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Blaming “Russian trolls” for anything is like blaming ghosts or evil spirits for something. There has never been any evidence whatsoever that Russians are engaged in any kind of organized trolling campaigns.

I have personally been involved in organized trolling campaigns, and had my own actions attributed to Russians. So I know personally, as a matter of fact, they just make this stuff up without any evidence at all.

It’s extremely dehumanizing to be told that you don’t actually exist, and your opinions are fake opinions created by Russians.

Furthermore: if your political movement is so weak that it gets destroyed by people making fun of you on the internet, you just suck.

This “Russian troll” stuff is always an excuse for even stricter censorship.

“纽约时报”:

Linda Sarsour awoke Jan. 23, 2017, logged onto the internet and felt sick.

The weekend before, she had stood in Washington at the head of the Women’s March, a mobilization against President Donald Trump that surpassed all expectations. Crowds had begun forming before dawn, and by the time she climbed up onto the stage, they extended farther than the eye could see.

You remember this, right?

It was the pussy hat thing.

(Just to be clear, those “no to war” signs expired when Joe Biden took control. Pussy hat people now #StandWithUkraine.)
(Just to be clear, those “no to war” signs expired when Joe Biden took control. Pussy hat people now #StandWithUkraine.)

It was also when Madonna said she was going to blow up the White House.

It was disgusting to the entire global population.

More than 4 million people around the United States had taken part, experts later estimated, placing it among the largest single-day protests in the nation’s history.

But then something shifted, seemingly overnight. What she saw on Twitter that Monday was a torrent of focused grievance that targeted her. In 15 years as an activist, largely advocating for the rights of Muslims, she had faced pushback, but this was of a different magnitude.

That morning, there were things going on that Sarsour could not imagine.

More than 4,000 miles away, organizations linked to the Russian government had assigned teams to the Women’s March. At desks in bland offices in St. Petersburg, copywriters were testing out social media messages critical of the Women’s March movement, adopting the personas of fictional Americans.

See – this is just totally made up, based on nothing. They are just lying.

They are telling you that Americans like pussy women and threats.

Do you remember that gross old bitch saying that she’s a “nasty woman”?

The New York Times is claiming without evidence that if you thought that was disgusting, you don’t even actually exist.

One message performed better with audiences than any other.

It singled out an element of the Women’s March that might, at first, have seemed like a detail: Among its four co-chairs was Sarsour, a Palestinian American activist whose hijab marked her as an observant Muslim.

Over the 18 months that followed, Russia’s troll factories and its military intelligence service put a sustained effort into discrediting the movement by circulating damning, often fabricated narratives around Sarsour.

One hundred and fifty-two different Russian accounts produced material about her. Public archives of Twitter accounts known to be Russian contain 2,642 tweets about Sarsour, many of which found large audiences, according to an analysis by Advance Democracy Inc., a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that conducts public-interest research and investigations.

That’s the only source they give for this totally outrageous claim that all Americans like that pussy hat/nasty woman/bomb the White House stuff. It’s a nonprofit with the same backers as the Times.

There is zero evidence presented – not even an explanation as to how they came to the conclusion the accounts were run by Russians. They just say it.

Many people know the story about how the Women’s March movement fractured, leaving lasting scars on the American left.

A fragile coalition to begin with, it headed into crisis over its co-chairs’ association with Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader, who is widely condemned for his antisemitic statements. When this surfaced, progressive groups distanced themselves from Sarsour and her fellow march co-chairs, Carmen Perez, Tamika Mallory and Bob Bland.

但也有一个故事没有被讲述,一个几年后才出现在学术研究中的故事,关于俄罗斯如何将自己置身于这一时刻。

What effect these intrusions had on American democracy is a question that will be with us for years. Already, social media was amplifying Americans’ political impulses, leaving behind a trail of damaged communities. Already, trust in institutions was declining, and rage was flaring up in public life. These things would have been true without Russian interference.

But to trace the Russian intrusions over the months that followed that first Women’s March is to witness a persistent effort to make all of them worse.

Okay, so. Let’s say these are all Russians. There is no evidence and it doesn’t make any sense. But say it is all Russians.

What message are they sending when they say that democracy can be completely destroyed by people posting on the internet? What does that even mean?

If democracy is that weak – and the only solution to “save democracy” is mass censorship of anyone who questions liberal agendas – it seems to me we should choose a different form of government.

The Times article goes on and on for 1,500 more words about this fantasy story. Never do they cite a specific source that you can check or explain the process that was used to figure out all these anonymous accounts were secret Russian agents. They don’t even bother to link to the “Advance Democracy” claims.

Of course, we’ve been through all this, gone over the fact that for years the Times has made these claims and consistently refused to give any evidence. But the fact the Times is coming out with new claims now suggests we’re going to see a new round of this “Russian troll” hysteria. They’ve already begun a new wave of censorship, and it looks like they’re going to include this stuff as an explanation for silencing more Americans.

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  1. Of course, any claim by Putin about shenanigans committed by Western Intelligence is preceded by the disclaimer “without presenting any evidence”.

    • 谢谢: anaccount
  2. anonymous[139]• 免责声明 说:

    I’ve met lots of people who’ve believed that Russian bots stole the election for Trump, that he was their agent and so on. That stuff isn’t even credible yet there they are. Now that Trump is out the blm-antifa rioters and looters as well as the hat marchers have dropped from view, no longer needed by the deep state for the time being. Millions and millions of stupid gullible people inhabit the US leading me to get jaded about it all and conclude that Americans are an inherently deficient bunch of fools, dodos headed for the cliff.

    • 回复: @Old Brown Fool
  3. Jim H 说:

    ‘The Times article goes on and on for 1,500 more words about this fantasy story.’ — Andrew Anglin

    Twenty years ago, Judith Miller’s fantastical claims about “Saddam’s WMDs” probably got ten times that many column inches … oh, and by the way, led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands.

    新的 纽约史莱姆 is a wholly discredited source. It really should be converted to tabloid format, spiced up with some celebrity gossip, alien abductions and big-busted bikini photos, and sold at supermarket checkouts for folks who need fresh birdcage liner.

    • 回复: @SteveK9
  4. @anonymous

    One needs a very large capacity for doublethink to thrive in the present atmosphere:

    Russian bots stole the election for Donald Trump; but elections are un-steal-able, trust us.

    Julian Assange is a criminal, but those FBI guys who really went overboard persecuting Donald supporters are officers.

    Hillary Clinton can store classified information on an unsecured server and that info may leak, she will not be prosecuted, but Donald Trump cannot have classified papers from his term as the President even in a secure locker

    Ukraine’s borders are divine and sacrosanct, America’s borders are accidents of history.

    Europeans cannot buy Putin’s gas because it encourages that war maniac, but Americans can buy Putin’s oil, so that there is a cap on his profits.

    We are going through a Fourth Industrial Revolution that will automate every human job, but Europe and America must import huge number of “workers” because their population is aging.

    Freedom of Expression is inalienable, but those deplorable should be punished for their rants…

  5. SteveK9 说:
    @Jim H

    It was during Judith Miller’s heyday that I stopped reading the Times … for good.

    • 回复: @Jim H
  6. @Old Brown Fool

    They don’t just pull this stuff out of their asses. There’s a method to it.

    谁/谁

    I believe it was Lenin who first articulated it. It’s not a secret, since it’s been over 100 years since Lenin announced it, and everyone is still “noticing” and shouting “hypocrite” and then continuing to listen.

    Goyim! Ya gotta love ’em.

    For example, here’s clip from a twenty-year old Jewish-produced “sitcom” where a Jew explains it all to a goy (identified as Scotch-Irish in another episode), laughing in his face, and the goy just asks, “duh.”

  7. After looking at the Judd speech ……..well let’s just say I can better understand her mother now.

  8. A fragile coalition to begin with, it headed into crisis over its co-chairs’ association with Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader, who is widely condemned for his antisemitic statements. When this surfaced, progressive groups distanced themselves from Sarsour and her fellow march co-chairs, Carmen Perez, Tamika Mallory and Bob Bland.

    The “Democrats” were told by their Jewish backers to nix this protest, which they promptly did. Sarsour and her associates won”t say this openly, so it’s left to a NYT hack to state the obvious, hidden away in a pile of verbal BS.

  9. RobinG 说:

    It’s extremely dehumanizing to be told that you don’t actually exist, and your opinions are fake opinions created by Russians.

    YES, YES, YES, this EXACTLY.

  10. @Old Brown Fool

    And of course, the topic of this article:

    >”Xenophobia” and “nativism” are VERY BAD and EVIL

    >Anyone who dissents from the party line simply MUST be some kind of furriner — or at least a furrin agent!

    To be a loyal supporter of The Narrative, one must have a short memory — and a high tolerance for cognitive dissonance.

  11. Jim H 说:
    @SteveK9

    ‘It was during Judith Miller’s heyday that I stopped reading the Times … for good.’ — SteveK9

    I owned a business at the time, and expensed about \$1,500 a year on general interest and specialized publications.

    Was so disgusted by the MSM and Bush’s war that I cancelled ALL of them. No longer spend even one penny on the stinking 卧推.

  12. Biff 说:

    What the peasants never seem to realize, or are never informed about is the fact that 99.9% of Russians don’t speak English .

    任何人?

    • 回复: @PJ London
  13. LeoXamine 说:

    Particularly outrageous was the obvious SVR RF troll journal account of a Russian General walking a Pussy-hatter home after a night out.
    He asked what she did: she said she worked at an abortion clinic where they served mainly black women. “Would that be the Crime Stoppers Clinic? he asked.
    “Sooo not funny. Tell your white pals to stop shooting black teens.”
    “It is serious. I heard some store owner shot an innocent black teen last week.. He was arrested.”
    “真?
    “Yes. He was charged with impersonating an officer.”
    When they arrived at her apartment door he asked for a kiss.
    “Not on a first date and in this case not on a last date either.”
    “Ok. Then could I borrow your hat for a few minutes?”

    • 回复: @PJ London
  14. PJ London 说:
    @Biff

    Languages of Russia :
    Main Russian
    Foreign 13–15% have foreign language knowledge[2][3]
    English (80% out of all foreign language speakers or 11% of the population)
    德文(16%)
    法语(4%)
    土耳其语 (2%)

    Every Russian I spoke to, spoke to me in English.
    Maybe because I don’t speak Russian.
    But don’t let the truth spoil a good (but silly) rant.

    If you want to be truthful, try “99.999% of Russians don’t give a shit what Americans and especially the NYT writes about Russia.”

  15. PJ London 说:
    @LeoXamine

    While working for a major retailer, the shrinkage (shoplifting and theft) was running at abut 1.5%. When a shoplifter was apprehended, it as always a case of “Do you want to charge them with shoplifting or impersonating a staff member?”

  16. @George Flintstone

    After looking at the Judd speech ……..well let’s just say I can better understand her mother now.

    All I could think was, “Poor Dario.”

  17. Bill 说:
    @Old Brown Fool

    Hillary Clinton can store classified information on an unsecured server and that info may leak, she will not be prosecuted, but Donald Trump cannot have classified papers from his term as the President even in a secure locker

    Back in the day, there was an internet commenter named “Sandy Berger’s Socks.” Don’t think I have seen him in a while.

  18. Mike Tre 说:
    @Old Brown Fool

    “We are going through a Fourth Industrial Revolution that will automate every human job,”

    The only people who believe this are people who never did an honest day’s work in their life.

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