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当你听到“泽连斯基的人正在杀害战俘”时,你会想“嗯,这并不特别令人惊讶。”

然后你读了这个故事。

RT:

美国周五拒绝推测在 Elenovka 的乌克兰囚犯遭到炮击,称它没有足够的信息来这样做。 与此同时,联合国秘书长安东尼奥·古特雷斯对这一事件表示担忧,但他的办公室表示,他缺乏第一手的报告来进一步置评。 数十名安置在综合体中的“亚速”战斗机在俄罗斯所说的美国向乌克兰提供的 HIMARS 火箭袭击中丧生。

“我们只是没有足够的信息来明智地谈论这些非常早期的报道,”美国国家安全委员会发言人约翰柯比告诉记者。

据五角大楼一位不愿透露姓名的高级官员称,美国人“没有任何确切的信息”关于发生的事情以及该设施是被乌克兰还是俄罗斯袭击的。

该设施位于顿涅茨克南部的 Elenovka,关押了数百名乌克兰囚犯——主要是 XNUMX 月在马里乌波尔抓获的“亚速”新纳粹民兵成员。 星期五凌晨 2 点左右被击中,当时囚犯还在睡觉。 截至周五下午,顿涅茨克人民共和国当局表示 53人遇难,75人受伤.

基辅政府指责俄罗斯对其盟友顿巴斯的领土发动袭击. 然而,DPR 当局展示了他们所说的火箭弹的碎片,HIMARS 是美国向乌克兰军方提供的火箭炮。

乌克兰当局也 确切地知道在哪里 “亚速”囚犯被关押,DPR 民兵发言人爱德华巴苏林告诉记者,指责基辅下令罢工。 他说,这次袭击旨在杀死“亚速”战士,他们开始就战争罪和乌克兰军队参与的其他暴行作证。

哇——多么奇怪的故事。

Zelensky 就像“我们需要杀死我们的战俘”,他的暴徒就像“我们正在努力,老板。” 然后他说,“不——我是说我们的战俘。”

你可以把这个场景想象成 Shredder 试图向 Rocksteady 和 Bebop 下达指令。

泽连斯基的暴徒就像是“好吧 waddaya 是什么意思,老板? 我们已经像你告诉我们的那样杀死战俘了!”

就像发生的每一件事一样,《卫报》声称俄罗斯轰炸了他们自己的战俘营。

这真的很神奇。 我的意思是,是的,你可以报告说泽连斯基说俄罗斯向他们自己的战俘营发射了火箭。 我认为你必须报告这一点。 但是那个标题和那条推文旨在让人们认为俄罗斯正在无缘无故地杀害战俘。

在你自己的战俘营发射火箭在许多不同的层面上都是疯狂的。 一方面,除非你疏散所有守卫,否则你就是在杀自己的人。 更重要的是,没有理由杀死战俘,除非您绝望并试图使反对派士气低落(这就是乌克兰在发布自己折磨战俘的视频时所做的)。 但这些是亚速战俘,他们本应为战争罪作证。 我们应该相信普京下令轰炸他自己的战俘营以杀死他们? 我的意思是,即使他想杀了他们,他也可以给他们下毒什么的,对吧? 谁要轰炸自己的战俘营?

纽约时报没有勇气说“俄罗斯正在向他们自己的战俘营发射 HIMARS!”

相反,在这个故事爆发的同一天,泰晤士报 发表了一篇愚蠢的专栏文章 来自“乌克兰”人民。

在乌克兰冲突期间,我已经注意到了很多——《卫报》将直接从乌克兰政府打印出来,而《纽约时报》要么试图找出一个角度,要么根本不报道这个故事(除了背面页次要提及)。

国务院与 NYT 和 WaPo 一起玩这个游戏。

WaPo 的标题没有《卫报》那么荒谬。

但其中包括一位所谓的国防部官员的奇怪引述。

那么,这里的主张到底是什么? 是故意打假旗,还是他们出于其他原因想杀死战俘,然后就决定责备乌克兰?

你几乎不得不说这是一个假旗计划,但它是如此奇怪,假旗解释如此复杂,即使你习惯相信媒体,这也很难接受。

弗兰奇:关于俄罗斯轰炸自己的战俘营的指控是我见过的任何新闻媒体报道过的最奇怪的事情之一。

但我想我们必须回到旧的度量标准:相信异性恋存在的人,并且存在诸如儿童异性恋之类的东西的人,会相信任何事情。 所以你可以告诉人们俄罗斯轰炸了自己的战俘营,里面挤满了据称已经达成交易以就战争罪作证的囚犯。

这太古怪了。

我会说:我认为这不会长期成为头条新闻。

(从重新发布 每日斯托默 经作者或代表的许可)
 
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  1. Anonymous[267]• 免责声明 说:

    乌克兰发射HIMARS在俄罗斯营地杀死自己的战俘,指责俄罗斯

    “Ukraine”. Are you a child?

    U.S. personnel are providing targeting guidance and are on the ground overseeing the HIMARS.

    Use your head with what’s going on here.

    • 同意: Alfred
    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @eudion2
    , @LeZ . . .
  2. Jon Doh 说:

    At least the HIM-ARse has been put to good use. The actual died in the wool nazis are an embarrassment to ‘the message’ of an innocent Ukraine just minding its own business.

    No tears shed here.

  3. Decoy 说:

    A lawyer in court will ask a simple question: Who gains? Don’t see how Russia has any gain with this incident but Ukraine as it frequently does is attempting to gain sympathy around the world. Along with sympathy comes truckloads of money and armament. These Azov prisoners were talking way too much and Kiev wanted them silenced.

  4. It is like Jew Trump would have A. Anglin and A. Jones shelled and killed.
    Jews do everything, even sacrifice their own – most Azovs are Jews, Russians and Georgians – if it is of advantage.

  5. anonymous[139]• 免责声明 说:

    US-UK ‘news’ are incredibly brazen it their lying, distortion and fabrication. It’s all fairy tale stories. Russian sources end up looking good in comparison. They give their point of view, which is to be expected, but hew much closer to the facts than western media which is just one big lie machine. Everything has gotten to be one big lie.

    • 同意: Dnought
  6. Andreas 说:

    The real story is that US/NATO was tricked. They were fed false information that those were Russian troops at that facility instead of their own POW’s. The Russians just let them shoot. Now US/NATO is red-faced with embarrassment. What a bunch of suckers and pukes.

    • 同意: Twodees Partain
    • 巨魔: mulga mumblebrain
    • 回复: @Levtraro
    , @Da's Reich
  7. 犹太人用他们的英美鬣狗轰炸了奥斯维辛40多次。

    • 谢谢: Alfred
    • 回复: @Carroll price
  8. The Jewkrainian militia attacked the POW camp with the help of the Jewmerican multiple launch rocket system HIMARS because of the “Azov men”giving evidence
    了解更多 https://military.pravda.ru/news/1731311-elenovka/
    RF says that the entire responsibility for the massacre at the pre-trial detention center near the village of Yelenovka is borne by the President of Ukraine. Vladimir Zelensky, his regime and Washington supporting them. Prviously the RF established that the HIMARS accuracy is based on the direct US control command. It is also established that Americans are operating the HIMARS. When the RF punishes Zelensky it shall not forget the hyenas of the Jewnighted States, because the “entire responsibility” lies with Israel, Vatica, Jewmerica, hyenas and slavehounds of Europe. So many heads are going to roll (including fake Trumps’).

  9. Everything on Twitter with a blueyellow rag on its profile is a nazi. Everything on Twitter which supports blueyellow ragwaggers is either a nazi or a fellow traveller of the nazis.

    • 同意: Avery
    • 回复: @Lurker
    , @Oldtradesman
  10. Anonymous[402]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    U.S. personnel are providing targeting guidance and are on the ground overseeing the HIMARS.

    Use your head with what’s going on here.

    Yep. Dead Azov terrorists trained and directed by U.S. special forces tell no tales. Frankly I’m surprised the Russian military and FSB is so unsaavy

    Here is Col. Doug Magregor talking about how the U.S. is behind the HIMARS targeting:

    • 谢谢: Alfred
  11. Bill H. 说:

    One thing I’m observing from this and the bridges which were hit three times by HIMARS is that these rockets are certainly not very destructive. They appear to be anti-personnel weapons at best, and rather than destroying ammo dumps, it seems likely that they merely trigger ammo dumps to destroy themselves.

    The destruction here is a lot of people killed, but the buildings are not destroyed, not really all that badly damaged, and it appears that even the bed frames can be easily reused.

    As to the bridges, after three “successful” HIMARS attacks the bridges are still standing, and all we see are some potholes in the decking. Admittedly some of those holes are rather large, but how long is it going to take to repair those bridges.

    These weapons look like a lot less than the “game changers” they were touted to be.

    • 回复: @Alfred
  12. @Decoy

    It’s trite but true: Dead men tell no tales. So the order went out from on high in Ukraine to kill their own men who were talking too much.

    Zelensky is the latest tinpot dictator American “leaders” are forcing the American taxpayer to underwrite.

    • 谢谢: CelestiaQuesta
    • 回复: @animalogic
  13. Emslander 说:

    You can be certain that a good number of the POW’s of the Azov Battalion knew from where their orders came. I’d guess that a couple of the officers were fingering Zelensky directly and maybe producing written or texted orders explicitly revealing that they were from the office of Chief Clown of Ukraine.

    • 回复: @CelestiaQuesta
  14. Wokechoke 说:

    Ukies Battle Police strikes at soldiers who dared to surrender. Ruthless stuff.

  15. Avery 说:
    @Anonymous

    { Frankly I’m surprised the Russian military and FSB is so unsaavy}

    How do you know what Russians/FSB know or don’t know?
    Obviously the Azov POWs were kept in Donbass Republic because Russia has no death penalty, but DPR does*. Donetsk Russians — who have been on the receiving end of the UkroNazi terror for 8 years — are no doubt thirsting for revenge. They may even have insisted to Putin that they want to keep them in DPR and deal with them themselves.

    Having said that, I think we can reasonably assume that the few high-value POWs (officers, commanders) have been moved to Russia for the FSB to extract all the info they can.

    __________________________________________________
    * the 2 British mercenaries were given the death penalty: hopefully they will be hanged and not exchanged.

    • 回复: @Jazman
  16. PJ London 说:

    All armies everywhere through all ages have shot or executed defectors as a deterrent to current troops not to do the same. Ukraine is no different.
    NATO-Ukraine order to Ukrainians. “You must fight to the death, if the Russians don’t kill you, then we will.”

    • 回复: @Drapetomaniac
  17. 弗兰奇:关于俄罗斯轰炸自己的战俘营的指控是我见过的任何新闻媒体报道过的最奇怪的事情之一。

    Apparently you have not come across some other “news” reports:

    Russia exchanged one of the spies it caught, then once he is in England, tried very desperately to poison him with a class of poisons no one has ever seen; and the father and daughter survived that, but no, we can’t let you talk to them for their safety. No, we won’t even telecast their statements.

    Donald Trump colluded with Russia to release some communications between Hillary Clinton and the DNC, but no, those emails do not matter, don’t look into that.

    WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed because planes hit them, and the aviation fuel, which is the lightest of all petroleum products and which evaporates very fast, soaked the entire building, and when the building caught fire (dont ask us how), it melted the steel in the construction. And yes, WTC 7 collapsed without any plane hitting it. And the plane that hit the Pentagon had no wings, err.., wings evaporated. No blackbox survived. But yes, thank God, we could get hold of the passport of one of the terrorists.

    • 回复: @Charflodles
  18. @Anonymous

    (With all respect due the Good Col., he has not the faintest idea
    what LNG is 😉 )
    As usual the fog of war has nothing on the fog of propaganda; I´m willing
    to believe the following:
    – The DPR militia would have the Azovniks disappearnik the moment the Russians
    turn their backs; that alone nixes any motive for 分期 something funny.
    – To the (((Keef junta))) the Azov are an embarrassment – not so much for being
    Natzees ™ as for being not-heroes (= not like the defenders of Snake Island 😛 ).
    It is well to remember the same Jews treated returning POWs after WWII
    as 叛徒.
    – Thanks … I hadn´t thought of that: Of course the Usual Suspects have
    迄今为止 the vestedest interest in silencing them (maybe even behind the
    backs of their “allies”? The facility was too bloody obviously a prison to have
    been a mistake).

    (Kharkow will fall like an overripe plum – (((Keef))) has no interest in it
    anyway, except to disrupt Russian logistics; the same for Dniepropetrowsk.
    Zaporozhye they have already written off or they wouldn´t keep attacking
    Energodar; 敖德萨 will be something else.
    Pelosi´s stunt is meant to deflect from her insider trading, and everybody
    will give thanks if the Chinese rid them of the reeking mummy but of course
    McGregor cannot say so.)

    • 谢谢: CelestiaQuesta
  19. Notsofast 说:

    the last tweet is quite telling….how much more “proof” is necessary to “prove” russia is a terrorist. this will be used by the congress of wonders in d.c. to label russia a state sponsor of terrorism. what passes for proof these days.

  20. eudion2 说:
    @Anonymous

    Isn’t it amazing how everyone who stands up to the United States commits pointless atrocities? Pay no attention to that My Lai behind the curtain!

  21. (((They))) who control the media, control the narrative.

    Another false flag scenario like so many taken place throughout history, coordinated by Six Eyes to protect the legacy of the six million Holocaust survivors, Magic Negroz, and GlobalHomo victims of “white Supremacists/domestic terrorists.

    This is nothing compared to releasing bio weapons, gene altering vaccines, and even less despicable than what’s coming when they drop one of many unaccounted for USSR era nukes and blame it on Russia.

    When you observe this as a planned operation (WEF/UN Agenda 2030) in the works for decades, it all makes sense.

  22. @Anonymous

    All uniforms are the same, it’s Velcro patches that are interchangeable. One day you’re USA, next you’re NATO, next you’re soldiers of fortune.
    You don’t need to be a CRT trained military strategist to figure that one out.

    • 同意: Notsofast
  23. @Emslander

    Russia will protect the remaining Azov Battalion POWs in a secret underground bunker for its upcoming war crimes trial.

  24. meamjojo 说:

    Russia shooting up the POW camp shows how depraved the country and its peoples are. This is why Russia must be completely defeated and Putin made to get down on his knees and grovel like the dog he is to the righteous power of the West.
    ========
    Fiona Hill: Putin’s Running Out of Time
    14年2022月XNUMX日
    https://dir.md/2022/07/14/putin-russia-war-fiona-hill-future-west-nato/?host=foreignpolicy.com

    I’m Ukraine’s Foreign Minister. Putin Must Be Stopped.
    29 年 2022 月 1 日,美国东部时间上午 00:XNUMX
    By Dmytro Kuleba (Mr. Kuleba is the foreign minister of Ukraine)
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/29/opinion/ukraine-russia-ceasefire.html

    实际上,俄罗斯经济正在崩溃
    关于制裁和商业撤退影响的九个神话被揭穿。

    作者:Jeffrey Sonnenfeld,管理实践领域的 Lester Crown 教授,耶鲁大学管理学院高级副院长,以及耶鲁大学首席执行官领导力研究所研究主任 Steven Tian。
    22 年 2022 月 5 日下午 56:XNUMX
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/22/russia-economy-sanctions-myths-ruble-business/

    • 哈哈: Dnought
    • 回复: @skrik
  25. @PJ London

    “All armies everywhere through all ages have shot or executed defectors as a deterrent to current troops not to do the same”

    That’s because government and those in government are Very Important and all things and people below are expendable.

    Who has access to well stocked government made nuke bomb shelters? The public that paid for them or the ones deserving a horrible death?

  26. Joe Paluka 说:

    By what I could reason from this agglomeration of twitters or tweets, the “western” news organs are saying that the Russians shelled their own camp filled with Ukrainian POW’s while the Russians claim that the Ukrainians did it. The Russian claim is more plausible than the Ukrainian one by any stretch of the imagination. My only question is: Why did the Russians keep the prisoners so close to the border, why not hundreds of miles from the border, out of the range of any missiles? My only guess is that the prisoners were kept near to the border to be such a tempting target for Zelinsky that he couldn’t resist it. He’s now where the Russians want him, an aggressor, a murderer, a butcher. They’ve already got enough on him to hang him 100 times.

    • 回复: @meamjojo
  27. BananaKilt 说:

    There were no missiles involved.

    Putin had them untied, then fought them all at the same time.

    Each met their death by his Chinisieum ice pick.

    • 哈哈: meamjojo
  28. The Russians were informed that their arty was going to shell the prison and removed their troops. Anglin simply can’t get past Russian lies and has become little more than the same type of man that worshipped Hitler in the 30s. Anglin is a willfully ignorant idiot, and that’s being charitable.

    • 巨魔: Kolya Krassotkin
  29. meamjojo 说:
    @Joe Paluka

    “The Russian claim is more plausible than the Ukrainian one by any stretch of the imagination”

    Depends. I can tell that your imagination is lacking. Also, your ability to understand the real world. You fit in perfectly here.

    • 巨魔: Lurker
    • 回复: @Joe Paluka
  30. Jazman 说:
    @Avery

    The 2 British mercenaries are executed couple days ago Dejan Beric confirmed to me

  31. @Anonymous

    Yes both you and Anon are likely correct about who is actually targeting and launching the HIMARS. The part about Russia being not saavy might not be completely accurate as the Azov prisoners were being held by the forces of the Donetsk Peoples’ Republic, not Russia. It would have been a smart move to transfer the Nazis to an actual Russian facility far to the east – well out of reach for anything situated in Country 404 operated by Murikan legionaries in Ukro-drag. I understand the Judeo-Nazi shitbirds were starting to sing too much for Uncle Schmuel’s comfort.

  32. 如果您认识敌人并了解自己,则无需担心一百场战斗的结果。 如果您认识自己而不是敌人,那么每获得一次胜利,您也会遭受失败。 如果您既不认识敌人也不认识自己,那么您将在每场战斗中屈服。

    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

    “School for Tyrants ― Klaus Schwab’s Young Global Leaders”

    • 回复: @Avery
  33. Lurker 说:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    By ‘nazis’ you mean of course (((Hollywood))) (((nazis))).

  34. @Old Brown Fool

    Don’t have the time to deal with everything you wrote, much of which depends on who you believe, but anybody can tell that jet fuel, which is essentially kerosene, is far from being the lightest of petroleum products. It won’t evaporate very fast at all, compared to gasoline or many other oil products.

    And if you’ve got a gas stove at home, straighten out a wire coat hanger and place it across the burner. You’ll see that steel doesn’t have to melt to lose its strength.

    • 回复: @Badger Down
  35. Translation of caption:

    In the psychotropic-damaged brain of Ukraine’s President the next picture of a bright future of his country appeared – picture 1.

    Western analysts think, that reality will be what is in picture 2.

    When it comes to shitposting to troll the 谎言帝国, Medvedev’s nowhere near the Edgelord level of Zhao Lijian (spokes苦力 for the Chinks’ Ministry of Foreign Affairs)… but he’s better at maps.

  36. Avery 说:
    @loner feral cat

    {you will conquer the planet}

    Look above: it’s a plane!. No, it’s a bird! No, it’s a Tu-95.

    Klaus Sh__tWab: Oh NO…….OMG!!! it’s a Christian Tsar Bomba
    We are TsarRoyally F____ed!!!.

  37. Murricka told them to kill them. Inconceivable otherwise.

    • 同意: Alfred, Notsofast
  38. @Jazman

    为此感谢上帝。

    If I was Russia I would have taken every prisoner to Siberia or the Urals and kept them alive until the war ends. Once Russia wins they can just try and sentence the prisoners to death and then get rid of them. If Russia lost they could again round up all their prisoners and kill them. So win or lose those Ukrainians POWs still die, that is what I would do.

    • 同意: Old Brown Fool
  39. Levtraro 说:
    @Andreas

    Your hypothesis seems to me the most plausible.

  40. Alfred 说:

    It takes many months to train soldiers to use the HIMARS. That means that NATO operates these weapons. The highly-accurate targeting information was provided by the USA. That can only mean that the West knowingly killed these Nazis.

    • 同意: Notsofast, mulga mumblebrain
  41. Alfred 说:
    @Bill H.

    这些武器看起来比它们被吹捧的“游戏规则改变者”要少得多。

    That has been a consistent theme. It is hard to know what will be the next “game changer”. A tactical nuke?

    俄罗斯在升级方面具有主导地位,因此继续这种把戏毫无意义。

    • 回复: @Notsofast
  42. j2 说:

    Ukraine has several reasons to expect that Ukraine POWs, especially the defenders of Mariupol, will not confess to any attrocities:
    1) if they did talk, there would already be a verified video of it in YouTube
    2) if they do, they face a death penalty from the separatists
    3) if they would do it under torture, they would have done so already in these months
    4) if they had agreed to talk, they would have been been transferred to a safe place out of the range of Ukraine HIMARS
    5) it is unlikely that any Mariupol defender who had done anything deserving a death penalty would give himself up as a POW, Ukraine sent several times a helicopter to bring ammunition, they would have escaped with a helicopter or fought to the end rather than surrender.
    Because of these reasons Ukraine had no reason to bomb a POW camp.

    Ukraine hardly bombed a POW camp by mistake as it targets high value objects: command posts and fuel, weapon and ammunition deposits, which are all easily identified from satellite and drone images, and Ukraine has informers in Donbass.

    Therefore the most logical explanation is that separatists blew the POW camp up. They had a good reason for it: Ukraine is expected to make a counteroffensive in August. Separatists want that this counteroffensive does not target Donbass separatist areas. Thus, they threaten to kill all POWs if Ukraine attacks them. They have over 1000 POWs. But as the international law forbids killing POWs, it was made so that they can claim that Ukraine bombed the camp. POWs were placed close enough that this would be technically possible.

    It is rather reasonable to think that the Wagner group made the explosion inside the building, as Ukraine intelligence claims. Was Wagner owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin? Was he half-Jewish as so many Unz commenters see a Jewish hand in this war?

    • 不同意: Badger Down
    • 哈哈: Alfred
  43. animalogic 说:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Yep — think you’ve picked it. Who benefited? Ukraine. 50 odd Ukrainian soldiers, with various degrees of commitment to Nazism & Ukraine, known to be making deals with Russia about “spilling the beans”….
    And – good god — why would Russia missile them, when they could just as easily quietly “dissappear” them ?
    Ukraine & their various dogs seem to becoming increasingly desperate.

    • 同意: Ann Nonny Mouse
  44. @j2

    You have to assume that the separatists think that the Ukraine would give up their counteroffensive because of some war prisioners. But the fact is that the Ukrainian government is ready to sacrifice the lives of large numbers of Ukrainians in oder to fight the war for land. They don’t even think of negotiations. Why would they care about some prisioners who wont fight anymore? The separatists don’t think that the Ukraine would give up their offensive because of some prisioners.

    Selensky has made a bet on war. For him the total destruction of the Ukraine ist better than a negotiated peace. The best result for him is total victory, which is very unlikely. The second best result is the total defeat and destruction of the Ukraine. He would come out as a hero of a tragedy. Ukrainians made the wrong choice when they elected Selensky.

    • 回复: @Avery
  45. Dumbo 说:

    I don’t really care about the Ukraine. I just wanted to say that Anglin’s dream (main feature story on his site right now) was actually pretty amazing and should be turned into a novel or a movie. (Some dreams appear amazing when we have them but do not translate well to a narrative, but this one had a coherent and pretty well-developed narrative with just a few random stuff thrown in).

  46. skrik 说:
    @meamjojo

    Because of Bernays, 暴行宣传 – the deliberate spreading of fabricated evils and inhuman war crimes – became the foundation of the Committee’s efforts

    https://www.bluemoonofshanghai.com/politics/3238/ via theSaker, thnx.

    That quote may well describe the bulk of meamjojo’s “Russia shooting up the POW camp” post. My bolding; I’d also add “说谎” [to emphasise ‘fabricated’] as a qualifier for “atrocity propaganda”.

  47. Hitch 说:
    @j2

    乌克兰几乎没有错误地轰炸战俘营,因为它的目标是高价值物体:指挥所和燃料、武器和弹药库,这些都可以从卫星和无人机图像中轻松识别

    LOL. Baghdad j2 spewing his lies once again. Ukraine has been using m777 and HIMARS to perform long range shelling of civilians all across Donbas and especially in Donetsk. Not only are they exposing their limited arsenal of specialized western equipment to counter battery fire, they are wasting the very limited inventory of high precision warheads murdering civilians. What an imbecile j2 is, he doesn’t even consider that these terrorism offensives waste precious leadership resources and smears the entire reputation of Ukraine and its laughable foreign run “military”.

    然后是这样的:

    乌克兰,尤其是泽连斯基,在这里公然犯下战争罪行,首先是使用集束弹药,其次是用集束弹药瞄准平民。 显然,乌克兰人正在烧毁隐喻的桥梁,因此乌克兰仅存的几名尊贵军官无法撤退。 这相当于乌克兰如何炸毁所有桥梁,以阻止其机械化部队从塞维罗顿涅茨克穿过顿涅茨河进入利希尚斯克。 数千人死亡,数千人被俘,大量重型装备(其中大部分是北约)被俘获。

    Importantly, at the Azot plant many foreign mercenaries were captured, and they face the death penalty and therefore are likely to spill the beans about CIA/Mossad/MI6 involvement. This is likely why this POW camp was targeted, to murder “squeelers” and to get a message to all the other foreign mercenaries and special forces to keep quiet. Since the Ukrainians do not have the kind of precise targeting data provided, it is also stands to reason that 6 eyes intelligence not only provided the guidance and the exact coordinates, but they also had transcripts of what information was being revealed to the Russians.

    • 回复: @nokangaroos
  48. @Charflodles

    And if you think about it, a gas stove is completely different from an open kerosene fire, and that wire coat hanger isn’t made of steel, and there are many different kinds of steel, and skyscraper steel has high standards. You’ll see that the idea that steel doesn’t have to melt to lose its strength is irrelevant, immaterial, and stupid.

    • 回复: @nokangaroos
  49. Passing By 说:
    @Decoy

    In the order of things, ‘whodunnit’ can only be determined after 崔波诺 is determined. Which doesn’t mean that the answer to ‘cui bono’ will infallibly lead you to the perpetrator b/c a crime doesn’t necessarily benefit its perpetrator. There are stupid criminals and there are criminals who commit crimes for the sheer pleasure of committing crimes.
    But when you see people trying to manufacture a ‘cui bono’ to fit their predetermined answer to ‘whodunnit’, you know that they are liars with an agenda.

  50. anon[805]• 免责声明 说:

    Zelensky’s CIA handlers will pretty much kill everybody as they lose. They’re putting the finishing touches on their Phoenix centers by dispatching psychos to torture and kill whoever:

    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/07/30/zelensky-militants-convicted-child-rape-torture-military/

    CIA’s plan is to make the defeated rump state ungovernable. That’s way easier than winning a war.

  51. Alfred 说:
    @j2

    Ukraine is expected to make a counteroffensive in August.

    This war started in February. The Ukrainians have been in retreat ever since. Kiev, Sumy and Kharkov were Russian feints to prevent reinforcements going to the Donbas.

    All attempts to launch a counteroffensive at Kherson have failed for obvious reasons – no shelter in steppe and the Russians control the skies.

    Soon the Donetsk province will be entirely liberated. The fortifications built with NATO help over 8 years will be overcome. In view of this, any discussion of a counteroffensive in this area is ridiculous. The Donetsk Republic have their won untouched fortifications.

    • 回复: @SteveK9
  52. Russia lets HIMARS operate to do things it is reluctant to do itself.

  53. Avery 说:
    @Uncommonground

    Your analysis is mostly on the money.
    Except where you write “Selensky” (Zelensky) or “Ukrainian government” should read US/NATO.

    Zelensky is a puppet. He decides nothing: his puppeteers do.
    And he is not tied to Ukraine in any way: reportedly his relatives, children (?) are in Israel, living comfortably in a multimillion dollar mansion.
    考虑一下。

    He is just a front man for the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization. (read US)
    You are absolutely right: NATO would rather Ukraine get destroyed than allow peace to take hold.

    NATO and the West in general, consider Slavs — including Ukrainians — subhuman.
    They couldn’t care less if a million Ukrainian soldiers get killed, as long as Russia bleeds and is weakened.

  54. Nat X 说:

    Yt vs yt, I’m rooting for both sides.
    ZZZ

  55. @Jazman

    Have their appeals already been reviewed? There is no confirmation of these executions in any media, Russian or Western. Or were they housed in the barracks that were blown up?

    • 回复: @Jazman
  56. Da's Reich 说:
    @Andreas

    Nah, those prisoners were propaganda gold for the Russians, and why would the Russians let their own personnel be killed.

  57. @j2

    I see that Zelensky has ordered the evacuation of Donbas areas still controlled by the Ukraine

    https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-zelenskyy-orders-mandatory-evacuation-of-donetsk-region-as-fighting-intensifies-12662533

    You will probably claim that this is in preparation for the Ukrainian counter-offensive. I calaim this is because Ukraine will completely leave these areas on orders of its American masters as they see that Ukraine cannot win and want to save as much of the Ukraine as they can. Probably the sanctions are hurting the West and they want some peaceful settlement before winter so they will offer to give up the Russian speaking parts of the country. We’ll see soon enough.

    • 回复: @j2
    , @Ed Case
  58. LeZ . . . 说:
    @Anonymous

    The Decline of The West . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war-67b

    更详细。 . .
    The Washington leadership and their vassals are a disaster and they have no longer any grasp of how to run The Show.

    As for that show’s Main Event, The US-NATO-UK Ukrainian Proxy War on Russia to weaken Russian and destroy its armed forces, over Ukrainian lives, Russia’s prevails as they dominate over everything The West has thrown at them.

    任务完成的时刻可能会让华盛顿的规划者意识到,他们所完成的是创建大欧亚大陆——俄罗斯、中国、伊朗、印度、许多斯坦国家和亚洲国家。 快得多了! 放弃美元是首要任务。

    资源、供应链能力、制造和军事力量来保护它免受剧透,特别是美国-北约-英国的劣质安排。

    许多虚假媒体报道这些地缘政治动向。

    Examined here in further depth . . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-war

    和这里 。 . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war

    和这里 。 . . https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war-b15

  59. SteveK9 说:

    A corollary to this action is that Ukraine is trying to forcibly ‘evacuate’ all citizens from cities and towns in Donets, because they realize those ‘Ukrainians’ are simply waiting for the Russians to take over, and they can start living again, as part of Russia.

    • 回复: @nokangaroos
  60. SteveK9 说:
    @Alfred

    This war started in February. The Ukrainians have been in retreat ever since. Kiev, Sumy and Kharkov were Russian feints to prevent reinforcements going to the Donbas.

    Actually no one believes that, even in Russia. Russia hoped that a lightning attack all over the country, but especially Kiev, would collapse the Ukrainian government, and the people would welcome the Russians as liberators. It did not work. So, they had to change the tactic, and pull all the forces they were using to Donbass. The initial plan was not crazy, and probably worth trying, but pretending that Russia is omniscient, makes it impossible to understand what is happening.

    I would guess that in part Russia has to make this up as they go along. Bucha was a big change. After withdrawing from the city (after the initial phase) people who had taken aid from Russia were rounded up, murdered, then put on display on the street in order to blame Russia. After that, Russia realized that if they turned over the ‘liberated’ territories in some sort of agreement, they could expect their supporters to be murdered.

    • 同意: nokangaroos, dimples
  61. Hitch 说:

    From Sailers Kherson thread:

    ((Theiner)) writes:

    Olenivka was NOT hit by a GMLRS rocket.
    russia used thermobaric a weapon to burn the POWs in their sleep. The fire damage to building and victims, and the missing impact crater and the lack of blast damage proves this.
    This was premeditated murder, just like at Katyn.

    LOL. If this building had been a thermobaric missile the shock waves would have been enormous and the corpses varporized. This ((Theiner)) hates Russians like only a Jewkrainian can, or like j2.

    • 回复: @Wokechoke
  62. Passing By 说:

    他们为什么这样做?

    1) b/c dead men don’t speak,
    2) b/c there are plenty of assholes in the West who’ll repeat that Russia did it,
    3) b/c there are plenty of imbeciles in the West who’ll believe that Russia did it.

  63. Jazman 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    They had to confess and that was it
    I do not know for Marocan guy but 2 Brits are executed

    there is no translation but Dejan is very well informed

    • 回复: @Joe Paluka
  64. Wokechoke 说:
    @Hitch

    The main difference between confirmed HIMARS strikes in Afghanistan and the Bridge ir indeed this prison building is the Warhead.

    The M270A1 IAC is fitted with two pods of six tube launchers while the M142 HIMARS has one single pod with six launcher tubes. In this configuration, both vehicles are able to fire different types of rockets including the M26 / M26A2Er Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions (DPICM), M30 GMLRS DPICM, M31 / M31A1 / m31A2 GMLRS Unitary (GMLRS-U), M30A1 / M30A2 GMLRS Alternative Warhead (GMLRS AW), XM404 /XM403 ER GMLRS RS Unitary and the M28A1 / M28A2 Low Cost Reduced Range Practice Rocket (LCRRPR).

    The M270A1 IAC and the M142 HIMARS are also able to fire missiles, in this configuration, the M270 can carry two missiles while the M142 only one. Both are able to fire ATACMS (Army Tactical Missile System) including a full family of surface-to-surface missiles as the MGM-140A Block 1 previously M39 that contains 950 M74 anti-personnel/anti-materiel (APAM) sub-munitions (4.275 kg) with a range of 80 130 km.

    Both Damage reports fit.

  65. Wokechoke 说:
    @j2

    This is crazy elaborate stuff.

  66. j2 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    “You will probably claim that this is in preparation for the Ukrainian counter-offensive. I calaim this is because Ukraine will completely leave these areas on orders of its American masters as they see that Ukraine cannot win and want to save as much of the Ukraine as they can. ”

    The Ukraine counteroffensive will be in the South, not first in Donbass. The reason for evacuation of Donbass now has no other goal than saving lives of Ukraine civilians as Russians continue bombing the area.

    My suggestion is a major attack from Vasylivka (just West from the lake) to Kalanchak and the Black Sea. This would cut supplies of Russian forces in Kherson area. If this is the idea, then it makes sense to blow the bridges on the river as most heavy weapons are already in the East side and the goal would be that Russian troops in the East cannot come to help the troops in the South. The reason for this attack is naturally to get out of the range of Russian artillery as fast as possible. Their artillery is 10 km from the front line and it does not move faster than a tank. Armored force can make this cut before Russians can respond, it is essentially steppe. Going fast around all population centers just to separate Russians into two parts.
    The East side of this cut would fall in a month in lack of ammunition, and the West side of this cut is unprotected as Russian fortifications in Zaporizhzhia assume an attack from the North. The West would fall probably up to Mariupol. As a consequence, Crime is threatened after the South is taken. Therefore Russia must withdraw much of the forces from Donbass to protect Crime (which is must protect as there is Sevastopol and it is annexed). Only after that happens, would the counteroffensive start in Donbass. It would succeed as Russians would have withdrawn much of their forces, so the North would fall. The result: borders of 24. Feb. before the end of the year.

    But I cannot guess their plan. Probably they have a better idea, this was just a civilian suggestion. It is of course possible they intend to attack first in Donbass, but that would very much surprise me and I expect that it would fail: Russia is too strong in Donbass now.

    I very much doubt Ukrainians make the war according to American instructions. So far the way they have fared the war seems Rus’ (i.e., similar to Russians): they do not use terrain well and earlier used artillery heavily (indeed, so heavily that they run out of ammunition). This is Ukraine variant of territorial defense and it must have surprised Americans (and Russians) that it has so far worked rather well.

  67. Joe Paluka 说:
    @meamjojo

    What’s your “real world” CNN, Salon, or Pornhub?

    • 哈哈: Hitch
  68. Joe Paluka 说:
    @Jazman

    They knew that risk that they were taking as mercenaries, a good chance of getting killed on the battlefield or getting shot for war crimes. They were probably misfits anyway, borderline mental patients, who had they not been killed by the Russians, would’ve gone back to Britain and caused nothing but trouble as the only thing that many of these types can do when they go back to society is a life of crime.

  69. @Hitch

    他们正在使用 PFM-1(= 首次使用空投杀伤人员地雷
    苏联人在阿富汗)针对顿涅茨克的集束弹药是
    显著; 我们的居民hasbara会再次声称“俄罗斯做到了”吗?
    (当然这是 MLRS 的设计目的之一,它是战争罪)
    Avdeevka 在砧板上,犹太人告诉 Ukies 他们
    不管他们喜不喜欢,死战……结局已经开始了。

    • 回复: @Hitch
  70. @Badger Down

    HSLA 梁钢在 600°C 左右失去强度,而且总是有
    当地的烟囱效应很容易超过它——这匹马 is 死。

    • 回复: @dimples
    , @Notsofast
  71. @SteveK9

    我不太明白的是他们的意图 do 与种族净化——
    把它们放在营地,用作人体盾牌还是直接送到垃圾填埋场?
    该措施本身是相当常见的标准作业程序,但它相当于一种认可
    民众亲俄,等待解放
    (军事摘要频道的迪马推测这是关于否认 60,000
    俄罗斯人的孩子…… 最友善的 解释是 (((他们))) 期待
    一些列宁格勒级别的围攻,并想要无用且可能充满敌意的食客
    不碍事)。

  72. dimples 说:
    @nokangaroos

    那你能解释一下WTC7吗? 阿拉斯加大学费尔班克斯分校想知道。 虽然我是信徒,但我总是对支持的事实感兴趣。

    https://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7

  73. 一如既往,这是 cui bono——谁受益?

    当然不是没有动机的俄罗斯。

    • 同意: Ann Nonny Mouse
  74. @Kurt Knispel

    如此多的谎言与全息恶作剧有关,直到它对据称发生的事情和时间感到困惑。 但从各方面来看,奥斯威辛集中营从未遭到轰炸,唯一的例外是盟军的一次轰炸无效,只袭击了工作营的一小块外围区域,铁路线和其他重要基础设施完好无损。

    在这个网站上有大量消息灵通的人,我建议你把你的废话带到别处。

    • 回复: @Kurt Knispel
  75. Notsofast 说:
    @nokangaroos

    why don’t you explain to us about the asbestos coating of the structural steel (that was going to have to be removed at a cost of over one billion dollars and allowed the exposure of the superstructure of the building ((which then allowed larry silverstein to lease the building for a song ((( which he then double insured))). six weeks later (and totally unrelated) 19 hijackers armed only with box cutters eluded the entire air defense systems of the united states (over a two hour period) and took out both towers of the trade center and a bullseye impact on the pentagon (destroying the office of the investigators of the missing 25 trillion dollars of pentagon money). yes, please explain this to us.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  76. @Carroll price

    哈斯巴拉婊子!

    去吧,操你自己,把盟军的文件,包括盟军的损害评估航空摄影,放到你的犹太狗屎里。

    • 哈哈: neutral
    • 回复: @Anon
  77. @dimples

    试探性地,由于地下室倒塌导致的级联破坏
    世贸中心1+2; 费尔班克斯可能是正确的,它不可能是火灾
    (正如 Notsofast #76 指出的那样,绝缘材料应该能够经受住火灾
    几个小时)。
    但如果没有断裂模式,这一切都是没有意义的猜测。

  78. Anon[185]• 免责声明 说:
    @Kurt Knispel

    Did you check the commenter’s comment history before throwing your nasty and despicable tantrum? Have some respect for Ron Unz, his website and the other commenters here or get lost!

    • 回复: @Kurt Knispel
  79. @dimples

    他们刚刚发现了一种拆除建筑物的新方法:放火烧掉家具。 我猜可以节省炸药。

  80. Hitch 说:

    My suggestion is a major attack from Vasylivka (just West from the lake) to Kalanchak and the Black Sea.

    j2 the virtual barrier guard wants more dead young Ukrainian men. The Ukrainian cannon fodder army under Nato command has not once been capable of mounting a combined force operation, and every one of their offensives has disintegrated into bloody masses of dead young Ukrainians. Yet j2 thinks they should attack! Just like the warmonger Stoltenberg or even Max Boot.

    This unmaintainable and unmanageable patchwork of Nato weapons systems hinders a well orchestrated combined forces operation. Aside from the very dubious reliability of these systems, there is the lack of interoperability from ostensibly standardized shells like 155m artillery shells to the Gepard 30mm Oerlikon cannon’s not functioning on Norwegian 3omm ammunition. Top that up with a potpourri of guidance and targeting systems. Then mix it with a decimated command structure saturated with multinational prima-donnas and besser-wissers. Of course knead that with undertrained and unmotivated Ukrainian cannon fodder forced into service and frog marched to the front.

    There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that Ukraine will be able to launch a successful major offensive using its own army. All those Nato stand off weapons are good for in this situation is terrorizing civilians and escalating the conflict. Of course this is precisely what Nato “leadership” wants, and that is all fine by the virtual barrier guard j2.

    • 回复: @Hitch
  81. Hitch 说:
    @nokangaroos

    这是一个集群。 请注意用于伪装的不同颜色取决于环境。

    我们必须考虑到,这也证明乌克兰和/或北约确实在寻找任何可以轰炸俄罗斯民族的东西。 当然,这使它不亚于战争罪。

    当conversos和他们的西班牙炮灰开始入侵和对阿兹特克人进行种族灭绝时,犹太人科尔特斯就烧毁了大帆船。 泽林斯基只是数千年来残暴和种族灭绝的犹太人的又一个例子,他们不仅对他们的敌人,而且对表面上是他们自己士兵的人发动焦土战争。

    • 同意: nokangaroos, Kolya Krassotkin
  82. Ed Case 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    They’ll take the men for cannon fodder, then separate the women from the children, who will disappear.

  83. Hitch 说:
    @Hitch

    Norway-delivered Gepard SPAAG 35mm shells are useless in Ukraine

    Ukraine received Norwegian-made ammunition some time ago to be used by the German-made Gepard SPAAG, also delivered in Ukraine. The reason: Germany did not have 35mm ammunition available for its Gepard SPAAGs and was forced to look abroad. Berlin even held talks with countries that have purchased this air defense system, such as Qatar and Brazil. Norway responded by saying it could produce them.

    Now it turns out that the Norwegian ammunition already delivered to Ukraine is not recognized by the weapon system and it cannot fire them. Sources claim that joint tests of Gepard SPAAG ammunition and anti-aircraft self-propelled guns took place in Germany. According to them, new tests will be conducted in August after the ammunition is upgraded.


    German PzH 2000s in Ukraine wear out: error message after heavy fire

    In the middle of the week, according to Spiegel, Kyiv informed the Defense Ministry in Berlin that some of the seven Panzerhaubitze 2000 guns delivered in late June were showing error messages after intense shelling of Russian positions, indicating that several howitzers they need repair.

    The Bundeswehr suggests that the problems are related to the high rate of fire with which the Ukrainian armed forces use the guns in the fight against the Russian invaders. As a result, the howitzer’s loading mechanism is subjected to enormous stress.

    • 回复: @j2
    , @nokangaroos
  84. HeebHunter 说:
    @j2

    Can you imagine a shill working for muttmerica/NATO/EU still typing these tripes out in winter?

    I certainly can! Double down till your fingers freeze to hell and back!

  85. j2 说:
    @Hitch

    “The Bundeswehr suggests that the problems are related to the high rate of fire with which the Ukrainian armed forces use the guns in the fight against the Russian invaders. As a result, the howitzer’s loading mechanism is subjected to enormous stress. ”

    This is what I mean that Ukraine fares war in Rus’ way and not according to NATO/American instructions. Russians use artillery too heavily, so do Ukrainians. It is not the correct way and there are no NATO people using these weapons or advising how to use them, it is the Ukraine way, not good.

    • 回复: @Hitch
    , @nokangaroos
  86. @Hitch

    That they have managed to ruin the PzH 2000 in record time is …
    有趣 ????
    对于 猎豹 the Swiss – makers of the gun – have balked at supplying ammo;
    the Austrians have offered of theirs – the Z-Fla is basically the same gun – but only
    with conventional double fuse (impact/self-destruction) – little improvement.
    And now Keef has been promised 海狸 tracked bridgelayers.
    All these toys only make sense in the context of a massive armored thrust –
    which in turn necessitates fire and air superiority (so far the mechanized and
    air assault brigades have proven good at sitting in holes, sniping and mortaring
    civilians); and 什么 exactly would they attack? Destroyed cities are the great
    equalizer – it took the Soviets seven (!) armies to dig out the Sixth (starving and
    without resupply) at Stalingrad.
    It makes one wonder – is Ze snorting coke while perusing gunmakers´promo materials
    (和 壮志凌云 in a loop), knowing that he isn´t going to pay for it?
    Are his suppliers just going through the motions to get the Murkans off their asses
    and make their defense industries happy?

    什么是 is noticeable is that Keef keeps getting shriller while the Ruskies
    radiate cold confidence – I take that as a “good” sign.

    • 同意: Hitch
  87. Hitch 说:
    @j2

    there are no NATO people using these weapons or advising how to use them

    LOL. Why can’t you stop blaming Russians for this Ukrainian clown show for just two seconds? Most likely it was ignorant SAS or CIA agents directing the Ukrainian cannon fodder to keep firing those German PzH 2000’s at Russian civilians without a break hour after hour. Zelensky murdered 50 of his prized Azov battalion war criminals while sleeping in their POW bunks in order to keep the them from exposing the truth about Nato special forces and Nato “instructors” taking part in all these “battles”.

    It is totally obvious that Ukraine cannot take back lost territory, let alone “win” this war, short of using tactical nuclear weapons, even with never ending Nato support and ulimited EU+US+UK free money. Ukraine and Nato have only one path forward short of capitulation, and that is escalation. So they are throwing everything that they have against the Russian civilians in the hope that Putin will finally crack and retaliate with tactical nukes. Of course this is exactly what Nato and Zelensky the Jew want, for then they can start shooting their own Nato tactical nukes back in the hope that Putin finally folds and pleas for mercy to his own people. That millions of Ukrainians will die too is of no concern to Soltenberg, Nuland, Biden, Stolz, Macron or even you, j2.

    • 回复: @j2
    , @Commentator Mike
  88. No amount of American and European dick-sucking by Zelensky, Arestovych and Kubela will compensate for this absurd HIMARS strike on their own pet Neonazis.

    Zelensky has swallowed so much US/NATO cum that he has gone stark raving mad, just like old Adolf in his last days in his bunker. The pressure has broken his cocaine-addled mind and he’ll be either be a rich refugee in London or eliminated by his own people(with US/NATO approval) within 6 months.

    Zelensky gambled wrong from the start, unwilling to believe Russia would invade, even when his US handlers warned him, he repeatedly refused to even consider it, and now he has destroyed his own country, he has given Ukraine his HIV/AIDS.

    From saying he would negotiate with Russia for peace, to going down on his knees to suck deeply on Nazi dick, betraying his whole country, selling Ukraine’s people to US/NATO as cannon fodder, then transferring his humiliation and rage onto Russia with endless attacks and provocations, this VOGUE article looks likely to be his epitaph.

    Pitiful and sad.

    • 同意: Kolya Krassotkin
    • 回复: @Avery
  89. Hitch 说:

    The youth of Ukraine are being sacrificed for the benefit of Monsanto, BlackRock and Vanguard. Well played, j2.

    • 回复: @Hitch
  90. Hitch 说:
    @Hitch

    Another report claiming that it is only 17 million hectares or 28% of “arable land”:

    Americans bought a third of Ukraine’s arable land

    Since the new law on the sale of agricultural land entered into force exactly one year ago in Ukraine, until today three large multinational consortia with American capital have bought almost a third of Ukrainian arable land. The “Australian National Review” stated that those three companies bought 17 of the 62 million hectares of agricultural land, that is, 28 percent of the total arable land of the former Ukraine. The entire area of ​​Ukraine is 603.500 square kilometers (before the special Russian military intervention), and 170.000 square kilometers were purchased.
    Customers are “Cargill”, “Dupont” and “Monsanto” (which is formally a German-Australian company, but with American capital). Among the most important shareholders of these companies are “Vangard”, “Blackrock” and “Blackstone”. At the same time, “Blackrock” is a fund that manages assets of 10 trillion dollars, “Vangard” with six, and “Blackstone” with 0,9 trillion dollars.

    I am not surprised that the report failed to mention Bill Gates and how his long, dirty fingers are almost certainly involved in this plundering of Ukraine.

    • 回复: @nokangaroos
  91. Dr. Rock 说:

    Ain’t War Hell!?

    Next up, Putin will assassinate himself, so he can blame it on Ukraine, and finally find favor with the “International Community”.

    Back in my more Libertarian Days, legalizing weed seemed okay enough, but with the modern state of journalism, perhaps we acted too hastily, because dat chronic be messin’ wit people’s noggins!

    I can hardly wait to see what comes next…

  92. Avery 说:
    @GreatSocialist

    {Zelensky gambled wrong from the start, unwilling to believe Russia would invade, even when his US handlers warned him, he repeatedly refused to even consider it, and now he has destroyed his own country, }

    我不同意。

    It worked out just exactly as his NATO/US puppeteers planned.
    NATO/US desperately wanted, they goaded Putin to invade.
    Putin & Co tried for 8 years or so to avoid invading, to find some kind of compromise.
    But there reached a point in the goading that Kremlin had to invade today: otherwise it would be much worse tomorrow.

    US Neocondom wanted this war — for a whole bunch of reason.

    They even told their puppet Zelensky to publicly announce that Ukraine will seek nukes.
    (they knew very well it would trigger Putin)
    And — if we believe published info by non-MSM analysts — UkroNazis were massing troops to invade Donbas for a final, knockout blow.

    So, there was no gamble on Zelensky’s part: he had and has no say in what to do or not do next in Ukraine.

    Of course, things most likely will NOT turn out exactly the way US/NATO expected.
    But in either case, Anglo-Americans win.
    EU may get screwed, but that was also part of the Anglo-American plan.
    Win-Win for US&UK (Anglosphere)

    And any numbers of killed or murdered Christian Slavs — Rus or Uki — is icing on the cake. Sad, sad, sad for long suffering Slavic peoples.

    • 同意: acementhead
    • 回复: @nokangaroos
  93. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Everything on Twitter which supports blueyellow ragwaggers is either a nazi or a fellow traveller of the nazis.

    You mean those Live Action Role Players supported by Jewry who are fighting for a Jewish president and his cesspit of Globohomo propaganda and Western money laundering we call “The Ukraine”?

  94. @j2

    Russians and Ukrainians in essence still think in tank rider battaillons
    backed by Katyushas and Stormowiks – an exceedingly potent mix;
    guided munitions have put an unexpectedly positive check on it – not quite
    on a par with the sociological chasm caused by the machine gun, but still.
    The Ruskies are not famed for being quick learners but they have put the
    rasputitza to good use – even if for a fallback to WWI:
    Heavy fire prep -> cross open ground -> once inside built-up area, middle-aged Ukies
    forcibly rounded up in the market square are no match for Chechen cutthroats.
    I do not quite get the Ukies – all these toys are worthless; as Wielgus´source
    (Ukie artillery) noted some time ago the biggest difference for the buck would
    probably be Harops (two problems: The Austrians won´t export the engines and
    the Izzies know whatever they do to the Ruskies in the Ukraine the Ruskies
    will do to them – in 叙利亚; besides, bye-bye diamonds and oil).

    Indeed I am surprised the Russians rely so on drones.

  95. j2 说:
    @Hitch

    “Why can’t you stop blaming Russians for this Ukrainian clown show for just two seconds? ”

    Why can’t you stop blaming Ukrainians and Americans for this war? Putin attacked Ukraine, Ukraine or NATO did not attack Russia. And as for a clown, there is Zelensky the Small, but he does not try to be Peter the Great. Vladimir the Short does try to be Peter the Great, but has to use shoes with extra high heels, that is a bit comical. Just take this war as a war between two Rus’ countries, nothing personal.

    • 回复: @Hitch
  96. @Hitch

    I saw a version with 60% since 2014. It explains a lot – just not what
    the Ukrainians are fighting for; their spirit is worthy of a better cause.

    • 回复: @Hitch
  97. Hitch 说:
    @j2

    “Zelensky the small” and his Judeo-sodomite army vs. Vladimir the Great. That about sums it up. You chose wisely j2, may the monkey pox be with you.

  98. Truly beautiful pictures.

    I’d give my left nut to see the majority of the Biden Admin, most of the US Congress and a good portion of the bloated Federal Bureaucracy suffer the same fate.

    他妈的他们。

  99. Hitch 说:
    @nokangaroos

    If it was just greedy Jews buying all the farmland it wouldn’t be that bad, but big, greedy Jewish Pharma making bioweapons at biolabs and big Jewish AG making toxic GMO “food” really make it all far more sinister, even satanic.

  100. @Anon

    “Have some respect” for lies, manipulations and insults like yours? Why dont you just mind your own business?! The whore came at me just like you shit cock sucker. Exactly the “respect” you cheat do not show you are asking me to serve after you abused me (and truth). Fuck you! (with an iron bar)

  101. @Hitch

    Andrei Martyanov explains here why the Ukrainian counter-offensive most probably will not succeed.

    https://thesaker.is/andrei-martyanov-going-tactical-and-realist/

    j2 used to be a reasonably critical commenter before leaving UR but has now reappeared solely on the Ukrainian threads uncritically promoting Western propaganda and becoming a “virtual barrier guard” as you say. Sad transformation. Same like peterAUS. Strange that both left the UR some time ago only to reappear in this new role on a single issue.

    • 回复: @Hitch
  102. Hitch 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    I’ll come right out and say it: I don’t really like Andrei Martyanov. A lot of it is due to his hard to understand accent, but I find his demeanor arrogant and off-putting.

    Supposedly “intelligent” people are the most vulnerable to Mass Formation Psychosis. As I look back over the last few decades, I can see how the creation of these “mass formations” has been repeated over and over again.

    Apparently, some people are more vulnerable to certain Mass Formations but may escape others. It could be related to environmental factors like EM emissions or unpure food and water, by I suspect that it has to do with established thought patterns. Tavistock, the Frankfurt School, and other mind control operations like Soros NGO’s have certainly spent billions in the higher education systems and “think tanks” that they control figuring out precisely how to manipulate the minds of the easier targets.

    We have to recognize that anyone who voluntarily serves in the military is mentally deficient or even retarded. PeterAus and j2 are both officers in military organizations that depend on their own mass formations for their very existence.

    I am reminded of Chinese saying from the novel Taipan: Never use good steel to make nails.

  103. Hitch 说:

    Go to hell, Zelinsky

  104. Hitch 说:

    This meme encapsulates the entire SMO in Ukraine to date:

    • 回复: @GeneralRipper
  105. Hitch 说:

    OMFG, the memes won’t stop. This one is even better…

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