If we are opening with videos. This explains, in a humorous way, why major studio films are struggling.

Warning: NSFW Language

Sorry if this is a dupe. I do not always remember what has been previously shared.

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Iraqi Information Minister reviews:

The Occult in National Socialism;
the Symbolic, Scientific, and Magical Influences on the Third Reich;
Stephen Flowers Inner Tradition Press 2022.

529 pages!

This is a new and improved version of Nicholas Goodrick Clarke’s two books on this subject. If you read those and figured the topic was fully covered, you may be surprised. If nothing else, Flowers shows that the topic is large, the documentation to be explored is mountainous, and there is plenty of room for second and even more opinions. Flowers gets bogged down very little and I blasted through this sucker in four days. Lots of information new to me and great pictures.

I will stuff the pictures under the [more].

Summary of his argument: Goodrick Clarke’s books are really great but they are hampered by his ideology, with him being a member of the (cultural marxist) academic cult and the first book being a smoothed-out version of a PhD thesis which had to be tailored to a specific (and stupid) audience. Yes there were magical workings involved in National Socialist Hitler Germany. 99% of them are the same thing American et al advertisers and rulers are using right now. The idea that there is a German Paganism ideology that it is based on is: 1. wrong; and 2. a fabrication of the post 1945 Christian churches in Germany trying to say “It wasn’t us! we didn’t have anything to do with it.”

This last point is the one thing Flowers gets bogged down inside of. It should suffice to most readers that the Roman Catholic church and the National Socialist Workers Party got along just splendid the entire time the NS’s were in power.

In this vein he goes to great lengths to show the sizeable work of Himmler’s Ahnenerbe never amounted to more than a sideshow and had little consequence in things like invading the neighbors and murdering civilians.

In his 2015 history of the SS, Bastian Hein astutely cites two major reasons as to why Himmler’s experiments in neopaganism generally failed: (1) Himmler himself was continually vacillating and in doubt about his own religious life or beliefs, and so presented no strong and unified message to his men and (2) Himmler and Rosenberg were undermined and not supported from above, as the Fuhrer publicly and privately ridiculed the effort and often intervened on the behalf of traditional church interests for larger political reasons. p. 278

(The percentage numbers of German Pagans never amounted to a large amount.)

The other big point that he hammers on is that the culture of NS Germany was not based on an ancestral German ethic nearly as much as it was patterned after ancient Rome. See above point about the brotherly relation between the Party and the RC Church.

Images after the [more]: Wewelsberg, Saschenhain, Exernstein, MacKinder’s world island cartoon map,

In terms of style he had a noteworthy sentence which might be the most beautiful left-hand compliment I have ever read.

Heather Pringle’s 2008 work titled The Master Plan [long paragraph deleted] . . . Despite these shortcomings the book is a solid source for what the author has handpicked to discuss. p. 345

There are a few errors that I saw. Most of these are trivial. The biggest problem that I see is that Professor Flowers is lacking in enough self-awareness to see that he also is a member of the academic cult. This shows up all over the place. Nevertheless the work is really tight in terms of sources and accurate citations and until shown otherwise I am pretty sure that he doesn’t just make stuff up.

In 2022 on such a topic this is most unusual.

To follow up on the Solutrean hypothesis for the peopling of North America that S started discussing on the previous thread: I never really dug much deeper than the superficial and politically correct reports about the Kennewick man and the Anzik-1 skeleton being ancestral to the modern Native American populations. Despite their distinctive phenotypic features, the genetics seemed not distinctive enough to put these “phenotypic outliers” in another genetic lineage.

But given that I am such a nerd and a geek about the population genetics (at an amateur level), I wanted to look into what was written about the Solutrean genetics. And then I found this:

Consistent with our recent finding of a close relationship between South Pacific populations and Denisovans or Neanderthals who were archaic Africans with Eurasian admixtures, the ∼9500 year old Kennewick Man skeleton with Australo-Melanesian affinity from North America was about equally related to Europeans and Africans, least related to East Asians among present-day people, and most related to the ∼42000 year old Neanderthal Mezmaiskaya-2 from Adygea Russia among ancient Eurasian DNAs. The ∼12700 year old Anzick-1 of the Clovis culture was most related to the ∼18720 year old El Miron of the Magdalenian culture in Spain among ancient DNAs. Amerindian mtDNA haplotypes, unlike their Eurasian sister haplotypes, share informative SNPs with Australo-Melanesians, Africans, or Neanderthals. These results suggest a unifying account of informative findings on the settlement of the Americas.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/130989v3

Which is absolutely amazing…

If the authors wouldn’t have been Chinese scientists, it would have been either acclaimed or most probably screechingly decried with much gnashing of teeth. But given the ethnic origin of the authors, it seems to have past unnoticed or most probably have been ignored by the “polically correct” academic researchers.

The paper didn’t make it further than bioArXive, and I think I know a couple of reasons why.

Chinese official historiography describes the Great Steppe impact on the Han accross millenia

This is a sensitive topic and subjective to political correctness. The Chinese after all, invented the Pravda

also known as the Orthodox Histories (Chinese: 正史; pinyin: Zhèngshǐ), are the Chinese official dynastic histories covering from the earliest dynasty in 3000 BC to the Ming dynasty in the 17th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-Four_Histories

One of the techniques is to emphasize the continuity of Chinese dynasties but obfuscate the continuity of Tatar dynasties by using different cognates:

– Altan is the same word as Aisin-Gioro, the clan name of Qing emperors. Same for the word Khitan. Golden Horde, etc.

– Xiongnu is the same word as Aisin-Gioro Xuanye, the Kangxi Emperor. And the Yellow Emperor’s given name Xuānyuán

Another technique is the actual names of Tatar dynasties are obfuscated:

– 元 Yuan is actually Dai Ön Yeqe Mongɣul Ulus meaning “Great Yuan – Great Mongol State”
– 清 Qing is actually Daicing gurun “warrior state”

The only ever female emperor Wu Zetian (a Han-Xianbei who’s depicted with blue eyes), was a consort of the two previous emperors, son and father, this would considered blasphemous in Han (or Christian) culture but perfectly acceptable by Eurasian nomads.

North Eurasian cultures share a common reverence for bears, which is a common surname:

Xiong, Bernard, Arthur, Ursula, Urs, Ursicinus, Orsolya, Björn, Nedved, Medvedev, and Otso.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_brown_bear#Cultural_depictions

The mythical progenitor of China, Yellow Emperor, is said to have led the tribe 有熊 Yǒu Xíong “Possessor of Bears”. So he was very likely some kind of proto-Genghis Khan,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor#Xuanyuan_and_Youxiong

the nomadic hordes were in fact meritocratic confederations in which the “alien” or foreign ethnic groups might climb to the top.

Very much so. The normie take is:

Japanese: China had lost its character through the Tatar invasion, thus we are the authentic descendant of Classical Chinese civilization

Chinese: the barbarians had accepted our culture, but the Han Chinese dynasties Song and Ming are truly authentic and its traditions should be restored

Red Pill take: Mongol Yuan didn’t institute horrible physical punishments on Confucian scholars, Ming did. Song was culturally accomplished for its time but rife with internal bureaucratic infighting, corruption, and military ineptness.

Han Chinese perform at its best when ruled or have its institution set by foreign races– HK, Singapore, Taiwan.

And Mongols Manchus gave Han equal status when demonstrated to perform with martial ethos,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Köke_Temür
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kong_Youde

The future of America will either be 19th century Germany or East Africa. Or both.

Some things never change —

Splendidly excellent stuff –

The Wishful Theory of ‘Strategic Russian Defeat
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-10-19/strategic-russian-defeat-is-not-a-viable-solution-to-the-war-in-ukraine

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Some feedback from elsewhere:

I’m seeing more and more ‘anal-y-ses’ & ‘opinions’ in the PPNN about the Ukraine that are even more vague than normal. You are left with the impression that the author wants to say something but the author themselves have not thought through what it is they even want to say. Technically it is ‘content’ but it provides nothing new, either in insight, information or anything else. I guess what we can say is that now that it is clear to most of these idiots that the Ukraine will not win, they are forced in to unfamiliar territory that they have not considered and are lost in the woods. I expect more of this thrashing about to come.

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Also, as soon as I got to this sentence, I stopped reading:

“Fiona Hill, one of the most respected Russia experts in the US and a former Russia guru in the Trump administration, offered a less radical version of the same argument in a recent interview with Politico.”

If Bershidsky rates Hill as ‘one of the most respected Russia experts’, that’s all I need to know. Fiona Hill could find a samovar in the space where she left her car when she was ready to go home, and she would only mutter peevishly, “What’s this big stupid brass car doing here, my key won’t fit it”. She is a simpleton in every derogatory sense of the word, I would have thought Bershidsky was too intelligent to fall for her mad ravings. Perhaps his hatred for Putin has overcome his judgement.

The idea that there is a German Paganism ideology that it is based on is: 1. wrong; and 2. a fabrication of the post 1945 Christian churches in Germany trying to say “It wasn’t us! we didn’t have anything to do with it.

I can speculate as to why this point might need a lot of arguing; churches can always say ‘We always believed God was a Jew and we always taught that everyone should worship this Semite’ to point to tensions between Nazi ideology and Christianity.

The other big point that he hammers on is that the culture of NS Germany was not based on an ancestral German ethic nearly as much as it was patterned after ancient Rome. See above point about the brotherly relation between the Party and the RC Church.

The point that the main inspiration for the Catholic Church came from Ancient Rome and not the Middle East might require lengthy arguments. Is there an underlying argument that Semitic and Judeo-Hellenic influences were stronger in Nazism than the ancestral German ethic?

Yiddish speakers have their roots in the Pale.

Also Mormons aren’t counted as an ethnicity but their TFR is above 2.00 (around 3.00 IIRC).

Have you ever had the possibility to read Lev Gumilyov’s studies on the history of the Great Steppe nomads?

And as a present to thank you for you kind explanation on the Han Chinese take on history of the Greater Chinese Realm (an expression I have just coined ad hoc) please have a look at this when you have some time to spend on long gone mighty tribes heritage:

https://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/museums/shm/shmnoinula.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noin-Ula_burial_site

https://indo-european.eu/2020/08/xiongnu-ancestry-connects-huns-avars-to-scytho-siberians/

I would one day perhaps write about my own pet theories on the possible influence of Huns on the “historical coming out” of the Slav from “the Pripyat’ closet”. Of course, nothing scientific or proven and even less so official…

🙂

I can speculate as to why this point might need a lot of arguing; churches can always say ‘We always believed God was a Jew and we always taught that everyone should worship this Semite’ to point to tensions between Nazi ideology and Christianity.

The most virulent anti-semitic-Christian-Nazis (there were 70 million diverse Germans) had an Aryan Jesus.

Is there an underlying argument that Semitic and Judeo-Hellenic influences were stronger in Nazism than the ancestral German ethic?

The book is 500pp +.

This exact argument is the largest element in it, or at least very close to the largest element in it. This is a subjective call but in my view that is one heck of a lot of arguing. There is an endlessly fascinating amount of material here and I could have gotten through it in one sitting but for the tedious polemical tone.

The Nazi salute is a Roman salute. Does anybody know what the old Norskis did for saluting?

Haven't known too many, so my sampling might be biased, but I've found them to be very congenial.

I've wondered whether this might be some form of self-selection. I'm sure something goes into it in a general, but it could be the ones that move East are really outgoing or something.

But I've also wondered if it is the short genetic distance. They tend to be of British and Irish heritage. (Though, of course, I don't uniformly like all such people.)

Also M——s aren’t counted as an ethnicity but their TFR is above 2.00 (around 3.00 IIRC).

I hesitate to discuss the M religion in this thread again but that low figure has always appeared very iffy to me. I’m pretty sure it’s higher among the practicing ones.

old Norskis did for saluting

По рукам!

It means let’s hit/shake hands! It also means deal!

This expression in Russian language is quite old.

Perhaps when they shook hands, they also hailed each other…

Major film studios are only struggling with American audiences, who are low IQ, white, old, fat, and racist. Cecil B. DeMille and the rest of the Hollywood shlomos could’ve only imagined the Chinese market in their wildest dreams. It has never been a better time to make films. Those films just need to be on code with the CCP, which the tribe struggles with at times.

They will learn.
Or they will be replaced.
Just like whitey.

In retrospect it looks like the ancestral German ethic was mostly aspirational. The much deeper, habitual, institutional culture was not changed. It takes much longer than even 2-3 generations. There is a stickiness to the Middle-East-Hellenes-Rome derived culture that many have underestimated.

Actually by far the most successful has been the American onslaught that uses primarily comfort and ease. The aspirational stuff has to imposed either by force or with discipline – it is a tough sell. Take two 5-year olds and offer candy vs. almost anything else, the overwhelming choice is the more pleasant, easier one. People crave it.

The problem is that once you start descend down the staircase to the lazy, low-bar, comfortable survival there is no way back. A few more steps…and nobody is climbing back up.

I hesitate to discuss the M religion in this thread again but that low figure has always appeared very iffy to me. I’m pretty sure it’s higher among the practicing ones.

The M religion… the Somali one… That M Religion?

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Which M? !!!!

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I looked it up and it’s apparently 3.4.

I looked at the Reddit Dmitry posted about the strange activities. They are indeed bizarre but seem to highlight the importance on fertility not necessarily sex (genital anointing). The Puritans from whom the Mormons sprang engaged in all sorts of bizarre “cult-like” behaviors:

There is a minority who craves stuff like running marathons.

The freaky will inherit the earth. That first bench press is torture. But soon enough you just might find yourself structuring the intervening time periods around reliable steady recovery for that next go. : )

I knew a guy in college who could do > 10 one arm pull ups. It was not human. His nickname was the monkey.

Which M? !!!!

The Melkites, of course. Didn’t you see how people got all worked up about Melkites in the previous thread?

Dang, how’d I miss that?! It would have been right up my alley!

I thought he was talking about either Manicheanism or Masons!

In one of those old cemeteries near Boston Common, there is a grave that has the name “Increase” on it.

Does anyone know about the Marmites? Are they from New Zealand?

Apparently, they have mental hygiene criteria and operate the Sanitarium Health and Wellbeing Company.

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Must have missed that. In private conversation Armenians often call westerners in general ‘Melkites’, though of course the word just means any Roman (Chalcedonian) Christian. Etymology comes from the Semitic root for ‘king’, i.e, the emperor.

Mythology explained in one comic [MORE]

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This is a really good article pertaining to the car repair topic Thulean Friend and I were discussing last thread. It’s very much worth the read even if you think you don’t have any interest in car repair. It touches on some of the core issues of our increasingly complex technological world.

https://www.wired.com/story/high-tech-cars-killing-the-traditional-auto-repair-shop/#intcid=_wired-right-rail_04d65f30-1c0e-410b-b6d8-87e67b8b68f9_popular4-1-reranked-by-vidi

In private conversation Armenians often call westerners in general ‘Melkites’,

That is interesting. I actually attend a Melkite Church and am aware of some of the history pertaining to it, but wouldn’t have guessed it would be used quite that way. It makes sense, I suppose.

But no, there wasn’t actually any Melkite discussion last thread. Mikel was talking about his surprisingly heated Mormon discussion with Dmity (I wouldn’t have guessed a Russian and a Basque would be so heated over Mormon, but life is full of surprises!)

But in a case of self-fulfilling prophecy it seems that Mikel has manifested a Melkite discussion into this thread!

I’ve heard of the Aussie spread called Marmite but never of any group named that. It appears that the Sanitarium Health and Wellbeing Company is actually a Seventh Day Adventist project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanitarium_Health_and_Wellbeing_Company

I suppose that might be better than being a wholly owned Metallica Health and Wellbeing Company…

Sorry about that. If I had known, I would have chosen Maronites or Mennonites instead.

But well, since we’re at it, do you have unusual ritual or proselytizing practices that would look strange to sensitive Europeans?

Well, there is no anointing of genitals that I’m aware of, but I think that Emil Nikola Richard would have to agree that the hats are pretty decent…

They do have married priests, which weirds out most Roman Catholics I talk to, so perhaps that constitutes the Melkite Church being a perverse sex cult after all!

I don’t know if this is true but I have read on a religion trivia site that the thing about covering your head in church is sourced in a 2000 year old theory about human biology that the same base material produced sex fluid and hair and the belief was exposed hair was an incitement to horny demons to violate your person.

We have lost a bunch of great data since the academic industry decided religion was all a bunch of superstitious nonsense and needed ignoring for the sake of proper useful knowledge.

@bashi Yea I know it’s common knowledge that Jatts are Scythians & Rajputs/Gujjars are Huns.
They straddle NW India though so many are Sikh/Muslim – they’ve faded from the mainstream.

Hinduism today is culturally rooted in the Gangetic or Gujurati-Maratha region.
There’s not even genetic overlap – Upper Caste or NW Indians are 3x closer to Avars.

https://araingang.medium.com/south-asia-ancestry-map-637092c0728a

It is an interesting article. Do you know whether or not electric cars, specifically Teslas, due to the paucity of moving engine parts are easier to maintain and avoid some of the pitfalls of more traditionally designed cars, or do they present their own set of complex problems? Car repair problems 101: Teslas vs porsches (I use posches because they are used as examples in the article you posted).

The Karlin discord is full of:

1. Angry American White Nationalists who believe:
• Being White = Automatically Vedic Upper Caste
• Aryans Eat Beef
• Circumcision is Trad
• Everyone wants to be White
• Non-White Gangs don’t control large parts of the USA (cities)

2. Weirdos:
• Half white Copt defending smelling his dad’s dick or measuring his mom/sisters labia
• German-American (mixed) White Nationalist who thinks poking at poop in the toilet is cool.
• Random SinoBoos who defend China at the drop of a hat, while being White Nationalists

3. Random LatAms & Chinese:
• They hate India for being a brown country with culture
• Refuse to remain on topic, and try to suck up to the wignats
• Asian trolls who hate Indians, but are turned on by Indian Man Chinese Woman couples

To top it all off most of them value religion, but hate religiosity – calling it a larp, cope or w/e

“I don’t let any dieties control my life”

Truly a circus,

I remember this “viper” saying that’s just what to expect from the discord platform, not even a reflection on the “Kesslerisation appreciator” himself.

Btw, I guess you heard of this, but I was rereading Herodotos a while back and noticed his description of Scythians worshipping swords. You’re still a pajeet though, sir.

America is in many ways the dream of the peasant labouring in the middle ages before the modern age. A house warm, a car that moves, a TV glowing, a fridge full etc.

Ukies worship antitank guns and proffer sainthood upon them. I suspect there will be sects who bow before Drones.

The Visegrad crew now advocating Islamic terrorism. I’m noticing a drop in sympathy from Western Europeans who communicate online in English and French for these supposedly based Central/Eastern European countries like Poland. Germans with any self-respect – assuming there are some left – must be looking at the reaction to Nord Stream from Poland & the Baltics along with the WW2 grifting and drawing conclusions about their ‘allies’. Hungary is still fine but no reason left to care anymore about Poles and Baltoids. They have too much undigested history, too big a chip on their shoulders, and too selfish & pig-headed in general.

In other news nearly 630k Ukrainians have applied for temporary resident status – in Canada whether students or special circumstances like this war there is almost no such thing as temporary status, permanent status will follow. Over 312k have already been accepted. Given Canada’s family unification policies and lack of clarity regarding how many of these applications do not include dependent relatives & soldiers left behind its possible that something like 2-3%, maybe more if the war drags on, of Ukraine’s entire pre-war population could end up in Canada. A lot of these will be young people. Even with a Ukrainian victory, however that is defined, the future of Ukraine doesn’t look good.

Hungary is still fine

Here’s a transcript of a recent Orban interview by German magazine Cicero:
https://miniszterelnok.hu/panel-discussion-involving-prime-minister-viktor-orban-and-the-directors-of-the-monthly-magazine-cicero/
Of course Orban isn’t perfect either (most notably regarding corruption and nepotism), but compared to the horror show from Poland and the Baltic states whose politicians seem keen on a world war against Sino-Russian-Iranian alliance he’s a model of sanity and responsibility.

Excellent map.

I would just replace “Ancient Iranian” by Elamite and/or BAMAC and it would be perfect.

Quite interesting how Americans seem to be promoting the idea that the Chinese are “lying flat”, while the Chinese seem to be promoting the idea that Americans are “quiet quitters.”

What if they are both right, and it is a sign of the upcoming severe decline in civilization?

I have a feeling that a lot of people around the World act kind of passive and are unsure of what lies ahead. The passionate ones are seen as somewhat disturbing, even dangerous and are applauded when they exterminate each other somewhere far, preferably in Syrak or Ukraine.

But once the passionate and energetic dead, and the developed world population old and largely childless, who’s gonna ensure “the progress” (sorry to use this completely discredited word) going forward or even current level of knowledge and culture remain sustained?

The eclipse is nearly certain. Black Sun rises, our offspring will probably live in dark and dangerous times. But it will also be a time of opportunity for those who are not afraid of the Darkness. They will prevail.

I was intending humor. While Kiwis are zealous about their Marmite, I do not believe they think of it as a religion.

I noticed the “Sanatarium” branding at one point and thus the manufacturer name.

I was unaware that it was associate with the Seventh Day Adventist product.

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Quite interesting how Americans seem to be promoting the idea that the Chinese are “lying flat”, while the Chinese seem to be promoting the idea that Americans are “quiet quitters.”

What if they are both right, and it is a sign of the upcoming severe decline in civilization?

It is a reflection of dysfunction, not the cause.

In America, rewards are assigned based on DEI credentialing. If hard work offers no hope of gain… Why do it?

The problem is fixable, as Christian Populism still contains the necessary concepts. However, it will take time.

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Have you read David Reich Who We Are and How We Got Here?

Julius Evola Doctrine of Awakening?

Do you know better sources on these topics?

Pure bliss from Orban, must be afraid now that various matras might excommunicate him too, lol

I called it aggression on day one, and we accepted the European interpretation. Our thinking about the war is the same as the European Union’s position, of which we’re a part. So there’s no Hungarian position which is distinct from the European position: we share the European Union’s position. This is aggression. Moreover, I’m a lawyer, I was once – or, to be more precise, I went to law school. Legally, the situation is absolutely clear. There is international law, and the Russians have violated it. This is called aggression. They’ve started a war. Whatever the reason, it’s an international violation, and there’s nothing more to talk about. It’s aggression.

Surviving total war in Kherson Region, Ukraine in 1941 – 1945. Vladyslav Alexander

How Kherson went from 100,000 souls to 100 residents between 1941 and 1945.

It’s happened before.

I think that, in order for the US to stand any chance at fixing its problems, it would need to close its borders, for at least ten years.

The question is how to deal with that aggression. Balts, who must be some of the most myopic and emotionally incontinent peoples at least in the northern hemisphere, regularly come up with brilliant proposals like this (from a former high-ranking Estonian general):

I haven’t read any of these books. I have read Evola’s Men among the ruins, Ride the tiger, and tried to read his book about Tantra but has been turned off by his insistence on the sexual angle.

I think that the best texts on Awakening are the scriptures of the Vijnanavada/Yogacara/Cittamatra school. IMHO they have gone the further in their study of consciousness and its relationship to both phenomenology and epistemology.

https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/5793770

I see this school of thought as more aligned with my psychology than Madhyamaka.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/madhyamaka/

I am of course biased towards a more “idealistic” outlook on Reality. Altan Bakshi (whose conversation I miss a lot) would certainly not agree with my preference towards Yogacara. He was a Tibetan Buddhist after all, while my main refuge is Ch’an/Zen.

That’s Lenny Henry.

A Black Numinorian?

still not funny, Lenny.

the young pay the cost of DIE the most, and don’t get hired or promoted.

Did you mean :the young pay the cost and DIE the most, and don’t get hired or promoted

Still plenty of “help wanted” signs in my neck of the woods. McDonalds and Burger King start at no les than $15 an hour. That means that a young couple could make possibly $62,400/year. No reason to go off of the deep end and end it all by overdosing on opioids…

Thank you.

I will look at your recommended sources I have not seen before, although it will definitely take more than a day!

In the meantime, have a look at Alan Moore’s deity:

The Brill publication which retails for 330 dollars is 42 minutes of downloading time from libgen away!

Is this a sin?

Is your pro-Ukrainian activism not enough, do you also have to be the worst kind of self-satisfied boomer? Seriously, going on about “careers” in fast food restaurants while completely ignoring songbird’s point about the escalating diversity regime, that’s really a bit much.

Logos must be freed from the Demiurge’s entrapment. Information must flow free. Long live Libgen that helps our consciousness evolve towards the Omega Point!

😁

Beautiful statue, they got Him represented right.

Each time I see His representations in their myriad forms, I feel both gratitude and rancor. I’m probably just being picky and spoiled. Without Him, where would we all be ? Would we be at all ?

The economy in my neck of the woods (>1000 mi from Phoenix) also is booming. If the end of the world is on the way it certainly has a deceptive prelude.

Ted Kaczynski says the technological singularity has already happened.

Is your pro-Ukrainian activism not enough

As long as your over the top hysterics about supporting Ukraine remains at a boiling point, my Ukrainian activism will remain intact. I also graduated from college at a time of a long recession and couldn’t find “meaningful” work and had to settle for restaurant type work, so my post about this topic is not devoid of sensitivity. But what can you do? Nowadays it’s well known that a degree in liberal arts is not necessarily an open door to a high paying job or career. In my day, believe it or not, this wasn’t the case. Nobody ever promised you that life would be a rose garden, sometimes you have to make due with what’s being offered.

The video below is of a particularly deadly German secret weapon code named ‘Sonia’. of which, had Fritz simply had more of them, could well of changed the course of events.

As it was this weapon was simply developed too late.

Well, to be specific, it was developed over two decades after the war too late in 1967.

But, still…

Nowadays it’s well known that a degree in liberal arts is not necessarily an open door to a high paying job or career.

That’s besides the point, I doubt the people killing themselves with opioids whom you more or less mocked in your comment are mostly liberal arts graduates, clearly something else is going on. Don’t really want to get into a long discussion about this, but I do find it striking how completely incapable of even the slightest self-criticism or of any sympathy for younger generations many boomers in the US and in Western Europe seem to be, really a terrible après moi le déluge mindset.

I suspect there will be sects who bow before Drones.

Some pets are named Bayraktar. Not kids yet, hopefully. Pretty cool to have a little French bulldog named Bayraktar. 🙂

Well, the younger Americans that I work with and sit next to at work, are very hard working and intelligent, so I don’t have the time nor the desire to feel sorry for a lot of the lazy couch potatoes that chose to sit on the couch all day long and complain. I never ask them if the have college degrees or not (I suspect that a some of them don’t), and they seem quite able to focus and master the work that is put out in front of them.

I do know of one opioid user that has ruined his life and has put quite a strain on his immediate family. He was church going acquaintance, that had a great degree in chemistry, a beautiful wife and 3 really nice looking boys, and a beautiful house on the periphery of the city . He exchanged all of this for a life of pursuing opioids, visiting rehab centers and hanging around really lousy people. He always seems to find great excuses about why he ended up this way, and at this point I’ve told him that only God can help him, and I leave it at that…

I’m noticing a drop in sympathy from Western Europeans who communicate online in English and French for these supposedly based Central/Eastern European countries like Poland.

A combination of the phenomenon of useful-for-Russia idiots who see a savior in Putin and therefore hatred for his enemies, and resentment of peoples who are superior to them and highlight their own faults. Peoples who actually fight for their homelands rather than invite in invaders who displace them, peoples who demand money rather than give it to those who replace them in their own lands, peoples who retain a high level of physical beauty that has been fading among the Westerners, etc.

In other news nearly 630k Ukrainians have applied for temporary resident status – in Canada

I’d guess most of the ones in Germany and Poland will return (my own have come back in summer to central Ukraine from the Rhineland where they went in March when Russians were threatening Kiev and Zhytomir) but most of the ones in North America will stay: it is further away and more difficult to come back. Though by no means will they all stay, many husbands and brothers have remained in Ukraine so there is a reason to return.

Be careful, it will take longer for Canada to become an Indian-Chinese homeland (Singapore North) where Anglo servants kowtow before their new Chinese and Hindu elites, with all of those young Eastern Europeans refugees boosting the European population.

Reminds me of the Thulsa Doom character in Conan the Barbarian.

Anyhow, the self proclaimed ‘progressive’ types can’t help themselves with the race mixing thing.

Like that Ice Age Columbus clip I recently posted which featured the primordial European Solutrean chief who was obviously half Cree (and half Scot), European peoples are not supposed to have anything to themselves.

Truth is a dangerous thing to the powers that be.

“I don’t let any dieties control my life”

Hey, I don’t let any dieties control my life either, I eat whatever I please!

That’s a good and balanced article.

Russia has already been defeated, its reputation, influence in the West, economy and military have been permanently damaged.

As much as I am on the side of Ukraine, it isn’t comfortable to be on the same side as the MIC Russia-haters.

Now seems a good time for us to be a gracious winner and negotiate something reasonable.

The economy in my neck of the woods (>1000 mi from Phoenix) also is booming. If the end of the world is on the way it certainly has a deceptive prelude.

Energy costs and transport issues are causing huge problems in my area.

As a matter of survival, everyone is trying to pad cash into their piece of any new arrangement. During:

• Trump’s 1st Term — Everyone could agree on a 12 or 24 month contract.
• Not-The-President Biden’s regime — Deals running 3 months or less are common.
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Customers have paid penalties to cancel deals because:

♦ Financing fell apart. Gone. Or, unaffordable rates.
♦ Their eventual buyer cancelled. And, that cascaded up the chain.

Major capital plans for expansion are “on hold” pending price/demand predictability returns.

We have, so far, avoided the dreaded “deferred maintenance” decision. However, some early discussions along those lines have taken place.

Our local outlook is “scared spitless“. Open door, check for grim reaper, then enter room.

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I can’t recall the details but the former Estonian President, who is one of the most obnoxious former leaders on earth, recently suggested that once the war is over Ukraine should consider ditching Cyrillic script for Latin. He cited Ataturk getting rid of Arabic script as an example to follow. I know most Ukrainians embrace a Western identity these days but I’d be surprised if Ukrainian language speakers were willing to go that far but who knows. Maybe AP would have insight on such a possibility.

I think that, in order for the US to stand any chance at fixing its problems, it would need to close its borders, for at least ten years.

Complete moratorium, and from the rhetoric I hear, I don’t see how its possible. Hard to halt, when the founding mythos has been deconstructed, and the founding stock villified.

A great deal can be achieved without “complete”. A couple of examples:

Asylum claims allowed only if the U.S. is “First Safe Country”. Mexico is “Safe”, so that would eliminate the vast majority of So the & Central American asylum seekers right there.

The idea of citizenship by “drop location” is clearly not in the 14th Amendment. SCOTUS could easily support simple logic the the children of unknowns, tourist visas, and illegals are citizens of their home country (not America).

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but the former Estonian President, who is one of the most obnoxious former leaders on earth

I suppose that’s the charming fellow with John McCain on the top of his Twitter profile?
Anyway, supposedly the head of Ukraine’s national security council has said the Russian language should disappear from Ukrainian territory (can’t evaluate it for myself, since I understand neither Russian nor Ukrainian):

A minority of Ukrainians say the same, but it is very much a minority. Much more popular is the wish to change the Church calendars over to the Western one so that holidays are celebrated at the same time. I think a lot of churches have already made that change.

You’ve got to admit that the imagery is wonderful. Reminds me of the stuff Karlin used to paste here to great aplomb:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfqtSuRXEAIf6hq?format=jpg&name=large

Remember, the good old days?:

A lot of Russian-speakers from Ukraine want Russian to be gone from Ukraine. They tell themselves they themselves will stop speaking Russian, but slip and revert to Russian (like a broken New Year’s resolution). But they want to make sure their kids, unlike them, will not be Russian speakers. They want that language to disappear from Ukraine eventually.

It’s a rather predictable backlash to Putin invading and killing people (mostly Russian-speakers!) in order to preserve the Russian language.

A Jewish head of state in Europe is an evil thing. End of story. I know you are not allowed to say such things in Germany but the evidence is in.

Who say’s Hack isn’t a you know what…

Russian-speakers from Ukraine want Russian to be gone from Ukraine. They tell themselves they themselves will stop speaking Russian…they want that language to disappear from Ukraine eventually.

That’s is counter-intuitive and unnatural. If you believe it, you need to meet some real people from there. I do all the time, and we talk – always in Russian no matter where they are from in Ukraine – and they have never expressed that sentiment. You are politicizing people’s identity – imagine similar stuff about any other country-language. Your anger (maybe outright hatred) is getting better of you.

Language is a very sticky thing to abandon, especially a highly cultured language like Russian that generations grew up with. It is simply not going to happen because things like that don’t happen and because the Russians in Ukraine are not who you claim they are based on some sporadic interactions with your cousins – who are more likely to leave and end up shifting to English.

A lot of Russian-speakers from Ukraine want Russian to be gone from Ukraine.

“A lot” doesn’t mean all, and there’s a difference between people doing it on their own accord and a high official implying it should be a kind of political programme. It’s also incompatible with Ukraine’s alleged European aspirations, but since the EU will probably founder on this crisis, I suppose that’s not going to matter anyway.

Reminds me of the stuff Karlin used to paste here to great aplomb:

I thought back then it was delusional megalomania, and it looks even dumber now.

Zemmour in France, eliminating MENA origin migration, would have been a glorious thing.

The problem with Zelensky is not his parentage. It his allegiance to the European WEF. Indigenous Palestinian Jews (such as Likud members) are very annoyed at Zelensky.

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Vyacheslav Boguslayev, CEO of Motor Sich. Arrested by the Jew of Kiev and the SBU. Motor Sich sold arms to Russia. wow! Life sentence.

It’s never good to make a Jew the actual head of state. It cannot be a good thing. Actual people who are invested there and run useful businesses are getting torched left right and center by these jumped up yids and their henchmen.

I guess Ukraine expects all the gear will now come from the US and UK.

Haha. Very amusing – you sound like a Sackler exec.

BTW, which national TV network’s evening news broadcast do you tune into daily at 6:30 PM (or Mountain Time equivalent?)

That’s is counter-intuitive and unnatural.

Nonsense. If Gaelic weren’t so hard probably a lot of English-speaking Irish people in a conflict zone like Northern Ireland would try to do the same. But these Russian-speakers already can speak and understand Ukrainian, they just use Russian more often because it is easier for them.

If you believe it, you need to meet some real people from there

I literally know such people who are in Ukraine. And some friends from Moscow have Ukrainian relatives like that, the Muscovites are amazed when they talk about it. Almost all Ukrainians are bilingual, the Russians-speakers are simply those for whom Russian comes a little easier. Many of them are deciding they will now, as a principle, try to get used to speaking Ukrainian only. I don’t pretend to know what percentage of Russian-speakers in Ukraine think like this, but it must be a significant one because I’ve seen the sentiment expressed by various people in Ukraine who are not related to each other.

I do all the time, and we talk – always in Russian no matter where they are from in Ukraine –

Would you be capable of speaking Ukrainian with them? Is their English better than their Russian? Otherwise, what other language would they speak with you?

and they have never expressed that sentiment.

Well, either it has not come up, or your well-established reputation for dishonesty is at work again.

You should ask what they think of it, not that I would expect an honest report back from you. Though if they left early in the war and haven’t been bombed they might not be as zealous as those in Ukraine.

Language is a very sticky thing to abandon, especially a highly cultured language like Russian that generations grew up with. It is simply not going to happen because things like that don’t happen

The Russian-speakers of Lviv mostly abandoned that language already. Even the ethnic Russian minority in that city is mostly Ukrainian-speaking now, at least the ones who grew up after independence (people under 35). Kiev has seen a slow increase in Ukrainian before the Russian invasion. This will now accelerate.

In Ukraine’s case it is mostly ethnic Ukrainian Russian-speakers deciding that they will quit that language. It is too early to tell if they stick to it, or course. They might backtrack if the war ends and emotions settle down (how many people promise to go to the gym at New Year’s but slack of after a few months?). But policies can stay longer. They might get rid of the Russian primary schools too (why not? Russians pretend such schools don’t exist anyways when they lie that Ukraine has no Russian schools), take Russian off the airwaves.

“Sackler exec”? “a you know what”? I must be the ghost of the chameleon man? 🙂

If I do watch the evening news, it’s the ABC version with host David Muir (he’s the one that my roommate likes to watch). Otherwise, I prefer getting my news here at UNZ Review, second hand. 🙂

I watch a lot of the Ukrainian news sources now presented through YouTube. I’m really amazed at how many English language words have recently permeated the Ukrainian language. The one that real irks me lately is “фиксуємо” (to fix something) where the perfectly sturdy and long used “направимо” is more than sufficient.

More destruction of identity, ie Russian, Ukrainian, Canadian, and various European states, for now, along with (just getting started) depopulation…just as the behind the scenes instigators of this developing world war have wanted from the start.

The other two world wars had not dissimilar objectives in regards to identity destruction.

“A lot” doesn’t mean all, and there’s a difference between people doing it on their own accord and a high official implying it should be a kind of political programme

If enough voters demand it, it will happen.

. It’s also incompatible with Ukraine’s alleged European aspirations, but since the EU will probably founder on this crisis

As I’ve explained to Beckow in earlier discussions, both France and the Baltics have such policies. In Ukraine’s case it would be both anti-colonial which the Left wouldn’t object to, and nationalist/nativist which the Right wouldn’t object to.

Zemmour would have trigger “Fall Gelb” again somehow. Just like that heeb, French President Leon Blum ultimately did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Blum

Almost everyone in Ireland speaks English. It is the necessary language for business-to-business commerce.

Trying to compare “Ireland / Northern Ireland” to Ukraine is not productive. Anyone who wants to use Irish Gaelic as a social language in NI is free to do so.
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There is a much better parallel to the terrorist truck bombing of Ukie-stan extremists.

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I can’t recall the details but the former Estonian President, who is one of the most obnoxious former leaders on earth, recently suggested that once the war is over Ukraine should consider ditching Cyrillic script for Latin.

That’s not for him to meddle with (if he really said that), so he should stay quiet about it.

Now seems a good time for us to be a gracious winner and negotiate something reasonable.

Those who are doing the actual physical fighting will be doing the negotiating. Those who helped can have a say but only with close alignment with the one who’s doing the fighting and dying.

And that includes the Russian Volunteer Corps and the Legion Freedom of Russia.

Think it was S who mentioned “Deliverance” in the last thread.

Haven’t seen it or read the book. Nor would I want to, but what I think is noteworthy about it: the author was born and bred in Georgia (novel takes place in rural Georgia) – but in Atlanta.

We might want to think about how Russian will be used for diplomatic purposes. There will be a need to communicate with everyone, not just Russians (but also Kazakhs, Caucasians, diaspora Russophones, etc).

To all who used to call Ukraine fake and gay – why do you care about language when those who supported this invasion (or did not oppose it properly) kept saying that “they are one people”? If they are one people, then who cares if they speak Ukrainian or Russian – it is, after all, one language, according to them.

Don’t dig a grave for another, you might yourself fall in it, as the saying goes.

Zemmour is an Algerian Jew you cretin.

Wonder how many here realize that the official language of South Sudan is English (believe meaning all school instruction there is in English, as of 2007 or so.)

Did not know it myself until I watched the first episode of YouTuber Indigo Traveller’s new series on the country.

Zemmour wanted to deal with Muslim immigration you pathetic troll.

Why do violent Jihadists, such as yourself, always try to draw attention away the TRUTH? (1)

French officials want to sweep the shocking murder of 12-year-old Lola under the rug to hide their own failed migration policy, said Marion Maréchal, vice-president of France’s right-wing Reconquest party, during an interview on BFMTV. She said that despite so many deaths at the hands of migrants in France, the country’s political class is still attempting to stifle any dissent on the topic.

“I think that beyond the case in question, the death of Lola is our collective responsibility. This isn’t a random event, nor is it just an isolated case. It is a social phenomenon that is threatening us all. I will be a bit direct, but how many liters of blood will it take to have the right to speak? (…) Lola is not an isolated case,” said Maréchal.

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The brutal rape and murder of the French schoolgirl Lola — by an illegal Algerian migrant who was supposed to have already been deported — has led to an explosion in debate about the devastating impact of mass migration on French society and the country’s security. Critics of French President Emmanuel Macron are accusing his left-liberal government of being largely responsible for the young girl’s death.

Zemmour would defend French children from SJW Islamic sexually deviance. He would want all of them sent home before more 12 year olds die in the name of your Muhammad, the Blood Prophet.

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(1) https://rmx.news/france/how-many-liters-of-blood-will-it-take-to-have-the-right-to-speak-french-politician-says-the-murder-of-12-year-old-lola-is-being-swept-under-the-rug/

He’d have done nothing.

The wikipedia page on religion in South Sudan is confusing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Sudan#Religion
Doesn’t sound like any reliable data is available.
They’ve also applied to join the Commonwealth. A new source of strength for Global Britain.

They want to be Hollywood movie stars.

Chinese Heston sits at the right hand of God…while Lawrence Olivier sat at the left hand of Noel Coward.

Censuses are political dynamite in Africa.

Didn’t realize it, until I read “The Africans” by David Lamb. Thought it was just a state capacity issue. (Which would be embarrassing, as the US had a census in 1790) Though, partly it is a technical issue – it is an impossible challenge to get around different tribes fudging their own numbers for political gains. Harder still to prevent them from warring when the new numbers are released.

IMO, this is why the theory that they’ll stop taking censuses in the UK soon is very believable.

I can see some of it myself, when accidentally seeing adverts for the US census. It is an obvious tool for promoting wealth and power transfer. The advertisements are pretty naked about it.

IMO, this is why the theory that they’ll stop taking censuses in the UK soon is very believable.

Isn’t that what happened in Lebanon? iirc the last census there was in the 1940s, everybody knows that there have been massive demographic shifts since then, but the issue is just too politically explosive. Though I guess the political incentives in Britain might be rather different.
There was another horror crime committed by one of Merkel’s million recently btw, which I might just as well mention, if only as a change from the relentless talk about Ukraine. A Somali who came in 2015 attacked two 20- and 35-year old painters on a street in Ludwigshafen-Oggersheim and more or less butchered them with a large kitchen knife. He cut off the lower arm of one of them and threw it on the balcony of his ex-girlfriend. Then he walked to a nearby drug store and stabbed a customer (who survived) there before being shot (non-lethally) by police.
Motive is still unclear, probably uncontrolled rage, so far it seems the victims were selected randomly. Maybe he wanted to scare his ex-girlfriend and thought he might just as well kill some pedestrians, dismember them and use their body parts as a power move. Incidentally, Oggersheim is where Helmut Kohl was from, I guess one could discern some deeper symbolism here.
Anyway, I remember a comment by reiner tor from a few years ago where he basically wrote that he envied people living in 1957, because nowadays it seems like we’re either heading towards a spectacularly stupid world war, or to a spectacularly stupid end through immigration apocalypse. Events since then certainly haven’t disproven that assessment.

Man it must be so cool to be a Ukrainian Member of Parliament. You can just schizopost irl all day. "I demand to recognize Belarus as occupied. I demand recognition of Ichkeria. I demand to recognize the sun as a chariot of fire. I demand to recognize my dick as 10 inches long." https://t.co/BfBMyP6XLD

— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) October 22, 2022

That’s a good and balanced article.

Russia has already been defeated, its reputation, influence in the West, economy and military have been permanently damaged.

As much as I am on the side of Ukraine, it isn’t comfortable to be on the same side as the MIC Russia-haters.

Now seems a good time for us to be a gracious winner and negotiate something reasonable.

The replies I posted to that article are good and balanced. Russia isn’t losing and will not lose.

There will be Uniate Javelinism and Orthodox Greek Bayractarites. The Green Tshirt Heretics and the
Ecumenical Council of Nikolaev FOABites.

Wrong man to have that convo with.
You don’t eat dogs, cats, snakes or horses.

Your preferences are shaped by those who took your foreskin||
Aryans have Maryada – a clear code – it’ll please you to save your life in the interest of cow protection||

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Water under the bridge, Rajputs are Huns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchon_Huns

You’re not Greek or Iranian & like Germans will cease to exist in a century.
Wokechoke ignores that Weapons are worshipped in general – not as idols.

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Be careful, it will take longer for Canada to become an Indian-Chinese homeland (Singapore North) where Anglo servants kowtow before their new Chinese and Hindu elites, with all of those young Eastern Europeans refugees boosting the European population.

6 lakh is about a year’s immigration. 20 Lakh with family unification is like 3..
Ukr also suck at subtlety – their hate crimes/RW terrorism further the narrative.

The avg White sees Ukraine getting billions while Syria or w/e gets nothing.
They can sleep for 20 years knowing Whites matter more even as a multicultural minority.

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The longer the Russian invasion of Ukraine continues, the more ashamed
I feel of being white. But then the Russians (and the Germans) have been
an embarrassment to white people for many centuries now, mostly due
to their tendency to hyperviolence and irrationality.

Martin Luther invented a new religion by saying, “Sin boldly!”
Can you imagine Jesus saying something like this? Whatever
religion Luther invented, it wasn’t Christianity. From that point
on, German ideologies became more and more psychotic –
Marxism, Nietzscheanism, Nazism, Freudianism (although that’s
mostly Jewish), as in the phrase, “Neurotics build castles in the air, and
the psychotics move in.” More to the point, the psychotic visions
of reality provided the Germans with a rationalization of their
proclivity for hyperviolence. Look at the murder rates by Germans
during 1900 – 1945. First a minor genocide in southwest Africa,
then WW I and WW II where the murder and killing rates
(because if you’re dead, it makes no difference to you whether
you were killed or murdered) reached stratospheric levels.
During 1900-45 Germany became effectively a nation of murderers.
At the end of WW II the victors concluded that the Germans
are too primitive to rule themselves and in due time will
produce another Hitler. Therefore, for the sake of peace
in Europe, Germany has been reduced to a nonentity, and
the Germans kept on a short leash.

Today we have a similar situation with Russia. The Russians
are clearly too primitive to rule themselves, and have produced
a number of tyrants – Lenin, Stalin, and now Putin. Just as in
Germany, Christianity has had no effect on Russian behavior.
Germans and Russians are the most anti-Christian peoples
in Europe.Jesus said, “Love thy neighbor.” I don’t recall Him
ever saying, “Invade thy neighbor.” Hence for the sake of peace
in Europe, it appears that the rational course of action is to
reduce Russia to a nonentity (through attrition?) or a local
power, and to keep Russians on a short leash.Of course, easier
said than done. Russia is a little bigger than Germany. But at
the very least, no alliance between Germany and Russia should
be allowed to take place, which has indeed been standard
American and British policy for decades.

Not fundamentally different from Putin annexing in referendae several oblasts of which they don’t even control half of.

As I’ve been saying from the beginning of this war, Russia and Ukraine remain cultural mirror images of each other. The only difference are their respective geopolitical situations since 1991. Magically swap Ukrainians with Russians in their territories and the identical things would be happening. The fact that the fighting has almost entirely been in the ethnic Russian part of Ukraine says as much.

You’re not Greek or Iranian

?

& like Germans will cease to exist in a century.

Germany will always be a 50x better place to live than anywhere in India whatever its future ethnic mixture is. I notice you don’t live there.
Well, there’s been a successful Armenian diaspora independent of national state since Kilikian Armenia fell in 14th century. It’s not as if the Singh’s have country of their own, as I remember the Khalistan insurrection at the Golden Temple didn’t go very well.

WC: A Jewish head of state in Europe is an evil thing. End of story. I know you are not allowed to say such things in Germany but the evidence is in

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-200/#comment-5617740

Zemmour wanted to deal with Muslim immigration

WC: He’d have done nothing.

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-200/#comment-5617985

So “Joooozzzzz” have no power? Zemmour could not have done anything? That seems weak (not evil).

There seems to be an inconsistency with your logic surrounding the “Joooozzzzz”.

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I believe this is what you are looking for.

Religions
Christian 60.5%, folk religion 32.9%, Muslim 6.2%, other <1%, unaffiliated <1% (2020 est.)

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/south-sudan/#people-and-society

South Sudan (Christian) separated from Sudan (Muslim). In short form, the oil is under Christian land, yet the Muslim population was reaping near 100% of the benefit. The breakup in 2011 was intended to cure this problem.

English is the official language of South Sudan. Thus it predominates in schools, government, and business. However, illiteracy is quite common.

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The fact that the fighting has almost entirely been in the ethnic Russian part of Ukraine says as much.

And the fact that Putler has decided to go full psycho in Eastern Ukraine and bomb civilian enclaves because his regular armed forces are doing such a lousy job there, will ultimately severe any real comradery between Russified Ukrainians and Russians. In some really concrete ways, old Putler has managed to quickly coalesce strong feelings of oneness and nationality amongst all Ukrainians, east – west, north – south.

Your ‘analysis‘ is roughly on a level of a 12-year old, a total disconnect from reality. I and others explained to you why Russians in Ukraine without Russian language will not happen – and should not. Check out the current EU rules on minorities and not the quasi-fascist Balts or France from 3 generations ago.

But you don’t respond rationally. Instead you are back to your screaming baby fit: “lies!” If you cannot even understand basic verbal categories, e.g. opinions and projections of what may happen cannot by “lies!”, what are you doing on this forum?

I wish you luck, but you are way over you head. Maybe the poor education caught up with you – or possibly you don’t understand critical thinking.

Some similarity. The Russian side is nonetheless the one with a more reality based claim that includes not seeking cancel culture stances much unlike the Kiev regime.

Awhile back, I recall someone saying that Ukraine in actuality is a more extreme version of how Russia is negatively portrayed.

A vignette from my recent experience

In Lugansk I saw Ukrainian names of some stores. I pointed to a local that the name of their largest hotel is in Russian on top and in Ukrainian over the entrance. The response was “We are not Ukraine, we are normal”

Check out the current EU rules on minorities and not the quasi-fascist Balts or France from 3 generations ago.

Why do you whine when caught lying as usual?

Current French language policy, not “3 generations ago”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_France

“France has one official language, the French language. The French government does not regulate the choice of language in publications by individuals, but the use of French is required by law in commercial and workplace
communications”

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_language

“ In the late 20th century, the French government considered incorporating the independent Breton-language immersion schools (called Diwan) into the state education system. This action was blocked by the French Constitutional Council based on the 1994 amendment to the Constitution that establishes French as the language of the republic. Therefore, no other language may be used as a language of instruction in state schools. The Toubon Law implemented the amendment, asserting that French is the language of public education”

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Was 1994 3 generations ago Beckow, or were you just lying again and as usual?

Whine some more about being called a liar in the same post where you lie as always.

I’ve heard from reliable sources that soon there’ll be a settlement of the heirless property issue which will involve much of Warsaw’s housing stock being given to Jewish organizations. The NYC-based company which will administer it apparently already has plans for massive increases in rent and for building several mega-brothels which will cater to Israeli tourists.
There are also plans for making Ukrainian an official language in Poland that has equal status with Polish. School curricula will be adapted to focus on the dark legacy of Polish colonialism and on Bandera’s fight for freedom (to be celebrated by regular marches involving brandishing of farm utensils).

Ukraine is a signatory to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Charter_for_Regional_or_Minority_Languages
imo Ukraine should avoid anything that looks like repression of the Russian language, but it’s of course their decision. Don’t be surprised though if it costs Ukraine its sympathies among liberals who think Ukraine is fighting for “European values”.

I’ve heard from reliable sources

My reliable sources say that Germany will pay over $1 Trillion in reparations to Poland in the near future.

heirless property issue which will involve much of Warsaw’s housing stock … already has plans for massive increases in rent

All significant commercial property was 100% resolved decades ago. Private residential claims have to be adjudicated one-by-one in Polish courts. And, Polish law at most would require cash compensation, they would not change title of owner occupied property.

Thus, the only real estate in play are explicity religious sites (e.g. synagogues and graveyards) that have been over built. This is a *tiny* amount of acreage.

Poland will be use a small portion of German reparations to buy out vague Israeli claims, relocate the deceased, etc. Very little land will actually change hands.

What will Poland do with the rest of the reparations they extract from Germany?

Jewish organizations. The NYC-based company

Palestinian Jews dislike post-Judaic NYC apostates. Why would real Jews let fake non-Jews take control of anything? This exact scheme was introduced and routed last year.

Any money would go to management in Israel where Likud and Orthodox politicians would strike a deal over management. NYC Sh!tL!bs will be totally shut out.

PEACE 😇

When the Jews realize they can make more money from the insurance on the property won they will burn Warsaw down.

You’re not Greek or Iranian – you’re random mountain residue betwixt Empires.
Khalistan insurrection at the Golden Temple didn’t go well. – A Company of Singhs killed a Btn of Infantry.

There was also the siege of Delhi last year – talking is all Armenians can do.

I notice you don’t live there. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandpur_Sahib

You have an Anglo surname & are unarmed – on top of that you’re a christcuck.
A living meme up till the white man your sister married, go rope.

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Why would he block Arab migration to France? Even if he said wished to stop it, he was only pulling the Gallic Leg.

What will Poland do with the rest of the reparations they extract from Germany?

Maybe buy you a sense of humour? Of course a Judeo-Christian one.

Why would he block Arab migration to France

Are you seriously asking why a French Infidel would want to stop paedophile, murderous Muslims (Arab, African, Persian, Paki, etc.) from invading?

Go read the story about the Mohammadites raping and killing a little girl that I posted above.

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-200/#comment-5617979

Why would Zemmour, or any Judeo-Christian, want Jihadist Rape-ugees?

Islam is a threat to all Infidels In France (primarily Christians and Jews).

PEACE 😇

I have a sense of humor.

Your antics, while fact free, are very funny. I laugh at your dribbling and capering on a regular basis.

PEACE 😇

A 1943 tongue in cheek demonstration of the drone like home delivery capabilities of the experimental Sikorsky VS-300 helicopter. The test pilot is Les Morris and the Connecticut household on the receiving end of the groceries is that of his own wife and children.

Speaking of drones: Zeihan wants people to call their congressmen to tell them to repeal the Jones Act, which was passed in 1920 and requires all commerce between US ports in US waters to be on US built, flagged, and owned vessels, crewed by US citizens.

He says they are all union jobs and that traffic on American waterways decreased by 90%, after the act was passed. And that carriage on water is 10 times cheaper than on land, and that almost everything is now shipped by truck with is very expensive in comparison. And one of his favorite points is that the US is very well-watered with navigable rivers. Moreso than any other country in the world.

I consider it quite a curious holdover from before globalization, and would feel it very unsavory to have foreigners plying all the freshwater ports, deep in the interior.

Seems to me like a better solution would be robo-ships, which I would speculate would be much more practical than flying drones or self-driving trucks.

Ukraine is a signatory to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Charter_for_Regional_or_Minority_Language

This Charter is under the auspices of the European Council and that is a separate organization from the European Commission and a separate set of laws from the acquis communautaire.

Of course, traditionally, the European Council has been closely consulted.

However, we must keep in mind two things. Ukraine ratified this treaty in 2005, in good spirit, when Ukraine had no idea it would be attacked by its neighbor (well, some nationalists knew it was coming, but they were too few and were ignored). I know that this treaty is meant to protect the minorities first and foremost, and not to protect from an aggressive neighbor (one of the owners of the protected languages), however, this can be considered an unusual situation where the speakers of that language are used as the fifth column to destabilize the state. These treaties should no longer be viewed in abstract, but should take into account the changing international background. The point of this type of legislation should be to protect in a new, more civilized European space and not to be used as an instrument in neo-colonial wars.

Zeihan wants people to call their congressmen to tell them to repeal the Jones Act, which was passed in 1920 and requires all commerce between US ports in US waters to be on US built, flagged, and owned vessels, crewed by US citizens.

Do you have a citation to back this up?

Zeihan has taken stances on reinvigorating the U.S. economy via Reindustrialization (e.g. microchips). Jones Act repeal does not seem consistent, though I concede he is eclectic.

He says they are all union jobs

There are legislative & regulatory options to open the market to nonunion competition while retaining the Jones Act, 100% U.S. requirement.

traffic on American waterways decreased by 90%

How much of this was decrease was driven by:

• Trains becoming *much* better?
• Complex water cargo regulation, laws, insurance, etc.?
• Radically different East-West (rather than North-South) population, and thus shipping requirements?

There is no navigable, freshwater connection from the West Coast to a Mississippi River tributary. The Panama Canal is well out of the way.

very unsavory to have foreigners plying all the freshwater ports, deep in the interior.

I concur.

The problem is a shortage of water in the Mississippi River. There are plenty of barges and crews.

PEACE 😇

Many Russophones are not only loyal, but are among the fiercest fighters for Ukraine.

Then why turn the language issue into a loyalty test?

And on a more human level, I don’t think I have to remind you that Germans were shunned after 1945 in many places.

What Russia has done so far in this war isn’t nearly on the same level as what Germans did in 1939-1945. Of course this could easily change in the near future (very ominous statements by Shoigu about Ukraine allegedly building a dirty bomb, one wonders what Russian intentions are here, are they planning something of the sort themselves?), but so far all this talk about “genocide” etc. is simply propaganda. I do believe that some allegations against Russian troops are true…they probably do arrest Ukrainian civilians they suspect of being anti-Russian, torture them and in some cases at least kill them. This is all very bad, but unfortunately it’s not that different from what even democratic Western states have done within living memory (not to mention various Western “allies”). The same applies to an even greater degree to “Russian drones have killed a pregnant woman”, where in many cases it’s probably not even clear to what extent civilian deaths were intentional.
Of course it’s understandable that Ukrainians are outraged about any of their own casualties, both civilian and military. But frankly, I cannot but suspect the motives of outsiders like yourself who harp so much on the atrocity issue and bring it up as an argument that there can be no negotiations at all with Russia (not even for an imperfect ceasefire, which is probably the only somewhat realistic possibility right now), that this must end in total Ukrainian victory, no matter the costs, and that citizens of the Western states supporting Ukraine have no right no question Ukrainian policies.

Interesting chart.

Here is a very short Zeihan vidya:

Will indulge into quoting myself, but roughly one year and half ago offered to make some bet:

Anyway, any bets on who and when will become the first UK PM from former Indian colony – Priti, Rishi or Sajid?

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-153/#comment-4719785

ofc, it was done half jokingly, but yet here we are now quickly nearing that point of Rishi as the acting official PM becoming reality, lol

Will it be India getting the revenge and now beginning projecting its power onto UK or banker Sunak will be used just as a vehicle/banner in order to pull nowday Hindus closer into Western camp against China or RF?

Here is a very short Zeihan vidya:

Thanks.

Ziehan does not address vessel size.

Yes. Staggeringly huge cargo vessels moving between ports with specialized cranes is very cheap.

What about, small vessels, short seawater transits, between 2nd and 3rd tier port cities? I suspect the timing would be problematic and the costs would be more “train-like” versus the “cheapness” of epic scale cargo carriers.

PEACE 😇

It was just a throw away pun you know. I couldn’t resist that deities was spelled dieties.

Hanging with too many poop stirrers and retards at the Discord seems to have made you a little uptight. It sounds like an unbelievable idiotic time over there. Thanks for reporting on it so we don’t have to find out personally!

Your preferences are shaped by those who took your foreskin

Celts have been eating cattle and pork long before any circumcision. Don’t worry though, I don’t believe in circumcision myself anyhow and have butcher dates in the next couple of weeks for a pair of oinkers and a troublesome bull calf.

But we’ve covered that ground already and will have to agree to disagree!

Complex water cargo regulation, laws, insurance, etc.?

Strange, that you recently weren’t able to acknowledge that there are such complex laws that could regulate water rights/obligations between different states, as between Russia and Ukraine in Crimea, not to mention fees and costs for transporting water. But you need not worry and correct yourself, for there may soon be a Russian solution to this problem, the obliteration of the Antonivka water dam, that will permanently prohibit the transport of Dnieper water to Crimea.

I recently criticized Israel for not providing Ukraine with defensive systems that could help shield civilians from Russian drone attacks within Ukrainian cities. Now I must retract my criticism and thank Israel for its recent successful attacks and destruction of Iranian drone assemble plants. THANK YOU ISRAEL!

Russia actively uses Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drones – repainted and renamed as Geran-2 – in its barbaric strikes at Ukraine aimed at destroying the Ukrainian energy infrastructure. There is a lot of evidence of this, as the Ukrainian Defense Forces have shot down about 250 of these UAVs. Nevertheless, Tehran consistently denies its involvement in the supply of drones to Russia for use against Ukraine. There is also a hypothesis that Russia obtains Iranian drones from Iran via third countries. If so, it is possible the Israeli missile attack hit the assembly of drones intended for further attacks on Ukraine.

https://www.ukrainianworldcongress.org/israeli-missile-attack-hits-iranian-drones-assembly-facility-in-syria/#:~:text=The%20operation%20that%20assembled%20Iranian,Rights%20(SOHR)%20reported%20today.

Then why turn the language issue into a loyalty test?

It wouldn’t be a loyalty test but more of a security issue for the future. They need more cohesion. So it cannot be used to stir up trouble from outside. Also, I believe the Ukrainians should have the right to decide these things without outsiders interfering. They are themselves switching to Ukrainian. There will de facto be Russian there and Russian will be used as lingua franca in the former Rus space. But given how things are going, the Russophone population will be reduced (most of the ones recently deported are Russian speakers). The problem is that that population will then be used by Russia to create new soldiers to attack Ukraine in the future, so it’s especially perverse. But it’s nothing new at all. And the areas in the East that could be still liberated will be depopulated and ruined.

Everybody in the Middle East thought Barak Obama was going to be the greatest thing and the first thing he did was multiply drone bombs in Arab countries by 5X.

That guy is going to do what the 100 top dogs in Britain tell him to do.

You have a right to question certain things. But there is a fine line. You can question what kind of assistance to deliver and how it is used, but I don’t think you can question internal policies (since the decision has already been made by the West to help).

No, we have the right to question everything, given that our economies are going to be wrecked, we are running a risk of nuclear war, and Ukraine expects long-term subsidies on a massive scale. There is no moral obligation to grant unconditional support under such circumstances. If Ukrainians decide to spit on the liberal “European values” for which they’re supposedly fighting according to the propaganda were bombarded with, if they decide to turn this into an ethnic war with all the revenge killings and expulsions this implies, they should look for another sponsor and see where it gets them. A country that dependent on foreign aid doesn’t have full sovereignty, full stop.

When you walk into a country with weapons in your hands in order to murder you have already chosen your destiny

Like when Latvians & the Polish invaded far away Iraq as part of the Coalition of the Willing?

(very ominous statements by Shoigu about Ukraine allegedly building a dirty bomb, one wonders what Russian intentions are here, are they planning something of the sort themselves?)

All these outraged claims from Ukrainians and Russians are tinged with very black humour for me, because whenever one side plausibly asserts the other side is planning on [something awful], you can virtually guarantee it as an indication they’ve also considered it themselves.

I have no idea which side did Bucha and honestly don’t care. Then the mutual threats of blowing up dams, nuclear powerplants, civilian infrastructure, shared hysterical accusations of genocide etc, etc. It’s all so tiresome…

Thanks for reminding me how awesome colonial America was.

Prouder than ever to be an American, which is why the American flag is the only flag I will ever fly.

Like when Latvians & the Polish invaded far away Iraq as part of the Coalition of the Willing?

Exactly. Since some of them were killed there and then they got on some revenge list from the Muslims. ISIS, I think. And then have to take crap from the likes of you 20 years later, which, imo, is the most terrible punishment. It’s better to be threatened by the ISIS than have to deal with German Putinoids.

I have no idea which side did Bucha and honestly don’t care.

tbh the account even in mainstream media like SPIEGEL doesn’t seem all that implausible to me (if you filter out some of the moralistic outrage and read somewhat between the lines)…the first Russian column that entered there was shot to pieces, and some civilians took part in the fighting. Frustrated at that setback and paranoid about irregular combatants the Russian troops which came subsequently took to detaining, torturing or just killing any civilians they suspected of being spies for the Ukrainian army or potential partisans. Added to that probably some raping and looting, or some murders just out of boredom and frustration, the sort of thing that happens with ill-disciplined troops. All very ugly, and if the Ukrainians can identify participants they may legitimately hold war crimes trials against them. The issue for me is that such incidents, appalling as they undoubtedly are, are used to argue that any kind of negotiations must be totally out of the question (you can’t negotiate with the modern-day equivalent of Hitler after all) and that Ukraine deserves totally unconditional support as a sacred victim of “genocide”. imo that’s just deeply manipulative and intended to make Ukraine’s supporters essentially hostages of Ukrainian domestic politics, which has its fair share of demented hardliners.

Of course, I’m not disputing that the situation is quite serious and even dire (probably the worst we’ve seen in our lives), and, if you so wish, you can continue to hold Ukrainians to a higher ethical standard than you will ever hold Russians to, that is your own complex, but don’t expect to not be called out on it.

There is no moral obligation to grant unconditional support under such circumstances.

As I said, you can question all you want. But you should take it to your own government, instead of trashing Ukrainians who are already having a very rough time.

I have no idea which side did Bucha and honestly don’t care. Then the mutual threats of blowing up dams, nuclear powerplants, civilian infrastructure, shared hysterical accusations of genocide etc, etc.

With one very very tiny detail – where is all this horrific “action” taking place? It’s not like the Ukrainians created or ever intended to create a massacre on the outskirts of Moscow…

So you think the atrocities should just be swept under the carpet? There are awful many of them by now. My words that I post here, for the most part, are very closely aligned with what a large percentage of Ukrainians believe (as well as a small group of the Russian nationalists who are on the side of Ukraine and Europe). We have a common outlook.

Short of an extremely powerful international (((lobby))) with tangible influence on government policy of the world’s most powerful countries, resentfully holding on to past grievances out of misplaced pride does nothing for a country.

Both before and after Armenia trounced Azerbaijan in the First Artsakh War, Ter-Petrosian in his first term tried normalising relations with Turkey. Of course they demanded downgrading the genocide to ‘disorganised massacres’ taking place in the context of chaotic environment. It was obviously rejected, and there were mass protests against any sort of negotiation at all. But the opportunity should have been taken for concessions while the country held a position of relative strength. The intransigence and tedious focus on the genocide got worse with later presidents.
If Ukraine’s leaders were smart, they’d be realistic enough about letting go of Crimea and Donbass, so they can end this war soon, on terms not totally dictated by foreign powers, allowing for eventual reproachment with Russia. But given the totally maximalist attitude of their largely foreign-owned government, not going to happen… instead recognising the Republic of Ichkeria, very bigbrain.

It might not be ‘fair’ but throwing out atrocity claims (true or not), endlessly harping on them, demanding their retribution just doesn’t make any sense unless you realistically expect your enemy’s unconditional surrender and total capitulation. Never happening short of a NATO-Ukrainian army occupying Moscow.
That made sense with post-WWII Germany, psychologically broken and dismembered, but notice even Japan refuses any ‘full’ apology or restitution for its warcrimes, on level with Germany’s, perhaps even worse on average. Korea is a rich country now and could let that it go, given now everyone who was involved is dead or wheelchair-bound, but they won’t either.

It sounds paradoxical, but I think this insistence on human rights often makes conflicts and relations worse and harder to heal.

than you will ever hold Russians to, that is your own complex

No, it’s simply rooted in the fact that Ukraine has gotten very substantial aid from my country (without showing much gratitude for it) and that this support has very negative consequences for my country. It the worst happens, possibly existential ones. I’m not particularly keen on being impoverished, let alone incinerated for any foreign country, but especially not if the military and political leaders of said foreign country make crazy statements about re-taking Crimea or removing the Russian language.
Honestly, I have to say I’m really stunned by the sense of entitlement that shines through in your comments, as also in those of many Ukrainians. It’s like you simply don’t understand that other people may have different interests than you and that you should at least make an effort to take those interests into account. No, yours is the side of light and right, and that’s all that matters, everyone has to give unconditional support.

No, it’s simply rooted in the fact that Ukraine has gotten very substantial aid from my country (without showing much gratitude for it) and that this support has very negative consequences for my country.

All countries that are helping are making a sacrifice. I can understand how sometimes one may not like their tone as it can be intense. Sometimes there is no filter.

But have you ever thought that all these economic problems actually started before the war in Ukraine? Sure, the war made it much worse now, but the inflation problem, and especially the issue of overpriced housing started much earlier. So there were already structural problems in the global economy that most likely would’ve surfaced in some type of a crisis.

And don’t pretend your elites didn’t know who Russia was. They just didn’t want to see it. Because it was convenient.

It’s like you simply don’t understand that other people may have different interests than you

It’s ok that you have different interests than us. I will certainly keep that in mind going forward. I wish though I had known that we have such differing interests before my family bought that expensive Audi.

You became very transparent, too, waving the EU flag and poking Ukraine with EU minority legislation (being an AfD voter yourself and despite that Ukraine is not even an EU member and at the time when in your own country centers where Ukrainian refugees live are being burned down, probably either by local Russians or AfD supporters, I understand the situation is tense and that there are way too many of them, but come on… ). It is more than clear now that you, Germans, only use this legislation to control others, not so much because you care about human rights. To be more precise, you may care about human rights and above all stability, but this is definitely an instrument of yours to use to push Eastern Euros around. It should be treated as such. And it’s pretty crazy how someone such as you, who is not the most tolerant person on the planet, would wave this around like that. Nationalism for me, but not for thee. As usual.

resentfully holding on to past grievances out of misplaced pride does nothing for a country.

You either misunderstood me or you’re deliberately looking past my point – I wasn’t talking about some mysterious “past grievances” but about the killing that is ongoing. The attacks on the civilian infrastructure that are happening right now, as we speak, many Ukrainians have no electricity.

But the opportunity should have been taken for concessions while the country held a position of relative strength. The intransigence and tedious focus on the genocide got worse with later presidents.

Of course, it is always better to have fewer tensions. But do you think Armenia’s position would significantly change just by making those concessions? You do not believe there may be deeper problems under the surface? Or are you thinking that you would just live on hating each other but not encounter a crisis and that would be livable.

If Ukraine’s leaders were smart, they’d be realistic enough about letting go of Crimea and Donbass, so they can end this war soon, on terms not totally dictated by foreign powers, allowing for eventual reproachment with Russia.

Rapprochement is very difficult to talk about right now, as there are constant attacks being carried out on Ukraine and they will not stop until there is a serious break in the war. The attacks may not even stop if the Russians are pushed out of Kherson, there could be attacks from Belarus (there are Iranian drone specialists in Belarus right now so there could be a drone attack on Western Ukraine). Rapprochement may not happen for a very long time.

It’s too early to talk about Donbas and Crimea. The issue with giving up territory is that, while you do get a frozen conflict, which is better than more deaths, eventually the next generation will be forced to fight again. The Ukrainians do not want to leave this war to their children.

It might not be ‘fair’ but throwing out atrocity claims (true or not), endlessly harping on them, demanding their retribution just doesn’t make any sense unless you realistically expect your enemy’s unconditional surrender and total capitulation.

In this kind of a thing, you should speak for yourself, because victims deserve justice. It’s easy to speak that way about other people’s children. If your people were victims, you would be ok to say – let us not seek justice. But do not speak that way about others. The Ukrainians will start with prosecuting those who they can, for crimes that they have already investigated.

in your own country centers where Ukrainian refugees live are being burned down, probably either by local Russians or AfD supporters

I don’t exclude the possibility that this happened, but unless it’s proven, it could be just as well a hoax, like many other alleged neo-Nazi attacks here (not that there haven’t been acts of violence, even murders, by neo-Nazis, especially in the 1990s and early 2000s, but there is also a long, long history of stories that turned out to be utterly fake, but were nevertheless promoted by the media, to justify the repression against any right-wing opposion, no matter how tame). It’s typical though that this is eagerly taken up and made a big stoy by Visegrad 24 and the like, yet more evidence that there is no common ground with the “based” Eastern Euros.

but this is definitely an instrument of yours to use to push Eastern Euros around.

Then leave. Frankly, as far as the Baltic states are concerned, you are nothing but a huge liability, in retrospect it’s absolutely clear that you should have never been admitted to either the EU or to NATO. You contribute nothing of worth, your only function is so that the very worst kind of American hegemonist can point to your statelets as evidence that their preferred policies enjoy support in Europe (which they actually don’t among most of the pre-1990 members of NATO, nor among many other Eastern Europeans).

Nationalism for me, but not for thee.

No, it’s exactly the reverse. You think you’re entitled to unconditional Western support for your little ethno-projects (including even bizarre larping like “Perun give us strength”) and for your manic hatreds, but you make zero effort to consider any wider interests and you readily resort to tactics of moral blackmail which are only reinforcing the ruling narratives. Terrible deal from any perspective.

It’s typical though that this is eagerly taken up and made a big stoy by Visegrad 24 and the like, yet more evidence that there is no common ground with the “based” Eastern Euros.

Normally I wouldn’t criticize AfD, but it sounds like you want to be hostile. Why would it be a fake?? It’s totally believable, I saw an AfD guy attack a chick with a flag of Ukraine. Who does that, burn down a whole house and endanger people…

I don’t even blame far-right Germans for being angry, it’s a tense situation all across, one shouldn’t be pushed to accept foreigners. I just don’t see how one can take it out on the vulnerable. If you’re unhappy with this you should take it to your own structures and your own countrymen instead of constantly shitting on Ukrainians.

You think you’re entitled to unconditional Western support for your little ethno-projects (including even bizarre larping like “Perun give us strength”)

I don’t support mainstream politics, btw. In the politics that I advocate, Western support may not be needed.

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— Cotswold Archaeology (@CotswoldArch) November 24, 2021

We’ll kill to protect the cow.
You won’t kill to practice cow slaughter.

The result’s already decided, Guru’s Hukam is final.

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i’m pretty sure the Germans are subsidizing Ukraine at the moment. Whether they like it or not.

Ukrainians really are a piece of work as you pointed out. They are giving Poles a run for the money.

Western Europe is a hostage.

Most of the help is from the US. Don’t forget others (Poland, Czech, Canada, etc).