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Already commented on it in the previous thread, Visegrad 24 now celebrating Polish “volunteers” taking part in the raid on Belgorod:
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-219/#comment-5993717
What’s their excuse exactly? Neither from a country that has been attacked by Russia nor Russian “dissidents”.
Turkey has impressive human capital by Middle Eastern standards and thus it would be a shame for a Russia who wins WWI not to try attempting something like this, especially if done on a voluntary basis:
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/10/national-intelli-basic-skills/
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/basic_skills_map-2048x969.png
And the unification agreement can have a clause that Constantinople and the Straits will return to Russia if Turkey will ever subsequently withdraw from this Greater Russian Federation.Replies: @Old Brown Fool
Good for them!
https://assets.deutschlandfunk.de/1fbcc4b0-c8fd-45b7-9771-fe2f8e10fd98/1280x720.jpg?t=1663058502356Replies: @German_reader, @Yahya, @Derer
But of course they're playing with fire, as they've done from the beginning. I don't see too much outrage in Russian TG channels though. Perhaps the idea that Russia if effectively fighting NATO sank in a long time ago and everybody's now concentrated on the actual Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Southeast, which could well be as successful as the one last year.
Only one thing is for certain: if some Russian politician utters some threat against Poland for this provocation many people in Eastern Europe will interpret it as further proof of Russia's imperialist threat and Western MSM will also report it as such, not having informed of the earlier Polish militants' incursion.Replies: @QCIC, @German_reader
Sorry. The prior thread became unstable. One partial post occurred and I could not delete it.
The new thread is appreciated.
Polling — Part I — National Election
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Figures don’t lie,
but liars do figure.
1884, Anonymous
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Some highly emotional #NeverTrump extremists used flawed science in the prior thread. Polling can fail in a number of ways. (1)
Let us break out three key factors:
-1- Funding/Sponsor
-2- Fabrication/Method
-3- Question Selection
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-1- Funding/Sponsor
National Public Radio [NPR] is both government funded and highly Globalist in its programming. Anything with NPR in its title is highly suspect. They spend money to push their Leftoid agenda. Accuracy is not well regarded.
In fact, all major U.S. networks (including post-Carlson Fox) — what I describe as the “Fake Stream Media” [FSM] — share this Globalist bias. Therefore, a #NeverTrump agenda is almost always present from those who are paying the bills.
There are a few smaller independent firms and true academic sponsors. However, they do not have the resources to produce results on a frequent basis.
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-2- Fabrication/Method
Are there ways to fabricate a more #NeverTrump outcome? Yes. Methods that align to this goal are easily available. The most common is sample selection. Three marks commonly seen are:
[A] Adults
[RV] Registered Voter
[LV] Likely Voter
LV is the most accurate method. RV is proven to be “Left” biased by 5-10%. The last method, A is prone to wild swings and thus less frequently seen outside of ultra quick turnaround, snap polls.
Polling firms claim that cost drives them to use less reliable RV rather than the better LV. And, this surface explanation has initial plausibility. However, if the intent of the funder and polling firm is to be accurate:
Why not adjust the RV results for known bias RV/LV?
The answer is intuitively clear. Those paying for the poll want numbers to promote their agenda. The known inaccuracy is thus left in as an element of deception.
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-3- Question Selection
The event that actually impacts peoples lives is, “Who will win in November 2024?” Unless the No Label crowd manages to generate a credible third party (highly unlikely) the U.S. 2024 race will be in the two party system paradigm.
Therefore, the best way to structure questions is, “Which will you vote for — A or B?” Volunteered answers like ‘write in’ or ‘will not vote’ are valid responses, but this question reflects the duality of the actual impending choice.
There are built in problems with question selection where there is — “Do you approve of A?” And then a separate, “Do you approve of B?”
-A- Voting action is determinative, not the emotional state of approval. People will vote against their feeling if there is sufficient perceived need.
-B- Polling for one-sided emotional state misses the inherent two-sided choice.
-C- One sided emotional questions can be displayed without the other half, thus intentionally creating an deceptive presentation. This is a very NPR technique.
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Highly emotional #NeverTrump hatred was seen on display in the prior thread. The poster claimed to be “data driven” but was actually 180° the opposite. The distraught reality denier sought out badly worded questions, flawed methodology, and corrupt sources. Then displayed this obvious intellectual failure to rage against America’s past & future President.
Will Independents follow their wallets?
History shows this is likely. Many independents will vote against Not-The-President Biden for his wrecking of the American economy. By process of elimination, this creates votes for Trump, despite any less than positive emotional approval state of him as a person.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.healthpolldatabase.org/understanding-health-polling/what-is-a-push-poll/
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Correction — I misused the term “push polling” in the prior thread. While the cited NPR poll was misleading, it did not meet the technical criteria to be a push poll. I should have stuck with my first instinctive label, propaganda.
Age related solidarity – one senior somewhat sympathizing with other senior experiencing senior type of accident;)
Last night, 3 June was a full moon. A full moon will negate the Ukrainians advantage in night vision (main subject of British training). In two weeks there will be no moon. That’s when the big attack should come, plus or minus a few days. Also there will be longer hours of daylight to operate logistics.
In the next two weeks, expect some feints by Ukraine to churn up the Russian reserves and perhaps even a couple of feints from Russia.
Battle of the Nations
Ukraine Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIzpyF6DMis&ab_channel=Roland-Garros
The Ukraine player apparently does not speak Ukrainian. She is from Odessa and lives in London. Gross grunts.
The crowd went W I L D.
1. British had huge advantage over Nazis in cryptography and photogrammetry - as shown in the absence of interception of any western allied communications, plentiful Nazi messages intercepted ( I think Britain fed the Nazis false intelligence leading them to send men to the wrong beach)............and aerial reconnaissance and the photogrammetry techniques used from them giving Britain full knowledge of where all the fortifications and weapons installations along the coast ...including those best hidden /camouflaged on 2d camera image.
English Channel crossing is 30-50km? I don't know much about those particular waters, but am always hearing about people regularly swimming across there, absence of any shipwrecks , africans/arab refugees sailing across there............are they that difficult waters for a mass-scale amphibious landing? Western allies heavily outnumbered those defending Nazi positions around the coast.
Nazi's had control of Channel Islands for all of the war ( unbelievably) - you would think that early warning position would eliminate the possibility of western allies trying to land at much of the french coast
So with all those conditions, you would think less the requirement to start invasion on the night of the full moon - giving the Nazis maximum use of one of the few advantages they had........and more to use the darkness given the enhanced knowledge of the enemy positions and installations . But they didn't - because your full moon is bad theory is a load of c*ap - certainly as an isolated factor to make such a decision.Replies: @Lurker
The Ukrainian offensive appears to be starting. Or maybe it’s just one of the feints that Phillip mentioned above.
In the next two weeks, expect some feints by Ukraine to churn up the Russian reserves and perhaps even a couple of feints from Russia.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Gerard1234, @John Johnson
75-25 nothing happens.
Battle of the Nations
Ukraine Russia
The Ukraine player apparently does not speak Ukrainian. She is from Odessa and lives in London. Gross grunts.
The crowd went W I L D.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-219/#comment-5993717
What's their excuse exactly? Neither from a country that has been attacked by Russia nor Russian "dissidents".Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ, @Pixo, @Mikel
That whole region is a part of Poland’s historic sphere of influence due to the PLC lol.
And you expect to be taken seriously....:)Replies: @German_reader, @Boethiuss
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-219/#comment-5993717
What's their excuse exactly? Neither from a country that has been attacked by Russia nor Russian "dissidents".Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ, @Pixo, @Mikel
BTW, off-topic, but here is a question for you: Had Russia remained in WWI up to the very end and avoided the Bolshevik coup, and also gotten Constantinople and the Straits after the end of WWI, is there any chance that it could have used them as a bargaining chip in order to get Turkey to join a reformed Greater Russian Federation as its own separate federal unit? As in, give Turkey Constantinople and the Straits back, but only contingent on Turkey actually agreeing to join a reformed Greater Russian Federation as its own separate federal unit.
Turkey has impressive human capital by Middle Eastern standards and thus it would be a shame for a Russia who wins WWI not to try attempting something like this, especially if done on a voluntary basis:
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/10/national-intelli-basic-skills/
And the unification agreement can have a clause that Constantinople and the Straits will return to Russia if Turkey will ever subsequently withdraw from this Greater Russian Federation.
In general, how successful Russia would be in taking a non- Caucasian, non- Mongol, dark people, probably 25% of its population, as its constituent?Replies: @Mr. XYZ
Ukraine is biding its time. Just like the Anglo-French tried to do during the Phoney War over 80 years ago.
The Ukies will be ordered to attack and be bloodied. The neo-cons have been buying time by using Ukie lives because they can't face the reality of losing. Once that option is gone, the real hysteria will begin...Replies: @Greasy William, @Boethiuss
That ended quite badly a few months later for the French.
The Ukies will be ordered to attack and be bloodied. The neo-cons have been buying time by using Ukie lives because they can’t face the reality of losing. Once that option is gone, the real hysteria will begin…
The neocons have some juice in that they have some influence in the Biden Administration and the Biden Administration has sent lots of kit to Ukraine. But the will to fight is coming from the Ukrainians. There's nobody in the US ordering them to do anything.
When offensive does start, Russia is going to fold quickly. Like you said they are spread out to thin. And there is no tactical or strategic necessity for Ukraine to attack any particular fortification.Replies: @Derer, @Beckow
What was the first movie where humans teamed up with aliens to kill humans? Enemy Mine?
Roman phenotypes:
The Ukies will be ordered to attack and be bloodied. The neo-cons have been buying time by using Ukie lives because they can't face the reality of losing. Once that option is gone, the real hysteria will begin...Replies: @Greasy William, @Boethiuss
I don’t think there is going to be an offensive. It sounds like the probing attacks today failed catastrophically. This conflict has been WWI’ified where the only way to take territory is to use “bite and chew” tactics; which appear to be all either army is capable of carrying out anyway.
the statue on the bottom right looks like Ron DeSantis
Anatoly Karlin ostensibly advocates in favor of open borders but doesn’t believe that Kyrgyz and Tajiks (people who have lived in the same country as Russians for 100+ years) are capable of successfully integrating into Russian society:
https://www.sotwe.com/powerfultakes?lang=en
How exactly the open borders experiment is supposed to work with such logic is a total mystery to me.
Also, just because some or even many intellectuals support something does not mean that this thing is inevitable. Some or even many Western intellectuals supported Communism during the 20th century, no? And yet by and large (East Germany is an exception to the general trend/rule here, and was itself only the result of Soviet troops staying there for almost half a century) Communists never actually came to power in the West. So, if Communism in the West was not inevitable, why exactly should we assume that open borders is inevitable? Especially in light of the obvious problems that it poses, such as higher crime rates and people getting murdered for Islamophobic speech?
Any future statue of Ron Desantis will be in Israel, he will be kneeling before a Rabbi while felating him.
Meatball Ron's future is in some think tank making an obscene amount of money for the way he took one for the team by launching this suicide run for the PresidencyReplies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Joe Paluka
Judaism doesn’t allow homosexual acts.
Meatball Ron’s future is in some think tank making an obscene amount of money for the way he took one for the team by launching this suicide run for the Presidency
Alas, you are probably correct. DeSantis looks more like a Ukie Maximalist tool every day. Polling -- Part II -- Florida Primary
Are all polls bad? No.
For example, the Sunshine State Battleground poll (Rich Baris/Big Data Polling) is:
-- An independent source
-- Asking better questions
It shares the RV/LV limitation. However, that distinction is less relevant to primaries. The underlying data is available here.(1)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Florida-Trump-vs-DeSantis-.jpg
The result is grim for anti-MAGA candidate DeSantis. (2) DeRINO is the establishment's #1 shot to defeat MAGA. And, they know it is not working. One can be sure that the emotionally distraught #NeverTrump cultists will come up with outbursts and intentionally flawed statistics in an desperate attempt to refute reality.
The bottom line is that Republican voters want MAGA, not establishment friendly DeSantis.
PEACE 😇
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(1)
https://application.marketsight.com/app/ItemView.aspx?SharedFor=public%40bigdatapoll.com&SharedBy=34090&id=80b29036-177d-4c5e-ac48-b016001eb1e9
(2) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/03/big-data-poll-president-trump-crushing-governor-desantis-by-20-points-in-florida-after-home-state-campaign-launch/
https://forward.com/news/371280/how-rabbis-are-trying-to-make-the-conservative-movement-more-gay-friendly/
"Your relationships and marriages are all cool, but please don't poke each other in the butt lol! Even though we allow opposite-sex couples and lesbians (strap-ons) to poke each other in the butts lol!"
From Anatoly Crimeus* Karlin (Anatoly Krym* Karlin): I guess that this means that Russia should not have tried to reintegrate Ukraine because both Russia's and Ukraine's cognitive elites were more hostile towards this idea than Russian and Ukrainian proles were, right?
*Technically Krym translates to Crimea, but Krym is masculine while Crimea is feminine, hence Crimeus instead. I will begin referring to him as such due to his past Russian nationalism lol.Replies: @German_reader
https://theculturetrip.com/middle-east/israel/articles/why-tel-aviv-is-one-of-the-most-lgbt-friendly-cities-in-the-world/
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/Replies: @Greasy William
Meatball Ron's future is in some think tank making an obscene amount of money for the way he took one for the team by launching this suicide run for the PresidencyReplies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Joe Paluka
I keep hoping it is all a trick and he is going to endorse Trump after draining establishment coffers.
Alas, you are probably correct. DeSantis looks more like a Ukie Maximalist tool every day.
Polling — Part II — Florida Primary
Are all polls bad? No.
For example, the Sunshine State Battleground poll (Rich Baris/Big Data Polling) is:
— An independent source
— Asking better questions
It shares the RV/LV limitation. However, that distinction is less relevant to primaries. The underlying data is available here.(1)
The result is grim for anti-MAGA candidate DeSantis. (2)
DeRINO is the establishment’s #1 shot to defeat MAGA. And, they know it is not working. One can be sure that the emotionally distraught #NeverTrump cultists will come up with outbursts and intentionally flawed statistics in an desperate attempt to refute reality.
The bottom line is that Republican voters want MAGA, not establishment friendly DeSantis.
PEACE 😇
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(1)
https://application.marketsight.com/app/ItemView.aspx?SharedFor=public%40bigdatapoll.com&SharedBy=34090&id=80b29036-177d-4c5e-ac48-b016001eb1e9
(2) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/03/big-data-poll-president-trump-crushing-governor-desantis-by-20-points-in-florida-after-home-state-campaign-launch/
What’s interesting is just how much Ukrainian attitudes on NATO have shifted since 2008-2009, which was just 14-15 years ago:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/127094/ukrainians-likely-support-move-away-nato.aspx


Even by ex-USSR standards, Ukrainians back then were extraordinarily hostile towards NATO:
This slightly changed by 2013 but not by too much:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/167927/crisis-ukrainians-likely-nato-threat.aspx


This is why Ukrainian NATO membership back in 2008 was unrealistic.
FWIW, in 2013, the EU was more popular than NATO in central Ukraine:

So the debt ceiling has not only been raised but its now the “sky is the limit!”
This movement by the corporate congress bodes of dark times ahead in the world, why do you need limitless cash? I can only think of two, you either want to collapse the system or you are going to war.
Both situations only mean a lot of us are going to die for the one percentage point.
You don’t fight you lose!
From Anatoly Karlin:
So, Communism was moral back when elite human capital supported it?
Plenty of Leftists are also Western Supremacists, at least insofar as Western Supremacism means supporting Ukraine against Russia and also EU and possibly NATO expansion into Ukraine. Supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia means supporting a larger, more powerful, and more influential West, after all.
Karlin is playing a Nietzsche-like role, in that he's "lifting the lid" so to speak on modern middle class culture and peering inside, saying aloud what is supposed to be hush hush.
This kind of thinking stretches back to the Middle Ages and ushered in the modern period, the idea that the good isn't intrinsic but just whatever God happens to wants - the elites playing the role of God for Karlin, of course. It's basically the worship of Power.
Even though it seems like Karlin has changed, he's never claimed to have any principle other than Power. Many immature people make the mistake of thinking hyper-macho posturing is power, when it is a sign of decadence, so his initial support for Russia was unsurprising. But Karlin was honest enough to learn that macho posturing indicates weakness and change course. Many people still think Macho Islam or someone like Sher Singh represent power rather than decadence, and never advance beyond that.
But Karlin has remained consistent throughout his morphology and has always worshipped the same principle wherever he felt it was best expressed.
I'm actually super impressed with how honest and consistent Karlin is willing to be, without any of the hypocrisies or compromises or incoherencies and r halfway-houses of most secular atheists, and I'm curious where his journey will take him personally. He's willing to follow the logic of modernity to the end.
As a society, I think the nihilistic worship of Power is leading to self-destruction, and I wonder if Karlin will save himself from the shipwreck or go down with the boat.
A curious case, Karlin, and I'll continue watching.
https://www.deloitte.com/an/en/about/press-room/deloitte-research-reveals-inaction-on-climate-change-could-cost-the-world-economy-us-dollar-178-trillion-by-2070.html
https://climatechampions.unfccc.int/whats-the-cost-of-net-zero-2/
https://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/overview/in-the-news/what-it-will-cost-to-get-to-net-zero
This is no accident, the scamdemic was no accident, the pathway is clear we are heading for war for the one percentage point.
Though maybe one can argue that wanting a larger West is not Western Supremacism per se if one opposes Western imperialism (in addition to opposing Russian, Chinese, et cetera imperialism as well).
I found some interesting information about the total fertility rate in Israel which is falling.
Total fertility rate is a very primitive and inaccurate model of fertility rate,* but it is popular as a primitive kind of early prediction of fertility rate.
The most recent data is for 2020, but it is released only in 2022. Total fertility rate falls to 2,9 children per women.
The highest fertility rates are Bedouin Arab women and Haredi women.
Total Jewish women – 3,01
Total Arab women (including Arab Christians) – 2,82
Unclassified women – 1,35 (mostly Russian-speakers i.e. postsoviet Jews)
Muslim Arab women – 2,99
Average age of first birth for Muslim women – 24,5 years old
Average age of first birth for Jewish women – 30,5 years old
Women in the highest rating socio-economicaly – 1,95 (high proportion would be wealthy American immigrants)
Women in the lowest rating socio-economicaly – 5,36 (high proportion will be Bedouin)
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Interpretation?
The demographics in Israel could be more Bedouin and Haredi in the future. But the overall balance between Jews and Muslims might not be changing so much.
Arab Christians and Russian-speakers have the highest school results in Israel and lowest fertility rates, so there is some Rorschach test for journalists’ interpretations. E.g. maybe Arab Christians have the highest academic results in Israel partly, because they have smaller families.
Postsoviet Jews or Jewish roots peoples’ low fertility rates probably doesn’t need much explanation, it is the same as national level the origin countries.
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*It tries to predict the fertility rate will be if the risk of having a children for the women according to the age-specific fertility rates would be constant across time, measured at rates of the specific year.
It doesn’t reflect what would be the fertility rate of any real women, as the real woman is not moving through the age-specific fertility rates of one particular year (unless she would be a type of time-traveler).
The Israeli left may be even more odious than the Western left. At least the Western left owns that they are a bunch of worthless cosmopolitans, the Israeli left actually attempts to use Judaism itself to attack the haredim. And they had no problem allying with the haredim for decades to wage their war on the settlers. Awful people.Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry, @Yevardian
To be honest, I don’t think postsoviet border conflict between Russia and Ukraine is so important globally.
There is historical legacy of the Cold War which is influencing the media and geopolitical hype of the war. This is a lot of marketing hype though. Especially, Putin invested a lot of money to marketing and media trolling.
But we shouldn’t confuse marketing hype with the real history. Globally, in the balance of power, possibly it could be more like a category of Iran-Iraq war in 1980s history.
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Ukraine going into EU will possibly weaken and downgrade the EU’s average level of development, but it’s a good opportunity for Ukraine to develop, so the net balance for the EU’s power might be similar after than before.
However, even Ukraine as quite large country developing, is probably not significant in the global view. It would just be like 2 times version of Romania, in the best opportunity of following Romania which has the most rapid development in the EU.
Russia is only slightly larger than Spain economically, but shared with three times more population, so the influence of isolation will not be so negative for the world’s economy.
The questions for the future of the century, seem more questions like how countries like China and India will develop. Do you think China could have a cultural renaissance in the 2050s? Will India industrialize?
Russia's economy is Germany's size in PPP terms. And I hope that a reformed post-Putin Russia would eventually itself seek to join the EU. Though it would have to come to terms with its guilt for the Ukraine War and pay reparations to Ukraine beforehand, along with likely reducing its level of corruption down to Polish levels.
China already exports some of its culture. Netflix has some Chinese animated and 3D shows even right now, for instance. And Yes, I don't see why exactly India wouldn't continue to industrialize. I expect India to ultimately converge to Bulgaria's or Romania's level of development. But this would likely be by the end of the 21st century, unless of course AI will massively speed up the process for India.Replies: @Dmitry
There are two countries today that have historically made monumental and unique contributions to world culture, Iran and China, but under their current configurations and under their current regimes are obviously incapable of producing anything of cultural significance.
By 2050 it’s entirely possible that the current Chinese regime, which is Legalist, will be replaced by a regime more inspired by the philosophy traditionally associated with cultural efflorescence in China, as in the Tang period – I mean, of course, Taoism.
Nothing good ever comes from China unless China is under significant Taoist influence, and traditionally Legalist regimes are the shortest lasting and the most culturally sterile, for obvious reasons, and China’s current Legalist regime shows signs of serious strain, as is inevitable when you try and suppress the human spirit.
It will be fascinating to see how the Chinese develop in new directions the most fruitful aspects of their traditional culture, when finally given the chance to resume their old ways again, and it will be a great benefit to the entire world.
As for Iran, here is a passage from one of my favorite travel writer’s recent book, the wonderful Pico Iyer –
We forget how many of Islam’s greatest poets and Sufis were Persian, Rumi, Hafiz, etc.
A country with such people still has an interesting cultural future ahead of it, even if it currently languishes under a sterile tyranny.
It could’ve been higher under a monarchic or democratic counterfactual, but that’s not to say nothing was produced.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Have you sampled much Iranian culture?
Except for the fact that it was very schmaltzy, I though "Children of Heaven" (1997) had an interesting anti-materialist message. Still the only Iranian movie I've seen.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Total Jewish women - 3,01
Total Arab women (including Arab Christians) - 2,82Unclassified women - 1,35 (mostly Russian-speakers i.e. postsoviet Jews)
Muslim Arab women - 2,99 Average age of first birth for Muslim women - 24,5 years old
Average age of first birth for Jewish women - 30,5 years oldWomen in the highest rating socio-economicaly - 1,95 (high proportion would be wealthy American immigrants)
Women in the lowest rating socio-economicaly - 5,36 (high proportion will be Bedouin)-
Interpretation? The demographics in Israel could be more Bedouin and Haredi in the future. But the overall balance between Jews and Muslims might not be changing so much. Arab Christians and Russian-speakers have the highest school results in Israel and lowest fertility rates, so there is some Rorschach test for journalists' interpretations. E.g. maybe Arab Christians have the highest academic results in Israel partly, because they have smaller families. Postsoviet Jews or Jewish roots peoples' low fertility rates probably doesn't need much explanation, it is the same as national level the origin countries.
-*It tries to predict the fertility rate will be if the risk of having a children for the women according to the age-specific fertility rates would be constant across time, measured at rates of the specific year.It doesn’t reflect what would be the fertility rate of any real women, as the real woman is not moving through the age-specific fertility rates of one particular year (unless she would be a type of time-traveler).Replies: @Greasy William
The Israeli left spergs non stop about the haredi birthrate and yet never says anything about the Arab Islamic birthrate. The latter group is bigger and more hostile to the state than the haredi are. If the Haredim are a demographic threat to the state, then so are the Arab Muslims. Yet the Israel left never says a word about them.
The Israeli left may be even more odious than the Western left. At least the Western left owns that they are a bunch of worthless cosmopolitans, the Israeli left actually attempts to use Judaism itself to attack the haredim. And they had no problem allying with the haredim for decades to wage their war on the settlers. Awful people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Israeli Muslims aren't a demographic threat any longer. The Haredim, though, very much are, specifically due to their lack of economic and military usefulness combined with their bigotry.
- When the political extracting fails, the population can be often disobedient and cause a problem for local authorities. On the other hand, Haredim are real pacifists (except to their own community), which have low crime. They create very safe areas, with a nice atmosphere. So, in small numbers, they are good neighbors. You can't say they are completely negative community. But the effect, of large numbers, is untested. Many Arab areas in Israel have high crime, dysfunction and sometimes contribution to the jihadist terrorism. But the higher crime in the Arab areas is also because the underinvestment in the Arab community, by Israel. So, there is not a simple history, with only one side responsible. Bedouin areas of Israel with the fertility rates of 8 children per women, are also rapidly destroying their own ecology and not sustainable. The Bedouin would need to choose between the ecology which depends for traditional life, or the 8 children per women. Which "Israeli left"? Secular people who pay the taxes, are joining the army for combat units, who pay tuition fee for university, who sometimes logically say they are carrying the country?Immigrants in Israel receive free university, after avoiding the army. Arabs receive a lot of affirmative action scholarships after avoiding the army. Haredim have free money from the government for their own incorrect studies. But the local Israelis have to pay the complete cost for university, even after they were working in the army for free. Who "wage their war on the settlers"? Some of the settlements extract disproportionately large part of the budget, while some of the small hats are operating Messianic cults which is remind of Mormons. A lot of Israel (not just Arab areas) is very underinvested in terms of the infrastructure and housing. But then there are some of the small hats' settlements with American style of infrastructure, swimming pools etc. It's partly indication of state capture by messianic cults, which can be more organized than the normal citizens. These are not internationally recognized land of Israel. So in the long term part of this will be lost investment, as even after land swaps the parts of the settlements would need to be evacuated, like in 1982 and 2005. This is part of the problem of the proportional representation democracy. If there are highly motivated cult groups, they use coalition government to hijack for their lifestyle which has superficial rational appearance, but a disguise for messianic cults. So, they are friendly middle class communities, with "good people" "patriotic values". They don't have dysfunctional lifestyle and seem healthy in many ways. They have positive values, like the community strength, care for the disabled people etc. But the location of their lifestyle can be selfish, irresponsible. In the long term, it can be political disaster for the country. -Settlements in Israel often like the Moscow of infrastructure. You know there is something strange, when they have clean streets, large villages, swimming pools. And by comparison, hard working area of Israel is decaying with underinvestment and small apartments. Then even secular institutions in the West Bank, can be like crazy multi-billion dollar investments. They then use billion dollars West Bank universities to educate the Palestinians in the internationally non-recognized territory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSI7AjPWfMWhile the same country with these multi-billion dollar investments in legally not accepted land, cannot pay for the earthquake retrofitting of the core population in land they own.Replies: @silviosilver
Since true scum of the earth Naftali Bennet got elected to state leadership a few years ago it was just too much and I gave up on Israeli society generally, I couldn't even read about it anymore. Settlers are the future there.Under ordinary circumstances, regular Israelis would rather have nothing to do with the occupied territories, stay behind their 'Security Wall' and leave it at that, its the settlers and their incessant chimpouts and provocations that make it an unending domestic and international headache.But I will leave this topic to Dmitry, I'm uncertain you're worth arguing with on this.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry
The problem with Iran is in their DNA, not their system of government. Junk people produce junk societies.
The problem with China and Iran is the same problem with everywhere in the world these days, the wrong priorities and values - the problem is spiritual and one of personal agency.
A place does not become like China or Iran unless it is deeply spiritually corrupt, and has willingly adopted the wrong priorities. But then the same can be said of America and Europe.
So who will change first? My guess is America, one of the epicenters of the disease.
There would probably be no Jews left today without the Persian friendly and loving help. Of course nobody expects some gratitude from the Jewish people. When the time is right they always switch sides and do some backstabbing against those who helped and protected them. This is a recurring historical pattern.
Also, for an anti-American Jew, you are still typically ignorant of the historical context as most Americans are. That makes me think you are just a disgruntled American. Perhaps you should come to terms with your American personality, fuse it harmoniously with your Jewishness, embrace some funny Haredi cult (the Na-nach would do), get married and live a happy life fathering a dozen children and dying a respected patriarch?
https://youtu.be/gSoMvDJyp0wReplies: @silviosilver, @S, @Greasy William
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-219/#comment-5993717
What's their excuse exactly? Neither from a country that has been attacked by Russia nor Russian "dissidents".Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ, @Pixo, @Mikel
There are volunteers from at least 20 White nations defending Free Christian Europe against Putin’s Islamo-Oriental hordes and prison-recruited rapist-mercenaries.
Good for them!
I am seriously confused by these EE right wingers who are backing Ukraine. I can understand why right wing Ukrainians back their government (even though I personally would enthusiastically collaborate with a Russian invasion of the USA) but why are right wing Poles and Balts supporting Ukraine? Don’t they see that the West is only funding and supplying this war to spread LGBT?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemmaReplies: @Gerard1234
I don’t think the problem with Iran is just the government, I’m not an Enlightenment institutional determinist like our good Dmitry, but I’m even less a genetic determinist – I’m not really any kind of determinist, I believe in personal agency and spiritual freedom, having overcome modernity in myself.
The problem with China and Iran is the same problem with everywhere in the world these days, the wrong priorities and values – the problem is spiritual and one of personal agency.
A place does not become like China or Iran unless it is deeply spiritually corrupt, and has willingly adopted the wrong priorities. But then the same can be said of America and Europe.
So who will change first? My guess is America, one of the epicenters of the disease.
Iranians are Amalek. That nation is eternally accursed. That’s why it’s losing all of its water and why Iranians have stopped reproducing. All those hung at Nuremberg were reincarnated Iranians.
Of course, it’s better not to hate them and we shouldn’t seek war with them (even though it’s inevitable), but there is no point in us denying what they fundamentally are.
Don't be a fundamentalist literalist Jew, like some Jewish Protestant :) That's a modern perversion.
As for Iran, look, I get it, the place is a very dark place right now. Pico Iyer goes on to detail the corrosive paranoia and stifling oppression of modern Iran. All the most rotten people today admire Iran - look at the rest of this website.
But it's always important to distinguish between the people and their rulers, at least to some extent. And it's always important to take the widest possible historical view and humanistic view.
Ancient Persia made one of the most crucial contributions to world religion - Zoroastrianism had a huge influence on the Jews, and through them the Christians and Muslims. Persian dualism needed to be qualified and put into a larger context of unity, but it was an important deepening of monotheism.
And according to Pico Iyer, paradise is a Persian invention. Perhaps, but they certainly made contributions to the development of that seminal concept.
Interest rates in the West are heading north, Germany is in recession, last time there was a collapse into recession then depression we had world war.
This is no accident, the scamdemic was no accident, the pathway is clear we are heading for war for the one percentage point.
Good for them!
https://assets.deutschlandfunk.de/1fbcc4b0-c8fd-45b7-9771-fe2f8e10fd98/1280x720.jpg?t=1663058502356Replies: @German_reader, @Yahya, @Derer
Nafo cretins should be put down like the rabid little dogs they pose as.
The Israeli left may be even more odious than the Western left. At least the Western left owns that they are a bunch of worthless cosmopolitans, the Israeli left actually attempts to use Judaism itself to attack the haredim. And they had no problem allying with the haredim for decades to wage their war on the settlers. Awful people.Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry, @Yevardian
Haredis come across as quite parasitical (dodging military service, devoting themselves to useless, obscurantist studies). Maybe it would be a solution, if the state confiscated their every 2nd child and educated them as productive citizens.
I agree haredi men should work but serving in the IDF is out of the question. The haredim never asked for the state to be created in the first place and they don't care if it continues to exist or not. They have no obligation to fight to protect such a state. The IDF has no manpower problems and literally the only reason anyone wants a haredi draft is to turn haredi boys into secular Zionists and thereby destroy haredi society.
Also, while it is true that military service is mandatory for all Israeli Jews, combat service is not. You can easily serve your entire term as a mechanic, cook, writer or whatever. So even if the haredim were drafted (which will never happen, it would cause a civil war) the haredim still wouldn't be helping defend Israel. All that would happen is they would get some free job training because no haredi would ever volunteer to join a combat unit.Replies: @Dmitry, @German_reader
Turkey has impressive human capital by Middle Eastern standards and thus it would be a shame for a Russia who wins WWI not to try attempting something like this, especially if done on a voluntary basis:
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/10/national-intelli-basic-skills/
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/basic_skills_map-2048x969.png
And the unification agreement can have a clause that Constantinople and the Straits will return to Russia if Turkey will ever subsequently withdraw from this Greater Russian Federation.Replies: @Old Brown Fool
Could the old Russian empire have held such a thing as the old Turkish empire as its constituent unit? Turkey then was not a compact nation-state, but an empire in its own right, even if Europeans have started gnawing many parts. It was probably more populous than the core Russian areas.
In general, how successful Russia would be in taking a non- Caucasian, non- Mongol, dark people, probably 25% of its population, as its constituent?
Turkey's population in 1920 was around 13 million:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Turkey
Greater Russia's population back then, even excluding Poland, was likely 10+ times larger than that. So, back then, Turkey could have likely been absorbed by a Greater Russia relatively easily in demographic terms. Turkey's population would have subsequently exploded, of course, but so would Greater Russia's without both Communism and Nazism, so the effect would not be as severe as it would be with Greater Russia's real life 20th century extreme demographic devastation.
If it comes back, it will be a plc.
Iranians are also Aryans. Just reminding.
In general, how successful Russia would be in taking a non- Caucasian, non- Mongol, dark people, probably 25% of its population, as its constituent?Replies: @Mr. XYZ
Please keep in mind that this is in the context of an Entente WWI victory, so the Ottomans are still getting dismembered. The Ottomans’ Arab provinces still become Western mandates (protectorates or colonies, really). It’s only their Turkish and maybe some of their Kurdish territories that would become a constituent unit of Russia proper. Even with their Kurdish territories, an independent, pro-Russian Kurdistan could be more profitable for Russia, so that might leave only the Ottomans’ Turkish territories. And of course eastern Anatolia would become a part of an Armenian federal unit within a reformed, ideally democratic Greater Russia, but that part should be obvious, I hope.
Turkey’s population in 1920 was around 13 million:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Turkey
Greater Russia’s population back then, even excluding Poland, was likely 10+ times larger than that. So, back then, Turkey could have likely been absorbed by a Greater Russia relatively easily in demographic terms. Turkey’s population would have subsequently exploded, of course, but so would Greater Russia’s without both Communism and Nazism, so the effect would not be as severe as it would be with Greater Russia’s real life 20th century extreme demographic devastation.
The Israeli left may be even more odious than the Western left. At least the Western left owns that they are a bunch of worthless cosmopolitans, the Israeli left actually attempts to use Judaism itself to attack the haredim. And they had no problem allying with the haredim for decades to wage their war on the settlers. Awful people.Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry, @Yevardian
In 2021, Israeli Jews actually had a *higher* TFR than Israeli Muslims had:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Israeli Muslims aren’t a demographic threat any longer. The Haredim, though, very much are, specifically due to their lack of economic and military usefulness combined with their bigotry.
Incorporating Ukraine into the EU will weaken the EU in the short-run but probably strengthen the EU in the long-run due to greater economies of scale. And of course the EU would become a bit more nationalistic with Ukraine included in it.
Russia’s economy is Germany’s size in PPP terms. And I hope that a reformed post-Putin Russia would eventually itself seek to join the EU. Though it would have to come to terms with its guilt for the Ukraine War and pay reparations to Ukraine beforehand, along with likely reducing its level of corruption down to Polish levels.
China already exports some of its culture. Netflix has some Chinese animated and 3D shows even right now, for instance. And Yes, I don’t see why exactly India wouldn’t continue to industrialize. I expect India to ultimately converge to Bulgaria’s or Romania’s level of development. But this would likely be by the end of the 21st century, unless of course AI will massively speed up the process for India.
The Israeli left may be even more odious than the Western left. At least the Western left owns that they are a bunch of worthless cosmopolitans, the Israeli left actually attempts to use Judaism itself to attack the haredim. And they had no problem allying with the haredim for decades to wage their war on the settlers. Awful people.Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry, @Yevardian
Israeli peoples’ fear of Haredim (people with big hats) and National Religious (people with small hats), is not exactly completely illogical or unjustified.
Haredi men and Muslim women have the lowest employment rate in Israel. Haredim and Muslims have similar dysfunctional policies like high inbreeding rates.
In proportional representation government, Haredi politicians extract a lot of things which damage the population, like closing of the public transport for Friday, which has negative effects for everyone.
They also damage the country’s budget, with funding for incorrect religious studies and mythologies. A lot of the Haredim hate Israel and some groups burn the flag.
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When the political extracting fails, the population can be often disobedient and cause a problem for local authorities.
On the other hand, Haredim are real pacifists (except to their own community), which have low crime. They create very safe areas, with a nice atmosphere. So, in small numbers, they are good neighbors.
You can’t say they are completely negative community. But the effect, of large numbers, is untested.
Many Arab areas in Israel have high crime, dysfunction and sometimes contribution to the jihadist terrorism. But the higher crime in the Arab areas is also because the underinvestment in the Arab community, by Israel. So, there is not a simple history, with only one side responsible.
Bedouin areas of Israel with the fertility rates of 8 children per women, are also rapidly destroying their own ecology and not sustainable. The Bedouin would need to choose between the ecology which depends for traditional life, or the 8 children per women.
Which “Israeli left”? Secular people who pay the taxes, are joining the army for combat units, who pay tuition fee for university, who sometimes logically say they are carrying the country?
Immigrants in Israel receive free university, after avoiding the army. Arabs receive a lot of affirmative action scholarships after avoiding the army. Haredim have free money from the government for their own incorrect studies. But the local Israelis have to pay the complete cost for university, even after they were working in the army for free.
Who “wage their war on the settlers”? Some of the settlements extract disproportionately large part of the budget, while some of the small hats are operating Messianic cults which is remind of Mormons.
A lot of Israel (not just Arab areas) is very underinvested in terms of the infrastructure and housing. But then there are some of the small hats’ settlements with American style of infrastructure, swimming pools etc.
It’s partly indication of state capture by messianic cults, which can be more organized than the normal citizens.
These are not internationally recognized land of Israel. So in the long term part of this will be lost investment, as even after land swaps the parts of the settlements would need to be evacuated, like in 1982 and 2005.
This is part of the problem of the proportional representation democracy. If there are highly motivated cult groups, they use coalition government to hijack for their lifestyle which has superficial rational appearance, but a disguise for messianic cults.
So, they are friendly middle class communities, with “good people” “patriotic values”. They don’t have dysfunctional lifestyle and seem healthy in many ways. They have positive values, like the community strength, care for the disabled people etc.
But the location of their lifestyle can be selfish, irresponsible. In the long term, it can be political disaster for the country.
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Settlements in Israel often like the Moscow of infrastructure. You know there is something strange, when they have clean streets, large villages, swimming pools. And by comparison, hard working area of Israel is decaying with underinvestment and small apartments.
Then even secular institutions in the West Bank, can be like crazy multi-billion dollar investments. They then use billion dollars West Bank universities to educate the Palestinians in the internationally non-recognized territory.
While the same country with these multi-billion dollar investments in legally not accepted land, cannot pay for the earthquake retrofitting of the core population in land they own.
And do they intend to turn political control over to the Arabs? If not, their opposition to the state of Israel is probably some technical religious detail with little real world significance.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry, @A123
Very grounded interview by Razib Khan with Samo Burja on the respective futures of Europe and Russia.
Samo echoing Dmitry’s “trash can of history” comments in his pessimistic opinion that, whatever the outcome, in the near future the Russia-Ukraine conflict won’t be seen as much more consequential the world’s powers than the Yugoslav Wars (his example).
And equally downcast predictions of the Ukraine-Russia devolving into the 21st Century’s own tedious and never-progressing version of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, with the rest of Europe dragging itself down with it, a continent of crabs and buckets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiNfior6DPc&t=3651s&pp=ygUQc2FtbyBidXJqYSByYXppYg%3D%3D
Razib's an arrogant asshole btw with an absurdly overblown opinion of his own brilliance. Probably worth reading for the genetics, but not much else.Replies: @Mr. XYZ
Pretty much all haredi women work, as do 40% of the men. The number of men in the workforce would be much higher had secular Israel not started bribing them to join their coalitions in the 1980’s. Before then, 80% of haredi men worked.
I agree haredi men should work but serving in the IDF is out of the question. The haredim never asked for the state to be created in the first place and they don’t care if it continues to exist or not. They have no obligation to fight to protect such a state. The IDF has no manpower problems and literally the only reason anyone wants a haredi draft is to turn haredi boys into secular Zionists and thereby destroy haredi society.
Also, while it is true that military service is mandatory for all Israeli Jews, combat service is not. You can easily serve your entire term as a mechanic, cook, writer or whatever. So even if the haredim were drafted (which will never happen, it would cause a civil war) the haredim still wouldn’t be helping defend Israel. All that would happen is they would get some free job training because no haredi would ever volunteer to join a combat unit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BRyNyY0A0.
Russia's economy is Germany's size in PPP terms. And I hope that a reformed post-Putin Russia would eventually itself seek to join the EU. Though it would have to come to terms with its guilt for the Ukraine War and pay reparations to Ukraine beforehand, along with likely reducing its level of corruption down to Polish levels.
China already exports some of its culture. Netflix has some Chinese animated and 3D shows even right now, for instance. And Yes, I don't see why exactly India wouldn't continue to industrialize. I expect India to ultimately converge to Bulgaria's or Romania's level of development. But this would likely be by the end of the 21st century, unless of course AI will massively speed up the process for India.Replies: @Dmitry
Where is the evidence of the “greater economies of scale”?
If “greater economies of scale” is important, then logical implication the EU should also add Africa, China and India to the EU. It will strengthen the EU in the long-run by “greater economies of scale”. German Reader will become even more wealthy with these “greater economies of scale”.
Switzerland should just combine with Moldova, as Switzerland-Moldova will have “greater economies of scale” than failed country of Switzerland. Therefore, Switzerland’s economy might be successful.
Israel will become stronger by merging to Egypt and Jordan.
Singapore should merge with Philippines, so Singapore will not be an economic failure anymore.
Which is an imaginary fantasy.
As Guriev says, PPP is completely irrelevant for international comparison of economic size. It’s only designed to explain standard of living of individuals. The international comparison, is the nominal data.
After the SMO, I think Russia will very gradually work to selectively revive some of the high tech industries. They need Ukraine to be self-supporting, but don't want to foster an anti-Russia fifth column.
The very strong Soviet-created scientific industrial sector in Ukraine was candle in the wind 1950-2000 A.D., R.I.P.
The Israeli left may be even more odious than the Western left. At least the Western left owns that they are a bunch of worthless cosmopolitans, the Israeli left actually attempts to use Judaism itself to attack the haredim. And they had no problem allying with the haredim for decades to wage their war on the settlers. Awful people.Replies: @German_reader, @Mr. XYZ, @Dmitry, @Yevardian
Congratulations, you have reached A123 levels of retarded, uncritical Israel-worship.
“War on the settlers” ….LOL, those poor innocent settlers squatting on the outskirts of decrepit old Arab villages, burning olive groves and engaging in price-tag attacks, showing nothing but contempt for the elected Israeli government and then calling in the IDF to (mostly unwillingly) to tear-gas and strip-search their neighbors when a few children start throwing rocks.
Although, if you had ever bothered to try understanding Israeli society, you’d quickly understand why the settlers are a huge problem and total cancer on their body-politic, even from the perspective of thinking Israeli nationalists. Or at least it was, Avigdor Lieberman (for his many flaws and subsequent downfall) was an example of this hardnosed-but-commonsense attitude.
Since true scum of the earth Naftali Bennet got elected to state leadership a few years ago it was just too much and I gave up on Israeli society generally, I couldn’t even read about it anymore. Settlers are the future there.
Under ordinary circumstances, regular Israelis would rather have nothing to do with the occupied territories, stay behind their ‘Security Wall’ and leave it at that, its the settlers and their incessant chimpouts and provocations that make it an unending domestic and international headache.
But I will leave this topic to Dmitry, I’m uncertain you’re worth arguing with on this.
Meatball Ron's future is in some think tank making an obscene amount of money for the way he took one for the team by launching this suicide run for the PresidencyReplies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Joe Paluka
Depends which Judaism lol:
https://forward.com/news/371280/how-rabbis-are-trying-to-make-the-conservative-movement-more-gay-friendly/
“Your relationships and marriages are all cool, but please don’t poke each other in the butt lol! Even though we allow opposite-sex couples and lesbians (strap-ons) to poke each other in the butts lol!”
From Anatoly Crimeus* Karlin (Anatoly Krym* Karlin):
I guess that this means that Russia should not have tried to reintegrate Ukraine because both Russia’s and Ukraine’s cognitive elites were more hostile towards this idea than Russian and Ukrainian proles were, right?
*Technically Krym translates to Crimea, but Krym is masculine while Crimea is feminine, hence Crimeus instead. I will begin referring to him as such due to his past Russian nationalism lol.
Those regions are too dull and/or authoritarian. Though if Russia joins the EU, then theoretically Japan and South Korea could as well were they actually European.
Since true scum of the earth Naftali Bennet got elected to state leadership a few years ago it was just too much and I gave up on Israeli society generally, I couldn't even read about it anymore. Settlers are the future there.Under ordinary circumstances, regular Israelis would rather have nothing to do with the occupied territories, stay behind their 'Security Wall' and leave it at that, its the settlers and their incessant chimpouts and provocations that make it an unending domestic and international headache.But I will leave this topic to Dmitry, I'm uncertain you're worth arguing with on this.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry
Bennett came to power with the help of the left wing parties with a coalition whose only purpose was to destroy the haredim. It failed completely and ended Bennett’s career. You don’t have to worry about ever seeing someone like Bennett in charge ever again.
There are no “regular Israelis”. There is the secular middle class, who clearly think of themselves as “regular Israelis” but they are vastly outnumbered by haredim, national religious, working class Mizrahim and Arabs. It is, AFAIK, the only case in history where a group that is about 35% of the population regards itself as the majority. Or maybe they just do math differently over there.
- When the political extracting fails, the population can be often disobedient and cause a problem for local authorities. On the other hand, Haredim are real pacifists (except to their own community), which have low crime. They create very safe areas, with a nice atmosphere. So, in small numbers, they are good neighbors. You can't say they are completely negative community. But the effect, of large numbers, is untested. Many Arab areas in Israel have high crime, dysfunction and sometimes contribution to the jihadist terrorism. But the higher crime in the Arab areas is also because the underinvestment in the Arab community, by Israel. So, there is not a simple history, with only one side responsible. Bedouin areas of Israel with the fertility rates of 8 children per women, are also rapidly destroying their own ecology and not sustainable. The Bedouin would need to choose between the ecology which depends for traditional life, or the 8 children per women. Which "Israeli left"? Secular people who pay the taxes, are joining the army for combat units, who pay tuition fee for university, who sometimes logically say they are carrying the country?Immigrants in Israel receive free university, after avoiding the army. Arabs receive a lot of affirmative action scholarships after avoiding the army. Haredim have free money from the government for their own incorrect studies. But the local Israelis have to pay the complete cost for university, even after they were working in the army for free. Who "wage their war on the settlers"? Some of the settlements extract disproportionately large part of the budget, while some of the small hats are operating Messianic cults which is remind of Mormons. A lot of Israel (not just Arab areas) is very underinvested in terms of the infrastructure and housing. But then there are some of the small hats' settlements with American style of infrastructure, swimming pools etc. It's partly indication of state capture by messianic cults, which can be more organized than the normal citizens. These are not internationally recognized land of Israel. So in the long term part of this will be lost investment, as even after land swaps the parts of the settlements would need to be evacuated, like in 1982 and 2005. This is part of the problem of the proportional representation democracy. If there are highly motivated cult groups, they use coalition government to hijack for their lifestyle which has superficial rational appearance, but a disguise for messianic cults. So, they are friendly middle class communities, with "good people" "patriotic values". They don't have dysfunctional lifestyle and seem healthy in many ways. They have positive values, like the community strength, care for the disabled people etc. But the location of their lifestyle can be selfish, irresponsible. In the long term, it can be political disaster for the country. -Settlements in Israel often like the Moscow of infrastructure. You know there is something strange, when they have clean streets, large villages, swimming pools. And by comparison, hard working area of Israel is decaying with underinvestment and small apartments. Then even secular institutions in the West Bank, can be like crazy multi-billion dollar investments. They then use billion dollars West Bank universities to educate the Palestinians in the internationally non-recognized territory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSI7AjPWfMWhile the same country with these multi-billion dollar investments in legally not accepted land, cannot pay for the earthquake retrofitting of the core population in land they own.Replies: @silviosilver
But what percentage of all Haredis are they?
And do they intend to turn political control over to the Arabs? If not, their opposition to the state of Israel is probably some technical religious detail with little real world significance.
The other haredim, err.... I doubt it. I suspect their view towards the state of Israel would become much more positive once they were the ones actually running the place and when the only alternative was being slaughtered or expelled by the revenge minded Palestinians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnFPlbEjTcM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEFUWwzIdco
If they were actually against the nation of Israel, why would they voluntarily migrate there? Why do they stay? Even if they do not personally want to be government officials they clearly respect the system.
Look at the huge pro government assemblies supporting necessary judicial reforms. Big hats and Israeli flags are both visible.
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I find use of the term pacifist to be odd. Staying out of the IDF does not equal pacifism. While there may be some true "Amish style" pacifists, these must be the exception.
The indigenous Jews of Judea are in long term conflict with the Muslim occupiers. Trying to undo 1,400 years of land theft requires assertiveness.
PEACE 😇
I agree haredi men should work but serving in the IDF is out of the question. The haredim never asked for the state to be created in the first place and they don't care if it continues to exist or not. They have no obligation to fight to protect such a state. The IDF has no manpower problems and literally the only reason anyone wants a haredi draft is to turn haredi boys into secular Zionists and thereby destroy haredi society.
Also, while it is true that military service is mandatory for all Israeli Jews, combat service is not. You can easily serve your entire term as a mechanic, cook, writer or whatever. So even if the haredim were drafted (which will never happen, it would cause a civil war) the haredim still wouldn't be helping defend Israel. All that would happen is they would get some free job training because no haredi would ever volunteer to join a combat unit.Replies: @Dmitry, @German_reader
Why are your comments about Israel, always writing many facts backwards? At least this time, you seemed to write some of the sentences which are not backwards, like the employment rate of Haredi women is higher than Haredi men, although it is 70-80%.
It’s not mandatory for religious Jews. Religious national men have less exemption and the women also have the famous national service program for the datit women instead of the army. The religious women often working voluntary jobs, often with Arab populations etc.
This is obviously not true, as they try to follow all the crazy religious requirements of the Haredi soldiers, even preventing interaction of Haredi soldiers with women while they are in the army. They had to build special institutional basis for the Haredi soldiers.
Lol how can avoid knowing the famous story of Haredi combat units, it’s one of the most famous and regular journalists’ stories about Israel.
They are usually the academic or social rejects of the Haredi society.
Often they are rejected by their family, beaten when they visit their own community, have difficulty to be married etc. It’s more from the Middle Eastern Haredim.
The numbers could be lower than the Bedouin soldiers, but Haredim combat soldiers need separate institutions from the normal soldiers because they have so many religious rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BRyNyY0A0.
I agree haredi men should work but serving in the IDF is out of the question. The haredim never asked for the state to be created in the first place and they don't care if it continues to exist or not. They have no obligation to fight to protect such a state. The IDF has no manpower problems and literally the only reason anyone wants a haredi draft is to turn haredi boys into secular Zionists and thereby destroy haredi society.
Also, while it is true that military service is mandatory for all Israeli Jews, combat service is not. You can easily serve your entire term as a mechanic, cook, writer or whatever. So even if the haredim were drafted (which will never happen, it would cause a civil war) the haredim still wouldn't be helping defend Israel. All that would happen is they would get some free job training because no haredi would ever volunteer to join a combat unit.Replies: @Dmitry, @German_reader
They don’t want to serve in the army, not even as medics or ambulance drivers, but would start a civil war if their privileges were questioned? That’s some fucked-up level of entitlement and selfishness.
As for serving in the army, if the state attempts to put tens or even hundreds of thousands of haredim in prison, along with all of the communities spiritual leaders, yes that would cause a civil war. I suspect the same could be said for any other community anywhere else in the world.
I'm not actually against this idea, but they have no right to "demand" subsidies that are not willingly given by secular Jews who see no value in their activities, and they differ from monks by not being composed of volunteers, but of people born into the order, who have not been given a choice (anyone can leave, theoretically, but it's tough making such a drastic change for most of).
On second thought, it brings up the general problem of whether it is fair and just for a state to monopolize access to all land and resources and then narrowly restrict access based on its own priorities. In other words the state monopolizes all productive land and then offers people a highly restricted set of activities in exchange for access, that may not reflect the individuals priorities or values (don't want to be a computer programmer? Starve).
I was very briefly touching on this in my discussion with Silvio, but seem in the broader context of economics the Haredis may not be so wrong after all, now that I think about it. Of course, if Haredim refuse to do military service than they ought to accept the consequences of that, which is conquest by Arabs.Replies: @Beckow, @German_reader
And do they intend to turn political control over to the Arabs? If not, their opposition to the state of Israel is probably some technical religious detail with little real world significance.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry, @A123
It depends which group. Most haredim are non Zionist, not anti Zionist. The anti Zionist groups like Satmar and Neturi Karta would absolutely turn control of the state over the Arabs. Their theology holds that Mosiach cannot come until they do so.
The other haredim, err…. I doubt it. I suspect their view towards the state of Israel would become much more positive once they were the ones actually running the place and when the only alternative was being slaughtered or expelled by the revenge minded Palestinians.
Samo echoing Dmitry's "trash can of history" comments in his pessimistic opinion that, whatever the outcome, in the near future the Russia-Ukraine conflict won't be seen as much more consequential the world's powers than the Yugoslav Wars (his example).
And equally downcast predictions of the Ukraine-Russia devolving into the 21st Century's own tedious and never-progressing version of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, with the rest of Europe dragging itself down with it, a continent of crabs and buckets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiNfior6DPc&t=3651s&pp=ygUQc2FtbyBidXJqYSByYXppYg%3D%3DReplies: @German_reader
Can’t watch the interview right now, but the comparison with the Yugoslav wars is absurd. Russia’s turn away from Europe and alignment with China plus the total subjection of the EU under American hegemony are a pretty big deal, even if this doesn’t go nuclear (far from certain).
Razib’s an arrogant asshole btw with an absurdly overblown opinion of his own brilliance. Probably worth reading for the genetics, but not much else.
https://forward.com/news/371280/how-rabbis-are-trying-to-make-the-conservative-movement-more-gay-friendly/
"Your relationships and marriages are all cool, but please don't poke each other in the butt lol! Even though we allow opposite-sex couples and lesbians (strap-ons) to poke each other in the butts lol!"
From Anatoly Crimeus* Karlin (Anatoly Krym* Karlin): I guess that this means that Russia should not have tried to reintegrate Ukraine because both Russia's and Ukraine's cognitive elites were more hostile towards this idea than Russian and Ukrainian proles were, right?
*Technically Krym translates to Crimea, but Krym is masculine while Crimea is feminine, hence Crimeus instead. I will begin referring to him as such due to his past Russian nationalism lol.Replies: @German_reader
Should be Crimeum, AK is an object after all.
The haredim have repeatedly said that they are fine with the Israeli gov cutting off all their funds, but that they will not serve in such a government. Seems a pretty reasonable position. And for the record, about half of the votes for the haredi parties come from “secular” (not really; it’s actually either working class Mizrachi or Arab(long story)) Israelis.
As for serving in the army, if the state attempts to put tens or even hundreds of thousands of haredim in prison, along with all of the communities spiritual leaders, yes that would cause a civil war. I suspect the same could be said for any other community anywhere else in the world.
And do they intend to turn political control over to the Arabs? If not, their opposition to the state of Israel is probably some technical religious detail with little real world significance.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry, @A123
Most of the Haredim would be technically opposed to Israel, maybe all of the non-Hasidic groups. Some of the Hassidic groups like Chabad are pro-Israel.
Some of the Haredim really hate Israel and the ghettos like Mea Shearim traditionally have Palestinian flags on their streets. Israeli police often climb into the ghetto to remove the flags.
But I think your comment is accurate, we couldn’t predict what is the real significance for such opaque cults.
They are self-focused cults, without priorities outside their community. They are not Islamists, with interest about controlling the world outside their cults.
Also unlike Muslims, the Haredim are pacifists.
But what happens with large numbers of anti-modern inbreeding cults for a country? It’s an “interesting” experiment, historically untested if you can create a civilized country with these cults.
Amish are 0,01% of the population of the USA. Haredim are already 130 times higher proportion of Israel’s population, than Amish of USA’s population. In a generation, they could be 300 times more.
These are also opaque and mysterious group. One of their cult leaders is unhappy, and then thousands of their children sit in the road to close the country’s traffic.
It’s not sure they will destroy Israel, but it’s understandable some Israelis are feeling of a zombie apocalypse. I guess there is also problem of police brutality against their protests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEFUWwzIdco
I like Crimeus better since objects can’t care about porcine suffering like AK does.
No common border.
Too dull and too culturally incompatible.
Too dull.
If a more liberal and more conciliatory regime will come to power in Russia post-Putin (either immediately or eventually), then it’s not impossible.
Razib's an arrogant asshole btw with an absurdly overblown opinion of his own brilliance. Probably worth reading for the genetics, but not much else.Replies: @Mr. XYZ
Do you think that there was ever any scenario where, in response to the West being friendlier towards Russia, Russia would have agreed to pursue a trade embargo against China in response to any Chinese aggression against China’s neighbors, such as a Chinese attack against Taiwan? Or would that have been asking for too much from even a friendlier Russia?
This is ultimately what I want to know: Whether AP is right that the time to separate Russia and China was back in the 1990s and that later it was already too late for this.
Perhaps AK is still an adherent of ‘Italian Elite Theory’. It has been trending in a modest way among NRx dissident rightoids for some time. History is the history of the circulation of elites; the masses are disorganised and passive, acting on purely emotive impulses until they are organised and formed by some elite.
Italian elite theory has some amoral and Nietzschean (Machiavellian?) flavour but was produced by more systematic thinkers.
In some way evoking it against rightoids is like criticising them for not being sophisticated enough and being limited in their reading or podcast playlists?
Well, maybe. But Secular Ashkenazim are the reason why Israel exists, the people who built the country, revived the Hebrew language, have run all its governments, and are still the only really productive demographic in the entire country.
Its worth reading Jewish internal dialogue on Israel during the late 80s and early 90s, before the mass migration from the USSR restored Ashkenazi cultural predominance from the verge of becoming eclipsed (and even then it the assimilation process was extremely botched, with such gross incompetence many even moved back to the ex-USSR), there was real panic in Israeli society about the state of the country, not even connected to by-then largely imaginary Arab threat (the intifada had not yet started).
tl;dr- wishes "Palestine" had become part of the UK rather than seeking Israeli independence
- hates Mizrahi culture and wishes they had never arrived (elsewhere I've heard him say "this country wasn't made for you")
- says it would have been better if, "like in Herzl's Europe," everybody [in Israel] were white, everybody speaking German
- the interviewer tells him his wife is Yemeni Jew; Hetsroni: "How low can you go?!?"Unfortunately, in a thousand other ways he is a standard leftist degenerate idiot, and mostly gives evasive answers.Replies: @Yahya, @Ivashka the fool, @Dmitry, @Mr. XYZ
Good for them!
https://assets.deutschlandfunk.de/1fbcc4b0-c8fd-45b7-9771-fe2f8e10fd98/1280x720.jpg?t=1663058502356Replies: @German_reader, @Yahya, @Derer
He’s just articulating the nihilistic logic of secularism and atheism. He should be applauded for being honest about it. Dmitry would say the exact same thing if he had more honesty and courage – it’s the implicit background of everything he writes.
Karlin is playing a Nietzsche-like role, in that he’s “lifting the lid” so to speak on modern middle class culture and peering inside, saying aloud what is supposed to be hush hush.
This kind of thinking stretches back to the Middle Ages and ushered in the modern period, the idea that the good isn’t intrinsic but just whatever God happens to wants – the elites playing the role of God for Karlin, of course. It’s basically the worship of Power.
Even though it seems like Karlin has changed, he’s never claimed to have any principle other than Power. Many immature people make the mistake of thinking hyper-macho posturing is power, when it is a sign of decadence, so his initial support for Russia was unsurprising. But Karlin was honest enough to learn that macho posturing indicates weakness and change course. Many people still think Macho Islam or someone like Sher Singh represent power rather than decadence, and never advance beyond that.
But Karlin has remained consistent throughout his morphology and has always worshipped the same principle wherever he felt it was best expressed.
I’m actually super impressed with how honest and consistent Karlin is willing to be, without any of the hypocrisies or compromises or incoherencies and r halfway-houses of most secular atheists, and I’m curious where his journey will take him personally. He’s willing to follow the logic of modernity to the end.
As a society, I think the nihilistic worship of Power is leading to self-destruction, and I wonder if Karlin will save himself from the shipwreck or go down with the boat.
A curious case, Karlin, and I’ll continue watching.
Exaggerate much?
I think this statement is a mere reflection of your political bias.
Iran has produced some worthy cultural goods over the previous half-century.
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It could’ve been higher under a monarchic or democratic counterfactual, but that’s not to say nothing was produced.
The Blind Owl comes highly recommend by David Bentley Hart, and is on my reading list.
The best way to look at the Haredim is as a medieval order of monks, who serve society in other ways – through unceasing prayer and study of scripture. In their view, this is more important than actual military service and sustains the existence of Jewish society.
I’m not actually against this idea, but they have no right to “demand” subsidies that are not willingly given by secular Jews who see no value in their activities, and they differ from monks by not being composed of volunteers, but of people born into the order, who have not been given a choice (anyone can leave, theoretically, but it’s tough making such a drastic change for most of).
On second thought, it brings up the general problem of whether it is fair and just for a state to monopolize access to all land and resources and then narrowly restrict access based on its own priorities. In other words the state monopolizes all productive land and then offers people a highly restricted set of activities in exchange for access, that may not reflect the individuals priorities or values (don’t want to be a computer programmer? Starve).
I was very briefly touching on this in my discussion with Silvio, but seem in the broader context of economics the Haredis may not be so wrong after all, now that I think about it. Of course, if Haredim refuse to do military service than they ought to accept the consequences of that, which is conquest by Arabs.
The constant mantra "you must work!" makes little sense in the modern economy where most work has no productive value - or even minus value. Does anyone need more salesmen of sh..t or more chair warmers to circulate 'messages' and stare at slides for the next 'project'? Of course not, it is a game, an elaborate work dance we have invented not to collapse into sloth and idleness. But the actual economy doesn't need at least half of the so called 'workers'...they are there to have a structure in their lives and to consume.
If Israel would turn the Haredis' head-bobbing 'study of texts' into an economic good they could reward it as just another economic activity - how would that be any different from people living off attending 'diversity seminars', selling sh.t online, cold-calling customers who don't care to be customers, or even tracking 'security risks' online? We live in a post-work world and the Haredis are simply more open about it...:).Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
It could’ve been higher under a monarchic or democratic counterfactual, but that’s not to say nothing was produced.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Sure, I just meant nothing like the contribution they could be making, and perhaps will again. China also has some excellent cultural output, but it’s quite low based on its history and what it can, and hopefully will, make once again.
The Blind Owl comes highly recommend by David Bentley Hart, and is on my reading list.
Check out this guy, one Amir Hetsroni. He is very worked up about Israel’s transformation.
youtube 4iqzCnm-gCM
Some choice comments beginning at 31 minutes.
tl;dr
– wishes “Palestine” had become part of the UK rather than seeking Israeli independence
– hates Mizrahi culture and wishes they had never arrived (elsewhere I’ve heard him say “this country wasn’t made for you”)
– says it would have been better if, “like in Herzl’s Europe,” everybody [in Israel] were white, everybody speaking German
– the interviewer tells him his wife is Yemeni Jew; Hetsroni: “How low can you go?!?”
Unfortunately, in a thousand other ways he is a standard leftist degenerate idiot, and mostly gives evasive answers.
He says anti-Moroccan racists views and he jokes about himself.
Then Moroccans hits him with a chair and he cries and is more racist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3vbCO1g_FQ
Then the media in Israel laughs about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73WIPG9ZmM
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If you ignore all the Israel-Palestinian violence, the country feels like quite organized, liberal place. Maybe not so different than New Zealand or Canada etc.
But unlike New Zealand or Canada, the population in Israel are not sophisticated anglosaxons, but simple rednecks. Beating the nerds is kind of national hobby.
I guess Hetsroni is an example of someone who is choosing to be a kind of role, because it gives him attention.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Hetsroni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iqzCnm-gCM
There are trolls, but he's an example of what I describe as a trollolol.
tl;dr- wishes "Palestine" had become part of the UK rather than seeking Israeli independence
- hates Mizrahi culture and wishes they had never arrived (elsewhere I've heard him say "this country wasn't made for you")
- says it would have been better if, "like in Herzl's Europe," everybody [in Israel] were white, everybody speaking German
- the interviewer tells him his wife is Yemeni Jew; Hetsroni: "How low can you go?!?"Unfortunately, in a thousand other ways he is a standard leftist degenerate idiot, and mostly gives evasive answers.Replies: @Yahya, @Ivashka the fool, @Dmitry, @Mr. XYZ
Based. An exclusivist Ashkenazi Israel would’ve been a Middle Eastern outpost of Mitteleuropa, with a more functional governance and intellectual culture. Mizrahi redneck culture has depressed Israel’s cultural productivity way below their intellectual capacity.
OTOH, Mizrahim keep Israel grounded. A substantial portion of the Ashkenazim have already cucked.
A Faustian bargain.
The Ashkenazi who went to Israel were hard, stern, Spartan, men, who carried with them a vision of Zionism that was militaristic and agricultural and was an explicit attempt to depart from the intellectual culture of diaspora Jewry and develop a more "physical" Jew. They succeeded quite well, and have significantly lower IQs than diaspora Jewry, although high by world standards.
Such men would not have created a high artistic culture. The recent cultural "softening" of Israel, the explosion in excellent cuisine and general softening of its Spartan contours and increase in quality of life, is the result of the recent greater prominence of the Sephardic community, affecting also the Ashkenazim.
In the future, some new cultural fusion is arising based on disparate elements, which is always the precondition - although not the sufficient condition - for a new and interesting cultural efflorescence.
That is, if the recent religious and right wing turn doesn't nip things in the bud and make Israel a boring appenage of conservative Arab countries. (Well, the whole region needs a revitalization).Replies: @RSDB
It is also the commonly held opinion in the Galkovsky’s circles. It would be funny if AK agreed with such a pov, given his views on Galkovsky being an imbecile.
tl;dr- wishes "Palestine" had become part of the UK rather than seeking Israeli independence
- hates Mizrahi culture and wishes they had never arrived (elsewhere I've heard him say "this country wasn't made for you")
- says it would have been better if, "like in Herzl's Europe," everybody [in Israel] were white, everybody speaking German
- the interviewer tells him his wife is Yemeni Jew; Hetsroni: "How low can you go?!?"Unfortunately, in a thousand other ways he is a standard leftist degenerate idiot, and mostly gives evasive answers.Replies: @Yahya, @Ivashka the fool, @Dmitry, @Mr. XYZ
The best way to get forever rid of the Jewish Question, would be to isolate the Goyim from the Chosen People and let the Chosen People sort it out among themselves. Ideally in Madagascar. The results would be interesting to watch from afar. Unfortunately, most Jews would prefer not being part of the experiment.
Papuas blet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great_in_the_Bible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri_and_ostraca
https://cojs.org/the_passover_papyrus_from_elephantine-_419_bce/
There would probably be no Jews left today without the Persian friendly and loving help. Of course nobody expects some gratitude from the Jewish people. When the time is right they always switch sides and do some backstabbing against those who helped and protected them. This is a recurring historical pattern.
Also, for an anti-American Jew, you are still typically ignorant of the historical context as most Americans are. That makes me think you are just a disgruntled American. Perhaps you should come to terms with your American personality, fuse it harmoniously with your Jewishness, embrace some funny Haredi cult (the Na-nach would do), get married and live a happy life fathering a dozen children and dying a respected patriarch?
The image of the Temple Menorah, the official state emblem of a modern restored Israel, is taken straight from the Arch of Titus where it was depicted as a trophy held aloft by Roman legionnaires.
Some have compared Trump to a modern day Cyrus, though I find the more interesting comparison of Trump is with 'Rome's richest man', the Roman billionaire and real estate speculator, Marcus Crassus.
Crassus was a member of Rome's First Triumvirate, the informal political alliance which had once ruled Rome and which, after Crassus' untimely death, ultimately devolved into a civil war between it's surviving members, ie the Roman general Pompey and Crassus's political protege, the up and coming Julius Caesar.
Rome's First Triumvirate in turn has it's uncanny close parallels with the present day New Rome's (US) Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo, and Trump's political protege, Jared Kushner.
https://www.israel365news.com/321845/sanhedrin-temple-movement-issue-silver-half-shekel-images-trump-cyrus/
https://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/trump-cyrus-coin-mikdash-educational-center-600.jpg
For my own sake, I try not to hate anyone (except for white liberals, but that doesn't count as white liberals are subhumans who should all be dead), however, I really dislike Iranians and Lebanese. And in both cases it isn't just the antisemitism. Antisemitism by itself usually doesn't bother me. What bothers me about Iranians and Lebanese is the combination of antisemitism with unreal levels of arrogance and a totally unjustified sense of superiority.
The Iranians and Lebanese are both extremely primitive and stupid peoples. Their countries are absolute garbage and always have been. When Solemaini was assassinated, the Iranian response was to shoot down one of their own airliners, killing 300 of their own people. Then they trampled 80 people to death at Solemaini's funeral. This is primitive behavior that you only see in third world countries and you saw it because the Iranians are a third world people.
We know form Nazi communications that the Iranians were the non German nation that was most sympathetic to Nazism. The Iranians responded far more favorably to Nazism than even the Arabs did, which is saying a lot because the Arabs themselves were huge fans of Nazism.
You can tell a lot about a people by who hates them and who admires them. I have never seen an antisemite who didn't absolutely love Iranians, to the point of regarding them as some sort of master race. And it's simply not true. Iranians are morons and just because they have managed to make better drones than Turkey and keep their fleet of F-17s flying through a mixture of cannibalization of existing stocks, smuggling and knock off parts from Russia and China (as Iranians themselves are too stupid to make replacement parts for a 1960s aircraft) doesn't change that. Also, they got absolutely waxed by Saddam in their war and the cowardly Iranians were expecting the international community to bail them out. Once they saw that wouldn't happen they folded like the impotent cowards they always have been.
I don't even like Iranian Jews, if I'm being honest. They have debased Iranian blood.
Despite all this, I still support Iran against the United States. I simply cannot make myself support the US. Death to America.
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Re MarbledSteaks comment about Amalek: Amalek is a spiritual lineage, not a physical one. Hasidic tradition held long before Hitler was even in politics that an Amalekite would eventually rule Germany. Any Kabbalist will tell you that those hung at Nuremberg were Haman's reincarnated sons (Goering was the reincarnation of Haman's daughter). This is hardly new stuff.Replies: @Yahya, @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @Ivashka the fool
Short modern brilliance, Jonathan Swift would be jealous;)

And do they intend to turn political control over to the Arabs? If not, their opposition to the state of Israel is probably some technical religious detail with little real world significance.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry, @A123
I concur. It is a really fringe, technical concept with little significance.
If they were actually against the nation of Israel, why would they voluntarily migrate there? Why do they stay? Even if they do not personally want to be government officials they clearly respect the system.
Look at the huge pro government assemblies supporting necessary judicial reforms. Big hats and Israeli flags are both visible.
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I find use of the term pacifist to be odd. Staying out of the IDF does not equal pacifism. While there may be some true “Amish style” pacifists, these must be the exception.
The indigenous Jews of Judea are in long term conflict with the Muslim occupiers. Trying to undo 1,400 years of land theft requires assertiveness.
PEACE 😇
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
How is that for a similar false dichotomy you ridiculous scumbag?
I am not sure it's "right wing" though - high inflation like with the lowlife Baltic states, and the unprecedented state dictatorship of all 3 of the Baltic government shitholes into their economies since the SMO - completely anti-freemarket principles......normally are associated with left-wing politics.
Also associated as right-wing ( fairly or not) is direct military intervention.......of course limp-wristed Lithuanian mercenaries have been near non-existant in 404, just as non-existent as their resistance to the Russian enlightenment from the late 1700s to 1991 - even white-red-white Belarus freaks have been far more involved in SMO! You could also call this "left-wing".
Greasy is an American Jew. He dislikes Iran because they are threatening Israel and because Persians are not easily dismissed as Arabs are. Modern day Iranian people are a mix of different populations, the Aryan component is rather limited. Turkic, Semitic and Elamite components are probably dominant compared to the Aryan. Aryianem Vaejah is somewhere else entirely, where exactly is hard to tell but most probably somewhere in the former USSR.
The Slavs are getting upset that we are not discussing their conflict 🙂
Calm down Slavs, we will return to regular scheduled programming shortly.
Dmitry, you should not have prefaced your introduction of topics relating to other cultures and the wider world by saying the Slav world is unimportant to humanity and Russia no more than a slightly larger Spain That was unkind and unworthy of you The Slavs are an integral part of humanity and we should cherish them and love them. All of humanity matters and has a unique contributions to make – and who knows what the Slav world might become once they overcome their current troubles and sub-optimal attitudes?
Humor:
Of course, it's better not to hate them and we shouldn't seek war with them (even though it's inevitable), but there is no point in us denying what they fundamentally are.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
I know you are joking in your usual outre way, Greasy, but Amalek doesn’t actually exist, it’s just a spiritual allegory, and has traditionally been read that way.
Don’t be a fundamentalist literalist Jew, like some Jewish Protestant 🙂 That’s a modern perversion.
As for Iran, look, I get it, the place is a very dark place right now. Pico Iyer goes on to detail the corrosive paranoia and stifling oppression of modern Iran. All the most rotten people today admire Iran – look at the rest of this website.
But it’s always important to distinguish between the people and their rulers, at least to some extent. And it’s always important to take the widest possible historical view and humanistic view.
Ancient Persia made one of the most crucial contributions to world religion – Zoroastrianism had a huge influence on the Jews, and through them the Christians and Muslims. Persian dualism needed to be qualified and put into a larger context of unity, but it was an important deepening of monotheism.
And according to Pico Iyer, paradise is a Persian invention. Perhaps, but they certainly made contributions to the development of that seminal concept.
This one tweet debunks all anti-caste rhetoric.
Goyim awake ! This forum is being overtaken by the Jews ! Three Jews are discussing their Jewish/Isreali internal affairs on a Holocaust-deniers friendly website.
Oy vey ! Oy gevalt !
Ukrainians, please do something!
Whignats, this is a call to arms!
🙂
I think you’re wrong about this.
The Ashkenazi who went to Israel were hard, stern, Spartan, men, who carried with them a vision of Zionism that was militaristic and agricultural and was an explicit attempt to depart from the intellectual culture of diaspora Jewry and develop a more “physical” Jew. They succeeded quite well, and have significantly lower IQs than diaspora Jewry, although high by world standards.
Such men would not have created a high artistic culture. The recent cultural “softening” of Israel, the explosion in excellent cuisine and general softening of its Spartan contours and increase in quality of life, is the result of the recent greater prominence of the Sephardic community, affecting also the Ashkenazim.
In the future, some new cultural fusion is arising based on disparate elements, which is always the precondition – although not the sufficient condition – for a new and interesting cultural efflorescence.
That is, if the recent religious and right wing turn doesn’t nip things in the bud and make Israel a boring appenage of conservative Arab countries. (Well, the whole region needs a revitalization).
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Have you sampled much Iranian culture?
Except for the fact that it was very schmaltzy, I though “Children of Heaven” (1997) had an interesting anti-materialist message. Still the only Iranian movie I’ve seen.
The Blind Owl recently came to my attention and it sounds excellent, and I will watch The Seperation too, as Yahya recommends.
I was entranced by Pico Iyers recent discussion of his visit to Iran in his new book, although he does mention a dark side also. And of course the great Sufi poets and Rumi and Hafiz etc.
I will look into Children of Heaven, thanks. Always interested in anti-materialistic art.
I'm not surprised even the fanatical Mullahs cannot entirely suppress the Iranian spirit.
Yes. But Elamites have migrated out to India, and then to South India, IIRC.
Emil should review that Lex podcast about the “N-word.” I want the highlights.
There would probably be no Jews left today without the Persian friendly and loving help. Of course nobody expects some gratitude from the Jewish people. When the time is right they always switch sides and do some backstabbing against those who helped and protected them. This is a recurring historical pattern.
Also, for an anti-American Jew, you are still typically ignorant of the historical context as most Americans are. That makes me think you are just a disgruntled American. Perhaps you should come to terms with your American personality, fuse it harmoniously with your Jewishness, embrace some funny Haredi cult (the Na-nach would do), get married and live a happy life fathering a dozen children and dying a respected patriarch?
https://youtu.be/gSoMvDJyp0wReplies: @silviosilver, @S, @Greasy William
I remember some comment on this site that said in five hundred years, they’ll be saying they were captives in New York. I can’t say I agree, but it does have the air of believability to it.
Lol. There was a Jewish apostate to Christianity who used to post at Unz, a real weirdo going by the name “Mevashir,” who was a follower of Rabbi Nachman. Maybe the Nachman cult attracts a lot of weirdos.
Have you sampled much Iranian culture?
Except for the fact that it was very schmaltzy, I though "Children of Heaven" (1997) had an interesting anti-materialist message. Still the only Iranian movie I've seen.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Sadly, no.
The Blind Owl recently came to my attention and it sounds excellent, and I will watch The Seperation too, as Yahya recommends.
I was entranced by Pico Iyers recent discussion of his visit to Iran in his new book, although he does mention a dark side also. And of course the great Sufi poets and Rumi and Hafiz etc.
I will look into Children of Heaven, thanks. Always interested in anti-materialistic art.
I’m not surprised even the fanatical Mullahs cannot entirely suppress the Iranian spirit.
The problem with Madagascar (or Birobidzhan) is it lacks a natural pull factor. At least with Israel, even if they don’t want to go, the historical association makes it a live option for them.
I certainly feel like I’m a captive in New York, and cannot wait till I find a Moses who will part the Red Sea for me to get out of here 🙂
Do you have a black lives matter poster?Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Glad to see that you're back. Put to rest your wandering shoes for a while, and have bid a farewell to the West (at least for now)?Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
The Ashkenazi who went to Israel were hard, stern, Spartan, men, who carried with them a vision of Zionism that was militaristic and agricultural and was an explicit attempt to depart from the intellectual culture of diaspora Jewry and develop a more "physical" Jew. They succeeded quite well, and have significantly lower IQs than diaspora Jewry, although high by world standards.
Such men would not have created a high artistic culture. The recent cultural "softening" of Israel, the explosion in excellent cuisine and general softening of its Spartan contours and increase in quality of life, is the result of the recent greater prominence of the Sephardic community, affecting also the Ashkenazim.
In the future, some new cultural fusion is arising based on disparate elements, which is always the precondition - although not the sufficient condition - for a new and interesting cultural efflorescence.
That is, if the recent religious and right wing turn doesn't nip things in the bud and make Israel a boring appenage of conservative Arab countries. (Well, the whole region needs a revitalization).Replies: @RSDB
Ashkenazi Jews, or anyone else, will obviously produce more culture in a society where they are members of a small class apart. As Chesterton said in the 1920s, the success of the Zionist project depended (among other things) on whether the Jews could be content with being “failures”:
Arab Christians are the Jews of Israel, surrounded by two larger and more aggressive groups, Jews and Muslims - and so are motivated to perform and prove themselves.
The Druze, another minority, I think also surpass Israeli Jews in academic performance iirc. So there you go - minority status is a huge factor in motivation to perform.
You feel the difference in Israeli and diaspora Jewish culture - Israeli Jews are much more relaxed, although they have their own intensity with the military situation, but it's different.Replies: @Yahya
See, it’s already starting.
When your Moses comes along, you can be his Aaron (your mother was prescient). You’ve certainly got the gab for it.
One of the funniest parts of My Dinner with Andre is him saying everybody claims they need to get out of New York.
Do you have a black lives matter poster?
I'm not actually against this idea, but they have no right to "demand" subsidies that are not willingly given by secular Jews who see no value in their activities, and they differ from monks by not being composed of volunteers, but of people born into the order, who have not been given a choice (anyone can leave, theoretically, but it's tough making such a drastic change for most of).
On second thought, it brings up the general problem of whether it is fair and just for a state to monopolize access to all land and resources and then narrowly restrict access based on its own priorities. In other words the state monopolizes all productive land and then offers people a highly restricted set of activities in exchange for access, that may not reflect the individuals priorities or values (don't want to be a computer programmer? Starve).
I was very briefly touching on this in my discussion with Silvio, but seem in the broader context of economics the Haredis may not be so wrong after all, now that I think about it. Of course, if Haredim refuse to do military service than they ought to accept the consequences of that, which is conquest by Arabs.Replies: @Beckow, @German_reader
There were always different kind of monks, but Haredim combine a few peculiar characteristics with being born into it, non-militant, willfully living of the surrounding society, etc…In a wealthy society there is no harm in it, but it looks parasitical.
The constant mantra “you must work!” makes little sense in the modern economy where most work has no productive value – or even minus value. Does anyone need more salesmen of sh..t or more chair warmers to circulate ‘messages’ and stare at slides for the next ‘project’? Of course not, it is a game, an elaborate work dance we have invented not to collapse into sloth and idleness. But the actual economy doesn’t need at least half of the so called ‘workers’…they are there to have a structure in their lives and to consume.
If Israel would turn the Haredis’ head-bobbing ‘study of texts‘ into an economic good they could reward it as just another economic activity – how would that be any different from people living off attending ‘diversity seminars‘, selling sh.t online, cold-calling customers who don’t care to be customers, or even tracking ‘security risks’ online? We live in a post-work world and the Haredis are simply more open about it…:).
Haredim are just pioneering Universal Basic Income (UBI) :) (Which Karlin approves of, btw, also)
The problem with the Haredim is that they are arrogant and entitled, and quite large as a community - but I wonder if they framed their demands not as a unique dispensation to their special community but as part of a larger struggle for universal basic income for everyone as part of a general social justice movement, I wonder if they wouldn't enlist the sympathies of many secular left wing Israelis!
In fact I think it'd be a genius marketing move, and the morally right thing also - them Israeli society can celebrate it's Haredim and not hate them.
There would probably be no Jews left today without the Persian friendly and loving help. Of course nobody expects some gratitude from the Jewish people. When the time is right they always switch sides and do some backstabbing against those who helped and protected them. This is a recurring historical pattern.
Also, for an anti-American Jew, you are still typically ignorant of the historical context as most Americans are. That makes me think you are just a disgruntled American. Perhaps you should come to terms with your American personality, fuse it harmoniously with your Jewishness, embrace some funny Haredi cult (the Na-nach would do), get married and live a happy life fathering a dozen children and dying a respected patriarch?
https://youtu.be/gSoMvDJyp0wReplies: @silviosilver, @S, @Greasy William
There’s a lot of symbolism on the Israeli minted coin below celebrating Cyrus and Trump standing side by side.
The image of the Temple Menorah, the official state emblem of a modern restored Israel, is taken straight from the Arch of Titus where it was depicted as a trophy held aloft by Roman legionnaires.
Some have compared Trump to a modern day Cyrus, though I find the more interesting comparison of Trump is with ‘Rome’s richest man’, the Roman billionaire and real estate speculator, Marcus Crassus.
Crassus was a member of Rome’s First Triumvirate, the informal political alliance which had once ruled Rome and which, after Crassus’ untimely death, ultimately devolved into a civil war between it’s surviving members, ie the Roman general Pompey and Crassus’s political protege, the up and coming Julius Caesar.
Rome’s First Triumvirate in turn has it’s uncanny close parallels with the present day New Rome’s (US) Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo, and Trump’s political protege, Jared Kushner.
https://www.israel365news.com/321845/sanhedrin-temple-movement-issue-silver-half-shekel-images-trump-cyrus/
This ties into what Dmitry said about Arab Christians being the best academic performers in Israel and the question of the relationship of motivation to performance and IQ.
Arab Christians are the Jews of Israel, surrounded by two larger and more aggressive groups, Jews and Muslims – and so are motivated to perform and prove themselves.
The Druze, another minority, I think also surpass Israeli Jews in academic performance iirc. So there you go – minority status is a huge factor in motivation to perform.
You feel the difference in Israeli and diaspora Jewish culture – Israeli Jews are much more relaxed, although they have their own intensity with the military situation, but it’s different.
The constant mantra "you must work!" makes little sense in the modern economy where most work has no productive value - or even minus value. Does anyone need more salesmen of sh..t or more chair warmers to circulate 'messages' and stare at slides for the next 'project'? Of course not, it is a game, an elaborate work dance we have invented not to collapse into sloth and idleness. But the actual economy doesn't need at least half of the so called 'workers'...they are there to have a structure in their lives and to consume.
If Israel would turn the Haredis' head-bobbing 'study of texts' into an economic good they could reward it as just another economic activity - how would that be any different from people living off attending 'diversity seminars', selling sh.t online, cold-calling customers who don't care to be customers, or even tracking 'security risks' online? We live in a post-work world and the Haredis are simply more open about it...:).Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Great comment, I strongly agree. I’ve made similar arguments here before.
Haredim are just pioneering Universal Basic Income (UBI) 🙂 (Which Karlin approves of, btw, also)
The problem with the Haredim is that they are arrogant and entitled, and quite large as a community – but I wonder if they framed their demands not as a unique dispensation to their special community but as part of a larger struggle for universal basic income for everyone as part of a general social justice movement, I wonder if they wouldn’t enlist the sympathies of many secular left wing Israelis!
In fact I think it’d be a genius marketing move, and the morally right thing also – them Israeli society can celebrate it’s Haredim and not hate them.
Do you have a black lives matter poster?Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
I’m thinking of draping one over my car as I drive out West with my NY plates by the end of the week 🙂
It seems the Ukrainian oligarchs and government had destroyed any hope of Ukrainian “economies of scale” even before the SMO started. That left farming, mining and a few other low-tech industries. I think most of the smart fraction of people had been driven out, so there was not enough mental horsepower to keep big organizations such as Antonov, Ivchenko or Yuhzmash going for much longer. In addition to profitable but low-tech industries they had the organized crime economy, including prostitution and whatever else.
After the SMO, I think Russia will very gradually work to selectively revive some of the high tech industries. They need Ukraine to be self-supporting, but don’t want to foster an anti-Russia fifth column.
The very strong Soviet-created scientific industrial sector in Ukraine was candle in the wind 1950-2000 A.D., R.I.P.
You’ll need to find a new an improved version though. The Atlantic Ocean is quite a bit wider than the Red Sea. 🙂
Glad to see that you’re back. Put to rest your wandering shoes for a while, and have bid a farewell to the West (at least for now)?
Yes, my Moses will have quite a bit of a harder task if he attempts to do his tricks on the Atlantic, but I only ask he lead me out of bondage and into the West :)
Arab Christians are the Jews of Israel, surrounded by two larger and more aggressive groups, Jews and Muslims - and so are motivated to perform and prove themselves.
The Druze, another minority, I think also surpass Israeli Jews in academic performance iirc. So there you go - minority status is a huge factor in motivation to perform.
You feel the difference in Israeli and diaspora Jewish culture - Israeli Jews are much more relaxed, although they have their own intensity with the military situation, but it's different.Replies: @Yahya
Sigh, another “just-so” explanation.
If being a “surrounded minority” motivates one to perform well academically, then why do Mizrahi Jews not attain results anywhere near Ashkenazi Jews in Israel. Are they not as surrounded by hostile Muslims?
How about African-Americans during Jim Crow? Why didn’t redneck hostility manifest into superior academic performance among blacks in America? Or in South Africa?
There are some non-genetic factors that can explain AC and AJ academic excellence, but as usual, hereditary factors exert the greatest force.
I wrote on Arab Christians here: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-169/#comment-5019452
Charles Murray on Ashkenazi Jewish Genius: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-169/#comment-5019452
As for Mizrahi Jews, I think the motivation happens when you are a minority within a state, although to some degree it's also intra-state - I don't think Israelis are genetically better fighters than Arabs, just much, much more motivated, for instance, and that motivation has systemic effects throughout the military system, including several unique design features and practices.
That being said, Mizrahi Jews have significantly upped their performance as a result of motivation - for instance, the Ashkenazim used to be the much better soldiers, but today the Mizrahi units are considered easily as good as the Ashkenazi.
Motivation is s highly "plastic" trait that works together with our complex brains to process data from the environment and develop the best strategy for concentrating performance. It does not make sense for every community to concentrate academically.
For instance, Jews were not notably smart in the ancient world - but the Christians forbade them from using weapons or working the land, so they had no choice but to concentrate in intellectual endeavors. The Mizrahim did not face anything close to the restrictions on economic activity and lifestyle that the Ashkenazi did, and so were not under anything close to the same pressure - never the less, the Mizrahim often achieved higher position as a community than the native, as in Spain, Cairo, and elsewhere. The Syrian Jewish community is fabulously wealthy, btw.
The Africans were the majority in South Africa it's the Whites who were the majority, and Blacks in America faced unique hurdles that Jews didn't that maybe made more sense for them to develop their athletic and cultural abilities. Relative to Africans, Blacks are a significantly overperforming minority culturally in America - in fact, relative to Whites, too, which is remarkable considering their status despised as ex slaves.
The Japanese went from being a feudal warrior society to great industrialists and merchants in a generation.
Perhaps one may think of people as possessing a certain "quantum" of energy and force that they can "project" in a particular direction as the situation dictates.
Of course, I accepted that innate ability plays a significant role too, just not as significant as you think.Replies: @Greasy William, @John Johnson, @Wokechoke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemmaReplies: @Gerard1234
LOL – what about the false dilemma for some non-event of a country ( Litva) of “either we elect a KGB butch lesbian/ some American geriatric 1940’s Nazi diaspora scumbag as our President………..or we continue with 250 more years of being (easily) dominated by Russians”?
How is that for a similar false dichotomy you ridiculous scumbag?
I am not sure it’s “right wing” though – high inflation like with the lowlife Baltic states, and the unprecedented state dictatorship of all 3 of the Baltic government shitholes into their economies since the SMO – completely anti-freemarket principles……normally are associated with left-wing politics.
Also associated as right-wing ( fairly or not) is direct military intervention…….of course limp-wristed Lithuanian mercenaries have been near non-existant in 404, just as non-existent as their resistance to the Russian enlightenment from the late 1700s to 1991 – even white-red-white Belarus freaks have been far more involved in SMO! You could also call this “left-wing”.
Very Niggur (powerful) Club
Singh told me how Niggur it was at least 5x
https://www.manglacharan.com/post/salotar-mehima-in-praise-of-the-club
ਅਕਾਲ
It’s not 100%, just a significant contributing factor. But the Israeli Arab Christians are just getting started – let’s see what they develop into in the next decades, Israel is still s very young state. Druze used to never get into the fighter pilots course or the top commando units, but are now entering both. There are now Druze in the same army unit that Netanyahu and Barak served in. And it wasn’t discrimination keeping them out. They’re developing.
As for Mizrahi Jews, I think the motivation happens when you are a minority within a state, although to some degree it’s also intra-state – I don’t think Israelis are genetically better fighters than Arabs, just much, much more motivated, for instance, and that motivation has systemic effects throughout the military system, including several unique design features and practices.
That being said, Mizrahi Jews have significantly upped their performance as a result of motivation – for instance, the Ashkenazim used to be the much better soldiers, but today the Mizrahi units are considered easily as good as the Ashkenazi.
Motivation is s highly “plastic” trait that works together with our complex brains to process data from the environment and develop the best strategy for concentrating performance. It does not make sense for every community to concentrate academically.
For instance, Jews were not notably smart in the ancient world – but the Christians forbade them from using weapons or working the land, so they had no choice but to concentrate in intellectual endeavors. The Mizrahim did not face anything close to the restrictions on economic activity and lifestyle that the Ashkenazi did, and so were not under anything close to the same pressure – never the less, the Mizrahim often achieved higher position as a community than the native, as in Spain, Cairo, and elsewhere. The Syrian Jewish community is fabulously wealthy, btw.
The Africans were the majority in South Africa it’s the Whites who were the majority, and Blacks in America faced unique hurdles that Jews didn’t that maybe made more sense for them to develop their athletic and cultural abilities. Relative to Africans, Blacks are a significantly overperforming minority culturally in America – in fact, relative to Whites, too, which is remarkable considering their status despised as ex slaves.
The Japanese went from being a feudal warrior society to great industrialists and merchants in a generation.
Perhaps one may think of people as possessing a certain “quantum” of energy and force that they can “project” in a particular direction as the situation dictates.
Of course, I accepted that innate ability plays a significant role too, just not as significant as you think.
That's a bit of an oversimplification that conveniently blames Christians.
Jewish urbanization existed before those laws were created.
Jewish urban merchants in Europe pre-date Christianity. There are even recordings of Jewish merchants by the Greeks. Jews were also in Egypt and Turkey a few thousand years ago.
Laws in European countries that restricted Jews were much later.
The Africans were the majority in South Africa it’s the Whites who were the majority, and Blacks in America faced unique hurdles that Jews didn’t that maybe made more sense for them to develop their athletic and cultural abilities.
Develop their athletic abilities? You think there would be more Jewish linebackers if they only focused more on that area? Me thinks you have some gene denial.
African-Americans are actually much larger than their Bantu relatives in Africa. This is because they were cross-bred with large Whites and Hispanics during slavery. If you sent every Xhosa to football training camps you still wouldn't have as many potential NFL players.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Russians are still fighting Russians in Belgograd:
The Putin bootlickin’ bloggers aren’t talking about it. They *want to believe* Russia is united behind the homicidal dwarf and all dissenters must be Jews. Scott Ritter referred to the anti-Putin Russian fighters as Ukrainian just like Russian State TV. What a jack off.
MacGregor is looking stressed in his latest video. Maybe he should ask Prigozhin for a job? Probably more likely to pay than Putin.
Glad to see that you're back. Put to rest your wandering shoes for a while, and have bid a farewell to the West (at least for now)?Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Actually, Mr Hack, I’m leaving Thursday out West 🙂 And very much looking forward to it, too!
Yes, my Moses will have quite a bit of a harder task if he attempts to do his tricks on the Atlantic, but I only ask he lead me out of bondage and into the West 🙂
I thought the Crimeans were with the Russians?
As for Mizrahi Jews, I think the motivation happens when you are a minority within a state, although to some degree it's also intra-state - I don't think Israelis are genetically better fighters than Arabs, just much, much more motivated, for instance, and that motivation has systemic effects throughout the military system, including several unique design features and practices.
That being said, Mizrahi Jews have significantly upped their performance as a result of motivation - for instance, the Ashkenazim used to be the much better soldiers, but today the Mizrahi units are considered easily as good as the Ashkenazi.
Motivation is s highly "plastic" trait that works together with our complex brains to process data from the environment and develop the best strategy for concentrating performance. It does not make sense for every community to concentrate academically.
For instance, Jews were not notably smart in the ancient world - but the Christians forbade them from using weapons or working the land, so they had no choice but to concentrate in intellectual endeavors. The Mizrahim did not face anything close to the restrictions on economic activity and lifestyle that the Ashkenazi did, and so were not under anything close to the same pressure - never the less, the Mizrahim often achieved higher position as a community than the native, as in Spain, Cairo, and elsewhere. The Syrian Jewish community is fabulously wealthy, btw.
The Africans were the majority in South Africa it's the Whites who were the majority, and Blacks in America faced unique hurdles that Jews didn't that maybe made more sense for them to develop their athletic and cultural abilities. Relative to Africans, Blacks are a significantly overperforming minority culturally in America - in fact, relative to Whites, too, which is remarkable considering their status despised as ex slaves.
The Japanese went from being a feudal warrior society to great industrialists and merchants in a generation.
Perhaps one may think of people as possessing a certain "quantum" of energy and force that they can "project" in a particular direction as the situation dictates.
Of course, I accepted that innate ability plays a significant role too, just not as significant as you think.Replies: @Greasy William, @John Johnson, @Wokechoke
There is no such thing as Mizrahi units in the IDF. Such a thing didn’t even exist in the 1950’s. What are you talking about?
Used to be a looked down on brigade but is now very highly respected.
Just as American society is split politically, I’d imagine the same applies to Chechnya and Crimea.
https://www.dw.com/en/chechen-and-tatar-muslims-take-up-arms-to-fight-for-ukraine/a-61174375
I mean units that attract a disproportionate share of Mizrahim, like Golani Infantry Brigade, and whose culture is famously Mizrahi.
Used to be a looked down on brigade but is now very highly respected.
Those could be the reasons why there is UA hesitancy to start very large scale offensives or offensives not achieving the desired goals, but only time will tell if this is correct overall impression:
https://warontherocks.com/2023/06/what-the-ukrainian-armed-forces-need-to-do-to-win/
I'm not actually against this idea, but they have no right to "demand" subsidies that are not willingly given by secular Jews who see no value in their activities, and they differ from monks by not being composed of volunteers, but of people born into the order, who have not been given a choice (anyone can leave, theoretically, but it's tough making such a drastic change for most of).
On second thought, it brings up the general problem of whether it is fair and just for a state to monopolize access to all land and resources and then narrowly restrict access based on its own priorities. In other words the state monopolizes all productive land and then offers people a highly restricted set of activities in exchange for access, that may not reflect the individuals priorities or values (don't want to be a computer programmer? Starve).
I was very briefly touching on this in my discussion with Silvio, but seem in the broader context of economics the Haredis may not be so wrong after all, now that I think about it. Of course, if Haredim refuse to do military service than they ought to accept the consequences of that, which is conquest by Arabs.Replies: @Beckow, @German_reader
Monks have neither sex (apart maybe from illicit homo sex) nor children (unless they already had a family before taking vows), so this is a very imperfect analogy.
One can disagree with this of course, but one ought to see it in context and as it relates to similar, even if not identical, phenomena in other societies.
Still, I prefer Beckows understanding of them as pioneering UB and economic justice :)Replies: @German_reader
Aaron isn’t much concerned with facts or evidence, that is getting pretty obvious at this point. His primary concern seems to be feeding himself feelgood stories. I’m not sure what exactly is so feelgood about likening haredis to monks, but if that is the (fact-free, as you point out) story that Aaron is going with, it’s fairly safe to assume he sees a feelgood angle in it.
Yes, it’s a highly imperfect analogy, but its the closest thing Judaism has to an order of monkhood – and I believe their rationales are the same, that a lifetimes devotion to constant prayer and religious practices and study are perhaps the most important contribution to society and play a huge role in the survival and success of that community. For the sake of a few righteous men….
One can disagree with this of course, but one ought to see it in context and as it relates to similar, even if not identical, phenomena in other societies.
Still, I prefer Beckows understanding of them as pioneering UB and economic justice 🙂
Monks have neither sex (apart maybe from illicit homo sex) nor children (unless they already had a family before taking vows), so this is a very imperfect analogy.
I used to assume there were a lot of gays among monks and nuns until I met some of them.
It attracts more of an asexual personality type.
I actually knew a guy that went off to a Monastery. He really didn’t fit in with society and didn’t identify with men of any type. He tried working a couple types of jobs and it was a disaster. I assumed all 22 year olds wanted to chase women until I met this guy. He was happiest when reading or discussing the bible. I don’t think he had sexual drive of any type. I met some nuns and got the same vibe. They don’t want to be in society. People project a sexual drive onto them that doesn’t exist in most cases. I don’t doubt there are gays that use it as cover but they aren’t the norm. Probably less of that now that homosexuality is celebrated.
It has a room devoted to local writers on the wilderness with books and displays, and what I call spiritual music playing. It's very cool that they emphasize the connection between spirituality and the wilderness like that.
Anyways, I interacted with an extremely tall Black monk, bought the letters of Thomas Merton from the bookstore. He was wearing long black robes and he just seemed like a wizard, it gave me a strange supernatural thrill.
He was a sweet man and had such an impractical and otherworldly air to him that I immediately thought it would be impossible for him to function in regular society, and I wondered if that's why he entered the monastery or if living the spiritual life made him useless in ordinary competitive society.
I have a lot of the monk in my nature and long to retreat to my wilderness hermitage, and find I can just barely function in normal society - just barely, and I'm becoming more useless by the day I think. I suspect I will return from my trip out West several degrees more useless to society than now! Each trip I grow more and more useless and distant from normal society.
But I can't fit into any conventional religion nor abide by restrictive social structures, so I think the Taoist model of the Old Man Laughing in the Mountains will be more my lot as I age, wandering the high peaks im bliss and freedom until the vultures pick my bones clean.Replies: @Sean
One can disagree with this of course, but one ought to see it in context and as it relates to similar, even if not identical, phenomena in other societies.
Still, I prefer Beckows understanding of them as pioneering UB and economic justice :)Replies: @German_reader
It’s not ubi either, since it’s not universal.
Homos in the clergy and in monasteries were a problem already in the 11th century. Petrus Damiani wrote a book about it (liber Gomorrhanus). iirc he recommended infibulation as treatment.
Was definitely a problem in the 1970s and 80s.
Seems like for a long period it was the Catholic way to let gays quietly serve as priests and nuns.
Have 5 kids and if one comes out gay then send him to the priesthood.Replies: @Wokechoke
As for Mizrahi Jews, I think the motivation happens when you are a minority within a state, although to some degree it's also intra-state - I don't think Israelis are genetically better fighters than Arabs, just much, much more motivated, for instance, and that motivation has systemic effects throughout the military system, including several unique design features and practices.
That being said, Mizrahi Jews have significantly upped their performance as a result of motivation - for instance, the Ashkenazim used to be the much better soldiers, but today the Mizrahi units are considered easily as good as the Ashkenazi.
Motivation is s highly "plastic" trait that works together with our complex brains to process data from the environment and develop the best strategy for concentrating performance. It does not make sense for every community to concentrate academically.
For instance, Jews were not notably smart in the ancient world - but the Christians forbade them from using weapons or working the land, so they had no choice but to concentrate in intellectual endeavors. The Mizrahim did not face anything close to the restrictions on economic activity and lifestyle that the Ashkenazi did, and so were not under anything close to the same pressure - never the less, the Mizrahim often achieved higher position as a community than the native, as in Spain, Cairo, and elsewhere. The Syrian Jewish community is fabulously wealthy, btw.
The Africans were the majority in South Africa it's the Whites who were the majority, and Blacks in America faced unique hurdles that Jews didn't that maybe made more sense for them to develop their athletic and cultural abilities. Relative to Africans, Blacks are a significantly overperforming minority culturally in America - in fact, relative to Whites, too, which is remarkable considering their status despised as ex slaves.
The Japanese went from being a feudal warrior society to great industrialists and merchants in a generation.
Perhaps one may think of people as possessing a certain "quantum" of energy and force that they can "project" in a particular direction as the situation dictates.
Of course, I accepted that innate ability plays a significant role too, just not as significant as you think.Replies: @Greasy William, @John Johnson, @Wokechoke
For instance, Jews were not notably smart in the ancient world – but the Christians forbade them from using weapons or working the land, so they had no choice but to concentrate in intellectual endeavors.
That’s a bit of an oversimplification that conveniently blames Christians.
Jewish urbanization existed before those laws were created.
Jewish urban merchants in Europe pre-date Christianity. There are even recordings of Jewish merchants by the Greeks. Jews were also in Egypt and Turkey a few thousand years ago.
Laws in European countries that restricted Jews were much later.
The Africans were the majority in South Africa it’s the Whites who were the majority, and Blacks in America faced unique hurdles that Jews didn’t that maybe made more sense for them to develop their athletic and cultural abilities.
Develop their athletic abilities? You think there would be more Jewish linebackers if they only focused more on that area? Me thinks you have some gene denial.
African-Americans are actually much larger than their Bantu relatives in Africa. This is because they were cross-bred with large Whites and Hispanics during slavery. If you sent every Xhosa to football training camps you still wouldn’t have as many potential NFL players.
And I'm not blaming Christianity at all - racism and religious discrimination is a perversion of Christianity, and not at all it's true spirit.
But Christian societies in Europe did at some point turn to very severe restrictions on Jews, which led to a shift in Jewish strategy.
I don't deny genes - I'm quite prepared to admit that American Blacks had physiques that made the decision to focus on athleticism instead of intellectualism easier and more natural - and that is perhaps unfortunate, if totally understandable.
I admit a generic - or an innate heritable, let us say - component, but it is far trickier to pin down and far less determinative than people here would wish it to be.
Ukrainian “counter-offensive” started yesterday (although officially Ukie puppets say that it did not start, apparently will announce when and if they achieve anything with PR value). So far mostly failures, with bad PR for Western weapons (including particularly devastating PR for French tanks AMX-10R).
As empty hot air here affects exactly nothing, I discontinue my participation in worthless discussions. Bye-bye.
Take care of yourself, all the best.Replies: @AnonfromTN
The Ukroreikh is all about pitiful PR stunts combined with schizophrenic stupidity - June 22nd would have been a "perfection" of this.
I look at the thread here as entertainment, and as with any entertainment moderation is key. I will say that I've learned a reasonable amount and been grateful for some great book and movie suggestions. I get your point entirely though and the same impulse keeps my footprint light.
You have always been a level headed contributor around here though and will be missed!
As empty hot air here affects exactly nothing, I discontinue my participation in worthless discussions. Bye-bye.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234, @sudden death, @Barbarossa
Disagree with you about a lot, but I will miss your comments.
Take care of yourself, all the best.
Commenting here is worthless and non-adaptive, like displacement behavior in animals when they are hopelessly confused and/or frightened out of their wits.
If I manage to transfer some money to Russia despite current roadblocks, I would be able to do something real, like helping civilian victims of Ukie aggression.
All the best to you!Replies: @QCIC, @orchardist
I was in Monastery of Christ in the Desert in New Mexico last summer, it’s very beautifully situated in a red rock canyon down a ten mile dirt road, which is a fun drive.
It has a room devoted to local writers on the wilderness with books and displays, and what I call spiritual music playing. It’s very cool that they emphasize the connection between spirituality and the wilderness like that.
Anyways, I interacted with an extremely tall Black monk, bought the letters of Thomas Merton from the bookstore. He was wearing long black robes and he just seemed like a wizard, it gave me a strange supernatural thrill.
He was a sweet man and had such an impractical and otherworldly air to him that I immediately thought it would be impossible for him to function in regular society, and I wondered if that’s why he entered the monastery or if living the spiritual life made him useless in ordinary competitive society.
I have a lot of the monk in my nature and long to retreat to my wilderness hermitage, and find I can just barely function in normal society – just barely, and I’m becoming more useless by the day I think. I suspect I will return from my trip out West several degrees more useless to society than now! Each trip I grow more and more useless and distant from normal society.
But I can’t fit into any conventional religion nor abide by restrictive social structures, so I think the Taoist model of the Old Man Laughing in the Mountains will be more my lot as I age, wandering the high peaks im bliss and freedom until the vultures pick my bones clean.
Homos in the clergy and in monasteries were a problem already in the 11th century. Petrus Damiani wrote a book about it (liber Gomorrhanus). iirc he recommended infibulation as treatment.
Was definitely a problem in the 1970s and 80s.
Seems like for a long period it was the Catholic way to let gays quietly serve as priests and nuns.
Have 5 kids and if one comes out gay then send him to the priesthood.
As empty hot air here affects exactly nothing, I discontinue my participation in worthless discussions. Bye-bye.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234, @sudden death, @Barbarossa
Dissapointed this failure was not started on June 22nd………..
The Ukroreikh is all about pitiful PR stunts combined with schizophrenic stupidity – June 22nd would have been a “perfection” of this.
That's a bit of an oversimplification that conveniently blames Christians.
Jewish urbanization existed before those laws were created.
Jewish urban merchants in Europe pre-date Christianity. There are even recordings of Jewish merchants by the Greeks. Jews were also in Egypt and Turkey a few thousand years ago.
Laws in European countries that restricted Jews were much later.
The Africans were the majority in South Africa it’s the Whites who were the majority, and Blacks in America faced unique hurdles that Jews didn’t that maybe made more sense for them to develop their athletic and cultural abilities.
Develop their athletic abilities? You think there would be more Jewish linebackers if they only focused more on that area? Me thinks you have some gene denial.
African-Americans are actually much larger than their Bantu relatives in Africa. This is because they were cross-bred with large Whites and Hispanics during slavery. If you sent every Xhosa to football training camps you still wouldn't have as many potential NFL players.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
That’s definitely true as regards Jewish urbanization, that it was a feature of the ancient world and predated Christianity, but Jews did not stand out for being intellectual in the ancient world despite being urbanized, so its likely they did not yet feel compelled to concentrate in intellectual activities as a national strategy – although Jews had already at that point a significant scholarly culture it was the Greeks who were outstanding intellectually.
And I’m not blaming Christianity at all – racism and religious discrimination is a perversion of Christianity, and not at all it’s true spirit.
But Christian societies in Europe did at some point turn to very severe restrictions on Jews, which led to a shift in Jewish strategy.
I don’t deny genes – I’m quite prepared to admit that American Blacks had physiques that made the decision to focus on athleticism instead of intellectualism easier and more natural – and that is perhaps unfortunate, if totally understandable.
I admit a generic – or an innate heritable, let us say – component, but it is far trickier to pin down and far less determinative than people here would wish it to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP2fZvDsn1kThe Putin bootlickin' bloggers aren't talking about it. They *want to believe* Russia is united behind the homicidal dwarf and all dissenters must be Jews. Scott Ritter referred to the anti-Putin Russian fighters as Ukrainian just like Russian State TV. What a jack off. MacGregor is looking stressed in his latest video. Maybe he should ask Prigozhin for a job? Probably more likely to pay than Putin.Replies: @Lurker
I’ve noticed this ambiguous terminology elsewhere. These guys have only been operating on the border, just inside the Belgorod oblast. They have never made it anywhere near Belgorod – the more significant town miles from the border.
Do these attacks automatically invoke some level of martial law? Was martial law already in place as part of the SMO and if so, how do these attacks change matters?
Assuming the attackers are actually Russian citizens, does this leave dealing with them under the legal purview of domestic terrorist laws as opposed to rules which apply to foreign combatants or foreign terrorists?
Take care of yourself, all the best.Replies: @AnonfromTN
Thanks! I just have a lot of things to write that can actually make a difference, at least for the scientific field I am in.
Commenting here is worthless and non-adaptive, like displacement behavior in animals when they are hopelessly confused and/or frightened out of their wits.
If I manage to transfer some money to Russia despite current roadblocks, I would be able to do something real, like helping civilian victims of Ukie aggression.
All the best to you!
Best
I should like Mr. Hack to watch some of those Nork comedy films that I heard were on YouTube a few years ago, and to recommend the best one here.
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Have heard that native Irish sources don’t say anything about putative pirate queen Grace O’Malley because she was a woman.
https://i.etsystatic.com/17699147/r/il/ccc6fe/1743044374/il_fullxfull.1743044374_jrgu.jpg
"Perfect for any occasion"
Why pick on me? Are you trying to get me to bail, like poor Professor Tennessee?Replies: @songbird
There would probably be no Jews left today without the Persian friendly and loving help. Of course nobody expects some gratitude from the Jewish people. When the time is right they always switch sides and do some backstabbing against those who helped and protected them. This is a recurring historical pattern.
Also, for an anti-American Jew, you are still typically ignorant of the historical context as most Americans are. That makes me think you are just a disgruntled American. Perhaps you should come to terms with your American personality, fuse it harmoniously with your Jewishness, embrace some funny Haredi cult (the Na-nach would do), get married and live a happy life fathering a dozen children and dying a respected patriarch?
https://youtu.be/gSoMvDJyp0wReplies: @silviosilver, @S, @Greasy William
The Iranian people never helped out the Jews, Cyrus did. That’s one guy, not an entire nation. On the contrary, the Iranian people wanted to kill the Jews but Cyrus stopped them. That’s the whole point of the Purim story. Jews and Iranians have always been enemies and this has always been acknowledged until Israel was created and people suddenly decided that actually they really were always BFF’s.
For my own sake, I try not to hate anyone (except for white liberals, but that doesn’t count as white liberals are subhumans who should all be dead), however, I really dislike Iranians and Lebanese. And in both cases it isn’t just the antisemitism. Antisemitism by itself usually doesn’t bother me. What bothers me about Iranians and Lebanese is the combination of antisemitism with unreal levels of arrogance and a totally unjustified sense of superiority.
The Iranians and Lebanese are both extremely primitive and stupid peoples. Their countries are absolute garbage and always have been. When Solemaini was assassinated, the Iranian response was to shoot down one of their own airliners, killing 300 of their own people. Then they trampled 80 people to death at Solemaini’s funeral. This is primitive behavior that you only see in third world countries and you saw it because the Iranians are a third world people.
We know form Nazi communications that the Iranians were the non German nation that was most sympathetic to Nazism. The Iranians responded far more favorably to Nazism than even the Arabs did, which is saying a lot because the Arabs themselves were huge fans of Nazism.
You can tell a lot about a people by who hates them and who admires them. I have never seen an antisemite who didn’t absolutely love Iranians, to the point of regarding them as some sort of master race. And it’s simply not true. Iranians are morons and just because they have managed to make better drones than Turkey and keep their fleet of F-17s flying through a mixture of cannibalization of existing stocks, smuggling and knock off parts from Russia and China (as Iranians themselves are too stupid to make replacement parts for a 1960s aircraft) doesn’t change that. Also, they got absolutely waxed by Saddam in their war and the cowardly Iranians were expecting the international community to bail them out. Once they saw that wouldn’t happen they folded like the impotent cowards they always have been.
I don’t even like Iranian Jews, if I’m being honest. They have debased Iranian blood.
Despite all this, I still support Iran against the United States. I simply cannot make myself support the US. Death to America.
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Re MarbledSteaks comment about Amalek: Amalek is a spiritual lineage, not a physical one. Hasidic tradition held long before Hitler was even in politics that an Amalekite would eventually rule Germany. Any Kabbalist will tell you that those hung at Nuremberg were Haman’s reincarnated sons (Goering was the reincarnation of Haman’s daughter). This is hardly new stuff.
Yahya is right that the Persians and Lebanese are some of the most cultured and refined people in the Middle East and their cultures are some of the most interesting. They have shitty rulers, although they cannot be absolved of all blame - none of us can for the shitty state of our society.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry
So before we continue this dialog, I am inclined to ask whether you are somewhat interested in historical truths or if the Judeo-Biblical BS is sufficient for your level of intelligence?
I am asking because it would take me some time to explain everything you got wrong with this idiotic comment of yours.
I have grown lazy lately and I am not inclined anymore in writing lengthy replies.
I would spare myself the effort if you keep being as closed-minded as you were while writing all this garbage above.
🙂
And yeah, before you answer, do you know why the Babylonian Talmud is named the way it is, and who ruled the land where the two academies in which it was written down were located?Replies: @Dmitry
No, all Muslims in a given country agree on all issues
tl;dr- wishes "Palestine" had become part of the UK rather than seeking Israeli independence
- hates Mizrahi culture and wishes they had never arrived (elsewhere I've heard him say "this country wasn't made for you")
- says it would have been better if, "like in Herzl's Europe," everybody [in Israel] were white, everybody speaking German
- the interviewer tells him his wife is Yemeni Jew; Hetsroni: "How low can you go?!?"Unfortunately, in a thousand other ways he is a standard leftist degenerate idiot, and mostly gives evasive answers.Replies: @Yahya, @Ivashka the fool, @Dmitry, @Mr. XYZ
That’s a kind of troll or comedian.
He says anti-Moroccan racists views and he jokes about himself.
Then Moroccans hits him with a chair and he cries and is more racist.
Then the media in Israel laughs about it.
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If you ignore all the Israel-Palestinian violence, the country feels like quite organized, liberal place. Maybe not so different than New Zealand or Canada etc.
But unlike New Zealand or Canada, the population in Israel are not sophisticated anglosaxons, but simple rednecks. Beating the nerds is kind of national hobby.
I guess Hetsroni is an example of someone who is choosing to be a kind of role, because it gives him attention.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-219/#comment-5993717
What's their excuse exactly? Neither from a country that has been attacked by Russia nor Russian "dissidents".Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Mr. XYZ, @Pixo, @Mikel
It looks like an intelligent provocation by the Ukrainians. If constant raids and shelling of mainland Russia doesn’t force them to divert enough forces from the fronts, let’s try invading Russian sovereign territory with Polish soldiers.
But of course they’re playing with fire, as they’ve done from the beginning. I don’t see too much outrage in Russian TG channels though. Perhaps the idea that Russia if effectively fighting NATO sank in a long time ago and everybody’s now concentrated on the actual Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Southeast, which could well be as successful as the one last year.
Only one thing is for certain: if some Russian politician utters some threat against Poland for this provocation many people in Eastern Europe will interpret it as further proof of Russia’s imperialist threat and Western MSM will also report it as such, not having informed of the earlier Polish militants’ incursion.
Here are a few possibilities:
-Prompt Russia to act precipitously in a way that would draw NATO into the fighting more visibly? I don't know what this action would be, perhaps major airstrikes on Kiev? I don't know what NATO could do about that.
-Distract Russia from the fighting in Ukraine? How?
-Promote regime change in Russia? How?
-Cause Russia to expand call ups and mobilization? How does this benefit Ukraine?
-Cause Russia to clamp down on internal dissent?Replies: @Beckow
If it's the former, it may not matter that much. If it's the latter, well, that should change a lot of things (but of course it wouldn't).
Anyway, I probably should stop commenting on this war. Read a prediction in a piece by Samuel Charap (in Foreign affairs, in case anyone is interested) that the war might last a decade, unless there's a determined effort for bringing about a ceasefire (which seems pretty unlikely). Haha, just great. Though I'm beginning to no longer care. Given the trajectory of Western societies, it might just as well end in nuclear annihilation from my pov.Replies: @Mr. XYZ
I’d read a lot more history, if more of it survived, and if there was more of a prospect of connecting to it genealogically, however difficult the process might be.
I wonder if attacks within Russia change the legal definition of the conflict? The SMO was “special” and may have been legally restricted.
Do these attacks automatically invoke some level of martial law? Was martial law already in place as part of the SMO and if so, how do these attacks change matters?
Assuming the attackers are actually Russian citizens, does this leave dealing with them under the legal purview of domestic terrorist laws as opposed to rules which apply to foreign combatants or foreign terrorists?
69% of Finns trust most of the news most of the time.
(Don’t know who made up these numbers.)
https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/7248.jpeg
The U.S. groups well with the most cynical Europeans.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/where-trust-news-highest-lowest
As empty hot air here affects exactly nothing, I discontinue my participation in worthless discussions. Bye-bye.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234, @sudden death, @Barbarossa
Strelkov’s opinion for comparison:
https://t.me/strelkovii/5273
There will be efforts to drag the Russian reserves from place to place until they bunch up and leave large gaps.Replies: @Sean
A word of caution before you leave for the West. Red Rock country canyons have been quite dangerous this spring. There have already been some fatalities. We’ve had a combination of risk factors since early May. On the one hand, we’ve had the snowiest winter in Utah since records began. This means unprecedented amounts of melt water flowing through the river beds. Apparently, most of the melt is occurring during the sunshine hours in the high terrain and some hours later it shows up in the canyons downstream as a sudden wall of water. On the other hand, we’ve been stuck in a monsoon kind of pattern for a month now. Again, sporadic heavy rainfall is falling at high elevations and creating the typical summer flash flood conditions later on in the canyons. No park is closed but there’s been lots of warnings to stay out of the slot canyons.
I’ve been reading on the Sierra High Route and this guy has an excellent report of his trip in 2017 with gorgeous pictures: https://www.trailnamebackstroke.com/sierra-high-route-2017 but I’ve actually cooled down on the idea of doing this route after reading about those swarms of mosquitos in some parts of the hike. Apparently, the benign California climate creates Arctic-like conditions in the swampy areas of the High Sierras and in summer you have to face the same conditions as in Northern Canada or Siberia. That’s a much bigger concern for me than bears. I know for a fact that as soon as news of my presence spread, half the mosquitoes in California will abandon their prey and come for me instead. Perhaps I should try it outside of the summer months or somehow skip those swampy areas. Or perhaps it’s just a sporadic problem. I’ve camped in the high Yosemite terrain in summer and didn’t have any issues.
It has a room devoted to local writers on the wilderness with books and displays, and what I call spiritual music playing. It's very cool that they emphasize the connection between spirituality and the wilderness like that.
Anyways, I interacted with an extremely tall Black monk, bought the letters of Thomas Merton from the bookstore. He was wearing long black robes and he just seemed like a wizard, it gave me a strange supernatural thrill.
He was a sweet man and had such an impractical and otherworldly air to him that I immediately thought it would be impossible for him to function in regular society, and I wondered if that's why he entered the monastery or if living the spiritual life made him useless in ordinary competitive society.
I have a lot of the monk in my nature and long to retreat to my wilderness hermitage, and find I can just barely function in normal society - just barely, and I'm becoming more useless by the day I think. I suspect I will return from my trip out West several degrees more useless to society than now! Each trip I grow more and more useless and distant from normal society.
But I can't fit into any conventional religion nor abide by restrictive social structures, so I think the Taoist model of the Old Man Laughing in the Mountains will be more my lot as I age, wandering the high peaks im bliss and freedom until the vultures pick my bones clean.Replies: @Sean
According to Carl Schmitt, he real world is for those who identify the enemy, who one might have to kill, which is politics. Not doing this is religion. At some moments in history where the authority of the Church has suddenly declined, priests and nuns have left their holy orders and got married. Not just back in the Reformation, the collapse of Catholicism in Quebec saw this happening. So you cannot say those who are asexual with an ethereal presence are the essence of religion whether organised or otherwise.
The more I read about Carl Schmitt the more he seems like an awful person.Replies: @Coconuts
But of course they're playing with fire, as they've done from the beginning. I don't see too much outrage in Russian TG channels though. Perhaps the idea that Russia if effectively fighting NATO sank in a long time ago and everybody's now concentrated on the actual Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Southeast, which could well be as successful as the one last year.
Only one thing is for certain: if some Russian politician utters some threat against Poland for this provocation many people in Eastern Europe will interpret it as further proof of Russia's imperialist threat and Western MSM will also report it as such, not having informed of the earlier Polish militants' incursion.Replies: @QCIC, @German_reader
This can’t be a surprise for Russia. What is the Ukrainian goal for these attacks, if any?
Here are a few possibilities:
-Prompt Russia to act precipitously in a way that would draw NATO into the fighting more visibly? I don’t know what this action would be, perhaps major airstrikes on Kiev? I don’t know what NATO could do about that.
-Distract Russia from the fighting in Ukraine? How?
-Promote regime change in Russia? How?
-Cause Russia to expand call ups and mobilization? How does this benefit Ukraine?
-Cause Russia to clamp down on internal dissent?
From Anatoly Crimeus Karlin:
By that logic, should Western rightoids have supported the Nazis, Italian Fascists, and Imperial Japanese during WWII? After all, had these countries won WWII, it’s entirely possible that they would have been more attractive right-wing models (minus the genocide/ethnic cleansing) relative to the West (which in real life succumbed to liberalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, and eventually Wokeness) in the post-WWII decades.
xxxhttps://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/4ewqsn/war_sentiment_by_states_from_a_gallup_poll_in/
Apparently Southerners (the most based and rightoid part of the US) were the part of the US who were most eager for the US to enter WWII before Pearl Harbor.
Anyway, back to my main point:
A victorious Russia in Ukraine would not have prevented Western rightoids from being oppressed back in their home countries and it would not have been a very impressive civilizational model either due to the fact that it doesn’t spend that much on R & D relative to the EU and doesn’t have that much elite science production relative to the EU either. There’s also the little problem that smart Russians are less favorably inclined towards Russian nationalism than smart Ukrainians are towards (moderate) Ukrainian nationalism. Ukraine is more ideal for right-wingers since nationalism there appeals even more to elites than it does to ordinary people, the inverse of the human capital problem that rightoids experience in most other countries worldwide.
Commenting here is worthless and non-adaptive, like displacement behavior in animals when they are hopelessly confused and/or frightened out of their wits.
If I manage to transfer some money to Russia despite current roadblocks, I would be able to do something real, like helping civilian victims of Ukie aggression.
All the best to you!Replies: @QCIC, @orchardist
Good luck unlocking Nature’s secrets!
https://i.redd.it/tn21ihc9c64b1.jpg
(Don't know who made up these numbers.)Replies: @A123
It is from a Reuters study. (1)
The U.S. groups well with the most cynical Europeans.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/where-trust-news-highest-lowest
The Ukrainian military spokesman said only the other day the counterattack will be disguised by diversionary pseudo offensives. So that is what Kiev wants the Kremlin to think, because it will not be happening, This initial push is along the main axis of attack. Low quality equipped mainly ethnic Russian Ukrainian units will be used first to soak up Russian firepower and the main weight of the Ukrainian force equipped to Nato standards will be thrown in subsequently but only if there seems to be a chance of making headway. Which there probably won’t be. Zelensky is intending to do just enough to keep Western support at the current level and no more than will enable the offensive core of his army to remain intact, unless it is opportune to go all out.
Mr. Consistent Senior strikes again;)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/06/01/trump-says-he-doesnt-like-the-term-woke-the-republican-buzzword-hes-repeatedly-used/?sh=288cc8011953
So, yet another swing and an miss by the highly emotional & increasingly desperate #NeverTrump cultists.
Why do you support Not-The-President Biden?
PEACE 😇
To elaborate on this: Russia should not have placed Western rightoids in a position where they “needed” to choose between supporting Ukrainian independence and supporting greater economies of scale for Russia. Had Russians actually been willing to breed much more, similar to Israeli Jews, then Western rightoids could have had both of these things without any problem or conflicts. But No, Russians don’t care about achieving greater economies of scale the ethical way. It’s either through conquest or not at all! 🙁
By Anatoly Crimeus Karlin’s logic, should Western rightoids have supported Japan’s conquest of Manchuria in 1931 (likely against the will of the Manchurian people), Japan’s attempted conquest of the rest of China in 1937 and beyond (against the will of the Chinese people), and Nazi Germany’s conquest of Czechia in early 1939 (against the will of the Czech people; this was before Nazi Germany began engaging in mass murder) because this would make Japan and Nazi Germany more attractive alternative right-wing models relative to the West?
I do not like using spectrum “Left/Right”. Trump is pro-worker Populists. Is that Left! Or, Right? That being stated, one has to use words that the target audience will understand. I thus use those terms even though I do not particularly like them.
So, yet another swing and an miss by the highly emotional & increasingly desperate #NeverTrump cultists.
Why do you support Not-The-President Biden?
PEACE 😇
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Have heard that native Irish sources don't say anything about putative pirate queen Grace O'Malley because she was a woman.Replies: @Mr. Hack
“Nork Comedy” films? Is that some sort of dark Norwegian faire? Why waste your time and not go straight to the Finnish school of realism?
“Perfect for any occasion”
Why pick on me? Are you trying to get me to bail, like poor Professor Tennessee?
Some years ago, I heard some guy mention that you can find a lot of subtitled old North Korean comedy films on YouTube. He contended that many of them were quite funny, but that they studiously avoided anything the regime might consider political.
I thought of you mainly because I believe you are the biggest enthusiast of black and white films here.
For my own sake, I try not to hate anyone (except for white liberals, but that doesn't count as white liberals are subhumans who should all be dead), however, I really dislike Iranians and Lebanese. And in both cases it isn't just the antisemitism. Antisemitism by itself usually doesn't bother me. What bothers me about Iranians and Lebanese is the combination of antisemitism with unreal levels of arrogance and a totally unjustified sense of superiority.
The Iranians and Lebanese are both extremely primitive and stupid peoples. Their countries are absolute garbage and always have been. When Solemaini was assassinated, the Iranian response was to shoot down one of their own airliners, killing 300 of their own people. Then they trampled 80 people to death at Solemaini's funeral. This is primitive behavior that you only see in third world countries and you saw it because the Iranians are a third world people.
We know form Nazi communications that the Iranians were the non German nation that was most sympathetic to Nazism. The Iranians responded far more favorably to Nazism than even the Arabs did, which is saying a lot because the Arabs themselves were huge fans of Nazism.
You can tell a lot about a people by who hates them and who admires them. I have never seen an antisemite who didn't absolutely love Iranians, to the point of regarding them as some sort of master race. And it's simply not true. Iranians are morons and just because they have managed to make better drones than Turkey and keep their fleet of F-17s flying through a mixture of cannibalization of existing stocks, smuggling and knock off parts from Russia and China (as Iranians themselves are too stupid to make replacement parts for a 1960s aircraft) doesn't change that. Also, they got absolutely waxed by Saddam in their war and the cowardly Iranians were expecting the international community to bail them out. Once they saw that wouldn't happen they folded like the impotent cowards they always have been.
I don't even like Iranian Jews, if I'm being honest. They have debased Iranian blood.
Despite all this, I still support Iran against the United States. I simply cannot make myself support the US. Death to America.
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Re MarbledSteaks comment about Amalek: Amalek is a spiritual lineage, not a physical one. Hasidic tradition held long before Hitler was even in politics that an Amalekite would eventually rule Germany. Any Kabbalist will tell you that those hung at Nuremberg were Haman's reincarnated sons (Goering was the reincarnation of Haman's daughter). This is hardly new stuff.Replies: @Yahya, @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @Ivashka the fool
Actually, Persians and Lebanese are the two most cultured and intelligent people in the Middle East.
Just admit it, you don’t like them because Hezbollah bitch-slapped the IDF back to Tel Aviv.
Of course, now I am more measured in my view of things.
I don't like Lebanese because they are dirty and stupid but I will admit that the way they saved the settlements in Judea and Samaria in 2006 was praiseworthy. 1. Sure they are: just ask them.
2. Iranians. There is no such thing as Persians. That's not the issue. The issue is that they acted like it was some great achievement to defeat an army that hadn't won a war in nearly 40 years and had already been thoroughly defeated by rock armed Palestinian teenagers. It would be like me bragging about winning a street fight against a wheelchair bound midget.
A word of caution before you leave for the West. Red Rock country canyons have been quite dangerous this spring. There have already been some fatalities. We've had a combination of risk factors since early May. On the one hand, we've had the snowiest winter in Utah since records began. This means unprecedented amounts of melt water flowing through the river beds. Apparently, most of the melt is occurring during the sunshine hours in the high terrain and some hours later it shows up in the canyons downstream as a sudden wall of water. On the other hand, we've been stuck in a monsoon kind of pattern for a month now. Again, sporadic heavy rainfall is falling at high elevations and creating the typical summer flash flood conditions later on in the canyons. No park is closed but there's been lots of warnings to stay out of the slot canyons.
I've been reading on the Sierra High Route and this guy has an excellent report of his trip in 2017 with gorgeous pictures: https://www.trailnamebackstroke.com/sierra-high-route-2017 but I've actually cooled down on the idea of doing this route after reading about those swarms of mosquitos in some parts of the hike. Apparently, the benign California climate creates Arctic-like conditions in the swampy areas of the High Sierras and in summer you have to face the same conditions as in Northern Canada or Siberia. That's a much bigger concern for me than bears. I know for a fact that as soon as news of my presence spread, half the mosquitoes in California will abandon their prey and come for me instead. Perhaps I should try it outside of the summer months or somehow skip those swampy areas. Or perhaps it's just a sporadic problem. I've camped in the high Yosemite terrain in summer and didn't have any issues.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Thanks for all that info Mikel – that’s definitely helpful, and I might end up going to Montana this early in the summer, where I’ve never explored extensively. I won’t really be able to access the high country but maybe there are lower elevation hikes worth doing and just generally basking in the scenery.
I’m still very undecided. But I’m not too worried because my work pattern for the next few months will be one month away, and a few weeks back, repeat – so lots of trips this summer and fall and I won’t miss out!
Last September I actually ran into a flash flood hiking the Canyonlands Syncline Loop – I was the only idiot on the trail for hours, until I noticed that the sky was ominously black, and suddenly remembered the danger of flash floods in canyon country lol.
I reached the climb up out of the canyon section by the skin of my teeth, when just then the heavens opened and it poured. Moments later a deep rumbling sound and water and debris gushing through where I had been standing a short while before.
It was only 2-3 feet high so I don’t think it wouldn’t have swept me away or killed me, but it would have made my day much more difficult, and was a sobering reminder of the power of nature.
It was beautiful though – sudden waterfalls came crashing off the high cliffs in four different areas, it was incredible.
I have heard this winter was unusually wet out West.
Thanks for they website on the high route – I’ll definitely look into that!
My understanding is that the mosquitos are mostly gone by September, which is when I plan on going, but I’m not sure. Its an issue not to be taken lightly though, I agree.
But with permethtin on clothes and deer, and maybe a head net, it might be ok.
In the Wind River Range the muzzies are largely gone by August. My first August there there were none, last summer there was very light muzzie pressure but no big deal. So there is variance.
This year the black flies have been killing me in upstate NY for some reason – truly a scourge!
But I suppose this is what we must out up with for beauty.
https://i.ibb.co/WvpmNZh/utahJune.jpgReplies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
Here are a few possibilities:
-Prompt Russia to act precipitously in a way that would draw NATO into the fighting more visibly? I don't know what this action would be, perhaps major airstrikes on Kiev? I don't know what NATO could do about that.
-Distract Russia from the fighting in Ukraine? How?
-Promote regime change in Russia? How?
-Cause Russia to expand call ups and mobilization? How does this benefit Ukraine?
-Cause Russia to clamp down on internal dissent?Replies: @Beckow
That seems to be the main reason, and the media-morale benefits in Ukraine and the West.
Ukraine needs to stretch the Russian forces along the very long potential front. Russia has underpowered its war effort so far and they are thinly stretched. It makes any local Ukie offensive more likely to succeed.
It is strategically self-defeating and accelerates Russia’s gathering of its strength. It would only work if Russia would decide to pack up and agree to a compromise – the best outcome that Kiev can hope for. But the constant escalations and provocations are making it less likely. All it does is the increased cost in human lives, Western treasure, prolongs the war and makes any deal impossible.
But it is useful for Zelko and his sponsors, so the escalations will continue. These guys are so short-sided they couldn’t fight their way out of a potato sack…
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I think some of these recent attacks look like Russian false flags. The goal may be to create popular support and justification for moving on Kharkov.
My wild speculation:
The Russians will beef up border security from Belarus to Luhansk over the next several weeks. They will put out warnings that Kharkiv is at risk, so any helpless or retarded civilians still there will leave as best they can. Russia might open some sort of additional corridors for civilian refugees from the city to pass into Russia. While this is occurring the Russian missile attacks across the rest of the country will continue, possibly with more emphasis on rail infrastructure to the West.
Next they will destroy any serious air defense capabilities remaining within 50 miles of the city, even out to Poltava. This will be completed using coordinated attacks with missiles and aircraft. Once the main SAMS are destroyed they will bomb all militarily relevant targets in and around the city. I think this campaign will use Su-34 and Tu-22M aircraft. Fuel bunkers, ammo dumps, airport runways and rail yards will be destroyed first. Next will be substations and communications infrastructure. This stage may proceed gradually as they monitor what the Ukrainians are doing in other areas of the conflict.
The actual capture of the city of Kharkov is difficult for me to visualize. Wiki lists the metro population as ~ 1.7 million. Does anyone know how many people are still there? Whatever the number, the Ukrainian forces will use their own civilians as human shields making things as difficult as possible for the Russian troops. The way it plays out may depend on the number of AFU troops+NeoNazis+Ukr partisans versus the number of helpless civilians+non-combatants actually in the Kharkov metropolitan area. If the percentage of active fighters is high they may just lay siege. If there is a high proportion of civilians they may go in house to house. This depends on the the numbers on both sides including how many troops is Russia willing to commit to capture the city outright.
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If the Ukrainian leadership were smart they would surrender tomorrow. All of the surviving troops could potentially be organized into a fifth column and become a pain for Russia after the SMO ends. Eventually they will figure this out, but the cocky Ukrainians will demand unacceptable preconditions and concessions which will give Russia time to keep hammering away.Replies: @Derer
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"Perfect for any occasion"
Why pick on me? Are you trying to get me to bail, like poor Professor Tennessee?Replies: @songbird
Nork=North Korean
Some years ago, I heard some guy mention that you can find a lot of subtitled old North Korean comedy films on YouTube. He contended that many of them were quite funny, but that they studiously avoided anything the regime might consider political.
I thought of you mainly because I believe you are the biggest enthusiast of black and white films here.
But of course they're playing with fire, as they've done from the beginning. I don't see too much outrage in Russian TG channels though. Perhaps the idea that Russia if effectively fighting NATO sank in a long time ago and everybody's now concentrated on the actual Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Southeast, which could well be as successful as the one last year.
Only one thing is for certain: if some Russian politician utters some threat against Poland for this provocation many people in Eastern Europe will interpret it as further proof of Russia's imperialist threat and Western MSM will also report it as such, not having informed of the earlier Polish militants' incursion.Replies: @QCIC, @German_reader
The big question for me is if these people are really just “volunteers” (presumably fringe right-wingers) or if there’s support for them from the Polish military, intelligence services etc.
If it’s the former, it may not matter that much. If it’s the latter, well, that should change a lot of things (but of course it wouldn’t).
Anyway, I probably should stop commenting on this war. Read a prediction in a piece by Samuel Charap (in Foreign affairs, in case anyone is interested) that the war might last a decade, unless there’s a determined effort for bringing about a ceasefire (which seems pretty unlikely). Haha, just great. Though I’m beginning to no longer care. Given the trajectory of Western societies, it might just as well end in nuclear annihilation from my pov.
To elaborate on what I am talking about here, please see these two article, for instance:
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/29/951206414/statue-of-lincoln-with-freed-slave-at-his-feet-is-removed-in-boston
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/10/12/portland-protesters-tear-down-roosevelt-lincoln-statues-during-day-of-rage/
And frankly, I think that trying to erase Ukrainians' national identity and turn them into Russians is more destructive than tearing down some statues, however historically important they are.
Was definitely a problem in the 1970s and 80s.
Seems like for a long period it was the Catholic way to let gays quietly serve as priests and nuns.
Have 5 kids and if one comes out gay then send him to the priesthood.Replies: @Wokechoke
Typically the clergy was filled with Aristocrat’s third child. One son gets the estate, the next has to go and fight abroad. The third one joins the church.
There is a difference between the people and the leadership.
Persians, as a people, deserve better leadership. The religious zealots destroying Iran are abysmally stupid. The Iranian detonation of the Port of Beirut (through moronic negligence) has put Lebanon on a trajectory towards a failed state.
Maronite Christians would prosper if a partition gave them their own nation. Alas, they are held back by lesser groups.
PEACE 😇
Dude, that was back when I was super far right. Me and my internet Israeli friends at the time were cheering Hezbollah on for putting the “Yishmael Defense Forces” back in its place. We were saying, “Nasrallah avenges Gush Katif” and we really loved seeing Haifa get blasted.
Of course, now I am more measured in my view of things.
I don’t like Lebanese because they are dirty and stupid but I will admit that the way they saved the settlements in Judea and Samaria in 2006 was praiseworthy.
1. Sure they are: just ask them.
2. Iranians. There is no such thing as Persians.
That’s not the issue. The issue is that they acted like it was some great achievement to defeat an army that hadn’t won a war in nearly 40 years and had already been thoroughly defeated by rock armed Palestinian teenagers. It would be like me bragging about winning a street fight against a wheelchair bound midget.
For my own sake, I try not to hate anyone (except for white liberals, but that doesn't count as white liberals are subhumans who should all be dead), however, I really dislike Iranians and Lebanese. And in both cases it isn't just the antisemitism. Antisemitism by itself usually doesn't bother me. What bothers me about Iranians and Lebanese is the combination of antisemitism with unreal levels of arrogance and a totally unjustified sense of superiority.
The Iranians and Lebanese are both extremely primitive and stupid peoples. Their countries are absolute garbage and always have been. When Solemaini was assassinated, the Iranian response was to shoot down one of their own airliners, killing 300 of their own people. Then they trampled 80 people to death at Solemaini's funeral. This is primitive behavior that you only see in third world countries and you saw it because the Iranians are a third world people.
We know form Nazi communications that the Iranians were the non German nation that was most sympathetic to Nazism. The Iranians responded far more favorably to Nazism than even the Arabs did, which is saying a lot because the Arabs themselves were huge fans of Nazism.
You can tell a lot about a people by who hates them and who admires them. I have never seen an antisemite who didn't absolutely love Iranians, to the point of regarding them as some sort of master race. And it's simply not true. Iranians are morons and just because they have managed to make better drones than Turkey and keep their fleet of F-17s flying through a mixture of cannibalization of existing stocks, smuggling and knock off parts from Russia and China (as Iranians themselves are too stupid to make replacement parts for a 1960s aircraft) doesn't change that. Also, they got absolutely waxed by Saddam in their war and the cowardly Iranians were expecting the international community to bail them out. Once they saw that wouldn't happen they folded like the impotent cowards they always have been.
I don't even like Iranian Jews, if I'm being honest. They have debased Iranian blood.
Despite all this, I still support Iran against the United States. I simply cannot make myself support the US. Death to America.
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Re MarbledSteaks comment about Amalek: Amalek is a spiritual lineage, not a physical one. Hasidic tradition held long before Hitler was even in politics that an Amalekite would eventually rule Germany. Any Kabbalist will tell you that those hung at Nuremberg were Haman's reincarnated sons (Goering was the reincarnation of Haman's daughter). This is hardly new stuff.Replies: @Yahya, @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @Ivashka the fool
Greasy, you’re out of your mind. You’re being as much an Ugly Jew as Ivashka is being an Ugly Russian.
Yahya is right that the Persians and Lebanese are some of the most cultured and refined people in the Middle East and their cultures are some of the most interesting. They have shitty rulers, although they cannot be absolved of all blame – none of us can for the shitty state of our society.
2. How is Ivashka an "Ugly Russian"? He has shown some sympathy with Ukrainians
3. Lebanese are descended from the Canaanites. Hell, they are even proud of it
4. Iranians essentially invented antisemitism
5. Iranians. There is no such thing as Persians
6. As I'm sure you well know, our prophets tell us that the coalition that will attack us in our final war will include Iran
stop simping for NazisReplies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
That megadam in Ethiopia is supposed to generate 5,000MW.
Japan’s biggest nuclear power plant generates 7,965MW.
Well you know me, I have this crazy idea that Jesus actually meant what he said, and that religion really does mean to live lives that go against the ways of this world, but that’s just me and my crazy ways.
The more I read about Carl Schmitt the more he seems like an awful person.
Yahya is right that the Persians and Lebanese are some of the most cultured and refined people in the Middle East and their cultures are some of the most interesting. They have shitty rulers, although they cannot be absolved of all blame - none of us can for the shitty state of our society.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry
1. You are stanning for literal Nazis
2. How is Ivashka an “Ugly Russian”? He has shown some sympathy with Ukrainians
3. Lebanese are descended from the Canaanites. Hell, they are even proud of it
4. Iranians essentially invented antisemitism
5. Iranians. There is no such thing as Persians
6. As I’m sure you well know, our prophets tell us that the coalition that will attack us in our final war will include Iran
stop simping for Nazis
And I could care less that Lebanese are descended from Caananites lol. You're sounding like Ivashka here. Are you aware that "our" Prophets, who I admire very much, said that ultimately all the nations of the world will be blessed through Jews and will rejoice in God together, without conflict or division?
I don't see much of they spirit in you.
As for Nazis, I condemn them where I see them. Those Iranian and Lebanese factions that have similar attitudes, sure, but that's not the whole societies.Replies: @Greasy William
Since true scum of the earth Naftali Bennet got elected to state leadership a few years ago it was just too much and I gave up on Israeli society generally, I couldn't even read about it anymore. Settlers are the future there.Under ordinary circumstances, regular Israelis would rather have nothing to do with the occupied territories, stay behind their 'Security Wall' and leave it at that, its the settlers and their incessant chimpouts and provocations that make it an unending domestic and international headache.But I will leave this topic to Dmitry, I'm uncertain you're worth arguing with on this.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry
Greasy comments about Israel are generally everything incorrect. I guess he knows more about Russia and Prigozhin than Israel, which is to say a person who enjoys writing opposites of the available information.
He probably combines his imagination, with people he talks with in the YouTube comments. So, if I said something about Russia, he will be writing “Russians are anti-racist anti-war liberals because my Russian friend in the YouTube comments section is writing like that” etc.
But there is something about Bennett, who was a liberal at least in terms of the social policies.
Bennett was maybe the similar political views as Joe Biden. He marketed for many years as religious rightwing, probably because he was working inside the religious nationalist party, as part of the tribal politics.
He was supposed to be first religious Prime Minister in Israel, breaking the glass ceiling, while all the previous Prime Minister were secular Ashkenazim.
Then he created coalition with the Islamic party, prioritized the progressive agenda of LGBT, disabled peoples’ rights, secular marriage, minorities, environmentalism. He cancelled the oil pipeline to UAE for environmental reasons. He increases funding for LGBT organizations, increases funding for Arab students etc.
I.e. he followed a liberal policy.
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By the way, he always wears the small hat and promotes as a religious nationalist, but his family shows different reality.
Religious national Jews are supposed to marry virgin women from their own community, who wear head covers and, especially the women in their community are not allowed to wear trousers.
But Bennett’s wife is doesn’t cover hair and Bennett doesn’t stop her wearing trousers for interviews, where she is saying she is not secular, just “ex-secular”.
I watched an interview of her, with aggressive interviewer saying about stories she is a really secular liar, and she is saying “I’m not secular”.
In 3:01 in the video , the interviewer says she was the chef for a pork and shrimp restaurant in New York. She is not disageeing, just saying she made desserts and was going home on Friday. The interviewer is really not believing her.
For “right-wing religious politician” Naftali Bennett, who has a wife with trousers, who was chef in a pork and shrimp restaurant.
It’s like if Bill and Hillary Clinton were electing from a religious rightwing part of the Republican Party. Then after winning election, they go to the liberal policies they really like.
____Hopefully Netanyahu will push through the minimum necessary judicial reforms and begin whittling away at the imperial judiciary. Right now, the demonstrations are based in fear. Once in place and functioning, many will realize the panic is over hyped. The proposal is actually quite reasonable given how badly out of whack the temporary high court has become.Israel should finish their Constitution, but that is just too much to ask.PEACE 😇
I’ve noticed this ambiguous terminology elsewhere. These guys have only been operating on the border, just inside the Belgorod oblast. They have never made it anywhere near Belgorod – the more significant town miles from the border.
What difference does it make? They’re doing small scale raids. They don’t need to be in downtown Belgorod.
It’s not like that at all. Israel is a complex society that is made up of Arabs, working class Mizrahim, a secular middle/upper class, National Religious Jews and haredim. And I know a hell of a lot more about the haredim than you do. And no, the haredi do not serve in combat units and you citing Nahal Haredi is total ignorance. The unit is notorious for being made up overwhelmingly of Hardalim and OTD haredim who already have one foot out of the community. The idea that any real haredim are ever going to serve in IDF combat units is so absurd that I can’t believe you’d even suggest it.
I admit you know a lot more about the rootless, secular Israeli middle class than I do. You know lot’s of people who vote for Lapid. I don’t know any such people, nor do I want to. However, if you really knew as much about Israeli society as you like to say, you would know that Israeli society is extremely sectoral and the different sectors really don’t interact that much. Your typical National Religious person lives in a National Religious neighborhood and overwhelmingly only has National Religious friends. The Arabs and the haredim are nearly 100% insular. You know one sector of Israel very well and you think it makes you an expert on every other demographic in the country.
The amusing thing is that the Jew haters at Unz are lousy at identifying Jews. I could talk about cooking pulled pork or being raised in the church and the Jew haters will tell themselves that it's all some elaborate ruse. He must have read about youth group on the internet!!! Anecdotes from a Lutheran church must be part of his ploy!! Nice try Jew!!!
To bring out actual Jews all you have to do is discuss the internal politics of Israel.
It seems to be the issue they can never agree on.Replies: @Greasy William, @A123
With the Russian kill ratio of > 5:1 and material exchange ratios probably worse, Ukraine has no sensible war objective. Any fighting they do costs more than it gains. The aim of the West seems to be to use up Ukraine and hopefully make Russia vulnerable in the process. The rabid NeoNazi thugs kill any Ukrainians with the common sense and balls to point this out.
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I think some of these recent attacks look like Russian false flags. The goal may be to create popular support and justification for moving on Kharkov.
My wild speculation:
The Russians will beef up border security from Belarus to Luhansk over the next several weeks. They will put out warnings that Kharkiv is at risk, so any helpless or retarded civilians still there will leave as best they can. Russia might open some sort of additional corridors for civilian refugees from the city to pass into Russia. While this is occurring the Russian missile attacks across the rest of the country will continue, possibly with more emphasis on rail infrastructure to the West.
Next they will destroy any serious air defense capabilities remaining within 50 miles of the city, even out to Poltava. This will be completed using coordinated attacks with missiles and aircraft. Once the main SAMS are destroyed they will bomb all militarily relevant targets in and around the city. I think this campaign will use Su-34 and Tu-22M aircraft. Fuel bunkers, ammo dumps, airport runways and rail yards will be destroyed first. Next will be substations and communications infrastructure. This stage may proceed gradually as they monitor what the Ukrainians are doing in other areas of the conflict.
The actual capture of the city of Kharkov is difficult for me to visualize. Wiki lists the metro population as ~ 1.7 million. Does anyone know how many people are still there? Whatever the number, the Ukrainian forces will use their own civilians as human shields making things as difficult as possible for the Russian troops. The way it plays out may depend on the number of AFU troops+NeoNazis+Ukr partisans versus the number of helpless civilians+non-combatants actually in the Kharkov metropolitan area. If the percentage of active fighters is high they may just lay siege. If there is a high proportion of civilians they may go in house to house. This depends on the the numbers on both sides including how many troops is Russia willing to commit to capture the city outright.
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If the Ukrainian leadership were smart they would surrender tomorrow. All of the surviving troops could potentially be organized into a fifth column and become a pain for Russia after the SMO ends. Eventually they will figure this out, but the cocky Ukrainians will demand unacceptable preconditions and concessions which will give Russia time to keep hammering away.
Yahya is right that the Persians and Lebanese are some of the most cultured and refined people in the Middle East and their cultures are some of the most interesting. They have shitty rulers, although they cannot be absolved of all blame - none of us can for the shitty state of our society.Replies: @Greasy William, @Dmitry
Culturally you are not so far from Ivaskha. You are representative of a late 20th century capitalist bohemian culture of New York. Bashibuzuk is representative of late Soviet bohemian culture of Moscow.
I would agree Bashibuzuk has more snobby ego boosting against provincial people and “racially impure”, you don’t have so much snobby views to them. Maybe individual differences, because I’m not sure Brooklyn Jewish culture are more inclusive than late Soviet Moscow slavophiles. But bohemians of late Cold War New York and Moscow, are both in the Rousseau cult. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-219/#comment-5992399
You like trail running in the forest? What kind of nikes do you use?
I admit you know a lot more about the rootless, secular Israeli middle class than I do. You know lot's of people who vote for Lapid. I don't know any such people, nor do I want to. However, if you really knew as much about Israeli society as you like to say, you would know that Israeli society is extremely sectoral and the different sectors really don't interact that much. Your typical National Religious person lives in a National Religious neighborhood and overwhelmingly only has National Religious friends. The Arabs and the haredim are nearly 100% insular. You know one sector of Israel very well and you think it makes you an expert on every other demographic in the country.Replies: @John Johnson
I get called a Jew here all the time for supporting Ukraine and the vaccines. Those are normal positions outside of Unz. But the Jew haters view themselves as part of one giant battle against a Jewish conspiracy and Ukraine along with the vaccines are placed in the the other side.
The amusing thing is that the Jew haters at Unz are lousy at identifying Jews. I could talk about cooking pulled pork or being raised in the church and the Jew haters will tell themselves that it’s all some elaborate ruse. He must have read about youth group on the internet!!! Anecdotes from a Lutheran church must be part of his ploy!! Nice try Jew!!!
To bring out actual Jews all you have to do is discuss the internal politics of Israel.
It seems to be the issue they can never agree on.
I don't see what the vaccines have to do with Jews one way or the other.Replies: @John Johnson, @silviosilver
PEACE 😇
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The more I read about Carl Schmitt the more he seems like an awful person.Replies: @Coconuts
The book where Schmitt sets out the friend/enemy distinction is the ‘Concept of the Political’, he is trying to define the political and what sets it apart from other spheres of activity, theology, academia, economics etc. This was originally in the context of legal philosophy.
He says in that text that it is possible that liberals may one day succeed in eliminating the political from social life as they aim to, but it is uncertain.
‘The Concept of the Political’ is imo a subversive book, memorably it identifies the ways in which liberal humanitarianism can translate into the application of an extreme version of the friend/enemy distinction, where the humanitarian side ends up seeking to completely crush and dehumanise those they identify as opponents. The attempt to eliminate the friend/enemy distinction ultimately making it more salient.
He was also a dark character, links to the Nazi leadership make him controversial.
I think moral education and spiritual evolution is the correct approach. Jesus warned long ago not to fight evil - because you become evil. Schmitt is identifying a danger of moralism that spiritual writers have been writing about for a long time.
(I'm not of course saying that all versions of the Right are evil)Replies: @Coconuts
The amusing thing is that the Jew haters at Unz are lousy at identifying Jews. I could talk about cooking pulled pork or being raised in the church and the Jew haters will tell themselves that it's all some elaborate ruse. He must have read about youth group on the internet!!! Anecdotes from a Lutheran church must be part of his ploy!! Nice try Jew!!!
To bring out actual Jews all you have to do is discuss the internal politics of Israel.
It seems to be the issue they can never agree on.Replies: @Greasy William, @A123
Dmitry isn’t a Jew, he just has a bizarre love affair with secular Israelis. And, I’m not gonna lie, I kinda have suspicions myself that you may be Jewish. Because for an anti liberal American to be so hostile to Russia/Putin is strange.
I don’t see what the vaccines have to do with Jews one way or the other.
Business rights - None, government can take your business at any time. Putin can have an executive executed and no investigation will occur. This has happened dozens of times. An oligarch steps out of line and falls down some stairs.
Individual rights - None, can be sentenced to a labor colony for merely criticizing the government.
Right to free association - Does not exist. Charges can be created for associating with political undesirables.
Legal rights - None, Putin's government can override any specified legal right. Putin is not beholden to the legal system and can create laws and start wars without permission from the Duma.
Gun rights - None, limited gun availability for hunting and the privilege can be arbitrarily revoked at any time.
Political opposition to Putin - De facto banned through FSB executions of political leaders.
Private media - De facto banned.
Internet censorship - Fully supported What is strange is that so many on "alt-right" have rallied around a dictator dwarf and his totalitarian government just because he opposes ruling Western powers. It shows that many here have zero principles and only pretend to value free speech or other individual rights. Not a single dwarf defender has explained how having Slavs kill each other in trenches will undermine the Western status quo. This war has in fact reinvigorated NATO and US defense spending. French opposition to Ukraine joining NATO is over and previously neutral Finland has joined. Way to go dwarf.Replies: @Greasy William
If it's the former, it may not matter that much. If it's the latter, well, that should change a lot of things (but of course it wouldn't).
Anyway, I probably should stop commenting on this war. Read a prediction in a piece by Samuel Charap (in Foreign affairs, in case anyone is interested) that the war might last a decade, unless there's a determined effort for bringing about a ceasefire (which seems pretty unlikely). Haha, just great. Though I'm beginning to no longer care. Given the trajectory of Western societies, it might just as well end in nuclear annihilation from my pov.Replies: @Mr. XYZ
Off-topic, but what do you think about this Twitter quote by Anatoly Crimeus Karlin?
I think that he’s underestimating the scale of the problem here (though many Western rightists are, regretfully, nevertheless pro-Russian). To elaborate on this, I don’t think that Western rightists can, with a straight face, say that Woke statue demolitions (Woke cultural destruction) is unacceptable while at the same time saying that Russian cultural genocide against Ukrainians is acceptable. That would just make them blatant hypocrites.
To elaborate on what I am talking about here, please see these two article, for instance:
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/29/951206414/statue-of-lincoln-with-freed-slave-at-his-feet-is-removed-in-boston
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/10/12/portland-protesters-tear-down-roosevelt-lincoln-statues-during-day-of-rage/
And frankly, I think that trying to erase Ukrainians’ national identity and turn them into Russians is more destructive than tearing down some statues, however historically important they are.
By the way, how do you explain with the hypothesis “Egypt needs genetic engineering”, “Bedouins are stupid” etc. Arab Israelis have higher or lower test scores than Israeli Jews, depending on religion.
When the Muslim girls, go to the Christian schools.
https://www.scipress.com/ILSHS.32.175.pdf
If from the Northern area of Israel, where the Bedouin lose the romantic traditional life, there are women with Phds. https://twitter.com/haneenshib
Am I the only one who sees that this new incarnation of Ivashka is basically a hardcore anti-Semite, racialist, and proto-fascist? Very sinister stuff coming from him the past few months, even though he tries to mix it with nice fake Buddhist stuff and pretend he’s really a down to earth nice guy. Lately his comments read like they can come from any other part of the Unz review, which this part of the website always avoided for so long. He’d probably feel right at home on a Freud-Jung thread.
I’m too much of a cultural mongrel, crossed too many cultural borders, to represent anything, really – I spent too many decades travelling all over Asia, too many years living in different countries, too much time alone out in nature, and read too many books from different cultures, and have had too many friends from different countries. I am a rootless cosmopolitan in the best sense and proud of it 🙂 A citizen of the world who can say after the Roman playwright Terence – “Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto”. This is the diametric opposite of what Bashi aspires to be with his national archetypes and what not.
And I am nowhere near ambitious enough or obsessed with money and success enough to represent the capitalist Brooklyn Jewish culture 🙂 That culture is also highly narcissistic, toxic, and dysfunctional for me to want to be any part of.
We are not just deterministic products of the institutions that we grow up around, and do have personal agency, Dmitry, you incorrigible determinist 🙂 Especially in this globalized age where we really can select from a wide range of cultural influences and expose ourselves to be shaped by really global influences.
What Nikes indeed – very funny, very funny, Dmitry. You are behind the times – the new hot thing in bourgeois consumption is minimalist barefoot shoes for trail running, like Xeros 🙂
Although I’ve been thinking of making my own Japanese straw sandals….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TranscendentalismBashibuzuk's posts are usually the late Soviet Moscow interpretation of similar romantic ideas with influence of Rousseau. There is similar derivation, which is - e.g. going trail running in North America forests. - Conspiracy theory about Jews was one of the most popular things in the 1980s/1990s culture in Moscow, partly it was engineered by the security services, but it's also related to re-viewing of the Soviet history, Bolshevik revolution, local inter-ethnic problems of this region etc. I agree, there is less balance of those views, without AltanBakshi. In the previous years, it was dialectic of AltanBakshi/Ano4. Some of the users, need both sides to balance each view, create the new comments. Btw, unfortunately AP perhaps could stop posting so much here, if Beckow and AnonfromTN will really exit because Ukraine goes to a counter-offensive.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @AP
Speaking of which, the other day I asked my wife, whose main hobby is shopping around, to buy me a new cap for running. After the ridiculous Dylan Mulvanney Nike ad, which was outright mockery of real women, I didn't feel like advertising that brand on my head when running so she bought me a new Adidas cap. Just a couple of weeks later I learned that Adidas had also released its own infamous "tuck-friendly" woman swimsuit for pervy exhibitionists. There's no escaping from the woke madness really. It should be tremendously easy for some GOP-affiliated group to maintain a list of woke promoting companies so that the half or two thirds of the population who don't align with those values can stop the madness with our pockets but they're just too distracted with their own anti-vax or 2nd ammendment obsessions to waste their time in the culture wars that they're losing so badly.
Btw, nothing wrong with being gay, as far as I'm concerned, if that's the way you were born and you keep your sexuality in the private sphere, like the rest of us, but now that we all know thar Mr XYZ feels attracted to "tucked" crossdressers I wonder if he even realizes how much his confession must have put off some of his regular interlocutors.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @Sher Singh
The coalition never made sense. It was every MK that opposed Netanyahu crammed together. There never was a coherent ‘policy’ concept. It only existed to string things along until a sham guilty verdict snared Bibi. However, the case is so riddled with flaws that even the corrupt judiciary could not find a conviction.
I am not sure how much responsibility Bennett should personally bear. Anyone taking the top job with that coalition would be compromised and undermined before Day 1.
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Hopefully Netanyahu will push through the minimum necessary judicial reforms and begin whittling away at the imperial judiciary. Right now, the demonstrations are based in fear. Once in place and functioning, many will realize the panic is over hyped. The proposal is actually quite reasonable given how badly out of whack the temporary high court has become.
Israel should finish their Constitution, but that is just too much to ask.
PEACE 😇
The amusing thing is that the Jew haters at Unz are lousy at identifying Jews. I could talk about cooking pulled pork or being raised in the church and the Jew haters will tell themselves that it's all some elaborate ruse. He must have read about youth group on the internet!!! Anecdotes from a Lutheran church must be part of his ploy!! Nice try Jew!!!
To bring out actual Jews all you have to do is discuss the internal politics of Israel.
It seems to be the issue they can never agree on.Replies: @Greasy William, @A123
I commiserate. Despite my obvious Christianity I am frequently called Jewish.
PEACE 😇
My own views probably overlap more with liberalism than the right, but I’m opposed to the liberal attempt to force their views down others throats and punish dissenters, up to a point.
I think moral education and spiritual evolution is the correct approach. Jesus warned long ago not to fight evil – because you become evil. Schmitt is identifying a danger of moralism that spiritual writers have been writing about for a long time.
(I’m not of course saying that all versions of the Right are evil)
Dmitry, Dmitry…
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12160475/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929708002061
“Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.” – Matthew 7:7
2. How is Ivashka an "Ugly Russian"? He has shown some sympathy with Ukrainians
3. Lebanese are descended from the Canaanites. Hell, they are even proud of it
4. Iranians essentially invented antisemitism
5. Iranians. There is no such thing as Persians
6. As I'm sure you well know, our prophets tell us that the coalition that will attack us in our final war will include Iran
stop simping for NazisReplies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
I may have been born into the Jewish community, but I’m not a Jew anymore Greasy – except of course to anti-Semites.
And I could care less that Lebanese are descended from Caananites lol. You’re sounding like Ivashka here. Are you aware that “our” Prophets, who I admire very much, said that ultimately all the nations of the world will be blessed through Jews and will rejoice in God together, without conflict or division?
I don’t see much of they spirit in you.
As for Nazis, I condemn them where I see them. Those Iranian and Lebanese factions that have similar attitudes, sure, but that’s not the whole societies.
I once met a gay and very horny Spanish friar, some direct knowledge that an old Reformation stereotype is not completely wrong.
Monks vary though, I didn’t meet any obviously gay ones. There were various monks who had already had girlfriends, careers etc. before coming to the monastery. I think you are called to this sort of life.
I remember doing a vocations course with a young woman who was thinking about becoming a nun, she was nice looking and built like Christina Hendriks from Mad Men, that was distracting.
Most nuns I saw weren’t like that.
Meatball Ron's future is in some think tank making an obscene amount of money for the way he took one for the team by launching this suicide run for the PresidencyReplies: @A123, @Mr. XYZ, @Joe Paluka
Maybe so, but Tel Aviv is considered to be one of the most gay friendly cities in the world.
https://theculturetrip.com/middle-east/israel/articles/why-tel-aviv-is-one-of-the-most-lgbt-friendly-cities-in-the-world/
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/
Commenting here is worthless and non-adaptive, like displacement behavior in animals when they are hopelessly confused and/or frightened out of their wits.
If I manage to transfer some money to Russia despite current roadblocks, I would be able to do something real, like helping civilian victims of Ukie aggression.
All the best to you!Replies: @QCIC, @orchardist
I’ve appreciated your knowledge of things of import.
Best
And I could care less that Lebanese are descended from Caananites lol. You're sounding like Ivashka here. Are you aware that "our" Prophets, who I admire very much, said that ultimately all the nations of the world will be blessed through Jews and will rejoice in God together, without conflict or division?
I don't see much of they spirit in you.
As for Nazis, I condemn them where I see them. Those Iranian and Lebanese factions that have similar attitudes, sure, but that's not the whole societies.Replies: @Greasy William
Lol, this isn’t something you can resign from
Yup. Ultimately. Every human being is made in the divine image but right now we are at war. Of course, it’s better to never have ill will towards anyone but for most people that isn’t realistic. Especially after something like what white liberals did during Covid. So you just manage it the best you can.
The Lebanese suck but you could make a case for them not being Nazis. The Iranians, otoh, they are Nazis and you just sound silly trying to deny it. The Swastika is an Iranian symbol.
Swastika is an ancient symbol of eternal change and evolution that has been found all around the world, it has been used extensively in south eastern Europe by the Tripolye-Cucuteni culture, but has gained its highest appraisal in the Aryan (Indo-Iranian) culture.
These Aryans have nothing whatsoever to do with the Nazis. From their culture, which has been somewhat influenced by the Tripolye-Cucuteni during the formative phase, the Aryans have taken the Swastika with them as a symbol of good luck and right change.
Although it was also found on Mohendjo Daro and Harappan seals, it is under the Vedic Aryans that Swastika became one of Indian most sacred symbols. From the Indian Vedic Aryan culture, the Swastika has entered into the Jaina and Buddhadharma. Do you think Jains and Buddhists are also Iranian?
Jaina symbol:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Jain_Prateek_Chihna.svg/800px-Jain_Prateek_Chihna.svg.png
Buddhist (Indo-Scythian) statue carrying a Swastika:
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5baeb1db2100002501c6ef69.jpeg?
Contemporary Oriental Buddha's statue with a Swastika:
https://cdn.jwa.org/sites/default/files/styles/scale_width_300px/public/mediaobjects/swastika_buddha_copy.jpgB3The Balto-Slav used Swastika since times immemorial:
https://m.traditio.wiki/files/4/44/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0.jpg
Until Hitler and his henchmen stole this symbol from all the people of good faith and made it into a symbol of hate. Then the Jewish-Bolshevik NKVD officers and their dumb Sovok followers started putting the Russian peasants in jail because they made Swastika embroideries.
And, no Persians have never used Swastika as symbol of their Empire. Although they were also Aryan. The symbol of their Empire was the Faravahar:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Faravahar-Gold.svg/1280px-Faravahar-Gold.svg.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faravahar
It represents Ahura Mazda:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda
Man, you really need to read some books.
🙂Replies: @AP
Your views are more New York, American transcendentalist interpretation kinds of Rousseau romantic ideas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentalism
Bashibuzuk’s posts are usually the late Soviet Moscow interpretation of similar romantic ideas with influence of Rousseau.
There is similar derivation, which is – e.g. going trail running in North America forests.
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Conspiracy theory about Jews was one of the most popular things in the 1980s/1990s culture in Moscow, partly it was engineered by the security services, but it’s also related to re-viewing of the Soviet history, Bolshevik revolution, local inter-ethnic problems of this region etc.
I agree, there is less balance of those views, without AltanBakshi. In the previous years, it was dialectic of AltanBakshi/Ano4. Some of the users, need both sides to balance each view, create the new comments.
Btw, unfortunately AP perhaps could stop posting so much here, if Beckow and AnonfromTN will really exit because Ukraine goes to a counter-offensive.
Yes.
For my own sake, I try not to hate anyone (except for white liberals, but that doesn't count as white liberals are subhumans who should all be dead), however, I really dislike Iranians and Lebanese. And in both cases it isn't just the antisemitism. Antisemitism by itself usually doesn't bother me. What bothers me about Iranians and Lebanese is the combination of antisemitism with unreal levels of arrogance and a totally unjustified sense of superiority.
The Iranians and Lebanese are both extremely primitive and stupid peoples. Their countries are absolute garbage and always have been. When Solemaini was assassinated, the Iranian response was to shoot down one of their own airliners, killing 300 of their own people. Then they trampled 80 people to death at Solemaini's funeral. This is primitive behavior that you only see in third world countries and you saw it because the Iranians are a third world people.
We know form Nazi communications that the Iranians were the non German nation that was most sympathetic to Nazism. The Iranians responded far more favorably to Nazism than even the Arabs did, which is saying a lot because the Arabs themselves were huge fans of Nazism.
You can tell a lot about a people by who hates them and who admires them. I have never seen an antisemite who didn't absolutely love Iranians, to the point of regarding them as some sort of master race. And it's simply not true. Iranians are morons and just because they have managed to make better drones than Turkey and keep their fleet of F-17s flying through a mixture of cannibalization of existing stocks, smuggling and knock off parts from Russia and China (as Iranians themselves are too stupid to make replacement parts for a 1960s aircraft) doesn't change that. Also, they got absolutely waxed by Saddam in their war and the cowardly Iranians were expecting the international community to bail them out. Once they saw that wouldn't happen they folded like the impotent cowards they always have been.
I don't even like Iranian Jews, if I'm being honest. They have debased Iranian blood.
Despite all this, I still support Iran against the United States. I simply cannot make myself support the US. Death to America.
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Re MarbledSteaks comment about Amalek: Amalek is a spiritual lineage, not a physical one. Hasidic tradition held long before Hitler was even in politics that an Amalekite would eventually rule Germany. Any Kabbalist will tell you that those hung at Nuremberg were Haman's reincarnated sons (Goering was the reincarnation of Haman's daughter). This is hardly new stuff.Replies: @Yahya, @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @Ivashka the fool
You have just confirmed that you truly are a ty American, your knowledge of history is abysmal and you are prone to infantile oversimplification.
So before we continue this dialog, I am inclined to ask whether you are somewhat interested in historical truths or if the Judeo-Biblical BS is sufficient for your level of intelligence?
I am asking because it would take me some time to explain everything you got wrong with this idiotic comment of yours.
I have grown lazy lately and I am not inclined anymore in writing lengthy replies.
I would spare myself the effort if you keep being as closed-minded as you were while writing all this garbage above.
🙂
And yeah, before you answer, do you know why the Babylonian Talmud is named the way it is, and who ruled the land where the two academies in which it was written down were located?
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I think moral education and spiritual evolution is the correct approach. Jesus warned long ago not to fight evil - because you become evil. Schmitt is identifying a danger of moralism that spiritual writers have been writing about for a long time.
(I'm not of course saying that all versions of the Right are evil)Replies: @Coconuts
There is a certain way of doing it, say if you think someone is being moralistic and then decide that you will try and have a discussion and perhaps talk them out of it. And if your intentions are basically benevolent or at least neutral.
According to Schmitt it becomes political when you identify someone who holds views you disagree with as a member of an opposing group, someone who needs to be dominated or neutralised. I think you can see this oppositional character in evidently political discussions, not always but frequently it is present. One of the impacts of Woke has been to spread this oppositional stance to many areas of life in which it wasn’t present, or that’s how I’ve experienced it.
Before, even in discussions between political figures the first discussion orientated attitude seemed common, which would be typical of a time when liberal and consensus seeking attitudes were being prioritised socially.
I think it’s true about Jesus, he is never portrayed as making political arguments in the Schmitt sense.
The only true alternative to politics is religion - authentic religion. Even what we call the Left is ultimately a version of Right wing power seeking. Yep, it's true. And the Buddha, Lao Tzu, too. It's because the only way out of power politics is authentic religion.Replies: @Coconuts
Yes.
This isn’t unique to liberals – all factions try and do this, when they’re in power, and dream about doing it when they’re not. When the Right was dominant it did ths, and dreams about doing it now.
The only true alternative to politics is religion – authentic religion. Even what we call the Left is ultimately a version of Right wing power seeking.
Yep, it’s true. And the Buddha, Lao Tzu, too. It’s because the only way out of power politics is authentic religion.
So before we continue this dialog, I am inclined to ask whether you are somewhat interested in historical truths or if the Judeo-Biblical BS is sufficient for your level of intelligence?
I am asking because it would take me some time to explain everything you got wrong with this idiotic comment of yours.
I have grown lazy lately and I am not inclined anymore in writing lengthy replies.
I would spare myself the effort if you keep being as closed-minded as you were while writing all this garbage above.
🙂
And yeah, before you answer, do you know why the Babylonian Talmud is named the way it is, and who ruled the land where the two academies in which it was written down were located?Replies: @Dmitry
By the way, if we want to ask about an interesting theme of the postwar Soviet history which seemed removed by the security services in recent postsoviet years, especially in the last 10 years in Russia they remove it from the media.
I loved the part where they write "Only a scientific analysis . . .".
Why is this in English? Is the marxist . org page accurate?
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/soviet-life/index.htmReplies: @Dmitry
I personally saw something remarkable when I was 14 - years old, in 1987. We were driving in a car with my mom and my younger brother. It was in the morning, probably around 7h00 am, I saw a bright light moving towards the horizon on the left side of the car. Suddenly, the light changed direction at an improbable angle and went at a tremendous speed flying over our car. My mom and brother saw it too. People around us were braking their cars and some tried parking. When it was passing, I had the time to see that inside the burning bright light, there was a visible shape that I recall being somewhat pyramidal or triangular. But I didn't have the time to look at it in more detail, it took only around 30 seconds ro reach us from the horizon and it was gone. Nothing was published in the newspapers about it in the next days despite at least a half dozen cars being around us when that happened.
Basically, I think that UFOs are real, but I have no idea what they are and what they are maid of. Plasma perhaps?
BTW, last year in the autumn the Ukrainian astronomers have written about the detection of numerous plasmoid UFOs in the Kiev's sky.
https://www.livescience.com/ukraine-ufo-uap-report
https://nypost.com/2022/09/14/ukrainian-astronomers-claim-ufos-everywhere-over-kyiv/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.11215Replies: @S
Greasy, how can you be so dumb ?
Swastika is an ancient symbol of eternal change and evolution that has been found all around the world, it has been used extensively in south eastern Europe by the Tripolye-Cucuteni culture, but has gained its highest appraisal in the Aryan (Indo-Iranian) culture.
These Aryans have nothing whatsoever to do with the Nazis. From their culture, which has been somewhat influenced by the Tripolye-Cucuteni during the formative phase, the Aryans have taken the Swastika with them as a symbol of good luck and right change.
Although it was also found on Mohendjo Daro and Harappan seals, it is under the Vedic Aryans that Swastika became one of Indian most sacred symbols. From the Indian Vedic Aryan culture, the Swastika has entered into the Jaina and Buddhadharma. Do you think Jains and Buddhists are also Iranian?
Jaina symbol:
Buddhist (Indo-Scythian) statue carrying a Swastika:
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5baeb1db2100002501c6ef69.jpeg?
Contemporary Oriental Buddha’s statue with a Swastika:
https://cdn.jwa.org/sites/default/files/styles/scale_width_300px/public/mediaobjects/swastika_buddha_copy.jpgB3The Balto-Slav used Swastika since times immemorial:
Until Hitler and his henchmen stole this symbol from all the people of good faith and made it into a symbol of hate. Then the Jewish-Bolshevik NKVD officers and their dumb Sovok followers started putting the Russian peasants in jail because they made Swastika embroideries.
And, no Persians have never used Swastika as symbol of their Empire. Although they were also Aryan. The symbol of their Empire was the Faravahar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faravahar
It represents Ahura Mazda:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda
Man, you really need to read some books.
🙂
https://www.paylessflights.com/images/galleries/225243ccbe7165ac4269518efbf23601.jpegReplies: @Ivashka the fool
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TranscendentalismBashibuzuk's posts are usually the late Soviet Moscow interpretation of similar romantic ideas with influence of Rousseau. There is similar derivation, which is - e.g. going trail running in North America forests. - Conspiracy theory about Jews was one of the most popular things in the 1980s/1990s culture in Moscow, partly it was engineered by the security services, but it's also related to re-viewing of the Soviet history, Bolshevik revolution, local inter-ethnic problems of this region etc. I agree, there is less balance of those views, without AltanBakshi. In the previous years, it was dialectic of AltanBakshi/Ano4. Some of the users, need both sides to balance each view, create the new comments. Btw, unfortunately AP perhaps could stop posting so much here, if Beckow and AnonfromTN will really exit because Ukraine goes to a counter-offensive.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @AP
None of what you’re saying makes any sense to me – it’s just deterministic cop outs.
I grew up in a right wing nationalist family, and was right wing and nationalist most of my youth – and racist too. I developed out of that. Certainly, not entirely out of my own efforts, but also through the grace of God.
Much of my initial inspiration came from travelling in Asia, and reading about Taoism and Buddhism, not American Transcendentalism, or American left wing culture, or Rousseau.
Human beings do not come fully assembled off a factory conveyor belt.
Everyone has the opportunity to do that. Bashibuzuk is not determined by where he grew up. He can choose not to be a racialist proto-fascist – since I’ve known him on this site, he’s freely chosen to become a worse human being. One can choose to grow closer to God or more distant from him. The Buddhist stuff is incoherent and fake.
AltanBakshi, judging by his recent reappearance, has also gotten worse. Most people on this site are not the best, but some are actively becoming worse. And it’s a free choice, not determined.
The AltanBakshi/Ano4 dialectic is no longer possible – they’ve both become different and worse people, as we saw when Altan briefly returned. Bashibuzuk is not a worse human being today because Altan is no longer here to “balance” his extremism, because people are not factory produced automatons, but make free moral choices.
Your conveyor belt, factory assembly theory of human nature is just a cop out Dmitry.
That may be true, but that’s a different matter. AP will have lost his antagonists in argument, and may feel there is no one for him to fight.
2) You wouldn't recognize true Buddhadharma even it hit you between the eyes.
3) Go hiking and send us nice pictures.
🙂Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
- * I expect, Bashibuzuk will say to me, liberals are responsible for the war, even though liberals are the people who oppose the war and also, were warning us about this war years ago. People like me were thinking "the liberals are panicking in stupid way about this topic". When we discuss Noize MC (liberal rapper of Russia) in this forum. Noize MC warns us this war and the deaths, was going to be years ago. Actually we see now, Noize MC was more accurate and knowledgeable, than anyone in this forum, including of course myself.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
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Have you ever seen one?
I loved the part where they write “Only a scientific analysis . . .”.
Why is this in English? Is the marxist . org page accurate?
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/soviet-life/index.htm
"Soviet Life" was kind of propaganda magazine that was to promote the Soviet Union in the West. However, as you can see, it has many good articles. This is an article by Felix Zigal and it's written in a responsible way, without adding ideology or too many speculations.Replies: @Ivashka the fool
It is and I do 🙂 I’ve made my decision and you can’t stop me.
That’s your choice. Dont hide behind Dmitry-style determinism. Own up to your free choices.
I don't see what the vaccines have to do with Jews one way or the other.Replies: @John Johnson, @silviosilver
Dmitry isn’t a Jew, he just has a bizarre love affair with secular Israelis. And, I’m not gonna lie, I kinda have suspicions myself that you may be Jewish. Because for an anti liberal American to be so hostile to Russia/Putin is strange.
What exactly is strange about being anti-liberal and also opposing Putin?
Let’s review Putin’s positions:
Business rights – None, government can take your business at any time. Putin can have an executive executed and no investigation will occur. This has happened dozens of times. An oligarch steps out of line and falls down some stairs.
Individual rights – None, can be sentenced to a labor colony for merely criticizing the government.
Right to free association – Does not exist. Charges can be created for associating with political undesirables.
Legal rights – None, Putin’s government can override any specified legal right. Putin is not beholden to the legal system and can create laws and start wars without permission from the Duma.
Gun rights – None, limited gun availability for hunting and the privilege can be arbitrarily revoked at any time.
Political opposition to Putin – De facto banned through FSB executions of political leaders.
Private media – De facto banned.
Internet censorship – Fully supported
What is strange is that so many on “alt-right” have rallied around a dictator dwarf and his totalitarian government just because he opposes ruling Western powers. It shows that many here have zero principles and only pretend to value free speech or other individual rights. Not a single dwarf defender has explained how having Slavs kill each other in trenches will undermine the Western status quo. This war has in fact reinvigorated NATO and US defense spending. French opposition to Ukraine joining NATO is over and previously neutral Finland has joined. Way to go dwarf.
I support Putin against the US/EU, but that is literally the only thing I support him on. I oppose him on Ukraine to the point that I have broken with Trump/Carlson/Gaetz and am strong on the side of the neocons who advocate for the US providing Ukraine with 100% military and financial support (although even now I prefer that Russia retain all its pre invasion territories).
But I don't hate Putin, and how could I? Yes, he is bad but he is fighting the United States. I wish he was doing it in a less evil way but undermining the US empire is, strictly in and of itself, a good thing.Replies: @QCIC
As empty hot air here affects exactly nothing, I discontinue my participation in worthless discussions. Bye-bye.Replies: @German_reader, @Gerard1234, @sudden death, @Barbarossa
All the best to you, AnonfromTN. Best of luck in your other endeavors!
I look at the thread here as entertainment, and as with any entertainment moderation is key. I will say that I’ve learned a reasonable amount and been grateful for some great book and movie suggestions. I get your point entirely though and the same impulse keeps my footprint light.
You have always been a level headed contributor around here though and will be missed!
Perhaps, but Iran’s former vice-minister of culture, Mohammad-Ali Ramin, has what is probably a very Scythian face:

He could easily pass as a Russian and/or Greek peasant from 100+ years ago in the right outfit, I suspect.
Some other Iranians could easily pass for Mediterranean:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Feconomy%2F2021%2F5%2F14%2Fthese-iranian-woman-are-crushing-it-in-crypto&psig=AOvVaw2-yiBnAIvqyUvoeFej62uB&ust=1686100865852000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjhxqFwoTCIDH__m8rf8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Alizadeh2.jpg?resize=719%2C513&quality=80
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2019-09-15%2Ftroubled-times-for-women-in-iran%2F11499558&psig=AOvVaw2-yiBnAIvqyUvoeFej62uB&ust=1686100865852000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjhxqFwoTCIDH__m8rf8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ
https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/a236c161b5cf427a9a30639d05071cca?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=1993&cropW=2987&xPos=6&yPos=0&width=862&height=575
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TranscendentalismBashibuzuk's posts are usually the late Soviet Moscow interpretation of similar romantic ideas with influence of Rousseau. There is similar derivation, which is - e.g. going trail running in North America forests. - Conspiracy theory about Jews was one of the most popular things in the 1980s/1990s culture in Moscow, partly it was engineered by the security services, but it's also related to re-viewing of the Soviet history, Bolshevik revolution, local inter-ethnic problems of this region etc. I agree, there is less balance of those views, without AltanBakshi. In the previous years, it was dialectic of AltanBakshi/Ano4. Some of the users, need both sides to balance each view, create the new comments. Btw, unfortunately AP perhaps could stop posting so much here, if Beckow and AnonfromTN will really exit because Ukraine goes to a counter-offensive.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @AP
I think it’s very convenient that AnoninTN leaves as Ukraine starts the counter-offensive.
1) What you wrote about both me and Altan is entirely wrong
2) You wouldn’t recognize true Buddhadharma even it hit you between the eyes.
3) Go hiking and send us nice pictures.
🙂
2) You're hiding behind big words. The compassion of the Buddha is simple and incompatible with racism and fascism
3) This I will do, out of Buddhist compassion of the real kind - may something of the vastness of the wilderness touch your soul and help heal it, may the cold sharp pine-scented winds of the mountains leap through the computer screen and cleanse your soul.
🌬️
Swastika is an ancient symbol of eternal change and evolution that has been found all around the world, it has been used extensively in south eastern Europe by the Tripolye-Cucuteni culture, but has gained its highest appraisal in the Aryan (Indo-Iranian) culture.
These Aryans have nothing whatsoever to do with the Nazis. From their culture, which has been somewhat influenced by the Tripolye-Cucuteni during the formative phase, the Aryans have taken the Swastika with them as a symbol of good luck and right change.
Although it was also found on Mohendjo Daro and Harappan seals, it is under the Vedic Aryans that Swastika became one of Indian most sacred symbols. From the Indian Vedic Aryan culture, the Swastika has entered into the Jaina and Buddhadharma. Do you think Jains and Buddhists are also Iranian?
Jaina symbol:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Jain_Prateek_Chihna.svg/800px-Jain_Prateek_Chihna.svg.png
Buddhist (Indo-Scythian) statue carrying a Swastika:
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5baeb1db2100002501c6ef69.jpeg?
Contemporary Oriental Buddha's statue with a Swastika:
https://cdn.jwa.org/sites/default/files/styles/scale_width_300px/public/mediaobjects/swastika_buddha_copy.jpgB3The Balto-Slav used Swastika since times immemorial:
https://m.traditio.wiki/files/4/44/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0.jpg
Until Hitler and his henchmen stole this symbol from all the people of good faith and made it into a symbol of hate. Then the Jewish-Bolshevik NKVD officers and their dumb Sovok followers started putting the Russian peasants in jail because they made Swastika embroideries.
And, no Persians have never used Swastika as symbol of their Empire. Although they were also Aryan. The symbol of their Empire was the Faravahar:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Faravahar-Gold.svg/1280px-Faravahar-Gold.svg.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faravahar
It represents Ahura Mazda:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda
Man, you really need to read some books.
🙂Replies: @AP
There are some in the Saint Sophia in Kiev:
Yes. I met a couple of Iranians and Kurds that had a quite fair complexion. But they are a minority of the population because this phenotype is recessive. And you are right the Parasika were initially just one among the Scythian tribes.
https://theculturetrip.com/middle-east/israel/articles/why-tel-aviv-is-one-of-the-most-lgbt-friendly-cities-in-the-world/
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/Replies: @Greasy William
you are not making a very good case for the state of Israel
A good choice any time of the year. But be warned that, slot canyon danger aside, the combination of big amounts of snow left in the mountains and frequent storm clouds is giving Utah a very dramatic touch this year. It’s beautiful anywhere you go.
Looking forward.
2) You wouldn't recognize true Buddhadharma even it hit you between the eyes.
3) Go hiking and send us nice pictures.
🙂Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
1) You don’t like your reflection in a mirror – perhaps you haven’t seen it in too long
2) You’re hiding behind big words. The compassion of the Buddha is simple and incompatible with racism and fascism
3) This I will do, out of Buddhist compassion of the real kind – may something of the vastness of the wilderness touch your soul and help heal it, may the cold sharp pine-scented winds of the mountains leap through the computer screen and cleanse your soul.
🌬️
When older users in this kind of political discussion are in bad mood or high stress, they often go to more extreme or simplistic views, which are comfortable for them. Sometimes these views are from the conditioning in youth.
A few months ago, AP was in bad mood, he was writing scary comments about poor people. He seemed to have recovered, though. But for a time he was entering Social Darwinism when he was in a bad mood.
Bashibuzuk is promoting racial conspiracy theory of Galkovsky (rightwing blogger of Moscow), to innocence himself for the invasion of Ukraine, so he can say he is ideologically innocent in this war. It’s a kind of avoiding responsibility for the war, blame others. Although Putin is justifying war in the “triune nation”, slavophile ideology and even some of the worst systemic liberals were exiting the government after invasion.
Some part of Galkovsky’s views are correct, for example the nationalities of the wealthy people, but it’s also something everyone knows.
Using Galkovsky to explain the Ukraine invasion, doesn’t match what I saw, because I know rich people, from the class Galkovsky is snobby about. Rich people were most shocked by this invasion, who are organizing to help Ukrainians.* One of aspects of the golden youth created by the postsoviet mafia capitalism/mestizo project, were lot more empathy to Ukrainians and support for peace across the postsoviet countries.
Maybe Bashibuzuk doesn’t know, the rich postsoviet people are going to school across the borders and they have friends on both sides. And their views of geopolitics, are usually like hippies.
The views of the circles and culture of peoples’ youth, in some way are like the stamp of the vintage on the bottle of wine.
In 1980s/1990s, Moscow elite was breaking and enters internal conflicts. Conspiracy theories about Jews was mainstreaming part of bohemian discussion of 1980s/1990s Moscow. It’s partly engineered by the security services. Although there is also regional variation, where Moscow always has this interethnic problems, while many regions are a lot more utopian in this area.
I’m not historical expert, to say more about the discussions of the 1980s. It’s possible also internal conflict, including Jewish elites.
One possible cynical reason for engineering a lot of Jewish conspiracy views in the society, is you want to create hostile atmosphere for Jewish population. A benefit of this, is for Israel by increasing immigration.
In the 1980s/1990s, Israel was worried about its demographic situation and in the Israeli culture it became normal to talk about an Arab demographic time bomb” It’s perhaps not 100% impossible, KGB and Israel could have relationship in this topic.
We know Israel has even made the United States close the Soviet Jewish immigration, because they want to trap the population in Israel.
When Putin is president, the antisemitic theories is rapidly removed from the society. It’s because the ideologies in Russia are artificially engineered by the elite. The government can switch views on or off, very rapidly in this society.
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* I expect, Bashibuzuk will say to me, liberals are responsible for the war, even though liberals are the people who oppose the war and also, were warning us about this war years ago. People like me were thinking “the liberals are panicking in stupid way about this topic”.
When we discuss Noize MC (liberal rapper of Russia) in this forum. Noize MC warns us this war and the deaths, was going to be years ago.
Actually we see now, Noize MC was more accurate and knowledgeable, than anyone in this forum, including of course myself.
https://i.ibb.co/WvpmNZh/utahJune.jpgReplies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
You’re whetting my appetite 🙂
Looking forward.
Thank you for being consistent here.
Interestingly enough, he looks rather similar to a Russian and/or a Greek, no?
He could easily pass as a Russian and/or Greek peasant from 100+ years ago in the right outfit, I suspect.
Some other Iranians could easily pass for Mediterranean:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Feconomy%2F2021%2F5%2F14%2Fthese-iranian-woman-are-crushing-it-in-crypto&psig=AOvVaw2-yiBnAIvqyUvoeFej62uB&ust=1686100865852000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjhxqFwoTCIDH__m8rf8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Alizadeh2.jpg?resize=719%2C513&quality=80
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2019-09-15%2Ftroubled-times-for-women-in-iran%2F11499558&psig=AOvVaw2-yiBnAIvqyUvoeFej62uB&ust=1686100865852000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjhxqFwoTCIDH__m8rf8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ
https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/a236c161b5cf427a9a30639d05071cca?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=1993&cropW=2987&xPos=6&yPos=0&width=862&height=575
As Russia exits the Donbass, the Donbass exits from the Unz Review lol! 😀 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZuAf7VAeKg
https://i.imgur.com/ieKzkUy.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/l1Fvcxk.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/PkbSOvF.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/7kw55m3.pngReplies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Ivashka the fool
The talk about the UFO in USSR had culminated during the Perestroika, although it was often discussed before in a non official manner. During the final couple of years of the Soviet Union, there were so many UFO sightings that it seemed like it happened every week or at least every month in different parts of the country. Around 1992, the Russian Orthodox Church went on record officially recommending its flock not to interact with UFOs which were described as demonic and dangerous. It was due to several people falling severely ill after interacting with UFOs and supposedly Aliens.
I personally saw something remarkable when I was 14 – years old, in 1987. We were driving in a car with my mom and my younger brother. It was in the morning, probably around 7h00 am, I saw a bright light moving towards the horizon on the left side of the car. Suddenly, the light changed direction at an improbable angle and went at a tremendous speed flying over our car. My mom and brother saw it too. People around us were braking their cars and some tried parking. When it was passing, I had the time to see that inside the burning bright light, there was a visible shape that I recall being somewhat pyramidal or triangular. But I didn’t have the time to look at it in more detail, it took only around 30 seconds ro reach us from the horizon and it was gone. Nothing was published in the newspapers about it in the next days despite at least a half dozen cars being around us when that happened.
Basically, I think that UFOs are real, but I have no idea what they are and what they are maid of. Plasma perhaps?
BTW, last year in the autumn the Ukrainian astronomers have written about the detection of numerous plasmoid UFOs in the Kiev’s sky.
https://www.livescience.com/ukraine-ufo-uap-report
https://nypost.com/2022/09/14/ukrainian-astronomers-claim-ufos-everywhere-over-kyiv/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.11215
The two that got a lot of coverage in the US were the 1989 Voronezh park sightings, though the Wiki entry (not the best source, admittedly) doesn't make it out to be that impressive and kind of questionable...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronezh_UFO_incident
And the alleged 1984 Salyut 7 Cosmonaut 'winged angel' sightings, which now doesn't even rate a Wiki entry, and no mention positive or negative, at all on the Wiki Salyut 7 entry, which is not a good sign as to the veracity of the reports.
While I think there probably is extraterrestrial life, I'm less certain if they've actually visited the Earth, and am leery of the context of the present day promotion of the subject, as someone could fake the entire thing for their own cynical geo-political ends. [Yes, lie about it.]
Anyone have any comments about the Voronezh and Salyut 7 alleged sightings?
https://youtu.be/UVml9jDBfykReplies: @Ivashka the fool, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
I loved the part where they write "Only a scientific analysis . . .".
Why is this in English? Is the marxist . org page accurate?
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/soviet-life/index.htmReplies: @Dmitry
No, I’m asking Bashibuzuk, as he had seen them in the desert, if I remember.
Also he could remember the time when there was discussion about this in the society. In the recent decade in Russia, they removed the discussion and flooded the media with articles to laugh about this topic.
“Soviet Life” was kind of propaganda magazine that was to promote the Soviet Union in the West.
However, as you can see, it has many good articles. This is an article by Felix Zigal and it’s written in a responsible way, without adding ideology or too many speculations.
Yes, there is a connection. But maybe it is because he is more intelligent than us and is going to live in the nuclear bunker in the garden where concrete prevents Wi-Fi.
If you believe front page of Reddit, there was the most crazy UFO report also today, published after the beginning of the Ukrainian counter-offensive. Publishing about the UFO report today kind of reminds of https://politicaldictionary.com/words/friday-news-dump/
- * I expect, Bashibuzuk will say to me, liberals are responsible for the war, even though liberals are the people who oppose the war and also, were warning us about this war years ago. People like me were thinking "the liberals are panicking in stupid way about this topic". When we discuss Noize MC (liberal rapper of Russia) in this forum. Noize MC warns us this war and the deaths, was going to be years ago. Actually we see now, Noize MC was more accurate and knowledgeable, than anyone in this forum, including of course myself.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak
So let’s see if we can extract the bleached white bones of your theory from this rather long comment written in your charmingly elliptical and mildly opaque exotically foreign accent, which helps conceal the stark bleakness of your theory.
Culture is a manipulation of elites to take advantage of the hapless masses, whose beliefs and behavior are conditioned and determined by culture. Elites are technocrats with unlimited power to engineer mass opinion for entirely selfish ends.
Bashibuzuk, AP, and myself, are engineering products of elites and not free agents exercising moral choice.
You, however, see through this entire charade because you understand society is a machine that can be controlled through inputs, and the human being is a machine that has no other goal than self-maximization.
Therein lies your superiority, which places you on a level with the elites even if lacking their power.
The 18th century analogy of world as machine is your guiding principle and taken to it’s extreme. It’s like some gaunt, dessicated French philosophe stepped out of a three hundred year old Paris salon with an ironic smile frozen permanently on his face and onto this forum 🙂
And yet, if we touch your theory at any number of pressure points – called assumptions – it crumbles into the dust of cobwebs it is made of 🙂
But what sort of person would want to believe such a theory? What fears and terrors would drive him?
It's an illogical world view, but insofar as it utilizes the master-metaphor of modernity - world as mechanical device - it shines a light onto the irrationality of our times and it's unforced and chosen nihilism.
But now I must to bed and sweet sleep, and what dreams may come.Replies: @silviosilver
And now for something completely different.
This is a good summary of the Oroville Dam fiasco.
Fortunately, it did not fail. Damage was over $1,000,000,000 and hundreds of thousands of residents were evacuated from the downstream risk area.
Not to spoil the video, but the big mistake happened decades earlier. The initial survey was wrong. The design was for a bedrock base. Construction should have been red flagged in the 1960’s during the original build.
The channel has a second video on the emergency repair.
PEACE 😇
Do you mean, Poland has sphere of influence? Since when? Polaks are perennial complainers regardless of whatever system they live in.
Okay, first of all, how is the Ukrainian offensive going? We are getting very mixed reports from the front.
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what do you guys think about this guy:
Now, full disclosure: I really, really, really dislike stand up comedy as a medium. But I have definitely seen stand up that I found funny, even if I didn’t really enjoy it.
But this is just, like, it’s unreal how bad it is. And he is supposedly like the premier Zoomer comedian.
And you're not wrong about this dude. That was painfully unfunny.
I'm more disappointed by the audience though. Is it possible they're plants? If they're sincerely keeling over with laughter, God help us.
It's also interesting to see how far good looks can take a guy.Replies: @Greasy William
I am afraid, Dmitry, that you have a negative world view, which makes you legitimately fit in on this forum 🙂
It’s an illogical world view, but insofar as it utilizes the master-metaphor of modernity – world as mechanical device – it shines a light onto the irrationality of our times and it’s unforced and chosen nihilism.
But now I must to bed and sweet sleep, and what dreams may come.
What injustice? Hereditarianism is simply the best explanation - or at least a very good supplemental explanation - for why groups differ in mean outcomes. The real injustice is the "white racism" (non-) explanation, which holds whites guilty for crimes they're innocent of. Your denialism is complicit in perpetuating this injustice.
There is also another injustice to consider, which is insisting that people can be better than they actually can, and issuing angry denunciations when they fail to live up to your unrealistic expectations. What is the point of trying to drum algebra into people when they're still struggling with basic arithmetic, an activity which is already at the point of overloading their brains? And then pointing fingers left and right at falsely identified culprits (teachers, schools, parents, the students themselves). This is a straight recipe for unhappiness.
Lastly, hereditarianism doesn't eliminate personal agency. Under hereditarianism people are as free to set and pursue goals and values as they ever were. We can to a degree predict how successful their efforts are likely to be, but it's not such a precise science that we can speak in absolutes. And fortunately, most fulfilment in life doesn't come from being "the best" at something, but from simply being better than you were before - better at speaking French, better at playing the piano, better at raising your kids, better at cultivating friendships, better at painting, or whatever. It's an oversimplification, but Tony Robbins' refrain "progress equals happiness" gets it mostly right (for normal people, maybe not for world-rejecting spiritualists like you). Hereditarianism says that whatever goals or values people aim for, the likelihood of realizing them will be affected by hereditary factors. In short, it does not.Replies: @Sher Singh
I personally saw something remarkable when I was 14 - years old, in 1987. We were driving in a car with my mom and my younger brother. It was in the morning, probably around 7h00 am, I saw a bright light moving towards the horizon on the left side of the car. Suddenly, the light changed direction at an improbable angle and went at a tremendous speed flying over our car. My mom and brother saw it too. People around us were braking their cars and some tried parking. When it was passing, I had the time to see that inside the burning bright light, there was a visible shape that I recall being somewhat pyramidal or triangular. But I didn't have the time to look at it in more detail, it took only around 30 seconds ro reach us from the horizon and it was gone. Nothing was published in the newspapers about it in the next days despite at least a half dozen cars being around us when that happened.
Basically, I think that UFOs are real, but I have no idea what they are and what they are maid of. Plasma perhaps?
BTW, last year in the autumn the Ukrainian astronomers have written about the detection of numerous plasmoid UFOs in the Kiev's sky.
https://www.livescience.com/ukraine-ufo-uap-report
https://nypost.com/2022/09/14/ukrainian-astronomers-claim-ufos-everywhere-over-kyiv/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.11215Replies: @S
If a person checks the nightly news logs of the big three US networks at the time, this was reported in the US too, and not in any mocking fashion. It was reported straight, in at least that the Russians themselves were reporting it as if these things were happening, or they believed they were actually happening.
The two that got a lot of coverage in the US were the 1989 Voronezh park sightings, though the Wiki entry (not the best source, admittedly) doesn’t make it out to be that impressive and kind of questionable…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronezh_UFO_incident
And the alleged 1984 Salyut 7 Cosmonaut ‘winged angel’ sightings, which now doesn’t even rate a Wiki entry, and no mention positive or negative, at all on the Wiki Salyut 7 entry, which is not a good sign as to the veracity of the reports.
While I think there probably is extraterrestrial life, I’m less certain if they’ve actually visited the Earth, and am leery of the context of the present day promotion of the subject, as someone could fake the entire thing for their own cynical geo-political ends. [Yes, lie about it.]
Anyone have any comments about the Voronezh and Salyut 7 alleged sightings?
https://youtu.be/L3otoz9ODOE
🙂Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
2. If you use that word in your description the people who have seen a good one are less likely to tell you anything about it.
An internet bulletin board is a tough environment for this subject. I will tell you a bit about my own experience. I have never seen one. Maybe unlike the vast majority of people who have never seen one, I have spent an enormous amount of my life keeping my eyes open for them. And still do.
I also have never seen a leprechaun or a fairy but if I come across one you can bet I ain't gonna be posting about it on the internet. : )
marxists . org has a bunch of those Soviet Life issues on pdf available for download. Not the February 1968 edition that Dmitry posted images of which are not easy to read. If anybody knows where a friendlier format is I would be interested. I liked this one:
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/soviet-life/1984/10.pdf
The editors and writers place a high value on peace. Nobody knows why John Kennedy was murdered. There is some information that the motive was he wanted to partner with Russians on the moon mission.Replies: @S, @Dmitry, @S
Good for them!
https://assets.deutschlandfunk.de/1fbcc4b0-c8fd-45b7-9771-fe2f8e10fd98/1280x720.jpg?t=1663058502356Replies: @German_reader, @Yahya, @Derer
What volunteers you pinhead…those are desperate NATO low IQ, homeless recruits. Majority die in an unknown grave.
Don’t mention it, always a pleasure.
I don't see what the vaccines have to do with Jews one way or the other.Replies: @John Johnson, @silviosilver
He is very cagey about how Jewish he is. Doesn’t he claim to have a Jewish ancestor? And he seems to understand Hebrew, which would be a very unusual step for a non-Jew.
tbh I get much more of such a feeling from Aaron, with his endless attempts to "educate" commenters about the evils of their nationalist world view and attempts at psycho-analyzing them. Tiresome. But I guess this site might provoke such a reaction in many people, given the material it hosts.Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @silviosilver
Adolf Eichmann understood some Hebrew, IIRC. Seriously. He learned it so that he could study the Jewish question better.
How do you feel about Putin losing the Lordship of Kherson and the Earldom of Izyum? He’s still the Grand Duke of Crimea and the Prince of the Donbass, at least for now. Also the Baron of Melitopol, again at least for now.
(The Prince of the Donbass is modeled on the French title Prince of the Dombes.)
The actual data of every poll is kept secret and not audited by a neural body. For a simple reason, it is concocted and fake. That is why election polls are usually wrong (a la Kilary is ahead of Trump).
Anyway, polls are generally correct. The Trump general election polls were an exception to the general rule.
BTW, I suspect that it is the pro-Putin/pro-Russia Rightoids from the Woke Left will try purging first because they’re deemed the most subversive, dangerous, and repulsive. Pro-West Rightoids I think would be tolerated by the Woke Left for a longer time period since the Woke Left will want at least a semblance of respectable opposition–the “Respectable Right”, if you will, unlike those MAGA upstarts.
CNN had Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, and Jeffrey Lord as commentators, so the Woke Left clearly has some demand for “Respectable Right” figures. Though I’m unsure if CNN is fully Woke.
He’s told us several times that he’s got a Jewish great-grandfather. I suppose it’s a factor in his philosemitism (or rather enthusiasm for Israel, though it’s more of the touristy kind than anything genuinely Zionist), but I’ve never understood why people here insinuate he’s some kind of stereotypical Jewish subversive, comes across as paranoid tbh.
tbh I get much more of such a feeling from Aaron, with his endless attempts to “educate” commenters about the evils of their nationalist world view and attempts at psycho-analyzing them. Tiresome. But I guess this site might provoke such a reaction in many people, given the material it hosts.
The two that got a lot of coverage in the US were the 1989 Voronezh park sightings, though the Wiki entry (not the best source, admittedly) doesn't make it out to be that impressive and kind of questionable...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronezh_UFO_incident
And the alleged 1984 Salyut 7 Cosmonaut 'winged angel' sightings, which now doesn't even rate a Wiki entry, and no mention positive or negative, at all on the Wiki Salyut 7 entry, which is not a good sign as to the veracity of the reports.
While I think there probably is extraterrestrial life, I'm less certain if they've actually visited the Earth, and am leery of the context of the present day promotion of the subject, as someone could fake the entire thing for their own cynical geo-political ends. [Yes, lie about it.]
Anyone have any comments about the Voronezh and Salyut 7 alleged sightings?
https://youtu.be/UVml9jDBfykReplies: @Ivashka the fool, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
Comsat Angels ?
🙂
"Soviet Life" was kind of propaganda magazine that was to promote the Soviet Union in the West. However, as you can see, it has many good articles. This is an article by Felix Zigal and it's written in a responsible way, without adding ideology or too many speculations.Replies: @Ivashka the fool
Well, I just described the most remarkable sighting I ever had. Corroborated by my mom and brother many years after the incident. Although after all these years our memories diverged significantly, which is not surprising. At least, we still all remember that we saw something unusual.
The other times I saw peculiar lights in the sky, were in a rather wild and forested region where I happened to live for a few years in a small village. There was no light pollution that is usual in the cities and the stary skies were a beautiful sight. When watching them one could often see satellites and planes passing by. But sometimes some lights were harder to classify because of their unusual flying patterns. I used to joke about them being flying saucers. By I frankly have no idea what they were.
I have never seen anything strange in the desert.
https://www.paylessflights.com/images/galleries/225243ccbe7165ac4269518efbf23601.jpegReplies: @Ivashka the fool
I am aware of that.
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I think some of these recent attacks look like Russian false flags. The goal may be to create popular support and justification for moving on Kharkov.
My wild speculation:
The Russians will beef up border security from Belarus to Luhansk over the next several weeks. They will put out warnings that Kharkiv is at risk, so any helpless or retarded civilians still there will leave as best they can. Russia might open some sort of additional corridors for civilian refugees from the city to pass into Russia. While this is occurring the Russian missile attacks across the rest of the country will continue, possibly with more emphasis on rail infrastructure to the West.
Next they will destroy any serious air defense capabilities remaining within 50 miles of the city, even out to Poltava. This will be completed using coordinated attacks with missiles and aircraft. Once the main SAMS are destroyed they will bomb all militarily relevant targets in and around the city. I think this campaign will use Su-34 and Tu-22M aircraft. Fuel bunkers, ammo dumps, airport runways and rail yards will be destroyed first. Next will be substations and communications infrastructure. This stage may proceed gradually as they monitor what the Ukrainians are doing in other areas of the conflict.
The actual capture of the city of Kharkov is difficult for me to visualize. Wiki lists the metro population as ~ 1.7 million. Does anyone know how many people are still there? Whatever the number, the Ukrainian forces will use their own civilians as human shields making things as difficult as possible for the Russian troops. The way it plays out may depend on the number of AFU troops+NeoNazis+Ukr partisans versus the number of helpless civilians+non-combatants actually in the Kharkov metropolitan area. If the percentage of active fighters is high they may just lay siege. If there is a high proportion of civilians they may go in house to house. This depends on the the numbers on both sides including how many troops is Russia willing to commit to capture the city outright.
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If the Ukrainian leadership were smart they would surrender tomorrow. All of the surviving troops could potentially be organized into a fifth column and become a pain for Russia after the SMO ends. Eventually they will figure this out, but the cocky Ukrainians will demand unacceptable preconditions and concessions which will give Russia time to keep hammering away.Replies: @Derer
The Russian main preoccupation should be targeting and destroying the NATO military hardware shipment routes at the Ukraine’s west borders.
tbh I get much more of such a feeling from Aaron, with his endless attempts to "educate" commenters about the evils of their nationalist world view and attempts at psycho-analyzing them. Tiresome. But I guess this site might provoke such a reaction in many people, given the material it hosts.Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @silviosilver
Is Dmitry an Israeli citizen? Because if he would have immigrated to Israel other with his quarter-Jewish parent (his other parent can also come to Israel as well if the two of them are still married), then he could have acquired Israeli citizenship, I think. It’s still not too late for him to do this, hopefully.
TBH, the more that I think about it, the more that I’m baffled by Anatoly Crimeus Karlin’s logic:
Did a strong Soviet Union (in control of not only Ukraine but also Eastern Europe) prevent McCarthyism? No, it didn’t; rather, it was apparently stopped by the US Supreme Court:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
Thus, why exactly would he think that a strong Russia (a Russia that would have successfully conquered Ukraine and subsequently crushed any insurgencies there) would prevent Western Rightoids from getting cancelled?
>Past has Niggers
https://twitter.com/powerfultakes/status/1665648278594109440?s=20
Already see this happening.
Both sides are blaming the other for the destruction of the dam. Ukraine claims it didn’t have the weapons to do it: only planted explosives could have blown it up. But who knows? Each side benefits in different ways: the Left Bank (controlled by Russia) will be much more heavily flooded than the Right Bank (controlled by Ukraine) so Russians positions will be more heavily damaged. The destruction also eliminates a major source of fresh water for Crimea, and it will take a decade or more to fix it (though if Russia is thinking that it will lose Crimea this becomes a Ukrainian problem, not a Russian one).
On the other hand, this will make crossing the Dnipro much harder for Ukrainian forces so Russia will have a smaller front to defend. From this perspective, Russia benefits.
Hopefully there will not be a catastrophe at the nuclear plant. I wrote back in August:
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-194/#comment-5503467
“If the plant blows up while Ukraine is collapsing, at a time when the fallout travels eastward and ruins Donbas, Rostov and a lot of southern Russia, Ukraine probably did it.
And if the plant blows up while Russia is losing and exiting Ukraine, and at a time when the wind is blowing westward for a few days, Russia probably did it.”
Hopefully neither sides fucks that up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station#World_War_II_and_post-war_reconstructionReplies: @AP
Is there hope for Germany? (1)
In related news — Meloni’s government has finally started handing out 1st Offense penalties for Muslim trafficking. (2)
20 days of impoundment is not cheap for a large vessel. The key is that 2nd, 3rd, and subsequent infractions ratchet up to harsher penalties.
PEACE 😇
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(1) https://rmx.news/article/germany-needs-new-elections-right-populist-afd-partys-new-record-polling-high-of-19-sparks-national-political-debate/
(2) https://rmx.news/migrant-crisis/italy-detains-migrant-rescue-vessels-accused-of-violating-new-maritime-laws/
Not happening. A lot of Donbass folks like this one below. I like it with Soviet taken out.
Hey, nicely put. I’ve been searching for the right words to describe it for quite some time and this is better (certainly gentler) than anything I’ve come up with.
That’s pretty good too.
Yeah I didn't really know how to describe it, I just know half the time reading Dmitry I only half understand what he's really getting at, but my system is sending off alarm bells that there is something really wrong with it and even sinister about it, but it's all so amiable and avuncular and pleasantly foreign :)
But I'm starting to get a clearer idea.
tbh I get much more of such a feeling from Aaron, with his endless attempts to "educate" commenters about the evils of their nationalist world view and attempts at psycho-analyzing them. Tiresome. But I guess this site might provoke such a reaction in many people, given the material it hosts.Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @silviosilver
Yeah okay, I couldn’t remember whether it was a grandfather or great-grandfather. That by itself doesn’t tell you much. Someone with a Jewish father might decide he’s not Jewish at all, someone else with a Jewish granddad might go all in on Jewish identity.
If that was aimed at me, I wasn’t suggesting anything like that nor do I think my interactions with him have been characterized by such an assumption. I do recall asking him point blank whether he called himself Jewish when he visited Israel, which he declined to answer. He’s so keen to talk about everything Israel I thought it was weird to dodge that question.
I didn’t know that. Obviously it’s not impossible that someone might learn Hebrew. Learning the ancient tongue was once common among intellectuals. Nowadays there is less interest in modern Hebrew, but I’m sure some non-Jews get interested enough to learn it. But generally, when someone can speak Hebrew (and has a pro-Israel opinion), it’s fairly safe assumption he’s Jewish.
*I mean actual gentiles, not people who are only technical gentiles due to them having the "wrong" Jewish parent or grandparent.Replies: @silviosilver
Never heard of them. All trail running shoes must have a minimalist design though. My mid-low range $100 gore tex Under Armour shoes are also ultralight. When trail running all you want to have is some sole protection but you need full freedom of movements in your feet and ankles to avoid injuries. I use them all year round, both in the winter snow (with gaiters and thick socks) and in the scorching summer heat. I’ll probably have to replace them soon so I’ll check the Xeros models.
Speaking of which, the other day I asked my wife, whose main hobby is shopping around, to buy me a new cap for running. After the ridiculous Dylan Mulvanney Nike ad, which was outright mockery of real women, I didn’t feel like advertising that brand on my head when running so she bought me a new Adidas cap. Just a couple of weeks later I learned that Adidas had also released its own infamous “tuck-friendly” woman swimsuit for pervy exhibitionists. There’s no escaping from the woke madness really. It should be tremendously easy for some GOP-affiliated group to maintain a list of woke promoting companies so that the half or two thirds of the population who don’t align with those values can stop the madness with our pockets but they’re just too distracted with their own anti-vax or 2nd ammendment obsessions to waste their time in the culture wars that they’re losing so badly.
Btw, nothing wrong with being gay, as far as I’m concerned, if that’s the way you were born and you keep your sexuality in the private sphere, like the rest of us, but now that we all know thar Mr XYZ feels attracted to “tucked” crossdressers I wonder if he even realizes how much his confession must have put off some of his regular interlocutors.
In truth I cannot recommend them, at least not without reservation. On one level they are the lightest and most comfortable shoes I've ever worn, with incredible ground feel, and I really wanted them to work out, but the soles are simply too thin for me and after about 10-15 miles my feet are literally killing me, I am walking through pain, and I'm limping for a few hours after.
It's supposed to take months for your feet to acclimatize, but it's been over a year and I haven't really, so I've switched back to more cushioned shoes like Altra's. Oh well.
But there are people who hike the AT literally barefoot, so YMMV.
It's unfortunate that everything is so politicized these days and aggressive radical agendas are being pushed on unwilling people. I think conservatives are pushing back though as the recent Budweiser fiasco is showing.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel
Sorry, can't relate.
Also, why are military boots so stiff for the field then?
GOAL - x1 General Purpose boot, good enough for street, good on rucks.
-10C to +25C operating range -5 to +20 comfort.
Max 1ft of Snow, Swamp/Forest, low lying hills <3km.
Current boots - Looking to get: Hoping the Garmont are energetic, wide enough for 2 socks/insole & cool above 10C.
I can't do non-mesh above 10C in wool anymore.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640459736919048202/1115303685346578443/image.png
Current main boot:
https://fundytactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/55316-1.jpg
Next & would've gotten before if available in Canada:
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-q9ptxvukwz/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2746/109727/garmont-t8-bifida-tactical-boot-t8__32865.1597353008.jpg
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what do you guys think about this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AwsR1iqsuE
Now, full disclosure: I really, really, really dislike stand up comedy as a medium. But I have definitely seen stand up that I found funny, even if I didn't really enjoy it.
But this is just, like, it's unreal how bad it is. And he is supposedly like the premier Zoomer comedian.Replies: @silviosilver
I feel the same way.
And you’re not wrong about this dude. That was painfully unfunny.
I’m more disappointed by the audience though. Is it possible they’re plants? If they’re sincerely keeling over with laughter, God help us.
It’s also interesting to see how far good looks can take a guy.
Open Israel’s doors to more gentile* immigration, and you’ll have more gentiles* speaking Hebrew.
*I mean actual gentiles, not people who are only technical gentiles due to them having the “wrong” Jewish parent or grandparent.
Yep, that’s me! Albeit not enough for me to actually attend a synagogue–yet, at least!
Neural or neutral?
Anyway, polls are generally correct. The Trump general election polls were an exception to the general rule.
It's an illogical world view, but insofar as it utilizes the master-metaphor of modernity - world as mechanical device - it shines a light onto the irrationality of our times and it's unforced and chosen nihilism.
But now I must to bed and sweet sleep, and what dreams may come.Replies: @silviosilver
From the previous OT, with respect to the precautionary principle
Hereditarianism isn’t fatalistic, it’s probabilistic. Take someone with a predisposition to be violent. He isn’t violent every minute of every day. There is simply some probability above the average that he will react violently in a given context. His predisposition is a random variable, which means even he won’t react violently in the same context every time. For someone with a very violent predisposition, the probability is much higher than average.
What injustice? Hereditarianism is simply the best explanation – or at least a very good supplemental explanation – for why groups differ in mean outcomes. The real injustice is the “white racism” (non-) explanation, which holds whites guilty for crimes they’re innocent of. Your denialism is complicit in perpetuating this injustice.
There is also another injustice to consider, which is insisting that people can be better than they actually can, and issuing angry denunciations when they fail to live up to your unrealistic expectations. What is the point of trying to drum algebra into people when they’re still struggling with basic arithmetic, an activity which is already at the point of overloading their brains? And then pointing fingers left and right at falsely identified culprits (teachers, schools, parents, the students themselves). This is a straight recipe for unhappiness.
Lastly, hereditarianism doesn’t eliminate personal agency. Under hereditarianism people are as free to set and pursue goals and values as they ever were. We can to a degree predict how successful their efforts are likely to be, but it’s not such a precise science that we can speak in absolutes. And fortunately, most fulfilment in life doesn’t come from being “the best” at something, but from simply being better than you were before – better at speaking French, better at playing the piano, better at raising your kids, better at cultivating friendships, better at painting, or whatever. It’s an oversimplification, but Tony Robbins’ refrain “progress equals happiness” gets it mostly right (for normal people, maybe not for world-rejecting spiritualists like you).
Hereditarianism says that whatever goals or values people aim for, the likelihood of realizing them will be affected by hereditary factors.
In short, it does not.
*I mean actual gentiles, not people who are only technical gentiles due to them having the "wrong" Jewish parent or grandparent.Replies: @silviosilver
Actually, that’s something the desperate secular establishment might try, as a last gasp attempt to save the kind of country they thought they had. Maybe require a token “conversion” to sweeten the deal for voters. Presumably it’d be highly selective immigration, not some come one, come all farce, which is a straight ticket to negrofuxxation. I’m sure it would face heated opposition though.
The challenge is getting Israeli Jews to agree that they should proselytize to smart, talented, and highly skilled gentiles. Not anything involving coercion, of course, but simply teaching them more about Judaism and telling them that they can move to Israel if they will agree to convert to Judaism, as well as telling them the benefits of moving to Israel.Replies: @John Johnson
That would actually be a smart move on Israel’s part. Recruit smart, talented, and highly skilled non-Jewish immigrants, at least if they agree to convert to Judaism beforehand. There could be concerns that these conversions could be insincere but it’s unclear that this would be a huge problem. If too many fraudulent cases will appear, then Israel’s government might have to reverse course on this.
The challenge is getting Israeli Jews to agree that they should proselytize to smart, talented, and highly skilled gentiles. Not anything involving coercion, of course, but simply teaching them more about Judaism and telling them that they can move to Israel if they will agree to convert to Judaism, as well as telling them the benefits of moving to Israel.
I wrote this comment about ten times, apologize to people bored of re-reading it. From Israel’s categorization, I have “Jewish roots to the third generation” – grandfather who had a Jewish mother.
As for if I can say to someone I am Jewish? The answer is no, as my mother is not Jewish because not her mother because not her mother etc. It would be like saying you’re a doctor, when you are not a doctor i.e. fraud.
As for if I can say I have Jewish roots? I think it’s not misleading or boasting to say that. I have documented roots. But it’s not my main roots, so it’s a minority of my roots, but it is at least documented roots.
As for Israel, legally, they give “Jewish roots to third generation people” right for citizenship, also for citizenship future wife and children of the “Jewish roots third generation people” before they are 18. Although external passport is more complicated.
If I can write about Israel in internet forums? I don’t have knowledge of the locals. I don’t think anyone will confuse me with an expert. But I lived a few months there total, I have a few friends still there now, learn some language, enjoy some of the Israeli television etc. My comments, hopefully therefore could be more accurate than if I write about politics of Myanmar or Uganda and perhaps are not completely touristical, only a little.
But anyway, I'm going to assume some responsibility here because I accused you of being cagey about how Jewish you "are," when I should have said about how Jewish you "feel" or "identify as," because that's what I'm more interested in.
How hard is it to answer, "Yeah while I was in Israel I said I'm Jewish" or "Nah, while I was in Israel I didn't say I was Jewish"? It's not as if I would really care either way. I was just interested in how you see yourself. So when you don't answer, well sorry, it feels like this is a sensitive question for you or even that you're trying to conceal something. But whatever, I'll drop it now and I won't mention it again.
I believe Dmitry already is an Israeli citizen.
Demonstrates the ridiculousness of Israeli citizenship laws tbh.
If his only Jewish ancestor is a great-grandparent, then he is less than 7% Middle Eastern by ancestry.
Yet gets to acquire citizenship and have right to residence in Israel.
Meanwhile Palestinians are barred from visiting the land of their grandparents.
Because apparently Palestinians come from Arabia and aren’t really native to the area.
But Dmitry and other Russians with 7% Levantine ancestry are.
LMAO.
I do agree with you that, morally speaking, the Palestinians should get a right of return to their ancestral homeland. (I'd say the same thing for the descendants of post-WWII expelled Germans, though it's made easier now due to the EU, I suspect.) It's just the question of how to square this with the risk of renewed Jewish persecution--not necessarily immediately, but eventually. And giving Palestinians permanent residence rights in Israel but not citizenship, voting rights, or social safety net access would just create a hereditary caste system that the Palestinians would not be willing to tolerate over the long-run and is thus likely to result in huge social unrest and possibly in a giant Palestinian terrorism wave (or more than one) in Israel sooner or later.Replies: @A123
On the other hand, this will make crossing the Dnipro much harder for Ukrainian forces so Russia will have a smaller front to defend. From this perspective, Russia benefits.
Hopefully there will not be a catastrophe at the nuclear plant. I wrote back in August:
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-194/#comment-5503467
"If the plant blows up while Ukraine is collapsing, at a time when the fallout travels eastward and ruins Donbas, Rostov and a lot of southern Russia, Ukraine probably did it.
And if the plant blows up while Russia is losing and exiting Ukraine, and at a time when the wind is blowing westward for a few days, Russia probably did it."
Hopefully neither sides fucks that up.Replies: @Dmitry
Just, hopefully not like similar destructions of dams in 1941.
This is a maybe controversial estimate – “The flooding surge killed 20,000 to over 100,000 unsuspecting civilians, as well as Red Army officers who were crossing over the river”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station#World_War_II_and_post-war_reconstruction
This sequence suggests a Russian fuck-up:
https://twitter.com/volodyatretyak/status/1666015265971118082?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1665974996311605250?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcgReplies: @A123
Oh please, fraud schmaud. There are people who undergo completely insincere sham conversions for the purpose of marriage who call themselves Jewish. You can’t possibly be unaware of this.
But anyway, I’m going to assume some responsibility here because I accused you of being cagey about how Jewish you “are,” when I should have said about how Jewish you “feel” or “identify as,” because that’s what I’m more interested in.
How hard is it to answer, “Yeah while I was in Israel I said I’m Jewish” or “Nah, while I was in Israel I didn’t say I was Jewish”? It’s not as if I would really care either way. I was just interested in how you see yourself. So when you don’t answer, well sorry, it feels like this is a sensitive question for you or even that you’re trying to conceal something. But whatever, I’ll drop it now and I won’t mention it again.
The only true alternative to politics is religion - authentic religion. Even what we call the Left is ultimately a version of Right wing power seeking. Yep, it's true. And the Buddha, Lao Tzu, too. It's because the only way out of power politics is authentic religion.Replies: @Coconuts
As I said Schmitt is trying to define the political as such, so if his definition is correct both right and left will do this when they are engaging in politics. Whenever there is disagreement in a political community about how to allocate scarce resources and opposing groups form in support of different options, or there are disagreements about two or more conflicting lines of policy the friend/enemy distinction can arise. It obviously varies in intensity, with mild opposition as you used to see in political debates where I am in the 2000s, to war at the other extreme.
I didn’t mention liberals specifically, I was maybe talking about followers of liberal in the first paragraph, Woke tend to be suspicious of or reject liberal political norms. Politicising activities outside of a formal public sphere is more like the opposite of liberalism. Imo the right have been committed to liberalism for some time, they might try and politicise some things in the private sphere (e.g around sex, abortion) but in the UK haven’t had much success since the 1980s. I suppose 1945 would be when the right’s last attempt to politicise all of social life ended.
I am actually surprised the woke managed to do it as I assumed liberal attitudes had become so strong that it wouldn’t be possible (like the way the woke introduced political factions into hobby activities like knitting and collecting model soldiers after 2020).
Religion might reduce division over distribution of resources by making people less materially focused and more empathetic, as well as providing strong norms that everyone in a community accepts. Otoh real world religions, other than some syncretic universal ones, can provoke friend/enemy divisions due to being vehicles for different visions of the Good or identifying conflicting sources of authority.
I think Jesus considered as Christ, God, isn’t political because he has infinite being, needs no resources, is perfect unity itself (so can’t split into factions) and possesses perfect knowledge. There is no scope for the political, as Schmitt defines it, in him.
The realm of duality is politics, of non-dualism religion.
Yes, religion can become just another vehicle for politics, and generally always has, but this kind of institutional religion is a tool of rulership and social control, and not authentic.
That's why I said only "authentic" religion can lift one out of politics. .
Very well said.
Mankind needs such a vision of ultimate being even if we spend our lives stuck in our petty sublunary squabbles - but to occasionally, even regularly, lift ones gaze to a realm beyond all that is essential.
>Conservatives want to preserve the past
>Past has Niggers
Already see this happening.
Speaking of which, the other day I asked my wife, whose main hobby is shopping around, to buy me a new cap for running. After the ridiculous Dylan Mulvanney Nike ad, which was outright mockery of real women, I didn't feel like advertising that brand on my head when running so she bought me a new Adidas cap. Just a couple of weeks later I learned that Adidas had also released its own infamous "tuck-friendly" woman swimsuit for pervy exhibitionists. There's no escaping from the woke madness really. It should be tremendously easy for some GOP-affiliated group to maintain a list of woke promoting companies so that the half or two thirds of the population who don't align with those values can stop the madness with our pockets but they're just too distracted with their own anti-vax or 2nd ammendment obsessions to waste their time in the culture wars that they're losing so badly.
Btw, nothing wrong with being gay, as far as I'm concerned, if that's the way you were born and you keep your sexuality in the private sphere, like the rest of us, but now that we all know thar Mr XYZ feels attracted to "tucked" crossdressers I wonder if he even realizes how much his confession must have put off some of his regular interlocutors.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @Sher Singh
Xeros are not just ultralight but barefoot – and perhaps I overstated the case to Dmitry about how trending they are 🙂
In truth I cannot recommend them, at least not without reservation. On one level they are the lightest and most comfortable shoes I’ve ever worn, with incredible ground feel, and I really wanted them to work out, but the soles are simply too thin for me and after about 10-15 miles my feet are literally killing me, I am walking through pain, and I’m limping for a few hours after.
It’s supposed to take months for your feet to acclimatize, but it’s been over a year and I haven’t really, so I’ve switched back to more cushioned shoes like Altra’s. Oh well.
But there are people who hike the AT literally barefoot, so YMMV.
It’s unfortunate that everything is so politicized these days and aggressive radical agendas are being pushed on unwilling people. I think conservatives are pushing back though as the recent Budweiser fiasco is showing.
For hiking I use the Vivo barefoot more often than the Altra.Replies: @Mikel, @Ivashka the fool
It's quite depressing actually. The Bud Light fiasco shows that many people are fed up with big execs of large corporations hating them and pushing woke values non-stop down their throats. They're definitely willing to punish those companies by buying somewhere else but all they can do is token gestures that lead nowhere. Their media and representatives don't stop congratulating them and reporting daily how much revenue Bud Light and Target have lost but they don't seem to care if all that money goes to equally woke corporations instead. It's too much effort to put up a list of non-woke companies where people could spend their money and really make a difference.
Leftists are not like that at all. They are much better organized and have groups like ACLU, ADF, etc whose sole purpose is to maintain lists of individuals, companies and institutions that deviate from leftists dogmas. They are ruthless cancelling people, companies or whatever gets in their way.
It's just a fact of life in Western societies that leftists are on average smarter (or perhaps I should say less dumb) than conservatives. People actually sense this and it's just easier for the masses to go along with the smarter people's message. Last Sunday there was a huge Pride parade in Salt Lake City. 16,000 participants in the parade and 30-40k people gathered around it in the middle of Red America. These are real figures, I've been to that parade twice to see what it's like and the crowds are huge. The Utah Pride website has a page with all the sponsors of their events and Walmart and Smiths (main competitors of Target here) are featured prominently. The SLC Police Department did not only protect the parade but actually took part in it with its own delegation of lgtbq officers. OK, this would be more difficult to imagine in more conservative districts of the state but everything will come in due time. Who would have imagined some years ago a huge parade of local drag queens and queers of all stripes marching in front of the great Mormon Temple?
Anyway, I don't even know how much you relate to all of this being a New Yorker but don't worry too much if you finally decide to drive west draped in a BLM flag. You may get some strange looks but it's unlikely to go beyond that. It's not like me driving to Portland or Seattle with a big MAGA flag :-)Replies: @Greasy William
What injustice? Hereditarianism is simply the best explanation - or at least a very good supplemental explanation - for why groups differ in mean outcomes. The real injustice is the "white racism" (non-) explanation, which holds whites guilty for crimes they're innocent of. Your denialism is complicit in perpetuating this injustice.
There is also another injustice to consider, which is insisting that people can be better than they actually can, and issuing angry denunciations when they fail to live up to your unrealistic expectations. What is the point of trying to drum algebra into people when they're still struggling with basic arithmetic, an activity which is already at the point of overloading their brains? And then pointing fingers left and right at falsely identified culprits (teachers, schools, parents, the students themselves). This is a straight recipe for unhappiness.
Lastly, hereditarianism doesn't eliminate personal agency. Under hereditarianism people are as free to set and pursue goals and values as they ever were. We can to a degree predict how successful their efforts are likely to be, but it's not such a precise science that we can speak in absolutes. And fortunately, most fulfilment in life doesn't come from being "the best" at something, but from simply being better than you were before - better at speaking French, better at playing the piano, better at raising your kids, better at cultivating friendships, better at painting, or whatever. It's an oversimplification, but Tony Robbins' refrain "progress equals happiness" gets it mostly right (for normal people, maybe not for world-rejecting spiritualists like you). Hereditarianism says that whatever goals or values people aim for, the likelihood of realizing them will be affected by hereditary factors. In short, it does not.Replies: @Sher Singh
Jewish individualism stems from the fact that nobody hates Jews more than Jews.
Ah, thanks.
Yeah I didn’t really know how to describe it, I just know half the time reading Dmitry I only half understand what he’s really getting at, but my system is sending off alarm bells that there is something really wrong with it and even sinister about it, but it’s all so amiable and avuncular and pleasantly foreign 🙂
But I’m starting to get a clearer idea.
Interesting.
The realm of duality is politics, of non-dualism religion.
Yes, religion can become just another vehicle for politics, and generally always has, but this kind of institutional religion is a tool of rulership and social control, and not authentic.
That’s why I said only “authentic” religion can lift one out of politics.
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Very well said.
Mankind needs such a vision of ultimate being even if we spend our lives stuck in our petty sublunary squabbles – but to occasionally, even regularly, lift ones gaze to a realm beyond all that is essential.
Speaking of which, the other day I asked my wife, whose main hobby is shopping around, to buy me a new cap for running. After the ridiculous Dylan Mulvanney Nike ad, which was outright mockery of real women, I didn't feel like advertising that brand on my head when running so she bought me a new Adidas cap. Just a couple of weeks later I learned that Adidas had also released its own infamous "tuck-friendly" woman swimsuit for pervy exhibitionists. There's no escaping from the woke madness really. It should be tremendously easy for some GOP-affiliated group to maintain a list of woke promoting companies so that the half or two thirds of the population who don't align with those values can stop the madness with our pockets but they're just too distracted with their own anti-vax or 2nd ammendment obsessions to waste their time in the culture wars that they're losing so badly.
Btw, nothing wrong with being gay, as far as I'm concerned, if that's the way you were born and you keep your sexuality in the private sphere, like the rest of us, but now that we all know thar Mr XYZ feels attracted to "tucked" crossdressers I wonder if he even realizes how much his confession must have put off some of his regular interlocutors.Replies: @HeavilyMarbledSteak, @Sher Singh
>cap
Sorry, can’t relate.
Also, why are military boots so stiff for the field then?
GOAL – x1 General Purpose boot, good enough for street, good on rucks.
-10C to +25C operating range -5 to +20 comfort.
Max 1ft of Snow, Swamp/Forest, low lying hills <3km.
Current boots –
Looking to get:
Hoping the Garmont are energetic, wide enough for 2 socks/insole & cool above 10C.
I can’t do non-mesh above 10C in wool anymore.
Current main boot:

Next & would’ve gotten before if available in Canada:

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Hat evokes a larger item to me. With no further qualifications it would possibly be understood to be a cowboy hat around here, though I think I've sometimes heard people talk about hats when referring to caps, not sure. I guess they're optimized for foot an ankle protection, like hiking shoes, not for uphill running. If you do a lot of uphill running with no freedom of movement for the ankle you'll soon get tendinitis, as I found out years ago, when I was new to the trail running vogue.Replies: @Sher Singh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station#World_War_II_and_post-war_reconstructionReplies: @AP
There will be conspiracy theories but it’s likely that this was either a Russian mistake like Chernobyl (Russians were playing with water levels on the already-damaged dam before it burst, they may have tried a limited destruction in order to flood out Ukrainians who had just taken positions on islands in the Dnipro) or deliberate scorched-Earth tactics (in addition to making it harder for Ukrainians to cross the Dnipro, irrigation to the area Ukraine is about to try to take will be gone, NPP will be gone, and Crimea will lose much of its fresh water).
This sequence suggests a Russian fuck-up:
_____The Oroville Dam video above provides good background on dam issues, regular spill ways, and emergency overflows.https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-220/#comment-5996205The number of things that can go wrong is larger than one might think. And, once an industrial accident is underway, sometimes it cannot be brought back.PEACE 😇Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack
sorry babe cant rn, larping as mentally ill on the unz review
If so, unfortunately pretty true.Replies: @songbird
Based.
Also, Russia falling apart
https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/prigozhin-demands-200k-men-to-form
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Is that a comment on the quality of this thread?
If so, unfortunately pretty true.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LupercalReplies: @German_reader, @S, @silviosilver
The challenge is getting Israeli Jews to agree that they should proselytize to smart, talented, and highly skilled gentiles. Not anything involving coercion, of course, but simply teaching them more about Judaism and telling them that they can move to Israel if they will agree to convert to Judaism, as well as telling them the benefits of moving to Israel.Replies: @John Johnson
That would actually be a smart move on Israel’s part. Recruit smart, talented, and highly skilled non-Jewish immigrants, at least if they agree to convert to Judaism beforehand.
Convert to Judaism???? It isn’t like joining the Rotary club.
It’s a huge pain to convert if you aren’t born into it. They don’t want Christians converting unless you really, really want to marry a Jewish girl. They pretty much have a feats of strength challenge setup to earn that ass. But it’s mostly memorizing. No one is going to do it for business reasons.
A rich or clever man’s son/daughter is often a target for assimilation.
See Abraham, Jacob or even Joseph.Replies: @John Johnson
Only if you go the orthodox route.
Only if you go the orthodox route.Uh no they have a minimal process for all potential Jews and it is intentionally laborious
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-conversion-process/Unless you mean fake convert as in just show up as the new husband and act like you have always gone.Replies: @silviosilver
The two that got a lot of coverage in the US were the 1989 Voronezh park sightings, though the Wiki entry (not the best source, admittedly) doesn't make it out to be that impressive and kind of questionable...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronezh_UFO_incident
And the alleged 1984 Salyut 7 Cosmonaut 'winged angel' sightings, which now doesn't even rate a Wiki entry, and no mention positive or negative, at all on the Wiki Salyut 7 entry, which is not a good sign as to the veracity of the reports.
While I think there probably is extraterrestrial life, I'm less certain if they've actually visited the Earth, and am leery of the context of the present day promotion of the subject, as someone could fake the entire thing for their own cynical geo-political ends. [Yes, lie about it.]
Anyone have any comments about the Voronezh and Salyut 7 alleged sightings?
https://youtu.be/UVml9jDBfykReplies: @Ivashka the fool, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry
1. If you have seen one there isn’t anything alleged about it.
2. If you use that word in your description the people who have seen a good one are less likely to tell you anything about it.
An internet bulletin board is a tough environment for this subject. I will tell you a bit about my own experience. I have never seen one. Maybe unlike the vast majority of people who have never seen one, I have spent an enormous amount of my life keeping my eyes open for them. And still do.
I also have never seen a leprechaun or a fairy but if I come across one you can bet I ain’t gonna be posting about it on the internet. : )
marxists . org has a bunch of those Soviet Life issues on pdf available for download. Not the February 1968 edition that Dmitry posted images of which are not easy to read. If anybody knows where a friendlier format is I would be interested. I liked this one:
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/soviet-life/1984/10.pdf
The editors and writers place a high value on peace. Nobody knows why John Kennedy was murdered. There is some information that the motive was he wanted to partner with Russians on the moon mission.
About Soviet Life, I once had access to a Soviet journal made for Western consumption (ie in English) from about circa 1980. It may have been called Soviet Military Review though I've forgotten the exact name.
One of the photo stories involved a Russian tank crew enjoying a lunch break while training out in the field. The back cover had a photo of what looked like a group of teenage Young Pioneers in white shirts with red scarves, visiting a Soviet naval vessel, IIRC. The back and front covers were slick stock and in color, while the rest of the magazine was in black and white, and of a lower grade paper.
One thing which was noticeable was that quite a few of the black and white images looked to be a cross between a painting and an actual photograph, as airbrushing was used liberally, and they didn't really seem to particularly try and hide it.
Of course, the Capitalist United States has had, and does have, it's propaganda too. :-)
There is a good article about the Urals region in 1967, I recommend . It's optimistic propaganda, but they don't want to waste the time of the readers and add a lot of data and information which is accurate, even a lot of information which relates to the region today.
Below is a clip of excerpts from the first episode called 'Identity'. [Beneath 'More' is the entire episode.]
'Have you ever thought about the victims of UFO incidents? Have you ever considered their parents, brothers, sisters? What do we tell them? They live in agony for years, praying that someday their loved ones may turn up, clinging to a thread of hope.'
'You realize, of course, that they can never know the truth!'
https://youtu.be/EpF6o2-nx4I
https://youtu.be/sBBSKdp_QKoReplies: @S, @A123
https://youtu.be/L3otoz9ODOE
🙂Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
This sequence suggests a Russian fuck-up:
https://twitter.com/volodyatretyak/status/1666015265971118082?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcg
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1665974996311605250?s=46&t=Qz3eXZWFYIvyHmaAk32tcgReplies: @A123
Were there flaws in the original in the 1950’s design or construction? This is what ultimately underpinned the Oroville dam issue in the U.S. Were the Ukrainians performing proper maintenance on the Kakhovka dam over the years? There may have been weaknesses in the structure before it came under Russian control.
Civilian water experts are unlikely to want to be on the front lines. Russian military engineering corps would know the basics, but this is over their normal maximum size. Operator error is quite possible. An objective analysis would be useful. However, chances of that happening are pretty slim.
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The Oroville Dam video above provides good background on dam issues, regular spill ways, and emergency overflows.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-220/#comment-5996205
The number of things that can go wrong is larger than one might think. And, once an industrial accident is underway, sometimes it cannot be brought back.
PEACE 😇
Well, at the very least you'll no longer need to stay up late worrying about Crimean water needs - there soon may not be any...Replies: @QCIC
Why Crimea could be key in Ukraine winning the war:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-crimea-could-be-key-to-ukraine-winning-the-war/
Even when Christ fraternized with the gentiles, and even healed some of them, I think that some viewed him as being political. But he was very clear about his role within the earthly system and in the one to come:
It’s one of these statements that suggest Jesus was a troll and probably even a fictional one.
If you are a close observer of Jewish radicalism and ethnic supremacy how many advocate paying taxes to goyim? They like to collect. The Greek writer was using his tropes well here.Replies: @Mr. Hack
_____The Oroville Dam video above provides good background on dam issues, regular spill ways, and emergency overflows.https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-220/#comment-5996205The number of things that can go wrong is larger than one might think. And, once an industrial accident is underway, sometimes it cannot be brought back.PEACE 😇Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack
There you go again, playing the devil’s advocate, unable to see what’s directly in front of your nose.
Well, at the very least you’ll no longer need to stay up late worrying about Crimean water needs – there soon may not be any…
I view this as a Ukrainian effort to raise visibility for the war and garner more NATO support. The entire Western-sponsored war is about creating destruction and scorched Earth. The goal is mostly to inflict this pain on Russia, but don't forget that for many of the evil Western blowhards behind this mess, Russians and Ukrainians are very similar. They view all of you guys as a bunch of dumb Slavs to be manipulated. The people pushing this at the top are mostly Jewish. The Western marriage with Kievan Slavs is mostly one of convenience, as with the NeoNazis.Replies: @A123
In truth I cannot recommend them, at least not without reservation. On one level they are the lightest and most comfortable shoes I've ever worn, with incredible ground feel, and I really wanted them to work out, but the soles are simply too thin for me and after about 10-15 miles my feet are literally killing me, I am walking through pain, and I'm limping for a few hours after.
It's supposed to take months for your feet to acclimatize, but it's been over a year and I haven't really, so I've switched back to more cushioned shoes like Altra's. Oh well.
But there are people who hike the AT literally barefoot, so YMMV.
It's unfortunate that everything is so politicized these days and aggressive radical agendas are being pushed on unwilling people. I think conservatives are pushing back though as the recent Budweiser fiasco is showing.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mikel
It took me three years to accustom myself to zero-rise enough to finally prefer it. Altra is definitely the gateway drug. The last time I tried to find New Balance Minimus I could not. Right now I run with Xero but only on a track. Running on trail is not something that I find to be fun.
For hiking I use the Vivo barefoot more often than the Altra.
A pair a year.
It’s a huge pain to join if you aren’t born into it.
Only if you go the orthodox route.
Uh no they have a minimal process for all potential Jews and it is intentionally laborious
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-conversion-process/
Unless you mean fake convert as in just show up as the new husband and act like you have always gone.
_____The Oroville Dam video above provides good background on dam issues, regular spill ways, and emergency overflows.https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-220/#comment-5996205The number of things that can go wrong is larger than one might think. And, once an industrial accident is underway, sometimes it cannot be brought back.PEACE 😇Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack
Why Crimea could be key in Ukraine winning the war:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-crimea-could-be-key-to-ukraine-winning-the-war/
Well there goes the Larry C Johnson/MacGregor/Moon of Alabama theory that Bakhmut is an elaborate trap set by the Russians and that they are choosing to hold it as a strategy.
It’s almost as if failing to invade Kiev and then getting pushed back to Kherson wasn’t a complex ruse after all.
What else did Larry C Johnson say? Oh right that Prigozhin is acting and that he and Putin dreamed up the rift to trick the Ukrainians. I guess the best plan they could come up with was to have Prigozhin insult the Russian military command.
Right.
I think Russia will begin seriously going after 'fifth columnists' and probably institute martial law on the border. Is surprising if they did not have this already and might be another hint this is a fake war.
In Ivashka's paradigm, is Prigozhin a Noviop for RusFed or is he pro-Russia?Replies: @John Johnson
Well, at the very least you'll no longer need to stay up late worrying about Crimean water needs - there soon may not be any...Replies: @QCIC
This is a classic issue since an interesting circumstantial case can be made that either side destroyed the dam. Either way, war is Hell. The world will be very lucky if this is not a minor footnote by the time this is over.
I view this as a Ukrainian effort to raise visibility for the war and garner more NATO support. The entire Western-sponsored war is about creating destruction and scorched Earth. The goal is mostly to inflict this pain on Russia, but don’t forget that for many of the evil Western blowhards behind this mess, Russians and Ukrainians are very similar. They view all of you guys as a bunch of dumb Slavs to be manipulated. The people pushing this at the top are mostly Jewish. The Western marriage with Kievan Slavs is mostly one of convenience, as with the NeoNazis.
This has the hall marks of an industrial accident rather than an attack. The water level was maxed out and something failed.
PEACE 😇Replies: @QCIC
I view this as a Ukrainian effort to raise visibility for the war and garner more NATO support.
Ukraine would like Russia out of their country.
The war started with Putin launching missiles at Kiev.
The people pushing this at the top are mostly Jewish.
Putin started the war and gave his reasons for doing so in a speech:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/full-transcript-of-vladimir-putin-s-speech-announcing-a-special-military-operation-20220224-p59zhq.html
Or did you forget about that already? An excerpt from that speech:
At the same time, our plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories. We are not going to impose anything on anyone by force.
Launches missiles at civilian areas and then says he won’t do anything by force.
This is the homicidal dwarf you continue to defend as part of some mad delusion that it is all caused by Jews. His Jewish commander is in fact about to defect due to the dictator’s incompetence.
Russian leaders have given a lot of speeches where they point out:
1) The USA dropping out of the ABM treaty is an existential threat to Russia. The USA knows this, that was the point.
2) Expansion of the anti-Russian NATO military alliance to the Russian border is an existential threat to Russia. NATO knows this, that is the point.
3) Supporting an anti-Russia coup in a Russian sister-border country is an existential threat to Russia. The West knows this, that was the point.
4) Russia will respond to these dire threats at a time and place of her choosing.
The West believes Russia is weak and can be tamed while keeping the risk of nuclear war to a moderate level. The existence of the Status-6 and "Dead hand" systems suggest the Russian military takes this more seriously than our amateur Western statesmen believe.Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikhail, @Wokechoke, @John Johnson
Only if you go the orthodox route.Uh no they have a minimal process for all potential Jews and it is intentionally laborious
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-conversion-process/Unless you mean fake convert as in just show up as the new husband and act like you have always gone.Replies: @silviosilver
Oh I think I get it now. You are describing the fact that there are steps and standards at all as “a huge pain.” I guess I see it differently.
The phrase or epigram if you like was Jesus being asked a Journalistic and therefore very Jewish question. One designed to discredit him with the following he had and the authorities who could quote him back. It was also a good joke reply.
It’s one of these statements that suggest Jesus was a troll and probably even a fictional one.
If you are a close observer of Jewish radicalism and ethnic supremacy how many advocate paying taxes to goyim? They like to collect. The Greek writer was using his tropes well here.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/full-transcript-of-vladimir-putin-s-speech-announcing-a-special-military-operation-20220224-p59zhq.htmlOr did you forget about that already? An excerpt from that speech:At the same time, our plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories. We are not going to impose anything on anyone by force.Launches missiles at civilian areas and then says he won't do anything by force.This is the homicidal dwarf you continue to defend as part of some mad delusion that it is all caused by Jews. His Jewish commander is in fact about to defect due to the dictator's incompetence.Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC
Wait, you mean Prigozhin is a dual citizen? Shock.
It’s one of these statements that suggest Jesus was a troll and probably even a fictional one.
If you are a close observer of Jewish radicalism and ethnic supremacy how many advocate paying taxes to goyim? They like to collect. The Greek writer was using his tropes well here.Replies: @Mr. Hack
The only one that comes off as being a troll “and even a fictional one” is you “cokebloke”. Give it a rest, you’re becoming delusional with your anti-Jewish tropes here.
The list from Prigozhin’s speech is great. I stand by my earlier estimate that his rhetoric blend is 1/3 true, 1/3 false and 1/3 third made up. He put a lot of heat on Shoigu.
I think Russia will begin seriously going after ‘fifth columnists’ and probably institute martial law on the border. Is surprising if they did not have this already and might be another hint this is a fake war.
In Ivashka’s paradigm, is Prigozhin a Noviop for RusFed or is he pro-Russia?
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-russia-ukraine-bad-news-1804476He may not know that the border raids have been by anti-Putin Russians. He doesn't use the internet. There is no reason to assume that he will react at all. In Ivashka’s paradigm, is Prigozhin a Noviop for RusFed or is he pro-Russia?An amoral opportunist that is pro-Russian unless it leads to total humiliation. A materialistic scumbag but also their best general at the time. Very bizarre situation where a mafia chef with zero military experience builds a private army and yet understands the war better than his professionally trained peers. A Russian military training certificate will be the next ITT Tech or Trump college degree.Replies: @QCIC
I view this as a Ukrainian effort to raise visibility for the war and garner more NATO support. The entire Western-sponsored war is about creating destruction and scorched Earth. The goal is mostly to inflict this pain on Russia, but don't forget that for many of the evil Western blowhards behind this mess, Russians and Ukrainians are very similar. They view all of you guys as a bunch of dumb Slavs to be manipulated. The people pushing this at the top are mostly Jewish. The Western marriage with Kievan Slavs is mostly one of convenience, as with the NeoNazis.Replies: @A123
And, there is a good chance that neither side intentionally sabotaged the dam. No one wants to place the nuclear power station at risk by depriving it of cooling water. And, Russia needs to keep levels high enough to feed the Crimea canal.
This has the hall marks of an industrial accident rather than an attack. The water level was maxed out and something failed.
PEACE 😇
Some of these events have solid ambiguity.
The reactors should have been shut down fully a year ago. How many are still operational? If they are operational it is another data point in the fake war outlook.
Maybe the Russians will salvage/reclaim 50 miles of the NS pipelines and throw them in the Kerch straight to feed water over from Rostov.Replies: @A123
If so, unfortunately pretty true.Replies: @songbird
Have you ever thought of that cave in the Palatine Hill that supposedly nobody has been in for over thousand years? What could be in there?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercal
I was recently reading about the Old St Peter's Basilica, which was ordered constructed by Constantine I and which stood for over a thousand years, ie between the 4th and 16th century. It's a shame they tore it down, but in a place where everything is figuratively an antique, they can't hold on to everything.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_St._Peter%27s_Basilica
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Affresco_dell%27aspetto_antico_della_basilica_costantiniana_di_san_pietro_nel_IV_secolo.jpg/800px-Affresco_dell%27aspetto_antico_della_basilica_costantiniana_di_san_pietro_nel_IV_secolo.jpg
Happily, Rome still has these cool items, not to mention the Pantheon, a real gem. :-)
The Fontana Della Pigna from 1st century AD. Yes, originally a fountain shaped like a pine cone.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontana_della_Pigna
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Cortile_della_Pigna_pine_cone_2.jpg/800px-Cortile_della_Pigna_pine_cone_2.jpg
The 125 foot tall Pyramid of Cestius, a tomb, from about 12 BC.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Cestius
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Cimetière_anglais_de_Rome.jpg/800px-Cimetière_anglais_de_Rome.jpg
The question he was asked is a journalist’s “gotcha”. Either you are good Jew who keeps it kosher or a good Roman Subject who licks boots of the Emperor. The answer so evasive that it becomes a literary punchline like something out of Aristophanes.
Caesar's Coin, by Peter Paul Rubens (1612–1614)
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/full-transcript-of-vladimir-putin-s-speech-announcing-a-special-military-operation-20220224-p59zhq.htmlOr did you forget about that already? An excerpt from that speech:At the same time, our plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories. We are not going to impose anything on anyone by force.Launches missiles at civilian areas and then says he won't do anything by force.This is the homicidal dwarf you continue to defend as part of some mad delusion that it is all caused by Jews. His Jewish commander is in fact about to defect due to the dictator's incompetence.Replies: @Wokechoke, @QCIC
I’m not defending Russia, Putin or the war. I am explaining it in adult terms.
Russian leaders have given a lot of speeches where they point out:
1) The USA dropping out of the ABM treaty is an existential threat to Russia. The USA knows this, that was the point.
2) Expansion of the anti-Russian NATO military alliance to the Russian border is an existential threat to Russia. NATO knows this, that is the point.
3) Supporting an anti-Russia coup in a Russian sister-border country is an existential threat to Russia. The West knows this, that was the point.
4) Russia will respond to these dire threats at a time and place of her choosing.
The West believes Russia is weak and can be tamed while keeping the risk of nuclear war to a moderate level. The existence of the Status-6 and “Dead hand” systems suggest the Russian military takes this more seriously than our amateur Western statesmen believe.
Let's see a source on that. As with the other Putin defenders you rarely provide one. Here is Putin's original speech for the war:
The USA dropping out of the ABM treaty is an existential threat to Russia. The USA knows this, that was the point.
Putin hasn't mentioned a treaty from 20 years ago in any of his war speeches. That is your own personal theory.
Here is the full text of his Feb 2022 speech:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-putin-s-declaration-of-war-on-ukraine/
No mention of the ABM.
Expansion of the anti-Russian NATO military alliance to the Russian border is an existential threat to Russia. NATO knows this, that is the point.
Explain this statement given that:
1. The Baltics are already on the Russian border and yet they don't have nuclear weapons
2. Ukraine did not qualify for NATO and did not have the votes of Germany and France before the invasion
Supporting an anti-Russia coup in a Russian sister-border country is an existential threat to Russia. The West knows this, that was the point.
Do explain how removing a corrupt president is a coup. Or are you denying that he was corrupt?
This has the hall marks of an industrial accident rather than an attack. The water level was maxed out and something failed.
PEACE 😇Replies: @QCIC
Ok, Dam Slugs.
Some of these events have solid ambiguity.
The reactors should have been shut down fully a year ago. How many are still operational? If they are operational it is another data point in the fake war outlook.
Maybe the Russians will salvage/reclaim 50 miles of the NS pipelines and throw them in the Kerch straight to feed water over from Rostov.
2. If you use that word in your description the people who have seen a good one are less likely to tell you anything about it.
An internet bulletin board is a tough environment for this subject. I will tell you a bit about my own experience. I have never seen one. Maybe unlike the vast majority of people who have never seen one, I have spent an enormous amount of my life keeping my eyes open for them. And still do.
I also have never seen a leprechaun or a fairy but if I come across one you can bet I ain't gonna be posting about it on the internet. : )
marxists . org has a bunch of those Soviet Life issues on pdf available for download. Not the February 1968 edition that Dmitry posted images of which are not easy to read. If anybody knows where a friendlier format is I would be interested. I liked this one:
https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/soviet-life/1984/10.pdf
The editors and writers place a high value on peace. Nobody knows why John Kennedy was murdered. There is some information that the motive was he wanted to partner with Russians on the moon mission.Replies: @S, @Dmitry, @S
I’ve never seen one, and have been in areas of the US where they were said to be occurring. I looked, too, but didn’t see anything. And, I’m open to the possibility.
About Soviet Life, I once had access to a Soviet journal made for Western consumption (ie in English) from about circa 1980. It may have been called Soviet Military Review though I’ve forgotten the exact name.
One of the photo stories involved a Russian tank crew enjoying a lunch break while training out in the field. The back cover had a photo of what looked like a group of teenage Young Pioneers in white shirts with red scarves, visiting a Soviet naval vessel, IIRC. The back and front covers were slick stock and in color, while the rest of the magazine was in black and white, and of a lower grade paper.
One thing which was noticeable was that quite a few of the black and white images looked to be a cross between a painting and an actual photograph, as airbrushing was used liberally, and they didn’t really seem to particularly try and hide it.
Of course, the Capitalist United States has had, and does have, it’s propaganda too. 🙂
So Poland has a ‘historic sphere of influence‘, so does little England, Turkey, maybe even Romania or Lithuania. But Russia? Absolutely not !!!! that’s imperialism!!!!
And you expect to be taken seriously….:)
Spheres of influence are for strong or important countries, and Russia is the 98 lb weakling of this war.
I think Russia will begin seriously going after 'fifth columnists' and probably institute martial law on the border. Is surprising if they did not have this already and might be another hint this is a fake war.
In Ivashka's paradigm, is Prigozhin a Noviop for RusFed or is he pro-Russia?Replies: @John Johnson
The list from Prigozhin’s speech is great. I stand by my earlier estimate that his rhetoric blend is 1/3 true, 1/3 false and 1/3 third made up. He put a lot of heat on Shoigu.
Which would make it 33% more reliable than anything that comes out of the Kremlin.
I don’t trust the guy but I have never doubted that his frustration with the government is real. That was never fake and I completely understand.
I think Russia will begin seriously going after ‘fifth columnists’ and probably institute martial law on the border. Is surprising if they did not have this already and might be another hint this is a fake war.
Well according to the latest rumor they are keeping Putin from any bad news: