Much love to all the beautiful people! Whether you get angry or frustrated with one another, whether you feel pride and joy in hearing someone appreciate your thoughts and share them or offer you consolation during a loss of personal sanity or close beloved, whether you just want to gather information or want to change the course of the eternal, we are all here by choice and by intention; we are all here for our benefit and others’; we are all here to learn and to educate; and here we are all One.

And remember, like The Man says in Heartbreak Ridge, “Don’t give The Prick the satisfaction!”

Nothing says “officially approved” like a pile of corpses. Like Boeing, Pfizer was allowed to investigate its own product and determine it safe. Meanwhile some swamp creature receives GS-15 pay to operate a rubber stamp.

At the rate headlines catch up to conspiracy theories, vaccinated humans within range of 5G networks will soon be controlled by AI via the graphene oxide hydrogel in the jabs. This will no doubt improve their critical thinking.

The cabal could be at war with an AI. That’s why they want everyone wearing masks, to stymie facial recognition. Imagine if Skynet decided to only wipe out the MIC instead of using the MIC to wipe out humanity?

AI is as likely to wipe out humans as we are to wipe out dogs. We will be AIs’ best friend.

For people who have employers (including government) demanding you get the jab:

1. For a few days prior to the shot, drink extra liquids and take extra vitamin C, ascorbic preferred.

2. Allergies REALLY wake up for this thing. My wife, who works a pharmacy, has a nasty case of hives at certain seasons of the year. She had them within two weeks of the jab and needed a round of steroids to bounce back. For reference, she got the Moderna.

3. The Johnson and Johnson 1-shot really is the easiest on your system. If you must, that’s the one. No one I know had any serious reactions to it.

How is it a question to vax or not to vax when they are ready to put into effect mandates, at the cost of losing your job.

The question is not whether to vax or not to vax. There is no real free choice here. As DeBlasio said, “the voluntary phase is over; now we are to use force.”

The real issue is can they mandate these vaccines. Go on the CDC site, and they tell you the adverse effects are a little sting, a little fever, a little redness at the site. The CDC is ignoring the thousands of deaths. The CDC is ignoring the tens of thousands of debilitating injuries. But these deaths and those serious injuries are documented and are acknowledged by the scientific community. They answer these deaths and injuries as an “acceptable death rate”, an acceptable risk to our health. Clearly, the individual in this country counts for nothing, and if it is not clear to anyone with these mandates, it should be clear enough in what they are doing to American citizens in Afghanistan. Finally, we have a reason to invade that country, and they are running the other way. We invade it to save individual American lives. We see clearly that the individual no longer is important in our country.

I am supposed to risk my life and put something in my body that could kill me, or seriously injure me as an “obligation to society” or my livelihood will be taken from me?

That’s the issue. and that’s the fight, and it’s going to get ugly.

No government, and no person, has the right to ask anyone to do that.

Current headline:

An unvaccinated teacher spread COVID-19 to 50% of students in a classroom after taking off a mask to read, CDC says.

Chum. Shark tank. Go.

What is interesting is the recent rollout of Monoclonal Antibodies by infusion to those who have symptomatology and have co-morbidities or are elderly. This could be a game changer and shift the balance of power from the monopoly drug companies to the patients. From what I read, Monoclonal Antibodies are 85%+ efficacious.

What is equally interesting but not on the media radar screen or choreographed scripts, is that what might be called Folk Medicine may be effective in early prophylaxis (Ivermectin in particular but also vitamin supplements like NAC, Zinc and Quercetin. The University of Nebraska medical school did a study showing NAC + Bromelain enzyme dissolved the spike protein on the bio-weapon (AKA coronavirus).

Researchers report the so-called SARS-2 coronavirus is comprised of food molecules (protein spike, sugar coating over protein spike so that the spike can hide from the immune system, all wrapped in a lipid (fat) carrier. It is not some chemical agent or chemical weapon like Sarin. Put differently, it can be inhibited by enzymes and amino acids like NAC that are the building blocks of proteins, as well as by Ivermectin, a lactone, that binds and inhibits import into the body of viral proteins. A Lactone is an Ester such as naturally occurring fats are Esters of fatty acids. Aspirin is an Ester.

If your employer demands that you take the shot or get fired, they open themselves up to liability. You can’t sue the vaccine company but you (or your survivors) can sue the employer.

There have to be 100 000 corporate legal briefs by now trying to finagle this.

I would like to see one of these corporate communications telling you to get vaccinated or else. The attempt to hedge their responsibility must be awesome. I heard one employer said their health insurance premium was going to go up by 200\$ a month if they were unvaccinated. By this logic you can charge people for being fat.

A continuation of the covid vaxxing debate, because if there’s anything Mr Unz likes it’s comments, lots of comments. He doesn’t really care if you agree or disagree with him, or that re- this discussion, biology appears to be one of his weaker skill sets. And he probably thinks most of you are idiots, likely myself more than most. Nevertheless great numbers of comments appear to be a kind of rubric by which he measures the health of his webzine, and who knows by what arcane alchemy he works his magic? Without Google, without Facebook, our Unz.com is still standing.

Today, according to data presented on the Our World In Data website, 150,000 Americans are diagnosed as having Covid 19.

On their “Daily new deaths per million people” graph, the number is 3.12. There are 320,000,000 Americans so total deaths per day is 3.12 x 320 = 1000.

1000 deaths per day / 150,000 Americans diagnosed with Covid today = a death rate of 1 / 150.

According to an article in Aug. 26 Daily Mail, which quotes a study carried out by Columbia University which was published in Nature,

“Researchers from the Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health simulated transmission of the virus across the country, and found that 31 percent of the country’s population had contracted the virus at some point last year.

This means that there could have been around 100 million cases in the U.S. last year compared to the official count of 34.4 million – an undercount of nearly 66 percent.”

The article continues:

“This is not the first time that researchers have found cases in the U.S. could have been undercounted last year.

A University of Washington study from last month found that cases were undercounted by 60 percent, and the true case count could be as high as 86 million.”
And further,

“The team says its simulation also found that nearly 80 percent of cases may have gone undetected. When combined with the 171.8 million people who are fully vaccinated, this could mean that 271.8 million Americans have immunity to the virus – although this number does not account for people who were infected and later got vaccinated.”

Now some numbers and figuring:

Total deaths attributed to Covid, 632,283 + or -.

632,283/100,000,000 = 0.00632 or, 1 death out of 158 infected which is remarkably close to the figure of 1 out of 150 derived above from entirely different data sets.

And neither of these figures is immune from the likelihood of over-counting deaths so the death rate per infected is probably much lower. And of course, the distribution of death is heavily skewed towards the elderly. So, why is Fauci still pushing for inoculation for children? Or, for that matter, since the bulk of us have either been infected or have been inoculated, why the incessant drum beat to inoculate the reluctant?

More numbers from Stastica which I then used as a basis for calculating comparisons which a reader can get a handle on:

Deaths per cohort:

Deaths: age 0-17, 361 out of 71, 360,000 persons; age 18-29, 2630 out of 52,480,000 persons; age 30-39, 7501 out of 43,200,000 persons; age 40-49, 19,776 out of 39,360,000 persons; age 50-64, 98,973 out of 61,440,000 persons; age 65-74, 137,149 out of 30,720,000 persons; age 75-84, 167,533 out of 15,680,000 persons; age 85 and older, 180,608 out of 6,400,000 persons. Total deaths, 614,531.

(Using a figure of 320,000,000 million Americans)

Proportion of population in each age group which has died due to Covid:
Age 0-17, 1 out of 197,673; age 18-29, 1 out of 19,954; age 30-39, 1 out of 5759; age 40-49, 1 out of 1990; age 50-64, 1 out of 621; age 65-74, 1 out of 224; age 75-84, 1 out of 94; age 85 and older, 1 out of 35.

Again, why the push to inoculate those who are relatively immune from dying of the disease? There is something going on here that is not being discussed openly. Fauci and crew are not leveling with us. What is their real agenda? Obviously, it has nothing to do with the health and safety of the population. And I don’t believe that it is merely to make a profit from his investments in any of the drug companies. The real cause or reason runs deeper than that.

My whacked-out, Forever Wars Veteran, arsonist buddy from around the corner is 38 years old. His legs are riddled with shrapnel from either Iraq or Afghanistan–he was in both. He came home, went crazy, went to prison for arson. Got out, cleaned up, and in June got double vaxxed so he could see his grandma in a nursing home. He’s a little fat, but mostly a very physical guy, always doing something and on the move.

Right now (he called me two days ago), he is in the hospital with “congenital” heart failure. Wouldn’t the Army have caught this on entry or during his stay in military hospitals for his wounds?

I think, instead of killing grandma, he killed himself. Said he gained 40 pounds in four days and that they sucked out a ton of liquid from his abdomen. They did that to my husband about a week before he died. I fear he’s doomed.

Two other neighbors got vaxxed June 6 this year. Both look like the walking dead, and one was laid up for a month and a half. Her unvaxxed boyfriend just caught covid, but he’s coming home after a week from the hospital tomorrow, and he is a frail old sort, whereas the others are not.

My neighbor across the street got vaxxed and now bitches constantly about her expanding varicose veins.

That’s five people in my immediate circle. Near neighbors.

I know it’s all anecdotal, but I think I’m going to give this one a miss.

Huh? In all the discussion, never mind posts, no mention of Dr. Robt. Malone who was in on the beginning of the mRNA therapy research and along with others, criticizes them for turbo charging the variants aka Antibody Dependent Enhancement or ADE. He’s been on a tear at Twitter for one.

Remember, this is a joint venture. The emperor is well dressed, until he’s not. Then all the walls and excuses come tumbling down.

I refer to Raches’ comment: https://www.unz.com/announcement/covid-to-vaxx-or-not-to-vaxx/?showcomments#comment-4868712
My first impression on reading it was of a pigeon on a chessboard. One normally just shoos them away and cleans up the mess, but this pigeon crowed so ostentatiously in follow up comments that shooing it away calls for a response.

Raches, I’ve no desire to corrupt this thread with a debate about money, so I’ll restrict myself to a paragraph or 2. I don’t expect you to respond.

Your conflation of money and currency is (probably) the foundation of your misunderstandings, and it is clear from your statement that you are unaware of how and why currency works and gold’s historic and current role. If the simplicity of your comment is any indication, its workings are far more complex than you imagine, and its relationship to money is subtler than you can imagine.

If you can learn enough to understand…
[a] Gresham’s Law: (bad money drives out good) and so why gold occasionally acts as a currency
[b] why history’s longest lived currency (Tally Sticks) was so successful
[c] what drives a currency’s acceptance, and inversely its repudiation (not referring to money here)
[d] Triffin’s Dilemma (and why I qualified my original statement with “Up to a point.”)
[e] why the USD maintains its pre-eminence despite its profligate currency issuance
and, yes…
[e] why Gold is currently so cheap
… we can talk. Pending the appearance of a suitable thread, of course.

Again, why the push to inoculate those who are relatively immune from dying of the disease? There is something going on here that is not being discussed openly. Fauci and crew are not leveling with us. What is their real agenda? Obviously, it has nothing to do with the health and safety of the population. And I don’t believe that it is merely to make a profit from his investments in any of the drug companies. The real cause or reason runs deeper than that.

I suspect “they” know ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement) is a real possibility this coming flu season, and so would prefer to have EVERYONE vaccinated so there is no “control group” to glaringly show it is the vaccinated who are most at risk. If the population were to ever wake up to the possibility these vaccines (which have been unrelentingly propagandized into us) were the cause of a massive wave of death….it truly strains the imagination to conceive of the potential blowback. If what I propose is true, there is going to be MASSIVE efforts to sweep the “mistakes” under the rug.

I call on healthy and fit people under 65 in the San Francisco Bay area to join me in an “infection party” (it will be tricky finding an infected person to infect us). Basically, the goal of the party will be to get us all infected and thereby develop natural immunity to Covid and all its future variants.

I will provide Ivermectin (12 mg tablets), Quercetin (1000 mg), Vitamin-C (1000 mg), Vitamin-D (10,000 IU), and zinc – 10-day supply. I obtained 1000 Ivermectin tablets from a friend in India, so I can supply 100 people.

Any takers?

That Would Be Telling, please help me start this thread off better than the last one ended.

In this comment, I will try to summarize briefly my reasons for avoiding the vaccines. For a deeper discussion, I am supposed to be completing an article for Mr. Unz about that (and doing it to my perfectionistic standards), instead of smashing bad sticks in a rearguard maneuver.

I must make it clear: I arrived at my position as independently as anyone can, outside of a total vacuum. My skepticism of the vaccines largely grew from my alarm at the Covid mass-hysteria, which I first independently perceived about 18 months ago—long before the vaccines. My wariness is partly a matter of instinct and intuition.¹ And thus far, my predictions have proved generally to be correct—with what I am realizing may be one exception, which I will here identify in brief.

That last point is indubitably the most important: Insofar as I can see, I have been right all along.

As for Covid itself, I never had or claimed the expertise to make accurate predictions of cases and deaths; but I predicted that it would be bad—not Black Death bad, very far from that, but bad. I have perforce adjusted some of my opinions on Covid policies; and Ron Unz’s biological weapons theory must change many of my other calculations. However, absolutely nothing that I have seen thus far has ever fundamentally altered or contradicted my original position about how we should face Covid itself, which may be abstracted as such:

Lots of people will die. Tough times are ahead. We need to avoid panicking, so that we can survive this. Large groups of humans have collectively survived much worse plagues in the past, with death tolls proportionately an order of magnitude higher. They survived, because they had old-fashioned fortitude instead of modern cowardice. Panic and mass hysteria can turn grim prospects into unmitigated catastrophe.

We need to face this problem coldly and rationally, with psychological acceptance of the fact that death happens, and it will now happen to many people—probably millions around the world. Furthermore, we need to resist letting untrustworthy governments exploit this crisis for corrupt ends; that can only make things worse.

Overall: This is bad. Let’s not make it worse.

As to Covid generally, both denial and panic are insane. I do not fear Covid: I face it as a risk that should be mitigated with prudent measures. I wear a mask when appropriate, in the same manner that a soldier on the battlefield wears a helmet and body armor: I know that there is a difference between bravery and false bravado. Furthermore, I am not careless about the potential impact of my actions on other people.

I know that Covid could kill me—may yet kill me, or cause me some quite unpleasant suffering. I take rational, prudent precautions to mitigate the risk. I do not fear Covid. The working title of my forthcoming article includes the aphorism, memento mori: I do what I reasonably can to prolong my lifetime, but I do not live in fear about risks that may make me die sooner rather than later. I am aware that I am mortal. I psychologically accept the fact that no matter what I do, the hand of Fortune may strike me down at any moment; and I despise wishful thinking. Life is danger: I know that the only way to take no risks is to die.

As to many Covid-related issues including the vaccines, I fear the product of hubris and false hopes. Stampeding herds of humans frighten me in ways that cold Nature and inexorable Fortune do not. And I saw this coming, both rationally and “intuitively”: Overpromising and underdelivering.

Now, That Would Be Telling, we know that at best, the vaccines are not delivering on the high hopes with which they were announced. Governments and the mass-media gave billions of people the expectation that the vaccines would be a silver bullet. These popular expectations, which were encouraged and not adequately contradicted from scientific quarters, all sounded like science fiction to me. It was science fiction. At this point, that cannot reasonably be denied.

Vaccines that were promised to be the safest ever, are turning out to be some of the riskier ones. We can see that already, at this early date—with, of course, the future being yet unknown. This does not necessarily mean that people should remain unvaccinated: The dangers of the vaccines must be weighed against the danger of Covid, which itself is very dangerous; and the calculation must include many variables, such as improving the use of masks and other protective measures. We need to stop the unqualified, chanted slogans about how “the vaccine are safe”, as are commonplace in the mass-propaganda for the vaccines. And we need to accept that some people may choose to weigh the risks differently than others.

Vaccines that were widely expected to eradicate Covid obviously aren’t doing so, and won’t do so anytime soon. Efficacy is bad. The anti-vaxxers who demand a perfect 100% standard of efficacy are ludicrous—but these vaccines, which have more safety problems and less long-term testing than most vaccines, also have lower efficacy than most vaccines. We need to stop the unqualified, chanted slogans about how “the vaccines work”. And we need to accept that some people may choose to weigh the benefits differently than others.

“New data” are not an excuse: If I, as a non-expert, could correctly predict that we would have no immediate silver bullet, and that this bleeding-edge technology would have some safety bugs, then any “experts” who didn’t see that coming have failed, and they must recover from a state of error.

The development of variants is not an excuse: Anyone who does not repudiate the theory of evolution must have predicted the likelihood of that, straight from the start of the pandemic!

Maybe these vaccines have some good technology; maybe, maybe not. They clearly need more debugging. I do believe that many excellent scientists are striving in good faith to understand and mitigate the safety problems. As for efficacy, as you said, maybe the virus will “run out of tricks”; that seems not unlikely to me. But we just are not there yet—not on any point.

Honest, correct information, which reports both the good and the bad points about the vaccines, is absolutely critical. So is maintaining the freedom for intelligent people to discuss this openly. We need to stop the corruption of the regulatory process. And as these fast-moving events develop, individuals and families need to be able to make their own private medical choices without undue pressure—let alone government coercion.

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Since I have had no substantial contact with vaccine debates before, I am beginning to realize that I likely made one significant error in my predictions—an error of omission.

I did not foresee that there would be any organized faction zealously determined to stop people from getting vaccinated, “at any cost”. Maybe that was a bit naïf of me, but I really expected for this to be a debate whereby those opposed to the vaccines were trying to make medical decisions for themselves and their families, and express their opinions in good faith. I did not foresee that anyone would try to stop even those who want the vaccines from getting them, at any cost. I reasonably expected to see some stupidity, some crackpot theories, and more than a few quack fallacies—but I did not expect to see so much pathological lying.

Well, there does seem to be someone out there who is attacking all Covid vaccinations per se—by any means, at any cost, without even the slightest regard for the truth. It is a neat mirror-image of the highly organized, well-funded push to get people vaccinated by any means, at any cost. Both these sides sicken me. I need to adjust my assessments of the political situation, as I continue to investigate this subject.

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That Would Be Telling, I think that despite our disagreements about the vaccines themselves, you and I are essentially on the same side here.

You and I both want to mitigate the plague—and we hope, someday to eradicate it. Neither of us is leveraging the Covid vaccines for ulterior political motives. We are both, in essence, scientifically-minded—although your biological knowledge far exceeds mine, and I am much less optimistic than you are about the ability of scientists to deliver miracles on command. We both despise liars, grifters, and insane nutcases. I am not a crazy absolutist against coercive public health measures in any hypothetical circumstance whatsoever—and I am guessing that you may be reluctant to hand even more power to what you call “our ruling trash”, especially when the vaccines in fact have so many problems that it would be not only unethical, but disastrous to inflict them on people forcibly.

I think that you and I and like-minded people on both sides of this debate must stand together, despite being divided by the vaccination issue in and of itself. Let’s cut diagonally across both camps, unite the people who are discussing this in good faith, and knock out the fulcrum being leveraged by anyone who is exploiting Covid and/or the vaccines for ulterior motives.

To that end, I request first that you point out anywhere in the foregoing where my premises are substantially incorrect as to fact, or nontrivially inconsistent with the facts. I know that there are some points subject to nitpicking; but overall, I believe that I am generally correct as to the facts. Moreover, I think that you and I have similar perceptions of the facts, with a few important differences; and most of our disagreement is one of practical value judgment, the weighing of many variables in a very complex calculation. (Double that for Mr. Unz’s position versus mine.) But if I am wrong as to the facts in some materially important way, then I should wish to discover that, and adjust my analysis accordingly.

I know that I have spoken here in broad, general terms; but I see that many here are getting even the generalities flat-out wrong. If I seem to be generally correct, then we can move on to the details. I believe that you are approaching this in good faith, and would make likewise corrections if warranted.

Further than that, let’s talk about this in a civilized and rational way.

Thank you.

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Footnotes:

1. When I say “intuition”, I refer to the type of mental tact as allows some people to make drastic, split-second decisions with absolute self-assurance. When statesmen or generals give such orders that terrify their diplomats or officers, and those orders prove to be sound, we may infer that they probably have a logical, scientifically explicable logical process which operates much faster, and on much more data, than the ordinary course of conscious thought; neither mysticism nor other irrationality are required. Hitler, Napoleon, and I think in America, General Patton are merely a few examples of historical figures who were known sometimes to make sudden, inexplicable decisions, which turned out to be entirely correct—and who did so more often than blind luck could have allowed, in circumstances in which reliance on luck would have been suicidal.

The claim of such a process is, of course, not admissible grounds for a position in a public debate. I do not offer it as such. Rather, I explain why when I say that my decisions here are partly based on “intuition”, my position should not be dismissed out of hand. When my gut hunch all along was that lots of things would go wrong here, and that there would be more or less a massive débâcle, I was accordingly guided to examine this matter from a different perspective—a road that led eventually to my involvement in these discussions, here at The Unz Review. That is what I mean by “intuition”.

My intuitions in this matter have predicted events as accurately as any scientific method—and more accurately than many scientists. Most importantly hereby, all of my arguments can be supported without reference to “intuition”.

Following up from my previous comment:

I would warn against other people referring to That Would Be Telling as a “he”. I am absolutely convinced TWBT is a SHE. There are several reasons for this, chief among them the fact she makes quite liberal use of the “Troll” react at the slightest provocation.

I suppose it is within the realm of possibility that “she” is actually a “he”, but in that case, “he” would be a rather prissy and fussy sort, no? The sort of “male” who is so “sensitive” as to be inordinately frightened of environmental germs (which have been with humanity since the beginning) that “he” would place an oversized faith in scientism and the “linear inevitability of Progress”.

So, really, six or one-half dozen or the other….

I hope it was clear that this was a joke, if the FBI is reading this.

The tragic death of Lisa Shaw shows why smearing those with concerns over Covid vaccines as ‘anti-vaxxers’ is wrong
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/533238-bbc-presenter-shaw-death-astrazeneca/

The official coroner’s finding that BBC radio presenter Lisa Shaw died as a result of complications from the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine should give those who have been vilifying the ‘vaccine-hesitant’ pause for thought.
If Lisa Shaw hadn’t taken a Covid vaccine then she would, in all probability, still be alive today. The mother of one, a popular presenter at BBC Radio Newcastle, was only 44 years old and fit and healthy, with no known underlying conditions.

How many deaths can be linked to the various Covid vaccines? It’s impossible to know for certain, but the government’s own website informs us: “The MHRA has received 508 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,056 reports for the Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 17 for the Covid-19 Vaccine Moderna and 28 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified.”

So that, at the time of writing, is a total of 1,609 deaths of ‘suspected’ ADRs in which the patient died shortly after vaccination.

The two of my neighbors who look like the walking dead received the J&J vaxx and \$100 each (bribing… errr…. killing the poor).

Varicose veins lady works in health care. Moderna

Crazy Vet wanted to visit his grandma. Phizer.

Me? Horse paste Ivermectin 1.87 percent, apple flavor–I got it just in case. A good syringe (didn’t need it), some empty gel caps. Dose for a 1,200 pound horse with instructions as to weight. I shall employ the calculator as to how much I need.

Were I to take a vaxx, I’d probably ask for Sputnik V, but none of the shit they’re promoting here.

When all is said and done, I trust myself a lot more than I’ll ever trust the news or a doctor again.

I wear a mask when appropriate, in the same manner that a soldier on the battlefield wears a helmet and body armor

I hope you don’t mean those cloth or surgical masks. They don’t do shit.

You might be better served by a properly fitted N95 mask. Unfortunately, aerosolized virons (NOT droplets) are as small as 1 micron, when, last I heard, N95 masks are rated down to 3 microns AT BEST. This is comparable to trying to stop a swarm of mosquitos with a chain-link fence. I recall reading a study showing something like a 50% reduction in virons with an N95 (I may be remembering incorrectly). If you are truly worried, you would be better off with a gas mask. Or Hazmat suit.

That Would Be Telling, I think that despite our disagreements about the vaccines themselves, you and I are essentially on the same side here.

I disagree. That Would Be Menstruating is a very fine but fragile organism who has placed her faith in technology to allay her fears of death (probably a materialist/reductionist with no spiritual understanding), while you are a self-involved gasbag. Quite different, in fundamentals at least.

I agree with the rest of your comment.

Erratum: Having batted out 2,000 words posthaste as soon as I saw this thread, it seems that while editing and rewording on the fly, I made only one typographical error that is liable to confuse. In the footnote:

…we may infer that they probably have a logical, scientifically explicable logical mental process which operates much faster, and on much more data, than the ordinary course of conscious thought[.]

Compare and contrast “lightning calculators”, who nigh instantaneously perform complex arithmetical calculations in their heads. (Credit for the analogy goes to Professor Oliver.)

Is NAC still available over the counter?

Yeah, but they won’t do that to fatties or heavy drinkers or etc. etc. will they?

It’s funny how many of us have so many anecdotes, eh? I’m sorry, and I know–it’s not funny at all.

Latest numbers for Israel and UK multiple of India’s per capita covid daily death rate.

Israel has now decreased to 7.9 India’s death rate. Israel 90% vaccinated. India 10% vaccinated.

UK has now decreased to 4.3 India’s death rate. UK 50% vaccinated. India 10% vaccinated.

Israel and UK’s multiples of India’s death rates have decreased slightly due to India having a slight increase in 7 day average of deaths, their 7 day moving averages continued small slow rises.

India’s covid death rate has been mostly falling for the last month. Now 0.35 deaths per million people per day = circa 1.5% of total daily deaths. Wouldn’t even be noticed in normal circumstances. Most Indian states now using Ivermectin. I believe two still not. With Ivermectin there is no pandemic and certainly no “emergency”.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

Now showing the Israel and UK multiples of India to one decimal because due to the low numbers the second decimal was not significant at all(a spurious accuracy) and even one decimal is only just significant(for UK but not Israel).

There’s a new study out that confirms what the unvaxxed have been contending for months – that having had Covid bestows better immunity on you than these gene therapy shots. This may be why there are so many breakthrough infections occurring people who already had both their shots.

Time for an infection party with a side of Ivermectin!
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Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but no infection parties, please
By Meredith Wadman
Aug. 26, 2021 , 8:00 PM

The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label. The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19.

The study demonstrates the power of the human immune system, but infectious disease experts emphasized that this vaccine and others for COVID-19 nonetheless remain highly protective against severe disease and death. And they caution that intentional infection among unvaccinated people would be extremely risky. “What we don’t want people to say is: ‘All right, I should go out and get infected, I should have an infection party.’” says Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University who researches the immune response to SARS-CoV-2 and was not involved in the study. “Because somebody could die.”
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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

Here is a lawsuit recently filed to stop Rutgers University in NJ from enforcing a vaccine mandate. There is a lot of useful information here if you take the time to read through it!

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Rutgers-Complaint.pdf

Hopefully other lawsuits are being filed against employer/employee mandates but it is hard to discover them because the MSM refuses to cover legal challenges to anything Covid.

This is the article they handed out (abbreviated) where the wife worked. Americans themselves are at fault in this case, most American employees are “at will” and have no protection if the boss says DO IT OR LEAVE.

It usually comes down to who you work for. Where I work nobody cares, other places (her) have lots of sick customers and just want the protection. I’ve come to believe the jab is neither deadly nor necessary, making me an agnostic.

Can Employers Make COVID-19 Vaccinations Mandatory?

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/can-employers-make-covid-19-vaccinations-mandatory

This is an interesting article from the BMJ that rips the [at the point it was published] expected FDA Pfizer vax approval to shreds. Clearly, the FDA is on the take.
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Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a Covid-19 vaccine?
August 23, 2021

The FDA should demand adequate, controlled studies with long term follow up, and make data publicly available, before granting full approval to Covid-19 vaccines, says Peter Doshi

On 28 July 2021, Pfizer and BioNTech posted updated results for their ongoing phase 3 Covid-19 vaccine trial. The preprint came almost a year to the day after the historical trial commenced, and nearly four months since the companies announced vaccine efficacy estimates “up to six months.”

But you won’t find 10 month follow-up data here. While the preprint is new, the results it contains aren’t particularly up to date. In fact, the paper is based on the same data cut-off date (13 March 2021) as the 1 April press release, and its topline efficacy result is identical: 91.3% (95% CI 89.0 to 93.2) vaccine efficacy against symptomatic covid-19 through “up to six months of follow-up.”

The 20 page preprint matters because it represents the most detailed public account of the pivotal trial data Pfizer submitted in pursuit of the world’s first “full approval” of a coronavirus vaccine from the Food and Drug Administration. It deserves careful scrutiny.
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https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/08/23/does-the-fda-think-these-data-justify-the-first-full-approval-of-a-covid-19-vaccine/

In re “Erebus”

If you imagine that you can sidestep what you pulled in the other thread by diverting attention at the start of this one, you are lamentably mistaken. Your frivolous insults, which are made as to matters I daresay I understand much better than you do, are simply noise. You are not only a liar, but a liar with the audacity to lie to falsely accuse someone else of lying.

This must be brought forward into this thread; those who are just joining the discussion are encouraged to read the context:

To make this clear, Erebus, I have set the portion that you quoted in italics, and the portion that you omitted in boldface (p. 47):

Over 48 hours, distribution was mainly observed to liver, adrenal glands, spleen and ovaries, with maximum concentrations observed at 8-48 hours post-dose. Total recovery (% of injected dose) of radiolabeled LNP+modRNA outside the injection site was greatest in the liver (up to 21.5%) and was much less in spleen (≤1.1%), adrenal glands (≤0.1%) and ovaries (≤0.1%). The mean concentrations and tissue distribution pattern were broadly similar between the sexes. No evidence of vaccine-related macroscopic or microscopic findings were found in the ovaries in the repeat-dose toxicity studies (Study 38166 and Study 20GR142) and no effects on fertility were identified in the DART study.

Again, you snipped this while you were specifically discussing the ovaries:

…and was much less in… ovaries (≤0.1%). […] No evidence of vaccine-related macroscopic or microscopic findings were found in the ovaries in the repeat-dose toxicity studies (Study 38166 and Study 20GR142) and no effects on fertility were identified in the DART study.

I see a few other potential problems with your argument, but I need not reach them.

C’mon, Erebus. You accuse TWBT of lying because he didn’t bother replying to your cherry-picked misquote? In fluent Internet parlance, WTF!?

Now, Mr. Erebus, I am fair and judicious in my judgments. I don’t jump to conclusions. I initially gave you the benefit of the doubt. You will note that in my initial reply to you, linked above, I did not outright accuse you of lying: I entertained some possibility that your misquote may be a mistake, albeit an egregious one.

Mistakes happen. In the prior thread, I corrected myself in an honestly mistaken misinterpretation of Mr. Unz’s position, which inadvertently helped to feed some of the nonsense being spouted about him here. A few days ago, at a moment when I was decaffeinated, tired, and trying to multitask, I caught myself just in time before replying wrongly to a comment that I had trivially misread. I did catch myself, because I am cautious and not negligent. Nevertheless, I do understand the lability of the human mind.

Despite the seemingly flagrant misquoting, I thought: Mr. Erebus seems reasonable enough. I entertained a small possibility that perhaps, if you are not a scientific expert, you may have gotten lost in the information-dense, jargon-laden technical document thereby under discussion—perhaps so lost that you grabbed onto one sentence, without connecting it to the next three sentences which were very obviously relevant. Whoops!

That mistake would be negligent on your part—not to mention, stupid; and it would be reckless to use your own mistake as the basis for making a serious accusation against someone else. You alleged that That Would Be Telling was “lying bald faced”. At best, you were culpable for recklessness and poor judgment.

Well, that would deserve a little smack—as I delivered—but not Raches-style public annihilation. I hoped that you would take responsibility, admit that you erred, and honorably apologize to Mr. Telling for libelling him with a false accusation. What did Dr. Nietzsche say about hope?

Your subsequent behavior bears out my reasonable suspicion: You saw how neatly I demolished an anti-vaxxer liar. It is reasonable to infer that in the manner of “monkey see, monkey do,” you thought to do the same to the pro-vaxxer here who, besides Mr. Unz, is the most hated on that side of the debate—who is hated because he is usually right about the science. Evidently, you are too stupid to realize that for that to work, you would actually need to catch him lying: You would need to catch him in a statement that was actually false, and have some evidence to impute dishonest motives as I hereby do to you. This does not work: You simply lie, and say that he lied. —Whoops!

You completely ignored my comment calling out your misquote. Instead of owning up to that, you lobbed a bunch of different arguments at Mr. Telling; and you took a moronic side-swipe at me while you contradicted Mr. Unz on another subject, in a completely ridiculous way. Your opening in this thread, whereby you insult my intelligence with the conceit of your own ignorance, only underscores the point.

This adequately proves to me that you committed an intentionally dishonest misquote, not a negligent error—and that your allegation against Mr. Telling was not reckless, but a malicious false accusation.

The mask is off. Your “playing reasonable” act is over. I consign you to Tartarus.

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That Would Be Telling, this pertains to something that you and I have previously somewhat mentioned or discussed.

It has recently come to my attention that there are allegations of an anti-vaxxer—specifically, anti Covid-19 vaccine campaign which, among other things, is alleged to do that “playing reasonable/moderate” thing in a dishonest, calculated, systematic fashion.

I pointedly use the word “alleged”, because I explicitly distrust the source. I don’t yet want to identify publicly what I am examining—sorry, I hope to get to that soon. It is reasonable for me to distrust this source; and I think that you would probably agree with me about that. In parsing it, I rely on my experience examining Defamation League agitprop about “hate groups”: I expect to be reading a calculated mix of lies with some convenient or accidental truths. I read what I see there, I compare what I observe here, and I match up what fits.

When I see a video of an individual with the title “D.O.” tell blatant lies within the first four minutes, it fits generally.

Since I only recently became actively involved here (and occasional passive reading gives quite a different experience), “Erebus” seemed to me to be one of the more reasonable ones. Not that I accredited everything he claimed: He seemed earnest, not utterly moronic, and not completely nuts—not one of the ones spamming high-volume gibberish about Bill Gates and lizard aliens, and also not seemingly one to lash out wildly at people for no reason. (The same as for Mademoiselle Iris.)

Now, when I observe what, within my view of the situation, seems to be a sudden turn of behavior, it matches up with the “playing reasonable, moderate” type of allegation. Compare this from Mr. Erebus, which received a rare¹ Agree Reaction from me: “My view on the matter can be summed as ‘vaccines if necessary, but not necessarily vaccines’.” I wouldn’t put it exactly that way, but I agree with the apparent line of thought.

You can see how besides being odious in itself, for others to play a faux-“reasonable” game is obviously bad for me. Mr. Unz singled me out favorably as being a reasonable one. Point blank—stating this as a rhetorical question that I must work out for myself: How do I establish (or keep) my credibility? How do you or Mr. Unz know that I am not just trying to game you? It is a difficult position.

I think that you are fair, not given to jumping to conclusions, and sufficiently astute to suss things out. For my part, I must be as candid about this as I can be in a public forum.

Even worse for me is the allegation that, among other dishonest tactics, there are duplicitous people trying to spread a message that coincides with mine on certain key points, in a “stopped clock is right twice a day” sense. From far-right politics, I have some experience in dealing with the situation where total liars say something superficially similar to me, and that blows up in my face. It is ugly to handle.

I have also noticed a few other things here that I think would be unwise to state publicly at this point.

Catching up on the end of the prior thread, I saw that you described me as being on a “crusade”—yes. You get it. And unlike you, I am not kind and gentle. No offense. You are a bit of a curmudgeon; but you understand, I am a bit beyond that. Ironically, “anti-vaxx” stuff is one of the few issues where I am not a self-proclaimed radical extremist.

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1. I tend to be quite careful about what I “Agree” with, though I try to keep my pickiness within reason. The other portion of that comment was amenable to me, but obviously not of a nature with which I could “Agree”; what I agreed with was specifically the stated “reasonable, moderate” type of anti-vaxxer position.

If this was an attempt at humour, it fell flat.

Zzzzzzzzzzz…

I guess only Mr. Unz and TWPT reads such long-winded comments with “deep linking” and footnotes.

Or maybe you both really are the same person, or the same bot.

Huh? In all the discussion, never mind posts, no mention of Dr. Robt. Malone

Huh? Ctrl-F “malone” on both topics linked at the top of this page:

• Prior thread: 36 matches.
• Thread before that: 20 matches.

Wherefore the “Troll” reaction: False, easy to check, and smells like a parroted talking point. Some people allege that I can sniff out such things like a hunting dog.

There have been many comments referring to Malone, and several links to the Darkhorse video of Malone with Weinstein. Even utu posted comments about Malone. CTRL-F helps if you’re not on a mobile.

Are you lying or uninformed or demonstrating that you did not read or participate in the conversation? It’s not a good look, either way.

Keep up, friend!

Oh yeah, Ron. Well-played on the MORE edit on my comment. I couldn’t •LOL the comment because you closed the discussion apparently just as I tried to, but it did make me laugh. I appreciate your dark humor.

Convenient placement, though, and I see you have again chosen not to edit one in for the pack. Someone might think I am onto something.

It’s an aggregator technique to collect commentators, not just for creating an ignore list, but also a repository of commentary for further working-over by other parts of the team. The point is to signal and flag —the ostensible purpose in publicly marking it, also the cover for other aspects of metanarrative management.

If That Would Be Telling is accurate in saying they put marked trolls on an Ignore list, then the frequency of the markings for that commentator should go to zero after the first one. I’ve not gone back through to see if this is so, but my recall is that this is not the case, so there’s still some marked trolls who are not ignored on purpose.

Someone with more time might even see if the troll designation occurs at the limit of the maximum allowable rate for making reactions, one versatile aspect of using enforced scarcity to judge how often someone interacts with the conversation and the site.

Just saw this good blog post highlighting Things the establishment got wrong about wuhan-coof by a former physicist and all-around smart guy, thought I’d share. Probably little new for most of you, but a good summary of all the screwups so far.

Maybe Ron will read it and learn something. He’s been extraordinarily dense about this issue so far: I can see why it took him so long to open his eyes to the American Pravda matters, if he can’t even see this slow-motion trainwreck going on in front of his eyes right now.

[I wrote the following in response to Raches comment 1315 on the other thread.]

Either by Design (conspiracy) or by Accident, we human creatures find ourselves in a topsy-turvey world in which “experts” and their subordinates look down real and metaphorical microscope lenses to discover (or determine) those things, both physical and meta-physical, which ail our species.

This microscopic view is then passed forward to those Governmental, Non-Governmental, Corporate, Charitable and Philanthropic Institutions employed to design and apply macro “Policy Solutions” to fix those innate (so the bible says) and therefore incurable, ills, within the bounds of the “Economy Stupid”.

Naturally, none of this Importatant Work comes cheap, therefore those ailing masses coopted to participate in the Economy Stupid, including welfare recipients, single mothers, pick-pockets, drug addicts, entertainers, “educators” and other Useless and not so useless Eaters, must support those employed to serve them in such a manner.

At great cost in terms of their own benediction, Useless Eaters and their children forego Freedom (or A Life Worth Living) whilst appointed Experts peer down microscopes at them to scrutinise the ways in which their behaviour does not serve their best interests.
Funded by Undetected Thefts of worthwhile life experiences. And, of course by in/voluntary taxings on the Populations of Nations, Useless Eaters support their own enslavement.

Raches says:

The Raches solution to this problem is for Western governments to stop all domestic welfare to able-bodied people, and all “foreign aid”—cold turkey. Useless eaters are unable to feed themselves; that is why they are useless eaters. Various curves would be flattened by the same natural forces that always restrict animal populations—including, I note, degenerate “welfare whites”; this is not strictly a racial issue. The only “people” who could object are malicious do-gooders, who want to tax productive people to death to pay for unrestricted breeding of the unproductive.

(My bold)

I thought you said (or at least implied) you were a genius, Raches? Do you seriously imagine that the only people who could object to your genocidal “solution” would be do-gooders? (May I humbly suggest that your thinking may be limited by your understanding of reality, as well as by your personal sociopathic bent.)

Certainly such (limited) thinking seems logical on its face. Pulling the economic rug out from under many millions of people would wipe out great swaths of people very quickly and solve the purported “Population Crisis”.

But at what cost?

And who says there are no alternatives?

I know that I am not alone in offering the following solution. Though I may not be able to reference all of those Lovers of Wisdom who have influenced me over the years.

It´s a generally overlooked fact that the simplest way to end poverty, and coincidentally expunge the entire category of “Useless Eater” is to end wealth.

And the most efficient way to end wealth, it seems to me, is to scrap the Economic Wizardry and the “invisible hand” which holds it all in place, give each and every single living Man, Woman and Child on Planet Earth a fair parcel of arable land, with water source and access to those resources and materials needed to live independently and self-sufficiently.

The idea that a politically induced approval of a medicine by the FDA will give legal immunity to anyone or any organization is an illustration of how out of touch these tyrants have become. Certificates can always be examined for authenticity and approvals can be pierced to look at the underlying facts.

EVERYBODY heard Fauci telling the FDA that it needs to get out a final approval so he can get companies and government agencies to mandate the mRNA shots. It didn’t change the fact that normal testing has never been done. Courts will overturn these mandates as soon as they get out of the gates.

I have also noticed a few other things here that I think would be unwise to state publicly at this point.

Nothing says bull excrement like pages and pages of keystrokes, accentuated by script changes and text emphases. The self-aggrandizing encouragement sprinkled throughout indicates finally that someone needs to go in for a review of his meds.

Covid-19 has always been a disease of the Elderly (95% of deaths globally are over age 60, and the majority of the 4.5 million deaths are in those over age 80. ) Their cases are more serious long-term as well. Those with serious medical conditions (some cancers, organ transplants, etc) are also susceptible relative to the young and healthy. So much of Covid-19 attention has been focused on THE CHILDREN (0-17 year olds in CDC’s reporting); however unlike flu, healthy children are not targeted by Covid-19. Marty Makary reported he could not find a single case of a healthy child dying in the US from Covid.

The massive drop in new cases in the US between mid January and March 1st probably reflected natural immunity, as it occurred before significant vaccination. The same happened in NYC between April and June of 2020, long before vaccines. Recent data from Israel, huge well powered studies, show that natural immunity is 27 times as effective at preventing symptomatic re-infection/ vaccine breakout infection: medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

The vaccinated ones who die (the Vulnerable) are the Elderly and medically compromised, same as in the unvaccinated, but are the only group to really benefit from vaccines (beyond those with Pharma stocks). There really is no reason to vaccinate the young and healthy; unlike natural immunity, vaccine immunity allows continual spread of the virus, so no vaccine herd immunity is possible. Natural immunity seems much longer lasting as well than vaccine immunity. There is need for alternative prophylactic treatments in parallel with vaccinating the Vulnerable, since vaccine protection fades quickly and only covers 90% of the vaccinated at best.

But being America, we are vaccinated those who have no risk from Covid, as well as pets and zoo animals.

Thank you Ron! I was hoping you wouldn’t just snuff out our voices once the last section got deadly slow 😀

Here’s the fun I found recently:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1001354/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj-jt-81tPyAhUJRDABHT9QBr4QFnoECAUQA

It’s a PDF from the NHS, and page 14-15 is the one that is interesting:

For delta confirmed cases, from Feb 1st to Jun 21st:

44/53,822 deaths in unvaccinated – 0.1%ish CFR.

50/7,235 deaths for double vaccinated ones – 0.7%ish CFR.

For the one dose the CFR is in-between.

Now the data is problematic because it is not well differentiated by age, but most of the data is for >50 year olds.

(There is a very insignificant 2/13k vaxx deaths, compared to 6 for ~54k unvaxxed under 50s, but that’s not enough data)

So, for the overwhelmingly over 50s data, it shows the vaccinated dying far more from “delta”, than the unvaxxed.

Now of course there is issue with definitions: is the “28 days after PCR test” still a thing? (Cause 80-90 year olds tend to die within 28 days of any anchor day more than 30 year olds!).

But why would a UK government body, that has consistently moved goal posts to one side, now reverse gear, and move the posts to the other side?

Stock up on aspirin, Quercetin and/or HCQ and/or ivermectin Ron, and drop them like heroin when your temperature spikes above 37C!

3. The Johnson and Johnson 1-shot really is the easiest on your system. If you must, that’s the one. No one I know had any serious reactions to it.

If true, and note it’s the only vaccine with an Official very rare but sometimes fatal adverse effect (probably less so after it was discovered), your perception of a good side effect profile is likely due to it being only one jab, one “primary” dose, no boost doses.

J&J’s Janssen unit went to a lot of effort to try to create the most effective one jab vaccine and did a good job of it, but you will get significantly better immunity from either of the two mRNA vaccines with their prime dose followed by a boost dose, that’s pretty much baked into the pie. And that’s mattering more now that the Delta variant with its immune escape mutations has become the dominant strain, for all these vaccines all efficacy endpoints drop by significant on an absolute scale number of percentage points, they’re immunizing against classic Wuhan.

I’ve seen credible reports of Moderna inducing “Covid arm” (search on that) which is a poison ivy type allergic reaction, obnoxious but not really a big deal. Hives that need “a round of steroids” sounds credible and worse, but is that a truly “serious” side effect? I may be jaded about that sort of thing based on my family’s various allergy issues, especially my father who long before I was born has bad reactions to poison ivy, something I managed to get sensitized to a few years ago. Note that the first increment of steroids for a bad case of poison ivy might be a dose so physically big it must be injected into your behind, not fun but they’re wonder drugs.

Longwinded speech is exhausting.

Better to stay centered.

Lao Tzu,

https://terebess.hu/english/tao/addiss.html

You are not only a liar, but a liar with the audacity to lie to falsely accuse someone else of lying.

You’re off your meds.

Here’s what you said:

C’mon, Erebus. You accuse TWBT of lying because he didn’t bother replying to your cherry-picked misquote? In fluent Internet parlance, WTF!?

In the first place I do not recall accusing TWBT of lying in regards to post injection distribution of the “organized payload including mRNA”. S/He made a statement that the “payload” didn’t leave the injection site, while the paper s/he cited said that the payload did in fact migrate to a variety of places. What the payload did after migrating may be medically interesting, but it certainly isn’t logically material.

There was no “misquote”. I knew exactly what I was doing. The logic is a simple Either/Or – either there was migration or there wasn’t. The paper says there was. I don’t see how that can be inflated to the size you seem to think it can be, or what your point might be in doing so.

Where I accused TWBT of lying is on the very point s/he initially accused me, namely the matter of “real testing”. Here is TWBT:

And here you continue your false premise (re: payload migration), but then straight up lie about “if any real testing had been done.”

For my part, I conceded that my use of the word “real” was ill advised, and I so said when I suggested that it be replaced by “inadequate”.

My defence (and return charge) was based on 4 quotes from TWBT’s cited paper, none of which were truncated in any salient way. All the quotes referred to tests that had not been done. As a professional, s/he would be fully aware that they were omitted in violation of protocol, and that therefore the testing was at best, inadequate in the professional sense (or “not real” in the vernacular).

S/He asked if I’d read the paper. Unfortunately for her/him, I had and my reading underlay my statement that “no real testing” had been done. The parts I quoted from the paper were precisely intended to parry (and return) the charge, and I continue to believe that they did. What do you think? Do they, or do they not?

The net of all that is that TWBT issued an accusation of bald facing lying against me in the full knowledge of what the paper said regarding the inadequacy of the testing. Neither TWBT’s nor my charges had anything to do with the migration of NLPs or “organized payload”, though (parenthetically) I believe s/he was lying about that as well.

As for the FDA, my point was that the lack of testing was a cross-border affair. S/He was an intercontinental liar, as it were.

It’s all quite simple, really, so I don’t understand why your hair caught fire.

How do I establish (or keep) my credibility? How do you or Mr. Unz know that I am not just trying to game you?

Your worries are misplaced. I for one had pretty much pegged you a long time ago.

“You’re an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.” … and a (tiresome) poser.

Some people have said that if you’re being forced vaccinated by your employer, you should only agree to sign the waiver if your company agrees, in writing, to assume all liability if you suffer a negative reaction.

Ugh, yes, the CDC. Didn’t it just have to walk back it’s ‘record daily infections’ in FL screeching after it was found to have lumped multiple days of infections into one? The FL department of health had to publicly admonish them before the CDC revised the numbers.

That’s what NIH scientists were reporting back before vaccines were widely available, that they found antibodies and sars2 specific T- and B-cells in the previously infected and that they were optimistic that the vaccines would confer similar protection.

Now, That Would Be Telling, we know that at best, the vaccines are not delivering on the high hopes with which they were announced.

And you or I should care about this why? Seriously, aside from tickling your intuition, the people who don’t understand simple math, let alone science are not people worth paying attention to, pro or con. Ditto pathological liars like Saint Fauci.

Vaccines that were promised to be the safest ever, are turning out to be some of the riskier ones.

I suppose this is a debatable point, but I don’t believe this to be true at all. Are you applying actuarial science to your analysis? I’ll repeat the general take on that:

Bob Wachter of UCSF had a very good thread on Twitter about vaccine rollouts the other day, and one of the good points he made was this one. We’re talking about treating very, very large populations, which means that you’re going to see the usual run of mortality and morbidity that you see across large samples.

Specifically, if you take 10 million people and just wave your hand back and forth over their upper arms, in the next two months you would expect to see about 4,000 heart attacks. About 4,000 strokes. Over 9,000 new diagnoses of cancer. And about 14,000 of that ten million will die, out of usual all-causes mortality. No one would notice. That’s how many people die and get sick anyway.

And note people are paying attention to these vaccines more than all others combined since let’s assume the advent of polio vaccines in the 1950s and ’60s.

That said, I do guess two doses of an “active” vaccine will be more dangerous than one dose of the standard US “passive” flu vaccine. In all cases these have no overt adjuvants, unlike say TDaP vaccines, which are also passive. Active means they’re like the very first vaccine and many childhood ones, they are all means to the end of getting some mRNA to produce proteins inside cells, most closely mimicking a virus infection.

Passive vaccines expose the body to relevant virus proteins or for TDaP “toxoid” analogs of bacterial toxins and the adaptive immune systems respond differently, especially initially (and until an EUA or Biologics License application is made for one of them, won’t be researching that). Given that COVID is for the foreseeable future in a pandemic state in the US and much of the West, I think that perceived by myself additional risk is more than acceptable.

Plus no one has yet succeeded with a protein (+ adjuvant) vaccine. Looking here with a cutoff of > two emergency authorizations, the only passive vaccines you might consider to be far enough along are inactivated whole virus ones, and that doesn’t count the only Western one I know of, a U.K. funded French company which is only trying it on ~5,000 subjects in its first Phase III trial, which isn’t big enough to accomplish anything but getting more money for a big enough Phase III to satisfy pretty much anyone including I think India (Bharat Biotech’s Covaxin Phase III trial is nearly FDA strength in subjects, and there’s reasons the rest of the world trusts India a lot more than the PRC for finished drug products, which I assume extends to biologics; that they even have the concept of “doing the needful” speaks volumes).

Vaccines that were widely expected to eradicate Covid obviously aren’t doing so, and won’t do so anytime soon. Efficacy is bad.

Here I strongly disagree, although you should quantitatively define “bad.” No one credible is going to claim these vaccines built to counter classic Wuhan are going to in theory or practice be as effective with Delta, but for example, for what I personally consider for myself to be the most important endpoint of avoiding serious morbidity, I’m unaware of any claims that the mRNA vaccines and Sputnik V drop below 93% efficacy in avoiding hospitalization.

People being people, and our ruling trash simply not bothering to do any really effective Maximum Efforts aimed at them except vaccination, that’s not going to capture all serious morbidity plus mortality. For example we should by now all have access to a pulse oximeter if we come down with COVID and watch that like a hawk so we can get supplemental oxygen before its weird “happy hypoxia” symptom does too much general damage to our organs. That’s where you get blood oxygen deficient, but as I understand it it’s not the usual blockage of gas exchange, the CO2 that drives the breathing reflex is getting out of your system with no problems. On the other hand, I’ll bet that symptom doesn’t have a great prognosis….

But I’ll repeat, people are people, and will do extremely stupid things like fail to seek treatment at all until their wife is dying and they’re too weak to move the wife off the bed and give her CPR. Can any of us make a case that there’s a better approach to such people than vaccinating them??

“New data” are not an excuse … The development of variants is not an excuse.

Here I think we’re getting to the gravamen of your issue. You are lumping the establishment which includes stupid factions that claimed vaccines would be a silver bullet with true experts who’ve said from the very beginning that our initial vaccines were not expected to suffice for the long term, novel pathogen is novel. If my understanding is correct, you’re in the general direction of people who are unable to discern that our “ruling trash” and outer circle of that have factions, and some can be out to lunch while others do their thing competently. Your real complaint other than side effect profiles, what’s driving your intuition, has absolutely nothing to do with vaccines based on classic Wuhan showing less efficacy against Delta. Afraid I can’t help you with that.

Regulatory capture, anyone? The FDA is on the take. It just approved an Alzheimer’s drug over the recommendation of its own expert panel, a prescription that is going to cost 10s of thousands of dollars per patient per year, largely through Medicare. It is fucking criminal.

How do you or Mr. Unz know that I am not just trying to game you?

Well, you might avoid getting into arguments about which of us are more “not kind and gentle.” 🙂

Seriously, the only thing I’d ask of you is to cut down your first drafts by 1/3 to 1/2 in words. You are not in any way I can discern trying to game us, you’re just bringing a substantially different mental toolbox than myself to this “game” and we should not be surprised we come to different conclusions.

For example, I’ve never studied the topic of propaganda seriously, let along Goebbels (for Nazi leaders I’ve limited myself so far to Hitler’s failings strictly on military terms, which is just part of my study of things military going back to the 1970s). And in general I’ve given up on the anti-vaxxers aside from you, your sort of crusade is not my forte besides pointing out where they’re lying, and as you’ve demonstrated (again) that’s worthless against the likes of Mr. Erebus, who at best is on his own crusade to save us from “injecting poison” into our bodies.

From your description, he’s got liver issues. Pretty common among vets. Drinking, drugs, hepatitis, chemical exposure are all common causes and it sounds like he may have issues with all of these. Although I agree with your vaccine scepticism, this is all probably related to other easily identifiable causes.

You can find it on eBay, easily.

What is the test for Delta variant?

There have been many comments referring to Malone…. Even utu posted comments about Malone.

As have I: he did an excellent RNA into cells proof of concept experiment in the 1980s, but I’d be much more interested in hearing from those who four decades later claim through a great deal of hard work to have perfected this technology in its first generation.

Now, Malone kept his hand in this field to a minimal degree for a while, but I would say clearly not as of 2020, for his constructive responses to COVID are investigating the repurposing of small molecule drugs against it, that class includes HQC and ivermectin. If he was still a significant figure in the RNA field you’d expect him to be playing a role in one of the companies attempting it, unless his claim is that this line of work has conclusively been shown not to work in theory as well as practice. Against which we now have too much evidence to the contrary.

Note whatever he’s saying about spike proteins is not limited to mRNA vaccines, almost all the leading Western vaccines or well along attempts focus on that for good reasons, and most of those with stabilized versions of it. For that matter, in theory the mRNA vaccines should produce less of them than the adenovirus vector vaccines. The former have a strictly limited number they can get cells to produce, the latter are non-replicating viruses and as far as I know have no limit except cell death through one or more means.

Filing masses of lawsuits will also deplete these organizations of \$\$\$, so if they are constantly in court and paying for their defense, eventually they will see the writing on the wall and cease and desist on their unethical behavior.

Keep the lawsuits coming folks.

This blurb from Ron on the previous thread:

By strictly rationing the use of Reactions on these threads and also identifying the particular commenter, I feel they tend to carry much more weight and therefore become useful as marks of distinction.

That’s hilarious, Ron. I seem to remember you using your real name to agree and reply to two of my outstanding comments last year. Then you practically shut down your website for 48 hours so you could remove your name from the reaction, and change the name on your reply, from Ron Unz to Hillbob. Oops!

Rules for we but not for thee?

Just saw this good blog post highlighting Things the establishment got wrong about wuhan-coof by a former physicist and all-around smart guy, thought I’d share.

Urgh. No, just no. He’s not sufficiently familiarized himself with the field, and here I point out two examples I personally studied and learned about after COVID-19 started roaming the earth:

Delta as transmissible as Chicken Pox…. Chicken Pox has a reproduction number R0 of 10 or 12. Right now, the delta variant is dominant in the US, and the reproduction number R0 is below 2 in every state.

Here he shows he doesn’t understand what R0 is, it’s a measure pertaining to immunologically naive subjects. That very much does not describe a population with a great deal of natural and vaccine immunity! In his “Could be wrong can’t tell yet” section:

Vaccinations efficacy. Most people think of various kinds of ronavax as a sterilizing vaccination the way polio vaccines are;

Here he really steps off in the deep end, polio vaccines are (well for me) a paradigmatic and currently very important example of sterilizing vs. leaky vaccines, respectively Sabin type oral vs. Salk type injected, each having their place, each having their tradeoffs in the currently going in reverse attempt to eradicate the disease from the earth. This guy doesn’t know his limitations and should be ignored.

If you do ever give propaganda a proper gander (oh, I make myself chortle), start with the master, not the student!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Bernays_Propaganda_in_english_.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj37faR-dPyAhVWRUEAHSHKCuoQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw15teDEO1X0HEH82pdiCfvc

Edward Bernays, Propaganda, 1928 (a .pdf copy)

According to official lore, some samples that test positive for COVID via PCR are then genetically sequenced to determine the variant.

CDC issued some interesting rules here. In addition to not tracking mild cases among the vaccinated at all, they updated their rules for Delta sequencing, saying that IF the patient was already vaccinated, the CDC would not accept positive samples unless the PCR test was run at 28 cycles or less. Meanwhile they would continue to sequence samples from unvaccinated people at up to 40 PCR cycles.

The rule is a bit twisted, but the effect is straightforward. If you are a healthcare provider, why test any vaccinated person at more than 28 cycles, if you know any positive test results at that level will NOT be sequenced for Delta? The CDC has contrived a double standard that makes the vaccines seem statistically effective. It effectively lowers the positivity rate among vaccinated people and helps keep vaccinated people out of the “Delta” column.

This video just in demonstrates the high rate of Covid vaccine injury in Australia (far higher than is being officially reported).

It comes courtesy of a whistleblower nurse – channelled through her daughter (8 mins):

Check it out soon before it’s taken down (it’s on You Tube so not likely to be up for long).

For non-Australian viewers, the TGA = Therapeutic Goods Administration (the Australian equivalent of the FDA).

The person doing the press conference on the right is the Premier of NSW (our largest state) followed by the Chief Health Officer – both of whom are in the pocket of the worldwide cabal that orchestrated the Covid psyop.

What is the test for Delta variant?

The usual, with the usual ways of using them:

RT-PCR tests look for 2-3 bits of unique RNA in the virus target. Whole genome sequencing, look at world leader U.K. for probably the most accessible example of this, they’re justifiably proud and useful as a transportation nexus, captures the entire RNA sequence of a sample virus. Which can tell us a lot more about this slow for RNA viruses mutating virus family which has a unique proofreading mechanism. Like being able to trace A gave B who gave C the virus based on mostly harmless to the virus and us mutations, this is how we build lineage trees.

What you may not be aware of is that while RNA is fragile, enough bits of it survive in raw sewage for them to be a very useful epidemiological tracking tool. Thus once we had Alpha and then Delta specific RT-PCR tests, and those don’t have to be automated (although they may be) since you don’t have to test a lot of sewage samples per day, we could compare prevalence of classic vs. Alpha, and now Alpha vs. Delta.

Variant specific epidemiological testing, initially whole genome, is I’m pretty sure our first clue that a variant of interest should be elevated to variant of concern. And then however you want to label the increasingly transmissible dominant variants Alpha replacing classic Wuhan, followed by Delta replacing Alpha.

NEWSWEEK:

A mother in Chicago has criticized a judge who she says stripped her of visitation rights because she was not vaccinated against COVID-19.

In what could be the first case of its kind, a judge at Cook County’s Daily Center said Rebecca Firlit cannot see her 11-year-old son until she has received the shot, reported FOX News 32.

During the hearing, Cook County Judge James Shapiro reportedly asked Firlit whether she had been vaccinated yet. She said she told the judge she hadn’t because she has suffered bad reactions from other vaccines she had in the past.

In an unprecedented move, Shapiro then ordered Firlit be stripped of all parenting time with her son until she gets vaccinated, said the report.

If enough people keep filing lawsuits against those they can file against, such as employers and individuals, then it is more likely they will cease and desist as the Legal costs will become too much.

According to official lore,

Official lore — is that the same as scuttlebutt?

sorry — I should look for the CDC rule for myself, right?

Helpful folks in charge of the algorithm gave this top billing:

Is there a test for the delta variant?

There is not a specific test for the delta variant.

However, since the vast majority of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. are the delta variant,* it’s likely a positive test result indicates you could be infected with the delta variant, according to Human and Health Services of Texas.

Mapping CDC’s new guidelines:High transmission areas where you need to wear a mask indoors

Mapping appears to be the key word: The state of Tennessee reports that, based on information from the Texas state office in charge of health thingies, GET A VACCINE!! Any Vaccine!

And btw, Texas health bureaucrats pass along CDC (state of Georgia) commands: WEAR A MASK.

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* just a quibble from a non-Jewish (therefore low-IQ) deplorable: if there’s no test, i.e. no way to know with scientific certainty, the Delta variant, how can you say “vast majority of COVID 19 cases” are delta variant?

First I’d note you’ll get a lot further if you attack what I say, not myself. Of course, if someone can’t do the former, perhaps they should defer to those who can instead of spinning fantasies about who and what I might be??

If That Would Be Telling is accurate in saying they put marked trolls on an Ignore list

An issue here is that undoubtedly for performance reasons our host made this list of highly finite size, and definitely not hardly big enough to account for all “Trolls.” And I mostly cleared that list a week or so ago except for the names which I remembered well enough to keep them in it. But it’s of course getting repopulated, and as I’ve decreased the scope of what I follow and reply to, some people are going straight to it. Or perhaps back to it, I didn’t make a copy of the whole list before paring it down.

“Troll” BTW isn’t always exactly why I label them as such, ultimately it means they have demonstrated in “debating” with me that they’re no longer worth paying attention to, anything from being idiots to the bad faith Raches has been demonstrating about just one paradigmatic anti-vaxx commentator.

Again, why the push to inoculate those who are relatively immune from dying of the disease?

That’s just management covering its own ass. They bought and paid for all those vaccines. They better get used up before the expiry date or someone is going to eat up those costs on their department budget sheet.

It’s just a system trying to fulfil its estimated quota no matter how or what numbers come on. The layers of documentation for management are there to shield incompetence from any real corrective action (from admin to clinical). You can’t punish someone following protocol.

Look at Canada, a nation that bought the most vaccines and has one of the highest vaccinated population. It’s still pissing it’s pants about a vaccine passport.

I wonder if it will include vaccines from the past when I was a child, when I was employed in a hospital, when I travelled to places that don’t know Jesus…. Or is it just a covid-exclusive passport.

An STD passport would have been better. Would be awesome to know who has HIV. But I guess that’s not a deadly virus anymore.

The laws, if any, allowing mandates are unconstitutional. The individual is not supposed to have to sue to uphold a Constitutional right, in this case, the right to freedom in one’s person. But it appears that they will have to. Most people do not have the resources, so must rely on finding an organization that will agree to take the case. And if you get fired from one job for refusing to accept the vax, and then find another that takes you, you might be deemed a moot case. Lawsuits are a last resort, not a ready answer.

The CDC has kept the notoriously inaccurate PCR test in place until January. All ‘cases’ ‘identified’ by its use are completely meaningless. Doesn’t matter what variant.

once we had Alpha and then Delta specific RT-PCR tests

Help a brother out, and cite a source describing a Delta specific PCR test.

They are covid exclusive passports, and if you do not keep up with every ‘booster’ they decree, you will lose your fully vaxxed status. They moved up the timeline for this booster because they have millions of doses that are going to expire. They can’t give it away to the refuseniks, so they want those who were already dumb enough, to line up for another.
This is about social control and oppression of the proles, and fat pharma profits. The WEF Great Reset, the NWO, it is not about a virus. We now have more people dying of drug overdoses in some jurisdictions, than covid. They give fraudulent PCR tests to everyone, which produce 90% false positives, and then do not give a flu test. Any wonder why flu ‘disappeared’ from the health stats?
Don’t let me get started on Fauci and HIV, and his use of AZT, whose side effects perfectly mimic what is supposed to be a ‘case’ of HIV.

Help a brother out, and cite a source describing a Delta specific PCR test.

I guess it’s too much to except you to try your favorite search engine first? This is the top results I got from Bing. I will admit this search is a lot more difficult than normal because of Delta Airlines, which is very displeased by the WHO’s system for naming variants.

But note what I said about public health sewage surveillance testing, you don’t need a formal, FDA EUA or whatever approved test to do that, you just need a bit of I’m told grad student level design work to find unique regions and once that’s done everyone can take advantage of it, and a lab tech to do a small number of manual tests every day or whatever your sampling period is, doesn’t really need to be every day come to think of it.

Simeon Boikov (aka Aussie Cossack), is a great patriot and is at the forefront of a movement to overthrow the Covid tyranny in Australia.

I posted a video of his in UR last week and he seems to be getting some international attention.
Here he is being interviewed by Alex Jones at InfoWars (4 mins):

Simeon is a born and bred Aussie but is proud of his Russian Cossack heritage – hence the Cossack handle.

This guy has political aspirations – he’s gunning for the top job (Prime Minister) one day down the track (he’s said so himself).
Bookmark this bloke’s name, because he’s going places.

Resentment to the Covid fraud is on ‘High simmer’ here in Australia and the Aussie Cossack (and others like him), are leading the charge.
A massive blockade of truckers is planned in the coming days.

Watch this space – things are going to escalate downunder. I’ll keep you posted.

The situation is continuing to evolve so the debate should likewise evolve.

Ivermectin seems to be coming on strong as both a treatment and a prophylactic. While some on the American left snark about horse medicine, Japan has issued a call to treat covid with Ivermectin. Because of regulatory capture, the FDA refuses authorize Ivermectin for emergency use, even though doctors worldwide are demanding it.

Ivermectin has maybe 40 years of safety studies behind it, and at the appropriate doses is about as safe as drugs get, yet the FDA refuses to approve it for emergency use. The story seems to be that it was invented by a Japanese doctor who didn’t want it patented. He wanted it to be cheap for public use, especially among the poor. There it is. No money in it, so it doesn’t get authorized.

Japan has also found metallic contamination of the Moderna vaccine with some of it being magnetic. we now have to revisit those videos of people putting magnets on their arms.

The FDA is also pulling a bait and switch with the vaccine authorizations. Even more disturbing, other countries look to the U.S. FDA for guidance on drugs so they too have Ivermectin only for parasites and restrict its use for covid. In this way, the FDA has spread its corruption to other countries.

As I understand it, the Pfizer drug that is authorized is not available, and the the drug that is available is not authorized.

Given this odd behavior by the FDA, I’m going to take a wait and see approach.

Here he shows he doesn’t understand what R0 is, it’s a measure pertaining to immunologically naive subjects. That very much does not describe a population with a great deal of natural and vaccine immunity!

Perhaps he’s making that mistake, but R0 is a naive statistical average that is prone to all kinds of mismeasurement, so the measure itself hardly matters.

polio vaccines are (well for me) a paradigmatic and currently very important example of sterilizing vs. leaky vaccines, respectively Sabin type oral vs. Salk type injected, each having their place, each having their tradeoffs

This is a debate only going on in your head: he simply mentioned that the word “vaccine” implies something like “sterilizing” to most people, which these Covid injections assuredly aren’t.

the currently going in reverse attempt to eradicate the disease from the earth. This guy doesn’t know his limitations and should be ignored.

As he points out, “Barring huge breakthroughs SARS‑CoV‑2 will be with us forever. It will be with us for so long, eventually it will no longer be called SARS-Cov-2; it will have some other more innocuous name like HCoV-NL63 does. It will eventually just be another respiratory virus of no particular distinction. No lung borne ailment, let alone a viral one, has ever been eliminated by humanity.”

Sounds like you are the one who doesn’t know what you’re talking about and should be ignored.

Nice, so is the Delta specific PCR used in the United States at all?

Well Ron, comments on the article with your reply to me were actually hidden for more than 48 hours while you scrambled to fix the issue. Additionally your fix seemed to have ramifications for the commenting system sitewide. One commenter complained about it on an open thread, and you claimed it was due to a server migration or some such BS.

Furthermore, the comment that you “Agreed” with (when I said Ilana Mercer is too smart not to know the meaning of her own religion) was NOT changed to Hillbob; your name was simply removed from the comment. Only your reply (praising my debate with Talha regarding panentheism) was changed to Hillbob.

How many sock puppets do you operate here?

Everybody has issues. The question is that these issues explode after getting an RNA shot or a clot shot, and people who kept their shit under control their whole life suddenly experience a sharp worsening, and “the science” comes over and says yeah no, that’s just a cohencidence.

It’s not the vaccines that are crap you see, it’s the human material that’s crap, and anyway correlation is not causation, etc. Amplifying sharply people’s health issues is just all an incredible coincidence.

Day of the noose on the horizon.

Japan has issued a call to treat covid with Ivermectin

Dr. Haruo Ozaki (Chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association)

https://www.techarp.com/science/japan-ivermectin-covid-19/
On 13 August 2021, he stated that “It is necessary to thoroughly study the clinical trials, but it seems that we are at the stage where it is okay to have the patient give an informed consent, and get permission to use it“.

but the Japanese Health Ministry did not approve ivermectin for use against COVID-19.

I think you might not fully grasp the term ‘adjuvant’ as applied to vaccines. It is any substance added to evoke a stronger immune response, such as aluminum-based adjuvants. As such, the immune system is responding to a chemical that is in proximity to whatever viral particles or attenuated virus the shot is to actually to protect against, and in theory, this is supposed to evoke a stronger reaction to the virus on subsequent exposure. Old shots stay in the arm muscle, mRNA do not, they travel throughout the body, and since they are directly cytotoxic, wreak havoc in people’s organs. People who would probably have been completely fine with the infection. Like teen boys who end up with permanently damaged hearts. The mRNA spike has a particular affinity for ovaries, and crosses the blood-brain barrier.
In regards your assertion that the vax is eradicating the virus: the vax is what drives the creation of new variants that evade the vax, that is the natural evolutionary activity of the virus. These vaccines are NOT sterilizing vaccines, like the ones for polio or diptheria, that fully prevent infection. This is why some eminent research doctors have said it is unconscionable to give these leaky vaccines that do not prevent infection or transmission, during an epidemic. During the raging Delta epidemic in India, they paused use of the vax, and gave everyone ivermectin as prophylaxis and treatment. Their cases, hospitalizations and deaths plummeted. That is what we should do, is to pause the vaccination program, with the possible exception of the elderly, as Sweden did. These vax are driving much higher rates of poor outcomes for children and young people, than outcomes with the infection. And give everyone ivermectin, a Nobel prize winning medication that eradicated two endemic HUMAN viruses.
Covid is treatable with the proper protocols. The vax has now damaged more than the number who died of the infection. And I am not talking of a little rash or headache. People have permanently damaged hearts, lungs, brains, kidneys and eyes; many are permanently disabled. All highly vascularized tissues that are easily damaged by microscopic blood clots that do not show up on imaging. This is still a 99%+ survivable virus, and a treated natural infection will result in a full-spectrum lifetime immunity. The original SARS 17 years ago has survivors who are still followed, and their immune antibodies are still showing a robust reaction to that virus. It is unconscionable that Fauci is telling people with natural immunity to take the vax, which destroys their natural antibodies and convalescent plasma.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/

Mr. Unz, your accuser chooses to call himself “gay troll”. Call me a bigot, but I take that as a hint about the cheery Mr. Troll’s veracity and intentions.

You marked me as a Troll before, I believe, so I thought you had me on Ignore, too. Now reading that you’ve cleared your list to start over, I wonder: didn’t you say you were leaving? Why clear the list to start over by coming back to start again? Like I said, you’ve hit the point of marginal utility. You know you’re wasting your time. We know you’re wasting your time. Go outside, enjoy the sunshine, smell some echinacea blossoms, have some dandelion tea. You will have peace in your heart, when you want it. You do not have to give in to the dopamine addiction.

So, I don’t find your advice about how far I’ll go to be worth much when it’s clear that you don’t follow your own advice or hold yourself to it. I follow the Divine in my heart, just as you follow the path the Divine has set for you.

Personally, I’ve never sat down and watched any video featuring Malone. I rather spend my own time and free Internet access to scour journal articles, compiling as much as time allows, as this twice-buried list of articles demonstrates.

But, sure, anything, from vaxxine to virus, that creates Spike will have the inherent problems associated with Spike. And, as I’ve mentioned before a few times, while people focus on Spike and ACE2, we should also have concerns about Spike and neuropilin-1, as well as Fc receptors given their role in the cytokine storm. Encouraging people to produce such a fascinating protein within their own bodies, fully knowing how versatile and multi-modal the protein is when it comes to interacting with various systems of the human body, is a sick and sociopathic way of approaching healing. At what “dose” is this protein not a poison, That Would?

It’s almost as though people just don’t want to live anymore.

When Spike breaks off —after encouragement from our helpful antibody buds— and leaves behind all those little furry knobs throughout the capillaries, the neurons, the muscles, the lymphatic vessels, what do you think happens to them? Do you think they are safely integrated into the whole of the individual, or do you think they are further attacked by our immune systems, punching holes in all those surfaces throughout the body? I’m sure you have a ready-made explanation for this, but then, I wouldn’t want to enable your addiction when you’ve expressed a desire to go sober and leave . . .

Some doctors who are critical of the vaccine program or have raised comments about adverse events have said they are not necessarily against an emergency use experimental vaccination being rolled out for the vulnerable. I find that position reasonable. But then that doesn’t mean everyone needs the vaccine, especially people at low or zero risk, or where the risks from the vaccine outweigh risks from covid.

I haven’t followed every snippet of new data, but a couple of weeks back Dr Malone estimated (I think based on limited data) around a 50% reduction in transmission (which he may have revised since) with the vaccine (presumably time dependent). But then if the vulnerable are vaccinated anyway ought that mandate the non-vulnerable are vaccinated to achieve a theoretical 50% reduction in overall transmission ?

This ignores some important issues: natural immunity which may be very high and almost certainly more thorough and permanent than vaccines, that truly asymptomatic transmission is almost certainly a myth as Michael Yeadon says), and that the vaccine is very likely to spawn new variants as a result of the vaccines, continuing the problem.

At best the benefits of a mass vaccine (as opposed to targeted on the vulnerable) rollout are a logistics/resources case for health systems, not a personal health question, and indeed it could be said this is a not bad goal in itself but it is based on the premise of a vaccine-centric solution with no alternatives. Yet a number of doctors and scientists strongly claim there are effective alternatives. It also means a lifetime of yearly or twice yearly boosters or new vaccines chasing new variants.

But Dr Malone also recently said, based on CDC info, even if you vaccinate 100% and mask 100% the spread of delta cannot be stopped. More so, it seems respiratory corona viruses are not something that can be ‘vaccinated away’ like that anyway. This means a policy of ‘zero covid’ is clearly not actually on the table and never has been. It also means that those scientists (and we are told to trust the science) know that the policy of a vaccine mandate will never eliminate covid, rather it provides a new, unsolvable and very lucrative demon to endlessly chase, much like ‘systemic racism’ or diversity industry.

To me it feels like a policy has been decided on by a committee of government officials, global bodies, drug companies – who critics suggest have corrupted the very institutions intended to keep them honest, and their fact checkers. They have created an inorganic and instant ‘scientific consensus’ about the vaccine that just happens to suit the goals of members of that committee.

There is a scramble based on hysteria, utopianism and profits and the desire to impose political will for the sake of imposing political will and implement and extend as much of the policy as possible whether it’s right or wrong simply because it’s the one on the table.

The whole thing reminds me of the ramp up in government powers and the security-industrial-complex after 9/11. We also saw increased public compliance to ‘fight terrorism’. This has all the same signs of state/elite overreach and hysteria of an ‘invisible enemy’, that ‘could strike at any moment’.

But in the end we will hand power back to nature just as we have handed power back to the Taliban. We might as well accept defeat in the ‘War on Covid’ earlier than later at least in how it’s being fought rather than endure more years of incursions.

You’re just mad because he took your name. I get it. I’ve never forgiven Coolio, for the same reason.

A good friend of mine wrote the following, and I thought others might find it helpful for their own thinking and their own action . . .

Statement of conscientious objection to mandated Covid-19 vaccination. . . .

“It is only possible to love and to be just if one knows the empire of force and if one knows not to respect it.” —Simone Weil, The Iliad, or the Poem of Force

Setting aside:

• All questions pertaining to the safety and efficacy of available vaccines against SARS-CoV-2.

• All questions pertaining particularly to the safety and efficacy of mRNA technology as a vehicle of immunization against infectious diseases.

• All questions pertaining to the safety and efficacy of efforts to vaccinate a mobile population of tens or hundreds of millions, or indeed billions, against a coronavirus during an ongoing pandemic and by means of inoptimal vaccines.

• All questions pertaining to the alleged suppression, in favor of vaccination, of effective early and prophylactic treatment options for Covid-19.

Acknowledging:

• That vaccinated individuals continue to contract severe Covid-19 and to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to vaccinated and non-vaccinated others at rates of transmission comparable to that observed in non-vaccinated individuals.

Acknowledging further:

• The desecration of medicine by the use of (a) cash bribery and other enticements and (b) the threat of effective denaturalization to obtain consent to vaccination from individuals who were anticipated not to consent to vaccination in the absence of such coercion. Moreover, that this coercive consent was obtained in view of no less than one year of what has been termed global psychic trauma. If civic and medical authorities have irresponsibly insinuated that those who do not vaccinate ought to be socially persecuted—whether or not legally prosecuted—as murderers, we observe that, according to this reasoning, those medical institutions and individual physicians that did not expressly dissent and have not expressly disavowed these gross transgressions of medical and scientific ethics by public and private institutions alike are likewise complicit in the total destitution of faith in the integrity of medicine, the legitimacy of government by expertise, the allegiance of law to principle, and the very notion of civic trust.

Setting aside finally:

• All interest in survival for the sake of survival.

I have chosen not to vaccinate because it is my free and firm conviction that statistical duplicity, opportunistic ploys on emotional, intellectual, and spiritual turmoil, and recursive counsel of general terror, despair, scorn, and wrath have unequivocally failed to certify those authorities whom I might have trusted to speak soberly and in good faith. It is evident that those who do not vaccinate are to be identified as a new Unclean. A disquieting appetite for exactly such an escalation is noted in the public discourse of the highest offices. That here we are being tempted to accept and adopt a cathectic discrimination on the basis of personal preferences and fears, and not scientific consensus, is confirmed by the fact that in the scientific domain, investigation and debate continue as to the efficacy, procedurally reported adverse events, long-term effects, and merit of existing vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 over and against any and every alternative protocol.

I am a Christian. If I would answer faithfully to my Lord who anointed the sick with the breath of his mouth and who held the faces of lepers, I must, at bare minimum, not drink from the cup that has caused my soul to recoil.

I am further convicted in my refusal to vaccinate by the spectacle of what I can but describe as a great forgetting. Indviduals who believed themselves opponents of totalitarianism and immune to a totalitarian impulse today desire, whether or not it will be obtained, that the Federal Government of the United States institute an internal passport regime on the basis of vaccination status. Whether by the force or the affirmative counsel of Federal authority, should such come to pass in this country as it has in other liberal democracies, we shall mark the date as that on which citizenship was cleansed of what remained of its meaning. Those individuals advocating on behalf of this proposition have, perhaps, forgotten that what was new in the totalitarian paradigm of the twentieth century was neither its physical brutality, nor its demographic selection of victims, nor even the sheer number of human beings who were lethally—and, precisely by means of their exclusion from politically, socially, and economically habilitated humanity, lawfully—abused and abased. Rather, what was new was the mutually conscious and voluntary alliance of totalitarian governance with the aims and practices of modern medicine; what was new was the authority of medical and hygienic intentions in the legal and social authorization of the most abominable political transformations in the history of the world. The protective custody—Schutzhaft—of biological life as such, in concert with the abstract nobility of educated and professionally competent people, achieved the total reorientation of human sociality unto the end that is the logical effect and product of every totalitarianism: death.

Here’s something that occurred to me when the topic of my Ignore Commenter list came up.

It’s now only 18 accounts long, but it’s rich in memorable handles, and there’s something curious about many of them, they’re not like “geokat62” which is random enough it could be good OPSEC, they’re not like “Raches” which strikes me as “normal,” they’re either deliberately inflammatory like “Je Suis Omar Mateen” or “gay troll,” or insult the person behind them like “Bumpkin,” “Dumbo,” “mulga mumblebrain,” and maybe “Wild Man.”

There’s something going on here that might be useful in your analysis that I don’t understand, perhaps because I’d never use such a handle, they’re either mechanical based on my True Name, stuff I admire, or genuinely randomly generated.

OK. I was being brief for the sake of commentary.

Here is a nurse to explain it in more detail.

https://rumble.com/vl432o-truth..html

didn’t you say you were leaving?

Already a bad sign when you get something like that so wrong….

Why clear the list to start over by coming back to start again?

I mostly cleared the list so I could add more people to it! But I’m happy to add back people like you after you completely ignore everything I’ve said about stabilized spike proteins, the toxicologist’s maxim “the dose makes the poison,” and the slightest bit of common sense when comparing the limited production in replication incompetent vaccines vs. an uncontrolled infection! I simply do not understand how the latter two concepts are difficult to grasp, especially in the context of what our host and I believe to be an unnatural pathogen, unless you believe you and yours are somehow blessed to never get infected.

Genetic fallacy.

Deliberately inflammatory? It’s actual just perfectly honest. I am a gay troll.

I assume that’s why you just labeled me a Troll, unless you thought my simple yes or no question was deliberately inflammatory.

For some reason didn’t seem to come up when I checked the previous and this post.
(Dunno, carelessness, fear flu fatigue, stupidity . . . Somebody get a rope and ladder. )
Glad to see I was wrong.
cheers

Is Raches “he”, “she”, or “they”?

The prior thread, which was rife with Raches conspiracy theories by others near the end, abruptly closed while I was writing the following reply to @Bugey libre’s comment. To be clear, I am not accusing M. Bugey of propounding such theories; but Mlle. Iris has done so, and I was also playing off the general context.

Bugey libre:

You are being rude and manipulative toward Iris. In real life, mister would be nazi, this would stop real quickly… Your verbiosity would have an end, very fastly…

Monsieur, I regret that your gentlemanly sensibilities are upset by seeing Miss Iris get her deserts. Perhaps “mister” should have offered her the guidance she so seems to need. If she did not want to be publicly humiliated, then she should have minded her manners, and refrained from condescending to her superiors and vilely traducing them with misological nonsense. So ugly is her face unmasked!

I have warned that I respectfully criticize one of my favorite historical leaders: Adolf Hitler was too merciful. I hate rudeness. Miss Iris will swallow her own tongue.

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Alack for her, Miss Iris is outclassed.

My “best friend” was a scientifically-minded lady: A lucid mind as rational as clockwork—crossed with a peculiarly feminine viciousness when she was offended, and a woman’s intuition for striking the spot that hurts the most. She was occasionally manipulative, as expected. She relished my favorite Kipling; and she loved that most controversial Nietzsche line, which was suggested to Dr. Nietzsche by one of his woman friends: “‘Du gehst zu Frauen? Vergiß die Peitsche nicht!’”

I wish that I could invite her here. M. Bugey, if you think that I am being mean to poor little Mademoiselle Iris, imagine a lioness attacking an alley cat. It would not quite be a catfight, but it would be amusing nevertheless. Naturally, for “mister” to attempt interference would be lethal to him.

Alas, she passed away. I am left to my own devices.

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…the most powerful and influential women in the world (and lastly, the mother of Napoleon) had just to thank their force of will—and not their schoolmasters—for their power and ascendancy over men. [Nietzsche]

Given that this thread has switched from being half conspiracy theories about our gracious host, to half conspiracy theories about Raches, we will now please the crowd:

New conspiracy theory: “Raches” may be a woman, playing a man on the Internet to avoid unwanted attention from basement-dwelling losers. That has nothing to do with so-called “transgender” perverts: It has long been a common practice for technologically adept females, who learn the hard way that nerds are disgusting, ill-mannered, and sexually frustrated.

Consider the evidence:

1. In a coded allusion to Mein Kampf, the name “Raches” is constructed from a German word that is definitely feminine. Raches also aligns “himself” with Nemesis, the Greek Goddess of Revenge.

2. Raches idly explores these little personal dramas, which most men would ignore. Raches is “occasionally manipulative”. Let’s admit it: This is all stereotypical.

3. Raches is “vicious when offended”, and has an “intuition for striking the spot that hurts the most.” Heav’n has no rage… Nor Hell a fury… Congreve would be surprised to find such fury in a man; and Kipling would be shocked if the male of the species could be so deadly.

4. Raches despises Andrew Anglin as abject scum which belongs in a slave labor camp. The only men who could admire Mr. Anglin are mentally retarded; the only women who could fail to despise Mr. Anglin are both moronic and insane.

5. Raches occasionally makes casual remarks which would drive Mr. Anglin even more nuts than usual.

6. Does Raches have a crush on Reichsminister Dr. Goebbels? Although it sometimes literally portrays him as an ass as his “official portrait”, the Jewish Wikipravda has other times called Dr. Goebbels a “stud”, quote-unquote, and also alleged in the same version that he indulged his mulierosity “‘with extraordinary vigor and a surprising degree of success.’[16]” This allegation is consistent with the insinuations of our local Walter Winchell. Women are generally attracted to men who attract women; thus, regardless of whether or not it be true, the charge makes the studly Dr. Goebbels an official chick magnet! Furthermore, Dr. Goebbels was, in fact, an enthralling orator: Frau Magda Goebbels is said to have fallen in love with him on the spot, the first time that she attended a Goebbels speech. The customarily reserved Raches enthused that Dr. Goebbels is “my shining star” (!). Is that a hint?

7. Raches has a supreme contempt for flaky, irrational females, such as Miss Iris. Smart females usually do. Raches has a smug fondness for smart females. Smart females always do. See above: “My ‘best friend’…” Does that really mean a friend? Or are you talking about one of your lovers, Raches, or your wife—or are you talking about your best gal-pal—or yourself?

On the other hand, Raches has repeatedly shown an interest in sowing disinformation about his, her, or their identit(ies). And Raches has linked to The Last Psychiatrist, where Dr. “Alone” spent years playing subtle psychological games with readers’ assumptions that he was a man. He was, in fact, a man; and he was a psychiatrist with a sense of humor, although I doubt that he shares all my tastes.

Conclusion: Maybe. By the law of Nature, and contrary to “Nature”, a differential diagnosis can only admit three possibilities: “He”, “she”, or “they”. Thus, there are only two alternative theories: Either Raches is a group effort—or Raches is a dissident psychiatrist who detests rudeness, and he decided to make Miss Iris swallow her tongue. That last is not quite plausible, so we need to add some reptilian space aliens—plus more Jewish Nazi eugenicists! Now, we have some plausible alternative theories.

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Hey, @Ron Unz, didn’t you remark somewhere on what can be inferred when an agile mind can win every side of a debate?

With due apologies for expounding about myself at length, myself seems to be a popular topic here. I have hereby presented a plausible theory. It may be true. I have argued for it persuasively; and I could also argue persuasively for each of the two aforestated alternative theories, each of which may also be true (minus reptilians, movie antiheroes, etc.). By the way, did Wintermute ever do anything like this? (Has he developed new abilities with the passing of years?)

All that anyone knows for certain is that I value my privacy, I repose all of my arguments on their own merits, my identity is nobody’s business—and amidst the tedious argumentation over vaccines, I sometimes inject a satire, or a vial of humour noir. After the stupidity she has displayed, and given her refusal to discuss serious, logical questions about her own arguments, a spot of needling Miss Iris is just what the doctor ordered.

How do they know the unvaxxed teacher is the source of the coof?
Were half the kids undiapered? Or, were the face diapers only half effective?
Perhaps a recently vaxxed parent gave the coof to their kid who spread it around the skool.

☮

Yeah, it’s totally ridiculous propaganda. Furthermore, I don’t really care if a bunch of kids got infected with something they’re immune to.

Now I’m actually starting to get mad on your behalf. Gay Troll should do the honorable thing and give his name up. You simply deserve it more.

These threads are fly paper for multi-thousand-word antisocial blowhards without the courtesy/wherewithal to use the MORE Tag with alacrity. Very precious, your preciouses.

LOL, you really have completely lost it. You are referring to yourself in the third person now?

Your Hasbara activity log book is all mixed up: I never was the one speculating on you being a man, a woman, or a group effort, since it is obvious enough that you are a shill.

What I did say is that, in view of your your irrational and out-of-the-blue hatred of President Kennedy, you most likely are a Sayan, one of those militant Zionists, male and female, whose life mission is to screw up the unsuspecting rest of humankind.

I sincerely hope you’ll meet as many smart females as can make your intellect happy. But what you badly need right now is neuroleptics.

“Again, why the push to inoculate those who are relatively immune from dying of the disease? There is something going on here that is not being discussed openly. Fauci and crew are not leveling with us. What is their real agenda? Obviously, it has nothing to do with the health and safety of the population. And I don’t believe that it is merely to make a profit from his investments in any of the drug companies. The real cause or reason runs deeper than that.”

Well said. I cannot prove and try not to think about it too much, but it seems to me that there is a form of asymmetric war in play, global in scope, whose goal is to fundamentally change most systems of government. On the positive side, this could be a somewhat ruthless way of effecting positive change. Let’s face it, the current world order, including so-called ‘democracies’ are highly corrupt and leave much to be desired. On the other hand, the amount of prosperity generated along with massive population growth in the past 150 years is impressive and worthy, to say the least.

My guess is that what will emerge is a new Eurasian Civilisation replacing the old Western-Christian civilisation and the Chinese-Asian civilisation which fell behind starting in the 1750’s at the same time that the former was taking off. It’s the Great Game basically.

Will the new civilization be based on fundamentally sound and good principles? I fear that based on what is going on now that the answer is no.

In any case, I think we are foolish to go along with all the bully tactics even though most of us individually can do little and may even have to be vaccinated in order to feed our families etc.

In short, a Great Reset of sorts is inevitable, however I fear that the one we are about to get will make things worse, not better, and if history is any guide (like French and Russian revolutions for example), millions are going to die in the process from various combinations of plague, war and famine.

You marked me as a Troll before, I believe, so I thought you had me on Ignore, too. Now reading that you’ve cleared your list to start over, I wonder: didn’t you say you were leaving? Why clear the list to start over by coming back to start again? Like I said, you’ve hit the point of marginal utility. . . . You do not have to give in to the dopamine addiction.

Already a bad sign when you get something like that so wrong….

You’re right.
You wrote:

That Would Be Telling says:
August 23, 2021 at 1:19 pm GMT • 5.2 days ago • 400 Words ↑
@John Wear
I intend this to be my last posting on COVID-19 here on Unz.com and I won’t be checking for replies, but I won’t hold myself to that in the ensuing months and years.

And then five hours later wrote:

That Would Be Telling says:
August 23, 2021 at 6:32 pm GMT • 5.0 days ago • 100 Words ↑
Afraid I have to make one more posting on vaccines:

I clearly got it “so wrong” . . . although I did get right that you don’t hold yourself to your own declarations, and I will speculate that I did get right that you can’t handle the addiction to commenting and replying. You thought you were going to be away for months, even years. You couldn’t even last three days from your declaration, and in the meantime have already thrown down 5800 words (using Unzian rounding), enough for one or two headliner essays (and a fifth enough to impress an Unz).

Of course, it’s also possible that one of your team members was signing off for themselves and didn’t realize the overall user account was going to continue working away at the marble that is the Unz commentariat. You need to get your team together and clarify who says what and when and how. Come on, guys. Antics such as this will get your contract terminated.

Otherwise, you lose your credibility. As narratival managers, that is.

You can say that there’s hardly enough Spike in a “replication incompetent vaccine” but the very large numbers of people suffering from adverse reactions demonstrate it’s certainly enough for them.

Yes, I do ignore what you write. I don’t mind you ignoring me. I am a surrealist metafictional metalepsis penally vacationing on this planet, indulging in what the Divine instructs me as penance for my crimes on my home world. Paying attention to me is unworthy of the time of A Serious Man.

Here’s a LONG article that’s interesting and related to the thread:
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mRNA “Vaccines”, Eugenics & the Push for Transhumanism
The worldwide rollout of mRNA “vaccines” is part of a much larger agenda that encompasses eugenics and transhumanism. This agenda is being funded and promoted by a network of global institutions, politicians, and billionaire technocrats.
Ryan Matters
Aug 28, 2021
https://off-guardian.org/2021/08/28/mrna-vaccines-eugenics-the-push-for-transhumanism/

So, getting back to the debate: Ivermectin should be given emergency use authorization and become part of the covid response.

The WHO and CDC have given themselves the right to lie and thereby forfeited their credibility.

““The results show that a standard surgical and three-ply cloth masks … filter at apparent efficiencies of only 12.4% and 9.8%, respectively,” according to the University of Waterloo study’s conclusion.

But KN95 and N95 masks afford “substantially higher apparent filtration efficiencies (60% and 46% for R95 and KN95 masks, respectively)…””

https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/study-finds-n95-masks-more-effective-than-surgical-cloth-masks/

But N95 masks don’t just work by mechanical filtration, there’s also an “electrostatic” effect.

“N95s filter out at least 95 percent of very small particles that are about 0.3 microns in size, according to the CDC. But this is the particle size for which the masks are least efficient. In fact, N95s are better at filtering out particles that are either larger or smaller than 0.3 microns.

These masks can filter about 99.8 percent of particles with a diameter of about 0.1 microns, according to a February 2017 study published in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Hygiene. As an April 2020 review published in the journal eLife notes, SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is an enveloped virus with about a 0.1 micron diameter, so N95s are particularly suited to our current pandemic.

Why are N95s so efficient at filtering out the smaller particles? It has something to do with “Brownian motion,” or a phenomenon that causes particles smaller than 0.3 microns to move in a haphazard, zig-zagging motion. This makes it more likely for the particles to get caught inside the fibers of the N95. Plus, the masks use electrostatic absorption, which means that rather than passing through the fiber, the particles are trapped.

“Although these particles are smaller than the pores, they can be pulled over by the charged fibers and get stuck,” Jiaxing Huang, a materials scientist at Northwestern University, told USA Today. “When the charges are dissipated during usage or storage, the capability of stopping virus-sized particles diminishes. This is the main reason of not recommending the reuse of N95 masks.””

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a35383193/n95-vs-kn95-mask-differences/

Thanks for the opening of this dialog RU. It was valuable and informative for awhile, and was then hi-jacked by terrorists and flown into brick walls.

Maybe in a couple weeks we can begin again with some new/updated info. Like the bad news for vaxists coming out of Israel, and the fake approval of the Pfizer ‘vaccine’ but this thread has run its course.

Thanks again!

“But being America, we are vaccinated those who have no risk from Covid, as well as pets and zoo animals.”

Now that the Pfizer jab is approved, how long before we see the commercials for it on TV, with those ever smiling, active people?

Ask your MD about COMIRNATY today!

Followed by a long list of possible side-effects in point 4 font.

It would be really great if you could make the system return us to where we were in the thread when we replied to a message, instead of dumping us at the bottom of the thread!

Good point, albeit probably not one that should be dissected excessively here. Anyway, please recall from your Usenet days that there are many basement-dwelling losers who simply troll—and that some of them choose names with the characteristics that you mentioned. Sorting out the lulz-craving trolls and griefers from more organized, motivated trolls would be a difficult exercise; and the latter category would probably be divided between fanatical anti-vaxxers, and those who may want to discredit anti-vaxxers.

I have observed a few other patterns with certain commentators. Only one of those: [cc: @Ron Unz re moderation, and also somewhat extending this thought.]

I am not on social media. No Facebook, no Twitter, no Telegram, no Mastodon, no Gab. I do not use the Internet the way that most people do. No Gmail, either. I am almost impossible to contact by modern means. Eh, perhaps I may try Gab someday, if I want to annoy myself getting locked into a centralized platform.

I enjoy my independent personal ivory tower—or perhaps better said, my cloistered refuge in the New Dark Age. But it admittedly gives me some blind spots around the anti-vaxxer debate.

On alert from some other stuff, I now notice that many of the comments here are repetitious, retreading the same arguments over and again. I had noticed already that many of the commentators seem to “brigade” with each other, in both comments and Reactions. For this and other reasons, I am reasonably suspicious that there may be talking points passed around for repetition. It is a type of problem that Wiki gnomes call “meatpuppets”, by analogy to “sockpuppets”.

It is no more paranoid to infer that at least some of the most zealous anti-vaxxers may be getting their talking points from social media anti-vaxx groups, than to infer that an evangelical church group may be involved when you see an off-topic/thread-derailing flood of pasted Bible quotes, “Intelligent Design” tracts, etc. (Based on what I once saw in a moderation queue somewhere, I presume that Mr. Unz’s queue must see plenty more of those than we do.) If I were to see a sudden flood of “social media influencer” type pro-vaxxer propaganda here, I would make the similar inferences on the other side.

More generally, die-hard “conspiracists” are probably getting sucked into groups dedicated to fighting the Covid vaccines “at any cost”. For a likely example: You mentioned “geokat62”, who has an extensive comment history. I think that he is probably a “true-believer” type loaded with fallacious thinking. It is possible that it could be a long-term screen name established by an influence operation, from any of various organizations and entities; but Mr. Geokat looks more to me like a follower, and there are so very many of those on the Internet.

As a sort of an intellectual exercise, I have sometimes contemplated how I may mitigate problems such as those “influence ops” that Mr. Greenwald described, if I ran a discussion platform. Such measures should be highly effective against meatpuppetting, in the manner that armor which can stop a tank cannon is also effective against pistol shots. However, that would require significant moderation resources—not something that Mr. Unz would want to do on a topic that he doesn’t even care about. I don’t want to discuss specifics, anyway. “Food for thought.”

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I just love to chit-chat about myself; so I must jump to address this, Mr. Telling:

…“Raches” which strikes me as “normal,”…

I know what you meant; thank you. But I invested more than “normal” thought and effort in my pseudonym. If I did my homework right with archaic German onomastics, “Raches” is a name to lay upon the altar of my trinity of philological doctors: Dr. Nietzsche, Dr. Goebbels, and Dr. Oliver.

I remarked on this, the first time that anyone asked about my name (end of comment); and before that, I hinted that it has a message. The association with hunting dogs is convenient, but not the purpose. And until “acementhead” pointed it out, I did not notice that for a real truth-seeker, it is a serendipitous anagram; perhaps I will not have Miss Iris for dinner, after all. (Sorry, dear: You are disinvited.)

Likewise, some of my better comments are laced with subtle puns, subtexts, allusions, and double entendres that the average reader will never notice. I never wanted to write ephemeral literature.

Zzzzz…

You know, I would have more patience with the pro-vaxxers and the vaccine itself, if they were not selling the whole thing on LIES, all the fucking time!

Just one tiny example, I was just watching a video of a supposed doctor from a governmental organization saying that “the vaccines are good and 100% safe for small children and pregnant women and all children and pregnant women should be vaccinated”. Now, the vaccine hasn’t even been formally tested on pregnant women or small children, as they did not take part in the trials. The manufacturers’ own documentation says that “we don’t know the effects on fertility or on small children”.

So how do they know it is “safe”? Why are they telling us, if they don’t know?

And on and on, LIES, proven LIES, all the fucking time!

Why should I, or anyone, use a product that is being promoted basically with hysteria, and LIES, LIES, LIES??

How the MSM is talking about Ivermectin:

Business Insider

A doctor who advised Florida Gov. DeSantis on COVID-19 promoted horse dewormer ivermectin to treat the disease

Connor Perrett
Sat, August 28, 2021, 1:46 PM

Dr. Mercola’s website had it on sale just the other day.

Referring to Ivermectin, the chairman of Tokyo’s Medical Association had a minute of interesting comment on it recently. In essence, he comments that a number of African countries have been passing out Ivermectin routinely to treat parasites for years. COVID infection rates in those countries are noticeably far lower than the rates in neighboring African countries that do NOT use Ivermectin have been.

He goes on to say that “sure, more studies should be done” but that that since we are in an emergency situation, prescribing this is something we can do while we await the results of further such studies.

As the Japanese are very conservative about such stuff, I would view this as a big boost for Ivermectin.

Actually there are couple things about the vaccines I’d like to have clarified.

1. I’d like to know how big the spike protein is in relation to the full size of the covid virus.

Some of these vaccines replicate only the spike (so I hear). Looking a pictures of the virus, the spike protein looks maybe 50 to 100 times smaller than the full virus. This means the spikes could get into areas that the full virus couldn’t get into simply by size alone. Someone should check on that.

2. The vaccines seem to allow someone to have a much higher viral load without symptoms. These symptoms are usually caused by your body fighting the virus. In other words, your body is fighting the virus (lots and lots of it ) you just don’t know it. Your body could be getting a lot more damage and not know it since the feedback response has been attenuated.

Someone should check that also.

I’d also like to know how the spikes are configured. What does the “inactive” end of the spike look like? Can the “inactive end” attach to anything? Can two (or more) spikes join at their “inactive” ends?

Meanwhile in Japan…

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/2-people-die-japan-after-moderna-shots-tainted-batch

Did they discover what was the “contaminant”?

Or was it the vaccine itself?

“As of Aug. 8, 991 people had died in Japan after receiving shots of Pfizer Inc’s vaccine and 11 after receiving Moderna’s,”

Maybe we’ll get lucky and the people responsible for this will choke to death on their own blood.

To all pro-needle people,

Look up and review the work of Byram Bridle, Charles Hoff and Peter McCullough, to name a few. If you still support the kill shot then you are guilty of genocide.

Nothing says “officially approved” like a pile of corpses.

That is the damn truth! Listen, I’ve known a handful of people who had Covid, incl me (an intense, prolonged bout) but, I’ve known no one who was hospitalized for Covid or anyone who died with or of Covid.

But, get this: Just in my little universe, I am aware of three people who’ve had bad, prolonged reactions to the vaccines and two who are dead. Yes! I’m going to type a short synopsis about each and post it on this thread later.

Also, several commenters on here have mentioned people they know who’ve died after taking them and some commenters on another site I read regularly are posting stories about family or friends who’ve had serious reactions and their Doctors don’t what to do.

That vaccine is a fvcking HORROR.

There are prolific commenters here who laugh at comments like yours. Can you believe that? Pretty bizarre. Pretty scary.

While it would have been nice to have an informed person give you actual links to actual tests and not a web-published press release, if you’re still interested, here are a few results I came across (without having any difficulty navigating Delta Airlines links [—but then doing autodidactic research is kind of what I do]):

ABBOTT REALTIME SARS-COV-2 ASSAY
https://www.molecular.abbott/int/en/products/infectious-disease/RealTime-SARS-CoV-2-Assay
This also leads to an interesting (to me) technical brief:
https://www.molecular.abbott/sal/COL-04232%20v2.0%20Cross%20Division%20COVID%20Variant%20Tech%20Brief_June%20Update_v2_clean_2.pdf

I noticed that this pdf had a footnote towards the end that reads:

The emergency use of the products are only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of in vitro diagnostics for detection and/or diagnosis of COVID-19 under Section 564(b)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(b)(1), unless the declaration is terminated or authorization is revoked sooner.

This line and others very similar I’ve found on several of these test kit spec pdfs

COVID-19 Testing Solutions
https://www.eurofins-technologies.com/products/covid-19-testing.html

One example:
GSD NovaType III SARS-CoV-2 (1×96 reactions)
https://www.eurofins-technologies.com/gsd-novatype-iii-sars-cov-2.html

CE-IVD marked Multiplex RT-PCR Assay for the qualitative detection and discrimination of relevant mutations associated with SARS-CoV-2 variants: B.1.427 / B.1.429 (Epsilon), / B.1.617.2 (Delta), B.1.617.1 (Kappa) / B.1.617.3, B.1.351 (Beta) / P.1 (Gamma).

The assay is intended as a confirmatory test for detection of concerning RNA mutations within the S gene of the SARS-CoV-2 genome that are suspected to affect efficacy of vaccination or transmissibility of the virus.

Not available in the US.

Hmm to that last line . . .

Smart Detect™ SARS-CoV-2 rRT-PCR Kit
https://inbios.com/smart-detecttm-sars-cov-2-rrt-pcr-kit/

InBios’s Smart Detect™ SARS-CoV-2 rRT-PCR kit detects variants Alpha (B.1.1.7), Beta (B.1.351), Gamma (P.1), Delta (B.1.617.2), Kappa (B.1.617), Eta (B.1.525), Iota (B.1.526) and Lambda (C.37).

•This test has not been FDA cleared or approved;
•This test has been authorized by FDA under an EUA for use by authorized laboratories;
•This test has been authorized only for the detection of nucleic acid from SARS-CoV-2, not for any other viruses or pathogens; and
•This test is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of in vitro diagnostic tests for detection and/or diagnosis of COVID-19 under Section 564(b)(1) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(b)(1), unless the authorization is terminated or revoked sooner.

Scrolling down some more, saw this in the “Advantages”:

•FDA Emergency Use Authorized and CE Marked
•Predicted to detect variants B.1.1.7 (UK), B.1.351 (South Africa), P.1 (Brazil), B.1.526 (New York), B.1.427 & B.1.429 (California), and B.1.617/ B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 & B.1.617.3 (India)
•3-target system minimizes impact of new SARS-CoV-2 variants

Predicted to?

Looking further down, I saw they state the sensitivity and specificity:

•Sensitivity: 100% PPA
•Specificity: 96.7% NPA

Now, I am not Kratoklastes and readily acknowledge that I am innumerate, so the following always makes me surprised to think about, which first came to my attention through this guy:

Let’s say I have a disease that inflicts 1 person out of a thousand people, and I have test with a 100% sensitivity and a 95% specificity. What is the probability that a person with a positive test result has the disease?

Then I think about COVID-19 and diagnostic tests such as this one. Consulting the current CDC case numbers and current US population and just assuming these are fact, then COVID-19 is a disease that’s infected 116 out of 1000 people. So what is the probability that a person with a positive result for this test has COVID-19?

My dumb ass says it’s about 78%. Am I wrong?

Ugh, yes, the CDC. Didn’t it just have to walk back it’s ‘record daily infections’ in FL screeching after it was found to have lumped multiple days of infections into one? The FL department of health had to publicly admonish them before the CDC revised the numbers.

LOTS of problems with CDC reporting and data! Here’s an article that should boggle anyone’s mind. GIGO is the current state of CDC Covid data. It’s mostly unreliable but yet the MSM and health officers seem to take it as gospel.
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Holes in reporting of breakthrough Covid cases hamper CDC response
The agency originally tried to track all infections in vaccinated people, from mild to severe. But in May it decided to focus on the most severe cases.
A patient, who is on oxygen as she recovers from Covid, talks to her husband, who also contracted Covid and is being kept alive with the help of an oxygenation machine.

In Louisiana, where cases are still surging, health officials had counted 14,650 breakthrough infections as of last week
By ERIN BANCO
08/25/2021 04:30 AM EDT

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/25/cdc-pandemic-limited-data-breakthroughs-506823

Thank you. I’ve added that (and some other news reports I’ve found) to my screed about why you can’t trust COVID-19 statistics. It’s nice to have “non-crackpot” sources to support at least some of my claims. My earlier work appeared in an earlier thread, I don’t know/too lazy to link it. If/when a revised document is available, I will post a link to it.

Who the fuck cares? You’re really full of yourself. Why not focus on posting something useful or find another sandbox to play in?

I enjoy my independent personal ivory tower—or perhaps better said, my cloistered refuge in the New Dark Age. But it admittedly gives me some blind spots around the anti-vaxxer debate.

And yet you descended from your ivory tower to almost exclusively talk about whether the vaccine is effective. Who cares if your chances of dying from COVID go from 1/500 to 1/5k. It’s not that interesting. Tell us more about R.P. Oliver. I just found this website with about 10 of his speeches: https://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/category/audio/
Apparently all the stuff the alt-right figured on the dissident blogosphere was already known and discussed with far greater skill a long time ago.
In this short essay he makes it clear that America has been done since at least 1981: https://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/2015/01/revilo-oliver-on-the-john-birch-society/

Actually, on an earlier posting somebody complimented me for adding the MORE button, but it was done for me, by Our Host, I assume. I think I’m a lucid contributor in these threads (as the average goes, and I know, it’s not much to brag about 😆 ) but how to add the tags and such I haven’t tried yet.

Likewise, some of my better comments are laced with subtle puns, subtexts, allusions, and double entendres that the average reader will never notice.

Cue: Billy Joel, Just the Way You Are

4th verse…

I, don’t want clever conversation
Never want to work that hard, mhm-mmh
I just want someone
That I can talk to
I want you just the way you are

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/billyjoel/justthewayyouare.html

From the comment 615 from the previous thread:

… Maybe Ron Unz can pivot to a financial forensic perspective….

He won’t.

You could take a look at:
https://andreacecchi.substack.com/p/the-right-virus-at-the-right-time

If the above makes sense keep digging……..

Good luck.

One way to do this (return to where you were once you reply) is to click on the @UserName posted just above your reply. It makes sense to display the message to you, because there are sometimes very subtle differences between the preview and the ‘temporary’ message posted, and both are also subtly different from the final version post-editing-phase. Once the comments get very long, of course, you’ll have to be patient with clicking on the @UserName before scrolling or doing so will cause worse jumping around than you intended.

Although, one solution to the long thread problem is using pages to load, say, 250 to 500 comments at a time before creating a new page of comments. This solution might have the downside where the pages of comments can’t detach from the main page containing the article. Since Unz stated the underlying base is WordPress, then essentially we’re commenting anchored to a blog entry, and that’s the root from which all our growth stems, but not branches.

I’d have to agree with you on some of the participants here. As a veteran of now three of these “COVID Isolation Ward” 😆 threads, I’ve seen identical messages appearing in two or more. Why not just refer (or once you learn how, do the fancy link thing)? But no, cut and paste is their limit. I’m a little better: in most, but not all, cases, you may hear me repeat myself, but it’ll be a real human being re-typing similar thoughts, not just C&P what he said a week ago.

You might find the following articles to your interest and helpful for answering your questions:

Correlative multi-scale cryo-imaging unveils SARS-CoV-2 assembly and egress
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24887-y

https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41467-021-24887-y/MediaObjects/41467_2021_24887_Fig3_HTML.png

A, B CryoFIB/SEM images of two sequential slices separated by 80 nm. Black arrows point to virus particles in a vesicle (V). Purple arrow points to small electron-dense material lining the outside of virus-containing vesicle. C Tomographic slice of cryoFIB lamella depicting SARS-CoV-2 assembly, with DMV portals (yellow arrow), assembling viruses (blue arrow), assembled virus (black arrow), viral spikes on SMV membranes (red arrows), transporting vesicles around the assembly site (pink arrow), and a nucleopore (black arrowhead). D Density segmentation of C, displaying three virus particles (black arrows) and two assembly sites (blue arrows). E An enlarged view (at a different angle) of boxed area in C, showing assembled virus (black arrow), assembling viruses (blue arrows), spikes (red arrows), and spike-containing vesicles (pink arrows). F Large intracellular virus-containing vesicle (LVCV) full of readily assembled viruses. G Subtomogram average of viral spikes of intracellular viruses from cell lamellae at 16 Å resolution, fitted with an atomic model of spike trimer (PDB 6VXX)16. Scale bar is 300 nm in A–C and 100 nm in E, F.

You can also get a large view of one of their figures (“Fig. 4: Viruses in complex membrane compartments (CMCs).”), here. That link will take you to tomograms of SARS-CoV-2 with Spike identified, with a scale bar in the photos for reference so that you can see a size correspondance.

Here’s another article:

The Strengths of Scanning Electron Microscopy in Deciphering SARS-CoV-2 Infectious Cycle
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2020.02014/full

https://www.frontiersin.org/files/Articles/562013/fmicb-11-02014-HTML-r2/image_t/fmicb-11-02014-g007.gif

Figure 7. SEM of SARS-CoV-2 mature particles at 18–36 h post-infection. observed at intra- and extra- cellular locations. (A–C) Viral mature particles lying between cellular microvilli. (D,E) Virus particles within smooth vesicles at the cell periphery and eventually fused with the cell membrane (arrowhead) to release the virus (arrow). (F,G) Viral particles in translucent vacuoles or attached to the plasma membrane of a lysed cell. Small arrow points to a SARS-CoV-2 corona spike.

That article is interesting because it also shows the SARS-CoV-2 growth/production cycle, using scanning electron microscopy. The Figure I blocked just above is the last one: exit/egress.

I’m always curious what people who say there is no such thing as SARS-CoV-2 as it’s never been isolated think about when they see these kinds of images. Could we hear from some of you what you think about when you see these images?

I got covid well over a year ago and have since then been operating under the assumption my natural immunity would protect me from reinfection and would drive down the risk of me transmitting the disease to others close to zero. Masks for me a pointless exercise in all likelihood and getting vaccinated would add little if any extra protection for me. Jokingly I have told friends I am in the elite now.

To me the logic behind this assumption is very simple in layman’s terms: After all vaccines are trying to trigger or train our immune system to fend off this virus. If this can work, the real thing (be infected) must be equally as good and likely better. Studies have already shown more complex immune response from infection and likely our immune system has complex profile on this new enemy.

Therefore I am a bit happy to see this study confirming my assumption.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

I think it shows beyond doubt natural immunity from covid infection is very good protection. Could be better perhaps but it’s many times better protection than double Pfizer jab with of without Delta.

However it’s disappointing how far the double Pfizer jab is behind natural immunity. That’s bad news for everyone for rather obvious reasons. We have huge number of people in high risk groups relying on vaccines to get back to normal life. And massive economic problems, pretty much all over the world – and I think we will be stuck in this situation much longer because of this.

Case in point was Iceland after having trashed all domestic restrictions early summer when we both had very few infections and all the high risk groups + many more were already vaccinated. It was a celebration and boarder restrictions were eased and we even saw slow restart of our very important tourist industry. Then mid summer the fourth wave hit and it became clear in matter of days the reality was very different than we expected. Both politicians and health officials had their ‘deer in the headlight’ moment and didn’t even try to hide their disappointment. I think the same is slowly happening all over the “west”. I don’t follow the MSM much but from what I see this is slowly sinking in.

As a side note: Since I have been criticized and called naive for not accepting theories about our Gov. or health officials acting in good faith. Well, since they were happy to abandon all domestic restrictions, mask use included, at first opportunity they were hardly interested to bring about some alleged totalitarian agenda permanently. Gullible perhaps, bad faith no.

However, strong natural immunity after infection is great news. If our immune system had serious problems handling covid – how difficult would it be to create vaccines to compensate? Without it, heard immunity of varying degree seems impossible? It’s also promising to see natural immunity deal rather well with the Delta variant. Suggesting it will do so for future variants likely to come.

With vaccine protection falling with time, perhaps recently vaccinated should seek infection as “booster” against future variants? I have seen this speculation floating around and for lower risk groups this might make sense.

c&d, ivermectin is easy to get, go to your local feed lot/farm supplier & tell them your horse needs it. all you have to concern yourself with is weight etc. which is sort of fun for your nerd friends. best of luck & have your blast @ your party.

Unless ‘our’ legal system is rigged by the big boys, and ‘enough people’ lose their suits, and are ordered to pay court fees and defendant’s costs. As is happening to a friend right now…. ‘under law’ means very little, apparently.

“Unzian rounding”

I don’t know why I found that so funny.

I like you.

I did not foresee that there would be any organized faction zealously determined to stop people from getting vaccinated, “at any cost”. Maybe that was a bit naïf of me, but I really expected for this to be a debate whereby those opposed to the vaccines were trying to make medical decisions for themselves and their families, and express their opinions in good faith. I did not foresee that anyone would try to stop even those who want the vaccines from getting them, at any cost. I reasonably expected to see some stupidity, some crackpot theories, and more than a few quack fallacies—but I did not expect to see so much pathological lying.

Why care whether Raches was naïve or not? Maybe his friends might care but we are strangers.

He engages in a combination straw-man and circular argument with that “at any cost.” You can trash any position by choosing its worse proponents. The better anti-vaxxers argue that the cost of, that is, the risk of a serious adverse reaction to, the vaccine exceeds that for Covid. These anti-vaxxers are sincere in their arguments, they aren’t lying. Many people have mentioned Doctors Peter McCullough, Robert Malone, and Meryl Nass. I have read only a fraction of the cataract of comments here but be sure to add Dr. Samantha Bailey (search Bitchute or Odysee, her Covid videos have been pretty much banned from YouTube).

I think lots of people read your articles carefully and thoroughly. It’s just that some, like me, don’t feel they have much to add. Your subjects are well-chosen, and argued quite clearly and convincingly.

Any relation to the indie band “Reeve Oliver”?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeve_Oliver

‘Wild Man’ is a pretty straightforward handle. Years ago, I started with ‘Average Man’ … and then I quickly found out when interacting on forums, that what I thought was average (me), apparently is not.

After a lot of interaction, I began to conclude that it’s a domestication issue. Whilst interacting at fairly deep level of analysis, … I found that the vast majority of people have domestication issues.

I never could be domesticated though. It didn’t take (from the very beginning …. from earliest memories). Thank God I was blessed with stellar parents that let the kid be. So, as it turned out, within that family dynamic …. I had two lovely, lively, and very intelligent parents that let me challenge them, on any topic under the sun that might have suited my fancy …. and being such great people (whom I loved so much) …. they did their best to answer my queries without blowing smoke at me, and so as it was, I learned early on that mostly, the human realm is filled with unresolved mystery. What an exquisite gift my parents arranged for me, that way. I am forever in their debt (though they are both gone now …. I think the indebtedness is outside of time somehow). I guess I’m what one would describe as ‘incorrigible to domestication’. Growing up I thought everyone was. It has taken me a lifetime to slowly find out it just isn’t true. Most people don’t really trust themselves.

So ‘Wild Man’, as moniker, for me personally, means – ‘man whom is incorrigible to domestication operations’. I have no idea why this is. Maybe I’m doing the self-ego-stroke thing here myself. But it doesn’t really seem that way to me. I think I’m being honest with myself when I claim this. But who really knows? (i.e. – the unresolved mystery, all around us …if confronted, blows anybody’s ego to smithereens, or at least it seems so to me).

I guess that is why true-westernism so vigorously resonates with me. It calls for just so much more ontological and existential humility than I glean is apparent within any other gestalts.

I think forum-handles are probably hyper-personal, to each person, and there really is not going to by any trivializing pattern apparent, upon deep analysis, upon each such handle-using person.

If you wouldn’t mind … what does ‘That Would Be Telling’, mean to you, personally (like why did you choose that handle)?

Actually, yours is not such a bad idea. The Delta variant, while highly contagious, is not near as deadly as the original. If it confers immunity to the whole family, isn’t this the one we would want to get?

You and I sure have different ideas of what constitutes a summary.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/25/cdc-data-shows-high-virus-survival-rate-99-plus-for-ages-69-and-younger-94-6-for-older/

IMPORTANT. IRISH GP SPEAKS OUT ABOUT WHAT SHE IS SEEING.

(8 minutes)

https://rumble.com/vlkh35-important.-irish-gp-speakes-out-about-what-she-is-seeing.html

Also, several commenters on here have mentioned people they know who’ve died after taking them and some commenters on another site I read regularly are posting stories about family or friends who’ve had serious reactions and their Doctors don’t what to do.

That vaccine is a fvcking HORROR.

If you want some real adverse effect reports including death, go to the VAERS dB. Via OpenVAERS, it is easy to search. I did a search on the year 2021 with a result of death related to Cvoid19 (remember, these entries are about effects AFTER receiving a vax shot). There are pages and pages and pages of death incidents! Interesting reading.

I saw a refusenik MD interviewed on TV the other day and one of the reasons he gave for his refusal to get a shot was the depth of incidences in the VAERS system that had not been addressed nor explained. He wants the FDA/CDC to examine and explain the 500k+ incidences. Clearly these adverse incidences did not figure into the recent approval of Pfizer’s COMIRNATY vaccine.

Why aren’t the MSM like the AP & Reuters, who often do investigative journalism, looking into this data???
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OpenVAERS Data
COVID Vaccine Data

VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries. OpenVAERS is built from the HHS data available for download at vaers.hhs.gov.

The OpenVAERS Project allows browsing and searching of the reports without the need to compose an advanced search (more advanced searches can be done at medalerts.org or vaers.hhs.gov).

1,409,662 – REPORTS OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS IN VAERS
13,068 – Post-COVID Vaccine Reported Deaths / 21,936 Total VAERS Reported Deaths
54,142 – Post-COVID Vaccine Reported Hospitalizations/131,897 Total VAERS Reported Hospitalizations
595,620 – COVID Vaccine Adverse Event Reports

Through August 13, 2021
https://www.openvaers.com/

Enlightened Denmark to reclassify Covid19 and remove special pandemic restrictions. This is the first step in returning to normal!
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Denmark to scrap ALL Covid-19 restrictions
27 August 2021

Denmark will on September 10th stop classifying Covid-19 as an “illness which is a critical threat to society”, meaning all remaining special pandemic restrictions will expire.

In a press release issued on Friday morning, the country’s health minister Magnus Heunicke said that the high level of vaccination in Denmark, particularly among the vulnerable, had radically altered the risks posed by the virus.

“The epidemic is under control, we have record high vaccination rates,” he said in a statement. “As a result, on September 10th, we can drop some of the special rules we have had to introduce in the fight against Covid-19.”
…..
https://www.thelocal.dk/20210827/denmark-to-scrap-all-covid-19-restrictions-next-month/

I refer to Raches’ comment … this pigeon crowed so ostentatiously in follow up comments that shooing it away calls for a response.

Raches is starting to shape up as a prime contender for That Would Be Telling’s Uber Troll-Tagger Crown.

Before too long, it might be just as prestigious to receive Raches’ Troll Tag Award as That Would Be Telling’s.

It does somewhat dilute the bragging rights, though.

Well I predicted early on that the hospitals would be overcrowded again thanks to Delta ripping through the unvaccinated and I was accused here by anti-vaxxers for spreading hype. I was right and here is a story from one of those hospitals:

https://www.mediaite.com/columnists/he-survived-two-tours-in-afghanistan-but-died-from-a-treatable-illness-because-hospitals-were-overcrowded-with-unvaxxed-covid-patients/

So a vet wasn’t able to get an ICU bed thanks to the unvaccinated. Great job guys.

But go ahead and carry on this Alliance of Stupidity. Really sticking it to the liberal media by committing suicide.

Oh and the wife of this proud anti-vaxxer has a gofundme setup if anyone is interested:
https://www.mediaite.com/news/anti-mask-freedom-rally-organizer-who-took-ivermectin-dies-from-covid-19-after-weeks-long-battle/

ivermectin is easy to get, go to your local feed lot/farm supplier & tell them your horse needs it.

I don’t think you want to get animal grade Ivermectin. I am told that they may contain impurities that may be harmful to humans. There really is no need to go this route. There are plenty of doctors online who will prescribe the human version, and the costs are relatively low compared to other drugs.

Here is a reliable and legal source for quality Ivermectin and/or HCQ:

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/treatments/how-do-i-get-covid-19-medication/

If you still support the kill shot then you are guilty of genocide.

No, it just means that they are really not very bright, can’t resolve the truth from two conflicting narratives, and give infinitely too much credit to the talking heads on the bought-and-paid-for mainstream media and the “Fact Checkers” on Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, and to all their similarly infatuated social media “friends”.

Rather than being guilty of genocide, I’m gradually coming to the conclusion that a great many of these people are just too dumb to live – just too point-blank stupid to save themselves.

It’s the sociopathic psycopaths further up the food chain that are guilty of genocide. They are the individuals (many, many thousands of them around the world) that I want to see on the end of a noose, after we read them their rights and stand them in front of a judge and a jury, all legal-like.

The Delta variant, while highly contagious, is not near as deadly as the original. If it confers immunity to the whole family, isn’t this the one we would want to get?

We would, if only we could determine the actual strain of the virus. I have not heard a convincing presentation of how one can tell one strain from another, when it appears we have yet to isolate the original Covid virus – which begs the question of how one can vaccinate against a virus that one can’t isolate/identify – but what do I know, I am just a crackpot.

A major problem with putting together such an infection party would be finding an appropriately infected (and infectious) person to provide the virus.

Well I predicted early on that the hospitals would be overcrowded again thanks to Delta ripping through the unvaccinated and I was accused here by anti-vaxxers for spreading hype. I was right and here is a story from one of those hospitals:

Might you be generalizing from isolated pockets to the country at large?

What I did say is that, in view of your your irrational and out-of-the-blue hatred of President Kennedy, you most likely are a Sayan, one of those militant Zionists, male and female, whose life mission is to screw up the unsuspecting rest of humankind.

Mademoiselle, I know that you sometimes tell little fibs. But when you are so distraught, I must give you the benefit of the doubt. Caught as you are between a rock and a hard place, as I observe below, you probably just didn’t notice that prior hereto, here at The Unz Review, I have made only one adverse remark against Kennedy:

Starting around when Jackanapes Kennedy declared “interdependence” to replace independence, America dismantled its own industries. That is not the fault of the Chinese.

Is that “irrational and out-of-the-blue hatred” spewed by a “militant Zionist” who is “most likely are a Sayan”?

As you are no doubt unaware, due to your ignorance not only of American political history, but worldwide political history, “Jackanapes” was Professor Oliver’s special term of endearment for a very liberal, internationalist president. And Professor Oliver specifically criticized “Jackanapes” for his infamous “Declaration of Interdependence”, which Jackanapes had the stunning chutzpah to deliver on July 4, 1962 as his speech for American Independence Day. It is generic One World slime, replete with drivel about “freedom in diversity”, etc., etc.

I cite Professor Oliver not so much to appeal to his authority, as to point out the following:

1. I am heartbroken that you just proved that Professor Oliver was a “militant Zionist” and “most likely [] a Sayan”. Alas, so was George Dietz—who grew up in the Hitler Youth, and was the proud son of an SA man.

Professor Oliver chose a publisher for his articles on one primary criterion: Herr Dietz personally promised him that his words would be published as-is, with absolutely no editing. Even Dr. Pierce cut Dr. Oliver’s writing to avoid too-explosive issues—a point of disagreement which, ironically, indirectly resulted in Dr. Pierce writing The Turner Diaries.

In his Aryan racialist Liberty Bell magazine, Herr Dietz regularly featured Professor Oliver’s retrospective tirades against “Jackanapes”—amidst eloquent Oliverian prose on how “Yahweh’s Precious Darlings” are using “noble niggers” and “magnanimous mestizos” to destroy “Americans”, i.e., Aryan Americans to the exclusion of all others. Why, Professor Oliver was such a militant Zionist that he called America a Jewish satrapy, ruled by Jews who are building a One World empire with its capital in Jerusalem!

Sacrebleu, those Sayanim Oliver and Dietz have fooled me. Their whole agenda was to commit Defamation against Saint Kennedy, for the purpose of covering up for the Mossad assassins—just like Raches. iSN’T IT OBVIOUS??? 😮

2. Criticism of Kennedy was, of course, a mainstream Conservative position—right up until the moment that Kennedy was shot. In the 1963–1966 time period, Professor Oliver complained that the Kennedy assassination was being used to shut down the American right wing. Whether or not that was in any way a motive, and whether perhaps instead the situation was conveniently exploited to that end, Professor Oliver was livid at the cowardice of “Conservatives” who suddenly one day praised the ultra-liberal nation-wrecker, whom they had so vehemently condemned just yesterday. The liberal media promptly created an atmosphere in which criticism of the dead president was officially unpatriotic. Accordingly, cowardly Conservatives sang hosannas for their own devil—then ran and hid under their beds.

3. To infer Zionism from any criticism of Saint Kennedy is to declare all criticism of Kennedy off-limits. Cui bono?

A trivial search of my comment history confirms that prior to this hereby comment, my only other substantive comment involving Kennedy himself was a quotation favorable to Kennedy: It was about Kennedy’s praise of Senator Taft’s courageous condemnation of the Nuremberg Show Trials. I am not one of those dualistic simpletons who divides the world between Absolute Good and Absolute Evil. Although there are many parties and powers whom I unequivocally condemn, I acknowledge that Kennedy had a few good points—such as his failure totally to venerate Yahweh’s Master Race, his heresy in insufficiently hating Germans, and his unpatriotic feeling that he shouldn’t gloat about the insane injustice done at Nuremberg. I guess that he wasn’t murderous enough to be a respectable post-WWII American.

I am, of course, also somewhat sympathetic to what Kennedy said about Hitler, which is often egregiously misquoted by “neo-Nazis”. By all evidence, he generally disliked Hitler. But in 1945, he honestly remarked in his diary, “within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived.” It is similar to my argument: Hitler should be seen as an historical figure like Caesar and Napoleon. If you dislike Caesar and Napoleon, then Hitler may not be your favorite historical figure. If you admire Caesar and Napoleon, as I do, then Hitler is the greatest leader yet seen in history!

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I must note that although Mr. Unz’s theory about the Kennedy assassination is supported with his usual meticulousness, it is not an apodeictic revelation—and I doubt that he intends it to be. On the very considerable weight of Mr. Unz’s evidence, I have been reconsidering this matter.

However, I also consider some other plausible theories—such as the theory that Professor Oliver told to the Warren Commission, when he was subpoenaed to testify on September 9, 1964. Professor Oliver’s testimony is in the Warren Commission Report, Volume XV, pp. 709–744, if you care to look it up. Professor Oliver also elaborated on his theory in American Opinion at the time (as reprinted in America’s Decline), and much moreso in Liberty Bell decades later.

I am not sure if either theory is correct, or one is; with adjustment of a few details, I am not even sure that they are mutually exclusive. Just as the involvement of the Mossad would be not inconsistent with evidence of organized crime involvement, the theories may fit together. Where I know: I am reasonably sure that the official story is nonsense.

If Professor Oliver somehow missed the putative Mossad motive, it is probably because, as Mr. Unz observed, the silent tussle over Israeli nuclear aspirations was “entirely hidden from public awareness at the time”; and it seems that for decades, nobody considered a possible Israeli connection. I did not closely examine the matter, but it looks to me that the bulk of Mr. Unz’s evidence became available after Professor Oliver died in 1994; and although I infer that Professor Oliver seems to have had some friends in the intelligence community, I absolutely do not see any possibility that he could have known top-level secrets about nuclear proliferation issues. It is interesting that Professor Oliver, who believed that there was and is a Jewish conspiracy to conquer the whole Earth, and who assuredly hated Israel, never seems to have considered an Israeli connection in his extensive examinations of the Kennedy assassination.

He did from time to time consider new evidence in his political articles, when such became available. I expect that if Mr. Unz’s theory had been published three decades earlier, an examination thereof probably would have consumed dozens of pages in Liberty Bell.

There is one particular point where I lean more towards Professor Oliver’s theory. Mr. Unz cites some authors who suggest that “harder-line anti-Communists” were somehow involved in the assassination. Professor Oliver firmly believed that the Kennedy assassination’s planners wanted falsely to blame it on “extreme right-wingers”, in the manner of what we would call a false-flag operation (although he did not use that term), but that these plans were derailed by a string of mishaps after the shots were fired. He seems to have had not insignificant evidence of this, although I am not sure how significant it is. By an analogy to today, think of a plot to make a pretext for something like the New Uncle Joe’s “domestic war on terror”.

At a glance, I think it is much more plausible that Oswald really was a Communist, than that “his purported Marxism was merely a very thin disguise”; although I have not looked at the books purporting evidence for that, at first blush, it looks to me like Rube Goldberg type of conspiracy thinking. Obviously, Oswald was a patsy for someone. The personal beliefs of a patsy, who may be misled, do not necessarily prove who put him up to his rôle; but I note that as Professor Oliver often observed, Communism itself is (a) in practice a conspiratorial subversive movement covered by vanguard-party types of activity, and (b) rather infamous for using its believers, then discarding them like worn-out tools.

The assassination took place in Dallas—a very right-wing city, and the home of what was then the nationwide grassroots movement of Indignation Meetings. (How badly history has been memory-holed: Most people here have probably never even heard of Indignation.) Professor Oliver gave a patriotic speech at one of those mass-meetings in Dallas in 1961, at which he declared that the “traitors” running the American government “shall not go unpunished”; he received thundering applause from (if memory serves me) about 5,000 very Indignant, politically active people. If the assassination was planned to be blamed on “extreme right-wingers”, as a pretext for an anti-“right wing” crackdown as Professor Oliver alleged, then Dallas was certainly the place to do it.

I myself have not closely examined the Kennedy assassination question; beyond basically establishing that the official story is idiotic, it is an event not within the realm of my primary interests. I therefore cannot properly pass judgment on the various theories, except to assess each for basic credibility.

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Anyway, what is really important, Miss Iris, is that I understand your dilemma. Either the smart new man publicly scorned, belittled, and humiliated you—or perhaps worse for you, “he” turned out to be she, your superior rival, a queen bee who can tell you to buzz off. Hey, by manosphere standards, all this drama is incontrovertible proof that Raches ain’t a dude! (To point this out, I must be terrifically secure in my manhood.)

The best part is that unless you totally doxed yourself somewhere, there is more public evidence that “Raches” is a girl than that “Iris” is. That should give astute readers pause—both ways. Although I am not hereby accusing “Iris” of being a “he”, I do think that before @Bugey libre leaps so chivalrously to defend the delicate flower Iris from an apparent man, he should remember the proverb: On the Internet, no one knows if you’re a dog.

More than a few female readers here are probably laughing with me—some from behind the safety of ambiguous screen names. The Internet is a tough place, unfortunately.

Moreover, M. Bugey should remember that I politely raised topical questions to you—and you ignored them as you continued repeatedly and unjustifiably to insult me, amidst your ongoing campaign of libelling me. No wonder I am now such a raging bitch to you! (Either that, or I am a dissident psychiatrist manipulating you to make you eat your own dirty, rude, lying tongue; pick your poison. Discourtesy is unspeakably ugly to me.)

by “whole family” I meant the whole family of viruses, all the variants included….

Listen to the exchange at 2:15. Best to watch from the start. If not, start from 2:00. A cult favorite. Wildly overrated IMO, but the lead actor and setting are very appealing.

[Also sprach Raches:] Maybe that was a bit naïf of me,

Why care whether Raches was naïve or not?

Surely, Mr. Hunter knows that as a word borrowed from French, naïf/naïve is gendered. (Professor Oliver was pedantic about this, as about all else.) I would not imagine that Mr. Hunter was passively-aggressively hypercorrecting me. He must be endorsing the “Raches is a girl” theory; and since all the world is now ruled by a democratic epistemology, vox vulgi, Mr. Hunter’s vote counts!

(Another one of my pet peeves: Confusion of blond with blonde.)

*yawn*

Many pro-vaxxers sarcastically ask some version of “So, the vast majority of the world’s leaders are all making the same mistake when it comes to pushing the vaccines?” A retort/explanation is making the rounds: The World Bank made bailout loans contingent on national vaccine mandates.

Just throwing that out there.

https://swprs.org/pfizer-fda-95-deception/

How the US FDA “fully approved” the Pfizer vaccine while still excluding product liability.

How can the US FDA “fully approve” the Pfizer covid vaccine without requiring product liability? As US biosafety expert Dr. Meryl Nass revealed, they simply split the Pfizer vaccine into two products: a branded product (“Comirnaty”), which received a full market license but is currently unavailable in the US (due to “insufficient stocks”); and an unbranded product (“Pfizer/Biontech vaccine”), which is widely available in the US but remains under the existing Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

The result: they use the unavailable branded product to justify politically motivated vaccination mandates, but they may then deliver the unbranded product to avoid any liability for vaccine injuries (there is no liability under EUA, but there is full liability under a market license).

I apologize for this off-topic diversion, but as you can see I find these other topics much more interesting than arguing about vaxxing.

You are more interested in the past than the present. That much is clear.

After all, when analyzing the past, one is not exposed to the “humiliations” of being criticized by those who know better than you. Such an an academic stance is very safe.

Dealing with a fast moving crisis in real-time and attempting to make good-faith efforts to handle the confusing data in the best way one knows how, in order to protect one’s loved ones, opens one up to all sorts of “slights” that might diminish one’s standing.

Reputation Uber Alles, I guess?

Hot damn. I love forums. What a vibe (at 2:15). And your creative vibe splurges as opened with that groovy orchestral arrangement, for the first half of the vid. Nice. I like it.

In a later edition of Piper’s Final Judgement he attributes the donkey quote to William J. Gill, once of the American Security Council, who had believed the Soviets were behind the Kennedy assassination but changed his mind after reading Piper’s book.  However there is this in Chapter 8, “Thick as Thieves”:

One prominent “right wing” journalist of the time, Revilo P. Oliver – then a key figure in the John Birch Society – was actually called before the Warren Commission to elaborate on his controversial and widely-publicized theory that the Soviets had JFK executed because he [JFK] was not doing enough to advance international communism. However, shortly before his death in 1994 Oliver told associates that had he not been so ill, he would have relished the opportunity to write a favorable review of Final Judgment which had just been released earlier in the year. Oliver himself evidently realized that he, too, had been taken in by the [James] Angleton-inspired myth.

Just very quickly, they “approved” the branded ‘Cvofefe’, or what ever it is called – by BioNTech, which has yet to be manufactured.

On this point there was a Dr Malone video (sorry, no link), and he said that the branded product is likely to be slightly different, so manufacturing has yet to commence. (Click on the approval letter)

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine

So for now, technically you can’t be forced to take an FDA “approved” anything still! 😉

(And it has been an excellent resource – like you said, after hundreds of thousands of words over a relatively short time, you run out of new data, so the data driven side (covid sceptics) descended into the mud slinging domain without anything else to say.

Quite sad really, because this is exactly troll long term tactic 101 – make everyone muddy, then set your hair on fire, and scream “we are all the same”!)

You said to Mr. Unz:

You are more interested in the past than the present. That much is clear.

I usually despise it when people toss off a bunch of random quotes in lieu of an argument; but here, I think that a quote is the most appropriate argument.

George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four:

And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’ And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. ‘Reality control’, they called it: in Newspeak, ‘doublethink’.

The intellectual resistance in Holland against the fraud we are subject to is mainly centered on what one could call a video debating center (“Café Weltschmerz”), an alternative tv channel (“blckbx tv”), a bi-weekly (“Gezond Verstand”= “Common Sense”) and a daily (”De andere krant”= “the other paper”) . There are quite a few people involved but a starrole is being played by two retired professors of international relations, Kees van der Pijl and Karel van Wolferen. Van Wolferen edits both “De andere krant” en “Gezond Verstand”. Before his professorship ( at the University of Amsterdam) he had an illustrious journalistic career (Ron has published a piece by him on the downing of MH17). Kees van der Pijl is a prolific author. His book on the pandemic (“A pandemic of fear”) has just been published in English.

What follows is a fragment of a piece by one of the authors in “Gezond Verstand”, the Dutch author Pieter Stuurman (there is no copyright on it)

Anyone who takes the trouble to find out who the main shareholders (and therefore the owners) are of the most important multinationals always ends up with the same institutional investors. Almost all companies in the food industry, technology industry, pharmaceutical industry, automotive industry, global energy companies, but also banks and insurers, are on average about 70% owned by the same club of institutional investment companies. At first glance, there appears to be a reasonably healthy diversity in this. Even the very largest investment corporations often own less than 10% of the multinationals in question on paper, and therefore do not appear to have a decisive majority interest.

But if you look further*, you will notice that all these institutional investors themselves also have shareholders. So they own each other’s shares. If we follow the pyramid upwards, we always come across the same corporations: Blackrock and Vanguard. Not only are they the largest investors, they are also the main shareholders in the other, smaller institutional investors. So together they form a conglomerate that has a majority stake in all the industries on which the world’s population depends for its existence.

And that conglomerate is led by just two dominant players. Looking even further, we see that Blackrock also has shareholders. And the most important of those is Vanguard. And have we then become curious as to who owns Vanguard, we come up against a wall: it is listed as “private.”

So that means that owners of almost all multinationals, form a a small club of private individuals. They form the top of the pyramid and call the shots over a conglomerate of major shareholders, and that conglomerate has a majority stake in all the multinationals that matter, and thus determines their policies. And thus determines all the important money flows in the world. Money flows on which the states and their governments also depend. Virtually all states have negative equity (national debt) and are therefore dependent on the big financiers for their survival. This means that the top of the global power pyramid is formed by a small and unknown group of private individuals, on whom not only the world economy, but also virtually every country depends. They are the most powerful people on earth.

And they do benefit from the collapse of the global economy. Of course, this is not good news for the small shareholders with whom the public can more easily identify. The smaller investors have to rely on short-term speculation and earn an income from trading stocks. In the event of a stock market crash, they lose the value of their “wares. But this is not the case for the major shareholders. Their shares are only worth less (temporarily) on paper. For them, it is not about making quick money. They are concerned with gaining influence and control (power) over the companies on which the world population depends. For whoever controls those companies controls humanity. So the real value remains in their possession.

As the small shareholders are forced to leave the scene, this only increases the dominance of the large shareholders. Every stock market power in history has therefore increased the power and wealth of the major shareholders. They therefore benefit from bringing the market into crisis from time to time, and thereby getting rid of the smaller players who collectively constitute significant competition.

They can now make their move under the guise of a global health crisis. They not only benefit from the collapse of the world economy, but are in a position to cause it. Even after the controlled demolition of the world economy, their hegemony continues. After all, the world population remains dependent for its food, energy and all other necessities of life on the channels controlled by them, and will, just like virtually all governments of all states, have no choice but to dance to their tune. And then there is talk of one world power, under which the entire world population will have to live in serfdom.

Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Yes, I’m well aware of VAERS and studied it very carefully starting in the Spring.
I sourced it this way – https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php

That site is clunky but once you figure it out, it’s okay.
HOWEVER, they don’t have a date sort option. So, once you choose Covid at the top in Box 3, then choose Died in Box 4 and hit Find on the Right…it takes you to lots incidence reports but starting from back in Dec and you can’t reverse the date sequence. So, I stopped accessing it cuz I can’t read the new stuff w/o endless scrolling.

I just did a search on OpenVaers for Covid Vax, 2021, deceased — and all the first reports are from back earlier in the year too. Do you know how to source the more recent reports in that site or any other?

I would like to think that and hope so.

But, and I don’t want to unduly burden or freak you out with this info, however, I have skimmed an NIH study about how they can cleave vaccines into vegetables…as they’re growing, I presume.

I’ve also read a little info online, not alot specific, that vaccines can be atomized. Think like hairspray mist or finer. (I suspect Covid has been sometimes spread that way by bad actors.)

At this point, I’m just pretty convinced they aren’t going to stop, no matter what, and they have other ways to get that damn stuff into us. Although, either of the above would be much further down the road. There are sooooo many other pressure points they can apply before going to that ^^^ trouble.

Apropos of nothing, but as a former Nietzsche acolyte, I would recommend this book to you. In good faith.

Are you angling to be some sentient system’s pet human?

It’s the same in Austfailia. The presstitute vermin routinely refer to ivermectin, which is being demonised as if it was ice or heroin, as a ‘veterinary drug’. One toad, a ‘Doctor’ promoted as an ‘authority’ from the beginning, described it in March 2020, when a local university noted its in vitro effectiveness, as ‘sheep dip’. The FOUR BILLION doses safely dispensed to humans are totally Memory Holed. From these scum’s unparalleled record of lying and disinforming, one knows that it must be effective.

With vaccine protection falling with time, perhaps recently vaccinated should seek infection as “booster” against future variants? I have seen this speculation floating around and for lower risk groups this might make sense.

The government and its Pharma partners would never buy into this. Even with various articles referencing studies showing that natural immunity is much better than mRNA/DNA shot immunity, they continue to push that getting a vaccine booster on top of natural immunity is even better. They will do anything to protect the Pharma profits, politician campagin donations and the money changing hands under the table.

Now on Friday, Biden & Fauci are discussing booster shots EVERY 5 MONTHS! How about an Amazon subscription model?
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Biden, Fauci discuss requiring COVID booster shots every 5 months
August 27, 2021

https://nypost.com/2021/08/27/biden-and-fauci-discuss-covid-19-booster-shots-every-5-months/

The Big Pharma troll crawls out from ‘neath its rock. You’d better hope that there will not be Nuremberg type trials for crimes against humanity in working to push the gene therapy injections and suppress cheap, highly effective and safe medications like ivermectin. The only question left with your type is, are you doing Evil knowingly, or as some brainwashed dope.

Whose problem is it if the airplane you were sold a ticket for doesn’t have enough seats? Yours or the airplane company?

If a million people want to buy tickets to a popular sporting event and the servers crash, whose problem is that? Yours or the company the provides the server service?

If a hospital doesn’t have enough beds, whose problem is that? Yours for getting sick or the hospital for not being able to handle peak demand?

I used to work in the IT world where many companies have performance guarantees with their users. If they can’t deliver a certain level of performance, then they either don’t get paid or have to rebate money. This drives companies to purchase more hardware capacity than they need at most times to leave 20-40% headroom. Doing this costs them millions of extra \$\$ per year.

Hospitals are learning that they need to adopt the same principles.

Latest numbers for Israel and UK multiple of India’s per capita covid daily death rate.

I don’t think you want to get animal grade Ivermectin. I am told that they may contain impurities that may be harmful to humans.

That’s bullcrap, another example of how far the establishment will go to try and force people into doing what they want.

Most people feed their pets and animals better quality food than they eat themselves, with less chemicals. The manufacturers know that people want only the best ingredients for their animals and don’t load their foods with chemicals that humans have to ingest.

Did you every look at the jerky treats sold for dogs? They usually have no more than 2 or 3 ingredients. I’ve eaten dog jerky, its often better than human brands which too often have 5-10 ingredients. And significantly cheaper to boot! The only problem is that sometimes they contain small bone fragments, which can be annoying for humans.

The other day I heard on the news that the state of MS had TWO people who had taken too much Ivermectin and wound up in the hospital. TWO! And they were making a big deal over that number. Meanwhile, I wonder how many heroin or opiate OD’s they had? Whew.

QUESTION ANYTHING YOU HEAR FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT OR THE MSM!

“So, the vast majority of the world’s leaders are all making the same mistake when it comes to pushing the vaccines?” … The World Bank made bailout loans contingent on national vaccine mandates.

I think that’s only part of the story. Klaus Scwab’s power to influence and direct national governments through the levers of the World Economic Forum (WEF), and through his and creepy Bill’s effective control of the World Health Organisation, is way underestimated, even by Mr. Unz.

I apologize for this off-topic diversion, but as you can see I find these other topics much more interesting than arguing about vaxxing.

I am flabbergasted. There is far more involved than that. Not wanting to see that looks like willful blindness.

Living in Australia one can see the fraud evolving under one’s very eyes. Even though we live in regional NSW, far from the so-called “outbreaks”in Sydney, we are currently not allowed to move further than five kms from our home and then only for “essential” things such as shopping for groceries or “essential exercise”. And we are not allowed to do shopping together.

Visitors are not allowed.

I don’t even know whether the 9-5 curfew applies to us because vagueness in the details seems to be part of the overall scheme.

And how many deaths did we have in NSW (a state of 8 million people): 143 since the beginning of this pandemic:143. And these deaths were for the greater part probably with Covid rather than because of it. And lest you think that this low number is due to the lockdowns think again. Last year we had hardly any lockdowns in NSW. In Victoria however there was one after another. And yet Victoria’s mortality rate was then about 15 times higher than that of NSW, though decidedly still very modest compared internationally.

Last year Australioa as a whole had under mortality and that is likely to be the case again thist year.

And why this whole charade? To pressure people into accepting the jab which has turned out to be both ineffective and dangerous.

If you think this all has to do with public health my question is why your usual scepticism towards generally acepted tales seems to have suddenly deserted you as far as this matter is concerned

I like the view from where you are standing Kali.

1. Masking is not a zero cost/harm option and intervention, to the contrary.
2. In practice, masking doesn’t make any positive medical difference at all, only negative ones.
This is the case because no one uses them correctly. The vast majority wear them multiple times, filthy, picked out of the bag/pocket or from the rearvieew mirror, under the nose, under the chin etc.. No one got fitted for their 95 mask, although that would be essential for them to work and show the properties you listed. N95 masks also come with strict max. usage time and pause restrictions, which are suddenly completely ignored. Each mask must immediately be exchanged once moist, which would be the case after speaking more than 2 sentences. To exchange it, one would have to wash hands3x per exchange, and have a sterilized mask handy.

Therefore:
Masks are Gessler’s hats, nothing else.
And on top of that, they are harmful ones to the wearer/greeter.
But maybe, that’s also deliberate, just as all other restrictions, mandates, PIs, lack of PIs and NPIs had and will have only one medical effect: reducing the average life expectancy of the plebs.

Well, we know from Mr. Lukashenko in Belarus that they ensured a uniform lockdown initial response to the “pandemic” by using the loans as bribes. This would be a continuation of that project to subjugate populations. When you say making the rounds — where’s this info coming from?

I believe our government employs at least one economist. So far, I have not seen one cost/benefit analysis on their actions concerning this virus. Have I missed something? Why should I interact with the medical community when I have no wish to? Why should I be required to protect other people by putting myself at risk? Why the sudden interest in me and my wellbeing on the part of those who would benefit from my passing (I’m retired, a useless eater)?
I am put to mind an old Chinese curse. May you come to the attention of the authorities.

“Indviduals who believed themselves opponents of totalitarianism and immune to a totalitarian impulse today desire, whether or not it will be obtained, that the Federal Government of the United States institute an internal passport regime on the basis of vaccination status. Whether by the force or the affirmative counsel of Federal authority, should such come to pass in this country as it has in other liberal democracies, we shall mark the date as that on which citizenship was cleansed of what remained of its meaning.”

Amen.
And that the constantly moralising so called ‘liberals’ or ‘progressives’, left, center, center left, center right and greens are the most vehement practicioners and proponents of this segregation and discrimination makes it even more perverse.

Actually, if Madame Hanfstaengl hadn’t had some martial knowledge you hero would never have been Reichfürher… Women can be very effective warriors. Some women in Africa (Niger to my personnal knowledge and experience with Beri-Beri) are also very keen to defend themselves and are tought how to use a knife they are given when becoming adults.

Madame Leni Riefenstahl have done one of the best book about an African people, the Nouba of Ko, before the Sudanese mayhem destroyed their culture with AK 47… She amended herself (lol) and was quite impressed by their genuine”power of will”…

And due to the very flawed nature of pharmaco-vigilancy as it exists, the numbers of Vaers datas are at least underestimated by a factor of 10. In France, the local datas are kept hidden by the usurpators and serious researchers are obliged to use datas from abroad… It is catastrophic.

Meanwhile, as for the situation on the ground in Australia, I recall a commenter in UR saying (or words to this effect), that we Aussies had capitulated to the Covid tyranny and were prostrating ourselves to our governmental overlords.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Let me give you some background information before showing you a 1 min video .

The whole east coast of Australia is under hard lockdown (the three largest states comprising two-thirds of the population). Concurrent with that, restrictions are in force like not being able to travel further than 5km away from your home – unless you’re deemed an essential worker.

Well, there was a lot of pushback from people involved in relationships that lived further than 5km from each other with associated psychological blow-back that led to suicidal tendencies.

So the government relented and as long as you nominate your intimate partner beforehand, you’re allowed to visit them under the ‘One-on-One Bubble’ exemption.

You’ll hear that term in the video below as a police constable busts a truckie for a mask violation (you Yanks call them truckers), who is with his buddy or co-worker.

Enjoy:

Now I ask you, how many of your countrymen have the guts to talk to police that way in your part of the world ?

Aussies can get away with that because a lot of Aussie coppers know the Covid psyop is bullshit.
There have been resignations galore and/or coppers refusing to enforce a lot of the government edicts.

MOREOVER, there is already a breakaway movement within the police force here in NSW (largest state of Oz), that is coalescing and building in numbers, I have been told, that is threatening to derail this totalitarianism.

Watch this space – things are building up to a climax in Oz and if this lockdown B.S / talk of mandatory vaxxes and passports is not binned for good, the excrement is going to hit the fan in short order.

Without adequatly respecting the existing protocol for their use, which is hard/impossible to apply on a daily basis for a very very large majority of the people, these masks are useless. Furthermore, because they have to be replaced every two hours before losing their efficacy (providing you didn’t touch it inbetween), how many of these should be used globally? Billions.

When dealing with contaminated patients it is also seriously advised to use hermetic glasses because viruses can “jump” trough the eyes. How many glasses should be produced? Providing they are adapted to the different features of different visage…

Finaly, masks must be adapted to the faces of the wearer. Masks designed for Asian don’t work on most Caucasians and there exists no N95 adapted to children…

Laughingly crazy, isn’t it?

And our children are supposed to wear unusefull face muzzle all day long… Saddly crazy, isn’t it?

I have to give credit to Johnson & Johnson for one of those ‘alignment-of-the-planets’ rare occasions when he gets one right (although not for the false reasons that he’s propagating).

J & J wrote:

‘Well I predicted early on that the hospitals would be overcrowded again thanks to Delta ripping through the unvaccinated and I was accused here by anti-vaxxers for spreading hype. ‘

Now, let’s get something straight.

I NEVER accused J & J of spreading hype. I would never have the audacity to stoop to that.

No, what I said was:

You’re a BALD-FACED LIAR who posts shit-for-brains comments.

So, let’s look a little deeper into why some hospitals are beginning to get overcrowded and why there’s likely to be more of it.

Let’s start with this article titled ‘Houston Methodist Hospital fires more than 150 employees who refused to get vaccinated’:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-06-28-houston-methodist-hospital-fires-unvaccinated-employees.html

So let’s approach this from an Economics standpoint and focus on the ‘Law of Supply and Demand’.

Under normal circumstances, the ‘Demand’ for medical services (ie: quantity of sick individuals) is not great and the ‘Supply (the number of qualified nurses and doctors) is more than sufficient to cover any eventuality.

However, the cabal that’s orchestrating the Covid psyop has issued draconian terms of employment whereby No Vaxx = No Job.

This is BY DESIGN.

By reducing the number of medical professionals, ipso facto this creates an excess burden on the few staff that remain – and hence ‘hospitals are overcrowded’, as rightly stated by the man named after the Big Pharma behemoth that’s funding him to peddle disinfo.

Is it any wonder J & J that you’re known in several continents (UR is read widely throughout the world), as one of the founders of the ‘Axis of Disinformation’ – along with Raches, Utu and ThatWouldBeTrolling.

J & J, you are one …. very … disgusting man.

That would be telling is a common phrase used by British children who refuse to reveal a secret, it is also used as a form of manipulation as in, I know something you don’t know.

Unz should give a platform to Alex Berenson who’s just been kicked off of Twitter for publishing “misinformation” about the virus, usually quoting published studies.

Whatever Unz may think about the virus and the vaccines, this is THE major political topic of our time. It’s a hell of a lot bigger than Afghanistan or even racial issues at the moment. And people who are considered so dangerous by the establishment as to receieve such bans should be heard.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/twitter-permanently-bans-alex-berenson-after-viral-tweets

Yesterday I went to an the house of an acquaintance to play Scrabble.
I told her truthfully that I had not been vaccinated, and she didn’t gasp or say, In that case you can’t come, but she did insist that we play outdoors. She has a lovely garden and patio area with tables, so that was OK. Even though it was starting to get dark.

She would not allow me into her (very large) house.

We did chat briefly about shots, as she will be taking a longish trip soon. She hoped she would be adequately protected with the shots she has had, and will have a booster in November.

So I said, if she should catch covid, there are effective treatments, such as ivermectin.

That shocked her!! “Invermectin [sic]! That is very dangerous. We have been warned not to take that. . . . I am not going to take something used as a dewormer for horses . . . I am following the advice provided by the CDC, and our other government agencies. . . . I am not one to look for alternative sources of information.”

I interspersed a few comments such as “Ivermectin is being used to good effect in a number of countries . . . There seem to be two universes of information about this disease and the shots and also treatments . . . there are a number of treatment protocols that seem to work. . . It has been announced by the healthy ministry in Japan that all covid cases will be treated with ivermectin . . . There is such a thing as off-label uses that gradually become accepted and ultimately get FDA approval . . . etc. ”

I hope I planted a seed in the mind of this very intelligent woman, graduate of a top women’s college, who has also worked with nonprofits in Latin America. Perhaps her trip to Europe with will open her mind to some new views. Or, perhaps her friends there think exactly as she does.

It would be interesting to keep a running tab on the number of words with which Mlle Raches bogs down these threads.

Re (“Discourtesy is unspeakably ugly to me.)”
Perhaps Raches has her personal definition of discourtesy.

My definition includes snark, openly patronizing comments and snide personal attacks and insulting “psychologizing.” (I hope that is not a trigger for another lengthy spurt of verbal diarrhea! Deploy umbrellas!)

These snide styles also are major distractions that derail actual discussion.

Stick to the subject.

I read through your comment unconscious of who had written it, Polemos, with increasing gratitude.

When I hit “reply” in order to express that gratitude I was warmed, but not surprized, to see that the writter was you.

Thank you very much Brother/Sister Polmos, for your Light.

With much Love.

Naneste: “the Divine in me Bows to the Divine in you”.
Kali.

By vaxxed you mean mRNA vaxxed.

I want to get ‘Vaxxed’ but can’t. I would like to get an old fashioned inactivated virus vaccine using old fashioned adjuvants. One is available, Sinopharm. I can’t get it because the Federal government of the US of A refuses to allow Chinese vaccines.

The Delta variant, while highly contagious, is not near as deadly as the original. If it confers immunity to the whole family, isn’t [an infection party] the one we would want to get?

Assuming you’re right about immediate mortality which I currently doubt but don’t yet have an informed opinion on, how do the “side effect” profiles, the morbidity of Delta and the vaccines compare? Are you one of the people who are concerned about spike protein pathology?

The result: they use the unavailable branded product to justify politically motivated vaccination mandates, but they may then deliver the unbranded product to avoid any liability for vaccine injuries (there is no liability under EUA, but there is full liability under a market license).

Seems perfectly legit to me. No sign of nefarious motives, whatsoever.

Why, Big Pharma is as pure as the driven snow. I simply can’t understand why these anti-vaxxers are so reluctant to have a needle “plunged” into them, as that upright humanitarian, Alan Douchbagowitz, so eloquently put it.

Speaking of eloquently putting things, I was just perusing an article written a few years ago by our very own good host, Ron Unz, that is currently posted on Russian Insider.

Ron does an excellent job explaining how complicit the media was in helping the Bush administration deceive the American people into believing Saddam was responsible for 9/11.

Excerpts from, The Case That 9/11 Was an Israeli Attack on the US Is ‘Overwhelmingly Strong’ – Ron Unz:

At first I couldn’t believe what was taking place, simply awed by the breathtaking power and dishonesty of “our American Pravda,” with the establishment media so easily transforming black into white and night into day. Once again, quoting from my original article of that title:

… True facts were easily available to anyone paying attention in the years after 2001, but most Americans do not bother and simply draw their understanding of the world from what they are told by the major media, which overwhelmingly—almost uniformly—backed the case for war with Iraq; the talking heads on TV created our reality…

For most Americans, reality is whatever our media organs tell us, and since these have largely ignored the facts and adverse consequences of our wars in recent years, the American people have similarly forgotten…

Author James Bovard has described our society as an “attention deficit democracy,” and the speed with which important events are forgotten once the media loses interest might surprise George Orwell…

We live in a world of illusions generated by our media, and I suddenly felt that I had noticed a tear in the paper-mache mountains displayed in the background of a Hollywood sound-stage. If Osama was probably not the author of 9/11, what other huge falsehoods had I blindly accepted?..

When media organs serve as ideological gatekeepers, a condition of widespread ignorance becomes unavoidable.

https://russia-insider.com/en/case-911-was-israeli-attack-us-overwhelmingly-strong-ron-unz/ri24931

After penning these extremely insightful words, one would think such a man would be extremely cautious about what any future administration would be pushing onto the public with the help of that complicit media.

And recall that Mr. Unz, to his credit, had even put to his readers the following question:

If Osama was probably not the author of 9/11, what other huge falsehoods had I blindly accepted?

Well , fast forward a couple of years since that article was written and we find ourselves reading that when it comes to the Corona Attacks, we should take the current administration and the complicit media, regarding the safety of an experimental vaxxine and the need for mandatory passports, at their word.

How can one explain this unexpected turn of events?

Well, if you had read the article from which I just quoted closely enough, you’d realize that Mr Unz conveniently left himself an out:

Now I am obviously just an amateur in the complex intelligence craft of extracting nuggets of truth from a mountain of manufactured falsehood…

Translation: “Don’t blame me for being duped this time. After all, it’s complicated, goy!”

Vax pushers chatter endlessly, but they are only interested in one question…

Do you support mandatory vaxxing or not?

If yes, then you may continue to chatter with them as much as you like.

If no, then you are banned and fired.

This is all about POWER — i.e. bending others to vax pushers’ will.

There is nothing they hate more than people who simply want to be left alone.

Frontline Doctors advises against using animal-grade Ivermectin.

“WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), a group of highly published, world-renowned critical care physicians and scholars, is troubled by the recently updated consumer guidance on Ivermectin from the FDA. The guidance from the FDA is misleading and has the potential to raise unwarranted concern over an important drug in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19.

We support the FDA’s direction that humans should never take medication formulations meant for animals. We also agree that self-dosing of medications without the guidance of a physician is potentially dangerous and could cause serious harm.

However, the FLCCC feels that other statements recently made by the FDA are misleading and serve to alarm the public about using Ivermectin as a treatment prescribed by a physician. . . . ”

Read in full:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/FLCCC-Alliance-Statement-on-Misleading-FDA-Guidance-on-Ivermectin-March7-2021.pdf

By vaxxed you mean mRNA vaxxed.

I want to get ‘Vaxxed’ but can’t. I would like to get an old fashioned inactivated virus vaccine using old fashioned adjuvants. One is available, Sinopharm. I can’t get it because the Federal government of the US of A refuses to allow Chinese vaccines.

Do “traditional” vaccines not include the very first one, that gave us the name from variolae vaccinae, Latin for smallpox of the cow? All “active” vaccines, ones that hijack cells like the mRNA ones do, trace their heritage back to that very first one for smallpox.

You have a number of inactivated whole virus vaccines to choose from, I’m not even sure if any include adjuvants, and if India hadn’t imposed an export embargo you’d be advised to look closely at Bharat Biotech’s Covaxin. But you’ve got the cause and effect of “allowing” backwards. While it’s entirely possible “the US of A” would refuse to authorize a PRC vaccine on political grounds, first Sinopharm et. al. would have to make Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) applications, and at least a couple of entities that we though might do that declined after doing US based FDA strength Phase III trials, most notably AZ/Oxford and Novavax. The PRC/CCP would also have to allow inspects of the relevant factories, and that’s perhaps unlikely; it’s certainly been an issue with Sputnik V.

Now, if the law is followed there will be no more EUAs for vaccines, entities will have to do the usual Biologics License Application, however much that process has been weakened by the “Biden” administration (no advisory committee meeting for the approval of Pfizer/BioNTech, only the prior one for its EUA).

Thanks for the video Bugey (comment # 181) – very entertaining.

My Russian is very rusty so apologies if I get the title of the video wrong. I translate it as:

‘Kazachya Lezginka – O Rada, Rada (Anastasia Lantera)’.

Kazachya = Cossacks and that’s the extent of my translation.

Mike Springmann is a good man – with a lot of common sense to boot.

Meanwhile, just finished watching the latest FFWN and enjoyed seeing Lucy Morgan Edwards there.

BTW, when is Tony Hall coming back on ? I’ve always liked hearing his balanced and objective viewpoints.

“I told her truthfully that I had not been vaccinated [sic], and she didn’t gasp or say, In that case you can’t come, but she did insist that we play outdoors.”

She did you a favor – I now insist that anything but short interactions with The Pricked be done outdoors. Several times I have socialized for hours indoors among The Pricked and then felt ill for the next 18 hours or so, like I was coming down with a cold or flu. My girlfriend the nurse has felt this as well**. It is obvious The Pricked shed poisonous spike proteins months after their second Pricking. I once laughed at allegations that The Pricked shed their poison – I don’t laugh now.

** My gf the nurse will lose her career this October as Kate Hitler decreed all medical pros in Oregon be injected repeatedly with poison. She is ok with that; she is literally sick and tired from daily exposure to The Pricked.

thank you, ron unz, your temperance, patience & ability to view both sides, all sides, & encourage & allow others to do the same is a very mix, indeed. i appreciate you have created & allow this blog, your blog, to continue to be a platform for questions, & a venue for the search for truth. you are as near to our hypatia in these very strange & some say crucial end days. thank you for over-looking some of the rudeness of your guests, other hosts are not as broad minded or far seeing. above all it seems you approve the search for facts & truth & are broad minded enough to see the vessel isn’t so important as the wine. thank you.

That’s bullcrap, another example of how far the establishment will go to try and force people into doing what they want.

You may be right, however, while I am convinced that the so-called vaccine will harm me, and while the evidence from the use of Ivermectin in India is quite convincing to its efficacy as a treatment for Covid, I don’t have any data to give me confidence that the animal version of Ivermectin is equal to the human version, so I feel more comfortable going with the latter in these times of uncertainty. In my case, saving a few bucks wasn’t a priority. Others may conclude differently.

Vax pushers chatter endlessly, but they are only interested in one question…

Do you support mandatory vaxxing or not?

If yes, then you may continue to chatter with them as much as you like.

If no, then you are banned and fired.

Some of us “vax pushers” can’t be fired, we’re old enough to be retired and generally untouchable. Although I haven’t come across what you’re implicitly claiming, that there’s a loyalty test being applied.

For that matter, how come the anti-vaxxers, the ones who make their position on this crystal clear by refusing to get vaccinated, aren’t get fired from their jobs, at least not yet in large numbers? That may well change, but where I live it would be totally impractical for most companies which couldn’t afford to lose perhaps half their employees in an already tight labor market.

(My position that it’s premature to make decisions on this prior to a vaccine getting approved had a spanner thrown into it by “Biden’s” FDA’s illegitimate approval of Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine.)

The following sage words courtesy of a South African ex-pat now living in Australia, in relation to the ongoing implications of mass vaccination:

Vaccinations = still keep your masks on.
Vaccinations = social distancing remains
Vaccinations = continual boosters as their efficacy declines within months
Vaccinations = Apartheid (been there)
Vaccinations = medical control over government
Vaccinations = still getting infected
Vaccinations = lowered innate response, many times more vulnerable to viral interference
Vaccinations = chasing the “dream” of herd immunity, vaccines causing a cycle of new variants
Vaccinations = lockdowns might not go away
Vaccinations = The anxiety of “what am I really getting injected with?”
Vaccinations = cops chasing vax-evaders whilst the paedophiles go child predating
Vaccinations = a paranoid and divided society
Vaccinations = vaccine injuries and deaths
Vaccinations = listening to the endless cycle of bullsh*t on the news
Vaccinations = sterile girls for a future barren world

I find these other topics much more interesting than arguing about vaxxing.

There’s nothing to argue about regarding the COVID vaccines. Either you respect informed consent or you don’t. Either you respect the scientific method or you don’t. Either you respect constitutionally guaranteed rights or you don’t.

You don’t.

Don’t worry Man, I didn’t understand it myself (lol) but I understand movements doing it with nagaïka, the Russian whip.

I guess it is to announce a competition of Russian Cossaks Women, to know who would slice “vaccine enforcers” doing the more numerous bit and pieces of the daring poisoners….

Children are supposed to go back to school in occupied France this week. My younger daughter is heartbroken because she won’t go. My arguments for school authorities are based on my precedent comment about N95 masks. Since only those are effective against that ‘black plague’, it is clear that the child won’t change it every two hours (the protocole take at leats 10 mn)after having been inspected permanently so that she won’t touch it with her hands and that furthermore, I haven’t found N95 adapted to children, she is much safer at home. I deeply regret that she won’t have the benefits of social life but she is about to go in a new school where she would anyway meet the others muzzled so it’s not that important.

Furthermore, as more and more people organize around associations like “parents en colère” they will meet other children regularly and maybe the kung fu professor won’t be obliged to teach internal kung fu with masked children.

Be strong, don’t bow, stand up! “We are together”

I’m always curious what people who say there is no such thing as SARS-CoV-2 as it’s never been isolated think about when they see these kinds of images. Could we hear from some of you what you think about when you see these images?

I don’t deny the existence of something tangibly associated with ‘SARS-CoV-2’, nor believe a single word or picture of the obvious whores and liars of the state/pharma parasite. They long ago pissed away any benign credulity of observers (e.g. ‘cases!’). I see in their breathless coordinated hype the same childish attempts at deception of post-9/11/2001 opportunism—another scam easily seen through at the time. The state will easily prevail when they’ve removed my ability to look outside my window; if it were not for ‘information’ beamed in by ridiculously interested sources, and the presence of masks/signs, I would not know of the existence of the alleged pandemic. Powerful stuff!

Anything state propagandists say, I figure the opposite is as likely, except when they’re trying to hoodwink by using the observer’s rightful skepticism against him. Those pictures are, in context, likely less than useless in finding truth.

Side note, I marvel at the utterly pussified flabby stuff apparently composing most of the UR sounders. Charge into the microbes, fags, and may the fit prevail. Put down that bag of Doritos and torch your TV—step 1. It’s a good day to die.

Complementing a comment made earlier by Iris, I offer this translation made by a friend:

https://www.byoblu.com/2021/08/21/meluzzi-molti-vaccinati-vip-hanno-fatto-falsi-vaccini-lhanno-proposto-anche-a-me

One cannot undergo vaccination against Covid-19 with modesty or discretion like all the others; it needs to be displayed as an example, it needs bombastic words that touch the hearts of the most reticent. “The vaccine is an act of love,” said a few days ago by the Pope, following in the tracks of Sergio Mattarella, who defines it as “a duty, the single effective instrument.”

But even as the people [il popolo] clash and divide against themselves ever further with the argument over vaccination, even as the shadow of mandatory vaccination extends itself ever more menacingly over Italy, there remains the question [il dubbio] whether those who from the highest places preach the common good are themselves actually vaccinated.

A fair question to which it is really quite difficult to give an answer, even as social media and television endlessly return us to the images [immagini] of Mattarella’s first dose or the photo [foto] of all Zingaretti’s doses. Although it is no secret that everything can be artfully contrived, especially a photograph or a video. Last month, Professor Alessandro Meluzzi, in a conference in San Marino, fired a very strong statement that has gone almost entirely unaccounted for: “The better part of those who have been vaccinated, from a certain sphere forward, have taken false vaccines. I will certify this because it has been offered to me, too.”

Reached by telephone, Professor Meluzzi reaffirmed the statement, stressing that he had heard from many doctors and authoritative sources that “it is not difficult to get a vaccine with distilled water, or a fake certification. In a colossal imbroglio like the one in which we are now living, it seems to me that this is almost altogether normal.”

La vaccinazione contro il Covid-19 non può avvenire sommessamente, come tutte le altre, ha bisogno di essere portata ad esempio, ha bisogno di parole altisonanti che arrivino al cuore dei più renitenti. “Il vaccino è un atto d’amore“, ha detto pochi giorni fa il Papa, seguito a ruota da Sergio Mattarella, che lo definisce “un dovere, unico strumento efficace“.

Ma mentre il popolo si scontra e si divide sempre di più sull’argomento vaccinazione, mentre l’ombra dell’obbligatorietà si allunga sempre più minacciosa sull’Italia, resta il dubbio se coloro che a piani altissimi predicano il bene comune, si siano effettivamente vaccinati.

Un dubbio lecito al quale è davvero molto difficile dare una risposta, mentre i social e le televisioni ci restituiscono le immagini della prima dose di Mattarella o le foto di tutte le dosi di Zingaretti. Anche se non è un mistero che tutto può essere costruito ad arte, soprattutto una fotografia o un video. Lo scorso mese il Professor Alessandro Meluzzi in un Convegno organizzato a San Marino ha lanciato una dichiarazione molto forte che è passata quasi del tutto inosservata: “Buona parte di quelli che si sono vaccinati, da una certa sfera in avanti, hanno fatto falsi vaccini. Ve lo certifico perché lo hanno proposto anche a me”.

Raggiunto al telefono, il professor Meluzzi ha ribadito la questione, sottolineando di aver avuto notizia da molti medici e da fonti autorevoli che “non è difficile farsi fare un vaccino con acqua distillata, o una certificazione fasulla. In un colossale imbroglio come quello che stiamo vivendo, mi sembra anzi che sia quasi del tutto normale“.

Perhaps he’s just trying to grab attention, as it’s only the one man stepping forward to describe what happens among those “in-the-know.” No doubt there is temptation to accept such an offer —and consider the ease with which such an offer sits on the table given how corruption and mendacity and self-centeredness are endemic among those whose lust for power and influence took them deep into the shadow and the black worlds— and no doubt even the poor and the suburban and the hobbled will face their own variations of this same temptation to lie one’s way into conformity, without clandestine or alterior purpose, without duty to Cause requiring subterfuge, solely for survival and just one more turn in this life.

Just remember that Slugworth ultimately worked for Willy Wonka and was acting. He was there as quality control. Whoever chooses from the quality of their heart will find their choice rewarded. If you make a mistake, just give the Everlasting Gobstopper back.

Greetings and respect to your girlfriend. Yesterday, our demonstration changed it’s course and we went to the local hospital to show support to the healthcare workers. Health care workers are getting organised everywhere. Last week, in one city, nurses burned their diplomas and professional clothes to show their deep ressentment

Two tribunals in France have already ruled out the ‘passe totalitaire’ as illegal because people wouldn’t have access to food… We should never give up.

Take care

A person thinks of the millions(?) who will read that article and believe it without question. If the person has a soul, he weeps.

I forgot to give you another news from the frontline of health autonomy. Yesterday we made a beautifull harvest of artemisia sinensis annua, you know, the antiviral plant that is officialy use with great benefits for the population in Madagascar. The benefits being much less for the pharmafia, as you must know, the local President have experienced a coup d’état attempt.

A part of our stach is for my 76 years old mother who refuses defiantly and adamtly to be inoculated.

What does it do, btw? I bought some just to have, but haven’t integrated it in any plans. I figure if they’re banning it, I want some.

•Thank you for the inspiration to look around! This article has many links to further articles to search to inform us about this concept and how far along development is . . .

Plant Edible Vaccines: A Revolution in Vaccination
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7120501/

Abstract
Plants have been used as a source for many pharmaceutical since long. However, utilization of plant systems for production of edible vaccines has been a comparatively recent phenomenon. There are several potential advantages of plant derived vaccines over other conventional systems of vaccine production such as mammalian or avian cell culture. The cost of vaccines is one factor preventing further use of vaccination, leaving hundreds of thousands of children susceptible to preventable diseases. Especially for developing world this novel technique proved to be a boon for its low cost of production, convenient administration, easy storage and negligible chances of infection whereas the conventional system of vaccine production limits the applicability of vaccines in many parts of the world. These vaccines are prepared by introducing selected desired genes into plants and inducing these genetically modified plants to manufacture the encoded proteins. Transgenic plants may provide an ideal expression system, in which transgenic plant material can be fed directly as oral dose of recombinant vaccines. Expression of vaccines in plant tissue eliminates the risk of contamination with animal pathogen, provides a heat stable environment and enables oral delivery thus eliminating infection related hazards. Identification of transgenic material, containment of the transgenes and control of recombinant protein may be potential problems for large scale production of vaccines in plants. Factors like scaling up production as well as distribution and handling of transgenic plant material must comprise the future consideration in this field.

Also, more broadly:

Plants as bioreactors: Recent developments and emerging opportunities
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7125752/

In recent years, the use of plants as bioreactors has emerged as an exciting area of research and significant advances have created new opportunities. The driving forces behind the rapid growth of plant bioreactors include low production cost, product safety and easy scale up. As the yield and concentration of a product is crucial for commercial viability, several strategies have been developed to boost up protein expression in transgenic plants. Augmenting tissue-specific transcription, elevating transcript stability, tissue-specific targeting, translation optimization and sub-cellular accumulation are some of the strategies employed. Various kinds of products that are currently being produced in plants include vaccine antigens, medical diagnostics proteins, industrial and pharmaceutical proteins, nutritional supplements like minerals, vitamins, carbohydrates and biopolymers. A large number of plant-derived recombinant proteins have reached advanced clinical trials. A few of these products have already been introduced in the market.

As for vaccine atomization, this seems helpful for grasping benefits and pitfalls of attempting to vacccinate through spray:

Developments in the formulation and delivery of spray dried vaccines
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5647985/

For our future reference, what I did to find these articles is something any one of us can do, too. Just clear out everything after .gov in these URLs and use the search box at the top. For the transgenic plants articles, I searched for ‘vaccine plant splice’ and it came up with at least 130 candidates. For atomized vaccines, I searched for ‘atomized vaccine’. You can be as narrow or as broad as you wish to find articles on themes you’re searching for. Thank you, again, The Real World, for the encouragement to look.

Happy hunting, y’all! 🎯

I will be watching for your comments with updates regarding the situ in Australia, Truth V.

Thanks in advance.

I don’t profess to be as worldly-wise as you my friend and am not familiar with the artemisia annua plant.
I’ll have to look into it.

Meanwhile, this video just in from the Aussie Cossack:

It seems that a Covid testing clinic was burned down in Sydney’s west today.
It may well have been a False Flag and been set on fire by the police, as a pretext to enable the coppers to crack a few more skulls.

Or, it may indeed have been conducted by citizens who refuse to put up with the oppression.

All I can say is that Australians will not put up with the B.S for long.

Sadly, I think you are correct.
After highlighting the study I cited above, ex New York Times reporter Alex Berneson was banned permanently from Twitter. If I remember correctly this is the second time he is banned from the platform for citing new studies. Last time he was let back in after some confusion.

With friends like Twitter, the pro-vaxx campaign doesn’t need enemies. Actions like this are not going to convince anyone in the other camp to get vaxxed.

From afar the situation in the U.S. looks likes ‘the lunatics have taken over the asylum’.

Same. And I don’t know, exactly. Reduces the risk of mechanical ventilation, I’ve heard.

And significantly cheaper to boot!

Last I checked twenty of these ridiculous 3 mg tablets of ivermectin cost \$30 down at CVS. That’s 2-1/2 doses for a big guy like me. Add to that whatever the online doc charges for a prescription.

Compare \$9.99 for a 6.08 g tube of 1.87% ivermectin “Apple Flavored” paste down at the pet shop, a full five doses, and they don’t ask any questions at the counter. The applicator is graduated in lbs body weight for 0.2 mg/kg dosing. A friend in the construction trades squirts it out by the inch, 36 mg/in I think but please do your own calcs. The only downside I’ve experienced is the horrible apple flavor.

Related to the MS ivermectin ODs…

The Mississippi DOH confirms today that at least 70% of the recent calls to poison control in the state have been related to ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers.
Where the heck did people get the idea to do that?? pic.twitter.com/Fe66D0zWV5

— Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) August 21, 2021

Propaganda doesn’t get any dumber than this.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fda-horse-dewormer-covid-fox-news-1215168/

So, if a person had a Twitter account, and they also had a website, and on that website they revealed skepticism about the Covid vaccines–and became known as an “anti-vaxxer”–might that make it more likely that they’d get kicked off of Twitter?

Look, the rich liberals get a lot of bad press but it’s good to see prominent Democrats setting a good example of how to stage a Covid-safe party in the midst of a pandemic.

Barack Obama gives his pal Jimmy Dore a call in the interview below, and demonstrates why he’s so admired for his humility and empathy for the downtrodden across the globe:

Barack Obama – a real man’s man (which explains why his spouse is a man).

No sooner had you asked, here is the update of the latest from down under (refer to comment 215).

Thanks Skep. I read all your comments and appreciate all you’ve said to date.

The next upcoming wonder-jab–Novovax–is the third type of clot shot, the “subunit protein vaccine”.

Like Russia’s EpiVac, Taiwan’s new Medigen, China’s Anhui (which they’re trying out on Uzbekistan)
https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/country/uzbekistan/

So for now the West and its vassals have two types of kike-spike serums: Rna and Adenoviral, and soon will the third type-subunit protein.

WHY NO TRAD VAX?

It’s been a long time now. Even if at first they perhaps honestly believed the clot-shots provide better protection and less side-effects, now it’s obvious that the situation is the opposite. Why no trad vax?

Every member state of the US or Canada or Australia, every member state of the EU could produce one tomorrow. Turkey, Kazakhstan, Iran and Cuba made themselves ones. Why not the West.

I do not believe this is a minor issue. To the contrary, this is one enormous blind spot that is mentioned by no one anywhere. Why does no western state (with the exception of Hungary) neither produce nor import a trad vax?

Something smells really really rotten.

Mandatory “vaccination” is the great question of our times. The reality is that the “vaccines” are unnecessary, dangerous, and do not work anyway. You can easily prove that for yourself with minimal research. The sham is shallow. If healthy and already immune people can be coerced into succumbing to this thing, then what is left of any liberty, minority rights, science, and sanity?

First, natural immunity is almost certainly permanent and impenetrable. Three recent studies – from Cleveland, Israel, and the UK Office of National Statistics – show this clearly. All three report zero or low rates of reinfection among the previously infected. The few suspected cases of reinfection most likely correspond to PCR false-positives, or two different illnesses caught by the catch-all PCR. Whatever the case, at worst, clearly natural immunity is far superior to anything the “vaxx” offers. The CDC estimated in the spring that a third of the population has a had the virus. Hence a third of the population does not need the vaccines due to natural immunity.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v3.full
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveytechnicalarticleanalysisofreinfectionsofcovid19/june2021
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

Next, healthy young people are invulnerable to the virus anyway. You can check the numbers for yourself. Only about 6000 under 35 have died from the virus out of ~600k fatalities in the US – and those were spectacularly obese or extremely sick from something like cancer. For healthy people under 35, a priori the virus poses no treat. That’s also a third of the population.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku

Next, even for the frail, treatments exist. You can easily look up three different treatments applied by elite frontline doctors – those by Dr. Kory, Dr. Zelenko, and Dr. McCullough. Kory and McCullough are well-published, and all three are actually taking care of patients. Their treatments are now backed by dozens of papers. Mortality could have been reduced by 90% as early as last summer. Reduce mortality by an order of magnitude, and you have 60k deaths in the US – along the lines of the flu, and no reason for lockdowns etc. Of course people will die if they get no treatment! Even a flesh wound can get infected if not cleaned.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7410805/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14787210.2020.1808462
https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/treatment-protocol/

We never needed the “vaxx”. Treatments exist, the young are invulnerable, and at least a third of the population is already immune.

Next, the “vaxx” is dangerous. VAERS currently reports in the order of 10k deaths. This is an obvious undercount, since it takes 30 min and a doctor’s credentials to log in a report – if one knows about the system and is willing to go against the grain. As a ballpark, suppose the real count is 3-5x greater, and put the deaths at ~30-50k. This coincides with what a whistleblower claimed a few weeks ago. It also corresponds with the rise in unexplained deaths in the CDC’s own mortality statistics – column “Symptoms, signs and abnormal clinical and laboratory findings, not elsewhere classified (R00-R99)” here: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Provisional-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-S/muzy-jte6/data
Apart from the deaths, people get debilitating injuries. How many? Anyone’s guess. But if in war you get ~1-3 (?) wounded for every fatality, call it 40-120k disabled by the “vaxx” on top of the 30-50k dead.

The correct comparison is not “CDC’s [clearly biased] safety claims compared to the expected death rates given no treatment and stressful lockdowns”. The correct comparison is “demonstrable vaxx casualty rates vs expected virus death rates under treatment in a calm and caring environment”. And under the correct framing, it is blatantly clear that the cure is worse than the disease.

Third, the cure does not work. You have access to the numbers in Iceland and Israel (and Britain and Cape Cod in that CDC study and other highly vaccinated places). The “vaccinated” are falling ill and going to the hospital and dying in proportions similar to their proportion in the population. So the “vaxx” does not effectively prevent infection, or spread, or complications, or morbidity. Whether the stuff is 0% or 10% effective is an academic question of no practical consequence. Even assuming new boosters can be made for the “variants”, clearly the variants will outpace production and distribution.
https://www.covid.is/data
https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w

So why the push for mandatory injection with this thing? You figure it out; what is clear is, the stuff does not work, is dangerous, and is unnecessary.

We are in the great tribulation of the generations of the post-war era. This is our World War, our Revolution and Counter-Revolution, our great trial.

@Ron.Unz – as in the period of 1933 to 1941, the battle lines are being drawn. Most of us lack influence. You have some. Which side will you take?

Here are some links that might be of use to you!

Employment recovery in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2020/article/employment-recovery.htm

Additional Information About the Updated Budget and Economic Outlook: 2021 to 2031
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57263
. . . but see also:
https://www.cbo.gov/topics/covid-19

Pandemic Impact on Mortality and Economy Varies Across Age Groups and Geographies
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/03/initial-impact-covid-19-on-united-states-economy-more-widespread-than-on-mortality.html
(Not in-depth, but quick facts)

Racial Disparities in Excess All-Cause Mortality During the Early COVID-19 Pandemic Varied Substantially Across States
https://www.census.gov/library/working-papers/2021/demo/SEHSD-WP2021-01.html
(This one feels like it’s up Steve Sailer’s alley)

Economic Report of the President: Together with The Annual Report of the Council of Economic Advisers, January 2021
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/ERP-2021/pdf/ERP-2021.pdf
(Trump’s last Hurrah)

POLICY RESPONSES TO COVID-19
https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/imf-and-covid19/Policy-Responses-to-COVID-19
(A much broader view from They Know Who)

Some of us “vax pushers” can’t be fired; we’re old enough to be retired and generally untouchable.

Obviously you won’t be fired if you’ve been vaxxed. And vaxxing will include mandatory booster shots every six months for life.

As for retirees, some politicians are taking about ending retirees’ Medicare and Social Security if retirees don’t get the death jab.

How come the anti-vaxxers, the ones who make their position on this crystal clear by refusing to get vaccinated, aren’t get fired from their jobs, at least not yet in large numbers?

Since you are commenting here, you clearly have Internet access. Evidently you choose to ignore the endless news stories about people being fired, or being threatened with being fired, if they don’t submit to the clot shot.

Regarding economic impracticality, you are correct. In France the vax passport edict has been so economically devastating that courts are having to overturn it.

See this for example…

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/08/28/versailles-court-suspends-compulsory-health-pass-at-shopping-malls-after-just-2-days/

With friends like Twitter, the pro-vaxx campaign doesn’t need enemies. Actions like [permanently banning ex New York Times reporter Alex Berneson] this are not going to convince anyone in the other camp to get vaxxed.

Indeed; I didn’t come up with this bon mot, but the answer to wrong information, here his framing of the study, is more information. Like “Yeah, this paper says you’ll get 13x better immunity from an infection (against Delta) than a vaccine, but the side effects are disproportionally worse.” And looking at Wikipedia on your island’s vaccination campaign, that would appear to hold true for AZ/Oxford as well which is not authorized in the US (they didn’t try). For it in particular you have to weight its lower efficacies, ditto one jab Janssen except it has a better side effect profile and efficacies.

If Wikipedia’s NHS England source is to be believed, and this figure is credible, for AZ/Oxford to avoid hospitalization against Delta it’s 71% with a confidence interval of 51–83%. Scotland says 33% (23–41%) for avoiding symptomatic disease, and a meager 18% (9–25%) for asymptotic (not many places frequently checking for that, with the U.K. again being a notable good outlier in monitoring). Although avoiding hospitalization by no means covers all morbidity, but I’d guess it to be better than without a vaccination.

Your island per Wikipedia per Our World in Data basically flat lined at 250-262K people fully vaccinated in mid-June out of ~370K total not subtracting children, about the time Delta arrived thanks to tourists (any attempts to quarantine them?).

From afar the situation in the U.S. looks likes ‘the lunatics have taken over the asylum’.

True from the very beginning from a multitude of reasons. Any update on what your public health authorities are saying now? Last I remember you were saying they were pretty despondent, which probably would describe a good fraction of those in my part of Red State America, “vaccine hesitancy” here is much higher than your nation as a whole.

For some time Twitter has held that actions off of their site will be considered for punishments, starting with the ludicrous removal of blue check marks that just confirm the identity of the account. So if an anti-vaxx website got on the radar of the totalitarian tech Left we’d expect action.

How many sock puppets do you operate here?

In my decreasingly interested time on this site, which might merge seamlessly with the MSM as necessary, I’ve identified about seven sock puppets.

They show up as the energy is running out of a thread and start arguing with each other in long streams of gibberish that is usually irrelevant to the issues. LOL

This means a policy of ‘zero covid’ is clearly not actually on the table and never has been. It also means that those scientists (and we are told to trust the science) know that the policy of a vaccine mandate will never eliminate covid, rather it provides a new, unsolvable and very lucrative demon to endlessly chase, much like ‘systemic racism’ or diversity industry.

BINGO!

I love your post. It is the clearest statement, yet, of the demonic nature of our health care/government tyranny.

You are so welcome.

Do you know how much more exciting and fascinating life is if you just maintain an open mind? I do, so that’s why when I see someone post a comment with an ‘out there’ idea, claim or theory, I am compelled to see what I can find.

And, as you discovered, there is info right there, easy to obtain. (Btw, normally, I would fetch the links to post but, it was very late when I wrote my comment. Thank for filling-in the info.)

The other amazing thing is the wretched powers-that-be are quite open about much that they are working on, doing, planning, etc. They don’t care about some people knowing as long as they control the media.

Lastly, to tie-in with vaccines in vegetables, you know who the largest, private farmland owner is in America today, right? Bill Gates.
https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-land-portfolio-biggest-private-farmland-owner-in-america-2021-1#:~:text=The%20Microsoft%20cofounder%20and%20philanthropist,Land%20Report%20found%20in%20January.

I am very curious to know whether any of the scientific and medical eagles commenting here find anything in the video below, with Dr. Peter McCullough, to question or disagree with:

The title of the video is “All questions Covid with Dr. Al Johnson and Dr. Peter McCullough,” from August 20. Thanks in advance!!

I appreciate the Love and the Gratitude, but please send it to my friend (paroikousa) who wrote it, the link is at the top of that comment (in the blockquote). He is a brilliant, beautiful, and firey young man who, I think, is probably the world’s foremost yet unacknowledged expert on Giorgio Agamben. (Maybe in five years or less he’ll be acknowledged.) I have had the honor to teach him, to get to know him, to work alongside him, to spend time hiking with him or just sitting around shnooting the shnit, going back and forth discussing and sharing and learning. A genuine man, with genuine Spirit, giving genuine heart.

While I am no longer myself a Christian, people such as him remind me that Jesus —the living one— still has much to do with and through His true people on this earth.

I don’t write nearly as well as he does, anyway. (Too many hard hits to the head and the heart)

“Every one being allowed to learn to read, ruineth in the long run not only writing but also thinking.” — Nietzsche

…it’s hugely gratifying to discover that at least one… seems to have read and appreciated…

That goes both ways. I meant what I said here. Moreover, it is questionable whether my sometimes spending hours of patient effort on one blog comment is more gratifying to the appreciative reader, or to me for reaching such readership.

I have rarely ever commented anywhere on the Internet. Here, my total surpassed 100,000 words earlier today—most within the past four weeks.

I am not racking up this terrific wordcount just to hear myself talk; if and when so desired, I can talk to my friends, or to an encrypted diary. “Arguing on the Internet” is not my preferred use of time, either. Notwithstanding what I said at the conclusion of this comment, I do not think I would have been able to keep up my participation here, let alone so much of it, if I were not aware that I have at least some overt readership of the “hugely gratifying” type.

Perpend the many commentators who “*yawn*” at me or which curse me out, or who complain that I don’t hide my words behind “more” tags,¹ and who weave conspiracy theories about why the moderator does not impose them on me,² or give me a diagnosis of “verbal diarrhea”—etc., etc. I am waiting for some rube to make fun of my vocabulary; it is inevitable. They are not my readership.

…even being able to quote many of them chapter and verse.

Let us seek a diagnosis from a doctor of philo-log-y. After what is essentially a swipe against man’s degeneration from vox dei to vox populi, the above epigraph continues: “He that writeth in blood and proverbs doth not want to be read, but learnt by heart.”

Incidentally, so many of the useful features I built into this system—including the Ignore list, popup reply texts, and new comments—so heavily rely upon Javascript and cookies, I’m really amazed that you’ve been able to get so much out of this website without having them.

Notwithstanding all the time that I have spent on your website, I have almost no experience with its advanced features.

I mentioned my unvaccinated unscripted status most to let you know that although Google, et al. have brainwashed everyone into sneering at the marginal fringe eccentrics who still disable Javascript, that numerically minuscule audience may be important to you. I understand that it may be impractical or impossible to build advanced interactive features without client-side scripts. But as I have mentioned in several comments, some websites cannot even be read in the manner of reading a deadtree book. Others are partly broken, with CSS that breaks without scripts, or most perniciously, “lazy-loading” images that refuse to load without scripts, showing instead only placeholders, blurred versions, or blank spaces.

In a democratic age, the weight of numbers is all that counts. In a capitalist age, the weight of “eyeballs” for advertising is all that counts. Those who build websites for proletarian herds of unthinking mass-men may be quite happy to exclude me; insofar as I am concerned, that is their loss.

I reject and condemn the whole democratic-capitalist Weltanschauung. If I were building a website, each great individual reader would be worth more to me than a million mediocre monkeys. I, a totalitarian, repudiate “individualism”—yet I care most about the individual.

If you build a website to attract independent thinkers who are aware of important issues, then you do not want to exclude the numerically minuscule no-JS readership. I myself never would have read your articles, if I needed to enable Javascript merely to read them; and there is a chicken-and-egg problem: I would not know that they were valuable to me, so I would just shrug and go away, as I do on many sites. How many others are similar in this aspect? The answer to that question cannot be predicted; and if you seek to reach numerically small sets of highly intelligent people, each individual really does count.

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Coming full circle to the epigraph up top:

“The Talk”, Raches Edition

Peasants were happier, in the times when they were not allowed to learn to read. And in fact, they never actually learned to read. Most people are not “literate” in any meaningful sense: They can make just enough use of written words to use Twitter and Facebook. That is why peasants prefer videos.

Videos make peasants happy. They are unhappy, when archivists who write ten thousand word articles disdain their precious videos. How elitist aristocratic!

Of course, I mention this not from any affected concern for the happiness of peasants, in and of itself. I merely point out that egalitarians harm the low, upon which they dote, as much as they ruin the high, whom they hate. Cf. the mass-destruction inflicted by white liberals on rhymes with triggers. Teaching peasants to “read” differs only in degree from shoving pickaninnies into white schools, where they are even worse off than the white peasant kids.

The written word is aristocratic. That is its nature. Corrupting the written word with democratic mass-“literacy” has exactly the result that Nietzsche wrote in his blood and proverbs: It ruins not only writing, but also thinking. Writers write drivel for peasants. They impose the spirit of peasant videos on the written word, for fear of having peasants “*yawn*” at them, curse them out, or ridicule them for being too “smaaaaht”—sound familiar, Mr. Unz? In the long run, this reduction of writing to the lowest common denominator eventually ruins all thinking.

Our New Dark Age is democratic. It is a mortal sin to acknowledge a basic fact of life: The masses are just not very far removed from the apes.

This brings me to summarize one of the points that I have been intending to elaborate at much greater length, as commentary on “The Political Bankruptcy of American White Nationalism”. I concur with the titular conclusion, although I disagree with many of the underlying premises; and I desire results quite different from yours, except as for America. (I laugh at the self-made fate of white Americans, and reck less of their misery than they do of their victims’.

Race matters. It matters in many ways, including but not limited to this: The “intelligent” races produce a few thinkers—and the masses from “intelligent” races make competent farmers and tradesmen, the labor force that the thinkers need as their tools. Thus is civilization upraised from the jungle. The races without all of these elements stay in the jungle, where they are as happy as monkeys eating bananas—or where they were, excepting occasional use as slaves, until Christian pests and “Enlightenment” liberals with Rousseauistic hallucinations³ started a global pandemic of do-gooding.

Racialism is necessary but insufficient for a sane political philosophy. This is where populist racialism falls flat. The overwhelming majority of alt-righters, present-day white nationalists, and Trumpists are liberals. They simply limit their worship of Equality to “all whites” to the exclusion of other races, in the same manner that other liberals demand the equality of “all humans” to the exclusion of other hominines. It is a difference of degree, not of principle.

Many of them are uppity peasants, who want to feel superior to rhymes with triggers—but who will never consistently apply the same principles to their own innate, unalterable inferiority. They whine endlessly about “elites”, rather than about “extractive elites” and elite criminals. Their own native intelligence is too low for them to understand that there always has been, will be, and must be an elite ruling class: The choice is between a benevolent, honorable, accountable ruling class—a truly aristocratic class, in the proper sense of the word—versus a ruling class of unaccountable robbers and parasites: The natural ruling class of a democracy whereby, paraphrasing and slightly altering Professor Oliver, agitators stir up the dregs at the bottom to become the scum on top.

In the abstract, the substantial difference between MAGA and BLM is that MAGA has less talent for riots: Their “riots” are like wet firecrackers. Rhymes have a racial genius for breaking things and setting them on fire, beating up anyone who gets in their way, and looting every shop except the bookstores. In these achievements, they are incontestably superior to white people—excepting a few extraordinarily talented white liberals and other Communists, who meet the high membership standards of Antifa.

There are several other important reasons why I philosophically reject most of the ideologies identified as “white nationalism”, despite some sympathy for Dr. Pierce types. I will not reach them here, save to note that most of the major points are intertwined.

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Coda: But what about Hitler?

Adolf Hitler’s greatest stroke of genius was that he, like Caesar, seized the power of the masses to destroy the power of the mob. He was not at all a “populist” in the American sense.

He sincerely loved the masses. He was a Socialist; he and Dr. Goebbels both would be none too thrilled with what I have said here, or perhaps, with the way that I have said it. But Hitler repeatedly referred to the “aristocratic principle” as a “law of nature”. He acknowledged the basic facts of life.

Beneath the surface, despite some essential differences, the result was in many ways essentially similar to what Mr. Unz found in the history and culture of China. A peasant boy with an outlier IQ would get a university education for free; but all of those who lacked the highest abilities needed to snap into line, and obey their superiors for the common good. Despite the abolition of hereditary class privileges, there was a strictly enforced hierarchy—with social mobility that went both ways. Stauffenberg types were displeased—both ways—and they showed it with rampant treason.

So noted—with the emphasis that I myself am not a National Socialist. If I were a German in Hitler’s Germany, then for the greater good of the nation, and to contribute to such achievements as one mortal individual can never attain by himself, I would conform myself to the system, seek to join the National Socialist Party, obey the Führer with military precision, and serve with utmost loyalty. But I’m not, so I can’t; and I do have substantial critiques of that system.

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Footnotes:

1. —Which, by the way, require Javascript to expand.

2. It does not dawn on those who complain about my length that this website is run by an author of ten thousand word articles, all of exceptional quality—none of which they can likely read from start to finish, with full comprehension. Those who make conspiracy theories about “more” tags fail to realize that in seeking to maintain at least some basic standards for discussion, such an author must judge quantity by its quality.

3. N.b. that I link to Wild Man’s comment because of his premises—which he does not understand, and which may be inconsistent with what he believes to be his conclusions. (Observe also that Wild Man’s 2,000-word comment did not get a “more” tag imposed on it.)

Thanks. Well, if I had a website that published controversial material and my Twitter account was important to me, I might be wary of being known as an anti-vaxxer. I might even loudly declare that I was an anti-anti-vaxxer.

A powerful statement.
Thanks.

Thank you,

Not very apetizing… Meanwhile… We have entered a Great Solar Minimum and their are solar flares which could wipe out all the tech grids in a second… I have read Nick Bostrom (first professor ‘of’ transhumanism in Oxford) some 15 years ago. Basically, he said that we were collectively bound to be wipe out out by a meteor like thing, or glaciation… So tranhumanism was a way, to where? I have never really understood.

Let’s resist that totalitarian kakistocratic, pathocratic delirium seems to be the order of the day if you are a true human being, thinking that the cells in our body are meant to produce spike proteins.

Amor fati…

People I know who spend a lot of time in the anti-vaxx-0-sphere.

Just another reminder to folks that That Would Be Telling stated they were going to stop posting about COVID-19 and not check replies.

Comment 1213 of “The Covid Debate: to Vaxx or Not to Vaxx”:

That Would Be Telling says:
August 23, 2021 at 1:19 pm GMT • 6.2 days ago • 400 Words ↑
@John Wear
I intend this to be my last posting on COVID-19 here on Unz.com and I won’t be checking for replies, but I won’t hold myself to that in the ensuing months and years.

https://www.unz.com/announcement/covid-to-vaxx-or-not-to-vaxx/?showcomments#comment-4859915

Couldn’t even hold themselves to three days, though, right back hitting the juice. Maybe we can all do our part to help them on the road to recovery. Internet addictions are dangerous things, and someone who expresses a desire to step away and not get involved needs social support networks to help. Let’s help them hold themselves accountable. After all, didn’t you also notice Be Telling attempt to forget they said that? Denial is dangerous for addicts!

Looks like I’m back on the Ignore list, though, so I can’t be of much use helping them recover sobriety! Of course, as I said earlier (#100), I completely deserve to be ignored by anyone taking me seriously.

A Chicago mother is appealing a court order that revoked her parental visiting rights because she declined to be vaccinated against the coronavirus.

When Rebecca Firlit and her ex-husband of seven years participated in a child support hearing via video call on Aug. 10 for the purpose of determining the terms of shared custody of their 11-year-old son, Cook County Judge James Shapiro inquired about Firlit’s vaccination status. After Firlit told the judge she did not receive the vaccine because of adverse reactions she has had to other vaccines, he ordered her to be stripped of her parental right to visit her son until she has been vaccinated.

Unreal. You MIGHT could make a case for protecting a kid with leukemia, organ transplant or immune dysfunction from a parent unwilling to take the jab, but there’s no evidence of that in this case?

Children are the least at risk from Covid-19 of any demographic group. Of 351 0-17 year olds who have died of Covid-19 (of a population between 70 and 75 million), there is no evidence of any being healthy before infection (according to Marty Makary there were no reports of healthy children dying of Covid-19).

887 of children have died this year of (non-Covid) pneumonia (CDC provisional counts). About 800 kids drown each year, most under age 5. Rather than being accepted as a major break, all the science on children and Covid-19 is ignored or cherry-picked for fear mongering. Yes, children get infected, but handle the infection fine (mild or asymptomatic in most cases). Yes, children have high viral loads, but are poor transmitters of Covid (speculation is their high viral titers are ‘dead’ chewed-up RNA; possibly children have RNAses (or DNAses) that are better at fighting viruses than adults (haven’t seen this resolved). Children’s responses to Covid have been studied in every major country on earth, and are not at risk of dying from the disease and are at very low risk of passing Covid-19 to others. MIS-C is basically American appropriated Kawasaki’s syndrome, easily treated since the 1970s. But fear for THE CHILDREN resonates with Americans who act on instinct with no critical thinking skills.

And due to the very flawed nature of pharmaco-vigilancy as it exists, the numbers of Vaers datas are at least underestimated by a factor of 10. In France, the local datas are kept hidden by the usurpators and serious researchers are obliged to use datas from abroad… It is catastrophic.

It’s actually closer to 1%! Below is an analysis. Also, don’t you use the EUDRS/Vigilance dB in Europe/France? That isn’t hidden, is it?

Again, WHY isn’t the so-called 4th Estate doing investigative stories and counterpoint on all aspects of Covid? How have they all been silenced?
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Electronic Support for Public Health–Vaccine Adverse
Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS)

Inclusive dates: 12/01/07 – 09/30/10

Principal Investigator: Lazarus, Ross, MBBS, MPH, MMed, GDCompSci
Team members: Michael Klompas, MD, MPH
Performing Organization: Harvard Pilgrim Health Care, Inc.
Project Officer: Steve Bernstein

Submitted to:
The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ)
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
540 Gaither Road
Rockville, MD 20850
http://www.ahrq.gov

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Results

Preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October 2009 on 715,000 patients, and 1.4 million doses (of 45 different vaccines) were given to 376,452 individuals. Of these doses, 35,570 possible reactions (2.6 percent of vaccinations) were identified. This is an average of 890 possible events, an average of 1.3 events per clinician, per month. These data were presented at the 2009 AMIA conference.

In addition, ESP:VAERS investigators participated on a panel to explore the perspective of clinicians, electronic health record (EHR) vendors, the pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA towards systems that use proactive, automated adverse event reporting.

Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed. Barriers to reporting include a lack of clinician awareness, uncertainty about when and what to report, as well as the burdens of reporting: reporting is not part of clinicians’ usual workflow, takes time, and is duplicative. Proactive, spontaneous, automated adverse event reporting imbedded within EHRs and other information systems has the potential to speed the identification of problems with new drugs and more careful quantification of the risks of older drugs.

Unfortunately, there was never an opportunity to perform system performance assessments because the necessary CDC contacts were no longer available and the CDC consultants responsible for receiving data were no longer responsive to our multiple requests to proceed with testing and evaluation.

https://www.openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf

I’ve used the OpenVAERS dB, which can take you down to the year level. With a max per page display of 312 (where did that number come from???) you get 44 pages of dead for 2021. It’s not that hard to advance to wear you want to be.

I will submit a request to give us more granularity on their search.

I have not tried the HHS search version.

There has been some mention of Covid risk/benefit not being of any apparent concern in some past comments. Here is an article that discusses that.
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The Bizarre Refusal to Apply Cost-Benefit Analysis to COVID Debates
Are those who oppose a ban on cars or a radical reduction in speed limits sociopaths, given the huge number of people they are knowingly consigning to death or maiming?
Glenn Greenwald
Aug 25, 2021

In virtually every realm of public policy, Americans embrace policies which they know will kill people, sometimes large numbers of people. They do so not because they are psychopaths but because they are rational: they assess that those deaths that will inevitably result from the policies they support are worth it in exchange for the benefits those policies provide. This rational cost-benefit analysis, even when not expressed in such explicit or crude terms, is foundational to public policy debates — except when it comes to COVID, where it has been bizarrely declared off-limits.
….
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-bizarre-refusal-to-apply-cost

Thank you for teaching me something new about Professor Oliver. From what I have gathered about the final months of his life, the quote from Mr. Piper’s book makes sense.

I immediately wrote a long reply here, loaded with Oliver-related information, inter alia. I held it because it is too revealing about me, my special affinity for the professor, and how his works have influenced the course of my life. Perhaps I may follow up later.

As I said, the Kennedy assassination is not of great interest to me—although I understand why it is to others; and it is more definitely more interesting than talk about vaccines, an issue for me of forced attention and not much curiosity. I regret not having read Mr. Piper’s book before. It is now on a (long, chaotic, perpetually backed-up) reading list.

At least we have Israel who has sold out to Pfizer for an earlier vaccination campaign as a bellwether to watch. The Israelis have fully vaccinated 62% of their (adult?) population. Importantly their physicians do not seem to be censored as much as dissenting scientists in other countries. Israelis pointed out that as many as 1 in 3000 teenage boys could have myocarditis from the Pfizer jab. (“Mostly short-acting and self-resolving”.) Try criticizing vaccines in the US (which are very useful for the Vulnerable targets of Covid-19– the elderly and those seriously ill– but pointless for the young and healthy). Most non-US countries take deaths from vaccines seriously, here we are told “the patient was old!” Of course, just about everyone who dies from Covid globally is also old, median age 82 (past the average life-span).

In the US, the jackhammering Biden administration is pushing vaccinations, claiming an “Epidemic of the Unvaccinated” is responsible for almost all Covid hospitalizations and deaths. In Israel, with 62% fully vaccinated, about 60% of their HOSPITALIZED Covid patients are also fully vaccinated (so far, deaths are not up in the vaccinated). However, the point of the vaccines is to block serious cases (presumably those hospitalized) and deaths. Israel vaccinated their Vulnerable first, and 87% of their vaccinated, hospitalized cases are over age 60. However these are the only Israelis who really needed the vaccines; their immunity seems to fade within 5 months, and they now need a booster.

If the Pharma companies are planning to make bigger fortunes out of boosters, the US government should remove their liability shield. There goes their profits. Covid vaccines appear more reactive, and with more adverse effects than most other vaccines. The vaccines are worth the risk for the Elderly and medically compromised, but not for healthy young people.

Increasingly natural immunity looks much better than Pfizer vaccine immunity (nice, powered data from Israel, and smaller US studies on delta outbreaks) and natural immunity decreased new Covid cases and deaths by 80% in the US from mid January to mid March, before significant vaccination. People with natural immunity spread the virus much less than the vaccinated, so while no vaccine herd immunity is possible, perhaps natural herd immunity? Estimates of Americans with natural immunity range from 100 million to 250 million. Coronaviruses don’t normally induce huge antibody responses, so we don’t have good assays to ascertain if people have had Covid-19 a year or more ago.

There have been resignations galore and/or coppers refusing to enforce a lot of the government edicts.

Doubt “resignations galore”. Source/numbers?

MOREOVER, there is already a breakaway movement within the police force here in NSW (largest state of Oz), that is coalescing and building in numbers, I have been told, that is threatening to derail this totalitarianism.

You sure about that?
Riccardo Bosi talks about it. Sounds good.
My gut feeling: something’s…… amiss… there. Just me.

Anyway, we’ll see what happens with:
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/truck-drivers-to-strike-nationwide-at-midnight/video/09713fca30e97cc4f522f713b4d848dc

My take: nothing of substance re the scandemic.

“They” are well organized, have enormous resources and clear goal/agenda. The real movers and shakers, that is.

“We” still don’t even recognize what’s really going on. “We” as 5 % of population, tops.
The rest of common folk (I’d say 80 %) simply do not think….

To finish the post on a sort of positive note, I’ve found this
https://www.gwern.net/docs/history/1943-burnham-machiavellians.pdf
useful reading. Explains a bit about elites, masses, changes etc. Mosca and Pareto parts in particular.

but the answer to wrong information, here his framing of the study, is more information. Like “Yeah, this paper says you’ll get 13x better immunity from an infection (against Delta) than a vaccine, but the side effects are disproportionally worse.”

Sure, but from my point of view there wasn’t much wrong with his framing either in his tweets. I didn’t see him suggesting people should try to get infection to acquire natural immunity. In it self it seems rather moot point to worry about – people seeking infection to get natural immunity against the same infection.

Your island per Wikipedia per Our World in Data basically flat lined at 250-262K people fully vaccinated in mid-June out of ~370K total not subtracting children, about the time Delta arrived thanks to tourists (any attempts to quarantine them?).

No, not yet. But they did clamp down a bit;

NOTE: From 27 July 2021 vaccinated passengers (and those with a prior infection) born in 2004 or earlier, must present a negative PCR or antigen test (not older than 72 hours) prior to boarding a vessel to Iceland.

Not much happening since my last update. The critical variable now is number of hospital and ICU beds. The situation is very difficult in our main hospital who had close to zero excess capacity even before covid. Now they are suspending all kinds of operations to deal with covid patients.

I have casually been trying to figure out the real size of this latest wave of infections but without much luck. I suspect it’s by far the biggest we have had. It really looks like the vaccines are doing good job in preventing serious outcomes. But again, our high risk groups, even if vaccinated are very careful. It’s mostly young people being infected now. Strange anecdote: in the age group below 60 we now have 3 deaths. All of them foreign travelers.

Any update on what your public health authorities are saying now? Last I remember you were saying they were pretty despondent

Still are. The seem happy with low rate of serious outcomes. Disappointed how far we are from heard immunity. Recommending vaccinations for the un-vaxxed. Currently busy trying to figure out how to open up schools this autumn. It looks like we will have another winter of chaos with endless infections popping up and entire classes or small schools closing for quarantine purposes. Not exciting to have to deal with all that again.

But with parliamentary elections coming up in few weeks the picture is blurred. Covid policy won’t be big election issue. I think they and most else have accepted the idea we will have to live with covid for many months or few years. No magic bullets to be had. Very different reality from last June.

Some interesting myths here, but what you refer to takes place in situ, not inside the cell of a victim of a full blown infectious dose of coronavirus set up inside a few hundreds targeted cells. Viruses are not alive, but are inanimate objects–a package of nucleic acid inside some protective coating. They are like seeds that come to life when conditions are favorable for making copies of themselves. Once they contact specific cell receptors for the viral ligands, they inject their nucleic acid material into the cell to hijack the biochemical machinery of the cell to make copies of themselves. Vaccines have been around since the 1700s and have saved countless lives. They are nothing new, but the technology today compared to crude preparations of just 4 or 5 decades ago, has significantly advanced. Think of the power of your cell phone. I personally have vaccinated 1000s of animals of a half dozen species–these are anecdotal testimonials; I’m not claiming stringently controlled experiments, but vaccines work. I can understand why it is so difficult to convince primitive tribes of the value of vaccination. It is difficult to understand why some Americans refuse except for the aforementioned tribes. Oh, before I forget, we have been vaccinating for coronaviruses specific to cattle, dogs, horses, pigs, etc for at least 50 years with a great deal of success in the field.

To clarify, I’m not “pro-mask”. In the original Whitney/Unz thread, I wrote “pointing out the ineffectiveness of masks is important, and it’s one of the easiest parts of the COVID narrative to debunk. Moreover, once someone has grasped the nonsense of that part of the narrative, it’s much easier to consider and understand the nonsense of many of the other parts as well.” In the comment you replied to, the first source I quoted shows a nearly negligible ~10-12% effectiveness.

But I wanted to correct what I understand to be misinformation about viral particle size vs. mask hole size. I also described myself in one of these threads as being in the vax-unconvinced half of the viewpoint spectrum. There is a lot of misinformation on both sides, and I think it helps credibility as well as helps get to the truth if it is pointed out, even, and perhaps especially, if it comes from one’s own side.

Hello again Raches. You featured my response to your analysis of Nietzsche (both from previous thread), here in this comment. But I’m not sure preciously why … what point are you trying to make? …. that aristocratic elitists should get to decide whom qualifies as elitist, … ‘elitist’ as defined as those whom should be given cultural voice? Why would my 2,000 word essay response, you reference, help your cause in this vein, given that my claims are antithetical to your claims, …. if indeed you just point to my claims, and proclaim said claims are misguided, without explaining your judgment around that?

You featured my said response to your analysis of Nietzsche, here in this comment as:

“Christian pests and “Enlightenment” liberals with Rousseauistic hallucinations³”

Then, by way of the footnote (3), you claim I do not understand the premises of westernism, and as such, you go on to claim my supposed confusion as informing my conclusions, perforce, will therefore supposedly very likely to be inconsistent with said premises that I supposedly do not understand.

Raches ….. not nearly good enough. You can say stuff, and claim stuff, until the cows come home … but if you do not engage with the content of the response of mine, that you have hereby featured, … it’s all just rhetorical maneuvers. Which is anti-western.

I believe they advise against it mostly because they can hook you up with doctors who will prescribe it. If there were no such doctors I imagine they would advise taking the veterinary versions. In addition, keep in mind they’re all doctors, trained by the medical system. Most of them probably still believe in doctors as prescription gatekeepers. Even if they don’t, they need to appear as responsible and respectable as possible. BTW, most probably know this or will find out quickly if they research it, but there are both oral and injectable forms, and my impression is that the injectable form can be taken orally (with the right dosage).

Absurdity to follow . . .

Did you never learn that brevity is the soul of wit?

Yeah. The flu is much more dangerous to children than Covid. Covid is not dangerous to kids.

I’m waiting for the defense of this Shapiro, though, followed by a denial that this vaccination mania has gotten absurdly out of hand. Laughter is an instant vacation.

Thanks for this video with Dr. Alfred Johnson, D.O. and Dr. Peter McCullough, M.D. I live in Dallas and will see Dr. Alfred Johnson this coming Thursday morning for a routine annual physical exam.

I found it interesting that Dr. Johnson mentioned hyperbaric oxygen therapy in this video. I have had 75 hours of hyperbaric oxygen therapy with Dr. Johnson. Although it is quite expensive, the hyperbaric oxygen therapy I received from him did help with my chronic fatigue syndrome, a condition which I have had since December 2007.

When I see Dr. Johnson I will recommend Dr. Carrie Madej’s videos to him. They both went to the same D.O. school in Kansas City and are both self-professed Christians. I am hoping Dr. Madej’s videos will give Dr. Johnson some additional information concerning the dangers of the COVID shots.