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在过去的几年里,有很多新闻报道(例如, 此处),纪录片(例如,约兰德·祖伯曼的 “ M”)和文章(例如, 此处此处) 关于东正教犹太社区儿童的性虐待。 在 三月 二零二二 年, 例如, “国土报” 报道称,以色列警方逮捕了 22 名极端正统派犹太人,罪名是针对未成年人和妇女的性犯罪,并于 2019 年 XNUMX 月 以色列时报 报道称,“卫生部副部长 Yaakov Litzman 被指控不当干预,以帮助来自以色列极端正统社区的至少 10 名性犯罪者。” 2015 年,犹太律师迈克尔·莱舍 (Michael Lesher) 写道 性虐待, 俊田 和隐瞒东正教犹太社区, 记录

“这些案件中有多少被向公众和警方刻意隐瞒的惨淡历史:有影响力的拉比和社区领袖如何支持被指控的虐待受害者的人; 性虐待的受害者和证人如何受到压力,甚至受到威胁,不得向世俗执法部门寻求帮助; 自治的犹太“巡逻队”在一些大型和宗教信仰浓厚的犹太社区取代了官方警察的角色,如何在掩盖历史上发挥了不光彩的作用; ......一些犹太社区甚至成功地操纵执法官员来保护涉嫌施虐者。”

这让我想起了弗洛伊德如何在他的大多数犹太客户中偶然发现虐待儿童的普遍现实的故事,用所有小女孩都渴望父亲的阴茎而所有小男孩都梦想操弄母亲的理论来掩盖它——并以一个外邦神话命名他的理论。

2.弗洛伊德对真理的攻击

杰弗里·马森 (Jeffrey Masson) 讲述了这个故事 对真理的攻击:弗洛伊德对诱惑理论的压制 (1984)。[1]杰弗里·马森 对真理的攻击:弗洛伊德对诱惑理论的压制, 法拉·施特劳斯和吉鲁,1984 年。 1895 年和 1896 年,弗洛伊德听了他那些神经质和歇斯底里的病人的话,确信他们中的大多数人在童年时期都遭受过创伤性的性虐待。 “歇斯底里”(当时一种过度使用的诊断)的创伤起源已经被神经学家讨论过,其中包括让-马丁·夏科特(Jean-Martin Charcot)和赫尔曼·奥本海姆(Hermann Oppenheim),他于 1889 年在柏林发表了一篇关于创伤的论文。神经症。 然而,性本质的心理创伤很少被公开讨论。 另一方面,弗洛伊德所知道的医学出版物记录了对儿童的暴力行为的频率,包括性侵犯,但它们关注的是身体上的后果。 1896 年 XNUMX 月,弗洛伊德确信自己在精神病学领域取得了重大突破,他向维也纳的精神病学和神经病学协会展示了他的发现,这是他向同行发表的第一次重要公开演讲。 他的演讲陷入了完全的沉默。 根据马森的说法,弗洛伊德被敦促永远不要发表它,以免他的声誉受损而无法修复。 他发现自己与世隔绝,但仍然发表了他的论文《歇斯底里的病因学》。

弗洛伊德的结论来自 18 个案例研究(6 名男性和 12 名女性),他声称所有这些研究都带有他的总体论点:

“因此,我提出了这样一个论点,即在每一个歇斯底里的案例的底部都有一个或多个过早的性经历,这些事件属于童年的最初几年,但可以通过精神分析的工作重现之间的几十年。 我相信这是一个重要的发现 尼丽上尉 在神经病理学。”

“因此,归根结底,必须承认童年时期的性经历包括刺激生殖器、性交行为等,是导致对青春期事件和发展的歇斯底里反应的创伤。歇斯底里的症状。”

弗洛伊德认为这个结论不仅适用于歇斯底里症,也适用于大多数神经症。 在其他评论中,他建议对其他儿童进行性侵犯的儿童这样做是因为他们自己受到了性虐待:“除非他们以前被引诱过,否则儿童无法找到性侵犯行为的方式。”

然而,在这篇文章发表一年后,弗洛伊德认定他错误地相信了他的病人。 他确定,他认为被压抑的性虐待记忆实际上是“幻想”。 在他的余生中,他一直在讲述自己是如何克服错误的,并发现“这些幻想是为了掩盖童年最初几年的自我色情活动,修饰它并将其提升到更高的层次。 而现在,从幻想的背后,孩子的性生活的整个范围都暴露了出来”(精神分析运动的历史, 1919)。

从弗洛伊德早期的理论——他委婉地称之为“诱惑理论”——的观点来看,他关于自发性婴儿性幻想的新理论可以被视为一种投射,与性犯罪者指责受害者的倾向不同:病人自己现在被指控对父母的性热情和凶残的幻想。 弗洛伊德正统说,通过抑制这些自我产生的冲动,他们创造了自己的神经症,在歇斯底里,这些神经症可能会以虐待的错误记忆的形式出现。

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1932 年后,弗洛伊德最有天赋的弟子,曾经是国际精神分析协会的主席,偶然发现了弗洛伊德在“歇斯底里的病因学”中分享的同样的认识。 Sandor Ferenczi 于 12 年 XNUMX 月在他的日记中写道,俄狄浦斯情结很可能是“成年人真实行为的结果,即针对孩子的暴力激情,然后孩子发展出一种固执,而不是来自欲望(如弗洛伊德所坚持的那样) ,而是出于恐惧。 “如果我不爱他们,我的父母会杀了我,并认同他们的意愿。””费伦齐克服了对弗洛伊德反应的担忧,敢于在 XNUMXth 国际精神分析大会在题为“成人和儿童之间的语言混淆”的演讲中。 他的论文包含了许多被后来研究证实的重要思想,例如受害者的心理“与侵略者的认同”或“内射”:“侵略者作为外在现实消失,变成内在的而不是外在的”,因此即使是侵略者的内疚感是内在的。 Ferenczi 假设无助会导致受害者对攻击者产生同情,这个过程今天被称为 “斯德哥尔摩综合症”.

“极端的逆境,尤其是对死亡的恐惧”也可能引发过早发育,为此费伦齐使用了“被鸟喙伤害过早成熟或变甜的水果,或虫果过早成熟的比喻” . 震惊会导致人的一部分突然成熟,不仅在情感上,而且在智力上也是如此。” 这种创伤性的成熟是以牺牲心理整合为代价的,费伦齐引入了人格分裂的概念:“没有人格分裂的痕迹,没有震惊,没有恐惧。” 在他的个人日记中,Ferenczi 写道:

“我从其他分析中了解到,我们存在的一部分可能会‘死亡’,而我们自我的其余部分可能会在创伤中幸存下来,但它会随着记忆的空白醒来。 其实这是性格上的差距,因为不仅生死搏斗的记忆消失了,而且所有其他相关联的记忆都消失了……也许永远。”

1922 年合影,费伦齐坐在弗洛伊德旁边
1922 年合影,费伦齐坐在弗洛伊德旁边

这一观察结果与法国医生和心理学家 Pierre Janet (1859-1947) 的发现一致,他的工作长期以来一直被弗洛伊德心理学所掩盖,但自 1980 年代以来引起了越来越多的兴趣。 珍妮特对“分离性身份障碍”的第一个模型进行了理论化,现在包含在 精神疾病诊断与统计手册。 In 黑玫瑰 (1909 年),珍妮特写道:“正如综合和联想是所有正常心理操作的重要特征一样,分离是所有心理疾病的基本特征。” 分离解释了创伤记忆的演变,由生理、感官、情感和认知体验组成,珍妮特称之为“想法修复”。 经验的这些碎片化方面不允许真实的记忆整合主体的传记,而是发展成单独的心理实体,然而这会干扰主要人格。 在最严重的情况下,它会发展成精神分裂症或多重人格。

Ferenczi 的“语言混乱”讲座遭到精神分析协会成员的反对,就像弗洛伊德的“歇斯底里症的病因学”遭到维也纳精神病学家的反对一样。 Ferenczi 被弗洛伊德和他的宗派门徒排斥,他的论文从未被翻译成英文,因为 国际心理分析杂志, 按照惯例。 几年后他死了,一个破碎的人。

3.父亲的隐性过错

这个故事提出了两个问题:首先,是什么让弗洛伊德改变主意,并让他在 XNUMX 年后回避 Ferenczi 的工作? 其次,更重要的是,为什么弗洛伊德的理论如此成功,尽管长期以来被证明有科学缺陷,而且其治疗价值毫无根据?

关于第一个问题,马森分享了他的“信念,即弗洛伊德在 1896 年发现的——在许多情况下,儿童是自己家庭中性暴力和虐待的受害者——已经成为一种责任,以至于他实际上不得不将其排除在外。他的意识。” 这一理论受到了挑战,马森因夸大对弗洛伊德诱惑理论的负面反应而受到批评(阅读 此处)。 唯一可以肯定的是,他的论文并没有给他带来他所期望的一夜成名。

马森还考虑了其​​他因素。 他认为弗洛伊德受到了古怪的耳鼻喉科医生威廉弗莱斯的影响,他是“鼻反射神经症”的不幸发明者,弗洛伊德与他建立了一种非常奇特的情感纽带(顺便说一下,弗莱斯的儿子罗伯特后来写了性虐待和暗示他的自己被父亲虐待)。 马森是该杂志的编辑 未删减版 弗洛伊德写给 Fliess 的信件(弗洛伊德销毁了 Fliess 的信件,但没有销毁他自己的信件),其中提供了关于弗洛伊德阐述他的理论的方式的独特信息(最重要的摘录 此处)。 然而,在他引人入胜的调查结束时,马森承认弗洛伊德突然转变的完整解释无法解释。

几乎同时出版的两本书(1979 年)提供了额外的见解,一本法文,一本德文,均于 1982 年翻译成英文:Marie Balmary, 弗洛伊德与父亲的隐藏错误, 和玛丽安·克鲁尔, 弗洛伊德和他的父亲. 两者都广泛地借鉴了弗洛伊德写给弗利斯的信件,这些信件记录了弗洛伊德是如何通过内省的自我分析导致他的理论转变的。 Balmary 和 Krüll 指出,弗洛伊德在他父亲雅各布去世后就进行了这种自我分析。 2 年 1896 月 11 日,也就是他父亲去世十天后,弗洛伊德写信给弗莱斯,讲述了他在葬礼前一天晚上做的一个梦,梦中出现了一个写着“请你闭上眼睛”的标志,他将其解释为指的是到“对死者的责任”。 然而,在 1897 年 7 月 21 日,在提到强迫儿童口交会导致神经症症状后,他补充说:“不幸的是,我自己的父亲就是这些变态之一,他对我兄弟的歇斯底里负责(他的所有症状都是身份)和几个妹妹的身份。 这种情况的频率常常让我感到奇怪。” 第二年夏天,他经历了一次抑郁发作,并在 XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日写道:“我仍然不知道发生了什么事。 来自我自己神经症最深处的某种东西反对任何对神经症的理解的进步,而你不知何故卷入了其中。” 不久之后,也就是 XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日,他对他的朋友宣布:“我想立即向你倾诉在过去几个月里我逐渐意识到的重大秘密。 我不再相信我的 神经质 [他的诱惑理论]。” 作为一种解释,他给出了一个解释,“令人惊讶的是,在所有情况下,父亲,不排除我自己,都不得不被指责为不正常。” 在下一封信中,3 月 15 日,他自信地写道,在他自己的神经症的情况下,“老人没有积极参与。” 最后,XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日,他提到了俄狄浦斯的故事:

“我突然想到了一个具有普遍价值的想法。 在我自己的情况下,我也发现了[这种现象] 爱我的母亲和嫉妒我的父亲,现在我认为这是儿童早期的普遍现象。”

1854 年,西格蒙德和他的父亲雅各布
1854 年,西格蒙德和他的父亲雅各布

Balmary 和 Krüll 独立地建立了一个强有力的案例,弗洛伊德放弃了一个理论,该理论损害了他所悲痛的父亲的理想形象。 父亲去世后,弗洛伊德感到自己无法抗拒的命令束缚了他,因此,“他是一个孝子,在他的俄狄浦斯理论的帮助下,将罪孽推到了自己的肩上”(Krüll,第 179 页) . Balmary 和 Krüll 将雅各布·弗洛伊德(Jacob Freud)的不完美行为的最近传记发现引入了等式; 一个被遗忘的第二任妻子,名叫丽贝卡,在雅各布与第三任妻子美丽的阿米莉亚·内​​桑森结婚时神秘失踪,可能是自杀,她的年龄只有他的一半,已经怀上了西格蒙德(雅各布试图通过伪造西格蒙德的日期来掩盖这一事实)出生)。 鉴于跨代深度心理学的后弗洛伊德发展,[2]例如,尼古拉斯·亚伯拉罕 (Nicolas Abraham) 和玛丽亚·托洛克 (Maria Török), L'Écorce et le Noyau, Aubier-Flammarion,1978 年。 弗洛伊德可能从很小的时候就有一种直觉,即与他自己的身份有关的“父亲的隐藏错误”,这可能与他父亲对他自己和他的兄弟姐妹的性虐待的记忆相结合。 在他40岁的自我分析中,整件事敲响了他的意识之门,但他最终屈服于潜意识“闭上眼睛”的命令。 为了掩盖他父亲错误的可怕真相,弗洛伊德发明了俄狄浦斯情结,指责孩子们自己“多态性变态”。

巴尔马里指出,在他对英雄俄狄浦斯(他解开斯芬克斯之谜)的个人认同中,弗洛伊德截断了这个神话。 根据希腊悲剧作家的说法,俄狄浦斯的父亲拉伊俄斯因引诱一个十几岁的男孩并导致他自杀而被众神诅咒。 然后,被神谕的预言吓坏了,如果他怀孕了,他会被自己的儿子杀死,拉伊斯把他刚出生的儿子扔在森林里,“脚踝中间被铁钉刺穿”(欧里庇得斯, 腓尼基少女)。 因此,在完整的神话中,俄狄浦斯杀父娶母的缘分,不是由自己的冲动决定的,而是由父亲的过错决定的。 对巴尔马里来说,弗洛伊德对神话的这一部分的无知揭示并象征着他自己的盲点,他未能发现父亲的秘密罪行——包括他自己的父亲,因此也包括他的神经质和歇斯底里患者的父亲。

4. 犹太人的“黑暗、情感力量”

马森和巴尔马里都没有处理这个问题的犹太人方面。 Marianne Krüll 暗示父亲“闭上眼睛”的命令是一个“孝道,最终是整个犹太传统的基础”(Krüll,第 178 页),但是,尽管她自己是犹太人,但她并不坚持在这方面。

为了对俄狄浦斯情结的犹太隐藏背景进行有趣的反思,我们可以转向约翰·默里·库迪希(John Murray Cuddihy)非常刺激的书, 文明的考验.[3]约翰·默里·库迪希 文明的考验:弗洛伊德、马克思、列维-施特劳斯和犹太人与现代性的斗争, Delta Book, 1974 (on archive.org),第 4 章,第 48-57 页。 作者指出弗洛伊德对索福克勒斯的戏剧着迷 俄狄浦斯王 从他的青春期开始。 1885年,当他看到它演奏时,又给他留下了深刻而神秘的印象。 15 年后,他写信给 Fliess(1897 年 XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日),他发现,用他关于乱伦和弑亲的普遍被压抑愿望的新理论,可以解释“ 俄狄浦斯王。” 换句话说,Cuddihy 评论说,弗洛伊德“提出了一个理论 解释 这部剧对他的影响力,并让他“理解”为什么他应该如此深刻地认同它的英雄俄狄浦斯。 正是在这种努力的过程中,精神分析理论的核心诞生了。”

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但是,Cuddihy 认为弗洛伊德没有看到他对事物着迷的真正根源。 俄狄浦斯王. 从他第一次阅读时就深深地引起了他的共鸣 俄狄浦斯王 与其说是该剧的总体情节(英雄杀父娶母),不如说是俄狄浦斯杀父的情景:走在一条狭窄的道路上,俄狄浦斯被神的使者粗鲁地命令让开国王,然后被国王本人击中头部。 愤怒的俄狄浦斯杀死了国王、他的使者和他的其他随从,只有一个人除外。 这个故事——不是表演而是在戏剧中叙述——与几年前给弗洛伊德留下持久印象的另一个故事有着惊人的相似之处,正如他在 梦的解释。 这是他的父亲,一个来自摩拉维亚的犹太人——西格蒙德出生的地方——在他十岁或十二岁的时候告诉他的故事,

“为了表明现在的情况比他那个时代好得多。 “当我还是个年轻人的时候,”他说,“一个星期六,我在你出生地的街道上散步; 我穿得很好,头上戴着一顶新帽子。 一个基督徒走到我面前,一击把我的帽子打落到泥里,喊道:“犹太人! 离开人行道! “你做了什么?” 我问。 “我走进马路,拿起了我的帽子,”他平静地回答道。 这让我印象深刻,是那个拉着小男孩的大个子壮汉的非英雄行为。 我将这种情况与另一种更符合我的感觉的情况进行了对比:汉尼拔的父亲哈米尔卡·巴尔卡(Hamilcar Barca)让他的儿子在家庭祭坛前发誓要向罗马人报仇的场景。 从那时起,汉尼拔就在我的幻想中占有一席之地。”

库迪希认为,弗洛伊德曾经历过父亲的耻辱,以及“为父亲感到羞耻” 是一种 '道德杀戮。'”

“弗洛伊德可能不仅经历了这种愤怒和羞耻,而且对愤怒和羞耻感到内疚。 他很快“审查”了这些不可接受的感觉,对于一个表面上以父亲为荣的孝顺儿子来说是不可接受的; 他“压制”了他们。 多年后,他遇到了索福克勒斯的悲剧,这给他下了魔咒。”

再后来,在他父亲去世后,他用一个普遍的理论使这个咒语合理化,使他免于进一步探究自己的家庭故事。 “但是 修复 弗洛伊德将成为俄狄浦斯,”Cuddihy 坚持说,“取决于一个小细节(很小,但对故事的情节来说在结构上是必不可少的),弗洛伊德在无数次重述‘传奇’时从未提及:......侮辱,道路上的不礼貌,源于处于社会优越地位的人(Laius国王对不知名的旅行者俄狄浦斯,就像弗莱堡的基督徒强迫雅各布弗洛伊德进入阴沟一样)。” 根据库迪希的说法,弗洛伊德认为他发现的所谓普遍的“俄狄浦斯情结”实际上是他那个时代典型的犹太人情结的面纱。

即使我们判断论文过度紧张(复仇和杀死父亲的幻想如何融合是值得怀疑的),我们也可以理解库迪希如何提请人们注意弗洛伊德的父亲这一事实——他觉得他不得不为他辩解,但对谁尽管如此,他还是经历了一个谋杀的愿望——是一位最近从意第绪兰移民到欧洲文明中心的犹太父亲。

弗洛伊德的弟子和第一传记作者欧内斯特·琼斯评论说,弗洛伊德“觉得自己从根本上是犹太人,显然这对他来说意义重大”。[4]欧内斯特·琼斯 西格蒙德·弗洛伊德的生活和工作,卷 1, 形成年代和伟大的发现,1856-1900, 基础书籍, 1953, p. 22,引自约翰·默里·库迪希 (John Murray Cuddihy), 文明的考验:弗洛伊德、马克思、列维-施特劳斯和犹太人与现代性的斗争, Delta Book, 1974 (在archive.org), p. 24. 专门处理弗洛伊德的犹太身份的书籍(例如 Moshe Gresser, 双重效忠:弗洛伊德作为现代犹太人, Sunny Press, 1994)可以依赖弗洛伊德本人在私人信件中或在犹太环境中发表的几项声明。 在希伯来语翻译的序言中 图腾与禁忌, 例如,弗洛伊德反问自己作品中的犹太人是什么,他回答说:“非常多,而且可能是它的本质。”[5]理查德·伯恩斯坦, 弗洛伊德和摩西的遗产, 剑桥大学,1998 年,p。 1、在 http://assets.cambridge.org/97805216/30962/sample/9...eb.pdf 在 1926 年在维也纳 B'nai B'rith Lodge 准备发表的演讲中,弗洛伊德解释了他三十年前(1897 年)加入的动机:

“每当我体验到民族振奋的感觉时,我都试图将它们压制为灾难性和不公平的,因为我们犹太人生活在其中的那些国家的警告榜样使我感到害怕。 但仍然足以让犹太教和犹太人的吸引力无法抗拒,许多黑暗的情感力量越少用语言表达就越强大,以及对内在身份的清晰意识,对相同心理结构的熟悉。 ……所以我成为了你们中的一员。”[6]西格蒙德·弗洛伊德,“论 B'nai B'rith 的存在”,转载于 评论,1946 年 23 月,第 24-XNUMX 页,引自 Peter Homans, 哀悼的能力:精神分析的幻灭和社会起源, 芝加哥大学出版社,1989年,第71页。 XNUMX。

这句话很好地说明了库迪希所说的“文明的磨难”,这是每一个希望同化但又觉得无法克服其祖先犹太人的“黑暗情感力量”的犹太人的斗争,其隐含的必要性 吸收。 犹太人身份与 Ivan Boszormenyi-Nagy 所说的“无形的忠诚”有很大关系,这种忠诚可以通过不可抗拒的价值观、义务和债务体系将一个人与其祖先联系起来。[7]伊万·博佐门·纳吉(Ivan Boszormenyi-Nagy), 看不见的忠诚:代际家庭治疗中的互惠, 哈珀与罗(Harper&Row),1973年。 问题是弗洛伊德的精神分析理论在多大程度上是弗洛伊德向那些“黑暗情感力量”投降的结果。

当弗洛伊德告诉我们时,我们必须认真对待他 梦的诠释 他自己的犹太身份表现为对汉尼拔的认同,以及“向罗马人复仇”的幻想。 他接着说:

“我自己已经走在汉尼拔的后尘……汉尼拔,我已经达到了这个相似点,在我在体育馆的岁月里,他是我最喜欢的英雄; ……而且,当我终于意识到属于异族的后果,被同学们的反犹情绪逼着明确表态时,闪族指挥官的形象在我的想象中占据了更大的比重。 在我年轻的眼中,汉尼拔和罗马象征着犹太人的顽强与天主教会组织之间的斗争。 反犹太主义运动对我们情感生活的重要性从那时起有助于修复早期的思想和印象。 因此,去罗马的愿望在我的梦想生活中成为了许多热烈怀念的愿望的面具和象征,为了实现这些愿望,人们必须以布匿将军的坚韧和专一的态度努力,尽管有时它们会实现似乎和汉尼拔想进入罗马的终生愿望一样遥远。”

这份公开供词于 1899 年印制,供全世界阅读,其重要性再怎么估计也不为过。 在这里,弗洛伊德将进入罗马(基督教世界)并摧毁它为腓尼基人(犹太人)报仇的幻想命名为他生命中的驱动力。

如果弗洛伊德深受其犹太背景的影响,那么精神分析运动的其他创始成员也是如此。 丹尼斯克莱因写道 精神分析运动的犹太起源:

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“从 1902 年开始到 1906 年,所有 17 名成员都是犹太人。 这个数字的全部意义再次在于他们看待自己的方式,因为分析家意识到他们是犹太人,并经常保持犹太人的目标和团结感。 ……这种积极的犹太人自豪感构成了精神分析圈运动的母体:作为重新独立的动力,它加强了成员之间的联系,并增强了他们作为救赎精英的自我形象。”[8]丹尼斯 B 克莱因, 精神分析运动的犹太起源,芝加哥大学出版社,1985 年,p。 十一.

卡尔·荣格是个例外,弗洛伊德于 1910 年任命他为国际精神分析协会主席,正是为了转移人们对精神分析是“犹太科学”的指责。[9]安德鲁·海因策 犹太人与美国灵魂:二十世纪的人性,普林斯顿大学出版社,2004年。 有趣的是,荣格是唯一一个从未认同​​弗洛伊德婴儿性欲理论的成员。 在回应卡尔亚伯拉罕的一封信中,他抱怨说“荣格似乎正在恢复他以前的唯心主义倾向”,弗洛伊德解释说:“对你来说,遵循我的想法比荣格更容易,因为……你站得更近由于种族血缘关系,我的智力体质(Rassenverwandtschaft)。”弗洛伊德要求亚伯拉罕不要与荣格为敌,因为“正是因为他出现在现场,精神分析才逃过了成为犹太民族事件的危险。”[10]摩西·格雷瑟, 双重效忠:弗洛伊德作为现代犹太人, 纽约州立大学出版社,1994 年,p。 138; 库迪希, 文明的考验,同上。 引用, p.页。 77. XNUMX。

与荣格相反,亚伯拉罕是弗洛伊德婴儿性欲理论最狂热的支持者。 在 精神分析运动的历史, 1919 年,弗洛伊德写道:“关于创伤性病因学问题的最后一句话是亚伯拉罕后来说的,当时他提请注意这样一个事实,即儿童性体质的特殊性质使其能够引发特殊类型的性体验。 ,也就是说,创伤”(自我造成的创伤,可以这么说)。 弗洛伊德指的是亚伯拉罕在 1907 年发表的一篇论文,“性创伤的体验作为一种性活动的形式”。 东正教拉比的儿子亚伯拉罕也是弗洛伊德的门徒中最具种族中心主义色彩的,这或许很重要。 他在 1913 年写了一篇文章“论神经质的异族通婚”,诊断那些说他们“永远不能嫁给犹太人”的犹太男人患有“失望的乱伦之爱”导致的神经症。[11]卡尔·亚伯拉罕,“论神经质异族通婚”,在 精神分析的临床论文和论文:卡尔·亚伯拉罕论文选,编辑。 希尔达亚伯拉罕,翻译。 Hilda Abraham 和 DR Elison,Basic Books,1955,p。 48-50。

5. 否认、投射、倒置

我认为弗洛伊德放弃诱惑理论及其被俄狄浦斯情结掩盖的动机,至少是半无意识的,弗洛伊德不仅对他的父亲,而且对他的犹太社区的忠诚。 在 1890 年代,弗洛伊德的客户完全来自犹太中产阶级。 想象一下,如果弗洛伊德的诱惑理论为他赢得了他渴望的认可:尽管他在案例研究中伪装了患者的身份,但不久之后他的工作就会受到攻击,不仅是“犹太科学”,而且是证据犹太风俗的堕落。

然而,我不认为弗洛伊德有意识地以这种方式进行推理。 当他对病人家属的乱伦性行为视而不见时,他的失明不是假的,而是心理上的束缚; 盲目性是犹太人的特征。 从本质上讲,犹太人是一种信念,从最早的时代就深深地内化了犹太人优于非犹太人的信念——“选择”。 任何与这种优势相矛盾的东西都会造成认知失调,而这种失调会被否认所克服。

否认意味着投射:为了保护犹太家庭(包括他自己的家庭)虐待儿童的肮脏秘密,弗洛伊德向全人类投射了一种想象中被压抑的婴儿变态。 反过来,投射意味着倒置:弗洛伊德的亲密弟子奥托·兰克声称犹太人的性行为比外邦人更原始,因此也更健康(兰克,“犹太教的本质”,1905 年)。 弗洛伊德主义者和弗洛伊德马克思主义者系统地谴责基督教文明遭受性压抑。 根据威廉·赖希 (Wilhelm Reich) 的说法,反犹太主义本身就是性挫折的一种症状,可以通过性解放来治愈。法西斯主义的大众心理学, 1934)——对 Leo Pinsker 的理论的改进,即犹太恐惧症是一种“遗传性”和“无法治愈的”“疾病传播了两千年”。[12]莱昂·平斯克(Leon Pinsker), 自我解放:俄罗斯犹太人对他的人民的呼吁, 1882, 在 www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/pinsker.html 为了理解这个 Reichian 弥赛亚使命治愈基督教西方的心理背景,为了更清楚地看到压抑的精神分析理论的投射性质,了解 Wilhelm Reich 的个人故事是有帮助的,它读作弗洛伊德的漫画:十岁时,当他意识到他的母亲与他的导师有染时,年轻的威廉想到要勒索他的母亲与他发生性关系。 最终,他向父亲吐露了他母亲通奸的事。 1910 年,在受到父亲的一段时间殴打后,他的母亲自杀了,赖希为此自责。[13]迈伦·沙拉夫 地球之怒:威廉·赖希传记, 圣马丁出版社,1983 年,由 Gilad Atzmon 在 及时:后政治宣言, 摩天大楼,2017 年,第 93-94 页。

犹太人与东道国关系中最令人费解的方面之一是其矛盾性——以圣经“历史”为模式:在犹太人的思想中,拯救和摧毁国家不是同一枚硬币的两个方面,而是同一个方面,因为国家应该被治愈的是他们的身份(他们的神,在圣经中)。 根据安德鲁·海因策 (Andrew Heinze) 的说法, 犹太人与美国灵魂,犹太人塑造了“美国关于思想和灵魂的观念”,全神贯注于“清除他们与基督教文明相关的罪恶”。[14]安德鲁·海因策 犹太人与美国灵魂:二十世纪的人性,普林斯顿大学出版社,2006 年,第 3 页,第 352 页。 它真的始于弗洛伊德。 1909 年 XNUMX 月,弗洛伊德应邀在新英格兰进行系列讲座,开玩笑地问他的同伴桑多尔·费伦齐和卡尔·荣格:“他们不知道我们给他们带来了瘟疫吗?”[15]乔治·普罗奇尼克 普特南营:西格蒙德·弗洛伊德、詹姆斯·杰克逊·普特南和美国心理学的目的, 其他出版社,2006 年,p。 422. 一位假装找到了治疗神经症的“方法”的医生的非凡声明。 还有一个预言:弗洛伊德主义成为性“解放”的理由,回想起来可以看作是对青年的大规模性虐待。

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6. B'nai B'rith 和成名之路

一个惊人的巧合是,弗洛伊德于 1897 年 3 月加入了最近成立的 B'nai B'rith,这正是他皈依婴儿性行为教条的时间。 丹尼斯·克莱因在他的书(“精神分析运动的预示:弗洛伊德和 B'nai B'rith”)的第 1901 章中写道,在被剥夺教授职位的痛苦失望之后,“弗洛伊德通过 B'nai B' rith,他生活中的职业和社会真空。” 在他最富有成效的头十年里,他几乎参加了每一次会议,都是非常活跃的成员。 他招募了至少三名成员,并于 1939 年成为维也纳第二间小屋和谐小屋的创始人。 同年,他发表了题为“B'nai B'rith Societies 的目标和宗旨”的演讲。 弗洛伊德经常在出版之前向 B'nai B'rith 展示他的作品。 在这方面,克莱因写道,维也纳的 B'nai B'rith 旅馆“是精神分析运动的先驱”。 “在他 XNUMX 年去世后,维也纳的 B'nai B'rith 继续无情地支持他生前对这位著名的'兄弟'的支持。”[16]丹尼斯·B·克莱因, 精神分析运动的犹太起源, 芝加哥大学出版社, 1985, p. 74; Alain Lelouch,“弗洛伊德 (1856-1939) au B'nai B'rith”,https://www.bbfrance.org/Freud-1856-1939-au-B-nai-B-...4.html

B'nai B'rith 共济会会议对弗洛伊德从诱惑理论转向俄狄浦斯理论的影响有多大? 谁也说不准。 然而,我们可以相当肯定,弗洛伊德在 B'nai B'rith 的成员资格对他成为主要的知识分子明星和现代性大师之一产生了影响。

作为一名科学家,弗洛伊德是一个失败者,他被自己的潜意识和不切实际的自信所欺骗,认为他可以通过自我分析来解开人类之谜。 他也是一个冒名顶替者,在他发表的案例研究中,他发明了没有治疗方法的治疗方法(正如对他的患者真实传记的调查所显示的那样)。[17]理查德·韦伯斯特 为什么弗洛伊德是错的, 奥威尔版,2005 年。 的确,他有时很有洞察力。 但是弗洛伊德作为“无意识的发现者”的圣徒形象是完全没有根据的,正如亨利·埃伦伯格在他的经典研究中所表明的那样, 潜意识的发现:

“在整个 XNUMX 世纪,存在着一个全面的动态精神病学系统。 ......第一个动态精神病学的基本特征是使用催眠作为一种进入无意识思维的方法,对称为“磁性疾病”的某些特定条件的兴趣,具有意识和无意识自我的双重思维模式的概念,相信许多情绪和身体状况的心理发生,以及特定心理治疗程序的使用; 治疗渠道被视为催眠师和患者之间的“融洽关系”。 ……第一个动态精神病学的文化影响远比人们普遍认为的要大得多。”[18]亨利·埃伦伯格(Henri F. 无意识的发现:动态精神病学的历史和演变, 基础书籍,1981,p。 七.

可以很容易地争辩说,在心理学方面,弗洛伊德所说的每一个明智的事情都在他面前说过,而他所说的几乎所有以前没有说过的话都被证明是错误的。

那么为什么弗洛伊德会如此出名呢? 长的答案是,弗洛伊德受益于产生许多其他犹太知识分子“天才”的同一种交流网络,并让法国小说家安德烈·纪德在 1914 年(在他的日记中)评论“这种不断强调犹太人的倾向,......倾向于认识到他的才能,甚至是天才”[19]安德烈·吉德 Œuvres 完成, 加利马德,1933 年,第 VIII 卷,第 571 页。 XNUMX. 对上述问题的简短回答是:B'nai B'rith。 我不会建议 B'nai B'rith 支持弗洛伊德的俄狄浦斯理论,因为他们看到了西方道德败坏的潜力。 我也不认为 B'nai B'rith 和弗洛伊德用婴儿性行为的瘟疫观念密谋破坏西方文明。 但我确实建议,如果弗洛伊德坚持他早先对他的犹太病人遭受虐待的现实的信念,他就不会得到那么多的支持。

为了澄清这一点,不妨回顾一下 B'nai B'rith 令人难忘的权力展示,这与弗洛伊德的知识分子传记有着明显的相关性。 1913 年,B'nai B'rith 成立了反诽谤联盟,以挽救 B'nai B'rith 亚特兰大分会富有的年轻主席 Leo Frank 的生命和声誉,他被判强奸和谋杀了在他的铅笔厂工作的 XNUMX 岁女孩 Mary Phagan。 弗兰克有罪的证据是压倒性的,但为他的法律辩护——包括虚假证词——部署了大量的财政资源,并且在新闻媒体上精心策划了一场激烈的宣传, “纽约时报” 对案件进行了大量报道。 我引用自 Ron Unz 的文章:

“近两年来,弗兰克的支持者动用了近乎无限的资金来支付州和联邦层面的 XNUMX 次单独上诉的费用,包括向美国最高法院提出上诉,而国家媒体则被用来无休止地诋毁佐治亚州的司法系统。最严厉的条款。 自然,这很快引起了当地的反应,在此期间,愤怒的格鲁吉亚人开始谴责那些花费巨资颠覆当地刑事司法系统的富有的犹太人。 ......所有上诉最终都被驳回,弗兰克因强奸和谋杀年轻女孩而被处决的日期终于临近。 但就在弗兰克即将卸任的前几天,即将卸任的乔治亚州州长对弗兰克进行减刑,引发了一场巨大的民众抗议风暴,特别是因为他是弗兰克首席辩护律师的法律合伙人,这显然存在利益冲突。 ……几周后,一群乔治亚州公民冲进了弗兰克的监狱农场,绑架并绞死了他,弗兰克成为美国历史上第一个也是唯一一个被私刑处死的犹太人。”

由于犹太权力精英的动员——“作为一个人”——,Leo Frank 已经从一个被定罪的恋童癖者和儿童谋杀犯变成了一个反犹太主义的烈士。 我们不知道弗洛伊德对此案有何看法,但他的“攻击真理”与 B'nai B'rith 之间存在明显的共鸣。 如果年轻的玛丽·帕根在她惨死之前拜访了一位弗洛伊德精神分析师,并抱怨她老板的性暗示,她可能会被告知她自己的“阴茎嫉妒”; 如果她提出抗议,她就会被告知她的抗议证明了她的性压抑——正如弗洛伊德的病人多拉所发生的那样,她的真名艾达·鲍尔是一名患有歇斯底里症状的 XNUMX 岁女孩。[20]凯文·麦克唐纳(Kevin MacDonald), 批判文化:关于犹太人卷入XNUMX世纪知识和政治运动的进化论, 普拉格,1998 年,p。 124.

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7. 以撒情结

儿子被压抑的谋杀父亲的愿望也许是弗洛伊德最丰富的直觉。 问题在于弗洛伊德的滥用概括。 只有一个具有破坏性和操纵性的父亲的神经质儿子才会有“杀死父亲”的压抑愿望。 弗洛伊德在自己身上发现了这种冲动,并混淆了他对普遍规律的科学探索的自我分析,他将其投射到全人类身上。 但是,弗洛伊德的犹太门徒都发现了同样的冲动,而且弗洛伊德主义被犹太人广泛接受,这一事实表明弗洛伊德的概括并非没有道理。 它只是受到犹太知识分子将犹太问题投射到全人类的倾向的影响。 孩子被压抑的想要杀死父亲的愿望并不是普遍的人类,但可能具有犹太人的特征。 因为犹太父亲是犹太人的守护者,是犹太神的代表。 每个犹太人都渴望在他的灵魂深处摆脱耶和华,这位典型的虐待和阉割的父亲。 正如菲利普·罗斯(Philip Roth)的角色 Smilesburger 在 夏洛克行动:“为了吸引疯子, 暴力 父亲,三千年来,做一个疯狂的犹太人就是这样!”[21]菲利普·罗斯 夏洛克行动:忏悔, 西蒙和舒斯特,1993,p。 110. 因此,谋杀犹太父亲的秘密愿望也是对犹太神死亡的秘密愿望。 因此,它与西奥多·莱辛认为无一例外地影响着每个犹太人的所谓“犹太人的自我仇恨”是相同的:“没有一个犹太血统的人至少无法察觉到犹太人自我仇恨的开始。 。”[22]西奥多·莱辛 La Haine de soi: ou le refus d'être juif (1930),Pocket,2011 年,第 68 页。

通过选择希腊神话作为他理论的隐喻,弗洛伊德将犹太人的问题投射到外邦人身上。 如果他认出这个情结的犹太人意味,他可能会称它为“以撒情结”,因为以撒是亚伯拉罕愿意屠杀的儿子。

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“艾萨克情结”一词实际上已被法国异端人士使用 心理分析家 让-皮埃尔·弗雷斯科,他将其定义为“父亲被认为具有心理威胁、破坏或杀人行为在儿子心理中的总体后果。”[23]让-皮埃尔·弗雷斯科,“卡夫卡与以撒的复合体” ,” Le Coq-Héron, 2003/2 (n° 173), pp. 108-120, 在 www.cairn.info/revue-le-coq-heron-2003-2-page-108.htm Fresco 称这样的父亲为“亚伯拉罕”。 他从阅读弗朗茨·卡夫卡 (Franz Kafka) 的自传和死后出版的著作中汲取了自己的见解。 给父亲的信, 卡夫卡在其中描述了父亲对他人格的毁灭性影响,他的教育方式是“虐待、威胁、讽刺、恶意的笑声,而且——奇怪的是——自怜”。 卡夫卡还写信给他的父亲:“我的写作都是关于你的,毕竟我在那里所做的一切,就是哀叹我无法在你胸前哀叹的东西。”

卡夫卡的主要小说自传中提到 他与父亲的关系及其有害的心理后果。 变形记 讲述了格里高尔·萨姆萨 (Gregor Samsa) 变成了一只被父亲追杀的令人厌恶的昆虫,在场景中,父亲用拐杖从后面袭击儿子,敲打他的脚,“像野人一样推出咝咝声”,这暗示了他的乱伦暴力。 ” 格雷戈尔死后,他的妹妹格蕾特出现了,他是异性的替身,同性恋儿子。 在 该判决, 格奥尔格(格雷戈尔的变位词)刚刚与弗里达·布兰登菲尔德(与卡夫卡刚开始约会的女人菲利斯·鲍尔的首字母缩写相同)订婚,并向他的父亲宣布了这一消息。 父亲反对这种婚姻计划的可怕禁令,并伴随着极端自恋的暴力行为。 父亲禁止通过婚姻获得解放与乱伦支配有关,当乔治顺从地向父亲求婚时,这种支配变得清晰起来。 壁画在卡夫卡的小说中也找到了父亲的心灵痕迹 审判,他的叙述者约瑟夫 K. 在不知道谁诽谤他,也不知道谁会审判他的情况下被捕。 根据 Fresco 的说法,这个无法理解且无所不能的诽谤者-指控者-法官是“一位古老的亚伯拉罕父亲的翻版,他无意识地被内射为一个古老而虐待狂的超我,并变成了一个内心的迫害者。”

我觉得非常重要的是,卡夫卡——他自己承认——从他作为一个精神病父亲的儿子的经历中汲取灵感,而他的犹太文学评论家认为他是典型的犹太人。 “众所周知,”哈罗德·布鲁姆说,“卡夫卡不仅是最强大的现代犹太作家,而且 练习 犹太作家。”[24]Yosef Hayim Yerushalmi 的“前言”, 扎科尔:犹太历史和犹太记忆 (1982), 华盛顿大学出版社,2011年。 (因此 以色列长达十年的法律斗争 以确保他的亲笔手稿成为国宝。)卡夫卡和他的批评者谁是对的? 他的天才是因为他是犹太人,还是因为他有一个精神病态的父亲? 显然,无法区分这两个因素,因为精神病父亲恰好是犹太人; 用 Fresco 的话说,他是典型的“亚伯拉罕之父”。 但是,就犹太人的身份而言,不是所有的犹太父亲都是亚伯拉罕的吗? 难道犹太神不是一个精神病态的父亲——而精神病态的父亲是一个犹太神吗?

卡夫卡认为他施虐狂的父亲是一个残酷的神,他的法律完全是专断的,但却是不容置疑的,就像犹太神一样:“对我来说,作为一个孩子,你对我的一切呼唤都是天上的诫命,”他在他的著作中写道。 给父亲的信。 “从你的扶手椅上你统治了世界。 你的意见是正确的,其他人都疯了,狂野的,meshugge,不正常。 你的自信确实如此之大,以至于你根本不需要始终如一,却从未停止过正确的做法。”

“因此,世界对我来说分为三个部分:一个是我,奴隶,生活在仅为我发明的法律之下,我不知道为什么,永远无法完全遵守; 然后是第二个世界,它离我无限遥远,你生活在那里,关心政府,关心命令的发布,以及不服从命令的烦恼; 最后是第三个世界,在那里其他人都可以幸福地生活,不受命令和服从。 我一直处于耻辱之中; 要么我服从了你的命令,那是一种耻辱,因为它们毕竟只适用于我; 或者我是挑衅,那也是一种耻辱,因为我怎么敢违抗你; 或者我不能服从,因为我没有,例如,你的力量,你的胃口,你的技能,尽管你理所当然地期望我这样做; 这是最大的耻辱。”

八、八天包皮环切的创伤

最重要的是,亚伯拉罕的父亲是对亚伯拉罕的诫命的执行者:“他一出生八天,你所有的男性,世世代代,都要受割礼”(创世记 17:12)。 如果弗洛伊德保留他对性虐待对儿童心理伤害的最初见解,他可能最终会反思新生儿包皮环切术的影响。 但他在这个问题上一直相当谨慎——尽管他自己的儿子没有接受割礼。 他在他的最新著作中提到了这一点,但只是在人类学推测的背景下。 在 新的精神分析导论, 他推测“在人类家庭的原始时期,经常由嫉妒和残忍的父亲对成长中的男孩进行阉割”,并且“割礼在原始人的青春期仪式中如此频繁地发挥作用,是一种明显可识别的它的遗物。”[25]西格蒙德·弗洛伊德, 心理分析新入门讲座 (1933 年),霍加斯出版社,1964 年,p。 86. 弗洛伊德更进一步 摩西与一神教:

“割礼是阉割的象征性替代品,这是原始父亲很久以前因其权力的可怕而对他的儿子们进行的惩罚,无论谁接受了这一象征,这样做都表明他已准备好服从父亲的意愿,尽管它是以痛苦的牺牲为代价的。”[26]西格蒙德·弗洛伊德, 摩西与一神教, 霍加斯出版社, 1939, p. 192.

有趣的是,弗洛伊德最初是从 Sandor Ferenczi 那里得到这个想法的,他在一篇给弗洛伊德留下深刻印象的文章中写道,割礼是“一种激发恐惧的手段,是父亲阉割的象征”。[27]桑多尔·费伦齐, 对精神分析理论和技术的进一步贡献 (1926),霍加特出版社,1999,p。 228.

但是我们注意到,在上面的引文中,弗洛伊德不是指犹太人对八天大的孩子进行割礼,而是指对青春期男孩的割礼。 鉴于弗洛伊德思想传记中的犹太人暗流,可以合理地假设他无法处理犹太新生儿割礼问题与他拒绝面对虐待儿童的毁灭性现实有关。 每个犹太男性遭受的第一次虐待不是来自他的父母和亲属,就是第八天的割礼吗? 它在身体上给每个犹太人和所有犹太人留下了深刻的印象,即耶和华和他的圣约的创伤性统治。

罗纳德戈德曼教授研究了新生儿包皮环切术的心理影响,在没有麻醉的情况下进行并导致无法忍受的疼痛,他是 割礼,隐藏的创伤。 他的研究表明,仪式后母子结合过程中出现了干扰。[28]罗纳德·戈德曼, 包皮环切术,隐藏的创伤:美国的文化习俗如何影响婴儿,并最终影响我们所有人, 先锋队(Vanguard),1997年。 证词来自 “观察包皮环切术的母亲” 表明母亲的内疚也是等式的一部分。 这是伊丽莎白·皮卡德·金斯堡的一篇:

“我觉得我无法从中恢复过来。 [...] 我们有这个漂亮的男婴和七个美好的日子,这个美好的节奏开始了,就像有什么东西被打破了! ......当他第一次出生时,我和我的孩子,我的新生儿有联系。 当割礼发生时,为了允许它,我不得不切断联系。 我不得不切断我的本能,这样做我切断了对杰西的很多感情。 我切断了它以抑制疼痛并抑制停止割礼的自然本能。”

弗洛伊德和他的犹太男性门徒在他们被压抑的无意识中发现的不自然的乱伦愿望,也许可以解释为新生儿割礼创伤导致母子结合受到抑制的结果。 在这个年龄造成的创伤几乎没有机会恢复意识并得到治愈。 根据 1906 年的说法,可能需要对犹太人割礼与事实之间的可能联系进行更多研究。 犹太百科全书,“犹太人比他们居住的其他种族和民族更容易患神经系统疾病。”[29]“神经疾病”,作者:Joseph Jacobs 和 Maurice Fishberg,在 www.jewishency
clopedia.com/articles/11446-nervous-diseases。
社会学家 Leo Srole 在 1962 年所做的研究表明,犹太人的神经症和性格障碍的发生率大约是天主教徒和新教徒的三倍。[30]里奥·斯洛尔 大都市的心理健康:曼哈顿中城研究, 麦格劳-希尔,1962 年,纽约大学,1978 年; 内森·阿吉,“神经质的犹太人”, 灯塔, 十二月5,2011。

In 幻觉的未来, 西格蒙德弗洛伊德将“宗教”——本质上意味着基督教——描述为一种“普遍的强迫性神经症”,它对信徒来说具有“他们对普遍神经症的接受使他们免于构建个人神经症的任务”的优点。[31]西格蒙德·弗洛伊德, 幻觉的未来, 霍加斯出版社,1928 年 , p.页。 76. XNUMX。 用类似的方法,犹太教可以被描述为“集体反社会”。 这并不意味着“犹太人”是反社会的,而是根据他们作为犹太人的认同程度,他们是塔纳克人的反社会心态的受害者,“在他们的肉体上留下了印记”(在他们的身上留下了创伤性的印象)潜意识)通过割礼,并由他们的精英以反犹太主义的偏执狂推波助澜。 根据弗洛伊德的说法,集体反社会病和个体反社会病之间的区别与集体神经病和个体神经病之间的区别是相同的:集体反社会心态的参与允许社区成员将反社会倾向引向社区外部,并在内部保持高度社交程度。

洛朗·盖伊诺特(LaurentGuyénot)博士是《 从耶和华到锡安:嫉妒的上帝,被选的人,应许之地……文明的冲突, 2018和 JFK-9 / 11:深度状态的50年,进步出版社,2014年.

说明

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[2] 例如,尼古拉斯·亚伯拉罕 (Nicolas Abraham) 和玛丽亚·托洛克 (Maria Török), L'Écorce et le Noyau, Aubier-Flammarion,1978 年。

[3] 约翰·默里·库迪希 文明的考验:弗洛伊德、马克思、列维-施特劳斯和犹太人与现代性的斗争, Delta Book, 1974 (on archive.org),第 4 章,第 48-57 页。

[4] 欧内斯特·琼斯 西格蒙德·弗洛伊德的生活和工作,卷 1, 形成年代和伟大的发现,1856-1900, 基础书籍, 1953, p. 22,引自约翰·默里·库迪希 (John Murray Cuddihy), 文明的考验:弗洛伊德、马克思、列维-施特劳斯和犹太人与现代性的斗争, Delta Book, 1974 (在archive.org), p. 24.

[5] 理查德·伯恩斯坦, 弗洛伊德和摩西的遗产, 剑桥大学,1998 年,p。 1、上 http://assets.cambridge.org/97805216/30962/sample/9780521630962web.pdf

[6] 西格蒙德·弗洛伊德,“论 B'nai B'rith 的存在”,转载于 评论,1946 年 23 月,第 24-XNUMX 页,引自 Peter Homans, 哀悼的能力:精神分析的幻灭和社会起源, 芝加哥大学出版社,1989年,第71页。 XNUMX。

[7] 伊万·博佐门·纳吉(Ivan Boszormenyi-Nagy), 看不见的忠诚:代际家庭治疗中的互惠, 哈珀与罗(Harper&Row),1973年。

[8] 丹尼斯 B 克莱因, 精神分析运动的犹太起源,芝加哥大学出版社,1985 年,p。 十一.

[9] 安德鲁·海因策 犹太人与美国灵魂:二十世纪的人性,普林斯顿大学出版社,2004年。

[10] 摩西·格雷瑟, 双重效忠:弗洛伊德作为现代犹太人, 纽约州立大学出版社,1994 年,p。 138; 库迪希, 文明的考验,同上。 引用, p.页。 77. XNUMX。

[11] 卡尔·亚伯拉罕,“论神经质异族通婚”,在 精神分析的临床论文和论文:卡尔·亚伯拉罕论文选,编辑。 希尔达亚伯拉罕,翻译。 Hilda Abraham 和 DR Elison,Basic Books,1955,p。 48-50。

[12] 莱昂·平斯克(Leon Pinsker), 自我解放:俄罗斯犹太人对他的人民的呼吁1882年 www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/pinsker.html

[13] 迈伦·沙拉夫 地球之怒:威廉·赖希传记, 圣马丁出版社,1983 年,由 Gilad Atzmon 在 及时:后政治宣言, 摩天大楼,2017 年,第 93-94 页。

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[16] 丹尼斯·B·克莱因, 精神分析运动的犹太起源, 芝加哥大学出版社, 1985, p. 74; 阿兰·鲁鲁修 (Alain Lelouch),“弗洛伊德 (1856-1939) au B'nai B'rith”,上 https://www.bbfrance.org/Freud-1856-1939-au-B-nai-B-rith_a24.html

[17] 理查德·韦伯斯特 为什么弗洛伊德是错的, 奥威尔版,2005 年。

[18] 亨利·埃伦伯格(Henri F. 无意识的发现:动态精神病学的历史和演变, 基础书籍,1981,p。 七.

[19] 安德烈·吉德 Œuvres 完成, 加利马德,1933 年,第 VIII 卷,第 571 页。 XNUMX.

[20] 凯文·麦克唐纳(Kevin MacDonald), 批判文化:关于犹太人卷入XNUMX世纪知识和政治运动的进化论, 普拉格,1998 年,p。 124.

[21] 菲利普·罗斯 夏洛克行动:忏悔, 西蒙和舒斯特,1993,p。 110.

[22] 西奥多·莱辛 La Haine de soi: ou le refus d'être juif (1930),Pocket,2011 年,第 68 页。

[23] 让-皮埃尔·弗雷斯科,“卡夫卡与以撒的复合体” ,” Le Coq-Héron, 2003/2 (n° 173), pp. 108-120, on www.caorn.info/revue-le-coq-heron-2003-2-page-108.htm

[24] Yosef Hayim Yerushalmi 的“前言”, 扎科尔:犹太历史和犹太记忆 (1982), 华盛顿大学出版社,2011年。

[25] 西格蒙德·弗洛伊德, 心理分析新入门讲座 (1933 年),霍加斯出版社,1964 年,p。 86.

[26] 西格蒙德·弗洛伊德, 摩西与一神教, 霍加斯出版社, 1939, p. 192.

[27] 桑多尔·费伦齐, 对精神分析理论和技术的进一步贡献 (1926),霍加特出版社,1999,p。 228.

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[31] 西格蒙德·弗洛伊德, 幻觉的未来, 霍加斯出版社,1928 年 , p.页。 76. XNUMX。

 
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  1. It’s an interesting piece. Two related questions come to mind.

    First, the piece is of course about Freud’s psychology and that of Jews in general, and that psychology is portrayed as diseased, which perhaps it is…but it’s implicitly contrasted with the undefined but apparently uniform and healthy psychology of everyone else.

    Is that really at all accurate? Leaving aside the question of how ‘healthy’ the psychology of each group is, are the psychologies of, say, German gentiles, Mexicans, and Japanese really all that similar? One suspects that Jewish psychology might be better seen as merely one of a variety of group psychologies — each of which has its unique and variously pleasant or unpleasant aspects. For example, on Hawaii, I have seen a ‘local’ woman break down in a market and start crying and complaining of the voices in her head — perhaps something peculiar to her ethnicity and culture? In Malay culture, running ‘amok’ is an established response to stress (perhaps we’ve hit upon the same mechanism ourselves of late).

    And so on. I’d say my point is that whatever the peculiarities of Jewish psychology, it should be borne in mind that the psychologies of other groups may be equally peculiar and twisted — perhaps even more so.

    Second, this piece is discussing the psychology of a partially assimilated Ashkenazi Jew and his kin. Is it really all that descriptive of Jews in all places and times? Would it, for example, have any relevance at all to the mentality of a Sephardic Jew in twelfth century Muslim Spain? A Yemeni Jew today? All this tells us a lot about Freud et al — does it describe Maimonides? Possibly — but to say the least, that has yet to be demonstrated. There’s Abraham and circumcision and all that — but even then, is the significance and effect of these uniform across time and culture? Do Bokharan Jews experience a castration complex?

    None of this is to dismiss the piece — which I actually found unusually thought provoking. It’s just that like most things worth reading, it in turn raises further questions.

  2. Alden 说:

    Off topic history channel has a program about the DNA of holocaust survivors being permanently altered by the stress or whatever. And all their descendants from now have this altered DNA. Program cited a scientific American article supposedly proved this.

    In other news Anti Pope Francis, satan’s minion, has desecrated Bernini and Michelangelo’s masterpiece., St Peter’s square with a hideous 2 ton statute of African refugees and immigrants with angel wings. The Vatican wall was hastily built cerca 850AD as a defensive wall because that part of Italy was occupied by Muslim bandits. Now this anti Pope welcomes them.

  3. Paul 说:

    The problem with Freud: Where was his data?

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  4. Anonymous[136]• 免责声明 说:

    I think Freud drew general inferences, not always valid, about human sexuality from the rather peculiar society of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Especially Vienna. This was a society in which military officers were almost expected to seduce servant girls, yet also killed one another over “matters of honour” at a time when fatal duels had ended elsewhere in Europe.
    Arthur Schnitzler, himself of Jewish origin, wrote about this in often controversial stories or plays. One of them was taken by Stanley Kubrick as the basis for 大开眼戒 and the somewhat hothoused sexuality of the film seemed to me more 去世界 Vienna than the USA in the 1990s. The death of Crown Prince Rudolf with a mistress in possible suicide-murder circumstances was another example of the atmosphere of the time.

  5. mastodon 说:

    谢谢劳伦特。

    您的意见,Ron Unz 和本网站其他人的意见帮助完成了这幅图。

    作为一个物种,我们确实有问题,这一切都是相互关联的,这个部落是我们故意误导的重要组成部分,我很确定我们很可能最终灭亡。

    保持了出色的工作。

    和平

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    , @Wally
    , @PorkTastic
  6. A.R. 说:

    Guyenot 先生再次发表了一篇非常有趣且发人深省的文章。

  7. Franz 说:

    Excellent points as always, Mr. Guyénot.

    For my latest excursions into Judaism it brings up a further and more troubling possibility.

    Freud did not take into account the destructive “father” of Judaism himself, Abraham, because if he had there would be a rich trove of criminality in the “idol smashing” account in the Book of Jubilees.

    Abraham, then called Abram, destroys his father’s shop and business by smashing and burning all the “lifeless idols” on site. Yet there is no description of what the idols actually were. Perhaps only sports mascots, business logos, or even only family bric-a-brak. Abram never says, he simply destroys and giggles his way out into the world to start “monotheism”.

    I detect a “kill the father” motive in that, because the story as either legend OR history makes zero sense.

    But either way, Judaism starts with an attack by the Founder on his father, and a more perfect account of psychotic destruction with total lack of remorse is not available.

    Jews themselves appear quite proud of their creed’s founder. A short, lucid and totally amoral account of it is a recent arrival called The Gods Are Broken:

    And the idea that Abraham was simply a felon who didn’t get caught never crosses the rabbi/author’s mind. Amazing!

  8. annamaria 说:

    “In 1913, the B’nai B’rith created the Anti-Defamation League to save the life and the reputation of Leo Frank, the wealthy young president of the Atlanta chapter of B’nai B’rith, who was convicted of the rape and murder of Mary Phagan, a thirteen-year-old girl working in his pencil factory. The evidence for Frank’s guilt was overwhelming, but tremendous financial resources were deployed for his legal defense—including false testimonies…”

    — It is never too often to remind the B’nai B’rith, and its dirty creation the Anti-Defamation League, about the crime of Leo Frank — the rape and murder of Mary Phagan, a thirteen-year-old girl.

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  9. Richard B 说:

    这让我想起了弗洛伊德如何在他的大多数犹太客户中偶然发现虐待儿童的普遍现实的故事,用所有小女孩都渴望父亲的阴茎而所有小男孩都梦想操弄母亲的理论来掩盖它——并以一个外邦神话命名他的理论。

    And this great quote reminds me of a line from the movie The Departed.

    There’s that one scene (chock-o-block full of pseudo-intellectual cringe) where Matt Damon’s character is talking to the woman psychologist and she mentions a quote from Fraud, I mean Freud, about the Irish.

    “The Irish are the only race impervious to psychoanalysis.”

    As soon as I heard that line I leaned over and said to my friends, “Pfft. Why do you think he made up psychoanalysis? So THEY could hide.”

    This was in NYC too.

    Of course, I spoke in hushed tones to avoid having the rest of our night disrupted by The KKK.

    The Kvetcching Kosher Khazars.

    One good thing that’s happening today is that Jewish Supremacy Inc. is being deconstructed and with far better and more profound intellectual tools than the ones they use to fabricate lies about Whites (and anyone else who goes off the JSI reservation). Something that, so far at least, they’ve been able to do with impunity (so much for White Supremacy).

    The bad news is, though JSI is being deconstructed, it’s not being dismantled.

    至少还没有。

    What needs to be done is perfectly obvious. The superstructure of JSI needs to be dismantled so that people can recover their freedom.

    They know that much. Which is why they’re pumping up the volume, so to speak, and pulling all the stops.

    Whether it ever will be dismantled or not I don’t know.

    But I have no doubt that it will collapse on its own.

    In fact, we’re witnessing is The Pyrrhic Victory of Jewish Supremacy Inc.

    Who ever heard of rebuilding civilization on a foundation of ridicule, sarcasm, shame, blame, misrepresentation, denial and projection?

    Who ever heard of building one’s future on a Ponzi Scheme?

    How can you sustain power by continuously violating people you’re dependent on?

    JSI = Criminal Psychopathy.

    Just as their DNC = Demonic Narcissistic Communists and their RNC = Repressed Neo Cucks.

    This is why they’re destroying our basic freedoms. So they can rewrite history based on an impossible to believe in Myth Of Innocence that says, in effect, “We never do anything wrong. Things are done to us!”

    The real Supremacists are those who have the power to effectuate their insane demands to be

    1.置于批评之上
    2.无条件地被爱
    3.盲目服从

    That’s the reason and ultimate objective for their many scams, including psychoanalysis.

    • 回复: @Tsigantes
  10. Miggle 说:

    Thanks, Laurent. Mind boggling!

    It would take me a few more readings to digest all this, but the essence seems to be an objective demonstration that Judaism is an imposed psychiatric disorder. That explains a lot of things, all the lying, the false inventions of Jewish history etc. etc.

    And of course, the insane accusations of “anti-Semitism” when other religions have never hated the Jews but the Jews have always hated everyone else. Very psychotic. It’s high time “Holocaust remembrance” was prosecuted as hate speech, which is all it is.

    You make that spectacular by observing that in the USA only one Jew has ever been lynched, and then for excellent, imperative reasons. Yet hundreds, I guess thousands of non-Jews have been lynched, and if there had been 任何 “anti-Semitism” in America, the rope was always at hand, there would 无疑 have been many lynchings of Jews.

    There are claims that the US is different from other countries in this regard. Let’s remember that for a considerable period of US history a very high proportion of its Gentile citizens were of German birth or German descent. The screams of “anti-Semitism” are always bogus. Jews have only ever received justified punishment. (Not necessarily justified in every individual case, except that every one of them is psychotic by definition.)

  11. 可以很容易地争辩说,在心理学方面,弗洛伊德所说的每一个明智的事情都在他面前说过,而他所说的几乎所有以前没有说过的话都被证明是错误的。

    This is probably the best & most truthful part of the article.

    Most other contentions are dubious.

    There is no indication that Jewish family dynamics is more violent & incestuous in comparison with other families we know of & which belong to other cultures. In the case of Freud- his theories are about supposed incestuous heterosexual inclinations in a family & not about pedo homo abuse, as the author, following other investigators, suggests. In fact, one of peculiarities of Freudian theory has been his treatment of homosexuality & especially homosexual pedophilia. His ideas about it reflect Freud’s deep conviction that homosexuality is unhealthy infantile proclivity (he didn’t think it was rooted in biology of brain etc.).

    Then, although many of his clients had been Jewish, most of them were not. They belonged to ordinary Viennese fin de siecle bourgeoisie, both Christian & Jewish (with some Christianized Jews).

    Freud was faced with troublesome question: had so many of his patients been sexually abused by their parents, percentage being 20-30% & more? Of course, numbers are incredible. So he came with Oedipus & Electra complexes etc. And basically- he was right, although not completely. The rate of sex abuse of children by their parents, in any stable modern society, is not even close to the percentages Freud was faced with. Hysteria about that matter resurfaced in American society during the 80s & 90s, with false memory syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome#Sexual_abuse_cases , https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/apr/07/sexual-abuse-false-memory-syndrome ,..)

    Freud was completely right when he dumped most of these stories as fictional. Too many witch-hunt like “inquiries” in America during the 90s destroyed so many otherwise normal families (most of them, by the way, not Jewish).

    The author is correct when he states the obvious: virtually all Freud’s core disciples were Jewish; he emotionally identified with Judaism; Kafka was a genius psycho; Freud was not an original thinker; …

    But: most Freud’s literary & artistic enthusiastic supporters had not been Jewish (Salvador Dali, Thomas Mann, Alfred Hitchcock, ..); apart from Jung, his main detractors were Jewish, the most prominent among them Alfred Adler, as well as more empirically-oriented psychologists & philosophers like Adolf Grunbaum; ..

    And re circumcision, wouldn’t Muslims be even more neurotic than Jews? Can’t we ascribe higher levels of Jewish neuroticism in the Western world to their precarious position of a minority which both does & does not belong to a highly dynamic wider society? As far as I know, Jews in Iran, North Africa or India are not particularly neurotic.

    I could write tons of words in a comment, but this all is probably superfluous. Freud thought of himself as “Darwin of the Mind” & hoped that his “metaphysics of mind” would prove to be as exact as biology or physiology at the turn of the century. There is nothing “subversive” about it, just a failed science & great literature. Freud’s work remains one of the monuments of modern German (and Western) literature, similar to that of literary philosophers like Schopenhauer & Nietzsche- but it is basically useless either as a branch of psychiatry or a therapy. Essentially, Freud was a mythmaker (primal horde, the dynamic unconscious which is subconscious, triple division of mind, complexes, defense mechanisms, eros & thanatos,..). You have all this (and more) in Sophocles, Shakespeare, Schopenhauer & Dostoevsky.

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    And his work is better dissected here:

    当然

  12. Miggle 说:
    @Colin Wright

    it’s implicitly contrasted with the undefined but apparently uniform and healthy psychology of everyone else.

    No it’s not. Anyone call fall prey to psychiatric disorder, paranoia or other insanity. But the point is that the Jews have paranoia imposed on them, and that defines Judaism.

    Look at the victimhood. Every little Jewish child is, before all else, instructed that he or she is a victim of the non-Jews.

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    , @freedom-cat
  13. @Alden

    ‘Off topic history channel has a program about the DNA of holocaust survivors being permanently altered by the stress or whatever. And all their descendants from now have this altered DNA. Program cited a scientific American article supposedly proved this…’

    Lysenko vindicated! We’re back on the right track — or something.

  14. Isabella 说:
    @Alden

    As a one time geneticist, let me say here that although this hypothesis – that stress can alter gene expression – has long held a place in Alternative Health field, that it can cause a transmissible change has never been proven. There is no experimental data, neither is there any change seen in biochemical studies.
    It remains a “maybe it’s so, maybe it aint” idea and should therefor be given very limited credence.

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    , @Patric
  15. Isabella 说:

    There is one very relevant observation about the entire “Oedipus Theory” claim, and that is that it overlooks the main point of the Greek story. It was used as an illustration of what was claimed to be the basis of reality; however it was cut from whole cloth, with nary a single bit of factual, objective, forensic evidence to support it.

    This ignored error is that Oedipus didn’t know the relationship he had towards the King and Queen. It had been forecast that Oedipus would kill the king. Thus he was sent away as a baby, and grew up not knowing who he was, nor his parents. Thus his killing of the King and the marriage to his mother were not the product of some twisted universal psyche, but of ignorance. He married his mother, not because of some sick desire for a woman he 知道 to have been his mother, but because he saw and knew her as an unknown woman to whom he felt an overwhelming attraction [this is a proven reality – called “Same DNA Attraction].
    But he had no knowledge of this.
    That you cannot escape destiny and make matters worse by trying was the point, the central moral, of the story.
    Freud misunderstood it, twisted it and mis-used it for a very sick version of humanity which he successfully sold to a large part of humanity for a very long time. We can see some results of this in effect today.
    It should be added that traditional Jewish religion carries some pretty sick ideas. I’ve never been so close to throwing up as seeing the photos supportive of a report that when the priests carry out their Infant Genital Mutilation of baby boys, lopping off the protective foreskin of their tiny penis, as the babe lay screaming in agony and bleeding, the priest will bend over and suck the blood. I cannot think of anything more perverse and sickening – and that it is practised says so much about how unhealthy much of this religion is.

  16. JoannF 说:

    The “collective sociopathy” theory certainly rings true – Maurice Samuel might have nodded – and so we have the sociopaths installing another abrahamic dad on top of the world (when a prior version has just been discarded), projecting their paternal castration complex on the subhumans they hope to rule and simultaneously, sexually, “liberate.”
    Human psychology (or sexuality) isn’t more complicated than that of the Bonobos (sexuality is by nature
    universally simple) – the endless, language-enabled associations are. If we had any real genius, we would by now have crawled out of this and other mental traps, but it looks more as if we might be falling back into another religious dream phase, where ancient traumata prevail till AI switches them off.
    我等不及了。

  17. JoannF 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Muslims are neurotic as hell.
    This is why the never let psychologists near them,

  18. @Isabella

    The “Oedipous complex” was in reality a “Freud complex” projected on the Gentile world. Jews are apt to project their own vices on others. “Anti-Semitism” is their own hatred of “Goyim” projected on the world.

  19. @Colin Wright

    The generation of “Holocaust survivors” is dying out, and with it the flow of financial “reparations”. This Jewish “discovery” of transgenerational trauma via altered DNA is a trick to keep the flow of reparations going. When this second generation starts dying out, expect a new “discovery” that the trauma is being transmitted even to the third generation. And so on and so on. What is the correct translation of 楚兹帕 again? Right : shamelesness!

    • 回复: @annamaria
    , @Wally
    , @Tsigantes
  20. Alden 说:
    @Isabella

    I certainly don’t believe it. It’s always been my opinion that although Fraudian psychology benefited from Jewish solidarity, it really spread because of sex sex sex. As we all know, sex sells, from pretty girls in laundry soap
    And toothpaste ADs to selling Dr Fraud’s perversions

    • 回复: @annamaria
  21. @Isabella

    That’s old & correct objection. Harold Bloom, (Jewish) American critic, said (and I thought it myself before I’ve read him) that “Hamlet’s complex” would have been more appropriate, because Hamlet hated his mother banging another man (his uncle & stepfather).

    Of course, there remains a question what would Hamlet have felt, had his mother remained a “chaste widow”. Anyway, Plato wrote in one of his dialogs that in dreams (young) men & boys frequently wanted to have sex with their mothers. He didn’t further elaborate on the issue….

    • 回复: @Alfred
  22. JoannF 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s not dubious that Freud was Jewish and would have been partial to typically Jewish influences.
    As to Muslims, they are NOT noble savages, there is a very HIGH percentage of neuroticism – at least if you according to the very few psychologists who manage to get an impression, because psychology is one of the many things Islam does not really allow. You have to understand that every Muslim man tries to be as similar to Mohammed as he can, and that Mohammed was not a neurotic, or even a psychopath – he was the IDEAL MAN.

    • 回复: @Bardon Kaldian
  23. A very interesting article that brings up a lot of my own thoughts about Freud and his work. Above all, Freud was a talented writer, but I’ve always suspected his theories were psychological fairy tales.

  24. Miggle 说:
    @Franz

    Franz, pardon my ignorance. I’ve never heard of the Book of Jubilees. Is that in the Old Testament, or where?

    • 回复: @Franz
  25. The article suggests that circumcision could be the origin of many Jewish pathologies (and by extension Muslim pathologies). Is there any research on psychological outcomes of circumcised and non-circumcised men?

    I wonder if the theories outlined in the article have any bearing on the meetoo perpetrators, who are vastly disproportionately Jewish?

  26. Patric 说:
    @Isabella

    Look at the possibilities though………….Jews could continue to get money from Germany indefinitely based on this kind of theory! We can picture in the year 3000AD them STILL collecting money because of this ancient ‘trauma’. What’s not to like about that! For the Jews at least

  27. Whitewolf 说:

    I can understand a lot of behaviour by Jews even if a lot of it disgusts me. I’ll never understand how they still allow their infants to suffer from ritual gential mutilation. It’s simply barbaric and indefensible.

    • 回复: @James J OMeara
  28. Alfred 说:

    rate of neuroses and character disorders among Jews was about three times as high as among Catholics and Protestants

    Plenty of other peoples of the Middle East, including Christians, circumcise their baby boys but they don’t seem to suffer from the neurosis referred to at the end of this article.

    Circumcision – Middle East, Africa and Europe

    The earliest historical record of circumcision comes from Egypt, in the form of an image of the circumcision of an adult carved into the tomb of Ankh-Mahor at Saqqara, dating to about 2400–2300 BCE. Circumcision was done by the Egyptians possibly for hygienic reasons, but also was part of their obsession with purity and was associated with spiritual and intellectual development.

  29. @Anonymous

    The surgical mutilation of the male infant’s penis is the first initiation rite for a Jewish man. So, given that the correct appearance of male genitals is given such primacy, one should be surprised that more do not become as morbidly sex-obsessed as did Freud, with exceptions, of course, for Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Jeffrey Epstein, Louis C.K., Harvey Weinstein…

    To top it off, it’s not simply presented as just a cultural custom, it’s presented as the sign of the covenant with the supreme being. (If Moses had had a lick of sense, he would have laughed in Yahweh’s face and told him he was nuts.)

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  30. @Alden

    表观遗传学。

    Any research done into how many tens of millions of Russians are scarred because their ancestors enduredterror of the Cheka, the NKVD or of the KGB? How about the number of Poles and Lithuanians who had their DNA altered by cruel overlords?

    • 同意: Robjil
    • 回复: @Reality Cheque
  31. @Franz

    Like Moses Abraham is just a myth.

    • 回复: @Franz
  32. @JoannF

    Of course Muslims are not noble savages. I mean- not noble. And they’re too dumb to be neurotic.

    Anyway, any sane man’s maxim should be: do not mess with my schlong- except you’re a desirable female.

  33. @Isabella

    Also, central to the Oedipus story is the aspect that tragedy is inherent in human existence.

    Not only does Oedipus not know the King is his father, he does not know the Queen is his mother, Jocasta. His father, the King, had sent Oedipus to die as an infant, when he had been warned that his infant son would one day kill him. His father, Laius, trying to forestall the prophecy, thereby set in motion the events that culminated in his murder by his son.

    (How Freudian of Freud to disregard a thesis so central to the entire story.)

  34. annamaria 说:
    @Alden

    “Off topic history channel has a program about the DNA of holocaust survivors being permanently altered by the stress or whatever. And all their descendants from now have this altered DNA. Program cited a scientific American article supposedly proved this.”

    — This is an area of epigenetics. The Palestinians have been having the really bad times under the bloody boot of Jewish State. Before Palestinians, there were Russians exterminated by millions on the orders of Jewish Bolsheviks who organized and made “efficient” both the secret police and GULAG (the net of concentration camps in the Soviet Union). And don’t forget Holodomor when some 6-7 million human beings died of starvation in Ukraine; the Holodomor was conducted by Lazar Kaganovich, the First Secretary of Communist Party of Ukraine.

    Let Israel-firsters continue making their fancy claims — the inevitable pushback will hurt them badly. The vicious dreamers about Eretz Israel have put the Middle East on fire, altering permanently the DNA of people living there. Each Holobiz Museum must be fitted with the pictures of murdered children, the victims of the ongoing Wars for Israel. There are enough pictures to cover all Holobiz Museums.

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-many-wars/
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/how-pro-israel-foundations-in-washington-are-pushing-a-us-war-with-iran/255782/
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/fighting-israels-wars-u-s-military-government-become-zionized/
    http://www.thecactusland.com/2014/08/what-if-children-dying-in-gaza-were-jews.html
    https://www.dailystar.com.lb/ArticlePrint.aspx?id=355024&mode=print

    • 同意: Alden, Druid
  35. Parfois1 说:
    @Isabella

    Freud misunderstood it, twisted it and mis-used it for a very sick version of humanity which he successfully sold to a large part of humanity for a very long time. We can see some results of this in effect today.

    It may be a case of blowing my own trumpet (or a Freudian slip?) but I remember sounding a discordant note when I came across Freud in Psychology 100 – his theories seemed so outrageous to the point of arguing with the lecturer and questioning why we were being taught such nonsense.

    Later on I realised that most of modern Social Science was a Jewish preserve and most textbooks from the US. And it went across the whole field, from Anthropology to Economics, the English-speaking academia was taught a fraudulent view of mankind as seen from the Jewish mind. No wonder a cultural revolution is needed… and a real one a la Francaise, ou Russe, as well to get rid of the malignant kleptocracy.

  36. annamaria 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “Freud’s work remains one of the monuments of modern German (and Western) literature…”

    — No, it is not. Freud was a fraud and he knew that. Where is his data? Moreover, he was deeply concerned with the improvement of his patients’ psychological state, namely, he did not want them to improve because that would hurt his pocket.
    He was just another miserable product of shtetl, who pretended on being an intellectual and original thinker. Freud was an obnoxious pretender and falsificator. Nothing more.

    • 同意: Parfois1
  37. Auyamsar8 说:

    Circumcision has an extensive history in Judaism of being performed to control and damage sexuality, from Philo of Alexandria to Moses Maimonides. Even today, one can find many Orthodox Jews openly attesting to this- just a small sampling of some articles on Chabad:

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/376074/jewish/The-Mark-of-Truth.htm

    [更多]

    “Circumcision purifies and refines. It forces us to make a sacrifice. Removing the foreskin diminishes the pleasure and enjoyment of intercourse. We sacrifice such pleasure and proclaim that, on our scale, Divine instruction is a greater priority than self-gratification.”

    https://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/2917521/jewish/The-Circumcision-of-Desire.htm

    “Now we understand why the sign of the covenant is circumcision, a commandment given in Tazria. For faith to be more than the worship of power, it must affect the most intimate relationship between men and women. In a society founded on covenant, male-female relationships are built on something other and gentler than male dominance, masculine power, sexual desire and the drive to own, control and possess. Baal must become ish. The alpha male must become the caring husband. Sex must be sanctified and tempered by mutual respect. The sexual drive must be circumcised and circumscribed so that it no longer seeks to possess and is instead content to love. ”

    https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/379485/jewish/Healing-Swollen-Ego.htm

    “男性生殖器官的包皮以两种方式影响他的婚姻关系体验:它增加了他的肉体感官愉悦,并通过在一定程度上将他与妻子隔离开来降低他对妻子的敏感性。 通过去除包皮,男人对婚姻关系的体验不再是自恋的放纵,而是他和妻子之间真正的精神耦合。 一旦婚姻关系的精神层面被允许进入画面,它也会增强身体层面。 因此,塔木德的圣人指出,理想情况下,至少是犹太夫妇在婚姻关系中体验到最真实的享受。”

    https://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/2287938/jewish/Why-Women-Dont-Need-Circumcision.htm

    “Circumcision is a tangible reminder to all men that they are the masters of their bodies, that they are in control of their sexual urges. Cutting back the foreskin represents tapering the self-centered nature of lust. It’s not only about me, but about another person’s dignity and desires. It’s not all about the pleasure that I want, but about the pleasure that G‑d wants me to have.

    Perhaps this reasoning behind circumcision can account for the Talmud’s statement that women are born naturally circumcised. Generally speaking, a woman’s nature is not to dominate someone whom she desires. Studies show that female sexual predators make up such a small percentage that there is little known about them as a group.1 Although women may have many imperfections, it seems that they are naturally less in danger of violating the dignity of others through their lustful impulses.”

    “Both men and women are entrusted to serve G‑d with dignity and consciousness. At the core of this service is the challenge to infuse meaning into the most mundane aspects of our life. To imprint the covenant on our physical body. And perhaps it is in this arena that women are naturally gifted. This gift of “natural circumcision”—the perspective of fluidity between the holy and the mundane—empowers (and obligates) women to become leaders. In the era preceding the global redemption, when the schism between what is worldly and what is G‑dly will vanish, feminine leadership is vital.”

    And I really like the author of this one: “Mrs Rochel Holzkenner is a mother of four children and the co-director of Chabad of Las Olas, Fla., serving the community of young professionals. She is a high-school teacher and a freelance writer—and a frequent contributor to 查巴德网. She lectures extensively on topics of Kabbalah and feminism, and their application to everyday life.”

    What was that about feminism being a Jewish plot? What was that about Orthodox Jewish treatment of women?

    I’m also shocked the article didn’t touch upon Metzitzah B’Peh, AKA “oral circumcision”, which was a widespread to universal component of circumcision in Judaism until the 19th century. It’s still common among some Ultra-Orthodox and is perfectly legal in the US, being performed about 3,000 times per year in NYC alone (according to a 2012 survey) despite repeated cases of herpes infections, some leading to brain damage and even death.

    And is still pretty common among the Ultra-Orthodox: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/nyregion/regulation-of-circumcision-method-divides-some-jews-in-new-york.html

    “The mohel, A. Romi Cohn, said he had performed more than 25,000 circumcisions, on babies and adults, in New York City and elsewhere over the last 40 years. When he circumcises an infant, he said, he almost always put his mouth on the baby’s penis to pull blood away from the wound in an ancient part of the circumcision ritual, known in Hebrew as metzitzah b’peh, that is still commonplace in parts of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community but is rare in other branches of Judaism.”

    “The city estimates that metzitzah b’peh is used in some 3,600 local circumcisions each year. The city’s health department says that, between 2000 and 2011, 11 babies contracted herpes as a result, and 2 of them died. This spring, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention declared that the procedure created a risk for transmission of herpes and other pathogens and was “not safe.”

    Remember also that Chabad is the movement Jared Kushner belongs to and is the group that sent Iceland their first rabbi, which culminated in the ADL threatening to destroy Iceland’s tourist industry with propaganda smearing them as Nazis.

    Chabad was also previously led by Menachem Mendel Schneerson- in addition to being a virulent Jewish supremacist (https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/07/why-is-the-us-honoring-a-racist-rabbi/), he was also a fan of Metzitzah B’Peh. He didn’t endorse it on the traditional grounds of it being for cleanliness though, it was something else: https://www.chabad.org/therebbe/article_cdo/aid/70775/jewish/Likkutei-Sichot-Tazria.htm

    “This work involves both milah, cutting the thick foreskin, and priyah, ripping open the thin membrane, which on a spiritual plane alludes to the subduing of our material desires.25 Afterwards, one must perform metzitzah (sucking out the blood), thus removing the excitement generated by material things from one’s body as a whole.”

    Try to think of what someone might mean by “excitement generated by the material things” of the body of an 8 month old and how this must be sucked out through his freshly mutilated penis.

    Knowing these things really puts into perspective American conservatives- particularly boomers- who sputter in fury about Islamic FGM and Islam’s treatment of women while they fetishize these pedophilic, misandrist cultists (and sexually mutilate their own boys, in contrast to millenia of Christian and Western history.)

    • 回复: @James J OMeara
  38. annamaria 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “This Jewish “discovery” of transgenerational trauma via altered DNA is a trick to keep the flow of reparations going. … What is the correct translation of chutzpah again? Right: shamelessness!”

    — Agree. This is all about the profitable schema of holobiz and the special status of the “most moral and victimized victim.”

    Plain disgusting, considering the bloody fruits of the still ongoing Wars for Eretz Israel and the horrendous exploits of Jewish Bolsheviks in Russia.

    • 回复: @Kolya Krassotkin
  39. annamaria 说:
    @Alden

    “Freudian psychology … spread because of sex sex sex. As we all know, sex sells…”

    — Agree. Freudian psychology emanates the joy of exploring the dirty linen.

  40. @annamaria

    You’re obscurantist. Most great literature is a fraud.

    • 回复: @annamaria
  41. @annamaria

    Freud’s personal musings are interesting, (and most of his writing is mostly musings), much as those hiddenly deeply by people of high intelligence are. But, that being said, little remains therein of universal utility or application.

    They are more the diaries of a madman than any guide to the human psyche.

  42. Anon[137]• 免责声明 说:

    This is from the one who informs us that “Man doesn’t think”, but doesn’t inform us whether he sees himself as not a man, or not thinking.
    My favourite author at the site since then.

  43. @annamaria

    How about a study to see if American taxpayer DNA has been altered by the trauma of being slaves to the Fed, of being robbed of trillions to pay for the WOT and to bankroll our best “friend” in the Middle East?

    (God only knows how many millions of innocent lives have been destroyed or damaged by the misguided war on terror.)

    • 同意: annamaria
  44. I’ll just add a few points I think are worth mentioning.

    1. one frequently encounters the idea that Jews are more pervy than us (Europeans). Well, if we think historically- this is an unsubstantiated claim. First, you got ordinary, hormonal sexuality. This is a natural stage of human development. However, higher cultures had come up with eroticism, which is something more developed & refined. Broadly speaking, we have eastern & western types of eroticism. Eastern (India, China, some parts of Islam,…) are more “materialistic”, with focus on their traditional medicines & physical exercises of these cultures (Kama Sutra, Nefzewi, various Chinese erotic treatises,…). They are, so to speak, variations on erotic gymnastics. Western approach, from ancient Greece & Rome through Christianity to secular West is more along lines of erotic imagination (Ars amatoria, Roman pornography, medieval romances & later Aretino,… to John Cleland, Casanova, Sacher Masoch & later western erotica). Western erotic way is more focused on imagining situations & numerous pervy acts, mind games & nuances.

    Jews do not have their own erotic tradition, but have adopted, as much as they could, Western attitudes (great Jewish pervy author, although anonymous for quite a while, was Felix Salten of “Bambi” fame). But, as I said- they were mostly followers of the West, without developed indigenous erotic imagination.

    2. Freud was not into “sexual liberation”, this is nonsense. He thought that suppression & sublimation of sex drive was necessary for civilization. He would have been horrified with “sexual revolution” because for him simply a suppression wouldn’t work (it produces neuroses) & “free sex” was even worse (its result would be a collapse of civilization). It is sublimation into other spheres of human activity, combined with a healthy dose of regulated sexuality through essential sexual morality, that is the best way (attainable at various degrees).

    3. as far as I know, it’s not modern (or ancient) Jews who are/were obsessed with sexuality, but Victorians. They were so crazy about masturbation that they imposed dick-clipping throughout their cultural sphere (they thought it reduced sex drive in male youths & horrors of wanking). Thanks to them, circumcision is present in the US & through Anglosphere.

    4. Freud was, it is well known, very influenced by Janet, Charcot, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, …. but I think he owns much more to Plato, where one can find most crucial Freud’s ideas. Basically, most – though not all -of Freud is Plato without spiritual dimension & reduced to biological mechanicism.

    • 巨魔: renfro
  45. @Whitewolf

    Actually, lots of “liberal” or “modern” Jews have replaced this with a symbolic rite. This is typical of how religions become more “sensible” as older traditions become embarrassing; and it’s EXACTLY the sort of thing most of you guys CONDEMN when Christians try to do it.

    If Pope Gregory is to be preferred to Pope Francis, actual circumcision is to be preferred to symbolic.

    Or is it ‘traditionalism for me, but not for thee’?

    • 回复: @Whitewolf
    , @Jake
  46. @Auyamsar8

    “Knowing these things really puts into perspective American conservatives- particularly boomers- who sputter in fury about Islamic FGM and Islam’s treatment of women while they fetishize these pedophilic, misandrist cultists (and sexually mutilate their own boys, in contrast to millenia of Christian and Western history.)”

    Indeed. Yet most here still look to the Jews for their ideas of sexual morality. Oddly, anything else they call “liberalism” — which they also think is promoted by Jews. As Mayor Curley of Boston said: the Anglo-Saxons are a strange and stupid race.

    • 回复: @Richard B
    , @Druid
  47. Wally 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Well said, Franklin. Follow the money.

    其他因素:

    犹太人强烈的精神疾病倾向是否有助于他们的“大屠杀”幻想?
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12239

    科学家发现使阿什肯纳兹犹太人易患精神分裂症的基因
    DNST3基因的变异使Ashkenazi犹太人罹患精神分裂症和类似疾病的可能性增加40%。

    https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-ashkenazi-gene-increases-schizophrenia-1.5294333

    • 回复: @acementhead
  48. @Bardon Kaldian

    感谢这位建设性的批评家。
    据我所知,我认为弗洛伊德的大多数病人都是犹太人,因为他所有确定的案例研究都是犹太人。 而且我相信,至少在 1899 年之前,他只能接触到一个犹太客户。 但我的假设可能是错误的。 我同意弗洛伊德的转变与这一事实有关的观点是我论点的一个弱点。 但是,正如我所写的,我不认为弗洛伊德是有意识地这样推理的:我不怀疑弗洛伊德是有意识的、蓄意的欺骗,而是他自己的家庭和种族背景引起的自我欺骗。 这是重点。
    同样正确的是,弗洛伊德怀疑他的一些病人对性虐待的“记忆”是错误的记忆,这可能是正确的。 他当时正在使用一种受他从夏科特和其他人那里学到的东西启发的催眠形式。 所以他的病人的记忆,至少在很多情况下,不是真实的记忆,而是“恢复的记忆”,因此是不可靠的。
    但是弗洛伊德向弗利斯表达的关于他父亲性虐待的知识又如何呢? 弗洛伊德没有催眠自己,是吗? 我们永远不会知道细节。 但我承认也可以想象,弗洛伊德曾一度对他的父亲产生了错误的记忆/猜测,然后确信它们是毫无根据的。
    Whatever the case may be, the questions remain as to why Freud settled for spontaneous infantile sexual wishes transformed into fantasies (=false memories)? There are many other alternative explanations. Why didn’t he consider that he had himself implanted those false memories in his patients (it is a fact that “regressive therapists” who believe in reincarnation implant, even unwillingly, memories of past lives in their patients, and those who believe in aliens are happy when their patients remember having been abducted by aliens, etc.)
    If we consider psychoanalysis in general, and not only Freud, I think it is clear that the Oedipus theory has been used as a cover-up for the widespread reality of sexual abuse on children (at least until the 80s, when all kinds of heterodox “psychoanalysts” started challenging Freudian dogmas), and therefore as a protection for abusers, as well as a justification of the sexualisation of our culture.
    关于包皮环切术,我们必须区分在大多数穆斯林国家实行的青少年包皮环切术,通常在 8 岁以后(如古埃及人)和婴儿包皮环切术。 心理影响完全不同。 尽管青少年包皮环切术引发了严重的问题,但它可以与许多仪式中的启蒙仪式相提并论,这涉及到孩子象征经验并将其用于自己的建构的能力(至少在理想情况下;不要误会我的意思,我是不认可)。 我怀疑,婴儿包皮环切术在潜意识的最深层留下了永远无法治愈的创伤。
    由于我希望有一天能将我的文章整合到一本书中,我会考虑您的观点,并遵循您的阅读建议。

  49. @Bardon Kaldian

    “…Basically, most – though not all -of Freud is Plato without spiritual dimension & reduced to biological mechanicism…”

    This reduction of idealism to materialism is typically Jewish. Compare Karl Marx’ reduction of Hegel’s idealism to materialism.

  50. annamaria 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “Most great literature is a fraud.”

    — Don’t project your choice of literature on others.

  51. utu 说:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Freud pseudo-science is Jewish through and through regardless of what was the gentile-to-Jew ratio of his patients. He did not discover anything but he postulated the existence of the phenomena for which he concocted quasi-empirical evidence. The story of sexual foundations of all human motives was too good and too powerful to left untold.

    [更多]

    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f46e/c78c0ba8e9acdd7ccadbd53a832ae5295136.pdf
    Another historian who found the Jewish issue critical to Freud’s theories and to the psychoanalytic movement was Sander L. Gilman. His argument focuses on the question of language. Gilman asserts that Freud, by adopting the scientific language of psychoanalysis, aimed at distancing himself from the anti- Semitic socio-cultural environment of fin-de-siècle Vienna. Freud discovered the sexual origins of neurosis through the sexual discourse of Jewish jokes told by Jews of East European origin, los Ostjuden37. But Freud, as a Jew threatened by the anti-Semitic racial discourse of science and of post-liberal politics, did not discuss the language of Jewish jokes in a feminine language, in a Jewish language or in the accepted scientific one. He did so in a new scientific language: that of psychoanalysis, which aims at becoming a universal language of the unconscious, present in every human being38. “The exercise of collecting and retelling the Jewish jokes, of removing them from the daily world in which Freud must live to the higher plane of the new scientific discourse, that of psychoanalysis enables Freud to purge himself of the insecurity felt by his status as a Jew in fin-de-siècle Vienna”

    Indeed, Freud’s scientific discourse has to be seen in the context of the scientific discourse of his time. Gilman criticizes Frank J. Sulloway40 and Peter Gay because, he argues, they did not appreciate the importance of the racial element of the fin-de-siècle scientific discourse. He mentions Cesare Lombroso and Rafael Becker, two Jewish scientists who themselves wrote in this mode. Masculinity became connected with the Aryan race, while the Jewish male was characterized with feminine and sickly attributes such as nervosa and other such diseases.

    For a Jew, to become a man of science could be his emancipating ticket to masculinity41. Freud’s constant criticism of the values of the bourgeois society ‘from inside’ is confirmed by Gilman as well: “It is necessary to understand that Freud on one level of his self-definition as Jew and scientist accepted the centrality of race as an epistemological category while constantly needing to draw it into question”42.

    Concerning the Jewish members of the circle and their sensitivity to the anti-Semitic atmosphere, Jones wrote: “I became aware, somewhat to my astonishment, of how extraordinarily suspicious Jews could be of the faintest sign of anti-Semitism and of how many remarks or actions could be interpreted in that sense. The members most sensitive were Ferenczi and Sachs; Abraham and Rank were less so. Freud himself was pretty sensitive in this respect”. [from Jones account]

    Freud in conflict between Abraham and Jung admits that psychoanalysis is Jewish and thus foreign to gentiles:

    To lower the tension between Abraham and Jung, for example, Freud wrote to the former:

    Please be tolerant and do not forget that it is really easier for you than it is for Jung to follow my ideas, for in the first place you are completely independent, and you are closer to my intellectual constitution because of racial kinship [社会事务], while he as a Christian pastor’s son finds his way to me only against great inner resistances. His association with us is more valuable for that. I nearly said that it was only by his appearance on the scene that psycho-analysis escaped the danger of becoming a Jewish national affair [eine jüdisch nationale Angelegenheit]

    Another instance shows how sharply Freud’s public statements differed from his private utterances about his Jewish feelings, even attributing specific qualities based on racial considerations. In another attempt to calm the waters between Abraham and “the Swiss”, he wrote to the former on July 23, 1908:
    I surmise that the repressed anti-Semitism of the Swiss, from which I am to be spared, has been directed against you in increased force. But my opinion is that we must as Jews [wir mussen als Juden], if we want to cooperate with other people, develop a little masochism and be prepared to endure a little injustice…. Why cannot I harness Jung and you together, your keenness [Ihre Schärfe] and his élan [seinen Schwung]?

    And here is Ferenczi:

    “Budapest seems after all, not to be such an absolutely bad place. The audience was naturally composed of nine tenths Jews!”

  52. @Bardon Kaldian

    ‘There is no indication that Jewish family dynamics is more violent & incestuous in comparison with other families we know of & which belong to other cultures…’

    Oh, au contraire. There are indications that Jewish family dynamics — at least among ultra-orthodox Jews — are more incestuous, if not necessarily more violent.

    New York City has an embarrassingly rich harvest of such cases from its ultra-orthodox Jewish community — particularly now in the #metoo era. Moreover, I remember a curious episode from about ten-fifteen years ago.

    In Israel, there’s a great deal of hostility between all the various segments of the Jewish community — but particularly between the ‘progressive’ secular segment and the ultra-orthodox. Sometimes it seems that “国土报”, for example, all but starts figuratively foaming at the mouth with hate when it comes to ultra-orthodox Jewry.

    所以无论如何, “国土报” started joyfully reporting 每一个案例 of incest coming to the attention of the authorities in those enormous, caged Haredi families; adolescent boys molesting their pre-pubescent sisters, group juvenile sex, etc.

    For a while there — a few months, as I recall — there was a real flood. Daily revelations: who’d a thought it was so common?

    Then, apparently, it dawned on someone at “国土报” that as much fun as this was, it wasn’t ‘good for the Jews’ — and the reportage stopped.

    But it was a revelation. And of course, with those enormous families — up to twenty children — all kept at home and deprived of most of the forms of recreation available to children of normal families, sexual perversion was as likely to break out as it is in prison.

    • 回复: @steinbergfeldwitzcohen
  53. annamaria 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The following works were transmitted under Plato’s name, most of them already considered spurious in antiquity, and so were not included by Thrasyllus in his tetralogical arrangement. These works are labelled as Notheuomenoi (“spurious”) or Apocrypha.

    Axiochus, Definitions, Demodocus, Epigrams, Eryxias, Halcyon, On Justice, On Virtue, Sisyphus.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato#Family

    • 回复: @Bardon Kaldian
  54. @Priss Factor

    Sorry, I don’t have much time now. You can check Daniels’/Dalrymple’s critique of Freud (Daniels is of Jewish extraction, so there is no ethnic animus present):

  55. @Laurent Guyénot

    ‘… There are many other alternative explanations. Why didn’t he consider that he had himself implanted those false memories in his patients (it is a fact that “regressive therapists” who believe in reincarnation implant, even unwillingly, memories of past lives in their patients, and those who believe in aliens are happy when their patients remember having been abducted by aliens, etc.)…’

    And remember that wave of ‘day care molestation’ cases in the early nineties or something. Entirely earnest investigators were uncovering bushelfuls of cases of ‘molestation’ simply by questioning small children in a leading manner. The children, unconsciously trying to meet the equally unconscious desire of the investigators, were literally inventing the most lurid and (these being four-year-olds) fantastic tales of sex abuse.

    People — particularly women and children — usually strive to say what is expected of them. Obviously, this could have led to Freud ‘finding’ exactly what he wanted to find.

    Now that you mention it, it seems most likely that this must have accounted for at least some of his ‘evidence’. Unconsciously, he wanted to make his own family ‘normal’ — and succeeded. He assiduously amassed evidence that everyone else was the same way.

    I recall an episode from when I was a kid. My younger brother decided to slide down a particularly muddy hillside — with regrettable results, even from the point of view of a ten year old boy. He wanted me to do it too — and became almost hysterical when I wouldn’t.

    I’d guess we all feel the need to establish that everyone else is doing whatever we’re doing — at least if it’s something we wish hadn’t happened. Hence Freud.

    • 回复: @acementhead
  56. bjondo 说:
    @Miggle

    No it’s not. Anyone call fall prey to psychiatric disorder, paranoia or other insanity. But the point is that the Jews have paranoia imposed on them, and that defines Judaism.

    Look at the victimhood. Every little Jewish child is, before all else, instructed that he or she is a victim of the non-Jews.

    Both accurate.

    来自病态的信仰体系,
    diseased minds.
    The disease passed generation to generation.

    5ds

  57. Art 说:

    This article is saying that Freud projected his screwed-up Jew family life onto the whole human species. He created a false sick orthodoxy about sex. Inordinate male Jew family dominance is the offender. It is the heavy hand of the religious dominant Jew father, that leaves children traumatized. Children that are not traumatized at a young age do not have the sexual dysfunctions described by Freud.

    Freud’s obsession with sex is abnormal – it is clear he was seriously sexually screwed up.

    The whole male Jew culture is sexually obsessed. Normal male/female sexual intimacy does not satisfy the Jew male. He demands sex that is goes beyond what is culturally normal and acceptable.

    The Orthodox Jew culture is a power structure where women and children are subservient to the powerful Jew male. This leads to a sick culture – period.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  58. @Laurent Guyénot

    I meant to post Daniels as a response here:

    There is much to write about Freud, but I think he’s dead now as a cultural influence; I disagree that his theories, essentially an eclectic mix of his practice & ideas he absorbed from others, from Plato to Janet, were somehow “Jewish”- doubtless, Freud possessed emotional Jewish identity, but was, except for a few platitudes, clueless about Jewish traditional culture & ideas; intellectually, he belongs to the 19th C of ideas, not to the 20th C (Darwin as the ideal).

    He is in the past 50-70 years being dismissed by scientifically-oriented psychologists & psychiatrists & his cultural influence has dimmed. Also, I don’t think he has much, or anything, to offer with regard to our current problems.

    I guess his attraction was due to the timing & the right place. In 16th & 17th C European culture (Rabelais, Burton, Montaigne, Shakespeare, Aretino, Giordano Bruno, Boehme, LaRochefoucauld..), he would not have been such a big deal.

    • 回复: @AP
  59. Richard B 说:
    @James J OMeara

    the Anglo-Saxons are a strange and stupid race.

    与谁相反?

  60. @annamaria

    Plato’s “Republic”, 9, I=571 A- 573 B. Stop embarrassing yourself.

    [the beastly part of the soul] does not shrink from attempting to lie with a mother in fancy..

    • 回复: @annamaria
  61. AaronB 说:

    Jews serve as the psychological safety pressure valve for Europeans.

    The European Shadow is projected onto Jews, who are then slaughtered.

    For instance, it is obvious to everyone that the “culture of critique” is the Enlightenment, which is indeed destroying traditional cultures. Yet European gentiles project this onto Jews, the people of Faith, in a brazen act of misdirection.

    Europeans invented Darwinism, a psychopathic and sociopathic system that influences all gentile thought systems to this day, and is completely at odds with Jewish morality, yet project sociopathy onto Jews, who created the morality of the Prophets.

    The unhealthy preoccupation with sex is clearly a European historical problem, not a Jewish one, which is far more balanced in this regard. No celibate monks and no advice to be celibate if you wish to be perfect etc, etc, but a healthy integration of sexuality into life.

    等等等等。

    Classic European anti-Semitism, which is being resurrected on this site today, has been simply a matter of projecting European negative traits onto Jews – objectifying the European Shadow – and then despising, harassing, and ultimately, destroying and killing Jews.

    And it is not at all surprising that those people who see themselves as standing for European revival feel a need to project their Shadow onto Jews as part of their psychological regeneration. This appears to be a traditional part of European nationalism.

    I did not want to think so, but it may be that European nationalism is indeed uniquely diseased – it’s classic form cannot exist without creating a Scapegoat out of Jews and others.

    Perhaps its truly is necessary for Jews to oppose European nationalism whenever they can – at least in its classic form.

    This is very interesting. I had not thought about this before. This site is making me understand things about European history and the diseased European psyche I had not understood before.

    谢谢罗恩

  62. AaronB 说:
    @AaronB

    This need for Europeans to project their Shadow onto others, rather than integrate into their psyches in a healthy fashion, surely related to the generally unbalanced character of European history.

    An unbalanced people, who cannot face, accept, and integrate their Shadow, displaying an extreme history of constant shifts, restless and unable to relax with itself, and ultimately bringing misery to the whole world.

    Poor Europeans – we should not hate them despite the fact they’ve destroyed the world. They hate themselves – the best of them know what they’ve done. We should seek to understand them and heal them.

    What made them this way? And how can we change it?

    • 回复: @AaronB
  63. “I therefore put forward the thesis that at the bottom of every case of hysteria there are one or more occurrences of premature sexual experience

    Like a Jew Mohel Rabbi first mutilating the baby boy’s penis, then using his mouth to slurp up the blood from the bleeding stump, which is called brit milah.

    That practice is beyond sick. It’s a license for pedos to orally molest baby boy’s under the guise of a religion.

    But you won’t her much about that, unless it’s stories about the baby boy’s getting Herpes from the Rabbi and you’ll only see that in NYC media.

    Now if this was a Muslim practice, every night, Wolf Blitzer would be foaming at the mouth, reporting on the latest baby rape.

    But since it’s Jews, mum’s the word.

  64. AaronB 说:
    @AaronB

    My final clarifying comment –

    Europeans deserve a healthy nationalism that involves self love and self respect without demonizing others. The problem is that the classic European nationalism up till now has been diseased, as witnessed by all the crazy wars, imperialism, creation of thought systems like Darwinism, etc.

    The psychology of classic European nationalism is exhibited on this site.

    Classic European nationalism seeks scapegoats, demonizes others, and is forever at war with itself and the world. It cannot be at peace.

    What to do? It would be immoral and wrong to simply write Europeans off as “intrinsically” diseased, as a people who will always seek to destroy the world through wars, technology, creation of psychopathic systems of thought like Darwinism, destruction of traditional cultures, etc.

    We need to understand what is going on and help them get better, help them become at peace with themselves so they don’t have to hate everyone else.

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
    , @Druid
  65. If Woody Allen was undergoing this therapy then spare us normies all this verbiage.

  66. Whitewolf 说:
    @James J OMeara

    Or is it ‘traditionalism for me, but not for thee’?

    Any traditionalism that involves genital mutilation of children and especially infants is wrong. Regardless of religion.

  67. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:

    Biographers say that Freud saw only about 100 patients in his life , even considering that they were rich patients , it is a mistery how Freud could live a very bourgeois life in Vienna , have a big flat in Bergasse 19 , with just 100 patients, in his life , plus his writings .

    But the nephew of Freud , Edward Bernays born in New York , using the ideas of his uncle , was able to lower the level of intellligence of the masses , and to enhance the ” unconscious ” ( affects and instincts ) . He is the founder of modern propaganda in New York , with his publicity campaigns he could sell from cigaretttes to US Presidents , he became very rich and influencial , he introduced his uncle`s ideas in the USA , and I speculate that Sigmund got some royalties . Nobody cares for a few neurotics , but how to handle the masses politically and commercially is worth a fortune . Bernays tecnics still dominante propaganda .

    See this documental about Freud`s nephew , the father of modern propaganda , it is 53 minutes , but it it more than worth it .

    • 回复: @utu
  68. @Franz

    And the idea that Abraham was simply a felon who didn’t get caught never crosses the rabbi/author’s mind.

    Or a guy suffering from acute schizophrenia, constantly hearing the ‘voice of God’ in his head telling him to do crazy stuff.

    • 回复: @Franz
  69. Excellent work, Laurent!

    In The Future of an Illusion, Sigmund Freud describes “religion”—meaning essentially Christianity—as a “universal obsessional neurosis” which has for believers the merit that “their acceptance of the universal neurosis spares them the task of constructing a personal one.”

    In this quote, Freud nicely sums up Freudianism, too.

  70. anarchyst 说:
    @Greg Bacon

    It is long overdue to define “circumcision” as “male genital mutilation”, just as “female genital mutilation” is defined.

    When it come to “genital mutilation”, “male genital mutilation” is more extreme than “female genital mutilation” as the male foreskin, a complete body part is removed, whereas in “female genital mutilation”, only a portion of the clitoris and labia is removed.

    Both male and female genital mutilation are barbaric procedures that should be outlawed worldwide.

    • 回复: @Assad al-islam
  71. @AaronB

    ‘Jews serve as the psychological safety pressure valve for Europeans.

    The European Shadow is projected onto Jews, who are then slaughtered…’

    Either that, or exploited and abused peasants rise up and kill their oppressors.

    One of the two…

    It is classic, though, that you feel compelled to reduce anti-semitism to some form of irrational, morally inexcusable impulse. It’s not particularly pretty — but don’t you think you’re falling back on that morally immaculate, perfectly passive victim schtick again?

    One way or another, there can be no connection between Jewish behavior and their persecution, can there?

    • 回复: @AaronB
  72. @AaronB

    Perhaps its truly is necessary for Jews to oppose European nationalism whenever they can – at least in its classic form.

    But it’s OK for Israel to have nationalism?

    You seem to be fairly well informed on Jewish behavior, so maybe you can answer a question that many refuse to: Why are historical facts and many truths deemed anti-Semitic?

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
    , @AaronB
  73. utu 说:
    @Anon

    … it is a mistery how Freud could live a very bourgeois life in Vienna , have a big flat in Bergasse 19 , with just 100 patients, in his life , plus his writings…

    This is a good questions. Do we know of rich sponsors?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2695505
    Sigmund Freud and money

    Drucker contends that Freud unconsciously misrepresented his parents’ financial situation by creating the myth that they lived in poverty. Furthermore, Freud also developed another myth that it was because of the strong anti-Semitism in Vienna that he was so delayed in being appointed a professor of psychiatry.

    Drucker points out that the majority of the Viennese physicians were Jewish and that Freud’s becoming a professor did not entail a delay and was not affected by any anti-Semitism in Vienna. Another area of conflict between Freud and the other Viennese physicians was Freud’s refusal to treat any of his psychoanalytic patients without a fee. Freud believed that treating a patient in analysis for free created a transference-countertransference problem that might doom the treatment to failure. Freud’s transference explanation for not taking on charity patients did not satisfy many of his Viennese physician colleagues. They believed that Freud was given an opportunity to accept their traditional standards and turned it down. In their eyes, Freud rejected them, they did not reject him.

  74. @AaronB

    ‘…The unhealthy preoccupation with sex is clearly a European historical problem, not a Jewish one, which is far more balanced in this regard…’

    ! Isaac Bashevis Singer, Philip Roth, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein…

    Maybe you shouldn’t go there. Necessarily, all people place importance on sex, and gentiles such as Warren Beatty are notoriously preoccupied by it, but…

    There is a strain of frenetic, often abusive sexuality running through Jewish culture — one that, moreover, is reflected in some of the statistics on sexual trafficking and sexual abuse that come out of Israel.

    It’s okay with me, more or less — people vary, and by culture as well as individually, and who would want to be undersexed?

    You can’t win — but still. For a Jew to claim the mantle of sexual ‘balance’ is a bit much.

    • 同意: Kolya Krassotkin
  75. @Greg Bacon

    ‘…You seem to be fairly well informed on Jewish behavior, so maybe you can answer a question that many refuse to: Why are historical facts and many truths deemed anti-Semitic?’

    Something that in no way reflects badly on Jews, we can be sure.

  76. @AaronB

    ‘Europeans deserve a healthy nationalism that involves self love and self respect without demonizing others. ‘

    For example, we can’t we learn from Israel?

    See the respect, equality, and security they confer on their gentile subjects and neighbors. Consider their laudable record in international affairs and treatment of their allies. Look at the care and concern they take to avoid involvement in international criminal activity.

    Of course, this would explain why a Zionist is lecturing the rest of us on this topic; his nation is such an examplar.

    • 同意: annamaria
  77. @Laurent Guyénot

    Regarding circumcision, we must distinguish between adolescent circumcision, practiced in most Muslim countries after 8, generally after 12 (as among ancient Egyptians), from infantile circumcision. The psychological impact is totally different.

    The Jewish and Islamic circumcision differ in concept and intention.

    [更多]

    Jews: Jewish circumcision is done for covenant with God and therefore blood is to be drawn to bind the Jew person with his Creator. In OT, Abram was already circumcised, before he made covenant with God. He takes a stone and beats his penis to draw blood for covenant with Yahweh, and then he was named Abraham. It has nothing to cleaniness.

    In Judaism male blood and animal blood are glory, but the blood of women is filth and pollution. Read your OT.

    Muslims: Blood is dangerous if exposed to air, whether it is man, woman and/or animal blood. And, it is not filth and pollution. Science has taught us to be extra careful when handling blood. In Islam it is done for cleanliness. Under the foreskin, cheesy stuff grows, which breeds and becomes home to bacteria and germs, if not thoroughly cleaned all the times. Water is a precious resource in most countries and the access to it.

    My son is 30 now, he was two days old infant when he was circumcision in the hospital.

    https://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/circumcision-what-expect#1

    Three different kinds of clamps or plastic rings are used for circumcision: the Gomco clamp, the Plastibell device, and the Mogen clamp. But the procedure is similar for all. The clamp or ring is attached to the penis and the doctor clips off excess foreskin. The ring stays on and will fall off later. The doctor then applies an ointment like petroleum jelly to the penis and wraps it in gauze. It’s usually over in about 10 minutes. If it’s done in the hospital, your baby should be ready to go home in a few hours.

    Female circumcision has nothing to do with religion, it is African practice.

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
    , @ploni almoni
  78. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    Obviously Jews like any other people do bad things.

    Anti-Semitism is extreme and unbalanced hatred of Jews and distortion of facts to justify that. Its not just pointing out that Jews do bad things and have some bad characteristics like everyone else.

    Some European Jews did assist European nobility and royalty in exploiting their subjects, in some places and times yes – equally obviously, this cannot justify a phenomenon like anti-Semitism, where Jews are responsible for all the evil in the world.

    But beyond that there is curious symmetry and parallelism in right wing Europeans attitude towards Jews.

    Take Kevin MacDonald – whites invented the Enlightenment, obviously the “culture of critique” that destroys all traditional culture, including their own. Yet precisely this most distinctive European achievement is projected o to Jews!

    Its uncanny.

    Likewise with psychopathy – surely, Darwinism is a psychopathic philosophy if ever there was one. Yet this distinctly European attitude towards the world is projected onto Jews, the people who made morality and Faith their life!

    So there is a very interesting and uncanny process going on in the European psyche, and I think the best way to understand is as a projection of the European Shadow onto a Scapegoat.

    And I think this opens up into the wider and more interesting question about why European history was so extreme and unbalanced in general.

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
    , @anon
  79. AaronB 说:
    @Greg Bacon

    Its the distortion of facts, the selective use of facts, the use of historical truths to exaggerate and inflate claims, etc, in order to demonize Jews that is anti-Semitic.

    As for Israel, it is basically different than what I call classic European nationalism. It isn’t imperialistic but centred on one small piece of land – it doesn’t seek to absorb the world like Islam and Europeans. It is defensive in nature, it doesn’t hate or demonize others, doesn’t seek scapegoats for its problems, etc.

    I accept that Europeans deserve and should have a healthy nationalism – but classic European nationalism, which the alt right seeks to resurrect, was a diseased state of mind.

    Why not learn from your mistakes? All this hatred of Jews, Hispanics, blacks, – haven’t we been there already?

    Why not drip the psychopathy, stop projecting your shadow and accept your negative traits like all humans have, stop seeking Scapegoats, and love yourself without demonizing others?

    Learn, grow, be on healthy – don’t just seek to recreate the mistakes of the past.

    • 巨魔: Chris Mallory
  80. Art 说:

    I believe that Freud stated that the human mind is compartmentalized – this in fact true. Modern science says the same.

    Was he the first to say so – or did he copy someone else’s work?????

    Maybe that was the only thing that he got right?

  81. @Greg Bacon

    Like a Jew Mohel Rabbi first mutilating the baby boy’s penis, then using his mouth to slurp up the blood from the bleeding stump, which is called brit milah.

    That practice is beyond sick. It’s a license for pedos to orally molest baby boy’s under the guise of a religion.

    But you won’t her much about that, unless it’s stories about the baby boy’s getting Herpes from the Rabbi and you’ll only see that in NYC media.

    Now if this was a Muslim practice, every night, Wolf Blitzer would be foaming at the mouth, reporting on the latest baby rape.
    But since it’s Jews, mum’s the word.

    德勤

    Check out my post #78.

  82. @anarchyst

    It is long overdue to define “circumcision” as “male genital mutilation”, just as “female genital mutilation” is defined.

    You seems to be living under a rock and lack knowledge of modern science. Please read my post #78 very, very carefully.

    • 回复: @Anne Lid
    , @anarchyst
  83. Agent76 说:

    20 年 2016 月 1 日 自我的世纪 – 第 XNUMX 部分:“幸福机器”

    西格蒙德·弗洛伊德 (Sigmund Freud) 和他的美国侄子爱德华·伯内斯 (Edward Bernays) 之间关系的故事。 伯奈斯在 1920 年代发明了公共关系专业,并且是第一个利用弗洛伊德的思想来操纵大众的人。 他向美国公司展示了他们如何通过系统地将大量生产的商品与他们的无意识欲望联系起来,让人们想要他们不需要的东西。

    SIGMUND FREUD于1881年开始研究人类思想

    After a century during which Europe and America saw the reform of the insane asylum and an ever-increasing interest in “abnormal” psychological states, especially the issue of “nervous diseases” (which was the first phenomenon that Freud studied, examining the nervous system of fish while gaining his medical degree at the University of Vienna from 1873 to 1881). Freud turned to the issue of psychology after reading in 1884 about Breuer’s treatment of hysteria by hypnosis and after studying under Charcot at the Sorbonne in 1885. Freud faced opposition and even ridicule for many of his ideas until a group of young doctors began to follow him to Vienna in 1902, leading to the creation of the Viennese Psycho-Analytic Society and, then later in 1910, the formation of the International Psycho-Analytic Association.

    http://www.purdue.edu/guidetotheory/psychoanalysis/freud.html

    西格蒙德·弗洛伊德 (1856–1939)。 对性理论的三个贡献。 1910 年。

    二、 婴儿的性欲

    IT is a part of popular belief about the sexual impulse that it is absent in childhood and that it first appears in the period of life known as puberty.

    http://www.bartleby.com/278/2.html

    • 回复: @Anon
  84. @AaronB

    You start out alright; measured criticism of Jews and their works is okay; it’s only the extremes that would be ‘anti-semitism.’ Put together with your other posts, you’re equivocating, but alright…

    However here you drift into absurdity.

    ‘…Likewise with psychopathy – surely, Darwinism is a psychopathic philosophy if ever there was one. Yet this distinctly European attitude towards the world is projected onto Jews, the people who made morality and Faith their life!

    So there is a very interesting and uncanny process going on in the European psyche, and I think the best way to understand is as a projection of the European Shadow onto a Scapegoat.

    And I think this opens up into the wider and more interesting question about why European history was so extreme and unbalanced in general.’

    So apparently Darwinism is to be dismissed. Natural selection is a canard, etc,

    The Enlightenment was bad. Aside from everything else, this is definitely a matter of biting the hand that feeds you. Absent the Enlightenment, you’d still be confined to the Pale, trying to work out where to get food for the (large) family for tonight’s dinner. Would you prefer smallpox or cholera tonight Monsieur? We’re running a special on Plague…

    European civilization — that fount of roughly eighty percent of what makes modern life tolerable — is apparently some sort of pathology.

    Really want to go without it, do you? After all, don’t fantasize you’d be living in David’s mythological kingdom; you’d be huddled in some paleolithic cave with all the rest of the denizens of Europe — since they never created their civilization.

    …or perhaps — irony of ironies, you’d be a Muslim in the greater caliphate by now, your ancestors having been enslaved and sold down the Danube five hundred years ago. That wouldn’t be so bad. Not Europe. No electricity. But not so bad. Running water!

    Honestly (pun not intended). You’re so relentlessly dishonest — and all you accomplish is to tie yourself in knots. Most of what you say is indefensible, and the rest gibberish. Is it because you’re trying to pretend you’re smarter than you are?

    • 回复: @AaronB
    , @AaronB
  85. anon[304]• 免责声明 说:
    @annamaria

    word seems to be getting out on the Leo Frank case. Lee Stranahan covered it recently in 2 youtube videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGFjSRhmrrw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTYDhwT4rC4

  86. Anne Lid 说:
    @Assad al-islam

    If you have it for cleanliness and because of scarcity of water, why don’t you have it done at the beginning of puberty?

  87. anon[304]• 免责声明 说:
    @AaronB

    Anti-Semitism is extreme and unbalanced hatred of Jews and distortion of facts to justify that. Its not just pointing out that Jews do bad things and have some bad characteristics like everyone else.

    如今,任何对犹太人的批评,无论多么有效,都经常被贴上“反犹太主义”的标签

    Yet this distinctly European attitude towards the world is projected onto Jews, the people who made morality and Faith their life!

    如果是这样的话,全世界都会爱犹太人

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
    , @AaronB
  88. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    Ok, but whatever you think of the Enlightenment, you can’t deny that it is the culture of critique that destroys traditional cultures.

    You are even admitting that Jewish culture would be primitive and backwards if not for the Enlightenment – in other words, the Enlightenment destroyed traditional Jewish culture.

    You may think this is a good thing, and you may think the physical benefits were worth it.

    But you have to admit that its profoundly weird that Europeans, whose distinctive and original contribution to the world is precisely and exactly the culture of critique that destroys all traditions, are projecting this on to Jews, who are the source of the three Western religious traditions?

    How can any person not find this significant – a clear case of projecting the Shadow?

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Colin Wright
  89. scrub 说:

    Anybody who thinks that Freud’s reputation has become entirely tarnished because of his fraudulent research or behavior is sadly mistaken.

    I was recently watching a Hoover Institute video on TV. For those who don’t know, The Hoover Institute at Stanford University is where old Neocons are put out to (a very lucrative) pasture. The interview involved Atheism and Darwinism and included on its panel three guests. Two of of the three guests were Jews (and “prominent public intellectuals”) David Berlinski and David Gelertner.

    When the very proper and goyish host Peter Robinson at one point in the encounter made what he thought was an offhand and innocent comment about Freud having been being discredited, the two Jews immediately joined in and very vociferously claimed in unison that Freud (despite all the evidence against him) simply hadn’t been discredited. They seemed to a viewer like myself to be spoiling for a fight about this comment.

    Robinson was taken aback by their strength of their denial and immediately realized that he had entered the dangerous realm of “saying things that Jews don’t like to hear” . With a panicked look on he face he immediately went into into “goyish survival mode” and tried to backtrack on his original remark by sheepishly implying that maybe Freud hadn’t quite been as discredited as he had previously thought. The two Jews were only mildly appeased by his rather abject apology.

    Freud still has a very pivotal role in Jewish culture because he had been very effective in making antisemitism a mental aberration/disease rather than a response to Jewish behavior. Most Jews still accept his claims. Freud still makes Jews feel very good about themselves in their often contentious relations with “irrational or crazy” gentiles. Jews are not about to easily give up that feeling.

    Freud had long ago become a Jewish totem. Like Capt. Dreyfus Like Leo Frank, Like the Spanish Civil War with its Jewish led International Brigades killing Spanish Catholics in order to “teach Hitler a lesson”. Like their Jewish ancestor’s membership in the “idealistic” 1930s Communist Party USA (where the word Holmodor was curiousoly unknown). To question a totem is heresy.

    Anti-totem-ism in action: A few years ago a couple of French army generals said publicly that they thought famous Capt. Dreyfus might have been, in fact, guilty of the charges lodged against him.

    Their punishment for this “anti-totem-ism” was amazingly quick and especially fierce. They were not only thoroughly blacklisted. They also lost their army pensions. Even their decades of service did not protect them. This was done in order to teach all others the dangers of questioning a Jewish totem.

    Hoover Institute TV host Peter Robinson will be especially vigilant in the future to never make his little “mistake” again.

    • 同意: Colin Wright, Alden
    • 回复: @utu
  90. @Greg Bacon

    ‘…Now if this was a Muslim practice, every night, Wolf Blitzer would be foaming at the mouth, reporting on the latest baby rape.
    But since it’s Jews, mum’s the word.’

    That much is probably true. That the rabbi gets a sexual thrill out of it, I doubt.

    • 回复: @anon
  91. Anonymous[208]• 免责声明 说:
    @AaronB

    Christianity is Greek you halfwit

    • 回复: @utu
  92. Freud was initiated into the recently founded B’nai B’rith in September 1897

    Excellent research!

  93. @AaronB

    ‘…But you have to admit that its profoundly weird that Europeans, whose distinctive and original contribution to the world is precisely and exactly the culture of critique that destroys all traditions, are projecting this on to Jews, who are the source of the three Western religious traditions?’

    This would be all well and good — except that it’s not true.

    For the last hundred years and more, Jews have been disproportionately represented in every movement aimed at destroying traditional society. Revolutionary socialism, radical feminism, the promotion of sexual deviance, aggressive anti-white propaganda: Jews have always been very prominent in these, sometimes by an order of magnitude.

    So it’s not ‘projection.’ It’s observing the actual state of affairs.

    • 回复: @AaronB
    , @The Dark Night
    , @Poco
  94. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Agent76

    Freud was a postgraduate student with Charcot at the Salpetrière Hospital in Paris from October 1885 to february 1886 . Charcot received students from all over Europe .

    Charcot provoked great attacks of histeria in women with hypnosis in front of his students , and suggested that they were caused by sexual traumas . At that time europeans were very puritan in sexual matters . Some people said that the women were payed by Charcot to simulate being hypnotized and perform the hysteric fits , those ” scientists ” you know…..

    Back to Vienna Freud tried to hypnotize the patients , but failed , and then he decided to switch to the armchair , patients lying , he at the side and behind .. et voilà …..the word and the dreams would be the way to the ” unconscious ” .

    Freud also tried to cure depressions with cocaine , even himself tried cocaine , when a phisician friend of him got adicted to cocaine and suicided he stopped his cocaine trials .

  95. @anon

    ‘…these days any criticism of jews, no matter how valid, is often labeled as “Anti-semitism”’

    Be fair. These days the tag is generally used to inhibit criticism of Israel.

    If you want to rant about circumcision or even go on and on about the 协议, you can pretty much knock yourself out; no one will care.

  96. @Assad al-islam

    ‘The Jewish and Islamic circumcision differ in concept and intention…’

    I see no reason to doubt most of what you say about circumcision — but I doubt it is practiced in Islam for the reasons you offer.

    Rather, it would be because Islam was Judaism/Christianity purified of corruption; a return to what God said. So circumcision is a valid practice in Judaism; therefore it is in Islam as well.

    Naturally, any practice that offers health benefits will tend to be perpetuated — if only by natural selection. However, I’d bet the reason for the mandate in Islam is theological, not hygenic. This is what God wants you to do.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  97. AaronB 说:
    @anon

    如果是这样的话,全世界都会爱犹太人

    Unfortunately, that’s not how the world. Morality is hated – people want to be bad.

    如今,任何对犹太人的批评,无论多么有效,都经常被贴上“反犹太主义”的标签

    我认为双方都有错。

    许多批评犹太人或以色列的人显然是反犹太主义者,而与此同时,犹太人可能会利用这一点来污名化甚至合法的批评。

    But if so much of the criticism wasn’t unhinged, Jews would be much less successful at stigmatizing ordinary criticism.

    • 回复: @annamaria
    , @Druid
  98. utu 说:
    @Anonymous

    Christianity is Greek you halfwit

    This is true but a special role of Jews can’t be denied. This role assured a position of Jews of not being pagans or heathens which protected them from forceful conversions. This was the greatest mistake of the Church that it did not treat Jews just like any other pagans and heathens. Then Judaism and Jewry would have survived only outside of Christendom and the Western Civilization would be protected from their negative influence.

  99. anarchyst 说:
    @Assad al-islam

    “Modern science” does not support removal of a healthy body part. Circumcision IS “male genital mutilation”, no matter way you look at it.

    The “health aspect” of circumcision can be compared to “climate change”. Both ar frauds of the highest order.

  100. Anonymous[119]• 免责声明 说:
    @mastodon

    …I am certain more than likely our ultimate demise.

    Hopefully not. One thing is certain: they will never stop on their own. They will either exterminate themselves or… exterminate themselves and the rest of humanity.

  101. Wally 说:
    @mastodon

    问题是为什么这么多犹太人的大笔交易都是欺诈性的?
    From Freud to Einstein, the fake ‘pogroms’, the fake “holocaust”, the list seems endless.
    他们的问题是什么?

    And why must Jews be “新娘在每次婚礼上,尸体在每次葬礼上“。

    另外,我认为由于他们的谎言很容易被揭穿,唯一的办法就是压制关于他们的言论自由。
    前任。:
    歌手/词曲作者 Alison Chabloz 再次被判入狱,这次是因为使用博客: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12760
    排除:

    来自德比郡查尔斯沃思的查布洛兹去年因创作、表演和出版嘲笑犹太人和大屠杀的歌曲而被定罪。

    这些指控与 2016 年在右翼伦敦论坛上演出的名为 Nemo 的反犹宇宙,我喜欢它是怎样的歌曲有关,还有第三首名为 (((survivors))) 的歌曲。

    在后者中,查布洛兹用哈瓦·纳吉拉 (Hava Nagila) 的调子嘲笑了犹太人物,包括诺贝尔和平奖获得者埃利·威塞尔 (Elie Wiesel),以及安妮和奥托·弗兰克 (Otto Frank)。

  102. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    Culture of critique theory doesn’t merely note that ethnic Jews have been heavily involved in Enlightenment-derived efforts to destroy traditional cultures in modern times.

    That would be fine. There are plenty of Hellenized apostate Jews who have assimilated into European culture. Secular Jews are ambitious, and many will strive for leadership positions in their new European cultural home.

    MacDonald completely fails to mention that the Enlightenment is the source of these tradition destroying ideas, but seeks precisely to link it to Jewish culture and religion.

    This is what is so profoundly perverse, when 练习 unique European contribution to world culture is precisely the “culture of critique” – rationality, analysis, rationalism, science, philosophy, the Enlightenment. Any child will tell you that rationalism, analysis, etc, refusing to accept things on tradition or faith, is Europe’s “gift” to the world.

    So to locate tradition destroying culture in Jewish religion and culture, is clearly a case of Shadow projection of the most startling and astonishing sort.

  103. Skeptikal 说:
    @Colin Wright

    “but it’s implicitly contrasted with the undefined but apparently uniform and healthy psychology of everyone else.”

    不它不是。
    These ideas are not analogous to a law of physics or mechanics whereby a force in one direction automatically engenders an equal force in the opposite direction, or what ever the actual law is.

    Sociopathologies of Judaism don’t automatically exclude the existence of sociopathological patterns arising from other religious beliefs. If you are a Catholic, say, why don’t your write about that menu of sociopathologies?

    Don’t expect Guyenot to do so!

    So, the whole comment is predicated on a faulty assumption:
    “Is that really at all accurate? ”

    No it isn’t accurate. You just made it up. Classic misdirectional maneuver.

    This comment sounds like a complicated variation on whatabouttism. I expect better from Colin Wright.

  104. @AaronB

    Its the distortion of facts, the selective use of facts, the use of historical truths to exaggerate and inflate claims, etc, in order to demonize Jews that is anti-Semitic.

    Heard this in too many permutations to enumerate.

    The problem, Aaron, is that Jews have been more active about advancing legislation to criminalize or suppress expression than any other contemporary interest group (e.g. anti-BDS laws, laws against Holocaust revisionism, etc.). FWIW, it disturbs me when Muslims seek to join Jews in advocating “hate crime” legislation. We should play no part in this fiasco.

    Why do Jews do this? They regard this variety of expression as “anti-Semitic,” and as such, threatening to their safety and security.

    Now imagine if we were to apply this same pattern of legislation to anyone who felt offended or similarly “threatened.”

    Is this supposed to be God’s light unto the nations, leading us to a better existence?

    • 回复: @AaronB
  105. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    As for Darwinism, there is no denying that it is utterly amoral and promotes an outlook on life that can only be described as psychopathic.

    And Darwinism has become the explanation of the meaning of life in the West.

    Again, you may think Darwinism is correct and has benefits, but you must admit only one culture in the entire world invented and then adopted an explanation for the meaning of life that is utterly psychopathic, and pushes morality out of its traditional role at the center of life’s meaning.

    (This is a big part of why whites feel a crushing burden of guilt, but that’s another issue)

    One may ignore the high morality of the Prophets and focus on what some people see as some of the less sublime teachings of the Talmud – but even these do not dispense entirely with moral calculations and simply embrace an amoral attitude. The opposite, actually.

    So again, for the one culture which invented and adopted a psychopathic outlook on life to then seek to define Judaism, where moral concern is at its core, as essentially psychopathic can only be seen as another profoundly weird and astonishing case of Shadow projection.

  106. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Isabella

    Isabella , besides the mythological aspects , Freud was also a clinician and some times made good clinical observations . In one ocasion regarding the Edipus theory , he complained that many phychiatrist were pesting him for saying what any woman raising children knew .

    Many clinicians see the Edipus this way . The baby is born from the mother and is milked and cared by the mother , and thus identifies with the mother , the baby girls being women identify with the mother for the rest of their lifes . But the baby boy first identifies with the mother and in a second stage has to disidentify with the mother and identify with the father .

    In order to do that the mother has to enpower the father , the masculine figure , and ” give ” the boy to the father , baby girl is like mommy and baby boy is like daddy . If the mother disempowers the figure of the father , rejects the masculinity of the father , or is so egoist that wants the baby boy only for herself , she creates what the italians call with just one word , a ” mamone ” , a tit ( mama ) sucker , ( or a mamòn in spanish ) ,with low virility , effeminated , who is under the power of the mother , of women , and does not completely identify with the figure of the father , like a man .

    It is a sexual thing , but not a genital thing .

    Given the attitudes of western women , and of western men , and the sexual politics of Governments , is easy to understant why there are so many ” mamones ” in the west , isn`t it ?

    The Gods punishment for edipic ” mamones ” is blindness , that`s to say mental blindness , stupidity , lack of inteligence , lack of Logos .

  107. Franz 说:
    @Miggle

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8944-jubilees-book-of

    Early Jewish apocalypto. Rabbi Salkin notes that most of the secular Jews he talks to remember nothing about their early religious training but they do remember the “breaking the gods” story, which tells me they are quite clued to the Jewish destructive tradition, like or no.

    Actually they also have the Noahide laws in them, which is fairly well known in some quarters.

    • 回复: @Miggle
  108. @Alden

    When watching the History channel one must consider: who owns the channel, is there inherent bias, does the channel have ulterior goals?
    If the jews can convince the world that the (alleged) holocaust was so traumatic it altered only their DNA, can they ever sufficiently be compensated? \$\$\$\$\$\$.

  109. Franz 说:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Like Moses Abraham is just a myth.

    完全同意。

    But as the Irish researcher Herbie Brennan used to say, don’t bother with the story itself, ask why the story has such enduring popularity among large numbers of people? Why do Jews 喜欢 the fact their history starts with an act of flat out deliquency and destruction?

  110. @Paul

    No corroborating data needed when you have B’nai B’rth on your side.
    Read the author’s book From Yaweh to Zion. Interesting stuff.

  111. Franz 说:
    @Digital Samizdat

    a guy suffering from acute schizophrenia, constantly hearing the ‘voice of God’ in his head

    For my money that’s a pretty good description of every religious leader since we hung out in caves.

    But some have more staying power than others, and nobody has a formula to 摆脱 of them once they take root.

  112. Skeptikal 说:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    I find Guyenot’s comments about the psychic trauma of circumcision to all who must be dragged into the ritual (mother, father, everyone else who knows what is to come, what he/she must do to his/her own male child, and on and on) to be sharply inciteful I mean insightful.

    I have long felt that the circumcision circus was sociopathic and, well, disgusting.
    Taken out of its Jewish religious setting and put into any other setting it would be recognized as the primitive but also hugely damaging mumbo-jumbo that it is.

    Imagine a group of people forced to gather to observe and witness the ritual mutilation of any other person in, say, a gym or a swimming pool or a library or any other specific place. That would be highly illegal and forcing people to watch would be considered psychological torture. Indeed, forcing a person to watch or hear another–in particular a relative or spouse, or ny other person with whom one has a strong psychic bond—being tortured is a classic form of psychological torture. E.g., “Drop the gun or I cut off one of your son’s fingers. ” The stomach churns just imagining it. How is that different from “We are going to cut off a piece of your son’s penis and you will watch and if you don’t like it you will be cast into social and psychic isolation forever and ever.”

    That this traumatic mutilation is the basis of the Jewish convenant with God is sick sick sick.

    Glad to read such a searching essay on the psychic sickness and the manner of the success of its projection onto Gentiles.

  113. Skeptikal 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Bardon always has to argue and prove his better credentials.
    He tries with bald assertion to disprove the writer’s complex thesis and hammer home his own conclusion:
    That Freud was a towering genius of Western thought.
    But just saying so does not make it true.
    The whole point of Guyenot’s essay is that he was not.
    Freud was an interesting product of his time and place, and many of his nutty ideas (such as the existence of penis envy; in light of the circumcision horror it is likely that penis envy, envy of an intact penis, that is, was a Jewish problem and projection) are deeply misogynistic. His and Fliess’s treatment of [can’t recall name] was criminal medical malpractice. Freud and Fliess were two quacks involved in a folie a deux.

    But Bard0n I guess thinks he can come out on top by listing a bunch of links to books that he suggests that Guyenot should read. No one is a more serious intellectual and scholar than Bardon! To understand his own errors of interpretation, Guyenot has only to apply himself to Bardian’s reading list to understand and accept Bardon’s views.
    The arrogance and smugness of this guy are unbelievable and extremely predictable.

    • 同意: utu
  114. And so it goes … the ever persecuted jews … and for what reason? One can not find an existing problem on this planet that doesn’t circle back to the jews. It’s as if they are a cancer infecting the very soul of society. Tossed out of nations over 100 times is very telling, and of their ability to deflect blame on others takes a very concerted investment by the tribes in time and money. They have even perfected ways to cause their victims to assume their inbred guilt and actually fund their operations. Look at what happened to Germany after 2 wars, the holocaust museums erected across the planet, all paid for by others taxes. Today all of the Western nations have governments infested with jews. They have almost completely captured Christianity, both Catholic and Protestant, well over 7 million in America alone.
    Now that they have a nation of their own jews should be shipped to it. Forced if need be.

  115. AP 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    He is in the past 50-70 years being dismissed by scientifically-oriented psychologists & psychiatrists

    I’ve written this before, but the abandonment of Freud in psychiatry (say, in favor of Skinner’s behaviorism) and the adoption of his ideas outside psychiatry both represent a process of degeneration.

    Within psychiatry or neurology, the backlash against him has partially reversed. Clinically his ideas are anachronistic and many are ridiculous, but the theories of post-Freudians such as Otto Kernberg and Heinz Kohut are considered to be useful, particularly in the diagnosis and treatment of people with disordered personalities.

    This forensic book is a classic:

    • 回复: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @annamaria
  116. Jake 说:

    “According to Andrew Heinze, author of Jews and the American Soul, Jews have shaped “American ideas about the mind and soul” with the preoccupation “to purge the evils they associated with Christian civilization.”[14] It really started with Freud.”

    No, it did not begin with Freud. It began with Anglo-Saxon Puritans coming here and bringing a Judaizing theology and a national culture formed by that Judaizing theology that was all about replacing Christendom with a Judaized form of a Germanic tribal identity.

    This descent into horrors cannot be reversed while bowing to WASP culture, while failing to act to re-embrace historic Christianity and rebuild Christendom.

  117. annamaria 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You seem to present yourself as a moralist, and yet somehow you did not notice that the passage you are so fond of belongs to a critique of a tyrant. Where Plato looked for the man, Freud was sniffing bodily fluids, profitably.

    “The moralists are determined that the tyrant, driven to excess, is less than a man.” https://books.google.com/books?id=LlEVDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA261&lpg=#v=onepage&q&f=false

  118. Skeptikal 说:
    @Art

    权利。
    Freud’s own family life was pretty incestuous. Or at least, his love life was majorly tangled. He very likely had an ongoing affair with his wife’s younger sister, Minna.

  119. Svevlad 说:

    It’s not just a Jew thing, it’s a general MENA thing. Who else practices genital mutilation so fervently even today, who is stereotyped to lust after starlets, offering money to them to commit acts humiliating to the payer? Heck, abos had the weird dick splitting thing and even they stopped with the bullshit (but if they had a bit more IQ without a doubt the world would have TWO “jew” groups – the Jews, and that one australoid one)

  120. Skeptikal 说:
    @Alden

    “Off topic history channel has a program about the DNA of holocaust survivors being permanently altered by the stress or whatever. And all their descendants from now have this altered DNA. Program cited a scientific American article supposedly proved this. ”

    Has anyone tested the Roma to see whether they have this mysterious DNA change as a result of their trauma?
    The Roma/Sinti genocide was more horrific and more complete than what happened to the Jews, and the Gypsies didn’t have any friends with German society to help and hide them, or friends in foreign countries to help them, or a land grab in some other territory set up especially for them to flee to. Of course they didn’t have any money to barter for their lives. Even their caravans and household items were stolen from them before they were sent to be gassed.

    But strangely enough we only hear about the Jewish trauma, not the Gypsy one.

  121. annamaria 说:
    @AaronB

    “道德被憎恨——人们想变坏。”

    - 好吧。 让我们调用一些名称。
    托洛茨基(布朗施泰因)是由雅各布·希夫资助的大屠杀者(他还资助了 1905 年对俄罗斯的日俄战争)。

    克里姆林宫之狼和乌克兰农民屠夫卡加诺维奇:“13 年 2010 月 1932 日,基辅上诉法院追认犹太契卡卫队拉扎尔·卡加诺维奇因参与 33-XNUMX 年的大饥荒而对乌克兰人实施种族灭绝罪。”

    Rozalia Zalkind(Zemlyachka)被称为“共产主义恐怖的愤怒”。 https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/
    GULAG 的组织者 Naftali Frankel 和 Matvei Berman。
    Genrikh Yagoda,“苏联秘密警察(NKVD,后来成为克格勃)的负责人,可能是有史以来最大的大屠杀者:” http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2017/05/soviet-crimes.html

    Kristol、Perle、Feith、Wolfowitz、Ledeen、Kagans 的战争贩子家族、NED 的名声 Carl Gershman(NED 是一所改变政权和安排内战的学校)。 Madeleine Albright-Korbelova,杀人犯和小偷的女儿。
    爱泼斯坦、麦克斯韦、韦克斯纳、阿德尔森、德肖维茨、阿尔佩罗维奇……你仍然是犹太人高尚道德的狂热信徒吗? 如果你愿意,请保持你的信念,但不要期望别人相信你关于最道德受害者的神话。 https://www.bh.org.il/blog-items/story-zvi-migdal-infamous-jewish-prostitution-cartel/

    你不能容忍人们批评犹太复国主义者犯有危害人类罪,因此你的诡计——将对这些罪行的当之无愧的批评称为反犹太主义。 不再工作了。 犹太复国主义者表现出如此之多的仇恨和无耻,以至于任何使犹太复国主义(以及全息骗局的暴利图式)神圣化的尝试都变得无能为力。

    “AaronB”宣称,“以色列本质上是防御性的。”
    您到哪里错过了自称为犹太恐怖主义、大灾难和土地盗窃的历史? https://thesaker.is/the-real-reason-behind-democrats-impeachment-of-trump/

    ……世界许多国家的领导人和代表对以色列占领和谋杀居住在这个露天集中营并被以色列人用作活靶的巴勒斯坦人表示严厉批评。 甚至中国人也提议以色列清除被占领土

    • 同意: Colin Wright, A.R., Poupon Marx
    • 回复: @Skeptikal
    , @Poco
  122. PorkTastic 说:
    @mastodon

    这让我们想到了百万美元的问题。 我们如何开始解决这个问题?

    除非这些对话从这个回声室中取出,进入“现实世界”,也就是矩阵,否则不会有任何经过深入研究的文章。 这将是困难和威胁,但必须完成

    就我而言,我已经尽可能以一种聪明、不具威胁性的方式与“优秀的思想家”讨论这些和其他事情。 并提出很难绕过的非常可靠的论点。 这一切都带着我的微笑,不显得自鸣得意或霸道

  123. @AaronB

    ‘…So to locate tradition destroying culture in Jewish religion and culture, is clearly a case of Shadow projection of the most startling and astonishing sort.’

    Others may do that; I don’t. It’s a bit much to see a lot of benighted Galician tailors, Yemeni whatevers, etc as the saboteurs of Western civilization.

    I’m merely observing the role Jews have played since their emancipation.

    I think you’re going to extraordinary lengths to erect a singularly unconvincing straw man in the pursuit of the obviously inane goal of absolving Jews of responsibility for anything.

    We’ve all sinned. The difficulty is that Jewry’s worst sin — Israel — is going on right now, and with my involuntary support. Absent that obscene little Nazi statelet, I really don’t think I’d bother my pretty little head about what Jews were or weren’t doing more frequently than what other white groups were doing. After all, in modern America, one’s particular religion really is pretty inconsequential; I know at least one perfectly intelligent — in fact, very intelligent — individual who wasn’t even aware Bernie Sanders was Jewish.

    I suspect that’s actually part of the reason so many less-secure Jews are such fanatic Zionists. They’ve little to cling to otherwise in the way of a meaningful identity — but that’s another subject.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  124. Judaism is a mental disease transmitted by viral memes. At some point in the past it jumped its host and morphed into leftism that now thoroughly infects gentiles.

  125. @Colin Wright

    His first books are brilliant. I learned to interpret dreams through his book. But later he kind of lost it. He was a cocaine addict. And also a materialist. Perhaps this explains it.

    However in the end of his life he wrote one last piece in which he reassessed his opinions about a lot of things – religion, intuition – right before he died. He was brilliant.

    Free associations technique which he developed opens the doors of understanding. From there we start. He shouldn’t be underestimated and bashed, as he has been in this article.

  126. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    I have no problem admitting Jews do bad things. Half the Bible is Jews doing bad things and being punished by God.

    So I’m certainly not trying to absolve Jews of all responsibility for various bad things they played a part in.

    What I am concerned with is correcting misperceptions of Jewish culture and religion, and having a correct understanding of Western culture and its self destruction.

    I think European guilt for having destroyed traditional cultures through excessive rationalism, and for inventing and then living by monstrous ideologies like Darwinism, is too heavy and crushing a load to bear – so many project the guilt onto a Scapegoat, the Jews. Other whites merely collapse in self hatred and idealize other races and cultures, which is equally bad.

    The one thing needful – atonement and repentance, ceasing to live by monstrosities like Darwinism, they do not do.

    As for Israel, your attitude toward Israel is not balanced. A person may oppose certain Israeli actions, or even oppose the manner in which it came into existence. But to ascribe all evil to one country and ardently wish for its destruction is not a healthy and balanced point of view.

    Even though I support Israel, my attitude is merely that it is more on the right than its adversaries. Not that it is without blemish. And even though I think, in the main, Arab countries and the Palestinians are the ones acting immorally and viciously here, I do not see them as utterly without virtue and without the right to exist, and I appreciate aspects of their culture.

  127. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    Most of the Jews involved in this are not traditional, and yes, they are definitely acting in a foolish and heavy handed manner – at least according to examples I’ve heard about.

    However, this whole process must be seen as a skirmish in the larger process of Enlightenment ideas unfolding in a predetermined manner.

    Criminalizing “intolerance” is criminalizing offenses against an Enlightenment virtue.

    Most of the world does not have free speech laws. America, being founded on Enlightenment principles, does. The interesting development now is that two Enlightenment principles – free speech and tolerance – are in direct conflict.

    As for Jewish involvement, to some extent it is leveraging emerging trends in Enlightenment culture towards deciding in favor of criminalizing intolerance rather than protecting free speech.

    No traditional culture is free of censorship, and absolute free speech is certainly not a Jewish value.

    Certainly traditional Islamic culture does not value absolute free speech, nor does Christian, nor Buddhist, etc.

    But yes, the specific way this is being done in America seems stupid and wrong to me.

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
    , @AnonStarter
  128. Alden 说:

    又跑题了

    The big airport in Orange County Ca is named John Wayne Airport. There’s a move to change the name because he was a racist. ( Also one of the few Golden EraHollywood stars who was neither communist or Jewish ). Forgot his wife was Mexican and his kids were half Mexican. Of course in those days she was White with a Spanish last name.

    A San Francisco model minority entrepreneur restaurant owner, Robert Chang claims that signs in super markets that say Ethnic Foods Latin Asian whatever is Jim Crow racist and segregationist.

    San Francisco asian restaurants; illegal slave labor who live in the restaurant, mystery meat masquerading as chicken beef pork, drug sales, money laundering immigration fraud.

    Or why we refuse to eat in Asian restaurants It’s just spice, starch and slaves. Fattening too, all that rice noodles crepes and scraps of dubious meat.

  129. As a veteran analysand and reader of Jeffrey Masson’s book (The Assault on Truth) I read this with considerable interest. It’s “curious” that I never understood from “The Assault on Truth” that the appalling degree of sexual abuse/incest he described was in fact, peculiar to only ONE culture, and one culture only. Rather, I got the impression pretty much ALL middle-class and upper middle class Europeans of the day were diddling and raping their daughters and nieces like it was going out of style… Dissembling and deceitful to the bitter end I suppose…

    … And it wasn’t till the age of 45 that I finally began to grasp what a atrocious, bullshit, empty bill of goods had been sold me (GASP!) with psychoanalysis: The utter contempt of the Gentile writ large in Judaism is epitomized with Psychoanalysis; as it is with Marxism, the pernicious and abhorrent philosophies that have made such a culminate and deadly impact on Western Civilization… Made to believe there was something deeply, unfixably wrong with me, that I would never be right, that I was grossly inferior, that I would have to lean on psychiatrists and counselors for the rest of my life …

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  130. @AaronB

    Aaron, aren’t Jews Europeans?

    Your comment is good. But there’s something missing. Perhaps the Church should have been mentioned, to complete the picture. I think the Church for the most part painted it.

    I mean, a nation cannot claim being of a high moral standard if people are burned at the stake for not following them, can it? And then, once the Church is gone people go bananas.

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
    , @Parfois1
  131. @AaronB

    ‘As for Israel, your attitude toward Israel is not balanced. A person may oppose certain Israeli actions, or even oppose the manner in which it came into existence…’

    My attitude towards forcible rape of four year olds is not ‘balanced,’ either. That doesn’t mean it’s unjustified.

    How’s your attitude about the Holocaust? ‘Balanced’ or ‘unbalanced’?

    • 回复: @AaronB
  132. @AaronB

    ‘…As for Jewish involvement, to some extent it is leveraging emerging trends in Enlightenment culture towards deciding in favor of criminalizing intolerance rather than protecting free speech…’

    You mean, ‘towards deciding in favor of criminalizing criticism of Israel.’ Jews would be all for free speech if it wasn’t that Israel is so indefensible.

  133. Gilles 说:

    你好洛朗,
    Avez-vous le texte français ou est-ce écrit directement en anglais ? J’aimerais bien non seulement lire ce texte en français mais aussi le relayer à mes contacts du Canada français. Bien à vous. Haut les coeurs !

    • 回复: @Wally
    , @Laurent Guyénot
  134. @The Dark Night

    ‘Aaron, aren’t Jews Europeans?’

    Depends on which Jews. Like Christians or Muslims, Jews belong to all sorts of cultures, and have little in common with each other beyond what texts they read in their church. Aaron and a Yemeni Jew share 没什么 that a Swedish Lutheran and a Filipino Catholic don’t share.

    …this is one of the many, many reasons Israel is such dysfunctional, indefensible enterprise. You might as well declare a ‘Christianland’ and populate it with various Christians from various random but unappetizing places and expect it to work.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  135. @AaronB

    ‘…Again, you may think Darwinism is correct and has benefits, but you must admit only one culture in the entire world invented and then adopted an explanation for the meaning of life that is utterly psychopathic, and pushes morality out of its traditional role at the center of life’s meaning.

    (This is a big part of why whites feel a crushing burden of guilt, but that’s another issue)…’

    Okay. That’s just strange. Aside from its logical indefensibility, I strongly suspect you don’t ‘feel a crushing burden of guilt’ on that account, and I know I don’t.

    I think you need to back up and rethink your drink. You’ve obviously imbibed or invented a bunch of little formulas that work — as long as no one examines them critically.

    It’s like if we all agree that the earth is flat. Well, that works — until someone comes along and points out what happens if we look at a tower from a great distance.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  136. @Colin Wright

    For two millenias almost until before two centuries ago more or less the Jews had to exist among people whose minds were twisted to the extent when the people couldn’t tell good from evil. Even standing and looking at “heretics” being burned those people couldn’t tell good from evil. And now the same people, or their descendants to be correct, are talking about traditions? Please.

    This is what I read some time ago –

    [更多]

    I recall being fascinated at the strangeness and creativity of tales like the 16th-century Jewish woman said to have given birth to twin piglets, the common 15th-century belief that Jewish males menstruate, and speculation that Jews buried their dead with small rocks to throw at Christ in the afterlife.

    Of all the artistic manifestations of anti-Jewish folklore, few are more acute, vehement, and scatological than the imagery of the Judensau, or ‘Jew-Pig.’ In brief, the image, depicted in woodcuts or in stone, often on churches between the 13th and 15th centuries, is an allegorical reference to Jews drawing sustenance from the Talmud, with Jews shown suckling from a sow and examining or eating its feces.

    In one legend, for example, the aversion to pork dated from the time of Christ, when a sneering Jew challenged Christ to guess the contents of a barrel that the Jew knew to contain a slaughtered pig. Unknown to the Jew, the pig had been removed and his own children were hiding in the barrel. When Jesus answered that the man’s children were in the barrel, he was mocked and told there was a pig inside. “Let them be pigs then,” replied Jesus, and the children were transformed into piglets. From that day onward, so goes the tale, Jews avoided eating pork because for them that would be cannibalism.

    The specific implication of the Judensau image is that Jews, in their spiritual blindness or as a result of possessing a perverted nature prefer to seek spiritual nourishment from something filthy and disgusting – the Talmud, rather than a pure and healthy source – the New Testament.

    This is astonishing.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @Robjil
  137. Wally 说:
    @Gilles

    Oh please, give us a break.

    Cut the ‘I speak French, I’m so special’ silliness.

    This an English language site.

    • 回复: @Svenska sällskapet
  138. @AaronB

    As for Jewish involvement, to some extent it is leveraging emerging trends in Enlightenment culture towards deciding in favor of criminalizing intolerance rather than protecting free speech.

    No traditional culture is free of censorship, and absolute free speech is certainly not a Jewish value.

    Your segue is misleading.

    We weren’t discussing the 内部 checks and balances within any given religious culture; we were referring to explicitly 世俗 law and the restrictions that Jews have brought to bear upon it, for everyone.

    CSZ 伊斯兰教法 is for Muslims, not for anyone else. It also commands protection of religious liberty.

    Certainly traditional Islamic culture does not value absolute free speech

    美国是一个 达尔阿赫德 [abode of treaty], sworn to protect the religious liberty of its residents, and as such, we abide by the terms of its contract, enjoying full rights under the aegis of its Constitution.

    Muslim American culture absolutely values that liberty, even if it should be exploited by its enemies to incite hatred of Muslims. Trusting in God, they know truth will prevail when nobody is fettered for telling it.

    But yes, the specific way this is being done in America seems stupid and wrong to me.

    有你有它。

    Another Jewish coup writ large upon America’s purportedly secular institutions of government.

    How much longer do you imagine Americans will remain oblivious to the patterns?

    • 回复: @AaronB
  139. @Colin Wright

    And of course, with those enormous families — up to twenty children — all kept at home and deprived of most of the forms of recreation available to children of normal families, sexual perversion was as likely to break out as it is in prison.
    ========================
    I guess they had no access to farm animals like rural kids do? No, I am not joking. A professional once told me that rural children often….I was horrified needless to say.
    It seems strange to me to equate children to prisoners. I personally think this is an ‘idle hands is the devil’s workshop’ argument. I’m not arguing against opportunity and environment having some influence in the sense of providing options. But, culture seems much more relevant.

  140. Freud: “I had contrasted this situation with another which befitted my feelings better: the scene in which Hannibal’s father, Hamilcar Barca, made his boy [Hannibal] swear before the household altar to take vengeance on the Romans. Ever since that time Hannibal had had a place in my fantasies.”

    There is more here than meets the eye. Sephardim are “Spanish and North African Jews.” And who are “Spanish Jews?” They are descendants of Carthaginian Phoenicians and their Berber Allies. (The Barca family gave their name to Barcelona.) Sepharad is the name of a Phoenician city in the Levant. So “Sephardim” is actually Hebrew for Phoenicians who were worshipers of Moloch. Yahweh was a divinity from the Northern Kingdom of Israel which was in the Levant. So Moloch and Yahweh are cousins. Who built the Temple for Solomon? Hiram of Tyre. Tyre was the principal Phoenician city, until subdued by Alexander the Great. Hiram is the victim/hero of the Freemasons. And after being defeated by the Romans, and incorporated into the Roman Empire, many of the surviving Punics of Spain and North Africa and their Berber allies became Jews to benefit from the privileges the Romans already accorded to Jews. So Phoenicians and Jews are as related as Moloch and Yahweh. Hence Freud could identify with Hannibal. And he could identify with the hatred of Rome (which Freud hated as he hated the spire of Saint Stephan’s Cathedral in Vienna). And he could identify with the eternal Jewish desire for revenge against Amalek.

  141. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    You may consider the idea strange, but it is actually a pretty common notion among classic European writers, philosophers, and thinkers.

    When people still read the classic authors, this would be well known.

    Back when I identified as white, I did indeed walk around with a sense of guilt and a sense that I am from a civilization that destroys the beauty of traditional cultures and is hostile to poetry, love, and imagination. This is one of the reasons I returned to Judaism.

  142. @Assad al-islam

    There is no such thing as “excess foreskin.” The foreskin has a protective role, God given, if you like. Where you had the circumcision done do you have a shortage of water for washing? If you want to be rational go all the way, instead of around in circles. There is no difference between male circumcision and female genital mutilation.

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
    , @acementhead
  143. In the Abraham story the idea that the sacrifice was Isaac makes no sense. Ishmael was older; the willingness to sacrifice the only son was rewarded by another son: that other son was Isaac. That makes Ishmael the intended sacrifice. Of course then, after Isaac was born, Ishmael was left in the desert. So, really nothing, makes any sense here. It is all meshugge.

  144. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    There are many forces at work today in America trying to criminalize intolerance – some Jews have unfortunately joined the bandwagon, as have unfortunately some Muslims.

    I condemn them, and am heartened that you condemn it from the Muslim side. That is good. It would be nice to get some liberals to condemn it from their side.

    However, Jews do not threaten violence against people criticizing Judaism or Israel , nor shoot up offices of magazines that do so. They limit themselves to working through the legal system and utilizing pre-existing trends in American society – and most do not concern themselves with it at all.

    Furthermore, there is considerably more freedom.of speech in Israel than the Muslim world.

    So it would seem that both in the West and at home, this is a far more serious issue among Muslims. I pray and hope that you guys get better.

    As for censorship in traditional societies, sharia law surely does not permit criticism of Islam by non believers.

    • 回复: @AnonStarter
  145. anon[281]• 免责声明 说:
    @Colin Wright

    That much is probably true. That the rabbi gets a sexual thrill out of it, I doubt.

    in the few photos i have seen of the practice, the rabbi opposite the “sucker” often has an excited look on his face

  146. anon[281]• 免责声明 说:
    @AaronB

    Back when I identified as white, I did indeed walk around with a sense of guilt and a sense that I am from a civilization that destroys the beauty of traditional cultures and is hostile to poetry, love, and imagination. This is one of the reasons I returned to Judaism.

    i know, its those dirty white folks that go around planning the destruction of 5 MENA countries in 7 years

    • 同意: Poupon Marx
    • 回复: @AaronB
  147. Jake 说:
    @James J OMeara

    At least regarding circumcision, you reason like a Jew or the ‘other’ Semites the Mohammedans.

    • 回复: @Anon
  148. Jake 说:
    @AaronB

    Whites have the guilt you describe because they have rejected Christ and Christendom. Being Jewish, meaning not just having the ancestry but choosing to be Jewish in identity, means that your sense of guilt will always be about Jewish flesh not getting served enough.

  149. Druid 说:
    @James J OMeara

    There is no such thing as Islamic FGM. You’re a site for suggesting this. Your prejudice leaks like your Schlong with this comment. It is a cultural phenomenon, mainly in parts od Africa.

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
  150. utu 说:
    @The Dark Night

    Forget about the dubious folklore and check how many Jews were stoned by other Jews in Europe for apostasy or heresy? When was the last Jew stoned in 19 century Galicia and for what? Why Jacob Frank and thousands of his followers converted to Catholicism in 18 century Poland? What were they afraid of?

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  151. @Anonymous

    I am really getting tired of this constant drumbeat of the evils-occult and obvious-of circumcision as mutilation, lasting trauma, yada yada. This has become a badge of something, like a cult or exclusive virtue signaling committee.

    Face it, scientifically and factually, it is no more than piercing ear lobes of infant girls in the Catholic tradition, like all of my nieces. They are not traumatized in the least. There is no data, no systemic effect of negative behavior traits (it has to be observable to be considered worthy) of circumcision.

    What IS known is that the circumcised penis have less probability of getting and transmitting infectious and contagious diseases. Let’s take facts and data.

    This rubbish belongs in the alley dumpster along with Climate Change, White Privilege, Systemic Racism, Diversity Is Our Strength, and many other isolated-from-Reality tropes for dopes.

    The other takeaway is to cast extreme doubt on any Jewish Social Scientist and at least moderate on any other. Nothing makes me more livid that putting forth half-baked, sophomoric, bizarre, baseless NOTIONS [not even assertions], and then repeating them over and over, throwing any distant tangential thing or phenomenon to desperately prop up an upside down pyramid.

    • 回复: @roo_ster
    , @Auyamsar8
  152. Druid 说:
    @AaronB

    You and yours claim to be “chose” and will rule the goyim and each of you have 700 slaves, etc. dumbass!

  153. @Druid

    A meaningless statement. A more precise way is to say it is most highly correlated-found-in this case with Islamic societies, even if there is no commandment or incitement in Islamic holy writ. What is found in Islamic religious writing is the complete denigration of woman, as mere chattel, having the status of of herd animal. Get it?

    This creates the context that the desires and wants of women have no validity or basis.

  154. @ploni almoni

    Ridiculous. Unscientific. Baseless. Lacking evidence. The way you framed it, it is little more than a subjective and cosmetic preference.

    However, the advantages of circumcision from a prophylaxis and disease inhibitor are evidence based.

    Plus, a survey by the National Institutes of Health Library of Medicine found that women prefer circumcises penises by a significant margin.

    Go to Follow Commenters, under my name, and read my arguments why your position is unsupportable. You have not made your case. I have made mine.

    • 回复: @Kolya Krassotkin
  155. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    I object to the Holocaust, but I don’t think the Germans alone are responsible for world war two, or that there is zero virtue or good qualities in the German nation, or that Germany alone must be abolished and destroyed.

    What’s more, you may think Israeli actions are very bad, but to compare them to the Holocaust shows an inability to have a mature opinion on Israel.

    I think Arab and Palestinian actions are very bad, but they are nowhere near large scale historical atrocities etc.

  156. Druid 说:
    @AaronB

    A zio Jew talking morality. That seems to be a canard among you guys. Discredited Max Boot kept touting his own skewed morality on tv. Haven’t seen him since

  157. @AaronB

    ‘..Back when I identified as white, I did indeed walk around with a sense of guilt and a sense that I am from a civilization that destroys the beauty of traditional cultures and is hostile to poetry, love, and imagination. This is one of the reasons I returned to Judaism.’

    This is a non-sequitur. One cannot change one’s race by adopting a religion.

    In any case, I really feel no guilt about being from the West — none at all. Eighty percent of what mankind has accomplished was done by us. What would music, philosophy, medicine, art, law, architecture, science, theology, law, literature…anything be without us?

    ….whoops, without me. You jumped ship. Nothing to do with you. No sirree.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  158. AaronB 说:
    @anon

    You actually bring up an important point.

    Whites don’t feel guilt because of the bad actions of some whites historically. All groups have more than their fair share of bad people.

    Whites, however, developed a culture of moral badness , Darwinism, capitalism, etc., and then attempted to live by it.

    Justifying badness – saying it is the best way to live because it is “efficient” – is what perpetuates the guilt.

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
  159. @AaronB

    ‘…What’s more, you may think Israeli actions are very bad, but to compare them to the Holocaust shows an inability to have a mature opinion on Israel…’

    咩。 水晶之夜 is almost playful compared to the slaughter Israel has engaged in in just the past year. Prior to the war becoming general — say up to Barbarossa — what was the greatest single atrocity committed by the Nazis? A few hundred dead?

    Compare Sabra and Chantila — and we all know perfectly well what your nation would do to the Palestinians if she ever had the cover of a major war.

    …and ya gotta consider scale. Germany was ten times the size of Israel. Plus, Israel has to keep the good opinion of the US — the mighty mite commits all the war crimes it can get away with.

    It’s a Nazi state. Circumstances prevent her from fully expressing herself — but her heart’s in the right place.

    是不是

  160. @AaronB

    ‘I object to the Holocaust, but I don’t think the Germans alone are responsible for world war two, or that there is zero virtue or good qualities in the German nation, or that Germany alone must be abolished and destroyed…’

    This is — yawn — a false comparison.

    No one is talking about destroying Jews or Judaism. We’re talking about doing away with Israel, their ideological project, just as the Third Reich was the ideological project of Nazism.

    Want to stay in Palestine? Go right ahead. Of course, you’ll need to grant the vote to all the Palestinians you rule, let them participate fully in the military and police, and allow all the descendants of those you’ve illegally expelled to return.

    Or, you can figure Zionism should be handled about the way Nazism was handled.

    • 回复: @utu
  161. @AaronB

    ‘Why not drip the psychopathy, stop projecting your shadow and accept your negative traits like all humans have, stop seeking Scapegoats, and love yourself without demonizing others?’

    It really does sound like you’re looking in a mirror and talking to yourself, Aaron.

  162. Richard B 说:
    @Colin Wright

    Psychoanalysis says, in effect, that patients can change bad habits by a process of mental redirection.

    What happens? The patient keeps indulging in the bad habit.

    解决方案?

    More psychoanalysis.

    Or, to put it baldly, more money for the psychoanalyst.

    It’s no different than a tribe of American Indians hundreds of years ago who lived in the now southwestern states of the USA who had elaborate and protracted dance rituals for rain.

    When the rain didn’t come, it never occured to them to attribute this to some meteorlogical effect, etc. No, they’re answer was simply, “We didn’t get the dance right.” So, the solution was more practice.

    The important technical matter regarding psychoanalysis is that it seperates mind from body from the get go.

    It unquesitoningly assumes that “psychical” mechanisms are different from bodily operations and independent of them.

    Psychoanalysis thinks that mental habits can be straightened out by some kind of psychical manipulation without reference to distorted sensations and perceptions which are the result of bad body habits.

    It would be like a nerve physiologists trying to locate a particular diseased cell or local lesion, independent of the whole complex of organic habits, in order to effect a change in the organism.

    By seperating mind from body they seperate means from ends in terms of any “recovery” of the patient.

    The doctor and patient never truly establish a specific goal to bring about a lasting change of behavior and the means to accomplish this goal. That’s why so much time is wasted talking about the past. Or, the patient’s interpretation of their past and the psychoanalysist interpretation of that interpretation.

    In short, it’s a racket, a scam that leaves the patient worse off than before they started.

    The best remedy for the patient is to get as far away from psychoanalysis as possible.

    Sounds like a familiar pattern between Jews and Gentiles in general.

  163. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    Its not a racial thing. It’s a culture thing. One can choose to no longer perpetuate a bad culture, and heal oneself.

    • 回复: @Poco
  164. @Colin Wright

    The children, unconsciously trying to meet the equally unconscious desire of the investigators, were literally inventing the most lurid and (these being four-year-olds) fantastic tales of sex abuse.

    Utterly false on all three claims.

    The claims were invented by the “investigators”(should be called criminal fraudsters). The Peter Ellis case is a good example. The detective in charge had sexual relations with several of the “complainants” mothers. The mothers got thousands of dollars from New Zealand taxpayers. The whole thing was an utter disgrace

  165. @ploni almoni

    There is no difference between male circumcision and female genital mutilation.

    This is the stupidest thing that I’ve read on UNZ, and the competition is ferocious.

    Neither I nor my parents are jewish but as the vast majority of parents did in New Zealand my parents had me circumcised as a neonate. This was standard practice in NZ until about mid 1960s and I’m eternally grateful that they did.

    FGM on the other hand is not analogous at all and is utterly indefensible.

    Women vastly prefer circumcised men.

    • 同意: Poupon Marx
    • 回复: @Auyamsar8
    , @Liza
  166. @AaronB

    The European “culture of critique” was not destructive of morality, the Jewish “culture of critique” was deliberately created to 摧毁 morality. That is the big difference. The reason that you don’t see that is that you are under the delusion that Jews are the epitome of morality, and therefore critique of Jews by Europeans is in reality an attack on morality itself, a projection of their own “shadow” on Jews.
    Have you ever wondered whether the Old Testament with its injunctions of genocide, the Talmud with its prescriptions of cheating Goyim, rabbis with their preaching of hatred are really examples of Jewish moral superiority? Why are most big financial frauds committed by Jews, why is Israel a terrorist rogue state if Jews are so moral?

    • 回复: @AaronB
  167. @Wally

    Does the strong Jew tendency towards mental illness…

    What “strong Jew tendency towards mental illness” ?

    The increase of 40%(if real, which it probably isn’t) from almost nothing(~1%) remains almost nothing, it is certainly not a strong tendency towards mental illness.

    • 回复: @Theodore
  168. @AaronB

    ‘…Whites, however, developed a culture of moral badness , Darwinism, capitalism, etc., and then attempted to live by it…’

    This is simply an unconscious admission of ignorance.

    走开。

    • 回复: @AaronB
  169. utu 说:
    @Colin Wright

    “We’re talking about doing away with Israel…” What if you could force all Jews of the world to move there? Wouldn’t it be better to have them there than here? Wasn’t it the original allure of Zionist to gentiles? Even Nazis liked Zionists. Obviously it was false pretense and Hitler saw through it that they never wanted to move there but only wanted to have a sovereign base for their international operations and university for crooks. But why if we could send them there in exchange for several millions of Palestinians? Put all eggs in on basket and watch it.

  170. @AaronB

    “…Half the Bible is Jews doing bad things and being punished by God…”

    And the other half is Jews doing bad things and being rewarded by “God”, such as the genocide of the Canaanites.

  171. Anon[323]• 免责声明 说:
    @Jake

    Most Mohammedans are NOT Semites you dolt! No more than 18% to be precise!!

    We come in all races and ethnicities! I am a pacific islander from Fiji now staying in Malaysia. Studied at Northampton in the formerly “great” Britain. The weather was way too gray for my taste and so was the food!!

    Thankfully I left before my boy could start identifying himself as Ann Coulter in the morning and Max Boot by nightfall

  172. @Gilles

    Bonjour Gilles, Le contenu de cet article se trouve, grosso modo, dans plusieurs articles français: Essentiellement “Freud et l’inceste” sur Egalité & Réconciliation”:
    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Freud-et-l-inceste-une-histoire-juive-51010.html
    Mais aussi, sur la circoncision:
    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Le-calvaire-des-circoncis-du-huitieme-jour-47267.html
    et sur Kafka:
    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Kafka-la-judeite-et-le-complexe-d-Isaac-50796.html
    Vous pouvez trouvez sur ce site beaucoup d’autres articles. Presque tout ce que j’écris sur unz.com est une version améliorée de ce que j’ai écrit sur ER, ou dans mon livre Du Yahvisme au Sionisme, disponible en français sur Kontre Kulture (voir aussi peut-être sur Amazon) https://www.kontrekulture.com/produit/du-yahvisme-au-sionisme
    你的

  173. Anonymous[209]• 免责声明 说:

    It seems to never fail that those most interested in pushing self-help crap are far more messed up than their audience. I’m reminded of Jordan Peterson and his Apple Cider of Doom, and his camwhore daughter. This is the guy arrogating to the masses that they must wash themselves and clean their rooms?

    What’s funny is, when you understand the hype tricks, you can watch it play out in real time. Jordan Peterson got his fake opposition “feminist protestors”, which hyped his reputation as a politically incorrect rebel, even though he had worked for the UN. Then on YouTube the algorithms direct you to him from totally unrelated topics, funneling you there from any slightly conservative leaning topic. The same happens with any approved kosher podcasts or radio shows. Before long he’s got millions of fans and consults for the Trilateral Commission.

    I think with Freud, Marx, Einstein, etc. they did the exact same thing. Back then more communications were face to face, and personal correspondence gets lost or never revealed. But today everything has an electronic signature, and when the pendulum swings things will not look so good for the manipulators.

  174. Anonymous[209]• 免责声明 说:
    @AaronB

    Yes, we are very bad. You innocent Jews should stay as far away from us as possible. You should probably warn your schwarze brothers to stay away too, for their own protection. For that matter, I’m not sure why you ever wanted to live with us in the first place, nor why you encouraged so many innocent brown peoples to move here too. To stay safe, I recommend leaving Europe or North America as quickly as possible.

    • 回复: @Colin Wright
  175. cositstrue 说:
    @ploni almoni

    Pioni Almoni: What is your evidence for the Phoenician origins of Spanish Jewry? That is, what reliable historians have written about this?
    A coincidence of names is no proof. I remember the British Israeli movement “proving” the Jewish origins of Britons by noting the travels of the tribe of Benjamin all the way to Britain via Belgrade etc by noting any city en route with an initial B as evidence.

  176. Patric 说:
    @AaronB

    AaronB I think you (deliberately?) confuse the Enlightenment which had a more gentle evolutionary component of gradual change from older beliefs to the more typical Jewish revolutionary destructive and violent hatred of those same beliefs. One system is basically gentle but the other is far from that. This might well relate to the un-imaginable trauma and violence inherent in the rite of circumcision which unfortunately was later adopted in England and the US. Those nations have become very violent also and are addicted to ‘bombing’ helpless targets as a way of foreign policy

    If is convenient for your argument to conflate two very different things which well seems very ‘Jewish’ actually

    • 回复: @AaronB
  177. Alfred 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    As a teenage boy, I had the strange experience of my own mother trying to provoke my sexual lust for her. She was an exceptionally pretty woman. She never worked and looked after herself very well. I found that I was repulsed by her and pretended not to notice her effort. It never happened again. I think she never forgave me. I was not mentioned in her will.

    I have no idea if this happens a lot. My father was always polite and kind to us children. He never punished us.

  178. @AP

    He’s not one of my more important interests (so I’m not following what’s written about him), but – from what I know- would not agree. Perhaps 5-8 years ago I’ve read in Sci Am & Nature something similar, but it was furiously squashed by modern neurologists & brain researchers.

    In psychology proper, you got cognitive psychology & similar, more modern stuff. Skinner is as dated as is Freud, and other approaches (humanist, transpersonal,….) have been relegated to insignificance. They have virtually no therapeutic value & only healthy people with their own, not very big, problems are into them.

    As far as psychiatry goes, great advances in medical technology, pharmacology, brain scanning, genetics,… have rendered most of psychoanalysis & similar talk therapies useless. With schizophrenia, bipolars, various psychos …. the best you can come up with are medications & other “material” therapies.

    Re cultural influence, this age is bathed in sci fi, neural networks, sensors, human biocomputer paradigms, even New Agey appropriation of fundamental physics… so that psychoanalysis, with its old Viennese aura i post-WW 1 artistic flavor, seems hopelessly dated.

    • 回复: @AP
  179. @ploni almoni

    Good informative comment. Indeed, Freud also mentions that his love for Hannibal was shared by all his High school friends (Jewish, most certainly). The connection between Phoenicians and Jews is a historical issue that I sense to be an important one, yet cannot get a good grasp of. Martin Bernal (author of Black Athena) has made the point that Jews appear in history when Phoenicians disapear (Carthage’s destruction, basically, in the 2nd century BC). Maybe Jews are the Phoenicians come back with a vengeance. One interesting point is also that the Latin fathers of the Church, who are in my view responsible for transforming Western christianity into a Levitic institution, are Carthaginians: I am quite convinced that Tertullians was a Jews, for example.

  180. Parfois1 说:
    @The Dark Night

    I mean, a nation cannot claim being of a high moral standard if people are burned at the stake for not following them, can it?

    I suppose you refer to the “auto-da-fe” run by the Inquisition. If so, it might be of interest to read the historical record.

    At the end of the XV century, the Jews in Iberia were to be expelled unless they accepted conversion to Christianity, that is, they were given a choice. Most left but some chose conversion and remain.

    However, many (probably most) of the conversos practised in secret the Jewish rituals, the “conversion” being false. That was their crime, as it would be for any Christian who practised a heresy since the Lateran Council of 1215.

    So, since they agreed to become Christian – hence subject to ecclesiastical rules – the Jews were treated like any other Christians. In other words: they could not have the cake and eat it too, as they are doing it today almost everywhere.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  181. Sigmund Freud’s fame made by B’nai B’rith.

    His Oedipus-complex mostly applies to circumcised Jewish males (8 days old), to young to hate their father!!!

  182. roo_ster 说:
    @Poupon Marx

    Many times, one must Fight Fire With Fire.

  183. AP 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    As far as psychiatry goes, great advances in medical technology, pharmacology, brain scanning, genetics,… have rendered most of psychoanalysis & similar talk therapies useless.

    不同意。

    Here is someone who successfully treated schizophrenics with psychoanalysis (though not of the Freudian kind – it is indebted to Fromm and Irish–American Sullivan) and with no medication. Article is well worth reading, even if author makes some mistakes (dismisses genetic component)*:

    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cc73/d432bc85265422c7be98056482d3f0696fd7.pdf?_ga=2.236670339.306971475.1569935916-2036046784.1569935916

    The problem is it requires considerable time; while it is cheaper in the long-term (10+ years) it is much more expensive in the short-term which is what is relevant for insurance companies.

    They have virtually no therapeutic value & only healthy people with their own, not very big, problems are into them.

    Again, disagree. This may be true, with caveats, for people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (but see above) but is certainly not true of people with disordered personalities (borderline, narcissists, etc.). Medication alone will not cure such people, they are cured within the context of corrective relationships with trained people. Borderline pathology is not minor – it involves people who routinely cut themselves, assault others, etc. Typically these are people who were abused as children (in the case of borderlines) or exploited (narcissists, who are less severely impaired).

    概要:

    https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-65-2-98.pdf

    • 回复: @Bardon Kaldian
  184. Poco 说:
    @Colin Wright

    Traditional jewish culture is peaceful doncha know. Ignore the Torah and Talmud upon which it is based.
    Modern jewish culture is peaceful doncha know. Ignore the actions of Israel and the identity of the people trashing our culture. They do it because … gentiles developed the enlightenment.
    This character is just another liar.

  185. Skeptikal 说:
    @annamaria

    对了,安娜玛丽亚!
    The need to constantly push back against AaronB’s (and Fran Taubman’s) nonsense is tedious in the extreme, but you have the chops to do it.

  186. @Isabella

    I think your assessment of circumcision is a convenient outlet for your antisemitism, if not anti-theism.

    1. It’s performed on an infant, perhaps to prevent psychological trauma.

    2. It’s health benefits likely outweigh any possible drawbacks.

    3. (And here is the most speculative part) We can argue whether in modern culture is the necessity to exactly replicate the ancient aspect of the priest’s method of “disinfecting the wound,” nonetheless the should be some latitude in that was the original intent and they are merely conforming to tradition.

    • 回复: @Kolya Krassotkin
  187. @AP

    Sorry, I don’t have enough time for new extensive reading. Just one, final, comment: I have 2 friends who are borderlines. They’re incurable (one of them tried to commit suicide twice). Only medication, to some extent, worked. Group therapy & all talk did not do anything.

    True, to be overmedicated is not a solution, too. One of them, a professional painter, found that a combination of medicines & work therapy (drawing, painting,…) was the best for him. I haven’t seen them for some time, but I think it is usual: their lives are alleviated by medication, but- they’re incurable.

    • 回复: @AP
  188. I don’t care for the writer’s unquantified projection of Freud’s client’s psychopathy onto all of Jewry. A cheap shot that sullies an otherwise refreshing article.

  189. Skeptikal 说:
    @Capt. Roy Harkness

    I know at least two people who have been psychologically crippled by their extended analyses.
    One of them is Jewish, a person whom I somewhat cared for until his Jewish supremacy complex (he reminded me that the Jews were the “moral conscience” of the Gentile world, which I consider total BS, and also used this viewpoint as a pedestal from which to accuse me of racism!) came out one time too many and I had to break off the friendship.

    Now that you mention it I recall that Masson’s account of his own analysis is a significant element in his book (which I read years ago, when it came out).

    In connection with the appearance of Masson’s book one should also make a point of reading Janet Malcolm’s take-down of it in the New Yorker. The two writers should be read in tandem.

    我们 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Malcolm

    Actually, I didn’t realize that Malcolm was born in Prague, the daughter of a psychoanalyst.
    That makes her own case even more interesting. She has constantly tried to use “psychologizing” as an entry point to seize the high ground in her narratives of people whom she writes about. In other words, her “insights” automatically make her right by providing putatively irrefutable evidence that is better than other types of evidence. Of course it is all self-serving.

    The Wiki entry ends with this observation:]
    “But in Esquire, Tom Junod characterized Malcolm as “a self hater whose work has managed to speak for the self-hatred (not to mention the class issues) of a profession that has designs on being ‘one of the professions’ but never will be.” Junod found her to be devoid of “journalistic sympathy” and observed, “Very few journalists are more animated by malice than Janet Malcolm.” He concluded that Malcolm is both “self-serving” and “utterly full of shit.”[23]

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  190. Skeptikal 说:
    @Skeptikal

    PS。
    In fact, Malcolm could herself be the subject of a significant father complex of some kind in connection with psychoanalysis.

  191. AP 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Just one, final, comment: I have 2 friends who are borderlines. They’re incurable (one of them tried to commit suicide twice)

    Those are precisely the ones who benefit most from competent psychodynamic therapy, which shows stable reduction in suicide attempt etc.

    https://www.borderlinedisorders.com/borderline-personality-disorder-TFP-research.php

  192. Poco 说:
    @annamaria

    But their traditional culture is so peaceful. Haven’t you read the Torah and Talmud. That peaceful culture was destroyed by the Gentile European Enlightenment. This Aaron fellow is awful.

  193. Poco 说:
    @AaronB

    And you adopted jewish culture to heal yourself and stop perpetuating a bad culture?
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You’re a real card.

    Or seriously mentally ill.

  194. Dutch Boy 说:

    There is a simpler explanation for the neuroses of Freud’s female patients. Many of them were caring for their syphilitic fathers (syphilis was rampant in 19th century Vienna). The commonest treatment for the lesions of syphilis at that time was dressings containing mercury (some practitioners actually injected mercury into their patients!). These unfortunate women were actually exhibiting symptoms of mercury toxicity which Freud misinterpreted as neuroses secondary to sexual abuse. Symptoms of chronic mercury toxicity include:
    易怒
    anxiety/nervousness, often with difficulty in breathing
    躁动
    exaggerated response to stimulation
    恐惧
    情绪不稳定
    -lack of self control
    -fits of anger, with violent, irrational behavior
    loss of self confidence
    优柔寡断
    shyness or timidity, being easily embarrassed.

  195. Liza 说:

    Alfred commented,

    rate of neuroses and character disorders among Jews was about three times as high as among Catholics and Protestants

    Plenty of other peoples of the Middle East, including Christians, circumcise their baby boys but they don’t seem to suffer from the neurosis referred to at the end of this article.

    That’s because nonjews don’t do this on the 8th day. Something naturally happens in the brain on the 8th day, a major shift of some sort, which when interrupted by the pain and blood loss of genital cutting, changes the brain, producing an unusual, unique mentality.

    These are the ideas of one Roger Dommergue. I read this years ago, maybe not even on the internet but possibly in an article in a health magazine (I think). But here is what I see on the internet now:

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2014/09/Circumcision-Explains-Jewish-Psyche.html

    I have no idea if Dommergue’s ideas are accurate or not. They have never been studied – and I doubt that they ever will be. All this stuff about circumcision merely being an identification mark or a means of controlling sexuality may be a deflection, IMO.

    • 回复: @Alfred
  196. annamaria 说:
    @AP

    Solms speaks about emotions:

    His [Solms] insights also helped in his clinical practice. Because he thought about the emotions that must lie behind the patients’ fantasies, he could explain their odd behavior to families and talk to his patients in ways that would calm them down. Explaining patients’ bizarre delusions to them as emotional fantasies — you wish life were this way because you are frightened — could often lift their confusion.

    There is an abyss between affective neuroscience and the fantasizing Freud (people have been fantasizing for millennia).

    Freud was a fraud similar to why Lyssenko was a fraud, notwithstanding the current research in epigenetics. Where is Freud’s data? Where was his professional ethics?

  197. Auyamsar8 说:
    @Poupon Marx

    “This rubbish belongs in the alley dumpster along with Climate Change, White Privilege, Systemic Racism, Diversity Is Our Strength, and many other isolated-from-Reality tropes for dopes.”

    “Circumcision is good for you” and “Circumcision must never be compared to FGM” are literally those though. They’re all Jewish constructs. Why are those ones laughable but what has been for millenia an alien, afro-semitic blood ritual sane? Because it was done to you and acknowledging it requires you to admit you were harmed and lost something?

    https://www.jweekly.com/2013/01/04/circumcision-is-not-only-jewish-its-good-for-you/

    This was one of America’s leading circumcision proponents for years (along with many other Jews.) You’d laugh at something like “Mass immigration is not only Jewish, it’s good for you” but this one is self-evident?

    Why do you think Jews achieved such eminence in American society? Maybe it had something to do with the normalization of their blood ritual on the majority of American men for generations? You can’t even criticize it on those grounds?

    “Face it, scientifically and factually, it is no more than piercing ear lobes of infant girls in the Catholic tradition, like all of my nieces. They are not traumatized in the least. There is no data, no systemic effect of negative behavior traits (it has to be observable to be considered worthy) of circumcision.”

    Well, maybe you should take a look at these Turkish boys and bare in mind this happens across the Muslim world but gets no attention whatsoever in contrast to “FGM”, a Jewish feminist narrative: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4650152/Turkish-boys-circumcised-no-anaesthetic.html

    And this huge gallery of horrifically mutilated penises in just one part of South Africa from a circumcision ritual called “Ulwaluko:” https://ulwaluko.co.za/Photos.html

    And maybe just photographic evidence of what happens when you remove a soft, moist, tactile thing from the penis (there’s a lot out there): http://www.circumcisionharm.org/gallery%20intact.htm

    Also correct me if I’m wrong but don’t ear piercings just make a hole in the ears that heals up? How is that comparable to permanently removing part of the genitals?

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
    , @Skeptikal
  198. Auyamsar8 说:
    @acementhead

    “This is the stupidest thing that I’ve read on UNZ, and the competition is ferocious.”

    Well of course it is. Going on half a century now the world’s media outlets, backed by the UN, have been promoting a narrative that amounts to “female genital mutilation is always, always a horrible, crippling atrocity that removes the ENTIRE clitoris, which is the EXACT, 100% analogous structure to the penis, and this happens all across Africa and the Muslim world, and nothing like this EVER happens to boys.” So someone saying otherwise is on par with drawing Mohammed for a Muslim. I’ve seen it all the time. It’s incredible how much that narrative resonates with people and how insane they get when you question it.

    Too bad it’s a monstrous lie created by the same people (radical feminists) who think all sex is rape: https://ulwaluko.co.za/Photos.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/25/male-circumcision-ceremonies-death-deformity-africa
    http://www.circumstitions.com/yemen.html

    Funny you mention NZ- did you know circumcision basically died after the 70’s and barely any NZ boys have been circumcised neonatally since then?

    http://www.circumstitions.com/NZ.html

    If women vastly prefer circumcised men then why have women been able to survive in your country for 40 years without the men having scarred penises? Or most of the rest of the world’s women, since this is overwhelmingly an African/Islamic practice?

    You’re an insecure, profoundly illiterate boomer.

  199. AaronB 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The Enlightenment was an attack on God, spirituality, tradition, faith, and morality.

    It was an attempt to see the world in rational terms solely. It was inspired by Greece.

    Capitalism, Darwinism, and similar ideologies which have no room for morality, were formulated shortly thereafter.

    Judaism made moral concern the pivot and center of life, and were the source for the three great religious traditions of the West.

    The critical method elaborated in the Talmud – the Jewish culture of critique – is for the purpose of explaining morality and tradition and operates within very narrow limits set by tradition and faith. It is the exact opposite of the Enlightenment. It is a form of medieval scholastism.

    It used to be a a European boast that only they had developed to the point where they questioned traditional faith and morality, while Jews remained stuck within the narrow bounds of tradition.

    The attack on “morality” you ascribe to modern Jews is an Enlightenment attack on traditional morality in favor of modern values that derive from the Enlightenment.

    • 回复: @Franklin Ryckaert
  200. AaronB 说:
    @Patric

    My friend, the Enlightenment was an explosive revolutionary movement. Shortly after, it inspired the French Revolution, which enshrined goddess Reason and led to widespread terror.

    The French Revolution was an attempt to destroy all tradition and faith.

    The American Revolution was also inspired by it.

    Revolutions may be sudden and explosive, but they often take time to fully develop their implications. The past few hundred years have been the Enlightenment gradually unfolding its implications, now faster, now slower.

  201. AaronB 说:
    @Colin Wright

    Someone has a guilty conscience, it seems to me.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
    , @Colin Wright
  202. Liza 说:
    @acementhead

    Women vastly prefer circumcised men.

    Such women have shit for brains, then.

    In certain parts of the world, men won’t have anything to do with un-cut women, regardless of the degree of the denaturing.

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
    , @acementhead
  203. @Parfois1

    You are missing the point comrade.

    Yes the Jews who then converted were treated like all other Christians and I understand that though cannot see a crime in practicing Jewish “rituals”, whatever that means. Let alone a crime that should be punished in the most brutal fashion possible.

    The point is that Christian culture was not a culture of great moral, because moral was enforced and imposed on people and was not their own choice. And now, since there is no more Church burning them at the stake people are indulging their inclinations.

    The second point implied here is that blaming the Jews is plain stupid.

  204. @Colin Wright

    Yes there are some minor groups like Yemeni Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Parsi Jews and Iraqi Jews who are not Europeans. But the rest of the Jews are. You know, the Jews had been Europeans long before most Europeans knew what their nations were. And the Jews share much more than text: the Weltanschauung, and the language.

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
  205. @utu

    很高兴。

    This is a good point I can make now: the Jews do not murder heretics. Jacob Frank became a Catholic in order to infiltrate the Church and corrupt it from the inside. He wasn’t afraid of the Jews. He hated them.

    Baruch Spinoza was considered a heretic and was excommunicated: this is as much as the Jews can do to a heretic. Herem.

  206. @AaronB

    They limit themselves to working through the legal system and utilizing pre-existing trends in American society

    In effect, Aaron, what Jews do as per legislation is 更坏 than threaten or perpetrate physical violence, since it codifies the illegality of dissent against zionist endeavor, giving it the imprimatur of authority. The same cannot be said of ephemeral, physical attacks. Moreover, the number of “Muslim” extremists who have attacked cartoonists is proportionately infinitesimal to the number of Jews actively engaged in the criminalization of speech challenging to their agenda.

    As for “freedom of speech” in Israel, it’s just another element of its Potemkin facade, one which Israel must maintain in order to keep up appearances for the goyim:

    https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/speech_in_israel_is_not_free.php

    An Israeli journalist reported in an 专栏 in the International Herald Tribune this month that another Israeli journalist and ex-soldier had been sentenced to four and a half years in jail for blowing the whistle on potential Israeli war crimes. This was after the whistleblower was confined to house arrest for two years. Another reporter for 哈阿雷斯, who received the leaked documents from the ex-soldier, may face criminal charges, despite having received approval from his military censor to publish a related report.

    Fact is, Israel receives more direct and indirect financial, materiel, and political assistance from America than anyone else in the world several times over. Its Arab neighbors are paid off in accordance with their agreement to keep peace with it, which means that this expense is also a consequence of American support for Israel.

    And you want to compare the Muslim world’s effort to suppress speech in America and Europe with that of the Jews? Seriously?

    You’re going to have to do better than transparent 图夸克 fallacies that are utterly irrelevant to the contemporary political landscape in the west.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  207. @Auyamsar8

    Fallacious arguments. Unrepresentative and emotive photographs from the Third World. Not germane, intellectually dishonest and lacking integrity or reason or measure.

    This is not worth responding to. I argue concrete facts and outcomes, not “soft secretions in the sky”, like your void and null posting.

    In the end, you offer no science, no data-as I have done-but this is Jewish and that’s the only reason people do it.

    You are pitiable and wretch.

    • 回复: @Auyamsar8
  208. @Liza

    This is not a cogent argument. You may be incapable of logic thinking. “In some parts of the world….”. Lashes and ashes for you.

    • 回复: @Liza
  209. @Kolya Krassotkin

    I’ve already given a lot of citations, scientific research. But just for you, here is a compilation. If you have doubts, then chase down the references and come back with a methodological criticism base on the inductive reasoning or evidence. Otherwise do not waste my time or that of others.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

    • 回复: @Kolya Krassotkin
    , @Auyamsar8
  210. Liza 说:
    @Poupon Marx

    @Poupon. It’s plenty cogent if you consider that all human beings function best with all their body parts intact. Whole-ness of the body sets the standard.

    Yes, you can play piano with a finger missing (or even an entire hand gone!) or hear with one ear missing, or see with only one eye or walk with only one foot, etc. – but no one should pretend that it’s ideal regardless of how or why the body part came to be lost.

    Millions of men may be missing a part of their sex organ and then they spend the rest of their life saying they are better off for not having it. I think it’s called “making a virtue of necessity”. Have it your way if you wish. I am not going to make enemies.

    Lashes and ashes, huh.

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
  211. @Liza

    Look, I’m sure you are a nice person. And I don’t want to hurt your feelings. But I have posted EXHAUSTIVE comments containing scientific research, surveys and more. I am tired of this.

    Your analogies are deeply flawed, your metaphors are a universe apart. Your reportage is vague and unquantifiable. Just go on believing what you want, like a Helen Keller imagining the world.

    I don’t care. Your currency is like Venezuelan Bolivars to my Swiss Francs. Yeah Yeah, Climate Change is real, too. And also Gun Control reduces violent homicide.

    Most women, in a respected survey, prefer the circumcised penis. But beauty is in the beholder. And some women prefer ugly sticks.

    晚安。

  212. @Poupon Marx

    Wikipedia is not a reliable authoritative source.

    You made a claim about the benefits for the removal of a healthy body part. Now, respectfully, support your claim with data, please.

    As were most gentiles my age I was circumcised as a neonate, and I do not bewail that I underwent the procedure. It was what it was, and I have more important things to concern myself. But now being older, I regard the involuntary removal of any healthy body part of an infant, for dubious reasons and of questionable worth, as barbaric and immoral.

    It is claimed that circumcision reduces the risk of penile cancer, but the incidence of that is low compared to the incidence of breast cancer, and I hear no one advocating prophylactic mastectomies for female newborns. As to hygiene there is always soap and water.

    (Of course, there is good money to be made selling foreskin fibroblasts and a drop in circumcision will reduce the trade in those.)

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
    , @Liza
    , @Skeptikal
  213. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    Fact is, Israel receives more direct and indirect financial, materiel, and political assistance from America than anyone else in the world several times over.

    这是荒谬的。

    America fought wars for the safety of Europe and Asia, with hundreds of thousands of men killed, and astronomical sums pent. America also fought wars for the safety of Kuwait, at vast cost and with loss of American life.

    For the past 70 years America has kept garrisons in Europe and Asia, at vast expenditure and risk of American life, and continues to do do.

    This utterly, utterly dwarfs American aid to Israel which began in the 1980s and involves no American troops – the money which, must be spent purchasing American military goods, so gets funnelled directly back into the American economy.

    Again, it can only be the guilt of Europeans at growing fat and wealthy under American protection, after Americans died in the hundreds of thousands to restore order on the continent, that led to the creation of this absurd charge that the miniscule aid Israel receives comparatively is the largest.

    I am sorry to see you parrot such absurdity.

    Its Arab neighbors are paid off in accordance with their agreement to keep peace with it,

    Arab countries keep the peace because they have no wish to be destroyed in war again. The weak kid doesn’t need to be bribed to not pick a fight with the high school boxing champion.

    In effect, Aaron, what Jews do as per legislation is worse than threaten or perpetrate physical violence, since it codifies the illegality of dissent against zionist endeavor, giving it the imprimatur of authority.

    I thought we both agreed that neither Muslims nor Jews – or most of the world – value unlimited free speech, but that it is incumbent upon both of us to follow the laws of the countries we live in.

    Jews seem to be doing do, whereas Muslims seem to resort to violence and intimidation.

    And again, it’s false to portray this as a Jewish led effort – if cultural trends in America begin to favor criminalizing intolerance, as the internal logic of the Enlightenment takes its next step, its natural for Jews to seek to benefit from this – a smart and alert community will seek ways to benefit from any emerging trend, if possible.

    But this is not a case of Jews imposing their values on Americans through coercion, but rather an attempt to ride an already existing wave.

    Muslims, however, tried to coerce the majority of the countries of the West to abide by Sharia norms with respect to depictions of Muhammad – there was no riding the wave or trying to benefit from already existing trends. There was intimidation.

    And, my friend, quite aside from the immorality of this, it is ham fisted and stupid. The Muslim community takes a harsher line on free speech, and Muslim culture in general is far stricter on it, but lack the political power of the Jewish community. But the idea that Muslims are more accepting of free speech than Jews is absurd.

    Finally, there simply is no comparison between free speech in Israel and the Muslim world. Anecdotal reports of isolated abuses in Israel cannot be compared to the systematic repression of dissent in the Muslim world.

  214. @AaronB

    “…The Enlightenment was an attack on God, spirituality, tradition, faith, and morality…”

    As far as I understand it, it was partly a reaction to religious fanaticism as displayed in the 30 Years War which killed an estimated 20% of Europe’s population. Thus “reason” seemed far more attractive than “faith”.

    “…Judaism made moral concern the pivot and center of life…”

    That is indeed the established opinion Jews have about their religion, but how “moral” are the Torah, the Talmud and other Jewish scriptures really ? The Torah is full of immorality, as is the Talmud. For immorality in the Talmud, see : Dilling : V. Talmudic Immorality, Asinity and Pornography.

    “…The critical method elaborated in the Talmud – the Jewish culture of critique – is for the purpose of explaining morality and tradition and operates within very narrow limits set by tradition and faith…”

    Much of it is legalistic hair-spliiting (“pilpul”) by which anything can be proved or disproved.

    “…The attack on “morality” you ascribe to modern Jews is an Enlightenment attack on traditional morality in favor of modern values that derive from the Enlightenment…”

    Jewish attack on morality is aimed at weakening the Goyim, so as to lessen the danger of “anti-Semitism”.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  215. @AaronB

    “…This utterly, utterly dwarfs American aid to Israel which began in the 1980s and involves no American troops – the money which, must be spent purchasing American military goods, so gets funnelled directly back into the American economy…”

    Israel “buys” weapons from America with money it gets from that same America. This amounts to it getting weapons for free. America doesn’t profit from this arrangement at all.

    • 同意: Poupon Marx
    • 回复: @AaronB
  216. Skeptikal 说:
    @Auyamsar8

    So far I don’t think I have seen mention on this thread of the fact, so I hear, that circumcision reduces the sensitivity of the penis and thus reduces pleasure.

    Could this be one reason Jewish males often have to go to such lengths to experience sexual pleasure and release? Like, finding someone like “the Monkey” in Portnoy’s Complaint who assumes weird postures (supposedly that is why he called her the Monkey—not, oh no no no! because she was a shiksa that he was exploiting to get it off).

    Or could this difficulty of attaining pleasure explain the obsession with shiksas? Because they stimulate the Jewish male’s imagination and lust more powerfully? So they help him get over his sexual insensitivity hurdle?

    Maybe these boychiks just have a hard time getting aroused sufficiently and orgasm.

    That would explain a lot . . .

    • 回复: @Auyamsar8
  217. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Look, you are wasting your energy on nothing. Wikipedia is a compendium, not an original source. It lists the sources in this article. Why don’t you overcome your lassitude and sloth and check these sources out??? Huh?

    The rest of your post is incoherent and atomized excreta. Good Night.

    • 回复: @Kolya Krassotkin
  218. Auyamsar8 说:
    @Poupon Marx

    “Fallacious arguments. Unrepresentative and emotive photographs from the Third World. Not germane, intellectually dishonest and lacking integrity or reason or measure.”

    That is exactly what feminists, journalists, the United Nations etc. have done with “female genital mutilation” for decades now and a central reason why you think it’s absolutely, totally incomparable to “circumcision”. Take the most extreme, brutal and least common forms of FGM found only in certain parts of Africa; endlessly present these as the norm/universal; claim things that have never actually been documented (complete removal of the clitoris, an extensive internal organ); act like these atrocities never happen to males; rinse, repeat. For going on half a century now, until people are incredulous this narrative could be in the least bit fallacious.

    Of course they’ll also, at the same time, admit to variation- if you look at WHO definitions they have 4 broad types of FGM divided into many different subtypes, ranging from ritual pricking that doesn’t even draw blood* all the way up to infibulation. But their rhetoric is always “this must never be compared to circumcision/male genital mutilation doesn’t exist.” Because it’s a radical feminist fraud legitimized by the most cancerous globalist organ on the planet and shamelessly used by Jews to legitimize and promote their form of genital mutilation.

    If this narrative never took off, Jewish power and control wouldn’t be as strong as it is now. “FGM must never be compared to circumcision” has served to profoundly trivialize and delegitimize all criticism of Jewish genital mutilation. Now it’s become something of a religious dogma, the unique, incomparable evil of FGM and the incomparability of it to male circumcision/the denial of MGM, and “circumcision” is fanatically promoted as an AIDS preventative (this link also the product of Jewish researchers: http://intactwiki.org/wiki/Aaron_J._Fink) in third world nations where there’s basically a drive to essentially universalize the practice across Africa (https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-developed-circumcision-device-to-be-distributed-in-africa/).

    The fact you repeatedly use terms like “ZOG” yet sit here repeatedly defending Jewish male genital mutilation says it all. There’s probably nothing that will ever convince you and you’ll never be free of their brainwashing. Jews have truly done a number to the psyche of white Americans.

    *A common form along with clitoral hood removal in Muslim southeast asia, where it’s regularly done in clinics and hospitals by trained medical professionals on infant girls, including removal of the clitoral hood, the female analogue to the foreskin- but the UN still sees these as totally incomparable: https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/magazine/20circumcision-t.html

    “Any distinction between injuring the clitoris or the clitoral hood is irrelevant, says Laura Guarenti, an obstetrician and WHO’s medical officer for child and maternal health in Jakarta. “The fact is there is absolutely no medical value in circumcising girls,” she says. “It is 100 percent the wrong thing to be doing.” The circumcision of boys, she adds, has demonstrated health benefits, namely reduced risk of infection and some protection against H.I.V.”

    Translation: “Every part of a girl’s vagina is essential and important. Boys just have a completely, utterly useless part that can be removed for whatever reason. But really it’s because if we spoke out against male circumcision and at all recognized the plight of boys in these third world countries, Jews, and feminists (massive overlap between these two)- our handlers- would come screaming.”

  219. Skeptikal 说:
    @AaronB

    Nice try to use superiority treatment a la psychoanalysis (IOW, “I know more about you than you do yourself!”).
    B— s—.

    • 同意: Colin Wright
  220. Liza 说:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    As to hygiene there is always soap and water.

    Water only. Doctors in the know say that using soap on the glans promotes loss of beneficial bacteria, which would lead to various chronic problems [which are then “solved” by…circumcision]. Here’s an excerpt from an article I found:

    The Problem with Soap and the Intact Penis

    By Sam Carnes, MS CMD

    The biggest risk to an intact male is the ignorance about the foreskin and its proper care. Contrary to popular belief, the intact penis is not difficult to care for and keep clean. In fact, it is the all-too-frequent overzealous attempts to clean that cause the issues. The best and most accurate advice that all should follow is to leave it alone, never retract an infant or child, and never use soap under the foreskin. Only the boy himself should retract his foreskin when he is naturally ready.

    Thank you, Kolya, for being on the right side in this matter and speaking out.

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
  221. Auyamsar8 说:
    @Poupon Marx

    Just a couple of things I wanted to say about this, but the circumcision article (and virtually all articles relating to circumcision) on Wikipedia- for years- was dominated by a childless British homosexual with no medical background by the name of Jake Waskett, who used to frequent discussion boards relating to circumcision fetishism: http://intactwiki.org/wiki/Jake_Waskett

    He has also co-published various articles promoting circumcision with this man- who is, without any exaggeration, a sadistic gay pedophile with a circumcision fetish- and is also the single greatest promoter of circumcision in modern times:

    http://intactwiki.org/wiki/Brian_J._Morris
    http://www.circumstitions.com/morris.html

    You’ll notice these men are both Anglos. There has been no race of people on Earth as astonishingly philo-semitic as the Anglo-Saxon, who own the distinction of being the only European people in all of Western history to normalize circumcision independent of Islamic conquest.

    So no, Wikipedia isn’t a reliable source (neither is WebMD, or any American medical organization or anything tied to the UN.)

    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
  222. Skeptikal 说:
    @AaronB

    “For the past 70 years America has kept garrisons in Europe and Asia, at vast expenditure”

    Yep, the biggest and most expensive of those garrisons is Camp Israel.

  223. AaronB 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Well, the American arms industry benefits. And America taxes them, so some of that money goes back to the government. And the industry is a crucial part of American defense, do subsidies towards it are good.

    So even though obviously the primary beneficiary is Israel financially, it is done in a way that diverts maximum benefits back to America. This is not the case in Europe or Asia, where actual American lives have been on the line for decades.

    Ultimately, America developed a close relationship with Israel after the 1967 victory, because it was seen as useful.in the Cold War.

    Like all of America’s network of alliances and beneficiaries, some perceived American political interests are at stake.

    China, for instance, was almost entirely built up by American investment banks, without which it would never gave developed. In a sense, Goldman Sachs created modern China.

    This was done out of perceived American interests. The calculations now, of course, are changing.

    • 回复: @Prajna
  224. Skeptikal 说:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    “Wikipedia is not a reliable authoritative source.”

    Ya dah ya dah.

    Which parts of the wiki entry on circumcision do you find to be incorrect?

    Everything must be read critically of course.

    But Wikipedia is very often a good place to start.

    • 回复: @Kolya Krassotkin
  225. AaronB 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Jewish attack on morality is aimed at weakening the Goyim, so as to lessen the danger of “anti-Semitism”

    .

    Even if you make that argument, it is using the arguments, concepts, and ideas developed and honed to perfection by gentile Enlightenment thinkers, and to some extent the Romantic reaction.

    To claim that the sources for this subversion lie deep within Jewish tradition and culture going back thousands of years is absurd. There is no precedent in Jewish culture or religion for attacks on traditional morality and faith – however, there is ample precedent in white European culture.

    Attacks on traditional morality and faith by white gentile writers were the main cultural movements of the 19th century onwards. Attacks on European culture and civilization likewise. The Enlightenment, in the 18th century, was obviously an explosive attack on the foundations of European culture.

    If, after all this, ethnic Jews who abandoned Judaism got leadership positions in the 20th century that contributed these cultural trends, it is absurd to claim the entire cultural movement was created by Judaism.

  226. Auyamsar8 说:
    @Skeptikal

    I have variously heard and the gotten the impression Jewish circumcisions are actually less invasive and less prone to complications than typical neonatal “medical” ones. Much of this is because mohels are often very well trained (I use this pretty loosely in the context of cutting off parts of baby’s penises) and use more free hand tools that allow the circumcision to be done very quickly. Some mohels can apparently do it in as little as 15 seconds. This is in sharp contrast to non-religious neonatal circumcisions where they’re done with devices that take much longer and of course the personnel are more poorly trained- it’s not unheard of for new medical students to practice on live infants. Then factor in how they didn’t start to regularly use anesthesia until barely 20 years ago, and often still don’t. Doctors are under no legal obligation whatsoever to use it or administer it properly. No guarantee it works in every case either.

    Oh, and don’t forget how Jews wait 8 days. Very common for non-Jewish infants to have it done within the first 24 hours of birth.

    The speed and lesser trauma of Brit Milah also perhaps biases people to thinking the procedure is commonly like this. Given how they’re often public affairs and how quickly and efficiently they’re done, it really can seem like “just a little snip.”

    • 回复: @Liza
  227. @Auyamsar8

    Gott im Himmel. What an under sack response. A needless bit of historical nothingness and a worthless opinions that screams of needless parsing.

    I am so tired. Wikepidia is a COMPENDIUM, A COLLECTION of sources, you DOLT. If you cannot evaluate research and studies based on methodology and sampling and integrity, than kindly watch the squirrels on the front porch.

    Do you know ANYTHING about statistics, STEM disciplines or what constitutes empirical demonstration?

  228. annamaria 说:
    @AaronB

    “…you may think Israeli actions are very bad, but to compare them to the Holocaust shows an inability to have a mature opinion on Israel.”

    — It is rather your opinion that sounds immature.
    The facts, such as the atrocious deeds of Jewish Bolsheviks in Russia and Jewish self-proclaimed terrorists in Palestine, do not agree with your white-washing of Israelis’ crimes. Besides, why the ADL and such are so militantly (and hysterically) against research in WWII and the Bolshevik revolution? This vicious persecution of freedom of information by the zionists is the real assault on western values.

    Enough already of Elie Wiesel’s opinions: “some things are true that never happened and other things that happened are not true.” https://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/elie-admits-his-true-stories-never-happened/

    • 同意: Robjil
    • 回复: @Poupon Marx
  229. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    The last 1oo years of the Zion Age of Faith is many times worst than what you have written here.

    Your sayings are folklore and not something talked about or studied by people at the Top of society at that time.We had thousands of burning at stakes in the last hundred years.

    WWII over 135 German cities were targeted, most Japanese cities, many French and Italian too. The ZUS even created German towns in the US to practice bombing to burn infants in cribs in German cities.

    ZUS after the war, bombed North Korea so badly that nothing practically was standing up.Vietnam and South East Asia was bombed with naplam. Naplam is still effecting millions today in South East Asia.

    Depleted Uranium bombs have been used for over 20 years for ZUS attacks on Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, etc. This poisons soils for generations.

    1991 Purim – Highway of Death- thousands of surrendering Iraqi soldiers burned alive from ZUS bombs from ZUS air raids on them. This is the day the war “ended” and how it “ended”.

    This how ZUS “fights” holy wars for Eretz Israel and its FED, burning at the stake with fire bombs just like the Middle Ages but on a gigantic barbaric scale.
    .

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  230. @Liza

    Yeah, Liza, your alternative universe (one of many I am sure) will get you through life. Who needs data and empirical observation? You are obviously not a public health worker, but a pubic health fictionaro.

    Why wash dishes, Liza? Or wash your clothes? Those socks, after a round or two of tennis on a 100 deg day? Why that is pure perfume! And it’s Natcherull. The same goes for female vaginas. Just tell your next paramour before amorous relations that you never wash the nethers. Let us know the results of such revelation. We await eagerly to hear whether he knocked over any furniture whilst bolting for the exit.

    Just because dogs eat poop, does not mean we have to follow. I think of you and those like you as the Walking Brain Dead.

  231. @annamaria

    I have not found even a speckle to disagree with you. But it is your 基础 of your opinions-backed up and supported-that create credibility. You are obviously a learned person.

    The weak-minded, bought off, and flotsam/jetsam (not sures) of today’s humanity are like a foul tide.

  232. @AaronB

    /America fought wars …/

    Can’t help yourself with the compulsion to deflect, can you?

    I wrote about what Israel receives in terms of American financial, materiel, political assistance and you jerk your knee with more irrelevancies about the wars to which America was dragged, as if this has anything to do with the price of tea in China.

    /this absurd charge that the miniscule aid Israel receives comparatively is the largest/

    How shocking that a zionist would speak thusly:

    https://ifamericansknew.org/stat/cost.html

    Yet, Israel receives more of America’s foreign aid budget than any other nation. The US has, in fact, given more aid to Israel than it has to all the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean combined—which have a total population of over a billion people.[5]

    /Arab countries keep the peace because they have no wish to be destroyed in war again/

    嗯,这是 true, which doesn’t mean they don’t consider the generous compensation for avoiding war.

    America’s zionist-led ultimatum against these countries is explicit: keep the peace with Israel or else. Saddam and Qaddafi are textbook examples of what happens to Arab leaders who won’t toe the zionist line.

    /I thought we both agreed …/

    Projecting your thoughts appears to be one of your favorite pastimes here. It probably amuses you, but these things often have a funny way of turning against you, particularly when they’re so transparent.

    /Jews seem to be doing do/

    犹太人 利用 law in order to advance the zionist agenda; hence, laws criminalizing historical revisionism in Europe and laws seeking to chill freedom of expression in America.

    /it’s false to portray this as a Jewish led effort/

    废话多了。

    Jews are unequivocally at the forefront of the effort to criminalize the BDS movement. They are doubtlessly at the forefront of legislation making historical revisionism a criminal offense in Europe. And, unquestionably, they are at the forefront of the effort to redefine “anti-Semitism” in such a way as to make legitimate criticism of Israel a criminal offense.

    /But this is not a case of Jews imposing their values on Americans through coercion, but rather an attempt to ride an already existing wave./

    所有的 party riding that wave — including Muslims — is led by Jews, and there is no endeavor spearheaded among any other interest group that is comparable in scope and degree either to the anti-BDS effort or the effort to maintain criminal laws against historical revisionism in Europe.

    没有。

    /Muslims, however …/

    Stick to the subject, Aaron.

    我们正在讨论 犹太 efforts to criminalize speech in America and Europe. What a handful of Arab extremists has done here and there pales in comparison to the juggernaut of Jewish power barreling down on the foundation stones of civil society in the west.

    If you want to discuss what Islam — rather than millennial world Muslims — says about liberty, that’s a different topic for another venue. Here, however, we’re discussing the corruption 犹太人 are perpetrating as we speak.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  233. Liza 说:
    @Auyamsar8

    The speed and lesser trauma of Brit Milah also perhaps biases people to thinking the procedure is commonly like this. Given how they’re often public affairs and how quickly and efficiently they’re done, it really can seem like “just a little snip.

    The “lesser trauma” argument is based on the idea that a surgery hurts like hell only for the period when the knife is in contact with flesh.

    Supposed your finger tip gets sliced off right thru the nail, quickly, in an accident. When does the suffering stop? You will be given pain killers for as long as necessary. Babies don’t get this when an equally sensitive body part is cut off. How many times does a newborn piss per day? Imagine that hot acidic liquid contacting the newly skinned glans, day in an day out in what seems forever to an infant who can’t understand what’s going on.

    A just-circumcised baby penis looks like raw bloody liver, but Mom ‘n’ Dad don’t think twice about it. Morons, all of them. Fkg morons. We have the English to thank for the nonreligious version of this sick practice, starting with the “royal” family.

    • 回复: @Auyamsar8
  234. @AaronB

    I remember Franklin Ryckaert from the Darkmoon site where he used to hang out. He is of that ilk that is not going to listen to reasoning. He is I must admit not the dumbest of them but making effort to change his opinion through reason and sharing knowledge is not going to work. Trust me.

    I debunked a bunch of fake quotes these people think are from the Talmud in front of him and he keeps on repeating them. You are wasting time in vain.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  235. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    wrote about what Israel receives in terms of American financial, materiel, political assistance and you jerk your knee with more irrelevancies about the wars to which America was dragged, as if this has anything to do with the price of tea in China.

    So you don’t think the price America paid in blood for Europe and Asia should be part of the total assessment of who America helps the most?

    好吧。

    Plus, that was only part of my point. America keeps large garrisons in these places at vast expense and risks the lives of its soldiers for Europe and Asia.

    今天。

    As to the topic of free speech in America. I disagree with you about the severity and influence of Jews in this movement.

    I see it as primarily a classic Enlightenment development that some Jews are bandwaggoning on to benefit Jewish causes. And I think they are wrong to do do.

    I think Muslims would be much worse if they had similar power, and that Muslim violence on this reflects a much harsher mindset.

    Honestly, I am only mentioning Muslims because you made the explicit comparison – I would be perfectly happy to limit the discussion entire to Jewish behavior on this.

    Since you felt compelled to make an explicit comparison to Muslims here, I can only view as a case of guilty conscience – everyone knows this area is one Muslims are particularly weak on, yet you chose precisely this to draw a comparison with Jews.

    Its that weird projection again.

    But I’m happy to leave Muslims out of this and focus only in Jewish bad behavior here.

    And on that, I have made my position clear.

    • 回复: @AnonStarter
  236. @Robjil

    Strange line of reasoning.

    The Jews do not run and own the US which is a satanic state. The Freemasons do. There has not been one Jewish president in the US. The national personification of the US is Uncle Sam who is no one else but Satan in disguise and somehow the Jews are to blame for what the US does?

    You might be surprised to know that Uncle Sam stands for Angel Samael. The US is the Promised Land for satanic cults of all kinds. The Freemasons who run it are all Satanists. And of course some Jews are among them but most of them are not Jews.

    The folklore that I quoted was not studied “at the top” but was created there. For those who were at the bottom. And the Jews were at the bottom too. The Jews had to exist in that atmosphere of hate for centuries. So now it is kind of stupid to expect them to be grateful for that.

    • 回复: @Robjil
  237. AaronB 说:
    @The Dark Night

    谢谢你的提醒。

    That describes most commenters here. No one here is open to reason.

    Rather, you use points raised by irrational commenters in order to write for the invisible audience – the 99% of visitors to this site who don’t comment.

    From that point of view, even the stupidest, most irrational commenter here may serve a useful purpose. Evil gets turned to good despite itself.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
    , @annamaria
  238. @The Dark Night

    If you were to find the glasses, which is forever forbidden for you upon pain of becoming nothing, you would see that Jews are as alien to any other people on earth as Martians, no matter the disguise. In the meantime listen to Maurice Samuel, Weizmann’s Ghost Writer and anti-Semitic provocateur when he says, in “You Gentiles”: “We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you do will meet our needs and demands. We will for ever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build. Beyond all temporary alliances with this or that faction lies the ultimate split in nature and destiny, the enmity between the Game and God. But those of us who fail to understand that truth will always be found in alliance with your rebellious factions, until disillusionment comes. The wretched fate which scattered us through your midst has thrust this unwelcome rôle upon us.”

    • 回复: @Poco
    , @The Dark Night
  239. @Anonymous

    ‘Yes, we are very bad. You innocent Jews should stay as far away from us as possible. You should probably warn your schwarze brothers to stay away too, for their own protection. For that matter, I’m not sure why you ever wanted to live with us in the first place, nor why you encouraged so many innocent brown peoples to move here too…

    Well, actually, Jews were pretty much on Team Islam until about 1700 — when it became obvious Christendom was pulling ahead.

    Then they — Aaron’s latest convolution not withstanding — decided they were our best buddies. ‘Judeo-Christian’ heritage and all that. Them and us — standing four-square against those nasty Muslims.

    去的身影。

    • 同意: annamaria
    • 回复: @PorkTastic
  240. @AaronB

    ‘Someone has a guilty conscience, it seems to me.’

    God that’s lame.

  241. Auyamsar8 说:
    @Liza

    [太多的脱位包皮环切废话。]

  242. @AaronB

    /So you don’t think the price America paid in blood for Europe and Asia should be part of the total assessment of who America helps the most?/

    The comparison between America’s past wars of hegemony to the financial, materiel, and political assistance it provides directly and indirectly to Israel is an apples-and-oranges analogy. Even if we were to assert that countries in Europe and Asia derived benefit from America’s wars there, this has nothing to do with the fact that the current assistance Israel receives from America is far greater than that received by any other nation on earth.

    /America keeps large garrisons in these places/

    To quote Buchanan, “Congress is Israeli-occupied territory.” And the executive?

    请 …

    Were it bad for Israel, I’m certain America would have ditched those bases yesterday, but after successfully committing America to two world wars and a Mesopotamian quagmire, zionists are likely more than a bit reluctant to sacrifice the kind of advantage they might derive from such a comprehensively stationed proxy army.

    /Honestly, I am only mentioning Muslims because you made the explicit comparison/

    I referenced Muslims who join Jews in seeking to legislate “hate-speech.” You then introduced the subject of Islam and what you imagine to be its disposition toward free expression, not me. In response, I entertained the topic briefly, only to correct the inaccuracies you presented. You then used the occasion to engage in an extended 图夸克 criticism of Islam, which you’ve continued to advance to this very moment.

    /Its that weird projection again./

    的确。

    When you make attributions, Aaron, take care not to be sloppy. I’m well aware of what I say.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  243. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    Ok, so Muslim efforts to limit free speech are Jewish-led 🙂

    Apparently only Jews have agency in today’s world.

    I don’t hate Muslims or whites, but you guys will not get better until you ditch the loser mentality. Blaming outsiders for internal problems is an endemic vice of the Muslim world, and the loser half of the white world.

  244. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    You don’t know how the Ashkenazis were created? Polish Kings invited in 25000 Jews into Poland. This 2500 grew to many millions by the 19th century. They were the Elite as merchants,money lenders, and liquor sellers. They kept to themselves,no ghettos. Intermarried only with their group for centuries. This bottleneck makes most Ashkenazis third or fourth cousins of each other.

    In the Polish- Lithuanian federation in the 1500s-1600s it was a Jewish Paradise, a Purgatory for Gentile Nobles and a Hell for Gentile peasants.

    https://www.polin.pl/en/wystawy-wystawa-glowna-galerie/paradisus-iudaeorum

    1569 年,波兰-立陶宛联邦成立,由波兰王国和立陶宛大公国组成。 在这个强大的、种族和宗教多元化的国家中,犹太社区的人数越来越多,其文化也蓬勃发展。 这是波兰犹太人历史上的黄金时代,从 XNUMX 世纪持续到 XNUMX 世纪上半叶。

    在此期间,犹太人享有高度自治:他们有自己的自治政府,包括四地委员会(Vaad Arba Aratsot)——这是欧洲独一无二的现象。 与其他国家不同,他们没有经历过大规模的宗教迫害。 相反——他们可以发展自己的学习,印刷书籍,有时甚至与基督教知识分子辩论。 正是在这个时候,犹太宗教法的著名权威生活和写作。 在克拉科夫附近的 Kazimierz 镇,在一个有影响力的犹太社区的中心,著名的拉比和思想家摩西·伊瑟莱斯,被称为 Remuh,写了 Mappah,这是一本针对德系犹太人的习俗和宗教戒律的集合。 XNUMX 世纪下半叶带来了另一个变化:在贵族的鼓励下,犹太人开始在该国东部的广阔贵族庄园(latifundia)定居。 他们从事新的活动:出租旅馆、磨坊和啤酒厂,买卖谷物和牲畜。

    In 1764, the Russian Empire took over the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The Russians were shocked how the Ashkenazi Elites treated the peasants. To protect the Russian peasants, Ashkenazis were not allowed to settle in the Russian Empire. They must stay in this huge area of about 300000 square miles of the former Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. It was called the Pale of Settlement for the Ashkenazis. The Ashkenazis continued what they always did in the old Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The Ashkenazis grew in such large numbers that they also settled in large numbers in Hungary and Romania, outside the Russian Empire.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  245. Liza 说:

    Poupon:

    Just tell your next paramour before amorous relations that you never wash the nethers.

    I am a late middle aged married woman, so there will not be any paramours. The old man and I do wash ourselves occasionally. 🙂

  246. PorkTastic 说:
    @Colin Wright

    LOL 按钮已使用。

    尽管如此,与那个自认是特内里费岛或新避税天堂现在已经存在的任何地方的自鸣得意的银行家的“Lot”角色相比,这种刻薄的​​行为并没有那么令人恼火。 如果没记错的话,他提到住在开曼群岛,所以这确实体现了他肆无忌惮的傲慢。 他称自己为主流,而我认为他想延续这些对以色列的主流(((保守)))立场

  247. @AaronB

    那是个很好的观点。

    But this works if your comment is among the first 20 or so because people who are not engaged in the talk are not going to scroll and read all the rest of them. This tactic is good on small sites such as the aforementioned Darkmoon, but here – I don’t think it makes sense.

    Emotions rule. I found that mirroring works best. Right now I am in the middle of a polemic on that site about whether or not Jews still sacrifice children, and at the same time negating allegations that Jews murdered 60 million Russian Christians. Because Solzhenitsin said so. No one can point out where he said that but all of them are sure that I am a liar since I’m telling them he said something else. None of them has read Solzhenitsin. So this is not working either.

    But here is what is interesting: when I am told about the terrible Talmud I post quotations from the Hammer of Witches, and if I’m told about Toaff I send them to the Order of Nine Angels website. This seems to make them start thinking or at least shut up.

    You can’t break through their defences because reason has no business here. Use a mirror.

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  248. @AaronB

    Name a single Muslim effort to criminalize free speech in the west that is as extensive and effective as that of the Jews.

    And you want to talk projection? “Blaming outsiders for internal problems” is a vice endemic to many people.

    But none have perfected it to a science quite like your own.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  249. @Robjil

    The point being what? Lecturing me?

    I know all about that. I was born and raised in Ukraine and I am a Halachic Jew and know the history of the Jews just as well as the Russian history. You are completely wrong regarding both.

    Yiddish was and is a dialect of German and Ashkenazi Jews speak or used to speak Yiddish which shows where they are from. Doesn’t it?

    The Russians were not shocked about how the Ashkenazi treated the peasants because no one treated the peasants worse than the Russians. Heard about serfdom? The Russians owned their peasants. So – please, comrade. You don’t know nothing yet.

    学习!

    • 回复: @annamaria
    , @Robjil
    , @ploni almoni
  250. @ploni almoni

    Then I suppose you should be really scared now. I think you need to hide somewhere. In a cave or something.

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
  251. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    What internal dysfunctions or problems do Jews blame outsiders on?

    We are too arrogant and proud for that – and at at the same time, too humble. We accuse others of crimes against us, yes, but our internal dysfunctions we have always considered a result of our own sins, our own apostasy.

    Heck, we even believe that the atrocities others commit against us and the misfortunes we suffer are really God punishing us for our own sins.

    This self-critical attitude is a long tradition with us and has spared us many ills. We could not have survived without it.

    As a genuine piece of friendly advice from someone who truly does not hate Muslims, the best thing you can do is develop a self-critical attitude. It takes spiritual discipline and unsparing self analysis – but I think the best traditions of the Muslim world are up to the task.

    • 回复: @AnonStarter
    , @Colin Wright
  252. annamaria 说:
    @AaronB

    “No one here is open to reason.”

    — Your beliefs in the myths of Eretz Israel (which you use to rationalize the zionists’ crimes) and your fact-free riding on your alleged super-morality do not indeed provide a scintilla of reason but propaganda. In short, from Freud to Bernays, with Trotsky and Zhabotinsky in the middle.

  253. @AaronB

    /What internal dysfunctions or problems do Jews blame outsiders on?/

    We were discussing the effort to make criminals out of goyim for their legitimate, non-violent effort to forestall Israeli criminality or advance critical analysis of history. Zionists’ inability to acknowledge their inhumane treatment of Palestinians is the very definition of “internal dysfunction.” Of course, to you, it’s a measure of success that your people rationalize such treatment as “necessary,” dismissing the rest of the world’s opinion with a wave of the hand. What’s cognitive dissonance to most is merely par for the course in today’s Israel.

    Please spare me the condescending crap. I already know more about Jewish and Islamic tradition than you care to imagine and I don’t need to be informed by you of the need for self-discipline.

    You have a bad habit of transforming otherwise good counsel into patronizing pabulum given the context in which you present it. Had you the “unsparing self-analysis” you wish to see in everyone else, you wouldn’t have bothered to say a word here.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  254. annamaria 说:
    @AaronB

    Thank you for reminding about the Jewish Lobby’s pernicious attacks on the freedom of speech and freedom of information:

    “At stake is our First Amendment right to protest state policies:” http://bostonreview.net/law-justice/radhika-sainath-right-boycott

    “Texas city refuses to give people hurricane aid unless they pledge not to boycott Israel:” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-hurricane-aid-dickinson-israel-boycott-pledge-harvey-financial-help-free-speech-a8011141.html

    MOST BANNED BOOK IN THE WORLD: “200 YEARS TOGETHER RUSSIAN-JEWISH HISTORY – ALEXSANDR SOLZHENITSYN:” https://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/

    Two Hundred Years Together was written by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the famous Russian dissident who won a Nobel Prize for Literature. It is about the time of the Russians and the Jews inside the empire. He wrote in Russian of course but various publishers decided they were not going to put out an English version because they were Jews or frightened of them.

    CSZ 一起 of the title refers to Russians and Jews. The first volume was Russian-Jewish History 1795-1916. The second was called The Jews in the Soviet Union. So it is clear enough why the Jews were never going to like what he had to say.

    Pressure from extremely powerful Zionist sources, as you have already figured out by the title, has kept this valuable work from reaching readers in the West. It details, with great precision, the Jewish involvement in the creation of Bolshevism and communism and the willing participation of Jews in perpetuating the worst mass murders of the 20th century—crimes which dwarf claims about the so-called “holocaust.”

    The number of innocent Christian Russians who died at the hands of the Soviets is mind-boggling. Solzhenitsyn himself estimated the toll at 60million. Many Jews, it must be added, were also crushed under the Soviet steamroller in later years, after Josef Stalin began to diminish their involvement in political and military affairs.

    Learn your history, AaronB. And don’t forget to check a story of the Gates of Toledo:

    In the spring of 711, a Muslim army invaded Iberia led by Tariq ibn Ziyad… Both Latin and Arabic chroniclers record that the Jews of the city “opened the gates of Toledo” to Tariq, who conquered the city. With more cities to take Tariq left Toledo and entrusted its protection to a garrison of Jewish soldiers, whom had rose up against the Catholic Visigoths and opened the gates.

    当塔里克的主人穆萨·伊本·努赛尔(Musa ibn Nusayr)带着一支庞大的阿拉伯军队抵达伊比利亚时,他占领了塞维利亚,并像他之前的塔里克一样,将这座城市托付给了犹太居民,直到他回来。

  255. annamaria 说:
    @The Dark Night

    Your problem is, the most authoritative documentary (DOCUMENTARY) on the history of Jews in Russia has been strongly unwelcomed by the Jewish Lobby. Not is a single publishing house in the US/UK dared to publish the work of the famous Russian dissident who won a Nobel Prize for Literature. But the presstitute Anne Appelbaum (a faux historian about GULAG and propagandist for Integrity Initiative) was welcomed. https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-integrity-initiative-and-the-uks-scandalous-information-war/253014/

    This “network of networks”, as one document refers to them, centers around an ironically named outfit called the Integrity Initiative. …

    The whole operation appears to be run by, and in conjunction with, members of British military intelligence.

    When your thugs at the ADL (created for the protection of a rapist and pedophile) and similar “selectors of truth” stop harassing honest researchers in WWII and Bolshevik revolution, then you could quetch about “allegations.” Before that, continue enjoying your fanatical “democrat” Sharansky (a darling of Bush the lesser) and the progeny of the worst among the worst Soviet criminals, which have been gracing Israel with their presence.

    Even after Epstein-Wexner saga unraveling, the “loyalists” continue insisting on superior Jewish morality and incomparable Jewish victimhood. The reason has no business here indeed.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  256. annamaria 说:
    @The Dark Night

    “So – please, comrade. You don’t know nothing yet. Learn!”

    — Since you were was born and raised in Ukraine, could you enlighten the readers about Lazar Kaganovich, the First Secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine during Holodomor?
    His nickname was “The Wolf Kremlin,” and he was considered to be the closest comrade of and possible successor to Stalin.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  257. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    We were discussing the effort to make criminals out of goyim for their legitimate, non-violent effort to forestall Israeli criminality or advance critical analysis of history.

    Ok, but that would an example of wrongly attacking outsiders, if true.

    If we blamed critics of Israel for making us treat Palestinians bad, through mind control or irresistible influence or something, that would be an example of blaming outsiders for our own dysfunctions.

    明白我在说什么吗?

    Maybe, according to you, we attack people who criticize us or whatever. But if we started blaming them for what we did, and claimed we are helplessly mind controlled by them, that would be pretty pathetic, no?

    • 回复: @AnonStarter
  258. @Poupon Marx

    You made the claim. You back it up, or do you just want to wail in protestation?

    Since you claim you have the data, copy-pasting the links should be easy.

  259. @Skeptikal

    Wikipedia is easily edited. Present links to original research.

    It amazes me how many make an assertion that they will not back up with evidence, then howl in outrage when they’re called on their BS.

    Stop with the pilpul, and give us data. That’s all we’re asking.

  260. @AaronB

    ‘…This self-critical attitude is a long tradition with us and has spared us many ills. We could not have survived without it…’

    It’s somewhat surreal that this claim is made on behalf of a people that overwhelmingly continues to support Israel.

    Yep, real self-critical. Able to look honestly at their crime and admit it. If the Germans were like this, we’d still be hearing about how the gas chambers were actually for delousing clothing, and after all, the Jews deserved it.

    …and if you are going to announce you do criticize Israel, don’t just vaguely generalize. This time, let’s hear exactly what your criticisms are. Specify which massacres you think were crimes, when Jews should not be allowed to drive Palestinians from their homes, what agreements Israel really did break, which of her wars were unjustified, etc.

    Or, shall we hear ‘The Sound of Silence’ again? Redirect, perchance?

  261. @AaronB

    ‘…To claim that the sources for this subversion lie deep within Jewish tradition and culture going back thousands of years is absurd…’

    Why would it be absurd? You endlessly refer to some (endlessly undefined) spiritual profundity and virtue inherent in Judaism.

    If virtue can be inherent in it, why not vice? After all, lately you’ve been gargling about the evil inherent in the West. Absurd as well — but if we grant the possibility that this isn’t nonsense, surely a similar vileness could dwell within Judaism.

  262. @AaronB

    /See what I’m saying?/

    Yes, and, with all due respect, it’s one of the most inane arguments I’ve ever beheld.

    Relegating criticism of zionism to psychological projection is, just as Colin so accurately described it, quite lame. Who here is claiming, or even implying, that the responsibility for his action rests entirely upon zionists? Nobody.

    All I’ve done is to describe a political landscape in which zionists have advanced legislation that criminalizes expression challenging to their agenda. You haven’t been able to provide a single example of any interest group in the western milieu that has had as extensive and corrosive an influence in this regard as Jews. Not one.

    You think I don’t know that the Arabs and their followers have largely succeeded Jews into the fire, just as the Prophet said they would? You want to know which of them has greater influence over American government? Do a search for “Qualitative Military Edge” and you’ve got your answer.

    Look, Aaron … You were on the right track when you admitted that the endeavor to criminalize expression challenging the zionist agenda was wrong-headed. Why you had to go any further is beyond me, but to the extent you do so, you’re merely digging a deeper hole for yourself.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  263. anonymous[348]• 免责声明 说:
    @Franz

    the destructive “father” of Judaism himself, Abraham,

    When you ridicule Abraham(pbuh), even in the context of that pagan “in-his-image” mangod-worshipping faith called Judaism, you ridicule Islam.

    Abraham(pbuh) was 不能 the “father” of Judaism, at least as we know it now. He was simply a continuation of a long line of true monotheist prophets sent by the Almighty One to guide us common ingrates, the rest of mankind.

    And, neither was Jesus(pbuh) the “father” of that pagan “in-his-image” faith called Christianity. He too was a blessed true monotheist prophet of the Almighty One.

    They have certainly disbelieved who say, “Allah [God] is the Messiah, the son of Mary” while the Messiah has said, “O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Indeed, he who associates others with Allah – Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers. : Holy Quran 5:72

    Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, peace be upon them all, have nothing to do with, and will utterly reject, those who have twisted their true monotheist teachings into whatever pagan mangods-worshipping delusions which abound in their blessed names.

    And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?’” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. : Holy Quran 5:116

    rich trove of criminality in the “idol smashing”

    Criminality? Lol!

    Having utter contempt and smashing such symbols of paganism, that which will condemn those unfortunate souls who practise it, is criminality? You are an idol sympathising godless fool.

    giggles his way out into the world to start “monotheism”.

    Abraham(pbuh) did not “start” monotheism. It was brought forth by Adam(pbuh).

    • 回复: @AnonStarter
  264. @Liza

    Thank you Liza for your response to my comment.

    My assertion that women vastly prefer circumcised to uncircumcised was based on just personal experience with a small sample with N ~ 25. Because of your comment I decided to check to see if my experience was typical. I found that it was.

    In a survey of undergraduate women at Georgia College, Milledgeville, Georgia, on viewing color magazine photographs of men with “well-formed body parts,” 89% preferred the circumcised penis and 11% preferred the uncircumcised penis.16

    In a study of well-educated new mothers at a major Midwest medical center, 16.5% of whom had sexual contact with both circumcised and uncircumcised men, 92% believed the circumcised penis stays cleaner, 90% said it looked “sexier,” 85% said it felt nicer to touch, and 55% said that it “smells more pleasant.”17 Preferences for vaginal intercourse were circumcised, 71%; uncircumcised, 6%; and either, 23%; for fellatio, 83%, 2%, and 15%, respectively; for manual stimulation, 75%, 5%, and 20%, respectively; and looking at nude to achieve sexual arousal, 76%, 4%, and 20%, respectively. Of the 5.5% of women who had only ever had uncircumcised partners, all preferred the look of the circumcised penis. The authors concluded that “almost any sexual exposure to a circumcised penis swayed women to sexually prefer circumcision, with only 1% of the entire sample consistently preferring uncircumcised partners for all sexual activities,” all of whom were from the group who had only ever had sexual experience with uncircumcised men. No woman thought that an uncircumcised penis looked sexier.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6523040/

    Of course the “personal experience” that I assert above does not mean my personal experience but rather that of a friend. I chose the expression “personal experience” to show that it was anecdotal only and not a scientific survey.

    • 回复: @9/11 Inside job
  265. @annamaria

    How is this my problem, sweetheart?

    I read Two Hundred Years Together in Russian. I’ve no idea what is the documentary you’re talking about but I’m sure you can publish pretty much anything on the Internet. I also see no reason to complain about the publishing houses. You can establish your own and publish whatever you want. As far as I know, there is no censorship in the US, and you can also sell whatever you want on your own website. So, whose problem is it?

    Hire a translator, sweetheart, an editor and publish that book. You can self-publish it. And if it is in such a great demand, you can even make some money. Why don’t you? No one owes you anything, you have to take care of yourself and your needs. That’s the way life is.

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
    , @annamaria
  266. @annamaria

    No, it’s boring. Let’s better talk about something less popular. For example a famine in the UK during the same time or the Great Depression in the US. Look how interesting this is:

    “In some towns and cities in the north east, unemployment reached as high as 70% as shipbuilding fell by 90%. The National Hunger March of September–October 1932 was the largest of a series of hunger marches in Britain in the 1920s and 1930s. About 200,000 unemployed men were sent to the work camps, which continued in operation until 1939.”

    • 回复: @annamaria
  267. Alfred 说:
    @Liza

    我同意。

    I imagine that being born and having to twist through the mother’s vagina must be pretty painful and extremely stressful. Lots of babies cannot make it and the lives of both mother and child are in danger unless a surgeon intervenes.

  268. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    Ashkenazis came into Poland with the invitation of Polish Kings. Ashkenazis speak Yiddish because they came into Poland from western Europe.

    It was only 25000 Jews who came in, they grew in many millions because the Elite status that Ashkenazis had in Poland since 1025.

    The Polish Kingdom included Ukraine for many centuries. So that is why many people have Ashkenazi genes like you do in Ukraine.

    In 1569, Polish joined with Lithuania to create the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.

    Thus, the Ashkenazis had a huge area to expand – Poland, Belorussia, Ukraine and the Baltics. parts of Romania. They also settled in Hungary.

    Ashkenazis are thought to come from the Rhineland so that is why they speak a Germanic language, Yiddish.

    You say you are Halachic Jewish, then you are Italian. It has been found that most Ashkenazi Jews’s maternal side is from European DNA, mostly from the Italian Peninsula.

    I know about serfdom in Russia. It was created to protect the peasants from Tartar raids. The word slave comes the word Slav. Crimean Tartars were the main Slav slave raiders and sellers of Slav slaves.

    http://serfdominrussia.blogspot.com/

    In the 13th to 15th centuries, feudal dependency applied to a significant number of peasants, but serfdom as we know it was still not a widespread phenomenon. In the mid-15th century the right of certain categories of peasants in some votchinas to leave their master was limited to a period of one week before and after the so-called Yuri’s Day (November 26). TheSudebnik of 1497 officially confirmed this time limit as universal for everybody and also established the amount of the “break-away” fee called pozhiloye (пожилое). The legal code ofIvan III of Russia, Sudebnik (1497), strengthened the dependency of peasants, statewide, and restricted their mobility. The Russians persistently battled against the successor states of the Golden Horde, chiefly the Khanate of Crimea. Annually the Russian population of the borderland suffered from Tatar invasions and tens of thousands of noblemen protected the southern borderland (a heavy burden for the state), which slowed its social and economic development and expanded the taxation of peasantry.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  269. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Data yourself (where applicable) If you have any to the contrary.

    • 回复: @Kolya Krassotkin
  270. @The Dark Night

    “Whom are you mocking? At whom do you snarl and stick out your tongue? Are you not children of transgression, offspring of deceit?” Isaiah 57:4.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  271. @The Dark Night

    You convict yourself out of your own mouth and you cannot help it.

  272. @The Dark Night

    Well, Kaganovich, you speak English, I would assume that means you come from England. But doesn’t Ashkenazi mean Scythian? Does not that mean you come from inner Asia? And is not Kagan a Turkic title? Did not the Ashkenazis learn broken German mixed with Slavic from the Teutonic Knights in the Baltics? Were not the Ashkenazis hired by the Poles and Lithuanians as mercenaries to collect taxes from the peasants on behalf of the nobles?

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  273. K. W. 说:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Fascinating article, Laurent. Are you familiar with Lloyd DeMause’s and Alice Miller’s work on the treatment of children throughout history (a discipline he called “psychohistory”–having nothing to do with Asimov’s concept). His thesis is that childrearing patterns have evolved throughout history through seven different stages, from overt infanticide, to abandonment, to intrusive and harsh but at least attentive, to rigid socialization with a veneer of love, finally to genuine love and “peaceful parenting”; of course, some population groups would have had better parenting styles on average than others, though until perhaps the 1700s there was little mention of love or kindness towards children anywhere. Unfortunately, he does not even theorize as to the origins of the most violent parenting styles, but perhaps there was some cosmic trauma in prehistory that caused it (yahweh at work?), or perhaps just the rigors of infant mortality and economic difficulties… Would love to know your thoughts on this body of work!

    Stefan Molyneux has done a great job popularizing his information, and you could possibly even get on Molyneux’s show (he seems to be aware of the JQ, though much of his audience is still languishing in ignorance of it). He published some of DeMause’s books in ebook and audiobook form on his Freedomain Radio site.

    • 回复: @Laurent Guyénot
  274. @Colin Wright

    Lysenko vindicated! We’re back on the right track — or something.

    Lysenkoism – like its ancestor, Marxism, and like Freudian and behaviorist psychology – bases itself on the theory that “conditions create consciousness,” that nothing is immutably innate, and that an organism is nothing more or less than the sum of its experiences. Lysenko, under the patronage of Stalin, went a step farther, holding that acquired characteristics could be inherited. This suited the ideology of his patron, who wanted to create “New Soviet Man,” his version of a “master race,” but one created not by nature but by nurture.

    There could be no more amusing rebuttal of Lysenko’s claim than to observe that that Jews have been circumcising their male infants for more than 3,000 years, yet every one of them to this day stubbornly continues to be born with a prepuce.

  275. AaronB 说:
    @AnonStarter

    You think I don’t know that the Arabs and their followers have largely succeeded Jews into the fire, just as the Prophet said they would?

    This right here is the fatal attitude that is killing you.

    If you do something, take responsibility for it.

    • 回复: @AnonStarter
  276. @Robjil

    Look, friend.

    There is no such word as “slav”. This is a misspelling of a Slavic word and it has nothing to do with “slave”. You know about that Europen state, Slovenia. This is the most original and authentic Slavic nation. I mean in the anthropological sense. The name Slovenia refers to the name of the people and their language, which comes from the word “slovo” – which means, a word. So the peoples and the tribes who spoke that language were called “slovenins” but as in the Russian language phonetics are a bit different it sounds more like “slavenin”. From here the British created this interpretation and connected it to the English word “slave” which is preposterous, because the Russians had been a nation before the English became one.

    Serfdom was not created to protect, but to exploit. For this reason a lot of peasants preferred to run away and to settle down along the southern border of the Russian Empire, where they wouldn’t be found. These people were called the Cossacks. They protected the borders from the attacks of the Crimean Tatars and the Turks. Learn the real history, comrade. And please stop writing nonsense to me.

    • 回复: @Robjil
    , @Robjil
  277. @ploni almoni

    No, Ashkenaz means the land of Ashkenaz, one of the sons of Noah and it was considered to be located in the North. So the Jews of the Roman Empire settled there and this is why they speak Yiddish Deutsch. A dialect of the German language with about 75% of common linguistic traits. The Slavic words were added later, when most of the Ashkenazis moved to the East, to Poland.

  278. @ploni almoni

    I am not mocking anybody, am I? Nor am I deceiving anyone or transgressing anything. And you are not a prophet to tell me such things.

  279. @anonymous

    /you ridicule Islam/

    And when thou see those who trivialize Our signs, withdraw from them until they trivialize another topic. And if the devil causes you to forget, sit not, after remembering, with the gathering of aggressors. [6: 68]

    /You are an idol sympathising godless fool./

    Nobody is “godless.”

    Revile not those unto whom they pray beside Allah, lest they wrongfully revile Allah through ignorance. Thus unto every nation have We made their deed seem fair. Then unto their Lord is their return, and He will tell them what they used to do. [6: 108]

    Please consider your audience before launching into this kind of reflexive response. This is not in keeping with the 民哈吉 established by our Prophet sallALLAHU ‘alaihi wa sallam.

  280. @Miggle

    ” Every little Jewish child is, before all else, instructed that he or she is a victim of the non-Jews”.

    That reminds me of a local Jewish website I entered shortly after the synogogue shooting, as I thought the local chapter would have a donation link (they didn’t have one – I think i ended up donating at go fund me or one of those sites). Right away i noticed they were having a Competition for the youth; who could write the best paper on the Holocaust. The reward was something like \$400.

    So, victim-hood is encouraged, as well as inflaming the youth with rage. I find this very sad. It’s important not to forget history, but to encourage hate is altogether something else. Same chapter had information on how to help illegal immigrants and refugees.

    Of course, I don’t believe for a minute that Jews have a monopoly on psychological problems and sexual abuse history; seems those conditions are prevalent in all groups.

  281. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    The word slave comes from the word Slav.

    https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/360669/etymology-of-the-word-slave/360673#360673

    This etymology seems fairly certain. Per the OED, the words Slav and slave comes from the Medieval Latin sclavus (c. 800CE), itself from the late Greek Σκλαβος (c. 580CE). According to the OED, documents of the ninth century attest to the attribution of word to the subjugated peoples of central Europe.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  282. @AaronB

    /This right here is the fatal attitude that is killing you./

    You mistake acknowledgement of an observable phenomenon for fatalism. It doesn’t follow from such acknowledgement that I myself manifest the phenomenon.

    /If you do something, take responsibility for it./

    Again with the condescending attitude.

    What makes you think I don’t already take responsibility for what I do?

  283. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    I know about the Cossacks, they were created to protect themselves from being slaves. Landowners protected their peasants from being taken into slavery with serfdom. After Crimea was conquered serfdom should have ended but it continued on till 1861.

    Here is how important the Slav slave trade was to the Ottoman Empire.

    https://historum.com/threads/the-importance-of-crimean-slave-trade-for-ottoman-empire-1475-1774.76254/

    The Crimean slave trade not only affected Russians and Ukrainians, it was also a significant source of other Eastern European slaves, Poles, Caucasians, even some thousands of Hungarians ended up there.
    The most important impact could be economic. the pençik (one fifth of the booties in military campaigns to the ruler) and more importantly the tax and custom duties on the slaves..
    Inalcik’s An Economic and Social History of the Ottoman Empire, vol 1. has a chapter on the Black sea trade and 2-3 pages on slavery. From there (p 283-85), in 1520 the revenue of the Ottoman treasury was 1,310,000 akçe (=21,000 gold ducats) from slave taxes and custom duties from the Crimean ports. (for totals of Ottoman state revenues i posted some tables in this thread: http://historum.com/war-military-history/72973-why-did-serb-bosnian-army-lose-battle-kosovo-2.html post #17, source from the same book). in 1577-78 slave tax made up 29% of the total revenues of the Ottoman Empire’s possessions in Crimea. in the above mentioned book the author estimates the annual slave population imported from Poland, Muscovy and Circassia together could be over 10,000 in the period of 1500-1650 on average.

    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  284. @acementhead

    “Male circumcision needs to be seen as unnecessary and barbaric – just like female genital
    mutilation …Defenders of male circumcision sometimes try to justify the practice by citing health benefits …But no national medical society in the World recommends routine circumcision of boys as a
    health intervention ,,,the current medical literature purporting to show the health benefits of circumcision has been generated by doctors who have cultural , financial or other interests in seeing the practice continued .” An oped by Stephen Evans writing in the Independent (UK).
    The National Health Service in the UK no longer pay s for a routine circumcision to be performed .
    If the women surveyed at Georgia College had learned during their lives that male circumcision was barbaric and had no health benefits I believe that their responses to the study would have been completely different .

  285. annamaria 说:
    @The Dark Night

    Mister, you are mocking yo0urself.

    As for your cavalier (and dishonest) statement, “You can establish your own and publish whatever you want,” here is an article explaining, with the facts at hand, the zionists assault on the freedom of information and on the First Amendment: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    These days, my morning newspapers seem to carry Holocaust-related stories with astonishing frequency, and probably no event of the twentieth century looms so large in our public consciousness. According to public survey data, even as far back as 1995, some 97% of Americans knew of the Holocaust, far more than were aware of the Pearl Harbor attack or America’s use of the atomic bombs against Japan, while less than half our citizenry were aware that the Soviet Union had been our wartime ally. But I’d suspect that anyone who drew his knowledge from the mainstream newspapers and history books during the first couple of decades after the end of the Second World War might never have even been aware that any Holocaust had actually occurred …

    Meanwhile, all historians know perfectly well that the Bolshevik leaders were overwhelmingly Jewish, with three of the five revolutionaries Lenin named as his plausible successors coming from that background. Although only around 4% of Russia’s population was Jewish, a few years ago Vladimir Putin stated that Jews constituted perhaps 80-85% of the early Soviet government, an estimate fully consistent with the contemporaneous claims of Winston Churchill, Times of London correspondent Robert Wilton, and the officers of American Military Intelligence. … prior to World War II, Jews remained enormously over-represented in the Communist leadership, especially dominating the Gulag administration and the top ranks of the dreaded NKVD.

    这两个简单的事实在我的整个一生中都已被美国广泛接受。 但是,将它们与全球犹太人规模相对较小(在第二次世界大战前大约16万)结合起来,不可避免的结论是,就人均而言,犹太人是XNUMX世纪最伟大的谋杀者,他们以这样的不幸身份加以区分巨大的利润空间,而且没有其他国籍能与之遥不可及。 然而,通过好莱坞惊人的炼金术,过去一百年来最伟大的杀手被某种程度上转变为被视为最大的受害者,这种转变似乎令人难以置信,以至于子孙后代肯定会惊叹不已。

    https://www.unz.com/article/international-campaign-is-criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-as-antisemitism/?highlight=antisemitism

    In a May 2017 speech, World Jewish Congress leader Ronald Lauder said, “Being anti-Israel is being anti-Semitic.” He announced that the congress “is creating a new communications department, or what you might call Hasborah” to counter this new “antisemitism.”

    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/alain-soral-sentenced-to-2-years-jail-for-sharing-gilets-jaunes-anti-rothschild-rap-video/?highlight=Irving+criticism+of+israel

    • 同意: Robjil
    • 回复: @The Dark Night
  286. annamaria 说:
    @The Dark Night

    Don’t zionists love quetching about antisemitism in Russia? If Holodomor was no big deal, then it is time for zi0nists to stop peddling the profitable holobiz stories of incomparable sufferings.

  287. Theodore 说:
    @acementhead

    None are so blind as those who refuse to see…

    Imagine being kicked out of 1,000 different Walmarts, claiming innocence and faulting the management every time. Wouldn’t you call someone like that mentally ill?

    从历史上超过1,000个地方驱逐的犹太驱逐者/犹太人的完整列表
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12596

  288. CBTerry 说:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    我太忙了,没有时间关注这些评论,如果这些关于婴儿包皮环切术影响的观点已经被提出,请原谅我:

    [更多]

    1) 对儿子:我建议研究一下 Paul Tinari 博士的工作,他对包皮环切术后的新生儿进行了 PET 扫描,发现大脑变化很可能是永久性的。 这项研究是初步的,因为一旦医院得到消息,它就被关闭了。

    2) 致母亲:大多数外邦人(尽管毫无疑问,随着互联网的兴起,这种情况已经发生了变化)对手术过程中实际发生的事情一无所知。 我记得听到一个婴儿大声呼喊他的肺,然后是妇产科医生,激动得满脸通红,告诉微笑的母亲,当她的儿子还在托儿所大哭时,她的包皮环切术进行得如何。

    犹太母亲并非幸福地无知:她们在变成重大仪式的过程中扮演着核心角色。 我相信这在文化上是独一无二的,尽管如果我弄错了,请有人纠正我。 我想知道这对母亲有何影响——当然不难想象她会发展出精神病理学来证明这一点。 一个有趣的读物是 Elissa Strauss 的“我喜欢我儿子的 Bris”(纽约时报,31 年 2013 月 XNUMX 日)。 一些引述:“我真的很喜欢它。 事实上,相当多。” “我们仍然遵守与我们刚出生的儿子有关的牺牲仪式的想法更令人不安。 对于现在大力点头的所有反对割礼的人,好吧,我不能说我真的不同意。 不过,如果我有另一个男孩,我会毫不犹豫地再做一次。”

    • 回复: @Laurent Guyénot
  289. @annamaria

    How is this contradicting the fact which I was talking about? You still can publish books, self-publish a book and sell books without being cencored.

    • 回复: @Robjil
  290. @Robjil

    The Crimean Tatars had been waging wars against Russia for centuries before being conquered, and the prisoners were sold to the Turks. This doesn’t mean that “slav” means “slave”, and thinking like this shows a person with a low IQ.

    • 回复: @Robjil
  291. @Robjil

    No, the word is spelled Slověne (Словѣне), and it referres to a language. This is possible that the English word “slave” was derived from that on account of a lot of Russian prisoners being sold on the slave markets in the Turkish cities, but it doesn’t explain the origins of the word and the name per se. You the Brits are a small people, a not important people and should know that. You place is number 16. Young and inexperienced.

  292. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    Everyone knows this word connection. It is common knowledge.

    https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=41445

    English “slave”:

    From Middle English, from Old French sclave, from Medieval Latin sclāvus (“slave”), from Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”), because Slavs were often forced into slavery in the Middle Ages. The Latin word is from Byzantine Greek Σκλάβος (Sklábos), see that entry and Slav for more.

    Here is a bit about the trade in Prague.

    I was surprised to learn that the volume of trade in slaves from among the Slavic tribes to purchasers in North Africa and the Middle East was so great that it led to the making of many fortunes for the wealthy of Prague around a thousand years ago. The trade was described in the travel account of Ibrahim ibn Yaqub (fl. 961–62; Jakub’s namesake!), a Hispano-Arabic, Sephardi Jewish merchant (?) who is famous for being the first person to mention Prague and its Jewish community in writing.

    Here is the history about the how Slav is connected to the English world slave.

    The derivation of the word slave encapsulates a bit of European history and explains why the two words slave and Slav are so similar; they are, in fact, historically identical.

    It first appeared in English in 1290

    The word slave first appears in English around 1290, spelled sclave. The spelling is based on Old French esclave from Medieval Latin sclavus, “Slav, slave,” first recorded around 800. Sclavus comes from Byzantine Greek sklabos (pronounced sklä′vōs) “Slav,” which appears around 580.

    The word slave is connected to the Slav’s name for themselves,

    Sklavos approximates the Slavs’ own name for themselves, the Slověnci, surviving in English Slovene and Slovenian. The spelling of English slave, closer to its original Slavic form, first appears in English in the 1500s.

    Slavs became slaves beginning in the ninth century.

    Slavs became slaves around the beginning of the ninth century when the Holy Roman Empire tried to stabilize a German-Slav frontier. By the 1100s, stabilization had given way to wars of expansion and extermination that did not end until 1410, when the Poles crushed the knights of the Teutonic Order at Grunwald in north-central Poland.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @The Dark Night
  293. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    Here is the reason that it has not been published in English. It is not flattering to Jews. We live in the Zion Age of Faith. All things “must” be flattering to our rulers in our Zion Age of Faith since 12.23.1913. Someday the world be free of the Zion Age of Faith and that will be a glorious day for humanity. Enough already, we are all humans. All humans deserve respect not only Zionists.

    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/01/08/michael-wolff-publishes-fury-and-fire-while-alexander-solzhenitsyns-200-years-together-is-still-not-published-in-english/

    Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s last book from the year 2004 is still not published in English, but finally it is at least translated, by volunteers of course, and all chapters can be downloaded for free from the web. This book, 200 hundred years together, explains the role of Jewish Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union, especially in the early years. As it is well known for anybody who has searched history, Jews had a major role in communism, there is not so much especially new in this book, but it is a detailed study of the topic. Undoubtedly the book would have sold well enough to warrant publication in English. The reason for not publishing it is that American Jews have claimed that the book is anti-Semitic. I read the most criticized parts and I do not find is anti-Semitic. The book simply tells more or less correct history of certain events, which are not so flattering to Jews. Dark episodes, though maybe not so dark, can be found from the history of most peoples

    .

    • 回复: @tac
    , @The Dark Night
  294. @Alden

    If there was no cash money in the holocaust hoax, you’d be surprised at how quick stress levels and DNA changes would revert back to normal.

  295. tac 说:
    @Robjil

    Not only did Ben Gurion describe succinctly the New World Order that Yahweh’s brood is determined to force upon the world; he also made it clear that the Jews’ Universal Empire has been his hybrid race’s goal for more than twenty-two centuries. That should not be surprising to Christians who have read their holy book while awake and believe in “Bible prophecy.” They may even believe that what destroys all nations that refuse to serve the Jews is their strange god — and, if they accept the Yiddish aphorism, “God is the Jewish People,” they will be right.

    When the New World Order is established, it will be incontrovertible proof that our race is what the Jews say it is, “eine minderwertige Rasse,” an inferior race. (6) It is simply a fact of nature that the only proof of a race’s superiority is its survival and its expansion at the expense of other races. And if the expansion is achieved, not by valor in honest war, but by cowardly intrigues, covert conspiracy, and slimy perfidy, that may be offensive to the Aryans’ idiosyncratic morality, but the real world recognizes only the fact of triumph, no matter how attained. It may be that the mammoths were made indignant by the iniquity and moral turpitude of the mobs of cowardly little savages who trapped and exterminated them, but mammoths nevertheless became forever extinct.

    (6. Cf. Liberty Bell, July 1987, pp. 1-5.)

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/01/the-new-world-order-2/

    http://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/

    http://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/1981/11/the-enemy-of-our-enemies-part-1/

    • 回复: @utu
    , @Robjil
  296. utu 说:
    @Robjil

    There was one Czech historian (Dušan Třeštik) who did some work on slavery who tried to figure out exact economic impact and the scale of it. Prague was one of the main slave trade centers and all glorious early real and legendary Bohemian Kings were involved in it even beyond when Christianity was adopted. The same goes for Polish rulers from Piast dynasty and whoever there was before them. Despite of Papacy edicts against slavery it persisted however certainly Christianity eventually put stop to it and had the civilizing effect by forbidding first the enslavement of Christians which impeded the local rulers from raiding each other for slaves and also promoted the spread of Christianity as being Christina offered some degree of protection.

    A Mass for the Slaves: from Early Medieval Prague
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284284626_A_Mass_for_the_Slaves_from_Early_Medieval_Prague

    Slave Trading in the British Isles and the Czech Lands, 7th-11th Centuries
    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b36b/b5af9ec575e5a3b1cab3954c3514a77ebda5.pdf?_ga=2.14494192.638316134.1570161370-1005358719.1570161370

    The Slave Trade in Great Moravia: Reality or Fiction?
    https://is.muni.cz/el/1421/jaro2015/AEA_16/um/54995610/Instanbul_otroci_ENG.pdf

    Also see on transcontinental Jewish slavers:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radhanite

    Prominent role of Jews in slavery should not be surprising. Jews developed the know-how of slavery business long before Europeans entered it in 16 century on the Western African route. Jews unlike Brits, Dutch and Spaniard had a long history being involved in slavery, at leasts as far back as early Middle Ages. The Jewish slavers travelled throughout Europe buying slaves to be delivered to Muslim Spain, Northern Africa and Middle East. The main slave markets of Medieval Europe were in Prague, Lyon and Venice. Slaves were brought from Central and Eastern Europe and other pre-Christian parts. Slavery of pagans was not directly prohibited by Church but many Christians were enslaved as well. The Catholic Church as it was strengthening its political power was limiting this practice but money must have been really good because the laws agains slavery were violated. In Europe there were no Muslim slavers because they were not allowed to travel in Christian Europe. So the job was done by Jews. In Prague there was a certain priest who was an activist against slavery. He was however chased out and had to seek refuge in Poland where he later was killed by pagan Prussians in 997. He later was canonized and called St. Adalbert. In 12 century bronze doors illustrating his life was erected in Gniezno Cathedral in Poland. Out of 18 panels two show his activities against Jewish slavers:

    小组 7:他看到基督告诉他拯救基督徒免受犹太商人的奴役。
    第 8 组:他恳求波希米亚公爵释放他们的犹太主人释放基督徒奴隶。

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gniezno_Doors

    After the consolidation of power by Catholic church and the Reconquista of Iberian peninsula slavery of Europeans was eliminated from the European continent. However there was an active slavery center in Crimea where mostly Slavic, Balto-Slavic and slaves from Finland were traded to Ottoman empire. Istanbul, Bagdad, Damascus and Cairo were full of Slavic slaves. Again Jews played prominent role in this slavery route though the actual procuring of slaves by kidnaping was done by Tartars. Finally Catherine The Great put stop to this practice when she conquered Crimea and annexed it for Russia in 18 century.

    当西非通往新世界的奴隶制路线在 16 世纪开辟时,犹太人的角色(作为犹太人或马拉诺斯人)非常突出,这不足为奇。 他们在这项业务中与穆斯林和阿拉伯人打交道至少 1000 年。

    • 同意: Robjil
    • 回复: @ivan
  297. utu 说:
    @tac

    You quoted a fragment form the nationalvanguard.org. I have looked it up trying to see what actually Ben Gurion said. I am familiar with his interview in Look magazine but what is quoted in the article you cited is very confusing and there is no way of finding out who is quoted and from what source. I think it is written purposefully in conspiratorial insinuating and confusing style that probably is typical for some people who write there. Be cautious, there are lot of forgeries out there that cater to people that will eat it up if it serves their confirmation bias. Not everything you that want to be true is true.

  298. @K. W.

    Are you familiar with Lloyd DeMause’s and Alice Miller’s work on the treatment of children throughout history?

    No, I’m not. I’ll check into it, thanks.
    I’m not very good in interviews, especially in English.

    • 回复: @K. W.
  299. Robjil 说:
    @tac

    We are living in these times right now.

    Zion Age of Faith is our world of today.

    Every one trips over words recognizing from endlessly brainwashing 24/7 by our Zion uber alles MSM or having the fear from that media in our heads that God is the Jewish People. Ben Gurion told us the plan.

    One of the posters here mentioned that there were three speakers on a video who talked about Freud, two Jews and one Gentile. The Gentile said that Freud was discredited. The two Jews doubled down on him that this was not so. The Shabbos Goy Gentile quickly “agreed”. He had to do do since he had the fear of “God is the Jewish People” in him. He knows that today we live sadly in the Zion Age of Faith.

    North West Europeans, Ben Gurion calls them Aryans, said that they are the easiest to manipulate since they have idiosyncratic morality.

    What is Idiosyncratic behavior?

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/learner-english/idiosyncratic

    An idiosyncratic quality or way of behaving is typical of only one person and is often strange or unusual.

    Here is an Oxford Professor, Jeff MacMahan, who talks about this problem in the western world.

    https://qz.com/1102616/an-oxford-philosophers-moral-crisis-can-help-us-learn-to-question-our-instincts/

    Perhaps wholly dedicating oneself to a life of the mind can create idiosyncratic moral intuitions. Just as we must all interrogate how our personal backgrounds shape our instincts, surely professors should question how a life spent in the ivory tower might affect their decisions.

    All is going to plan as Ben Gurion mentioned sadly for the human race.

  300. @Robjil

    You need to be completely retarded to be unable to tell past from future. Good luck, friend. Your comments from now on will be ignored.

  301. @Robjil

    The Jews are not your servants, comrade. If the Jewish publishers don’t want this book to be published they will not publish this book. This is their own right. The same as if you open your own publishing company you will have a right to choose what to publish. So go ahead and open one, and publish this book and stop whining. The Jews do not owe you nothing.

    • 回复: @Robjil
    , @The Dark Night
  302. Robjil 说:
    @The Dark Night

    We are publishing on the internet.

    The Zion Age of Faith fanatics are doing the whining about that.

    Free speech scares them like the wicked of the west is afraid of water.

  303. melpol 说:

    Sexual perversions of male Jews have been exhaustively studied. But the mind of the Jewess has been neglected. Many of the wealthiest men have been hypnotized by the allure of the Jewess. Her behavior and thoughts cannot be resisted, they are magnetizing. Negative comments about the Jewess have been censored by the media. Many Nazi leaders took a Jewess as a wife. She is a coveted prize.

  304. ivan 说:
    @utu

    That and Shylock-like usury were the real reasons the Gentiles hated the Jews. But according to the liar Goldhagen, Jews were everywhere innocent victims set upon by the Catholic Church.

    • 回复: @Robjil
  305. Robjil 说:
    @ivan

    It is ironic that Goldenhagen thinks that Jews are “innocent” victims set upon by the Catholic Church.

    Why are there so many Ashkenazis in the world, Goldenhagen?

    Catholic Polish Kings invited 25000 Jews into Poland in 1025. This small number grew into many millions. They spread all over the Polish Kingdom 1025- 1569, later the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 1569-1764. These area was quite large. It is what is now Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, Belorussia, parts of Romania. They also spread to Hungary.

    There were no Ghettos. The Ashkenazis were merchants, money lenders or liquor sellers. They weren’t “persecuted” at all by these Catholic rulers. They had more rights and better lives than masses of Catholic or Christian Orthodox peasants which they abused ( set upon). They only intermarried with each other. Since they came from such a small group, most are third or fourth cousins of each other.

    Russians noticed their abusive behavior to the peasants of this area when they took over the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. The Russian Empire created the Pale of Settlement to keep the Ashkenazis within that area to protect the Russian peasants.

    In 1917, there was an invasion of Ashkenazis all over the areas outside the Pale of the Russian empire after the Bolshevik Revolution. All peoples of the Russian Empire were then “set upon” during the Soviet Union.

    Stalin tried to stop this behavior. He was with it to 1938. The Ashkenazis gave him a Purim poisoning in 1953. That ended that.

    Goldhagen has to read real history instead his fantasy world of the Jewish culture floating on clouds like angels on earth. We all been brainwashed endless since the end of WWII about this fantasy of

    “Jewish culture as angels in clouds”

    who never do wrong ever in their entire history.

    这个 ”Jewish angel culture in clouds” is coming crashing down to earth in the past few years. The mass hysteria of clamping down on the internet, of books, and of anyone who speaks up is all about the great fear that this Jewish angel culture will be exposed as a fantasy and a dangerous fantasy for our planet.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @Ivan
  306. K. W. 说:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Awesome, very curious to hear if you gain any insights from it.

    I heard your interview with Kevin Barrett and thought you did great, but I understand it may not be the most comfortable to do interviews in a foreign language!

  307. utu 说:
    @Robjil

    I see you repeating this

    Catholic Polish Kings invited 25000 Jews into Poland in 1025. This small number grew into many millions.

    over and over again but I do not think this claim is documented.

    • 回复: @Robjil
    , @Robjil
  308. Robjil 说:
    @utu

    It is true. It is common knowledge. The Polish Kingdom 1025 -1569 and the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth 1569-1764 was the birthplace and the growing place for Ashkenazi culture for almost a thousand years.

    Even wikipedia admits it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland

    From the founding of the Kingdom of Poland in 1025 through to the early years of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth created in 1569, Poland was the most tolerant country in Europe.[5] Historians have described the label paradisus iudaeorum (Latin for “Paradise of the Jews”).[6][7] The country became a shelter for persecuted and expelled European Jewish communities and the home to the world’s largest Jewish community of the time. According to some sources, about three-quarters of the world’s Jews lived in Poland by the middle of the 16th century.[8][9][10] W

    • 回复: @utu
  309. Robjil 说:
    @utu

    Another oddity about Poland. It did not get the Black Death in the mid 1300s. Maps of Black Death show Poland as a huge island in the middle of the European continent with no Black Death. This could be the reason for the “rumors” that Jewish merchants spread it in wells in the rest of Europe.

    https://www.medievalists.net/2019/08/black-death-did-not-reach-poland-according-to-peat-bog-evidence/

    Guzowski博士指出:“对泥炭沼泽地核的分析还提供了有关黑死病的令人惊讶的信息,黑死病是在14世纪中叶欧洲造成致命人员伤亡的瘟疫。 关于鼠疫是否也到达波兰,研究人员之间存在争论。

    “到目前为止,在我们已经分析的核心中,没有发现谷物,杂草或其他与人类活动有关的植物的花粉份额显着下降,这意味着人口没有减少。”

    • 回复: @utu
  310. Ivan 说:
    @Robjil

    It would appear that Jewish savants have ever since the story of Jacob cheating his brother Esau, have adopted the position that in these matters the best defence is a good offence.

  311. utu 说:
    @Robjil

    “是真的。” – What is true? 25,000? 1025 AD? Polish King?

    It is not even close. Though it could be the judeo centric version of history as Jews always wanted to portray themselves as being in Poland from the very beginning. There was no more than 1000 Jews in Poland in 15 century. No Polish king or ruler invited Jews to Poland in 11, 12, 13 or century.

    The only Jews in 9-12 century in Poland and Bohemia were slavers. See my comment

    https://www.unz.com/article/freud-sexual-abuse-and-cover-up/#comment-3484805

    • 回复: @Robjil
  312. Robjil 说:
    @utu

    Yes, that is true about slavery. You right about.

    Thanks for the many articles that you posted about slavery in the Czech lands in the 9th and 10th century. Jews were very prominent in that. This slavery of Czech Slavs was the reason that the word Slav is connected to the word slave. This was only the beginning of Slav slavery. It continued till Crimea was conquered by the Russians in the late 1700s. This slavery business in Eastern Europe is another reason Eastern Europeans can’t be “guilted” about their history like Western Europe.

    So maybe the invitation to Poland in 1025 is just a fig leaf. The Jewish presence was already there with Slav slavery.

    https://is.muni.cz/el/1421/jaro2015/AEA_16/um/54995610/Instanbul_otroci_ENG.pdf
    3页

    Jewish Radanite slave traders took Slav slaves to Muslim Spain. It was huge market in Muslim Spain.

    The market of the Moravians was frequented by the Jewish Radanites, as well as the merchants of Venice and Bavaria, who would take the slaves away from there in two different directions. The western route led over Regensburg, Verdun as far as the Caliphate of Córdoba in the Iberian peninsula and further on via the port in Almeria to the Maghreb. The southern, or south-eastern way was routed through Venice to the Near East. Slav slaves, called al-Sakaliba in Arabic, must have arrived in great numbers. Just in the court of one of the caliphs of Córdoba, Abd-ar-Rahman III, in the first half of the 10th century, they stood at 13750 (Brantjes). They are mentioned for the first time as early as during the Spanish Umayaad ruler al-Hakim who was in power between 796-82

    Who were the Radanites?

    https://www.liquisearch.com/radhanite/end_of_the_radhanite_age

    End of The Radhanite Age

    The fall of the Tang Dynasty of China in 908 and the destruction of the Khazar Khaganate some sixty years later (circa 968-969 AD) led to widespread chaos in Inner Eurasia, the Caucasus and China. Trade routes became unstable and unsafe, a situation exacerbated by Turkic invasions of Persia and the Middle East, and the Silk Road largely collapsed for centuries. This period saw the rise of the mercantile Italian city-states, especially Genoa, Venice, Pisa, and Amalfi, who viewed the Radhanites as unwanted competitors.

    The economy of Europe was profoundly affected by the disappearance of the Radhanites. For example, documentary evidence indicates that many spices in regular use during the early Middle Ages completely disappeared from European tables in the 10th century. Jews had previously, in large parts of Western Europe, enjoyed a virtual monopoly on the spice trade.

    Some have speculated that a collection of 11th century Jewish scrolls discovered in a cave in Afghanistan’s Samangan province in 2011 may be a “leftover” of the Rhadanites, who had mostly disappeared by the 11th century.

    Reading this history, is a good indication that we are not given the big picture of the history of the world, only glimpses for agendas.

  313. Robjil 说:

    Here is more about why Poland was the center of the Jewish Diaspora for many centuries.

    http://polishfreedom.pl/en/document/a-general-privilege-for-the-jews-in-greater-poland-the-statue-of-kalisz

    这份犹太人自由宪章由Wieskopolska公爵(大波兰)的BolesławPobożny(虔诚的Boleslaus虔诚者)于1264年发行,该《犹太人自由宪章》(又称《卡里斯规约》)以波希米亚,奥地利和匈牙利的犹太人享有的较早权利为蓝本。 。 该《规约》由三十六条组成,对犹太人的管辖权,犹太人从事的信贷和贸易活动的规则及其与基督徒的关系作了规定。 它使维埃尔科波尔斯卡内所有犹太社区共同面临的基本经济,组织和文化/宗教问题井然有序。 最初,《卡里斯法规》仅在Wielkopolska具有约束力。 但是,后来卡齐米日三世·维尔基国王(卡西米尔三世)证实了这一观点,他于1334年将其扩展到波兰王国的所有犹太人。 结果,波兰以及后来的波兰立陶宛联邦(Rzeczpospolita)成为了现代早期犹太人最大的散居中心(即使只是数字上的),原因是它保证了特别有利的生活条件和对犹太教和犹太教的培养。犹太习俗。

  314. utu 说:
    @Robjil

    What if one correlates Black Death occurrence with trade centers and Jewish population? It is a far reaching hypothesis but some people thought such thoughts that as Jews were being evicted in Western Europe the Black Death occurred but not as much in Poland where many of them were moving in 14 century. Basically why if Jews had something to do with spreading the disease?

    • 同意: Robjil
    • 回复: @Robjil
  315. Robjil 说:
    @utu

    It is very strange that Poland was not effected since Black Death came from Eastern Europe.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/teeth-tell-black-death-genetic-tale/

    The researchers then reconstructed the genomes of the plague bacteria from different sites. Based on the location of the most ancestral strain of bacteria, they think the pathogen most likely first arrived in eastern Europe before spreading rapidly across the rest of the continent. But as it dispersed, Spyrou says, it picked up just a single genetic mutation.

  316. John Wear 说:

    洛朗·盖耶诺特

    This is a minor point, but Sigmund Freud was born May 6, 1856. Therefore, the date in the caption “Sigmund and his father Jacob in 1854” is clearly wrong.

    • 回复: @Laurent Guyénot
  317. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Any research done into how many tens of millions of Russians are scarred because their ancestors enduredterror of the Cheka, the NKVD or of the KGB?

    Даже Ke-Ge-Be? Vova’s very own auspicious incubator? Sheesh. But naturally the Okhrana gets a pass from you. (Hint: They had 一些 Jewish members too, so no reason for you to go so easy on them.)
    Well, the fact that there are still TENS of millions of Russians around to be scarred kind of answers your question, doesn’t it? (Hint: the Jewish millions have only just recently reentered into the TEENS.) Also, does this scarring perchance happen to entail consuming liquid substances known to result in serious liver damage?

    How about the number of Poles and Lithuanians who had their DNA altered by cruel overlords?

    Are you coyly referring to droit du seigneur/jus primae noctis/getting the first dibs on or to something else entirely? The rightful heirs of said overlords themselves probably ended up in the wilderness of Siberia eventually anyway, courtesy of those same NKVD you just impugned. I suppose no good deed goes unpunished round these parts. Cruel indeed.

  318. @Colin Wright

    All this tells us a lot about Freud et al — does it describe Maimonides?

    This is a strange analogy, as Freud has far more in common with judaic mysticism/ kabbalah than with jewish rationalism. “Does it describe Isaac Luria?” would be much more apt…

  319. @AaronB

    Blaming outsiders for internal problems is an endemic vice of the Muslim world, and the loser half of the white world and blablabla

    LOL

    Like the long-discredited semitic canard of muh so-called “anti-semitism?” Which is, of course — as all educated people understand — merely the reified projection of toxic, hate-filled semitism.

  320. Prajna 说: • 您的网站
    @AaronB

    “This was done out of perceived American interests. The calculations now, of course, are changing.”

    It was done as a fucking bribe in the hope that the psychopathic Israelies would drop their nuclear weapons programme but nah, they just killed JFK and carried on regardless.

  321. Tsigantes 说:
    @annamaria

    Word needs to get out about the Leopold and Loeb case too, though that was ‘all in the family’ since the victim murdered in cold blood was a young boy cousin.

    Hmm. Maybe there was more to that case than reported? (in light of this article).

  322. Tsigantes 说:
    @Richard B

    Spot on :

    Who ever heard of rebuilding civilization on a foundation of ridicule, sarcasm, shame, blame, misrepresentation, denial and projection?

  323. Tsigantes 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The German state is paying reparations to the grandchildren now. I believe that they are paying more than ever.

  324. @Wally

    You take offence at us Europeans using our own languages, do you?
    I take it you are an imperial Yanker, Vally.
    Vell don’t you vorry, Vally Yanker; ve Europeans vill deal vith you Yankers once ve’ve taken care of the Juus.
    And do you know vhat ve’ll do? Ve’ll lock you up in conc camps and deprive you of hamburgers, tv and porn.
    You’ll be miserable as hell, of course. But that’s just the beginning.
    There vill be no more Globlish all around – as there’s now. But there vill be Mass said in Latin, over and over again.
    There will be compulsory classes of old Norse ten hours a day. Compulsory, I tell you.
    It vill be required of you that you TERMINATE and pass those courses.
    Othervise you’ll be despatched off to Hell, vhich is another camp vhere you vill be forced to listen to the Svedish Chef, yes the one from Muppet Shov, reading aloud to you, producing incomprehensible sounds vaguely reminiscent of English and of your idiot aunt.

  325. Mevashir 说:

    Another fascinating article. Thank you for slaying yet another sacred cow. As a Jewish believer in Jesus, I have often reflected on the psychological consequences of circumcision. I had never considered the perspective you offer. Rather I considered the fact that cultures that practice circumcision, Jewish Muslim and African, tend to have very high rates of fertility. I speculated that the trauma of the circumcision creates a lifelong urge of the circumcised male to find safety in the female’s vagina as a way to heal and protect his wounded sex organ. And the consequence of this is a high rate of procreation and reproduction, which probably is the hidden purpose of circumcision all along.

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