Unz评论•另类媒体选择$
美国主流媒体大都排除了有趣,重要和有争议的观点
 新闻于活动保罗·科西(Paul Kersey)档案
隐藏的人物神话解散
不是黑人让美国登上月球,他们实际上是想阻止它

书签 全部切换总目录添加到图书馆从图书馆中删除 • B
显示评论下一个新评论下一个新回复了解更多
回复同意/不同意/等等 更多... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
同意不同意谢谢LOL轮唱
这些按钮可将您的公开协议,异议,感谢,LOL或巨魔与所选注释一起注册。 仅对最近使用“记住我的信息”复选框保存姓名和电子邮件的频繁评论者可用,并且在任何八个小时的时间内也只能使用三次。
忽略评论者 关注评论者
搜寻文字 区分大小写  确切的词  包括评论
列表 书签

参见: 被大肆宣传的人物:约翰·格伦(John Glenn)和凯瑟琳·约翰逊(Katherine Johnson)的PC神话—无名的黑人女性并不是我们登月的原因; 为什么不拍一部关于杰克·克伦肖的电影-白人实际上做了什么隐藏的数字,归功于黑人妇女; 美国应该感到羞耻:为什么没有隐藏有关“纳粹科学家”亚瑟·鲁道夫的数字?].

Octavia Spencer,被大肆宣传的电影的明星之一 隐藏图,只需 告诉“纽约时报” 我是对黑人妇女使美国登上月球的神话的仅有的“少数白痴”之一。 在我最初在VDARE.com上曝光后, 黑人女博士生 写信给我,并声称即使故事的某些部分是虚构的,也没关系:

起步价 [电子邮件保护]

你好,

文章质疑真相 隐藏图 字符,或更确切地说,点击诱饵的不良尝试-滴落在白色的眼泪中。 为什么花时间写关于不存在的反种族主义的文章? 您肯定可以用140个字符或更少的推文来概括该文章! “博士杰克·克伦肖也帮了忙!” 和“凯瑟琳·约翰逊甚至看起来都不黑! 她可能是白人!” 而且,不要忘记“让我们登上月球的黑人女性很少可笑!”

我曾希望您的种族主义品牌在“那是一个不同的时代”种族主义者中消失了,但是您的文章使我明白,作为黑人女博士生,仍然会有人怀疑我的信誉,因为我皮肤中黑色素的量。

我希望您能对自己的许多明显的特权进行自我教育,并利用它以类似的口吻告诉其他人,为什么诸如此类的文章所造成的危害比我的职业生涯更深远。 虽然我会承认好莱坞的售票尝试将故事的某些部分虚构,但我会选择对现实生活中的人们进行虚构的刻画,以期将其完全擦除.

最好的,

蒂芙尼

2017 年 1 月 12 日 强调补充说

当然,所有这些都引出了一个显而易见的问题,即“虚构”如何 隐藏图 真的是。

与神话相反,美国已经彻底 种族鞭打 当NASA处于鼎盛时期。 例如,一个 “华盛顿邮报” 24年1973月XNUMX日,题为“种族主义,性别歧视和太空冒险”的报道是一种陈规定型的哀叹,美国宇航局在雇用非白人时落后于其他联邦机构:

从1966年到今年1.1月,NASA的少数族裔就业人数仅增长了5.19%。 通过将其目前的20%的少数族裔就业人数与XNUMX%的政府部门人数进行对比,可以评估NASA在该领域进行的XNUMX年努力的有效性。 [种族主义,性别歧视和太空冒险, [付款档案]华盛顿邮报, 十一月24,1973(PDF)]

稀缺黑人领导人极度批评。 当人类即将降落在月球上时,黑色杂志 喷射 谴责太空计划使用金钱,而这些钱本来可以更好地花在黑人福利计划上。 [发射时月球上的黑人稀缺, 通过Simeon Booker, 喷射,31年1969月XNUMX日]

不甘示弱, 黑人 该杂志发表社论,将登月的白人与哥伦布前往新世界的航程进行了比较,结果“导致了有史以来最臭名昭著和持久的强奸案之一” [人类的大跃进?, 黑人(1969年XNUMX月)

上个月,Ebony报告说,黑人反对他们认为是白人纳税人资金分配不当,更适合于缓解黑人社区和非洲的贫困:

从哈林到瓦茨,去年XNUMX月的第一次登月被愤世嫉俗地视为“人类”的一小步,可能是人类向错误方向的一次巨大飞跃。 除了也许在第一次登陆时,其余人口中的大部分人只是无聊。

[黑人如何看待人类的“巨步”:太空科学家,外行从不同的角度看待太空计划,史蒂文·莫里斯·埃博尼(Steven Morris Ebony)着,1970年33月,第XNUMX页。 XNUMX]

16年1969月XNUMX日,拉尔夫·阿伯纳西(Ralph Abernathy)(马丁·路德·金(Martin Luther King)的民权改组机器的继承人) 子推车,带三个m子 ,以及其他150名可怜的黑人抗议NASA向月球发射。 [抗议者,VIPS洪水角地区, 威廉·格雷德(William Greider) 华盛顿邮报, 17年1969月XNUMX日]

甚至 时间“新闻周刊”打乱 由月球的百合白色性质发射。 时间,例如,问 “月亮是白色的吗?”

杂志继续说道:“在发布会当天,贵宾看台是一个缩影 美国白人名人录; 注意到黑色的脸很稀奇,这令人不安。” 在美国非裔美国人社区中,反对昂贵的太空计划的反对尤其强烈。 “得克萨斯州拥有油井,大型农场,如今已成为世界航天中心,象征着富裕的美国,”美国黑匣子主任赫伯特·詹姆斯(Herbert James)说。 国家福利权利组织, “但是在这个伟大的国家中,存在着相当多的贫困。 饥饿和饥饿发生在距离航天中心数英里的范围内。”

[哥伦比亚美国电视史, (加里·埃格顿,第272-273页)

从长远来看,这些黑人领导人得到了他们想要的东西。 美国放弃了探索天堂 没有花费数万亿的假装种族.

现在,我们应该跪下来赞美在一部已经拍摄的电影中被册封的三个黑人妇女明显夸大的贡献 赢得了电影演员协会奖 无疑将获得奥斯卡金像奖。

隐藏图 制定了令人痛苦的明显议程 使白人科学家,物理学家,工程师,数学家,项目经理,航空专家和火箭科学家的贡献合法化。 相反,美国最大的胜利显然取决于未知的黑人女性,他们手动计算出计算机和白人已经确认的轨迹 名为杰克·克伦肖.

立即订购

但是即使在1969年,NASA和联邦政府也会为炫耀对登月的任何黑色贡献而感到自豪。 通过强调黑人对阿波罗计划的贡献,美国宇航局本可以阻止黑人演唱吉尔·斯科特·赫伦(Gil Scott-Heron)的歌曲 “月球上的白色” (哪一个 哀叹 当白人在月球上时,老鼠如何咬住黑人歌手的姐姐)。

但这没有发生。

为什么当时美国航空航天局的某人没有提起凯瑟琳·约翰逊来应对这种负面宣传?

简单的。 她的贡献微不足道,NASA的人都没有注意到它们足以突出它们。

这就是为什么 隐藏图 很重要,必须给予奖励和称赞。 它创造了一种新的叙事,完全没有事实,即使黑人在面对歧视时也参与了黑人的最大成就。 这是一种叙事,某些观众想要听[隐藏图 电影票房排行榜第一,作者:乔伊·诺尔菲(Joey Nolfi), 娱乐周刊, 9年2017月XNUMX日]。

当然,观众肯定也想在1969年相信这一点。 凯瑟琳·约翰逊(Katherine Johnson)的贡献如此重要,她本来是当时急需的少数族裔公共关系资产,可以向媒体大肆宣扬。

但是她作为象征的价值是有限的,因为她的贡献微不足道。

她现在只能长大,因为关于黑人反对太空计划的真实真相已经被人看不见。

保罗·克西[给他发电子邮件]是博客的作者 BPDL,并出版了这些书 SBPDL一年级, 好莱坞的黑脸 逃离底特律, 美国阿片:黑色和白色的大学橄榄球第二城市机密:芝加哥的黑人体验. 他最近的书是 悲惨的城市:伯明翰1963-2 013.

(从重新发布 威达 经作者或代表的许可)
 
相关兴趣
隐藏203条评论发表评论
忽略评论者...跟随Endorsed Only
修剪评论?
    []
  1. Anon • 免责声明 说:

    You’ve finally arrived: you’re in the NYT as a hatemonger.

    祝贺您!

    • 同意: Kyle McKenna
  2. Anonymous [AKA "Aquarius3"] 说:

    I came here to read Israel Shamir, whom I found after a long time, and stayed to peruse the site. Glad I did but apart from Shamir I am disgusted with UNZ and I wont be back. I find this site to be totally focused on black americans in a negative way. almost every article deals with blacks as the cause and source of all america’s problems, which of course is totally ridiculous.

    世界正面临资本主义的崩溃,必须找到一种新的方式来组织生活和靠大自然谋生。 黑人不拥有该系统,也不应对这种系统性失败负责,但与白人工人阶级一样,他们是该系统的主要受害者。 显然,白人工人阶级并不这么看,他们比黑人更成为分而治之的种族政治的受害者。

    I have seen no discussion here yet relative to this fact but I have stopped looking and I am leaving, never to return. I will find Shamir elsewhere I am sure. I don’t have to come here at all.

  3. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    你好。

    I don’t know if you’ll read this comment, but nevertheless …

    The Unz Review doesn’t take policy positions. Ron Unz does, but one of his is imposing his opinions on others to the least possible extent, and so he uses this website to create a sort of “safe space”, if you will, for people who are outside the current (very narrow) Overton window of political discourse. Since media and pop-cult dogma or rather praxis is to exalt blacks (and other marginal groups) whenever possible and even often when impossible, such writing as Mr. Kersey’s, the HBDers’, the anti-immigrationists’, etc. fits here naturally.

    There’s plenty of commentary here directed at the people who do ” own the system”; besides Mr. Shamir there’s Mr.Giraldi, Mr. Whitney, Mr. Roberts, and the fellow who goes by “the Saker”, just off the top of my head. Even many of the people you criticize feel quite the same way about our rulers, and don’t hesitate to express the fact.

    You’ll also find that quite a few members of the commenting community feel quite the same way you do, about blacks as well as capitalist overlords.

    So if you like the idea of a place for (nearly) free speech, don’t go yet!
    Although, I warn you, this site gets addictive …

  4. syonredux 说:
    @Anonymous

    我发现这个网站完全以消极的方式关注美国黑人。几乎每一篇文章都将黑人视为美国所有问题的根源和根源,这当然是完全荒谬的。

    Well, unfortunately, Blacks are a huge problem for American society. Although comprising only 12.6% of the population of the USA, they account for a disproportionate share of the nation’s homicides:

    根据联邦调查局 SHR 数据,2009 年有 6,505 起黑人凶杀案
    美国的受害者。 美国黑人受害者的凶杀率
    州是每 17.90 人中 100,000 个。 那一年,全国的整体凶杀率为
    每 4.76 人 100,000。 对于白人,全国凶杀率为每 2.92 万人 100,000 人。

    homicide12.pdf >http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf

    当然,他们的平均智商约为 85,远低于美国白人的平均智商 (100)。

    而且该网站并不完全关注黑人在美国社会中的负面角色。例如,史蒂夫·赛勒 (Steve Sailor) 经常注意到混血儿和美洲裔西班牙裔构成的威胁。事实上,由于他们的平均智商较低*和迅速增长的人数,他们很快就会超过黑人,成为英美最基因缺陷的人群。

    *

    “乌鸦标准渐进矩阵测试是对在墨西哥的920名白人,墨西哥混血儿和墨西哥土著7至10岁儿童的代表性样本进行的。 从100年英国标准化样本中获得并经估计的后续增加调整后的相对于英国平均值1979的平均智商为:白人98·0,混血儿94·3,墨西哥土著印第安人83·3。”

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=266611

    • 回复: @uslabor
  5. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    The real myth is the moon landing itself, which underlies all these additional myths like the myth that black women were somehow instrumental to the moon landing.. The reason they’re so comfortable with adding these additional myths like Hidden Figures is because the whole thing is based on a myth. Once you’ve concocted a giant fairy tale, it’s no big deal to add another chapter to the fairy tale.

  6. 1rw 说:
    @Anonymous

    但克西先生在他的散文中明确指出,“我们”大概是白人,“花了数万亿美元假装种族不存在”。 他对此表示遗憾,因为这些数万亿美元本可以用于更酷的太空探索。

    黑人,或者至少我在电视上看到的绝大多数人,或者在互联网上阅读的人,我不与太多人互动,永远不要忘记种族的存在。 种族似乎是他们身份的核心,也是观察世界的镜头。

    显然,Kersey 先生的问题是白人以及他们愚蠢地试图让种族无关紧要。 它既昂贵又吃力不讨好,因为正如我所说,黑人永远不会一起玩。 他们知道自己是谁,并且喜欢成为这样的人。

    白人需要放弃这种毫无结果的骗局,重新投入数万亿美元的太空探索。 如果没有平权行动,世界上永远不会有无法在白人社会中立足的贫穷黑人。 我们可以在这个问题上再投入数万亿美元,这无济于事。

    但是,如果我们花费数万亿美元,一个方下巴、蓝眼睛的白人就可以踏上火星。 这是一个可以解决的问题,而且解决起来会非常令人满意。

    更多的太空探索,更多的科学,更多的技术。 阿斯特拉广告

  7. 让我们期待 凯莎·罗杰斯 来自得克萨斯州的黑人女性,2010年民主党国会候选人的骄傲“拉鲁奇”,民主党当然吓坏了,她提出了一个大胆而乐观的竞选口号~

    “帮我送去国会,我们就可以把我们的孙子们送上火星!”

    如果我们了解我们的历史,在这个成就方向上,这是她最近的一篇与人类未来以及我们现在的福祉特别相关的文章。

    https://larouchepac.com/20170206/kesha-rogers-46th-anniversary-apollo-14-moon-landing

  8. anon • 免责声明 说:

    As soon as I saw the previews I knew this movie would be propaganda.

  9. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t believe blacks are the “cause” of the problem, like I guess Mr Kersey does.

    I put most of the blame for America’s downfall on Anglos and Jews.

    But blacks definately play a big part in it. And I don’t see why we can’t discuss it. Some people like Kersey will focus exclusively on blacks, maybe because he lives in a black neighborhood or was personnaly hurt by blacks. But his viewpoint is valid all the same.

    Being that you came here for Isreal Shamir, I assume you are Jewish correct? If so the very kind of political correctness and double standards you show in your post is exactly why we need a place like Unz. And if this place makes you feel uncomfortable maybe you should go back to the New York Times and never leave the safety of your cozy Brooklyn neighborhood.

  10. Triumph104 说:

    But even in 1969, NASA and the federal government would have been proud to show off any black contributions to the moon landing. By highlighting black contributions to the Apollo program, NASA could have kept blacks from singing songs like Gil Scott-Heron’s “Whitey on the Moon” (which bemoaned how a rat could bite the black singer’s sister while white people were on the moon).

    但这没有发生。

    Actually, it did happen.  NASA did show off black contributors to the moon landing.  In 1970.

    Ebony and Jet are bourgeoisie publications.   John H. Johnson was the owner and founder; he liked the same things that white people like.  Following Ebony’s September 1970 article, there is an article on golfer Lee Elder who can be seen in photos with golfers Jack Nicklaus, Lee Trevino, Bob Shaw, the governor of Ohio, andhis (Elder’s) twin poodles.   Coincidentally, Ebony is where I first read about a 6-year old Tiger Woods.

    The July 1969 Jet was upset that there were no NASA-affiliated blacks visible, including astronaut trainee Air Force Major Robert H. Lawrence.  He died in 1967 at the age of 32.   Lawrence had a Phd in Physical Chemistry from Ohio State.  The White House held a private dinner for the men who gave their lives to the space program.

    “While following the activity at Cape Kennedy, a TV viewer sees very few – if any – black engineers, scientists, or computer programmers.”   Since Abernathy and his minions were visible blacks at the launch, Jet covered them.  Ebony and Jet were unaware of the blacks behind the scenes.

    The September 1970 Ebony article starts off saying the space exploration doesn’t capture the average person’s attention.  (Didn’t the movie Apollo 13 mention that no one was initially watching that flight?)  However, the article goes on to describe the changes over time in hiring black professionals and shows the photos and discusses the contributions of 19 black men connected to the space program, obviously information supplied by NASA.

    What is strange is that no women are mentioned, especially since the article is immediately followed by an IBM ad profiling female computer programmer Mardi Joyner.  I wonder if Katherine Johnson had a job title at that time that was not as impressive as “research mathematician”.  

    A change in tune from the 1969 articles, Ebony September 1970:

    “People act as if the money was sent up there along with the rockets,” says Williams.  “The money is still down here on Earth.  Black people should get into the space field so they can get a bigger share of it, that’s all.”

    Though black people with Williams’ job responsibilities are extremely rare in the space program, this is a situation that will almost certainly change if more black people devote themselves to aerospace, says some blacks in the fields.  […]  The barriers to blacks did drop in the 1950s, and the hiring pace quickened in the 60s.  “It’s not true at all that blacks are being kept out of the moon program,” Jenkins says.  […]

    Largely because of recent federal contract clauses that stipulate a minimum percentage of blacks who must work for a company that does work for the government, the demand for blacks in private aerospace industry in some areas exceeds the number available for jobs.   While recent cutbacks in the space program resulted in the layoff of many white workers, some companies used preferential hiring and retention practices to raise the number of black employees nearer to government-ordered levels.  Still, at most companies the proportion of blacks to whites is nowhere near equitable.  Though Grumman, for instance, draws its workers from far away as New York City, a recent count showed only 1,500 blacks among the company’s 30,000 workers.  And the overwhelming number of blacks were in low pay, low skill positions.

    • 回复: @Triumph104
    , @Triumph104
  11. El Dato 说:

    这条熨平板很适合包裹我的薯条,但我必须先把它打印出来。

    哦不,黑人!太可怕了。

    她的贡献是如此微不足道,以至于美国国家航空航天局 (NASA) 没有人注意到她的贡献,并予以突出强调。

    Same as every engineer’s contributions in the whole system, really. That’s the way it works.

    从长远来看,这些黑人领袖得到了他们想要的。美国放弃了对天空的探索,花费了数万亿美元假装种族不存在。

    通过将两个没有任何因果关系的陈述并列起来,您就可以赢得一块饼干。登月计划对苏联来说是一击制胜。一旦取得成功,该计划就可以结束,白象公司在航天飞机等项目上的支出就可以继续进行。

    然后我们继续花费数万亿美元轰炸亚洲穿着睡衣的人或美索不达米亚没有大规模杀伤性武器的人。

    As “giving up the heavens”, they haven’t even been “had” yet. The near Earth, deep space, and martian robot expeditions are a total success though, I would love to see more of that.

    • 回复: @wow
    , @MarkinLA
    , @Anonymous
  12. Triumph104 说:
    @Triumph104

    为太空计划做出贡献的黑人专业人士(Ebony,1970 年 XNUMX 月)。

    卡尔·埃科尔斯– 月球着陆器车辆项目工程师,发布命令帮助宇航员返回阿波罗 13 号
    Remer C. 普林斯– 车辆工程师,阿波罗 11 号、阿波罗 14 号
    休·M·布朗– 工程师,联邦电气公司在肯尼迪航天中心的七个跟踪站的主管
    安东尼厄尔– 波音工程师,负责监督新奥尔良工厂,该工厂提供水井、水箱和泵来浇灌停机坪和阿波罗以防止火灾
    莱昂·莫斯博士– 金属研究帮助北美罗克韦尔公司决定命令模块的结构
    萨姆·塞泽– 电气工程师,车辆测试员
    乔治·W·里德博士– 宇宙化学家,阿贡国家实验室,在月球岩石中发现了地球上没有的矿物
    OS (Ozzie) 威廉姆斯– 拯救了三名阿波罗 13 号宇航员生命的月球着陆器制导火箭发动机的首席开发商,管理格鲁曼公司赢得可重复使用航天飞机合同的努力
    查尔斯·W·鲍克奈特博士– 气体研究员,告诉宇航员应该在月球上走多远才能收集未被着陆器气体污染的岩石
    克劳福德乔治– 系统工程师,负责组装阿波罗 14 号火箭第二级
    爱德华·O·福斯特– 化学家,定向环境控制实验室,北美罗克韦尔航天部
    凯尔维特·E·肖– 工程师主管,为月球任务实验中使用的材料设计了储藏室
    路易斯·B·格兰特博士– 燃料科学家,专门研究肼——为登月舱从月球起飞和重返地球定位的燃料的基础
    小海恩斯·埃利斯 –  electrical engineer, consultant on Apollo’s super-sensitive high-gain antenna
    托马斯·E·詹金斯 (Thomas E Jenkins) - 美国宇航局前阿波罗计划助理主任
    詹姆斯·史密斯– 肯尼迪航天中心的 NASA 经理,监督对提供服务的公司的支出
    肯尼斯·洛瑞– 高级组长,设计登月舱的燃料装载控制器
    唐纳德·高哈德– 交流电子实验室负责人,故障排除课程控制系统
    罗伯特·霍奇–(无学历)运营经理,负责建造两个登月舱

    • 回复: @Olorin
    , @V. Uil
    , @RAGNAR LOTHBROK
  13. @Anonymous

    Very puzzling that yoir personal bias should give you such a misleading impression of the conent of Unz Review’s aricles and content. From outside America I can see no evidence of many articles dealing with blacks at all, let alone most, and treating them as the cause of “all [or even most] of America’s problems”.

    The prejudiced obsession of perhaps 50 -60 per cent of regular commenters is with Jews past and present. Blacks are relegated as if a known intractible problem of low average (no one even bothers to suggest negative) contribution to American prosperity or Americans’ achievement in anything but sport and jazz. Nobody disputes it so it really doesn’t get much space contrary to your warped impression.

    But do by all means refrain from commenting on UR. There are enough low IQ obsessives without you.

  14. JackOH 说:
    @Anonymous

    Aquarius3, give Unz评论 a second chance. I’ve successfully suggested UR to two junior faculty at my local Podunk Tech, noting that some comments do appear to be out-and-out anti-Black racist and anti-Semitic.

    I cavil with much here. I’ve wanted to back off my reading. Still, I return because I can’t think of another publication that blasts away at the Orwellian bafflegab America we live in.

    Trust Ron Unz’s judgment. True, he publishes on occasion some truly weird stuff. But, his heart’s in the right place, he’s doing this on his own dime, and he accepts no advertising. Plus, he’s presented himself to the public as a state-level political candidate and public thinker with occasional success.

    Some of the authors and commenters here seem to be genuine experts. You’ll learn something from them. And, you’ll also be infuriated by some of them.

    Welcome aboard, buddy.

  15. wow 说:

    你知道这部电影的惊人之处以及黑人贡献的歇斯底里……。

    今天真正可以进行更高水平微积分/数学的黑人女性的现代例子到底在哪里?

    “如果我有来自8个不同奶爸的19个孩子,我能得到多少福利?

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  16. wow 说:
    @El Dato

    就像那些穿着睡衣的人并没有令人作呕地互相轰炸和杀害一样。 2000年来,中东一直是和平与安宁的灯塔,直到那些美国恶霸出现为止!哈哈!!!!

    • 回复: @FLgeezer
  17. TheJester 说:

    One of the appealing things about “Hidden Figures” (and the articles and blog posts exposing it) is that “Hidden Figures” is a perfect example of retconning history. It is not theoretical or a reference to Orwellian agitprop from a bygone historical era. It is the radical falsification of history ongoing before our eyes and perpetrated in plain sight by Hollywood and the media.

    There is no question that the newly found central role of Black women in the higher mathematics necessary for taking America to the moon will soon be incorporated into history books and taught to students at all levels from grade schools to universities. Those who resist the fiction are, by definition, hateful racists and sexists who should be purged.

    The lesson: A society like ours that enforces 政治上的正确 in social and racial issues should be a suspect society … radically suspect. It is as if large segments of the population collectively engage in psychotic behaviors that, as individuals, would be diagnosed as mental illnesses listed the 精神疾病诊断与统计手册 (DSM)。

    At some point, the illusions and delusions proffered for reality (i.e. diversity is strength; there is no such thing as race; there are no differences between men and women, etc.) create such chasms between belief and reality that society implodes on itself in a social collapse reminiscent of the Soviet Union. Cut loose from reality, society goes adrift like a boat without a sail or rudder. Nothing works anymore … and no one knows why.

    • 回复: @Madhava reader
    , @JackOH
    , @JackOH
  18. wow 说:

    令人惊奇的是,这部电影如何推进这样一种叙事:登月只是一次性的事情,而轻易地忘记了白人在 15 年来设计的所有其他项目,最终导致了登月。

    美国宇航局在月球上着陆,测试并重新测试火箭,无人驾驶,载人飞行以确定未知变量......所有这一切早在人类踏上真正的月球之前。在之前的任务中,人类已经绕行了月球轨道。

  19. I apparently was oblivious to any organised black opposition to the space program at the time. I was aware that some liberals were highly critical of it as a waste of money that could better be spent on social programs. For example, my Ph.D. mentor saw no value in exploring space, even though he had done his own post-doctoral work at NASA’s Ames Research Institute.

    • 回复: @Madhava reader
  20. Triumph104 说:
    @Triumph104

    Following Ebony’s September 1970 article, there is an article on golfer Lee Elder …

    Correction: Ebony’s October 1969 article

  21. unit472 说:

    The sad reality is the negro has never played a major role in the creation of ANY major business, endeavor or technology. They just don’t have the organizational or intellectual ability. Where they have been allowed to run existing organizations the organization atrophies. Obama’s presidency was the latest and grandest example. Other examples include McDonalds, Sears. Citigroup, Time Warner, Xerox and American Express all of which had or have black CEO’s but are a shell of their former selves.

    It is worth noting that the FANGS, Microsoft, Oracle, Intel, Cisco etc did not even exist when the Civil Rights Acts were passed and yet this entire technological revolution passed the negro by. Jesse Jackson was demanding US auto dealerships be given to blacks even as the Japanese auto companies were eating American auto makers lunch. The situation is no better today as blacks whine about being excluded from the Academy Awards while Hollywood is dying

    • 回复: @marty
  22. ….a black female doctoral student wrote me and claimed even though portions of the story were fictionalized, it didn’t matter:

    To her, probably little matters if it interferes with her own political agenda and she probably learned the tactic of dismissal by another protected group.

    Right here, on UR, in the comments for Giraldi’s excellent expose of Israeli malfeasance “Israel conspires against the Mother of Parliaments,” I was warned “to stop having a snowflake-style freak-out every time you learn Israel did something like this. We do it. They do it. Everyone does it. And it’s an essential part of running a competent government in any country.”

    The essence of the other comments (s)he made were that “it doesn’t matter.”

    Strange how that works.

  23. @Anonymous

    I am disgusted with UNZ and I wont be back. I find this site to be totally focused on black americans in a negative way. almost every article deals with blacks as the cause and source of all america’s problems, which of course is totally ridiculous.

    Don’t leave! Make yer contributions and watch ’em howl.

    As you say, Blacks seem targeted for demonization but so are Muslims and people in other countries as well. And the IQ crapola spouted here is beyond sophomoronic bigotry; it’s mostly positively pathologic pedantic pseudo-scientific sophistry.

    Still, although it’s not saying much, it’s among the most informative websites extant and I actually learn something from about 1 in 500 comments which are generally more useful than the articles themselves. So stick around for a while; I believe Ron Unz means well.

    • 同意: utu
  24. anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Some in comments are even predicting the apocalypse. Doubt it. Just let black women have some fun. Live and let live.

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  25. SIMPLE 说:

    “Hidden Figures”: Fake, but Accurate. Another liberal lie.

  26. FLgeezer 说:
    @wow

    >直到那些美国恶霸出现!!!

    更正:..直到那些犹太复国主义恶霸出现!

  27. Svigor 说:

    我曾希望您的种族主义品牌在“那是一个不同的时代”种族主义者中消失了,但是您的文章使我明白,作为黑人女博士生,仍然会有人怀疑我的信誉,因为我皮肤中黑色素的量。

    Of course there is. See “Action, Affirmative” and “Privilege, Black” for why.

    Not to be outdone, Ebony magazine published an editorial comparing white men going to the moon to Columbus’s voyage to the New World, which led “to one of the most infamous and long lasting rapes of all history”

    This short changes Blacks. Blacks are the world heavyweight champs of rape, especially gang rape, but they’re not so good at writing things down. So, the Uncle Toms at Ebony buy into the White Supremacist version of history, and give hispanics credit for what should be a Black achievement (most infamous rape in all of history, not Columbus’ voyage).

  28. Svigor 说:

    编辑窗口仍然太短:

    我曾希望您的种族主义品牌在“那是一个不同的时代”种族主义者中消失了,但是您的文章使我明白,作为黑人女博士生,仍然会有人怀疑我的信誉,因为我皮肤中黑色素的量。

    Of course there will. See “Action, Affirmative” and “Privilege, Black” for why.

    Not to be outdone, Ebony magazine published an editorial comparing white men going to the moon to Columbus’s voyage to the New World, which led “to one of the most infamous and long lasting rapes of all history”

    This short changes Blacks. Blacks are the world heavyweight champions of rape, especially gang rape, but they’re not so good at writing things down (too busy making history and inventing things, you see). So, the Uncle Toms at Ebony bought into the White Supremacist version of history, and gave hispanics credit for what is really a Black achievement (greatest rape in all of history, not Columbus’ voyage).

  29. Che Guava 说:
    @Anonymous

    I am a great admirer of Mr. Shamir’s writing, although I very much doubt that you are, from your rushed nonsense, would know.

    Goodbye, good riddance, don’t come back until you achieve a little consciousness.

  30. Rich 说:
    @Anonymous

    So basically you’ve found no errors with the article, you just don’t want Mr Kersey to discuss race in a manner with which you disagree? Interesting. You might find this hard to believe, but sometimes it’s good to read opinions you don’t agree with, to delve deeper into issues, sometimes beliefs you have taken for granted for years turn out to be wrong.

  31. Svigor 说:

    But a square jawed, blue eyed white man can set foot on Mars if we spend the trillions. It is a solvable problem, and one which will be immensely satisfying to solve.

    More space exploration, more science, more technology. Ad Astra

    The trouble with space exploration is that it could lead to space colonization. And space colonization will lead to the preservation and expansion of the White race. The galaxy might even end up hideously White. That would be very, very bad.

    I put most of the blame for America’s downfall on Anglos and Jews.

    The thing to remember is that insofar as one is successful in blaming Anglos and Jews, it will lead to Anglos changing their behavior from being against their own interests, to in favor, while it will lead Jews to changing their behavior from being more in their own interests, to being less (if it changes their behavior at all).

    Heck, it might even lead to organized Anglo institutions, similar to what we see with organized Jewry.

    Put another way: cui bono?

    It is worth noting that the FANGS, Microsoft, Oracle, Intel, Cisco etc did not even exist when the Civil Rights Acts were passed and yet this entire technological revolution passed the negro by. Jesse Jackson was demanding US auto dealerships be given to blacks even as the Japanese auto companies were eating American auto makers lunch. The situation is no better today as blacks whine about being excluded from the Academy Awards while Hollywood is dying

    On the contrary, your example suggests the situation is 许多 better today.

  32. mtn cur 说:

    在福克斯选举的少数好的结果中,(与希拉里的比较很好)我可以留下我的枪支,所以可以通过说我的妈妈是3000名有数学学位的白人女性之一,以及500拥有数学学位的黑人女性,她们为 NACA 的军用飞机设计进行了空气动力学工程计算的硬拷贝,之后它成为了被称为​​ NASA 的公关机构,表演了诸如登月之类的特技。 这是在黑人被教导他们太愚蠢而无法进行微积分和代数或出现工作之前。 任何不能完成这项工作的人都会被送去公共汽车站,在那场战争中没有例外。 尽管如此,我还是很想知道如何强奸月亮,这肯定是变态的。 从太空计划中获得很好的研究成果,我发现太空探索的整个领域,包括天文学,更接近职业球等娱乐活动,因此是一种浪费,授予照片比 NFL 球员更漂亮,但是什么你能期待这样一个社会,即使是受过教育的白人也太愚蠢,无法用五年级的数学来预测,把所有蓝领工作都送到中国来大大改善步兵的招募,更不用说升级军队的财富转移了由于我们,华尔街和沃尔玛为中国购买的所有漂亮的军事硬件,几乎已经过时了。

  33. 作为一名黑人女博士生,仍然会有人因为我皮肤中黑色素的含量而怀疑我的可信度,

    根据我的经验,黑人女性往往非常自恋、只顾自己:她们想成为电影明星、天才教授、深刻的作家,但完全缺乏任何实质内容。他们永远不会成为任何伟大的事情,因为他们认为自己已经成为了伟大的人(我是一名黑人女博士生,并且会将任何批评视为种族主义而置之不理。他们通常以这种奇怪的半文盲浮夸的风格写作,例如:

    这篇文章怀疑隐藏人物角色的真实性,或者更确切地说,是点击诱饵的糟糕尝试——正在滴着白色的眼泪。

    别说是明目张胆的虚伪,她连一个有凝聚力的想法都无法组织起来;但这并不能阻止她被谄媚的婴儿潮一代白人教授称为“天才”。

    • 同意: Triumph104
    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Anonymous Nephew
  34. marty 说:
    @unit472

    re shells

    don’t forget Merrill Lynch.

  35. Rurik 说:

    I do not endorse this video, but am (reluctantly) posting it for what it’s worth, and what it shows about America

  36. MarkinLA 说:
    @El Dato

    Same as every engineer’s contributions in the whole system, really. That’s the way it works.

    Yeah but nobody bothered to make a movie out of my stunning achievement of writing that random number generating procedure when I worked at Hughes.

    That is the difference – take some innocuous nothing event and make a big movie about it trying to brainwash people into believing the world was hanging in the balance if not for the brilliance of our hero.

  37. MarkinLA 说:

    but your article made me understand that as a Black Female Doctoral student, there will still be those who doubt my credibility due to the amount of melanin in my skin.

    Well no doubt given your lack of mentioning in what, you are probably getting one in Black Studies. I would rate a PhD in Black Studies the equivalent of a GED in a predominantly white state.

    • 回复: @anonymous
    , @MarkinLA
  38. Discard 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Spend some time among normal Blacks. Not the cherry picked Blacks that colleges compete so strenuously for, but Blacks in Black neighborhoods. The IQ “crapola” you denigrate is believed because it serves to explain the phenomenon of Black wretchedness better than any other theory. 50 years of expensive uplift hasn’t worked.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  39. Discard 说:
    @jacques sheete

    This site is totally focused on Black Americans in a negative way? Totally? Mike Whitney? Gustavo Arellano? Patrick Cockburn? Tom Engelhart? The Saker? John Paul Roberts? Eamonn Fingleton? Phillip Giraldi? Peter Lee? Etc, etc, etc?

    You are sounding hysterical.

  40. Discard 说:
    @jacques sheete

    My error. I had intended that previous response for Aquarius3.

  41. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @MarkinLA

    Yet you’ve still not mastered how to properly reply to another commenter….

    Why did you even bother to post such witless, presumptuous junk that only validates BFD’s assumptions?

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
    , @Discard
  42. Alden 说:

    I remember the official black negativity to the space program very well. Almost weekly some magazine or newspaper printed some NAACP press release yammering about how the money should be directed to the non profit pimps like Sharpton, Jackson, black panthers and the rest of the non profit parasites.

    Regular blacks as opposed to the professional blacks who made a living out of being blacks didn’t care.

    • 回复: @David In TN
  43. Inertiller 说:

    《摩羯座 1》是一部由非裔美国人 OJ 辛普森主演的阴谋惊悚片,该主题是基于政府/美国宇航局决定假装人类飞往火星的决定,因为价格标签。

    将此与现实生活中的“预算问题”进行对比,在现实生活中,美国宇航局最好假装航天飞机计划的成功,而是让宇航员送死,其中包括物理学家罗恩·麦克奈尔,显然也是一位优秀的音乐家。

    同样的战争暴利团体帮助自己获得太空计划的权利和福利——他们会声称这是为了人类的利益——毫无疑问。

    MIC阶级的共产主义/社会主义/财富再分配体系享受着肮脏的政府合同体系,该体系充斥着企业金库,但他们很快就会谴责贫民窟的施舍。有人敢双重标准吗?

    我们这里有两个方面的抱怨,经不起任何认真考虑。一方面似乎是在加强基于种族的尊重——父母对孩子的偏爱会对家庭动态产生负面影响——但对于整个国家而言。然后我们就会抱怨,同样痴迷于种族,抱怨拥有合适东西的合适人却没有得到应有的认可。

    问问自己 – 这里有什么意义?网上娱乐?我倾向于相信,任何人,无论种族,在正确的地点和正确的时间,接受适当的培训、指导、住房、暴利、社会主义、施舍、工作保障、衣服、住房和养老金,都能够向月球发射导弹。那时我们根本不在乎我们给自己写的支票有多少钱。如今,“让我们去火星”的企业福利人群似乎对一个腐烂的国家也没有太大的问题。

    • 同意: utu
    • 回复: @MarkinLA
    , @Negrolphin Pool
  44. robt 说:
    @Anonymous

    《每日钟声》最近还推测核武器是一个骗局。或许。可能吧。
    嗯,这真是一种解脱。所有的焦虑都是徒劳的。

    • 同意: syonredux
    • 回复: @Ximenes
    , @attilathehen
  45. Alden 说:
    @oh its just me too

    应该是:虽然我是黑人博士生但是还是有那些

  46. MarkinLA 说:
    @MarkinLA

    It seems an idiot has responded to me.

    I am not responding to another commenter. I am responding to the letter in the article so the reply to another commenter button does not apply.

    I am not validating her stupidity, it speaks for itself. As for my comment on a PhD in Black Studies, perhaps I was wrong, I should have said middle school graduation certificate in a predominantly white state instead of GED. Are you a butt-hurt Black Studies major?

  47. MarkinLA 说:
    @Inertiller

    我倾向于相信任何人,无论种族,在正确的地点和正确的时间,经过适当的训练,

    I’m inclined to believe that you don’t have a degree in the hard sciences, engineering or mathematics because that is the only way somebody could think like you.

    • 回复: @utu
  48. Alfred1860 说:
    @Anon

    “Space City”是他们的另一首歌,意思是阿拉巴马州亨茨维尔。副歌的第一行:

    太空城距我一小时路程
    距月球最近距离仅一小时
    就像这里的任何人都会做的那样。

    阶级划分是一个远远超过我们可能遇到的任何种族问题的问题。

    • 回复: @Kyle McKenna
  49. CCZ 说:

    Some basic research into CSUN doctoral programs might be appropriate to avoid incorrect assumptions (and arguments) about what PhD is involved:

    “California State University, Northridge (CSUN) offers over 60 master’s degrees and two doctoral programs. CSUN is a diverse university community of 40,000 students and more than 4,000 faculty and staff, sited on a 356-acre campus. CSUN is located in the heart of Los Angeles’ San Fernando Valley.”

    博士学位

    教育领导,教育学博士

    Physical Therapy, D.P.T

    Details about both programs, courses, requirements, conferred degree at:

    http://www.csun.edu/research-graduate-studies/graduate-programs-0

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
    , @Triumph104
    , @Anonymous
  50. MarkinLA 说:
    @anonymous

    It seems an idiot has responded to me.

    I am not responding to another commenter. I am responding to the letter in the article so the reply to another commenter button does not apply.

    I am not validating her stupidity, it speaks for itself. As for my comment on a PhD in Black Studies, perhaps I was wrong, I should have said middle school graduation certificate in a predominantly white state instead of GED. Are you a butt-hurt Black Studies major?

    • 回复: @anonymous
    , @Dissident
  51. @oh its just me too

    Surprised no one’s mentioned that a/c/t Tom Wolfe in The Right Stuff, as far back as Kennedy there had been pressure to get a black astronaut ‘up there’ – Kennedy sent civil rights lawyers from the Justice Department to the Aerospace Research Pilot School to pressure them into picking Ed Dwight for one of the 11 NASA slots, which would go to the top 11 pilots. ARPS was run by Chuck Yeager, who refused to fiddle the rankings (Dwight was #14 out of 26 trainees), and the compromise reached was that the top 14 rather than top 11 would go to NASA. (Dwight never went into space, and became a sculptor)

    There are real black female doctoral students in STEM subjects though. I’m sure her skin colour didn’t do her any harm with the BBC when they chose her to co-front a science program, but this lady seems to have the academic and engineering pedigree, though her presenting style’s a bit over-enthusiastic for my taste. Her alma mater Imperial College is one of the world’s top science unis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Aderin-Pocock

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
  52. J.Ross 说: • 您的网站
    @Anonymous

    Please cite all the times that the Saker has talked about black Americans. Take as much time as you need.

    • 回复: @Dissident
  53. Ximenes 说:
    @robt

    发生在长崎和广岛的事情不是骗局。 相比之下,在“登陆”月球近 50 年后——或者至少在电视上看过那个事件——我们由于某种原因似乎不能再这样做了。 为什么不? 你能想象如果埃德蒙希拉里在 50 年代攀登珠穆朗玛峰,而今天似乎没有人能够复制它吗?

  54. MarkinLA 说:
    @CCZ

    I have to say that while those are definitely a step above Black Studies, they ain’t Theoretical Physics. I think “Education” majors have the lowest entrance test scores at just about every university and are a major source of our problems in schools. At least somebody with a Physical Therapy degree can do something useful.

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
  55. MarkinLA 说:
    @Anonymous Nephew

    The problem is not that there are no blacks in NASA or there are none who are competent. The problem is the constant attempt to shove down everybody’s throat the idea that poor dumb whitey just couldn’t do anything if it wasn’t for the very few blacks on these programs keeping everything going.

    When I worked at Hughes, I worked with a number of black engineers and a manager. None of them were incompetent or needed any special hand holding to do their jobs. I never had a problem with their technical capability or their work ethic. It is just that even with Hughes doing everything it could to recruit blacks – we took them from New York, Tennessee, Florida, anywhere we could get them and paid their moving expenses to California they probably didn’t account for more than 1% of the engineering staff. I think we had more white female engineers than blacks. We definitely had more Asian female engineers than blacks.

    • 回复: @Kyle McKenna
  56. MarkinLA 说:
    @Ximenes

    We can do it if we want and with much larger ships. It just isn’t worth funding. There is nothing to learn about on the moon that can’t be done with expendable payloads and there is no way to use the moon militarily.

    We have reusable space vehicles now – something not in existence in 1969. We could easily configure the components at the space station for a rocket that would carry more people, get there faster, and not be dependent on using gravity sling-shots.

  57. syonredux 说:
    @Ximenes

    发生在长崎和广岛的事情不是骗局

    How do we know that it was done with nukes……

    由于某种原因,我们似乎不能再这样做了。 为什么不? 你能想象如果埃德蒙希拉里在 50 年代攀登珠穆朗玛峰,而今天似乎没有人能够复制它吗?

    Nobody’s nuked a city since Hiroshima and Nagasaki……

  58. uslabor 说:
    @syonredux

    你怎么知道你的智商高于83.3?

    • 回复: @syonredux
  59. @Alden

    I was a college student at the time of the Moon landing and “Black Leaders” were decrying the space program regularly. They demanded the money be spent on themselves.

    • 回复: @Kyle McKenna
  60. @Doctor Zarkov

    So up to a certain point in your life you didn’t know humans are envious, and their individual envy to outgroups grows reinforced when they are joined in a group?

    They who have a strong psychological attachment to the myth of equality (you would be forgiven for thinking this springs from low self-esteem or outright lack of any), must fight distinction and every chance for it, since the only reachable equality is in the absence of merit and skill.

    Some “sociologists” have written profusely to highlight how the work of J. S. Bach was not the fruit of genius — there is no such thing as genius — but a product of the concomitance of social, economic, cultural circumstances (which wouldn’t be totally false of itself, provided the decisive contribution of genius were not denied).

    • 回复: @Doctor Zarkov
  61. @Anonymous

    I am disgusted with UNZ and I wont be back.

    Well, bye..

  62. @TheJester

    Those who tell the stories rule society

    A society like ours that enforces Political Correctness in social and racial issues should be a suspect society … radically suspect.

    Taboos are established by those who have the power, in their own service.

    What can change, moving across time and space, is who has the power, and the taboos they help their own rule with.
    But if there is society, there must be power hierarchy, and if there is power hierarchy, there must be taboos, things that cannot be said and, more important, cannot be thought, because if they were thought by a sufficient number, some of them will say them, and this will be an hindrance to the rulers or even an essential threat to their rule.
    Where there is power, there are things that can’t be said and shouldn’t be thought: they are shaped by the particular interests of that particular power.

    If you are against this, you are against every human society (this is my stance).
    What I mostly see is people who are against a particular set-up, and feed themselves the illusion that upending it will establish justice, equality, and other illusions.
    That’s tales for the masses, whose help is needed for an effective overhaul of the present system: when you want to make a revolution, tell the masses paradise awaits them once it takes place.
    The others shouldn’t believe them.
    Marx was reported to deride some fellow intellectuals in his circle who actually took his theory’s promises at face value.

    Back to your claims: no power and social order has ever been based on reality — or maybe monarchy based on kings being chosen by Gods were?
    The only real question is whom, and how many in a polity, the myths taught as reality help, and whom they hinder or harm (hint: they usually help those who have the power, and make those without power more acceptant of keeping to have none).
    New myths are used to obtain a power shift.

    Chasms between reality and belief are producive of neurosis and cognitive dissonance, rather than psychosis.
    The meek, narcissistic Goodwhites who believe, for example, what they have been made to believe about IQ, and IQ & race, suffer from neurosis: they have to deal with the clash between what they see (and know) and what they want to believe. This loads their mind, of course, as you can see by their reactions when somebody else states what they too know yet do not know.
    Their fight against the evidence-claimant is the fight to keep their mental balance safe. They aren’t suppressing the truth-claimant voice, but instead that usually-repressed voice in their own mind that whispers It is as he says.
    (Thinking of the phrase 政治上的正确, what is its real meaning if not: set of thing with political (= “social”, in our time more than ever previously) that doesn’t disturb the powers that be.
    政治上正确 is all what is not taboo. A tag like that of correctness is a strong encouragement for normally conformistic people not to deviate from the line.

    • 同意: Dissident
    • 回复: @Negrolphin Pool
  63. Phil 说:
    @jacques sheete

    In the now famous (and published) survey of high-level intelligence researchers by Rindermann and Becker, Steve Sailer and Anatoly Karlin–two prominent purveyors at this website of what you call IQ crapola–were cited as being among the most reliable and accurate writers on IQ research and related topics. The New York Times, The Economist, and other mainstream outlets were highlighted as being among the LEAST RELIABLE OR ACCURATE (i.e., they engage in fake reporting on the state of intelligence research).

  64. @jacques sheete

    I watched a black woman smack her kid across the mouth yesterday. The kid was maybe 4. The mother was swearing like a drunk sailor and when her friemd said “dont do that, some one will call the cops”, she replied, “i dont give a FUCK!”. Now, if that doesn’t showcase the issues in black america and make you wonder about this dysfunctional race, then clearly you dont want to see it.

  65. syonredux 说:
    @uslabor

    你怎么知道你的智商高于83.3?

    Well, that would make me 16.7 points below the White American mean…..Which seems a tad unlikely…..

  66. @Ximenes

    China and india have both landed rovers on the surface of the moon. Why send a person to do such an extraordinarily dangerous job when a robot can do it better and safer? (before you say “then why didnt america send a robot if its easier and better?”, take a second and answer that yourself. And if you can’t, well, you probably should just stay quiet.)

    • 回复: @Ximenes
  67. @robt

    Here is a clip about the Japanese bombings. http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2015/08/09/the-priests-who-survived-the-atomic-bomb/

    As to the moon landing. To find out if it’s real or not, the moon landing deniers will have to meet with the makers of the Hidden Figures movie. I bet the deniers are cucks and will agree that not only was there moon landing, but that black women were the ones who pulled it off.

  68. utu 说:
    @MarkinLA

    “I’m inclined to believe that you don’t have a degree in the hard sciences…”

    I am afraid it is the other way around. You seem to be too much at awe with “degree in the hard sciences, engineering or mathematics”. You do not know what does it take. Yes, it takes a lot of work, good attitude, ambition and help from good teachers, mentors and tutors but average intelligence will suffice. It is not really a big deal.

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
    , @syonredux
    , @Discard
  69. utu 说:
    @mtn cur

    “the educated white folks are too stupid to use 5th grade math to predict that recruitment for the infantry is greatly improved by sending all the blue collar jobs to China, not to mention the wealth transfer of upgrading a military verging on obsolete, due to all the nice military hardware that we, Wall Street, and Walmart bought for China.”

    究竟!

  70. @Inertiller

    But for some reason it’s just cooler watching an F-22 do a tail slide than seeing 10 blue-bandanna’d dindus running full-bore at you yelling “git em, git dat f***in hawnkah”.

    Maybe war contractor welfare is morally equivalent to baby mama welfare, but the latter is at an aesthetic disadvantage at a minimum. The internet and 757’s are really cool. Violent felons aren’t as cool, unless you’re an aspiring baby mama.

  71. @wow

    你怎么有8个孩子却有19个宝贝爸爸?如果孩子死了或者流产了,那个男人就不是婴儿爸爸(没有婴儿可以当爸爸)。或者你是说他们的数学能力太差了,无法比较两个因素并得出相似的数字?

    不管怎样,黑人文化和黑人社会都是毒瘤,正在摧毁美国。他们鼓励自己的孩子成为水蛭​​,并对整个系统征税。

    (在我被称为种族主义者之前,我住在洛杉矶的一个贫穷郊区,我看到黑人每天过着他们的生活。我看到缺乏克制,缺乏道德,缺乏性格和同情心。这并不是因为他们很穷。我穷人。我知道西班牙裔和亚洲人,嗯,一个家庭,很穷,我们都尊重并理解生活在一个社会中是什么。大多数黑人缺乏这一点。他们从来没有被教导过。而那些真正理解的人比最种族主义的三K党成员更鄙视黑人。他们看到了他们的虚伪,他们看到了他们的人民的傲慢和顽固,他们不融入这个国家,成为这个国家其他人的眼中钉。我有几个黑人朋友这完全同意我所说的。天哪,我的黑人邻居今天早些时候告诉我他讨厌黑鬼。我告诉他在我儿子面前要注意他说的话,他脸红了并道歉,说他没有意识到那个小家伙在那里,他只是对他的人民似乎认为没问题的事情感到非常羞愧和尴尬。)

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Truth
  72. @anonymous

    “Just let black women have some fun. Live and let live.”

    So lieing, misrepresenting facts and shaming anyone that questions it is ok? I think black women have more then enough fun, look how many black kids dont have fathers and most of their siblings are only half related to them….. Live and let live only works when no one is being hurt. Allowing a population to make up their history and rewrite established history for their own egos is wrong on so many levels.

  73. @Discard

    The IQ “crapola” you denigrate is believed because it serves to explain the phenomenon of Black wretchedness better than any other theory.

    没有

    It serves to justify the usual wanker’s bigotry. 99% of what’s written about it here is clueless drivel. Makes about as much sense as Obomba’s “Peace” prize or George Bush’s Hawvawd and Yayyyyle duhgrees.

    • 同意: utu
    • 回复: @Discard
  74. anon • 免责声明 说:

    If you guys think the historical revisionism about blacks is bad with these dumb movies like HIDDEN FIGURES and RED TAILS, you should see how it is here in CANADA. We have this idiotic “black history month” even though the black population in Canada was microscopically small, a mere few tens of thousands. Just reading my local paper today and the “black history month” articles are nauseating. Pure revisionism. One writer complains about the traditional “Euro-centric” view of Canadian history. Maybe that is because Canada’s population was over 98% white as recently as 1970.

  75. 了解更多 凯莎·罗杰斯,为美国和世界文明的生存而更新太空计划的主要政治倡导者。

    https://larouchepac.com/space

  76. MarkinLA 说:
    @utu

    but average intelligence will suffice

    Uh no. Every list that correlates IQ with degree usually shows the top of the list being STEM degrees. Now somebody with an average intelligence probably could get Cs in college level physics if he spent all day studying. However, most would give up and become Sociology or grievance study majors.

    http://www.statisticbrain.com/iq-estimates-by-intended-college-major/

  77. syonredux 说:
    @utu

    I’m inclined to believe that you don’t have a degree in the hard sciences…”

    I am afraid it is the other way around. You seem to be too much at awe with “degree in the hard sciences, engineering or mathematics”. You do not know what does it take. Yes, it takes a lot of work, good attitude, ambition and help from good teachers, mentors and tutors but average intelligence will suffice.

    Doesn’t that rather depend on how one defines “average intelligence?” For example, the Black American mean is 85. Could a person with an IQ of 85 get a phd in physics or mathematics?

  78. Discard 说:
    @anonymous

    People who have PhDs do not say, “I have a PhD” without saying what field it is. One might as well say “I am sixty two” without telling me whether it’s years, inches, or IQ.

    • 回复: @Triumph104
    , @Truth
  79. Discard 说:
    @utu

    People of average intelligence struggle with first year algebra. No, average intelligence will not suffice to become an engineer.

    • 回复: @utu
  80. Discard 说:
    @jacques sheete

    I take this to mean that you have not and have no intention of living or working with typical Blacks. Is that because you’re afraid of getting beaten up or because you’re afraid of seeing your fantasies evaporate?

    • 巨魔: jacques sheete
    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  81. Olorin 说:
    @Triumph104

    Not that most of these jobs are terribly advanced–many are managerial jobs for starters, and the project operational protocols would have been handed down by others–even if they are at some level technical, and that’s fine by me.

    But I imagine your list would star the eyes of the innumerate, science-devoid masses who believe things like “I would choose to take a fictional portrayal of real life people over complete erasure any day.” (Some of us prefer the truth.)

    I doubt the girl who wrote that screed to Mr. Kersey could supply the chemical formula for hydrazine. Never mind describe any one of the ways of synthesizing it. (Which Louis B. Grant likely could and these fictional magic math ladies could not.)

    Miss White clearly doesn’t care about that science stuff so much as myths and legends that retcon actual history. After all her “doctoral” program is in psychology–the mushiest of the soft “sciences.” Apparently she focuses on the abnormal psychology of people who stuff their mouths with too much food to fill the holes in their minds and hearts.

    These movies are pitched to the left half of the bell curve. That’s how Hollywood–like the Ed Biz–makes its money. Real science is done by a fraction of humans for the good of the rest…who resent those trying to benefit them. Movies are for those who prefer mythic worlds to the real cosmos.

    • 回复: @Triumph104
  82. @mtn cur

    Importing Asian Legal Immigrants is more of a job theft program than exporting trinket assembly jobs to China….same consequences for Native Born White American Teenage Males:canon fodder for Greater Israel.

    Paul Kersey remains silent on the predatory Asian Legal Immigrants…..

  83. @Madhava reader

    No, I’m pretty sure it’s more simple than that. I did not read sources such as Ebony and the mainstream media did not recapitulate them, at least not frequently, at the time. No need to invoke group envy, sociologists or J.S. Bach.

  84. @Ximenes

    “…we for some reason can’t seem to do it again.”

    We can’t do it again, because any leadership in this area, either through stupidity or political correctness, has us worried about outreach to Moslems vs. doing more science and engineering and keeping the infrastructure that brought us into space for some years. That infrastructure included a lot of white male engineers, technicians and computer people, along with the hardware. How are you going to get that back, anti-affirmative action (we call it triple-A)?

    I think you missed the gist of Kersey’s article, Jose, that there is no money for human space exploration due to it having been diverted to “social programs”, in amounts that reach into, as Carl Sagan would have put it, “trillions and trillions”.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  85. @Alfred1860

    阶级划分是一个远远超过我们可能遇到的任何种族问题的问题。

    Which is why the owners of our MSM are so fanatically invested in maintaining racial strife. (“Divide and Conquer!”)

    If people instead began to focus on economic/class divisions, a much broader solidarity might form, and those MSM owners might suddenly feel…脆弱...

    • 回复: @utu
    , @Wizard of Oz
  86. @MarkinLA

    I can tell you about “Education” majors, LA Mark. It was the last day of the Climatology somehow-graduate-level course, and the two Ed majors remarked how they enjoyed the class and were looking forward to teaching the kids how the dew condensed off the grass as the sun came up.

    Condensation is the opposite of evaporation, and after a whole semester of a lot of semi-technical stuff taught by a very experienced climate guy, using those terms day-in and day-out, this is the crap ya gotta hear – and, if you’re wondering, everyone got at least a B. Disgusting.

  87. @Madhava reader

    Back to your claims: no power and social order has ever been based on reality — or maybe monarchy based on kings being chosen by Gods were?
    The only real question is whom, and how many in a polity, the myths taught as reality help, and whom they hinder or harm (hint: they usually help those who have the power, and make those without power more acceptant of keeping to have none).
    New myths are used to obtain a power shift.

    But maybe a reality-based social order has never really been tried yet. With modern statistical logic, there is a means of basing societal decisions on truth, or at least empiricism and rationality. This will, at times, be imprecise. But, overall, the modern ability to collect vast quantities of data and powerfully analyze them means that, at least, governments can be informed by empirically-based beliefs and rational conclusions from them.

    Of course, society isn’t some simplistic bivariate maximization problem. The goals have to be defined and cui bono will always be a valid and contentious question. But it’s completely unnecessary and ultimately, both unsustainable and unstable to continue governing based on demonstrable falsehoods like universal equality or even that hate crimes can only be perpetrated by one specific group against another and not vice versa.

  88. @MarkinLA

    People simply can’t figure out that nuance you’re describing, and MSM propaganda doesn’t help. Yes, there are intelligent and competent people of every stripe. But the 比例–well, we’d better not talk about 那些.

    When PBS was filming a segment in my graduate laboratory, we had no black people in the place. Sorry! However, we did have several asians and even a couple females so guess who ended up on the segment when it aired?

    The sad thing was that we had to coach one of them when she was being interviewed. The coaching–like the white males who were doing it–ended up on the proverbial cutting-room floor.

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
  89. @Delinquent Snail

    ... (before i get called racist, i live in a poor suburb of LA and i see blacks living their lives everyday. I see the lack of restraint, lack of morals, lack of character and compassion. And its not because they are poor. Im poor. I know hispanics and asians, well one family, that are poor, and we all have respect and understand what it is to live in a society. most Black people lack that. They are never taught it. And the ones that do understand despise blacks more then the most racist member of the KKK. They see the hypocrisy, they see the arrogance and stubornness of their people to NOT fit in and to be a thorn in the side of the rest of the country. I have several black friends that agree wholly to what im saying. Hell, my black neighbor … =

    Why are you worried about getting called a racist, Mr Snail? You are a racist because i live in a poor suburb of LA and i see blacks living their lives everyday. I see the lack of restraint, lack of morals, lack of character and compassion. And its not because they are poor. Im poor. I know hispanics and asians, well one family, that are poor, and we all have respect and understand what it is to live in a society. most Black people lack that. They are never taught it. And the ones that do understand despise blacks more then the most racist member of the KKK. They see the hypocrisy, they see the arrogance and stubornness of their people to NOT fit in and to be a thorn in the side of the rest of the country. I have several black friends that agree wholly to what im saying. Hell, my black neighbor …=

    (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  90. @David In TN

    Which is why we never managed to get the utilities on our downtown streets relocated underground. Once we made the decision to do so, ‘immigrant advocates’ successfully campaigned to have the money spent on immigrants instead.

    How can we spend money improving the urban landscape when we have so many needy immigrants? We need to spend that money on food, clothing, shelter, schooling, etc etc.

    Also, we need more immigrants! Which is, as they say, why we can’t have nice things. Glad I moved from that place but I notice that these problems tend to follow us around.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  91. utu 说:
    @Kyle McKenna

    “If people instead began to focus on economic/class divisions, a much broader solidarity might form, and those MSM owners might suddenly feel…vulnerable…”

    Exactly. Makes you wonder on which team creatures like Paul Kearsey play. The same goes for Steve Sailer crowd and many of commenters here. They think that by breaking some politically correct taboos about race they are exceptionally brave and subversive, while actually they are just another kind of cucks. Useful idiots or paid provocateurs. Tertium non datur.

  92. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @MarkinLA

    Hey, you’re right, and I was wrong, about your use of the reply button. I seem to recall this as an aspect of our back and forth a year or so ago WRT presidential politics, but that may have been someone else. So please accept my apology on this.

    But I still think that your relentless contributions to this site add relatively little of value. You often come across as angry & racially obsessed — one of several here who is thus divided, and conquered. (I tried to reach out with my use of “BFD,” but that may have eluded you as you once again had to turn someone who criticizes your assertion into The Other.) You’ll all probably keep it up, but I wanted you to know what I (and, I expect, many readers) think about your life’s work here at Unz.

  93. KenH 说:

    Most people know that the main figure of the movie, Katherine Johnson, was an octoroon and to the untrained eye would probably appear white. My employer posted pictures of a few others to “celebrate black history” and they look like mulattoes and quadroons. I did not see one coal black negress.

    These ladies played a very small role performing redundant tasks but after a lot of hyping and embellishing by Jewish Hollywood it’s made to appear that they were indispensable and the wind beneath NASA’s wings. All to boost the fragile self esteem of negresses like the one who e-mailed Paul Kersey.

    I’ve only seen previews (won’t spend money for black supremacist propaganda) and in one scene a negress is showing up a class of wide eyed, gape mouthed white males as she adroitly solves a complicated math problem. In another scene a negress sarcastically intones that “if I were a white male I’d already be an engineer”. As if white males are simply handed engineering degrees for being white. Gimme an effing break.

    White males pioneered the field of engineering and their accomplishments in that field are too numerous to mention. The movie just insults white people and amounts to a gross distortion of the historical record. But the new, cultural Marxist America being forged needs myths and this movie does its part.

    Most people with a modicum of intelligence will recognize it for the crap and revisionist history that it represents. The handiwork of the black race is all around us. See Camden and Newark, NJ, Detroit, Memphis, Chicongo, any black American city or neigborhood, Haiti and every black ruled, black majority nation not to mention their violent crime rates. That is a more accurate representation of black achievement than the mythical rendering by Hollywood in 隐藏图 and other works of propaganda.

    • 回复: @Kyle McKenna
    , @Truth
    , @turtle
    , @joef
  94. Ximenes 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    攀登珠穆朗玛峰也确实没有意义,但人们一遍又一遍地这样做。 为什么要打扰? - 这很危险,而且那里没有我们不知道的事情。 原因当然是因为 在那。

    如果我们真的在 69 年登月,家庭(有经济能力)就会去月球过春假。

  95. Triumph104 说:
    @CCZ

    Thanks. I didn’t bother to look myself because it never occurred to me that CSUN only had two doctoral programs.

    About half of black doctorates are earned in the field of education. Shaquille O’Neal has a doctorate in education.

    Jesse Jackson’s baby mama, Karin Stanford, is a professor at CSUN.

    Karin Stanford is a professor of Political Science and Africana Studies at California State University, Northridge. She earned a Doctorate of Philosophy in Political Science from Howard University and specializes in African American Politics and International Relations. After graduating from Howard University, Dr. Stanford received a two-year Post-Doctoral Fellowship from the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill and later served as a Congressional Black Caucus Fellow under Congressman Sanford Bishop of Georgia. In 2010, she was elected to Chair the Pan African Studies Department and served in that position until Fall of 2013. As a scholar, Dr. Stanford has received several awards and recognition for her publications (see list below.)

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-stanford-98690a21

  96. Ron Unz 说:
    @Anonymous

    The real myth is the moon landing itself, which underlies all these additional myths like the myth that black women were somehow instrumental to the moon landing.. The reason they’re so comfortable with adding these additional myths like Hidden Figures is because the whole thing is based on a myth. Once you’ve concocted a giant fairy tale, it’s no big deal to add another chapter to the fairy tale.

    One of the benefits of having my webzine is that it frequently makes me aware of the most extraordinary notions, many of which I never otherwise would have encountered in a million years. That certainly includes the theory of a “Moon Landing Hoax,” apparently promoted by several commenters.

    I’ll admit I’m pretty skeptical, but then again, I’ve been mistaken about other things in the past.

    However, here’s a very simple question. During the late 1960s, the Russians also had a very energetic space program and they were in a fierce competition for international prestige with America. If the US had never really landed on the Moon, but just concocted it as a PR hoax, wouldn’t the Russians have known that, due to their satellites and telescopes? And wouldn’t they have at least tried to “spill the beans” in the media and thereby totally humiliate America? If not, why not?

    Sometimes, the simplest questions are the most useful…

  97. JackOH 说:
    @TheJester

    TheJester, you’re probably right.

    Even very bright people in responsible positions will publicly adopt “non-factness” or “counter-ontology” in their world views and even decision-making. Ex: an able woman who claimed American Indian ancestry insisted that American Indians “invented” democracy. Was she signaling something? Creating “space”? Therapeutically stroking herself? Ex: a university administrator announced university-funded bus service from dorms to shopping centers, completely ignoring that the route was already well-served by the local transit authority, and that his plan would cannibalize existing routes and threaten government subsidies.

    I can readily imagine a satirical popular history of America 1945-2015 in which White Euro-males make only bit appearances at best, or are shown as obstructionists on the road to Black and feminist empowerment. Trouble is satire, I’m confident, will be taken as historiography.

    I can only imagine the noxious political and psychological leverage 隐藏图 will exert on some minds. (I’m very much okay with appropriate recognition of how Blacks have contributed to America.)

  98. @Discard

    I take this to mean that you have not and have no intention of living or working with typical Blacks. Is that because you’re afraid of getting beaten up or because you’re afraid of seeing your fantasies evaporate?

    Take it any way you want it.

    FYI, no one comes here to read your drivelous personal evals about me. Anyway, I’ve spent some time in the military with plenty of “typical” blacks and they are no worse than their pale counterparts. In fact, I found most to be easier to get along with than your “typical” hillbilly, white trash or “typical” white officer. I prefer the company of typical blacks much more than that of your pierced, tattooed, “Goth’”or other white freaks such as entitled, opinionated, smarmy, mouthy, aggressive, hostile, obese, do-gooder wenches, which description fits around 80% of them overall.

    You can also take that to mean that I have no intention of living or working with typical politicians or bureaucrats, either.

    Now, go and have a nice day and don’t expect me to answer any more of your trash.

  99. MarkinLA 说:
    @anonymous

    one of several here who is thus divided, and conquered.

    This doesn’t make any sense but please tell me how living in a PC fantasy world makes one unconquered and recognizing the world as it is make one conquered?

    I tried to reach out with my use of “BFD,” but that may have eluded you as you once again had to turn someone who criticizes your assertion into The Other.

    这到底是什么意思?

    I am trying to figure out if anything in your post makes any sense and I can’t.

    Maybe instead of using anonymous you should make a handle and continue to use it.

  100. @utu

    In other words, you two cucks want to keep importing POTUS Chelsea Clinton’s Asian “American” Democratic Voting Bloc….TREASON IS THE TEASON!!!

  101. Triumph104 说:
    @Olorin

    After all her “doctoral” program is in psychology–the mushiest of the soft “sciences.” Apparently she focuses on the abnormal psychology of people who stuff their mouths with too much food to fill the holes in their minds and hearts.

    Where did you get psychology from? White attends Cal State Northridge. The only doctoral programs are education and physical therapy.

  102. @Achmed E. Newman

    … there is no money for human space exploration due to it having been diverted to “social programs”

    I hope he’s including such social programs as bankster and corporate bailouts, foreign bribes and trillions to the Pentagon cesspit of corruption. How many TRIllions remains unaccounted for by now?

    Note both the date and the author…

    “对手离家更近了; 是五角大楼的官僚机构……”

    –唐纳德·拉姆斯菲尔德 九月 10, 2001

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
  103. MarkinLA 说:
    @anonymous

    You often come across as angry & racially obsessed

    What is “racially obsessed” since if you go through my history comments on race represent about 5% and many are in response to the nonsense in “Ask a Mexican” or Sailer’s or Debyshire’s blog commenting on our PC stupidity.

    Maybe if you didn’t hide behind anonymous we could judge your contributions too.

    • 同意: Kyle McKenna
  104. syonredux 说:
    @utu

    “If people instead began to focus on economic/class divisions, a much broader solidarity might form, and those MSM owners might suddenly feel…vulnerable…”

    Exactly. Makes you wonder on which team creatures like Paul Kearsey play. The same goes for Steve Sailer crowd and many of commenters here. They think that by breaking some politically correct taboos about race they are exceptionally brave and subversive, while actually they are just another kind of cucks. Useful idiots or paid provocateurs. Tertium non datur.

    Other way around, I’m afraid. They understand that mass immigration by dysgenic populations is the weapon wielded by the elites to smash cohesive nation states.

    However, if people could be made to understand certain unpalatable truths….

  105. robt 说:
    @Ximenes

    实际上有 6 次载人登月:阿波罗 11、12、14、15、16 和 17 号。 最后一次是在 1972 年。

    Discl:我是一个信徒。我认为核武器骗局模因很愚蠢。

  106. @Ron Unz

    Sometimes, the simplest questions are the most useful…

    It’s my observation that just having enough sense to even ask a question is a couple of insurmountable quantum leaps for most ‘Merkins.

    GullsRUs apparently.

  107. MarkinLA 说:
    @anonymous

    You still haven’t answered the question: Are you a butt-hurt Black Studies major?

  108. @Kyle McKenna

    当我们有这么多有需要的移民时,我们如何花钱改善城市景观? 我们需要把这些钱花在吃、穿、住、学等上。

    Hmmm…here’s another view.

    每一支发射的枪,每艘战舰发射,每发射一枚火箭,就意味着最后一种意义上是那些饥饿和没有被喂食的人的盗窃,那些冷酷而不穿衣服的人。

    这个世界在武装中不花钱。

    它正在消耗劳动者的汗水,科学家的天才,孩子们的希望。

    一架现代重型轰炸机的成本是这样的:在 30 多个城市开设一所现代化的砖砌学校。

    它是两个发电厂,每个发电厂为一个拥有 60,000 人口的城镇提供服务。

    这是两家设备齐全的优质医院。

    这是大约 50 英里的混凝土高速公路。

    我们为一架战斗机支付了 XNUMX 万蒲式耳的小麦。

    我们支付一艘驱逐舰的新房,可以容纳 8,000 多人。

    我再说一遍,这是在这个世界所走的道路上找到的最好的生活方式。

    在任何真正意义上,这根本不是一种生活方式。 在充满威胁的战争阴云下,人类正悬在铁的十字架上。

    Address by President Dwight D. Eisenhower “The Chance for Peace” delivered before the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16,1953.

    • 回复: @mtn cur
  109. MarkinLA 说:
    @anonymous

    Now I remember, you were one of those geniuses telling everybody that Trump couldn’t win and was fooling all us bumpkins and I responded in an appropriate way. You are still butt-hurt over that.

  110. @Ron Unz

    Let this post of yours serve as ample evidence that you are willing not only to permit the lunatics their say, you’re willing to take them seriously and respond to them respectfully.

    For my part, I’m not sure why you do this or how you can do it, but it’s probably indication that you are a better man than I am.

    • 回复: @syonredux
    , @Ivan
  111. Triumph104 说:
    @Discard

    Actually, I know of a black woman who refuses to say what field her PhD is in. I’m only mentioning this in the hopes that maybe someone can clear up the mystery.

    C. Nicole Mason released a successful memoir last year, Born Bright: A Young Girl’s Journey from Nothing to Something in America .

    She has a bachelor’s from Howard and a PhD from the University of Maryland, College Park. Her PhD is prominently mentioned in all of her press coverage, and is even part of her Twitter name, but I can’t find the fields for either of her degrees.

    https://twitter.com/cnicolemason?lang=en

  112. @KenH

    I’ve only seen previews (won’t spend money for black supremacist propaganda) and in one scene a negress is showing up a class of wide eyed, gape mouthed white males as she adroitly solves a complicated math problem. In another scene a negress sarcastically intones that “if I were a white male I’d already be an engineer”. As if white males are simply handed engineering degrees for being white.

    The preview I saw showed the Proud Black Woman showing up the pusillanimous white male losers who obviously Couldn’t Do The Work, and so spent their time trying to humiliate the womenz. Thank God we white male engineers have at least some Diversity in our midst, otherwise we’d be back in the Stone Age like….Europe.

    Meanwhile, school chidrens all across America is taking field trips to see this latest propaganda masterpiece.

    https://impact.21cf.com/what/2016/12/21cf-paley-hidden-figures-screening

    http://wtvr.com/2017/02/09/1500-rps-students-take-field-trip-to-see-hidden-figures/

    https://www.wxyz.com/news/region/oakland-county/birmingham-field-trip-to-see-hidden-figures-ends-in-violence-allegations-of-racism

    http://www.wssd.org/Page/9580

    http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/education/2017/02/07/movie-field-trip-inspires-stem-participation/97587084/

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/multimedia/Principal-Plea-Secures-Movie-Trip_Dallas-Fort-Worth-411588035.html

    http://www.craigmontchiefs.org/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=436862&id=0

    http://fox2now.com/2017/02/07/students-feel-inspired-after-seeing-hidden-figures-at-pagedale-theatre/

    http://www.buffaloschools.org/news.cfm?story=5826

    等等等等

  113. utu 说:
    @Discard

    “No, average intelligence will not suffice to become an engineer.”

    And you know it from your personal experience, right? Algebra defeated you? You see, I would not give up on you. I had many cases of seemingly untalented students who after hard work learned algebra and calculus. They worked hard. They were motivated. You however seem to have an attitude. This perhaps accounts for your problems.

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
  114. MarkinLA 说:
    @Kyle McKenna

    The biggest problem relating to minorities and why people tend to avoid hiring them is because they are afraid of what might happen if they have to fire them.

    When I worked at Hughes we would take as many as we could get. Since the amount of black engineers was relatively tiny and you simply couldn’t poach them from another defense contractor because they were in demand there also, companies like Hughes began doing things like hiring them for HR positions even when HR was already overstaffed. These guys main job was to cash their paycheck. On paper they were in charge of minority outreach strategies.

    The company was under pressure to promote blacks into management positions. It is hard to promote black engineers that haven’t been there long enough to be promoted or haven’t run a project so they resorted to puffing up the performance reviews of these HR guys so they could be made managers if they needed to.

    The 90’s defense wind down came and Hughes made the decision to get rid of support personal and young engineers who weren’t doing anything significant. Out went the HR guys, one black and one Hispanic. They sued based on their stellar performance reviews. A jury awarded them 12 million in damages. This was 1994 when a decent engineering salary was 60K probably less for HR drones. Each would get 100 years of pay for getting laid-off simply because they had good performance reviews. The company appealed and I had left the company and never heard what happened after that.

    • 回复: @Triumph104
  115. Rurik 说:
    @Ron Unz

    wouldn’t the Russians have known that, due to their satellites and telescopes?

    or consider even today, with our super-duper high-powered space telescopes… why don’t they show us what the cars look like today?

    the ‘lunar rovers’ they took up there. There were at least three just from the Apollo missions

    https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jrbassett.com%2Fapollo%2FAPRV07.JPG&sp=1ea7a99c4a34f99cf75a138b153aa3d5

    they even did a ‘rally” with them, spinning the tires and such

    https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Froa.h-cdn.co%2Fassets%2F15%2F39%2F768x384%2Fgallery-1443217822-moon.jpg&sp=103c7c45f5c15a07478f8f626d0d8407

    what do they look like now? Are the tires flat and is there small asteroid damage and such?

    don’t we have any technology that would let us see those babies with hi-res photos today?

    didn’t the Chinese even fly some hi-powered surveillance satellite around the moon, taking pictures of everything?

    只是在说 ..

    • 回复: @syonredux
    , @Kyle McKenna
  116. @Achmed E. Newman

    Im not a racist. Im a race realist. Big difference.

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
  117. MarkinLA 说:
    @utu

    Is that you Jaime Escalante? Sorry, to burst that bubble but the myth on this one is another one of those PC exaggerations.

    In the real story this was at a famous Hispanic high school, Garfield High School. The movie makes it appear that he plucked a large number of students out and taught them pre-calculus such that nobody believed it could be done.

    The problem is the real class was only 10 students. This is a larger high school that usually has more than 4000 students so each class is at least 1000 students. So less than 1% of the senior class was taking pre-calculus. My high school with 1800 students had two classes of pre-calculus each with about 30 students 60/450 or 13.3%.

    Since we can assume these were the smartest 1% their IQs were certainly comparable to those taking pre-calculus in my school even if you agree with the lower Hispanic IQ. The real question to ask is why did these people need so much tutoring? They attended extra sessions after school and on Saturday.

    If you need to spend this much time on calculus then you won’t be getting a degree in mathematics or physics.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @Triumph104
  118. @jacques sheete

    So if you had to move to watts or south central or detroit or any other area where black people are the majority thats here in the USA, and stay there for 6 months, you would be cool with that? You wouldnt be concerned about your safety and well being? You wouldnt be worried about your property? What about the safety of your family? Either you yourself are of african decent, or are really high, because i cant believe some one could be some willfully blind.

    (i do enjoy your trolling, btw. I like how you spell words phonetically, reminds me of steinbech and lovecraft. Keep it up)

  119. syonredux 说:
    @Kyle McKenna

    Let this post of yours serve as ample evidence that you are willing not only to permit the lunatics their say, you’re willing to take them seriously and respond to them respectfully.

    For my part, I’m not sure why you do this or how you can do it, but it’s probably indication that you are a better man than I am.

    Ron has his faults (I think that he is completely wrong about Hispanic Mestizo and Amerind immigrants), but he does possess a rare virtue: he is willing to allow a wide range of voices to be heard. And that tolerance even extends to lunatics who think that the Apollo Moon landings were faked.

  120. syonredux 说:
    @Rurik

    NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) captured the sharpest images ever taken from space of the Apollo 12, 14 and 17 landing sites. Images show the twists and turns of the paths made when the astronauts explored the lunar surface.

    https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html

    • 回复: @Rurik
  121. @jacques sheete

    Yep, get rid of all the bankster, crony capitalist BS, and MIC waste. In this we’re in agreement. I believe since the cold war ended, most “defense” money has been wasted. The amount wasted at all levels of gov’t, though (not just Federal), in the social justice BS is of the same order of magnitude.

  122. Forbes 说:
    @Ximenes

    攀登珠穆朗玛峰也确实没有意义,但人们一遍又一遍地这样做。

    他们是靠自己的一毛钱做的,而不是纳税人。

  123. @Ximenes

    人们为了挑战而攀登珠穆朗玛峰。 如果你曾经为了好玩而爬山,你就会知道这一点。

    What do you mean “with means”? You clearly have no idea how complicated, or expensive, space travel is. Its also extremely dangerous.

  124. @Delinquent Snail

    I learned the whole “sticks and stones” dealy back in my kindergarden years. I don’t care which names are used on me – truth is truth.

    I wasn’t calling you a racist as an insult. You didn’t get my comment.

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  125. Truth 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    (before i get called racist, i live in a poor suburb of LA and i see blacks living their lives everyday. I see the lack of restraint, lack of morals, lack of character and compassion. And its not because they are poor. Im poor.

    If you live in a “poor suburb”, Old Sport, there must be some deficiency on you part.

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  126. @Ron Unz

    Astronauts left retro-reflectors on the moon for scientists to regularly measure the distance from the earth to the moon using lasers.

    Anybody including hoax believers can do the same measurement using the right equipment.

    The ongoing Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment measures the distance between Earth and the Moon using laser ranging. Lasers on Earth are aimed at retroreflectors planted on the Moon during the Apollo program (11, 14, and 15) and the two Lunokhod missions.[1] The time for the reflected light to return is measured.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

  127. Truth 说:
    @Discard

    One might as well say “I am sixty two” without telling me whether it’s years, inches, or IQ.

    Do you know a lot of people who announce their height in inches, or either know, or speak of, their IQ?

  128. Rurik 说:
    @syonredux

    yea I’ve seen those, but I’d just like to see the cars up close, you know

    maybe there’s just no telescopes powerful enough, or maybe I’m the only one, but if they could just get some good hi-res photos of those, and what they look like today, I think it would go a long way to putting the whole debate to rest, no?

    • 回复: @syonredux
  129. Truth 说:
    @KenH

    ’ve only seen previews (won’t spend money for black supremacist propaganda) and in one scene a negress is showing up a class of wide eyed, gape mouthed white males as she adroitly solves a complicated math problem. In another scene a negress sarcastically intones that “if I were a white male I’d already be an engineer”. As if white males are simply handed engineering degrees for being white. Gimme an effing break

    I’d love to read your description of the other 123 scenes in the “movie you didn’t see.”

    • 回复: @Alden
  130. @Achmed E. Newman

    I did. I was clarifying my position. This isn’t a private chat between you and I. This is a public forum after all.

  131. Truth 说:
    @Ron Unz

    That certainly includes the theory of a “Moon Landing Hoax,” apparently promoted by several commenters.

    There was no “moon landing”, we aren’t currently moving at 1100 miles and hour in a circle, people in Buenos Aires don’t stand “heals over head” because we don’t live on a sphere, fossil fuels did not come from dinosaurs, nor did humans from apes, and Jesus and the original Hebrews were black, that’s why the current inhabitants of this region are known as JewISH (“like”).

    Sorry Ron, your folks* have had an excellent 300 some-odd year run, but it’s coming to a head…

    (I meant “fraternal organization” folks, not gentlemen of Jewish descent, by the way).

    • 回复: @War for Blair Mountain
  132. @Ron Unz

    I have already read the three replies to your post, Ron (the Rurik one tells me stuff I didn’t know). Do you know how big a telescope would have to be to resolve an object only ten ft. across from 250,000 miles? That’s 1 in more than 10 million, or a coupla hundreths of a second of arc. It’s not possible even today from earth (maybe never due to the atmosphere), and the electronics in the late 1960’s could not be compared to today’s – I’m not sure how the Soviet satellites could have detected anything but the same communications that we received (i.e. would have been part of any alleged hoax).

    Had it been a hoax, the Soviets would have found out the old-fashioned way, from their multiple spies. I think the obvious questions are more like:

    How many people worked at Grumman (lunar landing module), Boeing, Douglas, and N American Aviation (Saturn V and command module) during the multi-year time frame of the “alleged” design and manufacture of this amazing rocket and accessories? I’d say hundreds of thousands. Can they all tell the same lie the rest of their lives? No

    类似的东西。

  133. @Truth

    I have kids and its much cheaper here then down the hill. Plus my line of work keeps me in southern california, so i cant leave this cesspool.

  134. syonredux 说:
    @Rurik

    yea I’ve seen those, but I’d just like to see the cars up close, you know

    maybe there’s just no telescopes powerful enough,

    似乎是这样的:

    Yes, the flag is still on the moon, but you can’t see it using a telescope. I found some statistics on the size of lunar equipment in a Press Kit for the Apollo 16 mission. The flag is 125 cm (4 feet) long, and you would need an optical wavelength telescope around 200 meters (~650 feet) in diameter to see it. The largest optical wavelength telescope that we have now is the Keck Telescope in Hawaii which is 10 meters in diameter. The Hubble Space Telescope is only 2.4 meters in diameter – much too small!

    Resolving the larger lunar rover (which has a length of 3.1 meters) would still require a telescope 75 meters in diameter.

    http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/45-our-solar-system/the-moon/the-moon-landings/122-are-there-telescopes-that-can-see-the-flag-and-lunar-rover-on-the-moon-beginner

    but if they could just get some good hi-res photos of those, and what they look like today, I think it would go a long way to putting the whole debate to rest, no?

    Dunno. I could see a denier saying that the Moon buggies were simply launched to the Moon on their own (evidence for this kind of eventuality, etc. ).

    Heck, I’ve had deniers refute Ron’s suggestion regrading the Soviets by saying that the USSR was in on it! See, both the Soviet and the American manned space missions were faked. I guess that Brezhnev lost the coin toss with Nixon as to which country would fake the Moon landings…..

    • 回复: @Rurik
  135. Triumph104 说:
    @MarkinLA

    In 2015, Facebook had 11 black female employees. Maxine Williams, a black woman from Trinidad, is global head of diversity. She earned at law degree from Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar and has a bachelor’s from Yale.

    The daughter of Nigerian-immigrant physicians, Dayo Olopade is a media strategist for Facebook. She has three degrees from Yale, bachelor’s, law, MBA.

    Facebook likes their black employees to be overeducated immigrant stock. I assume that they are a lot less trouble.

  136. utu 说:
    @MarkinLA

    “The real question to ask is why did these people need so much tutoring?” – The effect of neglect is cumulative. They did not develop habits of learning and they did not know how to learn. This is a complex process that involves many feedbacks. The worst is that they do not care. It is not their objective. That’s why I qualified my statement to people who are motivated. The best motivator is family. Ambitious mothers and fathers. Families with expectations and aspiration. The cultures these people come from they usually do not have it.

    I just stated that learning algebra and calculus is not really a big deal. Believe me it’s much easier to learn math than to teach somebody how to write well. Too many people are intimidated by math. Lots of them claim they are not good at math meaning that they have no special abilities it takes to learn math. At the same time rarely anybody claims they are not good at writing, meaning that they think they can write. Which is not true. Their writing ability is usually atrocious. Sure there are students who have special talents often nourished by family who are great at math on Mathematical Olympiad level. But mathematics for an average engineer is within the reach for average person of average intelligence. Most people just do not get a chance. Schools mishandle them but the greatest damage is done to them by the culture they come from. It is very hard to repair. Being good at math is not within the scope of their goals.

  137. Triumph104 说:
    @MarkinLA

    Jaime Escalante and Marva Collins were both figments of the imagination.

    Ten of the students agreed to sign waivers, so as to allow the College Board to show Jay Mathews, author of Escalante: The Best Teacher in America, their exam papers. Mathews found that nine of the ten had made “identical silly mistakes” on free response question Number 6. Mathews heard from two of the students that during the exam a piece of paper had been passed around with that flawed solution. Twelve students (including the nine with the identical mistakes) retook the exam, and most of them received 4 and 5 on the 5-point exam. In 1987, 27 percent of all Mexican Americans who scored 3 or higher on the calculus AP exam were students at Garfield High. […]

    Escalante first began teaching at Garfield High School in 1974 and taught his first AP Calculus course in 1978 with a group of 14 students. Only five students remained in the course at the end of the year, and, of the five, only two passed the AP Calculus exam. Reason stated that “Unlike the students in the movie, the real Garfield students required years of solid preparation before they could take calculus. So Escalante established a program at East Los Angeles College where students could take those classes in intensive seven-week summer sessions. Escalante and [principal Henry] Gradillas were also instrumental in getting the feeder schools to offer algebra in the eighth and ninth grades.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_and_Deliver

  138. syonredux 说:
    @utu

    But mathematics for an average engineer is within the reach for average person of average intelligence.

    And what is “average intelligence?” As I pointed out upthread,the average IQ for Black Americans is 85….

  139. turtle 说:
    @KenH

    >hyping and embellishing by Jewish Hollywood
    which will avoid discussing the truth:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
    Without which, the U.S probably would have been second to the Moon.
    And none of them, in contrast to the Manhattan Project, were Jewish, which is one reason why we will never see a Hollywood movie on the subject.
    其他原因包括:
    1. U.S. Gov’t ignored their own genius, Robert Goddard, so they were made to look foolish (can’t have that).
    2. Jingoism demands the glorification of “good old American know how,” brought to you by “good old Americans,” as Prof. Tom Lehrer put it.

  140. @Rurik

    Guess why the Chinese can’t have lunar rovers?

    • 回复: @Rurik
  141. @utu

    IME, and FWIW, some people are just cut out to be sci/tech types, and some writers, artists etc. A rare few master both sides of the coin, and most of course manage neither.

  142. @utu

    乌图

    I agree with you on this point. Math Olympiads are vastly overrated…and there has been a lot of discussion about this among phd research level mathematicians on the internet. Fields Medal winner Russian Mathemstician Andrie Okounov despises math olympiads….go read his Fields Medal interview.

    I view IQ tests the same way that I view Math Olympiads:logic-math problems stripped of all meaningful math context. In fact, math olympiad problem posers go out of there way to strip away meaningfully mathematical context…the complete antithesis of what real math really is about.

    I have 0 intellectual respect for the whole field of IQ test score psychometrics….way down at the bottom of the pile in terms of scientific profoundity.

  143. @Truth

    Boring “brains in a vat” sophistry….that’s your problem:you’re boring.

  144. Rurik 说:
    @syonredux

    I suppose reply 131 lays the concerns to rest, thank God

    (even tho I look at the photo from the Wiki page he links to, and wonder why it’s so close to the lunar module. won’t it get covered with dust from the launch? Why not use the cars to drive those reflectors far apart and away from the modules, and that way, being far apart, they can use the distance between them to calculate the trajectory and triangulate the position of the moon more accurately)

    Ok, I’ll let it go. I just hope one day when they do send up a satellite that can look down at the moon, that we get some good shots of the cars. I’d just like to see them.

  145. mtn cur 说:
    @jacques sheete

    优秀的点,艾克可能是最后一位知道他不只是在看他主演的电视节目的总统。

  146. mtn cur 说:

    登月主要是为了“让卢布惊叹”,无论是事实还是虚构,其本身都没有多大意义; 然而,作为后代的世界末日系统,让精神病政府的洲际弹道导弹配备了炸弹 MIRV,它可以在你居住的街道上击中你和你的表兄弟,甚至允许老化组件出现故障,而瓦砾弹跳冗余可以弥补这一点。 传输系统甚至不必工作,引爆原地核武器将杀死所有需要杀死的混蛋,即使还有数十亿无辜者。 还有什么是新的。 一个乡下人和朋友的著名遗言,“让我们做一些真正令人发指和愚蠢的事情,然后告诉大家我们是英雄和爱国者,因为我们做到了。”

  147. joef 说:

    All this Hidden Figures ‘new history’ is just further attempts to glorify afro americans. Today we just happen to discover (fiction) that Blacks were in D Day, and that Black clerical women’s ability to do math were more important than Phd Mathematicians and Engineers that NASA had on the payroll.

    We went through this historical fiction with the Tuskegee Airmen won the war (when at the time of their arrival the Allies already had air superiority over the Luftwaffe), the ‘Liberators’ fiction that Black Army units liberated the concentration camps, open heart surgery, and the traitorous “pardoned” Black Navy Sailors who refused the load a munitions ship because it was dangerous (while the other Sailor ethnic groups unloaded these same munition ships in the front lines of war, without fanfare ).

    When will all this Negro nonsense revisionist history stop? When we stop pandering to it! If a Black actually did some heroic deed, and or invented something of value to civilization, then it should be recognized. The Black Sailor Doris Miller deserved his Navy Cross for helping defend the fleet against overwhelming opposition during the raid on Pearl Harbor. It was recognized by his contemporaries as an honorable act — It was NOT “discovered” half a century later by some pandering lib, who wants to resolve some guilt issue for living in the suburbs (through the hard efforts of the lib’s parents).

    If a Black actually did something important fine, it should be recognized, otherwise we should stop making this crap up in an attempt to appease a very ungrateful afro american lot.

    • 回复: @Uebersetzer
  148. Anonymous [AKA "BatDetective"] 说:
    @El Dato

    FYI–not to ‘start’ anything up, but gaps in knowledge & reasoning should be filled whenever possible. As such: those people in Asia in ‘pajamas’ have cut-each others throats for centuries, n would cut yours too given the right circumstance; they don’t fight ‘fair’, n don’t think like we do as we are all products of our conditioning. Our efforts may sometimes mis-guided, but once begun must be finished. Further, as for ‘Mesopotamia’, according to AP writings: a Polish contingent of 6 troops in the ‘original’ coalition found 2 nuclear-tipped ICBM’s in Iraq which was reported on page 15a in a small left-hand corner of the newspaper in June of ’03 & quickly covered up. In addition, our troops found 500 50-gallon drums of deadly chemicals which were being used by Sodomy Insane on his own people (remember that?) in Nov. of the following year which was noted on page 17a…except, of course, for those children, cripples, & old people that were strategically placed around the outside wall of his compound so we couldn’t bomb the crap out of him & his deviant sons in good conscience! 还记得吗 Funny how history gets forgotten, huh? These items were quickly & discreetly moved across the border into Syria as Iraq was falling–this also was in a small article in the lower right hand corner of the paper & quickly overlooked. Anything to make Powell, Bush, n Cheney look bad-true or not!–What do you think the chinless mental-deficient ‘Bassakwards Assholadad’ has been using on his people in Syria these last few years? That old ordinance & chemical weaponry has been around for Years & is Definately considered WMD, by soldiers at least… And it’s been Esp. bad since barry backed off the red-line, no? And, of course, it was during this same time period ’03-’05 that osama bin-asshole was killed by our Daisy-Cutters in Afghanistan during Rumsfelds bombing campaign while the mis-guided cowardly suadi prince was hiding in the hills–hence the rapid fall-off of terrorist activity once him & his credit card were no longer @ the disposal of al-queda…also why we never saw the dead carcas of the body-double killed by Seal-Team 6…in the botched raid that killed some of our brave boys n a very expensive chopper! Just one more reason barry’s a fraud! Buuut don’t get me started on that! He’s the one that screwed up our repayment in oil for liberating Iraq, remember that?! We were to be repaid for our efforts there and in Kuwait as the oil-wells were being set on fire, but barry botched that too–that’s were the ‘treasure’ part of the phrase ‘blood & treasure’ came from…it had all been negotiated!! Buuut, when you’re the ‘mocha-coloured puppet’ of george soros you do what you’re told! That way in 8 years you can set the world on fire @ home n abroad!! And of course screw up eveything that had been set up prior to your arrival! I’d say ‘lol’ to finish, but there ain’t nuthin’ funny about it…next lesson kiddies will be: ‘how to screw up your foreign policy for decades using chicks as Secretaries of State’, and how the Dems were responsible for the financial collapse they blamed on Mr. Bush–It’s amazing what you can learn with a little hard research n detective work nè cèst pas’??

  149. joef 说:
    @KenH

    Most people with a modicum of intelligence will recognize it for the crap and revisionist history that it represents. The handiwork of the black race is all around us. See Camden and Newark, NJ, Detroit, Memphis, Chicongo, any black American city or neigborhood, Haiti and every black ruled, black majority nation not to mention their violent crime rates. That is a more accurate representation of black achievement than the mythical rendering by Hollywood in Hidden Figures and other works of propaganda.

    That pretty much sums it up. But yet it is ignored, until it collapses from the lack of resources available to sustain this big lie. Until then the libs & leftist will continue to sell the mythology of the indispensable afro american.

  150. Lloyd1927 说:

    Katherine Johnson is a very light mulatto and did not experience much racial discrimination:
    _____________________________
    In the movie, your character is forced to run back and forth to West Computing to use the bathroom. But according to the book, you actually ignored the prohibitions and used the white women’s bathroom anyway — and it sounds like no one stopped you. Is there a lesson to be learned in the way you dealt with that particular barrier?

    What were we supposed to do? We learned to pick our battles for the greater good.

    http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-hidden-figures-katherine-johnson-20170109-story.html

    Blacks get VERY upset when you point out that their so-called “blacks” of achievement are mostly mulattoes and the real blacks have done very little.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  151. joef 说:
    @utu

    Exactly. Makes you wonder on which team creatures like Paul Kearsey play. The same goes for Steve Sailer crowd and many of commenters here. They think that by breaking some politically correct taboos about race they are exceptionally brave and subversive, while actually they are just another kind of cucks. Useful idiots or paid provocateurs. Tertium non datur.

    No, they are actually following their own rational self interest and not living in some intellectual fairy land bubble. All book smarts, no street smarts, while never really ever having to live with the problem are the true cucks (and please no limited token experiences about the ghetto – – they do not compare to 10,000s of man hours of actual urban living experience that others have had).

    Passing judgement pontificating from afar, with very limited real world experience, to feel intellectually superior is what libs/leftist/cucks are all about. All the intellectual theorizing is useless when their is a knife pointed at your gut.

    Just because someone never personally experienced (or cannot handle the reality of) real urban afro aggressions does not mean it does not exist. And just because Keasey and Sailer bring up uncomfortable realities, that are preferred to be ignored, does not alter the truth of its existence.

  152. joef 说:
    @Anonymous

    black people do not own the system and are not responsible for this systemic failure

    Really, what about Detroit?, the self created afro american mess. I could bring up a dozen more examples, but why bother. Afros never want to accept responsibility for their own failures, the libs will deny it, and the leftist helped create it. I am sorry that not living in denial is so offensive to you.

  153. Anon • 免责声明 说:

    HIDDEN FIGURES is a soft hate hoax.

    Incidentally, notice that so many ‘hate crimes’ are ‘hate hoaxes’ carried out by non-whites against non-whites.

    I think non-whites who do such things should be charged with ‘hate crime’ against non-whites. If a black person writes “Kill all Ni**ers” on a wall, he should be held accountable for ‘hate crime’ against blacks. After all, a person should be judged by his actions. If a black does an anti-black thing, he must charged for that thing even if he is black.
    He should be charged like whites would be charged since he did it.

    He should also be hit with an extra charge of gratuitous vandalism.

  154. ltravail 说:

    这是我在过去一个月左右的时间里在这些页面上读到的第三篇或第四篇文章,其中使用美国宇航局登月作为白人优越性和至上主义的终极典范。屁股受伤的约翰伯奇类型(本文的作者显然是其中之一)已经陷入了类似 SJW 的精神崩溃,特别是自从电影“隐藏人物”(我没有看过也没有兴趣看)上映以来你附近的一座剧院——肩负起保卫阿波罗计划免受种族污染的责任(如果有人能理解这个想法的话!),就像森林小矮人在执行混婚任务时,为了保卫白雪公主的贞操免受南方一群黝黑入侵者的侵害而战斗。不幸的是,对于这些矮人战士来说,选择美国宇航局登月任务作为建立防御工事的基础,以抵御对白人纯洁性和至高无上的意识形态的攻击,注定了他们的彻底失败和当之无愧的羞辱。这是愚蠢而可笑的。到目前为止,世界上大多数人 — — 除了数量不断减少的美国例外论夸张和天命论的顽固狂热者之外 — — 都清楚地意识到美国宇航局的登月任务是一个骗局。无可争议的证据无处不在——不仅在对六十年代登月任务的广泛专家分析中,而且在 NASA 自己承认的在 21 世纪将人类送出近地轨道目前难以克服的挑战中!甚至有迹象表明,维基解密本身将在未来的某个时候向阿波罗骗局事件投下炸弹。在阿波罗登月任务中,白种战士矮人不可能选择更加摇摇欲坠的基础来捍卫白人至上。事实上,他们的防御工事是建在一个天坑上的!那么,当阿波罗登月任务不再能够成为病态至上主义意识形态的旗帜时,这些精神侏儒是否会声称“至少‘白人’种族优越到足以发明有史以来最大的骗局”?这些页面上所有关于智商的讨论,像这样的文章清楚地表明,被囚禁在这些回声室中的白人之间存在着大量的自欺欺人……就我个人而言,我对关于一些年轻黑人的故事不感到自豪或感兴趣女性(或任何其他人——黑人、白人或介于两者之间的人)在 1960 世纪 XNUMX 年代将男性送上月球的过程中发挥了“重要作用”(尽管这绝不是为了逃避这个故事的历史主角,甚至是为了诋毁其真正意义,正如本文作者在这两方面所做的那样)。我真正反对的是利用这些女性来将完全虚构的故事永久化为历史现实。但更糟糕的是那些利用这种虚构来维持(或试图)病态幻想的人的病态。毫无疑问,任何“宗教”都有一些狂热分子宁愿死于故意的无知,也不愿思考现实。不过,我们将看看在这件事上谁能笑到最后。

    • 回复: @utu
  155. V. Uil 说:
    @Triumph104

    Out of how many thousands of people? If you knew a little about statistics – no, scrap that – if you just had common sense you’d know that all things being equal about 13% of the moon landing team should be black.

  156. @jacques sheete

    My understanding is that you won’t find “typical blacks” in the “military” because even the US army seeks to ensure a minimum IQ (or equivalent) of about 90 and no criminal record amongst its recruits.

  157. @Anonymous

    好点子。 登月显然是假的,所以应该允许我们对故事进行创作。 黑人女性找到了轨迹。 宇航员在月球上发现了秘密金字塔。 巴兹奥尔德林是墨西哥人。 唐是壮阳药……嘿,这很有趣!

    还记得太空食品棒吗? 这就是astroNOTS在月球上吃的东西:

  158. @Lloyd1927

    Only in America! The LA Times picture of Katherine Johnson is of a white woman with just a couple of unusual features which would make an old fashioned 1920s Englishman suggest “a touch of the tar brush”. In Australia we recognise quite a lot of people that people without an interest in race would simply assume to be of European (and/or maybe a bit of Chinese) descent but identify as Aboriginal enough to get the considerable advantages that go with it (unless you are a real outback Aborigine in a community with alcohol and violence problems). And Aborigines even including those who could be seen as white amoount to fewer than 3 per centof the population. So our problem is finding enough in reality to keep an SJW fuelled.

  159. @Kyle McKenna

    Isn’t there a problem identified by Marx that you have in pointing to class divisions as a bigger problem than those of race? You have to see yourself as belonging to a class with a whole lot of people who also identify as members of the same class – and assume they will always be in that class (cp. race for almost everyone) – before you can generate class problems. With union nembership falling I would have thought class is losing out to race by quite a margin.

    • 回复: @JackOH
  160. Alden 说:
    @Truth

    I believe he’s writing about the trailers constantly shown on TV

  161. JackOH 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Wizard, you nailed something, buddy. What sort of human aggregation makes political sense and has some sort of immediately felt reality to those within it? I recall Socialist Mussolini saw the upsurge of nationalist fervor in WWI as compelling evidence that trans-national class solidarity was a sham. America’s Republicans prattle on about “family values”, although they don’t really mean it. Unionized faculty at our local university are quietly okay with seeing the administration throw staffers and adjuncts under the bus to pay for a declining number of full-time and tenure-track professors. On and on, it seems to me, we have human aggregations that are enormously plastic in a political sense. (America’s “permanent government” of lobbyists, kept legislators, bureaucrats, and the like is as close as I can get to a grouping of people bound as though by eternal verities.)

    UK Professor Guy Standing has some ideas about a “precariat” that may be worth looking at. I’ve only read the headline version of his work, he’s a bit Leftish, but he seems quite a big-picture guy.

  162. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Rurik

    Do you appreciate that this is a (brilliant) parody?

    • 回复: @Rurik
  163. @Triumph104

    谁在乎>黑人知道任何事情的唯一原因是因为他们被允许生活在白人周围,以及我们卓越的智力,我们组织和建设高等教育场所的能力。白人是黑人学习任何东西的原因。如果他们的黑人祖先没有被出售……好吧,他们的黑人祖先是白人,这些人仍然住在家乡的泥屋里,互相残杀,强奸婴儿来治疗艾滋病,这显然是南澳和非洲黑人最喜欢的消遣。这些黑人都没有我应该说,所谓的成就者或 AA 成就者,如果他们的祖先被带到这里,就会参与如此规模的事情。即使是移民到这里学习的黑人也是因为怀特建造的。他们自己提供的优越的教育机会在非洲永远不可能实现。不仅是黑人,还有棕色人种。每个黑人和棕色人种都想来到白人建造了最好的一切的地方。没有人愿意涌入非洲或南美洲。只有白人所在的地方。白人总是要拯救所有人否则他们自己。你真的认为黑人会在非洲建立太空计划吗?LMFAO!继续和你的黑人懒兄弟姐妹一起吸毒吧。黑人取得成就的唯一原因是因为他们被允许留下来,在白人周围生活并接受教育。如果黑人从未被带到这里或在白人之后被送回来内战,这是应该发生的,他们在任何领域都不会拥有所有所谓的黑人成就者的历史。他们所谓的发明家和博士,科学家,工程师都不会存在。相反,他们会与医生、医生、部落军阀、泥巴建筑工程师一起。我会随时对任何黑人或流血的心脏虚弱的白人自由派小丑说这句话。你甚至对我张嘴,我会把你的牙齿打掉。

  164. Abbybwood 说:
    @Ximenes

    戴夫·麦高恩 (Dave McGowan) 写了一篇出色的论文,解释了 1960 世纪 1970 年代末和 XNUMX 年代初人类登上月球并漫步的可能性为何为零,并根据他的研究解释了为什么此后没有人“成功”。

    谷歌搜索“Waving the Moondoggie”的 PDF,准备好大声笑吧!

  165. 好了,还有什么可说的呢。

    《隐藏人物》是让黑人及其支持者感到非裔美国人在塑造美国乃至世界历史方面发挥了重要作用的另一种方式。

    这是一部重写历史以使其情节可行的奇幻电影,我们以前在有关二战的电影中见过它,旨在使美国的贡献显得更加重要,以至于好莱坞宣称美国进入二战是它的唯一原因韩元。

    然而,无论美国和其他西方国家如何努力,《隐藏人物》的幻想都无法掩盖有关美国和其他西方国家黑人社区历史的丑陋真相。

    黑人社区一直面临着年轻人公然暴力、对帮派成员和非洲独裁者的虐待狂崇拜、同时将毒品交易视为受人尊敬的行业等问题。最重要的是,人们对黑人有一种深深的权利意识,认为黑人应该谋生,而且对黑人社区的其他人缺乏同情心。

    当黑人在一名黑人罪犯被枪杀后发生骚乱,而对一名黑人儿童在同一天在同一个城市被想要杀人的黑帮开枪射杀的事毫不在意时,这就很说明问题了。

    隐藏人物是一种创可贴,旨在掩盖脓液感染的伤口,而这种伤口每年都会变得越来越严重。

    即使在给予黑人自治之后,这种趋势仍然持续到主要黑人社区的谋杀率与遭受内战的第三世界国家相似。

    • 回复: @RAGNAR LOTHBROK
    , @joef
  166. joef 说:

    Great, we always seem to digress into theorizing instead of concentrating on the facts of the matter: racial propaganda, the immediacy of afro social dysfunctions & violence, and the unsustainable financial burdens they present to our economic system. It does not really matter if we landed on the moon, or not, because it does not change the current circumstances of our problems with the afro americans.

    And the other theory that we are all being turned against each other by some unknown power elite manipulation may be true… but like all conspiracy theories, they are impossible to prove without actual evidence or personally observing first hand information, or a preponderance of reliable witnesses …thus, it’s just spinning your wheels in endless theorizing, while ignoring the immediacy of the dangers around you (thus preventing/delaying appropriate responses to the more immediate problem).

    And even if true, it does not take away that even without such manipulation, many afros would behave exactly as they have always did towards the host society: Ungrateful, hateful, violent lot. That it is more of a choice of the afros themselves than any elitist manipulation (although the academics/MSM/politicians are definitely fanning the flames of such hostility). For those who do not believe this, you obviously are lacking real world experience in this subject matter.

    It is easy to pontificate from afar when you are not immediately effected by it.
    If you live in suburban cupcake land, please stop telling the rest of us who lived in/near the urban jungle how to think about the afro problem. We have enough empirical information to make our own mostly accurate conclusions. Experience with reality trumps intellectual theoretical opinion (& wishful thinking), especially when it comes to survival. We will not forfeit our right to use hard earned experience because it offends you, and does not correspond with the make believe.

  167. @John Smith.

    确切地说,“即使在给予黑人自治之后,这种趋势仍然持续到主要黑人社区的谋杀率与遭受内战的第三世界国家相似。”

    如果你想知道当白人掌管一切、南非排名第一时,看看南非会发生什么,然后曼德拉和温妮“项链”曼德拉接管了黑人统治,南非成为世界第一谋杀和强奸之都。让我们不要忽视一个显而易见的事实,即南澳现在在联合国种族灭绝观察名单上的 1 个国家中排名第 1。那么您认为美国这里正在发生什么,请向南澳寻找这里已经发生的事情的模板。白人正在被南澳的白人叛逆妇女正在与这些黑人野蛮人繁衍。南澳再次存在的唯一原因是白人建造了它。自从白人成为第一之后,来自非洲各地的黑人不得不涌入并摧毁他们没有也无法建造的东西。

    • 回复: @joef
  168. joef 说:
    @RAGNAR LOTHBROK

    这就是它的非常不幸的现实(我宁愿它不是真的,但这并不能改变它是真的的事实)。根据学者和 MSM 的说法:我们因认识到这些事件而没有通过政治正确性对其进行过滤而感到内疚。他们希望我们放弃自我保护,甘愿成为非洲人敌意的受害者,以证实自由主义的信念。

  169. joef 说:
    @John Smith.

    T

    然而,无论美国和其他西方国家如何努力,《隐藏人物》的幻想都无法掩盖有关美国和其他西方国家黑人社区历史的丑陋真相。

    但这正是他们想要对我们做的事情。通过男男性接触者和教育,他们向农村/郊区的千禧一代误导了他们关于非裔美国人种族关系问题的真正性质,以及他们作为非生产性囤积物呈现的压倒性的未来经济负担。

    I resided in a BosWash urban area (pick one, its all basically the same no matter if it’s Baltimore, Bronx, Philly, or Newark, etc) and I observed the same pattern with my fellow white flight contemporaries:
    – – The parents flee to the suburbs to escape afro barbarity;
    – – The parents entrust their kids to local suburban public schools, claiming its blue ribbon (they all make the same claim);
    – – The school indoctrinates their kids to the false narrative of politically correct ideas;
    – – The kids now have no idea re: the urban chaos their parents actually escaped from;
    – – When their kids grow into young adults they listen to the MSM that re enforces the politically correct lies they learned in public school;
    – – Thus as useful idiots, they become completely detached from the hard reality of the true nature of the problem, while living in a mental world of fashionable liberal fantasy.

    因此,MSM/学术/政治精英相信,通过愚弄千禧一代,这将在某种程度上维持不可持续的局面。但问题是非洲爆炸头正在迅速超过 经济承载能力 of this country, and well crafted liberal misinformation will not reverse this trend. We provide afros with entitlements and unearned praise ad nauseam, just wait until we are no longer able to do so (It certainly won’t become less violent).

    • 同意: Triumph104
  170. utu 说:
    @ltravail

    “forest dwarfs battling to defend the virginity of Snow White”

    “taking it upon themselves to defend the Apollo program from racial contamination”

    It seems you got it right about the author and most of the commenters here though it is really irrelevant whether the moon landing occurred or not. Nothing works as well as race issues in divide and conquer strategy. The owners of dwarfs knew that. That’s why they invested in slavery. And the investment keeps on giving. Mostly because the dwarfs remain as oblivious now as they were 300 years ago.

    • 回复: @Truth
  171. Truth 说:
    @utu

    it is really irrelevant whether the moon landing occurred or not.

    It is irrelevant whether the moon landing occurred or not?

    I was say that this is highly relevant, and even elemental to the subject of divide and conquer…and everything else in our modern American life.

    The faked moon landing, ( and I believe that not only the moon landing was fake, but the earth is flat and fixed in position) speaks to a, frankly, overwhelming culture of deception and lies. It is not an exaggeration when I say that practically everything, you hear and see in the general conversation, NASA, fossil fuels, slavery, religion, WWII, etc; is an intentional deception, meant to dumb down the populous, and keep the current guardians, in power.

    Yes, there is a divide and conquer mentality amongst the races, but it is truly part of a much larger, and more nefarious plot.

    • 巨魔: utu
  172. Anonymous [AKA "Gentile Patriot"] 说:
    @Anonymous

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass jew boy!

  173. Erebus 说:
    @Ron Unz

    罗恩

    Sometimes, the simplest questions are the most useful…

    That may be so, but the question you actually asked is, given the geopolitics, ideological disputes, and mass psychosis of the time, probably the antithesis of “the simplest”.

    Recently, NASA has been looking at “going back” to the moon. From that, far simpler questions arise. Namely:
    Given the orders of magnitude higher technology available today…
    – why would it take twice as long for the return trip today (by NASA’s own planning docs) as it took in 1969? BTW, this is not counting any time spent orbiting or on the surface.
    – (even allowing the extra travel time) why does NASA think it necessary that a modern moon expedition would require at least 2 craft; one carrying the Lander plus the return fuel, and the 2nd carrying the astronauts? Rocket fuel ain’t what it used to be?
    – why is the intense radiation 以外 the van Allen belts a showstopper today (again, from NASA’s own planning docs), when it had been so elegantly overcome in 1969?

    Parenthetically, by the end of the ’60s, the Soviets had fallen so far behind the US that they gave up. Despite being generations ahead of the US in the space race through the mid 60s, with the technology they had available, they would need 1.3 meters of lead to adequately shield their crew and craft. Meanwhile the Americans got the same performance out of some gold foil covered aluminium sheet. Stunned, the Soviets folded their tent and bowed out of the race.

    The corollary question to the above, is:
    Instead of re-inventing the wheel, why can’t NASA just dust off the old Apollo files and see how the engineering giants that walked the earth in those days did it?
    With today’s engineering and manufacturing technology, surely we could be watching an American walking in Armstrong’s footprints in a couple of years, 3 max. At a fraction of the original cost and risk, NASA could single handedly Make America Great Again. There’s gotta be some political mileage in that. No?

    The latter is, of course, a trick question. It turns out that all the data, everything including all of the 700 cases of film and 13,000 reels of comms, telemetry and crew biodata that the Apollo missions “generated” was “lost” shortly after the program shut down. The same apparently happened to all the engineering drawings, test results, manufacturing files, etc that NASA and its contractors generated to produce those technological wonders, and the same with almost all the “moonrocks” Apollo “brought back”. A tragedy that rivals the great fire that engulfed the Library at Alexandria.
    Imagine, instead of being multi-plicated and stored in hermetically sealed, climate controlled vaults, all that priceless data from the greatest technological feat in the history of mankind got tossed out with the ground controllers’ empty pizza boxes and coffee cups.
    A case of “Been there, done that”? Gotta move on? Horse hockey! I think they were afraid that the Soviets might get their hands on a copy and figure out how NASA “did” it.

    Unfortunately Ron, a reasonable person’s default judgement of any statement on any substantive subject of socio-political import, by any “official” or “authoritative” source is to consider it false in the absence of extraordinary evidence. You are absolutely right that asking those “simple questions” is how you get to that evidence, or expose the black hole in the statement, but ya gotta know a “simple question” when you see one.

    • 回复: @Ivan
  174. JackOH 说:
    @TheJester

    TheJester, I saw on TV yesterday that Calhoun Hall at Yale had been renamed. “Radical falsification of history” is spot on. Can any thinking, feeling human being believe we’re actually better off for erasing history?

  175. Ivan 说:
    @Kyle McKenna

    He has got the critical mass of knowledgeable commentators to fact check assertions. One usually learns a few new things perusing the comments. The signal to noise ratio of the comments is high. This comes about as there is no censorship; since those who want to comment obsessively have had their say and they themselves usually tire out, while those with a contrary view are heard.

  176. Anonymous [AKA "newscaper"] 说:
    @CCZ

    ‘Educational Leadership’ doctorate is only fractionally more rigorous than African American Studies, and mainly exists so educrats can get an automatic pay raise.
    BTW I notice that neither that nor PT is a PhD as such.

  177. Ivan 说:
    @Erebus

    I have often wondered why it is, that the Chinese who want to land a man on the moon are taking so long. They’ve had time enough to copy the Americans and the Russians. They have all the money. My feeling is that apart from great technical advances, the Americans were running on a good deal of luck. I think the modern day NASA wants a very high level of safety, which accounts for all the extra redundancies.

    http://watergate.info/1969/07/20/an-undelivered-nixon-speech.html

    • 回复: @Erebus
  178. Erebus 说:
    @Ivan

    … the Americans were running on a good deal of luck.

    They certainly were, and apparently on a good deal of magic as well.

    Apollo’s luck parallels other dubious narratives like 9/11 and the Holocaust. Besides their obvious physical implausibility and PR and financial pay-offs, they share the uncanny luck of having all of the hard evidence supposedly backing them being “lost”.
    Given their recentness, the vast documentation and physical evidence each generated, and if “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action,” that’s too lucky by half.

    • 回复: @Ivan
  179. @joef

    I think you’re referring to the aftermath of the Port Chicago disaster, in which munitions exploded during loading, and a high proportion of the dead were black stevedores. If I recall rightly, their 120 dead were something like 15% of African American fatalities in WW2. Subsequently they mutinied rather than load munitions in unsafe conditions and were court-martialed.
    Blacks were rarely allowed near the front line in WW2, being mostly service or rear echelon troops, and exaggerating their contribution is probably an over-reaction to the racism with which they were treated. Germans captured some African American troops at the Bulge (some were apparently also murdered after capture) and their propaganda newsreels could not avoid juxtaposing “Aryan” German soldiers with the allegedly racially inferior blacks that America was fielding.

    • 回复: @joef
  180. According to Wikipedia, the African American death toll at Port Chicago was 202, but it confirms it as being 15% of the African American death toll in the Second World War among naval personnel, though I was under the impression it was the total death toll in all the American armed forces, which only allowed limited front line service by African Americans.

  181. joef 说:
    @Uebersetzer

    Thank you for your response. Several things: Blacks were not permitted to participate in the front lines of WW2 because at the time they were not considered reliable. Therefore their actual contribution was limited, however this is not the case with subsequent Korean and Vietnam wars because of military integration.

    The point is that if libs want to praise the front line contributions of Blacks in war, why not concentrate on those wars that Blacks actually participated on the front lines as opposed to WW2. If the libs emphasized that Blacks would have been just a proportionately involved in ww2 front line activity as subsequent wars, but it was official prejudice that prevented that, well then they could make up a case for that. But instead the libs try to reinvent history re: Black contribution in ww2, thus losing much credibility in the process. Why can we not just report the 真相 (the facts as they actually happened)?

    Regarding the Port Washington disaster: Again it was just as dangerous unloading those same munitions as loading them. White, Filipino, and Hispanic Sailors had to unload those 非常一样 munitions in much more difficult circumstances on the front lines of the war, at times being strafed by enemy fire. I am sure there were some accidents, yet there were no mutinies (performing their duty to help the war effort)…
    In addition there were many Black riots in American cities during WW2. Think of it during the greatest struggle that America ever had to participate in, a world wide conflict, enough Afro Americans were disloyal enough to riot and mutiny, while American blood was being shed overseas.

    Pres Clinton pardoned the Port Washington Sailors as a political opportunity to pander to African Americans. The real question is if other races did the same thing, there probably never would have been any presidential pardon, and never would have been an issue that the lib MSM would have championed. Everyone was needed in this world war effort to defeat the Axis, in which many gave their lives, some never being more than 20 miles from home before they were sent overseas & killed in action. And when we needed the Afro Americans most, to load munitions stateside, they failed to come through.

  182. Considering that Jim Crow was still in force, I am surprised African Americans were as loyal as they were. For example, a major scandal arose in the South because black servicemen were denied service in a cafe or restaurant that opened its doors to German prisoners of war held in the USA.
    I have also seen a colour photo from WW2 of black American soldiers using mine detectors on a beach in Italy to clear mines left by the Germans. Segregation resulted in all-black units but I wonder if they were put on this particular hazardous duty because they were considered expendable.
    Good service from troops treated as second-class citizens, which black Americans certainly were in WW2, is certainly not something that can be taken for granted.

    • 回复: @joef
  183. joef 说:
    @Uebersetzer

    Actually the biggest riot took place in Detroit 1943… As far as Blacks being mistreated, yeah and so were all the other immigrants who came to America, and were still being discriminated against during that time. However they did not riot, nor did they commit mutinies in mass like afro americans did. If we are always looking to give afro americans a pass for every misbehavior, and never holding them accountable for their actions, then race relations will never improve. That is because there is enough of us, of other races (and some Blacks themselves), who will not be convinced by the liberal propaganda which attempts to deny reality.

    I have mentioned in previous posts that I was born & raised in an urban area within the BosWash area (NYC, Newark, Philly, Baltimore, etc … mostly the same kind of crap). In 70s I was in a public middle school that was federally imposed desegregated. The results were afro american students who were already 15 to 18 years old coming into the school disrupting the learning environment, and robbing the 11 to 13 year old students at knife point (and sometimes at gunpoint).

    Violence was the norm, learning was not, with teachers federally mandated to pander to academically low performing afros while ignoring the violence at the same time. In that environment you learned a street wise lesson that govt interventions were a sham of political theatre, and that afros like easy targets so its important to try to make yourself a hard target. But all this came at a loss of an actual academic education.

    Fast forward when I went to a Catholic High School where every student, white & black, had to achieved the same academic standards, and was made accountable for their behavior. As a result Black students were respected by the other students, because there were no special politically correct treatment for Blacks; they had to pull their weight. It was not like public school where everything an afro does is fraudulently praised by the school.

    If afros want respect in society they should stop complaining, be responsible for their own actions, recognize that life is not fair for most people, and that achievements of the middle class was from hard work (and not some mythical misbegotten gains of white privilege). In other words: Its time for them to grow up!

  184. Ivan 说:
    @Erebus

    NASA’s abilities to lose vast quantities of technical documentation and historical lore, that were made at very great cost; documenting experiments and processes that are possibly irreplaceable since they were developed by men who had vast technical and scientific knowledge and vision, is certainly a cause for concern.

  185. MarkinLA 说:
    @utu

    Anybody can learn to write (reasonably well) and I am a prime example of that. I left UCLA with a double major in math and a funny hybrid that didn’t require me to take regular Engineering School basics, it was called math/computer science. I couldn’t write to save my life.

    When I went back to grad school, I was forced to write. Luckily for me, we now had word processors instead of depending on typewriters. You learn to write by writing and re-writing what you wrote until you can organize your thoughts and boil them down into something coherent and concise. My writing was even praised by one of the professors. I had to explain to him that I rewrote that section 20 times.

    NO amount of practice can help someone without innate mathematical ability. Now what an engineer needs to know may not be anything close to what a real student of math needs but the idea that someone with an average intelligence can do it is just not true. Nobody that I worked with in all my years of engineering was anything less than well above average when it came to intelligence – more than a few were significantly above average. Unfortunately, I wasn’t one of those truly gifted, but I did manage to have enough smarts to never have to worry about being out of a job.

    This is the great fallacy in school – that if somebody just took high school math they could be a mathematician. Total BS. I breezed through high school math and gave up all thoughts of being a mathematician once I got to college and found out what real math is and just how lacking I was compared to the truly gifted students.

    As a middling math major I saw all types from the guy who should change his major to the slightly above average like me to the undergrad who can talk to the professor at the professor’s level while an entire class of undergrad math majors can’t make out a word the two are saying to each other.

    You have a harder and harder time to visualize the concepts of higher math as you go up the ladder. It makes it hard to see what is being proved or the next step to take. Those truly gifted actually do see the concepts as real objects that they can rotate, poke at, and view from all angles.

  186. joef 说:

    Three young men were arrested for beating up a Navy veteran who asked them to stop torturing a turtle.

    Well lets guess who did that one…of course if it was three white perpetrators we would never hear the end of the biased news reporting…but since it was three afro male 青少年 , it is mostly downplayed & will be forgotten. This is especially true because Libs (who are sheltered from real world experience with the urban ghetto) are scared to contemplate the level of hatred that these afros have in order to torture an innocent animal, and attack its defender.

    As far as the MSM is concerned, if afros are behaving badly:
    we should accept it;
    we should ignore it;
    we should give excuses for it;
    we should blame whitey instead.
    Pandering Libs want us all to be willing victims to afro aggression in order to appease their guilty feelings. If you demand that afros do not behave badly, you are then called the racist.

    Leftist love when Blacks are kept on the noble savage level as their political pets. But how does this placement help Blacks who do not want to be afros behaving badly? Well the answer is that the leftist call them uncle toms in order to attempt to shame them back into afros behaving badly.

    And how is this Leftist program, of making afros behave badly, dependent on the system, suppose to alleviate this dysfunction? Well judging by the results of the last fifty years, it is not unreasonable to assume that there is no intention to uplift Blacks from this situation.

    And how do the Republicrat neocon corporatist respond to this mess: they don’t. Instead they create foreign boogie men, and ignore the domestic terrorism committed by afros in order to appease the MSM. Afros commit more acts of violence, against their fellow citizens, than any other group category (including terrorist). The physical violence is bad enough even when not including the economic burden of the govt transfers for endless entitlements that afros receive.

    This is simply not sustainable in the longterm, but nothing will be done about it. That is because people today do not have the fortitude to demand that afros should not behave badly (as if such a request is equivalent to genocide). Eventually chaos will arrive, and the first to go will be the mentally disordered libs who continually deny reality. Let them become the first victims of the destructive Frankenstein monster that they helped to create.

  187. Dissident 说:
    @MarkinLA

    [切线出发]

    Are you a butt-hurt Black Studies major?

    When did this metaphor (“butthurt”) that is an obvious vulgar reference to buggery become popular? Surely the timing must correlate with the normalization of that vile and inordinately 促进疾病 act that was achieved primarily by the noxious combination of the “LGBTQ” Revolution and Internet porn.

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
  188. Dissident 说:
    @J.Ross

    Are you affiliated with 4Chan in an official capacity?

    (If not, then was it appropriate to put its URL in the “Optional Website or Link” field for your post?)

  189. MarkinLA 说:
    @Dissident

    Don’t know. Just heard it used a lot. Not even sure it has any real meaning.

  190. @Rurik

    Why do you not endorse this video? Its a joke that perfectly demonstrates the left’s need to attribute to negroes the potential for equal outcome. The only reason for the resulting inequality is, of course, White racism. Do you not recognize that none of this ever happened? Sort of like black inventions.

  191. Anonymous [AKA "Phoebe"] 说:

    I’m old enough to remember some grousing by blacks and other people we now call “progressives” about allocation of financial resources to the space program. And, to be perfectly honest, as an earnest, well-meaning sixth-grader just beginning to engage with world issues, I remember asking myself if the Apollo project was a wise use of money.

    Nevertheless, being allowed to stay up late to watch Neil Armstrong walk on the moon, then going outside to look up at that very moon and marvel at it, was one of the most memorable events of my life, and I’ve always been grateful that I am of the generation that got to experience that.

  192. @Rurik

    我想看这个很久了,终于看了,那是一些有趣的东西。

  193. @Anonymous

    Totally agree…not only did we not send a man to the moon in the 60’s and early 70’s we cant even do it now…which explains why NO ONE has… the van allen belts are the problem that they cant solve… so this article is irrelevant

  194. @Anonymous

    ha…you got duped…we never sent a man to the moon…hell they cant do it NOW…which is why no one else has…google a funny thing happened on the way to the moon and watch it… total hoax…nasa spokesmen have even said as much…google nasa scientist says we cant transverse the van allen belts and listen to what he says… sorry to burst your bubble

  195. ryu289 说:

    “《隐藏人物》的制作有一个明显的痛苦议程,即剥夺白人科学家、物理学家、工程师、数学家、项目经理、航空专家和火箭科学家的贡献的合法性。相反,美国最伟大的胜利显然取决于不知名的黑人女性和一位名叫杰克·克伦肖的白人手动计算已经被计算机确认的轨迹。”

    只是杰克没有对这个白痴下手。
    https://www.city-data.com/forum/movies/2701130-hidden-figures-3.html#post46821963

当前评论者
说:

发表评论-对超过两周的文章发表评论,将在质量和语气上进行更严格的判断


 记得 我的信息为什么?
 电子邮件回复我的评论
$
提交的评论已被许可给 Unz评论 并可以由后者自行决定在其他地方重新发布
在翻译模式下禁用评论
通过RSS订阅此评论主题 通过RSS订阅所有Paul Kersey评论