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这是我在网上反复读到的一句格言:“一个不明确反左的组织,终将被左翼吞并。” 这是另一个我正在临时编造的(尽管我相信其他人之前已经说过很多次了):“一个不明确反对非白人的组织最终会被非白人吞并。”

没有什么地方比 John McWhorter 最近在 国家评论 题为“不再痴迷种族和智商设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

在其中,他假设种族智商差距可能存在,但建议无论如何不要谈论它。 当然,这是完全有道理的,因为 McWhorter 是黑人,并且可以通过压制使像他这样的人看起来很糟糕的真相来获利。 在他的文章中,他给出了旧的平权行动大学尝试的客观论证,但从未解决他作为一个正在淡化他种族的有害缺点的黑人的明显利益冲突。 他甚至在写道:“我一直希望黑白智商差距是由于环境原因造成的时,他甚至承认了自己相当不科学的偏见。” 黑人普遍不具备客观科学推理能力也不足为奇(鉴于历史记录),但事实上 国家评论,即使在目前的衰老状态下,实际上也是在为这样的人提供认可,相反的是。

还要多久 NR 只是减少冗长的琐事并开始从 Black Lives Matter 或 NAACP 招募作家?

当然,我知道 Alt Right 抨击 国家评论 这些日子有点像挖出一匹死马,打到它不再像马一样。 我们都知道比尔·巴克利 (Bill Buckley) 的旗舰出版物在过去已经陷入了多么无关紧要的问题,什么? 三十年? (如果你算上所有 相应 cuckery,但这是另一个故事)。 这里没有什么新鲜事。 但是 McWhorter 的文章是如此不诚实和如此阴险,如果我不回应它,我就会错过一个金红色药丸的机会。

另外,也许我可以羞辱 NR 在漫长而悲伤的告别中,编辑们至少表现出一点自尊。 伙计们,即使对于 cucks,这也是 cucking。

麦克沃特在他的文章开始时询问我们通过讨论黑人的智力劣势可以获得什么。 你能想象有人问这个问题关于任何其他话题吗? 从什么时候开始成为科学问题(在这种情况下,进化和遗传学等)适合 不能 要讨论的? 在苏联的一段时间里,如果他们敢于挑战特罗菲姆·李森科的虚假科学,他们就会把人拉到北极圈砍伐 XNUMX 年的木材。 穆斯林世界也充满了禁忌话题,如果在公共场合提出可能会导致一个人死亡(我特别想起了纳布卢斯的穆斯林大学教授,他敢于建议,根据 Infogalactic 的说法,“伊斯兰教在历史上逐渐发展成为一种宗教犹太教和基督教的背景,而不是先知的启示。”他是 扔出窗外 由他的学生为他的努力)。

所以,是的,限制对科学思想的自由讨论有很多先例。 但是这些先例是任何文明社会都应该效仿的吗? 麦克沃特似乎是这么认为的。

McWhorter 没有提到好心的白人每年花费巨额资金和无法估量的努力,以减少所有领域的黑白表现差距,而不仅仅是在智商测试中。 这里的前提是黑人和白人有同等的能力,因此应该在生活中享有同等的结果。 所以这就是我们应该尽可能多地讨论智商和人类气质的遗传成分的原因之一:它会揭示提升黑人的时间和资源是多么的浪费。

第二个原因是它会让小白摆脱困境。 如果人类智力,在心理测量学中表示为 g, 主要是遗传,那么你不能因为他们没有制造的问题而责怪无辜的白人。 这要么会减少左派反白人种族主义的数量,要么会鼓励白人抵制这种种族主义。 这两种结果本质上都是好的,并且源于对智商和人类气质的遗传基础的公开讨论。

为了捍卫他的直觉,即养育总是胜过自然——至少在谈到黑人缺点时——麦克沃特试图使“美国黑人文化”合法化,他写道:

从毫不客气的压迫性奴隶制发展而来,随后是吉姆·克劳(Jim Crow)霸权,从本质上概括了奴隶制。 这些人生活在我的语言学家的培训中,显示的是一种生活在口头而非读写能力中的生活。 只能通过随意说话而不是写作技巧来生活,这会导致心理疾病,使他们在被称为智商测试的截然不同的现代特技中得分很高。

这有很多问题,这让我想知道是否 国家评论 编辑们降低了他们对黑人作家的编辑标准。 大学以几乎相同的方式降低了黑人申请者的学术标准。

首先,美国的黑人奴隶制从来没有“无情的压迫”。 按照当时的标准,美国白人对待他们的黑人奴隶相当友善。 奴隶被允许结婚,并努力使家庭团聚。 他们通常在周日休息,并被允许实践他们选择的宗教。 此外,少数人甚至被允许购买自己的自由。 Thomas Nelson Page 将这一切 黑人:南方人的问题 并且还指出了在革命和内战期间,如果黑人奴隶只起身反抗他们的主人,他们是如何获得自由的。 他们在很大程度上拒绝了。 在美国南部的许多地方,白人和黑人之间至少有亲切的关系,如果不是深情的话。

如果你想要的是“无情的压迫性”奴隶制,那就看看非洲的黑人对黑人的奴隶制,或者更好的是,穆斯林对黑人的奴隶制。 根据 MA​​ Khan 在 伊斯兰圣战组织, 穆斯林将超过 2 万黑人奴隶赶出非洲 仅在 19 世纪 – 与 400,000 多年跨大西洋奴隶贸易沿线带到北美的 400 名黑人奴隶相去甚远。 罗纳德·西格尔,在 伊斯兰教的黑奴,指出伊斯兰奴隶贩子可能总共奴役了大约 1.9 万黑人,估计高达 11.7 万。 在许多情况下,她们的生活真的很悲惨,女人作为性奴隶辛勤劳作,男人作为征兵士兵或厨房奴隶被活活干死。 几乎在所有情况下,被伊斯兰奴隶贩子俘虏的男性黑人奴隶都要忍受阉割,这种做法在美国的白人基督教前哨几乎闻所未闻。 请记住,XNUMX% 到 XNUMX% 的黑人奴隶在进入穆斯林世界之前就已经死亡,这与在穿越大西洋途中死亡的 XNUMX% 黑人奴隶(根据我的统计,XNUMX 万中有 XNUMX 万)相差甚远。 文明的主流 1989 年的历史教科书)。

然后 McWhorter 试图向我们推销 Jim Crow 法律“在本质上概括了奴隶制”的想法,但没有告诉我们如何。 是的,吉姆克劳法强制推行白人对黑人的霸权,但它也降低了黑人犯罪率,除了奴隶制之外,它所做的比其他任何事情都更能保护黑人免受自己的伤害。 Thomas Nelson Page 再次报告了在奴隶制和 Jim Crow 之间的重建时期,黑人犯罪率(包括性犯罪)如何爆炸式增长。 Stephan 和 Abigail Thernstrom,在他们的研究中 黑色和白色的美国,展示黑人犯罪如何再次爆发,这一次是在 1960 年代中期 Jim Crow 去世之后。 此外,没有吉姆·克劳(Jim Crow)让他们保持一致,黑人私生和吸毒已经失控。 那么吉姆克劳究竟是如何概括奴隶制的呢? 在奴隶制期间,奴隶必须留在原地或成为不法之徒。 在吉姆克劳时期,黑人有行动自由,可以上学校和大学。 他们可以辞掉工作,自己创业。 他们还享受大部分由白人纳税人支付的免费公共教育和政府服务。 (这种慷慨 顺便说一句,截至 2014 年,平均白人在 220,000 年的生命周期内向系统投入超过 79 美元,而在大致同一时期,平均黑人投入超过 750,000 美元。)

我知道,在吉姆·克劳七十五多年的岁月里,黑人仍然没有白人享有同样的自由和生活水平。 但他们肯定更安全。 在那段时间里,他们也比世界上绝大多数人都过得更好。 例如,从 1890 年到 1965 年(大约是吉姆克劳法的生命周期),发生了许多比吉姆克劳更糟糕的灾难,这些灾难摧毁了全球各地的人们,他们从此再也没有用这些灾难来解释他们为什么回避识字。 撇开像两次世界大战这样的明显事件,其中包括亚美尼亚种族灭绝(1915 年)、俄罗斯内战(1920 年代初)以及随后的大饥荒(1920 年代末至 1930 年代初)以及大约 1943 年的古拉格犹太人大屠杀,印度的孟加拉饥荒(1959 年)和毛泽东在中国的大饥荒(1962-XNUMX 年)。 所有这些事件夺去了数百万人的生命,并在几十年间扰乱了数百万人的生活。 然而,这些人都没有像约翰麦克沃特使用奴隶制和吉姆克劳那样将这些历史事件作为失败的借口。

事实上,麦克沃特的文盲压迫论点真的只适用于黑人。 它在另一个层面上失败了,因为在他们在非洲的悠久历史中,很少有黑人从一开始就识字。 他的论点假设奴隶制和吉姆克劳将黑人束缚在“口头”而不是“识字”上。 但不是。 黑人,尤其是撒哈拉以南地区的黑人——从一开始就是文盲。 在与白人或阿拉伯人接触之前,几乎没有关于撒哈拉以南非洲人的书面历史记录。 很少有关于数学、天文学或其他类型高等教育的记录。 地图很少。 很少有关于簿记、食谱、诗歌、祈祷、戏剧的书面例子。 如果我们想研究 500 年前非洲的过去,我们将不得不聘请考古学家团队,或者查阅我们能找到的白人或阿拉伯人所写的任何记录。

事实上,接触白人文明,即使是作为奴隶,也比历史上任何其他事情都更能帮助黑人识字。 毕竟,白人向他们介绍了基督教并教他们阅读圣经。 在那之前,亚萨拉汉的黑人在读什么? 国家评论 应该为此感到尴尬:发表一些让历史完全反响的东西。 美国的奴隶制并没有在黑人文化中灌输“口语”,因为黑人文化已经盛行了。 如果有的话,美国的奴隶制消除了一些“口头”,并迈出了用实际识字取而代之的第一步。

然后是 McWhorter 在心理测量学上的廉价镜头。 智商测试不过是“噱头”吧? 也就是说,根据 McWhorter 的说法,这都是宣传和公关,而不是实际的教育测量。 McWhorter 能否指出考试中的实际问题并解释它们如何不足以衡量智力? 他能否向我们展示不仅智商测试出错的地方,还有 SAT、LSAT、GRE、MCAT 以及其他所有标准化测量,它们也报告说黑人的智力水平最低? 当然,他不能,他也不会。 这让我想起了心理测量学家对史蒂文杰伊古尔德尖锐的反测试论战的反应, 人的错位,这本质上是忽略它。

然后是 McWhorter 文章的症结所在:为什么我们应该避免在密集的学术著作之外谈论黑白智商差距。 他给出了为什么任何人都想对这个话题“诚实”的三个原因(他的恐吓语录,不是我的)。 第二个和第三个几乎不值得讨论,因为它们纯粹是幻想。 麦克沃特本人也承认第二个原因,那就是对智商的诚实将激励白人对黑人进行更多慈善,现在被指定为“特殊需要”的种族。 他的第三个原因是,有些人认为,诚实对待智商将有助于我们庆祝种族差异。 也就是说,大概有些种族真的很聪明,而另一些种族则擅长其他事情,比如挖沟或运球或者你有什么。 就像那样会很好。

这些原因都不是真正的原因。 但 McWhorter 的第一个原因是。 这是它的全部内容:

首先是智商差距使致力于纠正黑人遭受的不公正的政策失去了合法性。 也就是说,有人可能会争辩说,由于黑人的平均智商低于其他人,我们努力帮助黑人儿童接受教育并为贫困黑人提供就业机会是错误的。 相反,社会应该接受不成比例的黑人将在职业规模的底部工作,并且总体而言,黑人在社会较高阶层中的代表性不足。

对此的正确回应是“而且……? 先生,您的意思是?” 这一次,McWhorter 是绝对正确的。 但这里的问题是,这样的论证会得出一个结论,即他(并且可能是 NR 编辑)根本不喜欢。 因此,它不会......真相该死。

麦克沃尔特试图从宿命论的角度来表达他的厌恶。 从根本上说,他认为白人实在太可笑了,无法接受这样的“残酷开放,基于种族的人道主义共识”。 那么既然不可能实现,那为什么要谈论它呢?

那些对这样一个结论的想法感到反感的人——包括我——可以放心,尽管西方的道德发展停滞不前且不完美,但它已经形成了一道反对自满地接受种族分层的堡垒。 正如我经常写的那样,特别是受过教育的美国人现在怀有一种反种族主义的宗教,它永远不会接受这种思维方式,因为它只是过时和道德上令人厌恶的。

好吧,这可能是关于大学生和研究生 McWhorter 作为哥伦比亚大学语言学教授身边的人,但这并不是关于白人开始意识到忽视种族真相所带来的代价。 这是唐纳德特朗普去年 XNUMX 月获胜的重要原因之一。 白人开始觉醒并意识到种族差异需要公开讨论,然后作为官方政策的一部分采取行动。 这是我们可以避免被非白人(包括约翰·麦克沃特所代表的黑人)剥削并最终吞并的唯一方法。 他可能会将他们描绘成需要保护自己免受真相影响的弱者和受害者,但种族差异远远超出了智商的范畴。 黑人在他们的社区中也有荒谬的犯罪、暴力、吸毒和腐败——就像他们在他们的家乡非洲大陆一样。 当真相大白时,他们似乎不再像受害者了。 其实恰恰相反。

McWhorter 在他的文章结尾处也散发出一丝威胁的意味。 避免讨论种族的另一个原因是什么? 为什么,当然是暴力威胁! 观察:

作为一个话题,其讨论会产生伤害、愤怒和双重谈话,而在社会应该如何运作的规定方面没有抵消的好处,它应该被排除在公开讨论之外。

也是 国家评论 允许其中一位作家真正威胁人们进入集体思维? McWhorter 是否说如果他们在他的一间教室里公开讨论种族问题,他会亲自伤害一个人? 或者他会坐下来看着他的学生这样做,因为煽动者可能已经来了? 这就像布尔康纳警告黑人不要抱怨被困在公共汽车后面,因为这样的谈话也可能导致“伤害、愤怒和双重谈话”。 这是否意味着 McWhorter 也支持压制这种言论?

没有 国家评论 编辑甚至 这篇文章发表之前? 他们没有看到背后的阴险威胁吗? McWhorter 告诉我们,不要再说比赛了,否则你会受伤的。 这真的是信息吗 国家评论 希望给它的读者? 或者也许这是一种被动攻击性的尝试,以恐吓像我这样喜欢坦率谈论种族但通常不阅读的人 国家评论?

当麦克沃特列出他对种族“诚实”的三个原因时,他忘记了第四个原因:白人民族主义。 种族差异是指占据同一空间、争夺同一资源的不同种族普遍不相容。 由于这些差异是基于遗传学的,因此几乎没有人可以对它们做些什么。 随着非白人的数量不断增加,白人对他们所了解和喜爱的美国的认识将越来越少。 很快,它甚至不再是美国,白人将被迫为他们一开始就不应该放弃的东西而战。 这是将坦率的种族讨论藏在壁橱里的最终代价,而且我敢肯定,没有人愿意为此付出代价。 因此,如果种族承认我们的差异并尽快分开,这对所有人来说都是最好的。

但要实现这一点,白人需要从禁止黑人政策开始, 国家评论 在出版 John McWhorter 的蒙昧主义言论之前应该采用。

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  1. Svigor 说:

    McWhorter 在他的文章开始时询问我们通过讨论黑人在智力上的劣势来获得什么。

    There’s a very simple answer to this: we can get the false charges against whites thrown out of court. The current argument is that whites must pay (in perpetuity) for “breaking” blacks. But blacks were already broken when whites found them. So whites are not responsible for black failure, Mother Nature is. (I note that the author makes this point, though I don’t prefer the “off the hook” language)

    从毫不客气的压迫性奴隶制发展而来,随后是吉姆·克劳(Jim Crow)霸权,从本质上概括了奴隶制。 这些人生活在我的语言学家的培训中,显示的是一种生活在口头而非读写能力中的生活。 只能通过随意说话而不是写作技巧来生活,这会导致心理疾病,使他们在被称为智商测试的截然不同的现代特技中得分很高。

    50 years after Segregation’s end, blacks still live in “orality.” 99% still believe the false 叙述,其中白人在非洲俘虏黑人并奴役他们。 不,黑人捕获黑人,奴役他们,然后将他们卖给白人。

    如果你想要的是“无情的压迫”奴隶制,那么看看非洲的黑人对黑人的奴隶制,或者更好的是,穆斯林对黑人的奴隶制。 根据伊斯兰圣战组织的马汗的说法,仅在 2 世纪,穆斯林就将超过 19 万黑奴赶出了非洲——这与 400,000 多年间跨大西洋奴隶贸易被带到北美的 400 万黑奴相去甚远. 罗纳德·西格尔 (Ronald Segal) 在伊斯兰教的黑奴 (Islam's Black Slaves) 中指出,伊斯兰奴隶贩子总共可能奴役了大约 1.9 万黑人,估计高达 11.7 万。 在许多情况下,她们的生活真的很悲惨,女性作为性奴隶辛勤劳作,而男性则作为应征士兵或厨房奴隶被工作至死。 几乎在所有情况下,被伊斯兰奴隶贩子俘虏的男性黑人奴隶都被阉割,这种做法在美国的白人基督教前哨几乎闻所未闻。 请记住,1989% 到 XNUMX% 的黑奴甚至在到达穆斯林世界之前就已经死亡,这与在穿越大西洋途中死亡的黑奴的 XNUMX% 相去甚远(根据我的数据,XNUMX 万中的 XNUMX 万是XNUMX年主流文明史教科书)。

    其他几个相关点:

    1 黑人奴隶在战争中被其他黑人俘虏和奴役; 最终被奴役的被征服的黑人是幸运的; 其余的被处死。

    2 Roughly 11 million slaves are estimated to have come to the New World via the transatlantic trade; the 400,000 who didn’t go to North America went to other parts of the Western Hemisphere, which were much more deadly to slaves than North America was. Millions of them were simply worked to death in the jungles of the Caribbean, Central America, and South America. Brazil was particularly nasty, and the trade there was almost entirely in the hands of the Jews (and crypto-Jews).

    我知道黑人仍然没有在吉姆克劳的七十五多年里与白人一样的自由和生活水平。

    They certainly lived beyond their means, though, thanks to whites – as they have since their arrival in this hemisphere.

    麦克沃尔特试图从宿命论的角度来表达他的厌恶。 从根本上说,他认为白人实在太可笑了,无法接受这样的“残酷开放,基于种族的人道主义共识”。 那么既然不可能实现,那为什么要谈论它呢?

    白人永远不会得出这样的结论,所以我们应该禁止白人试图说服对方得出这样的结论。 我想这是黑人素养。

    PS,我想建议我们鼓励犹太人与黑人交配。 犹太人与黑人的通婚率接近于零,这是一个肮脏的犹太小秘密。 但我希望犹太人的智商可以用来将黑人的智商提高到白人的平均水平。

  2. Another point that Steve Sailer has made is that if we start acknowledging the average black-white IQ difference, it might lead to a exposition of the consequences of the average white-Jewish IQ difference, which is approximately the same.

    国家评论 is long gone in the Cult of Negro Veneration. This article is just another example.

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
    , @Anonymous
  3. “McWhorter’s illiteracy-by-oppression argument … fails on an additional level since, in their long history in Africa, very few blacks were literate to begin with”. Many Christians congratulate their missionaries for bringing literacy to Africa. Think about that. Why was it necessary? Where else did Christian missionaries need to bring literacy to?
    As Muhammad Ali said in 1974, when returning from the “Rumble in the Jungle”, “I’m glad my grandpappy got on that boat”. Ali had been to Africa and wanted no part of it.
    In 1994 or 1995, shortly after the Bell Curve was published, National Review devoted an issue to discussing the Bell Curve. I doubt National Review would publish anything like that today.
    I’ll see if I can find the issue.

    • 回复: @jilles dykstra
  4. Svigor 说:

    Another point that Steve Sailer has made is that if we start acknowledging the average black-white IQ difference, it might lead to a exposition of the consequences of the average white-Jewish IQ difference, which is approximately the same.

    More like half. Israeli Jewish IQ drags the Jewish mean way down (to about 108), and there’s no principled reason to exclude it.

    • 回复: @Logan
  5. A major problem for people like McWhorter is that once you open up the topic of race-based differences, it may move beyond simple IQ differences, into genetically-based comportement differences, which may be much more important. Blacks are not only, on average, less intelligent than whites they also have less impulse control, a much shorter future-time orientation, a propensity for violence and much more promiscuous sexual behavior–all probably a result of evolving in a high disease load tropical environment. If blacks were simply less intelligent versions of whites, the problems woud be much more manageable, but their dysfunctional communities are also a product of dysfunctional behavior. This would justify two sets of laws and standards: one for whites and another for blacks. For example, it ought to be increasingly obvious to everyone that blacks simply should not have access to firearms. Their lack of impulse control and disregard of consequences exacerbate their genetic propensity to violence. Black disputes settled with fists or even knives would lead to much lower death and injury rates than what we have now. The notions that blacks can govern themselves in a democratic system devised by whites is also be open to challenge. Blacks elect representatives (e.g., Hank Johnson, who does not know that islands are anchored to the seabed and fears that they can tip over) whose stupidity is so manifest that the notion that he ought to be voting on laws to which whites will be subject would be laughable if if weren’t so sad.

    • 同意: MBlanc46
    • 回复: @Corvinus
    , @K
    , @hoops
  6. George 说:

    The article needs to get with the times and address East and South Asians not to mention South Ameticans. Who cares about blacks and whites? Based on your iq theories Asians need low IQ individuals to work food service, what do they need white people for?

    “huge sums of money and incalculable amounts of effort on the part of well-meaning whites being expended every year in order to reduce black-white performance gaps”

    You mean the largely white/Jewish inceasingly Asian educratocracy? The money goes into salaries and benefits, and increasingly retirees. The various crusades and fads like the race gap are not where the money goes.

  7. In 1785 Thomas Jefferson wrote, “Notes on the State of Virginia”. From page 266 in my copy, “Comparing [Negroes] by their faculties of memory, reason, and imagination, it appears to me, that in memory they are equal to the whites; in reason much inferior, as I think one could scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in imagination they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous”.
    这儿这儿。

    • 回复: @Corvinus
    , @iffen
  8. Here’s a dictum I have read now and again on the internet: “an organization that isn’t explicitly anti-Left will eventually be swallowed up by the Left.”

    But the ‘left’ changed so much.

    Looks like the classic left is gone for good, and the new left got swallowed by capitalist consumer decadence.

    And look at China. Maoism lost out to capitalism and nationalism.

    And Soviet Union gave way to what became eventually conservative Russia.

    We keep hearing that the ‘left’ won the culture war, but no classic leftist would consider ‘gay marriage’ and ’50 gender’ degeneracy as anything leftist.

    No, Jewish Supremacists won, and they use homomania as proxy of bogus ‘progressivism’.

    In the 90s, Democrats went ‘new democrat’ and adopted much of Reagan-Thatcherism.
    And Hillary turned into jingo-globo-imperialist, far worse than Johnson-Nixon put together.
    ‘Leftists’ made peace with ultra-militarists.

    • 回复: @RobRich
    , @Dissident
  9. McWhorter is a smart guy, but he has lotsa white genes.

    Maybe he fears that his intelligence will be seen as ‘white’, and then blacks will reject mulattoes as rightful leaders and spokesmen of the black community.

    Often, black leaders are mulattoes, and their advantages are ‘white’. They got white intelligence and saner white temperament.

    Likewise, if we were to count mulattoes as ‘white’, their advantage in sports would owe to their black genes.

    • 回复: @Jake
  10. Also, perhaps I could shame the NR editors into showing at least a little self-respect during their long, sad goodbye. Guys, even for cucks, this is cucking.

    Good article, but it too cucks by pretending that the main problem is about IQ.

    Seriously, if blacks had lower IQ but had the physique of Emmanuel Lewis, would it matter?

    No, the real threat to whites is muscular, vocal, and genital.

    Blacks are more muscular and destroy white pride by kicking white butt.
    Blacks got bigger voices and this makes whites respect blacks as ‘masterful’.
    Blacks got bigger dongs, and jungle fever further humiliates white men cuz of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization of white wombs.

    Those are the real reasons why whites need safe spaces from blacks.

    Men need pride of manhood for mental health, and white male pride is impossible around blacks due to BAMMAMA factor: blacks are more muscular and more aggressive.

  11. Kyle a 说:
    @Svigor

    我希望犹太人、黑人、亚洲人和混血儿能找到一座岛屿

  12. dearieme 说:
    @Svigor

    “P.S., I would like to suggest that we encourage Jews to breed with blacks. … I have hope that Jewish IQ can be used to raise black IQ to right around the white mean.”

    At last, an actionable suggestion.

    • 回复: @attilathehen
  13. Forbes 说:

    According to M. A. Khan in Islamic Jihad, Muslims herded over 2 million black slaves out of Africa in the 19th century alone – a far cry from the 400,000 black slaves brought to North America along the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade in a span of over 400 years.

    Is it likely that slavery in North America has yet to end, as the first slaves purportedly arrived in Jamestown in 1619.

    • 回复: @FX Enderby
  14. Corvinus 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    “Blacks are not only, on average, less intelligent than whites they also have less impulse control, a much shorter future-time orientation”…

    Actually, whites have a much shorter future-time orientation on average.

    http://akarlin.com/2012/08/why-russia-needs-a-strong-hand

    “a propensity for violence…”

    Poorer people regardless of race have an increased likelihood to engage in violence.

    “and much more promiscuous sexual behavior…”

    不,不是。

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/19/young-white-men-uk-most-hated-social-group-public-attitudes

    https://psmag.com/social-justice/and-the-prize-for-promiscuity-goes-to-generation-x

    “all probably a result of evolving in a high disease load tropical environment.”

    来源或收回。

    “For example, it ought to be increasingly obvious to everyone that blacks simply should not have access to firearms.”

    How would you rectify your proposal to the Second Amendment?

    “Blacks elect representatives (e.g., Hank Johnson, who does not know that islands are anchored to the seabed and fears that they can tip over) whose stupidity is so manifest that the notion that he ought to be voting on laws to which whites will be subject would be laughable if if weren’t so sad.”

    A number of white people elected Donald Trump, whose stupidity is legendary.

  15. Corvinus 说:
    @George Weinbaum

    “In 1785 Thomas Jefferson wrote…”

    Yet in 1791 Jefferson got schooled…

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part2/2h71.html

  16. @Diversity Heretic

    The average so-called “Jew” in the West is substantially Germanic and/or Slavic genetically. If you encounter someone Jewish who denies that or takes umbrage, ask to see their test results from ancestry.com or 23andme or the like.

    So there is no such thing as a “white-Jewish” gap unless people are saying that Sephardic genetically Semitic Jews with no substantial white genes tend to be more measurably intelligent than whites. I don’t think that’s the argument, and I haven’t seen evidence for that.

    “Jews” taking credit for “Jewish” intelligence in the modern USA and Europe are effectively taking credit for their own substantial white European genes (which also tends to mitigate their physical ugliness). (We should say, “you’re welcome.”)

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  17. Truth 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Seriously, if blacks had lower IQ but had the physique of Emmanuel Lewis, would it matter?

    Do you have any idea how many times you’ve used this line? I would say, honestly, about 14; and that’s just on the threads I have read.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  18. ltravail 说:

    Wow! Spencer Quinn, whoever or whatever he is, is illiterate compared to John McWhorter!

  19. 我想知道…

    Would there be this Magic Negro stuff if US and West weren’t Christian?

    Suppose a pagan West had enslaved blacks and later freed them. Maybe they might feel some ‘guilt’ but would they feel this worship of the Negro?

    After all, it was Negrohood + Christianity formula that made the Negro so holy.

    Converted to Christians, Negroes could claim God just as much as the white man. Even during slavery, if the Negro was equal to white man in one regard, it before God. Also, even during Jimmy Crow, even redneck whites couldn’t say God favored white souls over black souls. (I might have said it but I’m not Christian.)

    The image of the lowly Negro who underwent slavery and faced discrimination but had faith in God of justice and goodness is moving. That is undeniable. It’s impossible not to feel love for the black mama in RAISIN IN THE SUN. And Aunt Esther too.

    [更多]

    Also, Christianity is about sanctimony of the poor and wretched, and it is revitalized through story of persecution. Since Negroes were slaves and faced discrimination, their story became more compelling in Christian terms.
    It’s like the Scorsese film SILENCE. The Christian themes become moving again because Christians are persecuted in Japan like in the faith’s founding when Christians were hounded by Jews and crushed by Romans. It was the religion of the powerless.
    In powerful Europe, the Portuguese priests are full of faith but they are put to the test. They were raised as Christians from cradle, and Christian power is all around them. So, as devout and faithful as they are, their Christianity isn’t compelling since they aren’t put thru the wringer like Jesus and Disciples were. But in Japan, they muster all the spiritual courage and strength to remain faithful to God.

    So, even as Christian Powers sought dominion over heathens all around the world and forced them to conversion, they also found the suffering of the conquered more compelling from a Christian perspective. These suffering Christian converts who lived under White Power were like the early Christians who got whupped by Jews and Romans. And in the US, Negroes often had little more than faith to keep their hopes alive and feel dignity as so much of white society was calling them ‘coons’ and stuff.

    Notice that Muslims never much went about idolizing the Negro as holy magic negro. Islam isn’t into guilt. Also, Islam, like Judaism, doesn’t regard humans as godlike. In contrast, Christianity is premised on the notion that Son of God is also Man. So, some Jewish guy was the Son of God who walked among us. It is almost quasi-paganist. Anyway, even though Christianity says only Jesus was man-as-God, it nevertheless set the template that man can be godlike.
    According to Judaism, only God can be God. No man can be God. Some can be great like Moses or David, but they were not holy. According to Islam, only Allah is God. Muhammad was the greatest prophet but still only a prophet. So, the idea of a holy magic man like Jesus is anathema. In contrast, as Christian West became more secular, it sought out new jesuses or christ-like figures modeled on the Messiah. A secular outgrowth of Judeo-Christianity, Communism, put forth Marx and Lenin as god-like people. It paved the way for cult worship of Stalin, Mao, and Castro. And Che Guevara became a jesus-like figure. Sartre called him ‘perfect man’.
    In the US, the Negro took to Christianity more than American Indians did. As Indians lived apart, white man didn’t much care what the red savage believed. But as Negroes lived next to whites, whites were more mindful of turning them into good Christians. Also, as Negroes were big, muscular, and dangerous, whites feared that unless Negroes worshiped God and remained moral, they would go crazy and act like gangstaz and sex beasts(which they are now).
    As white folks were eager to encourage blacks to be Nice Christians(and not revert to their savage jungle nature), they were very encouraging of black religiosity. Better to have Negroes holler about God than about whupping honk*y.
    Furthermore, as Negroes had these big loud booming voices, they sounded more compelling and authoritative, as if they were the boom boxes of angels who rigged God’s stereophonic system. Granted, not all Negroes sounded BIG like MLK or Darth Vader. If MLK had the voice of Mike Tyson, people might have chuckled.

    Also, there was the rise of electronica. Before electricity took over modern society, people relied on books, newspapers, and local oratory. But electricity meant radio and TV in every home. It meant movie theaters. And millions of TV and radios could beam the same message and content from a handful of corporations that controlled all media. So, if Big Media wanted to beam the image of Holy Negro into every American home, they could through electricity. This way, every white boy and white girl would come under the spell of some mountain-sized Negro who loves a little white mouse in GREEN MILE. American people’s minds are like TV sets. The images and ideas in their heads have been put them by TV’s. A few corporations beam exactly the same content to every TV set, and there are 100s of millions of them. So, all American eyes and ears see and hear exactly the same thing and their minds are filled with them. American brain is just an organic TV set.
    Prior to electricity, every person might read a different paper, book, talk with different people, have different discussions with family and friends. But with the radio and TV, every house came to be affected by EXACT SAME images and sounds.

    In RADIO DAYS, we see how things are changing. It is before TV, and there is family life. Much happens to the people in the movie apart from pop culture and media. But the Radio is always there and changing how people think, feel, and act. Orson Welles WAR OF THE WORLDS was truthful in a way. No, there was no Martian invasion, but the Radio was like an alien invasion. It was a new way of information where EVERY HOUSE was intruded and invaded by the SAME information, ideas, and narratives from some hidden place owned by the powerful. And the issue of WHO gets to control the radiowaves and TV signals would decide the future. Electronica did lead to War of the Worlds as control of mass media means instantly controlling the minds of millions with the same assemblage of words and sounds… and later images with advent of TV.
    (Internet takes this even further, but the difference is the CONTENT can now be created and shared by the individuals whereas prior to the internet, all content was made by handful of big media folks. ) If Woody Allen’s movie focused on the effect of Radio, AVALON by Barry Levinson was about family life and culture that would be wiped out by the coming of TV.
    The family in that movie sells TV and makes good money, but the Tube will destroy the kind of family life and culture they had. RADIO DAYS and AVALON are transitional stories, a time when much of traditional life was still much alive and in a kind of balance with the power of electronic culture. But with rise of youth culture in the 60s, the electronic world destroyed much of family life. Today, many americans are likely to spend more time with fake families on TV than with their own families.

    Anyway, electronica did wonders for the Magic Negro cult since radios and TV’s could transmit MLK’s speech all over American and the world.

    But it still begs the question… why wasn’t there a MLK-like character in Latin America?
    Was it because Latin American culture is more authoritarian and this rubbed off on Negroes?
    One thing I noticed about blacks and mulattoes from Puerto Rico is that they are not as crazy and abrasive as American blacks. It seems Latin culture had a softening effect on them.
    Or maybe it was because Latin American culture was less idealistic, less ‘puritanical’, less reformist, less zealous. In contrast, American moral culture has puritanical roots. So, maybe Latin blacks were more live-and-let-live whereas American blacks be more judgmental.

    American blacks were surely affected by American Anglo individualism, winner-ism, ambitionism, reformism, etc.
    Unlike Latin whites who seemed content with corruption and dysfunction, Anglo whites were always looking to reform things, fix things, expand things, and etc. And American blacks seem to have caught this bug.

    We see this in music too. Afro-latin music is more fun and happy. American black music is more bitter and angry.

    Another reason could be Latin America became more mixed, so there was no stark black vs white dichotomy as existed in America. One could never tell who was what in Latin America. A white wasn’t always white, a black wasn’t always black, and brown could be anything.
    And maybe Catholicism had a dampening effect on individual ego. If MLK and Jesse Jackson had been Catholics, maybe they would have been more likely to follow Church orders than take things into their own hands and talk big like Patton.

  20. CCZ 说:

    So genes “strongly influence” how we look at other peoples faces and may underlie how we develop socially, but that information is only useful for “understanding autism” and nothing else?

    Study of How We Look at Faces May Offer Insight Into Autism
    NY Times July 12, 2017

    “How we look at other people’s faces is strongly influenced by our genes, scientists have found in new research that may be especially important for understanding autism because it suggests that people are born with neurological differences that affect how they develop socially.

    The study, published on Wednesday in the journal Nature, adds new pieces to the nature-versus-nurture puzzle, suggesting that genetics underlie how children seek out formative social experiences like making eye contact or observing facial expressions. Experts said the study may also provide a road map for scientists searching for genes linked to autism.”

  21. @Corvinus

    Actually, whites have a much shorter future-time orientation on average.

    http://akarlin.com/2012/08/why-russia-needs-a-strong-hand

    Umm… did you look at your own reference?

    “Confirming all the stereotypes, the Germanic peoples (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) were at the very top of the charts.”

    The only data presented in the link directly contradicts your assertion. Granted, there is high variance in white countries, with Russia scoring quite low. But on average, the included white countries have much longer time preference than the only 2 black countries on the list (Angola and Nigeria), which are both near the bottom.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
    , @whorefinder
  22. Alden 说:
    @Corvinus

    Trump graduated from Wharton, one of the toughest schools in the country. Whatever he is, he is not stupid. But you are stupid because you believe the media that says he is stupid.

    • 回复: @Anon
  23. Alden 说:
    @Priss Factor

    So White men are intimidated by black men? Speak for yourself.

    You really need to get out more and get to know actual people instead of the porn in your computer. Is there a senior center in your neighborhood?

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  24. McWhorter strikes me as a guy who, like black sports writer Jason Whitlock, seem to agree that blacks on average do worse at various things and racism isn’t to blame for it. Both seem to understand that they are part of the Talented Tenth, and so also have a 贵族有义务 towards the lower-IQ members of their race.

    But they also saw what happened to Clarence Thomas for opposing the Gibsmedat mentality. And so they try to thread the needle: encouraging blacks to stop bitching about failing to make the grade and blaming racism while encouraging whites not to point it out or use it against them. It won’t work, but McWhorter/Whitlock will try, as they are civilized men.

    Whitlock makes this point subtly in many of his works, but one time he strikingly made it was with black QBs. Whitlock noted (like Limbaugh) that black QBs came roaring into the league with lots of hype and great physical skills, but did not apply themselves to learn QB systems, instead goofing off and relying on their speed/strength only.

    And time after time once their initial “wow” factor wore off they failed to live up to the hype. Michael Vick, DOnovan McNabb, the kid from the Carolina Panthers, etc. One NAACP member came out and criticized McNabb for playing the game too “white.”

    The hunt for the Great Black QB made Whitlock basically tell blacks that the only way blacks could become a greater force at QB was for teams to change the position to a platoon system where two-three black QBs would run options/wing-T -type offenses. But, as Whitlock pointed out, this would diminish the role of QB, since it would now be a replaceable running back and not a field general type. In clamoring for affirmative action black QB,s Whitlock implied, they would ruin the chance for big paydays and a truly great black QB. Instead, Whitlock told black QBs in his column to stick with learning the systems and mimicking great white QBs like Manning and Brady and make themselves into the Great Black QB.

    Anyway, I digress. We have a system of laws in this country that are premised on the idea notion that black failings are solely due to white racism and not due to innate racial differences. We also have a culture that reinforces that through after school special propaganda in movies and TV and song. These lawys and propaganda castigate whitey as the cause of all evil. We need overwhelming IQ proof to overthrow this caste system. McWhorter and Whitlock probably, deep down, wish Affirmative Action and hate whitey b.s didn’t exist, but thinks its a tolerable society. but the system is insufferable, and whites need to get rid of it, and noting IQ differences is a major piece of the artillery.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  25. I’m puzzled why articles like this are written.
    There is an IQ test, it seems that different groups of people on average score different on this test.
    所以呢 ?
    I suppose there are many more tests on which different groups score differently.
    If there was a test for surviving in the jungle I suppose Amazonian Indians and Arnhem Land Aboriginals would score very high.
    Again, so what ?
    Jews on average seem to score ten points more on IQ tests.
    Again, so what ?
    Are non jews discriminated by this discrepancy ?
    I read that a black woman wants compensation for her lower IQ.
    One must have a very low IQ to have thoughts like this, where is the end of compensations ?

  26. MEH 0910 说:

    这是几个 国家评论 online pieces that respond to the John McWhorter’s NR 片:

    Why I Write About Race and IQ 罗伯特·弗布鲁根 (Robert Verbruggen)

    A Reply to John McWhorter by Jonathan Anomaly & Brian Boutwell

    • 回复: @another fred
  27. @Alden

    So White men are intimidated by black men? Speak for yourself.

    你在开玩笑吧?

    I grew up in an integrated city and saw all kind of shi*.

    I understand what White Flight is all about.

    I know what Howard Stern means when he says even Liberal Jews finally decided on Jew Flew.

    Look at crime stats.

    Look at Colin Flaherty videos.

    Also, it’s getting worse than ever because Section 8 is sending blacks into all sorts of white communities where black kids win in high school sports and hump white ho’s. No wonder so many white guys in small towns are demoralized. Not only did they lose their jobs to globalism but they are losing their girls to Negroes. I’ve seen this in my travel through small town in Ohio, New York, Tennessee, Kentucky, etc.
    Colleges now farm white girls to hand over on platter to Negro athletes.

    And here is firsthand account of what Negroes to do schools. They whup white boys and hump white girls IN THE SCHOOL! And these white girls grew up without fathers or with cuck fathers or trash fathers, and their culture is Trash Hip Hop and slut skank culture:

    https://www.amren.com/features/2016/12/blacks-changed-school/

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    This is happening all around, but YOU don’t know or care because you hang around gentrified upscale posh areas with Nice Negroes like John McWhorter.

    You really need to get out more and get to know actual people instead of the porn in your computer. Is there a senior center in your neighborhood?

    This goes to show how out-of-date you are. There is no more ‘mainstream vs porn’ dichotomy.

    When I was young, it was still pre-VCR. If people sought porn, it was in downtown red light districts. And then, there was home video, and even kids might now see porn because some parents might have some. This is how I got to see my first porn at some kid’s house of Ron Jeremy sucking his own dic*.

    Still, you had to be an adult to rent or buy porn. Also, porn back then was mostly hairy Jewish guys humping Catholic girls. This was the case when I was first working in a video shop.

    And then, things began to change, esp with the internet. Suddenly, any savvy kid could access porn of all kinds.

    More importantly, the barrier between porn and mainstream culture crumbled. While there was sexy mainstream entertainment, there was a clear dividing line between porn and mainstream. Also, there were rules as to what could be shown in the home.

    Fast Forward to today, and Porniness is Mainstream Culture.
    madonna, lady gaga, miley cyrus, beyonce, rihanna(though Umbrella is pretty sensational), and etc all peddle porny music and videos. Also, the biggest celebrity is Kim Kardashian.

    And this is what they feature in cosmo magazine.

    https://laughingacademy.tumblr.com/post/141266086263/straightmaleanalerotic-illustrations-from-the

    This is TEEN Vogue.

    http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

    Shows like GIRLS by Dunham would have been pornography even in the 90s. Now, it’s on TV.
    And there are other shows like that.

    And TV shows are about guys and girls talking about graphic details about sex, and etc.

    And get a load of this video by Katy Perry.

    It features Katy as white woman turned into sex dough ho by a bunch of Negroes.

    And children’s shows are made by porn makers.

    https://www.change.org/p/nickelodeon-viacom-keep-sex-fetishism-out-of-children-s-television

    And this is TV commercial:

    It shows bigass Negro cuckifying a maggoty white boy.

    So, if you think there is still separate space between Porn World and Mainstream Culture, you are living in the past. That levee has been broken, and pornic waters have flooded into the mainstream.

    Today, young white children will grow up not only with access to hardcore porn but with a mainstream culture that is essentially pornified.

    Kids grow up to stuff like Family Guy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmhItxy2Fmg

    It’s not wholesome stuff like Brady Bunch or Beavis and Butthead.

    But sadly, you choose to live in denial…. that is unless you are Negro and trying to fool whitey that all is well and there’s nothing to worry about. If you are Gro, you don’t fool us.

    • 回复: @SAM HOUSTON
  28. This is a dumb article written by somebody not fit to polish McWhorter’s boots and I say that as a fully-paid believer in all things HBD.

    • 回复: @wow
    , @Priss Factor
    , @FX Enderby
  29. @RadicalCenter

    Where do you get your facts, or factoids from? Ashkenazi Jews were well established inbreedong communities before they moved to Poland and what became Russian territories so where’s your evidence of Slavic descent? Indeed where is the evidence of German rather than Celtic ancestry in Ashkenazim? The point you seek to make is in fact as misconceived as if you were to say the Tutsi aren’t really a tall people because lots of them have Hutu ancestry. You would be ignoring how long intrabreeding extended families have been breeding as an identifiable separate group.

    • 回复: @jilles dykstra
  30. @whorefinder

    As you note McWhorter is obviously a civilised man – who writes very well btw – and anyone who bothers to read his NR article should enjoy a sophisticated piece. Of particular interest is his pointing to the recent exclusive “orality” of black communities as a possibly still potent factor in black culture and blacks’ expression of intellect. Obviously illiterate Eastern European Jews came from a very different background, but the oral culture may help explain a lot of primitives around the world, maybe including Erdogan’s supporters in Turkey.

    • 回复: @whorefinder
  31. K 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    >>”The notions that blacks can govern themselves in a democratic system devised by whites is also be open to challenge. ”<<

    I spent three years in a completely black caribbean island country of st.kitts in the early 2000's. The island was impressively governed without the help of a single white. I never saw a single white in any administrative position. Maybe they were present i dont know, but certainly none among the top administration. Law and order was also perfect. Me and my friends (we are not black) could even walk through the down-tr0dden parts of the island without getting mugged or attacked…..even at late in the night. The economy was very good too……everybody had a car and a house and a decent education, with very few on welfare. And it was not one of those islands that depended completely on tourist income. Tourist income was only a small part of that country.

    • 同意: Logan
  32. The author would do a great service to avoid talking about Russia as it is quite obvious he knows nothing on the subject except repeating old clishes which are simply not true. If he wanted to compare black slaves lives in America to something far worse but happening with whites he could use Russian peasants especially before Alexander II reforms who lived life of slavery with families broken sold like cattle, constant hunger and recurring starvation’s over centuries. Holodomor for example is a lie created with one intent in heart, to break Russians and Ukranians apart.

    • 回复: @jilles dykstra
    , @FX Enderby
  33. McWhorter has always seemed fairly reasonable on any number of matters. And he looks much more like a white person than a black person.

    I agree that any subject should be allowed open inquiry, no matter how offensive or hurtful it might be.

    But he approaches this issue with a certain modicum of honesty that is very refreshing. Most black writers who have even touched this issue at all are so certain that there is no such thing as race that they do not for even a microsecond consider the possibility of cognitive differences between groups of people.

    That there has to be differences between geographically separated groups of people in a complex behavior such as intelligence seems necessary if evolution by natural selection is a valid scientific theory.

    Nature does not often support our predjudices. The greatest predjudice today is the egalitarian dogma that we are all equal.

    • 同意: Talha
    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  34. @Wizard of Oz

    Askenazi jews are descendants of the heathen Asiatic Khazars, who lived somewhere north of the Crimea, converted to judaism in the 8th or 9th century.
    They chose judaism in order not to offend neighbours, in the west lived christians, in the east Muslims.

    Shlomo Sand,“犹太人的发明”,伦敦,纽约,2009年,2010年(特拉维夫,2008年,希伯来语)

    The descendants of Asiatics drove the Palestinians, descendants of semitic jews, from Palestine.

    Arthur Koestler already wrote ‘The Thirteenth Tribe’ about de forefathers of the askenazi jews, but when he wrote the book the proof still was meagre.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  35. @Sergey Krieger

    Russian serfs were not sold like slaves, they belonged to the land.

    • 回复: @Sergey Krieger
    , @Logan
  36. @George Weinbaum

    He did not know Africa before Europeans ruined all advanced kingdoms.
    扬·范西纳(Jan Vansina),“稀树草原王国,中非国家直到欧洲被占领的历史”,伦敦,1966年

  37. ” In many parts of the American South there were at least cordial if not affectionate relations between whites and blacks.”

    There continued to be in the part of the South I lived in in the 1970s … we white folk even had the frank discussions with black folk in ways that Eric Holder could only pay lip service to three decades later, and no one came away bloodied or branded a racist. Gone are the days ….

  38. The National Review issue which dealt with the Bell Curve was December 5, 1994.

  39. @jilles dykstra

    They were sold. They could not leave and they could be sold or gambled away.

    • 回复: @Sergey Krieger
  40. @jilles dykstra

    Yeah, yeah, yeah – I’m sick of dealing with that old crap served up by nerds who read some misguided books and don’t even use their common sense enough to start questioning. As you could have learned from Greg Cochran’s occasional UR comments or his blog site Ashkenazim have about 48 to 60 per cent European DNA mostly from Jewish men marrying whoever was in northern Italy and the Rhineland before Germans got there. Only the Khazar royal family (and presumably some close to them) became Jewish. The commonsense question you didn’t ask is “how come the language of Ashkenazim all over Eastern and Central Europe was a German dialect?”.

  41. On modern taboos, the author could have mentioned the Gaysott Act (and similar pieces of legislation in the “free” West).

  42. Logan 说:

    “during the Revolutionary and Civil Wars, black slaves were offered their freedom if they would only rise up against their masters.”

    Not sure this is entirely correct.

    I am unfamiliar with Union efforts to encourage slaves to revolt in a Haiti-style pogrom, as opposed to attempts to get them to abandon the plantations and cease active support of the CSA war effort. In the final Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln stated, “And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all violence, unless in necessary self-defence; and I recommend to them that, in all cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages.” This was added from the Preliminary EP because of concerns that the original version encouraged slave revolt and violence.

    Given that several slave states were at this time in the Union and supporting its war effort, Lincoln had every reason to avoid anything that could be portrayed as encouraging slaves to “rise up against their masters.”

    In the Revolution, the British offered slaves freedom if they’d enlist in the British armed forces and fight for the King. But then the American Patriots did much the same, though I’m vague on whether they made enlistment and eventual freedom dependent on the master’s permission.

    In fact, the CSA eventually implemented much the same policy, though far too late in the war to have any effect.

    • 回复: @Logan
    , @anarchyst
  43. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Alden

    Trump graduated from upenn which has the Wharton school. But when people refer to Wharton they are referring to the graduate school. Trump is the only one that ever refers to upend undergraduate as Wharton. Not a 100 percent lie but pretty much a false exaggeration.

    • 回复: @Clark Westwood
  44. Logan 说:
    @Logan

    “a far cry from the 400,000 black slaves brought to North America along the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade in a span of over 400 years.”

    The first slave was brought to the English colonies of North America in 1619. The slave trade was outlawed in the USA in 1807.

    That’s 188 years, not 400.

    To be sure, the De Soto expedition of 1539 included black slaves, but that was an exploration, not settlement, and anyway it only gets us to 268 years. Plus, presumably this should be blamed on the successor states of Spain, not on USA, a successor state of the British colonies.

    Even if we date from Columbus, it only gets us to 315 years.

    The “400 years” is often touted, but darn if I can figure out where it comes from.

    • 回复: @Jake
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  45. @K

    I googled “St Kitts crime”. Among the several links containing warnings of rising crime was:

    “A gang war in 2008 meant that St Kitts became, statistically, the murder capital of the world when 23 people were killed out of its tiny population of just 46,000.”

    “According to police statistics released on Friday evening, crime in St Kitts and Nevis increased by 56.8% in 2016. The total number of reported crimes in 2016 was 1,643, compared to 1,048 in 2015, with all but two categories of crime showing increases.”

    http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headline-Crime-in-St-Kitts-Nevis-increased-by-56.8-percent-in-2016-33653.html

    I’m no expert, but it seems there is a difference of opinion. They are trying to do something about it though.

    Snip: “Prime Minister Harris said the increase is reflective of his Government’s resolve to do “whatever it takes to rid our beloved Federation of the scourge of crime which threatens the very foundation of our economy and the peaceful way of life to which our people are accustomed”.”

    http://www.winnfm.com/news/local/20102-2016-crime-stats-for-st-kitts-and-nevis-still-not-released

    Just as the Bahamians learned after electing the socialist Pindling back in the 70s, crime dissuades holiday travel.

    • 回复: @K
  46. Logan 说:
    @Svigor

    Svigor is approximately correct if we limit the discussion to USA, as we are in the discussion of black/white IQ differences. We don’t normally pitch into the discussion the average IQs of blacks in Africa.

    Your point also makes no sense. There is no logical way whereby one average or below average IQ group breeding with another average IQ group results in descendants with an IQ a standard deviation above either group of ancestors.

  47. Logan 说:
    @jilles dykstra

    Not really true. Moscow and Leningrad newspapers contained lots of ads for sale of slaves. They were also routinely driven off the land they were supposedly tied to and put to work in factories started by their owners.

  48. Quinn’s piece strikes me as an unjustifiedly mean-spirited reply to McWhorter. I can understand being pissed at NR (aren’t we all?), but there’s no reason to take it out on McWhorter.

    • 同意: Logan, utu
  49. MarkinLA 说:
    @Svigor

    Roughly 11 million slaves are estimated to have come to the New World via the transatlantic trade;

    Not buying this given the types of ships that existed during the slave trade days. No more than a couple of hundred on a trip. Most would have had to be born here from slave parents. Where di this number come from?

    • 回复: @another fred
    , @Numinous
  50. @Sergey Krieger

    Owner could take all their possessions and often they had to work 7 days a week from early morning to late evening. American blacks lives were paradise by comparison.

  51. wow 说:
    @Open-hearted liberal

    aaaand here comes the liberal with his/her powerful response….NOTHING!

    (照常)

  52. @MEH 0910

    Thank you for those links. The reply by Anomaly and Boutwell is excellent. I don’t go to NR much since the defenestration and would not likely have seen it otherwise.

    I have read other articles by Boutwell and he is sharp, but the tone of this one is different, I assume that is the influence of Anomaly, of whom I knew nothing before.

    Boutwell and Anomaly should be careful, they are making a difference in the dialogue and the personal attacks will follow.

  53. @MarkinLA

    You can Google “slave trade statistics.”

    Lots of data, you can decide what to believe, but the consensus is pretty much along that line. Some estimates are higher. Lots of records were kept, some inferences were drawn.

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
  54. David 说:
    @K

    Further to “another fred,” the Guardian in 2014 listed Basseterre as the city with the highest murder in the world based on 2011 statistics.

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/jun/24/10-world-cities-highest-murder-rates-homicides-in-pictures

    SO K is wrong about St Kitts being safe. What about well governed? If meeting out justice is any measure, no. From the St Kitts Observer Newspaper, 2016: 24 Homicides, 0 Murder Convictions.

    http://www.thestkittsnevisobserver.com/local-news/2016-homicides-24-murder-convictions-0/

  55. anarchyst 说:
    @Logan

    Lincoln’s “Emancipation Proclamation” did not apply to slaves in the north–only to slaves in “the states of rebellion”…an interesting fact that is quite often overlooked and misinterpreted.
    As to the “3/5ths” representation, the southern states wanted slaves to be counted as “full persons” for apportionment purposes. It was those in the north who insisted that slaves be counted as “3/5ths” of a whole person, diluting the political power of the south…another fact that is quite often misrepresented.

    • 回复: @Logan
  56. @Priss Factor

    You really have a fixation on black penises. Have you experienced them personally or just on porn sites?

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  57. Jake 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Haiti is a prime example of black revolution in which the mulattoes are slaughtered just like the whites. White Liberals celebrate that as a great thing.

  58. Jake 说:
    @Logan

    Black math, which came from WASP Elite math when it was petting its beloved Numinous Negro.

  59. @Anon

    It is possible to get a bachelor’s degree from Wharton:

    https://undergrad.wharton.upenn.edu/academics/bs-versus-ba/

    One of my co-workers has a Wharton BS in economics from the 1980s. (I’ve seen the degree in his office, and he’s not a bull-sh*tter.)

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  60. MarkinLA 说:
    @another fred

    I was basing that on the US slave population only and didn’t register the “new world” in my head. Your sources say that way more slaves were shipped to the Caribbean than the US. Still it seems too many given what a wooden sailing ship can reasonably hold such that the cargo is still alive at the end of the journey. I wonder if there is any insurance fraud going on in those counts?

    • 回复: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    , @Logan
  61. Corvinus 说:
    @Cranberries

    “The only data presented in the link directly contradicts your assertion. ”

    Depends on what is one’s definition of white.

    “Granted, there is high variance in white countries, with Russia scoring quite low.”

    没错。

    “But on average, the included white countries have much longer time preference than the only 2 black countries on the list (Angola and Nigeria), which are both near the bottom.”

    Because of cultural, not racial, differences, as the study stated.

    • 回复: @Cranberries
  62. Corvinus 说:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “The cucks have arrived.”

    It appears you enjoy prostituting yourself by constantly exposing that term to people who pay no attention to it. Welcome to intellectual whoredom.

    • 回复: @Beefcake the Mighty
  63. @Corvinus

    You obviously respond to the term, as I’m not the only one who applies it to you and receives faux nonchalance.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  64. @Wizard of Oz

    illiterate Eastern European Jews

    Bah? One thing consistent across Jewish culture has been that, for religious reasons, all male children are taught to read. This is, in fact, often a cover Jews use for why Ashkenazi Jews have higher-than-average IQs: “It’s because we learned to read, which biases the tests!” (never mind that non-Askenazi Jews also learned to read and didn’t have the higher IQs).

    Jews have verbosity and loquaciousness because they have higher rates of sociopathy, and, therefore, have needed to develop verbal doubletalk to cover for what are otherwise reprehensible actions. High verbal skill is a trait among sociopaths.

    This goes for American blacks as well: the nonsensical verbiage from them is an attempt to sociopathically disguise what they did. Almost every black defendant in court wants to take the stand and/or speak to the judge, convinced that he can “hustle” everyone into letting him go. It always ends up backfiring, however, since black IQ is so low what might work in a hustle of a black person comes across laughable and cheap to anyone with an IQ at 100 or above.

  65. @Cranberries

    Covy’s a paid Soros troll and speaks in the nonsense doubletalk 方言 of his snowflake people. Problem for him is, he’s a very low IQ member of his tribe and so his tripe comes out very badly and makes him look very foolish.

  66. K 说:
    @another fred

    @ David too,

    Notice i said that i spent ‘three years’ in the early 2000’s. Starting from late 2001, to 2003 and then from 2004 to late 2005. I left after 2005. In late 2004 ‘drugs’ in significant amounts started coming into the island. I should have added this to my earlier post about st.kitts, but i thought drugs wouldnt have made any difference. But it seems like they did.

    Until 2005 (when i permanently left the island) it was peaceful.

  67. @Anonymous White Male

    Like it or not, the Negro Dong has become a viral meme or pop cultural trope in the West.

    These are white sorority girls.

    http://gawker.com/sorority-girl-celebrates-21st-birthday-with-racist-thre-1670470468

    I don’t know them, and I didn’t tell them to bake the cake. But they came up such stuff because they grew up talking graphically about sex and the negro.

    Here are white girls on the beach.

    In the past, it was considered uncouth for girls to talk like this. Today, girls grow up watching porny Miley Cyrus and Beyonce videos. Already, Christina Aguilera is old hat.

    And Negro dong is one of those dominant cultural tropes. YOU can pretend that I’m just making it up. YOU are not paying attention to culture and society.

    This is Sex and City episode.

    This isn’t just some fetish porn but prime time TV show seen by 100s of millions of young girls worldwide. It’s gotten so that even Japanese women now seek out black men in Jamaica and Africa and have kids with them as ‘new Japanese’.

    Also, the media promote this. Why? Negro is holy, so worshiping Negro prowess is next to godliness. Also, the globalist elites want to destroy white pride and power. So, by demoting white male pride by elevating black manhood, white women are jungle-feverized.

    Along with holy homomania, TV advertising promotes jungle fever in US and EU.

    As Joe Louis said, ‘you can run, but you can’t hide’.

    If you want to do something about the demise of white race, you need to honestly diagnose the disease and stop pretending it’s all just made up.

  68. McWhorter 在他的文章开始时询问我们通过讨论黑人在智力上的劣势来获得什么。

    What do we have to gain by discussing the historical accuracy of the narrative that makes up what is billed today as “the Holocaust?”

    What, indeed, or lose, in the present environment?

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
  69. The claim that whites are in a similar inferior position towards Jews as blacks are to whites is stupid. Gentile Whites didn’t need Jews to settle and develop Europe, America or anywhere else, and certainly not to send men to the moon or build the modern world. The absence of Jewish accomplishments would have been a very minor set-back. It’s White Gentles who created modernity.

    If we really start talking race and ethnic issues, we’ll likely start talking who built what and who is really the aggressive destroyers and usurpers. Black and White is just the dreaded tip of the iceberg.

    • 回复: @Jake
  70. K 说:

    And everything i said about my experiences in st.kitts is absolutely true. I never for a single moment felt ‘unsafe’ even at any time of the night even when i was alone walking in a poor alleyway.

    Neither did any of my friends encounter anything bad. The locals were the sweetest best people i came across. The most they did was to call us as talib (we are south-asian) as it was just after 9/11 i went there but it was in jest and thats it. The only bad experience i had was weirdly from a ‘white person’ not a black person. He was either portugese or spanish i am not sure. He owned a bar in that place. But blacks never threatened us in anyway

    Seems like the arrival of illicit drugs changed everything.

    • 回复: @Stripes Duncan
    , @dcite
  71. @MarkinLA

    记住:

    1. The North American Slave Trade (ca.1619-1807) is for the US colonies/early America only, which is where the 400k number comes from

    2. In the rest of the Western Hemisphere, ca. prior to 1550-1889, lasted for a much longer time frame. For the Caribbean AND South American slave trade, the slaves were worked to death, and because of the living conditions, climate, etc. was much more strenuous and demanding on the labor force. Thus there were continuous ships coming in with new labor supplies (slaves) every single week, if not day, for like a near 200-300 yr time span.

    3. Compared to crossing the Sahara, transporting across the Atlantic via galley ships was far easier travel (once they figured out to supply fruits and veggies for the trip to ward off scurvy). That’s one reason Columbus set sail across the Atlantic: He wanted to find an easier way to the Orient since the Turks barred the way over land (Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Steppes of Asia, etc). As the article states, more slaves died en route to the Middle East thru the treacherous crossing of the Sahara. Compared to that route, the Atlantic was a breeze.

    But yeah, if slaves are constantly being imported to the New World for nearly 300 yrs, then the ca.11 million number makes sense, especially when you take into account that the South American/Caribbean labor supply kept dying off and constantly needed to be replaced.

    • 回复: @Stan d Mute
  72. @Logan

    Brazil didn’t abolish slavery til 1889. Perhaps other South American nations as well, so this (from ca.1540-1889) that gets to 350yrs.

    And, due to more and more ships constantly going to Caribbean and South America all the time because of slaves dying off at a much higher rate compared to North American slaves. Thus the labor supply in South America and Caribbean needed to be constantly replaced.

  73. “High verbal skill is a trait among sociopaths.”

    AND it’s also a trait/marker of high IQs. Thus, the average Askenazi IQ is 110-115, the highest among white groups.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  74. @Corvinus

    https://psmag.com/social-justice/and-the-prize-for-promiscuity-goes-to-generation-x

    Article does not show the break down across racial lines. Therefore, we have to assume that blacks are indeed counted in among Gen. X stats (as there are blacks born during the 1965-1980 era, commonly known as Generation X).

    You mad at whites or something, brah?

  75. @Priss Factor

    You forgot Nikki Minaj and her influence on young post-millennial girls.

    Also keep in mind that originally the cultural acceptance of race mixing in US was largely due to the gay community’s fetish for Jungle Fever (e.g. Milo Yiannopolous comes to mind). Many gays helped write songs and sitcoms. Gays are considered, like blacks, a protected species and do their best to undermine the power structure.

    It’s all related.

    Possible explanation: Women tend to have lower IQs than men, therefore an average WASP woman’s IQ (ca. high 90s to low 100s) will tend to intersect with a higher than average black male’s IQ. In other words, these white women are going for the “best and brightest” that the brothas tend to have within their communities.

    • 回复: @Logan
  76. @Truth

    Do you have any idea how many times you’ve used this line? I would say, honestly, about 14; and that’s just on the threads I have read.

    Not quite. I sometimes go for variety and mention Gary Coleman instead.

  77. @Open-hearted liberal

    This is a dumb article written by somebody not fit to polish McWhorter’s boots and I say that as a fully-paid believer in all things HBD.

    You seem fit to shine McWhorter’s behind.

  78. @Priss Factor

    But here’s a serious question: While they may be bigger outwardly, the fact remains that in the realm of IQ, providing for families, etc. blacks greatly lag behind whites in these areas. So then, after being jungle fevered, and realizing that the guy can’t man up and provide for her in a responsible way, what then? Because according to stats, blacks don’t stick around to take care of their offspring in significant numbers, and hooking up with white women doesn’t cure them from that social problem. That’s probably one reason you see so many white women with mulatto kids in tow, but oftentimes alone without a father figure. Where’s the guy? So they figure out after the fact that while “Sex in the City” glamorized Jungle Fever, in reality it doesn’t add up to a responsible provider for a family.

    What’s the solution for the new generation who might be tempted to go Jungle without weighing the consequences?

    Easy to curse the darkness. Much harder to light the candle and find our way to the answer.

  79. @K

    I spent three years in a completely black caribbean island country of st.kitts in the early 2000’s. The island was impressively governed without the help of a single white. I never saw a single white in any administrative position.

    Then you woke up.

    Btw, if blacks are so capable, all blacks need to emulate these Kangri La Negroes.

    • 回复: @K
  80. @lavoisier

    Most black writers who have even touched this issue at all are so certain that there is no such thing as race that they do not for even a microsecond consider the possibility of cognitive differences between groups of people.

    No, all blacks believe in race and believe themselves to be more colorful, masterful, and badass.
    Among themselves, they put down other races. Even if blacks may not into details of HBD, the whole black attitude is ‘we wuz kangs’.

    Blacks always talk of racial differences when it makes them look good or superior.
    They revile Race only when data shows blacks to be lacking in some department.

    • 回复: @Sean
  81. @Priss Factor

    I’m not claiming you’re making it up. I’m just pointing out your fixation on black wee wees. Are you aware of it? Everytime there is a thread on black lack of intelligence, you promote what you admitted is a meme. And then you list a few anecdotal sites primarily by and for women. You want to talk about black willies? Why don’t you talk about the herd mentality of women and the misery loves company recruiting that accompanies females that do something they regret? You also add the myth that blacks are more muscular and destroy white pride by kicking white butt. And yet Whites are always the strongest weight lifters. And apparently you viewing blacks in an urban environment is your evidence that blacks kick White butt. Like in MMA? Maybe you meant to say they have a larger percentage of muscle mass? This is a ratio concerning body fat. Whites have more body fat, hence they are more buoyant. You know about how “Black Men Can’t Swim”? You also shill that blacks have bigger voices and this makes Whites respect blacks as ‘masterful’. Oh, you mean that blacks are louder and noisier than Whites? Are you White? Do you respect blacks as “masterful”?

  82. Talha 说:

    I’m reminded specifically of the Muslim college professor in Nablus who dared suggest that…He was thrown out of a window by his students for his efforts).

    OK – so the link provided is to a Wikipedia article which points out that:
    1) The guys was a Druze – NOT a Muslim
    2) His widow repeatedly has denied the incident ever occurred

    WTF??!!

    If it’s “implacably oppressive” slavery you want, then look no further than black-on-black slavery in Africa or, better yet, Muslim-on-black slavery.

    OK – so the guy cites some dude who is an apostate with a self-published book for his numbers on African slaves, then pulls out a 400,000 number for the Trans-Atlantic slave trade out of his backside with absolutely no reference.

    Here is what necrometrics states – citing multiple different academic sources and their numbers (none of whom cite anything remotely as low as 400,000 – but I’m sure homeboy knows the super-secret true numbers because of awesome sauce):
    -Mid-East/Arab slave trade – 18.5 million over 12 centuries
    -Atlantic slave trade – 16 million over 4 centuries
    http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm#20worst

    Then he has the gall to cite Ronald Segal – a man who is exceptional in his scholarship on the subject and contradict him in the same article on two whole subjects:
    1) That plantation slavery was better than slavery in the Muslim world:
    “The relationship between slave and master in Islam is a very different relationship from that between the American plantation laborer and owner. It was a much more personalized relationship and relatively benevolent. Everything here is relative — being a slave is being a slave and it shouldn’t be romanticized….Why could Islamic slaves assimilate into the surrounding society so more easily than American blacks could? Here we get to a further dimension of the difference between the two trades. Slavery in the West, because it was so cruel and had become so disreputable, required some kind of excuse or extenuation — the idea of biological discrimination. Essentially, the concept of race developed and was popularized.”
    http://www.salon.com/2001/04/06/segal/

    “The nature of the Atlantic trade and therefore the survival of racism in the West has been one of segregation. There wasn’t this separation in Islam. Whites didn’t push blacks off the pavement. They didn’t forbid restaurants to serve them. I don’t think that there’s any disputing that slavery was a more benevolent institution in Islam than it was in the West.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml

    2) Because Islam explicitly prohibits castration, but many Muslim elites demanded them, the castration was mostly done by non-Muslims outside of Muslm territory:
    “穆斯林法律禁止割礼,先知的权威赋予了禁止阉割的具体禁令:‘谁砍了奴隶的鼻子,谁的鼻子就会被砍掉; 谁阉割了奴隶,我们也应该阉割他。”……法律的文字,如果不是精神,长期以来一直遵守,将阉割行为留给伊斯兰领土范围以外的人,然后进口产品。 在中世纪,布拉格和凡尔登成为供应欧洲太监的阉割中心; Kharazon,靠近里海,是中亚供应的中心。 在伊斯兰领土上进行了进一步的规避,因为这些行动是由非穆斯林进行的。 据报道,在 XNUMX 世纪的伊斯兰西班牙,犹太商人进行了这项操作。 在 XNUMX 世纪,基督教僧侣在他们位于上埃及小镇阿布蒂格附近的 Deir al-Jandala 修道院经营着一个阉割中心。”
    Islam’s Black Slaves: The Other Black Diaspora by Ronald Segal

    Again – WTF??!!

    What were sub-Sarahan blacks reading before that?

    The Qur’an, mathematics, and astronomy:
    http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/timbuktu-manuscripts-mali

    “Timbuktu was a center of Islamic scholarship under several African empires, home to a 25,000-student university and other madrasahs that served as wellsprings for the spread of Islam throughout Africa from the 13th to 16th centuries. Sacred Muslim texts, in bound editions, were carried great distances to Timbuktu for the use of eminent scholars from Cairo, Baghdad, Persia, and elsewhere who were in residence at the city. The great teachings of Islam, from astronomy and mathematics to medicine and law, were collected and produced here in several hundred thousand manuscripts. Many of them remain, though in precarious condition, to form a priceless written record of African history.”
    http://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/world-heritage/timbuktu/

    Timbuktu and Sene-Gambia are Sub-Saharan Africa – again WTF??!!

    This kind of shoddy research calls into question the authors other claims.

    Yeah homeboy – Blacks should be getting in line to kiss your backside for how awesomeness it was to be dragged off in chains on a slave ship. I mean, I can’t stand it when Blacks blame all their ills on the ‘Devil White-man’ – but this Black-man-was-lucky-to-get-enslaved-by-White-man is utter nonsense.

    和平:

    • 回复: @attilathehen
  83. @dearieme

    这已经发生了。 https://nypost.com/2017/06/17/sperminator-has-sired-dozens-of-kids-and-there-could-be-more-coming/

    John McWhorter is married to (((Martha Sparks))). Jews have high intermarriage rates with black/Asians.

    The race conversation needs to be shifted.

  84. @Talha

    Hye Talha. You are a Pakistani. The average IQ in Pakistan is 84. You’re an Asian. You have nothing to do with the West.

    • 回复: @Talha
    , @Logan
  85. Talha 说:
    @attilathehen

    Hi Da Hen,

    Thanks for the reminder. Waiting for my federal notice that my citizenship has been revoked and that I have to leave. Write your Congressman and Senator. They write the laws, I don’t remember? Tell them we have to ship all non-Whites (whatever that eventually gets worked out to) back to countries of origin. Please be specific as to why – they will want a reason. Mention IQ – a lot. Like, a lot.

    和平:

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @attilathehen
  86. Anonymous [AKA "Franco"] 说:

    “His third reason is that some believe that honesty about IQ will help us celebrate racial differences. That is, presumably, some races are really smart, and others are good at other things, like digging ditches or dribbling basketballs or what have you. Like that would go over well.”

    I don’t understand the big deal over this, the US military does this all the time with its ASVAB test. The score you get correlates to what jobs your qualified to preform.

    • 回复: @MarkinLA
  87. Sean 说:
    @Priss Factor

    http://www.molecularecologist.com/2017/07/nprs-muddled-take-on-scientific-racism-and-direct-to-consumer-genetics/ t
    Scientists will just tell you race is an example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunction_fallacy

    You see “We abstract what we consider the ‘essence of an entity, and then arrange our judgments by their degree of similarity to this assumed type.”

    The old philosophical question about the priority of existence or essence.

  88. @Corvinus

    No. Your assertion is:

    Actually, whites have a much shorter future-time orientation on average.

    Your reference contradicts this regardless of one’s definition of white, unless your definition of “white” is the result of some bizarre gerrymandering that excludes the bulk of Europe.

    The rest of your response is irrelevant. Your assertion that whites have a shorter future-time orientation (on average) than blacks has nothing to do with variance or nature/nurture, and it is contradicted by your own reference. You appear to be fabricating assertions, running a quick google search for “citations”, and posting the first apparently relevant result as evidence without actually reading it. Then changing the subject when it’s pointed out.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  89. Jake 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    This sentence is especially important: ” It’s White Gentles who created modernity.”

    That is a more broad way of making the same point I make when I stress that all of this mess was created by WASPs, not by Jews. “Modernity” was created by the war to replace Christendom, and Modernity is the very culturally suicidal state in which we find ourselves. It is Modernity that, all grown up, hates itself (I say: hates itself with guilt for having given Christendom the middle finger). It is Modernity that wishes to replace the people who created it.

    If you think you can save Modernity, you are pissing in the wind. Modernity is culturally suicidal. Western Man will save himself and the West only by returning to Christendom.

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
  90. MarkinLA 说:
    @Jett Rucker

    It depends on who is “we”. I don’t have anything to gain. I wasn’t part of it and will not be part of another one so I also don’t want to hear about it anymore.

  91. Ron Unz 说:
    @Talha

    Hi Da Hen,

    Thanks for the reminder. Waiting for my federal notice that my citizenship has been revoked and that I have to leave. Write your Congressman and Senator. They write the laws, I don’t remember? Tell them we have to ship all non-Whites (whatever that eventually gets worked out to) back to countries of origin. Please be specific as to why – they will want a reason. Mention IQ – a lot. Like, a lot.

    Well, given the nature of the Internet, I can’t really be sure whether Talha is actually a devout Pakistani-American Muslim married to a American convert of mostly Swedish family background.

    But I can say he’s one of our most wittiest commenters…

    • 回复: @Talha
  92. You should have stuck to all grievances white motif, for there wasn’t any need to cite the Indian or Chinese miseries, whose presence in America you seem to abhor and secondly, if the snarky wit is good for the goose than it ought to be good for the gender… if Africa is the home continent of Blacks then Europe is the home continent of ______. Your gist is on the mark regarding the inability of blacks to match whites in the IQ game but what is it that you want to achieve by bringing up their shortcomings? Do you propose that 40,000,000 souls just pack up and vanish because you score higher than them? McWborter may be wrong to bring up the bogey of violence but are you certain that you want risk it? Talk is cheap!

    • 回复: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
  93. MarkinLA 说:
    @Anonymous

    Well after going all in on the stupidity from economists that we can let the manufacturing jobs go overseas because we will have the knowledge jobs, we would have to face the reality that a whole segment of society will never be gainfully employed. So it is better to continue to believe that everybody in the US is suited to those knowledge jobs.

  94. Talha 说:
    @Ron Unz

    But I can say he’s one of our most wittiest commenters…

    Nah – can’t be Mr. Unz – I only have an average 84 IQ remember? And probably lying about the wife – you can’t trust us and our taqiyyah – she’s probably my low-IQ cousin from Rawalpindi.

    Peace – again much respect for the awesome site and constant enhancements – from one Web IT guy to another!

    • 回复: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
  95. Logan 说:
    @anarchyst

    Sorry, but you are yourself misrepresenting both situations.

    Sure, Lincoln’s Proclamation applied only the areas in rebellion. He had no authority to emancipate slaves except as a military action taken to suppress rebellion. He did, however, work consistently to emancipate slaves in Union states by state action. By his death, the only slaves remaining anywhere in the country were a couple hundred in DE and around 50,000 in KY.

    Re: the 3/5 bit. At the time of the Convention, it was widely assumed that states would be assessed by Congress as a tax, with it left up to the states how to raise those taxes. The contributions would be assessed based on population.

    Northern states wanted taxes assessed with slaves counted at full value, and with representation allocated with slaves not counted at all.

    Southern states wanted the opposite: slaves counted fully for representation and not at all for taxation.

    The compromise was at 3/5 for both. But it had nothing at all to do with whether slaves were considered people. Even southern legal systems never pretended otherwise. Slaves were always referred to as persons. Crimes committed against them could be prosecuted. At least two white men were hanged for murder of slaves.

    • 回复: @anarchyst
  96. @jilles dykstra

    You forgot the subtitle “We WUZ Kangs”

  97. Logan 说:
    @MarkinLA

    一些有趣的事实:

    Less than 5% of slaves shipped across the Atlantic came to what is now America. The vast majority went to Brazil and the Caribbean.

    The death rate among slaves in transit has been wildly exaggerated. It averaged around 7% for the entire period of the slave trade. Much higher in earlier years. The death rate was actually quite a bit higher among crews of slave ships. The total death rate for the slave trade, including capture, marching to the coast, imprisonment in the barracoons, voyage and “seasoning” in the New World, was much, much higher, probably over 50% altogether.

    We have, BTW, remarkably good statistics on the slave trade. The 12M number isn’t really that high given over 300 years to spread it out. Comes to about 40,000/year.

    • 回复: @Truth
  98. Logan 说:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Women do not have either lower mean or median IQs. Both are essentially identical to males.

    However, men are more variable, meaning there are fewer “average” men and more high-IQ and low-IQ men than women.

    • 回复: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  99. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It seems like Japanese women are into homeboys too… the samurai talk long with short katana!

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  100. @Anonymous White Male

    Please don’t expect a reply from Prissy Boy as you are exhorting him to man up and quit bitching about black ding dong.

  101. @Talha

    Mr. Unz? Why don’t you just call him Chacha Unz the way you are groveling on the virtual floor? The man gave you a complimen so enjoy it without being verbose, lest, he really starts to suspect you are from some uncivilized, lawless place called Rawalpindi, where fellow traveller Osama bin Laden was hiding from the long arm of Uncle Sam…

  102. LauraMR 说:

    Similar stats can be produced about gender IQ differences yet it is feminism rather than gender IQ what rots whatever it touches. Take that out (feminism) and gender IQ differences matter nothing in real life. Racial obsessions speak more of closet “jungle fever” than anything else.

  103. Talha 说:

    Chacha Unz

    LOL! good one!

    Though, in all honesty, it’s not the first time I’ve called him “Mr. Unz” – it’s not “grovelling”, it’s called respect for one’s host. In fact, I address all the writers as; Mr. Ghiraldi, Mr. Karlin (even though he’s probably younger than me), Mr. Dinh.

    We’re all eating at the banquet he’s going through the trouble of throwing – a modicum of respect to the hand that feeds one is baseline civilized behavior expected even from canines. Even disagreeing with the host should be done politely.

    fellow traveller Osama bin Laden

    You mean Chachoo Bin Laden?

    和平:

    • 回复: @Avery
  104. @Talha

    Hi Talha. It’s a coming. The Donald is doing very well on deporting people. But you can still send greetings to us from Pakistan.

  105. @Priss Factor

    “No, the real threat to whites is muscular, vocal, and genital.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love how left-wingers are o.k. with stereotypes if it (supposedly) compliments colored people. Of course if blacks are so superior why can’t they throw off the so-called oppression? How did they get conquered, colonized and oppressed in the first place?

    “Blacks are more muscular and destroy white pride by kicking white butt.”

    So I guess that explains why progressives support gun control then, huh?

  106. @Pachyderm Pachyderma

    我就是这么说的

    The main threat is not Scud missiles but Pud missiles.

    Look at the video below. The West(and maybe the imitative East) will die because stronger black guys will beat up white buys(who will become wussy-cucked) and then have sex with white girls into rap and jungle fever.
    White guys will lose threefold. They will lose manhood to blacks and then their women to blacks and then their children as well because increasing numbers of white girls will use their wombs to create black kids for black guys. Lose manhood, then lose the women, and then lose the children you could have had with the women.
    It’s no wonder so many white guys are turning to suicide. Losing jobs to globalism is one thing. But to lose manhood and women to Negroes?

    The black thugs in the video… I’ll bet they all humped some white girl and got her pregnant with a mulatto.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-8YckG_PU4

  107. @Priss Factor

    “Are you kidding me? I grew up in an integrated city and saw all kind of shi*. I understand what White Flight is all about.”

    O.K. this proves that you’re either stupid or lying. What Whites are intimidated by are civil rights laws and their enforcement by left-wing urban political regimes that will subject you to exemplary sentencing if you dare defend yourself. If not for this and the gun grabbing there wouldn’t be any White flight. Just dead negroes.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  108. Avery 说:
    @Talha

    {… it’s called respect for one’s host. }

    同意。

    I have called him both ‘Ron’ and ‘Mr. Unz’, depending on the circumstance: what’s the big deal.

    President Trump called girly-boy Macron “Mr. President”: was Trump, quote, ‘groveling’?. Of course not: Macron was hosting Trump in France.
    When you are visiting someone in their place, the least you can do is show proper respect.

  109. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Pop Culture mentality is about the Moment and Instant Pleasure.

    Tomorrow doesn’t exist.

    Pop Culture infantilizes and animalizes.

    Also, there is the State as sugar daddy or nanny.

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
  110. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Ever notice that people with low verbal skill can have high verbal dexterity, and people with high verbal skill can have low verbal dexterity?

    Some people have a gift for gab. Much of what they may not make much logical sense, but it’s lively and engaging.

  111. RobRich 说: • 您的网站
    @Priss Factor

    “We keep hearing that the ‘left’ won the culture war, but no classic leftist would consider ‘gay marriage’ and ’50 gender’ degeneracy as anything leftist…In the 90s, Democrats went ‘new democrat’ and adopted much of Reagan-Thatcherism.”

    好点。

    The Libertarians always win the culture war since the Renaissance because they’re the referees and want a clean fight between conservatives and progressives and access to all cultures. No below-the-belt: Rights and voluntary options, boys.

    The far-Left is trying to take credit for Libertarian clean-up wins: spread of democracy, civil rights, LGBT, anti–fracking, the web, Greening, etc.

    The far-Left always tries to make a new libertarian freedom mandatory. Voluntary socialism works in small communities? Call that unscientific and government-imposed socialism on everyone! Corporations can do a great job? Make them mandatory monopolies! LGBT folks should be left alone? Make non-LGBT outlawed! Women and minorities should have rights too? Down with Euro men!

  112. FX Enderby 说:
    @Svigor

    Svig, you wrote “the 400,000 who didn’t go to North America”. Maybe it was a typo, but out of the 11 million, 400,000 went to North America. The other 10 million or so went to the Caribbean and Central and South America.

  113. FX Enderby 说:
    @Forbes

    Well, 2019 is just around the corner. It really is time to end the North American slave trade. 400 years is enough already!

  114. FX Enderby 说:
    @Open-hearted liberal

    This article hurts my feelings and the writer is a big bad poopyhead! And I quite like McWhorter, too, who is a black guy, by the way. I like blacks because I am a good person and not a mean rotten poopyhead so shut up or I will stick my fingers in my ears.

    • 回复: @Truth
  115. FX Enderby 说:
    @Sergey Krieger

    Sure! No gulags, no hunger, no terror. The USSR was indeed a worker’s paradise and Stalin was a teddy bear.

    Seriously, in Khrushchev’s autobiography he wrote about having to extract grain from near-starving Ukrainian farmers under Stalin’s orders to fulfill arbitrary agricultural quotas (this was in the 1940’s and 50’s – when things were improving after WWII).

    Communism was a system of lies with perverse incentives that maximised human suffering.

    • 回复: @Sergey Krieger
  116. Corvinus 说:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “You obviously respond to the term, as I’m not the only one who applies it to you and receives faux nonchalance.”

    I respond to mock those who believe they are engaging in effective rhetoric when employing the term. Go back to the red light district. There you may find someone who shares in your fetish for meaningless memes. You may have to pay two bits, but it will be well worth your effort.

    • 回复: @Beefcake the Mighty
  117. Truth 说:
    @Logan

    The death rate among slaves in transit has been wildly exaggerated. It averaged around 7% for the entire period of the slave trade.

    你在那里?

    • 回复: @Logan
  118. Truth 说:
    @FX Enderby

    How are you enjoying France, Mr. President?

    • 哈哈: Talha
  119. @SAM HOUSTON

    What Whites are intimidated by are civil rights laws and their enforcement by left-wing urban political regimes that will subject you to exemplary sentencing if you dare defend yourself. If not for this and the gun grabbing there wouldn’t be any White flight.

    Sam the Sham, you just proved my point.

    You said whites need to defend themselves with guns. With GUNS. Why with bullets? Because blacks are more muscled and more aggressive.

    If that weren’t so, whites could just fight with fists and remain secure and safe. But even though there are tough whites and not-so-tough blacks, the fact is an average matchup between Negro and White guy is gonna be like Ali vs Quarry. I’ve seen it too many times.

    Whenever there was fight in the schoolyard, the kids would yell, ‘a fight, a fight, a ni**er and a white’ and usually, it was totally one-sided. White kids feared to hear ‘after school!’ by a Negro that meant ‘after school, I’s gonna kick your white ass.’
    Was it always like this? No. Sure, there were friends and nice negroes too. There was a game that white kids and black kids used to play together in 4th grade called ‘suck my dic*’. Kids would compete to see who could assemble the wooden puzzle faster, and the loser would have to ‘suck’ the winner’s thing. Of course, it wasn’t done literally, but the loser had to have his face pressed against the groin of the winner. But even in this friendly game, blacks had an advantage. If a black kid won, he could make sure that the white kid ‘sucked’ his dic*. But if the white kid won, the black kid would just laugh and welsh on the bet, and the weaker white kid couldn’t do anything about it. One time, the winning white kid had to beg the loser black kid to do it, but the black kid just cackled and cheated by just rubbing his nappy head on the white kid’s groin instead of going full-frontal with the face.
    So, the fact is blacks had a decisive advantage over whites. Anyway, now you know why it’s usually black guys who are buggering white guys in prison.

    Your point about GUNS implies that whites need guns and license to use it liberally to be safe against blacks.
    But this is unworkable in the long run. What are you gonna do? Pull out a gun every time you see a black guy acting funny?
    Also, what about schools? Kids can’t have guns, so white kids will be pushed around by black kids.

    And even in nice neighborhoods with nice negroes integrated with whites, whites will still be disadvantaged. The nice negro will still do better in sports and he will be humping all the white ho’s in school, and white boys will get second servings if that. Look at Colin Kaperinick the Negro. He was raised by a white family in a nice community. So, what did he? He excelled in sports and porked all the white girls. So, even with nice negroes, it just leads to cuckery on the part of whites.
    White grandparents raised Obama and he went to nice white schools. So, what did he? According to the bio, he was humping white girls all over the place. If a bisexual closet-homo like Obama acts like that, imagine what the hulking nice negroes are doing.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @OilcanFloyd
    , @Truth
    , @anonymous
  120. K 说:
    @Priss Factor

    ”Then you woke up”

    Exactly. I woke up to the fact they can govern themselves like first world standards.

  121. “Sam the Sham, you just proved my point.”

    Actually Sissy Prissy no I didn’t. You proved mine. By basically admitting that the real reason Whites have taken flight is because they’re not allowed to defend themselves. So what if Blacks are “more muscled” why are Whites supposed to just accept that disadvantage?

    “Your point about GUNS implies that whites need guns and license to use it liberally to be safe against blacks.”

    It doesn’t imply it at all. It states it outright. Again Whites are capable of overcoming any disadvantage if they are allowed to. Why does the game ONLY have to be played to the advantage of blacks? Answer: “civil rights” laws. Take away the artificial support of the leftist occupation government and all these perceived (by you) advantages disappear.

    “But this is unworkable in the long run. What are you gonna do? Pull out a gun every time you see a black guy acting funny?”

    Yes. It’s not unworkable at all.

    “Also, what about schools? Kids can’t have guns, so white kids will be pushed around by black kids. ”

    You’re going on the assumption that we’ll waste our time even educating the black kids. Why bother? The only reason the black kids can “qualify” for these schools is by affirmative action or dumbing down the curriculum.

    “And even in nice neighborhoods with nice negroes ”

    What nice negroes? And why should we allow them in our neighborhoods? Again all of this is because of “civil rights” laws. Without them blacks would be unable to compete. Only because of affirmative action and “fair housing” laws can any of these negroes stay in school, keep their jobs or afford their housing. It’s certainly not because of good grades and superior work performance. They’d all be living in the slums doing push-ups and bragging about their muscles. A perfect example of that is the 2008 “housing crisis” which was created by a law that forced banks to loan money to unqualified colored people. And what happened? They defaulted. BIG TIME! Brute force loses to higher intelligence every time. Unless the people with higher intelligence are restrained by artificial means. Hell what would black do without the welfare that Whites pay for? YOU mentioned section 8 housing. I also notice that the two negroes you mention by name are half White and were raised by Whites. What’s the matter no blacks could get the job done? Thanks for proving my point.

  122. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Average IQ in Israel, according to my quick research, is 95. When we take into account that 20% of the population are 83-84 IQ Arabs, the Jewish IQ (75% of the population) seems to be only 98 (roughly speaking – I’ve ignored the 5% who are neither).

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
  123. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Clark Westwood

    Yes, It’s possible. And Trump got an undergraduate degree from there (after transferring from Fordham).

    But when people refer to Wharton usually, if not always, you’re talking about the grad school -the much harder of the two to get into and to graduate from.

  124. utu 说:
    @Priss Factor

    There was a game that white kids and black kids used to play together in 4th grade called ‘suck my dic*’. Kids would compete to see who could assemble the wooden puzzle faster, and the loser would have to ‘suck’ the winner’s thing.

    4th grade? When was it and where?

    But if what you say is remotely true we can see, Priss, why you have been damaged for life and can’t stop obsessing with black male genitalia.

    • 同意: Talha
  125. @Jake

    I’m pretty ambivalent about religion. However, if Christianity is your issue, the Church left Whites and Christianity, not the other way around. Why should I attend a church that puts everyone and everything above its own flock? If the major denominations don’t give outright support for aggressive war in the ME, they don’t do much in opposition. The churches in my community are obsessed with sending people to Africa, Haiti, Central America, third-world areas of Asia, doing one-way “interfaith dialogues,” bringing in an unlimited stream of immigrants to fill the pews, and helping minorities in other communities, while looking down on the unfortunate in their own community. I don’t think that is uncommon at all. What good is a church that at best ignores its own community, and works to destroy it at worst? The problem is with the church, not the flock. I’d also say that it would be best for Whites and Europeans to have a religion that is not rooted in the ME, or that has origins in the religion of a hostile competing religion. No matter what Christ’s actual message was, Christianity will always be subject to hijacking.

    By modernity, I obviously mean more than religion and philosophy. It took real genius that was sustained over a long period of time to create modern science and technology, as well as the White Gentile societies in North America, Europe and elsewhere that largely created and fed off the advances. Whites have done fine, and the absence of Jewish achievements would have been little more than a bump in the road. So, no, I don’t buy the Jewish supremacy stuff. Smarter on average means little for a tiny group of people without the numbers or different strata of group members needed to run and defend a society, as long as they are kept in their place.

    I also agree that Gentile elites in Europe and America are a big part of the problem. But I don’t see them as vicious and purposely destructive, as many Jews obviously are. Gentile elites seem to be hostage to their own stupid and self-serving ideologies, and too comfortable and concerned with image to do a thing about the situation. That’s my view from the bottom, at least. They don’t care, and will see their lower-caste co-ethnics ground to dust to prove that they are virtuous, but that’s not the same as destroying out of sheer hatred.

  126. @Priss Factor

    I would say that popular culture has to spring from the people. What you call popular culture is really just carefully manufactured propaganda and psy ops. I’m sure you know better.

  127. @Priss Factor

    Priss, if any of that happened, it’s because you were hanging out with other nerds and cucks who put up with it. I’ve seen many blacks come out on the losing end of violence and sporting competitions. I don’t know a thing about erect penises of any color, so I’ll leave that to you.

  128. @K

    Don’t you think it’s an important distinction, you being “South Asian”?

    • 回复: @K
  129. Nobody 说:

    That the obsession with racial IQ is unhinged can be demonstrated with a simple observation: if whites are so clever, what accounts for white susceptibility to the stupidities of liberalism, feminism, and black identity politics? Evidently, high IQ is not protection against self-emasculation. Or stupidity.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  130. Logan 说:
    @Truth

    Not for most of it.

    Here is the definitive database. It’s widely accepted, as I said, as remarkably complete and accurate.

    http://www.slavevoyages.org/

    BTW, I have figured out that my 7% number above was a misreading of the numbers. It was more like 14% overall. But the mortality among slaver crews was 20% to 30%.

    • 回复: @Truth
  131. Logan 说:
    @attilathehen

    Ahh, classic misunderstanding of how statistics work.

    The average for a group, whether median or mean, tells us NOTHING AT ALL about any member of that group.

    Talha may be a super-genius. The average IQ for his country of origin simply does not provide us with any information about his IQ.

    Also, in America the term “Asian” generally refers to East Asians like Chinese, not South Asians like Pakistanis, who have even less in common with Chinese than they do with the Irish.

    So, what’s your definition of “white?” Iranians, Armenians, Kurds, Afghans? All live in Asia.

    Actually, I am sincerely curious. A lot of people on this website are obsessed, perhaps justifiably, with the decline of the white race. Seems like the first requisite for determining whether this is occurring would be defining who is and is not white. I have seen some of the oddest claims here. Among those some have pronounced, as if it were common knowledge, to be “not white” include: Russians, Italians, Jews, Greeks and Spanish. Even Irish!

    So what’s your definition of “white?” Who’s in and who’s out?

    The definition of Europe and Asia as different continents is entirely a cultural and racial one, BTW, since there is no logical geographic boundary. There is only the continent of Eurasia.

    • 回复: @AndrewR
  132. Jeff77450 说:

    奎因先生,与右翼的基本上每个人一样,你和我在各种问题上可能有 90% 的一致意见——但我们并不是 100% 一致。 事实上,你和我和史蒂夫赛勒、约翰德比郡、加文麦金尼斯、乔纳戈德堡、乔治威尔、大卫布鲁克斯、托马斯索威尔、沃尔特威廉姆斯、威廉克里斯托尔、保罗瑞安、兰德保罗和其他一千人不同意字面上地 *一切* 不会使我们成为坏人,也不意味着我们无法找到共同点来对抗共同的敌人,即左派的各种令人厌恶的表现。 顺便说一句,我是 *非常* 不满意 *任何人* 谁主张开放边界,就像一些右翼人士那样,我不会在初选中投票给他们。 但这并不意味着如果他们在任,我们就不能在其他问题上与他们合作,例如结束平权行动、削减赤字和缩小政府规模。

    我说了这么多是为了说:为什么美国的奴隶制,接着是一百年的吉姆·克劳,并没有“那么糟糕”,只是从来没有,永远有效。 这有点像说“只是”杀死受害者的连环杀手并不像在杀死受害者然后吃掉他们之前强奸和折磨受害者的连环杀手那么糟糕。 我知道我宁愿杀了我哪一个,但它仍然很糟糕。 一世 *强烈* 敦促你以后不要提出这种论点。 继续打好仗,祝周末愉快。 ——杰夫·约克在德克萨斯州休斯顿写作

    • 同意: Logan, Talha
    • 回复: @Hairway To Steven
  133. K 说:
    @Stripes Duncan

    I am guessing you mean because i was south-asian they were nice to me? If thats the case, let me tell you another incident. A friend of mine who was also a student of the college i studied in st.kitts was south-asian too. She was from newyork. She had a brother, who was ‘killed’ in new-york city by blacks who entered into his car while he was in the wrong part of the city. They robbed him and then killed him.

    Blacks in newyork killed a south-asian, but blacks in the caribbean rarely even looked at south-asians in a threatening way.

    • 回复: @Stripes Duncan
  134. Truth 说:
    @Priss Factor

    There was a game that white kids and black kids used to play together in 4th grade called ‘suck my dic*’. Kids would compete to see who could assemble the wooden puzzle faster, and the loser would have to ‘suck’ the winner’s thing.

    We were playing kickball and relay racing in 4th grade.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  135. Truth 说:
    @Logan

    So you’re telling me now that the mortality rate amongst sailors was higher than it was amongst livestock? I’m sure you just made the day of thousands of exotic animals.

    Let me tell you a theory rapidly gaining speed; there was no trans-Atlantic slave trade – all a fraud. Why do people believe this? because there is NOT ONE remnant of a slave ship, anywhere. You can find a 300 year old inkwell at a garage sale, but there is no evidence, other than photos.

    Now that’s all interesting, but the “why” is where it really gets mind-blowing; and y’aint ready for that.

    • 回复: @Talha
    , @Logan
  136. @Anonymous

    Isn’t Ashkenazi iq in Israel much lower than Ashkenazi iq outside of Israel? If so, that may be a result of the need to produce a full society that includes soldiers, farmers, service people, etc., and Ashkenazim also do those things in Israel in fairly large numbers.

    The first time I came across iq figures for Ashkenazim was in an old psychology or anthropology book I found in my high school library. The figure given was 103 or 105, which seems to have been standard for a long time. The book was probably published in the 1950s or 60s, if that means much. Where did the extra 10-12 iq points that are lately attributed to diaspora Ashkenazim come from?

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Logan
    , @Wizard of Oz
  137. @Truth

    是的,我做到了。

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  138. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    All the slave math seems like fantasy to me, designed solely to paint the negro victim portrait.

    e.g. “400 years” Trope – my math reveals that from Columbus arrival circa 1492AD to the present day is 525 years. But the slave trade TO North America effectively ended in 1833 with the English abolition and the trade within North America ended entirely at the close of the Civil War with the South’s surrender in 1865. Further, the first African slaves brought to the North America British colonies appear to be a small group of 20 sold in Jamestown circa 1519AD and the first commercial tobacco crop wasn’t until almost a century later in 1612AD (dates from PBS “Slavery and the Making of America”). Let’s be extra and use 1519. 400 years later was 1919. Slavery? No. Using 1612 puts us at 2012. Slavery? Perhaps Wage Slavery against whites who are forced into lifelong labor so Government can raise its annual crop of African criminals on welfare.

    And it hardly ends with lying about the duration. As the OP notes, there are enormous issues with the numbers and with the treatment of slaves in America’s South. One commenter claimed “daily” ship arrivals for over “300 years”. Let’s do some more math. A ship might carry 200 Africans to live delivery in the New World. So 200 x 365 = 73,000/yr arriving. 73,000 x 300 = 21,900,000. Obviously a much larger number than the 11,000,000 total brought across the Atlantic according to “experts.” So let’s try working backwards. 400,000 imported to the Colonies and later States total would yield: 400,000 / 314 = 1,274/yr. That’s 1,274 / 200 = 6/ships per year. In Central and South America, with their 10,600,000 imports, 10,600,000 / 314 = 33,758/yr. 33,758 / 200 = 168/ships per year into ALL of Central and South America.

    In regard to treatment, given only 400,000 imports versus the total African population circa 1870, America failed miserably at the “genocide” often claimed by negro activists. America committed “reverse genocide” by converting 400,000 imports into 4,800,009 low IQ “African Americans.” And the typical Southern plantation may have had a single white family with more than 20 slaves. If these slaves had it so bad, they could easily have overwhelmed their master, his wife, and children in the middle of the night when they were not guarded and completely vulnerable. Yet they did this so rarely that Nat Turners failed revolt was regarded as Historic. Why? In fact, white masters gave slaves FAR better living conditions than most native Africans enjoyed. They were NEVER eaten. Think about that. African cannibalism was so common as to be mundane. Tribes captured others and simply ate them if they couldn’t sell them to stupid white slavers on the coast. Being sent to the coast was a chance at life, while being sent to the captors’ villages meant you were on the menu. And being shipped to America was the equivalent of the African lottery of the day. In America, stupid whites would encourage rampant reproduction, provision of Western medical care, clean water, no famine, no cannibalism, potential literacy, etc. This was like lifelong accommodation in the Ritz Carlton compared to life in Africa for the loser captured by another tribe. Brutal? Genocide? You decide, but decide based on life as it really existed in Africa and in America circa 1519-1865.

    • 同意: anarchyst
    • 回复: @Corvinus
  139. Talha 说:
    @Truth

    Now that’s all interesting, but the “why” is where it really gets mind-blowing; and y’aint ready for that.

    They were already here?

    Is this gaining traction in academic circles? I’d love a reference bro.

    和平:

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Truth
    , @Truth
  140. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Talha

    Either that or they walked.

    • 回复: @Talha
  141. Corvinus 说:
    @Cranberries

    “Your reference contradicts this regardless of one’s definition of white, unless your definition of “white” is the result of some bizarre gerrymandering that excludes the bulk of Europe.”

    There are 27 white countries. There are 28 non-white countries. Figure it out.

    “The rest of your response is irrelevant. Your assertion that whites have a shorter future-time orientation (on average) than blacks has nothing to do with variance or nature/nurture, and it is contradicted by your own reference.”

    You are other than accurate. The author clearly stated “We see the usual correlates. Countries that are richer; more Germanic; less corrupt; more intelligent – they all have more future time orientation. In countries that have a Communist legacy future time orientations are perhaps lower than we might expect them to be otherwise”.

    • 回复: @Cranberries
  142. Truth 说:
    @Talha

    那是理论。

    Basically, there were two types of “Native Americans”, the vast majority, and those in the Atlantic region were…Black!

    The Westerners (generally speaking) were what we know as “Indians” today, but of course, the Europeans landed on the East Coast.

    Now as far as academic circles, how much do you believe of what you learn in academic circles? They are sophisticated indoctrination camps for people who are not as smart as they think they are. And the indoctrination starts at age 5.

    But that’s not the interesting part, the interesting part is the “why” and it goes back to the Old Testament…

  143. Truth 说:
    @Talha

    Another puzzle piece:

    • 回复: @Talha
  144. Corvinus 说:
    @Stan d Mute

    Hate fact –> 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

    So, Stan, you can massage the numbers all you want, but the truth remains that greedy Europeans enslaved Africans by force.

    “America failed miserably at the “genocide” often claimed by negro activists. America committed “reverse genocide” by converting 400,000 imports into 4,800,009 low IQ “African Americans.”

    [Laughs] you mean WHITES committed “reverse genocide”, if even such a term exists.

    ” If these slaves had it so bad, they could easily have overwhelmed their master, his wife, and children in the middle of the night when they were not guarded and completely vulnerable.”

    And go where, genius? The bottom line is that in general slaves were treated poorly. Chiefly, they had their freedom taken from them.

    If slaves had it so good, prove it. Become a slave. See how you like it.

    • 回复: @Truth
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  145. Truth 说:
    @Corvinus

    Hate fact –> 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

    LOL, that’s another thing I ‘ve always wondered, why these guys are “Pan-European” when it’s convenient.

    E.g.: When they see an African in a documentary on Spain:

    “Uuugh, those damn Knee-grows are ruining Europe!!!”

    But, when talking about the slave trade:

    “Hey, it was those nasteee, EEEVIL Spaniards and Portuguese that got most of the slaves, I’m German, ain’t got nothin to do with me.”

    • 哈哈: Talha
  146. Talha 说:
    @Anon

    I don’t have too difficult of a time believing that some might have been here already in small numbers. Some of the African Empires in that region were very wealthy and had contact with Northern Africa (both knowledge transfer and trade). It is known that some of the African Emperors even had Turkish slaves as imperial guards. Also, many, many historical manuscripts are still being collected and archived. It is not a far fetched idea that a couple of ships were commissioned to be sent that used Turkish or North African Barbary knowledge and staffed by Africans. A bit like the idea that Vikings also reached North America in small numbers.

    But in large, significant numbers? Well, the record on the other side is that there were entire Muslim sultanates like Futa Toro that were predicated on ending the French slave trade in their areas and there is independent documentation in the African Muslim lands (who were quite literate, thank you very much) that attests to the slave trade (some Muslims certainly made money off of it) so it would have to have been a massive conspiracy if we are talking large scale.

    和平:

    • 回复: @Anon
  147. Talha 说:
    @Truth

    嘿,真相

    I’m open to these kinds of theories, especially since we are discovering/unearthing new things all the time. I understand there are a bunch of ideological influences in academia, but I feel more comfortable knowing it’s gone through some kind of critical cross-examination process at some public level of discourse (peer review by experts) and survived.

    By the way – the link to the image doesn’t work.

    和平:

    • 回复: @Truth
  148. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Talha

    Good points; the difference being that Norse (not necessarily entirely Vikings) routinely sailed long distances in open ocean across the North Atlantic, which (the Atlantic) is a very unfriendly sea, whereas the Arabs do not seem to have done so, much less the pre-Muslim West Africans.

    Even the Portuguese do not seem to have done so until the radical advances in shipbuilding in the 15th century.

    Sure, there could have been minuscule numbers of Africans or whoever washed up in the New World, but if there was a significant population of their descendents (who would obviously no longer be African in any intelligible sense) there seems little reason for a vast conspiracy across all the Americas and Europe to hide the fact.

    • 回复: @Truth
    , @Talha
  149. Corvinus 说:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Do you even realize how bad Truth burned you? No, you didn’t catch the subtle dig.

    • 回复: @Beefcake the Mighty
  150. gT 说:

    Blacks kids grow up faster, because they had to in Africa, white kids just grow slower. So while black kids might look better at school, from a physical standpoint, when in their twenties and thirties the whites catch up and then just leave the blacks behind in the dirt in the standpoint that really counts, \$\$\$.

    Whites also tend to become heavier at the same height, because white males have wider hips than black males, and whites have better grey matter due to the longer, slower growth cycle.

    So while some can be cocky when younger and talk a lot when they are younger, others can be condescending when older and only their talk matters when they are older.

    Females are status inclined / socially aware, they open their legs to whoever they see as having higher status / social standing at a particular point in time.

  151. Truth 说:
    @Talha

    I understand, Talha. Once you did into what the world is, and what it isn’t, then the picture makes much more sense, For instance, you have walked 4 mph, you have driven 50mph in a car, step outside and ask yourself sometime; “am I really moving at 70,000 mph (around the sun) right now, and simultaneously rotating at say, 500mph, (depending upon where you live)? Why does the air miraculously move at 500 mph with me, why don’t mountains swishing through the air at 500mph cause hurricanes?, why are there placid lakes?”etc. Nothing you find that is “critically cross-examined” in the halls of Ivy, will help you with these questions. The link I provided was a quote by General Bin Nasser of Egypt.

  152. Truth 说:
    @Anon

    the difference being that Norse (not necessarily entirely Vikings) routinely sailed long distances in open ocean across the North Atlantic, which (the Atlantic) is a very unfriendly sea, whereas the Arabs do not seem to have done so, much less the pre-Muslim West Africans.

    Erik the Red looked different back then:

    • 回复: @Talha
  153. @Corvinus

    There are 27 white countries. There are 28 non-white countries. Figure it out.

    Your ability to change the subject is impressive. Who said anything about white vs non-white? You made a claim about white vs black time preference– specifically, that “whites have a much shorter future-time orientation on average”. I pointed out this is incorrect by your own citation. There are only 2 black countries (Angola and Nigeria) in the cited data. Both have very short “future-time orientation”. To choose some subset of the 27 white countries you count that would lead to a lower average than that between Angola and Nigeria would be quite the tortured definition of “white”.

    You are other than accurate. The author clearly stated “We see the usual correlates. Countries that are richer; more Germanic; less corrupt; more intelligent – they all have more future time orientation. In countries that have a Communist legacy future time orientations are perhaps lower than we might expect them to be otherwise”.

    This is also irrelevant… I’ve made no claims about the effects of Communism, wealth, or intelligence on time-preference.

    You made a plain-as-day error but all you can do is double down.

  154. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Where did the extra 10-12 iq points that are lately attributed to diaspora Ashkenazim come from?

    Propaganda, most likely – designed to justify the massive over-representation of Jews at the top of the pyramid. Meanwhile, anyone with eyes can see that the sectors dominated by Jews are decidedly 不能 run by geniuses. Just look at the US foreign policy, MSM or Hollywood. They can also see the difference between meritocracy and nepotism.

    In any case, Israel (75% Jewish) scores a mere 95 IQ points while the UK scores 100 in spite of being only ~80% white. Clearly, the whites there already have an advantage and if you want to compare the smartest Jewish sub-tribe (Ashkenazi) it’s only fair to apply the same methodology to the white Brits.

    http://archive.is/z2yxc

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

  155. Talha 说:
    @Anon

    This was basically my point. What is known so far about naval warfare of that area was that some of the African Empires had developed very solid river-faring boats that were necessary to project power and protect trade across the various river networks and deltas in the region. Other than a couple of large lakes, Sub-Saharan Africa doesn’t even have major seas. So basically it’s rivers and then massive oceans to each side.

    The Sahara also served the role of being a massive sand-ocean in keeping that area isolated from the rest of humanity. Sure nomadic peoples had been crossing it for ages, but nomads don’t develop civilizations.

    What is also known – and none of this is controversial, so it hardly needs references – is that the Muslim African elite (men like Mansa Musa, Askiya Muhammad, etc.) used to make Hajj. They obviously didn’t make a bee-line across the Sahara as that would have been suicide. Rather, they cut North and then traveled East across the established routes in North Africa. This put them into contact with ancient sea-faring cities like Tunis, Alexandria, even towns like Cairo, etc. For instance, the famous Djinguereber Mosque was built by local man-power, but designed by an Andalusian architect.

    These elite, having seen first-hand what the rest of the world had to offer – were intelligent enough to invite and support men-of-learning from as far away as Persia, Egypt, Morocco and Spain to help seed the knowledge of things like Islamic law (Maliki school mostly), medicine, math, astronomy, etc. Even martial knowledge was transferred – which is one of the reasons you see that the largest and most successful African Empires were Muslim run. After a few centuries, the dissemination of knowledge was completely taken over by scholars of indigenous stock.

    For these reasons, I was mentioning that is not far-fetched to imagine that some of the same elites would have brought over shipwrights and those with maritime knowledge from those areas after having seen some of the most active harbors of the Mediterranean. Kings, with more gold and slaves than they know what to do with, can easily support a pet project like a couple of long-range naval expeditions. Whether that did happen and if they were successful is another story.

    和平:

    • 回复: @Anon
  156. Talha 说:
    @Truth

    Bro – your links aren’t working. Maybe it’s just me??!! Getting access denied – even though I logged in.

    • 回复: @Truth
  157. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Talha

    Right- but Mediterranean (or Indian Ocean) sailing and Atlantic sailing are two quite different things, as you will appreciate by reading Caesar’s account of the Gallic wars, or, really, any account of ancient or medieval sea travel, or by sailing any kind of craft. Norse ships were designed for open-ocean Atlantic sailing; Arab ships and the ships of the various other medieval Mediterranean maritime powers were not.

    Even with Norse-style ships, crossing the Atlantic is a dicey proposition, especially without “modern” (more modern than the Vikings, that is) navigational technology.

    It’s certainly possible that you could line up a bunch of dhows, or, heck, even a bunch of rafts (Kon-tiki style), and sail west on them, and maybe some would make landfall, and maybe the sailors on them would still be alive. The possibility seems like a rather shaky basis for a grand theory of racial origins though.

    Some information here: https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/12386/why-did-it-take-so-long-for-humanity-to-be-able-to-cross-the-oceans

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Talha
  158. iffen 说:
    @George Weinbaum

    they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous

    Apparently he found Sally Hemings quite tasty.

    • 回复: @Talha
  159. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    And we may talk of Columbus’s sailing, but even he never tried to go ‘railing from Ennis as far as Kilkee.

  160. Talha 说:
    @Anon

    Arab ships and the ships of the various other medieval Mediterranean maritime powers were not.

    Agreed – which is why I stated: “Whether that did happen and if they were successful is another story.” History is usually preparation and initiative coupled with a fair amount of good fortune. It would be nice to discover a couple of hulls in the deep trenches to know if they even attempted though.

    Kon-tiki style

    Expeditions like that one definitely show it is in the realm of theoretical possibility – especially if you take into account actual naval vessels of the time.

    The possibility seems like a rather shaky basis for a grand theory of racial origins though.

    Yeah – though speculation is fun – I’d have to see a lot more evidence to overturn the general consensus.

    和平:

  161. Talha 说:
    @iffen

    Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
    Sold in the market down in New Orleans
    Scarred old slaver knows he’s doin’ all right
    听到他在午夜左右鞭打女人
    Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
    红糖,就像一个年轻女孩应该做的那样
    Drums beatin’ cold, English blood runs hot
    Lady of the house wonderin’ when it’s gonna stop
    House boy knows that he’s doin’ all right
    You should have heard him just around midnight
    Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
    红糖,就像一个年轻女孩应该做的那样
    Brown Sugar, how come you dance so good
    Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should
    I bet your mama was a Cajun Queen,
    And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen
    I’m no school boy but I know what I like
    You should have heard them just around midnight
    Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
    Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should

  162. Logan 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    If there was anybody at Jamestown to buy the slaves in 1519, it must have been an enormous shock to King James, who wasn’t born til 1566.

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
  163. Logan 说:
    @Truth

    “So you’re telling me now that the mortality rate amongst sailors was higher than it was amongst livestock”

    对。

    You know, Europeans were sailing around African constantly from 1500 on, but European invasion and conquest didn’t get going till the middle 19th century. Many centuries after European colonies had been established in Asia and the Americas, mostly much farther away.

    Why do you think that was?

    Because Europeans who went to Africa died. A slave factor on the African coast had an average life expectancy of about six months.

    Europeans sailors who spent weeks or months on the African coast got sick and died in the same way. After the African diseases were to a good extent transplanted to the Caribbean, much the same happened there. Entire armies and fleets disappeared from disease.

    European conquest of Africa didn’t start, it couldn’t, until medicine finally got something of a handle on disease to where soldiers and traders could survive lone enough to do any good.

    • 回复: @iffen
  164. @Corvinus

    No, I caught it. And you are a cuck.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  165. @Anonymous White Male

    You also shill that blacks have bigger voices and this makes Whites respect blacks as ‘masterful’. Oh, you mean that blacks are louder and noisier than Whites? Are you White? Do you respect blacks as “masterful”?

    没关系 I think. I have zero power in the world. What matters is global perception.

    This Jungalo-Cuck video got 500 million views. Today, ideology and creeds are irrelevant in the culture war that is about sensationalization of animalism.

    White girls and all girls worldwide are growing up to images and sounds like that. That is presented as ‘innocent’ entertainment(as there are much raunchier stuff). At the Ariana concert in UK there were many little girls.

    Rightists bitch about Muslims, Sharia, and that nonsense, but for every person in the west who reads the Koran, a 10,000 listen to rap and music like song above. This is why even Japanese women are seeking out black men and having kids with them and raising them to beat Japanese in Japan. And PC forces in Japan are elevating mulattoes like royalty. Globalism is a worldwide tsunami that spreads Afromania all over.

    But because of hurt white male pride and because honest discussion about blacks is deemed ‘racist by PC, even rightists would rather bitch about sharia and Muslims instead. Rightists who pretend that Muslims are the main threat are really just alt-cucks. They attack Muslims for blowing up Ariana Grande concert(as ‘western liberty’) when what her ilk is promoting has more dire consequences for the white race.

    Pop Culture is THE culture in the West. It is more powerful than any religion, ideology, political party, etc. Indeed, the rise of homomania owes to the pop-culturalization of society where moral values are now about appeasing celebrities. Video games pop music, and blockbuster movies are even at the center of serious discourse among elites and academics. Mothers and daughters read the same 50 shades of grey novels.

    Now, what is the MAIN theme of Pop Culture? Other than homomania, is it not Jungle Fever and ACOWW? Who can deny this?

    So, while so many people discuss ‘serous’ ideas, the future is really being determined by the power of idols and sensations, by the siren calls of pop culture. Apollo has lost out to Dionysus and Aphrodite is now Afrodite into having mulatto babies.

    Just do the math. Millions upon millions of Africans are coming to Europe. EU culture is now pop culture. Furthermore, interracism, esp between black male and white female, is promoted by both pop culture and PC. Hollywood even plans to make next Bond 007.

    It’s not about what I think. I can agree with you 100%, and it won’t make the slightest difference.
    The fact is globalism worships the magic negro and mandingo. That crazy novel is now becoming the unspoken ideology of the West via pop culture. It says “white girl liberation means running to Negro, and white makes better accept and even praise this or else be called ‘racist’.” Even though kids are made to read TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, the pop culture that they really obsess over is about MANDINGO. PC professes Mockingbird, Pop Culture promotes Mandingo. (Mandingo is the novel that should really be included in the curriculum.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandingo_(novel)

    So, what is the bigger threat to UK? Muslims and odd cases of terrorism OR massive Afro-colonization of white wombs via idolatry and mass immivasion?

    Just think. Even if I agree with you 100%, would it make any difference to current dire trends?

    • 回复: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  166. iffen 说:
    @Logan

    Because Europeans who went to Africa died.

    Which also explains how some of the mulatto descendants of those first Europeans became the “middle men” in part of the slave trade for a few hundred years.

    • 回复: @Logan
  167. AndrewR 说:
    @Logan

    Whiteness is on a spectrum. Swedes are whiter than Greeks. Greeks are whiter than Persians. Persians are whiter than Indians. North Indians are whiter than Dravidians, many of whom are completely non-white.

    Jews are a special case. They must always be considered non-white. A failure to do so allows them to subvert and dominate any white society.

    • 回复: @Logan
  168. oooff 说:
    @Priss Factor

    I think Priss Factor is correct. Black people have a very strong physical presence and many young black men have tremendous unwarranted confidence. In high school, my daughter was the recipient of many dick pics from black males accompanied by bold assertions of a brotha’s superiority. Older white people do not realize how bad things are for the young. First whites are a minority and second everything white is seen as unearned. So if white achievement is simply on the backs of minorities, then anyone could have accomplished “white” achievement. If that is the case that white achievement is not the result of white intelligence, then blacks with their overt presence must be superior to whites because they have the same native intelligence, but an obvious superior physicality. Since black guys are bigger and stronger and since the mothers and fathers of white boys choose to neuter their own sons via advancing notions of “white privilege” and “diversity,” white boys are cucked by societal structure. They must then watch as a high fraction of white girls get with black boys (it is not a lie). Since black boys are so often very different in personality and physicality, and since young nubile women are the prize of society, it must devastate the psyche to realize that people such as yourself are not the object of desire (see the happas at reddit). Of course, female desire is pushed in this direction by the parents of the white boys who advance “diversity” and lie about white achievement, so the situation is tragic. The situation is worse because you don’t need young white men underperforming since there is zero chance that young black men are going to pick up the slack. While I am not against interracial relationship because there are wonderful people of all races, and terrible people of all races, the problem is that white parents are basically creating a structure that amplifies black qualities and lowers white qualities. This cannot be good for society. What white man is going to invest heavily in his family and push to his limits if he thinks his wife, at some level, prefers a man so different from himself. I would say black people have as much to lose as whites from this very reality.

    • 回复: @dcite
  169. @Logan

    “However, men are more variable, meaning there are fewer “average” men and more high-IQ and low-IQ men than women.”

    Exactly. So the more high-IQ brothas with IQs circa high 90’s to low 100’s will go for “average” women of mean IQs of 100. Which tend to leave white men out in the cold.

    谢谢你提出这个观点。

    祝你有美好的一天。

  170. @Corvinus

    Ok, then get in line for reparations. Lord knows you and your kind deserve it for having ancestor(s) who were once enslaved. Go ahead. Apply for reparations for hundreds of yrs of slavery since the price paid to blacks hasn’t been paid in full as of 2017.

    前进。

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  171. @Priss Factor

    “And PC forces in Japan are elevating mulattoes like royalty. ”

    Yeah, all five of them. Japan remains ca.98% racially Asian (fully Japanese). They don’t accept many refugees, let alone immigrants. Remember, Brazilians about some thirty yrs ago were sent back to Brazil (certainly some of them had African heitage mixed in).

    Japan remains an exception to the rule: Ethnicity trumps Mandingo.

    You have the right to your own opinions, not your own facts.

  172. Yeah, all five of them. Japan remains ca.98% racially Asian (fully Japanese).

    I didn’t say Japan as of NOW is filled with Negroes.

    I said it may happen in the future.

    为什么?

    Because even though there are few blacks in Japan now, Negropholia is a cancer in Japan, and cancer spreads. No matter how small it begins, it spread and spreads and never stops spreading.

    Even in the past, there were some blacks in Japan, mostly due to US military presence and rappers/jazz artists. But back then, Japan regarded them as a mere presence, not some ideal to promote. Things are different now.

    1. Japanese no longer have the kind of pride they did. Most Japanese grew up as only-child. This happened over three generations, and this means many Japanese have no uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces, nephews. The kind of Japanese family culture seen in Ozu films are gone.
    Instead, Japanese kids grew up as single kids identifying with comic books, video games, professional fighters, and etc. So, Japanese grew up as loners, not as members of family instilled with Japanese culture and identity.

    2. Japanese have become more accepting of foreign domination. The most sacred sport of Japan is sumo, but Japanese allowed Mongols to totally take over and break all records. Now, Mongols are East Asians and similar to Japanese, but this should be humiliating, but Japan just accepted it like a bitch. Mongols failed to invade Japan but now they did. But what is interesting is how Japanese didn’t take measures to stop importation of Mongols. MORE were brought to whup Japanese even more. It wont’ be long before Negroes enter and totally whup all Japanese and hump the ho’s.

    3. Anime, manga, video games, and J-pop made Japanese favor fantasy over reality. Also, these are all trans-racial and Japanese are mentally wanna-be-whites. But there is growing rap culture, and Japanese are into black culture. Many Japanese girls try to be gangsta and grow up listening rap. This means many young Japanese feel more globo-Afro than Japanese.

    4. There is a whole subculture where Japanese women seek out black men. A military guy who spent a lot of time in Yokohama told me that many Japanese women are into jungaru fever. And Japanese men are a bunch of cucks. He told me cuck culture is there in Japan too. Japanese men have white men and black men hump their ho’s, and cuck pornography is a big thing in Japan. Jus think about it. Japan has few blacks, but their culture is already like this.

    5. Already, children of Japanese women who went with blacks are making big splash in media and sports. Some mulatto was Ms. Japan, and mulatto Japanese win Olympic medals. This makes Japanese see mulatto-ism as a good thing since it wins blings for Japan. Never mind that these mulattoes are products of Japanese women rejecting Japanese men as inferior.

    In the past, there were some mulattoes in Japan, but Japanese treated them like other minorities. Nuisance that had to be tolerated. But now, Japanese are promoting such people as the new ideal.
    Also, as US dominates global discourse, mistreatment of blacks is a far bigger issue than, say, mistreating other minorities. So, Japanese have imbibed ‘white guilt’ and try to prove that it is a ‘good nation’ by being pro-black. This will remove stigma from race-mixing, and more Japanese women will go black and have mulatto babies. Blacks, like Jews and homos, must get special consideration since they are protected by globalism as special people. If Japanese mistreat Iranian minorities, who cares? But if some Negro cries ‘racism’ in Japan, it’s in the NY Times.

    6. Japanese men have already lost sexual confidence. By some news accts, 50% of Japanese men have given up on sex and marriage and look forward to buying sex robots. And 80% of Japanese women say they are sexually unsatisfied. Now, combine those factors with globalism, Liberal Japanese media’s promotion of diversity-blacks-interracism, and you now have a mechanism in place to expand more interracism with blacks.

    7. Japanese now feel morally defensive about their homogeneity. They don’t feel proud of it and apologize when pressed about it. In the past, Japanese were proud about their homogeneity and wrote books about how Japanese are a unique people. Now, such ideas are absent, and Japanese media push interracism and diversity.

    So, when we take into account all these factors, the problem of interracism isn’t just a wound. It is now a cancer, and it will accelerate.

    We are told that Shinzo Abe is right-wing and ultra-nationalist, but it’s of no use. As Japan is whore nation of the US, it can’t do much with its so-called nationalism. What matters is what happens among the people, and they are cucked, infantilized(with kawaii culture), atomized and isolated, and globalized.

    And Japanese women have lost respect in Japanese men who now act and talk like pansies and dorks. And easy travel makes it possible for Japanese women to seeking Negro men. And as it’s no longer frowned upon by Japanese society, it will spread and spread. Also, Japanese women are raised to be whores. Their fathers are TV-addicted morons and their mothers are whores themselves into adultery and stuff.

    Japanese power was always collective and traditional. It’s a delicate ecology. As individuals, Japanese are vulnerable. Japanese men are small and can be whupped by any man. Also, they are timid and lack personality. IN the past, Japanese men and women were part of a cultural ecology, and they married according to collective rules and customs. But as they’ve broken down, atomized Japanese men withdraw into video game land, and Japanese women seek out better men or watch TV soap for fantasy.

    It is a cancer.

    • 回复: @Anonymous White Male
  173. @Jeff77450

    The fact that you (or anyone else) would even need to write that last paragraph — that is, that there was actually someone out there who hadn’t already figured that fairly simple truth out for himself — is what I find so interesting.

  174. @K

    What happened to your friend’s unfortunate brother in savage New York City has no bearing on why you were treated differently than white people would be treated on St. Kitts.

    I think you know that and that’s why you tried to make an apples-to-oranges comparison for effect.

    • 回复: @K
  175. Anonymous [AKA "Jim K."] 说:

    Whites supremacists must feel so low these days, with the obvious decline of America and the ascent of China that the only hope left for them is to feel superior to blacks! How sad indeed. Just read some of the comments to this useless article.

    • 回复: @Hairway To Steven
  176. Corvinus 说:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Ok, then get in line for reparations. Lord knows you and your kind deserve it for having ancestor(s) who were once enslaved. Go ahead. Apply for reparations for hundreds of yrs of slavery since the price paid to blacks hasn’t been paid in full as of 2017. Go ahead.”

    Dude, I’m a white American man who is married with children. Besides, had you been paying closer attention, prominent black people have responded that slave reparation money would be foolishly spent.

    • 回复: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  177. @OilcanFloyd

    I recall some article by Ron Unz noting the Flynn-on-speed increase of measured American Jewish IQs from I think about 1920 to 1950. Ron usuallly gets that sort of thing pretty well right so it might be worth hunting down.

  178. @FX Enderby

    Things that had to be done were done but at fraction of costs what you told to believe.
    Russia was no paradise in the first place when Bolsheviks came to power. it was hell and Stalin did turn things around.
    Russia paid price for delayed changes that should have taken place 100 years prior.
    Regarding Khrushchev, if you believe that traitorous liar and imbecile, it is your problem.

    • 回复: @Hairway To Steven
  179. @Nobody

    An equally simple obvservation is that it is about averages and that it is better for your population of fellow taxpayers and voters to have an average (approx normally distributed) IQ of 105 than 95, or 100 for that matter, not to put too much weight on the accuracy of measurement.

  180. K 说:
    @Stripes Duncan

    Let me ask you something, why was i or my friends treated differently in st.kitts?

  181. @Sergey Krieger

    “Stalin did turn things around.”

    I’ll just let that one sentence of yours stand alone. Assuming that you’re not engaging in some kind of whimsical trollery, I just want to admire the audaciousness of its irony and the elegance of its stupidity.

  182. @Anonymous

    Yuh, sure there are a few white-robe-wearing types around this joint, but a lot of us find this topic interesting because, well, it’s interesting — both as a matter of scientific inquiry and as a reflection of the state of the culture. In a few decades or so, I’m guessing that this matter is going to be finally settled by science unless the people looking into it are so starved of funds and feel so personally threatened by the deluge of hate and invective aimed at them that, in the absence of extraordinary moral courage, they’ll all look for other areas of research. But science usually produces its own momentum, and I’m counting on this to carry the research forward.

  183. jb 说:

    Personally I was delighted with McWhorter’s article! That a respected black academic, writing in a semi-respected mainstream publication, should acknowledge the possibility that the black/white IQ gap might be genetic, is 巨大 progress!!! This, along with the Vox 文章 he references, have left me feeling more optimistic that I have in quite a while.

    Everything else is just nitpicking. Let McWhorter have his opinion on the origin of the gap. Frankly, while I think he is wrong, I don’t think it’s a crazy argument, and in fact I can’t rule out the possibility that some version of it might be right. In fact I would like to defend McWhorter here as someone who has shown an amazing amount of intellectual courage and integrity. To acknowledge even the 可能性 of genetic IQ differences, not to mention writing of antiracism as our new national religion, takes real bravery, and I salute him for it.

    Of course I agree with Spencer Quinn that if low achievement by blacks is going to be taken as proof of racist oppression by whites, then whites ought to be able to defend themselves by bringing up IQ. However I notice that both McWhorter and Quinn miss an interesting distinction: the distinction between the existence of the gap, and its origin. The thing is, whether or not the IQ gap is genetic or cultural, it 存在, and that fact alone has great consequences. McWhorter might have argued that whites could bring up IQ to argue against affirmative action and white guilt, but shouldn’t bring genetics into it. (In fact from a tactical point of view I think this is often the better approach even for white nationalists). But instead he argues against bringing up IQ at all, and here I think his argument fails. But as I said, this is nitpicking — at this point I am just really happy with the progress being made.

  184. dcite 说:
    @oooff

    A lot of people here don’t get out much, although your reference to the young and social media porn, is good information. I know white women who have dated, or even lived with/married, blacks. They are not fixated, as a rule. I don’t know why, as I don’t ask too many questions, but they mostly find out it just doesn’t work. There is far more to life than sex, and I even wonder how that can really be compatible in races so different in their mentality, for so much of sex happens in the mind and heart. Even physically I recall the aversion to it when discussed in high school by more or less free spirited persons. You can get used to almost anything though. The success rate for bm/wf partners is very low, and has a very high incidence of violence. Wm/bf are more near the average rate of success, but even there the male half is in more danger than if he were with a white or Asian. There are successful bw marriages, but not many. Most of the sex is among young people who don’t know what the hell they’re doing, and just hope they use birth control, because they ALWAYS regret the results if they don’t.
    btw, Caucasoid populations in Asia and parts of Africa have lived in close proximity for centuries, and envy on the part of the whites (as they call themselves) is not characteristic. More often, aspiration to more Caucasoid features is desired by both races.

    • 回复: @oooff
    , @Truth
  185. dcite 说:
    @K

    You put “white person” in quotes, as in your only bad experience was “weirdly from a ‘white person.’ You’re only bad experience. Weirdly. Interesting. So does weirdly having an only bad experience with a black person in a predominantly white area analgous? Because we have those all the time. But it’s not “weird.”
    The owners of bars and other tourist traps are not going to “bother” you. They want to make money and form a fairly small percentage of the total population. Tourists do not go beyond a certain pale (no pun intended). If these islands are so safe, then they must have sent all their dangerous people to the U.S., because here aside from a few entrepreneurs, they continue the tradition of making a neighborhood high crime and dangerous.

  186. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Priss Factor

    According to the bio, he was humping white girls all over the place. If a bisexual closet-homo like Obama acts like that, imagine what the hulking nice negroes are doing.

    Obama wasn’t humping any girls. Ever. School mates and acquaintences (he didn’t exactly have friends) who hung out with him on the beach during the 70s remember him as a totally committed homosexual who favored older, white men. He was also unable to tell the truth, even when it had neutral results.
    Except in the official, PR, ghost written bios, there were no meaningful relationships with women of any color. Michelle is another thing. I don’t want to go there.

  187. Anonymous [AKA "nok"] 说:

    The writer of this article is not only ignorant of African history, he is also a racist… Every thing he know about Africa is after the invasion of Africa by slave raiders who later became colonial masters. to which after their invasion of Africa, they deliberately destroyed,twisted and obliterate some parts of our history, destroyed our heritage, contaminated our value system and stole some of our artifacts which are littered in various museums round the world.

    He should do more research in to African history, culture and heritage..

    The Benin empire was one of the most sophisticated empires in Africa before it fell to the white invaders

    The fulani have had contacts with the Arabs long before the British conquest and they were literate in Arabic studies.

    The igbos of Nigeria had a well developed writing system know as the Nsibidi which they shared with the Effiks and ibibios. They also had a well developed and flourishing metallurgical industry before it was destroyed and stolen by the in coming slave raiders. The Igbo-Ukwu bronzes amazed the world with a very high level of technical and artistic proficiency and sophistication which was at this time distinctly more advanced than bronze casting in Europe.[2] Peter Garlake compares the Igbo-Ukwu bronzes “to the finest jewelry of rococo Europe or of Carl Faberge,”[3] and William Buller Fagg states they were created with “a strange rococo almost Faberge type virtuosity.”[4] Frank Willett says that the Igbo-Ukwu bronzes portray a standard that is comparable to that established by Benvenuto Cellini five hundred years later in Europe.[5] Denis Williams calls them “an exquisite explosion without antecedent or issue.”[6] One of the objects found, a water pot set in a mesh of simulated rope is described by Hugh Honour and John Fleming as

    A virtuoso feat of cire perdue (lost wax) casting. Its elegant design and refined detailing are matched by a level of technical accomplishment that is notably more advanced than European bronze casting of this period.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology_of_Igbo-Ukwu

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  188. oooff 说:
    @dcite

    Regarding white women who date/marry black men, I believe the part about them not being fixated but it doesn’t matter because the damage is done. The issue is that social structure that has come to form where blacks are celebrated, their shortcomings are blamed on whites, and white abilities are said to come from cultural appropriation (if all black achievement in the past 500 years is total and quantified, does it equal howitzer canon?). Many white girls are left with mixed race children and a man must be the cuck of cucks to raise those kids. Maybe a great man would do it, but one thing is for sure: at the prime of her beauty, the wife gave herself to another man who doesn’t look like you. Overall destabalization takes place because no one wants to marry, or invest in a woman, if he believes she prefers something else. The male ego is too sensitive (a good thing as that can result in staggering amounts of productivity to provide for the mate).

    To anyone interested in the realities of interracial dating, I urge you to read r/happas. The sheer unadulterated pain in that forum should give anyone pause. People who dismiss it as sniveling are idiotic. There is a lot of pain in many interracial relationships; sometimes at the child’s level.

    xxxhttps://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/

  189. @Priss Factor

    “Japanese now feel morally defensive about their homogeneity. They don’t feel proud of it and apologize when pressed about it. In the past, Japanese were proud about their homogeneity and wrote books about how Japanese are a unique people. Now, such ideas are absent, and Japanese media push interracism and diversity.”

    “And Japanese women have lost respect in Japanese men who now act and talk like pansies and dorks. And easy travel makes it possible for Japanese women to seeking Negro men. And as it’s no longer frowned upon by Japanese society, it will spread and spread. Also, Japanese women are raised to be whores. Their fathers are TV-addicted morons and their mothers are whores themselves into adultery and stuff.”

    “As individuals, Japanese are vulnerable. Japanese men are small and can be whupped by any man. Also, they are timid and lack personality. IN the past, Japanese men and women were part of a cultural ecology, and they married according to collective rules and customs. But as they’ve broken down, atomized Japanese men withdraw into video game land, and Japanese women seek out better men or watch TV soap for fantasy.”

    Perhaps you can show us the data that makes this reality and not just the personal opinions of a black willy obsessed troll that got his butt kicked by blacks in school, apparently engaged with blacks in fellatio, and comes to this site to spread gossip, half-truths, distortions and irrational personal opinions. Say, Prissy, have you ever lived in Japan?

    • 回复: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  190. anarchyst 说:

    我在底特律长大,亲眼目睹了曾经伟大的城市的毁灭。 底特律衰落的原因有很多,但从未有过探讨或讨论过。
    1.贪婪的房地产经纪人的“轰动一时”。 房地产经纪人会寄出带有以下内容的明信片:“一个新家庭正在搬入您的邻居。 如果您想出售房屋,请致电xxx-xxxx。 “新家庭”是黑人家庭的委婉说法,被用来“鼓励”白人出售房屋。
    2. HUD(住房和城市发展)投机者和房地产骗子合谋“买断”并摧毁城市某些区域每个街区最好的房屋。 很多时候,“棚屋”被留下,而HUD购买了体面的住房并被夷为平地。 这样做是为了压低房产价值,让投机者更容易以“廉价地下室”的价格购买房产。
    我意识到第1项和第2项是相互抵消的,并且具有相互冲突的目的,但是它们在1960年代的底特律是现实。
    3. The 1967 riots did much to push whites out of Detroit. A little-known aspect of the Detroit riots was the application of spray-painted words on the exteriors of black-owned businesses. The words “soul brother” was spray-painted on businesses owned by blacks so that the “angels of death” (actually rioters) would spare them from destruction. Whole business districts around the city were destroyed, never to regain their former selves.
    4.选举底特律第一位黑人市长科尔曼·亚历山大·扬(Coleman Alexander Young)公开反对底特律的白人公民,同时与当天的“推动者和摇动者”(大商人)“融洽相处”(在竞选期间)捐款不断涌入)…。
    5. The abolition of the STRESS (Stop The Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets). This anti-criminal program was put in by mayor Young’s predecessor and was quite successful in “cleaning up the streets” of criminals. In this program, police officers would disguise themselves as vulnerable old people and walk through neighborhoods as “decoys”. Predatory criminals would attempt to rob these elderly citizens and quite often, were dispatched to “the great hereafter”. One of Young’s campaign promises was the abolition of the STRESS program as too many of “his people” were being eliminated. Upon the election of Young, the program was disbanded.
    这是这个曾经伟大的城市消亡的5个原因。

  191. anarchyst 说:

    …the 1957 and 1964 “civil-rights” acts revoked our right to “freedom of association” (only for whites) and replaced it with government-backed, and forced “public accommodation”. Try selling your house only to someone of your own race. Try renting an apartment or house only to someone of your own race…you will be shut down, if there is even an inkling of “discrimination” against a “protected” minority…
    This unconstitutional behavior by government has gotten worse, with moslems, homosexuals, and soon, pedophiles becoming a part of the “protected” classes…since “civil-rights” laws DO NOT APPLY to white males. Our esteemed “attorney general” Loretta Lynch and the head of the so-called Justice Department’s (actually “just us”) “civil-rights” division has stated as such…
    我们的白人男性已成为我们国家的三等公民。 看来,由于白人仅占世界人口的6%,因此我们将成为地球上受MOST保护的阶层的一部分。 当然,那将永远不会发生。 自愿隔离是唯一的答案。
    解决“房地产”问题的方法是,让一个大的土地所有者以“信托”方式提供土地。 这使政府脱离了世卫组织可能购买和享用土地的决定。 这只是在不违反误导的“公平住房”法律的情况下将“不受欢迎的人”拒之门外的一种方法……
    美国白人将不得不在我们自己的政府控制或干预之外提出解决方案……

  192. anarchyst 说:

    事实证明,一直抗议1950年代白人(包括我本人)反对强迫融合的做法都是正确的……
    当黑人拥有自己的机构,企业,社会组织,居住区等时,黑人的状况要好得多。
    是共产主义者和其他社会破坏者(“选择的”以及其他北部的“破坏者”)直接造成了我们目前的种族和社会弊端。
    我在第一个“民权主义”时代长大,对整个“民权运动”时代有截然不同的“看法”。 实际上,我亲眼看到了那些动荡时期中发生的事情。
    尽管所谓的“主流媒体”进行了谎言和捏造,但南方的“民权游行”并不是与狗和消防水带相遇的和平“聚会”,而是暴力的黑色对抗,实际上挫败了“真正的“公民权利”的“原因”。 。
    所谓的“民权”示威是一波无法无天的骚乱,破坏了和平公民的生活。 这些地区有许多黑人公民反对这些“局外人”到那里来制造麻烦。 这些“民权”游行者犯下了罪行,强奸,抢劫和其他罪行,并捣毁了他们抗议的地区。我在那里。 。 。 当然,在暴力事件发生时相机是关闭的。 。 然后,就像现在一样,新闻媒体无法“让危机浪费”。 。 。
    主要是 ACLU、\$PLC 和 ADL 类型激怒了事情。 . .然后后来“融入木制品”只是成为“民权”律师、种族骗子和贫困皮条客。
    我想到了一个事件-维奥拉·利祖佐夫人(Viola Liuzzo)夫人的去世。 里佐(Luzzuzz)是底特律的一位家庭主妇,她到“深南”(没有丈夫)晚上与“自由骑士”四处奔走,这是个麻烦的秘诀。 当她在底特律有一个家庭时,她晚上在南部与黑人一起经营什么生意? 她为什么要“以伤害方式”?
    在“民权”动乱期间,我在那里,目睹了这些“民权”群体的行为不当(从未得到报道)。 。 。
    当然,“胜利者”会写下历史。 对于胜利者来说,现在您所推动和支持的人现在正在打开您的感觉吗?
    所谓的“新闻媒体”当时就已经有了议程。 黑人白人犯罪(尽管相对罕见)始终被描述为“仇恨犯罪”,而黑人白人犯罪则从来没有被描述为“仇恨犯罪”。 。 实际上,所有犯罪都是“仇恨犯罪”。 。 。

  193. anarchyst 说:
    @Logan

    you sir, are incorrect. You are parroting what you learned in elementary school. Read the writings on the subject and you will come to the correct conclusion…

    • 回复: @Logan
  194. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    The Benin empire was one of the most sophisticated empires in Africa

    I know. I’ve created one of those in my backyard a few weeks ago.

  195. @Corvinus

    That’s not the same as saying that they unanimously are vs. receiving reparations. They missed getting it under Obama, but give it time, another administration will surely bring it up.

    Do show where they unanimously (via their appointed leaders) said, “Know what? We don’t want any free money thru reparations. Whitey, ya’ll can keep your money. We’re fine.” I mean, free give aways works for families of Michael Brown and others. Why not for the whole community in one fell swoop?

    Someone needs to inform Ta-Nehesi Coates that his community doesn’t want reparations, he seems to think its a legitimate issue to push.

  196. @Anonymous White Male

    He’s talking out of his hat. Mostly made up.

    AGAIN. ca.98% of Japan is racially ethnically Japanese. As in BOTH sides of one’s family are racially Japanese. Aside from the few US military who are stationed there, its extremely rare for ordinary Japanese to come into daily contact with blacks. Japanese isn’t an easy language for whites to learn, much less for blacks.

  197. Logan 说:
    @AndrewR

    Fair enough. Thanks for playing.

    However, you have defined “whiteness” not as a race, but as a characteristic. Which means I’m less white than my BIL, who looks like an SS recruiting poster.

    • 回复: @AndrewR
  198. Numinous 说:

    black slaves were offered their freedom if they would only rise up against their masters. They in large part refused.

    Most likely because they weren’t sure if the North would succeed in winning the war, and not because the slaves and masters had “affectionate” relations. If the South won, there would be reprisals against the rebel slaves to match what the Romans did to Spartacus and his followers. This is “duh” on a gigantic scale.

  199. Logan 说:
    @anarchyst

    You may notice that when I disagreed with your comment, I did you the honor of taking your argument seriously and provided a detailed explanation of why I disagreed.

    You, OTOH, responded with the witheringly effective argument of, “You’re wrong.”

    Then you appear to suggest that I should do my own research in order to prove you right.

  200. Numinous 说:
    @MarkinLA

    Not buying this given the types of ships that existed during the slave trade days. No more than a couple of hundred on a trip.

    Slaves were not guests in cabins. They were packed like sardines in the holds. Use your imagination.

    • 同意: Talha
    • 回复: @Avery
  201. Black-White Relations in a nutshell.

    White boys get Knocked Out & White Girls get Knocked Up by Blacks.

    KO-KU or KoKu is future of the West.

  202. Truth 说:
    @dcite

    Wm/bf are more near the average rate of success,

    In every survey I’ve seen these are the happiest most successful marriages.

    • 回复: @Talha
  203. Corvinus 说:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “No, I caught it.”

    Only when it was pointed out to you. You completely missed it.

    “And you are a cuck.”

    That’s all you have in your verbal assault arsenal. Really pathetic.

    • 回复: @Beefcake the Mighty
  204. Avery 说:
    @Numinous

    {Slaves were not guests in cabins. They were packed like sardines in the holds. Use your imagination.}

    {No more than a couple of hundred on a trip.}

    Mayflower had 100 passengers and 30 crew.
    There would hardly be any ‘guest cabins’ on small ships of the time.
    Mayflower was about 100-feet long.

    And whether the slaves were packed like sardine or not, they had to able to move: to eat, to drink, to relieve themselves.

    So a ‘cargo’ of 200 slaves seems about right, given that regular passenger load was ~100.
    There is only so much room on a 100-foot ship.

  205. @Corvinus

    No, it was immediately clear, it wasn’t even remotely subtle, as you claimed.

    And you really are a cuck.

  206. Talha 说:
    @Truth

    嘿,真相

    Yeah – recently I came across this as well. A white husband/black wife are almost 45% less likely to divorce than white/white or any other racial combo with whites (even Asians).

    http://www.divorcesource.com/blog/interracial-marriage-and-divorce/

    That is a remarkably and significantly strong marriage combo. Good for them. Or are people going to talk about black wombs being colonized – perish the thought – heavens to mergatroid!

    和平:

    和平:

    • 同意: Truth
    • 回复: @dcite
    , @epochehusserl
    , @üeljang
  207. dcite 说:
    @Talha

    WM/BF are not going to marry unless they genuinely like each other, not just lust or “love.” The percentage is small, odd, and people leave them to be. Also, women are always happier marrying up, and men always happier when they are the “up.” Society in general is more comfortable with that arrangement. We live in a civilization created by whites (in every sense, good and bad), not by blacks. Cheap cotton may have enabled quicker development, but the United States was mainly a product of Yankee ingenuity. Everything blacks desire, however proud they may be of their color, they owe to modern civilization. Currently, the bf/wm combo is not a fetish or especially promoted in the way the wf/bm is. During slavery days, it was. The bm/wf is promoted to a creepy degree, by irresponsible people. Black women hate it, naturally. Most white women are not into it and wish to be left alone. White men are forced to pretend to go along. Even black men more often prefer their own race unless the wf act like, well, women of no virtue or self-awareness. Or awareness at all.

    Whatever happened a hundred, or 500 yrs ago, blacks today have never lived better or had more opportunities. You want to get someone to hate you bitterly, live in denial? Do them a favor. Best way to make enemies.

    • 回复: @Talha
  208. AndrewR 说:
    @Logan

    Well it’s both. Your brother in law likely shares more genes with the average German than with the average Greek.

    • 回复: @Logan
  209. Ragno 说:

    Shut up about race, McWhorter tells us, or you will be injured. Is this really the message National Review wishes to give its readers?

    What’s wrong with you?…..国际学生是可以工作的!

  210. @Truth

    We were playing kickball and relay racing in 4th grade.

    You kicked white balls and won all the races.

    • 回复: @Truth
  211. Talha 说:
    @dcite

    嘿,

    I agree here that the race is not as significant as the right formula that makes a marriage work between a husband and wife. I’ve know plenty of Blacks (at least in the Muslim community) and one of the things they have mentioned is that, in their community, it is hard to find a reliable man who is husband material. So a good reliable husband is a fairly good catch. Likewise, from what I keep hearing on these forums is that white men are pretty pissed off that too many white women are ungrateful mates.

    A grateful wife and a husband who feels appreciated is a pretty solid combo.

    Whatever happened a hundred, or 500 yrs ago, 每个人 today has never lived better or had more opportunities. I live a life of ease that many of the princes of Persia would envy; climate control, ice cream – pretty nice!

    和平:

    • 回复: @dcite
    , @Epochehusserl
  212. annamaria 说:

    “Soros-Sponsored Immigration Network Exposed In Italy:”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-16/soros-sponsored-immigration-network-exposed-italy
    “Why is there a migrant crisis in the Mediterranean? Why are NGOs involved? Because there is an extensive network of open borders activists and organizations behind it; many of them are directly funded by or cooperated with George Soros’ Open Society. Is it illegal? Not really. Political activism is an essential part of democratic societies. However, sometimes it goes too far, or the promoted causes prove to be either unrealistic or unsustainable.”

  213. Truth 说:
    @Priss Factor

    哈哈;

    Dude, for your own health and mental sanity, PLEASE find a hobby.

  214. dcite 说:
    @Talha

    Whatever happened a hundred, or 500 yrs ago, everyone today has never lived better or had more opportunities

    非常真实。

  215. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    McWhorter 在他的文章结尾处也散发出一丝威胁的意味。 避免讨论种族的另一个原因是什么? 为什么,当然是暴力威胁! 观察:

    作为一个话题,其讨论会产生伤害、愤怒和双重谈话,而在社会应该如何运作的规定方面没有抵消的好处,它应该被排除在公开讨论之外。

    McWorther says a very wise thing there. And I wonder why some pretend not to see it.

    “Truth” ‘s place is dense scientific tomes discussed by scholars among themselves, not for public knowledge and debate.
    This applies, and is being done presently, to many more topics than only IQ & Race.

    Take “love”.
    There is a definition of “love” for YouTube and Facebook (and the billions using them).
    Another one for other settings.
    One for sociobiology and psychology.
    等等。

    Keeping a society together, every society even a group of 10 people, means not hurting/triggering envy pride, vanity, illusions and delusions, past a certain point.

    The mainstream accounts on intelligence (and other traits!) & race will have to be, well, tales tailored to the psychological needs of the public — as has always been and is, again, regarding a great number of questions.

    ************

    Do you hear, for example, of mainstream psychologists telling people what the real reasons for their “giving charity”, and drives under the institution of “charity organizations”/NGOs are?

    That it is all a way of rewarding their own ego for the small contributors, and for the leaders one to acquire power and renown?
    Say truth about any social reality, and you will see the object of your truth-saying crumble apart in an instant.

    Truth is society’s nemesis.

    Why should it be different as to cognitive ability, of all things?

  216. Anonymous [AKA "Jwill"] 说:
    @Corvinus

    You may disagree with Trump, but you don’t survive in high end commercial real estate by being stupid.

    Most of our political leaders wouldn’t last a day in that world

    • 同意: anarchyst
  217. Dissident 说:
    @Priss Factor

    We keep hearing that the ‘left’ won the culture war, but no classic leftist would consider ‘gay marriage’ and ’50 gender’ degeneracy as anything leftist.

    Quite true, I believe and a point that seems mostly forgotten (by those old enough to have ever known it)/ little-known today.

    这是 文化马克思主义者 who are behind such lunacy as “Transgenderism”[1] and what you aptly call “homomania”[2]. In the piece I linked, Paul Gottfried, in explaining the origin and history of the term 文化马克思主义, acknowledges that it is problematic but presents an argument in favor of its use nonetheless.

    好歹, cultural termite, a term I picked-up several years back from a Taki Mag commentor, would certainly fit those who promote the kind of insidious, pernicious, utterly 腐蚀性的 filth that we are talking about here.

    No, Jewish Supremacists won, and they use homomania as proxy of bogus ‘progressivism’.

    Cultural Marxists and “Progressives” may be disproportionately of Jewish heritage (and even Jewish /identity/) but such individuals (and organizations) are 非常远 从实践或代表 犹太教. (So-called “Reform Judaism” or “Liberal Judaism” are not to be confused with Judaism.)

    犹太复国主义 should also not be confused with Judaism.

    ‘Leftists’ made peace with ultra-militarists.

    Many did but not all.

    笔记:
    [1] “Transgenderism”= Denial of the immutability of sex*, an 客观现实. (*”Gender” is a linguistic construct.) This insanity has reached the point of the sanctioning — and even 强制- 的 不可逆转的损害 being done to confused, innocent, young children.

    [2] “Homomania” = Promotion of all of the following:

    – The manifest falsehoods that homosexuality is (a) equivalent to heterosexuality, and, (b) without exception, both innate as well as immutable. Both are doctrinal assertions that defy much objective, often overwhelming evidence.

    – Extensive, nearly total /conflation/ of /feelings/ with /behavior/.

    – Extensive, nearly total conflation of the specific act of 肛门渗透male homosexual behavior, /per se/. (Graphic content)

    – Extensive whitewashing and downplaying– 直接以公共卫生为代价— 肛门插入在解剖学、生理学、心理、美学和社会现实方面的压倒性负面影响,这种行为 传播致命疾病 在一个速率 远远高于 比任何其他性行为。

  218. Dissident 说:
    @Corvinus

    Poorer people regardless of race have an increased likelihood to engage in violence.

    That may very well be correct. The fact remains, however, that even when socio-economic and all other factors have been accounted-for, Blacks 仍然 commit violent crimes at a rate many times higher than Whites do. The statistics are clear and overwhelming. (And, if anything, there is reason to suspect that the actual rates of Black crime are even higher than those reflected in the statistics.
    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/
    http://www.vdare.com/users/nicholas-stix )

    如果这是 不能 the case, then the violent crime rates for White Appalachia, perhaps the poorest region of the U.S., would be comparable to those for poor Black areas. But they’re not. Nowhere close.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  219. @Talha

    Why is the life expectancy for whites going down then if everybody never lived better?

    • 回复: @Talha
  220. Talha 说:
    @Epochehusserl

    嘿Epochhusserl,

    We’ve never lived better materially – there is no doubt about this. On my way to work I pass multiple houses in upper class neighborhoods that would have only been afforded by dukes or earls in the past. When you go to the store – you don’t simply buy “orange juice” or “milk” like I did as a kid, you stand there bewildered by the number of choices you have.

    What’s helping to kill us is our gluttony and inability to control our desires. It is not normal for so people to eat this much or be this lazy or walk through life without any purpose. Perhaps it is because we are so well off that human beings are malfunctioning – maybe we are not meant to be this well off.

    和平:

  221. @Talha

    I think race mixing is gross.

  222. Talha 说:

    嘿epochhusserl,

    Can’t really argue with opinions – to each his own.

    和平:

  223. üeljang 说:
    @Talha

    The determinative factor (or, shall I say, the “weakest link”) appears to be white females. They cause higher rates of divorce regardless of the partner, but especially when that partner is a non-white male. This pattern makes perfect sense if one has even a passing familiarity with members of various ethnic groups and understands that most non-white men will not let white women get away with being stupid, crazy, and/or lazy bitches just because they are white. White men are the most forgiving toward white women’s failures, while black men are the least forgiving. Asian men appear to be intermediate but closer to black men in their treatment of white women.

    The divorce rate of white male/Asian female couples in that survey is slightly higher than that of white male/white female couples, but, if that result is significant at all, I suspect that it is related to the average quality of the individuals who end up in such relationships (who tend toward the low end in my experience) rather than compatibility of those racial groups in general. Conversely, the success rate of white male/black female couples is probably so extremely high because lower quality members of those groups are less likely to start a relationship in the first place.

    • 回复: @Talha
    , @hoops
  224. Talha 说:
    @üeljang

    Hey ueljang,

    White men are the most forgiving toward white women’s failures

    Possibly. I can tell you that plenty of White men on UNZ are constantly complaining about White women every time the subject comes up. I’m married to a wonderful white woman, but she is not indicative of the majority population. It seems White women may be (out of all the various groups) most likely to be influenced by feminism which just causes issues in general.

    The rest of your points seem like valid observations, again just speaking from what I’ve read about – which is honestly not a whole lot. It would be nice if, in the case of these divorces some questions were asked as to why they were happening; financial, spousal abuse, infidelity, etc.

    On the White male/Asian female thing, I asked my wife about this as she has a Masters in Family Therapy/Counseling. She said, that when they had read up on it, there was a trend in general that when people marry outside their group, they are doing it to escape the stereotypes of their own group but they likely marry into another group based on presuppositions that they have about that one.

    So for instance, the White male assumes he is marrying an Asian female who will be more submissive in character than a normal White female. But if the Asian woman is raised in the West, she might be marrying the White male in order to escape the pressure in her culture to be submissive. Thus this may lead to a result that is mixed up based upon the intentions of both parties.

    和平:

    • 同意: Logan
    • 回复: @Logan
  225. Corvinus 说:
    @Dissident

    “That may very well be correct. The fact remains, however, that even when socio-economic and all other factors have been accounted-for, Blacks still commit violent crimes at a rate many times higher than Whites do. The statistics are clear and overwhelming.”

    Absolutely no denying that fact. But, again, is that criminality based on genetics or environment?

    “If this were not the case, then the violent crime rates for White Appalachia, perhaps the poorest region of the U.S., would be comparable to those for poor Black areas. ”

    Two different environments.

    • 回复: @Logan
  226. Logan 说:
    @AndrewR

    I’m half Swede and half German on dad’s side, with English, Dutch, Scotch-Irish and some more German on my mother’s side. But that side isn’t traceable back far.

    OTOH, my BIL is 100% German, whatever that means given the history of how often Germany was fought across by invading armies.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  227. Logan 说:
    @Corvinus

    The white Appalachian environment isn’t very different from that of poor rural blacks in the South. Or at least the physical environment isn’t very different. The cultural environment might be very different, though the family breakdown and drug use problems seem to be similar.

    Compare crime rates in those two areas and you’ve got something like apples to apples.

    According to this source, the overall crime rate in Appalachia is 2/3 the national average, and the violent crime rate is half the national average.

    http://theweek.com/articles/452321/appalachia-big-white-ghetto

    Don’t know what it is in the Black Belt, but I bet it’s a good bit higher.

  228. Logan 说:
    @Talha

    Lived for a number of years in northern NM back in the 80s. Wife became good friends with quite a few of the local “Spanish” women. NOT Mexicans, as they would insist. Their ancestors had been living in the area since before the Mayflower.

    The ladies were indifferent about who their sons might marry, but without exception they wanted their daughters to marry Anglos, as they universally believed Anglo men treated their women better.

    FWIW

    • 回复: @Talha
  229. Talha 说:
    @Logan

    嘿洛根,

    as they universally believed Anglo men treated their women better

    I don’t think there is much doubt that Anglos (and a lot of Western Europeans) put a high bar on the good treatment of women. That is a good and chivalrous thing. In some cultures domestic violence is endemic which is deplorable. Of course, some might say the Anglos have over compensated:

    和平:

  230. Logan 说:
    @iffen

    Also why Portugal was the only European country with some success at establishing colonies and such in Africa prior to the 19th century. The Portuguese had a considerable strain of African blood from the Moops and from slaves introduced in the late medieval and early modern periods and assimilated into the population.

  231. MEH 0910 说:

    John McWhorter discussing his National Review piece with Glenn Loury on Bloggingheads.tv:

    https://bloggingheads.tv/videos/46919

  232. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Svigor

    Slash and Lisa Bonet were both products of such relationships.

  233. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Logan

    Modern Germany, like modern italy, is younger than the United States.

    People in the north of Germany look a lot different than Bavarians, many of which could pass for Southern Italian or Spanish, a few, even Portuguese.

  234. hoops 说:

    Look at the state of rural, semi-rural America, Britain, Europe from the Azores to Poland.

    That white curve is two standard deviations off in the wrong direction.

  235. hoops 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Inasmuch as these largely fictive, more accurately ephemeral designations of the behaviors that inequality creates, actually happen (as opposed to exist), they are creditable to poverty and segregation and terrible peer support where the peers are unavailable or living under the fug of cognitive burden long-term poverty, exposure to violence and lead pipes – and their effects at and above the genetic level – inevitably cause. The behavior is not ‘always there’. It was not ‘always there.’

    and I’d be more circumspect about mocking black Congressmen when you vote for the party of Ben Sasse, Steve King, the Inhofe’s, Gohmert, Ron Paul, Ron Johnson, Papa Trump, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin on and on.

    Your biotruth hee-haw science is probably the result of white’s increasingly unable to cope in detail demanding environments. Everything you do has to be checked by a loud demagogue and verified by dead ancestors beneath a wall decorated with an unending array of bellicose, gaudy symbols.
    Violence would expose you to selection pressure in a disease-laden tropical environment, you fruit-cup perplexed racist innocent.

  236. hoops 说:
    @üeljang

    Genius. You justified legal sexual slavery for white women.
    Have you considered, hare-lip, that you’re on the low-end of the IQ (Irrelevant Quotient) distribution and even lower on the sexual appeal spectrum for your own reasons? Go out and capture a woman, I know you’re thinking about it. Don’t actually submit to natural selection yourself. That’s for undesirables.

  237. Almost all people agree that the most intelligent people are some from Asia (Japanese, Singapur, Taiwan, China) Jews, and whites, and the people with lowest IQ are Africans, Muslims and some Latins like Mexicans. Then can someone explain why the Muslims and Mexicans are taking over the world? Muslims will take over all Europe, and Mexicans are taking over USA and Canada.
    Muslims and Mexicans dont have people with high IQ, in fact they are almost primitives, but they are becoming the Masters of the world because Asians and whites are not using their brains to stop mass immigration and invasions. Why nobody can find a solution? Are all studies on IQ wrong ?

  238. Factorize 说:

    I do not understand why all of these comments and the article itself are so fixated on ancient history. National Review has tried to be a thought leader, though this article feels like the state of the art in psychometrics as of the 1950’s. It should be reasonably clear to all informed observers that the time for gene editing of a new extremely high g humanoid species is now rapidly approaching. Given current world populations trends a fairly large percentage of this new overlord genius species will be black. If we could all just start looking through the windshield and not the rear view mirror we could actually navigate ourselves to a better place.

  239. Anonymous [AKA "Notamayate"] 说:
    @Corvinus

    Oh, jeez, one of them.

    OK, let’s throw out everything you are 争论, and just concentrate on the IQ bell-curve difference and impulse control.

    What say you, defender 0f the 黑色 议程?

    Why should Whites have to carry the insufficient 黑色 people as a burden throughout their years of schooling? Especially considering 黑人 blatantly disrupt classes where some actually wish to, gasp, learn?

    Oh, yeah, lack of impulse control. Detroit.

  240. @jilles dykstra

    Do africans think this? WE WUZ KANGS N SHIEEEEEET

    I hope your comment is ironic, jilles

  241. Mr. XYZ 说:
    @Svigor

    PS,我想建议我们鼓励犹太人与黑人交配。 犹太人与黑人的通婚率接近于零,这是一个肮脏的犹太小秘密。 但我希望犹太人的智商可以用来将黑人的智商提高到白人的平均水平。

    Not happening. Too few Jews and too many blacks. In the US, there is something like six million Jews and forty million blacks–a ratio of almost 7 to 1 in favor of blacks. So, mass intermarriage between Jews and blacks could certainly raise the black average IQ by a couple of points, but probably not above 90.

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