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到2020年,英格兰和威尔士的死亡人数比平均水平高出14%,去年的死亡人数增加了XNUMX万XNUMX千。 我们在这里使用 国家统计局 数字,因为它给出了每周的总死亡人数,还提供了过去五年中相应的每周死亡人数的平均值作为比较。[1]从结束364的那一周开始使用五十二周,即一年中的3天rd 2020年1月至XNUMXst 2021年2020月,ONS将2015年的一周与9-XNUMX的平均值进行比较。

与之相比 九万人死亡 对于整个英国,据称是covid-19。

我们在这里提问并回答这个问题, 是什么导致了过多的死亡? 答案不确定,但将是最简单的解释。 用奥卡姆(Occam)的剃刀,我们有义务使用它。

去年第一季度,英格兰和威尔士的死亡人数为 向下:无论出于何种原因,每周总死亡率为3% 的介绍 年度平均值。 然后在23月XNUMX日春分前后rd 宣布封锁,然后突然死亡人数激增,因此成千上万的额外死亡事件开始一周又一周地发生。 这种情况一直持续到整个四月和五月,然后终于,在六月的第一周,英国人又被放行了:放心,我们可以走在大街上,公园,咖啡馆和酒吧再次开放。

锁定的那几个月 五万九千 死亡人数过多(见图)。 这是从计算截至27月5日的XNUMX周到第XNUMX周th XNUMX月为锁定期。

引起这些问题的原因是什么? 例如,可能是震惊吗? 四月平均 百分之九十 死亡人数比平时多! 那时May并没有那么糟糕,因为人们已经习惯了严峻的新现实。

在封锁之后的几周内,即在XNUMX月的第一周之后,所有死亡人数过多的情况突然消失了。 在接下来的四个月中,仍有死亡人数 完全平均 与往年相比。

该图显示了这一独特的三阶段过程。

数周后的OBNS数据
3月20日至XNUMX月XNUMX日12周138,916143,738-4,822-3%
27月5日至XNUMX月XNUMX日11周168,396109,703+58,693+54% 封锁
12月9日至XNUMX月XNUMX日18周166,392165,808+5840%

这些数字表明,造成超额死亡的原因是封锁本身而不是任何病毒。

我们在这里想起了 去年五月进行了仔细的调查 结果发现,在所有具有可靠死亡数字的国家中,其死亡率都在增加 开始 after 封锁 被强加,而不是之前。 因果之间有一个非常简单的区别:因果至上, before 效果!

在18月份实施了第二次锁定。 它没有第一次恐怖和震惊的价值,因此仅净增加了​​6%的死亡率:从4月XNUMX日结束的一周到XNUMX月XNUMX日的XNUMX周内,与季节性平均水平相比,有XNUMX多例死亡。

图:国家统计局2020年的每周数据,将每周总死亡率与前五年的估计平均值进行了比较。
图:国家统计局2020年的每周数据,将每周总死亡率与前五年的估计平均值进行了比较。

秋分之夜过后,夜晚又变得越来越长,政府又开始谈论即将到来的“黑暗的冬天”,以恐吓民众。 他们不知何故知道了“第二波”的到来,因此必须要有“第二次锁定”并且没有圣诞节。 这是我在 20播客th 十月:

他们正试图挽救另一场大恐慌,试图声称又有第二波恐慌……今年秋天,他们又开始鼓起恐惧,他们施加了如此令人恐惧的锁定水平。 我一直在想,他们给人们带来的压力很大,死亡人数是否会像上次一样再次上升?

发生了吗? 数据显示,在锁定时间前后以及之前,都出现了激增,但是这次并没有在锁定之后消失。 那是因为实际上没有任何放松。 相反,宣布了更多严厉的措施,警察采取了闻所未闻的措施阻止人们到户外散步,问他们是否有充分的理由离开家? 禁止与朋友见面,等等。这种压力进一步提高了死亡率,我们在这里尤其要注意“圣诞节周”结束了25th 45月,超额死亡率高达26%。 那不是一个快乐的圣诞节,这是一周之内又有三千五百人突然冒出(与往年相比),这大概是由于圣诞节的震惊和绝望被取消所致。 在那之后的一周,由于人们面临着黯淡的新年,这个数字仍然很高,超出了XNUMX%。

它有助于将超额死亡率表示为2020年最后几个月的总体每月平均值。因此,将每个月作为一个整体,并为每个月选择四个星期的数据:

XNUMX月(从周数开始)11月2日至XNUMX月XNUMX日。+4%
十月9月30日至XNUMX月XNUMX日+7%
十一月6月27日至XNUMX月XNUMX日+18%
十二月4月1日至XNUMX月XNUMX日+21%

在秋季和冬季,超额死亡人数(与往年相比,与以前相比)逐渐增加。 十二月的死亡人数增加了一万人。 如果以政府的观点来看,这些死亡是 造成的 CV19病毒,并且越来越严格的限制是“遏制”该病毒传播的必要对策? 一个简单的假设是,没有病毒在杀死人,而政府法令所施加的破产,孤独,孤独等压力实际上却是在杀死人。 因此,例如4日宣布了“第19层”th 英格兰大部分地区的十二月 导致 接下来一周的死亡率最高。 自从奥利弗·克伦威尔(Oliver Cromwell)时代以来就从未禁止过这种打击圣诞节的打击,产生了深远的影响,推高了死亡率指数。

总体而言,这似乎是政府的封锁政策在杀人,而不是一些新疾病。 压力,孤独,恐惧和绝望 一直在造成 死亡人数过多:加上医院的空运,尤其是老年人的空荡,以及由于“大流行”而导致的正常服务取消。 如果政府知道这一点,那就是减少人口的方案。

最近 美国疾病预防控制中心报告 同意我们在这里采用的方法,即CV19的重要性只能从总死亡率方面来理解。 于22日在约翰霍普金斯大学网站上发布nd 19月(​​但很快就删除了),它支持这样一种观点,即没有病毒会杀死人,仅是普通的流感,而其他原因造成的死亡被重新归类为CovidXNUMX:

根据新数据,美国目前在总COVID-19病例,每天新病例和死亡人数中排名第一。 霍普金斯大学应用经济学硕士学位课程的助理项目主任Genevieve Briand在其名为“ COVID-19死亡:看一下美国数据。”

从1.7月中旬到200,000月中旬,美国的总死亡人数已达到12万,其中19(占总死亡人数的19%)与COVID-19相关。 Briand没有直接查看COVID-XNUMX的死亡,而是关注了美国每个年龄组和每个死亡原因的总死亡,并使用此信息阐明了COVID-XNUMX的影响。

她解释说,只有与美国的总死亡人数进行比较,才能完全理解COVID-19对美国死亡的重要性。

在CDC网站上检索数据后,Briand编制了一张图表,表示从19月初到XNUMX月初每个年龄段的总死亡百分比,其中包括从在美国检测到COVID-XNUMX到感染率飙升之后的时期。

令人惊讶的是,在COVID-19前后,老年人的死亡人数保持不变。 由于COVID-19主要影响老年人,因此专家预计老年人群中的死亡百分比会增加。 但是,从CDC数据中看不到这种增加。 实际上,所有年龄段的死亡百分比都保持相对不变。

布莱恩德说:“我们报告的老年人中COVID-19死亡人数高于年轻人的原因仅是因为在美国,老年人每天死亡的人数要高于年轻人。”

Briand还指出,在COVID-50,000之前和之后都发生了70,000至19例死亡,这表明这种死亡数量早于COVID-19出现之前是正常的。 因此,根据Briand的说法,COVID-19不仅对老年人的死亡百分比没有影响,而且也没有增加死亡总数。

这些数据分析表明,与大多数人的假设相比,COVID-19的死亡人数并不令人震惊。 实际上,它对美国的死亡没有影响。

当Briand查看该季节的2020年数据时,与COVID-19相关的死亡人数超过了心脏病死亡人数。 这是非常不寻常的,因为心脏病一直是导致死亡的主要原因。 但是,当仔细观察死亡人数时,她注意到了一些奇怪的现象。 布赖恩德(Briand)比较了2020年至2018年这段时间内每个病因的死亡人数时,她注意到,与所有病因的预期急剧增加相比,由心脏病引起的死亡人数显着减少。 如下图所示,更令人惊讶的是,在所有其他原因下都观察到死亡的突然下降。

这种趋势与以往所有年份的模式完全相反。 有趣的是,如下表所示 ,其他原因导致的死亡总数下降几乎等于COVID-19造成的死亡总数上升。 根据Briand的说法,这表明COVID-19的死亡人数具有误导性。 Briand认为,由心脏病,呼吸系统疾病,流行性感冒和肺炎引起的死亡可以归类为COVID-19。

根据这一分析,结束正在进行的大规模杀害英国不列颠人的最佳方法是终止封锁并恢复正常生活。 作为前线医生的西蒙妮·戈德(Simone Gold)博士做得很好 解释,CV19只是“杀死”将要死亡的老人。 不能证明“具有” CV19,即测试PCR为“阳性”有助于缩短其寿命。 因此,这不是因果关系,即所谓的疾病并未“导致”他们的死亡。 这就是为什么CV-19的年龄分布与正常人群没有区别的原因。

英格兰和威尔士的平均死亡年龄为81.5岁,而“ Covid-19死亡人数”的平均年龄 是82.4年 (ONS数据)。 这告诉我们非常简单:疾病 不存在。

PCR“测试”的概念有 一直是骗人的。 所谓的PCR“测试”将核苷酸链的片段和“阳性”病例的数量相乘 取决于乘数 以及测试的人数。 永远不会出现这种病毒被“治愈”或“解决”或任何人以为政府试图做的事情(如果知道的话)的情况,以致PCR检测不再产生“阳性”检测。 没有人会向您提供证据证明测试“阳性”的人比其他人患病的频率更高。 除了恐吓民众之外,政府还有其他政策目标吗? 是要杀死病毒吗? 因为病毒还没有存活,所以这永远不可能发生。

他说:“世界卫生组织现在已经回过PCR的“测试”,(13月XNUMX日th) 它是 仅仅是诊断工具 可以提供帮助。 现在建议–

如果测试结果与临床表现不符,则应使用相同或不同的NAT技术采集新样本并重新测试。

换句话说,一次PCR测试应该 不使用 诊断Sars-Cov-2感染。 这只是一个指南!

多数PCR检测方法均被指示为诊断的辅助手段,因此,医疗保健提供者必须结合采样时间,样本类型,检测方法细节,临床观察,患者病史,任何接触者的确诊状态以及流行病学信息来考虑任何结果。

所以我们终于有了PCR 不能依靠 经过诊断测试。 这正是其发明家Kary Mullis所说的。 因此,请忘记您所听说过的有关“案件”和“共生死亡”的所有数字–无法依靠它们。

如果确实想相信与这种病毒有关的疾病,那么我们肯定会同意去年被任命为俄罗斯首席医学顾问的亚历山大·米亚斯尼科夫博士。 在一次采访中,他解释了 世界对CV19故事的反应有多么严重,而西方的死亡人数却被大大高估了。 他加了:

“这一切都被夸大了。 这是一种急性呼吸系统疾病,死亡率极低。”

因此,安大略省前首席医疗官最近 挑战了他的政府政策 说:“我们被锁定为导致死亡率低于0.2%的感染率吗?” 而且锁定没有“得到强大科学的支持”。 他在这里的意思是,对于那些测试PCR阳性的人,将有五分之一的人死亡。 需要定义此处涉及的时间,例如可能是一个月:我们都死了,并且考虑到所称CV19死亡的中位年龄为80岁左右,这很可能是正常的死亡率-尤其是如果使用PCR -测试每个入院的人。

去年十一月 康沃尔护士公开露面, 说医院病房已经空了好几个月了,据说医院病房已经满了。 她说,每当他们有流感患者时,他们就被归类为Covid:“现在,流感和Covid病例在死亡证明上被记录为“同一件事”。 。 如果疾病确实存在,那将不是必需的。 毫不奇怪,今年冬天的流感 神秘地消失了。 一名妇女在她当地的医院走来走去,拍摄了空病房的照片, 被警察逮捕 第二天进入她家。

该病毒本身不能被证明存在,这意味着我们不能将其与自从开始以来就存在的所有其他正常冠状病毒可靠地区分开来。 它有 从未孤立 让我们澄清一下。 去年四月 欧盟科学部门承认:

没有病毒可分离出定量的SARS-CoV-2 目前可用...”

几个月后,美国疾病控制中心也回响了同样的事情:

由于目前尚无定量的2019-nCoV病毒分离株,设计用于检测2019-nCoV RNA的检测方法(诊断性检测)已通过体外转录的全长RNA的特征库进行了检测……”[2]CDC'2019-新型冠状病毒实时PCR诊断面板性能特征',第39页,13.7.20。 这已从Web上清除,但请参阅BMJ对此的答复。

换句话说,没有人可以拿着试管或培养皿说“这是COVID-19”。 所谓病毒的已发布基因序列仅仅是假设的构建体。 是的,2019年XNUMX月在武汉爆发了一些疾病,是的,中国当局据称发表了该基因的基因序列,但是那又如何呢?

恐惧色情推广

政府需要您的恐惧。 它需要您的关注 但是 知道它不可能以任何方式改善您的生活。 因此,我们有一位卫生部长,他对健康或福祉一无所知:他可以告诉您,如果没有疫苗您将无法飞行,因此可以引起您的注意。 他们需要你的恐惧 在上个世纪,政府通过威胁要按下核按钮来激起您的恐惧。 那行不通了。 英国政府对恐惧色情的最新演习建议公民举止 好像他们生病了。 (“行动起来就知道了”)是的,听起来就像是如何促进健康。

它进一步促进了完全健康的人可以传播疾病(“任何人都可以传播”)的恶魔般想法。 在这里可以引用世界卫生组织专家玛丽亚·范·科霍夫博士的话:“从我们掌握的数据来看,无症状者实际上会传染给次要个体,这一点仍然很少见。 它非常罕见。 (在联合国机构日内瓦总部的新闻发布会上,世卫组织新兴疾病和人畜共患病科负责人6.6.20)。 诚然,她被迫退缩并退缩,但她的确做到了。[3]中国在五月至六月间对武汉周围一千万人口进行的一项大规模研究表明,“没有证据表明没有症状的阳性病例会传播这种疾病”: 自然 20.11.20“锁定后SARS-CoV-2核酸筛选”。

用的话来说 每日邮件,政府正在推广“使电视广告更加恐怖”(23年2021月110日)。上述恐惧色情的推广是通过美国媒体机构Omnigov签署的,该协议签署了XNUMX亿XNUMX千万 锁定广告交易 – 2月XNUMX日nd, XNUMX周 before 封锁。

记者尼尔·克拉克(Neil Clark)评论[4]尼尔·克拉克(Neil Clarke)的RT“ Covid-19逆向心理学”,28.10.20,已删除但保留在Hugo Talks视频中 在“每日电讯报”上的报道中,英国政府与美国广告公司OMD Group达成了一项价值119亿英镑的交易,敦促人们在鲍里斯·约翰逊下令锁定之前的三周内“留在家里,保持安全”。 考虑一下这意味着什么。 模因“保持家庭安全”将由比尔·盖茨在上一年的美国“ 201号赛事”中进行设计 等。 人。 恐惧阻止了理性,连贯的思想,这就是政府需要它的原因。

人们可能会忘记冬季流感可能使人衰弱,以及如何持续数周之久。 现在他们想将其称为COVID。 让我们在这里为一直在研究PCR测试测序的Dolores Cahill教授提供支持。 在爱尔兰,发现有2项PCR测试“所有的都是甲型和乙型流感,其中没有一种是SARS-COV19”。 她的小组将寻求法律行动,将检测结果以流感而不是特定的CVXNUMX的形式再次送回医院,并可能因医疗事故而起诉医生。 (Corbett报告, 23分钟),这听起来像是一种应对这种幻影病毒的有前途的方法。

“这是绝望的流行吗?” 问那个有感性的评论员 彼得·希钦斯。 训练有素的科学家不要注意情绪,而是寻找引起事物的物体,使之成为致病因素,而在这里,我们与彼得·希钦斯(Peter Hitchens)一样,认为由政府政策引起的民众消极灵魂状况正在导致死亡。 希钦斯的文章引用了医学微生物学杰出教授Sucharit Bhakdi的话:

他说,老年人有权做出努力,以保持身体健康,活跃,忙碌和健康。 但是他警告说,社会的停滞将阻止他们将其定为早亡。

社交交往和社交活动,戏剧和音乐,旅行和度假休闲,体育和爱好都有助于延长他们在地球上的停留时间。 数百万的预期寿命正在缩短。”

他的预测非常准确,他补充说:“对世界经济的可怕影响威胁着无数人的生存。 医疗保健的后果是深远的。 减少了对有需要患者的服务,取消了手术,空诊,医院工作人员减少。 所有这些都会对我们整个社会产生深远的影响。”

那就是杀人,没有其他大流行。

我们在这里关注英国,但是为了进行比较,让我们以 显示图 美国2020年的每周死亡率也显示出相同的效果。

该图显示,在封锁之后,超过正常预期水平的死亡人数超过了280k。 托管此图的网页上写道:“ 2020年XNUMX月的死亡人数激增与冠状病毒的爆发相对应。” 我在这里提出不同的看法。

By 尼克·科勒斯特伦(Nick Kollerstrom),博士,作者 怀疑论者认为英国的冠状病毒恶作剧 (被亚马逊禁止。)

说明

[1] 从结束364的那一周开始使用五十二周,即一年中的3天rd 2020年1月至XNUMXst 2021年2020月,ONS将2015年的一周与9-XNUMX的平均值进行比较。

[2] CDC'2019-新型冠状病毒实时PCR诊断面板性能特征',第39页,13.7.20。 这已从Web上清除,但请参阅BMJ。 回应它。

[3] 中国在五月至六月间对武汉周围一千万人口进行的一项大规模研究表明,“没有证据表明没有症状的阳性病例会传播这种疾病”: 自然 20.11.20“锁定后SARS-CoV-2核酸筛选”。

[4] 尼尔·克拉克(Neil Clarke)的RT“ Covid-19逆向心理学”,28.10.20,已删除但保留在 雨果会谈视频

 
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  1. Wyatt 说:

    To think, we could have spent all this time and money bombing England instead of the Middle East. At least we would have gotten rid of all this God awful propaganda. Holy shit, why does anglo government marketing always look so terrible?

    • 谢谢: Reaper
    • 回复: @SS-The Independent
    , @Herald
  2. Magic Dirt 说:

    Seems like “Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc”. The Lockdowns were declared because of the virus. The virus still spread and killed people. Therefore, the Lockdowns killed people.

    Wrong. This kind of speculative who-dunnit is really pointless now. Yes, we live in confusing times. Yes, a lot of people have made mistakes in terms of public policy. Yes, we have a lot of questions. But the writer establishes no credibility for himself to do this analysis and merely pointing at charts and numbers and saying “doesn’t this seem so to YOU?” isn’t enough anymore. We are all far beyond the point where a non-expert could reasonably conclude anything.

    与其猜测是否真的发生了任何事情,不如想想现在世界已经改变了如何生活。

  3. There might be a specific illness. The nerve damage (loss of smell, taste) and hypoxia associated with some recent flus had a unique characteristic that some labelled COVID19. The cause of these symptoms, as Dr Tom Cowan laid out, is most reasonably explained by the impact of new frequency 5G waves on the human nervous system.

    However, even given that there is some new illness (not of high consequence re mortalities) it should be clear to anyone of average intelligence that the global reaction to it has been INSANELY DISPROPORTIONATE!

    What should be clear is that the “pandemic” has been created to serve the lockdown/quarantine agenda and not vice-versa. The politics is clear.
    A PRETEXT (FINANCIAL COLLAPSE DUE TO OUR EVER-LOVING GOVERNMENTS TRYING TO SAVE US ALL FROM COVID) FOR RECASTING THE ENTIRE GLOBAL MONETARY SYSTEM is what this is CLEARLY all about. The plan has been published for all to read admitting the above, excepting that COVID was a lucky accident that brought a out this “opportunity’.

    Surely only idiots (plenty of them, admittedly) are capable of swallowing such (suicidal) rubbish.

    Kollerstrom might be totally right or, at most, slightly misstating the medical details.

    COVID is the greatest fraud of all time.

    It is a precursor to global societal collapse.

    It is intended to instigate the implementation of the greatest transfer of wealth and power in the history of earth and its peoples.

  4. @Magic Dirt

    OK, man/woman…WHAT”S ‘ speculative ‘ about ? Name it, please ( or STFU ) ! Regarding your ‘ advice ‘…” better to think about how to live now that the world has changed than to speculate…”, are you working for ” Ministry Of Truth ‘, or just retarded/mentally impaired ?! How can any NORMAL human being think/express himself like that ?! What Kafka, Huxley, Orwell and that guy who wrote ‘ Fahrenheit 451 ‘ wrote/said, is kind of ‘ sane ‘, compared to what Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab & Co. of psychopaths are thinking/saying ! BTW, for specimens like you and clones of you, I have a questions: Bill Gates is a college drop-out, born in the ‘ right family ‘ ( banksters/eugenicists ), software ‘ genius/guru’…with NO MEDICAL TRAINING ! WHY me and other people should listen to what this authoritarian sociopath/psychopath and for God sake, WHY the politicians ( ‘ our representatives ‘, what a joke ) are listening what he is saying ?! For the other readers: I was born in sixties in Eastern-Europe, under a totalitarian regime and I KNOW what’s happening now and were we are going to ! It’s a combination of Communism and Fascism ( without eliminating the usury/parasitism, like NAZI did )…a ‘ perfect NEO-FEUDAL plantation ‘ at the planetary scale ! IF the sheeple don’t wake up fast, and/or listen to trolls like the above ‘ dirt ‘, we will live Dante’s Inferno and we will envy the dead !

  5. @Wyatt

    IT’s not England, but ‘ City of London ‘. Please read ‘ The Empire of ” The City ” ‘, by E.C. Knuth…

  6. @ThereisaGod

    It’s a ‘ controlled demolition ‘ of the old parasitic system ( the usury at it’s peak ) and the ‘ foundation ‘ of a new one: the HELL on Earth ! And I am convinced that the name selected for this category of coronaviruses ( SARS-CoV-2 )…COVID-19, is really ‘ Certificate Of Vaccination ID – 19 ‘…” There are four human coronaviruses ( HCoV ) that have been around for a long time: HCoV-NL-63, HCoV-229E, HCoV-OC-43, and HC0V-HKU1. These viruses cause only a mild upper respiratory infectin and are considered to be among those viruses that cause the common cold. ” – pag.16 of ” Plandemic – Exposing the Greed, Corruption, and Fraud Behind the COVID-19 Pandemic “, by Dr. Bruce Fife. Please notice, people, that the corrupted WHO ( leaded by an impostor – Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, which does NOT have any medical training – like his sponsor, Bill Gates, and which is a member of the Marxist-Leninist Ethiopian political party ) is financed by ‘ Bill and Melinda gates Foundation ‘ and has revolving door s with BIG Pharma ! Do not trust me, just do your own research, please.

    • 同意: stevennonemaker88, Getaclue
  7. Magic Dirt 说:
    @SS-The Independent

    胡说八道的人。 哇。 从键盘上休息一下,因为这整个“互联网”的东西似乎真的让你兴奋起来。

    不,我不认为互联网上的一些博主发布关于一些图表的想法真的能证明任何事情。 你可以制作任何东西的图表。 在他的论点中没有真正的统计分析,也没有迹象表明他从其他博客以外的任何地方获得了他的信息……除了现在平庸的观察之外,他只是说“现在死的人数和以前一样”。 好的,但是如果这是真的,我无法真正知道一种或另一种方式。 这就像坐在酒吧里听醉汉告诉你法拉利的时速将达到 187 英里。 这可能是一次有趣的谈话,但在宏伟的计划中它真的毫无意义。

    • 同意: Bert, Wizard of Oz
    • 不同意: Ukraine Tiger, Georgia
    • 巨魔: Mikael_
  8. @Magic Dirt

    Canta la alta masa ( ori plimba ursul ), cum spune romanul 😉 You either a low IQ ( Forrest Gump’s clone ), or a paid troll/shill ( without the ‘ proper training ‘ ). Again, please come with facts/arguments, or GFY ! There are many charts, interviews, documentaries, etc., from respected doctors ( Andrew Kaufman, Prof. Dolores Cahill, Mercola, Dan Erickson, etc. ) which proves without doubts that it’s a SCAMdemic, or PLANdemic. ” 32 Doctors from 11 Countries Warn Against Taking the COVID-19 Vaccine “…just google it ! Pathetic creature…PS: I have a 5 years degree related to biology/chemistry at one of the Universities in one of the Eastern-European Capitals…You know what I am saying ? That I am more trained/ qualified to say something about diseases/vaccines, than Bill Gates…who promotes/sponsor them and make billions on them, while murdering the people around the World…sorry…’ reducing the population ‘…to cite the sociopath/psychopath…And much more than his henchman at WHO…the fake Doctor, war criminal ( in his Country – Ethiopia ), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. ‘ WHO Chief Tedros Adhanom Accused of Genocide ‘ – 新闻最大网

    • 回复: @Magic Dirt
    , @Johnny Rico
    , @tomo
  9. 感谢您的这篇文章,Kollerstrom 先生,它提供了非常丰富的信息。 正如你可能注意到的(我注意到了),没有太多人对这个主题感兴趣......到目前为止......他们应该是,因为它是一个阴险的东西......所谓的'大重置'('你将一无所有而快乐”——克劳斯·施瓦布,新的卡尔·马克思)。 我知道一两件事,因为我出生并生活在东欧。 显然,奥威尔式的“无知就是力量”是大多数西方/北美人的“品质”……他们一直在争论(不是这样)“白宫”里有什么小丑/木偶……或者他们的“什么”。 '(建制派)二元一党制代表曾经或正在做……我不知道你(仍然)是否住在英国,或者这里,在'奴隶之家'的土地上,但作为一名(合法)移民(超过 25 年),我可以向你保证,这个国家已经完蛋了……托马斯杰斐逊语录“如果一个国家希望在文明状态下变得无知和自由,它就会期待从未有过的东西永远不会。 ” PS:你的书很少(“地铁里的恐怖”、“英国如何发动两次世界大战”、“保罗麦卡特尼的生与死”),我很欣赏你的写作。 谢谢你,先生。

    • 同意: Lost American, Protogonus
    • 回复: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @tomo
  10. Magic Dirt 说:
    @SS-The Independent

    好的,现在我知道您的母语不是英语,因此您对在线输入评论感到非常兴奋。 如果您在母语为母语的人中具有任何可信度,我怀疑您会在网上以这样的外语失去它。 我们正在评论的故事/博客文章真的很垃圾,但我怀疑你能读懂其中的细微差别。

    你的评论真的比任何事情都更令人沮丧和精神病。 当然没有说服力。

    祝你好运,一切都好。

  11. lloyd 说: • 您的网站

    The steep decline of deaths from heart disease is very interesting. Covid-19 is not characterised as affecting the heart nearly as much as affecting the respiratory system. One possibility is the cancellation of general medical treatment especially surgery has drastically reduced mortality. In countries especially in Israel that have experienced doctors’ strikes, the mortality in hospitals has gone down dramatically. This is happening now and is balanced out with real shortening of life from Covid-19. No doctor wants to admit their profession is actually killing patients. A more serious matter is younger otherwise healthy people tested positive with Covid-19 are getting severe possibly incurable chronic illnesses. A comparative survey with past years of hospitalised non mortality illnesses during the lock downs would be interesting.

    • 同意: Californian Candidate
    • 回复: @Getaclue
  12. RoatanBill 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    Given your handle, I suspect you truly do believe in magic if you think there are any experts involved in this Covid fiasco.

    Let me put it plainly – there are no experts in virology and many other elements within the general classification of medicine. There are only people one notch above shaman. We’ve been told to expect a cure for cancer, heart disease, diabetes and many other ailments for decades from the con artists in the medical cartel. They don’t want cures, but do want therapies – life long therapies to suck as much money out of the system as possible. Now, they’ve expanded into politics to get a firmer grip on our wallets and lives.

    Did you ever think about the chronology of drug laws in America? They parallel the licensing of physicians, which created a high-income cartel, which is justified on this basis: “We don’t want the general public to be able to buy drugs. So, we need state licensing of physicians to write prescriptions.”
    It’s all about cartels. If you want to promote the creation of a high-income cartel, it’s easy. Get the state to outlaw something that most people want, and then license a group of specialists to sell it. This will also lead to the creation of an unlicensed, outlawed cartel, which also sells the item. That second cartel buys guns to defend its turf. The first cartel gets people with badges to buy guns to defend its turf.
    Cartels want above-market income on state-protected turf. This takes guns. The debate is over who gets to carry the guns legally, and who will carry them illegally.
    加里·诺斯(Gary North)

    • 谢谢: Mark G.
    • 回复: @Magic Dirt
    , @Ukraine Tiger
  13. BuelahMan 说:

    与其猜测是否真的发生了任何事情,不如想想现在世界已经改变了如何生活。

    In other words, when they tell you to believe something, you better believe it.

    Of course, none of these controlling entities would lie. Right?

    I can’t believe a thinking person would write such a stupid sentence. But congrats.

    • 回复: @Magic Dirt
  14. Magic Dirt 说:
    @RoatanBill

    I absolutely agree that medicine is mainly a billing swindle. The government pays out, and a thousand experts bloom. Obviously. Like they always say: you get more of what you subsidize.

    But that’s a whole different conversation than what’s going on with this article.

  15. Magic Dirt 说:
    @BuelahMan

    Suppose you did agree with the thesis of the article. A year ago people were pushing the “two weeks to SLOW the spread”. Ok, a year later and we are still in lockdown to slow the spread. So whatever else you might think, dying on that hill is pointless. We are being locked down and policed without any real end in sight.

    那么,一年后你将如何生活? 你对当前局势的看法似乎对推动这一切的力量没有任何影响。 但你还有未来。 接下来会发生什么?

  16. BuelahMan 说:

    When the world has changed due to a bald faced lie, over jews stealing the last bit of wealth from the dying American hulk, the last thing we need to do is stop explaining to the brainwashed how the lie works.
    It’s not “people” pushing the lie. The people are hoodwinked. The people need the truth.

    The influence is not meant for the powers.

    了解你的敌人。

  17. Greg S. 说:

    Of course there is no pandemic. Anyone who simply unplugs from the lying corporate media and applies the tiniest bit of common sense knows this. Every year, since man crawled out of the jungle until 2021, humans have become old, frail, and sick. And every year, particularly around winter in the Northern hemisphere, they die.

    What changed in 2020 was not some new super virus. What changed is that we suddenly started counting every one of those 100 year old farts who tottered off as COVID DEATHS! Scary! 1000 deaths today!

    Pick any other year in history. 1992. 2012. 1974. Count up all the cold and flu deaths and all the old people dying and you can recreate this pandemic in the comfort of your own home. Be amazed at the hundreds of deaths per day! Scary!

    But I’m a bit torn about it because a species so fucking stupid to fall for such a thing kind of deserves to be enslaved, no?

  18. Rooster10 说:

    It’s the Cycle Threshold Value! A Ct Value of 40 presents 85%-90% higher false positives than a Ct value of 30. Considering these PCR tests are given to both living and post mortem, we’ve been led to believe infection and death rates are 90% higher than actual.

    Ct values are the lynch pin. 49 out of 50 states have not had to declare the Ct value of a PCR test outside of Florida. Thus, we don’t know how much, or how often states have raised and lowered their Ct values. This gives immense power to hidden statistical corrections.

    It’s no coincidence that 1 hour after Biden was inaugurated that the World Health Organization admitted that the Ct Values they have been using were to high, and should be lowered… Also, California which has been one of the strictest enforcers of lockdowns has now lifted restrictions as cases continue to rise… coincidentally after Biden has been inaugurated.

    Folks, we’ve been lied to on a grand scale. The powers that be know this, and are now starting to remove the mask… The truth lies in the Ct Value. This is where we must focus our immediate attention.

    • 同意: Mike Tre, Theophrastus
    • 回复: @Alfred
    , @p4nc4k3s Pl34s3
  19. thordaddy 说:

    “SARS-COV2” is a “virtual virus.”

    • 回复: @Corvinus
    , @Twodees Partain
  20. Derer 说:

    Follow the money…who gains most from this pandemic? Corporate giant like Amazon and other on line sale outfits. They are more influential than the losers of this pandemic.

    • 同意: Peripatetic Itch
    • 回复: @Irish Savant
  21. There are so many dimensions of mendacity involved in this ‘pandemic’ that confusion will be all our epitaphs. Influenza deaths mysteriously cease, ‘vaccines’ are produced in record time, rats are refusing vaccination until the human trials finish, hospitals are ‘facing collapse’, (but not collapsing)as reported, in the UK at least, every winter for at least a decade etc, etc.
    Whatever it is, it stinks. Faced with a global implosion of their ‘New World Order’, born in 1989 with the Anschluss of the DDR and the triumphant return of fascist,s from their emigre infestations in the West. to the Baltics, Ukraine, Yugoslavia etc, after only two decades or so, the global overlords were bound to have several dirty alternative ‘solutions’ up their butchers’ sleeves. When ecological collapse has passed numerous ‘tipping-points’, when China (the great loss for the Empire in 1989, when the prototype Colour Revolution was neutralised in Beijing)has gotten away and is rapidly supplanting the Western ‘Gods Upon the Earth’ and when the parasitic financialised global neoliberal Moloch has gone into full self-consuming mode, the Gods Upon the Earth need a Plan B. and then on to to Z. And central to all their semi-private moanings for decades is the ‘useless eaters’ problem, those billions for whom automated, computerised, robotised, financialised neo-liberal capitalism has NO use. They represent ONLY a threat in the oligarch’s hive-mind.
    Hence the corona-virus, no doubt the result of years of ‘gain of function’ research, not in Wuhan, but in the VAST archipelago of US biowarfare research labs, Pentagon, intelligence and private, that the ‘truth-tellers’ of the fakestream media never, ever, dare to mention, or only to deny their existence as ‘Russian disinfo’ or ‘conspiracy theories’. I imagine that all these ‘new variants’ are but the hors d’ouevres before the main dish-the ‘killer app’ with greatly increased lethality. The usual suspects are already softening-up the proles with increasingly confident predictions of such a development.

    • 同意: JasonT
    • 谢谢: ivan
    • 回复: @GeeBee
  22. Dumbo 说:

    原因和结果之间有一个非常简单的区别:原因在先,在结果之前!

    This. And yet, with ZERO evidence, they keep telling us that “without the lockdown, millions more would have died”.

    Curiously, Japan didn’t do any real lockdown, and more people died in a month of suicide than of “Covid” the whole year. (And some of those suicides might have been caused by depression about the other rigid measures taken).

    They told us back in March that the “lockdown” was a temporary emergency measure supposed to last just a few weeks. And here we are, more than a year later, still basically in a global lockdown. THEY LIED, about zillions of things in this pandemic. About the “asymptomatic transmission”. LIE. About “dead bodies transmitting the disease”. LIE. About the masks. LIE. And still there are people who believe them.

    These are lies on the level of “people turned into soap by the Nazis”.

    To travel to Canada, right now, even if you’re a Canadian citizen, now you need TWO Covid tests (one to board the plane, one on arrival), then you are forced to quarantine in a prison-hotel that they choose, that you have to pay yourself (up to 2000 dollars). Even if you’re perfectly healthy. And soon this will not be enough, and they will require the vaccine.

    If you accept the Covid rules, “because a pandemic” or whatever, then you already lost. Next time they will create new authoritarian measures because of “global warming”, just as before it was for “terrorism” or “racism”, etc.

    Don’t believe the lies. Refuse the lies. Refuse the rules. Protest. Fight these fuckers.

    • 同意: JasonT, St-Germain, anarchyst
    • 回复: @xcd
  23. Sirius 说:

    看,我个人知道至少有 2 人感染了 Covid。 其中一名差点死亡,另一名住院并进一步并发症1个月。 许多人在 2 到 XNUMX 个月内失去了味觉。 有些人有轻微的症状。 对任何人来说,这听起来像是典型的流感吗? 死亡率并不是唯一需要担心的事情。

    That’s not to say I think the lockdown strategy is a good one or that even the closing or restricting of borders is. But come on folks, it doesn’t mean Covid is a hoax or nothing to worry about either.

  24. 你可以回到 Covid Terrorist Operation 的开头,发现我的评论从第一天起就非常怀疑。

    我从来没有害怕过 Covid19,但我害怕的是“他们”接下来会做什么。

    这可能只是一个测试,在他们拿出真实的东西之前收集数据; “减少人口”的一大生物武器。 Covid19 可能是吓唬民众的一种手段,这样当真实的事情发生时,人们就不会那么怀疑,因为他们至少会被灌输一定程度的思想来遵循政府的指示。

    所以,我认为我们还没有看到“大的”,它可能会在几年内缓慢而有条不紊地打击我们,或者他们可能会突然把它放在我们身上。 我们不知道。 这就是可怕的……恕我直言。

    • 同意: Robjil, Irish Savant
  25. cranc 说:

    我同意一些好的观点和一般意见,但也有一些不好的观点。 “相关性不能证明因果关系”是一个公理,它在各个方面都适用,尼克在这里对相关性提出了糟糕的论点。 瑞典在春季没有封锁,只有轻微限制,但那里的超额死亡率明显激增,尽管与英国一样,全年的全因死亡率最终并不显着。

    正如 CA Fitts 的书评中提到的,“瘟疫”的概念与集权的过程有着长期的联系。https://home.solari.com/book-review-the-edge-of-the-world-by-michael-pye/).

    世界边缘的倒数第二章是关于“瘟疫法”,从 1300 年代的黑死病开始。 派伊写道:“这种中世纪的恐怖事件产生了很长的后果。 这是我们仍然知道的焦虑、持续的社会控制和维持治安的过程的开始; 随之而来的是对穷人和无业者的官方怀疑,他们从来都不是不幸的。 我们的噩梦始于 1340 年代的噩梦。” 事实证明,瘟疫助长了中央集权的民族国家的兴起,随之而来的是对劳动力和税收的集中控制,以及现金流和资本的集中。

    关键是这是一个非常古老的故事。

    • 回复: @Robjil
  26. @Magic Dirt

    Patronising prick. The comments of @SS-Independent are exactly what I believe and know to be true and English is not my 2nd language although I also live in eastern Europe. Have you ever read Nick Kollerstrom’s books? Try it, learn something.

    • 同意: Georgia, Ann Nonny Mouse
    • 不同意: Wizard of Oz
  27. @Magic Dirt

    世界上有许多医生和科学家在 covid19 上的声明支持了本文作者所说的大部分内容。

    前辉瑞首席科学官 Mike Yeadon 博士:BigTech 亿万富翁审查的数千人之一:

    https://thewashingtonstandard.com/former-pfizer-executive-refutes-fauci-lying-media-on-covid-propaganda-its-over-curve-flattened-months-ago-no-second-wave/

    你可以在 Bitchute、Brighteon 或 Brandnewtube 上听到他的采访:
    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/mike-yeadon_hpEymb59dx13Sda.html

    https://d.tube/#!/v/breesmedia20/QmaDcuzWCbrLJGqMApM5UbXCYfDEmCyJf2c18yVh9P3yND

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/lies-damned-lies-and-health-statistics-the-deadly-danger-of-false-positives/

    • 谢谢: mark green
    • 回复: @Alfred
  28. @RoatanBill

    Summed up perfectly. I stood in line at Cairns airport for customs check at Cairns airport a few years back behind an American tourist. When asked if he had any drugs or medications he confessed to a number of items of which were then confiscated. He was informed that he would need to visit an Australian doctor for a prescription to renew. The medications would obviously have already been prescribed in a country considered 1st world. Big pharma is a joke. Here in Ukraine I can just ask a chemist for whatever I want.

    • 回复: @RoatanBill
  29. @Magic Dirt

    你知道你使用的会话技巧,你通过称它们与手头的讨论无关来避免问题吗? Beulahman 回来用它咬了你。 他特别引用了你,而不是文章。
    换句话说,“人”,你试图通过告诉我们闭嘴并服从我们的“更好的人”给我们的意见来避免手头的掩饰,明确表示你是我们的“更好的人”之一,没有确凿的证据。
    为什么我们要服从这种“新常态”,因为它实际上只是人们公开和可证明的自上而下的指示(诚实地阅读文章,而不是从您的巨魔农场员工的角度)对我们撒谎。
    你们这些人用捏造的统计数据来证明你的“科学”,当我们用统计数据证明你在说谎时,你引用了病毒学。 当病毒学家插话并说你虚张声势时,你突然开始学习社会学。 当社会学家指出你的论点中的漏洞时,你就会转向ad hominems。 当人们指责你欺凌的可悲企图时,你就是在尝试独裁主义。
    与此同时,我们对这种“病毒”的唯一模型,都是基于……计算机模型的计算机模型。
    但是我猜当你让自己亲爱的母亲孤立地腐烂时,你会觉得你在“做某事”,因为嘿,刚刚她让你感冒了?
    当数百万孤儿看到你们这些业余优生学家对待父母就像用来扫除公众异议的破布一样时,他们会有什么感觉,妈妈

    • 回复: @Beau Nydle
    , @Sam Beau
  30. John Wear 说:

    以下是有关Covid-19大流行的一些问题:

    如果口罩有效—为什么要用六英尺高的脚?

    如果六只脚正常工作,为什么要戴口罩?

    如果以上两种方法均奏效,为什么要进行锁定?

    如果以上三个条件全部起作用,为什么要使用疫苗?

    如果疫苗是安全的,为什么要使用无责任条款加以保护?

    如果疫苗是安全的,为什么不先在动物上对它进行测试,再对人类使用呢?

    If the vaccine is safe—Why did Tiffany Dover, a healthy 30-year-old nurse, faint 17 minutes after receiving the vaccine? Is Tiffany Dover dead? Why are so many other people having adverse reactions and dying from the vaccine?

    If successful vaccines have never been developed for other coronaviruses—Why should we expect a successful vaccine for this coronavirus?

    如果SARS-CoV-2存在-为什么从未隔离过它?

    如果从未分离出SARS-CoV-2,如何开发有效的疫苗?

    如果RT-PCR测试有效,为什么会有这么多假阳性?

    如果RT-PCR测试的发明者卡里·穆利斯(Kary Mullis)于2019年2月辞世,他不应该将其测试用于诊断传染病-为什么要用它来检测SARS-CoV-XNUMX?

    如果有流行病,为什么那么多空医院呢?

    如果有大量人死于SARS-CoV-2,为什么在死亡证明上有如此多的假死原因? 流感死亡被重新定性为COVID-19死亡吗?

    如果SARS-CoV-2存在,为什么给医生经济上的诱因来诊断SARS-CoV-2?

    如果官方COVID-19的叙述是有根据的,那么为什么审查员会对这一叙述提出异议?

  31. “2020 年人口调整后的超额死亡率是 1940 年以来的最高水平。高于任何战后大流行病,在和平时期仅与 1929 年(严重的流感大流行和经济崩溃)和 1847 年(欧洲北部部分地区的马铃薯疫病和饥荒)相匹配。 ”

  32. Covid is a bullshit excuse for imposing medical martial law.

    The total rate of deaths has not changed…..while heart attacks and flu and other causes of death have disappeared.

    Apparently covid cures a long list of diseases.

    Hospitals are given \$13,000 for every covid diagnosis, so when you incentive something you will surely get more of it.

    It can’t be a coincidence that Gates had a coronavirus “simulation” just a few months before the “outbreak.”

    I believe that covid is tied into The Great Reset and the New World Order.

    Covid helped to get rid of Trump via fake mail in ballots, and covid is also a means of social control.

    Covid is a sneaky way to steal freedom and liberty away from every human being on earth.

    There was no reason to “lockdown” healthy people for a virus that has a death rate of .2%.

    You don’t isolate healthy people….it has NEVER been done in all of human history.

    It is fucking INSANE.

    The fact that people have allowed this to go on gives me little hope for the human race.

    • 同意: St-Germain, FLgeezer
    • 回复: @John Wear
  33. NomadDad 说:

    Government officials, politicians, MSM CEOs etc. who keep pushing the Covid agenda need to be eliminated. Take the word “eliminated” to mean whatever you like.

  34. Anonymous[144]• 免责声明 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    Magic Dirt is a typical lowest form government Judas stooge with ad hominem attacks.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  35. Anonymous[144]• 免责声明 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    The beast tries a different tack.

  36. profnasty 说:

    The Deagle prediction of a 2/3 reduction of America’s population may be to report a deliberate policy to cull it’s herd. That is, a policy of genocide.
    Democrats have suggested this in relation to conservative values.
    Our leaders are fully aware CoVid is a fake emergency.
    Lockdowns and masks are killing people. No accident there.

  37. Dumbo 说:

    Written in 2016. The copy at the WEF site has been heavily modified in 2021, but this one is still as is. It’s their vision for the future, basically.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=3b4d56181735

    The “pandemic” is mostly in the mind. It is a mind virus. A panic virus. Lockdowns and other authoritarian measures kill much more than COVID. The vaccine kills too, dozens of people have died already.

    几年前,您接受了您不能将水壶带到飞机上的经历,并且因为“恐怖主义”而需要对老妇人进行彻底搜查。

    Now you accept getting a “test”* to prove that you’re “not sick” in order to do anything. Soon they will require a Covid vaccine to allow you to travel, work or perhaps even get out of your own home.

    *In China, they are experimenting with “anal swab tests” – https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/anal-swab-china-coronavirus/2021/01/27/cc284f56-6054-11eb-a177-7765f29a9524_story.html)

    This is life in 2021. Do you accept it? Is this the world you want for your children?

    • 谢谢: Miro23
    • 回复: @Liza
    , @Sam Beau
  38. Stonehands 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    Magic Dirt 与他的“6 条评论历史”一起出现在 UNZ,为 Big Pharma 和达沃斯重置团队提供支持。 滚蛋,乔熟人。

  39. rashomoan 说:

    Kollerstrom 先生,我在哪里可以买到这本书?

  40. @Magic Dirt

    A year ago people were pushing the “two weeks to SLOW the spread”.

    A year ago, for a few brief moments before some saggy-assed libtard decided it might be racist, the expression was “Stomp the sombrero.” This kind of gave going into lockdown a festive spirit.

    Would the world have been so willing to go to the gulag if they had said, “We have to limit your freedoms and separate you from your friends and family for the rest of your lives and subject you to medical experimentation that would make even Dr. Mengele blush with admiration of its scope and breadth” ?

    BTW, I love that granny-poster illustration … where can I get a few copies to hang around town?

  41. Dumbo 说:
    @John Wear

    如果口罩有效—为什么要用六英尺高的脚?

    如果六只脚正常工作,为什么要戴口罩?

    如果以上两种方法均奏效,为什么要进行锁定?

    如果以上三个条件全部起作用,为什么要使用疫苗?

    The current evidence after more than a year is that NONE of this works (not even the vaccine), and that despite lockdowns, masks, travel controls, etc, the cases “continue increasing”.

    Of course, it may be that they tone down the propaganda a bit after they get everyone to be vaccinated, on pain of not being allowed to work, travel or get out of their own house. Then the “pandemic will end”, provided that everyone vaccinates with an “update” every year or every six months. “The vaccine cured COVID”, they will say then. And prepare us for the “next virus”, or perhaps it will be “global warming” or a “cyber attack” next time. Let those who believe, believe it.

    • 回复: @the grand wazoo
  42. RoatanBill 说:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    Where I am, I can get practically anything over the counter and as cheap as dirt.

    In the US I had to go to the doctor once a month for a B12 shot at his outrageous fee. Here, I buy a vial of B12 and 5 hypodermic needles for about \$4 and inject myself. That’s 5 months worth of treatment for \$4. The vial and the needles are illegal for me to acquire in the US without a doctor’s prescription. The doctors make out no matter which way it goes.

    I’m stocked up on Covid meds with HCQ and Ivermectin at a few cents a tablet.

    The US medical cartel has the country by the short hairs. The insurance mafia then comes in to the rescue with monthly bills of several thousand dollars and the public just accepts it as though that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Most USians don’t travel and have no idea how badly they’re getting reamed.

  43. Alfred 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    Better to think about how to live now that the world has changed than to speculate about whether or not anything is really happening

    垃圾。

    In the UK, this was all planned long before the false flag of Dunblane in 1996 – when Blair was prime minister. This false flag allowed the confiscation of a huge number of guns.


    The Dunblane Massacre – Crime Files

    • 回复: @Alfred
    , @sb
  44. @Magic Dirt

    I find your response to this fascinating in that it is runaway ignorance. I don’t mean that as an empty insult as it may sound, it’s just such an odd avoidant and self-deluding perspective and mindset that it’s interesting and curious to me.

    At the same time that you say that things are so far along that they should not be re-examined, you also claim that “non-experts” shouldn’t even bother themselves with trying to untangle the very disaster that we have all the supposed “experts” to thank for, assuming they were all actually acting in good faith and were just all totally exposed as the incompetent frauds that they mostly are. I work with a lot of “experts” and PhDs in a lot of fields, and one thing I can tell you is apparently universally true across the spectrum from the most garbage disciplines to the rigorous ones, the only thing they’re actually experts at is being fantastically convinced that they are the nearest thing to demigods there is in their inspiration with their own ideas.

    I know that someone like you will not be convinced or persuaded by any number of facts or arguments outside of any that confirm your current perspective, so I won’t bother; but I implore you to just consider the fact that essentially all the things the “experts” have said and have been saying has been way more wrong than not, whereas all of the things all the “non-experts” have been pointing out just based on basic logic and the human nature for powerful people to expand their abuses, has been way more right than not. Do you recall that we were simply, only, merely, and reasonably like reasonable people would; going to “flatten the curve” for two weeks, what, 42 weeks ago now? You really don’t see how that may have been a ploy and just a key, and simply just avoid and rationalize for yourself in any number of ways; rather than face the hard and cold fact that … one, we got duped, they got us … and, two, the nature of the psychopathic, abusive, ruling class is to abuse and lies and manipulate and control and domineer … which is precisely what they did to us. Because what did we expect from these people, the same cast of psychopathic people who abused us into the Iraq war, for example, where in our name thousands upon thousands of people were killed and families she destroyed and communities shattered while the psychopaths only continued to rob and plunder us.

    First it was a housing “bubble”, aka fraud, then it was bailouts, aka fraud, then more bailouts, then more bailouts, then “quantitative easing” and more of it and more of it again and yet more and more and more, and then a virus that we were told would kill 20 million Americans and the economy was deleted for this supposed mega killer, but not big corporations, not the internet companies… just the small businesses.

    I could go on and on, but do you get the drift I’m on? They’re psychopathic abusers, they psychopathically abuse, because that’s what they are. It’s precisely why some people, mostly considered “right” today, are so against government, aka psychopathic abusers, because we don’t want anything to do with psychopathic abusive types that lie, chest, steal, assault, degrade, and torment us. Apparently some, mostly on what is called the “left” but also plenty on the “right”, do want that; to believe the constant and nonstop lies, manipulation, abuse, cheating, beating, killing, stealing, fraud.

    • 同意: Getaclue
    • 谢谢: Majority of One
  45. Alfred 说:
    @Rooster10

    The truth lies in the Ct Value. This is where we must focus our immediate attention.

    正确。

    I think I have barking at that particular tree for almost one year. Sadly, I have friends who are doctors with many years of experience who believe all this crap. 🙁

    • 回复: @Ugetit
    , @Rev. Spooner
  46. JasonT 说:
    @Sirius

    Look, I personally know 0 people who caught Covid, let alone was hospitalized or died. Does that sound like a pandemic to anyone?

    • 同意: Hippopotamusdrome
    • 回复: @Sirius
  47. John Wear 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    小飞象

    You are correct that it is not a coincidence that Bill Gates had a coronavirus simulation just a few months before the “outbreak.” Everything about the COVID-19 pandemic is false and insane.

  48. Biff 说:
    @RoatanBill

    I don’t always agree with your shtick, but you nailed it here:

    The insurance mafia then comes in to the rescue with monthly bills of several thousand dollars and the public just accepts it as though that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Most USians don’t travel and have no idea how badly they’re getting reamed.

    I too am an expat, and I live in S.E. Asia and my thoughts are “If all the Americans only knew what the possibilities are they would instantly revolt” but they never travel, and if they do, they carry the bubble with them.

    The problem is of course the corporate lawyers write the laws and then they get their corporate owned politicians to pass them and viola! Instant monopoly.

    消息:
    If you own a home, don’t get sick(even if you’re insured).

    • 回复: @Schuetze
  49. utu 说:

    Vox Populi, Vox Dei. Ron Unz must publish.

    Wyatt – “God awful propaganda”

    ThereisaGod – “COVID is the greatest fraud of all time”

    SS-The Independent – “we will live Dante’s Inferno and we will envy the dead!”

    RoatanBill – “there are no experts in virology and many other elements within the general classification of medicine. There are only people one notch above shaman. “

    Greg S. – “Of course there is no pandemic.”

    Rooster10 – “Considering these PCR tests are given to both living and post mortem, we’ve been led to believe infection and death rates are 90% higher than actual.”

    thordaddy – “SARS-COV2” is a “virtual virus.”

    Dumbo – “LIE. About the masks. LIE. And still there are people who believe them.”

    freedom-cat – ‘This could be just a test to collect data before they bring out the real thing; a big biological weapon for “population reduction”. ‘

    paranoid goy – “the only models we have for this ‘virus’, are all computer models, based on …computer models”

    John Wear – “If the masks work—Why the six feet? If the six feet works—Why the masks?” “If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why has it never been isolated?”

    Robert Dolan – “Covid is a bullshit excuse for imposing medical martial law.” “You don’t isolate healthy people….it has NEVER been done in all of human history.”

    NomadDad – “Government officials, politicians, MSM CEOs etc. who keep pushing the Covid agenda need to be eliminated. “

    profnasty – “Lockdowns and masks are killing people.“

    • 同意: Johnny Rico
  50. Marckus 说:

    Great point Biff. I would take it a bit further in that most Americans never leave their city or for that matter their neighbourhood. If they do it is for travel within the US. For the few who travel overseas they do bring the bubble with them. They stay in a resort where they meet the same people they decided to avoid for a week or two and never get out among the population.

    People will say they visited Viet Nam for example when in fact they stayed at the hotel and took arranged guided tours. The only Vietnamese they met were in the resort or the tour guide.

    Can you tell us your perception of the possibilities in SE Asia as you see them versus living in the Matrix. I would certainly be interested in your view from that end not only as to where you are but as to how the people there view the US

    谢谢

  51. saggy 说:

    Thank God we have idiots like Trump and Kollerstrom , author of ‘The Life and Death of Paul McCartney’ – ( https://www.amazon.com/Life-Death-Paul-McCartney-1942/dp/1517283132 ) to explain medicine to us, so that we’re not dependent on fake news and medical establishments worldwide.

  52. blaqua 说:
    @John Wear

    If the masks work—Why the six feet? For extra protection, the measures complement each other.
    If the six feet works—Why the masks? Idem
    If both of the above work—Why the lockdowns? Idem, but they must not drag on. It is time to open businesses after vaccinating many elderlies or vulnerable persons in general.
    If all three of the above work—Why the vaccine? To return to normalcy faster than without vaccines.
    If the vaccine is safe—Why protect it with a no liability clause? The vaccines authorised are tested and safe. However, their true efficacy is to be seen. I hope they are all effective!
    If the vaccine is safe—Why not test it on animals first before using it on humans? The vaccine’s aim is to immunize humans, not other animals.
    If the vaccine is safe—Why did Tiffany Dover, a healthy 30-year-old nurse, faint 17 minutes after receiving the vaccine? Is Tiffany Dover dead? Why are so many other people having adverse reactions and dying from the vaccine? Millions have been vaccinated. A tiny minority may not feel after the vaccination but that doesn’t mean, the discomfort is caused by the vaccine.

    If successful vaccines have never been developed for other coronaviruses—Why should we expect a successful vaccine for this coronavirus? The MERS and SARS pandemics ended fast, didn’t bring the world to its knees, so there was no need or much funding for vaccine development.

    If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why has it never been isolated? It has been isolated many times https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/
    https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/the-virus-that-causes-covid-19-exists-and-was-identified-and-isolated-multiple-times-by-independent-research-groups/
    If SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated—How can an effective vaccine be developed? Idem

    如果RT-PCR测试有效,为什么会有这么多假阳性? https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/ Covid-19 PCR tests are generally very accurate.

    如果有流行病,为什么那么多空医院呢?
    This doesn’t look emptyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7lHNy7NBsY

    If large numbers of people are dying from SARS-CoV-2—Why so many fake causes of death on the death certificates? Are flu deaths being recharacterized as COVID-19 deaths? A

    If the official COVID-19 narrative is defensible—Why censor people who dispute this narrative? The major problem with immature spoiled people denying the deadliness of the Wuhan virus is that they uphold the complete lack of measures, they object to every measure. They are as extreme & narrow-minded as those who preach that we should stay home around the clock. Pandemics have happened many times in the past and they are managed by use of masks, lockdowns etc. Too much paranoia and too much don’t-give-a-damn attitude lead to excess deaths and extension of lockdowns.

    • 巨魔: Schuetze, Alfred
  53. Marckus 说:
    @RoatanBill

    RB do you live in Roatan ? Is that Belize ? I thought or rather I heard it is a dangerous place to live and perhaps I am succumbing to the US Kool Ade. Can you tell me why you moved there and what living there is really like ?

    • 回复: @RoatanBill
  54. “If the government knows this, then it is a population-reduction program.”

    真的吗?

    You don’t reduce the population of 7 plus billion by eliminating less than a million souls. There’s another reason for it and it’s power grab by the usual suspects!

  55. Alfred 说:
    @freedom-cat

    前辉瑞首席科学官 Mike Yeadon 博士:只是被 BigTech 亿万富翁审查的数千人中的一个

    当某些内容被审查时,您可以非常确定它接近真相。

    坦率地说,我认为这种审查会适得其反。 谷歌、苹果、亚马逊、Facebook、微软和其他所有公司将在几年内灭绝。 所需要的只是一些战略性电源故障或光纤节点停止使用。 世界各国都开始主张自己的权利,要么收取费用,要么对其施加限制。

    谷歌威胁要因内容收费而阻止澳大利亚引发愤怒

    俄罗斯可能会禁止 Facebook、Twitter 和 YouTube 进行“审查”内容

    Amazingly, all the top Russian websites are banned in Ukraine – Yandex, VKontakte, Odnoklassniki, Sputnik etc. Since the USA controls Ukraine, it should be easy for Russia to put pressure of these websites to get Ukraine to open up.


    • 回复: @freedom-cat
  56. Liza 说:
    @RoatanBill

    Bill, I heard a medical Dr. say that oral B-12 is every bit as good as injected Vit. B-12. They make the liquid kind that you spray under your tongue as well as small tablets (methylcobalamin). Years ago, B-12 (apparently) would not work well unless it was injected. However, since you are accustomed to injections, maybe you have to continue with them?

    Amerikans like to think they are the freest country in the world. LOL. I think it was Benjamin Rush who said that we need separation of Medicine and State.

    • 回复: @RoatanBill
  57. Dumbo 说:
    @Sirius

    所以呢?

    I know 4 or 5 people who supposedly got Covid. All they got was a bad headache. One got loss of sense of smell. None of them went to the hospital. Sure, just anecdotal evidence, like yours, but I hardly see a “pandemic” in the same way that the media is portraying. Most of the people I know (even if only very brief acquaintances) did not get the disease, and those who did were fine after a week. I don’t personally know or even have heard of anyone dying of it (except for the cases told by the media). And this seems to be a common experience among most people. Others got “positive tests”, which is not the same as a disease.

    So I can’t blame people for thinking that Covid is some sort of invention, or at least an exaggeration.

    • 回复: @Sirius
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  58. Schuetze 说:
    @Biff

    Jews are totally over-represented in the Medical professions. The same applies to the legal profession, which happens to also back up the Medical professions.

    You can have representative government, or you can have jews. You cannot have both. CV-19/21 is the proof to this pudding.

    • 回复: @Lucy Lipinska
  59. @RoatanBill

    Every medical procedure costs 3 times as much as it should, and the bureaucratic paperwork involved in paying for it almost doubles that.

    • 回复: @RoatanBill
  60. St-Germain 说:

    Good work, Nick Kollerstrom. A devastating indictment of the media-enflamed “pandemic” hysteria in which all sorts of unrelated deaths, ranging from octogenarians with seasonal influenza to occasional motorcycle accidents, are deliberately blamed on a mysterious, never-isolated and therefore untestable laboratory virus of unknown provenance. It has all the earmarks of media’s standard headline-getting fear campaigns that professional newsmen have rehearsed to perfection. But this time the stakes are incalculably higher, namely the political survival of thoroughly corrupt Establishment regimes in the imperial heartland and its Western European appendages.

    Clearly in the cross-hairs of this bizarre corona orchestration is any potential populist opposition from the middle class, the traditional repository of family values and representative democracy. Hence the blatant top-down resort to rule by edict, with the lockdowns of Main Street businesses, the idling of their “deplorable” employees by the millions, curtailment of free assembly and movement and the humiliating enforcement of mask-wearing subservience.

    If this big show were a bona fide a public health emergency with real bodies piling up on the street corners awaiting removal, there would be no need for grossly distorted official death and infection statistics and no need for daily indoctrination via MSM propaganda. But it is the systematic censorship of those like yourself who factually point this out which most clearly reveals the nature of this political hoax.

    We’ve already seen that nothing positive is allowed to be said on social media about Hydroxychloroquine in connection with corona and that legacy newspapers which advertise untried Big Pharma vaccines selectively quote only establishment shills to discredit the proven success record for this cheap malaria drug as medical “misinformation”. Not even books are exempt.

    The author signed off:

    By Nick Kollerstrom, PhD, author of The Great British coronavirus Hoax, A Sceptics view (banned by Amazon.)

    Did you say Amazon, the Jeff Bezos retailer that now has a worldwide de facto monopoly on the marketing of printed books? You are certainly in good company, Nick. I even know of an elderly veteran’s otherwise innocuous Vietnam war memoir that got the same treatment, probably for mentioning how the U.S. Army once defeated a decimating falciparum malaria outbreak in his combat unit with new choloroquine pills that now also seem to work like a prophylactic against viral parasites like corona. After first listing and selling this new paperback, Amazon suddenly decided to remove it. In the land of the First Amendment, media censorship is apparently everywhere when it serves our shadowy rulers.

    • 回复: @Ugetit
  61. Marckus 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    Thanks for the great perspective and wisdom you bring to the discussion. I like your handle. You must be some kind of alchemist converting Dirt to Magic.

    Many of us have been to the circus, the elephants, the trapeze artists, the little midgets like you ! A great night out. The magicians pull rabbits out of hat. Your talent is greater. You pull shit out of your head.

    What is the nearest Western Union where you live. We can send your troll fee in US dollars or Shekels.

    Once you exhaust your inventory of bunk you can then try to exceed yourself and come back as Magic Poop.

    • 哈哈: Ugetit
  62. Liza 说:
    @Dumbo

    About the anal swab, I couldn’t get into that article from the WP but I did find this topic on 今日俄罗斯:

    https://www.rt.com/news/514056-china-anal-swabs-covid-video/

    At first I thought this was a joke. Anyway, how do you like this photo of “Anal Schwab“? LOL. “You’ll Bend Over – and You’ll Be Happy”. More LOLs.

    https://www.thinkinghousewife.com/2021/01/more-ritual-humiliation/

    • 回复: @Hippopotamusdrome
  63. John Wear 说:
    @blaqua

    Your picture shows five people under intensive care. It doesn’t prove they have the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

    In regard to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you might enjoy watching some of Andrew Kaufman’s videos on this subject. Dr. Kaufman is a medical doctor with a degree in biology from MIT.

    In regard to censorship, people in the United States have First Amendment rights. You Tube and other platforms are censoring people because the official COVID-19 narrative is false and unsupportable.

    • 同意: theMann
  64. On one hand, the virus does not exist and, on the other, it is a tool of depopulation. These are deep waters. My guess is that, being a federally designed depopulation program, it just doesn’t work.

    While this is all good fun, note that, if there actually is a dangerous virus, encouraging people to ignore it will lead to many deaths. Cockamamie theories about the Grassy Knoll and Roswell hurt nobody. This one can.

  65. Patric 说:

    The whole covid ‘story’ is and has been maintained by PCR tests from the beginning. This video sheds a lot of light on how that actually got going, how the so called “Corman-Drosten” test got into pole position and once that fraud was allowed most of the rest followed. In that way the Covid hoax is primarily a bureaucratic one and is sustained on that level, nothing to do with real disease

  66. HallParvey 说:
    @RoatanBill

    The US medical cartel has the country by the short hairs. The insurance mafia then comes in to the rescue with monthly bills of several thousand dollars and the public just accepts it as though that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Most USians don’t travel and have no idea how badly they’re getting reamed.

    It’s all interlinked. The government employees who, to protect the citizenry, in accordance with laws passed by elected lawyers, regulate and determine who will be allowed to provide entry into various professions. The swamp.

    Through the university system, law schools provide lawyers, and future elected law makers. Med schools provide doctors. Bankers are graduated who control money flow. Insurance companies, controlled by lawyers, regulate, in accordance with medicare guidelines, money flow to doctors and hospitals.

    Medicare which determines the amounts to be paid by insurance companies. Usual and customary. Drug supply intermediaries who make sure that all medication costs hundreds of times what it might should they not exist. (Compare the price of aspirin to other pain relievers.). Journalism schools provide us with well regulated, agreeable, acceptable talking heads. People who can be relied on to report only what they are told to.

    All of these, plus others, provide the country with a controlling elite, who share in the wealth created by regulating the flow of death delaying medicines. An illustration of the effect of medical provision regulation, coupled with control of the media, can be seen by the desperation generated in the overall citizenry caused by lack of Covid virus protective medication.

    Lockdowns which amount to complete movement restriction. So much for land of the free. Masks. No holiday gatherings. Shuttered churches. Panic!!!!!

    See what the elites can do with control of the propaganda channels. Elect a senile old white guy to the presidency. If it hadn’t been Covid, it would have been something else. Never let an opportunity go to waste.

    Not to worry. Now that Trump is gone, stories about Covid will begin to be replaced by new stories about the latest Syrian affront to democracy, supported by those evil Russians.

    And 95 year old people will still die from the effects of Covid. It ain’t going away. The flu didn’t.

    • 同意: RoatanBill, John Wear, acementhead
  67. Anon[437]• 免责声明 说:
    @blaqua

    Why classify every death 28 days (60 days in the UK) following a positive PCR as a Covid 19 death? You wonder why people are sceptical.

  68. RoatanBill 说:
    @Marckus

    This is off topic, so I’ll just provide an overview.

    Roatan island is part of Honduras. The island was British years ago and English is widely spoken. After 16 years, the only Spanish I speak is Cervesa por favorUna mas por favor.

    The island has some significant crime, like murder, but so does every other place I know of. Most crime is property theft. There are thousands of US and Canadians living on the island. It has an international airport (American, United, Delta, Canadian Carriers), two cruise ship docks, and one world class golf course. The only fast food a USian would recognize are two Pizza Inns and two Bojangles. There’s one Ace Hardware and several much better and larger centers from the mainland, much like a shrunken down Loews. Everything from the US comes in via Hyde Shipping out of Miami. Roatan is the above water projection of the 2nd largest barrier reef in the world, so is a fabulous diving destination. It has the best sand beach I’ve ever seen and I’ve been all over the Caribbean and the Tahitian islands.

    There are slums and million dollar homes in gated communities, just like everywhere else. Taxes are collected primarily via a 15% sales tax. Income tax exists but is offset by the sales tax so it’s minimal. Property taxes don’t amount to much. There are two hospitals. Most drugs are over the counter and cheap.

    The US dollar and Honduran Lempira are the accepted currency along with the usual credit cards.

    • 谢谢: TKK
  69. RoatanBill 说:
    @Liza

    I’m aware of the various types and forms. I choose the injections for convenience and inexpensive availability. The other forms aren’t as readily available so I used to order them from Amazon, but shipping even a vitamin bottle here is a minimum of \$20 and comes via ship once a week or every 2 weeks depending on season. I don’t like meds/vitamins kept in a hot shipping container for degradation reasons.

    谢谢你的关心。

    • 谢谢: Liza
  70. Ugetit 说:
    @Alfred

    Sadly, I have friends who are doctors with many years of experience who believe all this crap.

    I know of a pulmonary doc and an infectious disease doc plus a few others and they’re not the type to hype it for profit. Yet aside from a few close folks it seems that 每个人 I know believes the standard story. To me, it was an obvious fraud from the start.

  71. RoatanBill 说:
    @George F. Held

    In a Texas summer, my car A/C failed but I kept visiting clients all day. Late that evening I ended up in the emergency room with dehydration. Bill was \$2,000 out of pocket for a bag of saline and 10 minutes of the doctors time. As a self employed business owner my monthly health insurance was astronomical and that with an annual \$5,000 deductible each for my wife and myself.

    On the island, while working steel, I was careless and cut my arm with an angle grinder. Very ugly wound. We have no health insurance here and you’ll understand why. One surgeon to look at the severity and determine what needed to be done, one doctor to stitch me up, two nurses to help him, bottles of disinfectant, lots of gauze, etc and a total in hospital time of about 2 hours. There was no waiting when I presented myself.

    My bill was the equivalent of US 50 cents. I’m not making this up. 50 cents. I donated US \$100.

    就成本而言,这两种情况都是荒谬的。 在美国,即使是轻微的疾病也要花费一大笔钱。 在这里,对于癌症、心脏病等重大问题,他们也想要一些大笔钱,但与美国的利率相比,他们需要零花钱。

    • 回复: @Lost American
  72. @Schuetze

    One thing I don’t understand is that Jews- a people allegedly equipped with high IQ – seem not being afraid that their anti-Whiteness backfires on them. Are all of them rich enough to live in gated and guarded mansions? I know that is not the case in Israel, as you find even s.c. survivors in rather poor circumstances….And we have some that are not wealthy in Sweden as well. Is it possible that many Jews are “minding their business” to such an extent that they have no knowledge about their elites doings? I actually have a Jewish acquaintance that I find totally unaware of the Jewish dominance when it comes to agitation against Whites.

    • 同意: Robert Dolan
  73. It is very suspicious that China had those dramatic scenes in the beginning that made it look as if people were dropping dead and bodies were piling up in the streets……

    that hysteria was successfully transferred throughout the western world and we went into “lockdowns”
    (a prison term never before used in regards to disease)

    then China very quickly went back to normal

    while we have been under martial law for a year and our economy is in shambles and RUIN.

    这没东西看!

  74. GeeBee 说:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    confusion will be all our epitaphs

    You’re quoting Jews! (Or at least I believe I’m right in saying that both Bob Fripp and Peter Sinfield were bereft of a prepuce. Ian Macdonald and the Giles’s were good Dorset lads and fully intact.)

    • 回复: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @Dnought
  75. Ugetit 说:
    @St-Germain

    In the land of the First Amendment, media censorship is apparently everywhere when it serves our shadowy rulers.

    This should not come as a surprise since those who opposed the constitution were subjected to various underhanded forms of blackouts as well, with many rags refusing to publish their arguments against the abomination to refusing to deliver opposition mail.

    In such a titanic struggle[over the constitution] especially for the Antifederalists whose constituency was scattered, poor, and uneducated, rapid dissemination of information and agitation throughout the country was absolutely essential. This vulnerability was viciously exploited by the Federalists, who used their control of the expensive U.S. postal monopoly to delay greatly the mainly Antifederal newspapers as well as letters to and from leading Antifederalists. The postmasters were mainly Federalists: Postmaster General Ebenezer Hazard was a Federalist, and the New York Postmaster Sebastian Bauman was a close friend of Hamilton. And the Federalist Pennsylvania Postmaster openly refused to mail an important address by the Antifederalists at the Pennsylvania convention. Thus, while letters between nationalists of Virginia and New York regularly took six to fourteen days to arrive, mail between Antifederalist leaders in the two states often took six to ten weeks to get through. The handful of Antifederalist papers often failed to arrive at all, particularly in New England, New York, and Pennsylvania, and those that did come through had particular items cut out by the postal authorities.2 Even George Washington was outraged at the wholesale blocking of Antifederalist mail

    – Murray N. Rothbard, Conceived in Liberty, Volume 5: The New Republic: 1784–1791, p214.
    https://cdn.mises.org/Conceived%20in%20Liberty%20Book%20Five.pdf

  76. Whitewolf 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    We are all far beyond the point where a non-expert could reasonably conclude anything.

    A non expert can easily conclude that lockdowns don’t work to contain covid-1984. Sweden has shown that lockdowns aren’t needed to get covid-1984 under control. Since that is obvious to everyone, even the clowns running most countries, then it’s safe to assume lockdowns are about getting people under control not the virus.

    • 回复: @Nancy
  77. Dumbo 说:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    While this is all good fun, note that, if there actually is a dangerous virus, encouraging people to ignore it will lead to many deaths.

    No it won’t. Enough with the BULLSHIT. They keep panicking people with hysterical notions that “billions will die” if we don’t lock people in their houses or force them to wear masks, or do this or that.

    But where is the freaking evidence of that?

    People are not as stupid as government thinks. If there were indeed “millions of people dying”, people would naturally be more careful and stay home for fear of their lives or that of their loved ones.

    But it is not what we see. If you ignore the media and just look around you, you don’t see people dying. You see some people who “tested positive” and perhaps has a flu-like disease for a few days. You hear of some old people dying or having complications, but so far I haven’t heard of anyone who had that among all my acquaintances in different countries.

    Also, since “asymptomatic transmission” is a myth on the level of “Nazis turned people into soap” (you can check several studies, including a CHINESE one), there is no point in locking up people with no visible symptoms, even if the “virus” is “dangerous”. It might be dangerous, but it’s not magic. It can’t be transmitted by healthy asymptomatic people. Unless what’s being tested is something else…

    The “pandemic panic” is almost-entirely created by the media and the medical establishment.

    The lockdown, however, now there is a LOT of evidence that it is harmful, for the economy, for people’s mental health, and for their own lives.

    I thought Fred was a libertarian? Ron Paul at least makes some sense.

  78. Ugetit 说:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    On one hand, the virus does not exist and, on the other, it is a tool of depopulation.

    What virus doesn’t exist? There are apparently several coronaviruses and they’ve existed for some time. What doesn’t exist is a pandemic. Another thing that doesn’t exist is a rational, non-political, response to the so called covid-19 virus.

    Anyway, the virus probably is not a direct tool of depopulation, but the vaccine and other related dumbass responses may be the beginning of such a program, but no use arguing with true believers of cockamamie theories of wacko responses to mild viruses.

    Now, go read “Chicken Little.” Run, run!

    https://www.worldstory.net/en/stories/chicken_little.html

    • 回复: @theMann
    , @Bill Jones
  79. Alfred 说:
    @Alfred

    Just what I have been waiting for. 🙁

    Anyone who cannot see the connection between this virus scam and more government repression is not paying attention.

    Here It Is – The Bill To Destroy Gun Ownership

    • 同意: Miro23
    • 回复: @the grand wazoo
    , @Miro23
  80. GMC 说:
    @John Wear

    Hoffman LaRoche bought the patents on the PCR tests for 300 mill and since have made over 2 billion on them- Kari Mullis died of pneumonia – in August – — in August, a atypical month for Pneumonia.

    • 回复: @John Wear
  81. Robjil 说:
    @cranc

    “瘟疫”的概念与集权的过程有着长期的联系

    1300 年代的波兰王国并没有受到这场瘟疫的影响。
    https://www.medievalists.net/2019/08/black-death-did-not-reach-poland-according-to-peat-bog-evidence/

    泥炭沼泽分析? 这听起来并不吸引人。 但对于科学家来说,沼泽研究是关于各种历史事件知识的金矿。 例如,最近,他们证实了 14 世纪中叶的黑死病疫情并未波及波兰; 在此期间,农业生产保持稳定水平。

  82. Reaper 说:

    The article is an analysis on what many of us already suspected/ believe.

    As for the matter how to deal with it:
    Outside the reach of big tech, lockdown political parties/ government, and mainstream media there are already some websites dedicated to lockdown/ covid resistance.
    Some of those onion sites are quite amateur, but in the right direction.
    Contributors always welcome all materials can be improved (like translate it into other languages), or as the best way set up your own sites preferably avoid the indexing in torch, haystack, candle, etc… and use just the links.

    To provide resources/ advise for people, like:
    – prepper materials for urban survival
    – how to travel between lockdown areas
    – how to avoid patrols/ blind drones/ cctv cameras
    – how to forge documents/ where to get them
    – get food/ other stuff during lockdown, without vaccination/ health pass
    – organise food network with shop employees, delivery drivers, farmers
    – how to set up secret shops/ black market vendor businesses
    – how to deliver stuff
    – how to sabotage patrol vehicles with common materials like sugar, sand, and basic equipment
    – how to set up routes/ backup shelters underground in sewers, metros, service tunnels
    – backup/ storage positions in abadoned apartments, factories, dock boxes
    – tactics agains riot police
    – some basic urban warfare (guerilla/ partisan) tactics
    等等......

    What is on the clearnet is mostly from ww2: advise for partisans in the western front which originally come from US/ UK agencies as education material/ advises how to fight the German occupation. There are Soviet as well.
    But in many cases both outdated for this modern world.

  83. theMann 说:
    @Ugetit

    In all the relentless jibber jabber and propaganda about the “pandemic” no one, least of all Medical “Experts”, has ever mentioned the other P word.

    You know, PREVENTION!.

    I was telling people back in March (browse my comments) eat an orange, get some sun, go lie down. I wasn’t being a smart ass about this: if you dont want a flu like illness, dont get one. These viruses are all malnutrition vectors, B1, C, D. Abd this has been known forever.

    The “pandemic” is three things:

    Deliberate obliteration of a formerly free Economy.

    Determination of the percentage of people who will crawl on bellies in abject fear of an obvious lie.

    The furtherance of every Police State aim under cover of “Medical Emergency “.

    But it isn’t an illness in any conventional sense. Otherwise it would be amenable to prevention and treatnents.

    • 同意: Ugetit
  84. @Lucy Lipinska

    You bring up a good point…..most of the “little” jews are just ordinary joes and they have no idea what organized jewry is doing.

    The sad fact is that the “BIG” jews running the anti-white program do so without the authorization of the entire jewish community.

    The BIG jews stupidly and recklessly support an agenda they believe is “good for the jews” while this agenda spells the destruction of Christendom.

    As you mentioned, as the anti-white destruction intensifies it wakes people up to the jewish question
    as it becomes obvious that the people pushing the anti-white agenda always happen to be…..jewish.

    You’re right that most jews are minding their own business and they have no idea what the ADL and the neocons are up to.

    Sadly, when the blowback comes, the entire jewish community will be blamed for the destruction.

    You would think the big jews would consider that their behavior endangers the whole jewish community, but they do not seem to be able to think that far.

    • 回复: @Schuetze
  85. JimDandy 说:
    @Sirius

    Do you, by chance, live in a nursing home? I’ve known about a dozen people who were feeling various degrees of lousy in a flu-ish kind of way, so they took the Covid test and it came back positive. Does that prove that all/any of their symptoms were caused by Covid? 100 percent of those people were feeling good as new in a couple weeks. Does that sound like a typical flu to you? Yes, it does. Covid can exist and so can the Covid hoax.

  86. voicum 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    That’s all you’ve got DIRT? Yiu just proved you’re low IQ. Stay safe.

  87. John Wear 说:
    @GMC

    Kary Mullis’s death is very suspicious. If Mullis were alive, he would tell everyone that his RT-PCR test should not be used to diagnose infectious diseases.

    • 同意: Alfred, GMC
    • 回复: @Nancy
  88. thotmonger 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    This report just in from Sweden examines their mortality rates in a number of different ways and comes up with several possibly explanations, like the dry tinder effect from anomalously low deaths in 2019. The upshot is encouraging except the government overreactions which the author considers to be causing greater long term harm.

    https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2021/01/15/final-report-on-swedish-mortality-2020-anno-covid/

  89. anon[318]• 免责声明 说:

    Dear Mr Nicholas Kollerstrom, great article!
    In 1976, a professor of economic history at the University of California, Berkeley published an essay outlining the fundamental laws of a force he perceived as humanity’s greatest existential threat: Stupidity.

    Stupid people, Carlo M. Cipolla explained, share several identifying traits: they are abundant, they are irrational, and they cause problems for others without apparent benefit to themselves, thereby lowering society’s total well-being. There are no defenses against stupidity, argued the Italian-born professor, who died in 2000. The only way a society can avoid being crushed by the burden of its idiots is if the non-stupid work even harder to offset the losses of their stupid brethren.

    Thank you for your work over the years. The new generation can not find your books, the stupid brethren have banned them.
    Is there a website where we can purchase the pdf versions?

    • 回复: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  90. Anonymous[369]• 免责声明 说:
    @Sirius

    看,我个人知道至少有 2 人感染了 Covid。 其中一名差点死亡,另一名住院并进一步并发症1个月。 许多人在 2 到 XNUMX 个月内失去了味觉。 有些人有轻微的症状。 对任何人来说,这听起来像是典型的流感吗? 死亡率并不是唯一需要担心的事情。

    Mass psychogenic illness. There are many cases where it was caused by a simple rumor. Imagine a situation where the local/state/federal government is running a 24/7 panic psyops, shutting down social-interaction businesses (restaurants, bars, gyms), making people quarantine and wear face coverings (intended to increase isolation and paranoia*)??

    *

    Raj Persaud, M.D. and Peter Bruggen, M.D., The Psychology of Wearing a Face Mask

    …We suffer a strong psychological tendency to see faces, and facial features, in otherwise random features around us. Our perceptual system shapes what we perceive, and often “fills in” unclear scenes, revealing something that may not actually be there…

    Filling in gaps in what you know about others, but doing so under background conditions where the brain projects threat onto the outside world, is now linked to serious mental illness. Diagnoses such as borderline personality disorder, paranoid schizophrenia, or severe autism, involve deficits in processing other people’s facial expressions. Paranoia has been linked to a tendency to make negative assumptions about relatively neutral facial expressions.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/slightly-blighty/202005/the-psychology-wearing-face-mask

    • 回复: @Hippopotamusdrome
  91. Anon[912]• 免责声明 说:

    Locked down people get no sunlight and therefore no vitamin D. Apparently if you have covid a lack of vitamin D can really give the virus a opening against your immune system.

    80% of people in a Thai study that required hospitalization were deficient in Vitamin D. Not only that, but it seems that having enough D in your system lessens the chances you develop covid even when exposed to it according to a radio talk show host in my area, Phil Valentine, who delved into the Thai study on his show (he had read the study……..he’s a pretty smart guy).

    India has only 111 deaths per million so far, and the USA has over 1,000 per million. India has lots of sunlight and they use hydroxychloroquine. The quinine in hydroxychloroquine might have a positive effect. There is a small amount of quinine in seltzer water.

    Get some sunlight every day, take zinc. Take ginger (natural antiviral). Might help fight it off if you get it.

    • 谢谢: Mark G.
    • 回复: @Liza
  92. @Rooster10

    Large reference labs may have the testing equipment that can use adjusted Ct values, but most tests are being performed at smaller hospitals and clinics on smaller analyzers that use pre-made cartridges. Those hospitals and testing centers are not able to adjust those Ct values. Where I work, we run a Cephid GeneX system and cannot adjust Ct values. It cycles 35-45 times before giving a result. We have no choice but to run with what is available.

    • 回复: @Rooster10
  93. @Alfred

    我正在让你列出的所有网站/亿万富翁永远离开我的生活。 而且,男孩,这需要一段时间。 我有 2 个 hotmail 帐户花了大约一个星期才清理干净,但我今天要关闭它们。 我在使用 Twitter 时遇到了问题; 一直删除acct但有评论的冲动所以重新打开了几次,但这次我坚持关闭它。

    我停止了在亚马逊的所有购买,一旦我完成了我购买的 Kindle 书籍,它们也将永久关闭。

    我正在考虑获得一个不同的操作系统,比如 Ubuntu/Linux,并且会在最后这样做以使比尔盖茨从我的个人数据中消失。

    我和这些亿万富翁技术人员一起经历过,如果没有他们的钱,他们会成为历史上鲜为人知的丑陋小怪人,很少有人会喜欢......

    • 同意: MrVoid
    • 谢谢: Alfred, Ugetit
  94. Liza 说:
    @Anon

    Years ago, I used to be prone to the flu and when I got it, it was pretty bad. I learned down the line that dosing myself mightily with hot ginger tea worked well when I first felt symptoms and had to go to bed. Within a few hours, I felt normal and healthy again.

  95. Schuetze 说:
    @Lucy Lipinska

    These “good jews” are guilty of willful ignorance. They have jewish power at their back and they are immune from charges of “anti-semistism”. That already that is equivalent to “privilege”.

    If they ever get blowback for saying anything they do that cannot be construed as being “good for the jews”, then their rabbi’s will get after them, and this would be all the confirmation that any honest person would need that there is a malevolent jewish cabal. Yet this never seems to affect them.

    This is why I believe that the only way any jew can have any claim to being “good” is by actively being against jewish power. One good way would be to actively support Palestine and BDS. How many “good” jews do you know that support BDS in Sweden, Lucy? My guess is that you cannot name a single one.

    One poster child for a “good jew” is Ron Unz. How many jews are there out there that actively support Ron?

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  96. Schuetze 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    ““BIG” jews running the anti-white program do so without the authorization of the entire jewish community.”

    ALL jews benefit from Jewish Privilege, big and small. They will never be fired or banned from media for “anti-semitism”. That alone is privilege.

    But what really sets them apart is Jewish discrimination against European’s. How many “good jews” are out there protesting against overrepresentation of jews in all aspects of American life? Hint: none.

    当一个犹太人通过部落偏好找到工作时,他多久向自己或世界承认这是由于他的种族造成的? 提示:从不。

    The entire jewish community has an unwritten law: “Is it good for the jews”. Hiring another jew is one aspect of this unwritten law. “The entire jewish community” will never acknowledge Jewish Privilege or Jewish power, let alone fight against it. They are ALL part of this cancer, everyone of them unless they are actively working against it.

    Here is my short list of “good” north American jews”:
    罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)
    Brother Nathaneal
    亨利·马科(Henry Makow)
    詹姆斯·佩洛夫(James Perloff)

    The rest of them are only worried about “what is good for the jews” and stealing more shekels from goyim. Some of them, like Ben Shapiro, will pay lip service to free speech. Their lies become apparent as soon as you ask them about the goy’s right to deny the holohoax, discuss the protocols or talk about blood sacrifice..

    • 同意: Alfred
  97. Sirius 说:
    @Dumbo

    Invention: I don’t think so. An exaggeration: most likely.

    There is no doubt to me that the whole thing has been handled badly. But it’s definitely not fake as so many on this forum keep insisting.

    • 同意: L.K
  98. Sirius 说:
    @JasonT

    A pandemic doesn’t have to have a high mortality rate to be considered a pandemic.

    • 不同意: Robert Dolan
    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
    , @Fox
  99. @John Wear

    I add: Why call a sub-epidemic a “pandemic”? And why hold P.R. of China culpable when they are the state with the most to lose? The state with the most to gain, U.S.A., almost simultaneously sent 300 military people to the Wuhan district and convened a modeling/rehearsal exercise for management of a “pandemic.” This medical martial law has made possible the coup we are undergoing, and stands to make possible the finalization of the comprehensive police-surveillance state and the seizure of all wealth by the architects and activists of “the New World Order.” This false medical crisis is the linchpin of the whole catastrophic crushing of historical civilization. The wonder of it is that there prove to be enough supposedly educated people who subordinate their critical faculties to the propaganda media.

    • 同意: John Wear
  100. @RoatanBill

    Doctor’s office visit here in Mexico: 50 pesos = 3 USD

  101. @Schuetze

    I think it’s only fair to recognize that the ruling elite is a separate entity no matter which group we are talking about.

    All white people are blamed for slavery….when only 2% of the population owned slaves. Slavery was actually so rare that most people didn’t even know anyone that owned slaves. (And of course the slaves were brought here on jewish merchant ships) Yet….organized jewry claims that all whites are to blame for slavery, which is blood libel against our people.

    Likewise, it is the ruling elite of organized jewry that pushes anti-white propaganda, and not your jewish dentist, yet some of us blame ALL jews for the harmful effects of organized jewry.

    It’s true that there are not very many pro-white jews….only a handful in the public space. Still, it is unfair to blame ALL jewish people for the misdeeds of the few. The ruling jewish elite probably does not comprise more than a few thousand individuals in the ADL, SPLC, The FED, the NYT, WAPO, Google, Twitter, FB, the FBI/CIA, Congress, Senate, Supreme Court, university system, media elite, billionaires, CFR, etc.

    However, the jewish ruling elite has access to a nearly endless supply of funding that enables them to purchase allies by the thousands, so that their power expands exponentially as they bribe a proxy army of shabbos goy shitheads and sellouts.

    So the root of the problem is actually money. They use money as a form of manipulation and control.

    • 不同意: Schuetze
  102. Sirius 说:
    @RoatanBill

    The US has the biggest scam of a medical system in the world. Many so-called “third world” countries have better health care for the cost.

  103. @Schuetze

    Thank you for articulating my thoughts perfectly.

    How many US Jews object to Israel?

    • 回复: @Schuetze
  104. @saggy

    Thank God we have idiots like Trump and Kollerstrom

    Take your sarcasm and stick it up your you-know-what. Nick Kollerstrom is a meticulous and original researcher on a variety of very pertinent topics. Here is the beginning of his exposé on the trial of Thomas Mair in the alleged murder of alleged British MP Jo Cox. You know, the murder that almost reversed the Brexit vote:

    The judgment on 23rd November, 7th day of the trial, sentenced Mair to life-imprisonment.

    This trial would have made judges of old turn in their graves. What, no defence? Not a word from the accused, not even as to whether he was guilty or not? No sign of any dead body? Was it hacked to death and no drop of blood to be seen? I heard the jury being told that they could not be shown photos of the actual corpse, because it might upset them, and instead would only be shown computer-generated images.

    ‘Habeus corpus,’ a most basic concept of British justice, translates as, ‘have you got the body?’ That is necessary for a murder trial to proceed. In this case we have seen no pictures of Jo Cox’s dead body, nor any credible-looking death certificate from a coroner or receipt from Leeds General Infirmary of receipt of the body, somewhere around 1.40 on 16.6.16. There is no body, there is no blood.

    Trial and verdict via media had totally prejudged the case before the court even opened.

    https://terroronthetube.co.uk/related-articles/a-no-body-murder-trial/

    • 回复: @Tom Rogers
  105. augusto 说:

    I dont have a picture of the whole pandemic status here, and in many parts of the world.
    But I want to know, and I challenge you, Nick Kollesomething , if you send , OR HAVE ACCOMPANIED your parents WITHOUT any masks, to the markets, pubs, public crowds, meetings where many people flock together. In the last 10 months.
    And I challenge you to do so, please include name, city, street and photos of all your mom, dad, children, uncles and aunts, plus cousings and over 50 friends alike, all cheering in public places, packed up with no mask mobs.
    With due proof of the dates where it occurs, between March 2020 and Jan. 2021. In the UK , or US.
    As I have duly learned in English classes, YOUR KIND REPLY WILL BE MUCH APPRECIATED.

    • 回复: @By-tor
    , @flashlight joe
  106. 如果 :

    (1) there really is a novel corona virus;
    (2) the novel corona virus can kill;
    (3) herd immunity is achieved when 70% of the population is infected:
    (3) that the CDC estimates of the age-dependency of Covid19 mortality 是正确的。

    这告诉我们什么?

    That without vaccines or control measures, herd immunity would have been attained in the US with an under-50 death toll of around 230 thousand, which would have been sad, but not as bad as almost one million expected excess deaths over the next 15 years due to Covid-related lockdowns.

    So the best policy, it appears, would have been to do nothing that interfered with the normal lives of the majority of the population.

    Those with conditions making them susceptible to severe Covid illness plus working adults over 50 could have been given the option of unemployment pay pending the availability of a vaccine.

    As for the very old, they should have been protected from psychopaths and lunatics in government who deliberately introduced Covid19-infected patients into care homes, thereby accounting for most of the recorded Covid19 deaths.

    As it is, power mad loons such as Justin Trudeau are striving to make life even more intolerable for all and sundry.

    • 同意: Alfred
    • 回复: @anon
  107. @Magic Dirt

    “We are far beyond the point that a non-expert could conclude anything.” Well now that depends. Here in California where I live, in Los Angeles county that contains around 13plus million people has a Cov-19 team of NON-EXPERTS.. We have a social justice warrior pretending to be a doctor that runs the Cov 19 task force and a California governor who believes he is a dictator. These people have not the slightest idea of what they are doing and have driven millions to despair and bankruptcy from continual lockdowns.. Of course, everything is determined politically not medically, by these leftist hacks. There is very little in the way of science that is followed. This is true for the democratic run states and California in particular.

    When president Donald Trump merely suggested that hydroxychloroquine was being effectively used to prevent more serious progression of the virus damage, Democrats turned the whole thing into a political issue and prevented pharmacies from carrying this compound, thus effectively preventing people from getting it in California. These democrat leaders have probably been responsible for the deaths of thousands of Californian’s that might otherwise have been saved, all because of their crazed hatred for Trump.

    • 同意: Robert Dolan, St-Germain, FLgeezer
  108. Desert Fox 说:

    Covid-19 is one of the biggest scams in the history of the world and a psyop to boot, it does not exist, has never been isolated and the Jim Jones vaccines are a genocide agenda by the zionist/globalists to cull the herd by stampeding the sheeple into getting their kool aid vaccines which will destroy their immune sytems and eventually cause the deaths of millions.

    See thetruthseeker.co.uk and 健康影响新闻网.

  109. Schuetze 说:


    I feel a strange need for courage, poison and jews are seldom good….

    Or, in todays vernacular:

    “Take ze jew-juice goyim”

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  110. @Sirius

    咦?

    If a given disease isn’t deadly there is no reason to call it a “pandemic.”

    covid has an overall death rate of .2%, about the same as the flu.

    There was no reason to label covid a pandemic and lock down the whole fucking world to destroy entire economies and ruin people’s lives.

    The flu killed 80K people in 2018.

    TB kills nearly two million people per year. Do we have fucking “lockdowns” for TB? And there’s a strain of INCURABLE antibiotic resistant TB right here in the states (brought in by our lovely mexican friends) and nobody knows or cares.

    No…..you will never convince me that covid is a legitimate danger to humanity…..it was and is a POLITICAL TOOL.

    Sweden didn’t lock down and they are FINE.

    Eight of our own states did not lock down and they are FINE.

    • 同意: Carolyn Yeager
    • 回复: @Sirius
    , @Iris
  111. Schuetze 说:
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    “How many US Jews object to Israel?”

    A few hasidic jews in Brooklyn who think that Yahweh will not give them 3000 goyim slaves and free land if they destroy Palestine and create Eretz Israel BEFORE the TRUE messiah comes. The rest of them think that the true messiah is Israel itself, and the existence of Israel is proof that Yahweh wants them to murder and steal land from the Palestinians.

    Of course, for both groups of jews, the rest of the goyim are merely cattle.

  112. R2b 说:

    I heartily agree there’s no pandemic.
    But what is strange, is the death-peak, in several countries, at the same time!
    It seems it was that which convinced people about the killer-virus, in conjunction with the Ferguson-projection.
    Was that peak really accomplished by simultaneous lock-downs?
    I am like cranc, comment 25, not convinced about the correlation.
    And as is clear, the overall death-toll shows nothing exceptional.
    But those syncronous simultaneous peaks are a mystery.

  113. Dumbo 说:
    @Schuetze

    I wonder sometimes if this Klaus Schwab clown is just an actor, hired to scare people and drive people’s attention away from the REAL evil ones. I mean, OK, you look like a James Bond villain, you talk like a James Bond villain, but do you really need to dress like a James Bond villain?

    • 回复: @Schuetze
  114. Schuetze 说:
    @Dumbo

    “From left, the former secretary of state Henry A. Kissinger; Klaus Schwab, an original organizer of the European Management Symposium (later renamed the World Economic Forum); and Edward Heath, a former British prime minister, in Davos in 1980”

    Schwab is a Rothschild insider. Likely he is in carrier of the Rothschild gene. He has been pushing the globalist agenda for over 40 years now.

    • 谢谢: Iris
    • 回复: @Anonymous
  115. @John Wear

    People need to know the original SARS virus that killed around 8000+ people back in 2003 (which suddenly disappeared in 8 months) has also NEVER BEEN ISOLATED.

    It’s ALL a hoax people.

    • 谢谢: Mike Tre
  116. COVID19 is a political invention, a monopoly game with a few winners, and everyone else a loser. Today, in California, news came to me that hospital visitations will begin this Tuesday, February 2. In Rhode Island restrictions on restaurants will end. One hell if a price to pay inorder for some to siphon trillions of tax dollars, and put in office a facsimile of a man.

  117. carlos22 说:

    由疯子金正恩·约翰逊领导的英国政府有望很快让他们的大部分人口成为测试猴子的“疫苗”,而这种“疫苗”是几个月前第一个人类接种的!

    他们会在 5 年内患上癌症还是死于其他他妈知道的可怕疾病!!!

    这可能是现代历史上第一次整个文明被消灭。

    看这个空间

  118. carlos22 说:

    由疯子金正恩·约翰逊领导的英国政府要求他们的所有人口都成为测试猴子,以接种几个月前第一人服用的“疫苗”!

    他们会在 5 年内患上癌症还是死于其他他妈知道的可怕疾病!!!

    这可能是现代历史上第一次整个文明被消灭。

    看这个空间

  119. @Dumbo

    The cases continue to increase because the media is driving listeners to get tested, by a test that isn’t a test. But that’s ok, they got the bad guy out of Washington, and now they will relax a little, just a little.

  120. @SS-The Independent

    What does the “SS” stand for, Tiger?

    • 哈哈: Sean
    • 回复: @SS-The Independent
  121. @blaqua

    If SARS-CoV-2 exists—Why has it never been isolated? It has been isolated many times

    Last time someone on UR made this assertion, I spent several hours following his search suggestions, only to get to an article whose only evidence for that claim was a microscope picture of what looks like the alleged Coronavirus embedded in a sea of several other kinds of particles and cells. Nor had they attempted to infect real laboratory animals with it to determine if it produced the same symptoms. The only real claim they made was they had determined the genetic sequence of their find.

    When I reported back that I didn’t consider that a convincing isolation, the poster ignored me whilst continuing to pollute these pages with similar very long-winded claims.

    Probably your long-lost twin brother.

    • 回复: @blaqua
  122. Sirius 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    I never said I favored lockdowns, and I especially don’t believe in stay-at-home orders.

    Which eight states are you talking about? I think the jury’s still out on Sweden, but it’s worth examining.

    If a given disease isn’t deadly there is no reason to call it a “pandemic.”

    A dictionary definition of pandemic (Colliers dictionary):

    “A pandemic is an occurrence of a disease that affects many people over a very wide area.”

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
    , @geokat62
  123. @utu

    Thank you. This piece was published on the 25th, but only 17 comments before today.

    It doesn’t appear that anyone even half-sane is going near this one. I’d like to see what Unz thinks.

  124. carlos22 说:
    @Sirius

    它的 Nocebo 效应安慰剂邪恶双胞胎。

    我也知道患有“covid”的人最终都没事,但他们都说最糟糕的部分是知道他们实际上可能会死于这种疾病的心理影响,而不是大多数人认为是不便的流感休息几天。

    谈到休假天数,现在任何人都意识到所谓的“长期covid”是一年或更长时间全薪休假的黄金病假条。

    那些在合适的工作中拥有强大工会的人。 医学科学完全无法证明,因为它大部分是神经学的,难怪它的兴起。

    https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/features/nocebo-the-placebo-effects-evil-twin/20204524.article?firstPass=false

  125. Bill Jones 说:
    @Ugetit

    What virus doesn’t exist?

    The CDC on July 13th, in their 49 pages of instructions as to how to conduct the RT-PCR tests specifically acknowledges that no Covid-19 samples have been isolated.
    The test is looking for certain anti-bodies generated in response to a number of viruses known, or “supposed” to cause symptoms blamed on Covid-19.

  126. Corvinus 说:
    @thordaddy

    Keep your vomit over at the PA World And Times website.

    • 回复: @R.G. Camara
  127. Rooster10 说:
    @p4nc4k3s Pl34s3

    Thank you for that insight. When you say it cycles between 35-45 times, does that mean the machine automatically cycles it in that range, or can a technician set the cycle at say 35, or 40, etc.?

    Also, if there’s been numerous studies that say a Ct value of over 40 provides too many false positives, why would the machine go up to 45? Might it be useful to have a Ct threshold of 45 for other tests than the PCR?

    • 回复: @Bill Jones
    , @p4nc4k3s Pl34s3
  128. @Anonymous

    He’s one of the few sane and rational persons amongst the commenters on this thread.

    • 不同意: Georgia
    • 回复: @daniel le mouche
    , @Georgia
  129. Will they classify all those who die following vaccination, say up to two months or even six months after vaccination, as having died of the vaccine, especially those over 60, 70, 80 year olds in retirement homes and those with one or several serious comorbidities? Or maybe they could classify them as dying “with the vaccine’ rather than “of the vaccine”. Then we could fairly compare to numbers of those who died with/of Covid and see which is deadlier: Covid or the vaccine.

  130. Iris 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    If a given disease isn’t deadly there is no reason to call it a “pandemic.”

    Sirius is right, though.

    From memory, the World Health Organisation’s definition of a Health emergency crisis is that of a situation were national health services are overwhelmed.

    The PTB’s are careful not mention Covid excess deaths anyway, except in a handful of limited Covid hotspots. What is presented as the principal threat posed by Covid is hospital capacities being exceeded, and the exhaustion of national Health personnel, who constitute a specific risk category due to their increased exposure.

    In Canada, as an example, the Health authorities have recently forecast a collateral 10%- increase of cancer-induced deaths in the coming years, due to over-delayed screening and treatment.

    Pretending that Covid is purely “a hoax” is a lunacy and does not help answering the question of why our freedoms and lives being taken from us.

    What Covid is showing is that a real pandemic with a very low-death rate, but requiring long hospital treatments for the most vulnerable, has become an incapacitating blow to Western societies because of the austerity policies that have reduced Health systems to barely-functioning skeletons.

    In the West, there has always been money available to bail the banks, but none to fund Health systems which have been consistently stripped over the years. This is the real fact that we should face and are paying for, and this is where nations with higher investment in Health infrastructure and heightened socio-economic solidarity, such as China, have shown their superiority.

    It is very possible/probable that the PTB’s are taking the opportunity of Covid to reset the economy, curb liberties, and whatnot; their cynicism has no limit. And it is most certain that ARN-based vaccines are a gamble, sugar-coated with deliberate institutional lies, and can turn out very badly.

    But negating that Covid exists and kills people is a lunacy, and does not help in any way.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  131. Anonymous[144]• 免责声明 说:
    @saggy

    It is government paid trolls, traitors to mankind, who tell us what to think. Don’t you agree, Saggy?

  132. @Magic Dirt

    “We are all far beyond the point where a non-expert could reasonably conclude anything.”

    That’s the most fatuous remark I’ve seen since last Wednesday.

    You can trust a Swede to blow that one out of the water:
    https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2021/01/15/final-report-on-swedish-mortality-2020-anno-covid/amp/

  133. Factorize 说:

    Israel has vaccinated over half of its population against COVID. Presumably this should imply a corresponding dramatic decline in mortality in Israel. This is untrue; Israel is now at a pandemic high. This despite the fact that high risk people in populations are heavily concentrated in specific demographics (and these high risk people were prioritized for vaccination), while the remainder of the population (including youth and those without co-morbidities etc.) are thought to be at low risk.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/Israel/

    • 回复: @Alfred
  134. Fantastic work by Nicholas Kollerstrom, as we’ve learned to expect from him. He always stays in the realm of reality, and documents his findings. Plus he’s a good writer – a pleasure to read, while so many articles like this are a drudgery. Thanks Nick, A-plus.

    • 同意: John Wear
  135. @Magic Dirt

    Well, magic, why have influenza deaths ceased, influenza, pneumonia and CoVid 19 having been bundled into one category. What goes on there?

  136. @SS-The Independent

    SS-Karl Marx and Klaus Schwab? Surely you jest. Whyever are capitalist demagogues being labeled ‘ Left’? It is not even laughable.

  137. @Schuetze

    Why do you use a German word for your name? You’re not German; not even close. I hate 制定者.

    • 回复: @Dumbo
    , @Schuetze
  138. Bill Jones 说:
    @Rooster10

    Also, if there’s been numerous studies that say a Ct value of over 40 provides too many false positives, why would the machine go up to 45?

    The RT-PCR machines have other uses, ones they are designed for. Kari Mullis, the Nobel prize winning inventor of the technique explains why they should not be used for viral testing.

    A court in Portugal, in ruling on a case concerning the legitimacy of the lock-downs: Finding: no scientific basis at all, determined that a cycle threshold gt 23 was unrepeatable. You will recall that repeatability is the core of the scientific method, won’t you?

  139. Iris 说:
    @saggy

    idiots like Trump and Kollerstrom , author of ‘The Life and Death of Paul McCartney’

    Better to remain open-minded and specific about the topics/conspiracies discussed; it is hard to keep up with the BS we are fed.

    Regarding the Paul McCartney case, Nick Kollerstrom has simply and factually documented an actual urban legend.

    In early 1967, a rumour circulated in London that Paul McCartney had been killed in a traffic accident while driving along the M1 motorway. The rumour was acknowledged and rebutted in the February issue of The Beatles Book, a fanzine.

    It was latter fuelled by the Beatles 他们自己, when they recorded secret messages to be read backwards on their vinyl records, stating that PMC had died.

    American students became aware of it.
    In Sep 1969, an amateur editor at the Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa, published an article titled “Is Beatle Paul McCartney Dead?“
    In October 1969, a caller to Detroit radio station WKNR-FM told disc jockey Russ Gibb about the rumour and its clues; the rumour was discussed on air for the next hour, and this is how the conspiracy theory started.

    There has been much research on the topic, including recent works using state-of-the-arts biometrics which concluded to PMC having been replaced by a double. A most striking argument is that the original PMC had undoubtedly brown eyes, while the PMC who appeared after Nov 1966 had green eyes, a change that cannot naturally happen to a human being.

    More likely than not, the original PMC did indeed die in a car accident and was replaced by a double for economic and financial reasons, because of the weight of British pop music in Britain’s GDP at the time. This conspiracy is probably true and only shows how skilled Britain always was at fooling the masses.

    • 回复: @saggy
  140. @Rooster10

    The GeneX analyzer is not adjustable, it is basically an auto-pipettor for the test cartridge, which is quite an ingenious little system. We use the same system for GC/Chlamydia, Flu a/b, C difficile. The test cartridge for SARS-COV2 is preset to run the full length of cycles, if directed to do so I imagine the company would change the amount of cycles required but that would come from somebody in the know and I don’t know who that would be.

  141. @Sirius

    CoVid-19 exists. All that work on this chimaeric virus, with untold generations of replication in vitro in laboratory work, the insertion of a base sequence coding for a furin cleavage site, making it more readily transmissable etc, has not gone to waste. More variants are undoubtedly ready for release, when and if required. One obvious purpose for its creation is to provide a casus belli for an attack on China. The Murdoch cancer in particular here in Oz is peddling the BIG Lie that this is a Chinese bioweapon, unleashed deliberately by the diabolical ChiComms-and the hysteria of raw race hatred is only growing.

    • 同意: Iris
  142. @Iris

    废话。

    People are not dying any more than they usually do.

    Old and frail people die from the fucking flu and pneumonia ALL THE TIME.

    Near the end of your post you got to the truth, but then you blew it at the very end by going back to the “covid is ebola” hysterical jewish media narrative.

    covid has a death rate of .2% so it is NOT dangerous unless you are 80 years old with one foot in the grave.

    I’m convinced that I had covid, had a bad cold, lost sense of taste and smell, got over it in about a week. Lady friend had covid for sure, thought it was an allergy attack, stuffy nose, that was ALL.
    And I know two other people who had it for sure, like a bad flu, got over it no problem.

    Let me ask you (or anyone on the site) if there had been no media blitz regarding “a deadly virus” do you really think that anybody would have noticed?

    TBH, at this point, I am not convinced that covid actually exists. I think it is entirely possible that they have simply repackaged the flu and TB and pneumonia and re-labeled it as “covid.”

    In any case, FOR SURE they have been falsifying death certificates for an entire year and LYING that heart attacks and cancer and flu and pneumonia and BULLET WOUND deaths are fucking COVID. They have labeled motorcycle deaths as covid! I could go on and on.

    They give hospitals \$13,000 for every covid diagnosis, so they have incentivized covid and made it into a gold mine. They also give \$39,000 for every ventilator which actually resulted in the MURDER of thousands of people……90% of the ventilated DIED.

    The problem is that the media LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING, and the government LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING, so it’s become impossible to locate the truth.

    Johns Hopkins published a paper a while back that said that there are no more deaths this year than years before…..but that deaths for flu, heart attacks, pneumonia, etc., had disappeared.

    Put two and two together.

    In addition, the lying CDC actually admitted that fully 94% of the “covid deaths” were not FROM covid but WITH covid. So actually only 6% of the deaths were from covid19, and that number is MUCH smaller than the bullshit 400K number from the fear mongering jewish media.

    Watch….now that Trump is out…..and the FBI is going after every white person on earth……watch as “covid” mysteriously disappears and things get opened up again.

  143. Stealth 说:
    @ThereisaGod

    我相信我们对冠状病毒的反应将载入史册,成为有史以来最严重的大规模歇斯底里案例之一。

    • 回复: @Marshall Lentini
  144. Art 说:

    By Nick Kollerstrom, PhD, author of The Great British coronavirus Hoax, A Sceptics view (被亚马逊禁止.)

    “banned by Amazon” is totally wrong. Amazon is not the government. Political speech is sacred in America – end of story.

    Amazon is subject to community standards. US constitutional standards say – print political speech!

    Hmm – Amazon claims community standards – we must see how they came to those standards. They must produce the committee and their politics – that came up with the banning of this book.

    Amazon, FB, Google, and Twitter can not claim “community standards.” They are lying. We all know that their claims are political.

    • 同意: John Wear, Iris
  145. Miro23 说:
    @Alfred

    Just what I have been waiting for.

    Anyone who cannot see the connection between this virus scam and more government repression is not paying attention.

    Here It Is – The Bill To Destroy Gun Ownership

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/regulation/here-it-is-the-bill-to-destroy-gun-ownership/

    This virus propaganda hit enabled unrequested and manipulated mail in voting = Biden’s election = this legislation. It’s the removal of the final barrier to the enforcement of the NWO and they are ramping up the propaganda. They want absolute power.

    And with regard to the NWO, thanks to Dumbo for this link:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=586147301735

    The WEF (World Economic Forum) AKA Davos have adopted Ida Auken because her innocent version of millenialism/betterworldism is the same religious type of vehicle as Bolshevism – allowing any means to justify the end.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_Auken

    Ida may be a nutty version of Green but the people around her are totalitarians.

  146. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    As a subscriber to The Australian – the Murdoch nationwide broadsheet – I am bewildered by your statement

    The Murdoch cancer in particular here in Oz is peddling the BIG Lie that this is a Chinese bioweapon, unleashed deliberately by the diabolical ChiComms-and the hysteria of raw race hatred is only growing.

    I am totally unaware of any such Murdoch media lines. Would you care to substantiate your allegations with credible detail?

  147. Question to Ron Unz.

    What induced you to publish this low grade amateur rubbish? Was it because Nick Kollerstram had earned some sort of license (limited I trust) by contributing his last article featured in UR, namely
    https://www.unz.com/article/reflections-on-the-chabloz-case/.

    That, at least without a lot of checking that I saw no need for, seemed excellent. By contrast his latest piece is almost mad.

    • 巨魔: Schuetze
    • 回复: @daniel le mouche
  148. 两点:
    1. Nice chart with the bottom at 5000 instead of zero to make the peaks took taller.

    2. Why the average of five years? Yearly flu season ebb and flow, and charts like a saw’s teeth, and averaging them is like filing down the teeth. Maybe we were just due for an above average flu season and are at the top of a tooth, and we should compare to other teeth and not the valleys.

    3. If they can make Biden get 81M votes, they can make the death stastistics higher. Maybe all the retirees who died long ago but their families kept collecting their social security finally got officially recorded as dead.

  149. Beau Nydle 说:
    @paranoid goy

    那是一个半的答复,带有高度清晰的远队列的慷慨侧板。 UNZ Review 评论部分的一些受访者的素质总是给我留下深刻印象和恐吓。 谢谢你让我们读到那个陌生人。

  150. “””The average age of death in England & Wales is 81.5 years, while the average age of ‘Covid-19 fatalities’ is 82.4 years (ONS data). What this tells us is very simple: the disease does not exist.”””

    Americans have been saying this for moths. Covid is just another cold and there never was a crisis. The CDC classifies everyone who dies with covid as dying of covid.

    440,000 americans have NOT died of covid. Maybe 20,000.

  151. I was probably taken in by the covid hype and believed I had “covid” last year because of loss of taste and smell….but it was likely just a bad cold and nothing unusual.

    At this point I’m wondering if “covid” is just the old respiratory illnesses repackaged.

    I admit that I have no idea what the truth is at this point.

  152. @Anonymous

    Here’s \$25. Look into the camera and say you lost your sense of smell. Thank you.

  153. tomo 说:
    @SS-The Independent

    I am from Serbia and I completely agree with you – the worst elements of fascism, totalitarianism, propaganda, psychopath worshiping, socially disconnected sheeple mentality, next to no social contract and an escalating democide…
    Eastern Europe in the 70s was a paradise compared to this gulag of modern day zio-MORDOR

    • 同意: SS-The Independent
  154. tomo 说:
    @SS-The Independent

    That’s why there are court cases for Crimes against Humanity happening in Germany and even in Ontario where a famous constitutional lawyer has taken governments of Canadistan, Ontario and Toronto as well as CBC fake news outlet to court for terrorizing Canadians based on Lies, fraud and psychopath-worshiping:

    Lawyers fight crime against humanity.



    视频链接
    https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-entretiens/video-debriefing-reiner-fuellmich

    Rocco Galati’s website:
    https://www.constitutionalrightscentre.ca/category/news/
    https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/wp-content/uploads/vcc-statement-of-claim-2020-redacted.pdf
    最新的:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ks9Bk8wHg&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=TheShift

  155. tomo 说:
    @SS-The Independent

    This will cheer you up – The Greater Reset – focusing on solutions – how to fight the Davos Democidal Psychopaths:

    https://thegreaterreset.org/
    https://www.corbettreport.com/

    • 同意: SS-The Independent
  156. @Robert Dolan

    If you didn’t allow your speculations to wander so widely – except when it comes to acknowledging the experience of the non-American world (cf. Your last par) you would have in mind such facts as the way passengers and crew on cruise ships were affected, and in countries like Australia, which have had no cases amongst local non-travlers for weeks, a huge death rate in some aged care homes (way beyond the age predicted) where, typically, some part time staff member brought it in. I have an in-law who, a retired UK medical professor of 88, has just survived a gruelling few weeks and has no doubt that he caught Covid 19 from his home carer!

  157. @John Wear

    If the creator of the PCR cautioned against its use to diagnose infectious diseases, and the PTB never release the number of cycles required before the ‘positive’ result appears, why do the MSM presstitutes increasingly refer to it as ‘the gold standard’? After all they are the truth-tellers, selflessly toiling to protect us from lies and disinformation.

  158. @Dumbo

    SARS CoV 2 is an invention, and CoViD19 is an exaggeration-so far. The ‘why’ is all, but we’ll soon see I think.

  159. @Lucy Lipinska

    Most ordinary Jewish people act as human shields for the parasitic elites, the group whose actions throughout the last couple of millennia,have always gotten all Jews into strife. They learned nothing and forgot nothing from the experience of the Nazi/fascist Judeocide, but retained their hatred for the goyim (the real basis of Judaism)and insatiable greed, and, hence, have prepared the way for another catastrophe, one that will, Masada-like, take Israel down and, throwing back to Samson, bring down the earthly temple on all our heads. I think that Bibi’s lust for a New Purim inflicted on Iran will precipitate the deluge.

  160. I suspect that some of the mad speculations on this thread about controlling elties, PTB etc would not be so common amongst Americans who had experience of a typically civilised and effective public health care system.

    Why? Because the stark simplicity of the imperatives for politicians in most countries would be apparent to them.

    Anywhere but in the US you would probably see politicians facing, early on, the stark question “what risk of disaster to my political future does this disease present?”. And, unlike in America, the answer would be clear and simple. The imperative would be to avoid blame for there not being enough intensive care beds or enough respirators for those requiring intubation. Almost everything flows from that and, in some of the luck countries, it wasn’t too difficult to meet the minimum requirement for political safety. Despite massive quarantine requirements from cruise ships the curve was smoothed by lock downs of varying detail and the health systems were not overburdened and political careers threatened. More complicated arguments about the economic affects of lockdowns and the related fine tuning were subordinated for months.

    By contrast the structure(s) of health care in the US gave politicians no such clear guidance.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
    , @Patric
  161. Masks end when black folks stop wearing them. This will be highlighted when kids return to school in the Fall and black kids don’t want to muzzle their talking and yelling in the hallways and class. School administrators are not going to be able to hyper-manage thousands of kids all day, with hundreds or thousands of them (black) not “obeying” the “rules”. Eventually none of the kids will wear them.

    This could happen in the regular public as well. We all know that if blacks, en masse, started going out in public every where without masks–nothing would be done–and in fact it would start to be called “brave”.

  162. Ron Unz 说:

    Given this energetic discussion thread, I think I’ll republish my own comment from last April about how I think all this Flu Hoax nonsense may have originated. I’m pretty sure it was mostly due to being so heavily promoted by Andrew Anglin’s 每日斯托默, which back then had far more traffic than every other Alt Right publication in the world combined:

    我经常阅读的两个“另类正确”新闻来源是 Unz 和 The Daily Stormer。 安德鲁安格林在二月份称这是一个骗局,看起来他是对的。

    好吧,我碰巧有自己的“阴谋论”,关于这些争议的幕后到底发生了什么……

    那个 Anglin 家伙似乎是一个非常敏锐的人,我曾经经常查看他的网站,尽管其中很多材料显然是夸张的讽刺或行为艺术。

    假设你读过我最近的文章,你知道我认为整个冠状病毒爆发很可能是对中国(和伊朗)的生物战攻击,大概是特朗普周围的一些深州新保守派。 我很早就有了怀疑,我知道安格林也在很多场合说过同样的话。 仔细想想,整个情况真的是相当明目张胆。 我在 XNUMX 月下旬的评论中反复强调了这一点。

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    但正如我的文章所强调的,袭击背后的人已经预料到了这样的指控,因此他们在 XNUMX 月中旬发起了自己的大规模宣传攻势,在右翼圈子里广泛宣传该病毒是一种意外释放的中国生物武器的想法,ZeroHedge他们的主要场地之一。

    我记得XNUMX月份左右,安吉林(Anglin)自由地说,由于特朗普的无能,整个事件将在美国造成彻底的灾难,许多人会丧生。 我认为他甚至对特朗普人民如此轻易地将指责推卸给中国一事感到非常震惊,尽管这绝对没有道理。

    因此,我怀疑他意识到“中国生物武器”的故事在(脆弱的)右翼激进分子中根深蒂固,以至于当这个话题在美国真正成为热点时,它很容易就被更可信的信息所取代。 然后他决定发动一次聪明的侧翼攻击,并专注于“这就是流感!!!” 胡说八道,这也一直在边缘圈子中徘徊。

    根据某人链接的ZeroHedge文章的评论,它似乎运行良好。 ZeroHedge的“中国生物武器”人员显然完全被“这就是流感!”淹没了。 人们。 毕竟,如果只是流感! 谁能怪中国呢?

    So if you Flu Hoaxers are willing to spend most of your time fighting the Deep State Neocon shills who are promoting the (very dangerous) “Chinese Bioweapon” nonsense, more power to you.

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/lifting-the-lockdown-easy-does-it/#comment-3863472

    • 不同意: Corvinus
    • 谢谢: mark green
    • 回复: @Dumbo
    , @thotmonger
    , @Schuetze
  163. @Wizard of Oz

    Uh no…..the curve was NOT “smoothed by bullshit lockdowns” that were supposed to be for TWO fucking weeks but turned out to be for a godamned YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “Mad speculation?”

    你在逗我吗?

    A slimy media that has LIED FOR A FUCKING YEAR AND WRECKED THE ECONOMIES OF THE ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD?

    No pal…..you do not get what happened at all. Your take is absurd.

    Our political system does not work the way you think it does because you don’t understand the power of the media. The media has BECOME the ruling elite and the power of the media far exceeds that of the actual government. The jewish media can make or break ANYONE in power, including the President of the United States.

    You suffer under the delusion that the United States government actually answers to the populace; they do NOT.

    The US government answers to the jewish ruling elite, the small class of jewish donors that actually dictate ALL government policies and legislation.

    I admit that I do not understand everything regarding “covid,” but I do have a thorough understanding of jewish influence on every government in the western world.

    I can tell you this much for SURE, that whether covid exists as an independent disease or it was re-packaged as existing respiratory illnesses…..in any case it has been utilized in a PURELY POLITICAL MANNER FOR PURELY POLITICAL ENDS HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH MEDICINE OR PROTECING THE PUBLIC.

    • 同意: St-Germain
    • 谢谢: Commentator Mike, FLgeezer
    • 巨魔: Corvinus
  164. Thirdtwin 说:
    @Schuetze

    你对弥赛亚犹太人有什么看法?

    • 回复: @Schuetze
  165. anon[206]• 免责声明 说:
    @canspeccy

    “As it is, power mad loons such as Justin Trudeau are striving to make life even more intolerable for all and sundry.”

    Justin Trudeau, gay loon and queen of the steambath.

  166. M5959 说:

    This is an odd analysis. It seems to me physicians determined that putting folks on ventilators wasn’t working and instead used high flow O2. Additionally, those that were incubated and ventilated were pronated every couple of hours or so which helped prevent pneumonia.

  167. Biff 说:

    There seems to be at least three factions surrounding the corona virus.
    The flu hoaxers
    The flu realists and it’s dangerous
    The flu is real, but barely lethal – not so dangerous.

    All of which can pan out into a million conspiracy theories, but if you keep an eye on historical parallels it can help

  168. @anon

    That would be another Achilles Heel of ‘liberal capitalist democracy’, if such a thing existed. All the electorate has (notionally only) an equal vote, despite the vast differences in intelligence, knowledge, psychology, experience etc. And election campaigns are cavalcades of lies, appeals to greed, hate and fear-mongering and character assassination, where Uncle Adolph’s ‘Big Lie’ seldom fails to bear strange fruit.

  169. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Watch SkyNews Wiz-particularly that bonny Zionazi babe Sharri Markson. I don’t read The Oz unless its free, and cafes have removed them as a CoVid ‘risk’.

  170. Paul C. 说:
    @Schuetze

    James Perloff was born half Jewish but is Christian. His book, “Truth is a Lonely Warrior” is an excellent place for anyone who wants to begin understanding the world.

  171. peted 说:

    @比尔·琼斯

    A most striking argument is that the original PMC had undoubtedly brown eyes, while the PMC who appeared after Nov 1966 had green eyes, a change that cannot naturally happen to a human being.

    Nope. A childhood friend of mine had brown eyes. As an adult, his eyes changes to green (he does not wear colored lenses, either.)

  172. Dnought 说:
    @GeeBee

    Neither Fripp nor Sinfield are Jewish, if that is what you are saying. I think Fripp is a Welshman, actually. Sinfield is at least part Irish.

    • 回复: @GeeBee
  173. @Magic Dirt

    I agree that this article was very poorly reasoned. The author claims that statistics show an excess of deaths in the UK of 75,000 and in the US of 280,000. Then the author tries claiming that we haven’t had enough flu deaths, as if that helps his case. It does not.

    If it could be shown that the total number of deaths which occurred in 2020 was actually no higher than would be forecast from data for 2015-9, then it would make sense to treat a drop in reported flu deaths as accounting for some of the alleged CV-19 deaths. However, once we have granted the numbers of 75,000 and 280,000 respectively, then we are stuck with these numbers and need to account for them by showing an increase in deaths from other causes besides CV-19. For example, if one could document an increase in suicides then it would make sense to deduct this increase from the figures of 75,000 and 280,000 respectively. But if it were to turn out there were actually fewer suicides then this would not help the argument. My guess is that there were probably more suicides, but not enough to balance off the figures of 75,000 and 280,000. Ditto for crime. There was an increase in murder rates which should be deducted, but it won’t suffice to offset everything.

    The argument of “but there were fewer flu deaths” would only help if it could be shown that there were no overall excess deaths. If statistical evidence could show that the numbers who died in 2020 were actually no higher than would be predicted from earlier years, then suddenly it would become very important to know “have we really taken into account the likely flu deaths when counting CV-19 deaths?” But once we make allowance that there were actually some excess deaths, then this mode of argument has the opposite of the intended effect. If anything, the flu would only matter if you could prove that we had a vast increase in flu deaths this last year and such deaths should be deducted from the CV-19 total. No one has made that case anywhere.

    As you point out, it’s absurd to claim that because an increase in deaths happened after the lockdowns began that lockdowns are the cause of death. The lockdowns were motivated by data showing that a virus was about to spread right before the lockdowns began. So it makes sense that the deaths will be surging after the lockdowns. Where data supports the claim that murder and suicide increased after the lockdowns then any excess deaths of this type should be deducted from the 75,000 and 280,000 figures. But that won’t be enough to balance everything out. Not by a long shot.

    • 巨魔: Alfred
    • 回复: @Getaclue
  174. @Robert Dolan

    If people are not dying more than they usually do, then where did the author get his numbers of 75,000 and 280,000 from. Those figures are given right in the above text as approximate excess death tolls for the UK and US in 2020. It would seem according to Kollerstrom that people really were dying more than they usually do. Do you have a refutation of the author’s own figures?

  175. Dumbo 说:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Oooh we should not pretend to be part of “the master race”, should we? LOL.

    I know Germans, they are like everyone else. Llike every other race on Earth the majority are pretty dumb and fall for the Covid hysteria, and are leftist too.

    Also, poseurs is a French word, you shouldn’t use it if you’re not French, I guess.

    I’m part German, by the way, well, Swiss-German.

    P.S. I have no idea if he’s German or not, but I see no problem in one using any pseudonym one likes. Mine is also not my real name, btw. 😉

    • 谢谢: Schuetze
  176. Dumbo 说:
    @Ron Unz

    you know that I think it’s pretty likely that the whole Coronavirus outbreak was a biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), presumably by some of the Deep State Neocons around Trump.

    The Covid hysteria being a hoax or an exaggeration is “nonsense”, but, it being some kind of bioweapon created to attack China and Iran, is “likely”… LOL.

    Sometimes I wonder if Unz’s plan for this site is to discredit all common sense information, mixing truth with untruths. This would explain why so many interesting writers are put together with others who are either completely delusional or just leftist hacks. Anything goes.

    • 哈哈: CanSpeccy
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  177. thotmonger 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Mmm. Zero Hedge, Zero Hedge… That is the RT Keiser guy, right? It’s as if I am trying to fathom a move by Magnus Carlson. I’m stumped.

    I mean, thanks for the forum and all. But how do you feel about schools being shuttered in many countries this past year? And, assuming poverty is a bit of a health risk, how will tossing hundreds of millions of people out of work and into looming destitution compare to the increase in total deaths (median age 80?) attributed to CV19? Not to mention the 1st Amendment, election confidence, etc.

    My impression is the captains have, for one reason or another, just steered the fleet onto a reef.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/513999-gamestop-debacle-options-trading/

  178. Schuetze 说:
    @Thirdtwin

    I really don’t know much about them nor will I invest any time to learn about them. I believe that they are located in Israel, so that makes them either guilty of theft or of knowingly receiving stolen property. To what degree they are racial supremacist is secondary to their squatting on stolen land.

    你有什么意见?

  179. KeltCindy 说:
    @Sirius

    Of the dozens of comments here, Sirius, yours readily stands out…

    Your use of common sense and reason, while encouraging the avoidance of “all-or-nothing” thinking, well….

    … it’s like finding a diamond ring in the dog poop….

    爱,辛迪

    “May you live in interesting times…”

    Boy, that fortune cookie WASN’T lying…

    • 回复: @Sirius
  180. Schuetze 说:
    @Ron Unz

    “Flu Hoax nonsense”

    To call it “nonsense” is to imply that there is no truth in claims that a hoax is being perpetrated. This would imply that you believe that a) all their absurd claims are true, or b) that they truly believe them to be true.

    All one has to do is look at the various actions and statements of our revered Dr. Fauci to prove that that both a) and b) are not true.

    – Fauci invested millions in gain of function research on covid in Wuhan.
    – Fauci has at various times stated that masks are ineffective and then effective
    – Fauci has various times claimed that alternative treatments are effective and ineffective
    – Fauci has various times claimed that asymptomatic transfer occurs and does not occur
    – Fauci has claimed that PCR tests are both accurate and innacurate.

    And it certainly does not stop with Fauci. From another viewpoint, all that is required for the statement “Flu hoax” to be true is one of the following: a) the entire hoax was planned and created in Event 201, or b) they are merely “hoaxing” us as each opportunity arises.

    Personally, I believe, but cannot prove, that the entire scamdemic was planned and orchestrated from the beginning. The proof that Fauci has been hoaxing, or gaslighting us, is irrefutable.

    Also as far as Anglin goes, it is over the top to smear him for falling for the propaganda coming out of Wuhan in February and March of 2020. There were videos of people collapsing in the streets and dying of “cyclotine storms”, massive hospitals and crematoriums being constructed in days, and dead bodies piled up in halls of hospitals. In a short few weeks these turned into tic-tok videos of doctors and nurses with nothing to do dancing in empty hospitals. We were all gaslighted and hoaxed.

    Whatever “virus” hit Wuhan a year ago was either a hoax or completely different from the one that is causing a mild influenza across Europe and the US today. If there are different covid viruses being released at different times in different places then that rises to the level of “hoax” in my book, albeit a bio-warfare hoax.

  181. KeltCindy 说:
    @Sirius

    Of the dozens of comments here, Sirius, yours readily stands out…

    Your use of personal observation, common sense and reason, while encouraging the avoidance of “all-or-nothing” thinking, well….

    … it’s like finding a diamond ring in the dog poop….

    爱,辛迪

    “May you live in interesting times…”

    Boy, that fortune cookie WASN’T lying…

  182. Alfred 说:
    @Factorize

    谢谢你。 有趣的。

    But I thought the vaccine companies never claimed that their vaccine prevents people from getting infected or infecting others. What I mean is that the game is rigged. If the whole of the population of Israel were vaccinated, it would change nothing.

    Merck abandoned its work on a vaccine – after getting \$300+m from US government. They have made an honest statement.

    Vaccine manufacturer Merck has abandoned development of two coronavirus vaccines, saying that after extensive research it was concluded that the shots offered less protection than just contracting the virus itself and developing antibodies. (much garbage simplified to standard English)

    Merck Scraps COVID Vaccines; Says It’s More Effective To Get The Virus And Recover (WSJ)

    I stand by my assertion around 12 months ago that herd immunity takes place with no lockdowns when around 20% of the population has been infected.

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @CanSpeccy
  183. sb 说:
    @Alfred

    Isn’t one of the kids in the photo Andy Murray the tennis player ?

    • 回复: @Alfred
  184. St-Germain 说:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    My crystal ball is broken. How many deaths are you predicting?

    • 回复: @acementhead
  185. Dumbo 说:

    “Trust the plan” (The Great Reset plan, that is). It’s all going according to schedule.

    Next thing to “happen” will be a “vaccine-resistant mutation”, that will require more lockdowns and extreme measures, and perhaps a new, stronger vaccine. If Goldman Sachs says it…

    https://www.businessinsider.in/stock-market/news/goldman-sachs-warns-a-vaccine-resistant-covid-19-strain-could-cut-us-growth-by-more-than-a-third-in-2021/articleshow/80451469.cms

    • 同意: Ray Caruso
    • 回复: @Ray Caruso
  186. sally 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    你们这些反对者只是相信世界是方形的,所以你们没有加入环游世界的航程,结果不仅没有得到棒棒糖,而且全球变暖将你们居住的地方缩小到 10 英尺在海洋表面之下。

    数据就是数据,所有数据都是整个画面的一部分。

    I think the data even before this Majic Dirt analsysis suggest not only is the impact of the Corona 19 virus nothing more than “state promoted terror propaganda” but the RNA suggested to be a vaccination, is nothing more than a genetic scrip very likely designed to redirect own bodies basic metabolism. After all RNA is used to genetically engineer all biological species, include virus sick mankind.

    The question unansered by anyone, including showman Fauci: “which is more dangerous the RNA vaccination or the virus..”

    我说要证明 RNA 杀死你的可能性不是病毒的一百万倍。 从长远来看,没有数据显示 RNA 脚本(所谓的疫苗接种)对您有什么作用? 也许它甚至可以让你被 5g 控制?

    Than you Majic Dirt for the analysis. all these persons who don’t won’t to listen to you, have not presented one piece of accountable data to disprove or to impringe on your analysis.. Its the best so far.

    要让我对用 RNA 脚本转染我的身体产生兴趣,需要的不仅仅是总统令或国会法案

    • 同意: Alfred
  187. Patric 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I can’t agree with that. I live in Ireland and before Covid the health budget was 20 billion which just about eats up all PAYE taxes. By the end of 2021 it will be about 30 billion the increase thanks largely to covid. We have suffered much the same as many other countries in terms of lockdowns etc

    Regardless of politics I think the medical system itself is hugely wasteful and wrong about so many things. The more ‘comprehensive’ the medical system is the more comprehensibly wrong and expensive it is

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  188. Ron Unz 说:
    @Dumbo

    The Covid hysteria being a hoax or an exaggeration is “nonsense”, but, it being some kind of bioweapon created to attack China and Iran, is “likely”… LOL.

    Sometimes I wonder if Unz’s plan for this site is to discredit all common sense information, mixing truth with untruths. This would explain why so many interesting writers are put together with others who are either completely delusional or just leftist hacks. Anything goes.

    Not really and the evidence seems pretty air-tight. I published the analysis back in April and I’ve been repeating it endlessly since then. Here are a few of the key paragraphs:

    但是由于后来我们自己的政府无所作为的可怕后果是显而易见的,我们情报机构中的人员试图证明他们不是在转瞬即逝的人。 本月初, an 美国广播公司新闻 故事 引用了四个不同的政府消息来源,他们透露,早在XNUMX月下旬,美国国防情报局内的一个特殊医学情报部门就已经发布了一份报告,警告说在中国武汉地区正在发生失控的疾病流行。将该文件分发给了我们政府的高层,警告要采取步骤保护驻亚洲的美军。 故事播出后,五角大楼发言人正式否认该报告的存在,而其他高层政府和情报官员则拒绝置评。 但是几天后 以色列电视台提到 在XNUMX月,美国情报机构确实与北约和以色列盟友分享了有关武汉疾病暴发的报告,因此似乎独立地确认了原始报告的完整准确性。 美国广播公司新闻 故事及其政府的一些消息来源。

    因此,国防情报局的人员似乎比中国政府本身的官员早一个多月就意识到武汉发生了致命的病毒性暴发。  除非我们的情报机构率先采用预知技术,否则我认为发生这种情况的原因可能与纵火犯最早了解未来火灾的原因相同。

    随着冠状病毒逐渐开始向中国境外传播,发生了另一种事态发展,使我的猜疑倍增。 在与中国接壤的东亚国家中,大多数此类早期病例的发生恰恰是人们所期望的。 但是到XNUMX月下旬,伊朗已成为全球疫情的第二重灾区。 更令人惊讶的是,其政治精英受到的打击尤其严重, 整个伊朗议会的整整10%即将感染 和至少 十几个官员和政治家 死于疾病,包括一些 相当高级。 确实,推特上的Neocon活动家开始兴高采烈地指出,他们仇恨的伊朗敌人现在像苍蝇一样下落。

    让我们考虑这些事实的含义。 在全世界范围内,唯一遭受重大人员伤亡的政治精英是伊朗的政治精英,他们很早就去世了,甚至在中国以外的世界上几乎任何地方都没有爆发大爆发之前就已经死亡。 因此,我们在2月XNUMX日让美国暗杀了伊朗的最高军事指挥官,然后在几周后,伊朗统治精英分子的大部分被一种神秘而致命的新病毒感染,其中许多人很快因此丧命。 有理智的个人可能会认为这仅仅是巧合吗?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    According to these MSM accounts, by “the second week of November” our Defense Intelligence Agency was already producing a secret report describing a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan at a time when probably only a couple of dozen people had become infected by a new and totally unknown virus in a city of 11 million. What’s your alternate explanation?

    The only reason you find this theory so difficult to accept is that you haven’t seen it endlessly promoted in YouTube videos or Twitter memes by ignorant shills or other “influencers”…

    • 同意: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • 谢谢: Iris, FLgeezer
  189. Schuetze 说:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “You’re not German; not even close.”

    My father’s family came from Thurgau, my mother’s family from Tübingen, although I do have some Saxon (English) blood too. Technically that would make me an Alemanni, a Schwabian, or even a Württemberger. It is my opinion that “Germany” would have been far better off if the two Prussians, Wilhelm II and Bismark, had not forced all the smaller German tribes at gunpoint into their Reich.

    My two German speaking Granddaughters are eating Erdbeertorte with me this very moment.

    As far as Poseur goes, I served as an Übermittlungspioneer, not a Schuetze, so I guess that makes you right in your own nasty way.

    • 回复: @Carolyn Yeager
  190. Alfred 说:
    @sb

    Isn’t one of the kids in the photo Andy Murray the tennis player ?

    I never heard of Andy Murray. I think all the kids in to photo were shot and killed in the Dunblane false flag. Anyone who thinks that psychologists and hypnotists working for the British government cannot program a person to do such a thing has no idea about the progress that has been made in this “science”.

    I suspect that a lot of this knowledge was known to the ancients and then repeatedly forgotten and then rediscovered.

    Before the Iranian Revolution, I was invited to a birthday party for a kid from a well-known family. One of the “uncles” of the kid was high up in the SAVAK – Iran’s then security services that was MOSSAD trained. This guy was on the intelligence side. A nice man. He did not electrocute people or anything like that – at least I didn’t think so. He brought a hypnotist with him. The hypnotist did amazing things to adults on the stage. One of his tricks was to return the person hypnotised to a “normal” state. An hour or so later, this person would do things that he was programmed to do when triggered in some way. He was really little more than a human robot.

    The hypnotist did not use any tools to achieve his objective. He seemed to be speaking normally. He did not wave this hands about or anything like that. If he had told the person hypnotised to suffocate his own child, it would have been done. 🙁

  191. Iris 说:
    @Alfred

    Merck abandoned its work on a vaccine – after getting \$300+m from US government. They have made an honest statement.

    France’s Pasteur Institute has done the same and abandoned their work on getting a vaccine.

    The Pasteur Institute (French: Institut Pasteur) is a French non-profit private foundation dedicated to the study of biology, micro-organisms, diseases, and vaccines. It is an institution highly-respected by doctors worldwide; it has an excellent reputation and has never been caught in any scandal or conflict of interest.

    it is very significant that the Pasteur Institute has abandoned research.
    A relative of mine, a specialist doctor who treats Covid elderly patients but refuses to have the ARN-based vaccine, considers that the underlying explanation is that researchers must have concluded that the Covid vaccines are barely efficient and not worth the research effort.

    https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/vaccin-contre-le-covid-19-l-institut-pasteur-et-le-laboratoire-merck-renoncent_4272203.html

  192. aspnaz 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    merely pointing at charts and numbers

    It’s called science, look it up one day.

    • 回复: @Ray Caruso
  193. Michael888 说:

    While I have no reason to believe that Covid-19 is not real, I take exception to the media spin that “Everyone is in danger!” Covid-19 is a serious disease of the elderly (95% of deaths globally are over age 60, the other 5% almost all having known serious medical conditions). The median age of victims is 82, 15% of those over 80 die if infected (hospitalized flu patients die at 6-10%, and while also hitting mostly the elderly, flu kills children and all ages). Covid-19 should be looked at more like Alzheimer’s, the closest demographic.
    One need only look at the 4800 crewmen on the SS Theodore Roosevelt, and the 59,000 foreign construction workers infected in Singapore by Covid-19 to realize this is only a problem for the Elderly and other vulnerable sick. Only one (and epileptic who hit his head) died in these infected cohorts.
    Thinking a bit further, we know 2.2 million elderly (over age 65) die each year in the US, mostly from cardiovascular, cancer, flu/pneumonia and Alzheimer’s). Of the 450,000 in the US dead from Covid-19, 22,500 (the other 5%) are expected to be under age 60, most with renal failure, uncontrolled diabetes, hypertension, and asthma, and cancer and autoimmune diseases. So while Covid-19 is obviously deadly if you are in the elderly and sickly groups, for the vast majority of Americans Covid-19 is asymptomatic, a common cold or a mild flu. Sadly the vast majority of REAL victims would have died over the next three years anyway; epidemiologists call this “harvesting” by the horrible diseases of the aged. The “Twindemic” never really materialized because the old people can only be killed once. For all the jabbering about THE CHILDREN (Covid-19 is almost the only infectious disease where the young are not the most affected), the focus from the start should have been on protecting the Elderly (no effort there?), and to a small extent, the fact noted that most deaths are from the 2.2 million who die each year anyway. We sure hear that argument when someone dies from the vaccine; “They were old; this is not unexpected”, which should have been the mantra from the start of the pandemic.
    Obviously the lockdowns (originally “to flatten the curve” and avoid overwhelming hospitals) quickly turned many Governors (who control Public Health in the US) into fascist dictators. Clearly there’s another agenda at work, distinct from Public Health (which Asian countries did a great job with by keeping the virus out of their countries or to an easily managed trickle, rather than screaming “Racist!” and “Hug a Chinaman!” and allowing the virus to become community spread.)

    • 同意: Alfred
    • 谢谢: Mark G.
  194. aspnaz 说:

    I saw a similar report to this about four months ago on Medium. It too showed that there is a remarkable correlation between lockdown and deaths. Death data in western countries is fairly accurate as the government likes to keep track of its people. How long that will last, who knows.

    The bottom line is that anybody who did maths at o-level should be able to understand death statistics. That means that most of us are qualified to assess the UK’s death statistics, you do not have to have a PhD. People need to learn to use their own education to help them figure out the current hoax.

    The China virus is a scam but I still do not know why they are trying to destroy modern civilisation. The scary thing is that the participants include all countries, from the USA of madness to the CCP land of apartheid to the European land of corruption, to the UK fuck up where the likes of Tony Blair still get air time.

    Great article, well presented, good to use UK government stats to demonstrate their corruption, or for those still hiding from reality, their mistakes.

    • 回复: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  195. Methink this article is a little useless. You can`t compare a few months against an average of a decade or even worst half of a decade. At minimum you have to show the min-max. values of comparable periods.

    Further is it necessary to show the age distribution and the deviation in years before an after. There are years with lesser and years with higher death rates in the population.

    At third the Nov-Dec. period is cutted off. Why? This is the flu period and the graph is useless without.

    Please do your homework and come back with not or better manipulated data.

  196. This video is quite funny: “GUESS WHO IS LIVING THROUGH THE BIGGEST PSY-OP IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.”



    视频链接

    • 回复: @daniel le mouche
  197. saggy 说:
    @Iris

    More likely than not, the original PMC did indeed die in a car accident and was replaced by a double for economic and financial reasons, because of the weight of British pop music in Britain’s GDP at the time

    Thanks for clearing that up ! And thanks to Kollerstrom for exposing the ruse. And now he’s onto the covid hoax,. Great !

    • 谢谢: Iris
  198. @Magic Dirt

    “doesn’t this seem so to YOU?” is a perfectly valid question.

  199. @Schuetze

    You have some very strange views for a German, but then you say you don’t believe in the German Reich anyway. You prefer that it remained separate, weak states. I knew there was something odd about you. Not to say there hasn’t always been a share of Germans like yourself, many of them become traitors. Still, I appreciate your personal information.

    • 回复: @Schuetze
  200. Ray Caruso 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    Congratulations! Yours is the least logical, least persuasive, least insightful, least self-aware, and most contemptible post I have ever seen in any comments section anywhere. It’s a Gettysburg address of fallacy and sheer stupidity.

  201. Ray Caruso 说:
    @aspnaz

    Magic Dirt doesn’t understand charts, so he thinks that makes them invalid.

    • 回复: @Marckus
  202. Ray Caruso 说:
    @Dumbo

    COVID-19 will never be over until Zioglobohomo is over. Why should it? They are richer than ever, they still have their French Laundry dinner parties, they still fly on their private jets (St. Barth’s and Gstaad being now delightfully uncrowded), and they still get to have their orgies, whether of the heterosexual, homosexual, or pedophiliac variety. Things are better than ever for them, so they will stay as they are.

  203. @Derer

    The Covid-19 project goes WAY beyond the the money. Sure, many of the big players will make fortunes on the scam but the overall objective is to change the nature of society and indeed humanity itself.

  204. scamDemic 说:

    After being de-platformed 3 times from YouTube, and having more than 50 videos removed, I have now switched to Rumble and just posted my first video. The first video addresses the origin of COVID-19. I think this is an important subject. The reason I made this video, is because I find that people are asking the wrong questions. Enjoy

    https://rumble.com/vdffdl-ep.-1-the-root-of-the-evil-2bad.html

  205. geokat62 说:
    @Sirius

    A dictionary definition of pandemic (Colliers dictionary):

    That definition must have been updated sometime after 2009.

    摘录自 2009年的猪流感恐慌:

    根据规定,当一种新病毒在世界多个地区不受控制地传播时,第6阶段便开始生效。 法规对这种疾病的严重性没有任何规定。

    In fact, the vast majority of experts on epidemics automatically associate the term “pandemic” with truly aggressive viruses. On the WHO Web site, the answer to the question “What is a pandemic?” included mention of “an enormous number of deaths and cases of the disease” — until May 4, 2009. That was when a CNN reporter pointed out the discrepancy between this description and the generally mild course of the swine flu. The language was promptly removed…

    11年2009月XNUMX日的情况与这些描述不符。 批评者已经在嘲讽地询问世卫组织是否有任何计划宣布最近一次普通感冒大流行。 “有时候我们中有些人认为世卫组织代表世界歇斯底里组织,”加拿大安大略省前首席医疗官理查德·沙巴斯(Richard Schabas)说。

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/reconstruction-of-a-mass-hysteria-the-swine-flu-panic-of-2009-a-682613-amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

  206. Schuetze 说:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I was born in the US and emigrated to Europe 35 years ago. I speak fluent German and some French and Spanish. I have lived in Europe longer than I did in the US. I have been told by European cousins that I will always be an American in their eyes.

    I think your understanding of “Germans” is quite naive. There is good reason why most of the EU consider Germans to be nearly as arrogant as jews and many of them would have to think long and hard whether a government dominated by jews was worse than the one they have which is dominated by Germans.

    Speaking from my personal knowledge, in the Costa del Sol there are many different communities of northern European immigrants, but the two strongest are the Brits and the Germans. I am certain that this also applies to Tuscany, Provence and the Greek islands. These two communities are like oil and water and just don’t mix. Whereas the Brits can be loud and obnoxious, the Germans are arrogant and tightfisted, even bordering on cheapskates. They are also far more clannish than the Brits and likely to rationalize their often selfish behaviour.

    I am telling you this because you, and many other Americans, seem to believe Germans really are some kind of master race, partly because of the grave injustices that were perpetrated on them, but in fact it is not nearly that cut and dried. Of course there are also strong regional differences between Germans, and many Bavarians would strongly object to being lumped together with Northern Prussians.

    • 同意: GomezAdddams
    • 回复: @Carolyn Yeager
  207. GeeBee 说:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Lyrics from the 1969 King Crimson number ‘Epitaph’ (and it turns out I’m wrong – neither Sinfield nor Fripp were of the faith”!)

  208. GeeBee 说:
    @Dnought

    So it appears, Thanks for the correction. (I saw them live twice – at Leeds Town Hall in 1971 or thereabouts, and a couple of years later at York University)

  209. blaqua 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    No, Covid-19 has been isolated. The info on the sites I mentioned is accurate and reliable.

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  210. @Magic Dirt

    “Your comments really read as bleak and mentally ill more than anything. Certainly not persuasive.

    Good luck to you and be well.”

    Your writing style labels you as a troll.

    • 同意: acementhead
  211. Anonymous[888]• 免责声明 说:
    @Schuetze

    If Jews are a conniving tight-knit group then how come Israel was the first to vaccinate their population with the Pfizzer mRNA vaccine with major safety issues? The Israeli jews are not made aware of the covid hoax?

    • 回复: @Schuetze
    , @Robjil
  212. @Greg S.

    @Greg S.,

    “But I’m a bit torn about it because a species so fucking stupid to fall for such a thing kind of deserves to be enslaved, no?”

    The people are not stupid. They have been brainwashed.

    Read Chapter 6 (12 pages) of Mein Kampf to learn about the incredible power of this “spiritual weapon” called war propaganda, which can lead to “results that are almost beyond our understanding”.

    阅读并哭泣。

    • 同意: GeeBee
  213. Schuetze 说:
    @Anonymous

    That is a very valid point, and I have been pondering over it for a long time. A few random thoughts:

    – Russia (Kazaria north) appears to also have a vaccine called “sputnik” and has “innoculated” many millions of people. This “vaccine” apparently is not mRNA. Russia also was marketing this vaccine months sooner than all of the western Military Pharma Industrial Complex. How could this be? I think Putin and his Ashkenazi Luddowitz pals faked the entire vaccine in order to short circuit the entire Covid hoax.
    – News about overflowing hospitals and hundrends of millions of dead in Africa, South America and South East Asia have diassappeared from the radar. How can this be?
    – China punked the entire planet with its Wuhan “lockdown”. Remember the welded shut apartments? A few months later China punked the entire planet with video clips of Chinese in Wuhan partying like it was 1999.
    – All the contradictory news reports about each “variant” of vaccine and its lethality and efficacy
    – All the lies and moving targets concerting PCR tests and the number of cycles and false positives and negatives
    – In the Holodomor and during the Red Army destruction of Eastern Europe, far more jews were killed by other jews than were ever harmed by “Nazi’s” or “Russian Communists”
    – Apparently Israel is locked down tighter than a drum with all its borders closed, yet all the Kazarian politicians and hedgefund owners in the US seem to have no problem flying around the planet in their private jets, including to Israel. Pence and Kushner are supposedly in Israel after having left the US shortly after the “insurrection”.

    To summarize, I haven’t a clue what is happening in Israel, but I certainly don’t believe a single word that the heeb-media claims.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  214. Robjil 说:
    @Anonymous

    谁知道?

    They could have been given a placebo.

    The same nation that gave us nine eleven.

    Mossad’s motto is ” By Deception we wage war”.

    Thus, Who knows?

  215. Fox 说:
    @Sirius

    Then why is the common cold or the common flu not treated as a pandemic?
    “Pandemic” conjures up the image of a wide-spread, fatal, rapidly spreading infection, such as the Black Death in the Middle Ages. Hence using this notion in a case that can be formally included in a definition of Pandemic, but is playing on people’s fears based on what they imagine a pandemic to be is insincere and points towards a purposeful action. I, too, know only of second and third hand cases of a covid infection from people I know and of no deaths. A few years ago I was in New Orleans and learned about a cholera outbreak there in the early 19th century. Pictures of hearses and carts laden with corpses, criss-crossing downtown New Orleans to pick up the dead everywhere and every day are seared in my mind. That’s more like what I imagine a pandemic would be like.
    Normally, fears should be dispersed or allayed by the actions of the authorities, not fueled.
    That’s called stirring up a panic. And that is done with an intention in mind.

    • 同意: Robjil, Carolyn Yeager
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @JM
  216. Tetra 说:
    @ThereisaGod

    5G is not dangerous beyond having a higher bandwidth for better tracking/positioning tools. It’s not making people sick and there’s hardly any 5G coverage anyways.

  217. By-tor 说:
    @augusto

    Personally, I have only worn a bandana for maybe 10-12 minutes in 10 months and that was at one orthopedic practice inside a large hospital last summer where the covidiot female receptionists demanded that I ‘comply with the governor’s mask mandate’, or they were going call hospital security forcing me to leave. I left my nose exposed, because I could not breath normally otherwise. Other than that one time, I do not don superstitious face coverings in public anywhere. Oxygen-inhibiting dust masks are not medical devices and are not manufactured for that purpose. Covid-19 is a political ruse.

    • 同意: acementhead
  218. @St-Germain

    How many deaths are you predicting?

    Deaths is entirely the wrong metric(way of measuring) to judge the impact of covid. The only sensible way is Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost. QALY lost can measure the non-fatal impact as well as the fatal. The criminals running this fraud refuse to look at QALY because by using that metric it would show without doubt that the Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost due to the “lockdowns” and economic destruction would be probably at least two orders of magnitude more than doing nothing except leaving people to work things out for themselves.

    • 同意: Alfred
  219. @Ron Unz

    Ron, you must know that, whatever your initial intuition of the probabilities about that apparent early knowledge ny one of the organs of intelligence, innocent explanations were possible. And now, surely, the evidence has been heavily rebalanced by the failure of China to promote, other than very unofficially and indirectly, the truth as it must know it if your thesis is correct. What an I missing?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  220. Pross 说:

    A week before lockdown:

    “As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.
    四个国家的公共卫生HCID组在4年2020月提出了一项临时建议,将COVID-19归类为HCID。 这是基于对英国HCID关于病毒和疾病的标准的考虑,以及在爆发早期可获得的信息。 现在,人们对COVID-19有了更多的了解,英国的公共卫生机构已经根据英国的HCID标准审查了有关COVID-19的最新信息。 他们确定现在有几个功能已更改; 尤其是,可以获得更多有关死亡率的信息(总体较低),并且现在人们对临床的认识越来越高,对实验室的检测又更加具体和敏感,并且其可用性不断提高。
    危险病原体咨询委员会(ACDP)也认为COVID-19不应再被归类为HCID。”

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid?fbclid=IwAR0K9JQDtW5p1CbBWsmujsVH27HshoaVV6mroNmzYFvQmshi94TNqZDb-Yw

    • 谢谢: Sean
  221. @Fox

    No doubt you know best how you allow the word “pandemic” to be used at your breakfast table but, when you conjure up references to the Black Death you are at risk of someone actually Googling “what is a pandemic” and exposing your idiosyncrasy.

    • 回复: @Fox
  222. @Ron Unz

    Hi, Ron. So, I thought I would use your comments as an opportunity to organize my thoughts on this “Global Pandemic.” To put my cards on the table, I have been in the so-called Flu Hoaxer camp sense April of 2020, although I would rather call it the No Pandemic camp, whatever the actual truth regarding the specific Sars-Cov-2 virus. As an aside, I am a regular reader of Mr. Wang Lin of Lagos’ DS website, and perhaps not surprisingly, the evolution of my thinking on the issue tracks with Andrew’s very closely.

    Back in March of 2020, under one of Mr. Barrett’s posts, I laid out what appeared to be the competing hypotheses regarding The Chan phenomenon:

    Competing hypotheses on the Chan Question:

    1) 官方故事:COVID19 于 12 年 19 月下旬起源于武汉的“湿”海鲜/异国动物市场,由于专制的掩盖而开始在中国传播,然后传播到其他东亚国家,最终传播到西方,原因是错误。

    2) Pro-Empire conspiracy theory: COVID19 was invented by the Chinese as a bioweapon and accidentally/intentionally leaked into the Chinese population. Contagion exacerbated by PRC authoritarian state and initial cover ups. The West is now having to deal with the “Chinese Virus.”

    3)反帝国阴谋论:COVID19是帝国生产的一种用于攻击帝国敌人的生物武器。

    A. 出现在西方是由于意外/无能。

    B. 西方的“出现”是有意的,是“计划”的一部分。

    i) The “appearance” in the West or at least the US is a lie or intentionally being blown out of proportion.

    ii) 西方的表象是真实的,是严重的,内部混乱是一个“机会”。

    4) 废话理论:COVID19 只是一种严重的流感,它会杀死大多数老年人和患有歇斯底里的媒体以寻求关注或其他东西的预先存在的疾病的人。

    https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/9-11-truth-coronavirus-truth-zionist-hysteria-msm-lockdown-war-on-the-horizon/?showcomments#comment-3783726

    It appears that you are in the point 3 camp, and probably the point 3A, camp: a bioweapon attack on Washington’s geopolitical rivals with unintended blowback. The Flu Hoaxers would generally be in the point 4 camp. However, it is important to consider that there are intermediate possibilities, point 3Bi, for example. It certainly seems quite suspicious that Iran appears to have been hard hit by this illness and soon after the fiasco with the martyred general, and that the PRC was hit around the time of its troubles with the Hong Kong color revolution. However, as I don’t live in either of those countries, I cannot verify what life is like on the ground there. However, when it comes to my life here in the US, I would not describe what I have been living in as a pandemic, but as a scamdemic. So, without further ado…

    [更多]

    Mario’s Case for No Pandemic:

    Let’s consider the following pieces of information:

    1) In March, the Italian government published perhaps the first study of COVID19 deaths: average age of 80 and 98% with one or more serious comorbidities . https://www.docdroid.net/TLJtNbJ/report-covid-2019-17-marzo-v2-pdf

    2) In the spring of 2020, Iceland found that half of those who test positive for Sars-cov-2 are without symptoms. https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/half-of-coronavirus-patients-in-iceland-are-symptom-free-study/

    3) Replicating, to some degree, the findings of the Iceland, were the tests conducted on those “stranded” on the Diamond Princess cruise ship. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-80-percent-cases-are-mild-2020-2?op=1

    4) The top method of testing, Kerry Mullis’ RT PCR, is, according to Mullis and apparently the advice on the testing kits, not to be used as a diagnostic tool. When run at sufficiently high amplification cycles it will generally find everyone to be positive for anything.

    5) Contradicting the official story line regarding the Wuhan “origins” is yet another study out of Italy that found that blood samples from summer of 2019 tested positive for Sars-cov-2 antibodies. The Reuters article I am citing states that the authors say this doesn’t contradict the Wuhan origin story, but umm…yeah whatever (why would they feel the need to say that?) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-china-idUSKBN27Z2QG

    6) Deborah Birx, the head of the Trump coronavirus task force, advised health professionals to be very liberal with COVID19 diagnoses, and this appears to be incentivized financially by the CARES act. https://www.westernjournal.com/dr-birx-govt-counting-death-anyone-coronavirus-covid-19-death-regardless-conditions/

    The above points have to make one ask: what kind of rational public health response consists of using a flawed method to test completely healthy individuals, ritually report “pandemic” case numbers and deaths without any context or details, engages in lockdown policies when counter examples (Sweden, Netherlands) have demonstrated that they are of little help, while financially incentivizing hospitals to report as many Pandemic deaths as possible, while massively censoring any contradictory information on the social media platforms?

    I recently asked a friend of mine who is a believer of sorts: if the media wasn’t reporting this stuff and we didn’t have the lockdowns, would you believe you were living in a pandemic? Answer: No!

    In short, any bioweapon hypothesis regarding events in Iran or China has to also contend with the facts that indicate that in the West this pandemic is largely a forced narrative built on a foundation of sand.

    Furthermore, it is interesting that although the Chinese seem to have indicated that they thought this was a bioweapon attack, they seem to have stopped massive testing way back in March of 2020. Having plotted the data from WHO “situation reports” as part of a stock trading hobby it is clear that at around 80,000 cases the Chinese just stopped, as the numbers flat lined. Interestingly, it was right around that time (week of Mardi Gras, 2020) that Europe and the US starting their massive testing regimes. It’s almost as if they said, we can’t let the Chinese end this now.

    So, in my view, we have elements of a means and opportunity case for a pandemic hoax. What, however, might the motive be? Here I will have to delve into speculation, but maybe what we are experiencing here is a case of a Plan B.

    What about this: we live in world of 7 billion people, and finite resources. On top of this, the US is a declining empire, living on borrowed time and money. Twenty years ago the US launched a series of wars aimed at securing the US empire for the 21st century, a series of wars consisting of installing client regimes on the massive lakes of Middle East oil and keeping world resources on the dollar. The aim was to have a energy and dollar veto on Chinese global ambitions. But the wars (seven in five years) took way too long and hit major road blocks (insurgencies, Russia intervention, etc.) By the time the Trump admin wanted to go after Iran, the window of opportunity had closed: China and Russia were too strong, Iran had means of retaliating. Enter Plan B: a massive collapse of the global economy. Perhaps the elites decided, we cannot address the fundamental issue anymore via military confrontation due to mutually assured destruction, so what now? Let’s unite together and push the costs onto our own “peasants.” Plan A was to keep one’s nation rich at the expense of other nations. Plan B is to keep the global elite rich at the expense of the global peasantry.

    • 谢谢: Majority of One
  223. @aspnaz

    Calling it the ‘China virus’ is akin, in my opinion, to calling the Kansas ‘flu of 1918 the ‘Spanish’ Flu. I prefer the ‘Fort Detrick virus’ myself.

  224. Anon[223]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    罗恩
    The evidence you have is pretty persuasive. I really can’t judge the quality of mainstream sources, especially the Israel one, which I think also ran a piece stating that aliens that contact with Israel and Donald Trump.
    However, there are a few flaws with this theory. While they certainly do not prove your theory wrong, I am curious what possible explanations for this.

    First, as everyone knows, the virus doubles very quickly early on, especially when faced with a low starting base(high % of possible people to infect) and no public health response. If the virus spread during the Wuhan games in October 19th, with the first lockdown in January 23rd. That is around 100 days of the virus having been in China, with no one taking any measures, personal or private to stop it. Given that the virus doubles very quickly, there should have been millions of cases at that point, with the Chinese government should have learned about this virus in November itself(symptoms would have manifested). Hell, if we use the doubling time that America had, there would have been easily been nearly 10 million cases at that point, especially considering China’s population density.

    Second, I really doubt that the US government would have circulated information implicating itself, much less have anyone tell ABC news. Additionally according to the ABC article, the US government sent this data to many European countries, including its NATO allies, including Turkey/Hungary/Czech Republic, those three of which have strong relations with China. Why didn’t they, or any of the 30 NATO nations inform China of a deadly virus operating in China’s borders? China is the largest or second largest economy in the world, why would you not get on it’s good side? Especially since it is very likely we nearly toppled Erdogan in that coup attempt, I would think the Turkey would have certainly said something. Your theory requires all 30 NATO nations knowing of a deadly disease operating in China, yet none of them doing anything about it. You’ve argued that Trump was unaware, especially due to Deep State subversion, but all 30 NATO nations are subverted?

    Third, as many commentators have noted, especially Razib Khan, there is much evidence that coronavirus is endemic to East Asia, with prior outbreaks have occurred there historically. While that does not mean that the East Asians are genetically immune or any nonsense(evidence says they are certainly not), it does mean that there is a chance that the virus would have less of an effect than some other contagion. That is like trying to take out the Europeans with a virus strain that they have historically dealt with, which very stupid and not likely to work.

    Fourth, as many of your columnists have pointed out, one of the reasons that America’s elites are so arrogant with China is because of their conception of viewing economic terms in nominal, of which the US has a massive lead over China, rather than PPP. Why would they be concerned with a country with more than 6x the US workforce, yet a smaller economy? From a soft and hard power perspective, combined with the strength of our domestic media, it seems ridiculous that the US regime was in any risk of China. If people realized what the US had done, then all of their credibility and power would have dissipated overnight, for taking down a country they were already ahead of. The Neocons are degenerate people, but they did their Iraq War influence well from the general public. This would be sloppy, even for them.

    Those are my questions and reasons. Again, I don’t understand the veracity of different mainstream sources, but those are at least four reasons why I am somewhat skeptical of the COVID theory you have. You have a good argument, and I have always admired your writing, even though I may not agree with it always.

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    , @Ron Unz
    , @Brás Cubas
  225. @Patric

    I’m not at all sure what you are not agreeing with. Do you not recognise the imperative everywhere for politicians to hold on to their jobs by avoiding blame for anything that might seriously upset people? Accordingly, is it not true that America is an outlier in not having a system of health care which clearly locates the blame for there not being adequate ICUs etc.?

  226. Fox 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You know best what you are talking about, much better than I or anyone else. That would be called “living in a bubble” – whether by inclination or being pushed into it, it does not matter.

  227. Nitram 说:

    How can I get this article onto Facebook, please, who have apparently banned it?

  228. Nitram 说:

    Why has this article been banned from Facebook?

  229. Anon[223]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    A fifth reason I just thought about is with the Israel piece that you mentioned above. As everyone knows, the Neocons in America have strong connections to Israel, with a high likelihood that they coordinate policies with the Israel Government. If the Neocons wanted to handicap China and cement the highly pro-Israel US country as number 1, why would the Israel government allow the dissemination of a report on their newspaper that would undermine the United States’ credibility?
    Unlike America, where Trump had no control over his own government, the Israel government seems very much in control. If I was using my controlled forces in another country to sabotage someone else, I would not want to disseminate anything implicating my ideological forces. The fact that the Israeli government hasn’t taken that report down indicated they think that it is a complete joke of a notion.

    Also, like my point 4 says, the US was clearly seen as the superior country before COVID, especially when you consider the fact that China has 6x the workforce yet a smaller nominal GDP, which is the metric that most countries use when evaluating and comparing with each other including the PRC government’s favored metric. There was clearly no upside to sabotaging China, especially when the Chinese are very favorable to Israel, who the Neocons strongly support. Indeed, as many news organizations point out, Israel is the most popular foreign country on Weibo: https://qz.com/1290584/israels-very-popular-on-weibo-thanks-to-chinas-online-islamophobia/

    Another elaboration of my point 1:
    As I mentioned there was roughly a 100 day period from when the Virus would have entered China in your theory, during the Wuhan games, to when the Chinese government instituted the first lockdown. In America, the first virus cases began circulating in January itself, and 100 days later in late March, early April, we were already at 2000 deaths a day or so, and that was with *一些* if marginal policy responses, especially in your state of California. China’s *全部的* deaths was around 4,600 people.

    So, if China had a similar time span of doing absolutely nothing, from the Wuhan games to the first lockdown, why didn’t China, with a larger population density, had a much lower final caseload and total deaths than America did in a *二* day period at the 100 day mark?

    The only explanation for such a discrepancy is either your theory is wrong, that the virus didn’t appear during Wuhan games, or that the Chinese have some sort of immunity to COVID that the other races of the world lack, which then would make them vastly more suspect than the United States.

    Frankly, my guess is that the coronavirus is endemic to East Asia, and as such, them and other related people will naturally do a better job resisting the disease compared to other groups. There was certainly no bioweapon, and it was a naturally reoccurring endemic. But then again, that is my personal view and it can certainly can be wrong.

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  230. @Magic Dirt

    I agree with you about Kollerstrom’s logical fallacy. However, where I live there is more than adequate data to demonstrate that the lockdowns have likely caused significant increased mortality, and course of disease caused by the virus has not.
    Statistics on weekly mortality from Stats Canada shows that in Alberta there has been a steady rise in weekly mortality year-on-year from 2019 rates beginning in March, when the restrictions were announced, in the population that is under age 45, among whom there has been less than a “Covid death” per week. The total, as of the end of October, entailed hundreds of excess deaths in this age group against 26 Covid “deaths”.
    自限制措施实施以来,90 岁以上年龄组(其中超过 3% 的 Covid 死亡发生)的人每周死亡率同比增加 12% 至 45%。 3 月份,U-65 死亡人数的增幅从约 XNUMX% 稳步上升至 XNUMX%。
    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310076801
    SARS CoV-2 很可能存在,但几乎没有证据表明它的死亡率明显高于以前的季节性传染性呼吸道疾病,而且有重要证据表明预防性的社会经济限制正在杀死人。

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  231. 4Truth 说:
    @Sirius

    Look, I personally know at least twenty people who caught Covid.

    20 people? Yeah, I kind of think you’re lying.

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  232. @Schuetze

    Thanks for sharing this. It clearly says you’ve become a European rather than a German … an example of EU success. You speak of your “European cousins” and find a lot of fault with German behavior compared to non-Germans.

    However, it’s music to my ears to hear you say “most of the EU consider Germans to be nearly as arrogant as jews,” and “arrogant and tightfisted, even bordering on cheapskates. They are also far more clannish than the Brits and likely to rationalize their often selfish behaviour.” That tells me they’re sticking to their Germanness despite the attempts to turn them into approved look-alike, act-alike “Europeans.” I especially like the clannish behavior. Means there’s still hope for their survival.

    I don’t think, and have never thought or said, that Germans are a master race. Yet you say that I “seem to believe it.” What is your evidence? Because I am positive about Germans while you seem to dislike them? You even say “the grave injustices that were perpetrated on them” are “in fact not nearly that cut and dried.” Really? What are you referring to? And there is your odd desire to divide Germans into regional and religious factions. Have you seen the articles on my site, https://carolynyeager.net/hostility-towards-germans? You fit the profile.

    Your saying “My father’s family came from Thurgau, my mother’s family from Tübingen” doesn’t indicate when. It’s like me saying my mother’s family came from Bauerbach, even though it was 5-6 generations back from me. You’re an American with German ancestry whose story is that you moved to Germany 35 years ago. Maybe for a job? Not surprising you have grandkids who were born there, who naturally speak German and eat Strawberry torte. But you’re strangely hostile to German history, appearing as a typical modern “European.” Actually, you appear to me as someone who think more like an American.

    • 谢谢: Fox
  233. Barcelona Spain March 2019 Milan Italy September 2019 Milan again November 2019 Brazil November 2019 and Belgium-France Novmber 2019 ———–agnet Mink???

  234. @Nitram

    Why? Because that institution is properly described as Farcebook.

  235. @Anon

    I am sorry you are a truly anonymous anon as I would like to find your analytical abilities at work in other threads. Just one quibble from my experience of life and considering how many blunders are committed by high IQ Israelis. Maybe it is just that there are far too many low IQ Israelis who need employment apart from sniping at Arab civilians. But maybe it is just the chaotic state of Israeli politics and government which, for example, allowed eye-off-the- ball stupidities like shooting up the Turkish Gaza-blockade-defying yacht instead of towing it 100 miles away. I think Kissinger put his finger on such stupid lack of attention when he said “all Israeli politics is domestic”.

  236. @Mario Partisan

    Very impressive, but with time and brain available can’t you do something useful like calculating the least energy needed from black holes colliding to produce detectable gravity waves, or maybe calculating when QE will have reached the bottom of the barrel or….😎

  237. @Rufus Clyde

    From what you say a so far unanswered, indeed I think unasked, question arises. What existing morbities of mind or body may characterise those apparently killed by the lockdowns?

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  238. Ron Unz 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    And now, surely, the evidence has been heavily rebalanced by the failure of China to promote, other than very unofficially and indirectly, the truth as it must know it if your thesis is correct. What an I missing?

    Look, the international media/propaganda is totally under American control. If China made such accusations without hard proof, they would be ferociously attacked and demonized as deranged lunatics. After all, for decades it’s been known that the alleged Tiananmen Square Massacre was just a media hoax, but 99% of Americans and other Westerners will believe in it.

    Anyway, at least a couple of million Americans and Europeans will die from Covid-19 and our economies and societies have been wrecked, so we’ve already been punished for our attack. Meanwhile, the Chinese are doing fine.

    Also, it’s not absolutely sure that the Chinese are even aware of the information I’ve uncovered since almost nobody else in the world is. For example, a few months ago Quillette ran an exceptionally exhaustive 31,000 word analysis on the Chinese origins of Covid-19, the longest and most detailed discussion published anywhere, but when I contacted the author, he was absolutely shocked at what I’d found back in April:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/31000-words-missing-from-the-atlantic-and-the-new-york-times-sunday-magazine/

    If he wasn’t aware of my findings, can we really be sure that the Chinese are?

    Based upon many of your comments, you seem to watch a lot of TV, and get much of your understanding of current events and history from that source. I suspect that if some MSM outlet did a high-productive-values TV documentary merely summarizing my simple analysis, you and almost everyone else would immediately be 100% sure that my theory was obviously correct.

  239. Ron Unz 说:
    @Mario Partisan

    So, I thought I would use your comments as an opportunity to organize my thoughts on this “Global Pandemic.”…

    3)反帝国阴谋论:COVID19是帝国生产的一种用于攻击帝国敌人的生物武器。

    A. 出现在西方是由于意外/无能。...

    Thanks for your very useful and comprehensive summary of the different possibilities…

    It appears that you are in the point 3 camp, and probably the point 3A, camp: a bioweapon attack on Washington’s geopolitical rivals with unintended blowback.

    Exactly, I’m very solidly in the 3A category, and have been for almost a year now.

    However, when it comes to my life here in the US, I would not describe what I have been living in as a pandemic, but as a scamdemic. So, without further ado…Mario’s Case for No Pandemic:

    Well, as far as I can tell, the evidence of an actual global Covid-19 epidemic seems overwhelming.

    Based upon all the studies that have been done, as summarized and reported by e.g. the WSJ, Covid-19 seems to have an average fatality in the 0.5%-1.0% range, but with a gigantic age-skew. For example, I think victims over 60% are something like 100x as likely as those under 40.

    Since Covid-19 deaths are substantially impacted by both over- and under-reporting, I think the most solid data to use is “excess deaths.” from previous years, and these indicate a huge epidemic, both in the US and elsewhere. For example, a big WSJ article from a couple of weeks ago had this quote suggesting that our Covid-19 deaths may be 70% higher than the official total:

    根据约翰·霍普金斯大学(Johns Hopkins University)的数据,仅在美国,疾病控制与预防中心(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)的数据显示,到475,000月初,就有281,000多例超额死亡,这一时间范围还包括与Covid-19相关的约XNUMX例死亡。

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-covid-19-death-toll-is-even-worse-than-it-looks-11610636840

    If that’s correct, we may already be well above 700,000 fatalities, and given the slow vaccination efforts, will probably soon break a million deaths. A million American deaths seems like a pretty big deal to me, though that’s obviously a matter of personal opinion. And without strong public health measures, including some combination of masking/distancing/lockdowns, the extremely-contagious disease would have overwhelmed the entire country, and we’d probably have at least a couple of million deaths or more.

    One reason I’m *极其* skeptical of the Hoax Hypothesis is that I find it pretty doubtful that the US, China, Russia, Israel, Iran, and every other major country in the world would all be part of the same “conspiracy.” In fact, Trump—who’s just an ignorant buffoon—was about the only major world leader who spent months claiming it wasn’t a serious problem…until he admitted he was wrong!

    Here are a couple of nice FT graphs from last April showing the “excess death” spikes, with the NYT and lots of other publications having produced many more recent ones:

    Just eyeballing those charts, I’d say, Gee, if I didn’t know any better, I’d think there’s some dangerous disease epidemic in those locations. Either that, or the Venusians are playing a practical joke on all of us…

    As far as I can tell, the MSM version of the Covid-19 story is almost entirely correct, and totally consistent with the situation in California that I’ve been reading about in my local newspapers.

  240. Ron Unz 说:
    @Anon

    First, as everyone knows, the virus doubles very quickly early on, especially when faced with a low starting base(high % of possible people to infect) and no public health response. If the virus spread during the Wuhan games in October 19th

    Actually, based upon the history of the Wuhan outbreak, the conventional MSM narrative is that Patient Zero was infected in late October or early November. This seems extremely consistent with the Wuhan Military Games being the possible vector, since they ended on October 27th. Anyway, under the hypothesis that the 300 American military officers participating were used as the cover to introduce a couple of operatives, it’s perfectly possible that they might have released the disease a few days after the games ended.

    Second, I really doubt that the US government would have circulated information implicating itself, much less have anyone tell ABC news.

    The biowarfare attack was very likely an operation by rogue elements of the American national security apparatus, with only a relatively small group being aware of the facts. (I think there’s a 0% chance that Trump authorized it, making it “rogue” by definition.) However, to minimize the risk of potential blowback, they might have then gotten the word of the outbreak to the DIA, probably by fabricating some sort of intelligence “leak.” So the DIA officers who produced the report were 100% sincere, and didn’t realize the enormous implications of what they’d revealed to ABC News. Same for Israeli intelligence. Here’s my speculative scenario of what happened:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/31000-words-missing-from-the-atlantic-and-the-new-york-times-sunday-magazine/#addendum-the-hypothetical-scenario-of-the-covid-19-outbreak

    Why didn’t they, or any of the 30 NATO nations inform China of a deadly virus operating in China’s borders? China is the largest or second largest economy in the world, why would you not get on it’s good side?

    Obviously, because they all assumed that the Chinese were totally aware of it. How could the Chinese government *不是* be aware of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in a city of 11 million? It’s a little like Western intelligence learning of the Chernobyl disaster, certainly after the USSR knew about it, but before they’d admitted it to the world. Only months later did it come out that the Chinese were *不是* aware in November, and indeed couldn’t possibly have been. Nobody in the world would have been aware at that point…except the people responsible.

    Fourth, as many of your columnists have pointed out, one of the reasons that America’s elites are so arrogant with China is because of their conception of viewing economic terms in nominal

    I think only ignorant Americans who get all their knowledge from the MSM still believe that America has a larger economy than China. Just look at car sales or steel production or ecommerce or any other solid statistic.

    If the Neocons wanted to handicap China and cement the highly pro-Israel US country as number 1, why would the Israel government allow the dissemination of a report on their newspaper that would undermine the United States’ credibility?

    Remember, this was almost certainly a rogue operation, and almost nobody in the US, Israel, or anywhere else was aware of the massive implications of admitting the existence of that DIA report. So Israeli intelligence confirmed it to Israeli TV, just like four different US intelligence sources gave the facts to 美国广播公司新闻. Since none of them were aware of the outbreak timeline, none of them realized the gigantic blunder they were committing. And since I seem to be just about the only person in the world who noticed it and nobody’s paid any attention to my analysis, it actually didn’t turn out to be that big a blunder after all…

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    , @Wizard of Oz
  241. @Ron Unz

    Well, up to a point Lord Copper. While UR has added to my adult lifelong enjoyment from asking contrarian questions and scepticism of others’ certainties (in which I now have to include your Covid thesis) I shall have to take time to think through your explanation of why we do not receive Chinese confirmatiion of your thesis. Of course I take your thesis as standing on the ABC/Israeli TV etc disclosure and I wouldn’t expect China to be able to shed any light on that, or interested in doing so.

    I remain of the school most friendly politicians I have known – especially old school Labor ones – belong to. That entails genuine belief as well as wry statement that “when the choice is between a cock up and a conspiracy put your money on the cock up”. It doesn’t even seem to me much of a cock up for one of US intelligences many branches to be trying to justify its existence as I have suggested.

    You are right that, because of damage to my maculas and consequent slower reading I have watched quite a few historical documentaries on TV in recent years. But no one who enjoys UR could fail, surely, to enjoy watching and listening for the tells – errors and symptoms – whether it is glib repetions of the 6 million or more recherché confusions and contradictions. I do not crave certainties and don’t even face your requirement to stick your neck out (which I suspect you relish). About the time I took a job with a most deeply sceptical man who, in the 40s was a diplomat working with Acheson, Frankfurter and the Indian and Pakistani leaders whom he rarely trusted I also recorded my view that whatever I read in Time magazine that I knew about was materially wrong.
    So,you are wrong to think I would find a well produced documentary of your thesis persuasive although I also intend to think about the credibility of my supposition that we would be hearing more from China if your thesis were correct. I start now with the question how the Chinese might go about boosting the knowledge of and belief in your thesis. Surely they would want to do that? I have a mundane planning objection to deal with so I can only start using some imagination by a sally
    in the direction of wondering why the Iranians shouldn’t be encouraged to take part……

  242. @blaqua

    Covid-19 has been isolated. The info on the sites I mentioned is accurate and reliable.

    You mentioned two sites, both of them self-professed fact-checking sites — the sorts of places we at UR tend to be skeptical of. Both purport to refute the claims that the virus does not exist and has not been isolated. I am not even going to touch the first of those claims because I have no idea how you can claim a virus does or does not exist if has not been isolated.

    Now traditionally the proof of existence falls on the use of Robert Koch’s four postulates:

    “1. The microorganism must be found in the diseased animal, and not found in healthy animals.

    “2. The microorganism must be extracted and isolated from the diseased animal and subsequently grown in culture.

    “3. The microorganism must cause the disease when introduced to a healthy experimental animal.

    “4. The microorganism must be extracted from the diseased experimental animal and demonstrated to be the same microorganism that was originally isolated from the first diseased animal.”

    Your two fact-checkers spend more time telling us why they should not have to confirm Koch’s postulates for SARS CoV2 than they do showing how they have confirmed them. Viruses, they say, “require host cells in which to replicate, so also cannot be isolated in the same way Koch defined with bacteria.” Or “Koch’s postulates are NOT, as O’Doherty claims, a way to establish a virus exists.” Or “scientists also recognize that there are limitations to these criteria.” Or “Postulates #2 and #3 cannot be fulfilled for viruses that do not replicate in cell culture, or for which a suitable animal model has not been identified.”

    Your second “fact-checker” (being more comprehensive than the first) argues that the virus has been electron microscoped and has been shown to be transmitted from humans to animals. Unfortunately, as near as I can tell, these two findings were in separate and unrelated papers. Without the microscope, how do you establish what caused the disease. Without the transmission, how do you establish you have found a disease vector.
    https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/the-virus-that-causes-covid-19-exists-and-was-identified-and-isolated-multiple-times-by-independent-research-groups/

    Here’s the entire protocol for the isolation of the virus in the only study cited to allegedly prove transmission of the disease to rhesus monkeys. Notice there is no mention of standard virus purification methods like centrifuging:

    The virus isolation was propagated in Vero E6 cells (ATCC® CRL-1586™) in DMEM supplemented with 10% fetal bovine serum (FBS), 1 mM l-glutamine, 100 international units (IU)/mL penicillin and 100 µg/mL streptomycin, and cultured at 37 °C in 5% CO2. The virus was harvested on day 3 post infection.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0364-z

    The antibiotics and bovine serum in this protocol are said to be added as toxins to facilitate the reproduction of the alleged viruses, which tend not to thrive unless the cell is starved and poisoned. These chemicals thus tend to cause the disintegration of the cell with consequent breakdown products that might be confused with viruses. To control for this, the procedure should have been extended, but wasn’t, to include the addition of “virally” uncontaminated tissue to the Vero cells with exactly the same toxins.

    This very small and poorly controlled study did not conclusively prove that the disease induced in their monkeys was the same disease as Covid19 in humans. While some minor signs of pneumonia were found, no attempt was made to relate the autopsy signs in their animal subjects to the specific autopsy findings found in human Covid19 patients. Additionally:

    no obvious clinical signs were captured in our study course which was in agreement with published studies….Body temperatures were monitored from day 1 to day 14 and no obvious changes were found …The RM model described here exhibits the asymptomatic and mild symptoms, which is in line with the majority of non-severe human cases, although it lacks clinical signs…然而, the more detailed histopathological changes caused by SARS-CoV-2 in respiratory track and other organs, as well as their relationship with viral infection still awaits investigation.

    Again, the electron microscope pic, being the one I mentioned in my first post, shows the alleged virus in a sea of other cells and cellular debris. Not what I would call isolation at all. See below.

    I’m not going to go so far as that the virus does not exist. Just that some major shortcuts have been taken with no firm logical justification. Prove me wrong.

    Do hope you got in touch with that long-lost twin brother of yours. I hear he is lurking on the next thread.

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    , @Tom Rogers
  243. @Alfred

    Vaccine manufacturer Merck has abandoned development of two coronavirus vaccines, saying that after extensive research it was concluded that the shots offered less protection than just contracting the virus …

    Istn’t there something a bizarre about that statement? I mean, the whole point of the vaccine is to prevent getting the disease, so how can getting the disease provide better protection, i.e., from getting the disease?

    That aside, is it not the case that the Merck vaccine was of a different kind to the Pfizer and other nucleic acid vaccines, being on traditional lines containing whole dead or “attenuated” virus? No vaccine of that type for a corona virus worked in the past, so not surprising it didn’t work in this case either.

    • 回复: @Alfred
  244. Nancy 说:
    @Whitewolf

    Thank you. And a quote, “There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance.” Goethe

    • 同意: ivan
  245. Nancy 说:
    @SS-The Independent

    “There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance.” Goethe
    If you don’t like to read, start with the (James) Corbett Report… still on YT I believe …. it is totally referenced.

    • 回复: @SS-The Independent
  246. Liza 说:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    1. How on earth did you ever find this? I mean, why do you even know about it…
    2. It has 72,000,000 views. SMH.
    3. A comment: Imagine, 1000 years from now, when the aliens finally arrive…this is the only remaining proof of humanity’s existence.

    • 回复: @Hippopotamusdrome
  247. @thordaddy

    I prefer the term ‘imaginary virus’, but your term works just as well. It’s safe to bet that all of the politicians who are submitting to injections on camera are getting sterile saline solution, which works as an imaginary vaccine, which is fitting for an imaginary virus.

    Unfortunately, all others who submit to vaccination are getting something else entirely and people are dying or being injured by the vaccines. I view the whole thing as a scam with some pretty nasty aims being promoted.

    • 同意: Alfred
  248. @Sirius

    Ah, the old “my sister’s cat’s grandmother died of covid” scam. Admit it: you don’t know 20 people, period.

    • 巨魔: Wizard of Oz
  249. ivan 说:

    Sometime in March of last year, the entire lot of the harbingers of the Four Horesemen of the Apolcalypse, viz the Democrats, the lying press, Big Tech, the cabal of the scaremongers of mankind, decided to sink DJ Trump with the Covid virus, and they succeeded. I expect the kabuki theater to continue for a while as they run through the motions, depending on how hard it is for them to spin a new narrative perhaps till June of this year.

    By that time they will decide, that through some nebulous combination of “herd immunity”, vaccine effectiveness, Fauci deciding that 3 ply masks have finally done the trick, that it its morning again in America. For all intents and purposes the Covid is just a more virulent form of the flu, and in fact prior exposure to a milder form of the flu, strengthens one’s body to fight off the Covid infection. But Trump Derangement Syndrome is such a spectacularly effective mind control meme, that common sense gets thrown out of the window over and over again.

  250. Nancy 说:
    @John Wear

    David Graeber’s death seems pretty suspicious to me, also. He’d be raising a ruckus about what the 1% is currently doing to the 99% right now.

  251. blaqua 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    Health authorities from ALL countries (North Korea and Turkmenistan excluded, trustworthy authorities!!) of any regime, geopolitical allegiance and religion have identified covid-19 cases; as of January 2021, 182 countries have reported more than 1,000 cases, 152 more than 5,000, while 86 have reported more than 1,000 deaths, and you still doubt the existence of the virus?? Doubt it if that is what you want. I don’t and won’t. Full stop.

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  252. Alfred 说:
    @Ron Unz

    @acementhead above made this rather obvious point:

    Deaths is entirely the wrong metric(way of measuring) to judge the impact of covid. The only sensible way is Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost. QALY lost can measure the non-fatal impact as well as the fatal. The criminals running this fraud refuse to look at QALY because by using that metric it would show without doubt that the Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost due to the “lockdowns” and economic destruction would be probably at least two orders of magnitude more than doing nothing except leaving people to work things out for themselves.

    If these WSJ charts measured the correct metric, your analysis would have gone in a different direction.

    Indeed, these charts are designed to mislead readers like yourself. Do you seriously think that the life of a teenager is worth the same as that of an 80 year old with a malignant cancer?

    The UK’s National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) uses QALY in order to decide whether certain medications are worthwhile or not. Strangely, Boris Johnson and his team have totally abandoned any pretense to using objective measures.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  253. Alfred 说:
    @CanSpeccy

    Vaccine manufacturer Merck has abandoned development of two coronavirus vaccines, saying that after extensive research it was concluded that the shots offered less protection than just contracting the virus …

    Isn’t there something a bizarre about that statement?

    Not at all. They are just confirming that we all have immune systems that are superior at removing any virus that is harmful to our organism. They are also confirming that the virus (whether it is really influenza or Wuhan Virus) is pretty harmless to healthy people. Vaccines don’t work so well for those who need them most – the elderly.

    The polio vaccine, for example, is sometimes a weakened version of the live virus. That is how the WHO and Bill Gates managed to reintroduce polio to Africa.

    Microsoft founder Bill Gates has made himself the global vaccine czar as his foundation spends billions on spreading new vaccines globally. While much attention has been given to the role of Gates behind the corrupt WHO in promoting radical untested coronavirus vaccines, the record of the Gates Foundation pushing an oral polio vaccine across Africa gives more sobering evidence that all Gates says and does is not genuine human charity. The UN has just recently admitted that new cases of infantile paralysis or polio have resulted in Africa from an oral polio vaccine developed with strong support from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It mirrors what happened in the USA in the 1950s.

    Gates Vaccine Spreads Polio Across Africa

  254. @Ron Unz

    And why in this total fiction would they make a virus that East Asians almost certainly have a higher degree of natural immunity to?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  255. Patric 说:
    @Ron Unz

    These graphs can be seen another way. They are the PRODUCT of the ‘lockdowns’ including but not limited to moving old and quite sick people out of hospitals and into care homes. (This was a big factor in Ireland where I live), also calling any or most deaths as ‘covid’, the useless PCR test, the fear and loneliness etc etc.

    All that said I find it interesting that Ron Unz ‘believes’ in Covid to the point he thinks maybe more died of it than in the official numbers!!. I can’t help but feel maybe there is somehow a ‘Jewish epi-gene’ operating here, even though he has to his credit become quite skeptical of the ‘holocaust’ something in him still falls for these elaborate ‘sob stories’. Is he replacing one holocaust with another? Does he need that somehow?

    • 同意: Alfred
  256. @blaqua

    Covid-19 has been isolated. The info on the [fact-checking] sites I mentioned is accurate and reliable.

    So I spend six hours delving into the sources behind your so-called fact checking sites and find them deficient in several respects, not at all meeting your repeated assertions of accuracy and reliability. And all you give me back is this:

    86 [countries] have reported more than 1,000 deaths, and you still doubt the existence of the virus??

    Well I’m sure my sixty years of analyzing medical literature like this will have to defer to your right pinky’s admitted dexterity in hitting that question-mark key. But perhaps you will at least deign to explain why the flu has disappeared this winter in at least several countries.

    顺便说一下 自然 article I critiqued was really quite poorly controlled in the way they infected their rhesus monkeys. Here is their protocol:

    Six RMs [Rhesus Macaques] … were inoculated with 7 × 106 50% tissue-culture infectious doses of SARS-CoV-2 (Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, IVCAS 6.7512) and 2 RMs were inoculated with Dulbecco’s modified Eagle’s medium (DMEM) through intratracheal route.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0364-z

    If you think about it, it’s quite possible that all the pathology in their experimental animals was caused by an allergic reaction to the non-viral proteins in the tissue administered (basically snot). The controls should have been given similar snot from healthy people.

    • 回复: @blaqua
  257. Sirius 说:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I’ve read a more credible source, international lawyer Francis Boyle, who believes it is a virus developed in a lab, but that it was released by accident.

  258. Your thesis may or may not be correct. But your methodology of arriving at the thesis is beyond flawed.

    By Occam’s Razor, “we” are most definitely NOT obliged to take the simplest explanation.

    If you are obliged to take it, then – by definition, you are either a beginner, a student, a simpleton, or a moron. Or – any of these things or all of these things.

    The general public has a completely incorrect view of Occam’s Razor. This is mostly due to the concept being continuously misused and misidentified in the media … movies, television shows, news shows, etc.

    Occam’s Razor, the so-called Law of Parsimony, is generally misunderstood and misapplied by the vast majority of persons who do not work or specialize in the sciences – physical or otherwise. Most people take the Razor to mean that “the simplest explanation that fits all the facts is the most likely one to be correct.” That is a far cry from its actual meaning. The Razor states that one should proceed to simpler theories until simplicity can be traded for greater explanatory power. The simplest available theory need not be most accurate. In short, in the process of researching and solving a problem, you should start with the simplest explanations because they are generally the easiest to deal with, measure, and disprove. It is in fact nothing more than a bit of a heuristic conceit; it is a learning gimmick. It is not considered to be a principle of logic nor an integrated part of the scientific method. If anything, it is inductive and generally circular in nature. It is nothing close to a natural law. It is in fact not a law of any kind. Other than giving students and novices a starting point, the value of the true Razor concept is rather limited.

    Even if we examine the general public’s perceived definition of the Razor in terms of workability – “the simplest explanation that fits all the facts is the most likely one to be correct,” this too is of no help because the concept is rarely true in the sciences (particularly physics) at all. It may occasionally be true in anything, but it is seldom of use in anything more complicated than the study of traffic patterns. The truth of this concept is usually covered very thoroughly by the “201” level of most any type of university science curriculum. So, whether we are talking about the perceived definition of the Razor or the actual definition, if either truly is used as a definitive indicator of an extant condition – the result is most likely wrong, or at best – suspect.

    Even when we move outside the arena of scientific endeavor, common sense and everyday experience should tell the average person that the simplest explanation is no more likely to be correct than is the most complicated explanation. My experience tells me that in this complicated world, the simplest explanation is usually dead wrong. But I’ve noticed that the simplest explanation usually sounds right and is far more convincing than any complicated explanation could ever hope to be.

    While it is always true that complex things are made up of a series of simple things, this does not mean that everything is effectively simple.

    • 谢谢: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @ivan
  259. Sirius 说:
    @KeltCindy

    Since your kind comment, I’ve had two commenters basically accusing me of lying, not to mention the one before who thinks I must be living in a nursing home (if he’s reading: I’ve never even been inside a nursing home nor do I know or ever have known anyone living in one). My guess is that some people live very lonely lives and can’t imagine that someone else could know so “many” people (it’s not that many in my opinion).

    It kind of makes one wonder whether it’s worth sharing personal experiences on forums, but at least there is some balance when someone like you shows appreciation. Thanks 🙂

    And we do indeed live in interesting times. Too interesting perhaps!

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  260. @RoatanBill

    Roatan Bill:你的故事是我去过许多国家一遍又一遍地目睹的事情。 在美国急诊室因一点感冒或轻微扭伤而被看到会花费数千美元。 在我 70 多岁的时候,我看到了一个与这些成本截然不同的世界。
    我摇头。
    美国的医生现在不允许开羟氯喹,除非他们能证明患者患有需要药物治疗的皮肤病或风湿病。
    商学院的毕业生除了制定越来越多的琐碎规则之外,没有什么比这更好的了。

    • 回复: @RoatanBill
  261. geokat62 说:
    @Ron Unz

    根据 all the studies that have been done, as summarized and reported by e.g. the WSJ, Covid-19 seems to have an average fatality in the 0.5%-1.0% range…

    All the studies, Ron?

    Not according to Professor Ioannides’ latest study, Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from seroprevalence data.

    He took the data from various regions of the world (based on 61 studies/74 estimates and eight preliminary national estimates) and arrived at an IFR that varied from 0.00% to 1.54%, with the median at 0.27 per cent. He then says that, when people over 70 were removed from the figure, the median IFR falls to just 0.05 per cent. 

    Here’s the link to the study…

    https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

    Why don’t you give it a read and tell us what you think?

    • 谢谢: canspeccy
    • 回复: @glib
    , @Ron Unz
  262. RoatanBill 说:
    @Lost American

    The lunacy that is rampant in the US is primarily due to people in positions of authority they shouldn’t have and in most cases positions that shouldn’t even exist.

    I’m down on the Humanities and Social Sciences because these are almost totally opinion based faux disciplines that crank out numskulls with degrees. These mental midgets then wander into gov’t and the upper tier of corporations to make the rules that all are supposed to follow. We can see the results.

    业内人士和 STEM 毕业生构建并维系了整个世界。 人文和社会科学界的人对整个社会是一个巨大的负面影响,因为他们胡说八道,但有信念。

    It’s the violence or threat of violence that gov’t represents that allow the shallow thinkers of our elite to succeed in their apparent quest to return the world to feudalism, but this time with equity, equality, the law of rule and rainbows.

    • 回复: @Lost American
  263. @Frederick V. Reed

    First of all, it is not ‘federally’ designed, but deep-state designed, which is to say worldwide. All governments except perhaps Belarus are in on it.
    And you’re saying you believe the CIA version of Kennedy’s murder?
    Read 1984 again, you may learn something of how government works.

  264. @Anon

    Third, as many commentators have noted, especially Razib Khan, there is much evidence that coronavirus is endemic to East Asia, with prior outbreaks have occurred there historically. While that does not mean that the East Asians are genetically immune or any nonsense(evidence says they are certainly not), it does mean that there is a chance that the virus would have less of an effect than some other contagion. That is like trying to take out the Europeans with a virus strain that they have historically dealt with, which very stupid and not likely to work.

    That paragraph of yours is badly written and you are misquoting Razib Khan. The statement that “coronavirus is endemic to East Asia” has no meaning; the correct form of expressing what is said in Razib’s piece would be “coronaviruses are endemic to East Asia”, since he is referring to a class of viruses called Coronaviruses. As for your assertion that “there is a chance that the virus would have less of an effect [on East Asians] than some other contagion”, this also contradicts what Razib is saying in his piece. Here is a direct quote:

    The evidence in the preprint is pretty persuasive. First, I need to communicate something the last author told me: there is no evidence in their results that East Asians have particular robustness or vulnerability to COVID-19. That is due to the fact that these selection sweeps can cut both ways with this particular virus.

    Selection In E Asians Due To Coronavirus Epidemics
    https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2020/11/20/selection-in-east-asians-due-to-coronavirus-epidemics

  265. @Wizard of Oz

    Wizard of Oz, who ALWAYS is on the wrong side of EVERY argument.

  266. Georgia 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    Sorry read the comments back and forth and have to say this — you are a dishonest moron.

  267. Georgia 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Another clueless fool chimes in his support of the nasty clueless moron whose all in favor of us being crushed by this “Elite” plan to bring in the Satanic NWO “Great Reset” by use of this CVirus HOAX and Medical Martial Law — you types are worse than Schwaub and Kerry even– giving support to these bastards

  268. @Wizard of Oz

    By contrast to this freak Oz, I highly commend Unz for publishing this piece, especially as he has published no where near enough on the right side of this all important topic. He gives free reign to people like Steve Sailer, probably an agent with his pro vax cheer leading. So thank you Unz for publishing this very excellent and well-researched bit of truth!

  269. Georgia 说:
    @utu

    Right–argue this CVirus is not being used by the “Elites” to usher in the Satanic NWO “Great Reset” Agenda by use of Medical Martial Law? You and your cheerleaders for Schwaub et al are the worst combination of fools/cowards….yes we must destroy society for a CVirus that upwards of 99.7% (even on the unbelievably fraudulent deaths counted) survive — truly wish you and yours alone reaped what we all will suffer because of you types, legions of you morons — How about the more than 200 Million that may well starve to death because of these insane and worse than useless “lockdowns” caused by the Gates’ “Expert”/Fraud Neil “the Modeler” in London? Pathetic.

  270. obwandiyag 说:

    From an expert that can really read this gobbledegook:

    “The problem with this pandemic isn’t short-term mortality. The problem is that the virus has the capacity to produce long-term health and reproductive challenges that could be devastating if children do not develop immunity. I fully expect a shortened lifespan for contemporary adult populations.

    That is the problem. The virus is the sort that could cause colony collapse in bees or bats when combined with populations weakened by environmental exposure, poor nutrition, pre-existing conditions, etc.”

    The above article skips the colony collapse part. They always skip stuff. The technical term for skipping stuff is “slanting.” Used by people trying to snow you.

    • 回复: @CanSpeccy
    , @ivan
  271. blaqua 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    Why do you think that flu has vanished? That’s untrue. If the number of flu deaths and cases in 2020 has greatly decreased in most countries, that’s to be expected and connected with the preventive measures, such as use of protective masks, sanitizers etc. I’m not surprised that I myself got sick in 2018-19, but not in 2020. You remind me of those who try to debunk the pandemic by claiming that health authorities sideline other diseases. Sadly, no deadly disease has ceased to kill during this pandemic. Consult the chart below:
    https://usafacts.org/articles/top-causes-death-united-states-heart-disease-cancer-and-covid-19/
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-not-among-10-most-common-causes-of-death-in-september-ons-12111980

    “I spend six hours delving into the sources” “I’m sure my sixty years of analyzing medical literature”
    You are a pensioner with plenty of free time who has nothing better to do than to discredit your active fighting colleagues around the world.

  272. 也许这会帮助罗恩了解瑞典去年的死亡人数是多么的正常。 他们没有封锁,而且 因此 没有超额死亡率。 https://hippy-end.livejournal.com/3918359.html (使用英文翻译):“2020 年的第一个统计数据表明,没有大流行,也从未有过。”

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @R2b
  273. @obwandiyag

    The above article skips the colony collapse part.

    You’re saying we’re all gonna die?

    哎呀!

  274. @noname27

    Thank you, that first couple of minutes I almost fell off my chair laughing–much appreciated, and the rest of it is worth watching too.

    • 回复: @noname27
  275. Getaclue 说:
    @lloyd

    Or it could be the “health” authorities are completely cooking the books and dumping all they can on Covid? They have ZERO credibility anymore with anyone who is sane….

  276. @Ron Unz

    ‘Anyway, at least a couple of million Americans and Europeans will die from Covid-19 and our economies and societies have been wrecked, so we’ve already been punished for our attack. Meanwhile, the Chinese are doing fine.’

    I believe your theory is wrong. What do you think of Event 201, from October 2019, and Operation Lockstep, from 2010–both of which EXACTLY lay out the course of this phony epidemic?

    I remember when all this started last year. I knew almost straight off what was going on. People would say to me, ‘yes, but they wouldn’t DARE ruin the world economy!’ My response was and is that not only would they, but that wrecking it is an integral part of their master plan.

    Despite your Pravda series, you often seem to come from a point of view that much of what we’re told is happening in the world ‘just happens’. I on the other hand have been convinced for many years that all we believe about world events is a sham, invented by them with various objectives. In other words, that NONE of it ‘just happens’, but is made to seem as if it does. Remember William Casey’s quote, ‘We’ll know we’ve won when everything the public believes is false’?

    • 同意: Schuetze, Alfred
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  277. Getaclue 说:
    @Patrick McNally

    Your comment is moronic — the “data” you cite as to “excess deaths” was the complete garbage “Models” of Neal Ferguson of London, in the pay of Bill Gates for same, that were based on total lies — he has done this before as to “Mad Cow” and is known as a serial liar (out and about screwing a Leftist married Broad while telling the rest of us to stay locked down– his conduct proves he knows the CVirus bs is a HOAX) but he is a good NWO “Great Reset” shill so he’s an “expert” — The CVirus HOAX was gamed by Gates and Rockefeller Foundations and both have spent billions to position their “experts” in place to play their parts — this is all about ushering in the NWO Feudalist State — people who can’t see this, at this late date, are in on it or morons.

    • 回复: @Patrick McNally
  278. @Ron Unz

    Pardon the effrontery, but you spend far too much time analyzing charts and graphs spoon fed to you by the enemy. I’m supposed to believe a word the FT says? Or the NYT, or Guardian? Look to roughly the OPPOSITE of what the 24-hr relentless Machine is vomiting out to be pointed at least somewhat in the direction of truth.

  279. Herald 说:
    @Wyatt

    Yes bomb it, but only Whitehall and that tiny independent financial enclave within London proper, known as the City of London. This will be a major step in the right direction, though there will still be much work to do elsewhere.

  280. Schuetze 说:
    @Alfred

    Great article Alfred, and it blows Ron Unz’s entire “not a hoax” argument out of the water. Bill Sardi has been nailing this Covid hoax from the very beginning, he was calling it a hoax even as the Chinese were bombarding us with their psyop videos of Wuhan.

    What this really shows is the degree to which Ron Unz suffers from acute Confirmation Bias. He will ignore Lew Rockwell and hold up the Wall Street Journal as the ultimate truth when it comes to CV19, but if this was a LR article by Mercola about the putsch in Burma vs a Victor Davis Hanson article in the WSJ, we know that he would blow a gasket fuming about “neocons”.

    • 同意: Alfred
  281. Ron Unz 说:
    @Alfred

    Indeed, these charts are designed to mislead readers like yourself. Do you seriously think that the life of a teenager is worth the same as that of an 80 year old with a malignant cancer?

    Well, the figures I’ve seen floating around on the Internet are that the average Covid-19 fatality would have had about 10 more years of life. So the million or so American deaths we might have obviously aren’t as serious as if they were teenagers, but a million deaths in the US still seems like a pretty large number to me…

    • 回复: @Rufus Clyde
    , @Mike Tre
  282. @Wizard of Oz

    Since we are talking about an increase in mortality potentially due to socio-economic restrictions, which constitute a new set of variables, to conclude that the increase in mortality is due to existing morbidities, would require that you have evidence that such morbidities are present in the population that makes up the excess mortality. Which you don’t, you stupid cunt.

    • 巨魔: Wizard of Oz
  283. Ron Unz 说:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    And why in this total fiction would they make a virus that East Asians almost certainly have a higher degree of natural immunity to?

    I think there’s zero evidence that East Asians are less susceptible, except insofar as they implemented strong public health measures quickly enough to minimize the initial outbreaks.

    In fact, many of the early articles strongly speculated that East Asians were *尤其* vulnerable, leading to some quiet some suspicion floating around that Covid-19 might have been a racially-targeted bioweapon:

    https://www.unz.com/author/lance-welton/2020/02/

    https://www.unz.com/author/lance-welton/2020/03/

    • 回复: @Not Only Wrathful
  284. @Ron Unz

    If there’s a set of data on which to base scientific conclusions, it’s definitely figures “floating around the internet”. By all means feel free to explain how the average Covid fatality would have had about ten more years of life, given the age and prevalence of comorbidities in such a person. In my province the average Covid fatality is 82 years of age, confined to long-term care where the median stay for a male, pre-Covid, was under six months, and with an average of four of the following comorbidities:
    糖尿病,高血压,COPD,癌症,痴呆,中风,肝硬化,心血管疾病(包括IHD和充血性心力衰竭),慢性肾脏疾病和免疫缺陷。
    To claim that such a person could expect ten more years of life is absurd.

    • 同意: Mario Partisan, Mark G.
    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  285. Ron Unz 说:
    @geokat62

    All the studies, Ron?

    I was speaking loosely, but here’s a quote from a detailed summary from the WSJ a few months ago:

    大流行发生六个月后,研究人员正在寻找有关该病毒的基本问题之一的答案:它有多致命?

    研究人员最初分析了游轮上爆发的数据,最近分析了对病毒热点地区数千人的调查,现在已经进行了数十项研究来计算 Covid-19 的感染死亡率。

    这项研究——从感染总数中检查死亡人数,其中包括未报告的病例——表明 Covid-19 杀死了大约 0.3% 到 1.5% 的感染者。 大多数研究将这一比率定在 0.5% 到 1.0% 之间,这意味着每 1,000 人被感染,平均有 10 到 XNUMX 人会死亡。

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-deadly-is-covid-19-researchers-are-getting-closer-to-an-answer-11595323801

    显然,你总能找到一个极端的异常值,但是当你有几十个著名的研究时,最好选择其中的大多数。

    One obvious reason for extreme variability is the age-skew, with those 60+ having something like 100x the fatality rates of those 40 and under.

    Since America’s “excess deaths” are now something like 700,000 and we have some (very rough) idea of the percentage range of people infected, I think that puts a strong lower-bound on the IFR.

    • 回复: @canspeccy
    , @geokat62
  286. @Nitram

    Why has this article been banned from Facebook?

    From your comment history you seem to be new here. Because all of Unz Review and hence all articles linked to UR are banned from Facebook.

  287. Ron Unz 说:
    @Nick Kollerstrom

    Maybe it would help Ron to see how Swedish deaths last year were absolutely normal. They did not lockdown, and therefore had no excess mortality. https://hippy-end.livejournal.com/3918359.html (使用英文翻译):“2020 年的第一个统计数据表明,没有大流行,也从未有过。”

    Perhaps I’m overly cautious, but can I really believe allegedly world-shattering international fatality statistics provided by a blogger called “Hippy End” who writes in Russian? Can’t anyone write anything and put it up somewhere on the Internet?

    • 哈哈: TKK
    • 回复: @Alfred
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @cranc
  288. Ron Unz 说:
    @daniel le mouche

    I believe your theory is wrong. What do you think of Event 201, from October 2019, and Operation Lockstep, from 2010–both of which EXACTLY lay out the course of this phony epidemic?

    As far as I know, worldwide health care professionals have been regularly warning about a possible new global epidemic for thirty, forty, fifty years, and they surely increased their warnings after the SARS and Ebola outbreaks.

    If you warn about something in pretty general terms every year for fifty years, and then one year it actually happens, that doesn’t really prove you had any advance knowledge of the event.

    • 回复: @Schuetze
    , @daniel le mouche
  289. Schuetze 说:

    在我之后重复: “The Crown Virus is not a Hoax”

    WHO Teams Visits Wuhan Food Market in Search of Virus Clues

    “A World Health Organization team looking into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic on Sunday visited a market known to be the food distribution center for the Chinese city of Wuhan during the 76-day lockdown last year.

    The team members were seen walking through sections of the Baishazhou market — one of the largest wet markets in Wuhan — surrounded by a large entourage of Chinese officials and representatives.

    The members, with expertise in veterinarian, virology, food safety and epidemiology, have so far visited two hospitals at the center of the early outbreak — Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital and the Hubei Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine Hospital.

    上周六, they also visited a museum exhibition dedicated to the early history of COVID-19设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

    Covid-19 holocaust museums. I do believe, I do, I do, I do believe.

  290. @Ron Unz

    That research—examining deaths out of the total number of infections, which includes unreported cases—suggests that Covid-19 kills from around 0.3% to 1.5% of people infected.

    Thus stated thus, without qualification, covid mortality rates will be taken to refer to the population as a whole, which is an entirely false inference.

    Covid mortality is hugely age-dependent, so infection fatality rates are meaningless as a basis for assessing personal risk.

    If you are under 21, your risk is of death from Covid19 is substantially less than the risk of being killed in a motor vehicle accident. If you are over 75, your risk of death from Covid19 is 10% or more.

    There’s another factor that massively distorts understanding of the Covid mortality risk, and that is the prevalence of infection among different groups.

    A study conducted in UK care homes revealed that as early as April 2020, 40% of investigated care home residents and 21% of staff were Covid19 antibody positive. These rates, which are vastly higher than national rates at the time (almost certainly less than 5%), mean that UK care homes were death traps for the most vulnerable, and accounted for a large majority of the UK’s total Covid death toll.

    Take these facts into consideration and it is evident that talking of population-wide IFRs is foolish nonsense or deliberate misdirection.

    In Canada, for example, as of October, 2020, 73% of all Covid 19 deaths were of care home residents.

    Covid is not a pandemic, it’s a mechanism for saving the UK’s National Health Service, and US Healthcare insurers by ridding the world of useless (and very expensive) eaters.

    • 哈哈: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @CanSpeccy
  291. Kati_uk 说:

    Interesting would be suicide data for each month of 2020, but guess we never see that.

    Lots experts said it the whole time, its no pandemic in terms of the definition, masks are useless and asymptomatic spreading has never been proven.
    (Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi, german virologist, in his last interview with “planet lockdown”, avaible on most platforms, even YT had it last time i checked)

  292. 9593 说:

    Taking account of the time delay between infection and symptoms, 2 – 14 days, and the variable time for becoming acute unto death, the time lapse graphs of England and Wales – and America, appear to me to show the effectiveness of enforced lock down in quelling the deaths from covid – 19.

    Cause and effect, of time bombs that wait for days.

    • 同意: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @Dumbo
  293. @Getaclue

    You are the moron here. You don’t even know how to read. The Numbers of 75,000 and 280,000 which I mentioned were just taken right from the above and are given by Nick Kollerstrom himself in his own essay. If you can actually learn how to read something more than 3 words long you will discover that Kollerstrom was not referring to Ferguson at all but was just quoting figures given the CDC.

    Are those figures correct? Danged if I know. I was just quoting what Kollerstrom himself has cited as the most resent data. What I did point out, and what bears repeating, is that Kollerstrom’s own data does not support his conclusion. If the CDC is correct that there has in fact been an excess of deaths in the last year over previous years then the whole argument that “we have not had as many flu deaths” is rendered irrelevant. If it true that there was an excess of deaths in the last year then the only way to counter this as an argument in support of CV-19 deaths is to verify an increase in other causes of death.

    I actually did lay out a couple very plausible things that could partly account for excess deaths apart from CV-19. I mentioned reports that suicide has gone up in the last year. Any excess of suicides which may have occurred in the last year over previous years should be deducted from our overall count of excess deaths. Likewise, I mentioned the increase in violent crime brought about by Antifa and Black Lies Matter. Any increase in murders that may have happened in the last year should be also deducted. Some people have claimed that there have been more deaths from cancer because of people delaying cancer treatment in the midst of the CV-19 frenzy. If that proves to be true, then these excess deaths should again be deducted.

    But whatever else may be done to refine the calculation, the numbers of 75,000 and 280,000 which Kollerstrom himself provided above (and which he absolutely was not taking from Ferguson but from the CDC) do support the conclusion that some significant death toll happened from CV-19. Moreover, as I had said already in the previous message, once Kollerstrom starts citing those CDC figures then the whole argument “nobody has counted flu deaths” becomes totally meaningless. The only thing which counts here is excess deaths. Flu deaths will only matter if you can show that we had an excess of flu deaths which must now be deducted from the general excess deaths. If very few flu deaths have been recorded then that means that our excess deaths are more likely due to CV-19.

  294. AReply 说:

    This article is intellectual Lord of the Flies. The author rails against that which does not exist, and begs his point that its existence proves it can’t exist. Everywhere he looks, the pandemic is so not-there! Then THE editor steps in to point out the article’s exhibits are nuts, vis-a-vis his a priori judgement on the relative worthlessness of old people’s remaining lives. But he’d published it anyway because it’s … Um, what is the masthead agenda? Because it’s controversial!

    The Final Solution is in there Ron Unz, keep dunking for it.

    Gimmicky French have already treated the subject of media-constructed reality in the 90s, when butt-raping Saddam was the big thrill.

    Jean Baudrillard – The Gulf War Did Not Take Place
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulf_War_Did_Not_Take_Place

  295. @Ron Unz

    全部产品 of the evidence says that they’re much less susceptible.

    Also, if public health measures were the key factor, then Cambodia, which completely fails on every single other measure of public health, would not have zero deaths despite being extremely exposed at the beginning of the pandemic.

    https://worldcrunch.com/coronavirus/regional-immunity-why-asia-has-avoided-the-worst-of-covid-19

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.16.385401v1.full.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiFm-zVv8nuAhUSGbkGHWZRDFIQFjAAegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw1GCKCGuB6KXy7u0a6lJ59M

  296. @RoatanBill

    Roatan-完全同意。 妇女和女权主义研究的毕业生似乎很生气,因为没有工作。 是的,来自左翼大学的文科垃圾太多了。
    我的祖先在煤矿和农场工作。 我很高兴所有人都死了。 他们无法忍受看到软弱、琐碎、苛刻、幼稚的左翼分子对这个国家做了什么。
    我曾在美国海军陆战队和美国陆军服役,但我告诉人们有很多没用的“退伍军人”。 见证约翰克里。 SOB 刚刚告诉管道装配工出售太阳能电池板。 在现实世界中,这些花花公子都会被赶出他们富有的假工作。

    主流媒体编造了这个现实,年轻人不知道它有多不正常。 公民不得不饿死 Facebook、职业篮球、Twitter 和数百个其他群组。

  297. @Hippopotamusdrome

    这个变态的视频是关于在他的“屁股”中获取东西的意义何在。 它有同性恋的音调。 我只能看一部分,因为它很恶心。 这个视频和文章有什么关系?

    这是一个不必要的视频。 我不明白你为什么要把这个糟糕的视频放在这里。

  298. Alfred 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Perhaps I’m overly cautious

    Here is a report in Swedish. The link below translates it to English. It is from the Swedish Government’s “Statistics Sweden”. It is difficult to fudge death numbers.

    The increasing spread of the coronavirus in society is not yet visible in the number of deaths in Sweden, according to preliminary statistics from Statistics Sweden. During the third quarter of the year, slightly fewer died than during the corresponding period in recent years.

    Excess mortality in Sweden has been followed by deficit in mortality (2020-10-12)

  299. Alfred 说:

    I am really a bit surprised at Mr Unz defending the indefensible. Everything the CDC publishes is deliberately misleading. The objective was clearly to cause panic and to impoverish the population of the USA.

    CDC illegally inflated the COVID fatality number by 1,600 percent as the 2020 presidential election played out, according to a study published by the Public Health Initiative of the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. The study, “COVID-19 Data Collection, Comorbidity & Federal Law: A Historical Retrospective,” was authored by Henry Ealy, Michael McEvoy, Daniel Chong, John Nowicki , Monica Sava, Sandeep Gupta, David White, James Jordan , Daniel Simon, and Paul Anderson.

    CDC Inflated COVID Numbers, Accused of Violating Federal Law

  300. @daniel le mouche

    You’re welcome. I thought the breathe-through gauze masks were hilarious too.

  301. Schuetze 说:
    @Ron Unz

    “If you warn about something in pretty general terms every year for fifty years, and then one year it actually happens, that doesn’t really prove you had any advance knowledge of the event.”

    Just like 9/11. Even the Simpsons knew it would happen on 9/11. Coinkydink.

    • 回复: @Alexandros
  302. @Rufus Clyde

    They are now vaccinating these old people in care. Will they be able to prove that the vaccine will extend their life in any significant way? And if the data were to show that the vaccine actually harms these old and sick people will they even bother to tell us?

    • 回复: @Iris
  303. Alexandros 说:
    @Schuetze

    There were dozens of tv and movie productions that “predicted 9/11”. As is the case with all major media events.

    Most likely not a coincidence, more likely predictive programming.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  304. @blaqua

    If the number of flu deaths and cases in 2020 has greatly decreased in most countries, that’s to be expected and connected with the preventive measures, such as use of protective masks, sanitizers etc.

    Well, it’s a possible explanation, but it doesn’t seem a very likely one. Because that would mean that you have one virus (the flu one) which responds well beyond all expectations to those measures you mention, and another (Sars-Cov-2) which doesn’t seem to respond at all. How plausible is this?

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  305. geokat62 说:
    @Ron Unz

    显然,你总能找到一个极端的异常值,但是当你有几十个著名的研究时,最好选择其中的大多数。

    Couldn’t agree more, Ron. You must’ve missed the part in the parentheses:

    He took the data from various regions of the world (based on 61 studies/74 estimates and eight preliminary national estimates)

    … and isn’t it a little hyperbolic to refer to the work of Prof. John Ioannides as an “extreme outlier”?

    Can you point to another epidemiologist who is as decorated as Prof. Ioannides?

    He has 35 Honors & Awards to his name:

    [更多]

    1. Elected member, National Academy of Medicine (2018-)
    2. Einstein fellow, Berlin Institute of Health, Einstein Stiftung and Stiftung Charite (2018)
    3. Epiphany Science Courage Award, Novim (inaugural award) (2018)
    4. Elected Councilor, Association of American Physicians (2017-2022)
    5. Elected member, Association of American Physicians (2009-)
    6. President, Society for Research Synthesis Methodology (2009-2010)
    7. Elected fellow, European Academy of Cancer Sciences (2010-)
    8. Elected member, American Epidemiological Society (2015-)
    9. Elected member, European Academy of Sciences and Arts (2015-)
    10. European Award for Excellence in Clinical Science, European Society for Clinical Investigation (2007)
    11. Albert Stuyvenberg Medal, European Society for Clinical Investigation (2020 (award ceremony 2021))
    12. Chanchlani Award for Global Health, McMaster University (2017)
    13. David-Sackett-Preis, Deutsche Netzwerk Evidenzbasierte Medizin (2017)
    14. Lifetime Achievement Award, Hellenic Society for Pharmacological Science (2016)
    15. Medal for Distinguished Service, Teachers College, Columbia University (2015)
    16. Honorary PhD, Erasmus University Rotterdam (2015)
    17. Honorary PhD (health sciences), University of Athens (2017)
    18. Honorary PhD, University of Tilburg (2019)
    19. Honorary doctorate (medicine), University of Edinburgh (2019 (award ceremony 2021))
    20. Honorary doctorate, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki (2020 (award ceremony 2021))
    21. Litchfield Lectureship, Oxford University (2015)
    22. Levine lectureship, Yale (2016)
    23. Harris lectureship in science and civilization, Caltech (2016)
    24. Snyder Lectureship, University of Utah (2016)
    25. Anatomy Lesson lecturer, University of Amsterdam and Academic Medical Center (2016)
    26. Annual Distinguished Investigator, University of Connecticut School of Medicine and Health Center (2017)
    27. Snively visiting professorship, UC Davis (2017)
    28. Gonatas memorial lectureship, University of Pennsylvania (2018)
    29. David and Rosemary Adamson Lecture on Excellence in Reproductive Medicine, ASRM (2018)
    30. C.R. Stephen lecture, Washington University St. Louis (2019)
    31. Gordon Award, National Institutes of Health (2019)
    32. Honorary President, Medical and Surgical Society of Corfu (2019)
    33. Honorary member, FORTH (2014)
    34. Honorary professor (omotimos), University of Ioannina (2014)
    35. Executive board member and center director, Human Genome Epidemiology Network (2004-)

    https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

    • 谢谢: Wizard of Oz
  306. @blaqua

    “I spend six hours delving into the sources” “I’m sure my sixty years of analyzing medical literature”
    You are a pensioner with plenty of free time who has nothing better to do than to discredit your active fighting colleagues around the world.

    Let me unpack that for you. For the record, what I said was:

    Well I’m sure my sixty years of analyzing medical literature like this will have to defer to your right pinky’s admitted dexterity in hitting that question-mark key.

    So you’ve figured out I’m retired. That’s rich. I guess we learned you subtraction in school real good, right. Or did you figure it out using that very talented pinky finger to move the beads on your abacus?

    How far do you really think that discovery is going to get you? Probably more than half the commenters on UR are similarly retired. We do our research, often on original sources. We don’t take too kindly to the arrogant drive-by shooter type of commenter, even with an MD behind his name, who has to rely on so-called fact-checking sites for his professional medical knowledge but can’t be bothered responding to well-considered rebuttals.

    You want us to believe that the incidence of influenza is way down this year because of masks, sanitizers and social distancing. All the things we’re so bad at, apparently, that Covid19 has been going through the roof. For two viruses that are pretty much the same size and have the same epidemiological patterns. You must take us for children.

    By the way my 60 years of experience in the medical literature includes a master’s thesis in epidemiology.

    • 回复: @blaqua
  307. @Alfred

    Sure, when Americans regard the US as the centro of the world and their attention the rest of the world evaporates, though you, not American I think,still materialise.

  308. @Alexandros

    Your concluding remark made me Google the meaning of “predictive programming”. I found this

    https://people.howstuffworks.com/predictive-programming-or-when-movies-predict-real-events.htm

    Interesting, but it doesn’t tell me what you are trying to convey. Enlightenment please.

    • 回复: @Alexandros
  309. @Brás Cubas

    On the contrary (surely: correct me if I have misunderstood you) the preventive measures have been very effective against Covid 19 in several countries, including Australia.

    • 回复: @Alfred
    , @Brás Cubas
  310. There were a lot of murders during the lockdown blamed on the non existent virus. The elderly and the homeless were murdered. God will judge the murderers and LIARS. The greatest enemy of the people is still the lying mainstream media.

  311. blaqua 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    “You want us to believe that the incidence of influenza is way down this year because of masks, sanitizers and social distancing. All the things we’re so bad at,”
    You want us to believe that the coronavirus doesn’t exist or doesn’t kill? That it is a scheme orchestrated by the new world order to depopulate us or cash in on vaccine sales? COVID-19 is much more contagious and transmissible than influenza and its three new variants surpass the Wuhan strain in contagiousness.

    “By the way my 60 years of experience in the medical literature includes a master’s thesis in epidemiology.” So what? Others too, younger than you, hold a thesis in epidemiology, or microbiology, and have confirmed COVID deaths. Who is a more reliable source of information, you and your possibly outdated thesis or the mass of professionals fighting at the front of the pandemic war, and not lounging around behind a PC screen?

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  312. Alexandros 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    It means training your mind to accept an upcoming event.

    If you are told something unpleasant it is better to know in advance. If your boss wants you to work overtime next week or tomorrow, that will probably be fine even if you have plans. But if he calls and says you have to come in RIGHT NOW, that is probably going to cause you some irritation. If he did that often, you might go look for another job.

    In the run up to the US election they always asked Trump “will you accept the result?”.

    This was obviously not a coincidence. They were training people for the shock. Because when you know and expect, even if only subconsciously, your psychological response will be more timid. And timid is good when you plan to rock somebody’s world. You want fear, but not hysteria.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  313. @Ron Unz

    And they did get up their rather permanent-seeming signage, plexiglass shields everywhere, swiftly and with great determination. I’m sure it will all come down in the next month or two though.

    Come to think of it, it almost bears a resemblance to the Patriot Act being shot through so swiftly and determinedly due to the imminent and grave threat posed by ‘terrorism’, which they of course swiftly retracted in favor of the traditional law of the land, the Constitution.

    Come to think of it, in Britain they’ve copied us in what they term the Special Powers Act, set up for corona, so they can declare ‘laws’ such as lockdowns, new face mask regulations, etc. without going through the channels of Parliament.

    All strange coincidences, I’m sure.

  314. @Alexandros

    Sounds like advising that, if you want to persuade people it is best to think twice before you surprise them.

  315. Iris 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    They are now vaccinating these old people in care. Will they be able to prove that the vaccine will extend their life in any significant way? And if the data were to show that the vaccine actually harms these old and sick people will they even bother to tell us?

    A relative of mine exerts a medical supervisory function in a care home for elderly people. The vaccination campaign was recently organised for both staff and patients. About 50% of the staff refused to have the vaccine, but almost all of the patients got it. Although they cannot be forced to, most of them are incapacitated in a way or the other, and their children/guardians made the decision to go ahead for them.

    After about 10 days, the care home that had peacefully sailed through more than a year of pandemic without noticeable problems, suddenly became the seat of a flurry of Covid-19 cases, randomly occurring all over the place. The home’s many floors are contained and the carers dedicated to specific wards within each floor, so it is obvious that the cause is not human contamination, but the vaccine itself.

    • 谢谢: Alfred
  316. @canspeccy

    嘿维兹,

    Re: your LOL

    Here’s something else you may find risible about the strong age dependency of the Covid19 infection fatality rate: it means that rational assessment of the cost/benefit ratio of vaccination is strongly age dependent.

    For the young, with a negligible risk of death from Covid infection, the risk of accepting an untested vaccine with unknown adverse effects may seem unreasonably high, whereas for the old, if they wish to prolong what little remains of their lives, potential negative effects beyond the immediate future will be of little concern.

    One obvious potential adverse effect of Covid vaccines now being administered despite the absence of long-term trials, is antibody dependent enhancement of viral infection or ADE.

    Based on experience with other vaccines, ADE arises on exposure not to the viral strain against which a vaccine has been developed, but exposure to other strains of the same virus. The emergence now reported of multiple new Covid19 strains thus creates precisely the conditions that could result in severe illness or death among those vaccinated.

    The recent imposition of stricter travel restrictions in Britain, Canada and elsewhere, with a view to restricting the spread of new viral strains surely reflects realization, rather late in the day, that pushing population-wide use of untested vaccines for a disease that, in young people, is less lethal than flu, and of unknown efficacy in old people, could be the recipe for a huge covid ADE disaster.

  317. Iris 说:
    @CanSpeccy

    For the young, with a negligible risk of death from Covid infection, the risk of accepting an untested vaccine with unknown adverse effects may seem unreasonably high

    It is fair to say that this risk is actually totally unacceptable for people able or willing to reproduce.

    The problem with the Covid-19 “vaccines” is that they actually are not vaccines, but tools derived from gene therapy. Nucleic acids are injected to the patient so their body cells are stimulated into fabricating elements of the virus.
    Firstly, it is possible that some patients fabricate too much viral elements, creating unknown adverse reactions in the human body.

    Secondly, and much worse, this vaccination is presented on the false basis that only DNA can message RNA.
    This basis is undoubtedly false: we know that human DNA can also be messaged by RNA thanks to an enzyme called reverse transcriptase, capable of transcribing backwards from RNA to DNA.
    This means that the vaccination process could act as a rogue process and alter a person’s DNA, who would then transmit it to their offspring.

    • 谢谢: Alexandros
    • 回复: @CanSpeccy
    , @Herald
  318. @CanSpeccy

    Thanks. My LOL was a marginally better choice than Agree because it had certainly occurred to me almost a year ago that Covid 19 could be good for public finances. Of course the main motive for any politician was going to be avoidance of blame and electoral rettribution. So I don’t think many of them would have been allowing themselves to think about the money side of it.

  319. @Ron Unz

    Alfred includes in a later comment a link to

    https://nationalfile.com/busted-cdc-inflated-covid-numbers-accused-of-violating-federal-law/

    which could be very important if it is sound and honest careful science.

    It is asking a lot of you to read and analyse it but I have sent it to an old friend who was a highly respected Professor of Medicine and, subsequently, Australia’s Chief Medical Officer. I simply asked him if it could be correct. His answer (which I can guarantee is 100% honest) was
    “No X, it couldn’t!
    I have known Fauci in days gone by and can vouch for his integrity.”

    The only trouble is Fauuci doesn’t run the CDC as I understand it, so, assuming my friend is right, what can one make of the idea that an organisation he doesn’t (I presume) directly control has played such a disturbing hand?

    • 回复: @daniel le mouche
  320. Alfred 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    the preventive measures have been very effective against Covid 19 in several countries, including Australia.

    Here is a chart showing Covid “cases” versus deaths for the past few years in Australia. Can you see any connection whatsoever between these two variables? I cannot. No reasonable person can. The fake first wave and the fake second wave did not even cause a ripple.

    This means that the lockdowns of Australia and the current closure of borders are for a totally different purpose. The fact that they would like to do this for Canada is further confirmation that there is no science behind their claims.

    Provisional Mortality Statistics (Australia Jan – Oct 2020)

    • 谢谢: Dumbo
  321. @Ron Unz

    根据约翰·霍普金斯大学(Johns Hopkins University)的数据,仅在美国,疾病控制与预防中心(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)的数据显示,到475,000月初,就有281,000多例超额死亡,这一时间范围还包括与Covid-19相关的约XNUMX例死亡。

    Unfortunately I do not have a subscription to WSJ and so am unable to read the articles you posted. However, as I read your quoted passage, it seems 475K should not be added with the 281K. Rather the 281K deaths linked to Covid-19 are a subset of the total 475K excess deaths. Now, even granting that 281K died from Covid-19, we still have 194K excess deaths not linked to Covid-19.

    Now, I agree with you that total deaths should be the thing we are interested in. So the question that arises, which gets to the essence of the article, is what are the causes of the excess deaths. As I and others have documented in this thread, a preponderance of the deaths attributed to Covid19 are among individuals who are very old and health compromised already. Alfred provided a link, which if followed, leads to a detailed study that focuses on changes to the CDC guidelines for documenting deaths related to Covid-19. Now, if you scroll down to page 20 of the document, you have a chart showing the US Covid-19 death totals under the CDC’s new guidelines compared to what the authors contend would be the actual deaths if standard CDC guidelines were being used: 161,392 vs. 9,684 (as of 10/2020).

    https://jdfor2020.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/adf864_165a103206974fdbb14ada6bf8af1541.pdf

    Now, this is yet more evidence that Covid-19 deaths are being inflated, but to your point, even if deaths are being misattributed to Covid-19, the deaths have still taken place. So, if the official explanation is not the answer, what is? Furthermore, even if we acknowledge that 161K or 281K are indeed due to Covid-19, what explains the 475K total?

    Well, maybe the Lockdowns! How so? Well let’s think of some reasons: 1) people not seeking timely treatment for other conditions due to fears of Covid-19; 2) diminished immune systems due to lack of sunlight, anxiety, depression and substance abuse; 3) increased crime and domestic violence; 4) long-term wearing of masks that reduce oxygen, make the heart work harder and likely lead to increased risk for bacterial pneumonia; 5) insufficient medical resources to treat patients due to massive layoffs at medical facilities due to people not seeking regular treatments. (The authors of the above paper also mention the pressure on the medical community not to administer hydroxychloroquine or nutrient therapies as contributing to the higher number of Covid-19 fatalities.)

    Now, one might be inclined to put these deaths all under the header of Covid-19, direct or indirect. But that would seem to be specious reasoning in my book. Perhaps they are due to the policies enacted to “combat” Covid-19 and then, in turn, those deaths are being attributed to the virus by means of bad diagnostic tools and lax reporting guidelines in order to justify the policies.

    Now, does any of this disprove a bioweapon hypothesis? No. But it might make us ask what is the exact nature of the bioweapon and what was its purpose? Perhaps what has been released is a infectious variant of a coronavirus that is not very deadly but that the perpetrators knew would knock out a lot of old people a little earlier than they would have died under normal conditions, thus bunching up deaths that would have otherwise been spread out a bit more over the course of the next year or so. The purpose was to create a panic that would become the justification for the deadly authoritarian power grab and wealth transfer we are currently experiencing.

    Anyway, thanks as always for your providing us with this platform, taking the time to throw your hat in the ring, and making us think harder about our positions.

    • 谢谢: Alfred
  322. Alfred 说:

    Further evidence that even the most ancient and reputable of medical journals is corrupt and not to be trusted. I wonder how many lives could have been saved if this medication were widely available in the USA and elsewhere in the “advanced” countries?

    A leading medical journal has issued a retraction of their endorsement for a study that concluded the anti-viral drug hydroxychloroquine was ineffective against the COVID-19 virus. This retraction appears to validate the claims then-President Trump made about the medication being a frontline drug in the battle in the pandemic.

    As Biden Became President, Medical Journal Quietly Retracted Study That Claimed Hydroxychloroquine Is Ineffective

  323. thotmonger 说:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    Cockamamie overreaction can cause a lot of hurt too. Global lockdown on “behalf” of public health can also be evaluated in these terms:

    –> education for hundreds of millions of children stalled;
    –> national economies derailed plunging hundreds of millions into poverty;
    –> political exploitation including election malfeasance + mass censorship eroding voter confidence, civil liberties… risking if not instigating civil unrest;
    –> vast vaccination mandates w/o clear long term safety data..,

    The negative health effects almost certainly induced in each one of these realms of our society is humungous. Yet dissent alone keeps getting treated as the only risk. Why?

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  324. @Wizard of Oz

    Well, of course you are correct about Australia, but this has no bearing on my argument. Of course when you lock the whole country down and/or there is perfect compliance by the population in regards to social isolation and/or masks, there cannot be spreading of either virus. But in countries where those measures have been partial and/or the compliance has been less than total, there has been an enormous difference in outcome regarding the spreading of the two viruses which is not explained by their intrinsic differences alone (I think). That is the enigma that should be addressed.

  325. Tom Rogers 说:

    [quote] “We here ask and answer the question, what caused that excess of deaths? The answer will not be certain, but will be the simplest possible explanation. By Occam’s razor we are obliged to take it. [unquote]

    I stopped reading at that point. We are not obliged to do any such thing.

    I don’t agree with the hysteria over Covid-19 at all. I think the lockdowns and mandatory requirements are an outrageous and disproportionate infringement of civil liberties, but the arguments need to be better from our side.

  326. Tom Rogers 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    I think you and Mr Kollerstrom are confusing habeas corpus with corpus delicti. This error, and the fact that Mr Kollerstrom does not appear to understand Occam’s razor, does not inspire confidence.

    In any event, he is not a meticulous researcher. He writes and comments in the classic tradition of a propagandist: he gets his facts wrong (see above), comes up with wild scandalised explanations for ordinary occurrences, and twists things.

    I should add that my views seem to coincide with yours and his to a significant extent. I disagree with the Covid-19 hysteria too and I oppose the restrictions.

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  327. Tom Rogers 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    Please define in plain layman’s terms what you would consider to be ‘isolation’ of a strain of SARS-CoV-2.

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  328. cranc 说:
    @Ron Unz

    我在某个时候在评论中发布了这个。
    https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2021/01/15/final-report-on-swedish-mortality-2020-anno-covid/
    描述了各种死亡率统计数据的所有细节以及它们是如何使用的(英文),并来源于官方统计。 它考虑了年龄人口统计、医院容量变化和其他几个因素。
    瑞典春季死亡率激增。 总体而言,全因死亡率表明 2020 年就像“严重的流感年”,与 1918 年的大流行完全不同。
    本篇 is 世界毁灭,它 is 被媒体忽视了,它 is 不可否认,官方统计证实了这一点。 瑞典是封锁实验的对照。
    我们生活在一个陌生的世界里,大多数人可能会被“吓到”(用 Bhakdi 的话来说)相信一种被炒作的病毒,它的到来恰好与自爆(2019 年 2020 月)同时发生,然后诱发昏迷(XNUMX 年 XNUMX 月) ) 的全球金融体系。

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  329. Dumbo 说:
    @9593

    appear to me to show the effectiveness of enforced lock down in quelling the deaths from covid – 19.

    Hypotheticals don’t do it. If you want to prove something, you need a control group.

    Countries such as Japan and Sweden did not do a lockdown.

    And yet, they did not have “millions of deaths”. Actually, they did quite well.

    Ergo, lockdowns do NOT work.

    And, contrary to “COVID”, they are proven to KILL. Through poverty or despair. Most of the old people who died in the nurse homes, died because they were abandoned there, not because of “Covid”. Just check what happened in countries such as Canada.

    • 不同意: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @Rufus Clyde
    , @9593
  330. Dumbo 说:
    @thotmonger

    The extremely negative effects of lockdown are proven, while the “millions of deaths” invented by the lockdown proponents never materialize. Except in hypothetical theories such as “if we hadn’t done a lockdown, a lot more people would have died”.

    It is not clear at all this is true. Also, many people died (of other diseases, or even suicide), because of the lockdown.

    There are countries that did not do a lockdown, and were fine (or had similar numbers to countries that did). Also, there were countries in which they may have in theory done a lockdown, but it wasn’t really respected. Yet, they were fine too. Not much different from countries who were more draconian.

    Conclusion: lockdown doesn’t work (and it’s not an efficient solution in any case, given that it causes more problem than it solves). It’s being mandated for other reasons.

    • 同意: Alfred
  331. @Alfred

    The chart and the link are both entirely consistent with the various restrictions and other measures working well in Australia – apart from Victoria for a while when hotel quarantine for arrivals from outside Australia was bungled and led to some “community transmission”. In fact it is about what you would expect when, apart from the Victorian blip, there have been very few Covid deaths and some decline in deaths from other respiratory diseases because isolation has had effects on those as well.

    • 巨魔: Alfred
    • 回复: @Dumbo
    , @Alfred
  332. @cranc

    我知道实际上在瑞典有很多事实上的自愿舔阴,所以不是一个完美的控制案例。 更重要的是,与其他实行封锁且死亡人数少得多的斯堪的纳维亚国家相比,瑞典的 Covid 死亡率大不相同。

    • 回复: @cranc
  333. xcd 说:
    @Dumbo

    After 2 weeks in quarantine, the follow-up test may show a positive result. This happened to a relative visiting Australia for a critical matter. The spouse in the same room (negative) was therefore also quarantined for 2 more weeks.

  334. Dumbo 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    No, the only thing it shows is that there is very little correlation between “covid cases” and “excess deaths”, and that “Covid” killed less than whatever killed people in other years, when there was no lockdown and no pandemic. Only idiots would think that it proves that “the lockdowns worked”.

    That’s the same as that old joke, about that guy who says he hunts pink elephants, and when someone replies that pink elephants don’t exist, he replies, “of course, I hunted them all”. It’s the same argument, “there are not so many more deaths because lockdown works”.

  335. Alfred 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    working well in Australia

    So every time there is influenza coming out of China, Australia should lockdown?

    Please stop lying about the situation in Australia. If you want, present data but stop making assertions that are only backed by your non-existent credibility.

    Australia has become a luxurious version of Gaza – which was the objective all along. Next year, we will find out how many suicides there were in 2020 – if the corrupt politicians don’t hide the data.

    They have already hidden the influenza deaths data since 15 June 2020. Here is the last “weekly” report. The numbers were collapsing because they needed to bolster the fake Covid numbers. The chart below shows this very clearly.

    Australian Influenza Surveillance Report – No 05 – week ending 14 June 2020

    ILI == Influensa-Like Illness

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  336. Dumbo 说:
    @Alfred

    ALL CHARTS for ALMOST ALL COUNTRIES show the same pattern. See here the one from Germany:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/22/german-lockdown-to-remain-in-place-despite-drop-in-infection-rate-covid

    – An increase in cases/deaths in Mar-April 2002 and then a similar “bump” in Dec-Feb. 2020/21.

    Curiously, the months where there was no lockdown (SUMMER), there was a REDUCTION in the number of cases and deaths. Conclusion? Lockdown doesn’t work at all! Actually, maybe it increases death!

    Oh, and “coincidentally”, the peak of the disease always occurs always in or near Winter. A time when we also have a peak of flu or other respiratory diseases. Further proving that lockdowns are useless or evil, and that Covid is a lie, ant that the vaccine either won’t work (cases and deaths are already being reduced before the vaccine), or, that it will make things worse.

    How stupid can people be! Wake up COW-VIDiots. LOL.

    • 同意: acementhead
    • 谢谢: Alfred
  337. Regarding the spikes in deaths at the beginning of the “pandemic”. The following youtube video gives some truly interesting and unexpected insights.

    It features New Zealand doctor Sam Bailys Interview with Virus Mania’s Dr Claus Köhnlein.
    Well worth a look as you don’t find many true experts who debunk the official narrative.

    • 谢谢: Carolyn Yeager, Alfred, Reaper
    • 回复: @Carolyn Yeager
  338. @Alfred

    阿尔弗雷德,

    The case of Australia and others (New Zealand, Thailand, etc.) seems to indicate that the PCR test is valid and dispels some of the criticisms we read about it giving false results. Clearly the PRC test is not giving any false positives in these countries that have almost eliminated Covid-19 from circulation. And they use the same test in quarantine as outside it, and in quarantine they do sometimes see positive results among travellers waiting for them to be healed before allowing them to go outside in the public. If the PCR test is generating false results then we would expect a greater prevalence of false positives both in and outside quarantine. If one claims that they set the number of cycles so that they don’t get as many false positives as countries with far greater Covid-19 prevalence then they shouldn’t be seeing Covid-19 positive test results in quarantine among travellers from those countries.

    • 回复: @Alfred
  339. cranc 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    在瑞典,有一些限制,但至关重要的是,学校保持开放,企业保持开放,没有人戴口罩,人们没有被锁在家里,他们的生活通常很少参加大规模聚会。
    这与我们与白俄罗斯一样接近控制,白俄罗斯在 2020 年的死亡率似乎也正常。瑞典和其他封锁国家的感染曲线形状相同。
    与邻国进行比较是不合理的。 比利时也是西北欧,我认为比瑞典有严格的限制和更高的死亡率。 变化很可能是由于“干火种效应”造成的,瑞典 2019 年肯定有一个温和的流感季节(看看之前链接的文章中的死亡率)。
    在比较不同的国家政策时,封锁和死亡率之间没有经过证实的相关性——更不用说因果关系了。 如果阅读大众媒体之外的内容,有许多学术论文会引起我们的注意:
    https://inproportion2.talkigy.com/do_lockdowns_work_2021-01-15.html

    不过,这一切都已经过去了。 瑞典 2020 年的总体死亡率与其他任何地方一样,完全平淡无奇。 如果真的有一种致命的病毒在世界范围内传播,我们所能希望的最好的方法就是减缓它的传播。 (这是 2020 年初公共卫生发言人发出的过度信息)。
    然而,一年过去了,死亡率显然是正常的,现在上升很可能是由于破坏经济和限制获得基本医疗服务的连锁反应,除非你“感染了新冠病毒”。

    再次查看数字,将 2020 年与 1918 年进行比较。这是一个完全不同的场景。 在英国,过去 11 年中有 50 年 降低 到 2020 年的死亡率。
    它是 99% 的炒作,纯粹而简单。

    • 同意: R2b
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  340. @Ordinary guy

    Excellent, excellent information. Sorry that the Australian woman doctor interviewing Dr. Koehnlein is such a silly, giggly creature, but he is quite extraordinary. God help mankind if the German people are ever bred out of existence. His dogged commitment to the Truth is exactly why the Liars who only want to make money off human degradation have been so keen on destroying Germany.

    This video should be widely circulated. Please help do so …

    • 回复: @Reaper
  341. @Iris

    Yes, when you introduce foreign nucleic acids into a cell, interesting things can happen. To do this on a population-wide scale without comprehensive long-term evaluation seems rash to the point of imbecility. In that connection, there was is an interesting news headline today:

    Daily Mail February 2, 2021: SAGE experts ‘tried to get No10 to close borders WEEKS ago over South African variant’: Boris Johnson is accused of ignoring warnings as surge testing starts in eight postcodes in desperate battle to contain virus strain

    Does that indicate, one wonders, maneuvering by SAGE “experts” (none of whom is a well qualified immunologist) to put the blame on BoJo if vaccine recipients start dying like flies due to a vaccine-induced antibody-dependent enhancement of infectivity and pathogenicity of Covid strains other than the Wuhan strain against which the vaccines have been developed?

    • 谢谢: Peripatetic Itch
  342. 这些数字表明,造成超额死亡的原因是封锁本身而不是任何病毒。

    It could be a combination of both. Maybe during lockdown periods the level of social isolation is actually smaller than outside those periods. Younger people get out more than older ones. When they are free to go out, they mostly interact with other young people, who rarely get seriously ill. Or, in many cases, they just go to places where infection is very unlikely, like parks, beaches, etc. During lockdowns those younger people — some of whom may have been infected before lockdown started — are forced to interact in closed spaces with their relatives or housemates, thus increasing the probability of passing a virus to them. It’s an infection multiplication process, and it hits precisely the most vulnerable people.

    A striking example of this is Manaus, one of the worst Covid-hit cities in the whole world. Manaus is one of the cities where it rains the most in the world. The rainy season is from December to May. That’s when people stay at home the most. Most of the houses have a large number of people living in a small space. Coincidentally, the start of that season is exactly when we’ve seen surges of cases/deaths by Covid-19. You don’t need a government-imposed lockdown in this case. Nature does the job by itself.

    • 回复: @Herald
  343. @blaqua

    You want us to believe that the coronavirus doesn’t exist or doesn’t kill?

    Stop putting words into my mouth. You were the one who said CoV-2 had been definitively isolated and established on accepted criteria. You were the one who pointed us to two sources you said were absolutely accurate and reliable. I went to your sources and found them deficient on scientific grounds and asked you to prove me wrong. You couldn’t be bothered. Instead you resort to the usual ad homs, like this:

    Who is a more reliable source of information, you and your possibly outdated thesis or the mass of professionals fighting at the front of the pandemic war, and not lounging around behind a PC screen?

    I discern you are including yourself among that “mass of professionals who are fighting at the front of the pandemic war”. Having no idea what that gobbledygook means, maybe you would care to inform us. So are you perhaps:

    An unemployed computer IT guy stuck at home in your parents’ basement and implementing e-trades on 罗宾汉 to short squeeze those evil hedge funds? or perhaps,

    A British bobby clearing the English streets of recalcitrant coffee drinkers and snowball throwers? or perhaps

    An ICU nurse employed by Mr. Cuomo to ramp up the pressure on Covid ventilators and solve his unfunded pension-liability problem?

    想问的人想知道。

    • 回复: @blaqua
  344. Alfred 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    The case of Australia and others (New Zealand, Thailand, etc.) seems to indicate that the PCR test is valid.

    The PCR comes in a cassette. It is pre-programmed with things like the number of cycles. It is extremely easy to contaminate it in advance. This allows those who control this charade to decide who many positives, if any, they want.

    All of this is very easy when the companies making these tests are working in cooperation with governments. Please take off your blinkers and try to understand that this operation was planned to the minutest detail many years ago.

    COVID-19 抗原快速检测

    This certainly explains how the president of Tanzania got positive results from goat and papaya. China is obviously in on the game to change the US president and destroy the economies of the West. FYI, almost no one has allegedly died from Covid in Africa – when South Africa is excluded. Compare that with the hysterics of Melinda Gates on YouTube last year.

    • 谢谢: Commentator Mike
    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  345. @CanSpeccy

    One obvious potential adverse effect of Covid vaccines now being administered despite the absence of long-term trials, is antibody dependent enhancement of viral infection or ADE.

    Just found this article showing that Syncytin-1 has been found in human male gametes as well as female oocytes. It seems to have, moreover, a very important role in reproduction:

    Syncytin 及其受体存在于人类配子中,其定位和时间外观与卵母细胞和精子融合的可能作用一致。

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261257414_Syncytin-1_and_its_receptor_is_present_in_human_gametes

    您可能还记得,Syncytin 是人们担心疫苗对女性生育能力影响的原因。 这个想法是疫苗会刺激免疫反应,在这种反应中,身体会攻击生殖细胞或卵母细胞,并用抗体摧毁它们。 这个想法过去曾被作为一种节育方法进行研究。

    Needless to say, if there is any validity to that concern about the effect of the vaccines on female fertility, then the concern extends equally to male fertility.

    • 回复: @canspeccy
  346. Herald 说:
    @Iris

    If people are about to die, then the mRNA vaccines which aren’t vaccines will make very little difference to their prospects. For everyone else, no matter how old they are, these “vaccines” are an unacceptable and avoidable risk. They are GM biological agents masquerading as vaccines and are best described by the word scam, which also aptly describes the whole of the long planned Covid event.

  347. @Dumbo

    Nobody “did quite well”. As you cited, in Canada, but particularly in Quebec and Ontario, they panicked the residents and staff in long-term care. The frail, sick elderly were cut off from normal routines, and as at least half of all Covid deaths have dementia, this isolation absolutely contributed to the increase in mortality during both “waves”. In Quebec and Ontario, the staff, terrified of the marauding plague, abandoned their charges, and the Army had to take over. This also contributed to an increase in mortality.
    Sweden implemented extraordinary policies in terms of denial of standard medical treatment for the elderly, as well as subjecting them to the lethal isolation seen virtually everywhere, and an increase in mortality waas thus observed there.
    The PCR test continues to be ubiquitous, and thus normal mortality is rounding out the Covid “death” figures nicely when meshed with the negligent treatment of the frail, sick elderly.

  348. @Tom Rogers

    I think you and Mr Kollerstrom are confusing habeas corpus with corpus delicti.

    That is true, though they are easy to confuse given the similarity in their Latin roots. Nevertheless it is simply incomprehensible how in English common law, a man can be convicted of a murder, supposedly done in public, in view of witnesses, without real evidence of the body being presented at the trial. Solely on the basis of media reports, it seems.

    In the Jo-Cox murder, if it was a murder, there were no pictures of the body presented at Thomas Mair’s trial, and the pictures of the scene, where she was alleged to have been stabbed 15 times and lived long enough to tell her companions to get away, showed little or no evidence even of blood.

    Kollerstrom’s colleague, Richard Hall, has further analyzed this suspicious event that almost swung the Brexit vote the other way. Do understand that Hall had to be very circumspect, living under English libel law:

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Tom Rogers
  349. Anon[223]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Thanks for the lengthy response.

    Still, I’m not so sure I am convinced, though I can still be wrong.
    My final comments:

    The MSM might claim that Patient Zero was in late October or early November, but that doesn’t explain how the virus weakly spread in China in those initial days.

    Even if we admit that the US introduced the virus even in November, that is still some 90 days of the virus spreading pretty much unchecked. That’s a lot of time.

    I like to use America as a starting example, since we bungled the virus so very badly. As everyone admits, the first strains came in the mid-January, just as it did in other countries like Taiwan, and we started to pick up the first cases in February with tests. By early April, we had already exceeded the death toll of China with around 12,000 deaths, and that is with the massive CA lockdown, as well as the shutdown of NYC, two major population centers. Another thing to keep in mind is that excess deaths showed us with around 30,000 deaths by early April, indicating we were undercounting COVID deaths substantially.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

    America, for its bad government, is a nominally wealthy country with a suburbanized population, with 330 million people. China is *极其* dense, with its residents having much lower levels of income. In addition, it has something like 1.4 billion people.

    If America in 80-100 days of low-moderation action far exceeded the death tolls of China, why did China, which did nothing from early November to late January, do so vastly much better? Both America and China had the same period of “inaction” of 90 days before the respective governments took action, yet adjusting for population, America had an excess death rate something like 28x that of China’s by the end of the “inaction” period.

    Remember, under the theory, China did nothing from Nov 1st to January 23d, which is like 90 days of absolutely *零* effort to curb the virus, because none of them were aware of a virus! So, whatever happened in China should have been a *大量的* magnitude worse. America was slow, but citizens were already getting prepared and stocking up on critical masks, since they had forewarning of the virus.

    Unless COVID hits the different racial groups differently, I don’t see how the timelines could fit here. And if COVID does hit the groups differently, then it clearly is not a bioweapon aimed at the Chinese. Why would someone make a bioweapon that isn’t effective against the intended target?

    [更多]

    Also, I really doubt that not a single diplomat asked China if they were handling their problems well. After all, it is common courtesy for countries to inquire on how other countries are dealing with problems, especially if the US intelligence agencies are describing it as “cataclysmic”. After all, if one diplomat asked China what was going on, then China would have been immediately clued in that something was amiss. After all, diseases tend to spread, so if China has a “cataclysmic” disease, then you would want pertinent information.

    I disagree with the Soviet Analogy. Both the Soviets and the Americans knew about Chernobyl after the event occurred, though neither country said anything publicly until the Soviet’s decided to make a formal statement. The difference with the COVID situation is that America and all of NATO knew, and China didn’t, so all it would take was just one diplomat from some NATO country(which have serious credibility), asking China how things were going in Wuhan to break the spell of ignorance on the part of the Chinese. After all, if some German diplomat asks you about the supposed “cataclysmic” event in your country that US intelligence found, with specific information of the vector of the event(a disease) and the exact city(Wuhan), wouldn’t you check it out? So, we have to assume that 30 NATO countries knew a cataclysmic event was happening in China, but not a single one of them bothered to ask? Remember, the US described it as “cataclysmic” and unless they overreact in every intelligence briefing with flashy words, then I think reasonable people should take it seriously. Remember, lots of NATO countries are crazy, but some like Germany have a reasonable foreign policy perspective. Not a single German diplomat checked out the “cataclysmic” event in China?

    Even more incredible Xi Jinping himself visited Greece in Mid-November as well, the Greek leaders didn’t mention the cataclysmic outbreak to the Chinese President? Not even in small talk? Additionally, something like 50,000 people in Wuhan were foreigners that were airlifted out in early outbreak season. Did none of those countries, when reading that intelligence report in November, not decide to evacuate their own citizenry? Why would they wait until February to airlift their own citizens?

    My personal guess is that the Intelligence agencies were trying to cover their ass, and hand off the impact of the crisis to Trump’s admin, without realizing the implications of what they were saying. The Times of Israel just bandwagoned on that claim since it would draw attention and clicks. After all, the Times of Israel has an article about how a former Israel defense chief thinks that there are aliens that were in contact with President Trump.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-space-chief-says-aliens-may-well-exist-but-they-havent-met-humans/

    Though to be fair to your theory, an argument in favor is that maybe the virus mutated and that explains the extra lethality to Americans, though that still does not explain why no one contacted the Chinese or airlifted their foreign residents out of Wuhan region.

    • 回复: @Anon
  350. Alfred 说:

    Here’s a graph that doesn’t get shown in the mass media, and that I’m sure all those who want you to stay fearful of covid don’t want you to see. It shows the share of the tested population with antibodies to covid in Sweden week by week, beginning in the 28th week of 2020 (the first week for which the Swedish Public Health Authority provides data on the share of tests coming back positive).

    Here’s a Graph They Don’t Want You to See

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  351. @Peripatetic Itch

    Syncytin, you may remember, is the reason why concerns have been raised about the effect of vaccines on female fertility. The idea being that the vaccine would stimulate an immune reaction in which the body would attack the germ cells, or oocytes, and destroy them with antibodies.

    Listen, if this vaccine sterilizes everyone so much the better — as Bill Gates will tell you, his arms upraised in exultation.

    However, if you really want human evolution to continue through the relatively unimpeded processes of natural selection rather than according to the dictates of techie monopolist billionaires, then waiting for herd immunity would have been the way to go.

    The loss of trillions in World GDP would have been avoided; the interruption of schooling of tens if not hundreds of millions of children would have been avoided; the risk of vaccine injury or death would have been avoided; the death or prolonged misery of millions due to side-effects of lockdowns would have been avoided; and by now a large proportion of the population would have T-cell immunity to Covid19 that would last, if not a life-time, at least many years — unlike the antibody immunity created by vaccines that may not even last the duration of the current pandemic.

    As to the cost in lives of achieving herd immunity as determined from excess deaths statistics (not PCR tests that, according the the test’s inventor, Kary Mullis, Nobel Laureate, are mostly bullshit), it would likely have been little if any greater than that due to a bad flu season.

  352. 9593 说:
    @Dumbo

    If Doctor Kollerstrom has expertise in statistics, I am simply reinterpreting his data, in reliance on his method, adding only the delayed-action effect with covid.

    In this analysis were a study of relative group mortality, the “control group” would have to be people from the same population in regard to genetics, culture climate, and other factors to have the effect of, “other things being equal”. The mortality control group for American lock-downs is Americans who do not lock down.

    But we are not studying two groups; we are studying the effect of lock down on the mortality of one group on a time scale. Cause and effect. If Japan and Sweden did not lock down, there is nothing to study there about the effect of lock downs. It could be their genes, climate, sanitation.

    The one sensible contribution to this debate is from Frederick Reed, who cautions us that we are not debating the hypothetical, like who killed JFK, but we are in ignorance, poisoning the public safety by inducing people to act in a risky manner that could well lead to death. Not a good bet.

    • 回复: @canspeccy
  353. @Tom Rogers

    Please define in plain layman’s terms what you would consider to be ‘isolation’ of a strain of SARS-CoV-2.

    In theory, just the separation of the virus particles from other cells and cellular debris of any relevance. In practice, standards change over time and with improving technology, and I have not delved into the subject in great detail. Also I have no great laboratory experience. That said, I can make some general and perhaps tentative comments.

    There are a couple methods of separation that are relevant here. One is filtration to remove larger cells and debris. There is no direct mention of filtration in the study I looked at, but their use of the term supernatant suggests it may have been done. The other is centrifuging, which separates on the basis of density. I saw no indication of that. It could have, but they should say so.

    Critics of the virus theory suggest that viruses may be confused with what they call exosomes. It’s an accepted biological term, it seems, generating some 17,000 hits on PubMed, for instance:

    Exosomes are major mediators of cell-to-cell communication, and are involved in many physiological and pathological processes. …Here, we demonstrated the roles of exosomes secreted by vascular endothelial cells in the development of [Osteoarthritis].

    Then there are the breakdown products of cell structures that may well have DNA or RNA fragments among them. The question is how to distinguish the fragments from the virus at issue from the body fragments and from unrelated viruses.

    To my mind, you would probably want to do your standard techniques of separation on two samples, one tissue clearly from an infected patient and the other from a clearly healthy individual (in practice this would be two 团体 with statistical analysis). Hopefully your purified virus sample would be clear of gene fragments identical to those found in the other. Then you could do genetic analysis on the pure sample. You would also try to infect other experimental animals with it to see if you get the same disease, with all its signs and symptoms, and then try to isolate the virus once again.

    Now I see but portions of such a procedure in the studies I’ve looked at. It is difficult to determine their approach exactly, and transparency has not been forthcoming. What I think I see are some short cuts. They get a not-so-pure isolate and test it for a number of the viruses often found in cells. Finding none they deem it isolated. All fair enough. Then they give the sample to their molecular biologists, who tease out the genetic sequences.

    Of course, they make excuses for not following Koch’s four postulates: the virus is not alive, so we can’t get it to grow in a nutrient medium, like bacteria do. But they can’t do anything harsh to them as it would kill them. Sorry, they don’t ever call them excuses.

    So it’s up to each one of us to decide if the short cuts compromise their conclusions. Good question. I hope this helps.

    • 谢谢: Tom Rogers
    • 回复: @Tom Rogers
  354. @Wizard of Oz

    Fauci’s a true piece of shit. Look up what he did to Judy Mickiewitz (not sure of spelling). He stole her inventions, patented them, had her literally locked up.
    Tons of doctors and others have shown that govt numbers are inflated beyond belief–despite what your highly placed friend says (I suspect he’s very cynical if he’s that high up in the world).

    • 回复: @canspeccy
  355. blaqua 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    “You couldn’t be bothered.”
    I use common sense. When almost ALL NATIONAL AUTHORITIES have confirmed covid deaths and 82 more than 1,000 dead, I find it very arrogant and smartassed to claim that the virus is nonexistent or undangerous, or an ordinary flu. If the pandemic were an epidemic affecting one or two cities or small countries, then I may have been skeptical, but now that it has affected the whole planet there’s no room for skepticism.

    “Instead you resort to the usual ad homs, like this:”
    The smart aleck who made several ad hominem remarks against me in previous comments now complains about the one ad hominem remark I made!

    “I discern you are including yourself among that “mass of professionals who are fighting at the front of the pandemic war”. Having no idea what that gobbledygook means, maybe you would care to inform us”
    I’ll inform you since you are too senile to understand, and try to reword my sentence in simple prosaic terms. It means the doctors, nurses, health professionals in general who are working under pressure in places of high infection rate in their efforts to treat COVID patients. In Italy 179 of them died of COVID during the first wave of the pandemic (link: https://www.wfla.com/news/international/italy-honors-179-doctors-who-died-in-pandemic/ . In the UK more than 100 (https://rcni.com/nursing-standard/features/covid-19-remembering-nursing-staff-who-have-lost-their-lives-160011 ).

    In fact, as of August 2020 620 NHS deaths linked to the virus. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-nhs-deaths-healthcare-workers-covid-care-doctors-nurses-a9665386.html
    In other countries too and many of the dead young or middle-aged adults, lives lost that never reached your age. At least show some respect to the dead ones and their family members.

    • 回复: @Gray
    , @Peripatetic Itch
  356. @daniel le mouche

    Tons of doctors and others have shown that govt numbers are inflated beyond belief

    这里有更多来自 英国医学杂志 on inflation of Covid numbers.

    • 回复: @acementhead
  357. Gray 说:
    @blaqua

    Those citations about SARS-CoV-2 are either dead links leading into references to other news articles or examples of the virus being “isolated” via replication techniques.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7045880/

    “Using reverse transcriptase, cDNA was synthesized from RNA extracted from the cultured cell medium in which the virus was replicated. A next generation sequencing (NGS) library was constructed after amplifying the full-length genes of the isolates using the synthesized cDNA and primers designed based on published SARS-CoV-2 DNA sequence. The prepared library was purified and analyzed with Miseq 150 PE. De novo assembly was performed on the sequenced product using Megahit to secure a full-length genome.”

    I’m no expert however, PCR test accuracy is entirely dependant on how many cycles they choose to do when they run the test to replicate data from a small sample taken. Which the WHO just incidentally advised countries now change to provide negative results.

  358. @9593

    The one sensible contribution to this debate is from Frederick Reed

    That may be true. Alternatively, it could be that yours and Fred’s are the dumbest comments here. And in my judgement, for what it’s worth, Fred ain’t so well informed on matters scientific or biological.

  359. Gray 说:
    @blaqua

    Whats up with the moralistic rant now, did you run out of pseudo scientific Covid-19 jurno blogs to post.

  360. If you click on the @Liza and go up to the original post you will see a post about Chinese @nal swab Covid tests:

    At first I thought this was a joke. Anyway, how do you like this photo of “Anal Schwab“? LOL. “You’ll Bend Over – and You’ll Be Happy”. More LOLs.

    Literally appropriate song.

  361. @blaqua

    The smart aleck who made several ad hominem remarks against me

    Not in response to your arguments, for sure. Because you didn’t make any.

    So your sole argument now is that the virus exists because lots of people are dying, including health-care workers to whom I owe respect. Just tells me you were never capable of understanding the cites you told us to look at. You had no idea whether they were as accurate and as reliable as you claimed. A total phony.

    It’s clear you are just another shill for Bill and Melinda.

    At least show some respect to the dead ones and their family members.

    In which group are you?

    • 同意: Nancy
    • 回复: @blaqua
  362. blaqua 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    “Not in response to your arguments, for sure. Because you didn’t make any.”

    I presented accurate reliable sites and FACTS. You didn’t present anything of value or accuracy. You just boasted of your 60 years of experience at analyzing medical literature and your godforsaken thesis when you had trouble at persuading me! 60 years weren’t enough to make you wise!

    “your sole argument now is that the virus exists because lots of people are dying”

    Okay then tell me your arguments that the virus does NOT exist. Come on then! Give us your research that disproves the findings of health professionals around the WHOLE WORLD, not just around a single geographical region.

    “It’s clear you are just another shill for Bill and Melinda.’
    It’s clear you are just another shill for the Chinese government.

    “In which group are you?”
    You belong to the group of idiots (that’s what you first need to know). A shame to the medical community.

  363. @Reaper

    Great passionate stuff. And people are led to make fun of Adolf Hitler’s passionate speeches. It just so happens that “firebrand” Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz is German (by his name) and Donald Trump is half German.
    I get pretty passionate myself. It’s hard to contain.

  364. cranc 说:

    对于所有仍在争论这完全与病毒有关的人,请注意

    3.9 年 18 月 31 日至 2020 月 11.95 日期间,全球亿万富翁的财富增加了 XNUMX 万亿美元。他们的总财富现在为 XNUMX 万亿美元。

    政府不是在拯救人民的生命,而是在采取行动的超级富有的寡头的代理人 完成 通过政府授权控制世界。

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/02/viral-inequality-from-jeff-bezos-to-the-struggle-of-indian-farmers/

  365. R2b 说:
    @Nick Kollerstrom

    你知道尼克,我并不惊讶 Ron Unz 专注于最弱点。
    我 110% 同意你的看法,但必须解决高峰!
    总体死亡人数是否像瑞典一样与 2013 年相似并不重要。
    covid1984 的死亡人数是否略高于 0,1% 并不重要。
    你必须证明 FT 的统计数据是被操纵的,或者提供一个解释。
    如果峰值与锁定相关,您如何科学地做到这一点?

  366. @cranc

    这个帖子上有人反对亿万富翁正在剥削我们其他人吗? 这篇文章的标题声称没有大流行。 这就是引起争议的原因。

    • 同意: Iris
  367. Anon[223]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    Actually, I realized that I had made a small mistake in this argument, but one that greatly(!!) makes my point.

    As you pointed out, the NYT said that the covid entered China in late October.

    By the end of the 100 day mark, when China started lockdowns at Jan 23rd, China’s gov confirmed 17 deaths, with the bulk of their 4,600 deaths occurring during the lockdowns, as the virus takes some time before killing the victim.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/.

    So 100 days of unchecked COVID killed a grand total of 17 Chinese… simply a tremendous bioweapon!

    The American government, at the 100 day mark, mentioned that the COVID killed 12,000.

    So, if we take the data of the two governments at face value, the 28x death disparity that I pointed out is actually a 705x(!) death disparity between the US and China. If we use excess deaths instead as a metric, the death disparity is 1765x(!!!!).

    America had 705x more victims per capita of coronavirus at the 100 day mark of the Patient Zero in their country than China did after 100 days of coronavirus!

    So, if the virus entered China in October, and was intended as a bioweapon, then it was the most ineffective bioweapon in the history of the world…

    I am now strongly convinced that the bioweapon theory is untrue, and if it somehow was, it would be the stupidest bioweapon attempt in all of human history. If anything, this strongly makes China look *非常* more suspect than the United States. The US launched a bioweapon that killed 17 Chinese in a 100 days, but would kill 705x as many Americans with equally little restrictions in the same time frame?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  368. @cranc

    The best way to understand what politicians to whom popularity matters have done is to count on them being scared to be blamed for high mortality, even if only amongst the old and vulnerable. Almost every decision flows from that and , to the extent that economic disaster is being stave off by central banks creating more money the losses to those of the old who rely on traditional real interest rates may be offset in several ways from a political leader’s short to medium point of view, including opportunities for some of the young to take advantage of low interest rates. Today’s politicians ought to be grateful to Japan’s inventing QE followed by the central bankers buying something pretty close to NMT.

  369. @cranc

    Tell us, as you are so certain, which billionaires are these oligarchs who are taking control with uniform, or at least compatible views? You have to exclude Warren Buffett don’t you? Or are you privy to his nightly calls to all those East and South Asian biionaires that somehow he gets through? Do billionaire oligarchs have a representative House of Lords which only a manageable number of them are elected to so they all have a chance to speak? Who is your favourite oligarch, who your least favourite, and why? And do they all communicate basically in English?

    • 回复: @cranc
  370. Marckus 说:
    @Ray Caruso

    Magic Dirt and Blaqua took anal swabs for the virus. I would posit they tested each other.

    Could this be why their mental capacities are compromised ?

  371. @Alfred

    What is your inference from that? What alternative explanations can you enumerate?

    • 回复: @Alfred
  372. The best way to understand what politicians to whom popularity matters have done is to count on them being scared to be blamed for high mortality, even if only amongst the old and vulnerable.

    So they kicked elderly Covid patients out of hospital and forced them into care homes where they would spread the disease among the most vulnerable citizens and kill thousands of them.

    And that wasn’t just the policy of Governor Cuomo of New York, it was British Government policy from the outset of the epidemic. What government policy was in Canada I am not sure, but whatever the government did to minimize Covid deaths didn’t extend to preventing mass slaughter in the care homes where Covid deaths have accounted for 72% of the national total. And now the morons are mass vaccinating elderly people with an untested vaccine, of unknown efficacy in elderly people.

    Yeah, thank God governments are scared of we the people.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  373. @Ron Unz

    Your description of your preferred explanation as speculative seems at odds with the high degree of belief which you also express. Your genuine interest in finding evidence for or against the prima facie improbable thesis that American Deep State rogues brought about a disaster which could certainly have resulted from natural or accidental causes requires serious efforts to unearth the truth about your key evidence. There must be quite a number of intelligence and/or health related bodies to whom FOI requests can be made with some hope of a crack in any wall around roguish secrecy emerging. And/or encourage members of Congessional committees to ask pertinent questions. What’s the state of play?

  374. Ron Unz 说:
    @Anon

    Actually, I realized that I had made a small mistake in this argument, but one that greatly(!!) makes my point.

    As you pointed out, the NYT said that the covid entered China in late October.

    If you’re interested in the plausible Chinese timeline, I worked it out last year, and the figures seem perfectly consistent with a late October introduction:

    https://www.unz.com/article/last-man-standing/?showcomments#comment-3790797

    So 100 days of unchecked COVID killed a grand total of 17 Chinese… simply a tremendous bioweapon!

    You’re totally confused on the issue. Nobody argues that Covid-19 was primarily an “antipersonnel” bioweapon. Instead, it was obviously an “anti-economy” bioweapon, wrecking an economy once it spreads and becomes endemic, even though it only kills 0.5%-1% of its victims.

    All mainstream analysts would agree that if the Chinese hadn’t stamped it out early on by locking down 700 million(!!!) people it would have very rapidly spread exponentially throughout the entire country, becoming totally endemic, wrecking China’s economy and probably also killing at least a few million Chinese. Now it’s instead wrecked the American economy.

    The American government, at the 100 day mark, mentioned that the COVID killed 12,000.

    That’s probably not correct. No one knows exactly when Covid-19 entered America, but some time in December is probably a good guess. Our first known fatality was early Feb., someone with no connection to China, and there’s usually at least 3-4 weeks between infection and death. Moreover, Covid-19 tends to spread very erratically, with most victims infecting no one else, but a few infecting large numbers.

    So your 17 death figure is about 80-90 days after Chinese Patient Zero, while I think your 12,000 US death figure is more like 130-140 days after American Patient Zero. Given the exponential spread of the disease, with 3-5 day doublings, an extra month or so can make a huge difference.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @CanSpeccy
    , @Anon
    , @Biff
  375. @CanSpeccy

    Try and remember the time when you cared a damn about what anybody thought of you or your opinions or preferences. Consider then what someone able to affect policy or practice on a possible pandemic and wants to retain the support of those that keep him in his position by votes or whatever will logically do.

    I suggest that the first fear of an unprepared government will be blame for not having enough ICU beds and staff or not enough ventilators for whatever may happen.

    • 回复: @canspeccy
  376. @Ron Unz

    How do you reconcile your thesis that rogue elements used the cover of the military games with a number of reports of evidences of the virus in sewage, nursing homes etc months earlier than the games? Do you regard none of them as reliable or do you see consistency with a plausible explanation for how the rogue elements got their hands on the virus?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @acementhead
  377. @Ron Unz

    Nobody argues that Covid-19 was primarily an “antipersonnel” bioweapon. Instead, it was obviously an “anti-economy” bioweapon

    But given that the Davos set are so keen to put us on “a new and more sustainable course,” the inference, surely, is that covid was an economic weapon directed by Western elites at Western economies, which have certainly been set on a new and perhaps more sustainable course, with a significantly reduced GDP and many fewer pesky Mom and Pop businesses in the way of consolidation by the monopolistic corporate giants.

    A further plus, is that the virus greatly diminished Trump’s chance of re-election, a consequence much to be desired by America’s globalist corporate and financial elites strongly opposed to Trump’s mechantilist trade policy.

    As for the place from which the virus spread, it seems open to question whether it appeared first in China rather than, say, 巴塞罗那,西班牙 in the spring of 2019, or even, perhaps, California in the fall of 2019.

    But if intended by “global stakeholders” as an economic weapon to drive 伟大的重置, why would it not have been seeded from multiple locations throughout the world? From each point of origin it would take months for the spread of the virus to become noticeable, by which time the actual point of origin would be virtually impossible to determine.

    • 回复: @acementhead
  378. Ron Unz 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    How do you reconcile your thesis that rogue elements used the cover of the military games with a number of reports of evidences of the virus in sewage, nursing homes etc months earlier than the games?

    All those “reports” seem totally unreliable or outright garbage.

    The most important characteristic of Covid-19 is that it’s *极其* contagious. Absent strong public health measures, it tends to spread very rapidly, doubling every 3-5 days. If it had been present in those places as early as claimed, within a month or two, everyone would have been *非常* 意识到这一点。

    There must be quite a number of intelligence and/or health related bodies to whom FOI requests can be made with some hope of a crack in any wall around roguish secrecy emerging. And/or encourage members of Congessional committees to ask pertinent questions.

    I don’t think that secret reports of the Defense Intelligence Agency are subject to successful FOIA requests, especially when the DIA now claims that they never existed in the first place. And good luck with encouraging Congressional investigating committees to attempt to discover whether the true cause of a likely million American deaths was an American biowarfare attack…

    • 巨魔: Chinaman
  379. @Peripatetic Itch

    Your premise is ridiculous.  Murder can be proved without any body having been found as surely you must recall.   And where there is available evidence in the shape of an injured body (for example) the prosecution normally doesn’t have to prove what is admitted freely by the defence. Indeed the defence probably thought in the case you cite that the jury (or indeed the sentencing judge) might be inflamed against the defendant by sight of the injuries. Sorry, I amend what I have just written in a minor way to concede that I have just read that the defendant refused even to plead Not Guilty. Nonetheless he would have been taken to so plead and, also, if he had it put to him that he had killed the MP and he did not deny it when common sense says an innocent man would have that would be evidence that the prosecution could as a jury to accept.

    • 回复: @Alexandros
  380. Alexandros 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I don’t think the defendant gets to decide what evidence will be allowed. I think the point is that when you don’t have proof of a body and you don’t even have proof of a defendant, then the case could easily be completely made up. Not like the media establishment hasn’t told lies before.

    Makes sense too, to do it like that. You get the public outrage and political capital from the murder, but no actual murder has been committed, so if caught, there’s no crime. All the benefits of murder but none of the drawbacks. To pull it off you need a media and government apparatus willing to play ball, and that will be much easier if there’s no actual capital crime involved. You don’t have to ask the police to suppress the investigation because there is no investigation, you don’t have to ask the journalists to cover up a murder, just lie like they do everyday etc.

  381. @Ron Unz

    Fair enough with the probably “garbage”. I long ago ceased putting any weight on such reports as I reasoned that someone credible, or at least interested, would take it up and we would hear more – not least from the Chinese!

    Apart from suggesting that you or your delegate try out FOIA I do not agree with your view that it would be hopeless to use Congressional committees to pursue the inquiries in more depth. In the first place it would not be inquiring about an “American biowarfare attack” but accusations that treacherous rogues had sought to do whatever a McCarthyite imagination might conjure up and associate the other side of politics with.
    Equally I wasn’t envisaging a committee resolution to inquire or issue sub points. Rather I saw it as a way that an individual Congressman or Senator could raise his profile. One approach might be that this awful fellow Unz has been defaming his country and we really must get to the bottom of it. While you may be right that the great majority of politicians would prefer to leave cans of worms unopened there is a long history of individuals who, for good, bad, or mad motives would take the risk of sticking their necks out.

    Addendum to my earlier quote of my respected medical friend who knew Fauci…. I pointed out to him that Fauci didn’t run CDC and he replied

    “Fauci is not a CDC operative but he and they are intimately involved. He would not countenance the sort of behaviour that CDC is accused of ; he would call it out.

    It’s a load of conspiratorial crap, in both substance and tone.”.

    Of course it soon ceases, in institutional life, to be a source of surprise that so many people put their signatures to crap. But still…. why?

  382. @Wizard of Oz

    “… the rogue elements got their hands on the virus?”

    The rogue elements got their hands on “the virus” the same way that the rogue elements got their hands on Ames; from Fort Deitrick. You might remember “The Camel Club”, a criminal conspiracy, so sure of themselves that they operated openly. But then that wasn’t such a good idea apparently so likely subsequent “rogue elements” started keeping their mouths shut.

    Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost is the only rational way to measure the fatal impact of “the virus”. It can also be usefully used to measure the non-fatal damage of the “lockdown” insanity(and the non-fatal effect in actual cases).

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  383. Anonymous[395]• 免责声明 说:
    @Schuetze

    Thanks for the response. My random thoughts are as follows:
    1. Putin may know this is a hoax and faked the sputnik vax but then he is distributing it around the world to Brazil etc. Tough to know if his intelligence got info from Wuhan what was really going on in China. Putin has been close to Xi past few years thanks to the US demonizing both.
    2. I think just like in the WWII time frame the Jewish people although small in population have their own elite who are extremely powerful and reside in the western world (the oligarchs) and scheme with the elite in Israel but don’t really care much for their own hoi polloi. Didn’t Soros pretend to be a goy and turned in other jews during the Nazi occupation? So lot of poor jews may not be in on anything their group elite planned for the world and may be sacrificed just like other goyim. They may feel a fraternity with their religious brethren but it may be misplaced. In this context oligarchs regardless of religion collude (WEF) to retain and grow their power at the expense of the majority at large. It is just that lot of them are Jewish and give their entire group a bad name. Not that the effects for the average guy is any different whether this fact is true or not. There sure is some trickle-down benefits for the average jew due to the strong network than the average white guy. Such networks exist with other ethnic groups too like Italians, Poles, Irish, Chinese etc in the US to a certain extent although dilutes over generations.

    • 回复: @Schuetze
  384. @Ron Unz

    The Troll tag from “Chinaman” is interesting if truly aimed at you. He comes across as educated intelligent and ahyper realist with no illusions about his support for the CC being because its members are really sweet and cuddly.

    Maybe, just maybe, he would agree with my earlier speculation that China would have found a way to support your thesis if it were plausible to the Chinese government.

    • 回复: @Chinaman
  385. @CanSpeccy

    But if intended by “global stakeholders” as an economic weapon to drive the great reset, why would it not have been seeded from multiple locations throughout the world? From each point of origin it would take months for the spread of the virus to become noticeable, by which time the actual point of origin would be virtually impossible to determine.

    I believe that it was spread from multiple locations originally, and quite possibly more since. As you say that makes it impossible to find case zero, which is in fact the situation.

  386. Chinaman 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I haven’t seen any student of physics who have remains ever more dogmatic and incorrigible in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence that contradicts his fanciful conspiracy theories. It is really sad.

    You have fundamentally misunderstood the simple math of exponential growth and compounding….the point is that it starts off *very slowly* from patient zero and then compounds.

    We are witnessing several isolated outbreaks in different parts of China now due to overseas arrivals ( mainly white people) and imported food. Most Chinese have let down their guard since October last year and does not wear mask or practice social distancing anymore. The conditions are similar to its initial introduction into China last year and they are like controlled experiments and mini-Wuhan where we can observe and model how the virus spread in the early stages. ( remember doing experiments and not just theories ?)

    The most important characteristic of Covid-19 is that it’s *极其* contagious. Absent strong public health measures, it tends to spread very rapidly, doubling every 3-5 days. If it had been present in those places as early as claimed, within a month or two, everyone would have been *非常* 意识到这一点。

    Wrong. As we have seen from recent Chinese data, It does *不是* 传播 *VERY RAPIDLY* in its initial stages as you *imagined*. What we know now is that, depending on the strain and the role of super spreaders, there is a latent phase where the virus can spreads *SLOWLY* undetected and unimpeded for several weeks and months…what you completely missed or intentionally ignored is that the virus can spread *asymptomatically*. Even with the heightened vigilance in China, there are still outbreaks of several hundred people which suggests that the virus can spread for a period of time before it reach critical mass and detection.

    It is not as simple as saying a doubling time 3-5 days. This is a biological phenomenon, not string theories in some textbook. There is a inherent randomness and path dependency in its spread. Can’t believe you are still clinging on to all that disinformation and conspiracy theories despite everything we have learned. I guess it is difficult to admit you are just *错误的*.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  387. ivan 说:
    @Sandra Sandavol

    Nature does not shave with Occam’s Razor.

    — dearime

  388. ivan 说:
    @obwandiyag

    Immunity requires that the body be able to prime it’s responses effectively. So far for young people that means rolling in the dirt and exposing themselves to all kinds of conditions. The cumulative total of the dangers out there exceed many millions as any virus or bacteria is apt to turn rouge. Actually it’s all a matter of the body letting down it’s defences down. Against what is arrayed against the body what does it matter if we have suppossed enhanced defences due to a regime of vaccines that by it’s nature is effective only against a small subset of these and that too not forever?

    The lockdowns and accompanying stresses will by themselves seriously compromise the body’s ability to range itself against all comers. This is just plain common sense.

  389. Chinaman 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    向导

    Do a search on dux.ie on this site and my exchanges with him. It is all there.

    We already know a lot about the origin of the virus but you won’t hear it since it contradicts the political narrative.

    The good thing is that we already have the tools ( phylogenetic networks) to get to the bottom of it …and we will..

    I believe in science and I seek truth wherever it leads me. If it did came from some Batman in China or Fort Detrick …so be it…but the evidence suggest a more mundane origin and dux.ie’s South Asia hypothesis seems quite plausible.

    • 谢谢: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @Iris
  390. cranc 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    你说,政客们害怕他们在公众眼中的样子。 以前似乎从未阻止过他们。
    美联储等中央银行在 2019 年秋季开始印钞,就在这一切开始前几周。 金融体系已经破产,自 2008 年以来一直处于借贷状态。这是最后的游戏。
    事件 201。 货币重置讨论了 2019 年 XNUMX 月,因为回购市场开始再次分崩离析。
    中央计划——寡头是主要受益者,是理查德·维尔纳批评中反复提及的主题。 他开发了量化宽松(或创造了这个词)——只是一个版本与当前银行家亿万富翁的财富攫取截然相反的效果。 观看他的电影《日元王子》。 他了解控制系统、UBI、监视、植入的宏伟目标。
    https://professorwerner.org/

    谁是你最喜欢的寡头

    看来你是对亿万富翁阶层更有利的人。

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  391. Tom Rogers 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    Sorry but I think you are wrong. It is true that evidence of a body should be produced at trial, and it is also true that a photograph of the body will be available at trial (where a photograph could be taken); but, it does not follow that it will be admitted into evidence. It all depends on what the Crown decide they must prove in order to secure the murder conviction. Proof of a body can take many forms and a photograph of the body will not always add anything evidentially to what is already known. Think of it this way: should a jury be required to look at autopsy photographs? Would that assist the jury with the matters contested? It will depend, but often not, and no-one would suggest that the jury should look at them just for the sake of form.

    I don’t know the details of the Mair trial, but normally the fact that somebody is dead and was killed in a particular manner is not, per se, in dispute. In English murder trials, it will usually be the case that a Home Office pathologist will give evidence, and will be subject to cross-examination by the defence, and that will be the major evidence. I do not know the details of the Mair trial, but I would expect a pathologist was appointed in this case and was available for cross-examination by the defence. The defence can also appoint their own pathologist, and the defence lawyers, the accused and all the defence experts, would have access to all the material evidence of the Crown – including the photographs.

    The reason I pointed out the error with the Latin phrasing was not to embarrass anybody – I accept that mistakes can be made – but I don’t accept that this is a trivial error for Mr Kollerstrom when he was building an entire argument around it and in view of the allegations he is throwing around. The error lends credence to my evaluation of him.

  392. @Alexandros

    I’m not saying that your fantasy version is impossible under some circumstances but what is the point of bringing it up in a case where there can be no doubt that the MP was dead?

  393. @acementhead

    I can agree with your “rational way” in the last par but that isn’t much help in assessing the decision making processes of people who want to be re-elected, given the lack of general public enthusiasm for the rigorously rational.

  394. @Chinaman

    We are witnessing several isolated outbreaks in different parts of China now due to overseas arrivals ( mainly white people) and imported food.

    Don’t arrivals from overseas into China have to go through a government controlled quarantine and testing before they’re released on the public? Hasn’t PR China eliminated this route yet?

    About the food route there seem to be some disagreements still:

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/10/31/world/science-health-world/concerns-coronavirus-food-imports-real-expert-says/

    • 回复: @Chinaman
  395. @cranc

    “It seems…” No, just trying to find out if you have any factually informed rational basis for your opinions about the way the world works or are just repeating simplistic ideas picked up from films and mad blogs.

    • 回复: @cranc
  396. @Alfred

    I am quite prepared to accept that there are conspiracies and cover ups but one can get into a situation where one tries to explain everything in such terms, even the implausible. Those administering the tests follow protocols and SOPs, and while there may be some carelessness by those applying them, the results in those countries almost free of the Covid-19 I brought up would actually require the testers in quarantine adjusting the cycles so as to generate some false positives while those outside the quarantine adjusting the cycles so as not to have such false positives. I find that to be unlikely.

    This certainly explains how the president of Tanzania got positive results from goat and papaya.

    We do now hear that Covid-19 can be present in food, so?

    China is obviously in on the game to change the US president and destroy the economies of the West.

    China depends largely on western markets so I don’t think it would want to wreck western economies. It has a large internal market but I still think this is unlikely. This is opposite of Ron’s thesis which also I’m not so sure about but more likely than that China started it deliberately.

    FYI, almost no one has allegedly died from Covid in Africa – when South Africa is excluded.

    Who can tell for sure what goes on there? Give it time … they may yet turn to blame Africans for it like they did with AIDS. When homos were dying in large numbers throughout the US they hadn’t even started blaming it on Haitians having sex with pigs let alone on Africans doing it with monkeys.

    I would like to think that that Covid-19 is just a hoax, or the flu re-labelled, but I’m not so sure yet. For the time being I think it is somewhat an exaggerated threat to public health and I question both the conspiracy theorists and the mainstream narrative.

    • 回复: @Alfred
  397. Alfred 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    What is your inference from that?

    Nature is doing its normal job and the infections are dying off in Sweden – a country which did not lockdown. Furthermore, their number of alleged Covid deaths is trivial outside the elderly in homes for the dying.

    There is no need whatsoever for vaccinations. If you are young, they are unnecessary. If you are old, they don’t work.

    The natural way protects people for years – not months.

    • 回复: @acementhead
  398. Schuetze 说:
    @Anonymous

    “So lot of poor jews may not be in on anything their group elite planned for the world and may be sacrificed just like other goyim.”

    Those poor jews benefit massively from their own in-group preference, affirmative jewish action and the racist supremacism of their rabbi’s and elites.

    But you are right, the jew hoi-polloi are readily sacrificed for the good of their elites, and afterwards they are used as strawmen for charges of “anti-semitism”.

    No holocaust “denier” claims that no jews died in the labor camps. The Red Cross states that 250k died. These 250k were sacrificed by the jew elites just like the dozens of victims of Russian “Pogroms” in the late 1800’s. Their deaths are the direct result of wars created by jews using their masonic dialectic between capitalist jews and communist jews.

    So it certainly possible that the “poor” jews will be deliberately infected with whatever junk they are putting in the vaccines. Later we can be certain that the Rabbi’s will blame it on the goyim and call it another holocaust.

  399. @Alfred

    There seems to be a mental problem beyond the limitations of intellect exhibited by most of the people who use “lie” and its cognates on UR threads.  A lie requires an intention to deceive. What possible motive could I have to lie – at least on this thread – about anything I know about Australia’s experience of the pandemic?  You may have some odd understanding of Australia’s 8 different regional lock down regimes but I think it reasonable to include in that description measures like requiring 14 days quarantine for incoming travellers, social distancing, wearing of masks and, above all testing and tracing as soon as new cases are discovered so that potential spreaders can be isolated.  It clearly works.  For example, it was discovered that some ill disciplined security guards had picked up the virus from incoming travellers supposedly quarantined.  Tracing to usually recent immigrant non English speaking large families living and mixing closely together led to the closing down of local  “hotspots”. It worked.  In Victoria we went from dozens of new cases each week (or even day) back to no  new cases for weeks.

    • 回复: @Alfred
  400. @Sirius

    You prompt me to think how easy it would be for you to be one who does indeed know 20 or more  people who have had Covid 19.  You could be a GP or pharmacist just for an easy start to guessing.  Maybe a tax accountant mightn’t know that his client was  ailing…. but, I have no reason to disbelieve you though I think my local pharmacist in Melbourne would not necessarily have known 20 because we have had so few cases.

    • 回复: @Sirius
  401. @4Truth

    What if he is the local pharmacist? How about 40 in some parts of America?

  402. @Stealth

    你假设它之后会发生一些事情。 每一个迹象都表明它以某种形式永远与我们同在。 这当然是盖茨和他的傀儡的框架,他们当然有能力实现它。 它是技术官僚的“in hoc signo vinces”。 而且,就像在骗局之前一样,我们所希望的只是彻底崩溃以克服它——然后这是一个更大的问题。

  403. @SS-The Independent

    世卫组织(由冒名顶替者领导——Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus 博士,他没有接受过任何医学培训——就像他的赞助人比尔·盖茨一样,他是马克思列宁主义埃塞俄比亚政党的成员)由比尔和梅琳达·盖茨资助Foundation' 并与 BIG Pharma 有旋转门!

    人们需要开始了解,世卫组织、约翰霍普金斯大学和所有此类组织,以及从医疗数据处理到采矿和废物管理的数十家初创企业和老牌公司,本质上都是盖茨基金会的分支机构,而不是独立的实体。

    比尔·盖茨 is 大制药。 他开始了这一切,他的金钱和影响力让它继续下去。 严峻的事实是,盖茨这个穿着柔和毛衣的手势“书呆子”,已经垄断了生活本身的市场。

    金钱轨迹是完全光明正大的。 在他们的网站上都可以。

    • 同意: Alfred
  404. @Ron Unz

    I apologise if you have already dealt with what I am now going to mention as consistent more than your thesis with my explanation of the military games connection.

    With a view to calculating where exponential growth might have taken cases, possible infections and deaths I merely Googled “what were the dates of the military games in Wuhan” and, apart from learning that they were 18th to 27th October, I was proffered many Covid related links.

    It is in fact unlikely that the medical intelligence arm, though under resourced, didn’t hear many reports of unexplained illness in or after Wuhan. Presumably the competitors arrived earlier than 18th October and had time to visit markets so Covid 19 could easily have manifested itself before they went home. I haven’t projected a calculation of infections of mostly young healthy people spread around 100s of facilities in the US to which they returned but no deaths is quite plausible so no investigation is also likely (and the fact**). My guess would be that there could well have been a mix of a very few Covid 19 cases with the usual result of Europeans eating unfamiliar inadequately washed.food in Asia (Delhi Belly) . Next question. What about the other foreign teams? I think the links mention France.

    Here are some possibly relevant links

    Wuhan Military Games: COVID-19 Conspiracy Theory | Military Benefits

    https://militarybenefits.info/military-world-games/

    To open this now I ad to go back to my Google search and start from there.. It is if interest that it mentions the Chinese government closing sea food markets.

    *** *** **
    中国武汉医院流量和搜索引擎数据分析表明2019年秋季早期疾病活动

    https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767

    You may recall that I hypothesised such indirect ways (though not the car parking) of inferring what was happening in Wuhan.

    *** ***
    Coronavirus may have been spreading since Wuhan Military Games last October
    Suspected cases among international athletes months before China’s first report to WHO

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3932712

    *** ***

    https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1094347/world-military-games-illness-covid-19

    *** ***
    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/03/12/chinese-official-says-us-army-may-have-brought-epidemic-wuhan.html

    *** ***

    https://en.radiofarda.com/a/eleven-athletes-in-iran-have-died-of-coronavirus-infection/30502659.html

    *** ***

    ** https://prospect.org/coronavirus/did-the-military-world-games-spread-covid-19/

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  405. @Alexandros

    I think the point is that when you don’t have proof of a body and you don’t even have proof of a defendant, then the case could easily be completely made up. Not like the media establishment hasn’t told lies before.

    Spot on. Our masters learned all about show trials from the Soviets. It’s basically just a false-flag operation on a personal scale. We never have any problem believing in such deep-state operations when it’s the bad guys supposed to be in charge, as in the Reichstag fire. It’s a wee bit harder when someone suggests that the 1605 Gunpowder plot to blow up the British parliament was a similar operation.

    Many suggest that the trial of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the Boston Bombing went the same way. No photos of the man in the defendant’s box were permitted but professionally-drawn courtroom sketches suggest it was not Dzhokhar. His lawyer broke her ethics code by actually asserting his guilt and avoiding every reasonable line of defense.

    Kollerstrom blew the whistle on the London Bombing of 7/7/05 as well.

  406. cranc 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    疯狂的博客

    敬而远之。
    我已经链接到一个博客(并通过它链接了大量政府统计数据)、一位在中央银行系统工作的教授、一系列 30 篇学术论文,以及一个拥有不少读者的独立新闻网站。
    作为回应,你已经链接到……什么都没有。

  407. Alfred 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    We do now hear that Covid-19 can be present in food, so?

    You choose to believe the stories they tell you. I wish you good luck with that. Personally, I would prefer to live where others are not constantly trying to “protect” me from a virus that is no different from what we used to call influenza.

    Sometimes I wish people who believe this nonsense would be able to live apart from others who wish to enjoy their lives to the full. I guess that in due course people like me will be moving to more sensible jurisdictions. I believe it is already happening in the USA – with people moving away from the blue states. People who want to tell others how to live and what to think are invariably Socialists.

    Blue state exodus could flip the political map upside down, turning red states purple

  408. @Tom Rogers

    The reason I pointed out the error with the Latin phrasing was not to embarrass anybody

    The alleged error you pointed out was the use of the term 人身保护令 而不是 语料库. I prematurely conceded your point. Both violations occurred. The 人身保护令 violation was in not proving that Thomas Mair was the man sitting in the dock or identifying the man in the dock as the one who committed the murder:

    The legal principle of 人身保护令, which literally means “you may have the body” was apparently abandoned in the trial of Thomas Mair. It is the principle that says anyone detained by the state must be presented to a court to determine if that detention is lawful

    https://in-this-together.com/thomas-mair/

    No member of Thomas Mair’s family were allowed to attend the trial. Why not? The man in the dock did not swear an oath that he was Thomas Mair. None of the witnesses called by the prosecution knew Thomas Mair and none of them saw Thomas Mair being arrested. Apart from one solitary, barely audible ‘yes,’ the man in the dock did not speak for the entire duration of the trial.
    Not one of the witnesses was asked by either the prosecution or the defence to identify the man in the dock as Thomas Mair. Is this because none of them could have done so? Moreover, not a single witness was asked to identify the man in the dock as the killer.

    There is every indication from courtroom sketches that the man in the dock was not the defendant Thomas Mair:

    • 回复: @canspeccy
    , @Tom Rogers
  409. Alfred 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    In Victoria we went from dozens of new cases each week (or even day) back to no new cases for weeks.

    A case is a meaningless concept when the person is healthy. Why do you keep on repeating something that the inventor of the PCR test said it should not be used for?

    I have two teenage daughters in Melbourne. This process you are so fond of has damaged their education and their psyche. Thank you very much.

    Furthermore, countless jobs, small businesses and families have been destroyed. For what? Of course the big box stores stayed open. Why?

    Australia is almost isolated at present. Is that the sort of society you like to live in? I most certainly do not. I am very happy to be far away from Australia at this time.

    When the people eventually wake up and realise what a sham they have been subjected to, there will be a day of reckoning. These things move in cycles. All these corrupt politicians who instituted these draconian measures will be exposed for what they are. It is obvious that it was all because of the fragility of the financial system and the necessary curtailment of oil consumption. Nothing to do with public health.

    One thing is certain, no one is going to be making any investments in Victoria anytime soon. First, they destroyed the motor car industry, next was mining and exporting brown coal, next was the coal fired power stations. Soon enough, Victoria will be 3rd world.

    Lastly, if the measures you commend are so successful, why does Victoria continue to impose the following restrictions?

    Updated Summer restrictions

    [更多]

    As of 11:59pm on 3 February 2021 new statewide restrictions are in effect:

    The limit on the number of people gathering in a household is reduced from 30 to 15, meaning the household members plus 15 visitors (excluding children under 12 months of age).  
    Masks are mandatory in public indoor spaces. If you have visitors in your home, it is strongly recommended that masks are worn during the visit. Masks must be worn in indoor public spaces apart from when eating or drinking.  If you are planning to leave your home – take a mask.
    The 75 per cent ‘return to work’ cap in both public and private sectors scheduled for Monday 8 February are paused and the current cap of 50% will remain in place.

    In addition to indoor public spaces, face masks continue to be mandatory in the following locations:

    on public transport
    when riding in a ride share or taxi
    on domestic flights to and from Victoria
    在机场
    在医院里
    when working in or visiting hospitals and care facilities.

    这意味着:

    You must carry a face mask with you at all times when you leave home.
    Fitted face masks must be worn in public indoor spaces unless you have a lawful reason not to. Face masks continue to be mandatory on public transport and when in taxis or ride share vehicles.
    Wearing a face mask is strongly recommended when you can’t keep 1.5 metres distance from other people.
    You can have up to 15 visitors to your home per day. There is no limit on the number of households those people come from. Front and backyards are considered part of the home.
    Up to 100 people can meet outdoors in a public place. There is no limit on the number of households those people come from.
    保持记录中

    continues to be an important tool for helping Victoria to stay safe and stay open. Businesses that are required to record the details of visitors should use electronic record keeping or QR codes. The Victorian Government has a free QR code service
    .
    Restaurants, cafes, bars and pubs can open for seated and unseated service. They must use electronic record keeping and apply the two square metre rule
    to ensure that customers have enough room to keep 1.5 metres between themselves and others. There are no other limits on the number of customers. Venues can have up to 25 people before the two square metre rule needs to be applied.
    Weddings, funerals and religious gatherings can occur with no limits on the number of guests or attendees. To ensure people can keep 1.5 metres distance the venue must apply the two square metre rule
    . If a service is conducted in a private home, the private gathering limit applies (15 visitors). 
    Dance floors can reopen in bars and pubs as well as at weddings. The four-square metre rule must be applied to limit the number of people on the dance floor and there can only be up to 50 people on the dancefloor at one time, if space allows.
    There are also changes to the number of people allowed at community facilities such as libraries, sporting facilities (such as gyms), and entertainment facilities (such as cinemas).

    Victoria’s COVIDSafe Summer

  410. @Tom Rogers

    But they did have proof of a body.

    Well they had a death certificate. Totally unsigned, mind you. Not by the “informant”. Not by the registrar.

    They did have a sort of memorial the day after, where the suddenly bereaved sister was all giggling and smiling.

    No photographs of the body or wounds. Will CGI images do you?

    The defendant Thomas Mair was clearly “into” white supremacy, and … well, gardening. As you can see he had but very recently prepared for his arrest by purchasing a spanking new bookcase, a trove of Nazi books, also brand new, a shiny new statue, and had put them all together, ever-so-neatly, without a speck of dust, just waiting for the police to find him out. Probably trying to emulate Anders Breivik.
    https://in-this-together.com/thomas-mair/

  411. Ron Unz 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I apologise if you have already dealt with what I am now going to mention as consistent more than your thesis with my explanation of the military games connection…It is in fact unlikely that the medical intelligence arm, though under resourced, didn’t hear many reports of unexplained illness in or after Wuhan…Analysis of hospital traffic and search engine data in Wuhan China indicates early disease activity in the Fall of 2019

    No, that sort of hypothesis makes absolutely no sense at all.

    According to the standard narrative, fully supported by the massive investigative resources of the WSJ, NYT, AP, and generally endorsed by all mainstream analysts, Patient Zero in China was infected in late Oct./early Nov. 2019. This is fully consistent with the end of Wuhan Military Games, though certainly doesn’t require that theory be correct.

    Now if Patient Zero became infected in late Oct./early Nov., there would probably only have been a few dozen infected individuals in Wuhan, many of them asymptomatic, by the “second week of November.” Wuhan is a city of 11 million, and a couple of dozen extra people suffering flu symptoms at the height of Flu Season would be *完全* invisible to any observers. That’s obviously the reason that no one in the local or national Chinese governments noticed anything at the time.

    Yet according to multiple intelligence sources, by “the second week of November” our DIA was already preparing a secret report describing the “cataclysmic” disease outbreak then occurring in Wuhan. Your hypothesis is less plausible than the existence of precognitive technology.

    The various sources you cite are pretty likely just intelligence “chaff” put out there to persuade rather gullible individuals such as yourself that 2+2 = 37. Indeed, putting out such totally ridiculous explanatory “theories” may tend to underscore the gigantic “Oops!” that the leadership of our intelligence agencies experienced after they’d accidentally revealed the existence of the secret November DIA report.

  412. ImaBotKnot 说:

    The Globalists accomplish multiple goals with their Hegelian Dialectics and False Flags. SO THINK ABOUT THIS Is the Great Reset, resetting Global Eco-monics ( I mean Economics ) AND THE HUMAN GENOME via INJECTION.

  413. @Wizard of Oz

    Try and remember the time when you cared a damn about what anybody thought of you or your opinions or preferences.

    If by “anybody” you are referring to my employers, there never was such a time that I recall. But then I generally fired the management by quitting the job, before there was any indication that they intended to fire me — that is until I got around to running my own show, which eliminated the need for consideration of “anybody’s” opinion.

    But you don’t deal with the question of why, if the politicians were so “scared to be blamed for high mortality, even if only amongst the old and vulnerable,” did they take steps that anyone could see was risked killing many of the old and vulnerable?

    Quite clearly in many jurisdictions the safety of the most vulnerable, namely the elderly, was deliberately sacrificed to protect younger people, with the result that overall mortality was greatly increased. If in Canada public policy had been to keep Covid out of care homes, overall mortality might have been cut by up to three quarters.

    • 同意: Alfred
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  414. Chinaman 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    It was 2 weeks and it turns out that’s not enough and it was spreading…So it is 3 weeks now…

    What is insidious about the virus is that it can spread asymptomatically. All this talk about it being very infectious and having a fast doubling time is skewed by the fact that it might have been spreading slowly but asytomatically before it is spreading through the community. This is why it is so hard to pinpoint patient zero. The pandemic started slowly and then accelerate. By the time you found your first case, it might have been spreading for awhile which gives the *illusion* that it is very infectious… As Ron seems to believed. The doubling time just reflect how fast you are testing…

    What is nteresting is that the virus can be controlled quite easily if you lockdown on it early and nip it in the bud as China is doing now. Impossible task in the land of the free and brave… Or land of sacrificing the weak.

    We know that it is at least in America and Italy around sept and Oct 2019 before Wuhan. We also know the first known sample of COVID is in Barcelona Mar 2019 and that the Spanish strain there is actually… Closest to the bat virus!

    • 谢谢: Commentator Mike
  415. @Peripatetic Itch

    What happened to Tommy Mair? If he was represented in court by a body double, has he not expressed some objection to the proceedings? Is he inarticulate or incommunicado? Why does the video not address these obvious questions?

    It would have been easy enough to achieve a false conviction if the fellow had been taken out and hanged immediately after the trial. But since that didn’t happen, why has the convict or his family never been heard from, since what is claimed to be a totally fraudulent trial?

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  416. Luigi 说: • 您的网站

    what would be the reason why corporate capitalism fake an pandemic?
    is it power? prestige? profit?
    我不认为如此。

    Let’s face it. This was a pandemic that originated in China, the worst place for such an occurrence to take place since they kept it quiet out of their own misguided political pride and totalitarian goals.

    Chinese leaders ought to be brought in front of the International Courts of Justice in the Hague and prosecuted. Furthermore, there ought to be Civil Cases brought in the US courts for damages to the victims. Don’t worry, the Chinese have got the cash to pay for the medical expenses, plus pain-and-suffering compensation.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSRrSpDzFrexMjWCE0Nk-Q

    • 同意: ivan
    • 回复: @ivan
  417. geokat62 说:
    @Ron Unz

    And without strong public health measures, including some combination of masking/distancing/lockdowns, the extremely-contagious disease would have overwhelmed the entire country, and we’d probably have at least a couple of million deaths or more.

    I have to hand it to you, Ron. You’re one of the few individuals left who are still willing to back the output results from Neil Ferguson’s discredited Imperial College model, released in the Spring of last year.

    At this stage of the game, it takes a brave man to do so.

  418. ImaBotKnot 说:

    https://techcrunch.com/2020/09/22/microsoft-launches-azure-orbital-to-connect-satellites-to-its-cloud/ he company is specifically positioning the services as a solution for working with geospatial data and it is already partnering with Amergint, Kratos, KSAT, KubOS, Viasat, US Electrodynamics and Viasat to bring the service to market. viasat does alot of military applications Sorry off on a tangent. I will stop now.

  419. Anon[223]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Fair point on December as being a possible date for the initial COVID, that would account for the growth in numbers. A month is certainly enough of a time period to go to such an horrific total death rate.

    However, as the NYT points out in this article, it is very unlikely that we had a large scale breakout in December, since the December indicators are all located in California, which did not see many deaths manifest until late March. The researchers the NYT contacted said while there was a mild breakout in the Bay Area, it likely petered out on their own, since CA’s deaths didn’t pick up until late March. Remember, CA had only 4 deaths by Mid March, which would have been impossible if there was spread starting in December.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/us/coronavirus-first-case-snohomish-antibodies.html
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/california/

    Since COVID takes 3-4 weeks to kill, almost everyone who dies over a month long period had the virus on the onset of that period. China went from 17 to 2000, which is a lower “jump” in fatalities compared to other countries, which leads me to personally believe that they caught the disease at a very early stage, maybe one to one and a half months. For instance, France went from 30 to 15,000 deaths in a single month, implying that those individuals were infected on the onset of the virus. Even though China’s lockdowns were very effective, it would not have saved any patient in the first month since they would have already been infected.

    But, I think the real “weakness” of your theory is in the US intelligence report, since your argument is that the US was the one who unleashed the disease. Your whole theory rests on 30 NATO countries knowing about the virus, not doing anything to protect their citizens in China, nor asking the Chinese government about the epidemic, thus letting the Chinese know of their new infestation. Also, you have the US distributing a report stating that there is an epidemic in China in November, but not a single NATO country closing their borders until February/March or taking health precautions, which is before the epidemic became impactful in daily life, but just after China admits the disease exists? None of this makes any sense, and requires a suspension of disbelief.

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    Also, your theory has the US intelligence letting NATO countries know of an epidemic, but not the US congress or our military leaders, who while incompetent would probably take action if they had a report indicating such a disease in China. At the very least, they would have let the public know.

    Since none of the countries did anything on COVID until February, then why did the US government release their report in November? What was the point of releasing information that would tie you to a bioweapon attack if the people you are warning don’t do anything?

    I’ve repeated this simple statement before, so I apologize if this becomes redundant, but do you honestly believe that 30 NATO countries + Israel had knowledge of a “cataclysmic” infection in Wuhan, but never asked Chinese authorities about the progress or took action to help their own citizens in China or to take basic health precautions for their own citizens at home such as stopping flights from Wuhan? If just one contacts China, then the Chinese become aware of what is going on, which would give the ballgame of the Americans away. The Chinese did not take action till January 23rd, which strongly implies that no NATO country contacted them, which seems ridiculous, given that diplomats are always talking about some issue or another to their counterparts.

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  420. @canspeccy

    Is he inarticulate or incommunicado?

    I think you’ve got it there. Officially Thomas Mair is understood to be locked up in County Durham, where he has a single cell in the high-security jail.

    It’s not that difficult when you’ve got the media onside and can hand out D-Notices at will. D-notices prohibit any mention of a subject or person in the media, on pain of serious penalties. They first came to our attention during the Skripal business, when D-notices slapped on the media, preventing any mention of Skripal’s connection to Pablo Miller. Just as some were speculating that Sergei Skripal had something to do with the Christopher Steele Trump/Russia pee-dossier.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/03/steele_and_skripal_a_unified_theory.html

    The Brits are of course past masters at keeping people incommunicado. The Skripals are a prime example. No one has seen hide nor hair of them for almost three years.

    • 谢谢: CanSpeccy
  421. @Anon

    do you honestly believe that 30 NATO countries + Israel had knowledge of a “cataclysmic” infection

    Am I the only person who finds it suspicious that Israel closed down their embassies all over the world on Oct. 30, 2019? On a very questionable pretext? A labor strike?

  422. R2b 说:

    It comes from Katai. RU is right about that. It spiked, and could just do that. Very convinient. The western moles, big dudes though, managed to close down society. Xi declares in Davos the great reset.
    Conclusion: it is as a pretty normal flu, with a spike. So that you can act. And then pour out what you wanna pour out.
    So in spite of nothing peculiar, something very peculiar happened. People were exposed as pure dumb-fucks, although educated. That is what education was/is.
    The Enlightenment has failed. And people are as they always has been; longing for a supra-natural explanation.
    Here’s covid1984 for you!
    Go back and pray, as long as there is a day!

  423. Iris 说:
    @Chinaman

    The good thing is that we already have the tools ( phylogenetic networks) to get to the bottom of it …and we will..

    It is highly unlikely that phylogenetic networks techniques can resolve the question of the origin of a virus that has been mutating for over a year now.
    For such a method to work on a fast-mutating virus, time is of the essence. It would have been necessary to sequence, from the beginning, all sampled viruses and pinpoint their location, to try and find the combined geographical and genetic paths by which they evolved.

    The most exhaustive and early job done on the topic was of course that of Pr Peter Forster, the Cambridge geneticist, completed in May 2020, and for which he used as starting point a bat virus close only by 97% to SARS-CoV2, as he didn’t, and we still don’t, know where the original virus was.

    https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/covid-19-genetic-network-analysis-provides-snapshot-of-pandemic-origins

    Any virus strain that was not sequenced at that time, if it survived, would have by now also mutated following its own separate dynamics, beyond the point where it could be linked to an “original” virus.

    Your rant against Ron Unz with regard to the speed of spread of the pandemic is incomprehensible from somebody posing as understanding phylogenetic networks technique.
    The Nr1 and most important result Pr Forster obtained from his study was precisely the time-origin of the virus in Asia, with his linear regression returning a time window between 13 Sept and 7 Dec 2019, so this scientific method you claim actually well corroborates Mr Unz’s hypothesis.

    https://www.fluxus-technology.com/cov2020.htm

    Finally, I am very confused by the points you are trying to make, if any.
    If it’s about the genetic origin of the virus, natural or engineered, the jury is still out on that one.

    But it is extremely surprising that a virus’ natural ancestor that has been hunted by the entire planet for over a year can still not be found. Furthermore, the US’ continued attempts to link the SARS-CoV2 virus to the Wuhan virology lab are sounding like an awkward attempt at deflection, considering that the initial strain (Strain A) had been found by the phylogenetic study to be prevalent in the US, Australia, and the Southern Chinese coast, but precisely not in Wuhan.

    One of those deflection attempts has been produced, again, very recently, by an “individual”, but the 183 pages-long report clearly indicate a semi-official collective effort:

    A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived

    The Chinese of course do not respond to such provocations and diplomatically and wisely support the natural origin thesis, because they well know that the US is ruled by people who are clinically insane.

    What common sense would conclude, based on the factual information we have, is that Mr Unz’s thesis is correct, that an engineered virus was introduced in Wuhan between Sept and Dec 2019.

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @Chinaman
    , @Brás Cubas
  424. Iris 说:
    @Iris

    A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived

    https://zenodo.org/record/4477081#.YBsOC5dxc2z

  425. @Magic Dirt

    “We are all far beyond the point where a non-expert could reasonably conclude anything.”

    Wrong. This non-expert long ago concluded that “expertise”, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder and no one can legitimately claim to be an expert, nor know who is an expert. Find me a recognized expert claiming “X” and I will find you another recognized expert claiming “non-X”. Both will have large reputations. The one blessed by government will be accusing the other of spreading “misinformation”.

    The belief in experts is nothing more than a faith, and faith is nothing more than the art of believing what you are told to believe.

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  426. How can any rational human being deny the recorded statistics presented by WHO, CDC, UNITED NATIONS, NIH, and http://www.worldometers.info, which is the most accurate of them and is a completely independent NGO. All convey that this is a legitimate pandemic, which has been rapidly spreading since its initial disclosure to the public, by the CCP, as early as September 2019. In fact, information, from a particularly accurate and truthful source revealed that in the first several months of the spread of Covid-19, cases were very under-reported because of potential disastrous political and economic ramifications. Additionally, before this virus was revealed, world leaders of major countries conspired to suppress it. Eventually as the virus reached such noticeable epidemic proportions, they were forced to reveal it. Are all the aforementioned organizations involved in a conspiracy,using this current pandemic, to take over the world and form a “one world government?” All naysayers who see a globalist plot being engineered by the elite are quite delusional. Can statistics be manipulated? Yes I think so and there has been evidence to indicate it. In my opinion, the latest Presidential Election, is a good example, however, it is national, but not global.

  427. Chinaman 说:
    @Iris

    For such a method to work on a fast-mutating virus, time is of the essence.

    One SNP every 13 days, according to dux.ie ….the strain that have been evolving independently and furtherest away from anything we know of was found on a Filipino sailor who got sick on his way to NEw Zealand. There may be other older strains that and we keep finding strains that push the date earlier for the most common ancestor.

    The most exhaustive and early job done on the topic was of course that of Pr Peter

    Definitely not the most exhaustive but the earliest. He used 100 odd sample. Our man, dux.ie used thousands to create his model. Due to sample biases, Dr forester’s conclusion is very much in question. The closest strain ( with least mutations) we have to the RatG13 (96% similar to COVID) is the B strains…in Barcelona, Spain…

    Please read up on dux.ie’s post and come back to discuss. You have a large knowledge gap to fill after Forester. He went much further than Forester ever did. He even disapproved a Wuhan genesis with the latest data…he is probably the first one to do it. phylogenetic network actually provide insights.

    Please also read up on my exchanges with Ron on the CDC & Red Cross antibodies paper, doubling time of the virus and his Reductio ad absurdum. I try not to waste my time on that anymore.

    I am reserving my judgment on the origin of the virus at this point. There are too many false leads at this point and one piece of evidence can change the whole picture. You made a leap of logic from the shortcoming of phylogenetic networks to evil Deep State bioattack…from science to a demon haunted world. Let’s say phylogenetic networks don’t tell us anything, it does not make a bioattack hypothesis any more plausible. I got off that wacky Unz bandwagon long time ago. You should too before that whole theory blows up with you looking like an idiot. I have been telling Ron to do the same thing. The evidence is mounting.

  428. @Iris

    the initial strain (Strain A) had been found by the phylogenetic study to be prevalent in the US, Australia, and the Southern Chinese coast, but precisely not in Wuhan.

    Mr Unz’s thesis is correct, that an engineered virus was introduced in Wuhan between Sept and Dec 2019

    Maybe I am missing something here, but if the virus was introduced in Wuhan, what is this “initial strain” and why was it prevalent in other places but not in Wuhan?

    • 回复: @acementhead
    , @Iris
  429. @Alfred

    Furthermore, their number of alleged Covid deaths is trivial outside the elderly in homes for the dying.

    I think that that is the case in lots of countries.

    There is no need whatsoever for vaccinations. If you are young, they are unnecessary. If you are old, they don’t work.

    Yes. Yes Yes. It is utterly mad to be giving “vacination”(the mRNA thing isn’t even a vaccine) to CHILDREN. The idiots in charge are utterly mad. New Zealand has the dumbest government that it’s ever had, by miles. And led by a babbling low IQ loon as Prime Minister.

    • 同意: Alfred
    • 回复: @CanSpeccy
  430. Biff 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Now it’s instead wrecked the American economy.

    Looking through the prism of the Shock doctrine(Global corporations poised to take advantage of natural and/or man made disasters) some nefarious people may consider this a good thing.

  431. @acementhead

    It is utterly mad to be giving “vaccination”(the mRNA thing isn’t even a vaccine) to CHILDREN.

    Exactly. The mRNA vaccines don’t even provide any lasting protection.

    They may, if they work, induce the production of some anti-Covid antibodies, but those will dissipate in months, unlike viral infection which generates T-Cell immunity that can last, if experience with other SARS viruses is a guide, for at least 17 years.

    The frenzied determination to prevent viral spread leading to herd immunity looks like a monstrous scam to subject the population to a life of six-monthly jabs with a useles pseudo-vaccine, that could, as Iris has noted, be used for quite nefarious purposes: for example, to insert novel genetic elements into the germ line.

    These antibody inducing injections could also induce antibody-dependent enhancement of viral attack, making Covid19 vastly more lethal than it is now.

  432. @Brás Cubas

    … if the virus was introduced in Wuhan, what is this “initial strain” and why was it prevalent in other places but not in Wuhan?

    One possibility is that “it”(is there, or was there ever an “it”) was released in several different places, either all at the same time or sequentially at different times in different places. Just because the CIA, or ‘rogue elements’ of the CIA are committing crimes in Venezuela, for example, doesn’t foreclose the possibility that others are committing crimes in Ukraine. The CIA gets lots of money and they don’t tell Joe Blogs how they spend any of it.

  433. Iris 说:
    @Brás Cubas

    Hello Bras Cubas;

    Pr Forster has utilised an established method (phylogenetic networks) which was first developed and successfully used for other fields of research, such as archaeogenetics. (His work on SARS-CoV2 was reviewed by Colin Renfrew, a distinguished British archaeologist and paleolinguist).

    Pr Forster’s analysis was based on the very first available data about the virus genome sequencing, from December 2019 to March 2020, before the mutations would blur its geographic travel path from its original appearance.

    Taking the bat virus as arbitrary starting point, Forster created a Covid-19 family tree by iterations, based on the increasing number of mutations and differentiations from the initial starting points. This is how the “family tree” looks like:

    Based on his competence as geneticist, Forster identified three different principal strains, or clusters presenting genetic similarity, which he named A, B and C. Strain A is the closet from the bat’s, B further apart and C the furthest. In other terms, on time scale basis, A, B and C would have appeared in that order, although it a little more complicated in reality because of recombinations.

    查找 which was the oldest strain would of course in theory indicate the geographical birthplace of the virus.
    What Forster found out is that strain A, the closest from the bat’s, was quite largely detected in patients in the US and Australia, as well as in coastal China, over a thousand km from Wuhan .
    But surprisingly, most samples gathered in Wuhan belonged to variant B, which shows that Wuhan was only the place where the pandemic was detected, not the place were it was born.

    Forster used 1001 genomes, all available for peer review on the international GISAID database.
    You can find all the details of geographical provenance and strain classification of the data he used by clicking on: “Download classification of 1001 SARS-CoV-2 virus genome IDs from GISAID” and read it in the Excel file:
    https://www.fluxus-technology.com/cov2020.htm

    • 谢谢: Alfred
    • 回复: @Brás Cubas
    , @Chinaman
  434. ivan 说:
    @Luigi

    I followed the developments quite closely. During the eve of Chinese New Year last year around the middle or end of January, they imposed WWII style blockades in Hubei Province, where Wuhan is located. Obviously, they suspected a leak from the L4 lab, for otherwise why resort to such draconian measures?

    They had earlier sought to run it out, dissipate it as it were as in the normal outbreaks, but when it did not their first concern was not for the health of anyone, but the legitimacy of rule of the CCP. The Chicoms then made a big song and dance. blew a lot smoke, relied on a population that harmoniously denied reality of which they could be persuaded by methods age old in China.

    Then in a few weeks they realised that the death rate was not so bad after all and started to relax. The Chinese people as a whole could be expected to have greater immunity to corona type virii, since they had been repeatedly exposed to SARS, bird flu and the lot. It follows that their population had greater immunity than much of the rest of the world. The rest of the world, especially the old geezers in Northern Italy were swamped with Chinese people who brought the virus to a population unprepared for it. This was not a deliberate action, merely the result of Chinese workers returning to their jobs in the high fashion industry of which the biggest consumers are back in the People’s Republic of China.

    Add to that the sheer irresponsibilty of the African clown Tedros, parading his ignorance in service of the Chicoms, while another bunch of Chinese soothsayers let it be known that there was a general death rate of 3%, without any qualification that it was of the elderly or any particular age cohort. These were sufficient for the Chicken Littles in the West, the notorious Dr Ferguson and the Dr Magoo of the US, Dr Anthony Fauci to claim as that the sky was falling we all need to just batten down and turn on Porn Hub.

    If it were upto me I would have drawn and quartered the Chicom leadership starting with Winnie the Pooh.

    • 回复: @Chinaman
    , @acementhead
  435. @Tom Rogers

    Indeed, a man with N.K.-s scholarly pretentions who doesn’t know what “habeas corpus” signifies is very sus.

  436. @Iris

    Your assertion that “Mr. Unz’s thesis is correct, that an engineered virus was introduced in Wuhan” is contradicted by these findings, as I understand them. As you stress in your comment (in bold, no less):

    Wuhan was only the place where the pandemic was detected, not the place were it was born

    So, if the virus was really introduced, the place where it was introduced is *不是* Wuhan, according to Forster’s explanation; that would mean that Ron Unz is not correct in this regard.

    • 回复: @Iris
  437. JM 说:
    @Fox

    Yes, a case of the disappearing hearses.

    Many years’ ago my father recalled his experience as a small boy in Australia of the effects of the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1918 on…there were hearses followed by lines of hansom cabs carrying mourners everywhere one looked.

    No need to use the rows of coffins from the Costa Concordia disaster off Tuscany as the symbol the claimed contemporary ‘pandemic’.

  438. JackR 说:

    They are now blaming the negative health effects of pro-longed mask use and the negative effects of isolation and the negative health effects of the vaccines on their mystery virus covid-19. How convenient for them that every symptom is caused by their mystery virus.

  439. @canspeccy

    I think you are ignoring that policy makers were flailing around with little precedent or science to help them do better than trial and error. In those circumstances it would not be surprising if, initially, the dangers to those in aged care homes were put to one side as if aged care homes would “surely be managed to keep their old and vulnerable inmates safe”. Oops!

  440. Iris 说:
    @Brás Cubas

    Not sure where you see a contradiction; I am not a native speaker so maybe my English is not precise enough?

    The thesis that a SARS-CoV virus strain, A or B, would have forcibly been introduced in Wuhan does not in any way preclude that initial releases of the father Strain A, deliberate or accidental, would have also occurred before the Wuhan outbreak.

    If you follow the thinking of those who believe it was an engineered virus, you’ll see that many think the virus was first released in the US to verify its relative innocuity/low death rate (that also explains why the ancestor Strain A was so prevalent in Australia, who by the admission of its own PM imported all its initial Covid cases from the US).

    Similarly, those who officially purport to believe it was a natural virus have been calling from the beginning of the pandemic for the US to release its epidemiological records, that would prove Covid started in the US much earlier than acknowledged. There is no contradiction.

    美国应邀请世卫组织对 COVID-19 进行全球研究

    https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-03/The-U-S-should-invite-the-WHO-to-conduct-a-global-study-into-COVID-19-XAgUO6krFC/index.html

    • 回复: @Brás Cubas
  441. Chinaman 说:
    @ivan

    The rest of the world, especially the old geezers in Northern Italy were swamped with Chinese people who brought the virus to a population unprepared for it.

    Fuck you, you lying piece of shit.

    Can’t believe anyone would still spew these disinformation despite all that facts and genetic evidence we have?

    The earliest case of COVID was in Italy was in September. All before Wuhan. The strain did not come from China. We know it have been circulating in Europe since early 2019.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/coronavirus-italy-covid-19-pandemic-europe-date-antibodies-study/

    You are the 2 digit IQ morons that gives racist a bad rap. If you are going to be racist, at least try to sound smart and erudite so us Chinese actually believe white people are “superior”.

    You sound like a complete idiot. Shut the fuck up and let the adults do the talking, ok?

    • 同意: acementhead
    • 回复: @ivan
  442. @Iris

    The thesis that a SARS-CoV virus strain, A or B, would have forcibly been introduced in Wuhan does not in any way preclude that initial releases of the father Strain A, deliberate or accidental, would have also occurred before the Wuhan outbreak.

    What I am saying is that it contradicts *Ron Unz’s thesis* that Wuhan was the place they chose to release the virus. Here’s a direct quote:

    (1)我们大型国家安全机构中可能与“深州新保守派”有关联的流氓分子决定使用生物战对中国庞大的经济造成严重损害。 该计划是用Covid-19感染武汉的主要交通枢纽,以便在每年的农历新年旅行期间将这种疾病无形地传播到整个国家,并且他们利用武汉国际军事运动的掩护溜了几下。特工进入市区释放病毒。 我的猜测是,该图只涉及相对较少的个体。

    https://www.unz.com/runz/31000-words-missing-from-the-atlantic-and-the-new-york-times-sunday-magazine/

    We would have to adapt his thesis a little bit, wouldn’t we? The release (or leak) would have happened at several places in China, and also Australia and the United States.

    • 回复: @Iris
  443. Chinaman 说:
    @Iris

    Forster used 1001 genomes

    https://www.pnas.org/content/117/17/9241

    Says 160 here and Forster was attacked left and right for his small sample size. Not aware he ever redid the analysis with more samples. Americans and Indians started removing outliners of their respective countries from the GISAID, not knowing that their shenanigans can be exposed by the negative genetic age when analysis is done on their finessed samples. You might be right we can never get to bottom of this because of these dishonest actions.

    https://www.pnas.org/content/117/23/12522

    Howeve, the Nextstain database have hundreds of thousands of samples now and I am sure there are a lot of people digging into It. It still use Wuhan as its root… Kind of like using the earth as the centre of the universe, as dux.ie puts it.

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global

    I commend you on your effort to get to the bottom of this and a scientific discussion of COVID is what we need here on Unz. You are on the right path. The Anti-intellualism and anti-science stance that Unz and others here have taken is despicable and conspiracy theories with preconceived conclusions doesn’t give us any insights or prevent the next pandemic. Saying it is an evil Amercian bioattack or evil CCP lab leak without evidence, witnesses, or names doesn’t help anyone.

    I am a layman like you so I am learning as I go. Just sharing information.

  444. 美国应邀请世卫组织对 COVID-19 进行全球研究

    这真可笑。 有没有人觉得这条线很搞笑?

  445. Mike Tre 说:
    @Ron Unz

    A million deaths from the beer flu? Try 20,000.

  446. Tom Rogers 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    This is helpful, thanks, and I appreciate you taking the time and trouble to provide this informed response.

    From what you say, it appears there is a lack of clarity in the reported methodology used to ‘isolate’ SARS-CoV 2 strains in published studies. A further question arises:

    Would you accept that the more radical sceptical commenters are taking advantage of this lack of clarity in the reported methodology in an effort to discredit the entire official response to Covid-19?

    It seems to me that ‘anti-Covid’ critics are making one of, or a combination of, the following arguments:

    (i). the official response to Covid-19 is flawed: the virus (or a virus) has not in fact been isolated according to accepted scientific standards;

    (ii). the official response to Covid-19 involves fraud: there is no virus, the whole thing is a fictitious hoax;

    (iii). virology itself is flawed or fraudulent: either viral agents have never been isolated and/or there are no viruses and the concept itself is entirely an invention of the scientific community, not a natural phenomenon.

    When replying, I would also be interested to know which of these positions, if any, you would hold to, given your credentials in medical epidemiology. It looks like you are closest to (i), i.e. you accept that viral isolates are scientifically-possible with existing techniques and the integrity of virology itself as a discrete discipline is not in question, it’s just that you believe the scientists may have engaged in flawed practices in regard to Covid-19 for whatever motivations. Is that a reasonable summary of where you stand?

  447. Iris 说:
    @Brás Cubas

    We would have to adapt his thesis a little bit, wouldn’t we? The release (or leak) would have happened at several places in China, and also Australia and the United States.

    Not really. People of course have complex opinions and should reply for themselves, but most proponents of an engineered virus also think that an early form of the virus was first released in the US, either accidentally, or deliberately as an experiment, cover-up, test, or means to assess in practice group immunity.

    I am sure you remember the US “vaping” epidemic, which syndrome was never clarified but which historic lung scans apparently match the Covid-19 syndrome. The people aware of a bio-weapon would have been many steps ahead as, unlike us the public, unlike the Chinese government, they already knew that the new virus had a low fatality rate.

    Ron Unz’s hypothesis makes sense:
    – If the virus’ release was accidental in the US, those responsible would have tried to cover themselves and not “let a good crisis go to waste” by forbidding testing in the US and by seeding Wuhan.
    – If the release in Wuhan was deliberate, those responsible were over-zealous and communicated too early about it. It is not the first time they take us for stupid mugs.

    Finally, it is certain that there were several Covid cases among the international delegations participating in the Wuhan Military Games, such as French athlete Elodie Clouvel, and despite foreigners being hosted separately from the Chinese population. What was the likelihood of this happening in a city of 11 million inhabitants, if not for the virus brought by the foreign visitors?

    https://www.leparisien.fr/international/covid-19-des-athletes-francais-contamines-a-wuhan-en-octobre-05-05-2020-8311221.php

    • 回复: @Brás Cubas
    , @acementhead
  448. Does anyone here know anything about the patent registration business? If so, would they comment on this.

    • 回复: @Iris
  449. @Howardofski

    The belief in experts is nothing more than a faith, and faith is nothing more than the art of believing what you are told to believe.

    They are all designated as experts or non-experts by the media, the politicians and their controllers. The media hacks generally have nothing more than a creative writing qualification while the politicians have degrees in splitting hairs. They all have an agenda. They all adopt a post-modern, post-truth philosophy.

    Every other story in the press starts out: “Experts say,…”

    • 谢谢: ivan
  450. ballbag 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    他说图表来自国家统计局的数据,要么学会阅读,要么回去睡觉

  451. @Iris

    People of course have complex opinions and should reply for themselves, but most proponents of an engineered virus also think that an early form of the virus was first released in the US, either accidentally, or deliberately as an experiment, cover-up, test, or means to assess in practice group immunity.

    Well, that is true, but Ron Unz is not among those people, and if that is not clear to you from the quote which I provided in my previous comment, he has made that clear enough in countless comments on this site. I will give you just one instance in which he said that, among many available:

    Unless something very strange was going on with the virus, there wasn’t any 2019 Covid epidemic in the US, or we would have noticed many tens of thousands of people getting hospitalized. To me, that’s much stronger evidence than all the claims about “A” or “B” viral version.

    https://www.unz.com/article/hitler-answers-roosevelt/?showcomments#comment-4236359

    • 谢谢: Iris
  452. ivan 说:
    @Chinaman

    Truth hurt doesn’t it ? Don’t try to teach me these things whoever you claim to be. Northern Italy is home to the largest cohort of Chinese workers in Europe. I know this because I did work in some connection with the fashion industry. I am certain I can find claims that the virus dates back to 2019. It doesn’t mean a fig if it does not fit the timelines of the various clusters of the outbreaks. And I wonder why you got so triggered after posing as a know-all . I’ve seen a few of your type off before.

    • 回复: @Chinaman
    , @Peripatetic Itch
  453. @Tom Rogers

    I would also be interested to know which of these positions, if any, you would hold to

    OK, do you want my Monday, Wednesday and Friday opinion, or the Tuesday, … opinion?

    You’ve laid out the possibilities fairly well but I would suggest you add a ii(a) which says mistakes are made by self-deception and group-think — what Thomas Kuhn calls normal science. Or by political direction from above.

    There’s more circular reasoning in science than you can shake a stick at. It’s rarely recognized until you have to compare your prevailing paradigm with a competing model. But that competing model never gets the funds to develop and run the tests required to show it is clearly better.

    Once you get in a mind-set it is extremely difficult to step back and look at your work objectively. In this case every researcher wants to move forward and find the cure. The plains buffalo being herded by American Indians have no idea they are about to go over a cliff until they find themselves in mid-air.

    Then there are a host of different possibilities in the way of theory. Looking at history, consider the instructive case of malaria, which comes from the Latin root for “bad air”. If you like, miasma. Basically they thought it came from the bad air of swamps for many generations. As an association it wasn’t all that bad. They drain the swamps and the disease abates. Science progresses in fits and starts.

    So, I have great respect for classical physics and chemistry. Physiology and molecular biology are based on those and have a cadre of dedicated and meticulous scientists who produce work I trust. Medicine, however, goes off the rails quite regularly and succumbs to the profit, celebrity and altruism motives. Virology is probably closer to medicine in several ways.

    So I can’t say whether viruses exist or not. Nevertheless physiology has made some considerable advances over the past year in controlling the outbreak whatever the cause: Ivermectin, HCQ, bromhexine, etc. They formulate their discoveries in terms of a virus etiology and so I tend to go with the flow.

    On the other hand, I also go with the flow on the non-viral models, trying to maintain my health as much as possible, which includes getting fresh air and sunshine to raise my Vitamin D levels.

    I remain skeptical on all the other crap, like masks and social distancing. Real possibility for fraud there.

    Are some radical skeptics taking advantage of the lack of clarity? No doubt. They get mentally committed to another explanation for the outbreak and take any course of action to buttress their arguments. That’s always been the way in science, as in politics, which are not all that different. The establishment does the same thing with them. It’s a dog-eat-dog world. Look for non-sequiturs and denigration in place of argument.

    Do stay focused on the objective facts, but also remember facts are often contaminated with big helpings of theory. There is but a tenuous relationship between theory and the real world.

    • 谢谢: Tom Rogers
    • 回复: @Tom Rogers
  454. @ivan

    Obviously, they suspected a leak from the L4 lab, for otherwise why resort to such draconian measures?

    废话。

    Obviously they suspected a bio-warfare attack from the USA and they knew that the vector was the USA military games team. The US team did not stay in the Games Village, with all the other teams, but in a hotel some 30 kilometres away. The hotel was just a few hundred metres from the “wet market”.

    Obviously some members of the the US team were deliberately spreading “the virus” and it was in the vicinity of the “wet market” so that the “wet market” could be blamed.

    About 5 members of the US team were hospitalised, not long after arriving in Wuhan, far too soon to have been infected after arrival. They brought it with them.

    I didn’t read any more after the quoted part as it was obviously just US propaganda.

    • 谢谢: Majority of One
  455. Chinaman 说:
    @ivan

    K

    I am certain I can find claims that the virus dates back to 2019. It doesn’t mean a fig if it does not fit the timelines of the various clusters of the outbreaks. And I wonder why you got so triggered after posing as a know-all .

    I try my best to educate\inform myself about a matter, however superficially, before I opine on it. You have made zero effort towards building a cogent and rational argument about the genesis of COVID that you can substantiate but instead went off on a racist rant with inane anecdotes and illogical progressions. This is not a fucking joke. Me and others have spent a lot of time trying to understand this and you flaunting your stupidity is an insult to all of us who is actually making an effort to understand what happened.

    I don’t mind the racist and white supremacist but you are one specimen of your race that should just shut the fuck up when the adults are debating a serious subject. Take your racism elsewhere.

    • 回复: @ivan
    , @acementhead
  456. @ivan

    And I wonder why you got so triggered after posing as a know-all .

    I was about to tag him as a troll after that quite unconscionable outburst, but I was running out of tags for the morning.

    I can verify your statement about the Chinese in Northern Italy. I checked out some official statistics a few months ago. Apparently, even, they manage to slip in and out of the country without proper documentation. Just because Italians have a hard time telling one Chinese person from another.

    • 回复: @ivan
    , @ivan
  457. @canspeccy

    Here’s more from the British Medical Journal on inflation of Covid numbers.

    Thanks for that. Excellent article. The covid fraud is the worst crime against humanity ever. By far.

    Thanks for all your good work on this.

  458. @Iris

    Not really. People of course have complex opinions and should reply for themselves, but most proponents of an engineered virus also think that an early form of the virus was first released in the US, either accidentally, or deliberately as an experiment, cover-up, test, or means to assess in practice group immunity.

    I am sure you remember the US “vaping” epidemic, which syndrome was never clarified but which historic lung scans apparently match the Covid-19 syndrome. The people aware of a bio-weapon would have been many steps ahead as, unlike us the public, unlike the Chinese government, they already knew that the new virus had a low fatality rate.

    是的。

    Ron Unz’s hypothesis makes sense:
    – If the virus’ release was accidental in the US, those responsible would have tried to cover themselves and not “let a good crisis go to waste” by forbidding testing in the US and by seeding Wuhan.
    – If the release in Wuhan was deliberate, those responsible were over-zealous and communicated too early about it. It is not the first time they take us for stupid mugs.

    是的。

    Finally, it is certain that there were several Covid cases among the international delegations participating in the Wuhan Military Games, such as French athlete Elodie Clouvel, and despite foreigners being hosted separately from the Chinese population. What was the likelihood of this happening in a city of 11 million inhabitants, if not for the virus brought by the foreign visitors?

    是的。

    Iris your English is near perfect( I have not detected any errors, and I’m cursed with the proof-reader’s gene), despite it not being your first language. Please list me as co-author on all you write on this subject.

    • 谢谢: Iris
  459. ivan 说:
    @Chinaman

    Can you kindly take a hike idjit? You are no sage to me. And let me tell you that your holding forth on the Foster diagram above may mean something to the ignorant like yourself but it amounts to nothing. The virii that vectored out of Singapore into the UK where do you think it came from? From Mars? It came through Chinese people fleeing helter-skelter in January and February of last year. There was a Keystone cops episode in Singapore where I live with the authorities frantically trying to trace about an hundred people who came for a Chinese New Year gathering from all over the world and promptly flew back to their homes in Europe and Australia. I am only mentioning this for the benefit of the other readers who may be taken in by your sagacious pronouncements.

  460. Iris 说:
    @CanSpeccy

    Does anyone here know anything about the patent registration business? If so, would they comment on this.

    One of France’s scientists who publicly reject the official Covid 19 narrative is a Pharmacology professor called Jean-Bernard Fourtillan, quite outspoken against the vaccine.

    Pr Fourtillan participated in a crowd-funded, Covid-denial documentary called “Hold-Up”, in which he publicly brought up the issue of the SARS-CoV2 virus being patented as early as 2015 by the Pasteur Institute.
    Apparently as a result of his intervention, Pr Fourtillan was forcibly sectioned in a psychiatric ward, which obviously caused a legitimate outrage among the public. He certainly comes across as respectable and genuine person.

    The patents he incriminated as proof of a pre-planned Covid conspiracy can all be found on his website, bottom page:
    http://ww.verite-covid19.fr/

    I haven’t had the time to look at his claims, but while the Pasteur Institute and others have indeed legally patented genetically-modified SARS viruses as early as 2015, these patents are live documents that can be updated any time, which would explain why they contain the phrase “新冠肺炎” without this being proof of conspiracy. Benign explanation credible and big pinch of salt required.

    • 谢谢: CanSpeccy
  461. @Chinaman

    All excellent comments Chinaman. My only criticism is the foul language addressed to scumbags such as ivan. I can certainly understand why you feel that way.

    Thanks for all your good work on this topic.

    • 哈哈: ivan
  462. ivan 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    The board is overrun with fakers like him. The was one ye olde Old Microbiologist who gaslighted about American athletes bringing the virii from Ft. Derrick sometime back. This twat though is a vulgar case unlike him.

  463. Akouo 说:

    Great article! I just happened to ‘pop’ my nosey head into a major English hospital today (Feb 4th) as I do regularly, once or twice a week to litmus check the NHS and how it’s presenting over the last 12 months. Normally it’s very quiet, in lockdown 1 it was completely empty whilst being billed as “under siege”. Today there were armoured police at every internal door, one each side,as well as the hospital security and, more intriguing, members of the armed services (not actually armed) also acting as security. When I asked an employee if there was a specific reason (I imagined a Mafioso in for his hernia etc) I was told that it was just “the covid” the new normal. I’ll admit that it spooked me. I’m going to plaster your article around the place.

  464. ivan 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    https://anti-empire.com/amp/singapores-accidental-covid-experiment-resulted-in-herd-immunity-and-just-1-death-per-75000-infections/

    I can verify the above as I passed the quarters that the foreign workers as we call them in Singapore quite often. One of the two deaths mentioned is quite possibly a suicide. It is also possible that the one other person got his infection from one of the Suzie Wongs from China.

    • 谢谢: Alfred
    • 回复: @JM
  465. @Tom Rogers

    It seems to me that ‘anti-Covid’ critics are making one of, or a combination of, the following arguments:

    I am as rabid an “anti-covid” as is possible. None of your points have anything to do with my position.

    My position is that governments have destroyed the world economy without first carrying out a cost/benefit analysis. The damage from the government mandated insanity is at least two orders of magnitude worse than having done almost nothing, and probably closer to three.

    The government criminals are using ‘deaths’ as a measure of the impact do to fatality. This is utterly mad. The only sensible measure is Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost. By this measure the impact of “the virus” is insignificant. The QALY lost due to the economic damage is vastly greater than the extra “lives lost” to “the virus” than doing almost nothing.

    I have the misfortune to live in New Zealand and we are beset by a moronic Prime Minister who ‘cares’ too much by has zero ability to think.

    The bill for the insanity will come in over the next few years. I don’t care, for myself, as I am old and have had a very good life, but the young people’s future has been destroyed.

    Thanks for all the straw.

    • 回复: @Tom Rogers
  466. My position is that governments have destroyed the world economy without first carrying out a cost/benefit analysis.

    But what do you say to the claim that Covid was, in fact, seized upon as justification for shutting down large parts of the economy consistent with the New World Ordure commitment to:

    “set ourselves on a new and more sustainable course,” (i.e., to reduce the GDP and lower our standard of living while confirming the principle that “to those that have more, shall be given”),

    to quote both Prince Charles and head of the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, who used the exact same form of words.

    你说:

    The government criminals are using ‘deaths’ as a measure of the impact do to fatality. This is utterly mad. The only sensible measure is Quality-Adjusted Life-Years lost.

    Yes, in the UK the Government’s own Department of Health and Social Care, Office for National Statistics, and Government Actuary’s Department and Home Office, stated exactly this in their July 15, 2020 report.

    特别:

    the estimates for the health impacts from a lockdown and lockdown induced recession are greater in terms of QALYs than the direct COVID-19 deaths

    你说:

    The bill for the insanity will come in over the next few years …the young people’s future has been destroyed.

    I think this is a too broad statement. The loss of 15, 25% or whatever it is of the GDP for a year or two won’t necessarily destroy any lives, literally or figuratively. What is much more serious is that governments are using a fake crisis to subordinate the masses to lies and regimentation.

    Under the Soviets, the Nazis, and every other dictatorship that has existed on earth, people are compelled to live with lies. The glory of Western civilization is that not only was speech free (relatively so, anyway) but reason was deemed the final arbiter of philosophical, political or scientific debate. But the West has now trashed Western Civ. We live in a world of “Information Tsars” or governments that have abandoned the idea that the masses are made up of rational creatures that if properly educated are capable of participating intelligently in democratic politics.

    Instead we are living in a government-created world of lies, where to advocate for equal opportunity is white supremacism, where to question the validity of an election result is an impeachable offense, where advocacy of the tenets of the Christian faith is condemned as misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, etc.

    What we face is far worse than an economic pot-hole: what the next generation faces the disintegration of the greatest civilization the world has ever seen, which means the abandonment of free speech and the loss of education in the use of logic as the means to understand the world.

  467. 谢谢。

    What we face is far worse than an economic pot-hole: what the next generation faces the disintegration of the greatest civilization the world has ever seen, which means the abandonment of free speech and the loss of education in the use of logic as the means to understand the world.

    Yes violently agree.

    Will be about a week until I can reply to the degree that this deserves.

  468. JM 说:
    @ivan

    From that address you posted:

    ‘There are two things going for Singapore that America and the west do not have. It is a fascist based economy where the wellbeing of its citizen takes center stage. that is why that city state has such a high standard of living an efficient economy and a clean city, but the most important is that Singapore is one of the centers for the 5-G and AI based economy. It does not need to lockdown its economy, shutter old businesses and revamp it to the new economy. It is already there.’

    Insightful comment indeed.

    BTW, of course you are right about the origins of the China-bug…though it’s trivial in its effects compared with what it has been used for.

    • 回复: @ivan
  469. Tom Rogers 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    Would it be a useful step for one of us to contact the scientists behind the published studies, or the peer-reviewed journals, or both, to seek clarification as to the methodologies used? Do you have any thoughts on this? I would be willing to do so.

    What you’ve just described about science itself is more or less exactly what I understand science to be. I’m well-aware that science is partly professional- and societal politics and that science driven by hypothetical reasoning lacks a rigorous way of framing inquiry. For instance, it seems obvious to me that Big Bang theory is an expression of religious belief using science concepts and language heavily influenced by confirmatory biases. Probably this cannot be improved on as a broad method, since science as a philosophical method and body of knowledge is a human invention, thus it will always be limited by human ontology, and anything that improves on this cannot be ‘science’ – it will either be God or something else on a higher plane.

    I’ve always assumed that medicine is not a strict science, and the various disciplines that are sciences are of varying methodological and epistemological purity. I would assume that the only real purist science is mathematics, but even that has subjective elements to it. How do we decide that 2 and 2 make 4 instead of 22? There’s a logic to it, but also convention: we have settled on this agreement on the basis of mathematical enlargement rather than concatenation: i.e. that if I have two things and add two things to it, then I have four things, which in turn is grounded in the need to count the value of things. But what if I am just expressing the sum symbolically rather than notationally? We can only discern which is which by understanding the context. (Perhaps that is a bad example – don’t get bogged down in it – nevertheless you may appreciate the point).

    • 回复: @canspeccy
    , @Peripatetic Itch
  470. ivan 说:
    @JM

    What you write is indeed the case. Manufacturing is one of the bright spots of the economy and it is well known that Singapore retooled itself to take advantage of the opportunities that opened up in such things as medical equipment, sensors, test kits and such. In fact I was told by a friend in church who is a patent agent that he almost all the patents he sees now are related to some aspect of the Covid industry.

    And I agree with you that Singapore has a highly competent civil and medical service. With this it could have taken any direction to control the virus outbreak and still succeed.

    Such though is not the case in large countries such as the US, India and Brazil. Therefore they should not have aped the countries of Singapore or Taiwan. One size does not fit all.

  471. Tom Rogers 说:
    @acementhead

    Actually, it’s not clear whether your position does come within at least one of the points I mentioned because you don’t touch on whether you believe there is a virus. You just appear not to have read my post properly. When you do, you can come back and tell us which of the positions is closest to yours.

    Furthermore, my post wasn’t intended to attack ‘anti-Covid’ people. I’m in the anti-Covid camp myself. I’m not engaging in strawmanning. I’m perfectly able to appreciate that I can’t cover every single position exhaustively, and frankly, it would be rather obtuse and overly-literal, even silly, to believe than I can.

    Not sure why you are attacking me or being snide/hostile. The post wasn’t even directed at you. If you have emotional or psychological problems of some sort, then you should seek help.

  472. Tom Rogers 说:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    With the greatest respect, I must beg to differ. I admit that I am not familiar with the trial in detail, and I must allow that you and Mr Kollerstrom will know more about all the facts and goings-on, and I also note Mr Kollerstrom attended the trial; but I do know about the law, and I must question Mr Kollerstrom’s grasp of the law and how the English legal process works.

    He clearly confuses the term habeas corpus with something else, which suggests that his research may be flawed. It is not just a titular misunderstanding, as you are implying. He clearly does not understand the basics because he thinks that to prove a body exists, the court must see it, hence why he gets confused and refers to habeas corpus. As I have explained, corpus delicti is simply a principle that in order for a person to be convicted of a crime (be it murder or anything else), the crime must be proved to have taken place. Sometimes this principle can take on great significance in its own right, but in most cases – including this one – it’s a fairly mundane hurdle because proof of a body can take many forms, and in most English murder trials, this will be adduced through pathological evidence, which can be cross-examined. If photographs and videos need to be considered by the jury, including of the autopsy itself, these can and will be admitted into evidence where it is relevant to the burden of proof. I expect in most cases they are seen. I can’t imagine why the jury would not see them, but my point is that just because they weren’t seen (assuming that’s even true), that doesn’t mean anything in itself.

    If you are suggesting that Thomas Mair was not the man in the dock, then you must meet a very high bar of proof to demonstrate that. I accept that as I am not familiar with the trial, I cannot rebut the allegation definitively. All I can say is that the allegation is ambitious and I am not prepared to put trust in claims by Mr Kollerstrom. He is sensationalist by nature and has an agenda.

    • 回复: @Peripatetic Itch
  473. Libre 说:

    这几个月一直在说。 都是骗局

    • 同意: John Wear, Herald
  474. canspeccy 说:
    @Tom Rogers

    I would assume that the only real purist science is mathematics

    Absolutely not. Mathematics is not a science at all. Science is the study of the structure and behavior of the world through observation and experiment. Experiment is driven by hypotheses, which may take mathematical form, but that does not make mathematics a science. Good scientists, Einstein for example, are generally not great mathematicians, and great mathematicians are rarely much interested in science.

    至于:

    I’ve always assumed that medicine is not a strict science

    Medicine is a matter of practice, it is not a science at all, although biological science relevant to medicine may be called medical science, but in that case it is merely a branch of biology.

    And as for your assumption that:

    the various disciplines that are sciences are of varying methodological and epistemological purity

    The essence of science is a lack of methodological and epistemological purity, cf. Paul Feyerabend 反对方法:

    “My intention is not to replace one set of general rules by another such set: my intention is, rather, to convince the reader that all methodologies, even the most obvious ones, have their limits. The best way to show this is to demonstrate the limits and even the irrationality of some rules which she, or he, is likely to regard as basic. In the case that induction (including induction by falsification) this means demonstrating how well the counterinductive procedure can be supported by argument.”

    • 回复: @Tom Rogers
  475. Herald 说:
    @Brás Cubas

    Nature isn’t too involved with Covid-19. The rebranding of other deaths plus lockdown deaths equals Covid-19. Manaus though equatorial, is far from being one of the wettest cities in the world. It isn’t in the northern hemisphere and what goes on there is largely irrelevant for the frozen north.

  476. Tom Rogers 说:
    @canspeccy

    All of the things you mention are matters of debate.

    • 回复: @CanSpeccy
  477. CanSpeccy 说:
    @Tom Rogers

    All of the things you mention are matters of debate.

    Only to those ignorant whereof they speak, and even you are not so ill-informed as to attempt to debate them.

    • 回复: @Tom Rogers
  478. @Sirius

    I call you out. You’re a liar and an idiot. Sue me.

    • 回复: @Sirius
  479. Iris 说:

    France’s earliest and most vocal critic of the official Covid 19 policies is Pr Didier Raoult.
    He got attacked and stigmatised not only for his unorthodox medical approach, but also for being a proponent of low-cost, patent-free Hydrochloroquine in the treatment of Covid patients.

    He is an eminent Epidemiology professor, and has treated and cured over 1000 Covid-19 patients at his Marseille hospital, so his opinion is worth listening to.

    This Friday, February 5, 2021, a 6-page long interview with Professor Raoult was published by 费加罗报 daily newspaper. Here are some extracts, reported on identitarian website “Egalite et Reconciliation” and quickly translated by myself:

    [更多]

    You have been fighting the dramatization surrounding this epidemic for a year. Why?

    I have noticed for years the growing gap between the media coverage of certain information and the reality of risk. There have been disproportionate alerts with Sars-CoV-1, chikungunya, Ebola and H1N1.

    But this time, the Sars-CoV-2 has really sowed chaos in all countries!

    It sowed chaos in the West !! In China, it was quickly brought down. When I said “it is end of game in China” back in May 2020, it seems to me that I was right. Yet 世界 [France’s leading newspaper] said it was fake news. Much of Asia quickly recovered. And Africa has held up well, too.

    Was it a surrender to panic, to have immobilized entire societies for a virus that mainly attacks one segment of the population?

    We now know that 80% of the people who die of Covid are over 75 or obese. Most of those under the age of 65 did not die from Covid, they died Covid, which is very different. When we looked in detail at the age and life expectancy associated with the pre-existing pathologies, we found that 90% of patients [who died] had a life expectancy of about one year.

    In addition, a significant proportion of deaths are attributed to Covid by doctors, without them being certain of it. The number of victims of Covid is certainly lower than that announced by the Health Ministry.

    However, Emmanuel Macron has solemnly told us that this virus was aimed at everyone…

    In this pandemic, almost only those with poor health or a very short life expectancy have died. The remaining deaths are above all the result of late care. This panic that gripped everyone from the beginning led the Health authorities to tell people not to consult a doctor, not to get care, to stay at home with their fever and to wait for very clear signs of shortness of breath to get to the hospital, whereas in this disease shortness of breath is already a late symptom.

    What were you advocating back then?

    For people to go to their GP. Nothing beats the clinical examination of the patient by the doctor who knows him. In case of suspicion of a severe form, the doctor could have measured the oxygen saturation level, which was a sure way to assess the actual condition of a patient well before the symptom of shortness of breath, or prescribe a CT scan. An upstream care strategy would have prevented hospital overcrowding. I have said it over and over again.[…]

    Recently, some media have believed that you were doing your MEA过失 on hydroxychloroquine. Actually, not at all. What is your current take on the topic?

    There were two fronts on hydroxychloroquine. On the first front, we have had bogus studies that affirmed the toxicity of this drug, while it had been administered to millions of patients over the past thirty years without problem. We faced these first attacks, which were completely delusional.[…]

    You attribute much of the discredit of hydroxychloroquine to an offensive by multinational drug companies…

    My team analysed in detail all of the doctors’ links with American firm Gilead, which marketed the Remdesivir, the drug that was supposed to allegedly cure us all from Covid. The result is astounding: on the one hand, the doctors linked to Gilead all said that hydroxychloroquine does not work, and on the other, all those whitout connection to Gilead say that it works.[…]

    Are you a conspiracy theorist?

    I’m too much of an admirer of Stoicism for that! I don’t fight against my time: I find it less complicated to live today than in Nero’s time. Living in a capitalist century doesn’t bother me at all.
    But I am lucid about the financialization of the pharmaceutical world. The problem for years has been that this industry no longer has much to discover. So it has to make money by selling products that have little interest. And it does so through corruption and lobbying.

    The British Medical Journal recently reported that Tamiflu was included in WHO essential medicines while it was known to be useless. When the drug entered the public domain [became patent-free and cheap ], WHO removed it from the list.[…]

    You said a lot that we would never get a vaccine in time…

    There was the surprise of messenger RNA. I’m not against good surprises.
    But you have to be very careful, and I’m not the only one to be cautious.

    Vaccines designed for emerging diseases over the past thirty years are not working well. Covid-19 is not a well-immunising disease, nor is influenza. I remind you that for the flu, we update the vaccine every year. We can’t say that flu disappeared because of the flu shot!

    Are you surprised at the choice that has just been made against a third lockdown, against the advice of the Scientific Council?

    The President was right. I have said this many times over the past year: social corrective measures do not work because they create too much collateral damage. The benefit-risk trade is not satisfactory. The only thing that works in controlling the epidemic is implementation of early testing, and the isolation of the sick.

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Carnets-de-guerre-Covid-19-Didier-Raoult-denonce-le-plus-grand-scandale-sanitaire-du-XXIe-siecle-62786.html

    Shockingly enough, Pr Raoult and other whistle-blowers are now being sued in courts by France’s Medical Council simply for having expressed their minority views.

    • 谢谢: CanSpeccy, Alfred
    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  480. Patric 说:

    There has been a huge amount of debate here sparked off by Kollerstrom’s essay. In all honesty I feel a lot of it misses the point and sends people into all kinds of tangents about the ‘virus’, how deadly is it, where did it come from etc etc. I think the truth is simpler and to keep it simple it is THERE IS NO VIRUS.

    It would take too long to prove but I feel Kollerstrom’s essay reflects that simple truth. i.e. There is not ‘excess mortality’ except what can be put down to the lockdown measures themselves. This was seen all over the world including the UK last March/April. This unfortunately is seen/used as the ‘reality’ of the virus but nothing could be further from the truth

    In that way this ‘pandemic’ reflects/recalls the ‘HIV/AIDS epidemic’ when it was realized by some people who were paying close attention (Peter Duesberg, Cary Mullis et al) that the ‘deaths’ blamed on AIDS as time went on were above all a function of the aggressive medication (AZT) being used. We have a similar situation here excess deaths in the UK for example are ticking up due to the ‘treatment’ (lockdown) and quite likely also as time goes on a function of the vaccines.

    In that way Okkam’s Razor is very much to the point but trying to prove that to ‘intellectuals’ is almost impossible. As we have seen here with much of the ‘debate’

  481. @Iris

    Thanks for that interview. He seems to contradict Dr Claus Köhnlein who claims that the early deaths were due to overdosing on hydroxychloroquine. Yet another unresolved controversy surrounding this Covid-19 and its treatment.

    • 回复: @Nancy
  482. anonomojoe 说:

    One serious complication regarding causation is the increasing levels of hydrogen cyanide toxicity we face, resulting from the extraction of fracked-fuels. These are contaminated right from the git with multiple chemicals. Being anywhere near their extraction point is bad enough, but refining and burning these contaminated fuels may be even worse. The NOx —> HCN chemistry leads to refineries seeking higher emission limits. Battles are being fought and videoed all over this country. People walking away from houses due to illness, children in Louisiana and Colorado not able to play outside, toxic gasses bubbling up in streams, and far too many other examples to even list.

    Compare the symptom-lists of Covid-19 and Hydrogen Cyanide poisoning.

    They are literally identical.

    https://harvoa-med.blogspot.com/2020/04/COVID2020.html

    Jim West has mapped the proximity of Covid-19 global hot-spots to their neighboring refineries, power plants and wind directions at the link above, where he also makes note of which countries are reliant on fracked-fuels. These are powerful associations that require further investigation.

    Check out the Infrared Photography done by Earthworks. It will blow your mind the “invisible” pollution that grassroots is documenting. https://www.youtube.com/c/Earthworks/videos

    It makes me wonder about burning fracked-gas for indoor heating, not to mention the hazard involved in daily walks along high-traffic roads.

    That so much of this fracked-oil and gas is being exported leads to questions about the cost-benefit involved regarding dead-zones the multi-national companies are leaving in their wake and the unregulated toxicity leaking from and being vented from their infrastructure. It surely makes one wonder about how dire the Energy Cost of Energy may actually be. That’s a far more important consideration than any paper-vehicle in the world of finance, and may well have something fundamental to do with the economic repression we’re experiencing. More on the ECoI investigation over at Tim Morgan’s site. https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/

    • 同意: Patric
    • 谢谢: Brás Cubas, Nancy
  483. Sirius 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    I’ll need your address so I can have you served. But then again, what could I win? You probably have no assets worth suing for.

    Usually it’s idiots like you who call others “idiots”. Do you have any argument at all? When you do, write something that doesn’t show you to be brainless.

    I simply shared my experience. I don’t see why it’s so incredulous to some (look up “incredulous” if you don’t know what it means, bonehead).

  484. Iris 说:

    He seems to contradict Dr Claus Köhnlein who claims that the early deaths were due to overdosing on hydroxychloroquine.

    Hi Mike; thanks for your feedback.

    The only sensible criticism I have read so far is that Hydrochloroquine may not work on late-stage Covid sufferers, which are/should be a tiny minority if patients were cared for properly.

    Browsing the French-speaking press, one finds that Algeria for instance has officially rejected this criticism, with its Health Minister calling it a “Franco-French vendetta” and his country relying heavily on Hydrochloroquine. Of course, they do so because because it is patent-free and low-cost, but Algeria has a far better Covid record than France, although its younger population accounts for their good results too.

    Also, you remember this alleged Chloroquine study published by The Lancet, authored by members of the Superior Tribe, which was supposed to be “”the largest observational study published to date on the effects of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine”” ?

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31174-0/fulltext#:~:text=In%20The%20Lancet%2C%20Mandeep%20Mehra%20and%20colleagues%205,positive%20for%20severe%20acute%20respiratory%20syndrome%20coronavirus%202.

    Well, not only it was quickly retracted, but much worse, it was proven to be fraudulent as it was based on entirely made-up data provided by a mysterious, ad-hoc data provider nobody had heard of before, and which seems to have been created for the occasion:
    https://ahrp.org/the-lancet-published-a-fraudulent-study-editor-calls-it-department-of-error/

    There was clearly a coordinated effort, above national level, to undermine a drug that was available, patent-free and cheap. Considering how early the Hydrochloroquine controversy started, one has to ask whether this propaganda effort was hastily improvised, or whether those in charge knew in advance more than we did about the Covid-19 syndrome.

    • 同意: Alfred
    • 谢谢: Commentator Mike
    • 回复: @Factorize
  485. Sirius 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    It’s bizarre to see immediate accusations of lying. What could possibly be my motivation to do so? Some people here think everything’s a conspiracy and give a bad name to proper conspiracy theorists. I don’t know what any of them are trying to prove, that Covid doesn’t exist?

    • 同意: Wizard of Oz
  486. Anon[334]• 免责声明 说:

    “ recent US CDC report agreed with the approach we’ve here taken, that the significance of CV19 can only be appreciated in terms of total mortality.”- Wrong . It s significance can be assessed by looking into the rapid transmission and overwhelming of health delivery system . It’s significance can be understood by looking into the ways people suffer before dying and suffer after surviving . It’s significance can be understood by
    it’s impact on the elderly with diseases and on heathy with no diseases but being male, obese , having blood group A , being Latino . It’s significance can by understood by looking into myriad complex symptoms outside the nose and the throat or the lungs .

    Covid non- believers comprise of diverse groups . Some of them are brain doused with Trump’s turpentine . ( Moron Trump followers believe that either it’s simple flu or it’s made in China if it is serious ) . Trump is that moron who jacked up the faith , stock price and scarcity of Hydroxychlorouine but he didn’t insist on having them in his treatment regime . Did any White House staff take it ?
    Other non -believers have lost faith in US institutions – medical or media .
    Some just want to sound different by standing on opposite spectrum . Looking and sounding different can be self – esteem enchanting .
    Others are angry with Democrats and the phenomenon of guilt by association played the part . Instead i or f guilt , we have anger and hatred . Instead of confining the hate to democrat politicians , they have spread to each message that sits opposite the aisle promoted by Trump .

    Then there are bible thumper . Thumping of Bible is always a good business .
    Some believe because they would believe anything that is flavored with passion anger racial undertone and anti science .

    This is from Yahoo:
    “ Between October 1 and January 30, just 155 Americans were hospitalized with the flu, compared to 8,633 during roughly the same time frame a year ago. That’s a 98% decrease. Labs in the US have collected and tested more than half a million samples for the flu since late September, but just 0.2% of those samples tested positive (1,300 in total), according to the Centers fo