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几乎每天都会遇到像人们发现的那种病态美德的白人对警察的批评 根管培训工作室美国国家公共电台,其中许多批评都是荒谬的,我发现自己想问这些令人不快的好人:

你认识警察吗? 你知道吗? 我的意思是对他们很了解,可以在下班后喝杯啤酒,或者邀请他们到你家聚会。 你真的和警察谈过吗?

和我想的一样。

让我们试试这个:你有没有听过未经编辑的采访或任何采访,其中有任何警察或安全人员被指控无故杀害黑人? 还是和他们的律师? 有任何警察吗? 也就是说,与任何可能展示他们故事一面的人在一起?

我也没有。

你有没有想过可能有 be 故事的另一面?

然而,我自信地假设你已经听到了各种各样的活动家和谈话的负责人,他们不在那里提出他们不直接了解的事件。 毫无疑问,您从 Jesse 和 Al、B​​arack 和 Michelle、Hillary、Black Lives Matter 以及所有评论员那里听到了很多。 但是警察什么都没有,对吧? 也就是说,你对警察、他们的工作条件以及特定事件的全部理解都是由媒体精心制作的。 不?

现在,你为什么不认识任何警察? 至少有两个原因。 作为病态美德白人 (PVW),您几乎可以肯定是大学毕业生。 警察是蓝领。 PVW 不会与他们认为下等的人交往,就像他们不会让自己的女儿和水管工约会一样。

我错了吗? 你有一个亲密的蓝领朋友吗? 或者有蓝领朋友吗?

你不认识任何警察的另一个原因是警察和他们的家人往往是宗族的,主要与其他警察和他们的家人交往。 这是有原因的。 一是人们对警察感到不安,而在社交场合,警察对 PVW 感到不舒服。 如果你邀请十几个朋友去后院烧烤,其中一个是警察,如果客人不知情,拔出一个接头并点燃它,会发生什么? 警察会逮捕他吗? 假装没看见? 成为一项很好的运动并冒着失职的风险? 人们甚至会在有警察的情况下谈论他们在 XNUMX 年代的经历吗? (“我当时正在使用裸盖菇素和……”)

如果有些客人有点,呃,喝醉了然后开车回家怎么办? 他是否应该对他们进行清醒测试以保护公众? 什么时候警察不是警察?

此外,警察是男性化的,这种情况很少被 PVW 实践或批准。 他们很保守,喜欢枪。 你会敏锐地意识到他们不是你的那种人。 他们会知道你在想这个。

所以你对他们、他们的工作或他们的工作条件一无所知。 尤其是后者。 空白的无知让你对警察有强烈、简单的想法和虔诚的愤慨,而没有任何与现实矛盾的危险。 你们朋友都会有相同的想法,你们都会喜欢欣赏自己固有的正确性。

对于你对警察的厌恶,至少有两种解释,你可能都无法理解。 在街上,警察必须很顽固,否则就会失去权威。 公民在与警察互动时会很痛苦。 他们会撒谎、争吵、咆哮、威胁和狡猾。 在警察到达她的车门前,一个漂亮的女人把裙子撩起来,眼睛瞪得大大的。 男性,尤其是成群结队的男性,会试图通过肢体或激烈争论来恐吓军官。 他们都认识市长。 警察为什么不抓 真实 罪犯? 警察维护其权威的唯一方法是面无表情且不友好。 因此,一个在巡洋舰上笑着讲故事的警察变成了街上的机器人警察。

PVW 讨厌警察的另一个原因是自负。 假设您是四十五岁的银行行长,或空军中将,或市财务长的妻子。 你四十多岁了,自尊心很强。 你习惯于尊重他人。 您会因超速而被拦下,或者更糟的是,摇晃出您的车道。 警察今年二十二岁。 一个高中毕业生。

这个…孩子……可以像个犯错的孩子一样教训你,命令你下车,让你走直线或向阿尔卡尔森吹气,如果他确定你喝醉了就扣押你的车,必要时把你戴上手铐逮捕并发送你去几个月的酒驾学校。 你必须接受它。 没有追索权。

来自一个二十二岁的孩子。

除非你是个白痴,否则大部分不会发生,但孩子可以做到。 这会以错误的方式折磨病态善良的白人。

现在,让我们更深入地想象一下,你被要求穿上警察制服,花三个月时间与真正的警察一起在纽瓦克、芝加哥或底特律市中心步行三个月。 这会如何影响你的思想?

太好了

你会发现自己身处一个全黑的社区,这可能是你人生中的第一次。 你不会像你的多元文化自我想要的那样舒服。 人们看起来并不友好,尤其是年轻人。 会有冷眼的、死一般的凝视。 我曾经称之为鲨鱼的眼睛。 你认为你没有的阶级和种族区别会很难。

人们会讨厌你。 它会对您的系统造成冲击,因为它与所有事物都运行 美国国家公共电台 已经告诉你思考。 你会经历奴隶制、压迫、白人特权的洗衣清单,但当你经历过之后,他们仍然会恨你。 作为临时警察,您必须处理存在的问题,而不是您认为应该存在的问题。

突然之间,你在电视上看到的抽象的黑人杀害警察,也许一半认为他们应得的,不会那么抽象。

你会发现,当你逮捕一个当地人时,不管犯了什么罪,你都会因此而被憎恨。 如果你拒绝因任何事情逮捕任何人——你将开始看到他的智慧——根管培训工作室美国国家公共电台 会因为你不做你的工作而攻击你。

你会意识到,警察并不是全副武装的暴徒恐吓无助和畏缩的黑人公众。 警察很脆弱。 任何在街上经过你的人都可以用冰锥刺入你的身体,或者从后面把你的头炸掉。 当你穿过一群根本不喜欢你的年轻人时,他们会在你的两边,在前面,在后面。 你,一个 PVW,可能会转过头向后看,让你看起来很害怕。 不好的举动。 如果你表现出恐惧,他们就会负责。

我不是编造的。 在我写的时候,标题是三名警察在新奥尔良被黑人杀害。

几天后,敌意就会开始侵袭你。 你可能想举起双手说:“看,我和你在一起。 我理解你几个世纪以来的痛苦。 我承认我的罪。 原谅我。”

这行不通。 没有人喜欢呜咽的小猫,通常包括小猫。 你会慢慢地意识到,当人们强烈不喜欢你时,你就会开始不喜欢他们。 当你害怕他们时,不喜欢来得更快。 你会开始使用像dirtbag、knucklehead、perp这样的词。 或者至少想想他们。

在警察兄弟会闲逛,您会发现大多数警察都很讨人喜欢。 这个发现可能会打扰你。 你不会喜欢它,因为它会破坏珍贵的先入之见。 你会发现一些警察确实按照你的训练来推动黑人 华盛顿邮报。你会发现,令人困惑的是,你喜欢一些推动的人。 有他们在街上,你会觉得更安全。 你会发现黑人警察经常比白人警察更严厉地推搡黑人。 这会让你更加困惑。

你会看到会改变你的事情。 这名金发 XNUMX 岁的强奸受害者尖叫着、哽咽着、抽泣着,一名护理人员试图将镇静剂注入她的手臂。 你会注意到你伴侣的指节在他的警棍上变白了,几乎听不见,非常恳切,“上帝,我希望他能拒绝被捕。” 这不会让你赞成警察的暴行,无论如何一开始都不会,而且你可能会适当地嘟囔着陷入困境的青年和白人特权。 但是你会开始思考。

你会意识到病态美德白人不知道的事情。 他们认为他们这样做了,但甚至没有接近:狗屎发生在街上。 真的,真的很糟糕。 死人脸上的皮都被剥光了,就像被一把 Exacto 刀一样,眼睛像煮鸡蛋一样盯着。 一个死在垃圾箱里的小女孩,双手被绑着,因为被关在壁橱里,她的体重是她这个年龄的一半,几乎没有吃饱,手腕上的疤痕因绳索太紧而化脓。 是的,我知道。 妈妈的童年很糟糕。 在八月份炎热的时候,那个在五角大楼沿公园路的灌木丛中为了女朋友而自暴自弃的家伙一周后发现:黑色渗出的液体充满了蛆虫。 孩子们在纵火中被烧死,水煮火腿的颜色,肚子因为内部液体沸腾而爆炸。

你永远不会忘记这样的事情。 以上内容并非虚构。 我看到了他们所有人。 又是在办公室找大城市警察的一天。 在你三个月后,哦,病态善良的白人 - 三个月的模棱两可,猜测有时是错误的,看到痛苦和贪婪以及不悔改的恶毒 - 你会得出警察的常规结论,没有答案,人类很抱歉很多。 但是你会知道你在说什么——你会发现这是一种新奇的体验。

(从重新发布 弗雷德对一切 经作者或代表的许可)
 
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  1. fnn 说:

    They shoot way too many dogs.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  2. Priss Factor [又名“多米尼克·弗兰肯学会”] 说: • 您的网站

    这个怎么样?

    Let all the good white Libs become police officers.

    Let them deal with all those wonderful Negroes.

    Then, all the problems will go away.

    Libs need to stop concentrating on media and academia and instead enter the police and deal with blacks.

    They can show us the proper way.

    It’s like all those nice white Liberal teachers fixed black schools. LOL.

  3. Priss Factor [又名“多米尼克·弗兰肯学会”] 说:

    Sympathology

  4. Priss Factor [又名“多米尼克·弗兰肯学会”] 说:
    @fnn

    Too many people raise pitbulls.

  5. Macilrae 说:

    A really well-crafted piece here from Fred – apart from agreeing with every word I can’t think of anything to add.

  6. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    听起来有点像警察团伙,但无论如何都非常重要。 警察已经失去了对纳税和不纳税的公众的所有信任,他们对自己做了这件事。 如果他们报名的工作太难了,他们总是可以辞职去做别的事情。

    如果有些客人有点,呃,喝醉了然后开车回家怎么办?

    最有可能的是,醉酒的客人是警察。

    他们很保守,喜欢枪。

    我也是。 退休的狮子座。

    • 同意: PiltdownMan
    • 回复: @El Tigran
    , @Grandpa Jack
  7. Police officers are not all the same. But too many of them are criminals. This of course because they are above the law. I’m old enough to remember when cops were mostly the good guys. If things were bad they got better when the cops got there. Not any more.

    You’re not talking to me Fred. I’m more working class than the cops. I won’t knowingly associate with them because I don’t trust them and they are, for the most part, assholes. Neither do I associate with white people who march with BLM. Not that they would want to associate with me. BLM is a tool of the elite used to sow anger and strife in American society. The same elites who refuse to prosecute crimes committed by police.

    • 回复: @joef
  8. 警察的事情发生了变化。这是一份有保障的工作,工资也不错,所以现在它吸引了许多在自己的领域找不到工作的大学毕业生。我认识一个拥有流行文化或类似学位的人,他最终在一个黑人占多数的大城市里当了交通警察。他是一个有趣的人——当然是一个自由主义者,可能是桑德斯的选民,但他已经获得了一定的现实主义优势。他的妻子是个十足的 SJW,所以我敢打赌,过去几个月他们家里肯定发生过一些有趣的争吵。

  9. @Priss Factor

    “Let all the good white Libs become police officers.” I’m with you on this one. These people love bashing whites so much, and hate themselves for being white, I think it makes perfect sense for them to be on the receiving end of the black rage they do so much to stir up and propagate. They would probably enjoy it, in fact. If they hate themselves so much & other whites, it makes sense they should get the chop to make amends for the white privilege, the white guilt and every other wrong – past, present and future – that whites have supposedly committed and are about to do.
    The dindus will make short work of them. And good riddance.

  10. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    I absolutely love Fred’s work, but this article only covers a sliver of the cop / citizen dysfunction. BLM has a point, but they could not possibly do a worse job of preventing it or using worse examples. But they still have a point and a lot of poor ghetto blacks get the shit beaten out of them by cops and there is enormous frustration because they are not built for functioning in a Euro derived society with rules and laws for everything imaginable.
    除了黑人之外,大多数中产阶级和下层中产阶级白人都鄙视警察,因为警察咄咄逼人地尾随他们,拿着雷达枪坐在路边,居高临下地进行几乎没有任何意义的讲座,因为警察的智商高达 90,不断违反交通法规所有纳税人每天都目睹这种便利,并对此暗暗愤怒。警察也总是互相掩盖卑鄙的罪行,并毁掉了数百万孩子的生活,因为他们有一袋大麻。
    Fred is technically right here, but it’s kind of pointless since it covers so little of the relations between cops and taxpayers.

    • 回复: @Ace
    , @Faust
    , @helena
  11. 我决不迷恋威权主义,也不对队伍中的任何特殊善良抱有幻想,但我也知道弗雷德说的是真的,我会抓住一切机会向我遇到的人传播善意。 只是为了对抗不断堆积的冲突,并使我们所有人的生活变得更糟。 你通过减少进攻挽救的生命甚至可能是你自己的。

  12. 如果没有黑人和墨西哥犯罪警察就不必如此咄咄逼人。如果这仍然是一个白人国家,我怀疑警察会是这样的混蛋。

    • 回复: @E. Rekshun
    , @Tony
    , @AndrewR
  13. Truth 说:

    Fred, I had a Pure Math PHD friend of mine come up with a sophisticated algorithm that should alleviate your “Uncle Tim” criticism.

    He showed me the whiteboard with which he had worked out the equation, and it had thousands of columns of numbers from reach level down to his waist, mathematical symbols I couldn’t understand, etc. I was lost, but then he made it simple he said:

    “Tell Fred Reed that if he writes 6 anti-Negro articles to every 1 pro-Mestizo article, and brings up how his 1st white wife turned into a fat, ugly, old feminist shrew, for each time he mentions his current wedded bliss in May-hee-co, he should mitigate his criticism from all but the most ardent WN’s.

  14. E. Rekshun 说:
    @Son of Dixie

    如果没有黑人和墨西哥犯罪警察就不必如此咄咄逼人。

    Without black and Mexican crime, 50% of all cops wouldn’t have a job.

    • 回复: @Ace
  15. anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    I don’t know why people think cops were better, friendlier people back in the old days. Perhaps in smaller towns and such they were but not everywhere. In places like Chicago they were famously crooked and greedy with their hands always out for bribes, freebies and extortion. They had territories carved up amongst themselves for extorting monthly payments from bars with the bagmen making the rounds collecting the monthly payments and turning it over to the police district commanders who then divvied it up. Police vied with each other to become district commanders because that was the most lucrative position. They also had burglary rings. In those days cops could be as brutal as they pleased and beat you to a pulp with no repercussions unless you had some sort of connections that could protect you. Nowadays police are, in my opinion, less crooked because their pay and pensions are better and worth protecting. There’s more cameras and oversight now. However, they’re now more like an occupying army, riding around like so many robo-cops, fearing and hating the average people out there. Anyone who has been in the military should be excluded from being a policeman. There’s too much of an us-versus-them mentality. The average person is stuck between the ghetto rats and other criminal predators on the one hand and the jumpy robo-cops on the other who want you to raise your hands and walk slowly as though you’re part of some subject population under military occupation and not at all as though you’re a supposedly free person living in a free country.

    • 回复: @Marcus
  16. “-you would come to the cop’s routine conclusion that there are no answers and that the humans are a sorry lot.”

    But there’s not much market for that truth.

    99.44% of the people who read this article and nod their agreement still think that if the world would only listen to them things would be so much better.

  17. Stealth 说:

    Spare me. No one hates BLM much more that I do, but the cops are no saints. I know plenty of them, by the way, so nobody can discredit me by saying i’m not acquinted with any police officers. Far from “just doing their jobs,” many cops actively seek trouble, often attempting to escalate innocuous encounters into altercations that justify arrest and physical assault. What happened to Sandra Bland is recorded for everybody to see. I myself have been in the same situation but didn’t take the bait. One of the worst things about BLM is that it is dismissive of white victims.

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    , @AndrewR
  18. @Truth

    Fred, I had a Pure Math PHD friend of mine come up with a sophisticated algorithm that should alleviate your “Uncle Tim” criticism.

    Yeah, I had an Evangelical Pure Friend come up with a sophisticated algorithm that IDed an individual pseudonymed “Truth” as a pure asshole.

    • 回复: @Truth
  19. No amount of rhetoric from either side of the “Cops Good/Cops Bad” issue (which is meaningless and referentially insufficient) acts to justify breaking the law.

  20. Marcus 说:
    @anonymous

    Yeah cops in big cities were always crooked, small towns often didn’t have much of a police dept at all.

    • 回复: @Talha
  21. @Priss Factor

    Too many cops roam our streets while armed. Disarm the cops.

    • 回复: @Hibernian
    , @RadicalCenter
  22. Talha 说:
    @Marcus

    嘿,马库斯,

    I remember visiting the Balkans area (Kosovo specifically) about a decade ago – wife was working for a relief agency. Anyway, I’ll never forget the sight, but I remember two cops walking the beat side by side just talking, and they passed by some random toddler and one of them stooped down, picked him up and kissed him and then just put him down and the two continued on. When I asked my hosts regarding this, they said – oh yeah, everybody kind of knows everyone else around here, this cop went to high school with me, etc. Maybe the solution is to make sure the cops that patrol the streets are from that very neighborhood.

    The two immediate dangers with this that I see are; 1) you don’t want the local cops to become the neighborhood mafia and 2) retaliation against the cop’s family – but if good vetting is done…perhaps…

    But maybe there just is no solution for major metropolitan centers.

    和平:

    • 回复: @Marcus
  23. Truth 说:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Hell, you should have just asked “Truth”, I’m sure he would have told you that.

  24. Marcus 说:
    @Talha

    Yeah the local PD’s often had very amicable relationships with the community in small American towns as well; over the past few decades, beginning with Reagan’s intensified “war on drugs” and the rise of the prison industry, we’ve seen a kind of militarization of nearly all police forces to the point where they are viewed almost as an occupying forcehttp://wispindex.org/#/global-rankings/
    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2011/02/06/the-disastrous-legacy-of-ronald-reagan-in-charts/

    • 回复: @Talha
  25. bossel 说:

    三个月的警察为 BLM 活动家。 那可能会变得有趣。

    一般来说,一个不错的作品,但这个:

    警察维护其权威的唯一方法是面无表情且不友好。

    听起来像废话。 在某些方面可能是正确的,但并非在所有地方都是如此。 在欧洲,我遇到过警察,他们甚至在开超速罚单时也非常友好。 没有问题。 您仍然可以拥有权威并保持友好。 但这显然也取决于获得门票的人。

    • 回复: @Ace
  26. Talha 说:
    @Marcus

    Yeah man – and now drones. They just offed that one sniper with a robot. What technical barrier is there for them to observe (and eliminate) the populace through drones? Justification can always be retroactively provided.

    For my part, I’m always friendly with individual cops (whether on or off duty) and have known a couple in my day; not because I want to ingratiate myself with them, but because the guy is a human being and I treat him with the same respect and friendliness I grant to anybody else that would approach me – no more, no less. And if I am at fault for the ticket, well, just own up to it like I would with any mistake – we live in a society of laws for a reason.

    和平:

    • 同意: Ace
  27. El Tigran 说:

    Jesus, what a powerful column. Thank you, Fred.

  28. El Tigran 说:
    @Anonymous

    ” If the job that they signed up for is too tough, they can always resign and go do something else.”
    An excellent rejoinder, and the beautiful part is it can be said to anyone, anywhere, in any job or role whatsoever, who ever complains about anything at all.
    eg Hillary doesn’t like nasty criticisms: ” If the job that she signed up for is too tough, she can always resign and go do something else.”
    eg high school teacher at minority dominated or inner city school gets roughed up: ” If the job that they signed up for is too tough, they can always resign and go do something else.”
    eg gay soldier being discriminated against: ” If the job that he signed up for is too tough, he can always resign and go do something else.”

    Gotta remember this one 🙂

    • 回复: @Undocumented Shopper
  29. E. Rekshun 说:

    Remember, when seconds count, a cop is only a few minutes away!

    • 回复: @pyrrhus
  30. Tony 说:
    @Son of Dixie

    Bullshit. There were plenty of asshole cops when I was a kid. That was the 1950’s in a 95% white area.

    • 回复: @Wally
  31. @El Tigran

    This rejoinder is typical of people who do not see any need to improve anything. Such as South African minister Charles Nqakula who said “they can simply leave this country” in response to complaints about South Africa’s rate of rape.

  32. 警察很脆弱。 任何在街上经过你的人都可以用冰锥刺入你的身体,或者从后面把你的头炸掉。

    这是警察的幻想,但并没有得到证据的证实。 鉴于警察杀害平民的速度是平民杀害警察的六倍,我认为谁是更脆弱的群体很明显。

  33. Aschwin 说:
    @Pseudonymic

    那是因为您的统计数据包括美国白人。 美国黑人更有可能杀死一名警察,反之亦然。

  34. Hibernian 说:
    @Chris Mallory

    Bobbies on bicycles two by two. That’s the ticket. Crime rates will plummet immediately.

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  35. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Hey, Fred- If cops are so great, then why do they put a gun to my head, FORCING me to pay for their services?

    • 回复: @biz
  36. pyrrhus 说:

    As a middle class kid who was raised before the gated community came into existence, I came to know everyone from cafeteria workers to nuclear scientists. BTW, plumbers make a lot of money these days, so they have risen in public esteem…..Anyway, from childhood and professionally, I have had contact with a fair number of cops, the majority of whom were highly professional. My nephew was a cop…But I can’t say the same for Chiefs of Police, many of whom are political appointees. I have seen a couple of things that are highly problematic….First, the double standard. Cops are routinely allowed to skate for everything from drunk driving to spousal abuse to….unwarranted violence. In my home town, an unarmed 96 year old was tasered by a rookie cop and died. Completely unacceptable, but no punishment was forthcoming…Similarly, the fact that some cops have anger management problems is all too obvious, as are the results of that anger…yet it is difficult to get these people off the force. Finally, the willingness of cops to lie on the witness stand, and for prosecutors to encourage such perjury, encourages the opinion that the system is rigged…..Meanwhile, police unions (like teachers’ unions) defend the bad/incompetent cops ferociously, which prevents anything getting fixed.

    • 回复: @Cloudbuster
  37. pyrrhus 说:
    @E. Rekshun

    Or sometimes hours….arm yourself.

  38. expeedee 说:
    @Pseudonymic

    Well of course. Cops are suppose to be better in a gunfight otherwise Gunsmoke wouldn’t have run so many seasons.

  39. @Hibernian

    I am in more danger from an armed cop than I am from any criminal. My safety is more important than some overpaid,pampered government employee’s.

    • 回复: @Ace
    , @Delinquent Snail
  40. Marty [又名“小刀片”] 说:

    I single-handedly saved a cop’s job once. I was a rookie lawyer, what they call a research attorney, in a famously conservative county, writing memos to judges about how various civil cases should be decided. A deputy sheriff sued the county after being fired, supposedly for being overly rough in steer-wrestling a PCP-addled inmate, breaking his collarbone. The deputy’s lawyer had no clue as to any available theory of relief. The judge was a lifetime prosecutor who knew nothing about employment law, and left it to me. I thought something smelled funny, like maybe this cop somehow wasn’t in the club, and ruled that without written guidelines on prohibited control techniques, the firing was was out of line.

    Why do I bring this up? Just to establish my bona fides for saying that cops are jerks. Don’t get me wrong, as against groids I’m with the cops. But man, have they treated me like crap. Cops always go with institutional power against the individual.

  41. fish 说:
    @Truth

    See…it’s trolling like this that makes me really appreciate you.

    We’ve been subjected to ridiculous “Tiny Duck” blatherings recently and it is really been a huge disappointment.

  42. dcite 说:

    I had an uncle who was a cop. He was wounded in France in WWII; when he got home, he just needed a job so he became a cop. He was very un-crooked but he knew some crooked cops, including a brother. I doubt he was a bully, but once he did say if a man parked illegally, and asked my uncle not to write a ticket because he’d be right out, my uncle would usually say no because the guys almost never did come right back. If a woman asked my uncle, he’d usually say yes, you can park for a few minutes, because she really came right back. He didn’t mention whether looks increased his trust on that point — I don’t think so. Anyway, that was his experience.

  43. Wally 说: • 您的网站
    @Tony

    Nobody said there wasn’t.

    你的观点是什么?

    • 回复: @AndrewR
  44. Wally 说: • 您的网站

    Q: Pathologically Virtuous Whites, where do you live?

    A: Nowhere nears blacks & browns.

    Q: How much of your income have you donated for ‘reparations’? See:

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/29/reparations-site-invites-white-people-give-money-goods-services-minorities/

    答:沉默。

  45. Wally 说: • 您的网站
    @Stealth

    确实:

    “对《华盛顿邮报》警方枪击案数据的分析显示出令人惊讶的结果–白人比被警察枪杀的黑人高出近2倍”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/analysis-of-washington-post-police-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/

  46. A lot of people seem to have a funny idea about the current state of American police work. Paul Craig Roberts’ column in the Unz Review features breathless tales of Israeli paramilitary trainers embedded in local police departments who have the green light to turn PD’s into modern-day Einsatzgruppen. The reality is 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

    Today’s police are hired and trained to be social workers with badges. Any actual crimefighting is incidental. For example, this “reform project” at a medium-sized department on the Left Coast:

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article92837377.html

    This is not an isolated example. The “President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing” encourages this type of emasculation initiative nationwide. It is a rare department now that does not have some type of LGBT reacharound – er, outreach – officer who will be pestering businesses to sign up for the Safe Places Initiative (a Seattle PD effort, sponsored by Starbucks’ Howard Schultz) and badgering these businesses to display a rainbow sticker in their windows. As a result, we have more and more officers who resemble the FutureCops in Demolition Man: “We’re police! We’re not trained for this type of violence!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOQitInC84

    Police work remains as dangerous as Fred describes, and the “uncooperative” elements of society grow ever bolder as they (rightly) sense that their aggression will be met with appeasement. The overwhelming majority of municipal police chiefs (NOT sheriffs) are Neville Chamberlain clones. We need Churchills — or David Clarkes.

  47. Ace 说:
    @Anonymous

    *** and ruin the lives of millions of young kids because they have a bag of pot. ***

    Prosecutors can dismiss minor charges and, anyway, a “mere” bag of pot with a kid has very serious implications. Wherever there are drugs, there are second-rate decisions and lives. Drugs are not funny or without consequences.

    First-time offenders almost certainly will be able to get into a diversion program with clean record afterwards. Juveniles get a closed record automatically.

    Cops do the kids a favor.

  48. @Priss Factor

    Any candidate to serve as a judge at any level of the justice system should be required to serve a minimum of one year (not counting police academy or FTO training) as a police officer in a city of 150,000 or more.

    Experience is a wonderful teacher.

  49. Ace 说:
    @bossel

    There’s a pleasant YouTube video of some Danish cops, I think, very cheerfully rousting a drunk in the park. Obviously two decent lads.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  50. Ace 说:
    @Chris Mallory

    Did you read that on a cereal box?

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  51. @Chris Mallory

    You are only in danger if you are doing something illegal or are being disrespectful.

    • 回复: @AndrewR
    , @Chris Mallory
  52. @Priss Factor

    Cops have killed dogs for no reason. The breed was irrelevant. BATFE is among the worst of the dirt bags that do it.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  53. As with any other group, there are people who where the uniform that have no business in it. They are the ones that pull their weapon just because “I was afraid.” I understand the world cops have to live in, but if you pull a weapon just because “I was afraid” you have no business wearing a badge. Simply being afraid is no defense.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  54. Dr. X 说:

    Fred sets up the classic Straw Man — BLM vs. The Cops — so that he can side with the cops. I ain’t buying it.

    Cops are militarized, obnoxious control-freaks and yes-men to The System. They are power-trippers who get off on being able to do things you and I will get arrested for. The state I live in is one of the most corrupt in the country — the leaders of both legislative houses were convicted of felonies last December. Cops enforce the laws of these criminals in exchange for obscene pay, benefits, and 20-and-out retirement. Being a cop in some jurisdictions is better than hitting the lottery — literally.

    One of the things that drives me nuts about conservatives is the incessant cop-worship. The government is a criminal enterprise, and cops are its enforcers. The Constitution be damned. Courts, lawyers, cops — all of it 100% sucks and it’s all designed to screw you and me and protect the cosseted members of The System. I’m hardly a liberal Social Justice Warrior — just a not-very-financially-successful white boy who realizes that one bad interaction with an asshole cop and an asshole prosecutor can empty my bank account and crush my little eggshell of a life in a heartbeat.

    I don’t like Negroes or cops — a pox on both their houses. Fuck the cops.

    • 回复: @Santoculto
    , @AndrewR
  55. 你认识警察吗? 你知道吗? 我的意思是对他们很了解,可以在下班后喝杯啤酒,或者邀请他们到你家聚会。 你真的和警察谈过吗?

    Yup. I know several and have even been served meals and drinks at houses, but so what?

    In general, they seem to be nice guys as neighbors, but total assholes otherwise. Their attitudes generally suck. But what do you expect from agents of the state which is a coercive and extractive institution no better than the mafia? Fred’s vaunted high IQ obviously isn’t enough help him discern and understand the truth about what the State is and what cops and other bureaucrats really are.

    Then there’s this. Yeah, I’m sure this jerk is a real Honey!

    California sheriff who says $276,000 pension not enough fuels push for reform…lobbies for $75,000 additional…

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/20/california-sheriff-pensions.html

    • 同意: AndrewR
  56. Santoculto 说:

    How supposed Pathologically virtuous white people can have so much attention of the (((media)))?? How a stupid nice people can be so powerful?? Why (((media))) continue to communicate throughout its structure this beautiful lies??

  57. Santoculto 说:
    @Dr. X

    Agree quasi–absolutely but analyzing the common everyday interaction between urban criminals, many them who are blacks and policemen i concluded that the second group has been demonized and in other side the black lives has been angelized while both no have perfect actuation, far to be, in USA at least policemen seems to be less corrupt in everyday actions than in third world countries like Brazil. But about your observation about the role of police force while a voluntary available force to the big sharks I agree absolutely. Seems easy to perceive it in the same way is easy to perceive higher proportion of black dysfunctionality.

  58. woodNfish 说:

    Hey Fred, I took some college classes with a local cop who wanted to become a sergeant or something and it required college credits to obtain. He liked to tell stories about how he was getting revenge on old high school coaches, ex-girlfriends, etc. who had dissed him in high school by writing them tickets. I think he is your typical cop – a thug who uses the uniform as a weapon. Outside of that core you will have some truly honest. good cops and then you will have your cops who use their power to be criminals and commit extortion, rape, assault, murder, sell drugs, especially drugs captured by the cops, protection racket, murder and more. And you have the true psychopaths.

    None of this has anything to do with race, and never has. Your focus on BLM is just an obfuscation of the real problem that cops are too willing to shoot and murder people because that is what they are taught to do. And cops murder many more whites than blacks every year.

    As for socializing with cops – no way! Cops are never off duty and cannot be trusted. You cannot have a normal relationship with a government thug, and all government is thuggery. Or as Thomas Paine said, “Society is good, government is evil.”

    • 同意: AndrewR
  59. AndrewR 说:

    Baton Rouge isn’t in New Orleans.

  60. AndrewR 说:
    @Wally

    Are you playing dumb or is it not an act?

  61. AndrewR 说:
    @Son of Dixie

    “Durr hurr how can i blame everything on muds”

    You’re just as ignorant as the SJWs who blame evetything on whites.

    • 回复: @King George III
  62. Faust 说:
    @Anonymous

    我被逮捕过两次,一次是因为没有归还电影,一次是因为没有检查烟雾探测器(都是因为通知发送到错误的地址而导致的)。当我因烟雾探测器被捕时,我被锁在我家门前,挨打,还被骂是混蛋。我很快意识到那位女警官是一名实习生,而那位男警官是想给她留下深刻印象。他们带我去了尚未开放的法院。我错误地利用了我对管理员的影响力(我和他一起上过高中)获得了入场券(戴上手铐坐在巡洋舰的后座上很不舒服)。这激怒了他。

    一位当地警察告诉我,他从越南回来后就加入了,因为“我只知道如何杀人”。他后来在与迈阿密警察的枪战中被杀。他因公受伤,带着钱到迈阿密从事毒品生意。

    有几个亲戚是警察。他们对“购买”促销持相当开放的态度。在施工过程中,我很清楚警察细节中的“盗窃行为”。如果你与他们提出异议,建筑部门和街道部门就会对你不利。过去的好时光”?纳普报告发布时我住在纽约,请用双眼仔细阅读。当我们还是小孩子的时候,我们会看到夜班警察在水库边把他们的女朋友搞砸。

    我住在一个小镇。当我去警察局更新我的手枪执照时,我注意到了一些变化。现在他们都躲在防弹玻璃后面。他们真的认为美国人会拿着枪来抓他们吗?这确实创造了一种“我们和他们”的心态。

  63. AndrewR 说:
    @Stealth

    Sandra Bland was extremely rude and antagonistic to the cop. I’m not here to play lawyer for the cop or the employees at the jail where she died but she was not a sympathetic figure.

  64. the only thing I don’t like about the current situation is that cops who break the laws aren’t punished. that is all. #BLM is at least 50% bs though. blm leaders really need to stop black on black killings before they worry about cops.

    and the looting that follows every major shooting. that just screams support the cops to everyone else.

  65. AndrewR 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    How much cop jizz have you drunk this week?

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  66. AndrewR 说:
    @Dr. X

    Thank you. There are way too many retards out there who unconditionally defend one side or the other. I dislike cops almost as much as I dislike blacks.

  67. CCZ 说:

    This will send them a message:

    带来我的新闻.com:

    Protestors demanding justice in the fatal shooting of Philando Castile shut down two liquor stores in St. Anthony on Saturday [July 30]. It was a St. Anthony police officer who shot Castile in Falcon Heights on July 6.

    Demonstrators selected to shut down these two St. Anthony stores on Saturday because they say the stores’ profits go toward the St. Anthony Police Department, reported KMSP.

    WCCO said about 70-80 protestors marched from the St. Anthony City Hall to the liquor stores.

    The Star Tribune estimates that there were about 65 demonstrators present, chanting “From Emmett Till to Phil Castile, no justice, no peace!”

    The stores did close down early, which protestors declared a victory via Facebook.

  68. @Ace

    No, but I suspect that the “Make it home at the end of shift” mantra chanted by cops was written on one.

  69. @AndrewR

    If government employees cannot handle someone being rude and antagonistic to them, then they should quit and find honest work.

  70. @Delinquent Snail

    Or if I happen to be in public and a cop decides he doesn’t like the cut of my hair, the color of my truck, or if he can’t read a house number.

    I am always disrespectful of government employees. Respect must be earned and taking government employment is a detriment to getting respect from an honorable man.

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  71. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    I can’t figure out what cops do that actually needs to be done in most places. They don’t get your stolen stuff back or catch the vandal. They don’t seem to do a very good job preventing violent encounters with the obvious sorts of people who cause problems. They issue a lot of tickets to people driving at reasonable speeds in an obvious scam. They mostly babysit dysfunctional NAMs as far as I can tell.

    Police forces are a big part of what’s bankrupting cities across America and they don’t seem to do anything that couldn’t be done by much cheaper employees or volunteers. Let the NAMs kill each other and wreck their own neighborhoods. Let the non-NAMs exercise more control over who comes into their neighborhoods. Then there’s very few cops needed. Maybe a volunteer force, like with some fire departments.

  72. DWright 说:
    @AndrewR

    Rude or not deferential enough?

    • 回复: @AndrewR
  73. @AndrewR

    Not a drop. I was taught as a kid to be respectful of authority, even if its corrupted authority. It seems to me like you are a petty criminal who is butthurt that you cant do what you want, because of these “pesky law enforcers”.
    I deal with cops regularly. I live in california (a very poor part even), and not a month goes by i dont have an interaction with law enforcement. I’ve talked my way out of more tickets then most people will receive in their entire life.
    Want to know the secret? Dont be an asshole. Be upfront and respectfull. Even if the cop is having a bad day, dont feed into it. It will save you time and money, maybe even your life.
    And before you say i dont know what im talking about, ive seen plenty of cops beat people down. Ive watch dogs get shot, people get tazed, riot police showing up cuz a student at a school stabbed the principal. Ive experienced alot of the bad first hand, and 95% of the time the perp was deserving of the “police brutality”.

    • 同意: Ace
    • 哈哈: AndrewR
  74. utu 说:

    The most unprofessional police in the developed world. Undereducated. Low IQ. Untrained. Thin skin. Overweight. When in doubt shoot first rule of engagement. But should we be surprised? They work for and with American public which is undereducated, low IQ, untrained., thin skin, overweight, that believes shoot first ask questions later is the best approach. God bless America.

    • 回复: @joef
  75. @Chris Mallory

    I am always disrespectful of government employees.

    This. And you wonder why they harass you? You sound like an asshole. Probably wear tapout shirts and drive a raised chevy plastered in monster energy drink stickers while listening to some garbage from an idiot that thinks the word nigga is ok, but nigger is bad. This mentality is why we have an issue in this country with the police.

  76. AndrewR 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    You seem like someone who has difficulty not being an asshole.

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  77. @AndrewR

    I just call them as i see them. If thats upsetting to you, you might need to sit down and reevaluate your perspective and stance.

  78. Truth 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    Want to know the secret? Dont be an asshole….Ive experienced alot of the bad first hand, and 95% of the time the perp was deserving of the “police brutality”.

    What you are saying in not necessarily untrue; anyone with half a brain knows that there are two sides to any confrontation, that police are humans with tempers, and that “a little kindness goes a long way, however, there is one simple concept, about which you seem to be in the dark: Police are not employed to assess sentencing, they are employed to keep order and make arrests. It is not that they should complete their job duties with minimum force necessary, THAT IS BY LAW WHAT THEY ARE EMPLOYED TO DO.

    Judges are paid to sentence criminals, not police, and lawmakers are paid to establish sentencing guidelines, therefore saying that a perp who is beaten by the police “got what he deserved” is a gross misunderstanding of the job title of “policeman.”

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  79. 上面有一些很好的评论,我自己的评论的性质将非常清楚地表明我在积极评价它们时想到的是哪些。
    .
    弗雷德·里德是一位非常有才华、聪明、幽默的作家,但我开始对他过时的观点失去耐心(随着他年龄的增长,现在这种观点太常见了)。
    .
    99% 的警察都给其他警察留下坏名声。
    (该统计数据可能不是 100% 准确,但已经足够接近了。)
    .
    警察的态度一直很糟糕——一直是一种“我们反对他们”或“蓝色反对其他颜色”的态度——但今天的情况比以往任何时候都糟糕得多。我是名副其实的“蓝领”。尽可能“保守”;我是一名枪支拥有者,在洛杉矶一个种族极其多元化的地区长大;我鄙视像BLM之类的共产主义阵线组织。我在个人和友好的层面上认识了许多警察,这有助于解释我今天对大多数警察的仇恨。
    .
    我的祖父是一名警察预备役警官,当我还是 14 世纪 17 年代的青少年(1970-4 岁)时,我是当地警察探索计划的高级成员。那是我第一次以一种轻松、个人的方式非常了解警察的地方。他们带我们去露营,向我介绍未成年人饮酒和色情电影。是的,他们是彻头彻尾严格遵守法律和秩序的人!他们中的许多人喝醉了,下班后 XNUMX 小时才开车。
    .
    他们今天比昨天更糟糕的原因是,今天的大多数警察都是从军队出来的,他们学到的唯一技能就是如何打破东西和杀人。然后你给这些类固醇狂暴的精神病患者一枚徽章,让他们在社会上自由自在,在那里他们可以让他们的小权力之旅在几乎没有监督的情况下进行。 “破坏事物并杀人”的心态并不完全符合“保护和服务”的座右铭。 LEO并不总是从退伍军人中自动职业化的一步。
    .
    我特此判处弗雷德·里德(Fred Reed)每天在“警察不当行为”、“美国警察国家”和威廉·格里格的“Pro Libertate”网站上阅读信息三年。然后我们会看看他是否仍然像今天一样对这些蓝衣暴徒持有同样的看法。
    .
    〜D-FensDogG
    “忠实的美国地下”

    • 同意: Jacques Sheete
    • 回复: @utu
  80. @Truth

    You are right. This isnt a judge dredd style dystopia where cops get the final say. That still doesnt change the fact that the people crying victim are not blameless. If you are a cop and you see the same person go thru your hands over and over for a multitude of reasons, you, as a person, will begin to see that person as scum. And you wouldnt be wrong in that feeling.
    Drug addled, inebriated, borderline retarded people are becoming the baseline population. We, as a society, should be cheering for a group to “clean house”.

    • 回复: @Truth
  81. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @AndrewR

    [Pick one handle and stick with it, or use Anonymous/Anon. Otherwise, your comments may get trashed.]

    Sandra Bland was extremely rude and antagonistic to the cop.

    Watch the video of that altercation. When officer jerk-off returned to Bland’s car w/ the traffic warning he goaded her into a reaction (he said something like, “you seem mad…”). And, of course, Bland reacted exactly the way officer jerk wanted her to. Then he escalated it further by insisting that she put out her cigarette. He could have simply handed her the warning and be on his way; if so, he’d still have a job and Bland would still be alive. The stop for failure to signal was merely a pretext to snoop in the car and ask questions; and Bland said she was pulling over to get out of his way.

    Remember, Bland is a NAM – our standards and expectations of her behavior are low. The officer is a well-paid, well-trained civil servant – our standards and expectations of behavior for him are justifiably high. Whether he likes it or not or whether it’s fair or not, the officer must be held to higher standards of behavior. This officer sunk to petty, juvenile behavior.

  82. anon • 免责声明 说:

    I look at that photo of all those stupid white people waving “BLM” signs and just shrug my head in disbelief. No way would blacks ever go out of their way for whites to return the favor.

    • 回复: @David In TN
  83. utu 说:
    @D-FensDogG

    喜欢你的评论。虽然没有像您那样熟悉警察,但我很确定您是对的。他们退役是一回事。由于他们缺乏培训或他们接受的培训,这种情况会被放大。请记住,所谓的培训和交战规则是由以色列或与以色列有联系的安全公司运行和设计的。在以色列那边,他们所知道的就是射杀那些下流的巴勒斯坦人。以色列超人的态度被移植到美国警察的头脑中。我们现在都是巴勒斯坦人。

    • 回复: @Dr. X
    , @SteveRogers42
  84. @Macilrae

    1. whoa, that was 10 pounds of poop in a 5 pound bag, i almost NEVER not read articles, *尤其* when i disagree with them, but i could not finish this pity-fest…
    2. um, IF you were to think to be even-handed, you could replace ‘cops’ with ‘victims’ or ‘perps’ or -you know- ‘people’ AND EVERY SINGLE WORD would be true the other way…
    although i don’t technically qualify for whatever stupid abbreviation thing you said, i am sure you would place me in that cohort…
    my point being, UNLESS we are the .00000001% of the population who was actually there at each of these incidents, actually knew the participants, we aren’t allowed to have an opinion based on whatever good/bad/indifferent media reports we have available to us ? ? ?
    no, i don’t know kops; no, -so far- i don’t know any of the victims…
    HOWEVER, if you are going to insist i can’t see with my own two eyes a POS kop pull up to a CHILD and shoot them before the car stops rocking, and try to tell me there was some kind of ‘context’ i am missing, i am calling you a lying sack of poop who will NEVER admit to ANY cops doing ANYTHING ‘bad’, period…
    IF you are going to tell me shooting that guy in the wal-mart with the pellet rifle was a righteous shooting, then you are lost and have NO moral compass to speak of…
    oh, and the OTHER guy who went around shooting pellet guns IN wal-marts to get rid of the birds…
    and the OTHER guy,
    and the OTHER gal,
    and the OTHER kid,
    and the OTHER 90 year old,
    and the OTHER baby flashbanged in the crib,
    等等,
    等等,
    等等,
    ad nauseum…
    some 660+ so far this year…
    who knows how many dogs the pigs kill…
    (12 year old skinny kids on their paper routes deal with dozens of ‘bad’ dogs EVERY day; but adrenaline-junkie, roided-up, swatted-up, armed-to-the-teeth paramilitary-thugs get ascairt of a chihuahua… cowards…)

    how many kops are killed each year ?
    oh, you don’t know…
    the least since the 1930’s you say ?
    kops about half as likely to be murdered on the job as a firefighter, is that so ?
    store clerks and cabbies murdered about 4-5-6 times the rate of kops ?
    嗯……

    you first in line to extol the bravery and service to society of minute mart clerks ?
    不行吗
    well, maybe we all should, sounds like they sacrifice their lives WAY more than kops, AND THAT IS NOT EVEN PART OF THEIR JOB ! ! !

    the worst type of citizen, period, is an authoritarian; you 25% of the population are one of the major impediments to progressive changes, i despise your weakness and fear that drives you to a Big Daddy, and drives you to destroy the new and different…

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  85. @art guerrilla

    “12 year old skinny kids on their….” lol kids dont deliver papers anymore. Tweakers and illegals do. Its funny how many disconnected elderly people are on unz…….

  86. Dr. X 说:
    @utu

    The attitude of Israeli Übermenschen gets transplanted into the heads of American cops. We are all Palestinians now.

    Try living in upstate New York sometime. It’s like the Israeli-Occupied Territories on the West Bank of the Hudson River.

  87. @Macilrae

    Ever seen a donut half eaten,the frosting gnawed off? I have…

  88. @Delinquent Snail

    I was taught as a kid to be respectful of authority, even if its corrupted authority.

    That was fine when you were a kid, but guess what?

    So “authority” is never to be questioned or held accountable? Good grief, that’s not even a real ‘Merkin attitude. Do you think G Washington and de boyz gave a hoot about King George and his “authority?”

    As Chris Mallory said, authority should be earned, and more often than not a uniform signifies a lamebrain with an attitude who deserves a laugh more than respect.

    If you choose to answer, be nice cuz I’m an “authority” too. 😉

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  89. @Anonymous

    “警察已经失去了对纳税和不纳税的公众的所有信任,他们对自己做了这件事。”

    由于与具有讽刺意味的主要是其他黑人的犯罪黑人打交道,他们不受美国黑人的尊重。 大学里的有用白痴并不尊重他们,他们相信他们的教授和乔恩·斯图尔特告诉他们的一切。

    美国几乎所有其他人都尊重并赞赏警察所做的工作。 是的,即使是那些穿着粗花呢自命不凡的教授。 警察是少数几个我没有问题的地方之一。

    • 回复: @D-FensDogG
  90. @Chris Mallory

    Who in his right mind would be a cop if required to carry firearm hike the Africans and Mexicans and savages if any background have firearms?

    Better to arm more citizens to help themselves and the cops, not disarm the cops. We have nothing like the kind of high-trust, self-restrained one would need to disarm the cops and not have disaster, and we are moving farther away from that kind of society every year.

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  91. Truth 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    Do you think a group that suffers from the same maladies should be the one to “clean house?”

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  92. helena 说:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t think Brit cops are particularly corrupt, maybe I’m wrong, but I’m sad that BLM has started in UK. You’re right about rules and regs; the London riots in 2011 started because a black family had not heard anything from the cops about their son’s shooting-by-cop – for 5 hours. Just imagine a white family marching on a police station for that reason. A lot of the problem is the result of simply not being able to work within pre-planned systems and procedures. The recent furore in Hyde Park for instance was because they hadn’t applied for a license to have a mini music festival. One can understand the desire to be spontaneous in hot weather. But one can also understand the chaos that would result if society ran on the lines of spontaneity.

  93. @Jacques Sheete

    Washington was in the brittish military. He respected king george long enough to make bank on that. They started a revolution because of the monarchy not because of the grunts on the ground. What happened then is a poor comparison for whats happening now in our country.

    Those “lamebranins” put their lives in danger several times a month to protect common people. Like you and me. Next time you see a car accident, look at who shows up first and starts helping people.

    Im all for the de-escalation of our current police state. However, as long as we have a large portion of the population that idolizes gangsters and criminals, i dont see it going anywhere anytime.

    Id rather deal with an asshole cop then an asshole mugger/rapist/murderer.

    • 回复: @Jacques Sheete
  94. @Truth

    I dont see a better option. Sometimes you need to let the spiders eat the roaches before you kill off the spiders.

    • 回复: @Truth
  95. @RadicalCenter

    Better to arm more citizens to help themselves and the cops, not disarm the cops. We have nothing like the kind of high-trust, self-restrained one would need to disarm the cops and not have disaster, and we are moving farther away from that kind of society every year

    .

    This is the truth right here. Disarming the only group of people in this country keeping any kind of order would be society suicide.
    If you disagree you are either:
    (a) a fool,
    (b) a criminal looking for an easier time,
    (c) or have been living under a rock for 6 decades.

    Think about it. What would happen if all the police just quit? Peace rallies? Or “the purge”? If you chose peace rallies you are very naive.

  96. @utu

    What are your sources for the assertion that Israeli security trains US police forces? Where and when does this training take place? Names, dates, and locations, please.

    Police “rules of engagement” are not designed by Israel. Police use-of-force policies are an outgrowth of various Supreme Court decisions, with Graham v. Connor’s “objective reasonableness” standard the overarching criterion.

  97. Truth 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    If that worked, no one would have invented pesticide.

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  98. @Delinquent Snail

    Id rather deal with an asshole cop then an asshole mugger/rapist/murderer.

    You obviously missed the point that cops are increasingly at least one of the above.

    FYI, unaccountable trigger happy punks with swagger and overstuffed with donuts do no one a favor.

    BTW, what are you trying to say about G Washington and de boyz? Did they, or did they not “respekt” the authority of King George? If so, how? (The point is that only useful idiots grant unconditional respect to some clown who claims “authority, or do you still fill your shorts as you did when you were a kid?)

    • 回复: @Delinquent Snail
  99. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Quartermaster

    So go do a few ride alongs and see how you feel then. Better yet, become a cop and “fix” the problems since you won’t be afraid ever will you? In fact refuse to carry a gun. That way you can prove how brave you are.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  100. Funny and odd, not to mention downright perverse, how Fred tries to play the victim card for the cops, the dufus agents of the State, and hates, among other things privileged white “libruls” aka PVWs.

    He apparently believes that the word, “liberal” is a very dirty word, yet what does he sound like in this superb classic, “War – Maybe We Could Go Bowling Instead?” Sounds a lot like the “libruls” he derides. Sounds pretty liberal to me as well.

    What happened, Fred, and do you even know what a true liberal is?

    Dear Fred, ‘Merka was supposedly founded on 自由派 principles and the Founders spouted a lot of really 自由派 stuff. Whether they actually believed it is another story, but still, it’s undeniable that 自由主义 was part of the genesis of the “republic.” The words, “自由“和”自由派” share a common root which means freedom. Get it? So what do you have against the concept except that a police state would probably be just peachy as far as you’re concerned?

    In case you still don’t get it, those you’re labeling as liberals are really quite the opposite and most of those pathetic clowns would, like you, be quite snug and smug in some sort of police state. Please don’t continue the assault on a perfectly fine word by propagating the perversion of its true meaning.

  101. joef 说:
    @WorkingClass

    Police officers are not all the same. But too many of them are criminals. This of course because they are above the law. I’m old enough to remember when cops were mostly the good guys. If things were bad they got better when the cops got there. Not any more.

    It goes further than the police, its the collapse of the quality of our current generations. Much of this is because we have the vacuous millennials entering police work, who are full of an attitude of entitlement, and they lack common sense. On top of that is the police & political hierarchy removing discretion from the line officers decisions. This was mainly done for politically correct cases such as domestic violence, and revenue generating activities, such as traffic tickets.

    I remember reading about how Mayor Bloomberg of NYC used the corporate model of removing older ‘expensive’ workers to make room for younger workers. The removal of hardened veterans who already developed discipline & prudence as a guide for the younger generation of cops (who already came from the most spoiled generation that America produced, who were the progeny of the baby boomer flower child generation) is a recipe for disaster.
    The millennial generation are full of arrogance (from all that self esteem, without accomplishment, training they get for education these days) which to them replaces real life experience.

    Unfortunately, I do not see this getting any better because, like every other occupation, you can only recruit new workers from what is available from society at large. And most of the pool are just further people from a trash generation. So whoever you get who is actually good from this millennial generation is completely limited.

  102. joef 说:
    @utu

    But should we be surprised? They work for and with American public which is undereducated, low IQ, untrained., thin skin, overweight, that believes shoot first ask questions later is the best approach. God bless America.

    You have touched upon something that reflects on the reality of our situation. Overall the police are nothing more than a reflection of what society is at large, and they come from the available pool of society itself (with exception to some aggressive egocentrics who are always attracted to positions of authority, which is whatever occupation that can gain them money and power over other people). I believe you are starting to gain some discretion; now all you have to do is to make some real world distinctions (LOL).

  103. @Grandpa Jack

    >>... 几乎所有美国人都尊重并赞赏警察所做的工作。
    .
    你住的“鸵鸟堡”在哪里?
    .
    在我认识的几十个人中,他们分散在美国各地——每个人都是正派、聪明、守法的人,值得与之保持友谊/交往——我只能说出两个或三个不信任并强烈反对的人。总体来说不喜欢警察。
    .
    “鸵鸟堡”的天气怎么样?
    .
    〜D-FensDogG
    “忠实的美国地下”

  104. @Truth

    Pesticides were invented to protect crops from pests. Not deal with infestations. To deal with insect infestations, its advised to get another insect that eats the pest. Pesticides are just poison that pollutes everything around it.

  105. @Jacques Sheete

    Jeeze jock, did you get beaten by a cop or something? They arent all bad and the fact that you so vehemently want them removed from power raises questions about you. Like why? Do you even think about the power vacuum that would appear? The MILLIONS of americans that would be killed from the riots, fires, and straight up murders? Only criminals want the police disarmed or disbanded.

    About washington and the revolution. They did start a revolution. They did “disrespect” the “authority” of the british monarchy. But thats looking at it in the simplest way. But hey, not every one can see the big picture. (the point is, we have a governing body for a reason. Humans are petty, vain animals that need to be controlled. Look at africa and the middle east and tell me how great they are with their lax governments. Oh wait, you cant. Seeing as how they dont produce anything substantial except more people.)

  106. @pyrrhus

    …raised before the gated community came into existence…

    那么,什么 it like in Eden before the fall?

  107. @anon

    Yep, the love “those stupid white people waving ‘BLM’ signs” have for blacks is not returned one iota. Not one iota.

  108. 我喜欢弗雷德的文章,但这完全是废话。我在一个相对乡村的小镇长大,那里黑人很少,警察里的小希特勒人数也多得不成比例。他们的主要功能似乎是破坏年轻人举办的每一个聚会。我并没有夸张:每次年轻人举办聚会时,警察都会出现将其驱散。一名警察拦住了我儿子,因为他的一个尾灯熄灭了。很容易错过。这个胆怯的小猫站在远离汽车的地方,准备拔枪,因为显然,一个瘦小的白人小孩是一个潜在的威胁。不,这个小镇没有不守规矩的公民的问题。我有很多关于这些小丑的例子,尽管我也有相反的故事:警察中有几个喜欢镇上年轻人的人。他们与我的儿子和他们的朋友成为了朋友,他们是真正正派的人,我很高兴有他们穿着制服。其中一位告诉我,他在工作近 20 年后将离开警队,因为他无法再接受老板的虐待指令。

    还有一个故事:有一天,我从一条高速公路并入另一条高速公路。这是一种合并,将您从一条高速公路带到您要进入的高速公路的左侧车道。我以超过限速约 5 英里/小时的速度行驶,一辆汽车以很高的速度撞到了我的屁股上。早在 90 年代,毒贩的汽车就显得格外引人注目,这就是其中之一。我有两个选择:尝试慢慢地迫使自己在右车道的车辆之间行驶,进一步激怒我后面的暴徒,或者加速直到我超过右边的人并移开。后者是最安全的举动,所以我就这么做了。事实证明,我身后的暴徒是一名警察,开着一辆州警察从毒贩那里没收的汽车。他给了我一张超速罚单。从那时起,我对这些虚伪的渣男的尊重为零,因为他们超速行驶、不打信号灯转弯、让好莱坞停下来,同时还给我们同样的门票。他们通常都是好战的白痴,愚蠢到不会不把目标放在自己身上。

  109. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Ah, Fred Fred Fred.

    I generally think you & what you write is largely the bees’ knees, but you’ve done lost me here. Instead of a serious column, with actual thoughtful insight, you chose to knock out a quick-n-dirty apologia for the coppers. And then cloak the barnyard odor with high-school level Psych 101. SO folks don’t like out of control cops because said folks are just a little snobbish? Cliqueish? A-Skeert & intimidated by the cops’ rampant “masculinity”? Said folks are also sort of on the dumb side, because, as you pontificate, they just can’t wrap their small, narrow minds around The Truth. Which, per Fred, is, “There are at least two explanations, neither of which you are likely to understand, for your detestation of cops”.

    真。

    What a steaming load of condescending horseshiite.

    Speaking just for myself here, HERE are “at least 3 explanations, [none] of which you are likely to acknowledge, for my detestation of cops.

    1) per the Washington Post, it seems that USA cops kill roughly 25 dogs per day in the course of their duties. 25 dogs. Each and every day. How Brave of them. Before the cop-jock-sniffers all mewl about “drug dealer pit bullz!!”, kindly A) google the word “puppycide” and note it brings up tens of thousands of results, and B) how come UPS and Fedex guys manage to “just make it home to their families that night” without finding it necessary to kill 10,000 dogs a year? How do they do that? C) Heck, forget the dogs. Why do cops here in the Land of the Free kill 1000+ PEOPLE (more or less) every year, when German cops manage to go DECADES without killing even just 1 person? How’s that happen? Hmmm?
    2) as has been demonstrated ad nauseum year after year, highly-trained, *非常* highly-paid cops on duty all seem to have less fire discipline (and accuracy) than any 18-year-old buck private fresh outta boot camp in Anbar province. Story after story after story of cops killing old ladies and firebombing babies while serving a chickenshiite 2-bit weed warrant. It’s a national disgrace, and blind, wild, gutless-under-fire panic actions (“Cleveland Cops unload 137 rounds into a stopped car” “Brave Selfless Mad Dog Cop fired 49 of those shots, including dumping a 15-round mag into the vehicle while standing on the hood”) like that would get that Buck Private a DD or a prison stretch forthwith.
    3) which brings us to item #3. The Cop Gang Ethos. Who do cops hate more than gang-bangers? Or Killaz? Or Bad People? Yes, that’s right: all cops hate **any fellow cop who would dare snitch on a dirty cop, the Law and public safety be damned** mostest of all. Just like any Crip/Blood/Disciple/etc does. Huh. THAT doesn’t sound very Protect-and-Servey, does it….

    See you coppers at the Revolution, boys. If you don’t do what New Orleans’ Finest did during Katrina, when their city needed them most (I.E., run away like little girls)…I doubt you’ll enjoy it much.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @SteveRogers42
  110. utu 说:
    @Anonymous

    You are making great points:

    (*) how come UPS and Fedex guys manage to “just make it home to their families that night” without finding it necessary to kill 10,000 dogs a year? How do they do that? C) Heck, forget the dogs. Why do cops here in the Land of the Free kill 1000+ PEOPLE (more or less) every year, when German cops manage to go DECADES without killing even just 1 person?

    (**) Story after story after story of cops killing old ladies and firebombing babies while serving a chickenshiite 2-bit weed warrant. It’s a national disgrace, and blind, wild, gutless-under-fire panic actions (“Cleveland Cops unload 137 rounds into a stopped car” “Brave Selfless Mad Dog Cop fired 49 of those shots, including dumping a 15-round mag into the vehicle while standing on the hood”)

    But many Americans (mostly white) accept it and consider it being normal and necessary.

  111. @Anonymous

    1. B) UPS and FedEx aren’t serving warrants in crack houses, chasing fleeing felons through alleys, or even responding to “dangerous dog” calls. They are placing packages on doorsteps, ringing the bell, and leaving. Apples and oranges.

    1. C) German cops are dealing with — wait for it — Germans. A culture rather well-known for its respect for authority and compliance with rules. There are no MLK Blvds. in Deutschland. Notice these same German cops at present being completely unable to deal with the antics of the Islamic rapefugees, who are somewhat less enamored with the virtues of Ordnung.

    2. Most police are not “highly trained” with their service weapon, or indeed with any physical use-of-force tool. They are given a few hours of range time 4 times a year, with the bulk of that time devoted to state-mandated “qualification” shoots on paper targets, at known distances, in broad daylight. Any USMC private is far more proficient with his rifle than most urban police are with their pistol — in addition to being far more physically-fit and better conditioned mentally for combative situations. To police administrators, this is a feature, not a bug.

    3. “All cops” with the rank of Lt., Captain, or Chief are absolutely dis-interested in covering up for a street cop’s indiscretions. Their continued progress up the greasy pole depends upon their willingness to sacrifice those beneath them. The “Blue Code” makes for exciting movies, but in real life the command staff is eager to uncover any malfeasance – great or small – in order to demonstrate to promotional boards that they are ready, willing, and able to f@(k their buddy.

    Katrina — N.O.P.D. is possibly the most corrupt and backwards police department in the U.S. Check out some photos of their rank-and-file and their command staff. Something may occur to you.

    • 回复: @utu
  112. @Quartermaster

    Please don’t conflate paramilitary Interior Ministry units with municipal police or county deputies.

  113. @Ace

    And that was probably the hottest call of their week on the mean streets of Aalborg. Were they “rousting”, by any chance — a Dane? Or was it a 300-pound slab of ghetto attitude high on PCP?

    • 回复: @Ace
  114. utu 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    You are another apologist of American police? You are wrong on all 3 points.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  115. utu 说:

    I have never seen police shooting video with the shooting that was justified. If the cops were British, German or Swedish the outcomes would not be lethal. The suspect would be arrested and nobody would be hurt. American police knows only one rule of engagement which is shoot and ask questions later. They could be retrained, even thought they are challenged in the IQ department, if there was a will but apparently to most Americans, the current police behavior is OK. It is a pity.

    • 回复: @joef
  116. joef 说:
    @utu

    Thats because the media and youtube only show the most egregious cases ( and I’m sure your the type who sees only what fits your own ideology).
    You seem incapable of making any distinctions, on a case by case basis. Therefore an objective opinion by you cannot be trusted.
    You only make generalized statements, and ad hominem attacks that you mistaken for proper reasoning. Its like a typical academic: ALL BOOK SMARTS & NO STREET SMARTS!! Your statements show a lack of real life experience – – its easy to pontificate from afar.

    In regards to a buck private as compared to ghetto cops using their firearms:
    Two different functions, and since most cops did both occupations (most have military experience, & many were reservist who went to Iraq and Afghanistan), they otherwise would not need to be acclimated to their new occupation if that was not true:
    One operates alone with a handgun (and is mostly outgunned). Violence encountered is up close and personal.
    The other is working with a team with a on site command structure, with plenty of support, carrying a big bore rifle, and mostly outgunning the enemy with better equipment.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @SteveRogers42
  117. utu 说:

    UK guy with knife. Would be dead in the US. Note that UK police withdraws when necessary. American police never do. They shoot.

  118. utu 说:
    @joef

    You are a shill for police. If you are a policeman I can understand. If you are not, than it means you are an idiot.

    • 回复: @joef
  119. joef 说:
    @utu

    I feel sorry for you, you are so trapped by your own idealogical rants that you cannot confront reality. The brits did good, but that sort of tactics also takes place in the U.S. You intentionally ignore everything that does not fit your own world view.

    I am not saying that you do not have some valid criticisms, you do; you just lack balance. And thats a shame because you do strike me as an intelligent man.

    But have you ever been confronted by a person with a knife (I have!!). Did you ever see someone stabbed in real life, or at least know someone who has been stabbed (again I knew multiple victims). Do you know anyone who was killed by a knife (I do!) A knife does not need reloading and can cause a lot of trauma. Some local mobsters I knew of, from the City I used to live, preferred them (mostly to beet the gun charge, but they still did damage with them). Additionally a charging man with a knife can close the distance of 30 feet in one second.

    Policing can use reforming, not throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and not making them all collectively guilty, for the actions of other cops they do not even know. Collective guilt is a tool that communist used against their political enemies. Are you not better than that?

    • 回复: @utu
  120. utu 说:

    US police rule of engagement 1: shoot man on the ground who is being tasered

    US police rule of engagement 2: shoot man who is walking away
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQTEjW3qxuY

    US police rule of engagement 3: shoot man on the ground who has been already shot
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxErjH-MYQo

    US police rule of engagement 4: shoot man on the ground who is in handcuffs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4agZGkkmpg

    • 回复: @Ace
  121. Ace 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    Definitely a Dane. Older white guy and not belligerent.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  122. utu 说:
    @joef

    Don’t waist your time selling your police propaganda talking points.

  123. Ace 说:
    @utu

    That female officer in the first video is hysterical and does not belong in a uniform.

  124. utu 说:

    “That female officer in the first video is hysterical and does not belong in a uniform.” – that is some mitigating circumstance at least. Officers on the other videos are just the cold blooded killers who have no mitigating circumstances.

  125. joef 说:

    For your information, I am not a shill for anything: My admitted bias is paleo conservatism ,with some preference for Reagan Democrats (at least I admit that I have biases).
    I recognize that any group can have systemic problems, however I also recognize that each individual is responsible for his own actions and not the entire group (unless he is enabling it while not under duress to do so). So if not believing in the concept of collective guilt makes me a shill in your worldview, then I guess I am guilty.
    I really do not enjoy criticizing your ideas. Somehow I do believe you mean well; just misguided.

    There are no universal rules of engagement for the police in this nation. It is not one giant organization like the military, under unified rule/control. They are separated by 50 states with their own laws regarding arrest, use of force, and mandated police academy training. Then there is not even universal agreement within the states themselves, with each dept having their own policy and procedures. Out of 400,000 cops in this nation, and millions of community interactions, it does not take a genius to find the bad ones (which are the ones you obsess over).

    Do you equally obsess about the many many more victims of violent crime that take place in this country? Just because violent crime never touched you in your sheltered life does not mean it does not touch others (it sounds to me that you are completely unconcerned about this). But I guess something you prefer not to believe, does not exist.

    I do know that there are aggressive egocentric cops in existence because I have had negative experiences with them – – I just do not choose to hold every other cop accountable for them (they probably hate working with him). A line employee and or his supervisor do not have authority to hire and fire within any organization that I know of. That responsibility remains in the authority of management. Thus how can one cop be held accountable for another cop who is an aggressive egocentric, who he had no say in his hiring, nor any say in his continued employment?

    Your resentment seems to cloud your ability to make any discernments.
    Learning how to make distinctions is a very valuable life skill.
    What anarcho capitalist do not understand is that history shows that violent gangs and warlords will enter the vacuum and obtain control of an area (and sometimes a nation) when left unchallenged; and all the silly utopian ideology will not change that. Eventual reality always will impose itself against ideology.
    祝你好运。

  126. utu 说:

    US police rule of engagement 5: shoot mentally ill man with a screw driver

    US police rule of engagement 6: shoot man who took his hat off

    US police rule of engagement 7: execute huncuffed man

    US police rule of engagement 8: shooting man 8 times in the back
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCh8HhZ3Bww

  127. utu 说:

    法院批准警察高智商
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    “Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

    Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.”

    Obviously “the theory” that they give as the reason is not the true reason why they do not hire smarter people.

  128. @utu

    Hardly an apologist. Definitely a subject-matter expert.

    • 回复: @utu
  129. @utu

    The poor little Bobbies HAVE to “withdraw when necessary”. They have no guns. Sure, if the guy is a stumblebum and falls down and arrests himself, all is well. If this guy was a determined attacker, they’d be having a big maudlin police funeral that week.

  130. @joef

    Good distinction vis-a-vis the functions of military vs. police.

    However, on the Left Coast, most police are NOT military veterans. Unspoken quotas are established in order to prevent a disproportionate hiring of vets, because the politicians that run the show don’t want aggressive officers who are proficient with their weapons. They want Officer Friendly types who will throw themselves enthusiastically into “Community Policing.” SJW types both within and without the PD’s control who gets how far in the hiring process, and not only are they uncomfortable with alpha males, but they definitely want to hire recruits who will “look more like America”.

    Also, most military people were not front-line trigger-pullers. A department may hire discharged vets who worked in a support services capacity and have no more combative skills or experience than their counterparts in the civilian world.

    • 回复: @utu
  131. utu 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    You are a cop too since you know so much about hiring policies. So, what is your IQ?

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  132. utu 说:

    Educated cops and low IQ American cops

    “The Netherlands, Norway and Finland, for example, require police to attend a national academy – a college for cops – for three years. In Norway, over 5,000 applicants recently competed for the 700 annual spots.

    Three years affords police ample time to learn to better understand, communicate with and calm distraught individuals. By contrast, in 2006, US police academies provided an average of 19 weeks of classroom instruction.

    Under such constraints, the average recruit in the US spends almost 20 times as many hours of training in using force than in conflict de-escalation. Most states require fewer than eight hours of crisis intervention training.

    Desperate and potentially dangerous people in Europe are, therefore, more likely than their American counterparts to encounter well-educated and restrained police officers.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/american-cops-lethal_us_565cde59e4b079b2818b8870

  133. utu 说:

    Is police job high risk?

    自杀

    “In five years, 2008 to 2012, only one policeman was killed by a firearm in the line of duty in New York City. Police officers are many times more likely to commit suicide than to be killed by a criminal; nine NYC policemen attempted to take their own lives in 2012, alone. Eight succeeded. In 2013, eight NYPD officers attempted suicide, while six succeeded. If police want to protect themselves, a wise move might be to invest in psychiatric counseling, rather than increased firepower.”

    Ten deadliest jobs and police is not among them

    1. 伐木工人:128.8
    2、渔民及相关捕捞工人:117人
    3.飞机驾驶员和飞行工程师:53.4
    4. 屋顶工:40.5
    5、结构钢铁工人:37人
    6. 垃圾和可回收材料收集器:27.1
    7、电力线路安装维修人员:23人
    8. 司机/销售人员和卡车司机:22.1
    9. 农民、牧场主和其他农业管理者:21.3
    10、建筑工人:17.4

    Only 76 cops died in the line of duty in 2013

    Of the 76 cops who died in the line of duty in 2013, 18 of them were from gunfire. The rest were traffic fatalities or slips and falls.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blake-fleetwood/how-dangerous-is-police-w_b_6373798.html

    Officer police are not killed at higher rate than the national murder rate.

  134. rod1963 说:
    @Delinquent Snail

    I know what you’re talking about and mostly agree.

    However I’m quite aware that the police have no qualms about harassing poorer people because they know they don’t have the $$$ to hire a good lawyer and sue the SOB’s. I drive a old Buick and get tailgated by cops constantly, they think it’s funny harassing a disabled middle-aged white guy.

    Scumbags.

    I remember a case in Fullerton,CA where police beat to death a homeless man who weighed a 135lbs. 5 of them gang piled the little guy and basically crushed his head and chest, he died in the hospital. BTW the victim was white.

    Initially the cops celebrated at the station and the watch commander helped white wash the reports and cover up the murder. Later after much public outcry the DA charged and convicted two cops for murder. It should have included the watch commander and the senior officer in charge at the time as well who let things get out of hand.

    Take the Orlando terrorist incident. It’s well known the cops had a shootout with the Muzzie in the night club and the cops admit they shot club goers, yet no charges have ever been filed against those officers for shooting bystander’s.

    Or go back to the Dorner case in Los Angeles. After his initial rampage the police staked out a house of a retired police Lt. Early in the morning a paper delivery truck driven a little Mexican lady and her helper was riddled by the cops, one lady got a bullet near the spine. Police excuse? They said the 5’2″ Mexican lady looked like a 6’4″ black man. Initially the LAPD blamed them and refused to compensate them. Then the LAPD promised to get them a used truck and they told the LAPD to go f***off and promptly sued the LAPD to get decent compensation. Also the LAPD put numerous bullet holes in the nearby homes as well which the LAPD refused to even apologize for.

    The point in all this is the lack of accountability and responsibility. People see this and don’t like it. We can’t shoot up a neighborhood or someones car with them in it and not do hard time. Cops can and do with impunity.

  135. @utu

    Qualifies me for Mensa. Comfortably.

    Not only do I know a lot about hiring procedures, but I’m conversant with many other aspects of objective reality, as well. How’s your hunt for the invisible Israeli ninjas coming? You know, the ones that haunt American police academies turning recruits into hitmen?

  136. utu 说:

    “conversant with many other aspects of objective reality” – where did you get this phrase from? In your local Mensa chapter in Hick Town, Arkansas? Yup, low IQ cop.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  137. utu 说:

    “In a seemingly ever shrinking world, which is growing more and more connected through the Internet, information sharing has become important to everyone, and to every profession. The law enforcement profession is no exception. As our world grows more interconnected, and as criminal and terrorist threats become more global in scope, the need to learn from others’ experiences in order to enhance and improve upon our own practices also increases. The staff at the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) are incredibly aware of this, and through their Law Enforcement Exchange Program (LEEP) they aim to connect law enforcement professionals in the United States with their counterparts in Israel, in order to learn how to better protect the U.S. communities from terrorist attacks.”
    http://cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/08-2013/counter_terrorism_through_leep.asp

    “At least 300 high-ranking U.S. sheriffs and police from all over the country, as well as FBI and US Customs and Border Protection agents, have traveled to Israel to learn first-hand the most efficient means of subduing populations. The purported reason is counterterrorism, but protests and crowd control methods are commonly discussed.
    Police are not learning from the Israeli criminal law sector that deals with Jewish residents. U.S. police are learning from Israel’s military justice system, which controls Palestinians through paramilitary and counterinsurgency tactics. Residents of Gaza and the West Bank live in what is essentially a giant prison camp, where oppression and brutality from the IDF is a way of life. The use of excessive or deadly force for crowd control is rarely questioned.”
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/u-s-police-routinely-travel-israel-learn-methods-brutality-repression/

  138. I used to work with cops, went paintball shooting, drinking, and skiiing with them, back in the 1980s and 90s. I have to say, they seem to have changed since then.

    There have always been cops who liked being bullies, but it used to be that you could at least talk to most of them. Today, they’re aggressive and arrogant, and they’re trained to view any disagreement with them as a threat. The training is a big part of the problem: cops are trained to see you and me, and any other civilian, as the enemy.

    And here’s the thing. How many times are we told that the safety of the police officer is top priority? How many times do we read about some poor sap who got shot for making the cop feel “threatened for his safety,” and turns out to be unarmed and not a threat at all? How about MY safety? If I’m paying their salaries, my safety and that of my fellow citizens should come first, THEN that of the cops! Otherwise, they should get other jobs.

    When you’re stopped by a cop, be cheerful and completely submissive, and follow all his orders. Don’t look sideways at him, don’t disagree with him. If you do, there’s a good chance he will take offence. And if he does, you’re in trouble, because he can do almost anything to you, and claim you “resisted.” He’s almost certain to get off scot free, and you may be facing a jail term, if you’re still breathing.

    Does that sound like we live in a free society?

    • 同意: anarchyst
    • 回复: @utu
  139. @utu

    You are a strange and hostile little “man”, and you obviously have a large double-bladed axe to grind. I don’t know the reason for your maladjustment, but I suggest you ask your shrink for some of Hillary’s meds. They seem to keep her on a somewhat even keel…most of the time.

    Good luck, and watch out for those Israelis! Ooooh, look! there’s one now!

    • 回复: @joef
  140. utu 说:
    @Bizarro World Observer

    Great comment. My feelings exactly. It won’t change as long as American public will tolerate it. Is American public uninformed or just has very low expectation. It’s disgusting.

  141. utu 说:

    US police rule of engagement 9: Shoot at the car and chase the driver on foot and shoot him in the back

    Super professionalism of American cops!

  142. joef 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    You are a strange and hostile little “man”, and you obviously have a large double-bladed axe to grind. I don’t know the reason for your maladjustment, but I suggest you ask your shrink for some of Hillary’s meds. They seem to keep her on a somewhat even keel…most of the time.

    I couldn’t agree with you more. Apparently Utu believes he is omniscient because he absolutely knows all the IQs of all police officers in existence. Unfortunately he appears to be very unidimensional who spends all his time trolling around for bad conduct by cops. If he was just a guy who hates the abuse of authority I could understand him; but it seems his irrational resentments go way beyond that. His lack of objectivity is profound, and he seems unable to control his negative emotions (maybe he should read the old Roman Stoics to calm himself down).
    After a while all this resentful troll talk gets very boring.

  143. Thanks, joef.

    It strikes me that some of these anti-authority libertarians should be careful what they wish for, because they just might get it: If we fall for the media-driven demonization of local cops, the inevitable alternative will not be Mayberry, but an increasing federalization of local police. Under Holder/Lynch, the DOJ has established “consent decrees” that place municipal PD’s directly under the federal thumb, and I could see this trend growing exponentially if there is a so-called groundswell of public opinion that “cops are out of control” and “something needs to be done”. Already, marked SUV’s from DHS patrol Seattle streets, rousting drunks in tandem with Seattle PD., and that certainly seems like a part of Obama’s 2008 vision to have ” a civilian national security force” to “meet the national security goals that we’ve set”.

    If you resent your local police, you’re REALLY gonna hate the FedGov’s Interior Ministry troops, if and when they ever get them fully in place.

    • 回复: @joef
  144. joef 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    The nationalization of local police departments, in direct violation of the concept of federalism, is my fear as well. The worst part of it is that lying to a Federal Official is a Federal crime. This makes stating an error of recollection a potential Federal criminal charge for an overzealous Federal Prosecutor. My prediction, if federalized police actually happens, is that it will be mostly about civil forfeitures against the productive class rather than actual law enforcement against violent criminals (which is falling out of favor due to political correctness).

    At one time I considered myself a paleo libertarian, but with the emergence of anarcho capitalism, I grew away from it. For some reason these Rothbard followers believe that 10,000 years of collective human wisdom (which includes the founding fathers) on how best to formulate a civilization could be superseded by a crank idea. A crank idea that is based on utopianism, and like socialism, never worked on a mass scale in human history.
    They seem to be a little detached from reality, believing that clever rhetoric supersedes actual reality. The real result of anarcho capitalism is chaos by mob rule. It definitely would not work with our current narcissistic culture, and especially anarchos who strike me as a bunch of egoist. If people do not play fair with a government, what makes them believe that people will play fair without one?

    Their mindset is very similar to Leftist. I believe that this convergence was a unforeseen consequence to the Iraq war. At that time the Libertarians, Paleo conservatives, and liberals all had their own criticisms of the war. However it seemed that the Libertarians wanted to cozy up to the Leftist, and mix in the same cocktail parties. As a result they now pander & repeat the leftwing (wing nut) talking points.

    Although I am a believer in limited government, you do need some form of government to protect property rights, enforce contracts, and provided services so society can conduct efficient trade & commerce. Without a rule of law there can be no civilization, and things degenerate rather quickly to a situation of all against all, with everyone popping off at their favorite scapegoats (similar to what utu does).

    On top of that the anarcho crowd seem to be uncaring of their fellow citizen:
    – – They ignore real crime victims through their obsessive police bashing;
    – – They ignore that open borders has caused employment chaos through cheap labor, and also allows criminal gangs/terrorism to infiltrate into nations;
    – – They push for free trade not minding the toll of unemployment, and loss of manufacturing. They claim that comparative advantage will balance it all out, but our continued trade deficits say a different story. The biggest benefactor are multinationals, with some claiming that they do not consider themselves American companies anymore (hows that for loyalty!)

    I wish the anarchos, & pseudo freedom fighter types, would stop with their immature rantings and let the adults handle it.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  145. utu 说:

    训练有素的联邦警察将取代地方警察部门中训练有素且腐败的雅虎和牛仔,这将是朝着正确方向迈出的一步,除非美国联邦机构的总体态度和交战规则更类似于敌对地区的占领军和外国领土比真正的警察部队。我想到了韦科和红宝石岭。

    I believe that the yahoos and cowboys can be properly retrained. There would be lots of bad apples that would need to be get rid off but the overall police force can be salvaged, however a major change in philosophy and values would have to occur. I am not sure that this is possible at the current level of maturity of American society. Some social engineering will have to be applied. After all Americans can learn and can be induced towards more civilized behaviors.The habit of spitting in public places was practically eliminated in the 1st half of the 20 century. Perhaps shooting at moving cars, at people running away, at people laying on the ground can also be eliminated with some inducement. In Pacific War theater American soldiers had a habit of killing POW’s or rather not taking POW’s at all. They were offered a treat of ice cream or a day off for a live Japanese soldier. And the number of POW’s began to increase. Perhaps the yahoos and cowboys from police department could also incentivized with an ice cream to bring people alive. If not ice cream then whatever works with these monkeys. But the monkeys must stop killing human beings.

    • 回复: @D-FensDogG
  146. @joef

    You seem to have given the matter a great deal of thought. The only thing I could add would be that the era of “chaos by mob rule” might be comparatively short-lived, as the toughest and trickiest of the wildlings coalesce under gang leaders, who become warlords, who become Generalissimos. Not an original idea, I know, but I think it bears repeating.

    • 回复: @joef
  147. joef 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    I do not know how the future will exactly happen. Its like predicting the next financial bubble; you know, by reviewing the data, that the conditions exist for a financial downturn, however its almost impossible to predict when, the exact intensity, or exactly what other areas of society will be effected. However if you divorce yourself from your emotions, and recognize the way things really are, instead of what you wish them to be (thats good advice for you utu), then you have a better chance of making an accurate analysis. If trend lines are heading in a certain direction, and they are not diverted, then they will eventually arrive at a certain economic/social destination.

    Some of the bad elements that are converging:
    – – As a nation we are beyond not agreeing on solutions to problems; we are at the point that we no longer agree what the problems are; Instead we, as a country, scapegoat each other (such targets as the 1%, police, jews, or blame whitey, etc)
    – – We are in a world wide economic decline, mostly involving the problem of debt.
    – – China is not excluded with their manufacturing overproduction bubble, real estate bubble (empty cities), and unserviceable borrowing, by local town & village enterprises, from shadow banking institutions.
    – – We have real problem with racial balkanization that the leftist are irresponsibly promoting (as Lincoln said: “A house divided cannot stand”).

    The above conditions are not conducive for a healthy state. The result from the above may have the following potential outcomes:
    – – Austerity, especially with our underfunded public & private pension funds;
    – – Bank holidays, and haircuts;
    – – Civil unrest (including rioting, looting, and arson);
    – – Shortages/disruptions in staples (may lead to rationing by the govt);
    – – State bond defaults;
    – – Market volatility (already starting);
    – – Cities returning to semi feral status like they were in the 1970’s, and the way Detroit & Camden NJ are today (Feral cities is a concept by a U.S. Naval War College professor. Basically it describes a failed state like situation on the local municipal level involving overseas cities);
    – – The companion to this is very high urban crime;
    – – The cutting of services such as postal, sanitation, corrections, police, firefighters, road repair and military base closures.
    – – In the private sector retail stores, banks and hospital closures (which you are already seeing in the Boswash area cities);
    – – With the worldwide slowdown in commodities you can see deflation, which although good for the consumer, is bad for industry when sale prices potentially fall below production costs (thus causing company failures);
    – – The followup is potential hyperinflation where our fiat currency becomes devalued to near worthless levels.
    – – Very high unemployment;
    – – Depending on the severity, the possible future devolution of the States is not impossible, with some areas doing better than others (some may even resemble failed states and thats where gangs traditionally fill in the void, as well as other non state actors);

    Will any of this or all of this happen? Who knows, but the potential is there. They have happened in the past, and they have happened in other parts of the world. I believe we are not as unique & insulated as we fool ourselves into believing. History shows that prosperity was not the normal human condition. The normal human condition throughout history was hardship and struggle. We are not generally accustomed to adversity, thus I can see any of this leading to a massive amount of social disruption.

    In summation: economic decline plus racial balkanization is a very bad formula for national stability.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  148. @utu

    UTU,你当然知道这一点,甚至不需要我说,但我还是要说:你在这里彻底粉碎了你的对手 SteveRogers42 和 Joef——他们都是 LEO 的辩护者。 (可能是警察本身或以某种方式与低地轨道有关或有关联。)
    .
    无论如何,你很好地提供了证据/例子来支持你的论点。希望越来越多的人定期访问我之前提到的网站(“警察不当行为”、“美国警察国家”和威廉·格里格的“支持自由”),以免被宣传人物愚弄,比如你在这里粉碎的那些人。
    .
    如果我是美国仁慈的独裁者,我会立即制定一条规则,即任何前军事人员都不得担任任何低地轨道工作。正如我之前所说,“破坏事物并杀人”的心态与“保护和服务”广大民众的座右铭不相容。我坚信,今天警察面临的最大问题源于这样一个事实:他们中的绝大多数都有军事背景(其中许多人对“机器人”感到愤怒)。
    .
    〜D-FensDogG
    “忠实的美国地下”

    • 回复: @joef
    , @SteveRogers42
    , @utu
  149. joef 说:
    @D-FensDogG

    He is detached from reality, and would probably make a great crime victim so I wouldn’t recommend him leaving his bubble fantasy world. He never answers any questions, he just repeats his talking points. I guess you do not understand the concept of statistical outliers, which always exist.
    我不会像你们一样边走边编造故事,我也不会让你们愚蠢的自由战士幻想取代半个多世纪生活经历的现实。你们这些家伙受到庇护,显然没有街头智慧。我曾在触手可及的范围内处理过个人层面上的真实暴力(不是在 100 码外,也不是在乡下麦克多霍业余学校里打架);这不是校园打架,它比校园打架严重得多;我认识我的邻居,有人被杀、致残,或者住院(被刺伤和枪杀),因为他们的袭击者真的想伤害你,然后继续玩下去。如果你不能理解这一点,那很好,但不要指望生活在现实世界中的人们会同意你幼稚的伪自由战士的幻想。我知道你在发表言论时更喜欢用傲慢而不是真正的知识/经验,但也许像你这样的人是时候长大了。

    • 回复: @D-FensDogG
  150. @joef

    首先,我的评论不是针对你的,但你与狮子座相关的自我无法抗拒地回应了 200 个关于我的假设。
    .
    >>...我猜你不理解统计异常值的概念,它总是存在的。
    .
    好吧,你让我到了那里。显然你是一个比我拥有更多智力的人,因为我从来没有想到过这一点。 “统计异常值”……哦,太棒了!
    .
    我什至不知道什么是“自由战士幻想”,但如果你读过我的第一篇文章,你就会知道我的观点是基于大量的第一手经验。我也有半个多世纪的生活经历。在洛杉矶的乡下小镇出生和长大,只有我在种族多元化的低经济地区生活时获得的街头智慧。我已经记不清有多少和我一起长大的人现在因毒品和犯罪而死亡。 (我最好的朋友在 1989 年被偷车贼杀害了。)
    .
    我持有社会正义战士的所有观点,他是一位严格的立宪主义者、耶稣基督研究圣经的追随者,拥有大约 20 年的安全经验。
    .
    这只是向你们展示你们与普通人对警察的看法是多么脱节。是的,伙计,即使是我们绝大多数守法、保守的老年人也不信任和不喜欢你们穿蓝衣服的男孩。聪明的人会承认这个现实,然后认真思考、客观分析其中的原因。但一个智力较低的人只会继续粉饰这一事实,并继续为低地球轨道辩护,同时对那些持批评意见的人做出数十种错误的假设。
    .
    〜D-FensDogG
    “忠实的美国地下”

    • 回复: @joef
  151. @joef

    I think you are correct. “History may not repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes.”

    Good catch with the Naval War College article about feral cities. I’m reading it now.

    • 回复: @JackOH
  152. @D-FensDogG

    Whew! Just wanted to stagger up from under the burden of being “crushed” to send this out. The irony is heavy with this one:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/08/08/very-anti-police-black-activist-robbed-at-gunpoint-and-guess-who-he-calls-for-help/

    All rugged individualists and cop-haters run to the police when they need help. The cognitive dissonance in their minds must be “crushing”.

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  153. @SteveRogers42

    哦,嘿,这个故事改变了一切!好工作。几十年来我亲身经历、阅读、研究和从可信赖的人那里听到的一切都被那一篇文章抹掉了!
    .
    我要做的最后一件事就是打电话给警察。我是第二修正案的坚定拥护者,我行使了这一权利。仅代表我自己而言,我不需要或不想要你的帮助。此外,无论如何你可能都会出现并射杀我的狗。
    .
    〜D-FensDogG
    “忠实的美国地下”

  154. JackOH 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    Steve, I just finished reading the feral cities article. I like that the prof is stretching a bit, but I couldn’t find any way of distinguishing a feral city from your basic crime-ridden, corrupt, and crumbling city. You have some expertise here. Can you comment on the article?

    • 回复: @joef
    , @SteveRogers42
  155. biz 说:
    @Anonymous

    甚至 辛普森它总是在费城阳光明媚 have had parables addressing the “Why do we need 定位、竞价/采购和分析/优化数字媒体采购,但算法只不过是解决问题的操作和规则。, man?” mentality. This is basically the oldest question in civilization, and it has been dealt with.

  156. joef 说:
    @D-FensDogG

    没有包括我吗???嗯,你在帖子中提到了我的化名???
    Now by using a simple concept from statistics as ‘statistical outlier’ is not trying to be fancy as much as just seeking objective truth. Your type seems unable to examen things objectively on a case by case basis. That is because you are completely consumed with resentment, and a desire to condemn your political enemies. And since you claim to actually have lived in an area that had real consequences in regards to criminal violence, there is even less of an excuse for you to contradict reality.

    如果你说警察存在固有的问题,比如传票配额和滥用拦截和扣押,我可以同意。如果你说有些警察是咄咄逼人的以自我为中心的人,滥用权力(甚至他们的一些同事也不喜欢与之合作),那么我再次同意这样的人存在。然而你想让我们其他人接受你是千里眼、无所不知的,并且可以从你当地的居住地点确定全国各地所有你从未见过的400,000万警察都像你所说的那样。抱歉,这要么是傲慢、歇斯底里、愚蠢,要么是疯狂。
    And that is the answer to utu’s question of why people do not wake up & agree with him – – because what he says sounds like he is a wack job to the majority of people who are capable rationally discerning distinctions. Instead anti cop types wants the rest of us to accept their ranting emotional outbursts as well reasoned factual content. And if they do not get 100% compliant agreement, they get upset and name call (I must be honest, I do not remember you doing it, but utu cannot contain himself).

    你说得对,我不喜欢自称的社会战士,他们只是一群迎合者,想做政治正确的事情,以便自我感觉良好(以牺牲我们其他努力工作和纳税的人为代价) 。我为什么关心这个?因为你可能已经忘记了城市凶杀案猖獗的时候,但那些日子我却记得清清楚楚。而你的方法只会让那些日子再次回来。你们社会战士声称如此热爱(为了迎合并自我感觉良好)的所有黑人将成为这些受害者的大多数。但毕竟,你为什么要关心,在社会战士世界观中,意识形态压倒了所有其他考虑因素。
    [如果我的观点有任何错误,我会接受纠正]

  157. utu 说:
    @D-FensDogG

    The two commenters most likely are LEO’s. They sounded like… Which is OK. I have no problem with police in general. Every society needs police but on terms defined by the society. When the terms are dictated by police it is the beginning of the police state. There is no point having a discussion with them as they do not want to face the facts at this point in their lives. There are over 1000 people killed by police every year and over 55,000 injured by police every year. And I do not know if anybody counts the dogs they killed. I haven’t heard of FedEx, UPS or postal worker killing any dogs. Actually I am surprised police have K-9’s. How did they train their dogs without killing them? They seem to have zero tolerate for any disobedience. Perhaps they train their K-9’s with tasers.

    Anyway, 1000 people per year is 100 time more than in Europe. We have a serious problem. And one of the guys will BS through talking about some statistical outliers. 1000 of statistical outliers, right. It’s really pathetic. He clearly is not there yet. He does not recognize that there is a problem.

    • 回复: @joef
  158. joef 说:
    @utu

    I must admit, your line about police k9 dogs was funny (lol).

    But your assumption is that ALL of 1000 were just completely innocent and were not using deadly force against another. That is completely myopic of being able to make any distinctions. Europe in general also has a much lower crime rate. And a postal worker is not called to the scene to control a dangerous dog, that what the police are called to do.

    I do agree with you in one area (do not faint, even I can’t believe I am saying it):

    Every society needs police but on terms defined by the society.

    That is true:
    If people want broken windows enforced then they shall have it, and if they do not, then cops should not be ego invested in their duties, and don’t perform it.

    The same with stop & search for guns (which is mistakenly called stop & frisk: which is a Terry Stop as defined by SCOTUS). If a community wants cops to do it, that is up to them, if they do not then they should not.

    But here is the rub: The community also needs to accept that shootings will go up by criminals within that community if they prefer cops not to engage in those practices. They also need to accept that there is no magic solutions to crime control, and wishful thinking does not apply. Besides omnipresence and the above listed techniques, there is little police can do to prevent crime (actual incarceration has a better affect, which is controlled by the courts).

    So essentially if incarceration is not used, then there are only two alternatives to acutely handling high crime: police that are engaged in the above methods, or police not engaged and crime continues or increases. That is the reality and each community should decide for themselves what they want, not one area of the country deciding for another (and not by the Feds either).

    However they can completely avoid having to make those decisions if incarceration for serious violent offenders was sincerely implemented. Then, along with the elimination of ticket quotas, the police can be like Europe & Japan, and just involve themselves with order maintenance.

    Also I want this to be said: I do not have any animosity towards people who think like you (if you have animosity towards people like me, thats your prerogative). I hope your heart is in the right place, but I do believe you guys are grossly mistaken in outlook. If the consequences of what you believe were not so serious, I would not be bothering you. My criticism is that I believe you guys take reality and force it to conform to your opinions, instead of formulating opinions that reflect reality.
    祝你好运。

  159. joef 说:
    @JackOH

    I first read about ‘Feral Cities’ from a piece written by David Kilcullen, who is a counterinsurgency expert who worked for the State Dept and was an advisor to General Petraeus. When you examen the content, pay intention to the spectrum of intensity regarding Feral Cities. There is an actual table in the literature about it that reflects the degrees of dysfunction, from a mild to severe conditions.

    • 回复: @JackOH
  160. 这是我最后一次打算对你们狮子座做出回应,因为很明显,你们无法“倾听”超出你们自己的假设和世界观的内容。我有一些理智上诚实的人在其他网站和通过电子邮件等待我的回复,而我在这里浪费了宝贵的时间,徒劳无功地让你看到“蓝色”以外的任何颜色。
    .
    >>… 嗯,你在帖子中提到了我的化名?
    .
    你的“假名”?哦,你是说你的笔名吗?你的笔名?您的昵称?
    .
    我从来不会以七美分的价格写“大都市”,因为我可以以同样的价格写“城市”。我从不写“警察”,因为写“警察”我也能得到同样的钱。
    〜马克吐温
    .
    西方仍有待学习的一些东西可能看起来简单得近乎荒谬,但仍然很重要。例如,永远不要使用短词也能发挥作用的长词,永远不要为了证明自己的博学多才而写作,而是为了确保自己的想法尽可能为读者所理解。
    〜道格拉斯·海德
    (摘自他的书《奉献与领导力》)
    .
    >>… 现在,使用统计学中的一个简单概念作为“统计异常值”并不是想花哨,而是只是为了寻求客观真理。
    .
    我在这里的帖子中多次明确提到的一点是,正派、诚实、“保护和服务”的执法人员(我称他们为“理查德·麦克斯警长”)是统计上的异常值。在过去的几十年里,对于绝大多数正派、诚实、守法的公民(我反复提到的另一点)来说,越来越明显的是,绝大多数警察都是“军事化”、残暴、法西斯的收税者对于离开军队后进入执法部门的国家来说,因为他们被认为是这项工作的主要申请人,并满足了他们的侵略性和对冒险的渴望。 (并不是因为他们热爱人类、法律和秩序,并且喜欢为普通公民提供服务。)
    .
    你可以否认这一点,直到你的脸像你的制服一样蓝,但这并不能改变这是事实。我的这一观点是基于我认识的 98% 的平民(他们都没有犯罪背景)的意见。我提到了我二十年的安全工作。在我共事过的所有安全官员中,98% 和我一样不信任和不喜欢警察。但这是一个毫无意义的事实,对吗?这是平民和安全官员的普遍观点,但这不可能与他们的大部分低地球轨道互动以及他们的家人、朋友和邻居的低地球轨道互动有任何关系,对吗?当大多数“好公民”不喜欢警察时,问题就出在警察身上。这甚至不是自助洗衣店的科学。你深深地否认,显然我在这里所说的任何话都不会改变你的职业视野。
    .
    >>...您的类型......完全被怨恨所吞噬,并且渴望谴责您的政敌。
    .
    我已经警告过你不要对我做出宏大的个人假设,但独裁的狮子座心态似乎对此无能为力。我的这个怨恨是什么?这和我可能有的“政敌”有什么关系呢?我是一名立宪主义者,尽管你第二次试图将我与他们混为一谈,但我的反 SJW 资历至少和你一样众多和有力。我不是一个“类型”,但多年来在警察局与警察一起工作以及无数次的随行经历告诉我,对于警察来说,本质上有两种“类型”:蓝色和其他一切。
    .
    然而,我代表你对你承认传票配额和拦截并扣押警务概念的固有问题表示赞赏。现在,如果我们能让你清醒过来,承认所谓的执法中存在许多其他严重的持续问题就好了。
    .
    >>……因为你可能已经忘记了城市凶杀率无处不在的时候,但那些日子我却记得清清楚楚。而你的方法只会让那些日子再次回来。你们社会战士声称如此热爱(为了迎合并自我感觉良好)的所有黑人将成为这些受害者的大多数。
    .
    您所陷入的误解之一是高估了警察部队的价值。我的学术研究表明,大多数武装公民减少犯罪的力度远远超过警察部队。但我不会再浪费时间把它们挖出来并复制到这里。
    .
    如果我需要一个实物教训来了解警察部队在 TSHTF 大事件中是多么无用,那么我在“罗德尼·金骚乱”期间得到了它,当时警察从洛杉矶的所有街道上消失了三天。可以理解的是,他们躲在自己的家里保护自己的家人。有趣的是,骚乱的黑人并没有冒险走出自己的社区,因为他们知道至少 50% 的白人家里有一支或多支枪支。由于数量、火力和卓越的战略制定,如果这个国家发生全面的种族战争,(对某些人来说)它会出人意料地迅速结束,而且不需要近地轨道。
    .
    我将把这些网站留给您。我一点也不相信你可以客观、勤奋、诚实地阅读这些帖子整整一年,并且仍然坚持认为坏警察是“统计异常值”。请记住,这些都是“坏警察被捕”的记述,绝不能被视为目前受雇“保护和服务”普通民众的坏警察总数的全面视图。
    .
    http://www (点) 警察不当行为 (点) 网/
    http://freedominourtime (点)blogspot (点)com/
    http://www (点)policestateusa (点)com/
    .
    下班:报告结束。
    .
    〜D-FensDogG
    “忠实的美国地下”

    • 回复: @joef
  161. JackOH 说:
    @joef

    joef, thanks for the Kilcullen reference. I only read Prof. Norton’s paper very quickly, so I’m sure I missed something.

    I was thinking of the city where I work now, and where I spent my growing-up years. Also, I was thinking of Detroit, those photos of magnificent buildings and neighborhoods decaying and reverting to wilderness. I don’t think my mention of individual “crime, corruption, and crumbling infrastructure” really describes how different some of our cities and their remnant populations are from the rest of America. That’s why I was interested. I’m guessing that “feral city” or “atavistic city”, or something similar, may be a good way of summing up reality. Thanks again.

    • 回复: @joef
  162. joef 说:
    @JackOH

    Happy to help, and sorry for the typo (I used the word intention instead of attention). They are using the concept of Feral City mostly for cities located in foreign developing (3rd world) nations. Unfortunately it will probably become pertinent in eventually describing conditions in some American cities as well.
    Also if you look up credit default swaps for certain states you will see that some states are a credit risk and need to insure their bonds because of their poor financial condition: The last I looked the top five states are Illinois, California, Michigan, New York, and New Jersey are on top of the list.
    While the Federal govt can print money, the states and municipalities have no such ability. Thus they are the canary in the coal mine when it comes to potential govt insolvency.
    Also review total debt (govt & private) as compared to the GDP in graph form. The Financial Times had a very good one but it may be difficult to find.

  163. joef 说:
    @D-FensDogG

    感谢您的评论,但所有这些一维的反警察痴迷言论都变得无聊,还有假装无所不知的傲慢。祝您有美好的一天,先生,并享受与其他朋友一起恶搞的乐趣。我不会再用理性浪费你的时间了,因为你显然完全被你的负面情绪和怨恨所控制。

  164. @JackOH

    Well, geopolitics is a bit above my pay grade, but I’ll give it a shot.

    Under the author’s definition, truly feral cities are , at present, somewhat rare. Mogadishu and Monrovia definitely qualify, maybe some cities in Mexico, and Caracas looks like it’s on the way. Even the worst American cities are in the “green” zone, although Baltimore and Detroit may be shifting into “yellow”.** I would guess that most Third World metropoli would tip over into full feral status if the Western aid pipeline dried up, or if there were some major global economic or military event.

    At present, although many city govts. OPT not to enforce the rule of law in their more vibrant areas, they certainly are physically ABLE to do so. Ethnic gangstas are not exactly the urban warriors that are portrayed in popular entertainment, and the gangs have not forged any alliances with intl. terrorist groups YET (although the El Rukins DID try to get jiggy wit’ Libya back in the day). If our local police and sheriffs depts. really were the Israeli-trained combat vets with a license to kill that some on this thread seem to believe, the gangs would soon be a historical footnote.

    Even our worst urban areas are flooded with city social services, and the poorest of the poor have reliable running water and electricity, as well as access to hospitals and schools that would be the envy of most “yellow” and “red” city populations. Even our worst levels of govt. corruption don’t approach the inevitable-fact-of-life status that baksheesh has in the Third World. Heck, cops can and will be formally disciplined for accepting a free cup of coffee, if someone files a complaint!

    In a nutshell, I would describe the difference between feral cities and our basic decaying American city this way: Nobody leaves Baltimore to go live in Lagos or Lahore, but lots and lots of people leave Lagos and Lahore to live in Baltimore

    However, we may look back on this as The Good Ol’ Days, if our Fearless Leaders continue to flood us with hordes of Somalis, Syrians, and Central American peasants. Not only will these people bring their tribal rivalries and infectious diseases with them, but they have matured in an atmosphere of 4GW that Americans have never experienced. Why we are voluntarily importing trouble is a topic for another day.

    ** For anyone who is interested in the current state of affairs in our inner cities, I cannot recommend James LaFond’s blog highly enough. He is a prolific writer of both fiction and nonfiction, and he lives and works ( a blue-collar job) in da ‘hood in Baltimore. He is truly one of a kind, and he provides behind-the-lines HUMINT that you can’t find anywhere else.

    • 回复: @joef
    , @JackOH
  165. joef 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    好评。
    I was also interested how our future debt/credit problems (which is actually a world wide phenomenon) will cause our cities in the future to become feral. I do not believe that the entirety of the U.S. itself will ever resemble a failed state; but I can see with the lack of future financial resources, that municipalities will be unable to sustain services and entitlements. Couple this with business capital flight when a city’s quality of life has significantly deteriorated. One of the problems with Camden NJ is that it was described as a ‘food desert’ because all the supermarket chains were closed/moved, which caused a situation of the population having limited availability to purchase foodstuffs.
    As certain areas become desperate, when the kicking the can method of finance no longer works, they will most certainly try to tax, fine, fee, forfeiture, and toll their way back to prosperity (which we all know cannot work). When this does not work, they will eventually try austerity measures.
    Due to political volatility, entitlements will be the last budget cut to be performed because they all know that this will immediately result in riots, looting, and arsons. But if the U.S. economy hits the declined state, that I am attempting to describe here, then there will be no rebuilding after the destruction from the civil unrest. It takes a long time for civilization to build to prosperity, but decline can happen fairly quickly.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  166. joef 说:

    Also, if I may recommend, examining other nations that have recently been through political/economic/social turmoil. These nations are Greece, Cyprus, Argentina, the Balkans, and Zimbabwe. Also review the recent history of Weimar Germany. There is also the more recent example of Venezuela. All had their own versions of social disruption, and economic scarcity. Some have suffered famines because of this.
    But the most interesting example is Zimbabwe itself. Before the take over of Rhodesia by Mugabe (that was pushed by the leftist), it was considered the prosperous bread basket of southern African continent. In addition it had the best infrastructure in the region as well. After the take over it had famines, hyperinflation, and rotting infrastructure. The infrastructure problems includes road conditions that disabled vehicles from their huge potholes, sewage backups, leaking water mains that lose so much water, that almost nothing arrives at the faucets, constant rolling blackouts, and frequent food shortages. The police have no vehicles to respond to crimes in progress, and require the crime victim to come to the police station house to prepare an incident report (unless the victim provides transportation for the officer to respond).
    Another interesting example is Argentina which was the most prosperous nation in South America. A person who relates his experiences living under the decline of Argentina, is the blog Ferfal. You may also look into the books on the Weimer Germany such as Taylor’s ‘The Downfall of Money’, and Fergusson’s ‘When money dies’. In addition there is a book on how hyperinflation ruined Zimbabwe called ‘When Money Destroys Nations’ by Haslam.
    And one last thing, the TV series ‘The Wire’ generally depicts the municipal dysfunction accurately (with exception of some over dramatized character portrayals), and shows that our municipal problems are like a giant gordian knot.
    I hope this may assist you.

  167. utu 说:

    “loaded live rounds into the gun instead of blanks”

    Florida mother, 73, is accidentally shot and killed by a cop in front of 34 people during role play exercise after officer playing a ‘bad guy’ loaded live rounds into the gun instead of blanks

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3732622/Police-Woman-killed-Florida-officer-academy-exercise.html

  168. JackOH 说:
    @SteveRogers42

    Thanks for your comments here, Steve. Ditto, joef. I’m a natural gloomy Gus, so I actually need some way of distinguishing your basic busted-up American city from a Third World dump. I have to struggle to admit the city where I grew up and where I work now delivers electricity and water, attracts investment (Family Dollar, local grocers and gasoline retailers), provides government-subsidized bus and other services, etc.

    Corrupt or incompetent police, including local chiefs of police, are prosecuted or dismissed by strong mayors. I’ve never heard a gunshot fired in anger, and most of the motives for murder can be localized to turf–drugs and “honor”–and domestics gone haywire.

    Thanks again to Steve and joef for their measured and informed comments on this thread.

    • 回复: @SteveRogers42
  169. joef 说:

    Thank you & do not lose hope my friend. There are good people who are givers, and bad people who are takers, and plenty of people in between who are just followers. Value trustworthy people, and maintain your own strength to help others and to protect yourself from the predators.
    Most of mankind had to struggle through adverse times so we are not so unique. Life & history always went on. Concentrate on the things you can control in your life, and do not worry about what you cannot, while at the same time keep informed. We as a people put too much value on materialistic things that can be taken away – – they are really not as important as they seem. It is funny how humans realize what is most valuable when challenged by hardship & struggle. Ultimately all we can do is to try to adapt to what ever the future will bring us, in the best way possible.
    上帝保佑。

  170. @JackOH

    Buddy, I know whatcha mean. For the first two decades of my life, I grew up in a two-parent middle-class family in a medium-sized Middle American city that was 90% European stock. I took all the positives for granted. I even thought it was a little “boring”. Now, I could tear my own hair out when I think about “America the Lovely and the Lost”.

    What this article puts in perspective for me is that we’ve still got it real good compared to most of the rest of the world, and we’ve got to do our damnedest to make sure we don’t slide any further down the drain. It CAN be done. We come from survivor stock. I think it was Heinlein who said “The cowards never started and the weak died out along the way.”

    Maybe I’m a cockeyed optimist, but it seems to me that whenever America desperately needed strong leadership with vision, the right men miraculously appeared: The Founding Fathers. The great generals and admirals of WW2. Uncle Ronnie in the Cold War era. We are now in an existential crisis that matches or exceeds anything that has come before, and it seems to me that help is on the way.

  171. JackOH 说:

    Agree about that “existential crisis”, and I’ll guess that the extraordinary legacy costs and declining tax bases of our big cities will be strong drivers of decision-making.

    I hope there’ll be people and institutions strong enough to shine a spotlight on how godawfully bad political decisions of the past created today’s America. Likewise, I hope they’ll be strong enough to resist federal solutions to everything, and try instead for, maybe, a restoration of the better elements of a pre-1964 social and political equilibrium. Thanks again.

  172. utu 说:

    Police tackle suicidal woman holding meat cleaver to the floor

    Comment from Daily Mail: In another country they’d have already “feared for their lives” and ended hers to “protect her from herself”.

  173. 我喜欢 Reed 先生如何在情况需要时以全新的方式重述文章和想法。 非常感谢 Unz 和作者。

  174. utu 说:

    A North Carolina state trooper shot dead a deaf and mute man who was apparently trying to communicate using sign language after he was pulled over for a speeding violation.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3753378/North-Carolina-state-trooper-shoots-dead-deaf-mute-man.html

  175. utu 说:

    Rules of engagement: shooting at running unarmed man

    Brooklyn teen was shot 16 times after surrendering to cops

  176. utu 说:

    45 years for shooting police dog
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3760185/Ohio-man-23-shot-dead-K-9-police-dog-pleads-guilty-sentenced-45-years-prison.html

    Was ever any policemen at least reprimanded for shooting a dog. How many thousands dogs are killed by police per year?

  177. utu 说:

    Cop who left his dog partner to die in a hot car for 38 HOURS now faces five years in prison for felony animal cruelty

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3769946/Cop-left-dog-partner-die-hot-car-38-HOURS-faces-five-years-prison-felony-animal-cruelty.html

    俄亥俄州窃贼在法官称他的行为“无法容忍”后因杀害警犬 Jethro 被判入狱 45 年

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3760185/Ohio-man-23-shot-dead-K-9-police-dog-pleads-guilty-sentenced-45-years-prison.html

  178. utu 说:

    Dashcam video shows the moment unarmed pastor was shot dead by police after they tasered him – despite having his hands in the air

    了解更多: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3797132/Dashcam-video-shows-moment-unarmed-pastor-shot-dead-police-tasered-despite-hands-air.html#ixzz4KkNTIHzV

  179. utu 说:

    'F*** this guy, I’m gonna hit him’: Dashcam footage shows police trying to run over a mentally ill homeless man before fatally shooting him 14 times

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3817158/Dashcam-footage-shows-police-trying-run-mentally-ill-homeless-man-fatally-shooting-14-times.html#ixzz4LyVzdkRs

  180. utu 说:

    ‘I never saw a kid, bro’: Police release graphic video boy, six, being shot dead by cops ‘in self defense’ after it is allowed into evidence for murder trial of two officers

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3812560/Court-releases-video-police-shooting-killed-La-boy.html#ixzz4LyWER9pt

  181. utu 说:

    VIDEO: Cop Beats, Tasers, Falsely Arrests Innocent Man after He Asked the Cop Not to Block His Driveway
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/belligerent-cop-assaults-innocent-man/#l43zitwt8E0xBhMr.99

  182. utu 说:

    ‘I’m the boss:’ Cop who sparked protests in Milwaukee after he fatally shot black man ‘raped fellow male drinker the next night after watching rioting on TV in a bar while bragging he could do what he wanted’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

  183. utu 说:

    手无寸铁的 73 岁患有痴呆症的祖父凌晨 12.30 点 XNUMX 分在自家街区闲逛时被加州警察连开九枪身亡

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4027656/Unarmed-man-73-shot-killed-police-California.html#ixzz4SlN1Uetr

  184. utu 说:

    Cops Allow Police Dog to Bite Naked, Unarmed Man (Dec. 12, 2016)

  185. utu 说:

    Graphic footage shows FIVE cops shooting dead a blind man in convenience store because he was ‘agitated’ and ‘holding a knife’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4132928/Footage-reveals-five-police-shooting-dead-blind-man.html#ixzz4WAD5kdh7

  186. utu 说:

    Cop is caught ‘LYING’ about how he killed black musician whose car broke down: Prosecutors claim victim was already dead when officer called 911 for backup as new recording of his ‘call for help’ is released

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4130446/Cop-caught-LYING-killed-Corey-Jones.html#ixzz4WADowjTb

  187. utu 说:

    Example of proper police engagement. Policeman back off, uses the taser. Nobody gets killed.

    Connecticut warehouse employee is tased as he lunges at police with a knife after ‘stabbing his co-workers’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4145814/Warehouse-employee-tased-lunges-police.html#ixzz4WXzPSU2s

  188. utu 说:

    Former cop is charged with attempted manslaughter after shooting an unarmed teenager as he lay face-down on the ground during an arrest

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276438/Former-officer-charged-attempted-manslaughter.html#ixzz4aEd1D7Bf

  189. utu 说:

    Officer is CLEARED of any wrongdoing after shooting a veteran when he ‘mistook his wallet for a weapon’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4303558/Footage-emerges-cop-shooting-man-holding-wallet.html#ixzz4b1rAs7Ql

  190. utu 说:

    Finally policeman punished. This tragedy could be avoided if police were trained in non-lethal rules son engagement.

    Louisiana marshal who accidentally shot dead a six-year-old autistic boy is sentenced to 40 years in prison

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4369248/Officer-gets-40-years-prison-childs-shooting-death.html#ixzz4cvoMHwLN

    • 回复: @Grahamsno(G64)
  191. Swedenistan:

    Four (apparently) female-ish Eurocops try to arrest one practitioner of the Religion of Peace, using hugs and firm verbal commands. Hilarity ensues.

    Det går bra nu…..

    发布者 Mikael Nyren 在2年2017月XNUMX日星期日

    When Good Citizen Olaf shows up to help the copettes, and immediately takes the “immigrant” to the ground, he is sternly chastised for his impudence, and it looks for a moment as if the Dykes of Danger will try to arrest HIM!

    After completely dominating the FOUR (4) trusty representatives of the Swedish Crown, I wish Abdullah had gotten into their little sissy European police car and driven away. Then they could have had a gut-wrenching European car chase at the speed of smell.

  192. Embarrassing display of weakness and incompetence in this Euro taffy-pull:

    Lack of pride, lack of guts, or both?

  193. @utu

    Well that’s because the boy was white and the cop black, the pig would have never been convicted if the races were reversed. Shooting blacks is a hobby with American cops.

  194. utu 说:

    Bad Training!

    ‘You hesitate, you die’: Oklahoma cop says her police training was running through her mind as she shot dead an unarmed black man

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508368/Oklahoma-officer-testifies-manslaughter-trial.html#ixzz4hDEHxxpO

  195. utu 说:

    How to police the police?

    Furious NYPD cops are circulating a target range picture with Commissioner James O’Neill’s face after an officer was charged with murder for shooting a disabled woman dead

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4568824/NYPD-cops-furious-Hugh-Barry-charged-murder.html#ixzz4iwxMSgaX

  196. A skillfully-executed retreat from criminals, as taught at the French police academy:

    https://twitter.com/EngageTheRebels/status/877746530119163905

  197. Europe’s “police” have their priorities in order:

    It’s fierce, fabulous, and can accelerate up to speeds of three!

  198. While the German police are either unable or unwilling (or both) to deal with the raghead infestation, they manage to find the gumption to crack down mercilessly on actual Germans who are mildly protesting their own slow-motion genocide:

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/06/german-police-raid-36-homes-for-hateful-social-media-posts/

  199. UK police in full effect!

  200. More shrewd police work from the UK as the euros show us how it’s done!

  201. Unarmed British Bobette raped while trying to arrest a rapist.

    你不能把这个东西编起来。

  202. Grim German gun-gals standing guard with no magazines in their scheisgewhers.

    http://www.krone.at/545573

    Europe is just a bad joke.

  203. All wrong! The cop should have run away screaming!

    美国警察遇到了安提法分子……这是一次相当短暂的对抗

    Those damn Americans just aren’t sophisticated enough to understand how it’s done in Europe!

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