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1940年XNUMX月,由希特勒青年团组成的六人代表团访问了日本,由阿道夫·希特勒亲自执行一项任务:“唯一需要做的就是彻底体验日本人民在国家政体中产生的伟大精神。 ”[1]引用 大本山荣平寺:山庄,5年1941月279日,第XNUMX页。 XNUMX。 为了纪念他们,日本人创作了一首歌 BanzaiHitorāJūgento (希特勒青年万岁!, 视频在这里)。 作为他们进行精神和文化交流的使命的一部分,年轻的德国人被允许在 荣平治是日本最重要的两个禅宗寺庙之一,目的是观察和品尝僧侣的生活。

该访问记录在一篇日本文章中,题为“希特勒青年(蓝眼睛作为禅宗客人度过一夜)”。[2]“蓝眼睛”是西方人的日语术语。 文本是相当蓬松的报告。 作者声称,日本客人用筷子比一些来访的中国和尚以前吃得更熟练。 当德国人品尝修道院的佛教素食时,发生了以下情况:

[希特勒青年代表团团长海因里希(Heinrich)]于尔根斯继续说,德国有很多素食主义者,尽管不是出于宗教原因。 富勒·阿道夫·希特勒(FührerAdolf Hitler)的素食主义者广为人知,但于尔根斯(Jürgens)解释说,他个人朝这个方向倾斜,因为他通常只吃水果作为早餐。 禅宗加藤大师听到此消息后问道:“这是否意味着希特勒是禅宗?” 这样,每个人都大笑起来。

禅宗大师以幽默感而闻名!

于尔根斯继续观察到,第三帝国的人民正在寻求新的灵性(新闻工作者的总结):

如今的德国人民对他们迄今所拥有的宗教已不再满意。 但是,能够完全满足德国人民需求的新宗教尚未诞生。 因此,直到出现一种新的民族宗教,他们还是不得不依靠他们迄今为止所拥有的宗教。 希特勒青年团采取同样的立场。

希特勒青年代表团与僧侣一起在日本永平寺的禅宗庙里
希特勒青年代表团与僧侣一起在日本永平寺的禅宗庙里

美国禅师布赖恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria)发掘了这些事件和文件,他对日本禅宗机构对第二次世界大战期间对日本战争努力的支持非常批评。[3]布莱恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria),《希特勒·尤金德的禅宗》 亚太日报,卷第14期第2期,2年18月2016日。https://apjjf.org/2016/02/2-Victoria.html他的文章包括有关希特勒青年时期访问的当代日本文章的完整翻译。 无论人们如何看待维多利亚的观点,他都作为历史学家在揭示日本宗教与德国法西斯主义之间这种令人惊讶的关系方面做出了宝贵的贡献。 本文主要借鉴了他的开创性工作。

希特勒人以民族沙文主义而臭名昭著,但当他们看到一个有才华的外国人和文化时,他们也可以认出他们。 维多利亚观察到,从精神和文化的角度来看,许多主要的国家社会主义者实际上都非常欣赏日本的社会和文化,在某些方面甚至认为它们优于德国。

据报道,希特勒告诉他的军备部长阿尔伯特·斯佩尔(Albert Speer):“你知道,信仰错误是我们的不幸。 为什么我们没有日本人的宗教,他们把为祖国的牺牲视为最高的利益?”[4]阿尔伯特·斯佩尔, 在第三帝国内部 (纽约:麦克米伦(Macmillan),1971年)。 143.希特勒对伊斯兰教作为一种战士宗教也抱有很高的评价。 有人发现私下里记录了类似的评论 表谈话包括对基督教的明显攻击和对科学的拥护,同时认识到宗教对大众的效用。 但是,可靠性 表谈话 尚不清楚。 希特勒和able可亲的副手鲁道夫·赫斯(Rudolf Hess)认为,融入日本人对日本人来说更容易:“我们(也像日本人一样)也在为消灭个人主义而斗争。 我们正在为建立在极权主义新思想基础上的新德国而奋斗。 在日本,这种思维方式自然而然地出现在人们的脑海中。[5]引用布莱恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria)的话, 禅宗战争故事,前作(伦敦:Routledge Curzon,2003年)。

日军的努力给德国人民留下了深刻的印象。 党卫军1942年XNUMX月的形势报告。 党卫队保安处 (SS的情报机构,安全局)担心,有关日本人英勇努力的积极报道正开始吓ordinary普通德国人:

以前的观点认为德国士兵是世界上最好的,这种说法被日本游泳者撤走了在香港摆放的地雷的描述或日本飞行员who视死亡,用炸弹在敌舰上猛扑而感到困惑。 这部分地导致了自卑感。 日本人看起来像是一种超级牛顿[格曼(Germant Im Quadrat)].[6]在赫伯特·沃尔姆(Herbert Worm)的《 Japanologie im Nationalsozialismus》中引用:Gerhard Krebs和Bernd Martin(ed。), 柏林与东京的形成与堕落 (慕尼黑:Iudicium Verlag 1994),第153-186页。

德国人最终将日本人爱国自我牺牲的超凡能力与神道教,佛教(尤其是禅宗)和武士的遗产和精神联系在一起。

实际上,德国民族主义者对德国历史和文化的看法常常是非常矛盾的。 弗里德里希·尼采(Friedrich Nietzsche)对基督教的批评是犹太人启发的奴隶宗教,强调温顺,谦卑,可怜的公义,以及换言之得救,在第三帝国盛行。 虔诚的基督教民族社会主义者寻求清除犹太人和奴隶制的基督教,强调中世纪早期宗教的德国化[7]受社会生物学启发的历史上的杰出著作:詹姆斯·C·拉塞尔(James C. Russell) 中世纪早期基督教的日耳曼化:宗教转型的社会历史方法 (牛津大学出版社,1996)。 以及像禅宗一样的神秘大师埃克哈特(Eckhart)和热心的反犹主义者马丁·路德(Martin Luther)等德国基督徒的作品。

精锐的军事和警察部队负责人海因里希·希姆勒(Heinrich Himmler)试图从古代日耳曼异教,印度教甚至佛教中汲取灵感,为自己的士兵创造某种新异教徒的灵性。 如果您浏览专门针对SS精英的出版物-尤其是各种 莱瑟夫特 (“主期刊”是一种杂志)–人们对如何 大公 这些可能是出于他们的文明灵感。 除了关于德国,维京人或古代日耳曼历史和艺术的文章外,您可能还会在日本(盟友感到惊讶)或古代希腊,罗马,波斯和印度找到相关文章。 这是因为后四个文明是由Aryan征服者建立的-今天在政治上更正确的术语是“ Indo-European”(德国-欧洲人),这个名字被德国人强烈地认同(实际上,有时称这个人为“ Indo-德语”)。 希姆莱(Himmler)对此非常认真,他组织了一次著名的1938-39年对西藏的考察,并随身携带了古老的印度史诗《 巴格瓦吉塔,考虑到其完美随意但超脱的举止精神对于SS男人来说是完美的。

简而言之,德国民族主义者对 易碎的 德国文化和精神史的性质–在不同国家,宗教和文明影响之间长期困扰。 特别是基督教,经常被批评为来自中东的普世主义宗教,对生存的种族斗争相对无动于衷。

相比之下,日本的历史和文化过去(现在仍然是)仍然具有高度的连贯性和一致性,这是一个自成一体的民族文化世界。 维多利亚注意:

相比之下,日方显然认为他们已经拥有不可动摇且强大的精神基础,非常适合动员日本人民参加战争。 尽管没有在本文中直接讨论,但人们普遍相信其精神基础的力量,包括扎根于神道的神父,使日本能够接受该国可以战胜西方的想法,尽管后者被公认具有物质优势。[8]维多利亚,《希特勒·尤金德》 亚太日报,14年2月2日,18、2016、2016。https://apjjf.org/02/2/XNUMX-Victoria.html

日本宗教首先由神道教组成,本质上是日本版的异教徒,神灵居住在日本全境,家庭神灵,日本本身和天皇都是神圣的。 这要求日本人捍卫和永续其民族和国家的宗教义务。 在这一切中,神道教与古希腊罗马异教徒之间的相似之处令人震惊。[9]在上面,请参阅Fustel de Coulanges的 古城 (也译为 雅利安文明)和纪尧姆·杜罗彻(Guillaume Durocher),“古希腊的生物政治,种族主义和民族主义:概述”, 西方观察家,11年2018月2018日。https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/08/11/XNUMX/bio...-view/ 两者似乎都反映了人类的原始宗教,本质上是对部落血统进行了神化,而该部落血统肯定是在轴心时代的和解与普世主义宗教开始之前在欧亚大陆占主导地位的,而日本由于其孤立而部分地与世隔绝。

除了神道教徒外,日本在六世纪还接受了中国的佛教,这在两个世纪以来导致了两种宗教之间的一定程度的冲突。 最终,在我看来神道教的天真的生命力和不可言喻的[10]实际的? 悲观? 虚无主义者? 佛教学科,尤其是禅宗,已被证明对日本极为有益。

日本和德国的本地游客都同意,禅为日本的精神力量和文化活力提供了很大的基础。 某些德国人试图从日本汲取灵感,以增强自己国家的精神。 一个著名的例子是持卡的国家社会主义者卡夫·弗里德·杜克海姆伯爵(CounterfriedDürckheim)(自1933年以来),他在日本工作,在战乱期间为德国进行过“文化外交”。 战争结束后,迪克海姆成为受人尊敬的心理治疗师和准禅宗大师,并在1990年代开始撰写书籍。

迪克海姆(Dürckheim)寻求在德国 伏尔基施 (民族民族主义者)依据。 在此,他借鉴了众多历史人物的思想和冥想实践,包括埃克哈特大师,洛约拉的圣伊格纳修斯和禅宗大师。 他对禅宗说:“禅宗首先是一种意志和意志的宗教。 它极大地反对知识哲学和话语思维,而是依靠直觉作为通往真相的直接和直接途径。” 历史学家卡尔·拜尔(Karl Baier)说,杜尔克海姆(Dürckheim)非常钦佩,“有时人们会以为他认为日本人会是纳粹分子更好的印象。”[11]卡尔·拜尔(Karl Baier),“杜克海姆伯爵(Dürckheim)纳粹世界观的形成和原理以及他对日本精神和禅宗的诠释”, 亚太日报,卷11年48月3日,第2期,第2013期,第2013期。https://apjjf.org/11/48/4041/Karl-Baier/XNUMX/article.html本文是对XNUMX世纪民族中心主义的一个很好的概述德国人试图复兴欧洲的灵性。

迪克海姆并不孤单。 也是NSDAP成员的哲学家Eugen Herrigel也在日本度过了一段时光,这种经历将成为战后经典的基础 禅与射箭艺术 (将先例设置为无数 禅宗和。 。 。 书籍,例如摩托车维修,潜水炸弹等)。

1941年,禅宗学者DT铃木(DT Suzuki)发表了他的德语译本 禅与日本文化 –该领域的另一经典–在德国媒体上获得了好评。 这 弗尔基舍(VölkischerBeobachter) (“民俗观察家”,NSDAP官方报纸,1.7年有1944万读者)出版了整本书的四页。 这 观察者在对铃木的书的评论中,日本“已经能够在罕见的种族,宗教和政治和谐中生存了两个半千年。 。 。 。 日本人杰出的民族美德植根于禅宗中,这一事实标志着对这种实际生活艺术的巨大认可。”[12]布莱恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria)引用“第三帝国的日本佛教” 牛津佛教研究中心杂志,卷。 7年2014月210日,第101页。 XNUMX. http://www.jocbs.org/index.php/jocbs/article/view/XNUMX 德国人对禅宗的兴​​趣也扩展到了最高的学术界。 据报道,著名的哲学家马丁·海德格尔(Martin Heidegger)谈到铃木时说:“如果我正确地理解了这个人,这就是我一直在努力写的。”

最重要的是,德国人钦佩武士的精神,据说其本身部分是受到禅宗对纪律和无常的强调的启发,最终形成了一种严格的,不怕死亡的生活方式。 武士精神的明确声明是非凡的书 叶隐 –我向所有人推荐–这是退休的武士转僧山本通本的回忆录。 希姆莱(Himmler)对武士十分着迷,以至于他在1938年安排出版了一本小册子,印刷了52,000册。 。 。 每个党卫军一个。 他写道:“利用这段简短的武士历史,我们谨记一些久已忘记的事实。 。 。 这些通常是少数族裔群体,赋予一个国家以世俗的生命。” 党卫军的座右铭 Meine EhreheißtTreue (我的荣誉是忠诚度),与武士绝对强调专一地奉献给他们的主人非常相似。

希姆勒显然将精神发展视为良好领导力的核心。 据报道,他告诉芬兰按摩师:“我钦佩印度宗教创始人的智慧,他们要求他们的国王和政要每年撤退到修道院进行冥想。 稍后我们将创建类似的机构。”[13]在Palash Ghosh中引用:“ Heinrich Himmler:纳粹印度教徒” 国际商业时报“,10年2012月214444日。https://www.ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-XNUMX 我了解这种精神纪律在硅谷科技企业家中越来越受欢迎,尤其是 Twitter首席执行官杰克多尔西.

当时,希姆莱显然有兴趣在传统主义者的基础上建立第三帝国,这是在体现某些价值观而非自由主义者,平等主义者的价值观和多数统治的军事精神精英的领导下进行的。 意大利和德国的法西斯主义试图重新建立政体,以“欧洲武士”之类的规则代替自由民主制。 意大利法西斯主义者声称正在建立一个 三角藻 (“战oc时代”),那些愿意在第一次世界大战的战es中战斗并冒着生命危险的人应该统治。 希特勒,可能是虚假的 表谈话 归功于他,他颇有力地主张,德国应由那些在战时表现出自我牺牲和英勇的人(仅在日耳曼人中间)统治。

维多利亚对禅宗对死亡的强调感到不安。[14]就个人而言,我想说,大多数精神道路在暴力问题上根本上是中立的。 像圣雄甘地这样的精神拥护者确实提出了非暴力宗教。 但这不是唯一的途径。 基于不愿以更多的暴力来对抗暴力,有多少人(无论是否属灵的)都会像他一样拒绝参加第二次世界大战,无论是支持希特勒还是反对希特勒? 然而,自从荷马以来,为了荣誉,真理和善良而冒着生命危险是所有以英雄主义为基础的传统道德的核心。 我们最终都将死去,为什么不冒生命的危险去冒险,为什么要过着不值得的生活呢? 禅宗和武士的精神是不同的,但与此同时,对行动的承诺 属世的支队。 就像斯多葛派的武士一样,武士知道他只有自己的思想与他合作,并且竭尽所能,并且完全摆脱了必然不可预测的结果。 顺便说一句,正是这种精神在人们发现时如此精美地表达出来。 巴格瓦吉塔.

说明

[1] 引用 大本山荣平寺:山庄,5年1941月279日,第XNUMX页。 XNUMX。

[2] “蓝眼睛”是西方人的日语术语。

[3] 布莱恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria),《希特勒·尤金德的禅宗》 亚太日报,卷》第14卷第2期,2年18月2016日。 https://apjjf.org/2016/02/2-Victoria.html 他的文章包括有关希特勒青年时期访问的当代日本文章的完整翻译。

[4] 阿尔伯特·斯佩尔, 在第三帝国内部 (纽约:麦克米伦(Macmillan),1971年)。 143.希特勒对伊斯兰教作为一种战士宗教也抱有很高的评价。 有人发现私下里记录了类似的评论 表谈话包括对基督教的明显攻击和对科学的拥护,同时认识到宗教对大众的效用。 但是,可靠性 表谈话 尚不清楚。

[5] 引用布莱恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria)的话, 禅宗战争故事,前作(伦敦:Routledge Curzon,2003年)。

[6] 在赫伯特·沃尔姆(Herbert Worm)的《 Japanologie im Nationalsozialismus》中引用:Gerhard Krebs和Bernd Martin(ed。), 柏林与东京的形成与堕落 (慕尼黑:Iudicium Verlag 1994),第153-186页。

[7] 受社会生物学启发的历史上的杰出著作:詹姆斯·C·拉塞尔(James C. Russell) 中世纪早期基督教的日耳曼化:宗教转型的社会历史方法 (牛津大学出版社,1996)。

[8] 维多利亚,《希特勒·尤金德》 亚太日报,14年2月2日,18日,2016日,XNUMX日。 https://apjjf.org/2016/02/2-Victoria.html

[9] 在上面,请参阅Fustel de Coulanges的 古城 (也译为 雅利安文明)和纪尧姆·杜罗彻(Guillaume Durocher),“古希腊的生物政治,种族主义和民族主义:概述”, 西方观察家,8月11,2018。 https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/08/11/biopolitics-racialism-and-nationalism-in-ancient-greece-a-summary-view/

[10] 实际的? 悲观? 虚无主义者?

[11] 卡尔·拜尔(Karl Baier),“杜克海姆伯爵(Dürckheim)纳粹世界观的形成和原理以及他对日本精神和禅宗的诠释”, 亚太日报,卷11年48月3日,第2卷,第2013期,第XNUMX期。 https://apjjf.org/2013/11/48/Karl-Baier/4041/article.html 顺便说一句,这篇文章很好地概述了XNUMX世纪以民族为中心的德国人试图复兴欧洲精神的尝试。

[12] 布莱恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria)引用“第三帝国的日本佛教” 牛津佛教研究中心杂志,卷。 7年2014月210日,第XNUMX页。 XNUMX。 http://www.jocbs.org/index.php/jocbs/article/view/101

[13] 在Palash Ghosh中引用:“ Heinrich Himmler:纳粹印度教徒” 国际商业时报“,April 10,2012。 https://www.ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-214444

[14] 就个人而言,我想说,大多数精神道路在暴力问题上根本上是中立的。 像圣雄甘地这样的精神拥护者确实提出了非暴力宗教。 但这不是唯一的途径。 基于不愿以更多的暴力来对抗暴力,有多少人(无论是否属灵的)都会像他一样拒绝参加第二次世界大战,无论是支持希特勒还是反对希特勒?

 
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  1. 即使在国家社会主义制度下,德国武装部队也从未接受过日本人的“死战”精神。

    • 回复: @ClassicBenz
    , @Anonymous
  2. 这是因为后四种文明是由雅利安征服者创立的——今天以政治上更正确的术语“印欧”而闻名

    你为什么一直这样做? 请你停下来。 得到一些帮助。 雅利安是一个印度伊朗语词。 印度裔伊朗人在宗教、种族、语言等方面与印度欧洲人完全不同。没​​有人将印度裔伊朗人称为“印度欧洲人”。 将印裔伊朗人与印欧人分开是不存在政治正确的阴谋。 罗马和希腊不是由印度-伊朗人创立的。

    印度裔伊朗人开始于有线器皿文化的终结以及北欧牧民向欧洲和欧亚草原的向外迁移,对以前居住在那里的印欧人(如颜那亚和阿法纳西沃)进行了种族灭绝。 最早看似“雅利安”的文化是 Sintashta 和 Andronovo,他们取代了草原上几乎所有的印欧文化。

  3. Victor 说:

    “随身携带着古老的印度教史诗《巴格瓦德歌》,”

    拜托,《博伽梵歌》是梵文史诗《摩诃婆罗多》中的一集。

    这是阿朱那王子和毗湿奴的化身克里希纳之间的对话。
    在发生的战斗中担任阿朱那的战车
    当 Arjuna 不愿杀死他的表兄弟时。

    可能创作于公元前 400 年至公元 200 年之间的某个时间。
    也许由多个作者。

    • 回复: @Brabantian
  4. @Sam Coulton

    这些印裔伊朗人不也是印欧人吗? 印度-伊朗语族被认为是印欧语系的一个分支,这意味着印度-伊朗人是印欧语系。 绳器文化和北欧牧民也可能被认为是印欧文化。

    至于雅利安这个词,根据维基百科:

    前原始印度-伊朗人

    据推测,原始印度-伊朗语一词起源于原始印欧语系,[19][20] 而根据 Szemerényi 的说法,它可能是来自 Ugaritic ary, kinsmen 的近东借词。 [27]

    据推测,原始印欧语词根是*haerós,意思是“自己(种族)群体的成员、同伴、自由人”,以及雅利安语的印度-伊朗语意思。 从它派生出来的词是[28]

    赫梯语前缀 arā- 意思是自己团体的成员、同伴、同伴和朋友;
    古爱尔兰艾尔,意思是“自由人”和“高贵”
    带有 Ario 的高卢人名-
    Avestan airya- 意为雅利安人,广义上的伊朗人
    古印度-雅利安 ari- 意思是依附于、忠实、忠诚的人和亲属
    古印度-雅利安 aryá- 意思是善良、友善、依恋和忠诚
    古印度-雅利安 árya- 意为雅利安人,忠于吠陀宗教。

    *haerós 这个词本身被认为来自词根 *haer- 意思是“放在一起”。 原始印欧语的原意明确强调“群体内的地位”,有别于外人,特别是那些被俘虏并作为奴隶纳入群体的人。 在安纳托利亚,基本词已经开始强调个人关系,而在印度-伊朗语中,这个词具有更多的民族意义。 [28]

    如果这是真的,那么爱尔兰的 Ire 也是雅利安人的衍生物,就像伊朗一样,可能还有希腊的“英雄”,我可以找到一些在荷马之前提到的参考资料,将所有自由的希腊人称为战士。

    然而,雅利安这个词在政治上已经被砍掉了,因为它与纳粹主义有关,有利于“原始印欧人”。

    到第二次世界大战结束时,许多人中的“雅利安”一词已经失去了浪漫主义或理想主义的内涵,而被许多人与纳粹种族主义联系起来。

    到那时,“印伊人”和“印欧人”一词在许多学者眼中已经使“雅利安人”一词的大部分使用变得多余,而“雅利安人”现在仅在大多数学术使用中幸存下来“Indo-Aryan”表示(使用)北印度语言。 一位学者断言,印度-雅利安人和雅利安人可能不相等,而且这种等式没有历史证据的支持,[85] 尽管这种极端观点并不普遍。

    在学术使用中使用该术语来指定所有印欧语言的使用者现在被一些学者认为是“应避免的偏差。”[86] 然而,一些为大众消费写作的作者继续使用“雅利安人”这个词”代表 HG Wells 传统中的“所有印欧人”[87][88],例如科幻小说作家 Poul Anderson,[89] 以及为流行媒体写作的科学家,例如 Colin Renfrew。[90]

    来自原始印度伊朗语言的维基:

    Proto-Indo-Iranian 是一种卫星语言,可能从其祖先晚期的原始印欧语系中移除了不到一千年

  5. El Dato 说:

    最重要的是,德国人钦佩武士的精神,据说这种精神在一定程度上受到了禅宗强调纪律和无常的启发,最终形成了一种不怕死的严谨生活方式。

    他们也不反对成为极端的混蛋,而不是为了一点运动而虐待和谋杀下层阶级的成员(想想拥有军事武器的暴徒),沉迷于沉重的宫廷阴谋,并有一种宁愿失去生命的末期智障感“丢脸”——有时会导致荒谬(和大规模)的临终事件。

    这不是它的完成方式。

    事实上,我怀疑现代的“武士魅力”是 30 年代大规模创作的叙事的遗留物,日本和纳粹神话相互补充。

    好莱坞当然会从保险杠上吸取这种铬:

    https://www.tofugu.com/japan/bushido/

    [更多]

    1899 年,“自称日本与西方之间的桥梁”新户部出版了后来成为他最著名的作品,这是对日本统治阶级理想的浪漫化、西化的总结,武士道:日本的灵魂 (Braudy 467)。

    ...

    在驯服武士的过程中,新户部甚至以基督教习俗为幌子证明了他们最野蛮的属性——切腹(也称为 harakiri 或仪式自杀)和剑。 而这一切都始于灵魂。

    新户部宣称,在西方和日本的习俗中,灵魂都被安置在胃里。 “他们(《圣经》中的约瑟夫、大卫、以赛亚和耶利米)都赞同日本人普遍认为腹部供奉灵魂的信念”(113)。

    这一断言使新户部将自杀推崇为一种神圣的行为,“对荣誉的最高评价是许多人自杀的充分借口”,然后挑战西方读者抵制他的解释,“我敢说,许多优秀的基督徒,如果只有他们足够诚实,才会承认对卡托、布鲁图斯、彼得罗尼乌斯和许多其他古代伟人结束他们自己尘世存在的崇高镇静的迷恋,如果不是积极的钦佩的话。” (113-114)。

    剑也接受了类似的处理,Nitobe 宣称剑匠是艺术家,而不是工匠。 剑不是武器,而是拥有者灵魂的代表。 他解释说:

    “拥有这件危险的工具本身就赋予了他(武士)一种自尊和责任感的感觉和气质。 “他不徒然拿着刀”(罗马书 13:4)。 他腰带上的东西象征着他的思想和内心——忠诚和荣誉......在和平时期......它被戴在主教的权杖或国王的权杖(132 -133)。

    新户部娴熟的操作使日本最“野蛮”的风俗也显得庄重和崇敬。 作者对基督教和西方文化的执着和了解,使他能够打着史实的幌子打造宣传工具。 新户部希望《武士道:日本之魂》能够改变西方对日本的看法,提升日本在世界眼中的地位。

  6. 武士精神的最终陈述是非凡的书 Hagakure - 我向所有人推荐 - 这是一位退休的武士出身的僧侣山本常本的回忆录。

    只是一种感觉,但无论如何,让我瞥一眼时代 淘金热之后:

    好吧,我梦见我看到穿着盔甲的骑士过来说些什么
    女王
    有农民唱歌,有鼓手击鼓,弓箭手分裂
    那个树

  7. Brabantian 说:
    @Victor

    Guillaume Durocher 提到古印度的《博伽梵歌》的方式并没有错——是的,它很短,是一部更大作品的一部分,但它本身就是一部史诗

    当之无愧的有史以来最伟大的精神文本之一......告诉神圣有很多方式,而不是犹太化的亚伯拉罕所声称的“单一方式”......如果你认为你可以真正“杀死”,那是一种幻觉,或者“被杀”……没有人真正死去……所以没有必要放弃做正确和最好的事情的勇气

    10分钟后,短视频版《薄伽梵歌》……设定是一位伟大的战士在战斗前对生命的怀疑……他的车夫原来是上帝的化身之一,然后他华丽地停止并冻结了时间本身,以便向战士和我们所有人解释生活的全部内容......“战争时期克里希纳的顾问”

  8. 纪尧姆的另一个铃声!

    如今的德国人民对他们迄今所拥有的宗教已不再满意。 但是,能够完全满足德国人民需求的新宗教尚未诞生。 因此,直到出现一种新的民族宗教,他们还是不得不依靠他们迄今为止所拥有的宗教。 希特勒青年团采取同样的立场。

    搞笑:我也是。

    弗里德里希·尼采(Friedrich Nietzsche)对基督教作为一种受犹太人启发的奴隶宗教的批判——强调温顺、谦逊、不幸者的正义以及换句话说的救赎——在第三帝国广为流行。

    虽然尼采指责基督教推动奴隶道德固然是事实,但他并没有将这一事实归咎于犹太人,在他职业生涯的大部分时间里,他都是犹太人的崇拜者。 (后一个事实让尼采的民族社会主义读者感到非常尴尬,他们提出了各种“解释性”的补救措施,以从他的文本中删除这些冒犯性的、亲犹太人的段落。)

    • 回复: @Guillaume Durocher
    , @anon
    , @mh505
  9. @El Dato

    我对武士的真实历史记录感兴趣,而不是浪漫化和基本的叙述。 你有什么建议吗?

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Alden
  10. @Digital Samizdat

    你说的“铃声”是什么意思?

    回复:尼采:我的理解是尼采 *做* 将基督教归咎于犹太人,但这只是犹太人欺骗和不道德的超人的更多证据(对他来说是件好事)。

    • 回复: @4891
    , @Digital Samizdat
  11. @Lars Porsena

    这些印裔伊朗人不也是印欧人吗? 印度-伊朗语族被认为是印欧语系的一个分支,这意味着印度-伊朗人是印欧语系。 绳器文化和北欧牧民也可能被认为是印欧文化。

    印度伊朗语是印欧语的一个语言分支,因此印欧人不是雅利安人,因为他们的语言和遗传结构早于这个词。 雅利安同源词形成于 IE 视界之外,是在印度伊朗人出现之后。 更重要的是,印欧人和印度伊朗人之间存在遗传差异,即东部狩猎采集者 Y-DNA 单倍群 R1a 在早期印度伊朗人中的普遍存在,这在所有早期印欧人和原始印欧人样本中都不存在; 以及高加索 mtDNA 单倍群 T 和 W6 的优势。

    如果这是真的,那么爱尔兰的 Ire 也是雅利安人的衍生物,就像伊朗一样,可能还有希腊的“英雄”,我可以找到一些在荷马之前提到的参考资料,将所有自由的希腊人称为战士。

    然而,雅利安这个词在政治上已经被砍掉了,因为它与纳粹主义有关,有利于“原始印欧人”。

    这是完全错误的。 从来没有任何学者将“雅利安人”与印欧人混为一谈。 大家一直都知道,“雅利安”是印度伊朗语的同源词,它一定是在中欧印欧化之后至少一千年才出现的。 至于 Corded Ware,它们在基因上与印度伊朗人 Sintashta 和 Andronovo 相似; 因为他们获得了 Y-DNA 单倍群 R1a,与早期的印欧人不同。

    至于希腊人,他们从波斯人以及像斯基泰人这样的完全印度-伊朗群体中获得了很大的文化影响,特别是在军事事务上,但不是由印度伊朗人创立的。 “爱尔兰”和“雅利安”之间的任何联系都是巧合,或者与凯尔特游牧民族对后来的斯基泰人的模仿有关,这是有据可查的。 甚至在现代语言学出现之前,爱尔兰人就试图通过一个“Fénnius Farsaid”将自己与斯基泰人联系起来:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goídel_Glas

    大量民族的名字据说与“雅利安人”相似——主要是模仿了大约在世界范围内令世界眼花缭乱的斯基泰人和类似斯基泰人的文化。 公元前800-0

    • 回复: @Malla
  12. 选择卐字符是一个很好的提示纳粹欣赏日本佛教

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  13. anon[329]• 免责声明 说:
    @Digital Samizdat

    > 推崇奴隶道德的基督教,他没有把这个事实归咎于犹太人

    什么?

    基督教起源于犹太人 并且只能理解为在这片土地上的成长,代表了对任何繁育、种族、特权道德的反运动:这是卓越的反雅利安宗教。 基督教——所有雅利安价值观的重估,chandala 价值观的胜利,向穷人和卑鄙者宣讲的福音,所有受压迫者、可怜人、失败者、不受欢迎的人的普遍反抗,反对“种族”:不朽的 chandala仇恨被伪装成爱的宗教。”

    尼采
    偶像的黄昏(第6章)

  14. mh505 说:
    @Digital Samizdat

    回复:尼采

    认为他是犹太人的“伟大崇拜者”是多么可鄙的胡说八道。 他有时所做的只是保护他们免受更罕见的反犹太主义事件的影响。
    你将不得不在 19 世纪的伟大思想家中——或任何其他的伟大思想家——中广泛地寻找犹太人的伟大崇拜者

  15. @Sam Coulton

    你为什么一直这样做? 请你停下来。

    当然,但有时几乎不可能根除错误的旧习惯(或短语——太阳升起)……

  16. @Diversity Heretic

    从文化的角度来看,您是正确的,但这也取决于来源和情况。 尤其是在东线,许多德军部队顽固地战斗至死,因为他们知道(向苏联或游击队)投降无异于自杀。 当战争后期要求志愿飞行员执行“kamakazi”型任务时,他们遇到的志愿者数量超过了可供使用的飞机数量(该计划从未付诸实施)。 然而,这些“自杀”志愿者中的许多人也经历了数十万德国平民的死亡,因为轰炸机舰队将城市夷为平地。 还有许多德国飞行员在燃料和弹药耗尽时用自杀式袭击盟军轰炸机的例子。 有趣的是,随着德国人越来越愿意牺牲自己,越来越多的日本士兵开始表现出投降的意愿,而不是为天皇而死。

    • 回复: @anonymous
    , @Anon
    , @S
  17. 4891 说:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    读了几本尼采的书,我的理解是尼采非常钦佩犹太教,并批评基督教将这种宗教扭曲为奴隶道德的宗教。 旧约中的上帝经常要求忠诚,在战争中表现出色,忠于特定的民族,并经常因背叛祂的法律而对祂的子民发怒。 新约的神是普世论者,更注重和平与爱、克己和苦行。 更糟糕的是,相当大一部分基督教信徒显然是出于怨恨,许多圣徒和神父幻想地狱中的苦难的段落访问了那些沉迷于激情并比神父拥有更多快乐生活的人。 对尼采的怨恨或多或少是万恶之源,正如他关于鹰和羔羊的寓言所解释的那样,他认为基督教深受这种情绪的影响,以及推翻事物自然秩序的邪恶愿望。 据我所知,尼采没有将这归咎于犹太人。 他似乎将基督教视为非法的分支。 正如许多人在这里所说的那样,尼采是相当哲学闪族的,这对于试图宣扬他的思想的纳粹德国来说是不方便的。 尼采没有将基督教归咎于犹太人,他对犹太教的评价高于基督教

    • 回复: @Bookish1
  18. AaronB 说:

    尼采对犹太人的态度很复杂——

    1)他对犹太族群有着坚定不移的钦佩。 他形容它拥有世界上任何一个群体中最坚韧的权力意志,并提倡将欧洲血统与犹太人血统混合以加强欧洲种族,并增加其智力。

    2)他反对任何形式的反犹太主义。 他认为将犹太人归咎于成功的竞争者并像所有群体一样简单地追求自己的利益是愚蠢和肤浅的,他认为现在是打造一个新的欧洲人的时候了,犹太人将成为其中的宝贵元素。

    因此,指责犹太人像欧洲人那样成功地追求自身利益不仅是愚蠢的,而且在历史的这个时刻,当任务是创造一个新的欧洲人时,它会适得其反。

    他主要对反犹太主义的表面“愚蠢”感到愤怒。

    3) 他毫无保留地钦佩旧约,认为它优于希腊和印度文学。

    4) 然而,他认为犹太人在侨民中获得了一些不健康的特征,但它们是肤浅的。 他认为一旦失去土地,他们作为一个国家继续作为一个国家是不自然和不健康的,但这也证明了他们的权力意志。

    5)虽然他明确区分了犹太教和基督教,但他确实认为基督教是犹太人对那些强迫他们离开自己土地的人的一种无意识的报复阴谋——也许是犹太阴谋论的祖父,完全疯了。

    尼采是典型的欧洲颓废派,他也承认这一点。 他是一个很好的例子,说明欧洲主要思想家在 19 世纪后期变得多么悲观和自恨——他对德国人的蔑视和仇恨是众所周知的——他对犹太人的钦佩可以被视为看到 alt 的仇外主义的早期阶段今天,右派也崇拜亚洲人和犹太人,而左派则崇拜黑人和棕色人种。

    他被困在唯物主义和科学的世界观中——因此他无法理解犹太人的自信和高绩效更多的是他们保留了欧洲人正在迅速失去的启蒙运动前思维模式(灵性)的产物,而不是“繁殖” ”。

    所以一个有趣的思想家,但早期的颓废,根本不是恢复健康的指南。

    • 回复: @neutral
  19. anonymous[145]• 免责声明 说:
    @ClassicBenz

    有趣的是,随着德国人越来越愿意牺牲自己,越来越多的日本士兵开始表现出投降的意愿,而不是为天皇而死。

    不太确定。 在战争的最后几个月,德军在东线投降了数十万人,而在整个战争过程中(在天皇 15 月 35 日投降令之前)俘虏的日本战俘总数约为 40-XNUMXk .

    • 同意: tamo
  20. @Guillaume Durocher

    “铃声”是直接命中。 它来自马鞋游戏。 不用担心:这是一种恭维!

    是的,尼采承认基督教源自犹太教,这是他不喜欢基督教的众多原因之一:事实上,它只是抄袭了别人的宗教。 另一方面,犹太教相对独特, 自成一格. 然而,尽管他因此而尊重犹太教,但由于他自己不喜欢一神论,他在哲学上仍然不同意它。

    其他一些评论者认为尼采实际上是反犹太主义的。 在他的早期时期也是如此,当时他深受瓦格纳的影响。 但他后来的作品完全不是这样,当时他完全喜欢 Lou Salomé。

  21. Bliss 说:

    日本本土和德国本土的游客都同意,禅宗为日本的精神力量和文化丰富性奠定了很大的基础。

    种族主义纳粹难道不知道禅宗是由黑人达摩创立的吗?

    • 哈哈: tamo
  22. Bliss 说:
    @El Dato

    在驯服武士的过程中,新户部甚至以基督教习俗为幌子证明了他们最野蛮的属性——切腹(也称为 harakiri 或仪式自杀)和剑。 而这一切都始于灵魂。 新户部宣称,在西方和日本的习俗中,灵魂都被安置在胃里。 “他们(《圣经》中的约瑟夫、大卫、以赛亚和耶利米)都赞同日本人普遍认为腹部供奉着灵魂的信仰” (113)。

    纳粹愚蠢到相信这种胡说八道? 这种迟钝的日本人信仰与禅有什么关系?

    怎么会有人诚实地相信佛陀宽恕暴力? 以下是佛陀实际教导的内容(注意与耶稣教导的相似之处):

    仇恨不会因仇恨而停止,而只会因爱而停止。 这是古法。

    和平来自内心。 不要没有寻求它。

    都怕暴力,都怕死。 看到与自己相似,不应使用暴力或使用暴力。

    真正的大师生活在真理中,善良和克制,非暴力,中庸和纯洁。

  23. @Bliss

    FWIW,尚不清楚达摩是来自印度还是波斯。 无论哪种方式,他都是高加索人(正如东亚艺术热衷于表达的那样),尽管他的肤色和雅利安血统程度尚不清楚。

    • 回复: @Bliss
  24. @Bliss

    在整个大乘传统中,包括禅宗和禅宗,都存在对某种超然暴力的认可。 布赖恩·维多利亚(Brian Victoria)说乔达摩佛陀将非暴力作为佛教的基本原则,在此基础上辩称,长期以来,禅/禅实际上并不是“真正的佛教”,而是一种变态。 一个大胆的提议。

    似乎古老的巴利经文——一个庞大的语料库——在这个问题上并没有那么明确。 见史蒂芬詹金斯:“根据 Ārya-Bodhisattva-gocara-upāyaviṣaya-vikurvaṇa-nirdeśa Sūtra 通过战争和折磨获得功德”:

    在这里,一名武装保镖陪伴着佛陀,威胁要摧毁那些冒犯他的人。 酷刑可以是同情的表达。 可以鼓励死刑。 防弹衣和护臂是慈悲力量最重要的隐喻和象征。天界菩萨,觉悟慈悲力量的神圣化身,支持征服运动以传播佛教的影响,以及拥有佛法承诺的国王对耆那教徒和印度教徒的大规模暴力。

    然而,詹金斯指出,佛教经典并不像印度教经典那样频繁地支持暴力。 总的来说,我会说古希腊哲学/宗教和印度教都比佛教更具生命政治性,尽管佛教,特别是禅宗在获得纯粹洞察力方面非常高尚。

    • 回复: @Bliss
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  25. @mh505

    相反,安德鲁·乔伊斯博士合理地得出结论,尼采是一个昔日的反犹太主义者,尤其是在 1870 年代,为了获得影响力和地位,他表现得越来越多的哲学犹太主义

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/10/27/reply-to-jordan-peterson-on-the-jewish-question-from-his-heroes-part-four-nietzsche/

  26. neutral 说:

    对于白人来说,基督教绝对是错误的宗教。 所有现代的疯狂信仰,如种族平等、民主、LGBABCQWEXYZ123,都直接源自基督教思想。 如果基督教没有强加给白人,那么黑人与我们平等或犹太人统治就不会发生这种荒谬的事。

  27. neutral 说:
    @AaronB

    看到今天的另类权利也崇拜亚洲人和犹太人

    究竟谁在另类右翼崇拜犹太人?

  28. JackOH 说:

    纪尧姆,谢谢,你在这里做出了一些非凡的贡献。

    我想我是那些相信如果我们要了解西方人民如何让极度士气低落的政治感染政治体的笨蛋之一,我们必须回到 1914 年至 1945 年期间,并在可能的情况下尝试重新评估。

    我听说二战后一些德国人用“灵性”来正面指代国家社会主义 比如说,联邦共和国的消费主义和个人主义。 我认为“灵性”或多或少意味着社区政治或民族团结,其中种族或国籍的考虑至少是一角。 不幸的是,国家社会主义的美好部分已被埋葬。

    我已经提到了那次安葬的不利方面。 由不关心人民的公司赚钱者进行治理,并且有足够的技能来操纵选民的不满来为他们的利益服务。

    • 回复: @Jake
  29. 关于文章中提到的希特勒青年
    [1],第 151 页:
    “在朋友服务委员会,菲尔比的反共右翼法西斯主义和罗素的‘左翼’法西斯主义相遇了。 朋友服务委员会是第一个建立真正的奴隶劳改营的组织。 集中营的口号——喜悦中的力量——被纳粹采用并与其他口号一起在奥斯威辛的入口处大肆宣扬,如工作创造自由。 通过他们的柏林中心,美国朋友服务委员会发起了一项青年运动项目,该项目在 1920 年代已经招募了 300,000 名德国青年参加工作营劳动项目。 纳粹上台后,他们接管了这个机构,并将其称为希特勒青年运动。 在整个二战期间,贵格会继续为其配备人员”
    另一个引述,在 p150

    [更多]

    “菲尔比在 1933.40 年离开剑桥时在奥地利的伯特兰·罗素之友服务委员会救援行动开始了他的情报生涯。智力。
    特别是在和平时期,英国人倾向于通过私人情报网络开展工作,时至今日,这些救援和和平主义网络仍然是英国秘密情报局恐怖行动的核心。 ”
    [1]:新黑暗时代的阴谋:英国破坏文明的阴谋(1980),卡罗尔·怀特着
    (Lyndon Larouche 在 1978-79 年委托的书)
    ....
    至于救援组织和间谍活动的联系,请考虑以下来自 [2], p28 的无辜声明:
    “英国和美国贵格会救济组织高度重视有关希特勒统治下国家局势的可靠信息,以了解哪里需要帮助以及如何提供帮助。 因此,《老友记》多次从英国和美国来到德国,提供极具启发性且回顾历史的有用报告。 ”

    [2]:安静的帮手——战后德国的贵格会服务,Achim von Borries 由 Peter Daniels 编辑,根据 John & Cathy Cary 和 Hildegard Wright 的翻译
    贵格会家服务与美国友人服务委员会联合出版 2000 年 XNUMX 月
    从下面的目录中可以看出,仅提及战后德国是误导性的
    II 德国 1920-1950
    -帮助被征服者
    -1933 年:贵格会——“一线希望”
    - 9 年 1938 月 XNUMX 日之后
    -在第二次世界大战中
    .....
    我自动将上述建议的联系(来自 [1])与第一次世界大战期间比利时救援的帐户相关联,该组织也被英国用于间谍活动
    “[著名护理教师] 伊迪丝 [卡维尔] 活跃在地下和间谍网络中,其中包括遣返滞留在敌后的士兵”
    [3] 第 18 章,第 259 页
    Jim Macgregor 和 Gerry Docherty,延长痛苦,英美机构如何故意将第一次世界大战延长三年半(1917,1918)

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
    , @utu
    , @Logan
  30. @neutral

    这确实是胡说八道,但它不断地鹦鹉学舌。 如果基督教——或者更具体地说,天主教基督教——是犹太人的创造物,那么为什么犹太人会花费如此多的时间、金钱和精力通过共济会和直接渗透教会来颠覆天主教会与犹太特工? 毕竟,卡巴拉的那个孩子共济会曾无数次宣称,它最痛恨的敌人,它所有工作的目标,是天主教会。 (这甚至没有提到塔木德对耶稣基督历史人物的蔑视和仇恨)

    变得真实。 严格的反基督教/反天主教立场绝对没有逻辑。 遵循这条路线的异议人士无法了解真实情况。

    任何花时间研究基督教历史的人都会立即打折扣。

  31. 我之前遇到过对布赖恩维多利亚的批评,他是最糟糕的文化挪用美国人。 对西方衰败的宗教不满,他接受了异国情调的东方信条,并立即试图将其转变为他不知不觉想要的完美伪基督教。

    他无休止的(和政治化的)说教与禅完全格格不入,禅的当务之急是毫不犹豫地做你必须做的……如果他挡住你的路,甚至在必要时杀死佛陀。 与真正的新教徒相呼应,善良的维多利亚先生是发现真正禅宗的天才,他会指出几个世纪以来大乘佛教的错误,因为他知道什么是真正的信仰。

    耻辱在于认可他为牧师的机构,因为像禅宗这样的学校确实需要标准。

    • 同意: utu
  32. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    这确实是胡说八道,但它不断地鹦鹉学舌。 如果基督教——或者更具体地说,天主教基督教——是犹太人的创造物,那么为什么犹太人会花费如此多的时间、金钱和精力通过共济会和直接渗透教会来颠覆天主教会与犹太特工?

    你可以争论它到底是什么时候发生的,但确实看起来当代西方基督教(包括天主教)在很大程度上或完全由犹太人控制,而且它现在被用来推动反白人议程。

  33. Bliss 说:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    目前尚不清楚达摩是来自印度还是波斯。 无论哪种方式,他都是高加索人(正如东亚艺术热衷于表达的那样),尽管他的肤色和雅利安血统程度尚不清楚。

    哈哈。 可悲的是,你们如此执着于粉饰历史。 供您参考,佛教是印度宗教。 在阿拉伯人征服并皈依他们之前,波斯的宗教是琐罗亚斯德教。

    禅宗/禅宗经文将达摩描述为来自南印度的黑皮肤僧侣。

    http://www.drbachinese.org/vbs/publish/2/vbs2p002.htm

    “他就是你刚刚打掉牙齿的那个黑脸比丘。”

  34. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    禅宗/禅宗经文将达摩描述为来自南印度的黑皮肤僧侣。

    白种人。

  35. Malla 说:
    @Sam Coulton

    大量民族的名字据说与“雅利安人”相似——主要是模仿了大约在世界范围内令世界眼花缭乱的斯基泰人和类似斯基泰人的文化。 公元前800-0

    这一切都很好,但斯基泰人看起来很欧洲。

  36. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    供您参考,佛教是印度宗教。

    佛陀在斯基泰人中被称为 Sakyamuni、Sakya 或 Sacas,而 Muni 的意思是圣人/隐士。

    斯基泰人是金发/红发蓝眼睛白人

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

    “在艺术作品中,斯基泰人被描绘成表现出欧洲特征。[128] 在历史中,5 世纪的希腊历史学家希罗多德将斯基提亚的布迪尼描述为红发灰眼。 [128] 在公元前 5 世纪,希腊医生希波克拉底认为斯基泰人有 purron(红润)皮肤。 [128] [129] 在公元前 3 世纪,希腊诗人 Callimachus 将 Scythia 的 Arismapes (Arimaspi) 描述为金发。 [128] [130] 公元前 2 世纪的汉族使节张骞将赛人(斯基泰人)描述为黄色(可能意味着淡褐色或绿色)和蓝色的眼睛。 [128] 在自然历史中,公元 1 世纪的罗马作家老普林尼将赛瑞斯(有时被确定为伊朗人(斯基泰人)或吐火罗人)描述为红头发和蓝眼睛。 [128] [131] 在公元 2 世纪后期,亚历山大的基督教神学家克莱门特说斯基泰人是金发。[128][132] 2 世纪的希腊哲学家波莱蒙包括北方民族中的斯基泰人,他们的特点是红头发蓝灰色眼睛。[128] 在公元 2 世纪末或 3 世纪初,希腊医生盖伦宣称萨尔马提亚人、斯基泰人和其他北方人的头发是红色的。 [128] [133] 四世纪的罗马历史学家阿米亚努斯·马塞利努斯写道,阿兰人是一个与斯基泰人关系密切的民族,他们身材高大,金发碧眼,目光浅浅。 [134] Nyssa 的 Nyssa Gregory 的 4 世纪主教写道,斯基泰人皮肤白皙,金发。 [135] 5 世纪的医生阿达曼提乌斯 (Adamantius) 经常跟随波莱蒙 (Polemon),描述斯基泰人是金发。”

    他们中的一些人统治印度并在印度定居为皇家刹帝利

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Scythians

    佛的身体特征

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_characteristics_of_the_Buddha

    特征29:深蓝色的眼睛

    您将在此处获得有关它的更多详细信息

    http://thaimangoes.blogspot.in/2009/08/h9.html

    • 回复: @Bliss
    , @Bliss
  37. Bliss 说:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    似乎古老的巴利经文——一个庞大的语料库——在这个问题上并没有那么明确。 见史蒂芬詹金斯:“根据 Ārya-Bodhisattva-gocara-upāyaviṣaya-vikurvaṇa-nirdeśa Sūtra 通过战争和折磨获得功德”:

    这看起来很腥。 没听说过这样的经。 佛陀教导非暴力。 每个人都知道这一点。 这就是为什么即使是黑皮肤的禅宗祖师达摩在中国传授弟子的功夫也具有防御性非暴力性质。 日本人的所作所为,模仿英国和其他西方帝国,入侵中国并杀害了数百万中国人,这与佛陀的教义背道而驰。

    是的,与佛教不同,印度教不仅仅关乎涅槃/解脱。 而且,令人惊讶的是,至少对我而言,印度教在日本文化中有着深厚的根基。 以下视频估计神道教中大约 80% 的神灵都来自印度教:

    • 回复: @Logan
    , @ia
  38. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    佛陀在斯基泰人中被称为 Sakyamuni、Sakya 或 Sacas,而 Muni 的意思是圣人/隐士。

    斯基泰人是金发/红发蓝眼睛白人

    对这个奴性的印度人哈哈大笑。

    不幸的是,对于你的奴性妄想,佛陀被描述为有一头卷曲的黑发。

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  39. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    佛陀在斯基泰人中被称为释迦牟尼、萨迦或萨卡斯…….斯基泰人是金发/红发蓝眼睛的白人……..他们中的一些人统治印度并以皇家刹帝利的身份定居印度

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Scythians

    黑皮肤“白种人”印度纳粹的典型白痴。 从链接:

    印度斯基泰人是一群游牧民族 伊朗人民 萨卡和斯基泰人的起源 他们向南迁移到南亚西部和北部 (粟特、巴克特里亚、阿拉霍西亚、犍陀罗、信德、克什米尔、旁遮普、哈里亚纳邦、北方邦、拉贾斯坦邦、古吉拉特邦和马哈拉施特拉邦) 公元前2世纪中叶至公元4世纪…….南亚的第一位萨卡国王是Maue​​s / Moga(公元前1世纪),他在犍陀罗和印度河流域建立了萨卡政权。

    尽管佛陀在斯基泰人到达印度之前已经活了好几个世纪,但你却声称佛陀是斯基泰人,这确实是智障。 此外,斯基泰人甚至没有到达佛陀居住的印度地区。 最重要的是,萨卡人是伊朗人,而不是蓝眼睛的金发女郎,他们的后代是印度西北部的低种姓农民贾特人。

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Sam Coulton
  40. @Bliss

    所以他不仅仅是一个和尚……他是一个康。

    • 回复: @Malla
  41. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    尽管佛陀在斯基泰人到达印度之前已经活了好几个世纪,但你却声称佛陀是斯基泰人,这确实是智障。 此外,斯基泰人甚至没有到达佛陀居住的印度地区。

    阅读我已将您链接到愚蠢朋克的页面。 几个世纪以前,Scythinas 已经在迁徙。 斯基泰人在梵文中被称为萨卡斯,佛陀是释迦牟尼或萨卡斯或斯基泰人的隐士。

    最重要的是,萨卡人是伊朗人,而不是蓝眼睛的金发女郎,他们的后裔构成了印度西北部的低种姓农民贾特人。

    学会阅读你愚蠢的朋克。 对斯基泰人的每一个描述都将他们描述为浅色的眼睛和浅色的头发。

    “在艺术品中,描绘了斯基泰人 展现欧洲特色.[128] 在《历史》中,5 世纪的希腊历史学家希罗多德将斯基泰的布迪尼描述为 红发灰眼.[128] 公元前 5 世纪,希腊医生希波克拉底认为,斯基泰人有urron(红润)皮肤.[128][129] 公元前 3 世纪,希腊诗人 Callimachus 将 Scythia 的 Arismapes (Arimaspi) 描述为 金发.[128][130] 公元前 2 世纪的汉族中国使者张骞将赛人(斯基泰人)描述为黄色(可能意味着淡褐色或绿色),并且 蓝眼睛。[128] 在自然历史中,公元 1 世纪的罗马作家老普林尼(Pliny the Elder)描述了 Seres,有时 被确定为伊朗人(斯基泰人)或吐火罗人,为红发蓝眼睛。[128][131] 在公元 2 世纪后期,亚历山大港的基督教神学家克莱门特说, 斯基泰人是金发.[128][132] 2 世纪的希腊哲学家 Polemon 将斯基泰人包括在北方民族中,其特点是 红头发蓝灰色的眼睛.[128] 在公元 2 世纪末或 3 世纪初,希腊医生盖伦宣称: 萨尔马提亚人、斯基泰人和其他北方民族的头发呈红色.[128][133] 四世纪的罗马历史学家阿米安努斯·马尔切利努斯写道, 艾伦斯是一个与斯基泰人密切相关的民族,身材高大,金发碧眼,眼睛明亮。[134] 尼萨的尼萨·格雷戈里 4 世纪的主教写道,Scythians皮肤白皙,金发.[135] 5 世纪的医生阿达曼提乌斯 (Adamantius) 经常跟随波莱蒙 (Polemon 斯基泰人是金发设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

    • 回复: @Sam Coulton
    , @Anon
  42. Malla 说:
    @Kali Yuga Management Specialist

    大声笑......我们wuz佛陀和sheeeet。

  43. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    紧紧卷曲的黑发。

    是的,他有一头黑色的头发,但有一双蓝色的眼睛。

  44. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    他们的后代构成了印度西北部的低种姓农民贾茨。

    贾特人不是斯基泰人的唯一后裔,上层种姓拉杰普特人也有斯基泰人的血统。

    • 回复: @Bliss
  45. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    对这个奴性的印度人哈哈大笑。

    奴才???

    佛陀被描述为有一头卷曲的黑发。

    佛陀在许多地方也有蓝色的眼睛。

  46. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    https://thaimangoes.blogspot.com/2009/08/h9.html

    “另一个间接证据是在 Digha Nikaya [DN 1.90-95] 中发现的,它讲述了佛陀的人民,萨迦/斯基泰人的故事,他们是‘外国人’。 ”

    ……剪断……

    “1。 佛陀属于刹帝利(战士)种姓; 外来入侵者总是被婆罗门吸纳进这个种姓;

    2.佛陀拒绝种姓制度;

    3. 佛教将源自草原民族的动物图案引入印度:鹿或鹿,是佛陀在鹿园首次布道的象征; 马——佛陀作为出家者骑着他的马Kanthaka,从他父亲的宫殿里出来,这匹马立即被带到天堂投生于众神之中; 在 Barhut 和 Sanchi 佛塔等处用作图案的斯基泰鹰和狮鹫;
    佛陀第一次布道的浮雕面板,显示轮子和鹿的符号。巴基斯坦,犍陀罗古地区,大约公元 2 世纪。

    4. 尸体的火化和墓葬的竖立,或称佛塔(佛塔),这在印度以前是不为人知的。

    5. 国王所向往的转轮王或转轮征服世界的君主的佛教理想,这是从草原人民那里借来的概念,他们一定非常熟悉车轮和马车;

    6. mahapurusha 或伟人(佛陀是其中之一)的 32 个标志之一是他有蓝色的眼睛。 这表明佛陀是伊朗人/高加索人。”

    ……剪下……。

    “然而,[塞缪尔]比尔[西方世界佛教记录的中国古代译者]提出了[佛陀]是斯基泰人血统的观点。 他认为,这个种族的一个分支或氏族可能已经渗透到印度北部,就像当时的另一个亚述一样,佛陀是由这种血统诞生的,他是转轮王或轮王的后裔,即普遍的君主。 萨迦指示他死后的葬礼、尸体的火化,以及随后在印度各地竖起如此多的土堆或顶,他认为,所有这些都表明这位圣人的外国血统……但是这个方向很可能是后来的发明。 这当然与他众所周知的性格不相称,尤其是与他对身体的轻视,几乎是轻蔑的关系。 证据的分量似乎完全支持他是雅利安种族和萨迦家族的观点。”

    ……剪断……

    “来自印度帝国:它的人民、历史和产品,威廉·威尔逊·亨特(William Wilson Hunter)(19 世纪出版)。

    有迹象表明,大约在公元前 625 年横扫亚洲的斯基泰部落的一个分支前往印度河上的帕塔拉,这是亚历山大在公元前 325 年在该三角洲选择的武器地点,长期以来一直是信德省的首府以海达拉巴德的名义。 这些帕塔拉斯基泰人中的一部分似乎已经通过波斯湾向西移动到亚述; 另一部分应该是在东北方向进入恒河谷,并分支到迦毗罗卫士的释迦牟尼,佛陀就在其中出生。

    在基督教时代之前的 126 年里,斯基泰运动更加清晰地出现在人们的视野中,在基督之后的第一世纪,这些运动在印度的伟大主权中达到顶峰。 大约在公元前 XNUMX 年,据说苏鞑靼部落征服了希腊大夏王朝,旁遮普的希腊-巴克特里亚定居点被图奇 [月智] 推翻。”

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Bliss
  47. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    进一步

    “某些学者认为,即使在佛陀时代之前,印度的宗教中就已经存在斯基泰起源的遗物。 有人认为,Asvamedha 或 Great Horse Sacrifice 至少在其某些发展中是基于 Scythic 的思想。 “实际上,”爱德华·托马斯先生写道,“这是一场军事挑战,其中包括让将在年底加冕帝国胜利的受害者自由地在地球表面随意游荡; 它的赞助者有义务跟随它的脚步,征服或安抚它经过其领土的酋长。 在他看来,这样的原型似乎掩盖了中亚骑手阶层的生活,“其中一匹被俘的骏马经常被从一个营地追踪到另一个营地,最终投降或为之而战。” 人们经常注意到印度前佛教宗教的马祭祀和人祭祀之间的奇怪联系。 从印度人的角度来看,这种联系是通过用马代替人类受害者的理论来解释的。”
    ……剪断……
    “萨卡保留了他们的一些动物艺术,但月杰放弃了他们的。 从黑海到蒙古,包括中亚,从公元前 8 世纪以前起,该地区被游牧的草原部落占领,其中许多在文化上和可能在种族上与东伊朗人(即他们是印度-雅利安人)有关。 许多人属于萨卡集团。 占据黑海以北地区的人被公元前 8 世纪的希腊人称为斯基泰人,阿尔泰山脉以西的人被公元前 6 世纪前的波斯人称为萨卡人,而山脉以东的人,为了今天的方便,被称为萨卡人-西伯利亚。 公元前2世纪之前,在中国西北边境和塔里木盆地地区有月杰人,也可能是与萨卡人有关的印度-雅利安人。 他们与萨卡人一起被突厥人匈奴人驱赶。 大约公元前 2000 年的印度-雅利安人和萨卡族是这项工作中最重要的草原游牧民族。

    首先,这是因为公元前 2000 年的印度-雅利安人将草原游牧民族所持的吠陀宗教基本概念与印度万物有灵论一起带到了印度,从而导致了印度教和佛教。 其次,是因为萨卡族的部落或与之相关的部落从公元前2000年开始多次入侵印度,因此从他们在印度建立的王国和共和国传播了他们的文化,从而导致了石造动物艺术在印度的开花。公元前2世纪。 ”

    • 回复: @Malla
  48. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    我们进一步阅读

    “在他们的迁徙过程中,他们驱赶了前面的一部分萨卡人,这些人在印度西部定居,然后暂时将势力范围扩展到贵霜以南的印度东部。 值得注意的是,“萨卡”一词在印度和缅甸以各种形式存在。 Sakka是Indra的另一个名字,Indo-Aryan和印度教神。 萨卡是斯基泰人所在的部落群的名称。 Sakas,“雄鹿的人”,与脉轮的动物象征(万能的“转轮”君主)有关。 释迦牟尼佛是释迦牟尼,释迦的圣人。=

    ……剪下……。

    “在印度佛教的宇宙起源中,有 33 位神居住在须弥山的山顶上,其中因陀罗(萨卡)是国王。 在中亚,阿尔泰山区的人们信仰33天。 在公元前 7 世纪的萨卡-西伯利亚图瓦人墓地,就在阿尔泰山脉的东边,酋长的陵墓包括一个巨大的中央土墩,周围是 44 米外的石墙。 如此形成的环由 32 根径向辐条分隔成多个部分,这些辐条由刻有马匹的石头制成。 这是太阳神殿。 32 的数目也表现为转轮王的身体标记数目。 似乎有充分的理由认为,转轮王的 32 个领地源自印度-雅利安人的太阳崇拜,并通过萨卡河到达缅甸。

    大约公元前 2000 年,雅利安人入侵波斯和印度,引入了吠陀宗教。 雅利安人和萨卡/斯基泰人(太阳和蛇的崇拜者)的后裔可能在公元前 700 年之前成为盟友,萨卡人被称为“蛇”或纳迦种族,而纳迦本身成为婆罗门教最重要的伙伴之一、 印度教和佛教万神殿。 根据印度往世书,释迦牟尼佛起源于 Iskshvahu 的太阳种族,在他的苦行生活开始时,他受到龙王的保护。 乔达摩自己的萨迦部落的坟墓,挖掘于 19 世纪,每座坟墓都包含一个龙的肖像。”

    ……剪断……

    “在整个中亚和北亚萨满的狂喜技术中,数字七扮演着重要的角色,这最终是由于巴比伦的影响。 在他的服装上,尤拉克萨满可能有七个代表七位仙女的球。 也有七九个天界和地狱级的共同信仰,虽然很少,但最多出现 33 个。 在他的仪式中,阿尔泰萨满会爬上一棵树或一个有七、九级台阶的柱子,以象征他上升到最强大的那个。 这七个步骤类似于下面提到的佛陀的七个步骤,这个概念源自佛教的父母婆罗门教。 传说佛陀一出生就可以走路。 他朝着每个基点的方向走了七步,并声称拥有世界。 瓜达摩佛诞生七天后,他的母亲去世了。 佛陀成道后,每七日禅修三期。 在这些之后,他被蛇王穆卡琳达的七圈包裹,并忍受了连续七天的降雨。 七也象征马,是转轮王七宝之一。”

  49. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    在Kaniṣka之前,佛陀没有以人的形式代表。 在犍陀罗,大乘佛教盛行, 佛陀第一次以人的形象出现 ——正如古经中所描述的,一个高大的, 蓝眼睛的,卷曲的黑发,白皙到金色的皮肤皇室。

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Bliss
  50. @Peter Grafström

    在朋友服务委员会,菲尔比的反共右翼法西斯主义

    金菲尔比从来不是一个反共主义者,而是一个敬业和忠诚的共产主义者。

    罗素的“左”法西斯主义

    ??? 我从来不知道拉塞尔是莫斯利法西斯运动的左翼派系。

    因此,您引用的这位作者稍后将使用较新的定义重新定义旧概念。 我可以看到共产主义和法西斯主义之间有很多相似之处,但我怀疑菲尔比和拉塞尔是否同意,或者是否同意这样定义。

  51. Malla 说:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    我认为伊利诺伊大学厄巴纳分校退休古典学教授 Revilo P. Oliver 教授的这些书值得一读。

    http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/RPO_NewChrist/toc_ol.htm

    基督教的起源

    http://www.revilo-oliver.com/rpo/Reflections.html

    对基督神话的反思

    • 回复: @Seraphim
  52. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    佛祖是斯基泰人=SAKA理论及其证据ブッダの父亲はスキタイト人(=サカ)であった、その证拠と by Hiroshi Hayashi

  53. Curmudgeon 说:
    @The Company

    在铁器时代的北欧,在与奥丁有关的图像中发现了卐字符和它的短臂近亲 fylfot。

    • 回复: @The Company
  54. Curmudgeon 说:

    这篇文章在“大师赛”的叙述中打了一个洞。

    然而,为了荣誉、真理和善而冒着生命危险是自荷马以来所有以英雄主义为基础的传统伦理的核心。

    希姆莱不熟悉的可能性很小 哈瓦玛 – 与日耳曼宗教相关的至高者的话(Wotan/Odin/Oðin)。
    75.
    牛死,亲人死,
    你自己必须死得太早,
    但我想,有一件事永远不会死去,——
    赢得了一个公平的名声。

    • 同意: Guillaume Durocher
    • 回复: @Wally
  55. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    https://thaimangoes.blogspot.com/2009/08/h9.html

    “另一个间接证据

    哈哈。 你真是个可悲的、自我厌恶的、想成为纳粹分子的人。 可以预见的是,您所引用的博客充满了刻板的北欧人种族幻想,这些幻想是由直到最近才被认为是野蛮人的人们,甚至是欧洲同胞,根据“间接证据”编造出来的。 北欧人可能是人类所有种族中最缺乏灵性的。 无论是佛教、印度教还是耆那教等印度精神,都将功劳归于他们是可笑的。北欧主义是名誉扫地的假历史和假科学,导致了数千万欧洲人的死亡,而你看起来像个彻头彻尾的可笑傻瓜宣传它,尤其是考虑到您的种族和肤色。 绝对无耻。

    你的白人至上主义假历史又名种族幻想的副标题:

    释迦牟尼佛是公元前 4 世纪居住在大犍陀罗的斯基泰人(萨卡),而不是人们普遍认为的尼泊尔泰莱吗?

    不,你躺在麻木的头骨上,佛陀在该地区的第一位萨卡国王(他生活在公元前 5 世纪而不是 4 世纪)之前,在远离犍陀罗(阿富汗/巴基斯坦)的地方生活和传教了许多世纪。

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Scythians

    南亚的第一位萨卡国王是 Maues/Moga(公元前 1 世纪),他在犍陀罗和印度河流域建立了萨卡政权。

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  56. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    紧紧卷曲的黑发是真的,红色或金色的头发是假的。 非白人北欧主义者先生明白了吗? 那种头发不配白皮肤蓝眼睛吗?

    佛陀的眼睛被描述为与克里希纳的皮肤相同的词,它是黑色的。 这使得地狱比蓝色更有意义,这与他的其他描述和他的印度种族不一致。

    在英国统治印度之前,克里希纳神像总是被漆成黑色。 在英国统治之后,印度教徒开始把他涂成蓝色(蓝黑色是这个词的另一种含义)。 在最近的雕像中,佛陀的眼睛似乎也发生了类似的事情,尽管他的头发仍然紧紧地卷曲,他的面部特征仍然是亚洲人(至少可以说这是一种不自然的组合)。

    顺便说一句,与其张贴雕刻时由印度-希腊人统治的犍陀罗地区的佛像,为什么不张贴佛像实际来自印度的佛像照片呢? 像这些:

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  57. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    哈哈。 你真是个可悲的,自我厌恶的纳粹分子。

    大声笑,你是什么? 你非洲中心主义印度人的崇拜者。 让印度人成为一种荣誉黑人,这样您就可以将我们的成就视为您自己的成就。 任何印度人一想到一个种族(撒哈拉以南非洲黑人)的祖先是生活在丛林中的原始部落,就会与我们建造宫殿、寺庙群和石头堡垒时的水平相同。 如果没有阿拉伯人和欧洲人的到来,你们的祖先仍然会半裸地围着原始的泥屋跑来跑去。 多么可怜!!!

    你引用的博客充满了从“间接证据”中炮制出来的刻板的北欧种族幻想

    这里没有幻想,只有逻辑和事实。 仅仅因为你不喜欢这些事实并不会使它们成为幻想。

    北欧人可能是人类所有种族中最不属灵的。

    这是我在 Unz 上读过的最愚蠢的评论之一。

    北欧主义是名誉扫地的假历史和假科学,导致数千万欧洲人死亡,

    这里没有什么“北欧主义者”。

    绝对无耻。

    哈哈,无耻的是你必须得到印度文化的支持,我的文化支持你的非洲中心主义无意识,因为不到一个世纪前,撒哈拉以南的黑人是这个星球上最原始的野蛮人。 那是无耻和可悲的。 哈哈

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  58. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    不,你躺在麻木的头骨上,佛陀在该地区的第一位萨卡国王(他生活在公元前 5 世纪而不是 4 世纪)之前,在远离犍陀罗(阿富汗/巴基斯坦)的地方生活和传教了许多世纪。

    早在公元前 1 世纪,斯基泰人就已经进入印度。 再次阅读博客。

  59. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    卷曲的黑色头发是真的,红色或金色的头发是假的

    我从来没有声称他有一头金发。 卷发并不意味着黑人头发。

    那种头发不配白皮肤蓝眼睛

    当然可以。

    佛陀的眼睛被描述为与克里希纳的皮肤相同的词,它是黑色的。

    不,你这个撒谎的小朋克。 你习惯于从你的屁股中制造你自己的“事实”。

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_characteristics_of_the_Buddha

    “传统上,佛陀被认为具有伟人的三十二种特征(梵文 mahāpuruṣa lakṣaṇa)。 [7] 这三十二个特征也被认为是存在于转轮王的身上。 [7]

    Digha Nikaya,在“标记的话语”(巴利文:Lakkhaṇa Sutta)(DN 30)中列举并解释了 32 个特征。 [2] 这些也在 Majjhima Nikāya 的 Brahmāyu Sutta (MN 91) 中列举。

    特征29:深蓝色的眼睛=

    在最近的雕像中,佛陀的眼睛似乎也发生了类似的事情,尽管他的头发仍然紧紧地卷曲,他的面部特征仍然是亚洲人(至少可以说这是一种不自然的组合)。

    你只是在胡说八道。 这与任何英国拉吉无关。

    而不是张贴来自犍陀罗地区的佛像

    新的 最早对佛陀的描绘来自犍陀罗地区. 您发布的偶像比犍陀罗雕像更可能远离真佛。

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  60. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    贾特人不是斯基泰人的唯一后裔,上层种姓拉杰普特人也有斯基泰人的血统。

    胡说八道。 你绝望地陷入了 19 世纪的殖民种族神话。

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajput

    最近的研究表明,拉杰普特人来自不同的种族和地理背景…………在 15 世纪之前,“拉杰普特人”一词还与混种姓的人有关,他们被认为在等级上低于“刹帝利”…… .....在其形成阶段,拉杰普特阶级具有相当的同化性,吸收了来自广泛血统的人们。 [16] 然而,到了 16 世纪后期,基于血统纯洁的思想,它的家谱已经变得僵化。 [21] 现在,拉杰普特阶级的成员身份在很大程度上是继承的,而不是通过军事成就获得的。

    仅从外表来看,拉杰普特大君(皇帝)看起来像典型的北印度人,而许多低种姓贾特人确实看起来像西亚人,尽管肤色较深:

    拉杰普特国王队:

    [更多]

    低种姓 Jat Scythian 农民:

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  61. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    北欧人可能是人类所有种族中最不属灵的。

    这个麻木的脑袋的愚蠢是无止境的。 他的非洲中心主义幻想导致肤浅肤浅的幼稚思维。

    出自奥托·韦宁格 (Otto Weininger) 的著作,他本人具有犹太血统。 他正在写雅利安人和犹太人之间的差异。

    由于女性没有真正的尊严,所以“绅士”一词在犹太人中并不存在。 真正的犹太人在这种与生俱来的良好教养中失败了,只有个人尊重自己的个性并尊重他人的个性。 没有犹太贵族,这更令人惊讶,因为犹太血统可以追溯到数千年前。

    熟悉的犹太人傲慢也有类似的解释; 它源于缺乏对自己的真正了解,以及随之而来的强烈需要,他觉得通过贬低他的同胞来增强自己的个性。 。 。 。

    犹太人种族的过错常常被归咎于雅利安人对该种族的镇压,许多基督徒在这方面仍然倾向于自责。 但这种自责是没有道理的。 外部环境不会将种族塑造成一个方向,除非在种族中存在对塑造力量作出反应的天生倾向; 总的结果至少与改变环境一样多地来自自然倾向。 . . .

    . . . 犹太人并不是真的反道德。 但是,尽管如此,他并不代表最高的道德类型。 他相当不道德,既不好也不坏。 . . .

    。 。 。 根据叔本华的定义,“上帝”一词表示创造世界的人。 这无疑是犹太人的上帝的真实形象。 关于人的神性,真正的犹太人一无所知。 因为基督和柏拉图、埃克哈德和保罗、歌德和康德、吠陀经的祭司和费希纳,以及每个雅利安人所说的神圣,因为那句话是什么意思,“我一直与你同在,直到世界尽头”——对于所有这些的意义,犹太人仍然不明白。 因为人里面的神是人的灵魂,而绝对的犹太人是没有灵魂的。

    [更多]

    因此,我们不可避免地在旧约中找不到相信不朽的痕迹。 没有灵魂的人不会渴望永生,女人和犹太人也是如此。

    . . . 犹太一神论与对上帝的真正信仰无关。 它不是理性的宗教,而是老妇人基于恐惧的信仰。

    为什么耶和华的犹太奴隶如此容易成为唯物主义者或自由思想者? 这只是奴隶制的替代阶段; 对不被理解的东西的傲慢是奴隶智慧的另一面。 当充分认识到犹太教被视为一种其他种族所共有的思想,而不是特定种族的绝对财产时,那么现代唯物科学中的犹太元素就会得到更好的理解。 瓦格纳在音乐中表现了犹太教; 关于现代科学中的犹太教,还有一些话要说。

    科学中的犹太教,在最广泛的解释中,是消除所有超验主义的努力。 雅利安人认为,试图抓住一切,把一切都归于某种推论体系,真的剥夺了事物的真正意义; 对他来说,无法被发现的才是赋予世界意义的东西。 犹太人并不害怕这些隐藏的和秘密的元素,因为他没有意识到它们的存在。 他试图将世界的看法尽可能地平淡和平凡,并拒绝看到事物的所有秘密和精神意义。 他的观点是非哲学的,而不是反哲学的。 . . .

    在雅利安人的情况下,男性的形而上学品质是他对女性的性吸引力的一部分,因此,在某种意义上,她穿上了这些。 另一方面,犹太人没有超然的品质,在塑造和塑造妻子的过程中,女性天性的自然倾向更不受阻碍; 因此,犹太妇女扮演着她所需要的角色,作为家庭主妇或宫女,作为 Cybele 或 Cyprian,以最充分的方式。

    那么,正如张伯伦所坚持的那样,犹太人所缺乏的并不是神秘主义,而是敬畏。 如果他只是一个诚实的唯物主义者或一个坦率的进化论者! 他不是批评家,而只是批评家; 他不是笛卡尔意义上的怀疑论者,不是从怀疑走向真理的怀疑者,而是反讽主义者; 例如,举个显眼的例子,海涅。

    那么,如果犹太人不是人所能成为的,那他是什么? 如果他完全没有确定性,如果他没有心理学的铅垂线可以到达的基础,他的内心会发生什么?

    犹太人头脑的心理内容总是双重或多重的。 在他面前总是有两种或多种可能性,尽管雅利安人的视野很广,但他觉得自己的选择有限。 我认为,犹太教的理念在于缺乏现实,缺乏与自在之物的任何基本关系。 可以说,他站在现实之外,却从未进入现实。 他永远无法使自己与任何事物合而为一——永远无法进入真正的关系。 他是一个没有热心的狂热者; 他在无限的、无条件的东西中没有份额。 他没有单纯的信仰,所以总是转向每一个新的解释,所以看起来比雅利安人更警觉。 内部的多样性是犹太教的本质,内部的简单是雅利安人的本质。

    我们的时代不仅是最犹太的,而且是最女性化的。 这是一个艺术满足于涂抹并在动物运动中寻求灵感的时代; 表面上的无政府状态,对正义和国家毫无感情; 一个共产主义伦理、最愚蠢的历史观点、唯物主义解释历史的时代; 资本主义和马克思主义的时代; 一个历史、生活和科学只不过是政治经济学和技术指导的时代:一个天才被认为是一种疯狂的时代; 一个没有伟大艺术家和伟大哲学家的时代; 一个没有独创性但对独创性最愚蠢的渴望的时代; 处女的崇拜已被半人间的崇拜所取代的时代。 这是结对不仅被批准而且被规定为义务的时候。

    但是从新的犹太教中可能会产生新的基督教; 人类等待宗教的新创始人,而在第一年,这个时代迫切需要做出决定。 必须在犹太教与基督教、商业与文化、男性与女性、种族与个人、无价值与价值、尘世与更高尚的生命、否定与上帝般的生命之间做出决定。 人类可以做出选择。 只有两极,没有中间道路。”

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  62. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    直到最近,甚至被欧洲同胞都认为是野蛮人。 北欧人可能是人类所有种族中最不属灵的。

    那你怎么解释这个?

    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2016/10/17/moslem-designation-of-the-vikings-as-majus-or-heathen-zoroastrians-and-the-maga-fellowship-of-zarathustra/

    穆斯林将维京人归类为 Majūs 或“异教琐罗亚斯德教徒”,因为他们认为他们非常像前伊斯兰伊朗/波斯的琐罗亚斯德教徒。

    Majūs,复数majūsī,来自希腊语Mágos μάγος,拉丁语Magus,是一个可以追溯到Avestan magá 的术语,指的是琐罗亚斯德教的萨满战士。

    在几乎所有的穆斯林记述中,提到维京人的开头都是这样一句话:“al-Majus(维京人/琐罗亚斯德教徒)——愿上帝诅咒他们!” 穆斯林特使将维京酋长/国王称为 malik al-majūs,将维京土地称为 bilād al-majūs。

    关于基督教化的维京人,穆斯林账户指出: 北欧人是 Majusi “琐罗亚斯德教的异教徒”,但他们现在信奉基督教信仰 dīn al-naṣranīya,并放弃了对火的崇拜和他们以前的宗教信仰,除了他们在海上的几个分散岛屿上的人。保持他们古老的 Majusi(琐罗亚斯德教)信仰。

    维京人的穆斯林记述包括 Al-Ghazal(8 世纪至 9 世纪,Al-Andalus)题为“维京人的使馆使命”,起源于 Ibn Hayyan 的 Al-Muqtabis fi tarikh al-Andalus(关于 Al 历史的收集知识) -安达卢斯。)

    穆斯林对维京人最广泛的描述是伊本法德兰(10 世纪,巴格达)所著。

    认为穆斯林将维京人归类为 Majusi “异教徒琐罗亚斯德教徒”只是身份错误的说法是极不可能的。 Majus 作为琐罗亚斯德教徒多次出现在圣训(归因于穆罕默德的词)中,一次出现在古兰经 22.17 中。 事实上,穆斯林在北欧人的新语境中使用 Majus 这个名称,证明他们非常清楚/意识到这个词的含义。

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  63. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    北欧宗教、波斯人和古代吠陀印度之间的更多相似之处

    闪亮的双生伊玛、吠陀阎魔和古北欧伊米尔
    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2014/12/10/the-shining-twin-yima-vedic-yama-and-old-norse-ymir/

    “伊玛是原始双胞胎,也是阿维斯塔冰河时代的英雄王。 Yima这个名字的意思是“双胞胎”,与拉丁语双子座有关。 Yima 的双重性质在 Avesta 中得到了很好的证明。 Yima 的叙述在 Vedic Yama 和 Old Norse Ymir 中都有相似之处。 然而,Avestan Yima 保留了原始印欧宇宙神话中原始孪生体的所有元素。”
    ....................................

    Frya 或歌中的爱,Old Norse Freya 和 Frigg
    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2017/03/06/frya-or-love-in-the-gathas-old-norse-freya-and-frigg/

    “在诗意的gathas中,fryá是“爱”的化身。 强烈的激情/爱在gathas 的神圣诗歌中表现为fryá、fryái 和fryö。 Fryán“可爱,自由”作为个人名字出现在 Yasna 46.12,gathic 歌曲的第二押韵诗行中。

    Avestan furá“可爱、亲爱和自由”与重建的原始日耳曼语 friyō“可爱”、古挪威语 frī“亲爱的”和古挪威语 Frigg(“奥丁/沃登的妻子”和吠陀 priyá)同源。

    现代波斯语 áfrin “祝福,神圣的恩惠”源自同一个古老的词根。 英国的工作日星期五以北欧女神弗里格和古高地德语弗里亚的名字命名,她在北方相当于维纳斯。 在 Rig Veda 1.46.1 中,美丽的黎明女神被称为 priyá。

    奥地利最著名的象征主义画家古斯塔夫·克里姆特 (Gustav Klimt) 的《芙蕾雅之泪》最能表达芙蕾雅在艺术中不朽的美丽和热爱。

    在北欧神话中,弗里格是爱的女神。 弗里格为博德生下了光的化身,他的死将引发一系列导致诸神黄昏或诸神黄昏的世界末日事件。”…………。

    水之神力 ahúrání 和北欧海神 ægir
    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2014/10/28/the-god-force-of-waters-ahurani-and-the-norse-sea-god-aegir/

    水的 Avestan 术语是 apö,将 apö 与立陶宛语中的 River uppe、Vedic ap 和拉丁语 aqua 进行比较。

    在琐罗亚斯德教的历法中,第八个月专门用于水域。每个琐罗亚斯德教月份的第十天也属于水域,因此八月的第十天,Ábán Máh(月份或月亮)的 Ábán Rooz(水域日)水),是称为 Ābānagān 的大水节。”

    ……剪断……

    “在 Yasna Haptaŋ-háiti 或七章 (Yasna 38.3) 水域被尊崇为ahúrání。 Ahúrání 这个名字来源于 Ahúrá(神力,古挪威语 æsir),带有女性后缀 –ání。 (与 tištryaæiní-“Tištrya 恒星附近的恒星”相比)

    因此,作为“Ahúrá(古挪威语 æsir)”或神力的女性养育方面(ahúrání)的水域与《梨俱吠陀》中的古挪威海神 Ægir 和 Varuṇānī 平行。 (也比较哥特语中的水、河流“ahua”)”

    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2014/02/10/vohu-mano-passion-spiritmind-and-the-old-norse-vili-and-ve/

    “创造,通过令人敬畏的、奇妙的精神/思想的力量表现出来。

    Khratü,吠陀 kratú 是精神/思想的力量,是自我表现的力量,是创造和工作的力量。 这就是“Geisteskraft”。 khratü 来自原始印欧语基地 kar-/ker,“拥有权力、带来、创造”。 希腊语 kratia “拥有权力,古英语 cræft 、荷兰语 kracht 、德语 Kraft 、冰岛语 kraftur 、古挪威语 kraptr 都来自同一个词根,最初的意思是“具有创造、产生、显现的力量。 它在 Yasna 40.1 中以 khrapat 的形式出现设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

    • 回复: @Malla
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  64. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    最不要脸的是你要得到印度文化的支持

    那真好笑。 现在这是你的文化? 当你照镜子时,你真的看到了一个白皮肤、蓝眼睛、金发的斯基泰人吗?

    顺便说一句,如果我想和你一起进入阴沟,我可以发布大量赤裸和饥饿的印度人的侮辱性照片。 你要我那样做吗?

    • 回复: @Malla
  65. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    我从来没有声称他有一头金发。

    你当时的这个主张是什么?

    佛陀在斯基泰人中被称为释迦牟尼、萨迦或萨卡斯,而穆尼则意味着圣人/隐士。 斯基泰人是金发/红头发蓝眼睛的白人

    顺便说一句,佛陀所属的释迦族在印度很古老。 与低种姓 Jats 的后裔 Sakas 无关。 声称 Shakyas = Sakas = Scythians = Nordics 就像声称爱尔兰人是雅利安人一样一厢情愿和无知,因为“Eire”听起来像“Arya”。

    你是一个严重受骗和不诚实的白痴,有严重的精神问题。 除了一个糟糕的工作,还有谁会把鸦片战争归咎于印第安人呢?

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    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  66. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    胡说八道。 你绝望地陷入了 19 世纪的殖民种族神话。

    这是来自 Rajput 网站。

    http://rajputana.htmlplanet.com/scy_raj/scy_raj1.html

    Mulchand Chauhan 拉杰普特种族的镰刀起源

    “大约在罗马帝国崩溃的时候,印度的西北部和西部处于斯基泰帝国的控制之下。 事实上,在罗马沦陷后的骚乱中活跃的许多部落似乎都是印度西部的统治者。 在其权力的顶峰时期,斯基特或萨卡王国从温迪亚斯延伸到阿克萨斯河,从波斯延伸到比哈尔邦。 几个世纪以来,他们在印度历史上发挥了重要作用。 这些主要崇拜太阳和琐罗亚斯德教的王国最终因婆罗门化而崩溃,曾经辉煌的萨卡王朝在婆罗门的枷锁下被粉碎。 婆罗门化导致这些民族的斯基泰遗产遭到破坏,他们的纳斯蒂克(非吠陀)太阳崇拜宗教被淹没在婆罗门教的海洋中。”

    斯基泰人与一些皮肤黝黑的比尔妇女通婚,因此今天许多人都是黑人。


    https://www.dailyo.in/politics/mallikarjun-kharge-aryans-vedic-age-dravidians-scythians-saka-east-india-company-adivasis-hindu-muslim/story/1/7636.html

    “伊斯兰教进入印度只是一个明显的标志,对于较早甚至在伊斯兰教征服之前迁移的人民也有类似的存量。 例如,那个伟大的拉杰普特氏族,西索迪亚斯是斯基泰人的血统,历史学家的名字来源于萨珊王朝。 正如 Jat 源自 Gatae,Ahir 源自 Avar,Gujar 源自 Khazar,Thakur 源自 Tukharian。 Scythian 或 Saka 部落是最后一批进入印度的前伊斯兰移民。 一些人通过博兰山口进入平原,定居在拉贾斯坦邦,这就是为什么一些拉杰普特、古杰尔和贾特氏族,如 Pawar、Chauhan、Rathi、Sial 和其他人现在声称从那里下降,而其他人如 Mann、Gill、Bajwa、Bhullar , Sandhu 和其他通过开伯尔山口的人声称是阿富汗的后裔。”

    这里有一些拉杰普特人的照片

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQlboopZ3SFhOlVQyl8xa_moNCX28XBxPxUZbe3ro3_Zvk68zoWTw

    不要看起来和Jats有那么大的不同。

  67. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    现在这是你的文化?

    我是印度人。 这是我的文化。 你是外国人。

    当你照镜子时,你真的看到了一个白皮肤、蓝眼睛、金发的斯基泰人吗?

    当你照镜子时,你看到一个低智商的傻瓜吗? 你当然知道。 印度人是由许多种族混合而成的。

    顺便说一句,我可以发布大量赤裸和饥饿的印度人的侮辱性照片

    你真的是个白痴,不是吗。 这不是关于饥饿的非洲人或饥饿的印度人,而是我们拥有自己文明的印度人与一个世纪前还是原始野蛮人的撒哈拉以南非洲人之间的区别。 因此,像你这样的非洲中心主义者偷偷地试图拥有我们的文化和文明,以传播你病态的疯狂意识形态。

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  68. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    雅利安宗教之间的更多相似之处

    Avestan Druj “扭曲、破坏、谎言”,古波斯语 Drauga 和古北欧 Draugr
    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2016/08/22/avestan-druj-distortion-devastation-lie-old-persian-drauga-and-old-norse-draugr/

    Drûj 代表“扭曲、破坏和折磨”。 它是宇宙秩序的对手,是马兹德二元论的基础,在“宇宙秩序/真理”ašá/arthá和“扭曲,谎言”drûj之间的双重对抗中。

    Drûj 在诗意的偈颂中被证实了 18 次。 它以 drûḵš 的形式出现一次,以 drûj 的形式出现 18 次。 gathas 中的形容词 dreg.váv 和/或 dreg.vant 是一个派生词,意思是“drûj 的追随者/党派、欺骗者、扭曲者、骗子!”

    Avestan drûj 与吠陀 druh“破坏、折磨恶魔”、原始日耳曼语 draugaz“扭曲、谎言”、冰岛语 drɑuɣr̩“幽灵、吸血鬼”、古挪威语 draugr“阴影、幻影”、德国 Trug“欺诈、欺骗”以及波斯语 dorūġ “谎言”。

    在北欧神话中,draugr 是对生物造成严重破坏的不死人物。 Draugr 带有明显的腐烂恶臭,看起来像一具尸体,肿胀,变黑,看起来很丑陋。 古诺尔斯语对 draugr 的描述非常让人想起 Avestan nasü drûj “腐烂/躺在死灵/nasü 或死物,尸体中”,在 Avestan 纯度文本中经常提到!

    古老的琐罗亚斯德教中春节,凯尔特贝尔坦和德国女巫之夜 Hexennacht,
    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2018/05/08/the-ancient-zoroastrian-mid-spring-festival-celtic-beltane-and-the-german-witches-night-hexennacht/

    Avestan payan“牛奶”与立陶宛pienas、拉脱维亚piêns、Vedic páyas“牛奶”、Vedic pipyúši“富含牛奶”的同源词,源自重建的原始印欧语*pieh“肥胖、繁荣、肿胀”和* pipih usih “丰富,充满牛奶。”

    ……剪下……。

    “Zarem,maiδyö.zarem 的第二部分来自 Avestan zairi“鲜绿色、郁郁葱葱或金色”,可以与旧教堂斯拉夫语 zelenū、立陶宛 geltas、želvas“黄色/金色”、拉脱维亚 zęlts“金色”、俄罗斯 zelënyj“绿色”相提并论。 在后印欧时代,金色/黄色这个词通常是绿色新词的来源。 这个词根从凯尔特语记录到吠陀语,并在原始印欧语中得到保证。 这也表明原始印欧人将黄色/金色视为原色。”

    Ayáthrimá,最后一个秋季感恩节和凯尔特人的 Samhain
    https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2011/10/17/ayathrima-the-last-autumnal-thanksgiving-festival-and-celtic-samhain/

    Ayáthrimá 是秋收、养牛、为过冬做准备的时候。 这个节日与 30 月 XNUMX 日举行的凯尔特人萨温节有很多共同之处。 事实上,几乎所有琐罗亚斯德教和凯尔特人的节日都相隔大约 2 周,而且有着惊人的相似之处。

  69. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    你当时的这个主张是什么?

    你不看吗? 再去重读我的帖子。 确切地说是47号。

    顺便说一句,佛陀所属的释迦族在印度很古老。 与低种姓Jats的后裔Sakas无关。 声称Shakyas = Sakas = Scythians = Nordics是一厢情愿和无知

    一点也不真实。 甚至在摩诃婆罗多库鲁克舍特拉战争中也提到了萨卡斯人或斯基泰人。 因此,早在公元前 1 世纪,斯基泰人就已在印度存在。
    证明佛陀是斯基泰血统的证据远不止萨迦或萨迦这个名字。

  70. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    你是一个严重受骗和不诚实的白痴,有严重的精神问题。 除了一个糟糕的工作,还有谁会把鸦片战争归咎于印第安人呢?

    大声笑说一个认为印度人像他一样的黑人的黑人? 哈哈。 谈谈心理问题。 实际上,任何非洲中心主义者都是一流的吸烟者。
    印度参与鸦片战争有据可查,甚至甘地也对印度商人在贸易中的利润感到羞耻。

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  71. utu 说:
    @Peter Grafström

    林登·拉鲁什 (Lyndon Larouche) 于 1978-79 年委托出版的书籍! – 不要将时间浪费在来自 Lyndon Larouche 圈子的任何事情上。

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  72. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    不要用你的北欧式谎言和废话向论坛发送垃圾邮件。 看着所有人中的一个印度人吐出这种毫无意义的废话总是很有趣。 但它很快就会让人厌烦。

    北欧人被文明的欧洲人(希腊人和罗马人)视为原始野蛮人的原因之一是他们的宗教纯粹是野蛮的。 它总是涉及人的牺牲。 它没有任何深刻或深刻的东西。 对维京人来说,瓦尔哈拉就像一个巨大的兄弟会派对,有无限的小桶和男女,还有无休止的争吵。 凯尔特德鲁伊也好不了多少。

    任何在北欧原始宗教中看到与印度灵性相似的东西的人都对此知之甚少。

    另一方面,印度灵性的巨人几乎总是黑人。

    • 巨魔: Wally
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    , @Malla
  73. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    Michael Witzel 指出,在与恒河东部平原相关的吠陀文本中,没有发现存在于巴利文本中的各种部落。 萨迦派、马拉、瓦吉、利查维、那亚、卡拉玛、布利、莫里亚和维萨利都从婆罗门中消失了。 和 Āranyaka 文本。 相比之下,Pānini 知道 Mallas 和 Vrjis 分别是旁遮普和拉贾斯坦邦的部落。 一定有一些马拉人留在了后面,因为亚历山大的大使会见了被称为“马洛伊”的人(Witzel 1997:310)。 Witzel 推断这些部落必须在晚期吠陀文本的撰写与佛陀在世之间,即大约公元前 1000 年至 500 年之间,到达印度并向东迁移(Witzel 1997:312)。
    释迦牟尼直到佛教时期才被提及,这一事实可以用其他方式来解释。 他们可能是该地区的土著,尽管这引发了他们从哪里获得印度语名称的问题,因为土著人最有可能说一种南亚语言。 他们可能是说印度语的民族的早期浪潮。 然而,这些解释并没有解释释迦族是如何接触到诸如为了道德目的而将人分为身、语、意的观念,这与琐罗亚斯德教的观念非常相似。
    维策尔关于非吠陀部落向东迁移的时间框架仍然很宽泛,但我们可以将其缩小。 Asko Parpola (2002) 独立提出了一个非常相似的假设。 Parpola 与 Pāndavas 有关。 和 通过结合考古和文字证据,他得出结论,一群伊朗人,通常称为 Pāndu 或“苍白”,于公元前 800 年左右通过印度河谷进入印度。 一些 Pāndus 北上成为摩诃婆罗多的 Pandavas,但 Parpola 论证的主要部分是 Pāndus 继续向南迁移到西海岸并最终。成为斯里兰卡第一位讲印欧语的人(Parpola 2002:362-4)。 这个论点的一个可能弱点是僧伽罗语通常被认为是印度语而不是伊朗语。 然而,Parpola 建议 Pān. davas “迅速采用了早期的当地文化和语言”,我们假设原始僧伽罗语 Pāndu 也这样做了。 在这里,我们可以将 Pandavas 与 .
    10 世纪北欧移民到诺曼底,他们迅速采用了法语和习俗。 此外,Pāndavas 新获得的职位“通过伪造的家谱合法化,使他们成为早期统治家族的一个分支”(Parpola 2002:370)。
    Parpola 做了一些直观的飞跃,他补充道: “另一个成功的群体是佛陀所属的家族:释迦族也是潘杜斯,正如他们的名字所揭示的那样,最终起源于释迦族”(Parpola 2002:370)。 Parpola的日期约。 这次迁移开始的公元前 800 年正好在 Witzel 的时间范围内。
    碰巧的是,气候科学家提出,“由于太阳活动减少导致湿度增加”的突然气候变化导致了公元前 850 年左右斯基泰文化的急剧扩张(van Geel 等人 2004a,2004b;还有 Chambers 等人. 2007)。 这种转变可能在十年内迅速发生,并且还导致了公元前 850 年之后印度西北部季风强度减弱导致的“干旱危机”(van Geel 等,2004b)。 范吉尔等人。
    另请注意,“干旱迫使人们从定居转变为牧羊/山羊”(van Geel 等人,2004b:276),而 Gupta 等人。 表明作物种植的变化也会由气候变化引起,这可能解释了使用小米、扁豆、鹰嘴豆等的原因(Gupta 等,2006:1086)。 与此同时,巨石人带着铁和铁从南印度迁移到德干。
    马,“它们可能是造成该地区铜石文化终结的原因”(van Geel 等人,2004b:276)。 然而,Asko Parpola 将南印度的巨石视为 Pāndus 向南移动的产物(Parpola 2002:362)。
    托马斯·霍普金斯 (Thomas Hopkins) 的声称(在塞缪尔 2008 年)提出了另一个可能的证据,即中央恒河文化与马尔瓦文化有相似之处。 马尔瓦人是公元前第二个千年期间在德干北部、马哈拉施特拉邦和古吉拉特邦蓬勃发展的几个铜石社会之一。 这些文化的一个特点是,它们与印度河文明一样,相对突然地停止了。 “气候的剧烈变化发生在公元前 1000 年左右,
    当干旱加剧时。这可能导致绝大多数铜石器定居点被遗弃“(Dhavalikar 1984:155)。 最后一次逃兵发生在公元前 700 年左右。 可能是公元前 850 年这个更近更准确的日期也适用于这里,德干的铜石文化的崩溃反映了马拉斯人、弗尔吉人和 Śākyas 人所面临的情况。
    公元前 9 世纪的气候变化也大致对应于从青铜到铁的变化。 它也对应于将 Rgveda 汇编成一个集合 (Deshpande 1979: 240)。 可以精确到几十年内的气候变化数据可能是建立古印度文化变化年表的越来越有用的工具。 公元前 850 年
    变化符合 Parpola 提出的日期,这反过来又支持了 Witzel 的猜想。 无论 Śakas 是否真的是 Pāndus,正如 Parpola 所暗示的那样,我们至少可以想象,季风强度的急剧减弱,加上来自印度以外的压力,以草原游牧部落的活跃和扩张的形式出现,可能导致了Mallas 和 Vrjis 得到了相当充分的证明。

  74. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    不要用你的北欧谎言和废话在论坛上发垃圾邮件。

    别再唠叨你没意思了。 我已经展示了波斯、北欧和吠陀宗教之间的相似之处。 相似之处是深刻的。

    另一方面,印度灵性的巨人几乎总是黑人。

    是的,他们来自他们出生的泥地泥屋,乘坐飞行的瓦坎达金字塔飞往印度。 它是用 BSpurana 写的。 哈哈

  75. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    停止用你的北欧谎言和废话向论坛发送垃圾邮件

    听你的愚蠢的朋克。 那是来自一个由伊朗人经营的正宗琐罗亚斯德教网站,那里没有北欧主义者,去看看。 在你不同意的一切中,你都会看到北欧主义或殖民主义。

  76. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    一个认为印第安人是黑人的黑人说

    印度人大多是黑人。 罗马人认为南印度人和北印度人的肤色分别与埃塞俄比亚人和埃及人相似。 虽然印第安人的头发是波浪形的而不是卷曲的。

    印度参与鸦片战争有据可查

    印第安人当时是英国的奴隶和奴隶。 据你说,大英帝国为了印度鸦片商人的利益与中国开战。 你疯了。

    • 回复: @Malla
  77. Bliss 说:
    @Malla

    这不是要让非洲人挨饿或让印度人挨饿

    实际上,印度人遭受地方性饥饿和营养不良的痛苦远远超过世界任何其他地区。 非洲远不那么拥挤,看起来也比印度好得多。 通过非洲城市和印度城市比较 YouTube 驱动器并感到羞耻。

    印度的原始狩猎采集者可能比非洲多。 非洲文明比印度文明还要古老。 而且更令人印象深刻。 印度人永远无法建造这样的东西:

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  78. Bliss 说:

    【题外话太多了。 如果您希望发表任何评论,请提供主题性、实质性评论。]

  79. hunor 说:
    @Bliss

    是的,他确实来自 wakunda。

  80. 如果盎格鲁人与我们结盟会更好。 但是由于盎格鲁人是一群贪婪、贪婪、热爱个人主义的犹太人的背叛者,他们的公共本能有缺陷,所以德国人不得不与东方人结盟,尤其是所有人!

    英格兰是这场致命背叛的中心节点。 他们是从背后促成入侵欧洲的人。 他们从空中屠杀了我们的妇女、儿童和老人,而我们的男人则在布尔什维克大军面前死去。 当我们濒临消灭他们时,他们帮助并教唆了种族灭绝的苏联国家。 他们是那些选择病态的犹太诱惑而不是健康的雅利安身份的人。

    看到英格兰被巴基斯坦人混为一谈,我既不震惊也不羞耻。 无处可逃。 他们应得的。 我们德国人总是可以向东移动并与我们的斯拉夫兄弟一起解决问题。 实际上,我们与这些人的共同点比资产阶级(((盎格鲁人)))更多。

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  81. Wally 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    有关德国人将自己称为“大师赛”的虚假声明的更多信息,请参阅: “大师赛” / Herrenrasse / Herrenvolk –故意翻译错误: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12400

    还建议:
    在第一次纽伦堡审判中使用“大师赛”一词: http://www.cwporter.com/mran.htm

    大师赛”不是国家社会主义者使用的术语:一个罕见的词——“Herrenvolk”——如何被误译为“大师赛”的故事: http://www.cwporter.com/rauschningnote.htm

    战时“大师赛”照片欺骗,克劳斯·索伊卡: https://codoh.com/library/document/2832/

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  82. 1945 年,盟军士兵踏遍了德国每平方英寸的领土。 德国无条件投降,第三帝国解体。 但是在日本,如果盟军士兵踏足日本,则有成千上万的士兵和飞行员愿意将自己变成人肉炸弹。

    日本人和德国人在精神上是有区别的。

  83. Malla 说:
    @Bliss

    印度人大多是黑人。 罗马人认为南印度人和北印度人的肤色分别与埃塞俄比亚人和埃及人相似。 虽然印第安人的头发是波浪形的而不是卷曲的。

    印度人主要是棕色的,但也有许多黑皮肤的人,在南印度/斯里兰卡的比例更高。 但这并不意味着印度人与撒哈拉以南非洲的黑人有血缘关系。 印度次大陆基本上是由原始黑人澳大利亚狩猎采集者、伊朗农民(主要是一种高加索人)、雅利安草原战车/骑马牧民(肯定是高加索人)和东亚蒙古人种(一些来自东北亚穿过西藏有些是柬埔寨稻农)。 事实上,印度次大陆是一个混血儿,就像普通的巴西人或墨西哥人一样。 因此,印度人大多是棕色的。
    南印度人更多的是 ASI(祖先的南印度人),但他们也有 ANI(祖先的北印度人),只是南印度的 ASI 比例更高。 ASI 本身并不是纯黑色的,而是由高加索伊朗小麦农民和黑人澳大利亚狩猎采集者混合而成。

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    印第安人当时是英国的奴隶和奴隶。

    殖民主义并不意味着每个印第安人都是奴隶。 英国统治时期有很多自由,尤其是在东印度公司结束后。 印度商人可以随心所欲地自由交易,许多印度商人非常富有。 1920 年代英属印度的普通印度人比 1920 年代犹太人统治的苏联俄罗斯的普通俄罗斯人拥有更多的自由。

    据你说,大英帝国为了印度鸦片商人的利益与中国开战。

    鸦片贸易的主要支柱是巴格达迪塞法迪犹太沙逊家族。 印度商人是他们的拉莫拉鱼。 沙逊家族仍然是世界上最富有的家族之一,过去曾与超级富有的德系罗斯柴尔德家族通婚。

    鸦片是从英属印度出口到中国而不是从英国出口的。 鸦片是由印度农民种植的。

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/the-heroic-tale-of-great-entrepreneurs-is-nonsense-amitav-ghosh/articleshow/55611360.cms?from=mdr

    “印度公司在鸦片贸易/战争中扮演了什么角色?
    他们[印度公司]发挥了开创性作用。 在很大程度上,鸦片战争是由印度的钱——旧的孟买钱资助的。 许多印度大家庭靠鸦片赚钱。 这同样适用于美国。 许多美国公司和家族都靠鸦片赚钱——富兰克林·罗斯福总统的家族、卡尔文·柯立芝家族、福布斯家族,现任国务卿约翰·克里就是从那里得到的,甚至像耶鲁大学和布朗大学这样的机构。 没有鸦片,今天的新加坡和香港就不会存在。 本质上,鸦片是 19 世纪最重要的商品。”

    ..剪…

    “鸦片战争是一场非常现代的战争。 它被商人卖给了英国政府。 他们收钱并送威廉·贾丁(William Jardine)到伦敦,以贿赂政客开始这场战争。 这是国家和私营部门之间的勾结,不仅受益于鸦片贸易的政策,而且还受益于将整个战争分包给他们,在粮食、补给船等方面。伊拉克战争。 ”

    那些努力工作和竞选以阻止鸦片贸易并最终负责结束鸦片贸易的人是 主要是英美新教传教士. 所有人都在胡说八道,没有一个棕色的印第安人关心停止这种不道德的贸易。

    成立反鸦片协会常设委员会,旨在制止和结束中国的鸦片威胁,推动舆论反对鸦片贸易。 该委员会的成员是 John Glasgow Kerr,医学博士,美国长老会驻广州传道部; BC Atterbury,医学博士,美国长老会北京传道会; 亚瑟·穆勒副执事,上海教会传道会; Henry Whitney,医学博士,美国驻福州外交使团委员会; 贵阳中国内地会塞缪尔·克拉克牧师; 太原英国浸信会牧师亚瑟·戈斯蒂克·肖洛克; 和汉口伦敦宣教协会的格里菲斯约翰牧师。 这些传教士普遍对英国政府的鸦片皇家委员会访问印度而不是中国感到愤怒。 因此,传教士首先在中国各宣教站的同工中组织了中国反鸦片同盟。 美国传教士 Hampden Coit DuBose 担任第一任总统。 这个组织选举了国家官员并举行了年度全国会议,在收集中国每一位受过西方培训的医生的数据方面发挥了重要作用,然后在威廉·赫克托·帕克 (William Hector Park) 汇编了《100 多名医生关于鸦片使用的意见》时发表。中国(上海:美国长老会出版社,1899)。 这些医生中绝大多数是传教士。 该调查还包括私人诊所的医生,特别是在上海和香港,以及在西方国家的医学院接受过培训的中国人。 在英国,中国内地会的本杰明·布鲁姆霍尔(Benjamin Broomhall)是鸦片贸易的积极反对者,他写了两本书来宣传禁止吸食鸦片:吸食鸦片的真相和吸食鸦片的中国人。 1888 年,布鲁姆霍尔成立并成为秘书 切断大英帝国与鸦片贸易的基督教联盟 其期刊《国家正义》的编辑。 他游说英国议会停止鸦片贸易。 他和詹姆斯·莱德劳·麦克斯韦(James Laidlaw Maxwell)呼吁 1888 年伦敦传教士会议和 1910 年爱丁堡传教士会议谴责这种贸易的继续进行。布鲁姆霍尔临终时,他的儿子马歇尔从《泰晤士报》向他宣读了一个受欢迎的消息,即达成了一项协议。签署确保鸦片贸易在两年内结束。

  84. G. Durocher: “希特勒和蔼可亲的副元首鲁道夫·赫斯(Rudolf Hess)认为,日本人更容易融入社区:“我们也(像日本人一样)正在努力摧毁个人主义。 我们正在为建立一个基于极权主义新理念的新德国而奋斗。 在日本,这种思维方式自然而然地为人们所熟知。”

    换句话说,危险的德国白痴想要追随危险的日本白痴的脚步。

    就这样……🙁

    此致onebornfree

  85. @Bliss

    实际上,印度人遭受地方性饥饿和营养不良的痛苦远远超过世界任何其他地区。 非洲远不那么拥挤,看起来也比印度好得多。 通过非洲城市和印度城市比较 YouTube 驱动器并感到羞耻。

  86. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @ClassicBenz

    Durocher,多么文章,两个种族灭绝的国家(并以此为荣),日本和德国,以及灵性,多么矛盾,(你是说撒旦教作为灵性吗?)。

    日本和德国各杀了几千万人,他们想盗取他们的土地,攻击他们,这是一场贪婪和血腥的恶魔狂欢!

    你们的撒旦革命法国,杜罗歇尔,也和拿破仑一起进攻并入侵了整个欧洲,从卡迪克斯到莫斯科,杀死了数百万人并窃取了一切,这是另一场贪婪和鲜血的撒旦狂欢。 法国仍然在经济上占据非洲,用非洲金融共同体法郎剥削她。

    英国人在种族灭绝和海盗方面也有良好的记录。

    500年前的盎格鲁日耳曼新教革命,在欧洲打开了潘多拉魔盒,扼杀了灵性,首先将欧洲北部非基督教化,然后将害虫扩大到整个欧洲和全世界,废黜了上帝,让金钱和鲜血登上了王位,这是什么灵性? ? , 现在 世界 生活 在 恐惧 中 , 没有 上帝 . 现在我们生活的不是达摩克利斯之剑,而是原子弹。 向玛门支付你的糖果税并服从,否则,原子导弹将落在你的头上。

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    , @Malla
  87. Logan 说:
    @Bliss

    日本人的所作所为,模仿英国和其他西方帝国,入侵中国并杀害了数百万中国人,这与佛陀的教义背道而驰。

    日本人不需要为了征服目的而对其他土地进行暴力入侵的指示。

    毕竟,他们从 1592 年到 1598 年发动了对朝鲜的大规模入侵,早在任何西方列强对中国产生太大影响之前。

    这次入侵朝鲜的目的仅仅是征服中国的前奏。

    超过 300,000 人在此过程中丧生,其中大多数像往常一样是韩国平民,人口不足 10 万。

  88. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:

    上帝已经死了

    尼采

    尼采死了

    良好

  89. Logan 说:
    @Malla

    根据叔本华的定义,“上帝”一词表示创造世界的人。

    毫无疑问他做到了。 您未能提供的是我们应该接受此定义的任何理由。

    • 回复: @Malla
  90. Logan 说:
    @Peter Grafström

    延长痛苦,英美机构如何故意将第一次世界大战延长三年半

    所以第一次世界大战“应该”在 1915 年 XNUMX 月结束? 为什么?

    很明显,如果大英帝国没有参加战争,德意志帝国就会赢,但这是非常公开和明显的。

    我猜你可以说“英美建制派”也延长了战争,因为如果美国在 1914 年参战,盟军就会在 1918 年之前赢得胜利。

    • 回复: @Peter Grafström
  91. Alfred 说:
    @Sam Coulton

    我一直对波斯语/波斯语和一些欧洲语言之间的相似性很感兴趣。 有一些单词与古代英语单词惊人地相似:

    *女儿——多赫塔尔
    * 牛 - gav
    * 母亲 – madar
    * 兄弟 – 布拉达尔

    奇怪的是,这些非常基本的词在 Jewpedia 中找不到。 我猜他们将它们归于日耳曼血统:

    波斯语的英语单词列表

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Persian_origin

  92. @utu

    拉鲁什圈子有政治的一面,也是历史研究的一个很有价值的地方,因为官方的历史学家没有说实话。 这种对比很能说明问题,但不是以您似乎相信的方式。 我不同意他们对罗斯福的同情,但他们在那里扮演政治家的角色,罗斯福为美国人民提供了一些好处,尽管这是世界其他地区的代价。 新政、社会民主主义、法西斯主义和纳粹主义都对英美帝国有利,在西方建立稳定,使有利可图的战争生产得以顺利进行。

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    如果西方有人得到诺贝尔和平奖,拉鲁什圈子的政治方面就应该被授予诺贝尔和平奖。 他们一贯支持发展与和平合作,而不是疯狂的帝国主义战争。 并同样揭露了抱怨战争没有杀死足够多的人并批评西方寡头政治反对世界的经济战争的邪恶马尔萨斯派。
    撒谎的法庭历史学家按照埃里克·阿瑟·布莱尔(乔治·奥威尔饰)在他的 1984 年的著作行事,该著作将被命名为 1948 年。但布莱尔快要死了,可能无法讨价还价。 他作为内部人士在英国近距离研究了它。 虽然建制派喜欢把它看成主要是关于共产主义者,所以他们指向他与西班牙内战的时间。 并且作为一个反乌托邦的预测而不是它是什么:对英美帝国及其极权主义“敌人”的产生的描述。
    哈里·埃尔默·巴恩斯 (Harry Elmer Barnes) 认为美国是在 1937 年朝着布莱尔小说 1984 的方向发展的。他在为永久和平而进行的永久战争中写道。
    事情比关于贵格会作为希特勒青年团的“不知情”组织者的简短描述要糟糕得多。 早在 1800 年代初期,英国就开始暗中破坏欧洲大陆的犹太人,其双重目标是实现以色列作为中东地区针对英国竞争对手的桥头堡的项目,以及不那么明显的目标,即维持英国对银行业的控制。

    英国人从未公开表达过后一个目标,因此它是逻辑分析的结果。
    如果允许德国继续在 ME 等领域进行合作、扩大德国经济的计划,而不会被迫卷入一场他们不想要的战争,他们本可以取代英国成为生产和金融的权力中心。 所以英国需要战争,但能够控制犹太网络也很有价值。 通过雇用犹太人作为革命者以及故意为纳粹主义和犹太复国主义设置场景而促进了这一点。 19 世纪充满了英国的阴谋,但宫廷历史学家从未如实呈现。 历史被他们屠杀了。
    韦伯斯特·塔普利 (Webster Tarpley) 的反对寡头政治给出了概述。
    出于某种原因,他们没有曝光休斯顿张伯伦的角色,但其他作家已经曝光了。

  93. @Malla

    事实上,斯基泰人和印度-伊朗游牧民族属于北欧种族的一个版本。

    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-VI5.htm

    • 回复: @Malla
  94. @Bliss

    最初的印度伊朗人是蓝眼睛的金发女郎,你这个白痴。

    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-VI5.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture

    从一个人身上提取的 Y-DNA 被确定属于 Y-DNA 单倍群 C(但不是 C3),而另外两个提取物被确定属于单倍群 R1a1a,这被认为标志着早期印度-欧洲人。 在接受调查的人中,只有 22 人(或 78%)被确定为蒙古人种,而 XNUMX 人(或 XNUMX%)被确定为高加索人, [19]其中大多数人肤色浅,主要是浅色的眼睛和浅色的头发。[XNUMX]

  95. @Anon

    很抱歉重复我的回答,但是……

    • 回复: @Anon
  96. Malla 说:
    @Logan

    您未能提供的是我们应该接受此定义的任何理由。

    哇,伙计,我只是在引用奥托·韦宁格的话。 我自己不一定同意这个定义。 Otto Weininger 只是在解释犹太人和雅利安人心态之间的差异,包括精神崇敬的差异。 他甚至继续说,犹太人是一种心态,并非所有犹太人都有,许多非犹太人也有。

    • 回复: @Logan
  97. Malla 说:
    @Sam Coulton

    是的,这是真的。 感谢您的链接。

  98. @Curmudgeon

    公平地说,我最常听到日本人将纳粹符号发音为“hakenkurosu”。 与“纳粹”一词最接近的日语对应词:

    https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Nazis-use-the-Swastika-and-how-did-it-become-known-in-Germany. (顺便说一句:很好的链接到希特勒那里的符号草图。)

    与奥丁有关的纳粹使用似乎有点紧张。

  99. @Jon Halpenny

    你看过太平洋战争的延时进展图吗?
    它在 youtube 上。
    日本人每走一步都被美军彻底消灭和控制。 从珍珠港开始,日本人无情地失败和撤退。 他们从来没有占据上风。 硫磺岛充其量只是一个减速带,然后美国的主宰就走了。

    另一方面,德国人在数量上以 50 比 70 的优势被包围,被无情地从空中攻击,挨饿,没有海洋的缓冲,在平坦广阔的开阔土地上的开放季节,但他们仍然进行了一场超人的战斗直到最后,对他们凶残的敌人部落造成大量杀戮,为他们的 Volk 拼命战斗,同时从各个角度遭到种族灭绝。 相比之下,日本人就像足球一样被踢来踢去。

    我不在乎好莱坞告诉你关于武士和神风敢死队的事情。 如果犹太人赞美你,这就是你的非人身份的自动证明。

    德国人在两次世界大战中证明了他们是地球上的至高无上的战士。 日本工蚁没有靠近。

    • 同意: utu
    • 哈哈: tamo
    • 回复: @Cowboy
    , @tamo
    , @Jon Halpenny
  100. hunor 说:
    @Bliss

    他是他那个时代最好的说唱歌手,也是一名出色的篮球运动员。

  101. Anonymous [又名“Anonn36”] 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    刚刚读完大卫欧文的优秀“希特勒的战争”,并回忆起德国士兵遵循希特勒的命令战斗到最后一人的一些情况,当然,这并不意味着这是一项全面的军事政策。

  102. S 说:
    @ClassicBenz

    有趣的是,随着德国人越来越愿意牺牲自己, 更多的日本士兵开始表现出投降而不是死亡的意愿 为皇帝。

    是的,例如 1 年 22 月 1945 日至 7,000 月 XNUMX 日之间的冲绳之战,他们第一次有数千人(最初是 XNUMX 人)投降或被俘,而不是有效地执行自杀式“万岁”指控。 这在当时被视为日本人开始“崩溃”的迹象。

    • 回复: @anonymous
    , @jlee1
  103. @Bliss

    吠陀教先于佛教。
    事实上,佛教之于吠陀教就像伊斯兰教之于犹太教,只是我们谈论的是雅利安人,而不是诡计多端的闪米特山羊头。

    无论如何,在 Vedism 中,履行佛法(职责)的暴力,脱离了激励而为自己的利益而执行,在道德上被驱散和容忍。 充满激情的意图、渴望和对奖赏的依恋是罪的开始。 出于这个原因,吠陀教强调克制和禁欲主义。 因此,将印欧纳粹与佛教联系起来并以此来论证和平主义是无知的可笑。

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  104. Moi 说:
    @Digital Samizdat

    如果尼采不是一神论者,那是他的损失。

  105. 我想知道代表团和报告是如何在德国和日本之间来往的? 1939年后,德国到日本的海路被皇家海军关闭,1941年后,陆路被苏联关闭。

    我记得在战争后期读到过一些通过 U-boat 的通信,但总的来说,作为“盟友”的德国和日本存在严重的通信问题。

  106. @Logan

    没错,但这意味着对德国的损害比英国的深层国家所想的要小。
    卡内基基金会的一项研究表明,他们已经让美国精英在 1909 年准备发动战争,后来还通过摩根大通向 XNUMX 万美国富人出售了英国债券。 总而言之,战争利润、对德国未来的破坏,解释了时间安排。
    此外,对英国来说非常重要的是,需要足够长的战争时间来让英国颠覆俄罗斯。

    • 回复: @S
    , @S
  107. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    俄罗斯有北奥塞梯-阿拉尼亚共和国,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Ossetia%E2%80%93Alania

    • 回复: @Malla
  108. Half-Jap 说:

    皇帝在技术上是一个掺假的神,作为神系,因为上位神决定他们也想统治这片土地,但与凡人完全培养。 显然,皇室成员都太人性化了。 但作为一个古老的血统,它们有其价值。
    房子的象征,菊花,是一个全球共享的古老主题,暗示着从美杜莎到佛陀莲花的共同经历。 如果他们已经存在了数万年,我不会感到惊讶,因为他们是最后一场灾难的著名老练幸存者。天皇下万歳

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  109. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    我喜欢你阐述你的想法的方式和你对巴托洛的尊重,你是如此尊重和聪明的巴托洛。

    巴托洛,你从哪里得到这个混蛋说不连贯的事情的视频? 你这不合适,我肯定你把它弄错了。

    欢迎

  110. G. Durocher 说: “于尔根斯接着观察到第三帝国的人民正在寻求一种新的灵性(记者总结):

    当今德国人民不再满足于他们至今所拥有的宗教。 然而,一个能够完全满足德国人民的新宗教还没有诞生。 “

    于尔根斯大错特错。 德意志民族已经有一种新的民族宗教被强加给他们,它被称为“国家主义”,或对[德国]国家的偶像崇拜。

    “愚蠢就是愚蠢”。

    等等……。

    此致onebornfree

    • 回复: @Epigon
    , @Honor is Loyalty
    , @Wally
  111. anon[396]• 免责声明 说:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    > 天主教基督教——是犹太人的产物

    真的,真的,不管你多么想否认它。 读过《教理问答》吗? 它与《犹太人约》一致。 Cuckianity 是犹太人的崇拜,从开始到现在。

    •“我们崇拜 我们所知道的,因为救恩来自 犹太人。” (约翰福音4:22)

    •“属于犹太人 儿子身份,荣耀,立约,法律的赐予, 崇拜…'”(天主教教理问答)

    停止将你的救恩外包给犹太人。 如果一个白人以某种方式觉得需要“拯救”,他应该从另一个提供此类服务的白人那里寻求“拯救”,就像在犹太讲故事者发明拉比犹太人角色之前一样,正如柏拉图所记录的那样,大约 400 BJWE (在犹太崇拜时代之前),如下:

    他们执行自己的仪式,不仅说服个人,而且说服整个城市,可以通过在空余时间里进行的牺牲和娱乐来为罪恶赎罪和赎罪,并且同样为生者和死者服务。 后者被称为谜,它们使我们从地狱的痛苦中解救出来,但是如果我们忽略它们,没人会知道我们在等待什么。

    柏拉图
    共和国,第二卷

    可以是白人。

  112. @Digital Samizdat

    好名字。
    作为一名地下工作者是一项非常吃力不讨好的工作。
    但随着 4chan、DS 和 youtube 被审查和关闭,它变得更加重要。 我只是希望你保留你最好的材料的物理副本,因为数字化努力是如此短暂和微妙。

  113. Epigon 说:
    @onebornfree

    滚蛋,全球主义的自由主义辅助。

    欧洲人有种族民族主义、实际传统、历史和自豪感,不像你们这些脑残的傻瓜赞美激进的个人主义和唯物主义。

    • 回复: @onebornfree
    , @Anounder
  114. @onebornfree

    偶像崇拜对雅利安人来说就像条纹对老虎一样自然。
    只有一个憎恨上帝、堕落、破坏文明、缺乏想象力的犹太人才会对人类对上帝最真诚的奉献所激发的美丽事物有异议。
    新教徒在模仿这种犹太人对“刻板印象”的蔑视真的很可悲,就像鹦鹉在寻找饼干一样。
    去吧,以色列,你这个新教的小伙子。
    比比需要更多的税收谢克尔。
    更少的互联网,更多的工作。
    不要让美国国税局等着,以色列就靠你了。

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  115. @Honor is Loyalty

    荣誉

    我以为你可能是南亚人,但这种无知清楚地证明你不是。

    佛陀在印度教后很久才出现,他被驱逐出印度。

    • 回复: @Honor is Loyalty
  116. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:

    纳粹是异教徒,他们拒绝基督教,他们不仅拒绝耶稣基督,还拒绝欧洲的所有希腊罗马传统,以及东方对希腊罗马传统的影响。

    他们的“上帝”是一个滥用毒品的穷人,患有帕金森病,充满仇恨,不是很聪明,名叫阿道夫希特勒,他让大多数德国人相信他们,德国人是优越的种族,他们是上帝,他们会到达天堂。 相反,他带领他们下地狱。

    • 回复: @Bookish1
    , @Seraphim
  117. @Epigon

    哦,看来我触动了一两个国家主义者的神经! 🙂

    那么接下来的议程是什么,以你的宗教的卑鄙小借口对不信的人进行身体威胁?

    加油,我等不及了!

    现在必须走了,毕竟是我“在广场上走来走去”的时候了:

    “问候” onebornfree

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
    , @Anounder
  118. Wally 说:
    @onebornfree

    “德意志民族已经有一种新的民族宗教被强加给他们,它被称为‘国家主义’,或对[德国]国家的偶像崇拜[崇拜]。”

    Is that why FDR was 'elected' four times?

  119. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Wally

    谢谢沃利,但我已经熟悉你的链接。

    Unz Review 尚未被视为“产生虚假叙述的名誉扫地、反犹太主义、新纳粹、白人至上主义网站”。 哈哈。 希望 Durocher 先生的文章能在这里消耗更多的红色药丸。

  120. Wally 说: • 您的网站
    @El Dato

    说过:
    “他们也不反对成为极端的混蛋,而不是为了一点运动而虐待和谋杀下层阶级的成员……”

    除非没有证据证明这种犹太复国主义主张。

  121. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Honor is Loyalty

    新教徒在模仿这种犹太人对“刻板印象”的蔑视真的很可悲,就像鹦鹉在寻找饼干一样。 去吧,以色列,你这个新教的小伙子。

    虽然肯定有一些教派拒绝“墓志铭”,但并非所有人都如此。 就我个人而言,我看不到威克里夫、路德或胡斯为罗斯柴尔德的犹太复国主义项目——以色列而努力。

    • 回复: @utu
  122. Curmudgeon 说:
    @onebornfree

    现实情况是,人类需要某种信仰体系才能理解生活。 对于地球上的大多数人来说,它是某种形式的宗教,无论是部落的和植根于史前的,还是像 RC 教会这样的大型有组织的结构。 在这其中,总会有精神病患者希望利用方面来为自己谋取利益或获得权力。

    NSDAP允许宗教自由,只要它保持宗教而非政治。 当然,他们追求不同的东西,但这真的是国家主义吗?

  123. Bookish1 说:
    @4891

    尼采可能钦佩犹太教的一些东西,但他还没有读过“锡安的协议”。 他从未听过希特勒解释犹太人控制以及犹太人如何利用西方来推进他们的权力利益的演讲。 以及犹太人如何支持摧毁西方的每一个决定性力量。 西方如何与犹太人作战的每场战争都是主要的赢家。 尼采还有东西要学。

  124. Bookish1 说:
    @Anon

    1 一个不聪明、被误导、被洗脑的白痴的想法。 回去睡觉。

  125. S 说:
    @Peter Grafström

    这本书 魔术师希特勒您可能熟悉的 ,其前提与您描述的有关英国、德国和俄罗斯的内容相似。

    如果您从未读过它,您可能会找到 1853 年的地缘政治书籍 新罗马 Poesche 和 Goepp(链接如下)有一些兴趣。 [注:我不是为了这本 19 世纪中期的书所说的,同时人们应该意识到它的存在和内容。]

    该书概述了美国和英国未来如何通过三个步骤获得总的世界力量:

    1) 结束自 1776 年以来美国和英国之间存在的战略错误分裂,以便他们共同形成一个几乎无与伦比的世界统一战线。

    2) 征服德国并巩固对它的控制,德国被描述为欧洲大陆的权力中心。

    3) 粉碎俄罗斯,俄罗斯被确定为美国的潜在竞争者,以控制德国,从而控制欧洲和世界。

    正如书中所描述的那样,计划中的任何“松散的结局”都将由美国/英国对世界经济体系的主导地位来处理。

    有趣的是,该书概述了主导制空权的重要地缘政治重要性,并且未来将是美国这样做。

    这是美国在全球范围内投射其空中力量的能力,这将使其在俄罗斯占上风,并为俄罗斯的失败做出巨大贡献。

    pg.155-156(新罗马 – 1853 年)

    空军将使我们战胜俄罗斯的大陆主义。 美国民航业者将不愿使用俄罗斯驻军,而要使用我们自己富有表现力的语,“就像一堆砖头一样”……

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

  126. anonymous[145]• 免责声明 说:
    @S

    他们第一次有成千上万的日本人(最初是 7,000 人)投降或被俘,而不是有效地执行自杀式的“万岁”指控。

    其中最著名的一位是矢原弘道上校,他的自杀提议被拒绝了,在他切腹之前,他被牛岛将军命令“承担耻辱”并投降。

    至于“万岁冲锋”,前期说服牛岛发动数次灾难性攻势的是赵勇中将,但后来说服两人坚持守住阵地的策略的是矢原。 ,如首里线。

    • 回复: @S
  127. S 说:
    @anonymous

    谢谢。 冲绳对美国来说尤其昂贵。

    澄清一下,虽然投降的日本人比以往任何时候都多,但其中相当一部分是最近被征召入伍的冲绳当地人,他们的战斗精神与日本正规军不同。

  128. Che Guava 说:

    我有一份当时转载的文章的剪报,重点是希特勒青年特遣队的伟大纪律和马车,早在维多利亚的报告之前(我以前不知道修道院逗留,所以值得称赞, OTOH,我很确定在日语中很容易找到它,但是是的,报纸报道从未提及)。

    这个维多利亚没有说到点子上。 禅宗的本源,在中国,有一种保卫人民的味道。 它,吨,有文学,有时也有武装。

    它的日本分支的主要目的是教武士如何在需要时死去。 任何不明白这一点的人都是傻瓜。

    作为一个旁注,我在过去提到过这个网站,在一个失败的(出于完全不理解的原因)幕府对帝国政府的行动之一的遗址上有一座伟大的意大利法西斯纪念碑。 它有一个大理石底座,上面刻着“我们钦佩勇敢的英雄,等等。(我读过意大利语)”然后 安诺·法西斯蒂 后面是罗马数字,我读了,但忘记了数字。 在那上面,有一根来自庞贝的柱子,在顶部,有一个 gsyphon。

    这是一个很好的礼物,它在那里很棒,但是那些实习武士在错误和歇斯底里的假设下自杀了(除了一个,当然后来成为政治家)。

    有一些东西似乎适合这种结合,意大利的迅速崩溃被视为有些危险。

  129. Cowboy [又名“ Kartoffelstampfer”] 说:
    @Honor is Loyalty

    日本人每走一步都被美军彻底消灭和控制。 从珍珠港开始,日本人无情地失败和撤退。

    那么,如果日本在 7 年 1941 月 XNUMX 日袭击苏联,那么您是否认为日本会在 ZOG 永远不会让她避免的战争中获得更好的机会? 最终,斯大林和其他人一样,在背后捅了日本一刀。 即使日本被击败,杜鲁门还是放弃了他的共济会炸弹。

    斯大林之所以能够派出他的冬季特种部队来保护莫斯科,那是因为他在 1941 年那个寒冷的冬天实际上发现日本永远不会在满洲或西伯利亚发动进攻。

    问题是,如果日本在 1941 年帮助德国取缔了塔木德主义者,德国是否能够将她从随后的美国/ZOG 猛攻中拯救出来,并最终将她从 ZOG 核子强暴中拯救出来。

    • 回复: @Honor is Loyalty
    , @utu
  130. @Sam Coulton

    我倾向于同意这种回应的基础,因为我发现作者指的是德国法西斯主义。

    第三帝国不是法西斯! 这就是许多历史学家所说的软独裁。 德国公司对德国政府的影响从来没有现代美国公司对现任联邦政府的影响。 现在可以称为美国法西斯主义。

    第三帝国的所有德国公司都受德国制造委员会的授权,劳资双方之间的所有问题都应在双方之间公平解决。 这个机构不是法西斯主义的症状,实际上是社会主义。

    我不明白为什么这么多作家一直将第三帝国称为德国法西斯主义,除了“法西斯主义”一词已成为表示二战中轴心国交战国政府时的流行术语。

    这与作家(与 Hollywoo0d 一起)将反社会和精神病患者混为一谈是一样的,这实际上有一些非常明显的差异......

    • 回复: @utu
  131. tamo 说:
    @Honor is Loyalty

    如果让我选择轻步兵军官,我会选择日本帝国陆军士兵而不是德国士兵。

    • 回复: @Fox
    , @Epigon
  132. utu 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    我看不到威克里夫、路德或胡斯为罗斯柴尔德的犹太复国主义项目——以色列而努力。

    胡斯和路德都关心让基督教更适合犹太人。 路德后来的反犹爆发可能暗示了他被犹太人背叛的感觉,他们不接受他为他们所做的一切。

    • 回复: @Jake
    , @Alden
  133. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    那是一篇很棒的文章。

    我想知道像德里达这样的犹太尼采主义者会如何看待它。 在当前的西方大学体系中,似乎没有多少死去的作家比尼采更中风。 如果他绕过他们的偏见的意图如此光荣地成功,那将是具有讽刺意味的。

    我最近读过的最好的书之一是字里行间的亚瑟·梅尔泽哲学。

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20694748-philosophy-between-the-lines

    他认为,危险论点的编码是规则而不是例外,并且无处不在。 他是施特劳斯主义者。 我不知道梅尔泽的种族,但我猜他并不急于解密尼采中的任何反犹太主义。 有人知道施特劳斯是否曾就这个话题发表过意见吗?

    没有人会知道尼采的意图或他的台词之间的内容。

  134. peterAUS 说:
    @Half-Jap

    如果他们已经存在了数万年,我不会感到惊讶,因为他们是最后一场灾难的著名老练幸存者。天皇下万歳

    有趣的一点。
    你想扩大一点吗?
    任何支持该想法的材料的链接?

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  135. Fox 说:
    @tamo

    你偏爱的原因是什么?

    • 回复: @Jake
    , @tamo
  136. Epigon 说:
    @tamo

    权。

    正如缅甸、瓜达尔卡纳尔岛和其他所有岛屿之战所证明的那样。

    • 回复: @anonymous
  137. Jake 说:
    @JackOH

    “我想我是那些相信如果我们要了解西方人民是如何让极度士气低落的政治感染政治体的笨蛋之一,我们必须回到 1914 年至 1945 年时期,并在可能的情况下尝试重新评估。 ”

    不,你必须回到 15 世纪,看看随着宗教改革盛行的异端邪说,因为我们正在接近与基督教世界的战争所固有的最终恐怖。

    共济会、马克思主义者、文化马克思主义者、纳粹、自然神论者、禅宗佛教徒、神道教徒、犹太人、回教徒、鸡奸者、英国国教、路德教徒和自由天主教徒都站在这场战争的同一边。

    • 回复: @anon
  138. Epigon 说:
    @Anon

    当德国本可以通过攻击发电厂、水力发电厂和炼油厂而彻底瘫痪时,为什么还要选择个别工厂和设施呢?
    没有电力和石油产品,什么都不会动,而这些目标是无法隐藏的(发电厂的烟羽、水电的水坝、炼油厂的规模)。

    顺便说一句,斯佩尔是二战中最被高估的人物。 他的“成就”是通过他的前任的工作和之前的微调,然后是奴隶/战俘劳动,然后是愚蠢的决定将备件库存变成额外的坦克和发动机,这在短期内提高了产量,但造成了持久的损害关于战争的努力。

    • 回复: @utu
  139. Jake 说:
    @utu

    确切地。 路德相信犹太人在被教导时会全身而退 善意 (仅因信得救)和成千上万的人皈依,这将迎来第二次降临。 当犹太人出版大多数早期的宗教改革小册子时,其中许多是付费的,路德认为某些犹太人这样做是因为他们准备皈依。 当犹太人拒绝皈依时,路德开始对他们进行长篇大论。

    胡斯也好不到哪里去。

    • 回复: @AaronB
  140. AaronB 说:
    @Jake

    在 15 世纪,基督徒和犹太人实际上正朝着相反的方向发展。

    当基督教在宗教改革中使自己变得更愚蠢、更无聊和平凡,最终自杀时,犹太教正朝着美丽的神秘复兴前进,这种复兴在今天仍然具有影响力。

    新教思想非常反对新兴的犹太神秘主义趋势,因此可怜的路德几乎没有机会。

    • 回复: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  141. tamo 说:
    @Fox

    日本帝国士兵非常坚信自我牺牲,极度勇敢,最严格的纪律。 由于这些品质,日本步兵战斗到最后一人的可能性比德国步兵高很多倍。
    难怪纳粹领导人试图学习日本人的军事精神。

  142. ia 说:
    @Bliss

    以下视频估计,神道教中约 80% 的神灵来自印度教:

    有趣,但印度佛教僧侣于公元 8 世纪抵达日本。 这在前 4 分钟左右就说明了。 神道教早在那之前就开始了。

    • 回复: @Malla
  143. @Guillaume Durocher

    禅不是佛教和道教的混合体吗?

    佛陀所传的佛教不涉及神和菩萨,而是采用了与早期信仰和神祇混合的佛教。 中国道教的妙善公主变成了佛教的观音。

    • 回复: @Guillaume Durocher
  144. peterAUS 说:
    @tamo

    让我们看看这是一次严肃的谈话还是只是……平常…… 这周围。

    二战步兵的效率和战斗质量远不止:

    日本帝国士兵非常坚信自我牺牲,极度勇敢,最严格的纪律。

    怎么样:
    -倡议
    - 由经验丰富的士官领导的基本步兵小队。
    -Aufragstaktik?
    - 战术理解“两个层次”; 领导(伤亡)更换“上一级”?

    那是给男人的。
    至于材料:冲锋枪。

  145. Epigon 说:
    @tamo

    战争的重点是多杀戮,少杀戮——让另一边的不幸混蛋为他的国家而死。

    这就是日本人彻底失败的原因——他们对士兵和军官生命的蔑视确保了美国人即使在两栖入侵的不利情况下也能获得不平衡的 K:D 比率。 美国海军陆战队每次都以显着优势击败“优秀”的日本人。

    这架飞机的设计缺乏装甲和自密封坦克,在 50 卡的曳光火力下立即着火,很快也消耗了训练有素的飞行员干部。

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @tamo
  146. AaronB 说:
    @tamo

    但是德国士兵的战斗力要好得多。

    德国士兵在与盟军的每一次交战中都造成了更高的伤亡,更不用说俄罗斯人了,即使是在进攻时也是如此。

    相比之下,日本防御者——以及防御阵地通常给进攻部队造成的伤亡人数是进攻部队的 3 倍——实际上在进攻美军中造成的伤亡比他们遭受的损失要少。

    本世纪早些时候,日本军队在陆上也被俄罗斯军队击败,而在冬季,日本军队并没有像后来的德国人那样在俄罗斯境内被大量超过或过度扩张。

    我对日本人的斗志怀有最高的敬意,在某些方面,他们的纯粹斗志比德国人高,因为他们更愿意战斗到死。 这是我们对一个刚刚摆脱封建主义的国家所期望的,而德国在现代性方面已经走得太远了。

    而日本的战斗力无疑是亚洲第一。 但他们在武力方面无法与欧洲人或美国人相提并论,毕竟事已至此,至少在当时是这样。

    今天很可能是一个不同的故事。

  147. @neutral

    耶稣向“以色列迷失的羊”伸出援手,而不是外邦人。 是保罗创造了一种外邦人可以接受的宗教。 阅读新约中的雅各书或教条,了解耶稣的观点。

  148. @Kali Yuga Management Specialist

    让我想起许多西方白人皈依伊斯兰教,例如,他们认为伊斯兰教是一种女权主义宗教。 他们的伊斯兰品牌是自助式的——我喜欢这个,所以我会练习,我不喜欢那个,所以我会忽略它,我不喜欢那个,所以我会解释它。 他们信奉的伊斯兰教是一种曾经而且从未在世界任何地方实行过的伊斯兰教。 当然,他们是对的,而历代数以亿计的穆斯林是错的。

  149. 德国人和日本人之间最大的区别在于,德国人和其他北欧人一样,天生就更加个性化。 新教强调对圣经的个人解释,反映了北欧的个人主义和爱好自由的精神。

    北欧人也是社会的终极内疚,日本的耻辱。

    现代西方有这么多是违背人性的。

    • 回复: @Epigon
  150. 大声笑读到东部前线有没有想过没有好莱坞电影?

  151. @AaronB

    卡巴拉? 在好莱坞也很时尚。

    • 回复: @AaronB
  152. peterAUS 说:
    @Epigon

    我知道你正在讨论这个话题。

    我知道这是高度假设的,但只是为了交谈:
    如果日本步兵像苏联人那样配备冲锋枪,他们的表现会好得多吗? 例如,PPSh-41 型,比例相同/相似?

    • 回复: @Epigon
  153. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    如果我们在这里坚持线步兵会很有帮助。 只是一个建议。
    否则,从物流开始,您会变得太宽泛。 例如,美国物流与日本物流……………………………………。

    或者,实际上:比较线步兵,从一个班到一个营。 在各自的鼎盛时期。

    仅仅是一个想法。

    • 回复: @AaronB
  154. tamo 说:
    @Epigon

    我不是在谈论武器或物流的质量。 考虑到日本在技术、工业生产能力、人口规模上的巨大劣势,日本不可能赢得对美的战争。
    在这里我只说日本士兵首屈一指的好战精神。

  155. @tamo

    评论者将军事能力与军事精神和自我牺牲的意愿混为一谈。 德国部队比日本部队在军事上更有效,这可能是真的。 但正如你所指出的,日本人在为自己的事业而战和牺牲的意愿方面是无与伦比的。 日本人在硫磺岛和冲绳的残暴使美国人感到震惊。 日本投降时,实际上并不是无条件投降。 皇帝被留在原地。 美国人最不想做的就是在日本的土地上战斗。

    • 同意: AaronB, tamo
    • 回复: @tamo
  156. @jeff stryker

    这就是为什么我说吠陀教先于佛教,并以类似的方式将其与伊斯兰教之前的犹太教相提并论。

    我欣赏佛教,我会接受任何(((Abrahamic)))“宗教”。 但佛教绝对像是廉价的中国仿造版吠陀。

  157. tamo 说:
    @AaronB

    我只是在谈论日本士兵的战斗精神,没有别的(没有关于武器或后勤等的质量)

    你说“我对日本人的斗志怀有最高的敬意,在某些方面他们的纯粹斗志比德国人更高,因为他们更愿意战斗到死”。

    然后你回过头说纯属牛屎“而日本的战斗力无疑是亚洲最好的。 但他们在武力方面无法与欧洲人或美国人完全匹敌”。 你在这里自相矛盾。 没有任何一个欧洲或美国军队比日本帝国士兵更有“战斗精神”。 克服你的白人至上胡说八道。

    在这些日子里,如果我必须选择最坚强的轻步兵,那将是廓尔喀人,没有之一。

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @AaronB
  158. tamo 说:
    @Jon Halpenny

    比你,你直接从我嘴里说出来的话。

  159. Epigon 说:
    @peterAUS

    不,甚至没有接近。
    火炮+迫击炮 > 班机枪 > 二战中伤亡原因的个人武器。

    冲锋枪在大多数战斗场景中都不太理想,一个明显的例外是像斯大林格勒这样的城市战斗,其射程通常小于 50 m,而步枪和机枪的射程和准确性则不那么重要。

    此外,日本人长期缺乏有机步兵火炮和现代师级火炮,更不用说装甲和反装甲装备了。

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  160. AaronB 说:
    @peterAUS

    这是一个公平的观点,但我不知道这些细节中的冲突。 如果你知道细节,我会很高兴听到他们的消息。

    我认为从非常广泛的角度分析它,可以说日本人的战斗力不如西方人有效。 作为战士,他们对亚洲人来说是令人印象深刻的,但在历史的那个阶段,他们并不等同于西方人。 我不知道今天是否会一样(如你所知,我不是种族本质主义者)。

    在战斗精神、奉献精神、士气、愿意牺牲和死亡方面——在那个历史阶段,他们优于大多数欧洲人,尽管德国人接近,而俄罗斯人以他们自己的方式也不甘落后. 就此而言,美国人,澳大利亚人等也不是。

    但是,日本人更接近于前现代、封建和宗教的过去,在那个时候确实具有优越的道德品质——尽管不一定有那么大的差距——并且肯定表现出比美国人更高的道德品质,直到大约 90 年代.

    不过,我不确定这是否仍然存在。

    • 回复: @Epigon
    , @peterAUS
    , @peterAUS
  161. @Cowboy

    我从来没有对日本的事业做出过价值判断。 他们别无选择。 我批评了他们的处决。

  162. peterAUS 说:
    @tamo

    没有任何一个欧洲或美国军队比日本帝国士兵更有“战斗精神”。 克服你的白人至上胡说八道。

    我的……道歉,“塔莫”。
    漠视 我所有的评论都在这里。

    • 回复: @tamo
  163. AaronB 说:
    @tamo

    塔莫,仔细看。 你误读了。

    我说他们的战斗“能力”不及美国人(不是因为技术或后勤,而是简单的人类战斗能力)。

    我同意他们的“精神”甚至比德国人还要高——虽然不是很大,但即使是“颓废”的美国人也证明了相当顽强和精神。

    我什至认为日本人在 90 年代之前的道德品质高于西方,这是他们战后成功的基础。

    现代性腐败。 后来进入现代性,日本人更健康。

    我什至会说,今天,日本人对西方的精神优势仍然保持着微弱的痕迹——尽管这种优势正在迅速消失。

    而相比之下,中国在过去一个世纪左右的时间里并没有表现出卓越的道德品质。

    无论如何,我不是种族主义者——并且不认为这些差异对各自的种族至关重要,而是历史偶然性。

    • 回复: @tamo
  164. Epigon 说:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    大声笑,德国人,斯堪的斯和个人主义。

    • 同意: Alden
    • 回复: @Alden
    , @fnn
  165. peterAUS 说:
    @Epigon

    火炮+迫击炮 > 班机枪 > 二战中伤亡原因的个人武器。

    嗯……正如我上面所说,我想在太平洋的步兵层面坚持战术战斗。 这不包括大部分后勤、空中力量、海军和装甲/火炮。

    所以......三个场景。
    一线步兵营,在夜间和冲突中前进。
    美军线步兵连在太平洋的一座普通山丘上进行防御,夜间,以夺取山丘为目标,对抗日本线步兵营的进攻。
    另一种方式:山上的日本公司; 美军大队进攻。
    在所有情况下,以上只是有机重型武器。

    在这种情况下,恕我直言,人们可以看到 核心品质 线步兵。 就我一个……嘿嘿……

    而且,我确实相信,如果日本人拥有与苏联突击部队相同的比例的 PPSh 41 型火炮(可靠性、弹药容量),那将会有所作为。

    如你所说:

    一个明显的例外是像斯大林格勒这样的城市战斗,其射程通常小于 50 m,而步枪和机枪的射程和准确性则不那么重要。

    丛林……福雷斯特……高草……高灌木……通常的太平洋岛屿。

    • 回复: @Epigon
  166. Epigon 说:
    @AaronB

    场景 1 – 瓜达尔卡纳尔

    你被一艘驱逐舰降落在偏远的地方,一个丛林太平洋岛上,没有任何师级的重型支援、团级火炮或足够的补给。
    您单位的其余部分将在其他晚上部署,不一定在您的位置。

    热带病、营养不良使他们苦不堪言。

    你和你的战友死了,因为你在美国海军陆战队阵地中零碎地或正面冲锋。 伤员死亡是因为无法提供医疗服务,并且疏散方法排除了伤员后送。

    情景 2 – 太平洋要塞驻军

    你被部署为一个规模庞大的日本驻军的一部分,该驻军曾是跳岛战役中一个重要的日本要塞。 随着时间的推移,美国舰队切断了你的距离,舰载机的袭击摧毁了你的港口和机场,美国潜艇击沉了你的补给船,你靠稀有的小型潜艇补给船运送的大米和清酒生存,此外还要猎杀当地的野生动物以使其灭绝。 你实际上是你自己的基地/战俘营的战俘——营养不良、疾病消耗人数和战斗准备。

    情景 3 – 塞班岛

    您在一个实际上被认为足以被美国人入侵的岛屿上,整个驻军在造成极端/全部伤亡的同时设法造成的伤害惊人地小,而您的敌人正在进行两栖入侵,这种情况有利于防御者。

    在某些时候,在不受支持的情况下遇到不受抑制的敌方,机枪、铁丝网、迫击炮和大炮射击,然后在可预见的失败时自杀,变成了“坚韧”和“高素质的步兵”。
    我称之为可怕的战争制造和一般参谋部和负责官员的犯罪无能。

    • 哈哈: tamo
  167. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    如果你知道细节,我会很高兴听到他们的消息。

    问吧。

    我认为从非常广泛的角度分析它,可以说日本人的战斗力不如西方人有效。

    同意。

    作为战士,在那个历史阶段,他们对亚洲人印象深刻,但不等于西方人。 我不知道今天是否会一样(如您所知,我不是种族本质主义者)。

    错误编号1:混合“战士”和“ww2武装部队”。 阿帕奇人是比美国骑兵更好的战士。 祖鲁人是比英国军队更好的战士。 啊,测试:如果……如果……Isandlwana之战浮现在您的脑海中,怎么说:不好。 乌伦迪. 毛利人是......马穆鲁克人......凯尔特/日耳曼部落......

    在战斗精神、奉献精神、士气、愿意牺牲和死亡方面——在那个历史阶段,他们优于大多数欧洲人,尽管德国人接近,而俄罗斯人以他们自己的方式也不甘落后. 就此而言,美国人,澳大利亚人等也不是。

    简单化。 非常受欢迎,尤其是在周围,但过于简单。
    美国和澳大利亚的家庭周围没有任何战斗…………………………………………。

    但是,日本人更接近于前现代、封建和宗教的过去,在那个时候确实具有优越的道德品质——尽管不一定有那么大的差距——并且肯定表现出比美国人更高的道德品质,直到大约 90 年代.

    取决于谁在说话。 不太确定这种情绪在我住的地方是否流行。 一些老歌仍然在身边,并记得所有这些都是如何运作的:战俘。啊……哈哈……还有很多中国人。 出于某种原因,他们也不具备那种“优越的道德品质”。 一定是共产党洗脑。 或者南京和类似的东西。

    不过,我不确定这是否仍然存在。

    啊…………现在我们是 说。
    不知道,但很想知道。
    当每个人和他/她的狗在当代世界中展示他/她的肌肉时,嗯……日本人很可能会“回来”。 不太确定我对此有何感受。 或者,这样的日本将如何影响我们在这里的生活方式。 只是一个想法。

    • 回复: @AaronB
  168. tamo 说:
    @peterAUS

    嘿男孩,在我上次与你相遇之后,我得出的结论是你甚至没有任何军事经验。 你不过是个愚蠢的 HONKIE MF。

  169. Epigon 说:
    @peterAUS

    它实际上比你想象的要容易。
    二战日军腰带式步兵武器数量:2
    Brownings 用霍奇基斯派生的 6.5 和 7.7 甚至 13.2 毫米口径的“重机枪”擦拭地板。

    3×60 美国毫米迫击炮与 2×70 毫米火炮/迫击炮混合使用。

  170. @AaronB

    我认为卡巴拉应该只教给 40 岁以上的正统犹太男性,而不是愚蠢的女演员和放荡的歌手。

    • 哈哈: AaronB
  171. tamo 说:
    @AaronB

    我只是在谈论日本士兵的凶猛军事精神,这是首屈一指的,没有别的。

    在我看来,如果日本士兵拥有更高质量的武器和后勤,可以与美国人媲美,那么日本士兵的“战斗能力”可能会大大提高,战争的结果可能会有所不同。

    • 哈哈: Epigon
    • 回复: @AaronB
  172. peterAUS 说:
    @Epigon

    那是我问题的答案吗? 从连级到营级的战术纯步兵夜间交战,日本冲锋枪?

  173. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    不过,我不确定这是否仍然存在。

    嘿男孩,在我上次与你相遇之后,我得出的结论是你甚至没有任何军事经验。 你不过是个愚蠢的 HONKIE MF。

    呵呵……我只是有一种模糊的感觉,它支持了很多。 在几个层面上,从基本的社交智力开始。 压抑,装瓶……闷闷不乐。
    一样的……啊…… 的途径……最后一次给了他们两颗核弹。 下次……。

  174. AaronB 说:
    @tamo

    在战争开始时,日本的武器实际上明显优越。

    而在中途岛海战,第一场大战,也是战争的转折点,日军占据了优势。 然而他们输了。

    斗志很重要,我同意,但它有不同的表现形式。

    例如,一个美国单位可能不愿意如此轻易地战斗至死或自杀,但在战斗中可能会表现出超强的韧性、独创性和决心。 或不。

    人们同样可以很好地描述这种情况,因为日本早期的成功是在亚洲长期供应线的尽头对抗毫无准备和没有动力的西方驻军,而日本人在他们的后院,当然只有当日本人有出其不意的因素时,就像珍珠港一样。

    但面对充分动员和准备好的西方军队,他们表现不佳。

    虽然这里有一定的道理,但我不会对日本人如此苛刻。 我尊重他们,他们打得很好,应该为他们的成就感到自豪。

    事实是,当你真正审视战争时,所有的胜利都是空洞的——他们被购买是因为一方在士气、技术、装备、人力或后勤方面具有暂时的优势。 然后潮流发生了变化——鞋子在另一只脚上。 今天的受害者就是明天的胜利者。

    最好的例子是法德战争,以拿破仑粉碎德国军队开始——正如我们所知,结局完全不同。

    这就是为什么胜利是上主的,而不是人的🙂

    • 回复: @tamo
  175. 海报中的日本武士让我想起了日本最大的电影明星哥斯拉。

  176. peterAUS 说:

    实际上,对于日本的武侠精神,我很好奇常驻的“坏美国”人们如何攻击放弃核武器的决定? “了不起的苏联人”也是。
    我的意思是,如果这种精神如此“大而坏”,投下核武器只是常识。

    或者,一些封锁会破坏这种精神?

    哪一个?
    让我们看看那个心理体操。

    怎么样:
    日本的武魂是巨大的。 来自西方的美国人和盟友只是娘们。 连核弹都没有用。
    苏联的武魂和整体的武功实在是太强大了,如果苏联入侵,连日本的武魂都会崩溃。 那,可能的苏联入侵打破了那个巨大的。 巨大比巨大更大。 更多大写。
    好?
    对于周围的军事爱好者来说。

    对于更多的人,比如精神方面,你如何解释反对皇帝的未遂政变?
    我的意思是,他是神圣的等等。 武士道、服从等
    那么......这些军官是什么意思? 他们是什么? 他们的切腹呢?
    任何人?

  177. AaronB 说:
    @peterAUS

    是的,很难比较不同文明水平的人的战斗能力,例如祖鲁人和英国人,因为他们发展不同的技能并强调使他们在战斗风格上取得成功的品质,并且不优先考虑其他人,从而导致不同的优势和劣势的概况。

    我认为,这就是为什么“从整体上”比较战斗团队可能最有意义的原因。

    日本人本身比朝鲜人或中国北方人身体更小更弱,就像古罗马人对日耳曼部落一样,但他们现代的战斗风格和精神使他们作为一个群体更加强大。

    然而,日本人和美国人使用的是相同的战斗方式——因此可以更好地评估“团队”和军队——而不是个人——的战斗能力。

    我听说过战斗精神——它很复杂。 愿意死并不能完美地反映战斗中的决心。

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  178. AaronB 说:
    @Epigon

    好吧,有些东西肯定只是疏忽。

    日本人确实太依赖“精神”了——我对此表示同情,但它可以走得很远。

  179. anonymous[145]• 免责声明 说:
    @Epigon

    日本人甚至与中国人进行了斗争(例如1938年的台儿庄,以及其他几次战斗)。 我认为即使在其他条件相同的情况下,他们也绝对与德国人不在一个联盟中。 今天,许多日本人坦率地承认,一般的战争并不适合他们。 他们的“孤岛心态”对他们打仗没有任何好处。

  180. tamo 说:

    这么说吧,如果日本有和美国一样的技术水平、工业生产能力、人口规模,大量生产同样质量的战争物资,那战争的结果可能会不一样。 我不认为日本三菱零式从根本上比美国飞机好。 日本只是对飞机进行了调整,以通过减少其整体重量来增加其机动性,牺牲装甲来换取油箱(致命的弱点)等。 这些东西是小噱头,不是技术突破。

    我同意你的观点,只有士兵的勇敢战斗精神不能赢得战争。 卓越的技术、庞大的工业生产能力、战术、战略是赢得战争的最重要因素。 那我只说日军的凶猛战斗心态,没有别的。

  181. tamo 说:
    @AaronB

    我已经回复你了。 很抱歉,我第一次回复时忘记点击回复。

  182. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    是的,很难比较不同文明水平的人的战斗能力,例如祖鲁人和英国人,因为他们发展不同的技能并强调使他们在战斗风格上取得成功的品质,并且不优先考虑其他人,从而导致不同的优势和劣势的概况。

    我明白了。解决问题的精神方法。

    我认为它更物质化。 技术。 火药……线膛枪管……后膛装填金属弹药筒……线膛炮(爆炸炮弹,然后是罐子和葡萄弹)和最后一个,但绝对是最少的,加特林机枪。

    我认为,这就是为什么“从整体上”比较战斗团队可能最有意义的原因。

    我使用克劳塞维茨。 战斗只是战争的一部分。 战争是“延伸……”。 一方可以更好地战斗,但仍然会输掉一场战争。

    日本人本身的身体比朝鲜人或中国北方人更小更弱,就像古罗马人对日耳曼部落一样,但他们现代的战斗风格和精神使他们作为一个群体更加强大。

    一个有趣的观点。 我的印象是,在现代战争中,膛线枪管对“大小无关紧要”的影响比目标的大小要大。我的意思是战斗人员。

    然而,日本人和美国人使用相同的战斗方式——因此可以更好地评估“团队”和军队——而不是个人——的战斗能力。

    不会知道。
    恕我直言,他们甚至在小单位战术层面也使用了不同的“风格”。
    一是靠冲击动作; 另一个火力。

    我听说过战斗精神——它很复杂。 愿意死并不能完美地反映战斗中的决心。

    当然,它最终是复杂的。 从业余拳击手到现代士兵,任何拳击手都会问的永恒问题:什么时候该放弃? 死有没有意义?
    我的看法:在大多数情况下没有。 当然,也有例外。

    至于日本人,则没有。 对他们来说,这也不例外。 这是一条规则。
    而且,从根本上说,它适得其反。

    那个剧院里的美国人(和盟友)没有对日本人产生尊重。 他们愤怒地轻视了他们。

    现在......关于一些相关话题的严肃对话无法在这个开放的酒吧里进行。
    值得思考的是:战斗、杀戮和死亡是为了什么?

    这是基本问题,恕我直言。 日本人也没有很好的答案。 恕我直言。

    最终,它是为人们服务的。 自己的人。 一名士兵对自己的人民负有最终责任(再次......呵呵......恕我直言)。 不是为了女王,不是为了意识形态、宗教、自己的荣誉……皇帝……普世道德……无论如何……最终的责任在于自己的人民。

    所有行动都以此为标准。 全部产品. 恕我直言……呵呵……

    那么……这种对待自己生活的态度,在战斗中,真的为日本人服务吗? 简单的问题。
    不是皇帝。 不是日本社会的顶层。 不是武士道精神。 小……小……日常人。
    在我的书中……不。 很多情况下恰恰相反。

    我的看法……呵呵……当然很多人不会在这里分享。 我不能说不在乎......我的意思是......会关心它。

    • 哈哈: tamo
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  183. Anonymous[112]• 免责声明 说:

    然而,为了荣誉、真理和善而冒着生命危险是自荷马以来所有以英雄主义为基础的传统伦理的核心。 我们终将死去,何不冒死活得精彩,何必执着于不值得的生活? 禅宗和武士的精神是不同的,但同时又增加了对行动的承诺和世俗的超然。 武士,就像斯多葛派一样,坚定自己的意志,竭尽所能,知道他只有自己的头脑可以工作,并且完全脱离了必然的不可预测的结果。

    什么是荣誉、真理和善? 对于大约 1900 年的日本来说,这是帝国主义和征服。 (在这方面与西方没有什么不同)

    世俗的超然是好的,但是将这种超然用于什么目标? 一场将导致数百万人苦难的大火?

    我认为对于一种以军事文化为核心的文化来说,庆祝有点过头了。 武士发现禅宗是一种方便的哲学和宗教,因为它是不道德的,它的信条帮助士兵杀戮和死亡,而不用担心和悔恨。

    我不知道为什么这应该是一个大赞的理由。 除非你也喜欢屠宰并在这里找到有用的东西。

    日本是东方相对较晚的开发商,岛屿的统一也比其邻国晚得多。 如果有足够的时间过去,武士将在下层阶级中占据应有的位置,就像它与邻国一样,随着永久和平的开始。

    我认为日本文化的问题在于它缺乏足够的儒家思想。 它没有平衡佛教(灵性)和神道(民族主义)所必需的道德脊椎。

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @anonymous
  184. @Sam Coulton

    他们继续这样做是因为该网站运作的种族主义命令。 印度和伊朗文明早在雅利安“征服者”(移民)到来之前就已经建立,这不是他们可以忍受的。 事实上,在雅利安人到来之后,印度考古学仅在公元前四世纪发现城市化与前雅利安哈拉潘文化相媲美。

  185. @Epigon

    对; 日本的战争风格是犯罪无能。 他们于 1942 年在新加坡达到顶峰,从那里开始走下坡路。 他们唯一真正的战略天才山下智之在占领新加坡后被送往蒙古边境,因为他的军队上级害怕他变得太受欢迎和太强大。

  186. utu 说:
    @Epigon

    德国本可以彻底瘫痪……

    显然,杀人的想法对英国皇家空军更有吸引力。 一种即时的满足感。 此外,他们选择只在夜间飞行,因此不可能进行精确轰炸。 必须让美国人相信他们在白天的任务中试图进行精确轰炸,但在开发远程护航战斗机​​之前,他们的损失是惊人的。 30% 的美国二战死者与空军有关。

  187. utu 说:
    @Steve Naidamast

    “法西斯主义”一词毫无意义。 这是一种受到斯大林主义宣传推广和普及的谩骂,几乎被每个人所接受和采用。 布尔什维克的恶魔学竟然如此成功并成为一种普遍的恶魔学,这告诉你他们对普遍词汇学的影响。 我们生活在一个部分由布尔什维克建造的世界中。 下一个问题是,布尔什维克主义在多大程度上是美国主义的必要邪恶孪生兄弟。

  188. utu 说:
    @Cowboy

    那么,如果日本在 7 年 1941 月 XNUMX 日袭击苏联,那么您认为日本会在 ZOG 永远不会让她避免的战争中获得更好的机会吗?

    不是 7 月 23 日而是 XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日,然后他们将有更好的机会帮助德国。 在亚洲,他们应该只专注于英国、法国和荷兰的殖民地,而将美国排除在外。 你没有做罗斯福希望你做的事。 迫使罗斯福更加努力地说服美国人参战,他曾多次承诺他不会这样做。

    就德国而言,日本被证明是完全无用的盟友。

    • 回复: @Cowboy
  189. Alden 说:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    我会问我的朋友。 她是一个。 她在一个有 800 年历史的家庭大院长大。她告诉我一些有关武士文化的事情。 他们非常在意展示和其他人的想法。 非常非常自豪的房子“花园是房子的面孔”。 始终穿着得体,举止得体。 他们太嚣张了?? 关于他们的意见和判断。 她和她的兄弟从小就相信他们必须比其他人表现得更好,然后他们才会比其他人更好。

    她爱特朗普,因为他不是民主党人。 她和她的女儿为他的竞选筹款。她是一个非常爱国的美国人,也是一个自豪的日本沙文主义者。

    我会问她有没有英文书。

  190. Alden 说:
    @Bliss

    非常正确。 古代波斯没有佛教。 琐罗亚斯德教虽然不是最古老的波斯宗教。 我不知道之前发生了什么。

  191. Alden 说:
    @Malla

    穆斯林之所以喜欢维京人,是因为维京人将自己的人民,尤其是女童作为奴隶卖给了穆斯林。

    • 回复: @Malla
  192. Alden 说:
    @Honor is Loyalty

    波兰可能不同意波兰人和德国人是兄弟。 摩擦并非始于 1939 年。

  193. Alden 说:
    @S

    谢谢你的链接

    • 回复: @S
  194. Seraphim 说:
    @Digital Samizdat

    尼采是一个加密犹太人。 在任何情况下,一个知识分子的沙布斯-戈伊,在许多犹太人(无论是否真诚地)皈依基督教的社会环境中,继续对犹太人犹豫不决的公开攻击基督教。

  195. @Malla

    玛拉

    没有人真正同意德拉威人来自哪里。 其他到达印度北部的人都来自伊朗、阿富汗或俄罗斯南部草原。 当然,印度东部有尼泊尔语和孟加拉语的混合物。

    Sythian 来自庞蒂亚克草原。 当然他们是白人,但他们实际上只是一群与拉杰普特国王达成协议并嫁给当地人的雇佣兵。

    当然,如果你曾经接触过高种姓的北印度婆罗门,你就会看到他们的斯拉夫血统——尽管今天他们过于懦弱,但他们仍然拥有俄罗斯人和乌克兰人的粗壮身材、身高和宽阔的斯拉夫颧骨。 他们究竟如何变得如此聪明可能是优生学的问题。 他们的智商可能比普通斯拉夫人高。

    • 回复: @Malla
  196. Alden 说:
    @utu

    路德想通过强调旧约来使犹太人皈依基督教,但没有奏效。 他访问了罗马。 我一直想知道他在访问期间是否与犹太人有过接触。

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  197. Alden 说:
    @Epigon

    首先是斯堪的纳维亚人,然后是德国人是欧洲人民中最顺从的人。 任何在这些国家生活过的人都知道。

  198. Seraphim 说:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    事实是,如果基督教是“白人的错误宗教”,那是因为所谓的“白人”实际上是“英国以色列人”,即隐秘犹太人。 他们的宗教实际上是犹太教。

  199. @Alden

    ALDEN

    它在一定程度上起作用。 改革宗的犹太人似乎融入了路德教的某些方面。

    • 回复: @Alden
  200. @Anonymous

    “日本是东方相对较晚的开发商,这些岛屿的统一也比其邻国晚得多。 如果有足够的时间过去,武士将在下层阶级中占据应有的位置,就像它与邻国一样,随着永久和平的开始。”

    您是否愿意通过参考日本及其“邻国”——尤其是中国的实际时间表来充实这一点。 谁是其他国家的武士?

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Anonymous
  201. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    第一点:是的。

    第二点:我不知道。 最早的经文似乎非常多样化。 在某些情况下,佛陀表现为一个对诸神不感兴趣的现实主义-悲观主义哲学家。

  202. Cowboy [又名“ Kartoffelstampfer”] 说:
    @utu

    就德国而言,日本被证明是完全无用的盟友。

    意大利也一样,西班牙更是如此。 佛朗哥本可以将英格兰踢出直布罗陀并关闭地中海的英国海军。 马耳他会倒下,苏伊士也会倒下。

    珍珠港事件发生后,希特勒立即单方面向美国宣战,许多人以此为借口声称希特勒是罗斯柴尔德的傀儡。

    如果日本在 7 月 XNUMX 日对苏联宣战,我认为这将导致斯大林的彻底精神崩溃和莫斯科的垮台。 斯大林不必将预备队向西移动,而是不得不将他的预备队向东移动。

    我同意日本应该专注于英国和荷兰的殖民地,而不是上罗斯福的诱饵。 我还读到,我相信在 UR,荷兰和英国的炼油厂在日本占领期间从未遭到轰炸或关闭,因此缺乏资源似乎是谣言。

    这一切都与该主题的主题有关,因为如果日本是他们的支持者声称的“好”战士,她就会宣战。 但话又说回来,我们必须记住,日本在 25 年前向德皇宣战,并获得了德国大部分远东殖民地的补偿。 从这个意义上说,日本的失败可能只是因果报应。

  203. Seraphim 说:
    @Anon

    德国人认为他们在希特勒之前是一个优越的种族。 他只是告诉他们他们想听什么,这就是他们投票给他的原因。他们在第一次世界大战中充满了同样的疯狂想法,他们已经愚蠢到再次参加。

  204. Seraphim 说:
    @Malla

    哦,又不是。 人们无法停止一遍又一遍地排泄同一种病。 基督教神话,基督教的起源……

  205. Half-Jap 说:
    @peterAUS

    很久以前,当我被提到 Piri Reis 地图时,它就开始了,该地图声称描绘了一个无冰的南极洲北部。 陪审团对此不以为然,但这让我很感兴趣,并了解了古希腊人和他们之前的其他人对天文学的理解,如果没有别的,而且似乎无处不在。
    这种皇室符号起源于古代的想法是基于电子宇宙学与来自世界各地的符号学和神话相结合的。 一部引起我兴趣的纪录片是《异形天空的象征》:

    幸存者的部分来自各种来源,但在废墟中学习复杂的建筑工程,比如 Harappan,当然让我感到好奇,以及在最后一个冰河时代结束之前在地面上的水下城市。
    类似风格的 ziggurat,s。 美国的金字塔和印度尼西亚的金字塔肯定很奇怪,而且抱着腹部的摩艾石像有点类似于在 gobleki tepe(土耳其/fmr. 亚美尼亚)发现的抱着腹部的雕像。
    说到这一点,我们应该相信一群狩猎/采集者在 12000 年前竖立了巨大的石头结构。
    有很多我们无法再知道了,但是还有很多东西让我们想知道在我们从解剖学上存在的大约 300,000 年中,经历了几次灾难,我们忘记了多少.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @peterAUS
    , @Anounder
  206. S 说:
    @Alden

    别客气。

    冯·贝尔彻 (Fon Belcher) 对 1776 年革命的背景和相关参与者有着非凡的洞察力。 更多的人应该阅读他的作品。

  207. anon[396]• 免责声明 说:
    @Jake

    你忘记了基督教对白人的战争。

    并查找术语 “北方十字军东征” 一些时间,了解一些关于犹太人崇拜者对白人的战争。

  208. @Jon Halpenny

    在德国,二战前日本人被称为东方普鲁士人。我的祖母来自柯尼斯堡(现加里宁格勒)的一个军人家庭,她的兄弟们不想入伍,他们的床头柜上放了左轮手枪,这意思是在日出之前射击自己或离开。这一定是在 2 年左右。他们都没有留下来,再也没有消息了。所以是的,当然,精神上有差异,但也有相似之处。

  209. @S

    谢谢你的链接。 非常感激。
    我熟悉召唤希特勒。 提交人在美国的职业生涯似乎受到阻碍,并在意大利继续从事其他科目。
    诚实的历史学家通常的待遇。
    阅读你指出的材料,我现在有太多的联想,但它非常有趣。
    顺便说一句,我有些惊讶地了解到,Poesche 还在 1878 年写了一本关于雅利安人的书,并将他们的起源放在白俄罗斯和乌克兰的 Rotinka 沼泽地,因为那里有很多白化病。
    只有一个协会与新罗马。
    1853 年是美国(被动地)欧洲人强迫日本签署贸易协定的一年,美国使用炮艇外交。 后来发生的事情是日本向军国主义方向发展,据我所知,这间接受到英国的鼓励。 这不仅仅是日本对美国无端攻击的羞辱性反应。 这是典型的英国平衡战略力量的又一个例子。 英国称他们为世界那个地区的警察。 休斯敦张伯伦的兄弟将教日本学生他们自己的母语。 英国为他们建造了军舰,让他们与更大的竞争对手俄罗斯抗衡。

    • 回复: @S
    , @S
    , @S
  210. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    是的,我知道,据信奥塞梯人与古代阿兰人密切相关。

  211. @peterAUS

    “那个战区的美国人(和盟友)没有对日本人产生尊重。 他们愤怒地轻视了他们。”

    我想说,二战后美国人对待日本比对待德国人更尊重。 例如,日本天皇被留在原地,并非常注意尊重他,不要玷污他的名誉。 与盟军对战败德国的待遇形成鲜明对比。

    • 回复: @Malla
  212. Malla 说:
    @Alden

    维京人出卖了自己的人民

    在某种程度上是的,在某种程度上不是。 维京人主要出售的斯拉夫人在种族意义上不是他们自己的人,但在种族意义上绝对是他们自己的人。 但是对于阿拉伯人来说,维京人似乎在出售自己的人民,因为从阿拉伯人的角度来看,所有欧洲人/白人或多或少都是同一个人。

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Epigon
    , @Anon
  213. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    当然他们是白人,但他们实际上只是一群与拉杰普特国王达成协议并嫁给当地人的雇佣兵。

    当斯基泰人到来时(现在修改后的日期可以追溯到公元前 800 年),没有什么叫做拉杰普特。 拉杰普特人是一个晚得多的现象。 斯基泰人娶了当地妇女(在某些情况下甚至是皮肤黝黑的部落比尔妇女),他们的后代(现为棕色高加索人)在印度北部形成了许多战士刹帝利氏族。

    没有人真正同意德拉威人来自哪里。

    现在人们认为,德拉威人是印度河流域文明人的残余。 印度河流域文明是由高加索伊朗小麦农民和土著黑人澳大利亚猎人采集丛林居民混合形成的。 随着雅利安人的到来,一些印度河流域人要么被吸收到新社会中(语言从德拉威语变为雅利安人),而其他印度河流域人则进一步深入印度次大陆的南部,进一步与狩猎采集者混合南方的人口。 因此,随着黑人狩猎采集人口基因的增加,印度河流域的人们变得更黑,但在此过程中,他们将文明带到了印度南部。 这些研究没有研究南亚人口中的东亚成分,但其​​他研究表明南亚有一些东亚血统,例如西藏人和柬埔寨稻农。

    印度和南亚、中亚其他地区的人从哪里来

    《早期印第安人》作者说,由于两个误解而导致的对雅利安人移民的敏感性

    他们的智商可能比普通斯拉夫人高。

    你确定吗? 那么,为什么俄罗斯和波兰大学的学生经常在 IBM ACM 竞赛等编程竞赛中击败以婆罗门为主的印度理工学院 (IIT) 团队呢?

    https://icpc.baylor.edu/community/results-2019

    43年第2019届国际大学生程序设计大赛世界总决赛最终排名

    您可以查看早些年的获奖者。

    https://icpc.baylor.edu/community/world-finals-champions

    看看斯拉夫和汉族球队是如何统治的。 莫斯科国立大学、圣彼得堡ITMO大学、圣彼得堡国立大学、浙江大学、华沙大学。
    如果您查看结果,您会发现多年来,IIT 团队(主要是上层种姓占主导地位)甚至无法解决一个问题,并且只获得了荣誉奖。 此外,大多数俄罗斯和波兰团队成员的名字似乎主要是土著斯拉夫外邦人,很少有德系犹太人,尽管我不太确定。

  214. Anonymous[526]• 免责声明 说:

    “进步主义”可能是白人最好的宗教。 这是最能适应他们的虚荣心,他们的地位贩卖,他们不断需要感觉自己比下层阶级优越的人,他们需要在没有任何实际努力的情况下感到有道德,他们更喜欢外表而不是现实,虚假的礼貌而不是实际温暖、友谊和感觉社区,他们的肤浅,他们缺乏与其他白人的兄弟情谊,他们缺乏真正的思想自由(不是言论,思想),他们明显需要盲目追随最新的时尚或意识形态(通常由犹太人),他们完全无法与精神病患者和蛇油推销员打交道,他们像羊一样接受任何流行的或被从“多元文化主义”到“同性恋婚姻”的权力认为正确的东西,他们完全缺乏理解,尤其是女性,金发或更高创造力的基因是特殊和罕见的,如果他们与黑人或阿拉伯人交配就不会遗传给后代,他们完全无知其他部落或种族的想法,他们不断假设每个人都和他们一样,他们需要的只是“教育”或“同化”,他们的家长作风,女权主义,他们的所有主义。
    两千多年来,基督教试图修复白人,但失败了。 尼采-达尔文的新异教也在更短的时间内(约 100 年)失败了。 进步主义是白人最好的宗教,是让他们更快乐的宗教。 这可能会使他们变成极少数,但谁在乎呢。 这是他们想要的。 “更少但更好的白人。”

    前白人。

    • 回复: @Malla
  215. Malla 说:
    @Jon Halpenny

    我想说,二战后美国人对待日本比对待德国人更尊重。

    那是真实的。 对于盟国来说,二战就是摧毁第三帝国。 日本和意大利是边秀。 日本帝国充其量被精英们认为是共产主义在东欧亚大陆的计划传播的主要威胁。 顺便说一句,如果墨索里尼像佛朗哥那样行事并且不与第三帝国结盟,意大利也会被孤立。 WW2 不是要传播民主(大声笑,告诉波兰人和其他东欧人或朝鲜人)或摧毁法西斯主义(西班牙除外)。 这是关于摧毁第三帝国。

    • 回复: @S
    , @Che Guava
  216. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    这在过去两个世纪的基督教传教活动中具有一定的基础。 传教士喋喋不休地谈论黑人奴隶制、与中国的鸦片贸易,并在一些被上帝遗弃的疟疾肆虐的丛林中为一些野蛮人建造医院和学校,而忽略了回家的贫困白人孩子爬烟囱清理他们的困境。

    • 回复: @Anon
  217. @Cowboy

    1939 年,希特勒批准了《纳粹-苏联互不侵犯条约》。 该条约是在日军在满洲边境与红军进行激战时签订的。 日本人输掉了那场战斗。 日本当时非常痛苦,因为他们的盟友当时与苏联签署了和平条约。

    • 回复: @Cowboy
  218. Malla 说:
    @Cowboy

    詹姆斯·佩洛夫(James Perloff)在你的电视上有很多关于二战主题的好视频,甚至假设罗斯福让美国与日本帝国开战,以防止他真正害怕的事情,日本帝国从东方攻击苏联。 德国西部进攻加上日本东部进攻对斯大林来说真的是一场噩梦。 共产主义间谍理查德·佐尔格通知苏联,日本在不久的将来不会攻击苏联。 这些信息加上对日本代码的阅读使斯大林能够在莫斯科战役期间将 2 个师、18 辆坦克和 1,700 多架飞机从西伯利亚和远东转移到西线对抗西方轴心国。
    除此之外,日本人还签署了一份名为 苏日中立条约 1941 年,日本政府愚蠢地相信斯大林会遵守这一条约。 斯大林甚至继续向日本人讲述“亚洲团结”之类的东西。

    想象一下,当 8 年 1945 月 9 日,苏联外长维亚切斯拉夫·莫洛托夫告诉日本大使佐藤直武,苏联已经对日本宣战,从 XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日起,苏联政府将认为自己与日本处于战争状态时,日本大使佐藤直武的想法是怎样的? .

    • 回复: @Sparkon
  219. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    法国仍然在经济上占据非洲,用非洲金融共同体法郎剥削她。

    我们又来了,邪恶的怀特潜入瓦坎达抢劫可怜的当地人。 非前法兰西帝国非洲国家是否比前法兰西帝国非洲国家做得更好? 埃塞俄比亚是一个从未真正殖民过富饶的瓦坎达土地的国家吗? 这甚至是在埃塞俄比亚成为极少数拥有真正文明的黑人国家之一之后,这些国家拥有真正的古代石头结构。

    就法兰西帝国而言,法国殖民化的成本超过了三年中的两年。
    在大约一个世纪的时间里,每年平均有 2.1% 的法国 GDP 用于法国殖民地……
    这比经合组织 3 年为官方发展援助(GDP 的 1969%)制定的建议高出 0.7 倍。
    这总体上相当于 7 欧洲复苏计划(他们在法国所说的“马歇尔计划”),该计划是由法国提供给殖民地的,而不是借给殖民地的。
    这是法国历史学家证实的事实(参见雅克·马赛和丹尼尔·勒弗夫的著作)。

  220. S 说:
    @Malla

    是的,德国主要是二战。

    而且,正如你所暗示的,他们将不得不及时追赶日本。 有趣的是,日本在历史上一直被视为远东的英国。

  221. Cowboy [又名“ Kartoffelstampfer”] 说:
    @Jon Halpenny

    好吧,在日本被粉碎后签署了互不侵犯条约 哈尔欣戈尔. 签订互不侵犯条约后,斯大林仍继续占领波罗的海、比萨拉比亚,并袭击芬兰。 德国同意斯大林可以拥有所有这些国家,也可以拥有满洲。 这是一个互不侵犯条约而不是联盟。

    75 月,当斯大林暗中寻求与希特勒结盟时,朱可夫在前线附近集结了强大的力量。 当德国外交部长里宾特洛甫飞往莫斯科签署纳粹-苏联条约时,斯大林释放了朱可夫。 未来的红军元帅揭示了他后来在斯大林格勒、库尔斯克和其他地方采用的具有毁灭性影响的战术:集结步兵和大炮的联合武器攻击,将敌人固定在中央前线,同时强大的装甲编队包围敌人的侧翼,包围,最终在歼灭战中将他击溃。 超过 XNUMX% 的日本前线地面部队在战斗中阵亡。

    文章继续说:

    1941 年 1941 月,德国入侵俄罗斯,在战争的最初几个月,红军惨败,许多人认为苏联处于崩溃的边缘。 德国敦促日本入侵苏联远东地区,为诺门罕战役的失败报仇,并尽可能多地夺取苏联领土。 但在 XNUMX 年 XNUMX 月,美国和英国对日本实施石油禁运,威胁要让日本战争机器挨饿。 为了避免这种情况, 帝国海军决心夺取石油资源丰富的荷属东印度群岛。 荷兰在一年前被征服。 英国正在为自己的生命而战。 只有美国太平洋舰队挡道。 然而,正如德国所敦促的那样,日本军队中的许多人热衷于攻击苏联。 当红军被闪电战摧毁时,他们想为诺门罕的失败报仇。 日本陆军和海军领导人在一系列帝国战争会议上就这个问题进行了辩论。

    把国家拖入战争的似乎总是海军,这不是很有趣吗? 丘吉尔和罗斯福也都来自海军部。

    • 回复: @Jon Halpenny
  222. Alden 说:
    @Cowboy

    西班牙在二战中保持中立。 不是任何人的盟友。

  223. Alden 说:
    @Half-Jap

    你读过格雷厄姆汉考克的书吗?

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
    , @peterAUS
  224. utu 说:
    @Cowboy

    意大利也一样,西班牙更是如此。 佛朗哥本可以将英格兰踢出直布罗陀并关闭地中海的英国海军。

    佛朗哥的计算结果证明是正确的,西班牙人应该永远感谢他让西班牙远离战争。

    与日本不同,意大利是一个很好的盟友,为德国的战争提供了许多军队。 但意大利并不需要那场战争,墨索里尼应该效仿佛朗哥。 是的,他们多次搞砸了,给德国人带来了麻烦,但这是意料之中的。 意大利敦促德国在被占领土上克制自己的行为,并多次出面干预,让一些人从集中营中获释,或者让他们的生命受到保护,这对德国产生了一些积极的影响。

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  225. Alden 说:
    @Malla

    他们在芬兰进行的奴隶袭击如此之多,芬兰人仍然记得,芬兰在其历史的大部分时间里都是瑞典的殖民地。

    他们还偷走了斯拉夫人并不意味着他们不卖掉自己的妇女和孩子。

    斯拉夫语是形容词。

  226. Epigon 说:
    @Malla

    谁跟你说这些废话的?
    直到 12 世纪,Christian Norse 仍在继续出售他们的异教徒亲属。
    到那时,斯拉夫人/斯拉夫人早已被基督教化,罗斯的公国强大,斯拉夫并控制着路线,因此没有北欧人可以将斯拉夫人卖给穆斯林。

    阅读这些历史叙述会非常有趣,所以请提供它们。

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  227. Cowboy [又名“ Kartoffelstampfer”] 说:
    @utu

    佛朗哥的计算结果证明是正确的,西班牙人应该永远感谢他让西班牙远离战争。

    真的吗? 自从他去世以来,西班牙一直在执行佛朗哥倒退,他们最近投票允许基本上任何犹太人声称西班牙公民身份,因为他们在宗教裁判所期间寻找加密犹太人的罪过。 换句话说,就像欧洲其他所有国家一样,西班牙最终输给了 ZOG,但由于佛朗哥打双方而不是应有的支持德国而出现了时间滞后。

    我写这篇文章是因为如果没有德国的帮助佛朗哥永远不会赢得内战。

    如果佛朗哥支持希特勒并占领直布罗陀,谁知道西班牙现在会成为什么样的国家。 没有欧盟,没有联合国,没有欧洲央行,没有国际货币基金组织,没有谢克尔欧元。 也许他们甚至还会有男人有足够的睾丸激素,他们有足够的勇气进入斗牛场,一头愤怒的大公牛冲向他。 取而代之的是,西班牙人变得更像是被他们的奇卡犬左右的犹太贵宾犬。

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  228. S 说:
    @Peter Grafström

    我熟悉魔术希特勒。 作者似乎在美国的职业生涯受到了阻碍,并在意大利继续研究其他主题……诚实的历史学家通常的待遇。

    是的,当我阅读这本书时,我惊喜地发现它呈现了对二战的非传统和公平的审视。 尽管有这个标题,但并不是美国/英国创造了阿道夫希特勒,而是他们在经济上“培养”了他和他已经存在的国家社会主义运动,以达到他们自己愤世嫉俗的目的,即未来在资本主义和资本主义之间粉碎一个不屈服的德国。共产主义尽可能彻底和完整,同时在身体和物质上严重伤害俄罗斯和俄罗斯人民,“双重”。

    难怪美国/英国的机构鄙视这位意大利作家。 一个勇敢的人。

    顺便说一句,我有些惊讶地了解到,Poesche 还在 1878 年写了一本关于雅利安人的书,并将他们的起源放在白俄罗斯和乌克兰的 Rotinka 沼泽地,因为那里有很多白化病。

    是的,我对此也有些惊讶。

    Theodore Poesche 是一个有趣的人。 作为一个年轻的 48 多岁的“1850 年代”,他逃离德国到伦敦(伦敦似乎总是在这些事情中占有重要地位),大约在 XNUMX 年,在那里呆了大约一年,人们认为他很可能在那里遇到了革命伙伴马志尼。 然后,他前往美国,与查尔斯·戈普合作,撰写并出版了这本非凡的地缘政治书籍 新罗马.

    虽然 Poesche 无疑是非常聪明的,但我怀疑他完全靠自己获得了在他的书中展示的对美国/英国的深刻地缘政治理解。

    相反,我的怀疑是,Poesche 在伦敦时被介绍给了一些非常有权势的人的代表,这些人“让他参与”了世界未来的计划,即使在那时,这些计划已经相当成熟。 然后他被这些人“委托”去美国写一本关于这个主题的书。

    如果是这样,他将获得的轻松的美国政府华盛顿特区工作可能是“为他的麻烦”支付的一种形式。

    后来,IIRC,Poesche 将被召回德国直接与俾斯麦本人协商,并就某些事项向德国政府提供建议。

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

  229. @Cowboy

    “好吧,在日本在 Khalkhin Gol 被击溃后签署了互不侵犯条约。”

    不,它是在战斗激烈时签署的。

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  230. S 说:
    @Peter Grafström

    只有一个协会与新罗马。 1853 年是美国(被动地)欧洲人强迫日本签署贸易协定的一年,美国使用炮舰外交。

    在下面的摘录中 新罗马 这本书特别提到了佩里的使命。

    这张照片是麦克阿瑟将军于 1945 年 1853 月接受日本帝国投降的照片。背景中的美国国旗是佩里海军上将的原始旗舰旗帜,这是他在 XNUMX 年为开放日本对美国的贸易而进行的海军远征时随身携带的。

    佩里的旗帜是从美国带来的,并安装在密苏里号航空母舰上,专门用于“见证”日本向美国正式投降(并延伸到英国)的象征性目的。

    “对日本和中国的远征已经开始执行其使命,即打破美国企业进入这些被围起来的财富和文明杂志的大门。”

    新罗马(1853)–第76-77页

    收购桑威奇群岛[夏威夷]的条约已经缔结,只待批准。 这些岛屿是这个大陆和亚洲之间的第一站; 从地理上讲,他们很难被称为美国前哨。 日本和中国的远征已经开始执行其使命,即打破美国企业进入这些被围起来的财富和文明杂志的大门。 但是,闪闪发光的旗帜可能会在这些遥远地区的另一个国家上找到它的第一个安息之地。

    这本书描述了美国国旗的象征意义。

    “在 hoc signo 文森特!” 从拉丁语大致翻译为“在这个标志上你将征服!”

    从第 119 页 新罗马:

    “时代的痕迹清晰无误,《新罗马》唤醒了她的使命,并在执行时下定决心。 让她在陆地和海洋上举起她的星辰旗帜,这是对暴君的毁灭和对人民的救赎的象征,他们可能会被说服:文森特先生!

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

  231. anonymous[145]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    我想,是不是缺乏足够的儒学剂量。 它没有平衡佛教(灵性)和神道(民族主义)所必需的道德脊椎。

    神道教、佛教和儒教的相互作用对于吉田兼友(Yuitsu Shinto 的创始人)以及其他许多人的思想来说是相当重要的。 顺便说一句,神道教不是民族主义。 它是日本传统的万物有灵宗教/文化; 日本相当于中国的民间宗教和韩国的神道。 有趣的是要注意各个城市(镰仓、松江等)的个别神社、寺庙、象征、文化遗址和节日对佛教和神道教的影响。

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  232. S 说:
    @Peter Grafström

    后来的发展是日本在 英国间接鼓励的军国主义方向 正如我记得的那样。 这不仅仅是 日本对美国无端攻击的侮辱性反应。 这是典型的英国平衡战略力量的又一个例子。

    还有一个可能的例子,自 1776 年英美战略性错误分裂以来,美国和英国几乎无一例外地对世界扮演“好警察”/“坏警察”,甚至对自己的人们。 当然,这两个大国一直在同一个团队中。

    自 1950 年代后期以来,俄罗斯和中国及其战略错误分裂(也称为“中苏”分裂)存在着一种非常相似且相似的情况。

    我在这里提醒爱尔兰共和国,完全可以理解,不信任英国。 但随后决定信任美国(!!)和比尔克林顿(!)在爱尔兰与英国的“和平进程”中充当非偏向中间人。

    去搞清楚。 :-/

  233. Sparkon 说:
    @Malla

    罗斯福让美国与日本帝国开战,以防止他真正害怕的事情,日本帝国从东方进攻苏联。 德国西部进攻加上日本东部进攻对斯大林来说真的是一场噩梦。 共产主义间谍理查德·佐尔格通知苏联,日本在不久的将来不会攻击苏联。 这些信息加上对日本代码的阅读使斯大林能够在莫斯科战役期间将 18 个师、1,700 辆坦克和 1,500 多架飞机从西伯利亚和远东转移到西线对抗西方轴心国。

    T这几乎是标准的叙述,但这都是宣传。

    奈杰尔·阿斯基(Nigel Askey)揭穿了西伯利亚师转移到莫斯科的神话, 在巴巴罗萨战役的前六个月中,任何时候红军编队都没有从远东或西伯利亚向西线转移.

    所以问题是; 如果不可能有成群的新到西伯利亚或东线部队,谁在1941年XNUMX月阻止了德国人? 答案是大量新动员和部署的师和旅. 苏联陆地模型显示,182个步兵师,43个民兵步兵师,62个坦克师,50个机械化师,55个坦克旅,21个骑兵师,11个步兵旅,41个海军步兵旅,11个海军步兵旅,1941个陆军,XNUMX个方面军许多其他单位在 XNUMX 年下半年新动员和部署(MD)。
    [...]
    毫无疑问,1941年的苏联动员计划简直是历史上规模最大、速度最快的战时动员。 组成这些部队的来自苏联各地的众多普通苏联士兵拯救了这一天,绝对不是 1941 年 XNUMX 月之后向西转移的现有部队,或者几乎不存在的神话般的西伯利亚师。

    http://www.operationbarbarossa.net/the-siberian-divisions-and-the-battle-for-moscow-in-1941-42/

    到 200 年 1941 月,新动员的红军师已超过 62 个,再加上许多其他强大的新编队,如 18 个坦克旅,斯大林完全没有必要通过调动 XNUMX 个坦克旅来削弱或削弱西伯利亚或远东的部队。在整个战争期间,斯塔夫卡继续加强远东的部队。

    日本人在西伯利亚或苏联远东地区几乎没有什么可以利用的东西,值得他们花时间向那个方向进攻,无论如何,正如你所注意到的,苏联人和日本人在哈尔金戈尔之后签署了停火协议,并在直到 1945 年斯大林宣布放弃和平。

    那里 他是日本的重要间谍,但他是日本人,他的报告不是给斯大林,而是给罗斯福。 当日本舰队航行时,间谍通过中间人告诉罗斯福,珍珠港将在 7 年 1941 月 XNUMX 日遭到袭击。

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    , @Sparkon
  234. Anon[339]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    当传教士来到中国时,许多人进入了与鸦片相同的容器。 所以中国人认为他们是鸦片商人,拒绝皈依。

    一方面,在沙逊、罗斯柴尔德、塔塔和洛克菲勒的帮助下,英国人(怡和洋行)用鸦片感染了中国人。 另一方面,他们带着圣经而来。 毫不奇怪,中国人拒绝了他们的宗教信息。

    中国人怀疑外国人(白人、犹太人、印度人)是正确的。 即使在今天,共产党仍然高度排外。

    传教士希望结束鸦片贸易,这样中国人才会高兴并皈依。 出于类似的原因,他们在非洲进行了援助和慈善活动。 当人们喜欢你时,他们更容易转化。

    美国白人传教士对美国贫穷的黑人也没有那么富有同情心。 主要是因为可怜的黑人已经是基督徒,不必受贿就可以皈依。

    当传教士可以得到皈依时,他们对棕色和黑人很好。 当他们拒绝皈依时,通常他们什么也得不到。 毫不奇怪,许多非白人因经济原因而皈依。

    许多印度人在果阿信奉基督教,以得到白人的战利品,但他们的皈依不是真的。 他们仍然是秘密的印度教徒,并保留着印度教的仪式,比如种姓制度。

    在非洲,大多数黑人“基督徒”都在练习巫术和巫术。

    贿赂转化会让你的追随者质量低下。

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  235. Cowboy [又名“ Kartoffelstampfer”] 说:
    @Jon Halpenny

    “战斗”实际上是一系列的 “战斗”. 20月XNUMX日,最后的“战斗”打响:

    朱可夫决定是时候打破僵局了。 [43] 05 年 45 月 20 日凌晨 1939 点 557 分,苏联大炮和 43 架飞机[53] 袭击了日本阵地,这是苏联空军历史上的第一次战斗轰炸机攻势。 [50,000] 第 57 特种兵团的大约 25 名苏联和蒙古士兵保卫了哈尔金河东岸。 三个步兵师和一个坦克旅在集结火炮和苏联空军的支援下渡河。 一旦日军被苏军中队的进攻牵制住,苏军装甲部队便从侧翼横扫日军,从后方攻击日军,实现了经典的双重包围。 23 月 XNUMX 日,当苏军联队在诺门罕村会合时,日军第 XNUMX 师被困

    我敢打赌,到 23 月 XNUMX 日 “苏军装甲部队横扫侧翼,从后方袭击日军”. 苏联在装甲车辆、大炮和飞机方面拥有巨大的数量优势,所有这些都是西方可以为他们设计的最好的。

    莫洛托夫-里宾特洛甫条约,[a] 正式名称为《德国与苏维埃社会主义共和国联盟互不侵犯条约》,[b] 是纳粹德国与苏联于 23 年 1939 月 XNUMX 日在莫斯科签署的中立条约

    你的观点是什么?

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  236. Anon[339]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    阿富汗帕坦人不是雅利安人的后裔吗?

    • 回复: @Malla
  237. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    传教士希望结束鸦片贸易,这样中国人才会高兴并皈依。 出于类似的原因,他们在非洲进行了援助和慈善活动。 当人们喜欢你时,他们更容易转化。

    或者可能只是一些传教士希望结束鸦片贸易,因为他们认为这是不道德的。 就那么简单。

    传教士在可以皈依时对棕色人和黑人很好。 当他们拒绝转换时,通常他们什么也得不到。 毫不奇怪,许多非白人因经济原因而皈依。

    一点也不真实。 是的,这是真的,传教士确实有皈依的想法,但许多传教士为各种信仰的人甚至对皈依不感兴趣的人做了很多吃力不讨好的服务。
    例如,印度的医疗保健增长主要是因为传教士的工作。 许多传教士在印度各地被上帝遗弃的小镇开设医院,为穷人,尤其是妇女带来现代医疗服务。 为什么有人会在 1800 年代和 1900 年代离开英国或美国的德国去印度某个蹩脚的小镇生活?
    今天,这些医疗任务已经变成了印度的大医院和医学院,而那些小城镇只有很少的基督徒。 因此,他们无疑为那些甚至无意皈依的印度教徒/穆斯林带来了现代医学。 所以你的说法是错误的。

    传教士与印度医疗领域的发展
    1947年印度离开大英帝国时,印度、巴基斯坦所有病床的50%归基督教传教士所有。 显然,印度和巴基斯坦不是 50% 的基督徒。

    或者以 Amy Caemichael 为例,他在从基本上变成奴隶妓女的低种姓中拯救 dev dasis 或寺庙妇女方面发挥了重要作用。

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Carmichael

    Carmichael 最著名的作品是与女孩和年轻女性合作,其中一些人是从习俗中拯救出来的 这相当于强迫卖淫。 印度教寺庙的儿童主要是献身于众神的年轻女孩,然后通常被迫卖淫为牧师赚钱(即 Devadasi)[4]。 如果他们不想要孩子,或者如果他们需要额外的钱和更少的嘴来养活,他们经常将他们的孩子卖给寺庙。 有时,当孩子有某种残疾时,他们会被送到圣殿。 孩子们受到了可怕的对待,被迫做一些最恶心的恶行。 如果女孩长大后被送到寺庙,他们仍然会记得外面的世界。 神殿里的祭司只会一遍又一遍地让他们经历粗俗的日常生活,直到随着时间的推移,他们忘记了一切,除了他们所生活的邪恶、罪恶和黑暗。

    Carmichael 的团契将 Dohnavur 变成了一千多名儿童的避难所,否则他们将面临黯淡的未来。[7] Carmichael 经常说她拯救圣殿儿童的事工始于一个名叫 Preena 的女孩。 不顾自己的意愿成为神殿仆人后,Preena设法逃脱了。 艾米·卡迈克尔(Amy Carmichael)为她提供了庇护所,并经受住了那些坚持将女孩直接送回圣殿继续她的性任务,或者让她的家人更间接地返回圣殿的人的威胁。 此类事件的数量很快增加,从而开始了艾米·卡迈克尔的新部。 [8] 当孩子们被问到是什么吸引他们来到艾米时,他们最常回答的是“是爱。 Amma(他们称 Amy 为他们的母亲;Amma 的意思是母亲)爱我们。”[9]

    该组织成员尊重印度文化,身着印度服饰,为获救儿童取印度名字。 Carmichael 自己穿着印度衣服,用黑咖啡给皮肤染色,经常在印度炎热、尘土飞扬的道路上长途跋涉,只为拯救一个孩子免受苦难。

    在印度服务期间,艾米收到了一位年轻女士的来信,她正考虑过传教士的生活。 她问艾米:“传教士的生活是怎样的?” 艾米回信简单地说:“传教生活只是一个死亡的机会。” ”

    他们仍然是秘密的印度教徒,并保留着印度教的仪式,比如种姓制度。

    大声笑,种姓制度并没有离开印度次大陆。 它甚至存在于穆斯林和锡克教徒中。 但理论上,伊斯兰教和锡克教都反对种姓。 这就像一条困在南亚社会的水蛭。

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  238. Malla 说:
    @Epigon

    伙计,你说的对,斯拉夫人在 12 世纪变得强大,也许维京人在那个世纪卖掉了他们的异教徒亲属。 我的信息是几个世纪前维京人出售斯拉夫人时得到的。 也许在斯拉夫土地基督教化之后,这一切都改变了。

    我的资料来源是阿拉伯探险家艾哈迈德·伊本·法德兰,但那是在 9 世纪。

    “至于罗斯人,他们住在一个岛上……走一圈需要三天时间,上面覆盖着茂密的灌木丛和森林; 这是最不健康的。 ......他们骚扰斯拉夫人,使用船只到达他们; 他们把它们当作奴隶带走,然后……卖掉。 他们没有田地,只靠从斯拉夫土地上得到的东西生活。 ……当儿子出生时,父亲将手持剑上去迎接新生的婴儿; 他把它扔了,说:“我不会给你留下任何财产:你只有这把武器能提供的东西。”

    正如你提到的,也许事情在 3 个世纪内完全改变了。

  239. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    阿富汗帕坦人不是雅利安人的后裔吗?

    我认为南亚(可能除了西藏的边境地区)没有任何纯粹的雅利安人(或任何纯粹的种族)。 我们都是许多人口的混合体,几乎所有南亚人(包括丛林部落)都有一定比例的雅利安血统。 但是,是的,有些人的雅利安血统比其他人多。 一般来说,高种姓印度教徒的雅利安血统高于低种姓印度教徒,并且随着一个人越往南亚西北部,雅利安人的遗传成分就会增加。 所以是的,帕坦人的雅利安血统高于平均水平,比如北印度婆罗门。

    所有南亚人都是 ANI(祖先的北印度人)和 ASI(祖先的南印度人)的混合体。
    ASI 由高加索伊朗农民和澳大利亚狩猎采集者混合而成。
    ANI 可以说不是纯粹的雅利安人,而是由雅利安人和其他人口混合形成的。

    正如你在图中看到的那样。 Pathan 更接近 ANI 规范,其次是 Vaish 或 Vaishnav 高种姓印度教徒,其次是低种姓印度教徒 Meghawals,然后是部落 Bhils。 Bhils 更接近 ASI。

  240. Che Guava 说:
    @Malla

    许多使用火焰喷射器和燃烧弹的袭击,其规模超出了德国的任何范围(这并不是说这些不是无法衡量的野蛮,而是因为它们代表犹太复国主义,据说很好),前两次(也是唯一的)到目前为止)原子弹爆炸? 这是温和的还是旁敲侧击的待遇?

    在 Rnsenfeldt 领导下的美国处于战争状态的大部分时间里,主要对手是日本。 不是杂耍,这是主要表演。

    诺曼底登陆和后果是杂耍,苏联已经完成了所有繁重的工作,任何傻瓜都可以看到。

    • 回复: @Malla
  241. Blankaerd 说:

    我有点尊重纳粹试图填补启蒙运动造成的空白。 他们正确地确定基督教已经腐化到对白人/日耳曼人不再有益的地步。 正如其他人指出的那样,天主教会长期以来一直是文明抵御外来影响的盾牌,但在 XNUMX 年代,该机构已经腐败到无法修复,今天它既腐败又尴尬。 只有彻底清洗大部分天主教领袖的激进传统主义革命才有可能拯救教会,但我认为这种情况永远不会发生。

    • 回复: @Malla
  242. Alden 说:
    @Cowboy

    在二战期间,佛朗哥发布命令,任何在边境出现自己的犹太人都应该被允许作为难民进入。 他们只需要签署一份表格,上面写着我们曾经住在西班牙的家庭故事。

    • 回复: @fnn
  243. Malla 说:
    @Sparkon

    嘿,谢谢你提供我不知道的信息,我的意思是 Nigel Askey 的工作。 也许苏联人在与西方轴心国军队的战斗中不需要东方军队。 不过我敢肯定,斯大林还是对日本帝国的未来计划有些担忧,他肯定想确定他们没有从东方入侵苏联的计划。

    日本有一个重要的间谍,但他是日本人,他的报告不是给斯大林,而是给罗斯福。

    我写的是理查德·佐尔格,他向苏联汇报。

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sorge

    “Richard Sorge(4 年 1895 月 7 日 - 1944 年 XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日)是一位 德国记者和苏联军事情报官, 二战前和二战期间活跃,在纳粹德国和日本帝国担任德国记者卧底。 他的代号是“拉姆齐”(俄语:Рамза́й)。 许多著名人物认为他是最有成就的间谍之一。

    Sorge 最著名的是他在 1940 年和 1941 年在日本的服务,当时他提供了有关阿道夫·希特勒计划进攻苏联的信息。

    1941年XNUMX月中旬,他通知苏联,日本近期不会进攻苏联。 许多作家推测,这些信息使斯大林能够在莫斯科战役期间将 18 个师、1,700 辆坦克和 1,500 多架飞机从西伯利亚和远东转移到西线对抗西方轴心国。 然而,苏联的密码破译者已经破译了日本的外交密码,莫斯科已经从信号情报中知道,日本不会在 1941 年袭击苏联。 [1]

    一个月后,佐尔格因间谍罪在日本被捕。 他于 1944 年 1964 月遭受酷刑、被迫认罪、受审并被绞死。他于 XNUMX 年被追授苏联英雄称号。”

    ..剪…

    他的格鲁乌上级告诉佐尔格,他在日本的任务是“非常仔细地研究日本是否计划进攻苏联的问题”。[17] 在 1941 年被捕后,佐尔格告诉他的俘虏:

    多年来,这是分配给我和我的团队的最重要的职责; 说它是我在日本出差的唯一目的也没错……苏联看到满洲事变后日本军队在外交政策中的突出作用和态度,对日本计划进攻苏联的怀疑已经根深蒂固,这种怀疑如此强烈,以至于我经常表达相反的意见在莫斯科并不总是得到充分的认可……[21]

    他的指挥官警告他不要与地下日本共产党或苏联驻东京大使馆接触。”

    • 回复: @Seraphim
  244. @Cowboy

    “你的意思是什么?”

    希特勒同意纳粹-苏联条约,违反了反共产国际条约的条款。 一些日本人认为他的行为是背叛。

  245. Alden 说:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    我刚刚和我的朋友谈过。 据她所知,英语中没有真正的武士历史。 他们住的都是海军丈夫。 她检查了当地图书馆和大学图书馆,一无所获。

    有一本书没有关于武士开始的翻译。 她的祖先参与其中。 公元 1100-1200 年,蒙古人对奴隶和战利品的袭击增加了。 蒙古人在海岸建立堡垒准备征服。

    国民政府什么也没做,当地的地主和他们的佃户组织起来,把蒙古人赶出去。 然后,当地的海岸警卫队守望着当地民兵训练并准备战斗。 听起来就像罗马沦陷后欧洲人组织了地方防御一样。

    她的叔叔和父亲是二战一代。 他们都声称整个武士精神是完全虚假的。 一个叔叔是大学老师。 他总是声称,从大约 2 年起,从小学到大学的所有学校都被命令制定战士课程,并给男孩们洗脑,让他们相信为国家而死是一种荣誉

    在军队中的叔叔们声称他们被派去战斗并在没有食物或武器的情况下占领被征服的土地。 男孩们还被告知,如果被美国人俘虏或抵抗,他们会被折磨致死。

    所以他们拒绝投降并不是因为勇敢,而是害怕遭受酷刑。 日军背后也有国会议员射杀任何撤退的士兵。 叔叔们声称日本军队的伟大战斗精神是一个神话。 害怕投降和随后遭受酷刑的被洗脑的孩子。 如果他们撤退,还会被国会议员枪杀。

    武士座右铭是“没有人能控制我”。 可能是她如此狂热的共和党人的原因。 她讨厌 CNN 告诉她如何思考。

    • 回复: @Guillaume Durocher
  246. Malla 说:
    @Blankaerd

    我有点尊重纳粹试图填补启蒙运动造成的空白。

    这是非常正确的。 德国民族社会主义甚至日本民族主义实际上都是对现代主义的某种形式的反抗。 特别是反对没有灵魂的唯物主义现代主义的两个主要孩子,美式资本主义(及其堕落的艺术和文化)和苏联马克思主义共产主义(及其在社会现实主义之前的堕落艺术)。

  247. Anonymous[131]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    您是否愿意通过参考日本及其“邻国”——尤其是中国的实际时间表来充实这一点。 谁是其他国家的武士?

    武士是士兵。 战士在冲突和战争时期受到钦佩。 学者在和平时期受到尊敬。 就这么简单。

    中国的统一发生在战国末期,公元前 4 年。 (如果我错了,请纠正我)在韩国,半岛于 7 日统一。 日本统一直到 17 日才到来。 所以当然,在日本,武士享有最高荣誉。 那是一种武士文化。 在很多方面,仍然是。

    我不是这个话题的专家。 这只是常识。

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  248. Anonymous[131]• 免责声明 说:
    @anonymous

    神道教、佛教和儒教的相互作用对于吉田兼友(Yuitsu Shinto 的创始人)以及其他许多人的思想来说是相当重要的。 顺便说一句,神道教不是民族主义。

    到十四世纪,新儒学成为韩国的国家意识形态。 在日本,新儒学直到 14 世纪才被采用。 但即便如此,它的影响也可以说是有限的。

    我知道神道教不是民族主义。 但它被用于民族主义目的。

    • 回复: @anonymous
  249. fnn 说:
    @Epigon

    我认为在这些情况下“个人主义”的含义是缺乏在世界其他地方如此普遍的氏族文化。 弱势的大家庭,很少的裙带关系等。

  250. anonymous[145]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    但即便如此,它的影响也可以说是有限的。

    是的,幸运的是,日本人并没有过分接受儒家思想。

    但它被用于民族主义目的。

    真的。 在日本的帝国时代,神道教被“世俗化”并被剥夺,基本上只是对天皇的崇拜变得疯狂。 在此之前,天皇崇拜甚至还不是神道教的普遍做法。 许多实际的神道教传统和仪式被禁止实践。 正式地,神道教不再被视为一种宗教,而只是一种爱国义务。 反对太多的神父有被“打倒”的风险。 简而言之,这只是军事宣传人员将所有的禅宗和武士废话融入他们胡说八道的武士道意识形态的另一个有用工具。 它是军国主义者用来鼓动支持对华战争,然后动员国家反对美国和其他西方盟国的有效工具。

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  251. Seraphim 说:
    @Malla

    或许我们应该记住 13 年 1941 月 XNUMX 日的苏日中立条约,其中日本不会攻击苏联,如果“一个或几个第三国攻击苏联”,以及要求签署国“在所有政治上相互协助”的三方法案。 , 经济和军事手段,如果缔约国之一受到目前未卷入欧洲战争或日中冲突的国家的攻击”。 换句话说,只有当苏联在进攻时。
    这应该清楚地表明斯大林并不准备入侵德国。 佐尔格只确认日本人会遵守条约。 如果斯大林“无视”佐尔格对即将到来的巴巴罗萨猛攻的“警告”,那是因为他知道(从其他来源)会发生这种情况,并且已经确信如果德国进攻日本不会进攻。 他显然是在准备一场消耗战,这将使世界上最好的战士的非凡勇气失效。
    无论如何,日本对进攻苏联的兴趣不大,因为他们的收益太少,而它向南方的扩张绝对是至关重要的,它占领了荷属东印度群岛和马来亚的油田,而他们在中国的手头太多了。

    • 回复: @Malla
  252. Anonymous[131]• 免责声明 说:
    @anonymous

    是的,幸运的是,日本人并没有过分接受儒家思想

    不是真的,考虑替代方案。 日本在没有道德检查的情况下过度使用军国主义。 在东亚,儒学是必不可少的道德检查。

    如果你考虑 16 世纪和 20 世纪的日本恶作剧,它对大东亚地区的影响就是灾难。

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @anonymous
  253. @Cowboy

    日本没有向苏联宣战的原因很简单:它早在 1939 年就曾试图在 Khalkhin Ghol 与苏联交战,结果却把头交给了它。 日本人非常清楚,导致希特勒宣称的纳粹错觉

    “俄罗斯是纸牌屋。 你只需要踢门,整个腐烂的结构就会倒塌”

    就是这样——一个荒谬的错觉。 此外,日本决定参战不是为了帮助纳粹,而是为了确保自己获得东南亚石油、锡和橡胶的经济准入。 它不需要与苏联开战来拯救欧洲的希特勒败类。

    • 回复: @Malla
  254. Alden 说:
    @anonymous

    这就是我的武士朋友所说的话,正如他们的父亲和叔叔所说的那样,他们经历了战士洗脑和二战,没有食物也没有武器。

  255. Sparkon 说:
    @Sparkon

    I 必须收回这一点:

    日本有一个重要的间谍,但他是日本人,他的报告不是给斯大林,而是给罗斯福。 当日本舰队航行时,间谍通过中间人告诉罗斯福,珍珠港将在 7 年 1941 月 XNUMX 日遭到袭击。

    我在谷歌图书中找到了这个信息,但事实证明我所依据的段落来自 一部虚构作品, 总统的间谍 Joseph L. Mayeux 着,第 85-88 页,但我在 Google 图书中发现此信息并没有明确表明 Mayeux 的作品是一部小说。

  256. @Anonymous

    感谢您清晰地提出问题。 肯定有一些学者会用肯定、限定或否定来回答的可能性。 但愿如此。

  257. @Malla

    玛拉

    奇怪的是,我在迪拜工作的大多数婆罗门都是圣泽维尔毕业生。 不要问我为什么,它是一所天主教大学,它是孟买的常春藤盟校婆罗门学院。

    另一个奇怪的成功团体是圣托马斯基督徒。 在喀拉拉邦,我很了解他们,我问他们来自哪里,他们声称是五世纪叙利亚使徒的后裔。 不可能,他们在我看来像犹太人,但没有人真正确定这些人来自哪里。

    果阿的白人征服者和喀拉拉邦的犹太商人采取了与当地婆罗门妇女通婚的古老策略,以建立古老的简单横向方式的社会联系。
    总而言之,不是传教士将果阿人转变为天主教,也不是喀拉拉邦的犹太人。

    他们用老式的水平方式做到了。

    这很粗糙,但白人入侵者是美化的男性妓女。 寻找当地精英,让妇女怀孕。

    • 回复: @Seraphim
  258. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    如果你考虑 16 世纪和 20 世纪的日本恶作剧,它对大东亚地区的影响就是灾难。

    哦,是的,日本总是很糟糕。

    看看这个,日本统治下的韩国。

    你可以在这里获得更多信息

    https://koreawithjapan.blogspot.com/

    • 回复: @fnn
    , @Anonymous
  259. Malla 说:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    “俄罗斯是纸牌屋。 你只需要踢门,整个腐烂的结构就会倒塌”

    腐烂的结构是用美国的地租钱焊接在一起的。

  260. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    关于日本帝国的政治不正确真相

    • 回复: @Escher
  261. Malla 说:
    @Che Guava

    这是温和的还是旁敲侧击的待遇?

    我并不是说日本没有被盟国视为威胁。 与这里的许多人相反,日本被认为是一个主要的工业和军事强国。 这就是为什么美国人不想入侵日本岛屿的原因。 是的,轰炸日本城市是野蛮的。

    但我的观点是罗斯福想进入德国。 美国人一般对战争不感兴趣。 盟军精英希望发生类似卢西塔尼亚的新事件来激怒美国人民,但德国人巧妙地阻止了此类事件的发生。 这就是为什么罗斯福不得不利用日本作为进入德国的一种方式。 第三帝国所代表的一切都是撒旦全球主义齐奥精英的敌人。 如果第三帝国能够幸存下来,他们对即将到来的 NWO 的整个梦想都会燃烧殆尽。

    • 回复: @Che Guava
    , @Logan
  262. Malla 说:
    @Seraphim

    这应该表明斯大林不准备入侵德国。

    我不确定。 希特勒的巴巴罗萨演讲完全符合索沃洛夫的理论。 但该演讲已从 Youtube 中删除。 Youtube正在成为主流媒体的洗脑频道。 很快上 youtube 就和看 CNN 一样了。

    • 回复: @Seraphim
  263. Malla 说:
    @ia

    从印度教出来的神道教只是简单的 BS 那段视频是典型的印度教大猩猩,比如我们印度教徒非常擅长的捶胸。 神道是在日本独立开发的。 只是一些印度教的观念随着大乘佛教传入日本。

  264. Seraphim 说:
    @jeff stryker

    承认这是比割喉更令人愉快的方式。

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  265. jlee1 说: • 您的网站
    @S

    是的,如果不是锯子对投降的同志做了什么,更多的日本人会投降;

    http://thomasgoodrich.com/summer-1945-book-review/

    那些确实从直升机上得到了一点推动,如果你明白我的意思的话……(当时有直升机吗……)

    看看林德伯格上校对美国人对肮脏日本人所做的事情的看法。

    • 回复: @S
  266. Malla 说:
    @tamo

    日本帝国士兵非常坚信自我牺牲,极度勇敢,最严格的纪律。

    确实,用神风飞行员之歌为他们超人的勇气干杯

    我听过的最迷人的歌曲之一。

    • 同意: Guillaume Durocher
  267. @Seraphim

    塞拉菲姆

    割喉不结盟。 强奸也不行。 孩子们只是被遗弃而死。

    西班牙裔美国人在横向外交方面通常比喜欢在军营里互相发生性关系的英国人更好。

    但战略性的工作。 向当地婆罗门或酋长的女儿或姐妹求爱,让她怀孕,然后你就拥有了一个既是当地精英又是征服者的孩子的孩子。

    这就是为什么西班牙后裔仍然统治着墨西哥、菲律宾和葡萄牙果阿,而英语却早已被遗忘。

  268. Seraphim 说:
    @Malla

    但如果苏沃洛夫的理论与希特勒的演讲相符呢?

  269. S 说:
    @jlee1

    非常真实。

    林德伯格将美国机构置于真正的束缚之中。 即使在今天,他们在与他打交道时也有问题。

    一位(理所当然地)反对他们推动战争的心爱的英雄。

  270. Half-Jap 说:
    @Alden

    我有。 有趣的东西,虽然他只是一个旅伴,他对他发现的东西的解释是有争议的。

  271. Che Guava 说:
    @Malla

    你是对的,我的语气可能太责骂了。 感谢您的答复。

    在偏远地区的城市,人们可以分辨出哪些地方有时受到最严重的轰炸,在东部的平坦地区,高崎在某种程度上是最好的例子,它尤其是日立制造的基地(现在仍然是,有点)。

    现在的老城中心的新版本很奇怪,它有一个网格,是任何地方最多的交通灯和十字路口。

    乐队 nane 是 Seppuku Pistols,他们早期的电子朋克作品已经不存在了(我还有它,非常好,但必须请求许可才能重新发布),但我希望以后的版本,包括 NY展示,甚至可能,我早期关于他们早期节日风格的视频,其他视频,都在“网上”的某个地方。 总之,推荐听。

    • 回复: @Malla
  272. fnn 说:
    @Malla

    有美国轰炸后平壤的照片吗? 我读到没有一座建筑物站立。

    • 回复: @Malla
  273. anonymous[319]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    每种文化都会挑选和选择最能反映他们自己(当前)集体需求、性格、情绪和抱负的主流哲学和宗教方面。 直到后来,他们才试图通过声称他们的“优越”道德基于某种更大的、无所不包的哲学或宗教来证明这一点(这是胡说八道)。 同样,日本人以新儒家原则做到了这一点,但他们也保持足够的灵活性,以适应 19 世纪中叶世界不断变化的条件。

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  274. fnn 说:
    @Alden

    并非一切都与犹太人有关。 主要是关于客观现实。 看看你,看看世界
    这是由胜利的民主共产主义联盟创造的。

  275. peterAUS 说:
    @Half-Jap

    发人深省的东西。
    尤其:

    ……我们应该相信一群猎人/采集者在 12000 年前建造了巨大的石头结构。
    有很多我们无法再知道了,但是还有很多东西让我们想知道在我们从解剖学上存在的大约 300,000 年中,经历了几次灾难,我们忘记了多少.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  276. Anonymous[209]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    哦,是的,日本总是很糟糕。 看看这个,日本统治下的韩国。

    像这样的论点本质上是似是而非的,因为它总是赋予强大、富有和聪明的人统治不那么强大、富有和聪明的人的权利。

    所以我不知道为什么当显然大多数人重视主权和尊严而不是奴隶制和小饰品时,为什么经常使用这些类型的论点。

    作为一个表面上看重自由和自由的西方人,你应该比大多数人更清楚这一点。 但是像很多西方人一样,你是两面派和伪君子。

    • 回复: @Anounder
    , @Malla
  277. Anonymous[209]• 免责声明 说:
    @anonymous

    同样,日本人以新儒家原则做到了这一点,但他们也保持足够的灵活性,以适应 19 世纪中叶世界不断变化的条件。

    日本在 19 世纪和 20 世纪的发展绝对值得称道。 它的邻居没有一个因此而嫉妒它。

    引起道德谴责的是它如何使用其权力、发展和财富。 日本加入了西方流氓的阴谋,强奸了东方。

    没有任何“新儒家”原则可以为日本帝国主义与它接触了数千年的熟悉邻国辩护。 这不是基于儒家外交规范的“文明”国家所做的事情。 这就是野蛮人所做的。 而日本是野蛮的。

    • 回复: @anonymous
    , @Half-Jap
  278. britishbrainsize [又名“ eastkekestaniisawhiteguy”] 说:
    @AaronB

    当你拥有技术和武器优势战胜所有敌人时,你对白人的战斗能力考虑太多了,新加坡的英国懦夫没有经过多少战斗就投降了,实际上有一半的澳大利亚军队跑了。从马来西亚到新加坡,当他们听说日本人抵达马来西亚时,甚至征用船只驱逐妇女和儿童,因为她们害怕被俘,亚洲人永远比白人更优秀,从土耳其人到越南人的历史都是这样的

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  279. @britishbrainsize

    那为什么白人国家继续控制世界呢? 特朗普、梅和普京都是白人。 就此而言,为什么难民会逃离非白人国家前往白人国家? 为什么白人殖民世界?

    • 回复: @britishbrainsize
  280. Anounder 说:
    @onebornfree

    你只有 56% 的白人和下沉。 充满泥浆。 相比之下,像中国这样的国家叫中国的国家保持他们的血统。

    你的同类有没有赢得过任何著名的灭绝或征服战争? 找到了确保道路和艺术创作的方法吗?

  281. Anounder 说:
    @Anonymous

    >大多数人重视主权和尊严,而不是奴隶制和小饰品。

    找到了自由主义者。 出身的文明需要非人从属。

    • 回复: @Logan
  282. Anounder 说:
    @Half-Jap

    说到这一点,我们应该相信一群狩猎/采集者在 12000 年前竖立了巨大的石头结构。

    Your assumption that the world was just a collection of noble savages until they started randomly building atone objections is trash and rooted in your modernism. In actuality, every great work be it the pyramids or Turkey’s works rooted in the spiritual. Not in lost civilizations.

  283. Logan 说:
    @Malla

    Scott Murray : He unwilling to defend his honor is not a man. Henry David Thoreau said that.

    Robin ‘Stormy’ Weathers : Yabba-dabba-doo. Frederick Flintstone said that. So what?

  284. Anounder 说:
    @Epigon

    onebornfree is an atomized/alienated one. He sees himself as just dropped onto the world with no ties to his parents, his bloodline, his ethnos. Mingling with a Negro isn’t shameful, there is no difference between a bunch of spear chuckers jivin around and Mozart’s work. And even if there was European nobility had no relevance in the creation and spreading of such beauty.

  285. Logan 说:
    @Malla

    I am curious what your explanation is for Hitler unilaterally declaring war on America after Pearl Harbor, something not required by his treaty with Japan. Not that Hitler, by his own words, ever paid much attention to treaties.

    Had he not done so, it is not at all obvious that America would have gone to war with Germany. We might have wound up fighting in the Pacific and Asia but not in Africa and Europe.

  286. andre 说: • 您的网站

    I wrote about this connection on my blog in the context of American culture that the French intellectual’s despised despite Bataille’s interesting comment https://martinmugar.blogspot.com/2012/02/impossiblity-of-transcendence-in.html

  287. @Honor is Loyalty

    “From Pearl Harbour onwards it was nothing but relentless defeats and retreats for the Japanese. At no point did they ever have the upperhand. Iwo Jima was at best just a speed bump, and on the American juggernaut went.”

    At Iwo Jima the Americans had 100,000 of their best troops. The battle went on for 5 weeks and the Americans suffered about 25% casualties. At Okinawa the Americans had half a million troops, the battle lasted nearly 3 months with massive casualties on both sides. It’s not even clear that America would have been capable of mounting an invasion of the Japanese home Islands.

  288. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Quite right. The buffet metaphor in particular rings true.

    However, a corollary to this phenomena is the type of convert who really commits body and soul to the new faith, utterly betraying ancestral ties in a deliberate determination to ‘become’. This type will typically be more fanatical than born members of a given religion in their desire to prove themselves.

    While certain white converts to Islam straight away come to mind, a right wing example would be Savitri Devi and her conversion to Hinduism.

    Such people are very dangerous, especially as they may be ‘within the gates’ so to speak. I fear such driven converts to Islam may become increasingly widespread in Europe as it’s culture strains under the invasion.

    • 回复: @Malla
  289. anonymous[319]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    But like a lot of Westerners, you’re duplicitous and a hypocrite

    machinations of Western hooligans to rape the East

    I am just curious, did you once comment under the name “Bach”? Your comments and reasoning are reminding me a lot of his.

  290. Half-Jap 说:
    @Anonymous

    FYI we fought a war of liberation, burning down colonies. While China was a mistake aggravated by stupid leaders, the goal was to break the stranglehold on resource-rich western colonies. Of course, we kinda did put ourselves into the corner as well, but the co-prosperity sphere was a strategic objective. Chiang Kai-Shek was barbaric, pillaging the countryside and executing his soldiers as they sought to desert. No wonder Mao had an easy time by the end of the civil war.

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Anonymous
    , @Malla
  291. Che Guava 说:
    @Logan

    马拉,

    That is a good point that I was already making.

    … and more concisely.

    There were two main factions in Japan at the time, what was called the Control Faction’ and centred on the Army, which supported attacking the USSR in the east, and the other, more based on the Navy, which did not really have a fixed policy until the foreign minister, Kishii, stopped in Moscow on his way home from Berlin.

    Molotov was not there at the time, I forget the name of his rep., but the advice was ‘go south’, so Japan in no way assisted Barbarosssa.

    You are very astute to understand that Hitler’s declaration of war on the U.S.A. was very stupid, since Japan had done nothing to support Barbarossa.

    The story has a twist, of course, with the USSR Red Army setting up the CPC in Manchuria, turning a blind eye to the treaty of neutrality.

    That is not to say that there no geopolitical plans. It was to be to the north of India. Both Japan and Cermany had Indian independence lleaders called Boas on-side, but Japan was stalled in Burma, and Germamy and its allies only reached the Caucasus.

    However, the indepenence army set up by the Imperial Army came to tpower, and kicked out most of the Indians imposed ton there by the Brit. Empire, and the successor state seems to be quite keen on kicking Bengali Muslim invaders out.

    Seem like good ideas to me.

  292. “The Japanese even had struggles against the Chinese (e.g. Taierzhuang in 1938, as well as several other battles)”.
    There is no shame on that, the French actually were defeated by the Chinese on land in the Sino-French War. Although the Chinese armies performed better than in other nineteenth-century wars and the war ended with French defeat on land, the French achieved most of their aims in the Treaty of Tientsin. China was a quite powerful country, that’s why when ww2 finished, it was called one of the four policemen of the world.

  293. britishbrainsize [又名“ eastkekestaniisawhiteguy”] 说:
    @jeff stryker

    i was responding to the anon guy about whites making better fighters not about controlling the world man thers no question you do,but who cares as long as you guys don’t butt your noses into asian affairs and not target our women am fine with you controlling the brown world have at it and make babies with them not my problem.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  294. @britishbrainsize

    I live in Asia and I am here to tell you white men are going to stay in Asia. White men can make a living here and some Asian woman will marry us. So why should we leave?

    • 哈哈: tamo
  295. During the Pacific campaigns American infantry units suffered fatalities at about 5 times the rate of their counterparts fighting in Europe. They suffered non-fatal casualties at about 3 times the rate of those fighting in Europe. And it must be remembered Japanese infantry units were not as well equipped as their German counterparts.

    http://coachfleenor.weebly.com/uploads/6/6/7/3/6673552/no_bomb_no_end.pdf

    • 同意: tamo
  296. Anon[114]• 免责声明 说:

    Bot what my Samurai friend whose father grandfathers and uncles lived through it claim.
    But they were there.

  297. Anon[114]• 免责声明 说:

    Someone posted about a New right of return law for Jews who claim a remote Spanish heritage. I just pointed out that Spain instituted such a law during WW2.

  298. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    But like a lot of Westerners, you’re duplicitous and a hypocrite.

    I am Indian from India, brown guy. You assume too much in your posts and assume wrong.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  299. Malla 说:
    @Half-Jap

    No wonder Mao had an easy time by the end of the civil war.

    Mao also had the advantage that the Western oligarchs pulled the rug under Chiang Kai-Shek and supported Mao. Mao also benefited from the Chinese Nationalists and the Imperial Japanese forces fighting each other, while he built up his strength.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  300. Malla 说:
    @Logan

    Well Roosevelt were already clandestinely helping the British even though the American people at that point in time did not want any part in the War. But to understand, you have to check out the Fuhrer’s speech on his declaration of War on the United States of America. Unfortunately it has been scrubbed clean of youtube by the google commissars. Maybe Bitchute may have it. But I remember watching the speech and he sounded very reasonable.

  301. Malla 说:
    @fnn

    有美国轰炸后平壤的照片吗? 我读到没有一座建筑物站立。

    Wow thanks for the info. But we are not supposed to know anything negative about the allies. Allied bombings also killed scores of Frenchmen in Vichy France.

  302. Malla 说:
    @Che Guava

    You are correct, and my tone was probably too scolding.

    No Offence taken. Thanks for your reply.

    The band nane is Seppuku Pistols, their earlier electro-punk work is no longer up

    Sorry I did not get it, you mean the artists behind the Kamakaze Song?

    • 回复: @Che Guava
    , @Che Guava
  303. Anonymous[136]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    I am Indian from India, brown guy

    That makes it even worse. You must be one of those that thank the Brits for civilizing India and pine for their return.

    • 回复: @Malla
  304. Anonymous[136]• 免责声明 说:
    @jeff stryker

    So why should we leave?

    The battle cry of migrants everywhere.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  305. Anonymous[136]• 免责声明 说:
    @Half-Jap

    FYI we fought a war of liberation, burning down colonies. While China was a mistake aggravated by stupid leaders, the goal was to break the stranglehold on resource-rich western colonies.

    I sympathize with some of this. I think Japan is often unfairly vilified by the hypocritical West. Japan was arguably defending itself and the region from Western aggression. But in doing that, unfortunately, Japan used that opportunity as a pretext for conquest.

    I support the “coprosperity sphere”. But not at the expense of erasing native cultures and sovereignty.

    In the history of modern Japan, I’m not sure if it ever really had much of a feeling of warm fraternity in regards to its neighbors. It always struck me as having a certain level of disdain for its own kind. Even today, you can sense something of that. And I’m not sure why.

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Half-Jap
  306. Malla 说:
    @Escher

    More on JB 355 as mentioned in the 3rd video

    FDR plans sneak attack before Pearl Harbor

  307. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    People have been conquering each other before European expansion. European rule improved the lives of millions around the world. Post Independent countries such as Indonesia, Bangladesh, India, Kenya have themselves acted imperial.

  308. peterAUS 说:
    @Malla

    I am Indian. It is my culture.

    People have been conquering each other before European expansion. European rule improved the lives of millions around the world. Post Independent countries such as Indonesia, Bangladesh, India, Kenya have themselves acted imperial.

    Whoah………

    点赞,真的。

    Quite refreshing attitude on this site and life in general.

    Good luck, BTW.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Malla
  309. Anonymous[155]• 免责声明 说:
    @peterAUS

    Then you probably have no problem with migrants and the invasion of the West? It’s just conquest by other means, after all.

    • 回复: @Malla
  310. Anonymous[155]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    People have been conquering each other before European expansion. European rule improved the lives of millions around the world. Post Independent countries such as Indonesia, Bangladesh, India, Kenya have themselves acted imperial.

    Good British subject. You’ve got the royal talking points down to a tee. BARF.

    But carry on, quisling…

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
  311. @Anonymous

    Hong Kong, not to mention Southeast Asia, would be far less developed if white men did not go there with their money. Philippines, without the GDP of white expats, would be Africa. Chinese-Filipinos might be billionaires, but bring nothing to the country but slave labor and methamphetamine labs.

    Since you are Northeast Asian, we can concentrate on FILTHY’S (Failed in London, Try Hong Kong). To the degree that Hong Kong is more desirous to Chinese than mainland China, it is because of aggregate white money and labor.

    And we won’t even get into offshoring, will we?

    Migrant refugees bring nothing but poverty and petty crime (and sometimes terrorism) to Europe.

    What whites bring to Asia is infrastructure, functional systems of law, investment and on and on.

    Also, the average Westerner in Asia is at least thirty when he arrives. He has money, skills, education and mature. He is not interested in rape or extremism.
    你能看到区别么?

    • 哈哈: tamo
    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Ajeoshi
    , @Anonymous
  312. @Malla

    玛拉

    I would say that what improved former British colonies was the fact that English law is so simple that a child can understand it. Its functional and efficient.

    Also, unlike the Spanish or Portuguese, the English are not romantics. Which means they did not intermarry with local women. They came, administered, and left.

    Of course some local groups do better. Brahmin, for example, became better off under English rule. As did Parsee. Muslims less so.

    • 回复: @Malla
  313. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Then you probably have no problem with migrants and the invasion of the West? It’s just conquest by other means, after all.

    The migrants did not conquer Western countries, they have no right of conquest. They were allowed in by traitorous Western government bent on race replacement. Did the migrants defeat the American, British, French, German, Swedish , Italian armies? I think not.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  314. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Also, unlike the Spanish or Portuguese, the English are not romantics. Which means they did not intermarry with local women. They came, administered, and left.

    Very true. the British (and even the Dutch) kept a distance from the people around them. But about marriages, the British and other Europeans did marry Indian women before the Mutiny. Read the book ‘White Mughals’. Before the 1857 mutiny one third of European men in India including Brits had Indian wives. Indeed the book primarily deals with the marriage of the British East India Company Resident James Achilles Kirkpatrick at the court of the Nizam of Hyderabad with the Hyderabadi princess Khair un-Nissa.

    来自亚马逊
    “It is a remarkable story, involving secret assignations, court intrigue, harem politics, religious and family disputes. But such things were not unknown; from the early sixteenth century, when the Inquisition banned the Portuguese in Goa from wearing the dhoti, to the eve of the Indian mutiny, the ‘white Mughals’ who wore local dress and adopted Indian ways were a source of embarrassments to successive colonial administrations. William Dalrymple unearths such colourful figures as ‘Hindoo Stuart’, who travelled with his own team of Brahmins to maintain his temple of idols, and who spent many years trying to persuade the memsahibs of Calcutta to adopt the sari; and Sir David Ochterlony, Kirkpatrick’s counterpart in Delhi, who took all thirteen of his wives out for evening promenades, each on the back of their own elephant.”

    It was only after the Mutiny that the Brits started keeping an aloof attitude from Indians.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  315. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    But in doing that, unfortunately, Japan used that opportunity as a pretext for conquest.

    That is rubbish. Maybe that case can be made for Korea or Taiwan. But for the rest, the Japanese had no option.

    I suggest you check out the videos of post 272.

    Same with the Germans, WW2 started when Britain and France declared war on Germany not the other way around. If during the partition of the German and Austrian empire after WW1 the demarcations of borders on the ground would have been done more honestly and professionally, in other words, ethnic Germans were put within the borders of Germany or Austria, there would have been no need of German altercations with its neighbours.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  316. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    But carry on, quisling…

    Carry on speaking the harsh truths is what you mean. Thanks.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  317. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    If White people need to develop any part of the world by settling down, go to the Brown Black World. Like how Whites developed South Africa and Rhodesia. The East Asians are good on their own. They are the one non White group who can build first world societies on their own merit.

  318. Ajeoshi 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Overall agree…partial exception is the horde of ESL teachers in developed (or rapidly developing) Asian nations.

    Those are the closest thing to a parasitical White immigrant group in Asia.

    They’re generally younger than 30, single unmarried (and unmarriable) male hornballs, plus a few nasty heavily tattoed highly feminist skanks, with little to no marketable skills.

    Invariably they try to infect their host country with their demented worldview, in the meantime significantly jacking up the local crime rate.

    They create their own little ghettos while at the same time agitating against imaginary racism from the locals. They contribute next to nothing to the local economy with their job being something inbetween a babysitter for spoiled Korean/Japanese/Taiwanese kids and a birthday party clown.

    PS

    Obviously I’m being (half) facetious here

    聚苯硫醚

    How have you been Detroit man ?

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  319. Ajeoshi 说:
    @jeff stryker

    I wouldn’t move back from Asia to any European \$hithole if my son life depended on it (sorry kiddo) and specifically I’d rather jump aboard the first mission to colonize Mars before they get me to settle back in my native Shitaly.

    • 回复: @Malla
  320. @Logan

    The United States under President Roosevelt had steadily increased its support for Great Britain despite the strength of anti-war sentiment in the American public. Consider ( http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/daily/wwii/undeclared-war-in-the-atlantic/ ):

    Between September 1939 and December 1941, the United States moved from neutral to active belligerent in an undeclared naval war against Nazi Germany. During those early years the British could well have lost the Battle of the Atlantic. The undeclared war was the difference that kept Britain in the war and gave the United States time to prepare for total war. . . . For Roosevelt, it was more than a policy. It was a conviction to halt an evil and a threat to civilization. As commander in chief of the U.S. armed forces, Roosevelt ordered the U.S. Navy from neutrality to undeclared war. . . .

    Roosevelt believed he alone could carry out his undeclared war policy. Running for reelection while carrying out the “short of war” policy required secrecy and deviousness. To carry it off, he and Hull both felt they would have to drop their policy of being frank with the American people.

    Roosevelt gave the British destroyers in exchange for military bases, Lend Lease aid, provided repairs to British ships in U.S. ports, and replaced British merchant vessels lost to German attacks. In August 1941, the U.S. began providing convoy protection to British ships, which “violated all technical definitions of neutrality”. In September 1941, scuffles between German subs and American ships led Roosevelt to issue a simple “shoot-on-sight” order against German vessels in the Atlantic. There was an undeclared and possibly unconstitutional naval war between the Germans and the Americans.

    The United States had an unremittingly hostile policy towards Germany, (quite understandably, in many respects) opposing the Third Reich’s hegemony in Europe, providing economic aid to enemies and outright shooting German ships in the Atlantic. All this was a major factor in Hitler’s own declaration of formal war. It was probably still a mistake. The declaration of war allowed Roosevelt to escalate what had been a minor naval conflict into massive bombing campaigns and then landings in North Africa and Europe within a few years. Could Roosevelt have secured a declaration of war from Congress if Hitler had not declared war? Unclear. Irving says that Hitler declared war on the assumption that the U.S. would become indefinitely busy fighting Japan. A foolish assumption indeed. The months of June-December 1941 mark Hitler’s descent into hubristic escalation from which he would never recover (many of his subordinates in the Wehrmacht and the foreign office tried to reel in his excesses after that, too little, too late, etc).

    • 回复: @Logan
  321. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Good British subject.

    I am not. I am a citizen of the 共和国 of India. My ancestors were subjects of the King Emperor/ Queen Empress or the British Monarchs who were our Emperors also. Since 1950 (when India became a Republic) we are not subjects of the British royal family anymore.
    But what I find interesting is that millions of non Whites migrated and even now migrate legally and illegally to Great Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand to become subjects of the British Royal Family again. Browns and blacks risk life and limb to cross the Mediterranean or the sea in between Indonesia and Australia to make this perilous journey to become subjects of the Windsors again. Are they missing something? Some spiritual yearning to be subjects of the Windsors again? Some Spiritual hole to be filled since the Windsor rule ended, something deep in their subconscious? I wonder. LOL. What would be Sigmund Fraud’s opinion on this? LOL

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
    , @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  322. Half-Jap 说:
    @Malla

    Indeed, as you say.
    感谢。

    • 回复: @Malla
  323. Half-Jap 说:
    @Anonymous

    Aside from annexing Korea and gaining Taiwan, we were out to destroy colonialism. It’s a complicated story with Korea, but suffice to say they have thanked us by spiting us. A great case study in the power of compulsory education.

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  324. Half-Jap 说:
    @peterAUS

    There are even more fascinating and disturbing stuff that I need some more education to validate or refute, such as this series, where otherwise the host’s work on predicting earthquakes in relation to the sun’s activity is superb:

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  325. Half-Jap 说:
    @Malla

    lol..your parting questions are fascinating, which I haven’t thought of before. Thank you.

  326. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Half-Jap

    Disclosure: I’ve been married to a S. Korea woman for 10 years and I’ve been living in S. Korea since 2015 (before I was for 3 years in HK)….said so sorry but neither side is exactly innocent when it comes to the sorry state of the diplomacy between the 2 countries.

    For a long time Koreans were simply jelous of Japan success and felt really insecure and angry being relegated to the role of poor cousin, not unlike Northern Africans vs the French. Quite frankly now it sems like the other way around with has-been Japan growingly hysterical and at times bordering on pathetic in their approach to Korea, whose success Japanese people cannot really seem to accept.

    For instance basically any kind of internet content making any positive remark about the ROK is getting increasingly buried under a deluge of poorly phrased comments from uyoku dantai types.

    Both sides look and act like 2 spoiled, not particularly bright daycare brats squarreling over petty obscure issues nobody with half a life cares about.

    Seriously the world is supposed to take seriously whatever beef you 2 have over Dokdo/Takeshima/whatever ? Or what country was more advanced during the Imjin wars ? or if Silla was or not a tributary of some Yamatoesque tribe in the late Pleistocene ?

    Both Korea and Japan are (and have never been) nothing more than puny footnotes in Chinese history, grow the eff up for Heavens sake.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
    , @Half-Jap
    , @Anonymous
  327. Half-Jap 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    1) That stupid island was seized by ROK. Most easily demonstrated.
    2) You take their media too seriously. I seldom see much hysteria here. Even Sankei is pretty chill except editorial.
    3) Koreans are emotional people, not us. They care not for treaties, history, or evidence. We’ll go to court any day over crap they’ve been screaming about.
    4) We invested much treasure and ability to build that damn country. A silly korean whose parents were pro-annexation even assasinated the anti-annexation political heavyweight Ito to get them to friggin annex them. Now that assassin’s a hero. Always warms my cynical heart.
    5) Then we even had to pay them to settle whatever imaginary damage they suffered that those SJWs of the day had their feefees hurt by being ‘forcibly’ brought to the 20th century. My position is that we should have left them alone under the rule of their amazingly progressive emperor with just one school to speak of and dirt roads. Fck Yeah! :roll eyes: 😛
    6) And then, I refer to #3, as even such settlement, in which funds were also intended for the people as compensation for having their dignity hurt, were all taken to invest in building up the econ, which ofc is a legitimate decision. But wtf beggar us for more, again?

    Such a successful troll.

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  328. Half-Jap 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    And by the way, neither China nor Japan care for either Koreas, except as buffers.
    China and Japan have a good degree of mutual respect for their respective accomplishments and capacities, despite history. Thei kicked our ass, rebuilt, is strong now. Respect.

    Neither care for the Koreas, who everybody relevant knows build off appropriated Japanese assets. Even the laws and economic model was a copy until recently.

    Long term, China and Japan are natural allies, as the falsely accused and executed sinophile PM Hirota Kouki said. We’d even care less in that situation about the Koreas.

    Kouki’s grand foreign affairs policy was an alliance between China, Russia, and Japan. Nobody cares about the Koreas. They’ll always be followers of the predominant power of that age, just as they have always been.

    Unless, of course, they take agency over their fate, and take responsibility for their own forefathers deciding to join Japan and work with us for their own development. That generation had agency. The current Korea owes them much gratitude.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Ajeoshi
  329. Malla 说:
    @Half-Jap

    Very true, check this out

    Red Ice Radio – Joshua Blakeney – Hour 1 – Japan Bites Back: Allied Demonization of the Empire of the Sun

    并且

    二战时期的詹姆斯·佩洛夫

  330. @Ajeoshi

    Maybe English John will show up from Return of Kings to back us up. Anyhow, I believe there is a difference between hardworking quiet businessmen like you and I and some Africans and Gypsies who roam the streets of Milan or wherever you were destroying Western civilization.

    I’d compare the ESL teachers in Asia to Sicilian migrant workers in NYC in the fifties or sixties. They are there to do a job, some people think they are trashy but they mostly keep to themselves, they tend to make little money and so they live shabby lives but overall they are really just keeping themselves to themselves.

  331. Malla 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    before they get me to settle back in my native Shitaly.

    What is wrong with Italy today?

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  332. Malla 说:
    @Kali Yuga Management Specialist

    Savitri Devi and her conversion to Hinduism.

    She converted to Hinduism as she did not want anything to do with the Abrahamic faiths. With her experience with Jews in real life, she could not figure out how they were a ‘chosen people’.

  333. @Malla

    I’ve known many Anglo-Indians. They’re nothing special in India. When I first went to India in the late nineties I met a few old English soldiers in their seventies in Coloba in Mumbai. And I met their kids, who were mostly running the hotels they owned.

    Bengali women seem to like Goras more than other Desi females (I know this for an absolute fact) and there are more Anglo-Indians in Calcutta than anywhere else.

    Anglo-Indians don’t carry much prestige in India.

    • 回复: @Malla
  334. Logan 说:
    @Guillaume Durocher

    都很好。

    There have been several movies about the British and American intelligence cooperation prior to Pearl Harbor as well as FDR’s remarkable deceit of the American people.

    It’s possible I don’t remember it accurately, but my recollection is that one of these movies came out during the period when the Iran-Contra flap was in full swing and people were so upset about the Reagan administration being out of control that some were talking impeachment.

    What was funny was that the discussions at this same time were about how great it was that FDR conducted a completely undeclared and undercover war against Germany.

    By any standard, what FDR did was the greatest breach of constitutionality in American history.

    You can certainly argue, and I tend to agree, that he was right morally to do so, and it turned 0ut well for us that he did. But that doesn’t change the utter violation of the Constitution.

  335. @Malla

    One can understand her choice there, and she certainly produced some interesting writings afterwards.

    That being said I must draw the line at vegetarianism.

  336. @Malla

    玛拉

    Look at Sonia. I did not realize at first she was Italian (Italians are swarthy enough to pass for Kashmiri Brahmin). She converted and was quite influential in Indian politics during her time.

  337. peterAUS 说:
    @Half-Jap

    我听到你了

    My interest in the topic and the related stuff is simple:
    If there have been advanced civilizations before this one we live in, well, there is a chance we’ll somehow survive what’s likely to happen, by ourselves, in a not so distant future.

    I do buy such civilizations existed before. I also believe at least one of them was destroyed by own means.

    And, of course, on a practical side: those guys must’ve known things we have no clue about and could REALLY help us now and in years to come. Improve the quality of life at least; at best prevent what’s likely going to happen.
    这样的事情。

    In any case, digging out those things, literally, is fascinating stuff. Better than beer, barbecues and ball games. Or the latest fad.Well..hehe…for some of us, anyway.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  338. Anonymous[311]• 免责声明 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Hong Kong, not to mention Southeast Asia, would be far less developed if white men did not go there with their money.

    The asinine, self-serving logic. It baffles that it’s still used as a defense against aggression, colonialism and slavery.

    It reminds me of damnable Zionists who defend occupation and apartheid based on some cockamamie excuse or another long debunked.

    Maybe you’d be better off today had Epstein assaulted your mother for a few shekels?

    Or maybe you welcome the rape of your wife and daughter, the theft of home and many other things that degrade your dignity in exchange for investment and promise of a life going forward of enslaved luxury?

    Migrant refugees bring nothing but poverty and petty crime (and sometimes terrorism) to Europe.

    And Western colonizers/invaders initially brought death, disease and destruction. Then the invaders built up their colonies (many years later) for their benefit.

    Maybe in 50 years, those whom you call “refugees” will create more wealth? Who’s to say what the future holds?

    Now, if these migrants were rich Mainland Chinese, would that make it better? Do you want to be replaced by wealthy Chinese because they presumably bring capital and investments to your communities?

    If the fabled people of “Wakanda” could invade/colonize your white country, would that be alright? They promise to bring great technology and development. Do you approve? But all your children will be mulattos. Western culture will die. Wakanda forever!

    What whites bring to Asia is infrastructure, functional systems of law, investment and on and on.

    Whites brought war. Death. Humiliation. Oppression. Disgrace. Impediment to organic development. Injury to sovereignty. And the violation of native peoples’ right to self determination.

    Do you even hear what you say? Do whites believe in sovereignty? Or is that a right reserved only for themselves? Who are you to “bring” anything to anyone without invitation?

    It seems that whites still haven’t learned a thing. You yowl about “white rights” and “replacement”, but when it’s the other way around, you trot out these execrable colonial tropes.

    你能看到区别么?

    What I see is great duplicity. The lack of self awareness boggles the brain. Is universal humanity impossible with you, I wonder?

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @jeff stryker
  339. Anonymous[311]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    they have no right of conquest.

    According to your set of ethics, says who?

    Did the migrants defeat the American, British, French, German, Swedish , Italian armies? I think not.

    Is it your intent to be goofy? There are no rules to conquest.

    How do you think Tel Aviv wags the dog?

    • 回复: @Malla
  340. Anonymous[311]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    That is rubbish. Maybe that case can be made for Korea or Taiwan. But for the rest, the Japanese had no option.

    Then on China, Korea and Taiwan, you agree. As I said, the West gave Japan motive, but Japan used that opportunity to do harm to its neighbors.

    I suggest you check out the videos of post 272.

    And what? What am I supposed to take away from it? That Japan ONLY DID GOOD?

    Do you inhabit a cartoon world? Japan brought both development to its colonies and MISERY. On net, Japan did more harm than good.

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  341. Anonymous[311]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    Carry on speaking the harsh truths is what you mean. Thanks.

    Servitude is your personal truth. To become chattel is your existential right.

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
  342. Anonymous[311]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    I am a citizen of the Republic of India.

    What counts is loyalty to place and people. And you don’t have that.

    Are they missing something? Some spiritual yearning to be subjects of the Windsors again? Some Spiritual hole to be filled since the Windsor rule ended, something deep in their subconscious? I wonder. LOL

    Is that what you see in the sturm und drang? You’re amazingly clueless.

    • 回复: @Malla
  343. Anonymous[311]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    Both Korea and Japan are (and have never been) nothing more than puny footnotes in Chinese history, grow the eff up for Heavens sake.

    After 10 years, this is your grand summation? Typical. Smug. Like some pompous Western interloper slumming overseas.

    Sadly, your dismissive feelings towards Korea will rub off on your hapless children who will grow up feeling that their mother’s homeland was never more than a “puny footnote” in the history books of countries that REALLY MATTERED, and somehow, what others think about you is supposed to REALLY MATTER.

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  344. Anonymous[311]• 免责声明 说:
    @Half-Jap

    3) Koreans are emotional people, not us. They care not for treaties, history, or evidence. We’ll go to court any day over crap they’ve been screaming about.
    4) We invested much treasure and ability to build that damn country.

    I wonder if it’s your Japanese or white side speaking? Conceit drips.

    Long term, China and Japan are natural allies, as the falsely accused and executed sinophile PM Hirota Kouki said. We’d even care less in that situation about the Koreas.
    Kouki’s grand foreign affairs policy was an alliance between China, Russia, and Japan. Nobody cares about the Koreas. They’ll always be followers of the predominant power of that age, just as they have always been.

    From whence does so much (unwarranted) arrogance come? And the implicit disdain for Korea is so (miserably) loud and clear. Very odious.

    I disagree with you 1000%. But it’s because of “Japanese” like you (not that you really are) that rapprochement is difficult in E. Asia.

    You have little self-awareness. Your words are like the self-rationalizing barks of a sociopath. It’s everyone’s fault but yours. YOU did NOTHING wrong. Your intent was only for the good.

    take responsibility for their own forefathers deciding to join Japan

    So you’re also sh## deep in right-wing Japanese propaganda.

    No remorse. No regret. Just vestiges of unremitting haughtiness.

    • 回复: @Malla
  345. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Servitude is your personal truth. To become chattel is your existential right.

    Servitude?
    All anti colonialism movements were funded by big Zionist bankers, who now want to make the world into a big slave estate. You are a slave, slave of brainwashing.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  346. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Whites brought war. Death. Humiliation. Oppression.

    What rubbish, Whites rescued people from servitude from their own parasitic elites.

    猜猜怎么检查Jyoti Rao Phule
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyotirao_Phule

    Jyotirao Govindrao Phule [a](11年1827月28日至1890年2月3日)是印度社会活动家,马哈拉施特拉邦的思想家,反种姓社会改革家和作家。[XNUMX] [XNUMX]

    他的工作扩展到许多领域,包括消除不可触及的种姓制度,妇女的解放以及印度教家庭生活的改革。 1873年XNUMX月,普勒(Phule)与他的追随者一起成立了萨蒂亚措达克·萨玛杰(Satyashodhak Samaj)(真相探索者协会),以实现低种姓人民的平​​等权利。 普乐被认为是马哈拉施特拉邦社会改革运动的重要人物。他和他的妻子萨维特里拜·普乐是印度妇女教育的先驱。

    http://egyankosh.ac.in/bitstream/123456789/20647/1/Unit-12.pdf

    [更多]

    British rule had brought to an end the tyranny and chaos of the regime of the last Peshwa in Maharashtra. The colonial rulers had not only established law and order but also the principle of equality before law. The earlier regime of Brahmin Peshwas had imposed strict limitations on education, occupation arid living standards of the lower castes and women. The new rulers opened opportunities in education and mobility in occupation for the members of all castes. Missionary schools and government colleges were ready to admit any student irrespective of caste origins. New ideas of equality and liberty could reach the moderately educated sections of the lower caste. Phule was probably the best product of this process. High caste reformers and leaders also had welcomed colonial rule. 关心低种姓制度的奴隶的富勒也赞成英国统治也就不足为奇了。他希望,相信人与人平等的新政府将从婆罗门统治下解放低种姓。
    British rule opened up new employment opportunities in the administration. The political power at local level was also being given to the Indians. Phule who had worked as a member of the Poona Municipality could visualise how lower castes wound be able to acquire power at local level during the period of British rule and also enter the colonial bureaucracy. He believed in Colonialism, Cast Order and the Tribal Societies the benevolent attitude of the British rulers towards the lower castes and therefore asked for a number of things from them. He was not sure how long the British rule would continue. Therefore, he wanted lower castes to exploit the
    opportunity and get rid of the tyranny of Brahmins. Brahmin rulers used to collect huge wealth out of taxes levied on poor lower castes population, but never used to spend even a paisa (cent/penny) for their welfare. On the contrary, the new regime was showing the signs of doing good things for the deprived people.
    Phule assured the colonial rulers that if the Shudras were made happy and contented, they need not worry about the loyalty of the subjects. He wanted the British government to abolish Brahmin Kulkarni’s position, and a post of village headman (Patil) filled on the basis of merit. In fact, Phule would have liked the British government to put an end to the balutedary system which was connected with caste specific occupations in the villages. He asked the government to make laws prohibiting customs and practices which gave subordinate status to women and untouchables. Phule wanted Brahmin bureaucracy to be replaced by non-Brahmin bureaucracy. But if the non-Brahmins were not available, the government should appoint, he thought, the British men to these posts. He believed that the British officers would take impartial view and were likely to side with lower castes.
    他知道教育还没有渗透到低种姓。 群众还没有政治觉悟。 The high caste elites were claiming that they were the true representatives of the people and therefore demanding political rights. This process, Phule thought, would reestablish the political supremacy of the high castes. Phule advised his followers from the lower castes not to participate the-movement for political rights. He argued that the Indian National Congress or other political associations were not national in the true sense of the term because they represented only high castes. Phule warned his followers against the selfish and cunning motives of the Brahmins in forming these associations and advised them to keep themselves away from such associations. 在他的 Satya Shodhak Samaj 中,他制定了不讨论政治的规则。 事实上,我们发现他不止一次表达了对新政府的完全和完全的忠诚。 他坚信,全能的上帝已经废除了暴虐的统治者,并为他们建立了公正,开明和和平的英国统治,以维护人民的福祉。

  347. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    According to your set of ethics, says who?

    No it is according to common sense, which you seem to lack.

    s it your intent to be goofy? There are no rules to conquest.

    You really lack common sense and logic. The immigrants are there because the governments of the West ALLOWED them to be THERE.

  348. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    What counts is loyalty to place and people. And you don’t have that.

    I rather be loyal to the Truth. Indian Nationalism essentially entails a vicious hatred towards China for the 1962 invasion of India. Indian Nationalism entails a vicious genocidal hatred towards Pakistan. Indian Nationalism entails believing in the superiority of the Indian civilization and the Indian race over all other. No thank you, I would take the truth any day.

  349. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    As I said, the West gave Japan motive, but Japan used that opportunity to do harm to its neighbors.

    The West does not need to give motive to anybody, you stupid punk. Most Koreans were slaves to their elite class and lived like slaves, it was Japanese rule which gave them freedom. The Han in Taiwan are colonialists and should not have been there, thanks to them the native Taiwanese have become a minority in their own land. Why do you not talk about that?

    Are you telling me before the West expanded people all lived in peace and nobody conquered nobody. Non Western rulers were often far more cruel and vicious to the conquered.

    Check out these videos by Henry Louis Gate Junior

    非洲王国是奴隶制的主要组成部分。 他们没有停止奴隶制,欧洲人做到了。
    过去的非洲士兵自豪地说他们是一个卖奴隶的军人。
    06:52 非洲国王在奴隶贸易中发挥了重要作用,许多非洲王国依赖奴隶制。 在欧洲人登陆非洲之前,奴隶制就已经存在了,奴隶为非洲国王工作。
    在 22:38 到 23:04 阿散蒂在奴隶制上赚了很多钱
    30:04 达荷美王国好战,其他非洲人不得不在湖中建造一个威尼斯般的村庄才能逃脱。
    31 点 30 分,达霍荷美和邻近的王国用奴隶换取弹药。 达荷美自己1万为奴。
    达荷美人甚至牺牲了他们的敌人,是的人类牺牲。
    33点20分,达荷美战乱,年年战乱。 敌人被斩首。 征服和权力以及对权力的贪婪被认为是国王在达荷美文化中拥有的一件好事。
    34:50 敌王人祭
    37:38 达荷美王国有多少奴隶制
    45:15 贝宁的一个黑人说,被卖为奴隶的人是幸运的,否则他们会被牺牲,所以奴隶制拯救了被卖为奴隶的黑人的生命。

    It were European colonial Empires which banned slavery in Africa.

  350. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Looting of wealth by British, that is an unjust opinion. The Mughals were much worse rulers overall and very good extractors of tax. Akbar made moderate tax demands not because he wanted to improve the lot of the peasants but because it is more effective in improving revenue. The rate of tax of the Mughals was 20% which was much higher than that of the British. The Hindu Marathas had a tax rate of 25% (chouth or 1/4th). There was no income tax in British India

    Akbar massacred a huge number ( maybe 100,000 men) under Vikramaditya Hemu in the second battle of Panipat – and his later persona was a carefully crafted political stance.

    And mind you, in his massacres, both Hindus and muslims perished.

    Every muslim ruler carried out massacres and rapes – assuming 100,000 people per massacre and 10 massacres of such magnitude, that is a million men massacred under muslim rule in directly enumerated wars. Adding the forced conversions, looting and destruction of temples – India has faced untold savagery and looting.

    To say Afghan and Uzbek rulers were better rulers than British is ludicrous. The British were far far better rulers and in fact delivered us from the hell of Muslim rule – and mind you, in every massacre after 1300 AD or so, both Hindus and Muslims soldiers perished.

  351. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Do you inhabit a cartoon world? Japan brought both development to its colonies and MISERY.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-china-idUSKCN0SJ03Y20151025

    Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou said on Sunday it was important to remember the good things Japan did for the island while not forgetting the bad, as he marked 70 years since Japan gave up control of Taiwan at the end of World War Two.

    …剪下…..

    Unlike in China or Korea, many Taiwanese have a broadly more positive view of Japan than people in China or Korea, saying that Japan’s rule brought progress to an undeveloped, largely agricultural island.

    Speaking in Taipei to mark what Taiwan calls Retrocession Day, Ma said it was true Japan’s invasion of China killed millions and issues like the “comfort women”, as those forced to work in Japan’s wartime military brothels are euphemistically known in Japan, still caused deep pain today.

    “But Japanese colonial rule of Taiwan also bought construction, like the Chianan Irrigation system and Wusanto Reservoir,” Ma said, referring to two projects Japan oversaw.

    “This benefited farmers in Taiwan, and we should naturally affirm it,” added Ma, a member of the same Nationalist Party that fled to Taiwan in 1949.

    Also check this out. Japanese rule over Korea was moderate.
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2015/06/29/commentary/japan-commentary/japans-colonial-rule-of-korea-was-moderate/

  352. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Then on China, Korea and Taiwan, you agree.

    Not on China. The Chinese themselves invited Japanese invasion with their own action. Again, check out those videos I posted. Korea was a slave state to China where most Koreans were slaves to their elite Confucian parasitic Yanban class.

  353. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Whites brought war. Death. Humiliation. Oppression.

    And what about the brutal Chinese rule over Tibet and Xinjiang? About Indian brutal rule over Kashmir, North East India? About brutal Bangladeshi rule over the Chittging Hill Tracts? Over brutal Indonesian rule over Irian Jaya?
    Who waste your time here? Become an activist for he independence of these peoples?

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  354. @Anonymous

    311

    There is a difference between retirees in Southeast Asia and businessmen or English teachers in China or Korean married to local women and the Palestinian horrors or the Belgian Congo.

    To begin with, white expats in Asia are under the laws and governance of Asian countries. If they break the law or doing anything illegal, they are jailed or deported. You have no special privileges as a white man living in China-actually, you are something of a second class citizen.

    The number of whites in Asia-all on visas with no permanent right to reside and certainly no access to government programs (Which don’t exist in Southeast Asia anyhow)-is minimal and has no effect on Asian countries besides expanding the GDP and public treasury. Countries in Southeast Asia would sink into dire straits.

    This is not colonialism. A white man living in Hong Kong or Seoul has no colonial privileges. That is nonsense.

    We can argue about colonialism and its crimes and I would not debate it, but these things have nothing to do with white men living in Asia today. Zero. I live in Asia and we get no special privileges, I assure. The few whites in Southeast Asia who DO GET SPECIAL PRIVILEGES are married to Chinese-Filipinos or Chinese-Indonesians.

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
    , @Anonymous
  355. @Malla

    玛拉

    Kashmir is debatable, as Pakistanis have constantly initiated that conflict. Ironically, the first leaders of the Indian Republic were all Kashmir Pandits like Nehru (Who are so white that I had to be told that Sonia was Italian; I simply assumed she was a Pandit as well) and these people have all been driven out of India.

    The partition can be blamed on Britain, to some degree. The worst crime the Brits committed in India was on the way out, like some unwanted party guest who refuses to leave. Whereas Portuguese-all male and always doing the Latin lover number-kind of blended into the population of Goa until by the time that part of India became independent in 1967 there were no longer whites there anyhow. Unlike England, nobody in Goa was in a mad scramble to immigrate to Portugal (Or is to this day although Goans can do so easily).

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
  356. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    The partition can be blamed on Britain, to some degree. The worst crime the Brits committed in India was on the way out, like some unwanted party guest who refuses to leave.

    Jeff I have already proven to you conclusively in another page that the Brits had nothing to do with the partition of India.

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/the-dalai-lama-white-europe-and-the-third-worlds-drift-from-pride-to-parasitism/#comment-2531785

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/the-dalai-lama-white-europe-and-the-third-worlds-drift-from-pride-to-parasitism/#comment-2531810

    I would say it were the British who were holding the subcontinent together. After they went all kind of problems were let loose.

  357. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Kashmir is debatable, as Pakistanis have constantly initiated that conflict.

    30% of British India were princely States where the British did not have direct rule, the Kings (Hindus, muslims, Buddhists etc) were semi independent and swore allegiance to the King Emperor of India (the British monarch was also Emperor of India). many of these states had their own currency, railways etc….
    During the independence of India, the British government gave the Princely states the option of joining India, joining Pakistan or remaining Independent. Very fair. But both India and Pakistan started arm twisting the various princely states to join their team. There was a huge princely state called Osmania in South India, they even had their own railways. Osmania/Hyderabad was ruled by the Nizams. The population was majority Hindu but the rulers were Muslim. According to the rights given by the British government, the Nizam was free to choose as they wish. The Nizam chose Pakistan but against the rules agreed by all parties, India invaded Hyderabad state and absorbed it in India. The same thing happened with Junnagad in Gujrat. A Muslim ruler of a majority Hindu state chose Pakistan and the Indian army moved in (against their lawfull right) and absorbed Junnagad.
    Well Kashmir was the exact opposite case, a Hindu King of a Muslim majority state decided to join India. And hence the Pakistanis said well Indian illegally conquered Hyderabad and Junnagad, we have the right to Kashmir. That is when they sent in irregulars into Kashmir. Why irregulars and not the Pakistani Army. The British elite were on the side of India. The Royal Indian Army or the British Indian Army was to be divided in between Indian Army and Pakistan Army. The Brits smartly called back the Hindu forces back from the corners of the Empire before the Muslim divisions, thus during this period, India had command of an Army and Pakistanis not so much as the Muslim divisions of the British Indian Army was still stationed at the various corners of the British Empire (Middle East, Africa). Since the Hindu and Sikh regiments had already come back, India had a much more effective army than Pakistan at this crucial moment.
    Besides India has refused to hold a plebiscite as mandated by the UN in Kashmir as they know that most Kashmiris would either chose independence or unity with Pakistan.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  358. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Anonymous

    Don’t get me wrong i like Korea, it’s a fun, hyper-kinetic place with in my view much higher standards of living than most Asia (Japan included).

    But what you expect me to say ? You think local contributions to East Asia civilization match China ? Sorry at my ripe age i do not entertain delusions.

    I mean if we move to Europe and we focus on, say, the Be-Ne-Lux area all that comes to my mind is that they have run their economies commpetently since the 17th century, they painted some pretty things and produced some interesting thinkers but pillars of Western civilization they are not.

    PS

    Me and wife have no kids, i have a son from my first marriage. Neither of us was interested in raising a half-breed.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  359. Ajeoshi 说:
    @jeff stryker

    This is not colonialism. A white man living in Hong Kong or Seoul has no colonial privileges. That is nonsense.

    Amen to that, we are more or less tolerated and appreciated guests here with little or no say in the internal affairs (rightly so !) of Asian countries.

    By the way I didn’t want to put down ESL teachers per se, I’m just trying to discourage young people from following that path, more often than not a 10-lane highway to financial and spiritual ruin.

  360. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Malla

    If a country where:

    – infrastructure , never stellar to begin with, is rotting to the point of having bridges collapsing out of the blue killing dozens of people

    – most of the housing stock is made of ugly, spartan small apartment blocks with zero frills and poor maintenance

    – you’re getting laughably underpaid but taxed to death to the point that median salaries after taxes barely hover above Czech Republic

    – the under 40 generation is poorer than their Thai counterparts

    – in large sections of the nation, including the capital city, garbage is barely collected

    – people have a questionable sense of hygiene: experiencing an Italian summer (thanks also to the scant presence of air conditioning) trust me can be quite the sensorial assault

    – most people , even right-wingers, are basically social justice warriors of the chicano type

    – most of the women look like Sephardim Jewesses but with the pleasant personality of a Canadian lesbian social worker

    – people are always either pissed off or sad or whining about something

    ….is your thing, please be my guest

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Anon
  361. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Half-Jap

    Thanks for succesfully proving my point with such an emotional response, quelle surprise from a specimen of such a level-headed, rational 民族

    Let me adress all your points:

    1: no idea who’s the legitimate owner of the guano islet and I DO NOT CARE, i find the whole issue utterly ridiculous. I’m Italian, Croats at the end of world war 2 seized Dalmatia whose coast has always been historically Venetian-speaking hence Italiana. Guess what ? Most eyetees do not give a flying crapola, they are too busy trying to eke out a meager living.

    Also we do understand one fundamental concept of human interactions since the Paleolithic: lost wars have consequences, you lost a war, deal with it. Ditto for the ears-screeching constant Korean griping about the colonial era: you lost a war, get over it.

    2: No I do not take Korean media seriously, i tend to not trust much of anything reported by major conglomerates, let alone when the words Asian and media are in the same sentence. Said so, I’m sorry i check Jap outlets from time to time: they’re as hysterical and ridiculous as the Hankyoreh, the comments section actually being generally vastly deeper into spergie territory.

    For being such an important nation with no time for puny issues you guys, judging from your presence in every ROK-related content (even among the commentariat of BTS videos FFS !!!) seem pretty obsessed, I mean there have been rallies protesting the deluge of k-drama in your tv: Jesus Almighty Lord nationalism is supposed to be a serious thing not another piece of clown world.

    3: Koreans are emotional as they’re basically semi-Manchu half-Mongol raging alcoholic troglodytes, you guys are not much better, barbaric drinking habits included. Due to the stricter and better mannered nature of Japanese society your irrationality tend to come more under the guise of an annoying spiteful passive aggressive attitude than the overt hooliganism common in the peninsula. Still on either side you find common traits: angst, scores of people with gigantic chips on their shoulders, historical self-aggrandizement and complete lack of rational thinking plus lots of impoverished elders living in squalor…basically same crap, slightly diffrent flavours.

    4-5-6 are more or less the same point: don’t know what to tell you, next time elect politicians who manage your money more wisely or additionally try to sue Samsung for some royalties.

    My position is that we should have left them alone under the rule of their amazingly progressive emperor with just one school to speak of and dirt roads.

    This though deserves an additional comment : too bad a certain Matthew Perry didn’t live long enough to share similar feelings. Be grateful your shogunate was wise enough to bow their collective head and go with the flow, otherwise you would still be known as a semi-Austronesian nation of 倭寇 more or less stuck in the iron age and run by a glorified mafia cartel (the samurai class).

  362. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Half-Jap

    I do not mean to sound excessively aggressive but this is utterly laughable. If you think Japan belongs as an equal partner to China in some Euroasian empire fantasy you’re stepping into delusional territory.

    I do not claim to be an expert on anything Chinese but one thing i did get about them after working in the Greater China sphere for many years: they’re not interested in giving anybody, let alone Japan, respect, friendship (I doubt the concept exist in their language) and an equal stake in any of their ventures.

    The chingchongs have very little use for either friends or allies, they just want servants, pardon tributaries.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  363. Half-Jap 说:
    @peterAUS

    I believe you are referring to the ndian Vedec texts. That was also a touchstone for me.
    Our quarrels seem so small and petty in relation to what we should study and prepare for in the event of an annihilating cataclysm, which seems to have happened.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  364. Half-Jap 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    I agree, and thanks; I suppose I should preface my statements earlier by stating that China is about power; some here in power understand that, and it’s easily felt when mingling with the chinese elites. But sadly, Korea is rather lower in the scale, as has been for ages, despite the proven potential.
    Japan is such a shock to the middle kingdom precisely because of how we were and still are. The tension, I suspect, is source of respect. Not out of kindness or whatever.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  365. Half-Jap 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    We are dealing with being the loser in a major war. So stop pretending that you have the upper hand, the virtue, or wisdom to dictate to us your righteousness. Japan had to deal with too many Korean and Taiwanese men wanting to help our war efforts back then; bet you never heard of that one. Japan’s policy was that they were equals to us and deserved equal treatment, even if the proles then were discriminatory. We seriously wanted them to be just like us. How can one despite those that one believes are worthy to be as great as us? We are all more or less an estranged family.

    Maybe from your perspective Jap media are hysterical, but that’s just you.
    Koreans and Chinese are now crazier in boozing; Japan is workng to tone it down. But, you sidestep the point I made, which is that emotional arguments are inferior to those based upon evidence, and evidence can be disputed. Nanking, comform women, whatever. Keep screaming. Not an argument, and not a basis for any reconciliation.

    Glad ROK doesn’t want to abide by the treaty; if only we had the balls to go all out and ask them to pay us for all that investment and blood we paid there, plus actual and punitive damages for their false accusations based upon a creative jap journalist.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
    , @Ajeoshi
  366. Half-Jap 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    I should also mention that I have nothing against the Koreas and feel quite happy that NORK may finally return to normal relations. I just want us to sort out the facts instead of emotional posturing or reasoning. Oh, I am confident in winning factually, hence also my stance. That’ll be the day…

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  367. Half-Jap 说:
    @Malla

    Indeed, thank you. My high school bengali teacher had much to teach, and things are not so simple in passing around blame or ownership.

    • 回复: @Malla
  368. @Ajeoshi

    J

    Aren’t the Japanese originally descended from Koreans who intermixed/exterminated the earlier Ainu who are some sort of Russian offshoot?

    • 回复: @Alden
  369. @Half-Jap

    HALF-JAP

    Koreans were still seeking employment opportunities in Japan into the early nineties. It was not until the economic crash that this ceased.

  370. peterAUS 说:
    @Half-Jap

    I believe you are referring to the ndian Vedec texts. That was also a touchstone for me

    .
    Much less spiritual/intellectual material I am afraid. Started with Daniken. From then on multiple sources.

    至于

    Our quarrels seem so small and petty in relation to what we should study and prepare for in the event of an annihilating cataclysm, which seems to have happened.

    好吧,是的,不是。
    Probabilities and proximities.

    I still believe that the closest threat which negatively affects my life is “progtards”.

    Then some virus escaping certain governments’ facility.
    Then M.A.D.

    After all of the above is the meteorite of Doom.

    等等

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  371. Anonymous[312]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    You are a slimy rat probably too far gone to be repaired. You are an embarrassment to decency and an affront to indigenous peoples everywhere who have fought and died to achieve independence, past and present. For India’s sake, I hope you’re not Indian, just an autistic goon pretending to be one.

    • 回复: @Malla
  372. Anonymous[312]• 免责声明 说:
    @jeff stryker

    This is not colonialism. A white man living in Hong Kong or Seoul has no colonial privileges. That is nonsense.

    I wasn’t speaking to expats living it up in the East. I was speaking to Western colonialism/imperialism and the beneficence bestowed on primitive natives by whites without whom they would surely be lost forever in the sticky goo of their indigenous filth.

    We can argue about colonialism and its crimes and I would not debate it

    Then we have no disagreement.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  373. Anonymous[312]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    But what you expect me to say ? You think local contributions to East Asia civilization match China ? Sorry at my ripe age i do not entertain delusions.

    No, but Korea held an important seat among the cultures of E. Asia. And it was one of its most advanced, 2nd only to China.

    But the comparison itself is nonsensical. China is a seminal civilization, the oldest continuous, and arguably the most advanced before the modern era.

    China is not even really a country, but a “civilizational culture”. It is a fount from which you draw from and contribute to.

    Before the 18th century, who even comes close besides other ancients like Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece and Rome?

    Why don’t you visit a museum in Korea. Learn some history. Pick up a book. Maybe you’ll learn Korea wasn’t always the backward, sh##y little country you grew up hearing about in the mid 20th century.

    I mean if we move to Europe and we focus on, say, the Be-Ne-Lux area all that comes to my mind is that they have run their economies commpetently since the 17th century, they painted some pretty things and produced some interesting thinkers but pillars of Western civilization they are not.

    The comparison isn’t quite right. Europe is a continent of many competing small states. In E. Asia, China is a continent. At times, it was ruled by native Hans. At other times, sinicized invaders.

    China is said to be a continuous civilization spanning 5000 years. But its ruling elites were not continuously native “Chinese”.

    Korea isn’t “Be-Ne-Lux”. Korea is also ancient. It’s arguably the 2nd oldest, continuous civilization in the world. It’s not a made-up country in the past 200 years. There were times when it was great. Times when it was not. Why don’t you educate yourself, foreign interloper.

    Neither of us was interested in raising a half-breed.

    Good for you. Maybe the half-breeding will be delegated to your snotty son who will inject further “high culture” to native troglodytes.

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Ajeoshi
  374. Anonymous[312]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    Guess what ? Most eyetees do not give a flying crapola, they are too busy trying to eke out a meager living.

    Because “Italy” did not become a unified “country”, until what, a couple hundred years ago? The comparisons are nonsense.

    In E. Asia, the borders have been pretty much where they have been for thousands of years. For Japan to violate these established borders and territories is perceived as a great affront.

    Also we do understand one fundamental concept of human interactions since the Paleolithic: lost wars have consequences, you lost a war, deal with it. Ditto for the ears-screeching constant Korean griping about the colonial era: you lost a war, get over it.

    Is that what you tell the Palestinians? You lost, accept your occupation/oppression?

    Korea is trying to deal with it… but you Americanos keep getting in the way.

    How can the colonial era be forgotten when Korea still lives in the shadow of that era, WWII and the Korean War? They’re reminded of it everyday: The Koreas are still divided. 30K American troops remain in SKorea. SKorea is essentially a US military base.

    Forget? How, when the past is the present?

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
    , @Ajeoshi
  375. Anonymous[312]• 免责声明 说:
    @Half-Jap

    But sadly, Korea is rather lower in the scale, as has been for ages, despite the proven potential.

    Ah yes… and whence this decline? Have you any clue the devastation wrought from the Hideyoshi warmongering for greater E. Asia? It not only destroyed Korea in the 17th century but resulted in the end of the Ming and the beginning of another drawn out conflict with the Manchus.

    But as an island country, what do you care, right? Nothing to see here. Just sail home and rebuild Nippon.

    Japan is such a shock to the middle kingdom precisely because of how we were and still are. The tension, I suspect, is source of respect. Not out of kindness or whatever.

    For a half-Jap, you seem to enjoy taking full credit for whatever the Japanese may or may not have done.

  376. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    打哈欠…..
    You are a little childish brainwashed prick who does not understand how the World works. I thought this place was for grown ups.

  377. Malla 说:
    @Half-Jap

    Welcome bud. Yes after independence we were brainwashed by the state.

  378. Malla 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    Woaw. That is shocking. For a European Country.

    most people , even right-wingers, are basically social justice warriors of the chicano type

    What about Lega Nord and Matteo Salvini?

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  379. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    China is a seminal civilization, the oldest continuous, and arguably the most advanced before the modern era.

    China is not even really a country, but a “civilizational culture”. It is a fount from which you draw from and contribute to.

    Stop blabbering your bullshit. Give freedom to Tibet and the Uyghurs before you talk about the rights of indigenous. Give freedom to inner Mongolia and Manchuria and remove the Han colonists from there. Remove the Han colonists from Taiwan and give the land back to the indigenous Taiwanese.

    Before the 18th century, who even comes close besides other ancients like Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece and Rome?

    Why forget India? Chinese scholars would come to India to learn. Indian scholars had no interest in Chinese philosophy .

  380. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    rom whence does so much (unwarranted) arrogance come? And the implicit disdain for Korea is so (miserably) loud and clear. Very odious.

    I disagree with you 1000%. But it’s because of “Japanese” like you (not that you really are) that rapprochement is difficult in E. Asia.

    “The New Korea” (1926) by Alleyne Ireland
    The state of 19th century Korea (Joseon Dynasty 조선왕조 李氏朝鮮) was very similar to that of present day North Korea. The majority of the population were starving and were enslaved by a small number of corrupt bureaucrats called Yangban (양반 両班) who were supported by Qing Dynasty China. (Just like Kim Jong-un and his henchmen rule North Korea with aid from China today) When Japan defeated China in Sino-Japanese war (1894-95), Yangban lost their backing.
    韩国加雅大学的一位韩国教授,讲出日本吞并朝鲜半岛的真相。 他于1923年在日本统治期间出生于韩国,因此他在日本统治期间认识了韩国。

    Also The Glorious Japanese developed Manchuria (Manchukuo) with heavy industries and created an area of stability while China was unstable politically. The Soviets looted these Japanese Industries and gave them the Chinese Communists which helped the Communists.

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Anonymous
  381. @Anonymous

    It is South Koreans and not Americans or Italians who are disliked in Southeast Asia. The average Filipino is more upset with Japanese war crimes in Philippines than Spanish colonial rule.

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  382. @Anonymous

    312

    When Koreans like you say “Yankee Go Home” I agree. Americans waste a great deal of money on the DMZ.

    You can join North Korea and eat tree bark like their people have to do for all I care.

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
    , @Anonymous
  383. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Half-Jap

    I hope reunification will happen no earlier than 30-40 years, imho right now it would be a major disaster for East Asia. First of all the North is too poor and unproductive, it would be at serious risk of turning into the equivalent of an Asian Southern Italy: a hopeless perennial welfare recipient.

    Secondly the NORKS have gone nuclear and there’s no way they would let go of something even the ROK notoriously ardently coveted for a long time.

    A unified Korea with nukes would probably trigger an additional arms race in East Asia, with Japan and possibly even Australia and Vietnam seeking the same kind of weapons.

    There’s a good chance then a unified Korea would turn into an economically bankrupt, nuclearly armed semi-pariah state: not a recipe for stability in an already volatile region.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  384. Ajeoshi 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Yes the money the US tax payer waste on the ROK is an absolute obscenity. The country has a 1.7 trillion dollar economy, first world standards of living (except for the elders), a mandatory draft system, one of the largest military budgets in the world and an excellent weapons industry.

    They can secure their own borders without shaking down America

  385. Ajeoshi 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Again, agreed. The behaviour of North East Asian tourists in South East Asian countries, of which Koreans in the Philippines are a prime example, is an absolute disgrace.

    Arrogance and violence toward the locals, pedophilia, abuse of mail-order brides, economic exploitation, crass in-your-face racism: you name it, they do it…on a massive scale.

    Over the last 2 decades the Japs have become less visible due to the crashing of the bubble economy, Koreans in the meantime have ascended to the throne for the most lurid tourists in the region.

  386. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Malla

    Salvini is at most a centrist civic nationalist: he’s absolutely a non-racist politician who is ok with African immigration as long as it follows legal routes (they do exist).

    He’s trying to inject some mild laissez-faire reforms into our sclerotic economy and partially re-do divorce law which is one of the most brutally skewed against men in the world.

    He’s probably more left wing than an average Clinton administration exec circa 1997.

    In this day and age, and in such country, though that’s enough to get you branded a nazi.

  387. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Anonymous

    No, but Korea held an important seat among the cultures of E. Asia. And it was one of its most advanced, 2nd only to China.

    All in all I agree, definitely Korea was more advanced than Japan for the whole of their respective history up until the latter part of 조선 시대. Japan in fact was mostly a backward barbaric backwater whose concept of international trade was pretty much piracy and little else.

    Only after the country leapfrogged ahead, thanks to the influx of Western technology and ideas, they started fabricating a non-sensical grandiose past that never existed. Not unlikely nordicist buffooons who claimed ancient Greece was populated by blue-eyed blondes in order to make up for their embarassing (up to the modern era) lack of any proper civilization or even history… as I wrote :”

    This though deserves an additional comment : too bad a certain Matthew Perry didn’t live long enough to share similar feelings. Be grateful your shogunate was wise enough to bow their collective head and go with the flow, otherwise you would still be known as a semi-Austronesian nation of 倭寇 more or less stuck in the iron age and run by a glorified mafia cartel (the samurai class).

    Reading, meet comprehension.

    But the comparison itself is nonsensical. China is a seminal civilization, the oldest continuous, and arguably the most advanced before the modern era.

    Before the 18th century, who even comes close besides other ancients like Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece and Rome?

    Agreed, thanks for proving my point.

    Why don’t you visit a museum in Korea. Learn some history. Pick up a book. Maybe you’ll learn Korea wasn’t always the backward, sh##y little country you grew up hearing about in the mid 20th century.

    I’ve been to 광주, been to the 경복궁 and I’ve also visited Kyoto and many other places , guess what ? All beautiful, all interesting, all of them made possible only by Chinese technologies and concepts.

    I’ve never said that Korea was backward, \$hitty or anything like that I just said both Korea and Japan were footnotes in the history of the only true giant of East Asia: China and i I still stand by my assertion, both your languages are like 40%-50% Chinese for Heavens sake.

    Korea isn’t “Be-Ne-Lux”. Korea is also ancient. It’s arguably the 2nd oldest, continuous civilization in the world.

    Please spare me your 단군 bull, Korea entered a fully civilisational phase relatively late, basically only during 고구려시대, all the preceding Koreanic groups (Yemaek, Buyeo etc) were not that much different from those semi if not fully nomadic confederacies typical of Northern Asian peoples.

    Why don’t you educate yourself, foreign interloper.

    I strongly suspect my education is vastly better than yours and as Jeff said you’re lucky if you’re gonna deal with foreign interlopers like us: whites who bring skills, stability and money. Wake the eff up buddy: you seem to obsess over Western and Japanese abuses of the past while in the meantime your elites, not unlike ours, have sold your country for a bag of pistacchios.

    You now have 2.5 million foreigners (probably more if illegals are properly counted) dwelling in your precious, pure-blood nation: Pakis, Bengalis, Uzbeks, even Africans etc. All invited by your greedy business elite craving an endless supply of cheap labour… sounds familiar ?

    Ah if i were you I would be a bit more cautious in exporting all those fun glitzy Studio Dragon dramas, depicting Korea as a super-wealthy, futuristic, upbeat society. Many third worlders might start buying into your PR stunts and next thing you know the Yemenis in Jeju do are not a once in a lifetime curiosity.

    Good for you. Maybe the half-breeding will be delegated to your snotty son who will inject further “high culture” to native troglodytes.

    My son lives in HK, where we all used to live. He studies computer science there and he’s very happy with his high school sweetheart, who happens to be a very pretty, very stylish, highly educated Cantonese girl who is studying to become an M&A lawyer, I’m very happy for him.

    Said so, sorry you guys drink like retards and behave like animals while drunk.

    As i said i lived in Hong Kong, overall I think Korea has a higher quality of life but in 3 years there I’ve never witnessed what i experience on an average weekday night in Seoul, which is more akin to how the most disgusting British Chavs behave during their taxpayer-funded romps in Greece or Spain than what you would expect in a civilised and developed Asian nation.

    After many years dealing with your rampant almost nihilistic alcoholism and your widespread petty soju-fueled violence I call a spade a spade: you don’t like to be called a troglodyte, don’t behave like one.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  388. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Anonymous

    In E. Asia, the borders have been pretty much where they have been for thousands of years. For Japan to violate these established borders and territories is perceived as a great affront.

    Ah so the Imjin wars, the Sengoku era, the Mongol invasions, the Balhae incursions (bordering on genocidal aggression) into northern territories, the Goguryeo-Silla-Tang tri-war etc etc were all figments of my imaginations, quite the stable borders there buddy.

    Is that what you tell the Palestinians? You lost, accept your occupation/oppression?

    The *ucks i give about the Palis plight are exactly (10000000* 5678426685656786)^0 – 1

    Actually I’m quite pissed off my government spent over the last few decades billions in aids to these scumbags while we have entire areas of the country effectively in third world conditions.

    Korea is trying to deal with it… but you Americanos keep getting in the way.

    So now I’m an Americano ? You will forgive me then if all of you look to me just like different shades of chink.

    How can the colonial era be forgotten when Korea still lives in the shadow of that era, WWII and the Korean War? They’re reminded of it everyday: The Koreas are still divided. 30K American troops remain in SKorea. SKorea is essentially a US military base.

    See my reply to Jeff: you have the money and the tech, defend yourselves, bums

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  389. Anon[497]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    I wonder who are more dishonest. Chinese or Indians?

    • 回复: @Malla
  390. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Half-Jap

    Japan had to deal with too many Korean and Taiwanese men wanting to help our war efforts back then; bet you never heard of that one

    Your bet would be ill-placed as I’m well aware of the multi-ethnic makeup of the Imperial Army. For instance I do know a large number of Kenpeitai members were of Korean stock to the point that 高麗棒子 is still a common slur used in China for Koreans.

    Also many non-Japs fought bravely in your army, to the point that quite a few of them (including many Koreans) are buried in the 靖国神社

  391. @Ajeoshi

    J

    Cut this angry young man some slack. How would you feel if confident, tall (ish), successful (Moderately) foreign men compared strode around with the better-looking women in your community?

    It is infuriating enough when foreign men rape your women like refugees in Europe.

    But when YOUR women nearly rape foreign men, the indignity is sizable.

    Americans would love to leave the Korean peninsula. Of course this might have a mild effect on the Seoul economy, not much though.

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
    , @Anonymous
  392. Ajeoshi 说:
    @jeff stryker

    ROFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLL that’s one of the most peculiar sides of Korean life for expats: dealing (mostly on the internet) with angry young spergies, pissed off by the behaviour of their own women.

    In every Asian nation, including Japan, you have a segment of the local male population constantly blabbering about local chicks cavorting with foregners, in no other place though that reach the fever-pitch intensity of Korea.

    I think this is due partly to some residual Jeoson era puritanism, where women where regarded as almost angelic creatures. Concepts scarcely applicable to to the current local female population, as in terms of sluttiness they’re second only to the Pinays in Asia. You live here and sometimes you get the impression that Japanese porn is finally real: school teachers sacking up with middle-schoolers, incests, married women cheating like crazy with the Chinese food delivery guy, high-schoolers getting sucked into S&M circles in exchange of expensive designer items etc: you name it, we have it.

    I forgot who said Koreans are the white trash of Asia, truer words were never spoken.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  393. Anon[256]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    Is Italy a good place to date women?

  394. Half-Jap 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    Astute point about the implication for reunification.
    As for the other response, I apologize for being so pompous and presumptive!

    • 回复: @Ajeoshi
  395. Half-Jap 说:
    @peterAUS

    Probabilities, to be sure.
    Here’s a cool dude presenting interesting findings around the world, as well as commentary on what we already have found, regarding ancient ruins.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @Malla
  396. @Ajeoshi

    It is nothing new. NJ Anglo-Saxons with their thin builds and pallid skin and thin hair and cubicle wart jobs are often resentful of Sicilian-Americans who do manly skilled labor like auto work or carpentry or construction whom Anglo-Saxon women often prefer because they can do masculine things like fix a sink pipe or repair a car engine-the plot of KARATE KID revolved around this.

    Of course the difference is that in New Jersey if the Anglo-Saxon says anything he is beaten up for it whereas in Korea most whites are so glad to be out of places like Italy or Southeast Michigan that how local males feel or what they say (Which we cannot understand much of anyhow) does not matter.

    You or I are not going to storm down to the beach and go mano-a-mano with local incels as oppose LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence.

    We are simply glad to be free of taxes, being white in countries where this is still viewed with some respect, being in traditional marriages to women who do not have more tattoos than a sailor and not having to care about the garbage of our own countries.

    I’ll concur that American enlisted soldiers are an unpleasant lot who leave the base to spread their VD’s in the local red light area and I don’t blame Koreans for wanting them out. My belief is that reunification would not go as smoothly as Germany however and it would require MORE US tax dollars to install a puppet government. Russians and Chinese have already long since cut North Korea off. Russia for economic reasons and China simply because they regard North Koreans as surplus to their requirements.

    Koreans might be considered the rednecks of Asia. Hicks who are openly unrefined. As merchants in the Los Angeles ghetto, they have demonstrated they get along with African-Americans about as well.

    • 回复: @Malla
  397. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    Both are dishonest but I think Indians are more. Personal experience. Indians are just second rate Jews. Cunning and untrustworthy slimeballs most of us anyways. Some of us are really honest and sincere but only a tiny minority.

  398. 玛拉

    A Brahmin once told me that Indians rule by confusion. Lower caste ones anyhow. This is true. I find that Brahmin, unused to kissing ass, generally are no good at being servile. You can trust them more than, say, Nair. Because when pressed, Brahmin will tell you to piss off. Brahmin haughtiness is better than Malbari trickery.

    • 回复: @Malla
  399. Alden 说:
    @Malla

    2 words More Welfare

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  400. @Alden

    ALDEN

    Indians don’t come to the US for welfare. They wreak all sorts of havoc in the IT industry but they are not welfare leeches. Pakistanis in UK might be accused of that but Indians in the US hold some kind of job. Might be lousy but they get up in the morning and do something.

    When appraising the extent of the damage other groups are having, let us be realistic about their role. Indians take jobs. They are not supported by middle class whites…they replace them.

    It is like those who say Jews are physically dangerous to Gentiles. This is wrong. Jews won’t physically harm Gentiles personally. Whatever else they do, Jews rarely pose a physical threat to non-Jews.

    Similarly, Indians and Chinese in the US are not welfare leeches. They would not come to the US unless it paid better than their own countries. No Brahmin comes to the US to live in a trailer on welfare.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Alden
  401. Ajeoshi 说:
    @Half-Jap

    No need for apologies, I am too at times a bit too aggressive so as I give it I also expect to take it, interesting convo by the way.

    • 回复: @Half-Jap
  402. Haruto Rat 说:
    @Bliss

    That kind of hair does not accompany white skin and blue eyes does it?

    Sorry to interfere with your little friendly catfight… 🙂 …but: the combination of white skin, black curly hair and blue eyes is actually quite common (meaning 1+%) in Poland, Baltic states and Eastern Europe generally.

    • 回复: @Alden
  403. Alden 说:
    @jeff stryker

    More or less. And only about 2,500 years ago.

    • 回复: @Malla
  404. Alden 说:
    @jeff stryker

    My post didn’t refer to Indians in America. It referred to the blacks and browns (Arabs africans pakis) invading their old colonial oppressors in Europe.

  405. Alden 说:
    @jeff stryker

    You aren’t aware that the Indian cheap labor tech workers bring their elderly grandparents and fake grandparents to America as soon as possible to get SSI Medicare Medicaid free transportation and all the welfare for old Americans on their 65th birthday are you?

    Sunnyvale Cupertino and all those Santa Clara towns are full of White haired Chinese and Indians creeping along on their walkers.

    The automatic \$800-900 a month SSI payment that kicks in at 65 goes a long way towards paying the mortgage on the 25 people living in the 1,800 sq ft house.

    The west coast NYC and other parts of the USA are becoming the old age pension and medical system of China and India. And the SSI cash payments make it possible for them to price Americans out of the housing market.

  406. Alden 说:
    @Haruto Rat

    He didn’t mean the curly hair of Whites. By tightly curled he meant the kinky frizzy hair of black Africans totally different type of hair from the hair of Whites.

  407. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    I find that Brahmin, unused to kissing ass, generally are no good at being servile.

    Oh they have been servile when it suits them. They are servile when they see strength. They have been Servile to Mughals and Europeans but once they get power, they backstab.

  408. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    It is nothing new. NJ Anglo-Saxons with their thin builds and pallid skin and thin hair and cubicle wart jobs are often resentful of Sicilian-Americans

    There are always gonna be some women who would get attracted to the seemingly wilder uncivilised men. Take Israel for example. Many Israeli Jewish women are not attracted to their pussyboy Israeli men and find romance in the arms of a brave Arab. Hardly any Arab women find Israeli guys attractive and such marriages are nearly non existent. But the other way round is very common. And this pisses of the pussyboy Israeli guys so much that now a days they attack such Arab-Jewish pairings.
    Check out these insecure losers.

    Lehava:以色列团体将犹太人/阿拉伯恋人分隔开

    以色列警方因制止犹太阿拉伯约会而被拘留15人

  409. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    I’ve known many Anglo-Indians.

    Most Anglo-Indians have left India. In the past they dominated the railways and education. But they had a tough time after 1947 in clannish India. Most have gone to Australia, New Zealand or Canada. I mean, the Anglo Indians had a semi British and semi Indian culture. But in manners and sense of cleanliness they were more British. So they would not prefer to live in shithole India with people spitting on roads, shitting and peeing everywhere, thuggery, cheatin-swindin everywhere, corruption, goons, people farting laud and proud, stinky everywhere and garbage. Things became pretty crap after 1947 with respect to thuggery and corruption. Since many Anglo Indians were on average quite well off so they migrated away in droves. Indeed they were some of the first from India to migrate to Western countries. Same with the Chinese in China Town Calcutta, most left for Australia, Canada or Taiwan. The Chinese were interned in India during the 1962 Indo-China War, parallel to the internment in concentration camps of Japanese Americans in WW2 USA.
    There are two seats in the Indian Parliament reserved for Anglo Indians but I think most have left India.
    There is great movie on Anglo Indians called Bhowani Junction starring Stewart Granger & Ava Gardner.

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @jeff stryker
    , @Malla
  410. peterAUS 说:
    @Half-Jap

    Good basic, introductory, video.
    That guy is O.K. fellow.

  411. Anonymous[673]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    Why forget India?

    India is another truly great civilization but you have nothing to do with that. May Lord Shiva, the great Destroyer, smite you for your perfidy.

    The majority of the population were starving and were enslaved by a small number of corrupt bureaucrats called Yangban

    No one is quibbling about economic aid and development and Japan’s contribution to that. It’s all the other terrible things that came attached with it.

    Japan is always welcome as a friend and partner. But it is not welcome to erase Korea’s identity and undermine its sovereignty. And that’s what Japan tried to do circa 1910.

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  412. Anonymous[673]• 免责声明 说:
    @jeff stryker

    1. “When Koreans like you say “Yankee Go Home” I agree.”
    2. “You can join North Korea and eat tree bark like their people have to do for all I care.”

    Why the false choice? Is there no other option besides occupation and bark?

    Incidentally, NKorea has been under US sanctions since the Korean War.

    Americans waste a great deal of money on the DMZ.

    Are you suggesting that Washington’s presence in Korea is motivated by feelings of beneficence towards the Korean people?

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  413. Anonymous[673]• 免责声明 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Cut this angry young man some slack. How would you feel if confident, tall (ish), successful (Moderately) foreign men compared strode around with the better-looking women in your community?

    It is infuriating enough when foreign men rape your women like refugees in Europe.

    Koreans might be considered the rednecks of Asia.

    ^^ Your true colors. Get past the grin and you’re just another white prick in Asia.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  414. Anonymous[673]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    I hope reunification will happen no earlier than 30-40 years, imho right now it would be a major disaster for East Asia

    They can have some variation of, “one country, 2 systems”.

    Yes the money the US tax payer waste on the ROK is an absolute obscenity.

    The US “wastes” money on its own behalf.

    both your languages are like 40%-50% Chinese for Heavens sake.

    True. But why is this in any way “bad”? Today, Koreans (in fact the world) import English loan words. Does that make them any “less”?

    And what does it matter how Korea (or anyone else) compares to China? Like everyone else, the Korean people live and breathe for their own sake; cherish their heritage because it is theirs; and fight for their territory and that which was bequeathed to them by their forebears because it is their inheritance.

    Please spare me your 단군 bull, Korea entered a fully civilisational phase relatively late, basically only during 고구려시대

    Goguryeo (37 BCE – 668 BCE) was late? Compared to whom?

    Why are you so bitter? Everyone has founding myths. What makes Korea’s more deserving of scorn?

    Koreans do not claim Gojoseon was ancient Greece. It simply marks the mythic/historical beginnings of the “Korean people”.

    I strongly suspect my education is vastly better than yours

    “Vastly better”? Really?

    Maybe so. But what does your education count for when it’s used to prove how much better you are than everyone else? When I said you should “educate yourself”, the goal was not the acquisition of facts but empathy.

    My son lives in HK, where we all used to live. He studies computer science there and he’s very happy with his high school sweetheart, who happens to be a very pretty, very stylish, highly educated Cantonese girl who is studying to become an M&A lawyer, I’m very happy for him.

    Congrats on your half-breed grandkids.

    I call a spade a spade: you don’t like to be called a troglodyte, don’t behave like one.

    I don’t care what you call anyone. But the fact that you call your home of 10 years and your wife’s native people “troglodytes” bespeaks more of your humanity than theirs.

    At the end of the day, you’re just another typical white guy in Korea. And that’s not a compliment.

    Ah so the Imjin wars, the Sengoku era, the Mongol invasions, the Balhae incursions (bordering on genocidal aggression) into northern territories, the Goguryeo-Silla-Tang tri-war etc etc were all figments of my imaginations, quite the stable borders there buddy.

    I’m not sure what you’re trying to point out. That there were conflicts in Korea? Or that borders were very fluid?

    Following unification, borders were relatively stable.

    The Mongols did not change Korea’s borders. Korea maintained nominal sovereignty.

    See my reply to Jeff: you have the money and the tech, defend yourselves, bums

    Sure, as soon as Washington makes for the exit.

    I forgot who said Koreans are the white trash of Asia, truer words were never spoken.

    Really, “vastly more educated” white man? That’s the sort of thing that drools from your mouth after 10 years overseas?

  415. Anon[256]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    A lot of Anglo Indians still live in India. The Indian govt gives them reservations in the parliament, jobs, and universities.

    Anglo Indians dominated the railways under the British Raj. Their English language skills and British ancestry made them a favored class. After the British Raj left, the Anglo Indians declined quickly in the new India.

    Things were crap before 1947 and after 1947. The difference is that without the British colonialist nepotism, the Anglo Indians were unable to compete.

    Anglo Indians aren’t well off. They have a reputation for being poor, lazy, and too fond of alcohol/partying. They fit in with Goa much more than Bangalore. In a hypercompetitive and ruthless country like India, Anglo Indians have a difficult time competing.

    Anglo Indians are clannish and nepotistic (as is everybody in India), but they’re highly unmotivated and r-selected. So they suffer.

    A good movie called Cotton Mary was made about them. Unfortunately, the movie was banned because the Anglos shrieked and complained about the movie being “offensive ”

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @jeff stryker
    , @Malla
  416. @Malla

    玛拉

    I knew a Malayalam actor whose grandfather was an English soldier who had stayed in India and ran a hotel-his grandfather was in his eighties by then but still spry. Once you get down to 25% English blood, it is hard to distinguish between Anglo-Indians and full-blooded Indians.

    Similarly, with English people who have a great-grandmother who was Indian like Billy Connelly the singer or Vivian Leigh the actress from GONE WITH THE WIND you cannot really distinguish them from other whites.

    For example, Ava Gardner in real life is 100% British. But looks dark enough to be a quarter Indian. Billy Connelly the singer looks 100% white.

    There are some Anglo-Indians in Kochi and Calcutta. By that I mean more there than elsewhere in India.

    Also, the India you describe is not in the controlled environment of Jo-Jo or Andheri. There are parts of Jo-Jo that are much cleaner than the worst slums in the US.

    There are a few Chinese left in the leather markets in Calcutta. Leather work in Eastern India is heavily Chinese.

    Again, I was merely doing jobs in India and only lived in your country for a few months over the space of ten years.

    • 回复: @Malla
  417. @Anonymous

    I should state that I have not set foot on Korean soil in my entire life. My experiences with Koreans are limited to Detroit-where there is a sizable community of them-and Cebu.

    As a Korean, you’re merely referring to your own country and not speaking for Southeast Asians who are more than happy to have older and more mellow white retirees or middle-aged businessmen augmenting the GDP with their life savings than a bunch of wild young Korean tourists drugging and fighting in bars with Filipinos. Statistically, and there is no refuting this, Koreans are far more likely to end up in jail Philippines for being social degenerates and civil disruptions than white men.

    Oh, I am not saying that Southeast Asia has not gotten despicable white pedophiles. But these older white pedophiles are quiet-living and not swinging chairs in bar fights like Koreans.

    Remember that whites are fully aware of your laws. Any trouble of any sort in Seoul, and that foreigner is deported. Doesn’t matter if he has married a local woman and put hundreds of thousands of dollars into the economy. Your government doesn’t fool around with white troublemakers. Nor should Koreans put up with white (Or any other non-Korean) problems. Get rid of them.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @tamo
  418. @Anonymous

    673

    YANKEE GO HOME was a book written by my Korean poly-sci teacher at Central Michigan University.

    Which, by the way, I agree with completely. Get the US forces out of Seoul and use the tax money to repair the potholes on the Detroit runway. US military expenditures are turning the America into a second world slum of lousy infrastructure, unsafe streets, homelessness, zero government investment in business-creation and so on. And since Koreans themselves don’t want our war machine, why don’t we just leave?

    Best case scenario would be German reunification but I doubt that the North Koreans would go that way. They would want a dictatorship and if they could run Seoul they would flush it right down the toilet.

    But you know, that would not really be our problem.

    • 回复: @Malla
  419. Anon[152]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    I’m aware of the reservations (nominated seats) in Lok Sabha but could you elaborate on the job/university reservations?

    They fit in with Goa much more than Bangalore.

    Goans fit well in Goa and all India is trying to fit into Bangalore, which is a bad fit. I’ve heard at second hand Bangalore is much less pleasant a place than it used to be.

    They fit in with Goa

    Well, that’s good though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_states_and_union_territories_by_GDP_per_capita

    一部好电影

    Well, that’s the thing; too much of people’s world-perception derives from movies and media. The one you mentioned is probably good, do you know if it is available outside India?

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  420. @Anon

    ANON

    Gora ex-Indian expat worker here.

    I befriended an Malayalam Anglo-Indian actor whose grandfather was an old English soldier remained after Independence and Anglo-Indians have an easier time making it in Kollywood (Not Bollywood) by dint of physical appearance.

    When you talk about R-selection, you are really referring to the status of the white male. If he was some British infantry grunt or railroad foreman with some 14 year old village girl mistress (English soldiers seemed like Indian wives REALLY YOUNG) then indeed he was not going to be leaving much for his grandchildren.

    On the other hand, if your grandfather was Lord such-and-such and your grandmother was a Parsee merchant’s daughter then chances are you have quite a bit of cash. But as Malla once remarked, most of these people took off back to England.

    There is a class/caste dichotomy here. Some English soldiers who would have been considered lower class bumpkins in England were able to marry up in India. Similarly, some 14 year old Indian village girls from the lower castes married up the English food chain/class system.

    In any event, once you are down to 25% white it does not really matter. Russel Peters looks Indian to me.

    Billy Connelly and Vivian Leigh looked white to me although both are part Indian.

    As for Goa, the relaxed atmosphere there is a Latin thing.

    When I was in Kochi it was not the Anglo-Indians or Brahmin or Nair who were VIP elites. It was the so-called Syrian Christians descended from St. Thomas. I’d lay money they were actually Jews but they swore to me they were descended from St. Thomas’s Christian apostles in the fifth century. Nobody really knows where they are from. Latest studies suggest they are in fact Iraqi Jews. But who really knows.

    • 回复: @Malla
  421. @Anon

    152

    Anglo-Indians have an easier time making it in Malayalam cinema. Maybe Bollywood too.

    Bangalore is basically Silicone Valley part two.

    Goans are a mixed-race group so of course Anglo-Indians will fit in there.

  422. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    A lot of Anglo Indians still live in India.

    Yes but a good chunk of them have left.

    The Indian govt gives them reservations in the parliament, jobs, and universities.

    What? Anglo Indians have no reservations in jobs and universities whatsoever. These reservations are for lower castes and tribes.

    Things were crap before 1947 and after 1947.

    After 1947, the power went into the hands of corrupt politicians. Anglo Indians spread across the country and not concentrated in a particular constituency, looked at with hatred for being half British by the brainwashed racist nepotist Indian population and their chances were definitely fading. India is all about tribes competing with each other to get power using the democratic system. And since a large chunk of them have left India their numbers have thinned further to not make much of a difference anyways.

    Anglo Indians are clannish and nepotistic (as is everybody in India)

    Yes they are nepotistic but their nepotism is very very mild compared to other Indians. And in a country like India not being nepotistic sets you up for failure.

  423. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    India is another truly great civilization but you have nothing to do with that.

    Says a foreigner who according to our traditions is a lowly unclean barbarian Mlecha.

    May Lord Shiva, the great Destroyer, smite you for your perfidy.

    LOL you really do not understand Hinduism. Please do not even try.

  424. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    But it is not welcome to erase Korea’s identity and undermine its sovereignty. And that’s what Japan tried to do circa 1910.

    And that is exactly what the People’s Republic of China has done in Tibet and is doing now in a big way to the Uighurs. And as far as erase identity, textbooks in Korea during Japanese rule included both Japanese as well as Korean Hangul script.

  425. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Get the US forces out of Seoul and use the tax money to repair the potholes on the Detroit runway.

    I would say, get the US forces everywhere around the world back to the USA. The founding fathers had warned about never becoming an Empire and strangely the USA turned out exactly that, an empire.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  426. Malla 说:
    @Alden

    Yet the Japanese are very different than Koreans in personality.
    The Japanese are like the Anglo-Teuton-Scandinavians of East Asia, honest, disciplined, attention to details.
    Koreans and Northern Chinese are like the Slavs while Southern Chinese and Vietnamese are like the Mediterraneans of East Asia. Southern Cantonese Chinese are literally also the Jews of East Asia.
    Other South East Asians are the Turks and Arabs of East Asia, undisciplined, semi-barbaric medium IQ masses.
    Papua New Guineans/Australian Abos are the black Negroid Africans of the Asia Pacific region primitive and low IQ jungle people.
    White Australians are like the White South Africans of Asia Pacific Region.
    White New Zealanders are more like Canadians than Aussies and Maoris are like Native Americans.
    Mongols are to East Asia like the Sikhs are to India, bigger and more imposing.
    India overall is the Brazil of this region, super mixbreed melting pot with big differences in between poor and rich, medium IQ semi barbaric masses. Bangladesh its Venezuela. Indians, atleast some of her castes can be considered the other Jews with the Southern Chinese.

  427. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Vivian Leigh looked white to me

    Vivian Leigh’s Indian side was Parsi. Freddie Mercury (real name Farrokh Bulsara) was Parsi too but born in the Indian diaspora in Africa. Most Brits thought he was White. When I told my British friend that Freddie Mercury was Indian, his response was that ‘But he was White!!’. Of course Freddie did not look Nordic, he had a Med look in him. Even though Parsis do not look pure present day Persians/Iranains overall and most probably have mixed with Indians in the past. Having dated an Iranian (Persian) girl in the past, I can tell you that Persians are really a population in between Europeans and South Asians in looks and personality. Iranians too are mixed race like South Asians (they have quite a variation in looks) but the Aryan is probably much much stronger in them than among us South Asians. I had read somewhere that Tehran is more similar to Athens and Madrid than the outright shitholes of Mumbai and Cairo.

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  428. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    Anglo Indians were also big in the Indian Army.

  429. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    And that’s what Japan tried to do circa 1910.

    Due to the Glorious Japanese Empire, population in Korea which was falling before the annexation rose at a rate higher than Japan itself and much higher than rest of Asia. Obviously this was due to improved nutrition and health after the population was rescued from the slavery under Yangbans, the Koreans were literally slaves of the Qing Chinese before Japanese Empire.
    Also during the Japanese Empire, North Koreans were richer than South Koreans but thanks to Communism the whole thing has reversed.
    Similarly, India’s population which was static started increasing after contact with Europeans. The British destroyed Islamic power of India due to which Hindus could live in peace. Similarly the British gave education to the lower castes for the first time in 2000 years, the lower castes were 更坏 than slaves of upper castes.
    European Empires in Africa stopped slavery which was common in Africa. Most travelers to Africa, before European rule spoke of the population decreasing due to tribal warfare, disease and Arab-Somali slave raiders. Even the Italians in their very short lived rule over Ethiopia banned slavery in they country and released the slaves.

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  430. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Also, the India you describe is not in the controlled environment of Jo-Jo or Andheri. There are parts of Jo-Jo that are much cleaner than the worst slums in the US.

    You are joking right? Yes there are parts of India which are clean but that must be like 0.000001% of the Indian landmass. What is Jo Jo? Do you mean Juhu in Bombay?
    I remember in my childhood when I used to come back to India from abroad, and the airplane door would open after landing and the whiff of outside air would enter the airplane, it really smelt of shit and pee. At the freakin airports!!! Which were the cleanest parts of India then. However the airports today on major cities have been upgraded to World standards. But that was what it was once. The whole country stank of shit and pee. Enter an Indian village in mainland India (outside the Himalayas) and first thing you do is smell shit and pee. It is only the parts of India near Tibet like Sikkim, North East and the southern state of Kerela which are cleaner. One of friends saw floating excreata near him while swimming in Cheanai (Madras) beach.
    Strangely some of the Brahmin dominated places in North India like holy Varanasi are some of the dirtiest shitholes on planet Earth giving tough competition to slums of Africa. A White American hillybilly trailer trash guy would vomit on Varanasi railway station after getting down from the train and run back to USA. An escaped North Korean would run back to Supreme Leader Kim’s arm if he were to experience some of the Brahmin dominated towns in North India. They are hell on Earth, gutter hell. The only Whites who can survive these places are hippies and semi-hippies (libtards) as they themselves are unwashed.

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  431. Half-Jap 说:
    @Ajeoshi

    You have my thanks and respect for the exchange. I look forward to more 😀 / ( ̄▽ ̄)ノ

  432. @Malla

    玛拉

    I lived in Kochi and I would say it is about on par with the more rundown parts of North American cities like Pittsburgh or St. Louis or parts of Chicago. Juhu and Andheri have areas that are nice. Of course they are ridiculously expensive for Indian standards but they are not as rundown as an Alabama trailer park.

    Socialism and kicking Brahmin out of Kerala sort of improved it when combined with remissions from U.A.E. Chennai is still poor and I have heard (Not seen) that Bihar poverty is unimaginable.

    Goa is not terribly poor. The plumbing is functional there.

    Of course parts of India are as poor as Africa. I don’t dispute that. But the wealthy live pretty well in India. Parsee are doing better than your average white trailer park hick in the US. Brahmin in North India don’t live badly, even if their temples are filthy.

    Chandigargh is quite clean and orderly.

    I expected all of India to be much poorer when I went there, put it that way.

  433. @Malla

    Malla is a female Indian name, isn’t it?

    Well, it is only an avatar and to each their own.

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  434. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Female name is Mala, with a single ‘l’.

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  435. @Malla

    玛拉

    I should have remembered that.

  436. Che Guava 说:
    @Malla

    I have oo idea what the ‘Kamakaze Song’ let alone heard it. There are two ways to interpret the way you have mis-spelt it.

    1. A song about wind from cooking pots, or

    2. A song about a gay male wind.

    If you want to see some examples, simply look up the name as I spelt it. You will find a few (including, possibly, part of mime, at a rock venue), but none of the old elebtro-punk, some of which was pretty good, but as performance, partly faked.

    I first met the members years ago in a park on the shores of the industrrial parts of Kwasaki, after having seen their electro-punk act two or three times.

    The interest of the keader was mainly in a penis-cult trad. Festive style, one can(t say band, but maybe ‘colunn’.

  437. Che Guava 说:
    @Malla

    I have oo idea what the ‘Kamakaze Song’ let alone heard it. There are two ways to interpret the way you in the way you spell it.

    1. A song about wind from cooking pots, or

    2. A song about a gay male wind.

    If you want to see some examples of the sound and look of the band I mention, simply look up the name as I spelt it. You will find a few (including, possibly, part of mime, at a rock venue), but none of the old elebtro-punk, some of which was pretty good, but as performance, partly faked.

    I first met the core members years ago, at a music festival in a big park on the shores of the industrrial parts of Kwasaki, after having seen their electro-punk act two or three times.

    The interest of the keader was mainly in a penis-cult trad. Festive style act, one can(t say band, but maybe ‘colunn’, whch is what the term in lapanese means.

    Anyway, they conthnuee with the ekectro-punk fnr a whhle,affter that but then went into akmost full trad. Festive mnde.

    Their site used to have many great collages (I suspect that thehr removal was because big parw of the bca koundsij know why i
    I thnk, the backgrounds were from hiupt other life as a gaphic designer. Not even really good collages, no multi-layers, but pointed in Japanese. So good

    If you fail to find anything with the roman alphabet version I was postimg above, ropy-and-paste the below. Good sounds.

    切腹ビストルズ。 

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  438. Anonymous[376]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    And as far as erase identity, textbooks in Korea during Japanese rule included both Japanese as well as Korean Hangul script.

    Initially, and then it was phased out. If you’re trying to argue that Japan implemented zero policies to infringe on Korea’s cultural sovereignty, you’re emphatically mistaken. But it is mistakes like these that you’re wont to make because you are a tendentious quisling.

    Due to the Glorious Japanese Empire, population in Korea which was falling before the annexation rose at a rate higher than Japan itself and much higher than rest of Asia. Obviously this was due to improved nutrition and health after the population was rescued from the slavery under Yangbans

    I’ve debunked these kinds of arguments already. You’d better stop it or your rich neighbor might get some weird ideas.

    the Koreans were literally slaves of the Qing Chinese before Japanese Empire.

    False. But it is an erroneous argument used by ultra-right wing Japanese nationalists to defend Japanese colonialism.

    Also during the Japanese Empire, North Koreans were richer than South Koreans but thanks to Communism the whole thing has reversed.

    And thanks to US policy of sanctions/isolation and military threats. That seems to pretty much do the trick everywhere.

    Similarly, India’s population which was static started increasing after contact with Europeans.

    And why was that a good thing? Is there nothing you wouldn’t exchange for more Kibbles ‘n Bits?

    As I’ve said a number of times, the good that came out of slavery, colonization and disenfranchisement are not what’s being debated. But there was a price to be paid for that. And it is that cost that is the source of contention.

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  439. Anonymous[376]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    I would say, get the US forces everywhere around the world back to the USA. The founding fathers had warned about never becoming an Empire and strangely the USA turned out exactly that, an empire.

    You are really a strange guy. Haven’t you been the fawning lapdog for empire?

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    , @Malla
  440. Anonymous[376]• 免责声明 说:
    @jeff stryker

    I think you protest a little too much about Koreans in SE Asia.

    Maybe Koreans are everything as you described in the Philippines and elsewhere. But, really, who cares.

    If you want to talk about bad optics, it’s not the Koreans or other poorly behaving Asians. It’s Anglo sexpats. You guys stick out like a hairy thumb.

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  441. Anon[299]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    How is Goa in comparison to the rest of India?

    I heard it’s becoming dirty there too, but I can’t confirm personally.

    You used to hear a lot about Western Hippies and also Russians traveling to Goa, but the tourism numbers have fallen a lot in recent years. Does Goa still have the same fun/party vibe or has it become like the rest of the country?

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  442. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    I’ve debunked these kinds of arguments already. You’d better stop it or your rich neighbor might get some weird ideas.

    Facts are facts, even if you do not accept them.

    False. But it is an erroneous argument used by ultra-right wing Japanese nationalists to defend Japanese colonialism.

    True, a fact some do not want to accept.

    And thanks to US policy of sanctions/isolation and military threats. That seems to pretty much do the trick everywhere.

    With Communism, you do not need any sanctions.

    As I’ve said a number of times, the good that came out of slavery, colonization and disenfranchisement are not what’s being debated.

    Colonialism stopped slavery in many parts of the world you dumbfart.

    But there was a price to be paid for that.

    In some cases yes, in some cases no.

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  443. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    How is Goa in comparison to the rest of India?

    Goa was better during Portuguese days when the difference in between the rich and poor was very less and that carried on after India invaded and captured it. In my childhood I saw a chicken farmers in Goa owning cars which was something rare in the rest of India. So Goa has a higher standard of living than the rest of India and the gap in between the rich and poor is low.
    But with time two bad things have happened:
    Rapid rise of mafia activities, some related to mining and some related to clubs. Influx of Nigerians and Israelis many of them connected to mafia like activities. “Goa has lost her innocence”, that is what a State level minister commented once.
    Secondly the greater influx of non Goan Indian tourists which has driven away foreign tourists from many traditional beaches to newer remoter beaches. Some of these beaches to try out are Cola beach and Palolem beach. Even the local Goans try to keep other Indians away from such beaches frequented by Whites/East Asians. Baga beach and Calingute have been taken over and destroyed by Indian tourists who dirty the place up and then stare with desperation at bikini clad Westerners.

    I heard it’s becoming dirty there too,

    Compared to before, sure. There has been a lot of influx from parts of India outside Goa.

    Does Goa still have the same fun/party vibe or has it become like the rest of the country?

    It has reduced but it still has those vibes last time I checked. There have been some murders, rapes of Western/Russian tourists which could have had a negative effect. There was a huge Russian influx in the past with many signs in Goa written in Cyrillic but as the Russian economy suffered there has been a drop in tourists. Also Russians and Westerners normally do not get along well. The locals complain that the Russians are much more frugal as compared to Westerners.
    The worst are the Israelis who out haggle local Indians.

    But anyways, yes the party atmosphere is still on.

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  444. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    You are really a strange guy.

    You are even stranger. You bray and bleat about evul Japanese Empire and evul European Empires but are mum about Tibet and Xinjiang and the Chinese Han colonisation of Taiwan. Or the Han Chinese colonisation of Manchuria and Inner Mongolia. Nor do you respond about the Muslim Bangladeshi colonisation of the Buddhist Chittagong Hill Tract tribals . Or the colonisation of Irian Jaya/West Papua by the Javans and other Indonesians. Why so mum?

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  445. Malla 说:
    @Che Guava

    Hey I checked out the Seppuku Pistols. They are awesome. I love Taiko music. Thanks a lot.

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  446. @Malla

    I first arrived in Goa in December 1999 and it seems to have changed. When I was first stayed at Baga Beach there were few Indians and no Nigerians or Russians. Kashmiri carpet salesmen were the drug dealers and they sold hashish. Some non-Goan Indians offered heroin and ecstasy but cocaine was not really popular then-I assume Nigerians sell this-and methamphetamine was unheard of.

    There were always Israelis in Goa. But no Russians at that time.

    I went to the Full Moon Rave 1999. It was all twenty-something backpackers and hippies. If were Gen Y, you would have referred to us as hipsters.

    The majority were Brits. The few Americans were older hippies who actually lived there and ran hotels or curio shops.

    There were a few older Portuguese there who’d stayed on after Independence in 1967 who were born in Goa and wouldn’t leave-it was odd to see white people speaking fluent Hindi.

    There were a few Bengali migrant hookers who worked the foreign trade who stayed at Vasco beach during the tourist season.

    There was a laid-back Latin vibe to Goa then.

    Of course now I am 45 and that was twenty years ago.

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  447. @Anonymous

    376

    The ration of Westerners in Philippines jails versus Koreans would be HQ in scale. Most pedophiles and prostitute-addicts are shy, nervous losers who don’t get into bar fights or physical altercations like South Koreans.

    White expats might be doing nefarious things in SEA but they are not a civil disruption. Most Koreans in Philippines are younger. Most whites are over forty, an age when physical altercations and bar brawls drops precipitously among males in general statistically.

    Short of murder, the Korean Embassy will get them out of jail. The American Embassy won’t. If you are an American tourist you are fully aware that if you break the law an Embassy lawyer ain’t coming to your rescue.

    In all fairness, the Koreans are not operating child pornography rings or underage hookers in girly bars. American crimes in Philippines are criminal enterprise. Korean crimes consist of being jackasses.

    That is the impression Koreans in Ccbu leave you with. Bad manners, unrefined, drunks, brawlers, lacking social graces…but not calculated evil or pedophilia.

  448. @Malla

    玛拉

    I showed up in India in the late nineties and your flirtation with socialism (Not communism) was fairly disastrous for North India.

    It was the late nineties and India was still recovering from the socialism of the seventies.

  449. Anonymous[376]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    Facts are facts, even if you do not accept them.

    Do you have trouble considering both sides and in toto? There’s nothing that is pure evil. Good things can arise from the bad. Bad things can arise from the good. Good and bad can coexist together.

    True, a fact some do not want to accept.

    Korea was not a colony of Qing or any variant of that. Both countries were suffering from longterm decline.

    Chinese Han colonisation of Taiwan. Or the Han Chinese colonisation of Manchuria and Inner Mongolia. Nor do you respond about the Muslim Bangladeshi colonisation of the Buddhist Chittagong Hill Tract tribals . Or the colonisation of Irian Jaya/West Papua by the Javans and other Indonesians. Why so mum?

    I’m not familiar with every issue. I can’t speak on it all.

    On Manchuria, surely you understand that it was the Manchus that invaded and conquered China. As a result, Manchuria was folded into greater China.

    I believe Taiwan was “part” of China (at least informally) for centuries. It officially became a part of China under the Manchus. Same with Tibet.

    As far as I understand, the Chinese do not attempt to eradicate local cultures and languages.

    It would be great if all “distinct” cultures could have their own “country” if they so desired, but on a practical basis, that is probably not possible. What’s fundamentally important is respect for native cultures and their capacity to preserve their identities. For the most part, I believe the Chinese do that.

    “Colonization” (at least by one definition) is the attempt to enslave or eradicate native people’s right to their indigenous way of life and/or use native people as chattel to procure resources. The Chinese do not do that (as far as I understand it). But the Japanese and Western empires did.

    In Israel, for instance, the crime of the Zionists is not whether they agree to a 2-state solution or not. Their ultimate crime lies in mistreating the Palestinian people as 2nd class citizens. If Israel wants the land, then subsume the Palestinians into their own populations. But if Jews wish to remain a distinct people, then they should allow the Palestinians the right of statehood and negotiate in good faith towards that objective.

    Instead, Israel wants the land, but not the people, and oppress the locals.

    But you believe oppression in exchange for Kibbles ‘n Bits is perfectly fine. Israel tells us that the rising obesity rate in Gaza is evidence that they’re not being mistreated. Their population is also on the rise. Surely, then, Israelis aren’t doing anything wrong?

    You’re probably a Zionist too. You will tell us that Jews made the desert flowers bloom.

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    , @Malla
  450. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Korea was not a colony of Qing or any variant of that. Both countries were suffering from longterm decline.

    It was not not a colony, agreed but the Qing had enormous power over Korea. Check out post 397. Koreans including the elites could not question any Qing Chinese policy with respect to Korea.

    On Manchuria, surely you understand that it was the Manchus that invaded and conquered China. As a result, Manchuria was folded into greater China.

    This is one of the dumbest thing I have ever heard. it is like the USA claiming Great Britain as a state after American independence. The Qing dynasty for centuries barred Han to settle in manchirua. Nice logic to take the territory of a Sovereign ethnic group.

    I believe Taiwan was “part” of China (at least informally) for centuries. It officially became a part of China under the Manchus. Same with Tibet.

    You belief you can keep with. Just some centuries ago, the native Taiwanese were a majority in their own country. Now they are a minority. It is one ethnic group overwhelming another.

    “Colonization” (at least by one definition) is the attempt to enslave or eradicate native people’s right to their indigenous way of life and/or use native people as chattel to procure resources. The Chinese do not do that (as far as I understand it). But the Japanese and Western empires did.

    The Chinese did you guys did in Tibet and in Xinjiang. You are a imperialist people.

    As far as I understand, the Chinese do not attempt to eradicate local cultures and languages.

    Did the British eradicate local cultures and languages in India? No they did not. Indeed it is because of the British that Indians came to know about their most glorious past such as Emperor Ashoka and his reign.

    What’s fundamentally important is respect for native cultures and their capacity to preserve their identities.

    The British did that in India, they respected local cultures. So the British were not colonial.

    You’re probably a Zionist too

    This is the problem with brainwashed idiots like you, I am one of the most ardent opponent of Zionism on UNZ. Check out my comment history.

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  451. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    And how is this destruction of Culture?

    英属印度通过 1904 年古代古迹保护法
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Monuments_Preservation_Act_1904
    The Ancient Monuments Preservation Act, 1904 was passed in 18, March 1904 by British India during the times of Lord Curzon. it is expedient to provide for the preservation of ancient monuments, for the exercise of control over traffic in antiquities and over excavation in certain places, and for the protection and acquisition in certain cases of ancient monuments and of objects of archaeological, historical or artistic interest. Act preserves and restores ancient Indian monuments by Archaeological Survey of India.

    更多在这里

    Sanskrit College and University started by the British East India Company Government to preserve ancient Indian culture and history

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sanskrit_College_and_University
    Sanskrit College and University (erstwhile Sanskrit College) is a specialized state-government administered Liberal Arts University offering an undergraduate degree in Sanskrit language, Pali language, Linguistics and ancient Indian and world history.[1][2] 它是加尔各答大学的附属学院之一。 Founded on 1 January 1824, Sanskrit College, is one of the oldest educational institutions in the subcontinent.[3] It is a traditional college that specializes in the scholarship of Indian tradition, philosophy and religion. 它位于加尔各答(加尔各答)中部的大学街。 它靠近印度教学校、总统学院、加尔各答、加尔各答大学和印度咖啡馆,从而提高了它的中心地位。 它是在阿默斯特勋爵任总督期间根据 HT James Prinsep 和 Thomas Babington Macaulay 等人的推荐成立的。 The great Indian Hindu thinker from Bengal Iswarchandra Vidyasagr came from this college. It was recommended by Macaulay and Prinsep.

    Again how is this destruction of culture under colonialism?

  452. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    It would be great if all “distinct” cultures could have their own “country” if they so desired

    I agree with you on this however……

    but on a practical basis, that is probably not possible.

    Tibet and Xinjiang under Communist Chinese rule today are definitely practically possible as sovereign nations. Sikkim, Indian North East, Kashmir etc… under Indian rule today are definitely practical as Sovereign nations. Irian Jaya under Indonesia rule today is definitely practical as a sovereign nation, their brothers next door in Papua New Guniea have a sovereign nation. Bangladesh got independence out of Pakistan and is a practical sovereign nation today. 16 Socialist Soviet Republics got independence out of the Soviet Union as practical sovereign nations.
    Indeed the Soviets it its early period did more damage to native cultures than the European colonials in India or Indonesia. Pakistan was attempting to crush native Bengali culture in East Pakistan/Bangladesh in ways far more than the British Raj ever did.

  453. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    In some ways it is still the same, in some ways it has changed as I have described.

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  454. @Malla

    玛拉

    I smoked pot in Goa every day when I was there in my twenties and the drug scene was not so vicious. Kashmiri peddled hash out of their carpet stores. Quite openly, though it was technically against the law.

    There were no Russians and lots of Brits. And many Israelis. Methamphetamine and Ya-Ba and cocaine were unheard of. It was really more of a Harold and Kumar scene as stoned and drunk on Kingfisher whites dragged along lethargically.

    The prostitution scene was all Bengali hookers in those days who made the trip because they could charge Goras 12oo Rupees (In 99) . It seems unfair that Russian women should come and take their business, in fact.

    Nigerians were nowhere to be seen in those days.

    Hotels and clubs were all owned by locals.

  455. Che Guava 说:
    @Malla

    I am very pleased that you were to bother to to fhnd examplers and to lhsten and enjoy.

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  456. Anonymous[242]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    Qing had enormous power over Korea.

    You mean, Qing had enormous influence. There’s a difference. Korean elites deferred to Chinese advice. Both countries were essentially “hermits” in the 19th century. There aren’t a lot of other countries in that neighborhood.

    it is like the USA claiming Great Britain as a state after American independence.

    Really? Now, that’s pretty stupid too.

    No, it’s not like that at all. The Communists didn’t declare “independence” from the Manchus. They declared the founding of the modern Chinese state. By the 20th century, the Manchus were Chinese.

    Just some centuries ago, the native Taiwanese were a majority in their own country. Now they are a minority. It is one ethnic group overwhelming another.

    “Some” centuries ago? Majority/minority are not necessarily what matters. It’s not one ethnic group “overwhelming” another unless you’re interpreting events from a racial view. It’s the assimilation/integration of groups, peacefully and voluntarily. There’s nothing wrong with that.

    China has hundreds of ethnic groups. The so-called “Han” are not really homogenous.

    Did we see integration/assimilation in India between the Brits and Indians? Absolutely not. So that was race-based colonialism.

    The British did that in India, they respected local cultures. So the British were not colonial.

    The suggestion that the East India Company and the Brits came to India to spread democracy and good-will is laughable on its face. But then, you are a funny guy.

    https://qz.com/india/1053297/independence-day-what-good-did-the-british-do-for-india-during-the-raj/

    As this article suggests, the Brits were racist, elitist and natives were turned into 2nd class citizens and indentured laborers for the British Empire. What was “gloriously” built in India was done for the benefit (profit) of the Brits.

    In fact, Britain’s policy was not to unite but to divide and rule. Under the British, Tharoor shows that, the Hindu caste system became more rigid, and communal lines, particularly those between Hindus and Muslims, deepened. Nowhere was the application of that singular ethos clearer than when, on their way out, the colonialists partitioned the subcontinent into India and Pakistan.

    Inglorious Empire shows in full glory how the British systematically purged India’s riches, destroyed its institutions, and created divisions among its peoples.

    I am one of the most ardent opponent of Zionism on UNZ.

    But why? Haven’t the Zionists made the flowers bloom? Helped lift the lives of millions of Palestinians? Brought technology, jobs, higher standards of living and capital to the region? And most importantly, fed them until they’re fat, allowing them to procreate like desert bunnies?

    What’s wrong with you? Why do you deny the truth? Can’t you see the modern buildings and roads that crisscross the West Bank like beautiful tributaries?

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  457. tamo 说:
    @jeff stryker

    在白人白人妇女的陪伴下,您所要做的就是在大街上看着白人白人妇女对夫妇。 如果您对自己诚实,那么您将得出结论,这些WM-AW夫妇无论从身体上还是相对而言都是超乎寻常的。

    Most of these couples are made of BELOW AVERAGE LOOKING sissy white guys whom no decent looking white women would go out with and equally UNAPPEALING Asian women whom any decent looking Asian men would NOT date.

    Of course, there are some EXCEPTIONS and so once in awhile you will find good looking WM-AW couples. But they are FEW and FAR BETWEEN. So if I see a decent looking WM-AW couple, then I also see seven or eight UNATTRACTIVE WM-AW couples. On the other hand, I see more and more good looking white women going for black guys LOL !!!

    I bet you are one of these pitiful kinds of physically very UNATTRACTIVE stupid white losers who never have had any chance with decent looking white women or jobs in the States and ended up somewhere in Asia and hooked up with only available Asian women—the UGLY ones and you are sooooo proud of yourself. How PATHETIC !!! LOL !!! Well you are very welcome to all the HOMELY Asian women !!!

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  458. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    You mean, Qing had enormous influence. There’s a difference. Korean elites deferred to Chinese advice. Both countries were essentially “hermits” in the 19th century. There aren’t a lot of other countries in that neighborhood.

    No check out the videos I have shown. The Koreans were defacto a subject state.

    No, it’s not like that at all. The Communists didn’t declare “independence” from the Manchus. They declared the founding of the modern Chinese state. By the 20th century, the Manchus were Chinese.


    And by the 20th century the native Americans were Americans.

    The Communists didn’t declare “independence” from the Manchus. They declared the founding of the modern Chinese state.

    And they took a plebiscite among the Manchus and their descandents to check out if they wanted to be part of this new Chinese state.

    Some” centuries ago? Majority/minority are not necessarily what matters

    Ofcourse especially if ii is the Han absorbing territory of others. If it were Europeans it would have mattered. That is Han logic. LOL

    It’s the assimilation/integration of groups, peacefully and voluntarily

    Only because it were the glorious Han who did it./ LOL. You guys are the best imperialists in the World. Especially how you justify it. LOL You just overwhelmed a group with smaller population and their culture is not dominant anymore in their native lands. This is a classic case of colonialism.

    What was “gloriously” built in India was done for the benefit (profit) of the Brits.

    Check out my next post.

    the Hindu caste system became more rigid,

    Prove it to me. nobody could prove this to me till now. The caste system was rigid from the very beginning. Indeed it were the British who gave the lower castes the right to education for the first time in 2 millennia. It is surprising you believe the sweet lies of an upper caste Hindu like Tharoor whose ancestors benefited the most from this discriminatory institution which would have never ended had it not been for the British.

    and communal lines, particularly those between Hindus and Muslims, deepened.

    LOL. It was always bad even before the British came. Indeed it were the British who kept the subcontinent together. Once the Brits decided to leave the Muslims wanted out.
    But more in a future post.

    BTW Tharoor is a gas bag who has was shaking when faced a real historian.

    But why? Haven’t the Zionists made the flowers bloom? Helped lift the lives of millions of Palestinians?

    Are you mad, they are cruel to the Palestinians. And the flowers were blooming because of the British Empire who started giant commercial farms even before Israel was formed. They gave employment to scores of Arabs to the anger of the Jews. The Israelis just took credit for what the Brits started.

  459. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Now lets destroy your BS one by one.

    What was “gloriously” built in India was done for the benefit (profit) of the Brits.

    The American economist Milton Friedman on Colonialism

    A student poses a question to Milton Friedman in which he asks for an appraisal of just how exactly the riches that now exist in the so called “capitalist democracies” were obtained and how those countries became so rich so quick. Specifically he asks Friedman to account for the effect that having free labor derived from slavery allowed them to enrich themselves, and how the possession of colonies allowed rich countries to bleed wealth out of their colonial domains. Friedman responds by claiming it’s simply untrue that the wealth that arose in Western countries was due to slavery. Slavery was a disgrace and a blot on the United States’ record, but many rich Western nations did not have slavery. Britain and Japan did not have slaves when they developed and Hong Kong does not have slaves today. He goes onto claim that the facts are against the notion that the wealth was created due to the West exploiting its colonies. The reason people are quick to think so is that they have an ingrained predisposition to see view the world as a zero-sum game where if one man gains the other man looses. In reality a free market allows everyone to gain through mutually beneficial voluntary transactions. When the West colonized Africa they brought with them technology that greatly improved the condition of the people that lived there and actually made them better off. The wheel for example had not even been invented in Africa in the 19th century. As a result of Africa’s contacts with the West their condition improved greatly from what it previously was. 对于殖民者从他们的殖民地流失财富的指控,弗里德曼指出,与从直接或间接经济利益中获得的收益相比,母国维持其殖民地的成本总是更高。 在著名的印度案例中,确凿的研究表明,英国维护印度的成本要远远高于它从未拥有过的印度。 此外,尽管如此,许多西方国家从未拥有过殖民地,但却变得富有。

    http://www.friesian.com/british.htm
    我们看到了 Britain’s trade with the Third World was tiny and not of any consequence as compared to it’s trade with the USA and the rest of Europe from the above link “Another lesson to be read off the trade figures is that a relatively small fraction of British trade involved colonies that would later constitute the “Third World.” Indeed, the only trade surpluses in the table are with India, Africa, the West Indies, and the Far East, which might give some heart to Marxist claims that British colonies, especially India, were the outlet for Capitalist “excess production.” However, the trade surpluses are small, and overall British trade with India and the other colonies is hardly larger than with the much, much smaller populations of Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. No serious argument can be made that the likes of Australia and New Zealand, with their own autonomous governments and protective tariffs, were being “exploited” by Great Britain. Instead the largest British export market is simply with the rest of Europe. Indeed, Europe, the United States, Australia, Canada, etc. are the places where more people would have enough money to buy British goods.

  460. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    What was “gloriously” built in India was done for the benefit (profit) of the Brits.

    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/essay/economic-lessons-from-the-raj
    这是我们历史上的一个SAD悖论,即国家独立伴随着印度在英国统治下享受了半个世纪半的经济自由所带来的损失。 对于印第安人提出的关于殖民统治掠夺印度,使其工业化和耗尽其财富的民族主义神话,这可能令人感到意外。 最近的经济研究表明,殖民地印度领先于其他发展中国家,建立了贸易和工业基础,如果尼赫鲁维亚社会主义没有在1947年以后将其与全球市场割裂,该贸易基础和工业基础将使它羡慕东虎经济。

    让我们先来看看殖民掠夺的神话。 在征服初期,英国将领和普通士兵无疑获得了大量战利品,被视为合法的胜利战利品。 但与马拉塔和蒂普苏丹等印度同时代人或来自伊朗和阿富汗的其他外国入侵者相比,他们的掠夺是微不足道的。

    早在东印度公司接管孟加拉之前,马拉塔人在十年间对该省进行了六次掠夺袭击,造成数十万人死亡,并从其莫卧儿纳瓦布(Mughal Nawab)索取巨额资金,估计每年达 2.5 亿卢比。在今天的钱。 正是这些攻击和软弱无力的莫卧儿政府无力抵抗,导致由强大的 Jagat Seth 银行领导的印度教商界策划了英国对 1756-64 年的接管。

    德里不如孟加拉幸运,并遭受了伊朗纳迪尔沙阿的毁灭性入侵,其次是阿富汗艾哈迈德沙阿布达利。 根据当时的估计,Nadir Shah 于 1739 年洗劫德里,在一个月内掠夺了估计价值 70 亿卢比的战利品,这是 Sahib 公司在其在孟加拉最贪婪的岁月中榨取的任何东西,这对莫卧儿经济造成了打击从未恢复。

    Myth number two is that India declined from being an economic superpower under the Mughals to a de-industrialised colonial wasteland. True, Mughal India in 1700 accounted for 25 per cent of world Gross Domestic Product, a statistic often misquoted to prove economic success, except when one remembers that India also had 25 per cent of the world’s population. 麦迪逊计划编制的人均 GDP 统计数据更具启发性,被普遍认为是从古罗马时代到现在的全球繁荣最权威指南。

    The Maddison figures show that India’s per capita GDP was only half that of Britain’s in 1600, when the Mughal Empire was at its peak. Thereafter India witnessed steady economic decline, with its trade heavily dependent on textile exports increasingly unable to compete with cheaper European cloth. That’s because the Mughal economy offered neither incentives nor opportunity for labour-saving technological innovation. Eighty per cent of its territories were allocated to a rentier class of jagirdars, who creamed off any agricultural surplus for their own luxurious lifestyles. 由于他们的任期仅限于几年,他们没有动力将租金再投资于提高生产力。 资本成本高得令人望而却步,利率是英国平均水平 6% 的两倍,而在前殖民时期的孟加拉利率则高达 40%。

    这不是殖民辩护者的宣传,而是像马克思主义者伊尔凡·哈比卜 (Irfan Habib) 和民族主义者塔潘·雷乔杜里 (Tapan Raychaudhuri) 等知名印度历史学家的判断。 “不仅莫卧儿国家是它自己的掘墓人,”哈比卜总结道,“而且反对它的力量没有或不能建立新的秩序。”

    Both Habib and Western economists like Angus Maddison have agreed that the Mughal land revenue system was far more exploitative than anything later devised by the Company Sahib or the Raj. It’s estimated that the Mughal elite creamed off an average 15 per cent of national income for its own consumption, compared with a mere 5 per cent by the British. Under the rapacious warlords who succeeded the Mughals, land revenue demands soared as high as 50 per cent of production to fund their local wars.

    1750年的印度,在英国征服前夕,没有科学技术研究,没有机械,没有机械工具。 一旦更便宜的欧洲工业品占领了他们的市场,无论是谁统治,它的劳动密集型纺织品必然会遭受巨大损失。 这一经济挑战恰逢莫卧儿政权垮台后的一段激烈的区域战争,这场战争摧毁了次大陆大片地区的农业和制造业。 这种情况使欧洲统治的港口成为印度商业的唯一避风港,促使像 Marwaris 这样的商业社区从贝拿勒斯和马图拉等衰落的内陆城市迁移到加尔各答、马德拉斯和孟买。

    公司统治的前二十年无疑是其腐败员工无视公司自身垄断进行私人贸易损害本土竞争对手的时期。 但该公司本身对这种滥用行为没有兴趣,因为它依赖于可以出口到欧洲的高质量印度纺织品的稳定供应。 1773 年后,当英国议会直接监督公司的财务和行政管理时,这种私掠行为被坚决杜绝。

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  461. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    误解三是,我们的殖民统治者故意以印度制造的机械产品淹没印度,从而使印度工业化。 该公司当然与兰开夏郡的撒旦工厂没有任何联系,也没有出售其产品的兴趣。 它自己的贸易利益在于向欧洲出售印度商品,因此它游说以降低英国对它们的关税并提高保护性印度关税。 它没有这样做是在一定程度上衡量了欧洲工业革命在多大程度上不可避免地将经济浪潮转向了全球范围内的传统家庭手工业。

    即便如此,最近的研究表明,尽管欧洲工业竞争远非零和博弈,但它既创造了赢家,也创造了输家。 廉价的工厂生产的英国纱线可能已经打击了印度纺纱厂,但对织布工来说是福音,织布工现在可以采购便宜的产品并生产更具竞争力的最终产品。 尽管纺织品出口下降,但国内需求却有所增长,人均布匹消费量从5.8年的每年1750平方码增加到7.4年的1850平方码。手织机在生产纱丽中占有一席之地,但最终被机械制男式服装所取代。

    到1850年代,东印度公司进行的大规模修路计划使印度贸易了2,600公里的新金属化公路,当然包括大主干道

    整个殖民时期的大部分时间里,手织机的实际数量都没有被殖民竞争所淘汰,直到1947年与1750年的数量相同时才保持稳定。廉价的纱线进口也使织布工摆脱了与地区纺纱中心的联系并得以发展他们向港口靠拢,在这里与商铺建立了新的联系,播种了印度自己的婴儿纺织品工厂的种子。 印度的人口从170年的1750亿425千万增加到1947年的XNUMX亿XNUMX千XNUMX百万,这无疑是饥荒减少和公共卫生改善的指标。

    Myth number four is that imperial trade was a one-way flow, with cheap Indian raw materials extracted to supply British industry. The Raj created a Subcontinent-wide single market or customs union, which would have been the envy of the European Union today and which hugely expanded both internal and foreign trading opportunities for Indian merchants. By the 1850s, a massive road-building programme by the East India Company had given Indian trade 2,600 km of newly metalled highways, including, of course, the Grand Trunk Road. By 1913, India also had the world’s largest canal system and its fourth largest rail network.

    这项新的运输革命通过极大地加快了货物和价格信息的流动,改变了农业和商业。 与上一代的牛车相比,铁路在90世纪中叶降低了多达19%的货运成本。 根据1900年的货运量,铁路带来的社会储蓄高达1.2亿卢比,占国民收入的9%。 剑桥大学和麻省理工学院(MIT)的详细统计研究表明,铁路到达的地区平均实际收入增长了16%。

    印度的对外贸易也得益于英国对海洋的控制。 帝国海军的保护帮助像科贾斯这样的古吉拉特邦商人与东非和海湾地区进行贸易,建立了仍能生存的商业网络。 印度商人的另一个巨大获利机会是英国保护的中国在茶叶,棉花,靛蓝,黄麻以及臭名昭著的鸦片贸易。 从这种商业活动中获得的财富进入了新银行和股份公司,这些公司是在新近引入的西方公司法的基础上建立起来的,并为婴儿股票市场提供了服务。 后来被印度社会主义者指责的管理机构制度,使稀缺的管理技能可以集中到各个公司中,同时保护它们免受恶意收购。

    从1913年到1938年,印度制造业产值以每年5.6%的速度增长,远高于世界平均水平3.3%,而且这一增长率我们今天很欢迎

    到1850年代,印度内部的工业革命正在起飞,这得益于内部良性循环,包括更快的内部运输,增加的商业和农业生产力,迅速扩大的出口市场以及在长期缺乏风险资本的经济中急需的资本积累。 发展经济学家现在并没有指责殖民主义,反而同意印度长期的资本短缺主要是由于地理和气候因素造成的。

    If globalisation is defined as the capacity to buy the knowledge, goods and services one needs in global markets, the British Empire led the modern world in the first great wave of globalisation in the 19th century. India was at its heart and a major beneficiary of the new openness and cosmopolitanism. The Empire offered free movement of capital and labour and relatively free trade in goods. A Bombay mill-owner could set up with borrowed British capital and the latest machinery and skilled foremen from Manchester. India’s first cotton mills opened in 1851, preceding Japan by 20 years and China by 40. They were soon beating Manchester at its own game, supplying 76 per cent of India’s textile demand by 1945.

    毫不奇怪,蓬勃发展的商人社区在1857年的起义期间大力支持了公司,而港口重要货物的顺畅供应帮助扭转了叛乱分子的潮流。 伦敦经济学院的经济历史学家蒂桑卡·罗伊(Tirthankar Roy)表示:“印度商人认为拉杰(Raj)是为他们建立了股份的那种资本主义而战的力量,比莫卧儿(Mughal)封建军阀残余的领导者更好。另一边。' 凭借公共和私人捐赠,英属印度城市很快拥有一些世界上最好的市政服务以及世界级的教育和医疗机构。

    在整个殖民时期,印度并没有成为英国产品的倾销地,反而保持了对英国的贸易顺差,而且出口收入用于支付公共部门和私营部门从国外购买的服务。 没错,19世纪的英国国内和印度政府致力于经济自由放任和自由​​贸易,对保护本土工业几乎没有做任何贡献。 尽管如此,在1920年代的世界大萧条期间,印度的年轻工业如纺织和钢铁都获得了关税保护。 从1913年到1938年,印度制造业产值以每年5.6%的速度增长,远高于世界平均水平3.3%和我们今天欢迎的增长率。

    从1920年代开始,殖民政府就要求印度的铁路从Jamshedpur的Tata Steel购买全部铁路需求。 到1935年,印度生产了欧洲,北美和日本以外全球生产的全部钢铁的50%。 两次世界大战期间,塔塔钢铁(Tata Steel)等公司都从政府合同中获利颇丰; 这些利润被投入到糖和纸等新兴产业中。 在1850年至1940年之间,印度工厂的就业人数从接近零增加到XNUMX万,而工业人均产值增长了三分之一,几乎没有去工业化的痕迹。 印度在独立时的人均工业产值高于日本以外的亚洲其他任何地方,其一半以上的出口是制成品,而不是原材料。

    Myth number five is that British governments, companies and officers drained off India’s wealth through foreign remittances of their ill-gotten gains. The actual fact is that by 1913, colonial India had attracted an enormous and very welcome injection of £380 million (£23 billion in today’s money) as inward investment by British capital. In the same year, the so-called ‘Home Charges’, the money remitted back to Britain by government and private transfers, amounted to the comparatively tiny sum of £11 million. 经济学家认识到,所有外资都是以汇出外国汇款为代价的。 以英国在印度的投资的年收益来计算,房屋抵押贷款平均仅为3.4%,远低于当时英国在世界市场上的资本收益。 这些汇款每年平均仅占印度国民收入的1.5%,几乎不浪费资源。

    蒂森卡尔·罗伊(Tirthankar Roy)写道:“所谓的人才流失也是对技能的报酬,我们无法想象经济中缺乏与世界打交道的技能而无需购买技能”从国外。' 具有讽刺意味的是,第二次世界大战使印度得以扭转汇款的流动,帝国政府为向印度派驻海外部队支付了新德里丰厚的酬劳。 结果是,在独立时,印度储备银行持有超过1亿英镑(相当于今天的36亿英镑)的巨大英镑结余,即使有的话,也是一笔金色的握手。

  462. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    In fact, Britain’s policy was not to unite but to divide and rule.

    the colonialists partitioned the subcontinent into India and Pakistan.

    More BS and lies, to be destroyed by facts.
    Sly Tharoor is saying his normal BS. Before the British came, India was made of 600 warring states. THE BRITISH UNITED THE SUBCONTINENT.
    As far as India & pakistan, who not go to the Pakistanis asn ask their version fo the story.
    It was the Muslim League which wanted Pakistan, they felt that the Indian national Congress did not represent them. The Indian National Congress was dominated by upper caste Hindus.

    Dr. Ambedkar, leader of lower caste rights and the author of the Indian Constitution wrote

    “如果对她的双重人格有任何疑问,现在已经被穆斯林联盟要求将印度一分为二,巴基斯坦和印度斯坦的决议打消了,这样由于双重人格导致的这些冲突和动乱就被束缚了。一个人可能永远停止,因此彼此解脱,可能居住在适合各自文化(印度教和穆斯林)的不同家庭中。
    It is beyond question that Pakistan is a scheme which will have to be taken into account. The Muslims will insist upon the scheme being considered. The British will insist upon some kind of settlement being reached between the Hindus and the Muslims before they consent to any devolution of political power. There is no use blaming the British for insisting upon such a settlement as a condition precedent to the transfer of power. The British cannot consent to settle power upon an aggressive Hindu majority and make it its heir, leaving it to deal with the minorities at its sweet pleasure. That would not be ending imperialism. It would be creating another imperialism. The Hindus, therefore, cannot avoid coming to grips with Pakistan, much as they would like to do.

    如果必须考虑巴基斯坦的计划,并且无法逃脱,那么必须牢记某些要点。

    首先要注意的是,印度教徒和穆斯林必须自己决定这个问题。 他们不能求助于任何其他人。 当然,他们不能指望英国人替他们做决定。 从帝国的角度来看,印度是保持一个不可分割的整体,还是被分割成巴基斯坦和印度斯坦两部分,或者按照国会的计划分成二十个语言片段,对英国来说无关紧要,只要所有的他们满足于生活在帝国内。 英国不需要干涉,原因很简单,他们不受这种领土划分的影响。

    此外,如果印度教徒希望英国使用武力镇压巴基斯坦,那是不可能的。 首先,强制不是补救措施。 伯克很久以前在他关于美国殖民地胁迫的演讲中就指出了武力和抵抗是徒劳的。”

  463. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    partitioned the subcontinent into India and Pakistan.

    英国想要一个统一的印度,穆斯林联盟强迫他们分治
    来自英国议会记录 Hansard
    https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1947/jul/15/indian-independence-bill

    The President of the Board of Trade (Sir Stafford Cripps) said on the floor of the British parliament while discussing the INDIAN INDEPENDENCE BILL 15 July 1947

    “我们采取这一行动,不是因为我们无法控制的情况强加给我们,而是因为它符合我们认为公正和正确的一切。 的确,正如许多人在我们讨论印度未来的过程中所说的那样,我们宁愿通过一项法案,为整个印度建立一个统一的政府。 事实证明这是不可能的,而且这不是我们任何人,印度人或英国人的唯一过错,它没有被证明是可能的。 这是长期困难和紧张局势、失去机会和人为失败的必然结果,我们都曾经历过这些。 我们谁也不能指着别人说:“要不是你,一切都会好起来的。” 我完全意识到我在这些事情上所扮演的小角色,通过在特定时刻更大的智慧和理解,我本可以为一个统一的印度做出更好的贡献,但现在回顾过去没有任何好处。 该法案将使我们进入一个新的,让我们希望,一个更幸福的时代。
    我一直坚持并经常指出,在我们能够在绝对平等的基础上彼此相处之前,我们永远不应该与印度实现真正和有价值的合作。 这项条例草案将首次确立平等。 因此,它将为我们两国人民之间更深远和更重要的友谊奠定基础。 过去有人认为,我们可以在改变后的统治基础上使印度与我们保持紧密联系。 这是不可能的,并且相信它显示出对我们从该国传播到世界各地的民主原则固有的一切的深刻误解。 因此,我坚信,该法案将比该国曾经采取的任何其他行动在与印度建立真正的和持久的友谊方面做更多的工作。
    在该法案的辩论过程中,关于穆斯林和印度教社区的主题以及由于他们无法合作而导致的困难,我们已经说了很多,但我们不要忘记,除了印度还有其他重要因素这两个社区。 举两个例子,有锡克教徒和帕坦人。 在某些方面,这两个社区的处境比两个主要社区要困难得多。 除非印度完全巴尔干化,我认为没有人愿意,否则将两个主要社区通过该法案获得的完全和未经稀释的自治权利赋予每个社区是不切实际的。 但这一事实并没有减少我们的关心或焦虑,即锡克教徒和帕坦人应该因其种族和文化差异而得到最充分的认可。 229这两个人在他们最困难的情况下都表现出克制,我们希望并相信,我们现在通过这项法案向巴基斯坦和印度移交权力的那些人将尽最大努力承认这两个拥有为印度的生活做出了如此大的贡献。”

    RA Butler先生(Saffron Walden)在同届议会会议上说
    “人们总是说,影响英联邦的最显着的边界是美国和加拿大之间的边界,在那里人们看不到守卫,而那里却有着千里之外的友好接触。 Those of us who know some of the difficulties and sorrows of the partitions that are taking place, and in particular those in the Punjab, will realise that it is too much to hope that there will be no unfriendly gestures, or no unfortunate skirmishing. But let us at least hope that, thanks to the Dominion relationship that will prevail between these two new Dominions, frontiers may be set up and observed which, in time, may be regarded as just as friendly as the famous frontier to which I have drawn the attention of the House. 但我们必须记住,在旁遮普的分裂中,这是第二次分裂,除了印度本身的分裂之外,我们已经离开了锡克教社区,对他们来说是正确的。 和博学的绅士作参考,几乎完全划分为边疆的一边和另一边。
    希望负有最严重责任的边界委员会能够安排边界,以便神社和财产以及锡克教徒所珍视的其他事物尽可能地聚集起来,在一个地区,只要不对穆斯林地区与非穆斯林地区之间的适当划分施加任何暴力,就希望以同样的方式进行孟加拉的划分,以免东部地区的工业福利受到损害。偏见,并可能以令人满意的方式通过加尔各答港口出海。
    我忍不住感到,尽管目前印度的分治似乎非常有必要,但随着历史的发展,必须在印度两部分已分裂的地区之间建立一定的联系,并出现一个更大整体的概念。 我查看了我们在 1935 年法案的准备过程中必须研究的许多文件和文件,这些文件和文件与通信、铁路有关,特别是与在印度的一个地区向人民提供水有关的文件和文件。其他。 很多时候,它所服务的村庄的供水可能会被边境分割。 在金融问题上,在所有这些方面都需要某种联系,而如何发明这种联系目前超出了人类的智慧。 必须在指定日期之前立即作出安排。 有一种强烈的匆忙,任何对这个问题进行过科学研究的人都非常清楚,这些重大问题中有许多在目前和未来的一段时间内都没有解决。 因此,我相信总督与各国政府部长之间的关系可能是友好的,有待决定的事项可能会提交给昨天在我们审议过程中提到的仲裁庭。 我希望政府在另一个地方考虑​​是否不能更多地考虑仲裁庭,以及他们是否已就将其纳入法案做出最终决定。”

  464. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    British systematically purged India’s riches

    India’s economy was growing under British Rule. Two million new jobs were created thanks to industrialization.

    , destroyed its institutions,

    How? you mean the brutal caste system? The British created great institutions which have helped millions of Indians.

    and created divisions among its peoples.

    The divisions were already there. the British united the population into a united whole.

  465. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    The suggestion that the East India Company and the Brits came to India to spread democracy and good-will is laughable on its face.

    Why so? How can you explain this then

    Some law passed in British India

    孟加拉Sati法规,1829年
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Sati_Regulation,_1829
    《孟加拉国萨提条例》 [nb 1]或《孟加拉法典》第1829条第XVII条是英属印度在东印度公司统治下根据当时的总督威廉·本廷克勋爵颁布的法律, suttee或在其去世丈夫的葬礼上焚烧一名印度遗w的行为-在英属印度的所有司法管辖区均属非法,并受到起诉。

    1870年《防止女婴杀灭法》
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Infanticide_Prevention_Act,_1870
    1870年的《防止女婴杀害法》 [1]以及1870年的第八号法令都是英属印度通过的一项立法法,以防止谋杀女婴。 该法令第7条宣布,该法令最初仅适用于Oudh,西北省和旁遮普邦,但该法令授权总督酌情决定将法律扩展至英属拉杰的任何其他地区或省。[2]
    法律授权建立一支警察部队,以维持其出生,婚姻和死亡登记簿,以酌情进行该地区的普查,对该地区征收特别税,以支付所述警官的开支和娱乐活动。[2] 该法还规定,对任何违反或阻碍执行该法的警察的人,处以六个月的徒刑或三万卢比的罚款,或两者并处。[4] 该法令第6条允许警察从可能怀疑其会忽视或危害任何女童的任何人中扣押一名儿童,并强制向该人收取月费。[5]

    1856年《印度寡妇再婚法》
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Widows%27_Remarriage_Act,_1856
    1856年的《印度教寡妇再婚法》以及1856年的第XV号法令也于26年1856月1日颁布,根据东印度公司的规定,合法化了印度在所有辖区的印度教寡妇再婚。[XNUMX]
    为了保护所谓的家庭荣誉和家庭财产,上流社会的印度教社会长期以来不允许寡妇再婚,甚至禁止儿童和青少年再婚,所有这些寡妇都被期望过着节俭和禁忌的生活。[2] 为响应潘迪特·伊什瓦尔·钱德拉·维迪萨加(Pandit Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar)的竞选活动而颁布的1856年《印度教寡妇再婚法》为防止再婚的印度教寡妇[3]提供了法律保障,以防止某些形式的财产损失。寡妇放弃了她已故丈夫的遗产。[2]该行为特别针对的是印度裔儿童寡妇,其丈夫在结婚之前已去世。[4]

    1891年同意年龄法
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Consent_Act,_1891
    1891年的《同意年龄法》,也是1891年的第19号法,是1891年1月1日在英属印度颁布的一项立法,将所有管辖区中已婚或未婚的所有女孩的性交同意年龄从375岁提高到1882岁[2] [nb 9]该法案是对《印度刑法》和《刑事诉讼法》第1891条(“强奸案”)的修正,[nb 2]和2年3月3日,安德鲁·斯科布尔爵士在印度加尔各答州总督立法会议上通过了一项法案。[1880] 会议当天进行了辩论,并由安理会成员罗梅什·钱德·密特爵士(来自孟加拉国)反对,理由是它干扰了正统的印度教法典,但得到了理事会成员Rao Bahadur Krishnaji Lakshman Nulkar(来自孟买)和伊斯兰会议主席的支持。 [35] [1889] [nb 4]时,童子党Rukhmabai在孟买高级法院审理的1891年案件重新讨论了该法律,十一人去世岁的孟加拉女孩Phulomnee由于其XNUMX岁的丈夫在XNUMX年的强迫性交而被英国人干预。[XNUMX] 该法案于XNUMX年获得通过。它得到了印度改革者如Behramji Malabari和妇女社会组织的支持。 从来没有认真执行过该法律,有人认为该法律的真正效果是重申了印度教父制对国内问题作为民族主义事业的控制权。

    1843年《印度奴役法案》
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Slavery_Act,_1843
    1843年的《印度奴役法案》(也是1843年的第五法案)是英属印度在东印度公司统治下通过的一项法案,该法案禁止与奴隶制有关的许多经济交易。 禁止买卖任何人为奴隶,买卖买卖奴隶的任何人都将受到《印度刑法典》的制裁,违者将受到严厉的惩罚

    禁止童婚法
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Marriage_Restraint_ActChild
    1929年28月1929日在印度英属印度立法机关通过的14年《婚姻约束法》将女孩的结婚年龄定为18岁,男孩的结婚年龄定为18岁,后来又将女孩的结婚年龄改为21岁,将男孩的年龄改为1岁。 在其发起人哈比拉·萨达(Harbilas Sarda)之后,它通常被称为《萨达法》。 它在六个月后的1930年1月2日生效,不仅适用于印度教徒,还适用于整个英属印度。[3] [4] [XNUMX] 这是印度社会改革运动的结果。 立法由英属印度政府通过。[XNUMX]

    1928年《印度教继承法(去除残障)》 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_Inheritance_(Removal_of_Disabilities)_Act,_1928
    颁布了1928年的《印度教继承法(废除残障)》,废除了某些继承人类别的继承权,并消除了对其继承财产的能力的某些疑问。 该法规定,除非法律另有规定,否则患病,畸形,肢体或智障的人不得丧失其拥有或分享共同财产的权利。

    1900年旁遮普省土地异化法
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjab_Land_Alienation_Act,_1900
    英国对印度统治的出现导致了一种趋势,即土地所有权越来越集中在印度裔人口中的城市放债人和其他商业社区的手中。 他们被分配了以前由贫穷农民持有的财产,这些贫穷农民卖掉或抵押了短期收益,这是由于改良的农业方法,灌溉和通讯导致土地价值增加而产生的。 这种转移是可以依法强制执行的,但在英国人眼中,这有可能损害其殖民地行政管理权,因为它们最终可能导致农村农民人口的失落。 英国法律有效地支持了一类人(新主人)的成长,这可能不利于其自身目标。 此外,历史学家肯尼斯·琼斯(Kenneth Jones)说,这种转移与英国的看法背道而驰:“这一发展不仅威胁了旁遮普邦的稳定与和平,而且还冲击了英国低等农民的仁慈和家长式保护者的自我形象”。 。

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  466. Anonymous[645]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    The Koreans were defacto a subject state.

    What does SUBJECT STATE mean? “Subject” state based on established Confucian norms of foreign relations? In that sense, yes. Joseon Korea was “deferential” to (big brother) China. (At least in theory)

    But “subject” state as a colony, tributary (in the Western sense) or state stripped of sovereignty against its will — absolutely not. China did not interfere in Korea’s domestic affairs. Korea was left to itself. The relationship was often “ceremonial”.

    Is a 30yr old grown man “subject” to his father or “independent” of his father? Based on culture and norms, there are elements of both at play, the 2 not necessarily being exclusive of the other. One can be independent and “subject” (willingly) to one’s father. And often, that “deference” can be ceremonial or “appearance” in nature.

    As an Indian, do you have any comprehension of this? Or it’s all alien to you?

    And by the 20th century the native Americans were Americans.

    Yes, you ding-dong. No one is accusing “Americans” of “colonizing” Native Americans in the 20th century. That happened a long time ago.

    And they took a plebiscite among the Manchus and their descandents to check out if they wanted to be part of this new Chinese state.

    Are you a clown? By the 1900s, the Manchurians were “Chinese”.

    Ofcourse especially if ii is the Han absorbing territory of others. If it were Europeans it would have mattered. That is Han logic. LOL

    It doesn’t matter if it is VOLUNTARY. And when did Europeans do that?

    Europeans sired mongrels in the Americas. They didn’t voluntarily integrate with native Americans.

    You just overwhelmed a group with smaller population and their culture is not dominant anymore in their native lands. This is a classic case of colonialism.

    It’s not colonialism if EVERYONE is treated equally and assimilation is voluntary. When have Europeans treated EVERYONE equally in the Americans, Indias or other places they colonized?

    Are you mad, they are cruel to the Palestinians. And the flowers were blooming because of the British Empire who started giant commercial farms even before Israel was formed. They gave employment to scores of Arabs to the anger of the Jews. The Israelis just took credit for what the Brits started.

    I see. You’re just an Anglophile. If it were the Brits stealing Palestinian land, that would be wonderful.

    To the charge that colonizers bleed wealth from their colonies, Friedman notes that it has always cost the mother country more to maintain its colonies then what was ever received in direct or indirect economic benefit.

    So… the Brits established colonies around the world despite a net cost to itself?

    You don’t realize how that makes ZERO SENSE? It’s like Bezos crying that Amazon is costing him a ton of money. He’s losing money left and right.

    If its colonies did not aid the Brits in attaining/expanding wealth, then how did they achieve their great wealth and power?

    Why so? How can you explain this then

    So it is your contention that the East India Company and the Brits came to India to spread democracy and in good-will towards the Indian people? They were, first and foremost, concerned for the welfare of the Indian people, before profit, wealth and power?

    You are a very silly man.

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  467. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    But “subject” state as a colony, tributary (in the Western sense) or state stripped of sovereignty against its will — absolutely not. China did not interfere in Korea’s domestic affairs. Korea was left to itself. The relationship was often “ceremonial”.

    You are thickhead are you not. Check out post 397. that was all in theory but in practice it was very different.

    It’s not colonialism if EVERYONE is treated equally and assimilation is voluntary. When have Europeans treated EVERYONE equally in the Americans, Indias or other places they colonized?

    It is classic case of colonialism. Taiwanese native culture and ancestry is not dominant in taiwan and a foreign culture, Han is now dominant. That is colonialism.

    I see. You’re just an Anglophile. If it were the Brits stealing Palestinian land, that would be wonderful.

    You assume too much. And then look like an idiot.

    So… the Brits established colonies around the world despite a net cost to itself?

    You don’t realize how that makes ZERO SENSE? I

    Why? India spends more money on kashmir and makes from it. Why does the Indian government not give independence to kashmir? Why China not give independence to Tibet?

    You are a very silly man.

    All you makes is judgemental statements. You are cunning slimeball of a man. You have not explained why the British passed those laws. What did the British profit from those laws?

  468. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    If its colonies did not aid the Brits in attaining/expanding wealth, then how did they achieve their great wealth and power?

    Errr… something called the Industrial revolution.
    And you think the Brits were barbarians before their Empire?

    If you do not know who Ibn Khaldun was
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun

    Ibn Khaldun was an Arab historiographer and historian. He is claimed as a forerunner of the modern disciplines of sociology and demography.
    He is best known for his book, the Muqaddimah or Prolegomena (“Introduction”). The book influenced 17th-century Ottoman historians like Kâtip Çelebi, Ahmed Cevdet Pasha and Mustafa Naima who used the theories in the book to analyze the growth and decline of the Ottoman Empire. 19th-century European scholars also acknowledged the significance of the book and considered Ibn Khaldun as one of the greatest philosophers of the Middle Ages.

    Check out the book at

    https://archive.org/details/THEMUQADDIMAHVOLUME1

    At page 158-159 this Great Arab scholar writes

    There, a portion of the island of England is situated. It is a large, far-flung island which contains a number of cities and is the seat of a magnificent realm.

    This was written in the 12th century, a whole 400 years before the East India Company.

    Also the Great Arab scholar Ibn Jabyr writes during the Crusader States that Muslims live a far better life under European rulers than under their own Muslim Lords.

  469. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    OK explain to me what benefit did the British Government get by destroying the Pindaris.

    Pindaris were looting the peasants of India. No power in India whether Islamic, Sikh or Hindu could end or were interested in putting an end to the dacoit Pindaris who enjoyed looting poor Indian peasants even Hindu peasants, only the British did that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pindari

    [更多]

    The Pindaris were loosely organized under self-chosen leaders, and each group was usually attached to one or other of the Maratha leaders. Their main characteristic was that they received no pay, but rather purchased the privilege of plundering on their own account.
    They were accustomed to assemble every year at the beginning of November, and sally forth into British occupied territory in search of plunder. In one such raid upon the Masulipatam coast they plundered 339 villages, killing or wounding 682 persons, torturing 3600 and carrying off property worth a quarter of a million pounds. In 1808-09 they plundered Gujarat, and in 1812 Mirzapur. In 1814 they were reckoned at 25,000 to 30,000 horsemen.
    Lord Hastings, with the approval of the Court of Directors of the East India Company, decided to exterminate and eliminate the Pindaris. The approval was received in September 1816 and Hastings put into place a plan by the end of 1817. To begin with, he entered into an understanding with several other powers active in India, and then commenced precise military planning and preparations to encircle and eliminate all the Pindaris. This organized campaign, known as the Pindari War, became the Third Anglo-Maratha War.
    This was an elaborate military plan: to attack the Pindari forces from the north and east from Bengal, from the west from Gujarat, and from the south from the Deccan. Hastings committed 120,000 men and 300 artillery pieces to the command created and entrusted with the task to eliminate the Pindaris. The command consisted of the Northern Force, of 4 divisions under his personal command; the Deccan Force of five divisions under the command of Thomas Hislop with Sir John Malcolm as his principal lieutenant. The forces moved swiftly, and by January 1818, the Pindaris were expelled from the regions of the Malwa and the Chamba.
    The Pindaris were surrounded on all sides by the great army, which converged upon them from Bengal, the Deccan and Gujarat under the supreme command of Lord Hastings in person. Sindhia was overawed and forced to sign the treaty of Gwalior, consenting to aid in the extirpation of the Pindaris, whom he had hitherto protected. Since the Pindaris gave a portion of their loot to Maratha leaders, the Peshwa at Pune, the Bhonsle raja at Nagpur and the army of the infant Holkar of Indore each took up arms, but were separately defeated. The Pindaris themselves offered little opposition. The three strongest Pindari contingents were under the command of three leaders namely Karim Khan Pindari; Chitu Pindari and Wasil Muhammad Pindari.
    Karim Khan Pindari had tried to convince other Pindari leaders to join him in a plan for defense but disagreements among the Pindari leaders, particularly with Chitu Pindari, destroyed any hope of a concerted effort even in the face of the impending war with the British. With the arrival of the British, Karim Khan and Wasil Muhammad headed for Gwalior. Chitu Pindari joined Holkar’s forces in the meantime. Several engagements with the retreating Pindaris took place and despite defeating them, the British were unable to strike a decisive blow. All Pindari parties eventually returned south near their bases, with the British in close pursuit. During the last part of December, at the invitation of Jaswant Rao Bhau, Karim Khan Pindari had ridden north from Holkar’s camp, while Chitu Pindari had come west from Kota into the area around Jawar and Bayana. British forces surrounded them on all sides. Both Chitu and Karim Khan began moving south toward their bases at the Narmada. Chitu had evaded British troops and proceeded to the ghats. Chitu fled to Bhopal, where he tried to reach an agreement with the British through the Nawab. The British rejected his plans as too extravagant. As for Karim Khan Pindari, he too was hotly pursued. In February 1819 most of the Pindari leaders surrendered to the British authorities. Namdar Khan one such leader gave himself up on 3 February 1819, and Karim Khan Pindari surrendered to John Malcolm on 15 February 1819. Others gradually followed their example. Only Chitu Pindari had managed to elude capture. But eventually he fled to the jungle when deserted by his followers. Near the end of February 1819 his body was brought to the British; he had been attacked and killed by a tiger.

  470. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    And as far as colonialism in Africa, let a fellow Chinese explain everything to you in Chinese

    你被欧洲人殖民,但你从他们身上什么也没学到——中国人到刚果人
    The Chinese man accepts that Congo once had more advanced technology than even China thanks to the Belgians.

  471. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    then how did they achieve their great wealth and power?

    If colonialism is what made Europe powerful explain how could Germany with a much small Empire became so powerful during WW1 so as to be seen as a threat by the British and the French? How could a Finland which had no colonies became so rich? How is it that the Spanish and the Portuguese who had such large empires were poorer countries of Europe only some decades back?
    Colonies played a very small part in the wealth of European countries. European countries became rich thanks to the Industrial revolution and having a highly productive workforce. Even of European countries would not have colonies they would have become rich and powerful anyways.

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  472. Anonymous[645]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    Errr… something called the Industrial revolution.
    And you think the Brits were barbarians before their Empire?

    Colonies were an extension of industrialization in order to extract raw materials.

    The Chinese man accepts that Congo once had more advanced technology than even China thanks to the Belgians.

    The man isn’t morally defending colonialism. The man is pointing out lessons that should have been learned from it, even if colonialism on the whole is immoral.

    If colonialism is what made Europe powerful explain how could Germany with a much small Empire became so powerful during WW1 so as to be seen as a threat by the British and the French?

    Colonies are nodes in the supply chain necessary to feed industry.

    Germany was able to become wealthy because it did other things well and tapped into the supply chain maintained by others.

    How is it that the Spanish and the Portuguese who had such large empires were poorer countries of Europe only some decades back?

    Spain and Portugal grew rich initially raping the resources of the Americas. But because it failed to industrialized and use its capital wealth to improve itself, it eventually fell behind.

    Colonies played a very small part in the wealth of European countries. European countries became rich thanks to the Industrial revolution and having a highly productive workforce.

    You’ve got lentils for brains. Access to cheap resources makes the other things possible. But cheap resources by itself are just cheap resources.

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  473. @tamo

    塔莫

    And I would lay odds you are a 20 year old Asian incel living at home with your mother who has never had a relationship or a full-time job.

    You couldn’t know. You’ve never traveled.

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    , @tamo
  474. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Colonies were an extension of industrialization in order to extract raw materials.

    False, typical marxist nonsense. Educate yourself by reading post 477. the trade of colonial mother countries with their colonies was tiny compared to their trade with each other. In other words their colonies were economically inconsequential. Or I will put it up again.

    http://www.friesian.com/british.htm
    we see that Britain’s trade with the Third World was tiny and not of any consequence as compared to it’s trade with the USA and the rest of Europe from the above link “Another lesson to be read off the trade figures is that a relatively small fraction of British trade involved colonies that would later constitute the “Third World.” Indeed, the only trade surpluses in the table are with India, Africa, the West Indies, and the Far East, which might give some heart to Marxist claims that British colonies, especially India, were the outlet for Capitalist “excess production.” However, the trade surpluses are small, and overall British trade with India and the other colonies is hardly larger than with the much, much smaller populations of Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. No serious argument can be made that the likes of Australia and New Zealand, with their own autonomous governments and protective tariffs, were being “exploited” by Great Britain. Instead the largest British export market is simply with the rest of Europe. Indeed, Europe, the United States, Australia, Canada, etc. are the places where more people would have enough money to buy British goods.

    The man isn’t morally defending colonialism. The man is pointing out lessons that should have been learned from it, even if colonialism on the whole is immoral.
    And I claimed he was apeaking about the morality of colonialism. But the fact still stands that had Congo been under Belgian rule it would have run better to the benefits of the Congolese. The difference in per capita income in between African colonies and European colonial mother countries ACTUALLY INCREASED after decolonization.

    Colonies are nodes in the supply chain necessary to feed industry.

    Germany was able to become wealthy because it did other things well and tapped into the supply chain maintained by others.

    You did not need colonies for that. Independent countries can be nodes in the supply chain.

    Germany was able to become wealthy because it did other things well

    Which the British and the French and the Dutch are incapable of doing. Interesting.

    tapped into the supply chain maintained by others.

    And after colonialism ended these supply chains dissipated? There are no supply chains post colonialism? And countries like India or Indonesia do not tap into supply chains created by others?

    Spain and Portugal grew rich initially raping the resources of the Americas.

    That is true but before their empires they were poor barbarians? Why did the Arabs waste forces to conquer Iberia if they were poor barbarians?

    failed to industrialized and use its capital wealth to improve itself, it eventually fell behind.

    Bingo!! Exactly! Industrialization played a big part in making nations rich over colonies. You must remember that Portugal had her Empire till the 1970s in Africa but was still behind countries like Finland in standard of living. Colonies were of very little consequence.

    even if colonialism on the whole is immoral.

    European colonisation is not much different from Empire building which has been taking place from the beginning of time. Indeed morally SOME European Empires were far better than many non European Empires and many Communist empires. An Indian in British India had far more freedoms than a person in the Asian Ottoman Empire. An Indian in British India in 1920 had far more freedom to do what he wanted and security to life than a Russian in the Jewish controlled Soviet Union in the 1920s.
    Without European Empires, slavery would not have been banned throughout Africa. Without European Empires, lower caste Indians would never had the chance for education and an improvement of their rights in society. Without European Empires, giant Hindus and Muslim armies would be fighting each other in India for centuries to come.

    Check out the video at post 366 on this page.

    在33:20, the Dahomey were warlike, wars every year. Enemies were beheaded. Conquest and power and being greedy of power was considered a good thing for the King to have in West African Dahomey culture.
    People have been conquering each other before European expansions in 1600 and would have kept on conquering each other even if those colonial Empires had never formed. There is nothing more immoral about European colonial Empires than the Empires built by non Europeans.

    You’ve got lentils for brains. Access to cheap resources makes the other things possible.

    You are a brainwashed idiot. After decolonization, industrialized countries suddenly lost access to raw materials and shriveled away to dust?? Indeed the per capita incomes of many European colonial mother countries boomed after decolonization. Check out the stats.

    Also explain why countries like Iran or Ethiopia who never had experienced any serious colonization still poorer than Europe? Iran was a rich nation, Empire. Indeed the Mughal Emperors competed with the Persians in the splendor of their capitals. Ethiopia too was a rich kingdom. Thailand never faced outright colonisation but is still poorer then European countries.
    Malaysia got independence from British Empire after India (1947) but today has a per capita income far more than India.

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  475. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    Sorry correction

    The man isn’t morally defending colonialism. The man is pointing out lessons that should have been learned from it, even if colonialism on the whole is immoral.

    And I claimed he was speaking about the morality of colonialism??

  476. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Bruce Gilley, a Political Science PhD and Associate Professor at Portland State University has recently published a paper named ‘The case for colonialism ‘ in the THIRD WORLD QUARTERLY.

    顺便说一句,你可以在这里获得文章

    https://archive.org/details/Gilley

    布鲁斯·吉利(Bruce Gilley)的文章中的一些摘要

    Perhaps the most egregious violation of epistemic virtues is internal coherence (or non-contradiction). Eminent scholars repeatedly make the logically contradictory claim that colonialism was both too disruptive and not disruptive enough, whether with regard to boundaries, governing institutions, economic systems or social structures, as evidenced in the short space of just two pages by Young. Africanists in particular applaud the work both of Herbst, who argued that colonialism did too little state-making, and Young, who earlier argued that it did too much. New territorial boundaries are criticised for forcing social integration while old ones are criticised for reinforcing tribalism, a contradiction noted by Lefebvre. Marxist scholars found colonialism at fault when it did not invest in public health and infrastructure (showing a callous disregard for labour) and when it did (in order to exploit it). Colonialism is credited with near-magical powers to sweep away everything good in its path (like tribal chiefs or ethnic identity) and with equally magical powers to make permanent everything bad in its path (like tribal chiefs or ethnic identity).

    Finally, there is the simple epistemic virtue of falsification. This is most pointed in the treatment of what was undoubtedly a benefit of colonialism: the abolition of slave-trading. Anti-colonial critics squirm and fidget over this issue because it puts the greatest strain on their ‘colonialism bad’ perspective. The result is a constant stream of revisionism: it did not happen fast enough; there were mixed motives; not all colonial officials supported it; former slaves remained poor and former slave owners remained rich; it should never have existed in the first place.

    Of course, not all research falls afoul of the basic prescriptions above. Research that is careful in conceptualising and measuring controls, that establishes a feasible counterfactual, that includes multiple dimensions of costs and benefits weighted in some justified way, and that adheres to basic epistemic virtues often finds that at least some if not many or most episodes of Western colonialism were a net benefit, as the literature review by Juan and Pierskalla shows. Such works have found evidence for significant social, economic and political gains under colonialism: expanded education, improved public health, the abolition of slavery, widened employment opportunities, improved administration, the creation of basic infrastructure, female rights, enfranchisement of untouchable or historically excluded communities, fair taxation, access to capital, the generation of historical and cultural knowledge, and national identify formation, to mention just a few dimensions.

    这导致了反殖民批评的第二次失败。 鉴于客观成本和收益随时间和地点的不同而变化,另一种方法只是顺应受影响者的判断。 主观合法性方法询问受到殖民主义统治的人们是否通过其信仰和行为将其视为合法。 正如赫克特(Hechter)所表明的那样,外来统治在世界历史上通常是合法的,因为它提供了比土著替代更好的治理。

    Anti-colonial critics simply assert that colonialism was, in Hopkins’s words, ‘a foreign imposition lacking popular legitimacy’. Yet until very late, European colonialism appears to have been highly legitimate and for good reasons. Millions of people moved closer to areas of more intensive colonial rule, sent their children to colonial schools and hospitals, went beyond the call of duty in positions in colonial governments, reported crimes to colonial police, migrated from non-colonised to colonised areas, fought for colonial armies and participated in colonial political processes – all relatively voluntary acts. Indeed, the rapid spread and persistence of Western colonialism with very little force relative to the populations and areas concerned is prima facie evidence of its acceptance by subject populations compared to the feasible alternatives. The ‘preservers’, ‘facilitators’and ‘collaborators’ of colonialism, as Abernethy shows, far outnumbered the’resisters’at least until very late:‘lmperial expansion was frequently the result not just of European push but also of indigenous pull’.

  477. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Continued from the earlier post

    布鲁斯·吉利(Bruce Gilley)的文章中的更多内容

    第二次世界大战期间黄金海岸州长艾伦·伯恩斯爵士(Sir Alan Burns)指出,如果黄金海岸人民(现任加纳国家)希望将我们推入大海,没有什么可以阻止他们的。 但这是当时人民成千上万的时候,不是空虚的对忠诚的抗议,而是有人在军队中服役……并向战争基金和战争慈善机构提供了慷慨的礼物。 对于厌倦英国统治的人们来说,这是一种奇怪的举动。

    In most colonial areas, subject peoples either faced grave security threats from rival groups or they saw the benefits of being governed by a modernised and liberal state. Patrice Lumumba, who became an anti-colonial agitator only very late, praised Belgian colonial rule in his autobiography of 1 962 for’restoring our human dignity and turning us into free, happy, vigorous, and civilized men’. Chinua Achebe’s many pro-colonial statements, meanwhile, have been virtually airbrushed from memory by anti-colonial ideology. The few scholars who take note of such evidence typically dismiss it as a form of false consciousness.

    The failure of anti-colonial critique to come to terms with the objective benefits and subjective legitimacy of colonialism points to a third and deeper failure: it was never intended to be ‘true’ in the sense of being a scientific claim justified through shared standards of inquiry that was liable to falsification. The origins of anti-colonial thought were political and ideological. The purpose was not historical accuracy but contemporaneous advocacy. Today, activists associate ‘decolonisation’ (or ‘postcolonialism’) with all manner of radical social transformation, which unintentionally ties historic conclusions to present-day endeavours. Unmoored from historical fact, postcolonialism became what Williams called a metropolitan flaneur culture of attitude and performance whose recent achievements include an inquiry into the glories of sado-masochism among Third World women and a burgeoning literature on the horrors of colonialism under countries that never had colonies.

    This third failure of anti-colonial critique is perhaps most damaging. It is not just an obstacle to historical truth, which itself is a grave disservice. Even as a means of contemporary advocacy, it is self-wounding.

  478. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    The man isn’t morally defending colonialism. The man is pointing out lessons that should have been learned from it, even if colonialism on the whole is immoral.

    And morality aside, he is admitting that the Belgians gave the Congolese some of the most advanced technology of their time which was even absent in China at that time. He says “You neglected the Things the others had left you”. So I hope we should atleast not blame the Belgians for the problems in Congo today. That is clear,

    Maybe you should go through some of the comments of that video by the Congolese themselves.

    罗德里克·巴伦达写道
    8个月前(编辑)
    “I have already given upon Africa, I am sick and tired our lack of self-respect. The Chinese man who commented about what is going on in the Democratic Republic of Congo is right. This is what infuriates me, how come a country, which was once Africa’s second industrialized country after South Africa falls into pieces? How come a country that once had a First World infrastructure now becomes a hellhole? It is because we chose to destroy everything and I am fed up. 我只是想努力工作并创造自己的生活–我不会在那些想变得平庸的人身上浪费时间。 这段视频让我流下了眼泪。”

    Yes Sir, you heard him right. Belgian ruled Congo was the second most industrialized nation in Africa after Apartheid South Africa.

  479. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    However I was reading somewhere that the children of White man- East Asian woman pairings tend to end up losers. The boys turn incels and the girls into sluts. However children of East Asian men and White women pairings tend to turn out very successful. I do not remember where I had read it.

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  480. tamo 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Hey little loser, you are describing yourself pretty well when you were in your 20s, lol !!! I think you are in your 40s. I bet the only way you get a piece is paying for some unfortunate whore.

    You better go back to your poor mom’s trailer in Detroit and kiss her foot for giving you a little nasty corner room next to the toilet to live in, lol !!!

    I guarantee you that I’m older than you , little boy. I have been around since you were in diapers.

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  481. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Colonies were an extension of industrialization in order to extract raw materials.

    Why don’t you actually read? WHY DO I HAVE TO REPOST EVERYTHING AGAIN. I AM GETTING TIRED.
    来自 478 号帖子

    Far from being wiped out by colonial competition, actual numbers in the handloom sector remained stable throughout most of the colonial period, ending with the same number in 1947 as in 1750. Cheap yarn imports also freed weavers from being tied to regional spinning centres and enabled them to move closer to the ports, where they forged new links with mercantile houses, sowing the seeds of India’s own infant textile factories. “

    ……剪下……。

    从1913年到1938年,印度制造业产值以每年5.6%的速度增长,远高于世界平均水平3.3%,而且这一增长率我们今天很欢迎

    到1850年代,印度内部的工业革命正在起飞,这得益于内部良性循环,包括更快的内部运输,增加的商业和农业生产力,迅速扩大的出口市场以及在长期缺乏风险资本的经济中急需的资本积累。 发展经济学家现在并没有指责殖民主义,反而同意印度长期的资本短缺主要是由于地理和气候因素造成的。

    如果将全球化定义为购买全球市场所需的知识,商品和服务的能力,则大英帝国在19世纪第一次全球化浪潮中引领了现代世界。 印度是新开放和世界主义的核心和主要受益者。 帝国提供了资本和劳动力的自由流动以及相对自由的货物贸易。 孟买工厂的老板可以利用借来的英国资本以及曼彻斯特的最新机械和熟练工头来组建。 印度最早的棉纺厂于1851年开业,在日本之前是20年,在中国之前是40。它们很快就击败了曼彻斯特,到76年满足了印度纺织品需求的1945%。

    ……剪断……

    Far from becoming a dumping ground for British products, India maintained a trade surplus with Britain throughout the colonial period, and export earnings paid for the services bought in from abroad by both public and private sectors. True, 19th century British governments at home and in India were committed to economic laissez faire and free trade and did little to protect indigenous industries. Nevertheless, young Indian industries like textiles and steel were given tariff protection during the world depression in the 1920s. From 1913 to 1938, Indian manufacturing output grew at an annual 5.6 per cent, well above the world average of 3.3 per cent and a growth rate we would welcome today.

    从1920年代开始,殖民政府就要求印度的铁路从Jamshedpur的Tata Steel购买全部铁路需求。 到1935年,印度生产了欧洲,北美和日本以外全球生产的全部钢铁的50%。 两次世界大战期间,塔塔钢铁(Tata Steel)等公司都从政府合同中获利颇丰; 这些利润被投入到糖和纸等新兴产业中。 在1850年至1940年之间,印度工厂的就业人数从接近零增加到XNUMX万,而工业人均产值增长了三分之一,几乎没有去工业化的痕迹。 印度在独立时的人均工业产值高于日本以外的亚洲其他任何地方,其一半以上的出口是制成品,而不是原材料。

    I CANNOT WASTE TIME REPOSTING EVERYTHING.
    The Marxist theory that Western countries looted colonies of raw material is alie. It was created by Marxist theorists to explain why Capitalist economies in the West did not Communist. That idiot gassbag karl marx stated that capitalism would eventually give way to Communism as Capitalism would collapse because it was inherently unstable. But this did not happen. As usual karl marx was proven wrong. It were not the high industrialized nations of Britain, France, Belgium, Germany or Japan that went Communist but Russia and China. That is even though there were active Communist parties in Britain/Germany/Japan. To explain the failure of the gasbag Marx, they came up with this stupid theory of Capitalist countries were using the colonies to dump their excess production. This theory was not based on any facts but was a band aid to explain Marx’s failure (and his theories failed a lot).

    英国统治下的印度经济历史远比我们想象的要复杂得多
    http://www.livemint.com/Sundayapp/L0EQO6nzQo78NvpNoAO9xM/The-economic-legacy-of-the-British-Raj.html
    苏米特·米什拉
    首次发布:15 年 2015 月 11 日星期六。IST 30 XNUMX PM
    In a now famous speech at Oxford University , former Union minister Shashi Tharoor made a scathing attack on the former British empire. Tharoor eloquently argued that the British Raj had caused untold suffering to India and the Indian economy, and asked the British for reparations. While Tharoor deservedly received praise for his wit and eloquence, the narrative of exploitation that he spun is at best incomplete, and misleading at worst. Recent research by economic historians suggests that the British Raj was not an unmitigated disaster for India, as it was thought to be by earlier historians and economists. While colonial rule in India had harmful aspects, such as the low provision of public goods, it also helped galvanize Indian industry, making the country a vital part of global supply chains. For quite a long time, the dominant view about the British Raj in India was quite similar to what Tharoor had put forth: British rule impoverished the Indian economy by draining resources through taxation, and through a process of “de-industrialization” that robbed millions of artisans of their livelihoods. The earliest and most influential proponents of this view were two prolific writers, Dadabhai Naoroji and Romesh Dutt. Although these two gentlemen did not advocate an end to British rule, their writings turned into powerful weapons in the hands of Indian nationalists. The birth of “economic nationalism”—or the idea that India needed to be free because foreigners had ruined its economy—gave a boost to India’s freedom struggle, but it proved detrimental to a dispassionate assessment of economic history, and led India to close its doors to the world in the first few decades following Independence, argued renowned economic historian Tirthankar Roy in a recently published essay in the Economic and Political Weekly. The contributions of Marxist scholars such as Paul Baran and Samir Amin bolstered this view and led many influential leaders of the developing world to view openness with suspicion. The rich world became so by exploiting poor countries such as India, the Marxist scholars argued, and the narrative of drain and de-industrialization in India acquired even greater legitimacy. Roy argues that de-industrialization was a myth, simply because factory production and employment had taken firm roots in British India by the early 20th century and grew at a rapid pace in the first half of the 20th century. “Between 1850 and 1940, employment in Indian factories increased from near zero to two million,” writes Roy. “Real GDP at factor cost originating in factories rose at the rate of 4-5% per year between 1900 and 1947. These rates were comparable with those of the two other emerging economies of the time, Japan and Russia, and without a close parallel in the tropical world of the 19th century. Cotton textiles were the leading industry of the 19th century. Outside Europe and the US, 30% of the cotton spindles in the world were located in India in 1910. Within the tropical zone, 55% of the spindles were in India.” The creation of the three great port cities of Calcutta, Bombay and Madras spurred India’s industrial boom, as it helped Indian merchants and producers to integrate with the global economy, writes Roy. This would not have been possible without the supply of skills and technology that the European settlers provided, Roy contends. Engineers, managers and partners from abroad who joined Indian firms to work under Indian bosses were integral to the success of Indian industry.

  482. @Malla

    玛拉

    This would be true on average. Your typical Asian male comes to the West young, energetic and enterprising. Your average Westerner comes to Asia older, more weary and less dynamic.

    Say a Tommy Morrison from the working class moves to India because it is cheap. He is not going to be marrying a striving young techie or Brahmin girl from a good family. He’ll marry some Catholic girl from a poor family in South India who figure that at least their grand kids will be paler. Some of the children of Goras and Indian women like Dino the Italian Bollywood actor who made that movie with my fellow American acquaintance Daniel’s wife can get into Bollywood. Otherwise, they are nobody special in India.

    On the other hand an Indian male who marries a Gora usually has a decent career and is ambitious.

  483. @tamo

    Well if you know I’m from Detroit you know my age.

    And why bother to live in squalor in Detroit when it is so easy to exist on \$1000 a month in Asia and so many local women want to marry foreigners? Though the relationships with bar girls don’t work out for older foreign men in my experience.

    If you can, it is better for a foreigner to marry a woman from the Chinese merchant communities of Southeast Asia. Even if she is divorced-which makes her damaged goods by Chinese standards-your kids have the anchor of the family business and you yourself can buy into her land holdings.

    That is what I did.

    Are you older than me? Cannot really tell because you clearly have never left the city you were born in or been employed anywhere but the place you were born. That is common with Asian men. Your only interaction with them has been seeing (Comparatively) wealthy and tall and confident-looking white men in STARBUCKS or other trendy restaurants with the hotter local women. I’m sure it boils your blood.

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  484. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    You need to watch this

    黎巴嫩肿瘤学家菲利普·塞勒姆教授承认,如果仍由法国授权,黎巴嫩情况会更好
    Arabic with English subtitles.

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  485. tamo 说:
    @jeff stryker

    You really are a pitiful white trash who is not even qualified flipping burgers at McDonald’s let alone be a barrister at Starbucks and rejected many times over by even PLAIN looking white women and try to live on \$1000 a month in some South East Asian slum-infested shithole.

    But you are a MASTER in giving your pathetic song and dance to some HOMELY Filipina bar girls or Thai whores, lol.

    I think you served a few years with the U.S. Navy and stationed in the Philippines but got in trouble many times with SP for haggling over prices with Filipina whores and kicked out of the USN with dishonorable discharge. I bet that’s the little entry in your DD-214. What a winner, lol !!!

    For your information, I have traveled all over world and seen and done many things you have only dreamed of. I definitely don’t live \$ 1000 a month as you do, little man.
    You don’t even know whether I’m white or Asian or even black, keep guessing, my boy.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
  486. @tamo

    Former US Embassy USIA Branch Assistant, not the Navy. I served briefly in the Michigan National Guard Reserves long before moving overseas but was discharged for having bad hearing and heart murmur.

    I don’t want to disclose which US Embassy or when, a freak like you with enough time on his hands might be able to look through the records of the unclassified Embassy sectors and find out who I was.

    I was a PR man, in plain terms.

    One reason I enjoy discourse on this site is not the articles (Except Linh’s) but so I can blow off twenty years of steam at blacks, Mexicans, Asians and Indians whom I was never able to do so with at the time of my employment in their countries. Hicks too.

    Personally I make you for a Filipino. But I concur that you are correct, for all I know you are a Swedish-American living in St. Paul, Minnesota. For all I know, you are a sp*c.

    I’m average sized by white standards. Five nine, two hundred pounds, muscular.

    Thank goodness my college girlfriend did dump me….I’ve had a good time overseas.

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  487. tamo 说:

    @ Jeff Stryker
    You said “so I can blow off twenty years of steam at blacks, Mexicans, Asians and Indians whom I was never able to do so with at the time of my employment in their countries. Hicks too”.

    But I get the impression you live somewhere in the South East Asia among the people you DO NOT care. You are nothing but a hypocrite.

    You sound like a frustrated short (5’9″) , overweight (200 lbs) down and out loser who can not make a living in the States. I guess the best choice for you is keep living in the SE Asia because you can stretch your meager \$1000 a month- income a little better there, lol !!! With your short and stocky build and practically no income, even a fat and cross-eyed white woman will not go out with you, lol !!!!

    By the way, Filipinos or sp*s are not my favorite ethnic groups My boy, since you don’t much care for non-whites, you are in the wrong website. You will find much better receptions in ANOTHER white supremacy sites such as Stormfront.com or American Renaissance. Good luck, shorty, lol !!!

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  488. Anonymous[383]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    False, typical marxist nonsense. Educate yourself by reading post 477. the trade of colonial mother countries with their colonies was tiny compared to their trade with each other. In other words their colonies were economically inconsequential. Or I will put it up again.

    What does “trade with colonies” mean? Does it count as “trade” if it’s with yourself? The colonies belong to Britain. It may not be counted as “trade” if you’re shifting resources between yourself.

    What’s more, how is the value measured? The value of raw materials will obviously be lower than the finished product made in England. But without cheap raw materials, manufactured goods from England could not be possible.

    Of course “trade” between Britain and Europe will be greater. Why? Because here they’re actually exchanging currency.

    No currency is being exchanged between Britain and its colonies, you lentil brain.

    You did not need colonies for that. Independent countries can be nodes in the supply chain.

    Independent countries, like India, SAmerica and China, may not be interested in trade with you and at the prices you want them for. What’s more, these locations may not serve as reliable sources without direct control of the supply chain.

    Why did the US force Latin America into banana republics? Surely, these countries would be willing to sell bananas to Americans. BUT NOT AT THE PRICE OR QUANTITY YOU WANT THEM FOR. Given a choice, they would use more of their land/manpower to grow basic goods to feed their own people, not exotic fruits for Americans.

    Which the British and the French and the Dutch are incapable of doing. Interesting.

    Are the Brits capable of producing Audis and BMWs? No.

    Can the Germans produce Cartier and Chanel? No.

    And after colonialism ended these supply chains dissipated? There are no supply chains post colonialism? And countries like India or Indonesia do not tap into supply chains created by others?

    We have colonialism by other means. We have banana republics in Latin America and billionaire sheiks in the Middle East. We have the dollar standard, SWIFT and finance based capitalism controlled by Washington.

    India and Indonesia have their own gifts and problems. But what they can and can’t do are their own problems to work out.

    That is true but before their empires they were poor barbarians? Why did the Arabs waste forces to conquer Iberia if they were poor barbarians?

    I didn’t say Spaniards were poor barbarians. But they did leapfrog post-conquest. And declined henceforth because they failed to innovate and use their wealth to industrialize.

    Bingo!! Exactly! Industrialization played a big part in making nations rich over colonies.

    Industrialization can’t happen without raw materials, including coal and oil.

    Industrialization was key, just as HUMAN INTELLIGENCE is key to everything. But without natural resources and cheap labor provided by colonies, much of that would not be possible, particularly its growth/expansion beyond a small cottage industry.

    European colonisation is not much different from Empire building which has been taking place from the beginning of time.

    Not necessarily. The Mongols built an empire, but its citizens were more or less equal. China, Afghanistan and Iran were not “exploited” to build up “Mongolia”.

    The Brits built an empire, and everything it conquered was conquered with a view to benefit England and to be exploited for the benefit of the British people.

    And I claimed he was speaking about the morality of colonialism??

    The question here is not about the economic benefits of colonialism bestowed on the colonized, but the moral ramifications. We agree that colonialism can redound in many economic benefits.

    The Chinese man wasn’t (morally) defending colonialism but the economic lessons that should have been learned from colonialism.

    Bruce Gilley, a Political Science PhD and Associate Professor at Portland State University has recently published a paper named ‘The case for colonialism ‘ in the THIRD WORLD QUARTERLY.

    Again, I don’t necessarily have a problem with helping others, even helping others by FORCE if necessary. But colonialism wasn’t about helping others. It was not benevolent or altruistic in the least.

    And morality aside, he is admitting that the Belgians gave the Congolese some of the most advanced technology of their time which was even absent in China at that time.

    And that may all be true. But it doesn’t matter. Because morality is what counts.

    If the West really wants to help Africa, for instance, genuinely and sincerely, and it concludes in all its wisdom that the West must FORCE development upon them, then I have no problem with that as long as the INTENTION is genuine and sincere. And in the end, the African people are treated with dignity and respect.

    But if you go in with the guise of aid but in reality the purpose is exploitation, then there is a moral problem.

    Why don’t you actually read? WHY DO I HAVE TO REPOST EVERYTHING AGAIN. I AM GETTING TIRED.

    You’re just reposting economic arguments. And I’m not arguing that point.

    黎巴嫩肿瘤学家菲利普·塞勒姆教授承认,如果仍由法国授权,黎巴嫩情况会更好

    This is another economic argument. And to be sure, if the French controlled Lebanon, they would probably be economically better off. For one, the damn Israelis wouldn’t be meddling. But if the damn Israelis left Lebanon alone, then the Lebanese people would also be better off.

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    , @Malla
  489. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    What’s more, how is the value measured? The value of raw materials will obviously be lower than the finished product made in England. But without cheap raw materials, manufactured goods from England could not be possible.

    Of course “trade” between Britain and Europe will be greater. Why? Because here they’re actually exchanging currency.

    No currency is being exchanged between Britain and its colonies, you lentil brain.

    What no currency was exchanged in between Britain and her colonies?? Are you a dumb fool??? You are making up your own history. You are making up BS from your ass. You fool, Britain’s currency was the Pound and India’s currency was the Rupees. Of course currency was exchanged, you stupid fool.

    You are really slow are you not?
    You fool, Britain’s currrency was the Pound and India’s currency was the Rupees even during the empire. Of course currency was exchanged, you stupid fool. You are making up BS from your ass. You have no knowledge of colonail economics except Communist brainwashing.
    Check out the trade table at
    http://www.friesian.com/british.htm
    I HAVE TO REPOST EVERYTHING

    From 1913 to 1938, Indian manufacturing output grew at an annual 5.6 per cent, well above the world average of 3.3 per cent and a growth rate we would welcome today.

    Far from becoming a dumping ground for British products, India maintained a trade surplus with Britain throughout the colonial period, and export earnings paid for the services bought in from abroad by both public and private sectors. True, 19th century British governments at home and in India were committed to economic laissez faire and free trade and did little to protect indigenous industries. Nevertheless, young Indian industries like textiles and steel were given tariff protection during the world depression in the 1920s. From 1913 to 1938, Indian manufacturing output grew at an annual 5.6 per cent, well above the world average of 3.3 per cent and a growth rate we would welcome today.

    By the 1850s, India’s own industrial revolution was taking off, fuelled by a virtuous economic circle of faster internal transport, increased commerce and agricultural productivity, rapidly expanding export markets and the resulting much-needed capital accumulation in an economy long starved of venture capital.

    A Bombay mill-owner could set up with borrowed British capital and the latest machinery and skilled foremen from Manchester. India’s first cotton mills opened in 1851, preceding Japan by 20 years and China by 40. They were soon beating Manchester at its own game, supplying 76 per cent of India’s textile demand by 1945.

    India was itself manufacturing finished goods too. British India was far more industrialized than China in 1945.

    在欧洲和美国之外,30 年世界上 1910% 的棉锭位于印度。在热带地区,55% 的棉锭位于印度。

    India’s per capita industrial output at independence was higher than anywhere else in Asia except Japan, and more than half its exports were manufactures, not raw materials.

    Are Slow learner??? Why do I have to REPOST EVERYTHING. Britain did exchange currency in between Britain and India as the currencies were different. And Britain’s trade with colonies was far less than its trade with Europe and USA. There is nothing to do with exchange of currencies.

  490. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    Independent countries, like India, SAmerica and China, may not be interested in trade with you and at the prices you want them for. What’s more, these locations may not serve as reliable sources without direct control of the supply chain.

    You are making up bullshit theories out of your ass. Britain paid fair prices. Britain was trading with Indian merchants during Empire, are you telling me Indian merchants would take low price??? Are you a fool??? You are .

    Are the Brits capable of producing Audis and BMWs? No.

    Can the Germans produce Cartier and Chanel? No.

    You dumbfart. I am talking about Germany’s rise before WW1. At that time, Britain was one of the biggest car manufacturer in the World.

    Industrialization can’t happen without raw materials, including coal and oil.

    And Britain did not not have coal fields?

    But without natural resources and cheap labor provided by colonies, much of that would not be possible, particularly its growth/expansion beyond a small cottage industry.

    AND what about British labour? French labour?
    By your logic a country like Germany would not be able to develop as much as Britain as it had smaller empire. But Germany’s industries was growing faster than Britain. How is that possible if colonies were so important??? Why did Portugal grow faster than Germany as Portugal had a much bigger Empire. Colonies were irrelevant.

    But colonialism wasn’t about helping others. It was not benevolent or altruistic in the least.

    It was. Explain all those laws passed in the British Empire for the benefit of Indians. You have not.

    The Brits built an empire, and everything it conquered was conquered with a view to benefit England and to be exploited for the benefit of the British people.

    Not true, everybody benefited. there were Indians who were billionaires in British India, richer than many British. Indians like the Birlas, Tatas. And the Birlas were also anti-British even then they were richer than most Englishmen.

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  491. Malla 说:

    We have colonialism by other means.

    Of course we have, check this out

    南非“青年领袖”朱利叶斯·马莱马不希望中国殖民非洲

    Prof PLO Lumumba -Robust Speech on China buying up Africa

    中国正在慢慢接管加勒比和非洲。 暴露了!!!

    非洲我们有问题!! #China #ChineseTakeover Dr. Mumbi Show

    赞比亚是中国的第一个非洲殖民地?? 蒙比博士秀

    Check out the comments from some Africans

    黑人非洲海报戴维森文森特写道
    “我曾经认为中国对非洲很友善,但现在我的想法不同了。 非洲真的需要醒来! ”

    黑人非洲海报 Raya Xoxo 写道
    “我们应该在非洲开始反华运动 ”

    黑色非洲海报 Dze Hoi 写道
    “中国没有得到债务减免; 中国将夺取非洲大陆99年,让非洲人成为奴隶。 我们尚未恢复的西方奴隶制看起来就像吃大米一样......”

    黑人非洲海报托克斯班克斯写道
    “当非洲领导人从他们的天真和愚蠢中醒来时,中国将拥有整个非洲。 那么非洲将需要另一个独立于中国的人。 傻瓜,他们能看到的只是免费的钱 ”

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  492. @Malla

    Tatas were Parsee who, as far as know, did not become rich until the 20th century.

    Brahmin and Parsee seem to fare well during the British Occupation. The Parsee all moved down from Gujarat to Mumbai to do business with Brits.

    If you could argue any detriment, it would be that Brits strengthened the position of Brahmin during colonization.

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  493. Anonymous[383]• 免责声明 说:

    You fool, Britain’s currency was the Pound and India’s currency was the Rupees. Of course currency was exchanged, you stupid fool.

    You’re too literal. I was speaking metaphorically. Whether “currency” is exchanged is unimportant.

    When MSFT in the US “trades” with MSFT in Ireland, currency changes hand, but it’s really just an internal transfer.

    Much of the exchange of goods between Britain and India may have been of that nature and thus not counted in the official figures. East India Company, for instance, was just shifting goods internally between itself. As a matter of accounting, currencies were “exchanged”, but it wasn’t “trade” in the market sense. It was just shifting goods from the left hand to the right hand.

    Far from becoming a dumping ground for British products, India maintained a trade surplus with Britain throughout the colonial period, and export earnings paid for the services bought in from abroad by both public and private sectors.

    Stuff like this is irrelevant. India had a trade surplus because the Brits were continuing to invest in Indian companies run by Brits. Britain’s trade surplus with the world obviously more than made up for the deficit with India, which functioned as a supplier of raw materials and cheap goods for British companies.

    By the 1850s, India’s own industrial revolution was taking off, fuelled by a virtuous economic circle of faster internal transport, increased commerce and agricultural productivity, rapidly expanding export markets and the resulting much-needed capital accumulation in an economy long starved of venture capital.

    孟买工厂的老板可以利用借来的英国资本以及曼彻斯特的最新机械和熟练工头来组建。 印度最早的棉纺厂于1851年开业,在日本之前是20年,在中国之前是40。它们很快就击败了曼彻斯特,到76年满足了印度纺织品需求的1945%。

    Again, all this stuff is irrelevant as far as assessing British colonialism from a moral standpoint. These are all economic stats.

    Britain paid fair prices. Britain was trading with Indian merchants during Empire, are you telling me Indian merchants would take low price???

    That is probably true, but irrelevant. Indian merchants were operating under British rules and terms.

    If the Brits could trade with India left to themselves, then why go to the trouble of colonizing? Surely, some benefit was perceived.

    I am talking about Germany’s rise before WW1. At that time, Britain was one of the biggest car manufacturer in the World.

    Again, I was speaking metaphorically. The Germans have talents and skills the Brits do not. And that’s what helped them industrialize quickly despite lack of colonies.

    And Britain did not not have coal fields?

    Again, coal is a metaphor. We know Britain had plenty of coal and it’s one of the catalysts for its industrial revolution. But imagine Britain without coal? Or other raw materials? Then wherefore its industrialization? It would be difficult.

    You can’t get rich just on brains. You need resources.

    By your logic a country like Germany would not be able to develop as much as Britain as it had smaller empire. But Germany’s industries was growing faster than Britain. How is that possible if colonies were so important??? Why did Portugal grow faster than Germany as Portugal had a much bigger Empire. Colonies were irrelevant.

    I can’t answer all the mysteries of the universe for you. The age of empire was clearly coming to an end by the early 20th century. Britain was on the decline. America was ascendant. Germany was ascendant. It’s just one of those things that happen to all civilizations.

    It was. Explain all those laws passed in the British Empire for the benefit of Indians. You have not.

    British laws benefited Indians, but ultimately, they were passed for the benefit of the British. And India was run as a colonial project for the benefit of the British people, not Indians.

    I’m not sure where you get the idea the Brits are benevolent. Brits may be good people, but the British Empire is not. It has always been a parasitic project.

    there were Indians who were billionaires in British India, richer than many British. Indians like the Birlas, Tatas. And the Birlas were also anti-British even then they were richer than most Englishmen.

    Again, absolutely irrelevant.

    赞比亚是中国的第一个非洲殖民地?? 蒙比博士秀

    If the Chinese are engaging in colonialism and exploiting Africans, then they deserve condemnation.

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  494. Anon[637]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    There are extremely few Indians in China and Taiwan, but lots in Anglo countries. Why is that?

    There’s also a lot of investment into Africa from China, but much less into India.

    It almost seems like Chinese have an aversion to Indians.

    • 回复: @jeff stryker
    , @Malla
  495. @tamo

    When it comes to race, virtually all the urban underclass are fairly awful. From rednecks and whiggers to Cholos and many (Though not all) African-Americans. They are all equally sickening; however on average the Cholos and blacks are more legitimately ruthless and capable of violence.

    I never lived in Asia because I loved Filipinos, Koreans or any other local demographic. I lived overseas because lower-class Americans are disgusting morons from rural trailer park degeneracy to barrio savagery. On the skids in the US, the poor are often all disgusting.

    Fortunately, none of these people can live overseas. They are too poor, too often on government relief of some sort, too often on probation, too often pregnant or being chased down from child support, to geographically isolated.

    As for my own personal finances, my earning power might have been higher in the US. But lower-class US milieu is really so gross now and half SJW/half third world squalor that it would impact my quality of life to a degree I would deem unlivable.

    So I stay overseas.

    America has seemingly gone downhill the last 20 years since Bush was elected anyhow. There was a bit of dignity for working and middle class Americans during the Clinton era that disappeared sometime after the year 2000 and never returned. So I have no regrets on spending my life overseas.

    It is definitely not because I am three inches under six foot. I’m very grateful my college girlfriend broke up with me. She later married another guy and they live in Warren MI. An armpit. Meanwhile I spend my life watching the sunset of the Gulf of Oman and in the tropics in warm lovely climates.

    I’m very grateful my college girlfriend broke up with me. Eternally grateful.

    And if you offered me a six figure job in America I probably wouldn’t take it.

    • 哈哈: tamo
  496. @Anon

    They definitely do. I have never been to China but resided in India long enough to be aware of this.

  497. Malla 说:
    @Anonymous

    India had a trade surplus because the Brits were continuing to invest in Indian companies run by Brits. Britain’s trade surplus with the world obviously more than made up for the deficit with India, which functioned as a supplier of raw materials and cheap goods for British companies.

    I have to repost AGAIN from above.
    By the 1850s, India’s own industrial revolution was taking off,

    They were soon beating Manchester at its own game, supplying 76 per cent of India’s textile demand by 1945.

    在欧洲和美国之外,30 年世界上 1910% 的棉锭位于印度。在热带地区,55% 的棉锭位于印度。

    India’s per capita industrial output at independence was higher than anywhere else in Asia except Japan, and more than half its exports were manufactures, not raw materials.”

    How was the above possible if India was to be kept as only a supplier of raw materials???

    Indian merchants were operating under British rules and terms.

    Which were mostly fair to everybody. Indian merchants earned millions by supplying goods to the British Army during WW2 and they were paid in full.

    If the Brits could trade with India left to themselves, then why go to the trouble of colonizing? Surely, some benefit was perceived.

    British colonisation took place before industrialization. There was a benefit then but as industrialization in Britain increased, Britain’s economy grew, the colonies became less important. The British came to the Indies to compete with other Europeans for the spice trade. And the Europeans themselves wanted to challenge the Islamic monopoly of the trade in between the Indies (Indian subcontinent and South East Asia) and Europe, after the fall of Christian Constantinople to the Turks. In those early days there was benefit in having a monopoly in trade in between Europe and a particular kingdom to the exclusion of other European powers. For example the British would ask a Raja (King) a monopoly in trade so that the Raja does not trade with the other European business houses like the Dutch, French, Portuguese etc… This was basically inter European competition and I would argue it was inter European competition which was the major driving force for colonialism. There was a fear that the other power would get said territory and get some strategic advantage. There was also a bit of prestige involved as well.
    The British did not come to conquer India. It is just one thing led to another and then they ended up conquering Bengal, which was the most richest part of the Empire. But that is different story.
    Yes the colonies were beneficial in the early days of trade and taxes. But later the colonies ended up being more costly. Because as time went on, the government had to put in money in modernization like railways, sewage systems, defence etc….

    But imagine Britain without coal? Or other raw materials? Then wherefore its industrialization? It would be difficult.

    You can’t get rich just on brains. You need resources.

    Very true. Yes raw material are needed but you do not need colonies for raw materials. Japan rose after WW2 without colonies. Germany (both East and West) rose again after WW2 without colonies. China rose in the early 2000s without colonies.

    Britain was on the decline. America was ascendant. Germany was ascendant.

    Very true but having a much smaller empire, far less colonies than Britain and France, Germany would not have risen in a position to scare the Anglo French. It was not colonies but the workers of these European nations drove the rise of these nations. The British worker and middle class, the French worker and middle class, the German worker and middle class who were the driving force of the economic rise of these nations. Workers in Northern Europe were far more productive than most workers in India, Malaysia and definitely Africa.
    Once the Industrial Revolution took off in force, the importance of Empires and colonies reduced. that is why Portugal who had colonies upto the 1970s was left behind by the more industrialised nations of the North. That is why the Ottomans who had a huge empire till the 1920s was left behind as it had not industrialized itself. That brings me to the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans had an empire for a long period of time and it was very huge and yet Turkey is not a first World country. If we go by your logic, Turkey should have been way richer than Denmark. Portugal would have had a higher per capita income than Norway. But that is not the case.

    British laws benefited Indians, but ultimately, they were passed for the benefit of the British.

    How??? Explain. How does banning Sati, where Indian women jumping into the funeral pyre of their late husbands, benefit the British? The women jumping were not British women. So what benefit do the British get by banning it? Why care?
    What benefit do the British get by stopping Thugees? The Thugees (the real ones who actually worshiped Kali) were forbidden by their rules to kill Europeans. So the British were scot free. Indeed the British would have encouraged the Thugees as they would kill travelling Indian merchants and the road would be open for only British merchants. But the British ended the Thugees secret societies because they wanted law and order and safety for people living under their realm. Before the British, the thugees were protected by the Hindu and Muslim kings as they got a cut from their earnings. Indeed a Chinese traveler to India in the 12th century had mentioned about the Thugees. It is only the British who ended it and Indians benefited the most.
    What benefit would the British get by finishing off the Pindaris?

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Anonymous
  498. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    There are extremely few Indians in China and Taiwan, but lots in Anglo countries. Why is that?

    First point is Language. A lot of Indians know English. Migrating to Taiwan and China would mean learning a new language.
    Migrating to Anglo countries is easy and the Indians can use their clannish methods to rise to the top in law abiding Anglo society with ease.
    It is much harder to migrate to China and Taiwan and it is much much harder to get citizenship. It is comparatively easier to get citizenship in Anglo countries. Besides as far as China is concerned, China itself is a growing economy and would be more interested in creating jobs for the Chinese. In the early days of Indian migration, Anglo countries had good employment stats so they did not mind. Now of course unemployment has increased in Anglo countries but the Jewish elites are getting more and more Indians (and other foreigners in) to suppress the Native/ majority Anglo population.

    There’s also a lot of investment into Africa from China, but much less into India.

    This has to do with the bitterness the Indian elites have for China. They are still pissed about the 1962 war when India tried forcefully to take disputed territory from China but ended up getting a bloody nose. Like little children they have still not been able to swallow this humiliation.
    When it comes to Indo-China relationships, it is China who seems to be friendly towards India and wants cooperation but the Indian elites are the belligerent party. Also China is very close to Pakistan, India’s sworn enemy.
    The Indian deep state using the media, uses China to scare the Indian people to take away attention from their own failings & to fuel up Indian nationalism. Many nations do this regularly. The Indian elites also use Pakistan (and Pakistan uses India) to do this. They also wrongly use the British Raj past to blame all their failings (while taking credit for all the earlier British Raj Government achievements such as the irrigation projects of the Punjab ). The Chinese Government in turn fuels up Chinese nationalism by using the Japanese as boogey men. So what India does to China, China does to Japan. Use them as boogeymen to fuel home nationalism and divert attention from domestic issues.
    Also the Indian elites and people are jealous of China’s rise. We Indians are arrogant and think we are the greatest civilization in human history. Instead of working hard like the Chinese and learning from the Chinese experience, we have gloated ourselves to poverty.
    China had offered India to join OBOR but the Indians rejected citing CPEC transits in disputed Indian territory. But the truth is the idiotic Indian elites, like little kids, have a negative attitude towards China while the Chinese have shown positive attitudes towards India in the past. This anti China sentiment has brought the Indian and American elites together.
    There is one point in which the Indian Government may have legitimate concerns and that is falling in debt if they get involved in Chinese projects. But I think the main driving force of the Indian aversion to China is the childishness and stupidity of the Indian elites.

  499. Malla 说:
    @Malla

    they ended up conquering Bengal, which was the most richest part of the Empire.

    Correction, I meant “they ended up conquering Bengal, which was the most richest part of the 印度次大陆设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

  500. Malla 说:
    @jeff stryker

    Actually The Brahmins were pissed off with the British because the British Raj improved the conditions of the lower castes.

    • 回复: @Anon
  501. Malla 说:
    @Half-Jap

    Hey check out this book. Very interesting about WW2, how anti Japanese communists in USA and Soviet forced the war on Japan.

    https://digitalrepository.trincoll.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1047&context=moore

    America Has No Enemies In Asia! 1938

  502. Malla 说:
    @Che Guava

    Friend, the pleasure was all mine.
    Anyways check out this interesting link/ book about Japan in WW2 at post no. 519 on this page.

    • 回复: @Che Guava
  503. Anon[373]• 免责声明 说:
    @Malla

    The untouchables got reservations after independence. Then more recently, backward castes got reservations.

    India’s elites, many of whom were Brahmin, were strongly influenced by Socialism, Communism, and Western egalitarianism. So they were actually amenable to improving the welfare of the low caste peasantry.

    Lower castes were actually minimally affected by British rule. The British left Indians to regulate their own affairs, for the most part. They relied a lot on local royal families to rule areas. Those royal families maintained a feudal structure in which local aristocratic landowners had a lot of power. Downtrodden peasants, in that era, got abused a lot by landlords and moneylenders.

    The biggest beneficiaries of British rule were some of the Mercantile castes (Marwaris, Parsis), anyone who was hired into the British Raj’s bureaucracy (usually Brahmins), and “martial races” in the Raj’s army (Sikhs, Khatris, Marathas, etc).

    After independence, the royal families had their land seized and a lot of that was redistributed to peasants.

    More recently, Naxalites have tried to seize land from local landowners. In Bihar, there’s a caste war between Brahmin Bhumihars and untouchable peasants.

    The problem in present day India is no longer Brahmin or upper caste domination. The problem is that people of all castes, whether high or low, are fanatically casteist. Reservations have improved the welfare of low castes, but also strengthened caste identity.

    • 回复: @Malla
  504. britishbrainsize [又名“ eastkekestaniisawhiteguy”] 说:
    @jeff stryker

    white guys especially britis are in asia just to have a good time these are the mofos that need to be kicked out and sent back to britain or australia, if your there for work fine , but stay away from our women.

  505. Malla 说:
    @Anon

    Check out post 363 on this page.

  506. Anonymous[150]• 免责声明 说: