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拉比人对巴黎灾难不感到遗憾。 “这是焚烧塔木德的神圣惩罚,”神圣的犹太神圣教徒伯特利·拉比(Bethel Rabbi) 什洛莫·阿维纳,关于巴黎圣母院大火。 在1242年,法国人调查了塔木德(Talmud),确定食典中含有大量仇恨言论,最后在新建成的巴黎圣母院(Notre Dame Cathedral)广场上烧掉了1200个抄本。 “惩罚的时刻到了,”犹太教教士大声说道。 没那么快,拉比! 如果我们必须把这两个事件联系在一起-塔木德的历史性焚烧和教堂的近期破坏,那么故事的真正意义在于法国曾经拥有强大而有力的免疫系统。 中世纪那本邪恶书的毁坏建立了对塔尔木德法制的健康抵抗力,帮助大教堂在战争和革命中度过了777年的魔幻岁月。 但是,nothing,任何事情都不会永远持续下去:法国人民的抵抗力已经耗尽。

也许是时候重新接种法国人以防塔尔穆迪奇计谋了。 也许再过777年,塔尔木迪人的不容忍和犹太人至高无上的精神应该再次从法国中心被驱除。 也许替换大教堂的建设将激发圣母的忠贞精神。 但这不太可能发生。 确实,在目前的气候下,法国当局更有可能将烧毁的巴黎圣母院残骸变成下一个宽容博物馆。

777年前,拒绝犹太法典的犹太人与犹太人分道扬accepted,接受了基督并进入了教会, 尼古拉斯·丹宁(Nicholas Danin) 使争吵的Talmudic仇恨暴露于一场争执中,这一争吵震惊又得罪了人,同意将它们收集起来并烧掉。 在马克龙(Macron)的法国,尼古拉斯·丹宁(Nicholas Danin)将被LICRA拖入法庭,如果没有立即受到刑罚,他将被判入狱。 如果达宁而不是塔尔木德(Talmud),如果他的法官像我们一样接受过哲学培训,就会被判犯有仇恨言论。 有什么理由将巴黎圣母院的遗物归还天主教会吗? 为什么不直接将其移交给CRIF(法国司法机构委员会)​​。

在相同的 文章 法国出生的犹太教教士Shlomo Aviner提醒他的追随者,所有基督教教堂最终都将被摧毁(至少在以色列是这样)–但时机尚未成熟。 至于法国大教堂,“我们不是 有义务 摧毁它”,尽管“基督教是犹太人的主要敌人。” 一个犹太人应该在被烧毁的教堂面前欢欣鼓舞,并背叛复仇之王的复仇之王的特殊祝福。 在法国,犹太人的势力在上升,而教会的重要性却在下降。 旧大教堂几乎没有机会幸免于这种命运的转折。 它将被重建为其他东西:不是天主教的东西,不是教堂的东西。 它将旨在吸引游客; 无需咨询法国本地人。 已经在 决定 他们。

大教堂的毁灭已经有很长时间了。 当Femen的裸女巫庆祝黑色弥撒,虐待牧师,并在巴黎圣母院的高楼里挥舞着古老的钟声时,法国法院立即 无罪释放 他们全被指控,而是判处试图制止圣物的守卫。 但这对教会的敌人来说还远远不够:由于他们的大胆亵渎,Femen获赠了法国的2017年奖杯 国际世俗主义奖,他们的领导者为纪念她发行了一张邮票,并担任了法国偶像玛丽安(Marianne)的模特。 法国天主教作家和历史学家多米尼克·文纳(Dominique Venner)于2013年在大教堂自杀,以提醒他的同胞注意威胁他深爱的法国的暴风云,但徒劳无功。

在法国,在犹太人及其盟友的带领下,与教会的不懈斗争继续取得成果。 在2013年,荷兰政府强迫公民接受同性婚姻,尽管 大规模演示 由法国天主教徒。 LICRA在法国的影响力甚至超过了ADL在美国的影响力。 Soral和Dieudonné等天主教徒现在因触犯犹太人的敏感性而被送入监狱(众所周知,犹太人可能非常敏感)。 他们以逼迫教会的方式起诉黄背心,其理由也完全相同:两者都是由坚固的省份组成,这些省份可以追溯到基督教法国的时代。

巴黎的大火对法国人来说应该是不祥的警告:与您的教会重新联系! 救救她并珍惜她,因为她可能并不总是和你在一起。 她走后谁会救你? 法国教会应通过支持黄色背心对抗马克龙的反基督教政府,来与人民接触。 他的政府没有采取任何措施来捍卫教会,而且那场大火并不是从天而降的。 马克龙绝对是有罪的,即使不是由于行为,而是由于刑事过失。 很难想象他在新闻上敬酒香槟。 我们所有人都应该警惕那些可能为我们的教会遭到破坏而高兴的有权势的人。

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像在美国一样,以前反对法国教会的活动家在“恋童癖牧师”的旗帜下进行了封送。 这种明确的特质(或者我们应该说“ canard”还是“ trope”?)直接针对教会的核心。 没有人说过吉布人的不诚实,他们太忙于殴打自己的乳房。 但是,如果您提到“犹太骗子”,您的门上就会碰到LICRA或其姊妹尸体。 可能有一些骗子恰好是犹太人,但这并没有使他们成为“犹太骗子”,他们虔诚地背诵。 而且,如果您碰巧说“犹太骗子”,那么您就是反犹太主义的罪魁祸首。 但是“恋童癖牧师”很好。 因此,教会被迫清洗自己,犹太人被独自留下,自由地继续自己的毁灭性行为。

犹太人称自己为“一个祭司之国”,是地球上最反基督教的祭司。 随着犹太教会势力的增强,基督教教会的力量逐渐减弱。 这是零和游戏。

即使是我们这些对精神事物不感兴趣的人,也会看到历史有重演的危险。 每当黑暗势力准备对人类发动新的攻击时,他们都会使用他们可观的大炮来阻止任何潜在的抵抗,而且他们总是首先瞄准他们公开的敌人教会。 这也是第三帝国的做法:在战争开始之前,他们及时地开始了 运动 的“作为性恶魔的牧师”欺负教会,使其默许。 我们的第四帝国认真地记录了下来:教会反对伊拉克战争; 教会坚定不移地保卫巴勒斯坦; 教会反对即将对伊朗发动的袭击; 教会坚决反对与俄罗斯的战争。 显然,必须让教会屈服。

但教会不能因她仆人的恶行而受到玷污。 如果神父虐待一个男孩,那么罪行是他的罪行,而不是教会的罪行。 同样,如果一个士兵虐待一个男孩,那不是军队的错,如果一个政治家虐待一个男孩,国家也不应该受到指责。 既然我们现在起诉天主教会神父犯下的罪行,难道我们不能就犹太人犯下的每项罪行起诉她的传统竞争对手犹太人吗? 如果教会对“虐待神父”负有责任,也许国际犹太人应该对“欺骗犹太人”负责? 还是为了那些散布战争的犹太人? 还是因为犹太人在巴勒斯坦杀害外邦人?

一只小鸟告诉我,现代犹太人永远不会同意接受集体责任。 当他们站在彼拉多面前时,他们后悔自己的狂妄自大。 今天的犹太人已经准备好作为一个集体来收集,而不是支付。 今天这一代温和的教堂鸽可能会从这些聪明的老蛇身上学到一些关于如何在这个犹太世界中生存的实用教训。

一个小建议:驳回上世纪文书虐待的所谓受害者。 送他们回家。 我并不为这些迟到的索赔人感到难过。 为什么他们等了20年才抱怨? 被袭击的孩子尖叫着跑回家找父母和警察。 如果他们没有奔跑和尖叫,那就不是攻击。 把它归结为一个可怜的业余爱好者的笨拙传球; 可以肯定的是,这是一种不愉快、可耻的经历,但不太可能以严厉的斥责重演。 责怪自己发出了混杂的信号,然后继续你的生活。 加入人类:我们每个人,甚至你的爸爸妈妈,都遭受过不受欢迎的亲吻或不受欢迎的拥抱。 法律应该是合理的。 允许 20 年前未报告的违规行为提出索赔是不合理的。 只有直接指控才应被视为有效,在大多数情况下,24 小时足以提出正式投诉。

如果犯罪已经发生,那么罪犯当然应该受到惩罚。 但不要让谴责者从他的犯罪报告中获利。 这是正义的必要规则。 曾经有一段时间,谴责者可以要求被谴责者的财产的三分之一。 在当今的诉讼环境中,我们常常甚至超过了这一点。

“paedo”角度具有误导性。 什么是“孩子”? 你对罗密欧与朱丽叶有反感吗? 作为一名优秀的美国公民,你应该是; 朱丽叶 14 岁,因此今天的罗密欧将与他的帮凶劳伦斯修士一起作为“恋童癖者”受到审判和关押。 劳伦斯修士肯定会被视为“虐待神父”,而德肖维茨为了安排恋人幽会的罪名,会从维罗纳教区收取一百万金币。 埃德加·爱伦·坡娶了一个 14 岁的孩子,如果现行法律生效,这位美国诗人会听到他的乌鸦在监狱里的“永不复存在”。 先知穆罕默德嫁给了九岁的艾莎,但圣经族长雅各布超越了他,嫁给了只有 7 岁的瑞秋。在我们的现代世界中,雅各布和穆罕默德会被追捕、引渡和监禁。 当面对今天开明的正义时,即使地位更高的人也可能过得不好:我们救主的母亲在天使报喜时只有 14 岁。

希腊传统认可愿意与成长中的男孩分享专业知识的成熟女性。 在希腊经典书籍中 达芙妮和克洛伊,一位经验丰富的成熟女士 Lycaenion 教年轻的 Daphnis 如何照顾他的女朋友——让他们彼此满意。 BBC 报道称,一名 26 岁的女教师在 被捕 与她 15 岁的学生发生性关系。 甚至检察官也承认,“每个小学生都梦想得到一个年轻、有吸引力的工作人员的这种关注”,但仍然要求定罪。 在美国, 帕梅拉·罗杰斯 因与像你我一样高的男孩发生性关系而被判入狱多年; 当时他可能只有 13 岁,但这恰好是我曾祖父结婚的确切年龄。 如果罗杰斯夫人专注于在情感上折磨和羞辱这个男孩,她肯定会在公共教育领域取得成功。 谁知道呢,她可能已经成为国务卿了。

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美国人和英国人发明了“法定强奸”这个荒谬的概念; 好像国家检察官比男孩和女孩更清楚他们想要什么。 伟大的法国思想家萨特和德里达、福柯和德波伏娃于 1977 年呼吁废除这个越狱陷阱,这种选择性起诉的工具。 聪明的西班牙人将同意年龄定为 13 岁,而更聪明的穆斯林则根本没有对结婚年龄设置限制,因为他们强烈反对婚外情。 犹太人受到塔木德的指导,其中规定女孩的允许结婚年龄为“三岁零一天”(尽管更安全的年龄是九岁),并且明智地禁止鸡奸。

事实上,几乎所有涉嫌虐待文书的案件都是同性恋; 所谓的受害者或许应该起诉侵扰教会的同性恋权利组织,而不是骚扰未能将他们拒之门外的教会。 但教会领袖甚至不允许考虑这样的建议。 他们不能说“恋童癖”; 他们必须假装这是“恋童癖”。 他们被禁止解除同性恋牧师的教职,以免被指控为“同性恋恐惧症”。

成年男子对小男孩或女孩的性暴力是一种令人厌恶的犯罪行为,但这种指控在虐待文书的历史上极为罕见。

我们不能对教会的苦难无动于衷,因为只有她才有可能将掠夺性的新犹太国家变成一个爱好和平的基督教国家。 教会肯定精神的首要地位,以及我们神圣的思考和繁殖能力; 这种充满希望的意见是我们世俗大师所憎恶的。 在最深层次上,教会是我们世界上邪恶的主要敌人。 世俗的人已经形成了一个相互竞争的教会,黑暗的教会,他们不会遭受竞争者的伤害。

虽说是霸道,但也不是万能的。 他们的咒语中没有魔法。 他们身后没有神通。 他们是骗子。 他们利用人类的古老神话,忘记了没有上帝就没有任何工作。 作为反叛上帝的人,他们将被击败。 作为江湖骗子,他们将被拆除。 他们的堕落迫在眉睫。 我们应该完全拒绝它们,就像我们在信仰告白中被呼召那样完全拒绝。

天主教会是巴勒斯坦最伟大的支持者之一。 他们有一位巴勒斯坦族长,他们竭尽全力保卫巴勒斯坦人民。 所有已建立的教会都支持巴勒斯坦; 以使徒教会为主导,而天主教徒经常领导他们。 在 2002 年犹太人围攻伯利恒期间,天主教会领导了抵抗。 我知道因为 我也抗拒. 曾几何时,教会率领十字军东征解放圣地。 凭借勇敢无私的精神,她可以领导和平远征并再次解放它。

法国曾与教会联合,达到了经济公平、社会成熟和道德操守的最高境界。 巴黎圣母院大火的可怕警告应该让法国人民震惊,让他们重返教堂的磐石,正如它必定会让教会在弥漫在她的墙壁上的“撒旦的烟雾”中醒来。

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  1. Rational 说:

    JEWISH SCHOLAR DR. SAMUEL BENJAMIN HARRIS

    主席先生,感谢您的文章。

    It is good the French burnt the Talmud, but the Talmud is simply commentary on the Torah.

    The root evil is the Torah (Old Testament) and they should have burnt that instead. Eg.

    “没有什么比《旧约》更具野蛮性了……。如申命记,利未记和出埃及记*这样的书。 相比之下,犹太作家塞缪尔·本杰明·哈里斯(Samuel Benjamin Harris)博士。

    *即摩西五经

    http://www.evilbible.com/do-not-ignore-the-old-testament/evils-of-the-torah/

    Re your point that: “We must not remain indifferent to the travails of the Church, for only She has the potential to turn the predatory neo-Judaic state into a peace-loving Christian one.”

    Sure, with the Christian bible saying that we must worship the Judaists as God’s chosen people, while they cut our throats, are cursed if we curse them, blessed if we bless them, it is going to solve our problem!

    It is like a man going to the criminal gang to investigate a crime the gang committed.

  2. The New Age began with a Millenarist mania for extracting Christ from his Hebrew background and integrating Him as another god or demigod into the pantheons of the ancient Pagan cults. The obsession with separating the Old Testament from the New Testament culminated in a long series of popular cults that ran the gamut from Puritan fundamentalism to Deists like Jefferson and his redacted version of the bible. When you let a dog off the chain there’s no telling where he will run.

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
  3. The terrible blaze in Paris should be an ominous warning for the French: Reconnect with your Church! Save Her and cherish Her

    The Roman Catholic Church in France, in common with all major denominations throughout the West, has utterly betrayed the people by embracing diversity and welcoming Islam. The people would be mad to save and cherish a church which has made itself their enemy.

    • 同意: Digital Samizdat
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  4. A123 说:

    Of course the #1 source of hate during the fire was Islam. Here is an example (1):

    “Allah Akbar, f**k France, f**k the pigs. Karma, now let’s destroy and build a mosque Inchalah,”

    Why does the author decide to ignore the comments of the many and focus only on a few odd balls?

    If you don’t want to believe me or the source I linked …. good for you. Score social media yourself. Search the tag stream #NotreDame for posters with names including the various spellings of Muhammad. Now repeat the process for various spellings of a classic Jewish name such as Bibi (Benjamin). Share your findings.

    I feel quite confident that any objective test will find a much higher HATE post count from Muslim names vs. Jewish ones.

    _____

    French gaming company Ubisoft is donating 1/2 million Euros for reconstruction and sharing a one of their games that has an extremely detailed model of the site (2).

    Christianity will overcome this loss and rise from the ashes stronger than before.

    _____

    (1) https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/allah-akbar-as-notre-dame-burned-muslims-celebrated-on-social-media

    (2) https://www.pcgamesn.com/assassins-creed-unity/notre-dame

  5. Anon[189]• 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    Maybe tourism has a degrading effect on culture.

    With air travel and globalism, tourism has gotten out of control.

    France has long had tourists and travelers, but what was once a drizzle turned into a downpour. When foreigners are always present around certain sites, they no longer feel very French. They always seem occupied by tourists. Sure, tourists spend money, and there is a certain prestige of cultural pride in drawing in so many people from around the world. But when there are so many and all the time, the people of the nation no longer feel their history and heritage belongs to them.

    Furthermore, many more boors and Uglobalists are now tourists, and they treat every part of the world like Disneyland.

  6. If a priest abuses a boy then the crime is his crime, not that of the Church.

    If the church is complicit in enabling and covering up the crime then indeed, the crime is that of the church.

  7. Giuseppe 说:

    If the church is complicit in enabling and covering up the crime then indeed, the crime is that of the church.

    Individuals are solely responsible for their own actions, collective guilt is a Marxist construct. Any individual within the Church complicit in enabling or covering up the crime is guilty of his own action.

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  8. Ma Laoshi 说:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Yes Mr. Shamir is being deliberately obtuse here. When one religion competes with another religion, the result is usually dishonesty all around. In structures with unaccountable power, which prioritize protecting their own tribe at the expense of truth and justice, such things are bound to happen again and again. Not that I’d want my son to contract herpes genitalis from a jewish mohel either.

  9. Brabantian 说:
    @A123

    It’s indeed interesting re the Notre Dame fire, what you can see online on Twitter etc – especially reading in French

    Seems Notre Dame is quite an item of SWPL (Stuff White People Like), not so much for other groups

    You see major cultural fault lines, a very sad kind of non-dialogue, showing how people live in different mental worlds

    Some Arabs are tweeting amusement, how they don’t care about this event, some how it’s time to build a mosque there, as noted above

    Some blacks are online talking about how selfish white people are, to care about an old building when black people are poor

    Some Jews say that the cathedral was built with money stolen from Jews, when the church burned the Jewish Talmud books in 1242, 777 years ago, as Shamir notes

    But Macron says he will re-build the cathedral to reflect France’s multi-cultural ‘diversity’ … Mosque as well on the property, plus a trans-gender cultural support centre too?

    -

    For those inclined to question the ‘official story’, Aangirfan on her site, has been running a large Notre Dame thread, of many of the suspicious things about this event, e.g., the former Notre Dame chief architect saying the cause of the fire was almost certainly not an ‘accident’, given the extra fuel needed to ignite 800-year-old, rock-like, petrified wood

    Indeed it’s curious how quickly they announced the ‘accident’ theory, whilst the fire was still raging and investigators could not even enter the area

    • 回复: @A123
    , @anon
    , @Miggle
  10. It’s inaccurate to think of any organization as a monolith. Every institution is a loose grouping of individuals who may or may not toe the line. Every corporation has its whistleblowers who buck the chain of command and bite the hands that feed them. Every family is a drama generator. Every army has its renegades and criminals. Theoretically there is a hierarchy that must be adhered to, but practically speaking the leaders are forced to use the carrot and stick to reap even a modicum of cooperation.

    Every general is feathering his own nest, and that’s true of his captains, his corporals and his sergeants. No one above private obeys an order unless its in his own interest to obey it. As soon as the going gets tough, the tough start looking for greener fields. Everyone is out for himself, more or less, and we ignore this fact to our own peril. When the ADL is building support for another law or war, they know that bullying politicians is like herding cats. Every cat has his particular fancy, some personal project or predilection that must be satisfied in order to buy compliance. They must be threatened. They must be cajoled.

    Thus it is with the Catholic Church. She may be supernatural in origin, but She is staffed with a loosely-networked motley crew of peculiar individuals. The Vatican may demand a sudden swing to the Left, pleasing Social Justice Warriors and Global Warming Fanatics, but She is dragging along 2000 years of Magisterium and no longer can turn on a dime. The local bishop might attempt to cover up a scandal to keep his flock happy and ignorant, but the bishop from a nearby diocese might make a few phone calls and expose the shenanigans. Western bishops have formed numerous support organizations such as the USCCB that are in open revolt against Vatican control. German bishops bend their knee to no man, but they grovel at the thought of the yearly Kirchensteuer.

    The Vatican is completely ignored by every priest in every corner of the world. Priests do what they like, and let the bishops beware. When we say something as foolish as, “the Roman Catholic Church has participated in the cover-up of Pedophile Priests”, we are not actually saying much of anything at all. The Catholic Church has a Roman Rite, this is true, but there is only one Church. Christ is not a polygamist and there is only one Bride of Christ. Certain bishops certainly cover up crimes in their diocese, but in all likelihood this is as far up the chain of command that the cover-up went. Other bishops, priests and lay may have lodged formal complaints about the bishop, but an investigation by the Vatican holds about as much power as the local bishop allows it; and it’s a rare person who cooperates with his own destruction, even if deserved. Finally, the crimes were clearly homosexual in nature, which is a far cry from Pedophilia and not illegal.

    “The Vatican knew and did nothing!” So goes the denunciations in the Press, giving new dimensions to hypocrisy. The Press is the champion of homosexuality. If it is not illegal for reporters to engage in sodomy then it is not illegal for bishops to sleep with seminarians. A traditional Catholic is deeply offended when any priest breaks his vows, but reporters are motivated by scandal, not theology. They are Pharisees beating their breasts about rampant crime and all the time trying to ignite a race war. Who should we blame if priests trade God for gayness? Should we blame the Church, Who opposes homosexuality for all people, or the modern marketers of homosexuality? Who penetrated who?

    If the Vatican did nothing it is because no one will allow it to do anything. If an American bishop is investigated by the Vatican for crimes against his flock, USCCB representatives will be on the next plane to quash it. The Vatican must tread lightly around their rebellious bishops. The greatest fear of anyone who ostensibly rules is that their subjects will begin to ignore the orders from the top. In the Church, this is known as Schism. In enlightened circles it is known that Schism is inevitable, and that both sides are simply maneuvering for stronger positioning. If the Church were stripped of Her homosexual priests not a diocese in the West could perform the Sacraments, and no one is ready for that.

    Except the reporters. They just want a juicy scandal.

  11. Polemos 说:
    @Giuseppe

    Do you think of Thomas Hobbes as a Marxist?

    Or what about Paul the Apostle?

    • 回复: @Giuseppe
  12. but catholic church doctrine cannot remain as it is..it is wrong and the church must be reformed. the same with all christian denominations.

    the doctrine of a supreme man in the sky is nonsense. and the story of Jesus is also tendentious and must be brought into line with truth and logic. belief and faith may play some role ultimately with the idea of god but it must be logical. if there is to be belief belief must start where logic ends

    but the church as bulwark against evil I agree with. the church as source of democracy, humanity, fair play. defense of the weak from the strong a place of communion with the spirit of the universe, the spirit of nature of which we are all a part, came out of is fine by me.

    to really go forward the church must first go back and correct itself historically, clean up its racism and bring doctrine into line with what we now know to be true. and indeed that is the only way Christianity is going to defeat the Judaic devil, bring that Satan spawn into line with normal life, integrated among humanity as part of..not superior over and above

    Christianity has not defeated the Satan because it too has played with Satan, in permeated by the evil itself, lie to the people, is in tune with exploitative society..Capitalism, preparing the people people for their exploitation by the very Satan itself. there are enough Christian denominations leading ordinary people astray in droves, in the process of fattening their own pockets. the Church, Christianity is hierarchical and exploitative itself. Christianity will never defeat the devil for it to is devilish. until Christianity cleans itself up, reforms itself by doctrine, brings itself into line with truth and the true spiritual needs of the people it will never defeat he Judiac Satan..will likely be subsumed but that Satan and become full, totally the enemy of the people as well

    • 同意: Druid
  13. Giuseppe 说:
    @Polemos

    Assigning collective guilt is morally repugnant and I don’t care if you want to call it Marxist, Hobbesian or Pauline.

    • 回复: @Polemos
  14. A123 说:
    @Brabantian

    Indeed it’s curious how quickly they announced the ‘accident’ theory, whilst the fire was still raging and investigators could not even enter the area

    Macron does seem to be going out of his way to spike an investigation. Almost as if he has something to hide…. So have to ask:

    - Did MACRON Start the Fire? -

    He certainly is #1 in terms of “Motivation” for such a crime. The fire:

    -1- Diverts attention from the Yellow Vest / Christian Populist movement.
    -2- Increases his poll numbers (1).
    -3- Allows him to obey his Soros/Globalist masters — An attempt to replace a powerful Christian symbol with one rooted in dhimmi Multiculturalism.

    Hopefully the Catholic Church will insist on a full & independent investigation lead by Vatican officials. It’s the only way to reach a result that will be credible. Unfortunately, the current Pope is so befuddled that he may roll-over for Macron.

    _____

    (1) https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1116805/macron-news-Notre-dame-fire-yellow-vest-protest-paris-police

    • 回复: @anonymous
  15. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Rational

    Sure, with the Christian bible saying that we must worship the Judaists as God’s chosen people,

    The Christian bible, i.e. the New Testament says no such thing. It’s been 55 years since my confirmation, but the message at the time was that Christians were the chosen people through the new covenant. The “chosen people” broke the covenant and were un-chosen.

    • 回复: @anarchyst
  16. TKK 说:

    This article needs an editor. He is literally stringing together paragraphs with no transitions. Just big blobs of Jew hysteria.

    He must know his audience so well here that he knows this garbage will be gobbled up like cake as long as he panders, notwithstanding reading it is as enjoyable as a root canal.

    Compare it to Joe Bob Briggs work. An actual writer, not a ham fisted proselytizer for Islam.

    • 同意: Fran Taubman
    • 回复: @Druid
    , @AnonStarter
  17. anonymous[375]• 免责声明 说:
    @A123

    The Church doesn’t own the Cathedral. It is property of the French State. Church assets were seized during the revolution.

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  18. Anon[204]• 免责声明 说:

    It sounds almost as if Israel Shamir approves of pedophilia. Jacob and Muhammad should indeed both be thrown in jail for marrying 7 and 9 year old girls, that’s why both Judaism and Islam are such F up religions. And he thinks it’s okay for grown 20 something female teachers to have sex with their 13 and 15 year old male students? That is F up!

    While I agree that we should not fault the failure of the priests on the religion itself, the Catholic church does have to bear some responsibility for the cover up of the abusive homosexual priests, as well as other wrongs in the past and present. The extreme corruption of the church in the past was what led to the Protestant Reformation by Martin Luther. But even today, it is hard sometimes for me to not be upset with the church for some of the things they are doing, such as sponsoring Muslim refugees for \$10k a pop, sheltering illegal immigrants, and helping to bus in the illegals marching in from Central America. And why is the church supporting the Palestinians? Why is Pope Francis meddling in America’s immigration policy by calling for open borders? I think the church needs to stick to the salvation of whoever walks through its doors, instead of trying to play politics. It is not their place.

    • 回复: @Fran Taubman
    , @Daniel Rich
  19. Anon[394]• 免责声明 说:

    Happy Passover, Jew-worshipers!

    Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 1 Co. 5.7

    Now me, I’m celebrating pre-jewsus Ēostre, with my European ancestors’ symbols of fertility like colored eggs and rabbits, instead of perverted Abrahamic human sacrifice.

    • 回复: @Seraphim
  20. I like an uncompromising writer who fearlessly skewers what passes for current wisdom.

    • 回复: @Gordon Pratt
    , @fenestol
  21. turtle 说:

    The embers were not even cold when we were subjected to the “expert” opinion of a Jewess from L.A. as to how the French Roman Catholics should rebuild *他们的* 大教堂。

    https://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-notre-dame-fire-rebuild-science-engineering-20190417-story.html

    Cohen herself favors an approach that recognizes the building’s relevance in the 21st century rather than hewing to plans that go back to the 1100s. In practical terms, that would mean not replicating the iconic spire designed by Eugene Emmanuel Viollet-le-Duc in the mid-1800s, though it might be replaced with something new.

    “A carbon copy is a false history because you can’t re-create the past,” she said. “It would still have a completion date of 2019.”

    No doubt she would like to see something butt-ugly on the site, designed by her fellow tribesman Daniel Libeskind, complete with a large menorah at the highest point.

    我要说的是:
    Too bad, c*unt.
    STFU and 对接. It is none of your God-damned business.
    If you want to talk about “false history,” how about we visit certain structures in Poland which were built in 1947, or thereabouts, and are now passed off to gullible tourists as dating to before 1945.

    • 回复: @Digital Samizdat
    , @anon
  22. Wally 说:

    Shamir said:

    “This was the practice of the Third Reich as well: before starting the war, they began a timely campaign of ‘priests as sex fiends’ to bully the church into silent acquiescence”

    Germany did not start the war, the US, Britain & France did.

    推荐的:
    罗斯福密谋发起欧洲第二次世界大战: https://www.unz.com/article/roosevelt-conspired-to-start-world-war-ii-in-europe/

    戴维·欧文的杰出史学: https://www.unz.com/announcement/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/

    第二次世界大战的责任: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7544

    http://www.codoh.com

    • 回复: @Saggy
  23. anon[250]• 免责声明 说:
    @Brabantian

    Some blacks are online talking about how selfish white people are, to care about an old building when black people are poor

    lol “feed me honky cracker”

  24. Willem 说:

    ‘We must not remain indifferent to the travails of the Church, for only She has the potential to turn the predatory neo-Judaic state into a peace-loving Christian one’

    That is a big brush man. Why does only The Church have this potential?

    The statement is also obviously a non-sensical statement, since neo-Judaic and Christian are meaningless words, i.e. they can mean anything: just ask GW Bush.

    But I am sure we are all peace loving.

    The problem is not religion, it never was, the problem is this: people love things and use people.

    You may ask: which people love things and use people? For starters, those who are rich enough to donate millions to rebuild the Notre Dame but never did anything to reduce global inequality, as that it is the way how they were able to make their millions and billions in the first place. That is what needs to be changed.

  25. blue wolf 说:

    For anyone reading this: know that “Israel Shamir” is controlled opposition!! He feigns to denounce Israel, Zionism etc…But is actually the opposite. I wouldn’t trust any of his writings…This one above is even very confusing (on purpose of course) for readers who wouldn’t be quite aware of the situation.

    • 回复: @Saggy
    , @Polemos
  26. Wantoknow 说:

    This kind of tail chasing needs to pass into oblivion. All the monotheisms are evil and should pass into history. But the problem is that they are all reflective of the evil that is humanity.

    The entire planetary population deserves a jailer who would send them all into solitary confinement. But then who would be the jailer and what would become of him when all the inmates die of boredom for lack of someone to criticize and condemn?

  27. @Anon

    What has really pushed tourism over the edge has been the rise of social media, especially of image-focused apps like Instagram and Snapchat. Because of the self-obsession they foster, the destination no longer is even necessarily the goal for a lot of these tacky creeps. The Eiffel Tower, the Leaning Tower of Pisa, Mt. Fuji, the Hollywood sign, etc are all simply frames in which to exhibit the eternal self for a global audience of fellow exhibitonists. No longer is the goal is visit and experience these places, but to be 看到 at them, to convert destination into a mere appendage of the self.

  28. swamped 说:

    “A little advice: dismiss the alleged victims of last century’s clerical abuse. Send them home. I do not feel sorry for these late claimants. Why did they wait 20 years to complain? Children who are attacked scream and run home to parents and police. If they didn’t run and scream, it wasn’t an attack. Chalk it up to a clumsy pass by a pathetic amateur; an unpleasant, shameful experience to be sure, but one unlikely to be repeated with a firm rebuke. Blame yourself for sending mixed signals, and go on with your life”. ..absolutely despicable! Children who are attacked are CHILDREN!They may weep & sob in shame & fear, too terrorized to say anything. Their claims must be investigated & verified whenever they surface since such egregious crimes often go well beyond “an unwanted kiss or an undesired embrace.”
    “The laws should be reasonable…and 24 hours… to lodge a formal complaint”…would enable most such terrible crimes to go unpunished!The Catholic Church is FOREVER “stained by the foul deeds committed[by] Her servants. If a priest abuses a boy then the crime is his crime” AND “that of the Church” which let it happen & tried to cover it up! Likewise, if a soldier shoots an unarmed protestor, it is the fault of the soldier & the IDF!If the Huguenots had won four centuries ago, these terrible deeds wouldn’t have happened.This is a Catholic problem, not to be confused with a Christian one!

    • 回复: @Hibernian
    , @Robjil
  29. @A123

    Might be because one group is counted in Billions and the other in Millions

  30. Or as sometimes inicated in history, buildings catch fire,

    Sometimes those buildings, have social significance. Sometimed not. Whether God is the deliberate actor – in said events – is a tricky call.

    Ecclesiastes I think it is he said the rain falls on the just and the unjust.

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  31. Excuse the double post– unintentional.

    The cathedral was under renovation and repair it would not be unlikely for there to be chemicals of a flammable nature in vicinity of the work. Anything is possible

    however is it likely that is another matter.

    Hardly a major sign of war against christians, not as significant as having to bake cake cakes for same sex ceremonies.

  32. j2 说:

    Thanks for the article. There is an attack on Christianity and it mainly targets the Catholic Church. This attack has been going on in certain circles for 400 years, but recently the attacks have got stronger. It is extremely likely that they derive from the usual source as most of these issues.

    • 回复: @anarchyst
    , @Nonny
  33. @A123

    The ideology of Islam is not anti-Christian. The Ashtiname of Muhammad demonstrates that. That Muslims react to centuries of Western crusades in their lands through their principle of collective self defense – jihad (only difference with international law is that members of the Ummah being attacked do not need to ask for help), is only to be expected. And that they attack members of the electorate in democratic countries, whilst reprehensible like all violence, is logical – the population is political and potent.

    The Jewish ideology however is fascistic and violently anti-Christian, to its core. There is no question about this.

    So, with Muslims, you have either a reaction to Western violence that breeds hate, and/or misrepresentation of the faith which breeds hate.

    With Jews you have no reaction to Western violence – in fact you have Christian support, yet still hate, and an accurate and pious practice of their faith, that is hate.

    With the Muslims, errors within the understanding of ideology must be corrected. With the Jews, the ideology itself must be corrected.

    • 回复: @Druid
  34. Vojkan 说:

    Notre-Dame is anyway an incongruity in a Paris riddled with free-masonic monuments, from the all-seeing eye represented by the Arch of La Défense to the unchained, torch of “illuminating” fire holding “Angel of Liberty” looking down on Paris from the top of the Bastille column.
    The effort to de-Christianise France hasn’t started yesterday and it isn’t a Jewish shtick at the origin. That effort has been in full throttle mode since the French Revolution and it is more a Lucifer disguised as Prometheus worshipping free-masons’ effort than a Jewish effort. Jews only used it to their own benefit.
    Though Jewish omnipresence in French media, entertainment, justice system, academia, less so in the political class, indeed has a very negative influence on French self-consciousness, national continuity and traditional French freedom of speech, the problem in France is much deeper. Remove the Jews and you’ll see the problem doesn’t go away.

    • 回复: @Digital Samizdat
    , @yurivku
  35. I wonder what the coverage would have been if a prominent Christian cleric had glorified in the destruction of a prominent mosque – let alone synagogue? Shamir is always thought provoking and he’s right to highlight the Talmudic hostility to Christianity. However, he did not help his article by digressing into belittling the RC abuse cases. OK, Yes Yes, I agree they’ve been highlighted and exploited by the enemies of Christianity ( or rather Christian western heritage in general), but many abuse cases were real enough and he evidently has no understanding of the long term trauma they can inflict. The Church did not help itself by sweeping them under the carpet (-and maybe this in itself was done by those who’ve infiltrated the Church to destroy it from within? There is certainly a case to answer). Shamir could have pointed out the number of abuse cases by rabbis – where the crimes are not only swept under the carpet but those who complain silenced while anyone seeking to highlight them is labelled an ‘anti Semite’ – inevitably – as with any critics of Jews or Israel. Better still if Shamiyr ended his article with:

    ” On the deepest level the Church is the main adversary of evil in our world. The worldlings have formed a competing church of sorts, the church of darkness, and they will not suffer a competitor.

    Dominant as they are, they are not omnipotent. There is no magic in their incantations. They have no divine powers behind them. They are impostors. They exploit the old myths of mankind, forgetting that nothing works without God. As rebels against God, they will be defeated. As charlatans they will be dismantled. Their fall is imminent.”

    The non practising Christians among us may not agree, but his words are supremely eloquent and uplifting.

  36. Anonymous [AKA“ Anon371”] 说:
    @wayfarer

    Agree wholeheartedly. Woke up today, Easter morning, with the news that 8 Catholic churches were attacked in Sri Lanka during Easter services, 160 killed.

    I suspect the anti-Catholic attacks will only intensify for some time, but the Church will never be defeated.

    I highly recommend a book titled “My Heart Will Triumph” by Mirjana Soldo.

    In the meantime strap in, it’s going to be a bit of a bumpy ride.

    • 回复: @wayfarer
  37. Anonymous[902]• 免责声明 说:
    @Rational

    ‘It is good the French burnt the Talmud, but the Talmud is simply commentary on the Torah.

    The root evil is the Torah (Old Testament) and they should have burnt that instead. Eg.’

    No the Talmud is the written down version of the made up man made laws that Jesus condemned. It really is filled with hate speech (judaisms strange gods Michael Hoffman) and even the positive parts of the old testament that Chriatians might relate to are negated and twisted by the talmud and its scholars so much so that if you bring up a random portion of the old testament an orthodox Jew will not know what you are talking about.

  38. @Rational

    “Christian???”
    ------------
    I care nothing for the judaicized “Christian” so-called churches.

  39. Blake 说:
    @A123

    Fallen for the oldest trick in the book if you believe that was an actual Muslim saying that very illiterate nonsense. I bet the IP address leads back to the racist settler colony occupying Palestinian soil – or one of its sayanim in the west inciting hatred to divide east and west. Zionist machinations it is.

    • 同意: Moi
  40. Hibernian 说:

    “With a brave and selfless spirit She could lead a Crusade of Peace and free it again.”

    Transform the Jewish State surrounded by Arab Muslims into a Christian State surrounded by Arab Muslims? Mr. Shamir, you’ve apparently taken advantage of newly legalized recreational marijuana!

  41. Anonymous[138]• 免责声明 说:

    We should act as human beings, not Bonobo chimps.

    If someone is erotically attracted by a young child and succumbs to these urges, then this means that this person is acting as a Bonobo chimp, not a human being.

    A human is first and foremost different from a chimp by reason and wisdom.

    If he has not enough reason to understand that a young child is not a proper object of sexual desire, then a human being is not so human after all.

    Siddhartha Gautama was born a human, but he transcended humanity and became the Awakened.

    Jacob and Muhammad were born human, but they left their reason rot and acted as their Bonobo chimp cousins…

    • 回复: @Moi
  42. Hibernian 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “Ecclesiastes I think it is he said the rain falls on the just and the unjust.”

    That is a warning to those who are at least trying to be just and succeeding to some extent that life is not fair. It is not a call for indifference.

    • 回复: @EliteCommInc.
  43. Hibernian 说:
    @swamped

    Calvinists winning is not a panacea. It led to almost 350 years of oppression in the land of 5/8 of my forbears.

  44. anarchyst 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    将犹太教与基督教联系在一起是犹太人用来“粘合”他们对“以色列土地”和《盟约》的主张的一个巧妙技巧,对此我要回答:“上帝不是房地产经纪人”。
    犹太人谋杀耶稣基督时就拒绝了盟约。 他们与上帝的约于那时是“无效的”。
    正是由于Schofield对圣经的翻译有缺陷,犹太人才升为基督教的“哥哥”,1960年代天主教(有缺陷的)“梵蒂冈二世大公会议”进一步加强了犹太人的地位。
    当我听到好心人谈论犹太教-基督教徒的传承时,我会感到畏缩。
    没有东西会离事实很远。
    基督教和犹太教之间的唯一共同点是十诫,仅此而已。
    犹太教的上帝是一个复仇的上帝,完全不同于慈悲而热情的基督教上帝。
    基督教欢迎所有人,无论其国籍或社会地位如何,都不是犹太教的真理。
    犹太教是一个孤立的信仰体系,它规避外来者,禁止宗教化,促进至高无上的地位,使所有外邦人(非犹太人)沦为具有灵魂的牲畜亚人类地位,仅用于提高犹太人的利益。
    犹太人谋杀了耶稣基督。 可悲的是,即使是现在的(梵二大公会议)天主教已经买进了免除犹太人耶稣基督的谋杀。 与往常一样,犹太人让其他人,罗马人为他们做肮脏的工作,耶稣基督被钉十字架。 基督徒怎样才能拥有与犹太人相同的价值观? 谴责并背叛了基督教的创始人耶稣基督并呼吁处决他的人(当然,这是通过犹太人的方式)。 这绝对没有任何意义。 犹太人不尊重基督教,也没有尊重耶稣基督或他的母亲玛丽,他们在伊斯兰教中都被尊为先知,但犹太人随口吐口水,并在通过任何形式的基督徒或基督教教会时都这样做。以色列。 他们不尊重基督徒或任何其他宗教。
    现在是犹太人的游说团体和美国政府领导人以及福音派基督教领袖,他们误导了可怜的美国年轻人加入军队,并认为他们为打击以色列的战争为上帝和基督教做点什么,被羞辱和逮捕,试图叛国。

    • 回复: @Alden
  45. anarchyst 说:
    @j2

    参与天主教的“现代化”的犹太人和新教徒渗透了1960年代的梵蒂冈第二世大公会议,这标志着传统天主教的终结。
    尽管反映了犹太人对耶稣基督和基督教的仇恨,但为了反映我们所生活的“年龄”以及促进犹太人为耶稣基督被钉十字架和死而赦免,许多天主教仪式和教义被丢弃或改变。到今天为止。 事实是,犹太人DID使罗马人将耶稣基督钉在十字架上,而DID对耶稣基督的被钉死和死亡承担全部责任。 就像今天的情况一样,他们让其他人(庞蒂斯·彼拉多)为他们做“肮脏的工作”……
    在大众中放弃使用拉丁语破坏了其普遍性。 在梵蒂冈二世之前,人们可以在罗马天主教世界的任何地方参加弥撒,并了解弥撒的含义。
    总体上,禁止庆祝三叉戟弥撒(除非获得特别教会许可)使许多天主教徒远离了新摩登弥撒和新教堂。 大胆的勒夫弗勒大主教和圣庇护十世协会推翻了“反对梵蒂冈二世”的行列,并重新合法化了梵蒂冈二世以前的三叉戟弥撒和其他天主教仪式的庆祝活动。
    在梵蒂冈二世以前的时代,牧师(群众的传教士)被认为是教会的一部分,也是人民的代表。
    通过让牧师转身面对会众,牧师不再是代表,而是演员,削弱了他的地位和重要性。
    天主教可以改善自身的领域之一是独身主义,而不是教会教条或教义。 为了防止教会财产被牧师和主教的亲戚和亲属继承,中世纪实行了独身统治。 独身是基于纯粹的财务考虑,仅此而已。 有趣的是,convert依天主教的主教(英国人)牧师可以将家人带到教堂,而罗马天主教神父被拒绝结婚。
    使梵蒂冈二世以前的原则合法化是教会的一个严重错误。
    幸运的是,有一些天主教组织赞同梵蒂冈二世以前的原则,其中一个就是圣庇护十世协会(SSPX)。

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  46. Hibernian 说:
    @anonymous

    And Napoleon so very graciously gave the Church a rent free leasehold on the church buildings. He couldn’t bring himself to return the stolen property.

  47. @Vojkan

    Free Masonism was always a Jewish project right from the start. Why do you think one of the first things the French revolutionaries (Masons) did was to extend citizenship and voting rights to the Jews? Why do you think our first president, George Washington (Mason), wrote the Jews of Rhode Island a personal letter, welcoming them to America and assuring them of full and equal citizenship? Why? Because the advancement of Ashkenazic Jewry was always the principle purpose of Masonism. Whether they knew it or not, the “lost temple of the East” that the Masons were said to be slowly ‘rebuilding’ (hence their name) was actually another temple in Jerusalem–Zionism!

    • 同意: Mulegino1
    • 回复: @j2
  48. Miggle 说:
    @Brabantian

    e.g., the former Notre Dame chief architect saying the cause of the fire was almost certainly not an ‘accident’, given the extra fuel needed to ignite 800-year-old, rock-like, petrified wood

    Does wood, kept dry under a roof, really turn into stone in 800 years? Become non-combustible?

    I’d like to see a reference to a scientific paper reporting and explaining that strange phenomenon, the petrification of wood.

    And if it only means “extra fuel” needed: extra relative to what? Wasn’t there enough? How does he know?

    • 回复: @Miggle
  49. Anonymous [又名“Annon4”] 说:

    Ironic, I think, given the references to the Talmud burning at Notre Dame, that the Archbishop of Paris from 1981-2005 was actually a Jew who converted to Catholicism and became a Roman Catholic priest (Jean-Marie Lustiger).

  50. Miggle 说:
    @Miggle

    Okay, extra relative to the wood itself. It will burn in a fire, if there’s a fire, but can’t itself be set on fire. I guess that’s what’s meant.

    Still, the architect’s assertion seems a little strange to me.

    • 回复: @Alden
  51. Saggy 说: • 您的网站
    @Wally

    Germany did not start the war, the US, Britain & France did.

    Good catch. It’s a long story, and I have a long write up I’ll add to the codoh thread at some point, it’s in the form of a gmail post to McGraw Hill – who write ‘Hitler was ready to conquer Europe’ in their Traditions and Encounters high school history text. They have a procedure for submitting corrections but have not yet responded to my detailed rebuttal of that idiotic statement. Ahh, I’m trying to think of a short teaser and I have it ….. the book …
    ‘Left Wings Over Europe, or How to Start a War About Nothing’ by British man of letters Wyndham Lewis written in 1936 ...

    就英国而言,在1936年,没有人与任何人发生战争的阴影。 这是因为没有具体的原因需要思考和提出抽象的原因。

    民族主义可能会被不同形式的政治结构之间,议会制,法西斯主义和布尔什维克主义之间的问题所取代。 …。 议员制和布尔什维克主义似乎彼此之间有着非同寻常的亲和力,只要他们除了被法西斯主义的同等仇恨所吞噬外,别无其他原因。

    没有英国政治家曾希望与德国开战。 但是他们显然已经开始认为自己致力于采取暴力决心摆脱欧洲的希特勒政策。 他们深知,如果没有另一场世界大战的危险,这是不可能实现的。 不是让他们兴奋的是“法西斯专政”,因为毕竟他们离开墨索里尼完全和平了十年。 独裁统治本身也没有使他们如此兴奋—甚至伴随着永久的恐怖统治和数百万人的屠杀。 对于苏维埃,俄罗斯一直保持不受干扰。 不,只能是关于阿道夫·希特勒内部政权的某种刺激,使他们产生了这种顽固的情绪。

    弗兰科-苏维埃条约已经获得批准,很可能在不久的将来签署鲁苏诺-苏维埃条约,这与苏联和捷克斯洛伐克之间的军事条约是一致的。 奥地利政府(仅占奥地利人民的一小部分)似乎正在与“小协约”朝着一个协约迈进。 因此,“包围”的游戏继续进行:所有这些安排-在每种情况下都是在头顶上进行并且通常与人民的意愿相抵触-成为可能,并受到英国和法国黄金的不断刺激。 我从《晨报》上引述的言论,以通俗的语言来说,是指英国即将武装苏维埃对德国。 (图卡切夫斯基元帅在乔治国王的葬礼后到英国停下脚步,前往英国的军备工厂捡拾坦克和枪支。)一直有谣传英国向法国提供了五千万英镑的贷款。 用简单的语言来说,这也是英国武装法国反对“匈奴”

    在一个国家里,英国人肯定会受到热烈欢迎:在一个国家里,政府永不停止奉献友谊,保持包容和礼貌,那就是德国。 年复一年,希特勒先生像病友般的恳求者,将自己的宫廷交给了傲慢的不列颠尼亚人。 即使是足智多谋的丘吉尔先生也可以发明出每一种侮辱,温柔地吞噬鲍德温先生的每一次拒绝,伊甸园先生的每一次冷笑,都会被这个有胆识的求婚者温柔地接受!

    • 回复: @Wally
  52. Saggy 说: • 您的网站

    What an extraordinary article, and I didn’t even read most of it …. but I did click on the link …

    https://www.srugim.co.il/332395-%D7%94%D7%90%D7%9D-%D7%99%D7%A9-%D7%9C%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A8-%D7%A2%D7%9C-%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%90%D7%9D

    which links to the article by rabbi Aviner …. google translate will translate to English – this is medieval Judaism today … an incredible red pill for Judaism … I can’t believe it will be allowed to stand, so I copied the site ….

  53. Hibernian 说:
    @anarchyst

    “Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its universality.”

    I’m old enough to remember it. The language wasn’t universal because nobody but the priests and maybe a few others such as my Dad (a former seminarian) could understand any of the Latin beyond a few basics such as “Dominus vobiscum,” “Et cum spiritu tuo,” etc. We understood (kinda, sorta) what was going on due to our instruction in Catholic school or CCD class and the availability of bilingual English/Latin missals.

    • 回复: @anarchyst
    , @ploni almoni
  54. Saggy 说: • 您的网站
    @blue wolf

    For anyone reading this: know that “Israel Shamir” is controlled opposition!!

    This reminds me of the line by B.B. King …

    Nobody loves me but my mother,
    And she could be jivin too

  55. Robjil 说:
    @swamped

    The Catholic Church used to have a voice against war. It had Thomas Merton in the 1960s who was a great voice against war. A lot of the allegations of child abuse or sex abuse that come up decades later after the incidents may be planted memories to stop the Church from speaking up against war.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/false-memory-syndrome-false-confessions-memories

    “Loftus’s involvement in the case spurred her to pioneer research into false memory. In the 80s and 90s, she’d become intrigued by an upsurge in allegations of sexual abuse. The idea of repressed-memory theory was gaining traction at the time in alternative practices such as hypnotherapy and psychotherapy. Patients were encouraged to embrace visualising techniques, hypnotism and their imaginations to access repressed memories, which were usually pinpointed as violent sexual and physical abuse during childhood. “You began to see hundreds of people coming forward, saying that they had recovered repressed memories of massive brutalisation that they’d been completely unaware of,” Loftus says. “I saw that something really big was going on here. It seemed that richly detailed whole memories were being planted into the minds of ordinary people [in therapy].”

    Thomas Merton’s strange death was most likely an assassination. A recent book by Hugh Turley and David Martin proves it most likely to be so. :

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/04/28/speaking-the-unspeakable-the-assassination-and-martyrdom-of-thomas-merton/

    “This is an extraordinary book in so many ways. First, because the authors prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Trappist monk and anti-war writer Thomas Merton was assassinated and did not die in a fabricated accident, as has been claimed for all these years.

    Second, because it is so meticulously researched, sourced, documented, and logically argued that it puts to shame and the lie to so many works, including academic ones, that purport to be profound but fall apart once carefully inspected, especially all those that have been written about Merton and his alleged accidental death.

    These false accounts of his death, obviously presented purposely by the key players – that he was electrocuted by a fan while wet from a shower – have been repeated ad nauseam over fifty years as if curiosity were reserved for cats and a writer’s job were to repeat commonplace absurdities. And of course the mainstream media, the prime organs of propaganda dissemination, have carried out their function by repeating these lies at every turn. ”

    Why was he assassinated? He was against the war machine that US/Israel were creating in the 1960s which has grown to the massive monster of the two terrorizing our entire planet with impunity. The Catholic Church today is silenced with endless massive planted memory allegations every time that the Catholic Church attempts to speak up against war. “Never Again speak up” against the warmongers of the US/Israel empire is the mantra of our times. Here is good overview of how and why he assassinated.

    “Thomas Merton (Fr. Lewis) was a Catholic monk, poet, writer and theologian who became very well-known in 1948 with the publication of his autobiography, The Seven Story Mountain, which became a bestseller.

    Over the next dozen or so years, he published many books on religious themes, mainly avoiding social or political subjects. But although he lived in a monastery, and eventually by himself in a hermitage nearby, he corresponded widely and was tuned in to worldly events. He became a friend and mentor to religious/political activists such as Martin Luther King, Fathers Philip and Daniel Berrigan, James Douglass, among many others. He was a friend of Dorothy Day of the Catholic Worker. He corresponded with Boris Pasternak and Ethel Kennedy; wrote about Albert Camus and Eugene Ionesco.

    During the 1960s his writing turned more overtly political while remaining rooted in a deep mystical and contemplative spirituality. He became a major inspiration for radical activists who opposed nuclear weapons, the Vietnam War, and the materialist way of life fostered by capitalism that relied on the spread of the American empire through world-wide violence.

    Although living far away from the din and drama of day-to-day politics, his writing, encouragement, and influence were profound, and he became a major impediment to the propaganda and policies of the military-industrial-political-intelligence complex. He was an inspiration whose spirit disturbed church and state in the most radical way. Turley and Martin say of him:

    Contrary to the common view, there is really no mystery about how Merton died. The best evidence indicates beyond any serious doubt that Merton was murdered. It’s a simple fact that the average person is far more likely to be murdered than to be killed by an electric fan, and Merton was no average person. The story that a fan killed Merton is so preposterous that a series of fantastic stories have had to be invented to make it believable….Who did it and why? The CIA had the motive and the means. 1968: It was a very dark year: MLK, RFK, and Thomas Merton – martyrs all.”

    • 回复: @Republic
  56. Mulegino1 说:

    Today’s Jews are ready to act as a collective in order to collect, but not to pay.

    Unfortunately, a plurality of contemporary Christians do just the opposite- out of a false equation of masochism and the acceptance of collective guilt which they confound with true Christianity. Such notions have been ingrained in them by the constant whine of the litigious Talmudic demon.

    Talmudism is the essence of the Jewish identity, and, as I have written several times, it is nothing more than the sacralization of ethnocentric psychopathy and Jewish collective self-worship. And Zionism is Talmudism in political and military action, even if most of the original Zionists were atheists. The Talmud is not about God but about circumventing Him.

    Most Christians appear to be under the totally erroneous impression that Judaism is about ethical monotheism, funny hats and shouts of “Mazel Tov!” It just such naivete and ignorance that is laying the foundations of their total servitude.

  57. Budd Dwyer [AKA "Anthony P."] 说:
    @NoseytheDuke

    I worked as a background investigator for a government agency. My gut tells about 70% of the allegations of clergy sexual abuse are bogus. Another 20% inappropriate to very inappropriate behavior (grabbing buttocks) and about 10% legit. But of that 10% you largely have ephebophilia (adolescents) with homosexual clergy.

    I worked Boston as a investigator with badge & creds. and I’m personally knowledgeable about the scandal there. Most people think the scandal in Boston (portrayed in Spotlight) involved lots and lots of priests. A large part of the story involved just eight priests, including a priest (Hanlon) that was already in prison a decade before Spotlight and another (Geoghan) who was already defrocked before Spotlight, and yet another (Shanley) who had left the priesthood and was running a gay B & B with his boyfriend in California before Spotlight. Mind you, the Spotlight story focused on a handful of bad priests out of thousands who have served there.

    I think most of the clergy sex abuse scandal is about extracting large amounts of money which is in turn fueled by a relentless propaganda campaign against the Catholic Church in news, entertainment, politics, academia, et al. It is not a coincidence that Boston was chosen for this exposé as Boston was the heart of American Catholicism. It also not a coincidence that the guy who initiated this was Marty Baron, who started developing this story immediately after arriving from the Miami Herald.

    I’m not sure how the Catholic Church can survive this concerted effort to destroy it. It is like The anti-Trump or Trump-Russia propaganda times a million, over decades if not centuries. The opposition to the Catholic Church/Christianity has found an effective wrecking ball and they will use it until the Church is pulverized and banned.

    E. Michael Jones has a good take on it and agree with him:

    • 同意: anarchyst, Robjil
    • 回复: @Iris
    , @FB
    , @anon
    , @NoseytheDuke
  58. FB 说: • 您的网站

    Unfortunate religious fanaticism by Shamir…I guess pedophile priests never happened…?…a monstrous, decades long cult of homosexuality and child sexual abuse entrenched in the Catholic clergy is now just a figment of our imagination…?

  59. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Budd Dwyer

    I don’t buy your baloney…anybody can come on here and propoagate for a particular agenda…the child abuse in the Catholic church is about a lot more than Boston…it’s global…and it’s been going on for a very long time…homosexuality is very likely a very old and established tradition in the priesthood due to the prohibition against marriage…it’s not necessary and other major religions don’t have any such thing…including Protestant and Orthodox Christianity, Judaism or Islam…

  60. Wally 说:
    @Saggy

    “希特勒不会有战争,但他将被迫参加,不是今年,而是以后……”(《犹太人的埃米尔·路德维希》,《年鉴》,1934 年 XNUMX 月)

    Truth hurts those who benefit from lies.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • 回复: @anon
  61. @Fran Macadam

    You said it all, Fran.

    Happy Easter to you , the authors Israel Shamir and Paul Bennett, and to all their readers.

  62. @Rational

    Sure, with the Christian bible saying that we must worship the Judaists as God’s chosen people, while they cut our throats, are cursed if we curse them, blessed if we bless them, it is going to solve our problem!

    What the Bible really says about Jews;

    You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men, hindering us from telling the Gentiles how they may be saved. As a result, they continue to heap up their sins to full capacity; the utmost wrath has come upon them

    帖撒罗尼迦1:2

  63. anarchyst 说:
    @Hibernian

    I beg to differ on the language of the Latin Mass not being “universal”. I maintain that it WAS universal, as one could go anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and hear the same Latin Mass. Of course, the Gospel and other aspects of the Mass would be in the vernacular, but the celebratory parts of the Mass WERE “universal”.
    问候,

  64. fenestol 说:
    @Fran Macadam

    Yes, and in an insane world, I fully expect that he will be prosecuted for the crime of sanity.

  65. anon[958]• 免责声明 说:
    @turtle

    STFU and butt out. It is none of your God-damned business.

    究竟

    jews are not of us, so why they feel entitled to judge us, our culture and our history at every opportunity?

    change is coming and jews aren’t going to like it

  66. anon[958]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wally

    hey Wally, CODOH got a mention by Mike Enoch on The Right Stuff radio about a week ago

    would be great if you or someone from CODOH could be a guest on that show

    • 回复: @Wally
  67. Anon[276]• 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    Imagine if every time someone complained about white people or America, he or she was shouted down as ‘anti-white’ or ‘anti-American’. If white people or America are beyond criticism and reproach, it would mean they are like gods and above human standards.

    The problem with the cult of ‘antisemitism’ is it deifies Jews as a god-people who are so holy, wise, and awesome that we must never criticize or denounce them even for bad behavior.
    If Jews are indeed human, we should be able to defy them. Only if Jews are gods should we deify them. But Jews are not gods.

    When people bleat about ‘antisemitism’, they are saying Jews are gods and any criticism of them is a form of blasphemy.

    According to scum like Pompeo, if Palestinians oppressed by Jews complain about Zionism, they are ‘anti-Semites’.

    This is a sick, sick nation. It’s especially sick because Jews call Trump a Nazi but Trump goes out of his way to suck up to Jews as gods who are beyond criticism. But Jews continue to call Trump a Nazi. But if Trump the Nazi is so cozy with Israel, doesn’t it mean Israel is a Nazi nation? But if you were to say so, you are an ‘anti-Semite’. But then, if Trump is Nazi and if Israelis like him, what does it mean? Never mind logic. The only rule that counts is Jews are gods and must be supplicated by all, even those deemed by Jews as ‘nazis’ who should be punched by blacks.

    The Jewish god-complex must end. If Jews can criticize and denounce whites and Christians(and Russians and Muslims), we should be able to do the same about Jews.

  68. anon[327]• 免责声明 说:
    @FB

    how does prohibition against marriage create homosexuals targeting young males from the outside?

    • 回复: @NoseytheDuke
  69. anon[958]• 免责声明 说:
    @Budd Dwyer

    another problem is that 20-30 years ago, when most of this stuff was first being reported, most people unthinkingly believed anything put out by the (((MSM))) and now many of us try to see the (((underlying agendas)))

    i used to believe in the “separation of church and state” as the reason for most of the attacks on the church but looking back it now appears that most of what went on was a judeo war to discredit Christianity

    • 回复: @renfro
  70. Economic elites on the right prefer to divert Deplorable eyes from the economy, focusing attention on the social characteristics of the Yellow Vests: their heterosexual virility, their womb-productive fecundity, their whiteness, their Christian heritage. It’s like what economic elites on the Left do by encouraging a divisive ethnic triumphalism among the massive stew of often welfare-aided immigrant job chasers, brought to the USA to lower wages for 40 years in a country where rent has soared by 72% since the mid Nineties.

    Economic elites always de-emphasize the unifying fact that 80% of Frenchmen support the Yellow Vests in alignment with the 80 / 20 rich / poor divide in most of the West, not just in France. The Frenchies are just always out in front of the artistic / social trends. That’s what economic elites fear: 80% support for the economic-driven protests on behalf of the 80%-screwed population in a rigged economy.

    This is why you see attempts to emphasize the Jewish / Christian divide, even going back multi centuries to do it, bringing the Yellow Vests & the slain Gothic cathederal into it, when most internet commentary has actually entertained another theory: the possibility that the fire was set by radical Islamic terrorists.

    That does not mean that Muslims did it. Fires tend to leave less evidence. We’ll probably never know, even though people with expertise are claiming that the cathedral did have a sprinkler system, installed in 2010. And the type of old wood used to construct the cathedral’s roof ignites slowly and burns slowly, making it highly unlikely that the roof could burn down in an hour by happenstance. And what about the 3 guards on watch at all times?

    Just like the awful destruction of the West’s most beautiful Gothic masterpiece, the era of welfare-assisted, mass-scale, cheap-labor migration that serves the interests of the top 20% by holding wages down includes other fire-related internet theorizing, like the possibility that the awful fire that downed the Grenfel Towers in England was not accidental, coming so soon after the mass murder of children and parents by radical Islamic terrorists at a Manchester kids’ concert.

    With so many mass murders by radical Islamic terrorists in Europe and the USA, it is not just conspiracy-theory gossip, but plausible, that the Western world has descended back into the eye-for-an-eye mayhem culture that the Western Enlightenment and elected governance was supposed to guard against. The most important thing is not civilization, but cheap servants for the dual-earner parents in the top 20%, keeping two of the few household-supporting jobs with benefits under fewer roofs and halving the size of the middle class while low-wage, NannyCam-surveilled babysitters raise their kids for them.

    So, let’s keep talking about race, gender and religion.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Druid
  71. wayfarer 说:
    @Anonymous

    “Forgiveness,” is humanity’s toughest spiritual test.

    In a spiritual war, moral resolve tempers one’s soul, and noble actions echo through the Universe, for eternity

    Sometimes it’s hard to imagine, the courage and faith it takes, to “turn the other cheek.”

    But unless we learn to “forgive,” we’re never going to advance, spiritually.

    It appears as if humanity may now be about to take, a comprehensive spiritual test.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @lavoisier
  72. Wally 说:
    @anon

    Hello, that’s good news to everyone who cherishes freedom, which is under assault by The Usual Enemies of Free Speech.

    I suggest they contact CODOH at: https://codoh.com/contact-us/

    Germar Rudolf is a great interview, or he can recommend another CODOH spokesperson.

    干杯。

    “Only lies require censorship设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

  73. Anon[276]• 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    More Jewish War on Christianity to replace it with worship of Zion, globo-homo, and magic negro.

  74. Republic 说:

    The destruction of the cathedral had been in the cards a long time. When the naked witches of Femen celebrated their black mass, abused the priests and flogged the venerable old bells in the Notre Dame towers, the French court immediately acquitted them of all charges and instead sentenced the guards who tried to stop the sacrilege.

    Contrast that to what happen to the Russian feminists Pussy Riot on February 21, 2011 at the Cathedral of Christ The Savior, in Moscow when their sacrilegious activities led to their arrest and imprisonment for hooliganism.

    Russian society still has a healthy immune system, unlike today’s France which once had a strong, virile immune system but today has been fatally compromised.

  75. @NoseytheDuke

    The church only acts through humans just like corporations do. It is always humans that are directly culpable. Institutions are indirectly culpable for what their people do. Cover-ups are done by humans not by institutions.

  76. Republic 说:
    @Robjil

    The Catholic Church used to have a voice against war. It had Thomas Merton in the 1960s who was a great voice against war.

    Merton’s death by electrocution in Bangkok was highly suspicious.

  77. buzzwar 说:
    @A123

    wrt your last sentence “I feel quite confident that any objective test will find a much higher HATE post count from Muslim names vs. Jewish ones.”.
    There are about 1.5 billion Muslims versus 15 millions Jews worldwide. no wonder that one will find a higher rate for muslims. but if you compare the number of hate posts versus the corresponding population you will end up with a higher percentage of jewish hate posts. In “hating the church” as in many other areas, the jews are always over-represented.

    • 回复: @homahr
  78. 哇!

    What an article!

    The author is right to question the motives of those who seek the destruction of the church and I have no doubt that he is right that Jewish malevolence has played a disproportionate role. I have been maintaining just this contention for some time.

    The foray into what constitutes pederasty and pedophilia was very far reaching and somewhat informative.

    I remain troubled by adults having sex, even if consensual, with minors (less than 15???). But the author does enlighten us as to what should really be considered rape.

    I can completely agree with his contention that many young teenage boys would have welcomed the sexual attentions of a much older woman. Does such behavior constitute rape?

    Many thanks for such an interesting and intellectually challenging article!!

  79. homahr 说:
    @buzzwar

    True, and Muslims, you could say have a reason to ‘hate’ the west with the the non-stop wars against them for the past 60+ years. The West pretty much created a state for these jew-parasites and they still hate the west despite all the favors and money given to these filthy people.

  80. anon[958]• 免责声明 说:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    ..brought to the USA to lower wages for 40 years in a country where rent has soared by 72% since the mid-90’s…

    in my local city since mid nineties the cost to rent a 1 bedroom apt has increased from \$305 to \$900

    needless to say the wages haven’t tripled in that time period

    hopefully stupid Americans will wake up and realize that the main beneficiaries from all the fake refugees and illegal aliens are the millionaire apartment owners who’ve seen their incomes skyrocket and the billionaire business owners who refuse to pay Americans an honest wage

  81. anon[958]• 免责声明 说:
    @wayfarer

    the funny thing is unlike in the past i now forgive and forgive and forgive and what happens is that now i begin to have the moral high ground and eventually one day i’m not going to forgive any more

    • 回复: @wayfarer
  82. @Rational

    theyre no longer “the chosen” ..we are under the new covenant…the jews are under the old covenant…they denied christ and are already condemned for unbelief. john 3;17,18.theyre waiting for a messiah that already came and theyre not real bright

  83. Moi 说:
    @Anonymous

    All I know is that the Siddhartha Gautama liked eating–which is why he is so fat.

    • 回复: @anon
  84. Alden 说:
    @Hibernian

    Calvin was a Jewish homosexual. He was convicted of the act of sodomy at age 18. The basis of his Protestant sect was “ There is but one God, and that is the God of Israel”

    The basis, very essence of Christian belief is the Trinity and Jesus, not just the one God of Israel is also God.

    Therefore, Calvin and his followers were not Christians. My ancestors who landed in Massachusetts in 1620 were not Christians either. Nor were their fellow non Christians who arrived in 1630.

    All followers of Calvin and Knox are not Christians because they loudly proclaimed that Jesus was not God.

    Under great pressure from the British crown, the Wanna be Jew Scots Presbyterians finally, reluctantly agreed to accept that Jesus is God.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  85. @FB

    My priests get child support.
    No need for abstinence ob homosexuality.
    And I’m really very German and Catholic.

    It’s even part of the propaganda against the church.
    “Look the Priest, takes child support but pretends to be gay!”

    • 回复: @FB
  86. @Hibernian

    “That is a warning to those who are at least trying to be just and succeeding to some extent that life is not fair. It is not a call for indifference.”

    There is nothing reflecting indifference. There was a fire. That fire caused damage to a historical iconic building. Fires destroy buildings and sometimes damage iconic infrastructures. When they do, depending on the scope of the artifacts impact on various populations, the experience can be painful, even to the point of tragically traumatizing.

    When that occurs it it’s a deep reminded of the unjustness of events. I have no doubt that to the people of France, and Europeans, and those who are engrossed in the arts, architecture and European history, and Catholics this event is tragic to varying degrees. It is in my view an unfair blow. But as indicated in scripture

    ” . . . . rain falls . . . just and unjust.”

    Should it be discovered that the fire was deliberate sabotage, then I along with others would absolutely agree the matters pursuit. That would not change in the slightest my expressed view. Having experienced both random injustice and that perpetrated by people who should have known better. Your suggestion of indifference is not reflected in my response.

    What is a reflected is a withholding of judgement about the cause. The people of France have been around far longer than the US and I am sure they are more than capable of working their through this event as have so many more actual human tragic events with or without my neutrality or not.

    After 9/11 many people interpreted my neutrality as indifference. They were as wrong in that assessment as I suspect you are in yours concerning this event.

  87. Alden 说:
    @anarchyst

    Schofield Bible is a Protestant Bible, not a Catholic Bible.

    The real heresy occurred in the 16th and 17th century with Luther, Calvin Knox, Fox and the rest of the wanna be jews discarding Catholicism for the obsessive reading, discussing and lunatic interpretation of the Jewish Old Testament. Which led to about 30,000 Protestant sects in the world today.

  88. My comment is to the “tit for tat” retribution suggestion of the Talmud for the top of an iconic building.

  89. Anonymous [AKA "wnc817"] 说:

    I’m pretty sure the Black Plague was their revenge for this incident. They know this, but won’t admit it. In fact, they will commit an unlimited number of atrocities using this as justification, denying responsibility for each thereafter.

  90. Budd Dwyer [AKA "Anthony P."] 说:
    @FB

    I didn’t ask you to buy it, I just stated my take on it. A unique one that comes from decades of investigative experience and personal knowledge in Boston. Take it for what it’s worth. I now own and run an investigation agency in Massachusetts.

    Just be very skeptical of what you read and hear, especially when there is an agenda involved.

  91. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Fuerchtegott

    Again baloney of a slightly different kind…you are trying to put lipstick on a gay pig…

    I would reasonably guess that there is some fraction of heterosexual priests…but the evidence of a cult of homosexuality, and just plain logic dictates it’s not a majority…

    At the end of the day religion is bullshit anyway that has never done anything good for anybody…Shamir is just throwing red meat here to the UNZ mouthfoamers…

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Art
  92. wayfarer 说:
    @anon

    Once we finally master the lessons of love, then we must master the lessons of wisdom – as so on.

    With the Universe now believed to have an observable diameter of 98 billion light-years, it seems an individual soul’s infinite journey, will always have some new higher ground to face.

    It’s going to be a long haul, so try to be patient, and pace yourself.

    • 回复: @The Scalpel
  93. renfro 说:
    @anon

    what went on was a judeo war to discredit Christianity

    Absolutely. Consider how Jews in the Jewish msm choose to showcase catholic priest:

    Jewish filmmaker delves into pedophile priest scandal – J.
    https://www.jweekly.com/…/jewish-filmmaker-delves-into-pedophile-priest-scandal/
    Oct 20, 2006 – As a journalist for CBS and CNN, Amy Berg produced numerous segments on pedophilia charges against California priests, and the failure of …

    BUT….never report on Jewish sex crime and pedophiles ..they talk about it among themselves but never let the public see that Jewish pedophiles outnumber the priest by far :…..no telling how many pedophiles there really are as children and their parent are prevented from going to the police in most cases.

    Sex Abuse Exists in all Jewish Movements | Jewish Federation of the …https://jewishlexington.org/shalom/features/sex-abuse-exists-in-all-jewish-movements

    Israel becoming a ‘refuge for pedophiles,’ warns advocate for child sex …https://www.haaretz.com › 以色列新闻
    Mar 22, 2016 – Israel has become a safe haven for Jewish pedophiles from around the world, a leading advocate for child sexual abuse victims warned

    US: Paedophilia scandal among Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn – La Stampa
    http://www.lastampa.it/2011/12/14/vaticaninsider/us-paedophilia…jews-in…/pagina.html
    Dec 14, 2011 – They are all members of the large JewishOrthodox community in the … of the most important actions taken against paedophilia – was called “Kol …

    Child Sex Abuse Case Still Haunts – ABC News
    https://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2555575&page=1
    “Pedophiles have a pattern with children to get their confidence and send their … Not a single Orthodox Jewish boy or their parents would talk to the police.
    .

    [更多]

    Melbourne Jewish school sent pedophile teacher to Israel
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au › nation › nation
    Feb 3, 2015 – JEWISH leaders who knew a teacher had admitted fondling young boys did not stop him associating with children in Israel after paying for his …

    拉比的绝对权力:性虐待如何撕裂澳大利亚的……
    https://www.theguardian.com/…/rabbis-absolute-power-how-sex-abuse-tore-apart-aust…
    Feb 18, 2015 – He was a dominating figure in Melbourne’s Jewish world, … Police had discovered another paedophile active on the campus, a man whose

    More suspected pedophiles arrested in Haredi Orthodox neighborhood
    http://www.stljewishlight.com/…pedophiles…/article_9ec1d831-8239-501d-89c4-4e042411…
    Jan 10, 2012 – Israeli police arrested three men in a suspected pedophile ring that is alleged to have abused at least 70 children in a Haredi Orthodox

    Ultra-Orthodox Jews Shun Their Own for Reporting Child Sexual Abuse
    https://www.nytimes.com/…/ultra-orthodox-jews-shun-their-own-for-reporting-child-sex…
    May 9, 2012 – The first shock came when Mordechai Jungreis learned that his mentally disabled teenage son was being molested in a Jewish ritual …

    Bethesda synagogue grapples with presence of rabbi convicted of sex …https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/a6549984-1a0c-11e2-aa6f-3b636fecb829_story….
    Oct 26, 2012 – A liberal Jewish congregation is forced to re-examine its belief in … Is true forgiveness and redemption even possible in cases of pedophilia,

    Jewish welfare group knows it is sheltering a paedophile
    https://www.smh.com.au/…/jewish-welfare-group-knows-it-is-sheltering-a-paedophile-2…
    Apr 10, 2013 – A self-confessed paedophile who sexually abused several boys in Sydney is being harboured by a leading Los Angeles Jewish welfare group. … The man is central to the controversy surrounding Bondi’s Yeshiva community and some of Australia’s most senior rabbis. … In it, the man says …
    Alleged paedophile in bid to avoid trial – The Jewish Chronicle
    https://www.thejc.com/news/uk…/alleged-paedophile-in-bid-to-avoid-trial-1.51413
    Dec 6, 2013 – A suspected British paedophile who fled to Israel to avoid a trial may walk free if he succeeds in being deported to a third country, the JC has …

  94. wayfarer 说:

    “圣母院尖顶倒塌,这是象征主义。”

    “巴黎圣母院火灾阴谋论。”

  95. Polemos 说:
    @Giuseppe

    Is corporate guilt distinct from collective guilt? That is, can I hold Microsoft or Amazon or Monsanto guilty of fraud or malfeasance or only individuals employed by them?

    • 回复: @Giuseppe
    , @Dave Bowman
  96. Alden 说:

    大家复活节快乐。

    This non believer will post some historical authentic information about the Catholic Church vis a vis France tomorrow.

  97. Druid 说:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    Endgame, you’re like a broken record blaming Muslims for everything

  98. Ron Unz 说:
    @Alden

    Calvin was a Jewish homosexual. He was convicted of the act of sodomy at age 18.

    That’s an astonishing claim that I’ve never seen anywhere, though admittedly I’ve never studied the Reformation/Counter-Reformation.

    But given the centuries of ferocious hostility of the Catholics and even the Lutherans toward Calvin and his doctrines, wouldn’t it have been an absolute center-piece of all the anti-Calvinist propaganda, whether true or not. After all the Calvinists produced oceans of extremely nasty anti-Catholic propaganda, often focused upon the behaviors of priests and nuns.

    What are some of the more widespread and credible sources of that claim?

    • 回复: @Alden
  99. renfro 说:

    In the US, Pamela Rogers was sentenced to years of jail-time for having sex with a boy as tall as you and me; he may have been only 13 at the time, but this happens to be the exact age my great-grandfather was married.

    I suggest you ask the mother of a 15 year old boy what she would do to the woman if she had sex with her 15 year old son.

    This is not the first time you have 默示 approval of some questionable sexual standards.
    Maybe you have a problem.

    • 同意: Iris
    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Iris
  100. Alden 说:
    @FB

    在这个国家,主要是天主教徒,然后是新教徒,他们自称是基督徒,最后是主流新教徒,主要是路德教徒,这是一件奇妙的事。

    它们为可怕的公立学校系统提供了一个广泛可用的替代 K-12 学校系统。

    至少让你的孩子进入其中一所学校可以让他们远离黑兽人。 在他们 18 岁时,它为他们提供了良好的教育。

    在天主教徒定居的北方,有天主教高中。 在新教南部有更多的基督教学校。

    仅供参考,私立/宗教学校的高中毕业生可以在除了 STEM 和医学之外的所有大学课程中睡觉,因为他们在高中时学到了一切。

    前段时间在卡瓦诺听证会上讨论了为什么这么多天主教法官

    . 我没有发表我的观点是因为大多数天主教堂都有一所便宜的小学。 甚至所有黑人社区的教区学校。

    这个国家 70% 的医院都是在政府医疗保险和医疗资金之前一百年或更长时间建立的天主教医院。

    请记住,除了弗吉尼亚州的那些人之外,美国最早的英国定居者是持不同政见者、叛国宗教、清教徒、贵格会、天主教徒和克伦威尔奴隶爱尔兰奴隶天主教徒的成员

    所以接受好的,忽略坏的。

    如果盖茨和巴菲特把所有的钱都捐给私立宗教学校系统不是很好吗? 我们所有的白人孩子都可以参加黑色和棕色的兽人免费学校,并且不会受到欺凌和语无伦次的尖叫。

    • 回复: @FB
    , @Zeroh Tollrants
  101. anon[993]• 免责声明 说:
    @Moi

    All I know is that the Siddhartha Gautama liked eating–which is why he is so fat.

    people who are fat have emotional problems

    also, the view from India on the Notre Dame incident from a Hindu woke to the Jew Problem:

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2019/04/16/nortre-dame-fire-macron-rothschild-and-the-attacks-on-catholic-france/

    am i the only one who finds it hilarious that there’s someone in India raving against the jews? lol

    • 回复: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  102. Alden 说:
    @renfro

    Quite a few men have told me their first sex was with a friend of parent’s or neighbor. Those women were in their 30s 40s. The men enjoyed it.

  103. Iris 说:
    @renfro

    This is not the first time you have implied approval of some questionable sexual standards.

    Thanks, I thought it was just me. This article is weird and creepy.

    • 同意: Zumbuddi, jacques sheete
  104. j2 说:
    @Digital Samizdat

    “Whether they knew it or not, the “lost temple of the East” that the Masons were said to be slowly ‘rebuilding’ (hence their name) was actually another temple in Jerusalem–Zionism!”

    From the beginning of 1700 the history of Freemasonry is known, apart of the more secret aspects, but there is uncertainty of the beginning a century earlier. Masonry transformed from practical masonry lodges to philosophic lodges starting from the end of the 16th century. The critical time is the 17th century. At that time we have Judah Leon Templo present the plans of the Temple of Solomon to Charles II of England. Charles II is a candidate for the widow’s son as his father Charles I was executed. The role and even reality of Stuart Freemasonry is disputed, but it is plausible that the plans of the temple of Solomon were taken to Freemasonry and they actually meant building a new temple in Jerusalem. Yet, I think Jewish control of Freemasonry should be placed to the 18th century, somewhat before the American revolutionary war where Rothschild was the banked of the Landgrave of Hesse, who rented soldiers to England in that war and made a fortune on wars. The union of revolutionaries and bankers making money with wars is a natural one.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  105. Christo 说:

    “恋童癖牧师”

    就犹太媒体而言,另一个统计数据掩盖了这一点。 这些罪行和所涉及的神父的清单可以追溯到 1950 年代,而这些神父中的许多人在 1970 年代已经去世,当时媒体上“流行”了旧案件和最近的案件。 然而,从未注意到的是,从天主教会追踪此类罪行的记录(1950 年代)到今天,已有 100 多名天主教神父和其他教会“官员”,有些人认为这一数字超过了在那个时间跨度内(在世界范围内)超过百万。 当你看罪犯的数量和被指控的罪犯时,即使超过这个倍数来占未报告的罪犯的比例也不会达到1000%。 “天主教神父”“恋童癖者或其他人”的百分比低于一般人群中此类性犯罪者的百分比。 这就像警察杀害黑人的神话。 被反基督徒/反天主教徒/任何为自己目的掌权的人利用,摧毁白人基督教社会,教会是基础之一,保护白人社会的法律是另一个。

    想指出这些“娈童”教会罪犯的相关人口统计数据,他们的人数,牧师总数,教会官员,我查看的时间范围是 1950 -2000 年,但那是 10 到 15 年前,因为我真的很想知道这个问题的规模到底有多大。 对不起,所有能提供的都是我上面提到的。 这些数字不难找到。 一个地方 http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ 的一个子站点 http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/reports-and-research.cfm 在 IIRC 中,我找到了很多数据来重建这方面的普遍性。

  106. @wayfarer

    It’s going to be a long haul, so try to be patient, and pace yourself.

    But I have to go peeeeee

  107. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Alden

    That bullshit might sound convincing to someone who knows nothing about Christian schools…unfortunately, you picked a guy who had the misfortune to be born into a family of evangelical fanatics…and thus experienced the ‘superiority’ of the Christian school system firsthand…LOL

  108. Alden 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Heildberg.net

    Just google John Calvin theologian homosexual. Or John Calvin homosexual It comes right up

    It was in 1527 that he was convicted of homosexual activity, not suspicion or or harassment, but sodomy the only homo activity that was a crime at the time. He had a regular trial with prosecutorial evidence that the judges believed and found to be true.

    I learned this decades ago in the Greene library Stanford

    Calvin’s proclamations that “ there is but one God and that is the God of Israel”. proves he was a Jew.

    Even the weirdest Christian sects acknowledge that Jesus is a God. The trinity 3 Gods in one and both the Jewish God the father and Jesus his son both God and man is the essence of Christianity.

    A man who proclaims that only the one God of Israel is God is not a Christian. When he ran his reign of terror in Geneva, Calvin made it a death penalty offense to celebrate Christian feasts such as Christmas Easter Pentecost etc

    Look at what Calvin proclaimed and did when he ruled the Geneva Calvinists. He wasn’t a Christian. He denied the essence of Christianity that Jesus is God.

    He was convicted, not just accused of homosexuality in a court of law.

    Was Calvin a Jew?

    Just google was John Calvin a Jew. Flickr.com and others come up. Their theory is very convincing.

    But just his proclamation about the only God is the Israelites God and outlawing Christian festivals is pretty convincing evidence he was a Jew and that his religion was:

    1 a way to split and destroy Christianity
    2 create a Jewish form of Christianity with its discarding of Jesus and the NT in favor of the OT and criminalizing Christian holidays

    As for the Protestant argument that the catholic festivals were nothing more that the old European pagan festivals, that’s very true.

    But the early Roman Catholic Church preserves the ancient religions of the White European people’s both in the festivals and church art which was very Green man and tree and nature worship.

    Except for the Church of England, most of the early Protestant churches sought to criminalize the observances of the Christian festivals. The calvinist Puritan lunatics even forbade eating a warm meal in December 25, cold leftovers only and they better be simple and not include a “catholic pagan idol” desert or treats

    Note the Jewish bolsheviks, like many of the early Protestant sects also criminalized the observance of Christmas. In fact, it was a death penalty offense to not show up for work on December 25 in the early Jewish Soviet Union although that law was never enforced.

    If you really investigate Knox, Calvin and the rest of the sects except for Henry’s Church of England it’s eway to see they were more Jewish than Christian.

    Luther went to Rome on the standard monk’s pilgrimage. A few years later he founded a new religion based on the Old Testament. He later turned viciously against the Jews as a group because they didn’t convert enmasse to his new religion?

    Why would he expect the Jews of Europe to convert to his religion when they hadn’t converted to Christianity in 1,500 years?

    Think about it. He was a great theologian, scholar and translator of Jewish Greek and Latin books. Rome had a big Jewish community. There was constant collaboration between the Jewish and catholic theologians.

    Calvin was convicted, not just suspected of homosexuality in a court of law in 1527. There’s a great deal of evidence he was a secret Jew from a secret Jew family. His religion and ideas about God was wanna be Jew and anti Christian.

    Just google John Calvin theologian homosexual and was John Calvin theologian a Jew. The articles come right up. No need to go to a great university library as I did.

    The secret Jew thing can’t be proved. The one God of the Jews thing is proven by Calvin’s proclamations. The Christian 3 God’s in one is just an adaption of North of Rome Celt Germanic pagan religion. But it is the basis of Christianity along with Jesus being one of the 3 Gods

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Ron Unz
  109. Druid 说:
    @FB

    Agree. The celibacy in the Catholic Church was entirely monetary based. Priests who had children were interested in leaving them inheritances. The church wanted that money, so…..celibacy. Meanwhile, numerous popes,etc., had mistresses. Eventually the church became a refuge for homos with a ready supply of victims, thus creating a thousand year problem that now has a light shined on it!

    • 同意: FB
  110. Alden 说:
    @Alden

    Whatever Calvin was, secret Jew plotting to split Christianity or founder of a pure form of Christianity and destroyer of papist pagan idols he wasn’t a Christian if he didn’t believe Jesus was God and he didn’t believe Jesus was God.

    The secret Jews plotting to destroy Christianity seems extreme to me. My idea is that they converted for various reasons but remembered they were Jews for a few generations.

    Bernard Malamud has a book about a 19th century Russian Jewish man who left the Jewish town and passed himself off as non Jewish for practical reasons. He was big and strong and knew he had mechanical ability. He didn’t want to be scorned as a blue collar worker. He disliked the religious observation especially the required studying Talmud as he was no scholar

    So he left, got jobs where his skills and strength were respected. He didn’t live happily ever after but he was happier in his new life than the old one.

    I think the crypto Jews were more like that character than they were a thousand year plot.

    But whatever he was, Calvin’s new religion wasn’t Christian as it denied the essence of Christianity, the trinity and that Jesus was God.

    I knew I shouldn’t have read Shamir’s article.

    • 回复: @Grace Poole
  111. Unfortunately, the Church is one of the enemies of the West. I can’t think of any major branch of Christianity that stands up for its flock against Jews and other non-Christians, immigration, empire, or really anything else. Christians in the West didn’t abandon the Church. The Church abandoned western Christians. How do you put that Genie back into the bottle?

    • 同意: Rurik, Alden
  112. @Alden

    why is the trinity so important to christianity, to the point that you claim it defines the 本质 of christianity?

    • 回复: @Alden
  113. anarchyst 说:
    @FB

    Your premise is wrong. I agree that celibacy for Catholic priests should be optional as it is not doctrinal in nature…
    开始…
    性犯罪的发生率约为 1%。
    That is Far less than that of Protestants, J EW Rabbis, Boy Scout troopmasters or certainly Public School administrators. The leader in sex crimes against children is usually inter family related ie Step Fathers, Friends, uncles etc.
    犹太人制造了一场危机,而不是对中央集权的天主教会提起诉讼,并且这样做永远玷污了作为他们的死敌的神职人员。

    自由共和国

    恋童癖只有天主教的罪孽?
    14年2009月XNUMX日| 凯文·罗腾

    恋童癖只有天主教的罪孽?

    [更多]

    事实证明,恋童癖是一个不正确的名词,天主教徒对此不承担任何责任。

    令人震惊的是,美联社打破了他们典型的自由主义模式,并报告说保险公司阐明了新教教会中的性虐待程度,即对未成年人的性虐待猖ramp。 但是他们在声明中间接说天主教徒不是多数滥用者。

    美联社讨论了确保美国大多数新教教堂(教堂互助会,向导一和兄弟会互助会)的三家公司的原始数据,并且通常会收到260份报告/每年对18岁以下的人进行性虐待。 与之相比,自228年以来,每年约有1950项针对天主教神职人员的可靠指控(记录在案的滥用记录)。

    连同这些信息,已知天主教会大大超过任何特定的新教教派,并且新教教会的数据仅在最近七年可用。 自从举报第一起性虐待案件以来,天主教徒一直有以下要求:1)对包括志愿者在内的所有志愿者进行警察背景调查; 2)在所有宗教活动中都有第二个人在场;以及3)所有与未成年人有关的人员必须与保护神的孩子们进行例行检查。

    毫无疑问,对未成年人的性虐待是人类可能犯下的最卑鄙的罪行之一。 但是掠夺者似乎在这样的氛围中蓬勃发展,在这种氛围中,基层会众是现有的最受信任的组织之一。

    菲利普·詹金斯(Philip Jenkins)在其1996年的《恋童癖和牧师》一书中,[客观地,无动于衷地研究了这个问题。 詹金斯(不是天主教徒)发现,真正的恋童癖极为罕见,在新教牧师中可能更为普遍,而在已婚外行中则更为普遍。

    他发现,在大多数性虐待案件中(在同意年龄以下),该行为实际上是多种同性恋行为。 这种结合了男孩气概与性成熟的魅力的年轻男性的性吸引力实际上被称为“嗜性粒细胞增多症”。 恋童癖实际上是一个精神病学术语,意指青春期以下儿童的性兴趣。

    针对儿童的最严重的性犯罪是在犹太社区和新教教堂中。
    尤塔姆吉·里斯特(Jutarnji List)写道,托马西(Tomasi)也没有受到批评,并引用了由基督教科学教会(Christian Science Church)于XNUMX年前成立的每日基督教科学箴言报(Christian Science Monitor)公布的数据,他说天主教会清理了房屋。
    托马西说,根据他们的数据,美国大多数虐待儿童案件都发生在新教教堂和犹太社区。

    新的研究成果表明,比起巧克力,更多的伪装者对伪狂犬病的认罪

    宾夕法尼亚州立大学的历史学家菲利普·詹金斯(Philip Jenkins)对神职人员中的恋童癖和性虐待进行了深入研究,并提出了一些相当令人大开眼界的事实。 看起来,虽然有1.7%的天主教神职人员犯了恋童癖(或特别是对男孩的性虐待),但却发现百分之十的新教牧师都犯了恋童癖!

    詹金斯指出,这更有趣,因为根本没有媒体术语“恋童癖”。

    詹金斯(Jenkins)认为,媒体证明了性滥交的必要性,过分强调了天主教神职人员中发现的恋童癖,因为它可以以此来批评独身主义的整个观念。 但是有趣的是,与独身的天主教神父相比,非独身的新教牧师们面临的问题更大!

    詹金斯(Jenkins)呼吁媒体:新教牧师的恋童癖不在我们的社会建构主义者的框架之内:

    在1980年代,[牧师]莱瓦(Paytor Leyva)在南部几个州虐待了大约1990个男孩,但我们当中很少有人知道这一点。 莱瓦有幸担任五旬节大臣,因此不在忙于建设现实的人们的框架之内。 在1年代被控minister亵儿童的三位兄弟,所有的浸信会牧师也是如此。 公众对这一系列非常不寻常的案件了解甚少,因为那些信奉天主教丑闻的人认为不值得传播。 [XNUMX]

  114. chris m 说:
    @Rational

    not an expert on these matters, but i’ll take your word for it.

  115. anarchyst 说:

    尽管同性恋者极力否认,但同性恋和恋童癖是密不可分的。 几乎所有的同性恋者都有过他们的第一次同性恋“经历”,这是由成年同性恋者作为青少年男性介绍给他们的。 这本身就构成了同性恋恋童癖,这本身就是一种犯罪行为,是一种终生摧毁青春期前儿童的方式。
    所谓的罗马天主教神父“虐童丑闻”,其实是在行动的同性恋恋童癖。 当然,“主流媒体”不能冒犯“同性恋社区”,称其为真正的东西——因此,“玩弄文字”,称其为“儿童性虐待”而不是同性恋恋童癖——他们的真正定义肮脏的行为。
    谈到天主教会同性恋恋童癖牧师的“问题”,我必须扮演“恶魔的代言人”……天主教会“夹在岩石和艰难的地方之间”,完全有权利担心会有多少虚假的主张那些在这种行为发生的同时属于教区的教区居民。 跟着钱走……当然,这种同性恋恋童癖行为绝对没有(而且曾经)没有任何借口……
    可悲的是,同性恋者是在它再次,鼓励“精神病学界”恋童癖的定义从精神病“障碍”,以单纯的“生活方式”,而不是象什么同性恋做改变。 有病吧??

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  116. renfro 说:
    @Alden

    If the mother of one of my friends had come on to me I would have run like hell away from her.
    I think some boys (because of their parents) lack moral upbringing and sense.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @OilcanFloyd
  117. Ron Unz 说:
    @Alden

    Heildberg.net

    Just google John Calvin theologian homosexual. Or John Calvin homosexual It comes right up

    Well, I Googled the phrase you suggested, and the very first source that came up was exactly the one you’d mentioned:

    https://heidelblog.net/2012/11/was-calvin-a-homosexual-convict/

    Although I’ve never heard of the website, the writer seems a pretty cautious and knowledgeable individual.

    However, his conclusions are exactly the opposite of the ones you claim. He seems to think that the accusation that Calvin was a homosexual is just a gossipy rumor promoted by his religious enemies, having no basis in evidence and now recently revived by the Internet. He writes:

    That old, centuries discredited myths are apparently gaining new life illustrates one of the dangers of learning via the internet.

    The republication, on the internet, of these old, scurrilous, long-discredited, stories about Calvin the Reformers presents an opportunity to learn again the value of developing one’s critical faculties and historical acumen. The irony is that, with the rise of the internet, the need for the critical reading of texts has never been greater and the need comes when, perhaps, our ability to exercise such faculties has never been so diminished.

    I think his statements are an excellent summary of all the rumors and unsubstantiated accusations floating around on the Internet.

    As for Calvin being Jewish, the “evidence” seems even thinner, basically some guy on Flickr ranting about Calvin was a crypto-Jew who sought to destroy the Catholic Church. While that can’t be ruled out, there seems zero evidence of it, and I don’t see any indication that any of Calvin’s ferociously hostile contemporaries raised the possibility. If they never thought so, how would people centuries later find out?

    • 回复: @FB
    , @Sergey Krieger
    , @Alden
  118. Alden 说:
    @Grace Poole

    If you proclaim that “ there is but one God and that is the God of Israel” you are not a Christian because you deny that Jesus is God.

    Never baptized so I’m not a Christian. If you claim to be a Christian just ask your clergy critter or google about Jesus and the trinity and Christianity.

    But judging by his own words and the way he ran his religion in Geneva, Calvin in Geneva, Calvin was not a Christian and anti all forms of Christianity.

    I should have gone to universal studios with the rest of the clan today. Knew I shouldn’t have read Israel Shamir.

    • 回复: @Grace Poole
    , @David Parker
  119. @Alden

    I bet they wouldn’t have enjoyed it so much if they got the woman pregnant, though, and she decided to keep the baby.

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  120. Art 说:
    @FB

    At the end of the day religion is bullshit anyway that has never done anything good for anybody

    An absolute fact. The Catholic Church has done more beneficial activities than any other institution in human history. Its grade schools, universities, hospitals, charities, beautiful art and churches – have improved and uplifted human life.

    Why and how is a mystery – but the Church has stayed true to Jesus and his idealism more than any other Christian sect. The backbone of the Church is the parish priest and the mass – not the bishops and the mucky mucks who go off the deep end into mysticism that no one really gets. The weakly eternal unchanging ceremony of the mass, experienced together with all walks of life, in a beautiful church surround by stories of Jesus’ life – simply uplifts the human spirit.

    The Church has a gay problem because of the way it recruits priests. It looks for vocations starting in the seventh and eighth grades – just when boys are seriously finding their sexuality. Boys are thinking about girls and not about NO sex for the rest of their lives. But not all boys. Eighth grade gay boys find the priesthood an easy and safe out that makes them celebrities in their Catholic culture. Some of these gay boys are very aggressive, it is ingrained in them – they can not turn off that aggressiveness in adult life – thus the problem.

    认为和平—不伤害—艺术

    • 回复: @Zumbuddi
    , @Iris
    , @Anon
    , @Alden
  121. @anarchyst

    What about Priests with young girls? Priests have been fornicating since the Church’s inception with females.

    It wasn’t until the same-sex scandals started with the Priests, that it caught the attention of the public.

  122. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Ron Unz

    I’m out of LOLs…

    Ron Unz discovers his readership’s grasp on reality…

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    , @The Scalpel
  123. Miggle 说:
    @Hibernian

    Please explain. Oppression of who? What land? Why? Are you sure?

    Historically there has been immense propaganda on this subject from a particular source. Amazingly, there still is when the opportunity arises. Where did you learn about it?

    1550 + 350 1900

    • 回复: @Miggle
    , @Miggle
  124. @Anon

    Israel Shmir is deranged.
    The Catholic Church is pro Palestinian, hilarious. Just ask any Eastern European catholic-christian country how they feel about Islam and the Muslims. Do you think any Palestinians or Syrians can get visas to Poland?
    It is amazing that anyone prints his work, blatantly a liar a propagandist so outrageous he is not considered dangerous because his writing are so fraught with hysteria of Jew hatred that they loose all context. The guy is sick in the head.

    • 巨魔: renfro
    • 回复: @anon
    , @Polemos
    , @anon
  125. “Another statistical cover up as far as the Jew media goes. The listing of these crimes and the priests involved goes back to the 1950’s and many of these priest had already died by the 1970’s when it became “vogue” in the Media to harp on the old cases and the more recent ones.”

    From a building fire to child abuse. Laughing.

    The issue of child abuse is tragic. Made all the more so when it occurs between clergy and members. However, the percentage of clergy involved in this behavior is less than 5% among the entire catholic faith. And it becomes abundantly clear that when looking into the matter most of the time the Catholic organization takes the matter very seriously as is detailed in the volumes of documentation in such cases.

    The idea that any organization is going to open the doors on their dirty laundry is simply unreasoned, nonsense. No organization readily does that. People don’t do do that — ok, those on talk shows are the exception. But certainly no organization tasked with aiding people in some of the worst aspects of their lives makes it a point to broadcast the matter.

    And those such as churches would even be less inclined for very good reason. The Church has made mistakes in handling these issues. But as someone stated previously, what started out in Boston was poorly reported and investigated . And what had been a few cases became standard for the worst kind of witch hunting against Catholics. And the enemies of both Catholics and the christians made fine use of it to batter down sound moral practices.

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  126. Logan 说:

    <IJacob, the Biblical patriarch, surpassed him and married Rachel who was only 7.

    Have absolutely no idea where you got this idea. Jacob worked seven years for Laban to earn the right to marry Rachel, who he fell in love with when he met her watering her father’s flocks. Drawing water up from a well was hard physical work, so it seems likely she was already physically adult, perhaps 12 or 13 at least. Meaning she would have been in her late teens or early 20s when she married Jacob.

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  127. Alden 说:
    @Miggle

    Newly cut wood cells are full of moist air. Newly cut wood has to be dried out either in a sort of oven or sit in a lumberyard for a few years before it’s used.

    Wood gets more and more solid as it gets older and it really does get harder to set on fire as it gets older.

    For instance, the table the bomb intended to kill Hitler in 1944 was set under wasn’t harmed at all, just the people around it.

    Hitler wasn’t injured at all because a solid couple hundred year old wide thick table leg was between him and the bomb. Some of the furniture in the room was destroyed, but not that solid old table

    Those timbers were thoroughly coated with tar though, to protect them from rain during the building and termites later on. And tar, even 800 year old tar is very flammable.

    However it happened, well never know the truth if it was arson.

  128. Agent76 说:

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams

    *宗教自由是我们的第一自由*

    第一修正案

    第一修正案保障有关宗教、言论、集会和请愿权的自由。 它禁止国会提倡一种宗教而不是另一种宗教,也禁止限制个人的宗教活动。 它通过禁止国会限制新闻或个人自由发言的权利来保障言论自由。 它还保障公民和平集会和向政府请愿的权利。

    修正案I –国会不得制定有关宗教信仰建立或禁止其自由行使的法律; 或剥夺言论自由或新闻自由; 或人民和平集会和向政府请愿的权利。

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

    复活画

    以基督教壁画闻名的艺术家 Ron DiCianni 讨论了他最近受委托创作的《复活画》。 由于壁画的大小和细节水平,Ron 花了两年时间完成《复活》。

    1 年 2018 月 XNUMX 日 天主教与基督教——令人震惊的差异

    Ray Comfort 解释了圣经基督教和天主教之间非常重要的区别。

  129. Miggle 说:
    @Miggle

    Oh, I see. Ireland. But was that Calvin, his fault? Or was it British colonialism? And was adherence to a different form of Christianity that waged a 30-year war against Calvinists on the Continent all for/about religion in Ireland, or simply resistance against the conqueror? What do the Northerners think?

    A certain young Frenchwoman named Mary, later Queen of Scots, had enjoyable, constant entertainment in Paris watching Calvinists being publicly burnt to ashes.

    What was the punishment meted out to Irish who refused to convert to Calvinism? Ashes? Bone-saws? Beheading? Prison? Fines? Shouting? Bad employment or none?

    请解释。

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Hibernian
  130. anon[993]• 免责声明 说:
    @Fran Taubman

    It is amazing that anyone prints his work, blatantly a liar a propagandist so outrageous he is not considered dangerous because his writing are so fraught with hysteria of Jew hatred that they loose all context. The guy is sick in the head.

    好女孩

    the shekels are on the way

  131. 更正:

    People don’t do that — ok, those on talk shows are the exception.

    And the enemies of both Catholics and the christians made fine use of it to batter down sound social practices.

    • 回复: @Anon
  132. Alden 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    One thing I remembered before the Boy Scouts succumbed to being banned from using public parks and facilities and some Protestant church facilities and allowed homosexual leaders were the endless editorials thundering against the horrible discrimination and bigotry against homosexuals.

    Homosexuals are upstanding virtuous moral people who would never, ever think of molesting the boys in their charge, even sleeping in the same tent proclaimed those editorials.

    And on the opposite page would be an editorial thundering against homosexual catholic priests.

    There are already advertisements on TV by underemployed attorneys inviting scouts who were mileage by gay scout leaders to call the 800 number, operators standing by!! Or email a complaint to sue the Boy Scouts for homosexual molestation. The ad claims the attorneys have records going back to 1905 about homosexual leaders molesting the boys.

    It’s amazing, the liberals have always supported NAMBLA man boy love association and worship homosexuals the way the worship MLK but they denounce homosexual priests who practiced man boy ickiness.

    There’s a lot of liberal propaganda that the ages of consent should be lowered. It would be gradual, from 16 or 18 to 14 then 12, then 10. It’s been around a long time. I’m old enough to remember before the feminazis got on their crusade against rape and child molestation.

    Right before that there was a lot of liberal propaganda that molestation didn’t hurt children. But what did hurt children was the adverse reaction of parents and police and that children were naturally sexual and that there was nothing wrong with it. There was a lot of that around in the late sixties sex revolution.

    But a few years later mid 70s the feminazis got a lot of government grants publicity and jobs going after child molestation and rape. So child molestation except for homosexuals became taboo.

    But who reads newspapers?

  133. Alden 说:
    @renfro

    Well, these guys didn’t. I gathered the women didn’t just suddenly jump them but the boys were attracted for a long time and then it happpened.

  134. mcohen 说:

    The apologists for the behaviour of the RCC and its members is disgusting.The organizations abuse of power has prevented any meaningful accounting for centuries.

    Well pilgrims.Those days are over

    The case of Malka liefer in australia is another example of so called relegious leaders who would have us believe that the woman is unfit to stand trial in australia for crimes committed in australia.

    Well there is more than one way to skin a rat.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adass_Israel_School_sex_abuse_scandal&ved=2ahUKEwjy-vPUpuLhAhVSSX0KHVrxBJkQFjAHegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3fJQ42dHA0nPJb9ozz6TVx

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  135. Alden 说:
    @freedom-cat

    The advantage of adulterous sex with a married woman is that legally the child is the husbands and the husband and woman both assume the child is the husbands

    Plus there’s something known as birth control. These encounters occurred in the 60s after use of the 99% reliable pill became widespread. Before the pill condoms, diaphragms and the rhythm method were widely used. There’s only about 5 days of the month a woman can get pregnant. Easy to avoid adultery that week. Plus friends of teen age boys parents would have been 30s 40s. Married woman old enough to be homeowners would have been old enough to use birth control.

    I didn’t have sex with a married person as a teen. Just a few guys mentioned it to me.

  136. Zumbuddi 说:
    @Art

    Mayo Clinic was started by Catholic (Franciscan) nuns.

    我不知道。

    很酷。

  137. anon[993]• 免责声明 说:
    @mcohen

    >mcohen

    The apologists for the behaviour of the RCC and its members is disgusting.The organizations abuse of power has prevented any meaningful accounting for centuries.

    probably you should clean up your own house before you go around judging others, cohen

  138. @anon

    Lol You are funny. It is not Nortre, it is Notre. Our Lady not Northern lady.
    Pretty wild imagination!

  139. Iris 说:
    @Art

    The Catholic Church has done more beneficial activities than any other institution in human history

    It is a fact. The Catholic Church has a worldwide network of charities second only to the United Nations’.

    • 哈哈: FB
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    , @renfro
  140. Alfred 说:

    the government of Holland

    FrançoisGérardGeorgesNicolas Hollande

  141. Alden 说:
    @Miggle

    fsct remains, Calvinists are not Christians because he proclaimed that only the god of Israel is god, the calvinists didn’t believe Jesus was god which is the essence of Christianity.

    Calvinist Oliver Cromwell massacred about 200k indigenous Irish Catholics and enslaved about another 250k. About a fourth of the entire population of Ireland Catholics were banned from all occupations but lawyer and unskilled labor for hundreds of years. Millions were starved to death in just one famine. Food was actually exported to England, under military guard during the famine. Food sent from America Europe and Australia was forbidden to land in Ireland but forced to land in English ports. The grain and other food was supposed to be unloaded and then loaded into English ships, but it never was.

    Very similar to what the Japanese do to American autos when they land in Japan. Each car is throughly, minutely inspected by master mechanics. Just a few for several hundred cars on the ship. It takes about a year to inspect a shipload. I’m not Irish at all. But what the English did to the Irish was genocide during the most famous famine which was not the only one.

    Then there was the no more than 4 pigs, 1 cow, only one very cheap horse, either an attorney or unskilled day labor. Ever heard of hedge teachers? It was illegal to teach Catholics any kind of education so an entire hidden school system developed. Ireland was England’s first and worst treated colony.

    Whatever; the fact remains that the calvinists and American pilgrims were not Christian as they did not believe that Jesus was god, only the god of israel.

    Believe Jesus is god? You’re a Christian. Believe Jesus is not god? You’re not a Christian. Believe the only god is the god of Israel? You’re not a Christian.

    And your hero Calvin was convicted in 1527 at age 18 in a court of law ; enough evidence to convince the judges of homosexual activities just google it or go to the religion section of any university library.

    Calvin burnt dissenters in Geneva. The first Amish in America were the followers of a man named Amos, hence Amish who would have all been killed by Calvin because they too were Old Testament wanna be Jew lunatics who disagreed with Calvin’s lunatic OT wanna be Jew lunacy.

    • 回复: @Polemos
    , @Anon
  142. @Ron Unz

    It is similar to revived claims that Lenin was either paid by Jewish bankers or was German agent of influence. Everything that was proven to be lies long time ago got a new life in our times.

    • 回复: @Seraphim
    , @anon
  143. Anon[276]• 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    Does it really matter? Notre Dame and most Churches in the West are empty shells. No matter beautiful conch or abalone shells are, they are dead without the living flesh inside. We may collect them on the beach as pretty objects, but they are dead organisms. European Churches are dead shells. The soul is gone from them. France has ‘gay marriage’. So do most European nations. ‘Gay’ Flags are stuck inside churches as victory banners of Globo-Homo as Queertianity.
    And the body is dying. London is over 50% of non-British whites. By some estimates, more than 50% of all new births in Paris are Africans or Muslims. Europe is dead in soul and withering/dying in body. There is no pride, no reverence, no sense of roots, no sense of continuity. And Jews have taken over the shells like hermit crabs and re-coded the National DNA. Jewish globalists say Vikings were black. Jewish Globalists say Britain was always a Nation of Immigrants. France as white nation? That was just fiction. Ancient Greece was white? Medieval Culture was European? European was white? No way. They were always about blacks, Arabs, and Jews… so say the Jewish Globalists and their cuck-agents, white and yellow.

    Mass tourism degrades nations. In the past, only the privileged traveled. Nations were not inundated with millions and millions of foreigners who always mob national sites and treasures. There were seekers, but they were sincerely interested in visiting the places of their fascination or obsession. An art lover had reasons to visit Paris with its galleries. A Catholic wanted to visit Notre Dame or Vatican for spiritual reasons. Their sojourns had meaning. It wasn’t just for amusement. Now, drunken British blokes romp around different parts of the world to just party. And masses of tourists come to McEurope to just sight-see and have a Good Time. They have no real interest in the culture and history. It’s just something to do because others do it and brag about it. Just some place to visit on a honeymoon or budget group tour.

    Muslims go to Mecca, but it’s not tourism. It is a pilgrimage. It’s the Hajj. It has meaning and purpose. Islam is a living faith and culture. And Muslims are still alive in body despite wars and famines resulting from Wars for Israel. They are alive in soul.
    Apart from the West, the other part of the world that is dead in body and soul is East Asia that is most adept at imitating not only the best but the worst tendencies of the West. East Asia is better at making plastic products than organic souls. The way Japan is going, it will be replaced by robots, cartoon characters, Filipinos, Nepalese, and Africans. And Singapore will eventually be majority Hindu and Muslim(without infusion of New Chinese from the Mainland, which is also plummeting fast in population, especially among those with higher IQ).

    European Churches stand empty. Almost no one shows up for services. This is true in Britain, France, Spain, and London. Ireland now worships globo-homomania and Afro-mania more than the Catholic Faith. It prefers black culture over Irish roots and history. It’s all very tragic and sad. The luck of the Irish is now about having some homo Hindu as leader. It is even prouder that they democratically voted for ‘gay marriage’ that implies a homo’s anus is just as much a sex organ as a woman’s vagina.

    When people look back on the fall of the modern world, they will wonder how and why it happened. And the reasons will be(not in any particular order):

    1. Feminism that destroyed jobs and respect for men.

    2. Low birthrates due to feminism.

    3. Cult of Diversity and Mass-Immigration-invasion.

    4. Jewish take-over of elite institutions and re-coding of National Formula into minority-elite-supremacism and favoring the Other over the Our.

    5. The siren song and dong of the Negro that spread Jungle Fever among white women and cuckery among white men. People who welcome Negroes in large numbers will turn their cities into Detroits.

    6. Youth Culture that infantilized the population to the point where even educated people get tattoos and piercings. And green or purple hair.

    7. Dominance of finance that distorted and warped real economies and industries.

    8. The New Elitism whereby elites of every nation despised their own folk and formed a global Elysium Club of privilege and decadence.

    9. Globo-Homo degeneracy that degraded truth, morality, decency, and sanity.

    10. The Cult of Novelty that made people obsess over the new thrill over a culture of continuity and memory.

    • 回复: @E_Perez
  144. anon[993]• 免责声明 说:
    @Iris

    The Catholic Church has done more beneficial activities than any other institution in human history

    It is a fact. The Catholic Church has a worldwide network of charities second only to the United Nations’

    .

    are they responsible for third world populations spiraling out of control?

    beneficial, lol

    • 回复: @Alden
  145. Seraphim 说:
    @Anon

    You celebrate it by wanking, as usual. Some perverts are sexually aroused by fire!

    • 回复: @Anon
  146. Polemos 说:
    @Fran Taubman

    Let loose an old moose to catch the grey goose
    But choose not to use this rhyming ruse, you lose.

  147. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @Rational

    The root evil is the Torah (Old Testament), sure — and the Old is referenced by Jewish storytellers 4,105倍 in the Jew Testament; thus, the evil is infused throughout the whole Bible.

    • 回复: @Zumbuddi
  148. Polemos 说:
    @Alden

    Whatever; the fact remains that the calvinists and American pilgrims were not Christian as they did not believe that Jesus was god, only the god of israel.

    Suppose the god of israel is Jesus. What happens then?

    Do you think Calvin is saying ‘the God of Israel’ as you quote him (from what source?) refers to some being or entity or thing or person who is 不能 神?

    How do you understand the Trinity? Who are some of the proponents of the Trinitarian model you’re familiar with?

  149. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @Seraphim

    Jew-worshipers like you gonna Jew. You’re more pathetic than Elizabeth Warren identifying as an Injun. (Philippians 3:3 “For it is we who are the Circumcision.”)

  150. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @Art

    The Church has a gay problem because priests are pederasts like Jesus. Go ask at a 精液-ary some time.

    • 巨魔: Iris
    • 回复: @anon
  151. Alden 说:
    @Art

    Never baptized, commie milieu growing up you’re right about the non religious benefits of the Catholic Church and some Protestant churches such as the widespread Lutheran and Protestants who call themselves Christian in this country. Who have built an alternative school system to the public school system.

    The calendar we use today was adjusted from the old Julius cessation calendar in the Vatican observatory by catholic priest mathematicians and astronomers. Only the Vatican had the observatory astronomers and mathematicians capable of developing a new calendar. Non Europeans had observatories and astronomers but none had the equipment and scientists the Vatican had.

    And what were calvinists and Protestants doing while the Catholics created the greatest scientific development of the time, the calendar?

    They were obsessing over and mightily enjoying the sex and violence of the Jewish part of the Bible. Which by the way, was written in 250BC adapted from various middle eastern folk tales.

    There’s an old French saying: Don’t listen to what he says, look at what he does.

    From a non believer’s view, Protestants talk about whatever while the Catholics built hospitals schools towns harbors bridges windmills water mills charitable organizations sponsored the development of technology and architecture adjusted the calendar, sent Vosco de Gama Magellan and Columbus to discover the world. The Roman church worked with Regean and Lech Walesa, elected that Polish Pope, destroyed the Soviet Union and freed 11 European countries from the Beast from the East while the most important Protestant churches did nothing

    Discover the world, be the only observatory in the entire world capable of creating a new calendar, building an entire American school system safe from the black IRC’s, about 70% of American hospitals and playing a great part in destroying the Soviet Union it’s quite an organization.

    And what do most Protestants do? Obsess over the Jewish bible hate the Church of Rome and don’t even bother establishing hospitals or educating their own children away from the public schools

  152. Miggle 说:
    @Miggle

    And what was the punishment meted out to Irish who 做了 convert to Calvinism?

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Seraphim
  153. Alden 说:
    @anon

    I think Bill Gates is not catholic . He’s contributing to the African population explosion. So is every European including Russian our American and even the Chinese government. So have the Protestant churches. The American Methodists had a big China missionary project going as early as 1820.

    It should all be stopped immediately.

    Melinda Gates is a moron. Feed clothe house and medicate them and hope they’ll use condoms. Or remember to take the pill. Or consent to an IUD.

    If the Gates charity required every woman and girl over 12 to get both an IUD and the implant thing to get any type of aid it might be OK might. Require every man who got charity to coerce a woman to get the implant and IUD.

  154. wayfarer 说:

    问题: What happens after you die?
    回答: Rebirth, along with baggage from your previous life.

  155. @FB

    Ron Unz discovers his readership’s grasp on reality…

    Same goes for the article itself. Stopped reading the trash after a few paragraphs, and gave up after skimming some of the the comments, but was interested in what RU had to say.

    • 回复: @Iris
  156. @Budd Dwyer

    That may well be your experience but there are countless instances worldwide where priests under suspicion of child molestation have simply been relocated to other districts and have carried on their vile games with children of either sex. This qualifies as enabling child abuse.

    In my opinion the safeguarding of children is job number one with no exceptions. Nobody should put any child in a position of risk which would allow any contact with a priest under suspicion. Most parents with children involved in the church are not going to church seeking to grift money they are there as supporters and believers of the stated mission of the church. Many parents reporting sexual abuse by priests have not received the compassionate support that they expected but were treated contemptuously instead in an attempt to cover it up and in hoping that the matter would go no further.

    Cardinal Pell in Australia even developed a church policy to make small and timely payoffs to minimise exposure and damages to the church, and this is just one example of many instances where the abused child is further victimised in the interests of protecting the church.

    The church is destroying itself regardless of outside attempts. Bishop John Shelby Spong has written a great deal on how Christianity, by insisting that things should be taken literally when they were only ever intended not to be has lost many potential future churchgoers and falling attendances supports that.

  157. Seraphim 说:
    @Sergey Krieger

    The truth is that Lenin was both: paid by the German Jewish bankers from America and German agent paid by the same Jewish German bankers from Germany.

  158. @FB

    I lent (no pun intended) you one

    • 哈哈: FB
  159. anon[154]• 免责声明 说:
    @Sergey Krieger

    some of these crazies even claim Lenin was part jewish himself, lol

  160. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Batter down sound social practices? That is exactly what the radical, fanatical Rabbi Jewsus did. (“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters–yes, even their own life–such a person cannot be my disciple.” -Luke 14:26) Good riddance.

  161. anon[154]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    The Church has a gay problem because priests are pederasts like Jesus. Go ask at a semen-ary some time.

    how do you know, someone told you?

    or that drawing convinced you?

    • 回复: @Anon
  162. @anon

    It is not just male children who’ve been targeted, there are countless examples of girls too.

    During times when homosexuality was much less tolerated than it is today joining the church as a priest appealed to gay men who were thus freed from awkward explanations on why they haven’t taken a wife. Obviously not all priests have been offenders but how many is acceptable?

  163. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alden

    Calvinists are not Christians, true. Furthermore, no Christian is a real Christian, except the one Christian—and maybe a few of his friends that think 究竟 like he does at the moment—that you’re talking to. Even the bickering writers of the Jew Testament can’t agree on whose a real Christian.

    • Ephesians 2:8-9 “saved through faith…not by works=
    • James 2:24 “by works a man is justified, and not by faith 只要”

    LOL! I say, collect all 176 ways—sometimes contradictory!—to get yourself saved, just to be sure!

    176 ways to get yourself saved
    Steve Wells (2015)
    http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html

  164. @Alden

    If the first sex occurs at too young an age it can lead to conflicting feelings of both pleasure and shame. Sex is for adults not children, could it really be any simpler than that?

    • 回复: @Daniel Rich
  165. Iris 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Hi Jacques; Joyeuses Paques.

    Did you notice, the galvanised steel scaffolding on top of Notre-Dame has been engulfed in flames for over 4 hours, and hasn’t collapsed even a bit ?

    Not like the “flimsy” reinforced steel structure of the 2 magic towers, which gave up in 30 minutes without flames being even visible…

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @tac
  166. Skeptikal 说:

    ” It might be that there are crooks who happen to be Jews, but that doesn’t make them ‘Jewish crooks’, ”

    Let’s just cut to the chase and riposte “paedophile priests” with “paedophile rabbis.”
    Esp. the ones to oversee the circumcisions. Yech. But plenty of others, too.

    • 回复: @wayfarer
  167. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    Never read the Jew Testament? (John 13:23-25 says: “There was reclining on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved….He, leaning back thus on Jesus’ bosom…”) Google images of Jesus+John+Beloved. Then Google images of Zeus+Ganymede. See any difference? Older bearded man, younger beardless boy, a.k.a., pederasty. Of course, Jew worshipers will say: “Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes!” Not to mention all of Jewish Rabbi Jesus’ other sexually perverse teachings, such as castrating yourself, no straight marriage, no reproduction, etc.

  168. Alden 说:
    @Miggle

    No punishment to Irish who converted to Calvinism or the Anglican Church of Ireland. Like the English and Scots settlers they were given, not sold to at vastly reduced price but given the property of Catholics.

    Another great advantage was that virtually every occupation but attorney and unskilled laborer was forbidden to Catholics so the skilled trades and professions were affirmative action for Protestants. We White Americans all know about affirmative action don’t we?

    Protestants could breed as many cows, pigs sheep chickens they could and keep them. They could breed or but whatever horses they could afford instead of being restricted to just one low value horse.
    The great thing about live stock is they have babies the babes grow up and can be eaten by the family and sold for cash or traded. It’s the whole point of owning livestock and farming.

    Long before the potato famines that occurred ever few decades, the English embarked on a policy of restricting food, especially animal protein from Irish Catholics by forbidding from owning enough live stock to feed themselves and sell for cash.

    Also, Catholics were forbidden to fish in lakes and rivers, only in the ocean. Again a formal policy of restricting food.

    The penal laws as they were called only applied to Catholics. It didn’t apply to native Irish who converted. They could be starving beggars disposed of their property and forbidden to work at anything but unskilled labor one day and a couple weeks after conversion they were given property or the men and boys allowed to learn a trade.

    After Cromwell died and the crown and Church of England was restored, all the Calvinists, Presbyterians and other Old Testament devotees were required to suddenly convert to the Irish branch of the Church of England, the Church of Ireland.

    They were absolutely horrified. Music in church, Jesus, the New Testament crosses special outfit for the preacher, even a picture of Jesus Christmas and Easter festivals. Pagan papist festivals and idolatry!!!

    Some decamped to America, especially the descendants of the Scots Presbyterians brought to Ireland by James 1. Most reluctantly accepted the Church of Ireland as is it was a crime punishable by a substantial fine not to attend the Church of Ireland. That was the same system inaugurated by Henry 8 to encourage wide spread conversion to his church, it continued for a couple centuries.

    The fine was sliding scale not a set sum. So the wealthy couldn’t just pay the fine. The fines were set according to income and net worth. The amount bankrupted those who refused to attend Anglican services long enough. So most people went to the Anglican Church enough to avoid the fine.

    The church of Ireland didn’t really prevail. The Protestant Irish went to the church of Ireland but there was a thriving underground Calvinist OT obsession that went on for centuries the church of Ireland accommodated the Calvinism of the congregations. Every once on a while the arch bishop of the church of Ireland had to order the clergy to be less Calvinist.

    The English treated indigenous Irish who stayed Catholics totally differently from indigenous Irish who converted.

    I became interested in the English treatment of Irish Catholics and the Bolshevik treatment of Russians and kulaks a when Satan’s minions on earth established affirmative action.

    There are many parallels Many jobs forbidden, which results in poverty in a few generations welfare and benefits given only to non Whites, even illegal aliens a constant hate Whites they are evil . That’s no different from the constant the Roman church is evil
    Pagan idol worshippers not “biblical Christians” or wanna be Jews. What we read every day about the inherent evilness of Whites in the NYTimes is do different from what the English Protestants said about the Irish Catholics for 350 years.

    Whites are the kulaks. We aren’t class enemies as in Russia, we’re race enemies of the people who run the world.

    But we can’t join the Protestant church or the communist party or BLM and other far left justice and progressive democrats and escape prosecution as the Irish Catholics became Irish Anglicans. We can’t change our race. We can check the black box for a job or college admission. It almost always works. I think HR is happy to have a good White worker and count him as black in the forms sent to EEOC, FEPCs and the rest of the affirmative action gestapo.

    The Russian revolution was very fast. Just 2 years and the Cheka was slaughtering resistants and it continued for 20 years. The English ruled Ireland for centuries without genocidal policies. Elizabeth 1 let the Irish Catholics alone James and Charles settled Scots Calvinist rebel’s there but let the Catholics alone.

    Then Calvinist Cromwell came along and the policy of genocide by starvation and protein deprivation was enacted and went on 300 years.

    Look at how black on White crime is aided abetted and encouraged. look at the millions of White children terrorized by the black animals in the gladiator public schools under school desegregation and school bussing

    The parallels with American policies towards White Americans are obvious. The liberals just don’t have the police and military on their side yet.

    Incidentally, that woman who harassed the man in the MAGA hat was co-chair of the Bay Area Progressive Democrats

  169. Alden 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Did we read the same one? It said 1537 convicted and branded. Not just gossip.

    The crypto Jew thing who knows who cares. My point is that anyone who states there is but one God and that is the God of Israel isn’t a Christian. There’s a gazillion christian sects but that Jesus is god is the basis of Christianity

    Calvin made that statement during the endless reformation debates about theology. Some reformers thought the Holy Ghost member of the trinity was just ridiculous and should be discarded. Others thought Jesus was just a prophet and not a God man and therefore not God. That’s the same as Hercules, and all the other children Zeus fathered on mortal women. Calvin didn’t believe Jesus was God. Therefore he wasn’t a Christian.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Anonymous
  170. “It’s amazing, the liberals have always supported NAMBLA man boy love association and worship homosexuals the way the worship MLK but they denounce homosexual priests who practiced man boy ickiness.”

    A couple of comments here.

    1. Very few people are aware on NAMBLA. I generally feel cultish and creepy when I reference the organization. The SC decisions regarding same relational marriages gave them a huge boost, sadly.

    2. Dr./Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. advocacy had nothing to do with advancing the agenda of those who choose same sex relations — nothing. It was not part of his civil rights agenda and never would have been.

    3. As former scout, I find the choice regarding this unnatural behavior a tragic turn of events for the scouts. Some much for the rules, conditions and ethos of nature and the natural world. I never met a single scout, or troop leader who was anything but singularly mended about scouting and its principles.

    4. The child scandals that occurred throughout the seventies and eighties were largely overblown and over-hyped scandals that did the country irrevocable harm and set the stage for the psychiatric and psychological community to really begin experimenting with human psyche – and we have given them considerable more weight than the evidence demands in the area of human behavior.

    5. It is also little understood press that the most damaging changes to the country have not been advanced by blacks. But by the same sex community and women, largely white women. Both groups have used the history of blacks to make their cases. And I suspect the only reason they have been as successful as they are is because they have been influential whites. The APA reclassification, abortion both in 1973 along with to Kinsey report (1950’s) and subsequent studies were not part of anything blacks sought with regards to civil rights.

    ----------

    And nothing in the OT or the NT suggests that same sex relational behavior is condoned or acceptable as a matter of faith and practice.

    • 回复: @anon
  171. “Batter down sound social practices? That is exactly what the radical, fanatical Rabbi Jewsus did. (“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters–yes, even their own life–such a person cannot be my disciple.” -Luke 14:26) Good riddance.”

    You as usual, of course, completely way off on my comments.

    1. It was not a question.

    2. it was not something I was advocating but describing as to the advocacy of others.

    3. Your scriptural reference has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Not even remotely and requires no response.

    -------------

    The scripture verse simply means one should follow Christ above all else. And following Christ may put one at odds with family. No has to literally hate their family to follow christ. You might want to read some other versions of scripture to get a broader and richer view of what any particular text is saying.

    But then that requires some personal investment that might possibly bring you into a relationship with Christ where you can take your personal animosities about Christ, God and faith.

    • 回复: @Anon
  172. Seraphim 说:
    @Miggle

    They will have the same fate like all deniers of Christ.

    • 回复: @Anon
  173. @renfro

    I would be extremely upset if an adult woman went after my son, but my wife is the one she would have to look out for. If a grown man touched either of my daughters, jail is the best place for him to be.

    As a teen, I wasn’t attracted to adults, though I noticed how many 30 and 40 something women looked at me. There is also the fact that most were married, had children, or both, and I always thought it is wrong to involve yourself in the lives of others. Society has really broken down.

    • 回复: @renfro
  174. anon[154]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    5. It is also little understood press that the most damaging changes to the country have not been advanced by blacks. But by the same sex community and women, largely white women. Both groups have used the history of blacks to make their cases. And I suspect the only reason they have been as successful as they are is because they have been influential whites. The APA reclassification, abortion both in 1973 along with to Kinsey report (1950’s) and subsequent studies were not part of anything blacks sought with regards to civil rights.

    odd that you left jews out of the equation

  175. wayfarer 说:
    @Skeptikal

    “Jewish Rabbi and Mayors Arrested for Selling and Harvesting Organs”

    • 回复: @Republic
  176. Ron Unz 说:
    @Alden

    Did we read the same one? It said 1537 convicted and branded. Not just gossip.

    First, I should emphasize that except for vague recollections of what I’d read in my old History 101 textbooks, I’m totally ignorant of the subject. For example, I’d had the impression that Calvin was Swiss, but when I glanced at Wikipedia, I was surprised to discover he was actually French.

    But the Heidelblog website to which that you (and Google) directed me discusses the issue at length, and the writer is apparently a professor of theology and seems quite knowledgeable.

    https://heidelblog.net/2012/11/was-calvin-a-homosexual-convict/

    He quotes the accusations at considerable length, evaluates the sources, and concludes that they are of poor quality and contradictory, citing numerous scholars with regard to that evidence.

    Given my extreme ignorance of the period in question, I really can’t render a solid judgment. But offhand the Heidelblog writer seems pretty persuasive.

    Also, if Calvin had actually been convicted of sodomy as a young man and branded, I’d think that would have been a leading item in all Catholic propaganda denouncing him and his followers. After all, branded sodomites are hardly likely to attract too many devote Christian followers, and the factual reality of the brand would have been pretty difficult to dispute.

  177. @Anon

    Quote: And he thinks it’s okay for grown 20 something female teachers to have sex with their 13 and 15 year old male students?

    Reply: Dang! Now I gotta find me a new, non-sticky keyboard.

    As to the Church and sex, my advice would be [to the church, not you]: write an erotic version of Ramadan into the annals of your religious edicts [no sex between dawn till dusk for a month and the rest of the year, ‘bombs away’]. Problems solved [well, most of them].

  178. anon[343]• 免责声明 说:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    I see that someone even agrees to your stupidity .

    DdI that rabbi send you here ?

  179. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Requires no response? Is that what kept you to only seven paragraphs on your response? LOL

    Might possibly bring you into a relationship with Christ… Not a chance! I’m not a Jew-worshiping faggot like you who wants to be a boy-Bride of a swarthy Jewish Rabbi. Ever wonder why Rabbi Jewsus 禁止异性恋 (Mt. 22:23-30) for his boy-lover Brides like you in his fabled heaven, hmm? While condemning normal reproduction. (Mt. 24:19, Mark 13:17, Luke 21:23; 23:29) Jewsus would have fit right into the perverted culture of San Francisco.

  180. @NoseytheDuke

    I fully agree with your sentiments of children being kept out of [and far away from] adult sexual adventures. That’s a no-brainer, right off the bat.

    From a natural/nature pov, do you agree with the notion of an animal having reached maturity, the moment it’s ready to reproduce?

    I had a talk, a while ago, with a [female] friend of mine, who happens to be a teacher at a nearby elementary school. She said they were facing a problem, because girls are beginning to get their first period act an increasingly younger age. The youngest being 9 years [so far]. This creates a dilemma of sorts, as nature and my natural instincts have a head-on collision. Nature tells me, ‘Go ahead, she’s ready to become pregnant.’ and I’m saying, “No ff-ing way!”

    As this phenomenon is instigated and regulated by hormones in the girl’s body, the question is, what’s going on?

    Various theories out there, but I leave them out of this reply.

    • 回复: @renfro
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @Iris
  181. anon[343]• 免责声明 说:
    @Fran Taubman

    Poland loves the Jews . Jews loves the Polish . I have heard it from the Jews ?

    Who did it hear from ? Yourself the Jew?

    • 回复: @Fran Taubman
  182. renfro 说:
    @Iris

    We can credit the Catholic Church with several things.
    Those not familiar with ancient history are probably not aware that the church established the first formal universities in the world going back to BC. A lot of them centered in the cathedrals. They were spread outside of Rome around the world in 1500’s after the formation of the Jesuits who were tasked with educating and converting.

    However the Muslims were the first to develop a alphabet in Egypt around 2000 B.C. from a hieroglyphic prototype.

    Throw in the Greeks concentration on ethics and philosophy after that and we have the 3
    main precursors’ of todays academics.

    • 回复: @Anon
  183. anon[343]• 免责声明 说:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    Do you know the Jews used to say same thing about the Christin to the Muslim citizen of the Moorish Spain ?

  184. renfro 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    but my wife is the one she would have to look out for.

    同样在这里。
    And yes society has broken down.

  185. Anon[163]• 免责声明 说:
    @Seraphim

    一样 命运,说你吗?

    Ecclesiastes 3:19-21 “Surely the 命运 of human beings is like that of the animals; 同样的命运 awaits them both…”

    Deny Christ? Don’t deny Christ? Chase your own tail? Eat eucalyptus leaves? Worship a Jew? Purr when petted? Gallop across the plains? Worship a rock? Shed your skin on a warm rock? Swing from tree branches? “The same fate.” Don’t blame me, it’s in the Bible. 🙂

  186. “Might possibly bring you into a relationship with Christ… Not a chance! I’m not a Jew-worshiping faggot like you who wants to be a boy-Bride of a swarthy Jewish Rabbi. Ever wonder why Rabbi Jewsus bans straight sex (Mt. 22:23-30) for his boy-lover Brides like you in his fabled heaven, hmm? While condemning normal reproduction. (Mt. 24:19, Mark 13:17, Luke 21:23; 23:29) Jewsus would have fit right into the perverted culture of San Francisco.”

    As has been a constant hurdle for you regarding reading. You don’t seem to have firm grasp on what a metaphor is.

    Nor is your understanding of intimate relations as to scripture in any manner accurate. There is no prohibition of relations or the desire between men and women. There are very specific contexts in which such expression should be engaged in full.

    Because of the value of marriage, it serves as primary metaphor in the old testament and the new to describe the nature of the relationship that God desires with his people. And based on scripture there is nothing mundane, earthly about it in regards to human nature. I suppose you know this but are so hurt and angered about some personal event with someone or persons of faith, it over rides your reason on the matter. Christ is always available to hash it out with him. You are not alone in this.

    And apparently you are wholly unaware of the christian dynamic in SF or you wouldn’t make the peculiar comments you have. Again in complete contradiction with reality.

    • 回复: @Anon
  187. renfro 说:
    @Daniel Rich

    From a natural/nature pov, do you agree with the notion of an animal having reached maturity, the moment it’s ready to reproduce?

    No. Animals that breed too young frequently die in birthing. Cats and dogs can be impregnated before they are a year old….BUT….although they can be impregnated their organs, including reproductive organs and muscles are not 充分 developed till they are a year old.

    • 回复: @Daniel Rich
  188. @Daniel Rich

    Nature knows exactly what to do but does that always align with what we want out of life? Animals are a different matter. A very young woman may well have a healthy child at an early age and her body bounce back just fine afterwards yet she may well be better off in the long-term if she waits a while until she’s more mature, for many good reasons but especially for the wellbeing of her child.

    Early menstruation may well be initiated by chemicals mimicking hormones but that’s well out of my understanding so I’ll leave it to the expects to discuss.

    A lot of the concern over children and sex comes from the different power equation between adults and children, especially when the adult is in a position of trust and having influence such as a priest or teacher is. I’ve known a few teenagers who were surprisingly mature for their age and a few thirty somethings who were incredibly immature. It’s quite natural for kids to be curious and play around with one another but when an adult exploits that curiosity it is not OK with me, indeed I think it’s very creepy behaviour.

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @Daniel Rich
    , @Art
  189. ” . . . odd that you left jews out of the equation . . .”

    Well, in our contemporary understanding the jews in question are probably all white. There are black jews but none in the forefront of advocacy involved in advancing the issues I mentioned.

    • 回复: @anon
  190. Note: nothing requires worshiping Jews, Israel is required to have fellowship with Christ.

  191. Iris 说:
    @Daniel Rich

    This creates a dilemma of sorts, as nature and my natural instincts have a head-on collision.

    This sort of “dilemma” exists only in the sick mind of manipulative, narcissistic adults who make up excuses to use children and teenagers for their own sexual gratification.

    There is no way a child, or even a teenager, can ever feel any “sexual” attraction towards an adult. They can be confused when in emotional distress, but this only makes the adult abusing them even more despicable.

    Physical maturity is not the criterion to start having a sexual life. We are a conscious species who reaches intellectual and emotional maturity much later in life, and only this maturity can protect from being badly damaged by others. Creepy adults need to leave children out of their creepy fantasies.

  192. Giuseppe 说:
    @Polemos

    Are corporations legally devised shields for liability, not crime? Are the widows of a parish guilty of a priest’s crime against a boy?

    But the Church cannot be stained by the foul deeds committed Her servants. If a priest abuses a boy then the crime is his crime, not that of the Church. Likewise, if a soldier abuses a boy it is not the fault of the army, and if a politician abuses a boy the nation is not to blame.

    • 回复: @Polemos
  193. Iris 说:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Early menstruation may well be initiated by chemicals mimicking hormones but that’s well out of my understanding

    It seems to be a health problem caused by increased intake of sugary drinks, which in turn increases the production of sexual hormones. And it is linked to excessive weight, increased risk of diabetes and higher likelihood of breast cancer. So nothing particularly pleasant for the teenagers affected.

    In Human Reproduction: “Sugar-sweetened beverage consumption and age at menarche in a prospective study of US girls=

    https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/30/3/675/661239

    • 回复: @Daniel Rich
  194. Zumbuddi 说:
    @Anon

    Theologians in National Socialist Germany started a movement to remove the Jewish / Hebrew influence from Christianity as expressed by Germans.

    Zionist Jews lambasted this movement as antisemitic (!).

  195. @renfro

    I agree, nevertheless, a possibility of becoming pregnant at an early age is a realistic one, even if it results in death. I agree with NoseytheDuke, higher up this thread: an adult should never, ever exploit a child’s curiosity [one way or the other] and in religious circles/cases, the persp were sent elsewhere too many times, to label them erroneous and honest mistakes.

  196. mcohen 说:

    There is no connection between God and relegion.One is a man made social construct.The other a divine force that has always existed.

    No single relegion is the universal truth otherwise all mankind would believe in that one single truth.

    Survival comes first,relegion gives the will and intent to survive.

    God is gravity.Humans interact with God using highly emotional states that activate our own gravitational force located in the crown of our heads similar to the halo depicted in pictures of holy people.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_(religious_iconography)

    I know this through personal experience.

  197. Anonymous [AKA "Kilford"] 说:
    @Logan

    Wrong: Rachel was not 7 when she married. Too young, she had yet to reach puberty. According to Talmudic literature, she was 20 or 21 when she married, and other sources say she may have been 18. https://www.quora.com/How-old-were-Rebecca-Sarah-Leah-and-Rachel-when-they-were-married

  198. @anon

    Poland does not love the Jews and the Jews do not love Poland.
    It’s a relativity issue. Poles recognize the Jews are on the front line against the real enemy Islam and the crazy Jew haters on UR

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Mulegino1
    , @Art
    , @anon
  199. @Iris

    Did you notice, the galvanised steel scaffolding on top of Notre-Dame has been engulfed in flames for over 4 hours, and hasn’t collapsed even a bit ?

    Didn’t notice, but thanks for pointing it out. Remarkable. However, I don’t think any planes hit it in dramatic fashion! (Wink, wink.)

    I did, however, notice the 定时 of the “accident” and also the fact that hundreds of churches in France are subjected to various forms of vandalism each year. I also noticed that the US-Zionist supported Taliban destroyed Buddhist rock carvings in Pakistan and Afghanistan and that was one reason they were supposedly declared enemies of the US and Afghanistan “had” to be invaded, but that’s probably “off topic” and my conspiracy-minded paranoia showing. 😉

    καλό Πάσχα!

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @Anon
  200. Anon[293]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “What a metaphor is:” ad hoc excuse-making for embarrassing scriptural passages. If it is embarrassing, it’s a metaphor! “So hurt and angered.” The constant refrain of retards who believe in Jewish magic, and are totally butthurt that their intellectual betters do not believe in Jewish magic. “You are wholly unaware of the christian dynamic.” So much for being hurt and angered. Can you stick with just one story for more than three seconds, shitbird?

  201. 更正:

    Note: nothing requires worshiping Jews or Israel, is required to have fellowship with Christ.

  202. @j2

    And how did the Knights Templars end up being associated with Freemasonry? I thought they were medieval Christian warrior monks. Why would they end up as Masons who are anti-Christian? Surely they didn’t fight in the Crusades so as the have the Jews rebuild the temple or for some Great Architect, they fought for Christ and Christianity. Isn’t it a misrepresentation to associate them with masonry?

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
    , @Gordo
    , @j2
  203. Anon[293]• 免责声明 说:
    @renfro

    The first formal universities? Wrong.

    The University of Al Quaraouiyine, founded in Morocco by Fatima al-Fihri in 859, is considered by some to be the oldest degree-granting university.[12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University#Antecedents

    Those not familiar with ancient history are probably not aware. Like you?

    • 回复: @Anon
  204. @Polemos

    can I hold Microsoft or Amazon or Monsanto guilty of fraud or malfeasance or only individuals employed by them?

    既然你问...

    Yes, you can sue the corporations on corporate, or vicarious, liability – the business equivalent of collective group guilt. And you can do that because that’s what the law says.

    But “The law is an ass,” and it should be shot and it’s stinking, corrupt, putrefied Jewish stable should be burnt down.

    别客气。

    • 回复: @Polemos
  205. yurivku 说:
    @Vojkan

    同意

    Remove the Jews and you’ll see the problem doesn’t go away.

    But this is fantastic and hardly imaginable

  206. Heymrguda 说:
    @Hibernian

    Yeah, that’s why so many Irish have emigrated to countries found by scots or English protestants, because they hate us so much.
    As far as this Notre dame controversy is concerns, I personally have no dog in this fight, I have little in common with Judaism or RC.

    • 回复: @anon
  207. @Hibernian

    Poor thing. How did you ever manage to learn English?

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  208. @Commentator Mike

    And I thought the US Congress represented the people. Secret societies are secret for a reason. The French King and the Pope condemned the Knights Templar because they, like others we know, were a state within a state. Not everything is what it seems, is it, Mike?

    • 同意: Commentator Mike
  209. @A123

    Jews have a long history of pretending to be someone else, don’t they A123?

  210. Whenever we read yhe obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucherie, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which the torah is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of evil, than the word of god.

  211. anon[315]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    好吧,在 在水底采捕业协会(UHA)的领导下, contemporary understanding…

    what does it mean when you say “our” here instead of “my”?

  212. Gordo 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    Masonry appropriated from the Knights Templar. There is no real lineage.

  213. anon[315]• 免责声明 说:
    @Heymrguda

    Yeah, that’s why so many Irish have emigrated to countries found by scots or English protestants, because they hate us so much.

    if they don’t, they should

  214. Anon[192]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    叹息。

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Constantinople

    A few scholars have gone so far as calling the Pandidakterion the first “university” in the world, but this view does not take into account that the Byzantine centers of higher learning generally lacked the corporative structure of the medieval universities of Western Europe which were the first to use the Latin term universitas for the corporations of students and masters that came to define the institutional character of the university thereafter.[7][8] Nonetheless, the Dictionnaire encyclopédique du Moyen Âge tentatively identifies the Pandidakterion of 425 AD as a “university institution”.[8]

  215. anon[315]• 免责声明 说:
    @Fran Taubman

    Poland does not love the Jews and the Jews do not love Poland.
    It’s a relativity issue.

    Poland doesn’t hate the jews as much as other countries do?

  216. Iris 说:
    @jacques sheete

    my conspiracy-minded paranoia showing.

    You are not paranoid; the fire at Notre-Dame is extremely puzzling and definitely suspect.

    1) 火灾探测系统中的“错误”在第一次报警时将响应者发送到错误的位置。 他们失去了 20 多分钟才意识到火灾是真的。 到那时已经太晚了。

    2) A fire needs fuel, oxygen and ignition. The only source of power present in the building that could have provided ignition is the electrical supply. In the construction area where the fire started, it had been switched off, locked and handed back to the Cathedral’s security.

    3) 正如最初认为的那样,没有进行焊接或其他热加工。

    4)调查人员现在猜测该地区有一名流氓建筑工人非法吸烟,但这是一个不可接受的解释:厚实的木材无法用这么少的能量着火。

    5) 在这样一座历史建筑中,不会存放任何可能引发火灾的易燃产品。

    意外发生的火灾没有任何意义。 很可能是一个身份不明的入侵者故意将带有点火延迟器的装置放在那里。

    https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Notre-Dame-de-Paris-quelques-rappels-de-chimie-physique-et-geometrie-54456.html

  217. Mulegino1 说:
    @Fran Taubman

    Poles recognize the Jews are on the front line against the real enemy Islam

    In that case, the Poles are deceived, as they were back in 1939.

    The Jews are indeed on the front lines with respect to radical so called 圣战分子, to whom they provide support and encouragement, provided the fight is against Christians and the other Muslims who reject murderers such as ISIS and Al Quaeda. The number one enemy of the Jews has always been traditional Christianity, whether in its Catholic or Orthodox manifestation. The number two enemy has always been those Muslims who oppose Israeli hegemony, as exemplified in the Jewish polemics against Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis, etc. It is no coincidence that Israel now has very friendly ties with the absolute barbarians in Riyadh. The Israeli-Saudi love affair represents the perfect chemical nuptials between the Wahhabi hatred for so called “infidels” and the Jew hatred for the non-kosher world, as manifested in the Talmud.

  218. anon[315]• 免责声明 说:

    It is no coincidence that Israel now has very friendly ties with the absolute barbarians in Riyadh. The Israeli-Saudi love affair represents the perfect chemical nuptials between the Wahhabi hatred for so called “infidels” and the Jew hatred for the non-kosher world, as manifested in the Talmud.

    the rumor is that the Saudi royals are actually Talmudic jews

  219. Art 说:

    US politicians refuse to use the “C” word.

    One Word Noticeably Absent As Trump, Obama, Hillary And 2020 Democrats Respond To Sri Lanka Attacks

    More than 200 people were murdered on Easter Sunday as a series of coordinated attacks were executed against churches and hotels in Sri Lanka. As statements condemning the attacks poured in, one word was notably missing from many of them.

    Former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and nearly all of the 2020 Democratic hopefuls tweeted in response to the attacks, and although at least some of the bombings specifically targeted Christians on the holiest day of the year — Easter Sunday — hardly any of their tweets mentioned 基督教.

    奥巴马: 斯里兰卡对游客和复活节崇拜者的袭击是对人类的袭击。 在一个致力于爱、救赎和复兴的日子里,我们为受害者祈祷并与斯里兰卡人民站在一起。

    希拉里: On this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred and violence. I’m praying for everyone affected by today’s horrific attacks on Easter worshippers and travelers in Sri Lanka

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/22/obama-clinton-2020-candidates-sri-lanka-bombings-christians-churches/

    This is not happenstance. Those people know what they are doing. They are pushing the empty brave new world. “Christianity” must be politically and symptomatically erased from human consciousness.

    Hmm! The world works better with idealistic Christian philosophy, then without it!

    思考和平-艺术

    思考和平-艺术

    • 回复: @anon
  220. j2 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    “And how did the Knights Templars end up being associated with Freemasonry?”

    It is a Freemason legend that has no historical basis. This legend was already around at the end of the 18th century and it probably was created because Templars were accused of heresy. Masons could have been accused of heresy, thus they thought there was some association.

    However, there is an association with Freemasonry and some real Knight Orders, such as the Lazarus Knights, the Malta Knights and so on. It is possible yet today to join a real knight order, which actually derives from a Medieval one, pay some money, do some charity, and to get there Masonic connections are helpful.

    Masons have also themselves created some (false) knight orders. It is very possible to join through Freemasonry to some order called with a name resembling Knights Templars, but does not have a connection to the old order. In a practical sense they do not differ from the real knight orders except for that you cannot carry the medals in official receptions as those orders are not recognized.

    Some Freemasons are interested on such orders and some are knights of real Medieval knight orders, whatever it means to them. Hope this explains

  221. Art 说:
    @Fran Taubman

    Poles recognize the Jews are on the front line against the real enemy Islam and the crazy Jew haters on UR

    Say Franny — the rest of the world is learning what the Poles already know – that the Jews live their Passover prayers 24/7/365.

    将你的忿怒倾倒在不认识你的列国和不求告你名的国度上; 因为他们吞噬了雅各,毁坏了他的居所。 将你的怒火倾倒在他们身上,让你的怒火笼罩他们。 愤怒地追赶他们,将他们从永恒者的天堂之下消灭。

    他们不止一次起来反对我们,要毁灭我们; 每一代他们都起来反对我们并寻求我们的毁灭。 但是圣者,祝福他,将我们从他们手中拯救出来。

    It is Jew against the world all the time. No people can thrive with the Jews amongst them.

    认为和平—无害—艺术

    • 回复: @JamesinNM
    , @anon
    , @ploni almoni
  222. anon[198]• 免责声明 说:
    @Fran Taubman

    Jews have been fighting for west while living in Poland Russia Hungary Baltics in 1912 and in 1936

    你是对的 。

    They also fought for Christianity in and around 1789 amd around 1874

    Right now they are fighting for them in Iran and Syria

    Not long ago the Jews fought for them in Iraq .

    • 回复: @anon
  223. JamesinNM 说:

    The content of the Quran and Talmud is very similar.

    • 回复: @anon
  224. anon[214]• 免责声明 说:
    @Art

    So Hillary said “Easter worshipers,” but didn’t specifically say “Christian Easter worshipers” as you demand. Are you completely retarded? Who else is celebrating Easter? Hindu Easter worshipers?

    • 回复: @Art
  225. JamesinNM 说:
    @Art

    Compare Romans 2:28-29 about real Jews who have changed hearts regardless of ethnicity, versus Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 about false Jews described as the Synagogue of Satan.

  226. anon[214]• 免责声明 说:
    @Art

    • Art: “Jews live their Passover prayers”
    • 1 Co. 5.7: “Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.”

    If no people can thrive with the Jews amongst them, then no people can survive with Rabbi Jewsus among them. You have said it yourself.

  227. @Alden

    由于搭便车的西班牙裔孩子的过度攻击,我的天主教孙子不得不改变私立天主教学校 3xs。 在盐湖城,同样如此。
    他们遭受摩门教徒的回避和虐待已经够糟糕的了,所以这就是导致他们最终逃离该地区的最重要的樱桃。

  228. anon[198]• 免责声明 说:
    @JamesinNM

    不尽然。

    There is no similarity beyond one God. And mutual respect for Jewish Prophets .

    Having said that anything that come after something on same issue will have a lot in common which by the time the second movement arrives , is already part of the moral fabric .

  229. 以色列,谢谢你 有趣 文章。 美国是第一个将骚扰、不必要的关注和强奸混为一谈的国家。 与很少外出的人群(纽约除外)的一般性挫败感有关。

    在其他国家这 具体的 mix 是对付敌人(英国、法国、德国)的工具。 强奸儿童的案例肯定有很多,包括恋童癖、异性恋和同性恋,但很明显,你指的不是这些。 Dutreaux,还有英国的Janner's ring。 这些是可憎且应受谴责的罪行,即使不是死刑,也应判处最严厉的监禁。

    现在谈谈你提出的几点。 瑞秋7岁就嫁给了雅各布? 哪里,你从哪里弄到这个的!? 这是一个公然的谎言以色列。 雅各寻求拉结的手,拉班强迫他做七年的契约奴役。 他得到了利亚作为他的新娘。 一个恶作剧。 拉班要求 另一个 瑞秋7年。 雅各布答应了。 这使得结婚前14年。 算一算。

    关于塔木德的结婚年龄。 这很复杂,你提供的是一个简化的、愚蠢的镜头。 我确切地知道你提到的部分 小册子和部分是公开的。 任何仔细阅读它们的人都会明白,您从事的是令人讨厌的字面意思。 以免我听起来像个道歉者,哈雷迪圈子里的恋童癖问题很严重,我不会为此道歉,也不赞成主流对这个问题的无知,这让各种拉比都免于通行证他们和他们的受害者应得的审查。 我想知道,一旦熟悉了这些故事/证据,您是否愿意篡改您的“骚扰不是问题”立场。 或者,如果有机会在我们自己的煎锅上歪曲犹太人对你来说太诱人了?

    “处女”玛丽的年龄。 问问天主教徒为什么他们不把她当作未成年人。 我怀疑有人曾经关注过这一点,互联网上的网站给出的平均年龄在 14 到 16 岁之间,根据你自己的说法,这完全没问题。

    伊斯兰教——智商最低的五分之一的宗教——夸大了对艾莎的购买。 别忘了,莫的第一任妻子是一只美洲狮,哈蒂亚,一个老妇人,她的嫁妆和地位造就了大疯子的事业、飞毯等等。 根据维基百科,他有 13 位妻子,其中 12 位在 Khadija 之后,据说他一直保持一夫一妻制(psst,不要提及“官方”妃子)。

    这就是以色列的问题。 你想为 Moohslims 拼命出去。 对于巴勒斯坦人。 就像我们亲爱的阿兰·索拉尔一样。 你从一个极端走向另一个极端。 阅读您的文章,人们会觉得是犹太人烧毁了大教堂的屋顶。

    这是一个延伸的以色列。 一个可怕的伸展。 犹太人为重建提供了大量资金。 来自巴西的 Safra 家族已分两期认捐,共计 40 万美元。 Bettencourt Meyer 家族几乎相同。 美国的犹太社区也在做出承诺。 你挑选一个拉比,拉比中最狂热的偏执狂,把他变成整个犹太教的代言人。 为了托拉,塔木德? 为什么要屈从于你的对手的水平?

    他们总是说,对于那些根本没有足够聪明来处理mitzvot负担的人来说,基督教是一种宗教。 虽然我不支持这样的观点(好吧,有时我支持,但每个人都可以接受这里的政治不正确,对吧?)你的扭曲让我想知道你是基于什么理由皈依拿撒勒人的信仰。 您是否可能对塔木德托拉一无所知? 如果是这样的话,你能不能请你有基督徒的诚实意识,不要再用你自己的犹太人身份来声称拥有这种知识? 即使是教皇也有更多的尊重,而且一直都有(从第一个到最后一个。)

    请注意,拿撒勒人已经完全放弃了自己的信仰。 许多人试图烧毁律法书,塔木德,并阻止犹太人了解律法书,我们坚持了! 再多的镇压都没有成功地违背我们的信仰。 为什么拿撒勒人这么容易折断?

    自殉道的头两个世纪以来,谁曾以这种方式迫害基督徒? 他们是如此可悲,以至于不得不责怪邪恶的犹太知识分子吗? 如果是这样,这是对他们自己的信仰(缺乏)和/或耶稣有缺陷的信息的衡量。 那些拒绝了他们祖先信仰的人(上述拿撒勒人)现在要么是无神论者,要么是异教徒,要么就是完全无知。 犹太人与此无关。 是拿撒勒人本身和他们的教会导致他们幻灭。 你所说的过犯,他们精神的削弱,都在他们自己的肩上,如果你更诚实,你可以呼吁他们,因为我认为你加入他们的教派是出于信念,即使你似乎不知道塔木德托拉。

    philishtim 是另一个问题。 我不会否认以色列背负着重大的血腥罪过 一定 那些自称是非利士人的成员,但他们也有 坝纳基 在他们手中,而以色列则少得多。 我还没有愚蠢到遵循犹太复国主义的教条线和坠子,但我对 philishtim 没有任何同情,在我看来,他们有义务为 Eretz Yisrael 的犹太人腾出空间,并停止他们的恐怖主义。 那些希望盲目地从事非人事业的人,对非人的行为没有任何限制,是彻头彻尾的白痴。 你们不仅是犹太人和人类的敌人,而且是和平本身。 人越有眼光的那一天,和平就会到来。 Philishtim 很久以前就可以拥有一个国家,但他们更喜欢 dam naki,他们更喜欢复仇,他们更喜欢谋杀无辜者。 他们不为自己的行为负责。 你会声称以色列向围栏射击“青少年”是犯罪行为。 我问你,你打算如何保卫边界。 如何!? 在我关于这个问题的无数帖子中,在两个推特账号被审查之前,以及另外四个通过推特优先政策死产之前,我发布了涉及边界的明确拍摄权的照片。 你建议如何处理边界越界,当它们是巨大的,当它们涉及数十万人时。

    没错,就像你的 pesel Trump 一样——做杰克狗屎。 杰克狗屎。

    asham 在他们身上,而不是在 yehudim 身上。 他们离开了羊群 父母的信仰,它 问题。 他们是第一个对他们祖先的信仰一无所知的人,第一个谴责它的人。 我们要为他们重建吗? 各国能做到吗 没什么 没有犹太人。 让我休息一下! 诚然,犹太人既不是黑人也不是白人,但民族呢? 它们是好还是坏? 在哪里 谎言 他们的责任?

  230. The terrible blaze in Paris should be an ominous warning for the French: Reconnect with your Church!

    That’s not how it works. If some billionaire offered to buy you anything you want for Christmas, if only you ‘reconnected’ with your belief in Santa, would you be able to make yourself believe?

    • 回复: @lavoisier
  231. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @AmRusDebate

    Good point about Rachel and Jacob…I remember this story well from my childhood Sabbath school days…I always remember thinking about that dirty trick of adding another seven years labor after Jacob completed the first seven…this raises serious credibility issues about Shamir and his claim to be a Christian…every Christian knows this story quite well…

    As for your statements defending the murder of Palestinian children by psychopathic Israeli snipers that take perverse delight in cowardice…I can only say that it is an eye opener to see such unapologetic ugliness and inhumanity staring at you from the printed page…I’m glad you have chosen to display your status as a subhuman publicly…I always say one of the great gifts of the internet is the ability to discover just how many profoundly worthless so called ‘human beings’ there are in this world…

    • 回复: @AmRusDebate
  232. @AmRusDebate

    Why is the Talmudic age of marriage complicated? Three years and one day, seems simple enuf. Or is it complicated like the mitzvah of burning down churches. And if Jewish money is going to rebuild Notre Dame it is going to be a holocaust museum. You make the whole thing sound like a psyop in Israel’s eternal war against the Philishtim and amalek.

    • 回复: @AmRusDebate
  233. “Well, in our contemporary understanding…”

    The jews you are talking about are European and they by and more than large white.

    That may be a tough truth to hear, but it is truth nonetheless. The constant attempt to distance jews from the dominant western population based on skin color is very strange.

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
    , @anon
  234. @Iris

    I think the answers [or causes] are a little more complex than mere ‘sugary drinks.’ Nature and evolution tend to follow logical progress and pathways, even if mankind doesn’t grasp its reasoning or principles. In that sense, we are a ‘result’ of what has come before us.

  235. Art 说:
    @anon

    So Hillary said “Easter worshipers,” but didn’t specifically say “Christian Easter worshipers” as you demand.

    The Muslim terrorists did not attack Easter — they attacked Christians.

    When Obama and Hillary and the other Dems all use “Easter” something political is happening – PERIOD.

    Using the word “Christian” would in that story mean “victim” and in liberal speak, Christians cannot be victims, they are the world’s victimizers.

    思考和平-艺术

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
    , @Anon
  236. A123 说:

    The real reason for the fire explained in one picture:

  237. Art 说:
    @AmRusDebate

    我不会否认以色列对某些自称是非利士人的人负有重大的血腥罪行

    Give us a break – the Jews have been victimizing the Palestinians every day for over 65 years.

    Your sobbing for the Jews is disgusting. The Jews do not want peace – Israel is getting darker darker by the day. They have evil intent – and you know it.

    思考和平-艺术

  238. ““What a metaphor is:” ad hoc excuse-making for embarrassing scriptural passages. If it is embarrassing, it’s a metaphor! “So hurt and angered.” The constant refrain of retards who believe in Jewish magic, and are totally butthurt that their intellectual betters do not believe in Jewish magic. “You are wholly unaware of the christian dynamic.” So much for being hurt and angered. Can you stick with just one story for more than three seconds, . . .?”

    While I am an advocate of free speech. And you entitled to comment as you will. In comments to me, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from the use of colorful language.

    As to your comment.

    If you have examples where my responses to you have changed. you are welcome to pint them out. As i have previously responded. Your comments regarding the nature of marriage in the examples you note are metaphors. I explained why. The explanation has not changed one iota from any of the previous discussions regarding content or context.

    And as stated previously, even if one wanted to read the scriptures as all phantom and fantasy, say as one might read “Alice and Wonderland”, the references you have chosen would still be metaphors for the form of the relationship, not one that is physically literal. Now it is quite convenient to bounce around scripture as you do. But at each every turn, upon a even a brief look scripture the texts you reference contradict your arguments. Now clearly those with beefs with christianity will jump on the wagons you attempt to mount. But as was the case previously, after they themselves do some work, they quickly abandon your arguments as wanton of substance and accuracy.

    The christian dynamic is very simple.

    a. Christ died for the sins of men. (not at an unusual dynamic, people sacrifice for the sake other people everyday: parents to children, husbands to wives and vice versa . . .etc. In the case of christ the stakes were higher – my view)

    b. that anyone regardless of background who follows christ, accepts that sacrifice is reunited spiritually with god.

    c. and will by live a life in so accordance.

    Being a jew or an Israeli has nothing to do with it. Whether Notre’ Damme is rebuilt or not is inconsequential to the matter. What matters in this dynamic is that life and one generally relies on the New Testament as guide and the OT as reference. But before anything else — that relationship is personal one on one with him. It matters not what failures others have, what mistakes, what stupidity . . . that is secondary to you own walk. Misconstrue, warp, bend, break, scripture as so will. Call names. Shout holler, bemoan. Damn . . . gnash. ultimately, it’s about your relationship with Christ, regardless of what “voodoo” magic you claim christianity is.
    ---------

    No. The references you note regarding scripture in this instance is a metaphor. And no christians are invited to enjoy all of the human pleasures that exist — but there is a context in which all said pleasure is appropriate within a particular frame. And you read enough scripture, including the OT and you find rather quickly — being a christian is no barrier to human expression and passion, just not everyone, any time and upon every whim — save in the context of marriage.
    ---------------

    笑。

    Given the nature of your contentions — repetition is probably not an argument you want lay on others.

    • 回复: @Polemos
    , @Anon
  239. Anon[154]• 免责声明 说:

    Notre dome was an inside insurance job.I have Valerian steel to prove it

  240. Art 说:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Early menstruation may well be initiated by chemicals mimicking hormones but that’s well out of my understanding so I’ll leave it to the expects to discuss.

    The first duty of a biological entity is to reproduce – it gives everything it has to that goal. Biologically, girls begin to reproduce at 13. When they begin at 9 – nature is saying to them “you are in danger of not reproducing – you must do it now.

  241. wayfarer 说:

    ”Chabad and Noahide Laws Exposed!”

  242. @Art

    It is only Jews who would “attack Easter or Christians as you put it.” Look! It is an airplane! An airplane hit the World Trade Center! An American Airlines airplanes with Muslim terrorist hijackers!

    • 回复: @Art
  243. @ploni almoni

    Excuse the previous mispost that 4 minute edit went by fast.

    “It is not a question of skin color.”

    笑。

  244. Seraphim 说:

    You can’t deny that the Muslims do the same. Sri Lanka, anyone?

  245. Polemos 说:
    @Giuseppe

    I’m not sure what you mean. Are you indicating that you are strictly talking about moral guilt?

  246. Polemos 说:
    @Dave Bowman

    Thank you. How does this apply, then, to one nation invading another? Or do nations only exist as legal asinine entities, too?

  247. @AmRusDebate

    Quote: “I am not dumb enough to follow the Zionist dogma hook line and sinker, but I suffer no sympathy for the philishtim, who in my mind are obligated to make room for Jews in Eretz Yisrael…”

    回复:作为一个聪明且受过良好教育的人,你不会不发现上述陈述中的明显和巨大的矛盾。

    • 同意: NoseytheDuke
    • 回复: @AmRusDebate
  248. roonaldo 说:

    Early Christianity devolved, by way of organized religion, into Inquisitions, witch trials, and mass slaughter. Inevitably, Judaism and Islam devolved, as attested by Zionazism and Wahhabism.
    Amidst the carnage, a portion of a religion’s adherents feed the poor and attend to the sick, as a part of Hitler or Dick Cheney loves his mother. A ludicrous doctrine of celibacy for priests, etc., only degrades things further.
    Think for yourself, seek to understand the spiritual underpinnings of a creed, and run, don’t walk, from a priest or imam or rabbi with his head up his own and possibly someone else’s ass.

  249. Polemos 说:
    @AmRusDebate

    现在谈谈你提出的几点。 瑞秋7岁就嫁给了雅各布? 哪里,你从哪里弄到这个的!? 这是一个公然的谎言以色列。 雅各寻求拉结的手,拉班强迫他做七年的契约奴役。 他得到了利亚作为他的新娘。 一个恶作剧。 拉班要求拉结再活 7 年。 雅各布答应了。 这使得结婚前7年。 算一算。

    Kilford at #212 points out, linking to Quora.com, that Talmudic commentary posits Rachel’s age at marriage was 20 or 21. So, if that’s the case, then 20 or 21 minus 14 is about 7, right? Given that Jacob kisses Rachel and the narrator describes her as “beautiful of form and face” (Gen 29), it may be Shamir had this in mind for the entire discussion of changing sexual mores.

    Even Augustine’s devout mother thought marrying him to a prepubescent girl under ten was better than him shacking up with a postpubescent girl in her late teens, and we historically credit her Christian influence for converting him. Or at least he does, and people are free to disapprove of Augustine’s influence on Christianity.

    • 回复: @AmRusDebate
  250. E_Perez 说:
    @Anon

    “When people look back on the fall of the modern world, they will wonder how and why it happened. And the reasons will be(not in any particular order):…”

    Yeah, they will wonder why it happened. And since they will have a little broader look on history, they will remember that we have been warned some 80 years ago.
    Warned that the tribe will destroy European culture and the whole white race and that the only way the “Jewish take-over” could be avoided is by separating them from the Aryans.

    So when “people look back” they will realize that the turning point was the Second World War. Without fighting Germany in WWII none of your points would have come to pass: No Feminism, no LGBT, no “diversity cult”, no mass immigration, no Jewish take-over, no negro jungle fever, no dominance of finance, no Globo-Homo degeneracy,…

    Without WWII Paris would still be French, in Rotherham no British teens would be violated, in Cologne no German women molested, etc

    WWII was end game for the white race.

    • 同意: anarchyst
    • 回复: @NoseytheDuke
  251. Polemos 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Do you think it is just for someone innocent to be killed in place of someone who not only has been found guilty but also admits their guilt?

    If that is just, why is it? If not, then why not?

  252. “Do you think it is just for someone innocent to be killed in place of someone who not only has been found guilty but also admits their guilt?

    If that is just, why is it? If not, then why not?”

    I need more of where these inquisitives come from. I just need a frame of reference as to relevance. In context of Pontius Pilate, he states te man was innocent and still decided to send him to his death. The attempt to cover the matter as a call by the public simply provides no avenue to wash his hands of his own decision.

    • 回复: @Polemos
  253. @E_Perez

    WWII was a continuation of WWI which was planned well before. Field Marshal Foch said as much after Versailles, “Nothing is settled, the war will break out again within 20 years”, he was out by just 3 months.

    • 同意: Iris
  254. Hibernian 说:
    @Miggle

    Cromwell was bad for both the British and the Irish. He was crazy. He was a Cathedral vandal in 英国。

    Punishment of the Irish, circa 1640-circa 1985:

    In the 17th Century, at least; not sure when this ended; Catholic priests had a price on their head.

    As late as the early 1800s Catholics could not inherit or purchase real estate. The British were smart enough to know that this was a better way to encourage conversion to Protestantism and impoverish those who insisted on remaining Catholic than expropriating all Catholic owned land immediately.

    The form of land tenure that existed in the early 1840s on the eve of the potato famine was that the Irish worked as laborers on the large estates and received leaseholds on very small plots of land as part of their very meager compensation package, and grew potatoes on these plots to survive because it was the only crop which could sustain them on these small plots. A variety of food products were raised on the remaining portion of the estates on which the Irish worked. This food was for the most part exported until export was banned belatedly by the British.

    The Queen to her credit was reasonably sympathetic to the Irish when she realized what was happening. Large portions of the British establishment were not. The British official, with a Welsh sounding name, who was in charge of Ireland in the early stages of the famine, was exceedingly indifferent and cruel.

    Ireland was to a large extent depopulated as a result. Many came to the United State such as one great-great grandparent, two great-grandparents, and one grandparent of mine. (Other forebears were Polish or French.) Great opportunity awaited in the future, but poverty was there lot upon arriving and for quite some time afterwards.

    On the eve of WW1, the British Army officer corps blatantly threatened mutiny if Ireland were granted Home Rule, let alone independence.

    As late as the 1970s at least, specific jobs in industry were Catholic or Protestant jobs, in Ulster. No prize for guessing who got the better jobs.

    As for the French Calvinist Protestants, when they started out their oppressed minority status didn’t prevent them from forcefully disrupting Mass. With the passage of time they became influential. Then a King decided “Paris is worth a Mass” and there was indeed cruel persecution of the Protestants. Many left and many converted to Catholicism. However, conversion was not solely due to pressure from the authorities. There was a degree of true reform (the “Counter-Reformation) in the Church, which was represented by a priest, St. Francis de Sales.

    The first of my French ancestors in North America came to Canada in the early 1600s after leaving a town that had been given to the Calvinists.

    As to your second to last paragraph above, three out of six are true and if you substitute hanging for beheading it’s four out of six.

    Concerning the point in the third of your confusing triad of posts, the US was a good place to migrate to because it was a predominantly Protestant, almost entirely English speaking nation which, in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries at least, not so much in recent years, had its head screwed on straight, in contrast to the UK. Canada despite British rule but because of being in North America with abundant resources was OK. Many Irish people were shipped to Australia as convicts. As for the UK including industrial Ulster, the best that can be said is that it was nearby.

  255. Polemos 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    My apologies for not providing a context! You wrote about a simple dynamic in your Christian viewpoint, and gave (as bullet point? as premise? as first condition?) us this:

    a. Christ died for the sins of men. (not at an unusual dynamic, people sacrifice for the sake other people everyday: parents to children, husbands to wives and vice versa . . .etc. In the case of christ the stakes were higher – my view)

    I note that the move from ‘died for’ to ‘sacrifice’ is unclear, but being somewhat familiar with Christian theologies, I take it this dying/sacrificing 提供 有人 其他的 sins only really works—and please get this is what we’re examining, since I’m not assuming it alongside you—if Christ is sinless or himself innocent. Do you also agree?

    You say people do this everyday, and perhaps that’s true: I see how innocent people are killed and murdered every day to keep criminals and immoral people from justice. I take it that’s why people strongly dislike Israel’s approach to manipulating the US, or specific US citizen-individuals, into supporting them, for example. Or when, say, the CIA kills or socially humiliates whistleblowers or truth-seekers. These things happen every day, and the cynics say it is everyday. But, you suggest a different kind of sacrifice of one for another, yet in all these cases the “dynamic” is still the same logically, isn’t it? That is,

    The innocent die so that the immoral live.

    Why support this? If I am guilty, shouldn’t I face my own punishment, and not someone innocent? Even killing a few doves or a baby sheep to cover what I’ve done seems like trying to beg off from what’s right, which is owning my own death, if we’re in a logic where death punishment abounds, which is the Logos the Christian tells us is precisely this world, that world where its Lord and Creator requires all sinners die for any violation of the Law.

    Even my baptism is still, as the man says, a baptism into death, my death. So it was no longer that man who lives, because he 死亡 to the Law. By why isn’t he physically dead? Because the now resurrected innocent whom he asks us to also embrace owns him and uses his corpse, making him walk in new flesh. This magic works because of a certain kind of self-deception, where Paul can say it is no longer I, himself, who lives but Christ who lives. Otherwise, how else would it work had Jesus been as miserable a wretch as Paul, you, me, or any of us sinners?

    Do you grasp the context? I apologize if I am unclear. It’s not always a clear thing to ask about, because I think the entire thing is a huge paralogism designed to obscure an inherent injustice as the greatest act of a just judge (the ol’ evangelical image of the judge who jumps the bar to pay the fine comes to mind), built upon a mythology itself obscuring a much older spiritual conflict that wraps itself around so many cultures on this planet that unraveling the knots takes much time, grace, and genuine love. All of which is hard to get across on one tiny keyboard on a tiny screen on a tiny phone using my tiny mind. 😉

  256. renfro 说:
    @Andre Citroen

    Pay no attention to the Pam Geller report. She’s an uber Jewish junk yard bitch….to say she hates Muslims and wants them all set on fire and burned alive is a huge understatement.
    She’s been the main leader, along with Richard Spencer and Frank Gaffney, of the Anti Islam movement. She and her cohorts travel all over the world ginning up Muslim hatred.
    She was a correspondent with the Dutch nut that killed 50 children to protest ‘immigration invaders’.

  257. Hibernian 说:
    @ploni almoni

    Mom taught me English. Dad taught me math. Dad did not teach me Latin and I did not ask him to. I picked up a few Latin words from the Mass, just as I have picked up some Spanish from the bilingual signs on subway cars. I suppose a language being universal in the sense that it is widely used, even though very few people understand it, makes sense to some people, but not to me. This doesn’t mean it’s “dead,” it’s very important that a small cadre of scholars study it in order to read the Classics in the original and enlighten the rest of us.

    • 回复: @Hercule Poirot
  258. Anon[214]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    • EliteCon: Being a jew or an Israeli has nothing to do with it.
    • John 4:22: Salvation is from the Jews.

    I know you’re horribly embarrassed that the Jew Testament says that, but it still says that, and all your desperate lies to try to make it go away haven’t made it go away. You’re barking at your own tail, Jew-worshiper.

  259. Anon[214]• 免责声明 说:
    @Art

    So Luxury Hotels are specifically Christian now too?

  260. anno nimus 说:

    not having the time, energy or wish to skim thru comments i luckily glanced a couple dealing with what has been on my mind… forgive if i repeat what might have already been said here.
    that Shamir has the chutzpah to mention the false prophet of arabia in the same sentence with our blessed patriarch Jacob, and the way he neglected to mention the 14 years of labor for the sake of Rachel, is all a case of intellectual dishonesty. he knows better, but he does not care about the facts if they get in the way of his version of truth. he is doing it on purpose. likewise when he writes about stalin or communism. … sigh.
    the French need to rethink about the enlightenment business if they are to reconnect with their church. you cannot serve two masters.
    the Jews, ever clever, it was to their advantage to help secularism efforts. therefore, the Christian is more to blame for abandoning the church and embracing the Jew. it is futile to blame him for being himself, anti-church. pardon for the generalization, just writing in the same vein as Shamir’s.

    • 回复: @anon
  261. Nonny 说:
    @j2

    Can you give the details of one (not too insignificant) incident of the attack on Christianity that’s been going on for 400 years? A recent episode please.

    And is it an attack on Christianity itself, or on a particular sect that calls itself the only Church, such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Rome-centered sect?

    • 回复: @j2
  262. @renfro

    You mean the Jew looking apparently non-Jew Robert Spencer and not Richard Spencer of the altright – different blokes.

    Which Dutch nut killed 5o kids? You don’t mean the Norwegian Breivik who killed 77?

    • 回复: @Andre Citroen
  263. “I know you’re horribly embarrassed that the Jew Testament says that, but it still says that, and all your desperate lies to try to make it go away haven’t made it go away. You’re barking at your own tail, Jew-worshiper.”

    Not in the least. Speaking of repetitious . . . we have dealt with this matter. If you can locate a single instance when either Jesus or scripture calls upon anyone to worship jesus before the crucufuction, you are welcome to note it.

    Sure, jesus was a jew. Sure jesus is the source of salvation (hence that salvation is from the jew reference) but no scripture calls upon anyone to worship jews and when one becomes a christian the notion is completely rejected by those former jews who spread the gospel. If my Mr Franks fixes someone’s broken leg. The person with the repaired leg might acknowledge, recognition of the Frank family.

    He or she might say, ” That Goodness for the Frank Family, they produced a doctor who fixed my leg.” Acknowledging that Jesus comes from that society is not the same as calling anyone to worship jews. Categorical distinction is important. The kind of hat trick you are on about might be called a fallacy of composition. The logical failure of ignoring key differences in variables at play and assuming their relations is all the same based on the same ignorance. It comes in many forms. It’s tactic you employ fairly frequently.

    Going so hasn’t improved you reading comprehension. Now I would have thought you might latch onto the argument between Peter and Paul on the jewish question. But in the end, it as all other scripture you reference eventually do when read — rejects your contention that Christians do anything about jews aside from aid to bring them the gospel. As even Peter acknowledges he was wrong by caving into jewish expectations.

    Nothing embarrassing about scripture. I am of course embarrassed for you.

  264. anon[310]• 免责声明 说:
    @anno nimus

    Our blessed patriarch Jacob? You’re a Jew? Or at least a pathetic Wannabee-Jew? You cannot serve two masters? So how do you serve France and Israel at the same time, which a Christian necessarily does, as his allegiance is to Jerusalem and he considers himself a Citizen thereof.

  265. “I note that the move from ‘died for’ to ‘sacrifice’ is unclear, but being somewhat familiar with Christian theologies, I take it this dying/sacrificing for someone else’s sins only really works—and please get this is what we’re examining, since I’m not assuming it alongside you—if Christ is sinless or himself innocent. Do you also agree?”

    If I understand you correctly, the question is about the unfairness of defending the guilty. People should be held accountable. The concept of self sacrifice is not unusual. And that makes way for anyone anyone to comprehend Christ. Note what Christ did was to save from spiritual death. And to do that fully, it is manifested in a complete submission to even the false accusations, trial and sentence of death by Pontius Pilate (even though Pilate thinks the man innocent). And the resurrection all physical indicators of Christ’s triumph over all death — and thereby triumph over sin. Now embracing that life does not mean christians are not accountable for their walk in this life. One still has to work to eat. And pay bills, obey the rules of living, apply the ten, the “golden” as it is often called, avoid relational immorality, etc. And when christians don’t, the same applies to others is applicable to them — but what is not held to their stead is the stain of spiritual death.

    Now that is my read of scripture – restoring one’s place with God. But unlike Christ, we fail and stumble often times as reminder to lean all the more on Christ. But I think how and this works is best left for one to search out by having these questions with God himself. Faith in christ, eyes on christ . . . because while christians are by and large fine examples, one might be distracted and dismayed when they stumble. There’s in a very heavy burden on anyone called to leadership.

    Anyway, I am not anyone’s source. But if one seeks answers — a conversation with god is not a bad way to go. And I have cannot explain why some people escape punishment for wrong. I whine about this myself. And I remain very bitter about some issue(s).

    Laughing. Even so I must acknowledge my own bitterness as error – a very grave error.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Polemos
  266. alan 说:

    Israel Shamir, you certainly struck a nerve with this article. Many parts one could comment on, but:

    “And so the Church is forced to cleanse Herself, and the Jews are left alone, free to continue their self-destructive denouement.”

    As a ‘spotless bride’, believers are in a continuous state of corrections, cleansings, resurrections and ascensions. It is our assignment to continue to “… press toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus”. [Philippians 3:14] To this, Yashua (Jesus, if you prefer) prophesied of Judaism: ” Let no fruit grow on you ever again.” Immediately the fig tree withered away. [Matt. 21:19] Judaism has proven the words of Yashua as truly prophetic, for it is a manifestation of “…the father of lies”. It is time to recognize Judaism, and all that call themselves ‘jew’ because of their ‘Judaism’, as the “…synagogue of satan” that scripture declares it to be. By the way, can anyone tell me the difference between ‘semitism’ and ‘Shemitism’. “You keep using that word ‘semitism’. I do not thin it mins what you thin it mins”. Shalom, Y’all. And a Joyous Resurrection to all who will accept it.

    • 回复: @anon
  267. Avalanche 说:
    @wayfarer

    对不起,这个女人是个傻瓜。 或者至少在陈述她的白痴之前不费心去学习任何关于火灾的事情是非常粗心的!

    第一:
    白烟意味着火灾中的氧气多于燃料。 它不是“缺氧”。

    黑烟意味着火有更多燃料并且氧气不足(即阴燃;如果您在发生阴燃火灾的房间/封闭空间中敲一个洞(即,火正在“呼吸氧气”,因为它已经燃烧了)燃烧了房间里的大部分东西)——火势急剧膨胀(因此,“闪络”:消防员在打开封闭空间时的术语:氧气的流入使火“爆炸”(不是字面意思)和“追逐传入 O2 的路径)。

    (黑烟也可能意味着火“吃”的燃料是石油基的:那是*化学黑* 烟雾。 我宁愿希望圣母院没有石油产品!)

    第二:
    那“奇怪的橙色光芒”是火焰! 她指着圣母院和 911 塔说:“奇怪的橙色光芒”——但这并不奇怪; 它实际上是火! 她从来没有在晚上围坐在篝火旁吗? 橘子!

    她会不会费心与……你知道……一个真正的消防员讨论她的任何疯狂的理论来学习她显然不知道的关于火灾和灭火的所有知识?!

  268. anon[402]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    The constant attempt to distance jews from the dominant western population based on skin color is very strange.

    lol, who is trying to do that?

    its that they have no loyalty to whatever country they inhabit, only to themselves

    with few exceptions they are not ever Americans or Swedes or Germans, they are always jews

    the problem is they often look similar enough to the host populations that the people are unaware they have a traitor in their midst – when Ilhan Omar says something hateful towards white people they just look and see she’s an african (mooslim) n*gger but when Ben Shapiro is down with the browning of the U.S. how many Americans realize he isn’t one of them?

  269. j2 说:
    @Nonny

    “Can you give the details of one (not too insignificant) incident of the attack on Christianity that’s been going on for 400 years?”

    In the beginning the attack on the Catholic Church focused mainly on Jesuits. The forgery Monita Secreta (1613) is just about 400 years old now. Later Jesuits were banned in very many countries. See e.g.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppression_of_the_Society_of_Jesus
    Originally the ban was because Jesuits tried to help enslaved American Indians in Portuguese colonies, so Portugal banned the order. Very soon after that Freemasons took the leading role in attacks against Jesuits, in the beginning it was Jansenites, a Protestant sect. Masons later modeled Bavarian Illuminati along the Jesuit order, which is the reason why Alexander Dumas in Joseph Balsamo (=Cagliostro) calls the conspiracy Jesuits. Naturally, the secret society of Joseph Balsamo was Egyptian Freemasonry, later known as Memphis and Mizraim Freemasonry, the one that almost made all Masonic revolutions. Freemasonry supporting the ideas of Enlightenment was for a long time a leading opponent of the Catholic Church. Later there were leftists, but notice that leftists evolved from revolutionary Freemasonry, like the Jacobins of the French Revolution.

    “A recent episode please.”

    The paedophile scandal.

    “And is it an attack on Christianity itself, or on a particular sect that calls itself the only Church, such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Rome-centered sect.”

    It has mainly focused on the Catholic Church, but also on Christian beliefs. These opponents of Christianity pretend to support science, thus they support darwinism and in many ways try to show Christianity incorrect. There are valid arguments against these old beliefs and there are real scientists, who do not believe such myths, but these opponents (Freemasons, Kabbalists and such)
    only pretend: they actually are not atheists and scientists, they have their own religion, which is a mixture of Kabbalistic and other crazy religious beliefs, and they have been realizing a plan based on Biblical prophesies, the creation of new Israel and a new world order.

    I notice some degree of skepticism in your wording of the question to me, but I am always happy to help. Hopefully this explanation answered your question to a sufficient degree, if not, I can only advise you to study this and related topics from European history.

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  270. @Daniel Rich

    哦嗬嗬。 你真聪明! 哇

    愚蠢的解释。

    Eretz 以色列是犹太人的土地。 Philistim 应该服从这一点。

    “犹太复国主义者”是以色列/侨民思想的潮流,它跟随利库德集团在以色列的所有事情上的领先地位。

    我不能否认律法。 我可以否认选择性解释。

    我怀疑你是否理解其中的区别。

    • 回复: @Daniel Rich
  271. @FB

    你把两件事混为一谈。 精神病态儿童谋杀不是我所捍卫的。 不要把话放在我嘴里。

    好战的青年在被反复警告后冲进边境,是游戏。 如果您想像任何其他合理的保卫边界的方法,那您就完全脱离了它。

    • 回复: @FB
  272. @ploni almoni

    为什么复杂? 相信我的话。 或者拿沙米尔斯。 你的选择。
    犹太人的钱并没有重建圣母院。 你们这些人怎么这么阴暗!? 犹太人的钱是 贡献 给它。 所以不要因为一个人说的话,而用一个疯狂的拉比来诽谤所有的犹太人,而其他人却在花钱买钱。

    你们是文盲。 您无法正确阅读段落。

  273. @Commentator Mike

    我在法语中找到了这个,它与盖勒文章中报道的内容几乎相同。 修复工作尚未开始。 脚手架仍在建造中。

    http://www.fdesouche.com/1192629-notre-dame-les-travaux-navaient-pas-encore-debute-seuls-les-echafaudages-etaient-en-cours-de-montage

  274. @Polemos

    他没有浪漫意义上的“亲吻”。 从这句话就可以看出来。 引用 Likutei Moharan 12:1:11 “当拉文听到他姐姐的儿子 Yaakov 的名字时,他跑去迎接他。 他拥抱并亲吻了他,然后把他带进了他的家。”

    http://www.jewishanswers.org/ask-the-rabbi-category/jewish-texts/?p=1892

    https://biblehub.com/commentaries/genesis/29-11.htm

    这样大家就可以放心了。

    雅各在二十多岁时嫁给了雷切尔。 他确实在十四年前见过她。

  275. 作为一项规则,在塔纳赫从字面上计算年龄时应该小心。
    https://www1.biu.ac.il/indexE.php?id=14487&pt=1&pid=14391&level=0&cPath=43,14206,14372,14391,14487

    解释不协调和矛盾的是拉比的工作,不是沙米尔,也不是任何不精通托拉研究的人。 你可以随心所欲地扭曲事物,但你的扭曲是无效的。

    我相信我提出的总体观点太简单了,有些人在这里无法理解。 即使您将自己视为犹太权力的反对者,支持 philishtimes 也绝不是合乎逻辑的下一步。 您可以批评以色列,而不会成为穆斯林的有用白痴。

  276. @Mulegino1

    Mulegino1, You are absolutely correct in refuting the propaganda statement you quoted.

    Ten years of keeping current with 圣战观察网 had me deceived by it’s ‘controlled opposition’ purpose of portraying Jews as victims of islam rather than exploiters of it as you correctly state.

    Robert Spencer is heroically courageous in addition to being a world-class intellect and he does a great service to mankind by publicizing the truth about the anti-Jesus pagan death cult that is islam.

    But the first clue causing suspicion of the deceptive nature of 圣战观察网 is the disgusting background of its sponsor David Horowitz, who as a young adult was the typical black-militant-violence abetting Jew and to this day is still a nauseating apologist for the murderous “Jewish Terror” that was the Bolshevik Jew revolution that created the Soviet Union.

    Kevin MacDonald’s brilliant insight here

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/06/06/guilt-tripping-the-europeans/

    While there certainly are Jews who strongly oppose the Muslim invasion of Europe (see, e.g., Phyllis Chesler’s comment on the statement), the strong support by the most important mainstream Jewish organizations for massive Muslim immigration even in the face of Muslim anti-Semitism indicates the extent to which they value the destruction of Europe and its culture. My view is that they the organized Jewish community, including the ADL, believes that Muslim anti-Jewish attitudes can ultimately be managed without causing a disaster for the Jewish community.

    is the first I saw of the conclusion you properly draw.

    Sadly, citing this truth to Mr. Spencer precipitates from him the name-calling “anti-Semite” which not only reveals his bias in his service to the Jews but also mischaracterizes me because, like Farrakhan said, “I’m anti-Termite.”

    • 同意: Mulegino1
  277. ” . . . its that they have no loyalty to whatever country they inhabit, only to themselves . . .”

    The constant refrain about who constitutes the bulk of european jewery is “they are not white.”

    That is nothing but an attempt to distance them from the bulk of europeans who are in fact,

    白色

    just as most european jews are white.

    So to further distort the obvious, nonjewish whites who have issues with jews, spin on genetic rhetorical frames or some other construct so as to avoid the obvious.

  278. anon[104]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    And the resurrection all physical indicators of—a metaphor. Don’t take it literal. It’s just a metaphor, and I learned it from you. A sampling:

    • EliteComm, April 10, 2019: “The us [sic] of metaphor to acknowledge that by coming to Christ…”

    • EliteComm, April 10, 2019: “Here’s a secret . . . it’s metaphor.”

    • EliteComm, April 13, 2019: “…to provide evidence of who is and metaphor for…”

    • EliteComm, April 14, 2019: “The above is a metaphor.”

    Let me guess; you’re going to to start talking out the other side of your mouth now.

  279. anon[104]• 免责声明 说:
    @alan

    What man in his right mind wants to be the “bride” of a Jewish Rabbi, anyway? You need thrown in the bog.

  280. @renfro

    There’s also a (largely Jewish) 501c-3 out of Boca Raton, FL whose agenda is opposition to Islam.

    国家安全公民 https://cfns.us/files/Textbooks-Report-Summary.pdf mobilized an army of volunteers to comb textbooks used by Florida public school children to ascertain whether Islam was “properly” represented, i.e. sufficiently negatively.

    Those who are interested can browse the CFNS for themselves.

    Some interesting peculiarities and intersectionalities:

    CFNS’s (crazed-appearing) front-man is apparently a Christian, but most of the operatives are not.
    这可能不是 exclusively peculiar to Jews, but it certainly is SOP for many Jewish groups.

    CFNS operations are headquartered just a few miles from Parkland HS.

    Last week or so, Unz featured several articles about the appearance before Jerry Nadler’s congressional committee of Candace Owens, of TurningPoint USA. Owens is Black, articulate, and outspoken. She’s engaged to a white man, the head of Turning Point UK and heir to one of its major funder.

    Turning Point’s schtick is that it is Conservative; pro-Trump; supportive of Blacks and gays; anti-anti-gun.
    And also pro-Israel / pro-zionist / anti-Islam.
    While the various Unz articles that featured Candace’s sassy-talk, C Span focused on Owens’s exchange with Ted Lieu with special attention to her declaration that “Hitler was a homocidal maniac who killed 6 million Jews,” whereupon Owens’ wedding was pd in full. cha-ching.

    Major funders of TurningPoint USA include an investments-billionaire who had a come-to-Jesus moment in his mid-thirties; he’s now committed to evangelical causes and also is Islamophobic.

    Members of Turning Point’s Board of Directors and / or its advisors include Mike Leven, former head of Sheldon Adelson’s Sands corporation and also former head of Home Depot philanthropies (Unz readers may be aware that Home Depot co-founder Bernard Marcus is intensely committed to Israel and Israeli settlements.

    In Dec. 2018 TurningPoint US held a conference in Florida. Among the speakers was Kyle Kashuv, who was a student at Parkland at time of shootings but is opposed to gun legislation.
    The next-but-one segment after Kashuv fwas titled, F U-nity: Addressing Terrorism on Campuses with Sophia Witt, Director of Israel Outreach
    https://www.tpusa.com/sasagenda/

    Sooo — signals from my tinfoil hat suggest to me that TPUSA is a Jewish-financed group whose goal is to corner the youth vote for Republicans who will support the zionist project. Candace Owens is a a real find: a charming black face to put on the zionist project.

    (nb. C Span doubled-down on hyping Turning Point: On Apr 17 Washington Journal hosted TPUSA’s Rob Smith, a Black and Gay advocate for “Conservative,” pro-Trump principles.

    • 回复: @anon
  281. @Alden

    If you proclaim that “ there is but one God and that is the God of Israel” you are not a Christian because you deny that Jesus is God.

    What a weird response.

    Why would any thinking person assume that the “one God” is the “god of Israel” ?

    USA Declaration of Independence speaks of rights in which all are “endowed by their Creator,” not by the “God of Israel.”

    To the extent that Jews claim that their “God of Israel” ordained them as “the chosen people,” the “God of Israel” cannot logically be the same as “the Creator,” since the Creator is, obviously, the creator of 所有, while the God of Israel is extremely circumscribed.

    • 同意: NoseytheDuke
  282. @Rational

    The Talmud is NOT “… simply commentary on the Torah.”! It is a repudiation of God and God’s law.
    The Talmud is a radical departure from everything God said. When Jesus said “… you have heard …” that was the Talmud. In the second part of these statements, when Jesus – God incarnate – said “… but I say unto you ….” that was the Torah, God’s law.
    The Judeo-Christian Tradition – A Guide for the Perplexed by Dr. Gary North explains in more detail.
    发现犹太教 by Michael Hoffman, Jr. is to the Zionists what David Griffin is to the NIST 9/11 liars, what Diana Johnstone is to the fans of Croatia and what Jack Cashill is to the TWA 800 FBI/CIA liars.

  283. @Hibernian

    Calvinists – Christians – did not start any wars and Christianity never “… led to almost 350 years of oppression in the land of 5/8 of my forbears (sic).” Do no confuse Roman Catholicism with Christianity: It is not. The papists deny the essential of Christianity: Salvation by the grace of God alone through faith alone and that not of works.
    In my experience, about 98% of the people who call themselves “Christian” can barely spell that word, never even hold a Bible except possibly once a week in “church”, do not see the Bible as the sufficient guide to life, will never read the Bible cover to cover, are totally ignorant of Christian doctrine, denominational distinctions, etc. My point is that the US military is NOT Christian (that also from my time on active duty), invading foreign people, even Muslims, is not a Christian act, the entire government of the US is anti-Christian, pushing the religion of evolution in service to secular humanists. You might argue that US law still has fundamental Christian elements such as “Thou shalt not murder”, but it is very plain that “abortion” – torturing babies to death – and “euthanasia” – killing the old or mentally retarded – are attacks on this remnant of civilization. I also argue that civilization is applied Christianity. In the end, the Kingdom of God will be all the government there is: men directly subject to God – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit – and not any collective of people who call themselves “government”.

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    , @Hibernian
  284. Anonymous[310]• 免责声明 说:
    @David Parker

    The US military is NOT Christian?

    A military Web site has removed a photo originally cleared by government censors of a tank in Iraq carrying the name “New Testament” on the barrel of its main gun….
    https://ethicsdaily.com/new-testament-tank-name-criticized-cms-5831/

  285. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @AmRusDebate

    I may have to take a shower after engaging with a subhuman…but controlling crowds of unarmed people without the use of deadly force is not exactly rocket science…so you can shove your bullshit about gunning down unarmed people being the only viable option…

    Israel has a right to exist in its internationally recognized pre 1967 borders and not one inch more…this is explicit in numerous security council resolutions which even the US could not bring itself to veto, since the entire postwar order is based on the lynchpin of the inadmissibility of territorial gain by means of war…

    Israel is also responsible for the humane treatment of people in its occupied territories…every principled person on earth, including most Jews I know recognizes these legal and moral realities…the Palestinians which you obviously hold in the kind of hateful contempt that only a psychopath expresses towards his victims made the mistake of trying to ‘negotiate’ with their occupier…

    There is nothing to negotiate…Israel must leave every inch of occupied territory and will do so sooner or later…its protector is clearly headed for the dustbin of history and from what I can tell, the future contains a lot of time…

    • 回复: @lavoisier
    , @AmRusDebate
  286. Blargest 说:
    @Rational

    Good gravy, you are profoundly retarded. You shouldn’t use “Rational” as your name since you are anything but rational.

  287. @wayfarer

    Sometimes it’s hard to imagine, the courage and faith it takes, to “turn the other cheek.”

    But unless we learn to “forgive,” we’re never going to advance, spiritually.

    Those who are perpetrating the worst evil in our world are counting on this forgiveness to get away with murder.

    I want the murderers to face justice in this life. .

  288. @FB

    Israel has a right to exist in its internationally recognized pre 1967 borders and not one inch more…this is explicit in numerous security council resolutions which even the US could not bring itself to veto,

    Give Trump some time and he will find a way around these resolutions.

  289. @Felix Krull

    That’s not how it works. If some billionaire offered to buy you anything you want for Christmas, if only you ‘reconnected’ with your belief in Santa, would you be able to make yourself believe?

    That is the salient point, is it not?

    The church is dying because of science.

    • 回复: @anon
  290. @AmRusDebate

    You’re right. It all went right over my head. Who wrote the torah? Your mom?

    You’re superior complex is shining bright as ever. Good for you.

    You’ll doubt the veracity of my words anyway, don’t you?

    Target practice time. Damn! Where’s that Palestinian baby?!

  291. @FB

    冷静一点。 你和芬太尼一样歇斯底里。 我有没有提到 1967 年的边界? 关于任何土地掠夺?

    占领领土? 你生活在哪个世纪!?

    除非您以某种古怪古怪的方式指代 PA 的 Abu Mazzen 总裁。

    我将不加评论地留下其余部分。 你显然不知道你在说什么。

    • 回复: @FB
  292. 对于那些希望在磨坊上放一些谷物的人。

    https://www.lejdd.fr/Societe/audrey-azoulay-patronne-de-lunesco-sur-notre-dame-macron-a-raison-de-placer-la-barre-assez-haut-3894105

    被任命为联合国教科文组织管理人员的法国阿祖莱夫人对她的组织在保护古迹方面的作用一无所知。 A-OK 改变巴黎圣母院的架构。

    一个头脑简单的机会主义职业黑客。

    犹太人引导。 摩洛哥血统。

    哦,又是那些sepharabs。 我向读者保证,与德系无关

  293. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @AmRusDebate

    I see your comeback in the face of stark legal and geopolitical realities is trying to pretend facts don’t exist…what century am I living in…?…the century in which Israel is evicted from illegally squatting on occupied land…enjoy it while you can…

    • 回复: @AmRusDebate
  294. “And the resurrection all physical indicators of—a metaphor. Don’t take it literal. It’s just a metaphor . . .”

    That’s interesting, It’s clear I know what a metaphor is in scripture. I think I will have to wait and see of you know a metaphor is and what in means as to scriptural understanding. Scripture is “chocker block” full of metaphors. Those, if accurately represented, don’t even scratch the surface of the surface.

    • 回复: @anon
  295. Art 说:
    @ploni almoni

    An airplane hit the World Trade Center! An American Airlines airplanes with Muslim terrorist hijackers!

    Hmm —- most of the American people would like to hear the rest of the story – the whole story about 9/11.

    Part of that story must be WHY we where attack in the first place. That part screams – JEWS!

    Also the part of who did the 9/11 investigation screams – JEWS!

    不要伤害—艺术

  296. anon[174]• 免责声明 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    It’s clear I know what a metaphor is in scripture, indeed. You call anything embarrassing a “metaphor.” That’s your only standard for identifying a metaphor. If you’re not embarrassed by it, then it’s not metaphor. Interesting to observe, true.

  297. @Alden

    Election is the one and only qualification for being Christianity. All else is profession to which the elect will be drawn. If you aren’t, you aren’t.
    John Calvin was most definitely Christian. I have no idea where you get your information, but for me, the Holy Bible – any literal translation (1611 KJV, NASB, 1599 Geneva, ESV, etc.), and Calvin’s 基督教宗教研究所 will dispel any possibility of any other conclusion. If you are assuming that the Roman Catholic organization defines Christianity, you thereby deny two essentials of Christianity – salvation by the grace of God alone through faith alone and not of works and the singular authority of the Holy Bible as God’s revelation of himself to mankind. Calvin’s argument with the papacy was their bloody response to the Reformation. When the Popes had military power, they did not hesitate to use it, they were quick to war and torture, much like the Jews – through manipulation of others – and the Muslims – often manipulated by the Jews in my humble opinion.

  298. Where do you get the notion that “… Jacob, the Biblical patriarch, surpassed him (Mohammed) and married Rachel who was only 7.”? Child brides are not biblical. Betrothals are one thing, consummated marriage is quite another thing – not at all biblical!
    Rachel, all by herself, was shepherding at least one flock of Laban’s sheep when she first met Jacob. There is no mention whatever of her age when she was finally given to Jacob but, if the Bible says anything about the age of Rachel, it is that Jacob worked seven years for her BEFORE he was deceived by Laban by being given Leah in marriage first and having to work another seven years to get Rachel:
    “Genesis 29:20 And Jacob served seven years for Rachel, and they seemed unto him but a 1 few days, because he loved her. 21 ¶ Then Jacob said to Laban, Give me my wife, that I may go in to her: for my term is ended. 25 But when the morning was come, behold, it was Leah. Then said he to Laban, Wherefore hast thou done thus to me? did not I serve thee for Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me? 26 And Laban answered, It is not the 1 manner of this place, to give the younger before the elder. 27 Fulfill seven years for her, and we will also give thee this for the service, which thou shalt serve me yet seven years more. 28 Then Jacob did so, and fulfilled her seven years, so he gave him Rachel his daughter to be his wife. 29 Laban also gave to Rachel his daughter, Bilhah his maid to be her servant. 30 So entered he in to Rachel also, and loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served him yet seven years more.” 1599 Geneva Bible

    • 回复: @Hercule Poirot
  299. The prophet Muhammad married nine-year-old Aisha, but Jacob, the Biblical patriarch, surpassed him and married Rachel who was only 7. In our modern world Jacob and Muhammad would be hunted down, extradited and jailed. It is possible that even better-placed Persons would not fare well when faced with today’s enlightened justice: the Mother of our Saviour was just 14 at Annunciation.

    I have always maintained that you Mr. Israel Shamir are a real Jew in sheep clothing. Basically, with the above statement of the Prophet of Islam you are doing two Satanic thingy.

    1. You are poisoning the people mind that Islam is bads as the Satanic Talmudist.
    2. You are implying that the Prophet is pedophile.

    There is no evidence in Islam that Mohammad married Aisha at age six and consummated his marriage to her at age nine. It is further claimed that Mohammad didn’t obtain Aisha approval for this marriage as her silence was considered as approval.

    Where is the proof for all this. At the onset of Mohammad’s death, while his body was still warm and not buried, Islam was hijacked by the Jews. The Qurans were burned, and especially the Traditions were all completely burned as it was claimed that we have the Book of Allah (Quran) and there is no need for Traditions (Hadiths). The Quran was tampered with and the Arabic Quran we have in our homes today is not in order of revelation. Neither the Suras (Chapters) in the Quran are in chronological order nor the Ayas (verses) in the Quran are in chronological order of revelation thus changing the meaning of Quran. Further, the Quran was descended in Quranic Arabic, a miracle but it was changed to market Arabic and all other copies burned. Eighty years later it was put back in to Quranic Arabic.

    The Traditions (Hadiths) were burned at the onset. They were cooked, recooked and cooked again to please the Caliphs and destroy Islam. About 250 years later these Hadiths were compiled by Bukhari from Bukhara. A blind and non Arab, who has never heard about Chinese Whispers. In these Traditions Aisha is singing her own songs. Where as, in the Quran it is mentioned that she is a liar and destined for hell… In Quran she is compared to the nasty wives of Noah and Lot, who are both destined for hell too.

    Stop spreading Islamic Phobia…

    • 回复: @Hercule Poirot
  300. @AmRusDebate

    伊斯兰教——智商最低的五分之一的宗教——夸大了对艾莎的购买。 别忘了,莫的第一任妻子是一只美洲狮,哈蒂亚,一个老妇人,她的嫁妆和地位造就了大疯子的事业、飞毯等等。 根据维基百科,他有 13 位妻子,其中 12 位在 Khadija 之后,据说他一直保持一夫一妻制(psst,不要提及“官方”妃子)。

    停止对伊斯兰教撒谎。 这是你的谎言:
    1. Mohammad 在六岁时与 Aisha 结婚,并在九岁时完成了与她的婚姻,而没有她的口头或书面同意。 据她说,先知以她的沉默为满足。 她基本上是在唱自己的歌。 你应该阅读古兰经对她的叙述。

    2. 不,Khadijah 不老,绝对不富有。 穆罕默德与她结婚 27 年,直到 52 岁,10 年后他去世,享年 62-63 岁。 Khadijah 被监禁了 3 年,她在狱中被饿死。

    Now coming to Judaism, it is full of cheating, lying, back stabbing and so forth. Here are few examples from TaNaKh (Old Testament) and not Talmud. BTW, I can quote the full TaNaKh if you don’t quit spreading lies about Islam.

    1. 雅各布和他的母亲欺骗了他的父亲,她也欺骗了她的丈夫。 是的,我知道 Yetzer hara Yetzer hatov。 雅各布是犹太人的榜样。

    2. Here is a more juicy one. David covets the neighbor’s wife, commits adultery with her, connive to kill her husband and then steals the neighbor’s wife. Breaking four major Commandments, and what does God do. He gets angry, kill 70,000 innocent Jews, kills the innocent bastard baby of David. Then God regrets what He has done in anger, so he blesses David with Solomon and Riches. David had 1,000 wives and concubines.

    3. And now, Jews worshiping the Star of David, who were basically “Cow Worshipers”. Don’t know which is better!

    说够了!

  301. @David Parker

    Rachel, all by herself, was shepherding at least one flock of Laban’s sheep when she first met Jacob. There is no mention whatever of her age when she was finally given to Jacob but, if the Bible says anything about the age of Rachel, it is that Jacob worked seven years for her BEFORE he was deceived by Laban by being given Leah in marriage first and having to work another seven years to get Rachel:

    Another example of cheating and back stabbing. Maybe, Laban was practicing Kol Nidre at each Yom Kippur for 7 years:

    “Kol Nidrei night”. It is written in Aramaic, not Hebrew. Its name is taken from the opening words, meaning all vows. The formula proactively annuls any personal or religious oaths or prohibitions made upon oneself to God for the next year, so as to preemptively avoid the sin of breaking vows made to God which cannot be or are not upheld.

  302. @Hibernian

    Mom taught me English. Dad taught me math. Dad did not teach me Latin and I did not ask him to. I picked up a few Latin words from the Mass, just as I have picked up some Spanish from the bilingual signs on subway cars. I suppose a language being universal in the sense that it is widely used, even though very few people understand it, makes sense to some people, but not to me. This doesn’t mean it’s “dead,” it’s very important that a small cadre of scholars study it in order to read the Classics in the original and enlighten the rest of us.

    Yes, you are right that Jesus was blond and blue eyes, who spoke Greek and Latin. During the times of Jesus, Hebrew was a dead language (dormant) and Jesus spoke and his disciples spoke Aramaic to each other. Have you ever wondered why the New Testament is neither in Hebrew or Aramaic?

    Because at the time of Jesus, all Semitic languages, such as Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic were not evolved enough for writing. Even at the time of Mohammad these languages were not evolved enough for writing. These languages were and still are bazaar Arabic, and each bazaar is different from another bazaar. How many versions of English languages we have today!

    Quran is a living miracle, with it came the Quranic Classical Arabic language with full strong grammar. The Quranic Arabic is still taught in the Universities for Linguistic students of Arabic, no matter what their religions are. This Quranic Classical Arabic had no change to it till today. Still up to high schools the bazaar Arabic is taught and also in Universities to the students of non-linguistic students. The TaNaKh (Old Testament) in Hebrew was put pen to paper from Quranic Classical Arabic during 12th to 15th centuries.

    Do you ever wonder why Jesus was always accusing the Scribes and Pharisees?

    And, the dormant Hebrew was revived in late 18th century, again from Quranic Classical Arabic.

    • 回复: @Anon
  303. anon[188]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    Right now they are fighting for them in Iran and Syria

    Not long ago the Jews fought for them in Iraq .

    not sure what you’re getting at as fighting for the U.S. isn’t fighting for Christianity and besides that the jews are incredibly underrepresented in the military, serving at only about 25% the rate their population would indicate iirc – hardly patriotic

  304. anon[188]• 免责声明 说:
    @lavoisier

    That is the salient point, is it not?

    The church is dying because of science.

    and judaism and islam?

  305. @Hercule Poirot

    The prophet Muhammad married nine-year-old Aisha, but Jacob, the Biblical patriarch, surpassed him and married Rachel who was only 7. In our modern world Jacob and Muhammad would be hunted down, extradited and jailed. It is possible that even better-placed Persons would not fare well when faced with today’s enlightened justice: the Mother of our Saviour was just 14 at Annunciation.

    Mr Israel Shamir, you are well known as a Tulmudi Wolf in the Christian Sheep clothing. You are a gatekeeper and not fooling anyone. I am pretty sure that you remember The Spanish Inquisitions. Look at the way how you have constructed the above narration. You very well knew that Rachael must be at-least 20 years old, when Israel (Jacob) married her. He had to wait for 14 years, and I am sure that Jacob didn’t fell in love with her while she was still in her cradle. You knew that you would be corrected, and only one holding the bag as Pedophile is the Prophet of Islam.

    It is not the first time that you have shown your true colors and clothing. And, it won’t be the last either….

    • 回复: @anon
  306. anon[188]• 免责声明 说:
    @Hercule Poirot

    Mr Israel Shamir, you are well known as a Tulmudi Wolf in the Christian Sheep clothing. You are a gatekeeper and not fooling anyone.

    lucky for us Hercule Poirot was on the case and sniffed it out

    Poirot was too clever to be fooled by Shamir

  307. ” You call anything embarrassing a “metaphor.” That’s your only standard for identifying a metaphor. If you’re not embarrassed by it, then it’s not metaphor. Interesting to observe, true.”

    This comment makes no sense. I am not embarrassed about scripture at all. Metaphor, implicit, explicit or whatever rhetorical device is play. The standard meaning for metaphor is as follows and I thought I had addressed this previously. I previously posted the entire page. I guess the articles author was disturbed by the length. I don’t agree with the entire compedium of examples, but there are plenty.

    Metaphor Defined (with examples),

    http://www.literarydevices.com/metaphor/

    Now if you are talking about the metaphors previously referenced. I stand by them as metaphors.

    Note: You seem to be suggesting that I think all of NT is a metaphor. That would be false. There is plenty of direct literal meaning on display. And I am no more embarrassed by them as I am any other aspect of scripture.

  308. “” You call anything embarrassing a “metaphor.” That’s your only standard for identifying a metaphor. If you’re not embarrassed by it, then it’s not metaphor. Interesting to observe, true.”

    Not embarassed that I understand that when Jesus says,

    “I am the good shepherd and the sheep follow me, for flock know the sound of my voice.”

    He does not mean people are literally sheep.

    Metaphors can be tricky.

  309. Anon[192]• 免责声明 说:
    @Hercule Poirot

    Because at the time of Jesus, all Semitic languages, such as Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic were not evolved enough for writing. Even at the time of Mohammad these languages were not evolved enough for writing

    咦?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshitta

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

  310. Polemos 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I feel that I am asking questions about one thing and you are responding about something else. This happens, when we’re differently engaged in the path.

    As it goes, I think you are a good source for what 美味 think, and that’s why I asked you, so there’s no need for humility in suggesting I go to God about biblical claims and not you, who suffers his humanity with a pleasant disposition.

    Maybe one day the questions I asked will come back around, but in the meantime, keep seeking justice over pride.

    • 回复: @EliteCommInc.
  311. aandrews 说:

    Another French Church Burns on Easter Sunday, Also Named “Notre Dame,” Police Say Arson

    安德鲁昂格林
    每日斯托默
    April 24, 2019

    Another French church named Notre Dame has caught on fire.

    Although unlike Notre Dame de Paris, the authorities are openly admitting that Notre Dame de Grace was a target of arson on Easter Sunday.

  312. Hibernian 说:
    @j2

    “… Jansenites, a Protestant sect.”

    Jansenism was a quasi-Protestant movement within Catholicism.

    • 回复: @j2
  313. Hibernian 说:
    @David Parker

    I’m not going to argue with an arch fundamentalist.

  314. @Polemos

    嗯。 。 。

    ok. You have disarmed me.

    I will do my utmost to tackle the matter head on.

  315. Anonymous[375]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alden

    It’s pretty well established that Calvin was an orthodox Trinitarian. He famously had the Spanish polymath Michael Servetus burned at the stake for heresy in Geneva because of Servetus’s unitarian beliefs.

  316. “Maybe one day the questions I asked will come back around, but in the meantime, keep seeking justice over pride.”

    These “pride” “justice” are not competing attributes. I have reread my comments and as far as I can tell. I have addressed them head on.

    There’s not much pleasantness about my disposition. I only that what bitterness I have must be acted on or I will be lost for sure. We make a bid deal about hate these days in this country. i don’t care that much about hate. People are entitled to how they feel. But I do know that any acts of hate that in any manner damage or hinders another person’s rights as a citizen is a violation of the law.

    Scripture has a much higher standard.

  317. j2 说:
    @Hibernian

    “Jansenism was a quasi-Protestant movement within Catholicism.”

    Thanks for the correction. Would you not say that Martin Luther was quasi-Protestant within Catholicism in the beginning? I mean, all protestant movements originated in Catholicism as opposition, protesting.

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  318. @FB

    你完全误解了我的意思。 我不是为虐待巴勒斯坦人辩护。 我正在拿起武器反对毯子伊斯兰菲利亚, 阿拉波菲利亚, 巴勒斯坦-拉特尔y.

    My own history shows an acerbic critical take on Netanyahu, Likud and on Diaspora politics. Just look at my suspensions archive on 禁止来自medium.wordpress.com. You can even apologize, if you are man enough.

    我的政治路线是直截了当的。 不要从一个极端走向另一个极端。 仅仅因为以色列在国内主宰你,并不意味着阿拉伯人是你的朋友。 我的意思是长大。 这是真实的世界。 你不会有你的蛋糕然后吃掉它。 这是一个权衡的问题。 你想让沙特人和法国人在你的喉咙里吗?

    无论如何,穆斯林都不是你的盟友。 不要浪费时间为他们辩护。 这是一个战略错误,会把你逼入绝境。 要足够聪明,可以区分批评以色列糟糕的政策,而不是走到另一边。 我不能指望你理解以色列的困境,更不能指望你去探索以色列的观点。 我希望 Unz 有一个这样做的作家。 我只能给你一个兄弟般的警告,你不聪明。

    在世界各地,非宗教时期的穆斯林都是恐怖分子。 暴徒。 阿拉伯“青年”。 基督教巴勒斯坦人在亲以色列和反以色列之间平分秋色,但他们往往有细微差别。 他们明白我很抱歉说你的无知不明白。 他们知道自己处于困境和困境之间,平均而言,他们更喜欢以色列的岩石,而不是巴勒斯坦权力机构、哈马斯、法塔赫、伊斯兰圣战组织的困境。

    巴勒斯坦人、阿拉伯人、穆斯林,不要对你、你的文明、你的艰辛不屑一顾。 如果你现在还没有注意到,他们是所有政治的极左翼,极左翼和反种族主义者。 他们利用你,把你当作你选择让自己做的有用的白痴一样折腾。

    从数值上看,它们是来自南方的棕色洪水的一部分。 你要多么盲目才能看不到这一点? 这里所有的评论员是多么愚蠢,他们认为通过对以色列的尖酸刻薄,你已经解决了我们这一代最大的问题,南方洪水。

    让我休息一下! 我什至不会再对此发表评论,如果我得到的只是来自精神错乱的 SJW 的白痴亲阿拉伯的咩咩声。

    说到 manlet,SJW 反应过来。 我们评论的是 UNZ,而不是 CNN 或 nytwit 时代,请帮我一个忙并坚持 Unz 标准。 你有你的演讲,我有我的演讲。 不要来找我并诋毁我的透明和诚实。 不要给我你的下意识的 MSM 接种歇斯底里关于我是多么邪恶和可怕。

    控制自己一点。 做一个男人。 接受我有我的看法。 不要过度驱动诋毁它。 我实际上同意沙米尔的大部分观点。 我不是来弯腰的,阿门他说的一切,我的尊重是通过对话来表达的. 否则,去主流博客上评论,因为顺从的歇斯底里是常态。

    也就是说,特朗普本人正在授权在边境使用武力。 这是唯一合理的方法。 伤员则在冲锋围栏的一侧,而不是射手。 如果你不同意,那对你很好。 在这种情况下,爬回属于你的驴子的屁股,与你醒来的追星族一起,如果 DNC 的生命依赖于它,他们就无法更换灯泡。

    • 回复: @NoseytheDuke
    , @FB
  319. 哦,以免我得到“但 Jeeeeeeeeeeeews 是最亲左派的人。 Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeews 是破坏我们文明的人”

    是的,我可以看到他们在数字上是如何入侵你的。 他们如何用恐怖行为把你撕成碎片。 他们如何烧毁你的大教堂。 是的,我可以看到你的要求的严重性。

    对于有组织的犹太社区的所有批评,我自己也与我的同胞就这个问题进行了激烈的辩论,但各国也欠我们一大笔债。 说这话并不傲慢。 没有我们,美国就不会是美国。 我们让你成为今天的你。 你的圣诞歌曲,你所有 30 年代及以上的经典电视节目。 您在屏幕上的所有特许经营权。 你的一切。 更别提音乐了。 因此,在你开始对犹太人的仇恨之前,首先要承认这个等式也有信用的一面。 在你去找那个会鸡奸你的阿拉伯人之前,三思而后行,三思而后行。

    你欠了这么一笔债。 你自己莫名其妙的懒惰、迟钝,应该归咎于你无法​​以一种可以与犹太人谈判的方式组织自己,这是一个尊重的民族主义协议。

    你只能怪你自己。 你下意识的歇斯底里。 你下意识的绝对极端主义。 你对几乎所有问题的无知。 您讨厌 Jeeeeeeeeeeews,但您希望 Jeeeeeeeeeeeew 为您组织它。 不是吗? 你需要 Steve Miller、Shamir、Atzmons、AmRusdebates。 靠你自己,你什么都做不了。 即使是 Andrew Anglin,也不能没有 Weev。 你无法在种族问题上制定一个明智的立场,你需要 Eric Kaufmann 来做。

    为什么? 如果在您的razibkhan 世界观中,您的智商都那么高,为什么? 这么聪明? 这样的文化创造者? 为什么你吸得这么烂,你必须去吸阿拉伯人!?

    废话,吹牛,小丑! 去与你的解放者兄弟,你的 WASPish 行善者精英接触,看看为什么他们而不是犹太人,在背后捅了你一刀。 可能是因为你不是任何交易的合理一方吗? 会不会是无知让你变成了戏仿? 谁从一开始就对你的国家嗤之以鼻? 是 19 世纪同化的犹太人帮助你建立了第一个也是唯一一个真正的三K党吗? 是犹太人大声要求废除吗? 是犹太人为平等而尖叫吗? 是犹太人带来了最初的斯拉夫人、意大利人和东欧人吗? 或者是你做的好盎格鲁新教拯救世界普利茅斯架牙牙学语的白痴类型? 你的安德鲁·卡内基和洛克菲勒,谁需要无限的劳动?

    你的小贵格会、一神论者、卫理公会、圣公会等等?

    你看,你讲了一个关于犹太人的高大上的故事,但犹太人是西部边境最爱国、最原教旨主义的元素,直到他们被你那愚蠢的新教好人康德世界和平伦理所感染,这一点才变得明显对他们来说,以东不能系自己的鞋带,更不用说得到任何人的信任。

    你讨厌犹太人,因为我们会照顾好自己。 我们最终会恨你,因为你不是可靠协议的一方,你为此迫害我们。 不能指望你不仅保护我们,而且保护你自己,然后你转而反对我们,并指责我们为你的死亡。 从逻辑上讲,您受到了哈希姆的扑灭打击。 你自己带来的。 你们是大孩子,地球容不下你们的愚蠢。 你可以崇拜阿拉伯人,因为与你不同,他们知道如何战斗。

    犹太人不对白人自恨负责。 你是。 你自己无法变白、刮得干干净净、没有纹身。 白人被简化为一种边缘身份,一个新纳粹的万字符,是白人而不是犹太人的脑死亡监狱诱饵。 即使是阿拉伯人也与此无关。 当生存是 NRA(枪支)与 SJW 的二元选择时,您当然不得不责怪犹太人! 由于您只知道两种选择,顺从或谋杀,除了抱怨之外,还有什么是留给您做的。 你实际上不能做任何建设性的事情吗? 这显然不是一个选择,是吗? 要么是恨,要么是爱。 谋杀或屈服。

    但是责怪犹太人! 责备犹太人,因为你没有一个你自己不愿意支持的身份,除了通过暴力、抱怨或自我否定。

  320. 关于 Rav Aviner 。

    让我解释。 因为这里的文字主义者被带走了。 Aviner 是一个原教旨主义者。 这意味着,就像在所有原教旨主义的情况下一样,他以他认为合适的方式解释事物。 不像他的上级或同龄人认为合适。 他从庞大的犹太语语料库中挑选照片,符合他的目的,而忽略了同行的修正、纠正、警告,甚至是塔木德优先权的基本规则。 即使是右边最激进的拉比,也不会像 Aviner 那样阅读这些段落。 Aviner 的原教旨主义是他的选择性字面主义,就像那些将他炫耀为犹太教典范的人一样(Shamir and the one's comment here)

    这并不会使 Aviner 所说的所有内容无效。 Aviner 有权对其进行解释,他有权发表自己的意见。 允许我们在这里评论 Unz 的相同权利。 我们不必同意 Aviner 的观点,但我们应该能够表达方式和原因,并且我们质疑 Aviner 代表犹太教的说法。

    让我们从沙米尔主张的要点开始。 犹太人对圣母院的焚烧感到高兴吗? Aviner 代表犹太人吗? 拜托了,人们!

    当然不是。 这就是提出犹太人捐赠重建它的问题的重点。 有马克思主义者为燃烧而欢呼,但只有少数犹太人加入了他们的行列。 绝大多数犹太人感到震惊,并分担这场大火的痛苦。 事实上,粗略地概述一下你世界的反应,是一种全球性的,几乎完全的同情。 最大的欢呼燃烧的社区是伊斯兰教,但即使在那里,你也可以清楚地区分少数情绪。 不涉及帕里斯的郊区。 那里占多数,他们理所当然地被称为污秽。 但在伊朗、叙利亚、黎巴嫩、印度尼西亚、孟加拉国,你可以看到大量的支持。 (也许不是马格里布,在那里你看到了仇恨)。 犹太人? 犹太人 99% 感到震惊。 Antifa 的基督教白人男孩、DissidentNews 的马克思主义/无政府主义和 comp 也不能这样说。

    现在,犹太教和基督教之间是否存在真正的历史仇恨?

    当然!

    Aviner 是这种仇恨的产物吗?

    你打赌

    我们应该惊慌失措,这样的遗物存在吗?

    犹太人应该害怕有些人希望否认我们遭受大屠杀的痛苦。

    因为如果您现在对 Aviners 感到震惊,请想象一下当您吐口水并轻视犹太人在大屠杀中遭受的苦难时我们的感受。

    然而,出于对您言论自由的尊重,您希望我们容忍它。

    在这种情况下,不要因为 Aviner 对巴黎圣母院的看法而大哭一场。

    从历史上看,犹太人受到你们教会的迫害。 事实还是虚构?

    法律从狄奥多西开始,贯穿整个中世纪。 你不知道那些法律吗? 他们的应用? 还是我又在讨好无知的观众了!?

    在基督教世界中,没有任何地方可以容忍犹太人,不试图诋毁我们,也不想让我们像狗一样卑躬屈膝。 没有试图诋毁我们。 我们是“基督杀手”,我发现我们中的一些人因此而憎恨你们的教会,这完全正常、合理且可以接受。 令人难以置信的是,你们中的任何人都会感到震惊,是的,我们冒犯了,是的,我们发现其他政体更顺从,是的,偶尔会有一些犹太人对你们发动战争。 你的意思是不应该有历史因果期!?

    那是历史。 往事已往。 你们自己不再是基督徒。 你已经看到了基督教教条的荒谬。 平均而言,你们自己对自己的基督教纪念碑的了解比参观它们的受过文化教育的犹太人要少。 你看,作为犹太人,我们记得历史是有道理的。 当您去亵渎自己的祖父母信仰时,这就没有意义了。 喋喋不休谈论异教、沃坦、凯尔特德鲁伊等的不是犹太人。那是你自己的事。 最后我查了一下,犹太人没有参与其中。 站出来说“基督教是胡说八道”的不是犹太人。 作为一项规则,犹太人谈论对基督教的迫害,仇恨。 这在历史上是准确的,这不仅仅是“胡说八道”。 胡说八道是你们的堂兄弟,你们自己,对基督教的愚蠢大喊大叫。 对于犹太人来说,这是一个仇恨的问题,而不是对天使报喜或化身的空洞大喊大叫等。是的,看到区别,还是这所幼儿园?

    古往今来,那些敬拜基督的人,无情地迫害犹太人,这是事实。 另一个事实,是同样的人取得了巨大的艺术成就。 犹太人比你们大多数祖先是基督徒的知识分子更清楚这一点(但你自己是第一个攻击你祖先信仰的人)。 平均而言,犹太人比你更了解这种艺术,它的基督教比喻。 基督教的这一方面,即艺术方面,是犹太人所珍视的,远远超过你实际上看起来的能力。 这是我们可以认同的基督教的一部分,我们非常自豪地将犹太-基督教这个词投射到其中。

    任何熟悉 Talmud Torah 的人都知道 Aviner 来自哪里,但我们谁也无法认同它。 禁止毁坏偶像崇拜者的礼拜场所。 阅读你的旧约。 这也是一个落在你身上的禁令,这就是 Theodosious 和 comp 的原因。 从字面上摧毁了你的希腊异教神庙,以及大量的犹太教堂。 因此,犹太教对基督教有着自己矛盾的看法。 是偶像崇拜吗? 是的。 基督徒的偶像是崇拜者吗? 不。

    Aviner 只看到第一部分。 他的字面意思和字面上的疯狂的标志。 地球上几乎不超过 100 个犹太人可以同情 Aviner。 这绝对超出了我们的范围。 所以请放慢我们的脚步,除非你自己的原教旨主义真的想让我们回到中世纪,无知等等。

    请阅读此内容,而不是我的意见,或者 Shamir 相当缺乏的意见(涉及犹太教,不一定是犹太政治动态):
    https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/maimonides-islam-good-christianity-bad-muslims-bad-christians-good/2013/11/15/

    最后,Rambam 对拿撒勒人的实际描述是shituf。 由于你们中没有人对塔木德托拉的实际研究方式一无所知,因此 Rambam 的观点并不是在此类问题上唯一需要考虑的观点。 Aviner 是一个可怜的樱桃采摘者(尽管是必要的)是他选择忽略 Hameiri 和 The Rema。

  321. @AmRusDebate

    FFS! What’s with all the “be a man” crap? Your attempts to justify the unjustifiable are pathetic. Did your Rabbi bite off too much of your wee wee as a baby?

    One doesn’t have to love Arabs or Palestinians to be able to see that Israel’s conduct is not conducive to peace anywhere in the world. I would wager that the issue for a great many Americans is that they are more concerned about Israel’s interference in the affairs of the US, to its great detriment I must add, than to that of love of either Arabs or Palestinians. Most fair minded people believe that they are entitled to fairness and dignity in the land that they have lived in for centuries, if not millennia. The mind boggles at what might have been achieved in Palestine had just a fraction of what has been spent on war-making been spent on improvements instead in the region for the benefit of all.

    You rabbit on about terrorism saying that “All over the world, the philishtime Muslims are terrorists.” but even my dog knows that it was Israel that has used it more frequently in modern times than any other nation, relying on media lies to blame it on others so man up yourself and don’t think for a second that your bullshit lying is likely to gain any traction here, because it won’t.

    很明显你试图用纳粹牌来对付FB,他是二战德国国家社会党的一个非常明确的批评者。 下次再努力,失败者。

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  322. geokat62 说:
    @AmRusDebate

    多琳·多坦,是你吗?

    开始 @ 12:01

    And someone later on found it politically expedient to talk about some kind of falling the crumbs from the table. He talked of the Gentiles in terms of being the swine that he would not throw his pearls in front of. So, at best, you are those who are eating from the crumbs of the crumbs of the misunderstandings of our table. Don’t dare to presume that you’re the masters of the house. Know your place. Our tradition is not Navajo territory. It’s not Apache territory. You cannot take it by force. I do not share your delusions about yourself that you entertain. In my eyes, you’re people who are living on the land that you have no title to, practicing a religion you have no title to and no understanding of. Eating synthetic foods, taking drugs, drinking, and basically being pathologically delusional…

    Being as that’s the case, I feel some kind of moral responsibility toward you, as one would toward any progeny that just sort of happened along the way. Because even among progeny that sort of happens along the way, sometimes a wunderkind is born and for the sake of them it’s worth reaching out and embracing them and trying to bring them back into the real tent of Israel…

    I’m here to save your asses, at great expense to me. Because every minute I give you is less of a minute that I’m sitting and writing in Hebrew… (sucking her teeth) that’s right… this is strictly a mission of mercy…

    Your alternative to taking the very good advice that I’m offering to you in these videos is either the caldera, which will smoke you out of your reverie or the rats that are overtaking your cities [she must be referring to Seattle Washington. See Seattle Is Dying

    There is every chance that Trump is not going to be able to save your society. The revelations of his attachments to Epstein are going to cause him legal tangles. My understanding is that young girls were also brought in from Slavic countries into the modeling agency that he owns. I’m very sure that Trump was not involved in the worst of what was going on in the Epstein circles. Yet and still I also know that the circle of billionaires in the world is a small circle and they all hobnob with one another and they are dependent upon one another. And there is a limit to what he can do. So long as you are holding onto Christianity, you’re not allowing God’s blessing to come down to your level. You are effectively blocking it. Every time you call out in your idolatry, the supernal mothers recoil in horror… they turn their faces away from you. That is precisely why this winter is as harsh as it is. Hashemesh the son is pinay Sarah that is to say “the face of Sarah.” It’s also enay Sarah. It’s also “Sarah’s eyes.” She can’t look at you. If Sarah’s gotten to the point where she cannot look at you – she cannot face you anymore – you’re going to be frozen out. I hope you understand what these things mean… have some idea. If you do not give up the idol worship and the arrogance of Christianity, if you cherish ideas that you’re going to drag the Jews down to the pits along with you, you will be mulched on the dung heap of history. Please, please do not put me in a position where I turn to my mothers and say “I have done everything I can. I cannot help them.” All hell will break loose on you. Thank you for listening.

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  323. @AmRusDebate

    But whatever the Jews do that may appear positive is not for everybody’s benefit but for their own and once the game is up they’ll just move somewhere else, as they’ve done throughout history, to repeat the same somewhere else.

    Blaming Jews for everything may be unrealistic, but I think here you’re taking too much credit and also assuming that everybody wants to, or should, live according to the ways of the Jews.

    I agree what you say about the situation the Christian Palestinians are in now, since the creation of the state of Israel, and that Jews are not a direct threat to the everyday security of whites. I mean Jews rarely assault whites or commit violent crimes, nor is there any overt terrorism by Jews against whites. But if we dig deeper then we see Jews are indeed behind many of the policies that lead to the negative aspects of societies they dominate, the economic decline, immigration, foreign wars, etc. I need not repeat anything you don’t already know from reading UR, including claims by many that Israel and Mossad are directly involved in the creation of terrorist groups such as ISIS and their actions.

    Here you are blaming whites, and perhaps rightly so, for putting up with Jews and their uppity ways, but then Jews, despite their alleged intelligence, never seem to learn from history and just keep repeating, instead of learning how to live in harmony with their hosts. And even by Einstein’s definition of idiocy, you know the one about repeating mistakes, the Jews, having repeated them in 109 locations since 250 AD, must be extremely idiotic.

    但我同情犹太人让自己在以色列被阿拉伯敌人包围的困境,他们永远不会接受他们的存在,因为毕竟犹太人也是人。 我完全赞成与犹太人和平共处,但是这还没有被证明是可能的,这是谁的错?

    As far as whites in the western world go, now that there are so many muslims there and they far outnumber the Jews in Europe (and as you know many blame the Jews for this very situation), so it’s a three way fight and various alliances are possible. Or perhaps not, maybe the enemy of my enemy is after all not my friend.

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    , @AmRusDebate
  324. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @AmRusDebate

    You make a lot of assumptions about my position…which tells me I’m dealing with an unserious person…

    I actually don’t subscribe to the notion of the Israeli tail waving the American dog…and have caught lots of flak for mildly criticizing Philip Geraldi’s somewhat one sided analysis of the situation…the US imperial project needs Israel more than Israel needs the US…the UNZ mouthfoamers that think deporting Jews or something along those lines will of course be surprised that nothing changes…

    In fact there may come a day when the Empire will throw its erstwhile ally to the wolves…and I’m sure some Israelis realize this is perfectly in keeping with Empire’s track record of stabbing former lovers in the back…

    As for Muslims I have no delusions…my experience as a human being is that most people of whatever background are generally decent and concerned mostly about the eternal issues facing ordinary folks…how to get some measure of social justice…educate their kids and see them off on the right path etc…

    I don’t see Iran as some kind of Angel, not to mention KSA and others…at the same time it is the western imperialist secret services that have mobilized huge Jihadist armies and used them to create unbelievable havoc and human suffering in a number of places around the globe…Israel too has played its role on the wrong side of history here…actively propping up international terrorism in Syria…

    As for your supposed umbrage at my sharp comments to you in response to your attempt to justify cowardly crimes against civilians…get real…start acting like a mensch and I will treat you accordingly…

    In the final analysis Israel is shooting itself in the foot by frittering away global sympathy for the genocide Jews suffered in WW2…by all means a historically unique effort to extinguish an entire people…it is sad to see that such ugly hate lives on in the tiny, shriveled minds of the UNZ commentariat…

    But you have placed yourself exactly on that same level with your hate and gratuitous name calling against the Palestinians…also there is no truth to your bullshit that Christian Palestinians love the Jewish state…even Palestinians with Israeli citizenship realize they are second class citizens…

    In short Israel’s bad behavior is enabled by the insane imperialist US…but the country throwing its future on the trash heap…Israel needs to get out of the occupied territories as international law and UNSC Resolutions demand…and then start negotiating on a settlement with legitimate title holders of homes and farms that have not seen those homes and farms in 70 years…

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  325. geokat62 说:
    @FB

    Philip Geraldi’s somewhat one sided analysis of the situation…the US imperial project needs Israel more than Israel needs the US…

    This is a mischaracterization of PG’s analysis. The US doesn’t need Israel. It needs to free itself from undue Zionist influence that distorts US Foreign Policy from what the national interest would otherwise dictate. While you may deem this analysis “one-sided”, most objective observers would deem it “accurate.”

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  326. Dissident 说:

    Children who are attacked scream and run home to parents and police. If they didn’t run and scream, it wasn’t an attack.

    Individuals who prey-upon children often threaten their victims and intimidate them into silence.

    Chalk it up to a clumsy pass by a pathetic amateur; an unpleasant, shameful experience to be sure, but one unlikely to be repeated with a firm rebuke. Blame yourself for sending mixed signals, and go on with your life.

    儿童 should blame themselves for sending mixed signals to adult predators?

    Surely, Mr. Shamir conflates patent abuse of children with “MeToo”-type witchunts.

    The “paedo” angle is misleading. What is “a child”? Are you revolted by Romeo and Juliet?

    The lines do indeed begin to become blurred from puberty and then become increasingly so as adolescence progresses. (And yes, 恋童癖定义 is limited-to cases where the adult’s object of sexual desire is 青春期前. If post- or even peri-pubescent, the correct terms are 血友病嗜性粒细胞增多症.) That said, an adolescent, even if fully sexually mature from an anatomical/physiological/reproductive standpoint, is not correspondingly mature in the areas of mental and emotional 发展。

    Did Mr. Shamir actually mean to equate the sexual pursuit, on the part of a fully-grown adult man, of a girl of 14, 15 or even 16 with said pursuit by such a man of a fully-adult woman? To do that would seem little more reasonable than equating (even) the former (i.e., adult sexually pursuing a post-pubescent adolescent) with one who sexually pursues a pre-pubsecent child.

    Juliet was 14, and thus Romeo today would be tried and locked up as a “paedophile”,

    The prophet Muhammad married nine-year-old Aisha, but Jacob, the Biblical patriarch, surpassed him and married Rachel who was only 7. In our modern world Jacob and Muhammad would be hunted down, extradited and jailed.

    Regardless of what may or may not have occurred in history or any mythological or literary context, the salient question here is: Did Mr. Shamir really mean to suggest that any society 今晚 should accept or even 容忍 the sexual pursuit, by adult men, of even nine-year-old girls, much less children of only XNUMX所 年份?

    the Mother of our Saviour was just 14 at Annunciation.

    不会 societal and historical context need to be considered there?

    An adult man marrying a girl of 14 in a time and culture where such was within the norm is very different than anything we would talk about here, in today’s West. Differences in age of maturation as well as in life-expectancy are among the factors that must be considered.

    Greek tradition approves of mature women who are willing to share their expertise with growing boys.

    They [i.e., leaders within and spokesmen for the Roman Catholic Church] can’t say “pederasty”; they must pretend this is “paedophilia”. They are forbidden to defrock a homosexual priest lest they be accused of “homophobia”.

    Hmm…a most interesting juxtaposition there… Doesn’t Greek tradition have something to say about 专制 以及?

  327. Dissident 说:

    Apropos and worthy of consideration:

    同性恋与教会危机 (Brian Clowes,2010年)

    摘抄:

    此策略还有一个强大的防御元素。 教会的反对者知道,男性同性恋与儿童性虐待之间存在有据可查的牢固关联,但声称没有证据支持这种联系。

    And, of course, those who are currently attacking the Church hope that they can undermine its moral authority to preach on the sinfulness of homosexual behavior and weaken its opposition to ersatz homosexual “marriage.”

    This August 26, 2018 comment by “HA” in a Steve Sailer thread, as well as other comments in the same thread– both by the same author as well some by different authors.

    摘抄:

    […]确实令人愤慨,但就改进而言,值得询问是否有人做得更好,并且考虑到经常在学区发生的虐待,天主教徒可能会目前远低于“平均水平”。 但是,通过向其他机构投掷污垢来获得的金钱或普利策奖并没有那么多,因此很难进行诚实的比较,并且任何数字都有很大的误差线。

    I would contend that at least much of the basic, general points made in the writing I link above could also be applied to other traditionalist religious organizations and communities, Christian, Jewish and even Muslim.

  328. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @geokat62

    I agree that ordinary American people don’t need Israel…but the maniacs in DC that want to rule the world with an iron fist see Israel as the lynchpin of their mad plan for world domination…that goes for a lot of religious crazies also…I survived an evangelical childhood and let me tell you it’s no picnic…we’re dealing with millions of full on crazies…

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  329. tac 说:
    @Iris

    Just so people understand how difficult it is to set fire to oak and that it is more likely than not that this incident was no accident at all look at the experiment conducted in the following video that tries to recreate this feat (it was posted on April 19th as has upwards of 600K views already):

  330. tac 说:

    Indeed Pamela Geller is a racist Jewess supremacist who is tasked with running the anti-muslim angle of the Hegelian Dialectic psyop (think: ‘what is good for the jews’) while demonizing Muslims; it seemingly comes as second nature to her. Recall the pro-Israel yet somehow–in the same breath–a ‘white nationalist’ Norwegian mass murderer agent and tool Anders Behring Breivik煽动灵感 只为 保护 by her; she even testified in his defense.

    What is striking, however, is that Breivik blames not only Muslims but also Marxists–without a single thought relative to history of who the ‘marxists’ where. This indeed makes him a useful idiot goy. The money trail for someone ostensibly poor speaks volumes that ‘others’ where involved!

    Richard Spencer was also part of the 掩饰 的网络 受控反对派 剂。

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    , @Grace Poole
  331. renfro 说:
    @AmRusDebate

    Rage Jew !…..Rage Away !

    Now that you’ve expelled some of your hatred for and jealousy of Gentiles and Americans do you feel better?
    Your problem is Jews like you can never really ‘feel better’ because you know in the back of your mind that Jews and Israel both exist only as long as tolerant Gentiles, other non Jews (and whoever you can bribe) allow you to exist.
    You can’t exist without gentiles, you never could, and knowing that leads you to bite the hand that feeds you out of resentment of your dependence on us. It causes you to howl with hubris about the power we have 借来的 你。
    和往常一样,你在地球上的狂妄自大和破坏性浪费越来越大,直到我们再次被迫贬低你。

    你永远不会学习。

  332. geokat62 说:
    @tac

    理查德 Spencer was also part of the cover-up and a controlled opposition agent.

    我想你是想写 罗伯特· Spencer, right?

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  333. renfro 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    但我同情犹太人将自己置于以色列被阿拉伯敌人包围的困境,他们永远不会接受他们的存在,因为毕竟犹太人也是人

    I think you would change your mind on that if you studied the 50 year history of the ‘Peace ‘ efforts.
    即 2000 年的阿拉伯和平计划。它保证以色列完全接受、贸易权利和外交关系,以及他们要求的一切,以换取以色列在创建以色列的联合国第 181 号决议中撤回以色列的原始边界。

    They refused that because for Israel its never been about peace with the Palestines its ALWAYS been about seizing ALL of Palestine. The UN gave Israel 51% of Palestine land—Israel now has 84% of Palestine land thru illegal seizures and wars.

    I do not sympathize with them because from the begining it was their intent to ultimately take over all of Palestine and transfer the Palestines…..they could have done the right thing any time during the past 70 years…but they didn’t…and they won’t.

    阿拉伯和平倡议:全文
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/28/israel7

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  334. @Commentator Mike

    我的朋友,问题在于我们俩。 和我们一起没有反击过反白人的领导层的犹太人。 白人专注于智商和过去,而不是组织起来保护现在。 我认为这是一个合理的结论,不是吗?

    我们需要共同点。 我们需要明确将社区聚集在一起的方式。 没有办法避免。

    我承认犹太人已经变得非理性地反白人,但看看我们正在处理什么! 承认即使是我在这里得到的评论——指责犹太人基本上是 911 和所有恐怖事件的幕后黑手。 这太白痴了。 谁能和这样的人一起工作? 白人需要加强他们的比赛。 (我并不否认在 Quinatra 帮助 Jaish Al Fatah。我不同意这样的政策。创建 ISIS?这简直是愚蠢的。911!?绝对智障)

  335. @renfro

    啊。 这就是为什么阿拉法特不得不为此被拉到谈判桌前的原因。 巴拉甚至准备放弃耶路撒冷和圣殿土墩。 阅读克林顿自己的故事。

  336. @NoseytheDuke

    纳粹卡? 亲爱的,你误导了你的评论!

    关于你对以色列的看法。 如果您认为我们实际上对美国实施了任何恐怖行为,您就被迷惑了。 你不必爱以实玛利人,所以不要为了他们而四肢走动! 他们是犯罪败类。 你看不出来吗!? 你有那么迷信吗!?

    我从来没有说过我对美以关系的看法。 我对这些事情只字未提。 如果被问到,我可以。 我认为这很复杂,如果您不知道我的看法,请不要在我嘴里说。

    “做一个男人” 废话 与成年有关。 你需要戒掉你的药物女士,或者停止阅读阴谋网站。 暗示犹太人直接伤害了美国,或者伤害了美国人,如果可以的话,去呼吸新鲜空气。

    犹太社区在优先事项方面存在很大问题。 美国的白人并不容易。 他们都变性了。 这也是人员配备的一部分。 即少打嗝,多走路。 成为可靠的合作伙伴。 你是那些诋毁你自己的白人的人。 不要为此责怪犹太人。 大多数犹太人也是白人。 这不仅仅取决于我们,这将如何发挥作用。

    下次请你清醒一点。

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  337. @geokat62

    这个多琳似乎是个疯子。 也就是说,她是对的:

    吃合成食品,吸毒,喝酒,基本上是病态妄想……

  338. Well, get smart for once. Jews and other in groups need hatred. They need to provoke it to justify their cruel tribal discipline and need to feel it to justifying doing what makes them hated.

    In their own teachings, they know that you need a Haman in order to have a Mordecai, so you need to be nasty enough to have a deal stream.

    They are total hypocrites. The were genocidal when they got to the Holy Land, but resent it when others point the same “Death Bone” at them. Being cowards, they snivel to gain pity and hope others will do their dirty work.

    We are just barnyard animals to them, but they get into a snit, when things go the other way.

  339. @AmRusDebate

    没有我们,美国就不会是美国。 我们让你成为今天的你。 你的圣诞歌曲,你所有 30 年代及以上的经典电视节目。 您在屏幕上的所有特许经营权。 你的一切。 更别提音乐了。 因此,在你开始对犹太人的仇恨之前,首先要承认这个等式也有信用的一面。 在你去找那个会鸡奸你的阿拉伯人之前,三思而后行,三思而后行。

    你欠了这么一笔债。 你自己莫名其妙的懒惰、迟钝,应该归咎于你无法​​以一种可以与犹太人谈判的方式组织自己,这是一个尊重的民族主义协议。

    你只能怪你自己。 你下意识的歇斯底里。 你下意识的绝对极端主义。

    在犹太人将美国人改造成犹太-波兰-魏玛破产的下水道之前,今天是德国人的勤奋和纪律,工业天才; 意大利美学(意大利人创造了歌剧,是现在堕落的电影和音乐产业的鼻祖); 欧洲基督教文化价值观和苏格兰-威尔士-盎格鲁传统定义了美国的歌曲、娱乐、音乐、社区组织。

    USA was better before Jews “made us what we are today.”

    It’s been several years since I commented on Mondoweiss; I dropped out after Phil wrote an amazingly straightforward, maybe even boastful/gloating column about how “Jews are now in charge in USA,” after years, rather, generations of Jewish hatred and resentment of WASPs and attempts to displace / replace them.

    像我这样头脑简单的人,首先想到的是,美国从来没有这么激动过; 菲尔告诉我,犹太人现在掌权。 那里有因果关系吗? 你觉得?

    -

    John Henry uses his wealth and talents to create a forum and audience for thoughts he thinks are important to American citizens. A play he wrote, Republic Undone, will be presented on May 18 in rural Virginia, and again May 21 in DC at the National Women’s Democratic Club
    https://www.stonehilltheatricalfoundation.org/republicundone.html

    We live in a Wilsonian America. We began with a Madisonian America. Against the backdrop of World War I, John Henry’s Republic Undone dramatizes the conflict over the meaning of the American Revolution — what it means to be an American.

    该剧讲述了当伍德罗·威尔逊上台并策划美国加入大战时,舞台上出现的众多个性。 他的第一任妻子艾伦、安德鲁·卡内基、威廉·詹宁斯·布莱恩、爱丽丝·保罗和亨利·卡博特洛奇主张建立一个崇尚三权分立并禁止总统战争的麦迪逊式美国。 豪斯上校、玛丽·派克和他的第二任妻子伊迪丝捍卫了一个威尔逊式的美国,向无限的行政权力致敬,他们出国寻找要摧毁的怪物。
    未完成的共和国探索了威尔逊的自恋性格,因为他粉碎了任何反对他意志的人。 詹姆斯麦迪逊的鬼魂攻击威尔逊,因为威尔逊摧毁了确保和平的共和国,使男女能够向自己的鼓手进军。 威尔逊认为麦迪逊是一件博物馆藏品,会阻碍美国人在世界每个角落传播善良。

    在我看来,威尔逊只是 测试,麦迪逊设想的美国第一个大裂缝 . 利用这一立足点,像路易斯·布兰代斯、费利克斯·法兰克福、塞缪尔·安特迈耶、拉比斯蒂芬·怀斯、摩根豪斯这样的大犹太复国主义者,要么购买、勒索或操纵罗斯福达成浮士德式的交易,并利用和颠覆美国的权力和威望来达到他们的目的,然后超越美国人口几乎全部。

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  340. @tac

    the Hegelian Dialectic psyop (think: ‘what is good for the jews’)

    那是什么意思?

    How does the term, “Hegelian Dialectic” clarify “psyop” or ” ‘what is good for the jews’ “?

    • 回复: @tac
  341. Hibernian 说:
    @j2

    You’re right about Luther, but, as to your last sentence, as time went on, Protestant groups formed by breaking away from existing Protestant groups.

  342. @AmRusDebate

    Lucid? You intentionally misread just about everything in my comment. Duke/Duchess, LOL. Try to be less rabid and less of a liar too, I do realise that I’m asking the near impossible from you but try.

    I did not mention US – Israel relations, I stated that Israel interferes in US affairs to its detriment, I meant things like elections, foreign policy, military matters, and various fraudulent practices, things that you can’t refute without being a liar. Oops, I’ve already addressed that.

    犹太人不对白人自恨负责。 你是。 你自己无法变白、刮得干干净净、没有纹身。 白人被简化为一种边缘身份,一个新纳粹的万字符,是白人而不是犹太人的脑死亡监狱诱饵。

    Take note of yourself playing the “Nazi card” here and I won’t bother listing the numerous instances of Israeli terrorism, many of them staged to be attributed to Palestinians and Islamists who always seem to leave Qurans and passports around to “clear up” any doubt about the identities of the perpetrators.

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  343. renfro 说:
    @Grace Poole

    It’s been several years since I commented on Mondoweiss; I dropped out after Phil wrote an amazingly straightforward, maybe even boastful/gloating column about how “Jews are now in charge in USA,” after years, rather, generations of Jewish hatred and resentment of WASPs and attempts to displace / replace them.

    Yes I remember those. I dropped out of mondo also but not because of that or his similar essays:…..which all continued his theme of how Jews were superior to gentiles.
    https://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/notes-on-my-racism-part-1/
    https://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/notes-on-my-racism-part-2/
    https://mondoweiss.net/2010/10/notes-on-my-racism-part-3-my-people/

    I just got tired of the double standards on raking the WASP over the coals but not being able to even objectively critique Jewish culture in regard to Israeli mentality.
    We token gentiles were in truth the only ones who brought any real meat to discussions.
    MW has really declined since.
    Once Phil claimed that Jews were responsible for creating the US Ivies. I responded with the founding histories and founders of every university….which contained no Jewish contribution in any way…..but he never acknowledged it.

    I don’t dislike Phil, I see him as very conflicted ….he wanted to be like the WASP guys he saw at Harvard….as he described them in one essay — ‘so free and easily confident’ in themselves but he never could be of course. So he’s always been stuck in his ‘admire vr resent’ feelings about gentiles.
    It has seemed to me that a lot of the outlandish bragging of some Jews really stems from a deep seated inferiority complex and they cover that nagging feeling in themselves by constant bragging about Jewish brilliance and etc…

  344. Miggle 说:
    @FB

    Can you give us an insider’s view of an evangelical childhood? The word Evangelical originally mean Lutheran as distinct from Calvinist. Essentially it means Gospel-based, the Gospel is the Evangel. Can you tell us what it means from your perspective?

    • 回复: @FB
  345. tac 说:
    @geokat62

    My mistake, thanks for the correction geokat.

  346. tac 说:
    @Grace Poole

    9/11 –> Wars for Israel in the ME while Americans get shafted with the ‘Patriot Act’. This is just one glaring example. False-flag terrorism …. to which I’ve referenced the Breivik case and one can make the case that the the Christchurch shooter Brenton Tarrant falls into the same category.

    BTW: my original comment to which you’ve responded to was meant as a rely to @renfro.

    • 回复: @Grace Poole
    , @tac
  347. Iconoclast 说:

    一个小建议:驳回上世纪文书虐待的所谓受害者。 送他们回家。 我并不为这些迟到的索赔人感到难过。 为什么他们等了20年才抱怨? 被袭击的孩子尖叫着跑回家找父母和警察。 如果他们没有奔跑和尖叫,那就不是攻击。 把它归结为一个可怜的业余爱好者的笨拙传球; 可以肯定的是,这是一种不愉快、可耻的经历,但不太可能以严厉的斥责重演。 责怪自己发出了混杂的信号,然后继续你的生活。 加入人类:我们每个人,甚至你的爸爸妈妈,都遭受过不受欢迎的亲吻或不受欢迎的拥抱。 法律应该是合理的。 允许 20 年前未报告的违规行为提出索赔是不合理的。 只有直接指控才应被视为有效,在大多数情况下,24 小时足以提出正式投诉。

    It seems the writer does disdain the Goy, some habits are hard to break. This is one of the most ignorant, vile statements I have come across and much of the text is not much better. He needs to do some study in regards how easily “children” yes these are children with young innocent and susceptible minds that are easily scared into submission and silence. He unfortunately embodies to much of what the Talmud teaches. He highlights the reason “Dirty Jew” is still in use.

    • 回复: @NoseytheDuke
  348. @Iconoclast

    I agree with you that those are ignorant and vile statements. I would recommend that in future, when you paste a comment from an article or other commenter, highlight it and hit the block quote feature or at least use quotation marks lest it appear that that is part of your own comment. Cheers

  349. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Miggle

    Sure…basically it means crazy people that believe in the imminent Second Coming…preceded by the rapture of course…and fanatical proselytizing to win new converts…this entails a very large and active role in global missionary work…

    They would endlessly repeat the line that Christ can’t come until each and every person on earth has been told about Christianity…since that’s only fair that everyone could have a choice whether to accept Jesus or not…of course one of my earliest paradoxes even as a kid was about all the ‘savages’ that lived in previous times and died without ever having been offered the ‘choice’…of course the church brain trust could not ever answer even this child level logic…

    My mom used to tell me that for every person I converted I would get an actual star in my ‘crown’ that we would wear in heaven…as in literally in the sense of the astrophysical objet…LOL

    Formally I believe the term ‘evangelical’ means salvation through faith in Jesus Christ alone…I know nothing about Lutherans except they seemed more normal…for die hard evangelicals the church is EVERYTHING…you don’t make friends with people outside the church…and it’s basically we’re ‘saved’ and they’re not…but we have to somehow ‘save’ them…whether they like it or not…

    Oh and also huge love for Israel…since Armageddon would start there and bring about Jesus’ return…

  350. @tac

    Thank you, tac; I get that background & the connections.

    Maybe I’m being a pain in the arse here, but what I do NOT understand is how “Hegelian dialectic” makes those points.

    Why did you include “Hegelian dialectic” in your comment?
    What did you expect it would add to the reader’s understanding of information you wished to convey?

  351. Mark 说: • 您的网站

    Read Unz all the time, handful else.

    First-time commenter.

    Respect to Israel and Paul. And ‘especially, of course, including the comments’.

    写道: http://www.truthscoop.net/777 上。

    谢谢大家。

    纪念

  352. tac 说:
    @tac

    Hegelian dialectic = problem.reaction.solution
    –> problem = create/hype-up a perceived problem –> ‘terrorism’ as viewed by Israelis (while ignoring their bloody incursion into Palestine). Let’s make it the West’s problem, not only our own. Those evil muzzies cannot stand democracy, the Western way of life, ‘freedom’, etc. …. so time to teach ’em a lesson: fly two airplanes into the Capital center of the West, i.e. NYC Twin Towers, make a 330 degree corkscrew turn–against all odds, yet not paying attention to the incoming warnings by the Dick Cheney (who told his subordinates to stand down literally against and incoming threat)–SIMPLY TO HIT DEAD CENTER ON the office of the Naval Intelligence who was investigating among other things the \$2.3 trillion dollars that were announced missing by the then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld?

    –> reaction = propose a pre-planned ready-to-go objective–which serves no American interests–and sell it to the emotionally gullible public as a proper reaction to the aforementioned ‘crime’–all the while ignoring the true culprits of said deception.

    –> solution = a years-back pre-planned Jewish created (in the late 70s) plan to create a Greater Yisrael (Oded Yinon Plan) by way of world-wide ‘War on Terrorism’.

    CUI BONO? It only takes a micro-second to come up with answer to this ‘question’. Hope that bit helps.

  353. tac 说:

    Sorry, my last reply was meant for @Grace Poole. Thank you for you your question. In the simplest terms I’ve laid out the general thesis. Please continue if you have any further questions, as–in my experience– it is fruitless to bore the individual with historic citations and simply too much information per se.

  354. @NoseytheDuke

    我觉得我在和一个疯子说话。 也许您不是其中之一,但您需要更加专注于女士。 你自己引用我的文字的哪一部分:

    白人被简化为一种边缘身份,一个新纳粹的万字符,是白人而不是犹太人的脑死亡监狱诱饵。

    你是否被同化为“打纳粹牌”

    ?

    重新阅读,直到你发现没有人打过纳粹牌。 事实上,我观察到,白人的身份是被低能者抓住的。

    即那些指责犹太人犯下他人恐怖行为的白痴。 你对自己编造的东西大发雷霆。 就像穆斯利姆人声称他们所谓的每一个行为都是犹太人所为。

    你是白人智商问题的一个很好的例子。 与 Sailer 和 Comp 的说法相反。 白人并不比其他任何人更聪明,但他们是唯一一个拥有如此声称的成员的群体。

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @FB
  355. 随着圣地亚哥犹太教堂的枪击事件,我认为那些将 911 事件归咎于犹太人,并声称犹太人是穆斯林恐怖行为的幕后黑手的人——圣地亚哥就在你手中。

    你对犹太人的痴迷诽谤,越过了煽动的门槛。

    犹太人不会谋杀、射击、抢劫、抢劫、强奸欧洲或美国的任何人。 不成比例地——穆斯林这样做。 非洲人会。 拉丁美洲人会。 低级白人会。

    犹太人的蓝领犯罪记录是少数族裔中最低的。 与其编造关于犹太人的狗屎,你应该开始区分政治权力和政治斗争的问题。

    编造关于犹太人的狗屎,导致愚蠢的乡下人攻击我们的犹太教堂。 这对任何人都不利,尤其是对白人外邦人而言。 你已经是最容易的目标,所以不要让你的敌人更容易。 保持犹太人问题的政治性,不要因为我们没有做的事情而责备我们,你们中间印象越差的人就越不高兴。 记住——你可能认为你很聪明——但你的阿巴拉契亚表亲不是。 当您吐出关于犹太人这样做的垃圾时,犹太人这样做了,这些堂兄弟可能会拖累您。

    我知道面对系统中的真正罪魁祸首需要勇气——肆虐的暴力少数群体,武装的、冲动的和致命的……但是,是的,不要将犹太人混入其中。 我们不射击任何人,我们不抢劫任何人。 我们没有让飞机飞进世贸中心。 剩下的就是猜测,在它把你自己的事业推向地下之前,先别管它。 学会区分你的妄想和基于证据的连贯辩论。

    犹太人的手上没有你的血,但你们这些煽动反对我们的人手上有犹太人的血。

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @anon
  356. Iris 说:
    @AmRusDebate

    白人并不比其他任何人更聪明,但他们是唯一一个拥有如此声称的成员的群体。

    The overwhelming bulk of fundamental science and technology over the last two centuries was produced by “Whites”. A few Jewish individuals were able to make a contribution too, but only within the framework of an advanced Gentile society which educated them, and allowed them to thrive.

    你应该表达感激之情,但对那些你讨厌比你优越的人表现出仇恨。

    • 回复: @j2
  357. Iris 说:
    @AmRusDebate

    随着圣地亚哥犹太教堂的枪击事件,我认为那些将 911 事件归咎于犹太人的人,

    这种观点的人更具体: 以色列 负责策划、组织和执行9/11:

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

  358. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @AmRusDebate

    I agree with your observation about the ‘white IQ’ canard that the Nazi mouthfoamers here on UNZ drone on about endlessly…one big circle jerk, proving only how much evolving they still have left to do…

    However you badly misjudge Nosey to be among that crowd…if you had any sense or faculties of observation [not to mention sound judgement]…you would not be making such laughable accusations against one of the few reasonable and balanced commenters here…and definitely one of the most polite…

    In short you show yourself to be a buffoon of the same level of mental acuity as the morons you make fun of…

    • 回复: @NoseytheDuke
  359. j2 说:
    @Iris

    “Whites are not detectably smarter than anyone else, but they are the only group who has members who claim so.”

    Most whites do not, it is Ashkenazi Jews (also white) who make this claim of themselves, and with very weak evidence.

    • 回复: @Iris
  360. Iris 说:
    @j2

    Hello J2; I hope you are doing well.

    The blockquoted statement regarding “Whites” bragging about their IQ was made by the Hasbara troll, not by me. I completely disagree with it. White Europeans have immensely contributed to human civilisation; people who don’t recognise this fact are uneducated.

    To be clear, I disagree with racists from all ethnic backgrounds. The concept of “race” is an extremely weak argument to make a point in a discussion, but one to which, significantly, the Hasbara often turn to. Regards.

    • 回复: @j2
  361. j2 说:
    @Iris

    “The blockquoted statement regarding “Whites” bragging about their IQ was made by the Hasbara troll, not by me.”

    Hi Iris, I understood that it was not you who made the comment, only that you are a so much nicer person, so I preferred to reply to your comment rather than to some terrible hasbara troll. I try to stay away from them.

    “Hello J2; I hope you are doing well.”

    Well, missing my only reader, otherwise fine. By the way, I made a calculation how the WTC Ground Zero temperatures might have been created conducting through steal structures from a small hot spot of 300 Celsius and starting new fires for a pronged time, yet I do not completely discard the nuke theory either. Regards and all the best, j2

    • 哈哈: FB
  362. @FB

    Thanks, FB. Mouthfoaming occurs across the board it seems, I think that’s all part of the plan. That a “person” who condones the shooting murder of unarmed civilians by trained military “men” would then call me a lunatic, well that has to be textbook insanity itself, chutzpah or something like that.

    Damn, if they’d spent just a fraction of their military budget, courtesy of US taxpayers, on making the place great for everyone they would own most of it by now anyway, and it might be the newest hotspot on the Med. I can dream. LOL. That their business, but I hate that the US, Europe and places like where I live are being both looted and subverted into destructive and immoral wars and there seems to be a strong connection. Cheers

    • 同意: Iris
  363. Dissident 说:
    @anon

    Responding only to the 标题//lede frame images of the two videos you embedded, neither of which I have watched or have any familiarity with, I feel impelled note the following.

    – Concerning so-called “Rabbi” David Bar Hayim, to say that this individual dwells well outside of the confines of anything that could legitimately be considered normative, Torah-true Judaism would be an understatement. Notwithstanding how learned Bar Hayim may (or may not) be, how impressive a background in Judaic scholarship he may (or may not) be able to boast, or how devout or pious some may claim him to be, the man (Bar Hayim) has clearly made a number of public statements and issued a number of “rulings”* that (from any normative Orthodox Judaic perspective) 事实本身 disqualify and invalidate any claims to religious authority on his part. (*Note that Bar Hayim’s unacceptable and disqualifying positions, while certainly 如: his rabid Zionism, are not 有限 到它。)

    – “TEL AVIV SKYSCRAPER: REMAKE OF TOWER OF BABEL OR PREPARATION FOR THIRD TEMPLE”: A unanimous consensus of the canonical Judaic texts and relevant rabbinical rulings are clear and unequivocal that any re-building of the Holy Temple as prophesied in the Hebrew Scriptures can only be built in 耶路撒冷, on the site where the previous Temples stood, and only after the Messiah prophesied in said Scriptures will have arrived and re-established the rule of the Davidic dynasty in the Holy Land. While I know nothing of the structure that the video speaks-of, I can confidently say that the suggestion that the Third Temple could be built 分析数据 outside of the Holy City of Jerusalem is both preposterous as well as heretical.

    • 回复: @Dissident
  364. Anonymous [AKA "NewBoethius"] 说:

    I come from where the author comes, and I agree with most of what he says, including that accusations of pedophilia against a tiny minority of Catholic clerics (many of whom are dead and cannot defend themselves) are being used unjustly to attack a church that over 20 centuries has inspired many millions of men and women to forsake material wealth and sexual satisfaction in order to minister as teachers, nurses, and spiritual advisors to ordinary people, including non-Christians. However, there is a difference between pedophilia by Catholic priests and by Jewish rabbis and evangelical ministers, namely that the Catholic Church is hierarchical and imposes on its bishops a duty to ensure faithful execution of vows by nuns, monks, and priests that cannot be similarly imposed on ministers of Judaism, evangelical Protestantism, and other faiths that do not follow the Catholic hierarchical model (in some cases explicitly rejecting it).

  365. Dissident 说:
    @Dissident

    现在已经去听了嵌入的第一个视频的音频 评论 #384,上行,我认为我必须修改我之前的帖子以做出批判性的澄清。 因为 David Bar-Hayim* 在该特定演讲中提出的具体断言和论点不仅完全正确和有效,而且非常密切相关。

    促进第三世界移民进入白人占多数的国家并破坏传统欧洲文化和习俗的犹太人这样做 尽管 犹太教. 绝大多数这样的犹太人完全是 与犹太教疏远. (From the perspective of which many such Jews are nothing short-of outright heretics and apostates.) The ideology and positions that fall under the heading ‘Cultural Marxism’ are, far from representative of or consistent with Judaism, actually 违反 它。

    让白人国家保持白人。 让基督教国家保持基督教。 让穆斯林国家继续穆斯林。 等等等等。

    至于 Bar-Hayim 在链接/嵌入式演示文稿中也提出的断言,即以色列土地(埃雷茨·伊斯雷尔(Eretz Yisrael)) 是犹太人唯一真正的故乡,我将只提供最简短的缩略图处理此事。 (承认这是一个在目前场地的范围和限制内根本无法真正做到公正的话题。)

    是的,《希伯来语经卷》和其他文本和传统的经典,在真正的犹太教中,伴随、补充和阐明了上述圣经(塔纳赫) 非常明确和清楚地表明,上帝赐予以色列土地作为犹太人永恒的家园。 然而,相同的规范文本和传统语料库也告诉我们, 正是同一位上帝将我们从上述土地上流放出来,并禁止我们重新建立对其任何部分的主权 在他的受膏者(弥赛亚; 哈梅莱赫哈马希亚赫)我们继续祈祷和等待。

    *If only Bar-Hayim would repent of his heresies, Zionist and otherwise. Then I might accord him the title ‘Rabbi’.

    • 回复: @AmRusDebate
  366. Dissident 说:
    @anon

    Please be sure to see the followup I have now made to the initial reply I had made to your post. Despite being dead wrong (to the point of heresy) in numerous other areas, when it comes to the assertions made in the first video embedded into anon[202]’s comment (#384), Bar-Hayim is most correct. Jews who promote immigration are (a) not informed by, representative of, or loyal to 犹太教 and (b) a major cause of resentment, animosity, ill-will and worse against Jews worldwide. Alas.

    (As for the 第二 embedded video, I remain completely unfamiliar with its contents.)

    • 回复: @anon
  367. @Dissident

    不是由你来决定谁是拉比,谁不是拉比。 Rav Bar-Hayim 的任命是稳固的。

    一般而言,非犹太人也不能决定谁是犹太人的“代表”,谁不是犹太人的“代表”。 更何况我们不决定谁领导天主教会或伊斯兰团体。

  368. 我坚持认为,将 911(以及西方的各种恐怖行为)归咎于犹太人与枪杀犹太人的白人新纳粹分子之间有着明显的关系。 诸如此类的虚假声明无异于煽动。 这里重复他们的人,从来没有接受过相反的观点(即你读到犹太人是如何做到的,但你没有读到任何反驳)。 你们玷污犹太人,结果头脑薄弱的读者就会想到去开枪射击犹太教堂。 如果你有任何诚信,你就会放弃声称犹太人对西方任何人造成身体伤害的说法。

    我不了解“白人”和文化成就,但淡化犹太人的贡献是有风险的。 犹太人是白人,因此没有人怀疑所讨论的成就,但这与普通外邦人的智商无关,而是与更高端的激励、企业和智商有关。

    当前高科技的爆炸式增长与全球高科技经济中的亚洲人有关。 日本生产的电子游戏比美国和欧洲加起来还要多。 超级计算机现在是亚洲的。 最好的研究现在在中国。 30 年来,美国博士主要由亚洲研究人员主导。 硅谷的老派欧洲人代表性不足。 在现代世界中,白人外邦人很少表现出他们自吹自擂的智商。 美国不生产一个高科技品牌是有原因的。 更不用说欧洲,这简直是可笑的。

    你可以把它归咎于黑基(我有时会这样做),但最后,从这里评论的质量来看……。 您缺乏基本的理解技能(这些评论的任何客观读者都会观察到的简单事实)。

    此致

    哈斯巴拉巨魔! (谢谢你的称赞。 )

  369. I maintain that there is a clear relationship between blaming Jews for 911 ( and assorted terrorist acts in the West) and White neo-nazi incels shooting up Jews.

    You besmirch Jews, and as a result feeble minded readers take it into their mind to go and shoot up synagogues. If you had any integrity, you’d back off claims that Jews physically harm anyone in the West.

    To write about the poor of the quality of the comments here while you write the absurd comments laden with falsehoods that you do, you are clearly a blatant liar as well as being deluded to the point of insanity, as previously mentioned. In your defence it is as likely due to genetics as it is to your “upbringing”.

  370. anon[202]• 免责声明 说:
    @Dissident

    持不同政见者

    It seems, then, that there is nowhere in the world where Judaism is faithfully practiced. The second video, of the construction of a Tower of Babel in Tel Aviv, indicates that Israel is Judenrein,

    The juxtaposition was (one of) the points of my comment.

    The first point intended by posting the rabbi’s exegesis was that it is logical and natural that non-Jews should be resentful of those Jews who are provoking mass immigration and the Tower of Babel situation in their own European countries.

    A second point follows from the first: these things are being done deliberately, with known negative consequences. Those Jews, as well as non-Jews, who deliberately provoke negative consequences must be held accountable for them.
    Notice the comment of NewBoethius @ 391: the Catholic Church bears greater culpability because it has a hierarchy that is supposed to discipline wrong-doers such as the pedophile priests. I am not Jewish, I don’t know how discipline is managed within the Jewish community, apparently there are no such forms of control within the group; Jews seem to devote their energies to disciplining non-Jews, i.e. ADL, the 52 Leaders, etc. require that non-Jews conform to Jewish dictates.

    It’s an inversion of the Jewish corporatist establishment, or state-within-a-state regime before emancipation in 1789, in which the sovereign or monarch of the state in which Jews dwelt conveyed to Jewish leaders the power to collect taxes from, and mete out punishment, even capital punishment, to, their own Jewish community members.

    A third point was raised in 1917, when Jews planned their negotiating stance at Versailles: many Jews said that the creation of a zionist state in Palestine would erode their rights in other states where they dwelt. They “compromised” — they demanded, and got, both. (In my view, this is the main reason Weimar was such an offense to the German people: perceiving a post-war and post-revolution vacuum and a weakness, Jews seem to have been emboldened to believe, and act, as if Germany was theirs to rule.) Thus, if what you say is true, then the entire zionist project is non-Judaic. I believe Gertrude Stein made that point in 1920.
    Zionists have put Judaism in an impossible position.

    Which creates a fourth conundrum, that AmRusDebate implies in #394:
    “Nor for non-Jews in general to decide who is and is not “representative” of Jews.” Anymore so than we don’t decide who leads Catholic church or Islamic groups.

    The balancing claim to ARD’s statement is: It is not for Jews to demand that non-Jews grant them special privileges within non-Jewish states, and to cycle back to Bar-Hayim, attempts to do so will inevitably be met with resentment. If that resentment is not addressed appropriately, it will, once again, inevitably, erupt in very unpleasant ways.

    Herzl was aware of the sixth point, as was Hitler: it was not Judaic religion or religious expression of Jews exiled within other states that caused resentment among the non-Jewish state members, it was

    “The common people have not, and indeed 不能 have, any historic comprehension. They do not know that the sins of the Middle Ages are now being visited on the nations of Europe. We are what the 少数民族居住区 made us. We have attained pre-eminence in finance, because mediaeval conditions drove us to it. The same process is now being repeated. We are again being 强迫 into finance, now it is the stock exchange, by being kept out of other branches of economic activity. Being on the stock exchange, we are consequently exposed afresh to contempt. At the same time we continue to produce an abundance of mediocre intellects who find no outlet, and this endangers our social position as much as does our increasing wealth. Educated Jews without means are now rapidly becoming Socialists. Hence we are certain to suffer very severely in the struggle between classes, because we stand in the most exposed position in the camps of both Socialists and capitalists. . . .
    When we sink, we become a revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of all revolutionary parties; and at the same time, when we rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse.”

    Herzl realized that, failing to make Germany the “new Jerusalem” where Jews were in charge, zionism would make Palestine as successful as Germans had made Germany., on the German model.

    Based on Rabbi Bar-Hayim’s and your explanations, Herzl’s analysis was incorrect (as well as arrogant): 少数民族居住区 did not make Jews, Judaism demanded the Ghetto. According to Bar-Hayim, with which you agree, Dissident, a Jew who rejects the Ghetto in favor of assimilation is not truly Jewish.

    Jews need a pope.

  371. @Rational

    ith the Christian bible saying that we must worship the Judaists as God’s chosen people..

    Actually Sr. the bible says the contrary, all you have to do is to read it. Here it is!

    14For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea that are in Christ Jesus. You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews, 15who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and hostile to all men,

    So they are hostile to ALL men! According to ! thess.14-15

    Here Iesous says:

    43Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

    SO, churchianity does worship them; Once you leave churchianity, and start educating your self,

    all changes.

    Once churchianity is out the door, and we start to inquire and question,

    32Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

  372. @A123

    Observing all the ugly figures in that building, so called gargoyles, on ponders upon the meaning. Besides, so many people in churchianity put their trust in ‘buildings’, instead in He whom they say believe.

    Churchianity loves what the bible calls ‘judeans’ otherwise known to churchianity as Jews. For all you who say that are Christians, Please put aside all the ignorance, and inform yourselves about who is your enemy. I believe Voltaire was the one who said:

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize” is often attributed to Voltaire.

    WHO? ‘anti-Semite, you!”

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