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从 7 月 XNUMX 日起在 “纽约时报” 新闻部分,一篇引起轰动的文章:

阿尔伯克基4名男子被杀让穆斯林社区感到恐惧

随着当局呼吁公众帮助调查,许多穆斯林居民正在经历“可控的恐慌”。

尼拉姆·博拉和维马尔·帕特尔
八月7,2022

Muhammad Imtiaz Hussain 不敢走出他在阿尔伯克基的家中给他的植物浇水。 或者从他的车里取书。 或者甚至冒险到他的阳台上。

“我的孩子不让我走出公寓,”41 岁的侯赛因先生说,他 27 岁的弟弟穆罕默德·阿夫扎尔·侯赛因 (Muhammad Afzaal Hussain) 一周前周一在几个街区外被枪杀。 他是最近在该市被杀的四名穆斯林男子之一——过去两周内是三名——当局认为这些死亡是相互关联的,并且是针对穆斯林社区的。

最新的受害者是一名来自南亚的 20 多岁的穆斯林男子,他的名字尚未被警方公布,他于周五午夜前被杀。 另一名 41 岁的男子 Aftab Hussein 于 26 月 2021 日被枪杀。当局表示,这三人的遇害可能与 62 年 XNUMX 月在他和他兄弟经营的企业之外杀害 XNUMX 岁的 Mohammad Ahmadi 有关。

随着阿尔伯克基警察局、联邦调查局和州警察局呼吁公众帮助寻找凶手——周日当局描述了一辆感兴趣的车辆,一辆深色四门大众轿车——袭击事件让穆斯林陷入了困境。恐怖的状态。

一名参加新墨西哥伊斯兰中心的成员说,他可能永远不会回来,理由是害怕成为“诱饵”。

其他成员已暂时离开该州,与该国其他地区的家人一起等待调查。 一名从伊拉克移民的男子说,当他在 1980 年代第一次来到这个国家时,他感到更安全。 另一位成员塞勒姆·安萨里(Salem Ansari)说,一些去清真寺和上夜班的人已经辞掉了工作。

“这种情况变得越来越糟,”安萨里先生说。

……“现在,我看着窗外想,‘哦,这就是我哥哥被杀的地方。 我们应该搬家吗?'”他说。

……总的来说,美国的反穆斯林仇恨犯罪呈下降趋势。 加州州立大学圣贝纳迪诺分校刑事司法教授、该校仇恨与极端主义研究中心主任布莱恩·莱文表示,2020 年针对穆斯林的仇恨犯罪数量低于自 9 年以来的任何一年/11,尽管他补充说,由于大流行的限制,这些数字可能会出现偏差。

但他表示,仇恨犯罪仍然令人担忧:该中心报告称,仇恨犯罪在 20 年上升了 2021% 以上,在 4.7 年上半年又上升了 2022%。 此外,根据莱文教授的研究,“潜在的反穆斯林态度”在国家困难时期普遍存在并重新出现。

当局表示,在确定犯罪动机之前,他们不会使用“仇恨”一词来标记犯罪。

就在去年,伊斯兰中心面临一起企图纵火案 女子 警方称,他们在清真寺的操场上放了三场火,在清真寺的主要入口放了一场火。 没有人受伤,该女子被捕并被控纵火。 此案正在审理中。

阿塞德先生说,伊斯兰中心已指示其近 2,500 名成员尽可能多地待在家里,外出时使用“伙伴系统”,并避免“与任何人交往或激怒”任何人。

他补充说,他仍然感到受到其他社区的支持,但这次他也感到“绝望和绝望”。

...... “我 5 岁的孩子一直在问,'嘿,我叔叔在哪里?'”他说。 “她会看到我哭,然后说,‘你是个爱哭鬼吗? 你怎么哭了?' 但我们不能告诉她。 还没有。”

Neelam Bohra 是国家服务台 2022-2023 年残疾报告研究员。 @neelambohratx

并从 “纽约时报” 今日新闻栏目:

阿尔伯克基警方拘留了杀害穆斯林男子的嫌疑人

警方表示,自 XNUMX 月以来四名穆斯林男子的枪击事件可能与此有关,这在许多移民和难民感到宾至如归的地方引发了担忧。

所以,他们终于抓住了杀害穆斯林的 MAGA 乡巴佬恐怖分子的多样性!

作者:Simon Romero、Neelam Bohra、Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs 和 Ava Sasani
八月9,2022
美国东部时间下午7:52更新

阿尔伯克基——几天来,有人可能在阿尔伯克基杀害穆斯林男子的消息在该市的穆斯林居民中蔓延开来,其中一些人非常害怕成为下一个目标,以至于他们逃离了城镇或躲在家里。

周二,警方表示,他们逮捕了一名本身就是穆斯林的男子,该男子可能针对至少两名受害者,因为他对自己的女儿嫁给了来自伊斯兰教其他主要分支的男子感到愤怒。

嗯? 那是从哪里来的?

警方表示,这名 51 岁的男子 Muhammad Syed 将在其中两起谋杀案中受到指控,他是另外两起死亡事件的嫌疑人。

新墨西哥伊斯兰中心的主席艾哈迈德·阿塞德(Ahmad Assed)说,当局告诉他,嫌疑人是逊尼派穆斯林,可能因为他对自己的行为感到愤怒而将受害者作为目标。女儿嫁给了什叶派穆斯林。

然后这篇文章四位记者试图重新利用他们的笔记从他们打算获得普利策奖的曝光“仇恨的黑暗之心即使在阿尔伯克基也缠着穆斯林”。

……有关可能与宗派争端有关的人际冲突的报道引发了人们对来自冲突缠身国家的许多移民希望摆脱的那种暴力的恐惧。

......多年来,阿尔伯克基当局一直试图将这座城市塑造成移民的避风港。 自从美军撤出阿富汗以来,过去一年,数百名来自阿富汗的难民在该市定居。

最近的杀戮发生在阿尔伯克基被令人痛心的枪支暴力事件所颠覆之际,该市今年的谋杀案数量将超过有记录以来的任何其他城市。 …

出生在密歇根州迪尔伯恩的阿塞德先生说,即使在 11 月 XNUMX 日袭击事件之后仇外心理日益增加,阿尔伯克基似乎仍然尊重穆斯林社区,无论其信仰和国籍如何。

现在这座城市的许多穆斯林都觉得自己是目标,恐惧甚至驱使一些人计划离开新墨西哥州。

事实上,杀戮事件震撼了这座日益多元化的城市,主要来自墨西哥和其他拉丁美洲国家的移民是人口增长的主要来源,也是这座城市历史不可或缺的一部分。 19 世纪后期,来自中东的移民,包括来自黎巴嫩和叙利亚的穆斯林和基督徒,在阿尔伯克基和新墨西哥州的其他地区投资。

......在特朗普政府期间,当人们对针对穆斯林的偏见感到担忧时,官员们通过了一项法案,确认阿尔伯克基作为“移民友好”城市的地位。 它限制联邦移民代理进入城市运营的设施和城市雇员收集移民身份信息。

在过去的一年里,至少有 300 名阿富汗难民抵达阿尔伯克基,为今天至少有八个不同的穆斯林礼拜场所所反映的不断壮大的社区提供了支持。 阿尔伯克基通过说阿拉伯语、达里语、波斯语、乌尔都语和普什图语的翻译人员加强了外展工作——官员们最近几天在分享有关杀戮的信息时优先考虑这些语言。

Sumayyah Waheed 说,尽管美国的穆斯林在 11 月 XNUMX 日之后和唐纳德·J·特朗普的总统竞选期间面临暴力和歧视,但阿尔伯克基袭击事件的明显连续性质——以及谁是责任人的顽固谜团——是独特的令人不安,民权组织穆斯林倡导者的高级政策顾问。

相比之下,有 每日邮报 信息量更大的标题:

图片:阿富汗男子因涉嫌在阿尔伯克基谋杀四名穆斯林同胞而被捕,“在他的逊尼派女儿嫁给了什叶派男子后愤怒地”:51岁的穆罕默德赛义德此前曾面临家庭暴力指控

Here’s the President’s tweet two days ago:

Just like we have a National Transportation Safety Board to review airliner crashes (which we don’t have many of anymore), we should have a National Immigration Safety Board to review each immigrant who commits murder and why he was let into the country.

This story reminds me of a local story that for about 8 hours looked like it was going to be the biggest news in the country that week, but then vanished.

第一份报告是两名犹太男子在山谷村的犹太教堂中被枪杀。

犹太教堂内的反犹大规模枪击事件!

但后来……什么都没有。 最终,事实在后台出现了。

这两个人并没有被枪杀 in 犹太教堂,但在犹太教堂的停车场。

凌晨 4 点。

两人的膝盖中弹。

在近距离。

And neither victim could remember who shot them or why they were in the parking garage at 4 AM.

 
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  1. Prince Bandar “Bush” bin Sultan said to Sir Richard “MI6” Dearlove:

    ‘God help the Shia’. More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them.

    • 回复: @Nachum
    @smetana

    Yeah, as soon as I saw it, I thought, "An angry white guy would shoot up a mosque or something. Picking them off one by one? This is an honor killing."

  2. “The two men weren’t exactly shot in the synagogue, but in the synagogue’s parking garage.

    凌晨 4 点。

    两人的膝盖中弹。

    在近距离。

    And neither could remember who shot them.”

    Kvetches get steches.

  3. The media did the same trick with some Muslim who murdered his daughters over having non-Muslim boyfriends. The headlines blare “Texas man” as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.

    • 同意: Ron Mexico
    • 回复: @slumber_j
    @匿名鼠标人


    The headlines blare “Texas man” as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.
     
    Yeah, you get a lot of this.

    来自 Steve Sailer 的原始帖子:

    然后这篇文章四位记者试图重新利用他们的笔记从他们打算获得普利策奖的曝光“仇恨的黑暗之心即使在阿尔伯克基也缠着穆斯林”。
     
    Judging from the NYT's (still) Pulitzer-winning work on Russian Collusion, I don't see the new developments in this case as much of an obstacle to victory.
  4. OT:他们已经在起诉堕胎的妇女: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    当然,他们知道这在政治上是多么不受欢迎。 他们不在乎。 他们愿意让共和党陷入困境,以追求他们的美德信号。 我们需要与这些人做出明确、明确的决裂,否则我们将再拥有 4 年的乔·拜登。

    • 回复: @Ed
    @阿农

    如果共和党或保守派输了,因为人们想在进行鲁莽、随意的性行为后堕胎,那就这样吧。 无论如何,这个国家已经走得太远了。

    回复:@ Anonymous,@ Anon

    , @Adamant
    @阿农

    NOPE。

    她没有因堕胎而受到指控,在 20 月份发生这种情况时,堕胎已经是非法的,她被指控燃烧尸体。 她的母亲被指控进行非法堕胎。 内布拉斯加州有 24 周的限制。 她已经 XNUMX 周了。

    但事实是令人讨厌的事情。 最好只是撒谎。

    回复:@Anon

    , @James B. Shearer
    @阿农

    “......他们已经在起诉堕胎的妇女:

    这项起诉是在 Dobbs 决定之前发起的,因为所涉及的堕胎是在 28 周,并且不受 Roe v. Wade 的保护。

    “当然,他们知道这在政治上是多么不受欢迎……”

    在 28 周时禁止危险的人工流产实际上在政治上并不受欢迎。

  5. LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    • 回复: @Franz
    @反诺斯替教派


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    同意。

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Hannah Katz
    @反诺斯替教派

    Now the left expects us to protect the Moslems from... themselves.

  6. If deadly immigrant blood feuds were a stock, I’d be backing up the truck right now. In any case it’s a small price to pay for authentic Pashtun cuisine.

    • 哈哈: kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    • 回复: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    B

    Any recommendations for Pashtun eateries in Albuquerque?

    Next time I swing by I'll be sure to give a Yelp review.

  7. This whole situation in Albuquerque is easily fixed:

    ctrl-r “Muslim” with “Shiite Moslem”.
    ctrl-r “Hate-filled Americans” with “Sunni Moslems”.
    ctrl-r “Radical Imam” with “New Mexico man”.

    Fixing the article, that is. Fixing the USA, no, we’re fucked …

    I warned them about conflict importation when they were importing roughly equal numbers of Iranians and Iraqis into Sweden. It always seems like a great idea on paper …

  8. the police said they had arrested a man who was himself Muslim and who may have targeted at least two of the victims because he was angry that his daughter had married a man from the other major branch of Islam.

    嗯? 那是从哪里来的?

    From the last fourteen centuries of Muslim history. It’s just too bad that the self-appointed multiculturalists in charge of everything didn’t know enough about multiple cultures to see that one coming! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845

    Well, on the bright side, just because the all these Muslims are in an alien land doesn’t mean they must forego all their colorful traditions, such as homicidal sectarian strife. Like when I’m abroad, I appreciate the occasional Marlboro or Big Mac.

    But is there any bright side of Muslim immigration for those us of already in the US? Well, they seem to have better aim than our native blacks: 4 targets, 0 bystanders. Hey, maybe that trillion dollars of US military training of Afghans wasn’t a total waste after all!

    • 同意: The Anti-Gnostic
    • 谢谢: Achmed E. Newman
    • 回复: @Barbarossa
    @几乎密苏里州

    好的!

    My wife really enjoyed this comment when I read it to her. She was laughing uncontrollably!

    'Cause you know what they say, "The family that reads Unz comments together stays together."

    或类似的东西...

  9. 一名从伊拉克移民的男子说,当他在 1980 年代第一次来到这个国家时,他感到更安全。

    我想这给了我们一个时间表,让我们知道一旦新人出现,美好的事情会持续多久。

    • 同意: duncsbaby
    • 回复: @Clyde
    @bomag


    从过去十四个世纪的穆斯林历史开始。 太糟糕了,自封的负责一切的多元文化主义者对多种文化的了解还不够,以至于无法看到那种文化的到来! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845
     
    I doubt that when GW Bush invaded Iraq, that GW knew the diff between Shiite vs Sunni, the wars that have only been going on for 14 centuries. I know I didn't. So basically we invaded Iraq for nothing. Our end result was turning a Sunni ruled nation into Shiite ruled, aligned with Shiite Iran.

    让你和他战斗适用于安拉的这些小丑。 当他们互相争斗时,他们并不是在与异教徒作战。

    回复:@Nachum

  10. As soon as I saw the perp was driving a sedan, I knew it was Muslim on Muslim crime. No self-respecting white male hater of foreigners would drive anything other than a truck (or maybe a Jeep) in that part of the country.

    • 回复: @Rob McX
    @意外后果

    Also, don't forget the Confederate flag.

    , @J1234
    @意外后果

    I thought the same thing when I read that it was a VW Jetta with tinted windows that the cops wanted to locate. If I had to guess, I'd say that the ethnicity that whites who drive tinted window Jettas hate most is their own. Like a lot of other things, cars can figure into the profile and personality type of people. How could the “纽约时报” be so clueless about this?

    回复:@Almost Missouri

  11. During the Trump administration, when concerns grew over bigotry directed against Muslims

    I guess “concerns grew” in the minds of people who take seriously the lies pumped out by this dreadful propaganda rag. Is there any statistical evidence to support such fears? Or were such fears irrational?

    Although Muslims in the United States faced violence and discrimination after Sept. 11 期间 Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign

    They’re such lairs. And they lie, non-stop, in the furtherance of anti-white bigotry, discrimination, and to justify unequal treatment of white people under the law.

    • 同意: West reanimator
    • 谢谢: HammerJack
  12. ……有关可能与宗派争端有关的人际冲突的报道引发了人们对来自冲突缠身国家的许多移民希望摆脱的那种暴力的恐惧。

    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don’t hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    • 回复: @HammerJack
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)


    现在这座城市的许多穆斯林都觉得自己是目标,恐惧甚至驱使一些人计划离开新墨西哥州。
     
    Reached for comment, one of the migrants said, "Albuquerque no good! Too many migrants!"

    At least, I 认为 he said Albuquerque.
    Might have been America.
    , @Nachum
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    90 年代初南斯拉夫战争爆发时,皇后区的塞尔维亚和克罗地亚社区进行了一场足球比赛。

    我认为皇后区的印度人和巴基斯坦人打板球,但后来他们也在次大陆这样做。

    《Z 世界大战》一书中有一句台词,类似于“我们都预计核交换将在印度和巴基斯坦之间进行,所以当它最终在巴基斯坦和伊朗之间进行时,我们感到很意外。”

    我记得当一些外籍以色列人在洛杉矶骚扰一家巴勒斯坦沙拉三明治店老板时,犹太防卫联盟(当时基本上已沦为洛杉矶分会)开始为……阿拉伯人辩护。 公平地说,他们表达的逻辑的一部分是,“嘿,我们希望巴勒斯坦人在南加州感到舒适。” 这仍然是愚蠢的,但“愚蠢”和“犹太人”在这里齐头并进。

    回复:@Anonymous

    , @Mark G.
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)


    Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don’t hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.
     
    My Congressional representative here in Indiana, Victoria Spartz, was born in the Ukraine and is an ardent advocate of dragging the U.S. into the Russia-Ukraine conflict on the side of the Ukrainians. Her support was welcomed by the Ukrainian government, the Biden administration, and the neocons here in the U.S. That is, until she said the Ukrainian government needs to be less corrupt whereupon they accused her of being "pro-Russian".

    Americans have traditionally believed in individual rights more than the people in most countries on the planet and in a government that protects those individual rights rather than a government that is designed to benefit certain ethnic or religious groups. If you come here, you have to pick whether you are going to bring your ancient ethnic or religious grudges with you or are going to see others here as your fellow Americans who should be treated fairly. If you pick the second, you will eventually notice the pointless unending feuds, corruption and authoritarianism in most countries on this planet, including your old homeland. My Congressional representative has become at least somewhat Americanized so is unable to engage in uncritical support of the country she was born in.
  13. @The Anti-Gnostic
    LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    Replies: @Franz, @Hannah Katz

    LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    同意。

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians…

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become “Americans”. Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    @弗朗兹


    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them.
     
    Weren’t East Side New Yorkers mostly Irish themselves?

    回复:@Nachum

    , @Hibernian
    @弗朗兹


    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers.
     
    Irish Protestant / Irish Catholic conflict in NYC was a brief mid 19th century phenomenon which ended when the Catholics far outnumbered the Protestants. Bill the Butcher makes a good story but he's a very small part of the story of NYC.

    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.
     
    My Dad was 50% Polish, 25 % French Canadian, and 25% Irish. He was born in 1930 and his oldest sister was born in 1920. The pot's been melting for quite a long time.
    , @Chris Mallory
    @弗朗兹


    Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.
     
    That you use "Irish" and "Polish" instead of "American" means that the "melting pot" is nothing but a myth. No, they are not Americans and never will be.

    回复:@Rocko

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @弗朗兹


    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy.
     
    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0431/5702/9021/products/b542bdb132cdddb4e6def8c457f9a892_1024x1024.jpg?v=1614829207

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ba/b4/f8/bab4f802c6e1456c40feab79082bb647--irish-pride-jeanne.jpg

  14. 这个故事让我想起了当地警方的一个吸墨纸物品,在大约 8 个小时的时间里,它看起来像是该周该国最大的故事,但随后就消失了。

    another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.

    [更多]

    • 回复: @Nachum
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he's Woke: "I wish it had been a white guy."

    If he's not: "Damn, there goes that commendation."

    回复:@Rob McX,@ AnotherDad

    , @Almost Missouri
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    The tell was "beheaded". Muslims love that sh*t. Koran's full of it. Too bloody for squeamish Christians, though.

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case. Recall how the Muslim-on-gay Pulse nightclub shooting was repurposed from yet another run-of-the-mill Muslim mass murder into the Terror of Violent Homophobia. Which itself was just a rerun of the routine drug-deal-gone-wrong killing of Matthew Shepherd into the Martyrdom of Saint Matthew basis for a thousand hate crime laws. C'mon ya lazy Irish scribblers, your American cousins have a well-worn playbook for these kinds of situations!

    回复:@Rob McX

    , @Anon
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    The ruling class is always disappointed when they can't blame the white man.

  15. @Almost Missouri


    the police said they had arrested a man who was himself Muslim and who may have targeted at least two of the victims because he was angry that his daughter had married a man from the other major branch of Islam.
     
    嗯? 那是从哪里来的?
     
    From the last fourteen centuries of Muslim history. It's just too bad that the self-appointed multiculturalists in charge of everything didn't know enough about multiple cultures to see that one coming! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845

    Well, on the bright side, just because the all these Muslims are in an alien land doesn't mean they must forego all their colorful traditions, such as homicidal sectarian strife. Like when I'm abroad, I appreciate the occasional Marlboro or Big Mac.

    But is there any bright side of Muslim immigration for those us of already in the US? Well, they seem to have better aim than our native blacks: 4 targets, 0 bystanders. Hey, maybe that trillion dollars of US military training of Afghans wasn't a total waste after all!

    回复:@Barbarossa

    好的!

    My wife really enjoyed this comment when I read it to her. She was laughing uncontrollably!

    ‘Cause you know what they say, “The family that reads Unz comments together stays together.”

    或类似的东西…

    • 谢谢: Almost Missouri
  16. Your link to the second article is wrong. It should be 阿尔伯克基警方拘留了杀害穆斯林男子的嫌疑人.

    • 回复: @Steve Sailer
    @jb

    谢谢。

  17. Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,……………..

    Levin is not only the director of the “Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism”, he is it’s only member according to its’ website. The “Our People” tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a “Center for Something”.

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    • 哈哈: John Milton's Ghost
    • 回复: @Rob McX
    @先生。 安农


    Can one guy be a “Center for Something”.
     
    One guy can certainly be a purveyor of hate and extremism.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @先生。 安农

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a "Center" means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that "Center" with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages...

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The "C" in "CSPI" does stand for "Center". While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Recently Based

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @先生。 安农

    What are the odds...
    https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/news/PublishingImages/racism-covid/Brian-Levin.jpg

    回复:@AnotherDad

  18. As I started the article I am thinking, when will Dearbornistan make its appearance? “Mr. Assed, who was born in Dearborn, Mich.” There it is!

  19. “Albuquerque” sounds like all those other AL- names one sees in Iberia, e.g., Alhambra, Alcante, Algarve. (“Alcatraz” comes from the Arabic for “gannet bird”, given to the island for its plethora of pelicans.)

    The city may thus be a subconscious draw to wandering Araby.

    However, indirect namesake Alburquerque [sic] is a once-Portuguese, now-Spanish town named for white oaks, or 白栎 用拉丁文

    [更多]

    • 回复: @Almost Missouri
    @RegCæsar

    What impresses about Reg's commentary is the way that erudition on languages, biographies, geography and history exists side-by-side with minute recall of the back catalog of 1970s pop fixtures.

    Well, to some extent this characterizes many commenters here, but with Reg it is nearly an art form. Plus anagrams!

    Reg, were you the hidden hand behind 1980s 间谍 magazine's Monthly Anagram Analyses?

  20. These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are) in government data, congressional hearings and future media reports.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    @clifford布朗


    这些杀戮仍将被列为反穆斯林仇恨犯罪(从技术上讲,它们是)
     
    没有。 从技术上讲,它们不是反穆斯林仇恨犯罪。

    回复:@clifford brown,@Clyde

  21. Is this good? I thought some based maga guy was kicking ass. Now I find its just an intramural dispute!
    They found some white guy named Podgorny on the south side of Chicago with a car full of weapons and ammo.
    I don’t know what was the plan,but the brothers were all like,feets do yo stuff!😮

  22. The Biden tweet is basically a blood libel against the White community.

  23. Killing Muslims another job Americans won’t do**.

    (**in America)

  24. @clifford brown
    These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are) in government data, congressional hearings and future media reports.

    回复:@Anonymous

    这些杀戮仍将被列为反穆斯林仇恨犯罪(从技术上讲,它们是)

    没有。 从技术上讲,它们不是反穆斯林仇恨犯罪。

    • 回复: @clifford brown
    @匿名的

    It is sectarian violence where the victims were targeted for their religious Muslim Shiite faith.

    , @Clyde
    @匿名的


    没有。 从技术上讲,它们不是反穆斯林仇恨犯罪。
     
    这些是穆斯林内部的仇恨犯罪和争吵,可以追溯到公元 660 年左右,当时穆斯林 A 支持阿里接替已经呱呱叫的穆罕默德。 穆斯林B组支持Abu Bakr


    Shia Islam holds that Ali ibn Abi Talib was the designated successor to the Islamic prophet Muhammad -- Abu Bakr was the Sunni choice. -- For all his efforts, Ali was assassinated 26 January 661. It has been Sunni vs Shiite ever since. Though they will unite to fight the infidel.

    回复:@Muggles

  25. @jb
    Your link to the second article is wrong. It should be 阿尔伯克基警方拘留了杀害穆斯林男子的嫌疑人.

    回复:@Steve Sailer

    谢谢。

  26. ......在特朗普政府期间,当人们对针对穆斯林的偏见感到担忧时,官员们通过了一项法案,确认阿尔伯克基作为“移民友好”城市的地位。 它限制联邦移民代理进入城市运营的设施和城市雇员收集移民身份信息。

    在过去的一年里,至少有 300 名阿富汗难民抵达阿尔伯克基,为今天至少有八个不同的穆斯林礼拜场所所反映的不断壮大的社区提供了支持。 阿尔伯克基通过说阿拉伯语、达里语、波斯语、乌尔都语和普什图语的翻译人员加强了外展工作——官员们最近几天在分享有关杀戮的信息时优先考虑这些语言。

    Although Muslims in the United States faced violence and discrimination after Sept. 11 and during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, the apparent serial nature of the attacks in Albuquerque — and the stubborn mystery of who is responsible — is uniquely disconcerting, said Sumayyah Waheed, senior policy counsel at Muslim Advocates, a civil rights group.

    Boy that is some incredibly sleazy “journalism” even by the NYT standards.

    “Stubborn mystery?”

    This is openly, obviously, undeniably a story not about America or Americans–much less Donald Trump–but about 移民. About immigrants dragging their Old Country quarrels, hostilities and hatreds into America and inflicting them–and associated violence–upon our communities.

    Again separation.

    These pathetic liars love to hate on us flyover country whites–whose country, btw several of them or their parents somehow decided was a heck of a lot better than wherever they came from. This is obnoxious, but have at it.

    But … they get to have to enjoy this wondrous diversity. They deserve to enjoy the wonderfulness of the Afghans they love so much–and their sectarian murders. We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.

    • 回复: @Twinkie
    An


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

  27. @smetana
    Prince Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan said to Sir Richard "MI6" Dearlove:

    'God help the Shia'. More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them.
     
    https://twitter.com/bbcyaldahakim/status/488407164026093568

    回复:@Nachum

    Yeah, as soon as I saw it, I thought, “An angry white guy would shoot up a mosque or something. Picking them off one by one? This is an honor killing.”

  28. @Anonymous
    @clifford布朗


    这些杀戮仍将被列为反穆斯林仇恨犯罪(从技术上讲,它们是)
     
    没有。 从技术上讲,它们不是反穆斯林仇恨犯罪。

    回复:@clifford brown,@Clyde

    It is sectarian violence where the victims were targeted for their religious Muslim Shiite faith.

    • 谢谢: Hibernian
  29. @Franz
    @反诺斯替教派


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    同意。

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them.

    Weren’t East Side New Yorkers mostly Irish themselves?

    • 回复: @Nachum
    @匿名的

    The Lower East Side in the first half of the 1800's was heavily lower-class WASP and German. (The movie Gangs of New York makes a big deal of this.) The Germans eventually moved to a part of the Upper East Side, the rest of which is mostly very upper-class WASP. The Lower East Side became Irish, Jewish, and Italian, and is now heavily Chinese and some Hispanic.

  30. @Unintended Consequence
    As soon as I saw the perp was driving a sedan, I knew it was Muslim on Muslim crime. No self-respecting white male hater of foreigners would drive anything other than a truck (or maybe a Jeep) in that part of the country.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @J1234

    Also, don’t forget the Confederate flag.

  31. @Rob McX

    这个故事让我想起了当地警方的一个吸墨纸物品,在大约 8 个小时的时间里,它看起来像是该周该国最大的故事,但随后就消失了。
     
    another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/j30It817INMUPXIeKTbXclk9k-w=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/WE7AD3LWKSJ3QPLRKTVPXQ5K7A.jpg

    Replies: @Nachum, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he’s Woke: “I wish it had been a white guy.”

    If he’s not: “Damn, there goes that commendation.”

    • 回复: @Rob McX
    @Nachum

    The gay lobby often ends up being disappointed. I remember, around 20 or so years ago, someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland. So gay marriage had an ancient pedigree! It was probably a regular occurrence before the Catholic Church began to exercise its repressive tyranny.

    Then someone spoiled it all by suggesting Gerald was not the most reliable of sources. Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    回复:@RegCæsar

    , @AnotherDad
    @Nachum


    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.
     
    C'mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Nachum

  32. @Mr. Anon

    Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,.................
     
    Levin is not only the director of the "Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism", he is it's only member according to its' website. The "Our People" tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a "Center for Something".

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Almost Missouri, @Veteran Aryan

    Can one guy be a “Center for Something”.

    One guy can certainly be a purveyor of hate and extremism.

  33. @Rob McX

    ……有关可能与宗派争端有关的人际冲突的报道引发了人们对来自冲突缠身国家的许多移民希望摆脱的那种暴力的恐惧。
     
    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don't hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Nachum, @Mark G.

    现在这座城市的许多穆斯林都觉得自己是目标,恐惧甚至驱使一些人计划离开新墨西哥州。

    Reached for comment, one of the migrants said, “Albuquerque no good! Too many migrants!”

    At least, I 认为 he said Albuquerque.
    Might have been America.

    • 同意: bomag
  34. @Rob McX

    ……有关可能与宗派争端有关的人际冲突的报道引发了人们对来自冲突缠身国家的许多移民希望摆脱的那种暴力的恐惧。
     
    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don't hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Nachum, @Mark G.

    When the Yugoslavian wars broke out in the early 90’s, the Serbian and Croatian communities in Queens had a soccer game against each other.

    我认为皇后区的印度人和巴基斯坦人打板球,但后来他们也在次大陆这样做。

    There’s a line in the book World War Z that goes something like, “We all expected the nuclear exchange to be between India and Pakistan, so it took us by surprise when it ended up being between Pakistan and Iran.”

    我记得当一些外籍以色列人在洛杉矶骚扰一家巴勒斯坦沙拉三明治店老板时,犹太防卫联盟(当时基本上已沦为洛杉矶分会)为……阿拉伯人辩护。 公平地说,他们表达的逻辑的一部分是,“嘿,我们希望巴勒斯坦人在南加州感到舒适。” 这仍然是愚蠢的,但“愚蠢”和“犹太人”在这里齐头并进。

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    @Nachum


    我记得当一些外籍以色列人在洛杉矶骚扰一家巴勒斯坦沙拉三明治店老板时,犹太防卫联盟(当时基本上已沦为洛杉矶分会)为……阿拉伯人辩护。 公平地说,他们表达的逻辑的一部分是,“嘿,我们希望巴勒斯坦人在南加州感到舒适。” 这仍然是愚蠢的,但“愚蠢”和“犹太人”在这里齐头并进。
     
    这一点都不傻。 大交易是用一些美国给穆斯林来换取巴勒斯坦。 犹太至上主义者得到了两分,因为穆斯林移民美国削弱了其欧洲基督教核心的力量。

    回复:@Nachum

  35. authorities told him that the suspect was a Sunni Muslim, and may have targeted the victims because he was angry over his daughter marrying a Shiite Muslim.

    Bro, instead of shooting other people, control your daughter.

  36. @AnotherDad

    ......在特朗普政府期间,当人们对针对穆斯林的偏见感到担忧时,官员们通过了一项法案,确认阿尔伯克基作为“移民友好”城市的地位。 它限制联邦移民代理进入城市运营的设施和城市雇员收集移民身份信息。

    在过去的一年里,至少有 300 名阿富汗难民抵达阿尔伯克基,为今天至少有八个不同的穆斯林礼拜场所所反映的不断壮大的社区提供了支持。 阿尔伯克基通过说阿拉伯语、达里语、波斯语、乌尔都语和普什图语的翻译人员加强了外展工作——官员们最近几天在分享有关杀戮的信息时优先考虑这些语言。

    Although Muslims in the United States faced violence and discrimination after Sept. 11 and during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, the apparent serial nature of the attacks in Albuquerque — and the stubborn mystery of who is responsible — is uniquely disconcerting, said Sumayyah Waheed, senior policy counsel at Muslim Advocates, a civil rights group.
     
    Boy that is some incredibly sleazy "journalism" even by the NYT standards.

    "Stubborn mystery?"

    This is openly, obviously, undeniably a story not about America or Americans--much less Donald Trump--but about 移民. About immigrants dragging their Old Country quarrels, hostilities and hatreds into America and inflicting them--and associated violence--upon our communities.


    Again separation.

    These pathetic liars love to hate on us flyover country whites--whose country, btw several of them or their parents somehow decided was a heck of a lot better than wherever they came from. This is obnoxious, but have at it.

    But ... they get to have to enjoy this wondrous diversity. They deserve to enjoy the wonderfulness of the Afghans they love so much--and their sectarian murders. We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.

    回复:@Twinkie

    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.

    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,” all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*

    *Settle down, everybody, I’m being sarcastic.

    • 回复: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    I think you know that I know you're one of the people here who most argues in good faith, so don't take this personally.....

    The vast majority of Americans never agreed to this madness-level scheme of mass immigration/population/wage replacement. We are governed by a hostile, alien, essentially foreign elite which hates the native population and wants to destroy it. The USA is effectively an impotent satrap of the international invisible Jewish empire.

    Nobody except Jewish mind-slaves "asked for it good and hard." Come out drinking with me some night and I'll show you what actual Americans really think.

    , @bomag
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”...
     
    Yes, but the bulk of the people advocating such are plenty insulated from the consequences.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie


    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,” all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.
     
    And now it's time for a choosing.
    , @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”
     
    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of "invite the world", they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by "invade", I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren't even discussed.

    回复:@anon,@Twinkie

  37. First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we’ve lost … Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?

    • 回复: @Redneck farmer
    An

    You might not want to visit Des Moines.....

    回复:@AnotherDad

    , @bomag
    An

    同意。

    I've touted New Mexico as a template of the future: half Hispanic and relatively poor; but almost no net immigration; with the wealthy boutique centers of Taos and Sante Fe.

    Evidence seemed to be that immigrants eventually realize that the golden goose can only take so much squeezing. Disturbing to contemplate the plane just getting flown into the ground.

    回复:@Truth

    , @Twinkie
    An


    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?
     
    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    Replies: @Thomm, @Bill Jones

  38. Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    An


    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.
     
    这对犹太人有好处。

    回复:@Jack D

    , @Bill Jones
    An


    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.
     
    The dumbest thing had already been done by then, hence the ADL.
  39. @Unintended Consequence
    As soon as I saw the perp was driving a sedan, I knew it was Muslim on Muslim crime. No self-respecting white male hater of foreigners would drive anything other than a truck (or maybe a Jeep) in that part of the country.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @J1234

    I thought the same thing when I read that it was a VW Jetta with tinted windows that the cops wanted to locate. If I had to guess, I’d say that the ethnicity that whites who drive tinted window Jettas hate most is their own. Like a lot of other things, cars can figure into the profile and personality type of people. How could the “纽约时报” be so clueless about this?

    • 回复: @Almost Missouri
    @ J1234


    How could the New York Times be so clueless about this?
     
    You forget that willful cluelessness is the the 纽约时报's (and the rest of the Establishment's) stock-in-trade.

    这就是他们所做的。

    It's Who They Are,

    创造一个短语。

  40. @Nachum
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    90 年代初南斯拉夫战争爆发时,皇后区的塞尔维亚和克罗地亚社区进行了一场足球比赛。

    我认为皇后区的印度人和巴基斯坦人打板球,但后来他们也在次大陆这样做。

    《Z 世界大战》一书中有一句台词,类似于“我们都预计核交换将在印度和巴基斯坦之间进行,所以当它最终在巴基斯坦和伊朗之间进行时,我们感到很意外。”

    我记得当一些外籍以色列人在洛杉矶骚扰一家巴勒斯坦沙拉三明治店老板时,犹太防卫联盟(当时基本上已沦为洛杉矶分会)开始为……阿拉伯人辩护。 公平地说,他们表达的逻辑的一部分是,“嘿,我们希望巴勒斯坦人在南加州感到舒适。” 这仍然是愚蠢的,但“愚蠢”和“犹太人”在这里齐头并进。

    回复:@Anonymous

    我记得当一些外籍以色列人在洛杉矶骚扰一家巴勒斯坦沙拉三明治店老板时,犹太防卫联盟(当时基本上已沦为洛杉矶分会)为……阿拉伯人辩护。 公平地说,他们表达的逻辑的一部分是,“嘿,我们希望巴勒斯坦人在南加州感到舒适。” 这仍然是愚蠢的,但“愚蠢”和“犹太人”在这里齐头并进。

    这一点都不傻。 大交易是用一些美国给穆斯林来换取巴勒斯坦。 犹太至上主义者得到了两分,因为穆斯林移民美国削弱了其欧洲基督教核心的力量。

    • 同意: Gordo
    • 回复: @Nachum
    @匿名的

    好吧,我不会那么阴谋,考虑到 JDL,祝福它,是一个边缘组织,但当然,这就是他们所说的字面意思。 这对 * 洛杉矶 * 的犹太人(和其他白人)来说是愚蠢的,因为,用我父母不朽的话来说,从布朗克斯参与了白人飞行,指的是不同的种族群体,“最先搬进来的几个人是很好,有很好的家庭,有工作的人。但后来他们的亲戚开始搬进来……”

    而且我想这对以色列也没有多大好处,因为老实说,并不是每个巴勒斯坦人都会搬到美国。 (希望如此。)隔壁有很多阿拉伯国家会做得更好,如果他们真的想走那条路的话。 事实上,JDL 的以色列分拆公司的政策正是如此。 这两本书的创始人都将他的一本书献给了他的祖国美国,正如他所说,这是一个在傻瓜和无赖手中沦为可怕状态的伟大国家。

  41. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do ... but it's damn close.

    回复:@匿名,@ Bill Jones

    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.

    这对犹太人有好处。

    • 回复: @Jack D
    @匿名的

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel's greatest friend in Congress.

    Everything bad is not the Jews' fault. This one is not even close.

    回复:@Twinkie

  42. @AnotherDad
    First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we've lost ... Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon ... what? Des Moines?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag, @Twinkie

    You might not want to visit Des Moines…..

    • 回复: @AnotherDad
    @乡下人农夫


    You might not want to visit Des Moines…..
     
    Actually, AnotherMom and I rolled through I June, but only a quick Costco stop.

    But point taken. The diversification of Iowa is very sad. You could visit Des Moines in say 1965 and although it would be the blackest place in Iowa it was still a whitetopia. (And, of course, with essentially zero "Hispanics".) But no place can be allowed to just be.

    We're in the 地理 einsatzgruppen phase now where any remaining pocket whitetopias must be found and shot with diversity. I'd bet whichever Jewish guy is running Homeland--think that's the Hispanic one--has some underling with a map of areas that are ripe for "direct from the border!" injections of diversity.

    If you don't have borders ... you don't have anything. We need a separate nation of people who understand that.
  43. @bomag

    一名从伊拉克移民的男子说,当他在 1980 年代第一次来到这个国家时,他感到更安全。
     
    我想这给了我们一个时间表,让我们知道一旦新人出现,美好的事情会持续多久。

    回复:@Clyde

    从过去十四个世纪的穆斯林历史开始。 太糟糕了,自封的负责一切的多元文化主义者对多种文化的了解还不够,以至于无法看到那种文化的到来! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845

    我怀疑当 GW Bush 入侵伊拉克时,GW 知道什叶派与逊尼派之间的区别,这场战争只持续了 14 个世纪。 我知道我没有。 所以基本上我们白白入侵伊拉克。 我们的最终结果是将逊尼派统治的国家转变为什叶派统治的国家,与什叶派伊朗结盟。

    让你和他战斗适用于安拉的这些小丑。 当他们互相争斗时,他们并不是在与异教徒作战。

    • 回复: @Nachum
    @克莱德

    来自电影 American Dreamz,有点模仿布什:

    斯塔顿总统:你知道有两种伊拉克人吗?

    [第一夫人举起三个手指]

    斯塔顿总统:我的意思是,实际上,三个?

    参谋长:你是说逊尼派、什叶派和库尔德人?

    斯塔顿总统:你知道这件事吗?

    回复:@Ralph L

  44. @Anonymous
    @clifford布朗


    这些杀戮仍将被列为反穆斯林仇恨犯罪(从技术上讲,它们是)
     
    没有。 从技术上讲,它们不是反穆斯林仇恨犯罪。

    回复:@clifford brown,@Clyde

    没有。 从技术上讲,它们不是反穆斯林仇恨犯罪。

    这些是穆斯林内部的仇恨犯罪和争吵,可以追溯到公元 660 年左右,当时穆斯林 A 支持阿里接替已经呱呱叫的穆罕默德。 穆斯林B组支持Abu Bakr

    什叶派伊斯兰教认为,阿里·伊本·阿比·塔利卜是伊斯兰先知穆罕默德的指定继任者——阿布·伯克尔是逊尼派的选择。 ——尽管阿里付出了所有努力,但在 26 年 661 月 XNUMX 日被暗杀。从那以后,逊尼派对什叶派一直是这样。 尽管他们将团结起来对抗异教徒。

    • 同意: Hibernian
    • 回复: @Muggles
    @克莱德

    是的,感谢这段真实的穆斯林(a/k/a “和平宗教”)历史。

    这就像在大约 2,000 年前接替圣彼得成为第二任教皇的问题上仍在交战的基督教派系互相残杀。

    穆斯林似乎从来没有问过自己这个问题,为什么这些仍然很重要?

    当然,任何对特定教派教条的质疑在穆斯林世界都是非常致命的。

    一个人必须服从,而不是质疑。

    什叶派穆斯林就像希拉里民主党人。 永远不要忘记他们的损失......

    因此,总结一下我的类比,什叶派民主党人现在掌管华盛顿。 因此,特朗普必须被斩首……

  45. Good old immigrants, doing the work (of hate crimes) that Americans won’t do.

  46. @Anonymous
    @弗朗兹


    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them.
     
    Weren’t East Side New Yorkers mostly Irish themselves?

    回复:@Nachum

    The Lower East Side in the first half of the 1800’s was heavily lower-class WASP and German. (The movie Gangs of New York makes a big deal of this.) The Germans eventually moved to a part of the Upper East Side, the rest of which is mostly very upper-class WASP. The Lower East Side became Irish, Jewish, and Italian, and is now heavily Chinese and some Hispanic.

  47. @Clyde
    @bomag


    从过去十四个世纪的穆斯林历史开始。 太糟糕了,自封的负责一切的多元文化主义者对多种文化的了解还不够,以至于无法看到那种文化的到来! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845
     
    I doubt that when GW Bush invaded Iraq, that GW knew the diff between Shiite vs Sunni, the wars that have only been going on for 14 centuries. I know I didn't. So basically we invaded Iraq for nothing. Our end result was turning a Sunni ruled nation into Shiite ruled, aligned with Shiite Iran.

    让你和他战斗适用于安拉的这些小丑。 当他们互相争斗时,他们并不是在与异教徒作战。

    回复:@Nachum

    来自电影 American Dreamz,有点模仿布什:

    斯塔顿总统:你知道有两种伊拉克人吗?

    [第一夫人举起三个手指]

    斯塔顿总统:我的意思是,实际上,三个?

    Chief of Staff: You mean Sunnis and Shi’ites and Kurds?

    斯塔顿总统:你知道这件事吗?

    • 回复: @Ralph L
    @Nachum

    I suspect W learned about this in the bloody aftermath of Desert Storm and the birth of No-Fly Zones. I certainly did.

    回复:@Prester John

  48. @Anonymous
    @Nachum


    我记得当一些外籍以色列人在洛杉矶骚扰一家巴勒斯坦沙拉三明治店老板时,犹太防卫联盟(当时基本上已沦为洛杉矶分会)为……阿拉伯人辩护。 公平地说,他们表达的逻辑的一部分是,“嘿,我们希望巴勒斯坦人在南加州感到舒适。” 这仍然是愚蠢的,但“愚蠢”和“犹太人”在这里齐头并进。
     
    这一点都不傻。 大交易是用一些美国给穆斯林来换取巴勒斯坦。 犹太至上主义者得到了两分,因为穆斯林移民美国削弱了其欧洲基督教核心的力量。

    回复:@Nachum

    Well, I wouldn’t be that conspiratorial, considering that the JDL, bless it, is something of a fringe group, but of course, that’s literally what they’re saying. It’s foolish for the Jews (and other white people) *of L.A.*, because, in the immortal words of my parents, having engaged in White Flight from the Bronx, referring to a different racial group, “The first few to move in are nice enough, good families, working people. But then their relative start to move in…”

    And I imagine it doesn’t do much good for Israel either, because let’s be honest, not every Palestinian is going to move to the US. (Hopefully.) There are plenty of Arab countries right next door that would do better, if they really wanted to go that way. Indeed, the JDL’s Israeli spinoff has exactly that as their policy. The founder of both dedicated one of his books to his native United States, as he put it a great country reduced to a horrible state in the hands of fools and knaves.

  49. @Twinkie
    An


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    I think you know that I know you’re one of the people here who most argues in good faith, so don’t take this personally…..

    The vast majority of Americans never agreed to this madness-level scheme of mass immigration/population/wage replacement. We are governed by a hostile, alien, essentially foreign elite which hates the native population and wants to destroy it. The USA is effectively an impotent satrap of the international invisible Jewish empire.

    Nobody except Jewish mind-slaves “asked for it good and hard.” Come out drinking with me some night and I’ll show you what actual Americans really think.

  50. As always when this comes up I post the NYPD hate crimes data driven by the enormous amount of resentment and hatred the Hasidic population generates (Steve recently noted how the Amish population is exploding, so is the Hasidic population and their interactions with other groups particularly in crowded NYC aren’t great) there making the ignoring of hate crimes not involving white perps impossible to ignore given that much of it is anti-Jewish (Even if non-Hasidic Jews share much of the same disdain towards Hasidim as gentiles, they aren’t going to let the NYPD ignore it.)

    https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/reports-analysis/hate-crimes.page

    The Twitter feed is also full of diverse perps.

  51. @Rob McX

    这个故事让我想起了当地警方的一个吸墨纸物品,在大约 8 个小时的时间里,它看起来像是该周该国最大的故事,但随后就消失了。
     
    another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/j30It817INMUPXIeKTbXclk9k-w=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/WE7AD3LWKSJ3QPLRKTVPXQ5K7A.jpg

    Replies: @Nachum, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    The tell was “beheaded”. Muslims love that sh*t. Koran’s full of it. Too bloody for squeamish Christians, though.

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case. Recall how the Muslim-on-gay Pulse nightclub shooting was repurposed from yet another run-of-the-mill Muslim mass murder into the Terror of Violent Homophobia. Which itself was just a rerun of the routine drug-deal-gone-wrong killing of Matthew Shepherd into the Martyrdom of Saint Matthew basis for a thousand hate crime laws. C’mon ya lazy Irish scribblers, your American cousins have a well-worn playbook for these kinds of situations!

    • 回复: @Rob McX
    @几乎密苏里州

    I know, the beheading was a giveaway. It's too far away for Mexicans, so it had to be a Muslim.

  52. @Anon
    OT: They're already prosecuting women for getting abortions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. They don't care. They're willing to run the Republican party into the ground in pursuit of their virtue-signaling. We need to make a clear, unequivocal break from these people, or else we're going to have 4 more years of Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Ed, @Adamant, @James B. Shearer

    如果共和党或保守派输了,因为人们想在进行鲁莽、随意的性行为后堕胎,那就这样吧。 无论如何,这个国家已经走得太远了。

    • 同意: Ron Mexico
    • 回复: @Anonymous
    @Ed


    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it.
     
    What approach are you saying is good? Who is right? (Republican anti-abortionists, their Republican critics, or people who want to abort babies conceived after casual sex?)
    , @Anon
    @Ed

    Are you saying the country needs more children conceived by reckless, casual sex? The pro life movement is so low class....

  53. @Franz
    @反诺斯替教派


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    同意。

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers.

    Irish Protestant / Irish Catholic conflict in NYC was a brief mid 19th century phenomenon which ended when the Catholics far outnumbered the Protestants. Bill the Butcher makes a good story but he’s a very small part of the story of NYC.

    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    My Dad was 50% Polish, 25 % French Canadian, and 25% Irish. He was born in 1930 and his oldest sister was born in 1920. The pot’s been melting for quite a long time.

    • 谢谢: Coemgen
  54. @Mr. Anon

    Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,.................
     
    Levin is not only the director of the "Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism", he is it's only member according to its' website. The "Our People" tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a "Center for Something".

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Almost Missouri, @Veteran Aryan

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a “Center” means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that “Center” with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages…

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The “C” in “CSPI” does stand for “Center”. While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    @几乎密苏里州


    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case.

    the Woke Borg
     
    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    Use better terminology, please.

    回复:@Almost Missouri

    , @Recently Based
    @几乎密苏里州

    非常正确。

    At an Ivy-level university "center" = $10 - 25MM; "institute" = $25 - 100MM; "school" >= $100MM

  55. @The Anti-Gnostic
    LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    Replies: @Franz, @Hannah Katz

    Now the left expects us to protect the Moslems from… themselves.

  56. @Rob McX

    ……有关可能与宗派争端有关的人际冲突的报道引发了人们对来自冲突缠身国家的许多移民希望摆脱的那种暴力的恐惧。
     
    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don't hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Nachum, @Mark G.

    Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don’t hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    My Congressional representative here in Indiana, Victoria Spartz, was born in the Ukraine and is an ardent advocate of dragging the U.S. into the Russia-Ukraine conflict on the side of the Ukrainians. Her support was welcomed by the Ukrainian government, the Biden administration, and the neocons here in the U.S. That is, until she said the Ukrainian government needs to be less corrupt whereupon they accused her of being “pro-Russian”.

    Americans have traditionally believed in individual rights more than the people in most countries on the planet and in a government that protects those individual rights rather than a government that is designed to benefit certain ethnic or religious groups. If you come here, you have to pick whether you are going to bring your ancient ethnic or religious grudges with you or are going to see others here as your fellow Americans who should be treated fairly. If you pick the second, you will eventually notice the pointless unending feuds, corruption and authoritarianism in most countries on this planet, including your old homeland. My Congressional representative has become at least somewhat Americanized so is unable to engage in uncritical support of the country she was born in.

    • 同意: Rob McX
  57. @J1234
    @意外后果

    I thought the same thing when I read that it was a VW Jetta with tinted windows that the cops wanted to locate. If I had to guess, I'd say that the ethnicity that whites who drive tinted window Jettas hate most is their own. Like a lot of other things, cars can figure into the profile and personality type of people. How could the “纽约时报” be so clueless about this?

    回复:@Almost Missouri

    How could the New York Times be so clueless about this?

    You forget that willful cluelessness is the the 纽约时报‘s (and the rest of the Establishment’s) stock-in-trade.

    这就是他们所做的。

    It’s Who They Are,

    创造一个短语。

  58. @Ed
    @阿农

    如果共和党或保守派输了,因为人们想在进行鲁莽、随意的性行为后堕胎,那就这样吧。 无论如何,这个国家已经走得太远了。

    回复:@ Anonymous,@ Anon

    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it.

    What approach are you saying is good? Who is right? (Republican anti-abortionists, their Republican critics, or people who want to abort babies conceived after casual sex?)

  59. @anonymouseperson
    The media did the same trick with some Muslim who murdered his daughters over having non-Muslim boyfriends. The headlines blare "Texas man" as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.

    回复:@slumber_j

    The headlines blare “Texas man” as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.

    Yeah, you get a lot of this.

    来自 Steve Sailer 的原始帖子:

    然后这篇文章四位记者试图重新利用他们的笔记从他们打算获得普利策奖的曝光“仇恨的黑暗之心即使在阿尔伯克基也缠着穆斯林”。

    Judging from the NYT’s (still) Pulitzer-winning work on Russian Collusion, I don’t see the new developments in this case as much of an obstacle to victory.

  60. @Almost Missouri
    @先生。 安农

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a "Center" means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that "Center" with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages...

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The "C" in "CSPI" does stand for "Center". While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Recently Based

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case.

    the Woke Borg

    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    Use better terminology, please.

    • 回复: @Almost Missouri
    @匿名的


    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?
     
    有什么不同?
  61. @Anon
    OT: They're already prosecuting women for getting abortions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. They don't care. They're willing to run the Republican party into the ground in pursuit of their virtue-signaling. We need to make a clear, unequivocal break from these people, or else we're going to have 4 more years of Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Ed, @Adamant, @James B. Shearer

    NOPE。

    She’s not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she’s charged with burning the body. Her mother is charged with performing the illegal abortion. Nebraska has a 20 week limit. She was 24 weeks along.

    但事实是令人讨厌的事情。 最好只是撒谎。

    • 同意: DCThrowback
    • 回复: @Anon
    @亚当

    "She’s not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she’s charged with burning the body."

    区别无差异。

  62. @Twinkie
    An


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”…

    Yes, but the bulk of the people advocating such are plenty insulated from the consequences.

  63. Can we at least do the dead men honour by a slight change in spelling: “Al Buquerque”?

    • 哈哈: Cool Daddy Jimbo
  64. @Reg Cæsar
    "Albuquerque" sounds like all those other AL- names one sees in Iberia, e.g., Alhambra, Alcante, Algarve. ("Alcatraz" comes from the Arabic for "gannet bird", given to the island for its plethora of pelicans.)

    The city may thus be a subconscious draw to wandering Araby.

    However, indirect namesake Alburquerque [sic] is a once-Portuguese, now-Spanish town named for white oaks, or 白栎 用拉丁文

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qrmPFWAwFQY

    回复:@Almost Missouri

    What impresses about Reg’s commentary is the way that erudition on languages, biographies, geography and history exists side-by-side with minute recall of the back catalog of 1970s pop fixtures.

    Well, to some extent this characterizes many commenters here, but with Reg it is nearly an art form. Plus anagrams!

    Reg, were you the hidden hand behind 1980s 间谍 magazine’s Monthly Anagram Analyses?

    • 同意: kaganovitch
  65. @AnotherDad
    First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we've lost ... Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon ... what? Des Moines?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag, @Twinkie

    同意。

    I’ve touted New Mexico as a template of the future: half Hispanic and relatively poor; but almost no net immigration; with the wealthy boutique centers of Taos and Sante Fe.

    Evidence seemed to be that immigrants eventually realize that the golden goose can only take so much squeezing. Disturbing to contemplate the plane just getting flown into the ground.

    • 回复: @Truth
    @bomag

    Neither Taos nor Santa Fe is remotely what one would consider wealthy.

    回复:@bomag

  66. @Ed
    @阿农

    如果共和党或保守派输了,因为人们想在进行鲁莽、随意的性行为后堕胎,那就这样吧。 无论如何,这个国家已经走得太远了。

    回复:@ Anonymous,@ Anon

    Are you saying the country needs more children conceived by reckless, casual sex? The pro life movement is so low class….

  67. @Anon
    OT: They're already prosecuting women for getting abortions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. They don't care. They're willing to run the Republican party into the ground in pursuit of their virtue-signaling. We need to make a clear, unequivocal break from these people, or else we're going to have 4 more years of Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Ed, @Adamant, @James B. Shearer

    “… They’re already prosecuting women for getting abortions:

    这项起诉是在 Dobbs 决定之前发起的,因为所涉及的堕胎是在 28 周,并且不受 Roe v. Wade 的保护。

    “Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. ..”

    Banning dangerous self-induced abortions at 28 weeks isn’t actually politically unpopular.

  68. @Franz
    @反诺斯替教派


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    同意。

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    That you use “Irish” and “Polish” instead of “American” means that the “melting pot” is nothing but a myth. No, they are not Americans and never will be.

    • 回复: @Rocko
    @克里斯·马洛里

    Neither are you. Wouldn't be surprised if your family descended from filthy Scot scum.

  69. @Rob McX

    这个故事让我想起了当地警方的一个吸墨纸物品,在大约 8 个小时的时间里,它看起来像是该周该国最大的故事,但随后就消失了。
     
    another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/j30It817INMUPXIeKTbXclk9k-w=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/WE7AD3LWKSJ3QPLRKTVPXQ5K7A.jpg

    Replies: @Nachum, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    The ruling class is always disappointed when they can’t blame the white man.

  70. @Almost Missouri
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    The tell was "beheaded". Muslims love that sh*t. Koran's full of it. Too bloody for squeamish Christians, though.

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case. Recall how the Muslim-on-gay Pulse nightclub shooting was repurposed from yet another run-of-the-mill Muslim mass murder into the Terror of Violent Homophobia. Which itself was just a rerun of the routine drug-deal-gone-wrong killing of Matthew Shepherd into the Martyrdom of Saint Matthew basis for a thousand hate crime laws. C'mon ya lazy Irish scribblers, your American cousins have a well-worn playbook for these kinds of situations!

    回复:@Rob McX

    I know, the beheading was a giveaway. It’s too far away for Mexicans, so it had to be a Muslim.

  71. @Nachum
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he's Woke: "I wish it had been a white guy."

    If he's not: "Damn, there goes that commendation."

    回复:@Rob McX,@ AnotherDad

    The gay lobby often ends up being disappointed. I remember, around 20 or so years ago, someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland. So gay marriage had an ancient pedigree! It was probably a regular occurrence before the Catholic Church began to exercise its repressive tyranny.

    Then someone spoiled it all by suggesting Gerald was not the most reliable of sources. Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    • 谢谢: Nachum
    • 回复: @Reg Cæsar
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)


    ...someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland.
     
    Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick.

    Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.
     
    Mikhail Baryshnikov sired a Pony. Handed off to a Shepard to raise:


    http://www.sam-shepard.com/stillwater.html


    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/676496715453612033/u34D4cLM_400x400.jpg

  72. @Mr. Anon

    Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,.................
     
    Levin is not only the director of the "Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism", he is it's only member according to its' website. The "Our People" tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a "Center for Something".

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Almost Missouri, @Veteran Aryan

    What are the odds…

    • 哈哈: AnotherDad
    • 回复: @AnotherDad
    @资深雅利安人

    Can someone explain to Brian, that it's not our fault?

    (That's just not how these gene thingys work.)

  73. @Franz
    @反诺斯替教派


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    同意。

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy.

    • 谢谢: Franz
  74. I guess some in the world are to go on bracing for that backlash that rarely – if ever – comes.

  75. Still waiting for the FBI to announce the perps…

    自 2 月 XNUMX 日发布以来,找不到任何关于此的消息。 讨厌骗局?

    nbcnews.com – 02/02/22 -FBI 将 6 名青少年确定为黑人大学炸弹威胁的相关人员

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/six-juveniles-identified-fbi-persons-interests-bomb-threats-historical-rcna14591

    六名“精通技术”的青少年已被联邦调查局认定为对历史上似乎出于种族动机的黑人学院和大学的威胁感兴趣的人。

    周二,也就是黑人历史月的第一天,十几所历史悠久的黑人学院和大学收到了炸弹威胁。

    一名执法官员说,联邦调查局已经在全国范围内确定了六名相关人员,他们都是涉嫌制造威胁的青少年。 这位官员说,他们似乎“精通技术”,使用复杂的方法试图掩盖威胁的来源,这似乎具有种族主义动机……

  76. @Rob McX
    @Nachum

    The gay lobby often ends up being disappointed. I remember, around 20 or so years ago, someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland. So gay marriage had an ancient pedigree! It was probably a regular occurrence before the Catholic Church began to exercise its repressive tyranny.

    Then someone spoiled it all by suggesting Gerald was not the most reliable of sources. Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    回复:@RegCæsar

    …someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland.

    Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick.

    Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    Mikhail Baryshnikov sired a Pony. Handed off to a Shepard to raise:

    http://www.sam-shepard.com/stillwater.html

    [更多]

  77. @Nachum
    @克莱德

    来自电影 American Dreamz,有点模仿布什:

    斯塔顿总统:你知道有两种伊拉克人吗?

    [第一夫人举起三个手指]

    斯塔顿总统:我的意思是,实际上,三个?

    参谋长:你是说逊尼派、什叶派和库尔德人?

    斯塔顿总统:你知道这件事吗?

    回复:@Ralph L

    I suspect W learned about this in the bloody aftermath of Desert Storm and the birth of No-Fly Zones. I certainly did.

    • 回复: @Prester John
    @拉尔夫·L

    Junior is always being misunderestimated.

  78. @Bragadocious
    If deadly immigrant blood feuds were a stock, I'd be backing up the truck right now. In any case it's a small price to pay for authentic Pashtun cuisine.

    回复:@kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Any recommendations for Pashtun eateries in Albuquerque?

    Next time I swing by I’ll be sure to give a Yelp review.

  79. Here’s a new lead for the anti-White bigots at The New York Times.

    “In a feud reminiscent of the Hatfield’s and McCoy’s….etc. etc. etc. ”

    There’s always a way, people!!

  80. @Nachum
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he's Woke: "I wish it had been a white guy."

    If he's not: "Damn, there goes that commendation."

    回复:@Rob McX,@ AnotherDad

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    C’mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    • 哈哈: Nachum
    • 回复: @John Johnson
    An

    They do but it involves a lot of slapping and man purse throwing.

    , @Nachum
    An

    Reminds me of a story: Graham Chapman, of Monty Python, once went through what he called an "extremely gay" phase- flowered shirts, tight pastel pants, etc. He was in a bar once and a big tough Scotsman at the other end was gone on about "jennies." Chapman got more and more annoyed and finally said, "I'm going to tell him off." His friends were, "Oh no, he'll kill you." But Chapman went up to him, planted himself, and said, "Why are you going on about jennies? I'm one."

    The Scot's jaw dropped, and he just stared at Chapman. So Chapman repeated, "That's right, I'm a jenny, I'm a homosexual."

    The Scot stared for a moment more, recovered, and finally said, "Och, that was fookin' brave. Let me buy ye a drink."

  81. @AnotherDad
    @Nachum


    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.
     
    C'mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Nachum

    They do but it involves a lot of slapping and man purse throwing.

    • 哈哈: Nachum
  82. @AnotherDad
    @Nachum


    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.
     
    C'mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Nachum

    Reminds me of a story: Graham Chapman, of Monty Python, once went through what he called an “extremely gay” phase- flowered shirts, tight pastel pants, etc. He was in a bar once and a big tough Scotsman at the other end was gone on about “jennies.” Chapman got more and more annoyed and finally said, “I’m going to tell him off.” His friends were, “Oh no, he’ll kill you.” But Chapman went up to him, planted himself, and said, “Why are you going on about jennies? I’m one.”

    The Scot’s jaw dropped, and he just stared at Chapman. So Chapman repeated, “That’s right, I’m a jenny, I’m a homosexual.”

    The Scot stared for a moment more, recovered, and finally said, “Och, that was fookin’ brave. Let me buy ye a drink.”

  83. @Redneck farmer
    An

    You might not want to visit Des Moines.....

    回复:@AnotherDad

    You might not want to visit Des Moines…..

    Actually, AnotherMom and I rolled through I June, but only a quick Costco stop.

    But point taken. The diversification of Iowa is very sad. You could visit Des Moines in say 1965 and although it would be the blackest place in Iowa it was still a whitetopia. (And, of course, with essentially zero “Hispanics”.) But no place can be allowed to just be.

    我们在 地理 einsatzgruppen phase now where any remaining pocket whitetopias must be found and shot with diversity. I’d bet whichever Jewish guy is running Homeland–think that’s the Hispanic one–has some underling with a map of areas that are ripe for “direct from the border!” injections of diversity.

    If you don’t have borders … you don’t have anything. We need a separate nation of people who understand that.

  84. Knowing who the perp is and where he comes from, I predict that this story will have a VERY brief shelf life.

  85. @Ralph L
    @Nachum

    I suspect W learned about this in the bloody aftermath of Desert Storm and the birth of No-Fly Zones. I certainly did.

    回复:@Prester John

    Junior is always being misunderestimated.

  86. Muslims killing fellow Muslims from a different sect?

    (Just like Christians did a about 800-600 years ago…)

    Who knew? When did this start?

    纽约时报瓦坡, CNN, etc. been informed?

  87. @Veteran Aryan
    @先生。 安农

    What are the odds...
    https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/news/PublishingImages/racism-covid/Brian-Levin.jpg

    回复:@AnotherDad

    Can someone explain to Brian, that it’s not our fault?

    (That’s just not how these gene thingys work.)

  88. @Clyde
    @匿名的


    没有。 从技术上讲,它们不是反穆斯林仇恨犯罪。
     
    这些是穆斯林内部的仇恨犯罪和争吵,可以追溯到公元 660 年左右,当时穆斯林 A 支持阿里接替已经呱呱叫的穆罕默德。 穆斯林B组支持Abu Bakr


    Shia Islam holds that Ali ibn Abi Talib was the designated successor to the Islamic prophet Muhammad -- Abu Bakr was the Sunni choice. -- For all his efforts, Ali was assassinated 26 January 661. It has been Sunni vs Shiite ever since. Though they will unite to fight the infidel.

    回复:@Muggles

    Yes, thanks for this bit of actual Muslim (a/k/a “Religion of Peace”) history.

    这就像在大约 2,000 年前接替圣彼得成为第二任教皇的问题上仍在交战的基督教派系互相残杀。

    穆斯林似乎从来没有问过自己这个问题,为什么这些仍然很重要?

    当然,任何对特定教派教条的质疑在穆斯林世界都是非常致命的。

    一个人必须服从,而不是质疑。

    Shiite Muslims are like Hillary Democrats. Never get over their loss…

    So, to conclude my analogy, the Shia Democrats are now in charge in DC. Therefore, Trump must be beheaded…

  89. @Twinkie
    An


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,” all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    And now it’s time for a choosing.

  90. @bomag
    An

    同意。

    I've touted New Mexico as a template of the future: half Hispanic and relatively poor; but almost no net immigration; with the wealthy boutique centers of Taos and Sante Fe.

    Evidence seemed to be that immigrants eventually realize that the golden goose can only take so much squeezing. Disturbing to contemplate the plane just getting flown into the ground.

    回复:@Truth

    Neither Taos nor Santa Fe is remotely what one would consider wealthy.

    • 回复: @bomag
    @真相

    Relatively wealthy, for the desert Southwest, with no ports or large trading centers.

    回复:@Truth

  91. @Twinkie
    An


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    • 回复: @Almost Missouri
    @真相

    Patriarchal condescension, the Sport of Kings!

    , @Thomm
    @真相

    真相,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge to Ron Unz to either delete my comments and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

    , @Thomm
    @真相

    真相,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge a full month ago to RUnzie Baby to either delete my entire comments archive and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

    Further confirmation about the true purpose of this website.

  92. “These hateful attacks have no place in America.”

    Well whatdya know, sleepy Joe’s right for once.

    • 同意: Rob McX
  93. @Anonymous
    @几乎密苏里州


    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case.

    the Woke Borg
     
    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    Use better terminology, please.

    回复:@Almost Missouri

    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    有什么不同?

  94. @AnotherDad
    First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we've lost ... Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon ... what? Des Moines?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag, @Twinkie

    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?

    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    • 回复: @Thomm
    @Twinkie

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :


    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s
     
    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don't know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :


    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : 'Southeast Bottoms'

    Incorrect : "southeast bottoms" (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    https://youtu.be/MD53hwAN5DY

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Boomthorkell

    , @Bill Jones
    @Twinkie


    It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.
     
    现在 这是 an area crying out for gentrification.
  95. @Twinkie
    An


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”

    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by “invade”, I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren’t even discussed.

    • 回复: @anon
    @几乎密苏里州


    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001
     
    They were “responsible” in the sense that they carried out the acts. They weren’t morally responsible, however. In other words, they weren’t blameworthy. They were acting in self defense and defense of others against Jewish and American aggression in their homelands.
    , @Twinkie
    @几乎密苏里州


    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.
     
    Let's be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks. *I* was one of them!

    And, before 9/11, I was a minimal-interventionist ("non-interventionist" is a bit too absolutist) and one of the reasons I liked GW Bush was that he seemed skpetical (at least during the electioneering) of foreign interventions in the way he critiqued both Clinton (overtly) and his own father (subtly).

    I've been open about it here - 9/11 was highly traumatic for me and I lost my mind. So did many of my fellow Americans and we all cheered for invasions, we knew - deep inside - were not mere punitive raids, invasions, we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    Well, I am sober now, to be mild about it. But I am not going to pretend that I wasn't drunk before and didn't partake in the Sicilian Expedition of our time. And I think that applies to many, perhaps most Americans, judging from opinion polls of the time.

    回复:@Almost Missouri

  96. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    Patriarchal condescension, the Sport of Kings!

  97. @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”
     
    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of "invite the world", they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by "invade", I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren't even discussed.

    回复:@anon,@Twinkie

    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001

    They were “responsible” in the sense that they carried out the acts. They weren’t morally responsible, however. In other words, they weren’t blameworthy. They were acting in self defense and defense of others against Jewish and American aggression in their homelands.

  98. @Anonymous
    An


    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.
     
    这对犹太人有好处。

    回复:@Jack D

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel’s greatest friend in Congress.

    Everything bad is not the Jews’ fault. This one is not even close.

    • 回复: @Twinkie
    @杰克D


    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel’s greatest friend in Congress.
     
    Yeah, but sometimes enemies collude to topple whom they presume to be a greater enemy. Isn't that the whole "Coalition of the Fringes" thesis our host often propounds?

    Everything bad is not the Jews’ fault
     
    Your take, on the other hand, is that nothing is ever the Jews' fault.

    Isn't the truth somewhere in between the two extremes?
  99. @Adamant
    @阿农

    NOPE。

    她没有因堕胎而受到指控,在 20 月份发生这种情况时,堕胎已经是非法的,她被指控燃烧尸体。 她的母亲被指控进行非法堕胎。 内布拉斯加州有 24 周的限制。 她已经 XNUMX 周了。

    但事实是令人讨厌的事情。 最好只是撒谎。

    回复:@Anon

    “She’s not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she’s charged with burning the body.”

    区别无差异。

  100. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    真相,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge to Ron Unz to either delete my comments and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

  101. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    真相,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge a full month ago to RUnzie Baby to either delete my entire comments archive and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

    Further confirmation about the true purpose of this website.

  102. @Twinkie
    An


    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?
     
    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    Replies: @Thomm, @Bill Jones

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :

    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s

    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don’t know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :

    “southeast bottoms”

    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : ‘Southeast Bottoms’

    Incorrect : “southeast bottoms” (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    • 回复: @Almost Missouri
    @汤姆



    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double.
     
    What? I never heard of this. What rule is this? AFAIK single quotation marks are a British affectation, used in more robust American English only to identify a quotation within a quotation.
    , @Boomthorkell
    @汤姆

    I mean, if your only response is to critique his apostrophe use, it must mean the rest of his argument is too powerful for a response.

    回复:@Thomm

  103. @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”
     
    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of "invite the world", they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by "invade", I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren't even discussed.

    回复:@anon,@Twinkie

    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.

    Let’s be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks. *一世* was one of them!

    And, before 9/11, I was a minimal-interventionist (“non-interventionist” is a bit too absolutist) and one of the reasons I liked GW Bush was that he seemed skpetical (at least during the electioneering) of foreign interventions in the way he critiqued both Clinton (overtly) and his own father (subtly).

    I’ve been open about it here – 9/11 was highly traumatic for me and I lost my mind. So did many of my fellow Americans and we all cheered for invasions, we knew – deep inside – were not mere punitive raids, invasions, we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    Well, I am sober now, to be mild about it. But I am not going to pretend that I wasn’t drunk before and didn’t partake in the Sicilian Expedition of our time. And I think that applies to many, perhaps most Americans, judging from opinion polls of the time.

    • 回复: @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    Let’s be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks.
     
    If you say so. I was not in the US at the time, so my knowledge of America at that time was largely second-hand. But, as a practical matter, anyone anywhere's knowledge of anything is almost always largely second-hand (or third- or fourth-hand or worse) anyway, so I don't know that I was at much of a disadvantage.

    Call me spergy, but I did make a systematic survey of the opinion pages of all the major English-language press outlets in the months after 9/11, and I was surprised and a little dismayed at how uniformly they called for restraint, "outreach", and various non-responsive responses, since, as mentioned, I thought it was obvious that part of the solution had to be military.

    I gather that you lived and worked in more 西罗维基 circles than I did, so the ass-kickin' response was likely more pronounced there.


    we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.
     
    The invade-invite symmetry is a new thing. After WWII, the US was not inundated with German, Japanese and Italian immigrants. There were a few, to be sure, but they tended to be literal rocket scientists and the like. There was no "Refugees Welcome!" public sentiment at that time. The weird syllogism of "we bombed these people, so now we have to let them into our country wholesale" simply didn't exist.

    Ditto with the much smaller Korean War. There are today many Korean immigrants, but most Korean immigration came at least a generation after the War, as part of the general increase in immigration rather than with any specific reference to the 1950-1952 conflict.

    Even the Vietnam War did not immediately produce much Vietnamese immigration, though there was arguably some guilt/shame-induced immigration allowed to trickle in over the following decades.

    In fact, I would argue that the peculiar "As thou dost Invade, so also must thou Invite!" notion really dates only from the War on Terror. And even calling it a notion, as if it were publicly discussed and approved gives it too much credit, since it occurred 罗莎 and is still overwhelming unpopular despite epic propagandizing efforts.

    So, no, I don't think there was any history from which to expect inevitable invitations, nor do I think it is actually so inevitable now. Rather there is at most only an implied logic that is never explicitly examined by those promoting it, because they know the implied logic doesn't actually exist.

  104. @Jack D
    @匿名的

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel's greatest friend in Congress.

    Everything bad is not the Jews' fault. This one is not even close.

    回复:@Twinkie

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel’s greatest friend in Congress.

    Yeah, but sometimes enemies collude to topple whom they presume to be a greater enemy. Isn’t that the whole “Coalition of the Fringes” thesis our host often propounds?

    Everything bad is not the Jews’ fault

    Your take, on the other hand, is that nothing is ever the Jews’ fault.

    Isn’t the truth somewhere in between the two extremes?

  105. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do ... but it's damn close.

    回复:@匿名,@ Bill Jones

    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.

    The dumbest thing had already been done by then, hence the ADL.

  106. @Twinkie
    An


    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?
     
    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    Replies: @Thomm, @Bill Jones

    It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    现在 这是 an area crying out for gentrification.

    • 同意: Twinkie
  107. @Truth
    @bomag

    Neither Taos nor Santa Fe is remotely what one would consider wealthy.

    回复:@bomag

    Relatively wealthy, for the desert Southwest, with no ports or large trading centers.

    • 回复: @Truth
    @bomag


    The median household income in Taos is $36,360.
     
    https://bestneighborhood.org/household-income-taos-nm/

    回复:@bomag

  108. @Twinkie
    @几乎密苏里州


    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.
     
    Let's be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks. *I* was one of them!

    And, before 9/11, I was a minimal-interventionist ("non-interventionist" is a bit too absolutist) and one of the reasons I liked GW Bush was that he seemed skpetical (at least during the electioneering) of foreign interventions in the way he critiqued both Clinton (overtly) and his own father (subtly).

    I've been open about it here - 9/11 was highly traumatic for me and I lost my mind. So did many of my fellow Americans and we all cheered for invasions, we knew - deep inside - were not mere punitive raids, invasions, we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    Well, I am sober now, to be mild about it. But I am not going to pretend that I wasn't drunk before and didn't partake in the Sicilian Expedition of our time. And I think that applies to many, perhaps most Americans, judging from opinion polls of the time.

    回复:@Almost Missouri

    Let’s be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks.

    If you say so. I was not in the US at the time, so my knowledge of America at that time was largely second-hand. But, as a practical matter, anyone anywhere’s knowledge of anything is almost always largely second-hand (or third- or fourth-hand or worse) anyway, so I don’t know that I was at much of a disadvantage.

    Call me spergy, but I did make a systematic survey of the opinion pages of all the major English-language press outlets in the months after 9/11, and I was surprised and a little dismayed at how uniformly they called for restraint, “outreach”, and various non-responsive responses, since, as mentioned, I thought it was obvious that part of the solution had to be military.

    I gather that you lived and worked in more 西罗维基 circles than I did, so the ass-kickin’ response was likely more pronounced there.

    we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    The invade-invite symmetry is a new thing. After WWII, the US was not inundated with German, Japanese and Italian immigrants. There were a few, to be sure, but they tended to be literal rocket scientists and the like. There was no “Refugees Welcome!” public sentiment at that time. The weird syllogism of “we bombed these people, so now we have to let them into our country wholesale” simply didn’t exist.

    Ditto with the much smaller Korean War. There are today many Korean immigrants, but most Korean immigration came at least a generation after the War, as part of the general increase in immigration rather than with any specific reference to the 1950-1952 conflict.

    Even the Vietnam War did not immediately produce much Vietnamese immigration, though there was arguably some guilt/shame-induced immigration allowed to trickle in over the following decades.

    In fact, I would argue that the peculiar “As thou dost Invade, so also must thou Invite!” notion really dates only from the War on Terror. And even calling it a notion, as if it were publicly discussed and approved gives it too much credit, since it occurred 罗莎 and is still overwhelming unpopular despite epic propagandizing efforts.

    So, no, I don’t think there was any history from which to expect inevitable invitations, nor do I think it is actually so inevitable now. Rather there is at most only an implied logic that is never explicitly examined by those promoting it, because they know the implied logic doesn’t actually exist.

  109. @Thomm
    @Twinkie

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :


    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s
     
    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don't know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :


    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : 'Southeast Bottoms'

    Incorrect : "southeast bottoms" (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    https://youtu.be/MD53hwAN5DY

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Boomthorkell

    “southeast bottoms”

    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double.

    What? I never heard of this. What rule is this? AFAIK single quotation marks are a British affectation, used in more robust American English only to identify a quotation within a quotation.

    • 同意: bomag
  110. Crazy Afghan dude (and who wouldn’t want to have a bunch of guys move into their town from f&*^ing Afghanistan?) kills some other Muslin dudes because his daughter married some other Muslim dude form the wrong sect.

    Biden’s (social media team’s) reaction on Twitter: “These hateful attacks have no place in America.”

    For once, he and I agree. What would be the easiest way to have fewer of these hateful attacks in America, I wonder?

    • 同意: Rob McX
  111. @Almost Missouri
    @先生。 安农

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a "Center" means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that "Center" with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages...

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The "C" in "CSPI" does stand for "Center". While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Recently Based

    非常正确。

    At an Ivy-level university “center” = \$10 – 25MM; “institute” = \$25 – 100MM; “school” >= \$100MM

    • 谢谢: Almost Missouri
  112. @bomag
    @真相

    Relatively wealthy, for the desert Southwest, with no ports or large trading centers.

    回复:@Truth

    The median household income in Taos is \$36,360.

    https://bestneighborhood.org/household-income-taos-nm/

    • 回复: @bomag
    @真相

    谢谢。

    Rich in culture, then.

    I've always thought of Taos as the land of artists sitting at the coffee shop. I figured they had rich benefactors living nearby. Maybe not.

  113. @Thomm
    @Twinkie

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :


    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s
     
    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don't know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :


    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : 'Southeast Bottoms'

    Incorrect : "southeast bottoms" (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    https://youtu.be/MD53hwAN5DY

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Boomthorkell

    I mean, if your only response is to critique his apostrophe use, it must mean the rest of his argument is too powerful for a response.

    • 回复: @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    Your reading comprehension is terrible. I am not disputing that Des Moines had a black mayor, and who cares if there was one 20 years ago. I am simply pointing out how a foreigner still has bad grammar despite his over-the-top self-praise.

    Plus, you have bigger problems to worry about. I recall than when asked if you would rather have sex with a white man or the prettiest mulatto woman in the world, you chose the white man. No wonder you people can't infiltrate normal, heterosexual society.

    回复:@Boomthorkell

  114. @Boomthorkell
    @汤姆

    I mean, if your only response is to critique his apostrophe use, it must mean the rest of his argument is too powerful for a response.

    回复:@Thomm

    Your reading comprehension is terrible. I am not disputing that Des Moines had a black mayor, and who cares if there was one 20 years ago. I am simply pointing out how a foreigner still has bad grammar despite his over-the-top self-praise.

    Plus, you have bigger problems to worry about. I recall than when asked if you would rather have sex with a white man or the prettiest mulatto woman in the world, you chose the white man. No wonder you people can’t infiltrate normal, heterosexual society.

    • 回复: @Boomthorkell
    @汤姆

    Lol, oh man, I forgot it's this guy. I only remembered his reasonable comments about Trump and good American objectives.

    I'll tell him hwat, though. I enjoy women in most (attractive) forms. People shouldn't answer this question though because it is a kind of gay little schoolboy trap argument, answering which would render the answer spiritually and physically submissive (gay). He hates nationalism, which is fine. I get it. He's a spiritually cucked American, and heritage Americans don't mean shit to him. No country or culture should pursue healthy policies because it would immediately render them homosexual, right ; )

    Russia and China...really opening themselves up for that hard sodomy, unlike our amazingly straight EU and San Francisco.

    笑。

  115. @Truth
    @bomag


    The median household income in Taos is $36,360.
     
    https://bestneighborhood.org/household-income-taos-nm/

    回复:@bomag

    谢谢。

    Rich in culture, then.

    I’ve always thought of Taos as the land of artists sitting at the coffee shop. I figured they had rich benefactors living nearby. Maybe not.

  116. @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    Your reading comprehension is terrible. I am not disputing that Des Moines had a black mayor, and who cares if there was one 20 years ago. I am simply pointing out how a foreigner still has bad grammar despite his over-the-top self-praise.

    Plus, you have bigger problems to worry about. I recall than when asked if you would rather have sex with a white man or the prettiest mulatto woman in the world, you chose the white man. No wonder you people can't infiltrate normal, heterosexual society.

    回复:@Boomthorkell

    Lol, oh man, I forgot it’s this guy. I only remembered his reasonable comments about Trump and good American objectives.

    I’ll tell him hwat, though. I enjoy women in most (attractive) forms. People shouldn’t answer this question though because it is a kind of gay little schoolboy trap argument, answering which would render the answer spiritually and physically submissive (gay). He hates nationalism, which is fine. I get it. He’s a spiritually cucked American, and heritage Americans don’t mean shit to him. No country or culture should pursue healthy policies because it would immediately render them homosexual, right ; )

    Russia and China…really opening themselves up for that hard sodomy, unlike our amazingly straight EU and San Francisco.

    笑。

  117. @Chris Mallory
    @弗朗兹


    Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.
     
    That you use "Irish" and "Polish" instead of "American" means that the "melting pot" is nothing but a myth. No, they are not Americans and never will be.

    回复:@Rocko

    Neither are you. Wouldn’t be surprised if your family descended from filthy Scot scum.

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