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  1. 我怀疑他们并没有想那么多。 如果他们这样做,他们相信这是在网络电视上看到的比例。

    • 同意: Gordo
    • 回复: @Inquiring Mind
    @RG卡马拉

    电视领域的很大一部分是日期线和宫廷电视,典型的节目记录了一个白人男子谋杀他的妻子并试图摆脱它,如果不是因为一个勇敢的姐姐的坚持,他会这样做 -谁说服当局他做的? 人们会认为白人对白人的暴力犯罪是一种名副其实的流行病。

    但剩下的大部分电视领域都是少数族裔演员,电视广告中几乎没有人不是来自传统上代表性不足的群体?

    种族平等会在什么时候要求日期线和法院电视台关注更多非白人谋杀案?

    回复:@Rob McX

    , @AnotherDad
    @RG卡马拉


    我怀疑他们并没有想那么多。 如果他们这样做,他们相信这是在网络电视上看到的比例。
     
    大多数人都知道“黑色区域很麻烦”或类似的东西。

    “比率?” “那是什么?”

    大多数人根本就不是数学思想家。 他们有一些方便的生活规则,但他们根本不像史蒂夫的想法,他们的想法是我的想法。

    通常,我想,这不会是一个大问题。 因为一个社会、一个国家的领导者通常不恨它,而是想摧毁它。 因此,人们的粗略想法“足够好”。 但是美国有一个庞大的世界渗透性的少数派谎言宣传产业。

    因此,如果您不是拥有废话检测器并且“没有意义”或“继续这样做会带来麻烦”的数学倾向的人,那么最终您的大脑就会陷入废话。

    回复:@Thomm

  2. 有人会说白人犯了更多的枪支犯罪。

    一项有趣的后续研究将细分媒体对枪支犯罪的种族关注程度,以及它是否与此类犯罪的真正种族细分成比例。 我的印象,就像史蒂夫关于法律和秩序 SVU 所指出的那样,一般来说,白人凶杀案和枪支犯罪的报道不仅远远超过它们在现实世界中的比例,而且可能占所有报道的 50% 以上。 这将导致《纽约时报》的普通读者相信白人犯下超过 50% 的枪支杀人案,这是有道理的,因为所有种族的枪支犯罪率大致相同。

    • 回复: @Rooster16
    @姜面包人

    You hit the nail on the head. There’s a war going on right now, a war for your mind. The propaganda is so thick, most people have stopped thinking critically; pattern recognition has been turned into a thought crime. Your average White understands black homicide rates are higher, they just cannot grasp how high. They are bombarded with shows like SVU, Law & Order, the Nightly News, even entire channels dedicated to crime like I.D… and all these shows sensationalize White crime very disproportionately to black crime. After watching these programs nonstop, they’re left thinking “see Whites commit terrible crimes too” and that’s exactly what the programmers want. If you’re average White knew how dangerous the black population is, they wouldn’t live within a 100 miles of them.

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @姜面包人


    有人会说白人犯了更多的枪支犯罪。
     
    You've fallen for the "gun violence" semantics trickery. "Gun violence" adds suicide to the numbers, a category dominated by whites.
    , @Revelation
    @姜面包人

    It has been studied, extensively. If you've never heard about these studies before, you should ask yourself how something so well established passes as something "no one ever studied before".

    请参见:

    https://i.imgur.com/MNj0dyS.png

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/expanded_homicide_data_table_3_murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2015.xls

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2015/12/15/guns-and-race-the-different-worlds-of-black-and-white-americans/

    https://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to-the-united-states-demographics-vs-guns/

    https://crimeresearch.org/2014/03/comparing-murder-rates-across-countries/

    回复:@ginger Bread man

  3. 我们应该开始编制“被真相抢劫”的账目,经典的 60 年代自由主义者被迫承认恐怖的红皮书。 你可能见过 埃尔北或半身像,其中一位左翼社会学家承认,许多中美洲人是他们自己财富的创造者,并且是无可辩驳的可怕人。 Anon 现在引起了我们的注意 留在罗斯代尔,一个 1998 年对一个被多样性破坏的小白人德克萨斯小镇的描述。 它在图书馆创世纪。 Derb之类的书可能会因为作者而被驳回,但还有其他作者。

    摘抄:

    1982 年的威尔丁事件
    1989 年,一群纽约青年在中央公园袭击并差点杀死一名女慢跑者后,“狂野”一词成为流行词汇的一部分。 这些青少年告诉警方,打野是该市年轻人众所周知的消遣方式。 正如参与其中的纽约青年所使用的那样,这个词意味着像一群野生动物一样四处奔跑,表现出最基本和最暴力的倾向。 早在纽约市事件震惊全国之前,Rosedale 的年轻人就已经参与了疯狂的暴力活动。

    Anon 表示:

    他接着描述了黑人青少年对白人长者实施的一系列残忍的强奸、谋杀、抢劫和入室行窃。 一旦你意识到这种确切的犯罪模式正在美国每一个在 60 年代和 70 年代经历大量黑人移民的主要城市都发生,这令人难以置信。 你可以在图书馆创世纪找到完整的书。

    让你所有的“城市主义者”朋友阅读这本书。 不用大声说出来,让他们看到,在世界上每个黑人大量居住的城市和每个国家,黑人帮派犯罪的模式都是一致的(至少 50 年)。 模式就在那里。 即使是作者,路易斯维尔大学的库克自由社会研究教授,当他亲眼看到它时,也无法忽视它。

    • 谢谢: Mike Tre
    • 回复: @International Jew
    @罗斯

    What is "Library Genesis" and how does it work? Will it allow me to see this book without paying the $45 Amazon charges for it?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross, @Tristero

    , @Cutter
    @罗斯

    I remember the Rosewood Twitter thread. I sent it to a prog and he didn't care. Most of them don't.

    回复:@Harry Baldwin

    , @LP5
    @罗斯

    J. Ross writes about:


    “mugged by truth” accounts
     
    One way to assess the policy arc for large urban area social issues is through the Kübler-Ross 5-step method.

    1. Shock or denial
    2。 愤怒
    3.讨价还价
    4。 萧条
    5。 验收

    Or just relocate when able.
  4. 一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,超过一半的自称为自由派或非常自由派的人认为,1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人被警察谋杀,而保守派猜测这个数字约为 10 人。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    因此,如果你问自由主义者与非西班牙裔白人相比,黑人的人均谋杀犯罪率有多高,你可能会得到“一半高”、“相等”或“高出 1.5 倍”之类的答案。 大多数温和的保守派也可能猜得很低。

    得到答案会很有趣,但即使问这个问题也会被认为是无耻的,比如问,“你认为黑人平均智商比非西班牙裔白人低多少。”

    • 回复: @International Jew
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    是的。
    更老练的自由主义者会把他的思想置于一个思考过程中,在某个阶段遇到一个除以零或负数的平方根,从而导致奥威尔所说的 犯罪阻止.
    http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=565

    , @Hypnotoad666
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    IIRC,几十年来接受调查的普通白人估计黑人约占总人口的 33%。 因此,即使他们正确猜测黑人犯下了大约 50% 的谋杀案,他们也会认为这是黑人谋杀率约为白人谋杀率的 1.5 倍。 (因为普通美国人的数学也很差。)

    , @SMK
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    As Jared Taylor has noted many times, blacks are 25-30 times more likely to murder whites than vice-versa. And what percentage and number of blacks who murder whites aren't convicted (like O.J. Simpson), prosecuted, indicted, or even arrested, so their murders don't even count or exist statistically.

    And how many whites have been convicted of murder for shooting and killing blacks in obvious self-defense, like the 3 men in Georgia who were just convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison for the "murder" of a black thug and also charged with violating his "civil rights" by Joe Biden's and Merrick Garland's Justice Dept.?

    And Derrick Chauvin was convicted of murder and sentenced to 22-years and 6-months in prison for simply doing his job in arresting and subduing George Floyd -if, at worst, a bit callously and carelessly- who likely would still have died of a meth and fentanyl induced heart attack even if Chauvin hadn't knelt on his back for a few minutes.

    回复:@Art Deco

    , @Hegar
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)


    A survey produced by Skeptic.com last year found that more than half the people who identify as liberal or very liberal believe 1,000 or more unarmed black men were murdered by police in 2019, while conservatives guessed the number to be about 10. According to the Washington Post database, the number was 12.
     
    They weren't "murdered". In almost all twelve cases the Black was attacking the police, trying to grab the policeman's weapon or reaching for another weapon.

    Aside from that, research shows police are more likely to shoot White suspects than Black suspects. Whites get no protection from the media or politicians.
  5. [抱歉,之前的编辑在我进行更正之前已发布。]
    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,57% 的自由派或非常自由派的人认为 1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人男子被警察谋杀,而超过 34% 的人认为这是 10,000 名或更多。 几乎一半认为自己保守或非常保守的人猜测这个数字约为 10。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    因此,如果你问自由主义者与非西班牙裔白人相比,黑人的人均谋杀犯罪率有多高,你可能会得到“一半高”、“相等”或“高出 1.5 倍”之类的答案。 大多数温和的保守派也可能猜得很低。

    得到答案会很有趣,但即使问这个问题也会被认为是无耻的,比如问,“你认为黑人平均智商比非西班牙裔白人低多少。”

    • 回复: @Twinkie
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)


    得到答案会很有趣,但即使问这个问题也会被认为是无耻的,比如问,“你认为黑人平均智商比非西班牙裔白人低多少。”
     
    这之所以“离谱”,正是因为受过良好教育的自由主义者实际上知道答案。 强迫他们讨论这个不方便和尴尬的事实是不礼貌的。 就他们参与的程度而言,他们会将其归因于贫困、缺乏教育、缺乏“机会”等。

    为什么你认为买得起的人住在“有好学校”的住宅区? 这是“请少数黑人和西班牙裔”的代表。

    回复:@NOTA

    , @Edward Dett
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)


    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 last year found that 57% of the people who identify as liberal or very liberal believe 1,000 or more unarmed black men were murdered by police in 2019, while more than 34% of those believe it was 10,000 or more. Almost half of those considering themselves conservative or very conservative guessed the number to be about 10. According to the Washington Post database, the number was 12.
     
    This misperception needs to be dispelled. Glad you bring it back into focus. I remember it being reported on Fox, but so much information comes and goes daily ... The misperception is definitely embedded in American blacks as part of the chip on their shoulders, and the 大小 of wrongness if you group by political affiliation should also be included whenever it is mentioned. (Way, way off paranoidly for the left; a little bit off too sanguinely for the right.)

    As effete as it sounds, disseminating proper facts is disseminating the truth.

  6. @Harry Baldwin
    [抱歉,之前的编辑在我进行更正之前已发布。]
    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,57% 的自由派或非常自由派的人认为 1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人男子被警察谋杀,而超过 34% 的人认为这是 10,000 名或更多。 几乎一半认为自己保守或非常保守的人猜测这个数字约为 10。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    So if you asked liberals how high the per capita murder offending rate for blacks is compared to that of non-Hispanic whites, you'd probably get an answer like "half as high," "equal" or perhaps "1.5 times higher." Most moderate conservatives would also probably guess low.

    It would be interesting to get the answer, but to even ask the question would be considered outrageous, like asking, "How much lower do you think average black IQ is than that of non-Hispanic whites."

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Edward Dett

    得到答案会很有趣,但即使问这个问题也会被认为是无耻的,比如问,“你认为黑人平均智商比非西班牙裔白人低多少。”

    这之所以“离谱”,正是因为受过良好教育的自由主义者实际上知道答案。 强迫他们讨论这个不方便和尴尬的事实是不礼貌的。 就他们参与的程度而言,他们会将其归因于贫困、缺乏教育、缺乏“机会”等。

    为什么你认为买得起的人住在“有好学校”的住宅区? 这是“请少数黑人和西班牙裔”的代表。

    • 回复: @NOTA
    @Twinkie

    Also, nobody cares about being neighbors with a black doctor or a Mexican dentist, they just want to avoid the underclass, which is disproportionately black and hispanic.

    回复:@AceDeuce

  7. 你认为普通美国人会如何回答这项民意调查? “粗略地说,与非西班牙裔白人相比,黑人的人均谋杀犯罪率有多高?”

    如果有思想的白人不愿意回答这个问题,你可以通过询问黑人与西班牙裔的犯罪比率,或者更好的是,询问黑人与亚裔的比率来忽略“白人特权”因素。 然后指出白人与亚洲人的比例,并询问亚洲人似乎对这个国家的白人有明显的“白人特权”(与白人相比,凶杀率是白人的 1/4 到 1/2)。

    然后要求他们谴责这种“亚洲特权”,它肯定会揭示这个国家白人的贫困、缺乏教育、缺乏机会等,以及应该采取什么措施。

    • 同意: Harry Baldwin
    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Twinkie

    Good idea, Twinkie. Regarding your prior comment, yeah, why is it that even liberals without children or with grown-up children desire good schools so much? Odd ...

  8. 许多人会说它略高一些,因为黑人平均来说更穷,穷人被迫过犯罪生活,而贫困是没有颜色的。

  9. 虽然不是黑人与白人的谋杀率,但这里有一段在史蒂夫的树林附近挥舞着白斧头犯罪的视频。

    你会注意到记者指的是那个针对“工人”的人,而街头采访的那个人则说水果商贩是“经济的重要组成部分”。 作为So的终身居民。 卡尔,当我想到圣费尔南多谷蓬勃发展的经济时,首先想到的是成本贩子!

    虽然我不宽恕用斧头追捕非法的外星人贩子,但令人惊讶的是,该报告对供应商的支持程度如此之高。 这与一个 8 岁的俄亥俄州女孩的故事形成了鲜明的对比,她有一个柠檬水摊,因为没有获得适当的许可而被警察关闭。 https://nypost.com/2022/08/14/ohio-girl-asa-bakers-lemonade-stand-near-food-festival-shut-down-after-complaint/

    另一个爸爸会沮丧地摇头,并再次证明是正确的。

  10. 他们相信这是一对一的,如果不是,他们最好不要 知道 谈论它。

  11. “两倍高”是指“两倍”还是“三次”? 双倍还是三倍?

    请原谅斯波克先生的行为。

    • 回复: @Redneck farmer
    @RegCæsar

    双倍的。 200% 将是三次。

    回复:@RegCæsar

    , @Joseph Farnsworth
    @RegCæsar

    This isn't hard, Reg. If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 12-ft tall or twice as tall. If you are 2-times taller than Joe, you are three-times as tall as Joe or thrice as tall. So the Redneck farmer was correct in his response to your question. "2 times higher" means 3-times as high.

    回复:@Juvenalis

  12. @Reg Cæsar
    Does "2 times higher" mean "twice" or "thrice"? Double or treble?

    请原谅斯波克先生的行为。

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Joseph Farnsworth

    双倍的。 200% 将是三次。

    • 回复: @Reg Cæsar
    @乡下人农夫


    双倍的。 200% 将是三次。
     
    200% 更多, 或200% 作为? This isn't pedantry, it's simple logic. Imagine these words in a contract. I bet you'd have your attorneys read "2 times higher" differently depending on whether you were the "payer" or the "payee".
  13. 记住,黑人犯罪不算数!

    • 回复: @Twinkie
    @乡下人农夫


    记住,黑人犯罪不算数!
     
    这就像一棵树倒在森林里吗?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @乡下人农夫


    记住,黑人犯罪不算数!
     
    But it adds up.

    When someone tells you that the factors you cite don't add up, inform them that factors are not meant to. They up. Or, rather, 下, as you multiply the difference from 1.0.
  14. 法律与秩序的比例是多少?

    • 回复: @Rich
    @SOL

    I haven't seen a lot of Law and Order, but what I have seen, the ratio is 100% White criminals with the occasional coloured victim.

  15. @Redneck farmer
    Remember folks, black on black crime doesn't count!

    回复:@ Twinkie,@ RegCæsar

    记住,黑人犯罪不算数!

    这就像一棵树倒在森林里吗?

    • 哈哈: Redneck farmer
  16. O/T(对不起史蒂夫):

    • 谢谢: JimDandy
  17. 虽然美国人知道黑人比白人更暴力,但很少有人愿意讨论这个话题。 当你偶尔找到想要谈论这个的人时,通常是黑人或外国人。

    如果你提到黑人容易暴力,我认为普通的美国白人不会被冒犯,但他们会对你提出这样一个禁忌话题感到震惊。

    我注意到,如果你提起黑人暴力,自由主义者最初会被冒犯。 在你引用了一些统计数据和来源之后,他们就会安静下来,不要说太多。

    保守派(在某种程度上是温和派)会点头,然后提到“PC警察”如何不再让我们进行诚实的对话。 有时,他们会同意,但随后会提出他们喜欢的黑人保守派(克拉伦斯·托马斯、本·卡森、拉里·埃尔德等)。

    • 回复: @Anon
    @约翰尼·沃克123


    我注意到,如果你提到黑人暴力,自由主义者最初会被冒犯。 在你引用了一些统计数据和来源之后,他们就会安静下来,不要说太多。
     
    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?

    回复:@JohnnyWalker123,@anon

    , @IHTG
    @约翰尼·沃克123


    保守派(在某种程度上是温和派)会点头,然后提到“PC警察”如何不再让我们进行诚实的对话。 有时,他们会同意,但随后会提出他们喜欢的黑人保守派(克拉伦斯·托马斯、本·卡森、拉里·埃尔德等)。
     
    Well, why shouldn't they? Those are people who they like.

    Crime is an all too human phenomenon and the problems of black Americans are human ones. I think the main problem with "race relations" in America is the tendency on all sides to view the disparity between whites and blacks as a difference of kind rather than a difference of degree. The inability to view blacks as just extra-rowdy people, instead of as a species of bizarre violent aliens that requires either coddling or extermination, is literally destroying your civilization.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes, @Gabe Ruth

    , @Anon
    @约翰尼·沃克123

    人们可能会承认黑人比其他人更暴力,但大多数人会认为这是贫穷的结果。 有一个错误的假设,即贫困导致暴力而不是过度嫉妒,以及一种认为经济是零和的观点的流行——即,黑人之所以贫穷,是因为其他人都是富有的。

    换句话说,无论黑人做什么,白人都会受到指责。

  18. 我敢肯定有各种各样的比率会震惊人们(或者至少是一些人)。

    例如,通常在美国每年的比率是多少:-
    (被黑人强奸的亚洲女性)到
    (被亚洲男人强奸的黑人妇女)

    大概经常(通常?)它会遇到不能被零除的老数学问题。

  19. @JohnnyWalker123
    While Americans are aware that Blacks are much more violent than Whites, few are willing to discuss the topic. When you do occasionally find people who want to talk about that, it's usually Blacks or foreigners.

    I don't think the average American White would be offended if you mentioned that Blacks are prone to violence, but they'd be shocked that you're bringing up such a taboo topic.

    I've noticed that if you bring up Black violence, liberals will initially get offended. After you cite a few statistics and sources, then they get quiet and don't say too much.

    Conservatives (and to some extent moderates) will nod along and then mention how the "PC police" won't let us have honest conversations anymore. Sometimes, they'll agree, but then bring up a Black conservative who they like (Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Larry Elder, etc).

    Replies: @Anon, @IHTG, @Anon

    我注意到,如果你提到黑人暴力,自由主义者最初会被冒犯。 在你引用了一些统计数据和来源之后,他们就会安静下来,不要说太多。

    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
    @阿农

    https://archive.colorofcrime.com/2016/03/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    , @anon
    @阿农


    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?
     
    尽管大多数图书馆都不受这些事实的影响,但我最喜欢的统计数据之一是跨种族暴力犯罪率。 事实证明,黑人攻击白人比白人攻击黑人要多得多。 在过去几年中,典型的数字是黑人对白人实施了大约 500,000 次暴力袭击,而白人对黑人实施了大约 50,000 次暴力袭击。 这个 10 倍的差异很高,但是当你考虑到人口中大约有 1/5 的黑人这一事实时,黑人攻击白人的总体比率几乎比白人攻击黑人的比率高 5000%。

    这也意味着在美国,每 60 秒就有一名黑人强奸、抢劫、袭击或杀害一名白人。 你在新闻上见过多少这样的罪行?

    Replies: @David In TN, @James Speaks, @Curle

  20. 让我们记住,中位数的美国人要么投票给特朗普,要么认真考虑过。 所以我怀疑“普通美国人”很容易理解。

  21. @Harry Baldwin
    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,超过一半的自称为自由派或非常自由派的人认为,1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人被警察谋杀,而保守派猜测这个数字约为 10 人。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    So if you asked liberals how high the per capita murder offending rate for blacks is compared to that of non-Hispanic whites, you'd probably get an answer like "half as high," "equal" or perhaps "1.5 times higher." Most moderate conservatives would also probably guess low.

    It would be interesting to get the answer, but to even ask the question would be considered outrageous, like asking, "How much lower do you think average black IQ is than that of non-Hispanic whites."

    Replies: @International Jew, @Hypnotoad666, @SMK, @Hegar

    是的。
    更老练的自由主义者会把他的思想置于一个思考过程中,在某个阶段遇到一个除以零或负数的平方根,从而导致奥威尔所说的 犯罪阻止.
    http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=565

  22. @JohnnyWalker123
    While Americans are aware that Blacks are much more violent than Whites, few are willing to discuss the topic. When you do occasionally find people who want to talk about that, it's usually Blacks or foreigners.

    I don't think the average American White would be offended if you mentioned that Blacks are prone to violence, but they'd be shocked that you're bringing up such a taboo topic.

    I've noticed that if you bring up Black violence, liberals will initially get offended. After you cite a few statistics and sources, then they get quiet and don't say too much.

    Conservatives (and to some extent moderates) will nod along and then mention how the "PC police" won't let us have honest conversations anymore. Sometimes, they'll agree, but then bring up a Black conservative who they like (Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Larry Elder, etc).

    Replies: @Anon, @IHTG, @Anon

    保守派(在某种程度上是温和派)会点头,然后提到“PC警察”如何不再让我们进行诚实的对话。 有时,他们会同意,但随后会提出他们喜欢的黑人保守派(克拉伦斯·托马斯、本·卡森、拉里·埃尔德等)。

    那么,他们为什么不应该呢? 那些是他们喜欢的人。

    犯罪是一种非常人性化的现象,美国黑人的问题也是人的问题。 我认为美国“种族关系”的主要问题是各方倾向于将白人和黑人之间的差异视为一种类型的差异,而不是程度的差异。 无法将黑人视为粗暴的人,而不是一种需要溺爱或灭绝的奇异暴力外星人,这实际上是在摧毁你的文明。

    • 回复: @ThreeCranes
    @IHTG


    "The inability to view blacks as just extra-rowdy people, instead of as a species of bizarre violent aliens that requires either coddling or extermination, is literally destroying your civilization."
     
    So, let me get this straight. It's not the blacks who mercilessly attack someone in a street beatdown sucker punch that lands the victim in the hospital or kills him outright. It's not the blacks pulling down statues of persons who stood for principles or embodied ideal traits that lie completely beyond black's ken. It's not the blacks who call for the destruction of "whiteness"; it's the whites who have an "inability to view blacks as just extra-rowdy people" who are "literally destroying...civilization".

    There has to be a label for this complete inversion of reality. If you're white, you are the living instance, the walking exemplar of what used to be called an "alienated" person. You are completely out of touch with your own self interests, have enshrined a false idol at the center of your Self. Get clear, man! IF YOU DON'T STICK UP FOR YOURSELF, NO ONE WILL. Now strap on your greaves, shoulder your shield, heft your spear, and go out there and FIGHT for your right to do that which you most treasure: a grand project or a beautiful woman or whatever.

    回复:@偶尔潜伏者

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @IHTG

    希望他们在你的表演试验中看到这一点,兄弟。

    听起来不错,但更准确的问题是溺爱一方已经占据主导地位,具有讽刺意味的是,由于基于伤害的道德的优势,现在提倡人类正派和一致性的人被称为灭绝主义者,几乎完全正确就像你在这里发表你的冷嘲热讽一样。

    回复:@IHTG

  23. 在公共场所殴打白人和亚洲人。 这些暴力罪犯是我们本土的奴隶血统黑人男性。 跨种族强奸也是如此,包括监狱强奸。 进口的黑人和西班牙裔会犯下其他非暴力罪行。 对大多数人来说,许多人并不讨厌白人。 这是奴隶后裔的领地,讽刺的是,他们吸食白人和亚洲纳税人,比美国任何其他群体都多。 通过无所事事的政府工作以及数百个福利和住房计划/

    尽管生活在 rez 上的印度人获得的人均联邦汇款高于黑人。 至少翻倍或三倍。 他们有比你想象的更多的联邦计划(金钱)。

  24. 在我看来,自由主义者喜欢的普通“好学校”郊区就黑人而言非常不多样化。 一个黑人家庭可能还好,但随后他们的坏 juju 亲戚来拜访并调查附近的情况。 我对利比郊区平均“好学校”的细分是 65% 的白人、30% 的亚裔、5% 的西班牙裔白人。

    • 回复: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @克莱德


    在我看来,自由主义者喜欢的普通“好学校”郊区就黑人而言非常不多样化。 一个黑人家庭可能还好,但随后他们的坏 juju 亲戚来拜访并调查附近的情况。 我对利比郊区平均“好学校”的细分是 65% 的白人、30% 的亚裔、5% 的西班牙裔白人。
     
    午餐生活的自由派女士所居住的郊区具有多样性——能够在这些郊区买房并缴纳学校税的黑人是预先选择的,因为他们的气质均匀。 每隔一段时间,那个盒子外面的人就会设法进入并导致问题 - 我记得艾伦艾弗森在格拉德温买了一座豪宅并表现得像艾伦艾弗森一样 - 有兄弟来来去去等等。他在邻居中不受欢迎在那个时期。
  25. @Harry Baldwin
    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,超过一半的自称为自由派或非常自由派的人认为,1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人被警察谋杀,而保守派猜测这个数字约为 10 人。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    So if you asked liberals how high the per capita murder offending rate for blacks is compared to that of non-Hispanic whites, you'd probably get an answer like "half as high," "equal" or perhaps "1.5 times higher." Most moderate conservatives would also probably guess low.

    It would be interesting to get the answer, but to even ask the question would be considered outrageous, like asking, "How much lower do you think average black IQ is than that of non-Hispanic whites."

    Replies: @International Jew, @Hypnotoad666, @SMK, @Hegar

    IIRC,几十年来接受调查的普通白人估计黑人约占总人口的 33%。 因此,即使他们正确猜测黑人犯下了大约 50% 的谋杀案,他们也会认为这是黑人谋杀率约为白人谋杀率的 1.5 倍。 (因为普通美国人的数学也很差。)

  26. 我有一个爱尔兰朋友,他说明了大多数人在使用这些东西时遇到的困难。 我的朋友是一所精英私立高中的老师,拥有一所好大学的经济学学位,我猜他表面上很聪明。 我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。

    我试图解释足球队实际上是 相反 他声称,这是对爱尔兰的一种误导和扭曲的表述,使这个国家看起来像是 30% 的黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。

    没关系。 我对人口现实的无私应用只是一只耳朵进了另一只耳朵。 他根本无法理解我的意思。 他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动,只是认为他们需要随处可见。

    同样令人好奇的是,过去半个世纪以来主导美国意识的黑白种族二分法甚至迁移到了英国和爱尔兰。 没有人关心东亚或南亚人在我们的屏幕和运动队中是看不见的。 黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。 在许多西方话语中,反种族主义仅仅意味着给黑人机会和免费的东西。

    • 回复: @Bardon Kaldian
    @阿农


    他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动
     
    这不应该发生。
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @阿农

    Ha. Your 93% number was one I happend to have looked up the other day. Only 83% (wiki says) of the country is Irish however, as 10% are White people from eastern Europe. Now that's a hell of a lot better than their being from Nigeria, Pakistan or whatever, of course ... my post started with a picture at the castle in County Kilkenny, in which some local young Moslem ladies were studying on the grounds:

    A man's home is his castle is the title of said post - we were in the country a few weeks back.

    回复:@Anon

    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @阿农


    我试图解释说,足球队实际上与他所声称的相反,这是对爱尔兰的误导和歪曲,让人觉得这个国家有 30% 是黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。
     
    矛盾的是,在爱尔兰和不列颠群岛,橄榄球这种更加暴力的运动是收费私立学校的上层阶级的运动,而足球是下层阶级青睐的运动。

    The Irish first XV has had players of foreign origin - Simon Zebo and Bundee Aki come to mind. But rugby players are going to tend to be the products of elite private educational institutions even if the players have foreign origins - you're more likely to get a foreign origin player from Kenya who went to a private school there which trains in rugby than you are to have a home-grown black kid from low economic status play rugby at a high level. So the IRFU sides are generally the graduates of a handful of boy's rugby powerhouse schools mostly in Leinster and Munster.

    But otherwise you are correct. I lived in Dublin in the 1990s and you really wouldn't see people who didn't look Irish - if you did, they were kids in private schools near the rows of embassies in South Dublin, or people who were likely diplomats or attached to foreign employers with an Irish presence. It's really changed, and not for the better.

    回复:@International Jew

    , @Anonymous
    @阿农


    It’s also curious that the black-white racial dichotomy that has dominated the American consciousness for the last half century has migrated even to the UK and Ireland;
     
    Good correlation between the domination that you mention and the post-WW II domination of Europe by the US Federal Government.

    There is a good deal of resentment of US domination in Europe, more now that US "sanctions" are destroying the European economy, causing an African famine that will drive yet another wave of African migrants into Europe, and at least threatening spillover of yet another conventional mechanized war into Eastern and Northern Europe.

    Should Europe cut its ties with the US, something that is possible because of heightened European resentment of US forced policies, and an intense domestic politics dispute in the US, Europe might reverse many of the present US enforced policies, and do so quickly.
    4th quarter 2022 seems the most likely time for such a cut, as cold weather, African migration, and short term US political conflict will reach peak salience for US and Europe during that time interval.
    , @AnotherDad
    @阿农


    我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。
     
    这太骇人听闻了。 不是这个“经济学家”的数学无知。 毫不令人震惊的是,爱尔兰允许自己成为超过 1% 的黑人——查了一下,2016 年的人口普查数据显示为 1.3%,现在可能更糟——人们并没有为此疯狂。

    这是一场灾难。 灾难。 你以这样的方式开始,有点“多样性”,很快你就从一个连贯的、愉快的、单一民族的社会……变成了一个“多样化的”有争议的多元文化的地狱。 你是美国……在一个天气更糟的小岛上。

    你甚至不必对黑人有很大的负面情绪。 让你的国家成为 2% 的亚洲人也是如此——这意味着你那里有一群不完整的穆斯林。

    黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。
     
    这个。

    这个。

    战后美国的主导地位和力量以及英语的普遍性,使得美国的少数派宣传能够从我们的大学、新闻媒体、政界,当然还有 Hollyweird 中传播出去。

    基本上,美国的巨大财富和权力——由辛勤工作的白人创造——被人们蔑视正是那些辛勤工作的白人用来资助和盖上官方帝国批准印章的人。他们的少数派、反民族、反白人异教徒的宣传。

    是美国的吧? 那些人是成功的,必须做得很好……我们也能做到。

    回复:@Rob McX

  27. @J.Ross
    We should begin to compile "mugged by truth" accounts, redpilled books by classic 60s liberals forced to admit to horror. You have probably seen 埃尔北或半身像,其中一位左翼社会学家承认,许多中美洲人是他们自己财富的创造者,并且是无可辩驳的可怕人。 Anon 现在引起了我们的注意 留在罗斯代尔, a 1998 account of a small white Texas town devastated by diversity. It's on Library Genesis. A book by Derb or the like might be dismissed because of the author, but there are other authors.

    摘抄:

    1982 年的威尔丁事件
    1989 年,一群纽约青年在中央公园袭击并差点杀死一名女慢跑者后,“狂野”一词成为流行词汇的一部分。 这些青少年告诉警方,打野是该市年轻人众所周知的消遣方式。 正如参与其中的纽约青年所使用的那样,这个词意味着像一群野生动物一样四处奔跑,表现出最基本和最暴力的倾向。 早在纽约市事件震惊全国之前,Rosedale 的年轻人就已经参与了疯狂的暴力活动。
     
    Anon 表示:

    He goes on to describe a series of brutal rapes, murders, robberies and home invasions committed against white elders by black teens. It's mind-boggling once you realize that this exact pattern of crime was happening in every major US city that experienced significant black in-migration in the 60s and 70s. You can find the full book it on Library Genesis.

    Get all your "urbanist" friends to read this book. Without saying it out loud, get them to see that there is a consistent (at least 50 years) pattern of black gang crimes in every city and every country in the world where blacks live in large numbers. The pattern is there. Even the author, a cuck liberal social studies professor at the University of Louisville, couldn't ignore it when he saw it with his own eyes.
     

    Replies: @International Jew, @Cutter, @LP5

    什么是“图书馆创世纪”,它是如何工作的? 它能让我在不支付 45 美元亚马逊费用的情况下看到这本书吗?

    • 回复: @Bardon Kaldian
    @国际犹太人

    Go to Libgen, https://www.libgen.is/; type in search & perhaps you'll find what you want. Click on the cover. Then, you'll be led to Get or something. Books (and articles) are in various formats (pdf, epub, mobi,..).

    您也可以搜索文章。

    https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/bafykbzacebsg5ej6dosztv6zwmp4f64zrnjaomelq3ki5tvojpajg4lnlfixs?filename=Scott%20Cummings%20-%20Left%20Behind%20In%20Rosedale_%20Race%20Relations%20And%20The%20Collapse%20Of%20Community%20Institutions-Routledge%20%281998%29.pdf

    回复:@International Jew

    , @J.Ross
    @国际犹太人

    "bee dash okay dot kaum" or "gen dot line dot rus dot ec" can get you books without a subscription or membership fee.

    回复:@ J.Ross

    , @Tristero
    @国际犹太人

    Another such book source, which sometimes has things not on Libgen, is b-ok.org

  28. @International Jew
    @罗斯

    What is "Library Genesis" and how does it work? Will it allow me to see this book without paying the $45 Amazon charges for it?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross, @Tristero

    去Libgen, https://www.libgen.is/; 输入搜索,也许你会找到你想要的。 点击封面。 然后,您将被引导到 Get 或其他东西。 书籍(和文章)有多种格式(pdf、epub、mobi、..)。

    您也可以搜索文章。

    https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/bafykbzacebsg5ej6dosztv6zwmp4f64zrnjaomelq3ki5tvojpajg4lnlfixs?filename=Scott%20Cummings%20-%20Left%20Behind%20In%20Rosedale_%20Race%20Relations%20And%20The%20Collapse%20Of%20Community%20Institutions-Routledge%20%281998%29.pdf

    • 回复: @International Jew
    @巴顿·卡迪安(Bardon Kaldian)

    I managed to borrow this book (for one hour but hey it was free) from archive.org. Totally legit, not need to turn to bootleggers and phishing operations.

  29. @Anon
    我有一个爱尔兰朋友,他说明了大多数人在使用这些东西时遇到的困难。 我的朋友是一所精英私立高中的老师,拥有一所好大学的经济学学位,我猜他表面上很聪明。 我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。

    我试图解释足球队实际上是 相反 他声称,这是对爱尔兰的一种误导和扭曲的表述,使这个国家看起来像是 30% 的黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。

    没关系。 我对人口现实的无私应用只是一只耳朵进了另一只耳朵。 他根本无法理解我的意思。 他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动,只是认为他们需要随处可见。

    同样令人好奇的是,过去半个世纪以来主导美国意识的黑白种族二分法甚至迁移到了英国和爱尔兰。 没有人关心东亚或南亚人在我们的屏幕和运动队中是看不见的。 黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。 在许多西方话语中,反种族主义仅仅意味着给黑人机会和免费的东西。

    回复:@Bardon Kaldian、@Achmed E. Newman、@Alec Leamas(在家工作)、@Anonymous、@AnotherDad

    他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动

    这不应该发生。

  30. @JohnnyWalker123
    While Americans are aware that Blacks are much more violent than Whites, few are willing to discuss the topic. When you do occasionally find people who want to talk about that, it's usually Blacks or foreigners.

    I don't think the average American White would be offended if you mentioned that Blacks are prone to violence, but they'd be shocked that you're bringing up such a taboo topic.

    I've noticed that if you bring up Black violence, liberals will initially get offended. After you cite a few statistics and sources, then they get quiet and don't say too much.

    Conservatives (and to some extent moderates) will nod along and then mention how the "PC police" won't let us have honest conversations anymore. Sometimes, they'll agree, but then bring up a Black conservative who they like (Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Larry Elder, etc).

    Replies: @Anon, @IHTG, @Anon

    人们可能会承认黑人比其他人更暴力,但大多数人会认为这是贫穷的结果。 有一个错误的假设,即贫困导致暴力而不是过度嫉妒,以及一种认为经济是零和的观点的流行——即,黑人之所以贫穷,是因为其他人都是富有的。

    换句话说,无论黑人做什么,白人都会受到指责。

  31. @IHTG
    @约翰尼·沃克123


    保守派(在某种程度上是温和派)会点头,然后提到“PC警察”如何不再让我们进行诚实的对话。 有时,他们会同意,但随后会提出他们喜欢的黑人保守派(克拉伦斯·托马斯、本·卡森、拉里·埃尔德等)。
     
    Well, why shouldn't they? Those are people who they like.

    Crime is an all too human phenomenon and the problems of black Americans are human ones. I think the main problem with "race relations" in America is the tendency on all sides to view the disparity between whites and blacks as a difference of kind rather than a difference of degree. The inability to view blacks as just extra-rowdy people, instead of as a species of bizarre violent aliens that requires either coddling or extermination, is literally destroying your civilization.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes, @Gabe Ruth

    “无法将黑人视为特别粗暴的人,而不是一种需要溺爱或灭绝的奇异暴力外星人,这实际上是在摧毁你的文明。”

    所以,让我直截了当。 将受害者送进医院或直接杀死他的不是黑人在街头殴打吸盘拳中无情地攻击某人。 不是黑人推倒那些代表原则或体现完全超出黑人视野的理想特征的人的雕像。 呼吁摧毁“白人”的不是黑人; 是白人“无法将黑人视为特别粗暴的人”,他们“从字面上摧毁……文明”。

    这种完全颠倒的现实必须有一个标签。 如果你是白人,你就是活生生的例子,是过去被称为“异化”人的活生生的榜样。 你完全脱离了自己的利益,在你的自我中心供奉了一个虚假的偶像。 说清楚,伙计! 如果你不为自己坚持,没有人会。 现在系好你的护胫,肩上你的盾牌,举起你的长矛,然后走出去,争取你做你最珍视的事情的权利:一个伟大的项目或一个美丽的女人或任何东西。

    • 回复: @Occasional lurker
    @三只鹤

    The post didn't say that at all. I read as the typical mainstream conservative position: Black people are responsible for their behavior and should be treated like anyone else who behaves that way, while traditional liberals try to excuse and coddle them like pets with no responsibility, and alt-right-HBD people see them as members of an alien subspecies who just are that way and cannot be reformed, i e also as people with no responsibility. The post claims that there is a fundamental agreement between liberals (including black activists) and HBD on black people that black people are not humans like other humans, and assumes this is counterproductive for US society.

  32. 一些评论者指出,Lyin'Press 与人们的错误估计有很大关系。 然而,作为一个 23 年来没有参加过 Iall 的人,我不得不说,如果没有阅读 iSteve 和/或 VDare 的帖子,我不会猜到这个比例会这么高。

    事后很难说,但如果我问这个问题,我可能会猜到 3 到 4 倍。 (我喜欢这次民意调查中答案的偏差——几乎是数量级,效果很好,国际海事组织。)有一个因素是,虽然我知道有很多年轻的暴力黑人,而且我已经阅读了犯罪统计数据,他们是什么做他们自己在他们的兜帽不会打扰我这么多。

  33. @Twinkie

    你认为普通美国人会如何回答这项民意调查? “粗略地说,与非西班牙裔白人相比,黑人的人均谋杀犯罪率有多高?”
     
    如果有思想的白人不愿意回答这个问题,你可以通过询问黑人与西班牙裔的犯罪比率,或者更好的是,询问黑人与亚裔的比率来忽略“白人特权”因素。 然后指出白人与亚洲人的比例,并询问亚洲人似乎对这个国家的白人有明显的“白人特权”(与白人相比,凶杀率是白人的 1/4 到 1/2)。

    然后要求他们谴责这种“亚洲特权”,它肯定会揭示这个国家白人的贫困、缺乏教育、缺乏机会等,以及应该采取什么措施。

    回复:@Achmed E. Newman

    好主意,Twinkie。 关于您之前的评论,是的,为什么即使是没有孩子或有成年子女的自由主义者也如此渴望好学校? 奇怪的 …

    • 哈哈: kaganovitch
  34. @Anon
    我有一个爱尔兰朋友,他说明了大多数人在使用这些东西时遇到的困难。 我的朋友是一所精英私立高中的老师,拥有一所好大学的经济学学位,我猜他表面上很聪明。 我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。

    我试图解释足球队实际上是 相反 他声称,这是对爱尔兰的一种误导和扭曲的表述,使这个国家看起来像是 30% 的黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。

    没关系。 我对人口现实的无私应用只是一只耳朵进了另一只耳朵。 他根本无法理解我的意思。 他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动,只是认为他们需要随处可见。

    同样令人好奇的是,过去半个世纪以来主导美国意识的黑白种族二分法甚至迁移到了英国和爱尔兰。 没有人关心东亚或南亚人在我们的屏幕和运动队中是看不见的。 黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。 在许多西方话语中,反种族主义仅仅意味着给黑人机会和免费的东西。

    回复:@Bardon Kaldian、@Achmed E. Newman、@Alec Leamas(在家工作)、@Anonymous、@AnotherDad

    哈。 你 93% 的数字是我前几天碰巧查到的。 然而,该国只有 83%(维基说)是爱尔兰人,因为 10% 是来自东欧的白人。 现在这比他们来自尼日利亚、巴基斯坦或其他地方要好得多,当然……我的帖子以基尔肯尼郡城堡的一张照片开头,其中一些当地年轻的穆斯林女士正在学习:

    一个人的家就是他的城堡 是那个帖子的标题——几周前我们在这个国家。

    • 回复: @Anon
    @艾希迈德·纽曼(Achmed E.Newman)

    写得真好,谢谢。

    我现在已经接受了大规模移民和全球化的现实,但即使这个国家被乌克兰人和波兰人淹没,他们的孩子也将比尼日利亚人和巴基斯坦人更容易同化。 由于生物遗传现实在起作用(即,他们在钟形曲线左侧的位置),他们被保证始终处于社会经济阶梯的低端,因此他们的后代将永远怀恨在心并导致社会分裂。

    允许进入第三世界不仅是短期的灾难,而且至少在未来千年内会招致灾难。

  35. @Anon
    @约翰尼·沃克123


    我注意到,如果你提到黑人暴力,自由主义者最初会被冒犯。 在你引用了一些统计数据和来源之后,他们就会安静下来,不要说太多。
     
    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?

    回复:@JohnnyWalker123,@anon

  36. @International Jew
    @罗斯

    What is "Library Genesis" and how does it work? Will it allow me to see this book without paying the $45 Amazon charges for it?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross, @Tristero

    “bee dash OK dot kaum”或“gen dot line dot rus dot ec”可以让您获得书籍,无需订阅或会员费。

    • 回复: @J.Ross
    @罗斯

    Line should be lib. Gen dot lib dot rus dot ec. Not sure how that happened. But you should be able to search for it anyway.

  37. @Anon
    @约翰尼·沃克123


    我注意到,如果你提到黑人暴力,自由主义者最初会被冒犯。 在你引用了一些统计数据和来源之后,他们就会安静下来,不要说太多。
     
    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?

    回复:@JohnnyWalker123,@anon

    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?

    尽管大多数图书馆都不受这些事实的影响,但我最喜欢的统计数据之一是跨种族暴力犯罪率。 事实证明,黑人攻击白人比白人攻击黑人要多得多。 在过去几年中,典型的数字是黑人对白人实施了大约 500,000 次暴力袭击,而白人对黑人实施了大约 50,000 次暴力袭击。 这个 10 倍的差异很高,但是当你考虑到人口中大约有 1/5 的黑人这一事实时,黑人攻击白人的总体比率几乎比白人攻击黑人的比率高 5000%。

    这也意味着在美国,每 60 秒就有一名黑人强奸、抢劫、袭击或杀害一名白人。 你在新闻上见过多少这样的罪行?

    • 回复: @David In TN
    @匿名

    A point I've made before is that with the sole exception of the O.J. Simpson farce, no black on white murder has ever become a National Morality Play such as Scott-Laci Peterson and Casey Anthony.

    And the MSM's Simpson coverage favored the defense, picked away at the prosecution and for the most part approved the verdict.

    回复:@Art Deco

    , @James Speaks
    @匿名

    You Tube would offer a solution except … You Tube wokeness precludes this.

    , @Curle
    @匿名

    The disparities have been around for a long time:

    “Yet it was a fact universally acknowledged, even among the friends of the race, that the escaped slaves who moved into the southern tier of Pennsylvania counties were notoriously criminal. One report statewide showed the black population ratio at 1:33 and the black crime rate at 1:3. Furthermore, of black criminals, some 66.3 percent had come from slave states. Apologists cited the want of education and work opportunities, as well as the temptations of liquor, all of which certainly contributed to these deplorable statistics.”

    “In some years the black crime rate was four times that of whites. Based on the records of the Eastern State Penitentiary, for the seven years before 1837, blacks committed 36 percent of the criminal acts in Philadelphia, at a time when they represented 9 percent of the city's population. These figures continued at about the same rate over the next ten years and showed only slight improvement up to the Civil War. “

    http://slavenorth.com/pennrace.htm

  38. @R.G. Camara
    I suspect they don't think of it that much. And if they do, they believe its the ratio seen on network TV.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @AnotherDad

    电视领域的很大一部分是日期线和宫廷电视,典型的节目记录了一个白人男子谋杀他的妻子并试图摆脱它,如果不是因为一个勇敢的姐姐的坚持,他会这样做 -谁说服当局他做的? 人们会认为白人对白人的暴力犯罪是一种名副其实的流行病。

    但剩下的大部分电视领域都是少数族裔演员,电视广告中几乎没有人不是来自传统上代表性不足的群体?

    种族平等会在什么时候要求日期线和法院电视台关注更多非白人谋杀案?

    • 回复: @Rob McX
    @问心

    我经常看视频 日期变更线,48 小时等等。就我个人而言,我更喜欢看白人谋杀白人的案件。 吸引人的地方之一是,罪犯通常是您从未想过会杀死任何人的人,例如一个安静的郊区家庭主妇,她毒害了她的丈夫。

    另一方面,无论是针对同族裔还是其他种族,黑人暴力都是令人沮丧的单调和可预测的。 它通常是毫无意义和野蛮的,而 perp 正是你所期望的。

    如果您喜欢对黑人暴力进行准确描述的真人秀节目,我建议您观看 第48章. 我看了几集,但就像一遍又一遍地看同一个节目。 愚蠢的人进行毫无意义的野蛮谋杀和袭击。

    回复:@Art Deco

  39. @J.Ross
    We should begin to compile "mugged by truth" accounts, redpilled books by classic 60s liberals forced to admit to horror. You have probably seen 埃尔北或半身像,其中一位左翼社会学家承认,许多中美洲人是他们自己财富的创造者,并且是无可辩驳的可怕人。 Anon 现在引起了我们的注意 留在罗斯代尔, a 1998 account of a small white Texas town devastated by diversity. It's on Library Genesis. A book by Derb or the like might be dismissed because of the author, but there are other authors.

    摘抄:

    1982 年的威尔丁事件
    1989 年,一群纽约青年在中央公园袭击并差点杀死一名女慢跑者后,“狂野”一词成为流行词汇的一部分。 这些青少年告诉警方,打野是该市年轻人众所周知的消遣方式。 正如参与其中的纽约青年所使用的那样,这个词意味着像一群野生动物一样四处奔跑,表现出最基本和最暴力的倾向。 早在纽约市事件震惊全国之前,Rosedale 的年轻人就已经参与了疯狂的暴力活动。
     
    Anon 表示:

    He goes on to describe a series of brutal rapes, murders, robberies and home invasions committed against white elders by black teens. It's mind-boggling once you realize that this exact pattern of crime was happening in every major US city that experienced significant black in-migration in the 60s and 70s. You can find the full book it on Library Genesis.

    Get all your "urbanist" friends to read this book. Without saying it out loud, get them to see that there is a consistent (at least 50 years) pattern of black gang crimes in every city and every country in the world where blacks live in large numbers. The pattern is there. Even the author, a cuck liberal social studies professor at the University of Louisville, couldn't ignore it when he saw it with his own eyes.
     

    Replies: @International Jew, @Cutter, @LP5

    我记得 Rosewood 的 Twitter 帖子。 我把它寄给了前卫,他不在乎。 他们中的大多数都没有。

    • 回复: @Harry Baldwin
    @刀具

    Exactly. If you are engaged in the fool's errand of arguing politics with a progressive and he asks for some evidence supporting facts you are presenting that he has never seen in the NYT or heard on NPR, and you supply him with that evidence, he'll just shrug. It won't change his mind. As Jonathan Swift noted, "It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."

  40. 我觉得几年前皮尤的一项民意调查要求美国人猜测同性恋者占人口的百分比,平均百分比约为 20%。 与犯罪一样,我们的媒体和娱乐机构极力歪曲公众的看法。

    • 同意: The Wild Geese Howard
  41. 我认为低估黑人犯罪不成比例的一个因素是,很多人严重高估了美国人口中黑人的比例。 IIRC,黑人自己估计他们占美国人口的 40%,这使得黑人在精英机构和政府中的比例即使是比例也似乎是一种剥夺。 我认为所有其他人口统计数据也倾向于同样高估黑人的比例。

    如果您认为黑人占人口的 40%,那么黑人犯下 50% 的暴力犯罪是不成比例的,但也许并没有那么多,以至于它可以证明对许多人来说坦率地谈论它会造成社会混乱。 10% 的溢价可能是由于贫困或种族歧视造成的,这甚至是合理的。 然后,您可以将头缩回一个洞中,继续您的日常生活,而不会打扰您。

    但当然,黑人只占人口的 12-13%,而作为暴力犯罪的明星,黑人中的人口是十几岁到四十多岁的男性,这可能是美国总人口的 4% 或 5%,犯罪率超过 50%谋杀、强奸、持械抢劫等暴力犯罪。

    • 回复: @Joe Magarac
    @Alec Leamas(在家工作)


    IIRC,黑人自己估计他们占美国人口的 40%,这使得黑人在精英机构和政府中的比例什至看起来像是一种剥夺
     
    40% 大约适合芝加哥。 大多数黑人都不知道这个国家是什么样的。 这也适用于大城市的大多数白人。

    回复:@ Guest007

  42. @Anon
    我有一个爱尔兰朋友,他说明了大多数人在使用这些东西时遇到的困难。 我的朋友是一所精英私立高中的老师,拥有一所好大学的经济学学位,我猜他表面上很聪明。 我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。

    我试图解释足球队实际上是 相反 他声称,这是对爱尔兰的一种误导和扭曲的表述,使这个国家看起来像是 30% 的黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。

    没关系。 我对人口现实的无私应用只是一只耳朵进了另一只耳朵。 他根本无法理解我的意思。 他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动,只是认为他们需要随处可见。

    同样令人好奇的是,过去半个世纪以来主导美国意识的黑白种族二分法甚至迁移到了英国和爱尔兰。 没有人关心东亚或南亚人在我们的屏幕和运动队中是看不见的。 黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。 在许多西方话语中,反种族主义仅仅意味着给黑人机会和免费的东西。

    回复:@Bardon Kaldian、@Achmed E. Newman、@Alec Leamas(在家工作)、@Anonymous、@AnotherDad

    我试图解释说,足球队实际上与他所声称的相反,这是对爱尔兰的误导和歪曲,让人觉得这个国家有 30% 是黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。

    矛盾的是,在爱尔兰和不列颠群岛,橄榄球这种更加暴力的运动是收费私立学校的上层阶级的运动,而足球是下层阶级青睐的运动。

    爱尔兰第一个 XV 有外国血统的球员 - 西蒙泽博和 Bundee Aki 浮现在脑海中。 但橄榄球运动员往往是精英私立教育机构的产品,即使球员有外国血统——你更有可能从肯尼亚得到一个外国血统的球员,他在那里的一所私立学校接受橄榄球训练是让一个来自低经济地位的土生土长的黑人孩子打高水平的橄榄球。 因此,IRFU 双方通常是少数几所男子橄榄球强队学校的毕业生,这些学校大多位于伦斯特和明斯特。

    但否则你是对的。 我在 1990 年代住在都柏林,你真的不会看到看起来不像爱尔兰人的人——如果你看到了,他们是都柏林南部大使馆附近的私立学校的孩子,或者可能是外交官或附属于有爱尔兰存在的外国雇主。 它真的变了,而且没有变好。

    • 同意: Rob McX
    • 回复: @International Jew
    @Alec Leamas(在家工作)

    这个“橄榄球联盟”是一个职业联赛吗?也就是说,一个人能赚很多钱吗? 由于橄榄球类似于美式橄榄球,我预计黑人最终也会主宰它,只要有足够的经济激励。

  43. 有许多统计数据属于大多数美国人无法猜测的类别。

    1. 有多少美国人知道公立学校的非西班牙裔白人不到 50%,而超过 50% 的人吃免费午餐。
    2. 有多少美国人知道 2019 年的高中毕业率是美洲原住民 74.3%,黑人/非裔美国人 79.6%,西班牙裔 81.7%,白人 89.4%,亚裔学生 92.6%。
    3. 有多少美国人知道 70% 的黑人孩子是未婚母亲所生。 真正说明这一点的是有多少人说黑人孩子好像家里有父母。
    4. 有多少美国人知道美国有 12.4% 的黑人和 18.7% 的西班牙裔。 如果一个人看电视、电影、体育节目,就会大大高估黑人的数量,而低估西班牙裔的数量。

    • 同意: Achmed E. Newman
    • 谢谢: Joe Magarac
    • 回复: @ForeverCARealist
    @嘉宾007

    我女儿是洛杉矶郊区的钢琴老师。 如果你问她,她会说加利福尼亚的人口是 100% 的亚裔。

    回复:@Brutusale

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @嘉宾007

    2019 年的高中毕业率为美洲原住民 74.3%,黑人/非裔美国人 79.6%,西班牙裔 81.7%,

    甚至这些数字也被社会提升的做法夸大了——不管他们是否学到了必要的材料,或者他们是否经常缺席,他们都会将他们提升到下一个年级。

    回复:@Arclight,@Rob McX

  44. @Clyde
    In my mind, the average "good schools" suburb that liberals love is very non-diverse as far as blacks. A black family might be OK, but then their bad juju relatives come to visit and case the neighborhood. My breakdown for the average "good schools" libby suburb is 65% white, 30% Asian, 5% white Hispanic.

    回复:@Alec Leamas(在家工作)

    在我看来,自由主义者喜欢的普通“好学校”郊区就黑人而言非常不多样化。 一个黑人家庭可能还好,但随后他们的坏 juju 亲戚来拜访并调查附近的情况。 我对利比郊区平均“好学校”的细分是 65% 的白人、30% 的亚裔、5% 的西班牙裔白人。

    午餐生活的自由派女士所居住的郊区具有多样性——能够在这些郊区买房并缴纳学校税的黑人是预先选择的,因为他们的气质是平等的。 每隔一段时间,那个盒子外面的人就会设法进入并导致问题 - 我记得艾伦艾弗森在格拉德温买了一座豪宅并表现得像艾伦艾弗森一样 - 兄弟来来去去等等。他在邻居中不受欢迎在那个时期。

  45. 有没有调查过这个问题?

    讨论杀戮率的调查的切入点应该从讨论战斗或逃跑反应中基于种族的差异开始。

    • 回复: @Lockean Proviso
    @詹姆斯讲

    Regarding the same, discussion should also include data on racial differences in having a complete lack of any genes coding for MAO inhibitor production, a strong predictor of impulsive violence that is much more prevalent in blacks than in whites or Asians.

    回复:@James讲话

  46. @Achmed E. Newman
    @阿农

    Ha. Your 93% number was one I happend to have looked up the other day. Only 83% (wiki says) of the country is Irish however, as 10% are White people from eastern Europe. Now that's a hell of a lot better than their being from Nigeria, Pakistan or whatever, of course ... my post started with a picture at the castle in County Kilkenny, in which some local young Moslem ladies were studying on the grounds:

    A man's home is his castle is the title of said post - we were in the country a few weeks back.

    回复:@Anon

    写得真好,谢谢。

    我现在已经接受了大规模移民和全球化的现实,但即使这个国家被乌克兰人和波兰人淹没,他们的孩子也将比尼日利亚人和巴基斯坦人更容易同化。 由于生物遗传现实在起作用(即,他们在钟形曲线左侧的位置),他们被保证始终处于社会经济阶梯的低端,因此他们的后代将永远怀恨在心并导致社会分裂。

    允许进入第三世界不仅是短期的灾难,而且至少在未来千年内会招致灾难。

    • 同意: Achmed E. Newman
  47. @IHTG
    @约翰尼·沃克123


    保守派(在某种程度上是温和派)会点头,然后提到“PC警察”如何不再让我们进行诚实的对话。 有时,他们会同意,但随后会提出他们喜欢的黑人保守派(克拉伦斯·托马斯、本·卡森、拉里·埃尔德等)。
     
    Well, why shouldn't they? Those are people who they like.

    Crime is an all too human phenomenon and the problems of black Americans are human ones. I think the main problem with "race relations" in America is the tendency on all sides to view the disparity between whites and blacks as a difference of kind rather than a difference of degree. The inability to view blacks as just extra-rowdy people, instead of as a species of bizarre violent aliens that requires either coddling or extermination, is literally destroying your civilization.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes, @Gabe Ruth

    希望他们在你的表演试验中看到这一点,兄弟。

    听起来不错,但更准确的问题是溺爱一方已经占据主导地位,具有讽刺意味的是,由于基于伤害的道德的优势,现在提倡人类正派和一致性的人被称为灭绝主义者,几乎完全正确就像你在这里发表你的冷嘲热讽一样。

    • 回复: @IHTG
    @加布·露丝


    It sounds nice, but a more accurate statement of the problem would be that the party of coddling has become dominant
     
    Yeah they have, they're definitely a far bigger problem!
  48. “西班牙裔”(不是种族)介于两者之间。

    如果西班牙裔类别按种族划分,我强烈怀疑谋杀统计数据与其他群体的情况非常相似。

    但我们永远无法真正知道,因为这是完全禁止的。

    • 回复: @Steve Sailer
    @乔·玛加拉克(Joe Magarac)

    您可以查看不同州的西班牙裔:例如,康涅狄格西班牙裔是(或曾经是)严重的波多黎各人。

    回复:@J.Ross、@Joe Magarac、@Jim Bob Lassiter

  49. I would have thought 7X, but I’ll go with 10.

  50. @Guest007
    有许多统计数据属于大多数美国人无法猜测的类别。

    1. 有多少美国人知道公立学校的非西班牙裔白人不到 50%,而超过 50% 的人吃免费午餐。
    2. 有多少美国人知道 2019 年的高中毕业率是美洲原住民 74.3%,黑人/非裔美国人 79.6%,西班牙裔 81.7%,白人 89.4%,亚裔学生 92.6%。
    3. 有多少美国人知道 70% 的黑人孩子是未婚母亲所生。 真正说明这一点的是有多少人说黑人孩子好像家里有父母。
    4. 有多少美国人知道美国有 12.4% 的黑人和 18.7% 的西班牙裔。 如果一个人看电视、电影、体育节目,就会大大高估黑人的数量,而低估西班牙裔的数量。

    回复:@ForeverCARealist,@Harry Baldwin

    我女儿是洛杉矶郊区的钢琴老师。 如果你问她,她会说加利福尼亚的人口是 100% 的亚裔。

    • 哈哈: theMann
    • 回复: @Brutusale
    @ForeverCARealist

    我的弦乐老师嫂子会告诉你佛罗里达州温特帕克周围地区的相同情况。 带着一点点的想法。

  51. @Joe Magarac
    “西班牙裔”(不是种族)介于两者之间。

    如果西班牙裔类别按种族划分,我强烈怀疑谋杀统计数据与其他群体的情况非常相似。

    但我们永远无法真正知道,因为这是完全禁止的。

    回复:@Steve Sailer

    您可以查看不同州的西班牙裔:例如,康涅狄格西班牙裔是(或曾经是)严重的波多黎各人。

    • 同意: Joe Magarac
    • 回复: @J.Ross
    @史蒂夫·塞勒

    康涅狄格州的波多黎各人是不是几乎没有遇到麻烦并省钱的纽约里安人?

    回复:@Steve Sailer

    , @Joe Magarac
    @史蒂夫·塞勒

    当我在 1960 年代长大时,在纽约市,“三个种族”是白人、黑人和波多黎各人。

    当然,波多黎各人虽然是一种可识别的类型,但在种族上并不是同质的。

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @史蒂夫·塞勒

    还有巴西人。

  52. @J.Ross
    We should begin to compile "mugged by truth" accounts, redpilled books by classic 60s liberals forced to admit to horror. You have probably seen 埃尔北或半身像,其中一位左翼社会学家承认,许多中美洲人是他们自己财富的创造者,并且是无可辩驳的可怕人。 Anon 现在引起了我们的注意 留在罗斯代尔, a 1998 account of a small white Texas town devastated by diversity. It's on Library Genesis. A book by Derb or the like might be dismissed because of the author, but there are other authors.

    摘抄:

    1982 年的威尔丁事件
    1989 年,一群纽约青年在中央公园袭击并差点杀死一名女慢跑者后,“狂野”一词成为流行词汇的一部分。 这些青少年告诉警方,打野是该市年轻人众所周知的消遣方式。 正如参与其中的纽约青年所使用的那样,这个词意味着像一群野生动物一样四处奔跑,表现出最基本和最暴力的倾向。 早在纽约市事件震惊全国之前,Rosedale 的年轻人就已经参与了疯狂的暴力活动。
     
    Anon 表示:

    He goes on to describe a series of brutal rapes, murders, robberies and home invasions committed against white elders by black teens. It's mind-boggling once you realize that this exact pattern of crime was happening in every major US city that experienced significant black in-migration in the 60s and 70s. You can find the full book it on Library Genesis.

    Get all your "urbanist" friends to read this book. Without saying it out loud, get them to see that there is a consistent (at least 50 years) pattern of black gang crimes in every city and every country in the world where blacks live in large numbers. The pattern is there. Even the author, a cuck liberal social studies professor at the University of Louisville, couldn't ignore it when he saw it with his own eyes.
     

    Replies: @International Jew, @Cutter, @LP5

    J. Ross writes about:

    “mugged by truth” accounts

    One way to assess the policy arc for large urban area social issues is through the Kübler-Ross 5-step method.

    1. Shock or denial
    2。 愤怒
    3.讨价还价
    4。 萧条
    5。 验收

    Or just relocate when able.

  53. @Steve Sailer
    @乔·玛加拉克(Joe Magarac)

    您可以查看不同州的西班牙裔:例如,康涅狄格西班牙裔是(或曾经是)严重的波多黎各人。

    回复:@J.Ross、@Joe Magarac、@Jim Bob Lassiter

    康涅狄格州的波多黎各人是不是几乎没有遇到麻烦并省钱的纽约里安人?

    • 哈哈: Ghost of Bull Moose
    • 回复: @Steve Sailer
    @罗斯

    They pretty much wiped out Hartford, which once was the epitome of WASP probity but you never hear of it anymore.

    回复:@Harry Baldwin

  54. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    我认为低估黑人犯罪不成比例的一个因素是,很多人严重高估了美国人口中黑人的比例。 IIRC,黑人自己估计他们占美国人口的 40%,这使得黑人在精英机构和政府中的比例即使是比例也似乎是一种剥夺。 我认为所有其他人口统计数据也倾向于同样高估黑人的比例。

    如果您认为黑人占人口的 40%,那么黑人犯下 50% 的暴力犯罪是不成比例的,但也许并没有那么多,以至于它可以证明对许多人来说坦率地谈论它会造成社会混乱。 10% 的溢价可能是由于贫困或种族歧视造成的,这甚至是合理的。 然后,您可以将头缩回一个洞中,继续您的日常生活,而不会打扰您。

    但当然,黑人只占人口的 12-13%,而作为暴力犯罪的明星,黑人中的人口是十几岁到四十多岁的男性,这可能是美国总人口的 4% 或 5%,犯罪率超过 50%谋杀、强奸、持械抢劫等暴力犯罪。

    回复:@Joe Magarac

    IIRC,黑人自己估计他们占美国人口的 40%,这使得黑人在精英机构和政府中的比例什至看起来像是一种剥夺

    40% 大约适合芝加哥。 大多数黑人都不知道这个国家是什么样的。 这也适用于大城市的大多数白人。

    • 回复: @Guest007
    @乔·玛加拉克(Joe Magarac)

    芝加哥实际上不到 30% 的黑人,但只有 28% 的拉丁裔和 33% 的白人。

  55. @Steve Sailer
    @乔·玛加拉克(Joe Magarac)

    您可以查看不同州的西班牙裔:例如,康涅狄格西班牙裔是(或曾经是)严重的波多黎各人。

    回复:@J.Ross、@Joe Magarac、@Jim Bob Lassiter

    当我在 1960 年代长大时,在纽约市,“三个种族”是白人、黑人和波多黎各人。

    当然,波多黎各人虽然是一种可识别的类型,但在种族上并不是同质的。

    • 同意: Prester John
  56. Americans have been misinformed on this issue for many years, but that’s the good kind of misinformation (the kind that isn’t true.) only bad misinformation is true.

  57. @J.Ross
    @国际犹太人

    "bee dash okay dot kaum" or "gen dot line dot rus dot ec" can get you books without a subscription or membership fee.

    回复:@ J.Ross

    Line should be lib. Gen dot lib dot rus dot ec. Not sure how that happened. But you should be able to search for it anyway.

  58. @J.Ross
    @史蒂夫·塞勒

    康涅狄格州的波多黎各人是不是几乎没有遇到麻烦并省钱的纽约里安人?

    回复:@Steve Sailer

    They pretty much wiped out Hartford, which once was the epitome of WASP probity but you never hear of it anymore.

    • 回复: @Harry Baldwin
    @史蒂夫·塞勒

    Hartford: 44.69% Latino

    New Britain: 42.7% Latino

    Bridgeport: 42% Latino

    Waterbury: 36.65% Latino

    Bridgeport, Hartford, and Waterbury are among the five largest cities in the state, all have a population over 100,000. There are a lot of Latinos in CT.

    回复:@Prester John,@Brutusale

  59. @Anon
    我有一个爱尔兰朋友,他说明了大多数人在使用这些东西时遇到的困难。 我的朋友是一所精英私立高中的老师,拥有一所好大学的经济学学位,我猜他表面上很聪明。 我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。

    我试图解释足球队实际上是 相反 他声称,这是对爱尔兰的一种误导和扭曲的表述,使这个国家看起来像是 30% 的黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。

    没关系。 我对人口现实的无私应用只是一只耳朵进了另一只耳朵。 他根本无法理解我的意思。 他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动,只是认为他们需要随处可见。

    同样令人好奇的是,过去半个世纪以来主导美国意识的黑白种族二分法甚至迁移到了英国和爱尔兰。 没有人关心东亚或南亚人在我们的屏幕和运动队中是看不见的。 黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。 在许多西方话语中,反种族主义仅仅意味着给黑人机会和免费的东西。

    回复:@Bardon Kaldian、@Achmed E. Newman、@Alec Leamas(在家工作)、@Anonymous、@AnotherDad

    It’s also curious that the black-white racial dichotomy that has dominated the American consciousness for the last half century has migrated even to the UK and Ireland;

    Good correlation between the domination that you mention and the post-WW II domination of Europe by the US Federal Government.

    There is a good deal of resentment of US domination in Europe, more now that US “sanctions” are destroying the European economy, causing an African famine that will drive yet another wave of African migrants into Europe, and at least threatening spillover of yet another conventional mechanized war into Eastern and Northern Europe.

    Should Europe cut its ties with the US, something that is possible because of heightened European resentment of US forced policies, and an intense domestic politics dispute in the US, Europe might reverse many of the present US enforced policies, and do so quickly.
    4th quarter 2022 seems the most likely time for such a cut, as cold weather, African migration, and short term US political conflict will reach peak salience for US and Europe during that time interval.

  60. @anon
    @阿农


    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?
     
    尽管大多数图书馆都不受这些事实的影响,但我最喜欢的统计数据之一是跨种族暴力犯罪率。 事实证明,黑人攻击白人比白人攻击黑人要多得多。 在过去几年中,典型的数字是黑人对白人实施了大约 500,000 次暴力袭击,而白人对黑人实施了大约 50,000 次暴力袭击。 这个 10 倍的差异很高,但是当你考虑到人口中大约有 1/5 的黑人这一事实时,黑人攻击白人的总体比率几乎比白人攻击黑人的比率高 5000%。

    这也意味着在美国,每 60 秒就有一名黑人强奸、抢劫、袭击或杀害一名白人。 你在新闻上见过多少这样的罪行?

    Replies: @David In TN, @James Speaks, @Curle

    A point I’ve made before is that with the sole exception of the O.J. Simpson farce, no black on white murder has ever become a National Morality Play such as Scott-Laci Peterson and Casey Anthony.

    And the MSM’s Simpson coverage favored the defense, picked away at the prosecution and for the most part approved the verdict.

    • 回复: @Art Deco
    @大卫在田纳西州

    If you say so. My recollection is that 纽约 magazine published a post-mortem which cut Simpson, his admirers, and the jury to ribbons. Steven Brill sliced up Marcia Clark ("She spent days questioning witnesses on whom she should have spent an hour..") and others took Lance Ito to task. Stanley Crouch was one of the few common-and-garden figures I can recall defending the verdict. (His argument was that the chain-of-custody deficits in re the forensic evidence made the prosecution case crucially dependent on the oral testimony of Mark Fuhrman, a man that jury would never trust; Fuhrman maintained Marcia Clark could have called his partner to the stand in his stead but refused to do so for some inane reason).

    回复:@David In TN

  61. @Cutter
    @罗斯

    I remember the Rosewood Twitter thread. I sent it to a prog and he didn't care. Most of them don't.

    回复:@Harry Baldwin

    Exactly. If you are engaged in the fool’s errand of arguing politics with a progressive and he asks for some evidence supporting facts you are presenting that he has never seen in the NYT or heard on NPR, and you supply him with that evidence, he’ll just shrug. It won’t change his mind. As Jonathan Swift noted, “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”

  62. @Guest007
    有许多统计数据属于大多数美国人无法猜测的类别。

    1. 有多少美国人知道公立学校的非西班牙裔白人不到 50%,而超过 50% 的人吃免费午餐。
    2. 有多少美国人知道 2019 年的高中毕业率是美洲原住民 74.3%,黑人/非裔美国人 79.6%,西班牙裔 81.7%,白人 89.4%,亚裔学生 92.6%。
    3. 有多少美国人知道 70% 的黑人孩子是未婚母亲所生。 真正说明这一点的是有多少人说黑人孩子好像家里有父母。
    4. 有多少美国人知道美国有 12.4% 的黑人和 18.7% 的西班牙裔。 如果一个人看电视、电影、体育节目,就会大大高估黑人的数量,而低估西班牙裔的数量。

    回复:@ForeverCARealist,@Harry Baldwin

    2019 年的高中毕业率为美洲原住民 74.3%,黑人/非裔美国人 79.6%,西班牙裔 81.7%,

    And even those figures are inflated by the practice of social promotion–promoting a student to the next grade regardless of if they learned the necessary material or if they are often absent.

    • 回复: @Arclight
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    Indeed. My city's public school system recently reported a rise in graduation rates and the news piece mentioned a variety of things like spending Covid money on tutoring and whatnot before finally noting that the district adopted a new grading system where the lowest score is a 50%. So now all it takes is a couple of assignments or tests where the teacher gives a generous grade and combined with all the previous half credit scores and voila, a combined grade that's enough for passing.

    , @Rob McX
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    There's a sentence that sticks in my mind from an article I read about some urban US high school. It's about a black pupil, I forget which grade: "He never graduated to this grade, but he had to be promoted because he became too big for the seats in his old grade".

  63. @Steve Sailer
    @罗斯

    They pretty much wiped out Hartford, which once was the epitome of WASP probity but you never hear of it anymore.

    回复:@Harry Baldwin

    Hartford: 44.69% Latino

    New Britain: 42.7% Latino

    Bridgeport: 42% Latino

    Waterbury: 36.65% Latino

    Bridgeport, Hartford, and Waterbury are among the five largest cities in the state, all have a population over 100,000. There are a lot of Latinos in CT.

    • 回复: @Prester John
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    And CT (where I live) has the largest Puerto Rican population in the US.

    , @Brutusale
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    Be they black or Hispanic, Connecticut has the highest murder rate in New England.

  64. 我希望英格兰米德萨默的人们在还有时间的时候得到你!

    • 哈哈: AnotherDad
    • 回复: @Rob McX
    @山羊草

    问题会自行解决。 他们中的一半最终将被谋杀,另一半因杀害他们而入狱。 可能是购买房产的好地方。

  65. @Gabe Ruth
    @IHTG

    希望他们在你的表演试验中看到这一点,兄弟。

    听起来不错,但更准确的问题是溺爱一方已经占据主导地位,具有讽刺意味的是,由于基于伤害的道德的优势,现在提倡人类正派和一致性的人被称为灭绝主义者,几乎完全正确就像你在这里发表你的冷嘲热讽一样。

    回复:@IHTG

    It sounds nice, but a more accurate statement of the problem would be that the party of coddling has become dominant

    Yeah they have, they’re definitely a far bigger problem!

  66. @SOL
    法律与秩序的比例是多少?

    回复:@Rich

    I haven’t seen a lot of Law and Order, but what I have seen, the ratio is 100% White criminals with the occasional coloured victim.

  67. I think Jared Taylor has done the maths on all this and reckons that blacks commit murder (and most other crimes) at around 12 times the rate of non-H whites. If someone wanted to do the stats, there’s also the data out for the UK, a report called Race and the Criminal Justice System in 2016. This would be really interesting, if it showed similar rates in the US and the UK among different ethnic groups, regardless of history, slavery etc.

  68. @Harry Baldwin
    @嘉宾007

    2019 年的高中毕业率为美洲原住民 74.3%,黑人/非裔美国人 79.6%,西班牙裔 81.7%,

    甚至这些数字也被社会提升的做法夸大了——不管他们是否学到了必要的材料,或者他们是否经常缺席,他们都会将他们提升到下一个年级。

    回复:@Arclight,@Rob McX

    Indeed. My city’s public school system recently reported a rise in graduation rates and the news piece mentioned a variety of things like spending Covid money on tutoring and whatnot before finally noting that the district adopted a new grading system where the lowest score is a 50%. So now all it takes is a couple of assignments or tests where the teacher gives a generous grade and combined with all the previous half credit scores and voila, a combined grade that’s enough for passing.

  69. @David In TN
    @匿名

    A point I've made before is that with the sole exception of the O.J. Simpson farce, no black on white murder has ever become a National Morality Play such as Scott-Laci Peterson and Casey Anthony.

    And the MSM's Simpson coverage favored the defense, picked away at the prosecution and for the most part approved the verdict.

    回复:@Art Deco

    If you say so. My recollection is that 纽约 magazine published a post-mortem which cut Simpson, his admirers, and the jury to ribbons. Steven Brill sliced up Marcia Clark (“She spent days questioning witnesses on whom she should have spent an hour..”) and others took Lance Ito to task. Stanley Crouch was one of the few common-and-garden figures I can recall defending the verdict. (His argument was that the chain-of-custody deficits in re the forensic evidence made the prosecution case crucially dependent on the oral testimony of Mark Fuhrman, a man that jury would never trust; Fuhrman maintained Marcia Clark could have called his partner to the stand in his stead but refused to do so for some inane reason).

    • 回复: @David In TN
    @艺术装饰

    There was a lot of "now white people know how black people have felt all these years" commentary.

    Yes, there was more criticism of the prosecution during the trial than agreement with the verdict. Jeffrey Toobin wrote in his book on the trial how he and his colleagues were afraid of "being racist" and never wrote "the evidence against Simpson was simply overwhelming."

    The plaintiffs' attorneys in the wrongful death civil suit against Simpson cut Fuhrman out of the case completely. And put on more evidence than the prosecution had in the criminal trial. Daniel Petrocelli, the attorney for the Goldmans, expressed surprise in his book at the evidence Marcia Clark left out.

  70. @Inquiring Mind
    @RG卡马拉

    电视领域的很大一部分是日期线和宫廷电视,典型的节目记录了一个白人男子谋杀他的妻子并试图摆脱它,如果不是因为一个勇敢的姐姐的坚持,他会这样做 -谁说服当局他做的? 人们会认为白人对白人的暴力犯罪是一种名副其实的流行病。

    但剩下的大部分电视领域都是少数族裔演员,电视广告中几乎没有人不是来自传统上代表性不足的群体?

    种族平等会在什么时候要求日期线和法院电视台关注更多非白人谋杀案?

    回复:@Rob McX

    我经常看视频 日期变更线,48 小时等等。就我个人而言,我更喜欢看白人谋杀白人的案件。 吸引人的地方之一是,罪犯通常是您从未想过会杀死任何人的人,例如一个安静的郊区家庭主妇,她毒害了她的丈夫。

    另一方面,无论是针对同族裔还是其他种族,黑人暴力都是令人沮丧的单调和可预测的。 它通常是毫无意义和野蛮的,而 perp 正是你所期望的。

    如果您喜欢对黑人暴力进行准确描述的真人秀节目,我建议您观看 第48章. 我看了几集,但就像一遍又一遍地看同一个节目。 愚蠢的人进行毫无意义的野蛮谋杀和袭击。

    • 回复: @Art Deco
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    日界线48小时 是从少数几起凶杀案中选出的,这些凶杀案是(1)有预谋的,(2)以富裕的人杀害其他富裕的人为特征。 当交易双方的人都没有远高于社会阶层的中位数时,这是不寻常的。 在截至 16,000 年平均每年发生的 2014 起凶杀案中,刚好够为这些节目充当剧本素材。 还不够,因为他们必须填充脚本以使案例看起来比以前更具挑战性。

    像这样的程序 法证文件 专注于通过法医证据解决的案件,因此得到了更多样化的肇事者和受害者。 它仍然有偏见,因为它由已解决的凶杀案组成,其中不包括大约 2/3 发生在贫民窟居民中的凶杀案,但确实包括了大约 90% 的贫民窟以外的凶杀案。 偏见的另一个来源是,这些叙述仅限于那些犯罪者和受害者社交圈中的人的陈述不是决定性的案例。

    凶杀猎人 专注于由一个城市的警察部门解决的案件,该城市几乎涵盖了其所在县的所有区域发展,因此贫民窟凶杀案的叙述比通常情况下更少(但确实包括大量案件汤姆沃尔夫的角色被称为“另一个布朗克斯的狗屎”)。

  71. @Harry Baldwin
    @嘉宾007

    2019 年的高中毕业率为美洲原住民 74.3%,黑人/非裔美国人 79.6%,西班牙裔 81.7%,

    甚至这些数字也被社会提升的做法夸大了——不管他们是否学到了必要的材料,或者他们是否经常缺席,他们都会将他们提升到下一个年级。

    回复:@Arclight,@Rob McX

    从我读到的一篇关于美国某城市高中的文章中,有一句话让我印象深刻。 讲的是一个黑人小学生,我忘了是哪个年级的:“他没毕业到这个年级,但他不得不升职,因为他老年级的座位太大了”。

  72. @Goatweed
    我希望英格兰米德萨默的人们在还有时间的时候得到你!

    回复:@Rob McX

    问题会自行解决。 他们中的一半最终将被谋杀,另一半因杀害他们而入狱。 可能是购买房产的好地方。

    • 同意: Goatweed
  73. 大多数白人孩子上公立学校吗?
    他们是否不知何故不知道黑人是响亮的、非理性的、容易暴力的?

    每个人都知道比例是多少,很多人不得不假装不然; 或者将他们自我祝贺的道德主义装扮成一个巨大的谎言。

  74. https://www.takimag.com/article/the-last-living-holocaust-mass-murderer/

    • 回复: @J.Ross
    @MEH 0910

    Power grab? The left is incoherent except when read as projecting.

    , @AnotherDad
    @MEH 0910

    Soros and Gascon. LOL.

    Two more disasters for Americans whom our National Immigration Safety Board should review and kick out.

    , @bispora
    @MEH 0910

    As a Hungarian guy, I must apologize for Schwartz György...

  75. I think “normies” first of all do not want to hear any data of this kind at all. Their news media accommodates them. They probably sense that the races commit crime at a different rate, but since it’s all due to systemic racism and unfair maldistribution of wealth, why would anyone be so revolting as to look seriously at the facts?

  76. @R.G. Camara
    I suspect they don't think of it that much. And if they do, they believe its the ratio seen on network TV.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @AnotherDad

    我怀疑他们并没有想那么多。 如果他们这样做,他们相信这是在网络电视上看到的比例。

    Most people know “black areas are trouble” or something like that.

    “Ratio?” “What’s that?”

    大多数人根本就不是数学思想家。 他们有一些方便的生活规则,但他们根本不像史蒂夫的想法,他们的想法是我的想法。

    Ordinarily, I guess, this would not be a huge problem. Because the leaders of a society, a nation usually do not hate it and wish to destroy it. So the rough ideas people have serve “well enough”. But America has an enormous world penetrating propaganda industry of minoritarian lying.

    So if you aren’t someone with a bullshit detector and a “that doesn’t make sense” or “keep doing that and its trouble” mathematical bent, you end up with your brain being buried in bullshit.

    • 回复: @Thomm
    An


    Most people are simply not mathematical thinkers at all. They have some handy life rules, but they simply do not think the way Steve thinks, they way I think.
     
    LOL. To call Steve a 'mathematical thinker' is a stretch, since even he didn't know what nano, pico, giga, and tera meant until he got called on it two years ago. Even though this could be looked up in a few seconds. It is not just the ignorance, but the blissful incuriosity.

    I agree that Steve is a 'mathematical thinker' relative to WN wiggers that comprise his audience. But that is saying absolutely nothing about absolute mathematical aptitude.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jim, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  77. @Rob McX
    @问心

    我经常看视频 日期变更线,48 小时等等。就我个人而言,我更喜欢看白人谋杀白人的案件。 吸引人的地方之一是,罪犯通常是您从未想过会杀死任何人的人,例如一个安静的郊区家庭主妇,她毒害了她的丈夫。

    另一方面,无论是针对同族裔还是其他种族,黑人暴力都是令人沮丧的单调和可预测的。 它通常是毫无意义和野蛮的,而 perp 正是你所期望的。

    如果您喜欢对黑人暴力进行准确描述的真人秀节目,我建议您观看 第48章. 我看了几集,但就像一遍又一遍地看同一个节目。 愚蠢的人进行毫无意义的野蛮谋杀和袭击。

    回复:@Art Deco

    日界线48小时 是从少数几起凶杀案中选出的,这些凶杀案是(1)有预谋的,(2)以富人杀害其他富人为特征。 当交易双方的人都不远高于社会阶层的中位数时,这是不寻常的。 在截至 16,000 年平均每年发生的 2014 起凶杀案中,刚好够为这些节目充当剧本素材。 还不够,因为他们必须填充脚本以使案例看起来比以前更具挑战性。

    像这样的程序 法证文件 专注于通过法医证据解决的案件,因此得到了更多样化的肇事者和受害者。 它仍然有偏见,因为它由已解决的凶杀案组成,其中不包括大约 2/3 发生在贫民窟居民中的凶杀案,但确实包括了大约 90% 的贫民窟以外的凶杀案。 偏见的另一个来源是,这些叙述仅限于那些犯罪者和受害者社交圈中的人的陈述不是决定性的案例。

    凶杀猎人 专注于由一个城市的警察部门解决的案件,该城市几乎涵盖了其所在县的所有区域发展,因此贫民窟凶杀案的叙述比通常情况下更少(但确实包括大量案件汤姆沃尔夫的角色被称为“另一个布朗克斯的狗屎”)。

    • 同意: Rob McX
  78. I answered 10x higher but that’s based as much on intuition as anything else. For all I know I’m way off. I Googled but never found a straight answer.

    Soooo…what’s the answer?

  79. @Harry Baldwin
    @史蒂夫·塞勒

    Hartford: 44.69% Latino

    New Britain: 42.7% Latino

    Bridgeport: 42% Latino

    Waterbury: 36.65% Latino

    Bridgeport, Hartford, and Waterbury are among the five largest cities in the state, all have a population over 100,000. There are a lot of Latinos in CT.

    回复:@Prester John,@Brutusale

    And CT (where I live) has the largest Puerto Rican population in the US.

  80. @Redneck farmer
    @RegCæsar

    双倍的。 200% 将是三次。

    回复:@RegCæsar

    双倍的。 200% 将是三次。

    200% 更多, 或200% 作为? This isn’t pedantry, it’s simple logic. Imagine these words in a contract. I bet you’d have your attorneys read “2 times higher” differently depending on whether you were the “payer” or the “payee”.

  81. @AnotherDad
    @RG卡马拉


    我怀疑他们并没有想那么多。 如果他们这样做,他们相信这是在网络电视上看到的比例。
     
    大多数人都知道“黑色区域很麻烦”或类似的东西。

    “比率?” “那是什么?”

    大多数人根本就不是数学思想家。 他们有一些方便的生活规则,但他们根本不像史蒂夫的想法,他们的想法是我的想法。

    通常,我想,这不会是一个大问题。 因为一个社会、一个国家的领导者通常不恨它,而是想摧毁它。 因此,人们的粗略想法“足够好”。 但是美国有一个庞大的世界渗透性的少数派谎言宣传产业。

    因此,如果您不是拥有废话检测器并且“没有意义”或“继续这样做会带来麻烦”的数学倾向的人,那么最终您的大脑就会陷入废话。

    回复:@Thomm

    Most people are simply not mathematical thinkers at all. They have some handy life rules, but they simply do not think the way Steve thinks, they way I think.

    LOL. To call Steve a ‘mathematical thinker’ is a stretch, since even he didn’t know what nano, pico, giga, and tera meant until he got called on it two years ago. Even though this could be looked up in a few seconds. It is not just the ignorance, but the blissful incuriosity.

    I agree that Steve is a ‘mathematical thinker’ relative to WN wiggers that comprise his audience. But that is saying absolutely nothing about absolute mathematical aptitude.

    • 回复: @AnotherDad
    @汤姆

    Thomm, your "argument" for why Steve is an inferior mathematical thinker--compared to presumably yourself--consists of
    -- Steve doesn't know some for some things
    -- name calling other commenters.

    回复:@Thomm

    , @Jim
    @汤姆

    Knowing what those words mean has absolutely nothing to do with mathematics. The greatest mathematicians in the world might not know what any of those words mean.

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @汤姆

    Maybe we should ask Jake the Dog and Finn the Human what they mean when they say "Mathematical!"

  82. @Redneck farmer
    Remember folks, black on black crime doesn't count!

    回复:@ Twinkie,@ RegCæsar

    记住,黑人犯罪不算数!

    But it adds up.

    When someone tells you that the factors you cite don’t add up, inform them that factors are not meant to. They up. Or, rather, 下, as you multiply the difference from 1.0.

  83. @Anon
    我有一个爱尔兰朋友,他说明了大多数人在使用这些东西时遇到的困难。 我的朋友是一所精英私立高中的老师,拥有一所好大学的经济学学位,我猜他表面上很聪明。 我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。

    我试图解释足球队实际上是 相反 他声称,这是对爱尔兰的一种误导和扭曲的表述,使这个国家看起来像是 30% 的黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。

    没关系。 我对人口现实的无私应用只是一只耳朵进了另一只耳朵。 他根本无法理解我的意思。 他每天都看到黑人在都柏林市中心四处走动,只是认为他们需要随处可见。

    同样令人好奇的是,过去半个世纪以来主导美国意识的黑白种族二分法甚至迁移到了英国和爱尔兰。 没有人关心东亚或南亚人在我们的屏幕和运动队中是看不见的。 黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。 在许多西方话语中,反种族主义仅仅意味着给黑人机会和免费的东西。

    回复:@Bardon Kaldian、@Achmed E. Newman、@Alec Leamas(在家工作)、@Anonymous、@AnotherDad

    我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。

    This is appalling. Not this “economist”‘s mathematical cluelessness. No appalling is that Ireland has allowed itself to become over 1% black–looked it up and the 2016 census data say 1.3% and it is probably worse now–and that people are not mad as hell about it.

    This is a disaster. A disaster. You get started like this with a little “diversity” and soon you’ve gone from being a coherent, pleasant, one-peopleish society … to a “diverse” contentious multiculti hell hole. You’re the US … on a tiny island with worse weather.

    You don’t even have to have hugely negative feelings about blacks. Same with allowing your nation to become 2% Asian–meaning you’ve got a bunch of non-integral Muslims in there.

    黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。

    这个。

    这个。

    战后美国的主导地位和力量以及英语的普遍性,使得美国的少数派宣传能够从我们的大学、新闻媒体、政界,当然还有 Hollyweird 中传播出去。

    Basically, the enormous wealth and power of the United States–created by hard working white guys–has been used by the people with contempt for exactly those hard working white guys to both fund and put the official imperial stamp-of-approval on their minoritarian, anti-national, anti-white-gentile propaganda.

    It’s from America right? Those guys are successful, must work fine … we can do it too.

    • 回复: @Rob McX
    An


    这是一场灾难。 灾难。 你以这样的方式开始,有点“多样性”,很快你就从一个连贯的、愉快的、单一民族的社会……变成了一个“多样化的”有争议的多元文化的地狱。
     
    Same everywhere in Europe in the last 60 or 70 years, as each country in its turn went down the immigration road. They could have learned the lesson from each other. Even before it ever started, they could have learned the lesson from America. Multiracialism is to be avoided. At the very best, it's an unavoidable evil, where a place was already occupied by different races before a nation was founded.

    One of the tricks of pro-immigration propaganda is to flatter people into thinking they're morally superior to those who haven't made multiracialism work. It's always the fault of racists, and never because of the impossibility of making it work.

    欧洲人坚信,他们可以通过吉姆克劳法、枪支和保障仇恨言论权利的宪法修正案来比美国人做得更好。 爱尔兰人认为,他们可以在拥有帝国主义历史遗产的英国失败的地方取得成功。

    The irony here is that whites can be convinced of significant differences amongst themselves (e.g. racist Americans vs tolerant Europeans), while simultaneously being made to believe there's no major difference between whites and non-whites.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @ytcarl

  84. @Joe Magarac
    @Alec Leamas(在家工作)


    IIRC,黑人自己估计他们占美国人口的 40%,这使得黑人在精英机构和政府中的比例什至看起来像是一种剥夺
     
    40% 大约适合芝加哥。 大多数黑人都不知道这个国家是什么样的。 这也适用于大城市的大多数白人。

    回复:@ Guest007

    芝加哥实际上不到 30% 的黑人,但只有 28% 的拉丁裔和 33% 的白人。

  85. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1559316078232322050
    https://twitter.com/GeorgeGascon/status/1559298298053177344

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-last-living-holocaust-mass-murderer/
    https://twitter.com/DavidColeStein/status/1559581632624922624

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @bispora

    Power grab? The left is incoherent except when read as projecting.

  86. @AnotherDad
    @阿农


    我也是爱尔兰人,他曾经告诉我,爱尔兰的足球队“比该国的橄榄球队更能代表爱尔兰社会”。

    尽管该国的黑人人口可能不到 1%,但该足球队有几名西非裔球员。 橄榄球队全是白人,反映了这个国家压倒性的白度(我认为大约 93% 是白人)。
     
    这太骇人听闻了。 不是这个“经济学家”的数学无知。 毫不令人震惊的是,爱尔兰允许自己成为超过 1% 的黑人——查了一下,2016 年的人口普查数据显示为 1.3%,现在可能更糟——人们并没有为此疯狂。

    这是一场灾难。 灾难。 你以这样的方式开始,有点“多样性”,很快你就从一个连贯的、愉快的、单一民族的社会……变成了一个“多样化的”有争议的多元文化的地狱。 你是美国……在一个天气更糟的小岛上。

    你甚至不必对黑人有很大的负面情绪。 让你的国家成为 2% 的亚洲人也是如此——这意味着你那里有一群不完整的穆斯林。

    黑人在美国被宠爱,所以他们被所有消费美国媒体和政治的人宠爱。
     
    这个。

    这个。

    战后美国的主导地位和力量以及英语的普遍性,使得美国的少数派宣传能够从我们的大学、新闻媒体、政界,当然还有 Hollyweird 中传播出去。

    基本上,美国的巨大财富和权力——由辛勤工作的白人创造——被人们蔑视正是那些辛勤工作的白人用来资助和盖上官方帝国批准印章的人。他们的少数派、反民族、反白人异教徒的宣传。

    是美国的吧? 那些人是成功的,必须做得很好……我们也能做到。

    回复:@Rob McX

    这是一场灾难。 灾难。 你以这样的方式开始,有点“多样性”,很快你就从一个连贯的、愉快的、单一民族的社会……变成了一个“多样化的”有争议的多元文化的地狱。

    在过去的 60 或 70 年里,欧洲各地都一样,因为每个国家都走上了移民之路。 他们本可以从彼此身上吸取教训。 甚至在它开始之前,他们就可以从美国吸取教训。 应该避免多种族主义。 充其量,这是一种不可避免的邪恶,一个地方在一个国家成立之前就已经被不同的种族占据了。

    支持移民宣传的技巧之一是奉承人们认为他们在道德上优于那些没有使多种族主义发挥作用的人。 这总是种族主义者的错,而不是因为不可能使它发挥作用。

    欧洲人坚信,他们可以通过吉姆克劳法、枪支和保障仇恨言论权利的宪法修正案来比美国人做得更好。 爱尔兰人认为,他们可以在拥有帝国主义历史遗产的英国失败的地方取得成功。

    具有讽刺意味的是,白人可以确信自己之间存在显着差异(例如,种族主义的美国人与宽容的欧洲人),同时又被说服相信白人和非白人之间没有重大区别。

    • 回复: @AnotherDad
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)


    在过去的 60 或 70 年里,欧洲各地都一样,因为每个国家都走上了移民之路。 他们本可以从彼此身上吸取教训。 甚至在它开始之前,他们就可以从美国吸取教训。 应该避免多种族主义。 充其量,这是一种不可避免的邪恶,一个地方在一个国家成立之前就已经被不同的种族占据了。
     
    不知道他的轶事,但很难被击败,伊诺克鲍威尔的“血河”演讲只是出于保守的良好感觉。

    政治家的最高功能是防止可预防的罪恶. 在寻求这样做的过程中,它遇到了深深植根于人性的障碍。

    一个是从事物的秩序来看,这种邪恶直到它们发生之前是无法证明的:在它们发生的每个阶段,都有怀疑和争论的余地,无论它们是真实的还是虚构的。 同样,与当前的麻烦相比,它们引起的关注很少,而当前的麻烦既无可争辩又紧迫:因此,所有政治的诱惑性诱惑都以牺牲未来为代价来关注当下的现状。
     

    我根本没有权利耸耸肩 并考虑其他事情。 他所说的,成千上万的人在说和思考——也许不是在整个英国,而是在已经经历全面转变的地区,这是英国一千年历史上无法比拟的。
     
    责任的意义。 的 领导。 这家伙是一个真正的男人。 一位领袖。

    15 或 20 年后,按照目前的趋势,这个国家将有 XNUMX 万英联邦移民及其后代。 那不是我的身影。 这是注册总署发言人向议会提供的官方数字。

    2000 年没有可比的官方数字,但它必须在 XNUMX 到 XNUMX 万左右,约占总人口的十分之一,接近大伦敦的人口。 当然,从马盖特到阿伯里斯特威斯,从彭赞斯到阿伯丁,它不会均匀分布。 英格兰的整个地区、城镇和部分城镇将被部分移民和移民后裔人口占据。

    随着时间的推移,这些移民后裔的比例,在英国出生的,与我们其他人完全一样的路线到达这里的人,将迅速增加。
     
    真的可以做数学。 实际上可以从今天的某些政策中进行预测,并了解它对未来的预示。

    保守党政策的第三个要素是,所有在这个国家的公民在法律面前一律平等,公共当局不得对他们进行歧视或区别对待。 正如希思先生所说,我们将没有“一等公民”和“二等公民”。 这并不意味着移民及其后代应该被提升为特权或特殊阶层,或者公民应该被剥夺在管理自己的事务时在同胞和另一个公民之间进行歧视的权利,或者他应该受到强加他以一种合法方式而不是另一种方式行事的理由和动机.
     
    了解结社自由。 和爱管闲事的超级国家。


    没有比那些大声要求立法的人所接受的更严重的误解了试图让这个国家对它所面临的日益严重的危险视而不见,或者让住在宫殿里的大主教们,小心翼翼地把被单拉到头上。 他们完全错误地理解了这一点。

    歧视和剥夺,惊恐和怨恨的感觉不在于移民人口,而在于他们已经来过和仍然来过的人。
     
    了解结社自由和少数主义对这些基本权利的攻击。


    没有什么比将英国的英联邦移民与美国黑人进行比较更容易产生误导的了。 美国的黑人人口在美国成为一个国家之前就已经存在,从字面上看是奴隶,后来被赋予了公民权和其他公民权利,他们只是逐渐地并且仍然不完全地行使这些权利.
     
    有眼睛。 还有一个大脑。 能够向他人学习。 可以区分。


    这位英联邦移民以完全公民身份来到英国,来到一个不存在公民之间歧视的国家,他立即拥有了每个公民的权利,从投票到国民医疗服务体系下的免费治疗。

    移民遇到的任何不利因素都不是来自法律、公共政策或行政管理,而是来自那些导致并将永远导致一个人的命运和经验与另一个人不同的个人情况和意外。
     
    了解自然。 拒绝白板。

    现在,我们看到反对融合的积极力量在增长,既得利益在保持和加剧种族和宗教差异方面的增长,以期首先对移民同胞,然后对其他人口实行实际统治. 这团不比人手大的云,可以如此迅速地覆盖天空,最近在伍尔弗汉普顿已经出现,并显示出迅速蔓延的迹象。 17 月 XNUMX 日,我将逐字逐句地在当地媒体上使用的话,不是我的,而是一位现任政府部长的工党议员所说的:

    “锡克教社区”在英国维持不适当习俗的运动令人遗憾。 在英国工作,特别是在公共服务部门工作,他们应该准备好接受他们的就业条款和条件。 要求特殊的公共权利(或者应该说是仪式?)会导致社会内部出现危险的分裂。 这种社区主义是一种溃疡; 无论是用一种颜色还是另一种颜色,都将受到强烈谴责。
     
    了解少数派。 及其邪恶。

    ~~~

    我们的伊诺克鲍威尔在哪里? 在哪里?

    回复:@Anon,@Edward Dett

    , @Anonymous
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)


    在过去的 60 或 70 年里,欧洲各地都一样,因为每个国家都走上了移民之路。 他们本可以从彼此身上吸取教训。 甚至在它开始之前,他们就可以从美国吸取教训。 应该避免多种族主义。
     
    难道欧洲人不能从第一次世界大战(或第二次世界大战)中吸取教训吗?
    , @ytcarl
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    我似乎记得 80 年代和 90 年代欧洲出版物中关于美国种族关系的某种自鸣得意的语气。 对于美国所有种族问题的起因,土著白人可悲的人有很多咯咯笑声,暗示欧洲人会更好地处理种族关系。

    奇怪的是,我认为可能有一些嫉妒(美国如此充满活力),并想知道这是否导致了欧洲后来一些更具灾难性的移民政策。

    然而,我现在没有听到同样的自鸣得意的语气。

    回复:@AceDeuce,@Peter Akuleyev

  87. We did this kind of study before, not for America, but the Netherlands. Yes, normies underestimate the crime rate ratios. We didn’t use murder rate ratio, as this is too rare.

    Video summary

    Paper, click More then Download
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352392839_A_study_of_stereotype_accuracy_in_the_Netherlands_immigrant_crime_occupational_sex_distribution_and_provincial_income_inequality

    • 谢谢: Chrisnonymous
  88. @Art Deco
    @大卫在田纳西州

    If you say so. My recollection is that 纽约 magazine published a post-mortem which cut Simpson, his admirers, and the jury to ribbons. Steven Brill sliced up Marcia Clark ("She spent days questioning witnesses on whom she should have spent an hour..") and others took Lance Ito to task. Stanley Crouch was one of the few common-and-garden figures I can recall defending the verdict. (His argument was that the chain-of-custody deficits in re the forensic evidence made the prosecution case crucially dependent on the oral testimony of Mark Fuhrman, a man that jury would never trust; Fuhrman maintained Marcia Clark could have called his partner to the stand in his stead but refused to do so for some inane reason).

    回复:@David In TN

    There was a lot of “now white people know how black people have felt all these years” commentary.

    Yes, there was more criticism of the prosecution during the trial than agreement with the verdict. Jeffrey Toobin wrote in his book on the trial how he and his colleagues were afraid of “being racist” and never wrote “the evidence against Simpson was simply overwhelming.”

    The plaintiffs’ attorneys in the wrongful death civil suit against Simpson cut Fuhrman out of the case completely. And put on more evidence than the prosecution had in the criminal trial. Daniel Petrocelli, the attorney for the Goldmans, expressed surprise in his book at the evidence Marcia Clark left out.

  89. @Thomm
    An


    Most people are simply not mathematical thinkers at all. They have some handy life rules, but they simply do not think the way Steve thinks, they way I think.
     
    LOL. To call Steve a 'mathematical thinker' is a stretch, since even he didn't know what nano, pico, giga, and tera meant until he got called on it two years ago. Even though this could be looked up in a few seconds. It is not just the ignorance, but the blissful incuriosity.

    I agree that Steve is a 'mathematical thinker' relative to WN wiggers that comprise his audience. But that is saying absolutely nothing about absolute mathematical aptitude.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jim, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Thomm, your “argument” for why Steve is an inferior mathematical thinker–compared to presumably yourself–consists of
    — Steve doesn’t know some for some things
    — name calling other commenters.

    • 回复: @Thomm
    An

    My argument is rock-solid. Knowing the basic order of magnitude prefixed for large numbers, which are in Greek (or in the case of 'pico', Spanish) is very, very rudimentary for anyone who aspires to any sort of mathematical competence. To deny otherwise is just basic 80-IQ default behavior, which surprises me in your case as I always considered you to be among the smarter commenters here (I have never called you a 'wigger' specifically).

    Btw, you need to spend less time on the Internet. Did you know that you comment on TUR about 10-12 times as much as I do?

    From the commenter histories :

    AnotherDad :
    Year 2022 : 1676 comments to date
    Year 2021 : 2261 comments
    Year 2020 : 2395 comments

    Thomm :
    Year 2022 : 148 comments to date
    Year 2021 : 196 comments
    Year 2020 : 361 comments

    So you comment here 10-12 times more often than I do, depending how you measure it. It is even more if you account for many of my comments being repeat postings of poems and songs I have written. If we take just original comments, then from 1/1/2020-present, you commented here 20 times as much as I did.

    Given your advanced age, isn't there something else you would rather spend your time on? Or is it true that after the kids leave home and the old folks are empty nesters, older men find a variety of ways to avoid interacting with their wives?

    I find it unfortunate, that with the sand emptying out of the upper half of the hourglass quickly, this is where you spend your waking hours. At least Steve can solicit donations. You can't.

  90. @ginger bread man
    有人会说白人犯了更多的枪支犯罪。

    一项有趣的后续研究将细分媒体对枪支犯罪的种族关注程度,以及它是否与此类犯罪的真正种族细分成比例。 我的印象,就像史蒂夫关于法律和秩序 SVU 所指出的那样,一般来说,白人凶杀案和枪支犯罪的报道不仅远远超过它们在现实世界中的比例,而且可能占所有报道的 50% 以上。 这将导致《纽约时报》的普通读者相信白人犯下超过 50% 的枪支杀人案,这是有道理的,因为所有种族的枪支犯罪率大致相同。

    Replies: @Rooster16, @Veteran Aryan, @Revelation

    You hit the nail on the head. There’s a war going on right now, a war for your mind. The propaganda is so thick, most people have stopped thinking critically; pattern recognition has been turned into a thought crime. Your average White understands black homicide rates are higher, they just cannot grasp how high. They are bombarded with shows like SVU, Law & Order, the Nightly News, even entire channels dedicated to crime like I.D… and all these shows sensationalize White crime very disproportionately to black crime. After watching these programs nonstop, they’re left thinking “see Whites commit terrible crimes too” and that’s exactly what the programmers want. If you’re average White knew how dangerous the black population is, they wouldn’t live within a 100 miles of them.

  91. @AnotherDad
    @汤姆

    Thomm, your "argument" for why Steve is an inferior mathematical thinker--compared to presumably yourself--consists of
    -- Steve doesn't know some for some things
    -- name calling other commenters.

    回复:@Thomm

    My argument is rock-solid. Knowing the basic order of magnitude prefixed for large numbers, which are in Greek (or in the case of ‘pico’, Spanish) is very, very rudimentary for anyone who aspires to any sort of mathematical competence. To deny otherwise is just basic 80-IQ default behavior, which surprises me in your case as I always considered you to be among the smarter commenters here (I have never called you a ‘wigger’ specifically).

    Btw, you need to spend less time on the Internet. Did you know that you comment on TUR about 10-12 times as much as I do?

    From the commenter histories :

    AnotherDad :
    Year 2022 : 1676 comments to date
    Year 2021 : 2261 comments
    Year 2020 : 2395 comments

    Thomm :
    Year 2022 : 148 comments to date
    Year 2021 : 196 comments
    Year 2020 : 361 comments

    So you comment here 10-12 times more often than I do, depending how you measure it. It is even more if you account for many of my comments being repeat postings of poems and songs I have written. If we take just original comments, then from 1/1/2020-present, you commented here 20 times as much as I did.

    Given your advanced age, isn’t there something else you would rather spend your time on? Or is it true that after the kids leave home and the old folks are empty nesters, older men find a variety of ways to avoid interacting with their wives?

    I find it unfortunate, that with the sand emptying out of the upper half of the hourglass quickly, this is where you spend your waking hours. At least Steve can solicit donations. You can’t.

  92. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1559316078232322050
    https://twitter.com/GeorgeGascon/status/1559298298053177344

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-last-living-holocaust-mass-murderer/
    https://twitter.com/DavidColeStein/status/1559581632624922624

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @bispora

    Soros and Gascon. LOL.

    Two more disasters for Americans whom our National Immigration Safety Board should review and kick out.

  93. *basic order of magnitude prefixes for extremely large and small decimal numbers

  94. @Rob McX
    An


    这是一场灾难。 灾难。 你以这样的方式开始,有点“多样性”,很快你就从一个连贯的、愉快的、单一民族的社会……变成了一个“多样化的”有争议的多元文化的地狱。
     
    Same everywhere in Europe in the last 60 or 70 years, as each country in its turn went down the immigration road. They could have learned the lesson from each other. Even before it ever started, they could have learned the lesson from America. Multiracialism is to be avoided. At the very best, it's an unavoidable evil, where a place was already occupied by different races before a nation was founded.

    One of the tricks of pro-immigration propaganda is to flatter people into thinking they're morally superior to those who haven't made multiracialism work. It's always the fault of racists, and never because of the impossibility of making it work.

    欧洲人坚信,他们可以通过吉姆克劳法、枪支和保障仇恨言论权利的宪法修正案来比美国人做得更好。 爱尔兰人认为,他们可以在拥有帝国主义历史遗产的英国失败的地方取得成功。

    The irony here is that whites can be convinced of significant differences amongst themselves (e.g. racist Americans vs tolerant Europeans), while simultaneously being made to believe there's no major difference between whites and non-whites.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @ytcarl

    在过去的 60 或 70 年里,欧洲各地都一样,因为每个国家都走上了移民之路。 他们本可以从彼此身上吸取教训。 甚至在它开始之前,他们就可以从美国吸取教训。 应该避免多种族主义。 充其量,这是一种不可避免的邪恶,一个地方在一个国家成立之前就已经被不同的种族占据了。

    Don’t know about his anecdote, but it’s hard to beat, Enoch Powell’s “Rivers of Blood” speech for just sheer conservative good sense.

    政治家的最高功能是防止可预防的罪恶. 在寻求这样做的过程中,它遇到了深深植根于人性的障碍。

    一个是从事物的秩序来看,这种邪恶直到它们发生之前是无法证明的:在它们发生的每个阶段,都有怀疑和争论的余地,无论它们是真实的还是虚构的。 同样,与当前的麻烦相比,它们引起的关注很少,而当前的麻烦既无可争辩又紧迫:因此,所有政治的诱惑性诱惑都以牺牲未来为代价来关注当下的现状。

    我根本没有权利耸耸肩 and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history.

    责任的意义。 的 领导。 这家伙是一个真正的男人。 一位领袖。

    15 或 20 年后,按照目前的趋势,这个国家将有 XNUMX 万英联邦移民及其后代。 那不是我的身影。 这是注册总署发言人向议会提供的官方数字。

    2000 年没有可比的官方数字,但它必须在 XNUMX 到 XNUMX 万左右,约占总人口的十分之一,接近大伦敦的人口。 当然,从马盖特到阿伯里斯特威斯,从彭赞斯到阿伯丁,它不会均匀分布。 英格兰的整个地区、城镇和部分城镇将被部分移民和移民后裔人口占据。

    随着时间的推移,这些移民后裔的比例,在英国出生的,与我们其他人完全一样的路线到达这里的人,将迅速增加。

    真的可以做数学。 实际上可以从今天的某些政策中进行预测,并了解它对未来的预示。

    The third element of the Conservative Party’s policy is that all who are in this country as citizens should be equal before the law and that there shall be no discrimination or difference made between them by public authority. As Mr Heath has put it we will have no “first-class citizens” and “second-class citizens.” 这并不意味着移民及其后代应该被提升为特权或特殊阶层,或者公民应该被剥夺在管理自己的事务时在同胞和另一个公民之间进行歧视的权利,或者他应该受到强加他以一种合法方式而不是另一种方式行事的理由和动机.

    了解结社自由。 和爱管闲事的超级国家。

    There could be no grosser misconception of the realities than is entertained by those who vociferously demand legislation as they call it “against discrimination”, whether they be leader-writers of the same kidney and sometimes on the same newspapers which year after year in the 1930s tried to blind this country to the rising peril which confronted it, or archbishops who live in palaces, faring delicately with the bedclothes pulled right up over their heads. They have got it exactly and diametrically wrong.

    歧视和剥夺,惊恐和怨恨的感觉不在于移民人口,而在于他们已经来过和仍然来过的人。

    了解结社自由和少数主义对这些基本权利的攻击。

    没有什么比将英国的英联邦移民与美国黑人进行比较更容易产生误导的了。 美国的黑人人口在美国成为一个国家之前就已经存在,从字面上看是奴隶,后来被赋予了公民权和其他公民权利,他们只是逐渐地并且仍然不完全地行使这些权利.

    有眼睛。 还有一个大脑。 能够向他人学习。 可以区分。

    这位英联邦移民以完全公民身份来到英国,来到一个不存在公民之间歧视的国家,他立即拥有了每个公民的权利,从投票到国民医疗服务体系下的免费治疗。

    移民遭受的任何不利后果都不是由于法律,公共政策或行政管理引起的,而是源于那些个人情况和事故,这些个人情况和事故导致并且将永远导致一个人的命运和经验与另一个人不同。

    了解自然。 拒绝白板。

    现在,我们看到反对融合的积极力量在增长,既得利益在保持和加剧种族和宗教差异方面的增长,以期首先对移民同胞,然后对其他人口实行实际统治. The cloud no bigger than a man’s hand, that can so rapidly overcast the sky, has been visible recently in Wolverhampton and has shown signs of spreading quickly. The words I am about to use, verbatim as they appeared in the local press on 17 February, are not mine, but those of a Labour Member of Parliament who is a minister in the present government:

    令人遗憾的是,“锡克教徒社区”运动在英国维持了不适当的习俗。 他们应在英国工作,特别是在公共服务部门工作,应准备接受其雇用条款和条件。 主张特殊的公共权利(或应该说礼仪?)会导致社会内部的危险分裂。 这种共产主义是一个溃疡病。 无论是一种颜色还是另一种颜色,都应强烈谴责。”

    了解少数派。 及其邪恶。

    ~~~

    我们的伊诺克鲍威尔在哪里? 在哪里?

    • 回复: @Anon
    An


    Where is our Enoch Powell? Where?
     
    His name is Ricky Vaughn. He is being prosecuted in Florida by the DOJ.
    , @Edward Dett
    An

    Consider Carl Benjamin's essay "Five False Assumptions of Liberalism" on Lotus Eaters website and YouTube interviews about the essay.

  95. @ginger bread man
    有人会说白人犯了更多的枪支犯罪。

    一项有趣的后续研究将细分媒体对枪支犯罪的种族关注程度,以及它是否与此类犯罪的真正种族细分成比例。 我的印象,就像史蒂夫关于法律和秩序 SVU 所指出的那样,一般来说,白人凶杀案和枪支犯罪的报道不仅远远超过它们在现实世界中的比例,而且可能占所有报道的 50% 以上。 这将导致《纽约时报》的普通读者相信白人犯下超过 50% 的枪支杀人案,这是有道理的,因为所有种族的枪支犯罪率大致相同。

    Replies: @Rooster16, @Veteran Aryan, @Revelation

    有人会说白人犯了更多的枪支犯罪。

    You’ve fallen for the “gun violence” semantics trickery. “Gun violence” adds suicide to the numbers, a category dominated by whites.

  96. @Thomm
    An


    Most people are simply not mathematical thinkers at all. They have some handy life rules, but they simply do not think the way Steve thinks, they way I think.
     
    LOL. To call Steve a 'mathematical thinker' is a stretch, since even he didn't know what nano, pico, giga, and tera meant until he got called on it two years ago. Even though this could be looked up in a few seconds. It is not just the ignorance, but the blissful incuriosity.

    I agree that Steve is a 'mathematical thinker' relative to WN wiggers that comprise his audience. But that is saying absolutely nothing about absolute mathematical aptitude.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jim, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Knowing what those words mean has absolutely nothing to do with mathematics. The greatest mathematicians in the world might not know what any of those words mean.

  97. @Rob McX
    An


    这是一场灾难。 灾难。 你以这样的方式开始,有点“多样性”,很快你就从一个连贯的、愉快的、单一民族的社会……变成了一个“多样化的”有争议的多元文化的地狱。
     
    Same everywhere in Europe in the last 60 or 70 years, as each country in its turn went down the immigration road. They could have learned the lesson from each other. Even before it ever started, they could have learned the lesson from America. Multiracialism is to be avoided. At the very best, it's an unavoidable evil, where a place was already occupied by different races before a nation was founded.

    One of the tricks of pro-immigration propaganda is to flatter people into thinking they're morally superior to those who haven't made multiracialism work. It's always the fault of racists, and never because of the impossibility of making it work.

    欧洲人坚信,他们可以通过吉姆克劳法、枪支和保障仇恨言论权利的宪法修正案来比美国人做得更好。 爱尔兰人认为,他们可以在拥有帝国主义历史遗产的英国失败的地方取得成功。

    The irony here is that whites can be convinced of significant differences amongst themselves (e.g. racist Americans vs tolerant Europeans), while simultaneously being made to believe there's no major difference between whites and non-whites.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @ytcarl

    在过去的 60 或 70 年里,欧洲各地都一样,因为每个国家都走上了移民之路。 他们本可以从彼此身上吸取教训。 甚至在它开始之前,他们就可以从美国吸取教训。 应该避免多种族主义。

    难道欧洲人不能从第一次世界大战(或第二次世界大战)中吸取教训吗?

  98. @AnotherDad
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)


    在过去的 60 或 70 年里,欧洲各地都一样,因为每个国家都走上了移民之路。 他们本可以从彼此身上吸取教训。 甚至在它开始之前,他们就可以从美国吸取教训。 应该避免多种族主义。 充其量,这是一种不可避免的邪恶,一个地方在一个国家成立之前就已经被不同的种族占据了。
     
    不知道他的轶事,但很难被击败,伊诺克鲍威尔的“血河”演讲只是出于保守的良好感觉。

    政治家的最高功能是防止可预防的罪恶. 在寻求这样做的过程中,它遇到了深深植根于人性的障碍。

    一个是从事物的秩序来看,这种邪恶直到它们发生之前是无法证明的:在它们发生的每个阶段,都有怀疑和争论的余地,无论它们是真实的还是虚构的。 同样,与当前的麻烦相比,它们引起的关注很少,而当前的麻烦既无可争辩又紧迫:因此,所有政治的诱惑性诱惑都以牺牲未来为代价来关注当下的现状。
     

    我根本没有权利耸耸肩 并考虑其他事情。 他所说的,成千上万的人在说和思考——也许不是在整个英国,而是在已经经历全面转变的地区,这是英国一千年历史上无法比拟的。
     
    责任的意义。 的 领导。 这家伙是一个真正的男人。 一位领袖。

    15 或 20 年后,按照目前的趋势,这个国家将有 XNUMX 万英联邦移民及其后代。 那不是我的身影。 这是注册总署发言人向议会提供的官方数字。

    2000 年没有可比的官方数字,但它必须在 XNUMX 到 XNUMX 万左右,约占总人口的十分之一,接近大伦敦的人口。 当然,从马盖特到阿伯里斯特威斯,从彭赞斯到阿伯丁,它不会均匀分布。 英格兰的整个地区、城镇和部分城镇将被部分移民和移民后裔人口占据。

    随着时间的推移,这些移民后裔的比例,在英国出生的,与我们其他人完全一样的路线到达这里的人,将迅速增加。
     
    真的可以做数学。 实际上可以从今天的某些政策中进行预测,并了解它对未来的预示。

    保守党政策的第三个要素是,所有在这个国家的公民在法律面前一律平等,公共当局不得对他们进行歧视或区别对待。 正如希思先生所说,我们将没有“一等公民”和“二等公民”。 这并不意味着移民及其后代应该被提升为特权或特殊阶层,或者公民应该被剥夺在管理自己的事务时在同胞和另一个公民之间进行歧视的权利,或者他应该受到强加他以一种合法方式而不是另一种方式行事的理由和动机.
     
    了解结社自由。 和爱管闲事的超级国家。


    没有比那些大声要求立法的人所接受的更严重的误解了试图让这个国家对它所面临的日益严重的危险视而不见,或者让住在宫殿里的大主教们,小心翼翼地把被单拉到头上。 他们完全错误地理解了这一点。

    歧视和剥夺,惊恐和怨恨的感觉不在于移民人口,而在于他们已经来过和仍然来过的人。
     
    了解结社自由和少数主义对这些基本权利的攻击。


    没有什么比将英国的英联邦移民与美国黑人进行比较更容易产生误导的了。 美国的黑人人口在美国成为一个国家之前就已经存在,从字面上看是奴隶,后来被赋予了公民权和其他公民权利,他们只是逐渐地并且仍然不完全地行使这些权利.
     
    有眼睛。 还有一个大脑。 能够向他人学习。 可以区分。


    这位英联邦移民以完全公民身份来到英国,来到一个不存在公民之间歧视的国家,他立即拥有了每个公民的权利,从投票到国民医疗服务体系下的免费治疗。

    移民遇到的任何不利因素都不是来自法律、公共政策或行政管理,而是来自那些导致并将永远导致一个人的命运和经验与另一个人不同的个人情况和意外。
     
    了解自然。 拒绝白板。

    现在,我们看到反对融合的积极力量在增长,既得利益在保持和加剧种族和宗教差异方面的增长,以期首先对移民同胞,然后对其他人口实行实际统治. 这团不比人手大的云,可以如此迅速地覆盖天空,最近在伍尔弗汉普顿已经出现,并显示出迅速蔓延的迹象。 17 月 XNUMX 日,我将逐字逐句地在当地媒体上使用的话,不是我的,而是一位现任政府部长的工党议员所说的:

    “锡克教社区”在英国维持不适当习俗的运动令人遗憾。 在英国工作,特别是在公共服务部门工作,他们应该准备好接受他们的就业条款和条件。 要求特殊的公共权利(或者应该说是仪式?)会导致社会内部出现危险的分裂。 这种社区主义是一种溃疡; 无论是用一种颜色还是另一种颜色,都将受到强烈谴责。
     
    了解少数派。 及其邪恶。

    ~~~

    我们的伊诺克鲍威尔在哪里? 在哪里?

    回复:@Anon,@Edward Dett

    Where is our Enoch Powell? Where?

    His name is Ricky Vaughn. He is being prosecuted in Florida by the DOJ.

  99. @Rob McX
    An


    这是一场灾难。 灾难。 你以这样的方式开始,有点“多样性”,很快你就从一个连贯的、愉快的、单一民族的社会……变成了一个“多样化的”有争议的多元文化的地狱。
     
    Same everywhere in Europe in the last 60 or 70 years, as each country in its turn went down the immigration road. They could have learned the lesson from each other. Even before it ever started, they could have learned the lesson from America. Multiracialism is to be avoided. At the very best, it's an unavoidable evil, where a place was already occupied by different races before a nation was founded.

    One of the tricks of pro-immigration propaganda is to flatter people into thinking they're morally superior to those who haven't made multiracialism work. It's always the fault of racists, and never because of the impossibility of making it work.

    欧洲人坚信,他们可以通过吉姆克劳法、枪支和保障仇恨言论权利的宪法修正案来比美国人做得更好。 爱尔兰人认为,他们可以在拥有帝国主义历史遗产的英国失败的地方取得成功。

    The irony here is that whites can be convinced of significant differences amongst themselves (e.g. racist Americans vs tolerant Europeans), while simultaneously being made to believe there's no major difference between whites and non-whites.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Anonymous, @ytcarl

    I seem to remember a certain smug tone from European publications in the 80s and 90s regarding race relations in America. There was much clucking over the native white deplorables — the cause of all of America’s racial problems — with the implication that Europeans would handle race relations so much better.

    Strangely, I think there may have been some envy (America being so vibrant and all), and wonder if that led to some of Europe’s later, more disastrous immigration policies.

    I’m not hearing the same smug tone nowadays, however.

    • 回复: @AceDeuce
    @ytcarl


    I seem to remember a certain smug tone from European publications in the 80s and 90s regarding race relations in America. There was much clucking over the native white deplorables — the cause of all of America’s racial problems — with the implication that Europeans would handle race relations so much better.

    Strangely, I think there may have been some envy (America being so vibrant and all), and wonder if that led to some of Europe’s later, more disastrous immigration policies.

    I’m not hearing the same smug tone nowadays, however.
     


    Patterson's First Axiom in action:

    "Nothing cures the thirst for integration like a good dose of negro."
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @ytcarl

    Europe is still in much better shape than the US. While importing North Africans, Turks and Afghanis is stupid, none of those groups is anywhere near as dangerous as American blacks. The worst “no go” zone in Sweden or Germany is still much safer than North Philadelphia, Detroit or Memphis.

    Obviously the surging wave from SubSaharan Africa may change that equation.

  100. @Twinkie
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)


    得到答案会很有趣,但即使问这个问题也会被认为是无耻的,比如问,“你认为黑人平均智商比非西班牙裔白人低多少。”
     
    这之所以“离谱”,正是因为受过良好教育的自由主义者实际上知道答案。 强迫他们讨论这个不方便和尴尬的事实是不礼貌的。 就他们参与的程度而言,他们会将其归因于贫困、缺乏教育、缺乏“机会”等。

    为什么你认为买得起的人住在“有好学校”的住宅区? 这是“请少数黑人和西班牙裔”的代表。

    回复:@NOTA

    Also, nobody cares about being neighbors with a black doctor or a Mexican dentist, they just want to avoid the underclass, which is disproportionately black and hispanic.

    • 回复: @AceDeuce
    @NOTA


    Also, nobody cares about being neighbors with a black doctor or a Mexican dentist, they just want to avoid the underclass, which is disproportionately black and hispanic.
     
    I wouldn't want to live next to those examples you gave, either. Why is there this desperate mania for trying to establish/salvage a relationship with some negro, any negro?

    回复:@Jack D

  101. @anon
    @阿农


    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?
     
    尽管大多数图书馆都不受这些事实的影响,但我最喜欢的统计数据之一是跨种族暴力犯罪率。 事实证明,黑人攻击白人比白人攻击黑人要多得多。 在过去几年中,典型的数字是黑人对白人实施了大约 500,000 次暴力袭击,而白人对黑人实施了大约 50,000 次暴力袭击。 这个 10 倍的差异很高,但是当你考虑到人口中大约有 1/5 的黑人这一事实时,黑人攻击白人的总体比率几乎比白人攻击黑人的比率高 5000%。

    这也意味着在美国,每 60 秒就有一名黑人强奸、抢劫、袭击或杀害一名白人。 你在新闻上见过多少这样的罪行?

    Replies: @David In TN, @James Speaks, @Curle

    You Tube would offer a solution except … You Tube wokeness precludes this.

  102. @ThreeCranes
    @IHTG


    "The inability to view blacks as just extra-rowdy people, instead of as a species of bizarre violent aliens that requires either coddling or extermination, is literally destroying your civilization."
     
    So, let me get this straight. It's not the blacks who mercilessly attack someone in a street beatdown sucker punch that lands the victim in the hospital or kills him outright. It's not the blacks pulling down statues of persons who stood for principles or embodied ideal traits that lie completely beyond black's ken. It's not the blacks who call for the destruction of "whiteness"; it's the whites who have an "inability to view blacks as just extra-rowdy people" who are "literally destroying...civilization".

    There has to be a label for this complete inversion of reality. If you're white, you are the living instance, the walking exemplar of what used to be called an "alienated" person. You are completely out of touch with your own self interests, have enshrined a false idol at the center of your Self. Get clear, man! IF YOU DON'T STICK UP FOR YOURSELF, NO ONE WILL. Now strap on your greaves, shoulder your shield, heft your spear, and go out there and FIGHT for your right to do that which you most treasure: a grand project or a beautiful woman or whatever.

    回复:@偶尔潜伏者

    The post didn’t say that at all. I read as the typical mainstream conservative position: Black people are responsible for their behavior and should be treated like anyone else who behaves that way, while traditional liberals try to excuse and coddle them like pets with no responsibility, and alt-right-HBD people see them as members of an alien subspecies who just are that way and cannot be reformed, i e also as people with no responsibility. The post claims that there is a fundamental agreement between liberals (including black activists) and HBD on black people that black people are not humans like other humans, and assumes this is counterproductive for US society.

  103. @James Speaks

    有没有调查过这个问题?
     
    讨论杀戮率的调查的切入点应该从讨论战斗或逃跑反应中基于种族的差异开始。

    回复:@Lockean Proviso

    Regarding the same, discussion should also include data on racial differences in having a complete lack of any genes coding for MAO inhibitor production, a strong predictor of impulsive violence that is much more prevalent in blacks than in whites or Asians.

    • 回复: @James Speaks
    @Lockean普罗维索

    Bingo (eieio) was his name-o!

    It would appear there could be a definition of race.

  104. Does Nicholas Stix’s thinking about Jim Snow/White Genocide deserve a favorable mention here?

    Yes, Black crime rates are higher, Black IQ is lower–等等, et bloody damned 其他–but what difference would that make if we truly had an America in which we were judged by the “content of our character” and if “equality under the law” actually meant something?

    Instead, we’ve got an America that very improperly (in my opinion) over-valorizes all Blacks according to a “color of their skin” standard—so we’ve got feckless Goodwhites, especially academics and policy libs, stupidly trying to ignore commonsensical and unobjectionable race differences.

    Our civil rights laws are wrong. And the “therapeutic mass rhetoric” we use to justify those stupid laws is bloody nuts.

  105. @NOTA
    @Twinkie

    Also, nobody cares about being neighbors with a black doctor or a Mexican dentist, they just want to avoid the underclass, which is disproportionately black and hispanic.

    回复:@AceDeuce

    Also, nobody cares about being neighbors with a black doctor or a Mexican dentist, they just want to avoid the underclass, which is disproportionately black and hispanic.

    I wouldn’t want to live next to those examples you gave, either. Why is there this desperate mania for trying to establish/salvage a relationship with some negro, any negro?

    • 回复: @Jack D
    @AceDeuce

    I had a mixed race couple as immediate neighbors. The black wife was one of the nicest people I ever knew (of course she died young). Their 100% white replacements were bastards from day 1. So you really have to look at the individual and not the race.

    Nor was the black woman some sort of talented 10th Caribbean paper bag test mulatto. She somehow had escaped the ghetto and become a professional but she told us stories about her family members who were still stuck in the ghetto - IIRC her brother was a garbage man in New Haven. One of the reasons why it is hard for blacks to save money (besides the fact that they like to spend it on crap) is that if a black is successful his (or her) less successful relatives are always hitting them up for money to make bail or keep from being evicted or whatever.

    I didn't seek out a relationship with this couple just so I could brag that "some of my best friends are black". They just happened to live next door and she was the kind of person who made friends with everyone.

    回复:@Curle

  106. @ytcarl
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    我似乎记得 80 年代和 90 年代欧洲出版物中关于美国种族关系的某种自鸣得意的语气。 对于美国所有种族问题的起因,土著白人可悲的人有很多咯咯笑声,暗示欧洲人会更好地处理种族关系。

    奇怪的是,我认为可能有一些嫉妒(美国如此充满活力),并想知道这是否导致了欧洲后来一些更具灾难性的移民政策。

    然而,我现在没有听到同样的自鸣得意的语气。

    回复:@AceDeuce,@Peter Akuleyev

    I seem to remember a certain smug tone from European publications in the 80s and 90s regarding race relations in America. There was much clucking over the native white deplorables — the cause of all of America’s racial problems — with the implication that Europeans would handle race relations so much better.

    Strangely, I think there may have been some envy (America being so vibrant and all), and wonder if that led to some of Europe’s later, more disastrous immigration policies.

    I’m not hearing the same smug tone nowadays, however.

    帕特森第一公理在行动:

    “Nothing cures the thirst for integration like a good dose of negro.”

  107. @Steve Sailer
    @乔·玛加拉克(Joe Magarac)

    您可以查看不同州的西班牙裔:例如,康涅狄格西班牙裔是(或曾经是)严重的波多黎各人。

    回复:@J.Ross、@Joe Magarac、@Jim Bob Lassiter

    还有巴西人。

  108. @Lockean Proviso
    @詹姆斯讲

    Regarding the same, discussion should also include data on racial differences in having a complete lack of any genes coding for MAO inhibitor production, a strong predictor of impulsive violence that is much more prevalent in blacks than in whites or Asians.

    回复:@James讲话

    Bingo (eieio) was his name-o!

    It would appear there could be a definition of race.

  109. @ytcarl
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)

    我似乎记得 80 年代和 90 年代欧洲出版物中关于美国种族关系的某种自鸣得意的语气。 对于美国所有种族问题的起因,土著白人可悲的人有很多咯咯笑声,暗示欧洲人会更好地处理种族关系。

    奇怪的是,我认为可能有一些嫉妒(美国如此充满活力),并想知道这是否导致了欧洲后来一些更具灾难性的移民政策。

    然而,我现在没有听到同样的自鸣得意的语气。

    回复:@AceDeuce,@Peter Akuleyev

    Europe is still in much better shape than the US. While importing North Africans, Turks and Afghanis is stupid, none of those groups is anywhere near as dangerous as American blacks. The worst “no go” zone in Sweden or Germany is still much safer than North Philadelphia, Detroit or Memphis.

    Obviously the surging wave from SubSaharan Africa may change that equation.

  110. @Harry Baldwin
    [抱歉,之前的编辑在我进行更正之前已发布。]
    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,57% 的自由派或非常自由派的人认为 1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人男子被警察谋杀,而超过 34% 的人认为这是 10,000 名或更多。 几乎一半认为自己保守或非常保守的人猜测这个数字约为 10。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    So if you asked liberals how high the per capita murder offending rate for blacks is compared to that of non-Hispanic whites, you'd probably get an answer like "half as high," "equal" or perhaps "1.5 times higher." Most moderate conservatives would also probably guess low.

    It would be interesting to get the answer, but to even ask the question would be considered outrageous, like asking, "How much lower do you think average black IQ is than that of non-Hispanic whites."

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Edward Dett

    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 last year found that 57% of the people who identify as liberal or very liberal believe 1,000 or more unarmed black men were murdered by police in 2019, while more than 34% of those believe it was 10,000 or more. Almost half of those considering themselves conservative or very conservative guessed the number to be about 10. According to the Washington Post database, the number was 12.

    This misperception needs to be dispelled. Glad you bring it back into focus. I remember it being reported on Fox, but so much information comes and goes daily … The misperception is definitely embedded in American blacks as part of the chip on their shoulders, and the 大小 of wrongness if you group by political affiliation should also be included whenever it is mentioned. (Way, way off paranoidly for the left; a little bit off too sanguinely for the right.)

    As effete as it sounds, disseminating proper facts is disseminating the truth.

  111. @AnotherDad
    罗布·麦克克斯(Rob McX)


    在过去的 60 或 70 年里,欧洲各地都一样,因为每个国家都走上了移民之路。 他们本可以从彼此身上吸取教训。 甚至在它开始之前,他们就可以从美国吸取教训。 应该避免多种族主义。 充其量,这是一种不可避免的邪恶,一个地方在一个国家成立之前就已经被不同的种族占据了。
     
    不知道他的轶事,但很难被击败,伊诺克鲍威尔的“血河”演讲只是出于保守的良好感觉。

    政治家的最高功能是防止可预防的罪恶. 在寻求这样做的过程中,它遇到了深深植根于人性的障碍。

    一个是从事物的秩序来看,这种邪恶直到它们发生之前是无法证明的:在它们发生的每个阶段,都有怀疑和争论的余地,无论它们是真实的还是虚构的。 同样,与当前的麻烦相比,它们引起的关注很少,而当前的麻烦既无可争辩又紧迫:因此,所有政治的诱惑性诱惑都以牺牲未来为代价来关注当下的现状。
     

    我根本没有权利耸耸肩 并考虑其他事情。 他所说的,成千上万的人在说和思考——也许不是在整个英国,而是在已经经历全面转变的地区,这是英国一千年历史上无法比拟的。
     
    责任的意义。 的 领导。 这家伙是一个真正的男人。 一位领袖。

    15 或 20 年后,按照目前的趋势,这个国家将有 XNUMX 万英联邦移民及其后代。 那不是我的身影。 这是注册总署发言人向议会提供的官方数字。

    2000 年没有可比的官方数字,但它必须在 XNUMX 到 XNUMX 万左右,约占总人口的十分之一,接近大伦敦的人口。 当然,从马盖特到阿伯里斯特威斯,从彭赞斯到阿伯丁,它不会均匀分布。 英格兰的整个地区、城镇和部分城镇将被部分移民和移民后裔人口占据。

    随着时间的推移,这些移民后裔的比例,在英国出生的,与我们其他人完全一样的路线到达这里的人,将迅速增加。
     
    真的可以做数学。 实际上可以从今天的某些政策中进行预测,并了解它对未来的预示。

    保守党政策的第三个要素是,所有在这个国家的公民在法律面前一律平等,公共当局不得对他们进行歧视或区别对待。 正如希思先生所说,我们将没有“一等公民”和“二等公民”。 这并不意味着移民及其后代应该被提升为特权或特殊阶层,或者公民应该被剥夺在管理自己的事务时在同胞和另一个公民之间进行歧视的权利,或者他应该受到强加他以一种合法方式而不是另一种方式行事的理由和动机.
     
    了解结社自由。 和爱管闲事的超级国家。


    没有比那些大声要求立法的人所接受的更严重的误解了试图让这个国家对它所面临的日益严重的危险视而不见,或者让住在宫殿里的大主教们,小心翼翼地把被单拉到头上。 他们完全错误地理解了这一点。

    歧视和剥夺,惊恐和怨恨的感觉不在于移民人口,而在于他们已经来过和仍然来过的人。
     
    了解结社自由和少数主义对这些基本权利的攻击。


    没有什么比将英国的英联邦移民与美国黑人进行比较更容易产生误导的了。 美国的黑人人口在美国成为一个国家之前就已经存在,从字面上看是奴隶,后来被赋予了公民权和其他公民权利,他们只是逐渐地并且仍然不完全地行使这些权利.
     
    有眼睛。 还有一个大脑。 能够向他人学习。 可以区分。


    这位英联邦移民以完全公民身份来到英国,来到一个不存在公民之间歧视的国家,他立即拥有了每个公民的权利,从投票到国民医疗服务体系下的免费治疗。

    移民遇到的任何不利因素都不是来自法律、公共政策或行政管理,而是来自那些导致并将永远导致一个人的命运和经验与另一个人不同的个人情况和意外。
     
    了解自然。 拒绝白板。

    现在,我们看到反对融合的积极力量在增长,既得利益在保持和加剧种族和宗教差异方面的增长,以期首先对移民同胞,然后对其他人口实行实际统治. 这团不比人手大的云,可以如此迅速地覆盖天空,最近在伍尔弗汉普顿已经出现,并显示出迅速蔓延的迹象。 17 月 XNUMX 日,我将逐字逐句地在当地媒体上使用的话,不是我的,而是一位现任政府部长的工党议员所说的:

    “锡克教社区”在英国维持不适当习俗的运动令人遗憾。 在英国工作,特别是在公共服务部门工作,他们应该准备好接受他们的就业条款和条件。 要求特殊的公共权利(或者应该说是仪式?)会导致社会内部出现危险的分裂。 这种社区主义是一种溃疡; 无论是用一种颜色还是另一种颜色,都将受到强烈谴责。
     
    了解少数派。 及其邪恶。

    ~~~

    我们的伊诺克鲍威尔在哪里? 在哪里?

    回复:@Anon,@Edward Dett

    Consider Carl Benjamin’s essay “Five False Assumptions of Liberalism” on Lotus Eaters website and YouTube interviews about the essay.

  112. @Reg Cæsar
    Does "2 times higher" mean "twice" or "thrice"? Double or treble?

    请原谅斯波克先生的行为。

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Joseph Farnsworth

    This isn’t hard, Reg. If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 12-ft tall or twice as tall. If you are 2-times taller than Joe, you are three-times as tall as Joe or thrice as tall. So the Redneck farmer was correct in his response to your question. “2 times higher” means 3-times as high.

    • 回复: @Juvenalis
    @约瑟夫法恩斯沃思


    If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 12-ft tall or twice as tall. “2 times higher” means 3-times as high.
     
    6 1 = 6
    If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 6-ft tall or once as tall.
    “2 times higher” means 2-times as high, i.e. twice as high.
    And if you are 3-times higher today, you are thrice as high as usual.

    回复:@Joseph Farnsworth

  113. @ginger bread man
    有人会说白人犯了更多的枪支犯罪。

    一项有趣的后续研究将细分媒体对枪支犯罪的种族关注程度,以及它是否与此类犯罪的真正种族细分成比例。 我的印象,就像史蒂夫关于法律和秩序 SVU 所指出的那样,一般来说,白人凶杀案和枪支犯罪的报道不仅远远超过它们在现实世界中的比例,而且可能占所有报道的 50% 以上。 这将导致《纽约时报》的普通读者相信白人犯下超过 50% 的枪支杀人案,这是有道理的,因为所有种族的枪支犯罪率大致相同。

    Replies: @Rooster16, @Veteran Aryan, @Revelation

    • 回复: @ginger bread man
    @启示

    Thank you for providing homicide statistics broken down by race. Unfortunately, the studies and stats you shared did not address my research questions.

    What I’m looking to measure is

    1. white and black 看法 of criminality broken down by race.
    - has anyone done a survey and asked 1000 people the following questions “what percent of homicides are committed by each race” “what is the racial breakdown of the United States?”

    2. Mainstream media coverage of homicides and other violent crimes by race.
    - Does the NYtimes/Washington post/ny post report gun crimes (homicides/suicides/attempted murder) proportionately to how frequently each racial group commits said crimes?

  114. @Harry Baldwin
    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,超过一半的自称为自由派或非常自由派的人认为,1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人被警察谋杀,而保守派猜测这个数字约为 10 人。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    So if you asked liberals how high the per capita murder offending rate for blacks is compared to that of non-Hispanic whites, you'd probably get an answer like "half as high," "equal" or perhaps "1.5 times higher." Most moderate conservatives would also probably guess low.

    It would be interesting to get the answer, but to even ask the question would be considered outrageous, like asking, "How much lower do you think average black IQ is than that of non-Hispanic whites."

    Replies: @International Jew, @Hypnotoad666, @SMK, @Hegar

    As Jared Taylor has noted many times, blacks are 25-30 times more likely to murder whites than vice-versa. And what percentage and number of blacks who murder whites aren’t convicted (like O.J. Simpson), prosecuted, indicted, or even arrested, so their murders don’t even count or exist statistically.

    And how many whites have been convicted of murder for shooting and killing blacks in obvious self-defense, like the 3 men in Georgia who were just convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison for the “murder” of a black thug and also charged with violating his “civil rights” by Joe Biden’s and Merrick Garland’s Justice Dept.?

    And Derrick Chauvin was convicted of murder and sentenced to 22-years and 6-months in prison for simply doing his job in arresting and subduing George Floyd -if, at worst, a bit callously and carelessly- who likely would still have died of a meth and fentanyl induced heart attack even if Chauvin hadn’t knelt on his back for a few minutes.

    • 回复: @Art Deco
    @SMK

    As Jared Taylor has noted many times, blacks are 25-30 times more likely to murder whites than vice-versa.

    About 9% of all homicides feature a black perpetrator and a non-black victim. About 4% feature a non-black perpetrator and a black victim.

    回复:@Jack D

  115. @International Jew
    @罗斯

    What is "Library Genesis" and how does it work? Will it allow me to see this book without paying the $45 Amazon charges for it?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @J.Ross, @Tristero

    Another such book source, which sometimes has things not on Libgen, is b-ok.org

  116. @Harry Baldwin
    一项调查由 怀疑论者网 去年发现,超过一半的自称为自由派或非常自由派的人认为,1,000 年有 2019 名或更多手无寸铁的黑人被警察谋杀,而保守派猜测这个数字约为 10 人。根据 “华盛顿邮报” 数据库,数量为12。

    So if you asked liberals how high the per capita murder offending rate for blacks is compared to that of non-Hispanic whites, you'd probably get an answer like "half as high," "equal" or perhaps "1.5 times higher." Most moderate conservatives would also probably guess low.

    It would be interesting to get the answer, but to even ask the question would be considered outrageous, like asking, "How much lower do you think average black IQ is than that of non-Hispanic whites."

    Replies: @International Jew, @Hypnotoad666, @SMK, @Hegar

    A survey produced by Skeptic.com last year found that more than half the people who identify as liberal or very liberal believe 1,000 or more unarmed black men were murdered by police in 2019, while conservatives guessed the number to be about 10. According to the Washington Post database, the number was 12.

    They weren’t “murdered”. In almost all twelve cases the Black was attacking the police, trying to grab the policeman’s weapon or reaching for another weapon.

    Aside from that, research shows police are more likely to shoot White suspects than Black suspects. Whites get no protection from the media or politicians.

  117. @SMK
    哈里·鲍德温(Harry Baldwin)

    As Jared Taylor has noted many times, blacks are 25-30 times more likely to murder whites than vice-versa. And what percentage and number of blacks who murder whites aren't convicted (like O.J. Simpson), prosecuted, indicted, or even arrested, so their murders don't even count or exist statistically.

    And how many whites have been convicted of murder for shooting and killing blacks in obvious self-defense, like the 3 men in Georgia who were just convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison for the "murder" of a black thug and also charged with violating his "civil rights" by Joe Biden's and Merrick Garland's Justice Dept.?

    And Derrick Chauvin was convicted of murder and sentenced to 22-years and 6-months in prison for simply doing his job in arresting and subduing George Floyd -if, at worst, a bit callously and carelessly- who likely would still have died of a meth and fentanyl induced heart attack even if Chauvin hadn't knelt on his back for a few minutes.

    回复:@Art Deco

    As Jared Taylor has noted many times, blacks are 25-30 times more likely to murder whites than vice-versa.

    About 9% of all homicides feature a black perpetrator and a non-black victim. About 4% feature a non-black perpetrator and a black victim.

    • 回复: @Jack D
    @艺术装饰

    You are leaving out the fact that there are 5x as many whites as blacks so on a per capita basis the odds of a black person killing a white are many times greater than that of a white person killing a black. Also does "non-black" include Hispanic "whites"/browns? It's very easy to play games with stats to make the disparities appear less stark than they really are. A black male is on average something like 100x times more likely to commit homicide than a white female.

    回复:@Art Deco

  118. @anon
    @阿农


    摆在他们面前的关键统计数据和来源是什么?
     
    尽管大多数图书馆都不受这些事实的影响,但我最喜欢的统计数据之一是跨种族暴力犯罪率。 事实证明,黑人攻击白人比白人攻击黑人要多得多。 在过去几年中,典型的数字是黑人对白人实施了大约 500,000 次暴力袭击,而白人对黑人实施了大约 50,000 次暴力袭击。 这个 10 倍的差异很高,但是当你考虑到人口中大约有 1/5 的黑人这一事实时,黑人攻击白人的总体比率几乎比白人攻击黑人的比率高 5000%。

    这也意味着在美国,每 60 秒就有一名黑人强奸、抢劫、袭击或杀害一名白人。 你在新闻上见过多少这样的罪行?

    Replies: @David In TN, @James Speaks, @Curle

    The disparities have been around for a long time:

    “Yet it was a fact universally acknowledged, even among the friends of the race, that the escaped slaves who moved into the southern tier of Pennsylvania counties were notoriously criminal. One report statewide showed the black population ratio at 1:33 and the black crime rate at 1:3. Furthermore, of black criminals, some 66.3 percent had come from slave states. Apologists cited the want of education and work opportunities, as well as the temptations of liquor, all of which certainly contributed to these deplorable statistics.”

    “In some years the black crime rate was four times that of whites. Based on the records of the Eastern State Penitentiary, for the seven years before 1837, blacks committed 36 percent of the criminal acts in Philadelphia, at a time when they represented 9 percent of the city’s population. These figures continued at about the same rate over the next ten years and showed only slight improvement up to the Civil War. “

    http://slavenorth.com/pennrace.htm

  119. @AceDeuce
    @NOTA


    Also, nobody cares about being neighbors with a black doctor or a Mexican dentist, they just want to avoid the underclass, which is disproportionately black and hispanic.
     
    I wouldn't want to live next to those examples you gave, either. Why is there this desperate mania for trying to establish/salvage a relationship with some negro, any negro?

    回复:@Jack D

    I had a mixed race couple as immediate neighbors. The black wife was one of the nicest people I ever knew (of course she died young). Their 100% white replacements were bastards from day 1. So you really have to look at the individual and not the race.

    Nor was the black woman some sort of talented 10th Caribbean paper bag test mulatto. She somehow had escaped the ghetto and become a professional but she told us stories about her family members who were still stuck in the ghetto – IIRC her brother was a garbage man in New Haven. One of the reasons why it is hard for blacks to save money (besides the fact that they like to spend it on crap) is that if a black is successful his (or her) less successful relatives are always hitting them up for money to make bail or keep from being evicted or whatever.

    I didn’t seek out a relationship with this couple just so I could brag that “some of my best friends are black”. They just happened to live next door and she was the kind of person who made friends with everyone.

    • 回复: @Curle
    @杰克D

    这个:

    “less successful relatives are always hitting them up for money”

  120. @Art Deco
    @SMK

    As Jared Taylor has noted many times, blacks are 25-30 times more likely to murder whites than vice-versa.

    About 9% of all homicides feature a black perpetrator and a non-black victim. About 4% feature a non-black perpetrator and a black victim.

    回复:@Jack D

    You are leaving out the fact that there are 5x as many whites as blacks so on a per capita basis the odds of a black person killing a white are many times greater than that of a white person killing a black. Also does “non-black” include Hispanic “whites”/browns? It’s very easy to play games with stats to make the disparities appear less stark than they really are. A black male is on average something like 100x times more likely to commit homicide than a white female.

    • 回复: @Art Deco
    @杰克D

    No, I'm not leaving anything of significance out. Posit for a moment that people on each side of the color bar had similar propensities toward violent crime and that their victims are a random selection. The share of white &c -on-black homicides would be as follows:

    0.87 x .13 = 0.113

    The share of black-on-white &c homicides would be as follows:

    = 0.13 0.87 0.113


    Actually, black-on-white &c are 2.2x as common as the remainder.

  121. Knowing what those words mean has absolutely nothing to do with mathematics. The greatest mathematicians in the world might not know what any of those words mean.

    That is so theoretical as to be absurd. That is like saying that just because someone has never heard the word “therefore”, they are not capable of writing a great novel in English.

    Is it theoretically possible for someone who has never heard the word “therefore” to write a great novel in English? Yes. Is there even a one in a million chance of this actually happening? No.

    Anyone kid with math skills at a level of 8th grade or higher knows what nano, pico, giga, and tera mean, as does anyone with any technology exposure or computer skills (gigabits, terabytes, etc.). To claim that knowing what those prefixes mean have nothing to do with mathematical knowledge is absurd in the extreme.

    So your bizarre argument falls flat, just like AnotherDud’s did.

    What is weird is that you go to extreme lengths to excuse Steve Sailer of gaps in his knowledge (since you have even less knowledge), but you would never consider actually donating some money to the poor man. If he is your hero and a source of inspiration, donate to the man.

    • 回复: @Thomm
    @汤姆


    That is so theoretical as to be absurd. That is like saying that just because someone has never heard the word “therefore”, they are nonetheless still capable of writing a great novel in English.
     
    固定。

    Here is the thing. Knowing what nano, pico, giga, and tera mean does not in and of itself make someone good at math, but NOT knowing what they mean indicates with 99.99999% certainty that the person is quite innumerate. Again, any 14 year old destined for any sort of quantitative or computer-oriented career already knows what those prefixes mean. Hell, the people who work in the technology section at Wal-Mart know what those mean.

    It is funny that this even has to be spelled out. Such are the travails of trying to explain simple things to an 80 IQ crowd.

  122. @Thomm

    Knowing what those words mean has absolutely nothing to do with mathematics. The greatest mathematicians in the world might not know what any of those words mean.
     
    That is so theoretical as to be absurd. That is like saying that just because someone has never heard the word "therefore", they are not capable of writing a great novel in English.

    Is it theoretically possible for someone who has never heard the word "therefore" to write a great novel in English? Yes. Is there even a one in a million chance of this actually happening? No.

    Anyone kid with math skills at a level of 8th grade or higher knows what nano, pico, giga, and tera mean, as does anyone with any technology exposure or computer skills (gigabits, terabytes, etc.). To claim that knowing what those prefixes mean have nothing to do with mathematical knowledge is absurd in the extreme.

    So your bizarre argument falls flat, just like AnotherDud's did.

    What is weird is that you go to extreme lengths to excuse Steve Sailer of gaps in his knowledge (since you have even less knowledge), but you would never consider actually donating some money to the poor man. If he is your hero and a source of inspiration, donate to the man.

    回复:@Thomm

    That is so theoretical as to be absurd. That is like saying that just because someone has never heard the word “therefore”, they are nonetheless still capable of writing a great novel in English.

    固定。

    Here is the thing. Knowing what nano, pico, giga, and tera mean does not in and of itself make someone good at math, but NOT knowing what they mean indicates with 99.99999% certainty that the person is quite innumerate. Again, any 14 year old destined for any sort of quantitative or computer-oriented career already knows what those prefixes mean. Hell, the people who work in the technology section at Wal-Mart know what those mean.

    It is funny that this even has to be spelled out. Such are the travails of trying to explain simple things to an 80 IQ crowd.

    • 巨魔: William Badwhite
  123. @Thomm
    An


    Most people are simply not mathematical thinkers at all. They have some handy life rules, but they simply do not think the way Steve thinks, they way I think.
     
    LOL. To call Steve a 'mathematical thinker' is a stretch, since even he didn't know what nano, pico, giga, and tera meant until he got called on it two years ago. Even though this could be looked up in a few seconds. It is not just the ignorance, but the blissful incuriosity.

    I agree that Steve is a 'mathematical thinker' relative to WN wiggers that comprise his audience. But that is saying absolutely nothing about absolute mathematical aptitude.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Jim, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Maybe we should ask Jake the Dog and Finn the Human what they mean when they say “Mathematical!”

  124. @ForeverCARealist
    @嘉宾007

    我女儿是洛杉矶郊区的钢琴老师。 如果你问她,她会说加利福尼亚的人口是 100% 的亚裔。

    回复:@Brutusale

    我的弦乐老师嫂子会告诉你佛罗里达州温特帕克周围地区的相同情况。 带着一点点的想法。

  125. @Harry Baldwin
    @史蒂夫·塞勒

    Hartford: 44.69% Latino

    New Britain: 42.7% Latino

    Bridgeport: 42% Latino

    Waterbury: 36.65% Latino

    Bridgeport, Hartford, and Waterbury are among the five largest cities in the state, all have a population over 100,000. There are a lot of Latinos in CT.

    回复:@Prester John,@Brutusale

    Be they black or Hispanic, Connecticut has the highest murder rate in New England.

  126. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1559316078232322050
    https://twitter.com/GeorgeGascon/status/1559298298053177344

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-last-living-holocaust-mass-murderer/
    https://twitter.com/DavidColeStein/status/1559581632624922624

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AnotherDad, @bispora

    As a Hungarian guy, I must apologize for Schwartz György…

  127. @Jack D
    @艺术装饰

    You are leaving out the fact that there are 5x as many whites as blacks so on a per capita basis the odds of a black person killing a white are many times greater than that of a white person killing a black. Also does "non-black" include Hispanic "whites"/browns? It's very easy to play games with stats to make the disparities appear less stark than they really are. A black male is on average something like 100x times more likely to commit homicide than a white female.

    回复:@Art Deco

    No, I’m not leaving anything of significance out. Posit for a moment that people on each side of the color bar had similar propensities toward violent crime and that their victims are a random selection. The share of white &c -on-black homicides would be as follows:

    0.87 x .13 = 0.113

    The share of black-on-white &c homicides would be as follows:

    = 0.13 0.87 0.113

    Actually, black-on-white &c are 2.2x as common as the remainder.

  128. @Jack D
    @AceDeuce

    I had a mixed race couple as immediate neighbors. The black wife was one of the nicest people I ever knew (of course she died young). Their 100% white replacements were bastards from day 1. So you really have to look at the individual and not the race.

    Nor was the black woman some sort of talented 10th Caribbean paper bag test mulatto. She somehow had escaped the ghetto and become a professional but she told us stories about her family members who were still stuck in the ghetto - IIRC her brother was a garbage man in New Haven. One of the reasons why it is hard for blacks to save money (besides the fact that they like to spend it on crap) is that if a black is successful his (or her) less successful relatives are always hitting them up for money to make bail or keep from being evicted or whatever.

    I didn't seek out a relationship with this couple just so I could brag that "some of my best friends are black". They just happened to live next door and she was the kind of person who made friends with everyone.

    回复:@Curle

    这个:

    “less successful relatives are always hitting them up for money”

  129. @Joseph Farnsworth
    @RegCæsar

    This isn't hard, Reg. If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 12-ft tall or twice as tall. If you are 2-times taller than Joe, you are three-times as tall as Joe or thrice as tall. So the Redneck farmer was correct in his response to your question. "2 times higher" means 3-times as high.

    回复:@Juvenalis

    If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 12-ft tall or twice as tall. “2 times higher” means 3-times as high.

    6 1 = 6
    If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 6-ft tall or once as tall.
    “2 times higher” means 2-times as high, i.e. twice as high.
    And if you are 3-times higher today, you are thrice as high as usual.

    • 回复: @Joseph Farnsworth
    @Juvenalis

    If you are 10% taller than 6-ft tall Joe, you are 6.6 ft tall, not 0.6 ft tall. If you are 10% as tall as Joe, you are 0.6 ft tall. Many people are not attuned to differences, especially "directed differences" which can be positive or negative (He increased by negative 5 means he decreased by plus 5 ).
    But this is frequently chewed over by mathematicians, physicists and engineers who frequently have to deal with "signed" directed quantities. The derivative of a function of independent variable x can be positive or negative depending on what direction you assign as positive for the x-axis. A positive increment of function y divided by a negative increment of x results in a negative derivative, in the limit, as delta-x approaches zero.
    我们
    https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/simple-math-question.391912/

  130. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @阿农


    我试图解释说,足球队实际上与他所声称的相反,这是对爱尔兰的误导和歪曲,让人觉得这个国家有 30% 是黑人,而实际上是橄榄球队更准确地反映了爱尔兰社会。
     
    矛盾的是,在爱尔兰和不列颠群岛,橄榄球这种更加暴力的运动是收费私立学校的上层阶级的运动,而足球是下层阶级青睐的运动。

    The Irish first XV has had players of foreign origin - Simon Zebo and Bundee Aki come to mind. But rugby players are going to tend to be the products of elite private educational institutions even if the players have foreign origins - you're more likely to get a foreign origin player from Kenya who went to a private school there which trains in rugby than you are to have a home-grown black kid from low economic status play rugby at a high level. So the IRFU sides are generally the graduates of a handful of boy's rugby powerhouse schools mostly in Leinster and Munster.

    But otherwise you are correct. I lived in Dublin in the 1990s and you really wouldn't see people who didn't look Irish - if you did, they were kids in private schools near the rows of embassies in South Dublin, or people who were likely diplomats or attached to foreign employers with an Irish presence. It's really changed, and not for the better.

    回复:@International Jew

    Is this “Rugby Union Football” a professional league, ie can one make much money at it? Inasmuch as Rugby resembles American Football, I’d expect blacks to eventually dominate it too, just provided there’s sufficient economic incentive.

  131. @Revelation
    @姜面包人

    It has been studied, extensively. If you've never heard about these studies before, you should ask yourself how something so well established passes as something "no one ever studied before".

    请参见:

    https://i.imgur.com/MNj0dyS.png

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/expanded_homicide_data_table_3_murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2015.xls

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2015/12/15/guns-and-race-the-different-worlds-of-black-and-white-americans/

    https://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to-the-united-states-demographics-vs-guns/

    https://crimeresearch.org/2014/03/comparing-murder-rates-across-countries/

    回复:@ginger Bread man

    Thank you for providing homicide statistics broken down by race. Unfortunately, the studies and stats you shared did not address my research questions.

    What I’m looking to measure is

    1. white and black 看法 of criminality broken down by race.
    – has anyone done a survey and asked 1000 people the following questions “what percent of homicides are committed by each race” “what is the racial breakdown of the United States?”

    2. Mainstream media coverage of homicides and other violent crimes by race.
    – Does the NYtimes/Washington post/ny post report gun crimes (homicides/suicides/attempted murder) proportionately to how frequently each racial group commits said crimes?

  132. @Bardon Kaldian
    @国际犹太人

    Go to Libgen, https://www.libgen.is/; type in search & perhaps you'll find what you want. Click on the cover. Then, you'll be led to Get or something. Books (and articles) are in various formats (pdf, epub, mobi,..).

    您也可以搜索文章。

    https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/bafykbzacebsg5ej6dosztv6zwmp4f64zrnjaomelq3ki5tvojpajg4lnlfixs?filename=Scott%20Cummings%20-%20Left%20Behind%20In%20Rosedale_%20Race%20Relations%20And%20The%20Collapse%20Of%20Community%20Institutions-Routledge%20%281998%29.pdf

    回复:@International Jew

    I managed to borrow this book (for one hour but hey it was free) from archive.org. Totally legit, not need to turn to bootleggers and phishing operations.

  133. @Juvenalis
    @约瑟夫法恩斯沃思


    If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 12-ft tall or twice as tall. “2 times higher” means 3-times as high.
     
    6 1 = 6
    If Joe is 6-ft tall and you are 1-times taller than Joe, you are 6-ft tall or once as tall.
    “2 times higher” means 2-times as high, i.e. twice as high.
    And if you are 3-times higher today, you are thrice as high as usual.

    回复:@Joseph Farnsworth

    If you are 10% taller than 6-ft tall Joe, you are 6.6 ft tall, not 0.6 ft tall. If you are 10% as tall as Joe, you are 0.6 ft tall. Many people are not attuned to differences, especially “directed differences” which can be positive or negative (He increased by negative 5 means he decreased by plus 5 ).
    But this is frequently chewed over by mathematicians, physicists and engineers who frequently have to deal with “signed” directed quantities. The derivative of a function of independent variable x can be positive or negative depending on what direction you assign as positive for the x-axis. A positive increment of function y divided by a negative increment of x results in a negative derivative, in the limit, as delta-x approaches zero.
    我们
    https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/simple-math-question.391912/

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