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众所周知,在星期四晚上,得克萨斯州达拉斯市的居民正在该市市中心举行示威活动,礼貌地诵经 “毯子里的猪!” 和“ F-警察!” 而市警察部门则在维持秩序。

米卡克斯突然从附近的一幢高楼上开枪, 针对警察 到结束时,五名军官死亡,另外七人受伤。 枪手 确定 as 米卡·约翰逊(Micah X.Johnson),一名25岁的黑人也死亡,被警察杀害。 我们仍然不知道是否还有其他射手。

该说些什么? 让我们从原始演示开始。 这些公民在抗议什么?

警察被射击的黑人。 最近几天有三宗个案

  • 案例一:在4月37日星期一早上的凌晨,XNUMX岁的纽约布鲁克林的Delrawn Small被一名值班警务人员开枪射击。

这是一起公路大怒事件。 小以为警察把他拒之门外。 他跟随警察大约七个街区到一个交通信号灯。 然后他下车,跑到警察的车上,这辆车没有标记,然后开始 冲警察 通过打开的侧窗。 警察拿出他的左轮手枪,枪杀了在现场死亡的小先生。 [驾车者似乎在致命射击前要下班警察, 肖恩·科恩(Shawn Cohen)和娜塔莉·穆苏梅奇(Natalie Musumeci),《纽约邮报》,7年2016月XNUMX日]

我们有关于这部影片的视频,但在我们进行录音时尚未发布。 警察的名字叫韦恩·艾萨克斯(Wayne Isaacs)。 我以为他是白人,但我在任何地方都没有看到证实的内容,也找不到图像。

  • 第二案:在洛杉矶的巴吞鲁日,星期二清晨,另一个同样是37岁的黑人奥尔顿·斯特林(Alton Sterling)遇到了两名白人警察,他们回应了911的枪声。 来电者说,他曾向斯特林要钱,于是斯特林对他开了枪。

两名警察显然试图逮捕斯特林先生,他进行了一场斗争,结果以他在地上结束,警察跪在他身上,但他的手仍然自由—就是自由地开枪,或者 抢一把警察的枪。 此时,一位警察开枪打死了他,原因尚不清楚。 斯特林在现场死亡。

https://twitter.com/Nero/status/750759858996060160

我们有 视频 关于这一点,但对于导致警察开枪射击英镑的决定性因素都没有。

  • 案例三:星期三晚上,在明尼阿波利斯郊区,一个32岁的黑人Philando Castile被一名西班牙裔警察拉了过来,他说他的尾灯坏了。 卡斯蒂利亚的女友和一个四岁的孩子和他一起上了车。 警察开枪射击了卡斯蒂利亚先生。

我们没有枪击事件的录像,但随后女友在乘客座位上立即制作了录像,因为卡斯蒂利亚在她旁边严重受伤。 卡斯蒂利亚在半小时后死亡。 (最新注释:ConservativeTreeHouse.com是 报告,显然有确凿的细节,证明卡斯蒂利亚是持械抢劫嫌疑犯。)

当然还有抗议活动,示威游行,烛光守夜,以及其他地方的其他活动。 Black Lives Matter组织者正在加班。Al Sharpton在移动 …您知道脚本。

就这三起枪击事件而言,我的直觉是:让我们拭目以待,然后进行调查。

根据我们掌握的粗略信息,有可能三枪都被证明是正确的。 而且它们可能都不是,或者有些不是,而其他则不是。

您不知道,我也不知道。阿尔·夏普顿(Al Sharpton)也不-星期四在达拉斯的示威者也没有。

的幽灵 叙述性崩溃 现在将鼠标悬停在所有此类事件上。 由黑人种族活动家和主流媒体Goodwhites推崇和推广的叙事是无情的白人权威人物,对无助,无害的黑人施加暴力。 MSM竭尽所能来加强这种叙述。 这就是为什么 最广为人知的照片 特雷冯·马丁(Trayvon Martin)的照片,17年乔治·齐默尔曼(George Zimmerman)射杀他时才2012岁,当时他是 十二 岁。

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在太多情况下,当所有细节都输入时,最初的MSM叙述会崩溃。

在这里三个死去的黑人中,两个显然是 不能 无害。 Delrawn Small的说唱很长,列出了19个逮捕人。 他曾任职 在1996年至2010年期间因试图抢劫,试图将毒品出售给秘密警察和刺伤而入狱。 不是无害的。

奥尔顿·斯特林

奥尔顿·斯特林也有一个 说唱歌手表现出重罪逮捕。 在过去的21年中,他的出庭经历包括殴打和加重殴打,公开恐吓,对少年的肉体知识,家庭暴力,盗窃,收受赃物,抢劫,盗窃,吸毒,拒捕,拥有赃物枪支,未经同意就无法进行声音复制,也没有注册为性犯罪者。 [英镑射击:随着联邦调查局接管调查,抗议活动仍在继续,WTVM.com,7年2016月XNUMX日]

第三位被枪杀者Philando Castile可能没有受到伤害:他唯一的刑事犯罪是低级的交通不端行为。 在这三种情况中,这是您不得不说遭受的可能性最小的一种 叙述性崩溃 尽管就目前为止我们所知,射击并非没有道理。

XNUMXD压花不锈钢板 这里的根本问题:黑人中极高的暴力和犯罪率。

差异确实很大。 但是政府和 MSM 做他们的 最好把它们淡化,怕我们 坏白 农民将与 干草叉和火红的品牌。 因此,当您向他们展示数字时,普通公民会感到震惊,甚至不敢相信。

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我的同事 埃德温·S·鲁宾斯坦 在他的小册子中参考了官方资料整理了这些数字 犯罪的色彩。 这是一个 随机夫妇:

  • 2013 年,黑人谋杀的可能性是非黑人的六倍
  • 黑人攻击白人的可能性是反之的 27 倍。

等等。如果您将西班牙裔美国人从非黑色类别中删除(这很难做到,因为当局希望您不要这样做)凶杀的区别 更大。

在一个黑人生活在非黑人之中的社会中,我们所有人都将黑人视为危险是自然而合理的。 对于我们中产阶级在社会化程度很高的中产阶级黑人中流动而言,这并不是一个很大的因素。 但对于 警察,必须与下层阶级打交道,每次相遇都必须在他们的脑海中浮现。

难怪在逮捕和交通停止情况下,他们正在触发问题。

对此没有太多要做。 平均而言,黑人人口较低的智力,较低的冲动控制, 以及比非黑人人群更高的人际暴力。 警察必须应对这种情况,这比我们其他人更需要。

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在特定情况下,警察可能会做出愚蠢的事情或行为不称职吗? 我确定会发生。 在美国,我们有十亿分之三的人,其中近一百万在执法中。 如果没有一次又一次的在职搞砸,那将是惊人的。

如果搞砸了,是黑色警探上的白色警察,那当然会因为我们关于种族的全国性神经病而崩溃。 但是,没有人注意到太多的问题。

您可以通过与警察平常的日常接触扩大规模。 有些警察是混蛋。 就像我们其他人一样,大多数不是混蛋的警察偶尔也会举手投足。

当这发生在白人公民身上时,他想:“这个警察真是个混蛋。 最好表现得温柔而彬彬有礼,否则我将永远无法及时回家吃晚饭。”

但是一个黑人公民认为:“这里是白人,仍在努力压制黑人!” 它 让他生气 白人公民所没有的规模。

警察只是混蛋的想法并没有引起他的注意。 从幼稚园到他,一生都饱受叙事的困扰 电影和电视 所有机构和媒体,都是白色种族主义之一。 他就是这样看的。

所以总的来说,我不得不说,警察也很同情我,即使他们很混蛋。

那该怎么办呢? 有没有 什么 要做什么?

更好了。 我不希望我的孩子必须生活在这个分裂的社会中。

这是几件事 不能 做。

  • 注意建制政客。

例如,明尼苏达州州长马克·代顿(Mark Dayton),该州的前参议员,民主党人以及中西部尼斯风格的生动,活泼的体现—正如我之前认为的那样,也许有一天会成为我们所有人的死亡。 他在星期四举行新闻发布会, before 达拉斯的谋杀案,涉及Philando Castile的枪击事件。 引用:

如果那些乘客是白人,这会发生吗? 我认为不会。 因此,我被迫面对,并且我认为明尼苏达州的我们所有人都被迫面对,这种种族主义的存在。

[明尼苏达州州长关于菲兰多·卡斯蒂利亚之死:如果他是白人,他仍然会活着,ThinkProgress,7年2016月XNUMX日]

总督肯定是对的:如果Philando Castile是白人,那么他很可能不会被枪杀。 在拍摄后的视频中收听警察的声音。 他是 害怕。 当他看进去并看到他拉过一个年轻的黑人时,可能会感到害怕。

他被吓到了是对的:年轻的黑人比任何其他类型的驾驶员都危险得多-更加冲动,更加 侵略性,更有可能被武装。 同样,只需查看犯罪统计即可。

警察遵守这些统计数据。 他们认识他们。 他们知道害怕年轻的黑人。

代顿州长称此为“种族主义”。 可以使用任何喜欢的词,州政府,但是要让警察特别害怕,特别紧张,是的,在面对一个年轻黑人时,特别容易出错是常识和自我保护。

如果您是警察,您也将……当然不是。 你是职业政治家。

这是另外一个建立警察。 星期五早上 福克斯和朋友 他们让Newt Gingrich发表评论。

纽特(Newt)的声誉比普通国会议员要聪明,原因是:1)他教过大学,(2)他在共和党人中发挥了重要作用,1994年获得了众议院的控制,这是几十年来的第一次。

对不起,没有出售。 纽特(Newt)的助理教授是历史与地理学,(绝对不会对任何人有冒犯)在我的学术成就计量表中注册,成为媒体研究上的一两笔费用。 他的政治天才声誉在起飞后不久就崩溃了,在1995年政府关闭时被烧毁,当时 比尔·克林顿(Bill Clinton)强迫纽特弯腰 像猪一样尖叫。

在过去的几十年中,我一定已经花了十几个小时来聆听Newt在电视节目或其他节目中发表的观点。 我不记得他说什么有意义的话。

有一次我从他的桌子对面问他关于移民的问题,我什么都没得到,只有空的皮瓣。

纽特的傻瓜,我会允许的。 那里什么都没有。

就这样了 福克斯和朋友。 纽特将当前情况归咎于“ 使太多黑人美国人陷入贫困。” 到底有什么政策? “庞大的官僚机构,庞大的政府,庞大的支出……”

嗯。

嘿,我是一个小政府人士。 联邦政府尤其是太大而专横。 我们是否应该缩减政府规模并将其许多职能私有化? 是的,我们应该。 在种族问题上,有帮助吗?

不,不会。

黑人没有得到依赖,因为政府规模很大。 如果有的话,因果关系的箭头则相反。 要对沸腾的黑锅盖上盖子,很多政府膨胀是必要的: 从事政府工作,福利计划,感觉很好 社交、教育举措,当然还有执法和监禁。

纽特是个白痴。 而且他绝不是最糟糕的政治人物。 听这些民意测验无济于事。

另一件事无济于事:

  • 聆听大脚怪评论员和公共知识分子。

除了我的自我差异,实际上,有很多评论员可以让美国人从中学到很多东西-Jared Taylor, 例如。 不幸的是,MSM的出口将以十英尺的杆碰到Jared。

因此,取而代之的是,我们从许可的黑客那里获得有关白人美国人如何提高态度的讲座。 我拿今天的 “纽约时报” 作为说明。

这里的 迈克尔埃里克戴森[给他发电子邮件]乔治敦大学的社会学教授-刚好在我的学术敬畏度表上刺破了针-并且, 练习 纽约时报,“全美最知名的公共知识分子之一。

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戴森(Dyson)的书架上装满了书,您可以在上面看到所有书 他的Amazon.com页面。 列出的前几个主题:美国的种族政治,Tupac Shakur(某种黑人流行歌手), 马丁·路德·金,Malcolm X, 嘻哈 (某种黑色流行音乐), 马文·加耶 (另一位黑人流行歌手), 马丁·路德·金 再次……等等,等等

摘要,为您节省阅读任何书籍的麻烦:Blackety-blackety-blackety-black,黑色黑色black-black black黑色black-black black blackety-black,blackety-blackety-blackety-black。 这是一个 全职专业的黑人.

不错的演出,如果你能得到……我当然不能……直到 种族主义 真正起飞。

那他要告诉我们什么?

标题: 白人美国看不到的东西. 7年2016月XNUMX日,这都是我们的错,您知道吗? 但您知道,除非过去四十年来一直睡着了。

报价示例-戴森在这里向白人讲话:

出生时,您会得到一副双筒望远镜,它们可以从远处看到黑色的生命,从不带有亲密感。 那些双筒望远镜是特权。 无论您属于哪个阶层,他们都是身份。 实际上,存在的最大特权就是让白人被警察拦住,并且在相遇结束时不会死掉。

真是个大便。 白种人 一直被警察开枪。 这是25月19日的照片:XNUMX岁的白人迪伦·诺布尔(Dylan Noble)在加利福尼亚的弗雷斯诺被警察开枪打死。 [新视频显示了弗雷斯诺警方对迪伦·诺布尔的致命射击, ABC7News.com,6年2016月XNUMX日]

与他们的人数成正比,黑人被警察杀死的人数是否比白人多? 是的,但这是因为-再次回到犯罪统计数据中-黑人是 比白人更无法无天。

警察追捕无法无天。 那就是我们为此付出的代价。

小牧师迈克尔·埃里克·戴森(Michael Eric Dyson)教授的另一个样本:

您要求最高法院退还您从中获得的收益:您可以在大学教室中占据更多的空间; 更好地控制您所控制的消防部门和警察部队的工作。 一直以来,你的怨恨在累积,而你的缓慢的仇恨却在不断累积。 您的白皙已成为您无法负担的沉重负担,因此您将其外包给邪恶的政治人物,后者会放大您最可憎的私人思想。

看看那里的逻辑, 机构。 东西是从我们白人那里拿来的:大学,警察和消防员的工作。

是的,那些东西 取自 合格的白人 并给予 不合格的黑人。 自然,我们会感到不满。

不过,谁拿走了? 是我们的白人同胞 艾伯特·怀特法官,政客, 大学 管理员。 这些是我们不满的人。 据我所知,没有人非常讨厌黑人。 几乎没有人考虑过他们,尽管黑人–世界上最伟大的固执主义者-发现这难以置信。

这是 冷战, Goodwhites对Badwhites。 黑人大多是 开战。 黑人什么都没做。 白人 使一切都发生。 双方的所有白人都知道这一点。 没有人会因为“怨恨”而杀死黑人。

那么,什么 帮助吗?

在我们共和国的前180年左右,美国大部分地区的普遍看法都认为种族 不能 在行为,智力和人格的所有人类特征上具有完全相同的统计分布。 我们进一步认为法律和行政管理需要 不能 平等对待所有公民,不考虑种族。

当然,对正当程序,财产安全等有高层的承诺。 但是从根本上讲,法律上的隔离,免职,投票规则, 等等 在该国的大部分地区都广为接受。

第二次世界大战之后,我们(不是一次全部,也不是每个地方都没有同样的速度)切换到不同的国家意识形态。 我们假设种族是相同的。 但是我们仍然没有平等对待他们。 平权行动, 完全不同的影响, 合同制定者都保持了不平等的存在,尽管现在不平等当然有利于黑人。

实际上,这种不平等现象在21世纪变得更加严重。 进行了各种 司法召唤 为了扭曲法律和法规而有利于黑人,持续的黑人失败的事实可能会 仅由 通过假设我们对偏好的了解不够充分来进行解释。 需要有 更多平权行动, 更多 不同的影响裁定, 更多 种族偏见, 更多多样性配额。

但是效果不是很好吗? 如果种族真的一样,那么黑人继续糟糕的成绩只能被解释为整个美国的错。 我们做得还不够!

阅读本周末的大事记社论和Op-Eds; 听政客们的话。我们必须加倍努力!

而且当然, 黑人讨厌白人 由于他们的集体失败,比以往任何时候都多 只能是我们的错。 知道他们 恨我们,以及其中太多人有冲动性暴力,我们 恐惧 他们比以往任何时候都更多。

整个烂循环还在继续。

我的建议:让我们将国家意识形态全面转变为我们从未尝试过的配置。 让我们抛弃有某种方法可以使所有种族显示出相同的结果的想法,然后抛弃必须扭转法律和规则以支持一场竞赛胜于另一场种族的想法。

让我们的立法者,法学家和管理人员平等对待所有公民。 恢复竞争力 公务员职位的笔试。 让我们 精英晋升 在我们的代理商和公司中。 禁止公立大学接受除学术标准以外的任何条件的学生。

让我们开始平等对待人们,这是我们从未做过的事情。

让我们接受 小组结果不平等 当然是世界的自然特征。

然后,我们就可以不再将它们归咎于我们自己,或者归咎于“种族主义“或”特权设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

如果我们一次颠覆了意识形态,为什么我们不能再次颠覆它呢?

这有帮助吗? 它可能。

立即订购

约翰·德比郡[给他发电子邮件]写一个 数量惊人 关于各种主题适用于各种网点。 (这 不再包括 国家评论, 他们的编辑发脾气, 解雇了他。 ) 他是 作者 of 我们注定要失败:恢复保守的悲观主义 和其他几个 图书. 他没有wo VDARE.com出版的书籍: 异议权 (也可以在Kindle中使用) and 《异见人士权利之二:随笔》 2013。 他的著作被存档在约翰德比郡网站.

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  1. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Reality denials (and the ideology made of them) at a given time are replaced by a new ideology, built, first of all, on the denial of other realities.

    To judge history is to pick between different, and diverse arrays of most manifest falsehoods — that end up being not manifest to the masses, and the kind of mass called “intellectuals”, in this or that period.

    We are in the middle of a trend that is far from its apex: reality about race differences, and all other realities currently denied, will denied more and more, as facts and evidence will contrast with ideology more and more.

    Current problems and strain are no more than 10% of what would need to happen, for truths about race differences to be back in the culturally acceptable discussion.

    While one may guess the best solution to be a partition of the US into new race-exclusive states, reality (let’s not deny more of it) is the USA are going to be merged with Canada and Mexico, in a larger North American political entity.

  2. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    What made the shooter in case n. 2 fire his gun?

    Panic, fear of the unpredictable.

    Emotions that are always understandable in that cop’s situation, and are never as understandable as right now.

    *This comment discounts no actual abuse on the part of the police, and I am convinced that there’s being quite much of it. Tension will only augment the amount of misbehavior, on all parts.

    Was Al Sharpton on the move? Do you mean Reverend Baton, by chance?

  3. Truth 说:

    I agree Derb, afterall you accepted the reality of race when you got married…

    YOURS IN INFERIOR!

  4. Craken 说:

    左派的逻辑是,即使人们天生不平等,也必须通过任何必要的手段使他们平等。 在他们的神学中,没有比人类不平等更亵渎的了。 对平等的追求应该是徒劳的,这是他们甚至无法思考的想法。 对他们来说,这是最糟糕的虚无主义,如果它不是最糟糕的邪恶。 他们会做他们一直做的事情:抽象事实,用后启蒙运动的言论来笼罩空气。

    • 回复: @e
  5. Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn’t the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA, despite the best efforts of the cultural Marxists to whip up US-style hatred of whites.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
    , @Dr. X
    , @Jay Igaboo
  6. A well-written, well-reasoned piece, as is usual with John Derbyshire. But if we do what he suggests, how will blacks respond when they learn their new roles as “hewers of wood and drawers of water?” John has himself observed that one of the pressing problems of the 21st Century is the increasing irrelevance of the left-hand side of the bell curve, in which most blacks fall. I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland); or (2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) )in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers. An attempt to do either would probably spark and second American Civil War given the present situation. So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
    , @boogerbently
  7. Rich 说:

    Excellent analysis by Mr. Derbyshire. It’s unfortunate that a large segment of the population, when shown the statistics, still cannot process the real race problem in the US. Democrats are trying to get the black vote out for Hillary in November and they think playing this anti-cop game is going to do that. I don’t know why militant blacks would want to vote for a rich, old, white lady like Hillary but her camp appears to think starting a race war will get her elected, it doesn’t matter to them if a few people have to be killed in the process.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  8. Svigor 说:

    出生时,您会得到一副双筒望远镜,它们可以从远处看到黑色的生命,从不带有亲密感。 那些双筒望远镜是特权。 无论您属于哪个阶层,他们都是身份。 实际上,存在的最大特权就是让白人被警察拦住,并且在相遇结束时不会死掉。

    “Texture of intimacy.” Dat be some poetic sheeeeiiiit.

    I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don’t know what blacks go through. As if they have a clue what whites go through, which is a prerequisite of this assertion having any relevance.

    Blacks don’t know what whites go through. Whites don’t know what blacks go through. Nobody knows what anybody else goes through. Welcome to real life.

    Whites don’t have a race card they can play constantly, regardless of whether it’s valid, I know that much. When I’m pulled over and sat on the curb for 15 minutes for “matching the description of a rape suspect,” (it happened), it’s just a cigar.

  9. res 说:

    嘿,我是一个小政府人士。 联邦政府尤其是太大而专横。 我们是否应该缩减政府规模并将其许多职能私有化? 是的,我们应该。 在种族问题上,有帮助吗?

    不,不会。

    Blacks didn’t get dependent because government got big. If anything, the arrow of causation goes the other way. A lot of government bloat is necessary to keep a lid on the boiling black pot: make-work government jobs, welfare programs, feel good social and educational initiatives, and of course law enforcement and incarceration.

    One quibble, I think you should consider the possibility that the arrow of causation goes both ways (i.e. a positive feedback loop or vicious cycle). I believe that is what causes this problem to continue worsening so intractably.

    Dependency -> More Programs -> More Dependency -> …

  10. I had a thought on all this affirmative action business, and I don’t know it is original, but why not scrap all the race/nationality nonsense, and allow affirmative action for veterans and the children of veterans. Since minorities are disproportionately in the Armed Forces, the Ivies would be able to balance out their racial demographics and who is going to resent veterans? Sure, someone will, but it is much more justifiable than legal privilege for racial or national status.

    Second of all, if you had more veterans in the Cathedral and in the up-and-coming American elite, I could only imagine it would serve as a check on the idiot Left and what emanates from _______ Studies departments.

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
  11. Svigor 说:

    Blacks watch stupid sitcoms made by Jews, 7 hours a day of that crap, and think they know something about whites.

  12. TomSchmidt 说:

    Two words are the magic decoder ring that ends this: Design Thinking. I suggest you explore the field a bit, Derb, or drop me an email, and I can explain.

  13. Bugg 说:

    “better access to jobs in fire departments and police forces that you control.”

    Don’t pretend NYPD is representative of American law enforcement, but it is the largest police force in the country. Without details, my business finds me interacting with NYPD on a daily basis. For the latest break down available in 2014, NYPD is roughy 47% minority, has had several black commissioners and numerous black and Latino chiefs(one of whom, Philip Banks, was well on his way to becoming commissioner until the latest scandal laid him low) , makes a point of hiring as many minority officers as possible. Would suggest based on my eyeballs those numbers are trending to even more “diversity” . The current mayor, to whom NYPD answers, is an incompetent and corrupt leftist buffoon married to a black former lesbian.Personally care more about the work ethic and integrity of anyone I deal with than the color of their skin. But to say in this case white people control something is laughable.

    As to FDNY, there are many black and Latino guys on that job. It ay not be divers, but there are no reasons why such people could not take the test . But unscientifically black people do not like this kind of work(the same way Asian people seem to find their way to postal work, or Irish once did to police work). And most women are physically unsuited to carry people out of fires.

    Yet these myths get stated as absolute facts by idiots like 3 Name Dyson.

  14. @Harshmellow

    We sure as Hell would resent veterans’ kids getting an advantage over our kids in college admissions. Many soldiers and veterans are great guys, but guess what, many are not particularly intelligent or creative or even stable, especially the Africans.

    Stop trying to favor Africans through all these clever, less direct, nominally “race-neutral” methods. Just get the gov out of favoring anyone based on race.

    Also, it appears that the military is a lot less African (and a lot more Mexican) than it used to be. Preference for veterans’ skids probably won’t help Africans that much, then, going forward.

    It will help mexicans’ kids, who surely don’t need more discrimination in their favor against more-intelligent, more-qualified white and Asian Americans than they already have.

  15. Corvinus 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    “I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland)”

    A coward’s way out, yes. More importantly, are all whites on board with this proposal? Should they? If not, are they “anti-white”.

    “(2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) ) in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers.”

    Which is socialism. And, seriously, why are some “race realists” hell-bent on eugenics for only ONE group, when there are plenty of low IQ whites who also breed like rabbits.

    Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?

    “So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable.”

    我等电影出来。

  16. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站

    American Racial Formula…

    Sanctification of Blacks + Black Thuggery + Integration + Gentrification(or White Flight) + Aggressive Policing and Incarceration(demanded by urban haute Liberals) + Encouragement of Black Rage by PC and Soros Foundation + Sensationalization of Rap Culture + Worship of Black Muscle in Sports + Fear of Black Muscle in Streets + Victim Nostalgia that still pretends in Jim Crow Era when we are in Willy Horton era + Massive Immigration that leaves blacks feeling less relevant as Diversity drowns them out in many places + Homomania(that makes blacks bitter and envious that white fruitcakes get more attention than them) + Indulgence of black ‘hate hoaxes’ + silence of truth by PC + media complicity in obfuscating facts, e.g. black thugs called ‘teens’ or ‘youths’ + Jewish dominance over white gentiles who are to be paralyzed by ‘white guilt’ in relation to blacks + Hollywood’s production of black rage movie every year + Definition of ‘hate’ as only a white thing + Regression of black culture into one of savagery + PC tentacles into everything from kids cartoons to TV shows to college seminars + black raciality(racial pesonality) made up ofattitude, sass, aggression, nastiness(after all, smart blacks are no better than dumb ones in lack of reflection and introspection, a trait shared by homos and Jews who are totally into self-aggrandizement) = An Empire of Lies.

    US needs a PRICE OF THE CITY moment.

    It has to come clean.

    One lie leads to another.

    US is in denial and cover-up mode like Watergate where one lie led to another and another and another. In both foreign policy and race matters, esp pertaining to blacks.

    but even the media, or esp the media, are in with the Racegate, and they even lie inside racegated communities.

  17. unit472 说:

    I do not believe there is such a thing as ‘driving while black’ but ‘driving while poor’ is a reality for many. Philonde Castile had more than 60 traffic violations in his brief life. I’m twice his age and haven’t had a traffic violation in 40 years and I used to drive more than 100 miles per day before I retired. The difference is my vehicles were in good condition and the paper work for them in order not that I was white.

    Look at Philonde’s car:

    It is an aging piece of crap with rusted out rocker panels. He drove in a town of fewer than 25,000 people and was what is called a ‘habitual offender’. Conduct a traffic stop and its almost certain he will be violating some ordinance or other. No insurance, suspended license, unpaid tickets etc. The sad thing is had Philonde spent the money he had paid in fines on keeping his vehicle and paper work in order he might be alive today. But poor people and especially poor black people don’t look at that way. Why fix a tail light when you need to buy marijuana. Keeping your vehicle insured might leave you short of walking around money for the weekend. Better to risk getting pulled over than defer some immediate pleasures.

    • 回复: @jtgw
    , @Atlanta Man
  18. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站

    In the end, even after blacks burn down a city, white boys will return to worshiping black athletes and rappers, and white girls will go back to imitating Beyonce and chasing after negro studs.

    Globalism is worship pf raw power, and blacks got the most elementary kind of fist, booty, and ‘muh dick’.

    OJ fiasco and black ugliness did nothing to dampen white addiction to black superbowl that year.

    White people must boycott and be free of the Afropium if they want to rise above the black threat.

  19. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站

    If the killer had been Muslim, Trump would say ‘no Muslim immigration’.

    If the killer had been a Mexican illegal, Trump would say higher walls.

    But the killer is black, so Trump is silent on that score, even though 11 white cops were shot.

    It goes to show blacks are the Invisible Thug. Whatever bad thing they do, we are not supposed to see color.

    PS. Whites are a strange breed. They are the ONLY people whose support can be won by insulting them. PC says blacks and Jews are good as a people; they can only be bad as individuals. In contrast, PC says whites are bad as a group; they can only be good as individuals… or as a group devoted to self-debasement.
    So, when you insult whiteness, ‘good’ white individuals will join your side to demonstrate that they reject their ‘bad’ group identity. They are just individuals devoted to justice and freedom. And if they have a collective identity, it is to support Israel, homomania, or MLK-worship.
    Whites may form white communities but always in admiration of something un-white or anti-white.

    • 回复: @KenH
  20. The collective ‘black people’ is surely a problem when 执法 acts/behaves/conducts themselves in a way that profiles their own ignorance and enhances their power while using the pattern and practice of their own profile. My only reference to the term refers only those who behave in that way and not to the greater band of police officers who do their job and not shoot ‘black citizens”.

    When a citizen is stopped for an infraction, it matter not what he did before. As long as he is observed breaking the law(s) of the state, he can be detained accordingly. Anything other is de-escalation and what we see today is the result. Both sides are not innocent so le’ts be clear.
    Mt Philander(??) appears to have been a street hustler and nothing more. He did belong to the same socioeconomic level as his brethren within the urban sectors of USA but that is not a crime. What he drove (as transportation) is also not an issue but it is interesting that the Ferguson profile on the after incident investigation is that the local council in Ferguson, knowing the poverty level, installed a program that would target a money source that involved transportation, with fees from such as a revenue stream.

    http://washingtoninformer.com/news/2015/mar/10/ferguson-increased-revenue-targeting-blacks/?page=1

  21. There are a lot of criminal cops and corrections officers. They commit crimes from shake downs to murder against people of every color. They taze people in restraints. If you have lived a sheltered life you don’t know this. If you are queer for cops you don’t want to know this. Lets accept the realty of race AND cops.

    • 回复: @joef
    , @AndrewR
    , @utu
    , @Dissident
  22. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站

    ———-But a black citizen thinks: “Here’s Whitey, still trying to keep the black man down!” It makes him mad, on a scale that doesn’t happen with a white citizen.————

    It’s more like, “I can whup a slow and fa**oty honkey’s ass, and all white folks I know be afraid of me. But dis here white dude think he tough and badass cuz he wear a badge and carry a gun.”

    When a black guy deals with a white cop, he experiences racial inversion. White boys usually kiss his ass, but the black guy must kiss the white cop’s ass.
    This is esp tough when blacks have rap lyrics going on in their minds 24/7.
    They think they are in some rap video.
    Cuz blacks are ‘musical’, their sense of reality is less objective and more subjective.

  23. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Simon in London

    Just wait til UK is 13% black and 60% white.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  24. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Rich

    Even if whites agree with the Derb, they might have black friends, and they would rather die than say or do anything that might offend the sacralized negro.

  25. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Svigor

    “I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don’t know what blacks go through.”

    Blacks know what blacks go through. Other people’s properties to get free stuff.
    Blacks also know what goes through blacks. Bullets. Blacks sure use a lot of bullets that go through other blacks.

  26. I 100% blame dallas shooting on the MSM. all the cop/white hating comes from the news headlines blowing up the shootings.

  27. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站

    Another Narrative Collapse.

    US says it has the right to interfere in other nations cuz it is the paragon of human rights whereas other nations are tyrannies. But blacks are blowing this narrative to bits. They say they is slaves in ‘racist’ America. LOL.

    In a way, BLM and WOT(war on terror) & J-WOR(Jewish War on Russia) have something in common. They are all built on lies.

    US lied about WMD and Gaddafi and destroy Iraq and Libya. US lies and aids terrorists in Syria.
    US lies about ‘Russian aggression’ by projecting its own aggression onto others.

    What the US(under Jewish control) does globally, blacks do in the US. They cause problems but blame other.

    But urban Libs deserve blame too. For them to create Gentropolis, they needed the aggressive involvement of cops and the prison system. They needed tougher policing and more prisons. After all, the main threat to Gentropolis is black crime and thuggery.

    But such policies might seem ‘racist’, so they masked their deed with profuse outpouring of pro-black sentiments and vilification of white ‘racists'(esp those in the South). This indulged black rage. They also used homomania to push side black issues.

    Eventually, something was bound to crack in this funny jar of contradictions.
    NY led the way,by the way. After all, how did NY make its comeback?

    US, a nation that condemns ‘hate’ but promotes Rap that wallows in mayhem.
    What a nut nation.

  28. @Priss Factor

    London is – that’s what I’m going by.

  29. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    “The underlying issue here: the very high levels of violence and criminality among blacks.”

    Petty Apartheid was instituted in South Africa to shield whites from this type of black criminality, which cannot be reformed. Basically, living apart from blacks solves all of these problems.
    What I don’t get is why white officers are even bothering to police black areas. Why not just stop off at the local Dunkin Donut store and sit out your shift. Let the brothers take care of this shit. Let Obama and co. have it in full.

    • 回复: @joef
    , @Anon
  30. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    “Nobody much resents blacks, that I’m aware of.”

    In South Africa it is the black gov taking those jobs, college places and farms away from competent whites and giving them to unqualified blacks. So whites there resent blacks. And for good reason. The gov is filled up to the brim with unqualified and self-entitled blacks who get those jobs on account of their skin color, and as a reward for nepotism and black racial solidarity. Which the MSM naturally all ignores.

  31. tbraton 说:

    With re to your comments about Newt Gingrich, Mr. Derbyshire, I have to agree and disagree. I am appalled that he is on Trump’s short list of VP picks, and I sure hope Trump doesn’t make the mistake of picking him. I don’t think the thrice-married Trump really needs the baggage of the thrice-married Gingrich to weigh down his ticket. Then there are the incompatible political positions, such as Gingrich’s enthusiasm for foreign wars. He was promoting war against Iraq soon after 9/11, almost a year and a half before the war began, and he remained hawkish on the Iraq War long after most sensible proponents of that war had revised their thinking. In late 2013, he gave an interview in which he stated that he was “rethinking” the war against Iraq. He also strongly favored the war against Libya and Qaddafi. I think it’s safe to characterize his positions in the foreign policy area as close to a neocon as it’s possible to be. BTW I have the same objection to Chris Christy being named the VP running mate, apart from the fact that NJ is right next door to NY. Of the three being bandied about, Mike Pence seems like the default choice, and even he presents problems. I wish there were a younger politician out there with excellent academic credentials who shares Trump’s views to a substantial degree, such as Kansas SOS Kris Kobach (summa cum laude from Harvard + law review at Yale Law), but apparently that is not in the cards. As far as Gingrich’s role on Fox News, I rather enjoy his appearances since he is intelligent and articulate and often says rather sensible things and gives pretty good political analysis.

  32. fnn 说:
    @Simon in London

    Faulkner famously said, “The past isn’t over. It isn’t even past.” You can’t escape from the history no matter how liberal you get.

    But my pet nonsense theory is that, unlike the English, white Americans are too literal-minded and aren’t good at the kind of fanciful verbal embroidery that many blacks find amusing/endearing. Even Irish-Americans and Jews aren’t good at it.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  33. KenH 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Correct regarding Trump’s silence and cowardice in the aftermath of the racially motivated shootings and murders of white cops and citizens. All he did yesterday was post some bland video about supporting cops, but did not breath a word of criticism of BLM, Obama or other fire breathing black radicals who’ve created this climate of anti-white hatred and rage. Most definitely hypocritical in light of previous statements about Muslims and illegal alien Mexicans.

    No doubt his consultants told him not to be “divisive” and he’s obliging them by turning into a spineless politician worried more about attracting minority votes than speaking the truth.

    • 回复: @gda
    , @AndrewR
    , @Anon
  34. Realist 说:

    伟大的文章。

    Your assessment of Gingrich is spot on. You can always identify a cuckservative because they describe Gingrich as always the smartest guy in the room. A degree in history ranks up there with a degree in gender studies.

  35. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说:
    @Simon in London

    London has huge Paki or ‘Asian’ presence.

    Pakis may produce all sorts of problems, but they don’t act like blacks.

    And let’s not forget the huge riot some yrs back that began in the Negro community.

    Anyway, More Blacks will mean more trouble as UK blacks take their inspiration from American blacks.

  36. @fnn

    Black British don’t do a lot of that jive talk compared to US blacks.

    • 回复: @fnn
  37. fnn 说:
    @Simon in London

    I think it’s in the genes. See,for example, the history of Calypso music.

  38. joef 说:

    The unfortunate reality is that we will not accept reality – – we will just do what we have been doing for the last 50 years: more pandering and more entitlements. The fact that this combination has produced nothing but failure will not deter Leftist from continuing to deny reality.
    I believed that as local government defaults under economic stress would cause an increase in afro american criminal behavior. But now it will probably happen a lot sooner with the lack of qualified candidates wanting to be police officers, and a surge in retirements as well. With what is going on the only draw to becoming a cop is that there is no other jobs to be found.
    As the ranks start to diminish, and the remaining officers adopt an increasingly hands off attitude, out of self preservation, afro american violence will increase to previously unseen record levels.
    We really cannot expect them to do otherwise, because the more we pander the more emboldened they get, and with the demise of any deterrence to their criminality, there will be nothing to stop them. Of course to a Leftist this would be the equivalent to nirvana as they will attempt to expunge their own white guilt by celebrating atrocities committed against everyone else by afro americans.
    In the mean time the Leftist media/academic/political/legal complex will call for more gun control (which will not affect afro american violent offenders because guns will always be available by black market means). and attack any person’s legitimate use of deadly force, to defend their own lives against this onslaught, as a racist activity.
    The only way this will end is badly when we will eventually economically collapse and cannot maintain our entitlement spending. The result of this is that afro americans will finally have their desired race war, and lose. Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).

    • 回复: @pink_point
  39. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Corvinus

    “Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?”

    Neither five. Nor white.

  40. jtgw 说: • 您的网站
    @unit472

    Perhaps all these regulations make it more difficult for poor people to comply with traffic ordinances and that’s why poor people tend to bear the brunt of traffic law enforcement? It’s the same reason that regulation of businesses and entrepreneurs harms poor people disproportionately; it makes it much harder for them to stand up on their own two feet when the government artificially raises the price of entry with all these ordinances.

    • 回复: @whatgives
  41. jtgw 说: • 您的网站

    Are you sure that government bloat is caused by black misbehavior? It seems that black misbehavior and social indicators got worse after Johnson’s Great Society, not before.

    • 回复: @Diversity Heretic
  42. KenH 说:

    Knowing that they hate us, and how impulsively violent too many of them are, we fear them more than ever.

    I wouldn’t characterize it as fear. Whites are just very law abiding and very wary of the legal ramifications of conflict with blacks. When whites violently tangle with blacks and win there is a presumption of white racism instead of innocence.

    Some may remember the story several years ago of a white NYC judge who often ruled against white males even when the evidence favored their cases so he could help the underdog black man. He sentenced a white man who justifiably defended himself against a black aggressor to 20yrs in prison. He was stricken by pangs of conscience in old age and admitted his race bias against his own race. IMO this judge is just the tip of the iceberg within our “justice system”.

    It’s time to file for divorce. Immediate re-segregation and eventual racial partition is the only workable solution, but our block headed pols, including the supposedly PC defying Trump will never, ever go there. So blacks will keep killing whites and occasionally whites will get angry and kill some of them.

    • 回复: @MEH 0910
  43. joef 说:
    @Anonymous

    I agree, cops should stand down and give up on proactive policing in afro american ghettos and limo liberal communities too (the limo libs will cry like little babies if that happens and most suburban cops have no stomach for it). They don’t like policing then let them do without it and declare their communities DMZs.
    So to all urban ghetto cops out there: no proactive policing, minimal enforcement activity, just answer your radio runs and take police reports, don’t make an arrest without a complainant, and respond to emergency calls by complying with all traffic rules (yes sit at a red traffic light while your lights and sirens are on!). Let afro americans reap what they sowed and keep their (criminal) lifestyle for themselves.
    This will not solve the fact that they travel to other non black areas to commit criminal activity as well but you have no control over that. You will just be responding to the desires expressed by the MSM, so comply & give them what they want, and survive.

  44. @Diversity Heretic

    “the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) )in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers.”

    I’ve never heard a more eloquent and succinct solution.

    But, as Derb has stated, NO solution is possible until we admit there is a problem.

    The media is THE problem.

    As long as the likes of Farrakahn, Black Panthers, Sharpton, Obama, can say “Fuck the police”,
    but WE can’t even use the word “black” in a sentence, the “discussion” hasn’t really even started.

    • 回复: @Dissident
  45. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @joef

    When you’ve nothing substantial to contribute, you might try the next button to the right.

    • 回复: @joef
  46. joef 说:
    @anonymous

    I guess the ultimate logical conclusions of where this is all heading to is too much reality for you. Instead we must ignore it because it because its too harsh and politically incorrect. People can ignore reality but eventually it will not ignore you. And life and death violence is the ultimate objective reality. And yes I know a lot about it: I lived in it.

  47. pink_point 说:
    @joef

    You are a good psychologist.

    If 95% of the world wouldn’t be forced to accept, out of awe, dollars that have no value any more according to every financial law, we can’t really figure how things would turn at this point.

    You seem to hope for a race war, thuogh, and I can’t agree on that.

    除了,

    Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).

    You somehow sound like the typical leftist, lover of all humans but hater of every human that doesn’t play by the very same leftist script.

    It’s not about natural selection. It’s that where there is real progress, and move onward, leftists “ideas” and “mindset” find no soil to grow on. On the contrary, they prosper in the times of decay; in a state of advanced decay, like in this day and age, “leftist” will be a byname for “masochistic”. (We can say this is due to natural selection of ideas.)

    • 回复: @joef
    , @AndrewR
  48. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说:

    Glob is a Globalist Snob.

    The new elites have concocted a clever way to protect their preening privilege with PC preaching that combines high-toned haughtiness with self-righteous chest-beating.
    ‘Progressive’ dogma, or Progma, is a hybrid beast that must be killed.

    Unable to address reality with real thought and examination, they resort to slogans and catchphrases that are easily copied and muttered by anyone in the game.

    For the affluent, PC protects their privilege. It is like the passover sign that says ‘good whites here, go get the bad ones’.

    For those without affluence and privilege, PC gives them a false sense of ’empowerment’, as if they’re committed to some great struggle for ‘justice’. Like with coppercab and chubby mark.
    They’ve no idea that they’re mere tools.

    • 回复: @Chrisnonymous
  49. joef 说:
    @pink_point

    Is there a choice? Knowing where our present course of events will eventually lead us is not the same as wanting it. If afro americans gave up their violence and blame whitey first attitudes no one will be happier than me. But unfortunately I do not have any indication that this will happen. This is especially so because their are so many white apologist and panderers who run cover for every afro american dysfunction.
    As I said race war is not good, and their will be much suffering. Those who will suffer most are legit blacks who don’t subscribe to the nonsense because they will be getting it from both sides — there own will be attacking them as traitors – – and other races may shoot first and ask questions later under those types of circumstances. They will have the most to lose.
    But if it is pushed upon us, than the only thing left is to respond to it, and attempt to rebuild from there. This process is being chosen by afro americans, and the leftist who irresponsibly push for balkanization. Add this irresponsible balkanization with bad economics is a formula for national disaster.
    In other words I am not choosing for race war (what lunatic would), I am simply responding to what is thrust upon us. Throughout history civilizations on every continent have collapsed, and the unfortunate ones who are left attempt to rebuild it to varying success. This historical process sometimes takes generations, or lifetimes, or centuries.
    No wish for race war, but I also know it cannot go on like this indefinitely either.
    Oh by the way, I consider myself a paleo conservative.

  50. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说:

    We live in a culture that is addicted to cult of ‘badass cool’.

    So, as long as black dysfunction is made ‘cool’ via rap music, black thug athletes, and gangster machismo, many young people don’t care. They worship and emulate blacks.

    Americans prefer badass cool(even if destructive and dysfunctional) to sane and proper(if seen as square and ‘white bread’). Americans love sports and pop music, and both are related to black dysfunctions of rage, violence, and aggression that are now deemed ‘cool’.

    But, there are some 14/88 types who are similarly addicted to neo-nazism because they think the Nazis were so cool and badass in blowing things up.
    They love the Nazis like some people love the helicopter scene in APOCALYPSE NOW.

    这是人的本性。

  51. @jtgw

    The beginning of the Great Society corresponded with the end of Jim Crow laws and practices, which had served to keep black violence in check by the fear of instant extra-judicial retribution and in keeping racial tensions lower by separating blacks and whites to a large extent. Hard to figure out where one began and the other ended.

    • 回复: @JackOH
    , @jtgw
    , @Corvinus
  52. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    EEOC has sued private companies that use criminal history as a factor in hiring. And Obama has expanded the prohibition of using criminal history as a factor in hiring for federal jobs.

    The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is publishing a proposed rule that would prohibit federal agencies from asking questions about criminal and credit history to applicants for tens of thousands of jobs in the competitive service, as well as the career senior executive service, until a conditional offer of employment has been made. People with criminal records are already eligible to compete for the vast majority of federal jobs; the proposed rule builds on current practice at many agencies by ensuring that hiring managers are making selection decisions based solely on applicants’ qualifications.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/fact-sheet-during-national-reentry-week-reducing-barriers-reentry-and-employment-formerly

  53. MEH 0910 说:
    @KenH

    White judge says he sent a white man to prison because of racial bias
    By Haimy Assefa, CNN, Fri December 13, 2013

    [更多]

    A former Brooklyn judge testified on Wednesday to ask that a man he convicted of murder 15 years ago be freed, saying he was racially biased during the 1998 trial.

    Frank Barbaro, who is white, said he now believes his decision to convict Donald Kagan, also white, for the murder of an African-American man named Wavell Wint was a result of his “subliminal fight against racism,” he told CNN.

    Barbaro was convinced that Kagan was racist and wanted to kill a black person, Barbaro said.

    Wint was shot and killed outside a movie theater in the East New York neighborhood of Brooklyn when the two men got into a fight involving Kagan’s gold chain necklace, Barbaro said.

    Barbaro said he gave little consideration to the self-defense argument presented by Jeff Adler, Kagan’s attorney, because he was blinded by his experience as a civil rights activist earlier in life.

    The former judge was 18 years old when he became deeply involved in issues of racial inequality. His experience caused him to be “repulsed by racial discrimination against black people,” Barbaro said.

    The former judge said he saw Kagan as a white man who “assassinated” an African-American.

    In a nonjury trial, Barbaro convicted Kagan of second degree murder and criminal possession of a weapon, sentencing the man to 15 years to life.

    In the years since the trail, Barbaro said he continued to revisit the case in his mind. He said he noticed a growing number of stories in the media about wrongful murder convictions, which caused him to further doubt his decision.

    In 2011, Barbaro said he contacted Kagan’s attorney to express his doubt.

    When Barbaro read the court transcripts, he said, it became apparent to him that he ignored undisputed facts that support Adler’s self-defense argument. Kagan tried to walk away from Wint twice during the verbal and physical altercation, Barbaro said.

    • 回复: @KenH
  54. whatgives 说:
    @jtgw

    There is that. But, re Ferguson, the community is overwhelmingly black and the local government overwhelmingly white. Why? Do they not bother to vote without being offered a ride and a pack of cigarettes?

  55. KenH 说:
    @MEH 0910

    Thanks for the detective work. I was too lazy to look for the story but did recall it was in the NYC area.

  56. JackOH 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Agree. I’ve commented elsewhere on “UR” that Great Society laws plus 1960s rioting gave Blacks enormous undue leverage over Whites that they’d never had before. Permanent sense of entitled grievance, accommodation, appeasement. (Yeah, I think the informal de facto Jim Crow “worked” in my Northern city. There’s at least one Black writer who agrees. Relations between Blacks and Whites were cordial, and there was a civil “space” between the two.)

    Someone with the right street smarts and intellect needs to publicly ask when do Black grievances end? Maybe a 600-750 word piece for “WaPo” or “NYT”? Maybe salt the piece with a proposal that Blacks be offered a onetime payment of \$10 thousand per person (about a half-trillion total) in exchange for voiding Great Society laws and their anti-White offspring.

    FWIW-I’m a deep pessimist regarding race relations, mostly because Whites seem to have internalized that the opposite of appeasement is racism.

    • 回复: @jtgw
  57. DaveA 说:

    I wonder how much longer big-city politicians can rely on the police to protect them from hordes of Africans while scapegoating the police whenever anything goes wrong. At some point cops will start routinely killing blacks, politicians will order those cops arrested, their orders will be ignored, and blacks will discover that protesting in groups makes them easy targets for KKK snipers who the cops can’t ever seem to catch.

    I think the Derb’s articles have gotten better since National Review fired him. Years ago NR was high on my bookmark list. Now I haven’t read NR in months, but I read Derb all the time.

  58. jtgw 说: • 您的网站
    @Diversity Heretic

    I agree that the causal relations between legal desegregation, expansion of welfare and rise in black dysfunction is difficult to disentangle. However, we fortunately have a control case: the unsegregated North. Prior to the 1960s, the North mostly adhered to the libertarian ideal of freedom of association. Few laws forbade blacks from associating with whites, but then few laws compelled such association, either. The result was a high degree of de facto segregation, as the different races naturally preferred to associate with their own kind, but also a relative absence of interracial friction. Under those conditions, blacks were still able to advance themselves e.g. by taking up factory jobs that paid better than sharecropping. Indicators like household wealth and literacy were all going up, until the Great Society undercut these advances by punishing honest work and rewarding idleness and criminality. Note that white working class families were also strongly affected by these changes, as Charles Murray has documented.

  59. jtgw 说: • 您的网站
    @JackOH

    There is a big difference between de jure and de facto segregation, which seems to be lost on both the SJW left and parts of the alt-right.

    • 回复: @JackOH
  60. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Maybe you Americans need a two-state solution?

    • 回复: @jtgw
    , @Avery
  61. dc.sunsets 说:

    When the political system is run by Goodwhites intent on placing the costs of their virtue-signaling on others, those who can do so redeploy their assets & time toward providing the protection and order the political system fails to provide.

    From waves of gun purchases & concealed carry to early adopters abandoning the university-PC black hole, those capable of high productivity & success are compelled to privately reproduce what their state fails.

    These folks are also the geese who lay the golden eggs everyone today feels entitled to have. It has only worked this long because the producers have ridden the cresting wave of illusory prosperity yielded by the largest credit bubble in history.

    When the bubble finally pops, those funding the virtue signals will cease consenting.

    That’s the change baked into the cake.

  62. Corvinus 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Jim Crow laws was the tool by greedy Southrons to maintain white political and social control in the aftermath of Reconstruction. Had they kept their end of the “promise”–separate but equal accommodations–perhaps blacks living there would have obliged. The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.

    • 回复: @Epochehusserl
    , @Crawfurdmuir
  63. jtgw 说: • 您的网站
    @Anonymous

    Yitzhak, we thought you were dead!

  64. Until today, in twenty years of either covering cops professionally or following the news, I had never seen anything by a journalist that catches what the actual cop actually on an actual street actually faces and thinks. Derbyshire has it exactly right. I am sore impressed.

    The streets are not what columnists think–except with the aforementioned exception–or what liberals think or conservatives think, or anyone thinks who hasn’t been there. They are wild, crazy, dangerous, often vicious, and don’t fit any pattern. Tryng to impose niceness on them is a fool’s errand. The media are full of errand boys.

    Anyone wanting confirmation, such as perhaps Derbyshire, would do well to read The Job, by Steve Osborne, a New York cop–it’s on Amazon-or better yet the audio version at Audible.com, read by Osborne.

    • 回复: @Truth
    , @joef
  65. Avery 说:
    @Anonymous

    We Americans already have a 50-state solution.
    A couple centuries before Israel came into existence.

    And don’t lecture the taxpayers whose largess and generosity makes your little country’s continued existence possible.

    • 回复: @International Jew
  66. CCZ 说:

    At what point does the People’s Republic of China intervene to protect their investment assets and dollars holdings? And how?

  67. JackOH 说:
    @jtgw

    Agree. I ought to have said de facto segregation for my Northern city, not de facto Jim Crow, which is misleading. The de facto segregation in my town was permeable, elastic, spotty, informal, and “privately managed”. E. g., one downtown theater was known for whisking Black youngsters into the balcony; other theaters did not. A multi-chair Black-owned barbershop downtown enjoyed a big, diverse White clientele, partly because the more convenient neighborhood barbershops were one-chair affairs with an overwhelmingly mono-ethnic clientele.

    My memory may be shaky, my judgment likewise, but de facto segregation was a way for people of vastly different backgrounds and experiences to get along with one another. Good fences, good neighbors.

  68. @Avery

    Even dead, he has a better sense of humor than you do.

    • 回复: @Avery
  69. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说:

    黑色生活很重要吗?

    No, Loud Intimidation Works.

    Jews got Chutzpah.

    Homos got Poopchutzpah.

    Negroes got Hoodshootspah.

  70. @Corvinus

    A cowards way out would be continuing the way we are and refusing to confront reality.

  71. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说:

    In the 70s and 80s when I grew up in the aftermath of 60s mess, everyone knew about black crime.
    Even Libs knew about it. It was the era of ‘mugged by reality’. Few people had any illusion about blacks.

    But since the 90s, there was great reduction in crime, esp in some key cities where pampered kids grew up in whitopias. There are some cities that I recall was quite black when I was young. Today, I see that huge areas are mostly white or non-black.

    So, a whole generation of white millennials grew up without danger of black crime. And they have no idea about the Willie Horton Era since it’s been swept under the rug. They think all the fear of blacks in the past was some delusional mania, esp since academia and media are dominated by Libs. Also, black thuggery has been made ‘cool’ and fashionable via rap. It’s a fashion statement than actual black thugs robbing you and raping your mother.

    All this sense of security, privilege, and PC ‘white guilt’ made so many white millennials take their safety for granted. They began to question stuff like ‘stop and frisk’ and side with BLM.
    Lena Dunham grew up in whitened part of NY with almost no blacks. For her, black rage is just some abstract cause, not a fist in her face. Also, millennials, like X-ers, grew up with education and TV documentaries that sacralized the Civil Rights Movement but turned a total blind eye to the Black Rampage that followed and destroyed so many lives. But Cons have been silent too.

    Well, looks like another round of mayhem is about to hit the cities unless Section 8 works quickly enough to send the Negroes to the outlying areas.

    Remember that the 60s generation that so romanticized black violence also came of age in crime-free 50s and early 60s. So, they could romanticize black rage as noble.
    Had the boomer generation grown up with lots of black crime, they would not have been so naive.
    We see the same shit happening all over.

    Liberals who cleaned up the cities knew all too well about black crime and thuggery, but they remained mum about it even as they went about locking up the Negroes in the Clinton era.
    After all, the Narrative says Jews and white Libs and blacks are allies and pals.
    So, even as cities got tough on blacks, this neo-draconianism was masked by PC lingo about MLK holiness under which millennials were raised. Libs acted ‘racist’ to clean up the cities but had to remain mum about it. After all, it was the ‘racist’ Republicans who did the Willie Horton ad. Liberals, in contrast, implemented policies in fear of Willie Horton but hid the nature of their deed by praising Oprah. Blacks were so enthralled with Clinton smiling at them and being the ‘first black president’ that they failed to see that slick willy was pulling one on them.

    And of course, there was homomania to focus most Prog attention on happy queers than angry blacks. After all, even queenie meanies aren’t threatening like black thugs.
    (Homomania is less appealing now that ‘gay marriage’ happened’. So, there is hunger for the ‘great new cause’ or ‘great new hope’.)

    Origins of BLM shows a crack in the homo movement. Though Jews are only 2% of the homo community, they’ve dominated most of the organizations. Also, Jew Homos got most of the funding from rich Jews to make Homo = Jewish Agenda = Globalism.

    But blacks who began BLM don’t want homo agenda to compete and eclipse the Negro Demand. They want the homo agenda to serve the black rage agenda.
    Some white Libs see this as good sign in the sense of “if blacks come to accept homos more, maybe they will be less macho and threatening and more like Michael Jackson.”
    But it’s not working out that way. Homo Black Lesbians prefer bloody black rage to happy homo rainbow.
    White Lib hope of black mellowing via association with homo agenda is slipping. Pro-homo or anti-homo, blacks want to command the Narrative. They want the megaphone.

    It just so happens that black demands and white/Jewish urban plan are at loggerheads despite the charade that both sides are allies against the KKK and Trump.
    All this stuff about Dallas as ‘city of hate’ into ‘city of hope’ misses the central point. ‘Progressive’ agenda is anti-Brogressive 0r black brotha ‘progressive’.
    Brogressives want more free stuff for Negroes and want to command the Narrative. In contrast, the globo Progs may mutter nice pro-black things but their actual policies have led to gentrification(pushing blacks out), increased policing(locking up black thugs and racial profiling, esp in NY), more diversity(more immigration and more competition for blacks), and homomania(that drowned out black voices for most of Obama’s presidency).

    Globo-progressivism is ‘hate’ slipped into ‘hope’. Of course, affluent white ‘progressives’ will sacrifice the less fortunate of their own kind to maximize their own privilege. They will send blacks to OTHER white communities and don’t care if whites suffer as a result AS LONG AS their parts of the city are more gentrified and made safer.

    So, this is a crazy hybrid animal.

    • 回复: @Dr. X
    , @Clyde
  72. Avery 说:
    @International Jew

    What’s the matter [International Jew]: the fact that I brought up Israel is living off of American taxpayer generosity hurt your feelings?

    • 回复: @International Jew
  73. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说:

    PC might as well be called Political Cartooniness.

  74. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说:

    Blam a terrorist group?

  75. I think it’s time for a sequel to 我们完了.

  76. Truth 说:
    @Fred Reed

    So Fred ,does this men you’re not going to kick Derb’s ass anymore?

    • 回复: @Jonathan Revusky
  77. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站

    The message of Pinker’s BETTER DEVILS OF OUR NATURE sounds more and more like “the world is getting better because things are getting better for Jews.”

    Things are getting better for Jews but not much for others. (But if Jews kill the host, won’t they die too eventually?)

    But look all around.

    Huge disaster all over Middle East and North Africa. It’s like world-war-level of violence.
    Iraq, Libya, and Syria have utterly been destroyed.

    Huge mess in Ukraine due to GLOB meddling.

    Huge mess in Europe due to Muslim-African invasion.

    Birth dearth in West and East Asia, with the people with highest IQ having fewest kids.

    Zio-Glob pushing for major wars with Russia and China.

    Socio-economic hell in Venezuela and Brazil.

    White Death phenom in the US. Drugs, suicide, loneliness.

    Vileness of globalist culture centered on mainstreaming of porn and black thuggery.

    Rise of tattooines. Ugly and uglier by the day. Demented.

    Homomania as the new spirituality of the West. This is spiritual and moral death of civilization that celebrates homo fecal-penetration and men cutting off dicks to get fake vaginas.

    BLM and return of black rage and white naivete that excuses black violence.
    Will cities see a return to black mayhem as cops are pressured to go easy on black thugs?

    Pinker seems to think we all learned the right lesson from the barbarism of the 70s, but apparently not so. Young people didn’t learn anything because they weren’t honestly informed of what brought back the cities from decline. Honest assessment would identify blacks and leftist radicalism as the main threat to civil order and civilization.
    It was the combo of black thuggery and leftist(often Jewish) radicalism in the late 60s and early 70s that set off criminal, cultural, and legal trends that wrecked entire cities. This was esp true of working class cities like Detroit.
    NY was hit bad but because its main bread and butter were finance and publishing(with little dependence on black labor and talent), it hobbled by and survived.

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=6016

    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/23/books/we-were-disinformed.html

    By the late 70s, left radicalism had burnt itself out and whites lost innocence about blacks.
    From Reagan to Clinton, there was the gradual rise of order. More blacks got locked up. Even NYers chose Giuliani over Dinkins.

    But the media and academia never honestly stated the reason for the return of order and civility.
    Instead, even as the state got tougher on black crime, it also promoted the MLK and Mal X myth for the millennials who also grew up with rap music that lionized black thug sujbectivity or Thugjectivity.
    Rap made Thugjectivity the emotional center of even white college kids. And with porn available even to young kids today(parents no longer supervise their kids), white males grow up with cuck-mindset and white girls grow up with mudshark mindset, esp under the president who is the product of a black guy humping a white race traitor bitch who has been promoted as madonna to obama as messiah.

    So, BLM has a chance to unleash new demonic forces on cities and bring back 70s level of barbaric violence.

    Then, Pinker’s book will have been panglossian.

    Necessary policies were implemented since the 80s to restore order, but the Narrative has never been honest about who, what, and why. Hillary for one cannot explain her ‘super-predator’ comment and instead throws support at BLM to win votes.
    A dishonest narrative cannot defend and sustain necessary actions taken in the past to restore order.

    For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls. Murray and Herrenstein’s book was more prophetic.

  78. @unit472

    Philande’s car was insured and his gun was licsence and he had a valid conceled weapons permit. He was employed and never convicted of a felony, paid taxes, and just living his life. He was not wealthy and living within his means. What does a black man have to do to have the benifit of the doubt when he is living his life? Yes , his car was a piece of shit-should he go into debt for something he cannot afford so he can get to and from work without getting pulled over? His paperwork was in order, his life was in order, and he still was shot by a jumpy cop -and you people on this blog go through contortions to find fault with him.

    • 同意: Jacques Sheete
  79. 5371 说:
    @Atlanta Man

    Even if all that were true, it appears that a Cop-Of-Colour wasn’t up to his job and pulled the trigger before it was necessary. Why should white people again be blamed?

    • 回复: @Atlanta Man
  80. These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane. An individual, a human being, is not a statistical formulation.

    • 同意: Whoever
    • 回复: @WorkingClass
    , @gda
  81. Rehmat 说:

    I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    As for Dallas shooting is concerned, it’s as much an ‘inside job’ as were 9/11 and 7/7.

    On Friday, a Black dude shot and killed five policemen and wounded another seven cops at the anti-Police rally in Dallas. The shooter, Micah Johnson, a Christian, was named as Micah X by Jewish-controlled media to ridicule famous Afro-American Muslim Malcolm X. He was killed on the spot by a burst of police bullets.

    Johnson was a reservist with US Army’s Engineering Brigade. He served in Afghanistan and was awarded an Army Achievement Medal and a NATO Medal.

    Police found Bomb-making material, rifles and a combat journal at the home of Johnson.

    达拉斯市长迈克·罗林斯声称迈卡·约翰逊(非穆斯林)不属于恐怖组织。 去年,罗林斯在价值 350 美元的晚餐中获得了达拉斯大屠杀博物馆的表彰。

    达拉斯警察局局长戴维·奥​​尼尔·布朗说,米卡·约翰逊(Micah Johnson)对明尼苏达州的两名黑社会活动家卡斯提尔(Castile)和路易斯安那州的奥尔顿·斯特林(Alton Sterling)的致命警察枪击案感到不安。 布朗接到了来自华沙的巴拉克·奥巴马的电话,在那里他参加了北约对俄罗斯的首脑会议。 像纽约警察局的官员一样,布朗在以色列接受了反抗议培训。

    美国国土安全部部长约翰逊(Jeh Johnson)表示,枪手似乎是单独行动的,尽管得克萨斯州州长格雷格·阿伯特(Greg Abbott)表示,警方将继续沿兔子路行驶-确保我们消除任何其他可能的犯罪嫌疑人或同谋。

    德克萨斯州州长格雷格·阿博特于2016年2016月乘坐维加斯赌场亿万富翁谢尔登·阿德尔森的私人飞机飞往以色列。XNUMX年XNUMX月,雅培拒绝了奥巴马取消德克萨斯州对伊朗制裁的请求。 相反,他敦促其他州长维持或对伊朗实施新制裁,这对以色列构成“现有威胁”。 雅培还宣布BDS是一个必须反对的仇恨组织。

    约翰逊的犹太篮球友以色列·库珀(Jersey Cooper)表示,直到周五枪击事件之前都没有犯罪记录的约翰逊说:“只有安静的人才能做出最具有破坏性的事情。” 没有人会相信这个白痴,本杰明·内塔尼亚胡是一个“安静的人”!

    Last year, at an event in Dallas sponsored by New York-based anti-Muslim Jewish group, American Defense Freedom Initiative, headed by Jewish Pam Gueller, was attacked by two shooters who didn’t like America’s “Freedom of Speech”. Interestingly, the two shooters were killed by police before they had killed anyone attending the event.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/07/10/dallas-shooting-another-false-flag-terror/

    • 回复: @Salger
    , @gda
  82. Here, for example, is Mark Dayton, the Governor of Minnesota, a former Senator from that state, a Democrat, and the living, breathing embodiment of the Midwestern Nice style—a style which, as I have opined before, may one day be the death of us all.

    First of all, Dayton is a clown and there’s nothing “nice”about him. An utterly worthless PoS.

    Second, the cornball concept, “Minnesota Nice” is as bogus as a ski hill in Key West and always has been no matter how many times you’ve “opined” it. Scribblers who spread such mawkish road apples ought to have their pens confiscated and be forced to make a public apology. They should also have enough self respect to refrain from uttering such utterly sappy crap and need to be informed that expressing such concepts reveals such a laughably superficial analysis of reality that any rational reader would discard the rest of the article out of hand.

    Just another junk article. Excuse me while I go take a shower. Minnesota nice, ya know!

  83. Bill 说:
    @Corvinus

    Cowardice: Failure to provide Corvinus with gibsmedats

  84. Dr. X 说:
    @Simon in London

    Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn’t the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA

    Really? What about the 2011 riots? And Brixton?

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  85. @Atlanta Man

    Black men are 27 times more likely to attack whites than vice versa per the color of crime published by amren. You may disagree with the methodology but the numbers are not close by a long shot. What black men have to do to get the benefit of the doubt is lower that ratio.

  86. JackOH 说:
    @Atlanta Man

    Agree. I think the National Rifle Association has issued a statement questioning the police officer’s shooting of Castile. This case needs a thorough investigation. I wasn’t there, of course, but what little I’m guessing at is that Castile appeared to be a guy trying to comply with a police order while knowing that his possession of a firearm could be misconstrued as unlawful.

    On a case-by-case basis, some Black folks seem to have genuine grievances that they’ve been treated badly because of racial animus. Those genuine grievances have to be sorted from the political chum we’re all tired of.

    FWIW-last Friday in my area, an inmate with a documented history of mental illness attempted to strangle a sheriff’s deputy in the jailhouse disciplinary pod. There was a struggle. Two other inmates entered the fray to save the deputy. One of them held the assailant; the other secured the deputy’s taser and flashlight until other deputies arrived. The video of the incident was posted. The victim was White. His attacker–and his rescuers–were Black. I’m not sure if the incident makes a statement, but I think it’s worth noting here.

  87. Dr. X 说:
    @Priss Factor

    since the 90s, there was great reduction in crime, esp in some key cities where pampered kids grew up in whitopias. There are some cities that I recall was quite black when I was young. Today, I see that huge areas are mostly white or non-black.

    So, a whole generation of white millennials grew up without danger of black crime. And they have no idea about the Willie Horton Era since it’s been swept under the rug. They think all the fear of blacks in the past was some delusional mania, esp since academia and media are dominated by Libs. Also, black thuggery has been made ‘cool’ and fashionable via rap. It’s a fashion statement than actual black thugs robbing you and raping your mother.

    All this sense of security, privilege, and PC ‘white guilt’ made so many white millennials take their safety for granted.

    I think you’re on to something here. Millenials have no personal recollection of seeing Reginald Denny nearly beaten to death in the LA Riots. And they’ve spent a lifetime watching leftist Hollywood propaganda in which black protagonists like Will Smith save the world.

    I would add that affirmative action allows cosseted white elites to cherry-pick a token number of trophy blacks they associate with in order virtue-signal other whites. But the cherry-picked tokens are not representative of the black population at large, so ironically the white hipsters pride themselves on “diversity” without ever being exposed to the true reality of it.

  88. Black crime…blah blah blah.

    Hillary and it’s ilk are still more of a threat to all of us.

  89. Tiny Duck 说:

    [Stop playing sock-puppetry games by repeatedly changing your handle. Pick one handle and stick to it (or use Anonymous/Anon), or prepare to see all your future comments summarily trashed.]

  90. joef 说:
    @Fred Reed

    Agreed because I have been there & seen the anarchy of the streets produced by afro americans.
    We must examine exactly where all this is going, recognizing that afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens than any other categorized group, including terrorist (& the only thing worse is war):
    Lets first acknowledge that we are doing everything possible to appease them:
    >> Free housing;
    >> Free food;
    >> Free education;
    >> Affirmative action in the workplace and Universities;
    >> Grade inflation for their self esteem (which now other millennials are benefiting from as well);
    >> Unqualified quota promotions;
    >> Ubiquitous MSM praise;
    >> Revisionist history to make them feel good;
    >> EBT cards
    >> No money down, no income verification auto loans, which according to St Louis FRED is now up to \$1 trillion dollars (this is another feature that now has migrated among the general population).
    >> The whole housing bubble crisis of 2008 has its genesis with Clinton’s anti red lining laws where the Justice Dept threatened to sue banks if they did not provide subprime home mortgages to unqualified afro americans (another thing started for afro american appeasement, migrated to the rest of society, and ended in complete disaster!!);
    >> Lighter sentencing for afro american violent felons (what the liberals do not understand is that there proportionally more afro americans in prison is because they commit the most violent felonies, and thats with the catch and release program of the modern justice system).
    >> Providing unqualified professional degrees (I had friend who is a doc who seen this first hand with a afro american MD trying to get a pulse in the ER from a patient who was already pronounced dead for a half hour!);
    >> An election of the first black president.

    If they were appreciative of what they are getting, I could live with the sacrifice. But instead their resentment just keeps on growing and their demands are never ending. They are not even apologetic about all the ruined lives they have caused through violent crime. Yet with all this, its still not enough as their entitlements is a major cause of our nation’s debt levels and associated economic decline. There are just demands for more, more , more, without an end to it.

    So what is their, and their liberal handlers goal then? Well it appears to be that they do not want to be held accountable, most of us always knew that. But it goes further, for it appears that they want to be able to behave any way they please, which includes violent criminal activity, and not be confronted by the police. Even further they want to be able to be a threat and not suffer the repercussions of that act of being a threat (and as the Trayvon incident represents, it does not matter if the incident involves the police). Thus you must forfeit your rights to protect your own life, and the life of others, through self defense, in order to meet the current demands of BLM movement.
    That is simply not an acceptable option. If libs like to play victim let them do it, but don’t dictate to the rest of us (but thats what liberals do).

    • 回复: @joef
  91. woodNfish 说:

    I’m not going to buy into your narrative of why each of those shooting victims needed to be shot dead by the cops, Derbyshire. The cops murdered those men, and I don’t care what their previous records were. Cops are supposed to be highly trained, most of them are also wearing body armor. They murdered each one of those men when no gun was apparent. The fact that Sterling’s hands were free is a big “So what!” If he didn’t have a gun he didn’t deserve to be executed by the cops.

    The fact is that if cops were disarmed people would have less fear of them and know they are not a lethal threat to their safety. Cops rarely need guns, yet they are always armed. They are armed when directing traffic, writing up auto accidents and traffic tickets, and so on. Cops are a violent tool of government thuggery and a threat to peaceful society.

    I will agree with you that blacks are their own worse enemy, but that is not an excuse for cops murdering unarmed citizens.

    The fact is that many cops are nothing more than thugs. I went to school with a cop who liked to tell stories about how he was now able to get revenge on people for all the slights he had to endure in high school. He is your typical cop. Also, cops routinely cover up the crimes of their fellow cops and cops are rarely prosecuted for their own very real crimes against citizens including extortion, rape, robbery, simple and violent assault, and murder. If you drove the car in a robbery where someone was killed, you’d be charged with murder as an accessory. The fact that cops, their unions, the prosecutors and the judges all conspire to cover up and ignore the crimes committed by all of them makes them all accessories to those crimes, and they are all guilty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/prosecutorial-misconduct-new-orleans-louisiana_n_3529891.html
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/01/video-exonerates-man-set-up-by-louisiana-cops-and-prosecutors-video/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3367933/Shocking-video-shows-cops-planting-gun-shooting-handcuffed-man-23-dead-execution.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0
    http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120303/NEWS03/120309974&template=mobileart

    • 回复: @joef
  92. joef 说:
    @joef

    Correction: afro american MD was trying to get a IV into a patient who was pronounced dead for over a half hour.

  93. Salger 说:
    @Rehmat

    >I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.

    • 回复: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Rehmat
    , @Kyle a
  94. @Salger

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.

    So what? I hope that’s not an attempt to justify similar behavior by others.

    Anyway, I feel much more threatened by the scum at the top than the silt on the bottom.

    • 回复: @Salger
  95. 大声笑。

    John Cuckbyshire, working for his (((master))), R✡n Unz, pens an article about Black Lies Matter, and somehow can’t force himself to utter the words “George S✡r✡s”.

    LOL’ed again.

    Mrs Derbyshire must love her some Unz shekelzezzez.

    PS: Gee, I wonder what kind of name “Wayne Isaacs” might be? Hmm. “Isaac”. Gosh. Where have I seen a name like that? Man, it just won’t come to me…

    ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡ http://bartleby.com/108/01/18.html#S23 ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡

  96. Salger 说:
    @Jacques Sheete

    The point is that Europeans didn’t invent slavery of Blacks. And it’s silly to single them out when Arabs did it for centuries without demands for reparations and Arab Guilt.

    • 回复: @Rehmat
  97. @Berta Arnason

    Agreed. You helped me finally put my finger on what bothers me about these dogmatic pseudo geneticists. They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race. He’s black therefore he is stupid and violent.

    • 回复: @Jacques Sheete
  98. gda 说:
    @KenH

    You don’t stop a runaway train by leaping on the tracks in front of it with your hand up. You can’t reverse 50 years of racial lies by shouting the truth in a room full of true believers.

    Thats a recipe for failure.

    Softly, softly, catchee monkey.

  99. Truth 说:
    @Captain Obvious

    LMFAO!

    Hey, at least you can’t say that Unz and Derb are anti 1st Amendment.

  100. joef 说:
    @woodNfish

    Another afro american apologist who probably has had no real world experience with ghetto violence.
    Yes you met one officer who was an aggressive egocentric in your life ergo they all execute unarmed afro americans for no reason. These officers just woke up one morning and just decided to end their careers by getting themselves into controversial shootings, against their own rational self interest (because they knew they would be judged by people with the same ignorant pandering attitudes).

    Of course any one who lived with afro americans on their doorstep and knows the dynamics of violence on a personal level, knows otherwise:
    Did you ever know anyone personally killed by a bare handed assailant?
    Did you ever see a stabbing or shooting victim before?
    How many people you known were killed by violent crime?
    How many people you know that you visited in the hospital, who were shot, stabbed, or attacked by a group of afro americans with baseball bats?
    – – I can answer yes to all of these (& so can others like me).

    Thank God for you that you never had to make a split second decision to shoot someone who is trying to kill you with their bare hands – – or in a Police Officers case an aggressive non compliant criminal suspect who he believes is armed. Soft liberals like judging and pontificating from afar about others, from a safe distance from the violence that the others have to endure (I thought liberals were against being judgmental? OOPS I’m sorry only if they are politically correct protected pet groups, otherwise being judgmental is all okay!!)

    Plus the other fact you rather ignore than admit: afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens then any other group in America, including terrorism (including cops), and only surpassed by war.

    • 同意: AndrewR
    • 回复: @WorkingClass
    , @woodNfish
  101. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    One wonders what reason might the FBI have to list crimes percentage distrubutions by race parting them into
    White, Black, Native, Asian.

    Why conflate Hispanics with white?

    I have a guess about that… you make white %’s look higher than they are, and avoid annoying La Raza types.

    Or what else?

  102. @Dr. X

    Really does not compare to US situation. Eg the 2011 riots did not target whites; white lower class & eastern Europeans joined in the looting.

    • 回复: @5371
  103. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    ” Listen to the cop’s voice on the post-shooting video. He’s scared.” More specifically, he is *panicking* because he realizes he has killed someone with no good reason to do so.

  104. joef 说:

    I keep on forgetting that soft liberal opinion is suppose to supersede hard reality, and if I do not agree I must be guilty of a thought crime against political correct socialist attitudes. After all libs have so many false successes in the economy, race relations, education and criminal justice, why would any sane man disagree? Because the only sane thing is to disagree!

  105. woodNfish 说:
    @joef

    If you have read any of my posts on this you would know I’m no apologist for blacks. My concerns with police murdering unarmed citizens has nothing to do with race and everything to do with government thuggery and the police state. But you can’t see past your racist blinders. Maybe this will put it in terms you can understand:

    https://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/

    • 回复: @joef
  106. 5371 说:
    @Simon in London

    [white lower class & eastern Europeans joined in the looting]

    But was that true in reality to the same extent it was true in Media World? In any case, negroes have not been in Britain as long as in the US, give them time.

  107. AndrewR 说:
    @Svigor

    Hello my friend. You need to listen to Granny Hillary and really listen when blacks tell you about their lives. As she so bravely points out, we whites don’t know what it’s like to be black.

  108. @Svigor

    “being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is”

    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.

    • 回复: @Truth
  109. AndrewR 说:
    @Atlanta Man

    He was a crip. I couldn’t care less that he’s dead.

    • 回复: @Atlanta Man
  110. AndrewR 说:
    @KenH

    Trump is getting more cucked by the day. It’s pathetic.

  111. AndrewR 说:
    @WorkingClass

    Couldn’t agree more. People are so quick to take a side.

  112. AndrewR 说:
    @pink_point

    Who is hoping for a race war? I don’t want it but it’s obviously inevitable. Combine the current levels of anti-white sentiment, endemic violence and government dependency with economic collapse and what do you think will happen? Will blacks just sit down and starve? Magically learn to farm and hunt overnight? Protest until ???? Or will they spread into white areas and kill and loot as much as they can?

  113. Truth 说:
    @David In TN

    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.

    So it is your strong sense of irony, nuance, and context that allows you Gents to be suckered repeatedly into hand-wringing over the CIA engineered False Flag event of the week? Now I understand.

    • 回复: @David In TN
  114. Biff 说:

    People kill each other daily, and now suddenly everyone is butt hurt over five guys who volunteered to put on a uniform, and join the violence.

    变得真实。

    • 回复: @utu
  115. Rehmat 说:
    @Salger

    You mean the Jewish hordes who monopolized black slavery converted to Islam?

    That doesn’t make sense because Jews are still practice White sex-slavery in Israel.

    In May 2016, UK’s labour party suspended Jackie Walker, vice-chairwoman of Momentum movement over posting historical truth about the “African Holocaust” and Jews as “chief beneficiaries of African slavery at sugar plantation.”

    沃克女士声称她和她的伴侣都是犹太血统,并积极参与反种族主义运动。

    沃克女士的说法不是基于她对犹太人的仇恨,而是基于历史事实,比如犹太人与希特勒和墨索里尼的合作——犹太复国主义黑手党不想让公众知道他们的犹太祖先不仅在非洲奴隶制中发挥了重要作用,而且过去也是白奴。 事实上,据以色列时报 29 年 2015 月 XNUMX 日报道,来自俄罗斯和乌克兰的白人基督徒妇女在以色列仍被用作性奴隶。

    犹太人拥有、投保和资助奴隶船,并为它们配备锁链和镣铐,用于跨大西洋奴隶贸易。 他们是拍卖师、佣金商人、经纪人和批发商,用金钱、市场和供应(这里)维持奴隶经济。

    Dr. Raphael in his 1983 book, Jews and Judaism in the United States: A Documentary History, said: “Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated. “This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the ‘triangular trade’ that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750’s, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760’s, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760’s and early 1770’s dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent……

    https://rehmat1.com/tag/slavery-and-jews/?iframe=true&preview=true

  116. Rehmat 说:
    @Salger

    Well Daniel Pipes agree with you. He claims that when Muslim Berbers conquered Spain in 711 CE, the raped every Jewish Serf (slave) woman they saved from Christians and produced the current Sephardim population in Europe including Nicolas Sarkozy’s mother!!!

  117. e 说:
    @Craken

    Knowing how much America loves its sports’ teams, esp. football, let’s say, “Okay, disparate impact for civil service jobs? Then, disparate impact for your fav. football teams too. The Dallas Cowboys MUST, the New England Patriots MUST, the Cleveland Cavaliers and GS Warriors MUST have on their rosters whites, Asians, and Hispanics (maybe even women?) proportionate to their % in our adult population. It’s clear that the owners and coaches exclude them because of bigotry, right? Unfair testing, right?

    SCOTUS, if you think a fireman’s test is unfair to minorities because whites score the highest, well then, you must think the NFL combine is unfair to all but blacks.

  118. MMM 说:

    优秀的文章!

    It’s rare today to find gifted writers, even in the alternative press, able to understand the police side of any issue to do with race — to our detriment. Mr. Derbyshire is an exception.

    Another take on the subject, which may explain that:
    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2016/07/08/from-11-11-2013-the-uber-rich-want-us-to-have-a-racial-civil-war/

  119. carol 说:

    I guess this is why, a century ago, the policy in the South was to keep them in fear. They knew how to act with authority back then, didn’t they? For the most part.

  120. @Truth

    So Fred ,does this men you’re not going to kick Derb’s ass anymore?

    I guess he decided to kiss his ass a bit to make it feel better.

  121. Priss Factor [又名“匿名者”] 说: • 您的网站

    End tough policing and all policies like ‘stop and frisk’.

    The urban Progs(who benefited most from tough law enforcement) are bitching about police brutality. Okay, so let’s have Police Nicety. Since Progs say Negroes are so wonderful, there is nothing to fear.

    If Negroes get out of hand, let the Progs deal with it.
    No more calling on the cops to fix problems.

  122. Art 说:

    My instinct, so far as these three shootings are concerned: Let’s wait and see what 调查 找到。

    FOX JEWS – “The Five” Starts Race War

    Thursday 5:00 PM – before Dallas.

    Juan Williams starts show with a less than full throttled defense of the blacks shot by the cops.

    Gutfeld – does customary rand, goes no way to long, shows his contempt for the black’s problems – ends with “investigate.”

    Perino – the pro-war sweetheart – ends with “investigate.”

    Bolling – “investigate”

    Guilfoyle – always defends cops, prosecutors, “investigate.”

    Micah X –watches show – sees ZERO concern for black people – goes to war for his people.

    Dallas – midnight – five dead cops – seven wounded.

    唔!

    Saying “investigate” is a cop out! It lacks any concern for the dead. It says they probably deserved to die.

    Totally typical FOX JEWS – no white concern for black deaths at the hands of cops.

    Four of the FIVE showed their racist stripes – they showed no understanding of the problem – they went brainstem political (more likely paycheck political).

  123. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    Cops already let ghettos alone anyway. Quite often, they only enter ghettos when they get a 911 call. They don’t patrol the place because they’d have to make 10 arrests per block.

  124. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @KenH

    Tactically speaking, Trumps needs to stay quiet. Conservatives already back him. It’s important to let BLM and shootings backfire all over liberals and let liberals stew in it. If Trump wants their support, he needs liberals to have this violence rubbed in their face before they’ll start to admit their own political opinions are a bunch of nonsense. You don’t interrupt the process of dawning consciousness by grandstanding. Trump needs the support of liberals who are growing terrified of black violence and who will change their minds in the privacy of the voting booth and back him.

  125. @WorkingClass

    They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race.

    Yeah, no kidding. I have little doubt that is the exact and only reason some of that so called “research” is being done. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that all of it is totally bogus. I mean ALL of it. It’s the old mumbo jumbo mystify ’em routine, and who dares question a “scientific expert?”

    95% of what we’re told is pure B.S., the rest is highly questionable, and the scams have been going on for millennia.

    PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain’t anyone in the lower or middle classes.

    • 回复: @WorkingClass
  126. Dissident 说:
    @Captain Obvious

    Anyone who has been listening-to and/or reading Derbyshire regularly for any time now knows that he regularly mentions and calls-out Soros and his funding of BLM agitators.

  127. HBD Guy 说:

    Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken

  128. @Truth

    Furthermore, dumb as a stump. Thanks for proving my point.

  129. @Jacques Sheete

    I respect the science. It’s not the fault of the scientists that their findings are misused by people with an ax to grind.

    顺便一提:
    “PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain’t anyone in the lower or middle classes.”

    Thanks for that. Unite against the .01%. It’s an urgent message not repeated nearly often enough.

    In a lighter vein; I’m increasingly concerned about the high IQ people. They are not like us. They don’t belong here. And they all think they are so fucking smart.

    • 回复: @Jacques Sheete
  130. @AndrewR

    You do not have to care, but understand that the man was not a criminal. I know of white nationalists in Blue Ridge Georgia, and they have conceled carry permits-if a police officer killed them while they were lawfully carrying a weapon I would still be upset. The second amendment is paramount, I am a NRA member for a reason.

  131. Wow! Does Roberts “get it” or what?

    Four particularly brilliant sentences in a completely brilliant piece.:

    我一直对种族主义的解释持怀疑态度。 这是向公众提供的一种解释,目的是使公众陷入无法团结起来对抗真正压迫者的警告派系。

    对世界的两个最大威胁是美国和以色列的例外主义。

    无例外的民族是必不可少的。

    https://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/

  132. @Priss Factor

    I’m looking forward to a similar selfie rant video from Derb called “Barack Obama RETIRES!!!!!!!”

  133. @Captain Obvious

    More like “Captain Oblivious” I think.

    • 回复: @another fred
  134. @5371

    I am not blaming white people, I am blaming the officer in the MN shooting exclusively. In the other recent shootings things my be open to discussion due the circumstances, not in MN. In MN the man was shot while going out of the way to obey the law, was not a felon , and was in total compliance with conceled carry. I do not see how you could construe any of my comments to be blaming white people.

  135. gda 说:
    @Rehmat

    I am loathe to point out facts to disturb your narrative here, but its a fact that slavery was rather rampant everywhere in the world up until almost 200 years ago, when WHITE Christians finally put a stop to it. Were it not for those WHITE Christians, slavery would undoubtedly still be popular and widely practised today.

    You might note another not unconnected fact – that modern society and western civilization was overwhelmingly brought about by WHITE Christians.

    The White Mans Burden was and continues to be a very real thing. Thanks to WHITE civilization, BLM and their ilk are able to have the opportunity to lead us down the garden path back to barbarism.

  136. gda 说:
    @Berta Arnason

    But to ignore the correct statistical interpretation of the black/white IQ difference and the part genes play is to ignore the truth, just as we have been doing these past 50 years.

    Its a fact now that cops are more likely to shoot you if you’re white than if you’re black. Ask Derb to give you the figures.

    Its a fact that there are, statistically speaking, more blacks with STEM jobs than you would expect, given the requirement of having an IQ>115 to perform such a job adequately.

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.

    So your claim about how “These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane” is bull. That just perpetuates the false narratives of the grievance mongers that the reason blacks don’t get ahead or are “unfaired” is because they “still suffer the effects of slavery and Jim Crow” or because “its all whitey’s fault”. Wake up and smell the coffee. You’ve been constantly lied to for all your life – use your brain to escape the lies. Many people do not have that capability, sadly.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
    , @Jacques Sheete
  137. Capper 说:
    @Captain Obvious

    Oh great… Now I have the privilege of reading Captain Obvious’ 100% insane ridiculous rants on this forum in addition to Heartiste and ROK. Hey, don’t forget to spam post the Happy Merchant pic!

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  138. @Corvinus

    Separate but equal is impossible because the people are not equal.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  139. utu 说:
    @WorkingClass

    “Lets accept the realty of race AND cops.” – You are right. Unfortunately most commenters here do not see it that way.

  140. utu 说:
    @Biff

    “People kill each other daily, and now suddenly everyone is butt hurt over five guys who volunteered to put on a uniform, and join the violence.” – Great comment!

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
  141. Bill Jones 说:

    This fucker really loves him some police state, doesn’t he?

  142. Corvinus 说:
    @gda

    “Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males.”

    是的。

    “The difference is genetic.”

    Um, no. It MAY be genetic, but more likely environmental.

  143. Corvinus 说:
    @Epochehusserl

    “Separate but equal is impossible…”

    We’ll never know, because those Southerners in power just had to make sure that the facilities for whites and blacks were decidedly UNEQUAL in spite of the Plessy ruling.

    “because the people are not equal.”

    In some cases people are not equal, but in other cases, they are equal. Blacks in the South, for example, had clearly received unequal accommodations during Jim Crow. Southerners violated the law. As a consequence of their actions, legislation was enacted.

    Get it through that thick skull of yours…Jim Crow ain’t coming back.

    • 回复: @epochehusserl
  144. Corvinus 说:
    @Capper

    “on this forum in addition to Heartiste and ROK.”

    Great, another fanboi of single males without (white) children. You do realize that their actions are anti-white, correct?

  145. @Corvinus

    The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.

    I remember the ‘sixties civil rights movement reasonably well, and do not recall that black violence took place particularly in the South. Black protests in the South were largely peaceful, and most of the violence there was on the parts of whites (e.g., the murders of Medgar Evers, Viola Liuzzo, Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney). Most of the black rioting took place outside the South, e.g., in Chicago, Detroit, Watts, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C. (whether the last two should be considered parts of the South is questionable).

    • 回复: @Kyle a
  146. @Corvinus

    Get it through your thick skill, the educational facilities were worse because of the people there not because of the land it was on. I don’t want to go back to Jim crow, I want to rely on standardized testing you want to rely on violent protests. They need to make educational materials available online and allow private employers to create their own credentials if they want. They need to phase out government spending on higher education as having betrayed the public trust.

  147. @WorkingClass

    And they think that because they’re smart that they aren’t ignorant, when in reality tons of smart people turn out to be as ignorant as stumps.

    Despite their ignorance they think their “smartness” alone entitles them to special favors.

  148. joef 说:
    @woodNfish

    I read your other posts and I stand corrected you are not an afro american apologist.

    However my alleged ‘racist blinders’ is from real world experiences of myself as well as the majority of people I know who lived in urban areas, that adjoin afro american ghettos.
    What is your excuse? The anarcho capatilist crap with this freedom fighter nonsense against the police is a little tiring. They act like getting a traffic ticket is equivalent to the trip to the gulag. Its not a revelation that out of 400,000 police officers that there are a number of police abuse incidents by some aggressive egocentric cops.
    Where were the anarchos when police unions publicly complained about ticket quotas and had unsuccessful slowdowns because of it. Answer is: no where, because anarchos are just a bunch of utopian theorist like any socialist/marxist would be. All this anarcho capitalist anti police rhetoric just gives aid and comfort to the radical BLM crowd and are just making things worse for the rest of us. Instead of keeping their eye on the ball, they confuse the issue with their imaginative ideology of mass police killings of unarmed people by every officer in existence within all the different unrelated police departments in this nation. If that was true, with 400,000 police officers in this country, there should be bodies all over the place. Wow they must have swept all those 400,000 bodies under the rug somewhere without the rest of us knowing (with exception of the anarchos of course).

    But this is the real rub: they use the same collectivist guilt methods of leftist by saying all officers are responsible for the actions of others (sort of like what the afro americans and their lib handlers say about whites); that some how they all know what each other is thinking, and therefore are all accountable when an aggressive egocentric officer behaves badly. So lets add some logic with out the freedom fighter emotional nonsense of the Rothbard types:

    >> Unarmed people can kill you (maybe you do not know that or believe it, but it does not make it any less true)
    >> Most police officers work for different employers;
    >> Each employer has their own set of policies and procedures;
    >> All police officers do not know each other;
    >> Police officers do not have telepathic links with each other;
    >> The cop walking his foot post in a inner city has no idea what a cop in suburbia or rural areas are doing at this very moment and vice versa.
    >> A cop walking his inner city foot post has no control over some suburban/rural cop is abusing his authority at the moment, or vice versa.
    >> Just because you got abused by a cop does not make all the cops in the world, who don’t even know each other, responsible for his behavior (especially since he does not even know that said incident even occurred)
    >> Like everyone else, protecting your own life is a fundamental human right, but somehow out of petty resentments, the anarchos want to deny police this right of having a rational self interest in protecting themselves from aggression.
    – – They just do not get it that when you attack the police right to use justified force, you are also attacking your own right to use justified force in the same circumstances. A person would have to be completely naive to think otherwise (if they do not let the police do it, do you really think the court system will let you do it?).
    >> And finally, to state the obvious, not every use of deadly force by police is illegitimate use of force.

    Instead of blaming all cops for things they have no control over, like the actions of the police hierarchy, or an aggressive egocentric peer who is not listening to him anyway and threatens him with a loss of backup (which is potentially life threatening), try promoting these reforms:
    – eliminate ticket quotas and civil forfeitures;
    – stop marxist style ubiquitous use of police road blocks only allowing for the exception of searching for violent felons during an in progress incident.
    – Stop having smaller police departments overusing SWAT teams for silly non life threatening petty offense enforcement (that is what the over used phrase militarized police really is – – just a bunch of over eager small police departments overusing their SWAT teams for nonsense that involves no threats to officer/public safety).

    • 回复: @woodNfish
  149. @gda

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.

    It’s also a fact that old, black males are involved in violent mass carnage at a much lesser rate than old, white males.

    In fact, old, rich, white males have a horrible record of mass murder including waging world wars, mass genocide, and the unjustified use of atomic weapons to name just a few examples of their hideous behavior.

    Izzat genetic or izzit because they’re a bunch of greedy, retarded, arrogant, degenerate cloacas? Hmmmm?

    • 回复: @Kyle a
  150. utu 说:

    Paul Craig Roberts “Police Murder Because They Are Trained to Murder” got it right while JD above is blinded by his prejudices.
    https://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/

  151. gda 说:
    @Corvinus

    Lets see what our friend Jayman has to say on the genetic thing (versus the environmental)
    https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/how-much-hard-evidence-do-you-need/

    How much hard evidence DO you need?

    The environmental explanation has truly gone the way of the dodo. The developments in the genetic “industry” recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
    , @Sam Shama
  152. @Corvinus

    No, it’s genetic. We don’t have the time for feel-good lies any more. The presence of blacks has a devastating effect on non-black societies and we know why. Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible. Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way. We have everything to gain and nothing to lose from such an attitude.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  153. You need to stop pretending that we have a future together while blacks are shooting at the police. Black thinkers believe that it was the school itself that provides the success while it was the standards that blacks couldn’t meet that leads to success. Blacks being at yale yelling at people to reject white male standards through bullhorns is not the formula that lead to Yale being a revered institution while the country plunges toward national bankruptcy. No more black supremacy. No more violent student activism or careerisrs overlooking such.

  154. @Corvinus

    If it’s environmental then look at the family structure. You look at absolute material equality as the natural order of things. It’s not possible. You argument is that if any white person has anything that a black person doesn’t then the system is rigged. The proportion of whites who have an iq of over 115 is so much higher than for blacks that we shouldn’t expect equality. IQ is not the only thing that matters but it does matter.

  155. woodNfish 说:
    @joef

    When I was a teenager I used to deliver newspapers to blacks in the projects. I drove an MGB and I kept the top down and never had a problem delivering my papers or having anything stolen while I collected on subscriptions. My father used to send me into the middle of the black section of town to get BBQ from a restaurant there because that was the best BBQ in town. This was in a city of 250k people. Not small town USA. So, I have some real world experience with blacks as well, and I don’t hate them just because they are black. They need to fix their problems themselves though because it cannot be done for them. If they aren’t the solution it will never happen. That is why I say they are their own worse enemy.

    I agree with you about the SWAT problem, but just as with blacks, I do not think you can change the police from the outside either. They have to do it, and I think disarming would be a good start. You say cops live in a dangerous world, I say they have made it more dangerous by the brutality of their actions.

    Do we really have 400,000 cops in the US? Is that just local forces or are you also counting federal cops like the BATF and FBI? That is an occupying force and way too many cops. To me, it just shows how ridiculously large and oppressive the government has become and should be cut by at least 80% like the rest of the government mafia. I’m also sure it will never happen without a violent revolution. Perhaps we are seeing the start of one, but I doubt it.

    • 回复: @joef
    , @RadicalCenter
  156. Kyle a 说:
    @Salger

    Salver please refrain from future comments unless you can get a grip on basic math

    • 回复: @Salger
  157. Kyle a 说:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    Well of course you do. Corvinus is a revisionist with early stage dementia

  158. Corvinus 说:
    @gda

    Jayman, of course, has a particular bias, and has been known to make his OWN conclusions from the studies to suit his narrative. For example. the results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene, which Jay-Man offered, should be interpreted with caution in light of a number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies. First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results. Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders. Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples. Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society. Regarding the Add Health Study, the researchers even cautioned that there is a weak causal link between those with higher dopamine levels and less education levels. That means there has yet to be an established cause, whether it be definitively biological or environmental. Regarding a study involving the DRD4 gene, which is associated with impulsive behavior, the researchers even acknowledged it is possible that individuals bearing these alleles were selected against because of cultural patterns in China.

    • 回复: @another fred
  159. Corvinus 说:
    @silviosilver

    “No, it’s genetic.”

    Genetic and environmental, yes.

    “Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible.”

    这个“我们”是谁?

    “Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way.”

    Who is “the rest of us”?

    • 回复: @epochehusserl
    , @silviosilver
  160. joef 说:

    The problem is that you have anarcho capitalist running cover for afro american atrocities along with the liberals. They try to make up a bogus case that police are shooting innocent unarmed persons routinely (if so where are all the bodies? Answer there are none except in anarcho produced fantasies)
    Even if we compared bad police shootings to afro american perpetrated homicide rate is like comparing a match flame to an inferno!!
    Its just silly anarcho nonsense expressed by whiners who got a traffic ticket from one obnoxious cop and believe they went through the gulag, and every other cop who wasn’t there is responsible for it. Like liberals, they do not even know that you can get killed by an unarmed man (it must be nice to live in such a sheltered life).
    With all the real problems going on with the deterioration of this nation, I wish the anarchos would just step aside with their silly freedom fighter fantasies and let the adults handle it.

  161. joef 说:
    @woodNfish

    Its not about liking or disliking blacks. The color of their skin makes no difference – – its the violent behavior and other associated dysfunctions that are the problem. I specify afro american instead of using the racial category black on purpose, because I am specifically talking about the ethnic group of afro americans as opposed to Sub Saharan African immigrant who on average are productive & behave in a much more respectful manner
    I am glad that you had good experiences with afro americans in a city. But understand many many of us of different races (one of my friends I visited in the hospital from an unprovoked afro american attack was Puerto Rican) did not have the same experiences. You were lucky, most of us were not.

    That figure 400,000 probably includes the FEDS. Are there too many law enforcement officers in this nation can be debated, and if there is a reduction it should start with the FEDS. But it is up to the local community to decide what they need. However you are not going to convince people in areas adjoining high crime rates.
    I think you are confusing the cause and effect of police violence:
    >> The police are more violent by working in violent areas, otherwise you would have police violence occurring in suburbia and rural areas at the same rate – – but it is not.
    Regarding disarming the police? Who would take the job then? You might as well give up the streets to the criminal gangs.

    • 回复: @woodNfish
  162. The developments in the genetic “industry” recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.

    Oh, how convenient.

    FYI, the developments in the propaganda industry have been quite astounding as well.

    While I have no quarrel with science, I do recognize that one fatal flaw is that it is conceived, paid for, conducted and its results interpreted by for their own ends more often than not.

    NB: Just because some schmuck calls something “science” doesn’t mean we should believe it. Much of today’s so called “science” serves an agenda (as opposed to the search for truth) and hardly rises to the credibility of pop science.

    It gets even worse when Joe Schmo gets involved with his own interpretations of what he dreams is science.

    • 回复: @gda
  163. @Corvinus

    The rest of us are people who believe in standardized tests not violent protests. The rest of us are people who believe in the marriage contract unlike blacks or feminists. The rest of us are people who believe in objective third party standards such as due diligence in lending, IQ tests, asvab testing, gold standard in credit creation, and much else besides. It’s going to be possible in the near future to train online people without the ed cartel and then what happens to your activism then.

  164. woodNfish 说:
    @joef

    We agree on many things, and I agree that blacks are more violent than other races. They seem to like killing each other even more than other races too. But as I have written, they are their own worse enemy.

    As for who would take the jobs, I think plenty of people would. Cops would no longer be seen a a lethal threat. That will probably save some cop lives and many more lives of unarmed citizens. I also think more people would trust the cops if they were disarmed. Most blacks do not want the crime in their neighborhoods either, but can’t trust the cops who use their authority as a blunt instrument that just seems to make things worse.

    I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but more of what is done now is not the answer. And I do not want to give more power and lethality to an already out of control and thuggish government.

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
    , @joef
  165. @Corvinus

    Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society.

    And there it is, the soft velvet glove that wraps the iron fist, presented with the oh-so-reasonable demeanor.

    Yes, we need “further research”, but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?

    No, Corvinus (Crow), I don’t think you do, but I believe you know it is controlled and you seem to be happy with that.

    Of what little research is done it must be done by “good scientists”. But Catch 22 says that a person who starts with a hypothesis of genetic differences is by definition not a “good scientist”.

    “Good scientists” know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear. If you don’t think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa. Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?

    Only fools do not know the fist that is inside the glove. Only knaves pretend it is not there.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  166. @Avery

    Better sense of humor a stronger grasp of the facts.

    US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel’s GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is “living off the US taxpayer”.

    • 回复: @Kyle a
    , @RadicalCenter
    , @Avery
  167. HBD Guy 说:

    不能争辩的是,无休止地输入廉价劳动力从事苗条工作,给黑人造成了极大的伤害。 那么,黑人多么忠诚于抢夺了他们的就业和尊严的民主党。 自由移民政策对黑人的伤害最大。

    • 回复: @Joe Franklin
  168. Sam Shama 说:
    @gda

    I actually agree with Corvinus’ specific take on Jay Man’s proclivity to bend [at times ridiculously] the results of studies he proffers with carefree abandon and brands as “Genetic Law”, the statistical -inferential results. I had a lengthy argument with Jay Man on these matters, and while I am no expert on Genetics and genomic studies, I happen to know statistical methods quite well. So after a somewhat lengthy back and forth with Jayman, when he clearly felt cornered, [I reckon he never expected a reader to follow up on the prolific references he tosses as a way to deflect argument], he stopped publishing my replies, at which point Phil Giraldi allowed me to post these OT replies on his contemporaneous article.

    Here are the archives of the discussion:
    https://www.unz.com/comments/commenter/Sam+Shama/?s=+&searchsubmit=Search&authors=jayman&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Sam+Shama

    Do understand please, I am no SJW per by any stretch of the received definition, and I do believe that Affirmative Action on balance has been a failure in too many respects; discouraging individual effort and industry, encouraging entitlement, encouraging politically expedient behaviour, grift and finally inter-sectional resentment and angst. So, it has been a net load on society. It is of course easy to say so on a 事后 basis, and we shall never know with any certainty if things would have turned out better for Blacks [and society at large] had Affirmative Action not been instituted. Yet it is a far cry to conclude from all of this, that Blacks in general, accounting for all age groups and income levels, are more violence-prone than other racial sub-categories. Certainly it seems that the younger set are more violent, and the police force being keenly aware of this, are on balance inclined to value their own lives a bit more than those of potentially armed criminals.

    So what are we to do? I suppose it has to be a containable volatile environment in society, one for which we expend minimally sufficient amounts to keep the violent set [of all races] in hermetically sealed colonies. Which is in fact similar to what we have, have we not?

  169. gda 说:
    @Jacques Sheete

    A lot of hand waving with no discernible facts mentioned. Blah, bah, blah. “I refute genetics because its propaganda”.

    And to think I come here for the intelligent comment. Tiny Duck, is that you?

  170. Kyle a 说:
    @Jacques Sheete

    I don’t reckon your from around here. Your grasp of reality shows an IQ landing on the left side of the bell curve.

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
  171. Kyle a 说:
    @International Jew

    So that means the 4 billion or so a year we send is totally unnecessary? Have them cut us a check brother.

  172. @utu

    I don’t like or trust cops either, but no, they didn’t “sign up” to be murdered by a fifth column of borderline-retarded, parasitic, America-hating, white-hating cretins. That’s contemptible.

  173. @woodNfish

    You think we can fire 80% of our cops and the Africans and other savages won’t immediately run rampant robbing, raping, and killing?

    你住在哪里?

    Have you ever lived in an African-majority neighborhood or town?

    • 回复: @woodNfish
  174. @woodNfish

    So, Africans won’t swarm, overpower and kill these unarmed cops?

  175. @International Jew

    If the USA publicly announced that it no longer considered Israel an ally and that it was neutral in the Israeli-Arab conflict and would not aid Israel in a war, how much more would Israel need to spend on its military?

  176. @Kyle a

    You might be more credible if you could spell “you’re.”

    • 回复: @Biff
  177. Biff 说:
    @RadicalCenter

    You might be more credible if you could spell “you’re.”

    Because being a grammar Nazi in a comments section screams of heroism and credibility.

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
  178. @Biff

    Didn’t say it was heroic to be grammatical, just that it tends to make us more credible. Most people learn the difference between “you’re” and “your” in elementary school, and your sarcasm doesn’t change the embarrassing fact that you never did.

  179. Salger 说:
    @Kyle a

    Tell me more on how White Christian Men took the most Black slaves. I guess slavery by Blacks and Arabs was okay since they didn’t take as many Blacks?

  180. Avery 说:
    @International Jew

    {US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel’s GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is “living off the US taxpayer”.}

    Then please, pretty please ask Israeli leaders from begging, sorry 严格, US\$5 billion @ year from US taxpayers.

    And about that Israeli GDP: what percentage of that GDP is thanks to US markets being fully open to Israeli goods, US military technology being stolen by Israel and being sold to US’s enemies (China), Israeli firms given unfettered access to US consumer….and on and on.

    Israel can put its convictions where its begging mouth is and stop demanding aid from US taxpayers.

    [US officials: Israel requesting \$5 billion in annual defense aid]
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-officials-israel-requesting-5-billion-in-annual-defense-aid/

    • 回复: @Clyde
  181. woodNfish 说:
    @RadicalCenter

    1. Yes, I do, and no I don’t. Blacks mainly kill each other. I would rather have an armed citizenry and very, very very small government than the fascist surveillance police state we have now.

    2. I live at home.

    3. No I haven’t, and I won’t because I am not moving to Africa or do you mean black amerikans?

  182. Jay Igaboo 说:
    @Simon in London

    I’m Scottish Simon, but I’m wondering which London you’re in–it must be London Ontario, but it certainly isn’t the ethnically enriched London where the diversity were so vibrant in the summer of 2011 that the rest of the world thought that there was a riot going on. The MSM, of course, denied reality and the suggestion that the vast majority were soul brothas and sistas, and lots and lots of other “Britons” called Mohammed or Abdul. Here’s an hilarious clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s_JQsOECyc of 30seconds of Sky News hag Kaye Burley interviewing an eye witness to ask him what he saw and telling him he couldn’t possibly have seen what he actually saw.
    . The guy. “Big Jim” was kind of young and hipster-looking, and Burley was very smiley and flirtatious with him until he said he saw ”lots of black guys raiding one of my businesses.” The truth was very obviously what she didn’t want to hear, she didn’t want the viewers to hear it either, and Burley repeated that she was sure he didn’t see what he saw, then cut the interview short . “Big Jim starts at 2mins 30 seconds in. I recommend you jump to that, unless if you have a good ear for the jungle-grunt Shamaican and a desire to hear yet more PC tripe of the hip-hop “artist” Burley interviewed first.

    Interestingly, as the riots progressed and trembling reporters were sent to cover rioting as it happened, their narrative of multi-kulti bliss collapsed in front of their eyes: the bien pensant metropolitan types pensant-ed a little less bien, and a lot more accurately, as the mob moved much closer to Notting Hill, where many of the Polmeeja live.
    For a couple of days we had news that almost reflected reality, but when the riots fizzled out, the normal rose-tinted PC lens was replaced on the cameras and they decided that it all be Whitey’s fott fo’ shooting de bruthah Mark Duggan, who was only dealin’ dope and such gangsta stuff.
    and who had just bought a ( highly illegal) gun from a Brutha from anutha mutha to aid him in his business, and those pig [电子邮件保护] shot him befo’ he had a chance to shoot dem.
    看到了什么?
    It’s just like America, Simon, with the added complication of millions more hostile and unassimilable Muslims in a much smaller nation.
    BTW, for everyone’s sake, I would be delighted if history proves you right and me just another bigoted piece of working class White trash, but the most superficial examination of history indicates otherwise,

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  183. @Jay Igaboo

    I was in Bank on the night of the ‘riot’. I remember my then-wife phoned me at 9pm: “You have to come home! London’s burning!”

    I’d just say there wasn’t the same level of racist attacks on whites for being white here that you see in US riots like the 1992 LA riots. There simply is not the same level of racist hate against whites in the UK that you see in the USA. Have you visited the USA? I remember going in 1996, arriving in Detroit airport, the venomous hate from the black airport staff was shocking. I eventually got used to it a bit, as I guess most white Americans do. Blacks in London commit huge amounts of violent crime but there is nothing like US levels of racial hatred.

    • 回复: @Jay Igaboo
  184. @Corvinus

    Who is this “we”? Who is “the rest of us”?

    Non-blacks who don’t want to see their societies devastated by blacks. Obviously that doesn’t include you, so you go on your merry way and let us do the same. Pretty simple.

  185. @Corvinus

    I don’t know of any low iq whites that breed like rabbits that’s just something that you invented right here. The reason we are so hell bent on eugenics for one group is because blacks are so far behind. What future do you see with the cops being shot at?

  186. Jay Igaboo 说:
    @Simon in London

    Well, Simon, I think that for a number of reasons it is quite difficult to quantify the average degree of hatred some Blacks have for Whites in the two nations.
    The main reason is that in both, the leaders and apparatchiks of the governments and the MSM connive to conceal anything that contradicts the multi-kulti narrative.
    Yes, I have been in the States, and travelled widely throughout the Americas.
    I first went to the USA with our Army in 1970, and in a two- week leave period I hitched with a comrade through the New England states. Hitching is a great way to get the “feel” of a country, and I got lifts from (mostly) Whites, a couple of Blacks, and two (very drunk Indians!). The two blotto Indians were entertaining, to say the least, especially as there was no speed limit on the highway till the Arabs turned off the oil tap in ’73.
    Regardless of race, it’s generally nice folks that give a hitcher a lift, I’ve often been entertained, educated and enlightened, the worst that’s ever happened is some have bored me!
    My next trip was in ’78, when with a girl friend I delivered a car for Autodriveaway ( what a great idea, American efficiency at its best, you deliver a car and pay nothing). Over the five days you have to deliver it, I drove a Firebird from NY to Ft Worth TX. then picked upa Dodge Brougham and drove the Border in Brownsville .
    After a couple of months in Latin America, I hitched and drove from Nuebo Laredo to Florida.
    Again, a met many Americans of all races, conversed much and stayed as a guest with two of them.
    What I learned from my encounters was rather surprising, and very different from the liberal Hollywood portrayal of race in America.
    I found that people of all races were generally more courteous (by a country mile) than in the North, and that race relations seemed more amiable in the South.
    I stayed with a middle-class farming couple as a guest for a couple of days, and with another couple whom HollyYork would consider White trailer-trash( as nasty a piece of stereotyping as anything out there.) These “trailer trash” were married with a young daughter, working, and thoroughly decent. And without animus to Blacks, but slightly aggrieved at their special privilege.
    The husband worked down in the refinery a fair drive away, and considered himself really fortunate to be employed there, remarking to me “ The first choice for a job, is the Black woman, followed by the Black man”.
    As PC had not taken its stranglehold on British life back then, I dismissed this as a nonsense statement—I really didn’t think that either sensible or true- my belated apologies to him.

    As regards your “arriving in Detroit airport, the venomous hate from the black airport staff was shocking” I encountered similar from NY Blacks employed in service industries, including a ticket clerk in NY subway who was infuriated by my polite request to repeat his answer (given in unintelligible lumpen ghetto) to my enquiry. He became even nastier every time I asked him to speak slowly and clearly, and as I took no sh/t whatsoever from ignoramuses in those days, I responded in kind, attracting the attention of a subway cop. After explaining the situation, he gave me a “these people” observation that would get him fired these days for Thought Crime.
    On the other hand, as I said, in The South, I found any coloured folk in or out of their work, pleasant more often than not, and certainly no indication of hatred.
    However, the London riots were a clear indication of how much too many Blacks and too many Muslims hate Whites—as are the hugely disproportionate crimes they commit against Whites, and their levels of passive aggression.

  187. Jay Igaboo 说:
    @Corvinus

    Bit of both, if you’re honest.
    When times were bad for Black Americans, they aspired to much the same goals as Whites did then, and they were (same as many Whites now) not deliberately degraded by Marxist deconstruction of the family , education and morality to to the hedonistic and bestial level many a currently occupy. When people do not have a strong moral framework, and a social infrastructure that reinforces it, generally, (but with exceptions) the less intelligent are more easily manipulated and corrupted.
    I suppose the exception to that would be the intelligent secular Jew who has exchanged his religioun, with its moral strictures for the quasi-religion of Cultural Marxism.

  188. joef 说:
    @woodNfish

    You act as if a gun is a talisman that controls human actions (thats similar to what liberals believe) Its not the gun, its the personality holding the gun. Saying a gun will make a cop abuse his authority is similar to the liberal nonsense that guns cause crime. It does not.
    If you hire an officer who believes that police work is a calling, or an average joe who just needs a job, it will not be a gun that modifies his behavior (although years of urban ghetto police experience can modify anyones behavior for the worse). If you hired an aggressive egocentric as a cop he will be abusive with or without a gun (although maybe more cautious without a gun).
    Aggressive egocentrics, machiavellians, sociopaths, and narcissist persons, enjoy positions of power regardless if they have firearms available, and those type of people are not a reflection of people who work as police officers who are not like them. The gun does not make the personality, its the personality holding the gun, and the gun changes nothing except the ability to address in progress armed felony violent crimes.

    – – It does strike me odd that we always to prefer to attack the police for alleged transgressions but we always seem to give the ghetto afro american thugs a pass (probably because police families only provide million votes and afro americans and their white guilt panderers provides tens of millions of votes; the politicians and MSM are just going with the winning side).

    Its somewhat utopian to believe Afro american criminals do merely attack each other, I can assure you otherwise that they attack the rest of society as well (This crime causes billions of dollars of damages to our economy); and if cannot be contained with a armed police force, what makes you believe it can be contained with an unarmed police force.

    I lived in the days of street justice and police officers in those days readily cooperated with street justice administered by the community (no questions asked), as it should be. That did keep criminals somewhat manageable, but not completely. What stopped the administration of street justice was sometimes it was abused (they beat up the wrong guy or someone who was merely just passing through); and second, the liberal MSM and district attorneys office hated it because it challenged their monopoly on criminal justice (which was nothing but a catch and release program: the police catch & courts release).

    When legitimate street justice stopped, and residents could no longer be involved in the security of their own neighborhoods, that led to the rapid deterioration of the areas, and promoted white (and working class hispanic) flight.

    • 回复: @woodNfish
  189. Corvinus 说:
    @another fred

    “Yes, we need “further research”, but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?”

    Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe.

    ““Good scientists” know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear.”

    Assuming that these “good scientists” are adhering to the scientific method and are taking precautions so as to their own prejudices are not infused in the results of their experiments. It is not even remotely reasonable to take scientific evidence at face value anymore, much less the pseudoscience so often being substituted for the results produced by genuine, if often flawed, scientists. Anytime a study is cited, there is already a shadow cast over it, in particular race and genetics.

    “If you don’t think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa.”

    They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists.

    “Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?”

    Maybe he realizes deep down he would have to up his game considerable in the face of criticism for his methodologies and interpretation of results.

    • 回复: @res
  190. @Simon in London

    Wasn’t it the police shooting of a black guy, Mark Duggan, that triggered the 2011 riots? I see he fathered 6 children by age 29.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan

    A middle aged white guy got beaten to death by youths in Ealing, and elsewhere at least 2 white people were stopped and stripped naked as humiliation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Richard_Mannington_Bowes

  191. woodNfish 说:
    @joef

    You either have a comprehension problem or you just enjoy trying to read more into what I wrote than is actually there.

    First of all, I have never excused blacks for their high crime rates, and it is a fact that blacks kill each other more often than other races.

    Secondly, cops murdering unarmed citizens is the problem. They mostly shoot their victims to death and that is why disarming them is good idea. It removes the cop’s option to reach for his gun. I suggest you read Paul Roberts latest post on why cops murder people. I’m tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

    • 回复: @joef
  192. joef 说:
    @woodNfish

    I never said you excused afro american crime in my last post – – if you read carefully, I meant the MSM & politicians (i used the word “we”).
    So it is not a comprehension problem but simply your premise is not supported by reality:

    a) So what you are saying is that all police involved shootings are illegitimate even when they are protecting their own lives or the life of others from a violent criminal thugs using deadly physical force against them or someone else.
    — I guess you want to throw out the whole legal concept of Justified Use of Force that comes back as far as the English Common Law days?
    – – or maybe you are saying that once you put on a police uniform you now forfeit your life and should not be allowed to protect yourself & others from deadly physical force?

    b) If all the police shootings were bad, there would be non stop coverage by the liberal adversarial MSM.
    – – if all cops kill people as you allege, where are all the bodies? There should be about 400,000 people killed every year by this means if you are correct.

    c) Even if your belief were true that none of the police involved shootings were ever justified (i guess protecting your own life from a violent thug is never justified in your view) THE COMPARISON TO AFRO AMERICAN CAUSED HOMICIDES COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF POLICE INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IS LIKE COMPARING A MATCH FLAME TO AN INFERNO! Afro americans are by far a much more destructive force, yet you do not seem to care the harm that has caused your fellow citizens?

    d) It is not only black on black crime; afro american victims of crime is throughout society. Are you saying that all the other crime victims at the hands of afro americans are making it up??

    e) You still cannot logically explain how disarming the police will prevent crime from migrating from afro american areas if currently armed police cannot stop it.
    (are you going to build a wall??
    or maybe you believe afro american criminals will just stay put and not attack the rest of us out of the goodness of their hearts, after the police are disarmed).

    f) I have been reading Paul Craig Roberts columns since the 1990s (when crime was really bad) and he is very good on economic policy and knows foreign policy, but he has become totally politically correct sellout in regards to this issue (I guess he is afraid of being called the r word)
    – – like you he seems to be obsessed with proving that every cop kills and every police shooting is unjustified.

    Please face reality and stop being such an ideologue. Your opinions should be based on reality, not reality twisted to your opinions. People like you cannot seem to keep your eye on the ball where our problems really are. Instead you want all of us to give in to satisfy your grudge against the police.

    • 回复: @woodNfish
  193. woodNfish 说:
    @joef

    I find it disturbing that you think the government should be able to execute anyone they want without charges, a trial or a defense. And you obviously don’t understand the word “unarmed” because you are a police apologist.

    • 回复: @joef
    , @joef
  194. joef 说:
    @woodNfish

    No I measure every incident on its own merits, I do not universally condemn (or support) all police involved shootings, like you do, without any examination whats so ever.
    You are a classic ideologue, either go along with your statements, even if they completely contradict reality, or you start with ad hominem attacks.

    I have acquaintances from Nigeria, Romania, former East Germany, and Russia who laugh at your position that police in this nation are what you say they are, as compared to their nation. They all have similar response: “you don’t know what real oppression is”, and I agree.

    You are just a guy who is obsessed with being against the police, and you would probably hate them even if they saved your life one day. So obviously there is no way to reason with you, its either all or nothing: no outliers/no exceptions: all cops must pay to satisfy your antipolice bloodlust.

    The rest of us are not beholden to your fantasies when there is much bigger problems in this nation such as economic decline and racial balkanization (which your biased antipolice rhetoric is helping to promote)

  195. joef 说:
    @woodNfish

    One final point if you make extraordinary claims you need extraordinary evidence to confirm such claims. Your belief in them alone does not make it true. Also your solutions seem like they rely on a sort of ‘magic’ to work.

    The claims I have forwarded is backed up by abundant evidence and available data from legitimate sources (and confirmed by a vast amount of life experience). Even if you research it anecdotally you will find that on news reports on crimes, the majority of descriptions of the suspects are of afro americans. Matter of fact it is so overwhelmingly afro american that the lib MSM no longer wants to report the racial description of criminal perpetrators.

    Are there outliers: of course there are. No group is exclusively bad or good in this world. There are legit working poor African Americans stuck living in the ghetto that they themselves do not like.
    However here is the rub, many of them (but not all) enable and publicly provide emotional support for the predatory thugs in their communities; and that is some of the cause of our divisions.

    Now I know that the anarcho capitalist Lew Rockwell types has gone the cowardly route and purged contributors who may not be politically correct, because they do not provide the party line about race relations. This act of cowardliness ruined libertarianism & is why I no longer identify myself as a paleo libertarian. Lew Rockwell types attacks the police because its a media safe target. He is more interested in his exaggerated claims about the police so he can cozy up with the left, than standing by the truth, and standing by his fellow citizens who were victims of violent crimes mostly at the hands of afro americans.
    Instead they focus on the relatively small amount of occurrences of police abuse, and avoid and ignore the very large problem of afro american crime, entitlements, disaffection and disorder. That problem was not made up, it exists. But the Rockwell crowd has become much like the utopian leftist by holding on to their make believe fantasies, and ignore reality if it gets in the way.

  196. res 说:
    @Corvinus

    Perhaps you would like to offer a citation for “Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe.”

    Government accounts for a significant part of US research spending. From wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

    Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S. The government funding proportion in certain industries is higher, and it dominates research in social science and humanities.

    Notice that the most biased areas have large amounts of government funding. But I suppose that is entirely non-political. /sarc

    Regarding “They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists.” Thanks for making apparent your disingenuousness. In the real world, how has James Watson been doing for research funding since his comments? Oh wait, he retired as a result so is not doing research anymore (AFAIK).

    Let’s revisit Watson’s fairly benign (except for touching a third rail of the Narrative) comments just to see if you disagree with their factuality. Do you? If so, where exactly?

    Watson created a storm of controversy when he told The Sunday Times newspaper that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa,” adding that “[all] our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12835-james-watson-retires-amidst-race-controversy/

    P.S. Those links above are what citations look like. Perhaps you could try including some rather than just incessantly asking others to do so.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  197. Corvinus 说:
    @res

    “Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S.”

    Which means two-thirds comes from non-governmental agencies.

    Next time, offer the ENTIRE context.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

    “Most research funding comes from two major sources, corporations (through research and development departments) and government (primarily carried out through universities and specialized government agencies; often known as research councils). Some small amounts of scientific research are carried out (or funded) by charitable foundations, especially in relation to developing cures for diseases such as cancer, malaria and AIDS.

    According to OECD, around two-thirds of research and development in scientific and technical fields is carried out by industries, and 20% and 10% respectively by universities and government.”

    “Those links above are what citations look like.”

    Which I provide when required. And thanks for linking to a story nine years ago.

    “In the real world, how has James Watson been doing for research funding since his comments? ”

    He was 79 when he retired, and he also backtracked from the comments that he made. Regardless, he should apply to the Pioneer Fund.

    • 回复: @res
  198. res 说:
    @Corvinus

    “Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S.”

    Which means two-thirds comes from non-governmental agencies.

    Next time, offer the ENTIRE context.

    I did. The part you quoted appears in my blockquote above. But given that we are discussing bias, I think emphasizing the most biased research areas is reasonable (especially given their influence on the Narrative). So here we go again: “government … dominates research in social science and humanities=

    Ironic you criticize me for omitting context when you equate “corporations and government” in your citation to “Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe” in your earlier post. I’m curious, do you think various political stripes are equally represented in research funding? I get that in your arguments a single example (e.g. the Pioneer Fund) validates your position while your opponents’ arguments are invalidated by a single counterexample, but perhaps you might try looking at shades of gray (or relative proportions of things in society) occasionally.

    Which I provide when required. And thanks for linking to a story nine years ago.

    When discussing an event from nine years ago a link to a story from when it happened is appropriate. Are you suggesting otherwise? If you are objecting to my use of Watson as an example–I was replying to a thread mentioning him. If you provide links when required why in your original post did you not include one for “Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe” which was a half truth at best?

    Fascinating that you consider Watson backtracking from accurate comments in an effort to salvage his reputation as a positive. Do you enjoy living in 1984?

    P.S. Thanks for addressing my questions. Any time I want to understand what the MSM means by “have a conversation” I just have a “conversation” with you.

    P.P.S. Sincere thanks to another fred for his eloquent “Only fools do not know the fist that is inside the glove. Only knaves pretend it is not there.”

    • 回复: @another fred
    , @Corvinus
  199. @res

    P.P.S. Sincere thanks to another fred for his eloquent “Only fools do not know the fist that is inside the glove. Only knaves pretend it is not there.”

    谢谢。

    If I may be so immodest, I thought it apropos myself, though a bit hyperbolic.

  200. @Chrisnonymous

    More like “Captain Oblivious” I think.

    Or “Captain Obsessive”.

  201. Corvinus 说:
    @res

    “I did. The part you quoted appears in my blockquote above.”

    Which I properly focused on one part of your quotation that lacked context and offered the relevant background information, considering the gist of this post focuses on “race reality”.

    “Ironic you criticize me for omitting context when you equate “corporations and government” in your citation to “Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe” in your earlier post.”

    There is no irony here, only disconnect on your part.

    “I get that in your arguments a single example (e.g. the Pioneer Fund) validates your position while your opponents’ arguments are invalidated by a single counterexample”.

    Strawman much? I merely noted that “race realist theorists” have access to a group to fund their research. I did not invalidate any counter positions.

    ““Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe” which was a half truth at best?”

    ‘Tis entirely true to state that all groups have the opportunity to receive funding for their research endeavors through grants by the federal government. Now, whether or not they receive that grant is an entirely different matter. I thought conservatives who were fiscally responsible would promote PRIVATE funding of research endeavors rather than suck on the teat of the gummint.

    “I’m curious, do you think various political stripes are equally represented in research funding?”

    Well, considering that researchers and scientists are suppose to be objective and neutral, and considering that the scientific process would be compromised if they would outwardly state their political orientation, I would say that those who meet the criteria for the particular grant receive it. In theory, yes. In practice, that’s a great question. You would have to ask those who offer the grants and those who do not receive them.

    ““government … dominates research in social science and humanities”

    Yes, the “soft sciences”, which has been under tons of scrutiny as of late for replication failures.

    “but perhaps you might try looking at shades of gray (or relative proportions of things in society) occasionally.”

    You mean like “race realist theorists”, for example. Take Jay-Man, who makes his own interpretations of the results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene, even though geneticists take heed to the number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies. First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results. Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders. Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples. Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society.

    “Fascinating that you consider Watson backtracking from accurate comments in an effort to salvage his reputation as a positive.”

    If his comments were indeed “accurate”, he would not have been compelled to backtrack, but rather be steadfast in his beliefs.

    “Any time I want to understand what the MSM means by “have a conversation” I just have a “conversation” with you.”

    You’ll learn a lot more by me if you pay closer attention.

    “P.P.S. Sincere thanks to another fred…”

    Get a room, for Pete’s sake.

    • 回复: @res
  202. res 说:
    @Corvinus

    “I get that in your arguments a single example (e.g. the Pioneer Fund) validates your position while your opponents’ arguments are invalidated by a single counterexample”.

    Strawman much? I merely noted that “race realist theorists” have access to a group to fund their research. I did not invalidate any counter positions.

    I think anyone who reads your posts can decide for themselves whether or not my statement is accurate. In my opinion it calls out a pervasive theme in your writing.

    “Fascinating that you consider Watson backtracking from accurate comments in an effort to salvage his reputation as a positive.”

    If his comments were indeed “accurate”, he would not have been compelled to backtrack, but rather be steadfast in his beliefs.

    Thanks for making clear how sincere you are in this “conversation.” That’s my cue to stop wasting my time. Happy posting.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  203. Corvinus 说:
    @res

    “I think anyone who reads your posts can decide for themselves whether or not my statement is accurate. In my opinion it calls out a pervasive theme in your writing.”

    I would look first in the mirror before making that assertion.

    “Thanks for making clear how sincere you are in this “conversation.” That’s my cue to stop wasting my time.”

    That usually means you’ve been outed, and are leaving to “save face”. Watson made a comment, was taken to task for it, and then backtracked. He didn’t make another effort to double down. I can’t help that you doubt my sincerity. If and when you want to engage in substantive debate, then please do so. I’ll be here…

    • 回复: @res
  204. res 说:
    @Corvinus

    I would look first in the mirror before making that assertion.

    Always good advice. You might consider taking it yourself. Regarding the particular statement I was referring to (quoted above), though I have many flaws I’m pretty sure applying asymmetric standards of proof to my and others arguments is one I am less guilty of than most. Can you say the same?

    If and when you want to engage in substantive debate, then please do so. I’ll be here…

    OK. Let’s give that a try. Starting with the accuracy of Watson’s statements. Here is the quote from an article at the time that I linked above:

    Watson created a storm of controversy when he told The Sunday Times newspaper that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa,” adding that “[all] our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.

    This contains two assertions from Watson.
    1. “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa,”
    2. “[all] our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”
    (I believe 2 was the one that caused most of the trouble.)

    Do you agree that is an accurate representation of what he asserted? If not, please propose an alternative including citations. Once we are agreed on statements we can debate their accuracy.

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  205. Corvinus 说:
    @res

    “Fascinating that you consider Watson backtracking from accurate comments in an effort to salvage his reputation as a positive.”

    
I never made any distinct remark, nor attempted to imply, that it was a “positive” for Watson to reverse course. YOU attributed that assertion to me as if I had offered that statement into evidence. 

Please show me EXACTLY where I offer those sentiments.

    “This contains two assertions from Watson.”

    Why would I question those two statements Watson made? He later issued a statement apologizing “unreservedly” for the comments, adding “there is no scientific basis for such a belief.” Whether one believes his sincerity depends on what camp he or she falls in the nature-nurture debate regarding IQ.

    • 回复: @res
  206. res 说:
    @Corvinus

    So much for substantive debate (and to think I was foolish enough to get my hopes up–there’s a good example of one of my flaws). I’ll leave you with your statement about Watson’s accuracy which prompted my objection. Are you disavowing that statement now?

    If his comments were indeed “accurate”, he would not have been compelled to backtrack, but rather be steadfast in his beliefs.

    Watson’s original statement said nothing about the nature-nurture debate on IQ as far as I know. What it did state is the objective reality of lower average IQ in Africa (it would be more precise to say Sub-Saharan Africa) compared to places such as Europe.

    His apology did allude to nature-nurture though: “I can certainly understand why people, reading those words, have reacted in the ways they have. To all those who have drawn the inference from my words that Africa, as a continent, is somehow genetically inferior, I can only apologize unreservedly. That is not what I meant. More importantly from my point of view, there is no scientific basis for such a belief.” from http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-10-18-2851184495_x.htm
    (again, that’s what a citation looks like–if you really do want to have a substantive debate please try using them)
    The interesting thing is the NYT rendered his apology as “I cannot understand how I could have said what I am quoted as having said. There is no scientific basis for such a belief.” with no ellipsis indicating omission. (from http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/science/19watson.html )
    So we see how Watson’s apology (genetics) and his original statement (fact of difference) can be consistent (in particular note his wording regarding the inference of others). On reflection I think clarification would be a better description of that apology than backtrack by the way.

    It is also interesting that you can’t even bring yourself to try to come to agreement on an accurate representation of what Watson said. Why is that?

    P.S. Regarding my backtracking as a positive comment you criticize (yes, it was an inference, one which I stand behind though clearly not admissible as evidence in a court of law, you are a lawyer right?). I guess I’ll add red herring to my list of classic Corvinus rhetorical “techniques” (other prime examples being straw man and motte and bailey): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring#Logical_fallacy

    P.P.S. For anyone interested in more detail on the Watson history: http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/james-watson-tells-inconvenient-truth_296.php

  207. Corvinus 说:

    “Watson’s original statement said nothing about the nature-nurture debate on IQ as far as I know.”

    His comment “that their intelligence is the same as ours–whereas all the testing says not really” assuredly referred to the nature-nurture debate regarding IQ. That is exactly why a number of his colleagues distanced themselves, and exactly why Watson’s backtracking had specific nature-nurture overtones.

    “What it did state is the objective reality of lower average IQ in Africa (it would be more precise to say Sub-Saharan Africa) compared to places such as Europe.”

    This statement, on its face, is accurate. This is NOT Watson’s EXACT statement. Remember, Watson specifically referenced that Africa is not genetically inferior to Europe based on the available scientific evidence. The reason that he got into hot water was NOT because of the test score reference, but because of the larger implication. Does Watson believe in his heart of hearts that Africa IS genetically inferior? I don’t know, but when he says no, he is backtracking from his initial assertion that”our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours”. In retrospect, given his stature, he should have NOT received that level of scrutiny and be forced out. But given his past statements, Watson should have used discretion, although his statements were off-the-cuff. Apparently, in 1997, Watson expressed his sentiments to a British newspaper that women should take the liberty to abort an unborn child when discovering through a test the child would be born gay; he later insisted it was a hypothetical situation. He also suggested a link between skin color and sex drive, and argued in favor of genetic screening to “cure stupidity”, although his position makes little sense in light of his reference to his Scots and Irish ancestors being guided by faith in reason and social justice for “those on top to help care for the less fortunate.”

    “(again, that’s what a citation looks like–if you really do want to have a substantive debate please try using them)”.

    Which I have provided repeatedly when requested or when required, thank you very little.

    “Regarding my backtracking as a positive comment you criticize (yes, it was an inference, one which I stand behind though clearly not admissible as evidence in a court of law, you are a lawyer right?)”



    Which you are openly admitting that you erected a strawman in the first place.

    “though I have many flaws I’m pretty sure applying asymmetric standards of proof to my and others arguments is one I am less guilty of than most.”



    Would that include closely scrutinizing the methodologies and conclusions drawn from those who are acolytes of “race realism” and “race = genetics”?

    Sidebar–IQ to me is a combination of genetics and environment. Race is also biological and social construct.

    • 回复: @res
  208. Clyde 说:
    @Avery

    The Israelis do a great job against the Islamic Jihad and you should have extra taken from your paycheck to support their efforts. Just look how the Jews stack up against the Euro-Weenie French and Germans when it comes to taking on Islamic imperialism and Islamic psycho-killers.

    • 回复: @Parbes
    , @joef
  209. res 说:
    @Corvinus

    Sidebar–IQ to me is a combination of genetics and environment. Race is also biological and social construct.

    This is actually helpful to me (though I confess to having difficulty reconciling it with some of your arguments–perhaps you just like playing devil’s advocate?). Thank you for taking a stand. I agree with you on both counts.

    Would that include closely scrutinizing the methodologies and conclusions drawn from those who are acolytes of “race realism” and “race = genetics”?

    Yes it does. I think advocates of those sometimes overstep their evidence. It’s important to make a distinction between what appears to be proven by the data (a much higher standard) versus what appears to be suggested by the data. Conversely, absence of a high standard of proof of an assertion does not imply the assertion is false or the opposite is true (as in many “race denier” arguments). As an example, at this point I think a genetic component to IQ can be considered proven (as well as anything ever is in behavioral genetics). However, a genetic component to racial differences in IQ is at most suggested by current data (e.g. IQ SNP frequency differences). Having said all that though I think the ‘acolytes of “race realism” and “race = genetics”’ are probably closer to the truth than the race deniers of the Narrative (the neat thing is with advances in genomics we might actually get real answers here, even if only by accident). I also think the retort of “we don’t have enough data” coming from people who actively prevent such research being done is profoundly hypocritical.

    Related to this is the difference between a strawman (e.g. a position no one would argue) and my best assessment of your position. Are you explicitly denying that you saw Watson’s backtracking as a positive? If so, how would you characterize it?

    Regarding the rest. I see no explicit reference to nature/nurture in Watson’s original remarks. In fact, his reference to testing indicates he is referring to current status IMHO. I agree that many people read his remarks as implying a genetic difference (almost any comment about populations and IQ gets tarred with that). Regarding references, I think your comment about Watson’s apology should have included one–especially given that I found two accounts with significantly different meanings (I cited both).

    • 回复: @Corvinus
  210. Parbes 说:
    @Clyde

    “The Israelis do a great job against the Islamic Jihad”

    Really? You can actually say something like this with a straight face? Last time I checked, Israel was supporting the Islamic jihadis against the secular Syrian government, taking care of wounded Al Nusra and ISIS fighters in Israeli hospitals, bombing Syrian military targets etc. (And that’s in addition to stealthily supporting anti-Russian Chechen jihadis, Azerbaijanis against Armenians, etc., for many years prior.) The actual reality: Israel fights Islamic militants ONLY WHEN they are directly attacked or threatened by them; otherwise they are among their best buddies and backers. (And the Muslim militants that DO attack Israel tend to be nationalistically motivated Palestinian or Lebanese guerrillas, rather than bona fide international jihadis of the type attacking Syria and Europe, anyway.)

    • 回复: @Avery
    , @Clyde
  211. joef 说:
    @Clyde

    I agree the Israelis do a very good job with what they have to deal with, especially when circled by hostility. I do have criticisms when too much innocent collateral damage is involved, which in the long run I believe its even counterproductive to the Israeli’s themselves. But even when I disagree with some of their methods, I also understand why the Israeli’s are apt to use aggressive tactics – – they are not going to take a risk of another holocaust. Thus the Israeli’s are really not as concerned with world opinion as much as their own survival, and I guess any other group would act with a similar ends justifies the means attitude, after that kind of history.
    Europeans can learn from them on how to be a more aggressive with their own islamic terrorist. The USA as well can learn from them when we deal with our domestic terrorism in the form of afro american crime motivated by hatred (afro americans criminals kill more people in this country than islamic terrorism). We should all learn how to be aggressive like the Israelis, however attempt to minimize collateral damage against innocent life and property. Otherwise we just cause more potential radicalization.

    • 回复: @Clyde
  212. Avery 说:
    @Parbes

    说得好。

    Israeli chickens___ parasites demanding more of my paycheck to feed ISIS cannibals.
    Israel cares only about Israel.
    Backstabbing Israelis are the same ingrate parasites who murdered Americans on USS Liberty.
    The same backstabbing parasites who let loose a very destructive spy – Jonathan Pollard – into our country, and who caused immense damage to US.

    US does not need anything from Israel.
    Please go away and leave us alone.

    • 回复: @Clyde
  213. Clyde 说:
    @Parbes

    Muslims have been killing the shyte out of each other before Israel existed and they will be doing so after Israel exists if they somehow wipe it out. Israel and its six million Jews are a non-factor when it comes to the centuries of shiite vs sunni wars and other intramural squabbling the Islamic clans and crazies can dream up.
    Allah likes the Muslim cults of war and human sacrifice same as the Aztec sun god demanded fresh blood and fresh plucked beating human hearts daily. If you are a MuzzSymp white boy this is flat out pathetic.

  214. Clyde 说:
    @Avery

    Once more the Izzies score big against rage-a-holic Islam when you compare them to the Europeans who were dumb enough to invite their mass immigration. Wacky Angela Merkel still does. Talk about an ongoing death wish!
    The Islamic death cult has found its perfect partner in the current European death wish.

    • 回复: @Avery
  215. Clyde 说:
    @joef

    As you say, how they engage the Islamics is not a matter of aimless theorizing but a matter of survival. America and even Europe can still afford its stupid liberal theoreticians while Israel has never has been able to. Note too the high birthrates in Israel and the low ones in Western Europe. High birthrates means your people intend to survive. Low ones means your young people live in a society still wealthy enough to subsidize their tattoos, half shaved heads, aimless university studies and indoor video gaming.

  216. Mark Furman made a comment the other night that maybe even Al Sharpton could understand. Ok, scratch that. For the logically inclined and to paraphrase, he mentioned that patrol cops are at the mercy of their radios. Wherever they are called to, they go.

    They get a load of calls to the hood.

    From hood citizens.

  217. @HBD Guy

    Most urban Blacks have hitched their wagon to the federal government and its illicit diversity policies for their livelihood, not to the free market.

    All diversity victim cult people have a similar federal government dependent ideology.

    妇女因男性的压迫而有权
    犹太人因外邦人的压迫而有权
    同性恋者因直率的压迫而有权
    穆斯林因基督徒的压迫而有权
    残障人士因健康的压迫而有权享有
    非洲黑人因白人压迫而应得权利
    拉丁裔因Gringo的压迫而享有权利
    西班牙裔人因格林戈镇压而应得权利
    军人由于民兵的压迫而有权
    两党系统受抚养人因独立压迫而有权
    原住民有权因脸色苍白而受压迫
    亚洲人因西方的压迫而有权
    由于地方政府的压迫,国家社会主义者有权
    克洛尼资本家因诚实的商人压迫而有权
    犹太复国主义者之所以有权,是因为反法西斯主义的压迫

  218. Dissident 说:
    @WorkingClass

    How the numbers compare, respectively and proportionately, of criminal cops vs. violently criminal blacks?

  219. Avery 说:
    @Clyde

    Once more: Izzies can do whatever they want as long as it does not involve America and/or the American taxpayers. Youse score big against rage-a-holic Islam? great: but keep doing it on your own. US can take care of itself. The whole of Middle East can go down in flames, and it won’t affect US one bit.

    • 回复: @Clyde
  220. Clyde 说:
    @Avery

    How many billions a year do you think the USA has been spending since at least 1972 to have the US Navy patrol the sea lanes of the Middle East to make sure that Saudi, Kuwaiti and other Arab oil gets through to Europe and the US. Japan too.
    Lets face it, you are a phony, a one dimensional anti-Semite who only squeaks and squawks about what the Jews get from America. The Jews of Israel in this case. Check out your past posts and go see if they are all bitching about the Jews. I have not looked by the way.
    You are right about one thing. The fracking revolution makes us less dependent on Mid East oil but when that revolution runs its course….. But Europe is still dependent on Iranian and Saudi oil and we like to make sure it stays this way for world stability. This costs billions each year, spent on US Navy operations over there.

  221. Avery 说:

    {Lets face it, you are a phony, a one dimensional anti-Semite who only squeaks and squawks about what the Jews get from America. The Jews of Israel in this case. }

    The charge of anti-Semitism flung carelessly by desperate, delusional Israel-firsters has lost its bite and its meaning, since it has been used in desperation to cover Israeli malfeasance and treachery so often and for so long.
    Your post is Exhibit A: unable to argue facts, in desperation you throw out the “anti-Semite” charge.
    I don’t care if you think I am an anti-Semite.
    I know who and what I am.

    As for you: you are a phony, one dimensional anti-American, anti-Christian parasite who only squeaks and squawks for more American taxpayers handouts for Israel.


    {Check out your past posts and go see if they are all bitching about the Jews. I have not looked by the way.}

    I bitch about a lot of things that affect America and American taxpayers.
    And you should check out my past posts re Jews: you’ll be surprised.
    I don’t conflate Jews with the State of Israel and treacherous Israeli (Jewish) leaders.

    • 回复: @Clyde
  222. Clyde 说:
    @Avery

    Why do you bother denying you are anti-Semite. The shoe fits so wear it. What do you care? And being an anti-Semite does not mean you can’t be a good guy in other areas. It is not the total definition of who you are. This is what libs try to do, to define someone just by one aspect of what he does. Just so long as you are not a MuzzSymp you are probably OK.

    • 回复: @Avery
  223. Corvinus 说:
    @res

    “It’s important to make a distinction between what appears to be proven by the data (a much higher standard) versus what appears to be suggested by the data. Conversely, absence of a high standard of proof of an assertion does not imply the assertion is false or the opposite is true (as in many “race denier” arguments).”

    是的。

    “As an example, at this point I think a genetic component to IQ can be considered proven (as well as anything ever is in behavioral genetics). However, a genetic component to racial differences in IQ is at most suggested by current data (e.g. IQ SNP frequency differences).”

    是的。

    “Having said all that though I think the ‘acolytes of “race realism” and “race = genetics”’ are probably closer to the truth than the race deniers of the Narrative (the neat thing is with advances in genomics we might actually get real answers here, even if only by accident).”

    But think what that “truth” has been used for in the past. Eugenics. Group superiority. Enslavement.

    “I also think the retort of “we don’t have enough data” coming from people who actively prevent such research being done is profoundly hypocritical.”

    或许是吧。

    “Related to this is the difference between a strawman (e.g. a position no one would argue) and my best assessment of your position. Are you explicitly denying that you saw Watson’s backtracking as a positive? If so, how would you characterize it?”

    I would characterize it as trying to salvage his career and dignity in light of extreme sensitivity–right or wrong, fair or unfair–regarding a hot button topic. Should he have been “blackballed”? No.

    To me, racism and sexism, hell, any “isms”, have been co-opted by the left and the right with equal ferocity to promote their own agenda. Racism is NOT when a white person points out that there are high crime rates in black neighborhoods, because that is a statistical fact. However, I want to know more WHY there are high crime rates in black neighborhoods, and “race realists” are super quick to point out it’s ENTIRELY due to genetics. That is B.S. in my book.

    Let’s take a page from MLK–judge a person by the content of their character. Unfortunately, today’s Coalition of the Fringe Right and the Coalition of the Fringe Left work feverishly to dictate the narrative.

    • 回复: @res
  224. res 说:
    @Corvinus

    But think what that “truth” has been used for in the past. Eugenics. Group superiority. Enslavement.

    Yes, but I think a similar (perhaps even longer/worse) list applies to “falsehood”. I also think for many of the cases where “truth” led to problems it would be more accurate to say it provided an excuse. If on average whites have a higher IQ than blacks that is not a (IMHO valid) justification for slavery (should I be the slave of a neighbor with a higher IQ? should a neighbor with a lower IQ be my slave?).

    I would characterize it as trying to salvage his career and dignity in light of extreme sensitivity–right or wrong, fair or unfair–regarding a hot button topic. Should he have been “blackballed”? No.

    同意。

    To me, racism and sexism, hell, any “isms”, have been co-opted by the left and the right with equal ferocity to promote their own agenda. Racism is NOT when a white person points out that there are high crime rates in black neighborhoods, because that is a statistical fact. However, I want to know more WHY there are high crime rates in black neighborhoods, and “race realists” are super quick to point out it’s ENTIRELY due to genetics. That is B.S. in my book.

    Agreed that the idea it is ENTIRELY due to genetics is BS. I don’t think many people actually believe that, and the ones that do mostly recognize there are a host of mediating variables (poverty, single parent households, poor treatment by others, etc.) but believe them all caused at root by genetics (perhaps I am being too charitable, but I have sympathy given the hostility that meets ANY mention of genetics in this context). I share your WHY curiosity, but I worry more about WHAT can we do about it? That simultaneously inspires some sympathy with those who deny the genetic effects (because we can’t do anything about the genetics of those already born and I think that motivates many “deniers”) while also inspiring frustration and anger (because we can’t address the problems effectively if we are unwilling to see the underlying causes realistically, this also applies to my take on BLM and the police). I am further frustrated that what seems the most obvious thing to do (modify various cultural behaviors, in many ways things are worse now than in the past IMHO) is categorically rejected (patronizing, “Uncle Tom”, “acting white”, etc.) by the black community.

    I think it might help for us when criticizing the entirely one or the other crew to remember to emphasize that the alternative is not the opposite. Rather, it is a view which recognizes the importance of both genetic and environmental effects. This usually becomes clear in a civil, nuanced discussion, but it is far too easy for one side to just say “wrong” and the other to interpret it as “they believe the opposite–what an idiot”.

    Let’s take a page from MLK–judge a person by the content of their character.

    If only we all could. That said, I think a little realism about all of us having to make decisions with imperfect information would help. Assuming stereotypes indicate the reality for any given individual is clearly wrong, but ignoring stereotypes (including but going well beyond race) when assessing how to initially approach unknown people is also IMHO wrong (even if it is required to avoid being labelled racist, sexist, heightist, weightist, ageist, etc.). There is also room for a great deal of nuance. Hopefully even the “racists” among us (including myself based on my previous sentence, though I wonder what black friends of mine over the years would make of that characterization) can recognize that encountering a group of professorial looking blacks talking quietly together is very different from encountering a group of “youths” of threatening demeanor spreading out to surround someone (personal experience of the latter, it ended as the screaming voice in my head thought it might).

  225. Avery 说:
    @Clyde

    {Why do you bother denying you are anti-Semite. The shoe fits so wear it. What do you care?}

    Why do you bother denying you are an anti-American, anti-Christian parasite?
    Wear the “badge” proudly.
    And keep mooching for handouts from American taxpayers: it is quite becoming.

  226. Dissident 说:
    @boogerbently

    As long as the likes of Farrakahn, Black Panthers, Sharpton, Obama, can say “F[—] the police”,
    but WE can’t even use the word “black” in a sentence, the “discussion” hasn’t really even started.

    Sharpton is shown nothing but honor and respect by the President and the Mayor of New York City. Sharpton spoke to standing ovations at the 2004 Democrat National Convention. Sharpton has a show on a major media outlet (MSNBC), with major mainstream sponsors– the same MSNBC that fired Patrick J. Buchanan.

    Obama was endorsed by Farrakahn. Obama was close for years with an anti-white, black supremacist, hate-spewing “Reverend” (Jeremiah Wright).

    名单还在继续……

    But no “respectable” figure would dare cite John Derbyshire or Steve Sailer (except, perhaps, to denounce them).

    Such a skewed picture it is surreal.

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