这一切都在《高等教育黑人杂志》中。请参阅史蒂夫的博客。在 SAT 数学 0.7 分或以上的学生中，黑人占 750%。可以肯定的是，大多数数学博士。 SAT 数学成绩达到 750 分或以上。

http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

我认为德比郡等人忽略了像哈蒙这样的人的产出的关键点。

It isn’t intended to be read critically; nor is it likely to stand up to such criticism.

Rather, it is produced to confirm preferences, to allow people to continue to believe that their wishful thinking has a rational foundation. All parents are wise and loving, our politicians are selflessly working for the common good, and if there aren’t many black mathematicians, it’s because somehow they’re not being given a fair shake. No need for any unpleasant suspicions or unsettling doubts. Mommy loves you.

You and Steve’s writing style is sometimes so hard to tell apart.

拥有博士学位的父母有助于获得数学成绩，而黑人孩子与这样的父母同住的可能性不到白人孩子的一半。

“少于一半。”那里有有趣的“人物”。我们是否应该相信这个比例是 40% 或 45%？

碰巧的是，这里的机制是什么？它是如何工作的？

事实上，只有不到一半的黑人孩子与父母住在一起，或者知道他们的父亲是谁，但为什么要挑剔呢？真正的原因是罗斯福的红线。

只是为了逗弄一下。 也许连续几个小时、甚至可能连续几天解决数学问题对有色人种来说不会或很少有吸引力。 这会让他成为一个脾气暴躁、厌世、干巴巴的人，就像约翰·德比郡一样。 赫尔曼·凯恩也有时间从事政治生涯。 脾气暴躁、厌世的干黑人很难找到。

“New York Times … used to be a very good newspaper. I remember my first encounters with it …”

And I mine: I was a university fresher at the time. “Duller than Le Monde” was my verdict.

It used to be a very good newspaper.

没了.

You used to have lower standards, is all.

Correct. The NYT has always been a shit rag.

不，确实更好。左翼自由主义，令人讨厌，但报告中的拼写错误和彻底的偏见是不能容忍的，或者至少是公然的。现在语法错误的数量简直令人震惊。

I’m limited to reading 5 stories a month without paying. I rarely exceed that number.

唔。 我会说实质上可能占 50%，但风格上只有 5% 左右。

塞勒/德比郡
简洁/冗长
分离/自我参照
歪/铅

两人都喜欢消除神话。 但塞勒先生似乎对种族以外的问题真正感到好奇，而德比郡先生则努力想出一些东西来满足那些不能经常听到自己比黑人更好的人。

真正的原因是罗斯福的红线。

Hey, getting more people to hate FDR – that can’t be a bad thing. (Whether he had squat-all to do with making bank loans is quite another story….)

IMO, as far as style, Steve Sailer can be more snarkily LOL-sarcastic than John Derbyshire. However, Mr. Derbyshire’s writing all flows together and is just more well thought-out and organized. Steve Sailer writes great medium-length articles in Takimag, but, for whatever reason (word limit?) he doesn’t usually have a good conclusion paragraph or two. His articles often end abruptly.

Regarding the post here itself:

Amy Harmon purports to be the NY Times writer that covers the “intersection of 科学 和 社会. She’s not a scientist and she doesn’t live in society (most of us don’t count NY City as part of decent society). Therefore, she knows not of what she writes.

I well remember, with a few friends that switched from engineering/science to the major as exceptions, that Journalism majors were not the brightest people in college. That school was just above the bottom, “General Studies” (for the football players), in difficulty of the fields of study. I think journalism was a more honest field when it was practiced by people called “reporters”.

I don’t have any memory of EVER taking the NY Times seriously, but I didn’t feel the need to buy a 2″ stack of paper on Sunday mornings to waste the whole day, when there were certainly better things to do… like, say, now here on the internet! (OK, I’m headed outside to get work done, as soon as I write a Peak Stupidity post and it gets a little warmer.)

“In her February 20th article, Ms. Harmon gives the number of black research mathematicians as thirteen—nationwide—out of a total of eighteen hundred i.e. 0.7 percent. With blacks at thirteen percent of the population, that is indeed a striking under-representation.”

评论者 utu（在 Sailer 帖子上）给出了以下数字：

普渡数学系教师人数

中国33
27 American（白色）
6德国
3 美国人（犹太人）
3南亚
3罗马尼亚
3 南美洲/西班牙
2美式（黑色）
2匈牙利
2意大利
法国1
1波兰
1保加利亚
1亚美尼亚
1伊朗
1韩国
1日本

Assuming those numbers are roughly correct, only about a third (31 out of 91) of Purdue math profs are white or black Americans. Probably the the situation is not so different at other research universities. So, the black percentage among these research mathematicians shouldn’t be compared to the black percentage of the population to assess black under-representation. White Americans are also under-represented among these research mathematicians relative to their percentage of the American population.

此外，卡米拉·本博 (Camilla Benbow) 还获得了关于在万分之一的聪明水平下测试的孩子与在百分之一的聪明水平上进行测试的孩子会发生什么情况的数据。 超级聪明的孩子获得 STEM 博士学位和成为成功研究人员的几率要高得多。 几乎可以肯定，超级聪明的孩子中黑人的比例远低于相当聪明的孩子中黑人的比例。

I’m not sure the Times was ever good. In the 70s, it was a CIA leak sheet, and a number of its top reporters were actually CIA assets. It’s always been terrible on Israel. Back in the day, the best things about the Times were the real estate ads and Red Smith. Everything else was straight garbage.

Now the number of grammatical errors simply astounds.

I don’t care about the grammatical errors….I talking about the god damn bullshit.

How many books/novels has Sailer written? I like Sailer a great deal, but Derbyshire’s style is lovely and his scope is vast. His understanding of human nature is spot-on, and his intelligence, logic, and insight, nonpareil.

亚历山大·冯·洪堡比你聪明得多，他认为科学种族主义是可悲、可笑和卑鄙的。

亚历山大·冯·洪堡比你聪明得多，他认为科学种族主义是可悲、可笑和卑鄙的。

您有对此的引用或引用吗？

你认为现实是可悲、可笑、卑鄙的吗？对我来说，现实看起来非常种族主义。

Somewhat OT, but I’ve wondered lately if our elites have promoted this “Green New Deal” nonsense, not just because of their ignorance of thermodynamics, but also because they see the need to dismantle and dumb down the nation’s energy system in preparation for their plan to replace the white population. They understand on some level that the browning of the United States will deplete the smart fraction needed to run the system we have now.

Nuclear power, especially, makes a big cognitive demand, and the U.S. won’t have enough smart people to maintain and operate nuclear power plants competently it when the population turns over demographically in another generation or two and we become a nation of brown dumbasses best suited for stoop labor.

Humboldt died in 1859, so he missed out on Darwin’s theory of evolution, the invention of modern statistics and the study of intelligence (both pioneered by Darwin’s cousin Francis Galton), and the discovery of the mechanism of heredity. What we have learned since Humboldt’s time has revolutionized our understanding of human biodiversity beyond Humboldt’s comprehension.

Mr. Derbyshire’s writing all flows together and is just more well thought-out and organized

I agree, and would say Derbyshire’s writing is another example of the superiority of British rhetoric over American. As an American with no ties to Britain, I would have to admit this.

Assign a Briton and an American, who have the same ideas and same IQ, to write an x-word article about y topic in z time and the Briton will simply tend to say it better, nicer, more aesthetically.

It is not some mystery why Americans attribute +10 or +15 IQ points to (most forms of) a British accent. It is the latter’s way with words, their cultural tradition of, and emphasis on, strong rhetoric. We White Americans of Christian origin are a straightforward, plain-speaking people.

无限聪明，但经验却少了几个世纪。

Not only do most people not understand tails of distributions, but the average person is really quite resistant to the idea that different groups might have different distributions, different averages and so forth. But if you stop even for a second to think about it, it would be quite amazing if different groups of people had the same distribution of characteristics and the same averages. If individual people differ, then why should any two groups of people be the same? It would be extraordinary if they were.

我认为当新闻业由被称为“记者”的人从事时，新闻业是一个更加诚实的领域。

What, you mean academic institutions still call it journalism? I thought by now it would be “public information dissemination studies.”

Harmon’s version can only be depicted in a Hollywood movie, such as the one celebrating the futuristic spear throwers of Wakanda ( Wauconda, IL ) and Atlanta. Black children in the US are predominately wards of the Leftist Ruling Class’ Welfare State because of the crude ghetto culture and low IQ.

这是一个有点话题，但我读到男性获得 12 分或更高分数的可能性是男性的 700 倍
SAT 数学部分的成绩高于女性。然而，菲尔兹奖获得者几年后
前伊朗女子40岁去世，哈佛拉里·萨默斯遭严厉批评
当他在一场关于科学数量较少的讲座上说了类似的话时
女性中的专业。

Criticized hell, he was ousted as President of the University, after he went so far as to stupidly apologize. One woman professor said she almost fainted straight away after hearing Mr. Summers’ scarily-biased speech. I think it’s high time for those of us in academia to all go around carrying smelling salts for these occasions, in addition to the usual pepper spray and 9 mm CCW on some of our more vibrant campi.

塞勒/德比郡
将自己描述为“愉快”/将自己描述为“脾气暴躁”
“公民主义者”/“持不同政见的权利”

两者都有丰富的背景知识，但

赛勒对流行文化、非裔美国人、新闻业、新奇事物更感兴趣
德比郡对“死去的白人男性”、中国、文学、（政治）哲学更感兴趣

塞勒认为他最大的优势是他的“模式识别”——依赖于敏锐的观察力、对琐事的良好记忆力、高智商、思想开放、不关心潜在的强烈反对。

德比郡似乎更感兴趣的是明确捍卫某种政治哲学（“持不同政见的权利”）和相关政策（“特朗普，不要签署移民法案！”）。塞勒似乎不愿意过多地认同自己是“右翼”，他更喜欢一次性的观察和建议，而不是捍卫更广泛的哲学。正如其他人指出的那样，他经常在论文中留下没有结论的内容。也许他觉得这种风格扩大了他写作的吸引力，他很可能是对的。

同意。

The difference in political speech-making is painful. It’s not that British pols are marvelous human beings, it’s just that they can actually speak. Imagine Prime Minister’s Question Time in this country. Ouch.

My memory may be slightly at fault here, but I read The Wheezing Old Grey Yenta regularly all through the ’80s and it seemed to me they could not get through a single issue without at least 6 references to/or maudlin articles about Kristallnacht. I wonder if it is even worse than that now.

亚历山大·冯·洪堡是否有机会在底特律、巴尔的摩或密苏里州弗格森等地度过美好时光？

他们缺乏任何遗传学证据来解释白人和黑人美国人平均智商得分之间的差距，他们认为这是他们信仰的基础。

And woe to the researcher who actually does seek out the genetic evidence. Amy Harmon will be at the front of the pitchforks, ready to grab and defenestrate him.

Sailer has only written one book that I’m aware of, it was called “America’s Half Blood Prince” about a former American president.

He has talked of publishing a Best of Steve Sailer book. I don’t know why this hasn’t happened. It would be a good way to supplement his donation drives.

大体正确。我认为 Z-Man 说得对。像哈蒙女士那样的文章是关于不惜一切代价将道德强加于社会的。

https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=16618

Derb 就像 Sailer，一个 CivNat。他们拒绝拒绝左派的道德。当然，他们嘲笑左派的愚蠢，希望他们的事实和逻辑能够获胜。但通过讨论，他们承认事情就是这样。事实是，在欺凌者背后窃笑永远不会阻止欺凌者。

你要么接受他，要么寻找另一个游乐场。塞勒和德布都拒绝这样做。我爱他们，但他们拒绝接受这样的事实：我们不会通过辩论来解决这个问题，也不会通过投票来解决这个问题。

是时候停止与对方争论了。是时候反击了，或者开始建立我们自己的独立社区，让道德不再受到影响。

当约翰·德比郡（John Derbyshire）远离种族和移民问题时，他的著作读起来既有趣又富有启发性。 然而最近，他似乎只写了这些。 如果似乎是那些主题，我将停止阅读他的作品。 如果约翰环顾四周，发现美国所有的数学家都是亚洲人，他会感到困扰吗？ 也许有一半亚洲人。 当约翰和我离开这个凡人的地方时，这似乎就是将会发生的事情。

I recall decades ago one of those Popular Science type magazines ran a how-to story on making one of these in your garage. Impressive as a project for the local school science fair, but I think it involved high voltage, and science fairs these days have probably become very cautious about things that might burn, bang or zap, and the occasional neutron or gamma ray that is emitted freaks people out. I would imagine that entries today lean more toward subjects like the effects of climate change on non-binary gender indigenous peoples in Asia-Pacific.

Yeah, better than Ambien. Usually only read The Gray Hag for the editorials, back when they had decent chaps on the OpEd section (Safire, Reston etc.). Haven’t bothered to buy the damn thing in over twenty years. It always tilted left but guys like Reston, Rosie (A.M. Rosenthal) etal would at least try to be fair. Now? Fuggedaboudit! Just another arm (along with the WaPo) of the demokrat party propaganda machine.

I worked in London for a couple of years in the 1980s. I remarked to an English colleague that I thought that British political debate was of a much higher caliber than American. My colleague, who had taught in the US and was here quite often, said that he thought it was just the opposite. I still think that I was right, but his disagreement does make me think. Perhaps familiarity-breeds-contempt is a factor.

I don’t know about worse, but the go-to reference these days is Emmett Till, not Kristallnacht.

Ol’ obwandiyag makes Amy Harmon look like Demosthenes, Aristotle and Newton all rolled into one.

I believe it was SPY Magazine who suggested, back in the 80s, that a more fitting name for the NY Times would be “Holocaust Update”.

Forget which wag it was who quipped, “The NYT doesn’t have a funnies page… but it /does/ have Abe Rosenthal.”

It’s been Unforgiveable horsesh!t ever since I was a lad.

It’s been a while, Mr. Smith. Maybe it is already for all I know – PIDS 101: The Government as the source of All News, 3 credits + 1 credit lab (student must supply own kneepads).

I compared the writing styles earlier, CoaSC. On their material, I agree that Mr. Sailer doesn’t seem to think that America’s problems can’t be reversed with just a little bit better understanding by the ctrl-left. Mr. Derbyshire, however, did write 我们完了 相反。

What I think is that both of these writers had never really understood the role of Big Gov’t/Socialism as the major cause of our downfall, Mr. Derbyshire because he’s still British in some ways, and Mr. Sailer because he doesn’t put much thought into that stuff. I also think both guys are great reading and good people, but one minor thing about Steve Sailer that irks me is his awe for Hollywood people. Yeah, he lives in Los Angeles, but c’mon!

最后，他们似乎都与《纽约时报》有这种奇怪的爱/恨关系，但我认为精英们得到的食物对我们来说很重要，所以这只是反对派研究。我们其他人最好忽略《纽约时报》等人的报道，因为它们不仅浪费时间，而且是导致高血压的不必要原因。

Yes, nuclear power requires pre-replacement types. But the Green New Deal’s elimination of air travel is also not just for climate reasons. A big reason is who will be able to pilot the planes and work the air traffic control.

One of the smartest math students I have met is black. I told him he should try to get into Harvard but he didn’t seem interested. He got a good job doing something with computer networks. The thing is, few blacks are 100% black, so even if black genes are bad at math there should be some white math genes sneaking through. I think sociological factors play a larger role than JD does. Also, in today’s money-mad society someone who is good at math will likely skip pure math in favor of investment banking or some other specialty that pays well. Probably feudalism is a better environment when it comes to nurturing mathematicians.

Maybe so, but the go-to reference will be decided on by the same crowd.

True about the Derb. A man who wrote an entire book on the fact that we’re doomed due to our immigration policies and other issues knows the score. That said, Derb hasn’t followed his own logic and moved on to what’s next.

That’s my issue with Steve and Derb. Either they think that we can debate our way out of this (Steve), in which case they’re delusional, or they know that the old world (the white world) that we once knew is terminally ill (Derb) but refuse to think and write about what whites can do to survive and even flourish in the world that’s coming, in which case they’re either lazy or cowards (not wanting to lose what small place they retain among public intellectuals).

Either way, I am a rapidly losing respect for two guys that I have greatly respected for years.

The best that I can hope is that Steve and Derb very much understand the situation but see themselves as a soft landing ground for normie whites who are new to all of this. Someone needs to gently explain to them that their world is not as it seems and, indeed, is rapidly crumbling around them. It takes time. (Trust me, I know because I was one of them.) And it’s an easier pill to swallow with Steve and Derb’s wit.

You may be right about feudalism being a better environment for fostering mathematicians dedicated purely to math and not Wall Street wizardry, but you’re laughably wrong about everything else that you wrote.

First, environment at best accounts for 50% of intelligence and likely far more, probably closer to 80% by the time that we’re adults. Indeed, in first world countries where food and shelter aren’t an issue, environment becomes even less important. So, no, American blacks aren’t being held back by their environment, at least not by more one or two IQ points, i.e. not enough to move the needle. (Also, who do you think creates that environment? Yeah, other blacks.)

Second, American blacks are on average 85% African, which, of course, is why they’re not quite as low IQ as their full African cousins. Not sure your point here. I guess that you’re saying that some half-blacks have a shot at being PhD-level mathematicians if they get lucky enough to have a lot of very smart white genes. Well, yeah.

Related, are you saying that there would be more black PhDs in math if not for the temptation of more money on Wall Street or other endevors? Two issues here. First, the same can be said for whites and Asians, so it’s a wash.

Second, remember the numbers (we are talking about math), the numbers of blacks scoring a 750 or above in math – what you need to have a shot at being a PhD in math – are tiny and correspond with the number of black mathematicians. So, no, there’s not some pool of black math geniuses that are being sucked into other fields.

Btw, congrats on having such a smart black friend. Maybe he can explain what “on average” or “outlier” mean.

http://chalkdustmagazine.com/black-mathematician-month/kind-problems-black-mathematicians-wish-didnt-need-solving/

哦哦

I guess that you’re saying that some half-blacks have a shot at being PhD-level mathematicians if they get lucky enough to have a lot of very smart white genes. Well, yeah.

Gotta love those Mulattoooooeez!

http://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/PEEPS/farley_jonathan.html

For people who care about references (and truth), here is a relevant paper: Alexander Von Humboldt on Slavery in America
https://www.jstor.org/stable/40402500
Full text available on libgen.

This looks like a pretty good take on Humboldt’s views (concluding statement of the paper):

Finally, we should not forget that it was Alexander von Humboldt who
wrote in his Kosmos:

In maintaining the unity of the human race we also reject the disagreeable assumption of superior and inferior peoples. Some peoples are more pliable, more highly educated and ennobled by intellectual culture, but there are no races which are more noble than others. All are equally entitled to freedom: to freedom which in the state of nature belongs to the individual and which in civilization belongs as a right to the entire citizenry through political institutions.34

Seems much more like an anti-slavery statement than commentary on group differences.

Feel free to provide your own references, obwandiyag.

见我的评论
https://www.unz.com/jthompson/tilting-at-sex-differences/#comment-2236923
Based on this paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289610000346

从我的评论来看：

桶_____V 700 名男性__V 700 名女性__M 700 名男性__M 700 名女性
1991-1995_____7___________9__________271_________70
2006-2010____117_________134_________628_________164
...
在 5 年中，没有哪个性别组在任一分项测试中获得 100 分的人数超过 800 人。 1981-1985 年正好有 0 800 个。 1981-1995 年，语言 0 分恰好为 800 分，女性数学 0 分为 800 分，男性数学 8 分为 800 分。

所以实际比率更像是 4 倍。

重新审视原始论文，看起来有人在重复这里的 13/13.5 数字。

从1981年到1985年，≥500、≥600和≥700水平的男女比例分别为2.61比1、5.82比1和13.5比1，从而重复了以前的发现（Benbow＆Stanley，1980，1983；分别为 2.1 比 1、4.1 比 1 和 13 比 1）。从1986年至今，男女比例在多个层面、多个时期都有下降。从图 1 中可以看出，SAT-M 成绩≥700 分（前 0.01%）的学生比例在 1981-1985 年之后立即开始下降，但在过去二十年中一直保持相对稳定，大约为 4 比 1 ，最近一段时间（2006-2010）的比率为 3.83 比 1。因此，我们确认了下降，尽管没有达到 Stanley 给出的和研究文献中普遍引用的水平。 800-6.58 年 SAT-M 满分考生（1 名）中，这一比例为 2006 比 2010，这表明即使在最右尾，男女比例现在也远低于 13 比 1。

I think Wai et al. may have made a mistake here and that Benbow & Stanley 13 number was for the SMPY (13 year olds, so a much higher threshold, with a correspondingly higher M/F ratio), but I can’t find the right reference to be sure. But see the caption of Figure 1 which indicates how they got their 13.5 number for 1981-1985:

类似于 SAT-M 500（前 0.5%）和 700（前 0.01%）的智力水平基准是根据 SAT-M 总体平均值和标准差，使用分布内 z 分数近似值计算的。

Chased down a reference. The 13 number was for the SMPY as I thought: https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/smpy/2000-benbow.pdf

比例为 2:1 青少年 SAT-M 分数至少为 500 分，分数至少为 4 分的学生为 1:600，分数至少为 13 分的学生为 1:700。

但 13.5 这个数字似乎是合法的。所以你可以为你的 12 倍数字做一个薄弱的理由。 4x 看起来是一个更好的估计。

This is a good reference for both sex and race differences on the pre-1995 SAT: https://www.ets.org/Media/Research/pdf/RR-02-04-Dorans.pdf
More about this paper at https://www.unz.com/jthompson/tilting-at-sex-differences/#comment-2229909

So what does Maryam Mirzakhani’s Fields Medal make the overall M/F ratio there? 67:1 by my quick count (may be off a few). Seems consistent with the other numbers here.

Btw, congrats on having such a smart black friend. Maybe he can explain what “on average” or “outlier” mean.

LOL！

他们拒绝拒绝左派的道德

.

Since when does a lust for absolute power constitute a “morality”?

Morality is found mostly on the right. There are moralists in the center, but that’s where the amoral concentrate, too (e.g. publicly-funded stadia, tax abatements).

但权力是唯一激励左派的东西。

The purpose of a person like Amy Harmon is to push a narrative akin to a religion while making the lily good whites who read the Times feel intellectually (and morally) superior in the process. The fact that Harmon is a laughing stock among those with actual understanding of the subject is not important. The fact that she keeps wealthy, influential people of middling intellect on the right side of history is what matters.

Thanks for confirming what I said while not even knowing your doing it, genius.

Larry Summers said that catholics make bad bankers. Larry Summers is an idiot. All university presidents are idiots. But Larry Summers is idioter than others. I would fire him just for the way he looks–like a wombat.

I can’t believe you idiots, with all your graphs and statistical mumbo-jumbo, are confusing SATs, which are supposed to measure cumulative knowledge, with IQ tests, which are supposed to measure innate intelligence. The stupidest among you are the ones who post the most statistics. Or should I say “statistics.”

“confusing SATs, which are supposed to measure cumulative knowledge, with IQ tests”

There’s a correlation between the two; high SAT scores usually indicate high IQ scores. It’s not one-to-one, but it’s significant nonetheless. And since more people are familiar with SATs, and we can see group breakdown by year, it’s a useful measure. Further, SATs don’t necessarily measure “cumulative knowledge”. That’s the ACT. The Bell Curve explains that the highest SAT score a student can reasonably expect generally increases in ~logarithmic fashion (slowly towards some value) with study time, so innate genetic potential plays a role. There are exceptions, of course, but the law of large numbers shows that these exceptions will be smoothed out over a large sample size. The mean of a large group is what’s important here, not whether or not there is a rare genius who simply cannot take a standardized test for the life of him due to crippling social anxiety or PTSD.

“The stupidest among you are the ones who post the most statistics.”

您对这个主题的理解似乎相当有限，正如您相当无知的评论所证明的那样。

We get that you don’t understand statistics. No need to confirm that. Any real arguments or do you only have hot air?

I may have written this before to you, CoaSC, but this is not a prepper site (I’ve read flat-out Mao-sack-hanging Commies on here, but never preppers!) These two excellent writers can do a great service in opening people’s eyes, and they both have a fair amount of courage and integrity to have avoided, or been purged by, the mainstream Lyin’ Press.

Although often the prepper/survivalist writing gets into the best rocket stoves, how to modify a carburetor to run the generator on natural gas. best ways to store veggies … etc… – very good stuff mind you – they often do have commenters who try to help each other realize the best bet for a course of action to best ride out the shit-storm coming our way. It is VERY difficult for me to decide whether this country is worth fighting (in some fashion) for. There is no clear vision of how things will go down, so that impedes my decision-making.

Unfortunately, as Geddy Lee sang, “如果你选择不做决定，你仍然已经做出了选择。”:

Derbyshire leaves out two of the most important points: 1) NY Times is a Jewish controlled propaganda of the Deep State. 2) Harmon (I think) is Jewish too. This is a 24 hour hateorama against all whites, white science and Western Civilization. What are you missing Derb?

If you read Harmon carefully you will find she appears mentally ill and uses the same cultural meme in all her work. She doesn’t understand basic science and basically uses other cultural communists as her sources. She has no understanding of STEM majors at the university level and with her magic belief system that the reason for blacks not in enough position is because everything is white privilege. Yet, I wonder what she would say about Jews controlling entire departments in the social and humanities areas? Is that Jewish privilege? Oh, I forgot that doesn’t apply to them including the fact that in the Ivy Leagues over 75% of presidents, dean, and higher ups are…..Jewish. Blacks should aim not for STEM degrees because they really don’t pay much as compared to these administrative jobs which require bullshit and mickey mouse degrees.

This will never end until they equalize our society…whatever that means. There is one basic rule about academia: You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit. You can give them fake degree, fake positions but that won’t make them any smarter!

It was Jihad against elements and competition, That made faster development of Eurasians in comparison to African population. To catch up Africans would need a millennia to catch up and it would be possible under experience of the same conditions. Knowledge of Blacks is only superficial. It is as we say monkey see monkey do. After all even animals have some memory capability. To have an innovative logical brain functions black will never achieve.

The fact that she keeps wealthy, influential people of middling intellect on the right side of history is what matters.

Or on the right side of hysterectomy.

Who’s his Web designer? What’s the significance of the pee stains? Is he a Who fan?

They shoot horses, don’t they

Priceless, Brilliant.

“…Btw, congrats on having such a smart black friend. Maybe he can explain what “on average” or “outlier” mean…”

Or perhaps that “black” friend was only a “one drop” Black ?

Achmed, do you have any reading recommendations to supplement the knowledge I’ve gained from Sailer and Derb in a more practical way? I’d be most obliged by your thoughts.

Perhaps you’ve dealt with the subject of the world that’s coming on your own blog?

“Alexander von Humboldt, who was infinitely smarter than you, thought that scientific racism was pathetic and ludicrous and vile.”

Yeah, but Isaac Newton, who was infinitely smarter than me – and probably everyone else who has ever lived – thought it made sense to spend much of his time on alchemy and the occult.

如果 Roseanne Barr 使用这块抹布而不是 Ambien，她可能仍然拥有自己的节目……。

You don’t really think that do you?

两者都发挥着宝贵的作用，可以驳斥错误的论点和不诚实的理论。

Why do you think it would bother him if half the academic mathematicians in the US were Asian? Or if, as well 20 per cent were black? Of course he – and you – would rationally have to conclude that something very strange had happened to America, and that it might not be good.

Maybe your black mathematician can be like Jack’s smart black buddy and explain what “average,” “standard deviation” and “outlier” mean to you.

I know a woman who’s 6’1. In your mind, I guess that proves that women are the same height as men on average.

Agreed that I was a bit harsh. Derb and Steve have fought the good fight for decades – using their own names – giving up much in terms of career and money. They also do God’s work opening the eyes of normies and helping them cross the great divide to our side.

Btw, not sure why you think I’m some prepper type. I have no clue what the future holds, but I’d suspect that it’s not some Balkans-like civil war (although that’s no longer completely unthinkable, just extremely unlikely) or Mad Max scenario. I’m just arguing that we’re moving past the point where debate matters. AOC and the upcoming POC majority simply won’t care.

My argument is that the very small number of European Americans who understand what’s happening need to start getting to the grunt work of building our own community within the larger society that’s coming. We need our own business associations, community groups, schools (or, at least, programs for our children to learn about their heritage), political organizations, even ethnic churches, etc.

Talk of civil war and fighting on the street is childish. We need to build. It’s not glamorous or glorious, but it’s what needs to be done. That’s not prepper stuff. Preppers are living in a fantasy world.

My issue with Steve and Derb is that they don’t ever – ever – bring up what whites should be DOING. They just mock the other side using facts and logic hoping it will persuade them. It won’t. And even if Steve and Derb are doing this for the benefit of newbies, they should occassionally throw in some advice for what to do next.

塞勒对流行文化、非裔美国人更感兴趣

就像看着油漆变干一样，不是吗？

Chris, I used to visit the survivalist sites, and even Zerohedge used to have some articles, but moreso, very good commenters, that would discuss these worries and the making of concrete plans based on how each thought things will go down. You can find these type of sites, but I’d rather not suggest any, as it’s been a while and websites often morph. (I do remember survivalblog – by a guy named Wesley Raules(?), and the SHTFplan, written by a guy who experienced the misery in Bosnia, but wrote in bad English – on purpose I think, to make people believe him more!)

Peak Stupidity is not a survivalist/prepper site, Chris*. I really wish I lived in a place with more with-it independent, survivalist types, such as I’ve met, and even read words from right here. I can’t move right now though, but that’s just it: I really want to know more about how things will pan out, whether it’s worth it to care about traditional America, etc. before I make a plan. I guess you’ve got to hedge and guess, though ….

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* although I do maintain that the Peak of Stupidity comes when the financial stupidity reaches a head, and a big financial crisis occurs, most likely leading to political crises. I don’t think the world will have time for any of the stupidity (feminism, genderbending, race hustling, etc…) at that point. I wish I could tell you when, but in 2010 I reckoned America wouldn’t last the way it is now for even 5 years.

现在是谁在开玩笑？艾米·哈蒙（Amy Harmon）知道黑人无法达到必要的数学水平，但她有工作要做，根据《纽约时报》文化马克思主义者的议程来促进黑人的发展，你知道这就是她正在尝试做的事情，那么，为什么假的暴行？如果你有木箱鼓，Limey，你会用燃烧弹轰炸灰女士，而不是在这里占据空间！

Preppers are living in a fantasy world.

There are various levels. You can go by the people on those Doomsday shows on TV, but you know that the media wants to make them look bad. Some are ready for Mad Max/TEOTWAWKI*, the SHTF, or simply a very bad economy for a long time. Then again, I see the people that do want to start their own schools, maybe some local civil defense, etc, as preppers too, just at a different level.

Yeah, CoaSC, I didn’t assume you were storing diesel on 1000 gallon tanks, dehydrating venison, and burying guns (yet!), but I do know from your comments that you are in the same quandary as me, wondering whether America will go the Brazil route or what, and whether Americans will ever get enough of a clue in large enough numbers to do what you suggest, etc.

And even if Steve and Derb are doing this for the benefit of newbies, they should occasionally throw in some advice for what to do next.

That’d be good, but I guess it’s just not their thing. For one thing, as I believe I wrote above, they are really not anti-Socialism enough for my tastes. You can’t support Socialism, yet still argue for the good traditional-America-building ideas that you stated in the one paragraph.

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* In case anyone doesn’t recognize that, I’ll just put a song in here:

For both you and Citizen of a Silly Country – Equal time here for a real prepper song. This guy Corb Lund is from Alberta, Canada:

No one wants paper money, son, so you just better stop countin’.

也许他们在口头上为现实中的权力工作……

What does this song mean?

A little too intellectual for me, Bro.

No, but I can reasonably assume that Mr. Farley is smarter than you are.

I remember going out for a drink, with a black woman while in London, about 12 years ago. While talking profession came up and I found out she was a math teacher. I asked what drew her to want to teach math and she told me that not only was she not a math professor, having not studied in university, she was a physical education teacher who was offered more money to teach math.

London and positive discrimination (affirmative action in the US) has brought about the insanity of people in professions they haven’t the skills for, while those who do work in a 9-5, outside their profession because they’re white. Positive Discrimination murdered meritocracy, all in order to fool the west that blacks have the same intelligence as whites.

Sándor Márai, a Hungarian writer who lived in the USA after he fled from Communism had this to say in his diary about the NYT (sorry for the raw translation based on Google Translate):

The New York Times. I haven’t seen it for four years. Not that I missed it, but now, as I take the pound-weight Sunday copy, the bitter-stuffy ghetto smells from the pages – and from its readers, the New York Jewry -…. 90% advertisements, 10% hate, defamatory hostility against everything and everyone who is not a Jew. There is a Jewish conspiracy in the world – New York is the not secret bunker of this conspiracy – a ruthless, hardy, all-rage breeding, fascist Jewish conspiracy that uses communism as a tool (like the Nazis) for Jewish racial domination purposes. The New York Times is an English-language mouthpiece of this racial conspiracy – they might as well printed it in Hebrew letters for Zionists

You got me, Sport. I’ll listen to it, and try to make something out of it. Yes, I do know almost everything played by Rush, but, as with most music, it’s the tune and sound that really matter. Good lyrics are just a flourish … unless you’re singing folk songs about hammering in the morning and shit.

See Peak Stupidity’s 什么是一首好歌？

Sailer has a very powerful way of cutting through bullshit even if it is sometimes less than eloquent. Derbyshire just sounds angry about blacks.

this as is anything concerned John Derbyshire in these pages is gitz, impsy, arsehol-ish. I am pissed at myself for even getting to a Derbyshire article… but here I am anyway

what is the truth relative to Blacks and math?

I am sure this article and all the replies under it, contributed zilch to further clarity on this issue… if it is indeed an issue

I don’t have the faintest clue as to the true state of math awareness and capability among Black people the world over. I know there are a lot of Black american scientists in american industry, government, schools etc. you do not become a scientist of any kind unless you are facile in math.

it is the same all over the world..many Black scientists..an increasing factor not a decreasing one. guys apparently are simply choosing not to become mathematicians for whatever reasons

I grew up in a majority Black country. all the teachers were Black and all were facile in math..ALL..right through the levels. I don’t know no Black people who do not have high school math..and beyond. All are facile in math. why at least some did not on to become mathematicians I don’t know. I can think of at least 3 who can be if they wanted to be

we have a world that has been driven off the rails by white domination. any unusual thing is possible given massive white depredations on humanity, on planet earth for at least 400 years now. white people have been super destructive not positive. all the ills can be traced back to white planetary destructiveness.

look at what Derbyshire complains about here..the degradation of a supposedly once classy and proud newspaper, into a garbage publication.

Black mathematicians did not do that. there aren’t even enough to go around. its white people themselves did that.

and it is arguable of course whether the Times, the newspaper in question was ever a good publication..or well meant and intended, relative to the whole population it addressed. I for one never saw the NYT as anything but a tool of white domination, imperialism in the world, elitist and racist. that is what it was and is even in its technical decline.

I don’t care about the NYT at all..never did and don’t now for all those reasons. never did and never read it unless I got a free copy. I would not pay for the dam paper.

and look! we cant get a grip on the issue at all from what is offered here as an issue..a dearth of Black mathematicians… which may not be an issue at all. as a matter of fact I am happy that there are only vanishingly few Black men and women mathematician, who would be of course in the american military making that military more capable of killing people of color the world over

this talk here issue pisses me off because it has nothing to do with the truth of Black people relative to the study and profession of math in the world..about the facility of Black people in math the world over. i don’t know what that facility is but no one here does either.

but I am confident however, on and by my experience of life as Black human being..that reality is nowhere near any projected negative as on this page..to be found in the overall bigoted irrelevance
here starting with Derbyshire

塞勒对非裔美国人更感兴趣？比德比郡？

最有可能的是什么也没有。 那些受精卵从理想中诞生为完美的空白石板，对不对？ 只有纳粹分子不同意。

我想知道像约翰·德比郡这样的科学种族主义者是否会回应对智商“遗传”论点的实际批评。

主要问题是，自从智商作为一种衡量标准诞生以来，它已经发生了很大的变化。 弗林效应表明，智商每十年上升约 3 个百分点。 这在任何方面都没有争议。 另外，没有争议的是：黑人和白人的智商差距一直在缩小。 例如，查尔斯·默里就承认这一点。

由于我们知道弗林效应的价值，我们可以说，今天美国黑人的平均智商略高于美国白人祖父母的平均智商。 这又是没有争议的。

所以有什么问题？ 看来，如果智商完全取决于遗传，那么今天的黑人的基因比娜娜和皮爪略胜一筹？ 为什么还有担心呢？

这一事实往往会让像德比郡这样的种族主义者陷入困境。 我还没有听到一个好的答案，我也不期望在这里看到一个好的解释。

It is not uncommon for people with a degree in one field have the prerequisite education and background to teach another subject. Hence why when applying for teaching positions, it is not uncommon that a complete CV and course breakdown be submitted.

The assumption that a degree in one field but teaching in another reflects some manner of affirmative action is a failure to comprehend the academic teaching community. It’s akin to the assumption thata degree in any particular field equates to the ability to teach period.

That practice (cross discipline teaching) has existed since there has been education.

If it was the Georgia Guidestones it’d be understandable but I don’t think they were built yet. Still the symbolism is obvious – concrete as opposed to nature – and they’re showing you what they think.

‘Larry Summers said that catholics make bad bankers.’

Twll him who the fugger family were. Whilst you are at it tell him who the lombards were.

‘with all your graphs and statistical mumbo-jumbo’

Unfortunate choice of words.

TSK

‘I can’t believe you idiots, with all your graphs and statistical mumbo-jumbo, are confusing SATs, which are supposed to measure cumulative knowledge, with IQ tests, which are supposed to measure innate intelligence. ‘

Find a dictionary and look up the word correlation. Then get yourself a copy of the bell curve.

‘Your understanding of the subject seems rather limited, as evidenced by your rather ignorant comments.’

In several decades this will be his epitah.

that is nonsense isn’t it! what the hell is this then..Harbinger just wanted to say something, had nutten of value to, and just cut loose with that crap?

if she teachers math she has the facility to so..or she would not be teaching it effectively… so that she was still doing it at the doing of that listed conversation at least. if she was not effective, was not facile at math she would not have been asked to do it..and the kids would rebel

that happens all the time everywhere..where people with facility are often asked to fill in due to local need in areas for which they are not specifically traine.. but are nevertheless very capable at it

and that Black woman surely was capable at math.

what struck me is that she actually went for a drink with Harbinger eh? not on your life! or if she actually did I bet she never went again..and learnt something by that experience about the men she ought to avoid in future

Mr Farley is a smart guy. An underachieving a-hole, though, in my opinion. Do you have any idea where he is now and what he’s up to? A quick googling did not tell me.

What’s your opinion about racial differences in mental ability? Do you think that it’s likely that blacks are genetically just as smart as whites and Asians? There are obviously some extremely smart blacks, but they’re relatively rare. Why do you think it is that even blacks who grow up in prosperous families are usually not all that bright?

‘The assumption that a degree in one field but teaching in another reflects some manner of affirmative action is a failure to comprehend the academic teaching community.’

In terms of composing verbose comments to make yourself sound smart…less is more.

The point of the anecdote is that teaching gym class and teaching mathematics are not in any way correlated. My gym teachers were not fit to do anything more than run a boy scout troupe. The woman should obviously not have been offered the job. The commenter says it is due to affirmative action but we cannot be sure as he supplies no evidence. It is however the exact type of thing affimative action might lead to.

Along with basic statistics, maybe the very smart, very black Mr. Farley can teach you what ad hominem means.

When the NFL finally gets a white cornerback, you can tell me all about how whites are as fast as blacks.

Farley sounds impressive (summa cum laude at Harvard majoring in math).

But I kind of laughed at this: “Farley’s heroes include the African military genius Hannibal”

I wonder if he thinks Hannibal was of sub-Saharan ancestry?
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/08/10/opinion/l-about-hannibal-s-color-no-one-really-knows-714091.html
http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=1895

I get a good chuckle out of language like: “it is just possible that Hannibal looked more like Washington.” That’s nice. Would you bet your hard earned cash on it? Say if we were to find a DNA sample.

But back on topic, maybe Amy Harmon should interview Farley about his experiences. It sounds like he has received plenty of recognition.

Dr. Farley is the 2004 recipient of the Harvard Foundation’s Distinguished Scientist Award, a medal presented on behalf of the president of Harvard University for “outstanding achievements and contributions in the field of mathematics.” The City of Cambridge, Massachusetts declared March 19, 2004 to be “Dr. Jonathan David Farley Day.” In 2005, he was named a Science Fellow of Stanford University’s Center for International Security.

I wonder how that compares to the recognition accorded to white (or Asian) mathematicians of similar (or greater) ability and accomplishment?

说过：
“No, it really was better. Left-liberal, annoying, but spelling errors and outright bias in reporting was not tolerated, or at least blatant.”

How can any newspaper which praised Communism and Stalin be “better”?

exactly! totally true! the school would know her educational facilities because of her cv and in a pinch ask her to fill in to get over a school difficulty… which could simply have been inability to find a qualified candidate just yet to do the job

Harbinger must have been pissed because halfway through the drink she realized she made a mistake and took off

艾萨克·牛顿有一个绝妙的主意。他制定了万有引力定律。有一天，他在花园里睡觉，苹果确实掉到了他的头上。
这导致他的头脑中诞生了不仅是地球在拉动苹果，而且苹果也在拉动地球。这促使他制定了万有引力定律：拉力等于质量，而行程则根据质量而倒转。这意味着地球确实向苹果移动了一点点，而苹果则移动了很多。
此后，牛顿将余生都花在了分析太阳光束上的棱镜上，但一事无成。

Wouldn’t shock me to discover that Steve and Derb were unknowingly being used as safe release valves. Give race-aware whites some place to vent without actually doing anything.

But that strategy seems a bit dangerous. Letting people wake up at all can lead them to go off the reservation. I’m an example of that. However, that said, I have noticed that my comments criticizing Steve’s unwillingness to promote any course of action for whites are either not posted on iSteve or held for so long that they don’t matter. He seems very wary of any call to action, even the mild, non-violent goals that I list.

Truth isn’t hear to debate or exchange ideas. He’s here to obfuscate.

Get your hands on crime statistics, and you’d be angry about blacks as well.

“Also, not controversial: the black-white IQ gap has been shrinking. Charles Murray, for example, acknowledges this.”

and the reason for this is that after close and dominated association for 400 year, Black people Have become white people.

the disappearing disparity between Black and White IQ and what it means, is no positive thing to me..unless whites too have changed to have imbibed the old Black humanitarianism that would make them more human than they have been

if the change means the loss of our old humanitarianism..and it does appear that is indeed what has happened.. we are in trouble, the world is in trouble when Blacks and Whites are of the same cruel and destructive type of human beings

the merging of white and black IQ levels may not be a good thing at all

And you were there?
我不认为如此。
How about you don’t get into conversations you are clearly ignorant upon?

Lying isn’t nice. 😉

The Flynn effect is more about children learning how to take tests better than their parents and grandparents via the use of technology, which requires a logical line of thinking, rather than an increase in actual intelligence, “g”. Regardless, the black-white IQ gap isn’t shrinking.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/flynn-effect-smart-get-smarter/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2907168/

There was a shortage of maths teachers in the school she was at. She was asked to teach maths, from doing PE.
I asked her what her qualifications were and she had a GCSE in maths and that was it. I’m merely telling you what she told me. She was not math professor and when I asked how she could teach math, without the knowledge, she simply stated “They give me a syllabus to teach and I teach it. There is no ‘outside the box’ requirements. I simply write down on the board, what they tell me to.”

That’s the state of teaching in the UK today. It’s just programming. Long gone are the days where teachers brought out the individual within the human. Now it’s all collectivist ‘part of the group’ indoctrination that’s being foisted upon students. They are simply being programmed to be wage slaves and nothing more.

Indeed, the “holocau$t’ story which is simply impossible, laughably so.
http://www.codoh.com
Just a few of examples from the Zionist NYT:

Atrocity Propaganda and the Holocaust, Is There a Lesson Here?，作者保罗·格鲁巴赫（Paul Grubach）：

“A young Polish Jew who escaped from a mass execution in Poland… repeated a story [told to him by escapees who allegedly saw the electrocution machinery at at Belzec]… Jews were forced naked onto a metal platform operated as a hydraulic elevator which lowered them into a huge vat filled with water. They were electrocuted by current through the water.”
– February 12, 1944, “纽约时报”

看到： NYT / Time – Life promote human soap and human skin lampshade lies,
Soap and Lampshades: The Lies Persist, By Richard A. Widmann : https://codoh.com/library/document/628/?lang=en

NYT / Christopher Browning and the “Nazi Gas Chambers” of Belzec, 保罗·格鲁巴赫： https://codoh.com/library/document/962/?lang=en#ftnref11

主要问题是，自从智商作为一种衡量标准诞生以来，它已经发生了很大的变化。 弗林效应表明，智商每十年上升约 3 个百分点。
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我还没有听到一个好的答案，我也不期望在这里看到一个好的解释。

We don’t know the exact reason for the Flynn effect (yet), but consider height. There was a similar trend in height throughout the 20th century. Do you think height has a strong genetic component? Perhaps you have noticed that tall parents tend to have tall children and short parents tend to have short children? (and of course, one can observe a similar phenomenon for intelligence)

We can currently predict height from a person’s DNA with considerable accuracy. Between that and all of the other evidence height clearly has a strong genetic component and also demonstrates a trend similar to the Flynn Effect. The IQ GWAS are not to that point yet (they seem to require larger sample sizes), but heritability estimates indicate we are likely to reach that point soon for IQ.

就弗​​林效应的解释而言，两个主要的竞争者似乎是改善营养（身高趋势的可能原因）和增加教育，提高对智商测试中出现的问题类型的熟悉程度。 恕我直言，这很可能是这些原因和其他较小原因的组合。

另外，没有争议的是：黑人和白人的智商差距一直在缩小。

两点。
1. 这件事的争议性比你愿意承认的还要大。 关于差距的确切大小以及趋势的陡度和一致性存在很多争论。
2. 这并不是反对智商具有遗传成分的决定性论据。

Let’s look at a paper with a conclusion you will approve of: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324074343_Has_the_Black-White_IQ_Gap_in_the_United_States_Narrowed_A_Literature_Review

摘要：

我回顾了自心理测试开始以来美国黑人与白人智商差距是否有所缩小的证据。 我的结论是，大多数研究表明差距已经缩小，而那些得出矛盾结论的研究通常似乎是由于方法论缺陷而造成的。

这听起来不像是一个没有争议的领域（第 1 点）。

史密斯接着说：

即使差距缩小了，对于那些认为这主要是由遗传因素造成的人来说，也可能不会构成致命的缺陷，因为很少有遗传主义者（如果有的话）会声称这完全是由遗传因素造成的，因此不受潜在环境因素的影响。

I’d say that is a strong affirmation of my point 2.

对于那些对介绍性段落结尾的差距大小感兴趣的人：

例如，戈特弗雷德森（Gottfredson，2005a）认为，只要美国黑人和白人之间的成就差距缩小，就不会削弱世袭制的地位。 她写道（Gottfredson 2005a，第 313 页）：“1971 年至 1999 年 NAEP 趋势系列中黑人与白人的成绩差距并不比 g 理论预测的更大或更小。 预期的最大标准差是 1.20 标准差（黑白 g 差距本身的大小），最小标准差是 0.80 +/- 0.04 标准差（1.20 乘以核心科目的智商与成绩相关性）。 （Gottfredson，2005b）这与 Rushton 和 Jensen（2006）提出的论点类似，他们认为虽然 BWIG 可能已经缩小，但对过去 3.44 年中可能缩小的最大幅度的最佳估计是 100 个点（即1906-2006）。 他们得出的结论是，与效应大小 0.23 相对应的估计缩小是“。 。 。 完全符合我们对美国黑人与白人 g 差异 80 的估计遗传力的预测。” 当然，这依赖于这样的假设：黑白智商的差异反映了黑白 g 的差异，
这一假设与至少一项研究相矛盾（Fagan 和 Holland，2007）。

I will add that final sentence is questionable given the entirety (not one cherry-picked example) of the literature surrounding Spearman’s hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearman%27s_hypothesis

P.S. Just wanted to emphasize this part of the big block quote above: “our estimated heritability of .80 for the Black-White g difference in the United States.” That’s on the order of the heritability of height.

西方的数学家不会是亚洲人。 约翰·德比郡拒绝面对亚洲人对数学没有任何贡献的种族现实。 原因就是他的中国家庭。

“How about you don’t get into conversations you are clearly ignorant upon?”

你什么意思？

she told you all of that!?
为什么呢？

But back on topic, maybe Amy Harmon should interview Farley about his experiences. It sounds like he has received plenty of recognition.

It looks to me like Farley has received awards and recognition way out of proportion to his work in mathematics. A white or Asian professor of math with his record would be regarded as nothing special.

I believe that on average, different “races” have different skillsets. Of course as individuals this does not count. I got biblical here for a second but decided against it and erased.

In any event I think that it is true, most young black men are not suited to be Phds in Theoretical Math… and neither are most white men, Jews, or East Asians, but the nunber of blacks in lower.
MHO most young black men excel making their livings in job fields which require communication, physicality or emotional exchange of some sort. Most African-Americans do not have any interest in doing math equasions, (or coding, or looking throught a microscope) for 12 hours.

did she tell you the school she worked at also ?

Derbyshire won’t know what to do with himself if the New York Times “shuts down”. He could try to write something instead of the screeds of button pushing group think. Say, maybe there’s an opening at the New York Times for someone with those skills. Higher pay instead of shoveling dirt at one of the satellite offices.

“I don’t have the faintest clue as to the true state of math awareness and capability among Black people the world over. I know there are a lot of Black american scientists in american industry, government, schools etc. you do not become a scientist of any kind unless you are facile in math.”

If you ‘know’ there are black scientists, where are they besides in TV commercials and Hollywood’s ethno-propaganda movies? They are a mysterious, phantom sub-population to be sure. I believe that they are in Wakanda keeping the 22nd Century’s marvels hidden from Whitey. Who knows for sure?

I attended a school where the orientation was conservative, with a strong emphasis on rhetoric. Teachers would assign columns by William Safire and other writers because of the standard of their written words, regardless of content. I cannot imagine that use for it anymore.

The problem is not that there’s political bias. It’s that it has crept out of Op-ed and Editorial and become the ONLY thing that the paper does consistently anymore. I can think of two or three NYT articles from the past few years that did the job the press is supposed to do, attempting to hold public officials accountable. For the rest, it’s just constant political haranguing.

I recall once that they had, ON THE SAME FRONT PAGE, an article complaining about Jorg Haider and the freedom party in Austria, wanting to be more Austrian nationalist, while a similar article about Israel backed its national aims.

The interesting thing there is that for much of liberal Jewish America, Netanyahu’s Israel has become anathema.

Yeah, they oughta give back the Duranty Pulitzer.

Friedrich Engels was no slouch when it came to communism. Still, read his evaluation of what would happen to Prussia-led Germany in an upcoming conflict. He was spot on. The fact that millions died under his system does not make him completely wrong or useless.

更多在这里：
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/how-friedrich-engels%E2%80%99-predictions-world-war-i-came-true-11208

弗林效应更多的是指孩子们通过使用技术学习如何比他们的父母和祖父母更好地参加考试

如果这是真的，那么智商差距可能完全是由对技术的接触或兴趣造成的。 这并不是遗传论的胜利。

而不是实际智力的增加，“g”。

如果你知道“g”没有增加，那么你为什么不在遗传智力论证中使用你的证据而不是在智商测试中呢？ 答案当然是你不知道“g”是否在增加。

简而言之，如果智商测试是种族智力差距的主要证据，那么声称智商测试不能很好地衡量智力只会削弱这一论点。

无论如何，黑人和白人的智商差距并没有缩小。

毫无疑问，差距已经缩小。 有混合的证据表明差距继续缩小。 它缩小的事实很好地证明了环境因素在起作用。 但没有人知道它们是什么，或者它们是否仍在造成部分或全部剩余差距。

I.Q. has nothing to do with being a good or bad person.
So the I.Q. of races is meaningless in the end.
Currently the ‘smart’ bad people are defeating the smart good people and ruining the world.

But do keep on spouting crap inspired by articles here and the NYT by people of questionable intelligence obsessed with race and who’s smart and who’s not.

That is exactly what the race and I.Q. obsessed ‘smart bad’ people want you to do.

谢谢。

In any event I think that it is true, most young black men are not suited to be Phds in Theoretical Math… and neither are most white men, Jews, or East Asians, but the nunber of blacks in lower.

Most African-Americans do not have any interest in doing math equasions, (or coding, or looking throught a microscope) for 12 hours.

So should university math departments make it a high priority to hire more blacks? Should people in mathematics think that the rarity of black mathematicians is some sort of injustice?

这听起来不像是一个没有争议的领域（第 1 点）。

你的引述表明，大多数研究表明种族差距已经缩小，而那些没有缩小的研究往往存在使他们的结论无效的缺陷。 当然，人们可能不同意，但我不认为德比郡等人会在这一点上反对穆雷。

这不是反对智商具有遗传成分的决定性论据。

我也没有说是。 事实上，智商几乎肯定具有遗传成分。 这并不意味着种族智商差距有遗传原因。

弗林效应和缩小的差距表明，环境因素会影响智商分数，而且影响的尺度与种族智商差距本身一样大。 此外，无法根据任何单一原因确定这些大的变化，这表明环境因素可能以许多未知和意想不到的方式起作用。

所以当德比郡说：

例如，她指出，有人提出了造成这种差异的生物学原因。

他的证据是……工厂的类比和关于白板的稻草人？ 就是这样？

他还指责哈蒙没有科学素养？

oh I know By-tor. I know very well and can prove it.

but I wont do it for you. or with you here and now. you are not very smart and I like you just the way you are. why should I seek to change you

but you can change yourself. I don have any control over that and don’t know what you actually do with your time

John Derbyshire refuses to deal with the racial reality that Asians contributed nothing to mathematics.

Ever heard of Terry Tao?

Then you have no clue about the nature of teaching in elementary and High school.

You simply are making assumptions about what you don’t know. It is normal practice for teachers to teach in multiple disciplines. A gym instructor could be quite capable of teaching math despite that field not being their primary subject.

How it works in the US

https://www.sbcc.edu/counselingcenter/counselingquestions/pathways%20to%20teaching.pdf

https://www.mometrix.com/academy/cset/multiple-subjects/

It is highly recommended that instructors K-12 have the ability to teach more than one subject.

https://www.teachaway.com/teach-uk

https://www.prospects.ac.uk/jobs-and-work-experience/job-sectors/teacher-training-and-education/how-to-become-a-teacher

Note the requirements, they are intended to cover a more than one subject if need be.

While not the same certification process as in the US, an instructor can be qualified to teach a subject outside of their degree field. This is common practice, and our school systems in the US are built on that reality, especially in the midwest and rural areas where the one room school rooms were common or low income communities that could not afford the expense of hiring an instructor for every field. That diverse expectation is now now-unique to education in general.

I suspect that you are filling in spaces with assumptions. That schoools have standardized academic content, and requirements does not deny the reality, that a set of basic skill sets would still be expected to teach a subject, even one in which the instructor is not degreed.

How it works in the US

https://www.sbcc.edu/counselingcenter/counselingquestions/pathways%20to%20teaching.pdf

https://www.mometrix.com/academy/cset/multiple-subjects/

It is highly recommended that instructors K-12 have the ability to teach more than one subject.

https://www.teachaway.com/teach-uk

https://www.prospects.ac.uk/jobs-and-work-experience/job-sectors/teacher-training-and-education/how-to-become-a-teacher

Note the requirements, they are intended to covet a more than one subject if need be.

Oh, sure there are brilliant Black mathematicians out there.

https://undark.org/article/in-south-africa-decolonizing-mathematics/

She was asked to teach maths, from doing PE.
I asked her what her qualifications were and she had a GCSE in maths and that was it.

My understanding of the 普通中等教育证书 is that it is an exam to determine if a prospective teacher has sufficient knowledge of a subject to teach it.

I can’t speak for the UK, but I can speak for Texas. In Texas, if prospective teachers have passed the certification exam in the subject they intend to teach, and thus have become certified teachers in that given subject, they may take additional certification exams.

For example, I initially became certified as a math teacher . While teaching math, I took the certification exam for teaching Spanish. I passed the exam, and thus became certified to teach Spanish. The test, which involved both written and oral components, took 2-3 hours. I had to speak for 15-20 minutes. As I had worked in Latin America, it should come as no surprise that I passed the certification exam in Spanish. As a teacher and substitute teacher, I also had plenty of practice using Spanish in the classroom- and in speaking with parents.

I would also add that my use of the certification exam in Spanish was a good example of using personal knowledge instead of credentials to get certified. I had taken no Spanish courses after high school, but was fluent in Spanish.

If that PE teacher passed the GSCE for math, which is the same one that prospective math teachers took, I would assume she had sufficient math knowledge for the job. I would also assume that the GSCE exams have sufficient rigor to insure that only those with sufficient knowledge of a subject would pass it. If the GSCE exams don’t have sufficient rigor, that could be a problem.

As others have pointed out, it is not uncommon for high school teachers to be assigned courses outside their initial expertise. Some of these outside of expertise experiences are better than others. I had an Economics course in high school. My teacher, who was certified in history, told us that in his first year of teaching, he was assigned the Economics class. His major was in History, not in Economics. That first year, he told us, he was “a chapter ahead of my students. ” He was a very good teacher. As long as teachers take the extra time to get up to speed on the subject, the outside of expertise experience usually turns out well.

On the other hand, I had an AP World History course from a middle-aged teacher who taught American History. While he certainly had been exposed to World History material- and more- in college, he hadn’t used the material for 20 years. Having a family and also not having the energy of someone in his twenties, he chose to not spend the evening hours needed to get back to speed on World History. As a result, his “lectures” were BS- just rambling conversations with more current events than World History. But his assignments were much more rigorous. That was the worst teacher experience I ever had as a student. Word got around. While the course had been in the school for a decade, it was cancelled the following year because too few students signed up for it. Lack of students had never been a problem before- I was one of 17 in that AP History class.

Granted, PE to Math does seem a stretch. The rigor of the GSCE exam, I would hope, would screen out incompetents.

Okay ben the Ukrainian, then post some proof. Show us that these ‘black scientists’ exist outside of US TV commercials and Hollywood’s ethno-propaganda movies. Name some names besides Geo. Washington Carver.

“Nuclear power, especially, makes a big cognitive demand, and the U.S. won’t have enough smart people to maintain and operate nuclear power plants competently it when the population turns over demographically in another generation or two and we become a nation of brown dumbasses best suited for stoop labor”

South Africa has two working nuclear power plants supplying 5 % of the electrical power. South Africa dismantled itz nuclear weapons when the Africans took control of the country. Ain’t democracy and demographics a bitch!

I suppose the USSofA will have to follow a similar course when the demographics change. But that will be a while off unless Sub-Saharan Africa unloads about 100 million of itz excess population.

So no more nuclear weapons for America in the not too distant future. China will be very happy. Chinese have a lot of patience and 50 or 100 years is not too long to wait. Or it can happen a lot sooner with Sub-Saharan immigration. Maybe the Chinese can pay off some of our traitorous politicians to enact new laws increasing immigration from Africa.

Derbyshire definitely is too harsh on NYT. NYT is a free market enterprise, its first obligation to give a return to its investors, to do that it has to produce something it can sell; the Americans wants something to show they are educated without effort, then NYT has to oblige that market demand in order to generate revenue that its investors mandated.

Public funded schools and universities are the places to make the Americans do critical thinking or criticism, if the Americans cannot do critical thinking or criticism, blaming NYT is like closing the doors after the horses have left the barn. Derbyshire is committing Ad Hominem and Straw Man fallacies here, probably he believes the readers here are the as smart as NYT readers.

Thanks for actually engaging. You are much better than most people on unz.com who post with your views.

你的引述说，大多数研究表明种族差距已经缩小，而且那些往往没有使他们的结论无效的缺陷的研究。

Keep in mind that I linked to a source in line with your views. If you asked the authors of those other studies I bet they would say the paper I linked has flaws. That’s what I call controversial. Which was my point.

这不是反对智商具有遗传成分的决定性论据。

我也没有说是。 事实上，智商几乎肯定具有遗传成分。 这并不意味着种族智商差距有遗传原因。

没错，但这也不是反对具有遗传成分的种族差距的决定性论据。 感谢您对 IQ 的遗传成分至少有一定的合理性。

弗林效应和缩小的差距表明，环境因素会影响智商分数，而且影响的尺度与种族智商差距本身一样大。 此外，无法根据任何单一原因确定这些大的变化，这表明环境因素可能以许多未知和意想不到的方式起作用。

足够公平，但这些都没有提供一个决定性的论据来反对很大一部分种族差距具有遗传原因。 我同意部分差距可能是环境方面的。 问题是：多少钱？ 我也认为很明显，种族差距的一部分是遗传的。 但话说回来，多少钱？ （顺便说一句，请在之前的评论中看到我的 PS 以获得一个答案）

And why the redirect to Derbs point? I did not mention that and to my eyes it looks an attempt to introduce a strawman against me since you can’t respond effectively to what I 说过。

不错的回应，但我会注意到你完全没有参与我的大部分评论。 尤其是身高比喻。

I began my response with this quote from you: “I have yet to hear a good answer, and I have no expectations of seeing a good explanation here.”

我的回答合格吗？ 如果没有，为什么不呢？

You do understand that the GCSE is intended to be a secondary school level ability test and is not a teaching certification exam, right? (I would have thought so given that you linked the wiki, but your first paragraph indicates otherwise)

Would Texas consider a decent score on the SAT-M a sufficient qualification to teach math?

The problem is not that there’s political bias. It’s that it has crept out of Op-ed and Editorial and become the ONLY thing that the paper does consistently anymore. I can think of two or three NYT articles from the past few years that did the job the press is supposed to do, attempting to hold public officials accountable. For the rest, it’s just constant political haranguing.

Yes, it’s a sad state of affairs.

No, I am most certainly not. She had a BASIC math SCHOOL qualification, which she will have attained at around 16. I’m not repeating myself but I will state they were her words not mine.

Bottom line – here in the UK (England) the more black teachers, the dumber the pupil and dumbing down of education. Low IQ among the Negro peoples and those who aren’t stupid aren’t because of white genes in their ancestry. It’s a fact. All one has to do is look at inner cities for proof – high Negro, low white population results in the domain of gang culture (choice) and morons.

Without reading his reply, Truth will counter that your female friend who is 6’1″ is probably a man. He thinks most women are men.

以下是 Rush 的歌曲 Witchhunt 的歌词。我想他们今年的表现与他们的作家尼尔·皮尔特（Niel Peart）的预期完全相反：

夜晚是黑色的
没有月亮
空气凝重而静谧
义务警员聚集
孤独的火炬照亮的山

特征在闪烁的光线下扭曲
面孔扭曲怪诞
闷热的夜里沉默而严肃
暴民的行动就像恶魔附身一样
良心平静，权利平静
相信他们的方式是最好的

正义崛起
带着灼热的双眼
充满仇恨和恶意
疯子以恐惧和谎言为食
殴打、焚烧、杀害

他们说有陌生人威胁我们
在我们的移民和异教徒中
他们说有奇怪的东西太危险
在我们的剧院和书店的货架上
That those who know what’s best for us
必须站起来，把我们从自己手中拯救出来

快速判断
容易生气
慢慢理解
无知和偏见
And fear walk hand in hand…

为什么禁止讨论智力和种族？假设“种族现实主义者”被证明是错误的。平均而言，特别是在极端情况下，犹太裔美国人比“白人”更聪明，而非洲裔美国人则不如“白人”聪明，这是不正确的。进一步假设这种信念盛行并被付诸行动。如果有的话，我们的国家会发生什么变化？

或者假设种族现实主义者是正确的，并且某些可识别的群体比其他群体更聪明或更不聪明？如果这种信念变得普遍，那么会怎样？

西方（基督教？）文化很奇怪，因为它强调所有人的“平等”，至少在上帝眼中是这样。因此，我们有道德义务将每个人作为个体而不是群体的成员来评判。

美国人同意，个体的特征（身高、运动能力、智力等）各不相同，而且我们也毫不费力地同意，这些特征至少部分是由祖先的基因决定的。我们不同意可识别的群体（无论是种族、宗教、民族、语言、历史、国籍、文化……）如此不同。事实上，有些人否认任何此类团体的重要性，甚至否认其存在。

我们大多数人在与他人打交道时，都会对他们进行判断并采取相应的行动。如果我们不这样做，我们就很容易受到诈骗，甚至更糟。

如果种族现实主义者错了怎么办？如果他们是对的怎么办？禁止谈论甚至思考这个问题的禁忌让我们忽视了它。崔波诺？或者没有？

He’s the biggest censor here at Unz by a long shot.

不仅仅是犯罪。美国几乎所有的娱乐形式，音乐、舞蹈、舞台、电影、电视、体育、喜剧以及推动这些事物的广告，都是为了促进、提升和庆祝美国黑人而设计的。

德比郡有黑人疲劳症，我也是如此。

I notice that you didn’t mention the paper I cited and didn’t cite any of your own. Interesting.

Besides, I don’t really give a shit if blacks are less intelligent than whites. They’re not my people. That’s all that matters. NE Asians appear to more intelligent than whites in special reasoning. Good for them. I still don’t want to live with them or be ruled by them.

Anyway, sorry to break the news to you, but the the black-white achievement gap for 17-year-olds on the NAEP math test (you know, the one most associated with IQ) has remained steady since the early 1990s. This makes sense. I’d suspect that improvements in black environments and nutrition (yeah, it’s nature and nurture) in the 60s and 70s did help blacks, i.e. we closed the environment gap and left mostly genetics.

Look, life is an IQ test, and blacks fail miserably – at least when asked to succeed in an environment designed for whites. (Other groups, NE Asians excel, btw.) I’m sure that you explain that away with white racism voodoo, which somehow doesn’t impact NE Asians and South Asians living in the U.S. Oh, right, slavery, Jim Crow, something, something.

Face it. Blacks didn’t evolve in an environment that required planning. Jumping and humping worked best, so blacks became good at jumping and humping. Why you’re blaming white people for that, I don’t know.

I believe that on average, different “races” have different skillsets. Of course as individuals this does not count.

That’s only true if you’re dealing with only that individual and only for their lifetime. Otherwise, the average IQ, work ethic, level of violence, etc., for a race matters a lot. Regression to the mean.

The decision to hire a guy to work at your shop is different from the decision to allow a guy and his family into your country for generations to come.

Btw, blacks don’t like math and coding at a rate dramatically below whites and Asians because they’re not as good at it. You’re making it sound like they could do as well as whites and Asians if they wanted to. And that, my friend, is a lie, and lying isn’t nice.

dis is more sensible dan wats his name by-tor wit’ his Wakanda references.

除了我从自己的经历中收集到的信息之外，你还想让我说些什么？

我说我一生都经历过黑人在各个级别的数学设施。 这不是黑人不能做数学的情况。 黑人没有数学能力。 你们他妈的从哪儿弄来的？ 如果我们对数学有恐惧症，那就是强加给我们的一种灌输的有组织的殖民主义事物。 但这可以而且将会被打破……已经是。

Black people can do match, do do math and any dam thing we have to do..or can be done by any others in life. Black do not suffer from inability at anything and at all levels. I don’t know why that is even an implication here in these pages..in the UNZ review in where there is supposed to dwell high intelligence among the fry commentators, on the words of our intellectual masters, like Derbyshire. ( hahahaha )

为什么我认识的一些人没有成为数学家？

I don’t know. but it is not as if they they failed to become something professional in life. they did not and are just about completing successful bureaucratic careers as we speak. it could have been simple choices.

南非的情况对我来说似乎是不言而喻的！ RSA 发生了什么根本性的变化……一个黑人第五纵队现在可以控制 RSA 资本主义的堡垒，通过统治实际上仍然强奸整个非洲……为了西方白人精英的利益？

在与白人世界有着 400 年的密切联系之后，黑人现在大部分是白人。 这个事实很难接受，但我因此经历了社会痛苦，这种痛苦迫使我仔细审视这一发展并接受我的发现。

we have internalized a lot of the white people immersed in for so long and now behave, indeed live accordingly. there has been no Black cultural revolution, to cleanse the people of colonialism…our minds are still imprisoned in all the white colonialist bullshit and imposed limitations.

文化运作的方式仍然加深了黑人的精神禁锢。 现在黑星很多，现在比以前多了十倍……还在增加。 但它们都表明并巩固了汤姆叔叔、精英主义的白人态度和生活方式。

whatever cultural change the state of things may bring does not affect the masses of ordinary Black people save in bad ways…set up the uncle Tom and auntie as hero and model. the roads upward are clogged by those want to be, by that path. the roads are narrow and even if we see major increase in Black stars there is no room up there for a billion of them

if what the former racist South African leader said was true back in the day..”why teach the Black child math when he will have no opportunity to use it!” it is still true today.

RSA 正在做些什么来发展和扩大自己作为一个由所有人民的观点和观点驱动的国家？ 没有什么！

RSA 仍在为资本家及其全球利益工作。 黑人孩子对数学毫无用处，事实上，他们可能会学到很多东西，因为他们的国家并没有要求他们为自己的国家做这件事。

他们的国家没有迎合他们，资本主义发展中的工作很少与他们无关或几乎没有关系。 他们接受的教育必须适合资本主义国家的需要……因此他们必须通过态度和举止为自己量身定制，否则就没有工作适合他们。 反正他们没有工作，因为只有这么多人可以四处走动。 他们必须是受雇或失业的叔叔阿姨

现在，如果那些人突然移动并推翻社会局势，将西方主导的资本主义抛诸脑后，例如将 RSA 转变为集体民族主义利益，那么我们就会有一个不同的故事，一个真实的故事。新的民族主义目标和由此产生的人民需求。

I don’t know what the overall education developments would be in such a situation, and what part and demand there would be for mathematicians. but the people are capable: that is the bloody point. they are capable of whatever they want to do with what they have. the point is for them to get to that..to take their whole dam country and bend it to their needs.. not those of exploitative foreigner

所以 RSA .. 所以在同一个国家中，所有其他国家都摆脱了直接的西方殖民主义和白人统治 400 年，而且还在不断增加。

你弄错了，作者专注于并关心黑人的数学。 在那篇大坝文章中的德比郡也是如此，不管他谈论的是什么数学。 谁他妈的说他们现在并且会如此关注由他们发展的任何文化分配，并为他们？

美国培养数学专业人士可能很重要。 对你们来说，这似乎是一个很好的地位……但是，如果有大量数学专业人士挤在美国的街道上……这对任何地方都有多大用处？

what would drive education and popular choice is the culture of the people, their nature/natural conditions, how they must make a living in their existential conditions…what and how they must develop to make themselves safe there.

如果国家有石油，他们就需要地质学家、工程师、生物学家、化学家和所有相关专业人士。 他们需要一些他们很容易产生的数学家。

无论他们拥有什么，他们都必须相应地工作并进行调整。

they key would be for them to be totally in charge of their nations… in it, about it, how it is run internally, and their foreign policy..all their own business having absolutely nutten to do with anybody here… and what you think about them.

关键是要打破仍然在社会上扼杀他们的旧的剥削性的、愚蠢的、外国资本主义的文化范式……在文化上彻底改变自己，：回到自己的轨道上，为他们而行动，做他们需要的事情，生产他们需要的任何生活：在生活的所有领域，其中之一可能是专注于高等数学的发展

who the hell the, would care how many mathematicians you and By-tor think Black people must have to prove prowess at math..and not be considered an inferior people…must have for you to stop calling them Wakanada?

would do Black people care anyway what you think? I don’t! and I don’t think any Black people anywhere care at all what you call them? if even they heard what you say of them in the pages of the UNZ!” that would be of little concern your both and your opinions would be inaccurate and racist as they are.

和先驱..我看他不会回答我的最后两个问题。 如果那个和他一起喝酒的黑人女人真的像他暗示的那样把她的情况告诉了他，她就真的很愚蠢。 如果他知道她工作的学校，他无疑会离开，给她带来麻烦，让她丢掉工作。

这就是为什么我希望那是他的假故事，捏造……事实上，没有哪个黑人女人像那样愚蠢地与这些她第一次喝酒时并不熟悉的人敞开心扉在酒吧。

it is either there was no date, no drink..or that stuff happened in different circumstances, more, or most likely and he fabricated the bar/drink circumstances to hide what he really did. that’s right what he did. he more than likely worked in the situation with the woman, discovered what he did and used it against the woman..prolly cost her her job

Wouldn’t shock me to discover that Steve and Derb were unknowingly being used as safe release valves. Give race-aware whites some place to vent without actually doing anything.

And they would have gotten away with it too; if it wasn’t for you meddling kids…

No, elementary shcools should make it a high priority to find out at what kids are innately good.

No. But you have to understand, people in admissions officers must earn their salaries also. It’s all moving dirt from one pile to another.

Lots of white guys play basketball. I don’t think that they are under any illusion that will be as good as Michael Jordan.

“I believe that on average, different “races” have different skillsets. Of course as individuals this does not count.”

环境条件与它有什么关系……您知道几个世纪以来您生活和拥有的地方，以及您必须在那里做什么才能生活、生存和繁荣？

黑人可能相对于比赛的恐惧或恐惧来自被白人殖民，他们将我们的教育引导到相应的死胡同，削弱了文化中的黑人竞争

我在一个黑人占主导地位的地区长大，所有的数学都是由黑人完成的……老师，会计都是垃圾。 通信公司雇佣了很多数学人才。

如果有对专业套装的需求......任何专业套装：并且比赛是免费和开放的，并且所有人都知道需要套装和奖励那么我们可以在这里看到他辩论的真相

在美国，成为一名数学家并没有什么性感……根本没有。 很少有人想成为一名精通数学的人

I would love to the analysis that links an increase to black instructors to inner city dysfunctions.

I would hazard a guess that the dysfunctions of current inner cities, pales in comparison to the inner city life when the those cities were comprised of whites. I take it you think Charles Dickens, critic on the “deplorable” state of the nation’s inner cities was a discussion about blacks.

And the history of Great Britain whose inner cities have always had various gangs suggests that what is now is endemic to city life, regardless of whether said teachers are black or white.

Changing the subject won’t change the content or context of the contentions you advance. That simply, a black instructor whose primary field of study might be P.E. , might very legitimately be capable of teaching math or any number of subjects. And while I won’t challenge your narratives, they do not in any manner change the fact, that a particular degree somehow limits said knowledge and skill to teach other subjects. Nor is it an indication that said teacher is teaching merely as some manner of AA agenda. Furthermore, even if said agenda was in place, still would not be an indication that said teacher is incapable of teaching multiple subjects — even if said instructor is disgruntled on the matter. An instructor teaching basic math need only the skills and knowledge to teach the same.

You simply don’t have enough information even to your example to make the conclusions you are advancing.

Your attempt to change the subject notwithstanding.

LOL

Dickensian Britain cannot be compared to inner city, post, civil rights USA. How you could even contemplate the idea beggars belief. One word – Detroit, sums up blacks in the west in a nutshell. Once a bustling, white majority, city and now a crime ridden, black majority, ghetto.

He has to move back to China and help the Chinese with their abacus calculations. We do not need him in the West.

笑。我确信我们正在谈论英国。关键是，你试图通过转向其他分析领域来阐述你的观点，而没有通过数据或分析与你提供的单一例子有丝毫联系，从历史来看，这种尝试只会失败。

换句话说，你所声称的关于该城市黑人的说法并不具有历史唯一性。除非，你打算争辩说

内城功能失调，即。帮派活动等直到黑人教师和黑人学生到达内城时才存在。

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To the extent that inner city Detroit contained the same dysfunctions as those of England’s inner cities before the arrival of blacks, i think one can safely contend that any inner city environments tend to provide environments where dysfunction and gangs are more numerous than other environments regardless of skin color.

但我当然能理解你为什么想转移话题。

Frescobaldis, Tobins Gianinnis

“西方（基督教？）文化很奇怪，因为它强调所有人的“平等”，至少在上帝眼中是这样。因此，我们有道德义务将每个人作为个体而不是群体的成员来评判。”

平等在于“我们”都是单独判断的。上帝不是民主国家，你也不等于上帝。

不错的回应，但我会注意到你完全没有参与我的大部分评论。 尤其是身高比喻。

由于各种原因，这不是一个非常有用的类比。 首先，高度非常容易测量。 当您测量高度时，这就是您正在测量的。 智商测试不衡量智力，因此有很多潜在的干扰。 然后你会有混杂的影响——因为身高营养似乎是唯一的，也许暴露于环境中的毒素或压力也可能是因素。. ，社会经济地位，也许还有更多。 这只是一个更复杂的过程，没有理由相信它的行为与高度相同。

是的，大部分观察到的差距完全有可能是遗传的。 但是当你说：

我也认为很明显种族差距的一部分是遗传

我认为这只是一种猜测。

我的回答合格吗？ 如果没有，为什么不呢？

你的回答是合理的，但你似乎并不认为智商差距只能是遗传性的。

真正的问题是，为什么在 Unz Review 读者的狭隘政治议程之外，其中任何一项都很重要。 显然，通过改善教育环境可以提高黑人智商。 如果智商是一个如此重要的指标，那么即使差距主要是遗传的，那也将是一个起点。

我并不关心黑人和数学，因为居住的半文盲黑人群体基本上是国家的一大块，如果没有平权行动的招聘和不同种类的大规模转移支付，他们完全无法生存。我请你说出黑人科学家的名字，还有你现在也声称认识的黑人数学家。你对白人大肆咆哮，但你却被白人创造的现代世界所吸引，而不是坦桑尼亚的非洲地狱景象，在那里他们在奥巴奥巴仪式中切除了儿童的性器官和牙齿。你愿意住在利比里亚吗？那里的儿童在巷战前就被吸干了血？我知道，你正身处非洲瓦坎达清爽干净的未来非白人世界。瓦坎达不是位于利比里亚东南部而是坦桑尼亚西部吗？或者，是伊利诺伊州沃康达吗？

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wauconda,_Illinois

Wauconda 由来自新英格兰的白人于 1850 年创立，目前 90% 是白人吗？ 不好了！

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6648171/Ten-children-dead-Tanzania-teeth-genitals-cut-witchcraft-rituals.html

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/witchcraft-brutal-killings-bodies-10-children-show-tanzania-teeth-pulled-put-genitals-cut-off-790957

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333465/Liberias-General-Butt-Naked-The-evil-man-world.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/23/liberia-war-crimes-chucky-taylor

你是 RT English 论坛上的乌克兰纳粹蛆虫 Jen 吗？ 我以前见过你咆哮的风格。

真相

……很多非裔美国人并不幻想他们也会像拉里·伯德那样投三分球！

底特律人口约占美国黑人总人口的 2.3%。你的论点是底特律犯罪分子代表了美国全体人民。

因为我喜欢在这些问题上保持慷慨，所以我将计算由单个黑人实施的每一起犯罪活动事件，这并不准确，但它描述了您的建议的含义。

在该案件中，45,000名黑人在底特律犯罪。这占整个黑人人口的 0.1047%。再次出于慷慨的考虑，我们得出这样的结论：整个美国监狱里的囚犯都是黑人，大约有 1 万人，我们将把他们指定为黑人。占黑人人口的 2.4%。

根据您的说法，总体上有 0.1047% 的人犯罪，这代表了 42,999,999 人的犯罪行为。根据我不同意的数字。

现在您提到了帮派，所以让我们看一下，相对于底特律总人口（占黑人总人口的 2500%），底特律的帮派估计数量为 0.25 个。因此，作为描述性的，它甚至没有反映底特律的黑人，更不用说反映美国的整个黑人人口了。

智商最初被定义为衡量你解决以前从未见过的问题的能力。
受文化和教育偏见的智商测试是对原始想法的破坏。

但这是真正的交易……

“天才”黑猩猩精明管| 国家地理 -

与乌鸦所解决的问题相比，黑猩猩没有解决的问题–

乌鸦天才解决了极为困难的问题–

感谢您的指导，艾哈迈德。你是个好人。

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/11/walter-e-williams/black-self-sabotage-2/
“ 2016年，在巴尔的摩13所中学中的39所中，没有一个学生的州数学考试成绩达到了熟练水平。 在其他六所高中中，只有1％的人测试过数学水平。 原始人数中，有3,804名巴尔的摩学生参加了该州的数学测试，其中14名经过测试（http://tinyurl.com/y7f56kg2）。 全市范围内，只有15％的巴尔的摩学生通过了该州的英语考试。
在全国 100 个最大的学校系统中， 巴尔的摩学校在学生人均支出方面排名第三。
和：
巴尔的摩的黑人学生获得的文凭证明他们可以达到 12 年级的水平，而实际上他们可能无法达到七年级或八年级的水平。这些学生及其家人没有理由怀疑他们的文凭是假的。因此，如果他们找不到好工作，不能通过公务员考试，在大学成绩不佳并大学退学，他们会将自己的困境归咎于种族主义。毕竟，他们有高中文凭，就像白人有高中文凭一样。在他们看来，受到区别对待的唯一解释就是种族主义。”

更正：现在您提到了帮派，所以让我们看一下，相对于底特律总人口（占黑人总人口的 2500%），底特律的帮派估计数量为 0.0058 个。因此，作为描述性的，它甚至没有反映底特律的黑人，更不用说反映美国的整个黑人人口了。

美国估计有 850,000 名帮派成员。假设他们都是黑人，那么这里的慷慨程度将占总人口的 2.o%，这意味着，事实上有 42,987,000 个无亲属关系的黑人有这样的联系。

再次基于数字，我不同意

我在数字上对你很慷慨。

人们可能会认为 VDare 可以组织一个具有可识别格式的智能网站。有人会错的。

你知道，在这场战斗中我没有狗，我只是讨厌看到一场糟糕的争论。

您对普遍存在的黑人犯罪、暴力、帮派、懒惰和功能障碍的回应是指向维多利亚时代伦敦的白人犯罪、暴力和帮派（这是事实）并说：看到了吗？白人也这么干！ （这又是真的。）

你忘记的是：白人首先建造了伦敦，然后沿着边缘和边缘发展了犯罪和帮派。但白人还建造了塔楼、议会大厦、圣保罗大教堂和皇家阿尔伯特音乐厅。

黑人在一座又一座美国城市中充斥着犯罪、暴力和帮派。但我不记得他们一开始就建造过底特律。或者巴尔的摩。或者卡姆登（如果你能想象的话，曾经是沃尔特·惠特曼的足迹）。

天啊，黑人甚至没有建造金沙萨。

艾萨克·牛顿生活在前化学时代。他的炼金术研究是当时研究化学的唯一途径，无疑是试图通过炼金术实践推导出化学定律。这使他既是一个贫穷的炼金术士，也是一个贫穷的化学家，这就是为什么他今天仍然生活在我们中间。

我不是来自非洲

我生活在白色的世界里，因为你把我带到了这里。直到最近我才想到我的非洲选择。

非洲开始对我来说看起来真的很好......或者回到我最初的拉丁堡垒

但当你咒骂非洲时，你的近视或某种视觉/精神/情感状况使你看不到是你在黑土地上制造了屎，并断然拒绝让我们清理它

一些白人替代者最近正在计算美国霸权政变……自“独立时代”以来哈哈哈哈。我想他们已经是 1945 年代了，从 XNUMX 年开始

我不会和你陷入一场胶着的战斗，你知道的。我不会浪费那样的时间。当我攻击白人时，我说的是实话。因此不能攻击我所说的话。如果我像你讨厌黑人一样讨厌白人那么你就可以攻击我

你这个人！如果你想证明你关于黑人野蛮、自卑等的情况，你应该来和我们一起对抗你自己的……帮助我们让你离开我们的道路……并在这段时间内远离我们。那么我们就可以失败，在我们的空间里制造污水坑，靠我们自己，在无人协助的情况下，在和平中，没有你们的干涉、政变和制裁等

根据你的说法..我们不需要你..把事情弄得一团糟。所以，别挡道，伙计。来和我们一起战斗
哈哈哈哈

如果黑人和棕色人种可以算的话，到了 2019 年，他们就不会还生活在他们现在生活的狗屎坑里，从非洲到中美洲、中东、南亚、东南亚。作为殖民地白人，这些人仍然生活在他们的泥屋、洞穴和原始的石头结构中。他们所有的建筑和道路都是一个世纪前白人建造的，他们甚至无法维护。

像德雷医生这样的黑人医生有很多。

“在此案中，45,000 名黑人在底特律犯罪。这占整个黑人人口的 0.1047%。再次出于慷慨的考虑，我们得出这样的结论：整个美国监狱里的囚犯都是黑人，大约有 1 万人，我们将把他们指定为黑人。那是黑人人口的 2.4%。根据您的说法，有 0.1047% 的黑人犯罪过，这代表了 42,999,999 人的犯罪行为。根据我不同意的数字。”

我不确定你在这里想说什么。您似乎在没有上下文的情况下包含了几个不同的数字，以夸大论点的有效性。例如，你一直提到“2.4%”的黑人人口，但这并不相关。黑人仅占美国人口的 13% 左右，但与其他人口相比，其犯罪数量却高得多。底特律很暴力，但广大黑人也很暴力。也许其他地方的黑人与底特律同胞相比犯罪率较低，但与几乎所有其他人口统计数据相比，他们在其他地方的犯罪率也高得多，因此您认为底特律并不代表整个黑人的论点（以及您隐含的断言底特律是某种异常值）并不完全正确。帮派代表也是如此。有鉴于此，底特律可以用来收集有用的信息，具体取决于正在讨论的内容。

不是我的咆哮..不。当我有时间的时候，我会在这里和猎隼上咆哮。就是这样。别把我和其他白人疯子混为一谈。这不是我疯狂的性格和品质

我是被 Unz 本人吸引到 UNZ 的。我读到了他一篇关于犹太人的文章，发现他的能力很引人注目。这家伙有真正的能力..智力。令人印象深刻......就像我认识的一些黑人学者一样

然后我在这里遇到了你们。你们真的很有趣，完全代表了常见的白人病态..种族主义和暴力，对上帝和自然撒尿，无法与任何人和任何人和谐相处..对女性的仇恨和暴力……

噗噗！我可以继续说下去。当我有时间的时候……休息一天左右，我碰巧来到这里，我就会继续下去。

让我震惊的是你曾经是我们。我不断地反驳这个论点。天啊，我努力奋斗……我还在奋斗。白人永远不可能从黑人进化而来。绝不！一定有什么错误。我！就像你们一样……你们是从我进化而来的？不可能的！我不会拥有它

我这辈子从来没有打过女人……做梦也想不到。我不知道有哪个黑人这样做过。我认识的白人男性与黑人女性结婚，在我的家乡，他们一直都是这样做的。但我认为几年前它就已经衰退了。现在的黑人女性会杀死她们……但不会杀掉老一辈。他们害怕

我希望你离开我的头发，伙计……就这样。我知道你想杀了我……我所有的人，我们所有的黑鬼。但我希望能够阻止这种情况发生，并允许你继续自杀……在你回复我之前完成它。作为白人，你们是杀手，对你们的本性视而不见。你可以指责我是罪犯，但你看不到你刚刚合法扩大到包括足月婴儿的堕胎业务

你这样做是因为你想要更成熟的身体部位。你不认识猪、狗、牛和山羊……人类。但看看你做了什么……合法化。这不是最可怕的事态发展吗？你们简直是彻底疯了。看看你把世界变成了什么，你用手指着我

你把我变成了像你一样的怪物，并为此责怪我。有趣的！

底特律几乎被所有人抛弃，除了那些根本无力搬迁的贫穷黑人。在狄更斯笔下的伦敦，既有富人，也有穷人。

底特律是一个工业墓地，近乎鬼城。中产阶级白人在六七十年代离开。中下层阶级和贫穷的白人找到了离开的方法。只剩下最贫穷的黑人。

显然，如果一座城市只剩下贫穷的黑人，那么犯罪率就会比熙熙攘攘的各阶层人口还要多。

“ 2.3％”

不可能，底特律几乎是一座鬼城。其剩余的黑人人口不可能达到北美黑人人口的数量。

BEN

当然是他们全黑的污水池。当白人迁移并且不再有税基来支持失业黑人时，我们将这种情况称为“白人逃亡”。

啊哈，但是当白人离开一座城市，黑人只能依靠自己的资源和设备时，城市就会因为没有钱而瓦解。

白人只要搬到40英里外，一座城市就变成了一个内部世界。

底特律的黑人没有涓滴经济。在芝加哥或纽约市，有富有的白人和犹太人，他们的国内生产总值惠及贫穷的黑人。在底特律，每个人都很穷，几乎没有白人留下来，留下来的人也很穷，黑人别无选择，只能犯下暴力犯罪。

毒品交易不是暴力犯罪，当人们有工作和金钱时，比如纽约或芝加哥，黑人就可以从事贩卖毒品的工作。

卖淫不是暴力犯罪，在一个有钱的城市，许多吸毒成瘾的黑人女性将依赖于受雇的男性客户群。

但在底特律，没有人有钱，每个人都很穷，犯罪总是暴力的。没有其他方法可以获取金钱。

那么，全黑人的海地在独立 200 年后，周围没有邪恶的白人压迫他们，有多成功呢？

“……我这辈子从来没有打过女人……做梦也想不到。我不知道有哪个黑人这么做过……”

所以你知道所有黑人都这么做吗？ (-x-=+)

自从美国/法国杀害让·雅克·德萨林以来，海地已经被多少次政权更迭

几年前，美国曾两次驱逐阿里斯蒂德。美国只会容忍海地的第五纵队。看看他们现在做什么。美国的力量仍然强大到可以再安装一个第五纵队傀儡

你们是在玩游戏吧。你肯定知道这一切。这是常见的公开信息，我在这里重复一遍

有趣

这是奥巴马早期的一张

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Wilson

“亚历山大·冯·洪堡在底特律”

“这位著名科学家通过一次时空事故被带到了现代底特律，当他看到自己的想法与现实发生冲突时，他感到非常震惊。”

一部另类右翼电影。

“我想知道像约翰·德比郡这样的科学种族主义者是否会对智商“遗传”论点的实际批评做出回应。”

我看过好几个回复。你提出什么批评？

“主要问题是，自从智商作为一种衡量标准诞生以来，它已经发生了很大的变化。”

那不是问题。在过去的三分之一个世纪里，它们已经非常接近相同的水平，现在再加上弗林效应的一些点，这种效应现在似乎在欧洲的某些地区正在逆转。如果一个群体已经最大限度地发挥了认知能力的环境部分，这正是你所期望的。营养不再像过去那样成为认知发展的限制因素。人们可以类似地指出，多年来，人类的身高也发生了很大的变化，但你不能用它来暗示身高没有遗传成分，因为它确实如此；身高和智力一样，随着营养（和其他因素）的增加而增加，但近年来由于环境因素已经达到极限，身高的增长速度有所放缓。

“弗林效应表明，智商每十年提高约 3 个百分点。这在任何方面都没有争议。另外，没有争议的是：黑人和白人的智商差距一直在缩小。例如，查尔斯·默里就承认这一点。”

这不太正确。黑人和白人的智商差距非常大，并且在过去三十年里并没有大幅缩小。你暗示它现在任何一天都会接近于零，只是因为它的平仓金额微不足道。事实上，它太大了，以至于在阅读此评论的任何人的有生之年都可能不会关闭。弗林效应很大程度上是营养和幼儿教育的结果。中国等发展中国家的智商随着营养和教育水平的提高而上升，而发展时间较长的西欧国家则趋于平稳或下降，这证明了这一点。

“既然我们知道弗林效应的价值，我们就可以说，今天美国黑人的平均智商略高于美国白人祖父母的平均智商。再说一遍，这没有争议。”

但完全无关。智商，就像人类的身高一样，既有遗传因素，也有环境因素。例如，现代罗马人比他们的古代祖先更高，但他们也比许多现代非洲人（甚至比荷兰人等其他欧洲人）矮得多。您在这里试图做的是通过暗示，由于某些变量可以随着时间和环境而变化，因此所有变量（在这种情况下是不同群体的智力）最终将达到相同的值，从而混淆了这一事实。这是不正确的。

“所以有什么问题？看来，如果智商完全取决于遗传，那么今天的黑人的基因比娜娜和皮爪略胜一筹？怎么还有担心呢？”

再次，你的误解。人们关心的是现代人群之间的相对认知能力，而不是与某些古代的、不相关的人群相比的绝对值。世界比过去复杂得多，并且与智力和成功（以及 GDP）直接相关。这里令人担忧的是，与外国竞争对手相比，一个人口智力相对较低的国家无法在未来复杂的高科技经济中有效竞争；这是一个合理的担忧。中国与非洲的成功似乎表明相对情报的重要性。毕竟，中国曾经和非洲一样贫穷，但中国的状况迅速改善，因为该人群具有更高的认知成就遗传潜力。更糟糕的是，你还误导了。没有人声称智商完全是遗传性的，只是说它具有可遗传的重要遗传成分。这毫无疑问是正确的——当然，除非你不同意世界上数百名最好的统计学家和遗传学家的观点。如果是这样，我们需要在第一行联系诺贝尔奖委员会，统计。

*研究：基因在智力中发挥着重要作用。第一项全基因组智力研究证实了关联。*

https://www.webmd.com/parenting/news/20110809/genes-play-big-role-in-intelligence

*在“巨大的成功”中，科学家将 52 个基因与人类智力联系起来*

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/science/52-genes-human-intelligence.html

我可以整天发布链接。

“这一事实往往会让像德比郡这样的种族主义者陷入困境。我还没有听到一个好的答案，我也不指望在这里看到一个好的解释。”

关于诉诸侮辱是最后手段的那句话是什么？

“如果这是真的，那么智商差距可能完全是由对技术的接触或兴趣造成的。这并不是遗传论的胜利。”

如何定义“对技术的兴趣”？看起来就像一个模糊的抓包，像你这样的人可以用它来借口任何事情。此外，像往常一样，你的断言是完全错误的。在欧洲进行的一项研究表明，随着智能手机等技术的普及，智商会下降，因此技术的普及不可能成为一个巨大的限制因素。当然，智商既有遗传因素，也有环境因素，但你似乎认为这都是环境因素。废话。例如，没有人声称肤色完全是遗传因素，因为欧洲人可以晒黑皮肤，并且黑色素的基本水平与一些非洲人相同，那么当我们许多最好的统计学家都已经证明智力是唯一的环境因素时，你为什么要暗示智力完全是环境因素呢？检查了一下题目，发现不是吗？哦，事实上我们已经发现了大量与教育程度/智力相关的单核苷酸多态性（SNP），因此直接的遗传证据正在出现；这方面还有更多工作要做。

“简而言之，如果你证明种族智力差距的主要证据是智商测试……”

嗯，在生活的几乎各个方面也都取得了成功。我认为用马拉松时间作为运动耐力潜力的良好指标并不夸张。显然，事实证明，马拉松冠军通常具有一些在这项运动中具有优势的基因，而且这种基因因种族和民族而异。我不明白为什么智力会神奇地有所不同。智商测试测量的是至少部分与生俱来的东西。

“毫无疑问，差距已经缩小。”

差距非常大，而且即使有的话，也只是微不足道地缩小了。

“有混合的证据表明差距继续缩小。”

我喜欢你使用“混合证据”的方式。你可能会用更温和的“混合证据”代替“相互矛盾的报告”，以免抹黑自己并支持你的观点。事实上，“混合证据”并不是真正的证据。而且差距非常大。按照目前假定的关闭速度，假设白人智商不继续同步上升，则需要数百年的时间才能关闭。

“它的缩小这一事实很好地证明了环境因素在起作用。”

但这并不能证明智商完全是环境因素造成的，就像你默认的那样。如果它在某种程度上是部分遗传的，那么就有理由询问该性状是否像许多其他遗传性状一样在群体之间存在差异。我认为没有理由不这样做。事实上，从多项双胞胎研究中收集到的大量统计证据以及跨多个大洲的数百篇科学论文中报告的结果以及巨大的累积样本量表明，认知能力至少有 50% 是由遗传决定的。如果我给雏菊多浇一点水，它又长了一英寸，那么如果我继续浇水，期望它能长得像红木那么高，是否合理？

“但没有人知道它们是什么，或者它们是否仍在造成部分或全部剩余差距。”

我们直接测试了各种环境因素的贡献，例如共享环境、幼儿教育、第二语言习得、各种降低智商的疾病和营养获取……事实上，当所有这些因素都存在时，仍然存在差异。在所有群体中都已在很大程度上标准化，这强烈表明遗传成分不易受到这些环境因素的影响。

有可能发现一些我们一直以来以某种方式忽视的环境因素（全国各地以及多个种族群体之间——黑人、白人和亚洲人——甚至多个种族群体——犹太人、外邦人），从而导致当组间标准化时，智商差距完全缩小非常小。

“出于多种原因，这不是一个非常有用的类比。首先，高度非常容易测量。”

事实上，某些东西易于测量，因此易于量化（或限定），因此很有用。事实证明，人类的身高随着营养的增加而增加。您是否声称身高并不具有有时因群体而异的遗传成分？如果你这样做了，那就错了。同样，没有理由相信智力会因为某种无法解释的原因而神奇地不同。

“智商测试并不衡量智力，因此存在很多潜在的干扰。”

并不真地。这里的要点是，智商测试在大样本量上是有效的，大数定律规定这种干扰将被消除。想象一下，一个学生向他的老师声称，他在本周历史考试中的低分并不能真正衡量他的知识（有可能，但不太可能）。如果我们正在检查整个班级与其他班级相比的平均考试成绩，这也无关紧要，这应该消除对那些确实有知识但不知何故得分较低的异常学生的推论。此外，如果管理得当，智商测试实际上可以测量某种认知能力。

“那么你就会受到混杂的影响——因为身高营养似乎是唯一的影响因素，也许接触环境中的毒素或压力也可能是因素。对于智力，你有营养、毒素、压力——但也有教育、文化兴趣、父母的影响。教育、社会经济地位，或许还有更多。这只是一个更复杂的过程，没有理由相信它的表现与高度相同。”

你只是在这里通过吐出一系列不同的东西来进行干扰。事实上，根据我们现在掌握的知识，没有理由相信它的表现与高度不同。此外，统计学家也不是白痴。他们可以解释混杂因素。

“显然，可以通过改善教育环境来提高黑人智商。如果智商是一个如此重要的指标，那么即使差距主要是遗传因素，这也将是一个起点。”

您提出什么建议？多年来，美国在公共教育和各种项目上投入了大量资金，但收效甚微。如果没有从幼儿期开始教授第二语言的严格计划，这一目标将很难实现。

再说一遍，你们玩什么游戏？这很有趣，因为你不可能像你所做的陈述、提出的问题、创造的印象一样愚蠢……。

即使是一个问题，我也省略了问号，因为我不在乎你们这些家伙是否安萨。哈哈哈哈

看这里……如果我有数百万美元投资于我自己的人民，我就会这么做。

我要去底特律，以最低的价格将所有污水池土地和破旧住房的所有权交给我自己……并购买市长职位。并为人民获得免税地位。

我目前还不知道所有相关的美国法律，但在那里我很快就会知道我需要知道的一切，与官僚机构玩美味的游戏，并拥有获得我想要的东西的权力……。让那些人在城市里自由自在，不用租一段时间大量的免费住房。

我会收集黑人资金来扩大该计划..为了一首歌买下整个水坝城市，让我们看看人们能做什么..会做什么..如果他们能把底特律变成一个繁荣的大都市。我打赌他们可以。我敢打赌，他们所需要的只是一个开始，政府不要干涉他们的事。

我敢打赌，一旦情况变得清晰，黑人的驱动力和繁荣变得明显，州和联邦政府就会采取行动将其全部关闭。

谁将带头负责？
杰夫史崔克
预兆，
通过-TOR
以及这里所有其他声称相信黑人无能的声音。

我敢打赌，十年后，底特律或任何神坝贫民窟城市的黑人都会复兴大坝所在地，并推动它走向繁荣……只要白人不采取行动将其全部杀死。他们不会去联合起来，让人民更加繁荣，他们会去消灭大坝的东西，赶走黑鬼，再次把他们打倒

这就是一直发生的事情……每次大坝时间。白人杀死了华尔街的黑人。每次黑人建造任何水坝时，你都会关闭它或摧毁它......在这个该死的世界的任何地方

我们可以让我们在您的工作中尽情发挥，让您的生活变得成功。但你不会让我们的生活成功。 400年来，你们在全世界范围内全面阻止了我们

也许你们可以愚弄傻瓜，但不能愚弄那些真正了解真实历史的人。

没有一个该死的非洲国家美国被机器人搞砸了，安装了傀儡政府，每次人民都让自己陷入地狱美国入侵/入侵

在妖魔化阿明之后，你又摧毁了索马里、苏丹、乌干达。你终于除掉了穆加贝并安插了那个混蛋南川。你杀了夸梅·恩克鲁姆，啊，还有帕特里斯·卢蒙巴……你粉碎了卡扎菲……一个为他的人民建立了一个伟大的非洲国家的人。

这就是你们一直在做的事情……在整个地球上。在发展他们的国家的过程中，黑人的成功无处不在。你把它们全部粉碎了，并且直到今天还在继续这样做

然后你们这些混蛋来到这里指责黑人，因为你们强加给我们的失败，称我们低劣和无能

我们知道你玩的焦土游戏。这场比赛一直都是显而易见的。但我们迟早会取得胜利……时间比你想象的还要早。我不想让你被打碎..我希望世界上正在发生的一切都进行公开竞争..所有人之间的公开竞争..正常活动中国家之间的公开接触和竞争..没有战争

在这样的公开竞争中，我想看看白人的表现如何……是的，你们所有人以及其他人。打开它，伙计，如果你是上级，那就不用担心了。打开吧！！！！

但永远不要害怕。我们会及时打开它。

不。争论的焦点并不是黑人也这样做。在黑人白人之前就是这么做的。这意味着，这个场景不再是关于黑人皮肤，而是关于白人构建的环境，而是更多关于促进一定数量个体的上述行为的环境。因为当黑人在种植园里时，以及在他们获得自由后的近五十年或更长时间里，正是白人构成了有关功能障碍的大量统计数据。

伦敦的人会告诉你，你的建议绝对是错误的，白人犯罪行为远远超出了维多利亚时代，并且一直存在到今天。

一个又一个城市的白人一直是犯罪行为和功能失调的罪魁祸首——因此无论是意大利人、爱尔兰人、波兰人还是德国人。 。 。白人过去和现在都无法免受功能障碍的影响。不幸的是，黑人无法改变他们的通婚、同化、网络、改变他们的名字、发型、语言的位置，而白人可能会采用这些策略来规避同样的严重障碍。

第一种复杂语言诞生于非洲大陆，所有复杂语言都源于非洲大陆。随着考古学家对殖民言论的挖掘越来越深入，人们越来越清楚地看到，非洲文明具有高度技术性和复杂性，并在整个非洲大陆构建了公民社会。

不，我认为可以肯定的是，北部栖息地的极度不稳定的环境可能没有促进技术发展，但北部人口所拥有的任何能力都是非洲人向北迁移的结果。然而，这需要进行对于此处讨论的问题来说不必要的对话。简单来说就是这样，

初等教育环境中的教师在某一领域拥有学位但在非其专业领域仍具有资格的情况并不少见。任何如此投入的教师不一定是某种多元文化议程的产物，即使是这样，从定义上来说，这并不意味着他们没有资格在所选学位之外的领域进行教学。

修正案：

伦敦的人会告诉你，你的建议绝对是错误的，白人犯罪行为早在维多利亚时代之前就已经存在，并且一直存在到今天。
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我认为我们了解到的是，困扰北方非洲移民的严重不稳定的环境确实迫使他们采取更具创造性的生存策略，反过来又为审美服务了一些目的。毫无疑问，这些环境触发并培养了前非洲人的创造性思维。但这种能力在他们离开北方之前就在他们的祖先中诞生并存在。目前还不清楚究竟是什么力量塑造了幽闭恐怖的城市建筑，其高度是为更多人提供更多空间以及同样的审美艺术品质的主要因素。显然，他们的非洲人民没有这样的倾向，尽管他们有自己复杂的结构。虽然我不知道巴别塔的定位塔到底在哪里。

尽管如此，

它与一个拥有学位的人是否可以在其领域之外以必要的技能进行教学的问题无关，这是一个与肤色和质量相关的问题，减去了上述关联的证据根据我回复的讨论，仍然不受支持。记录很清楚，在英国和美国，我怀疑在其他地方，教师可以而且确实在其学位领域之外进行教学，并且做得很有效——尽管有其他因素。

稻草人和不合逻辑的推论。

这就是所谓的“通讯”。

过去，大学理事会/ETS 在一些科目中进行了成绩测试，以衡量特定知识。我们很少有人参加，因为大学一般不使用它们。我参加过的所有 SAT、LSAT、GMAT、ASVAB 和 GRE 考试都是比较专业的 IQ 测试，可能包含少量特定知识成分。其中一些（如果不是全部的话）已被门萨接受或至少被门萨接受。

那么如果他没有毒死自己的话，他就会永远活下去（在这个地球上）？

现在我承认我没有阅读整篇文章，但你是说你同意Quantavious可能比你的祖父母更聪明吗？

谢谢，迈克。我想知道什么时候的歌词 红色巴切塔 将成为现实：

让这家伙休息一下吧，罗祖莫娃小姐。微积分的发明/发现是否敲响了警钟？ （当然他得到了小利普尼茨的一些帮助。）。他对对流传热——牛顿冷却定律的参与怎么样？

艾萨克·牛顿是数学和科学方面的杰出天才。那是双A艾萨克牛顿——我对你所写的这个人不太了解，单A艾萨克牛顿，当然。

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你引用的结果在我的大城市几乎是相同的，那里黑人占人口的三分之一。我确信美国和全世界的结果都是一样的。

恕我直言，智商 75% 是先天因素，25% 是后天因素。如果一个孩子被锁在壁橱里并喂食糖苏打水和糖果，他的智商将永远无法充分发挥潜力。他的身高也永远无法充分发挥潜力。在美国，营养不是问题，大多数儿童都吃得过多。甚至含糖早餐食品也是强化的。美洲的非洲人已经在这里生活了很多代，是世界上吃得最饱的群体。几乎每个角落都有炸鸡店。当然，这导致了他们的肥胖。是的，他们在这里吃得太多了。

在美国，黑人的智商潜力已得到充分发挥。结果很惨淡。

让我们废除平权行动。

让我们摆脱平权行动

并做什么？

还有更多愤怒的失业贫困黑人吗？

由于各种原因，这不是一个非常有用的类比。

让我们讨论一下这些原因。

首先，高度非常容易测量。 当您测量高度时，这就是您正在测量的。 智商测试不衡量智力，因此有很多潜在的干扰。

一个很好的观点是，“智商测试不能测量智力”，更像是“无法像尺子测量身高一样轻松、精确地测量智力”。我相信测量智商的相对困难（以及遗传力的微小差异）是 GWAS 还没有足够的能力来“解决”智商但基本上解决了身高的加性 SNP 组成部分的原因。但我认为一个世纪的心理测量学在测量智力的智商测试方面做得不错，并且有大量证据支持这一立场。

然后你会有混杂的影响——因为身高营养似乎是唯一的，也许暴露于环境中的毒素或压力也可能是因素。. ，社会经济地位，也许还有更多。

另一个好点。 但是根据最好的数据，我们得到的身高、智商和智商差距的遗传力都是 0.8 级的。 这意味着可控环境正在与环境、错误等不可控因素进行斗争，以解释剩余 20% 的结果部分。

因此，您描述的其他因素似乎比遗传因素的影响要小。 您的其他因素使类比复杂化并受到限制，但绝不会使它无效。

这只是一个更复杂的过程，没有理由相信它的行为与高度相同。

身高和智商似乎具有相似的遗传力和多基因性程度。 他们不会表现 究竟 相同，但我认为这个类比作为近似值是相当合理的。我欢迎更好的想法，但身高是目前研究得最好的多基因特征，所以这就是我使用的。它也恰好比 IQ 争议少得多。 ）在讨论为欧洲人创建的身高多基因评分为何不适用于非洲人时，这很有用。通常的影响（例如侏儒身高）似乎低估了差异（可能是通过不同的连锁不平衡和更多样化的非洲人口中的额外因果位点）。

再一次，比我通常得到的更好（实际上提出有效观点而没有大量虚假修辞和人身攻击）的回应。 谢谢你。

我也认为很明显种族差距的一部分是遗传

我认为这只是一种猜测。

这是基于我们拥有的最佳数据的科学（考虑到该主题的第三轨性质，这远没有我想要的那么好）。 在这里回顾太长了，但我上面提到的 Jensen 和 Rushton 的文章是一个好的开始。 如果您对此（以及其他证据和研究）进行认真的讨论，我们可以拥有它。

你的回答是合理的，但你似乎并不认为智商差距只能是遗传性的。

正确的。 我试图理解现实。 您是否认为智商差距只是环境因素？ 我认为这与相反的情况一样不合理。 根据我的经验，有很多人相信这一点，但很少有人真正相信智商差距完全是遗传的。 许多人几乎包括整个美国媒体、学术界和政治阶层。 但请记住，我所看到的对遗传成分进行任何严格量化的唯一尝试是上面 PS 中 0.8 遗传力的 Jensen 和 Rushton 数字。 这与身高的遗传性相同。 值得思考。 我目前的个人估计是 50/50，直到有更多证据出现。

真正的问题是，为什么在 Unz Review 读者的狭隘政治议程之外，其中任何一项都很重要。 显然，通过改善教育环境可以提高黑人智商。 如果智商是一个如此重要的指标，那么即使差距主要是遗传的，那也将是一个起点。

因为它轮流不同的影响（任何 代表性的差异是由白人种族主义造成的），这实际上是血腥诽谤。另一个问题是，恕我直言，帮助黑人环保的一些最佳方法是改善黑人文化（例如，聪明就是表现得白人）和家庭结构。这当然让我“种族歧视”！因此，我们竭尽全力消除城市中最后 ppb 的铅，并试图改善学校而不改善学生。正如过去五十年来一再证明的那样，这注定会失败。

为了有效地解决问题，重要的是首先要了解它。

对于任何对符合门萨资格的测试和分数列表感兴趣的人（智商 > 约 130），请参阅
https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/

让真相用简洁的废话来回应 1800 字的深思熟虑的评论。

请记住，平均值并不一定能说明很多关于个人的信息。

对于那些还没有到一定年龄的人来说，《灰姑娘倒下》是 70 年代众多灾难电影之一。

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Lady_Down

另请参阅 HL Mencken 的美国水星号发生了什么。一旦出版物变得无关紧要，它们就会悲惨地死去。

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Mercury#Antisemitic_and_racist_takeover

“它曾经是一份非常好的报纸。”就像当时的大多数报纸一样，它曾经是一份由订户支持的报纸。我记得每天花 1 美元或更多的钱买一份报纸。今天，《泰晤士报》得到了广告商的支持。就像《Menchen》的出版物一样，它的读者死了，而且没有被取代。例如，根据过去的表现，远洛克威高中可能是同等贵族奖的冠军，包括但不限于理查德·费曼， https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Rockaway_High_School#Notable_alumni 。那些日子。

完全代表了常见的白人病态..种族主义和暴力，对上帝和自然撒尿，无法与任何事物和任何人和谐相处..对女性的仇恨和暴力……

……那么我们就可以从你的不良品质开始……

这类人得不到平权行动的帮助。那些想要取得一定程度成功的人会得到平权行动的帮助。 “对失业的赤贫黑人感到愤怒”通常不具备利用平权行动的技能或学位。

平权行动是一项政府计划，旨在阻止 60 年代和 70 年代的黑人大学毕业生创办竞争性企业，并让他们为“Duh Man”创造收入而感到幸运。

这个人在说科学，但我不是来聊天板看书的。 我有这方面的书。

那么Quantavious“据称”比你的祖父母更聪明吗？

这个人在说科学，但我不是来聊天板看书的。 我有这方面的书。

我们中的一些人在这个聊天板上寻找比书籍更丰富的信息。也只是让它成为一种有趣的消遣。我喜欢这两个方面。而且你至少倾向于幽默而不是令人讨厌（我希望你意识到我之前的评论也是以同样的方式表达的）。

那么Quantavious“据称”比你的祖父母更聪明吗？

不太可能。你知道，智商是可以遗传的。弗林效应并没有那么大。我认为至少我的祖父母之一比我聪明。

德比郡的华裔妻子和女儿投票给了奥布默。他可能会感到惊讶，就像猜测谁会来吃他女儿的晚餐一样。

我想让你重复一下你在大学学习中认识的黑人科学家和数学家的名字，Jen。在此线程上列出它们。如果你不这样做，那么你就和 RT English 上的骗子一样，而且很可能仍然如此。

瓦勒·杜兰蒂和其他共产主义者为“犹太时报”工作……并声称乌克兰没有强迫性的大规模饥饿，同时赞扬共产主义的“奇迹”。就我而言，“犹太时报”从来都不诚实……

21 年 2013 月 XNUMX 日 《延长童年》，约翰·泰勒·加托 (John Taylor Gatto)

基于约翰·泰勒·加托 (John Taylor Gatto) 的著作《美国教育的地下历史》的一系列短视频的第七部分。

嗯，从我对 FE 的理解来看，他/她必须比你聪明 30 分才能持平。我理解正确吗？

我不太确定我是否明白你的意思，但我在想 FE 为 15 点（可能涉及的给定时间范围较少），W/B 平均差异为 15 点。我将其解释为意味着 Q 必须在 15 FE 点 + 15 点模糊点内才能给出合理的机会。然后假设 Q 接近黑色平均值，他甚至还没有接近。你会有更好的机会。

关于 FE From 的一点说明 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Rise_in_IQ

一些研究发现弗林效应的收益特别集中在分布的低端。 例如，Teasdale 和 Owen (1989) 发现该效应主要减少了低端分数的数量，导致中等高分的数量增加，而非常高的分数没有增加。 [15] 在另一项研究中，对两个西班牙儿童的大样本进行了30年的评估。 智商分布的比较表明，测试中的平均智商得分提高了9.7点（弗林效应），收益集中在分布的下半部分，而上半部分则可忽略不计，随着个人的智商增加。 [16] 一些研究发现，智商高者的Flynn效应反而降低。[17] [13]

这表明我和我的祖父母可能并没有那么不同，即使 FE 使 Q 的机会比我最初的估计更差。

如果您清除浏览历史记录，您可以阅读更多内容。正如人们所预料的那样，对故事的评论虽然主要是左翼自由主义，但也可以采取多种观点。

《精英共产主义》是一场空白的婴儿潮一代骗局。与他争论就像与尚未意识到自己已经灭绝的渡渡鸟争论一样。

谢谢你的笑声。

Derb 收集了最奇怪的恶毒评论者……如果你不喜欢 Derb 为什么要读他的东西？除非你喜欢骂人。很多女人都是这样的……

这或许表明，弗林效应并不意味着智力的“提高”，而是工人阶级因营养、卫生、医疗和教育等外部环境的改善而真正发挥潜力的体现。随着非洲、印度和第三世界其他地区局势的改善，我们可能会期待那里也会出现“弗林效应”。如果智商80%是遗传，20%是环境，那么环境的改善确实可以提高智商，但只能达到一定的遗传决定的最大值。经过这样的环境改善后，“弗林效应”就会停止。

我基本上同意你的观点，但我认为习得的测试式思维也发挥了一定的作用。对于智商较低的人来说可能也是最有效的。

如果智商80%是遗传因素，20%是环境因素

我有时会这样说话，但这是一种危险的思考方式。遗传力为 0.8 意味着 80% 的群体内差异来自遗传学。但一般来说，种群内的环境变异小于种群间（或代际间）的环境变异。

因此，即使西方人群的智商遗传力约为 0.8，智商的增长也可能比非洲可能出现的要大得多，因为西方和非洲之间的环境差异比西方群体之间的环境差异大得多。不过，我不确定这些成果还剩下多少，与过去几十年已经取得的成果相比还有多少。对于非洲以外的世界大部分地区来说，弗林效应（以及相应的身高趋势）似乎已经基本停止。

对遗传潜力进行准确评估的一件事是估计特定人群可以在多大程度上改善环境。

你把话放到我嘴里……
自从我上一篇文章以来，我已经完成了这个线程。
当我看到这个和其他人时，我正准备去睡觉并路过
你们很有趣，但我已经没有时间了，很讨厌这里的陪伴

每代15分。

如果你采用乌图的数据，那么就会有一些更普遍的结果（种族/大陆）。

乌图的人物：

普渡数学系教师人数

中国33
27 American（白色）
6德国
3 美国人（犹太人）
3南亚
3罗马尼亚
3 南美洲/西班牙
2美式（黑色）
2匈牙利
2意大利
法国1
1波兰
1保加利亚
1亚美尼亚
1伊朗
1韩国
1日本

按种族/大陆划分的教师人数

46 欧洲（美国白27 + 西欧9 + 东欧7 + 南美3）
35 东北亚（中国 33 + 韩国 1 + 日本 1）
3 南亚（印度/巴基斯坦）
3 犹太人
2 非洲人
2 西亚（亚美尼亚 1 + 伊朗 1）

这似乎是高水平心理能力的公平代表，尽管可能会出现一些扭曲：

– 中国人对在美国接受 STEM 教育的偏好夸大了他们的数字。
– 俄罗斯在当地重视 STEM（并避开美国）的政策降低了欧洲的数字。
– 犹太人在美国金融/银行业的特殊机会减少了他们的数量。

话虽如此，非洲人在体育活动、体育运动和流行音乐方面领先，但在暴力和社会功能障碍方面落后。

欧洲人的智力很高，但民族团结却无望。

亚洲人的智力（和种族团结）很高，但男性对所有种族女性的身体吸引力却垫底。

南美洲原住民（非欧洲人）似乎没有出现在任何地方。

老老实实，你就是一个恶毒老太太的完美例子。

你无法面对事实。你无法接受我指出德比郡的虚伪和堕落这一事实。再说一遍，这是因为你是亚洲人。

当我第一次开始阅读德比郡时，我只是假设他娶了某种西方女人。他关于西方的著作很好。后来我了解了他的中国妻子和家人。这改变了一切。他写了一篇文章说亚洲人比白人聪明。他们不是。 https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

正如我一直指出的那样，当一个外邦的西方男性感染亚洲黄热病时，它就会变成黄热病艾滋病，他试图将这种致命的疾病传染给西方。

几位评论员感谢我对德比郡的报道。

你是问题所在。

如果智商80%是遗传，20%是环境，那么环境的改善确实可以提高智商，但只能达到一定的遗传决定的最大值。

我还没有看到地球上有任何一个“环境”计划能够可靠地提高真实智商，甚至可以提高五个点。这并不是因为缺乏尝试，因为在此过程中可能会赚到数不清的数十亿美元。

我们 不能 我们只使用了 80% 的大脑，直到有人“解锁”其余部分。

“谈论内战和街头斗殴是幼稚的。我们需要建造。”

噢，盲目乐观，盲目乐观！ “我们需要建造”？！

在曾经是美国的未来世界中，你是否觉得（因为它肯定没有想到！！）我们的征服者和毁灭者将允许我们为自己保留任何形式的飞地或保留地！？黑人不是已经多次宣称和表明，他们将跟随我们到地球的尽头，居住在我们和我们的建筑附近或远离我们的地方吗？！

“我们需要自己的商业协会、社区团体、学校（或者至少是让我们的孩子了解他们的传统的项目）、政治组织，甚至民族教堂等。”

我们拥有并建造了这些，但它们却遭到了入侵和摧毁；我们又搬家了，一切又重新开始了——却被入侵和摧毁了！哪个白人商业协会仍然被允许在这个星球上的任何地方存在？！社区团体？学校——如果这些该死的入侵者住得不够近的话，他们就会用巴士来学校！白人教堂？！你认为任何等级制度都会允许这种情况发生吗？！白人国会核心小组？拉白拉扎？！全国少数白人进步协会？！

不，这将是战争。血与火与死亡。只有当我们设法将他们赶走——并且让他们远离——我们才会拥有“我们自己的商业协会、社区团体、学校（或者至少是让我们的孩子了解他们的传统的项目）” 、政治组织，甚至民族教会等。”醒来！遇见你的敌人！

每代15分。

感谢您的澄清。

在我看来，效果不太可能那么大。另请参阅我关于它的观点主要集中在低端。

接下来的问题是这是否足以赶上Q。 ; ）

我还没有看到地球上有任何一个“环境”计划能够可靠地提高真实智商，甚至可以提高五个点。这并不是因为缺乏尝试，因为在此过程中可能会赚到数不清的数十亿美元。

一些重要的观点。
– 大多数研究都是针对最近的西方人群进行的，那里弗林效应已基本达到顶峰。在非洲尝试同样的方法可能会产生不同的结果。
– 让人们做出有目的的改变是很困难的。代际变化的幅度可能比我们有意做的任何事情都要大得多。即使在非洲。在尚未实行八年级义务教育的地方，这种义务教育可能会很接近。与预防人群中普遍存在的严重营养缺乏症相同。

我同意，一旦人口达到一定的基线（例如基础教育、没有碘等重大营养缺乏症），干预措施就不太可能产生太大影响。在我看来，美国现在就属于这一类。

我认识一位来自密西西比州的黑人高中数学老师。不过他没有称之为“数学”，而是称之为“maff”。严重地。他还告诉我，在大学期间，他强奸了他 13 岁的表弟。严重地。

他在奥马哈南部的布莱恩高中任教。他的名字叫约翰什么的，但我不记得他的姓氏了（那是将近 40 年前的事了。）

营养不是问题——除了彻底中毒或灾难性的器官衰竭、婴儿营养不良程度之外。大多数非洲国家没有挨饿，不挨饿的程度与整个非洲大陆的平均智商无关。此外，韩国队的平均得分似乎相同，均为 106 分。我们是否有任何可靠的例子表明人们因饥饿而永久丧失智商？我们有科学认可的提高智商的饮食吗？不？

教育角度也很脆弱，因为良好的智商测试——尤其是在国际比较方面——必须消除文化和教育的影响。再次：朝鲜和韩国得分相同。

此外，韩国队的平均得分似乎相同，均为 106 分。

对此存在一些分歧。大卫·贝克尔的数据库是我所知道的国家智商的最佳来源： https://www.researchgate.net/project/Worlds-IQ

以下是他的电子表格中 FAV 表的摘录（仅包含这两个条目的列）：

国家 QNW+SAS+GEO L&V02+GEO L&V12+GEO IQ(L&V12)-NIQ R
PRK Korea, North 98.82 104.00 104.60 5.78 99.89
KOR 韩国南部 102.35 106.00 104.60 2.25 104.96

说过：
“还有更多愤怒的失业贫困黑人吗？”

如果他们不再那么懒惰，这种情况就不会发生。

如果他们的行为（最初使他们“失业和贫困”）不再有效，他们就会改变它。

谢谢。

对此存在一些分歧。

当然，我的来源不同，但即使是你的也非常接近，为 3.5 分。当我有机会时，我会检查该文件（看看他们是否使用相同/相似的测试方法），但当我们考虑到两个韩国在饥饿和教育方面都非常不同时，名义差距很小。据我所知，朝鲜的大规模饥饿早已结束，但情况十分严峻，对智商的影响要么很小，要么根本不存在。

您同意/不同意我的其他观点吗？

您同意/不同意我的其他观点吗？

我认为你有点夸大了它们，但还不足以值得争论。尤其是在缺乏比我们更好的数据（例如非洲的条件和智商）的情况下。我认为我们的观点大致相同。感谢您进行有趣的对话。

你（我可以看出，你是白人）用所有这些百分比（0.7之类的）来歧视我（我是黑人）。

这就是白话。我忽略它。我知道你想愚弄我。

当然，当其他一切都失败时，就让它变得个性化。

我使用的绰号没有任何政治派别。

白板理论的进步最为显着，但约翰·洛克并没有忽视其生物学基础。它所说的是对整个世界的理解是由出生后的经历决定的。

它并不是像您和其他人为了推进“稻草论证”而解释的那样的白板。

同样。

您是否认为智商差距只是环境因素？ 我认为这与相反的情况一样不合理。

我对此持不可知论。 这当然是可能的。 环境可能只覆盖了一半的差距。 这会让你大吃一惊——但有可能黑人在基因上比白人更聪明，而且环境对智商的影响比观察到的差距还要大。 这不太可能，但鉴于所有的不确定性，根本不能排除 ti。 （见鬼，也有可能真正的差距实际上比观察到的差距更大。）

但是根据最好的数据，我们得到的身高、智商和智商差距的遗传力都是 0.8 级的。 这意味着可控环境正在与环境、错误等不可控因素进行斗争，以解释剩余 20% 的结果部分。

你在这里滥用百分比。 如果身高 80% 是可遗传的，但父母和孩子都受到相同的环境影响，那么这并不能告诉我们什么可能导致与平均人口的任何差异。 遗传主义者经常犯这个错误。

因为它将完全不同的影响（代表的任何差异都是由白人种族主义造成的）变成了真正的血腥诽谤。

你让你的意识形态在这里扭曲现实。 白人种族主义不是“血腥诽谤”——几个世纪以来，它一直是这片土地的事实上的法律。 声称所有深沉的种族伤口都已愈合，一切都是那么的不现实。 去任何 90% 的黑人学校，并将其与 90% 的白人学校进行比较。 看看资源，基础设施。 或者看看歧视的客观衡量标准。 以下是关于准予保释时的种族偏见：

https://www.princeton.edu/~wdobbie/files/racialbias.pdf

（请注意，在很多这样的案例中，偏见的结果并不是种族敌意，而是种族刻板印象。在这个具体的例子中，黑人法官和白人法官一样有可能表现出偏见。这个结果怎么会是被描述为“反白”？）

在就业、警务、心理健康评估、心脏治疗等方面还有许多其他研究。

正如过去五十年反复证明的那样，这注定要失败。

失败？ 至少黑人学生的智商增长与白人学生相同。 充其量他们已经显着缩小了差距。 尽管教育资源较差，家庭生活破裂，暴力事件频发，但所有这一切都发生了。

好的。浏览器崩溃毁掉了我给你写的很长的回复。我们稍后会看看我是否有动力重现它，但这里是 TLDR 版本。

等黑人社区开始对黑人犯罪、黑人家庭地位问题、黑人反教育行为（比如“聪明就是表现白人”和让教室变得不适宜居住）等承担责任之后再说。

至少愿意承认，作为一个群体，黑人有代理权，应该对自己的行为和由此产生的结果承担一定的责任。 如果白人无缘无故如此种族主义，那么为什么亚洲人似乎没有这些问题？

由于黑人每天都担任陪审团成员并把黑人送进监狱，有时甚至连主席——

黑人似乎非常愿意为他们的社区承担责任。就像犯罪活动高于“正常”水平的社区中的白人一样。

至于教育，你可能需要做一下黑人与白人大学入学率的比较。
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历史也可能是一个助手，历史表明，当黑人社区请求警方援助时，他们通常会被拒绝，因此，在全国范围内形成了黑人社区可能持有的种族隔离态度——一种对警察的敌意。当我年轻时为警察辩护时，我一直感到失望，因为我发现了一段关于黑人人口的非常伪劣的历史。

无知和短视是幸福。

“如果白人无缘无故地如此种族主义，那么为什么亚洲人似乎没有这些问题呢？”

嗯嗯。 。 。让我看看 。 。 。难以回答的问题 。 。 。嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯嗯

因为白人和黄种人对黑人的歧视过去和现在仍然是基于他们是人类的一个亚种，这一点从他们的肤色就可以看出。亚洲人非常聪明，当他们告诉亚洲人黑人有尾巴时，他们实际上是白人。

但这是一个非常非常非常非常难的问题。尽管我毫不怀疑，我的“过时”将使这一事实过时，因为那些对像精英通讯公司这样简单的东西有唯一线性把握的人会被渲染为某种虚假/不正确的政治比喻。

黄色种族主义？

你是说洛杉矶贫民区的韩国人吗？

我想我会让你做一些功课，解释为什么我提到黑人和亚洲人。但韩裔美国公民并不是从与黑人的交往中得出他们对黑人的看法。

我认为政治是显而易见的。

至于教育，你可能需要做一下黑人与白人大学入学率的比较。

你是什​​么意思？黑人的受教育程度全面低于非西班牙裔白人。统计数据见表1 https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/p20-578.pdf
尽管我对西班牙裔黑人的表现比西班牙裔黑人好得多感到惊讶。

如果你想就黑人大学入学率进行认真的讨论，那就更明确地表达出来，并用数据来支持。

由于黑人每天都担任陪审团成员并把黑人送进监狱，有时甚至连主席——
黑人似乎非常愿意为他们的社区承担责任。

对他们有好处。我更多地思考了一些例子，比如迈克尔·布朗案中所有突然出现的骗子。还有媒体（更不用说像你这样的人了），他们坚持把所有黑人的缺点归咎于 YT。对黑人家庭的状况（例如结婚率和单亲母亲率）一无所知。更不用说任何关于犯罪是个人选择的讨论了。这不是 YouTube 从外部强加的。

看看，看看结果。如果你认为黑人在对黑人淫秽犯罪率和对内城课堂条件的嘲讽中所扮演的角色方面做得很好，那么我认为你离现实太远了，尝试与他人讨论这个问题是没有用的。你。

因为白人和黄种人对黑人的歧视过去和现在仍然是基于他们是人类的一个亚种，这一点从他们的肤色就可以看出。

相信你确切地知道为什么其他人会做他们所做的事情，一定会令人感到欣慰。

至少考虑一下这样一种可能性：对黑人的大部分反应是基于他们群体中许多人的不良行为。我为那些陷入其中的好人感到遗憾。现在，如果只有那些好人能帮助解决问题，而不是仅仅指责 YT 就好了。

我已经多次介绍过各种数据集，这里是一个。

https://blackdemographics.com/education-2/education/

http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/47_four-year_collegedegrees.html

在我看来，解决隔离问题需要一些时间，但从现实来看，你的论点只是无稽之谈。

就像一个孩子声称某人领先一步是因为他们绊倒了旁边的跑步者。情况比这更糟糕，但它说明了这一点。记录表明，在上述环境中，拥有同样雄心、不受阻碍的黑人将和白人一样过得好。

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之前已经剖析过犯罪数字，我不想一次又一次地重做这件事。 。 。正如我指出的短视，即迈克尔·布朗案例，你过度地将一个非常小且独特的人口概括为整个人口 -

即使你所引用的细节也不能用来准确描述大多数黑人。我不知道“干得好”是什么意思，问题是黑人是否以与白人相同的方式与其他黑人交往，我认为很明显他们是这样做的。天哪，我们还在讨论黑人特有的陈腐的内城犯罪吗——这已经被详细讨论过——开始一个新的讨论，我重申同样的分析是不必要的

将各种问题混为一谈是行不通的。
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你对我如何称呼美国黑人的评论是完全错误的。在陈述显而易见的事实时，我不会为犯罪行为、非婚生等行为找借口。你只是不愿意放弃你关于天生黑人的陈词滥调，去追求更现实的东西，比如环境等。这就是我的反驳– 一些遗传劣势。我无法帮助你或任何其他想要驳回历史记录的人。

请向我展示这两个教育链接支持您的原始观点的一个地方。与大多数人不同，我实际上会检查链接。

黑人大学入学率与白人相比。

我看到的唯一接近解决反驳它的问题（或者你认为落后 10 个百分点是一件好事吗？）：

我提供的人口普查链接非常清楚地显示了多个教育级别的黑白比较。

PS 请至少了解一下你和你的区别。读一段时间后就会感到痛苦。

PPS 真正让我害怕的是，我认为你真的相信你的合理化可以为黑人的不良行为开脱。

我认为你会看到成就的不断提高——这不是静态的，也很难反映出某些与生俱来的自卑特征。这是我的中心点。我没有表明我的原始观点是什么。你归咎于我没有提出的建议。事实上，我注意到，黑人要达到或超过同样的水平还需要一段时间。我不确定他们是否会这样做，或者是否需要这样做才能证明我的观点。

你可以认为我支持某种形式的功能障碍，但你找不到任何支持这种观点的东西。我以现实为依据：

1. 历史很重要

2. 黑色皮肤本质上并不是遗传劣势的表现

我对教育的最初观点是进行比较并注意到增长。我过去提交的数据表明，与白人相比，黑人在获得高中后教育甚至学士学位后更具代表性。

笑。我一如既往地对我糟糕的校对负全部责任。你的语法注释对我来说没问题。虽然我应该更好地校对工作——

但除此之外，我认为我的立场已经安排得很好。我不会因为没有黑皮肤而道歉，这表明我天生自卑——无论我是否与他们的“a”或“you're”被错误地用来代替“your”数千次混淆。

很难反映出某种与生俱来的自卑特征。

1.我并没有争论这一点。我在争论不良行为。
2. 不确定毕业率持续 >= 9% 的差距意味着什么。即使两个比率大致平行增长。

我没有表明我的原始观点是什么。

我注意到。这是让你的评论不值得回应的一个重要原因。

我知道我是一个语法纳粹分子很烦人，但你的写作经常是乱码，我很难弄清楚你的意思。尽管您没有像上面讨论的那样明确地表达您的观点，也许更容易解释这一点。

你知道你完全没有解决我的观点，对吧？我一直关注黑人的不良行为以及黑人社区未能为此承担责任。

我并不是说你支持功能障碍。我的意思是，你和大多数其他黑人始终没有谈论这个问题，最好的解决方案是让最糟糕的黑人改变他们的行为。如果表现较好的黑人甚至不承认存在问题，而个人有代理权和责任来处理这个问题，那么这种情况就永远不会发生。

在我儿子位于东伦敦的小学里，一个讲葡萄牙语的新生遇到了问题。她妈妈让西班牙语老师在需要交流的时候用西班牙语和她说话，她会得到一些。老师回答说她实际上不会说西班牙语。她会唱西班牙语歌曲（这是开始学习新语言的好方法），但不会自己造句。

我该如何回应我现在看到的……尖锐、尖锐的评论。然而，一个人不一定要恶毒、变性、女性化或以其他方式妥协才能对任何话题和问题发表评论。

问题是存在的，无论它来自哪里、来自谁，如果有人有相关的言论，可能有助于提高清晰度……有人可以自由地说出来。

我的意思是德布，正如你所说的，他可能是一种冲动，但他仍然可以引发良好的澄清辩论。我和我的贡献实在是太恶毒了。我不认为我在这里看到的任何评论都是恶毒的

笑是因为这是我的简短回答。

我花了一些时间思考你的评论。我很满意我实际上已经回答了你们所有的问题，尽管事实上你们不喜欢这些答案。

不，你的把戏被拒绝了。你注意到黑人在教育方面的成就，我表示你应该看看那段历史。如果你认为你不知道重点是什么，你应该问为什么。当追问此事时。我做了两个回应（至少2个）。

1. 他们表明黑人确实随着时间的推移而增加

2.这种差异符合增长收益经济作为中学后教育的一个重要因素的历史趋势。

为了应对持续的差距，无需检查您的数字，就可以得出与人口规模一致的数字。如果黑人实际上占总人口的 13% 至 14%，那么尽管人口数量有所增加，但相似的差距可能仍然存在，这并不是一个巨大的飞跃。

不，差距有一定的意义。我想我们可能会争论什么。不，你在所谓的黑人行为问题上跳舞。您正在链接两个不同的问题。教育是一个问题，而你普遍的“不良行为”则是另一个问题。问题是为什么会出现上述行为，在这里您注意到了另一个有关引人注目的案例的一般情况，它并没有反映相关人群。你的困惑不是因为乱码，你的困惑很可能源于对我的立场所表明的内容做出假设——比如完全缺乏关于肤色的知识，你不是基于任何实际知识而是基于立场本身——这是无关紧要的进行讨论。

请注意与差距、收入的其他相似之处。进入大学确实需要相当大的收入，而且这种差距在很大程度上仍然存在，但请注意，我在另一篇参考文献中提到，黑人的教育程度为黑皮肤人口带来了回报，甚至比白人的回报还要多在某些地区。

我之前直接回答过你的观点。包括找出你的参考文献以及它们没有反映整个社区的情况。你试图将其个人化而不是数据化，从而避免了教育问题。此外，我之前已经详细讨论过犯罪行为问题，并表示我不会再这样做。从数字来看，统计数据并不能反映“不良行为”的一般倾向。它们确实表明，正如我一贯的立场一样，某些环境往往会由于各种原因而出现更多的功能障碍，并且无论任何人的肤色如何，这些功能障碍都会以更高的比例存在——对于那些环境，无论肤色如何。我不仅回答了这些问题。我已经足够仁慈地超越了他们。黑人社区不对所有黑人负责，就像白人不对所有白人负责一样。对于一个社区、一个当地人来说，这可能是一个问题，但芝加哥的黑人比其他任何肤色的人都对纽约市的黑人负有更多的责任，这一点并没有多大的空间。

但我根本不认为整个黑人社区有任何支持白人、黑人或其他任何人的任何程度的异常行为。我没有听到与我交流的黑人鼓吹犯罪活动或行为。

如果你认真地担心你所说的缺乏面临某种情况的黑人，那么你就会知道这根本就是错误的。记录再次非常清楚。黑人是“堵塞的障碍”，充满了面对你提到的每个问题。但与寻找答案相反，你错误地描述了网站上的人或你在谈话中遇到的人的反应——我不想告诉你这个消息——你的结论不仅基于对反应性质的歪曲，而且基于一个非常样本量小。

也许你是众多否认、妄想和忽视美国黑人文化不相容的白人中的一员？联邦调查局的犯罪统计数据不是你现在的朋友。在洛杉矶拥有商店的韩国人刚刚观看了《一个国家的诞生》，就得出了他们的结论。正确的？

韩国问题

为什么韩国店主没有受到所谓的强效可卡因流行病的影响，这种流行病肆虐了黑人贫民窟，因为他们当时也在贫民窟里？

黑人和白人一样有不同的文化习俗。

多次处理犯罪数据。我不会再这样做了。我只是不想担心 3-5% 的人，我与他们的接触很少，这取决于他们住在哪里，或者与谁交往，无论是黑人还是黑人。

虽然我和黑人之间存在一些问题。在我的领域里，白人和棕色人种的盗窃和犯罪行为更多。

我在混合社区的经验是，志同道合的人相处得很好（兼容性），无论肤色如何

 “[纽约时报]曾经是一份非常好的报纸。 ”
假新闻，从来都不是。

美国新纳粹分子读的是 DS，而不是 NR。自从他们解雇了你之后，不知道谁读过 NR。

黑人在1970年代及以后成为底特律的一个问题。
我能够毫不费力地维护自己的财产，定期对房屋（外部）进行粉刷，修剪草坪，并对所有房主进行灌木丛修剪后的日常维护。
与我的黑人“邻居”（他们没有维持自己的财产）对比我的维护工作和结果。 您会看到，在1970年代，HUD制定了“特殊计划”，将黑人搬入独户房屋，而不要求这些黑人拥有“游戏中的皮肤”。
当然，由于是白人，我没有资格参加任何这些课程。
韦恩州立大学（Wayne State University）那些通俗的“城市研究”人总是为黑人，他们无能为力以及缺乏“日常维护”的借口。 他们的主要借口是“房屋过旧”…
在几乎每个街区，无力搬走STILL的白人（大多数是波兰老人）都保留了自己的房屋，包括新鲜割草，维护良好的外墙等，尽管他们的房屋与黑人拥有的房屋一样“古老”。 无论您在底特律的何处，都可以始终知道白人的住处。 修剪整齐的草坪和保养良好的房屋是常态。
经过多次入室行窃，警察很少或没有回应，我终于离开了底特律。 警察知道罪犯是谁，但对此却什么也没做。 您会看到，黑人被“压迫”并且“不可触摸”。
另一个情况是我们白人所忍受的“代码执行”骚扰。 我们一直使用城市提供的垃圾箱（每两个住所一个）。 我们的黑人“邻居”懒得把垃圾丢进容器，把垃圾丢到小巷里。 猜猜谁多次因“垃圾处理不当”而被罚单？ 不是黑人不当地处理了垃圾，而是我们白人。 好像他们（黑市政府）要我们搬家一样……
不，旧的自由派借口认为贫困是毁灭底特律的重要手段，这是完全错误的。
人们所要做的就是询问派对（酒类）商店老板为什么他们要忍受黑人这样的人。底特律的“贫民窟”曾经（现在仍然）是一个酒类、彩票和垃圾食品的“金矿”。我在底特律长大，亲眼目睹了白人的边缘化和黑人的破坏。
这是文化，而不是“贫穷”。

西弗吉尼亚州是该国最贫穷和最白人的州之一。然而，他们的凶杀率低于美国平均水平。

你能屠杀所有不值得活下去的人并把他们赶走吗？谢谢。