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从武汉初次爆发之日起,我每天都仔细观察冠状病毒在中国乃至国外的传播和进展,并收集了每个地点的尽可能多的数据。 到2020年20,000月下旬,中国已经连续数周无感染,关注的焦点转向了进口病例的鉴定和检疫。 同时,美国再次成为“世界领导者”,这次是病毒感染和死亡,每天产生30,000至1,000新病例,每天约有XNUMX人死亡。 当时,美国对中国成功遏制该病毒的敌意显而易见,许多令人讨厌的媒体文章和白宫指控中国的虚假统计数据,并指责中国“向美国传播了该病毒”。 美国有线电视新闻网 声明说:“随着国外感染和死亡人数激增,中国官方媒体反复吹捧中国遏制该病毒的有效措施,将其成功与西方政府,尤其是美国的失败相提并论。”[1]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-...x.html 显然,对中国的成功和美国的失败充满了惊讶和痛苦,这在一层一层的不满中充满了不满情绪,部分原因是人们有理由怀疑中国人对享受自己劳动成果的美国人并没有感到过分苦恼。

但是即使那样,我还是有一种幻影感,是狄更斯的“过去的冠状病毒鬼魂”的变种,伴随着一种不舒服的感觉,即美国人足够痛苦(和恶毒),否认中国人显然轻松的胜利。 我担心美国人会像在俄罗斯一样试图让中国再种,看来我的担心并非没有道理。 在北京的新发地市场爆发的新病毒与以前在中国存在的任何病毒都不一样,它仅在美国和欧洲存在,并且只能从外部传入。 而且在没有可识别的零患者的海鲜市场上,也没有一种在中国不存在的病毒的明确的流行病学(来源和分布)。 它几乎必须是有意播种的,反对无穷小的几率。

就我所说的COVID-20(以区别于最初的爆发)而言,中国可能很幸运能够在这种新病原体传播之前就对其进行了检测和筛选。 疫情确实蔓延到了其他三个省,但单位个位数,而且医务当局已采取极端行动以防止进一步蔓延,因为这种病(在中国又不存在,必须从另一个国家播种)似乎更具传染性比原始的COVID-19[2]https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1191598.shtml 作为回应,北京已经封锁了一切,并派出了一批专家来指导与这一新的潜在流行病的斗争,迄今为止取得了良好的成功。 核酸检测已经大规模启动,已经有数百万人接受了检测,所有与新发地市场联系的人都处于隔离状态。 该市许多住宅区严格禁止任何人进入或离开,每天检查并报告居民的温度,并交付食物和日用品。[3]https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-beij...x.html

在这次新的疫情爆发之前,北京已经将近60天没有病毒,这意味着没有本地病毒,而且这种新的病原体无疑是一种进口(或美国出口)。 19月XNUMX日,中国疾控中心专家在对新发地市场进行了深入调查之后,宣布了他们所谓的“突破性的病毒追踪发现”,即北京的新病毒株与欧洲大部分地区相同,但它比欧洲的物种早很多,并且“已经存在了相当长的时间” –但这仅意味着它来自美国,因为这是许多个月前所有原始品种的来源。[4]https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192146.shtml

研究人员说,他们获得了如此多的阳性样本,以至整个市场“都被病毒严重污染了”,但也没有人得出这样的结论,认为市场是起源地,仅仅是因为那里爆发了疫情。 更重要的是,他们还说:“北京的爆发使我们有机会重新审视以前的推测,该病毒是野生生物引起的”,因为与武汉不同,“野生生物导致北京最近爆发的可能性很小。” 他们的结论是:“受病毒感染的受感染的个人或物体进入了湿市场,而市场仅为其提供了繁殖的环境”。[3]https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-beij...x.html 当局已经产生了基因组序列,现在正在确定何时,如何将这种病毒进口到中国,以及传播链有多长时间。 毫无疑问,这种病原体是“人”带入中国的,问题是这些人的身份及其目的。[5]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202006/15/WS5ee6b33d...9.html 而且,还有什么更好的方法可以“教那些自鸣得意的中国人上一课”,并试图破坏中国的快速经济复苏。

俄罗斯重新播种

在俄罗斯,这种病毒也有同样奇怪的地方。 长期以来,俄罗斯只有极少数的感染,每天稳定地增加仅五或十,然后突然爆发,每天增加五千,然后是一万和两万。 病毒爆发通常不会以这种方式表现出来。 像其他所有国家一样,爆发时的正常过程是感染数量迅速加速增长直至达到高峰。 但是在俄罗斯,这种感染长期以来很少发生,呈极低水平稳定,所有迹象表明流行病都没有成功,因此俄罗斯政府采取了严格的措施来控制传播。 美国政府显然对该病毒未能摧毁俄罗斯感到不满,而美国媒体对俄罗斯的死亡率如此之低感到be惜。 我会很感兴趣地看到5,000月和10,000月的首次感染以及20,000月和XNUMX月发生的第一次感染的基因组序列。 我没有任何确凿的证据,但我可以肯定的是,作为中国的俄罗斯,再次有了另一种种子,再次尝试。

病毒分布

但是回到我们的要点,我们没有必要确定病毒的物理来源。 我们知道这种病毒起源于蝙蝠。 可以证实这一点,但更重要的问题是流行病学,尤其是发病率和分布。 首先,对于中国和其他最初被感染的其他国家而言,有太多的同时出现的资源,因此将患者零位定位是绝望的。 病毒爆发留给自己的自然设备,并非以这种方式表现,而是从一个人处于局部局限的情况开始,并且从这一点开始蔓延开来。 同样令人苦恼的是,我们拥有全世界感染真正前所未有的“两次浪潮”。 为此,让我们回顾一下上一篇文章中的观察[6]COVID-19 –全球感染的两个主要“波”; https://www.moonofshanghai.com/2020/05/covid-19-two-...l.html 并快速浏览一下遍及全球的那两次感染浪潮。

第一波在25月25日开始的几天内同时感染了85个国家。一个月后,第二波在25月85日开始的几天内同时感染了85个国家。天然病毒无法同时感染(三天内) )感染了世界各大洲的XNUMX个不同国家。 更奇特的是,这些国家并非都感染了相同种类的病毒,而且大多数国家报告在多个地方同时爆发疫情。 根据病毒传播的基础知识来考虑以上信息,符合所有已知事实的唯一理论是,这些浪潮是由于许多人在同一天离开提特里克堡携带一桶不同的活病毒而造成的,因为这些多种病毒时间只存在于美国。 不可能是由于航空旅行造成的,因为这种时机本来就很分散。 当XNUMX个国家几乎在同一天经历病毒爆发时,只有在人工协助下才能发生这种情况。 美国人坚决拒绝解决这一点。

生物武器专家一致认为,在人群中同时爆发多个新的和不寻常的病原体,同时又没有明确的来源和没有经过证实的联系的病例的喷发,实际上是故意释放病原体的初步证据,因为自然爆发几乎可以始终解决在一个地点,而一名患者则为零。 但是,使用COVID-19(或COVID-20),在200个国家中,没有一个国家能够做到这一点。

应当牢记的是,北京的这种新感染并不是西方媒体所称的“第二波”。 这是一种完全不同的新病毒感染,完全与以前没有任何关系,一种新的不同病毒毒株被故意带到北京并泛滥到新发地市场。 这种感染与COVID-19无关,而是在中国又种生物病原体的播种,使得在两年内对中国进行了七次不同的生物攻击。 而中国也遭受了其他类似的苦难。 最著名的病毒之一是引起1年流感大流行的H1N1918病毒-并已灭绝数十年-但在1977年突然在中国和俄罗斯出现,引起了全球大流行,促使美国人立即宣称它“逃脱了中国实验室”。 但是唯一明智的解释是,H1N1病毒从美国人那里“逃脱了”,因为不断有报道称美国军方已经发现或保存了原始“西班牙流感”病毒的样本,并试图将其重新激活。 从来没有任何证据表明中国或俄罗斯对此有任何关系,而这两者全都使人惊讶。

我认为,世界需要停止假装COVID-19是自然事故。 考虑一下中国最近的经验。 除了非典的人为传染病外,过去两年来,中国还遭受了多次病毒性大流行的困扰。 15年2018月7日:H4N2018禽流感。 7年9月:H2018N24禽流感。 2019年2019月:非洲猪流感爆发。 19年2020月2020日:粘虫大规模出没。 20年XNUMX月:COVID-XNUMX。 XNUMX年XNUMX月:一种“高致病性”禽流感病毒株。 XNUMX年XNUMX月:中国受到COVID-XNUMX的打击。 我们是否要告诉自己,中国是世界上唯一一个在如此短的时间内被众多不同的生物病原体反复袭击的国家,这只是运气不好吗? 而且,更不幸的是,中国成为世界上唯一一个没有国内病毒的国家,并突然在另一个潮湿的市场上再次受到外来病毒的打击吗? 这种假设太荒谬了,以至于无法反驳。

不幸的是,今天我们收到的大量信息被动地受到了大众媒体的欢迎,因为其结果是丧失了我们严格地检查信息和用我们的思想来评估展示的能力。 例如,对于美国人来说,使用湿市场作为病毒的分发点以及媒体为这一点分配大量的广播时间是非常聪明的,因为我们本能地将此类市场与细菌和细菌的可能性相关联因此,在没有必要证据的情况下,被动地接受主张为真实的主张,从而避免按计划使用我们的大脑。 我们对潮湿市场不卫生的评估可能是正确的,但是常见的细菌和细菌与冠状病毒是完全不同的,冠状病毒以蝙蝠为家,在蔬菜市场上没有生意。 对于我们的目的而言,决定是否在实验室中创建COVID-19并不重要。 重要的一点是,冠状病毒没有从四川蝙蝠洞到武汉市场的运输工具,也没有以对人类有力传染性的方式变异自身的能力,更不用说选择中国的冠状病毒了。最大的客运枢纽为集散地,春节前夕为进攻的最佳时机。 对于这些,冠状病毒需要帮助的“黑手”。

绞索在美国收紧

几乎每天都有增加的证据表明,COVID-19在美国流通的时间比承认的时间要早​​得多,并且是CDC故意(并威胁)禁止测试的一种证明性证据是掩盖了这一证据。 最近的一个例子是21年2020月40日在美国媒体上的头条新闻,上面写着:“在美国,超过19例神秘的呼吸道死亡可能极大地重写COVID-XNUMX的叙述”。[7]https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192389.shtml 新的 洛杉矶时报 从2019年XNUMX月开始报道“一群神秘的呼吸道死亡”。当地新闻网站 www.bakersfield.com 表示这意味着COVID-19在加利福尼亚“比我们知道的更早”传播。 而且我们不要忘了太快了,日本游客已于2019年XNUMX月在夏威夷被感染。

并于20年2020月19日,意大利国立卫生研究院(ISS)透露,他们发现自2019年19月中旬以来,水样本中存在COVID-XNUMX。该结果得到两个独立实验室的证实,该实验室使用了两个完全不同的测试方法,并且还表明,来自米兰,都灵和博洛尼亚的环境废水可以追溯到XNUMX月的阳性痕迹,甚至可以追溯到XNUMX月。 显然,来自COVID-XNUMX的RNA不易在水中溶解或分解,聚合酶链反应测试使科学家能够在数月后鉴定出RNA。[8]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronaviru...23Q1J9[9]https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/ita...5a35e3

不仅是意大利。 荷兰研究人员在荷兰阿默斯福特市乌得勒支市的污水处理厂中发现了COVID-19 RNA。 法国科学家在巴黎首次记录任何死亡之前获得的大巴黎污水样品中检测到“高浓度” COVID-19 RNA。 人造卫星新闻 19月报道称,巴黎一家医院证实已于27年2019月31日对法国首例COVID-XNUMX病人Amirouche Hammar进行了治疗-法国首次宣布感染前一个月,而世卫组织中国分局被告知患有``肺炎''则为四天XNUMX月XNUMX日”。[10]https://sputniknews.com/europe/202006191079667103-sc...break/

新的 爱尔兰镜子 19月19日报道说,“许多国家开始使用废水采样来追踪疾病的传播”,科学家们声称这些检测结果“与其他国家/地区出现的证据相符”,表明COVID-XNUMX早在中国报道之前就已在世界范围内传播。它的第一个案例,所有这些案例都必须起源于美国,并运往世界各地。 现在看来,许多国家大约在同一时间播种了种子,也许是在它们的配水系统中播种了。 根据这些发现,国际空间站告诉 路透社 它打算对意大利旅游胜地的废水进行一项新的研究。 我怀疑其他国家也会效仿。

而且似乎 纽约时报,华尔街日报,可湿性粉剂,美国有线电视新闻网,美国广播公司,美国国家广播公司,国家邮政,环球邮报,对此一无所知。 中国人和欧洲人知道,但美国人和加拿大人不知道,因为主要报纸和电视网络的所有者不希望他们知道。

简要更新

如果您查看图表(由 美国有线电视新闻网),则可以看到欧洲感染模式(粉红色)和美国人感染模式(绿色)。 欧洲人在不同程度上遵循了中国的协议,因此取得了不同程度的成功。 欧洲的感染高峰每天达到约30,000,然后在2,000月底下降至30,000左右,而美国人在一个活着的人证明民主是最糟糕的政府形式的领导下,感染率达到了相同的水平,略有下降,然后恢复为每天1,000例感染,每天约有XNUMX例死亡,直到病毒在整个人群中激增之前,它们将一直存在。 已有XNUMX个州每天都在经历突如其来的高峰,创下新纪录,因此特朗普命令疾病预防控制中心“停止测试”,因为这会使他看上去很糟糕。

下图是COVID-19感染的前十个国家/地区的列表。 我想对领导力和能力进行比较,这就是我所不愿看到的,更不用说智慧了。 上海距武汉只有两个小时的路程,感染爆发时没有预警,几乎没有时间进行准备,但行动如此果断,以至于该市只有26例感染和7例死亡。 该图缺少的是加拿大,其人口与上海非常相似,并且有数月的计划和准备工作,因此有101,000例感染和8,400例死亡。 加拿大总理贾斯汀·特鲁多(Justin Trudeau)也生动地证明了民主的巨大失败。

美国人选出了一个居住在外太空的可悲的丑角,而加拿大人选出了一个欺负孩子的孩子,他太笨拙,优柔寡断,如果他的房屋被烧毁,他将不得不告诉他给消防部门打电话。 I would include here the Brazilians who, with excessive assistance from the Americans, elected an arrogant sociopath who said famously, “It's not my fault. 您要我做什么?”

在这三个国家中,无领导者的大流行结果是相同的,感染和死亡至少在年底之前可能会增加。 中国人口超过1.4亿,感染了约80,000例病毒,死亡仅4,000余例,并在大约三个月的时间内制止了感冒病毒。 但是根据 纽约时报,华尔街日报,可湿性粉剂, 和加拿大的终极厌恶 国家邮政局,“自由市场资本主义”国家是上帝的第一选择,而“社会主义专制”中国应该为其所有错误施加更多制裁。

拉里·罗曼诺夫(Larry Romanoff)是一位退休的管理顾问和商人。 他曾在国际咨询公司担任高级行政职务,并拥有国际进出口业务。 他曾是上海复旦大学的客座教授,向高级EMBA课程介绍国际事务案例研究。 罗曼诺夫先生目前居住在上海,目前正在撰写一系列涉及中国和西方的十本书。 可以通过以下方式与他联系: [电子邮件保护] 他是全球研究的常客。

笔记:

[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-beijing-outbreak-intl-hnk/index.html

[2] https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1191598.shtml

[3] https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-beijing-outbreak-intl-hnk/index.html

[4] https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192146.shtml

[5] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202006/15/WS5ee6b33da310834817252ec9.html

[6] COVID-19 –全球感染的两个主要“波”; https://www.moonofshanghai.com/2020/05/covid-19-two-major-waves-of-global.html

[7] https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192389.shtml

[8] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-sewage-idUSKBN23Q1J9

[9] https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid19-was-there-in-december-2019/news-story/2fd865f7b12a33698f3e9ab2f15a35e3

[10] https://sputniknews.com/europe/202006191079667103-scientists-find-traces-of-sars-cov-2-in-italian-wastewater-predating-2019-wuhan-outbreak/

 
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  1. What the hell is this? It’s almost like CCP is working with Democrats to unseat Trump with new hysteria about Covid 20, 21, etc.

    When/if Trump loses, it will be Covid-what?

    • 回复: @Quinsat
    , @Wally
  2. Cat 说:

    任何写下“我们知道病毒起源于蝙蝠的人; 确认了这么多”不是我要进一步关注的人。

    • 回复: @skrik
    , @sally
    , @Colonel Corn
  3. Godfree, that is really strange. On my computer, only the link for (7) has a Yandex address. No idea how that would happen, but if you copy the words in the link (not the shortcut) the link does work.

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
  4. Larry are you telling us goyium this out the goodness of your black little heart?
    How unchacteristic for a member of Shanghi’s Jewish elite.

    • 巨魔: FB, Alfred, Herald
    • 回复: @denk
    , @Jake
  5. Anon[320]• 免责声明 说:

    This flu like outbreak in July ’19 in VA that killed two and sent 18 to the hospital in a nursing home in Springfield, VA, should be fully investigate, it could explain the origin of the virus:
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/us/virginia-retirement-community-respiratory-illness-outbreak/index.html

    Springfield, VA, where this nursing home was located, is about an hour south east of Ft. Detrick, the bioweapons lab that was shut down by CDC at around the same time after it failed a safety inspection in June, 2019.

    • 回复: @Bombercommand
  6. To think the evil geniuses that would create such nasty pathogens would not have a whole panoply of similar bugs to release would seem naive. I suspect the future strains will only become more virulent, thus insuring a very complacent and fearful populace for unlimited vaccinating, microchipping and contact tracing, all to the PTB’s delight and profits. Not to mention the ease with which the American populace will have their anger, fears and frustrations twisted into hatred for all things Chinese. How convenient!

    What is currently amusing is watching how deftly the Chinese government is dealing with these assaults, both biological and economic, and how impotent and visibly frustrated the US powerbrokers are with the efficiency and effectiveness of the Chinese responses.

    If the Chinese continue to effectively fend off the future attacks, whether they be biological or financial/trade, one can expect that these same evil geniuses, having been frustrated over and over, will only continue their escalations. Expect the anti-China rhetoric from the West’s political puppets and the MSM to reach fever pitch just before things turn ‘hot’ in the new cold war against Chinese ascendancy. Whether it will eventually (or inevitably) go nuclear is the real \$64,000 question that leaves many of us concerned observers awake at night………..

  7. Rahan 说:

    So what we have here, if we accept the basic discourse of this highly interesting article, is therefore likely the following:

    China got hit by various “flu weapons” and “livestock diseases” over the last twenty years, to keep the “dirty commies” from “getting too uppity”, but, not counting SARS, only became capable of keeping an accurate tally of the different jabs and pokes over the last five years.

    At some point, the Chinese government decided that enough is enough. Their think-tanks recommended the following strategy as the only feasible one: the next time they get seeded, the instantly pounce on the new pathogen, and blow it out of all proportion, causing a) the whole world to panic, and b) the whole world to start paying attention to the issue of new and old pathogens floating around.

    In this sense, the “it’s just the flu bro” people are correct, meaning that this is not really some apocalyptic plague that justifies shutting down the world. But on the other hand, it was used by Beijing as an example to point out that this crap is happening, and that they know it’s happening, and that this game can’t be played like this anymore.

    In effect they “pulled a Trump”. Through their bombastic overreaction, they forced the whole world to notice and discuss the issue they wanted noticed and discussed.

    So from now on, the whole world—except the Anglospherical powers completely taken over by the GloboHomo alliance of corporations, deep state, and baizuo (and where the heritage white demographic replacement has gone farthest)—will also be super careful about these things, and evidence will begin to accumulate through this “forced crowd-sourcing”.

    • 回复: @BJ2020
  8. refl 说:

    authorities have taken extreme action to prevent further spread since this variety – which again did not exist in China and had to be seeded from another country, appears to be much more contagious than the original COVID-19.[2] In response
    (......)
    Many residential compounds in the city strictly prohibit anyone from entering or leaving, with residents having their temperatures checked and reported on a daily basis, and their food and daily necessities delivered.[3]

    So this is how the new shamdemic of COVID-20 will cement and perfect the destruction of freedom across the world?
    We will have discussion on fictious body counts and false statistics here at UR for ever more with COVID-20, -21, -22 and so on?

    This pattern makes sense, because the victory over the populace who have given up their freedom to lead anything that can be called a life worth living is just to great to be allowed to be ephimeral.
    The total destruction of freedom only makes sense, if there is a follow up until all the deluded hoaxers who believe that their is a life beyond feeling sick kill themselves. Then it will be lockdowns and quarantines for ever more and families will have online celebrations when the newborns will get their masks sealed on their seventh day on earth, before they are handed over to the overlords.

    As for this authorities conclusions: It should be known by now that when you interpret bogus data, above all when you do so with bad intentions, you will find any conclusions that suite your purpose. Of course, COVID-19 has been found in older samples, as by now the testing has been so well established that they can find it anywhere. Next, they will find it in eghiptian mumies.
    This author is a management consultant. He has done missinterpreting statistics for a living and should know how to reasonably sell bad advice.

    • 同意: Uomiem
    • 回复: @Alden
  9. Quinsat 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Covid’s here to stay – irrespective of the fact that it has never and will never satisfy Koch’s Postulates.

    Why? Two reasons. First, because it has proved itself to be a highly effective means of controlling first world populations. Second, because now that it’s been rolled out, it’ll be impossible to roll it back without waking up the normies. You don’t turn off the gas before the frog’s been boiled.

    Ditto the assault on ‘white privilege’. Like Covid, it’s only going to get worse – not better.

    Plan accordingly, friends.

  10. mike99588 说:

    I”m skeptical of anything manufactured in mainland China and not carefully quality checked by competent, independent parties. Especially “The Truth”, CCP claims generally, and the virus free claims.

    This article sounds like 50 cent army and 1000 Talents combined into New Truth.
    Evolution is a bitch.

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
    , @Herald
  11. Alfred 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Are you in Russia?

    I am in Kiev and I have no such problem. All links, including 7, are correct.

  12. Ten citations, and three are from “The Global Times”, one from “China Daily”, and one is an article penned by the author himself. Impressive scholarship, Mr Romanoff, very impressive scholarship.

    • 回复: @WHAT
    , @James from Oz
  13. The 5-Eyes governments all need to be told that the USA attacked them, launched bio-warfare against them, is their real enemy.

    • 同意: skrik
    • 不同意: Sam J.
    • 回复: @Sam J.
  14. Virus outbreaks don’t normally manifest that way. The normal process upon an outbreak is a rapid acceleration in the number of infections until it peaks

    Occams Razor. It’s a hoax or else the virus is violating the laws of Nature.

  15. @Godfree Roberts

    The links in the “Notes:” are working correctly on my (MacBook) Chrome browser

  16. China, with a population of more than 1.4 billion people, had about 80,000 infections and little more than 4,000 deaths, and stopped the virus cold in about three months.

    Whew, thank heavens they didn’t lose any more of their 1,400,000,000. They can hardly afford any loss whatever.

    • 巨魔: showmethereal
    • 回复: @trickster
  17. Emily 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    I have tried some and found them functioning.
    Anyone else?.
    They all went straight in.

  18. I would include here the Brazilians who, with excessive assistance from the Americans, elected an arrogant sociopath who said famously, “It’s not my fault. What do you want me to do about it?”

    In Brazil, the Supreme Court has decided that governors don’t have to obey the federal government on local health policies. So, it really makes no difference whether the President is Mother Theresa or Jason Voorhees. It’s true that Bolsonaro tries once in a while to enact some federal regulations, but he seems to fail every time. It’s odd that you don’t know that fact, seeing as in the U.S. I hear things are quite similar. As for Brazilian governors, they oddly don’t get the same international flak as Bolsonaro does, despite many of them being suspected of using the pandemic as an opportunity for stealing.

    This kind of inexactitude immediately throws the rest of the article under heavy suspicion. When people start spewing words like ‘sociopath’, it is clear to me that they have an agenda.

  19. It is unfortunate that so much of our information today comes to us in a passive receptance from the mass media because one result is the loss of our ability to examine information critically and use our minds to assess the presentation. As an example, it was very clever for the Americans to use a wet market as a distribution point for a virus and for the media to give this point massive air time, because we instinctively associate such markets with at least a possibility of germs and bacteria and thus passively accept the claims as true without the necessary evidence and thus avoid using our brains as intended.

    Rewrite: “it is unfortunate that alternative media distill their take on the news, based on data fed into the public domain. As much as MSM do. Garbage in, garbage out. Sorting garbage, no avail. This article is just another layer of meaningless deft. If any statement here is true, it would be by accident.

    In that, of course, it follows the enforcing of the media rule: keep a grasp on the surplus population by manipulating the frequency and number of tainted information. All data in the public domain are probably useless by now. All data on Covid are willfully manipulated. The author of course knows this, and his dump is intentional. The immediate reason, middle class making a living, book pushing, bread-writing, self-promotion, retirement gig, no more. Summer months in the media year, another step-in. Jewish by hazard?

  20. Anon[168]• 免责声明 说:

    The author of this piece is obviously “off his chops”.

  21. WHAT 说:
    @Bombercommand

    哇哦,中国媒体正在报道中国问题,他们怎么敢! 我什至不能。

  22. @mike99588

    You’re skeptical of anything manufactured in mainland China and not carefully quality checked by competent, independent parties?

    为什么? 毕竟,中国是大多数科学技术的世界领导者。

    • 哈哈: Hippopotamusdrome
  23. Ed P 说:

    Allegations, made without evidence, then used later in the same article as if they are factual, is a known technique for pushing unsupported points and conclusions.
    There might be some facts hidden in the rant, but probably not trustworthy ones.

    • 同意: SteveK9
    • 回复: @Biff
  24. Z-man 说:

    寻求帮助。
    However what you have can’t really be fixed.
    Oh instead of visiting why don’t you make China your permanent home.

  25. skrik 说:
    @Cat

    如果你想比赛

    我们知道这种病毒起源于蝙蝠。 证实了很多

    then it’d only be fair for you to inform us of your alternate explanation, giving convincing proof [assuming you’d have some?]

    FYI there exists a bat-coronavirus genetic sequence RaTG13 which agrees with 96.2% of Covid-19, and an even closer match in RmYN02 at 93.3% agreement. Thesis: That someone took RaTG13 [see 1st and 3rd parts in image below; the RaTG13 spike is so far a ‘best fit’] and force-evolved it by infecting cultures of human cells in an evolution-enabling environment, collecting any ‘survivors’ then repeating this process [a possible proof being the Covid-19 attack disabling victims’ sense of smell, indicating ‘force-evolving’ in cultures of human nerve cells]. In addition, I’ve seen suggested, that infecting animals with some human-similar traits [here, ferrets with ACE2, say] could have evolved the virus to attack via ACE2 in humans. Then, there’s the *独特* inclusion of RPPA in the Covid-19 spike, both enabling infection and that with greatly enhanced pathogenicity [compared to SARS-1, say]. rgdsPS对文章中某些观点的有趣扩展是,由于病毒感染已经遍及全球,因此,如果这是人为的[我最好的提示],那么无论是谁造成的[=显然是流氓国家特工]都造成了100万人的死亡, *including their own people*! BRRR

    • 同意: Emily, Badger Down
    • 谢谢: Curmudgeon
  26. Avery 说:

    {The Americans elected a pathetic buffoon who lives in outer space,}

    He may or may not be a pathetic buffoon*, but he is smart enough to parlay inherited wealth to become a Billionaire, he is POTUS, he lives in the White House or Mar-a-Lago with a model-wife, and will be remembered as such long after you are forgotten.

    Aside from that, who would you have Americans elect? The Hildabeast?
    But it’s not too late: if enough Americans lose their minds and elect The DementiaMan, we will be subjected to the non-buffoon experience of Hildabeast 2.0.

    Biden will be a near complete vegetable in a year or two, and the chosen female radical left, Antifa (sic)** embracing VP will run the show. America as it was founded will be no more.

    _____________________
    * Lookup Scott Adams’ discussions on how Trump manipulates and influences.
    Scott predicted way back that Trump would be POTUS.
    Note: Scott is a trained hypnotist, and recognizes classic ‘tells’ of hypnosis in Trump’s seemingly “buffoonish” behaviour.

    ** Despite their cleverly chosen moniker, these violent thugs are the real Fascists: their behaviour and tactics are an exact copy of Mussolini’s Blackshirts.

    • 同意: Alden
  27. Biff 说:
    @Ed P

    There might be some facts hidden in the rant, but probably not trustworthy ones.

    Could you please explain what an untrustworthy fact is?

    • 回复: @trickster
    , @Ed P
  28. Larry Romanoff makes here quite an effort of commie propaganda!
    Why this satanic Jew is so much in love with China and its totalitarian regime? Because the communism in China is since the beginning of the Chinese revolution, with Mao, guided and helped by the satanic Jews – the same ethnic group that made the bolshevic revolution in Russia. Now they work hardly to overthrow the western democratic institutions, and with much focus in the present at the republican president, D. Trump.
    The Covid-19 and now Covid-20 are scams used as psychological warfare. They use this scam as a political tool to destroy the present world order and usher a totalitarian orvelian NWO on the whole planet. We see clearly this evil manifesting overtly, especially in the USA in the later days.
    The lock-down of the population on the whole planet is their work, and shows how well organized they are for the takeover. If we stay idle, we shall passively collaborate with these devils for our demise.
    Soros and his helpers are of the same ilk, of the same team – human devils organizing the enslavement of the whole human race on this planet.
    Do not collaborate, do not stay idle! For the sake of your freedom and human rights, do not fall for the scandemic, and start acting to stop this madness and evil takeover on the planet Earth.
    Be aware that their aim is not only the takeover of this world, but also the culling of the human population – two thirds of the present population must be wiped out by 2030, according the their program “Agenda 2030′ published by ONU. So, you know now!
    All it takes for the victory of the evil, is that good people do nothing! Get up and do something!

    • 回复: @denk
    , @denk
    , @denk
  29. Emily 说:

    Interesting about the ‘seeding’ of Russia.
    One look at the map and you couldn’t miss it.
    I rather think I commented on here to that effect at the time.
    For the virus to have broken out right across the vast country – almost at the same time – and more odd in places where there would have been little movement or traffic.
    I have no doubt that the USA is behind the lot – including the numerous other viral attacks on China.
    Interestingly ZH – now under attack – seems to have carried out a purge on its commenters over this.
    The ones who questioned whether China WAS to blame and mentioned Gates, Fauci, Fort Detrick and its research, pathogenic waste escaping and the US funding of Wuhan.
    Old faces seem gone – and if memory serves me – some faces who questioned the origins of Covid 19.
    I use the word ‘purge’ – the word used by someone commenting on there recently.
    I know one person under lock out – and not a few more seem missing.

    • 回复: @Blackjack
  30. Those poor innocent Chinese. Thankfully the buffoon president’s reseeding program will not interfere with China’s 10 day dog meat festival. Guess it will then be back to exotic and endanger animal meat. I’ve bought enough stuff made in China to realize they are fully capable of haphazard viral handling, and subsequent releasing and reinfecting all on their own. Also plan on sticking with pork, beef, and chicken for dinner.

    Is it ” racist” to despise dog eating? Probably as a cat lover.

    • 回复: @denk
    , @showmethereal
    , @trickster
  31. trickster 说:
    @Marshall Lentini

    Marshall, I got out my \$1.00 calculator (made in China for your information) and divided 4000 by 1.4B. Unfortunately the thing would not give me an answer, all I could see was a decimal point followed by dozens of zeros. Finally, seated at my dining table, I found a 5 off to the far right near to my refrigerator.

    I am presently setting up some algebra to determine if this Covid thing is all a load of shit LOL

    Hopefully, with the new avalanche of graphs from Romanov and Karlin (aka the Russian Mutt and Jeff) I may be able to come up with a formula. I am thinking something like this:

    LR +AK + Cvid19= (10 x BS)

    • 回复: @PetrOldSack
  32. trickster 说:
    @Biff

    An untrustworthy fact is a Chinaman who uses the handle BIFF

    LOL

  33. @Avery

    Antifa are not “Fascists,” who are Nationalists, they are globalist Trotskyites.

    • 同意: Republic, TheTrumanShow
  34. Jafbm 说:

    This article has so much bullshit in it It’s hard to know where to start.

    • 回复: @aj54
  35. Don’t viruses mutate anyway? See science 直销网 ~ covid in France in December. Also an acquaintance of mine had a horrible virus in December in England.

    • 回复: @Vidi
  36. trickster 说:
    @Avery

    Biden a near veggie in a year or 2 ? He is a vegetable now ! And if Stevie Wonder is right and plants do have a secret life Biden’s IQ must be a few points lower than a lettuce.

    As for his female VP all I can say is ” Um, ah, well you know, blah blah, uh huh, ah yeah, um no…………”. Keep in touch, I may be able to finish the sentence in December.

    Hold on, there is a call coming in from Moscow, it could be Vlad.

    Hello Vlad ? How is it hanging in Moscow? Yes, now you want Trump out ? And Biden and his gopher in ? How come ? Oh I see now. What you say makes perfect sense Comrade Tovarich. Easier to deal with 2 idiots! Da !

  37. jadan 说:

    The Chinese analyzed the new outbreak and determined the genome was that of a strain that existed only in the US & Europe, but not heretofore in China. The Chinese have identified many different strains of this virus, seven or more.

    But the author goes on to say later in his diatribe: ” This is an entirely new and different infection by a new virus and totally unrelated to anything prior, a strain of a new and different virus that was deliberately carried to Beijing and flooded in the Xinfadi Market. ”

    This covid19 with its growing number of strains seems likely to have escaped from a lab and it is most probably a product of US ingenuity, with cleverly engineered gain of function, but to leap to the conclusion that the US has deployed this bioweapon against China and Russia goes too far. Why would the US target its own population in the process?

    If, as Ron Unz speculates, this virus is a botched attack on China and other enemies by stupid people in a stupid administration that has had unanticipated blowback hitting the US, then these same stupid perps would not launch another such aggression!

    This notion of a secret biological aggression does not hold water, but the Chinese probably appreciate Larry Romanoff’s efforts.

    • 回复: @skrik
    , @dogbumbreath
  38. denk 说:
    @Nikola Zrinski

    The author makes solid sense in his CV19/20 analysis.

    Spare me this Jew bullcraps,

    谭耀宗
    西藏
    新疆
    HK
    FLG’
    SCS
    ECS
    TW
    CV19 / 20

    and…..currently going hot,
    fukus proxy war in Ladakh.

    All reeks of [[[6个骗子]]], nuthin to do with da Joo.

    • 回复: @showmethereal
  39. mike99588 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Where have you been? The examples of massive cheating and common reckless are decades long. The melamine-milk scandals and falling down buildings were not merely “one-off” but a commonplace for the Chinese themselves.

    I myself have examples of deal-breaking cheating that cost them bigger opportunities, and shake my head. Yes, they can do world class, sometimes.

    We will probably never know how much has been copied. It’s been so pervasive at all scales.

    With borg like eavesdropping and acquisition systems gobbling everything up, 4x our population, with our declining high quality population, we may yet see how much they can or can’t innovate.

    They have a lot of stripped assets and resources now to command impoverished Americas’ hopes and attention, against prior experiences.

  40. @Godfree Roberts

    Even Chinese are skeptical of anything “Made In China”. Last year, in a Canadian Tire store I saw a Chinese couple. Hubby had selected an item for possible purchase. His wife tore into him, speaking rapidly and scornfully in Chinese. I do not understand Chinese, but didn’t need to, as she repeatedly dropped in the English phrase “Made In China”, in a sarcastic tone of voice. Hubby put the item back on the shelf and they walked away. China is a deeply cracked culture. My friend Meng(female), who was born in China and married to a Chinese guy, put it to me bluntly: “In China, 90% of marriages are without love”.

    • 回复: @Ann Nonny Mouse
    , @Alden
  41. denk 说:
    @yuribezmenoff

    they work hardly to overthrow the western democratic institutions,

    Cough cough cough cough….

    The lock-down of the population on the whole planet is their work,

    Never heard of Rockefeller’s Lockstep 2010 ?

    Soros and his helpers are of the same ilk, of the same team –
    Be aware that their aim is not only the takeover of this world, but also the culling of the human population
    All it takes for the victory of the evil, is that good people do nothing! Get up and do something!

    NEVEr heard of BIll 灭绝 Gates, his global vaccine proj and
    ID2020 , MARK OF BEAST.

    Clintons and their HR6666 ?

    疾病预防控制中心
    美国国立卫生研究院
    大型制药公司,
    中央情报局
    fort Detrick and its 400 branches
    all over the world…

  42. SteveK9 说:

    Here’s a novel solution … do nothing. It works for Belarus. Some 80-year-olds die and society goes on as usual … problem solved. Spoken by someone getting closer to 80.

    • 同意: Mustapha Mond, St-Germain
    • 回复: @Republic
  43. fred777 说:

    Larry is just toeing the company line so he can maintain that professorship at Fudan. Making bank selling out the west which he despises is just the cherry on top.

  44. Agent76 说:

    Jun 22, 2020 CELEBRATED SCIENTIST: ‘80% NOT SUSCEPTIBLE TO COVID”

    Named the “most influential” brain scientist of our time, Dr. Karl Friston, made waves when he published his study mapping the real susceptibility of contracting Coronavirus. His results are staggering and challenge the rationale for a lockdown like no other.

    Jun 15, 2020 The Collapse of the COVID-1984 Narrative

    Now that the major institutions pushing the COVID panic are now admitting that the virus is not an existential threat and the lockdowns were not necessary, what does this mean for the future of the COVID-1984 police state and the ushering in of the new “biosecurity” paradigm?

    • 同意: Emily
    • 谢谢: Herald
  45. Emslander 说:
    @Mustapha Mond

    In any complex, highly planned operation such as you describe, where motives of such depth and perception are necessary, there are going to have to be real persons with real names. You can’t go on saying that “evil geniuses” at Fort Deitrich or wherever engineered and executed so deftly these multilayered “seedings” without getting orders or authorization from someone we all know. Is it Trump, Pompeo, Hilary, Biden, Obama or Amy Semple McPherson?

    It’s like the Germans and the Holocaust. You’d have to have so many evil players with superhuman capacity to hold onto their secret motives and actions that we still can’t pin them down. I don’t think there are so many such people in our stupid federal government. Even our brave and feared John Bolton, when he reveals himself, is just an oversensitive weeny.

    This article suffers from many fundamental misunderstandings of government weenies. Those people in Northern Virginia who are “seeding” foreign nations with new strains of virus every sixty days on some diabolically precise motivational dynamic live in boring suburbs and fix awful chicken on their barbecues. They drink watery beer and watch “Wheel of Fortune”. Give me a break!

    • 回复: @Mustapha Mond
    , @FB
    , @Herald
  46. @Bombercommand

    如果他们是中国旅行者,探索加拿大和加拿大文化,那么就好像买了中国制造的东西一样愚蠢。 您的推理不成立。

  47. Ed P 说:
    @Biff

    Presently any ‘fact’ coming from the CCP or its mouthpieces.

  48. Desert Fox 说:

    Covid-19 is the biggest fraud / scam in human history designed to bring in a communist revolution, to see what it will look like, the communist revolutions in Russia and China and Cuba and Cambodia, are just a few examples.

  49. @Emslander

    Hannah Arendt noted the ‘banality of evil’ long ago. It’s pretty common, sad to say.

    The military is filled with ‘ordinary’ people who apparently have no qualms about murdering anyone their ‘superiors’ point to and say, “Kill!” They are just following orders, after all.

    The number of ‘evil players’ is simply staggering, whether we want to admit it or not. And yes, they DO drink watery beer and watch “Wheel of Fortune” and have bar-b-ques. John Wayne Gacy comes to mind immediately. Who knows who our neighbors really are, deep down inside?

    As for naming names, gosh, I seem to have lost my DARPA personnel directory of evil geniuses, and my CIA directory of same as well.

    (But as for who REALLY controls things and gives the orders, I think you may have nailed it with Sister Aimee. And she was HOT in her day, and apparently knew how to have a good time. Hallelujah, brother……..) 😉

    • 回复: @Mefobills
  50. Email address links:

    This is an aside, but I want to ask if anyone has ever experienced this before. Godfree Roberts said that on his computer all the links at the end of this article were not to the actual website reference but to an email account. I checked, and one reference had this defect while the others were okay.

    A friend told me that she’d had this experience once, where she’d posted (on a website) links to several articles, but when she went back to that website to ensure the links were active, when she clicked on them, they didn’t go to the desired website but instead opened her email program on her computer. No password was necessary, and that meant that anyone clicking on those links would have opened her email program (on their computer) and would have access to all her emails without her knowledge.

    I have never seen this before, but it cannot be an accident. No known program has the ability or the inclination to substitute a live website link with the instructions to open someone’s email account without a password. That is damned sophisticated espionage.

    Does anyone know anything?

  51. Beobachter 说:

    对北京的污水进行了仔细的收集和精炼……结果就是本文。

    同志们,给碳水化合物加油! 我们现在都是红色中国人!

    • 哈哈: PetrOldSack, trickster
  52. Republic 说:
    @SteveK9

    There are reports that the US is currently engaged in a color revolution in Belarus.
    See Moon of Alabama for details

  53. @Anon

    So the “flu like outbreak” skipped Frederick, Maryland, the town Fort Detrick is located in to strike Springfield, Virginia which is very close to Washington DC, as well as not striking other communities between Frederick, Maryland and Springfield, Virginia including Washington DC. I like how your brain works, you should be working at The Global Times…or perhaps you already are….

    • 回复: @Herald
  54. denk 说:
    @Old and Grumpy

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/from-1945-until-today-20-to-30-million-people-killed-by-the-usa/5660519

    Considering that you’ve been targeting residential area, market places, wedding dinner, mosques, churches, you’ve prolly vaporised 20-30M dogs and cats, those are the 幸运 ones, many more were left maimed and paralyzed.

    • 同意: Badger Down
  55. Culpepper 说:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    加拿大文化? 他们可以购买哪些加拿大产品?

    • 回复: @Alden
  56. 19,布拉斯·古巴斯(BrásCubas)说:

    “我将在这里包括巴西人,他们在美国人的大力协助下选举了一位傲慢自大的社会变态者,他著名地说道:“这不是我的错。 您要我做什么?””

    .

    “在巴西,最高法院已裁定州长不必就地方卫生政策服从联邦政府。 因此,总统是特蕾莎修女还是杰森·沃希斯都没有关系。 的确,Bolsonaro偶尔会尝试制定一些联邦法规,但他似乎每次都失败。 奇怪的是,您不知道这个事实,就像在美国听到的一样。 至于巴西州长,奇怪的是他们没有像博尔索纳罗那样受到国际冲击,尽管其中许多人被怀疑利用大流行作为偷窃的机会。”

    这种不正确行为立即使文章的其余部分备受怀疑。 当人们开始吐出诸如“社会变态”之类的字眼时,对我来说很明显,他们有一个议程。”

    .

    我通常不会回应垃圾邮件,但读者可能会喜欢看这个,因为这是不诚实陈述的经典。

    首先,古巴先生从文章中引述了博尔索纳罗是一个社会病态者。 然后,他(或她或她)将话题转交给巴西州长,而不必服从联邦政府。 谁在乎? 那个是从哪里来的? 相关什么?

    然后,作者因“不知道这个事实”而受到责备,尽管我们不知道他是否知道,因为从未讨论过。

    然后,古巴先生将作者对这种无关紧要的信息的所谓“知识的缺乏”转变为“这种不正确行为立即使文章的其余部分受到严重怀疑”。 就是说,如果我在关于桥梁建设的对话中没有提到油炸鸡肉的过程,那么你应该假设我对油炸鸡肉一无所知,而且,在对话中我没有提及油炸鸡肉。桥梁建设的有关信息应让您怀疑我所说的一切。 你明白了吗?

    然后,“社会变态”一词被“喷出”,并且使用该词的任何人都必须具有“议程”。

    但是,在巴西的博尔索纳罗(Bolsonaro),当该人没有领导才能时,大肆宣扬大流行,不采取任何行动来保护人民,看着超过一百万的公民受到感染,其中有五万多人死亡,然后说:“这不是我的过错。 您想让我做什么?”,我认为我们手上有一个反社会的人。

    在这种情况下,谁拥有“议程”,古巴先生?

  57. Shaman911 说:

    The Chinese medical definition for the word Wuhan is “A Trembling Chill”

    Just another Psyop from the Bildebergers, Tri-Lateral Commission, Jews, and Freemasons.

  58. Herald 说:
    @Bombercommand

    We can see how your brain works too. Nothing that challenges the already crumbling official narrative will get past you. How’s the weather in Langley?

    • 回复: @Bombercommand
    , @Badger Down
  59. Jiminy 说:
    @mike99588

    I think you are right when it comes to the quality of goods manufactured in China. So many of their products always seem to be lacking in the final percentage points of quality or design. Sometimes it can be because they are being screwed to the last cent by the middleman though. I know of a guy who was getting air conditioning parts manufactured in China, and if he wasn’t constantly watching them, the basic ingredients would be altered as cost- saving and the parts would fail. Also, I remember in the 90’s when all the big car makers were courting China, the Europeans were expected to divulge their proprietary secrets before they were allowed to set up shop.
    And concerning the virus, if this is the new normal, then we can expect to see China suffering on a constant basis from now on. Clearly the US realises that it’s a successful means of constraining China’s growth. Although somewhat belatedly.
    I still think that the virus had been in the US since at least December 2018/ January 2019. The Maryland Department of Health issued a bulletin that told of 59 cases of e- vaping users suffering from respiratory illness as of 28th of January 2019. I believe this illness only occurred in the US.

    • 回复: @showmethereal
  60. utu 说:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Japanese tourists often buy Japanese products (cameras, electronics) because they are cheaper in the US than in Japan.

  61. @Godfree Roberts

    Yeah the China CCP is the leader in thieving science and technologies from the real leader, The USA. The USA was kind and helped out a third world country and look how they have repaid the USA!!! China CCP has infected the world with virus. lied to and stolen from their benefactors and treated the Chinese people who have to live under such an evil government even worse!!!

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  62. Alfred 说:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    it would be silly of them to buy something made in China as though it was Canadian

    Do you buy tires when you go on vacation to the other side of the Pacific Ocean? 🙂

    • 回复: @showmethereal
  63. The dirty yellow rats will be done in eventually by their own petard (a people with unclean eating habits is bound to produce terrible results) … no amount of palliative applied by the merchant class of the West would save their desired future home!

    • 回复: @Parbes
  64. Alfred 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Does anyone know anything?

    It opens the email on the user’s computer. That does not mean that a remote person can access it. However, I am sure they have access to all emails of everyone without needing to use your computer at all.

  65. Since Nixon,every single time that you hear anything good from China it is propaganda,even if ti comes from Ron Unz

    • 同意: GomezAdddams
  66. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    They were not tourists from China. Tourists from China are in downtown Toronto where the action is, not wandering in an obscure, boring neighborhood in North York. They were ChineseCanadian from my neighborhood, which is 50% Chinese/Korean. I can distinguish at a glance a ChineseCanadian from China from a CanadianBornChinese(CBC). I can instantly distinguish a CanadianChinese who has recently arrived, from one that has been here a few years, from one that has been here twenty years. Subtle differences in dress and body language. I like living amongst Chinese, and like living amongst Koreans even more. Civilized, no crime. The Chinese ladies REALLY like Big Bad Ass White Men(but you MUST be a gentleman), and readily engage in playful repartee and light flirtation, anywhere, even in front of their husbands.

    • 巨魔: showmethereal
    • 回复: @eastkekiisawhiteguy
  67. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Avery

    I’m no genius, but you didn’t have to be to predict Trump’s win. I was telling people to open their eyes. Trump playing packed 15k plus venues twice a day, and Hildebeast playing half empty school gymnasiums maybe once a week. It was clear the poll numbers were being pulled out of some Democrat’s asshole. People showing up to Trump rallies were highly committed and were going to vote. You can’t count on the uncommitted to vote, regardless of their political inclination.
    Trump didn’t win because he was a great candidate. He won because Hildebeast was so awful.

    • 回复: @Sulu
    , @Avery
  68. @Herald

    Very fortunately for the enemies of The United States, I do not work for the CIA.

    • 回复: @Herald
  69. skrik 说:
    @jadan

    This covid19 with its growing number of strains seems likely to have escaped from a lab and it is most probably a product of US ingenuity, with cleverly engineered gain of function, but to leap to the conclusion that the US has deployed this bioweapon against China and Russia goes too far. Why would the US target its own population in the process?

    To answer the last bit 1st, the rogue-state operators did not expect USA to get bitten, due to a) already having a mild form active there, and b) SARS-CoV-1 was largely contained in Asia (84% of all deaths in Mainland China and Hong Kong).

    Note that Forster found only a few occurrences of the A-strain, closest may have been 50km SE of Wuhan; the overwhelming majority of Chinese infections being B-strain. Now a new-to-China strain has somehow ‘arrived’ in Beijing (termed ‘older’ in headline article). The people who ‘built’ the Covid-19 causing virus = SARS-CoV-2 know exactly what they’ve done, and it is my thesis that when the PRRA insert was recognised in Wuhan, that was the moment the Chinese knew they were under attack, and the rest of the chaos ensued. Any alleging ‘scam’ must explain why Russia and Iran, say, play along. rgds

    • 谢谢: anon8383892
    • 回复: @jadan
    , @denk
  70. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Tigertom

    Yeah the China CCP is the leader in thieving science and technologies from the real leader, The USA.

    Would that be the same USA that emptied the contents of the German Patent Office post WWII? You know, Germany, where the most world renown scientists lived.
    Some of what the US did not invent: internal combustion engines (including the Wankel); the automobile; the radio; the airplane; radar; steel mills; and many more, all pre patent theft. Post war, Apple stole MP3 German technology, didn’t invent CT scanners; 3D mass digital scales; mag-lev rail and a host of other things.
    Yes, the US has been a leader in some areas, but not 练习 the leader many. Every discovery is built on the back of something already in existence, and every dog has its day. Today, China is cranking out more new stuff, particularly in the computer related sciences, weekly.
    Where would the US be if China hadn’t invented gun powder? Would there be a 2nd Amendment?

    • 回复: @mike99588
    , @Alden
  71. Mefobills 说:
    @Mustapha Mond

    Good comment Mustapha.

    The banality of evil is often not known until revisionist historians are able to make connections post facto. In the moment people do not have enough information to make informed decisions.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Karl_Rove

    “这不再是世界真正运作的方式了。” 他继续说:“我们现在是一个帝国,当我们采取行动时,我们创造了自己的现实。 当你在研究那个实相时——如你所愿——明智地——我们将再次行动,创造其他新的实相,你也可以研究,这就是事情的解决方式。 我们是历史的演员……你们,你们所有人,都将被留下来研究我们所做的事情。”

    For example, during the French Revolution most of the participants had no idea of what a Jacobian was.

    Or, during the Bolshevik Revolution, most participants had no idea of who Kuhn and Loeb was.

    Or, before WW1 was the machinations of the Milner Group known?

    Or, before WW2, the machinations of Zionists to get Balfour.

    Or, how Focus group had gotten to Churchill with loans.

    Why the evil? It is usually hidden string pullers who are afraid of losing their vaunted position in ruling hierarchy. They may actually think they are doing good, because doing good is defined as “what is good for me, or my in-group.”

    • 同意: Mustapha Mond
  72. Jake 说:
    @Nikola Zrinski

    The ADL and SPLC always raise funds by paying people, virtually all of them Jews, to write or orate things like your comment. They then send the ‘anti-Semitic’ outburst to the hordes of gullible Jews and white liberals and ask for money that is required to fight anti-Semitism.

  73. Sam J. 说:
    @Mustapha Mond

    If we or the Chinese are going to stop this we’re going to have to get rid of the Jews. The Jews are the only people that profit from this. If this or one of their other viruses kills one of your family then the Jews have directly killed your family.

    A vast amount of the problems we have could be sewed up in very quick order if we got rid of the Jews.

  74. Curmudgeon 说:
    @mike99588

    I’m not keen on a lot of stuff from China, but your comment lacks perspective.
    What happened with the melamine milk scandal that killed 6 and damaged approximately 300k? The perp was tried and executed. What has happened in the US with oxyContin which has caused tens of thousands of deaths and ruined up to a million more? Nothing of consequence. The lead paint in/on Marx toys? China – people responsible committed suicide knowing they would be executed. US – Gee we didn’t know, why would we test products to ensure they were being made properly?

    China today is where Japan was in the late 60s and Korea in the late 80s. Huge capacity not so good quality. Japanese and Korean cars used to be crap, now they are the most reliable. US cars used to be the most reliable, now they are crap. The same goes for electronics and even washing machines today.
    China will only get better, just as the Japanese and Koreans did. The orientals have a better sense of “the whole” of the population benefiting. The US, and most of (((the West))) lost that concept long ago.

    • 同意: Godfree Roberts
  75. Sulu 说:

    The level of credibility of authors on this site is in precipitous decline.

    苏鲁

    • 同意: mike99588
    • 巨魔: Godfree Roberts, vot tak
    • 回复: @Sulu
    , @Herald
  76. Sam J. 说:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    “The 5-Eyes governments all need to be told that the USA attacked them, launched bio-warfare against them, is their real enemy.”

    已为您修复。

    The 5-Eyes governments all need to be told that the Jews attacked them, launched bio-warfare against them, is their real enemy.

  77. Sulu 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    Many people that voted Trump did not so much vote for Trump but against Hildabeast. Once again we are faced with an election where Trump is the only logical candidate. Not because he is so great but because the alternative is so awful.

    I am of the opinion that if you are White and don’t vote Trump you are a fool.

    苏鲁

    • 同意: Wally
    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  78. Michael888 说:

    “Tackling Rumors of a Suspicious Origin of nCoV2019” claims covid-19 has been around since ~1980. Amazingly either no one reported deaths for 40 years, or this is all a hoax.
    More likely the furin cleavage site is novel, dating from either before gain-of-function experiments were halted by Moratorium in 2014, or since 1917 when Dr. Fauci and friends restarted these experiments. Lots of papers talk about this novel virus (RmYN02) with an addition in the furin cleavage site area, yet while the amino acid sequence is given, the nucleotide sequence seems strangely missing? The comparison of the 12/10 nucleotide stretch for the furin cleavage site should be compared between RmYN02 and SARScov2 to see how closely related.

    • 回复: @Michael888
    , @skrik
  79. Michael888 说:
    @Michael888

    Should be since 2017 when Moratorium ended with no fanfare.

  80. As I read, I started skimming more and more and when I got to “while the Americans, led by a man who is living proof that democracy is the worst possible form of government“ I stoped reading this commie article altogether. Enjoy your discussion fools!

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Wally
  81. 拉里写的是我自己的研究得出的结论:美国正在用生物武器袭击中国。 甚至比那更糟:美国在进攻世界。 是的,听起来很疯狂,因为控制美国的是疯狂的。 自从冷战v1结束以来,已经出现了一种精神错乱。 它自称为“必不可少的和非凡的”,就像曾经以为自己是“超级伙伴”的另一个人一样。 他们使美国人彼此之间以及对彼此的恐惧和仇恨分裂。 他们使美国军事化,并正在推行只会导致灾难性战争的外交政策。 它的黑人行动组织进行虚假的标志攻击和媒体虚假的新闻叙述来控制人民,并且不管其他国家遭受了多么大的苦难,它也对其他国家进行煽动分裂和混乱以取得控制权。 他们将对世界的耕作和掠夺合理化为“促进民主”。 克林顿,布什和奥巴马在八年中的每位总统都在西亚,北非和其他地方杀害了约XNUMX万人。

    特朗普还没有等于他们。 美国黑人手术机试图将他卷入战争,但他每次都退缩了,美国精英为此恨他。 美国精英知道,疯狂美国帝国延续的窗口正在关闭。 他们的绝望是显而易见的。 他们已采取使用生物武器的步骤。 没有回头路可走了。

    在1990年代苏联解体后,美国就出现了精神错乱。 在911射向俄罗斯,中国,伊朗之后,美国精英人士心中的恶魔开始全面发挥作用。 美国精英正在向中国施加全部力量。 这些精英阶层从美国就业和工业外包给亚洲的工作中受益匪浅,但是现在,选拔工作变得越来越苗条,而且中国如果不遵从命令,并按照自己的方式,同样的美国精英阶层正在鼓舞美国人民反对。俄美联盟,整个美国和北约都无法服从。

    控制美国的两个精英阶层的九头蛇正在发挥自己的作用。 美国精英们愿意破坏人类,以防止失去霸权。 他们全力以赴。 更糟的是即将到来。

    • 回复: @FB
    , @Stonehands
  82. Anon[270]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wordofreason

    So you haven’t noticed yet that’s not a single article issue, but heralding China has become the main theme of this site? It comes even before charging Ashkenazi Jews with the responsibility for all the issues of the West, now.

    • 回复: @anon8383892
  83. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Larry Romanoff

    Thanks for calling attention to this…

    Yes, this is strange and worrisome…as soon as I read Godfree’s comment I clicked through the article links, and they were all okay…

    Which means it must have been specifically Godfree that was either targeted, or having some technical difficulty…

    I too have had some peculiar technical issues with this particular website…

    Well written article btw…thanks…

  84. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Emslander

    Government weenies are one thing…heavy duty operators are quite another…

    Just because you don’t know any of the latter, only means you’re something of a weenie yourself…birds of a feather etc…

    • 回复: @PetrOldSack
  85. Che Guava 说:

    This article seems baseless.

    I took my closest friend to a bar not far from my home, abt. 10 days ago. They were operating w.th external lights out at the time, although they are back on now.

    Food was great, drinks very generous, smoking allowed. The whole point of the total smoking ban was to prevent complaints from Olympics tourists. I know many places that are ignoring it. After all, if Tokyo 2020 even happens, it will be in 2021.

    For reasons of economic stimulus, I hope that it goes ahead.

    一台电视

    • 回复: @Che Guava
    , @Che Guava
  86. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @AriusArmenian

    That’s a very well thought out and well

  87. Taking a communist nation’s media proclamations seriously? Almost as nutty as believing ((( fake news))).

  88. mike99588 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    No gunpowder?

    By the late 1700s, quiet, rapid fire, air rifles were a terror to Napolean, who ordered them all destroyed and banned after conquering enemy armies. (abt 22 quiet, smokeless shots in a minute)

    Jefferson gave one of these air rifles to the Lewis and Clark expedition, immensely aiding its survival. Hostile indians always kept a respectful manner and distance after a “friendly” demonstration…

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
    , @HeebHunter
  89. Che Guava 说:
    @Che Guava

    ran in the background. Every second sentence included the words for ‘novel corona virus’ in Japanese. Nobody was wearing a mask, several started to laugh.

    Last weekend, I went to a live music show, not that I knew any of the performers, but to support the manager and chief stage tech. (who I do know).

    Again, with the exception of one man in a plastic visor and another in a mask, nobody wore a mask.

    Everybody is sick of this paranoia.

    Perhaps I will regret my words when I start coughing my lungs out this weekend, but I plan to spend it in the same way.

    • 回复: @trickster
  90. @FB

    If one has an agenda, one does not linger here. No leverage, or insignificant second rate leverage. The authors, as the commenters both are second tier. The question is why one does not have a first tier agenda. Out of principle, as a sport(contrarians), being an outlier for well defined reasons? The problem increments from commenters(the lesser effort), to authors, bloggers, zinies, who definitely must sustain themselves before anything else. Most are thus middle-class Jews, and the audience in grand part of middle class Jews keeps them alive. Pathologies, bigger then Corona, as Karlin, Sailer point the way. Admittedly this Larry Something made a first rate effort at it, but then he does not come back daily to haunt the day.

    Most “intellectuals”, “thinkers” have half a page of original sin in a life-time in them. Go figure how to spill words as a winding river. The water is fresh, the bedding is old.

  91. This is either Soros funded propaganda or sick parody from the minds of a mentally ill cabal. But why would anyone take the time to write such drivel? No proof just wild accusations. I pity the poor soul that wastes his time writing such crap.

  92. gavishti 说:

    这篇文章的作者是错误的,当他说《环球时报》本身指出第二波来自一种绝对新的病毒株时–

    “已经确定了目前在世界上占主导地位的冠状病毒突变是北京最近一次COVID-19爆发的原因,专家说这表明该病毒是从中国境外进口的。”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192456.shtml

    中国的交通和贸易仍在发生,那么COV2不会随之带来的机会是多少? 毕竟中国还没有孤立。

    根据这份科学论文,就病毒的起源而言,

    https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

    “那么RaTG13是从哪里来的呢? 正如我已经提到的,史正立在2020年报告说,她于2013年从云南马蹄蝠(犀牛亲属,而不是通常的嫌疑人R. sinicus)中分离出它。 但是直到2020年13月,这种菌株的存在才为人所知,下面是石正立的研究小组如何描述他们对RaTG2与CoVXNUMX相似性的发现:

    ``Simplot分析显示,2019-CoV2在整个基因组中与RaTG13非常相似(图1c),整体基因组序列同一性为96.2%。''

    本文的作者得出以下结论:

    相反的问题是,是否在实验室中合成COV2也值得重复:关于病毒完全自然起源的逆假设也没有强有力的证据。 直到找到RaTG13,pangolin-2019和CoV2之间的中间祖先,在其中我们可以追踪我们在CoV2中观察到的镶嵌重组之前,其起源问题仍然悬而未决。”

    因此,总而言之,COVID-19的中国血统不可忽视。 此外,Covid 19显然是通过实验室或自然起源于中国而来的,显然不是为了一个有趣的阴谋论而得出的答案。

  93. Alden 说:
    @refl

    No one permitted to leave or enter, checked and reported daily, food and necessities delivered and distributed; what does this resemble?

    Prison!!!!

  94. anon[385]• 免责声明 说:

    Are we to tell ourselves it was merely a run of bad luck that China was the only nation in the world to be hit repeatedly with so many different biological pathogens in such a short time?

    那是一种看待它的方式。

    Another way of looking at that same set of facts, plus the fact that China is playing catch up in Biological Warfare with legacy empires of English-Zion and Russia; the fact that Chinese scientist are engaged in China and elsewhere working on “BioDefense”, merely indicate an emerging empire is making rookie mistakes and having unintended releases. You can be sure the legacy empires had their little accidents when they started making Biological Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    None of these arrogant nations, whether legacy empires of English-Zion, or Russia, or the new commer China have a fig leaf to hide behind. They are making terrible weapons. They would be parriah states on a normal planet.

    • 回复: @Vidi
  95. gavishti 说:

    这篇文章的作者是错误的,当他说《环球时报》本身指出第二波来自一种绝对新的病毒株时–

    “已经确定了目前在世界上占主导地位的冠状病毒突变是北京最近一次COVID-19爆发的原因,专家说这表明该病毒是从中国境外进口的。”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192456.shtml

    中国的交通和贸易仍在发生,那么COV2不会随之带来的机会是多少? 毕竟中国还没有孤立。

    就病毒的起源而言
    根据这份科学论文–

    https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

    “那么RaTG13是从哪里来的呢? 正如我已经提到的,史正立在2020年报告说,她于2013年从云南马蹄蝠(犀牛亲属,而不是通常的嫌疑人R. sinicus)中分离出它。 但是直到2020年13月,这种菌株的存在才为人所知,下面是石正立的研究小组如何描述他们对RaTG2与CoVXNUMX相似性的发现:

    ``Simplot分析显示,2019-CoV2在整个基因组中与RaTG13非常相似(图1c),整体基因组序列同一性为96.2%。''

    本文的作者得出以下结论:

    相反的问题是,是否在实验室中合成COV2也值得重复:关于病毒完全自然起源的逆假设也没有强有力的证据。 直到找到RaTG13,pangolin-2019和CoV2之间的中间祖先,在其中我们可以追踪我们在CoV2中观察到的镶嵌重组之前,其起源问题仍然悬而未决。”

    因此,总而言之,COVID-19的中国起源
    不可忽视。 此外,Covid 19显然是通过实验室或自然起源于中国而来的,显然不是为了一个有趣的阴谋论而得出的答案。

    • 不同意: Biff
    • 巨魔: vot tak
  96. Alden 说:
    @Bombercommand

    Chinese idiom for husband “Thing I have to endure so I can feed my children. “

    • 巨魔: vot tak
  97. Alden 说:
    @Culpepper

    哈德逊湾的毯子,海象的爱斯基摩雕塑和豌豆罐头汤? 如果他们要买轮胎,我怀疑这对夫妇是游客。 游客租车,他们不拥有和维护汽车。

  98. Herald 说:
    @mike99588

    You must be very busy going through life doing all that checking.

    • 巨魔: mike99588
  99. Herald 说:
    @Bombercommand

    Very fortunately for the enemies of The United States, I do not work for the CIA.

    If only you hadn’t flunked the interview, things could have been so different.

  100. Jeff Davis 说:

    Let’s go deeper down the rabbit hole.

    About 20 years ago I thought to myself, regarding American competition with China, “How are we going to deal with this? The low labor cost in China means they’re going out-compete us on price on everything.” The “solutions” that occurred to me at the time were either nuke ’em back to the stone age — which seemed harsh– or wait til rising Chinese wage rates met falling US wages, at which point Americans would be competitive again.

    But that was 20 years ago. The outsourcing of US jobs had not yet destroyed the lives of millions of Americans. So I filed my thought and went on my way.

    Now 20 years later, the death-worshiping neocons to have been far more creative.

    You can’t nuke ’em because they have deterrent. And you can’t wage conventional warfare. Conventional war on the Asian continent is assessed as problematic. (One data point: China is 30x the size of Vietnam. Just sayin’.) Either of these direct military assaults demands retaliation. Which leads to escalation which leads to Apocalyptic Road Warrior outcomes and Leadership by the Humongous. Not an option.

    So, how to keep China down? How about a little bioweapons attack? Something that ravages their country but appears to be a natural occurrence? Or at least plausibly deniable. Hmmmmmm. Gotta think about that. You may have something there.

    Do we have an antidote to this bio-weapon? A vaccine, maybe? No? Isn’t that a problem? Won’t it come back over here and bite us on the ass? You think they’ll be caught with their pants down, totally by surprise, and it’ll tear them a new one. Whereas we will be prepared for it and suffer only modest and acceptable levels of civilian casualties, 10 to 20 million tops. (Hmmmmm. Why does that sound familiar to me?)

    What’s more, when it comes over here, (after we plant it over there, wink wink), we’ll simply blame it on them. We’ll get out in front of the “Who’s to blame?” issue by feigning righteous outrage at the “evil commies”, and blame it on them. Put them on the back foot right from the start. By the time they figure out it was us, our gullible rubes will be fuming in rage, totally convinced the CCP did it. Plus, as the innocent victims of their monstrous evil, we’ll be able to sue them for damages. Get court settlements against them, and “seize” — cancel out actually — the trillion or so dollars of US Treasury Bonds they hold.

    And if they get pissy and pull some shit, well, we’ll just use that as an excuse to nuke them back to the stone age.

    • 回复: @skrik
    , @glib
  101. Alden 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    Would be nice if China could crank out \$5,000 refrigerators that don’t stop stop in 4 years and can’t be repaired.

    • 回复: @Ber
  102. Stonehands 说:
    @AriusArmenian

    太棒了感谢您提交此文件并像一个他妈的男人/女人一样站起来,并拒绝遵守警察国家信徒的直言不讳。

  103. Pft 说:

    因此,我们被认为是该病毒在欧洲和美国自由传播了数月,之后才被发现,并没有造成过多的死亡,然后跳到武汉,再到湖北以外的其他地方。 然后,它被聪明的中国医生发现,然后爆炸,由勇敢的中国当局救助了中国其他地区,从而将武汉和湖北封锁起来,因此在湖北以外,他们只有小规模的爆发,直到现在(被不负责任的西方假民主国家所感染)。

    您确实知道,武汉是中国国内和国际上的主要旅游枢纽。 每天有成千上万的旅客进出武汉,每天有数以万计的旅客往返于美国/欧洲/中国(直到最近)。 在21世纪,病毒传播迅速。 即使是西班牙流感,赫克也迅速周游世界,并在头7个月内杀死了数千万人。 然而,尽管自从XNUMX月以来一直存在(大约与美国和意大利相同),但仅在中国的一小部分地区就出现了很大的传播

    但是我们被认为是在意大利和美国,尽管这种病毒在2月中旬中国(武汉)爆炸前3-1个月就在传播,但直到2-XNUMX个月后才发生自己的爆炸。

    奇怪的是,在每种情况下,鉴于测试的不准确性和可用性,过量死亡是最准确的指标,仅在锁定后才发生。 正是在这一点上,医生开始遵循现在已知的COVID方案,以加速重症患者的死亡,而封锁所带来的沉重负担导致了自杀,经济压力和缺乏医疗保健所致的死亡,这被非COVID患者拒绝了。 ,并在遇到心脏病或中风时延迟去急诊室。

    此外,我们应该忘记中国和美国在GOF研究方面的合作,该研究旨在使蝙蝠冠状病毒易于在人与人之间传播,而中国的主要BSL-4实验室位于武汉的零地带附近。

    让我提出一个理论。 该病毒于XNUMX月或更早或更早在中国和美国同时发布。 它在全球范围内迅速传播,但由于它不是致病性极高,因此并未引起人们的注意。 可以通过测试检测到的只是一种新的冠状病毒,但不能仅通过症状来检测,因为它基本上只是另一种感冒或流感。

    所谓的暴发,只是当局决定制造暴发的方便时间(中国已经在人们回家后的农历新年之前选择了)。 美国等到超级碗之后和复活节之前。 它具有测试和报告功能,定时最大程度地提高恐怖程度。 由于该病毒是地方性且广泛传播的,因此测试将检测到病例,更多的测试将检测到更多的病例。

    但没有过多的死亡。 如何做到这一点,因为如果没有尸体,骗局就无法持续足够长的时间来强制接种疫苗,以及他们试图施加的结构变化和财务重置?

    如上所述,一种协议可以杀死患者,然后进行锁定,从而增加各种原因导致的死亡。 答对了。

    第二波将更加相同。 更多案例? 做更多的测试。 需要更多的尸体吗? 施加更多锁定。

    • 同意: TheTrumanShow
    • 巨魔: vot tak
    • 回复: @glib
  104. Blackjack 说:
    @Emily

    Zero Hedge has completely changed its character. I read somewhere that the original Bulgarian owner sold to someone, but I haven’t been able to find any corroborating evidence. That would explain your observation. Do you have any knowledge of a sale, and, if so, to whom?

    • 回复: @Republic
  105. @Old and Grumpy

    Explain in an intelligent and concise manner why eating dog is wrong and not eating pigs. I hear people claim it is because dogs are smart and have emotion. Pigs are smarter than domestic dogs and are measured to have more “feelings”. Both animals are “filthy”. So explain the difference. (just for the record I don’t eat either).

    • 回复: @FvS
  106. @denk

    They blame jews – blacks – chinese for everything… Sometimes all at the same time.

    • 回复: @denk
    , @FB
  107. Republic 说:
    @Blackjack

    That Bulgarian Daniel Ivandiiski still runs Zero Hedge.

    Last week google blocked all ads for racist comments.

    It is true that over the years many former readers who made comments were purged. Mostly for anti jewish/zionist comments.

    The owners of ZH said that they might close down the comment section.

    That Bulgarian used to be a stock broker but was kicked out for insider trading.

    • 回复: @sarz
  108. @Alfred

    Buying tires across the world is as silly as believing someone who claims Chinese don’t like made in Chinese products because though he speaks no Chinese the woman happened to say “made in china” in English.. LOLOL. That is a pathetic reach actually. Besides the numbers show the opposite. In almost every field “made in china” products are growing.

  109. @mike99588

    Examples of massive cheating–especially those that impoverish millions of people–are almost exclusively perpetrated by American financial institutions, not Chinese.

    The Melamine adulteration was years ago, limited to a few dozens cases, and resulted in the executions of the perps–unlike Vioxx and Oxycontin, which have killed millions.

    I, too, have seen examples of deal-breaking cheating that cost American companies bigger opportunities. So has anyone who’s been in business.

    There is no law against copying. There are 形式 of copying that are illegal and, in such cases, Chinese perps are rare, as court records prove.

    They’re ahead of us, in any case, and don’t need to copy anything. According to the the sinophobic Japan Science and Technology Agency, by 2016 China already led the world in math, engineering, chemistry and computer science and was neck-and-neck with the US in physics. The JSTA took the top ten of the most referenced studies in each field, and determined the number of authors who were affiliated with the U.S., the U.K., Germany, France, China or Japan. China ranked first in computer science, mathematics, materials science and engineering. The U.S. led in physics, environmental and earth sciences, basic life science and clinical medicine. https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-ties-the-US-as-the-most-influential-nation-in-science.

    艾伦人工智能研究所 (Ai2) 不仅检查了来自中国的人工智能研究论文的数量,还检查了这些论文的质量——根据他们在其他工作中获得的引用次数来判断。 研究表明,中国将在今年的研究论文中超过美国的 50%、明年的研究论文的前 10%、到 1 年的前 2025%。中国在人工智能专利数量上已经领先提交,人工智能风险投资投资,并在全球范围内引用研究论文。 中国学习人工智能并从全球大学毕业的学生人数超过了其他国家人工智能学生总数的总和。 https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/03/13/136642/china-may-overtake-the-us-with-the-best-ai-research-in-just-two-years/

    一份重要的新报告显示,中国已经超过美国,成为世界上最大的科研论文生产国,几乎占全球总产量的五分之一。 https://www.stm-assoc.org/document-library/

    世界知识产权组织 WIPO 对 167 所大学和公立研究型大学的专利申请排名前 500 名。 其中110项专利来自中国,20项来自美国,19项来自韩国。 在 30 个最热门技术领域发表的最高引用研究论文的全球排名中,中国占据主导地位。 https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_941_2018.pdf

  110. Johan 说:

    Isn’t it convenient, the success story of a country, battling the virus threat, China, which is a communist dictatorship with controlled capitalism (you need to feed the consumerism and materialism, but in a controlled manner), and heading toward a technocracy. The Western elites love it, no amount of cocaine from Latin America grants them such power kicks of establishing the Chinese model in the Western world, and running it. Their heads are by now almost exploding from the kick of anticipation and success.

    • 回复: @NobodyUKnow
  111. FvS 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    在中国做生意的感觉如何。

    [更多]

    • 回复: @HeebHunter
    , @Godfree Roberts
  112. @Larry Romanoff

    Thanks for checking. I was beginning to doubt my own eyes.

    I wonder if Larry uses Yandex for email?

  113. FvS 说:
    @showmethereal

    曾经有过守卫猪吗? 曾经用猪打猎吗? 曾经和你的猪一起玩取球吗?

  114. @Godfree Roberts

    Dear Genius LR,
    Democracy is what allowed you to publish anti-american conspiracy theory here. Authoritarian China would never publish this in the opposite scenario. You’re a good comedian

    • 回复: @Meena
    , @Godfree Roberts
  115. @Larry Romanoff

    Larry, I’m working on an article that may explain, or at least lend credence to, your suggestion that this topic is worth the attention of serious spooks.

    It’s a USG Covid conspiracy that’s hiding in plain sight and is fascinating for its blatancy and the degree to which it is being ignored.

  116. vot tak 说:

    Useful analysis from Romanoff, and going by the hostility from israel’s foaming, faggot freakshow to it, probably close to the truth.

    • 回复: @denk
  117. Meena 说:

    “ “I think the Beidou-3 system being operational is a big event,” Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, told AFP.

    “This is a big investment from China and makes China independent of US and European systems,” McDowell said.

    Tens of millions of smartphones to drones to guided farm equipment to vessels to automated cars to even missiles can now use the new location service. “
    Zerohedge.com

    China is slowly and inexorably moving to take the place US has been forced from within to vacate .

    • 同意: Godfree Roberts
  118. @Larry Romanoff

    No known program has the ability or the inclination to substitute a live website link with the instructions to open someone’s email account without a password. That is damned sophisticated espionage.

    It’s not remotely sophisticated; in fact since it’s easily detectable (i.e., your mail app opens) it’s extremely un复杂的。

    The most obvious means of getting this sort of thing done is replacing http://[whatever]mailto://[whatever, or something else] in the HREF for embedded links.

    Doing this will open the mail client, but won’t do anything else because it can’t hit ‘Send’. A slightly ‘smarter’ version would actually be able to set up recipients, and mimic hitting ‘Send’ on the new e-mail payload. And then delete the Sent mail, of course.

    .

    This can be done either ‘on the fly’ with Javascript (likely to be a client-level thing), or using a 301 (redirect) at the server level.

    Since it’s happening to a subset of users, it’s obviously ‘client side’ in this case – which means that some users have been victims of a browser exploit at some stage.

    This is relatively easy to do in a ‘drive by’ – where a site is set up to install malicious JS the moment a user lands on the site. Drive-bys usually infect a plugin/extension with known vulnerabilities – e.g., Flash Player.

    Since everyone knows about CVE-2020-0041 (the Chrome ‘sandbox’ exploit and credential escalation), users with unpatched browsers and stored SMTP credentials (or using open SMTP relays, like GMail) are basically lining up to be part of an email botnet… although frankly mass-email botnets are well past its use-by date (these days, people don’t even use browser hijacks to use the device as part of a crypto-mining botnet… it’s not worth the effort).

    .

    Don’t be too hard on yourself: datasec is hard.

    Ask the folks who just had millions of documents liberated, despite spending a total of hundreds of million of dollars on security. (“乡亲们“… that would be “hundreds of US law enforcement agencies”和“millions of documents” goes by the name of “蓝泄“. Fucking amateurs)

    • 谢谢: Uomiem
    • 回复: @donut
  119. Herald 说:
    @Emslander

    The official COVID-19 narrative is long dead in the water. Clearly the swarm of official narrative gatekeepers now obviously flocking to this site is proof enough of that.

    • 同意: Alfred
  120. trickster 说:
    @Che Guava

    You wont regret your words. I have only worn a mask where I had to ie for shopping because the store will not let me in. I believe in the statistics rather than the bullshit the politicians, bloggers and experts shovel out. So:
    -As a % of population the infection rate is miniscule
    -As a % of infection rate the death rate is miniscule
    -Therefore as death as a % of population is so small as to be dismissive
    -The death rate is inflated ie Billy dies from an STD and is deemed dead from Corona
    -Older people with diagnosed chronic disease are deemed dead from Corona

    Hence even the miniscule % dead vs population is over inflated. Couple all that with the bullshit stories the press puts out:
    -Animals in the zoo tested positive including the parrots and manatee
    -The virus spread in a Hong Kong apartment building through the sewer pipes ie someone on the 15th floor took a dump, the virus escaped when he flushed and Wang Yu on floor 12 was infected
    -The sun kills the virus but we should all stay inside
    -Masks work, then they dont, then they do, then they might
    -Millions will die, hospitals are overwhelmed etc
    -Then its Corona Chan, Corona Chin, Corona Cheech and Chond, second wave and more and more idiocy

    And the list rocks and rolls on. Now that the rioting etc is dying down and people are asking “Floyd who?” we are back to the corona shit. Note that Fauci has made a reappearance and the news carries all the old crap with people hugging and crying etc

    It is such a crock of shit as to be incredible but we dont teach people to THINK these days, only to regurgitate what they read in a text book. So whatever they are told is what they believe, swallow and barf up.

    I dont know anyone who was even infected and I dont know anyone who knows anyone who was infected. The whole thing is a jack off job made even more ludicrous by Romanov and Karlin with their mountain of graphs and charts which turned out to be sheer nonsense

    结论:
    -Once the Mueller Russian collusion turned out to be a hoax
    -Corona made its appearance
    -Once that topic started to get boring and people rebelled at being locked up we had
    -Arbery which did not do much so Floyd came along
    -Now Floyd is turning out to be a dreadful bore we are back to Corona strain 1, strain 2 etc

    Once that plays out we’ll have some other time and life wasting “crisis” to deal with which will in its turn evolve into utter shit as well.

    You and I and most of the other Unz readers will die from falling out of our rocking chairs or playing bingo at a ripe old age. I say this to one and all from the Trickster who has experienced first hand that this life we have is truly in the hands of God whether you believe in him or whatever name you call him.

    When he opens his agenda for the day and your name appears on that date, Corona or no fucking Corona you are going down !

    • 回复: @Che Guava
    , @FemCrim
    , @FemCrim
  121. Meena 说:
    @BrokenheartAmerican

    Tell that to Assagne, Snowden, to Chelsea Manning . Tell that to John Kiriakou. Those lawyers who fought for Guantanamo detainees will love to hear the good news .

  122. trickster 说:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Yes it is racist. It is also racist to have a picture of your dog, to give your dog a name but not your pig or pet chicken and to have a leash and muzzle on your dog but not Rufus the Rooster. It is also discriminatory to eat the dog but not the pig.

    We are at the stage where using toilet paper to wipe our ass, if said toilet paper has a photo of a white person, could be construed as white privilege ?? Did I get that right ? Who knows !

    In any case I understand that dog is tasty if you get them young. When they are old, lean and mangy from running all over China city they are not very delectable or edible but hey, you never know, these people have some strange culinary tastes !

    Biff, a resident commentator on Unz is a Chinaman . We should ask him. He claims Chinese are smart. Perhaps eating the shit they do causes some derangement in brain function resulting in these dramatic assertions. Again who knows.

    What I do know is that in shopping around for a house, the buyer better be sure his neighbour is not Asian or he may wonder of there is a connection between his missing mutt and that barbecue smell coming from next door.

    • 哈哈: Corporal Punishment
  123. Ber 说:
    @Alden

    迪拜的一些阿拉伯人说,中国以不同的价格出售三种不同品质的相同商品。 显然,中国人对与定价相关的品质很坦率,让买家可以根据自己的口袋大小进行选择。

  124. Curmudgeon 说:
    @mike99588

    Something else the US didn’t invent. Like the Wankel engine, if the Giardoni rifle were really that simple to operate, beffective and reliable, all gunpowder weapons would have ceased production.

    • 回复: @Alfred
  125. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Sulu

    I have no skin in the game, I’m an observer. As bad as Ralph Nadar was, he would still be a better candidate than Trump or Clinton.

  126. sally 说:
    @Cat

    我敢肯定,与中国一样,俄罗斯再次播种了另一个品种,以进行第二次尝试。
    从历史上看,病毒爆发不会以这种方式表现

    几天内同时感染
    第一波 25 个国家集中在 25 月 XNUMX 日。
    第二波 85 个国家集中在 25 月 XNUMX 日。

    需要解释的观察
    天然病毒无法同时(三天内)
    感染世界各大洲的 85 个不同国家。
    更没有自我变异的能力,对人类具有传染性
    而大年三十是出击的最佳时机。
    对于这些,冠状病毒需要帮助的“黑手”。

    建议采取的行动:<= 停止假装 COVID-19 是自然事故,

    冠状病毒感染是由病毒本身的 S1-S2 分子引起的。 病毒分子的S1部分有打开和关闭两种模式。 当打开病毒分子的S1部分与ACE-2受体相互作用时,如果能找到一个; 在与人类宿主细胞 ACE-2 受体接触时,病毒 S1 部分的 s1-S2 分子会将受害者细胞表面受体(ACE-2 受体)的一部分移动到一侧。 这发生在人类宿主细胞的表面。 S1 阻止受体,它允许病毒分子的快速移动的 S2 部分绕过 ACE-2 受体,并抓住并结合到受害者的细胞膜上,即人体细胞,然后病毒及时获得进入细胞并将其致命的病毒毒液转移到人类宿主细胞中。 细胞防御被躲过了。

    许多细胞类型通过其细胞表面突出 ACE-2 受体,因此突出的受体可以充当细胞膜表面安装的天线; 受体等待信号或与分子接触的地方
    发生。 这些接触发生在人体细胞膜的外部。 因此,这种类型的受体是细胞表面天线,它作为一个插座将细胞的内脏连接到全球互联网。 许多受体还将货物和服务运送到人类宿主细胞中,并将废物和其他货物和服务输出到外部。 但在这里我们谈论的是细胞膜表面的膜防止无根据的物质(病毒就是其中之一)进入细胞的能力。

    在不讨论 ACE-2 受体的功能的情况下,应该可以理解发生感染是因为人类宿主细胞容易受到病毒分子的攻击。 讨论是关于一个失败的
    细胞自身的防御系统,病毒分子S1破坏防御,为病毒S2与人类宿主细胞膜连接和结合扫清了道路。 病毒分子的 S2 部分利用了病毒分子的 S1 部分清除的路径。 一旦病毒与人类宿主细胞膜结合,内部细胞就会受到损害,病毒就无法继续复制……它以极快的速度复制……

    但这种复制发生在一个人体内。为了感染下一个人,含有复制病毒的细胞或病毒本身需要与被感染的受害者接触,然后它必须成功侵入体内至少一个细胞人类受害者。

    这需要时间.. 感染者的细胞罩在几天内找到 200 英里外的受害者的可能性很小。

    所以同一种病毒必须同时有不同的释放,才能使不同城市的感染率大致相同。

    居住在四川洞穴蝙蝠中的病毒需要同时以某种方式接触不同地点的人。

    是否有可能通过或通过卫星或 5g 手机信号塔对病毒进行基因工程?

    我有遗传学方面的经验,并且经常注意到突然发生的可疑转变。 我可以想象一个被编程控制病毒复制过程的卫星可以被调整来控制和基因工程病毒复制。

    5g 塔有能力引导非常强大的通电光束。

    所以存在被克服的可能性来否定你的假设。 病毒粒子的运输对于同时分开定位的感染现象是必不可少的。 改写假设:

    假设:ElectoOptiomotive 力量可以针对和指导基因转化。

    • 回复: @skrik
  127. Curmudgeon 说:
    @FvS

    Pigs are used for hunting truffles. Whether someone uses them as guard pigs or plays fetch with them is up to the pig’s owner. Geese are more effective guards than some dogs, but people eat them too.
    菲律宾人以吃狗而闻名,韩国人也是如此。
    Many cultures have odd foods. Icelanders eat horses, rancid shark that has been buried in sand, and pickled ram’s testicles. Like dogs, those would not be on my list of things to eat, but I doubt the Icelanders would give a shit.

    • 回复: @FvS
  128. @skrik

    PS对文章中某些观点的有趣扩展是,由于病毒感染已经遍及全球,因此,如果这是人为的[我最好的提示],那么无论是谁造成的[=显然是流氓国家特工]都造成了100万人的死亡, *including their own people*! brrr

    Not at all surprised…it’s part of Agenda 21.

  129. Wally 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Clueless Romanoff said:

    “Twenty-six states are already experiencing dramatic spikes reaching new records each day, so Trump ordered the CDC to “stop testing” because it makes him look bad.”

    除了:
    Fauci: ‘None of Us Have Ever Been Told to Slow Down on Testing’: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/23/fauci-none-of-us-have-ever-been-told-to-slow-down-on-testing/

    – And of course, if you do more testing for anything you’re bound to find more of it.

  130. HeebHunter 说:
    @mike99588

    Even today the best commercial air rifle that can be held by a man has the muzzle energy of a .45 acp and is .50 cal

    闭嘴吧。

    • 回复: @mike99588
  131. Anon[346]• 免责声明 说:

    Not buying the article; there were little inconsistencies here and there but the main reason I don’t buy it is because no sane country in the world would introduce a deadly virus into Wuhan simply because it is one of the main transport hubs for air travel in the world.
    Btw, I watched the Trump in Tulsa video and he was in great form, so my prediction is that after the three scheduled debates with Biden (at a loss for words) Trump will win the November election. Could be worse – could be Hillary except that by now even the Democrats must realize that if Hillary were suggested for VP their loss would be a forgone conclusion. The one who is going to run the country after Biden is gently pushed out is the same same one whom Tulsi pretty much destroyed in debate before Tulsi was forced out by the DNC. Not to worry, Trump will win.

    • 回复: @Sulu
  132. HeebHunter 说:
    @FvS

    如果没有发现像我们这样的人为中介的超人类垃圾已经在该网站上侵扰了很长时间并且完全以kike lover supreme(((trump)))表现出来,那将是很好的。

  133. HeebHunter 说:
    @FvS

    Boars were and have always been one of world’s most fierce and heroic animals. Especially Europe.

    猪玩取球。

    对重要牲畜的非理性仇恨是多么大。
    您确定您不是那些沙漠闪族中的一员吗?
    With muttmerica classifying North Africans and Arabs as “white” since a hundres years ago, you never know.

    • 回复: @FvS
  134. @Parbes

    The truth hurts but it will set you free … idiot!

    • 回复: @Parbes
  135. Wally 说:
    @Wordofreason

    - 确实。

    – And like all the other unhinged Communists with TDS, he offers no proof whatsoever against Trump.

    Pollster John McLaughlin: Mainstream Media Polls ‘Skewed’ to ‘Water Down the Trump Vote’: https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/14/trump-pollster-john-mclaughlin-mainstream-media-polls-skewed-to-water-down-the-trump-vote/

  136. @jadan

    Why would the US target its own population in the process?

    The US kakistocracy serves the 1%. Another 40% tag along for the “Capitalism” ride. If you examine the recent deaths WITH Covid, the majority are either old age with underlying health problems (soon to die anyway) or “undesireables” in society (i.e. poor, over weight, black, drug addicts etc..). The current sacrifice of Americans is no different than what happened during the Vietnam War. Combat units (drafts) were expendable and led into dangerous and deadly combat situations so the Officers could get “killing vietcong” points for promotion. That is until the “fragging” started.
    Take a drive to cottage country or any upper and/or upper middle class neighbourhoods and you will see with your own eyes ZERO problems. Lawns are being cut and people are enjoying the lockdown with their family and loved ones safe in the knowledge that their good health and nutrition will see them through this “plan-demic”.

  137. Sulu 说:
    @Sulu

    We know the virus originated in bats; that much is confirmed,

    You must have the mental capacity of a turnip if you think the above statement made by the author must be taken at face value and cannot be called into doubt. That would indicate the author either doesn’t really know what he is talking about or he is spreading propaganda in an effort to establish that the virus existed in the wild as opposed to being released by some anonymous actor as an act of bio-terrorism. Either way it means the author cannot be taken seriously. Much like yourself.

    My original statement stands, and you demonstrate your complete lack of intellect by attempting to label me a troll.

    苏鲁

  138. Sulu 说:
    @Anon

    I don’t buy it is because no sane country in the world would introduce a deadly virus into Wuhan

    The operative word in that sentence is 理智的。 I don’t think we can say that all the people in power in America, or the world for that matter, are sane.

    I once asked one of my Psychology professors, “What happens to sociopaths?”
    He replied that the dumb ones end up in prison or dead and the smart ones end up in positions of power in government.

    苏鲁

  139. glib 说:
    @Pft

    令我震惊的是,有人注意到超额的死亡曲线滞后于锁定时间,也滞后于骗局现场世界时标。 这是了解已完成操作的关键。

  140. FvS 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    中国人不只是吃狗。 他们把它们煮沸。 而且,我认为,多年来猪或鹅的实用性和与人类同伴的作用无法与狗相提并论。 与普通的宠物相比,马更像是负担的野兽,但仍然被认为对许多人不利。

  141. FvS 说:
    @HeebHunter

    您确定您不是那些沙漠闪族中的一员吗?

    不。 我爱猪肉。

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
  142. jadan 说:
    @skrik

    If the thesis of the article is correct than there will be no end to this pandemic or a new one that follows or develops concurrently. Official pronouncements that the virus occurred naturally serve the purpose of stopping a global biological war from developing. This was an accidental release. Genetic engineering has come a long way since the time Saddam Hussein declared bio/chemical warfare would be a poor country’s answer to nuclear weapons. Look at CRISPR technology, which makes editing genomes easier than ever! The quick and effective response of the Chinese is explained by the fact that they knew what they were dealing with. They did not create massive new medical infrastructure in just two weeks because they were guessing what they were up against. They knew what they were dealing with because they developed it and it got out of hand. I agree with the assessment of Francis Boyle. There are no innocents in this global bioweapons race. If Romanoff is correct, we’re in really bad trouble. I like the accident scenario.

    • 回复: @skrik
    , @Vidi
  143. @FvS

    就像这样:

    在我们的美国工厂,对装配工的唯一要求是高中文凭,美国公民身份,通过毒品和犯罪背景检查以及简单的装配测试:查看装配工程图,然后将各个零件组装在一起。

    尽管绝大多数美国申请人无法完成组装测试,但在中国,他们只需一半的时间就可以完成组装测试,并且100%的申请人通过了测试。

    要在美国雇用装配工,每天将需要进行三十次面试,并产生XNUMX个拒绝,更不用说所有HR装配工从班次,过多的迟到,偷窃,工作速度慢和态度差等方面的麻烦了。

    The position starts at \$12 an hour in flyover country which is pretty reasonable compared to other jobs that only require a GED and no prior work experience. It offers medical, dental and annual raises with plenty of opportunity to move up in the company and earn an average Production Assembler salary, \$33,029, if they stay beyond five years.

    在中国,相同职位的工资与其他职位的工资相同,只有高中以上学历,没有工作经验。

    然而,申请人的素质要高得多,这也适用于白领支持专业人员:调度人员,质量检查人员,设备测试人员和校准人员,工程师,供应链经理,客户经理,销售人员。

    他们的劳动质量简直更高。

    归根结底,高端和中型制造业并没有转移到美国或墨西哥,因为天桥国家的普通工人无法满足二十一世纪制造业的需求。

  144. denk 说:
    @vot tak

    The stupid cunt 真的没有狗屎 and his ilks are WTS, White Trash Supremacists.

    我怎么知道 ?
    They always swear at the Jews…
    and the Chinese.

  145. 109.Pft says:

    “Curiously, in every case , excess deaths, which are the most accurate indicator , given the inaccuracy and availability of tests , only occurred after lock downs.”

    I don’t believe this statement is true. Brazil and Sweden are two examples of disasters due to no lockdown. For the Nordic countries, comparing equal population numbers, Sweden’s infections are 250% of Norway or Denmark and deaths are 1,000%.

    “Furthermore, we are supposed to forget China and US collaborated on GOF research meant to make coronaviruses from bats easily transmittable to and between people and that Chinas main BSL-4 lab was located near the Wuhans Ground Zero.”

    This above statement of yours is false in its entirety. No evidence exists to support such a claim of mal-intent. And the US Consulate is located much closer to the Wuhan Market than is the University. There is as much evidence to support a claim the virus orginated in the US Consulate as in the Wuhan University, which is to say none at all.

    Posting factual nonsense is not helpful to promoting understanding.

    .

    These are the Two Waves (in terms of first breakout):

    The First Wave simultaneously infected 25 nations or territories within a few days centered around January 25. The infected areas: Macau, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Vietnam, South Korea, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Cambodia, Nepal, Malaysia, Australia, Thailand, Canada, Germany, Italy, the UK, France, Spain, Belgium, Russia, Finland, and the UAE.

    一个月后。 第二波在85月25日前后的几天内同时感染了XNUMX个国家。受感染的国家:奥地利,荷兰,瑞士,葡萄牙,卢森堡,摩纳哥,圣马力诺,梵蒂冈,列支敦士登,马耳他,新西兰,巴基斯坦,阿富汗,印度尼西亚,孟加拉国,马尔代夫,不丹,安道尔,保加利亚,白俄罗斯,立陶宛,波兰,匈牙利,乌克兰,捷克共和国,斯洛文尼亚,拉脱维亚,克罗地亚,爱沙尼亚,北马其顿,格鲁吉亚,罗马尼亚,波斯尼亚和黑塞哥维那,斯洛伐克,塞尔维亚,摩尔多瓦,阿尔巴尼亚,埃及,伊拉克,阿曼,巴林,科威特,黎巴嫩,卡塔尔,沙特阿拉伯,约旦,巴勒斯坦,冰岛,厄瓜多尔,亚美尼亚,挪威,丹麦,哥斯达黎加,秘鲁,哥伦比亚,墨西哥,多米尼加共和国,巴拉圭,智利,巴西,阿根廷,尼日利亚,多哥,喀麦隆,塞内加尔,阿尔及利亚,南非,摩洛哥和突尼斯。 大约一周后,科索沃,纳米比亚,乌拉圭,苏丹,埃塞俄比亚,莱索托,玻利维亚,巴拿马,刚果民主共和国,蒙古,布基纳法索,文莱和塞浦路斯同时并发。

    Travel cannot account for this.

  146. @Anon

    With respect to great-power adversaries, it’s hard to get balanced views, so maybe Unz is getting more Sino-philic authors than you would prefer recently; doesn’t mean he won’t publish quality criticisms, maybe you or someone you know could submit something.

    With respect to charging Ashkenazi Jews with absolutely everything, I agree it’s a fault, and a fallacy for sure, but for people who are recovering from decades of brainwashing only recently, it is somewhat to be expected that they will over-compensate and subscribe to overly simplistic models of things (which are opposite to the lie that was planted in them), which is what that fallacy stems from, grasping at a simple model, and not attacking the model to test it. That’s probity, the intellectual Sysiphean task (which never ends, it can only, and must, be pursued). Most people simply aren’t equipped for that, often because the environment didn’t provide the training for that process.

    In spite of the contemporary carte-blanche in society, freedom from criticism, Ashkenazi Jews do have faults and sins like the rest of us, and they would benefit from constructive criticism, the same as I as an individual benefit from constructive criticism. The Zionist polity generally will benefit from purging truly criminal elements, and while they do exist, as typical they are a minority. Lesser faults, ethnic idiosyncracies, may be more common, but the truly evil shit is conducted by a diverse crew at the top of the pyramid of dogshit. Who knows really, but you have Vatican/Knights-of-Malta, Illuminati, Rosicrucians, Masons, WASPs, … everyone has some theory, and the more sophisticated theories feature an amalgamated and diverse villain crew. One particularly insightful conjecture comment on Unz featured largely the Vatican/Knights element; in spite of the sophistication of the argument, it was just speculative fantasy. We can compile lists of plausible explanations for what we see, but we don’t have the data to really know. Even and especially in the intelligence agencies, such knowledge is exceedingly sparse, I would guess.

    As another commenter in this very thread pointed out, many of the more one-dimensional Jew-hating/blaming comments are professional trolls, false flag information warfare.

    • 回复: @skrik
  147. Cowboy 说:

    Is Unz hiding under his bed again? Didn’t he predict like 10 million Americans dead by now? Chinky chong going down?

    • 回复: @Vidi
  148. Parbes 说:
    @Parbes

    What truth – that you’re a neocon sewer rat?

  149. denk 说:
    @showmethereal

    The [[[mofo]]] behind CV19/20
    are the same perps orchestrating proxy war in Ladakh right now…
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/06/why-the-chinese-indian-skirmishes-may-escalate/comments/page/2/#comments

    The same [[[mofo]]] who gave us SARS1
    谭耀宗
    西藏2008
    Xinjiang 2009, 2020
    HK 2014, 2020…
    Indon 1965

    The same [[[mofo]]] setting off bush fire all around China in SCS, TW straitls.

    Its the.. [[[mofo 5liars PTB]]]。
    A no brainer.

    The shithead really no shits
    and his fellow WTS are either very stupid cunts or paid shills.

  150. 118.Godfree Roberts says:

    “Thanks for checking. I was beginning to doubt my own eyes. I wonder if Larry uses Yandex for email?”

    I do not. A friend sent me this summary:

    “It’s possible that the link is modified by her email program or some other place where she stores them. For example, I might email you this link: “https://www.somewebsite.com/blah&#8221;, and you might see the actual text for the link as “news article1”. With Gmail, it’s possible for Google to modify the URL to say, “https://tracker.google.com/&source=Larry&target=https://www.somewebsite.com/blah&#8221;. Now when you click on “news article 1″, you think nothing has changed, but every person to whom you forwarded the email will now have the Google tracker on it. Google can put so much more on the new URL unbeknownst to you or anyone who receives the link. And, those creeps can track the entire ring of people whose viewed that article and who forwarded to whom.”

    An interesting part of this story is that when my article was first posted on this website, ALL the links visually displayed the correct destination, a newspaper website or whatever but, if you held your mouse over the link, the actual address was the person’s email account, and clicking on the link did open her email account. Moreover, that link was very long, with an enormous string of characters that I assume to have been a program of some kind.

    But a couple of hours later, when I checked, only one link still had the Yandex email. The others had all reverted to their normal status. And an hour later, that last link had reverted to normal as well.

    And that can mean only that the program was running in the background while embedded on this website, in the article. If I post a link here, for example to a website that contains my past articles: http://www.moonofshanghai.com, this link cannot change itself by itself. There would have to be a program running in that link to display a false link and then to delete itself after some period of time.

    As I said, damned clever espionage. I didn’t know this was possible. My conclusion is that there is at least a possibility that someone is interested to know who uploads and downloads articles on COVID-19, who forwards them, and to whom they are forwarded, and our friend Google who are just a private company doing no evil, is tracking all of those everywhere.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  151. @skrik

    [a possible proof being the Covid-19 attack disabling victims’ sense of smell

    You mean hypochondriacs who think they have Covid because they get a stuffy nose from a cold can’t smell as good.

    Also, they sequenced the DNA of Covid-19. Sure they did.

    • 回复: @skrik
  152. Parbes 说:
    @Really No Shit

    What truth – that you’re a neocon sewer rat?

    • 回复: @Really No Shit
    , @DB Cooper
  153. Ron Unz 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    An interesting part of this story is that when my article was first posted on this website, ALL the links visually displayed the correct destination, a newspaper website or whatever but, if you held your mouse over the link, the actual address was the person’s email account, and clicking on the link did open her email account. Moreover, that link was very long, with an enormous string of characters that I assume to have been a program of some kind.

    But a couple of hours later, when I checked, only one link still had the Yandex email. The others had all reverted to their normal status. And an hour later, that last link had reverted to normal as well.

    …As I said, damned clever espionage.

    Well, I happened to look over the comment-thread here, and can partially clear up the mystery…

    When I was sent the submitted article in Word format, I just copy-pasted it into the system, and slightly cleaned up the HTML. Unfortunately, I didn’t notice that the strange links were to that email account.

    When I discovered the problem, I removed the email links, but carelessly missed one of them, which I later fixed.

    So the only real mystery is why the Word file I was sent included those strange email links…

    • 谢谢: Alfred
  154. Max Payne 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    Its not spies. It’s user error. So you can relax.

    Simple answer: stop emailing yourself links and drafts of this article. Stop WORKING on these articles through your email application (be it a client on your computer or through a webmail site).

    DO get a real word processor application that doesn’t go through your web browser (ie don’t use Google docs).

    When copy-pasting links try pasting them first in a simple program like notepad before copying it again and pasting it into your final draft (in hopefully MS Word).

    Last week I had \$950 transferred out of my bank (thankfully the bank stopped it) because I downloaded the wrong crack. So if spies got to you believe me they would do more than some Micky Mouse trolling of opening your email client.

  155. 160.罗恩·恩茨(Ron Unz)说:

    “When I was sent the submitted article in Word format, I just copy-pasted it into the system, and slightly cleaned up the HTML. Unfortunately, I didn’t notice that the strange links were to that email account. When I discovered the problem, I removed the email links, but carelessly missed one of them, which I later fixed. So the only real mystery is why the Word file I was sent included those strange email links…”

    Thank you, Ron. That clears up a lot. When I was told of this, my first thought was that it was Word that included the tracking program in the links. My suggestion was to never use Microsoft Word but to always use Notepad and make a simple text file because it has no ability to contain or run programs and cannot be corrupted. I never use Word, except for word count and spell checking. I don’t trust that program at all. It has great capabilities but to my mind it should be used only on a computer that is not connected to the internet.

    We already know that Word and Windows have back doors, so it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that Word was also cooperating in tracking.

    I also have grave concerns about Google Docs for similar reasons.

    • 回复: @vot tak
  156. “By May 2020, China had the situation under control and no more contaminations were reported”. This is not what news channels like NTD report. Look at their “China in focus” bulletins on YouTube. According to those, China has been in serious trouble since December last year, especially in Wuhan and Beijing. The Chinese Communist Party hides these facts and reports to the outside world that all is hunky dory. It would seem that Mr. Romanoff has obediently gathered CCP data.

    • 巨魔: vot tak
    • 回复: @Vidi
  157. skrik 说:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    French news
    Wed 13 May 2020 13h16
    评论最多
    WHO lists loss of smell/taste as Covid-19 symptom

    The loss of smell and taste has now been added to the list of symptoms of the Covid-19 virus collated by the World Health Organisation (WHO).

    It comes after a European study revealed that loss of smell or taste occurred in 70% of cases – and was more common among women.

    The study has been conducted on 1,420 patients who had a mild form of the disease.

    It showed women are more affected by the loss of smell and taste than men who are more likely to suffer from coughs and fever.

    In younger patients, these symptoms are accompanied by ear, nose and throat problems, sore throat and cough, while older patients are more likely to experience tiredness and fever.

    Half of the patients recover their sense of smell and taste after two to three weeks.

    The World Health Organisation has thus added the loss of smell and taste to its list of symptoms which are: headache, fever, dry cough, tiredness, aches and pain, sore throat, diarrhoea, skin rash or discolouration of fingers and toes, and conjunctivitis.

    More serious symptoms are: difficulty of breathing or shortness of breath, chest pain or pressure, loss of speech or movement.

    On average symptoms take five to six days to appear but it sometimes can take up to 14 days, the WHO says.

    https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/World-Health-Organisation-adds-loss-of-smell-and-taste-in-the-list-of-coronavirus-symptoms

    Coronavirus: Prince Charles’s sense of smell and taste still not back
    16年2020月XNUMX日

    Prince Charles has still not fully regained his sense of smell and taste after having coronavirus in March, he revealed on a visit to NHS staff.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53026903

    Get your Covid-19 genome sequences from genometracker.org [US],基于来自 gisaid.org [D]。 rgds

  158. @BrokenheartAmerican

    You, like 99% of us, have no idea whatever about censorship in China and know little more about censorship in this country (as @Meena observes).

    Investigative journalism in the PRC, though no more welcome than it is here, is so influential it was able to stop the government permitting the use of GM foods and expose a scandal within the Supreme Court, 除其他外,.

    In any case, we are by no measure a democracy whereas, by any measure, China is. See https://www.unz.com/article/selling-democracy-to-china/

  159. @FvS

    而在这里,在自由之地,我们将人类拖到我们的皮卡车后面,感谢上帝。

    • 回复: @Bombercommand
  160. skrik 说:
    @sally

    是否有可能通过或通过卫星或 5g 手机信号塔对病毒进行基因工程?

    IMHO, no and absolutely not. [Disclaimer: I’m a layman in respect to microbiology.] Your discussion of “the S1-S2 molecule” is the correct place to start; namely at the coronavirus ‘spike.’ It’s why they ‘picture’ the virus as a sphere with spikes with nobs at the spike-ends. The nob is the ‘tip of the spear’ that engages the ACE2 ‘dock’ on the human cell outer wall. It is correct that the spike ‘divides’ at the S1-S2 boundary, *恰恰* at the point of the *独特* PRRA insertion, otherwise known as a furin-cleavage point. It is the PRRA insertion that makes Covid-19 so dreadfully infective. AFAIK, the transmission is only by virons expelled by an infected person being absorbed on the cell-wall surface of the next unfortunate person – suspecting 5G is a furphy put about by rabble-rouser/obfuscatory trouble-making types. It has been proposed that the virus arrived in/near Wuhan by infected US athletes, that sort of thing or spraying from drones could do the trick in Russia and Iran, say. The drone-deliveries would be done by covert infiltrated operatives from one or two rogue-states, my guess. rgds

    • 回复: @Parfois1
  161. mike99588 说:
    @HeebHunter

    So you think a high capacity, rapid firing “silent” ***rifle *** with ~45ACP stopping power wasn’t a fearsome weapon in 1800 ???

    I wouldn’t go hunting brown bear with it, but at moderate distance against a black powder muzzle loader, the smoke free firepower was terrific. Also Lewis and Clark played to a less critical audience and emphasized the advantages. It’s called showmanship.

  162. @Godfree Roberts

    That was a SINGLE incident 22 YEARS AGO, and the perpetrators were executed. You write as if it happens every day( understandable as the Hate Whitey Media acted as if it happens every day while ignoring the tsunami of Black on White hate crimes). What’s next Godfree, will you claim the recent BLM looting spree was actually perpetrated by “White Supremacists in giant pickups”? Oh wait, the Hate Whitey Media is already doing that. There’s your cue, Godfree, run with it! CHINA NUMBER ONE!!!YOU FINISHED WHITE GUY!!!!

    • 哈哈: Corporal Punishment
  163. Parfois1 说:
    @skrik

    … suspecting 5G is a 毛发 put about by rabble-rouser/obfuscatory trouble-making types.

    Strewth! Cop that one! It’s like parading with your akubra hat on! Where do you think you are? Back of beyond?

    干杯。

    • 回复: @skrik
  164. Alfred 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    if the Giardoni rifle were really that simple to operate, beffective and reliable, all gunpowder weapons would have ceased production.

    You overestimate the intelligence of the military. The fact that this airgun did not make a load noise and a small cloud of smoke is a distinct handicap for those obsessed with showing off their power and prowess. It is not as though the design of the 18th century could not be improved upon.

    28 years ago, in Oslo, I tried to explain to the Norwegian uncle of my son the advantages of drones in a future conflict. He was a senior officer in the Norwegian general staff (NATO) at the time. The drones I described to him were feasible to make with the technology of the 1990’s. This smart guy just could not grasp what I was on about.

    With modern materials and an automated pump, a modern version of the Giardoni would be quite useful in certain situations. It would certainly make people very nervous due to its silent operation.

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  165. Che Guava 说:
    @trickster

    Thank you, Trickster, and I have been saying the same things for months.

    My friend who came to the bar with delicious food and great servings of beverages, week before last, had the same consciousness of reality as thee and me until some time in spring, when she lost it for six or so weeks, staying at home except to buying groceries.

    A good friend, I am happy at her return to sanity.

    We are still supposed to be in a semi-panic, 31 mild cases yesterday.

    That is a shame, but 31 of 11 million?

    It would be nice if returning to a single digit,

  166. @Bombercommand

    I have contempt for people like you especially veterans and soldiers who raped and pillaged in asia, you are a loser and have yellow fever and a pathetic incel.Yellow and white is like oil and water we can never mix.

    • 回复: @Bombercommand
  167. skrik 说:
    @jadan

    Official pronouncements that the virus occurred naturally serve the purpose of stopping a global biological war from developing

    Possibly, but only such pronouncements coming from China. Mainly US&Co blusterers accuse the Chinese of eating ‘bat soup’ etc., and ‘allowing’ disease to jump from animals to humans via ‘wet markets,’ just as was done with SARS-1, alleging that civets were the source – much the same as with SARS-2 and bats, where sure enough, the closest ‘relative’ corona virus genome sequences have been identified. But Forster said that any most recent ‘natural’ common ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 or RmYN02 lies 51.71 years or 37.02 years respectively in the past – that means that to get from there to here, the perpetrators needed some sort of ‘assisted mutation’ environment.

    IF the US&Co had any sort of ‘believable’ evidence to implicate China, we would be swamped by it via the corrupt&venal-MSM, plus ditto-politicians screaming for ‘justice!’ But US&Co have no such evidence, and the psycophants in ‘Western’ science repeat ‘natural made’ as distracting from the obvious [Ft.Detrick, say] origin of SARS-CoV-2. Part repeat: The Chinese jumped, exactly because ‘the bat woman’ and team were fully cognisant of corona viruses, and knew that the PRRA insert was ‘a smoking gun’ = man-made bio-warfare weapon targeted at the heart of China. What the perpetrators didn’t account for was the blow-back hitting the rest of the world in general, not to mention the ‘assisted’ blow-back in Russia and Iran in particular, say. rgds

    • 同意: Herald
  168. Che Guava 说:
    @Che Guava

    I reply to myself for clarifying one point.

    As many others, I was against the Olympics bid, and do not like the modern Olympics of now (so many nonsense games, like women’s rugby, many more).

    However, my tax money has already helped to pay for the new facilities that the stupid IOC demands. Especially bad, the still good 1964 stadium, an icon of architecture, is no more.

    So, even though I despise much, we taxpayers have already paid to set it up, it must go ahead. It will be a boost (not enough to offset the costs), if other places want to continue their ‘lock down everyone except rioters and looters’ policy, those
    places can just not participate.

    简单。

    Would probably make for a better event

    • 回复: @Bombercommand
  169. sarz 说:
    @Republic

    Without comments ZeroHedge would be just another slanted news and views aggregator.

    • 同意: showmethereal
  170. @Che Guava

    I don’t care for the Olympic’s either, CG, but I’ve heard Natsuki Mari is designing outfits for the Japanese Team and/or the opening ceremony(media is unclear) and I want to see what she does. Natsuki Mari was fabulous as Lady Tamazuza in that Fukusaku Kenji film, I watch her closeups frame by frame. Japanese actresses from that era rock the world: Ogawa Mayumi(my fav), Hama Yuko, Toake Yukiyo, Nogawa Yumiko, Mita Yoshiko, Baisho Mitsuko, Miyako Chocho, Nobuo Kaneko(sic?), Asaoka Yukiji, Tsubouchi Mikiko, Masayo Mari, Ohkusu Michiyo, Sayo Marima and many others that must go unamed because the credits are so crappy on the DVD releases in N America.

  171. As someone poisoned by Chinese toxic drywall sent to Florida…..I have no trust in anything related to the Chinese government. I loved the pictures of doors welded shut on homes in Wuhan ….and can’t wait to get honest stats out of China some day. Till then I believe this came from a lab .. not a bat.

    • 回复: @vot tak
  172. nier 说:

    If you believe china’s reported infection number, you would have to believe china has less infected per capita than hong kong, south korea or japan.

    Hong kong has a population of 7.45million and 1100 infected. CHina has 186 times the population of hong kong, so to match hong kong’s infection rate, china would have 220000 infections.

    • 回复: @showmethereal
  173. skrik 说:
    @Parfois1

    It’s like parading with your akubra hat on!

    You should talk, “using the Pentagon’s lingo.” Also, isn’t a more ‘apposite’ expression: “Back of Burke?”

    No matter; IF we all agree it’s a murdering plot [mainly but not only] against the ‘oldies’ all over, THEN what can we do to stop it? Kratoklastes once wrote: “互联网的存在是为了摧毁不良信息。 发布Bullshít不再有效,……” In these Covid-19 days, surely we need to re-purpose the internet into a countervailing force to combat ‘the murdering uglies,’ eh? rgds

  174. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @showmethereal

    They blame jews – blacks – chinese for everything… Sometimes all at the same time.

    Gee…ya think…?

    When did that start…?

    😂

  175. BJ2020 说:
    @Rahan

    Or maybe Occam’s Razor: It is what it is. A Chinese fuck up, or more probably a Chinese attempt to destroy the world’s most robust economy just in time for elections so that Democrats can be put in place to orally service Xi, because we know how much he needs constant political fellatio.

    • 巨魔: Alfred
    • 回复: @vot tak
  176. FemCrim 说:
    @trickster

    Why doesn’t anyone associate high toll of cases and deaths in US with the refusals to use drugs that worked in earlier countries (at least not until any drug would have been too late)? I thought that was part of the point in declaring a pandemic; that the nations with the earliest cases shared information so later nations could use what had been found to work along with the knowledge that came with it.
    Just confirms that US uses anything and everything possible to a political end. Unfortunately, it usually ends up to our detriment.
    I am starting to get the feeling the US is just as bad of a loser as the democratic party was in 2016. Why can’t we just bow out gracefully before we really piss off the world?

    I have a feeling this is not going to end well, and worse, I’m not even going to have a say in the matter.

    • 回复: @trickster
  177. FemCrim 说:
    @trickster

    You are so right. A lady at the grocery store started panicing because she wasn’t 6 ft from the man in front of her. I told her not to worry she would be fine. She then informed me I was not God, and I assured her I was not but when her time did come 6ft would not make one bit of difference. Everyone else in line agreed with me. It gave me hope.

  178. vot tak 说:
    @BJ2020

    Ah, new yorker cliches. Just what the zionazi-gay propaganda machine ordered.

    You things are surplus. 😀

  179. denk 说:
    @yuribezmenoff

    The Covid-19 and now Covid-20 are scams used as psychological warfare. They use this scam as a political tool to destroy the present world order and usher a totalitarian orvelian NWO on the whole planet. ………………
    意识到 their aim is not only the takeover of this world, but also the culling of the human population – two thirds of the present population must be wiped out by 2030, according the their program “Agenda 2030′ published by ONU. So, you know now!

    同意,但是……
    Who’r the most vociferous champion of culling the useless eaters ?

    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/no-weapon-left-behind-the-american-hybrid-war-on-china/#comment-3743459

  180. vot tak 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    “We already know that Word and Windows have back doors, so it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that Word was also cooperating in tracking.”

    All microsoft/google/apple sofyware should be considered tainted meat with regard to government surveillance. Put norton anti virus in the same category.

  181. jay 说:
    @skrik

    您确定他们认为美国和欧洲是他们自己的人吗? 我不这么认为。

    • 回复: @skrik
  182. DB Cooper 说:
    @Parbes

    真的没有屎是一头牛尿,喝露天大便,肮脏的油菜,丑陋的臭令人毛骨悚然的懒惰(达赖喇嘛多次公开表示印度人很懒惰)愚蠢的低智商(印度平均智商为76)半进化的印度猴。 香港有很多这些肮脏的贫民窟狗,因为各种原因,香港政府对此无能为力,香港人不得不忍受这些肮脏的东西。 中国大陆应该帮助香港政府将这些肮脏的东西踢回印度。 这将受到香港人民的热烈欢迎。 我可以保证。

    • 回复: @Vidi
  183. skrik 说:
    @jay

    您确定他们认为美国和欧洲是他们自己的人吗?

    Err, perhaps you haven’t been paying strict attention? Kindly re-read the headline: “China Reseeded” – by whom, surely not China itself? Whoever did any reseeding would have to have immunity [to actually get close enough to their targets, spread their ‘pixie-dust’ then get out without detection AND leaving no detectable trace other than virons in aerosol]. Consider here Russia and especially Iran, how could any vector-operative get close enough to Iranian parliamentarians except possibly by some mechanism like [mil.spec=utterly dependable] drones? Not so BTW, I don’t consider Europe to be amongst the perpetrators – except possibly UK = a 5-eyes+1 member. Of course, the immunity-agent has to be secret, and the vector-operatives highly trained; as some next-to-nobody said recently: “there aren’t too many state-based actors who have those capabilities.” RGDS

  184. 我认为某些读者可能对此链接感兴趣。 《上海日报》发布了COVID-60感染和死亡人数排名前19位的国家/地区清单,并每天更新。 向下滚动页面。

    https://www.shine.cn/news/world/2003124144/

    You can’t draw many conclusions from only one day’s chart but some items emerge if you compare the changes for a few days. One is that many countries – Austria, Singapore, Switzerland, have nearly eliminated the virus but can’t seem to shake it entirely, having ten or twenty or 50 new infections daily for many weeks now.

    许多阿拉伯国家的人口少,感染率高,但死亡率却很低:

    – Saudi Arabia: (35 million pop.) – 167,267 cases, 1,387 deaths

    – Qatar: (3 million pop.) – 90,778 cases, 104 deaths

    – UAE: (10 million pop.) – 46,133 cases, 307 deaths

    – Kuwait: (4 million pop.) – 41,879 cases, 337 deaths

    – Oman: (5 million pop.) – 33,536 cases, 142 deaths

    Some countries – South Korea, Japan, Singapore, have very low death rates but this is not, as the Western media are fond of telling us, that these countries executed exemplary protocols (compared to China who screwed up on everything), but because they were seeded with a haplotype of the virus that was not terribly infectious and seldom lethal. In fact, it would seem the Arab countries were even better than JP, SK and SP in ‘executing exemplary protocols’, but the media won’t talk about them because they aren’t democracies and there is no propaganda value in giving them credit for anything good. So, like China, the Arabs are either just lucky or lying but they didn’t do a good job.

    – Japan: (125 million pop.) – 18,130 domestic cases, 969 deaths

    – South Korea: (50 million pop.) – 12,484 cases, 281 deaths

    – Singapore: (6 million pop.) – 42,623 cases, 26 deaths

    As I mentioned in my article, Sweden is basket case compared to the other Nordic countries (Sweden’s population is about twice that of Denmark and Norway):

    – Sweden: (10 million pop.) – 62,324 cases, 5,209 deaths

    – Denmark: (6 million pop.) – 12,615 cases, 603 deaths

    – Norway: (5 million pop.) – 8,576 cases, 239 deaths

    日耳曼国家,德国,奥地利,瑞士的死亡率比欧洲大部分地区低,约为4%,而英国,法国,意大利,比利时和荷兰的死亡率则高达15%。 我没有有关每个国家/地区特定类型病毒的详细信息,因此无法得出死亡率是由于遗传易感性还是更恶毒的病毒而得出的结论。

    Russia also seems to have a virus strain that is enormously infectious but not lethal (death rate .014), while the US and Brazil seem to be in the middle of the pack in this regard (about .05). China’s variety proved plenty lethal, (initially around 15%), but the lockdown stopped the spread and the use of Traditional Chinese Medicine severely reduced the death rates.

    – United States: (330 million pop.) – 2,380,452 cases, 121,969 deaths
    – Brazil: (205 million pop.) – 1,192,474 cases, 53,874 deaths
    – Russia: (145 million pop.) – 606,881 cases, 8,513 deaths
    – China: (1,400 million pop.) – 85,119 cases, 4,647 deaths

    • 谢谢: FB
    • 回复: @dux.ie
  185. skrik 说:
    @Michael888

    The comparison of the 12/10 nucleotide stretch for the furin cleavage site should be compared between RmYN02 and SARScov2 to see how closely related

    请看我的 #28 above. rgds

  186. trickster 说:
    @FemCrim

    Well some points I would like to make about this “pandemic”, this “deadly killer disease”.

    I have two nephews. One asked me “Uncle Trickster: how come you never get sick and you are twice our age.?”

    The preventative and curative drugs I advised, are the following:

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    1. I walk 5 miles every day regardless of the weather. Two miles on pavement and the other 3 in a conservation area full of hills and paths full of roots, rocks and stones
    2. I exercise 1/2 hour in the morning and again in the afternoon
    3. I use every other opportunity to keep moving (walking up stairs or to the store/ carrying bags of groceries etc
    4. My diet is mainly fruits and vegetables. No flesh products ever
    5. I eat no more than 3 pounds of food a day. My last meal of the day is at 12 noon. On Sundays I eat nothing at all.
    6. Water when I feel thirsty
    7. I refuse to take any drugs whatsoever
    8. I go to sleep at 10 pm every night and rise at 6 am
    9. I dont smoke or drink
    10 I do not use sugar in any form ie no honey etc and no dairy and no tinned/ packaged food

    BULLSHIT, the older one told me ! So he continues to smoke, drink, abuse his body, always in the junk food store, always a soda can in one hand, always with some pill for a headache, constipation etc. Interestingly enough, the younger one who is not so intellectually smart decided to give my criteria a try. As I said to him, what do you have to lose ?

    Now the young fellow has not been sick since 1987. Not even a sniffle. He looks far younger than his age and can do 15-16 hours construction labour, 7 days a week all summer without any sign of fatigue or exertion. His vision is clear, teeth sound and a full head of hair.The older one always has a cold, a sniffle, an ache or pain. He lacks flexibility, already has lower back problems, has a grey pallor and is weak, both mentally and physically. He is already bald with a mouth full of cavities and some missing teeth. From time to time he gets large black heads and cysts full of pus a sure sign his blood is poisoned. He is a disease waiting to happen, a host waiting to welcome some virus.

    I have already proved my modus operandi is wise based on my experimentation on my own body not what the good Doctor said, not what Doctor Oz hypes, not what the experts, bloggers and health magazines tout. I travel a lot and have been to countries where men and women in their late 7o’s are built like Bruce Lee and can work 12 hour shifts doing hard manual labour in the blazing sun. Here is a test for all the big studs who can press 400 pounds at the gym. Try cutting and loading cane all day for the entire harvest season! Why are these people different to the decrepit seniors wandering about our cities on walkers or bedridden in homes at the age of 65 OR LESS ?

    To reinforce my point, anyone can do a simple observation. At the supermarket look at customers in the line and then look at what they are buying. If the cart is full of packaged and junk food they will look sickly, over weight, flabby, obese, bent over, spindly legs, reeking of cigarette smoke or alcohol. Of course many will say I am full of shit BUT the drug and healthcare business runs into the billions per year. How come ?

    Which brings me to the Corona. If people have been defiling their bodies for years, how can it be a mystery to them when they get sick, Why are they surprised that their body and system is so filthy that it is the ideal breeding ground for any and every germ that comes along. The elderly seem more prone because they have been abusing themselves longer.

    When I lived in New York and had very little money, my apartment building not the most elite and was prone to roaches. The landlord could spray all he wanted, residents could also, but the critters kept coming back, bigger and more resilient than ever. I NEVER had that problem in my place. Why ? Because I kept it spotlessly clean. Why would the bugs come to my place ? There was nothing for them there. I further argue, if I run my car on kerosense and use cooking oil in the engine how long before it is a piece of scrap. If this is the case with a machine made of plastic, iron and steel, then what does one expect of such a finely made mechanism as the human body when it is filled with and clogged with crap.

    So I can go anywhere, without a mask, without gloves, touch anything, ignore social distancing, have people cough and sneeze around me, shake my hand and I am absolutely confident I will catch nothing because my blood is clean. If people took care of their health they need never fear disease. But the majority flog their systems thinking and expecting that some drug or a skilled surgeon carving them up and removing body parts will save the day. The billions spent on health care say otherwise. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and so must accept the sure to follow rewards or consequences !

    I know how to stay healthy. It is very simple but requires discipline. We, the highest species and the most advanced civilization, make everything so complicated and thus manufacture complicated traps for our minds and bodies. So many are mentally and physically sick and thus weak, leaving themselves vulnerable to fear and the manipulations of others with not so noble agendas.

    • 谢谢: Alfred
  187. skrik 说:
    @anon8383892

    As another commenter in this very thread pointed out, many of the more one-dimensional Jew-hating/blaming comments are professional trolls, false flag information warfare

    Funny, but I think this sort of statement may be termed ‘accusing your opponents of doing *确切地* what you yourself do’ = “Blame shifting would likely be the best term that covers it.” RGDS

  188. @DB Cooper

    So the dirty panda, stinking rat writes under all sorts of handle … take those Ray Bans off to see whichever image that is in the link to see yourself and your fellow vermin. Once a rat always a rat!

  189. skrik 说:
    @Jeff Davis

    Do we have an antidote to this bio-weapon? A vaccine, maybe? No? Isn’t that a problem? Won’t it come back over here and bite us on the ass?

    I thought about this, right back at the beginning, or at least shortly after I became suspicious. Then see my #194 above; IF any rogue-regime a) mutated the ‘hell’ into some RaTG13 analog and added the *独特* PRRA insertion, making SARS-2 at least 10* more infectious than SARS-1, b) released it upon China [accepting a non-zero risk of spreading it to ‘home’] but[1] THEN c) openly deployed the immunity-factor at that home [vaccine OR something like Hydroxychloroquine but actually 100% effectively preventative], well d) doing (c) would blow your own ‘cover!’ But[2], in order to spread the ‘pixie dust,’ the vector-operatives need immunity; a bit circular possibly, but that’s just how it is in the ‘bio-attack’ scenario – always and only IMHO. So to answer the Q:

    “and bite us on the ass?”

    I would suggest the old Tonto to Lone Ranger riposte: “What do you mean by ‘us,’ whiteman?” rgds

  190. Che Guava 说:

    I must sleep.

    Cinema of japan, once great, is usually mediocre now.

    From the 80s to early 2000s, japan was making much, to my mind, very good weird cinema, also good normal cinema. So great from late 40s to that time.

    As a late example, I would recommend the 2004 live version of Cutie Honey, starring Eriko Sato (if you have not seen it).

    Also, for the best of the weird, and an industrial masterpiece, Tetsuo.

    I am hardly watching TV at all now (sumo excepted), but I enjoyed what I saw of NHK’s period drama about a girl falling in love with sewing machines and western fashion. Those dramas all have a common template in parts, especially at the end of the war, but it is generally much like tales from those who were experiencing it.

    Another you may not know of, I think Kurosawa Akira’s first feature film, 一番美しく, of meaning ‘the most beautiful’, it has a special resonance for me, I was working for some years at the place it was set (and much later).

    • 回复: @Bombercommand
  191. @Che Guava

    Japanese cinema 1945-1974 is the greatest on the planet, tough times for the Japanese people, great time for Art. Even with the usually truncated and crappy English subtitles they are profound, the only cinema that has moved me to tears. For “Samurai” films give me: the Katsu Shintaro “Zatoichi” series, his brother Wakayama Tomisaburo’s “Lone Wolf And Cub” series and Ikehiro(director) “Mikomagi No Jokichi” series, and “Bohachi Bushido The Forgotten Eight” shows what a genius Japanese director can create on an ultra-low low budget. For something arty Imamura Shohei’s “Profound Desire Of The Gods”(AKA Kurageshima/Legend Of A Southern Island). Misumi Kenji should be studied by any aspiring director, he can put two and a half hours of cinema into ninety minutes and is a master in the use of music and creation of luminous images with unsurpassed color design. My Mom loves the 1950’s musicals….all for now, there is so much more…

    • 回复: @Che Guava
    , @Che Guava
  192. Avery 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    {Trump didn’t win because he was a great candidate. He won because Hildebeast was so awful.}

    You are correct: partially.

    You are correct in that people hated The Hildabeast. (…..except on both coasts, where she garnered the most popular vote: no surprise. Exhibit A: Seattle and the CHOP Town.) But Trump had something else that resonated with people: as you pointed out, he was playing to packed venues.

    People hated The Hildabeast, but they (theoretically) had other choices besides Trump.
    Republican presidential candidates: Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, John Kasich, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Donald Trump and Scott Walker.

    People chose Trump from all the other Republican looooosers, because he has something that resonates with people.

  193. glib 说:
    @Jeff Davis

    The antidote exists. It is a strong immune system. A majority of people have a weakened immune system due to a vitamin D deficiency (90%+ in developed countries). And if you have good levels, you will not die. See Ref. 25 in the following link

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/08/cnn-coronavirus-vitamin-d.aspx

  194. dux.ie 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    大多数SARSCoV2研究论文都引用了公共GISAID数据集的数据,这些数据将全球样本遗传划分为5个进化枝,即19A,19B,20A,20B和20C。 进化枝19A和19B主要分布在环太平洋地区,例如日本,韩国,中国,新加坡,美国。 包括CongoDR在内的大西洋边缘地区主要由进化枝20A,20B和20C占据,下图显示了这些杀手枝。 进化枝19s的百分比越高,人均死亡率越低,进化枝20s的百分比越高,死亡率也越高。 最好的对比是同一国家的NY和CA。

    通过冷冻鲑鱼进口的新北京病毒已显示来自进化枝20B,而中国仅来自其他地方。

  195. @FvS

    So you say that dogs are a tool to be used by humans in the first two and a pet for the last one. Pigs once were used to clean up sewage in cities. And many people have “pet” pigs. But that still doesn’t answer concisely why eating a pig is ok and a dog is not ok. Simply because it is emotion and not based off of anything related to sense or right and wrong.

  196. donut 说:
    @Kratoklastes

    这是什么 ?

    Doing this will open the mail client, but won’t do anything else because it can’t hit ‘Send’. A slightly ‘smarter’ version would actually be able to set up recipients, and mimic hitting ‘Send’ on the new e-mail payload. And then delete the Sent mail, of course.

    .

    This can be done either ‘on the fly’ with Javascript (likely to be a client-level thing), or using a 301 (redirect) at the server level.

    Since it’s happening to a subset of users, it’s obviously ‘client side’ in this case – which means that some users have been victims of a browser exploit at some stage.

    This is relatively easy to do in a ‘drive by’ – where a site is set up to install malicious JS the moment a user lands on the site. Drive-bys usually infect a plugin/extension with known vulnerabilities – e.g., Flash Player.

    Since everyone knows about CVE-2020-0041 (the Chrome ‘sandbox’ exploit and credential escalation), users with unpatched browsers and stored SMTP credentials (or using open SMTP relays, like GMail) are basically lining up to be part of an email botnet… although frankly mass-email botnets are well past its use-by date (these days, people don’t even use browser hijacks to use the device as part of a crypto-mining botnet… it’s not worth the effort).

    .

    Don’t be too hard on yourself: datasec is hard.

    Ask the folks who just had millions of documents liberated, despite spending a total of hundreds of million of dollars on security. (“The folks“… that would be “hundreds of US law enforcement agencies“, and the “millions of documents” goes by the name of “Blueleaks“. Fucking amateurs)

  197. chinoche 说:

    The Anglo-Zionists NeoCons laid out the strategy against China, “And advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.” The Project for a New American Century, Rebuilding America’s Defenses (September 2000)
    Written and supported by people not living in caves but embedded within our government like John Bolton, Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz. The same document called for a new Pearl Harbor, a catalyzing event that can bring revolutionary change in US foreign policy – one of intervention and occupation. That event was 9/11 which then ushered in the War on Terror. All are on the basis of Lies.
    The same methods used to blame the Arabs and Muslims for 9/11 are being used against the China for Covid 19. Both were 9/11 and Covid Pandemic were false flag operations. The media including the Deep State uses ideation methods early on to convince the public that the Covid 19 virus came from the Wuhan Lab or Wuhan market without proof.
    This is part of the hybrid war against China – use the virus as a weapon to stop China’s rise and then blame China for the virus. Romanoff raises relevant issues to show the US imperialist narrative is false. The lack of spread of the virus in China, the variations of the virus showing up at different parts of the world simultaneously and the earlier timeline in the different countries shows China was not the source.

    • 同意: GomezAdddams
  198. @Jiminy

    Funny because in initial quality studies by JD Power… The GM factory that produces Buicks in China (Buicks biggest market) was given the highest award of any of their factories in the world.

    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2020-initial-quality-study-iqs

    As to “expected to divulge proprietary secrets”…. ummmm – that’s part of the WTO rules. developing nations indeed could require tech transfer and joint ventures…. it wasn’t the Chinese who wrote the rules. maybe it was those who felt guilty about “operation paper clip” where they appropriated German technology… or maybe because others remembered when the new upstart across the atlantic stole european tech.. so they all just wanted to make it legal – huh..?

  199. Che Guava 说:
    @Bombercommand

    The Singing Policeman, the 1964(?) take on Kwaidan (the more recent version is no good, the old one a true masterpiece), both of those are must-sees.

    I agree with your timespan, but earlier and later are also very interesting. Up to the mid-00s. After that, generally boring.

    The Jewish movie ‘James and the Real Girl’ (which I do not want to see) is a copy of a Japanese original, I am forgetting the title, but it was great to watch it on the big screen.

    I think you may be able to track it down from the cues.

    Regards, if I want to go to the music show tonight, I will closing here.

  200. denk 说:
    @yuribezmenoff

    The Covid-19 and now Covid-20 are scams used as psychological warfare. They use this scam as a political tool to destroy the present world order and usher a totalitarian orvelian NWO on the whole planet

    ‘ They want the Anglo-Saxons to be doing it. They don’t want the Chinese to be doing it.

    They get the Chinese out of the way first, and then the Anglo-Saxons will inherit this “new world,”

    China will catch a cold. Those were their words: China will catch a cold. And they were laughing about the fact that these biological weapons will wreak havoc among the Chinese population.

    After that, then what effectively will be a kind of plague will actually spread right across the world to the West as well’

    http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_presentation_transcript_en.html

    • 同意: FB
    • 回复: @Astuteobservor II
  201. Che Guava 说:
    @Bombercommand

    I was having slight stroke (heat) today. Fell over at the peak.

    Don’t worry, i was drinking much water later.

    No fun. I let down the band I made a booling for, and worse, the first of the live venues to have genuinely re-opened.

    Oh well, heat stroke will have its way.

  202. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Alfred

    It is not as though the design of the 18th century could not be improved upon.

    It has been. CO2 cartridges are an improvement. I can attest they kill squirrels very effectively and could likely kill a human with the right shot. Compressed air tools like nail guns are also an improvement. I’m a big fan of compressed air.
    The problem has been the delay in development of the improvement on larger scale weapons than BB guns and CO2 pellet guns to make them viable. I think it’s too late at this point, as lasers, sound, and other electronic methods are being developed.

    • 回复: @vot tak
  203. Herald 说:
    @Sulu

    The level of credibility of authors on this site is in precipitous decline.

    Whereas the very smart commenters, like your very clever self, are a joy to behold.

  204. Drigh 说:

    Interesting article. The issue of Fort Detrick came up in Febriary or March, but the US MSM gave up on it quickly. EVen when Italy reported that the makeup of their virus was different than the Chinese Wuhan one, none of the big english news services followed up on that.
    Can only say that what goes around comes around, so beware.

  205. Something to keep in mind …

    The IMF updated their April forecast recently:

    • World GDP declined 4.9%

    • France, Italy, Spain declined 12%

    • UK declined 10%

    • Germany and USA declined 8%

    • Russie declined 7%

    • Japan declined 6%

    •中国 增加 1%

  206. @nier

    That is poor analysis. Hong Kong is a city in China. But because – unlike what Pompeo says – they largely do their own thing – they took less aggressive measures. You don’t compare a city to an entire nation. You compare it to other cities that are similar. In most cases cities have higher infection rates than rural areas. When you compare all cities in East Asia – they are fairly similar. Those who were less restrictive had higher rates (of course not counting Wuhan).
    China has 10 times the population of Japan and even more times the population of South Korea. What mainland China and South Korea did is similar.. So because China is so many times bigger – it is not surprising it’s rates are somewhat lower. If you compare Taiwan and Fujian Province – right across the Strait – they have similar numbers… Which makes sense because that is comparing like to like.

  207. vot tak 说:

    看到这个了吗?

    研究称,Covid-19最早于2019年XNUMX月进入西班牙污水处理

    https://www.rt.com/news/493085-covid-spain-march-2019-sewage/

    “Scientists with the Enteric Virus Group at the University of Barcelona detected the presence of the virus in frozen samples of the city’s wastewater collected as early as March 12, 2019. The group, led by Rosa Maria Pintó and Albert Bosch, was exploring the potential of wastewater analysis in early warning systems and the prevention of future Covid-19 outbreaks when it made the surprise discovery.

    最初,研究小组在15年2020月41日的样本中发现了该病毒,大约是在西班牙首次确认的Covid-19病例之前约2018天。 他们决定检查2019年12月至2019年2月之间的较早样本,并全部证明为阴性“除了XNUMX年XNUMX月XNUMX日以来的样本,其中SARS-CoV-XNUMX的水平非常低,但明显为阳性,”在一份声明中说,使用该病毒的正式名称。

    研究人员得出的结论是,该病毒可能早于最初的设想就已经在世界范围内传播。

    “巴塞罗那由于旅游或专业原因而接待了许多游客,”博尔希说。 “世界其他地区很可能发生了类似情况。”

    But keep in mind it is well known among the zionazi-gay information bureau, and their numerous volunteers, that the waste water from the “Wuhan biowarfare lab” drains directly into the Barcelona sewage system.

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  208. vot tak 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    “I’m a big fan of compressed air.”

    No surprise there….

    ????

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  209. dux.ie 说:
    @vot tak

    我以前一直在想。 西班牙在GISAID数据集中有许多老年人(早期)SARSCoV2样本。 我避免将它们标记为SpanishFLu。 奇怪的是,西班牙和中国的进化枝轮廓有相当多的重叠,这对于一个与希腊,意大利等与中国没有明显联系的欧洲国家来说是不寻常的,这些进化枝的19B WuFlu组分可忽略不计(重新标记为GISAID明确主张: 19月进化枝B是19月进化枝19B,尽管20A进化枝是中国以及其他许多亚太国家/地区的主要进化枝。 有了更多数据,就有可能表明进化枝XNUMXB可能起源于西班牙,也就是说,如果意大利人还可以找到比他们目前拥有的年代更早的样品。 所有进化枝GISAID样本的MaxAge(最早的遗传世代,不是采集日期)来自意大利(但来自进化枝XNUMXA,因此来自LombardFlu)。 在GISAID四月数据集中,美国拥有MaxAge样本,该样本的存在已在Mt.山中确认。 西奈(Sinai)在纽约发表的论文,但是这些数据以及美国其他许多高龄数据在后来的数据集中神秘地消失了。

    • 回复: @skrik
  210. @Bombercommand

    Better than Citations from MSM like NY Times , Washington Post et al – -don’t you think?
    This article is well set out & verifiable — and very believable. USA is an evil empire!

  211. skrik 说:
    @dux.ie

    进化枝19A是中国的主要进化枝

    您能否针对这两张图来解释这个进化枝系统,即Forster等人以“图形”形式得出的结果:

    本网站? Note that each diagram ‘points’ to a bat [as a putative ‘closest known precursor relative’], although Forster has said a) this ‘out ref’ is only indicative and could just as easily be pangolin or some other = no difference to his analysis and b) any most recent ‘natural’ common ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 or RmYN02 lies 51.71 years or 37.02 years respectively in the past. No matter; my point here is that Forster named the earliest SARS-CoV-2 he identified as ‘strain A’ and said the most common form in Wuhan is ‘strain B,’ and on the genometracker diagram, the closest to any nominal bat strain is H2 followed by H13. If it would be an easier ‘explanation,’ could you point me/us to a ‘tutorial’ so that we may better understand your rather ‘technical’ posts? Thanks in advance. rgds

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  212. Curmudgeon 说:
    @vot tak

    Don’t get near me after I’ve eaten onions. You’ve been warned!

  213. The certain market of a planned event is a huge shift in wealth. “Pattern Recognition”.

  214. dux.ie 说:
    @skrik

    >您能解释一下这个进化枝系统吗

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global

    大多数研究人员都有自己的标准来对样本进行分组。 Forster将它们分为3个进化枝,即A,B,C,而GISAID将它们分为5个进化枝,即19A,19B,20A,20B和20C。 甚至GISAID / Nextstrain也从四月份的11个进化枝分类更改为当前的5个进化枝。 无论如何,两个系统之间的映射,

    ForstersClade | GISAIDClade | N
    A | 19B | 27
    B | 19A | 50
    B | 20A | 1
    B | 20B | 1
    C | 19A | 12

    Forster的工作很早,仅使用了160个样本,而GISAID目前使用的样本超过了3个,换句话说,Forster的结果已经过时。 例如,他只有一个样本的GISAIDClades 20A和20B,而没有一个样本的20C。 GISAIDClade 20s目前非常重要,因为它们是欧美的主要杀手进化枝,20%进化枝的百分比越高,人均死亡率越高,例如意大利(93%)和NY(90%)。 如您所见,Forsters的结果太过陈旧,无法解释当前情况。 例如,瑞典的“让它撕裂”策略使新的杀手进化枝20C从具有最早样本(遗传年龄)和大多数高龄样本的瑞典粪池中进化出来,并且是瑞典的优势进化枝。 纽约州55%的SARSCoV2是进化枝20C SwedeFlu。

    由于“非洲起源橙”将所谓的病毒来源政治化,因此许多研究人员已经对自己提交的年龄较大(早期)样本进行了自我审查。 例如,从May GISAID / Nextstrain数据集中,美国子集的净结果给出了NEGATIVE突变率,美国一定已经发现了年轻人的源泉。

    • 回复: @skrik
  215. 226.dux.ie说:

    感谢您提供的帖子和有用的信息,但是我对某些数据有严重的疑问。

    The chart shows China as being hit 60% by Type A, 30% with Type B and 2% with Type C. The C is correct, but the tiny bit that hit Guangdong was A, not B, but your chart shows Guangdong as roughly equal with A and B of roughly 50% each. I don’t believe that is correct.

    More importantly, The type that hit Wuhan (which was more than 95% of all China’s cases) was not Type A but Type B. And there is no dispute about that, so either I am badly misunderstanding the chart (which I hope is the case), or else someone is inadvertently or otherwise cherry-picking the data and the chart misrepresents the situations for many countries.

    Also, the chart shows Denmark as being hit with Type C to the same extent as was Sweden, but that cannot be true because Type C seems to have been much more lethal and Denmark’s death rate is only around 10% that of Sweden, which circumstance is not entirely accounted for by the differences in the political management of the outbreak.

    同样,冰岛,德国和英国的A,B和C比例也没有意义。

    您是否确切地准备了这些数据以及他们的国籍有进一步的解释?

    Or, if I’m totally off-base for some reason, would you mind informing me of my error?

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  216. skrik 说:
    @dux.ie

    Thanks for your response, following your “nextstrain” cite I looked at:

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global

    ..在这里我可以看到19A,19B,20A,20B和20C进化枝的图片,

    但相反:

    https://www.gisaid.org/epiflu-applications/next-hcov-19-app/

    .. where I can see a pictorial of something different, namely G, GR, GH, O then S, L & V clades. No matter [and these pictorials are not telling me much], now my Q about Forster’s A, B & C is clarified, but I return to Forster; his work may well be ‘outdated’ but was he correct with his “A being the ancestral type according to the bat outgroup”, now GISAID’s 19B and if not, could that be explained by at that time them having ‘insufficient data?’ Again no matter [water under the bridge], now I’m interested in your ‘killer clade’ classification, your analysis indicates that SARS-CoV-2 is becoming more deadly, hardly a ‘good look?’

    Lets us consider a different theme; it seems to me that Wuhan reacted with horror [possibly due to finding the PRRA insert] then moved effectively to suppress the virus, Italy, Spain and to a certain extent France were surprised [then quickly became overloaded], but notably the so-called ‘democracies,’ led by US, UK, Sweden then others initially reacted hardly at all. The ‘standard narrative’ was ‘Oh, it’s only the flu.’ Have their so-called ‘leaders’ possibly made themselves criminally liable? rgds

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  217. @denk

    This reads like there might be a far deadlier virus on the way. With longer incubation period and more infectious. So the world will be fucked before it even realizes.

    • 回复: @denk
  218. Vidi 说:
    @Nixon Scraypes

    Don’t viruses mutate anyway? See science 直销网 ~ covid in France in December. Also an acquaintance of mine had a horrible virus in December in England.

    Yes, viruses mutate frequently. But zillions of mutations are possible. What are the chances that two random strains of coronavirus should become lethal to humans at 大约在同一时间precisely the countries (China and Iran) that Americans are currently wetting their pants over?

    I am sure the Chinese government understands this but they prefer not to say it, as an official acknowledgement that they are in a biowar would force them into responding — and they don’t want World War 3. Most of the world also doesn’t want WW3, so we should commend the Chinese for their fortitude and restraint.

  219. The lockdowns are passive murder. I do not believe that they will attempt it again because the majority of the medical and scientific communities have acknowledged that Covid is no more fatal than the seasonal flu, that the tests are extremely inaccurate, that the vaccines are unnecessary, and that the lockdown caused far greater health threats than corona flu.

    The power brokers are out of options and are frantically grasping at straws in order to maintain credibility and their power.

    These desperate futile attempts have only resulted in the escalation of their own demise, including financing the terrorist organization BLMGN, with Weather Underground convicted terrorist Susan Rosenberg recieving donations from BLMGN, which were funneled to Act Blue, and then to Thousand Currents which Rosenberg is a board member of. 

    There are alt right journalists demanding race wars, civil wars, and another Jewish Holocaust. 

    They have perhaps been contracted by a European bank to call for such insanity as a “solution!” 

    If that were to occur in America, foreign militaries would be here yesterday! 

    The world did not tolerate Germany or Hitler attempting it, and the world will not tolerate America and Trump or Biden attempting it! 

    They are desperate as hell! European bankers are begging the Chinese to further open their financial markets to Europeans, because the Europeans know that they cannot economically compete with China without severely lowering their standard of living. The Europeans are being discovered for how manipulative they actually are, hopefully by their own citizens! 

    The Europeans are caught between a rock and a hard spot with both Russia and China, after their two-faced behavior thankfully might be leading Trump to abandon Europe militarily, because, let’s face it! We simply can’t afford to do it, or take the heat for being blamed for being their lynch men. Their currencies have been heading north, but I don’t know how that will end up, or how long it will last for!

  220. dux.ie 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    >否则有人会无意或以其他方式挑选数据

    全球研究人员自愿提交的数据经过服务器阶段。 首先,需要对RNA进行完整测序,这需要资源,研究人员只会选择有趣的案例,而不会选择随机样本。 而且,如果数据集中已经有太多类似的序列,则它们可能不会提交它们。 然后将病毒源政治化,这意味着来自某些国家(包括中国)的许多研究人员进行了自我审查,以提交更早的数据。 就像我之前说过的那样,最终结果是某些国家的数据集会给出使用Forsters方法计算的负突变率。

    我一直在快速随意地将其称为GISAID数据集。 真正的GISAID数据集仅适用于大学研究人员,其子集可通过Nextstrain获得。 我不知道Nextstrain如何选择子集,我之前对此表示怀疑。 例如,四月份的分类将它们分为10个进化枝,而在10个进化枝A2a中,致死性最强,而MaxAge(最早的遗传世代)样本来自美国,因此,我很快就扬声扬扬为YankFlu,并与一群高龄者一起在2月数据集中缺少美国AXNUMXa样本(因此我删除了YankFlu标签),

    ### 2020-04-18数据集
    年龄| 进化枝| 拉紧
    99 | A2a | USA / NY-NYUMC12 / 2020 <– Global Clade A2a MaxAge,08月XNUMX日失踪
    90 | A2a | USA / NY-NYUMC65 / 2020 <– 08月XNUMX日失踪
    88 | A2a | USA / NY-PV08449 / 2020 <– 08月XNUMX日失踪
    85 | A2a | USA / NY-NYUMC58 / 2020 <– 08月XNUMX日失踪
    84 | A2a | USA / NY-PV08109 / 2020 <– 08月XNUMX日失踪
    82 | A2a | USA / NY-NYUMC67 / 2020 <– 08月XNUMX日失踪
    82 | A2a | USA / NY-PV08500 / 2020 <– 08月XNUMX日失踪
    82 | A2a | USA / NY-PV08434 / 2020 <– 08月XNUMX日失踪
    80 | A2a | USA / NY-PV08432 / 2020 <–万岁! 目前在08月XNUMX日
    80 | A2a | USA / NY-NYUMC25 / 2020 <–万岁! 目前在08月XNUMX日
    ...
    87 | A2a | Italy / TE4953 / 2020 <– Italy MaxAge
    86 | A2a | Italy / TE6195 / 2020 <–截至08月XNUMX日
    80 | A2a | Italy / UniMI03 / 2020 <–截至08月XNUMX日
    80 | A2a | Italy / TE4880 / 2020 <–截至08月XNUMX日
    ...
    19 | A2a | NanChang / JX216 / 2020 <–中国MaxAge,唯一样品,于08月XNUMX日提交

    其中丢失的USA / NY-NYUMC12 / 2020,USA / NY-NYUMC65 / 2020,USA / NY-PV08449 / 2020,USA / NY-NYUMC58 / 2020,USA / NY-PV08109 / 2020,USA / NY-NYUMC67 / 2020年,USA / NY-PV08500 / 2020和USA / NY-PV08434 / 2020在使用1月XNUMX日数据集的论文随附的补充数据集中,

    https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.04.15.20064931
    “测序确定了将SARS-CoV2早期引入纽约市地区的方式”

    因此,那些缺少样本的样本是真实的,而不是想象中的虚构内容。 在本文引用的85个纽约样本中,我最后一次查看时仅剩下约22个样本。

    在2月数据集中,旧的进化枝A20a被分为进化枝20A,20B和XNUMXC,从而消除了美国数据的主导地位,并加剧了来自意大利和瑞典的污染源的影响。

    但这是我们向公众开放的最好,最详尽的遗传数据。

  221. Vidi 说:
    @anon

    Another way of looking at that same set of facts, plus the fact that China is playing catch up in Biological Warfare with legacy empires of English-Zion and Russia; the fact that Chinese scientist are engaged in China and elsewhere working on “BioDefense”, merely indicate an emerging empire is making rookie mistakes and having unintended releases. You can be sure the legacy empires had their little accidents when they started making Biological Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    Your theory, that the recent pathogen outbreaks are caused by China making “rookie mistakes” with lethal agents, does not explain how Iran got so precisely targeted with Covid-19. You might try to explain this by saying that Chinese workers brought the virus to Qom, but then you would also have to explain why Pakistan, which has even more Chinese workers, has not been so badly hit.

    So why does the coronavirus happen to be much more lethal in a country that Trump has been tormenting than it is in Pakistan, a country that The Donald is not bullying?

  222. dux.ie 说:
    @skrik

    >数据不足?

    福斯特(Forster)的数据是20月初之前的数据,大多数XNUMX世纪初期的进化枝都是从XNUMX月下旬开始发现并提交的,

    2020-06-03数据集
    排名| 年龄|部落|集合|国家|品系
    1| 101|20A|2020-04-27|Italy|Italy/TE26425/2020
    2| 99|20A|2020-05-10|Belgium|Belgium/ULG-10182/2020
    3| 98|20A|2020-03-24|Belgium|Belgium/PM-0324144/2020
    4| 97|20A|2020-04-09|France|France/OCC-18/2020
    5| 96|20A|2020-03-08|Spain|Spain/Madrid_LP23_5852/2020
    6| 95|20A|2020-04-29|Australia|Australia/VIC1495/2020
    6| 95|20A|2020-04-15|France|France/GE6058/2020
    6| 95|20A|2020-03-12|France|France/GE2722/2020
    6| 95|20A|2020-04-02|France|France/IDF4791/2020
    10| 93|20A|2020-03-10|France|France/HF2239/2020
    10| 93|20A|2020-03-14|Finland|Finland/14M16/2020
    10| 93|20A|2020-04-03|Austria|Austria/Graz-MUG6/2020

    但最重要的是,进化枝20s的死亡趋势与进化枝19A和19B(或Forsters的A,B和C)完全不同。

    >“杀手进化论”分类

    进化枝19A和19B主要分布在环太平洋地区,例如日本,韩国,中国,新加坡,美国。 大西洋边缘地区主要由进化枝20A,20B和20C组成,下图显示这些是杀手进化枝。 进化枝19s的百分比越高,人均死亡率越低,进化枝20s的百分比越高,死亡率也越高。

    锁定策略是一把两刃剑。 如果尽早实施,可以消除病毒。 延迟实施或“任其裂开”将创造出使新进化枝发展的污水池,并且它们更具毒性,因为它们是不受限制而生的,并且与创造它们的人(大多数是欧洲人)具有亲和力。 例如,二十多岁的进化枝无法在新加坡立足,但是对于北京来说,有些人具有古老的中国北方血统,并且有A型血统(像大多数欧洲人一样),他们很容易受到感染。 特别地,进化枝20A具有软锁定和隔离破坏能力,它们是高度无症状的。

    进化枝19A和19B的标签被交换,因为在中国占主导地位的进化枝是19A进化枝,但后来Nextstrain明确指出19B来自旧的进化枝B,所以我将其交换回来。

    • 回复: @skrik
  223. Vidi 说:
    @jadan

    If the thesis of the article is correct than there will be no end to this pandemic or a new one that follows or develops concurrently.

    Well, it’s conceivable that the perpetrators could die from one of the viruses they unleashed.

    Official pronouncements that the virus occurred naturally serve the purpose of stopping a global biological war from developing. This was an accidental release.

    这就是我的看法。

    The quick and effective response of the Chinese is explained by the fact that they knew what they were dealing with. They did not create massive new medical infrastructure in just two weeks because they were guessing what they were up against. They knew what they were dealing with because they developed it and it got out of hand.

    That could explain why Wuhan got hit so hard, but not why Qom was targeted so precisely. Why Iran’s holy city specifically and not some other country with even closer ties to China, such as Pakistan?

    • 回复: @skrik
  224. Vidi 说:
    @Cowboy

    Is Unz hiding under his bed again? Didn’t he predict like 10 million Americans dead by now?

    The high predictions were made before any US lockdown and assumed that the US would refuse to do the sensible thing. That almost happened.

    As it turned out, many Americans decided to isolate themselves before some states instituted lockdowns. The American people are often far more sensible than their leaders.

  225. Vidi 说:
    @Gerhard57NL

    “By May 2020, China had the situation under control and no more contaminations were reported”. This is not what news channels like NTD report. Look at their “China in focus” bulletins on YouTube. According to those, China has been in serious trouble since December last year, especially in Wuhan and Beijing. The Chinese Communist Party hides these facts and reports to the outside world that all is hunky dory. It would seem that Mr. Romanoff has obediently gathered CCP data.

    NTD is New Tang Dynasty, a purveyor of Falun Gong propaganda. The Falun Gong, in turn, is a front for the CIA.

  226. 231.No Friend Of The Devil says: June 29, 2020 at 12:25 am

    “The lockdowns are passive murder. . . . the majority of the medical and scientific communities have acknowledged that Covid is no more fatal than the seasonal flu, that the tests are extremely inaccurate, that the vaccines are unnecessary, and that the lockdown caused far greater health threats than corona flu.”

    I’m sorry to say this, but all of the above claims are false in their entirety. Not a shred of truth in any of them.

    I lived through the lockdown in Shanghai, and it was no more than a temporary inconvenience, as many others can testify. And Shanghai, with a population of more than 25 million, had only 26 infections and 7 deaths. New York, with much less population and who didn’t lock down, had around 400,000 cases and more than 30,000 deaths. To refer to a lockdown as “passive murder” is obscene. It is the US and America’s great friend Bolsonaro in Brazil who are engaging in passive muder.

    There has been no “acknowledgement” that COVID-19 is “no more fatal than the seasonal flu”. New York had a death rate of nearly 10%; many European countries have a fatality rate of 15% or higher. To date worldwide, there have been more than 10 million infections and more than 500,000 deaths. No “seasonal flu” has done this. Those making these claims are not medical experts but sociopaths with the same agenda as you apparently have.

    For you to say that “the lockdown caused far greater health threats than corona flu” is not only factually wrong but dangerous and also obscene.

    • 回复: @FB
    , @anonimo11
  227. Vidi 说:
    @DB Cooper

    @DB库珀

    哦,盎格鲁犹太复国主义帝国的奴隶,你有没有停止为帝国工作,散布他们的谎言? 今天你在煽动印度和中国之间的仇恨; 几周前,在日本和中国之间。 接下来是什么?

  228. skrik 说:
    @dux.ie

    再次感谢您的回复。

    进化枝19A和19B的标签被互换,因为在中国占主导地位的进化枝是19A进化枝

    毫无疑问,任何标签交换都是出于良好的意愿,我看到您正在顺应潮流=观察当前的发展。 这是一个报价:

    “Given the seriousness of the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, it is imperative that all efforts be made to identify the original source of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. In particular, it will be important to establish whether COVID-19 is due to a completely natural chance occurrence where a presumed bat virus was transmitted to humans via an intermediate animal host or whether COVID-19 has alternative origins. This information will be of paramount importance to help prevent any similar human coronavirus outbreak in the future.”

    That comes from a new-ish paper titled “In silico comparison of spike protein-ACE2 binding affinities across species; significance for the possible origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus” – but no matter; it shows that seemingly little to no progress has been made 面对面的人 any ‘true’ SARS-CoV-2 origin. But in this pursuit, I go back to Forster (100 early sequences) and genometracker (2334 isolates). Both link from a bat sequence, specifically RatG13, also mentioned in “In silico comparison of spike …” Both show a putative ‘ancestral’ form, both different from that which predominates in China. “In silico” mentions “China’s only BSL4 facility” 以所谓的暗示方式。 本文还讨论了 “a recombination event that occurred inadvertently or consciously in a laboratory” 作为可能的起点步骤。 现在,你提到 “the ‘Africa Origin Orange’ politicized the alleged source”“those above missing samples are real” – it seems to me, many ‘indicators’ are all pointing one-way, like such resulting on/from 9/11. rgds

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  229. skrik 说:
    @Vidi

    1st:

    This was an accidental release.
    That is my view

    2nd:

    That could explain why Wuhan got hit so hard, but not why Qom was targeted so precisely.

    Self-contradictory. rgds

  230. Vidi 说:

    Self-contradictory.

    为什么?

    • 回复: @skrik
  231. skrik 说:
    @Vidi

    计划

    意外释放

    与...发生冲突

    Qom was targeted so precisely

    • 回复: @Vidi
  232. Vidi 说:
    @skrik

    Because “accidental release” conflicts with “Qom was targeted so precisely”

    I see. Well, if you go back and read my comment (链接), you will see that I actually pointed out that specific contradiction. So I was wondering why you think the contradiction was contradictory.

    • 回复: @Vidi
  233. Vidi 说:
    @Vidi

    I think I can clear up the confusion.

    To quote Jaden, “Official pronouncements that the virus occurred naturally serve the purpose of stopping a global biological war from developing. This was an accidental release.” I agreed with that, in the sense that a natural accident — a thunderstorm, for example — is not anybody’s fault.

    Jaden went on to claim that Covid-19 was a human accident, that the Chinese acted so effectively because they were working on the virus and had a fire extinguisher ready. I disagreed with that. A human mistake leading to the accidental release of the coronavirus would have affected the world at random, and would not have hit the Shia holy city (Qom) with great precision.

    • 回复: @skrik
  234. JamesinNM 说:
    @Mustapha Mond

    The NWO has a wide range of chemical, biological, and energy weapons of varying lethality ready to use to kill people all over the world. The NWO and their weapons must be eliminated.

    • 回复: @Patagonia Man
  235. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Larry Romanoff

    Of course this fool is a nutcase…Covid is nothing like the flu…talk to a doctor that has treated Covid patients…

    People like this really get on my nerves…

  236. @JamesinNM

    “Major world powers, new and old, also face a novel reality: while the lethality of their military might be greater than ever, their capacity to impose control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at a historic low.”

    To put it bluntly, in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people, than to physically kill one million people; today it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people.= [emphasis mine] – former US National Security Advisor to Pres. Carter, Co-Founder of the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski, speech to Chatham House, London 17 November, 2008

    … and from US Senator Barry Goldwater who spent years in the US Senate, was an officer in the USAF and kept a private Alpha File that candidly recorded his private encounters with Kennedy, Carter, and other world leaders:

    “The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation for the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power: political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future.” – ‘With No Apologies’, US Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964

    NOTE: The Trilateral Commission was founded by David Rockefeller and zionist Brzezinski.

  237. dux.ie 说:
    @skrik

    >我回到福斯特

    如果将两个Forster的最早期基因样本映射到Nextstrain May系统发育树,您会发现分支之外现在有很多样本包含两个Forster的最早期基因样本,即,Forster提名的最近的共同祖先MRCA并不存在。对于这些新样本的MRCA,Forster的数据已过时。 当映射到较新的较细粒度的Nextstrain数据时,Forster的结果甚至是自相矛盾的,Forster进化枝B MRCA也在该分支之外。 偶然地可以证明,Forster的数据是Yu数据的总超集,而Yu指出了起源于美国。 在这个阶段,我对此没有坚定的信念。

    (托管站点不允许显示较大的图表)

    现在看一下贝德福德(Bedford)的早期系统发育树,他在华盛顿州的COVID19上吹了哨子。 根据他提供的原始数据而不是图形,最早的人类样本来自美国。 同样,他的早期成绩也不合时宜。

    https://nextstrain.org/groups/blab/sars-like-cov?c=host

    | –NODE_0000008 <– Bat / RaTG13,Pangolin / Guangdong和Human / SARSCov2的最新共同祖先MRCA
    | —NODE_0000009
    | —-pangolin /广东/ 1/2020 / <-穿山甲
    | —-pangolin /广东/ P2S / 2019 <—穿山甲
    | —NODE_0000010
    |-蝙蝠/云南/ RaTG13 / 2013 <—蝙蝠!!
    |-NODE_0000011 <—最近 以人为本 共同祖先 ??
    |-|美国/ TX1 / 2020 * FA <- 贝德福德最早的候选人
    |-| NODE_0000012
    |-| -USA / AZ1 / 2020 #YA * FA <- 贝德福德(Bedford)的第二任最早候选人
    |-| -NODE_0000013
    |-| –USA / IL1 / 2020 <— 贝德福德(Bedford)的第三位最早候选人
    |-| –NODE_0000014
    |-| —NODE_0000015
    |-|-武汉/ IPBCAMS-WH-01 / 2019 #YC * FB <–武汉后来的遗传菌株
    |-|-日本/ KY-V-029 / 2020 #YC * FB

    FA = Forster进化枝A,YA = Yu进化枝A,依此类推。

    只有具有一定议事日程的专家才会坚持使用过期数据,而这些数据已被更新后的数据无效,而忽略了结果的另一部分,尤其是当Forster断言两个早期样品时,一个来自中国,另一个来自美国。

    顺带一提,根据封套计算,Forster的非亚洲地区和汇总的tMRCA大约在武汉世界军事运动会期间。 Nextstrain Jun数据中的95%CI甚至可以追溯到2019年2019月(参见XNUMX年XNUMX月的西班牙数据),但由于该数据可能会发白,因此我对该日期不确定。

    • 回复: @skrik
  238. anonimo11 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    the mortality rates you quote are incorrect. And that is because they are CFR, and depend on test availability (and not only that). You should quote IFR, the fraction of people who have been exposed to the virus and have died. Those numbers are much closer to 0.3% (a compendium of 60+ papers is linked below).

    I will also object to the extravagant numbers like New York. If you force nursing home to take patients in, you are effectively doing something that has never been done, where the healthy are quarantined, and the people at risk are exposed. As it was, nation wide (in the USA) the highest mortalities were all in states with forced inoculations. Nursing homes are only 6% of elderly but they were close to 50% of deaths. In Europe also the highest mortalities were accompanied with some sort of nursing homes mishaps, including Sweden, but particularly Lombardy and Spain.

    Finally, there is the long standing discrepancy between the extravagant number of covid death certificates, and effective excess mortality, both in Europe and the USA. Strong flu with nasty symptoms? yes, the IFR of 0.3% shows that. It is 3 times an average flu. But many of us insist the impact has been distorted in the West.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zC3kW1sMu0sjnT_vP1sh4zL0tF6fIHbA6fcG5RQdqSc/edit#gid=0

  239. skrik 说:
    @Vidi

    Jaden went on to claim that Covid-19 was a human accident, that the Chinese acted so effectively because they were working on the virus and had a fire extinguisher ready. I disagreed with that

    Well if I may say so, you show a funny way of disagreeing; your words:

    That could explain why Wuhan got hit so hard, but not why Qom was targeted so precisely

    你的: “That could explain” seems to me to be expressing acceptance of Jaden’s thesis “because they developed it and it got out of hand” then again your words “Qom was targeted so precisely” wherein your “有针对性” contradicts Jaden’s “accidental.” [All said before.]

    I can’t know why you are pursuing this ‘storm in a teacup,’ perhaps some clearer language could help?

    I take this opportunity to disagree with Jaden’s thesis; IMHO the release of Covid-19 was neither accidental nor by the Chinese, who reacted like cut snakes the next millisecond after they recognised the significance of the PRRA insertion = furin cleavage site. Again IMHO, PRRA is ‘the smoking gun.’ rgds

    • 回复: @Astuteobservor II
  240. skrik 说:
    @dux.ie

    Thanks for your continuing engagement, kindly note that I do *不是*:

    坚持使用过时的数据

    我一直在寻找并且未能找到有关Forster等的任何更新。 或基因组追踪器,您现在提供了一个; 伟大+ thnx

    从你的 下一株 链接我们可以看到:

    [部分]系统发育SARS-CoV-2

    日本/ KY-V-029 / 2020
    武汉/ WIV05 / 2019
    武汉湖-1/2019
    瑞典01年2020月XNUMX日
    美国/ IL1 / 2020
    尼泊尔/ 61/2020
    美国/ CA1 / 2020

    [显示更紧密的关系 此处.]

    [1返回]蝙蝠/云南/ RmYN02 / 2019

    [2返回] bat /云南/ RaTG13 / 2013

    [3返回]穿山甲/广东/ P2S / 2019

    Wherein if I’m interpreting correctly it’s a ‘close race’ between USA/IL1/2020 and Nepal/61/2020 as the 1st SARS-CoV-2 descendent [each having one nucleotide mutation and divergence of 0.1794] and Wuhan-Hu-1/2019 as next? rgds

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  241. denk 说:
    @skrik

    To answer the last bit 1st, the rogue-state operators did not expect USA to get bitten

    The ‘blowback’ is a feature, not a bug.

    • 回复: @skrik
  242. denk 说:
    @Astuteobservor II

    FUKUS,
    They dont call it the 大撒旦 for nuthin….

  243. skrik 说:
    @denk

    功能而不是错误

    Thanks, and most likely. That post of mine that you replied to has ‘old,’ i.e. superseded info quoting Forster’s PNAS work; I am in discussions with @dux.ie, see latest at #249 and #252 above. Re my putative “rogue-state operators” I prefer “rogue-state operatives” since that conveys a more sinister tone. Apropos, IF any such exist AND they are spreading Covid-19 around like pixie-dust THEN they would need immunity. hmmm+rgds

    • 同意: denk
    • 回复: @denk
  244. denk 说:
    @skrik

    SARS1 2003 was most definitely
    a 种族特定的生物武器。
    从那些 邪恶 operatives.

  245. @skrik

    这很容易。

    If we go by your train of thought. It appears as though the moment China realized it was a bioweapons attack. They let it get out of the country deliberately. Then they clamp down super hard inside China. All to teach the country that thinks it is OK to release bio weapons inside China thinking China would take the economic hit and contain it like previous attacks.

    I don’t fault China at all for it’s actions if the above is what happened. It is better than WW3.

    • 回复: @skrik
  246. dux.ie 说:
    @skrik

    遗传世代与遗传年龄之间存在非常松散的联系,就像有时候您的叔叔可能比您最小的孩子还年轻。 对遗传年龄的科学确定相当复杂,除了台式计算机之外,还需要大量的计算资源。 我可以从Forster的小型数据集中生成遗传系统树,但是计算机由于时间系统树的不足而被炸毁。

    对于Forsters和Bedfordd,没有给出遗传年龄,因此默认情况下使用世代作为度量标准,这对于早期阶段可能是合理的,因为给定世代的年龄变化在早期很小。

    Nextstrain数据集具有遗传年龄,因此,如果更高的先前MaxAge数据神秘地从后来的数据集中消失了,那么搜索最高值并与先前的数据进行比较就可以了。 对于六月数据集,那些没有(新的)进化枝分类的数据意味着它们已经从新数据集中消失了。 因此,目前意大利有MaxAge样本。

    年龄| 进化枝| OldClade | 集合| 国家(地区)| 拉紧
    102 | | 未输入2020-04-01 | 新加坡| 新加坡/ 40/2020 <–缺失
    101 | 20A | A2a | 2020-04-27 | 意大利| 意大利/ TE26425 / 2020
    99 | 20A | A2a | 2020-05-10 | 比利时| 比利时/ ULG-10182 / 2020
    98 | | A2a | 2020-03-24 | 法国| 法国/ IDF3276 / 2020
    98 | | A2a | 2020-04-14 | 比利时| 比利时/ ITM_C456 / 2020
    98 | | A2a | 2020-04-18 | 卢森堡| 卢森堡/ LNS9272998 / 2020
    98 | 20A | | 2020-03-24 | 比利时| 比利时/ PM-0324144 / 2020
    98 | 20B | A2a | 2020-04-09 | 卢森堡| 卢森堡/ LNS3652733 / 2020
    98 | 20B | A2a | 2020-03-31 | 意大利| 意大利/ VR_20COV31-19 / 2020
    97 | 19A | | 2020-05-20 | 新加坡| 新加坡/ 347/2020
    97 | 20A | | 2020-04-09 | 法国| 法国/ OCC-18 / 2020
    97 | 20B | | 2020-03-13 | 芬兰| 芬兰/ 13M3 / 2020
    97 | 20C | A2a | 2020-05-04 | 瑞典| 瑞典/ 20-51167 / 2020
    96 | | A2a | 2020-03-23 | 法国| 法国/ ARA12265 / 2020
    96 | | A2a | 2020-03-29 | 意大利| 意大利/ TE7859 / 2020
    96 | 19B | B | 2020-03-28 | 西班牙| 西班牙/瓦伦西亚212/2020 <– MaxAge进化枝19B
    96 | 20A | A2a | 2020-04-13 | 德国| 德国/ BAV-MVP0186 / 2020
    96 | 20A | | 2020-03-08 | 西班牙| 西班牙/马德里_LP23_5852 / 2020
    96 | 20B | | 2020-03-22 | 以色列| 以色列/ 51141014/2020
    96 | 20B | | 2020-03-31 | 意大利| 意大利/ VR_20COV31-18 / 2020
    96 | 20C | | 2020-03-11 | 瑞典| 瑞典/ 20-50294 / 2020

    尽管我将进化枝19B标记为WuFlu,但目前进化枝19B的MaxAge示例实际上来自西班牙。 这为2019年XNUMX月在西班牙发现该病毒的最新报告提供了更大的帮助。

    • 回复: @skrik
  247. dux.ie 说:

    有一些间接证据表明SARSCoV2是进口到中国的。 没有可靠的消息来源找到该患者0,但一些研究人员将时间倒推到2019年XNUMX月下旬左右的``最近的共同祖先''tMRCA,可疑的是在武汉世界军事运动会前后。 有关于以后发生率的数据。

    已经确定,朝鲜爆炸性感染是由于一名韩国秘密基督教崇拜成员返回韩国,即该患者31岁。在此之前,韩国在1天中平均每天仅感染28次。 现在已知,朝鲜早期菌株是“未分型”的OldClades和B(WuFlu),因此这两个进化枝的作用是温和的。 现在可以证明,朝鲜基督教崇拜者带回的进化枝是OldClade A1a,在中国很少见。 中国从2019年25月2020日开始全面测序,直到100年1月中旬,大约有1个完全测序的数据被提交给GISAID,当时没有进化枝信息,而在中国也没有检测到进化枝A1a。 然后在1月中旬在武汉举行的秘密基督教礼拜会议在外国人的参与下进行,OldClade A1a被检测到。 除非朝鲜信教徒如此不幸地从普通中国人那里摘取了进化枝A1a,否则除非秘密信奉基督教的参会者中进化枝A31a像在常规教堂里的新加坡超级撒播者那样疯狂。 请注意,新加坡是许多中国游客的进口,所有这些都是“未分类的”进化枝,没有AXNUMXa进化枝。 因此,进化枝AXNUMXa最有可能是由外国基督教崇拜成员带到武汉的,并传递给了那个不幸的韩国患者XNUMX。

    中国SARSCov2进化枝分布的时间序列,

    韩国感染曲线上的韩国进化枝分布的时间序列是叠加的,

    从20年2019月25日到2020年20月中旬,中国进化枝分布的时间序列再次显示未检测到新进化枝XNUMXB,然后突然以短时间间隔出现了进化枝XNUMXs。 提取详细数据表明,

    年龄| 进化枝| 集合| 集合| 拉紧
    25 | 19A | 2020-03-12 | 北京/ DT-travelIRI01 / 2020
    28 | 19A | 2020-03-12 | 北京/ DT-travelNO01 / 2020
    22 | 19B | 2020-03-12 | 北京/ DT-旅行ES02 / 2020
    37 | 20A | 2020-03-12 | 北京/ DT-travelCA01 / 2020
    40 | 20C | 2020-03-13 | 北京/ DT-travelAT01 / 2020
    20 | 19A | 2020-03-16 | 北京/ DT-travelUK02 / 2020
    28 | 20B | 2020-03-18 | 北京/ DT-travelHU02 / 2020
    20 | 20B | 2020-03-22 | 北京/ DT-travelUK01 / 2020
    21 | 20A | 2020-03-24 | 北京/ DT-travelFR02 / 2020
    -
    25 | 20B | 2020-06-11 | 2020-06-11 | Beijing / IVDC-02-06 / 2020 <-来自鲑鱼
    53 | 20B | 2020-06-11 | 2020-06-11 | Beijing / IVDC-01-06 / 2020 <-来自鲑鱼

    他们都是来北京的外国游客。 似乎这种强度似乎有人在调查北京机场的安全。 没有大的爆发,即似乎所有进口都已被发现并及时隔离。 因此,似乎他们都没有通过。 此后,中国停止向GISAID提交结果,未提供可能的探测结果的反馈。 也许后来求助于 冷冻三文鱼把戏。 来自鲑鱼进化枝20B的病毒的遗传年龄要长得多(53),因此,如果有泄漏的话,它们就不是较早进口的后代。

  248. dux.ie 说:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.26.20140731v1#disqus_thread

    巴西圣卡塔琳娜州人类污水中的SARS-CoV-2年2019月

    “我们在两个独立收集的样本中检测到SARS-CoV-2 27th November 2019 (5.49±0.02 log基因组拷贝数/升)。

  249. 260.dux.ie说:

    “SARS-CoV-2 in human sewage in Santa Catalina, Brazil, November 2019”

    Thank you for that additional information. I believe there are now 9 countries that have detected COVID-19 in their wastewater samples from November and December of 2019, most stating the virus was almost certainly circulating there one or perhaps two months earlier. With this discovery, many countries are now testing wastewater and sewage for virus traces.

    It’s interesting to me that the standard narrative still being propagated is that the virus was first detected in the US in January, when that is not the case. Dr. Helen Chu discovered the virus in Washington State much earlier, as did California, and Japanese tourists became infected in Hawaii in September. Plus, US medical authorities are silent on the sporadic outbreaks of a strange viral pneumonia in many states beginning in July of 2019.

    COVID-19 had been seeded in many countries, by whatever method, from the late summer or early autumn of 2019. This story is not yet finished in the telling.

    • 同意: GomezAdddams
    • 回复: @skrik
  250. @dux.ie

    好吧,该死。 如果为真,那确实意味着中国废话的死。

  251. @dux.ie

    关于SARS-CoV-2的早期发现之一是在感染者的粪便中发现了它。

    29 2020三月 COVID-2肺炎恢复期间3名儿童粪便中可检测到的SARS-CoV-19病毒RNA https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.25795

    17年四月2020日 随着测试网络的扩大,澳大利亚将测试污水中的冠状病毒
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-17/australia-to-test-sewage-for-coronairus-as-testing-net-widens/12156858

    21年2020月XNUMX日– 在法国的废水处理厂进行的测试表明,冠状病毒的水平像临床病例一样会随着时间的推移而上升和下降
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/coronavirus-found-paris-sewage-points-early-warning-system

    30君2020 研究人员称,19年2019月在西班牙废水中发现了COVID-XNUMX
    https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-06-29/COVID-19-found-in-Spanish-wastewater-in-March-2019-say-researchers-RJ2ZnDL8Ag/index.html

    干杯!

  252. skrik 说:
    @Astuteobservor II

    They let it get out of the country deliberately

    That’s not my recollection, more that Wuhan closed down as tightly as possible as quickly as possible, recalling that Chinese were ‘frequent flyers’ and the Chinese new year celebrations were extremely imminent; allowed were ‘repatriation’ flights, one could expect that those returning ‘home’ would go into quarantine, at the request of the R2P local authorities? Apropos, I recall reading about an uncontrolled exodus from NY after the virus was known to be present. Generally, authorities in the ‘West’ did little to nothing in preparation during their period of grace, then recall @denk’s ‘The ‘blowback’ is a feature, not a bug.’ Then, most people [in the ‘West’] get most of their information from the [corrupt&venal] MSM+PFBCs [=publicly financed broadcasters], IIRC it was Trump among others putting this ‘China sent it to the world’ meme, other such being ‘it’s only a [normal] flu’ and worse ‘lockdowns are killing more than Covid-19!’ On reflection, perhaps these memes are coming more via ‘social media,’ like the PC/LGBTIQ nonsense? Looking for some clarity, perhaps you could try to substantiate that whole “deliberately” allegation? Then

    it is better than WW3

    agreed + rgds

    • 回复: @Astuteobservor II
  253. skrik 说:
    @dux.ie

    Slight breakthrough, but 1st I’m not understanding much of what you present, and none of how you might be deriving your statistical results, like your ‘Age’ number, say. No matter; “弗里斯特·埃尼特沃斯·德·鲍尔·尼特·肯特”

    如果要去:

    https://www.gisaid.org/epiflu-applications/next-hcov-19-app/

    然后可以:a)单击左上角的小箭头,然后b)单击“颜色依据”框,然后c)选择“基因型”,然后可以探索系统发育,例如通过查看例如,分别留在1A,19B,19A,20B和20C进化枝中。

    Working …

    但是,除了 “遗传产生与遗传年龄之间的联系非常松散” you didn’t really answer my question about trying to identify the 1st SARS-CoV-2 descendant; IF one has faith in the nextstrain software producing this phylogeny, THEN isn’t the 1st from the left [defined as having least mutations] the actual, natural ‘top of the heap?’ [That would of course depend on the 1st displayed being the earliest discovered – but shouldn’t that be the case anyway?] rgds

    PS您讲的一个好故事 “探究安全性” 日Thnx

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  254. vot tak 说:

    Gilead Plans to Charge Over \$3,000 for COVID-19 Antiviral Remdesivir

    https://sputniknews.com/science/202006291079751750-gilead-plans-to-charge-over-3000-for-covid-19-antiviral-remdesivir/

    “we have set a price for governments of developed countries of \$390 per vial. Based on current treatment patterns, the vast majority of patients are expected to receive a 5-day treatment course using 6 vials of remdesivir, which equates to \$2,340 per patient,” O’Day added.

    However, he noted that “because of the way the US system is set up and the discounts that government healthcare programs expect, the price for US private insurance companies, will be \$520 per vial,” which translates to a total cost of \$3,120.

    However, the high price of the drug has been blasted by experts, who note Gilead developed the drug using public funding.

    “Remdesivir should be in the public domain,” Peter Maybarduk, a lawyer for consumer group Public Citizen, told the Associated Press. He called the price “an outrage,” noting that at least \$70 million in public money had been sunk into the drug’s development.

    “The price puts to rest any notion that drug companies will ‘do the right thing’ because it is a pandemic,” Peter Bach, a health policy expert at New York’s Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, told the outlet. “The price might have been fine if the company had demonstrated that the treatment saved lives. It didn’t.”

    This isn’t the first time Gilead has come under fire for its pricing practices, either. The company also holds a monopoly on manufacturing human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) antiviral drug Truvada, for which it charges in excess of \$20,000 per year to halt the onset of acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). The HHS won a lawsuit against Gilead in February, arguing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) holds the patent for Truvada and a related pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP) drug, Descovy, since they were developed from publicly funded HIV research.

    A similar lawsuit filed in December 2019 by HIV prevention group PrEP4All Collaboration alleges Gilead purposefully delayed development of Descovy for five years in order to maintain its monopoly on PreP drugs via the Truvada patent, even though Descovy was proven to be more effective at treatment HIV than Truvada.”

    Publicly subsidize the costs and privatise the profits, the capitalist way. Note also the holding back of Descovy so they could milk Truvada longer. Meanwhile the maga maggot bought up gilead’s first 3 months of production of remdesivir.

    • 回复: @Patagonia Man
    , @denk
  255. skrik 说:
    @Larry Romanoff

    COVID-19 had been seeded in many countries, by whatever method, from the late summer or early autumn of 2019

    Sure looks like it, then there was 评估: The cases of lung injury date back to at least April 2019.

    It has occurred to me, that in the task of ‘seeding,’ human agency must be involved somewhere along the chain, like filling buckets with ‘pixie-dust’ or loading, releasing then retrieving aerosol-producing drones, say. [‘The perps’ could not afford for any such to be discovered, still wet perhaps but intact!] Whatever, but (except possibly military-personal excursions to Wuhan), immunity [forget legal; health=survival] would be required for the rogue-regime operatives involved? Just saying & rgds

  256. Jiminy 说:

    If you look at the Maryland Health Department bulletin on the vaping lung disease, they were seeing cases as early as January 2019.

  257. @skrik

    All conjectures. Nothing to substantiate.

  258. @Sya Beerens

    That was a really good read. Thanks for the link.

  259. Parfois1 说:
    @Sya Beerens

    Thank you for posting that link to the

    “The Prophetic Faculty of Epidemic Photography: Chinese Wet Markets and the Imagination of the Next Pandemic” dated 6/2/2016.

    Certainly a wake-up notice but also a revelation that something was in the offing and the information groundwork was being prepared for the event. It’s in the early warning narratives that one finds hints of what is in the pipeline.

    Somehow it’s been forgotten – or not mentioned often – the US CDC hiring of a large number (about 100?) public health quarantine officers in November 2019. I have attempted to do a perfunctory search now for the CDC advertisement to check for more details but could not find it. Instead, I found a Reuters’s article denouncing the “conspiracy theorists” for making a “false claim”:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cdc-job-coronavirus/false-claim-a-november-2019-job-posting-indicates-the-cdc-knew-of-or-planned-the-covid-19-outbreak-idUSKBN21Z2KN

    which sounds like an official confirmation that the “false claim” is too close to the truth.

    • 回复: @Patagonia Man
  260. @vot tak

    I read somewhere the war criminal, Donald Rumsfeld, former US Sec. of Defense (during the illegal and immoral Iraq invasion and occupation of a free and independent sovereign nation WITHOUT UN resolutions) was Chair at Gilead from 1997-2001. He’ll still be networking the Big Pharma industry.

    • 回复: @vot tak
  261. @Parfois1

    “which sounds like an official confirmation that the “false claim” is too close to the truth.”

    When it comes to the government, never believe anything – until its 正式 denied!

  262. dux.ie 说:
    @skrik

    在开发系统树和进化枝时,研究人员需要考虑一系列SNP标记,有些可能使用几千种,有些可能使用几百种。 例如,贝德福德使用了所有〜30K的RNA碱基对,而福斯特仅使用了一个小子集,如rdf文件中的gisaid_cov2020_sequencesMar03PlusPreviousPlusWuhan1MinusPangolin1-274MinusFlanksSnippets26-29BatrootMinusBatDeletionCoded-39-88.rdf,这可能确定了重要的RNA位置,并列出了重要的RNA位置,进化枝。

    然而,进化枝仅用少数标记来确定,例如单个等位基因突变(我必须检查特异性)将蝙蝠冠状病毒与人类冠状病毒分开,单个D614G氨基酸突变将进化枝19A和19B与进化枝分开20A,20B和20C。

    年龄不是按时间顺序的年龄,而是衡量所考虑的所有突变的量。 因此,如果您想查看遗传行为,则可以使用进化枝信息,而要找到患者0,则早期进化枝的年龄和年龄之间存在相互作用,即,在每个进化枝中,仅用一手充满标记的手就可以确定其种类。年龄或突变数,相对于参考样品,“年龄越小”,“年龄”越多。

    早代进化枝(在靠近根部的系统发育树中较高)往往只有很少的样本,很少能随着时间的流逝而抵抗突变。 因此,“较旧”的样本在样本较多的任何子类别中都趋于降低。

    贝德福德估计,蝙蝠RaTG13与迄今为止发现的“最古老”人类样本之间的时间约为50年。 患者0将在该间隔内的任何时间。 除非您有一个大型蝙蝠冠状病毒样本(或穿山甲)可以追溯到0年前,否则发现只有上述一个突变且没有RATG13其余的〜30K RNA的确切患者50的可能性非常小。 。 否则,他们将确定的只是被政治化的患者0。

    • 回复: @skrik
  263. denk 说:
    @vot tak

    I heard Vineet D Menachery, the chief scientist who led that infamous Bat coronavirus GOF research, cited in that prestigious NATURE mag 2015, went on to develope the magical 瑞昔韦

    真是太棒了 巧合 !

    • 谢谢: Patagonia Man
    • 回复: @vot tak
    , @skrik
  264. vot tak 说:
    @Patagonia Man

    从他们的网站:

    https://www.gilead.com/news-and-press/press-room/press-releases/1997/1/donald-h-rumsfeld-named-chairman-of-gilead-sciences

    “Press Releases

    January 03, 1997

    Donald H. Rumsfeld Named Chairman of Gilead Sciences

    Foster City, CA — January 3, 1997

    Gilead Sciences Inc. (Nasdaq: GILD) today announced that board member Donald H. Rumsfeld will assume the position of Chairman, effective immediately. Mr. Rumsfeld succeeds Michael L. Riordan, M.D., who founded Gilead in 1987 and has served as Chairman since 1993. Dr. Riordan will continue to serve as a director on the board.

    “Gilead is fortunate to have had Don Rumsfeld as a stalwart board member since the company’s earliest days, and we are very pleased that he has accepted the Chairmanship,” Dr. Riordan said. “He has played an important role in helping to build and steer the company. His broad experience in leadership positions in both industry and government will serve us well as Gilead continues to build its commercial presence.”

    • 谢谢: Patagonia Man
  265. vot tak 说:
    @denk

    I don’t know if he has connections to gilead, though he has worked with others who are gilead connected. Example:

    Broad-spectrum antiviral GS-5734 inhibits both epidemic and zoonotic coronaviruses

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5567817/#!po=75.3521

    Several of the researchers are listed as affiliated with gilead, but not Menachery. This is apparently his current site:

    https://microbiology.utmb.edu/faculty/vineet-d-menachery-phd

    He may also work for gilead in some capacity or his lab may receive funding or support through gilead. I don’t know.

  266. skrik 说:
    @denk

    真是太棒了 巧合!

    Yes, and what a find; congrats. I’m supposing the paper is:

    “循环传播的蝙蝠冠状病毒的SARS样簇显示出人类出现的潜力”
    https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

    A ‘snip’ from the abstract:

    “Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system2, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone.” [my bolding]

    Me: Charming from Vineet D Menachery et al., thnx to denk. rgds

    PS I noticed a precursor paper:

    “Isolation and characterization of a bat SARS-like coronavirus that uses the ACE2 receptor”
    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711

    Me: SARS-Cov-2 attacks via the ACE2 receptor; the nastiness/idiocy goes on…

    • 回复: @denk
  267. skrik 说:
    @dux.ie

    再次感谢; 重新[取代] Forster,我在以下位置找到了他的rdf文件:

    https://fluxus-engineering.com/cov2020.htm

    并进行了Multalin比较(请参阅PS):I had to laugh; the number of ‘mismatches’ corresponds to the number of ‘nicks’ [= mutation steps] along the line from ‘bat’ to Forster’s ‘A’ clade.

    现在,在您的nextstrain引用的帮助下,我了解了进化枝之间的差异。

    I also understand the vast ‘mutation’ distance between SARS-CoV2 and RaTG13 or RmYN02, say. It really does suggest a man-made origin, then see my #280 re “generated and characterized a chimeric virus.”

    我看到您正在考虑早在2年12月2019日就污水中SARS-CoV0痕迹的报告,这样做意味着对'患者XNUMX'的搜索变得相当无聊,因为该搜索现已在全球范围内有效=甚至没有机会渺茫?

    但这又引出了另一个问题,那就是在武汉像瞪羚一样跳起来之前,SARS-CoV2怎么能如此活跃而又不被人们注意到呢? rgds

    PS
    具有层次聚类的多序列比对
    F.CORPET,1988年,核酸。 酸性研究,16(22),10881-10890

    • 回复: @dux.ie
  268. denk 说:
    @skrik

    Lots of trolls touted it as the 吸烟枪 for Wuhan lab culpability, just cuz Xi Zhengli’s name appeared on it.

    Fact is, Xi appeared after 15 murikkan contributors led by Vineet.
    Apparently it’s a token acknowledgement for her donation of Bats and virii samples.

    That report Looks more like an indictment for UNC than Wuhan !

    • 回复: @skrik
  269. skrik 说:
    @denk

    Well, silly me; this is not new, 1st mention of chimera in my archive [via unz] is:

    “China’s New Coronavirus: An Examination of the Facts
    拉里·罗曼诺夫(Larry Romanoff)
    Global Research, January 25, 2020”
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas-new-coronavirus-an-examination-of-the-facts/5701662

    1st mention of both chimera and Zhengli is:

    “ 27年2020月XNUMX日
    As Virus Spreads Over The Planet Governments Are Slow To React”
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/02/coronavirus-globally.html

    That report [A SARS-like cluster …] Looks more like an indictment for UNC than Wuhan!

    Agreed; the significance of it is that constructing a SARS-like chimera capable of infecting humans was known technology. IMHO, what *是* new, different and deadly is the PRRA insertion. rgds

    • 谢谢: denk
  270. dux.ie 说:
    @skrik

    > SARS-CoV2如何如此活跃而又未被注意到

    看看韩国的例子,在流感季节,旧clade U和B被测序了28天,每天感染约1次。 他们可以在测序之前更早到达那里。 如果不是因为武汉的爆发,就不会引起注意。

    一月份,武汉发表了一篇论文,指出具有A型血统的人更容易接受。 23andMe重申了这一点。 像北京这样的武汉市,由于古代同化者的血型A相对较高。 并非来自中国的一篇论文将其范围缩小到具有SNP标记rs35074065-deletion的人。 从1KGP起,

    http://grch37.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Variation/Population?db=core;r=21:42833020-42834020;submit=Go;v=rs35074065;vdb=Variation;vf=539539913

    EUR 0.433
    SAS 0.350
    AMR 0.269
    奥地利0.079
    EAS 0.006
    CHS 0(华南,在TW和SG中占多数)

    现在感染在武汉开始就不足为奇了。

    • 谢谢: skrik
    • 回复: @Chinaman
  271. 亲爱的拉里,
    Just a little suggestion. Claiming that ConJob-19 started in bats is laughable. I know it is hard not to lie. We are all sympathetic to Jews’ and their need to reflexively scream ‘anti-semitism’ or ‘bat soup’ and other ridiculous lies. Now that you and your tribe have reached the zenith of power on this planet try not to sound like a street hustler.
    It takes a lifetime to build a reputation and only one mistake to ruin it. I would have though you guys would figure this out by now.

    Sincerely,
    Another raging anti-semite.

  272. Chinaman 说:
    @dux.ie

    谢谢dux.ie

    这是黄金。

    您显然知道您的知识,我一直希望看到更多类似forrester的研究来确定COVID-19的来源。

    认真地说,我能直接与您联系的最佳方式是什么?

  273. @Herald

    Whirr, click, virus blows out the window at Fort Detrick. How could it possibly reach Springfield without infecting every village in between? Like, duh! In a briefcase, on a bus, in a car with closed windows, on a motorcycle. How do viruses usually travel? Why Holmes! Are you suggesting it might have been carried in someone’s NOSE?

  274. Covid 19 in Barcelona sewer water March 2019–. Likewise Covid has been around in waves 1948 –again in 1968—and struck again in 1988 but it was not diagnosed as Covid-19. It was written off as a viral infection- or flu—

  275. @Johan

    The Western elites shouldn’t count their coronachickens before they’re hatched. People are getting mad, they’re getting more aware of the scam that is being foisted upon them, and they’re getting ready to pull out the pitchforks.

    The problem for the elites is that there aren’t enough cops and soldiers around to enforce their tyrannical schemes. They know this, and are scared shitless of what might happen if their scam fails.

  276. @Godfree Roberts

    Author has Trump Derangement Syndrome. Leaves his entire article in doubt as far as I see it. This sort of irrationality is not indicative of functioning logic centers of the brain.

  277. aj54 说:
    @Jafbm

    give it a try, a couple of examples

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