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年轻,男性和单身,这很烂。 不这样认为吗? 转到 美国互动单打地图 并查看20至39岁年龄段的情况。 几乎所有地方的单身男人都比单身女人多。

实际情况更糟。 一方面,没有孩子的单身人士的失衡更加严重。 这不是一个微不足道的因素,因为单身母亲仅在可以进行性关系的意义上是“单身”。 他们仍在从以前​​的关系中抚养后代,许多人对生更多的孩子不感兴趣。

然后是一夫多妻制(或“一夫多妻制”,使用首选术语),其中少数男性控制着与大量女性的性接触。 如果我们比较1940-1949年和1970-1979年的美国成年人群,我们发现女性的终身伴侣中位数从2.6增加到5.3,男性从6.7增加到8.8(Liu等人,2015)。 由于男性比女性更易变,因此年轻女性比年轻男性更容易发生性行为。 从衣原体(最常见的性传播疾病)的感染率中可以粗略地看出这一点。 西班牙裔美国人仍然表现出男性比女性更多的性活动的传统模式,该比例是男性的7.24%和女性的4.42%。 白人美国人则相反:男性为1.38%,女性为2.52%(Miller等,2004).

最后,有一个种族角度。 与非裔美国人相比,这种性别比例在非裔美国人中更为偏斜,这主要是因为后者在出生时的性别比较低,而在年轻男性中死亡率较高。

很难避免得出结论,许多年轻白人被排除在婚姻市场之外……或任何形式的异性恋关系。 曾经认为这种妻子短缺是暂时的,这是由于婴儿潮时期的男人离婚并从较小的“婴儿胸围”人群中娶了年轻女性。 随着时间的流逝,他们将变得年纪太大而无法与年轻男子竞争,这个问题应该会解决。

如今,婴儿潮的高峰正在进入生命的第七个十年,但“互动单身人士地图”的更新显示,性别不平衡并未改变。 那有什么呢? 人口统计学家似乎过多地关注了婴儿潮对婴儿潮的影响,而对其他同样重要的因素的关注却不够,更重要的是,没有迹象表明它会消失。 这些因素可以总结如下。

老年男子重新进入伴侣市场

我们有一个伴侣市场,那里有20至50岁的男性争夺20至40岁的女性。 这本身并不是什么新鲜事。 但是还有其他事情。

婴儿潮使一个同样重要但长期的趋势黯然失色:越来越多的男人生活在40岁以上。无论是否有婴儿潮,我们仍然会看到许多年长的男人离婚并娶年轻的女人。 原因不只是自由离婚法。 这也是事实,我们的老年人口占人口的比例要高得多。

当然,我们还会看到年轻男子与“美洲狮”搭配使用,但是这种选择存在局限性,正如新西兰的一项研究指出的那样:

男性伴侣可能想与一个年纪较小或有孩子的人伴侣,而老年妇女则可能无法做到(由于身体原因或因为她选择不生育孩子)。 年轻的男性伴侣可能不想成为现有孩子的继父。 研究表明,生育关系可能是这种关系的最终破坏者。 (劳顿和卡利斯特,2010年)

出生时性别比例失衡的持续存在

在欧洲血统的人中,每105名女性中就有大约100名男性出生。 由于男孩的婴儿死亡率较高,该性别比例在童年时期曾经下降到平均水平。 然后,由于战争,工业事故和其他危害,成年后甚至下降了很多。 这不是遥远的过去。 如果您与战后时代的成年女性交谈,她们会告诉您他们担心三十岁以后仍会单身。 在那个年龄,只有很少的单身男人到处走走。

好吧,事情已经变了。 得益于现代医学和自1945年以来的相对和平,出生时性别比例的偏差现在一直持续到成年。在美国35-39岁年龄段和40-44岁年龄段,女性的数量开始超过男性。英国的年龄段。

男女同性偏好均等化

从历史上看,同性偏好在男人中比在女人中更为普遍。 根据最近的一项研究,这种性别差距似乎正在缩小:

男性和女性的百分比分布非常相似; 然而,与被确定为同性恋者的女性(1.8%)相比,被确定为同性恋者的男性比例更高(1.4%),与男性(0.9%)相比,被确定为双性恋女性的比例更高(0.4%)。 (CDCP,2014年,第5页。 XNUMX)

离婚差距

目前,美国白人女性的外婚人数比美国白人男性多,尤其是在较年轻的年龄段。 这种差异主要体现在与非裔美国人的婚姻中,与西班牙裔美国人的婚姻中没有性别差异,而与亚裔美国人的婚姻中则没有相反的性别差异(雅各布斯和拉波夫,2002年; Passel等人,2010年)。 总体而言,这一因素进一步扭曲了美国白人社区中年轻单身男人与年轻单身女人的比例。

这种差异并不是新的。 对于法律婚姻和普通法婚姻而言,它的范围都是新的。 从美国白人妇女所生子女的统计数据中,尤其是由非白人伴侣所生子女的比例,可以得出一个想法。 就整个美国而言,2013年的比例在11%至20%之间(不确定性是由于190,000例出生而未说明父亲的种族)。 相比之下,1990年的比例在5%至13%之间(2013疾病控制和预防中心另见 Silviosilver,2015年).

每当讨论这个问题时,通常都会有保证,在种族隔离后的世界中,这种差距将消失,而世界已经被清除为“白人特权”。 我不确定。 欧洲女性的表型似乎很受欢迎,即使白人是地缘政治弱者,情况也是如此。 如今,“白人奴隶制”一词只是卖淫的代名词,但它最初意味着奴役肤色白皙的妇女,以卖给北非,中东和南亚的客户。 在这种贸易的鼎盛时期,即1500年至1650年,每年有10,000多名东欧人被奴役出口(科沃兹耶奇(Kolodziejczyk),2006; Skirda,2010年)。 绝大多数是年轻妇女和青春期前的男孩,他们因其外表而受到重视。 但是他们无能为力。

不,我认为随着白人失去“特权”,这种偏爱不会消失。

退出策略

因此,越来越多的年轻人被留在架子上,特别是在美国白人。 他们如何应付? 通常是通过访问互联网网站,录像带或杂志上的色情内容。 爱情娃娃是另一种选择,并且随着它们变得更像人类,不仅在身体上,而且在说话和互动能力上,可能会越来越受欢迎。

另一种选择是婚姻。 过去,这种趋势主要涉及与东亚或西班牙裔女性结婚的年长男性,但现在我们看到大量年轻男性通过互联网约会网站结婚。 尽管非裔美国人社区本地有单身女性,但有更多的倾向将目光投向海外,通常是面向东欧,南美或东亚的女性。

然后是性别重新分配,这意味着要么进入伴侣市场的另一端,要么进入女同性恋市场。 这是一个可行的策略,更重要的是,因为许多白人男孩可以变成热辣的跨性别女人。 我并不是说有些年轻人实际上是按照这些思路思考的,但性别重新分配正在发挥这种作用。

最后是“游戏”。 我对游戏的态度就像对性别重新分配的态度一样。 两者都是试图将表型可塑性的界限推到其通常范围之外,并且都无法完全达到期望的结果。 很多男孩不喜欢玩游戏,这有充分的理由,就像有些人是男性一样有充分的理由。 男性害羞不是病态。 这是对社会环境的一种适应,这种社会环境重视一夫一妻制和较高的父辈投资,同时又污蔑性冒险主义。 我们对男性害羞的战争反映了我们建立唐·胡安斯(Don Juans)和单身母亲社会的错误愿望。

但是,如果游戏有效,为什么不呢? 无论您的船浮在水上。

总结

理想情况下,应该在社会层面上解决这种性别失衡问题,但是我认为在不久的将来这种可能性不大。 如果有的话,公共政策的决定可能会加剧当前的失衡。 公共政策的变化通常是从一个漫长的过程开始的,这个过程始于人们大声疾呼并表达他们的关切,但是,即使第一步也不会很快采取。 年轻的单身男人更喜欢保持沉默,并发明不存在的女友。 在话语创作的主要领域中,他们往往也处于边缘地位,例如印刷和在线新闻,电视,电影和广播制作,书籍写作等。遍历任何杂志,您可能会看到更多关于...问题的信息。单身女性。

因此,这种失衡很可能会继续通过个体策略在个体层面上得到解决。

參考資料

疾病预防与控制中心。 (2014)。 2013年全国健康访问调查中的性取向:质量评估,《生命与健康统计》,第2版(169),XNUMX月
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_02/sr02_169.pdf

疾病预防与控制中心。 (2013)。 生命统计在线
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data_access/Vitalstatsonline.htm (有关讨论,请参见Silviosilver,2015年 https://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-last-push-back-against-liberalism/#comment-896920 )

Jacobs,JA和TB Labov。 (2002)。 XNUMX个种族和族裔之间通婚的性别差异, 社会学论坛, 17,621-646。
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1021029507937

Kolodziejczyk,D。(2006)。 奴隶狩猎和奴隶赎回作为企业:XNUMX至XNUMX世纪的黑海北部地区, 现代东方, 86,1,《奥斯曼帝国与贸易》,第149-159页。
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25818051?sid=21105312761261&uid=3737720&uid=3739448&uid=2&uid=4

Z. Lawton和P. Callister。 (2010)。 老年男女关系:“酷儿”的社会现象。 研究笔记,政策研究所,工作文件10/02
http://ips.ac.nz/publications/files/be0acfcb7d0.pdf

Liu,G.,S。Hariri,H。Bradley,SL Gottlieb,JS Leichliter和LE Markowitz。 (2015)。 美国,14岁至59岁的青少年和成年人的性行为趋势和模式,性传播疾病, 42,20-26。
http://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Abstract/2015/01000/Trends_and_Patterns_of_Sexual_Behaviors_Among.6.aspx

Miller,WC,CA Ford,M。Morris,MS Handcock,JL Schmitz,MM Hobbs,MS Cohen,KM Harris和JR Udry。 (2004)。 在美国,年轻人中的衣原体和淋球菌感染率很高, JAMA, 291,2229-2236。
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=198722

Passel,JS,W。Wang和P. Taylor。 (2010)。 美国七分之一的新婚是异族或种族间的,皮尤研究中心,社会与人口趋势,
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2010/06/04/ii-overview-2/

Skirda,A.(2010年)。 La traite des Slaves。 勃朗峰八世e 金十八e 末世,巴黎,巴黎Ésitionsde Max Max Chaleil。

Soma,J.(2013年)。 互动单打地图
http://jonathansoma.com/singles/

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  1. JayMan 说: • 您的网站

    从历史上看,同性偏好在男性中比在女性中更为普遍。

    好吧,他们 鉴定 现在更多。 但他们过去实际上在做什么? 今天,承认被同性吸引的女性比男性多得多:

    Female Same-Sex Attraction Revisited | JayMan’s Blog

    At present, there are more White American women outmarrying than White American men, particularly in younger age groups. This disparity is mainly in marriages with African American men …

    这种差异并不新鲜。 新的是它的范围,对于合法和普通法婚姻。 可以从美国白人妇女所生子女的统计数据中得出一个想法,特别是非白人伴侣所生子女的比例。 就美国整体而言,2013 年的比例在 11% 至 20% 之间

    And here I go contributing to that statistic. 🙂 Typically however, it’s the lower quality (and presumably lower-IQ) White women who marry out. Since fertility trends are such that the highest IQ White men are reproducing most, creating an overall neutral to eugenic fertility trend for IQ…

    独裁可以等待吗? | JayMan的博客

    ……如果处于底层的男性被排除在伴侣市场之外,这也许并不是一件坏事。

    因此,越来越多的年轻人被留在架子上,特别是在美国白人。 他们如何应付? 通常是通过访问互联网网站,录像带或杂志上的色情内容。 爱情娃娃是另一种选择,并且随着它们变得更像人类,不仅在身体上,而且在说话和互动能力上,可能会越来越受欢迎。

    我很好奇这些被关起来的人的命运。

    据记载,在过去的一个世纪里,有 10-25% 的男性未能生育。 假设这些是基因负担最重的男性(一个安全的假设),这对人口的健康可能是一件好事。

    然后是性别重新分配,这意味着要么进入伴侣市场的另一端,要么进入女同性恋市场。 这是一个可行的策略,更重要的是因为许多白人男孩可以变成性感的跨性别女人。

    ~1 in 10,000 I believe, right? 🙂

    我对游戏的态度就像我对性别重新分配的态度。 两者都试图将表型可塑性的范围推到其通常的极限之外,但都不能完全达到预期的结果。

    对!

  2. I like the analogy between Game and gender re-assignment. The folks employing both desperately want to believe that they can turn themselves into something they’re not. I say this as someone who has followed Game closely for years, longer than I’ve been aware of HBD. Game will at best create superficial changes in a person’s sexual interactions; an illusion, if you will. Much in the way gender re-assignment may mean a change in a man’s body parts and hormone levels, but not the things that more fundamentally make one male or female, like brain organization and XX vs. XY chromosomes.

    There’s a reason why I tell all my friends that Houellebecq is the most prescient fiction writer alive today. The sexual market is just as brutal as the economic market, even if failure on the sexual market doesn’t mean you’re a homeless bum on the streets. Expect important social changes by 2020 if the sexual dynamics don’t change significantly in the US (I expect at least the legalization of prostitution).

  3. While I’m all for people procreating within their racial groups, if you’re a white male of even moderate stature and attractiveness there is 不缺 有吸引力的,可用的亚洲女性。

    • 同意: M. Hartley
    • 回复: @freedom-cat
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  4. >>My attitude toward game is like my attitude toward gender reassignment. Both are attempts to push the envelope of phenotypic plasticity beyond its usual limits,<<

    I think a certain amount of Game theory (the Roissy stuff) can be useful in helping young men not to pedestalise young women into unknowable goddesses. It's particularly useful for naturally shy, provider types, the denigrated 'betas', to help them 'act up' a bit and roleplay more towards the confident type that women actually want. This only works if they combine this with human empathy towards the girls and seek mutual benefit rather than exploitation, though – just as a practical matter, you have to be a good actor to be an effective cad. But helping decent guys overcome excessive reticence, and put on enough of a Game face to allow a girl to pretend to herself that he's a bit of a bad boy… well that's a good thing.

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  5. “An idea may be gleaned from statistics on children born to White American women, specifically the proportion fathered by a non-White partner. For the U.S. as a whole the proportion in 2013 was between 11% and 20% (the uncertainty is due to 190,000 births for which the father’s race was not stated). By comparison, the proportion in 1990 was between 5% and 13% (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2013; see also Silviosilver, 2015).”

    我质疑这些数字。 他们似乎太高了。

  6. Cpluskx 说:

    I may be wrong but I think this imbalance is mainly a result of women having equal rights with men (not a bad thing) and becoming economically self-sufficient. I think with the resources and higher SES they have now they go for the highest SES guys and prefer to stay single rather than marrying down / marrying an average guy, especially the women with highest SES. I guess situation is similar in entire West and in a lot of other places. Some research says there is dysgenic fertility in US (as a result of this) while Jayman says it’s ok.

    显然,如果由于这种新的社会安排而导致生育障碍,西方将像中东一样下降,平均智商下降,但由于基因工程和人工智能革命来得很快,事情可能会好起来。 (当然低SES的男人要受苦了一段时间)

  7. German_reader 说:

    “than among African Americans, mainly because the latter have a lower sex ratio at birth ”

    我是否正确理解这一点,美国黑人的出生性别比(!)与白人不同? 我知道出生的男孩多于女孩,但对我来说这完全是新闻,不同的人口群体之间存在差异……这是什么原因?

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  8. 弗罗斯特教授,

    I enjoyed reading your article, but I’d like to further discuss the data you’ve included in the article.

    If we compare the 1940-1949 and 1970-1979 cohorts of American adults, we find an increase in the number of median lifetime partners from 2.6 to 5.3 among women and from 6.7 to 8.8 among men (Liu et al., 2015).

    The median number of opposite-sex partners fell for both men and women, from 2002 to 2007. The median number of opposite-sex partners for the 1970-1979 female cohort is slightly under 4. For the similar-age male cohort, median partner count was approximately ~6.

    See this link (page 19 and page 20): http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf
    The above study has a sample size (N) over 120,000 and was conducted back in 2007 by the CDC. So it’s a fairly good study.

    The percentage of men and women with 5+ sexual partners (in the past year) fell, from 2002 to 2006-2010. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm

    I’d recommend perusing this online book too. It has many useful and pertinent statistics.
    Sorry for the long link, but you can just copy/paste it into your browser.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=QIRi8ZcI2BYC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=%22england%22+%22median%22+%22sexual+partners%22+health+survey+for+england&source=bl&ots=lpwAQpgJbv&sig=ITk4FSvXHHkVeycw60TxesSoyKE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LhiPVc_ZC8TToASz8YuQCg&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=chandra%2C%20mosher&f=false

    This is crudely seen in infection rates for chlamydia—the most common sexually transmitted disease. Hispanic Americans still show the traditional pattern of greater sexual activity among men than among women, the rates being 7.24% of men and 4.42% of women. White Americans display the reverse: 1.38% of men and 2.52% of women (Miller et al., 2004).

    The chlamydia rate for Hispanic-American men is actually lower than the rate for Hispanic-American Women. This pattern is actually visible in all races.

    http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats12/tables/11b.htm

  9. Here is some interesting data taken from England. It comes from the National Chlamydia Screening Program, which is a STI-screening program coordinated by the NHS. The sample size is over 400,000. The participants are in the 15-24 age range.

    Of all the ethnic groups, “Asian Subcontinent” (ie South Asians from India/Pakistan/Bangladesh) men have the lowest chlamydia positivity rate. Interestingly, South Asian women have a significantly higher positivity rate than the men. The gap between South Asian men and South Asian women is larger than the gender gap for whites. This seems to indicate that a fraction of English South Asian women are pursuing a hypergamous mating strategy, while South Asian men are being squeezed out of the mating market.

    Data taken from the OKCupid dating site found that Indian men have the lowest response rate from women, while White men have the highest response rate from women. Even Indian women give same-race men a low response rate, while giving white men a high response rate. So there seems to a pattern of Indian/South-Asian men being squeezed out of the mating market, while Indian women pursue a hypergamous mating strategy.

    • 同意: Aft
  10. Anon • 免责声明 说:

    With tons of black African men with big penises and strong muscles invading Europe and with EU’s incessant race-mixing propaganda that fetishize black men as super-studs, things may get much worse for Western and Central European men.

  11. Anon • 免责声明 说:

    “So more and more young men are being left on the shelf, particularly in White America. How do they cope? Mostly by turning to porn from Internet websites, videocassettes, or magazines. Love dolls are another option and may grow in popularity as they become more human-like, not only physically but also in their ability to talk and interact.”

    Doesn’t porn push interracial black-on-white humping? It is sure to demoralize white men more and make white women even more eager for black men.
    我认为 Love Dolls 比其他任何东西都更像是日本的东西,但是,日本人对技巧很着迷。 他们只是在这方面很愚蠢。

    “Another option is outmarriage. In the past, this trend largely concerned older men marrying East Asian or Hispanic women, but we’re now seeing plenty of young men outmarrying via Internet dating sites.”

    真的吗? 我几乎从未听说过这个。

    “Then there’s gender reassignment, which means either entering the other side of the mate market or tapping into the lesbian market. It’s a viable strategy, all the more so because many white boys can be turned into hot trans women.”

    尽管布鲁斯·凯特琳·詹纳 (Bruce Caitlyn Jenner) 无论如何,在统计上都微不足道。

    • 回复: @M. Hartley
    , @Rdm
  12. Anon • 免责声明 说:

    “It’s hard to avoid concluding that a lot of young white men are shut out of the marriage market.”

    我认为白人男性的主要解决方案是现实文化、成熟文化和生活文化。

    我认为太多的流行文化、电子游戏等等,让太多的年轻男性缺乏现实感。 他们需要重新变得真实。 这是欧洲和日本以及美国的问题。
    缺乏现实感导致文化不成熟。 所以,太多的男人穿得像个男孩子。 我看到中年男人仍然穿着和行为像青少年。
    And then, there’s the culture of life that favors human relationships over all the distractions on TV, movies, videogames, internet, and etc.

    另一件事。 人们需要文化组织和社会团体。 教堂是最好的婚介场所之一,因为人们聚集在一起敬拜上帝、相互认识、相爱和结婚。

    It is better for men and women to meet socially and then fall in love romantically. Looking for SEX outright is the wrong approach. It’s better to get together for shared interests and convictions. Like the Amish though they take it too far. And Mormons too.

    因此,白人需要创建吸引男性和女性的文化组织。 通过这样的组织,他们可以见面,甚至交配。

    关注可能导致性关系的社会关系。

    Too much focus in on ‘getting it on’. Too direct, too blunt, and too crude.

    寻求应对性挑战的文化解决方案。

    当前的文化对男性的敏感性和行为具有破坏性。 不正视现实、适当成熟的男孩不是男人。

    愚蠢、幼稚和纹身盛行。

  13. Truth 说:

    While I’m all for people procreating within their racial groups, if you’re a white male of even moderate stature and attractiveness there is no shortage of attractive, available asian females.

    Are you, or aren’t you?

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
    , @iffen
  14. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:

    Are men turning to porn because they can’t find women or are they giving up on finding women cuz they turned to porn?

    鸡还是鸡蛋?

  15. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:
    @Truth

    Truth, why you be so unsatisfied with the sistaz? Why you not wanna be with someone who look like yo mama?

    • 回复: @Truth
  16. @Priss Factor

    This is actually a really good question and one that should be studied.

    Most men tend to take the path of least resistance. When I was in 17, porn was not easy to get. The local Wawa market was pretty stringent about not selling skin mags to minors. But even if I’d gotten one, I’d have been shamed to high heaven (not to mention punished) had my folks found it. Not worth the trouble. And cable TV, with its “late night adult films,” might have been in some homes, but it wasn’t in ours.

    I heard about all this naked stuff, but didn’t get to see much of it. The only way I could was to actually date girls and, eventually, get their clothes off. So that’s what I did.

    But I wonder if I’d have dated so enthusiastically if I’d come of age today when porn is a few mouse clicks away? From what I’m hearing, boys much younger than 17 are already seeing x-rated things I didn’t even know about till much later — and covering their tracks better than anyone from my era could have.

  17. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    This article starts out claiming that being young, male, and single sucks… then went on to merely assume that it sucks because so many men aren’t marrying women. But never addressed is that while this might suck for society, it only sucks for the individual men if they want to get married.

    More and more single men are staying that way because they have rationally decided that to marry in today’s society is foolish. They look at the women today and simply don’t want to marry them.

  18. Tom_R 说:

    年轻的白人女性严重短缺——移民的另一场悲剧。

    感谢先生的精彩文章。 我很高兴你提出这个问题,因为这是一个非常严重的问题,很多优秀的年轻白人男性都找不到像样的年轻白人女性。

    根据我的估计和经验,18-30 岁的单身白人女性至少会被 5-10 名男性追赶!

    是的,我知道这是事实。 我和几个女人谈过,她们的日历上满是接下来几个月的约会,都是不同的男人! 你最早可以和她约会的时间是 3 个月后,假设她每个周末都和不同的男人出去!

    我发现这些单身白人女性中的每一个都有近 5-10 个男人在追她们,想和她们一起出去。 当我估计这些数字时,这一点得到了证实。

    以下是我的计算:

    对于这个 100-18 岁年龄段的每 30 名白人女性,有:

    该年龄段的 105 名白人男性;
    下一个更高年龄组(105-30 岁)的 40 名白人男性,正在寻找更年轻的女性,尽管已婚,但仍然在寻找更年轻的女孩;
    105 位年龄较大的白人男性(40-50 岁),正在寻找年轻女性,虽然已婚,但仍然在寻找更年轻的女孩;
    20 名黑人男子试图在他们的年龄组中找到一个白人女孩;
    20 名年龄较大的黑人男性(30-40 岁)试图得到一个年轻的白人女孩;
    20 名年龄较大(40-50 岁)的黑人男性试图找一个年轻的白人女孩;
    近 20 名亚洲人都想找一个白人女孩; 40 岁以上的年龄组;
    将近 20 名墨西哥人都想找一个白人女孩; 40 岁以上的年龄组。

    总计:480 名男性追逐 100 名单身白人女性。

    问题的根本原因,就像你说的,白人停止生育和移民。 大多数移民往往是来自第三世界国家的男性,主要是为了寻找白人女孩。 这是大多数移民的第一目标——来美国找一个白人女孩。

    我不认为游戏是一个好的解决方案。 大学里的大部分酒吧都是靠墙站着的男人,盯着每一个走进来的女孩,往往伴随着一个或几个男人。 即使没有目标,也无法进行游戏。

    但有一个解决方案——那就是禁止移民并驱逐所有非法移民。

    相信我,说服自由派男性站起来并努力禁止移民的最好方法之一就是向他们展示上述数字,让他们意识到移民是他们找不到女孩的原因。

  19. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Cpluskx

    The genetic architecture of intelligence has been difficult to unravel and likely involves thousands of genetic loci of mostly small effect. Genetic engineering that can work reliably at that many loci without producing unwanted mutations is not so close at hand but may reach us eventually. But AI might reduce the demand. If even enhanced people wouldn’t be intelligent enough to compete with the machines, what’s the point of the enhancement?

  20. rod1963 说:
    @Anon

    Wise observation.

    Yes, young men need to stop buying into modern culture(calling it that is a stretch, it’s really just a nasty mix created by Madison Avenue and Hollywood) because it’s empty and results in atomized people that are mal-adjusted who belong to nothing(historian Carroll Quigley noticed this happening back in the 1970’s). This guarantees a lot of men won’t find mates or meaningful relationships because they lack the socialization and interpersonal skills for it. To put it bluntly they’re feral.

    “The current culture is destructive of male sensibility and behavior. Boys who fail to face up to reality and mature properly are not men. ”

    非常真实。

  21. duderino 说:

    Controversial thought of the day: Nerdy white men marrying black women in mass would lift neighborhoods out of poverty, and cure the loneliness of both groups.

    And my experience is that the majority of working class black women are very open to that. It’s the white guys that are holding out for something more to their taste.

  22. “Then there’s gender reassignment, which means either entering the other side of the mate market or tapping into the lesbian market. It’s a viable strategy, all the more so because many white boys can be turned into hot trans women.”

    Or if they are worried about turning into gangly males with unattractive facial features they might consider taking low doses of feminising hormones in their late teens to help them look more like Ryan Gosling.

  23. Rifleman 说:

    At present, there are more White American women outmarrying than White American men, particularly in younger age groups. This disparity is mainly in marriages with African American men,

    The marriage fixation is outdated and inappropriate. Black males don’t tend to marry anybody.

    What matters is sex, co-habitation, dating, birthrates etc. Much of which nowadays happens outside of marriage. Why confine the analysis of trends to only “within marriage”?

    It’s hard to avoid concluding that a lot of young white men are shut out of the marriage market … or any kind of heterosexual relationship.

    Check out this Taki article on one White extremist:

    http://takimag.com/article/aryan_psycho_killers_and_me_david_cole#axzz3eL3SmKUz

    Aryan Psycho Killers and Me

    通过大卫科尔

    ”“Aryan warrior” Jonathan Haynes

    …I find it ironic that I’m forced to read Semites to develop an anti-Semitic position. Gentiles, sometimes they’re not accurate as…uh, well…I’VE GOT A RIGHT TO LIVE! Let me get to the point. I see a lot of black men going out with white women. I see movies like Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner and I see who’s behind it, and it doesn’t make me comfortable. Uh, uh, uh, uh, I look at the people who’s producing that type of movie in Hollywood. Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner, Jungle Fever, etcetera, ad nauseam, and I meditate on my own position. I DON’T THINK I’M A WORTHLESS PERSON! I DON’T THINK I DON’T DESERVE A WIFE. I THINK I’M A WORTHWHILE PERSON AND I THINK I DO DESERVE A WIFE! And if I can’t get a wife, I’m gonna get angry and I’M GONNA LOOK FOR THE CAUSE OF WHY I CAN’T GET A WIFE. Why all these white women are going out with black men, I’m gonna look at the cause and I’m gonna try to eliminate them.””

  24. @Anonymous

    But all the data says married men are a lot happier than unmarried, and that young men still want to marry. It’s the reluctance of young women with college educations* to marry that is the primary driver. Men in their 20s are not pushing away hordes of graduate girls eager to marry them.

    *Non-college rural white women in the USA still seem keen to get pregnant and get married, and it’s true that young men are reluctant to marry these women, because the men can get sex without marriage, and the women would be a financial burden.

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
  25. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:

    “Exit strategies. So more and more young men are being left on the shelf, particularly in White America. How do they cope?”

    Exit strategies or Entrance opportunities?

    难道这些替代选择是导致白人男性与白人女性结婚的白人女性减少的原因,而不是结果?

    And let’s not forget the fatso factor among white women.

    Another factor is change in attitude. Rap culture makes girls rude and trashy.
    Casual culture makes them vulgar and crude.
    Off-putting. But then, many millennial men are punks or twerps.

  26. // @ Anon:
    actually this marrying out phenomena is huge in Europe, at least in Germany. In a typical western german cities around 50% of the children have non-german mothers. Of those children with german mothers I would say that around 10% have westafrican fathers (but never ethiopians, somalians etc.)

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  27. One should note that the situation is much worse for Asian men in western countries (for reasons of physical attractiveness) and for asian men in asian countries (for reasons of high expectation regarding financial success)

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
    , @Anonymous
  28. @Erik Sieven

    实际上,印度/南亚男性在性市场上的表现最为糟糕。

    在所有种族中,印度男性在 OKCupid 约会网站上的回复率最低。

    Another study found that when white females were asked which races they’d date and not date, Indian men were the most excluded.

    见链接:

    印度裔美国男性与美国白人女性的通婚率也低于东亚裔美国男性:

    见链接: http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml

    在加拿大,南亚人(即印度人/巴基斯坦人)的通婚率也低于其他亚裔族群。

    见链接:

    British South Asian men also have a lower chlamydia positivity rate than British Chinese men. Since chlamydia is sexually transmitted, lower positivity indicates fewer sexual partners. It’s also interesting to note that British South Asian women had a much higher chlamydia positivity rate than South Asian men, which suggests that South Asian women pursue a hypergamous mating strategy while South Asian men get squeezed out of the mating market.

    见链接:

    I also found statistics that indicates that British South Asian men cohabited with White British women at a much lower rate than British Chinese men. I’ll have to find the link again to that study.

    与中国相比,印度的男性性别比例更偏向于男性。

    见链接: http://www.indexmundi.com/india/sex_ratio.html
    见链接: http://www.indexmundi.com/china/sex_ratio.html

    • 回复: @animalogic
  29. @Simon in London

    As a British resident, wouldn’t you say that Indian/Pakistani men are the most highly disadvantaged in the sexual market? Lots of them get squeezed out, while a fair number of their women date white men secretly. Of course, Indian/Pak women then go on to marry Indian/Pak men after having dated inter racially for years.

    我认为整个恋童癖性美容流行的部分原因是这些男人中的许多人被挤出了英国性市场。

    As to the question of physical attractiveness, this study from New Zealand found that Indian men have a lower lean mass and higher fat mass than Chinese men and European men.

    https://aut.researchgateway.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10292/385/WenJ.pdf?sequence=4&isAllowed=y

    Go to page 63. This study was done on residents of New Zealand.

    Indians in NZ have much lower lean (Fat Free) mass than Europeans, Chinese, Pacific Islanders, and Maoris in NZ. They also have much a higher body fat percentage. That implies that Indians would be less attractive, since muscle and low fat is an attractive physique (while little muscle and fatness is not).

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Simon in London
  30. Renoman 说:

    What about the Fat and Ugly factor? There are a horrendous amount of young Women that are absolute beasts that I can’t imagine anyone wanting to have sex with. I don’t know what is gone wrong with the gene pool but we are raising some real monsters.

    • 同意: RadicalCenter
    • 回复: @Anonymous
  31. There was a lot of food for thought in this article and the comments. I have three observations.

    1. We are probably twenty years or less away from the legalization of polygamy (polyamory) in the U.S. by Supreme Court fiat. This may not make a dramatic difference in beta male sexual exclusion/starvation by coralling even more nubile females in alpha-male harems, but it sure won’t help.

    2. Will beta male rampage ever become a major societal disruptor? It’s hard not to see some form of sexual frustration in the actions of some spree shooters or the Germanwings pilot. Granted, all these men had significant psychiatric problems, but I think these rampages would have been less likely if they had been married with children. Beta males could, if they chose to do so, create considerable havoc in a supra-industrial society. (The Germanwings pilot actually didn’t have to fly the plane into the ground, he just set the autopilot to do so.) Imagine sexually frustrated betas shutting down the power grid randomly. Or hacking into government computers and blocking electronic transfers to EBT cards–an inner city could explode in the 72 hours it might take to correct the hacking (“Who’s gonna feed dese babees!) Or what about blocking (even temporarily) the desposits of Social Security funds into retirees’ accounts, or Medicare reimbursements into hospital or physician’s accounts?

    3. In the alternative, the beta males might simply “Go John Galt,” and withdraw their services. Let the racial and sexual preference hires manage nuclear power plants and the air traffic control system. What could possibly go wrong?

    Perhaps the revenge of the (beta) nerds will not take such dramatic forms. But leaving large numbers of technologically competent men sexually and emotionally starved runs the risk that they will exact a terrible vengeance.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
    , @RadicalCenter
  32. Stealth 说:
    @duderino

    我的经验是,大多数工人阶级的黑人女性对此非常开放。

    This is true. I never dated a black woman, but I know they’re more open to interracial dating than people think.

    • 回复: @Tom_R
    , @Jonathan Mason
    , @ssohara
  33. 5371 说:
    @duderino

    I doubt whether your suggestion will ever be implemented in reality, but it would make for an amusing sitcom.

  34. jay-w 说:

    社会处理年轻男性过剩的传统方式是通过战争。

    There is no real reason to think that basic human nature has changed very much in the last 70 years — Steven Pinker notwithstanding.

    And when you look at Middle Eastern and African pre-teenaged boys doing bayonet practice and learning to field-strip AK-47s while Western boys are punished for pointing fingers at each other and saying “Bang,” the long-term outlook is not encouraging for the West.

    • 回复: @Chuck
    , @Patricus
  35. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:
    @Erik Sieven

    “Of those children with german mothers I would say that around 10% have westafrican fathers (but never ethiopians, somalians etc.)”

    资源?

  36. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    “We are probably twenty years or less away from the legalization of polygamy (polyamory) in the U.S. by Supreme Court fiat.”

    It depends on power.

    There isn’t much power behind polygamy and incest marriage.

    • 回复: @Diversity Heretic
  37. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:
    @duderino

    拿破仑炸药

  38. anon • 免责声明 说:

    One factor left out is mass immigration especially illegal immigration which is very heavily skewed by age and gender.

    Obviously illegal immigrants are going to be near the back of the queue in terms of dating but they provide the demand for ultra cheap and therefore generally forced prostitution which soaks up most of the white girls in white minority areas.

    Whenever this issue comes up for discussion, there are often reassurances that the disparity will disappear in a post-racial world that has been cleansed of “White privilege.” I’m not so sure.

    You’re right; it’s completely untrue. It might work out that way in some versions of reality but in the currently existing one it doesn’t take into account the *广阔的* amounts of anti-white violence especially sexual violence in integrated areas. In terms of rape it’s white first, 3/4 white or east Asian second, half-white or south Asian third and then continuing by shade. I don’t know why it is but it is.

    (Plus the darker skinned girls get mad and attack the lighter skinned ones as well which makes it worse.)

    I knew areas where there are gangs 300 strong and the girls coming up in those areas have *不* choice in who is the father of their first baby. They might get to choose which gang member is the father but it has to be a gang member.

    The truth is so bad if the media ever told the truth no-one would believe it.

    So on top of the other factors, forced integration and the gang culture and violence that ensures as a result primarily over access to females has a dramatic effect at least at some social levels. Young men aren’t necessarily competing as individuals in those environments but as gangs with winner take all.

  39. A_Guy 说:

    Nice to see a article like this outside the normal channels. There is an area on the interwebz known as the Manosphere … a loose connection of men and blogs who discuss such things. And the problem is far larger than described in the article. It is known as “The Thirst”

    The problem as noted is there are far far far fewer women who are desirable to men who want nothing more than what most men want. A loving wife and someone to be a mother to his children. Given huge levels of Obesity in Women, lack of morals, out and out just plain slutish/whorish behavior, huge over valuing of oneself (women), and hypergamy … this leads tp very few women getting all the attention from men. In response, women get choosier and choosier. And Feminism have ruined women such that the things the value in men are actually horrible. Rather than have a decent man with good values; they choose Tall, tatted out assholes, pschopaths really, bad-boys who have no redeeming value for society.

    情况比这里显示的要糟糕得多。 从本质上讲,我们社会中只有 10% 的男人不再发生性行为,其中大约 20% 的男人符合新的搞砸标准,还有一些已经结婚很长时间的男人(在游戏陷入困境之前就加入了游戏)。 这里的文章描述了 80 多岁的年轻人,是的,其中大约 90-XNUMX% 的前景基本上为零。 他们将无法与女性发生性关系。 根据现行规则:他们永远无法接触女性。 他们被完全排除在市场之外。

    What many men are doing is what is called MGTOW – essentially dropping out and refusing to engage with women at all. No wives. No girlfriends. No children. Its essentially its a big F-U middle finger to society. “You don’t want us … well go F*** YOURSELF”. This is not what men really want of course. And things may change … especially if the current DIVORCE-RAPE laws change. Or if women change. Neither of which is likely.

    The issue is, if that is now your lifestyle … well, if I don’t have a family to support I don’t need much of a job/career now do I ? Education ? Skills ? Reputation. Participation in society, etc. Hell, I can live in mom’s basement, smoke weed, and play video games and have a much better life … than playing in the Rate Race in a game that I cannot and will not ever win. Men have made a logical choice: if the rules are such that I can’t win … then I won’t play. I’ll just act like a teenager forever …

    那么当有足够多的人拒绝比赛并退出时会发生什么? 嗯,这已经讨论了很长时间了。 参见:悲惨的泡沫

    http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

  40. JSM 说:
    @JayMan

    ……如果处于底层的男性被排除在伴侣市场之外,这也许并不是一件坏事。

    If things are bad now, pity the young White boys in thirty years. He’s smart enough because his dad is smart, but there are even fewer young White, smart women available to him, because the few smart women that exist don’t marry until they’re too old to reproduce.

    此外,昔日那个聪明的、孤独的、聪明的、孤独的家伙本可以安顿下来的智商稍低的白人女孩将变得更加罕见,因为那些不存在的女孩的低智商母亲已经与智商更低的人天生远交了非白人男性。 因此,足够聪明的年轻白人小伙必须选择的是混血女孩,这些女孩甚至比过去愚蠢的金发女郎还要愚蠢。

    如果这些母亲不与黑人通婚,而是嫁给低平均水平的白人男性,人口群体的回归平均会给我们提供 100 智商的白人女性,供那些足够聪明的男性使用。

    哎呀。 从太空时代到 100 年的白痴。

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Negrolphin Pool
  41. BAPPY 说:

    At the risk of being harsh, I have to point out that this is exactly why Peter Frost and to some extent Sailer have been called the “cuckold HBD” crowd. This article contains many half-truths and some outright lies. For example, if you actually check the relevant figure, which is children born to white mothers where the father is not white, the figure for children with “hispanic” fathers and white mothers is close to 6% and the figure with black fathers is about half that much. So if Frost wanted to focus on the problem of racial sexual competition he would mention this figure, which in fact he distorts, leaving the reader to think that the majority of the 11-20% is because of interracial mating with blacks. In fact the bulk of that 11% is with “hispanics,” which you have to put in quotation marks because my bet is that the vast majority of those are South American Spaniards and not 4’7 mestizo cholos. The figure in fact for children born to white mothers with black fathers is around 3%. I don’t know about the “undeclared” figure of around 9% but there’s no reason to assume most of those are black either.

    This is par for the course, as Frost has denied in the past, for example, that there is an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency among Western populations worldwide, when there is a lot of evidence for such deficiency. But there is a pattern to his denials or distortions, which is that all of thse fuel different aspects of his cuckold fantasy; so because of this article and because of his general take on things I’d put my money on it, that he watches interracial porn and has fantasies about white male feminization, which he discusses above as if it is a real problem or “strategy,” rather than a statistical blip that is mostly the practice of a certain kind of homosexual.

    One thing he doesn’t discuss at all is the problem of female obesity in the West (and the likely fact that many if not most white females who breed with or marry blacks are obese and/or aged). To any reader of heartiste or similar blogs, and any observer of day to day life in the USA, this problem of white female obesity and in general white female undesirability (disagreeableness, bitchiness, sloppiness in dress, etc.) would seem to be a much bigger problem for young single white men, but of course Frost doesn’t mention this. Why? Because white female desirability is central to his cuckold fetish, without which it would whither. Note that he compares American women to East European women, which is absurd.

    Finally you should know that I don’t say these things about Frost (or Sailer) just because of this article, but because of their general, and ahistorical, take on the history of Western civilization (a more appropriate name than “white,” which was never a self-identifier except in the colonies). You can see this nonsense in the last paragraphs where he complains about “Don Juans” (as if Italian culture is not even more central to Western history and culture than NW Euro), and where he has this image of “shy” beta workalike NW Euros who “built civilization.” This is garbage, as civilization was built by alphas, not betas. This is a longer discussion, but Frost and Sailer are indeed beta IT-type guys or nerdoids who see themselves and their type as foundational to Western culture, when in fact they are another symptom of its decline. Conservatives in the 19th century were already complaining about how culture was decaying because the democratic age gave dominion to the meek shopkeeper and the calculating bourgeois. We’ve forgotten this and foolishly identify “white civilization” precisely with the meek shopkeeper. But it was not always this way, and the Viking and Finn were not seen as anything like “beta” even quite recently.

    The point is this, that if Western society is indeed “beta” then it deserves to fail, and it WILL fail. The right to rule doesn’t and shouldn’t belong to accountants, shopkeepers, programmers, and timid calculators…and never did.

    • 回复: @Diversity Heretic
    , @Koy
  42. Biff 说:

    Ideally, this gender imbalance should be dealt with at the societal level,

    Just to make things worse?

  43. Tom_R 说:
    @Stealth

    SOLUTION TO SHORTAGE OF WHITE WOMEN DUE TO MAL-CEGENATION

    The second related cause of the serious shortage of young available white women for marriage for white men is mal-cegenation (that you called out-marriage). With many white women falling prey to black men (and other darker races and immigrants) and dating or marrying them or having children with them, leaves a lot fewer women for whites to marry.

    For a white man, to marry a black woman is NOT a good choice (as one commentator suggests). Does that mean white men should pick up the ugliest class of women that even black men rejected? Mal-cegenation is not a solution to mal-cegenation.

    Single white men who cannot find a decent white girl to marry instead must focus on these solutions and become active in solving the root cause:

    a. Work on Banning Immigration—never vote for Democrats or an alienist. Become politically active in this issue. Join numberusa.com. Put bumper stickers promoting banning immigration.

    b. Speaking out against mal-cegenation and educate white sisters that going out with blacks or other darker races is wrong and dangerous and despicable.

    This can be done by setting up web sites showing statistics that blacks have lower IQ, higher rates of HIV and other STD’s, are more violent and more promiscuous. Show white women that by going out with blacks, they are “dating down”. Does a good looking girl want to go with a low IQ crook or a criminal? A low IQ son who will be killing his neighbors or her relatives? Post news stories of white women who were raped and/or murdered by their black/brown boy-friends. It used to be that white women who went out with blacks or browns were considered sluts. In fact, most black and brown men consider white women who go out with their brethren as sluts! Society needs to be more outspoken about calling such women sluts. Slut shaming of such white women would help reverse the tide. Expose the role of Jewish (Hollywood and corporate) propaganda in brainwashing white women into dating down and descent into depravity.

  44. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “As a British resident, wouldn’t you say that Indian/Pakistani men are the most highly disadvantaged in the sexual market?”

    They just need to go easy on the curry.

  45. JSM 说:
    @duderino

    也许黑人天才女性(其中不仅仅是天才黑人男性)应该从像朱迪福斯特这样的女同性恋者的剧本中学习一页,并从天才白人男性的精子库中人工授精。

    那个受过大学教育的黑人天才女性可能会成为单身母亲,无论如何,如果她甚至成为母亲,因为少数聪明的黑人男性通常更喜欢白人女性(可能是出于对优生学的潜意识渴望)他自己的孩子)。

    Since that Black gifted woman is gifted, that means she has an ability to think of the future. She should know, her son, being the product of an artificial insemination by a genius White father, so being smart and somewhat-Black, would be very attractive to young, single, college-educated Black women younger than he. That guy would have a veritable cornucopia of women to choose from. And, since he’s part-Black, should have at least some innate desire for Black women.

    • 回复: @duderino
    , @anonymous
  46. @BAPPY

    Would you classify Thomas Alva Edison or George Westinghouse or Harvey Firestone or Charles Goodyear as alphas or betas? I read a biography of the Wright Brothers that speculated that it was quite likely that they died virgins, and yet there was no evidence of homosexuality. Personally i’d rather have a society of these men than a society of Napoleon Bonapartes.

    • 回复: @njguy73
  47. @Priss Factor

    Well, I hope you’re right. Steve Sailer had some speculation on how the media might develop sympathy for polygamous relationships (Mormons need not apply), but Muslim agitation for cultural respect is certainly one possible avenue. Another would be hippie-style communal living (“We all love each other so much and we just want the law to recognize that.) The Defense of Marriage Act was signed about 20 years ago and look at where we are today.

  48. anon • 免责声明 说:

    the likely fact that many if not most white females who breed with or marry blacks are obese and/or aged).

    It may be a question of disproportionate noticing but I’d say they are mostly too young (and thus slim at the time). Cads always target very young girls because they are easier to lie to.

    Those girls do tend to get fat later on as they have no reason not to as they have no husband or any prospect of one.

    this problem of white female obesity and in general white female undesirability

    if there is demand over supply then women don’t have to try as hard so things like obesity would be a symptom not the cause.

    some people just always want to blame white people generally for problems caused by excessive immigration especially disproportionately young male blue collar immigration.

    As a British resident, wouldn’t you say that Indian/Pakistani men are the most highly disadvantaged in the sexual market?

    In the marriage market not at all – cos arranged marriages with cousins in India/Pakistan.

    Also those groups which have a doctor/lawyer culture do okay separate from that for practical reasons.

    Sexual market maybe – except in those areas where the dominant gang is from their ethnic group – which will generally only mean blue collar populations.

  49. BAPPY 说:

    I have no opinion on those men other than that they shouldn’t rule a society, but should do science and receive the honors of a scientist. They will always be in the minority anyway, so it’s a non-point. They are in any case the very rare exception. The common run of beta is the bureaucrat, the shopkeeper, the accountant, the timid man who calculates and lives in fear. Such men have never been attractive to women, and have only become predominant in the West with the rise of universal suffrage and democratic politics/industrial society in the 19th century. This is the ultimate cause of Western decline and no, I don’t want a society where such types are the ruling faction or constituency in any way. From this comes feminism and Western decline in all its manifestations. And you see this if you read 19th C conservatives and right wingers who understood the problem back then. Your average French aristo or Prussian junker was not “beta” by any measure. And it is European aristocracy, not the democratic man, that is the builder and founder of Western civilization. The shopkeeper and merchant has value but should be subordinate, just like the serf should be subordinate. A society ruled by the descendants of shopkeepers, clerks, and serfs will be degenerate.

    我认为 Hernan Cortes 是典型的西方创始人,他不是测试版,也不是他的任何骑士。

    • 回复: @SFG
    , @anonymous
  50. Gutenberg 说:
    @Anonymous

    White women my age (I’m 27) are largely unappealing to me because they are terribly dull. They’ve so devoted to their careers that they have very little interest in high culture or traditional feminine arts, the things which make life pleasant and charming. To get involved with such a person always feels like a dreadful burden to no point- they always want to complain about their jobs, still expect me to pay for dates, etc. the idea of a sexual division of labor is not there.

  51. anon • 免责声明 说:
    @jamie B.

    Could someone please explain what “game” is?

    male version of 1980s feminism

    aka divide and rule

  52. duderino 说:
    @JSM

    I’ve had that thought about white sperm doners too. I don’t see many people openly advocating it since its logic is tied in with genetic real talk for which society isn’t ready. Any significant influx of light skinned blacks would dominate the mating market. It’s an awkward conversation for blacks but most prefer light skinned or what they call “red-boned” women, and to a lesser extent, men. My theory is that lighter skin shows more honest signals of youth (and fertility) than dark skin, which is slow to age.

  53. njguy73 说:
    @Diversity Heretic

    You can’t have a society of just alphas or just betas. I mean, neither is feasible. No one can be alpha without beta followers. The question is, how do we create a society which allows for maximum harmony between people of different types.

    • 回复: @SFG
  54. A_Guy 说:

    Diversity Heretic: You are full of shit. The same criticism of others apply to yourself. You obviously think you are some sort of mega Alpha so think Alphas created civilization. Know you created civilization dumb shit … BETAS DID.

    I usually try analogies with the ignorant … so here Diversity AHOLE is a an analogy hopefully even you can understand: An American Football team. There are a only limited number of men who can be true Alphas … estimated at about 10% of the male population. On an American Football team there is 1 and only 1 quarterback. There are 11 players on Offense so 1 out of 11 is approximately 10%.

    Know who gets the GLORY when a football team wins ? Yeah ahole the quarterback. Know who really makes a football team successful. The other 10 BETAS on offense and the 11 BETAS on defense.

    Apply that society and civilization. Alphas LEAD and actually create pretty much nothing. Usually what they do is STEAL from the efforts of BETAS who create EVERYTHING of VALUE. Most Alphas are pretty much mentally ill with egos off the charts … as your comments so proudly display. And for your knowledge, not like you’d care. Most BETAs do not “Envy” Alphas … we actually fucking hate you. That is why there are periodic PURGES of Alphas.

    Which really summarizes the state of our society right now. What we, as the massive base of population, the 90% of men who are being shut out … we need another French Revolution to take all the Liberal Socialists Progressive Elitist Fucktards out of their Glass Houses and “Off with the heads !!!!” them. That my friends would solve everything wrong with Western Society.

    • 回复: @Diversity Heretic
  55. Immigrant from former USSR [又称“佛罗里达居民”] 说:
    @duderino

    Being the father of 3 kids (and 2 grand-kids) and being rather old,
    I never tried and never thought about sperm donation by myself.
    But to the best of my understanding of law practice in USA,
    the biological father of the donor-conceived child, if found,
    can be sought for child support, in spite of all prior arrangements.
    是这样吗 ?

    • 回复: @duderino
  56. Marian 说:

    Not sure I buy into young men losing the gal to someone’s daddy. It strikes me as a sign of feminist society. How many of these single men are on psych meds, that were forced on them since childhood by some hag of child psychologist? Then you have the modern white princess phenomenon, where feminism meets spoiled rotten. It seems like those girls end up with black men or women due to white young male rejection. Seems like pure bred whites might be headed for extinction, but isn’t that a good thing?

  57. A_Guy 说:

    One follow up on the Football analogy and Diversity A-Hole’s “My dick is so big that makes me an Alpha and Alphas’ created everything so that makes me top dog” attitude. It is also typical of Football Quarterbacks. Even QBs on shitty teams.

    What these psychopaths don’t realize is that essentially NONE of their success is actually do to them; they are playing a role just like BETAS. A QB needs a BETA to hike them the ball. And a running back to hand it off to. And blockers to keep him safe. Or a wide receiver to throw the ball too who can catch it a make a play. And a whole host of defenders to keep the other team from scoring, so they even have a chance to win.

    And even worse, QBs for the most part are just running plays … CALLED BY THE COACH. They are just a cog in the machine but think they are above it and they deserve all the credit. Its why by most measures ALPHAS would be considered Narcissistic, Egotistical, or just plain Insane for ignoring whats really going on.

    The real downer for BETA men is that woman are hugely attracted to ALPHAS like this; most BETAS believe its because women see the true NATURE of ALPHAS and how fucked up they are … and see that in themselves. Yeah, Women look at ALPHAS and see screwed up individuals who fail to see logic, reason and basic cause/effect. Women look at Alphas and seen themselves. Entitled, Spoiled, Cunts … accountable to no one and taking credit for stuff they had nothing to do with.

  58. @JohnnyWalker123

    >>As a British resident, wouldn’t you say that Indian/Pakistani men are the most highly disadvantaged in the sexual market? Lots of them get squeezed out, while a fair number of their women date white men secretly. Of course, Indian/Pak women then go on to marry Indian/Pak men after having dated inter racially for years.

    I think the whole pedophile sexual grooming epidemic is partly due to many of these men being squeezed out of the British sexual market.<<

    They are able to marry their illiterate, non-English-speaking first cousin brought in from Pakistan. But they want the white girls they see on TV, hence the grooming/rape gangs.

    Middle-class South Asian women who live away from home do date white men, probably preferentially. Lower class Muslim ones are often required to marry their illiterate, non-English-speaking first cousin brought in from Pakistan.

    But your analysis seems essentially correct for non-Muslim south Asians and probably for middle-class Muslims; eg a friend of mine from Northern Ireland is married to a Hindu woman and they have two children.

    I'd say that some women do find east-Asian men attractive; I know a family with Chinese father, Irish mother, and four extremely lovely mixed-race daughters. 😀
    Conversely very few women of any race find south-Asian men attractive unless they are so high caste they're basically white Aryans. But south Asian men may have access to arranged marriages, east-Asian men don't.

  59. duderino 说:
    @Immigrant from former USSR

    It varies by state. A rule of thumb, however, is that an anonymous donor will never pay child support. In most states, you are specifically excluded from paying.

  60. Re black/white dating – in the video to “If I Were A Boy”, the Beyonce character fantasises about cheating on her black husband with a white cop, a fairly good looking working class Germanic type. It was ‘ok’ because it was just a fantasy, and in the video’s real-world it turns out her husband is likely cheating on her with a rather plain Hispanic female. I was very struck by this because it seemed to be expressing some truths that are too un-PC to state openly.

    1. Black women do fancy white men. In particular it is the slimmer, more attractive, more intelligent and in the USA often ‘high-yellow’ black women who are most attracted to white men, not those without other prospects.

    2. 黑人男性当然喜欢白人女性。 但奇怪的是,看到一些非常英俊、健谈的黑人男子自豪地炫耀他病态肥胖和丑陋的白人女友。 黑人似乎将白人视为绝对高于一切。

    Most of the kids at my son’s school seem to be half-black, and are brought to school by their white mothers. It’s definitely the standard occurrence. But the highest-Sexual Market Value black women are looking for white husbands, while the black men are reproducing with any white woman they can get.

    • 回复: @duderino
    , @anonymous
  61. Maj. Kong 说:
    @duderino

    拥有多个学位的 .gov 工作中的黑人女性经常未婚,身体健康,并且想要一个类似的黑人男性。 他们的生育率最低。

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db50.pdf

    但是黑人越富有,他们就越胖。 (我不知道这是为什么)。 对于黑人女性来说,情况正好相反。

    因此,单身的白人欧米茄将被迫与肥胖的可怜黑人女性交配。

    我猜数字在这里击败了实体。

    • 回复: @duderino
    , @RadicalCenter
  62. Priss Factor [又名“普里斯工厂”] 说:

    What if they begin to clone the ‘perfect woman’ for every man and a ‘perfect man’ for every woman? (Hopefully not a ‘perfect man’ for every homo.)

    Will it be like Bride of Frankenstein?

  63. duderino 说:
    @jamie B.

    Its basically the skill of sexual self promotion and dating logistics.

    例如:

    Alternating between meanly teasing a girl and the occasional compliment to rile her emotions and create mystery.

    玩得很辛苦。

    Using a commanding voice and confident body language to “look the part” of a guy who has options.

    Using the sociological concept of “social proof” to create the image of a ladies man and raise your perceived value as a mate.

    Knowing how to navigate complicated social situations, like having enough approval from her friends that you can get her to leave the club alone with you without drama.

  64. fish 说:
    @Truth

    Every time you post.

    If I had to guess though I would posit that you’re not the perpetually aggrieved black guy scoring with all the white women but some dowty middle aged cat lady who sees herself as down wit da cawz!

    • 回复: @Truth
  65. In order to assess this situation in a more realistic way one must somehow disentangle morbid obesity from age-bracketed ratios of single (available) men to single (available) women for each race. Many more women (20 or 30% ?) are simply grotesquely fat and are out of the romance/market pool for most men.
    This exacerbates the shortage of desirable women. It may also explain why there are seemingly more available (slim) asian women. Quite frankly, there are effectively three ‘genders’ 1) male, 2) female, and 3) morbidly obese. There are few pairings with gender category (3). On the other hand, many more men are marginalized and out of the marriage market due to 1) low intelligence, 2) physical disabilities, 3) drug addiction 4) legal problems and incarceration, 5) mental health issues, or are sequestered in the military on bases, ships, or overseas.

    Also, the shortage of marriageable women has been a constant of american history from colonial or frontier days till about WWI, when mass immigration ended for a while. On the other hand, Europe had the opposite problem: Too many women couldn’t find husbands for a variety of demographic reasons 1) war, 2) emigration, etc….. American women never had to try too hard to find a husband, which many explain the high incidence of obesity, ill-feminity, vulgar/un-cultured behavior so prevalent. This is a common observation among male AND FEMALE foreign visitors to the USA.

  66. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @JSM

    If it is having a eugenic effect, however, shouldn’t he be happy taking one for the team, so to speak?

    • 回复: @Negrolphin Pool
  67. Chuck 说:
    @jay-w

    We should bring back gladiatorial combat. Although wimpy betas flailing at each other might not be much of a spectacle.

    • 回复: @JSM
    , @njguy73
  68. @JayMan

    The author posits a frighteningly high birth rate of babies to white women sired by non white men.What do you think of this–any numbers IYHFO?

  69. duderino 说:
    @Simon in London

    Only thing I’d add to that black women of every physical quality and skin tone often like white men. There’s a certain type that find white men “corny” but its more of a personality thing. I’ve worked with lots of black women, and they flirt frequently and aggressively in ways white women don’t. Some were joking, some definitely weren’t.

    • 回复: @Maj. Kong
  70. JSM 说:

    I’ve had that thought about white sperm doners too. I don’t see many people openly advocating it since its logic is tied in with genetic real talk for which society isn’t ready

    同意。

    But, for my imagined case of the son resulting from a hypothetical HBD-aware college-educated single Black woman who, realizing all this herself, chose a vial from the Genius White Male Sperm Bank, can you IMAGINE the enormously immense pool of choices available to her son of “high-yella” girls? That guy would be genuinely smart and therefore insanely desirable to the Affirmative Action bestowers. He’d be employed in any high-paying career he chose. Good-looking, rich and Black? He’d have those girls chasing him down the street.

    You’d think gifted single Black women, who are smart, after all, would SEE this reproductive niche and exploit it. I’m amazed this isn’t 已经 a big social trend. Are they not so smart after all?

  71. JSM 说:
    @Chuck

    Although wimpy betas flailing at each other might not be much of a spectacle.

    Ah, come on, it’d be funny as hell.


  72. duderino 说:
    @Maj. Kong

    This is a bit counter intuitive if your not closely familiar with black culture, but obese black women very often have kids and aren’t penalized the same way fat white women are. Black men generally appreciate “thickness” to an extent other races don’t. Black men are also more willing to lower their standards for a quick lay since investing in fatherhood isn’t as much of a cultural standard.

    As you said, Black women who stay single are some of the highest quality ones. It can be said they’re holding out for a certain type of black man that rarely exists, but I’m implying many would be open to white men if only they reciprocated that openness.

    • 回复: @Maj. Kong
    , @Truth
  73. 然而,通常情况下,出嫁的是质量较低(并且可能智商较低)的白人女性。

    To be honest, that isn’t my impression.

    据记载,在过去的一个世纪里,有 10-25% 的男性未能生育。 假设这些是基因负担最重的男性(一个安全的假设),这对人口的健康可能是一件好事。

    Except it’s no longer the same package of psychological characteristics. In the past, men were handicapped in the marriage market if they had a bad reputation, had spent time in prison, acted aggressively, showed poor impulse control, were unwilling to plan for the future, and had already lived with several different women.

    Today, men are handicapped if they are shy, quiet, and lacking in “personality.” That’s a very different package, and excluding them from the gene pool will have very different consequences.

    不乏有吸引力的,可用的亚洲女性.

    Depends on where you live (there aren’t many in Quebec City). I guess it doesn’t bother your conscience that Asian men will be left without mates.

    我是否正确理解这一点,美国黑人的出生性别比(!)与白人不同? 我知道出生的男孩多于女孩,但对我来说这完全是新闻,不同的人口群体之间存在差异……这是什么原因?

    Yes, the sex ratio is lowest in people of sub-Saharan African origin and highest in East Asians. In Europeans, there seems to be an east-west cline, with the highest sex ratios being in Hungarians and Ukrainians. Some authors have suggested that a low sex ratio is an adaptive response to a high incidence of polygyny. Since polygyny creates a “wife shortage” it may be advantageous to give birth to daughters who can exploit this shortage.

    以下是一些有用的链接:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1993.95.2.02a00090/abstract

    http://www.jstor.org/stable/41466854?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    I actually wrote an article on the subject. If I get time, I’ll scan it and post it on Research Gate:

    弗罗斯特,P.(2001 年)。 一夫多妻和性别比例,生育控制百科全书,VL Bullough(编辑),圣巴巴拉(加利福尼亚州):ABC-CLIO,第 218-223 页。

    从 2002 年到 2007 年,男性和女性的异性伴侣人数中位数都有所下降。1970-1979 年女性队列的异性伴侣人数中位数略低于 4。对于同龄男性队列,中位数伴侣计数约为~6。

    You’re citing an older study where the data end in 2008 (as opposed to 2012 in the study I cited). Since the 1970-1979 cohort is still having sex, their lifetime number of partners is still increasing. This might explain the discrepancy between the two studies. I don’t know.

    主要的一点是,男人比女人更一夫多妻,而且这种行为在男人之间变化更大,即有些男人非常、非常一夫多妻。

    西班牙裔美国男性的衣原体感染率实际上低于西班牙裔美国女性的发生率。

    In the 2001-2002 study, the reverse was the case. It may be that sexual behavior changed in the Hispanic community between then and 2012, either through immigration or through internal cultural change. I don’t know.

    尽管布鲁斯·凯特琳·詹纳(Bruce Caitlyn Jenner)在统计上无关紧要

    We don’t have good statistics on the prevalence of transsexual individuals. In the past, it was estimated at 1 in 30,00o males and 1 in 100,000 females, but those figures are for surgery alone. “Pre-op” transsexuals are much more numerous, and some researchers suggest a total figure of 1 in 500 males.

    教堂是最好的婚介场所之一,因为人们聚集在一起敬拜上帝、相互认识、相爱和结婚。

    大多数主流教会很少有 20 到 40 岁的单身人士。 福音派教会做得更好,但男性在没有孩子的单身人士中占主导地位,比例通常为二比一。 个人观察,俄罗斯东正教教堂是唯一一个年轻人比例为一比一的教堂。 部分原因是俄罗斯年轻男性的死亡率较高,部分原因是离婚和单身母亲受到更多的污名化。

    I’m not sure I would advise young single men to convert to Orthodox Christianity, especially if they come from a Protestant background. For one thing, there’s the veneration of icons and other objects. For another, a church is not supposed to be a place to meet girls, although it can serve that function. If you join, you have to read the fine print and agree to the whole package.

    很久以前,我对加拿大联合教会做出了承诺。 我不再去,但我不能让自己转向另一个教堂。 在内心深处,我知道几乎所有的教会都感染了同样的意识形态。 俄罗斯东正教教堂感染较少,因为它被隔离在铁幕的另一边。

    书呆子白人男子大规模与黑人妇女结婚将使社区摆脱贫困

    You cannot lift a neighborhood out of poverty. To the best of my knowledge, poverty is not inherent to home building materials or the asphalt used for road construction. It’s inherent to human beings, specifically their life history, time orientation, and cognitive skills.

    难道这些替代选择是导致白人男性与白人女性结婚的白人女性减少的原因,而不是结果?

    I presume you’re talking about porn (the other ones postdate the marriage crunch). Porn can “purge the urge” but it does nothing to cure sexual loneliness. I know quite a few single men in their 20s and early 30s and all of them invest a lot of time and money in the quest to find a female partner. Some of them easily spend \$5,000 a year.

    我认为整个恋童癖性美容流行的部分原因是这些男人中的许多人被挤出了英国性市场。

    Most of the clients are married Pakistani men. As for the “lover boys,” they have no trouble getting girls. “Grooming” is seen as a job. This came out in a study of Moroccan lover boys in the Netherlands:

    “The men were sly and cunning and knew how to work selectively. They went for unstable girls with low self-esteem. ‘First you look at the girl. How smart is she? Because there are girls who are dangerous. They might go to the police or do something like that. It is better if they are on the stupid side. Really not much more than a body.’”

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10611-013-9436-z

    因此,如果弗罗斯特想要关注种族性竞争问题,他会提到这个数字,实际上他歪曲了这一数字,让读者认为 11-20% 中的大多数是因为与黑人的跨种族交配。 事实上,这 11% 中的大部分是“西班牙裔”,你必须把它们加引号,因为我敢打赌,其中绝大多数是南美西班牙人,而不是 4'7 的混血种。

    What you’re saying is largely true but irrelevant to my argument. I was arguing that because of outmarriage more women than men leave the population of young single White Americans, thus exacerbating the marriage crunch for young White American men. It’s irrelevant to my argument whether they marry Hispanic or African American men.

    How much are you willing to bet? I’m willing to bet any sum of money that the vast majority are not South Americans. The majority seem to be Mexican Americans, followed by Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominicans.

    你可以在他抱怨“唐璜”的最后一段中看到这种胡说八道(好像意大利文化在西方历史和文化中并不比西欧更重要),

    Wasn’t Don Juan Spanish?

    因为这篇文章,也因为他对事情的一般看法,我会把钱花在上面,他看跨种族色情片,并对白人男性女性化抱有幻想

    No, I don’t watch interracial porn. Until a few years ago, I didn’t even know what it was. As for white male feminization, I’m concerned about what I see happening. We’re creating a hyper-male culture that most normal males, especially whites and East Asians, cannot relate to. It bothers me when even parents begin to internalize this false notion of masculinity.

    Go to Russia. You’ll see young boys who take an interest in figure skating, opera, and ballet (yes, ballet). They have girlfriends and they grow up to be men. Here in North America, that would be inconceivable. You either learn to play “game” or you become an effeminate toy boy. I’m married so none of this directly concerns me, but it will concern when my children enter the marriage market, and the perverse sexual norms that my generation and the previous generation created.

  74. njguy73 说:
    @Chuck

    How about dueling? A case could be made that the invention of the handgun did more for beta males than anything. I’ve often wondered if dueling made society more civilized. In those days no matter how alpha you were, if you pissed off a beta, he could demand satisfaction.

    “Ten Paces” Thursdays at 9 on NBC?

  75. Priss Factor [又名“普里斯工厂”] 说:

    “Typically however, it’s the lower quality (and presumably lower-IQ) White women who marry out.”

    “To be honest, that isn’t my impression.”

    I think marrying out for white men is more likely at top and bottom than in the middle.

    Top women want the ‘best men’. They want power. So, they’ll go with any man as long as he’s famous, rich, successful, and/or influential.

    Bottom women will go with impulse, animal instinct, or security.

    Since blacks are stronger and often violent in integrated poor communities, poor white girls will usually see white guys pushed around by black guys. So, white girls go with black men and have their children. Also, rap music makes poor white fantasize about sex with black men.

    And poor white women in SW will often hook up with some Mexican-American because they have low expectations in life. If some guy named Gomez seems nice enough, she’ll go with him.

    I think middle class white women tend to go with middle class white men. They are not overly ambitious and they don’t have to worry so much about tough blacks or live with lots of Mexicans.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Simon in London
  76. Priss Factor [又名“普里斯工厂”] 说:

    “Churches are among the best match-making sites because people come together for God and worship, get to know one another, fall in love, and get married.”

    “大多数主流教会都很少有 20 到 40 岁的单身人士。 福音派教会做得更好,但男性在没有孩子的单身人士中占主导地位,比例通常为二比一。”

    我认为,在这一点上,大多数主流教会都是同性恋聚会场所。

    I think it depends on ethnicity. I’m not religious but I once visited a Mexican-American Pentecostal church(with an amigo), and it seemed to be matched in ratio of men and women.

    我认为认真的男人应该做的是提出商业理念或社会理念,为有共同兴趣的成熟男性和成熟女性创造共享空间。

    我们生活在一个类似后宗教时代的时代。

    这需要创造力,但这就是挑战。

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
  77. Maj. Kong 说:
    @duderino

    I’m uncertain if the female unmarried ‘talented tenth’ would ‘settle’ for a lower-than-middle class white beta/omega.

    It makes theoretical sense, and is a left-wing dream, but it doesn’t appear that much in reality.

  78. @A_Guy

    I think that your comment was really intended for BAPPY. The point of my post was to defend Beta males (and I readily admit it’s a form of -defense).

  79. CCR 说:
    @Anon

    “With tons of black African men with big penises and strong muscles invading Europe and with EU’s incessant race-mixing propaganda that fetishize black men as super-studs, things may get much worse for Western and Central European men.”

    Won’t they just gradually disappear (along with pure white women), to be replaced with mixed-race people?

  80. duderino 说:
    @Peter Frost

    然而,通常情况下,出嫁的是质量较低(并且可能智商较低)的白人女性。

    To be honest, that isn’t my impression

    I’d bet its much different in Canada than the American south. It’s also a bit of a semantics game if you are talking about marriage rather than just baby daddy/single mom pairings. In Canada it’s a sign of high openness for the female and the black mate is likely to have arrived for schooling and work. It’s a stereotype but the lower class black male/ druggy white female are a common pairing in the south.

  81. anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Since blacks are stronger and often violent in integrated poor communities, poor white girls will usually see white guys pushed around by black guys. So, white girls go with black men and have their children.

    Alternatively 300 young male refugees from one of the most ****ed up places in the world are housed in run down hotels in a particular neighborhood forming a kind of fortress base for the start of a tidal wave of gang and sexual violence with most of the victims being girls in the 11-16 age group which the local media, politicians, social workers, police all cover up for PC reasons followed by most of the parents of young children in the area moving away. The girls left behind finding out that the way to stop the sexual assaults is to have a black kid because once they’ve been “done” they are left alone.

    And then vermin in the media use the result as evidence of integration.

  82. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    A lot of these issues are on my mind in my present relationship. My girlfriend is white, and she has a cute face, and is intelligent, sweet and funny and doesn’t subscribe to feminist bullshit or other such nonsense. But, although she is not medically overweight I’m not really into her body. She has a big butt and big thighs. She goes to the gym regularly and doesn’t overeat much that I have seen so I think it is just her genetic build. I can only imagine what her lower half will look like when she’s 40, especially after having a few kids. Still the very slim, petite white girls around here have their choice of men even when they aren’t very smart. My girlfriend may be the best I can do but I have trouble seeing myself with such a balloon like ass.

  83. Wally [又名“ BobbyBeGood”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Tom_R

    “Most of the immigrants tend to be men and from 3rd world countries and are here mostly to find white girls.”

    我当然同意。

    But who would want a low IQ, third world male? A low IQ female, of course.

    So the question remains … why would any sharp white male want such a bottom feeding female, white or otherwise?

    Would any sharp male really want a Deborah or Shirley or who is pursuing a Jose, Abdul, or Ajamu?

    Be careful who you bed, it could be costly.

    • 回复: @Andrew E. Mathis
  84. Bill P 说:

    实际情况更糟。 一方面,没有孩子的单身人士的失衡更加严重。 这不是一个微不足道的因素,因为单身母亲仅在可以进行性关系的意义上是“单身”。 他们仍在从以前​​的关系中抚养后代,许多人对生更多的孩子不感兴趣。

    True. It’s not bad being a single guy with kids, provided you can spend time with them regularly. If favoritism of mothers in the US weren’t so prevalent and the laws that underlie this favoritism so draconian I’d expect a lot more men would be perfectly happy to be single fathers. It’s a pretty nice lifestyle if I do say so myself. Treated me right for a few years.

    As for the game thing, I think men’s looks are under appreciated by a lot of guys promoting game. As income equalizes and women gain superior economic status in youth compared to their male counterparts, being a fit, handsome guy makes a bigger difference than it used to, and it’s always helped for that matter.

    Sure, men are more visual, but the difference isn’t that stark. Women are now free to choose the “sexier” guys, and that leaves out most males. This is really on display in gender-equalist Scandinavia, where good looking men can clean up without trying.

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
  85. @Peter Frost

    This data from OkCupid shows that blacks (both male and female) are overwhelmingly penalized in the dating market:

    http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/

    I’m guessing it’s mostly lower quality white women who date outside of their race, with the exception of a few very open-minded SWPL type women.

    As far as the increasing feminization of men, I think Japanese men are way more advanced along those lines than men in North America or Europe. There is a whole culture of “kawaii men” in Japan who wear makeup to make themselves beautiful like women- and they are mostly heterosexual. These men can’t or won’t fulfill traditional male roles so they turn adopt female fashions. Most of these men aren’t autogynephile transsexuals, they just like the attention they get wearing makeup.

  86. @ priss factory
    unfortunately I have no source. It is my own estimate based in my observations.
    Also I want to add that it is not only, not even majority low class fat and ugly german women who have children with westafrican men. Those are often educated, successful women.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  87. SFG 说:
    @duderino

    One disadvantage I haven’t seen people mention is that dating a black woman if you’re white possibly opens you to violence from black men who resent you for stealing their women. It was why my parents told me not to.

  88. @ Simon in London:
    “Conversely very few women of any race find south-Asian men attractive unless they are so high caste they’re basically white Aryans. But south Asian men may have access to arranged marriages, east-Asian men don’t.”
    I think there is some attraction for darker skinned Indians in the West. The fascination for Indian men is similar to the fascination for (west)african men, it is like a more sophisticated version of the latter. The difference is of course that it is by far not as common. But it exists.
    Western women see in Indians as in Africans more lively persons. Instead of the fascination of the raw sexual attractivity of african men Indian men can count on the fascination for Tantra etc. Instead of the congos there are the Tablas.
    By the way at least in China arranged marriages are still quite common as far as I know. At least parents help a lot with finding a partner and are not shy to make introductions.

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
  89. @Wally

    But who would want a low IQ, third world male? A low IQ female, of course.

    And on what basis do you make the assumption that a man who immigrates to the United States from the developing world has a low IQ? I mean, what basis beyond your enormous racism.

    Be careful who you bed, it could be costly.

    Yes, lifelong celibacy would seem to be the answer. Why not share your secret?

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  90. IA 说:
    @Anon

    Depends on if they continue to subsidize bastardy.

  91. SFG 说:
    @BAPPY

    The French aristos, Prussian Junkers, and people like Cortes and his knights lived off a vast substrate of peasants or factory workers and clerks, depending on era. They were never more than 10% of the population or so. If those peasants, factory workers, and clerks acted alpha and started lounging around and trying to use game instead of working hard, we’d basically have…Africa. Germany in particular is beta in the sense that everyone works hard and does as they are told. They took on the whole world and almost won. Beta males produce an alpha society, alpha males produce a beta society. This is a paradox of humanity.

    此外,在科学真正开始发展之前,西方只是另一个封建社会。

    • 回复: @njguy73
    , @Pericles
  92. SFG 说:
    @njguy73

    Pretty much. One of the advantages of traditional sexual mores is that by discouraging soft polygyny, it left more women available for the beta males.

  93. “大多数主流教会都很少有 20 到 40 岁的单身人士。 福音派教会做得更好,但男性在没有孩子的单身人士中占主导地位,比例通常为二比一。”

    Priss 是正确的。

    我认为,在这一点上,大多数主流教会都是同性恋聚会场所。

    “Homo hangouts” may be a bit excessive.

    我观察到的是,如今高档的主流美国新教教堂通常在政治上得到纠正,这意味着反异性恋和女权主义的宣扬。

    • 回复: @RadicalCenter
  94. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Erik Sieven

    “城市里没有性生活:在日本做女性和外国人是什么感觉”

    http://www.vagabondish.com/female-foreign-japan/

    “星巴克可爱的咖啡师不会看我,骑自行车的商人从我身上碾过,每当我试图搭讪天气或问路时,大学生们都急忙从我身边低声道歉。 他们甚至不给我一天中的时间。 字面上地。

    “你必须有主见,”我的日本女朋友建议道。 “日本人很害羞,所以你必须迈出第一步。” 所以我对酒吧里和公共汽车上的男人们微笑。 我请求帮助阅读餐厅菜单和地铁标志。

    “你有什么书/饮料推荐吗?” 当我在书店里站在他们旁边或坐在他们旁边的高脚凳上时,这是我通常的路线。 但如果对方拒绝看你,“过来”的眼神或谈话开始就不起作用。 如果他们对上我的目光,那只是向我投来这种惊慌失措的眼神,就像我刚刚要求他们为我未出生的孩子做父亲一样。 我的老板是对的。 在日本做一个单身的西方女人很难。 但为什么?

    我转向互联网寻求建议,并惊讶地发现无日期的西方女人在外籍人士世界中是一个熟悉的角色,至少从孤独的单身女性在外籍人士论坛上发帖的分数来看是这样。

    但尽管这个问题似乎很普遍,但许多女性都避免谈论它。 可以理解的是,如果不对一个国家 XNUMX% 的人口进行过分概括或更糟的情况,就很难讨论这个话题,听起来像是种族主义者或憎恨男人的势利小人。

    然而,在外籍人士和日本人中普遍存在的理论是,日本男性实际上被西方女性所吸引,但又太害怕而无法采取任何行动。 亚洲的西方女性就像外籍人士的詹妮弗安妮斯顿。 他们坚强、独立、果断和直言不讳,从远处欣赏他们很有趣,但没有人会梦想与他们交谈。 西方女性是如此不同,如此陌生,她们几乎不合时宜。

    不过,对于他们携带 Y 染色体的外籍朋友来说,情况并非如此。 当女性外籍人士独自度过周六晚上,对着拉面碗哭泣时,男性同行则像拥有它一样从约会池中畅饮。 在某种程度上,他们做到了。

    如果您曾经访问过亚洲,您很可能会看到这个苍白、瘦削、头发油腻的白人男孩手牵手走路,穿着完美的迷你裙,穿着亚洲小妞。 这在世界其他任何地方都不会发生。 因为在其他任何地方,芭比最终都会和肯在一起,而不是他的失业、社交尴尬、收集武士刀的邻居凯文。 但在亚洲,约会规则无视所有逻辑或进化规律。 在亚洲,书呆子为王。”

    • 回复: @Expletive Deleted
  95. iffen 说:
    @Truth

    Don’t make me go get Twink.

    White people don’t equate Asians and Negroes.

    事情就是这样,克服它。

    • 回复: @Truth
    , @RadicalCenter
  96. @Lion of the Judah-sphere

    That chart shows that the most penalized are Indian men.

    This other study shows the same thing.

    As for Japanese, yes many of the men are effete. However, there are many macho Japanese guys who do MMA or sumo wrestle or act like playboys. If you look at the MMA tournaments and boxing world, there are a lot of Japanese men. Of course one could argue that those macho guys are a subset of a generally feminine population.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @anonymous
  97. J Yan 说:
    @Peter Frost

    We’re creating a hyper-male culture

    Yes, but the media reflects this more than it drives this. Even educated young people face an 经济 reality in which nothing is stable and no strong social institutions exist. They are released into the adult world like salmon spawn into a river: Is it any wonder what kind of mating behavior wins out?

  98. @Erik Sieven

    有区别。

    White women who go for Indian guys see them as spiritual and hippie-like (ie tablas, yoga, high-pitched accents, skinny bodies, curry).

    White women who go for black guys seem them as manly and brutish (sports, rap, gangs).

    Black men are hypermasculine, while Indian men are hyperfeminine.

    There’s only a tiny a niche out there for hyperfeminine guys, which is why 2nd generation Indian/Pakistani guys in the UK like to (不成功) emulate the tough Afro-Caribbean men.

    Black sexuality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm8PH4xAss

    Indian sexuality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO3orj2ExCM

  99. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    That chart shows that the most penalized are Indian men.

    This other study shows the same thing.

    How much of that is due to smell?

  100. njguy73 说:
    @SFG

    “Beta males produce an alpha society, alpha males produce a beta society.”

    You just might have made Whiskey’s head explode.

  101. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:

    Vito Corleone-ism is the only primer on manhood that males need.

  102. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I think this has a lot to do with modern women viewing some asian and ME cultures as retrograde.

    Most normal white people just don’t want to get mixed up in a muslim or hindu culture… it’s just too foreign, and too insular.

    I don’t think it means these people are viewed as ugly or unappealing as individuals.

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
  103. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:
    @Erik Sieven

    That is disgusting. Sick and venal.

    Kraut women have turned into filth.

  104. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you’re new at this. Completely, willfully, blindly ignorant to voluminous studies documenting group average IQ scores, time preferences, and impulse control. But them, why shouldn’t you be? This is the New America. Progress!

    • 回复: @Andrew E. Mathis
  105. whatever 说:
    @Peter Frost

    ”I’m concerned about what I see happening. We’re creating a hyper-male culture that most normal males, especially whites and East Asians, cannot relate to. It bothers me when even parents begin to internalize this false notion of masculinity.”

    Do you not think that american media and culture is more effeminate now than ever.? As a reaction to that a lot of young male dialogue in movies and in life have these “this isn’t gay” moments, also in other cultures being touchy with your pals in a friendly sort of way is ok, this doesn’t seem to be the case in america.

    You can only learn so much as an outsider looking in on a foreign culture so I could be wrong, but it seems that men feel they have to act this way increasingly because of the increased prominence of the feminine ( females and homosexuals).

  106. Truth 说:
    @fish

    Every time you post.

    Let me translate for you there, Sport:

    “Why you’ve never said anything about being “unsatisfied with tha sistaz”, Truth, I’m just a marginal dumbass who can’t read and got my ebonics from Fred Williamson movies.”

    看,没那么难。

  107. Truth 说:
    @duderino

    Black men are also more willing to lower their standards for a quick lay

    Dude I know, what white man would THINK of such a thing?!?!

    • 哈哈: RadicalCenter
  108. Truth 说:
    @Peter Frost

    Damn, I’m starting to like P. Frost. That Quebecois just dashed you guys like brown gravy on french fries.

  109. Truth 说:
    @iffen

    So you’re all good with Hideki Takaroshi bedding your daughter or your little sister?

    You don’t have kids, nevermind, substitute your mom, married or not ,and get back to me.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
    , @iffen
  110. @anonymous

    In the OKCupid dating study, Indian men received the lowest response rate too. Given that women judge an individual dating profile as a whole before giving a response to a man, it’d seem that at least Indians are being viewed as unappealing as individuals. As a group, they do poorly at dating. As individuals, they do poorly at dating.

    Also, white men (see the chart I posted above) had a much more positive inclination to Indian women than white women had towards Indian men, so I think culture is only one aspect as to why Indian men fare poorly – the main reason (in my view) is just a much lower level of male attractiveness.

    Indians/Pakistani men also have the lowest chlamydia postivity rate in the UK, of all ethnic groups. Indian/Pak women have roughly twice the postivity rate of their men, which tends to suggest that Indian/Pak women are engaging in hypergamy with white/black men and that Indian/Pak men are being squeezed out of the British sexual market. That’s an observation that Simon (a London-based poster) believes is accurate.

    If you’re curious, British Indian/Pak men have a chlamydia positivity rate that’s 0.53 standard deviations below that of White British men. In America, East Asian men have a postivity rate about 0.23 standard deviations below that of White American males. So as far as being disadvantaged goes on the mating market, chlamydia rates would tend to suggest that Indian/Paks are getting laid less than East Asian dudes.

    As to the question of who’s hot and who’s unappealing, this study from New Zealand found that Indian men have a lower lean mass and higher fat mass than Chinese men and European men.

    https://aut.researchgateway.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10292/385/WenJ.pdf?sequence=4&isAllowed=y

    Go to page 63. This study was done on residents of New Zealand (NZ).

    Indians in NZ have much lower lean (Fat Free) mass than Europeans, Chinese, Pacific Islanders, and Maoris in NZ. They also have much a higher body fat percentage. That implies that Indians would be less attractive, since muscle and low fat is an attractive physique (while little muscle and fatness is not). By the standards of what’s considered attractive for a man (lean and jacked), Indians do worse than both whites and East Asians. They do worse than blacks and Hispanics too, as both those groups have less fat mass and higher lean mass than Indians.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  111. @Peter Frost

    Yes, the sex ratio is lowest in people of sub-Saharan African origin and highest in East Asians. In Europeans, there seems to be an east-west cline, with the highest sex ratios being in Hungarians and Ukrainians. Some authors have suggested that a low sex ratio is an adaptive response to a high incidence of polygyny. Since polygyny creates a “wife shortage” it may be advantageous to give birth to daughters who can exploit this shortage.

    India has a worse sex ratio than China. Overall, it appears the sex ratios are more skewed among South Asians than East Asians.

    见链接: http://www.indexmundi.com/india/sex_ratio.html
    见链接: http://www.indexmundi.com/china/sex_ratio.html

    You’re citing an older study where the data end in 2008 (as opposed to 2012 in the study I cited). Since the 1970-1979 cohort is still having sex, their lifetime number of partners is still increasing. This might explain the discrepancy between the two studies. I don’t know.

    If you look at the CDC study again, you’ll see that males stop accruing significant numbers of sexual partners after the age of 30. After 30, the median number of sexual partners remains fairly constant across age-cohorts.

    So it seems implausible that 1970-1979 cohort could’ve gone from 6.3 median partners in 2008 to 8.8 partners in 2012. I have a feeling that in the study (cited by you), the authors confused median with mean. Obviously that’s not your fault, but I think the authors are in error.

    I checked the GSS data for the 1970-1979 male cohort. I looked at the number of female sexual partners (for males) in the 2006-2008 period and 2012 (for the same cohort). There was an increase in the median from 5.9 partners to 6.5 partners, but the increase is much smaller than the discrepancy between the CDC study and the study you cited.

    In the 2001-2002 study, the reverse was the case. It may be that sexual behavior changed in the Hispanic community between then and 2012, either through immigration or through internal cultural change. I don’t know.

    I looked up chlamydia rates (in the US) for each ethnicity, from the time period of 1996-2000. This data is from the CDC and shows chlamydia rates (per 100,000) for males and female of each ethnic group.

    http://postimg.org/image/yt9occaa1/

    As you can see, Hispanic women have a much higher chlamydia rate than Hispanic men. The same is true for Asian/PI women and Asian/PI men. So even back in the 1996-2000 time period, Hispanic women and Asian/PI women were more likely to have chlamydia than men of their respective ethnic groups. While Hispanics might be sexually more conservative than other ethnic groups, the data don’t indicate that.

    Do you have any data that demonstrate that men (of any ethnic group) used to have higher STI/STD rates than women in the past? It’d be interesting to see that, as it’d indicate different sexual mores back then.

    Most of the clients are married Pakistani men. As for the “lover boys,” they have no trouble getting girls. “Grooming” is seen as a job. This came out in a study of Moroccan lover boys in the Netherlands:

    A lot of the “married” Pakistani men are in loveless/sexless arranged marriages with their cousins from back home, which fuels their sexual frustration. While they may be legally in a union, sexually they’re in a drought.

    According to studies, Dutch-Moroccan men and Dutch-Turkish men have equal or higher rates of chlamydia than the native White Dutch, which implies they must have a relatively strong level of sexual success. So you’re correct that the Dutch “lover boys” don’t have trouble getting girls. However, British South Asian men have very low chlamydia rates (relative to the White British), which implies more difficulty in the mating market.

    I’d also suggest that the Turkish/Moroccan “Lover Boys” have different incentives than the Pakistani groomers. With the Pakistanis, they’re sexually satisfying themselves and filling demand in a local “ethnic” market. With the Turkish/Moroccan dudes, they make lots of money by selling these girls into Amsterdam’s Red Light District, which attracts “Johns” from all over the world.

    On a slightly related note, it seems that the a significant fraction of the pimped out “Dutch” girls are actually of immigrant/Muslim origin. Which is much different from the UK, in which the pimped girls are overwhelmingly white.

    见链接: http://4freedoms.com/group/children/forum/topics/lover-boys-grooming-pimping-activities-in-holland

    The Netherlands is both a destination and transit country for international trafficking in persons (TIP), mostly women and girls for the purpose of sexual exploitation, although some labor trafficking occurs. Trafficking victims are also “recruited” internally by so- called “lover boys,” primarily Moroccan or Turkish young men/boys living in the Netherlands, who seduce young, mostly immigrant girls into prostitution…

    The government and NGOs have initiated public information campaigns against young prostitutes and lover boys in the Netherlands..

    The victims of “lover boys” are mostly underage girls and young women of Moroccan and Turkish descent.

  112. @Lion of the Judah-sphere

    Thanks for linking to that Match.com dating/race chart. I’d read about it, but never actually seen it.

    Another much more crude way to assess men’s racial preferences when it comes to women is to look at ads for escorts and the like. White women charge more than women of other races — because they can.

  113. @Priss Factor

    “poor white girls will usually see white guys pushed around by black guys”

    Might be true in the USA, but in the UK that’s not why white girls go with black guys. In the UK the white working class guys generally are not scared of black guys, generally speaking there is not any significant intimidation* factor. The black guys get white girlfriends because they are 更迷人 than the whites – more outgoing, less reserved, quick to flatter. With less body fat they are also more likely to look ‘ripped’. And they are a lot less fussy about the appearance of the white girls; often a very good looking black man is happy to have an obese white woman.

    *Inter-racial conflict in the UK is more likely to be south-Asian-Muslim vs black-Christian. If whites participate it is likely to be on the side of the blacks. In my part of London there are Tamil Hindu gangs, Pakistani Muslim gangs, Somali gangs, and ‘normal’ gangs – normal here is a mix of black-Caribbean and mixed race (white mother black-Caribbean father). You can also get gangs combining mixed race + white (often Irish ancestry), and the Irish Travellers are different again. Some gangs are black-Caribbean + some mixed-race, without white male members, but it’s also very common to have gangs with mixed-race as the norm with some full-blooded whites and some full-blooded black-Caribbean members. So there are 2 sorts of gangs:

    1. Racial/ethnic based gangs, eg the Tamil, Pakistani or Somali gangs.
    2. Mixed-race gangs, on a continuum of black-mixed-white.

    Notably, the types only ever seem to fight each other – Tamils only fight rival Tamils, Pakistanis fight rival Pakistanis, #2 types fight rival #2 types. Tamils never ever fight Pakistanis, #2s don’t fight Somalis from what I’ve seen.

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  114. @JohnnyWalker123

    “Indian/Pak women are engaging in hypergamy with white/black men and that Indian/Pak men are being squeezed out of the British sexual market. That’s an observation that Simon (a London-based poster) believes is accurate.”

    I don’t see a lot of south-Asian women going with black men. They do definitely seek out higher-status white men (I get hit on a lot) 🙂 – they basically behave a lot like east-Asian women, though their average SMV (Sexual Market Value) is a bit lower than for NE Asian (Chinese/Korean/Japanese) women, but about the same as Philippinos. They want a moderately sexy guy who is reliable and has high social status. Unlike working class white women, south Asian women don’t want a stud who is unemployed/irregularly employed and who will soon leave them for the next conquest, so most black men aren’t very suitable.

  115. @Truth

    No daughter, but I would definitely be fine with someone called Hideki bedding my little sister if it involved her marrying and have kids with him. Being a typical high IQ (140+) white urban female though it looks as if she won’t be reproducing.

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  116. @Peter Frost

    Go to Russia. You’ll see young boys who take an interest in figure skating, opera, and ballet (yes, ballet). They have girlfriends and they grow up to be men. Here in North America, that would be inconceivable. You either learn to play “game” or you become an effeminate toy boy. I’m married so none of this directly concerns me, but it will concern when my children enter the marriage market, and the perverse sexual norms that my generation and the previous generation created.

    A lot of this is due to the fact that drama, dance, opera, etc. have become gay dominated here in the USA. As much as the social engineers try, heterosexual men still find (in particular the flamboyant ones) homosexuals perverse, and gross. Tolerance is not the same as acceptance. Hetero men and boys don’t want to be associated with such culture and will shun any activity associated with such.

    Now with the SCOTUS making gay marriage the law of the land, I expect the same will happen with weddings. If women thought it was hard to get a man to commit today to marriage with a big wedding, wait until weddings become big ‘gay’ events. Hetero men will shun weddings as much as they do ballet today.

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  117. iffen 说:
    @Truth

    I don’t know if you can’t understand or just have fun playing along.

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  118. iffen 说:
    @Simon in London

    You would choose Hideki over Truth. Be honest.

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  119. @Anonymous

    No, I’m not new at this. Your “voluminous studies” are flawed in a number of ways, but more to the point under discussion here, I am responding to BobbyBeGood’s assertion that non-white immigrants have lower IQ scores — this is demonstrably untrue and, not to put too fine a point on it, the subject of the very essay above.

  120. anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Simon in London

    Notably, the types only ever seem to fight each other – Tamils only fight rival Tamils, Pakistanis fight rival Pakistanis, #2 types fight rival #2 types. Tamils never ever fight Pakistanis, #2s don’t fight Somalis from what I’ve seen.

    There are regular pitched battles in Birmingham between Pakistani and Black gangs with hundreds on each side. The media simply doesn’t report it.

    It is more complicated in London because the ethnically cleansed working class areas are now ruled by hundreds of different ethnic gangs.

  121. This data from OkCupid shows that blacks (both male and female) are overwhelmingly penalized in the dating market

    Sexual success isn’t just a matter of being attractive. It’s also a matter of being persistent.

    Do you not think that american media and culture is more effeminate now than ever.?

    I see both tendencies among the young male subculture. The dominant tendency is to imitate a hypermasculine and even thuggish look and behavior. This is partly motivated by gay avoidance and partly by a desire to emulate African American men. The other tendency is to gravitate toward the LGBT subculture without necessarily being gay or transsexual. This seems to reflect recent changes within the LGBT community; lesbians in particular are becoming less anti-male and more bisexual and pansexual.

    A lot of young men cannot relate to the new standard of masculinity, which is increasingly thuggish, violent, and anti-intellectual. So where do they go?

    That Quebecois just dashed you guys like brown gravy on french fries.

    You mean they serve poutine in the Middle East? (or wherever you’re now stationed)

    India has a worse sex ratio than China

    Only in the patriarchal societies of northwestern India, and that’s due to female infanticide. The high sex ratio at birth in East Asia seems to be under genetic control.

    Do you have any data that demonstrate that men (of any ethnic group) used to have higher STI/STD rates than women in the past?

    I gave you the Miller et al. study, but you rejected it because it conflicts with the findings of another study. I suspect both studies are correct but concern different subgroups within the “Hispanic” category. As Ron Unz has shown with homicide statistics, there seems to be a big difference between Mexican Americans and Hispanics of Caribbean origin (Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans).

    A lot of the “married” Pakistani men are in loveless/sexless arranged marriages with their cousins from back home, which fuels their sexual frustration. While they may be legally in a union, sexually they’re in a drought.

    You have an idealized vision of marital bliss in Western marriages. I know an American researcher who concluded that a major cause of infertility is infrequency of sexual intercourse.

    I’m familiar with the literature on arranged marriages, and my impression is that such marriages are just as happy as Western marriages. Happiness in a marriage is largely determined by events after the first two years, particularly whether it produces children and whether the couple have strong supportive relationships with friends and relatives.

    However, British South Asian men have very low chlamydia rates (relative to the White British), which implies more difficulty in the mating market.

    Or it means their sexual partners aren’t promiscuous. A study on young Pakistani men in Bradford found that the “groomers” had Pakistani girlfriends/wives in addition to white girlfriends:

    “One example quoted to me is the men’s involvement in ‘discos, drink, drugs and white women’, while simultaneously putting pressure (to the point of harassment and threatened violence) on Pakistani women to stay at home and behave as ‘good’ Muslim women. Several young Pakistani women commented that the men ‘had to do this, hadn’t they? Because they can’t let us see what they’re really up to, can they?’.”

    Macey, M. (1999). Class, gender and religious influences on changing patterns of Pakistani Muslim male violence in Bradford, Ethnic and Racial Studies, 22, 5, 845-866
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/014198799329288#.VBOnH-kg_cs

    The victims of “lover boys” are mostly underage girls and young women of Moroccan and Turkish descent.

    That contradicts the study by Van San and Bovenkerk:

    “These policemen knew which girls were the victims of loverboys. They were young white girls who sat at the windows looking glum and obviously did not want to be there.”

    “Their tactics worked best with white Dutch girls. They had a lot more trouble with the daughters of immigrants, ‘because those families have respect for each other.’ In their view, this was not the case with Dutch girls: ‘Dutch girls really are the easiest.”

    “One pimp told us that it was not only easier to get Dutch girls into prostitution, but that they were worth less than other girls and therefore deserved to end up as prostitutes. ‘Culturally and religiously, a Dutch girl is little more than a pig to a loverboy. She’s nothing, she’s of no value. When that’s what you’re thinking, you can completely block out your emotions.’ As mentioned, most loverboys were reluctant to manipulate the daughters of immigrants into prostitution, especially when it came to girls leading a pious life. ‘We are obligated to treat Moroccan girls as we would treat our own sisters; we can’t treat them as rags. You can’t just make a Moroccan girl work for you. (…) Listen, when a Moroccan girl wants to do it, that’s different. But if she goes to school and wears a headscarf, it’s just not right’.”

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10611-013-9436-z

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    , @Truth
  122. Greenstalk 说:

    “An idea may be gleaned from statistics on children born to White American women, specifically the proportion fathered by a non-White partner. For the U.S. as a whole the proportion in 2013 was between 11% and 20% ”

    I suspect that this is one of those cases where Hispanic men get counted as non-white. (As opposed to when Hispanics commit crimes, in which case they are counted as “white” for official purposes)

  123. Pat Casey 说:

    I n a long review of a book called Girls Gone Mild, we find this passage from F. Roger Devlin:

    Consider, firstly, this passage from Shalit’s first book: “many etiquette books, in both England and America, stressed a woman’s prerogative to greet a man on the street first, particularly if he was not a close friend. If she chose to greet him, he was obligated to respond in kind, but if she passed him by, there was absolutely nothing he could do about it” (RM, p. 56).
    I do not mean to take issue with this rule of etiquette, which may well have a sensible rationale. My point is simply that its one-sidedness does not seem problematic or in need of explanation to Shalit. A man might at least ask whether there is some larger context which explains why, in this particular case, all rights should be with the woman and none with the man.

    Mr. Devlin is concerned to harp about women being uppity instead of noting that this simple etiquette is what the whole thing comes down to. He does not understand. When men are allowed to court women unbidden in public, women expect them to do so. But of course only the few with the most self-possessed instincts do so, or do so well, and suddenly the modest men look shy, awkward, weak, and people tend to come to reflect how others receive them, when really they are just masculine in the way that doesn’t know how to be extrovertedly playful off-the-cuff with girly females. Maybe Devlin didn’t know that because he is too used to the PUA Community’s bread and butter—sophisticated approaches and tried-and-true pickup lines. He really gave himself away right there, making a trifling point out of something paramount.

    To reiterate, Etiquette is a very important word that Devlin just runs over in his long essay on Peacocks and Snakes and Utopias, and for a fellow who is literally the only one among the self-styled Dark Enlightenment who can write with lucidity for long stretches with a level head, the act in which he ran over the particular word “etiquette” was really when the mask fell off, forcing any half-critical appraisal to judge him a fellow with something rotting in his spleen. The etiquette allotted the prerogative to the female to greet the male when they were out in public and accidentally passed each other—Devlin’s displeasure was this: that the woman he is writing about, rather in the manner of a man following someone actually, did not halt and think what the prerogative is doing with her, and not him, or the stock man in the street, who Devin does not actually stipulate to be as offended by said unquestioned etiquette that so speaks such volume to him about feminine nature; Devlin is darn close to screaming snake for such blithe disregard of self-examination, as though there’s an etiquette he’s trying to get at, but he is actually able to move on, in that erudite writing style of typing with clenched teeth, returning to long stretches of level-headed reiteration, punctuated more or less, occasionally, by that sort of near unhinging, maybe saved only by the need to stretch. That word etiquette really ought to be the most important word in F. Roger Devlin’s life, if he is the true believer he claims to be, yet to extract something so perfectly petty simply disappoints me. Common etiquette between the sexes today in this nation does not exist as far as I know, and that particular etiquette Devlin regards like he’s picking a scab would be the most welcome, for from what I can tell, his pick-up artists disciples are more than anything else trained how to approach women in public and give them a good greeting. How much better would be there lives if they were not allowed to do that? The mind boggles. But the really revealing aspect of this is that etiquette, formal or ad hoc, will always and only by the male be established and imposed. Because women do follow the lead of men, but certainly not the lead of men who write about women most interestedly in terms of animals repeatedly throughout an utterly redundant and over-read essay that should go to hell. The man is the style, enslaved to resentments insidiously, led by his psyche and self-deceiving of some principle over the white birthrate his tactic is to deliberately do his part not to statistically improve. Kudos to Peter Frost for affording me the opportunity to vent that smack.

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  124. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Peter Frost

    “This data from OkCupid shows that blacks (both male and female) are overwhelmingly penalized in the dating market.”

    There’s no reason this should be the case. There are plenty of black women available for black men.

    But black men don’t want black women. That is their fault.

    黑人男性想要其他女性。 他们认为自己的女人是肮脏和可怜的。

    Black male ‘racism’ against black females is the real problem in the black community.

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  125. Truth 说:
    @iffen

    Well it’s hard to understand when you don’t explain anything. It’s quite simple, you said that you’re “all for people procreating within their racial groups”… as opposed, I guess, the hundreds of millions of detractors of intra-racial relationships, all over the world.

    Then you go on to talk about how much you like Asian girls, the question is simple; do you want a bunch of rich Japs from Tokyo going over to Norway to knock up the diminishing number of Scandies over there, or don’t you? Does this make you feel comfortable.

    不复杂。

  126. Truth 说:
    @Peter Frost

    You mean they serve poutine in the Middle East? (or wherever you’re now stationed)

    No, but I’ve have a sister in Vermont, and I’ve been to Montreal many times, it always struck me as odd that such a gastronomically vibrant region would have such a bland food item as it’s totem. I guess there must be a story there.

  127. Fredrik 说:
    @Cpluskx

    Aren’t they supposed to marry down just like men do?

  128. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    I’m sorry this s!#t is not so hard. If you want to find a mate you will have to put some work into yourself in one form or another. As a male you cannot just throw a shingle up and say “Hay! I’m open for business.” The female investment in reproduction is far higher than males; this is just a fact of life. You will have to put time into self-confidence, appearance, and financial stability. This may offend some people but it is true! Women want a prince not a toad. So do yourself a favor and don’t be a toad!

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  129. 彼得说:
    It sucks being young, male, and single. Don’t think so? Go to the Interactive Singles Map of the United States and see how it looks for the 20 to 39 age group. Almost everywhere single men outnumber single women

    The pattern is correct, but that doesn’t mean it sucks being a single man. Opportunities for unfettered sex are at an all time high, and marriage is still a strong alternative. For one thing the pattern says nothing about males who by CHOICE remain single, or who have sown their wild oats and rather than marry, keep their single status while moving into the “baby daddy” category. And white men in that category still are sleeping around with several white women, who these days are more willing to give it up, without the “putting a ring on it.” Another factor is that there are a larger number of white “baby mamas” floating around, and this too may be deterring today’s young white dudes. Why get hooked into supporting someone else’s kids when you can “hit” all you want without any long term complications?

    .
    It’s hard to avoid concluding that a lot of young white men are shut out of the marriage market … or any kind of heterosexual relationship.

    There is some truth to this, but it is questionable whether they are shut out due to demogaphics to any significant extent. The flip side is that many of today’s young white men are CHOOSING NOT to get married. They have taken themselves out of the market and long term relationship sweepstakes, and it is very easy to do so these days. White societal pressure to marry has lessened considerably, and many white somen are increasingly sexually active, making sex as a reason for marriage increasingly irrelevant. The strength of abortion and feminism among white women also makes marriage increasingly irrelevant. Many white women are making excellent salaries, or if on the lower end, have also benefited from a recession that has been a lot easier on women than on men. Men aren’t needed so much as providers and white pregnancies can always be aborted, and are being aborted, as a matter of convenience. Who needs marriage anymore as in the past?

    Growing movements among whites to devalue traditional marriage- such as in “gay” marriage, have also undermined the institution, and growing numbers of homosexual men, helped along by increasing societal acceptance, also take many young white men out of the sweepsstakes. When all these factors are considered- young white men haven’t so much been shut out of the market as “OPTED OUT.”

    We have a mate market where 20 to 50 year old men are competing for 20 to 40 year old women.

    True enough but it is unclear whether they are having much overall success. On most dating sites, most women in the fertility bands still able to have children insist on men not more than 5 to 7 years older. Women aren’t beating down the doors for older men. Even women in their 40s are chasing men not more than 6-7-8 years old. There are exceptions, but this is the general pattern. See Christian Rudder’s studies at OK Cupid dating site. Furthermore when the sex ratio becomes more balanced at the later ages post 40, these older gals are also competing, and can see some success due to the age demands noted above. A 50-something man has a lot better chance of bedding a mid-40/late40s/50s woman than a 30-something woman. These are the blunt realities of the dating and marriage market.

    .
    At present, there are more White American women outmarrying than White American men, particularly in younger age groups.
    Again accurate, but the numbers overall remain minor. Black-white interracial marriages have increased but they are still LESS than 1% of all marriages- a trivial number overall, with little impact on the white population. White-Hispanic-Asian unionsa re more numerous but these have been slowing in recent years as more Asian and Hispanic immigration comes in. In short, intermarriage is not a significant factor as far as white demographics. There are other much more significant INTERNAL factors contributing to white demographic decline.

    .
    Despite the local supply of single women in the African American community, there is a much stronger tendency to look abroad, generally to women in Eastern Europe, South America, or East Asia.
    True enough, confirming the point above that interracial marriages will not be making any significant inroads as far as white demographics. Outmarrige to foreigners will remain minor for quite a time.

    .
    然后是性别重新分配,这意味着要么进入伴侣市场的另一端,要么进入女同性恋市场。 这是一个可行的策略,更重要的是,因为许多白人男孩可以变成热辣的跨性别女人。 我并不是说有些年轻人实际上是按照这些思路思考的,但性别重新分配正在发挥这种作用。

    I think this is an accurate forecast. The “transgendered thing” will increasingly absorb many eligible young white males, removing them from the white gene pool’s reproduction. Same for more young white males tuyring towards an increasingly acceptable homosexual lifestyle. On the other side, more young white women will likewise be sucked into the lesbian machinery.

    .
    男性害羞不是病态。 这是对社会环境的一种适应,这种社会环境重视一夫一妻制和高额的父亲投资,同时又污蔑性冒险主义。 我们对男性害羞的战争反映了我们建立唐·胡安斯(Don Juans)和单身母亲社会的错误愿望。
    One wonders if northern European societies, especially those in the much discussed hajnal/manorial zone will be able to reverse these trends. Southern Europeans seem to be better positioned to hold the line. In Italy for example it is quite common for 30-somethings to be living at home with “mama” and indeed- the Italian mamma is a strongly revered figure. The northern European sneering at “mamas boys” is to a large extent rejected in Italy. Likewise Italian society has been able, to a larger extent than in northern Europe, to hold the line against “gay” marriage, “transgenderism” etc etc. Even if such are legally on the books, the mass of Italian society still refuses to get on the “progressive” bandwagon. Religion, traditional Italian cultural conservatism, etc may be key factors. The laws an elites say one thing- the masses DO another. Maybe those Hanjal southerners are on to something.

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  130. I see both tendencies among the young male subculture. The dominant tendency is to imitate a hypermasculine and even thuggish look and behavior.

    In the past, American media used to glorify cowboys (John Wayne), rednecks (Burt Reynolds), macho action heroes (Schwarzennegar), mafioso (Al Pacino), boxers (Stallone), and a variety of other highly masculine men. Actually, even if you go back centuries, the cowboy/frontiersman was highly glamorized in the print media and story books. Glorification of violence and hyper-masculinity isn’t anything new. What’s changed is that America used to view white males as embodiments of toughness and strength, now they view blacks as ultra-masculine and whites as effeminate.

    America used to have a very rate of homicide in the old Western cities, so the glorification of cowboys is very much based on real life toughness. Just as black rappers grew up in the “street”, so too did white cowboy/frontier types. Before American culture became politically correct, little boys used to play “Cowboys and Indians.” On the east coast, it was common for Italian and Irish boys to brag about their gang or mafia “connections.”

    I gave you the Miller et al. study, but you rejected it because it conflicts with the findings of another study.

    I didn’t reject it, but I questioned it. I think you made a good observation about separating out Mexican-Americans from Caribbean Hispanics.
    That definitely seems plausible to me.

    I was curious if you had any studies that showed an STI reversal among whites. That’d be interesting to see.

    You have an idealized vision of marital bliss in Western marriages. I know an American researcher who concluded that a major cause of infertility is infrequency of sexual intercourse.

    I’m familiar with the literature on arranged marriages, and my impression is that such marriages are just as happy as Western marriages. Happiness in a marriage is largely determined by events after the first two years, particularly whether it produces children and whether the couple have strong supportive relationships with friends and relatives.

    The issue isn’t whether a marriage is arranged or not. The issue is that Pakistani-Mirpuris tend to arrange marriages with 表兄弟 from back home. It’s difficult to have any type of marital bliss when your wife is also your cousin. It’s an incestuous relationship. The situation is even worse than you’d think, as South Asians and Muslims often treat their cousins as sisters and see them often (close families). So a large percentage of UK men are marrying women they see as sisters, which is utterly disgusting.

    Also, the literature on arranged marriages often look at Indian marriages, which are overwhelmingly non-cousin marriages. Pakistani marriages involve close cousins from “back home.” So there’s an important distinction to be made.

    Another factor you need to consider is divorce, which is not permitted for Muslims. Maritally unhappy Americans divorce, Muslims do not.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351834/Grooming-girls-Asian-gangs-fuelled-unhappy-arranged-marriages-cousins-claims-Muslim-peer.html

    See this quote:

    A senior Muslim politician has blamed unhappy arranged marriages to cousins for leading some Asian men to prey on vulnerable young white girls to fulfil their sexual needs.
    Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, Britain’s first Muslim peer, is the first politician to make a link between first-cousin marriages and sex crimes by Asian men.
    He has spoken out after a spate of high-profile court cases where groups of Asian men have been sentenced for grooming white girls as young as 12 in Derby, Blackburn and Lord Ahmed’s home town of Rotherham.
    Speaking out: Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, Britain’s first Muslim peer, believes there is a link between first-cousin marriages and sex crimes by Asian men
    Speaking out: Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, Britain’s first Muslim peer, believes there is a link between first-cousin marriages and sex crimes by Asian men
    Lord Ahmed, who wants an end to cousin marriages, said: ‘They are forced into marriages and they are not happy. They are married to girls from overseas who they don’t have anything in common with, and they have children and a family.
    ‘But they are looking for fun in their sexual activities and seek out vulnerable girls.’
    He said Asian men resort to abusing young white girls because they do not want meaningful relationships with adult white women.
    ‘An adult woman – if you are having an affair – would want your time, money and for you to break up your marriage,’ the peer added.
    His comments come weeks after former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw provoked national outrage by saying that some Asian men look at white girls as ‘easy meat’ for sexual abuse.
    Labour peer Lord Ahmed said: ‘I get a lot of criticism from Asian people who ask, “How can you say this about Asian men?” But they must wake up and realise there is a problem.
    ‘I am deeply worried about this as it has happened in my own backyard, and in Rochdale and Bradford.
    ‘This didn’t happen in my or my father’s generation. This is happening among young Pakistanis. While I respect individual choice, I think the community needs to look at marriages in the UK rather than cousin marriages or economic marriages from abroad.’
    Studies have shown that 55 per cent of British Pakistanis marry their first cousins, usually from abroad. In Bradford, the figure is as high as 75 per cent.

    As you can see, Pakistanis are being forced into sexually unsatisfying marriages and are unable to get adult-age white women. So they get sexually squeezed out and go after the most vulnerable women – preteen, drug-addicted street kids from dysfunctional (often foster) families. They’ve hit “rock bottom” sexually and gone after 12 year-olds.

    I don’t know if you’ve ever watched MSNBC’s “To Catch a Predator” (an American show that uses fake pre-teen female decoys to lure male sexual predators into stings) , but the men arrested are typically the sexual loser “omega” types. If huge numbers of Pakistani men are getting caught up in these pedophile prostitution rings, my guess is that it’s because they’re sexual losers (and also sociopaths).

    Or it means their sexual partners aren’t promiscuous. A study on young Pakistani men in Bradford found that the “groomers” had Pakistani girlfriends/wives in addition to white girlfriends:

    The NHS data indicate that British South Asian women have a higher chlamydia positivity rate than British South Asian men. So it’d seem that given the gender disparity, South Asian women are pursuing a hypergamous mating strategy with non-South Asian men. There’s no other explanation for why South Asian men have a lower chlamydia rate than their women.

    You’re absolutely correct that Muslims often use intimidation to keep their women from engaging in premarital sexual activity, but violence often can only do so much. UK statistics show that young South Asian women have abortion rates similar to those of white women.

    That contradicts the study by Van San and Bovenkerk:

    One reason that they wouldn’t brag about pimping out Muslim girls is that such talk would invite scorn and contempt from their community. Also, Muslim girls would be scared of the shaming they’d receive if they came forward about having been groomed. Another factor to consider is that Muslim girls are less likely to be prostituted in public places, due to the risk of being seen by their community members.

    To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of the victims are White Dutch girls, as the Netherlands is 90% white. The point is that there’s certainly a possibility of there being a significant amount of Muslim-on-Muslim grooming, though that may be better hidden.

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  131. @iffen

    Yes, I’d expect so. However my sister would probably choose neither; brought up by a strict Protestant mother, she transgresses by choosing white Catholic guys (of any nationality) to hook up with. >:)

    • 回复: @iffen
    , @Truth
  132. @Simon in London

    那是个很好的观点。

    One difference between SA and EA women is that SAs may date white men and fetishize them, but they still often marry their own ethnicity. EA women are more likely to marry out.

    As for your observation about being hit on a lot, let me contribute an anecdote. I used to for a company with lots of British expat employees (mostly young men) and
    a lot of them told me that SA women liked to flirt with White British men and even date them, but often only when these girls were away from their communities. Even a lot of the married women would put on a prudish face in front of their community, but act surprisingly sexually aggressive when they were alone with a white British male.

    I recall one guy told me that back when he worked in as a physical therapist, his SA female clients would completely demure and unfriendly when he greeted them in the public waiting area (near the entrance) of the PT clinic. When he got them into his office, they’d let down the shield a lot and he often found it easy to get numbers from them (even the married women). Then as soon as he escorted them back to the waiting area, these women started acting demure again. His conclusion was that SA women were under a lot of community pressure to be “good girls”, but beneath the exterior a lot of them were not much different than White British females. While a lot of them were under community/family supervision much of the time, they adopted Western sexual norms when they away from the community.

    Also, my acquaintance mentioned that SA women expected to be financially pampered a lot and wanted any potential lover to drive a nice car. So I think your professional/financial success is definitely a factor in why you get a lot of SA female attention.

  133. @Pat Casey

    Pat Casey says:
    To reiterate, Etiquette is a very important word that Devlin just runs over in his long essay on Peacocks and Snakes and Utopias..

    Whatever the importance of etiquette he discusses it will make little difference in substantially addressing the problems Peter speaks about. It might help smooth the way for a few dates but then what? How does it solve the abortion problem contributing to white demographic decline? How does it solve the fact that women are doing better in education these days than men, or in some cases the workplace, or that the recession has been harder on men than on women?

    How does it begin to address the fact that the traditional male provider role has been weakened, or growing “alternative lifestyles” finding acceptance among young white men like homosexuality or transgenderism? All the etiquette in the world does not begin to get a handle on these trends. Guys who are making low end salaries are not favored by women looking to “marry up” even more so when women may be making equal or better money, with better education. More etiquette isn’t gonna change that. Better etiquette perhaps may perhaps be useful in getting a guy laid, but the negative long term demographic trends above will continue.

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  134. Pat Casey 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    I agree with your pessimism up to a point but not your reasoning. You are almost saying, how can something so micro as etiquette have macro consequences. Well because people live microscopically, on a personal level, not on the level of society-wide trends. All the etiquette in the world, as you say, and many more people would go about behaving traditionally, wisely, fruitfully, the only way they can behave, one opportunity at a time. Do you not find it stark raving mad that the only etiquette these days is don’t beat them up or rape them? Of course customs matter. And I was speaking to Devlin’s specific point that this era is one where white men and women increasingly seem to simply not want each other because they don’t like each other, personally. I agree completely with his reform ideas on divorce law. My gripe is that more than female nature, hypergamy, exemplary males are setting a bad example by being cheap immature cads, which Devlins devotees are judging by what I can see, big fans of. But there is not nothing but gloom and doom. You just have to know where the traditional people are.

    • 回复: @Enrique Cardova
  135. Koy 说:
    @BAPPY

    Yeah some good points in this comment, very Nietzsche! Forget game read Nietzsche. But yeah Professor Frost do you or do you not watch interracial porn? I only ask because a recent phenomenon I’ve come to notice in porn is white guys filming their wives with black men! This came to my attention after seeing a film by white guy explaining how to get your wife to sleep with a black man! Very odd IMO. but it does fit in with whole ‘I’m a dorky flabby white guy who can’t satisfy women like a real hunky animal’ cuckold fantasy theory.

    • 回复: @Sunshine
  136. KFoy 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Do a little digging, and you’ll find grooming and abuse of Pakistani girls within the community is a serious problem. But even more hushed up than the Asian grooming of white girls.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  137. iffen 说:
    @Simon in London

    What! Are you in London or Londonderry? You can’t be serious.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  138. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    What about giving them a knuckle sandwich instead?

  139. @KFoy

    Yes, young Pakistani girls do get abused, often by much older male relatives. It happens indoors or in cars – when I see an old Pashtun guy sitting in his car with a young Pashtun girl on his lap, I’m a bit suspicious, but there’s nothing obvious.

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
  140. @iffen

    My mother is from Londonderry, I’m Northern Irish; grew up near Belfast. My sister started seeing Irish Catholic guys as a teen, then in adulthood went European – Italian & German.

  141. @Pat Casey

    Do you not find it stark raving mad that the only etiquette these days is don’t beat them up or rape them? Of course customs matter.

    Yeah, well I remember when that book came out some years back called- “The Rules” – that there was talk of the return of etiquette, but most of the buzz and action based on the buzz seems to have vanished. Many people felt that so-called “Rules” seemed fake. Others defended them as a “return to sanity” in an era when the loss of old conventions, and expectations created an uncertain, unstable free for all dating/romance/marriage market.

    There is something to both sides. Rigidly and unrealistically applied it seemed some were using the “Rules” to pamper the egos of little “princesses.” There was and still is some resentment out there on the part of guys, who said in a way of speaking- “Why should I kowtow to your female “rules” like some extra in your movie? Hell these days I can hit the dating sites, chat rooms, strip clubs, today’s “willing” women, the Net, and other outlets to get what I want physically. Why should I invest all that energy in you, who ain’t as “hot” as you think you are?”

    But on the other side proponents pointed to the free for all out there, with many women more than willing to “put out” sexually, or expected to “put out.” And that both men and women were unsure of where the boundaries were. “The Rules” thing- which is really etiquette, alleviated some of the uncertainty and the pressure on both men and women. I think there is something to be said for this side of the equation too. Indeed as far as stable marriage material, most men do not want a girl who is known to flit from bed to bed, easily “putting out.”

    .
    And I was speaking to Devlin’s specific point that this era is one where white men and women increasingly seem to simply not want each other because they don’t like each other, personally.

    Indeed, and I think this is due in part to changed power relations and economic factors. Women are doing well comparatively speaking, in schools, and in the workplace, and in politics too. The recession has been easier on females. Men simply aren’t needed as in the traditional breadwinner/leader role of yesterday. Many of the young dudes I believe feel a sense of inadequacy. Here are all these females going to college for example and you got a dude with mediocre high school grades, on average, drifting and unsure of what he wants.

    Contrast with a determined, focused female. Companies are hiring them more, not guys. The old days when dudes could get a job down at the local factory and work there for 30 years, exiting with a good pension are long gone, and he associated jobs are long gone overseas. The Net has been part of the trend, and even “white collar” jobs now are being “outsourced.” Who needs travel agents anymore for example? Or customer service reps for certain jobs when you got Microsoft and Cisco certified guys working for \$5/hr equivalent overseas? Such factors weigh heavily.

    .
    My gripe is that more than female nature, hypergamy, exemplary males are setting a bad example by being cheap immature cads, which Devlins devotees are judging by what I can see, big fans of.

    The “cad” factor is part of the problem along with female hypergamy. Some females talk a good game about “the important things” but ain’t gonna give you the time of day unless you are making more money than them or have some sort of status higher than them. It is even worse these days because many females (didn’t say all) are doing relatively well- making good salaries, well educated. And on top of that more females these days are increasingly looks conscious. They want height, they want a fashionable, fit appearance and so on. Bubba with a few extra pounds down at the body shop need not apply. You see it on the dating sites all the time. Women have this long list of “deal breakers.”

    So many of the white young men these days have taken on a “slacker” approach, or a f-you “cad” approach, which only poisons already tainted ground between the white sexes. Hell, if the “cads” are getting so much attention because they talk a better game, why shouldn’t a regular dude also join their ranks, at some level? Hell, if everybody under 6 foot doesn’t get the time of day on such and such a dating site from the “decent looking women” why bother with that etiquette and rejection BS? Why not play it cynical and manipulative? After all, the better looking women seem to more reward those who do.

    For some the virtual world is as good as or better than the real world. The porn merchants are serving up every conceivable fantasy a few clicks away for free. Who needs to put up with the rejection BS, and feeling inadequate when the dude can tailor any alternative, or fantasy he desires with a few clicks in the virtual world? And if needed can mesh that to some extent with the physical world via today’s more widespread “put out” culture or efficient web-enabled prostitution?

    This is a main reason the PUA movement has caught on to the extent it has. Young men are withdrawing increasingly to these shorter-term alternatives. Now obviously this is not the whole picture, 100% everywhere, but you can see the pattern emerging in what Peter shows above.

    Now to add to all the above, pile on the growing homosexual and transsexual alternatives into the mix, and again young white men today are under significant pressure to NOT go the traditional marriage route. Indeed, the traditionally promiscuous “gay” lifestyle, especially among men, will have some impact on the institution of marriage- along with all the other impacts people have warned about. Bottom line- the institution is further devalued and weakened.

    .
    But there is not nothing but gloom and doom. You just have to know where the traditional people are.
    There is grounds for pessimism. All the above bodes ill for reversing white demographic decline. If people want to reverse white decline it is imperative that traditional institutions as marriage be stabilized, strengthened and maintain their prestige. Unfortunately the trend is going in the opposite direction. I would agree there is some ground for optimism in certain circumstances. But how do you find the traditional people?

    The best way is to build decentralized grassroots networks under a formula with a track record for moral revitalization, that can attract support across numerous communities. One of the best ways to do this is with grassroots religion, organized around a strong core message. This does not mean a central headquarters somewhere- the key is a grassroots network. This structure allows for plenty of diversity in non-essentials, including doctrine, but unity in core, “bottom line” essentials. Central headquarters can be hijacked or co-opted, and the mass brought into line like lemmings.

    For such grassroots networks to function effectively men need to step up to the plate and assume leadership. Again, religion has already built centuries long precedence for male leadership, which is another reason it is a credible vehicle. It is not the only vehicle, but it is one where a lot of the SOP has already been worked out- the wheel does not have to be reinvented.

    Italy offers an example of grassroots resistance. Strong family networks have staunchly resisted many excesses of “progressivism” including “gay” marriage. The elites may impose certain laws ON PAPER, but the grassroots can actually control the ground, and in turn, influence policies and events at higher levels. On an individual level, such networks of course are where the more traditional people are found.

    • 回复: @Pat Casey
    , @Truth
  142. Truth 说:
    @Simon in London

    Your sister “hooks up?” That’s bad.

    Tell her she should date a nice young man until marriage, or at least for 3 months before giving up the goods.

    A man will never buy the cow….

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  143. Priss Factor [又名“ Priss Factory”] 说:

    “The European female phenotype seems to be very popular, and this was so even when white folks were geopolitical weaklings. Today, the term “white slavery” is merely a synonym for prostitution, but it originally meant the enslavement of fair-skinned women for sale to clients in North Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia.”

    Because racial purity is always equated with the sordid history of Nazi radical racism, people overlook the fact that interracism has often been the product of conquest, rape, slavery, oppression, and exploitation.

    How did the Mestizo come into being? Imperialism and rape.

    How did Central Asia come into being? Mongol rape and plunder of the white race.

    If anything, in many cases anti-miscegenation laws protected the native conquered people from sexually predatory acts of the conquering peoples.

    Also, conquering people often used race-mixing to perpetuate their rule. Mix the races, and then the conquered people may become confused in identity and not resist.

    That is why whites ruled Latin America for so long. Mestizos don’t know what they are.

    • 回复: @Enrique Cardova
  144. Priss Factor [又名“普里斯工厂”] 说:

    There are two sides to race-mixing.

    The side that is emphasized is the acceptance of another race.

    That sounds oh-so-positive.

    But there is also the side that REJECTS one’s own race, often consciously as inferior.

    So, interracism is racist. Black men find black women to be inferior, and increasing number of white women find white men to be inferior to black men.
    They are weaned from cradle on rap music, black-dominated sports, and jungle fever talk with friends. As high schools integrate, more white high school girls will play cheerleader for black athletes.

    And PC beats up on the White Male constantly. There is no pride attached to being a white male unless he is a homo, but then, being a homo means he is not interested in white women.

    Imagine that. Only a white fruitcake or a white guy who cuts off his penis is worthy of pride in our PC order.

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
  145. Priss Factor [AKA "Sylia Stingray"] 说:
    @hell_is_like_newark

    [It’s not proper behavior to duplicate your very long comments on more than one post. A very short intro plus a link to your other comment is the right approach.]

    “Now with the SCOTUS making gay marriage the law of the land, I expect the same will happen with weddings. If women thought it was hard to get a man to commit today to marriage with a big wedding, wait until weddings become big ‘gay’ events. Hetero men will shun weddings as much as they do ballet today.”

    [更多]

    This is why decent folks need to come up with a new cultural definition and practice of marriage.

    I say marriage should be rejected altogether, at least morally and culturally. Its meaning has been desecrated and defiled. I say let ‘marriage’ mean ‘gay marriage’.
    Let the homos have it. If a filthy man puts his hand all over your donut, just let him have it.

    The meaning of marriage now should be: An institution that once used to unite man and woman in matrimony now degraded into celebration of filth by the decadent West dominated by Jews and their main allies, the homos.

    Marriage has been corrupted and defiled. It is worthless.

    For decent folks, it still has legal force, but it should have zero cultural meaning.

    So, what are decent folks to do?

    Come up with a CULTURAL terminology and definition of the true bio-moral union of man and woman.

    Suppose we call this ‘Concordia’. Concordia will be culturally and morally defined by decent folks as bio-moral union of a real man and a real woman. (No trannies allowed).) Since it will be unambiguously defined this way, it can never be corrupted by homos and their backers.

    As for the ceremony of Concordia, suppose we name it ‘symphonia’. Symphonia can only bless the union of man and woman in Concordia since it will be strictly defined as a rite in the service of Concordia and only Concordia. So, even though bakers are forced to make ‘gay wedding cakes’, they cannot be forced to make ‘gay symphonia cakes’ since symphonia will culturally be defined as the bio-moral union of man and woman. Symphonia cakes and services can only serve those involved with symphonia. It’s like a Rabbi cannot be forced to preside over a Christian celebration. Rabbi is, by definition, a man who serves Jewish matters. He is under no cultural or spiritual obligation to serve other religions.

    ‘Gay symphonia’ would be like ‘Nazi Jew’ or ‘Communist Objectivist’. Just can’t happen.

    Now, Concordia and Symphonia, as cultural institutions, would have no legal binding. But that is the beauty of it. It cannot be messed with the supreme court or whatever since it is a cultural reality and cultural institution and cultural movement.
    And since they’d be specifically defined and designed to serve the union of man and woman, homos and trannies can never undermine it.

    It’s like Christmas is a cultural tradition and reality that honors the birth of Jesus. Therefore, Buddhists cannot demand a Buddhist Christmas, demanding that Christmas celebrate Buddha as well as Jesus.

    Jews who didn’t care for Christmas made a big thing of Hannukah.

    Blacks who didn’t care for Christmas came up with Kwanzaa.

    Decent folks who no longer care for marriage(desecrated and defiled) and wedding(now celebrating fruity garbage) should come up with something like Concordia and Symphonia.

    Since the meaning of ‘marriage’ and ‘wedding’ has been defiled by PC, it is time for a cultural revival of the bio-moral union of man and woman.
    As far as we are concerned, ‘marriage’ now means this garbage called ‘gay marriage’, and ‘wedding’ now means the union of two homos who wanna indulge in fecal-hole-penetration.

    A cultural shift to ‘Concordia’ and ‘symphonia’ could lead to a whole new movement.

    Decent folks should go through the process of de-marriage and then go through the process of re-commitment through ritual of Symphonia that binds man and woman in Concordia. Lots of money to be made in industries catering to Concordia and symphonia, especially in the South and Christian belt.

    Legally, people would still have to go through marriage process, but it would be strictly legal and nothing else.
    True meaning will come from cultural ritual and practices, and Concordia will be defined in a way that it only applies to decent folks engaged in proper sexual mating.

    A third concept could be ‘Fidelia’ that honors only those who come into sexual union within the race. Those who choose Fidelia will NOT REJECT members of the same race. Interracism is, after all, rejection of one’s own people in favor of another.

    Concordia, Symphonia, and Fidelia. Cultural concepts that could be a boon to decent folks.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  146. @Priss Factor

    You ignorant twit, Central Asia is a geographic location, not a person, and central Asians were centuries in place before Europeans appeared.

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  147. George 说:
    @Simon in London

    There is a cost to trying to be a bad boy that few mention, because I think most guys who talk about it, maybe all, don’t actually apply it in the real world, or do it terribly.

    在我的生命中,有一段时间我是一个真正的坏男孩,发生的事情是你不断受到其他男人的挑战,以严肃或微妙的方式,但你付出了大量的精力在冲突中,有时是小事,有时是认真的,和其他男人在一起。

    仅仅以自大和傲慢的方式与漂亮女孩交谈就会引起附近另一个被你的架势冒犯的男性的挑战。

    If you don’t wish to spend your life fighting, either socially or even physically, dont be a bad boy.

    认为像鲁瓦西这样受过教育的白领可以承受甚至愿意承受这种心理压力,真是可笑。

    这让我筋疲力尽,我被环境推到了那种境地。 对于任何有其他选择的人来说,有更好的生活方式。

    作为一个改过自新的坏男孩,我可以有把握地说,吸引女人并不是必不可少的。 有一部分女性喜欢这些男人,但她们远非大多数。

    Confidence and a sociable personality works fine. The bad boy stuff is an over reach that reflects more on the insecurities of guys who don’t know what the lifestyle is like than on what most women actually like.

    通过美化暴徒生活来过度补偿太多安全的郊区白人孩子是现代社会的主要内容。 如果他们过着那样的生活,他们会发现这里既不是英雄,也不是一个充满坚强自信的人的世界。 这是一个男人的世界,他们的低地位使他们对地位的威胁过度警惕和反应过度,因为他们必须捍卫自己所拥有的微不足道。 这不是一个强者的世界。

  148. Priss Factor [又名“普里斯工厂”] 说:

    In a way, all this sexual looseness and confusion are the result of contraception and antibiotics.

    Before there was effective/reliable contraception and antibiotics(for treatment of various VD’s), sexual acts led to CONSEQUENCES. Pregnancy or disease, often painful and deadly. Horrific in the case of Syphilis. Also, there were cultural consequences in a society where shame and honor mattered. Shotgun marriage for young men who get ladies pregnant. But culture of shame and honor are gone. Men are not brought up to be like Vito Corleone.

    So, people in the past had to think of not only sex but of the consequences of sex.

    Now, contraception and better medicine are a good thing. With low infant mortality in the modern world, we don’t need women having lots of kids. In the past, even a rich women could have 5 kids and lose 3 or even all of them. Today, very few babies die in infancy. Also, as VD’s are terrible, it’s good to have medicine to treat them.

    But the downside is people approach sex more casually, thoughtlessly, excessively, trashily, wantonly. They know they can indulge in it without worrying about pregnancy and disease. Also, there is no moral stigma for sexually loutish behavior.
    The New Pride is associated with men who do sodomy and with cops who act like this in public:

    So, there is no counter-balance against out-of-control sexual behavior. End result is the gross culture of Lena Dunham and Seth Rogan.
    There used to be a time when porn culture(red-light district stuff) and mainstream culture were kept separate. Now, they’ve merged.

    Imagine what would happen to food culture if someone created a pill that negates the harm of over-eating. Though there are lots of fat people(partly due to loss of stigma to being grossly fat), many people still control what they eat and exercise because they know that over-eating has CONSEQUENCES: it leads to obesity, heart disease, diabetes, ugliness, and etc.
    But imagine if a certain pill prevents all the harm resulting from over-eating. So, a woman can eat a whole cake, two chickens, a box of donuts, drink a case of Coke, and etc, and then take the pill. She remains slim and healthy. The pill negates the consequences of over-eating, just like the Birth Control Pill negates the consequences of sex.
    But what will become of her eating behavior? She will now think it’s okay to eat like a pig since she can always just take the pill afterward and avoid the consequences of over-eating. The pill may be good for her health but encourages her to eat like a glutton.
    In a way, the contraceptive and antibiotics have turned women into ‘sluttons’. Sluttony is what prevails in society with garbage like Sex and City, Desperate Housewives, Girls, and tons of other trash programs that says INDULGE, INDULGE, and INDULGE since technology now negates the consequences of excess and wantonness.
    It saves the body but coarsens and rots the soul.

  149. Priss Factor [又名“普里斯工厂”] 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    “You ignorant twit, Central Asia is a geographic location, not a person, and central Asians were centuries in place before Europeans appeared.”

    Much of Central Asia was Caucasian, but then Mongols swept in big time and messed up stuff as Tatars.

    There’s some movie to that effect.

  150. Priss Factor [AKA "Sylia Stingray"] 说:
    @Priss Factor

    “[It’s not proper behavior to duplicate your very long comments on more than one post. A very short intro plus a link to your other comment is the right approach.]”

    It’s possible someone else had the same idea I have.

    [Playing totally dumb also isn’t proper behavior]

    • 回复: @Anon
  151. Salty 说:

    The sexual marketplace has become a savage free fire zone. In order to secure a high quality life mate for marriage I had to resort to tactics that as a teenager I would have considered deplorable, and borderline despicable. You can use game with enough practice even if it is contrary to your personality. But you pay a price, you have to break yourself mentally to make the transition. It beats celibacy, being unmarried, and ending up a genetic dead end though. Still, I resent the person I had to become and the means I had to stoop to in order to survive on this battlefield.

    • 回复: @George
  152. The female investment in reproduction is far higher than males; this is just a fact of life.

    It’s a fact of life in many human societies, and perhaps that’s where we’re headed ourselves. Historically, however, men in Western societies invested just as much as women in their offspring.

    Women aren’t beating down the doors for older men. Even women in their 40s are chasing men not more than 6-7-8 years old.

    Over the age of 40, most single women are willing to consider a 10-year difference. It may be a handicap but it’s not a deal breaker. In any case, even a 5-year difference has a considerable impact on the mate market. A man in his late 20s is competing not only with men his own age but also with men in their early 30s. Do the math.

    I was curious if you had any studies that showed an STI reversal among whites.

    Chlamydia incidence was lower in women than in men in this study:

    From April to September 1993, 305 men and 447 women in Hamilton, Canada, consented to the collection of a urethral or cervical swab, respectively, for culture and 20 ml of first-void urine (FVU) for testing by the enzyme immunoassay Chlamydiazyme and by ligase chain reaction (LCR) in the form of a kit from Abbott Laboratories called LCx Chlamydia trachomatis. Evaluation of test performance with each specimen was calculated on the basis of an expanded “gold standard” of a patient found to be positive by culture or by a confirmed nonculture test. By using this expanded standard, the prevalence of infection was determined to be 6% (27/447) for the women and 18.4% (56/305) for the men

    http://jcm.asm.org/content/32/11/2682.short

    A senior Muslim politician has blamed unhappy arranged marriages to cousins for leading some Asian men to prey on vulnerable young white girls to fulfil their sexual needs.
    Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, Britain’s first Muslim peer

    A politician cannot be counted on to tell the truth. In the wake of the Rotherham scandal, Muslim leaders have had to provide some kind of explanation that would invite the least backlash. Hence the above. Politically, it would be difficult for Lord Ahmed to say: “It’s because Pakistani men are fascinated with white women, especially young ones on the brink of adolescence.”

    But yeah Professor Frost do you or do you not watch interracial porn?

    I answered that question. I don’t. When I was single I used to consume porn of the Playboy variety, but it was a very poor substitute (Does Renee Tenison count as interracial porn?). I don’t understand the many commenters here who say it’s just as good as the real thing. Either they don’t have girlfriends or they have crappy ones.

    a recent phenomenon I’ve come to notice in porn is white guys filming their wives with black men! This came to my attention after seeing a film by white guy explaining how to get your wife to sleep with a black man!

    I hope you cleaned up after you finished watching.

    All the above bodes ill for reversing white demographic decline. [..] Italy offers an example of grassroots resistance.

    I hope you’re right. Italy is on the frontline of the African tsunami. If I were a social conservative, I would leave the gays alone and concentrate on that issue.

  153. George 说:
    @Salty

    Game isn’t necessary. Try confidence, and sociability, and screen girls rather than adapting to poor behavior.

    By redefining bad behavior by girls as timeless feminine techniques to test men, whose task it is to measure up, game has committed an enormous intellectual sleight of hand that leaves all the power in the hands of women, and excuses men for weakly putting up with poor behavior (and doing game instead of walking away is tolerating poor behavior)

    Girls don’t act bad to test your masculinity. Believing they do will simply give her all the power to dictate the terms of the relationship.

    Girls act bad today because everyone does, and especially favored groups who have special status from being historical victims. These groups don’t just get a pass, they are cheered for being obnoxious. Its the same reason blacks act bad today.

    If you prefer adapting to an unprincipled girls poor behavior better than celibacy, then you have the weaker hand, but at least don’t kid yourself.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
    , @Salty
  154. Talha 说:
    @George

    Right on bro – and welcome back to the world of normal men. I have no respect for the man who goes hunting to snatch women from men that are his ‘rivals’. A confident man should recognize the humanity of his fellow and want for him to lead a dignified, un-threatened life with the woman he is with.

  155. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    The problem is more and more women use these online dating sites like tinder where they literally have access to thousands of willing and interested men. An average woman on an app like tinder will match and get interest from most guys. Whereas you take an average guy and he will barely get any matches or interest. Women are extremely more selective when it comes to looks. I don’t understand where that ridiculous saying comes from that says men value looks more than women. In reality its the other way around. Just look at any dating site.

    By selecting the best looking males from online dating sites, that means that a select few men will have access to most of the women, and a majority of men will be left nothing (Just as the article says). This is in fact happening. Also with more and more women “sexually liberated” this means they’re not looking for a serious relationship in their 20’s. This in turn leads to more frivolous One night stands and friends with benefits relationships. In both cases women don’t care about exclusivity either. This again leads to more women for the select few guys.

    所有这一切在 30 岁以下的人群中越来越多地发生。 这让外面的年轻人越来越难。

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
  156. Pat Casey 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    Appreciate the thoughts. Don’t think I’m not thinking by not responding in kind. I don’t know how old you are but I’m 28 and this is my advice cause you remind me of me six years ago over at alternative right. Do not waste your time thinking about white decline, white people, white americans. White People are the devil, according to white culture, which in america is synonymous with jewish culture. fine. let them have it, their doing a good job inviting the pendulum’s wrath. you will never go anywhere grass roots wise if you talk about white people. study the broad trends for sure, or go small grass roots for sure, but don’t go grass roots thinking about broad topics. you want to go broad start working on some good art and keep striving like faust. or keep doing what your doing, but impart your perspective elsewhere that’s not more like preaching to the quire. Don’t waste your energy preaching to the quire. And read as much G.K. Chesterton as you can.

  157. backup 说:
    @Simon in London

    “This only works if they combine this with human empathy towards the girls and seek mutual benefit rather than exploitation, though”

    As a father of daughters I wholeheartedly agree

  158. German_reader 说:
    @Peter Frost

    “I hope you’re right. Italy is on the frontline of the African tsunami. If I were a social conservative, I would leave the gays alone and concentrate on that issue.”

    Don’t know…aren’t there a lot of “social conservatives” of the Christian kind that actually hope and agitate for mass immigration of Africans (since they supposedly have such good family values, are religious and against gay marriage)? After all, the pope’s for it…
    Anyway, I wanted to say thank you for your answer regarding sex ratio at birth, haven’t had time yet to look closely at the literature, but sounds fascinating, and something I was completely unaware of.

  159. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Shiite, the eye of Unz must be hovering all over all the blogs.

  160. Anon • 免责声明 说:

    No matter how you look at it, there are a lot of unmarried women and unmarried men.

    So, if you really want to settle down, you can find one if you really look.

    Also, people have to be real. Most women are not fashion models. And most men are not Sean Conneries(even without the hair).

    Also, if a guy feels women are too childish, he must act dignified and bring her up to his level.

    If a gal finds men to be too infantile, she must do her best to tame the stupid fool–like the women try to do in Damsels in Distress.

    People need to watch The Godfather on how to be a real man. Be like Vito, and you’re half way there.

    As for the women, watch some Joan Crawford movies.

    And all you guys and girls: LOSE SOME WEIGHT!!

  161. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    That’s true, but most of those young women you describe are involved in sterile relationships. And by the time they’re in their 30s and attract less interest from men and/or think about settling down, having a fertile relationship becomes much less viable and restricted, and some give up trying to have a fertile relationship altogether.

  162. @Truth

    Hooks up? Not for 10 years maybe – serial monogamy more like.

  163. @George

    I agree with what you’re saying – I’m (obviously?) not advocating that beta white guys act like thugs. I guess I didn’t really mean ‘bad boy’ like that, just someone who’s not scared of women, not Politically Correct, just very slightly edgy – the vast majority of middle class white girls in the Anglosphere do not in fact want black thugs. In fact in the preference-by-race OKCupid data they clearly want white guys.

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
  164. @George

    I don’t really understand this – in Game you ‘measure up’ by slapping down the bad behaviour – the shit test – which discourages such behaviour. Personally I’ve found the shit-test concept very useful for understanding and better dealing with women who do it – which can be at work as well as socially.

    I suppose earlier generations all knew that men and women think and behave differently, and Game would come across as a nasty way of stating the obvious, but for those of us raised to believe the same, who have suffered greatly as a result, the psych insights from Game theory are useful

  165. KFoy 说:
    @Peter Frost

    “I don’t understand the many commenters here who say it’s just as good as the real thing.”

    Well if your only comparing to playboy magazine, it’s not the right comparison. By the way I read an interesting article here at I think at unz.com that suggested this whole modern cuckoldly fanasty might be neuropathology, might be of interest to ye. Unless you wrote it!

    Also the obesity ‘epidemic’ needs to be addressed. Even if rates of obesity are equal between the sexes men are the bigger losers IMO.

  166. @Stealth

    Yes, I have dated many African-American women. Once they know you are interested they soon warm up.

  167. George123 说:

    @西蒙

    The concept of the shit test is just a redefinition of the classic tactic adversaries of both sexes use to gain advantage in a variety of situations. They aggress against you to test your limits. When you establish limits, they back down.

    When I meet a girl, and she acts suddenly and inexplicably rude or challenging, I am familiar with that behavior from business contexts and do not romanticize it as an innocuous feminine attempt to measure my fitness for mating, and I do not glamorize my response as a demonstration of masculine virility that establishes my credentials as a mate.

    I recognize it as an aggressive power grab by a bad person who happens to be female, and understand that this person is immature and not suitable for an intimate relationship or even friendship.

    Shit tests, or simply challenging aggressive behavior designed to establish superiority (we don’t need a special phrase for it, its a well documented phenomenon), has its place in adversarial relationships, but is an illegitimate concept in the sphere of personal intimate relations, whether friendships or romance, where cooperation and benevolence are the key virtues that should be screened for.

    This is why I emphasize the importance of screening. Believe it or not, there are plenty of girls who never do shit tests.

    By sticking around with a girl who just did an aggressive power grab, even if you repel it for the moment, you are showing her that such behavior will not drive you away. You consent to a relationship of aggressive power grabs where equilibrium is established not on the basis of benevolent cooperation but rather on a dynamic of power grabs and resistance to power grabs, and that the only limitation is what she can get away with. You are ultimately rewarding the shit test and legitimizing it.

    This is why PUAs report that you can never “relax” your game – because you have conceded that the relationship is one of non-cooperative power grabs. Married gamers report that it is a lifelong process- the ‘testing’ never ends. Because you have decided to form a relationship with someone incapable of cooperative intimacy.

    The only correct response to a shit test is to walk away – as fast as you can.

    The theory that successfully repelling a shit test builds attraction in a woman is false. We see women who abuse and control their partners all the time. My sister, who is very attractive, had a string of boyfriends she abused and controlled before she got married – and then proceeded to bully and control her husband. Such men have failed to pass the shit test and yet women still form relationships with them and have sex with them proving the shit is unrelated to attraction. Its a naked power grab, no more.

    I am still young and date heavily. I employ a simple mechanism. Any shit test, I walk, no questions asked. It has not hurt my love life one bit, and has made my life immeasurably better.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  168. @Priss Factor

    You’re incorrect about white males being squeezed out the American mating market.

    As the above link demonstrates, white males get the highest response rate overall in online dating. Sure white men lose some women to black men, but they get lots of Hispanic, Asian, and Indian women. So it’s not that bad.

    As I’ve pointed out many times in thread, the true losers in the sexual market are Indian/Pak men and (to a lesser extent) East Asian men.

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  169. @Peter Frost

    Hmmm…….. I posted a comment before and it must’ve gotten lost by the system.

    So let me try again.

    Chlamydia incidence was lower in women than in men in this study:

    Thanks for the link. That’s an interesting study.

    Here’s a question: You pointed out (in a previous article) that the gender ratio used to favor men, now it favors women. Back when women outnumbered men on the mating market, was there a trend towards female hypergamy? Did the “excess” females pair up with “alpha males” in previous decades?

    It’d seem like if females outnumber males, then the left over females would pair up with already paired-up men. Of course, traditional sexual restraints (not just conservative mores, but threat of disease and pregnancy) would’ve acted to constrain hypergamy.

    In post-WWI and post-WWII Europe, women outnumbered men. That must’ve warped the mating market.

  170. @Simon in London

    Women aren’t beating down the doors for older men. Even women in their 40s are chasing men not more than 6-7-8 years old.

    That’s partly because women want sexually attractive partners. Older men typically don’t have chiseled physiques, large muscles, and handsome features. However, I’ve noticed that good looking older guys (ie Pierce Brosnan types) do very well.

    By the way, there seems to be an increase in the number of women engaging in paid sex, according to the General Social Survey. So some of these girls are likely pairing up with older men and becoming “Sugar babies.” At the same time, anecdotal evidence suggests that many of these paid concubines also have younger male partners simultaneously.

    • 回复: @Jay Fink
    , @Enrique Cardova
  171. @George

    It’s possible to be tough without being thuggish.

    Just lift weights and get cut. An aggressive look and muscular physique intimidates people, even if you don’t behave in a violent manner. Also, speak in a deep voice and act confident/commanding.

    Lots of women go for the “strong and silent type.” The trick is that you have to exhibit stoicisim in your emotions and act laconic. You also have to have masculine habits, like watching football, driving a Camaro, and shooting guns.

    If you want an image of what a highly masculine white male looks like, spend time around east coast ethnics (Italian/Irish) or rural rednecks.

    • 回复: @George123
  172. Priss Factor [又名“普里斯工厂”] 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    “You’re incorrect about white males being squeezed out the American mating market.”

    It depends on where.

    Sure, white males still get most responses in dating sites, but any increase in white female interest in black men means a threat to white males.

    Also, in lower-income integrated neighborhoods, white males do get squeezed out cuz they’re bullied and emasculated by black men.

    At least when white culture and black culture were different — with white kids listening to their own music and black kids listening to their own music — , most poor white girls stuck with white guys. But rap music culture has made white girls dance to black music, and that makes them go after negroes who wussify white boys.

    I’ve seen it all around in depressed neighborhoods in Tennessee and Kentucky.

  173. George123 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    People who cultivate an aggressive look and demeanor do so out of a need to defend against challenges to very low status. Its called “low status compensation theory”, look it up.

    They’ve done studies where people who imagine themselves being respected and recognized as high status are less likely to violently respond to provocation and insult.

    Hypervigilance towards insult is a feature of low status-anxious men.

    Besides, all that will be a severe disadvantage with educated, refined women. I live in NYC – the cool girls are not exactly lining up for the Irish and Italian guys here.

    I have no wish to be intimidating towards people or over-emphasize stoicism and machoness in inappropriate situations – that can only ever be a compensation to a reduced sense of ability to defend against genuine threat (i.e as is indeed the case with low status men, who have few resources to deal with life)

    I’ve lived in the world where this kind of behavior is necessary – I’ve emerged from it and have no wish to go back. Trust me, it isn’t a world of strong self-confident men.

  174. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Don’t listen to those “Game” people. Listen to a real man like Sean Connery:

  175. Truth 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    And I was speaking to Devlin’s specific point that this era is one where white men and women increasingly seem to simply not want each other because they don’t like each other, personally.

    答对了。

    And this is what has led to the rise, I believe in so many white women being arrested for statutory rape. I personally know two white female schoolteachers who have. I lot of white women don’t really want to be with another race, but are incredibly bored / disdainful of “normal” (read; they’re own age) white men that they are willing to risk a jail sentence.

  176. @George123

    “I am still young and date heavily. I employ a simple mechanism. Any shit test, I walk, no questions asked. It has not hurt my love life one bit, and has made my life immeasurably better.”

    Do you override them when they act silly/over-emotional? I had trouble learning that women don’t want the acquiescence they claim to want from men; they want take-charge. I guess this is what I’m thinking older generations knew, and people outside Feminist-influenced NW-European societies (inc Anglosphere) still know.

    • 回复: @George
  177. Kamran 说:

    “white folks were geopolitical weaklings.”

    真的吗? 那是什么时候?

    “…it originally meant the enslavement of fair-skinned women for sale to clients in North Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia.”

    这是什么时候大规模发生的?

    • 回复: @Logan
  178. George 说:
    @Simon in London

    This is just what I mean, simon.

    Acting silly and over emotional is a manipulation tactic, but you’re redefining it as an innocuous attempt to elicit from you a reassuring masculinity.

    A girl who acts silly and over emotional is trying to gain control. She would actually much prefer you gave in. Shell keep you around, but control you emotionally.

    She doesn’t admire you now that you’ve resisted her. If she likes you enough, she’ll stick around, but she’ll keep on trying to control you. You’ve legitimized power grabs by sticking around yourself.

    You are posing a false alternative – give in, or confront her. There is a third. Find someone else. You are romanticizing confronting her.

    Ask gamers – they say you relax your game for a second, the girl acts shitty again. They’re all shocked. They don’t understand their theory is wrong. She wasn’t trying to make you take charge, she’s just an aggressive girl looking for her chance.

    I can tell you my sister very much relished controlling her husband. She almost divorced him when he tried to take back some control. She wasn’t relieved that he was now taking back his masculine role. They finally settled o a more equal marriage, but not him actually being in charge. She’d rather divorce him.

    Gamers fail to screen girls for cooperative virtues and are then shocked that the entire relationship is spent in power grabs.

    I don’t know what business you’re in, but in mine men act over emotional, silly, and unpredictable all the time in an attempt to disorient you and gain advantage.

    Its exactly what aggressive women do.

    You should read up on aggressive personalities and the various tasks tactors and ploys they use, many of them very subtle and covert.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
    , @Anon
  179. Dew 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    “There is some truth to this, but it is questionable whether they are shut out due to demographics to any significant extent. The flip side is that many of today’s young white men are CHOOSING NOT to get married.”

    This is very true. The reasons you provided for young white men not getting married make perfect sense but most men don’t openly admit it for fear of backlash. Meanwhile, white women are free to complain “where have all the good men gone?” and sociologists give pathetic motivations for these guys to get married. Why bother? These men choose not to, but they could if they tried. Even a meh white man still has it easier in the marriage/dating department than the average Black or Asian guy.

    “Same for more young white males turning towards an increasingly acceptable homosexual lifestyle. On the other side, more young white women will likewise be sucked into the lesbian machinery. ”

    Gay men will increase in popularity. The amount of lesbians will remain low because most aren’t very likeable at all (movie fantasies aside). There are good reasons why they hang out in their own dens and use feminism/politics to gain visibility. Many young white women often pronounce themselves as bi-sexual. To be honest though, most people don’t take them too seriously, since they usually end up with guys anyway. When a guy announces himself as bi-sexual however, it is much more noteworthy and it taken much more seriously. Maybe because it’s more dangerous?

    In short, intermarriage is not a significant factor as far as white demographics. There are other much more significant INTERNAL factors contributing to white demographic decline.

    Again, very true. The whole intermarriage fear mongering is a distraction. Low birthrates and social relationships are much more important in the long run.

    • 回复: @Enrique Cardova
  180. Karl 说:

    for the foreseeable future, it will remain the case that white north-american/euro males will have sky-high MarriageMarketValue in Asia.

    The phenomenon is even ===more=== clear amongst African (the real Africa) women. Now, before you laugh at that, recall that if even 1/10,000 African women are worth bringing back home – that’s still a large number of women.

  181. “white folks were geopolitical weaklings.”

    真的吗? 那是什么时候?

    Before the 16th century, earlier in Western Europe and later in Eastern Europe. This was a time when Europeans had to live by their wits, either by offering tribute to Muslims or Mongols or by allowing them to enslave young women and pre-pubertal boys. Other Europeans lived under the direct control of Afro-Asian states. This was the case in the Iberian Peninsula, southwestern France, Sicily, the Balkans, Ukraine, and much of Russia. Russia itself had been a tributary of the Mongol Khan.

    “…it originally meant the enslavement of fair-skinned women for sale to clients in North Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia.”

    这是什么时候大规模发生的?

    It began in the 8th century. At that time, the main recruitment zone encompassed the Slavic lands between the Elbe in the West and the Volga in the East. This trade reached its height between 1500 and 1650 when it was comparable in volume to the Atlantic slave trade. It was run mainly by the Khanate of the Crimea and the Beyliks of North Africa, but both of these “states” were proteges of the Ottoman Empire.

    I’ve written about this trade in older posts:

    http://evoandproud.blogspot.ca/2013/07/white-skin-privilege.html

    http://evoandproud.blogspot.ca/2013/07/the-other-slave-trade.html

    http://evoandproud.blogspot.ca/2013/07/trading-in-fair-skinned-women-did-it.html

    http://evoandproud.blogspot.ca/2013/09/from-slavs-to-slaves.html

    http://evoandproud.blogspot.ca/2013/09/from-slavs-to-slaves-part-ii.html

    recall that if even 1/10,000 African women are worth bringing back home – that’s still a large number of women.

    Be careful about what you wish for. You just might get it.

    • 回复: @Kamran
  182. @George

    “I can tell you my sister very much relished controlling her husband. She almost divorced him when he tried to take back some control. She wasn’t relieved that he was now taking back his masculine role. They finally settled o a more equal marriage, but not him actually being in charge. She’d rather divorce him.”

    Eh – it appears from your own words she didn’t divorce him, despite her claims, and they now have a more equitable relationship.
    However I’d agree that once bad female behaviour is embedded, it is hard to shift.

    • 回复: @George
  183. Salty 说:
    @George

    I guess I was too subtle. Or you’re reading what you want to into what I am saying.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
    , @George
  184. George 说:
    @Simon in London

    My point is that passing shit tests in’t necessary to getting into relationships and having sex. Plenty of girls will have sex with guys they abuse, control, and disrespect. You can’t walk through a mall on the weekend without noticing that.

    Framing it in terms of attraction is misconceived, and glamorizes men who are unwilling to take a stand against shitty women.

    Of course if you must deal with a shitty person your best bet is to fight their power grabs. But there is nothing glamorous masculine about it, and if you actually have other options it’s a reflection of your weakness.

  185. @Salty

    I think you’re maybe not that bright.

  186. George 说:
    @Salty

    I understood your point.

    There are levels of aggression that fall short of being thuggish.

    I, however, find the levels of aggression you recommend to still be pointlessly high, unnecessary to attract women, and reflective of status anxiety rather than strength.

  187. Hey, Simon. How much gang conflict is there between South Asians (ie Pakistanis) and whites? I recall reading a lot about extensive fighting during the 80s and 90s. After the Bradford riots, you don’t really hear about it much anymore.

    It seems like a lot of the chavs are scared to go into South Asian neighborhoods, like they once did, because the South Asians seem to be able to summon a lot more people to a fight. Like, for example, during the Bradford riots, about 90% of the arrested rioters were South Asians. They seem to be able to mount huge numbers in fights, which seems to intimidate a lot of whites.

    • 回复: @Simon in London
  188. Anon • 免责声明 说:
    @George

    You must tame the shrew.

  189. @Peter Frost

    彼得说
    I hope you’re right. Italy is on the frontline of the African tsunami. If I were a social conservative, I would leave the gays alone and concentrate on that issue.

    The only thing is that there is no African tsunami pouring into Italy as a whole. Local areas like Lampesuda hit by localized surges? Sure. But overall, the proportion of said immigrants have actually been DECREASING in recent years as credible UN data shows, and a good proportion of refugees are not Africans at all but “Caucasoids” from the Middle East, primarily from the fighting in Syria and in the American bailiwick, Afghanistan.

    The “gay thing” is much more a problem for European demographic decline than such African boat people, who in any event have been declining in numbers overall. It is because: (a) the institution of marriage – the best place to create and raise children is being redefined in a destructive way, (b) more homosexuality takes healthy young white men out of the reproductive gene pool, adding yet ANOTHER nail in the demographic coffin. Italy gives an example of how the grassroots can to some extent slow down the “progressivist” and relativistic juggernaut, although, its own native population numbers have been dropping as well, just like the rest of Europe.

    Redefining a key institution that has promoted the stability and prosperity of Western society in the name of “gayness” is a lot more dangerous and will have much more negative fallout for Europe than some boatloads of African refugees, the numbers of which are declining anyway. Indeed the EU is already tightening rules to deport even more.
    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150423/1021271390.html

    It is of course easier to “pump up the base” around a non-white “enemy” as opposed to the hard, searching internal scrutiny and action on things that matter more. As conservative columnist Ben Shapiro says about the destruction of marriage- a key building block that is instrumental in restoring European families and population – and the real agenda behind it:

    Leftists have already moved to ban nonprofit status for religious institutions that refuse to acknowledge same-sex marriages; leftists have already sued into oblivion religious business owners who refuse to participate in same-sex weddings. It will not stop there. Religious schools will be targeted. Then, so will homeschooling programs. The secular religion of the left has been set free to pursue its own crusade against the infidel.
    Religious institutions were the key social glue binding Americans together; we trust one another because we share values, beliefs and social institutions with them. With all three of those elements being memory-holed by the government in favor of self-expression, social capital will disintegrate; our trust in each other will fall apart, and government will fill the gap. With this week’s judicial tyranny, leftists move one step closer to their ultimate goal, as expressed at the 2012 Democratic National Convention: “Government is the only thing we all belong to.” And that will be an ugly America indeed.

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    乔治 说:
    By redefining bad behavior by girls as timeless feminine techniques to test men, whose task it is to measure up, game has committed an enormous intellectual sleight of hand that leaves all the power in the hands of women, and excuses men for weakly putting up with poor behavior (and doing game instead of walking away is tolerating poor behavior)

    Sure “Game” is exaggerated as a panacea in some quarters, but part of “game” is precisely, walking away, and doing that sometimes does help spike bad behavior. Nothing in “game” says you have to stand around dropping “negs” or framing narratives, when someone is acting badly. Hell, you walk.

    .
    Girls act bad today because everyone does, and especially favored groups who have special status from being historical victims. These groups don’t just get a pass, they are cheered for being obnoxious. Its the same reason blacks act bad today.

    Rather naive. Some women act bad as a manipulative ploy, and bad behavior does not get a pass automatically whether it be women or blacks. Say who? In what fantasy universe does this state exist? Real life and the Net is full of criticism directed towards bad behavior. And some of the harshest criticism by the way of women acting badly is not by “game” guys, but by other women. So called “free passes” ain’t around much out there.

    .
    If you prefer adapting to an unprincipled girls poor behavior better than celibacy, then you have the weaker hand, but at least don’t kid yourself.

    Nothing in “game” says you have to hang around and adapt. You can try to reshape or redirect bad behavior, but you can also simply walk. “Game” is full of guys walking.. In fact if you don’t walk now and then you aren’t really doing “game.” One of the first things you learn for example is to move on quickly to the next prospect, when the game ain’t hitting. Walking away 1s an integral part of “game.”

    • 回复: @George123
  190. George123 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    Even the broadest most inclusive definitions of game which render the term almost meaningless and indistinguishable from simple everyday (I’ve heard people say using soap and shampoo is game, working out is game) living usually include behavior that is designed to attract women.

    Since walking away – for good, not as a tactic – ends the encounter, it isn’t game. Its a rejection of tactics whatsoever.

    Some of what passes for game may not be an adaptation to bad behavior (although my initial response was to someone who said women act terribly unless you do game), but rather the preemptive adoption of behavior on the part of the man (dominance, control), I hardly consider that anything other than a preemptive strike out of the fear of women acting badly.

    Gamer’s quite explicitly frame encounters between the sexes as female challenge and male demonstration of fitness, as the essence of relations between the sexes – walking away from a female challenge, according to game, is a failure to demonstrate fitness.

    I think society today, broadly, encourages egotistic and anti-social behavior in everyone, but especially groups seen as historically disadvantaged. I don’t see how anyone can disagree with this. That some people on the internet deplore this doesn’t invalidate the basic social trend.

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  191. Jay Fink 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I’m in my late 40s and have always been scrawny, no muscularity at all. I am currently dating a 30 year old girl. She feels great physical attraction towards me. We come from very different backgrounds. I am a wimpy Jewish guy and she is a Hispanic hoochie mama, as ghetto as can be. I’m not sure why she’s so drawn towards me but it really pumps my confidence. She is not my ideal, but I gladly take her over over a woman my age going through menopause. She is not the brightest girl (I have to explain some rather simple words to her that I use in my everyday vocabulary) but once again I’ll take her and her relative youth over a woman my age with a similar IQ as myself. I like that she dolls herself up and is in touch with her sensuality. She has a larger sexual appetite than I do. I have more younger women flirting with me now than when I was young. I am absolutely positive you don’t need a muscular build to attract younger women.

  192. @JohnnyWalker123

    lol, well reading Chesterton is good advice. But an older guy like me has seen the value of grassroots. Back in the 1980s, I saw how neighborhood block associations helped spike crime and delinquency. People in those groups would work with the cops, report suspicious activity, and one or two even ran informal patrols. Some women opened up their houses after school to little kids walking home from school- kept them on track. Then the block association threw block parties where everybody came and had a good time. It definitely helped. Not everyone on the block was active, but the leadership of a core group of enthusiasts had a significant spillover effect. That was an effective grassroots solution, that did not depend on the political elites or the local political machinery. A lot of these things were worked out informally at low levels. Some cops simply swung their patrol cars around more frequently through the area, without a whole bunch of bureaucratic BS.

    Home-schoolers do this type of thing a lot- they are a good example of grassroots organization. But what kind of grassroots organization will work to get those young white males back on track to be reproducing and such? The quickest, proven one is religion, or religion-friendly organization, provided it is grassroots in such a fashion that if the leadership caves in to elites or the media complex, hardened ground level nodes of the network will still keep going strong. Religion is a good vehicle because the network needs to build moral communities based on certain core bottom lines, such as the importance of marriage, long-term thinking, etc etc. IF properly organized, it does not have to be united around a particular charismatic leader, or agree on all points of doctrine, or get bogged down in ever changing, ever-shifting political tides. The bottom lines are the key base. There are other grassroots alternatives to the current media-politico-bureaucratic complex of course.

    Today’s young white man faces huge pressures. It is not simply the sneering feminists, or the liberal elites, or the media. There are pressures from below as well. Porn as Peter notes is a typical response for the increasingly alienated young, single white, dude. It may serve as more than a release. Unfettered porn for example can be an excellent gateway towards luring some into the “gay” machinery. Whatever the final result- whether alienated “opt out” or the gay/transsexual thing, a desensitization process is at work. More and more doses, in different guises, some subtle, some not so subtle, create less sensitivity. The gate is then opened a little bit wider to the slope beyond. And so it goes, little by little, downward. When coupled with societal approval or “political correctness” it becomes a potent double force pulling white young men on to the slope. This is not the case with all such men obviously, but you can see where the pressure is tending.

  193. @George123

    You raise some good points. I have seen the preemption angle you speak of- guys know they have little chance with particular females, so they act rudely- “let me reject them, before they reject me” and so on. As regards encounters between the sexes as female challenge and male demonstration of fitness, what you say makes some sense as well, although, it is part of game to walk away as a matter of fitness too. Many look at the game as a batting average thing. You are not gonna bat 1000. Nobody can. The leopard doesn’t score a kill in every attempt. Fitness requires, to borrow from the old Kenny Rogers song- knowing when to fold, knowing when to walk away, and sometimes knowing when to run. Game, at least in some formulations, uses the walk encounters as building blocks, lessons to sharpen skills. Quick walking or bailing out is part of the mix.

    Re society, I don’t see automatic encouragement of bad behavior, or cheering them on. In fact society has often heavily monitored and suppressed many of these groups if behavior was deemed threatening or out of sync with whatever the favored party line was at the moment. Women for example have often been heavily suppressed and monitored, in everything from sexual behavior to dress. Likewise in the Jim Crow south official or self-appointed monitors of the larger white society piled on quickly against “unapproved” behavior, some of it quite trivial, such as using the “wrong” water fountain.

    I think your point holds stronger as a case that SOME elites of society, have seized upon bad behavior and used that to push whatever agenda they favored, or attack whatever societal more or institution they are targeting. Hence for example dressing like a prostitute or using foul language might be embraced by some liberal types as “gendered communication strategies” that “subvert patriarchal hegemony.” Flamboyant “queen” antics might be embraced by gay activists as “queer authenticity narratives” that “challenge oppressive structures”of “straight discourse”, and so on. Some hippies adopted Native American peyote religious practices, or traditional rural Rastafarian ganja use, as a way to indulge in drugs, with the “friends of the earth” angle providing cover for both sounding noble, as well as getting high.

    • 回复: @George
  194. PS: The peyote practices or the ganja use are not “bad” practices per se, but legit cultural practices going back decades, even centuries. Ganja has some medicinal value for example long recognized by local peoples. In these examples, they would have been HIJACKED by various Western elites way out of local context, to pursue whatever agendas they have in mind.

  195. @Dew

    Gay men will increase in popularity. The amount of lesbians will remain low because most aren’t very likeable at all (movie fantasies aside). There are good reasons why they hang out in their own dens and use feminism/politics to gain visibility.

    Maybe, but you have to wonder sometimes. Lesbians are often used as a public persona/image of “queer” agendas because they present a softer, sometimes more attractive, or at least, less threatening image. It is more acceptable as an opening wedge. In some high schools you see now white girls holding hands and talking about “my girlfriend” to a larger degree than among guys, who tend to get more negative reaction.

    Now don’t get me wrong. Gay folk have been around for millennia, and deserve the same respect accorded everyone else on an individual human level. Hell, if someone was broken down on the road and you stopped to help and they looked “kinda gay” that would not stop most folk from helping them. Nor would most folk be attacking gay people on the street etc, or using slurs in their face or backbiting them at the office, etc. That’s individual respect and decent treatment, person to person. But that does not mean you have to redefine a key institution and building block of society, marriage, which serves quite essential and critical purposes for society. There are plenty of other alternatives that can meet the needs of those without descendants, or who need to leave inheritances and property to non family, etc etc., as well as various special cases. Tweaks to individual laws, civil union arrangements, etc were all good alternatives scorned by the elites. They will not be satisfied, they will push for more.

    A next critical battleground for white males is the trend to control and condition them when they are younger and younger. That means sexualizing children more and more and blurring fundamental distinctions- such as between male and female- so they can be sucked into the machinery. The “gendered summer camp” in the link below shows the control and conditioning at work, as young white males, children, are cross-dressed and “get in touch” with their “other side” and so on. This control and conditioning agenda will have to be faced more and more in the future. It will no longer be a few professors in the ivory towers arguing, or running “experimental” projects, but bureaucratic state power will be applied to force the agenda through. Look at the young white males being conditioned in the link below.

    http://time.com/3743987/gender-creative-kids/

  196. Kamran 说:
    @Peter Frost

    Dr. Frost, a few caveats,

    Did not the vikings themselves capture and enslave “white” women from among slavic tribes and from Christian Europe, whom they consequently transported and sold to Muslim traders on the shores of the Black Sea and the Mediterranean and farther afield? Can you bring any genetic proof, for example by comparing uniparental markers or Identity-by-descent to prove recent shared ancestry between the middle eastern people in the locations where these sexy slavegirls landed and “white” women from Europe?

    This is important to me personally for two reasons,

    1) I am a man of Turkish descent living in America, and I am interested in taking a genetic test to determine if I share any recent ancestry with Europeans/Americans that can be traced back to this population movement.

    2) I agree with your assessment of the particular attractiveness of the European female phenotype. Especially that of girls aged 12-18. They are exceedingly lovely, and I wonder if it will be possible that such a trade will ever take place again. I am sure a huge demand will exist, both among whites and non-whites. Consider the lovely Jenny Agutter, in the 1969 obscure movie, ‘I Start Counting.’

    https://goo.gl/eIE434

    Many consumers will fall in love with such a wonderful young white lady. A huge demand exists for the female european phenotype all over the world, but I find it difficult to imagine how to provide a supply for such a demand. Kidnapping young girls and selling them is an option that is off the table. How about cloning?

  197. @Jay Fink

    No you don;t need any muscular build to attract younger women. There are offsets women look at: height in the looks department can be one, cash in the wallet as far as resources is another, your job and family background as far as social status is a third. Getting a woman is not so much the problem as getting THE TYPE OF WOMAN you WANT. Everyone wants the top tier honeys but these are a tiny proportion- most men will fail to get them. By contrast, there are plenty of homely, pasty chunkettes or scrawny chicken-leggers on the market. One big problem out there with some young dudes is an unrealistic expectation and demand for “good looking” women, and all this angst and frustration that they can’t obtain what they believe they “deserve” as far as these “good looking” women.

    One can understand the frustration and it is partly caused by unrealistic expectations pumped up by the media, and society. White feminists complain about it all the time- the artificial media image, and if a woman doesn’t measure up to it, then she is of lesser worth. “Game” unfortunately has somewhat magnified this tendency. Who wants to score with an ugly duckling? Women who don’t measure up are lesser beings on the scale of human worth.

    You have a good woman- and you are realistic. You know she is no top tier fashion model. But many men are unrealistic about the pool of women out there. The “good looking” (so-called based on the media or societal standards) women are a small minority, and there is heavy demand for them. They have suitors lined up 2, 3 deep. A woman on a dating site just has to change her picture to the media ideal and they come running and panting like dogs, whereas before they would not give her the time of day. These unrealistic expectations are part of the problem as to why things SEEM to suck for young men today.

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    , @Anon
  198. George 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    Ok, but there it is again – walking away to sharpen your skills. The implication is that she would have responded well to you had you only shown proper doninance.

    Any girl that will only respond well to you if you approach with the proper aggression is simply a bad girl. Retreating, then learning how to be more aggressive with the next girl, is adapting to bad behavior. (Dominance is aggression)

    Most girls will be turned off by a dominant approach, and the minority that will like it, are spoiled goods. They have problems.

    There are no skills to attracting women – there is just the terrifying finality of your own irreducible limitations. Beyond social skills, which include cooperation and benevolence, there is the stark, unforgiving reality of who you are.

    When the harsh realities of my life lifted and allowed me to become softer and more benevolent, the range and quality of women available to me expanded. I no longer was limited to the small pool of disturbed women who value aggressive men.

    The desire to dominate women, especially ones that don’t find you attractive, is an old male impulse rooted in fear. It is gaining a new lease on life among disenfranchised men – where it always has had its greatest appeal – by re packaging it in terms calculated to appeal to modern sensibilities fed on pop notions of evolutionary psychology.

    But it is an old story, and each new generation of disenfranchised men will have to find a way to make palatable in an ancient psychological need arising out of low-status anxiety.

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  199. @JohnnyWalker123

    There basically isn’t any Pakistani-white gang conflict in London, unless you count anti-Islamist groups like the EDL as ‘gangs’ – but that is political. All the ethnic gangs keep gang violence among themselves (Pakistanis kill Pakistanis, Tamils (occasionally) kill Tamils). There are not really any white youth gangs any more that I can think of; there are groups who function much as gangs such as the Irish Travellers; but they are a tribe not a gang. There are Turkish organised crime gangs. But all the youth street gangs are primarily non-white. White British & Irish youth who are in gangs (a relatively small number of white males I think) are generally in mixed-race gangs centred around the Afro-Caribbean ethny.

    I remember coming to London from Coventry and Sheffield and being struck by how the indigenous whites did not let their children on the streets; in fact you rarely seem to see unaccompanied children in my part of London at all (white or non-white), unlike provincial cities.

    I don’t think white Londoners are as pacified as continental north-west Europeans, but there is something of the same tendency.

    Edit: You are right about the huge numbers that Pakistanis and other tribal/inbred groups can muster, also they will escalate very quickly to lethal force. The usual tactic is to ambush rivals with overwhelming numbers and deadly weapons, basically how chimpanzees kill off rival groups. White gang violence tends to be much less deadly and more ritualistic. White boys looking for a playground scrap – harmless fun in Anglo culture – have been murdered by gangs of south Asians including the Asian boys’ extended family.

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  200. @George

    “Most girls will be turned off by a dominant approach, and the minority that will like it, are spoiled goods. They have problems.”

    This is all bollocks. Here’s something I saw a Greek woman post on a dating site:

    “…So looking for 100% man ))) with strong personality (I am a strong one – you have to be stronger than me , let me be a woman)”

    That’s reality. It’s just that most NW European women (and some men, apparently) don’t want to admit reality.

    • 回复: @George123
  201. Jay Fink 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    While some young men insist on the hottest women, I believe the opposite situation is more common and more of a problem. Not only will many men have sex with anything that moves, many average looking men are getting in LTRs and even marrying rather hideous looking fatties and uglies. I guess they decide an unattractive girl is better than being lonely for the rest of their lives. This I believe is the #1 reason behind the female obesity epidemic and why more women than ever dress frumpy and put no effort in their appearance. If men had higher standards we would see a lot more appealing women out there than we do today.

    • 回复: @Enrique Cardova
  202. Kilo 4/11 说:

    In the over 100 comments that I’ve read so far, I haven’t seen this thought mentioned, so here goes…

    Having tried most every mating strategy imaginable during the course of my bachelorhood, (I’ve been mostly happily and completely faithfully married for 18 years now) I’m convinced that the most powerful words a man who is looking for a mate can say to a woman are: “Will you marry me?” There are costs and benefits to this approach, but before going into them, let me define some terms.

    Man: a man does not seek pleasure alone. Put in positive terms, a man recognizes, and has the strength of character to accept, that his desire for pleasure must be made to serve higher ends; he is not a slave to lust and fleeting passions but rather harnesses them to carry himself, through his genes, into the future. What is so great about the future? Let the future take care of itself, I can hear some say. I’ll get back to that…

    Mate: this refers to someone with whom and around whom you plan on building your life. For this plan to work, it really should include having children or at least being open to the possibility of them. Select for health, honesty, modesty, intelligence and attentiveness (to you, at least), in roughly that order. The honesty and modesty part make it a very good idea for you to attend church, though you can find these things in someone with whom you work or go to school. If you think in these terms, you automatically increase your chances of finding someone, because this widens the circle of prospective partners. Perhaps this will involve asking for the hand of one who does not meet your wildest fantasy of what a woman should look like: see definition of “man”, above. But – surprise! – this kind of seriousness will also open up the hearts and minds of more than a few of the supposedly more desirable and reputedly harder to get women. One reason this is so is because many, probably most women, even among the most driven to succeed career women, still deep down want to have children, and nothing says children like a proposal of marriage.

    A serious proposal of marriage also works wonders for a man’s bargaining position, by, among other things, putting the woman on the spot. She must fish or cut bait. Either you get a quick, time-saving dismissal (which does not, however, necessarily mean it’s over – she may very well be filing you away for future reference) or you move up into the “someone to take seriously”, and to continue seeing, category right away. (Note: this may not – should not – translate to becoming sex partners; that would defeat the whole purpose.) A proper proposal, humbly made yet warmly pressed, will have an emotional effect like the stone cast out on the pond: the ripples will spread to all the unseen nooks and crannies of her personality while the stone will reveal the depth of her character. It dissolves much of her suspicion of your motives. You still must walk the walk, i.e., ignore other women, act like a gentleman (more on this below) with her, introduce her to the parents, etc.

    Another way a marriage proposal strengthens you is in the fact that you can feel more confident approaching even the more desirable women with it. Look at it this way: instead of being just another guy presenting her with nothing more than the prospect of the usual cheap date followed by a request for sex, you can stun her by by stepping up to bet all you’ve got, the farm, your entire roll, your life, on her. Sure, some attention must be paid to your relative SESs. It is probably (but not always) not a good idea for the mail room guy or the barista to try for the six-figure executive. But even a woman who out-earns you, if she’s a good one by the criteria I set out above, and if you are employed and not dressed like a slob, will be impressed by the offer and most likely will at least give you some face time.

    Now to costs and benefits. We hear so much about the danger of divorce and the bias of the courts against men. Marriage is a crap shoot and the odds are you’ll lose. The best answer to this is: think of what there is to gain. Every survey says married men are happier and live longer. You can significantly reduce the risk of a failed marriage by investing in a longish, but not too long – three to six months should tell you all you need to know – engagement period. Involving parents and church elders/priests/married mentors ups your chances even more. With intelligence, patience, good will, and – I highly recommend – prayer, good, lasting marriages can be made.

    You also have to consider what economists call opportunity costs. You are already losing, every day you remain womanless and miserable. How long do you want the losing streak to continue? You don’t get bad days back to do over, you just get another day older, another day closer to the tipping point where your hopeless attitude and bad habits link up with that certain point in the receding hairline and increasing paunch that suddenly causes the “loser/damaged goods” sign to light up on your forehead.

    Obviously, what I’ve said above is slanted toward the guy who’s having problems finding a woman. But you playboys, PUAs, dreamboats, alpha winners, etc. listen up! You can keep pretending your glory days will never end, or you can get smart, lock in a pretty young thing while you still can, (stop thinking the next one will be even hotter – the hunt for the perfect 10!) and start working out a life strategy rather than playing tactics. Fortunes rise and fall; health (mental as well as physical), wealth, friends can all disappear in a New York minute. And I guarantee you – you will never feel more of a man, more a winner, than when you take your wife and family out for a stroll, see your son up at the plate or playing the piano, and know that you made it all possible.

  203. George123 说:
    @Simon in London

    People select facts to suit their narrative. Facts must be interpreted with caution, the arrow of causality is by no means clear, and behavior does not necessarily reveal preferences, as I will show.

    On SWPL websites, there are many men who claim to want “empowered” women with a disregard for “superficial” things like appearance who can take charge in a relationship. What to make of that?

    There is a small group of white girls that love Asians (google it).

    From the many men who allow themselves to be abused by their girlfriends, I can claim that men *真的* want to be dominated by women. From the many girls who abuse their boyfriends, I can claim girls select for men who are compliant. From the many men with fat girls, I can claim men like fat girls. From the many men with girls who dress sloppy, I can claim men *really” like poorly made up girls.

    In fact, women’s magazines frequently have features about “why men love bitches” – is that an example of a group of people trying to justify their tendencies? Does that remind you of game? After all, we see so many men in relationships with bitches! They must LOVE them.

    There are girls who like silent, stoic, men, and girls who like *charming*, gregarious, talktative men with wit and scintillating conversation.

    There are ARE girls who like aggressive, dominant men, and in some countries, and social sectors, they are even the majority.

    I assume readers of this site want girls mostly from the educated, refined, urban class. Among these girls, arrogance does not pay off.

    You need lots of experience and no preconceptions (an almost impossible condition) to make sense of the confusing data, which is why younger guys are at such a disadvantage in a culture that no longer believes in transmitted wisdom, and which is why self-justifying myths proliferate.

    The situation is similar with nutrition science, where every single nutrient has studies showing exactly opposite effects.

  204. @Simon in London

    Maybe a lot of lower-class and “rougher” whites have been driven out of London (especially East London) by immigration-related displacement and high housing prices? Many cockneys supposedly went to nearly all-white Essex.

    When the English riots kicked off in 2011, the London rioters were overwhelmingly black. As the riots progressed north, lots of chavish whites joined in.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/fear-and-loathing-after-racial-murder-gangs-of-teenagers-have-vowed-to-avenge-the-death-of-a-white-schoolboy-stabbed-by-a-group-of-asians-in-somers-town-north-london-on-saturday-mary-braid-reports-on-the-mounting-tensions-1383793.html

    Here’s an article from 1994 from London.

    The Bengali boys hanging around the Surma Community Centre down the road do not need to see the quartet’s ‘tools’ – a hammer and a baseball bat – to know they mean business.

    Sunday, the day after Richard Everitt, 15, was stabbed to death after being attacked by 11 Asian youths, was a beautiful day but there was hardly an Asian boy to be seen. Most stayed indoors or out of the neighbourhood.

    ‘My mother rang me and told me not to come home because white men and boys were out on the street,’ said Nasim Ali, a Surma youth worker.

    ‘They passed right under our flat. Fortunately all the Bengali boys were home from work by the time. But it’s really tense. Two guys passed the community centre today in baseball caps and sunglasses and whispered to two staff that there would be revenge for Richard Everitt’s death.’

    The school holidays have heralded the start of the annual violence between Asian and white youths from the mixed Regent’s Park and predominantly white Somers Town estates. The only surprise this summer, said Paul, is that it has taken three weeks to get the aggro started.

    As police strengthened street patrols yesterday in an effort to prevent revenge attacks, Richard Everitt’s mother, Mandy, refused to appeal for calm. She claimed an Asian pupil had previously threatened her son with a knife at South Camden Community School which she insisted was rife with racial tension.

    Paul and the boys, still fuming at the way police broke up their raiding party on Sunday night, are still bent on revenge. They blame the Asian boys for trouble. ‘They ‘firm up’ during the holidays by getting their friends down from other estates,’ said Mark , 14. ‘We don’t go looking for trouble but we can take them on.’

    According to John , 15, there has been trouble with Asians in the area since his father was his age. ‘They shouldn’t be here. They take our jobs and our houses.’

    The boys are astonished at the suggestion they might attend the Surma summer youth club. White boys attend the Samuel Lithgow Boys’ Club round the corner.

    They also say they would never attend the South Camden Community School – which was yesterday mourning Richard’s death – because there are ‘too many Pakis’. Couples who do not observe the racial divide are particularly hated. ‘She’s dirty,’ says Mark pointing to a house near by. ‘She’s going out with a Paki.’

    The British National Party recognises the area’s potential. According to community leaders, the party tried hard to set up a local branch in the area before its attention was distracted by this year’s local council elections. But the boys are not keen on the group. ‘The BNP comes down here, gets everyone whipped up and then when the trouble starts we get it and they run away. We want nothing to do with them.’

    The police say that there have been 117 racial attacks in the area in the past eight months and that only seven have been on white people. Paul insists the police usually ignore the racial element in attacks on whites.

    Bengali schoolboys Miah and Ali, both 16, say they are shocked by Richard’s death. Miah said: ‘The boy seems to have had nothing to do with trouble. We are so shocked that Bengali boys could do this. It is the innocent increasingly who are suffering.’

    But they are not surprised that gangs of youths – Bengali and white – are going round with weapons. ‘Our parents say keep out of trouble,’ said Ali. ‘But they don’t realise how bad it is because they are scared to go out. They have always been called Pakis and insulted.

    ‘The tension isn’t any better or worse just now. It’s been as bad as this for years. What has changed is that Asian boys don’t just take it any more. They are also prepared to fight.’ The boys have white friends at school but say socialising with Bengalis is simply safer.

    Yesterday the Bengali Workers Action Group, which runs the Surma centre, condemned the murder of Richard Everitt and said it was concerned at the high level of racial violence in the area.

    Geoff Conway, deputy headteacher at South Camden Community School, said yesterday there was a danger that the tragedy of Richard’s death would be swallowed by the race issue. He said racism was a not major problem at the school – where 50 per cent of the pupils are Bengali and 25 per cent Afro-Caribbean – and pupils generally got on well together.

    When the Bradford riots kicked off, a few hundred BNP guys were met by force from thousands of South Asians. After that, it seemed like whites became a lot more intimidated of the Pak/Bengali youths.

    By the way, here’s a graph of the religious demographics of youth in several large British cities:

    It seems like whites are seriously outnumbered in many of these areas.

    Here’s an interesting documentary on Manchester white street youth, who are called “Scallies.”

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  205. Karl 说:
    @Jay Fink

    >>> I’m in my late 40s and have always been scrawny, no muscularity at all. I am currently dating a 30 year old girl

    drink that milk Jay, but don’t buy that cow.

    because in another 15 years, you can move to Nicaragua or Cebu…. and have a harem of young-20-something beauties.

  206. SFG 说:
    @Jay Fink

    How much money have you got, Jay?

    There is a nonzero probability you are being used.

  207. @Jay Fink

    我相信这是女性肥胖流行背后的第一大原因,也是为什么比以往任何时候都有更多的女性穿着简陋,不为自己的外表付出努力。 如果男性有更高的标准,我们会看到比我们今天更有吸引力的女性。

    Fair enough. It could be that these women know that many men will jump at anything, so they do not put out much effort appearance/health wise. I wonder if this could also apply to behavioral/psychological outcomes- i.e. they know some of these men are not too picky, so they can behave badly and the men will put up with it, just to get a chance to “hit it”? Just wondering if a “captive market” of desperate and/or indifferent men leads to such patterns..

    • 回复: @Jay Fink
    , @SFG
    , @Anon
  208. Jay Fink 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    You are on to something there. My ex behaved badly. Major anger issues, excessive nagging etc. After I finally left her she found a new boyfriend in days. She pulls the same out of control anger on him and he puts up with the abuse. He never had a girlfriend before and feels lucky to have her. He basically has a choice of dealing with her anger or going back to being dateless and celibate, possibly for life.

  209. Anonymous • 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    I don’t think it can be the case that South Asian/Indian men completely strike out with women. For starters, according to this:

    http://www.ayi.com/dating-blog/united-kingdom-interracial-dating-ethnicity-preference/

    the most preferred ethnicities of males in the UK are 印度人 and Latino. For women it is white and Latino.

    I think there’s an age-reflected thing going on too. In my experience, amongst older white women, there is much preference to date Indian/South Asian men. Whereas white women in the younger generation are much 更多 open to this type of dating. I think the reason being the lack of integration of older generations of South Asians as compared with the younger lot. Even the criminal-hoodlum types have created their own brand of “British Asian thug culture” — the key word that it is seen as much more “British” than was the case even 10 years ago.

    Looking at my own circle, I can’t see a single woman over 40 that is married to an [South] Asian. Looking at the 20-40 group, I know three. So it seems to be a lot more common now then before. I also think there is a bigger cultural handicap that South Asian men operate with, compared to East Asian/Chinese males. After all, there are cool Chinese stereotypes, like the kung-fu master or invincible chef. The only stereotype that comes to mind when thinking of a South Asian man is a taxi/mini-cab driver or corner shop/petrol-pump owner.

    I also wouldn’t take chlamydia infection rates as published by the NHS as cast-iron guidance of a genuine sex-discrepancy between Asian Indian males and females. For starters, those records are only the folks that are checking in, and men tend to seek medical help much less than females. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if South Asian males avoided treatment for STDs by not reporting them, or prolonging the amount of time before they get something checked out.

  210. SFG 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    It’s really just power dynamics and supply and demand. Look at all the high-value men who slap their women around, cheat constantly, and get away with it, because they know if they drive away one woman another will follow? (Practitioners of Game would add that these actions demonstrate the high value of the men and make them more attractive to boot–but, of course, they only work for high-value men…as any of the smarter Game writers will add.)

    Similarly, it’s not as if the obesity epidemic only affects women–men are about as fat. (Indeed, obesity is worse for men in health terms.) But women don’t care as much if their guy’s a little chunky. If everyone gets fatter, the women in the 10th or 20th attractiveness percentile have little reason to eat well–there’ll be another neckbeard D&D fan to jump on you anyway. (I say this as an owner of the Deities and Demigods edition with Cthulhu.)

    • 回复: @Jay Fink
    , @Enrique Cardova
  211. Kamran 说:

    彼得·弗罗斯特(Peter Frost)

    Dr. Frost, a few caveats,

    Did not the vikings themselves capture and enslave “white” women from among slavic tribes and from Christian Europe, whom they consequently transported and sold to Muslim traders on the shores of the Black Sea and the Mediterranean and farther afield? Can you bring any genetic proof, for example by comparing uniparental markers or Identity-by-descent to prove recent shared ancestry between the middle eastern people in the locations where these sexy slavegirls landed and “white” women from Europe?

    This is important to me personally for two reasons,

    1) I am a man of Turkish descent living in America, and I am interested in taking a genetic test to determine if I share any recent ancestry with Europeans/Americans that can be traced back to this population movement.

    2) I agree with your assessment of the particular attractiveness of the European female phenotype. Especially that of girls aged 12-18. They are exceedingly lovely, and I wonder if it will be possible that such a trade will ever take place again. I am sure a huge demand will exist, both among whites and non-whites. Consider the lovely Jenny Agutter, in the 1969 obscure movie, ‘I Start Counting.’

    https://goo.gl/eIE434

    Many consumers will fall in love with such a wonderful young white lady. A huge demand exists for the female european phenotype all over the world, but I find it difficult to imagine how to provide a supply for such a demand. Kidnapping young girls and selling them is an option that is off the table. How about cloning?

    • 回复: @JohnnyWalker123
  212. Jay Fink 说:
    @SFG

    A very similar % of men and women are obese according to the BMI. However, this is misleading because many men who score as obese on the BMI actually have muscular builds. Because of this it would seem obesity is much more prevalent among women than men.

  213. I don’t think it can be the case that South Asian/Indian men completely strike out with women. For starters, according to this:

    http://www.ayi.com/dating-blog/united-kingdom-interracial-dating-ethnicity-preference/

    That online dating site study found that men were 3x more likely to be contacted than women. It also found that only about 3.5% of women were contacted on their online dating site. That’s completely implausible and I question the study findings. Does anyone believe that only 3.5% of women would be contacted on an online dating site (LOL)? Does anyone believe men are 3x more likely to get contacted than women?

    On American dating sites, women get much, much higher response rates. The study’s findings are just not plausible.

    I also think there is a bigger cultural handicap that South Asian men operate with, compared to East Asian/Chinese males. A

    British Chinese men have much higher inter racial cohabitation and interracial marriage rates than Indian/Pak men in the UK.

    I also wouldn’t take chlamydia infection rates as published by the NHS as cast-iron guidance of a genuine sex-discrepancy between Asian Indian males and females. For starters, those records are only the folks that are checking in, and men tend to seek medical help much less than females.

    The NHS study has an enormous sample size of 332,000. That’s about 1 in 23 UK youth in the 15-24 age range. Very good sample size.

    Also, the South Asian female-male STI gap is larger than the gap among whites. Why would the male-female STI gap among South Asians exceed the male-female STI gap among whites? The only explanation for this relatively large gap is that South Asian women must be engaging in hypergamy with non-SA males.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if South Asian males avoided treatment for STDs by not reporting them, or prolonging the amount of time before they get something checked out.

    That’d change the number of infections detected, but likely not the infection rate. SA males have a MUCH lower number of infections and a lower infection rate than white males.

    Also, even if the above did change the infection rate, it’d artificially inflate the SA rate if we assume that SAs typically only get tested when they’re “sure” they’re infected. The SA infection rate might be therfore even lower if more SAs were coming in for testing. Therefore, the SA-white gap in infection rates might even be wider than the results indicate.

    Also, it’s important to remember that women often get screened when they’re accessing other reproductive services (ie they walk in for a physical, but the doctor reminds a chlamdyia screening), which is common for women. Men typically don’t access reproductive services, so their screening is deliberate (ie they walk in and request it). That’d mean that the SA female stats are less likely to be affected by selection bias than the male results, which (as discussed above) may be artificially inflated.

  214. @SFG

    杰·芬克 说:
    他基本上可以选择处理她的愤怒或回到没有约会的日子和独身生活,可能是终生。

    这对于一些女权主义者的标准党派路线来说很有趣,即男性是霸道的混蛋和控制狂,但实际上,在许多情况下,情况可能恰恰相反。 发号施令的可能是那个女人。 我想知道对这种结果的恐惧是否是当今年轻的白人对婚姻更加谨慎的另一个原因。

    A Fox News discussion panel some time ago of mostly females opined that substantial levels of divorce in part are because women are more independent today and “don’t need a man.” This was true enough, but only one of the female panelists seemed to grasp the implications of that, as to why men were opting out, and refusing to marry as in the past. If women don’t need men so much anymore, well, why do men need to get tied down in marriage with women anymore?

    The male breadwinner role is eroded, women are doing much better in schools and colleges, the recession has damaged female employment less, and traditional blue collar work that men used to be able to get to sustain families has long declined. And in divorce proceedings, things oft will go much harder on a man than a woman- whether it be custody, alimony or other things. Given these realities, many young white men may be asking, in a sense, why do I need to be under the thumb of a female? This line of thinking is not at all unreasonable, though “the marriage strike” or opt-out has some negative implications that will impact declining white demographics. There is a lot of suspicion out there between the sexes.

    .
    SFG说:
    他们只为高价值的男人工作……正如任何更聪明的游戏作家都会补充的那样。)

    YEah, I am glad you add that qualifier. The higher value men can get away with such things more. One wonders though why many females in the higher, or even middling tiers put up with such abuse then lament “the shortage of good men.” Is there that much of a shortage or is it a case of women turning away more considerate men, because they are not rich enough, not tall enough, not metrosexual fashionable enough, or whatever- to hook up with the same jerk types again and again? I wonder if some of today’s young men are going their own way more because they are getting tired of seeing this scenario repeated..

    .
    如果每个人都变胖了,那么吸引力在第 10 或 20 百分位的女性就没有理由吃得好——反正会有另一个脖子胡须的 D&D 粉丝扑向你。 (我是作为 Cthulhu 神和半神版的所有者这么说的。)
    lol.. would one translation be- “what the hell, I don’t give a damn, there’s always another swinging dack around the corner?”

    • 回复: @SFG
    , @Anon
  215. @Kamran

    2) I agree with your assessment of the particular attractiveness of the European female phenotype. Especially that of girls aged 12-18.

    我勒个去?

  216. @JohnnyWalker123

    “Maybe a lot of lower-class and “rougher” whites have been driven out of London (especially East London) by immigration-related displacement and high housing prices? Many cockneys supposedly went to nearly all-white Essex.”

    Oh yes, definitely.

    • 回复: @Rb
  217. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Renoman

    And you think this is restricted to WOMEN??? HaHa look around you, ma cheri!

  218. Rb 说:
    @Simon in London

    The BME population of Essex has increased rapidly in the last 15 years.

  219. Jake 说:
    @Luke Lea

    I agree 11%-20% seems very high. Then again, I don’t live in America.

  220. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Actually the more I think on the Chlamydia data that I linked before, the more certain things stick out.

    The most trustworthy data due to large sample size would be for whites. What you notice is that between 2003-2007 the ratio of male:female sampled increases [or in other words, more males are sampled as a proportion of the total]. This results in a higher positive % of infection 女用. I assume this means that the more equal the sample [50/50 sex split], the more you will notice a positive hit rate for women [i.e. more women have Chlamydia than men].

    The 2007 data contains a skew that “hurts” the subcontinent Asian males; as a proportion of the total males sampled for their own race, they make up more than white males and quite a bit more than Chinese males. Proportionally, I’d want to see quite a bit more white males and a HELLUVA lot more Chinese males sampled before I came to any conclusions.

    还 @约翰尼·沃克(JohnnyWalker)123 I can think of one obvious reason for the discrepancy — and it could be actually rather the same for the discrepancy between white males and females, now that I think about it. It’s that a small band of infected subcontinental males are sleeping with a larger share of subcontinental females. It may be hypergamy at work, but it’s not necessarily white males getting in on the action! In fact given the small total numbers of infected we are talking about [sample size], it’s not entirely improbable as a scenario.

  221. Anonymous • 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    More and more men are coming to realize that Manhood Academy was right all along when it spoke about this phenomena years ago.

    Time for men to hear the truth: Manhood101. c o m

  222. @German_reader

    It various between more than just blacks & whites. East asians naturally have a higher sex ratio at birth than whites.

    The obvious reason is evolution. Most speculate africa’s low sex ratio is due to polygyny.

  223. SFG 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    Yeah, I thought I was trying to be sarcastic and cynical, but you beat me at it.

  224. @Anon

    Very unscientific for a high IQ fellow (just a guess) but you fail to understand female psyche! Sex selection since millenia has never changed. What has changed is perception on how it happened in the first place. That is the meaning of choice, if there was ever one.

  225. The author seems to be leaving out basic information and I sense the main clue is socioeconomic in origin. Present society (US) is changing to such an extent that the tools are not there for choices as there were, at least 20 years ago. Jobs are drying up (moving overseas) lesser chances for promotion, low wages, inabilty for collective bargaining and that effects prospects for the futures especially if your corporate masters like cheap labour. SInce there is more participation in the marketplace (illegals!), more competition, lesser pay, herein lies the problems affecting prospects (women, i.e.) and housing considerations.

  226. @Lion of the Judah-sphere

    将游戏与跨性别相比是完全错误的。

    Game is teaching men how to behave in a certain way with the ultimate goal of getting laid. If men don’t get laid using the technique, they stop doing it. 因此,游戏是达到目的的手段。 No man using game claims that he is “really” an alpha-ladies man type inside; he is merely learning behaviors to get him laid.

    Transgenderism, in contrast, is the idea that these dudes are really women on the inside, but outer biology and evil social norms have prevented their flowering. There is no “method” to be learned in transgenderism; the outer world is supposed to “accept” the new sex of the tranny and it will free the tranny.

    使用游戏的男性类似于学习弹吉他或修理汽车的男性
    : a skill learned for a benefit. Transgenderism is akin to demanding people call you “Lord Rathbone” because you made up an English title for your self.

    • 回复: @L Woods
  227. @Diversity Heretic

    Waaah. These guys need to grow the hell up. Work out a little, join a friendly church especially near a college campus, ditch any heavy drinking, get off the porn, they’ll find a good woman.

  228. @Maj. Kong

    如果他是认真的,白人可以在这里找到一个女孩。 或者在东欧或亚洲。 绝对没有必要独自结束和基因的死胡同,更不用说和一个非洲女人一起去了。

  229. @Priss Factor

    也许一个人无法坚持“后宗教”并获得个人和社会都可以从一个专注于宗教和团结的社区中获得的结果。

  230. @Bill P

    一个人必须有非常高的收入或非常少的子女抚养费,才能认为作为一个有孩子与你分开生活的单身男人在经济上通常是没问题的。

    有多少男人可以轻松负担两个孩子的抚养费加上男人自己的住房和生活费用? 不是大多数。

  231. @David Davenport

    这里的前天主教徒,最近参加了一个保守的浸信会教堂。 我们目前的浸信会教堂和我们参加的任何 RC 教区就参加服务的人而言似乎都不像一个同性恋聚会场所。 在所有。 我们在洛杉矶。

    至于卫理公会、长老会和圣公会教堂,是的,我敢打赌它们是不同的。

    我们确实在一个教区看到了一个非常典型的同性恋执事,以及在同一个教区的一位牧师,他也被认为是同性恋。

  232. @Simon in London

    我一直认为菲律宾人比其他亚洲人更具吸引力和吸引力,当然比中国人和韩国人更受欢迎。 旁观者眼中的美,嗯?

  233. Anonymous [又名“k2”] 说:
    @Anon

    “不正视现实、适当成熟的男孩不是男人。”

    失业是影响可婚性的一个因素。 自经济衰退以来失业的男性越来越多,很少有社会项目可以让他们重回正轨。 他们陷入抑郁、帮派、暴力、自杀、自卑感。
    男孩被视为二等公民……对所谓的“女童”构成威胁。 一个失业的男人不能约会女人或帮助他的家人。 他性格破碎……就像一头受伤的狮子。 想象一下当今社会上成群结队的这样的人。

    单亲妈妈不能单独抚养孩子,更不用说抚养男孩了。 超过 12/14 岁的男孩不再听母亲的话……他们变得几乎无能为力,这里需要一个父亲的形象。

    我相信男人+女人婚姻关系的互补性在形成孩子的个性和性格方面起着至关重要的作用。 单身父亲和单身母亲(鳏夫或离婚者)根本无法生存。

    随着越来越多的女性(也单身)在工作场所没有时间照顾孩子,越来越多的单身父母离婚,稳定的男性角色的发展受到严重威胁。
    单身母亲正在将她们的男性后代女性化,并将她们的女儿男性化/女性化。
    没有认真的追求者想要这些。 人们在寻找配偶时希望互补互补。

    如果我们想要完全男性化的男性化男孩/完全女性化的女孩,我们需要捍卫传统家庭和稳定的婚姻。 否则,让我们停止抱怨没有真正的男人可以结婚。

    • 同意: anarchyst
    • 回复: @Expletive Deleted
  234. Anonymous [又名“boomerfinder”] 说:
    @Anon

    找到了婴儿潮一代。

  235. Bolteric 说:

    我很高兴这篇文章被转发。 并感谢弗罗斯特先生链接到关于荷兰情人的学术文章。

    我们的一个朋友看着我们的一个男孩,她自己有四个男孩,现在已经 30 多岁了。 三个男孩结婚了,一个挣扎,最近自杀了。 他显然向他妈妈倾诉他想要一个家庭。

    已故的年轻人患有抑郁症和酗酒——尽管他在六个月前就已经清醒了,就业不足——尽管他在市场冷淡的时候设法买了房子(他去年卖掉了)。

    只对死者说好话,但他可能患有弗罗斯特先生指出的其他问题。 我确实认为他是作者所描述的更大力量的受害者。

    将此与我在工作中成为朋友的巴勒斯坦人形成对比。 仅在过去的 20 到 6 个月里,他就与至少 12 名女性上过床,此前他与一位他从渐进式学校认识的非常受欢迎的斯堪的纳维亚血统的年轻女性发生了关系。 他在约旦的父亲不同意,所以他目前正在他的祖国寻求包办婚姻,无论他在哪里。 (明白了吗?他没有家。)

    他的首选蜂蜜是一位有吸引力且经济独立的白人女性,她 2 多岁,有两个孩子,这些孩子来自以前与肤色较深的外国人的关系/婚姻。 尽管有一个十几岁的孩子住在外州。 对不起,他的 3/XNUMX 白人基督徒(背景)女性征服者的长期转移,但这有助于证明我的观点。 他征服的另外三分之一是拉丁/混合。 他对黑人女性没有兴趣。

    是时候进行一些自我盘点了。 我在 30 岁的时候认识了我的宝贝妈妈妻子,她 35 岁。在 30 多岁的女性稳定饮食后,我安定下来,最近我们有了第二个男孩。 她已经有了孩子,我不一定准备好将软木塞放入瓶子中。

    我的观点证实了 3 年前另一位评论员提出的统计数据,即 20 多岁的女性(假设 UNO 是白人)在过去十年中大约有 5-10 名持续认真的卵巢竞争者。 男孩会被拒之门外。 只有男性需要申请。

  236. Ruckus 说:
    @Anon

    是哪一组给了我们“我不需要任何人”这句话?

    是Asain Women吗? 西班牙裔男子? 白人妇女?

    请通知我们

  237. 嗯,我现在 61 岁。 当我 20 岁时,在马戏团里可以看到一只胖小妞。 我的目标范围内的女性都四十多岁了,她们仍然很瘦,我想瘦是一种终生的技能。 这些都不重要,你仍然需要有一些东西来吸引他们,无论老少。 金钱、长相或某种权力这三巨头是容易赚钱的。 其他是幽默,或有趣的东西。 培养其中之一,或者习惯独处。 父亲过去常常教他们的孩子这些东西,但一半或更多的男孩没有父亲。 但是在基层,不管怎样,在波士顿附近,大学和大学以及办公室里的年轻(对我来说,说 35-XNUMX 岁左右)的白人和西班牙裔女孩很大,她们病态肥胖,远远超过一半他们,不到百分之十又瘦又合身。 tweeners 从矮胖到肥胖。

    亚洲女性? 更瘦,但无一例外,如果他们在美国受过大学教育,他们就是 Sarah Jeong 或左右,不是一个漂亮的景象。 如果有甜美的亚洲小鸡,它们一定还在亚洲的某个地方。 在西方侵占的任何地方,亚洲女性都处于愤怒的女权主义废墟中,她们比白人小鸡更容易应对这种情况。

    黑人女性的通货如此之低、滥交、肥胖、破产、粗鲁和粗暴,我明白为什么任何身份、财富或权力的黑人都会尽快摆脱她们。 然而,我不时看到广告,白人男孩和黑人女孩。 给白人书呆子权限?

  238. 如果这里不好,想想中国:那个地方会飞得很高。

  239. 你说的真他妈的。

    这一点,

    “男性和女性的百分比分布非常相似; 然而,与被认定为男/女同性恋的女性 (1.8%) 相比,被认定为同性恋的男性 (1.4%) 的比例更高,被认定为双性恋的女性 (0.9%) 的比例高于男性 (0.4%)。 (CDCP,2014 年,第 5 页)”

    不是遗传学的错——你怎么敢说这种亵渎的话。 你说的真他妈的。 说不是这样

    说的不是。

    笑。

    不开玩笑,人们实际上会受到影响以某种方式行事和思考——我猜那些在 1960 年代就这一人口统计对年轻人思想的影响提出争论的讨厌的加利福尼亚基督徒——实际上是正确的。

  240. @Anon

    这家伙实际上认为黑人通常都有大阴茎。
    然后在同一个评论(巨魔?)他提到了泥鲨宣传。 一个宣传白痴谈论宣传的讽刺......

  241. @jamie B.

    阅读《理性男性》、《哈蒂斯特城堡》、《鲁什五世》

  242. L Woods 说:
    @whorefinder

    没有使用游戏的人声称他内心“真的”是一个阿尔法女士的男人类型;

    很明显,您最近没有浏览 RooshV 论坛或 Heartiste 评论。 他们确实相信自己的“自我提升”自动情色。

    • 回复: @Expletive Deleted
    , @Thea
  243. IstvanIN 说:

    恩里克·卡多瓦 说:
    2 年 2015 月 3 日,格林威治标准时间上午 02:800 • XNUMX 字

    与这些非洲船民相比,“同性恋”对欧洲人口下降的影响更大,无论如何,他们的总人数一直在下降。 这是因为:(a) 婚姻制度——生育和抚养孩子的最佳场所正在以一种破坏性的方式被重新定义,(b) 更多的同性恋将健康的年轻白人男性从生殖基因库中剔除,又增加了另一个钉子人口棺材。

    你假设男人可以“变成同性恋”,这是极不可能的(可能不可能),你要么是天生的同性恋,要么不是。 虽然重新定义婚姻在我看来不是一件好事,但它也不是我们人口下降的原因。 几十年来,正常的异性恋人口一直拒绝结婚,直到 30 岁以上,拒绝生育一个以上的孩子,基本上 拒绝长大. 更不用说我们国家的第三次世界入侵使我们成为我们自己土地上的外星人。

    我们遇到了敌人,他就是我们。

    • 回复: @anarchyst
    , @SaneClownPosse
  244. chris123 说:

    除了婚姻之外,移民也可能是一种选择。

    亚洲、南美和东欧国家如果提倡一夫一妻制和家庭价值观,以吸引在西方被剥夺性权利的高素质白人男性移民,以便拥有家庭.

  245. 更理智的国家已经将卖淫合法化,这甚至是辣妹埃莉诺·罗斯福 (Eleanor Roosevelt) 游说的。

  246. anarchyst 说:
    @IstvanIN

    我必须恭敬地不同意你的说法,即同性恋是与生俱来的,而不是“后天习得的”反应……迄今为止,还没有发现“同性恋基因”。
    同性恋者利用一个可怕的概念来通过“招募”性习惯并非“一成不变”的青春期前和青少年男性来维持他们的人数。 这些掠夺者被称为“鸡鹰派”,他们非常善于利用他们有缺陷的逻辑来让年轻人“同性恋”。
    一旦一个年幼的孩子或男人被“洗脑”接受同性恋的“生活方式”,他就很难摆脱这个标签。
    尽管“转化疗法”取得了成功,但由于来自同性恋游说团体的压力,它在某些州已被取缔。
    我拒绝使用“同性恋”一词来形容同性恋者。 同性恋没有什么“同性恋”……

  247. @Kyle McKenna

    白人女性也确实没有短缺,因为其他种族喜欢娶白人女性并生出浅棕色婴儿的想法。

  248. @Luke Lea

    我认为这些数字中的很多都被 MENA 人口普查类别的创建所扭曲,很高兴它被排除在 2020 年人口普查之外。

  249. M. Hartley 说:
    @Anon

    鉴于作者提到“录像带”是一种流行的选择,我有点想知道他实际上是如何“融入”当今世界的。

  250. BobInVA 说:

    弗罗斯特先生,我还没有通读这里的评论,所以也许有人已经解决了这个问题,但生育技术呢? 精英们似乎比任何人都快。 米歇尔奥巴马透露,他们的两个孩子都是试管婴儿出生的。 此外,埃隆马斯克还有五个儿子、双胞胎和三胞胎,这些孩子与他结婚几年的女人所生。 那可能是试管婴儿。 上次我读到美国试管婴儿出生的孩子数量有几百万。 女性将她们的卵子卖给生育诊所,购买者可以看到卖家年轻时的照片。 我最近也没有太多研究,但我看到的人造子宫的最后一次预测可能是二十年。 试管婴儿的数量是否超过了外国收养? 生育技术会取代通常的家庭形成策略,即婚姻吗? 如果生育技术可以给他们一个家庭,哪些男人会转向同性、外婚或其他任何事情? 这个选项可以在没有你(和我也是)希望看到的那种巨大的社会变化的情况下流行起来。 对不起,如果这是漫无边际的,但我认为它必须包含在这个讨论中。 数百万美国人的存在已经归功于生育技术。

  251. 一位女性的一些观察:

    所有男性似乎都想要相同的 25% 的女性。 有很多未婚女性,但如果你相信你在“游戏”专栏中读到的内容(并在现实生活中观察),她们会坐下来看着每个人似乎都想要 20 多岁的年轻、苗条、漂亮的女孩——没有孩子们。

    当你这样限制自己时,对于普通男人来说,你是在“不合时宜”——所以你最终失败了,然后责怪女性。 如果您专注于上述女性,那么您将成为他们挑选的人的可能性不大 - 但与此同时,您周围的女性可能是 42 到 35 岁,或者比您认为的多 20-30 磅或者有一个你不喜欢的鼻子或“男人的手”——或者他们可能离婚了,带着孩子……如果你把所有这些都写成“不受欢迎”,说实话,你的期望太高了。 如果你沉迷于色情片,尤其如此——女性看起来不像“色情明星”。

    除此之外,一旦女性越过 25 岁且充满爱心的坏男孩阶段,女性确实会在男性身上寻找其他品质,而不仅仅是外表和年龄。 他们寻求责任、安全和善良。 但是,就在他们为你做好准备的时候,他们现在不在“受欢迎的类别”之外——就在他们寻找“好人”的时候,“好人”是孤独的,因为他们没有不想“安定下来”。 他们经常顽固地坚持“必须拥有性感宝贝”的观点,即使他们已经老了。

    到了人生的这个阶段,女性往往非常渴望找到爱情,以至于她们看起来很需要——她们不是冷漠和难以得到的; 他们会打电话给你并要求聚在一起,这是男人逃避的另一件事,因为尽管他们自己可能有需要,但他们不希望有人作为表明自己需要的伴侣。 他们突然失去兴趣,说他们会打电话然后不,因为她没有挑战。 但随后他们会抱怨自己是一个“incel”——无论他们是否意识到,当他们选择这种生活而不是在周围的女性身上寻找积极品质时。

    那些说几个男人得到所有女人的男性并没有直视——而且奇怪的是,这正是女性的想法——少数(25%?)可用的女性被认为是“可接受的”,并得到了所有男性的关注。 也许被抛弃的人或“测试版的”或任何你想称他们的人,应该与他们的异性同行而不是寻求完美

  252. @Anon

    拥有大阴茎和强壮肌肉的非洲黑人男性

    对我来说肯定听起来像迷恋黑人男性

  253. @Tom_R

    嘿嘿......在那个年龄组和很多朋友一样的性行为中,我可以告诉你,不,可悲的是,我们没有5-10个男人追我们,也没有预订“约会”(很难找到) 3 个月。 有人的实地研究已经结束。

  254. @A_Guy

    有你去。 我的观点得到了证明。 女人在那里,但男人认为他们对可用的女人(“他们联盟中的”)来说太好了;因此,他们声称他们“无法接触”女人。 那是嚎叫。 考虑到女性无处不在,而不是被关在不允许男性进入的区域,是的,所有男性都可以“接触”女性。 如果你的意思是你不能得到你想要的女孩,那么,长大了。 这就是为什么随着人们成熟,他们不再想要“坏男孩”或“完美女孩”或任何刻板印象的原因。

    不,并非所有女性都想要“坏男孩”。 只有那些 18-25 岁左右的人……然后我们开始成长。 如果那是你的年龄组,请耐心等待——你的时间会来的,那些人会离婚并回到妈妈的地下室,而你在外面的世界。

    真的,尽管考虑到对女性的所有侮辱和所有声称她们不够好的理由,然后评论如何指出她们想要但得不到的 10% — 只是证明了我的观点。 有很多可用的女性。 (很多女性讨厌说唱,所以就暴徒文化破坏她们而言,你只是没有和合适的女孩交谈。)但是不,大多数男人不会获得前 10%(大多数女孩没有得到前 10%。)

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @A Non
  255. @jamie B.

    确实,获得未经过滤的事实而不是某人的意见的最佳方法是将其放入 DuckDuckGo 并添加一些修饰符,例如“获取女性”、“alpha beta 男性”等,然后从源头阅读。

  256. @Anonymous

    成为亲传统家庭有什么问题吗? 以为只有左边。 现在会传染给别人吗?

  257. @German_reader

    不能代表意大利,但作为美国的“社会保守派”,我可以告诉你,我们非常非常反对大规模移民。 我们为美国文化和我们的欧洲遗产感到非常自豪,不,我们尤其不支持非洲人的大规模移民,尽管 o-bama 确实尽力将他们(尤其是索马里人)交织在各个“白人”地方。 我们不认为他们是具有良好家庭价值观的宗教,而是无文明和无国籍的,通常是穆斯林,我们特别希望远离这里。

  258. Anon[282]• 免责声明 说:

    我认为你没有抓住重点。 MGTOW 是对疯狂情况的合乎逻辑的反应:当游戏被操纵时,你能做的最合乎逻辑的事情就是 不玩. 虽然很多人声称 MGTOW 是“厌女症”——但事实并非如此。 MGTOW 增长非常快,因为男人们正在觉醒并意识到 *在当前的文化氛围中* 人际关系几乎没有好处,但也有很多坏处。

    女权主义、MeToo、强奸和骚扰的诬告以及离婚法使风险远远高于回报。 A_Guy 误会的是,80% 的女性只认为 20% 的男性“可以接受”作为约会/婚姻材料——这是 WOMEN 声称大多数男性对他们“不够好”——而不是相反。 我认为这是“每个女孩都是一个 *公主* 并配得上王子——以及对男性的系统性攻击(最近看过一部电影或电视节目,有一个坚强、稳定、睿智的白人男性父亲?)此外,大多数女性认为传统角色是“压迫”。 他们不仅期望男人做他传统上所做的事情,而且还期望他下班回家并承担妻子的大部分传统任务。 在有两个养家糊口的家庭中,这是有道理的,但即使是呆在家里的女性也放弃了传统的家务/家庭制作角色。 是的,也有例外,但不是在千禧一代女性的行列中。 这就是为什么西方男人要出国寻找妻子。

    至于那些想要 18-25 岁的“坏男孩”然后“长大”的女性——好吧,为什么一个有自尊的男人会为一群男人免费得到的东西(没有承诺)付钱(结婚)? 传统上,女人把自己交给一个单身男人,作为回报她抚养他的孩子,他把她照顾到老年。 没有一个正常的男人想要一个浪费青春和美丽的女人,她会在……范围内与每个人交朋友。 当她的容貌和青春开始消退(也称为“撞墙”)时,她后来决定“安顿下来”。 伙计们不会为附近的荡妇“杀龙”。 你可能不喜欢这个想法,但这是真的。 就像女人不喜欢穷男人一样——她们喜欢有钱的男人(她们可以获得的资源)。

    我现在可以听到你声称“并非所有女人都这样”——这是真的(在任何特定时间点)但是,没有什么 预防 一个女人一时兴起变成那个可怕的人——大多数西方文化都颂扬那些诬告男人、在离婚法庭上撕裂丈夫、身体攻击男朋友(搜索“女人眼镜男人”)、通过离婚和再婚“交易”的女人以一个与机械丈夫离婚的女人嫁给那个百万富翁的 CEO 为例——女人一路上都在为她欢呼——“你走吧!”。 以一个为热瑜伽教练与矮胖妻子离婚的男人为例…… 他不仅会在离婚法庭上被强奸,而且在他的社交圈中也会成为贱民,任何女人发现都会因此恨他。

    否认这些事实是一种妄想,人们对正在发生的事情并非视而不见。

    另一方面,如果女性在她们想成为的时候没有被要求出去,那么我建议与其责怪男性,不如听取他们自己的一些建议和“男子气概”和 约一个人出去. 我们现在应该是平等的,不是吗?

  259. dc.sunsets 说:

    任何认为将男人“重新分配给女人”有效的人都是彻头彻尾的白痴。

    但我认为,承诺“他”“她”手术后的生活实际上承诺通过将沮丧的男人变成自杀式抑郁的太监来消除男性供过于求的问题。

    一个柔弱的男人可以变成一个“性感”的女人,这需要真正的想象力。

  260. @Anon

    大量拥有大阴茎和强壮肌肉的非洲黑人男子

    令人感兴趣。 是否可以查阅您用于得出此观察结果的公共数据库? 求一个朋友。

    • 回复: @Daniel Chieh
  261. Anonymous [又名“不是狐狸”] 说:
    @Political and Psychological Junkie

    绝对的废话,你的所有评论。

    如今,女性的自我价值严重过度膨胀。 如果你不是绝对的负荷或可能被误认为是男模特你是隐形的。 我知道我的面部不吸引人,但其他方面很健康,而且我一直有中产阶级收入,即使在年轻时也是如此。

    我已经很清楚我不够好,我的鼻子揉到了我不再烦恼的地步。

    • 回复: @Negrolphin Pool
  262. @Anon

    是的,他们应该在世界上从事伐木工人、牛夫、水手、机车司炉、煤矿工人的工作……哦等等。

    我是涡轮增压器。 婴儿潮一代让我厌恶。 由于与生俱来的“品质”和“勤奋”,他们认为自己在原地踏步的卷心菜。 当他们吐出自鸣得意的牛肚时,最后一个有时让我笑出声来。 我记得我们过去常吃的那些 2 小时、3 品脱和一包 John Player 的“午餐”; 每周 35 小时,在 4.30-5.00 点下班,几乎没有周日工作。 不要否认。

  263. @L Woods

    显然你最近没有浏览 RooshV 论坛或 Heartiste 评论

    Roosh 在过去几周已经完全信奉东正教,并且正在放弃。 可能击中了相当于墙的家伙,需要锁定 Slav 4 0r 6。说他要拉出所有退化的内容。 也许。

    几周前,WordPress 将 Heartiste 发送到 101 房间。 他一直是一个非常顽皮的男孩,首先拉皮条的是 Roosh 的一个提议的肉类空间会议,然后温和地从沃尔沃的通婚“广告”中获得了成功。 WP的赞助商。
    如果您挖掘,档案或其中的一部分在 Wayback Machine 和其他一些地方。

    至于汽车情色。 那些先生们说得很清楚,游戏只是女性化妆的男性版本。
    伪造更高的性市场价值,直到它成为您日常生活的一部分。 棒状,就像5层粉底霜。

    这完全是兽性的 因为 它是为女性量身定做的。
    与自然界一样,占主导地位的雄性获得生殖权利。 所以假装一些身份,男孩,或者“隐形”。 并准备战斗(我希望我能长出一些转基因鹿角,那太疯狂了。我已经加了重)。
    女性只需要假装更光滑的外套和更湿润的鼻子。 没那么难,使用一堆化学和矿物粘液。

  264. @Anonymous

    单身母亲正在将她们的男性后代女性化,并将她们的女儿男性化/女性化。

    更糟糕的是,只有女儿的父亲。 他们把他们变成了代孕儿子。 “公主就是要统治世界!”。 “没有朋克男孩对 Pwincess 来说足够好!”。
    或许他们隐约意识到他们的无睾酮血统实际上是“脱胎换骨”,只有竞争对手的血统才能继承未来 作为男人. 正义要求他们的 Pwincesses 成熟为盒装酒和中级小隔间的职业生涯,“永远不要安定下来”,直到时间用完他们。 猫跑进来了。优生学实现了。

  265. @Anonymous

    日本男性实际上被西方女性所吸引,但又不敢采取任何行动。 亚洲的西方女性就像外籍人士的詹妮弗安妮斯顿。

    好找! 现在这就是我所说的 应付!
    难道只是日本男人觉得欧洲女人有点恶心吗?
    大脚怪,还有体毛和大鼻子。 然后是一个小问题 啊哈 体味。

    没有人喜欢被一个脾气暴躁、独立、固执己见的人强悍、过分、挣钱、喝醉和大喊大叫 不女性化 女孩。 如果你是一个普通人,想象一下和威廉姆斯的妹妹约会。

    (刚刚在作品的底部看到了 Reannon 的照片。我可以看到日本人可能注意到了什么。4-5/10WNB;恶心的头发,奇怪的 Joni Mitchell 类型的牙齿,我是一个看过并做过一些的老 NW Euro他那个时代的硬东西(英国渣,这就是我们所拥有的。一些评论是金的。)

    • 同意: Chinaman
  266. anonymous[191]• 免责声明 说:
    @Tom_R

    我无法反驳你的统计数据,因为幸运的是我没有住在有大量 groids 或墨西哥人的地区。 然而,我可以根据我回顾高中年鉴时的记忆进行观察。 我想说,在我毕业的 70 年代后期,大约 20% 的女性是我认为有吸引力的。 这是一个 95% 的白人毕业班。 今天,我看看那个年龄的白人女性,我会说大约 2% 是有吸引力的。 那些可能很有吸引力的是 300 磅,上面覆盖着纹身。 就连那几位苗条的人,都还布满了纹身。 如果我今天是一个年轻人,我会被我一直排斥的女性、不良态度、纹身和肥胖所排斥的东西所排斥。 我要么保持单身,要么从海外找一个白人女性。 我不会打扰这里的女人。

  267. anonymous[191]• 免责声明 说:
    @JSM

    我不知道你是什么种族,但如果你是白人,你不应该担心“有天赋的”黑人或“有天赋的”黑人是否会生育或结婚。 这不是白人时期关心的问题。 我们不应该为他们做任何事情,绝对不应该嫁给他们。

  268. anonymous[191]• 免责声明 说:
    @Simon in London

    “非常英俊、健谈的黑人”

    我的帅和你的想法很不一样。

  269. anonymous[191]• 免责声明 说:
    @BAPPY

    将男人分为 alpha 和 beta 类型是愚蠢且智力上的懒惰。 这里似乎有一种错误的思维方式,认为所有的科学家、店主和会计师都是贝塔,因此他们不适合统治,因为他们胆小和软弱。 阿尔法男性是我们的运动员,绿色贝雷帽和海豹是男子气概,适合统治。 没有人是完全的 beta 或 alpha 或 gamma,个性特征是多变且高度复杂的,不适合归类。 我认识的两位博士,一位是物理学家,一位是数学教授,他们彬彬有礼,有些人会称之为“胆小”,但他们是臭名昭著的好色之徒,并且与许多女性生了孩子。 我认识的另一个男人身材魁梧,有着足球运动员般的体格,但曾在重工业和办公室里与女性一起工作,但他是一个举止温和的家庭型男人。

    • 回复: @Negrolphin Pool
    , @Yea lol
  270. @Priss Factor

    坦率地说,由于现代社会女性素质低下,许多男性正在转向在线形式的刺激。 通过在线刺激,您可以立即找到您想要的东西,然后您就大功告成了。 没有意外怀孕或担心因离婚而失去大部分辛勤工作,不用担心性病或有关使用妓女的法律问题。

    我们可以感谢现代社会对现代男性的行为。 他们准确地评估了现代社会追求女性的内在风险,并决定减轻这些风险的最佳方法是在线刺激。

    毕竟,在网上肯定不会缺少愿意为几谢克尔/芬尼/美元做任何事情的女性。

  271. Anonymous[191]• 免责声明 说:
    @Simon in London

    “因为黑人在贫困社区中更强大,而且往往暴力,”

    我不明白有这么多美国人认为黑人比白人强壮的信念。 我想它来自无休止地观看 NFL 和 NBA 比赛。

    你将攻击性和无思想的冲动行为与力量混为一谈。 这与黑人无法看到其行为的后果有关。 黑人的大部分行为都是试图让你相信他很强壮,但如果归结为一对一的战斗,他们通常会变成懦夫。 黑人在人数上很有实力,带走他的支持者的人群,他十有八九会跑。

    • 回复: @anonymous
    , @option one
  272. anonymous[191]• 免责声明 说:
    @Jay Fink

    你是犹太人,所以你有谢克尔,别的什么都不需要说。 他们的母亲告诉他们“世上没有丑陋的富人”。

  273. @JSM

    这样一个认知两极分化的社会可能不是一个白痴,而是一个直截了当的暴政。 我想它会类似于危地马拉的某种排列。

    当然,据我所知,危地马拉人为人类的成就做出了贡献, 梅诺斯德纳达.

  274. @JayMan

    我将阅读您关于优生生育趋势的文章。 在不熟悉数据的情况下,智商较高的男性在 SMP 成功方面取得更大的成功将是先验的不足为奇,因为智力与健康指标(即外貌)相关。 Looks 是有用的性市场价值启发式 Looks、Money、Status 或 LMS 中的 L。

    然而,有强有力的证据表明,在线约会的出现正在扭曲上述规则,强烈支持外表。 虽然外表可能与智力有广泛的相关性,但这种关系远非紧密。 这意味着在做出类似的声明时,恕我直言谨慎

    如果处于底层的男性被排除在伴侣市场之外,也许这不是一件坏事

    因为我们可能不再玩一个理性的人会受其规则约束的游戏。 根据定义,任何有意义的竞赛中的底层参与者都将被排除在外。 但是那些统治地狱的人并没有因此被判定为明智。

    那些能够或不会登上 Pandaemonium 最黑暗高度的人也不应该被视为不适合并被淘汰。

  275. @George

    我一直认为游戏可能最适合高智商和反社会人格的男性。 这些人具有自律性,可以指导、塑造和维持自己的行为,同时具有天生的无情,可以轻松地应用核心游戏概念。

    对于得分 15-20+ 的人 PCLR, 运行完整的 badboy 程序实际上只是打开几个拨号而不是安装新设备的问题。

  276. @Luke Lea

    有趣的是,在过去几年里,我所在的领域出现了一个急剧上升的趋势,这些白人女孩本来就很有吸引力,而且青春期的白人女孩与暴徒们大吵大闹。

  277. @Cpluskx

    我可能错了,但我认为这种不平衡主要是由于女性与男性享有平等权利(这不是坏事)并且在经济上自给自足。

    根据其自身的逻辑,您的括号值分配是有问题的。

    女性的自然状态是财产状态。 有一些警告,但它们对于这里的目的并不重要。 女性是有价值的东西,必须保护或失去。 总的来说,妇女缺乏有组织的暴力能力,因此没有自卫能力。 也有例外,但它们只是为了突出规则。 除了大约 10 人的小组规模之外,在与类似选择的男性小组的任何元帅比赛中,没有任何女性分组会站得住脚。

    在原始社会,女性的所有权由特定的男性持有,无论是群体还是个人。 在先进社会,妇女的所有权被转移到国家。 但是,一旦国家崩溃,我们就会看到所有权归还给个人。

    在失败的州中,普遍存在的性奴役现象最能说明这一点,在这种情况下,该州的心腹,他们以前借出必要的力量来阻止女性回到自然状态,而是决定让当地军阀最好地照顾他们的命运。

    如果没有国家的长臂来保护她们,这种女性的地位就会恢复为特定男性或男性群体的字面财产。 这是自然秩序,只能通过不断、高效和大量消耗资源的干草叉来推动。

    女性经济赋权的问题以及由此导致的性市场的极端帕累托倾斜是它直接破坏了将这些女性提升到动产水平之上的状态。

    没有组建家庭前景的男性 不采取措施 绝对需要发达经济体的生产公民,使其税基挨饿。 但这些男人也有可能 自然 采用补偿机制,最大限度地实现生物学不可侵犯的指令。 在具有类似海地基尼系数的性市场中,通过努力或选择,S 在看起来金钱状态中将有很多最大化,而对文明没有有益的影响。

    这里埋藏着一个同义反复的反馈循环:随着性市场变得类似于原始化规范,维持原始现状的相同选择压力开始占据主导地位。 这些选择压力然后倾向于选择在其限制范围内最成功的特征,这些特征往往是那些有利于早期环境的特征。

    10,000 年前,也许在底格里斯河沿岸的某个地方,人类迈出了第一步,朝着完全征服他的环境的方向迈出了第一步。 12 千年正在酝酿中,结局能否以年衡量?

    当科马克麦卡锡说男人的中午表情标志着他的夜晚开始时,他可能只是在性别上犯了错误。

  278. Anonymous [又名“派克”] 说:
    @Anonymous

    “越来越多的单身男人保持这种状态,因为他们理性地认为在当今社会结婚是愚蠢的。 他们看着今天的女人,根本不想和她们结婚。”

    同意。 我一直惊讶于这样的研究(我读过一些)似乎从未考虑过女权平等和离婚法的社会影响。 这是第一代能够使用社交媒体很好地了解离婚和子女监护权法如何摧毁男性的男性,他们看到他们的许多父亲都经历过这种情况。

    与其问今天的男性为什么不这样做,不如问他们为什么应该这样做更合适。 最好走自己的路。

    • 同意: atlantis_dweller
  279. Thea 说:
    @L Woods

    Roosh 曾经说过,要学会让女人跟你说话,最重要的一句是“你好”。 他似乎明白游戏的本质是帮助内向的人变得更加外向,或者至少在社交场合少一点焦虑。

    他必须卖书,所以他给它调味。 想要10点上床睡觉的普通但孤独的男人不是一个小观众。 因此他妄想的论坛海报。

  280. @Expletive Deleted

    一般来说,黑人比白人具有更高的骨矿物质密度和身体蛋白质含量,从而导致更高的无脂肪身体密度。

    https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/6/1392/4729362

    • 回复: @Violetta
  281. @Lion of the Judah-sphere

    游戏充其量只会在一个人的性互动中产生表面上的变化; 一种错觉,如果你愿意的话。

    对于大多数人来说,我不同意这种情况。 当然,如果你的心理特征使你处于正常的边缘(“平均”),那么游戏衍生的部分重新调整仍然没有什么帮助。
    当然,害羞笨拙的人不会成为好色之徒或世界上女人的首选。
    但是,许多女人积极不喜欢男人的夫妇可能会变成女人既不喜欢也不喜欢他的关系。

    所以游戏,就像所有出售的东西一样,并不是对每个人都有帮助,而且是部分幻觉,但不完全是这样。

  282. Anon[226]• 免责声明 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    一些年轻男人的一个大问题是对“漂亮”女性的不切实际的期望和需求,以及所有这些焦虑和沮丧,因为他们无法获得他们认为“应得”的东西,就这些“漂亮”女性而言.

    好吧,女性要挑剔得多(正如“进化”定律所预测的那样),并且更常见地从事您指出的那种行为。
    甚至有统计数据显示,在接受民意调查时,多达 80% 的男性将女性评为“低于平均水平”,而将 50% 的女性评为“低于平均水平”。

  283. Anon[226]• 免责声明 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    毫无疑问,“行为恶劣”的女性群体中更具吸引力的那部分人——即,就像那些碰巧比周围其他人拥有更多议价能力的人一样。

  284. Anon[226]• 免责声明 说:
    @Enrique Cardova

    有人想知道为什么许多上层甚至中层的女性忍受这种虐待,然后感叹“好男人的短缺”。 是否存在如此严重的短缺,或者是否存在女性拒绝更体贴的男性的情况,因为他们不够富有,不够高,不够时尚,或者其他什么 - 一次又一次地与相同的混蛋类型挂钩? 我想知道今天的一些年轻人是否因为厌倦了看到这种情况重复出现而更加走自己的路。

    https://blackdragonblog.com/2016/12/01/men-dont-understand-female-attraction/ (整个博客,连同 TheRationalMale,将阐明你的这些疑虑。不过,准备好被剥夺对女性的许多幻想,并冒着风险继续前进)。

  285. Anon[226]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    女人在外貌上的选择更加挑剔。 我不明白男人比女人更看重外表的荒谬说法从何而来。 实际上是相反的。 只要看看任何约会网站。

    好吧,我们生活在一种女性至上的文化中,在这种文化中,任何主流都偏向于女性,如果一个人以自己的想法看待事物,那么明显的事情就很少发生逆转。
    事实是,在我看来,女性非常有选择性 最划算,外观部门包括,因为,把它说成达尔文风格,他们的卵在交配市场上比雄性种子更有价值。

    另一个事实——一个有偏见的评论者可能会打扮得比实际情况更重要,从而否认上面的第 1) 点——是男性在评估女性价值时几乎只关注外表。
    他们仍然不那么挑剔,但如果外表在女人的心目中占 70% 的份额,那么他们在男人的心智中将有 90% 的份额。

  286. anonymous[429]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    我不明白有这么多美国人认为黑人比白人强壮的信念。 我想它来自无休止地观看 NFL 和 NBA 比赛。

    这是因为他们的皮肤下面的脂肪较少,所以他们的肌肉看起来更大更强壮。

    出于某种原因,世界上最强壮的人比赛绝大多数都是白人……

  287. Truth 说:

    是的……如果混凝土爬上坡道,兄弟们宁愿踢足球也不愿提水壶。

  288. 你在病态上不成熟,也许只是一个不安的个性在推特上发布你的身份。 请不要繁殖。

  289. threestars 说:

    西班牙裔白人夫妇约占 [所有外婚] 的十分之四 (41%); 亚裔白人夫妇占 15%; 白人和黑人夫妇占 11%.

    这是作者提供的两项研究中的一项得出的结论,以及白人与西班牙裔通婚在两性之间并没有出现任何明显程度的偏差。

    因此,鉴于白人亚洲夫妇由白人男性和亚洲女性组成,几乎与白人和黑人配对的比例几乎相同,那么这些数据究竟如何表明“白人女性的婚姻更多”?

    除了热衷于抨击女性以致无视他自己提供的实际数据的manospherist之外,其他任何人都不会这样做。

  290. Violetta 说:
    @Daniel Chieh

    任何在 2000 年(目前基因分析的黄金时代)之后仍谈论“黑人”和“白人”的生物医学界人士都是先天从事不良科学的人。 重要的是特定的单倍群,特别是考虑到美国和南美人口中欧洲人的高度混合。 黑人(回到白话文)可以在跳跃和短跑等快肌活动中表现出色,而他们几乎完全缺席高级别力量比赛(奥运会和举重,强人型赛事),经验表明绝对力量似乎并不成为他们的强项。

  291. Anonymous [又名“Mike42Night”] 说:
    @Lion of the Judah-sphere

    本文中所述的游戏只是一系列技巧(从提升你的外表到增加你的可爱度。)让自己对异性更有吸引力和吸引力。
    完成正确的游戏可以增加现有的唤醒但不会创造它。
    很惊讶作者没有提到整形手术。

  292. Logan 说:
    @Kamran

    这是什么时候大规模发生的?

    从 800(或更早)到至少 1800 甚至 1900。

    维京经济的很大一部分是奴隶,有吸引力的白人女性最有价值,主要卖给哈里发和其他伊斯兰国家。 然后德国人、马扎尔人、鞑靼人以及土耳其人(以及许多其他人)在巴尔干半岛和东欧猛烈袭击了大约 1000 年。

    毕竟,在几乎所有的欧洲语言中,奴隶这个词都来自斯拉夫语。

    此外,在 1200 或 1300 年的大部分时间里,各种穆斯林团体袭击了地中海各地的白人。 作为性奴隶的白人女性作为商品一直很受欢迎。

  293. Sunshine 说:
    @Koy

    如果我和一个想要我和黑人睡觉的白人在一起,我会离开他。 真恶心而且这并不普遍,大多数白人男人不想要一个和黑人睡过的女人。 “一旦你变黑,我们就不要你回来”不仅仅是一句聪明的话。 他们是这个意思。 我从来没有对非白人感兴趣,我对兽交不感兴趣,对任何这样的人都不感兴趣,或者任何对我的重视程度如此之低以至于他希望我与野蛮人躺在一起的人。 多么卑鄙。 如果一个男人看着我或和我说话,我丈夫就会被激怒,这就是应该的。 如果你的男人对你没有热情,为什么要浪费你的时间? 同意这一点的女性会怎么想? 啊。

    • 回复: @Truth
  294. Truth 说:
    @Sunshine

    如果你的丈夫想让你和一群大瑞典维京人睡觉怎么办……你会说HELLS YEAH!!?

  295. animalogic 说:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    如果我不得不猜测(强调“猜测”)最痴迷于性的男性类型,我不得不说:印度人(即亚洲人)。 紧随其后的是阿拉伯人。 我自己也看过,还和女人聊过。 这些家伙有一种“吓唬”女性的倾向……

  296. Pericles 说:
    @SFG

    法国贵族、普鲁士容克人,以及像科尔特斯和他的骑士这样的人,根据时代的不同,靠大量的农民或工厂工人和文员为生。 他们从未超过人口的 10% 左右。

    我记得有一次读到,在法国大革命时期,贵族已经膨胀到了总人口的 3%。

  297. @JayMan

    这是什么时候写的? 录像带? 妈妈的地下室门还锁着?

  298. @Luke Lea

    显然,你不在沃尔玛购物。

  299. @German_reader

    我猜可能是不存在的社会结构的影响

  300. @anonymous

    你忘了给他们的脸打分。

    Voxday 的 Alpha>Bravo>Delta>Gamma>Omega 与额外的 Sigma 类别可能提供了足够的粒度,可能至少与 DSM V 中的任何内容一样有效。我想每个类别都可以进行因子分析并建立诊断标准。

    每个人在该量表上的位置都会因情况而异。 但是每个人都会有一个平均值,而且大多数人会完全保持在一个类别中。 即使作为一个粗略的启发式方法,VDs 系统也有可靠的实际应用,包括预测能力,它可能已经与 DSM 中的大多数列表相提并论。

  301. @Anonymous

    30 percent 年轻人 目前承认去年没有发生过性行为. 这是惊人的,因为众所周知,当被要求在调查中重述他们的性经历时,男性往往会夸大他们的性经历。 它也可能只是部分地反映了当今低得多的结婚率。

    如果我们将性比率可视化为性市场价值的代表,那么底层 30% 的男性完全被排除在外,30 到 50 或 55 的百分位数可能不会做得更好。 我找不到可靠的统计数据,但现在男性的初婚年龄中位数是 30 岁。考虑到离婚率,这意味着超过一半的 18-40 岁男性未婚。 虽然其中许多人可能不会永远单身,但许多人会忍受长时间的干旱。

    至少,可以肯定地说,一半的美国年轻男性在不同程度上存在性饥饿,几乎没有满足感。 考虑到即使是同居关系的转瞬即逝,即使是那些更上一层楼的人,高达 80% 甚至 90% 的人,也可能只经历已婚祖父视为与生俱来的权利的性频率的一小部分。

    对这些人来说,华盛顿的老鼠轮税收发电机的刺耳旋转可能不会悦耳地歌唱,他们不解的渴望有一天可能会助长大火。

    • 回复: @Anonymousse
  302. 男性害羞不是病态。 这是对重视一夫一妻制和高父系投资同时污名化性冒险主义的社会环境的适应。

    取决于你如何定义病理。 这绝对是对聚集风暴的适应不良。 西方驯服和吃草的天性绝对是一种负担。

  303. Patricus 说:
    @jay-w

    可以在几个小时内教授 AK-47 的现场剥离。 刺刀熟练度可能需要几天时间。 当需要这些技能时,我们将很快拥有人力。

    • 回复: @SaneClownPosse
  304. Rdm 说:
    @Anon

    如果你进一步深入研究那些黑白色的驼峰制片人,你不会惊讶地发现犹太人正在控制生产。

  305. Banjo 说:

    男性和单身都很棒,无论年轻还是年老。 接受教育买个小房子。 有一份好工作,没有开支,没有孩子,没有抵押贷款。 可以随时辞职。 花时间旅行,健身奇钩。 对我来说,这样的生活是伟大的。 谢天谢地,我知道孤独的心需要那个不变的伙伴,而不是我。 😀

  306. 不是“普遍的女性”仇恨者,但女性中的婊子比例也变得更高了。 一个地方的女性多于男性,但有多少人不是长期异性恋关系的可行人选,这对男性来说不是地狱?

    有孩子的妇女确实需要谨慎。 成为父亲形象会使从恶化的关系中解脱出来变得更加困难。 你如何向一个年幼的孩子解释你要离开他们的生活,因为他们的妈妈开始表现出对挂钩的兴趣。

  307. @Patricus

    将需要 FMJ 新兵训练营来将 globohomo 赶出年轻人。

    反对 13 年的女性主义 K-12 灌输。 再增加四年的马克思主义女权主义研究。

    但是,如果人口控制是重点,那么大规模死亡才是你想要的,输赢不是重点。 漫长的磨砺。

    给每个其他孩子一把步枪,给下一个孩子一本完整的杂志。 如果他们不继续前进,就射击他们。 斯大林消灭蒙古人,希特勒杀死德国白人。

    但是 MICC 不会因为只出售一半的武器而获利。 国际贷款人需要向各方贷款。

    或者发动一场战争,在那里你以失败告终,然后退回到坚固的基地。 允许敌人在该地区再次集结。 流血。 冲洗。 重复。

  308. @IstvanIN

    天生的同性恋,一切都是异性恋偏离文化规范的结果。

  309. A Non 说:
    @Political and Psychological Junkie

    从肥胖女性的角度来看,这些见解是完全正确的。

  310. @Anonymousse

    看来他们仍在试图将牙膏放回管中。

  311. Yea lol 说:

    对不再存在的环境的社会适应只是当今选择的适应不良。 让绵羊繁衍过多,把狮子送死在战争中不断导致这种垃圾。 我们可以感谢我们的祖先认为所有失败者都应该拥有妻子和投票权。

  312. Yea lol 说:
    @anonymous

    饶了我这个 BS。 真正的科学家是阿尔法,因为他们会无情地摧毁同龄人追求真理的想法。 商人无情地将他们的想法变为现实,他们会成功。 阿尔法并不意味着成为一个不礼貌的暴徒,它意味着拥有一个内在的价值来源,并且想要让世界随心所欲。 女性也是这个世界的一部分。

  313. 我会建议这些人停止玩电子游戏和上网。

    “游戏”不是答案,但生活在现实世界中是必不可少的。

  314. 先生们,我很抱歉成为坏消息的承载者,但作为一个在拉丁美洲和美国的文明地区度过了很多时间的人,我可以保证这个问题根本不是美国独有的。

  315. 他妈的。

    在 Makeout Creek 埋葬我的心。

  316. ssohara 说:
    @Stealth

    我认识一个白人,他目前正在和一个黑人女孩订婚。 我和他约会过几次(我是美国人,但我的父母来自印度)但没有发现他的浪漫魅力。 然而,我们每个人都很喜欢,有很多共同的兴趣,所以我们一直是朋友。

    然后他约会了一个白人女孩。 当我邀请他(以及其他几个人)参加一个活动时,她和我也成了朋友。 他出现了他的约会对象,她和我一拍即合。 他们分手是因为她也喜欢他作为朋友,但没有发现他的浪漫魅力。 她目前正在和一个比她小几岁的白人男子约会。

    然后他开始和一个黑人女孩在一起。 问题——黑人女孩有很多问题。 她来自一个破碎的家庭,我发现她的道德令人震惊。

    黑人女孩很快就和他睡了,但这不是我和她的问题。

    令我震惊的是,她似乎并不关心她的儿子。 她有一个10岁的孩子。 仅约会 3 次后,她就将他介绍给了我的朋友。 她把他一个人留在家里过夜,和我的朋友过夜。

    我认为如果你有一个孩子,那么你必须把他的需求放在你自己的性满足之前。 在您彻底审查这个人之前,您不会介绍您的孩子。 你必须保证你孩子的安全。 最后,不要整夜把孩子一个人留在家里! 那是错误的!

    我对这个黑人女性的其他问题——她真的很情绪化和缺乏安全感。 她很有统治力。

    过去我和朋友聚在一起的时候,当我们打招呼和再见时,我们会拥抱。 这只是朋友之间的一种简单的爱的姿态。 但现在和这个黑人女孩约会,他似乎害怕拥抱他的女性朋友。 他也不断地向她道歉。

    我目前与一个德国人有关系。 如果他做了我不喜欢的事情,我要么忽略它(如果是小事),要么我们冷静地讨论。 我们从不提高声音或发脾气。 我认为这是幼稚的行为。 我的意思是,我在十几岁的时候做过那种事,但现在我是成年人了。 如果我的男朋友用拥抱来问候朋友,那很好。 我不控制他,就像他不控制我一样。 我们彼此相爱,但更重要的是我们彼此尊重。

    我不认为自己是种族主义者。 我有两个亲密的黑人朋友,他们是真正的好人。 但是,我不会和黑人约会。

    在大学里,我确实和黑人出去过几次。 每次我发现他们真的很咄咄逼人。 他们马上就想要发生性关系,而我正在等待结婚。

    我发现其他种族要尊重得多。 我约会过印度人、白人男性、西班牙人、犹太人、亚洲人……一旦他们知道分数,他们要么接受它,要么继续和其他女性约会,但他们并没有继续追求性。

    我不想用粗笔画整个组,但这是我的经验。

    然而,并不是所有的黑人女性都像我朋友的女朋友。 我认为关键是家庭背景。 如果女孩(或男孩)来自破碎的家庭,则更有可能出现功能失调的行为……

  317. chris123 说:

    一个解决方案是移民。 \$1 000 000 美元更像是 \$10 000 000-20 000 000 是东欧、南美和亚洲较贫穷的国家。

    你可以移民到这些国家之一,用你的财富嫁给一个 20 岁的少女。 更好的前景是努力建立你的社会经济地位,只是为了奖励一个三十多岁的性经验丰富的女性。

  318. @Luke Lea

    如果您住在加利福尼亚,那么 50% 的约会市场是拉丁裔。

  319. option one 说:
    @Anonymous

    请允许我进一步解释......

    黑人(纯非洲人)的臀部结构较窄,四肢较长,通常最适合大多数球类运动所依赖的运动(例如快速奔跑和跳跃)…………但是从纯力量的角度来看,他们并不等于白人男性。

    白人男性的骨盆更大,力量所在的位置是……..例如硬拉和深蹲……

    在 NFL 的防守中,速度是重中之重……即使是 Dline 的速度也比力量更重要…………因此在 NFL 中高达 90% 的防守都是黑人占据了这些位置。

    在 NFL 中,力量优先于速度的唯一地方是 Oline…………而在那些位置上,白人占主导地位…………..即使 NFL 总体上是 68% 的黑人,Oline 也是 65% 的白人……..

    此外,如果你看到最强壮的人比赛,你很少会看到黑人........奥林匹克举重(黑人举重运动员马克亨利是一个令人失望的炒作)并且举重由白人主导。

    黑人往往有更好的定义(皮肤和肌肉之间的脂肪含量较少),这使他们即使在可能被误认为是力量的瘦弱的情况下,也显得更加肌肉发达……。

    至于战斗?……。黑人传统的班图战士将无法与维京人匹敌。

    当然,这些是对大量种族人口的概括........因为总是有例外......。

  320. Aft 说:
    @JayMan

    据记载,在过去的一个世纪里,有 10-25% 的男性未能生育。 假设这些是基因负担最重的男性(一个安全的假设),这对人口的健康可能是一件好事。

    杰曼指出了这一点。 在生育年龄之前,死亡率几乎可以忽略不计的水平上的选择非常宽松(历史上前所未有,即使是在古代文明的高度),甚至在养家糊口的能力方面的预选也可以忽略不计,以及发育不良的女性生育能力,这是在男性层面对下一代有一些过滤器并不是一件坏事。

  321. Aft 说:
    @Kyle McKenna

    (明显高于平均水平的高智商)

  322. Aft 说:
    @Peter Frost

    我们正在创造一种大多数正常男性,尤其是白人和东亚人无法理解的超男性文化。 当甚至父母开始将这种错误的男子气概观念内化时,我会感到困扰。

    你能不能再脱离现实一点? 美国有一个完全女性化的文化,没有男性化的榜样,大豆和内分泌干扰物破坏了当代男性(同时他们采取了弱测试策略,希望这会让他们受到女性的喜爱)。

    而你提到的“游戏”大约已经过时了十年。 Heartiste、Rollo 等(人们实际阅读的那些)都是关于建议男人不要被离婚强奸,不要成为测试版,不要专注于跳舞猴子风格的游戏。

  323. 这种饮食不推荐给有甲状腺​​问题(甲状腺功能亢进或甲状腺功能减退症)的人。
    如果您对阿司匹林或任何其他抗炎药过敏,请不要这样做。 黄瓜含有天然抗炎剂,过量食用会伤害您。
    过量食用黄瓜会加重口腔过敏症状,过敏反应表现为口腔、舌头和喉咙。
    像任何“即时”减肥饮食一样,如果您不遵循均衡的饮食计划,它的影响是暂时的。 要想减肥不反弹,你需要长期改变习惯。
    吃黄瓜的理由

    https://foodandnutritiontips.com/floraspring/

  324. @Priss Factor

    <welll i think females lovea guys to have nice big penie prefer him to be able to be himiliated in front of groups of ladies, girls want control of males sexually domestically and fertillaly if he is up to breeding quality or spend his life as a Eunice seving woman .times have changed and boys no that girls hsve a nice firm grip on there balls.

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