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已经宣布自己是 2020 年党内总统候选人提名的民主党人阵容非常出色,这仅仅是因为有这么多想要的人在这个过程中这么早就投了赞成票。 然而,就可选举性而言,人们很可能将寻求该国最高职位的寻求者称为九个小矮人。 四名潜在候选人——作家玛丽安·威廉姆森、企业家杨安泽、前奥巴马官员朱利安·卡斯特罗、参议员艾米·克洛布查和国会议员约翰·德莱尼——根本没有国家形象,在民主党的普通人中也很少。将能够详细说明他们是谁,他们来自哪里,以及他们在关键问题上的立场可能是什么。

马萨诸塞州参议员伊丽莎白沃伦拥有全国性的追随者,但她也有相当多的包袱。 最近的爆料是她 错误地描述了自己 早在 1986 年,出于职业发展的目的,作为“美洲印第安人”,这是在她第一次参与国家政治时出现的更多相同以及其他简历增强的类似报道之上,促使唐纳德特朗普提到她被称为“风中奇缘”。 沃伦在社会和国内问题上基本上是进步的,她曾多次就她对以色列/巴勒斯坦的看法提出质疑,而在宣称她支持“两国解决方案”之外,她一直有些沉默。 由于通常的原因,她应该被描述为亲以色列,而不是可靠的反战。 她给人的印象是希拉里·克林顿的一个更自由的版本。

然后是新泽西州参议员科里·布克,被吹捧为“新奥巴马”,大概是因为他既是黑人又是进步主义者。 他作为新泽西州纽瓦克市市长的记录,在全国舞台上开启了他的职业生涯,有高潮也有低谷,美国是否准备好迎接另一位说话圆滑的黑人政治家,但他的实际成就记录很少,这是值得质疑的边。 不幸的是,人们回想起狡猾的奥巴马完全伪造的诺贝尔和平奖,以及他周二早上与约翰布伦南会面,以制定将被暗杀的美国人名单。

布克在他的政治生涯中精心培养了犹太社区,包括与令人反胃的“美国拉比”什穆利·博蒂奇的密切关系,但最近变得更加独立于这些关系,支持奥巴马与伊朗的协议并投票反对反犹太教。参议院的抵制、撤资和制裁 (BDS) 立法。 不利的一面是,《纽约时报》喜欢布克,这意味着他会让大多数其他美国人望而却步。 他也是 49 岁,未婚,这显然让一些权威人士感到困扰。

加利福尼亚州参议员卡玛拉·哈里斯因其履历而成为进入拥挤领域的强大进入者,在大多数问题上名义上是进步的,但她的工作经历引起了批评,因为她在担任地方检察官时的强硬法律和秩序执行政策旧金山总检察长和加利福尼亚总检察长。 她还有 在 AIPAC 演讲,是反 BDS,并且被认为是可靠的亲以色列,这将把她排除在某些人之外,尽管她可能会吸引像克林顿夫妇和南希佩洛西这样越来越成为战争倡导者的中间派民主党人。 她将很难让反战人群相信她值得支持,而且有报道称,即使她自己是黑人,她也可能会分裂黑人女性的选票,这可能与她在 29 岁时与加州权力掮客威利布朗的婚外情有关。布朗 61 岁。布朗当时已与一名黑人妇女结婚,尽管已分居。 哈里斯正在发火,因为她清楚地利用了这段关系 推进她的事业 同时还获得了几个州委员会的赞助,使她净赚了数十万美元。

最有趣的候选人无疑是国会女议员图尔西·加巴德 (Tulsi Gabbard),她是来自夏威夷的第四任国会女议员,她在那里出生和长大。 她也是国家安全的真正代表,她曾在夏威夷国民警卫队担任军官并在伊拉克进行战斗部署,因此她一直在那里并完成了这项工作。 尽管在国会全职工作,她仍然履行她的警卫职责。

尽管图尔西有自己的军事经验,但她充分表明她是诚实的反战者。 在 演讲 在宣布参选时,她承诺“关注战争与和平问题”,以“结束那些夺走太多生命并通过加强基地组织等恐怖组织破坏我们安全的政权更迭战争。” 她提到了误入可能的核战争所带来的危险,并表示她对似乎重新出现冷战的情况感到沮丧。

不怕挑战建制政治, 她呼吁 结束“推翻叙利亚政府的非法战争”,并指出“推翻阿萨德的战争适得其反,因为它实际上帮助伊斯兰国和其他伊斯兰极端分子实现了推翻阿萨德叙利亚政府并控制叙利亚政府的目标。整个叙利亚——这只会增加该地区的人类苦难,加剧难民危机,并对世界构成更大的威胁。” 然后,她以行动支持她的话,于 2017 年秘密安排个人前往大马士革与巴沙尔·阿萨德总统会面,并表示“如果你认真追求和平”,与对手会面很重要。 她对叙利亚局势做出了自己的评估,现在赞成将美军撤出该国,并结束美国对该地区“政权更迭”的干预。

2015 年,加巴德支持巴拉克奥巴马总统与伊朗的核协议,最近还批评唐纳德特朗普总统退出该协议。 去年 2015 月,她批评以色列在加沙射杀“手无寸铁的抗议者”,但有人推测,与几乎所有美国政客一样,她还必须确保她的背后没有以色列游说团。 加巴德在为以色列的基督徒联合组织的一次会议上发言,该会议为以色列的定居点事业辩护。 支持削减对巴勒斯坦人的资助的立法; 并与 Boteach 以及共和党的主要捐助赌场大亨谢尔登·阿德尔森建立了联系。 她还出席了 XNUMX 年 XNUMX 月以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡在国会发表的有争议的演讲,许多进步的民主党人抵制了该演讲。

尽管如此,图尔西在 2016 年支持伯尼·桑德斯 (Bernie Sanders) 的反战候选人资格,并且在宣传她的反战情绪方面似乎完全支持并且无所畏惧。 是的,美国人以前已经听过很多相同的消息,但是塔尔西·加巴德(Tulsi Gabbard)很可能是唯一在过去五十年中真正可以选择的真正反战候选人。

Tulsi Gabbard 正在完成的工作可能会以已经聚集并准备抓捕她的敌人来衡量。 格伦格林沃尔德 拦截 描述如何 NBC新闻发表了一篇 广为流传的故事 在1二月st,声称“跟踪与俄罗斯有关的网站和社交媒体的专家已经看到了可能支持夏威夷民主党人图尔西·加巴德的运动。”

但NBC引用的专家竟然是坚定的New Knowledge, 被曝光的不亚于《纽约时报》 为民主党在阿拉巴马州参议院竞选中伪造俄罗斯巨魔账户,暗示克里姆林宫正在干涉那次选举。 根据格林沃尔德的说法,该组织最终落后于 这次对加巴​​德的攻击 is 保障民主联盟 (ASD),它赞助了一种名为 汉密尔顿68,一个新闻“情报网络检查器”,声称跟踪俄罗斯传播虚假信息的努力。 自闭症谱系障碍 官网 建议“确保民主是全球的必需品。”

ASD 于 2017 年由通常的新保守派人群在大西洋主义者和反俄罗斯的德国马歇尔基金会的资助下成立。 这是 满载 犹太复国主义者和干预主义者/全球主义者的完整补充,包括迈克尔·切尔托夫、迈克尔·麦克福尔、迈克尔·莫雷尔、科里·沙克和比尔·克里斯托尔。 它天真地声称自己是一个跨大西洋的跨大西洋国家安全倡导组织,旨在识别和反击俄罗斯破坏美国和欧洲民主的努力,但实际上它本身就是虚假信息的主要来源。

目前,Tulsi Gabbard 似乎是“真实的东西”,一个决心在该平台上运行的真正的反战候选人。 它可能只会引起大多数美国人的共鸣,他们已经厌倦了为“传播民主”而进行的永久战争以及管理美国的寡头和叛徒集团犯下的其他相关欺诈行为。 我们人民总能寄予希望。

(从重新发布 战略文化基金会 经作者或代表的许可)
 
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  1. She’s better looking than Hillary, Pocahontas, Kampala ‘Da ho’ Harris, and the rest of them. So she’s got my vote.

  2. peterAUS 说:

    For the moment, Tulsi Gabbard seems to be the “real thing,” a genuine anti-war candidate who is determined to run on that platform.

    Be that as it may, what is conspicously missing from the article are some 未成年人 东西:
    1. What’s her angle about immigration?
    这个:
    https://votesmart.org/public-statement/1197137/rep-tulsi-gabbard-calls-on-congress-to-pass-the-dream-act#.XGXEplUza1s
    不乐观。
    2. What’s her angle about “outsourcing” jobs overseas?
    这个:
    https://www.votetulsi.com/node/25011
    Not bad, but, still…..

    Just those two. We can leave the rest of “globo-homo” agenda off the table, for the moment.
    And, the last but not the least, that nagging angle about automation and (paid) work in general. Let’s not get too ambitious here. Those two, only, should suffice at the moment.

    • 回复: @jack daniels
  3. Si1ver1ock 说:

    I like Tulsi. but she hasn’t been tested in a presidential campaign yet. At least we will have someone who could put peace on the ballot.

    She should write a book pulling her policies together and use it to get some publicity.

    • 回复: @Adrian E.
    , @Moi
  4. Tulip 说:

    She’s damaged goods.

    Howard Dean’s already said she’s “unqualified” to be the Democratic nominee.

    She belongs to a Krishna Consciousness cult run by some Hawaiian surfer dude that disapproves of “homosexuality”, which should manage to scare away both the Decent, Christian White people in the South and the Mid-West AND the LGBT circus and their metrosexual spectators at the same time.

    Further, some of the cult members have connections to shady financial crimes and may be wanted by the government of India. And who knows what connections she had to that activity, or what other crooked back room deals she might have been privy to in her time.

    Not to mention, the Neo-Cons already have a target pinned to her back, and their media enablers are sure to pile on if they see her as a threat to the American Death Machine.

    I think she says some intelligent things on foreign policy, and might be a reasonable choice for a protest vote, but you don’t have to be half-Samoan to reckon that a canoe full of holes ain’t gonna travel far.

  5. c matt 说:

    Of the Democrat field so far, she is the least objectionable.

    • 同意: Colin Wright
  6. Adrian E. 说:

    Regularly Americans vote for the less interventionist candidate. 2008, an important reason for Obama’s victory against Hillary Clinton and John McCain was that he had been against the Iraq war. 2000, George W. Bush said he was against nation building. Then, after they are elected, the neocons remain in power. Something similar again with Donald Trump who campaigned against stupid wars in the Middle East and now has surrounded himself with some of the most extreme neocons.

    Of course, it is impossible to predict whether it will be the same with Tulsi Gabbard, but unlike these other candidates in the past , she puts her rejection of neocons and regime change wars so much into the center of her campaign that it should be assumed that she is serious – otherwise it would be complete betrayal. However, if she is serious about this and is elected, she will be fought by the deep state and its allies in the media much more harshly than Trump, who isn’t even consistently anti-neocons, just not reliably pro-neocon. What they would probably do to her would make spygate, the Russiagate conspiracy theory, and the Muller investigation look harmless. She might end like JFK (a VP who is just as anti-neocons might increase the chances of survival).

    But despite all the risks, I think it is worth trying. If the US was a parliamentary democracy with proportional representation and the neocons had their own party, it would hardly have more than a handful of seats in Congress. Although they don’t have, a significant base of their own, neocons have remained in power for a long time, whoever was elected. At the moment, Tulsi Gabbard is probably the best hope for ending their long reign.

    • 回复: @Tulip
    , @animalogic
  7. Adrian E. 说:
    @Si1ver1ock

    She is writing a book: https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/06/tulsi-gabbard-is-writing-a-book/

    I’m not sure, but I think it should be available some time this spring.

  8. Tulip 说:
    @Adrian E.

    But that’s the thing: they would not have a neo-con party. The financial backers of all the national parties would back neo-con candidates in all the parties, and would exert institutional influence on non-neo-con candidates to get them on board.

    A party is like a set of chess pieces, having multiple parties is like having multiple sets of chess pieces. The only thing that matters is the hand that moves the chess piece.

  9. @Tulip

    “Howard Dean’s already said she’s “unqualified” to be the Democratic nominee.”

    Well Hell’s Bells, if Howard “Yeahawwwwwww!” Dean don’t like her, she must be good.

    Tulsi’s a Betty … she’s got my vote.

    • 回复: @Benjy
    , @wayfarer
  10. basically, it’s a communist…

    but, unlike the others,

    no sudden zig to the right on Israhell.

    I’d do ‘er.

  11. Michael Chertoff, huh. That says it all. If there was any justice in this country Mr. Chertoff would have long since been tried for treason for his involvement in the 911 attack.

    • 同意: Moi, Druid
    • 回复: @anarchyst
    , @anon
    , @Art
    , @Druid
  12. anonymous[241]• 免责声明 说:

    She’ll be sabotaged by relentless smears and other dirty tricks. Only someone bought and owned will be allowed to be a candidate which means the MIC must continue being fed enormous amounts of money and war hysteria constantly being stoked. She won’t have a chance. Besides, the Dem party has gotten radical and out of touch with the majority of Americans so who really wants them in? There’s no cause for optimism anywhere one looks.

    • 同意: apollonian
  13. gsjackson 说:

    Marianne Williamson actually has had quite a large following for decades in the New Age movement, which probably has some overlap with Democratic Party activists. She would probably steer clear of the usual political issues.

    Being kosher (notwithstanding the last name), she might be able to get the tribal stamp of approval, but war-mongering may not come naturally, given her previous career as devotee of peace and love. I remember when, as an innocent youth in the ’80s, I interviewed with a very well known Washington political organization. One interviewer, who I now understand to be a neocon but did not then, asked what should be the U.S. response to the East Germans shooting U.S. Army Major Nicholson. “Should we shoot one of theirs?” I thought I was being tested for excessive jingoism and suggested retaining the moral high ground. I later understood that the right answer would have been, ‘shoot a thousand of theirs for every one of ours.’

    • 回复: @Anon71
  14. Anonymous[270]• 免责声明 说:

    Tulsi has zero chances as a Democrat. There is, however, a path to presidency for her (the one she will almost certainly not take): 1) switch to GOP, 2) adopt explicitly “citizenist” position along the lines of America for Americans, 3) challenge Trump in the primaries emphasizing his failure to deliver on all of his core campaign promises.

    If that happens, she will win primaries with ~50% chance and likely have >50% chance in the general election against the current Democratic field.

    • 同意: The Anti-Gnostic
    • 回复: @Tulip
    , @Muggles
  15. anarchyst 说:
    @2stateshmustate

    Chertoff was a part of 9-11. His company supplies the “backscatter radar” machines used at American airports…

  16. Gg Mo 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    Has anyone discussed the possibility of Tulsi being “marketed” or long-game “branded” through intentional theatre as “anti-war” ? Greenwald himself has questionable backers and the WWF good guy/bad guy character creations (like Trump’s pre-election talking points concerning illegal wars , now stuffed down the memory holes of many), all the FAKE and distracting “fights” etc etc
    Corbett/Sibel Edmonds on Greenwald : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-nC36D3nBk

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  17. @peterAUS

    Any serious Democratic candidate, and to some extent any Republican, must fly through the flack of Deep State anti-populist guns. I am skeptical about Gabbard because her policy views are already too good to be true. She is “cruisin’ for a bruisin’” and there is already a campaign to erase her from the debate in the manner in which Ron Paul was erased a few years back. Gabbard is an attractive woman and on camera she comes across as aggressive and a quick-thinking, highly articulate debater. Like Trump her instinct is to meet force with counter-force rather than roll with the punches and I think that is her best chance. In that way she calls the bluff of her opponents: Just how confident are they that in the end the public will prefer war to peace? These points add up to a realistic chance of success but given the Deep State’s stranglehold on the media she is definitely a long shot.

    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @peterAUS
  18. Biff 说:

    De ja vu. I remember reading these very similar(not exactly but similar) sentiments about Barack Obama back in 2008. What a load of crap that turned out to be, but I do understand that not all politicians are cut from the same dung heap, so it is probably best to find out who is funding the little pricks while they are campaigning – for once they are elected, payback is due. In the case of Obama it was Robert Rubin(of Goldman Sachs) who bankrolled him, and of course, once elected it was bank bailout time.
    Then once Ghaddaffi’s gold back Dinar became a monetary powerhouse, he committed another crime for the bankers.

    “Is she the real deal?”

    Elect her and you’ll find out, and there lies the problem – you get to find out when it’s too late.

    On the other hand, she could actually be honest and sincere, but that alone disqualifies her as a politician(the kind that Americans are used to anyway).

    NTL, she’s got people’s attention and if for anything else – the people are anti-war, but the monied power brokers are definitely not which begs the question – will democracy actually happen?

    • 回复: @LondonBob
  19. renfro 说:

    I have concerns about Gabbard and her India, thus Israel sentiments.
    I’ve written here about them before so wont repeat myself.

    They are all going to go for the campaign money, which means lots of Jewish zio money will be in play.
    They will all take the Jewish money if offered.
    Then they will favor the Jewish side because they will need the campaign money again for reelection.

    I dream of the day a president in his first address to the nation says…..”thanks for the money fellows but all deals are off.”

    Spent on last election $5.8 billion.

  20. renfro 说:

    One thing about Gabbard I am put off by is her obsessive hatred of Muslims and Islam, just like her pal Modi in India.
    That doesnt bode well for keeping the US out of the ME

    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @renfro
    , @Cratylus
    , @Moi
    , @Druid
  21. animalogic 说:
    @Adrian E.

    Don’t know much about this lady. If she is “fair dinkum” in her anti war/anti-imperialism stance her only chance to get into power & then get things done will be to gain a massive, committed popular following. She will need to use tactics from both the Sanders & Trump play-books. She will need to appeal to a good number in both the Sanders & Trump constituencies. Regardless, she will need an iron-will & tsunami of charisma….

  22. Realist 说:

    美国已准备好成为真正的和平候选人

    She is a peace candidate, but the rest of her ideas are left wing tripe.

    • 回复: @Harold Smith
  23. LondonBob 说:
    @Biff

    Obama was a creation of the Pritzker and Crowne families, although the puppet did decide he wanted to somewhat act on his own. Gabbard is certainly taking flak from the Israel firsters, and her debating Trump on foreign policy in a US Presidential election would be a real paradigm shift.

  24. Renoman 说:

    She tells the truth and we can’t allow that.

  25. anon[206]• 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    Why in hell doesn’t Giraldi mention Rand Paul as the most consistent anti-war candidate?

    • 回复: @Benjy
  26. RobinG 说:
    @renfro

    Where do you get this “obsessive hatred of Muslims and Islam?”

    She’s been [insistent and consistent] using the term ‘radical Islamic terrorists’ which, unfortunately, is an accurate description of ISIS (the bane of the ummah). OTOH, last year Tulsi was a featured speaker at a Moslem conference in NJ, and she has been outspoken about freedom of religion and mutual respect. If you’ve got some evidence that she excludes Islam from that, please show it.

  27. RobinG 说:
    @jack daniels

    …[Gabbard’s] policy views are already too good to be true.

    Not really. Too good to be true would be if she understood Putin in the context of the US and oligarch rape of Russia in the 1990’s and how he has restored the Russian economy and dignity; and if she recognized (openly) the US role in the Maidan coup and accepted the validity of the Crimean decision to return to Russia.

    Unfortunately, even though she’s taken a brave position on ending US regime-change war on Syria, in many other respects she remains quite conventional. She also promotes fear of DPRK, and who knows what she thinks about China.

    …she comes across as aggressive and a quick-thinking, highly articulate debater.

    Aggressive? Composed, confident, yes. Aggressive, no. Calm under fire is more like it. Take a look at the whole interview on Morning Joe. She really outclasses those squirming bitches. BUT, notice her (short) responses on Putin and Assad (“adversary” and “no”), real Judas moments. Does she believe that, or is she clinging to the Overton Window?
    https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/rep-gabbard-assad-is-not-an-enemy-of-the-us-1438093891865

    • 回复: @jack daniels
  28. renfro 说:
    @renfro

    From her own statements. Which I quoted in a previous post. I don’t have time now but you can go into my archives and find the post if interested.
    And then her support of Modi……she argued against inserting a ‘human rights’ clause in the US India agreement…..even after Modi directed attacks on Muslims in India. She said keeping good relations with India was more important. I don’t call that very principled. I would like to hear her explain that.

    The US is already supporting enough dictators and human rights violators.

    But we will see what she says going forward…..championing someone too early makes people tend to gloss over some of their contradictions
    I’m just saying don’t get all hopey changey 在此刻。

  29. Anonymous [AKA "Forcible Overthrow time"] 说:

    Tulsi’s presidential timber but she’s wasting her life with the Democrats. Their consulting apparatchiks are going to stuff a bunch of incoherent slogans up her butt. If she wants a real antiwar platform she should steal it wholesale from Stein and Ajamu Baraka. Baraka built a complete and consistent law-and-order platform. He’s the only real antiwar candidate in this country. Of course the Democrat’s CIA handlers will crush Tulsi if she starts to make sense, so she’s going to have to take her supporters and jump to the Greens. She will lose, but arbitrary forcible repression of the party will discredit bullshit US electoral pageantry once and for all. Then we move into the parallel government zone in conformity with world-standard human rights law and destroy the parasitic kleptocratic USA.

  30. peterAUS 说:
    @jack daniels

    You know….there IS one thing nobody wants, really, to talk about.

    ….given the Deep State’s stranglehold on the media she is definitely a long shot…

    Why, in this age, the “stronghold on the media” is so decisive? A person who gets the most of media exposure wins? That’s how it works?
    Or, do anyone reading and posting here gets his/her information from the “media”? I’d say not.

    Isn’t the bottom, the very heart of the matter NOT a Deep State, Dem Joos, Anglo-Saxons, Masons, Illuminati and….whatever…but simple, eternal, laziness and stupidity of an average person?
    Or, even worse: the real, true, needs and wants of an average person are simply “breads and circuses”. Nothing more.
    Combine those two and here we are.

    I am aware that throws the spanner into works of those into Aryans, White supremacy, Western man and similar stuff, but, the conclusion seems inevitable.

    That’s the heart of the problem “we” face at the moment. How to fix it, or even is it possible, I don’t know. Have some ideas, of course.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  31. anon[194]• 免责声明 说:
    @2stateshmustate

    If there was any justice in this country Mr. Chertoff would have long since been tried for treason for his involvement in the 911 attack.

    The arc of something or other is long but tends toward justice er something like that:

    Chertoff’s business partner Mike Hayden had a stroke last November and is still “getting good care and working hard at therapy.”

    No doubt US taxpayers are paying to rebuild Scumbag Hayden’s fried circuits.
    遗憾。

  32. CIA Giraldi probably has more Cherokee DNA than Warren. Another fact he failed to provide to the Government during the security clearance process. The troll has supported the republican establishment all his career, this distinguishes him from the trolls that support the democratic establishment all of their careers. The fact that people can debate the relative merits of political leaders from the dark lagoon reveals their complete lack of rational thought. No politician decides anything important.

  33. Tulip 说:
    @Anonymous

    No, then she is toast in Hawaii politics, and she is probably running not because she plans on winning, but to raise her profile and perhaps open doors for herself on the national or state level, which won’t happen if you shoot yourself in the foot at the same time.

    Besides, leaving aside Krishna consciousness, she is too close to Sanders to get any traction among the Republicans. I suppose getting the bipartisan support of the Internet kook vote is something, but hard to translate into political office.

  34. RobinG 说:
    @Tulip

    …..getting the bipartisan support of the Internet kook vote is something, but hard to translate into political office.

    Brilliant. 😉

  35. RobinG 说:
    @renfro

    没有 hopey changey here. See #28 for one thing, and there’s still Deep State to contend with, even if she won.

  36. Anonymous [AKA "Dem Juche"] 说:

    You’re never going to get anything worthwhile from a Democratic politician because they’re indoctrinated worse that the brightest little Pioneer in Juche class. Take Ro Khana’s meaningless pap.

    https://fellowtravelersblog.com/2018/10/23/ro-khanna-five-principles/

    What is this ‘we should’ crap? The law is perfectly clear. The right to self-defense is subject to necessity and proportionality tests, and invariably subject to UN Charter Chapter 7 in its entirety. See Article 51. Instead of this ‘restraint’ waffle, just say, the president must commit to faithfully execute the supreme law of the land, including UN Charter Chapter 7 and Article 2(4). That means refrain from use or threat of force. Period.

    Second, national security is not a loophole in human rights. Khana uses the legally meaningless CIA magic word ‘threat.’ Under universal jurisdiction law, it is a war crime to declare abolished, suspended or inadmissible in a court of law the rights and actions of the nationals of the hostile party. Domestic human rights are subject to ICCPR Article 4, HRC General Comment 29, and the Siracusa Principles. Instead of CIA’s standard National Security get-out clause, state explicitly that US national security means respect, protection and fulfillment of all human rights. To enforce that, ratify the Rome Statute or GTFO.

    Third, internationalism is OK as far as it goes, but Ro Khana doesn’t deal with the underlying problem: CIA has infested State with focal points and dotted-line reports, and demolished the department’s capacity for pacific resolution of disputes. You have to explicitly tie State’s mission to UN Charter Chapter 6, and criminalize placement of domestic CIA agents in State.

    第四,国会的制造战争的权力毫无用处,国会完全被腐败了。 在不违反第51条的情况下,仅通过公开公投将《卢德洛修正案》带回来。

  37. obwandiyag 说:

    I like the one on here who says the Democrat party has “gotten radical.”

    This is typical of the high caliber of IQ at this rag which promulgates IQ bullshit.

    • 巨魔: jim jones
    • 回复: @Biff
    , @Wally
  38. Rich 说:

    Tulsi is a far Left democrat. She supports raising taxes to pay for free college for people earning less than 125K and universal health care, she actually joined protesters against the Dakota Access Pipeline, has a 100% rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood, supports homosexual marriage (changed her previous position in 2012), and has an F rating from the NRA. She’s a Lefty. Not for me, anyway.

    • 同意: Mike Tre
  39. In any case she is less vulnerable. She can call any opposition a misogynist.

  40. Biff 说:
    @obwandiyag

    I like the one on here who says the Democrat party has “gotten radical.”

    I assume this is sarcasm, but there is no denying the fact that the neocons(radical whack jobs) have jumped ship from the Republicans and attached themselves to the Democrats(although there are filtering back into the Trump administration – drunk with power they’ll suck up to anyone) The DNC NeverTrump crowd is all but calling for a nuclear exchange with Russia because they colluded with Trump to throw the election, and they pose a National Security threat to the United States(in their head). Hillary also went on to say that Russians Hacking the DNC is another 9\11.
    The radical Antifa crowd is made up of 99.999999% of Democratic voters.

    As far as radical they are as bad as I’ve ever seen it.

    • 回复: @jack daniels
  41. haole 说:

    Hawaii is detroit with asians. In any ranking of states it is in the bottom 10: worst roads, worst trafic, bad for business, high corruption, education, high taxes.

    Speaking of corruption, the wife of the chief of police of Honolulu, her and her brother were selling drugs, trail is just starting. I hope dirt comes out on a lot of politicians in hawaii

    https://www.kitv.com/story/39961097/kealoha-and-puana-plead-not-guilty-at-initial-appearance

    Who wants another president from Hawaii??

  42. ron 说:

    Hate to break in here but there are very few if any sites in Canada which allow one to comment freely.
    We are stuck with a Tweedledum Tweedledee government. Same as Americans are stuck with Democrat/Republican government.
    For me it was particularly annoying to see my ‘government’ support your ‘government’ in approving war to change the real government in Venezuela for nothing but profits. Just saying.

  43. CFR’s Tulsi Gabbard is NOT for real. She is the new flavor of bait trying to hook the public. Go to the following website and click on “G.” https://www.cfr.org/membership/roster
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-tulsi-gabbard-the-pro-assad-iraq-war-vet-critical-of-israel-loved-by-adelson-evangelicals-1.6831029
    Here are Clinton and Cheney letting us know who runs the show.

  44. Cratylus 说:
    @Tulip

    B.S. as far as the anti-LGBTQetc criticism goes.
    She was antigay in her early 20s, coming from a very conservative family.
    She changed that position long ago, apologized for it and became a supporter for gay marriage before Killary and Obomber.
    She has a 100% rating from the most recognized LGBTQ organization in the US for all six of her years in Congress.
    Her intense opposition to war comes from two tours of duty in Iraq and to nuclear war from the 38 minutes of total fear when Hawaii thought it was about to be hit by nuclear missiles from North Korea last year.
    I think Tulip is misinformed or biased.
    Tulsi is the only genuine Dem peace candidate out there – the ONLY one.

  45. Cratylus 说:
    @renfro

    Why then is she pushing for getting out of Syria and opposing regime change there which Israel desperately wants?
    Please make a little bit of sense.

    • 回复: @Cloak And Dagger
  46. Anon[694]• 免责声明 说:

    I’ve never heard Gabbard say anything about Israel, so it’s really not clear what her position is on that. I’ve only ever heard from her when the news is about Syria, she wants us out of Syria. But Trump’s already pulling our troops out of Syria.

    Meanwhile she’s pretty liberal on immigration, wants open borders and all.

    Kirsten Gillibrand has also been called an anti-Semite for supporting the Palestinians, but she is horrid on immigration, big time pro DACA amnesty and open borders.

    Not a single Dem candidate is electable. Not a single GOP candidate is electable either. Trump basically just signed the Open Borders bill today, while his “emergency border wall” will be stuck in courts and never get built. Meanwhile, he’s promised to bust 法律 immigration wide open and make it much easier for every third worlder and his mother to come in through the front door.

    To those who are sick of the endless wars and endless immigration, the only two people electable are not running, Kris Kobach and Pat Buchanan.

  47. Tulsi Gabbard, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar…

    As funny as it sounds, we may need to rely on these women of colour to look out for our best interests. They’re certainly less held back and more willing to point out the Emperor’s lack of clothes. I’ve befriended (and bedded) several women of colour in my day. In my experience, no matter where they fall on the political spectrum, they will tend to be more candid and honest with you about topics such as the J.Q., black male over-representation on T.V., and what a woman really wants from a man. They’ll also give you a better insight on why everyone wants to move to countries run by the descendants of Northwestern Europeans.

    Unfortunately, most white women nowadays will just lecture you with pieties if you want to partake in any conversation beyond the banal.

    • 回复: @Mike Tre
    , @Johnny Rico
  48. Art 说:
    @2stateshmustate

    Michael Chertoff, huh. That says it all. If there was any justice in this country Mr. Chertoff would have long since been tried for treason for his involvement in the 911 attack.

    Hear Hear – let me second that – Michael Chertoff is one bad Talmudic Jew!

    He has his dirty hands all over the 9/11 coverup.

    认为和平—无害—艺术

  49. PeterMX 说:

    I think she’s sincere and has firm beliefs on certain things, like being anti-war. I also felt that way about Trump when he was running. I still feel that way to a degree about Trump, but I go back and forth with how I feel about him. I have no doubt the hateful Jewish media wears on him and it appears pretty obvious Jewish money from lunatics like Sheldon Adelson has now had an affect on him. When he bombed Syria (twice) it was unwarranted and done in response to Jewish/media pressure. I didn’t watch his State of the Union address and I have no intention to. I was sick and tired of the holocaust lies over 40 years ago already and his speech is apparently loaded with holocaust propaganda. It’s interesting to compare Jews against Christians (gentiles if you prefer).

    Trump’s grandparents came to the US from Germany, he probably heard German spoke in his house when he was young and it would not be surprising if prior to and during the war the German side of his family supported Germany in the war, even if they didn’t let it be known (for good reasons). His family now has strong Jewish ties and he spits on Germany, even though his own grandparents were from there. Contrast that with Jews like Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban, at least one and perhaps both being dual Israeli-American citizens. But their whole world revolves around Israel, that is who they are loyal to and they use the US to advance Israeli interests. They obviously have dual loyalties, or perhaps only loyalty for Israel. The difference between Trump and people like Adelson and Saban demonstrates the differences between Christians and Jews. And the Jewish media is able to convince much of the country of a ridiculous conspiracy theory about how Russian tweets and Facebook posters stole the election, while the two biggest donors to the Republican and Democratic Parties are Israeli citizens but the whole country talks of “Russians” influencing American elections.

    Tulsi is an excellent candidate but Jewish power will break her too. Dr. Kevin MacDonald points out interesting facts about how Europeans (whites) are more individualistic and not tied to their race/people the way people originating from the middle east are (Jews and Muslims). Until Europeans/Whites work as a group to advance their interests, Jews will always have influence out of proportion to their population size. There are plenty of wealthy Christians in western countries and they have more money than the small Jewish populations, but Bill Gates, Steve Jobs (now passed), Warren Buffet, the Koch brothers, Jeff Bezos and others don’t work to advance European/White interests and I suspect whites will remain the way they are and so will Jews and that means there will be more battles between the two in the future. With all due respect to people like Ron Unz, Gilad Atzmon and a few other good Jews (although Gilad says he is no longer Jewish), there are white nationalists with PHD’s that say Jews must be made to leave white countries or the tiny, tight knit Jewish community will forever rule over these countries and their arguments are convincing. The last time a leader of a country made that a policy WW II broke out a few years later. I believe that is why WW II broke out.

    • 回复: @anonymous
  50. sarz 说:

    It’s strange and pleasing to see a sincere Krishna-bhakt in the thick of American politics. I imagine her bhakti gave her the strength to go and meet Assad. I wish she would take a step back and look again at ‘gay rights’ from the perspective of myth. We all have the right to public space free of sexuality, whether gay or straight, though loaded with sexual tension as is inevitable. We also all have the rigbt to adult privacy. We all rely on an undamaged mythic order as the basis of sanity. Gay marriage and all the sexual snd gender identity shenanigsns damage the mythic order. All the laws should be formulated in as neutral a way as possible so gays can have fulfilling social and intimate lives. But without giving in to gender-identity capers polluting public space.

    • 回复: @anonymous
  51. You can’t be anti war without being anti Israel. She will be destroyed. If Trump was the real deal he would tap her for Secretary Of Defense.

  52. Benjy 说:
    @The Alarmist

    “Tulsi’s a Betty … she’s got my vote.”

    Pure identity politics. It perfectly illustrates why women’s suffrage was such a mistake, and that requirements for voting must be set far higher. Every women reading this comments section is creaming her panties over Tulsi the same way they did over Obama in 2008.

    Just look at that picture. That is the best shot of her “surfing”? I have seen bigger waves in my bath tub. If you look at any of her surfing pictures, aside from the fact that she is always alone, meaning she never has to fight for a position on a wave, she looks awkward and unathletic. Just like the shots of Obama shooting, golfing or even riding a bike.

    And like Obama, you really have to wonder what kind of globohomo agenda is going on behind the scenes. She is 37 years old, a divorcee, remarried, with no children. Just what the world needs, more childless and barren women running countries. Her 12 month “tour” in Iraq was at a medical hospital, likely in the green zone in Baghdad. Now she has been sheep dipped and made a “hero”. Thank you for your service helping to kill innocent women and children, Tulsi.

    But what irks me most of all, is her crass usage of little mind control twerks like “aloha”, “surfer babe”, “cool Hawaiian”. A real surfer would never let themselves be filmed making awkward poses on ripples like that. A real Hawaiian would never say the kind of drivel she does about “aloha”. She is a complete and total phony.

    It is no coincidence that Nobel Peace Price winning Obama cheated his way into office using the exact same type of mental manipulation. Then, once in office, just look what he did to Ukraine, Syria and Libya. Gabbard will be no different. The sheeple never learn.

    If you want somebody who has proved he is willing and capable of taking on ZOG, there is only one person: Patrick Little. Here he is walking through the market in Seattle carrying a sign saying “Heather O’Rourke Raped by Jews”. He tells everyone that they raped her to death:

    • 回复: @Z-man
    , @George F. Held
  53. Sollipsist 说:
    @Tulip

    The winner of the 2016 meme war is sitting in the Oval Office, so…

  54. @RobinG

    Maybe you have higher expectations than I have! Politics is the art of the possible, as someone said. You have to cross midfield before you start worrying about your red-zone offense, to use an American football metaphor. Can you recommend a book or article on the oligarch rape and the other eastern European events you mentioned?

    • 回复: @RobinG
  55. Here we go… again. Its all dog and pony show. Anybody who is not retarded should know this by now.

    The system will never be reformed from within the system itself because that would mean those with the power would have to voluntarily give up their power. That never happens. Any and all talk about elections and amendments and other silliness is just that. Silliness. A huge time sink. A con. A distraction. Promulgated by dupes and knaves to keep the low IQs busy imagining that they are “doing something”.

    Power is not relinquished. It is taken.

    • 同意: jacques sheete
  56. @Rich

    Those are valid concerns. But if you’re on the Titanic you don’t worry about whether the lifeboat has a cot. Her foreign policy views, if acted on, would shake things up so much that the other policy areas you mention might become vulnerable to the right.

    As for free college, why not? The cost of a college degree is scandalous, and the need for a college degree is slight. It’s a pedigree, the new high school diploma, except for STEM majors.

    Personally, I favor an assault on the power of Academe via a national exam system whereby any yob from the boondocks could prove competence at an Ivy League level after self-study online. These ritzy commie schools should not be in a position to make or break a young person’s future by admitting or rejecting him.

    • 回复: @Rich
  57. @Biff

    IMO the Russian hacking thing is another case of Dems cooking up accusations of Republicans based on stuff they, the Dems, have already done or are thinking of doing. However, the main thing driving the Russia obsession is that Jews resent losing control of Russia, which is relapsing into a Christian and politically incorrect society, the last one in Europe. Thank God they have nukes.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @follyofwar
  58. @Tulip

    The internet kook vote is swelling, it seems to me. But the GOP rank and file are still mostly on board with the neocon foreign policy agenda. As a candidate, Trump tried to combine criticism of past and current US aggression with a tough-guy bluster. It’s a combination that is hard to pull off, since it’s logically incoherent. I suspect Trump’s base doesn’t give a damn about detente and would happily go along with the villification of Gabbard if asked to.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  59. @Tulip

    I suspect you are a BOT or paid troll, because you listed as a negative that Howard Dean disapproved of her. Howard Dean????????????????????

    Who on earth takes Howard Dean seriously?

    The only important thing you mentioned is neocon opposition. That is a serious problem for her but also her opportunity to shine, by being the only candidate whose antiwar commitment is sincere enough to brave their rage and smear tactics.

  60. Benjy 说:
    @anon

    https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/tulsi-gabbard-reinforces-commitment-peace-through-two-state-solution-israel-and

    “Rep. 图尔西加伯德 signed on as an original cosponsor of H.Res.23 on January 5, 2017, which reaffirms U.S. commitment to Israel and supports the U.S. policy of vetoing any one-sided or anti-Israel UN Security Council Resolutions that seek to impose a negotiated settlement on Israel and Palestine. It also expresses support for bilateral negotiations between Israel and Palestine, and condemns boycott and divestment campaigns and sanctions that target Israel设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

    Now compare “Aloha” Tulsi Gabbard ‘s typical “progressive” groveling towards Israel with somebody who has twice barely escaped assassination by zionist:

  61. At this stage she should only be compared with other democrats, and of those running she is the best. The idea ia to have the best choice in the general and to have two antiwar candiates fighting it out over other issues.

  62. Even if she became president, it would make no difference whatsoever. The government would continue to grow, spend more money it hasn’t got, invade more countries,violate the bill of rights, become even more tyrannical etc. etc. etc.

    And idealogically she’s just another typical mindless “big state/government works and can actually solve problems” zombie, no different from any other announced 2020 presidential contender to date, and no different from anyone [including Trump] who ran in 2016.

    The bald truth is that 政府解决方案永远行不通, and that the only real solution is to get the government completely out of as many areas of our lives as possible [including, but not limited to: defense, police, courts, banking, health care, welfare, commerce, transportation etc.] by reducing the government to [at least!] its original constitutional limits , if not even smaller.

    “…Once we realize that government doesn’t work, we will stop dreaming that this or that social problem can be solved by passing a law — or by creating a new government program — or by electing someone who will make Washington more efficient or cost-conscious.

    Once we realize that government doesn’t work, we’ll know that the only way to improve government is by reducing its size — by doing away with laws, by getting rid of programs, by making government spend and tax less, by reducing government as far as we can

    “The “Government Solutions Work” Scam”:
    http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2018/09/the-worlds-biggest-most-dangerous-scam.html

    此致onebornfree

    • 同意: Johnny Walker Read
    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  63. @Tulip

    You have some good ideas. I’d be interested in seeing some of things you wrote in 2015 about Trump’s chances.

  64. Like Ron Paul, if she’s truly antiwar, she stands less than zero chance of becoming a presidential candidate of either party.

    • 同意: Agent76
  65. geokat62 说:

    Yes, Americans have heard much of the same before, but Tulsi Gabbard could well be the only genuine antiwar candidate that might truly be electable in the past fifty years.

    Hope springs eternal, it appears.

    P.S. I thought it was Tuesday when I first came across this article.

  66. When will we learn, if any candidate gets the nomination of either party(ass or elephant)they are already owned. Until we get the money out of politics we don’t stand chance.

  67. Anon71 说:
    @gsjackson

    I don’t see Williamson as a viable candidate. Once it becomes known that the “Course In Miracles” she pushes is a rejection/inversion of basic Christian doctrine, that it was written by a Jew who firmly denounced the work on her deathbed, and that Williamson herself identifies as Jewish, I can’t see her getting any of the Christian vote and it will be hard for her to escape the image of a New Age con.

    Tulsi Gabbard is enticing, but so were others before they were elected. I’m waiting for a definitive statement on where she stands with Israel, if that will ever come. In the meantime I could only agree that is the least objectionable of all the cartoon characters that have announced candidacy.

    • 同意: gsjackson
    • 回复: @anonymous
  68. @renfro

    I’m just saying don’t get all hopey changey at this point.

    Agree, and thought of that when reading the article, especially the last sentence,

    We the people can always hope.

    My response is, no, we cannot as long as we rely on participating in a totally corrupt 系统。 Furthermore, it’s sheer folly to put so much hope in one person no matter how many people support that one, and it doesn’t matter how sincere they are, either.

    Look how badly the Trumpeteers have have been duped, for instance. The Orange Israel Firster said all the right things to get elected then promptly surrounded himself with the most despicable of neocons and caved almost immediately on many of the issues most dear to the hearts of his supporters. The scenario has been repeated too many times to begin mentioning.

    The evil is in the 系统; [the men and women] are the victims…

    -James Mill, The Political Writings of James Mill: Essays and Reviews on Politics and Society, 1815-1836, ed. David M. Hart (Liberty Fund, 2013). 2/4/2019. https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/2520#Mill_1624_1910

    一旦到了 政府 has the money and the soldiers, instead of fulfilling their promises to defend their subjects from foreign enemies, and to arrange things for their benefit, they do all they can to provoke the neighbouring nations and to produce war; and they not only do not promote the internal well-being of their people, but they ruin and corrupt them.

    一些错别字,但也可以做个简单的总结:托尔斯泰,《我们时代的奴隶制》,第8章,11年1900月XNUMX日

    http://ebooks.gutenberg.us/WorldeBookLibrary.com/slaverytol.htm#1_0_7

    We been ruint’ and corrupt’d, goys ‘n girlz, and there ain’t no hope with the system we have.

    • 同意: renfro
    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  69. @onebornfree

    Well said, and your comment gets my hearty nihil obstat, I’m happy it got PG’s imprimi potest 初审, 和我 抱有希望 your messages begin to sink in.

  70. @Johnny Walker Read

    Until we get the money out of politics we don’t stand chance.

    We need to get politics out of the money as well.

  71. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:

    Gabbard has nothing to do in present USA , like Ron Paul .

    The English-Yankee Empire in the last two centuries has defeated the French napoleonic Empire , the Spanish Empire , the German Empire , the Soviet Empire , the Indian Empire , the amerindians , etc.. the Angloyanki Empire is used to win .

    Like all Empires they think they can win for centuries , forever . So no room for a peace party in the Angloyanki Empire ( US-UK. Canada -Australia ) . Maybe the day will arrive , like it arrived to all Empires , when military exhaustion , internal division , economic bankrupcy , cultural degeneration etc… will ruin the Empire ,and then , only then , will arise a ” peace party ” to handle and liquidate the Empire .

    Nothing new under the sun .

  72. Even a sausage seller knows better than to run for office, and has to be seduced into doing it. Notice the tool of his opponent, the rich SOB, Cleon.:

    CLEON as he rushes in
    To my aid, my beloved lies!

    地磁
    幸福、财富、权力; 今天你一无所有,明天你将拥有一切,哦! 快乐雅典的首领。

    香肠卖家
    为什么不让我去洗我的牛肚和卖我的香肠而不是拿我开玩笑呢?

    地磁
    你将成为他们所有人的主人,市场、港口和 Pnyx 的总督; 你将践踏元老院,能够收银将领,给他们戴上镣铐,将他们投入监狱,你将在 Prytaneum 中通奸。

    -Aristophanes, The knights, 454 BC

    http://classics.mit.edu/Aristophanes/knights.html

    Anyone notice the date? Now, someone tell me whether there’s any hope.

    • 哈哈: utu
  73. Desert Fox 说:

    Tulsi Gabbard has a snowballs chance in hell of becoming POTUS, as anyone who wants to see America at peace will have the whole Zionist kabal against them and since the U.S. is under Zionist control and war is their number one export, no way in hell will a peace candidate succeed.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @geokat62
  74. @jack daniels

    I suspect Trump’s base doesn’t give a damn about detente…

    I suspect that your suspicion is on base even though the ever hopeful Trumpettes are pretty much off base. Anything wrapped in a flag including Trumpenstein’s Israel First policies and rich-Marxist foreign aggression are apparently just dandy with them.

  75. Anonymous[118]• 免责声明 说:
    @Gg Mo

    I believe her Progressive views and anti-war stance are genuine because they are based on her spiritual beliefs.

    Also the Establishment does view her anti-war stance as a threat as can be seen in the backlash against her.

    • 回复: @Gg Mo
  76. Rich 说:
    @jack daniels

    The iceberg we’re about to hit isn’t from our foreign policy, it’s from our overtaxing, overspending affirmative actioning policies. In a world that is becoming more hi-tech, we’re importing farm and factory workers, while promoting people to fill quotas of blacks, women and others to make sure our staffs are “diverse”, instead of capable. We could bomb the Middle East for the next 100 years if we returned to being a meritocratic society, but by promoting dolts like Kamala,, Corey, Barry and Hilary, we’re destroying our country from the top down.

    There’s no such thing as “free” education. The more money the government throws at colleges, the more they will charge. If we cut out all government aid to universities, they’d have to cut their tuition to more affordable levels. I agree their should be a national exam system, but I would institute it for high school and weed out the less intelligent there. I’d also allow companies to use testing for hiring, instead of having to jump through EOC guidelines to make sure they have enough vaginas and melanin in the their companies.

    • 回复: @anonymous
  77. Anonymous[118]• 免责声明 说:

    She is my favorite candidate – but I don’t think she has a chance of winning the general election. Now if Bernie Sanders were to pick her as VP that could be a winning ticket.

  78. wayfarer 说:

    A somewhat dated analysis, yet still relevant nonetheless.

    “Tulsi Gabbard Says She Will Run in 2020.”

  79. @Desert Fox

    Tulsi Gabbard has a snowballs chance in hell of becoming POTUS, as anyone who wants to see America at peace will have the whole Zionist kabal against them and since the U.S. is under Zionist control and war is their number one export, no way in hell will a peace candidate succeed.

    True. The real recipe for success in politics is summed up here.:

    合唱团的领袖

    ……偷窃、作伪证和让你的屁股接受是攀登高处的三个要素。

    -阿里斯托芬,骑士,公元前 454 年

    http://classics.mit.edu/Aristophanes/knights.html

    Note that those things are prerequisites, not guarantees, of success as the Hillaryenas should now know.

    • 同意: Desert Fox
  80. Priss Factor [又名“ Asagirian”] 说: • 您的网站

    If Jewish Power treats whites like Palestinians, whites should sympathize and identify with Palestinians, not with Jews. If the master treats you as slave, you should identify with other slaves of that master, not with the master. But white slaves identify with the Jewish master in bashing the Palestinian slaves.

    But so often, slaves have identified with their master than with other slaves. At least if master and slave have something in common, that’d be one thing. Like European noblemen and their white serfs. Or samurai and their Japanese servants. But Jews don’t regard whites as ethnic brethren.

    • 同意: Z-man
    • 回复: @RobinG
  81. Agent76 说:

    The two private parties will never allow a outsider into their private clubs.

    谁害怕公开辩论? 关于总统辩论委员会的真相

    总统辩论委员会是一家由前共和党和民主党主席主持的私人公司。 CPD是一种双头垄断,允许主要党派候选人就辩论安排起草秘密协议,包括主持人,辩论形式甚至参与者。

    2012年辩论–奥巴马与罗姆尼竞选活动之间的谅解备忘录

    https://publicintelligence.net/obama-romney-debate-mou/

    “如果投票有任何不同,他们将不允许我们这样做。” 马克·吐温

    • 同意: Desert Fox
  82. headrick 说:
    @Rich

    I would really like to vote for a real antiwar candidate. but she is a gun grabber and not pro life, and on most issues is a democrat. I will stick with Trump if he runs, or write in Ron Paul.

  83. geokat62 说:
    @Desert Fox

    … no way in hell will a peace candidate succeed.

    如此真实。

    The 1972 campaign of Democratic presidential candidate Senator George McGovern is a prime example. He campaigned on ending the Vietnam war and lost in a landslide.

    Here’s Bill Kristol’s father explaining a simple reality from the perspective of an extremely important and powerful constituency:

    Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States… American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.

    Needless to say, there are still many American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel… and always will.

  84. Z-man 说:
    @Benjy

    I gotta hand it to that guy Little (bad name) he’s got guts to go in there alone with that Antifa slug shadowing him. He better be careful as the 约兹 will have no qualms in shooting him.

  85. JackOH 说:

    Phil, thanks for identifying someone, Rep. Gabbard, who is already part of government who meets some minimal standard of political credibility in your view.

    I think it’s important that journals of opinion, such as Unz评论, occasionally make efforts to identify people already in the public eye, such as Rep. Gabbard and Steve Bannon and others, who hold views roughly favorable to the journals’ readership.

    Plus, I think the wealth of good posts and comments here offer a chance to directly influence the course of debate for the 2020 election.

    I mentioned a while back on this site:

    “. . . an [Unzian] political campaign platform for the 2020 election whose planks might draw the good attention of the major and minor parties. There seem to me younger folks here who are hungry for political expression, and who simply have nowhere to go.”

    “Ron has actual electoral experience as a candidate and issue promoter in a very big state, so he has the talent to put together such a platform.”

    “Both the posts and comments here at Unz Review offer a treasure, millions of words of sharp observations and reasoned insights by very bright people, from which a few platform planks can be drawn.”

    The down side of some sort of public engagement is compromise and a softening of language, and the down side of not engaging the already existing political trelliswork is isolation and irrelavance.

  86. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete, in Faulkner’s southern style lingo, said, “We been ruint’ and corrupt’d, goys ‘n girlz, and there ain’t no hope with the system we have.”

    Now that’s wisdom, JS, and attentive, I will humbly add:

    It’s the rhythm of ‘da iffen-system ‘dat ‘da dumb goyim ‘Merkin ‘dun been given; and I reckon there really ain’t no iffen-Hawaiian goyim ’round that’s gonna’ be stoppin’ our’s president makin’ & unforgivin’ Jewdim.

  87. Mike Tre [又名“MikeatMikedotMike”] 说:

    Every candidate should be measured on the following criteria: Invade the world/invite the world?

    If the answer to both isn’t “no,” then that person is of no use to the American people and should be dismissed.

    Gabbard might be sincerely anti-war, but there is little question where her priorities will lie domestically, and that is to say a pro dindoo, hindu, homo, entitlement, and diversity prostitute. The former is meaningless without the latter.

  88. Mike Tre [又名“MikeatMikedotMike”] 说:
    @Canadian Observer

    “Tulsi Gabbard, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar…

    As funny as it sounds, we may need to rely on these women of colour to look out for our best interests. They’re certainly less held back and more willing to point out the Emperor’s lack of clothes. ”

    Absurd. These POC women get away with what they say specifically because they are POC. This should be obvious.

    • 回复: @Wally
    , @Z-man
  89. Z-man 说:

    I want to thank Phil Giraldi for alerting me on the Tucker Carlson article on Boot and Kristol, Why Are These Professional War Peddlers Still Around? I never go on The American Conservative. As I’ve been saying for a long time now Tucker Carlson is 大满 but he still has to thread lightly thru the land mines of 阴谋集团.
    In his article he was clever to be nice to Kristol’s father Irving, one of the founders of NEOCONism, and still go after the son. He simply destroyed that slug Max Boot.
    Here it is for the rest of you lazy ba*tards, (grin).
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjRkIvUv8DgAhWJt1kKHZAeBv4QxfQBMAB6BAgAEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theamericanconservative.com%2Farticles%2Fwhy-are-these-professional-war-peddlers-still-around-tucker-carlson-max-boot-bill-kristol%2F&usg=AOvVaw1AkqiznZwFQnb0RGR4QPsn

    • 同意: Desert Fox
  90. wayfarer 说:
    @The Alarmist

    One look at that PR picture or her videos, and any diehard surfer will tell you, she’s a “kook.”

    Sure, she can pose, but she can’t surf.

    You’re looking at one serious hazard, in a big wave lineup.

    Were talking, dinged boards, maybe some blood and stitches, certainly lots of loud four-letter-words.

    That aside, I’d consider voting for the hottie.

    • 回复: @The Alarmist
  91. I have been quite happy with the post election development and advocacy of the opposition. I am loathe to identify anything that might encourage them to change course. What and how liberals the liberals decide on their candidates is a matter for them.

    But when it comes securing my support I can only this,

    a woman who pins her hat on the value of blackness and the role of that history who also supports killing children in the womb, is a woman who does not comprehend what it has meant to be black and human valuation.

    Further its a very difficult juxtaposition to claim serving the nation’s armed services defending US citizens and then advancing policies (i.e. legal and illegal immigration) that undermine in every way the lives of the people one claims to have defended.

    I understand that such contradictions have no meaning in hindi, budist, confucian and democratic thought.
    -
    This level of contradiction is insurmountable in obtaining my vote or support in anyway.

    • 回复: @Wally
  92. @Benjy

    Thanks, Benjy. I had never heard of Patrick Little. . . my new hero.

  93. KenH 说:

    Tulsi’s for real but she’s also a one trick pony who doesn’t seem to stand for much other than a rational foreign policy. She’s great on foreign policy but not so hot on issues that traditional white Americans believe important.

    She’s not an opponent of the Jewish lobby and if she were to get elected I doubt she would be strong enough to weather the storm that AIPAC would bring down upon her head for regime change wars 24/7/365. She doesn’t appear to be any friend to white Americans but neither is she a foaming at the mouth anti-white activist as Obama was, so that too, probably disqualifies her in the eyes of SJW-Americans.

    • 回复: @Art
  94. A kind of diagnosis for your problems on building real “resistance”….

    “What differentiates conservatives from progressives is that progressives trust people while conservatives do not trust people, they have a pessimistic conception of human nature and that justifies everything. ” Juan Carlos Monedero, Spanish political scientist.

    • 回复: @Anon
  95. @Realist

    “She is a peace candidate, but the rest of her ideas are left wing tripe.”

    The thing is, if we don’t get some actual peace, soon, nothing else will matter at all.

    • 回复: @Wally
    , @renfro
  96. Vojkan 说:

    Although Tulsi Gabbard’s anti-war stance does endow her with a lot of appeal, her other “progressive” views are real showstoppers, on societal issues with regards to conservatives, or on economy with regards to most both conservatives and libertarians. Since she definitely can’t count on the Bari Weiss “smugnorant” Clintonite type of liberals to build a majority, I am less than confident that taken as a whole her candidacy can attract more than a very narrow base of voters.

    • 回复: @Fatima Manoubia
  97. Wally 说:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Indeed, to this today I’m always amazed at those who tout Obama as having been a ‘pro-peace president’.
    几乎不。

    I sense Gabbard is faking it.

    • 同意: ChuckOrloski
    • 回复: @RobinG
  98. @Vojkan

    你确定吗?

    Even Pat Lang said he would vote for her…..

    • 回复: @Vojkan
  99. Wally 说:
    @Mike Tre

    Yeah, but inevitably they fold, like Ilhad Omar already has.

  100. Wally 说:
    @Harold Smith

    Unfortunately peace abroad does not necessarily translate into peace at home.

    There is no indication that the raging anti Euro-white racism will be stopped by her or any of the other ‘POCs’. Quite the contrary.

    • 回复: @Mike Tre
    , @Authenticjazzman
  101. AnonFromTN 说:

    As far as I am concerned, the fact that Elizabeth Warren supported corrupt mad witch in 2016 disqualifies her. I’d rather not vote at all than vote for Warren. At least Gabbard did not Hillary. What’s more, in sharp contrast to pretty much every war hawk in Congress, she actually served in the US armed forces. So, on the issues of war and peace she is more credible than all of them combined.

  102. Long time gone, I completely agree with Mr. Giraldi that, “America Is Ready for a Genuine Peace Candidate.”🤗

    Presumably, and like the distinguished anti-war Senator Rand Paul, Tulsi Gabbard has already completed the ritual rite of passage and has paid homage to Israel at the Wailing Wall? *

    (Note: Maybe U.R. Comment Research Specialist, geokat, can avail clarity on the matter, and perhaps tell if Ms. Gabbar has or has not “been there, done that”)

    Another (required) rite of passage shall be the prominent POTUS candidate’s, and by privileged invitation, address to Wall Street and AIPAC.

    So going forward to the excitement which will captivate American-voter attention during the upcoming presidential election campaign, it will be wise to track the “Favored Candidates” who are most accommodating to the special interests of multi-billionaires, for example, Haim Saban, Sheldon Anderson, and George Soros.🤗

    * For me, and due to the alt. media “flack” candidates routinely get for doing butt-kiss homage at the Wailing Wall, it seems (&not beyond the pale) that Tulsi Gabbard might have received a strategic Zio-exemption which drops such visitation requirement.

    • 回复: @geokat62
  103. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Fatima Manoubia

    Aggggg ,

    Monedero is spanish , is belongs to the corrupted and utopic party Podemos ( what means ” we can ” , they copied Obama ) , they are utopic ( and cleptocrats , their leader Pablo Iglesias is a low rank professor and a professional politican who bought a house in the sierra of madrid worth at least 2 million euros ) . Most of the people of Spain strongly dislikes the Party Podemos , habibi

    Progress , real progress is good , of course , but progesISM is a ruinous utopia .

    • 回复: @Fatima Manoubia
  104. Z-man 说:
    @Mike Tre

    Agree to a point but as others have said these girls are one trick ponies. Cortez is plain stupid. Tulsi is shifty (what else is new) and the little Somali is an alien. They serve their purpose but again, to a limited extent.
    Politics is funny, especially these days when Tucker Carlson 和我 can agree with AOC on Amazon taking advantage of NY politicians in getting a sweetheart deal and then making fun of her, rightfully so, for the rest of her whacky ideas.

  105. AnonFromTN 说:

    As far as I am concerned, the fact that Elizabeth Warren supported corrupt mad witch in 2016 disqualifies her. The same goes for Sanders. I’d rather not vote at all than vote for Warren or Sanders.
    Trump turned out to be a fake, too.

    At least Gabbard did not support Hillary. She was apparently fooled by Sanders, but so were a lot of people, who thought that he is for real, whereas he turned out to be as fake as most so-called Democrats. What’s more, in sharp contrast to pretty much every war hawk in Congress, she actually served in the US armed forces. So, on issues of war and peace she is more credible than all of them combined.

    Considering that practically every US politician is a fake and a shit at the same time, Gabbard might also be a fake. But all other contenders are proven fakes, whereas there is still a chance that she is for real.

    • 回复: @Wally
  106. Art 说:
    @KenH

    Tulsi’s for real but she’s also a one trick pony who doesn’t seem to stand for much other than a rational foreign policy. She’s great on foreign policy but not so hot on issues that traditional white Americans believe important.

    That one trick happens to the most important trick that America is facing.

    To think that she is going to become president – is absurd – the Jews (our biggest problem) will never ever ever let her win – PERIOD. They intend to politically kill her – PERIOD.

    There are a lot of very naive comments being made, that totally ignore the absolute power the Jews have over America’s culture and government.

    Peace needs a champion – peace needs something or someone to rally around – today, that someone is Tulsi Gabbard.

    It is all about votes. Votes are power. There is an ever-growing block of voters that want a peace candidate. If she can generate a 10% vote in the primaries she can get into the debates – would that not be great for peace? Putting the question of peace on the table is a victory.

    Would that not be a loss for the all-powerful Jews? Right now NO ONE will even talk peace, as the Jews want.

    Sorry – but those trashing Gabbard are caring water for the Jews.

    认为和平—无害—艺术

    • 回复: @KenH
  107. Vojkan 说:
    @Fatima Manoubia

    If we think of the same person, W. Patrick Lang, Giraldi’s VIPS colleague, how exactly is it surprising and how exactly does his support widen Tulsi Gabbard’s base?

  108. Anonymous [AKA "Real Deal in High Heels"] 说: • 您的网站

    优势。
    The courage, integrity, and commitment required to travel to Syria amidst a globalist war and meet with Assad is unparalelled in recent history. No other politician or member of Congress has such balls.
    Her anti-imperialist war doctrine is not an empty posturing stance. It is from first hand experience from two tours in Iraq at a base where mortar attacks happened daily. She was in charge of reviewing casualty lists and notifying families.
    I place her with Snowden, Manning, Assange, Binney in singular heroic effort to tell truth to power regardless of the cost. I hold her Syria mission approaches that type of selfless pursuit of truth-justice.

    She can’t surf, was anti-gay before coming around, is a Hindu cult member, divorcee, spinster, seemingly pro-Israel, she’s too beautiful… all are meaningless in the critical equation of honest leadership with integrity. Which is what this nation needs more than anything.

    Does anyone think the Israeli agenda-controlled ziocabal neocon oligarchy was pleased about that visit to Syria? Literal frothing and flailing, hilarious spectacle of outrage at the only true diplomatic fact-finding mission by a member of government to seek independent knowledge of the situation firsthand. How far we have fallen. A ray of hope.

    Assess the hasbara likud zionist chabad lubavitch propaganda directed at Gabard from the owned players and mainstream media narratives dirty tricks to gauge the amount of control over her. So far its telling. Expect swift boating.

    弱点。
    I’d like to see her open up and take stronger, clearer positions on gun rights, abortion, higher education, QUILTBAG agenda, AIPAC, money as political rubber stamp, the CEO-Congress-Corporate revolving door, Islam, states rights, homelessness and poverty, immigration, electronic voting, the economy and a host of other problematic issues.

    In her interviews I find her compelling strength against the imperial war-monger doctrine unassailable. But the acumen of sound reasoning backed by complete knowledge of details on the full range of issues is lacking. I have faith that she will bolster understanding, coalesce policy on goals. Abundance of character needs sound comprehensive factual readiness for the storm approaching.
    Can she operate and deal in the DC shark beltway as an effective executive power broker? Without being broken by the political machine?
    Maybe, hopefully.

    结论。
    Reviewing the line-up of corrupt, disengenous, deep-state controlled programmable robots on display for 2020 presidential elections, Gabbard is the only one that piques my curiosity.

    ‘She can’t win so why support her?’
    Besides the irrationality and inherent powerlessness of that statement, it is also false.
    The same thing was spouted profusely about Trump.
    The difference is that she isn’t making empty impossible populist promises. Just standing on her convictions.

    If she makes it to the primaries and her platform gets attention I can see an awakening of minds, groundswell.

    I can’t say with certainty that she is the complete package real deal. But I will say she is the closest we have come since Ron Paul. She has that true conviction that cannot be faked. An integrity based in continuity of character, apparent to the aware critical study of human expression, composure and behavior.

    The political machine is oiled and reving up hungrily, throw wrenches in it.

  109. Mike Tre [又名“MikeatMikedotMike”] 说:
    @Wally

    Agreed. Diversity promises perpetual conflict domestically, foreign wars aside.

  110. Eugene McCarthy never became President, but he changed national politics.

    Gabbard could have a big impact even if she does not win.

    She could also become VP, and at her age that might well be a stepping stone.

    • 回复: @Desert Fox
  111. @Canadian Observer

    That you for your concise and insightful comment on female human nature. That really clears everything up.

  112. @Vojkan

    Oh, I have no idea what really passes through his imagination or what, for that matter, the good ole Pat Lang is machinating, about this, or that….
    I was meaning that even Lang, who would never support or vote for any leftist, since a hard-nosed anti-communist since always ( a sickness wich for what it seems does not calm down at elderly age…), but, then, he stated he would vote for her, when she presented her running for POTUS.
    If Lang would be able to vote for her, I think other more flexible conservatives ( of whom I guess will be a lot more…) would do it, that was meant to be my point, no other.

    May be it is that Lang has enough with her being a veteran?
    Who knows, for him being a military has always a pass, as it is shown in his own blog, where you will never survive further the first two comments unless you render him military homage….something quite obnoxious for civilian people not accustomed or who even could have never been in contact with military people in their whole lives, who could find it antinatural and kinda flattery, which could well be going against their nature/principles.

    • 回复: @Vojkan
  113. Desert Fox 说:
    @Mark Thomason

    She will be crushed just like Ron Paul , the Zionists rule the U.S. and anyone who is for peace will never succeed in the Zionist controlled U.S., and congress would more accurately be called the lower house of the Knesset.

    Ross Perot was our last chance and everything he predicted has come to pass.

  114. Wally 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    说过:
    “What’s more, in sharp contrast to pretty much every war hawk in Congress, she actually served in the US armed forces.”

    And so did John McCain.

    • 哈哈: Cloak And Dagger
    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  115. Hank 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    The terms “antiwar” and “prowar” are not descriptive enough of one person’s leanings and an important trait that carries even more weight than pro or anti war is a person’s PROVEN stance on ACCOUNTABILITY of government employees and officials. If someone opposes a particular war that the USA is involved in, that doesn’t make them “anti-war” if that war is PROVABLY based on lies and faulty intelligence. If Americans disapprove or wars that ARE based on lies(and most if not ALL wars are!) then those Americans are TRUE Americans Constitutionally-speaking but not necessarily “anti-war”!

    An example would be fighting Fascism in WW2 embodied in Nazi Germany as opposed to “creating” war in Syria as a pretext to “humanitarian” intervention. War IS necessary if the USA is REALLY threatened, but just the opposite has transpired since WW2. The profits from wars are an inducement to “lie” the USA into even more “endless wars”. Let’s not insult Gabbard’s intelligence on this issue, because she IS a veteran and I’m quite sure she is more in the “pro-truth, anti-lie” segment than the “anti-war” one. I like most Americans would rather have a realistic leader instead of a rubber stamp for the MIC!

    • 同意: Desert Fox
    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @Wally
  116. She is a Democrat, and she aligns with the party of nut-cases, crazies, blue-haired freaks and communists, such as crazy MM, out in ca. , and I am guessing that nobody here, outside of my humble self, has any military history to speak of and therefore they simply do not grasp that there is something weird and contradictory about a military officer who is also a Democrat.
    It just doesn’t jibe, and there are enough specific examples of such individuals, officers as Democrats, who turned out to be total oddballs and destructive for the nation.

    1973年以来一直是Authenticjazzman“ Mensa”的资格,经过机师培训的美国陆军兽医和专业爵士演奏家。

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  117. @Anon

    我不支持 我们可以 in any way ( although I will be seriously considering voting for them in the next national and European elections so as to counter the far-right…whatever so as to curtail the fascist, the disguised ( Ciudadanos, PP ) and the crudely naked ( VOX….), nor it is true that Pablo Iglesias has bought a house worth that price, in any case, it seems that he along with his wife, both deputies at Spanish Congress ( and Pablo also MEP…) and thus with good wages, have subscribed a mortagage worth whatever, like everybody else with such good wages.

    I neither aprove nor dissaprove that, due the current wages for parliamentaries, which I am more keen on lowing them considerably. But that would be part of a communist program, and you see, Communism is not on fashion, but it is “populism”, be it left or right.

    What I support is what Juan Carlos Monedero is saying at that moment, which, as most what he says, has not only a lot of sense but also much of truth. He does not hold any position/charge at 我们可以, or anywhere else, but continue being a professor, and I fear living at his home of always, in Madrid city. I know very well certain people of 我们可以 in the Basque Country whom I strongly oposite by their methods and treacherous ideology who are there only placed by the PTB to dinamite the left into pieces, disband it and disable it to win any elections, in a prospect of acute crisis of capitalism, already in its final stage, imperialism, and exponentially increasing social unrest which only could point to a natural turn of the people to rising the left to power.

    The harassment of Venezuela, apart from “getting the oil”, could be inscribed also into this strategy of the hegemonic powers…

  118. HEL 说:

    Gabbard is going nowhere, and while it’s true that the powers that be will try to bury her, they don’t need to. The simple truth is this: the American public largely doesn’t care about the wars and never has. There hasn’t been an anti-war movement of any significance since Bush left office, and that was mostly a phony anti-war movement in the first place. It was primarily an anti-Bush movement, and the bulk of the people screaming ‘no blood for oil’ would’ve just been screaming some other anti-Bush slogan had our current path of destruction through the Mideast never occurred. Yes, there has always been a small, independent-minded minority on both the right and left who genuinely oppose American interventionism. The vast majority of voters, though, don’t care much, don’t have strong opinions and will largely just follow their leaders. Rank and file Democrats now oppose drawing down from Syria and Afghanistan and want to ‘contain’ Russia. This is solely because Trump has made noises in the opposite direction, even if he hasn’t done much of anything. And a good portion of the Republicans who say they want out of these wars would support them if Jeb or Rubio were in the White House. There is a fair bit more genuine antiwar sentiment on the right now than there was 15 years ago. But it’s not a dominant issue for many people on the right who didn’t always oppose the wars from the get-go. And the mainstream left, again, has totally abandoned the issue.

    Only a tiny proportion of the American public considers the endless wars to be the most important issue facing America today. You don’t win campaigns focusing on issues that are regarded as unimportant and where most of the voters in your party oppose you on this point. There is no real antiwar movement. Another full-scale invasion of a previously stable country would generate some serious opposition, sure, but the current slow bleed of endless occupations and occasional opportunistic attacks on already destabilizing regimes can continue forever with little pushback from the public at large. How anyone could live through the last 15 years of American politics and not realize this is beyond me.

    • 回复: @RobinG
  119. KenH 说:
    @Art

    That one trick happens to the most important trick that America is facing.

    No Art, that would be unchecked legal and illegal immigration and as far as I can tell Tulsi Gandhi is pretty dreadful on that subject. True, the likudniks in the diaspora don’t like her because she would be bad for an expansionist Israel but that doesn’t stop her from paying obeisance to the Jewish holohoax and virtue signaling that it can never be allowed to happen again.

    If elected Tulsi would probably become a Jew tool just like Trump has become. If not, then they’ll have another special counsel ready to take her down. That’s how the (((deep state))) operates.

    • 回复: @Art
  120. @Wally

    ” Unfortunately peace abroad does not necessarily translate itno peace at home”

    Great observation as these odious types of politicians wage their wars toward the US working population, and she, TG, is no different than EW/HC/BC/BO.

    阿杰姆

  121. @peterAUS

    Isn’t the bottom, the very heart of the matter … simple, eternal, laziness and stupidity of an average person?

    对。

    Laziness of the voting public, in particular.

    Too lazy to question much, if anything.

    Too lazy to study.

    Too lazy to learn.

    Too lazy to think.

    Too lazy to move beyond some glib, mindless cliches such and “Hope and Change,” MAGA, etc.

    Too lazy to even admit the truth.

    Too lazy to do much, if anything, more than cast a ballot for some lying schmuck lesser of two evils every coupla years and hope for the best.

    Too lazy,even, to take down some ragged tattered flag during inclement weather…

  122. Priss Factor [又名“ Asagirian”] 说: • 您的网站

    Americans laugh at Banana Republics, but the US is a Bagel Republic.

    • 同意: Wally
    • 哈哈: Fatima Manoubia
    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  123. @Anonymous

    She has that true conviction that cannot be faked. An integrity based in continuity of character, apparent to the aware critical study of human expression, composure and behavior.

    Also what I see, you have not but watch her eyes…those never lie to you…when you are perceptive….

    You seem the most reasonable here, monsieur, really a rarity, welcome, although, I glimpse, you and I are in fact at opposite sides of the political spectre, I think we could reach an agreement on basics to keep peace and positive development of the world.

    Continue writting your points here, if you have the time, please. More than anything, to counter such ammount of discouraging dudes.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  124. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Wally

    Yea, John McCain was a truly historic person. So far, he was the only person in history who managed to totally disable an American aircraft carrier. Of course, he was not found guilty of anything: after all, having Admirals for your dad and granddad counts for something in squeaky-clean military.

    • 回复: @anarchyst
  125. @Hank

    An example would be fighting Fascism in WW2 embodied in Nazi Germany…

    “We” were lied into that one as well and the one before it, and fighting fascism had nothing to do with it unless you know something nobody else does.

    Both were unnecessary, especially involvement by the US, and especially WW2. Churchill admitted “2” was unnecessary, upwards of 90% of Americans at the time knew it (and some 97% were against getting involved in it), Pat Buchanan wrote a book about it, and Hamilton Fish stated that it was unnecessary no less than 5 times in his 119 page book about Red FDR’s perfidious lies, “Tragic Deception,” which is a must read for anyone who cares to know the truth about ‘Merkin involvement in WW2.

    • 回复: @follyofwar
  126. @Cratylus

    Why then is she pushing for getting out of Syria and opposing regime change there

    Have you heard the phrase: One sparrow does not summer make ?

    TPTB know the public is averse to wars, so what better soundbites to pepper the campaign promises of their chosen acolytes and sock puppets? Remember, even W rode into town on the “no nation building” promise horse, and preemptive “Nobel Peace Prize” winner Obama personally supervised drone bombing and assassinating Americans, even a 16-year old.

    Perhaps she is the real thing, perhaps not. Once burnt, twice shy. For now, Rand Paul, with all his flaws, and the annoying pandering to jewish forces, is still the front runner in a race of limited choices (if you believe that you have a choice in the nominations).

    • 回复: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  127. @Priss Factor

    Perfectionist with names & calling things accurately as to what the USA is become, & with wit, Asigirian acidly wrote: “Americans laugh at Banana Republics, but the US is a Bagel Republic.”

    Thumbs up!🤗 And thank you!

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  128. @Rich

    Not for me, anyway.

    Oh, c’mon! What are you some old fart ‘er sumpin? Doncha know she’s “sexy” (like that goofy airhead from Alaska, and unlike the Hag Hyena) and therefore perfectly qualified and ready to dictate (with a little friendly guidance from disinterested but bloodlusty banksters) to a nation of a third of a billion poeple?

    What are you anyway, antee-‘Merkin er sumthin? 😉

  129. follyofwar 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    I’d vote for Tulsi in a minute, but she is carrying quite a bit of baggage. Disregarding her schizophrenic position on Israel, and also her anti-war creds, I see the following:
    1) She is definitely a liberal on social issues, having been a Bernie Sanders supporter. Of course, that could be a plus.
    2) What is her position on immigration? If she is pro-immigration, which I’d bet she is, that would turn off the growing anti-immigrant community.
    3) Is she even eligible? She was born in American Samoa, and did not move to Hawaii with her parents until she was two. Could that be a legal obstacle? I don’t know. Some thought that Ted Cruz, born in Canada, wasn’t eligible either.
    4) She is a Hindu, which might be a problem for many Christians.
    5) She has been divorced and is now remarried. Also, she has no children, which I think most voters like to see in a leader, as it represents a commitment to the future. Just look at all the childless leaders in Europe (Macron, Merkel, and Edna May for example) and what they have done to their countries.

    So, Tulsi does have a lot of obstacles. Still, I hope she overcomes them. Getting pregnant ASAP, before it’s too late, wouldn’t hurt either.

  130. renfro 说:
    @Harold Smith

    The thing is, if we don’t get some actual peace, soon, nothing else will matter at all.

    That is true. Unfortunately many people are like mules with blinders, plowing along with their one obsession, be it blacks, immigration, guns, whatever.
    Unless we end our foreign adventures spending their new obsession will be going thru garbage cans for food.

  131. @jack daniels

    Thank God [the Russians] have nukes.

    Thank somebody that they also have brains and balls, and they know how to use ’em too. Too bad 没有 US politician will ever put America first or do anything but sell us out for a handful of shekels, and 懒惰 ‘Merkins will give jaw support to anyone pretending to drape itself in the flag.

  132. @Anonymous

    Can she operate and deal in the DC shark beltway as an effective executive power broker? Without being broken by the political machine?

    Short answer.:

    没有

    Long answer.:

    I’d like to see evidence that a decent person stands a chance.

    PS: Remember what happened to antiwar Navy Seal, Jesse Ventura at just the state level, for instance.

  133. @ChuckOrloski

    … but the US is a Bagel Republic.”

    Perfect. Right down to the hole…

    As in _ung.

  134. Wally 说:
    @Hank

    “An example would be fighting Fascism in WW2 embodied in Nazi Germany … ”

    Except that NS Germany did nothing worse than the Allies, and in most cases, much less.

    There were no ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and Germany certainly did not start WWII.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  135. HiHo 说:

    Nothing in the US is ‘for real’! The whole scam is run by and for the obscenely rich paedophile schizophrenic elite.
    No one in their right mind wants an ex or serving military officer running a country. Especially a reserve officer who may have joined for the money and prestige such a job would give her in politics with the sort of suckers that think a military can be a force for good.
    The entire political elite in the USA is pure evil. QED

    • 同意: jacques sheete
  136. Tulsi Gabbard is a Hindu Nationalist.

    Charles Schumer is a Jew Nationalist.

    Anglo-Norman George Washington and Scotch-Irish Andrew Jackson were White Nationalists.

    Nationalism and patriotism are good.

    Globalization and Multiculturalism are bad.

    Tulsi Gabbard seems like a nice lady, but she pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Tulsi Gabbard takes a nice picture, especially the picture of her with Shelly Adelson’s wife. Sneaky!

    Shelly Adelson is a Jew Nationalist.

    犹太民族主义者查尔斯舒默说:

    “在以色列和美国,犹太民族生活——现在和永远”

    • 回复: @follyofwar
  137. kula 说:

    Can she operate and deal in the DC shark beltway as an effective executive power broker? Without being broken by the political machine?

    Maybe you got to be broke before you step into the arena. Trump was. In backing Planned Parenthood and in walking back her activism protesting same sex marriage, Gabbard has stepped away from Hindu ideas on karma. Since she has broken so many taboos maybe she can take on the machine.

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  138. follyofwar 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Agreed, but I question the percentages against it that you enumerated. When you quote that 90% of Americans were opposed to entering WWII, that sounds more like those against entering WWI to me. After Pearl Harbor, which no one at the time thought that FDR provoked, Americans were looking for blood. And, remember, Hitler, being an ally of Japan, declared war on the US, which further strengthened the resolve for war against Germany. How could the US have backed down after Hitler’s stupid provocation?

  139. @Wally

    Except that NS Germany did nothing worse than the Allies…

    NS Germany under the allies did nothing approaching the evil that the allies did (it was on the defensive in contrast to their offensive, aggressive trouble making), including the wunnerful one represented by the red, white, and blue; you know, the one that supports the criminal state of Israel today, whose “head’ has an orange one.

    只有 懒惰 ‘Merkins believe otherwise,and only 懒惰 ones vote for the lesser of two evils, both of whom support Israel first.

    • 回复: @Wally
  140. Anonymous[168]• 免责声明 说:

    Tulsi is to be lauded for what she sacrificed to support Sanders and seems genuine to me. I hope she gets the nomination, but I don’t think I can make myself vote for a gun-grabber. She does at least have technical knowledge of firearms, unlike most of the anti-2nd amendment politicians.

  141. follyofwar 说:
    @jack daniels

    “Russia…is relapsing into a Christian and politically incorrect society, the last one in Europe.”

    Really? Did you forget about Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, and now Catholic Italy is finally waking up. In several Euro countries it appears that the Right is in ascendance.

    • 回复: @gsjackson
  142. anonymous[117]• 免责声明 说:
    @PeterMX

    Dr. Kevin MacDonald points out interesting facts about how Europeans (whites) are more individualistic and not tied to their race/people the way people originating from the middle east are (Jews and Muslims).

    Utter nonsense! Let me guess, this “Dr.” Kevin MacDonald is a whitey?

    Until Europeans/Whites work as a group to advance their interests

    The whiteys have been working as a supremacist group since centuries. They have been carving up the world in their own colonial regions, and plundering it together.

    How do you think a current loser nation like Hungary could have built cities like Budapest? And, Belgium, etc…

    Greed, Plunder, Psychopathy, thy name is Eurape.

  143. @follyofwar

    Agreed, but I question the percentages against it that you enumerated.

    I got them out of Fish’s book which is one of the few that I was unable to access via pdf for some reason. I knew the numbers were high, but his surprised me a bit too.

    Just this AM I tried to find an online version of the book so I could substantiate my claim as I try to do always, but was unable to, so you can believe me or not. Either way is fine with me. All I can do is present the best info I can.

    Thanks for questioning it.

    If you can get a copy, look on page 50. Here’s a direct quote, which I typed just for you.

    [At the time of the Danzig crisis] over 96% of the American people, and the Congress, were opposed to joining another European war. Seven months later when Hitler’s armed forces invaded Norway, a Gallup poll showed 3% of the American people in favor of entering the war and 97% in favor of keeping out…Over the years the percentage was reduced from 97 to approximately 85% and remained the same right up to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    • 回复: @follyofwar
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
  144. follyofwar 说:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Exactly why I’m not in full support of Tulsi. Regardless of her anti-war creds (remember Obama and Trump both got elected on anti-war rhetoric too), what happens if she, like those two, cannot stand up to the Military Industrial Complex? The wars will continue, and, along with it, millions of new immigrants to boot. Full me once, shame on you; full me twice, shame on me.

    Nonetheless, I have no idea what you mean about Tulsi being a Hindu Nationalist. Unlike the Jewish Mafia, I doubt if we’re in any danger of Hindus taking over the country.

    • 回复: @Charles Pewitt
  145. @follyofwar

    而且,请记住,作为日本的盟友,希特勒向美国宣战,这进一步增强了对德开战的决心。 在希特勒愚蠢的挑衅之后,美国怎么可能退缩?

    Don’t forget that some New York Jews declared war on Hitler in 1933. That was the same year that FDR also recognized the Soviet Union after Stalin had wrapped up his Ukrainian Holocaust (the Holodomor) of 7 million, and Hitler was just coming into office.

    Here’s a piece about the Jewish declaration of war several years before Hitler was finally goaded by FDR into declaring war on the US. FDR had been waging 未声明 war against Germany for some years prior. Please note all this was in addition to the Marxist agitation for permanent world revolution which directly affected Germany (riots and assassinations and what not) and their boycott came at a particularly vulnerable time for Germany.

    https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  146. @follyofwar

    How could the US have backed down after Hitler’s stupid provocation?

    Yer a good guy, so let me say this with tons of respect…you got that backwards.

    FDR and the bankster Commies had been provoking the Germans before he declared war.

    Your comment should have been, how could Hitler (like the Kaiser before him) be so patient and forbearing?

  147. renfro 说:

    Here’s the Jewish pilpul on Ilhan Omar. It is this kind of tripe that disapproves the theory of higher Jewish intelligence. Maybe the Jews need a lesson from the Jesuits on how to propagandize without being obvious propaganda.

    How To Speak About The Israel Lobby In A Non-Anti-Semitic Way
    https://forward.com/opinion/419476/how-to-speak-about-the-israel-lobby-in-a-non-anti-semitic-way/

    ”Don’t Use Anti-Semitic Tropes To Silence Jews Decrying Anti-Semitism….(That one is priceless..lol)
    One of the most unfortunate responses to the Omar brouhaha was how many people came out to say that Omar was right – because Jews do use money to silence criticism of Israel.
    This is deeply disturbing. It’s a gross combination of gaslighting and repeating the very things that have horrified Jews in the first place.

    Don’t double down on Jewish stereotypes. If in your denials that you’re being anti-Semitic, you find yourself accusing Jews or “Zionists” of using their power and money to smear and silence you, think about how that looks to us.”…(No you Jews think about what you do)

    They don’t parade it because it’s not popular. So while AIPAC does have a lot of support, it is hardly controlling U.S. politicians with money. It is rather offering them a pro-Israel credential.
    If this bothers you, your problem is not really with AIPAC, but with the millions of (mostly non-Jewish) Americans who want to know their elected officials support Israel unconditionally

    We can argue about whether AIPAC should be allowed to take U.S. politicians to Israel business class. We can even argue about whether AIPAC should register as a foreign agent, though given that 92% of American Jews consider themselves “pro-Israel,” this might be a hard case to make”

    Many, including the entire Democratic leadership, felt that Omar’s words invoked an anti-Semitic trope. Her tweet conjured the image of a Jewish cabal using cash to control the levers of power, which was reinforced when she named AIPAC (in response to a query from me); in the wake of Democratic censure, Omar duly apologized

    Attacking Ilhan Omar Isn’t Fighting Anti-Semitism. It’s Upholding White Supremacy.
    Rebecca PierceFebruary 15, 2019

    But others felt that Omar needn’t have apologized, and defended her on the grounds that she was simply pointing out a fact: that AIPAC does lobby for Israel — hard — raising millions of dollars to lobby for what it considers pro-Israel policies on the Hill, and sending U.S. representatives on fancy trips to Israel to convince them to support the Jewish state. These voices have insisted that it’s not anti-Semitic to point out the truth and criticize the “Israel Lobby.”
    Of course it’s not. AIPAC does have a lot of financial muscle. It is a powerful, well-run, well-funded lobby which is worthy of attention, discussion, and criticism. But it’s all about how you do it. Here are a few tips for avoiding anti-Semitic language while discussing the “Israel Lobby.”
    准确无误
    Our entire history is littered with stories of entire Jewish communities being ethnically cleansed and murdered by people who accused them of scheming, money-grubbing, subverting the good of their countries for their own purposes, and causing whatever ill happens to be plaguing a society. It is a long and awful history, and the grammar of these accusations is one that most Jews recognize instinctively.
    It was that long, devastating history that Omar evoked in her tweet, perhaps unwittingly.
    Of course, it’s fair to criticize AIPAC. But Omar did not criticize AIPAC. She characterized it, in a way that is false, and that got the story of AIPAC’s influence wrong in a way that played right into anti-Semitic tropes.
    对于初学者, AIPAC’s influence comes not from “Benjamins” or even from Jews, but from the American people, who are incredibly pro-Israel overall, especially on the right. What AIPAC leverages is not campaign contributions, which it does not make, but the already existing popularity of Israel among many politicians’ constituents.
    Compare Israel to the Gulf state lobby and you’ll see how this works. As Evan Gottesman put it in Haaretz, “Spending on lobbying and PR efforts on behalf of several Arab governments well outpaced similar pro-Israel expenses last year. Yet you don’t see American officials parading their support for Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates in front of voters.”
    They don’t parade it because it’s not popular. So while AIPAC does have a lot of support, it is hardly controlling U.S. politicians with money. It is rather offering them a pro-Israel credential.
    If this bothers you, your problem is not really with AIPAC, but with the millions of (mostly non-Jewish) Americans who want to know their elected officials support Israel unconditionally
    .
    The best proof for this is that as Democratic support for Israel has been on the wane, so has AIPAC’s clout. The fact that all the Democratic presidential hopefuls save one – Amy Klobuchar – voted against legislation that would allow states to boycott Israel’s boycotters shows that AIPAC is not all-powerful, and that its abilities are on the wane.
    Of course, AIPAC spends money. It spent around $3.5 million on lobbying in 2018. But as Aiden Pink has pointed out in these pages, most of its power comes from citizen activists and donors. This comes down to individual Americans looking to AIPAC to know how best to work on behalf of something that personally matters to them — as is their constitutional right.
    Not everyone has to be up on all the details of different Jewish organizations. But if you want to criticize a people who have been literally mass murdered on the basis of the ideas you may be invoking, you should be careful to stick to the facts.

    具体
    We can argue about whether AIPAC should be allowed to take U.S. politicians to Israel business class. We can even argue about whether AIPAC should register as a foreign agent, though given that 92% of American Jews consider themselves “pro-Israel,” this might be a hard case to make.
    But if you want to avoid conjuring
    an anti-Semitic stereotype, even unwittingly, stick to the specifics.
    If you’re upset the U.S. gives Israel unconditional support despite anti-Democratic measures like the racist Nation State bill and the entrenchment of the Occupation of millions of Palestinians, and that the U.S. makes no demands that Israel stop oppressing the Palestinians in exchange for the billions of dollars in aid we supply it, you’re not alone. Many Jews share this frustration. And as an American taxpayer, you are absolutely entitled to this non-anti-Semitic opinion.
    So say that. Stick to actual things AIPAC does in your criticism. Talk about specific problems you have with Israel’s conduct and the U.S.’s support of that conduct, and the people who lobby for this support. Be specific about the things you wish AIPAC, or the U.S. government didn’t do.
    Do not allow your criticism to balloon into the kinds of vague attacks that well-known anti-Semites use when discussing Jews.
    Avoid Blaming Jews And Jewish Money For Things That Only Happen Because Christians Exist

    • 回复: @Wally
  148. Tulsi Gabbard isn’t a sub-continental Indian, but a quarter Samoan, and a lot of German and other European ancestries.

    Some Germans, like those in the Paul family, ain’t so hot on overseas war.

    She is doing pretty good at a New Hampshire town hall right now as I type.

    Her mother, who is of European descent, somehow was a Hindu.

    Gabbard’s mother was a hippie? Nutcake baby boomer?

    Who knows, early in NH.

  149. follyofwar 说:
    @jacques sheete

    When I wrote my comment, it hadn’t dawned on me that you were speaking of the US public’s opposition to the war prior to Pearl Harbor. With your clarification, I now agree.

    I was think WWI as Wilson was re-elected in 1916 vowing to keep the US out of European wars. He couldn’t have won on a pro-war platform. All along he had planned to stab the voters in the back and join the war on the side of the British.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  150. Muggles 说:
    @Anonymous

    My current ideal scenario in 2020 is for Trump to “promote” Pence to something like UN Ambassador or other harmless post, and for Trump to announce his “fusion” ticket as Trump-Gabbard for 2020.

    Of course Gabbard would have to agree. But Trump wasn’t a GOP loyalist and Gabbard gets zero love from her party, so why not? An antiwar woman with a military record (who else has that?) with some populist ideas and credibility would fit in with Trump’s own agenda.

    Sure she has a few odd biographical details, but compared to the rest of the political mob she’s practically Mother Theresa. She’s also somewhat nonwhite, attractive, electable, smart and courageous, politically and personally. The Hate Trump Mafia all also hate her.

    Can you imagine the horror in the MSM if this ticket were to emerge? A non SJW but feminist war vet? Sincerely anti war, more so than most Republicans. She would easily split or take much of the female vote and progressive anti corporatist vote away from whatever Leninist ticket the Dems serve up. And there is some historical precedent for a fusion ticket, though not recently. But Americans don’t really love party labels that much. Trump-Gabbard 2020. Peace & Prosperity.

  151. @kula

    kula asked: “Can she (Tulsi Gabbard) operate and deal in the DC shark beltway as an effective executive power broker? Without being broken by the political machine?”

    Hi kula, am pleased to rap with you here!

    First off, I believe Tulsi can do the ZUSA- hula and subsequently, she is “real.”

    Second, when making headway as a viable presidential candidate, the person must be (certifiably) “pre-broken,” and trusted to lead in a manner that’s required by Israel, Jewish Lobbies, the Military-Industrial-Security-Complex, Wall Street, and major (international) corporations.

    For the sake of maintaining a majority population of “good feelies,” * the Talmudic conventional wisdom teaches that POTUS’s are “executive power brokers.” Wrong!

    Prior to inauguration day, our pre-made Presidents are usefully broken-down and retrofitted executives. They’re talented exhibitionists who stand for “principled” rah-rah (cockeyed) lesser issues, 🤗 and will obediently do the BIG stuff which powers tell them to do. Or else!

    Thanks, kula!

    * “Feelies” is from Huxley’s “Brave New World.” For modern example, the Academy Award winning film “American Sniper” was a good “feelies.”

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  152. Anonymous [AKA "Erin Kyle"] 说:

    Tulsi isn’t the perfect candidate but if being anti-war is your most pressing issue, this is your gal.

  153. @ChuckOrloski

    They’re talented exhibitionists who stand for “principled” rah-rah (cockeyed) lesser issues, 🤗 and will obediently do the BIG stuff which powers tell them to do. Or else!

    And the lazy ones fall for the lies of the exhibitionists, even the Izzie Firsters, no matter how transparent, every time.

    “We” lazy ‘Merkins better get up off our lard butts, turn off the teevee, and roll up our sleeves. Hey, I can dream can’t I???

    I know where people keep looking for charity (and security), but where do they get their faith and hope?

  154. @follyofwar

    [Wilson] couldn’t have won on a pro-war platform.

    True, and neither could have FDR or The Shrub or Obomber or Trump or the Cackling Hyena to name just a few.

    I’m sure you’ll agree that one simply cannot judge a politician or even a wannabe by what it says. Ever.

    Politics is first and foremost the art of seduction, and I can be quoted on that. (As an aside, given that, how could anyone be surprised that The Cackling Hyena lost?)

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  155. anarchyst 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Not only that, but McCain’s “daddy” admiral was instrumental in covering up the deliberate Israeli “act of war”-the attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on June 8, 1967.

    • 同意: Desert Fox
    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @Art
  156. Anon[425]• 免责声明 说: • 您的网站

    First they came after Trumpers. Now, the come after anti-war leftists.

  157. Anonymous[846]• 免责声明 说:

    She has no chance at all. She does not kiss up to the Israel Lobby, so she’s a non-starter.

  158. RobinG 说:
    @jack daniels

    About Ukraine/Crimea, my first source (2014) was a talk by Ray McGovern. He’s written articles, as have many others. There’s an excellent film called “Ukraine on Fire” by Igor Lopatonok. http://ukraineonfire.com/

    On Russia, I highly recommend Alex Krainer’s book,
    大欺骗:比尔·布劳德的真相,《马格尼茨基法案》和反俄罗斯制裁 https://www.redpillpress.com/shop/grand-deception-bill-browder-magnitsky-act-russian-sanctions/
    Browder was one of the “Harvard Boys,” white collar criminals who, together with Russian oligarchs, took advantage of the drunken Yeltsin years to pillage former Soviet resources. For the best financial analysis, see Lucy Komisar, https://www.thekomisarscoop.com/

    This is not only history. Browder is a key figure in RussiaGate. I’m not a Trump-lover, but I’m an adamant defender of his legitimacy as President, and the liars who have spoiled his [good] intentions for better relations with Russia are traitors. There’s a movie, 马格尼茨基法案-幕后 , that covers almost same as book, Grand Deception, now free online.



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  159. gsjackson 说:
    @follyofwar

    I’ve spent five months in the Czech Republic. It’s pretty secularized. A Polish woman once told me of the Czechs: “They lost their religion under communism, we didn’t.” But the Czechs do seem to be developing a healthy skepticism about the Zio-west and its empire project.

  160. RobinG 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Americans think they are House Niggers …. so far.

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  161. RobinG 说:
    @Wally

    Oh, look: Wally, EliteCreep and Chuckie, all rolling in the same shit together.

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  162. Wally 说:
    @jacques sheete

    You are quite right, I over stated Germany’s involvement for the purpose of subtlety.

    I find that it actually knocks the indoctrinated through a loop to say, ‘NS Germany did nothing worse than the Allies’.
    现在 will start a conversation, or at least put a seed in their brains which will always remain.

    But it’s not just a lot of Americans who believe in Zionist WWII propaganda, religious belief in the impossible is rampant throughout the west.

    Do notice how they run from debate.

    干杯。

  163. RobinG 说:
    @HEL

    Sad but true. There must be some clearly self-serving motive to get any traction.

  164. @Rich

    ‘Tulsi is a far Left democrat. She supports raising taxes to pay for free college for people earning less than 125K and universal health care, she actually joined protesters against the Dakota Access Pipeline, has a 100% rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood, supports homosexual marriage (changed her previous position in 2012), and has an F rating from the NRA. She’s a Lefty. Not for me, anyway.’

    If she can lead us away from serving Israel, we’ll just have to swallow all that.

    Sometimes, the most important thing is to stop sinning. Then, forgiveness becomes possible.

    …If Pat Buchanan throws his hat in the ring, I’ll change my vote. Until then…

  165. @Cloak And Dagger

    OMG I never heard that expression either.You just invented it?
    Sparrows do not migrate. They survive the winter.
    Correct expression is this.
    One swallow does not make a spring. (Swallows eat strictly only flying insects, which is none in the winter.)

    • 回复: @Cloak And Dagger
  166. Wally 说: • 您的网站
    @renfro

    说过:
    “Avoid Blaming Jews And Jewish Money For Things That Only Happen Because Christians Exist”
    LOL
    It’s Jews, their unearned money, and their impossible “holocaust” propaganda that buys & influences some Christians.
    固定。
    推荐的:
    寄生虫以色列的真实成本,美国纳税人被迫向以色列提供的资金远远超出了官方数字。: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    • 回复: @renfro
  167. AnonFromTN 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Ukrainian Holocaust (the Holodomor) of 7 million

    Another true believer in the Deep State BS. Why don’t you buy just as enthusiastically the rest of BS coming from the same source: Holocaust, multi-culti, open borders, LGBT normalcy, you name it?

  168. Wally 说:
    @follyofwar

    说过:
    “How could the US have backed down after Hitler’s stupid provocation?”

    事实:
    –在德国对美国宣战之前很久,“中立”的美国一直在攻击德国的U型船和航运,同时向英国和苏联提供物资。
    –苏联入侵了芬兰,拉脱维亚,爱沙尼亚,立陶宛,波兰,入侵并吞并了罗马尼亚的部分地区,入侵了伊朗,入侵了挪威北部和丹麦的博恩霍尔姆岛,但“盟国”没有采取任何行动。
    –波兰入侵并吞并了捷克领土的大部分地区,捷克斯洛伐克占领了德国的大部分地区,对德国平民实施暴行。 然而,“盟国”什么也没做。
    –在德国到达并制止它之前,英国人入侵并在纳尔维克(Narvik)开采挪威。
    –法国在比利时边境安置了2万士兵,而BEF又有近XNUMX万。
    –法国和英国已经通过在低地上空飞行飞机而违反了比利时和荷兰的“中立性”,而不受惩罚。
    –重要的是要记住,法国已经在1939年入侵德国萨尔,在整个时期中,希特勒一直在乞求丘吉尔谈判恢复原状。

    • 回复: @follyofwar
    , @Anon
  169. AnonFromTN 说:
    @jacques sheete

    – 你怎么知道政客在撒谎?
    ——他的嘴唇在动。

    • 回复: @Art
    , @jacques sheete
  170. @jacques sheete

    Sorry! You are incorrect. Hitler did not invade Norway. Quizling did sign cooperation pact with Hitler. If there were some German units in Norway they were there on Quizling request.
    As I see it now the lie was not your idea but of some moron.

    • 回复: @Wally
    , @jacques sheete
  171. Art 说:
    @KenH

    No Art, that would be unchecked legal and illegal immigration and as far as I can tell Tulsi Gandhi is pretty dreadful on that subject.

    The whole subject of Gabbard favoring this or that, is mute – she will never become president – there is not a chance in hell.

    The Jews will never let it happen – PERIOD. The Jews will politically murder her – PERIOD.

    We must hope that she gets in the debates and make noises about peace – that would be a big win.

    Right now, all the rest refuse to bring up the subject of peace.

    思考和平-艺术

    • 回复: @KenH
  172. @renfro

    Modi a dictator? You are a moron! Besides, White-Christian America isn’t going to elect a Hindoo… nothing to worry!

  173. Priss Factor [又名“ Asagirian”] 说: • 您的网站

    The US cries out in pain as it strikes out on Iran.

    • 同意: Agent76
    • 回复: @Agent76
  174. Tulsi does not have a faintest idea that she will be “Dancing with wolves”.
    I can’t wait until she will come on TV crying: “They do not let me do anything I want to”

  175. Art 说:
    @anarchyst

    Not only that, but McCain’s “daddy” admiral was instrumental in covering up the deliberate Israeli “act of war”-the attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on June 8, 1967.

    The cause for the USS Liberty is stronger today then it ever was. – it is not going away.

    When Israel needs the US government the most – The Liberty will get in the way. Truth will out!

    思考和平-艺术

    • 回复: @Desert Fox
  176. Art 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    – How do you know the politician is lying?
    – His lips are moving.

    The only time a politician tells the truth is when he is telling you how bad his opponent is.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @Art
  177. I won’t comment further except to say that I concur with Phil’s assessment of Tulsi Gabbard.

  178. Anonymous [AKA "Pelosi\'s Palestinian Chair"] 说:

    The authoritative, definitive reason why Tulsi’s not for real is very simple. She’s a Democrat. People of color with 3-digit IQs know that Democrats exist to absorb and destroy reform initiatives.

    https://blackagendareport.com/left-must-finally-break-democrats

    If Tulsi’s willing be be a Judas steer and lead Dem dupes to slaughter at the hands of the Zionazi kleptocrats who bought them, then she will continue to rise. If, on the other hand, she sees through it and doesn’t fall for it, like Cynthia McKinney or Alan Grayson, then she’ll be shit through a goose.

    Democrats are fake reformers. They need to be poisoned and shit out like the parasitic corporate hookworms that they are.

    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @AnonFromTN
  179. Schuey 说:

    While I completely disagree with her on economic matters, she is a breath of fresh air in terms of war and peace. Not since Ron Paul has a principled anti war candidate emerged and I wish her well. This also means like Ron, she will be incessantly attacked, because the war machine doesn’t want it’s pockets getting lighter. Let’s go Tulsi!!!

  180. @RobinG

    RobinG said: “Oh, look: Wally, EliteCreep and Chuckie, all rolling in the same shit together.”

    嗨,罗宾!

    Regarding your sweet “shit” comment, above, and being (40-Hour) OSHA-Hazwopper Emergency Response certified, I am obligated to remove my infectious waste P.P.E., including surgical plus (+) outer layer of iffen neoprene gloves, and in a Kool song, iffen respond to you, (disco style), below:

    谢谢你,罗宾格!

    Selah, “All things created by G_d,” uh…, presumably dog excrement too?

  181. RobinG 说:
    @Anonymous

    ?? __Alan Grayson????? You’re kidding, right? He opposed Obama bombing Syria (2013 “red line” crap) but he’s top tier Zio Israel supporter. He lost re-election by himself. Domestic violence allegations didn’t help.

  182. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Art

    Yea, I forgot about that. They don’t need to lie when they badmouth each other.

  183. Mike G 说:

    Another Charlatan like Trump, she will fold like a cheap pup tent like all those before her have

  184. Mike G 说:

    Howard Dean? what rock did that asshat crawl out of

  185. Cato 说:

    美国已准备好成为真正的和平候选人

    Hey, I’m ready — voted for Bernie in the primaries (what a pleasure to vote against Hilary!) . I will vote for anyone who is pro-peace and immigration-skeptical, regardless of party.

    • 同意: Mike P
    • 回复: @Mike P
    , @Wally
    , @jacques sheete
  186. Desert Fox 说:
    @Art

    Neither the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY or the Israeli attack on WTC ever got in the way of the Zionists, in fact the U.S. went to war with Iraq and Libya and Syria all for Zionist Israel!

    Israel caused the death of 34 and wounded 174 Americans on the USS LIBERTY and some 3000 Americans killed on the Israeli attack on the WTC on 911.

    America is under SATANIC ZIONIST CONTROL.

    • 同意: ChuckOrloski
    • 回复: @Colin Wright
  187. RobinG 说:

    Tulsi TV on the road – Townhall-style gathering in Keene, NH – TULSI 2020

    • 回复: @Fatima Manoubia
  188. The idea that government should be pretty much abolished (see comment #65) is often met with the criticism that this leads to anarchy. Surely you Americans have now proven that government is anarchy established. You are now trying to spread it around the world (viz Venezuela) in the name of stability and order.

    詹姆斯·巴克
    Penetanguishene ON 加拿大

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  189. Oh oh. Dis true, gwan make de boss man angry.

    ”Dirty Zionist Sh*t’: French Jewish Philosopher Alain Finkielkraut Attacked by Yellow Vest Protesters in Paris’

    —哈雷斯

  190. @Desert Fox

    ‘America is under SATANIC ZIONIST CONTROL.’

    ‘Satanic Zionist’ is redundant.

  191. Agent76 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Know this Asagirian. Sep 11, 2011 General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned – Seven Countries In Five Years

    “这是一份备忘录,描述了我们将如何在五年内将七个国家排除在外,首先是伊拉克,然后是叙利亚,黎巴嫩,利比亚,索马里,苏丹,最后是伊朗。” 我说:“它是机密的吗?” 他说:“是的,先生。” 我说:“好吧,别给我看。” 大约一年前,我见过他,我说:“你还记得吗?” 他说:“先生,我没给你看那条备忘录! 我没给你看!”

  192. Mike P 说:
    @Cato

    Not a U.S. citizen, but would vote for her or any outspoken peace candidate, even if just to send a message. If the voters express a clear wish for peace, and their wish is thwarted again, then at least this fact becomes obvious, and pressure for real change will mount. At some point, it will reach a breaking point – as it is doing for example in France, right now.

  193. @Tulip

    ‘Howard Dean’s already said she’s “unqualified” to be the Democratic nominee…

    That is to say, she’s not doggily submissive to Israel and prepared to do everything possible to advance Israel’s agenda.

  194. Anonymous [AKA "RDinHHeels"] 说: • 您的网站
    @Fatima Manoubia

    My views are most freedom with least harm.
    Which put me scattered over the arbitrary socially engineered politcal spectrum.
    Party politics are effectively divide, conquer, plunder the spoils, exploit and impoverish.

    I disliked Occasio Cortez. Bad Socialism is worse than crony Capitalism.
    Until I watched her congressional speaking scenario on campaign finance reform.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes the Problem of Dark Money in Politics.

    Its worth a watch, even if there is strong dislike.
    She is still crazy, but there’s some good crazy mixed in.
    The new blood in congress have developed during collapse of empire. I like the way they challenge the status quo.
    振作起来。

    Thanks for kind comments.
    We need those.
    I post maybe once a week here on the core critical articles that yank my chain.
    An ironic anon moniker.
    Maybe register, probably not.

    • 回复: @Fatima Manoubia
  195. renfro 说:

    Evidently Gabbard is not on the Trump re-election team’s watch list yet.

    The three 2020 Democrats Trump’s campaign is watching most closely

    The president’s campaign is collecting opposition research on Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker. Trump himself has his eye on Joe Biden

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/14/trump-2020-strategy-democrats-1169379

    I may have to write in Mel Gibson’s name in 2020.

  196. @RobinG

    Gallantly independent, definitely non-P.C., domesticated, and diggin’ Tulsi, RobinG said: “Americans think they are House Niggers …. so far.”

    嘿罗宾!

    Above, & speaking as a school bus driver/homemaker, ouch, that really hurts.

    Hmph. Ain’t no broad ever call me a “House Nigger” for supporting Jehovah Witness, Dr. Ben Carson!

    Refer to video below which displays an American time (1976) when a rootin-tootin’ Maven could call ‘ya a “viral bacterial strain,” and such words fall like iffen-water off of a Mad Cow back!

  197. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Anonymous

    It would have been funny if it didn’t apply to both parties equally. Puppets on two hands of the same puppet-master “fighting” each other for the benefit of gullible public. Democracy for the masses. Bread and circuses.

    • 同意: jacques sheete
  198. anonymous[117]• 免责声明 说:
    @sarz

    so gays can have fulfilling social and intimate lives

    Of course a hindoo would say that, won’t he? You know, given the “gay social and intimate lives” between Shiva and Vishnu.

    I imagine her bhakti gave her the strength

    This batshit crazy paganism is not strength, but insanity.

  199. Wally 说:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    It was the Brits who invaded & were mining Norway at Narvik before Germany arrived & stopped it

  200. Wally 说:
    @Cato

    While you’re being “skeptical’ the dumb illegals are pouring in.

    “Skeptical” doesn’t cut it.

  201. anonymous[117]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon71

    “Once it becomes known that the “Course In Miracles” she pushes is a rejection/inversion of basic Christian doctrine”

    Even if the book is not particularly about Christianity (I gather), the word “Miracles” does give some cause for irony in your point.

    You understand that the founding church of Christendom does take such pagan shit seriously, right?

  202. anonymous[117]• 免责声明 说:
    @Rich

    We could bomb the Middle East for the next 100 years if we returned to being a meritocratic society

    ?? !!

    I am trying to sense some sarcasm in your post, and can’t sense it.

    So, what kind of a vile degenerate are you? … Ok, I suppose, a vile whitey supremacist degenerate.

    • 回复: @Rich
  203. spoonful 说:

    She rivals JFK as the all time most attractive candidate for President

  204. FvS 说:

    Foreign policy is important, but immigration should be the number one issue for whites.

    • 同意: Z-man
    • 回复: @Art
  205. Glad to see Unz finally posted an article on Tulsi. I like her for the most part. What worries me is that she makes it a point to always say “regime change wars” while she seems to use a lot of the neocon talking points when she talks about “terrorists” and the war of terror. So are all wars bad to her or just regime change wars? She revealed it herself that ISIS and Al Queda are essentially US proxies, so why is she so sketchy about terrorists and the war of terror if terrorists are CIA/Mossad creations in the first place? She needs to clarify this.

    Second, she is pretty anti-gun/2nd amendment, even after she revealed to us that CIA/Pentagon is arming, funding, training ISIS and she thinks Americans are about to give up their last protection against this evil? HA! Come on Tulsi, address the causes of gun violence first, gun violence is a symptom of the underlying sickness. Poverty, CIA drug trafficking into the cities, violent culture, rap music, she should address these problems instead of jumping on the anti-gun wagon, that will cost her dearly right now. Americans have zero trust in our govt. after we find out they’re arming ISIS, along with all the years of training death squads in Latin America and elsewhere. Not to mention that most of these mass shooting have all the signs of being CIA-mercenary false flags to begin with. I think she’ll lose more votes being anti-gun than she’ll gain, thats really a minority of people shes appealing to with that. Talk about fixing the cause of the gun violence first Tulsi. Not smart!

    I know its tough to take a stand against Israel because of The Lobby and the media, just look at what they did to Illhan Omar, but I think Tulsi would do good to stand up to Israel. I don’t think I could vote for someone not willing to, theres no way you can be pro-Israel and anti-war, its not possible. Shes been pretty silent on Israel aside from the one tweet about Israel shooting Palestinians. Theres a lot of things about her Israel stance that are concerning. I think most Americans would back her up if she stood up to them. She needs to take a position on Israel before I could vote for her.

    Everything else she is good. She goes along with the lame MSM narratives and fake outrages a lot, which kind of sucks. I think she could easily beat Trump after all the backstabbing he’s done. Plus shes hot!

    Elizabeth Warren is boooring, she just doesn’t come off as someone willing to throw some punches and kick people in the balls, which is what we need.

    Booker = obama 2.0 Nope!

    Kamala Harris = obama with a cooter. Mnuchins buddy. No thanks.

    The rest of them are laaame as well, Joe Biden is basically Mitt Romney. Nope

    Yeah, I’ve pretty much given up on voting our way out of this BS. Seems collapse or revolt is the only way left.

  206. @AnonFromTN

    你在说什么?

    Are you a Holodomor denier?

    Or do you not realize what the Holodomor was? It was a holocaust of 7 million Christians starved to death under the murderous Stalin.

    If you think it never happened, then you need to get a life.

  207. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    As I see it now the lie was not your idea but of some moron.

    Yeah, I was quoting Fish, and he was a moron when it came to Hitler, but brilliant when it came to exposing FDR’s sins.

    I love reading knowledgeable historical sources and it’s often very shocking that otherwise great sources have complete blinders in other areas.

  208. @AnonFromTN

    – 你怎么知道政客在撒谎?
    ——他的嘴唇在动。

    Why wait til its lips are moving?

    I know it’s lying because that’s what they do.

  209. @Cato

    I will vote for anyone who is pro-peace and immigration-skeptical, regardless of party.

    That was (T)rump, the Israel Firster, and Bibi’s rump boy. Please don’t tell me you’d vote for something like that!!!

    PS: Good for you for rejecting the Hyena though.

  210. @AnonFromTN

    Why don’t you buy just as enthusiastically the rest of BS coming from the [Deep State]

    For the life of me, I just can’t make any sense out of that statement because as far as I know, the Deep State is not the source of the claim and as far as I can tell, the usual criminals would just as soon keep the lid on that fact.

    I suspect that you’d do everyone a favor and spend some time looking up another of 斯大林的 crimes, the Ukrainian Holocaust, which is a part of the real (as opposed to the made up) holocaust, the one 征收 on tens of millions of mostly Christian goyim.

    And I am waiting for your apology which will only be accepted when you prove to me you understand what I wrote and what the Holodomor stands for.

  211. @james bacque

    Surely you Americans have now proven that government is anarchy established.

    That’s an old Marxist smear of their opponents, the Anarchists (note the upper case “A”) of more than a century ago. The Marxists fools equated anarchy with chaos and the smear both stinks and stuck, as much of their offal has.

    Anyway, what we ‘Merkins have is not anarchy, but tyranny; the rule of the jungle and that’s what we’ve long exported in concert with our Zionist bosses in Israel.

    These should help clarify the issue for you.:

    “Anarchism is bourgeois individualism in reverse. Individualism as the basis of the entire anarchist world outlook.”

    -V. I. Lenin, Anarchism and Socialism (1901)

    We believe that the Anarchists are real enemies of Marxism.

    -J. V. Stalin, ANARCHISM or SOCIALISM? (December, 1906 — January, 1907)
    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1906/12/x01.htm

  212. @Vojkan

    Fatima .. re Pat’s TG up vote. Lately Pat seems to be musing more than normal for him, ie his head has been/is screwed on pretty tight. Someplace recently I remember Pat saying Trump was his man..or something pretty close and in other places giving him a good working over. TG’s SST time will come. We shouldn’t have to wait too long to see how his TG words read.

  213. @Wally

    It was the Brits who invaded & were mining Norway at Narvik before Germany arrived & stopped it

    I think it’s worthwhile to also point out that the Brits invaded 中性 Iceland in early 1940 and the “neutral” US was mucking around militarily there and in Greenland as well.

  214. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    OMG I never heard that expression either.You just invented it?

    No, I just got the bird wrong. It should have been “swallow” – not sparrow! Apologies – age takes a toll on memory.

    • 回复: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  215. Vojkan 说:
    @Fatima Manoubia

    I am a hard-nosed anti-communist too – because I actually have the experience of living in a country ruled by communists-, with the right to vote in two countries, France and Serbia, and I detest what nowadays passes for the Left as much as one can detest it. Nevertheless, I give priority to issues that threaten life on Earth like nuclear war, over issues like the feminist / LGBT lunacies.
    While I never thought nuclear war possible before because both the USA and the USSR had rational people at the helm, the end of the INF treaty, “low-yield” nukes, and the belief by some nutcases that a nuclear war is actually winnable have put the minute hand closer to midnight than at any time during the Cold War.
    So if I were American and saw a leftist candidate promising to reverse the decision on the INF treaty and the use of “low-yield” nukes, and giving the highest priority to the issues of war and peace, I would pinch my nose and vote for him / her.

  216. @RobinG

    Wow, RobinG, just seen the first 15 minutes, she sounds so humble and so close, I would say that she sounds like a caring and loving mother ( eventhough some here already throwing at her that she is not yet…)
    So far she sounds authentic without a hint of bigotry, and thus is gathering all those good honest people who for sure there are a lot in the US and who have no voice, nor representatives.
    To follow this path, she would oposse such contrast to bragging bigot Trump that he would not have nothing to do against the power of the masses once they have found a leader to their measure

    I am seeing she is already on the road, and that´s a good thing to do, she should travel the country, as far as possible, to meet people´s needs and mainly see their faces and feel their worries.
    I liked a lot all those people I am seeing in the gathering, they seem working honest people ( one day I would like to travel to the US to meet this kind of people…may be I will be doing the Route 66….or something similar, I only once have been in New York….)

    我们可以 in Spain bought a van through crowdfunding and traveled the country to meet the people to become third political force in Spanish parliament. Yes, it is possible, you just need to move and bring in by your side the people who want to live in peace and whenever possible in better conditions, who are always the majority in any country.

    P.S: for what I am seeing through all the day of yesterday, there are people here only to discourage people, kill hope and sow despair, precisely the same you identified rolling in the shit, but especialy one who you did not mention and who flood the comments section at certain moments. Of course, their project of the far-right only could grow in an environment crushed and desolated by despair, distrust, hatred and divide. ( No pasarán! )

    May be you should consider joining Tulsi´s caravan, if you have the time?
    Any help is always welcome, and you seem eager to do something to change the state of affairs…. May be this is your opportunity, RobinG. Here yo are only wasting your strenght. Contact her asap.

    好吧,

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  217. @Wally

    I think Brits invaded for heavy water, They did steel it and sent it to US.

  218. @Cloak And Dagger

    I was just kidding! If you got upset it should be me who should apologize.

    • 回复: @Cloak And Dagger
  219. @Vojkan

    I am a hard-nosed anti-communist too…… if I were American and saw a leftist candidate promising to reverse the decision on the INF treaty and the use of “low-yield” nukes, and giving the highest priority to the issues of war and peace, I would pinch my nose and vote for him / her.

    Good for you, you seem a very reasonable pacifist loving of life person, I do not think I would not reach an agreement with you anytime being myself of communist/socialist ideas, well, see you in the opposite side of the thwart…I guess…

    What passes today for the left at certain places is not but a decafeinate substitute to keep neoliberalism afloat in its rattle, most of the time with opponents infiltrated dinamiting everything and leaving the real left in bad light. That is, for example, Bannon´s strategy, say, to include in his discourse ( and that of his creation, the “alt-righ” )classical points from the left on social welfare and labour rights to then add bigot points about race and white supremacism, hatred, divide and continued wars, with which confuse people who do not know in the end who is really talking…

    • 回复: @Vojkan
    , @Authenticjazzman
  220. @Vojkan

    I would explain to you if I would have a time. All that it is only show. For Globalists it is imperative to keep Russia as an enemy. That is in large part excuse to do mischief around the world. The excuse is along the line that we have to do it because we must contain those ugly Russians.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @Vojkan
  221. @jacques sheete

    Most of the retards on this site do not realize that for every action there is a reaction.
    So when farmers did hear that commissars were confiscating grain, they did hide at least part of the crop in dig out cellars, far away of houses.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  222. Mike P 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Do you have any books/sources to back up your assertion that it did not happen?

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  223. @Anonymous

    You are wrong about socialism, may be you should consider how much you have been brainwashed by the same corrupt elites Occasio Cortez is denouncing at that video since birth.

    You are very fortunate that these people, curiously all of them women, have arrived in Congress, this is your unique chance to achieve a certain u-turn in your direct path to disaster, hence you, even when opposing them ideologically, are willing to support them, as any sane person would do…..

    Curiously, I made a kinda satiric account of the SOTU in another Giraldi´s article where I was highlighting these two young women, Occasio Cortez and Ilhan Omar ( I did not even know her name when I wrote that…)

  224. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Good for them; I’d have done something similar. Too bad they weren’t armed very well and many were reduced to eating grass and roots as I understand it.

    Anyway, what’s your take on the Ukrainian holocaust? How much merit do you see in in Anon’s charge against my claim that it happened?

  225. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    For Globalists it is imperative to keep Russia as an enemy.

    For Globalists it is imperative to keep (fill in the blank) as an enemy.

  226. Vojkan 说:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I don’t think the strategy of encirclement and suffocation is only for show and is just for containment. I believe you are on one hand overestimating the intelligence and the mental sanity of the Western elites, and underestimating their vanity and greed on the other. They are ignorant, greedy, smug, disconnected from reality, spoiled brats, and I promise you, I am not exaggerating. As odd as it may seem, the only people in Western upper echelons not disconnected from reality are to be found in the military.

  227. wayfarer 说:

    Breaking News: Trump Sued for National Emergency.

  228. @Authenticjazzman

    She is a Democrat, and she aligns with the party of nut-cases, crazies, blue-haired freaks and communists…

    Humpty tRumpty is a Republican who also aligns with the party of nut-cases, crazies, grey-haired freaks and communists 此外 bending over for the Izzy -Firsters.

    What makes you self preening “geniuses” think there’s any real differences between the various factions of the Welfare-Warfare Party? The truth has been known for some time.

    “克利夫兰政府早就证明了每个人都知道的事情,即共和党和民主党之间没有本质区别; 选举仅仅意味着一个人在任并希望留下来,而另一个人则退出并希望加入。”

    -Albert Jay Nock, American Mercury 1927

    http://theamericanmercury.org/2010/06/anarchists-progress/

    “MENSA” notwithstanding, Nock yer not! Wake up.

    • 同意: geokat62
    • 回复: @Authenticjazzman
  229. @Fatima Manoubia

    To RobinG, thus spake Fatima Manoubia: “, there are people here only to discourage people, kill hope and sow despair, precisely the same you identified rolling in the shit,”

    Hey ‘Tima,

    Here at U.R. comments you meet American citizens, who especially after 9/11 (False Flag) attacks & pursuant Usrael launch of the satanic GWOT, recognized how their own ‘guvmint used terror & fear to the disadvantage of the people who roil in… everyday shit ordeals.

    Doubtless, the greatest secret-sowers of “no hope and despair” are presidential & Congressional liars who rule and pretend to want to MAGA by endless application of shit.

    You are evidently young & zealous for political sanity to reign. Consequently, in article below, I provide something Executive-level deceptive, which even you might understand.🤗

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/02/17/588764/US-Trump-Europe-Daesh-Syria

    Get on the ball, Tima! (Zigh) How absurd is Trump’s administration to the EU to take back Daesh terrorist captives lodged in Syria? (zzzZigh)

    If the “Homeland’s” president is so concerned what the release will do, why not release Daesh to either Assad’s Syria jurisdiction or to Shia militia’s stationed in Iraq? They will know how to handle “evildoers.”

    As a Basque-European, ‘Tima, even you must know exactly how Israel/US’s Middle East wars benefited by shitty terror attacks in Europe.

    Yours truly in Real Jew News,
    小查尔斯·J·奥尔洛斯基
    Scranton, Pa

  230. Vojkan 说:
    @Fatima Manoubia

    The alt-right is a typically American phenomenon. The French gaullist Right has very little in common with it. I am keen on preserving the traditional French way of life and French culture, but it has nothing to do with belief in racial superiority. The alt-right and the left have that in common that they tend to pick data that suit their respective narratives and dismiss factors that don’t.

    • 回复: @Fatima Manoubia
  231. Sorry to sully Tulsi’s image with this, but I’m offering it as a gentle reminder to those who still have faith in a corrupt, degenerate system.

    “[Hillary Clinton] was very much committed to working within the political system…”

    As the nation boiled over Vietnam…[Ms Rodham] came to Wellesley as an 18-year-old Republican [and left] as an antiwar Democrat whose public rebuke of a Republican senator in a graduation speech won her notice in Life magazine as a voice for her generation.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/us/politics/05clinton.html

    Whether she’s real or not, would any decent person want to see Ms Gabbard tossed into the cesspool to turn out, inevitably, like that hideous hag?

    • 回复: @Vojkan
  232. KenH 说:
    @Art

    We must hope that she gets in the debates and make noises about peace – that would be a big win.

    That’s fine by me. Her voice would be needed as a counterweight to the libtard interventionists and Russophobes which all other Democrat candidates are.

    Right now, all the rest refuse to bring up the subject of peace.

    Because they fear blowback by the juggernaut that is the Jewish lobby. Jewish power in America needs to be utterly smashed into a million pieces.

  233. Rich 说:
    @anonymous

    Oh no, heavens to murgatroyd, I’ve been call a “White supremacist”. Guess you’ve won the argument. Do you guys really believe in that hoodoo stuff? Call me a name and you’ve triumphed? How about this, “You’re a racist”. Now maybe I won, in your world.

  234. denk 说:

    Looks like it’d be ,
    Another good cop, bad cop show.

    Tulsi Gabbard, the Hindhu ‘Hwaiian’,
    vs
    Nikki Haley, the Sikh.

  235. geokat62 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Presumably, and like the distinguished anti-war Senator Rand Paul, Tulsi Gabbard has already completed the ritual rite of passage and has paid homage to Israel at the Wailing Wall? *

    … perhaps tell if Ms. Gabbar has or has not “been there, done that”)

    Not yet, Chuck. However, I’m sure she’ll comply with the request for the photo op when called upon to do so.

    • 回复: @Art
    , @ChuckOrloski
  236. Vojkan 说:
    @jacques sheete

    In Tulsi Gabbard’s defence, she does seem like having some convictions, even if apart from the issue of war & peace, they are all opposite of mine, at the difference of Hillary Clinton, who undeniably has always had ambition, but of whom I doubt she ever held any real conviction.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  237. Art 说:
    @FvS

    Foreign policy is important, but immigration should be the number one issue for whites.

    If you want to fight immigration – you must confront the Jew hegemonic control over congress – there is only 2 elected officials doing that – Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul.

    Support them!

    Focus –– niggling over this or that view of theirs – leads to losing.

    You can bet your last dollar that neither of them will become president, while the Talmudic Jews are in control.

    思考和平-艺术

    • 回复: @FvS
  238. Art 说:
    @geokat62

    Walling Wall: Not yet, Chuck. However, I’m sure she’ll comply with the request for the photo op when called upon to do so.

    geokat62 and Chuck,

    I think she will go to the wall – and I think she will be coerced to do worse.

    But I sincerely think that she will stay true to her anti-war anti-nuke stance.

    Until that changes – she has my support.

    思考和平-艺术

    p.s. Again – it is a given that the Jews will never let her be president.

  239. @Vojkan

    You were going great til this.:

    As odd as it may seem, the only people in Western upper echelons not disconnected from reality are to be found in the military.

    All bureaucrats are as you described in your first three sentences, and big boys in uniform all dressed up like Christmas trees are bureaucrats with a little kid mentality as well.

    Some of them figure it out eventually.

    “一般来说,军事生活使男人堕落。 它使他们处于完全无所事事的状态,也就是说,没有一切合理和有用的工作; 将他们从共同的职责中解脱出来,……也使他们处于比自己更高等级的人的奴隶服从的状态。”

    ―托尔斯泰复活或《觉醒》,1899年

    1851 年,托尔斯泰和他的哥哥去了高加索,在那里他作为炮兵军官加入了俄罗斯军队。
    1854年,在克里米亚战争期间,托尔斯泰调往瓦拉几亚与法国、英国和奥斯曼帝国作战,保卫塞瓦斯托波尔。

    还有更多,

    “……(在海军陆战队工作的33年中,我大部分时间都在为大型企业,华尔街和银行家担任高级肌肉先生。)

    简而言之,我是个敲诈者,是[crony]资本主义的a徒。”

    美国海军陆战队少将,战争是一场球拍,1935年
    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    • 回复: @Vojkan
  240. Art 说:
    @Art

    – How do you know the politician is lying?
    – His lips are moving.

    The only time a politician tells the truth is when he is telling you how bad his opponent is.

    Between two political election opponents, which one is the most dangerous – it is always the one who wins.

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  241. @Vojkan

    You are correct, but I think it would be a tragedy for her to turn out like Hillary which is practically a given because one simply cannot work within such a sick system and not be rendered ineffective at best or more likely, contaminated.

    See my Socrates and Juvenal quotes.

  242. @geokat62

    Hi geokat!

    Given Tulsi Gabbard issues a polite “no thanks” to whoever is/becomes Israel’s Prime Minister on doing ritual homage at the Wailing Wall, her off-beat presidential candidacy will be favorably used by our Zio Corporate Media.

    For example, and at minimum, Ms. Gabbard could be branded an “existential” US security threat. The fabricated evidence? Tulsi’s latent proclivity to avoid “foreign entanglements,” especially as applied to The Land of Bilk & Federal Reserve Money.

    No doubt different than the abnormal-normal, Tulsi’s possible guest star “debut” at upcoming (staged) presidential candidate primary debates could avail to Zionist sneaky advantage. For example, nationally popular “Talking Head” worms, i.e., Hannity & Limbaugh, could post-debate, triumphantly boast how free is America to the point where even female “libtards” get Homelander attention. (zzzZigh)

    Thanks so much, geo!

    Selah, Simon & Garfunkel lyric, “anyway you look at this (2020 election) you lose…, coo-coo, katcho!”

    • 回复: @geokat62
  243. geokat62 说:

    Came across this incredible 5 min. must watch video.

    Rep. Ilhan Omar Scolded for “Anti-Semitic” Teeets:

    Here is the most pertinent exchange between the local TV news host and former NY State Assemblyman, Dov Hikind:

    Host: But, but, but, explain that. For some of those that are genuinely confused as to why this “Jewish money” stereotype, which is what she was invoking, seems to be so offensive. Just clarify that for us.

    Dov Hikind: Traditional anti-semitism is to talk about Jews and power… Jews controlling. Jewish money dictates what happens and that’s what she was trying to say. She was saying about AIPAC… by the way, you were talking about the top 10, AIPAC doesn’t do well in the top 50 in terms of money that they actually distribute [notice the qualifier he sneakily added], which is part of American democracy. Maybe she just does not get that. That in America, you know the AARP, if your senior citizen, they are very involved in politics, helping seniors. Different organizations, by the way, there are Muslim groups that are involved in helping elected officials in terms of their races, where they believe, when they feel that those elected officials represent their point of view.

    Despite the former assemblyman’s pleas to the contrary, this info presented by the blog 如果美国人知道 blows that myth out of the water:

    摘录自 The Israel lobby: A List:

    The pro-Israel special interest group is one of the most significant and pervasive special interest groups in the United States. It consists of numerous institutions and individuals that work to influence Congress, the president, academia, the media, religious institutions, and American public opinion on behalf of Israel. It has been active in the U.S. for many decades.

    Below is a partial list, in no particular order, of groups and individuals that publicly support Israel.
    Some of these are official lobbying groups whose primary purpose is to lobby governmental officials for pro-Israel policies. Others are groups or individuals that work to influence the media, academia and/or others in a pro-Israel direction. Some do this full-time; others as one portion of a diverse array of activities. While they span the political spectrum and range from hardcore supporters of the Israeli right to liberal critics of some Israeli policies, all support Israel...

    Total: 14,076 employees, 
    353,337 volunteers,
    2012 revenue $3.7 billion,
    Projected 2020 revenue  6.3 billion

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/the-israel-lobby-a-list/

    • 回复: @Cloak And Dagger
    , @Art
  244. @ChuckOrloski

    You are evidently young & zealous for political sanity to reign.

    显然。

    Glad you’re reading her windy busy body hostilities sandwiched in with recipes for peace; I’ve heard it all before and can no longer stomach it. She sounds like another extremely ambitious and vicious Hillary. When I was a kid I had all the answers too. Nothing changes.

    I hope she’s not a physician but I can’t wait for her quackery and nostrums to take hold anyway; undoubtedly the gubbermint will supply us all with Izzy-made sandals fer free!

  245. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I was just kidding! If you got upset it should be me who should apologize.

    Very gracious of you, but I wasn’t upset – just embarrassed by having picked the wrong avian variety…

  246. @jacques sheete

    Well? Kolkhozes did not work. They did not produce enough grain, and Russians had to import grain for diamond and gold to the times indefinite.

    • 回复: @Desert Fox
    , @jacques sheete
  247. Vojkan 说:
    @jacques sheete

    With “not disconnected from reality” I meant that some of them are aware that things can go terribly wrong if they push too far, while the politicians are incapable of grasping the concept of “too far”. For the rest, I agree. I have done eleven months of military service and I know the damage military life can inflict on a man’s capacity of discernment.

  248. @Vojkan

    Yes but what I am trying to say that western politicians very well realize that they cannot defeat Russia militarily. And so if final goal cannot be achieved than actions of the western politicians do amount to “spinning the wheels.

    • 回复: @Vojkan
  249. @follyofwar

    Nonetheless, I have no idea what you mean about Tulsi being a Hindu Nationalist. Unlike the Jewish Mafia, I doubt if we’re in any danger of Hindus taking over the country.

    Tulsi Gabbard had a good go at her presidential primary town hall events in New Hampshire. I saw parts of one on the internet and was at another one.

    Gabbard’s message of getting the United States out of all this endless, unnecessary overseas war will play well in New Hampshire. In the 2016 New Hampshire presidential primary, Bernie Sanders benefited immensely from Hillary Clinton’s support and vote for George W Bush’s Iraq War debacle.

    Gabbard carries herself very well and has a very composed, captivating speaking style. She has an athletic figure and an easy going manner.

    除非互联网是错误的,否则国会女议员加巴德没有印度次大陆的血统,我也懒得去了解她母亲是如何成为印度教徒的。

    I was wrong to suggest she was a Hindu Nationalist, but Gabbard is a veteran of war and politics and she knows she will have to have an answer for all kinds of things when she is asked on the campaign trail. A good presidential primary candidate won’t get rattled or angry, except for effect, when voters or reporters ask them dumb questions.

    我举一个愚蠢问题的例子:

    Is Gabbard a Hindu Cashionalist? How much cash and loot is Tulsi Gabbard getting from Hindu sources?

  250. AnonFromTN 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Unlike some people, I was born and grew up in Ukraine, so I know the reality first-hand, not from Deep State propaganda fed to gullible people for many years.

    The story of Holodomor, i.e., mass starvation specifically targeting Ukrainians, is exactly as true as the assertions that homos are normal, or that open borders and multiculturalism are good for the country.
    There was famine at the time, but that’s the only true part of the story. It was equally severe in Ukraine, Southern Russia, Volga Region, and Kazakhstan. What’s more, there was severe famine at exactly the same time in parts of present-day Ukraine that were under Polish control back then. So, unless you sincerely believe that Pilsudski was in league with Stalin and that Kazakhs are Ukrainians, you have no leg to stand on.

    • 回复: @Mike P
    , @jacques sheete
    , @Gg Mo
  251. geokat62 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    The Land of Bilk & Federal Reserve Money.

    Great line, Chuck.

  252. renfro 说:
    @Moi

    是的我知道。
    I pointed out the Gabbard Modi and Hindu nationalist connections weeks ago.
    And that because of the Modi-Netanyahu and Israel-India alliance she could be used by Israel also.

  253. Desert Fox 说:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Russia under Putin is now an exporter of NON GMO grain and Russia is again the breadbasket of Europe, if interested go to youtube and enter Russian agriculture and see the dozens of videos about Russian agriculture.

    GMO grains are destroying human health!

  254. Vojkan 说:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Wrong. They don’t. They believe they can eventually force Russia into submission. I know it looks crazy but they are reality-proof.

  255. @jacques sheete

    ” Wake up”

    I “woke up” before you were born into your pathetic, horizon-free existance.

    And as far as “Party of nut cases” goes, if one were to do a poll/survey of the party affiliation of the pierced, purple-haired people sitting in the waiting rooms of shrinks, you can rest assured that 99% of them would identify as : Democrats.

    And I could not give a fuck less as to what one Albert Jay Nock had to say, as I am my own authority on all subjects, excepting chemistry which is the most arcane book of seven seals on earth, from my point of view.

    阿杰姆

  256. @Fatima Manoubia

    ” Being myself of communistic/socialist ideas”

    Translated into precise english : I am insane beyond hope.

    阿杰姆

  257. @Art

    Art said: “Between two political election opponents, which one is the most dangerous — it is always the one who wins.”

    Agreed, Brother Art!

    Nonetheless, it is public opinion polls who are the first organizations that, & based upon “voter” support percentage assembly, THEY decide which presidential primary candidates are viable & worthy of national consideration.

    This is a Potemkin Village half-ass approach as to who ultimately wins and enters the Zio-controlled White House. Then upon arrival of nationally televised rigged debates, a candidate like Senator Rand Paul, sits at the far-side stage🤗 and gets strategically ignored by the Zio-controlled “debate” moderator.

    The ugly fuckers!

    My (grim) Foggy & bottom less “pit” line is as follows: American voters are vanquished as to having a government untethered to international Jewry’s requirements.

    Please tell me something positive & maybe non-hope killing stuff, Brother Art? Thank you, and an extension of ye old, “peace on Earth & goodwill to non-Zio controlled men!”

    • 回复: @Art
  258. follyofwar 说:
    @Wally

    I don’t disagree with any of your points. I was simply referring to the fact that it was Germany which declared war on the US (on 12-11-41, 4 days after Pearl Harbor), not the other way around.

    In referencing this, I came across some info about this which I didn’t know. Per “This Day in History,” Japan pleaded with Von Ribbentrop to declare war on the US, which the German Foreign Minister didn’t want to do. He felt that the entry of the US would overwhelm the German war effort. And, Germany’s treaty with Japan only required them to come to their defense if they were attacked, not when Japan was the aggressor.

    However, Hitler thought otherwise, and war was declared. Crazy as it sounds Hitler, per the article, actually believed that Japan could defeat the US, then they could turn around and help Germany defeat the USSR! The more I read, the more I’m convinced it was Hitler’s incompetence regarding the conduct of the war which was the main reason why Germany lost.

  259. 我不认为 Tulsi Gabbard 认为她会赢得民主党的支持来竞选总统。 她确实希望将她合理的外交政策理念带到总统辩论中,以便美国人能够听到 PTB 和主流新闻媒体对公众隐瞒的真相。 如果 Tulsi Gabbard 能够就外交政策对美国人进行教育,我将感谢她的候选资格。

  260. Art 说:
    @geokat62

    Rep. Ilhan Omar Scolded for “Anti-Semitic” Teeet

    geokar62,

    It is official now — any Gentile using the word “AIPAC” in a sentence – is an anti-Semite.

    A Gentile using ADL, AIPAC, Talmud, or Jew – is now forbidden. Use them and you will be called names at a minimum.

    思考和平-艺术

  261. Anon[436]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wally

    “this entire period”. What period exactly?

  262. Mike P 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Thanks, I will check those out. Don’t speak Russian unfortunately.

  263. @Minnesota Mary

    ” If TG can educate americans on foreign policy”

    So what you are really saying is : “If GT can persuade Americans to adopt her Democrat/leftist viewpoints and consider them, as crazy and off-base as they are, to be truth and workable, you will be grateful for her candidacy.

    看看你们左派在过去的五十多年里设法通过你的方式进入权力和腐败,但你的时钟已经用完了,人们终于意识到你的目标,他们现在看到你实际上是什么骗子和卑鄙的人。

    阿杰姆

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  264. Mike P 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    So what caused this widespread starvation? Just crop failures?

    • 同意: jacques sheete
    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @RobinG
    , @Sparkon
    , @L.K
  265. Druid 说:
    @2stateshmustate

    Chert off body scanners at airports. Another scamming Ziofascist Jew

  266. Druid 说:
    @renfro

    It’s that Hindu bullshit. They hate the fact that the golden age of India was the Mughal empire and that the Muslims were the only religionists were the only conquerors that didn’t assimilate as just another phallus/rat/cow, etc., worshiping religion

  267. @Minnesota Mary

    Most probably it is so, and here they are some trying already to get her out, precisely those who more “seem” to complaint about unending wars on behalf of Israel ut never offer any solution/alternative.

    顺便说一句,我们没有听说他们上街支持伊尔汗奥马尔,或者至少写了一条支持的推文,他们在这里一直用以色列在美国政治中的压倒性影响和统治来填补他们的大嘴并假装他们做了什么来反驳这个事实,只是你在这里说话并侮辱那些至少建议做某事的人。

    • 回复: @RobinG
  268. Art 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Please tell me something positive & maybe non-hope killing stuff, Brother Art?

    查克,

    Tell you something positive – sorry – can’t do – not on the ME anyway – not short-term. I see no good outcomes. Crazed Talmudist Israel is max strong (but peaking). It controls the western elites. It controls the Arab tribal elites. It has all the weapons it needs.

    But Israel’s leaders and population hate its neighbors, and there are 100 million everyday Semites surrounding the Jews, who hate them. The US’s super Jew Kushner is about to insult all of them by dispossessing the Palestinians from their land. The world knows that the Jews are looking for a way to eliminate the Palestinians.

    Sorry but I see no release from all this hate by Big Jew Israel.

    艺术

    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @RobinG
    , @ChuckOrloski
  269. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Mike P

    Considering that the famine was simultaneously on the Polish and Soviet side, crop failure that year must have significantly contributed to it. Another contribution was of the governments (both Polish and Soviet) being reluctant to help.

    I did not research this specially, but from what I know of that period, on the USSR side crop failure was aggravated by the fact that peasants were forced into “collective farms”, which were much less productive than individual farming. They were mostly organized as a vehicle for robbing peasants of the fruits of their labor, which is supported by the fact that on occupied Soviet territories Nazis preserved those collective farms.

    Their lower productivity is demonstrated by the well-known fact that Russian Empire and Soviet Union before “collectivization” were big exporters of grain, as Russia is now, whereas in later Soviet years (1960s through 1980s) when the government wanted to keep the populace fed Soviet Union was a huge importer of grain.

    • 同意: Mike P
  270. @Vojkan

    The alt-right and the left have that in common that they tend to pick data that suit their respective narratives and dismiss factors that don’t.

    You must surely be referring to the “alt-left”, i. e, Trotskyites, because, to date and to my knowledge the classical left has always defended the same points and narratives, which are very simple, defense of labour rights and public universal services, social equality, defense of minimum basics on wages, health, education, housing, environment, and always against imperialist wars.

    The “alt-right”, which is a construct to try to sell the far-right under disguise to the masses, has nothing to do with the left, unless in that they have stolen some of our points to appear more electable. If they would present themselves out there with their own pro-corporations program, nobody will pay them attention, the least, young people.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  271. RobinG 说:
    @jacques sheete

    AnonFromTN already hit it. The Holodomor Hoax is that the famine was targeted specifically at Ukrainians. The famine was real, and there was equal opportunity suffering. The Ukrainian Holodomor story was politics.(Never let a good crisis go to waste.)

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  272. @ChuckOrloski

    I am really aware what that shit by The Donald means, that after the menacing letters by Smilling Grennel, of which anybody in Europe could care less, they are now sending in the hitmans, i.e. ISIS.

    This is not but the continuum of The Donald ´s mafiosi style amd methods.

    I am already aware, even in my youth ( although I must say you youth is mainly carried in one´s soul….you are definitely old, and even I would say dead, when you have no hope or illusion any more…) that all the terrorists attacks in Europe by ISIS have the same origin as ISIS itself, the same with all the “independentist movements” to split European nations. You see, as if this would be something new, when we had already GLADIO since ages and all the magnicides which took place here of politicians who were turning, even slightly, to the left or were willing to share government with the left. In that scenery are to be placed the assassiantion of Aldo Moro, the harassments of Petra Kelly and Olof Palme, and final assassination of the later, the shooting of all those Swedish young socialists, the Atocha Lawyers assassination, and so on, and so on…..Not to mention the assassination and dissapearances in my own country, in charge of the same far-right criminal people at the service of imperialist powers and their offensive alliances.

    Of course, you would not be considering me so naive if my most interesting comments would had not been systematically banned, like that where I was talking about Donald Rumsfeld and his relation to certain obscure organization and its victims.

  273. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Your answer skirts the issue.

    Well? Kolkhozes did not work.

    So that justifies killing off the peasants, or what? Did the Holodomor occur or not in your opinion?

    • 回复: @anonymous
  274. Comment preface:
    Experienced at “talking to a wall,” (zzzZigh), and once again, & representing her usual target, I uselessly engage the narrow thought of Fatima Manoubia, who complained thusly: ”… they here who fill their bigmouths with the overwhelming influence and dominion of Israel in US politics all the time and pretend that they do something to counter that fact, only y talking here.”

    嘿法蒂玛!

    Holding on to a fundamental difference of worldview than you, I see that the crisis my country & all nations must confront is extraordinarily extraordinary.

    At any rate, linked below, is the SOLUTION-advisory of a Roman citizen, dissident preacher of “The Way.” Under Emperor Caesar Agrippa, he was persecuted, held captive, & was spared from more tortuous forms of execution, and got the time’s more humane,🤗 beheading.

    http://biblestudyforcatholics.com/putting-armor-god-2/

  275. RobinG 说:
    @Mike P

    IIRC the famine was largely due to faulty Communist planning and methods (including fabricated reports made to appear successful when they were not), combined with the drive to industrialization which required feeding an increased urban workforce – which was given priority over the agricultural zones.

    Perhaps someone more expert will amend this.

  276. @AnonFromTN

    So you’re a Holodomor denier then? You admit to famine, but did Stalin confiscate grain to trade for gold and let the peasants starve, or what?

    I was born and grew up in Ukraine, so I know the reality first-hand,

    So yer ~ 110 years old? I doubt if a little kid would have much idea of what was going on. Don’t tell me you know the reality first hand.

    …from Deep State propaganda fed to gullible people for many years.

    Where’s the evidence that the “Deep State” ever propagandized that? It seems to me they’d prefer to shove it under the table instead. they were Stalin’s and teh Bolshies buddies for decades, remember? I doubt if more than a handful of Americans have ever heard about it, in fact.

    Comments like this tell a lot about you, and it ain’t too complimentary.:

    So, unless you sincerely believe that Pilsudski was in league with Stalin and that Kazakhs are Ukrainians, you have no leg to stand on.

    You may want to come down off of your mouthy high horse and try engaging in a somewhat civilized manner such as no name calling or other smart ass disparaging remarks if you want me to take you seriously. You have not convinced me of the veracity of your version a bit.

    You know what sounds like propaganda? Your version.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  277. Sparkon 说:
    @Mike P

    The Holodomor (lit. hunger plague) was caused primarily by Soviet collectivization and dekulakization programs which ultimately forced private land owners to hand over their grain, land, and livestock to the local soviet’s kolkhoz. There was a drought in 1931, but the biggest problem was that few peasants outside the destitute went along with collectivization voluntarily, Told they had to hand over their cattle to the kolkhoz, many peasants simply slaughtered their livestock.

    The collectivisation policy was enforced, entailing extreme crisis and contributing to the famine. In 1929–30, peasants were induced to transfer land and livestock to state-owned farms, on which they would work as day-labourers for payment in kind. Collectivization in the Soviet Union, including the Ukrainian SSR, was not popular among the peasantry and forced collectivisation led to numerous peasant revolts. The first five-year plan changed the output expected from Ukrainian farms, from the familiar crop of grain to unfamiliar crops like sugar beets and cotton. In addition, the situation was exacerbated by poor administration of the plan and the lack of relevant general management. Significant amounts of grain remained unharvested, and – even when harvested – a significant percentage was lost during processing, transportation, or storage.

    Wikipedka article

    Kulaks were supposedly wealthier peasants and petty land owners who were tarred as enemies of the working class and marked for liquidation by Stalin. Anyone resisting collectivization could be called a kulak. Any failures were attributed to “kulak sabotage.” It was class warfare.

    Because of the Holodomor, the Ukrainians hated Stalin. Not that they were alone. It was a huge mistake for the Germans to attack and alienate Ukrainians in the Ukrainian SSR at the outset of Barbarossa. Of course, attacking the Soviet Union at all was a big mistake for Germany, but Hitler fell for Stalin’s provocations. The Soviet dictator was able to use the German attack and spilled Red Army blood to rally the Soviet republics, and unite the Soviet Union as nothing else could have. It was what he wanted all along.

    Now FDR and his fellow travelers in the United States administration could arrange for a huge transfer of American wealth, materials, and secrets to “Uncle Joe” and the Soviet Union under the guise of Lend Lease.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @jacques sheete
  278. @RobinG

    Holodomor Hoax?

    The Holodomor Hoax is that the famine was targeted specifically at Ukrainians.

    No one said it was targeted specifically at Ukrainians. Employing a straw man argument like that doesn’t help your credibility a bit. Along with your supercilious abrasiveness and 事实上的 defense of Stalin and his goons, I now have an idea of whom I’m dealing with. Anyway, what is being said is that the famine, if not engineered or exacerbated by the Bolshies, was not relieved by them either.

    The ex-Bolshie, Eugene Lyons would probably beg to differ with you deniers. Gareth Jones as well.

    Note to other UR commenters.: There appear to be some really subtle, but smelly hasbara trolls here. Beware!

    • 回复: @RobinG
  279. RobinG 说:
    @Art

    POSITIVE M.E. NEWS

    Heather Nauert withdrew from consideration for UN ambassador. She gave some “family” excuse, but hey, could it not be the fact that her longtime lionizing of the White Helmets has become an embarrassment after the BBC admission that the alleged Douma chemical attacks were staged by opposition forces – abetted by White Helmets ?!?

    This revelation may be suppressed in the US, but it’s well known to the UN. The sham ISIS/Israel/US façade is crumbling.

    “What Dalati has done is highlight the hypocrisy and bias of Western media and government officials. The BBC report on the Russian “production” of Douma-chemical-attack-denying witnesses at the HQ of the OPCW in the Hague emphasises the dismissal of the event as a “despicable stunt” by the UK, US and France who boycotted the proceedings. French ambassador to the Netherlands described the Syrian civilian testimonies as an “obscene masquerade.” The Guardian ran with this statement as its headline, reducing Russia’s attempt to bring some clarity to the Douma attack to the unveiling of “supposed witnesses” in order to discredit such attempts to derail their preferred narrative.

    Now, it appears that the real obscene masquerade took place in the Medical Point in Douma, was constructed by the UK FCO-financed White Helmets, and was adopted by the BBC and other state stenographers as gospel in order to further criminalise the Syrian Arab Army just as the final liberation of Douma from Jaish al-Islam brutal rule was fast approaching. This obscene masquerade resulted in the unlawful bombing of Syria by the US, France and the UK. As Peter Ford stated, “this demands a public enquiry.”

    凡妮莎比利
    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/451623-bbc-staged-footage-douma-chemical-attack/

  280. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Fatima Manoubia

    There is no left in the US that matches your description. So-called Democrats are just as much war-mongering corporate cucks devoted to MIC and 0.1% as so-called Republicans.

    • 回复: @Fatima Manoubia
  281. AnonFromTN 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Is to growing up there, I was born way later, but I talked to a lot of older people when I was a teenager.

    As to propaganda, Holodomor hoax was and still is used by propaganda as one of the “horrors of communism”. Soviet system was not very good, but it produced no more horrors than that driven by naked greed (you’d call it market economy).

    Finally, if Stalin and communist system were to blame, who do you blame for the famine on the Polish side?

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @Rurik
  282. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Sparkon

    Warning: Wikipedia is as neutral and fair as the State Department or Facebook. Believe it at your peril.

    You are right in one thing: German aggression actually went a long way to uniting the people behind Stalin and his system. Same as US aggression and embargo prolonged the life of Castro regime in Cuba by many years, even decades. Same as mad American posture now increases genuine support for Putin in Russia and for Xi in China. Talk of unintended consequences.

    • 回复: @Sparkon
  283. @jacques sheete

    雅克·

    Anon from TN is nuts, the starvation campaign that hit Ukraine was indeed real and tatgeted.

    The area was populated by German farmers (Black Sea Germans, Schwarzmeerdeutsche, Чорноморські німці) who were invited there in the late 18th century and they have written many many books on this subject in both German and English. And of course, Stalin targeted them too because they were German.

    I have encountered Slavs before whom are either completely unaware of this targeted slaughter, or in conplete denial of it. And why would they be? To protect the precious Stalin? Can’t figure that one out.

    Anyway, it indeed happened just as you suggest but I’ve read a 3-5 million number of dead.

    I could go on into vast detail on this as my mother was a Black Sea German who joined the October 1940 caravan back to Germany that Hitler negotiated with Stalin. In that caravan 96,000 ethnic Germans were repatriated to Germany after 150 years of farming in the Ukraine. But hey, i don’t post, just enjoy reading the comments.

    And keep up the fight, have not read a single thing i disagree with you yet.

    TN Anon is full of shit.

    • 同意: ChuckOrloski
    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  284. anonymous[340]• 免责声明 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Mr. Sheete, do you realize that this person is a mischievous, insincere commenter (aka troll)?

    That became quite clear during discussion under Mr. Buchanan’s February 2, 2018, column. Take five minutes to see how “Ilyana” poked fun at another’s mistaken English while playing dumb and overdoing the Natasha Fatale act.

    But if you’re just having fun, too, please forgive this interruption.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  285. @AnonFromTN

    Agree, and aware of this, but it seems that there is some new blood in scene, only they are young and will need all your support in their incipient but already harsh opposition to the current state fo affairs.
    I think this is the best you have had since ages, and that you should take advnatage of this opportunity, once someone have had the courage to verbalize the main problems, leaving aside ideology, as some here wisely have seen and decided to do.

  286. @Sparkon

    Kulaks were supposedly wealthier peasants

    I’ve also read that a lot of them were particularly industrious folk of German origins, but of course I’m also told it was all a big hoax (see above). After all, Uncle Joey was another Messiah with a big tender heart. Besides, I should know that there is only one set of real victims in the world, and only one holocaust. Can’t have any other competition for the Only One, can we?

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  287. Gg Mo 说:
    @Anonymous

    “Backlash” could be theatre . They know how to use dialectics and WWF role playing.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  288. Gg Mo 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Who is Victoria Kagan (ovich) Nuland ? Who is Lazar Kaganovich ? Are you ASHAMED to be such a tool ?

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  289. RobinG 说:
    @Art

    MORE GOOD NEWS: The Washington Post actually published this LTE.

    WAPO letters on Ilhan Omar 15 February 2019
    Ms. Omar’s controversial comments
    The Washington Post 15 Feb 2019

    As an 87-year-old American Jew, I strongly disagree with the accusations leveled at Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) regarding her recent comments. They are not anti-Semitic. For all the years that Israel has been illegally occupying Palestinian land and seriously mistreating Palestinian people, Zionist groups such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee have all too successfully managed to convince too many Americans that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. That is just not true.

    It is more than past time that we Americans recognized the Israeli crimes committed against Palestinians and stopped supporting those crimes with ridiculously huge amounts of money and support for Israel, regardless of what it does. Bob Tripp, Reston

  290. For anyone who wonders what the Holodomor is all about, here’s a link to a 2 minute vid that offers some clues.:

    Abraham Foxman Warns the Ukraine Not to Compare the Holodomor to the Holocaust

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12103

  291. @Art

    Respectful of both Art’s intelligence, decency and that most distinguished human-part that lay beneath his rib cage, I asked him to respond to an overwhelming question which begs for understanding & arrival at potential solution prior to a Zio-Superpower vs. Iran exchange, involving conventional & nuclear weapons.

    Following is what Art profoundly said: “Sorry but I see no release from all this hate by Big Jew Israel.”

    Same here, Art! Thanks.

    Nonetheless, in comment # 288, addressed to Basque Commissar Fatima, I introduced a “hateless” & potentially protective solution that I believe transcends Secretary of (offense?) Defense, Donald Rumsfeld’s, having scolded petty ‘Merkins who complained that our heroic “troops” were not getting state-of-art armor to be used in liberated Iraq. (zzZigh) Head strong & Seinfeld-witted, Rummy blew them off, declared, “you go into battle with the armor you got!”🤗

    Come a time, I think even an (underground) $5 billion Superdome-size bomb shelter, ain’t gonna’ save all ‘dem Rothschild gangs of Neoconservatives and “Crazed Talmudist Israelis.”

    Peace, Brother Art, and thanks!

  292. @anonymous

    Mr. Sheete, do you realize that this person is a mischievous, insincere commenter (aka troll)?

    Pretty much, but thank you.

    I love smoking those [电子邮件保护] out and I’m pretty sure I’ve uncovered a couple of others here. In fact, I posted a warning about them, above.

    Again, thank you very much.

    Note to anyone who thinks the Holodomor is OT, it is not partly because discussion about it shows how devious our opponents are and gives some clues as to how they function and who the ruling classes in America have long been in bed with. Ms Gabbard as an attractive potential candidate for POTUS didn’t just pop out of nowhere for no reason. I believe Benji at #55 is onto them with the fake Kool surfer marketing con and anyone making fun of his comments is suspect.

  293. RobinG 说:
    @jacques sheete

    No one said it was targeted specifically at Ukrainians.

    Actually, that’s exactly what several, including you, have said here. And now, Der ex-Deutsche (#298) comes along to help, but contradicts you directly:
    “…the starvation campaign that hit Ukraine was indeed real and tatgeted,” and “The area was populated by German farmers (Black Sea Germans) … And of course, Stalin targeted them too because they were German.”

    If there were a Holodomor article, it would be obvious that we won’t settle this here, but funny to see how quickly – and oddly – you resort to Hasbara accusations. BTW, the bar was set extremely low for Kulak designation, including anyone who kept a single cow.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  294. AnonFromTN 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Uncle Joe was a criminal (since early age) and a murderer (also since early age). However, if the person has murdered three people and you say that that person murdered ten, you are telling seven lies, even though the person in question deserves to be hanged for what he really did.

    As to “kulaks”, they were mostly industrious people with several equally industrious sons, and therefore became better off then others. Destroying their farming enterprises was an economic crime, destroying them and their families was a crime, period. My grandma and grandpa saved a family of “kulaks” with two children (their other two have died, as the whole family was thrown out of their house in the middle of winter), in fact, risking their liberty.

    However, upon exaggeration the truth becomes a lie, and the person telling it becomes a liar. If you don’t like this point, keep worshipping the lies you were fed. The liars would be happy.

  295. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Gg Mo

    You are mixing your metaphors. Lazar Kaganovich was a ruthless Stalin’s sidekick, who reportedly made sure that the peasants in Ukraine receive no help from the state, so that he could boast about his “success” in leading Ukraine. Vicky (f… the EU) Nuland is a tool of the US neocons and globalists who was instrumental in bringing to power Ukrainian regime, which is shamelessly speculating on Holodomor myth. This regime is a creation and a pawn of imperial globalists. Its goal was (maybe still is, if neocons are dumb enough) to use Nazi-led Ukraine as a battering ram to beat Russia into submission for resisting imperial power. So, pick your side of the barricades and remain there. It is hard to sit on two chairs with one ass.

    • 回复: @RobinG
  296. RobinG 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Perhaps GgMo was confused by annamaria’s whimsical title, the “Kaganate of Nuland.”

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  297. Isn’t it time to quit with the pretense of this being a democratic republic? The financial interests own both parties and any and all candidates vying for office. Gabbard has only one redeeming quality and that is she comes off anti war. Other than that she is a liberal. Love for kosher land almost negates her anti war stance. I reluctantly voted for
    Trump in 2016, and I won’t be making the same mistake again. Gabbard would be a wasted vote. I didn’t vote in ’12 out of sheer disgust and I probably won’t in 2020 unless
    I write my own name in, but then again
    I think we need to burn the whole thing down , so I guess voting would be pointless. George Carlin had it right 20 years ago.

  298. FvS 说:
    @Art

    If Rand Paul was Ann Coulter on immigration, he could win the presidency.

  299. Anonymous [AKA "charrob"] 说:

    Tulsi Gabbard’s pro-war pro-interventionist actual congressional roll-call votes:

    [更多]

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    H RES 397: NATO
    Vote Date: June 27, 2017 Vote: AYE Bad Vote.

    “This legislation (H. Res. 397) “solemnly reaffirms the commitment of the United States to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s principle of collective defense as enumerated in Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.” Under Article 5, the member nations of the NATO military alliance “agree that an armed attack against one or more of them … shall be considered an attack against them all.”

    The House passed H. Res. 397 on June 27, 2017 by a lopsided vote of 423 to 4 (Roll Call 328). We have assigned pluses to the nays not only because the United States should stay clear of entangling alliances such as NATO, but also because the NATO provision that obligates the United States to go to war if any member of NATO is attacked undermines the provision in the U.S. Constitution that assigns to Congress the power to declare war. Moreover, the number of nations that the United States has pledged to defend under NATO has grown from 11 to 28 over the years, as the alliance itself has grown from 12 member nations (including the United States) when NATO was created in 1949 to 29 today. Although NATO was ostensibly formed to counter the threat from the Soviet bloc of nations, some of the nations the United States is now pledged to defend under NATO were once part of that bloc, including Albania, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic (as part of Czechoslovakia), Hungary, Poland, and Romania.”

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    H R 5293: Authorization for Use of Military Force

    Vote Date: June 16, 2016 Vote: NAY Bad Vote.

    “During consideration of the Defense Appropriations bill (H.R. 5293), Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) introduced an amendment to prohibit the use of funds in the bill for the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force Act. Enacted in the wake of 9/11, the AUMF authorized the president to “use all necessary and appropriate force” against the terrorists involved, as well as those who aided or harbored them. It was used as the authorization for U.S. military entry into Afghanistan in 2001, and over the years has also been invoked on other occasions by the executive branch to justify U.S. military intervention abroad.

    The House rejected Lee’s amendment on June 16, 2016 by a vote of 146 to 274 (Roll Call 330). We have assigned pluses to the yeas because presidents have been able to claim broad authority to go to war whenever or wherever they choose under the AUMF, despite the fact that the Founding Fathers never intended for one man to make this decision, and under the Constitution only Congress may “declare war.””

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    H R 4909: Use of Military Force

    Vote Date: May 18, 2016 Vote: NAY Bad Vote.

    “During consideration of the National Defense Authorization Act (H.R. 4909), Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) introduced an amendment to repeal the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) that was enacted in 2001 for the purpose of authorizing U.S. military intervention in Afghanistan in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks. Since then, however, the AUMF has been invoked numerous times by the executive branch for U.S. military intervention not only in Afghanistan but elsewhere.

    The House rejected Lee’s amendment on May 18, 2016 by a vote of 138 to 285 (Roll Call 210). We have assigned pluses to the yeas because presidents have been able to claim broad authority to go to war whenever or wherever they choose under the AUMF, despite the fact that the Founding Fathers never intended for one man to make this decision, and under the Constitution only Congress may “declare war.””

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    H RES 162: Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hres162

    Vote Date: March 23, 2015 Vote: AYE Bad Vote.

    “Ukraine Military Aid.
    House Resolution 162, which calls on the president “to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity,” allows President Obama to provide Ukraine with defensive weapons to defend against aggression from Russia.

    The House adopted H. Res. 162 on March 23, 2015 by a vote of 348 to 48 (Roll Call 131). We have assigned pluses to the nays not only because foreign aid is unconstitutional but also because this bill would further interject the United States into a foreign conflict. Allowing the U.S. president to provide lethal arms to Ukraine in order to fight Russia is tantamount to waging a proxy war on Russia without the constitutionally required congressional declaration of war. The House, by giving such power to the president, is relinquishing one of its constitutional responsibilities.”

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    H R 4870: On Agreeing to the Amendment 51 to H R 4870

    Vote Date: June 19, 2014 Vote: NAY Bad Vote.

    “Weapons to Syrian Rebels.
    During consideration of the Defense Appropriations bill, Representative Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.) introduced an amendment that would have prohibited any funding in the bill from being used to provide weapons to Syrian rebels. Fortenberry noted on the House floor that “the rebel movement is a battleground of shifting alliances and bloody conflicts between groups that now include multinational terrorist organizations,” that “sending our weapons into this chaotic war zone could inadvertently help these extremists,” and that “it has already happened.” He added: “The naive notion that we can deliver weapons to vetted, moderate opposition groups at war with other rebel militias gives no guarantee that our weaponry won’t be seized or diverted.”

    The House rejected Fortenberry’s amendment on June 19, 2014 by a vote of 167 to 244 (Roll Call 328). We have assigned pluses to the yeas because arming “moderate” rebels in a foreign country is tantamount to going to war, which would require a declaration of war by Congress. Also, the United States should follow the Founders’ advice not to become involved in foreign quarrels”

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    H R 4152: To provide for the costs of loan guarantees for Ukraine

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4152

    Vote Date: April 1, 2014 Vote: AYE Bad Vote.

    “Ukraine Aid.

    This bill (H.R. 4152), as amended by the Senate (see Senate vote below), would provide $150 million for direct aid to Ukraine. It would also provide for loan guarantees (meaning that U.S. taxpayers would be stuck holding the bag if the loans are not paid). And it would impose sanctions on Russian and ex-Ukrainian officials deemed responsible for the crisis in the Ukraine.

    [ The Senate version of this legislation – offered in the form of a substitute amendment to the House version, H.R. 4152 – would provide $150 million for direct aid to Ukraine. It would also provide for loan guarantees (meaning that the U.S. taxpayers would be stuck holding the bag if the loans are not paid). And it would impose sanctions on Russian and ex-Ukrainian officials deemed responsible for the crisis in the Ukraine. ]

    The House voted for this legislation on April 1, 2014 by a vote of 378 to 34 (Roll Call 149). We have assigned pluses to the nays because foreign aid is unconstitutional. The rationale for providing U.S. aid to Ukraine is that the country needs our assistance to resist Russian hegemony and build “democracy.” Yet the oligarchs wielding power in Ukraine are hardly “democrats,” and (because money is fungible) U.S. assistance could effectively be funneled to Russia in the form of Ukrainian energy and debt payments.”

    ----------
    information from:

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/freedom-index

  300. L.K 说:
    @Mike P

    So what caused this widespread starvation? Just crop failures?

    嘿迈克,

    One of the leading Russian historians on the Stalinist period, Oleg Khlevniuk, a senior researcher at the State Archive of the Russian Federation in Moscow, wrote in his book “Stalin: new biography of a dictator”, regarding the famines:

    除了这个数字之外,我们还必须加上周期性饥荒或饥饿的受害者,仅在 1932 年至 1933 年期间,它们就夺走了 5 到 7 万人的生命。 斯大林主义的饥荒主要是政治决定的结果。 在打击农民反对集体化的运动中,斯大林主义政府利用饥荒作为“惩罚”农村的手段。 所有缓解这种情况的机会——比如在国外购买粮食——都被拒绝了。 饥饿的村庄被没收了他们最后的食物储备。

    诚挚的问候

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @Mike P
  301. @AnonFromTN

    If you don’t like this point, keep worshiping the lies you were fed.

    No one fed me those truths.

    You seem a bit confused, more than a little histrionic, quite hostile, and I don’t appreciate either your assumptions or your approach, so you’re doing little beyond encouraging me to believe what I stated.

    You seem to be hiding something as well, so please keep your worthless, condescending, and unasked for advice to yourself because it’s apparent you don’t know JS and are probably a liar in addition and a mouthy, paranoid one at that.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  302. @RobinG

    If there were a Holodomor article, it would be obvious that we won’t settle this here, but funny to see how quickly – and oddly – you resort to Hasbara accusations.

    继续笑。

    Actually, that’s exactly what several, including you, have said here.

    When I wrote “no one,” I was referring to 我自己 (it’s sort of a figure of speech for native speakers of American English in a dialogue which is a discussion between persons, i.e., you and me) and I hadn’t noticed that anyone was “defending” me, so you’re wrong on that point as well. “…the starvation campaign that hit Ukraine was indeed real and targeted,” and “The area was populated by German farmers (Black Sea Germans) … And of course, Stalin targeted them too because they were 德语设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

    Please note that he didsay Ukrainians were targeted. He said 德国 were targeted. I understand that productive 德国 在地区 other than the Ukraine had been targeted for displacement and destruction even pre-Bolshie. I further understand that they had been persecuted in many other ways as well.

    BTW, the bar was set extremely low for Kulak designation, including anyone who kept a single cow.

    I understand and have long been aware of that. You don’t even get the fact that with that statement you’re supporting my contention that the Holodomor was at least partly an 故意 holocaust. The drought at the time may have contributed to the mortality, but that’s not the whole story as you seem to be attempting to imply, and as your comment immediately above indicates.

    You’re consistent logical failures, snark, and attempts to twist fine points are typical for a person who lies. And there’s something quite strange about your attempts to whitewash and cover up the Holodomor crimes. The more you people squeal and try to deny the truth, the more obvious it all becomes.

    So keep digging holes for yourselves and thank you very much.

  303. I did not research this specially…

    Why would you need to when you attempted to set yourself up as some sort of authority on the matter with this BS …

    Unlike some people, I was born and grew up in Ukraine, so I know the reality first-hand, not from Deep State propaganda fed to gullible people for many years.

    PS: Your contradictions are showing.

    Note to others. Anyone who attempts to downplay the Ukrainian Holocaust is both lying and untrustworthy and a whitewasher of Bloshie crimes. Robin, ignoring my comment about Foxman warning the Ukraine to 淡化 that holocaust in a typically smug fashion, wails about my calling her out as a hasbarist as if she isn’t one!

    This is all on topic because it’s pretty easy to see that the usual mendacious, vicious forces are work marketing Gabbard and any other “candidate” for high public office. Beware.

  304. @L.K

    Thanks, L.K., there are 许多 other very credible sources confirming that as well.

  305. @AnonFromTN

    Uncle Joe was a criminal (since early age) and a murderer (also since early age). However, if the person has murdered three people and you say that that person murdered ten, you are telling seven lies, even though the person in question deserves to be hanged for what he really did.

    咄。

    However, upon exaggeration the truth becomes a lie, and the person telling it becomes a liar. If you don’t like this point, keep worshipping the lies you were fed. The liars would be happy.

    Along with rolling my eyes, I want to tell you to just shuddup, but I’d rather read what you have to say about the 6 million. Is that figure a lie or merely an exaggeration, or what?

    PS: You used the term “kulak.” You do know, don’t you, that in this context and coming from you that could be considered an anti-goy remark?

  306. @Gg Mo

    “Backlash” could be theatre .

    It sure could be!

    感谢您的意见。

  307. @Minnesota Mary

    如果 Tulsi Gabbard 能够就外交政策对美国人进行教育,我将感谢她的候选资格。

    算我一个!

  308. @Authenticjazzman

    So what you are really saying is : “If GT can persuade Americans to adopt her Democrat/leftist viewpoints and consider them, as crazy and off-base as they are,…blah blah, blah…

    Hey genius, she doesn’t need some goof putting words into her mouth.

    She clearly stated, “If Tulsi Gabbard can educate Americans on foreign policy, I will be grateful for her candidacy.”

    What’s your problem with that?

    PS: Some genius; you don’t even do snark well.

    • 回复: @Authenticjazzman
  309. @AnonFromTN

    Finally, if Stalin and communist system were to blame, who do you blame for the famine on the Polish side?

    The Poles who hated and had long been persecuting Germans. For instance, ever hear of Danzig and how those people were treated?

    Now that wasn’t too difficult, was it?

    Is to growing up there, I was born way later, but I talked to a lot of older people when I was a teenager.

    Talking to old people does 不能 constitute first hand experience, which means your original claim is a blatant lie and a clumsy attempt to make yourself appear authoritative. Most old people in America still think that FDR, Uncle Joey’s buddy, walked on water and they are all FoS. Both were worse than swine although Joey, to his credit, did exterminate some of the old Bolshies.

    Let me tell you again that your wise mouth approach, big shot attitude, stupid sappy remarks about gullibility, “Deep State,” and what not, and attempted lies do not enhance your credibility. Your condescending yapping is amusing though, so keep it up.

  310. @Der ex-Deutsche

    Anon from TN is nuts…

    Thanks. It’s pretty obvious that he 和他的支持者 are nuts. Notice too, how they think they can lie and get away with it.

    I have encountered Slavs before whom are either completely unaware of this targeted slaughter, or in conplete denial of it. And why would they be? To protect the precious Stalin? Can’t figure that one out.

    While I can understand why they could be unaware of it, I also don’t understand why they would deny it when presented with the idea. Notice how vehemently I was attacked for even bringing up the subject, for instance. Some of them even agree with me that Stalin was a monster, yet want to cover up his and his henchmen’s crimes. I suspect they’re covering for his henchmen and we all know who/what they were.

    What’s particularly bizarre is the claim that it’s Deep State propaganda. How could that be when almost no Americans have ever heard of it? If anything, the “Deep State” has always had an interest in keeping Bolshie crimes hidden as is shown by the example of the filthy liar and Poolitzer prize winner, Walter Duranty. The “Deep State”even went so far as to “disappear” Gareth Jones for reporting the truth at the time. Eugene Lyons even apologized for knowingly falsifying the facts, if I remember correctly (I’ll try to find some time to look that up).

    Finally, TN Anon does express himself as if he’s unhinged with his wild claims, disgusting assumptions and adolescent smears. His defenders are hardly better. Thanks again.

  311. I have no beef with Ms Gabbard as a person.

    但是,问题的答案

    Tulsi Gabbard是真实的吗?

    has to be a definite “no.” The Tulsi we see is being marketed for mass consumption by the usual suspects such as those who employed Walter Duranty to write absolute lies and for which he obtained a Poolitzer Prize, even.

    美国已准备好成为真正的和平候选人

    The sane parts of America have 时刻 been ready for peace candidates and politicians are at least savvy enough to know that they’re obligated to mouth platitudes about it even while working actively against it. She may be sincere, and I’m happy to see that her attitudes about foreign wars are getting exposure, but if she were to obtain the position she desires she, like Humpty tRumpty, will do as her handlers please and only as her handlers please even if they need to produce another 9/11 to delude people into going along with them.

    I don’t think she’s a liar, but I do think there’s a good chance she could be yet another useful idiot.

  312. @RobinG

    Perhaps GgMo was confused by annamaria’s whimsical title, the “Kaganate of Nuland.”

    Probably not, but I’m amused at the idea that probably neither you nor TN have a problem sitting on two chairs with one (very wide, corpulent) tush.

    • 回复: @Gg Mo
    , @Gg Mo
  313. Mike P 说:
    @L.K

    感谢。

    We have several questions here that we should disentangle:

    1. Was there indeed a famine that killed several millions? People seem to be agreed on this.

    2. Did the famine have a natural cause or component (crop failure due to weather and/or pests)? People don’t seem to take issue with this either.

    3. Did the political leaders make the famine worse on purpose, for political aims? This still seems to be accepted by most; and this is what your quotation supports also.

    4. If 3. is true, was the intentionally exacerbated starvation aimed at peasants (independent farmers/”kulaks”) in general, or at specific ethnic groups (Ukrainians or Germans)? I think this is where opinion diverges most.

    -

    There is a collection of supposed secret service documents on the issue, prepared apparently by Polish and Ukrainian historians:

    PDF here:

    http://history.org.ua/LiberUA/978-83-7629-077-5/978-83-7629-077-5.pdf

    I haven’t yet gone through it, but it is all in English and contains no facsimiles of the originals whatsoever, which in a book of >600 pages seems a bit off.

    • 回复: @L.K
  314. @jacques sheete

    嗨,雅克!

    Are you aware of Jewish Yevgeny Yevtushenko’s 1961 poem, “Babi Yar”? This work has a monument at Yad Vashem and some Soviets did not like being linked with anti-Semitism.

    At any rate, as a student of USSR politics & Socialist Realism in Art, I figured especially during the current clash with pontifical others here, fyr below, I link an interview with the late-Yevtushenko.

    Thanks for exhibiting honorable strength in your comments & not backing down from little & proud minds.

    https://csosoundsandstories.org/yevtushenko-on-babi-yar-shostakovich-and-the-birth-of-a-symphony/

  315. anarchyst 说:
    @Vojkan

    I wouldn’t worry about American nukes being used. It is the “undocumented Israeli nukes” that the world should be concerned about.
    Israel needs no “delivery systems” for its nukes as they are already deployed and “in place” around the world.
    Why do yo think that Israel refuses to account for its nukes. Israel could not produce them or account for them because they are already “ready to go”, being “pre-positioned” in major cities around the world.
    The latest “nuclear deployment occurred in Atlanta during the major power outage which occurred on December 17, 2017. An Israeli jet was allowed to land and deliver its “cargo” without being inspected by U S Customs, as Israel has a “special agreement” with the U S government that relieves it from customs inspections.
    Look up the “samson option”…it is very real and is the penultimate threat to world peace.

    • 回复: @Robjil
  316. @ChuckOrloski

    Thanks for exhibiting honorable strength in your comments & not backing down from little & proud minds.

    非常欢迎你。

    The despicable Izzy firsters (including the Trumpettes…you listening, Wally?) and bombastic Bolshie apologists only strengthen my resolve. If those wretched clowns think I’ll back down, they have it bass akwards, and they don’t know JS. Whenever I catch the type in another filthy lie, I write the wretches off and I’ve learned from the Izzies and Bolshies themselves to take no prisoners and they can look to Satan for forgiveness.

    I keep telling the putrid imbeciles that you can fool almost all of us dumb goyim almost all of the time, but not all of us all of the time, but they’re too smug and stupid to take either the hint or a hike, even with nice Izzy made sandals.

    And in case anyone is wondering about Tulsi, my new response is that the scumsucker, Walter Duranty, lives on, spreading outrageous BS everywhere.

  317. @ChuckOrloski

    Chuck, thanks for the link. From the article,

    I would be happy if my poem “Babi Yar” would become irrelevant — the sooner the better. But that will happen only when anti-Semitism disappears.

    Anti-Semitism ( what a stupid term as he used it), will disappear only when 反戈伊主义 disappears…

    I hope the goyim aren’t suckered, again, by any so called “peace” appointee (not candidate). I wonder how many Peace Prizes she’ll get for her efforts.

  318. AnonFromTN 说:
    @jacques sheete

    You brilliantly illustrate the fact that when people run out of arguments, they resort to personal insults.

    As arguing with “true believers” is totally useless, regardless of how nonsensical their beliefs are, I stop there. Cheers!

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  319. Robjil 说:
    @anarchyst

    The Worst ( the former West) is now a huge concentration camp. Werk Macht Frei – like the work we do here on the internet is only the way we can free this planet. The over protection of Zionist/Judaic bigwigs is destroying the minds, bodies and souls of the human race and the planet itself with their wars that destroy millions of human lives, world heritage sites, pollution of soils from deleted uranium and with this samson option which could cause the end of this planet as we know it.

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  320. 关于古拉格问题:

    Viktor Zemskov(改革时期的历史学家)发表在“社会学调查”杂志上的文章,他澄清了古拉格政治犯的统计数据。

    https://culturaproletaria.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/gulag/

    [更多]

    ( This is an Spanish translation by a group of comrades researchers, but you could probably find it in Russian, there is a link to the “Sociologial Investigations” review, and may be even in other languages, as well, if not, try to translate it from Russian or Spanish to your language, and spread the knowledge, compañero, contribute to spread the truth about communism! for the sake of the proletarians of the world! )

    我只会翻译介绍性的段落,这样你就可以让自己有一个想法,为什么不,就翻译的意图张开嘴:

    “The objective of this article is to show an authentic statistic of the prisoners of the GULAG, a part already has appeared in articles of A.N. Nudin, V.F. Nekrasov (1) and in the weekly “Argumenty i fakty”.

    尽管存在这些出版物,其中提供了关于古拉格囚犯人数的真实数据和文件确认,但苏联和外国社会完全受到与历史现实不符的虚构统计数据的影响,包含在外国作者(R. Conquest、S. Cohen 等)的作品以及苏联研究人员的出版物(RA Medvedev、VA Chalikova 等)中。 此外,在所有这些作者的作品中,与真实统计数据的差异从来没有朝着减少的方向发展,而只是朝着增加的方向发展。 它给人的印象是他们相互竞争,用数字给读者带来惊喜,换句话说,天文数字。

    例如,这里是 S. Cohen 所写(摘自 R. Conquest “The Great Terror”一书,1968 年在美国出版):“…… 1939 年底监狱和集中营中的囚犯人数集中增长到 9 万人(相比之下,30 年为 1928 万人,5-1933 年为 1935 万人)。 (2) 事实上,1940 年 1,334,408 月,GULAG 集中营有 315,584 名囚犯,GULAG 殖民地 190,266 人,监狱 1,850,258 人,总共有 1 名囚犯在集中营、殖民地和监狱之间(表 5),即, R. Conquest 和 S. Cohen 提供的数据增加了近 XNUMX 倍。

    苏联研究员 VA Chalikova 重复了 Conquest 和 Cohen,并说:“根据不同数据的记载表明,1937 年至 1959 年之间,他们在田地里,占地很大,人口在 8 到 12 万之间”(3)。 VA Chalikova 给出了特定日期 GULAG 中最多 12 万囚犯的数量(显然在“领域”的概念中包括殖民地),但实际上在 1934 年至 1953 年期间,GULAG 中的最大囚犯人数是1 年 1950 月 2,561,351 日,人数为 1 人(见表 XNUMX)。 因此,VA Chalikova 继 R. Conquest 和 S. Cohen 之后,将古拉格的真实囚犯人数增加了大约六倍。

    他还对古拉格·赫鲁晓夫囚犯统计数据中的混乱问题做出了贡献,他显然是为了提高自己作为斯大林主义镇压受害者解放者角色的价值,在他的回忆录中写道:“ ……当斯大林去世时,集中营里有 10 万人”(4)。 事实上,1 年 1953 月 2,468,524 日,GULAG 有 1,727,970 名囚犯:740,554 人在集中营,1 人在殖民地(见表 XNUMX)。 在十月革命的中央国家档案馆中,苏联内政部地址的报告副本以 NS 赫鲁晓夫的名义发送,其中包括在斯大林死后的其他时刻的囚犯人数的确切指示。 赫鲁晓夫非常了解古拉格囚犯的实际人数,并将其增加了四倍……”

  321. 问题是,苏联社会在地球的整个历史(包括今天的历史)中所达到的最短时间里达到了尽可能高的发展水平,对于苏联这样一个幅员辽阔的国家的所有国民来说,通过实现充分就业、充分住房、充分识字和前所未有的高等教育水平,最终在 80 年代彻底消除贫困……

    问问你自己,为什么这样的制度被政变推翻,无视政变前不久通过全民公决表达的苏联人民的意愿……嗯,整个世界,尤其是二战后受过战争训练的欧洲无产阶级,都在看....以那种社会模式为例...这就是为什么一台妖魔化机器在行军......在各个层面上,不惜一切代价,以迷惑人们,让他们没有参考,以便能够在剥削者的虐待面前为自己辩护……

    从那时起,不仅是俄罗斯社会,而且是整个世界的社会,都只是经历了一次内卷化,因为在那个历史性的耻辱时刻,朝着更加公正的社会的发展进程被方便地刹车了。

    现在,特朗普和他的追随者将我们带回了更远的驰骋,不是回到前工业时代,而是回到石器时代……与自中世纪以来一直锚定的中东总督结盟……。

  322. Well, on the “Holomodor” issue, here it is an article on origins of the very term “Holomodor”, in which it had, how not, an estelar role the infamous “Harvard University”, as well as the Galitzian immigrant community in the US, whose supported nazi sympathizers were placed in charge of Ukraine by the coup d´etat which overthrew the legitimate goverment in 2014, and was at that time, and continue being, widely supported by the US.

    本文由 avante.pt 的“Cultura Proletaria”翻译,当时是从“Rabóchaia Gazeta”,n.º 215, 21 de Noviembre de 2008 翻译的,其俄文原文可在 http://www.rg.kiev.ua/page5/article12595/ (目前已禁用,根据我的测试,最有可能是目前的乌克兰当局……考虑到 PCU 现在在乌克兰和俄语一起被禁止,其成员被纳粹死亡小队以死亡威胁起诉…… ..),由于篇幅较短,我将其全部翻译……

    《Holodomor:系统的烟幕》

    https://culturaproletaria.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/holodomor-la-cortina-de-humo-del-sistema/

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    “今天乌克兰的人口损失是 1932 年至 1933 年饥荒造成的死亡率的数倍,但政府并未就此表态。 为什么? 这个问题的答案是在乌克兰共产党组织的“圆桌会议”期间由著名的乌克兰科学家给我们的。

    Opening the “round table”, the secretary of the CC of the PCU, Georgii Vladimirovich Buiko, said: “What is at stake is not the fact of hunger itself, which no one denies, but its interpretation as genocide.” Georgii Vladimirovich noted that “although the word holodomor has a root in the word golog (famine in Ukrainian), the content of both is substantially different. Holodomor (often in the Western media the expression Holodomor is used because of its similarity to the word holocaust (NT)), it not only means a great famine, but it is an ideological conception that acts on the consciousness of the masses, it is precisely from a conscious extermination of the Ukrainian people through famine. That is why it is convenient to begin to see from what, where and how the concept of holodomor-genocide was generated “.

    一个特殊的哈佛项目

    On the origins of the term holodomor, Georgi Tkatchenko stated that “this concept emerged as an integral part of a special project of Harvard University that was used for informative-psychological distractions against the USSR. Some researchers attribute the authorship of the term holodomor to the American James Meiss. Although his works were not considered by the American scientific media, the architects of the Cold War noticed him and he obtained a teaching position at Harvard University. However, in the opinion of most researchers, the real authors of the exchange of concepts were the Ukrainian nationalists of the media of emigration from Galicia (region located in southern Poland, western Ukraine). In particular, one Dmitro Solovei, who in 1944 fled the Ukraine with the Germans. After exchanging German businessmen for the Americans, he published in 1953 in the USA. the book “The famine in Ukraine”, in which he assures that the famine was an instrument of extermination of the Ukrainians. Later, the issue of “famine-genocide” was developed by British diplomat and spy Robert Conquest. For his book “The Harvest of Sorrow” (“The Harvest of Pain” (1986)), he received money from the Ukrainian nationalists. Western scientists who analyzed this book showed that the author used material from the chronicles of World War I and photographs of the famine that affected the Povoljia region (Volga Basin in southern Russia) in 1921″.

    On the supposed denial of the famine of the early 30s by the PCU, Georgii Buiko considered such a very strange statement and quoted a note written by Georgy Kriutchkov, deputy of the people elected in previous legislatures, in which it is recalled that “even in 1990, the Politburo of the CC of the PCU approved a resolution on the famine, deciding the publication of archival materials on this matter. The political assessment contained in this document indicates that the famine of 1932-1933 constitutes a tragedy for the Ukrainian people. On top of that, the illegitimate acts and abuses committed during the collectivization were condemned. It is interesting to see that practically the same is said in the resolution of the General Conference of UNESCO in 2007”.

    移民和帮助

    There is also a lot of speculation about the number of victims of the famine. Incredible numbers are evoked and a “deadly” fact is transmitted: the 1933 harvest was made by immigrants from Russia and Belarus. Apparently, there is even a decree that confirms it. “Indeed, such a decree exists”, said Professor Vitali Khartchenko, editor-in-chief of the magazine “Kommunist”. “But it was only approved on August 31 (from 1933) and applied in November, when the harvest was over.” And how many immigrants came? “In the archives there are very precise data: 117,000 people. Now, it is evident that such a number of people could not make up for the loss of “many millions”.

    According to Vitali Khartchenko, “one of the reasons for the tragedy of 1932-1933 in Ukraine was the very bad harvest in Povoljie, Western Siberia and in some other regions of the Russian Federation in 1931. These regions were provided with help in supplying of seeds, as determined by a resolution of the CC of the PCU (b) (Communist Party of the Whole Union (Bolshevik)). At the time when it was considered that the year had been relatively good in Ukraine, this republic stopped receiving this type of aid. In addition, under the conditions of accelerated industrialization, a very demanding bread supply plan was established. However, If there had not been the famine of 1931 in Russia and a sharp drop in the prices of cereals in international markets (which forced an increase in exports of cereals), the most probable thing would have been to avoid such a tragic development of events. .

    在“共产主义”杂志上发表了 PCU (b) 中央委员会关于乌克兰的所有决议。 自 1932 年以来,乌克兰获得永久援助:种子、食品和口粮。 同样,与 200 年相比,谷物供应计划减少到 16.3 亿普特(前俄罗斯的措施相当于 1931 公斤)。随后,根据斯大林的命令,减少了 40 万普特,后来甚至减少了 70 万普特。 “

    戈培尔和 SBU

    Vitali Khartchenko also drew attention to the fact that “even some supporters of the hysteria initiated by the current president of Ukraine began to avoid the word genocide. This only testifies to the fragility of their positions. “

    An interesting example, which refutes the planned nature of the famine, was given by the head of the department of ideology of the CC of the PCU, Vladimir Pustoboitov: “Throughout the war, Hitler’s Germany did not use, practically, the theme of the “Terror for famine”, which, one might say, had been exploited in terms of propaganda. However, they knew the authentic information on the subject. The German Consulate in Ukraine prepared, in those years, reports for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. These documents are published. What is said in them is that the Soviet government did not calculate its resources well. He never mentioned, even the possibility of a planned famine. These documents were known in the services of Goebbels and, after their analysis, they gave up on the subject “.

    The participants of the “round table” recalled that the holodomor exhibitions, held regularly by the Ukrainian Security Services (SBU), where practically all photographs referred to the famine of 1921 in the Povoljie region. But in addition to that, the rector of the Jewish People’s University, Aleksandr Naiman, accused the SBU of anti-Semitism. He presented as evidence the list prepared by the SBU of the collaborators of the NKVD-GPU (People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs, State Political Direction of the USSR) allegedly involved in the organization of the holodomor. In this list, he said, “there are people who could never have been” organizers “of the holodomor, from the heads of the transport and statistics departments to the representative of Crimea, which at that time was not part of the Ukraine. But the main thing is the careful selection of names, almost all Russians and Jews. On the other hand, in relation to the latter, they placed their real surnames in parentheses in cases in which their Jewish origin was not perceptible through the names they had adopted “.

    Aleksandr Naiman recalled that “at the time of the “Case of the Doctors” and the struggle against the “stateless cosmopolitans”, in some Soviet newspapers appeared similar decipherings of the surnames of the people under investigation. Stalin said then: “this smells of anti-Semitism”. Today the SBU not only smell, but are impregnated with that essence “.

    覆盖犯罪轨迹

    What is the reason for this concerted and systematic action to inculcate in the consciousness of the masses the idea of ​​holodomor-genocide? Political scientist Viktor Pirojenko noted that “the greatest human losses caused by hunger occurred in the population of eastern Ukraine, which is now oriented towards friendship with Russia. Therefore, this concept is used above all to discredit the common past between Russia and Ukraine and aims to associate Russia with the image of the enemy. “

    Besides that, the power tries to cover the clues of its own crimes against the people. In this sense, Professor Mikhail Rodionov pointed out that “the demographic losses of the present Ukraine far outweigh the mortality in the years of famine. The population of Ukraine decreased systematically. In some eastern regions of the country, the population decreased by 20%. We are in the presence of a policy aimed at the extermination of its own citizens. Seeking to postpone the moment in which, sooner or later, he will have to answer for the real and not mythical genocide, the system creates a smokescreen in the form of holodomor-genocide. “

    • 回复: @RobinG
  323. @jacques sheete

    Are you familiar with Operation Keelhaul? If not, look it up. Another criminal act.

    I’ve read Patton was outraged by it, threatened to take it public.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  324. 在同一网站上发表的关于同一“Holomodor”问题的更多文章是这些(我强烈建议您尝试用翻译器翻译它们,以便能够理解......所有这些都必须阅读,完全揭穿虚构的神话并揭开其作者身份):

    * 《大饥荒,“欧洲”反共的新化身》,由巴黎第七大学当代历史教授安妮·拉克鲁瓦-里兹 (Annie Lacroix-Riz) 撰写。

    https://culturaproletaria.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/holodomor-el-nuevo-avatar-del-anticomunismo-europeo/

    * “In search of the Soviet holocaust, a 55-year-old famine that feeds the right”, Originally published in the “Village Voice” (New York) by Jeff Coplon, on January 12, 1988.

    https://culturaproletaria.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/en-busca-del-holocausto-sovietico-una-hambruna-de-55-anos-que-alimenta-a-la-derecha/

    *“Ukraine liberates itself” (1918), written by Stalin and published in “Zhizn Nalsionálnostei” (nº4) and in “Pravda” (nº 261, with some modifications) on December 1st, 1918.

    https://culturaproletaria.wordpress.com/2016/10/25/ucrania-se-libera-1918/

  325. denk 说:

    Jeeze, talk about self delusion.

    When murikkans were still swooning over their ‘great white hope’ Trump, I already told them a system that churned out 44 war pigs as POTUS in a row isnt gonna produce a peacenik overnite.

    它是 特点,不是错误。

    Mathematically.provable,

    Ian Fleming’s fundamental law of prob says..
    ‘Once is accident, twice coincidence,thrice…
    enemy action’

    条件概率
    [Trump would be a peacenik/ given all previous
    44 were war pigs]
    = 几乎 0

    It has already been vindicated.

    The longer this circus goes on, the more compelling the argument become.

    对于2020,

    条件概率
    [46th potus would be a peacenik/ given all previous 45 have been war pigs]
    = 几乎 0.

    QED

  326. Sparkon 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    The excerpt I posted from Wikipedia reflects closely what I learned about Soviet collectivization and dekulakization as a college student back in the 1960s, long before there was any Wikipedia.

    As you know, Iosef Stalin was a murderous thug. He had liquidated many of his senior Red Army and Air Force commanders right on the eve on the German attack, and indeed even after the war had started. There was no shortage of Red Army generals, nor of Red Army reserves to feed into the breach.

    After the Germans attacked the Soviet Union, many of the ethnic German inhabitants of the Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic of the Volga Germans were banished to Siberia and Kazakhstan, and the Автономная Советская Социалистическая Республика Немцев Поволжья was abolished by 1941. According to the census of 1939, there were 366,685 ethnic Germans in the VGA SSR, along with appreciable numbers of 156,027 Russians and 58,248 Ukrainians.

    In general, it is always a bad idea — and an 临时工 logical fallacy besides — to attack a source. Rather, counterarguments should be made against the specific point under discussion.

    It shouldn’t take much imagination to understand that peasants of all nationalities and/or ethnic backgrounds would resist giving up their possessions to the Soviet hacks sent down to the kolkhoz to run things. Commonly, these Red commissars and apparatchiks were urban Jews with little knowledge of agriculture, transportation, or anything else. The rapid, massive, and arbitrary change-over to state ownership was not without serious problems — Charlie Foxtrot — that overwhelmed the theoretical organization’s ability to function. Live and learn. Unfortunately, the resident peasants who were the experts had been separated from their own little patch of turf, but no worries, the commissars had a central plan.

    On 27 December 1929 Stalin officially announced the forthcoming ‘liquidation of the Kulaks as a Class’. Dekulakization consisted of the expropriation of the richer peasants’ households that were officially labeled ‘kulak’ and the expulsion of their members from the village.

    The decree on Dekulikization established three categories of kulaks. The first: ‘counterrevolutionary kulak activists’ were subject to incarceration or execution; their families were exiled. The second, ‘kulak activists’ were to be exiled to distant parts of the Soviet Union. The third, the majority, were to be resettled outside, but nearby, collective farms. Two million peasants of the first two categories were deported in 1930-1931.

    https://socialhistory.org/en/today/12-27/liquidation-kulaks

    About that same time, Stalin decreed that anti-semitism was punishable by death. Wonder why?

    在苏联,反犹太主义应受到法律的最严厉惩处,因为这是对苏联制度的深恶痛绝的现象。 根据苏联法律,活跃的反犹太人将被判处死刑。

    斯大林
    January 12, 1931

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  327. @Robjil

    Robjil wrote what I consider as an Epiphany/Warning & (possible) Lifeline to the Zionized West:
    “The Worst ( the former West) is now a huge concentration camp. Werk Macht Frei – like the work we do here on the internet is only the way we can free this planet.”

    嘿罗布吉尔!

    Furthering American awareness of their captivity is tough-tough work thanks to a century of “Zionist/Judaic bigwigs” relentless & dedicated (indoctrination) work of destroying mind, body, and soul.

    At present, I suggest a dangerous percentage of American dumb goyim “general population” captives are become aware about their indebted “bread & profaned circuses” concentration camp existence. No doubt, the “Zionist/Judaic bigwigs” expected such inevitable awakening, and have now embarked upon a Likud-jackboot response which will signal to the Western-based masses exactly WHO is BOSS.

    Article below, fyr, you will see enlightening video on how the captive Western (“Dead”) souls * were even treated to a Zio “black tie/Armani suit” Munich conference!

    Thanks so much for your educational comment(s), Robjil, and I sense satanic war against Iran is scheduled to begin very soon. Ritual Purim start-up timing? Hm.

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/02/18/588869/Munich-Insecurity-Conference

    * From Gogol’s “Dead Souls.”

    Yours truly & in the forever flyin’ spirit of Charles Lindberg,

    小查尔斯·J·奥尔洛斯基
    Scranton, Pa

    • 同意: Robjil
  328. @wayfarer

    Seriously dude, if you can’t handle a little eye candy in the line-up at Santa Cruz or the North Shore, then you might as well go to Todos Santos and surf some real waves.

    • 回复: @wayfarer
  329. Gg Mo 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Victoria Nuland is Robert Kagan’s wife . I’ve been try to track down a familial connection between that Project for a New American Center/Institute for the Study of War (“Think Tanks”) and Lazar Kaganovich.

  330. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Sparkon

    Well, my warning about Wiki stands: many entries there are biased. The bias is not random, as you would expect from a supposedly “crowd-written” source: in every case the bias toes the line of the US State Department and Western MSM that serve the same puppet masters and parrot the lines promoted by the State Department (even though some journalists subsequently acknowledge that those lines were lies, like in recent case of BBC and alleged chemical attack in Syria).

    As to Stalin, I never said that he wasn’t a criminal. He was obsessed with power to the point of paranoia. I think that’s why he executed a lot of military commanders: he saw them as potential rivals. For the same reason Zhukov was demoted after WWII.

    As to “collectivization” and elimination of “kulaks”, the first was a huge blunder combined with a string of crimes, whereas the second was a crime of mass murder: presumed “kulaks” were eliminated not “as class”, but as living people. That is not disputed. What is disputed is the number of victims. This was grossly exaggerated by Western propaganda, probably to make the body count of communism look greater than an enormous body count of capitalism. Key point I was making is the same you are making: these crimes were not directed against a particular nationality, they were “equal opportunity”. Russians, who constituted more than half of the USSR population, suffered proportionately. Russian agriculture was devastated by those policies, which led to widespread hunger in the countryside in the USSR. The fact that Russia today is taking the same dominant position in grain exports that the Russian Empire had, whereas Soviet Union in 1970s-1980s was a huge importer of grains, speaks for itself.

    Finally, the issue of Jews. Stalin used the party and CheKa apparatus he inherited from Lenin, with numerous Jews in key positions. In fact, he later executed most of them (again, those executed party and CheKa functionaries were of various nationalities), which was one of very few good things he ever did (executing Bandera followers was another good thing we can ascribe to Stalin). Here again, we need to put things into proper perspective. Yes, Stalin was a mass murderer, but so were “democratic” Churchill and Roosevelt. So, when people from self-appointed “democracies” mount the high horse, it is either gullibility, or stupidity, or hypocrisy, or some combination of these three things.

    • 回复: @Sparkon
  331. Gg Mo 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Yes, not confused . Victoria Kagan Nuland , wife of Robert Kagan (faimily that runs ISW and PNAC). I have a strong feeling that the Notorious Blame-shifters of these “think-tanks” are descendants of the Lazar Kaganovich faimily. So it is shameful that the victims of these atrocities look to (and fall for) their persecutors for salvation. Stockholm syndrome ?

  332. @jacques sheete

    ” If TG can educate Americans on foreign policy”

    Okay I understand how an authority-worshiping leftist and someone as weak-minded as yourself,
    can see themselves as in need of edumacation in many areas, however, myself, and my family and my circle of friends, we do not cherish or place any value upon being educated in any area by politicians whom we consider to be shit-talking grifters anyway.

    I view almost all politicians, Democrats, Republicans, Greens, whatever, to be liars, thieves, and downright dissolute scumbags, however the Democrats are simply the world champs when it comes down to lying, thievery, or doubletalk, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

    AJM “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US amy vet, and pro jazz artisit.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  333. Uh…, Be all that you (hip-hop) can be, and join the Zionized US Army!!???

    Please refer to the catchy new recruitment video-strategy, linked below, apparently aimed at influencing the new ‘Merkin generation to sign-up & “hip hop” to the beat of Israeli war drums.

    https://www.fastcompany.com/90300829/the-u-s-army-hopes-this-video-of-rapping-soldiers-will-help-recruit-gen-z

  334. @AnonFromTN

    You brilliantly illustrate the fact that when people run out of arguments, they resort to personal insults.

    错误。

    brilliantly illustrate the fact that when jokers run out of arguments, they resort to personal insults.

    PS:

    I stop there

    Good, at least yer smart enough to know when to quit. If you had a brain you would have never started it. You mouthy dolts make me sick. Now get outta my face, troll!

    • 巨魔: AnonFromTN
  335. @Der ex-Deutsche

    谢谢。

    I know about it, but can’t say I’m conversant on that particular subject. What I do know makes me sick to the stomach. It’s so maddening that I simply cannot force myself to read about the details.

  336. @Authenticjazzman

    I view almost all politicians, Democrats, Republicans, Greens, whatever, to be liars, thieves, and downright dissolute scumbags…

    Hey, we agree on something! Since we both obviously have weak minds, and I’ve jumped outta planes too, (173rd) do you think I could qualify for MENSA, or should I learn to toot my own horn at every opportunity first?

    Now since yer a MENSAn, I shouldn’t have to tell you where to put it.

    Toot toot! Ta ta!!

    PS: Did you know that the term “jazz artist” is a contradiction in terms, an oxymoron?

    • 同意: L.K
    • 回复: @L.K
    , @Aurthenticjazzman
  337. A degree beyond the tainted “Info Wars” battle common to Alex Jones, and as several here are dedicated “Real Jew News” information war warriors, please consider reading Eric Margolis, linked below, on what he called a Warsaw, Poland-based “hate fest.”

    https://ericmargolis.com/2019/02/hate-fest-in-warsaw/

  338. Sparkon 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Well, my warning about Wiki stands: many entries there are biased. The bias is not random.

    One grows weary of hearing this foghorn. Bias is everywhere, not just in Wikipedia.

    In any event, here’s another source:

    The view of reality that the party maintained was that the mass of the peasantry were now in favour of collectivization, that they were fighting for it against the kulak, and that when it was introduced it would result in a great increase in agricultural production. The realities contradicted all these assumptions. In fact, the collectivization operation was supervised by activists from the cities (the “Twenty-Five Thousanders”) and OGPU men, and it was economically disastrous.

    In mid-1929 only about 5 million peasants had been on collective farms. On March 1, 1930, this had risen to more than 70 million. Peasant resistance took various forms, including a number of local insurrections, but its main component was the mass slaughter of farm animals to prevent their being taken by the kolkhoz. Official figures given in 1934 showed a loss of 26.6 million head of cattle (42.6 percent of the country’s total) and 63.4 million sheep (65.1 percent of the total), and this is probably an understatement of the facts.

    — Britannica 2001

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  339. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Sparkon

    There are things on which everyone agrees, like times table.

    No doubt, the “collectivization” was a huge economic disaster. In fact, it took decades to restore the numbers of cattle, and it took de-collectivization to restore grain production.

    The goal of collectivization was not to increase production, but to simplify robbing peasants. That’s why Germans in Nazi-occupied parts of the USSR preserved “collective farms”.

    I strongly suspect that if Bolsheviks knew the extent of the damage to production their bone-headed collectivization did, they’d think of some other way of robbery.

  340. Is the US ready for yet another radicalized kneejerk leftist minority from a uniquely abnormal greenhouse called Hawaii?

    骗我,是你可耻; 愚弄我两次,对我感到羞耻。

    • 回复: @Rurik
  341. RobinG 说:
    @Fatima Manoubia

    How did you translate to English? It reads well. (Or was there already a translation? You only linked to the Spanish.) [Holodomor.]

  342. Rurik 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Holodomor hoax was and still is used by propaganda as one of the “horrors of communism”.

    I don’t have enough time to post much, and am behind on my replies, but I try to lurk when I can, and was compelled to respond to this exchange between Jacque and yourself.

    (Which is as much to Jacques as it is to yourself).

    From what I’ve glimmered here for a while now, is that AnonTN is a valuable contributor to this site, and has many worthwhile perspectives and insights.

    然而..

    It does seem clear to me that AnonTN harbors an obvious and visceral antipathy for Ukrainians, both past, and present. And a curious sympathy for the Soviet Union.

    I suspect this colors his (yours Sir ; ) view of things like the Holodomor and the current hostilities between Ukraine and Russia, (which I more or less agree with him [you] about).

    The Holodomore (genocidal campaign to starve to death the best and most productive, able and yes, “industrious” white Christian farmers under the psychopathically genocidal (((Bolshevik regime))) ~ (因为 they were capable and hardy and strong and independent White Christians) – was very real indeed. Even Walter Duranty admitted as much, when he thought no one was paying attention.

    Here, a typical Jewish supremacist lard arse demands that Ukraine never presume to compare their worthless goyim cattle, slaughtered kosher style, to the only people whose lives matter.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
    , @AnonFromTN
  343. @RobinG

    The translation is mine, Robin, I took the trouble to do it, glad it reads well.
    I link to the Spanish site, since I like always providing the original source, not only to award the merit to whom is due, but also in case somebody interested would like to dive is such ammount of good material. Their sources are always political scientists, national archives, from the Soviet Union and other countries, and so on.

    You see, that site is very good, they were doing quite good sober research there, now, like some others so good out there who were doing similar work in the same line, frozen. ….a pity, since there is almost nobody doing this kind of thing right now.

    I hope you enjoy a job well done, eventhough you have opposite views.

    BTW, Robin, one thing which intrigues me, you who seem to be in first name terms with P.Giraldi, why do you think he allows these hooligans derailing the threads in such a way and wasting this way the conversation?

    • 回复: @RobinG
  344. Rurik 说:
    @Monotonous Languor

    Is the US ready for yet another radicalized kneejerk leftist minority from a uniquely abnormal greenhouse called Hawaii?

    骗我,是你可耻; 愚弄我两次,对我感到羞耻。

    If Trump proves to be as rotten and worthless as Dubya and Obama were, (something he increasingly appears to be) then we the electorate will have no choice but to vote for another lying POS politician who at least tells us that '这 time, (the lying POS politician) actually does want peace.

    Sure, we may all be jaded by now, and know every lying scumbag politician is going to serve the Fiend, at the expense of Americans and humanity in general, but we at least have to vote against the most recent lying scumbag politician, for treasonously dragging us all into more ‘nation building’ and war crimes and sniveling fealty to all things zio.

    By voting against the wars and war crimes and treason, at least ‘we the people’ preserve our own souls intact, even if the politicians damn theirs.

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  345. @RobinG

    Hungary is “real,” has a set of brass balls! Please refer to Guardian news, below.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/feb/13/hungary-tells-uk-jewish-group-to-mind-its-own-business-over-antisemitism

    My maternal grandfather, the late-Stephen Havrilko; came to America from the Austro-Hungarian Empire, settled in Newark, NJ.
    He taught me to fish at Tunkhannock Creek, and together on b&w TV, we watched Emile Griffith kill Benny “Kid” Paret in-the ring, and frequently, the hilarious (Jewish) “Three Stooges” whom my heavily Slavonic-accented grandpa called the “Stogers.” 🤗

    Suppose having such lineage would allow me to telephone/email Hungary and convey my appreciation for their telling predator UK Jews to mind their own iffen- business?

  346. Of course, Soviet authorities commited errors, some huge, who not?, but, without denying any of it pale in comparison with the benefits they brought, in quality and duration of human life, not only for the Soviet people but for the rest of the world, who, as of today, still continue enjoying some of the benefits that were conceeded only because the Soviets were giving them to their citizens, and which were grudgingly conceeded by the Western capitalists in order to avoid the at that time in the making enchained socialist revolutions throughout Europe and beyond.

    The fact that we have such life span now we must thank to no other than to the Soviets, since it is because of the regulations on labour shifts, spare time and labour life, health universal care, and universal promotion of sports that we reach today such old ages still healthy. But, already, we do not even arrive in such healthy conditions the Soviets were doing, since we have now added a stressful factor on perennial insecurity of all aspects of life coming out of the last years of neoliberal austerity measures trying to get rid of what remains of what one day was called the welfare state, which have not but Soviet origin.

    The great genocides of which nobody talks are all those result of the aplication of the shock doctrines of capitalism.
    One day, I hope, someone, a serious seasoned researcher, will make a serious account….

    • 巨魔: apollonian
  347. @Rurik

    那不是东西吗?

    “There can be one and only one holocaust; there shall be no other holocausts before me.”

    I’m glad the topic came up; it caused the moron, smart mouth crowd to show their true colors, as always.

    Never forget ‘Wonnerful’ Wally Duranty, the Poolitzer Prizer!

  348. RobinG 说:
    @Fatima Manoubia

    It’s the free speech policy of Ron Unz to which Phil adheres. It’s pretty hard to get censored here, but recently Cloak & Dagger and I managed, lol.

    • 回复: @apollonian
  349. @Rurik

    Rurik said: “If Trump proves to be as rotten and worthless as Dubya and Obama were, (something he increasingly appears to be)…,’

    Hey, Brothers Rurik & Jacques Sheete!

    Re; above quote, am bearing Real “Hooligan” Jew Paul Krugman/Maven Sam Shama Good News!🤗

    Regarding ZUS national debt status under MAGA-Trump, it’s hit the $22 trillion mark! Yippee! Happy reckless debt days are here again, la-la-la, uh, no real moolah…, and roll out the iffen barrel!

    So All pause now to hail Mnuchin & do worship to the Federal Reserve? ‘Cuz you is just anotha’ iffen 🏧! Please refer to the news, below?

    https://nationalpost.com/news/the-utterly-unbelievable-scale-of-u-s-debt-right-now

    • 回复: @Rurik
  350. @RobinG

    Censorship, Suppression, And Subversion: The Real Purpose And Effect Of Unz Review Psy-Ops

    “It’s the free speech policy of Ron Unz to which Phil adheres. It’s pretty hard to get censored here, but recently Cloak & Dagger and I managed, lol.”

    Robin: I never realized before just what a fool thou really are, made manifest by above quote fm thou.

    It’s NOT NOT NOT NOT “free speech policy” of Unz, not in the slightest–thou totally mis-judges the real psychologic operation (“psy-ops”) Unz is running. MOST, probably at least 4 out of 5 of my entries are routinely CENSORED/deleted.

    Unz will occasionally publish one of my postings, for his own purposes, then if and when that posting gets responses fm the Jew-lovers and -defenders (who are legion, thou will notice), as on the recent Jonathan Cook column on “Liberal Elite…,” Unz CENSORS/deletes any of my rejoinders thereto–there were at least 5 or 6 on that page. Only thing I was allowed to do was to append a “disagree” notation after the scum Unz CENSORSHIP.

    Unz himself says he puts/applies “light hand of moderation”?–this is an absolute, deliberate, bald-faced lie by Unz, the typical Jew liar. For Unz CENSORS assiduously, scrupulously, intensively, ferociously (thou are sooooo utterly deceived and deluded, RobinG)–his purpose being to manage and manipulate the dialectic/discussion and pushing and applying his own “spin,” this “spin” ALWAYS Jew-friendly, Jew-serving.

    Observe Unz’s basic “gimmick” which is he publishes all the ostensive anti-Semitic journalism and articles/columns–ask thyself, could anyone else really do this without being immediately and heavily assaulted and vilified as by ADL and SPLC?–but Unz gets by EASILY, doesn’t he? And then look at what Unz does w. the comments pages for these articles, HEAVILY censored, the commentary overwhelmingly weighted in favor of Jews w. the usual platitudes to effect “not all Jews are monsters,” “we can’t judge all Jews by the ‘few’ bad ones,” etc.

    What a racket Unz has and now exploits!–practically monopolizing thus the “anti-Semitic” journalism–look around: does ANYONE else even come close to this publication and collection of the “anti-Semitic” journalism?–the only one would probably be Kevin Macdonald, a total PHONY, who legitimizes Israeli terror-state and BEGS to accommodate such terror-state in exchange for getting those Jew murderers and criminals to endorsing “white nationalists”–which has actually happened, in a way, in the form of Trump.

    So what do thou get fm “Unz Review”?–well, thou get the journalism and the articles, BUT then there are the TOTALLY censored and Jew-friendly, Jew-serving comments pages, where Unz concentrates his energies, as one sees, Unz operating fm relatively early in morn to late at night, these pages HEAVILY infested w. the typical Jew-friendly and outright Jew TROLLS as we see fm the earlier Giraldi article on “Being Marco Rubio.”

    Thou may think and imagine Unz allows anti-Jew comments, but these are always mere snide remarks and the usual throw-away platitudes, never fully-developed thoughts and essays about SERIOUS anti-Semitism, as I present, for example, Unz’s censorship ALWAYS aimed to practical effect that there are at least SOME “good” Jews (like Unz himself, ho ho ho ho), and one can’t judge them all by the few obnoxious ones.

    So the overall effect of Unz Review Journalism is the SUBVERSION of real, serious anti-Semitism–that’s the obvious bottom-line–no less than Macdonald’s moronic work and results, sucking-up to Israeli terror-state, Unz alternatively sucking-up to Jews and actually having their (Israeli) trolls coming on and pushing their lies, which Israel-partisanship Unz otherwise pretends to disapproving.

    For there is a real, genuine, serious case to be made for outright anti-Semitism–and this Unz will not allow to be exposited, always working to marginalize, discount, and even ridicule such substantial anti-semitic material–THIS IS UNZ’S REAL PURPOSE AND EFFECT, essence of his psy-ops, and thus thou sees his intensive, pervasive, and thoroughgoing CENSORSHIP and suppression, while pretending otherwise, deliberate and most purposeful, the foremost intention of his work and effort here, doubt not. And this deception by Unz works brilliantly, we see, RobinG, w. typical fools like thou.

    • 哈哈: Ron Unz
    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @Art
  351. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Rurik

    You are making a pretty common mistake of confusing Ukrainians and Ukies. Being half-Ukrainian, I have to defend Ukrainians, who are en mass good, tidy, hard-working people, about half of whom speak beautiful and melodious Ukrainian language, very colorful, with lots of excellent idioms (now, this I know first-hand, as I speak it myself).

    Ukies, on the other hand, are the scum of the Earth, typical examples being Bandera followers, volunteers of Waffen SS division Galichina, and other disgusting Hitler’s servants, like Shukhevych and the rest of UPA. Ukies are guilty of the Lvov pogrom in 1941 and Volhynia massacre in 1943-44, as well as other mass murders of civilians, including women and children, committed on the territories of present-day Ukraine, Belarus, and Slovakia. The pictures of their atrocities are all over the Internet (little children nailed to trees, pregnant women with their bellies cut open, etc.), as they didn’t even have enough human decency to be ashamed of their crimes, and/or wits enough not to take photographs of themselves in the middle of the crime scene. The fact that Zio-controlled US elites put Ukies in power in Ukraine in 2014 is the greatest crime against Ukrainians ever committed.

    The hunger in the whole Southern USSR in 1932-33 was real, and Soviet government of the time was guilty of not helping the people in all those areas (Kazakhstan, Volga region, Southern Russia, Ukraine). But allegedly anti-Ukrainian Holodomor is a myth promoted by Ukies and their puppet-masters.

    • 回复: @Rurik
  352. Rurik 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Ukrainians and Ukies. Being half-Ukrainian, I have to defend Ukrainians, who are en mass good, tidy, hard-working people, about half of whom speak beautiful and melodious Ukrainian language, very colorful, with lots of excellent idioms (now, this I know first-hand, as I speak it myself).

    Ukies, on the other hand, are the scum of the Earth,

    do you know enough ‘Americana’ to ‘get’ this?

    the point is that your post is ‘telling’

    • 同意: apollonian
    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @jacques sheete
  353. RobinG 说:
    @apollonian

    So why didn’t he censor this (which I could only read half of, but that was bad enough) LOLOL.

    The only possibly “subversive” thing about this site is that the WN’s (and everybody else) get enough rope to hang themselves.

    • 哈哈: apollonian
  354. L.K 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Oops. Meant to hit the LOL button re your reply to that obnoxious jackass, Authenticjazzman.

    Anyway, re politics and politicians: Although I deeply dislike the class in general, paradoxically it has become clear to me that solutions are only possible trough politics.

    Specifically, the US political system is completely corrupt, politicians being largely frontmen for powerful moneyed interest groups.
    Bizarrely, people in the US – and in many other countries as well – seem to think that they can get real change by just electing the “right” person, without firstly reforming the corrupt political system.
    这根本不可能。
    As others have noted upthread, you included i think, truly good cadres just don’t advance very far within such a system, or they are forced to make so many concessions to survive that they become compromised.
    Even such compromised politicians, perhaps a Tulsi or a Rand Paul, hardly ever get picked to run for the presidency.
    As someone else said the first step must be to get the money outta politics.
    Campaigns should be based on the platform/ideas and a candidate’s previous record of work done for the common good.

    保重

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  355. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Rurik

    I don’t now about “Americana”, and what my post is “telling”. But I know that Ukrainians and Ukies are very different, thank goodness. Just ask Ukrainians outside of the hotbed of Ukies. Most of them despise Galician “zapadentsi”, “banderas”, “vuikos”, and other words they are calling that trash. You can ask in Trans-Carpathian region, too, they hate Ukie Nazis even more than Eastern Ukrainians or Russians.

    • 回复: @Rurik
  356. L.K 说:
    @Mike P

    嘿迈克,

    Good questions. Points 1, 2 and 3 are all correct.

    4. If 3. is true, was the intentionally exacerbated starvation aimed at peasants (independent farmers/”kulaks”) in general, or at specific ethnic groups (Ukrainians or Germans)? I think this is where opinion diverges most.

    Here I think that there may have been a mix of both, to some degree. Some ethnic groups were viewed with greater distrust than others by the regime and suffered accordingly.
    The Chechens and the Kazakhs, for example, suffered terribly, perhaps when adjusting for population size, more than Ukrainians.
    Anyway, again I’ll quote from Russian historian, Oleg Khlevniuk:

    Repeated incidents of unrest flared up in both Ukraine and the North Caucasus in 1931–1932. A further cause for concern was Ukraine’s border with Poland. Stalin feared that Poland, in its hostility toward the USSR, could exploit the Ukrainian crisis.40 Overall, as Hiroaki Kuromiya points out, Stalin was suspicious of all peasants, but “Ukrainian peasants were doubly suspect both for being peasants and for being Ukrainian.”41

    Thanks for the links, btw, I’ll check it out.

    畅销款式

    • 同意: Mike P
    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  357. @L.K

    L.K., thanks for sharing your insights.

    …it has become clear to me that solutions are only possible trough politics.

    I think I know what you’re saying and I sympathize with the position. For me it’s a “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” scenario. It’s a real conundrum and an old question.

    Plato said,

    “One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors”

    –Plato, The Republic, Book 1

    https://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/modules/Philosophers/Plato/republic_book_one.pdf

    My response is this,

    “One of the penalties 参加 in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors”

    Plato Sheete

    (In other words, you get the same result whether you participate or not.)

    I do not have the answer, but I do know we have a problem.

  358. @Rurik

    …the point is that your post is ‘telling’

    His posts tells me that he’s probably a sot. He makes remarks like the typical belligerent drunk who can’t hold his vodka and imbibes much to much, too often.

    Emboldened by the sauce, they make wild inflammatory comments complete with “profound” goofy bar-room one liners, and think they’re smart. Also, this particular one even claimed “first hand” knowledge of the situation, which he was forced to admit was a 谎言, probably when he sobered up a bit and realized how foolish his claim was.

    Like a typical drunk bully, he gets aggressive, mouths off, preaches, then blames the intended victim for doing what he initiates. If he had a wife he’d probably blame her for his troubles, then try to beat her and the kids, but outweighing him by a factor of 3 or 4, one cuff upside the head from her, and he’d STFU til next time.

    Particularly telling is the fact that he avoided many of my questions such as what he thought about the 6 million.(He’d just finished some simple-minded, preachy, diatribe of “wisdom” about lies and exaggerations or something.)

    The nail in his coffin is the support he gets from Ilyana and Robin. I’ve written them all off as smug, mouthy, neo-Walter Duranty wannabes not to be taken seriously.

    • 同意: apollonian
    • 回复: @Rurik
  359. @L.K

    Stalin was suspicious of all peasants…

    I believe that he was particularly suspicious of them although, given his behavior, he probably had every reason to be suspicious of everyone, something like that paranoia that we see in the Chosen Eternal Victims today such as the one telling Ukrainians to downplay their own holocaust, Foxman in the vids above.

    Like Foxman, the Stalin sympathizers here are desperate to downplay his crimes in the Ukraine. In their twisted minds, they think we’re blaming Ukrainians for the disaster, and wildly claim that we’re suckers for believing “Deep State” lies!!!

    Such risible distortions are both amusing as well as boggling.

    • 回复: @Rurik
  360. Rurik 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Just ask Ukrainians outside of the hotbed of Ukies.

    I have. They’re even here at Unz. There’s a Vietnam vet guy who calls himself Unit 472 or something, who is an Ukrainian nationalist and doesn’t seem unhinged over the Ukies, as you suggest.

    Is it just possible that some of the antics of these ‘Ukies’ are in 响应 to hostilities going back to WWII and before, as with the Holodomor, where no doubt some of them lost family members?

    How many grandfathers of these Ukies were Keelhauled at Yalta? For fighting the Soviet fiend that had cruelly murdered their relatives?

    Then when you discover that there are people who downplay the Holodomor, (and their motivations for doing so), should it come as any surprise that some of these Ukrainians become militant?

    As I’ve said repeatedly, I’m no fan of the Ukies, (wannabe Nazis who take their orders from Jewish supremacist oligarchs and grovel to the depraved west to be invited into NATO). They are deluded imbeciles at best, to be honest. But the best way to disarm them and shame them is not to feed into their legitimate grievances, by dismissing the Holodomor as a trifle. The Holodomor was all too real, and a widow into the putrescent soul of the Soviet, Bolshevik, Jewish supremacist Fiend. From Bela Kun, to Lazar Kaganovich, this fiend drenched Eastern Europe and Russia in rivers of Gentile blood, misery and unimaginable suffering. All of which- they are hectored today by modern day Jewish supremacists (and 其他类 ) to downplay as unimportant compared to the ‘suffering’ of their tormentors.

    • 同意: jacques sheete
    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  361. Rurik 说:
    @jacques sheete

    Particularly telling is the fact that he avoided many of my questions

    Oh yes, crickets are the most telling tell of all.

    I always say you can glimmer far more by what people say, than you ever can by their carefully constructed arguments, that when questioned, collapse like the Solomon Brothers building 7 without even the thermite.

    smug, mouthy, neo-Walter Duranty wannabes

    Unz certainly has its share of those!

  362. Rurik 说:
    @jacques sheete

    “Deep State” lies!!!

    that was a doozy!

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  363. Rurik 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ZUS national debt status under MAGA-Trump, it’s hit the $22 trillion mark!

    查克兄弟你好!

    Perhaps it’s a forth dimensional chess move to delegitimize the Federal Reserve Note as the world’s reserve currency. And thereby emasculate the Fiend!

    Or.. perhaps it’s just blind greed and stupidity – which will lead to the same outcome.

    In either case, the only thing that can save the world at this point, is for 东西 to reign in the malevolent evil that is the (((Fed))).

    • 回复: @Art
  364. Art 说:
    @Rurik

    Thirty years of Allan Greenspan at the fed destroyed America’s economic system – he put the Jews in charge of America. That is an obvious truth.

    We must return to the Constitution and have a nation bank — Period!

    Dump the Federal Reserve.

    思考和平-艺术

    ps阿罗哈!

    • 回复: @Rurik
  365. Art 说:
    @apollonian

    This comment is unequivocally, unambiguously, undeniably, unmistakably, unquestionably – disgusting!

    艺术

    • 哈哈: apollonian
  366. @jacques sheete

    ” Did you know that the term “jazz Artist” is a contradiction in Terms, an oxymoron”

    Yeah so now you are coming across with the tired old claim that Jazz is not really art, which again reveals your low mentality, and inability to descern the nature of true art per se’.

    For your undeserved information I studied classical flute, for four years in conservatory, with an excellent “Abschluss”, went through Bach, Mozart, Debussey, etc.

    My main teacher, and a Italian musical Genius, with a glass eye (he left one on the battlefield ww2), he could not understand a word of english yet he loved, strange as it sounds : Country music.

    It’s all about melody and Jazz does not fall short in relation to classical in the area of : Melody, however one must be able to descern the quality of melodic invention, which you are obviously unable to do, in order to appreciate Jazz.

    My Mother, a born Italian noble lady, loved jazz, and Italy is in fact the seat of the best jazz played outside of the US to this day. It was no coincidence that Chet Baker lived there for decades. I, by the way, played in a band with a drummer who had toured Europe with Chet .

    阿杰姆

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  367. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Rurik

    Maybe your recipe is OK for someone far removed from those events. It won’t work for me: my father fought Hitler, was wounded twice and decorated several times; my mother and my aunt hid at a remote farm from occupying Nazis to avoid being sent as slaves to Germany. So, I don’t want to be at peace with Nazis or wonna be Nazis, period. Not to mention that their main grievance is that Hitler lost WWII.

    • 回复: @Rurik
  368. Rurik 说:
    @Art

    We must return to the Constitution and have a nation bank — Period!

    Dump the Federal Reserve.

    Amen to that, Art!

    Aloha and Peace.

  369. Rurik 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    my father fought Hitler,…

    . So, I don’t want to be at peace with Nazis or wonna be Nazis, period. .

    The ‘troubles’ in Ukraine are a complicated witches’ brew of acrimony and grievance and loss.

    Russians were (and sometimes are) perhaps the most conflicted. Russians fought Russians during the Revolution and also during WWII.

    This is the thing for me. I often look at today’s world to make sense of yesterday’s conflicts.

    If a Russian Revolution type of civil war were to happen today in the ZUSA, it’d likely be a consortium of ‘diversity’ led by Jewish supremacists against the Deplorables. (like the Reds vs. the White Russians). If victorious, they’d order that all guns be confiscated, and new laws would suddenly appear. Like Bolshevik Russia, ‘anti-Semitism’ would become a capital crime punishable by death. Deplorables would be dealt with harshly, as they were at Ruby Ridge and Waco. Only on a massive, Kulak-type of scale. There’d be no dearth of diversity volunteers for death squad to carry out the grim orders, and I certainly wouldn’t put mass-starvations past them.

    So all the things that happened in Russia, I could 容易 see happening here, with the same principle motivating agents. Jewish supremacists in charge, and throngs of diversity, full of hatred for ‘racist white Americans’, would be all too eager to ‘put it to’ the racists, but good!

    Katyn forests all over the North American continent.

    In such an America, on whose side would I fight?

    And if such a government ever came to be, with perhaps Tom Steyer as potus, and Corry Booker as vice, and Eric Holder brushed off and installed again as AG, with men like Levoy Finnicum being gunned down all across the nation, as the new Red ZUS government consolidated its absolute power…

    if someone like me were to sign on with the resistance, and fight against such a government, then how is that any different than the thousands of Cossacks and Russian and Ukrainians and Poles and Estonians and so many others that didn’t fight for Nazi Germany, but rather fought against the Soviet Fiend that had ‘grabbed Russia as if by the hair of the head’, and was turning Russia and beyond onto a giant terrorized ‘killing field’ for any White Russians or others it considered too ‘industrious’?

    All the things that happened to Russia, I could easily imagine happening here, with all the same motivating players. The Jewish supremacists. The hatred consumed ne’er-do-wells. The orc-like goons in it for rapine and rape. They’d all be extremely well-represented today in the ZUS just as they were in Russia.

    So my sympathies are colored by looking at the world I see today, and extrapolating certain truths as to what likely happened in history. (since obviously all we’re told is basically lies)

    I’m not saying there weren’t good and decent Russians who fought Germans, there were of course. Just as there were good and decent Ukrainians who fought on both sides, depending on what kinds of treatment they’d gotten from the Soviets vs. the Nazis.

    What a terrible vice to be put in. Genocidal, Jewish supremacist Soviet goons on one side, and arrogant Nazis on the other. Whose uniform do you don?

    But that could conceivably happen here, with the same sort of people aligning in the same sort of ways.

    Not to mention that their main grievance is that Hitler lost WWII

    I doubt that. I don’t suspect that the Banderites or Ukros love German Nazis. What I suspect is that they agreed with the Nazis that the Soviet Fiend had to be crushed, and lament that it wasn’t.

    But at the end of the day, I suspect that the Banderites (and Ukros and Baltic nationalists, etc..) would like to have a country of their 拥有, with pride in their respective histories and honoring their grandfathers who fought (regardless on which side), in that horrible, zio-contrived mass-fratricide.

  370. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Rurik

    Let me just say a few things.

    One, a lot of former White commanders who emigrated to various European countries flatly refused to serve Nazi Germany, some stating point-blank that they won’t fight against their own country. That test clearly separated people from scum.

    Two, back in Soviet times I was for letting Baltics go and have their own countries. They seemed civilized, brushed their teeth and used anti-perspirant. Now I see that appearances are deceptive: many people in the Baltic states actually demonstrate primeval tribal Hutu-Tutsi-stile mentality. Latvia and Estonia even introduced apartheid, with citizens and non-citizens having vastly different rights. “Democratic” Europe keeps mum about that.

    Three, among those Baltic states only Lithuania has history to speak of, the other two were first created after the 1917 revolution in the Russian Empire. All their cities were built by Germans, and populated by Germans, Poles, and Jews.

    Four, the bulk of Lithuania, including its present-day capital Vilnius, was part of Poland before WWII.
    Five, Ukraine was (and still is) extremely heterogenous, culturally and linguistically. It consists of distinct Galicia-Volhynia area (where practically all Waffen SS volunteers came from), Trans-Carpathian area, Slobozhanschina (Kharkov region), and pretty heterogenous Novorossia (parts captured by the Russian Empire from the Ottoman Empire) from Odessa to Donbass. Western Ukraine was a part of Poland before WWII (Poles still call it Kresy Wschodnie, i.e.,
    Eastern Kresy or Little Poland). Under Polish rule Ukrainians were not even allowed to live in Lvov. Poles called them bydlo (literal translation – cattle). I am not even talking about Crimea, which never was Ukrainian and never will be. It was transferred to Ukraine by Khruschev (without Sevastopol, which remained under direct Moscow rule) in 1954 in violation of even loose Soviet rules of that time. Literary Ukrainian is the language of Poltava region, there are several quite different significantly Polonized or Germanized dialects in the West. Fewer than half of Ukraine residents even speak any version of Ukrainian, practically none in Donbass (I went to school in Lugansk; Ukrainian language and literature were obligatory subjects in the Ukrainian SSR; Ukrainian teacher loved me because I was the only kid in a class of 40+ who could speak proper Ukrainian). In Trans-Carpathian region there are a lot of Romanians, Hungarians, and Rusines, whose languages and cultures are today suppressed by the Ukies. Ukraine joined to Russia by Khmelnitsky constituted about a sixth of its present-day territory. So, who is entitled to have his own country, and how many countries should there be on that territory?

    Finally, here in the US we already live under the domination of those multi-culti, open borders, Zionist-worshipping globohomos, so your scenario is a bit behind the times.

    • 回复: @Rurik
  371. Iris 说:
    @Rurik

    “If a Russian Revolution type of civil war were to happen today in the ZUSA, it’d likely be a consortium of ‘diversity’ led by Jewish supremacists against the Deplorables.”

    This comparison is not correct, because the assumption that the Russian revolution was a conspiracy mostly controlled by Jewish masterminds is itself incorrect.

    The Russian revolution, like the French revolution before it, came about because the feudalistic political system in place, albeit benevolent in many ways, was not able to evolve quickly enough to meet the socio-economic needs of the poorer part of the population.
    Of course, free-masons and other Talmud-inspired opportunists jumped on the Revolution bandwagon: they always do, they are parasites by nature. But the Russian/French revolutions remains nonetheless genuine mass movement inspired by the need for change.

    In Russia, BOTH the Reds and the Whites were deeply patriotic, both fought for their country during WW1. The same applies to France, where both aristocrats and plebeians united against any external foes in defence of their motherland. (To the day, the French army counts a high rate of officers born to traditional catholic nobility).

    The USA is the complete contrary: it is ruled by an ethnic group which first loyalty fiercely and entirely goes to a foreign country. Further more, they use the American people as vile (in their view) cannon fodder to relentlessly serve the geopolitical objectives of this foreign power.

    So, very respectfully, don’t fool yourself: the USA is nowhere as well loved and served as Russia was in 1917. With sincere regards.

    • 回复: @Sparkon
    , @Rurik
  372. Sparkon 说:
    @Iris

    This comparison is not correct, because the assumption that the Russian revolution was a conspiracy mostly controlled by Jewish masterminds is itself incorrect.
    [...]
    But the Russian/French revolutions remains nonetheless genuine mass movement inspired by the need for change.

    Complete balderdash!

    Lenin and Trotsky were financed by Jews in New York and London, like Jacob Schiff:

    在 3 年 1949 月 XNUMX 日的 纽约日报美国人 专栏作家 Cholly Knickerbocker 引用希夫的孙子约翰的话说,他的祖父为共产主义在俄罗斯的胜利捐赠了大约 20 万美元。

    Earlier in the century, Schiff had arranged loans for the Japanese to buy a powerful naval fleet built mostly in British shipyards that allowed the Japanese to prevail over the Russians in 1905. Schiff was awarded with glorious fruit salad from the Emperor in recognition of his service to the Japanese. Now the plot thickens:

    During the two years of hostilities thousands of Russian soldiers and sailors were taken as prisoners. Sources outside of Russia, which were hostile to the Tsarist regime, paid for the printing of Marxist propaganda and had it delivered to the prison camps. Russian-speaking revolutionaries were trained in New York and sent to distribute the pamphlets among the prisoners and to indoctrinate them into rebellion against their own government. When the war was ended, these officers and enlisted men returned home to become virtual seeds of treason against the Tsar. They were to play a major role a few years later in creating mutiny among the military during the Communist takeover of Russia.

    - 吉柯岛的生物, J Edward Griffin

    The Communist revolution in Russia was anything but a popular uprising. It was engineered and financed by primarily Western financial interests with a hatred for the Tsar.

    • 回复: @jacques sheete
  373. @Rurik

    “Deep State” lies!!!

    that was a doozy!

    It was about as twisted as one could get. The other doozy was claiming authority based on “first hand experience,” aka talking with grammaw, especially when granny probably had no clue about what was going on in the next village at the time. I’ll still be chuckling over that for weeks.

    Notice also how the mere mention of Lyons, Jones and Walter Duranty muzzled the liars real quick like.

    What perplexes me is why the fools seem to think that we believe the Holodomor is a crime committed by Ukrainians, when in fact we’re sympathizing with the Ukrainian victims? That’s utterly inexplicable to me. He even admits that Stalin, the perp of the crimes, was a thug…go figure.

    啧啧。

    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @Rurik
  374. @Aurthenticjazzman

    Country music.

    I’ve been credited with being the bumpkin of unz, and rather resemble that remark, but country “music” is another oxymoron. Gimmee a break, will ya?

    It’s all about melody

    No. It’s all about dissonance and trying to 市场 garbage as gold, pocketing the profits and laughing at the fools who buy it. Same thing goes with so called modern “art.”

    I once knew a woman who claimed to have known Picasso and her apartment was full of obviously original Picassoesque “art” that was to my eye, utter offal and so irritating that I wouldn’t put it on my walls if she gave it to me or even use it on my tush where I’d much prefer a dry corncob any day.

    Now don’t try to tell me that “Seinfeld” and other such crapola is high theater either since all you’ve done is prove that you don’t know JS.

  375. @Sparkon

    The Communist revolution in Russia was anything but a popular uprising.

    True and for the reasons you stated so well.

    It was engineered and financed by primarily Western financial interests with a hatred for the Tsar.

    Hatred for the czar because they couldn’t control him, in a manner similar to what the US is doing in Venezuela today. It was an early example of regime change, and besides, Russia was a real prize having vast natural resources again similar to the Venezuela experience.

    What Iris (bless her heart) seems not to understand is that there were popular complaints for sure, but the 革命 was as you say. In fact, Bolshevism had a lot of popular appeal even (especially?) in the US and many were seduced by it until they belatedly discovered that the movement was really all about advancing the interests of the usual international banksters.

  376. @Rurik

    But that could conceivably happen here, with the same sort of people aligning in the same sort of ways.

    没错。

    In fact, it’s not only conceivable, but predictable and ineveitable . And it already has happened, and always turns out the same way for us dumb ‘Merkin goyim.

    God bless the Russian and the Ukrainian people and all the rest, and may the international banker slave masters their catamites be damned.

    • 回复: @Rurik
  377. RobinG 说:
    @jacques sheete

    What perplexes me is why the fools seem to think that we believe the Holodomor is a crime committed by Ukrainians

    ????? Where do you get that?

  378. wayfarer 说:
    @The Alarmist

    你有一点。

    I’d much rather have some eye-candy in a pink-thong dropping in on me when it’s triple overhead, than some tattooed-out MMA gorilla – any day.

    Of course, getting sucked over the falls, bounced off the bottom, and held down for a minute – has never been my idea of having fun.

    … surf or die.

  379. Rurik 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    One, a lot of former White commanders who emigrated to various European countries flatly refused to serve Nazi Germany, some stating point-blank that they won’t fight against their own country. That test clearly separated people from scum.

    Then why did they emigrate?

    What was wrong with just staying put, and 卫冕 their “own country”?!

    by your metric, America’s most revered Generals and patriots, George Washington and Robert E. Lee… were scum. Because once their “own countries’ had been co-opted by tyrants and fiends, they donned the uniform of war, and said ‘if you want my freedom, come and take it’.

    Unlike the Russian ‘White commanders’ who crept out the back door to safety, Generals Washington and Lee were perfectly willing and eager to slaughter any and all who would presume to enslave them under tyranny. (regretfully, Lee had to resign himself to losing to the tyrants, but such is life). At least he was willing to fight. Just imagine what his legacy would be if he’d had run off to Canada or Mexico to escape the hostilities.

    War makes strange bedfellows. Andrew Jackson courted pirates and savages in his campaign against the Bank of England. When your lands and country and family are being menaced by a fiend, you either hold your nose, and fight with unsavory allies, or you run and hide.

    Baltic states actually demonstrate primeval tribal Hutu-Tutsi-stile mentality. Latvia and Estonia even introduced apartheid, with citizens and non-citizens having vastly different rights

    啊..

    But you conveniently ignore how the Soviets imported gobs of ethnic Russians into the Baltics so as to sow strife and division – the calling cards of the Fiend.

    Is it any wonder today that there is anger and resentment over the conflicting languages and cultures and narratives?

    Let’s try to keep this honest, eh?

    the other two were first created after the 1917 revolution in the Russian Empire. All their cities were built by Germans, and populated by Germans, Poles, and Jews.

    you sound like a Zionist, dismissing the proud history of places like Estonia, whose sagas go back to the Viking days, and who don’t need Russians to tell them how to have a culture, thankyouverymuch. Not.

    So, who is entitled to have his own country, and how many countries should there be on that territory?

    Let the locals decide.

    My solution to the problems that rack the Ukraine, is to see it fractioned, with the Russian ethnics in the East aligning with Russia, and the Ukrainians in the West, aligning with globohomo, since they seem so eager to wallow in rap “music” and Hollywood sewage.

    Finally, here in the US we already live under the domination of those multi-culti, open borders, Zionist-worshipping globohomos, so your scenario is a bit behind the times.

    we still have our guns

    history will count from the day we Yankees are disarmed. On day, look out for Orwell’s most nightmarish horrors to make the gulags look like Sunday picnic.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  380. Rurik 说:
    @Iris

    Whereas it’s sadly true that Czar Nickolas was not up to the challenges, it’s also true that Bolshevism (whatever the assorted duped Russian peasants naively believed – “worker’s paradise” hokum) – was a Jewish supremacist genocidal campaign of terror and rapine.

    It (Bolshevism) was funded straight out of ((NYC’s dank banking houses)), freshly invigorated with the keys to the US Treasury. Woodrow Wilson himself facilitated Trotsky’s trek from N. America to Russia- in order to impose ((Trotsky’s)) vision for vengeance on the Russian people.

    So it’s exactly like today in the ZUSA. A near perfect expression of the nascent days of Soviet horrors in Russia. With Jewish supremacist$ at the helm, controlling all the money and acting as the intellectual vanguard of genocide and slavery.

    With all the trite platitudes about equality and ‘social justice’.

    Rurik ~ the American Cossack

  381. Rurik 说:
    @jacques sheete

    when in fact we’re sympathizing with the Ukrainian victims? That’s utterly inexplicable to me.

    the answer lies therein

  382. Rurik 说:
    @jacques sheete

    And it already has happened

    Not by a long shot Jacques,

    we still have the guns

    here’s a movie characterization of what it’s like when the citizenry are disarmed

    and also, one must consider that most of what we’re told about the Holocaust, was projection.

    Basically, everything they said the Germans did to them, was exactly what they’d like to (and often did do) to the Germans.

    To get a glimpse of their id unleashed, check out Salomon Morel.

    If Bill Maher could express his id on Deplorables, I suspect he’d make Salomon envious of his ‘esprit de corps’ and general gusto.

  383. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Rurik

    White commanders emigrated because otherwise they would be executed by the Reds who won the Civil war. But their refusal to fight side-by-side with foreign invaders against their own country showed that they were patriots, even though they disagreed with the forces that came on top in their country at that time.

    You can’t be serious about Washington or Lee. Washington defended his country (13 North American colonies) from a former colonial power (Britain), whereas Lee defended his country (Southern Confederation) from the North. Neither ever served foreign invaders of their countries, in contrast to the scum like Krasnov, who served a foreign country (Germany) in war against his country (Russia). If you want an analogy (although all analogies have serious faults, as two historic events are virtually never similar in all aspects), both Washington and Lee can be compared to Donbass freedom fighters, as they also opposed external invaders of their homeland.

    Baltic states acquired a great part of their Russian residents because Stalin added Russian-settled territories to them. Yes, he wanted to have the fifth column in every republic in the USSR, but net result after the breakup of the USSR was that their territories ended up being greater than they should have been. Besides, apartheid is apartheid, whatever “justifications” for it one can come up with. It is only possible when a significant fraction of the oppressing nation has primitive tribal mentality.
    You can’t be serious about Estonia if you know at least some of the Viking history. Vikings were Norse people hailing from parts of present-day Sweden and Norway. No Finnish tribe (Finns and Estonians alike) had anything to do with Vikings, except for being conquered by them (partially, like some areas in today’s Russia, Britain, France, etc.)

    Locals in Donbass are doing exactly what you suggest: fighting off external invaders to decide their future for themselves. Hungarians in parts of Trans-Carpathian region are doing the same thing, so far avoiding direct military clash with Ukies.

    As to guns in private hands in the US, it is a ruse designed to fool people into believing they have power. In fact, gun owners use them against ordinary people, never against the oppressing libtards and globohomos. Did you ever consider why this is so?

    • 回复: @Authenticjazzman
    , @Rurik
  384. @AnonFromTN

    ” As to guns in private hands in the US, it is a ruse designed to fool people into believing they have power”

    So the solution to this conumdrum is to take the guns away from the people so they can then experience true power , as not owning guns is the expression of true power, is this what you are saying?

    阿杰姆

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  385. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Of course not. What I am saying is that guns per se are not power, only an illusion. Power requires guns PLUS organization, the organization being the key: globohomos rule us rarely using guns, due to their superior organization and funding.

  386. Iris 说:

    Very interesting RT “Crosstalk” show on Mrs Tulsi Gabbard as peace candidate, featuring Mr Giraldi:

    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @Art
  387. RobinG 说:
    @Iris

    Yes, and also Thomas Palley (shown) who made a very strong case why, win or lose, Tulsi is the most important candidate in the race.

  388. @Tulip

    She just was on The View and she brushed off the hideous ignoramus Meghan McCain like a piece of lint. I think Tulsi may surprise some people.

  389. Art 说:
    @Iris

    Iris — thanks for the video that talks about Gabbard.

    If Tulsi can get in the Dem debates – she can change the character of the the whole 2020 election. Many people are ready for no more wars – period. She is so different from the others – she shines.

    思考和平-艺术

    阿罗哈!

  390. RobinG 说:
    @Art

    嘿,艺术,

    To get in the debates, she needs 65,ooo people to contribute to her campaign. It can be as little as $1. It’s individual contributors that counts. Spread it around. (And how about that Andrew Yang, too.)

    How to get lesser known candidates into the debates

  391. Rurik 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Krasnov, who served a foreign country (Germany) in war against his country (Russia).

    Hi did not fight against Russia.

    He fought against the Russian people’s most murderous enemy; the Soviet fiend.

    If a tyrant comes to power and tries to enslave your people, killing the tyrant and his goons is not the same as going to war against your country or your people. Just the opposite in fact.

    If I were a young Polish lad, whose father and uncles were butchered at the edge of a ditch at Katyn, by Soviet fiends and their goons, and had to make a choice between aligning with the German army that had just liberated my town, or aligning with the fiends who had murdered my family, I suspect that I’d chose the Nazis over the fiends.

    Not because as a Pole, I liked Nazis or even Germans. Hardly. But because I simply didn’t have a choice. It was either fight with the Germans, or run and cower in a closet and cry to mommy.

    Better to fight and kill, even if it meant just killing one of the murderous orcs responsible for killing my father.

    that their territories ended up being greater than they should have been.

    I really don’t quite get the hatred Russian have for their neighbors. It is the Russians in Estonia, who you admit, are there as a “fifth column” (enemy inside the gates). Is it any wonder there is hostility?

    As to guns in private hands in the US, it is a ruse designed to fool people into believing they have power. In fact, gun owners use them against ordinary people, never against the oppressing libtards and globohomos. Did you ever consider why this is so?

    these are men with guns ready to use them against Globohomo

    if it weren’t for men (and women) with guns, wiling to use them, the American people would become Palestinians over night.

    If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand anything.

  392. @Art

    “She is so different from the others – she shines.”
    I respectfully disagree with Art and Phil Giraldi. Tulsi Gabbard is a Pied Piper. How many war Presidents in the past have campaigned as non-interventionists and have caused millions of deaths due to their obligations to the psychotic elite?

    I cannot stress enough how extremely dangerous the CFR entity is. Gabbard has been a member for several years and is definitely aware of its influence. The “Council” fulfills Mussolini’s definition of Fascism (a.k.a. Corporatism). It is the hub in the merger of state and corporate power.

    For example, Genie Energy Ltd. has a huge interest in the Golan Heights. The following members are on its Board of Directors: William Perry, Dick Cheney, Michael Steinhardt, Larry Summers, Bill Richardson, James Woolsey, and Keith (Rupert) Murdoch. The other common interest they have is they are all members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Another member on Genie’s BOD is….Nathan Rothschild.

    Does one honestly believe that Gabbard will stand against either Genie Energy or any of the financial and media giants, that have corporate officers in the CFR and have promoted war for their collective global interests?

    Let’s not forget that Gabbard has a friend in Sheldon Adelson the one individual with huge political influence on Trump and who wants to literally nuke Iran. Will Tulsi stand against the wishes of Adelson and Netanyahu’s Chabad mob?

    • 回复: @Art
    , @Iris
  393. @Art

    “想和平”

    With her and her party of blue-haired nut-cases in the white house, we wont have time to be thinking about peace, as a torrent of deranged PC activity befalls the entire country.

    Everything, but everything will then be revolving around womens rights, black rights, gay rights, toilet rights, gun confiscation, electoral college removal, tax increases, preventing old white men, other than old white Democrats, from obtaining political office, stacking the supreme court, and the list could go on and on, however, the end result will be nothing but mayhem, bloodshed, and the possible destruction, through your preferred crazies, of the nation, period.

    “Authenticjazzman” “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • 回复: @Art
  394. Art 说:
    @Jon Baptist

    Will Tulsi stand against the wishes of Adelson and Netanyahu’s Chabad mob?

    Sometimes you have to put your toe in the water and take a chance. We have to start our quest for peace somewhere sometime.

    She could not be worse then all the others.

    思考和平-艺术

    阿罗哈

  395. Art 说:
    @Authenticjazzman

    With her and her party of blue-haired nut-cases in the white house, we wont have time to be thinking about peace, as a torrent of deranged PC activity befalls the entire country

    Oh my’ — you great brain has failed you – you have come to a wrong bogus conclusion – Gabbard could never be elected president — the Jews would NEVER ever let that happen – you know this.

    (It must be embarrassing for you – that someone of such meager intellect reminded you of that – sorry.)

    思考和平-艺术

  396. Iris 说:
    @Jon Baptist

    So far, Mrs Gabbard has:

    – Risked her life in a country destroyed by the Zionist World Order and experienced the destruction first hand.
    – Denounced the revocation of the INF treaty by President Trump, this revocation being a funest initiative that brings us closer to WW3.
    – Met and had a constructive dialogue with President Assad, considered by Israel one of its three top arch-enemies.
    – Publicly opposed imperial wars.
    – Denounced the sales of weapons to Saudi Arabia a the Nr 1 sponsor of terrorism, a geopolitical plague of our times.
    – Denounced the West’s double-talk and duplicity with regards to Al Qaeda.
    – Called for campaign finance reforms to end control of the lobbies over the US political system.
    – Called for tougher regulations on the parasitic financial industry.
    – Called for reducing military expenses, hence the power of the MIC.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/444719-tulsi-gabbard-anti-dem-establishment/

    From where I live in Europe, I don’t know of a single Western politician having half of this incredibly courageous and insightful stands, not even one, with the exception of Jeremy Corbyn in the UK.

    If it were so easy to be Mrs Tulsi Gabbard, God bless, there would be more like her.

  397. Ace 说:

    Kamala Harris is not a natural born citizen.

  398. Gg Mo 说:
    @Iris

    Rand/Ron Paul ? From whom Trump stole many talking points, as well as co-opting Rand’s insane Twitter town-hall on debate night . Jan. 14th 2016 (2nd largest audience and largest amount small donations ever (during the debate he was kicked off of)

  399. @Iris

    “Risked her life”

    How do you know that she “Risked her life”, were you there , did you see her risking her life?

    Look you are a German leftist “Besserwisser”, and German leftist “Besserwisser”, always blindly agree with their heros on the left, no matter who they are and what they say or do, even if they lie, wage war and accumulate huge amounts of money.

    For decades the German Besserwisser criticized the US Republicans as puppets of Wall Street, and now since the Democrats have revealed themselves to the actual puppets of Wall Street, the subject is avoided by the German Besserwisser.

    By the way did you as a German “Besserwisser” know that the KKK was started by Democrats, thats a historical fact : the KKK was conceived by the party that the Germans love : The US Democrats.

    Yeah we know : German leftist “Besserwisser” know everything better than anyone else

    1973年以来一直是Authenticjazzman“ Mensa”的资格,经过机师培训的美国陆军兽医,也是专业爵士乐艺术家。

  400. @Iris

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    , @geokat62
    , @RobinG
  401. Gg Mo 说:
    @Jon Baptist

    Yes ! Eva ! Thanks Jon : ) that was fun, I had a strong feeling we were dealing with another two-faced long-game actor.

  402. geokat62 说:
    @Jon Baptist

    Phil asks: Is Tulsi Gabbard for Real?

    Eva Bartlett responds: This is shit.

    America may be ready for a genuine peace candidate, but the gatekeepers will never allow that to happen as long as they’re on watch.

  403. RobinG 说:
    @Jon Baptist

    Thanks Jon. That interview was disheartening. Instead of guts, we get a sucker punch. Good suggestions by Soraya Tebbani, but that requires a warrior, not a waffler. 🙁

    Soraya Tebbani‏ @2flamesburning1 · Feb 20
    Replying to @Yakno121 @EvaKBartlett @sarahabed84

    Citing the OPCW reports would have shut McCain’s mouth as well as asking her why her dad met with known terrorists.. It was easy but you need guts to do so.

    • 回复: @Iris
  404. Iris 说:
    @RobinG

    This interview was reported on RT:
    https://www.rt.com/usa/452095-tulsi-gabbard-the-view-mccain/

    Mrs Gabbard’s critics are being too harsh and not pragmatic.
    She is already being accused of being a Russia stooge and has to choose her battles. Defending the reputation of President Assad is only a minor point: the major issue is the baseless imperial wars destroying entire countries that nobody dares denouncing in public. With regards.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @RobinG
  405. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Iris

    Defending the reputation of President Assad is only a minor point: the major issue is the baseless imperial wars destroying entire countries that nobody dares denouncing in public.

    Aren’t these two sides of the same coin? Neocons and others providing political cover for MIC profiteers first demonize a foreign leader (mostly with false accusations repeated ad nauseam by shameless officials and equally shameless MSM), then use this as a “justification” for another war ostensibly for regime change.

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @RobinG
  406. RobinG 说:
    @Iris

    There’s much more than “Assad’s reputation” at stake. Is she decrying war from one side of her mouth and enabling a mentality for R2P regime change from the other? (Don’t forget how notable anti-imperialism thought leaders demonized Gaddafi prior to Western intervention and destruction of Libya, effectively paralyzing dissent.)

    “Truth” is also at stake. Tulsi blaming Maduro for Venezuelan economic difficulty ignores years of US imposed sanctions and oil market manipulation. Do we need an informed electorate to have a democracy, or not? Her condemnation of Assad came within a week after a BBC producer admitted proof that the Douma “chemical attack” was staged.
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/bbc-producer-says-syria-douma-chemical-attack-footage-was-staged/255152/
    Previously, this same Riam Dalati had attacked anyone who questioned the Douma incident, even though journalists including Robert Fisk, Vanessa Beeley, and Pearson Sharp had been on the scene and found no evidence of any chemical attack.

    That false allegation resulted in US airstrikes on Syria, so this is NOT the moment for Tulsi to flip-flop her narrative. Only a couple of weeks ago she told MSNBC that there is no evidence that Assad used chemical weapons. Why switch from skepticism to certainly, when the evidence is moving in the other direction?

    Also concerning is her enthusiastic support of Israel. The whole Syria gambit is part of the plan for a greater Israel. GENIE ENERGY is a bipartisan rape of Syrian resources.
    艾拉·格林斯坦:贾里德·库什纳在美国介入叙利亚以控制戈兰高地的背后是贾里德·库什纳与以色列的犯罪交易
    https://medium.com/@zanting/ira-greenstein-jared-kushner-s-criminal-deal-with-israel-behind-u-s-873da65223ce

    I’ve been promoting Tulsi and her bill, No Arming Terrorists, for years. Her choice of language was appalling.

  407. Iris 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Didn’t late President Gaddafi accept to pay “reparations” for the Lockerbie and UTA bombings, a crime for which he was completely innocent, so the sanctions on Libya would be lifted?

    Whether the insane Zionists are intent to demonise President Assad is frankly a completely obsolete issue: they have already destroyed Syria anyway.

    Mrs Gabbard is publicly pointing the figure at the core issue: there is no moral or political justification to imperial wars, none but Israel’s and its associates’ secret domination agenda. It takes a lot of courage to open this Pandora box.

  408. RobinG 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    And there’s more. [Is “brutal dictator” the most overused, poorly defined term of the decade?]

    Tulsi Gabbard Interview: Assad Meeting, Torture, Venezuela Coup, Corporate Media Blackout

  409. Anonymous [AKA "Jacob Sabat"] 说:

    Tulsi Gabbard is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
    She is against the BDS Movement.
    She blames 99% of terrorism on Muslims.
    She repeats the lies about Russia.
    She joined Bush’s military while it was committing war crimes.
    She, like Bernie Sanders, has never exposed those who committed election fraud and voter suppression in the primaries.

    Tulsi Gabbard Speaks to Right-Wing Christians United for Israel Conference 2015.

    Don’t be fooled, Tulsi Gabbard is no friend to the left.
    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/comment/2019/1/18/the-pro-palestine-lefts-curious-support-for-tulsi-gabbard

  410. @Anonymous

    ” Don’t be fooled, Tulsi Gabbard is no friend to the left”

    You are the one who is being fooled, as you do not comprehend that as a Democrat she will, at the end of the day, support the Democratic party line and it’s insane politics, period.

    It does not ever matter what a Democrat says if they appear to be contradicting the official party line, as in the end they ALWAYS back the party and it’s socialistic/communistic stance.

    The Democrat party is the party of such lunatics a Mad Maxine, and the guy who warned about tipping over Guam by moving US troops there, there is no hope for those irrational freaks.

    阿杰姆

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  411. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Correction: Maxine isn’t mad, she is just dumb as a brick. Her advanced age dashes any hope that she is gonna become any smarter.

    It would have been nice if only the Democratic party was full of lunatics bought and paid for by the MIC. The problem is that the Republican party is just as full of the same kind of trash (Bolton, Pompeo, if you need examples). In fact, there is only one Republicratic party fully controlled by the Deep State. Dem vs Rep “struggle” is a ruse for the credulous and feeble-minded, a fight of two puppets on the two hands of the same puppet-master.

    • 回复: @Authenticjazzman
  412. @AnonFromTN

    废话

    There are most definitely corrupt grifters amongst the Republicans, however the Democrats are the world champions in every area of unethical action.

    I read a reliable study years ago comparing numerically the scandals of Democrats to the scandals of the Republicans and the Democrats led nine to one.

    And splitting hairs as to whether Mad max is crazy or just stupid is futile as someone as abberated she is should never be elected to any public office, however the bonker Democrats do not give a shit, as long as she brings in votes to the party.

    阿杰姆

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  413. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Authenticjazzman

    she should never be elected to any public office

    I agree with that 100%. Maxine is clinically stupid and pathetically ignorant, she does not know the difference between Korea and Crimea, which even congressional crowd not known for its smarts knows.

    I disagree about Reps being any better than Dems, though, in terms of both smarts and honesty. If Reps were any smarter, they would have never nominated halfwit Bush Jr, who is at the same level as Maxine, or Sarah Palin, who can compete with Maxine not only in stupidity, but also in ignorance. As to honesty, how come Bush’s and Trump’s tax cuts brought ~90% benefits to the richest 1% and maybe 10% to the rest of us? How come Reps along with Dems always enthusiastically approve obscene “defense” budgets, a well-known feeding trough for the most corrupt MIC profiteers?

    Self-described Rep and Dem politicians are equally dishonest, venal, and generally disgusting. No wonder Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama all committed numerous war crimes and enriched themselves to about the same extent.

  414. Iris 说:

    ” halfwit Bush Jr, who is at the same level as Maxine”

    Indeed. Talking of geography, Bush Jr is the one who famously confused, in public, Austria with Australia (and APEC with OPEC):

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-09-08/bush-backs-austrian-troops-at-opec/663606

    • 回复: @Authenticjazzman
  415. @Iris

    Okay and your hero BO stated in a campaign speach that he had been to all 57 US states, and while in Austria he said that he doesn’t speak : Austrian

    阿杰姆

    PS : Austrians speak German, and there are 50 states.

  416. Anonymous [AKA "sdsp"] 说:
    @renfro

    “she argued against inserting a ‘human rights’ clause in the US India agreement…..even after Modi directed attacks on Muslims in India. She said keeping good relations with India was more important. I don’t call that very principled. I would like to hear her explain that.”

    Adding a human rights clause to the US India agreement, just before the Indian elections, was nothing but a ploy to influence the outcomes of a foreign election. Tulsi was right to oppose it.

    Hindus and Muslims have a long-standing history of conflict, and clashes between them have been occurring long before Modi. The claim that he “directed attacks on Muslims” is completely false, and he has been exonerated by the Indian Supreme Court of any such claims.

  417. Anonymous [AKA "DavidBright"] 说:

    Tulsi Gabbard was born in American Samoa. Her family moved to Hawaii when Tulsi was two years old.
    https://www.tulsi2020.com/about

  418. Anastasia 说:

    She is so eminently reasonable as well as courageous I am willing to change my party affiliation just so I can vote for this woman. So clear thinking is she about these wars I would be willing to listen intently on any progressive idea she had

  419. @the grand wazoo

    Tulsi is top shelf. Nothing points more to the meretriciousness of the media Establishment that they would favor a corrupt ho’ like Kamala Harris over a real American heroine Tulsi Gabbard.

  420. @Anonymous

    BDS is not even favored by the Palestinians. It’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My friend Norman Finkelstein has called it a “cult”. The fact that Tulsi voted against it is not a true indicator of what she would do for Palestine if elected. It was a calculated decision on her part. She’s still the real deal.

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