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本网站的常客可以确认,我对打击以色列及其在美国几乎无所不能的大厅一点也不害羞。 把它当作一个给定的。 但即使在重击时,我也试图将我的谩骂建立在我认为的根本问题上:虽然我为巴勒斯坦人感到悲痛,但我作为美国人的角色必须是评估以色列对我自己的国家造成的损害,最近包括 难以忍受的要求 需要更多的美国纳税人的钱来补偿伊朗核协议造成的“损害”。

有鉴于此,我试图在理性和相称的基础上保持我的批评。 虽然我有时建议那些对以色列情有独钟的人应该考虑搬到那里,并且毫不犹豫地将某些国会议员的行为描述为类似于叛国没收和毁坏财产、剥夺公民身份或流放我指认的不法分子。 我会把这些事情留给本杰明·内塔尼亚胡总理的政府,他们非常擅长。

但有时,以色列在美国的朋友的行为实在是太离谱了,以至于他们似乎引发了更具爆炸性的反应,比如请求战略空军司令部在下一次聚集在华盛顿的 AIPAC 时对其进行核攻击。 以色列最近的一些旨在剥夺除以色列支持者以外的任何人享有第一修正案权利的倡议属于似乎需要真正强烈回应的类别。 比如,这到底是怎么回事? 国会和司法机构中有人醒了吗?

上周,马萨诸塞州新贝德福德的一块广告牌被拆除。 广告牌上写着“帮助自由号幸存者——被以色列袭击”。 该广告牌由 Honor Liberty Vets Organization 放置,按照惯例,通过合同安排支付费用,该安排要求广告牌公司在固定时间长度内张贴图片。 它是放置在不同州的众多广告牌之一。

不可避免地,以色列人脉广泛的朋友开始抱怨。 一位犹太商人威胁要在别处开展业务,因此广告公司提前两周将广告牌移走。 该公司涉及 Outfront Media Inc.,其首席执行官是 Jeremy Male,显然没有试图为其违约辩护。

USS Liberty 退伍军人协会主席 Ernie Gallo 写信给马累先生:

“先生。 男性,美国海军自由号正在执行参谋长联席会议指示的任务。 该任务导致 34 和 174 人被谋杀,其中一些人伤势严重,以至于他们在几年内死亡,还有一些人今天需要手术才能继续工作。 以色列的袭击是在公海上企图谋杀 294 名美国人,LBJ 给了他们一张免费通行证,以便在 1968 年总统选举中对美国犹太社区有好处。 然而,军方意识到这并非偶然,自由号成为单次交战中装饰最多的海军舰艇。 考虑到后者,我向除美国犹太战争退伍军人以外的退伍军人团体进行演讲。 随着你最近承受的压力,你开始明白了吗? 先生你的脊梁在哪里?

“我出版了一本书,书名为《自由不公正——美国偏执的幸存者记述》。 我积累了这样的故事,传奇还在继续,所以我正在为我的下一本书再次收集它们。 我可以向你保证,你拆除合同自由广告牌的行动将在下一本书中。 当犹太人的仇恨可能导致像您这样的公司违反书面合同时,上帝会帮助这个国家。 我们为所有信条的美国海军退伍军人感到非常自豪。”

厄尼太客气了。 自由广告牌表明,第一修正案保障美国的言论自由受到你有多少钱以及你可以购买多少腐败商人、记者、政治家和法官的限制。 最离谱的反穆斯林胡说八道可能是 张贴在任何地方 由卑鄙的帕梅拉·盖勒(Pamela Geller)撰写,但只要尝试对以色列说一些负面的话,您就会感受到完全被征服的美国企业的愤怒。

关于自由号及其船员,从第一天起就精心策划掩盖了袭击事件。 林登约翰逊和国防部长罗伯特麦克纳马拉命令被派往自由号援助的战斗机返回他们的航母,据报道约翰逊说他不在乎这艘船是否沉没,他不会让盟友难堪。 愿他们在地狱中燃烧,他们应该加入所谓的“犹太美国战争老兵”,他们宽恕杀害美国军人的行为,因为这是代表以色列所做的。

更多的? 我的朋友兼同事艾莉森·威尔最近在加州核桃溪的图书馆里演讲。 “核桃溪警察局提前给艾莉森打电话,担心在讲座前几周网上发布的仇恨攻击煽动人们破坏谈话……正如预期的那样,这些以色列游击队随后实施了他们的计划,试图破坏活动。”

艾莉森描述了所发生的事情:“一小群‘与我们站在一起’的人在图书馆外面张贴了标语,并在里面散发了反对艾莉森的传单。 大约五六名抗议者随后坐在艾莉森正前方的前排,而其他人则拿着他们的标语站在后面。 在艾莉森的演讲中,西南大学的人们不时地大喊反对,然后一些观众厌倦了他们的行为,对他们大喊停止。 有一次,西南大学的人设法把事情搞得如此严重,以至于艾莉森一时间无法继续说话,但最后她只是直接对着麦克风大声说话并能够继续。 尽管 SWU 的人最终变得如此具有破坏性,以至于有些人最终被警察带走了,但艾莉森还是能够给出完整的介绍。 在其中一名破坏者——一位名叫海伦·洛文斯坦 (Helen Loewenstein) 的著名以色列游击队员被撤职并在房间外使用了淫秽的绰号后,洛文斯坦袭击了一名正在用 iPad 录制她的行为的观众。 由于这次袭击是在几名警察面前发生的,警察戴上手铐带走了洛文斯坦。 这一切都在视频中。”

不幸的是,自由幸存者和艾莉森威尔的经历太普遍了。 寻求公开反对以色列对美国所做的事情的团体和个人被剥夺了表达自己想法的空间,并且面临资金充足的反对派,这些反对派有时倾向于使用暴力来支持其事业的“正义”。 最近的发展 在加州大学系统中,试图继续将针对以色列的批评贴上反犹太仇恨言论的标签,威胁要扼杀全国大学中对以色列-巴勒斯坦的所有讨论。 这 越来越多 禁止和平抵制、撤资和制裁 (BDS) 运动的州法律,因为反犹太主义是对言论自由的直接攻击,不久之后此类立法就会出现在联邦层面,与欧洲的贸易协定已经成为 有条件 欧洲接受以色列占领巴勒斯坦西岸。 希拉里克林顿有 明确承诺 竭尽全力反对BDS。

为什么我们反对以色列及其代表的大部分内容? 因为它是一个可恨的地方,因为它越来越多地让美国参与其可怕的政策。 最近的第一人称 传记 在讲述伊拉克审讯员埃里克·费尔的经历时,“例如,描述了第 82 空降师使用一种被称为‘巴勒斯坦椅’的残酷装置。 审讯者说 以色列军方在联合训练演习中教他们如何使用它. 坐在特制的椅子上,一名被拘留者向前倾斜,头顶在胸前,双手用拉链绑在腿底部附近。 该装置将被拘留者的所有体重都压在他的大腿上。 Fair 和一位朋友亲自尝试了一下:“也许它没有我们想象的那么糟糕。 我们尝试不同的姿势,并告诉彼此什么是最痛的。 我们同意将您的手固定在椅子的最低部分会给我们的腿带来最大的压力。 小腿和股四头肌的灼热感开始演变为腘绳肌和下背部的撕裂感。 你出汗,你颤抖,你无法呼吸。 这是一种剧烈而可怕的疼痛。 这是酷刑。

“一旦你的腿发软,费尔写道,‘你基本上就开始窒息了。 他们说每个人都在椅子上摔倒了。” 费卢杰市的一位市长受到了椅子的影响,造成了毁灭性的影响。 费尔观察了这种审讯,但并没有试图阻止它:“这是一种罪过。 我一看到就知道了。 不会为它赎罪。'”

我记得,以色列顾问曾在阿布格莱布,人们可能还会注意到,他们是 目前正在培训 美国警察部队在一项由联邦政府资助的大型项目中分享他们的“技术”。 本杰明·内塔尼亚胡(Benjamin Netanyahu)最近形容以色列拥有“世界上最道德的军队”,因为一名士兵射中了一名受伤无助的巴勒斯坦人的头部。

驱使许多以色列人的仇恨显然在出生之前就开始了。 犹太准妈妈可以要求 无阿拉伯人病房. 一名以色列议会议员的妻子解释说,她“不希望她的新生犹太婴儿被非犹太人的手触摸”。 这位议员“不甘示弱,表示他不希望他的新生婴儿与一名阿拉伯婴儿在同一个房间里,后者几年后会试图杀死他的孩子。”

如果美国人接受对以色列的朋友应该有一个言论自由的标准,而对于那些批评它的人应该有另一个标准,那么我们不妨将我们民主的剩余部分抛诸脑后。 以色列的朋友们享有的财富和特权也应该带来一种责任感,但当话题是以色列时,许多人很难接受所有公民都应该享有同样的权利。 当那些直接受到以色列伤害的人,包括自由幸存者,被剥夺他们的权利,或者当暴徒试图破坏公共图书馆的会议时,如果可以另辟蹊径,那就腐败并削弱了自由所有美国人都应该享受。

 
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  1. 如果你需要审查批评,你显然有什么要隐瞒的。 以色列有很多事情要隐藏。 这就是为什么他们一有机会就打出反犹太主义牌,以摆脱他们的战争罪和违反国际法的罪行,这些罪行是每个其他国家都必须遵守的,当然,The Chosen™ 除外。

    任何人都不应该受到批评或被谈论。 审查言论只会让事情变得更糟,因为当它成为禁忌时,更多的人想要这样做,否定了最初想要的效果。

    These Jews and American politicians (as well as Jews with dual American/Israeli citizenship) are attempting to erode our freedoms slowly so that we won’t even notice the transition.

    成为言论自由和第一修正案的敌人就是成为这个国家的叛徒。

  2. chris 说:

    欢迎来到'Pax'-Israeliana!

    Which bears great similarity to the attacks on truth practiced in the Soviet Union; and not just coincidentally so, since many of that system’s enforcers and proponents share the same ethnicity.

    • 回复: @Santoculto
    , @Blake
  3. 几周前,以色列国防部长 Moshe Ya'alon 在华盛顿特区与美国国防部长 Ashton Carter 和其他人讨论签署一项新的、为期 10 年的谅解备忘录 (MOU),关于美以在国防和情报事务上的合作,美国承诺向以色列提供财政、军事和政治支持,以帮助以色列“保持其军事优势”。

    Ya’alon spoke at the Woodrow Wilson Center, a US taxpayer-funded organization currently headed by Jane Harman. Ya’alon was introduced by Joseph P Gildenhorn, former Chair and current member of the Board of Trustees of the Wilson Center.

    亚伦·大卫·米勒, 学者 at the Center, interviewed/moderated Ya’alon’s discussion.

    Ya’alon repeated several outright lies, most of them slanders of the Iranian people and state as well as of the Palestinian people and state.

    Pertinent to Phil’s essay about the actions of Israelis and Israeli partisans in the United States to censor the speech of the American people was this exchange between Ya’alon and a member of the audience who identified himself as Eric Rosenman from CAMERA, the Committee for Accuracy on Middle East Reporting in America: http://www.c-span.org/video/?406449-1/israeli-defense-minister-moshe-yaalon-remarks

    [@50 分钟] 问:“Ya'alon 将军,鉴于你多年前提到的巴勒斯坦方面缺乏和解,以及目前在煽动方面对阿克萨问题的操纵,为什么以色列不尽其所能关闭传达信息的机制——巴勒斯坦电视台、报纸; 扰乱社交网络等等?

    A:Ya'alon:首先我们确实很接近,但你知道在信息时代他们可以逃脱,他们可以克服它。 就在上周末,我们关闭了某些媒体工作,所以他们找到了使用另一个卫星频道的方法——法语频道已经关闭,所以他们使用了其他频道。 现在我们处理这个国家关闭它的方式,但甚至没有卫星频道使用互联网,Facebook 等等。 所以关闭它是相当困难的。 我们确实会处理它; 这是另一个战争领域; 我们没有低估它。 但这很有挑战性。

    Ya'alon 早些时候在他的评论中表示“以色列是该地区最稳定的国家”,众所周知,以色列是“中东唯一的民主国家”,其特点是所有民主国家都以集会自由和集会自由为特征。的演讲。

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    PS 几天前,巴勒斯坦正义运动斯坦福大学学生取消了两名巴勒斯坦女性的出场,因为艾莉森·威尔在观众席中(保罗·拉鲁迪,“支持者 白人至上主义者 Alison Weir”):

    Stanford SJP cancels Nakba tour because of Alison Weir’s participation

    “Last night, Mariam Fathalla and Amena Elashkar were scheduled to speak at Stanford University, sponsored by Students for Justice in Palestine. The previous day, I had asked Alison Weir, who has been giving talks on Palestine for 15 years all over the country, to meet with Amena and give her advice on reaching American audiences since this is Amena’s first trip to the U.S. It was an excellent, fruitful meeting.

    I then said it would be valuable if Alison could hear Amena’s presentation to see if she would have any suggestions. Alison is extremely busy but agreed to come down to Stanford with us for that purpose.

    When Alison learned we did not yet have any written materials along to provide the audience, she brought some along with her for us to use and also gave us some of her books that we could sell to help raise money for the tour. We had already discussed that IAK would supply their excellent written materials for the tour.

    We had no idea that Alison would turn out to be an issue, or that some members of the Stanford SJP would object to what Amena might wish to say. We view Alison as an extremely committed and popular antiracist writer, speaker, and activist, and people even follow her work in refugee camps in Lebanon. We know that some groups oppose her and If Americans Knew, but we also think that most do not, and that in any case this should not be an issue in the Nakba Tour. Alison, however, is not not one of the national organizers of the tour, and she was not intended to be one of the speakers or to have any role in the presentation at Stanford. She was simply there as a favor to us, as described above.

    However, some members of the SJP immediately objected to Alison’s presence, perhaps assuming she was going to speak, and also to the presence of her book and the If Americans Knew materials. We immediately explained that Alison was not to be a speaker and was just there to sit in the audience and that we had invited her to come with us. We also agreed to remove the books, but said we were disturbed that they also wished to censor the materials we could make available on our own tour. In all my years of activism, I’ve never heard of such a thing.

    Amena then began discussing the situation with the students, and was extremely upset when they told her that she could not speak truthfully about her feelings and the feelings of the thousands of dispossessed Palestinian refugees living in camps about their situation, about the Nakba, and about whether or not Israel has “the right to exist” that Israel partisans claim. This was not an issue at the two previous talks.

    当很明显他们希望 Amena 审查她出色的演讲时,她拒绝这样做,活动被取消了。

    We think it is extremely important that people hear from Amena and Mariam. They represent millions of Palestinian refugees whose rights and views have been trampled upon and who are often ignored. Thank you for helping us bring their voice to the discussion. It is long past time that they are heard.”

    SJP published a lame-ass version of events that differed from those of Larudee. You may be able to find it online; it’s not likely that Ya’alon or CAMERA have caused pro-Israel propaganda to disappear.

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  4. Kiza 说:

    以色列顾问出现在阿布格莱布,人们可能还会注意到,他们目前正在一项由联邦政府资助的主要项目中培训美国警察部队,分享他们的“技术”。

    很明显,那些用鲜血和财宝扩张以色列的牛将被牛主——以色列先民镇压。 今天是巴勒斯坦人,明天是美国公民。

    • 回复: @Jeff Davis
  5. AC 说:

    使用 SPLC 中的颠覆者作为来源对您的情况没有帮助。 那些人比毫无价值更糟糕。

    • 回复: @vinteuil
  6. 在言论自由的土地上,已经到了必须审查您准备输入的内容或冒被论坛禁止的风险的地步,这在我身上发生过很多次,都是为了指出一些罪行以色列战争罪行或一些针对美国的“狡猾”以色列情报机构。

    虽然我们的国家基础设施由于缺乏资金而崩溃,但我们被告知,每当以色列要求施舍或更多武器时,我们的国会都会全力以赴,将资金和武器投入种族隔离的噩梦。

    Now Israel is rejecting a 20% increase in their Uncle Sam welfare package as being too small?

    把这个故事告诉那些在无休止的 ME 战争中受了重伤并且因为 VA 的钱用完而被列入等待治疗名单的兽医。

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    • 回复: @dahoit
  7. Renoman 说:

    嗯,是的,这是一团糟,但不是系统有缺陷吗? 犹太人只是按照所写的规则玩游戏。 你需要新的规则。

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    , @dahoit
  8. geokat62 说:

    The Liberty billboard demonstrates that First Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech in America is limited by how much money you have and how many corrupt businessmen, journalists, politicians and judges you can buy. The most outrageous anti-Muslim nonsense can be posted anywhere by the despicable Pamela Geller but just try to say something negative about Israel and you will feel the wrath of a totally subjugated corporate America.

    Speaking of free speech, do you recall the scene of Bibi Nut’nYahoo, marching arm in arm with prominent Western leaders, defiantly chanting together with the Paris crowd “Je suis Charlie”? Well, a day later, the French comedian, Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, was arrested for making his “Je suis Charlie Coulibaly” comments.

    虽然帕梅拉·盖拉可以在任何地方张贴她可耻的反穆林广告,查理周刊可以发布有争议的穆罕默德漫画,但发布关于自由号航空母舰的广告可能很快会让你入狱……就像 M'bala M'bala 一样。

    • 同意: Orville H. Larson
  9. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    So let’s see. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was fake, and there were no reported US casualties but it caused a war that lasted 20 years with casualties somewhere between 1M and 3M. The USS Liberty incident was real, resulted in 34 US servicemen killed and 174 injured and the US did nothing! Moreover no-one is allowed to talk about it. When are Americans going to wake up?

    • 回复: @anonymouse
  10. biz 说:

    It’s really a shame because there is a severe lack of anti-Israel dialog out there. It is getting damn near impossible to find anti-Israel content on the internet or in a college humanities class.

    我的意思是,如果人们不再对维吾尔人、西藏人、东帝汶人、达尔富尔人、特瓦人、雅兹迪人、伊拉克和叙利亚的基督徒、沙特的什叶派和伊朗的琐罗亚斯德教徒不再着迷,我们就可以开始花时间研究 真实 victims of genocide, the Palestinian Arabs.

    • 回复: @schmenz
  11. anonymouse 说:
    @Anonymous

    以色列支付了赔偿金。 显然,他们误认为这艘船是一艘不友好的苏联信息收集船。 这是在他们 1967 年的战争期间。 所以?

  12. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Mr Girardi
    据我所知,当另一位商人让标志公司知道他将停止与他们做生意时,标志被标志公司取下。 这一切都不违反第一修正案。 国家不是诉讼程序的参与者。 去起诉标志公司,这是你的权利。 但是不要再把你的关节炎归咎于以色列了。 在 GA 中,我们非常清楚您反对我们的书和上帝的话语所传播的谎言。

    • 回复: @5371
    , @dahoit
  13. @anonymouse

    They actually claimed it was a World War I vintage Egyptian horse transport and they must have had a hard time seeing the huge American flag it was flying. One Israeli pilot even radioed in that it was an American ship but he was ordered to continue the attack. “Misidentified” my ass. It was a deliberate attack to sink the ship and kill everyone on board.

  14. 有趣的是,实时观察犹太人在二战中据称发生在他们身上的事情后,他们从头到尾重新开始并获得了足够的同情,让自己再次被憎恨。

    根据我所见过的大多数统计数据,犹太人在其历史上曾被驱逐出大约 200 个不同的国家、领土和城邦。 北美会是下一个吗? 这里似乎有一些聪明的犹太海报,所以我问; 你的人民没有从历史中学到什么吗?

    犹太人几乎在世界各地烧毁了桥梁,而且大多不受欢迎。 他们是要挤进以色列,在核幕后向世界挥舞拳头,还是先在南极洲或巴布亚新几内亚碰碰运气,然后再找到让自己在那里也遭人憎恨的方法?

  15. Rehmat 说:

    吉拉尔迪先生——像往常一样很棒的文章。

    美国和以色列双重公民在美国担任“第五纵队”。 现在,正如你所建议的,他们搬到了“世界犹太人唯一安全的天堂”——谁会从美国纳税人那里为好战的犹太复国主义政权榨取 4.5 亿美元的军事援助?

    这些美国叛徒知道许多其他方法来惩罚伊朗不制造核弹。

    On March 3, 2016, the JTA reported that Republican and Democrat lawmakers have introduced a bill that would require linking the claims of Jews from Iran and other Arab countries to be compensated from the \$150 billion (?) worth Iranian assets being released in phases as result of the P5+1 and Iran nuclear agreement last year.

    2 月 XNUMX 日提出的法案要求向国会提交年度报告,解释行政部门为解决流离失所的犹太难民问题采取了哪些措施,详细说明美国在这一努力中提供的任何援助,并就更多可以采取的措施提出建议确保所有难民的利益都被视为任何全面和可信的阿以和平协议的一部分。 该法案由两名犹太议员发起,分别是 DN.Y. 众议员 Jerry Nadler 和佛罗里达州共和党众议员 Ileana Ros-Lehtinen。 它是由两个犹太复国主义犹太黑手党组织——美国犹太人委员会和 B'nai B'rith International 编写的……

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/03/03/lobby-iran-should-pay-jewish-refugees-from-me/

    • 回复: @dahoit
    , @Rabbitnexus
  16. Sherman 说:

    “While I grieve for the Palestinians”

    One of the greatest tragedies for the Palestinians is that so many of their so-called supporters around the world are motivated more by hatred of Jews than any genuine sympathy for the Palestinian plight.

  17. FLgeezer 说:
    @Sherman

    And what sort of feeling should we have toward 那些 对巴勒斯坦人Sherm的困境负责? 更不用说因你们宣传伊拉克战争而丧生或重伤的数千名美国军人的困境。 我想是无条件的爱吧?

  18. schmenz 说:
    @biz

    你认为我们不应该关注的一些团体,如叙利亚和伊拉克基督徒,是以色列政策的受害者。 正是由于他们可怕的政策,基督徒才被消灭。 你认为是谁在纠缠美国去摧毁和摧毁这些国家?

    此外,了解巴勒斯坦阿拉伯人中有许多人是基督徒可能对您有所帮助。 由于以色列人的罪行,无辜的穆斯林和基督徒正在死去。

    • 回复: @biz
    , @Rabbitnexus
  19. vinteuil 说:

    我通读了整篇文章,以寻找令人震惊的副标题“批评以色列成为犯罪”的证据。 我没有找到。

  20. vinteuil 说:
    @AC

    “使用 SPLC 的颠覆者作为来源对你的案子没有帮助。”

    同意。 我不关注 Pamela Geller 并且对她没有意见——但 \$PLC 是在她之后的事实表明她一定在做正确的事情。

    • 回复: @Philip Giraldi
    , @Anonymous
  21. 5371 说:
    @anonymouse

    你真的认为以色列会敢攻击苏联的船只吗?

    • 回复: @Orville H. Larson
  22. alexander 说:
    @Renoman

    从什么时候开始欺骗美国纳税人(数万亿美元)来发起“侵略战争”的最高罪行,按规则行事?

    如果这些规则得到应用,即使是最微不足道的标准,也应该承认它是……一种至高无上的“恐怖主义”行为,……。每个新保守主义者都将被追究责任……尽快。

    This, Renoman, would be playing …..by the “rules”.

    Utilizing “fraud” to initiate “war” is a supreme crime, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

    这正是新保守派、AIPAC 和特别计划办公室对美国所做的……欺骗我们犯下最高的国际罪行……“侵略战争”。

    由于它,美国现在负债超过 19 万亿美元。

    Why is that OK ?

    不是。

    Its a “catastrophe”.

    我们想要我们的钱……现在!

    There are nearly SIXTY MILLION refugees from THEIR “War Fraud” roaming the earth, right now.

    Why is that OK ?

    Its not,….its inconceivable “criminal” …… its “heartbreaking”.

    They need to be held to account, right away.

    This is what every single American should demand of the POTUS….today, and everyday, until justice is served…..

    ......在法律的最大范围内。

  23. Agent76 说:

    Here is a ‘BIG’ picture view in one single link. Please store this in a file and share this with others for a single view in one link.

    十项修正案的详细分析。 我们失去了多少宪法自由? 还剩下多少?

    第一修正案保护言论、宗教、集会和新闻界:国会不得制定关于建立宗教或禁止其自由行使的法律; 或剥夺言论自由或新闻自由; 或人民和平集会和向政府请愿以平复冤情的权利。

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/americans-have-lost-virtually-all-of-our-constitutional-rights.html

  24. 哪个更糟,是似乎一心想要从内部摧毁美国的犹太左翼,还是希望通过让我们屈服于以色列来让我们流血的所谓右翼保守派犹太人?

    I don’t see a reason not to identify, punish and expel such people. It’s either us or them in the end.

    • 回复: @Wally
    , @Marcus
  25. @vinteuil

    做一个谷歌。 有许多消息来源描述了帕梅拉·盖勒 (Pamela Geller) 及其所做的事情。 所以我链接到一个你不喜欢的?

  26. ” have your people learned nothing from history?”

    人们很可能会向任何人提出这个问题,但在每种情况下的答案都是,大多数情况下不会。

    我还要说,犹太人可能比大多数人更清楚地意识到最近的历史,他们自己的种族灭绝并从中吸取了教训,这反映在以色列的政策中。

    现在人们可以提出这样的论点,一些犹太人确实这样做了,即针对这些教训采取的一些政策会适得其反。

    就个人而言,我赞成弥赛亚耶稣的指导原则,当然没有自恨的犹太人。

    • 回复: @dahoit
  27. Art 说:
    @Sherman

    “巴勒斯坦人最大的悲剧之一是,他们在世界各地的许多所谓支持者更多地是出于对犹太人的仇恨”

    说谢尔姆,

    You Little Jews have to be the dumbest people on the planet. When are you Little Jews going to wise up and figure out that your Big Jews are generating the justified hate that good people have for you’ll.

    我为你们这些小家伙感到难过——你们是彻头彻尾的傻瓜——他们做错了,然后把痛苦留给了你们这些小家伙。

    今晚我会为你做额外的祈祷——艺术

    ps 我在家里的晚餐伙伴 Moshe - 知道仇恨 - 他知道他的犹太部落同胞完全仇恨,因为他不像小旅鼠那样支持以色列。 他是个男人。 为什么这么少?

    • 回复: @dahoit
    , @anonymous
  28. 一篇精彩的文章,菲尔,充满了很多可以证明的事实。 我喜欢的建议
    “petitioning the Strategic Air Command to nuke AIPAC when it next gathers here in Washington.” When I read that I went “awright!” and punched the air. Yes, I know you stated you were not suggesting it, but I’m hoping your denial was just pro forma. Anyway, it’s a great idea. Two birds with one stone, so to speak.

  29. woodNfish 说:

    我几乎总是在阅读中学到一些东西 unz.com. 我不爱以色列,但我也不爱巴勒斯坦人,我从未忘记或原谅以色列对自由的攻击和我们的水手以色列在这艘船上谋杀和致残,尽管我当时只是在读小学发生了。

    巴勒斯坦人穿着炸弹背心在街上游行,鼓励他们在杀害无辜人民和犹太人的同时自爆。 双方都很恶心。 但帕梅拉·盖勒是一个勇敢的女人,她愿意站出来说出需要说的话,如果你不喜欢就去他妈的,吉拉尔迪。 只要我们中间有穆斯林,他们就是死亡和麻烦。 伊斯兰教在任何形式上都与西方社会不相容。 应该带着偏见根除它。

    • 回复: @dahoit
    , @Rehmat
    , @Blake
    , @Art
  30. Art 说:
    @anonymouse

    ” 显然,他们误认为这艘船是一艘不友好的苏联信息收集船。 “

    Oh my — another in your face big lie jammed down our throats – just like the Six Million Lie – when will it end? What manner of people are these Jews?

  31. dahoit 说:
    @Renoman

    Citizens United是犹太复国主义妓女SC最近对宪法的补充。
    返回发件人。
    Obomba,maybe the most tone deaf POTUS in history,wants another voice for Zion on the SC.Another enemy agent.

  32. dahoit 说:
    @anonymouse

    Bombing a Soviet ship would have been more dangerous for Israel than American ship,as hindsight obviously reveals,as more aid than ever flowed to the wackos after the Liberty.Our nation is in naked thralldom to these crazies,and the world watches,cowed from amazement to complicity.

  33. biz 说:
    @schmenz

    Syrian and Iraqi Christians are the victims of Israel, not the Muslims who are actually slaughtering them, got it.

    As for the “Palestinian” Arabs, in spite of who they disproportionately choose to be their outward face, less than 2% (!) are Christian and their major persecutors are their Muslim neighbors. In contrast 10% of Israeli Arabs are Christian and they are the only Christian community in the Middle East which is growing.

    • 回复: @schmenz
  34. dahoit 说:
    @Art

    As antisemitism is global,the amazing lack of self introspection by Jews, as to its causes ,who are unwilling unable to fathom that it is Jews own actions that promote this anger,from their obvious character flaws,and ubiquitous support for Israel,the most corrupt and inciting bunch of kindle producing creeps in modern history,eclipsing even the nazis as thugs,and the KKK as racists,is beyond belief.
    至于以色列本身,反犹主义者希望其毁灭的模因完全被现实所掩盖,即他们反犹主义的对象不会离开他们认为犹太复国主义者控制的国家。仇恨的角度肯定被完全缺乏美国人所削弱当然,对美国犹太人的偏见行动,买嘿宣传作品。
    America is a land of immigrants,where national origins are irrelevant,and Jews are just as legitimate citizens as anyone else,but the conundrum of their dual citizen loyalties is just a harbinger of the potential danger of others(Muslims?)in this age of global neoliberalization of shifting populations who have no or little stake in our(alleged?) Enlightened Constitutional values.
    Being eroded by the original duals,the Zionists of course.
    毁灭的种子。

  35. Rehmat 说:
    @Sherman

    Hatred of Jew, you said idiot!

    超过 85% 的巴勒斯坦人学习古兰经而不是你的塔木德,根据以色列沙哈克教授的说法,这是世界上最可恨的文学。

    我记得 2012 年,当塔木德在塔木德中的第一部增补以阿拉伯语出版时——这是由反伊朗的以色列盟友约旦国王委托的一个项目——以色列收入最高的说客亚伯拉罕·福克斯曼(每年 734,000 美元)大喊犯规。 他要求约旦国王确保阿拉伯人不要从字面上理解翻译(对耶稣和玛丽的侮辱)。

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/05/26/talmud-goes-arabic-jewish-groups-hit-the-wall/

    • 回复: @dahoit
    , @Sherman
  36. bjondo 说:

    第一修正案旨在允许、保护谎言和谎言而不是真相。

    原因 p gellar 和 splc 以及电视播音员和纽约时报之类的人(只有适合犹太人的新闻)

    never have a problem.

    只是说真话的人。

  37. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Art

    你听起来像个彻头彻尾的白痴。 总是同样的比喻。

    Eat your pork and beans and pray that god gives you some brain cells that work

    • 回复: @Sherman
    , @Art
  38. M_Young 说:

    This reminds me of a billboard put up by an immigration restrictionist picturing a young white boy, and later a version with the boy and a young black girl, that simply noted that in the kids’ lifetimes, mass immigration would drive the US population past half a billion.

    The billboards met with political threats, and were in many cases taken down.

  39. dahoit 说:
    @woodNfish

    Pamela Geller is a dual citizen traitor from the 5 towns on LI,a nexus of little Israel in America.
    A corrupt piece of puss that needs antibiotic infusion.
    She spews are lie after lie.
    就穆斯林而言,与犹太复国主义者相比,他们会赢得美国公民奖。
    但是,是的,事件表明来自美国和犹太复国主义恐怖主义受害者国家的不受控制的移民是愚蠢的。
    特朗普是唯一承认这种白痴的候选人。

    • 回复: @woodNfish
  40. dahoit 说:
    @Greg Bacon

    是的,世界各地的犹太复国主义者正在关闭言论自由的途径,因为他们试图阻止历史潮流。
    蠕虫最终总是会转动。

  41. Rehmat 说:
    @woodNfish

    和你一样,我不喜欢过去与纳粹合作的以色列犹太人。 但我讨厌像你这样的懦夫,他们不得不将自己的真实身份隐藏在一些犹太猪的背后,以妖魔化以色列的敌人。

    其中一只披着羊皮的狼是前犹太恐怖分子转变为和平活动家 Uri Avnery。 他和你一样声称以色列是由法西斯统治的——但后来这个骗子声称伊朗前总统艾哈迈迪内贾德博士为以色列摩萨德工作。

    https://rehmat1.com/2013/09/29/uri-avnery-ahmadinejad-was-mossad-agent/

  42. “犹太人”并不像某些可恶的疯子喜欢幻想的那样为世界上的所有疾病负责,也不是“被选中的人”,以至于世界上的每个其他人都必须屈从于他们的每一个功能失调的心血来潮外国的政治阶层。

    In the long run, “what’s good for the Jews” is also what’s good for everyone else, and that works both ways.

    Realism requires that we neither vilify nor exalt any other human beings; doing either produces grave errors in policy that aren’t easily fixed.

    “对任何人都怀有恶意,对所有人怀有爱心,在正义中坚定不移,正如上帝让我们看到正义一样,让我们​​努力完成我们所从事的工作,包扎国家的伤口。”

    • 回复: @RobinG
  43. dahoit 说:
    @Rehmat

    我确定你看过统治伊朗的纽约法官的故事? 负责9-11?沙特人随后宣布OBL无罪!(据我所知,他可能是)
    What a twisted world.

    • 回复: @Rehmat
    , @Rabbitnexus
  44. dahoit 说:
    @Anonymous

    我从未读过 Giraldi 批评 Mammon 的文章。
    如果有上帝,在地狱里他不可能选择你作为他的选民。

  45. dahoit 说:
    @Rehmat

    在网络上的某个地方,他们在宗教文本中报告了一定程度的暴力。犹太教,然后是基督教,然后是伊斯兰教,顺序下降。
    The truth is amazing,as it it always hidden when not part of the agenda of Israel.

    • 回复: @Rehmat
  46. dahoit 说:
    @Fran Macadam

    什么种族灭绝?犹太人比以往任何时候都多?
    我不是否认 CC 集中营,也不是否认大规模死亡,只是否认它是最终解决方案的说法,因为这被现实所掩盖。犹太复国主义宣传使他们的掠夺成为可能。

  47. Anonymouse 说:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Why would Israel attack a US ship? Please provide their reason for doing so. Where/when did they claim that they took the ship to be a WW I Egyptian horse transport?

    • 回复: @bjondo
    , @hes
  48. Sherman 说:
    @anonymous

    艺术喜欢他的政府发行的猪肉和豆类罐头。 这是他最喜欢的食物。

    他和他想象中的朋友 Moshe 分享了它——他和想象中的女朋友分享他的床。

    • 回复: @Rabbitnexus
  49. David 说:

    菲利普·吉拉尔迪 (Philip Giraldi) 引发了一场又一场关于以色列和美国的大论战。 值得称赞的是,他们从不刻薄或失败主义者。

  50. Wally 说: • 您的网站
    @OilcanFloyd

    There is no difference. The sleazy Zionist zebra will change it’s stripes as needed.

    这一切都是关于暴力种族主义至上主义的犹太人维持他们的不义之财和被盗赠品。

    向 Giraldi 致敬,让他们继续前进。

  51. Sherman 说:
    @Rehmat

    嘿荷马

    你是对的。 塔木德是一本邪恶的书。 例如,它禁止人与动物同居。

    Could you imagine if you were a Jew? Your poor goat would need to find someone else to satisfy his urges!

    棚架

    • 回复: @Art
    , @Druid
    , @Rabbitnexus
  52. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    Dear Mr, Giraldi

    像往常一样,另一个很棒的帖子!
    只是一件小事,仅供参考……战略空军司令部现在更名为美国战略司令部。
    They do the same mission, I’m guessing.
    美国战略司令部是内布拉斯加州奥夫特空军基地的主要存在。
    是的,负责的白痴愿意(或者是被迫)向 Nuttin'yahoo0ooooo 的 IDF 土地注入数十亿美元。 与此同时,Offutt 的两个室外游泳池都永久关闭。 基地剧院已关闭。 甚至没有足够的钱来修剪所有的草。
    至少他们得到了修好跑道的资金,这样军用飞机就可以继续在真正的空军基地着陆和起飞。
    谢谢,以色列。 我们可以在你的服务中更加谦卑吗?

  53. 很好,菲尔。 除了最温和的话语之外,几乎不可能批评以色列。 犹太人——作为一个民族——可能永远不会被“定型”(除非有利)。是的,我们可能会承认并赞扬“犹太人的礼物”——但肯定不会是他们的瘟疫。

    These rigid rules of discourse on the other hand do not apply to Israel’s numerous foes. Just ask the survivors in Iraq, in Libya, in Syria, in Lebanon, in Palestine and in Iran. Are US policies fair? Of course not. But keep that to yourself. ‘Anti-Semitism shall not be tolerated!’

    考虑到这些文化矛盾,难道我们现在不是完全废除“反犹太主义”这个有毒和操纵性概念的时候了吗? 该术语本身就是一种特洛伊木马。 这是一个自动语音抑制器。

    ‘Anti-Semitism’ deliberately conflates thoughts and speech with aggressive, genocidal violence. This is a deliberate fallacy. And its political benefits to the usual suspects are enormous. So watch what you say. ‘Anti-Semitism shall not be tolerated!’

    But those who test this taboo and who dare to criticize world Jewry have informed and important observations to share. Yet they are routinely banished from the political process. Meanwhile, whole nations are destroyed. Is connecting these dots ‘anti-Semitic’. Absolutely.

    We therefore have two choices: 1) Remain quiet or, 2) Reject this insidious term.

    Judge people by their actions, not their uncomfortable words.

    指责一个人不喜欢犹太人或不信任或避开犹太人当然是公平的,但这种情况不是犯罪——也不应该是。 此外,恶意可以通过做好事来治愈。 应该针对的是有害的政治行为。 然而它往往不是。 允许犹太人至上主义的破坏性影响继续进行,因为可能无法确定其影响范围。 “反犹太主义”的虚假问题是一个烟幕弹。 它是对犹太至上主义者的保护球。 “反犹太主义”的概念本身就充满了虚假的精神病标签和诽谤中伤的谣言。

    至于仇恨犹太至上主义者,个人应该可以自由地喜欢或不喜欢他们选择的任何人。 犹太人当然为自己拥抱这种自由——而且没有道歉。 实施暴力才是犯罪。 让我们专注于此。

    No one–including Zionists–should be allowed to initiate violence. This goes for the Klan as well as the IDF.

    The simple rule of not initiating violence should guide political action. Once, it did. Yet Zio-Washington now embraces the supremacist doctrine of ‘preemption’. Thus, we’re locked in a series to non-essential wars that serve Israeli interests. This is a criminal enterprise.

    Incredibly, it’s bad thoughts and insensitive speech that now pose unacceptable risks on US campuses. The wars however are just swell! These are Orwellian times.

    是犹太人至上主义——而不是“白人至上主义”——在美国生活中变得可以接受。 三K党和纳粹都死了。 但被选中的人民和以色列国防军正在崛起。 断言这是“反犹太主义”吗? 完全。

    可以说,美国的犹太复国主义者将以色列的核“安全”置于美国利益之上。 这些价值观构成了真正的危险。 但它通过犹太至上主义的意识形态隐含地合理化。 是不是该撕毁这种意识形态的时候了? 撕下来!

    那些在高位工作并且将犹太人的生命置于非犹太人生命之上的人——然后将这种偏见转化为公共政策——带着至上主义的价值体系。 这是对美国利益的诅咒。 这也是对美国安全和世界安全的明显而现实的威胁。

    与白人至上主义者数量不断减少不同,犹太至上主义者在犹太人口中所占的比例很大,而且还在不断增长。 这会产生黑暗的政治后果。

    是否有白人至上主义者拥有电视台、主要报纸或电影制片厂?

    Do any white supremacists manage think tanks or deliver speeches before both houses of Congress?

    Worse still, the Jewish supremacists who guide global Jewry have acquired access to vast US military power. But the bad news doesn’t end even there.

    犹太至上主义者不仅拥有优越感,而且还致力于剥夺拥有自己种族身份的白人的权力。 将自己视为一个独特社区的白人(犹太人的方式)受到诽谤。 这种指控分裂了白人文化并削弱了白人的影响力。 因此,它伤害了所有美国白人。

    与此同时,许多犹太至上主义者赋予自己最高受害者的地位。 这赋予了他们权力,保护了他们,并统一了他们的社区。 当非犹太白人拒绝这种说法时,他们会被抹黑为反犹太主义者。

    '不能容忍偏执'!

    That accusation is designed to torpedo Free Speech.

    这种犹太人至上主义的心态已经让位于对艾莉森·威尔等犹太复国主义批评者的攻击。 这是对言论自由的直接攻击。 这是犹太人至上主义的“新常态”。 具有讽刺意味的是,它伪装成“反法西斯主义”。

    Therefore, the entire ‘anti-semite’ paradigm should be trashed. It’s worse than the n-word because 1) it is not only a message of hate, but 2) it is a tool of censorship.

    这就是为什么所谓的“反犹太主义”在兴起。 “反犹太主义的兴起”与对犹太复国主义行为的厌恶程度的上升完全相关。 但这是完全合理的。 它具有道德清晰度。 但“反犹太主义”的范式会提出相反的要求。 我们的大罪——我们的“疾病”——正在挑战虚假的犹太复国主义叙事以及随之而来的不诚实的政治谣言。 犹太复国主义者将这种抵抗称为“偏执”。

    不幸的是,对这些问题进行公开和诚实的辩论是犹太复国主义者最不想要的。 不能容忍'反犹太主义'! 所以言论自由必须得到管理。

    因此,犹太人至上主义危及自由和正义。 特权——包括“优先购买权”——是犹太人至上主义的标志。 这是美国的污点。 因此,必须抵制犹太人至上主义的特权和过度行为。

    • 同意: Kiza
    • 回复: @geokat62
  54. Bill Jones 说:

    The vomiting of the state of Israel on the people of Palestine was the biggest geo-political disaster since WWII.

    • 回复: @Ace
  55. RobinG 说:
    @Fran Macadam

    How about, we uphold our own laws, Fran? (“…neither vilify nor exalt…”)

    以色列侵犯人权会触发“莱希法”吗?
    Not much chance. Israel is shielded by the US Israel Lobby of devoted Israel-firsters and 5th column dual-nationals. But kudos to Hank Johnson and the 10 other brave signers for suggesting that the US might actually enforce its’ own laws.

    《莱希法》禁止美国向侵犯人权的外国军事单位提供军事援助,这意味着以色列的部分军事援助可能会被切断。 Eleven lawmakers implored Secretary Kerry to determine if reports of Israeli human rights violations triggered the Leahy Law. Of course, the backlash against these lawmakers has already begun. The Israel Lobby is working hard to stop members of Congress from speaking out.

    Read the letter here, and you might want to thank your Rep. —
    http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000153-c56c-d662-a75b-cfecc6be0000

    • 回复: @Fran Macadam
  56. Art 说:
    @anonymous

    “You sound like a total idiot. Always the same trope.”

    哦,亲爱的——我真实的评论比你生病的部落犹太人受害比喻——六百万个谎言更有趣。

    ps 绝对的事实是,坏人被憎恨是因为他们是不道德的——这是人性。

    p.s. Lies about the deaths of the USS Liberty sailors and fine humans like Rachel Corry only dig your Jew tribe into a greater and deeper pit of hate. Fewer and fewer people believe your big lies. When they realize that they have been had – hate ensues.

    ps 一分耕耘一分收获。

    ps 自行承担风险。

  57. mtn cur 说:

    Funny how the lebensraum syndrome creeps in no matter the time or place and always sheep dipped as self defense. Nine thousand years and one hundred miles from where I sit, one bunch of “Indians” coveted the cave dwelling occupied by another bunch and so, by the dawns early light, thumped them all on the head, tossed the corpses over the cliff and moved in. If our comedy writers were worth two cents they could write some real howlers about the Palestinian Israeli lebensraum upscuttle.

  58. Marcus 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    犹太人的左派是两者中较大的一个,但 Neokahns 的拳头超过了他们的体重。

  59. juster 说:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    As a Jew I’m pretty pissed off at a lot of Jewish elites. The financial elites. The globalists. The multiculturalists. The regressive left. The Israel first crowd. Etc. You are totally right, for ordinary Jews we’ve got to start to understand that these elites are hurting us and leading to a whole new wave of anti-Semitism. While I never support the policies they promote, as an ordinary person born Jewish I get lumped in with “organized Jewish power” and get asked to defend their policies – which I don’t agree with – and I get accused of participating in some kind of conspiracy to promote white genocide – which I completely abhor.

    老实说,现在身为犹太人有点糟糕。 我不能代表精英们说话,但似乎不,他们没有吸取历史的教训,除非以色列确实拥有核武器,因此如果不带走其他所有人,就不会被种族灭绝。

  60. Art 说:
    @Sherman

    “You’re right. The Talmud is an evil book. For instance, it prohibits cohabitation between people and animals.

    Could you imagine if you were a Jew? Your poor goat would need to find someone else to satisfy his urges!”

    舍姆,

    你终于让我不高兴了——别管这些山羊了。 他们是很好的动物。 他们总是寻求制高点。

    他们不像你们犹太人,他们是最底层的人——救护车的人文部落——永远吸食人们的烦恼——把不幸变成更多的金钱和权力。

    艺术

    ps可怜的Moshe今晚要吃晚饭了(炸鸡——嗯)。 他是个男人——不要害怕,他会让我安定下来。

  61. anon • 免责声明 说:

    有了像以色列这样的“朋友”,美国不需要任何敌人。

  62. @RobinG

    “莱希法禁止美国向侵犯人权的外国军事单位提供军事援助”

    好吧,它也没有针对任何数量的美国政策友好型独裁政权而强制执行。 有太多的军事工业战利品处于危险之中,无法遵守道德规范,更不用说法律了。

  63. Boris 说:

    The Liberty billboard demonstrates that First Amendment guaranteed freedom of speech in America is limited by how much money you have

    You don’t seem to know what the First Amendment is all about. You can’t force businesses to accept your billboards. If they breached a contract, then sue them. Whining about “initiatives that are aimed at denying first Amendment rights” just makes you look dumb.

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  64. Mulegino1 说:

    Whatever one thinks of Hitler, this quotation from Mein Kampf was certainly a prophetic one:

    “为了居住在那里,它甚至没有进入他们的头脑以在巴勒斯坦建立一个犹太国家。 他们所想要的只是一个中央组织,以骗取自己的国际主权,并拥有自己的主权,并摆脱了其他国家的干预:一个被判有罪的恶徒的避风港和一个崭露头角的骗子的大学。”

    That is precisely what Israel has become: a swindler’s paradise, an extortionist’s dream, a tourist resort for convicted fugitives.

    并且认为德国人民,甚至比美国人还要多,仍在向历史上最大的诈骗和敲诈勒索支付赎金。

    • 回复: @Boris
  65. Durruti 说:

    朋友们,

    This topic deals with the very existence of our Country. It has lost its independence. Our Republic is no more. And from LBJ, to Hollywood Obomber, and the current band of political wannabe phoney Presidents, traitors – whores, our Government is ever more bought by the Zionist Land Thieves.

    我们的共和国于 22 年 1963 月 XNUMX 日在达拉斯被政变暗杀,必须恢复。

    达拉斯政变是现代“阿拉伯之泉”中的第一次。 它是由摩萨德-中央情报局、犹太复国主义寡头执行的。 而50年后,又在越南、-4、印度尼西亚(2)-1965、危地马拉-1+、伊拉克、100,000、叙利亚、利比亚、南斯拉夫、阿富汗、索马里、刚果、尼加拉瓜、苏丹、也门、阿根廷屠宰了500,000万、希腊、智利、巴勒斯坦和其他十几个国家——后来,造成的痛苦还在继续。 这些城市——整个中东和非洲部分地区的基础设施都遭到了破坏。 他们还没有完成。

    The Kennedys, ML King, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, and John Lennon, have all paid with their lives for their efforts to retain and restore our Republic. Snowden, Assange, and Manning, are in prison, imprisoned, or, in exile. The Statesman, Ron Paul, does his best from isolation land. And there are others, McKinney, and Kucinich.

    在欧洲和中东,有Dieudonné、Alain Soral、Louis Laurent、Jean Marie、Marine等勒庞,还有来自Novorossiya的游击队、真主党、叙利亚军队、俄罗斯在叙利亚的空军等,谁坚守阵地。

    Back in the USA – Our First amendment to our Constitution, and our entire Constitution, our Habeas Corpus, and our Honor, are worth fighting for.

    “我们认为这些真理是不言而喻的:所有人都是平等创造的……政府是在人中间建立的,其权力来自被统治者的同意; 只要任何形式的政府都破坏了这些目标,人民就有权利改变或废除它,并成立新政府,并以这种原则为基础……”

    以上是一部分 独立宣言,由托马斯·杰斐逊(Thomas Jefferson)撰写。

    杰斐逊 further explained his approach to the next generation in his letter to James Madison:

    “我据此证明是不言而喻的,'地球属于对活人的使用权':”

    “然后,我说地球在其发展过程中完全属于自己,属于每一代人。 2d。 一代收到它清除了第一代的债务和累赘。 1d中的3d。 等等。 对于如果第一。 可以向它收取债务,那么地球将属于死者,而不是活着的世代。”

    2016 年,第一次美国革命的理论家托马斯杰斐逊将坚持要求最新的公民通过自我赋权清理马厩并重建一个新的共和党政府,以恢复我们的自由以及繁荣和社会正义的经济,因为姗姗来迟的第二次美国革命。

    对于 愿景!

    恢复我们的民主共和国!

    来自 无政府主义者集体, Durruti

  66. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @juster

    Kind of sucks being Jewish right now to be honest

    犹太人有什么时候不寻求同情吗?

    只要巴勒斯坦人获得返回自己家园的权利,你就值得同情你糟糕的犹太人身份。

    you’ll deserve sympathy for your sucky Jewish status just as soon as the German people who have been reviled by your sucky lot have their dignity and honor restored.

    一旦犹太人从美国财政部、政治和军队中解脱出来,你就值得同情你糟糕的犹太人身份。

    ’til then,
    吸了

    PS重新

    “除非以色列确实拥有核武器,因此如果不带走其他所有人,就不会被种族灭绝。”

    Jews have spent their entire tenure on this earth slaughtering other people then claiming victimhood for themselves.

    运行数字:

    有多少犹太人死于波斯人之手? 零
    How many Persians died at the hands of Jews? 75,000 +

    有多少犹太人死于埃及人之手? 零
    What befell the Egyptians at the hands of Jews? Their first-born slaughtered, their leadership killed, their treasure stolen.

    During WWI how many Jews starved to death in Germany? ZERO
    第一次世界大战期间,有多少德国人在德国饿死? 800,000

    魏玛期间有多少犹太人在德国饿死? 零
    During Weimar what was the status of Germans in Germany? Women were forced to prostitute themselves to feed their children; wounded soldiers lived on the streets.
    Meanwhile, Jews bought up German assets for pennies on the dollar and introduced debasing and degenerate forms of art and media.

    During World War II how many Jews died as a result of firebombing in Germany? ZERO
    二战期间,有多少德国人死于盟军对德国的恐怖轰炸? 600,000

    二战后犹太人和犹太巴勒斯坦的状况如何? 欧洲的犹太人被安置在德国人流离失所的家中; 犹太人得到了美国纳税人和机构数十万美元的援助和支持。 犹太难民得到食物和安置。 犹太巴勒斯坦经历了大量财富和机构建设以及城市和机构的发展。

    Meanwhile, for more than three years AFTER Germany surrendered, German women and children were deliberately maintained on a near-starvation diet, the plan of the Jew Morgenthau.
    成千上万的德国战俘被故意饿死。
    German cities were reduced to rubble, part of a plan that Jews fully participated in planning and carrying out.
    German civilians were ethnically cleansed from their homelands by the millions.

    While you’re indulging your sucky Jew pity party, suck. on. this:

    Jews have pulled off large-scale slaughters of other people’s children and grandparents by the millions.

    Jews have extorted 赔偿 对于从未发生过的大屠杀。

    You owe us.

    我们有你的电话号码; 我们对你的计划很明智,我们疯了,下一次,犹太人将无处可藏。

    真主党!
    伊朗!
    美国!

    • 回复: @Boris
    , @Trotsky
    , @Ace
    , @juster
  67. Chet Roman 说:

    欧洲许多国家的言论自由已经被大厅限制了。 如果您发表评论挑战国家批准的历史或对国家元首发表贬低言论,您可能会被判入狱。 例如,德国喜剧演员扬·博默曼 (Jan Böhmermann) 可能会因“诽谤法西斯土耳其总统埃尔多安 (Erdogan)”而面临牢狱之灾。

    也许 SNL 的演员也应该因为他们在以色列的短剧而受到指控:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/11/snl-lands-in-hot-water-with-anti-defamation-league-over-hagel-sketch.html

    Of course this has been going on for decades: Israeli Minister “We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust”‬

  68. DaveE 说:
    @juster

    我们正在耐心地等待你们这些“好犹太人”来证明这一点。 “好犹太人”是一个自我否定的概念。

    • 回复: @juster
  69. Boris 说:
    @Mulegino1

    有人想知道你为这样的场合准备了多少希特勒的话。 一个太多了,仅供参考。

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  70. Boris 说:
    @anonymous

    You stupid neo-Nazis aren’t fooling anyone, you know. Feel free to follow the actions of your fuhrer when it comes to your end of life plans.

    • 回复: @Wally
  71. woodNfish 说:
    @dahoit

    No, Geller tells the truth. You just don’t like it.

  72. Druid 说:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    绝对的,他们太聪明了,以至于他们变得愚蠢!

  73. Druid 说:
    @Sherman

    我注意到你们Ziofascists 在面对时总是诉诸卑鄙。 它不起作用。 只是向你展示你是什么!

    • 回复: @Wally
  74. Druid 说:
    @juster

    对你好。 现在想象一下,在 AIPAC 等对穆斯林进行了数十年的贬损诽谤之后,成为穆斯林会是什么样子

    • 回复: @Rabbitnexus
    , @OilcanFloyd
  75. Talha 说:
    @juster

    I second your feelings bro. I live next to normal working-class Jewish families; they’re raising their kids like everyone else and not out to run other people’s lives. I neither lump collective guilt at your feet anymore than I lump collective guilt at any other ethnic group. Keeping on speaking up, your voice is important – it lets people know that it isn’t because Jews are in charge, but because the wrong Jews are in charge. You are an important ally – you have a better chance to help ‘clean house’ than others. You had no choice which womb bore you, just like any of us – your deeds are the crux of the matter.

    在精神上。

    • 同意: Ace
  76. Santoculto 说:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    聪明如病态的骗子,换句话说,不够聪明。

    ……做正确的事……

    智能的核心概念。

  77. Svigor 说:

    Renoman: Yes, Jews = OG Dindunuffins. Thus even arguments as silly as “slavery was legal!” are deployed on their behalf. Funny how that doesn’t get whites off the hook for anything.

  78. Svigor 说:

    You stupid neo-Nazis aren’t fooling anyone, you know. Feel free to follow the actions of your fuhrer when it comes to your end of life plans.

    回到阿查。 随时关注马萨达英雄的行动。

  79. Svigor 说:

    I’ve noticed you Ziofascists always resort to vileness when confronted. It doesn’t work. Just shows you up for what you are!

    你有一定道理。 没有人像犹太人 IME 那样迅速地变得卑鄙/下流。 另一方面,他说的有道理。 瑞玛特 is a goat-fucker.

  80. @Boris

    Geller plays the First Amendment card, along with the “anti-Semite” card, whenever someone objects to her spewings. If it is good enough for the Israel Firsters, then it is good enough for real Americans.

    • 回复: @Boris
  81. @Boris

    如果他引用丘吉尔、斯大林或内塔尼亚胡的话,你会抱怨吗? 这三个人都和希特勒一样邪恶。

    • 回复: @Astuteobservor II
    , @Boris
  82. Wally [又名“ BobbyBeGood”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Boris

    你是我的越橘。

    时代在变。

    It’s supremacist Jews who are fooling less & less people. Their Wizard of Oz smoke & mirrors are being found out

    有带有神话中的“ 6万犹太人,5万其他人和毒气室”的“纳粹”,还有没有神话中的“ 6万犹太人,5万其他人和毒气室”的“纳粹”。

    “ 6万犹太人,5万其他犹太人和毒气室”在科学上是不可能的欺诈行为。
    请参阅此处揭穿的“大屠杀”骗局:
    http://www.codoh.com
    没有名字的呼唤,在这里进行公平的竞争环境辩论:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    还应注意,尽管犹太人声称确切知道这些所谓的巨大坟墓在哪里,但实际上并没有一个可验证的,可挖出的群众坟墓,而不仅仅是声称可以开采(回想起埋葬在特雷布林卡的900,000的索赔)。

    “大屠杀”故事情节是有史以来最容易被揭穿的叙事之一。 这就是为什么那些质疑它的人遭到逮捕和迫害的原因。 这就是为什么暴力,种族主义和特权至上的犹太至上主义者要求进行审查。 压制寻求真理的自由是什么真理? 真实的事实不需要受到审查。

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    , @Boris
  83. Wally [又名“ BobbyBeGood”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Druid

    That is when they’re not absorbed in poo-poo & pee-pee talk.

    Take a look at Hollywood for a demonstration.

    我们可以没有他们生活,他们不能没有我们生活。

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    , @Anonymous
  84. Rehmat 说:
    @dahoit

    The Most Zionists suffer from the ‘mental decease’ claimed to be hereditary among some European Jews. They’re obsessed with Muslims for blame to whitewash their own crimes against humanity.

    Zionist filth is very afraid of Iran becoming region’s largest economy – and not having a few old-fashioned nukes.

    最近最大的笑话来自内塔尼亚胡,他指责已故的巴勒斯坦穆夫提扭曲希特勒的手臂以杀死数千名“无辜”犹太人。

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/22/netanyahu-absolves-hitler-of-holocaust/

  85. Trotsky 说:
    @anonymous

    Case in point why jews support the left.
    At least that jewish cuck you replied to might learn goyim will hate him no matter how much he hates his own people.

    • 回复: @juster
  86. anarchyst 说:

    如果一个国家死于种族灭绝,为什么他们会保留记录? 为什么他们要在数百英里(甚至数千英里)以外的地方修建“营地”,配备卫生设施,住房,娱乐,医疗和其他辅助设施。 仅通过“消除”这些麻烦而不经历所有这些麻烦,难道不是一件容易的事吗? 犹太共产主义者布尔什维克就是在共产主义轨道上被征服国家的非共产主义平民中做到这一点的。

    在整个犹太人的“大屠杀™”交易中,有些“大发”。 犹太犹太复国主义者与纳粹分子达成协议以使犹太德国人的生活“不舒服”,这已不是什么秘密。

    自1800年代以来,建立“家园”一直是犹太复国主义者的“梦想”。 有什么比使“德国社会的奶油”(犹太人)困难的事更好的鼓励“移民”到贫瘠的土地的方法? 关于所谓的犹太“大屠杀™”的真相已经揭晓。 。 。

    所谓的犹太人“大屠杀™”已变成事实上的“宗教”,不允许偏离正统观念。 实际上,在大多数欧洲国家中,在罚款和监禁的痛苦下,严格禁止对犹太人的“大屠杀™”真相进行独立调查。 在美国,情况并没有那么糟,只有“部落”成员的工作丧失以及个人和职业毁灭才可以明显看出犹太人“大屠杀™”的真实真相暴露出来。

    关于人类历史上这一小事件的真相将改变世界上许多人的看法,这些人将这一事件当作“摇钱树”的“摇钱树”。 。 。 “没有像“ SHOAH业务”这样的业务。
    犹太人在这一事件中的同谋被仔细地“掩盖”了。

    奇怪的是,犹太利益集团会追捕并监禁一名 90 多岁的德国“营地守卫”,而当他们的“同类”卷入真正的野蛮行动时,他们会另眼相看。 想到营地“capos”和“sonderkommandos”(主要是犹太人)。 这些犹太“合作者”中没有一个被绳之以法(犹太)。 我想血浓于水。

    当前审查制度的一个很好的例子是等待那些敢于质疑“官方”犹太“大屠杀”正统观念的人们的命运。 大多数欧洲国家已将任何偏离“官方”犹太“大屠杀”故事的思想定为犯罪。 为什么?? 实际上,当涉及“大屠杀”时,TRUTH并不是防御。
    Ask指出二战研究员David Irving,为避免受到惩罚,他被迫撤回TRUTH。 。 。

    如果人们只知道为犹太人的“大屠杀”而进行的计划(在“选择的”计划中),那将是一个庞大的大屠杀。 您会看到,犹太人的“大屠杀”对于迫使建立犹太国家是必要的。 在这种情况下,ENDS证明了MEANS的合理性。 在整个人类历史上,曾有过许多悲惨得多的“大屠杀”,但犹太人的“大屠杀”是唯一重要的事件。 。 。

    大多数犹太人永远不会满足于知道,今生在世上作恶的人,来生必将付出代价。 . . 他们向造物主复仇,并自命为复仇者(违反马赛克法,但不违反他们的反外邦犹太法典)。

    大多数犹太人都是复仇心切的人,他们永远不会放弃通过从金钱或财产中榨取外邦人 (goyim) 来“赚钱”的机会。 犹太人在德国因在两次世界大战之间利用非犹太人的德国人而受到憎恨。 在他富有的犹太邻居用粮食换土地的时候,普通的德国人没有锅可以撒尿。 . . 利用德国的犹太银行家情况。

    看看“所谓的犹太“大屠杀™”的商业化,而更大的共产主义(真正的)大屠杀被方便地遗忘了。 为了确保犹太人“大屠杀™”“幸存者”的持续供应,犹太人在他们的子孙后代身上纹上了他们的 ATM(哎呀,我的意思是“营地”号码)。

    自从犹太人在 1933 年(是的,1933 年)向德国宣战以来,德国人别无选择,只能完成将德国犹太人边缘化的犹太复国主义计划(至少可以说)。这实现了强迫德国犹太人移民到德国的犹太复国主义计划。巴勒斯坦同时让世界授予犹太人一个“家园”——以色列。

    犹太复国主义者在过去的6年中一直在预测犹太人的“家园”,而在相同的时间内预测731,000万的“大屠杀™”。 在欧洲行动区中,非战斗人员的实际死亡人数约为6,而不是XNUMX万(国际红十字会的官方数字)。

    关于“大屠杀™”“奥斯威辛集中营”,所谓的“气室”的设计存在工程上的矛盾。 门不是气密设计的; 这样就不可能取回尸体,在所谓的“加气”发生之后,就没有办法使房间通风。” 从工程的角度来看,这些都是非常严重的错误,将导致这些所谓的“气室”的“操作员”死亡。
    美国执行专家弗雷德·勒赫特(Fred Leuchter)前往奥斯威辛集中营,秘密地从所谓的“毒气室”获得了样本,对其进行了测试并发表了他的结果。 除一个样本外,所有样本中均不存在亚甲蓝,这证明“气室”不存在。 从用于消毒衣物的房间中获取一个阳性样本。
    Leuchter 先生因寻求真相而获得奖励,他的职业和个人品格被“部落”的人暗杀。 他失去了所有的联邦和州合同,并根据马萨诸塞州的一项晦涩难懂的“法律”被起诉,罪名是“未经许可从事工程”——该法律之前或之后从未被使用过。 . .

    众所周知,第二次世界大战后,苏联为了宣传目的而试图“建立”“死亡集中营”。
    工程上的不一致证明这些“死亡集中营”是为共产主义宣传目的而重建的。 德国人是优秀的工程师,因此不会犯明显的工程“错误”。
    是的,那里有极端的匮乏和痛苦,许多人丧生。 但是,死亡的主要原因是斑疹伤寒。 由于盟军炸弹摧毁了大多数基础设施,斑疹伤寒处于流行水平。 这就是造成大量人类死亡的原因。 。 不要放气。

    二战结束后,这些相同的“营地”被用来实习德国平民。 这些德国平民比这些“营地”的先前“占领者”遭受更大的剥夺和痛苦。 事实上,犹太人在盟军的要求下控制着这些营地,并且在对待被拘留者时非常恶毒。 事实上,被拘留的德国平民尽管是平民,但被定义为“解除武装的敌方战斗人员”,因此日内瓦公约规则不适用于他们。

    实际上,第二次世界大战后是由JEWS负责拘留营的。 我想报仇是他们的报复,因为德国人一生中第一次做犹太人的工作(营地的体力劳动)……

  87. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Philip Giraldi

    0nLiberty
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    [[jj麦凯恩的父亲在 34 年的六日战争期间掩盖了以色列在美国海军舰艇上杀害 1967 名美国人的事件。作为欧洲和地中海地区的高级海军军官,小约翰·S·麦凯恩上将帮助林登·约翰逊总统在这件事上欺骗美国人涉及USS Liberty的鲜为人知的事件
    。 。 。
    对这次总统掩盖的动机的洞察始于确定林登约翰逊如何允许自己被操纵。 在与来自伊利诺伊州的 11 届共和党人(1961-1983 年)前国会议员保罗芬德利讨论后出现了第一个线索
    。 。 。

    In response to a question, Findley identified Arthur Krim as the Jewish adviser and fundraiser closest to Lyndon Johnson. Research quickly uncovered published materials on Krim written by the late Grace Halsell, a speechwriter for LBJ and later an author of books chronicling the political influence of Christian Zionists such as Jerry Falwell. Johnson personally hired Halsell, a native Texan, who, impor- tantly for this analysis, was inside the White House Situation Room during the Six-Day War. With that war, Israeli security became a priority of U.S. foreign policy and a focal point of Pentagon coordination as Tel Aviv became a favored recipient of U.S. military technology.

    在 1967 年的冲突之后,美国也成为以色列的主要武器供应商。 在导致 1967 年战争的决策过程中,亲以色列的顾问围绕着约翰逊。 “我周围的每个人,无一例外都是亲以色列的,”哈尔塞尔回忆道。 她确定了约翰逊的十多名亲密顾问,包括他的国家安全顾问沃尔特·罗斯托和担任负责政治事务的副国务卿的兄弟尤金·罗斯托,以及前最高法院大法官亚瑟·戈德堡,当时担任美国大使联合国。

    白宫法律顾问利奥·怀特 (Leo White) 和杰克·雅各布森 (Jake Jacobsen) 和两位重要的演讲撰稿人同样支持以色列:理查德·古德温 (Richard Goodwin,传记作者多丽丝·卡恩斯·古德温 (Doris Kearns Goodwin) 的丈夫) 和父母从巴勒斯坦移居美国的本·瓦滕伯格 (Ben Wattenberg)。 同样是内政顾问拉里·莱文森和约翰·罗奇,一位狂热的犹太复国主义者和约翰逊的常驻知识分子。

    然而,正是亚瑟·克里姆的角色证实了 1967 年战争的漫长预演,并解释了导致 LBJ 掩盖以色列对自由号航空母舰攻击的编排。 作为纽约律师和联合艺术家公司的总裁,克里姆还担任民主党的财务委员会主席,当时约翰逊是民主党的领导人,而犹太捐助者占了筹集资金的一半以上
    。 。 。

    The Krims became regular guests at the LBJ Ranch. As Halsell explained: “There were also many instances in which Arthur and Mathilde were guests at the White House, and other times when, for many days running, Mathilde (without her husband (was a guest there. The Krims built a vacation home near the LBJ Ranch known as Mathilde’s house, and Johnson often traveled there by helicopter.”

    As with Morgenthau’s proximity to Roosevelt, the Krims’ prox- imity to Johnson ensured that their friendship flourished when the Senate majority leader became John F. Kennedy’s surprise pick as Vice President and then succeeded him to the Presidency following Kennedy’s assassination in November 1963.

    在 1967 年阵亡将士纪念日周末,当总司令得知苏联总理阿列克谢·柯西金警告说“如果以色列开始军事行动,苏联将向受攻击方提供帮助时,克里姆斯一家在 LBJ 牧场做客。 ” 在等待国务院起草对以色列总理列维·埃什科尔的回应时,约翰逊和克里姆斯夫妇开车到邻居家,在那里一名助手带来了消息供总统审查。 Halsell 描述了 LBJ 在 Krims 公司期间对信息所做的更改(以解释美国对未决冲突的看法:...

    > 约翰逊在柯西金的提示下,在亚瑟和玛蒂尔德·克里姆在场的情况下写给列维·埃斯克霍尔的笔记表明……特拉维夫可以先发制人,前提是可以诱导美国公众相信以色列是受害者而不是侵略者,这是一种策略完全符合博弈论。

    Johnson then traveled to New York for a $1,000-a-plate fundraiser on June 3 sponsored by Arthur Krimwho chaired the President’s Club of New York. Mathilde was seated next to Johnson when Abe Feinberg, the American Zionist community’s legendary political fundraiser, leaned over Mathilde’s shoulder and whispered: “Mr. Pres- ident, it [Tel Aviv’s attack] can’t be held any longer. It’s going within the next 24 hours.”
    。 。 。
    Israel was neither under attack nor under threat of attack as Israeli commanders later conceded. The air raid sirens were props in the stagecraft of waging war by way of deception.
    这种情况是在舞台上进行的,使以色列人和外国观察员都相信这个犹太国家处于危险之中,而特拉维夫吞并了属于其邻国的土地,四年后它仍然占据着
    。 。 。
    In the war’s first few hours, the “victimized” Israelis destroyed the Egyptian Air Force while its aircraft were still on the ground. By evening, the Jordanian Air Force was also largely destroyed. Walt Rostow sent Johnson a memo describing Tel Aviv’s military success as “the first day’s turkey shoot.” LBJ also received a memo that day from Arthur Krimthat read, “Many arms shipments are packed and ready to go to Israel, but are being held up. It would be helpful if these could be released.” Johnson ordered the arms shipped. By the evening of the second day, two-thirds of Syria’s air force had been destroyed
    。 。 。

    On June 8, 1967, Israeli jets attacked the USS Liberty, a 455-foot vessel, firing 30 mm aircraft cannons and rockets and dropping napalm. Three Israeli torpedo boats then attacked the ship with 20 mm cannons, 50-caliber machine guns and torpedoes. One torpedo blew a 39-foot hole in a former cargo hold of this refurbished WWII Liberty ship that had its cargo space converted to research facilities for an intelligence team. The blast killed 25 and left the ship listing nine degrees to starboard.

    Liberty crewmembers testified that Israeli torpedo boats fired onfirefighters and stretcher-bearers. Israeli machine gunners also strafed the ship’s fire hoses and destroyed its life rafts at close range as survivors sought to douse fires and evacuate those most grievously wounded. The attackers killed 34 and wounded 174 of a crew of 294 for a 70% casualty rate
    。 。 。

    那些寻求以色列袭击自由号航空母舰理由的人。 . . ]]

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  88. @anarchyst

    prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    仅供参考,美国所有州的工程实践法律都相当统一。 如果您认为它们没有得到强制执行,只需挂出一块木瓦并开始练习。 您可能会在很短的时间内收到您的州委员会的消息。

    • 回复: @anarchyst
  89. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    嗯,SAC 是在 1992 年解散的,所以你得问问其他人。 并不是说这是一个坏主意。 命令链的东西。

  90. mad1 说:

    @另一个弗雷德说
    仅供参考,美国所有州的工程实践法律都相当统一。 如果您认为它们没有得到强制执行,只需挂出一块木瓦并开始练习。 您可能会在很短的时间内收到您的州委员会的消息。

    我的职业生涯是在德克萨斯州从事焊接供应业务。 我的公司与金属做生意
    两代人的制造车间,名为“*********** 工程”他们已经经营了 30 -40 年,当时国家委员会出现在“相当短的时间”……真实故事。

  91. uslabor 说:
    @Sherman

    I disagree, it is only because of the mistreatment of the Palestinians that I know of the evil of the Israeli government. I know there are Jewish people fighting for the rights of the Palestinians. You are trying to smear supporters of Palestinians with the stain of Antisemitism.

  92. Svigor 说:

    Case in point why jews support the left.
    At least that jewish cuck you replied to might learn goyim will hate him no matter how much he hates his own people.

    上面提到犹太人缺乏内省的人一针见血。 在校正智商之后,这个星球上最不会内省的人(大多数聪明人比犹太人内省得多)。

    他们不仅缺乏内部限制,而且还非常偏执和咄咄逼人,所以他们也攻击所有外部批评者。

    这显然意味着诸如“世界对我们做错了”、“再也不会”、“他们将永远恨我们”等渎职行为的自私自利工具,继续在他们相当丑陋、落后的文化中生存。

    • 回复: @juster
  93. “Hillary Clinton has explicitly promised to do all in her power to oppose BDS.”

    但是,这些同样的人抵制密西西比州。 也许密西西比州应该抵制联盟。

  94. anarchyst 说:
    @another fred

    ......你是对的......但是,当时并不是所有的工程都需要在许可下进行。 Leuchter 先生的专长,执行机械设计,不受许可法的保护。 法律被“被选中”的人“拉伸”来骚扰洛伊希特先生……
    问候,

  95. DaveE 说:
    @anarchyst

    Brilliant comment, one of the best I’ve ever read. Truth is a bitch for those who “abideth not” in it.

  96. 令人作呕的变态和仇恨状态。 以色列和所有非人类的支持者都会下地狱。

  97. Ace 说:
    @anonymous

    Juster 的数字不是您认为的那个数字。 再拨一个。

    他个人对 2,000 多年前屠杀任何波斯人并不负有个人责任。 或者犹太人在魏玛所做的任何事情。

  98. Blake 说:
    @chris

    这从未被忽视

    摘自: – 黑太阳:雅利安邪教、深奥的纳粹主义和身份政治,尼古拉斯·古德里克-克拉克
    “两次世界大战期间的主要种族理论家洛思罗普·斯托达德 (Lothrop Stoddard) 曾描述过两个犹太人种族。 进入地中海世界的“贵族”塞法迪犹太人是真正的闪米特人。 然而,德系犹太人是多种血统的混合体,其特征反映了与赫梯人的通婚。 这些东部犹太人迁移到俄罗斯南部,然后在那里与可萨人融合在一起,斯托达德认为可萨人是土耳其人和蒙古人的混合体。

    到 1960 年代,犹太人的可萨血统已成为坚定的信仰。 在这个环境中被广泛阅读的两本书在这方面产生了强大的影响。 约翰·比蒂 (John Beaty) 的《美国的铁幕》(1951) 特别关注俄罗斯犹太人的根源。 他声称沙皇亚历山大二世的改革为七世纪皈依的“犹太化可萨人”提供了渗透和腐败俄罗斯的机会。 Wilmot Robertson 的 Dispossessed Majority (1972) 重复了 Stoddard 的 Khazar 论点。 基督教身份教义很容易抓住这种对俄罗斯犹太人的负面引用,但将犹太人与可萨人的通婚追溯到圣经时代。

    In A Short History of Esau-Edom in Jewry (1948), the Vancouver writer C. F. Parker had claimed that a tiny remnant of “true Judah” was pitted against a larger group of Idumean-Hittites who masqueraded as the true seed of Abraham and sought to expel the descendants of Jacob. These Esau-Hittites are the Ashkenazim, concentrated in Eastern and Central Europe and America. The old religious language also lent itself to new political contexts. Edom meant “red,” and Parker hinted that most Russian communist revolutionaries were descendants of Esau-Edom, an association also repeated by others, including Howard Rand and Wesley Swift.”

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
  99. @Sherman

    请允许我谈谈我的经历 Hasbara Sherman 先生。 我看到您在这里遭受仇恨不足,我很乐意提供弥补不足。

    可怜的小仇人,你周围的人不想让你生病的偏执狂。 请允许我以我自己的一些真正的仇恨进行干预。 我并不真正公开仇恨,但你是一个简单的野兽,除了仇恨和欲望之外几乎没有其他选择)事实上,我对你的感觉与我在玫瑰上看到蚜虫时的感觉相似。 有点不洁和恶心,显然会损害健康,但太未进化,仇恨无法升起。 我是一名基督教犹太复国主义者。 事实上,在成长过程中是摩门教徒。 默认情况下,我是购买你谎言的傻瓜之一。 我克服了它。 我发现不仅犹太人不是他们所声称的那样,而且可萨人是人类的敌人,而且伊斯兰教远非邪恶,而是法利赛犹太人瘟疫的解毒剂。 我成为了穆斯林。 我看到了塔木德教派的污点对这个宗教的自我投射谎言,你自己,我拒绝它作为恶魔及其亲属的谎言。 我发现很多像你一样的哈斯巴拉人实际上是拥有人体的恶魔,我对你和你所有同类的厌恶就像一个正派的人对恶魔的感受一样。 我是巴勒斯坦的支持者,我也更关心真相而不是我自己。 我已经得到了你们可以发出的一切,威胁,诽谤。 像你这样的生物狡猾地企图歪曲我的孩子并直接攻击我孩子的性格和安全。 尽管我以和平为导向的态度(伊斯兰教温和的指示使我更加和平),但我对你们这种人抱有极大的蔑视。 你和你的同类我会在你们余生中被围捕并监禁。 我不会沉沦到你这种亚人的水平,也不需要对你施暴,但我会把你关在笼子里,让你安全地等待你的时间,然后再被送回你来的深渊。 你是卑鄙的。 你是仇恨、谎言和变态的支持者。 以色列,因此是你的事业。 是一个恋童癖国家,一个奴隶贸易国家,一个恐怖主义盗窃国家,我希望你和你所有的人遭受可以想象的最严重的痛苦,并且你可能会因为你彻头彻尾的邪恶而永远受苦。 愿真主不怜悯你们。 愿你忍受你对他人的一切,然后像蜡烛一样一劳永逸地关闭。 永远。 我希望你不仅仅是死去的谢尔曼,我希望你从存在中消失,一个原子一个原子地拆除,完全从宇宙意识中抹去,除非它是对立的,而且是正当避免的。

    • 回复: @juster
    , @Ace
    , @Sherman
    , @OLD JEW
  100. @Rehmat

    有趣的是,他们将伊朗犹太人的说法联系起来。 伊朗犹太人是这个星球上最古老的犹太社区,尽管有无尽的贿赂和压力,他们拒绝放弃他们的伊朗民族。 离开伊朗前往以色列的伊朗犹太人只是他们社区中的少数罪犯。 以色列不过是犯罪分子的藏身之处。 国际恋童癖者、欺诈者和战犯的天堂。

  101. @schmenz

    AND JEWISH! Some Palestinians were/are Jews too. The Jews were never expelled from Palestine by the Romans the way lying Zionists try to claim. ONLY the Pharisees, the Talmudist perverts as such were expelled. The majorioty of Jews in Palestine have since become Christian and Muslim but those who did not, rejected the plans of modern Jews to come to their lands too. Today Palestinian Jews are as poorly treated as any other NON Ashgkenazim convert Jews, which 95% of today’s Jews are, which means they are NOT JEWS AT ALL, JUST A BUNCH OF EASTERN EUROPEAN FAKES AND FRAUDSTERS.

    • 回复: @biz
    , @5371
    , @Rehmat
  102. @Wally

    是的,这是很重要的一点。 无论是表示仍然对尿布内容物着迷的不成熟的人,还是为了自己的利益而需要被关押和再教育的变态和无法估量的病态的种族,犹太人对人体功能及其产品的痴迷令人不安明显的。 这一点很重要,因为许多虚假的知识分子认为他们可以引用犹太“知识分子”,而不会因为他们的精神状态而成为诸如监禁之类的干预的候选人。

    犹太知识分子,只是在玩弄自己的排泄物时找到了某种意义的犹太人。

  103. @Wally

    如果您对自己的信仰如此确定,那么为什么不回答向您提出的问题。 他们又来了:

    在我看来,您正在忘记另一个脱离主要金融体系的国家:苏联。 在我看来,如果您不讨论犹太人政策,那么您将拥有相当并行的系统。

    政治异议人士集中营? 查看

    秘密警察? 查看

    一党制国家? 查看

    专制独裁者? 查看

    在我看来,关键的不同是犹太人的政策。 我想念什么?

  104. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Wally

    Boy, if only there was a cinematic historian that we could consult about this topic…

  105. @Sherman

    然而你的塔木德鼓励犹太男人和 3 岁女孩之间发生性关系。

    Heh Sherm,你和你所信仰的瘟疫宗教是有害的。

  106. @Sherman

    做一个犹太人一定很好,并且知道你的搭档就是撒旦本人。 所以雪米,你希望在新婚之夜成为投手还是接球手?

  107. @dahoit

    沙特人忠于他们的罗斯柴尔德主人(没有他们,他们和他们讨厌的瓦哈比寄生双胞胎就会灭绝)并且他们与 9/11 几乎没有关系,因为他们在现实中一无是处。 以色列做了 9/11。

  108. @Druid

    That’s the thing. Muslims are fairly ambivalent. We’ve faced nothing but lies and slander from the West since the Crusades, why would it change now? Islam is bigger than this. Bigger than Jews, bigger than humanity and it is those who waste their limited chance trying to push against the truth who should be pitied. Rather than have their culture of licentiousness and perversions challenged, the beast people would rather attract the disenfranchised to a violent alternative, that is Takfirisim, but Takfiris (ISIS) are not from within the breast of Islam, but from the arseholes of it’s enemies.

  109. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    来吧菲尔我知道我有点苛刻,不是一点不礼貌的人,但从什么时候起,礼貌或温柔在这方面起了作用? 你知道我是你的伴侣,没有什么能把我从你身边移开。 让我的评论通过,让那些顽固的害虫吸食鸡蛋。

  110. juster 说:
    @DaveE

    是的,最好放弃你使用的任何以色列医疗技术,只是为了初学者。 祝你好运。

  111. juster 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    …. and that’s why Israel has, and will continue to have, nuclear weapons.

  112. juster 说:
    @Trotsky

    我不恨我自己的人民托洛茨基。 我希望他们在他们生活的社会和以色列中和谐地生活。 我可以批评,但没有自我憎恨。

    但是,是的,这是匿名的令人难以置信的疯狂回应。 记住驱动大多数当代反犹太人的纯粹的疯狂、偏执和仇恨是有帮助的。 它几乎和你想的一样。 如果那是另一方,那么尝试甚至进行讨论都没有意义。 显然,我个人应对各种暴行负责。 哎呀,我晚上怎么睡。

    • 回复: @Art
  113. juster 说:
    @Svigor

    奇怪的是,当人们形容你丑陋、落后、恶魔、嗜血杀手等时,你往往会有点防御性。 不知道这怎么可能发生。

  114. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @vinteuil

    Hi. Did that earn you much? I’m just wondering since Rosthchildlandia pays good money for people to write what you do, how much did they pay for this bit of feeble propaganda? I’m genuinely interested. You see most hasbarats are mindless drones and their comments could be posted by robots. Yours was sort of subtle. By rejecting the allies ascribed to you and tried to garner more credibility. Trouble is you’re still representing absolute lies and war crimes.

    Only a complete numbskull or a disingenuous hasbarat would question as you have. Anyway Heimy, it’s no problem, because you’ll be getting sent to hell along with the rest of the demons, you scuzbucket.

  115. juster 说:
    @anonymous

    关于这一切,您可能想咨询心理学家。

  116. Ace 说:
    @Bill Jones

    No people on earth have a right to any land they cannot steal or defend. However, Israel is not the issue.

    I have little love for Muslims but understand that some are angry that Israel moved into the neighborhood. But do I give a damn about what they feel? No. Every Muslim country in the M.E. involved far worse in their conquest for the original Christians and other infidel inhabitants than any “Palestinians” experienced.

    The biggest geo-political disaster since WWII appears to be the determination of organized Jewry in the West to jam multiculturalism and mass immigration down the throats of Whites for the reasons Prof. MacDonald has proposed.

    我想不出其他合理的理由来解释 Adelson、Gelbaum、ADL、可恶的 Barbara Spectre 和 George Soros 以及其他犹太开放边界狂热分子和颠覆者的疯狂。 本·斯坦 (Ben Stein) 和马克·莱文 (Mark Levin) 从不停止谈论犹太人受到的待遇如何,但前一组似乎仍在继续,好像新的集中营距离建成只有几个小时了。

    This is such a patently ludicrous “fear” as to make me doubt MacDonald’s theory and think that Mark Green’s Jewish supremacism (above) is really what’s at work. Perhaps that’s just a manifestation of the contempt for Christians that appears to be in the Talmud.

    正如格林认为的那样,对此进行诚实的讨论是不可能的。 犹太布尔什维克谋杀了数百万人,但祝你好运,在自由号航空母舰上讨论这个问题。

    同样,索尔仁尼琴关于俄罗斯犹太人的书似乎注定永远不会以英文出版。

    The aggressive use of the slur of “anti-Semitism” and the extreme measures taken to shut down examination of Israeli or domestic Jewish activities is clear evidence that organized Jewry think there is a lot to hide. The attack on Diana West was bizarre but, IMO, understandable as her book was about the enormous influence communists had in American government. If that proposition were to stand revealed as starkly as it did at her hands then very hard questions would have to be asked about the inordinately disproportionate representation of Jews in the ranks of 1930s American communism and their commitment to America.

    The destruction of Europe and the U.S. being pursued with such energy is not explicable by positing stupidity as its cause. Rather it is clear that it is caused by a terrible viciousness and distilled evil that seeks the end of Western civilization. Who is causing this is not being discussed. Merkel’s “European values” is just hogwash.

  117. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    We really have to stop letting 1 and 2 percent minorities set policy in this country. Then again, it’s us that keep taking our signs down, while we continue to let theirs be displayed, in droves. Double standards for double stupid people. Maybe the Jew is right about you goy after all.

  118. Ace 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    如果我是你,我就不会制作任何关于温和伊斯兰教奇迹的公益广告。

  119. bjondo 说:
    @Anonymouse

    why do you try to waste someone’s time with deliberate BS questions?

    forgot. you get shekels.

    when margolis was good

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/04/Liberty_Margolis.html

    • 回复: @tbraton
  120. Kiza 说:

    以色列在 1994 年种族灭绝期间违反联合国禁运向卢旺达政权出口武器怎么样?

    It appears that Israeli establishment can do any crime on the planet and get away with it. Above morality, above law, above principles, just make money any dirtiest way you can find.

    也许这就是为什么世界上的大多数人都反对以色列,以及为什么完全无辜的犹太人,一些好人,有一天可能会为此付出代价。

    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.713907

  121. Boris 说:
    @Chris Mallory

    帕梅拉·盖勒是个大坏蛋,所以我不知道你为什么要表现得像她一样。

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  122. Boris 说:
    @Wally

    scientifically impossible frauds

    你在科学上和历史上一样糟糕。 把你的新纳粹废话带到别处。

    • 回复: @Wally
  123. Boris 说:
    @Chris Mallory

    No, Churchill and Netanyahu are not as evil as Hitler. Don’t be stupid.

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  124. biz 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    每一条基因、语言和历史证据都表明你错了,但不要让它阻止你。

  125. @anonymouse

    ” 以色列支付了赔偿金。 显然,他们误认为这艘船是一艘不友好的苏联信息收集船。 这是在他们 1967 年的战争期间。 所以?”

    “Israel paid compensation.” So???

    “显然,他们误认为这艘船是一艘不友好的苏联信息收集船。 ”

    你有什么证据证明是这样???

    “This was during their 1967 war.” So?

  126. Boris 说:

    正如这些评论所表明的那样,对美国海军自由的执着与否认大屠杀和新纳粹主义高度相关。 对一般美国人来说,这不是一个特别有趣的事件。

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
    , @bjondo
  127. @Boris

    If the issue were ever discussed, I don’t think most Americans would be very happy with Israel and her supporters. As usual with Israel and Jewish power, the issue is that it isn’t supposed to be widely or honestly discussed, not that Americans have honestly and thoroughly discussed the Liberty bombing, with all of the information, and just don’t care.

    我猜想,在其他地方出生的大量“美国人”可能不会在意,但他们大多只是名义上的美国人。

    Boris, your opinion means nothing.

    • 回复: @Boris
  128. @Johnny Smoggins

    事实上,许多从一开始就反对各种犹太复国主义者计划的犹太人以及今天的许多人都对“再次被仇恨”有类似的合理担忧。

    任何大型集团都必须与此类欺诈作斗争; 例如,想想“RINO”。

    “所以我想说的是,上个世纪敦促世界上所有犹太人在以色列的一小块领土上定居的努力并不是特别“犹太人”,因为这种实现犹太复国主义目标的尝试已经违反了犹太教的道德教义(和基督教)……”

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/08/scott-lazarowitz/why-im-not-a-zionist/

  129. Boris 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Americans don’t care because it’s an event from 50 years ago and the evidence that Israel attacked the Liberty intentionally is extremely flimsy.

    而你的意见毫无意义。 从字面上看,没有人再关心这个事件了。

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
    , @schmenz
  130. bjondo 说:
    @Boris

    犹太人的压力使美国公民不知道犹太人对美国自由的攻击。

    大屠杀否认是犹太人否认真理。

    丘吉尔比真正的希特勒更糟糕,而不是犹太人创造的虚构人物。

    benyammerin nuthinyahoo is part of jewry. jewry is the real hitler. the hitler created in their fevered, demented minds. their hitler is modeled after themselves.

    • 回复: @Boris
  131. Please POST the following article by James Petras “Trump ‘the fascist’ ” to see who is really the fascist candidate at this election.

    http://dissidentvoice.org/2016/04/trump-the-fascist/

    有猫的犹太复国主义走狗,BLACK AND WHITE必须在全世界曝光,以唤醒那些像羊一样被命令投票的黑人部落。

  132. Boris 说:
    @bjondo

    JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

    Do you cry when you think about Hitler’s suicide? I hope you do.

    • 回复: @bjondo
  133. juster 说:

    Being new here, and seeing that the comments are moderated, I thought this would be a place for intelligent conversation. It seems more like a mental institution. Is this par for the course or only where Jews (or is it Jooooos, or (((Jews)))) and Israel are discussed?

    It would be nice for Jews and anti-Semites of the more reasonable and intelligent, non-raving lunatic variety to be able to discuss things, but I guess that’s too high of an expectation.

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Talha
    , @Talha
  134. Sherman 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    嘿史蒂夫

    对不起,你对我有这种感觉。

    我们就不能做朋友吗?

    🙂

    棚架

  135. @juster

    It would be nice for Jews and anti-Semites of the more reasonable and intelligent, non-raving lunatic variety to be able to discuss things, but I guess that’s too high of an expectation.

    and there you have it:

    there are two categories of political discussion, as stated by juster, a self-identified Jew:

    –Jews(即正确的 pov)

    – 反犹太主义者(即邪恶的、偏执的、种族主义的观点)

    juster 不是原创的。
    Gilad Atzmon said it first

    犹太人所做的是控制话语。

    • 回复: @juster
  136. Talha 说:
    @juster

    Dear juster,

    不要介意噪音——这只是互联网——你无法在任何地方避免噪音。 从一个穆斯林人那里拿它——你会以自己的方式得到很多废话。 我的建议是,坚持回应那些带来一些智慧的人——不,智慧是更好的词——无论你是否同意他们。 见鬼,我从老 Greasy 那里学到了很多东西,因为我们都愿意对话——而且他自称是一个极端主义的犹太人。 你可能会和一些朋友一起离开更聪明的人。

    Though it does take a toll on you. I’m in a kind of self-imposed exile due to it. But I had to respond to your earlier post because I saw how others responded. You offered a hand in friendship, understanding and solidarity and it was slapped away by people; that is obscene in my book. For these people, I would suggest you respond with a simple message that they should not expect a response unless they are willing to engage in proper civil discourse.

    我们亲切的东道主 Unz 先生举办了一场充满想法和意见的宴会。 我们都是客人。 在其他客人只表现出礼貌的情况下,自以为有权贬低或以其他方式虐待其他客人,这再次是淫秽的。 我对他们说; 举办你自己的宴会——你值得参加的人陪伴。

    Last tip (from experience), you are going to be in a position of disadvantage due to your background. Opinion will count for little and will be dismissed by many. Cite and footnote your claims with solid sources and, even if the haters don’t respect you, others with open intellects will appreciate your contributions.

    欢迎朋友。

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

    • 回复: @juster
  137. @Boris

    Boris, it’s obvious that you aren’t an American, but you likely do understand how most Americans would view Israel if the discussion were held.

    I have no desire to go into a deep discussion to prove the obvious fact that the Liberty attack was carried out on purpose to someone who is purposely denying the solid evidence that the attack was carried out on purpose.

    并声称美国人不会因为袭击发生在五十年前而在意,那是你的一厢情愿。 我只希望我们能摆脱五十、八十年或一百五十年前的政治。

    • 回复: @Boris
  138. Talha 说:
    @juster

    And of course…here’s my internet noise…

    由于明显的语音原因,您的手柄立即在我的脑海中浮现了这个场景:

    回到沉默……

    • 回复: @NoseytheDuke
  139. juster 说:
    @Talha

    谢谢你塔尔哈。 很好的建议。 正如 Stoic Seneca 所说,“避免与低等人共进晚餐。” 这就是我要做的。

    • 回复: @Talha
  140. juster 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Not at all. I’m eager for discussions with those who have anti-Semitic views based on empirical evidence and theory, say like the Kevin MacDonald varieties, and can approach the issue from a detached, scholarly, and civil perspective. Just not the crazies.

    • 回复: @geokat62
  141. bjondo 说:
    @Boris

    没有多少回复

    the shekel corps’ response notes empty?

    也许你和你的小隔间里的朋友忙着砍橄榄树

    橄榄树有着悠久而真实的记忆。 他们和巴勒斯坦人一样知道犹太人是赝品、骗子和伪装者。 所以犹太人需要消灭两者。

    • 回复: @Boris
  142. Talha 说:
    @juster

    最后一件事…

    注意这里的女士们——意思是,像这样对待她们。 他们在这里绝对是少数,但是——据我所见——他们的存在往往有助于培养其他人的一些更野蛮的冲动。 生活中女性的礼物以及匿名聊天论坛。

    和平:

  143. geokat62 说:
    @juster

    一点也不。 我渴望与那些有过的人讨论 反犹观点 基于经验证据和理论,比如凯文·麦克唐纳(Kevin MacDonald)的变种,并且可以从超脱的、学术的和公民的角度来处理这个问题。 只是不是疯子。

    I reject your use of the term “anti-Semitic” in the above sentence. While Unz, no doubt, has its share of anti-semites, the lion’s share of the regular commenters here have nothing against the Jewish people for 他们是谁……相反,他们对 what a small minority of them do. 也就是说,我建议,今后,将“反犹太主义”一词替换为“反犹太复国主义”。

    除此之外,如果您渴望基于“经验证据和理论”进行讨论,您是否有机会阅读以下文件:

    1. PNAC’s 干净的休息
    2. The Oded Yinon Plan, 1980年代以色列的战略
    3. 米尔斯海默和沃尔特, 以色列游说团与美国外交政策

    If you have, I’m sure you’ll agree that these seminal documents should form the basis of any meaningful conversation regarding this topic.

    • 回复: @juster
  144. 5371 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    [ONLY the Pharisees, the Talmudist perverts as such were expelled.]

    甚至他们都没有被驱逐出任何地方,只是前身是耶路撒冷的艾利亚卡皮托利纳市。 即使从那里开始,也不会持续很长时间。

  145. Art 说:
    @juster

    记住驱动大多数当代反犹太主义者的纯粹的精神错乱、偏执和仇恨是有帮助的……亚达……亚达……亚达……显然,我个人应对各种暴行负责。

    正义,

    嗯——一些真相:

    It is helpful to remember the sheer insanity, paranoia, and hatred driving most contemporary Jews.

    Little Jew juster – clearly that defines YOU!

    艺术

    p.s. And yes atrocities – for starters, as an active tribe, Jew people are responsible for bringing communism to power and bringing the Nazis to power after WWI.

    p.s. And you Jew have not finished your work of totally indebting America to your Big Jew bankers – but it is just a matter of time. (Is Bubbles Greenspan going to be next to Mordecai in Jew greatness?)

    ps 告诉我们小犹太人——知道你是犹太人神工作的一小部分,你的心会暖吗?

  146. Wally [又名“ BobbyBeGood”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Boris

    而你的 'holocau\$t' hasbara 废话就是你害怕辩论的。

    You have no chance in a no name calling debate and know it.

    把你的犹太至上主义谎言带到别处。

    http://www.codoh.forum.com

    “大屠杀”故事情节是有史以来最容易被揭穿的叙事之一。 这就是为什么那些质疑它的人遭到逮捕和迫害的原因。 这就是为什么暴力,种族主义和特权至上的犹太至上主义者要求进行审查。

    拒绝言论自由和寻求真理的自由是什么真理?

    真理不需要受到审查的保护。

    • 回复: @Andrew E. Mathis
  147. @Druid

    巴勒斯坦人和其他穆斯林的奇怪之处在于,当他们来到西方时,他们通常会与左撇子犹太人联手对抗东道主。 我无法想象美国或欧洲的穆斯林会抗议非法移民或对传统文化和人口统计的破坏。 他们支持!

    我完全反对美国在中东的政策和以色列/犹太人对美国的影响,但我认为没有任何理由关心巴勒斯坦人或以色列的任何其他受害者,因为他们乐于与左撇子犹太人及其盟友合作在我自己的国家反对我。 他们关心的是巴勒斯坦,我关心的是美国

  148. @Wally

    真的吗? 在我看来,一个人一遍又一遍地发布同样的废话,并附上另一个论坛的链接,就是害怕真正辩论的人。

    • 回复: @Wally
  149. Rurik 说:
    @juster

    Israel does have nuclear weapons and so won’t be genocided without taking everybody else with them.

    你听起来像是在赞美这种心态

  150. Blake 说:
    @woodNfish

    The Palestinians parade their children through the streets in bomb vests teaching and encouraging them to blow themselves up while murdering innocent people and Jew.

    No doubt you get that from the impostors propaganda who claim its because they are ‘Jewish’ the Palestinians dont like their occupiers and oppressors. My did you believe the Afrikaner boer racist who claimed blacks wanted to drive the whites into the sea during apartheid era in South Africa?

    • 回复: @woodNfish
  151. woodNfish 说:
    @Blake

    取下你的眼罩。 巴勒斯坦人不是圣人。 亚西尔·阿拉法特(Yasser Arafat)是恐怖屠夫,他将坐在轮椅上的美国人扔到船上淹死。 如果您想查找,网络上会记录穿着炸弹背心在街上游行的儿童。

    • 回复: @Art
  152. schmenz 说:
    @biz

    biz,

    如果不是犹太复国主义疯子的驱逐、没收和谋杀的残暴政策,就不会有穆斯林的反弹。 在种族清洗者到来之前,1948 年之前的巴勒斯坦是一个不同的地方。

    至于你的第二段,把这一切告诉耶路撒冷的拉丁族长(他们有一个网站)。 也许他们可以帮助指导您了解现实情况。

    • 回复: @FLgeezer
  153. Art 说:
    @woodNfish

    The Palestinians parade their children through the streets in bomb vests teaching and encouraging them to blow themselves up while murdering innocent people and Jew.

    After all that the Jew have done in Palestine – it is astounding how they can turn themselves into being the victims of the Palestinians.

    犹太人有多么肮脏不诚实的头脑——他们没有道德良心​​——时期。

  154. @Boris

    他们都是大屠杀的卑鄙小人。 邪恶是邪恶的,它没有等级。

    • 回复: @Boris
  155. Art 说:
    @woodNfish

    新的 (巴勒斯坦) 如果您想查找,网络上会记录穿着炸弹背心在街上游行的儿童。

    Really – when in the last ten years has a Palestinian child killed a Jew using a bomb vest.

    What month in the last ten years has an Israeli NOT murdered a Palestinian child?

    What a Jew jerk you are!

    • 同意: Kiza
  156. @Boris

    Oh, I agree she is a scumbag . She should be deported to Tel Aviv. But I was pointing out the hypocrisy so common among The Tribe.

  157. schmenz 说:
    @Boris

    “真的没有人关心这件事了。”

    我想,那么,我们不重要的人仍然需要关心它。

  158. @Philip Giraldi

    ”。 . . 这是故意沉没船并杀死船上所有人的企图。”

    没事

    攻击的集中性质——涉及空中和地面部队——证明这绝非“偶然”。 还有水中求生装备的机枪扫射呢?! . . .

    当然,海军历史上充满了错误的攻击。 二战期间,潜艇USS SEAWOLF被驱逐舰USS ROWELL击沉。 来自皇家方舟号的剑鱼鱼雷轰炸机错误地袭击了位于俾斯麦附近的轻型巡洋舰谢菲尔德号。 但这些都是战斗环境下的真正错误。

    犹太复国主义实体对自由的攻击没有任何“错误”。 . . .

    • 回复: @Ace
  159. juster 说:
    @geokat62

    The anti-Semitism throughout these comments is not exactly hidden. It’s everywhere. It’s not even mainly about Israel or Zionism, and it’s not of the “informed critique” of a small group variety, it’s just crazed hate-filled ranting. Look at the nutjob above calling me “Little Jew” and the other poster comparing Jews to vermin, and the one who said we should all be incarcerated… etc. Totally pointless talking to these people. So, no, when I say “anti-Semitic” that’s exactly what I mean. I certainly wish you were correct though. As for the articles you mention, I have read Mearsheimer and Walt only. I found it about 50% convincing.

    • 回复: @Art
    , @geokat62
  160. Svigor 说:

    奇怪的是,当人们形容你丑陋、落后、恶魔、嗜血杀手等时,你往往会有点防御性。 不知道这怎么可能发生。

    Funny how when you’re impenetrable to criticism and have no intention of doing the right thing, you have to leaven someone’s actual criticism (“ugly, backward culture”) with lies (demons, bloodthirsty killers, etc.).

  161. Svigor 说:

    此外,犹太人世代以来一直在对白人文化进行带有倾向性、敌意的批判,白人都排着队说他们有多爱犹太人。 你所谓的联系就这么多。

  162. @5371

    “You really think Israel would have dared to attack a Soviet ship?”

    如果以色列袭击了一艘俄罗斯船只,那么苏联总理阿列克谢·柯西金可能会对以色列造成重大伤害。

  163. Svigor 说:

    大体上,犹太人因其个性特征而难以接受批评(他们的民族中心主义在这里最为突出)。 他们事后的借口(“你叫我们名字”)只是站不住脚的借口。

    “我要继续偷窃,因为你叫我小偷”并没有真正洗白。

    • 同意: Kiza
  164. Svigor 说:

    Americans don’t care because it’s an event from 50 years ago and the evidence that Israel attacked the Liberty intentionally is extremely flimsy.

    以为你在那里谈论大屠杀。

    It would be nice for Jews and anti-Semites of the more reasonable and intelligent, non-raving lunatic variety to be able to discuss things, but I guess that’s too high of an expectation.

    没有一个犹太人永远不会像精神病的反犹太主义者那样狡猾地控制叙事。

    取下你的眼罩。 巴勒斯坦人不是圣人。 亚西尔·阿拉法特(Yasser Arafat)是恐怖屠夫,他将坐在轮椅上的美国人扔到船上淹死。 如果您想查找,网络上会记录穿着炸弹背心在街上游行的儿童。

    当犹太人加入他们以通过左翼专制的“民权”法律时,黑人并不是圣人。 黑人现在更不圣人了,但这里有犹太人,仍然站在他们一边,在媒体上粉饰他们等等。

    Remove the beams from your own eyes, Jews.

    • 回复: @Boris
  165. Svigor 说:

    什么种族灭绝?犹太人比以往任何时候都多?
    我不是否认 CC 集中营,也不是否认大规模死亡,只是否认它是最终解决方案的说法,因为这被现实所掩盖。犹太复国主义宣传使他们的掠夺成为可能。

    You don’t seem to understand. The Holocaust is a Holy Narrative. You can’t go denying this part or that. Either the whole thing is Holy and Revered, or none of it is.

  166. Svigor 说:

    The anti-Semitism throughout these comments is not exactly hidden. It’s everywhere. It’s not even mainly about Israel or Zionism, and it’s not of the “informed critique” of a small group variety, it’s just crazed hate-filled ranting. Look at the nutjob above calling me “Little Jew” and the other poster comparing Jews to vermin, and the one who said we should all be incarcerated… etc. Totally pointless talking to these people. So, no, when I say “anti-Semitic” that’s exactly what I mean. I certainly wish you were correct though. As for the articles you mention, I have read Mearsheimer and Walt only. I found it about 50% convincing.

    我跳过艺术的评论。 这告诉你什么?

    至于说服你,我只想说,如果说服犹太人停止他们的渎职行为是唯一的解决方案,我们就完蛋了。 这种类型的人(即西南亚的心理特征)不会那样工作。 你施加力量让他们停下来,期间。 当其他团体强迫他们时,犹太人会停下来,而不是之前。 没有任何角度可以让犹太人相信任何事情。 等待犹太人的良心发挥作用就是在等待一些并不真正起作用的东西。

    • 回复: @utu
    , @juster
  167. OLD JEW 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Obviously you are an idiot.

    Nevertheless the insult Hasba-RATS (if you invented it)
    is ingenious.

  168. anonymous • 免责声明 说:

    https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1385281

    https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1385017

    https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1385144

    https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1385289

    https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1386099 @jacque sheete

    https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1386639

    迪莫纳的狐蝠:六日战争中苏联的核赌博 作者:伊莎贝拉·吉诺 (Isabella Ginor)、吉迪恩·雷梅兹 (Gideon Remez)

    https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1385721 (h/t)

    “在 1967 年阵亡将士纪念日周末,当总司令得知苏联总理阿列克谢·柯西金警告说:“如果以色列开始军事行动,苏联将向受攻击方提供帮助时,克里姆斯一家是 LBJ 牧场的客人。 。” 在等待国务院起草对以色列总理列维·埃什科尔的回应时,约翰逊和克里姆斯夫妇开车到邻居家,在那里一名助手带来了消息供总统审查。 Halsell 描述了 LBJ 在 Krims 公司期间对信息所做的更改(以解释美国对未决冲突的看法:...

    > 约翰逊在柯西金的提示下,在亚瑟和玛蒂尔德·克里姆在场的情况下写给列维·埃斯克霍尔的笔记表明……特拉维夫可以先发制人,前提是可以诱导美国公众相信以色列是受害者而不是侵略者,这是一种策略完全符合博弈论。 ”

    ” . . .groundbreaking history of the Six-Day War in 1967 radically changes our understanding of that conflict, casting it as a crucial arena of Cold War intrigue that has shaped the Middle East to this day. The authors, award-winning Israeli journalists and historians, have investigated newly available documents and testimonies from the former Soviet Union, cross-checked them against Israeli and Western sources, and arrived at fresh and startling conclusions.

    与之前的解释相反,Ginor 和 Remez 的书表明,六日战争是苏阿联合策略以挑起以色列进行先发制人攻击的结果。 作者揭示了苏联如何收到以色列的秘密信息,表明以色列尽管官方含糊不清,但即将获得核武器。 苏联决心在以色列制造原子弹之前摧毁它的核计划,然后开始准备战争——早在莫斯科指责以色列的进攻意图之前,这是危机的公开触发因素。

    Ginor and Remez’s startling account details how the Soviet-Arab onslaught was to be unleashed once Israel had been drawn into action and was branded as the aggressor. The Soviets had submarine-based nuclear missiles poised for use against Israel in case it already possessed and tried to use an atomic device, and the USSR prepared and actually began a marine landing on Israel’s shores backed by strategic bombers and fighter squadrons. They sent their most advanced, still-secret aircraft, the MiG-25 Foxbat, on provocative sorties over Israel’s Dimona nuclear complex to prepare the planned attack on it, and to scare Israel into making the first strike. It was only the unpredicted devastation of Israel’s response that narrowly thwarted the Soviet design.”

    正如贾斯特告诉用友,

    “I can’t speak for the elites but it would seem that no, they have not learned the lessons of history, except insofar as Israel does have nuclear weapons and so won’t be genocided without taking everybody else with them. ”

    犹太人偷了核武器 正大光明;
    当苏联人试图帮世界一个忙并轰炸迪莫纳(就像以色列轰炸奥西里克)时,34 名美国水手付出了生命的代价,而犹太人只会变得更加傲慢和无法无天。

    犹太人无视国际法 正大光明;
    and Jews refuse to sign Nonproliferation Treaty ‘cuz Jews are so fair and square;
    and when, in 1995, the states in the ME bargain away their rights to develop nuclear weapons on the promise that a conference will be held to negotiate the entire region — including Israel — as a Nuclear Weapons Free Zone, Israel balks and USA supports them in their intransigence, and in the Jewish mind, it’s all 光明正大。
    这是 正大光明 犹太人可能会窃取核武器并拒绝为他们负责,因为毕竟犹太人成功地维持了本世纪最大的骗局,他们和他们独特地被种族灭绝,并且由于这种虚假事件,犹太人需要蔑视规范文明,同时对其他国家造成广泛的死亡和破坏,并蓄意破坏其他国家的经济和治理,这些国家符合以色列故意破坏的国际准则。

    Laws don’t apply to Jews.
    因为出于某种深不可测的原因,犹太人——那些天真和正直的典范; 世界上最道德的军队——已经被迫害了forevah。

    • 回复: @utu
    , @juster
  169. Art 说:
    @juster

    Look at the nutjob above calling me “Little Jew”

    Sorry Little Jew jester – but you are a little lemming hasbara underling working to propagate Big Jew lies. Those lies are causing much hurt in this world.

    这让你成为一个坏人——不值得尊重。

    If you want to help your tribe – go after the Big Jew – and do NOT repeat their hurtful big lies.

    p.s. With that said – I bet you are a cute little lemming.

    p.s. Please stay away from the cliffs little one – we do not want to see anyone hurt.

  170. RobinG 说:
    @anarchyst

    你写道:“事实上,被拘留的德国平民虽然是平民,但被定义为‘解除武装的敌方战斗人员’,因此日内瓦公约的规则不适用于他们。”

    A “disarmed enemy combatant” would be a POW, to whom Geneva Convention rules most certainly apply. Is this typical of the quality of your analysis and writing?

    • 回复: @anarchyst
  171. Boris 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    I am an American and Americans don’t care about The USS Liberty. The only reason the incident is remembered at all is because anti-Semites and others with an axe to grind keep flogging it.

    • 回复: @Ace
    , @OilcanFloyd
  172. Boris 说:
    @bjondo

    没有多少回复

    And yet so much more than you deserve.

  173. Boris 说:
    @Chris Mallory

    Evil is evil, it does not come in degrees.

    Why are you trying to clean up Hitler’s image? What’s in it for you? Be specific.

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  174. Boris 说:
    @Svigor

    专制的“公民权利”法。

    有人对他们现在必须共享饮水机感到生气。

  175. utu 说:
    @anonymous

    I do not trust Ginor & remed book. It’s mostly BS.

  176. utu 说:
    @Svigor

    “等待犹太人的良心发挥作用”取决于一个错误的前提,即存在良心。

    • 回复: @juster
  177. juster 说:
    @Svigor

    我花了一点时间试图弄清楚你如何将自己与@art 区分开来,但我认为这只是你选择如何扼杀英语的修辞风格。 你们都以同样的偏执、愚蠢、功能性文盲的方式概括所有犹太人,最终都希望基于你们奇怪且毫无根据的阴谋论对我们所有人施加暴力(或可能是死亡和毁灭)。 所以,很快就会意识到,谁在乎你的想法呢? 或者写。 我对左右两边对犹太文化、以色列政策等的知情的、知识分子的批评持开放态度,但与不知情的怪人交谈? 我会通过。

    • 同意: Boris
    • 回复: @Art
    , @Talha
  178. juster 说:
    @anonymous

    “Laws don’t apply to Jews.”

    Then explain this:

    ” 美国唯一可用的相关数据是一些监狱的统计数据; 但那里的犹太人参与犯罪似乎比其他地方更低,因为更危险的罪犯被送进监狱,而犹太人通常犯下的罪行较轻。 在 1920-29 年的十年期间,平均每年有 6,846 名犹太人在美国被监禁——占 1.74 名被定罪罪犯总数的 394,080%。 由于当时犹太人占人口的 3.5%,因此他们在更严重的罪行中所占的份额(被判处监禁)约为总比例的 50%。 纽约和洛杉矶的监禁数字证实了这些发现。 在 20 世纪初期,犹太人占纽约市人口的 17-18%; 犹太囚犯的比例在 9.2 年为 1902%,9.4 年为 1903%,14.7 年为 1904%。 1947 年,犹太人占纽约州监狱人口的 4.7%,约占人口总数的四分之一。 在洛杉矶,虽然犹太人在人口中的比例从 5.8 年的 1933% 上升到 11.9 年的 1947%,但他们在 15 个犯罪集团中的 18 个——包括谋杀、入室盗窃、抢劫、袭击和性犯罪——中的份额从 2.8% 不等到 3.9%。 加拿大的情况也类似。 绝大多数加拿大犹太人居住的魁北克省的犹太人口占总数的 2.5%,而在过去三十年中,他们在监狱人口中的份额从未超过 1%。”

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  179. Ace 说:
    @Orville H. Larson

    那天早上,一架以色列侦察机对自由号进行了仔细检查。 他们知道。

    以色列人不是声称他们把这艘船误认为是埃及的马匹运输工具吗? 当他们在为生存而战时,他们为这样一个无关紧要的目标投入了大量稀缺资源,包括机枪射击救生筏。

  180. Ace 说:
    @Boris

    We keep flogging it for much the same reason we keep flogging Pearl Harbor. When our warships are attacked by foreign military forces we remember.

    • 回复: @Boris
  181. bjondo 说:

    一些犹太人/以色列的黑色行动/假旗:

    uss liberty, the king david hotel bombing, achille lauro, entebbe, AMIA, 9-11, harriri

  182. @Talha

    你好塔哈,

    小丑有一个悠久的传统,他是使用幽默的手段向权力说真话的人,以免被视为威胁并因此保持头脑清醒。 纪伯伦笔下的疯子也说真话,并逃脱了因“疯狂”而被追究的责任。

    我向你致以最良好的祝愿。

    • 回复: @anonymous
  183. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @juster

    以色列经常将自己正在做的事情归咎于他人。 它因拒绝接受客观的审查或批评而臭名昭著。 它经常拒绝国际调查人员对其指控的审查,即使是在联合国安理会授权的情况下。 相反,它上演自我放纵的自我调查行为,旨在产生无罪宣传。 结果,以色列政府发言人——曾经被认为代表着犹太学者一直享有盛誉的智力完整性——现在除了那些致力于犹太复国主义事业的人之外,根本没有可信度。 与此同时,区域和国际对法治,尤其是人道主义法的尊重已大大降低。 这是一个特别的讽刺。

    人道主义法和战争法可以说是大西洋文明至高无上的道德产物。 犹太律师对两者的制作做出了不成比例的贡献。 由此产生的法律原则旨在阻止欧洲犹太人和其他少数民族长期遭受的各种伤害和不公正,并保护被占领人口免受占领者的迫害。 这两个目标都与当代巴勒斯坦非常相关。 然而,很难找到任何正当程序原则、几项日内瓦公约或纽伦堡审判在圣地未被系统地违反。 犯罪行为的例子包括大规模谋杀、法外处决、酷刑、未经指控的拘留、拒绝医疗、吞并和殖民被占领土、非法征用土地、种族清洗和对平民的集体惩罚,包括拆除他们的房屋,系统地减少他们的基础设施,以及整个地区的去发展和贫困。 这些罪行与改写国际法以允许其传统上禁止的行为的一致努力有关,实际上将可能使正义的原则铭记于心。

    正如以色列国防军(IDF)法务部前负责人所说:

    “如果你做某事足够长,世界就会接受它。 整个国际法现在都基于这样一种观念,即今天被禁止的行为如果被足够多的国家执行就可以被允许。 . . . 国际法在违反中取得进步。=

    他的一位同事通过指出以下内容扩展了这一概念:

    “西方国家越来越多地将起源于以色列的原则应用于自己在阿富汗和伊拉克等地的非传统冲突,那么这些原则成为国际法的重要组成部分的机会就越大。”

    这些对伊拉克和阿富汗的提及强调了美国,曾经是受规则约束的国际秩序的主要拥护者,在多大程度上跟随以色列以权宜之计取代了法律原则,作为其与外国人民互动的中央监管者。 先发制人战争的不道德的权宜之计是以色列在美国新保守主义心理中的移植。

    Chas W. Freeman, Jr. 大使(USFS,退休)
    http://chasfreeman.net/israel-palestine-the-consequences-of-the-conflict/

  184. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @NoseytheDuke

    练习 滑稽演员 作为一个用幽默的手段向权力说真话的人,不被视为威胁,因此保持头脑清醒。

    更加公正 -

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=juster

    1) 动词 – 肆无忌惮地获得、拥有或获得材料、货物、服务或财产。 为谋取私利而压迫、压制或利用个人或个人情况的不合情理的行为。 也通俗地称为“把某人搞砸”。

    2) verb – To wait until the very end to charge group lunches with a credit card, and take all the cash that has been placed by others for the bill. The ‘justering’ occurs twofold; first, there is usually extra cash in the form of change or overpayment, since many people typically only have \$20 bills. The ‘juster’ keeps this extra change. Second, the ‘juster’ accumulates airline mile points so that he/she (mostly a ‘he’) can fly to New York, free of charge.

    3) adj——低效率的堡垒; 政府的、官僚的效率。

    4) 名词——拥有虚拟或实物财产的人; 这类人可能会使用工作服务器空间来存储 MP3 歌曲文件,或者在 Costco 货物到达后在他的文件柜中存放食物。 很多时候,这可能以“免费加载”的形式出现。

    • 回复: @juster
  185. Boris 说:
    @Ace

    We keep flogging it for much the same reason we keep flogging Pearl Harbor. When our warships are attacked by foreign military forces we remember.

    你刚刚证明了我的观点。 没有人继续鞭打珍珠港。 没有人再对日本生气了。 那你为什么像以色列人一样生气? 好吧,你讨厌犹太人。 没有其他解释。

    • 回复: @bjondo
    , @Chris Mallory
  186. @Boris

    Lots of people care, and rightly so, since Israel was never punished, and the Israel Lobby has a lock on our politicians.

    问题是自由轰炸被掩盖了,许多美国人不知道。 对于大多数支持以色列的美国人来说,对自由爆炸事件和以色列游说团进行彻底、公开和诚实的审查将使以色列及其支持者处于截然不同的境地。 在那次讨论之后,我不想成为以色列说客或以色列支持者。 我还猜测离我家最近的犹太社区中心会拆除以色列国旗,升起美国国旗,不再公开为以色列辩护。

    鲍里斯,如果你是美国人,你就不是美国人。

    • 回复: @Boris
  187. 没有人再对日本生气了。 那你为什么像以色列人一样生气? 好吧,你讨厌犹太人。 没有其他解释。

    Not a compelling argument, Boris.

    Japan is, essentially, an occupied nation; like Germany, Japan is a vassal state where US forces are still encamped — and frequently commit humiliating crimes against the Japanese people, especially women.

    Moreover, unlike Israelis, the Japanese are not insinuating themselves in the US political system; don’t spy in an egregious fashion on US institutions, corporations and individuals; don’t presume to suborn US political representatives.

    2015 年,日本首相在国会联席会议上发表讲话。 他对“在二战中丧生的美国人民”表示哀悼。

    In contrast, in his address to Congress, at which the representatives of the American people disposed themselves like pop-in-jays and debased themselves shamefully, Benjamin Netanyahu issued not apologies but demands that the American people continue to pay tribute to the Jewish State and guarantee its “security” against the threat of rock-throwing Palestinian teen-agers.

    Numerous Jewish writers and self-identified scholars produce one-after-another of books excoriating the American people for failing to rescue Jewish people in Europe in WWII. (Never mind that Jews were at the forefront of starting a war that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions of innocent European and Russian civilians; and also that Jewish actors, i.e. Henry Morgenthau, Jr., funneled money to the person and government responsible for more deaths than any other in all of history, Josef Stalin’s Bolshevik/Communist Russia; and also that the same Morgenthau used the tax dollars of the American people to subsidize the settlement of Jewish people in the United States.
    埃莉诺·罗斯福 (Eleanor Roosevelt) 利用她的影响力在众多美国大学和其他机构获得专业职位,并经常取代担任这些职位的美国人。 怀曼研究所召开了一次会议,讨论了这些情况。)

    Several more differences between regard for Japanese vs regard for Jews:

    — 日本的说客已正式注册为外国政府在美国的代理人; 以色列的游说者拒绝遵守这一基本要求(诺塔好处, juster, @187.) Grant Smith has extensively documented Israel’s refusal to- and machinations to evade- registering its lobbyists as foreign agents see, for example,

    and
    http://forward.com/news/4064/leaders-fear-probe-will-force-pro-israel-lobby-to/

    ——日本没有向美国纳税人勒索数十亿美元; 以色列有。

    ——日本没有推倒美国公民然后否认对他们的死亡负责; 以色列有
    https://electronicintifada.net/content/photostory-israeli-bulldozer-driver-murders-american-peace-activist/4449

    — Japan does not, on an on-going pattern, use US money and weapons to kill innocent civilians; Israel does, using proscribed weapons such as white phosphorus to kill Palestinian civilians on lands that Israel has stolen or is stealing.

    Jews, apparently uniquely, identify themselves with a body of real estate which they claim was given to them by god. Juster embraces that identification. Benjamin Netanyahu identifies himself as the leader of “the Jewish people throughout the world.” Jews identify themselves in international terms, i.e. in their March 1933 declaration of war on Germany, Jews called themselves “International Jewry.” So associating “Israel” with “Jews” is a meme that Jews and their leaders seem to have created and support.

    • 回复: @Boris
    , @Mark Green
    , @juster
  188. utu 说:
    @juster

    You think that philanthropy is a sign of conscience? You are really simpleminded.

  189. bjondo 说:
    @Boris

    pearl harbor is remembered by americans not jewry.
    america because of pearl harbor destroyed japan and now controls japan
    jewry/israel control america. the wars now being started by the jews are fought by america are for the jews.

  190. Boris 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Boris, if you are an American, you aren’t much of an American.

    The guy that wants to punish and expel people from the US because he doesn’t like their opinions is lecturing me on what it means to be an American? Priceless.

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Chris Mallory
  191. Rehmat 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Zionists’ claim of Jewish expulsion from Muslim land is as ridiculous as their claim that Bible’s G-d promised Palestine to Jews. In fact, the god-father of Zionism, Theodor Herzl wanted to establish his Jewish state in Patagonia, the very fertile province in Argentina and Chile.

    Which shall we choose, Palestine or Argentine? Argentina is, by its nature, one of the richest countries in Earth, with an immense territory, scarce population and moderate climate. The Argentine government would have the greatest interest to cede to us a part of its (Patagonia) territory. The infiltration of Jews that is presently taking place these has not been to their liking, naturally, and we will have to explain to Argentina the radical difference that exists with the new Jewish emigration,” wrote Pinsker in 1896.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/03/21/israeli-tourists-attacked-in-argentine/

  192. Boris 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Japan is, essentially, an occupied nation; like Germany

    This is laughably wrong.

    别介意犹太人站在发动战争的最前沿

    啊,又是愚蠢的历史反犹主义。 如果你们不在讨论开始十秒钟就开始谈论犹太人的阴谋,也许人们会更关心自由号? 你可能无法帮助自己。

  193. Rehmat 说:
    @dahoit

    Jewish Holy Talmud command hatred toward Jesus, his mother Mary and Christianity in general. Islam’ the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) or Muslims are not mentioned in Talmud by names because it was written by rabbis at a time when Islam did not appear in Arabia. However, Zionists’ hatred toward Muslims is based on Talmud’s hatred toward the entire non-Jewish (Goyim) people.

    没有西方商店出售塔木德的英文翻译,因为西方被洗脑的基督徒不应该知道真正的反基督教教义。 以色列历史学家 Israel Shahak 博士在他的杰作《犹太宗教、犹太历史》中记录了犹太人对基督徒的宗教和传统仇恨。

    Professor David Hillel Gelernter (Yale University) in an article, entitled, “Why should a Jew care whether Christianity Lives or Dies?”, published at Israel’s advocacy magazine “First Things” on March 24, 2015, said: “I argued last month that Pope Francis ought to see the reconversion of Europe (eradication of Muslim immigration) as his most important task. Surely he agrees that European Christianity is in deep trouble. Surely he does not believe that Christianity no longer matters to Europe, or can no longer be compelling to Europeans. How can he ignore a catastrophe on his doorstep?,” Gelernter said.

    “Jews must acknowledge this truth: Christianity is a dialect of Judaism. It is ours – Jews must own it, proudly,” Gelernter added.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/03/26/christianity-jews-gift-to-the-world/

  194. @Boris

    Boris, you aren’t much of an American, if you are an American at all.

    我对效忠于另一个国家的人完全没有问题,他们是腐败、侵略和欺诈的源头,被严厉惩罚和剥夺公民身份。 罗森伯格夫妇得到了他们应得的,当前的收成也应如此。 你认为这些叛徒只是发表意见,这一事实说明任何人都需要了解你。

  195. @Boris

    我不是要清理希特勒的形象。 希特勒是一个失败者,也是一个邪恶的人。 我指出丘吉尔和内塔尼亚胡也是邪恶的,否则就是虚伪的高度。 这三个人都属于历史的粪堆。

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
  196. @Boris

    I want to expel everyone from the US whose paternal ancestors were not American citizens in 1800. My ancestors founded this nation and I will lecture on what it means to be an American, namely that you be descended from the British Protestants who founded this nation. Every one else is a dirty immigrant that the American nation would be better off without.

    • 回复: @Boris
  197. @Boris

    Funny, most real Americans I know remember Pearl Harbor and the Alamo as well. But then we are real Americans not dirty immigrants.

  198. bjondo 说:

    the trained shekel corp jew is taught to lie, deny, pause a bit, repeat lie
    历史、真相要被歪曲、扭曲、否定
    diseased minds from a diseased belief system. lies for brain cells.
    generation to generation to generation

  199. Art 说:
    @juster

    I spent a moment or so trying to figure out how exactly you would differentiate yourself from @art, but figured it’s only in the rhetorical style of how you choose to butcher the English language. You both generalize about all Jews in the same bigoted, idiotic, functionally illiterate fashion, and both end up wishing violence (or possibly death and destruction) 我们所有人都基于你的怪异和 毫无根据的阴谋论。

    So juster – follower, lemming, hasbaraist, propagandist, conspirator, thug Little Jew.

    You are one poor sick Little Jew – “so everybody wants to kill you” – little Palestinian children and anybody who rhetorically gives you a hard time. If you were a Gentile – we could say that you have a guilty conscience – but you are a tribal Jew, so that is impossible.

    我应该为你指责我想杀了你而生气——但我知道你是一个沉浸在犹太人文化偏执中的犹太人——所以你被原谅了。 我从来没有呼吁过任何人的死亡——甚至是犹太人。 我是一个相信这一点的基督徒 所有的生命都是神圣的。

    Little Jew juster, you are still living in 1967 when Israel could do no wrong and you could get away with your obnoxious lies (even I support Israel then). But you’ll have squandered the good will of humanity. Your conspiracy against Palestine and the Western world is naked.

    聪明的小犹太人——艺术

    • 回复: @juster
  200. @Chris Mallory

    just curious, Chris Mallory:

    What nation’s or world leader would you rank as 不能 在历史的粪堆上?

    Have you ever thought about a point-for-point comparison of, say, Hitler and the Netanyahu crime family (Benzion was even more psychopathic than Bibi, if you can imagine that).

    Someone posted this video on one of Norman Finkelstein’s articles —

    Ofir’s comparison of Jewish zionists to the brutality of the Nazis was emphasized.

    But if you examine what Ofir said about Jewish activities in Palestine 从1948开始 (I would argue that Jews started oppressing Palestinians almost half-a-century earlier), and compare them point-for-point with actions Nazis carried out against Jews, over a shorter period; remembering that Nazis acted in the context of a war, and that the German people were being carpet bombed throughout most of that hot war, then the scales of justice take on a different slant.

    Here’s what Ofir said:

    “是的,你可能听说过代尔亚辛大屠杀,它经常在教科书中讲授,但被描绘成极端分子犯下的失常行为。 . . 在《独立宣言》之前,尽管那些极端分子的领导人成为了我们的总理。

    但是,我们在 1948 年犯下的数十起其他大屠杀,确实是由以色列国防军犯下的,那又如何呢? 你有没有读过 Al-Aleuma [sp?],它显然比 Deir Yassin 更糟糕? Ya'aron 刚刚在 Haaretz 上写过它。 . . [指蒙多维斯 http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/zionism-is-not-really-secular/ , although the title seems the opposite of Ofir’s later statement that “zionism is not Judaism”]

    “When you sum up the systematic executions; many gang-rape cases, which have been slow to be uncovered because they involve shame on both fronts; the crushing of children’s skulls with sticks; the ripping out of foetuses from their mother’s wombs; all and many more perpetrated by Us. The good guys. The cultured elite. Often in situations which presented no danger. Just out of pure, gratuitous sadism and hate for the Arabs.

    然后你可能会开始意识到,以色列并不是真正在为生存而战,一场精英和先进文化的战争,在落后的阿拉伯亚文化的坏邻居中。

    Let me put it out there, clearly and directly: We have been acting like animals** 野蛮程度确实可以、应该并且已经被比作我们喜欢憎恨的人,纳粹,他们的残忍应该为我们开脱。 正如戈尔达·迈耶 (Golda Meier) 告诉以色列议会成员阿洛尼 (Aloni) 那样,“在大屠杀之后,犹太人可以做任何事情。 ”
    不!
    一定不行。
    We’ve used this excuse with those words or others, together with the systematic coverup of our own cruelties since the start. And because we have largely succumbed to our own propaganda in this, we have failed to perceive the historical trace which if followed honestly will show us that we are essentially at the same place as before: still subjugating, still massacring, still torturing.

    This is not a chain of events forced upon us as an inevitable consequence of trying to survive; this is, nonetheless, a predictable outcome of our inherent state religion, which is not Judaism, as many mistakenly think, but rather zionism. ”

    所以,克里斯·马洛里——如果列出希特勒和纳粹的真实、指控和想象的罪行——大规模强奸、用棍子砸孩子的头——在上下文中和随着时间的推移,与犹太复国主义者的罪行并行在巴勒斯坦(以及世界其他地方,即自由;暗杀伊朗核科学家等),也在他们的背景下,正如 Ofir 所建议的——也就是说,他们不是为了生存,而是出于虐待狂——什么平衡是由正义的天平证明的?

    -

    ** I disagree with the comparison to animals. Animals do not reflect. Animals do not have an Office of War Plans, or a Rational Institute, god help us, where the calories necessary to sustain life but not to thrive are calculated and meted out. Rather, we are with Virgil and Dante at the gate of Hell —

    “Here you must give up all irresolution;
    All cowardice must here be put to death.

    “我们来到了我跟你说过的地方
    在那里你将看到满载悲伤的人们,
    那些失去了智慧之善的人。 =

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Chris Mallory
  201. @Philip Giraldi

    I recall researching this years ago. The British ship in question bore little or no resemblance to the Liberty. The Liberty was just one of a large class of ships that would have been a common sight in the med. The liberty was painted Haze Gray as all US Ships did and had an American flag prominently displayed.

    The Israeli planes came in close, that is, in gun range and were flying subsonic. That means they could clearly see that they were strafing an American ship.

  202. @SolontoCroesus

    谢谢你,索隆托。 这是一个非常有见地和简洁的评论。 Grant Smith 的简短演讲也很出色。 干得好!

    Like it or not, the extraordinary role played by US-based Zionists is in a class by itself. No honest person will attempt to deny that fact.

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
  203. @juster

    these elites are hurting us and leading to a whole new wave of anti-Semitism.

    稍微精确一点就行了。

    据我了解——根据我在大约 8 或 9 年前第一次被称为反犹主义者时的研究,反犹主义 =“仇恨犹太人” just because they are Jews.”

    一旦因果关系出现,就像在各种犹太精英“做伤害我们的事情”的活动中一样,那么反应就不是完全反犹太主义,而是抵制、拒绝或反对某些被认为对我们有害的行为。另一组。

    That the reaction is expressed toward a larger set of the group with which the offending elites are associated is a kind of displacement, and a natural one at that: If resistors could directly attack the Offending Elites they would do so; they can’t, so they attack rank-and-file Jews.

    这并不像乍一看那样邪恶:如果精英们不能不受惩罚地这样做,他们就不会做出冒犯他人的事情。

    美国和以色列的国家政策也是如此,攻击小家伙,试图迫使一个国家的领导层投降。 这正是盟军在地毯式轰炸德国(和日本)运动中的想法;

    这正是乔治·H·W·布什的团队在1991年进攻伊拉克并撤出而不是前往巴格达直接推翻萨达姆时的想法:他们“99%地确定”伊拉克人民会推翻萨达姆。 如果他们不这样做,美国就会对伊拉克人民实施制裁,导致 XNUMX 万伊拉克人死亡,其中一半是儿童。

    The same tactic — beating up the little guy in an attempt to overthrow the leadership — is used by Israel to punish Palestinians, and by the USA and Israel in an attempt to overthrow Iran’s Islamic government.

    这是一种懦夫的策略——殴打小家伙,因为大卡胡纳受到了很好的保护,可能会有效地反击——但这正是正在发生的事情。

    你的工作,你被如此卑鄙地称为“小犹太人”,就是把它吸起来,就像我与之交谈过的街头伊朗人在美国和以色列破坏他们的机会时被迫接受它一样创业,或事业,或家庭。
    您还可以努力改变精英的行为——以及围绕他们形成系统性螺旋的病态意识形态。 为了你好。

    Sorry juster, it’s not my job to pull your chestnuts out of the fire. I’m not particularly concerned what happens to you or to Jews in general.

    My concern is for the well-being of our children, our family, and my country, in that order.

    然而,我确实相信,正如 Fran Macadam 在别处指出的那样,“对美国有利的事情对犹太人也有好处;” 或者,稍微翻转一下:如果美国不辜负它所宣称的最高和最佳价值,那将引起所有人的共鸣。

    • 回复: @juster
    , @Boris
    , @RobinG
    , @Art
  204. @SolontoCroesus

    所有这些都让生活在充满敌意的犹太精英之下看起来很有吸引力,不是吗?

  205. anarchyst 说:
    @RobinG

    Problem is, they were not “enemy combatants” by any stretch of the imagination, but were ordinary civilians caught up in wartime…
    这些平民被当作战俘关押并受到胜利者的虐待,日内瓦公约的“规则”该死。
    在正常的《日内瓦公约》“规则”下,平民本来可以自生自灭,而不是被迫进入“集中营”看守(想到犯罪行为的监禁)。
    是的,犹太人在经营这些营地,对这些平民的残酷程度要远高于德国人对他们的残酷程度……
    Please read “An Eye For An Eye” by John Sack and “Other Losses”
    问候

  206. juster 说:
    @anonymous

    哈哈。 喜欢对我随机选择的手柄的分析。 但是工作机器上mp3的名词定义? 搞定了。

  207. juster 说:
    @Art

    嗯,老实说,听到这个我松了口气。

    正如我最初所说的那样……咳咳……对犹太精英的批评有很多。

    也许不对每个来的犹太人进行个性化可能会帮助我们真正进行对话? 但这需要表面上的礼貌,而不是幼稚的辱骂。

  208. juster 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    我喜欢这些关于我从未说过的话的冗长而毫无意义的谩骂。 请继续。 想想你在破坏没人读过的冗长评论方面的强度是很有趣的。

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Sam Shama
  209. juster 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    好吧,这个至少有 50% 的合理性。 对此表示赞赏。

  210. alexander 说:

    亲爱的菲尔,

    感谢您的另一篇好文章。

    当我们选择时,我们的第一修正案权利,即大声疾呼,反对或反对我们选择的权利,这意味着什么?

    这不是对自由人国家的最后一次袭击吗?

    了解对伊拉克人民(他们从未袭击过我们)使用的“压力姿势”是由以色列的酷刑者教给我们的,这是多么有趣。

    谁会想到大屠杀的孩子们会指挥这种虐待行为的词汇,并通过使用他们来出口然后勒索美国以背叛我们的价值观?

    我不知道这是好消息还是坏消息,那个启示传播的“滞后”只有十二年。

    与拉文事件或美国自由号事件相比。 也许我们正在加快披露的步伐?

    我们需要问责制......我们需要快速......这已经太过分了。

    然而,我不会请求我们的战略空军司令部“核弹”AIPAC 会议中心……

    一个很好的“地堡破坏者”就可以了。

    够了。

  211. @Mark Green

    谢谢马克。

    回复:鲍里斯的——

    你刚刚证明了我的观点。 没有人继续鞭打珍珠港。 没有人再对日本生气了。 那你为什么像以色列人一样生气? 好吧,你讨厌犹太人。 没有其他解释。

    像鲍里斯这样的比较是如此危险。

    为了报复日本对珍珠港的轰炸,美国向日本投下了两颗原子弹——其中包括对日本土地和人民的毁灭性行动。

    因此,根据鲍里斯的逻辑,这不是“仇恨犹太人”的情况。
    这是一个绕过以色列的地狱轰炸的问题。
    然后“没有人会再对[剩下的]以色列感到生气了。”

    • 回复: @Boris
  212. Boris 说:
    @Chris Mallory

    我的祖先建立了这个国家,我将讲授成为美国人意味着什么

    是的,但没人在乎你的想法。 你的血统不会给你任何特殊的权力或对宪法的否决权。

    • 回复: @Chris Mallory
  213. Boris 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    As I understand it — based on my research from the first time I was called an antisemite, about 8 or 9 years ago, antisemitism = “hatred of Jews just because they are Jews.”

    一旦因果关系出现,就像在各种犹太精英“做伤害我们的事情”的活动中一样,那么反应就不是完全反犹太主义,而是抵制、拒绝或反对某些被认为对我们有害的行为。另一组。

    当“被认为有害的行为”不存在或被夸大时,就会出现问题。 纵观历史,反犹太主义首先出现,并被用来证明其合理性的奇怪阴谋:血腥诽谤,锡安长老的协议。 反犹神话或多或少受到珍视并被视为福音。 因此,人们对否认大屠杀或最小化大屠杀的兴趣——“六百万人的谎言”是 20 世纪的血腥诽谤。

    因此,以色列所做的实际坏事——以平民为目标的迅速和对非法定居点的不负责任的制裁——这些都在洗牌中迷失了。 那些认为他们真的坚持以色列说内塔尼亚胡和希特勒一样糟糕的人实际上恰恰相反。 没有人听,尽管房间里回荡着。

    • 回复: @annamaria
  214. Talha 说:
    @juster

    Dear juster,

    伙计,人们一直对你无情。 我以为我这几天过得不好……哇! 好吧——所以看,我不知道你是否还在这里,但让我从一个合理的角度尝试一下。 一点背景; 我是穆斯林,不是以色列的朋友。 对我来说,这意味着政治实体,而不是居住在那里的个别犹太人。 在校园里,我们几乎要和犹太复国主义的混蛋打起来。 每个人都有自己的灵魂,为自己的观点和自己的行为负责; 一些对以色列最好的批评者是犹太人(乔姆斯基、亚当·科克什、艾米·古德曼、芬克尔斯坦等)。 似乎犹太人(一般来说)处于一种地堡心态,自二战以来一直如此,并以一种非常让人想起以前欧洲殖民入侵的方式在以色列定居。 那是一个巨大的误判。 人们正在关注巴勒斯坦正在发生的事情,任何了解这两个群体之间真实历史和权力差距的人都不会有意识地支持以色列正在做的事情。 尤其是当美国人民意识到许多外交政策的制定者都是犹太复国主义者(犹太人和基督徒)并且正在用他们的税收为这种不可持续的疯狂提供资金时。

    I abhor Jewish nationalism – but, then again, I likewise despise Turkish or Arab or any other ethnic nationalism that causes people to oppress others. My personal opinion is that (in the long term) for some semblance of justice, some third (somewhat neutral) party needs to have sovereignty over that area to administer it and provide safety and security for all involved because the bad blood between the two sides is too much – Turks, I don’t know, they have history there. Either that Jewish settlers stop building and settle into one geographic portion of the West Bank so that Palestinians can have some sort of contiguous territory that could comprise a viable true state (or protectorate or satellite of Jordan).

    至于犹太人被批评的其他一些事情:
    1) 成为“选民”的宗教观点——你知道,这永远不会让你受欢迎,尤其是当一些东正教拉比传统发表关于犹太人灵魂的方式与其他人不同和优越的情况时。
    2) Decadence – it does seem that a lot of the loss of morality does come from places like Hollywood and the entertainment industry which is top-heavy with Jewish people – specifically their elite. But then again, it is kind of bizarre because Orthodox Jews are very, very strict against sexual prurience – but they do not represent the elite. This is leading to a very real crisis in the traditional family structure- but some of it is scapegoating, there aren’t any Jews walking around with guns forcing Jimbo to watch porn or visit titty-bars.
    3)对金融市场的控制——毫无疑问,犹太人在这个领域也有不成比例的巨大影响——通常当事情进展顺利时,似乎没有人抱怨,但一旦事情受到关注,人们就会试图弄清楚发生了什么并注意银行是头重脚轻的特定人群。 在我这边,因为我是穆斯林,所以高利贷是一种诅咒,但似乎连基督徒也放弃了这种立场(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15235c.htm) 不久前,我们是最后一个坚持将其作为规范立场的人。
    4) 反犹太主义——每当有人合法地批评以色列政策等时,每个人都厌倦了被打得头破血流的比利俱乐部。最终,它不会有任何意义。

    无论如何,这些都是一些批评,我认为您可以提出自己的见解。 不确定我会回应,但也许其他人会回应。

    有些人说他们不在乎你和你的人会发生什么——我很关心。 对我来说,每个灵魂都是宝贵的,任何人都可以改变。 我什至想为那些可怕的犹太复国主义精英好。 最好的结果,也是我祈祷的结果,是他们为自己的所作所为忏悔,并利用他们巨大的财富和影响力来撤销他们多年来倡导的可怕政策。 如果这是不可能的,我希望为了每个人的利益尽快将他们从权力的杠杆中移除——因为他们正在摧毁这艘船和所有人。 对于所有其他“小家伙”犹太人,他们不同意他们正在做的事情并且没有从他们的政策中受益,不幸的是,他们不得不应对与他们混在一起的后果和酝酿中的仇恨——我同情你伙计们。 你的责任是尽可能多地通知和纠正你社区内的人——而不是仅仅因为你属于一个部落就为不道德的行为辩护或解释; 就像穆斯林和我们中间的极端分子一样。 赌注变得太高了。 正如我提到的,我有一个工人阶级的犹太邻居,他只是一个普通人——他有两个漂亮的双胞胎小女孩和一个可爱的小男孩。 这个论坛上的一些人提倡让我停下来想知道他们是否已经考虑过的事情。 你不只是“摆脱”或“踢出”一个人。 你穿上枪械盔甲,闯入一个男人的家,把他和他尖叫的孩子们拖出来,把他们绑在一辆公共汽车上,把他们带到一些加工营地,然后在下一艘船上。 或者,如果你太娇气,你可以用你的税款雇佣一些反社会人士来敲门。 除非有人认为人们会因为你提供了一张免费的单程票而直接离开。

    我正在培养三个年轻人,让他们重视真正的力量意味着为弱势群体挺身而出的能力和意愿。 如果有人想跟踪我的邻居和他的孩子,欢迎他们通过我和我的孩子们来。

    上帝保佑你,让我们以正义找到真正的解决方案。

    • 回复: @bjondo
    , @iffen
  215. Boris 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    What are you talking about? No one important is mad at Israel NOW. Nor are they mad at Japan despite the Bataan Death March.

    为了报复日本偷袭珍珠港,美国向日本投下了两颗原子弹。

    你对历史的掌握是可怕的。

    • 回复: @5371
  216. Wally [又名“ BobbyBeGood”] 说: • 您的网站
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    现在你的内裤打结了。

    跟上,我一直在争论你。

    我还注意到你不能反驳我发布的内容。

    这就是不可能的“6万犹太人,5万其他人和毒气室”的方式。

    这太容易了。

    • 回复: @Andrew E. Mathis
  217. RobinG 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    So this is how you rationalize your Jew-hatred, placing yourself in the company of gross offenders. Miserable loves company. At least you admit “It’s a coward’s tactic —”

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
  218. bjondo 说:
    @Talha

    talha 是伪装成穆斯林的犹太人
    在这里发帖的犹太人很可能占据同一个隔间

    • 回复: @Talha
  219. Talha 说:
    @bjondo

    显然,正如我存档的帖子所证明的那样,世界上关于逊尼派哈纳菲法学学派知识最渊博的犹太人——哦!

    如果我能开始正确的真人秀 - 杰出的哈纳菲犹太人,或者哈纳菲犹太人来了,这里面就写满了 15 分钟成名的气质。

    • 回复: @bjondo
  220. @juster

    juster, the “long, pointless diatribe” was not addressed to you, it was addressed to Boris.

    更加公正 https://www.unz.com/article/israels-friends-against-the-first-amendment/#comment-1387268 被引用了两次:

    1. 关于以色列说客拒绝遵守美国法律将其注册为外国代理人的问题。 这意味着,至少在这种情况下,以色列蔑视法治。

    2. 那正义者认同犹太人和以色列。
    一种。 你自称是犹太人。
    湾也许将您的身份与以色列联系起来是不合法的; 你似乎确实肯定以色列拥有核武器是保护自己免受种族灭绝的一种手段; 这听起来很像亲以色列的党派路线,或者它可能只是党派路线的声明,没有任何认可。

    Conc:S2C取得3分; 愿意退一步,#2b。

    现在感觉好多了?

    • 回复: @FLgeezer
  221. @RobinG

    哎哟。

    令人痛心的并不是人身攻击——尽管如此; 这更像是对社会学/人性的一种对行动反应的解释的尝试被误解的方式。

    也许我没有很好地表达这个概念。

  222. @Wally

    You call that debating? Really?

    好吧,随便。 你说没有乱葬岗。 我说你可以查一下 1990 年代在澳大利亚起诉的战争罪案件。 在乌克兰挖掘了一个乱葬坑,为检方提供信息。 在坟墓中发现了八百名平民,包括妇女和儿童,以及数百发德国步枪炮弹。 现在去查查这个案​​子,告诉我为什么那不是纳粹受害者的万人坑。

    被告是一个名叫伊万·波吕霍维奇的人。

    • 回复: @Beefcake the Mighty
  223. FLgeezer 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Regarding SC’s point 1 and the phrase “Israel disdains the rule of law”, assertion confirmed:

    http://petras.lahaine.org/?p=2050

  224. Sam Shama 说:
    @juster

    你会发现,就像我一样,经过大约一年的评论,SolontoCroesus 是一个足够好的人。 月球周期的顶部是关键,它的接近程度与人类仁慈的牛奶成正比。

    这里有一些非常博学的评论家,尤其是历史学家。 您很快就能识别它们,特别是如果您关注 Saker 的专栏。 S2C,我认为他一生中的大部分时间都致力于遏制他无疑认为是名副其实的犹太人对美国生活和话语各个方面的接管; [我记得我曾经提议安排一个 Brith Mila,作为减轻他不情愿遵守犹太规则的痛苦的一种手段。 到目前为止,他已经拒绝了,而是转而接受琐罗亚斯德教]

    作为一个犹太人,一开始对我来说当然也很震惊。 然而,人们确实对它产生了一定的容忍度。

    我自己对犹太人影响问题的看法相当直截了当。 AIPAC 对所有美国人,尤其是犹太人来说都是一个危险的组织。 成员们蜂拥而至,就像苍蝇被火吸引一样,看不到任何个性或分歧的痕迹。 不要再给他们寄钱了。

    我们能做的还有很多,但这并不涉及 S2C 复活阿道夫的湿梦。

    • 回复: @alexander
  225. alexander 说:
    @Sam Shama

    山姆。

    你的评论:

    “对于所有美国人,尤其是犹太人,AIPAC 是一个危险的组织。”

    是的,但并非必须如此。 AIPAC 没有理由不能成为一个伟大的组织。 凭借如此大的影响力和如此大的影响力,想想它可能产生的伟大举措。

    今天,AIPAC 的可怕之处在于它对永久战争的犯罪成瘾。

    真的很糟糕,山姆。

    每个人似乎都在为自己倾倒,在好战和好战中互相攻击。

    没有实现和平的倡议……它所有的都是战争,全职,一直,并通过他们可以使用的任何手段说服和胁迫我们的政府以完全相同的方式行事。

    考虑到侵略战争在宏观上等同于谋杀,这令人深感不安。

    除了设计使冲突永久化的借口之外,他们似乎没有以任何方式参与发起倡议。

    如果以色列或 AIPAC 就此而言,有一个“和平计划”,我还没有看到......你有吗?

    如果您没有和平计划,没有任何计划,并且想要使战争永久化,那么您怎么可能不成为大方程式中的标志性恐怖分子?

    你怎么可能不呢,山姆?

    我认为 AIPAC 在编造“借口”来为持续的战争和杀戮辩护并让美国接受它方面花费的脑力比试图找到解决其冲突的方法多一千倍。

    如果我是以色列,走出大门的第一件事,我会制定一个十点和平计划,传播给每个人,“确切地”强调我在冲突的每一个元素上的立场。

    那么,作为钟声,以色列代表和平将是绝对清楚的。

    人们可以站在她身后。

    如果没有……这对每个人来说都是坏消息。

    这是多么悲惨的事情。

    .

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  226. Talha 说:
    @bjondo

    呸! 我是说 Oy Vey! 我和我的穆斯林妻子的婚姻因此无效——我生活在罪恶之中……

    “恐怖……恐怖……”——库尔茨上校

    • 回复: @bjondo
  227. Sam Shama 说:
    @alexander

    是的,AIPAC 有可能成为一股向善的力量。 目前的订单太高了。 全炼狱先示。

  228. RobinG 说:

    T他取消了

    北美NAKBA之旅

    我们知道我们的统治者是谁......那些我们不能批评的人。 巴勒斯坦难民解释说,她被斯坦福 SJP(自我审查!!!)审查,因为她害怕如果她反对以色列的话会受到影响。


    Amena ElAshkar 采访

  229. iffen 说:
    @Talha

    你没有离开。 你没有错过任何一天。 你的这个评论充满了BS。

    • 回复: @Talha
  230. Talha 说:

    亲爱的伊芬,

    学士? 为何如此? 有点迷茫……

    一个名叫“juster”的人来到这个网站,要求让人们参与对犹太文化、历史等的批评,但他遭到了基本上可怕的言论和人身攻击的打击。 没有人给他喘息的机会。 我觉得这不是必要的,所以我给了他一些关于如何浏览这个论坛的提示,并列出了一些我认为人们一直在批评犹太文化/影响的要点——这样他就有了一些表面上的东西启动一个对话,而不是“你们都是人渣,我们要把你们都关进监狱……”。 我跳过了所有的阴谋论,因为老实说我并没有考虑太多。

    你是对的,这个网站很容易上瘾。 再次,我得抽身一下。

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

    • 回复: @iffen
    , @Mark Green
  231. Talha 说:
    @iffen

    我真的戒烟了 5 天……我就像一个需要他解决的瘾君子。 看看我能不能熬过一段时间的提款。

  232. bjondo 说:
    @Talha

    只是网络这么说。

    很少有人相信你的第一个欺骗 为什么相信你的第二个?
    无论如何,
    极端犹太人,
    spittile paul pussywitz 前以色列国防部副部长有/有一个穆斯林妻子/伴侣

    nazi like antisemite 这个词意味着真理对于分叉的舌头寄生虫来说太接近了

  233. iffen 说:
    @Talha

    学士? 为何如此? 有点迷茫……

    一些对以色列最好的批评者是犹太人

    This akin to what simpleton racists trot out from time to time. (Africans were captured and sold by other Africans, some American blacks owned slaves, blah, blah, there were white slaves, blah, blah)

    让人想起以前的欧洲殖民入侵

    这将以色列与可恶的殖民和欧洲流行语联系起来。 为什么不看看它是什么? 两个不相容的团体试图占据同一块土地?

    成为“选民”的宗教观点

    如果我错了,请纠正我,但这不是任何种族的标准观点吗?

    the loss of morality does come from places like Hollywood and the entertainment industry which is top-heavy with Jewish people … any Jews walking around with guns forcing Jimbo to watch porn or visit titty-bars.

    责怪犹太人,然后“公平地”将其退回。

    顺便说一句,你叫谁金博? (这里是笑脸)

    我就像一个需要他解决的瘾君子。

    让我们希望是这样。 我知道人们可以从戒瘾中恢复过来。 如果“大制药公司”把他们的恶魔爪子抓到你身上,我们将不得不用叉子插在你身上。

    • 回复: @Talha
  234. @SolontoCroesus

    Most “leaders” belong on the dung heap of history. But if I were to pick one good one, William Henry Harrison gets my vote. He had the common courtesy to die 30 days after taking office, before he could do much harm. If only every “leader” followed his example.

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
  235. @Boris

    不,但宪法告诉我们这个国家是为谁建立的:
    “我们美国人民为了建立一个更完善的联盟,建立正义,确保国内安宁,提供共同的防御,促进普遍的福利,并获得自由的祝福, 自己和我们的后代,为美利坚合众国制定和制定本宪法。”

    读那个? “我们的后代=
    这意味着建立这个国家的那些英国新教徒的后裔,而不是像你这样的东欧贫民窟的拒绝者。 不是意大利人、希腊人、西班牙人或中美洲的部落。

    • 回复: @Boris
  236. 嘿山姆,怎么样?
    告诉我,那个月亮的地理方位是什么? https://museumvictoria.com.au/planetarium/discoverycentre/faqs/moon-phases-on-other-side-of-earth/

    =—

    吨/吨

    在 C Span 上观看,与目击者杰克·埃文斯 (Jack Evans) 交谈,他是美国第二大公共交通系统 DC Metro 的负责人,它正在失败:物理结构已经破旧,更重要的是,METRO 承担了它无法履行的养老金义务。
    http://www.c-span.org/video/?407793-1/washington-journal-4162016

    埃文斯刚刚说,大约 25 多年前,麦德龙曾讨价还价,将为养老金提供资金; WMATA(METRO 系统的企业霸主)需要 (iirc) 美国政府 300 亿美元来兑现这一承诺。

    边栏: 45 多年前,我们在读研究生时,一位日本国民回到了他的祖国,并帮助创建了日本最先进的公共交通系统。 美国没有效仿:我们让我们的朋友带回家回到他的国家和他热爱的祖国; 他在美国最好的大学之一接受了高度训练,出于爱国主义的自然情感——对他的文化同胞的爱——他在他的灵魂中怀有自然的感情(一些在 UNZ 会在他的基因中说),为他的祖国创造一个更美好的世界。 我们从我们的朋友 Take 那里听说,他正在退休,并享受着他为改善祖国所做贡献的成果。

    在美国,我们,他 45 多年前的同事,正在花费我们的努力和财富来支持以色列这个贱民国家。

    所以在细粒度的层面上,我建议 WMATA 聘请 AIPAC 为 WMATA 游说:也许如果丹尼斯·罗斯(Dennis Ross)花费类似于他所雇用的努力来游说外星人的利益——我的意思是真正的外星人——外国国家的基础设施美国可能会找到资源来拯救自己免于彻底崩溃。

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  237. @Chris Mallory

    谢谢你的回复,克里斯马洛里。

    我对美国最高法院法官 James McReynolds 很感兴趣。 麦克雷诺兹对路易斯·布兰代斯和路易斯·法兰克福特的蔑视毫不掩饰:在我看来,他是正确的; 他的失败在于他表达了他对美国最高法院这些最终叛徒居民的反对:麦克雷诺兹是一位非常聪明的美国人,在当时的美国雅典、田纳西州和弗吉尼亚州接受教育,他在某种程度上意识到布兰代斯法兰克福特是第五专栏作家,不是为了美国人民的利益,而是为了外来势力的利益,但他无法以外星人为获得他们的利益所采用的狡猾方法来表达他对这种外来势力的反对。在美国等级制度中的影响地位。 他对布兰代斯和法兰克福特的叛国行为做出了发自内心的反应,而不是像叛徒们用来颠覆美国权力的那种狡猾。

    Jews are a force of history, but they are not a force of nature. Jews are accomplished wordsmiths; they can and have manipulated the impulses of herded masses of humanity with their words, to the extent of causing those masses to kill other people by the millions, in response to the devilishly crafted words of propagandists, but Jews — nor any other people on this planet – can affect the cycles of the moon.

    波斯学者——天文学家; 贤士——研究并理解了 5000 多年前的自然、月球、太阳、恒星周期。 当以斯帖作为波斯帝国的客人以书面形式学习包含智慧和交流时,耶胡德进行了追赶。 似乎已成为埃斯特林犹太人的一种模式,他们利用了许多欢迎他们的国家和民族的热情好客,而这些热情好客的国家发现他们的犹太“客人”“欢迎”以背叛、剥削、盗窃作为回报。 ,以及对以前热情好客的东道国文化的破坏。

    似乎没有任何理由相信美国人民不会发现自己受到与美国人民相同的待遇。
    埃及人民——欢迎犹太人并为他们提供安全和繁荣;
    波斯人民——他们欢迎犹太人并为他们提供安全和繁荣;
    德国人民——欢迎犹太人并为他们提供安全和繁荣;
    英国人民——欢迎犹太人并为他们提供安全和繁荣;

    所有这些州——所有这些州——最终都受到他们欢迎的犹太移民的袭击。
    因此,添加到列表中似乎是合理的:

    美国人民——他们欢迎犹太人并为他们提供安全和繁荣。

    ** 波兰-俄罗斯-德国及其与犹太人的纠缠关系是它自己的一个类别,在我看来,这是辨别犹太复国主义真正本质问题的核心。 所谓的“第二次世界大战”(以及第一次世界大战作为其前传)可以/应该更恰当地研究为犹太移民战争。

  238. geokat62 说:
    @juster

    至于你提到的文章,我只读过米尔斯海默和沃尔特。 我发现它大约有 50% 的说服力。

    很想了解您认为不可信的内容。

  239. Boris 说:
    @Chris Mallory

    没有人会买你对宪法的小改款。 有趣的是,你认为仅仅与 200 年前在殖民地的某个人有关系就可以让你拥有整个国家的权利。

    意外出生是你最珍贵的成就? 现在那只是可悲。

    • 回复: @SolontoCroesus
  240. @Boris

    有趣的是,你认为仅仅与 200 年前在殖民地的某个人有关系就可以让你拥有整个国家的权利。

    o 铁矿石。

    犹太复国主义的整个概念、意识形态和血腥轨迹都牢固地植根于这样一种观念,即 2000 年前在黎凡特的“某人”赋予犹太人以整个国家的权利。

  241. Sam Shama 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    有月亮就够了😉

    好吧,我完全同意。 Dennis Ross、Kristol、Foxman、Lew 以及这些杰出成员中的任何一个都应该把精力集中在对美国重要的事情上,基础设施是最明显的。 萨默斯、斯蒂格利茨、克鲁格曼,一直在这方面进行讨伐。

    真正的问题不是财务问题,而是犬儒主义 [Ryan、McConnell]、政治哗众取宠 [Christie] 和无知 [整个茶党街区] 的组合。 美国可以将十年基础设施支出计划锁定在低于通胀的 1.7%,这意味着实际上,世界正在付钱给我们从事基础设施支出!! 不接受那个提议真的是犯罪。 这是我支持特朗普的主要原因。 他显然明白了。 对于商人来说,这是“无需动脑筋”。 基拉里不明白。 她将是一场彻头彻尾的灾难。 如果她获胜,世界经济将承受更大的压力,我很确定像巴勒斯坦问题这样的问题将在大多数人的视野中进一步消失,尤其是欧洲人。

    Look, I think the AIPAC is actually very aware that its image needs an uplift; to that end if it can successfully get behind infrastructure spending, pension funding etc. it might be a clever way of approaching them to do some actual good. Seeds of an idea. …something I am 100% sure most Jewish Americans will support.

    • 回复: @geokat62
    , @bjondo
    , @Art
  242. Art 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “对不起,贾斯特,把你的栗子从火里救出来不是我的工作。 我并不特别担心你或一般犹太人会发生什么。”

    我可以不同意,贾斯特的问题是我们的问题。 显然,世界上的部落犹太人问题是真实存在的。 所有的生命都是神圣的 – 我们必须找到一种方式,让 Juster 与我们其他人和平相处。

    显然,犹太人对生死的劣势必须改变。 显然,以色列并不珍视所有生命。

    耶稣说要“爱人如己”和“爱你的仇敌”。 无论你是否爱耶稣——无论你是否相信他是上帝的儿子——这些话对人类都具有不朽的意义。 这些话是摆脱原始人类部落的唯一途径。

    耶稣还说“真理会让你自由”。 事实是,以色列是以斯帖和末底改的土地——而不是律法颁布者摩西的土地。 故事是,以斯帖在波斯国王身上运用她女性化的诡计,让他让犹太人末底改掌权。 末底改随后发动战争,杀死了 75,000 名波斯人——不是因为有必要——而是因为他可以。 这是几千年来犹太人部落最自豪的节日。 犹太人和其他人一起沉浸在这个死亡故事中。

    另一方面,摩西是颁布律法的人,他说“不可杀人”。

    嗯——是什么——“杀了你的敌人”还是“不应该杀?” 嗯——杀戮越来越多。

    The world’s Jew have a choice – Moses or Mordecai – it is truly up to them.

    看来贾斯特选择了摩西——我们必须支持他。

  243. Talha 说:
    @iffen

    啊好吧——这似乎是个误会……

    一些对以色列最好的批评者是犹太人

    I specifically mentioned this in order to parry to accusation that others were making that Jews are all tribal and never change and are not self-critical. That they are all part of some evil elite – which is simply not the case, as evidenced by some of the names I put forward. This of course got me a crypto-Jew label from bondo since I won’t paint with a broad brush.

    让人想起以前的欧洲殖民入侵

    人们可以将其视为两个不相容的群体,但那是 a) 忽略了一些历史背景和 b) 不将其视为当地人民如何看待它。 这与亚美尼亚人和阿塞拜疆人或土耳其人和库尔德人争夺土地不同,这更像是南非的布尔人。 犹太人在中东生活了几个世纪; 安纳托利亚、河中地区、也门、伊拉克、伊朗、摩洛哥、巴勒斯坦等。如果仅仅是这些土著人融入该地区,那将导致与我们所看到的截然不同的结果。 然而,以色列国首先是一个欧洲企业,由当时的黎凡特殖民势力支持的欧洲犹太人知识分子创立; 法国和英国。 那些给我们伊拉克、叙利亚等民族国家边界的人。不考虑这个因素就是过度简化它; 这不是Bloods vs Crips。

    这不是任何种族的标准观点吗?

    毫无疑问,每个人都称赞他们的文化胜过其他人,但人们不会说他们是“上帝的选民”,或者,正如我提到的一些关于犹太人与外邦人完全不同的模式的拉比观点。 如果你不相信我,你可以问Greasy来确认。 老实说,这并没有打扰我,因为这是伊斯兰教要纠正的神学错误——但我把它作为其他人争论的焦点。 请注意,我在开始我的清单时措辞谨慎:“就犹太人被批评的其他一些事情而言……”

    Blame the Jews then “even-handedly” walk it back

    Note, I blame some Jews, those elites who have no moral compass and care not for the lives and families that they are ruining. People like the head of Vivid and AshleyMadison – not to mention many who are involved in the upper echelons of Hollywood. Is this not an empirically valid statement to make? I remember the Jewish group on our campus once published a report in their university newspaper about how Jews were so influential in the media and entertainment industry, they had put a number like 40% or 50% in the higher-ups – it was a matter of pride for them. That was back in the 90’s so I don’t know how things have shifted. I recently had a wonderful conversation with an Orthodox Rabbi in LAX. I didn’t bring up the topic of Israel in order to make sure it remained cordial, but we had a great discussion about their juristic tradition and comparisons with the Islamic scholarly tradition. We also spoke over how rules of modesty for men and women were very similar – so I don’t believe whatever rot these vile elite are purveying has much to do with the Rabbinic tradition that goes back to the covenant at Zion.

    有时我用 Jimbo 代替 Tom、Dick 和 Harry。 我可以使用阿拉伯语 – fulan-ibn-fulan(某某 – 某某的儿子 – 某某)。 金博喜欢和衣着暴露的女人嬉戏,这毁了他的婚姻,但他宁愿把这归咎于别人,也不愿归咎于自己的道德缺陷。 所以你告诉我你是否认识金博斯……🙂

    让我们看看juster有什么要说的? 在等待他的回应时,我可能应该躲避,因为这条评论必定会让更多的便便被抛在脑后。

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

    • 回复: @iffen
  244. geokat62 说:
    @Sam Shama

    看,我认为 AIPAC 实际上非常清楚它的形象需要提升; 为此,如果它能够成功支持基础设施支出、养老基金等,这可能是让他们做一些实际利益的聪明方式。 一个想法的种子。 ……我 100% 肯定大多数犹太裔美国人会支持。

    来吧,山姆……为 AIPAC 进行形象改造,真的吗? 你和我都知道,说服 AIPAC“支持基础设施支出、养老金等”是个笑话。

    正如 Philip Weiss 所明确指出的,这归结为一场社区内部斗争。 分界线非常清晰:以色列优先还是美国优先。

    不幸的是,大多数犹太复国主义者最初认为他们可以拥有蛋糕并吃掉它……但是在过去的 15 年里,重建 ME 花费的数万亿美元和失去的所有生命让事情变得非常明显……甚至对大多数愚蠢的人来说——即,要隐瞒大厅正在对普通美国人的利益造成巨大损害的事实变得更加困难。

    但有些事情告诉我,大多数社区仍然在否认,认为大多数愚蠢的人仍然被 MSM 不断喷出的 Hasbara 迷住了。 正如我在之前的评论中提到的,我对未来不抱希望,因为我相信大厅已经与基拉里达成了浮士德式的交易——也就是说,她将成为第一位女性 POTUS,以换取将特殊关系提升到一个新的水平。

    Given what lies ahead, if I were part of the community, I would be trying to shut down the Lobby (AIPAC, CoP, AEIF, WINEP, ADL, etc,) not trying to give it a makeover, IMHO.

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  245. bjondo 说:
    @Sam Shama

    “形象需要提升”

    是的,让我们化妆来隐藏犹太人的癌性和寄生性。
    山姆使用大量化妆品来愚弄不知情的人
    aipac vs j街
    右翼 vs 左翼
    一只鸟,同一个目标

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  246. Sam Shama 说:
    @bjondo

    告诉我,你认为你在打击这些组织方面会取得多大的成功? 除了在网络上冲山时,还有什么想法吗?

    • 回复: @bjondo
  247. Sam Shama 说:
    @geokat62

    In an ideal world I would be behind shutting them down., making them subject to FARA. Do you think that you can run the table on this game?

    我喜欢处理我可以实际影响的事情。

    • 回复: @alexander
    , @geokat62
  248. alexander 说:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam, Geo,

    拥有权利的同时也被赋予了重大的责任。

    而且,不幸的是,Aipac 搞砸了。

    As the stewards of our nation, what did they do ? They eviscerated our constitution, and ransacked our treasury.

    Their policy of defrauding us into reckless, bogus, criminal wars of aggression has cost us tens of trillions of dollars we simply do not have.

    我们现在背负着不合理的 19 万亿美元债务,其中大部分用于战争欺诈……银行欺诈……和恐怖欺诈。

    我认为仅仅关闭他们是不够的……他们需要被追究他们的欺诈行为造成的巨额债务。

    我想要回我的钱 。

    是不是

    我认为他们需要被捕并将他们的资产追回纳税人。

    那么,Aipac可以破产,而美国可以重新获得一些偿付能力。

    如果他们在战争中撒谎......那是“战争欺诈”......他们应该为此付出代价......

    我们为什么要?

    • 回复: @anonymous
  249. geokat62 说:
    @Sam Shama

    你认为 美味 可以在这个游戏上跑表吗?

    Sam, you missed my point. This isn’t about me. 这是关于社区的,我当然希望 他们 正如你所说的,可以掌控局面,因为这是社区损失最大的,如果 他们 不要设法迅速扭转局面。

    我? 我只是个笨蛋,怕他注定要成为 Cassandra。

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  250. Art 说:
    @Sam Shama

    “Look, I think the AIPAC is actually very aware that its image needs an uplift”

    山姆,

    明白了——AIPAC 的那些人是杀手——他们强迫人们为他们杀人。

    所有的杀戮——所有的血统 9/11——世界各地的所有伤害——你说啧啧——修复形象。

    对与错毫无意义——正义毫无意义——只要保存犹太人的形象。

    How intellectually and morally low, how inferior of you.

    艺术

    ps 当然,所有这些都忽略了那些 AIPAC 支持者对美国、其政府、其经济、其善良的人民乃至整个世界造成的巨大损害。

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  251. Sam Shama 说:
    @geokat62

    地理
    今天美国的“社区”在哪里? 居住在一个真正反乌托邦的地方。

    Furthermore I don’t really care what Philip Weiss says. A great many people get carried away by the hyperbole they create. From where I sit, it is far from clear to me that most Americans of Jewish extraction [even the rank and file of AIPAC] would oppose the re-building of American infra. They live here; and I don’t think they view it as a zero sum game.

    如果你有一个令人信服的拆卸 AIPAC 的计划,我会全力以赴。 我们正在与一个在美国政治上争论不休的组织打交道。 就他们在这方面的表现而言,应该是积极的,不是吗?

    并免除“愚蠢的goy”位,好吗? 😉

    • 回复: @geokat62
  252. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @alexander

    作为我们国家的管家,

    AIPAC——“我们国家的管家”

    你他妈是认真的吗!

    • 回复: @alexander
  253. alexander 说:
    @anonymous

    “我他妈是认真的吗?

    不幸的是,匿名,我是。

    They have been running the whole show….soup to nuts….and the Neocons, especially, since 9-11.

    我希望我能给你一些更好的消息,但我不能。

  254. Sam Shama 说:
    @Art

    你们对现实的模仿使我惊讶。 和自我放纵的胸部跳动,而选民做它该做的。 即使是特朗普,我现在相当肯定,也不会做你梦寐以求的事情。
    那么你的计划是什么? 把你那无能的“道德”留给与你转瞬即逝的朋友摩西在餐桌上的同情。 艺术,有时你写得像一个几乎不识字的白痴,有时则更有说服力。 所以这是相当明显的......等等。 你真的相信你正在取得任何有形的成果吗?

    我几乎不认为这个国家的人们关心他们的近期和中期需求,而 AIPAC 对他们来说毫无意义。

    Try to do things that you can achieve realistically, would be my advice. We all need to vent on occasion, but don’t make it the principal activity.

    • 回复: @RobinG
    , @Art
  255. geokat62 说:
    @Sam Shama

    ……对我来说,大多数犹太人血统的美国人 [甚至 AIPAC 的普通成员] 会反对重建美国的基础设施,这一点我还不清楚。 他们住在这里; 我不认为他们认为 零和游戏.

    Sam,鉴于您拥有数理经济学博士学位,我不必向您解释机会成本和权衡的概念。 如果大厅热衷于继续所谓的 GWOT(通过政权改变那些被视为敌对 ZE 的国家来重塑 ME 的阵线),那么数万亿将从基础设施投资转向这些无休止的战争。 如果美国人民想了解为什么他们在 1991 年苏联解体(9/11 前十年)后立即被剥夺了和平红利,我认为欧文克里斯托尔(比尔克里斯托尔的父亲)的这句话总结了一些事情上得很好:

    麦戈文参议员非常真诚地表示,他将努力将军事预算削减30%。 这是在以色列的心脏上开刀。.. 犹太人不喜欢庞大的军事预算。 但是现在在美国拥有庞大而强大的军事机构是犹太人的利益...... 关心以色列国存亡的美国犹太人 不得不说,不,我们不想削减军事预算,重要的是要保持大量的军事预算, so that we can defend Israel.

    PS 我保证放弃“愚蠢的goy”位,一旦你放弃这些明显假定我们是愚蠢的人的论点——例如,给 AIPAC 一个形象改造。

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  256. Mark Green 说:
    @Talha

    Dear Talha- Whether I agree with you or not, I always appreciate your gentle good manners and willingness to take a punch. Such patience. Such respect! Thank you for being courteous and, in general, a good example for those of us out there who (sometimes very aggressively) test our ideas and advance our contentious views.

    Peace, my friend.

    • 回复: @Talha
  257. RobinG 说:
    @Sam Shama

    “尝试做你可以现实实现的事情,这就是我的建议。” 很好的建议。 但是我们能做什么呢? 我相信像阿特这样的人,对他们明显的无能为力感到沮丧(-有多少人走上街头反对 2003 年的伊拉克战争,但布什无论如何还是入侵了-)正在各种互联网泡沫中绝望地呐喊。 事实上,即使我坚持应该是现实的努力,这在很大程度上是吃力不讨好的。 新世界秩序的齿轮在磨合。 如果你有一些可以实现的目标,请分享。 🙂

    如果可以,请在 19 月 XNUMX 日星期二去见 Miko Peled。也许你可以帮助他。 我敢肯定,如果你能安排的话,他很乐意在你的犹太教堂演讲。

    ** “Miko Peled on Peace in Israel/Palestine”,下午 1 点,在联合国教会中心(曼哈顿第 44 街和第 1 大道)。该活动由联合国以色列和巴勒斯坦问题非政府组织工作组和合作方主办。 - 由 Just World Books 主办。 将供应咖啡。

    ** “Miko Peled on Hope for the Future in Israel/Palestine”,晚上 7 点,在圣迈克尔教堂,225 West 99th Street,Manhattan(btwn Broadway 和Amsterdam)。该活动由以色列-巴勒斯坦问题特别工作组主办,地址为圣迈克尔教堂和 Just World Books 共同主办。 它由布鲁克林和平组织共同发起; 犹太和平之声-纽约分会; 生命之树教育基金; 犹太人说不!

    http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=6051805ea28d7ad24c553979e&id=ac184503fb

    附注。 昨天和我纽约的堂兄进行了一次令人恼火的谈话。 在吹嘘总是投票之后,她给出了她将投票给希拉里的可悲理由:1)她是“纽约人”,2)她想要一位女总统。 即使在初级? 我问。 是的。 在她一无所知的问题上。 讨论毫无意义。 我的表妹是个愚蠢的老妇人。 我希望没有那么多像她一样的人。

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
    , @Art
  258. Sam Shama 说:
    @geokat62

    好的。

    我真的不相信 Kristol 的想法像以前那样有影响力。 我感觉 AIPAC 会员资格并不像 GWB 的沙拉时代那样对赞助战争持开放态度。

    我也感觉到,实际上知道,AIPAC 的许多领导层都面临着来自其成员的非常困难的问题。 也许我对改造的描述并不是最容易接受的比喻,但我相信很多人都觉得需要为组织制定一个非常不同的课程。 在我看来,它必须从附带条件的会员费开始。 然后铲除老守卫。 这些是我的
    增量目标。 我没有兴趣误导任何人。 没有任何。

    同样,我们都必须走自己的路,我相信阻止希拉里是近期目标。 AIPAC 需要通过领导层清洗来改变。 如果可能的话,还支持 FARA 要求的应用 [是什么让我们认为会员会接受这一点? ]

    • 回复: @geokat62
  259. Talha 说:
    @Mark Green

    Thank you Mark – may God grant you honor for honoring me. I, as well, have enjoyed your contributions which have also shown civility (which is probably why I read them – a hint to those who would want others to consider your opinions with serious thought).

    As for any praiseworthy traits you find, I am reminded of the aphorism by the mystic and Maliki scholar of Alexandria, Ibn Ata Allah (may God raise his rank):
    “谁尊重和尊重你,实际上既不尊重也不尊重你,但他尊重并尊重了神隐的行为(你的过错)。”

    愿上帝在我们的交往中赐予我们所有良好的礼仪。

  260. bjondo 说:
    @Sam Shama

    网络是发动战争、反击/打击谎言和骗子的绝佳媒介。

    注意它吓坏了以色列/犹太人。

    一支骗子大军已被召集起来对抗真相和抵抗。

    注意 sam the sham 和假穆斯林。

    像j street 和oreobama 一样的房子黑人微笑着握手,同时把刀插在后面。

    helping the unaware, gullible to notice is step one.

    你是展览 1。talha 是 #2。

  261. iffen 说:
    @Talha

    啊好吧——这似乎是个误会……

    I don’t think that it is a misunderstanding. I think that it is a different understanding. You posit Jews who have dissenting views from the “orthodox” Zionists as exceptions. The logic is sound. You are telling them; here are many exceptions to the rule, therefore your rule cannot be valid. However, the people to whom you are presenting the argument will ignore and reject it. They already have their exception to the rule; The Righteous Jew. (I love these little shortcuts to understanding. When someone plays The Righteous Jew card, I know that I can stop right there and not waste any more of my time.) Here you are with your specific named exceptions in your hand and with logic guarding your back and you change no one’s mind. In fact, you can solidify their view with your argument. (If the shoe doesn’t fit; rename it and call it a Jew.)

    现在,让我们转向我的 BS 指控。 你对以色列有自己的看法和观点(有充分的事实依据),作为该观点的证据或支持,你说,“这里有犹太人也有类似的观点。” 由于持不同政见的犹太人同意您的意见而获得某种认可的想法不是有效的支持论点。 犹太人可以有不同意见的事实并不能为反犹太主义的指控辩护。 意见持有者的“犹太性”不会增加意见的分量。 我注意到种族主义者的类似论点。 如果你在讨论南部各州的奴隶经济,难免有人会指出非洲人通常被其他非洲人俘虏并出售。 一些人认为这一事实是对种族主义指控的某种预防或保护。 它不是; 这与中国的茶叶价格没有任何关系。

    • 回复: @Talha
  262. geokat62 说:
    @Sam Shama

    我没有兴趣误导任何人。 没有任何。

    谢谢,山姆

    正如您可能已经推断出的那样,我真的很感激与愿意坦诚相告的人交流,尤其是在涉及生死攸关的事情上……这是我寻找的东西,也是我最看重的东西另一个人。

    还支持应用 FARA 要求, 如果可能的话...

    正如你所知,山姆,一切皆有可能。

  263. Sam Shama 说:
    @RobinG

    您可以做的事情:
    致犹太人:
    1. 停止向 AIPAC 汇款
    2. 向内塔尼亚胡的办公室发送电子邮件,表达你的厌恶。
    3. 与其他犹太人交谈并说服他们了解 AIPAC 和其他组织对这个国家的行为结构和政府所做的事情。
    4. 与您的拉比交谈并与其他志同道合的会众一起为他工作,以帮助他渡过卢比孔河。 这会很难。
    5. [直接或间接] 将您的钱用于由 Miko Peled、Finklestein 等推动的事业和行动。[Robin 我 9 日在漂流岛上与 19 岁的部落作战]。 告诉你纽约的堂兄,希拉里实际上不再是女人了,几年前接受了重新分配手术。

    • 回复: @geokat62
    , @alexander
    , @Art
  264. geokat62 说:
    @Sam Shama

    告诉你纽约的堂兄,希拉里实际上不再是女人了,几年前接受了重新分配手术。

    LOL

  265. Talha 说:
    @iffen

    亲爱的iffen,

    是的,我同意,如果有人想从我的话中得出完全不同的结论,他们可以。 但我认为,这类人的观点不存在任何可以被说服的范围。

    由于持不同政见的犹太人同意您的意见而获得某种认可的想法不是有效的支持论点。

    我同意,但这不是我的论点。 我正在说; 我的结论是基于事实(历史和当前)的道德立场。 如果有人得出相同的结论(犹太人或其他人),则表明他们有能力达到道德立场,而不管媒体的叙述或他们自己的部落倾向如何——反之亦然。 他们对以色列及其政策的(正确)立场证明了他们的人性,而不是相反。 即使世界上所有的犹太人都全力支持以色列(他们显然都没有)——这与道德问题无关; 就像如果有人能证明成吉思汗的政策在部落中获得 100% 的支持率一样。

    说得通?

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

    • 回复: @Talha
    , @iffen
  266. alexander 说:
    @Sam Shama

    学习多么有趣,山姆,

    在阅读了 Mondoweiss 关于戴维营协议谬误的文章以及所谓的“前所未有的慷慨”和平提议(据报道阿拉法特已经驳回)之后,结果证明大部分都是空谈。

    我们能说什么?

    对所有人来说,越来越清楚的是,以色列希望消灭巴勒斯坦……并为自己夺取几乎所有的土地。

    如果这种行为不让人想起我们已经学会憎恶的所有最好战的法西斯主义形式:灭绝和生活……什么是?

    以色列似乎发现自己处于一种奇怪的、几乎双重的立场,试图以某种方式秘密地对种族灭绝和通过武力夺取土地表示赞同……只要是“以色列”在进行灭绝和土地抢。

    纳粹主义是好的..如果,并且仅当,它被犹太人作为一种犹太至上主义来实践......反对untermenchen的巴勒斯坦人......但是当它对我们实行时,在希特勒的德国,这是最大的罪行人性。

    当然,大屠杀的现实会让每一个在特雷布林卡和奥斯维辛中丧生的灵魂一想到这种行为......

    “我们真的变成了我们所鄙视的一切吗?”

    “我们有吗,山姆?”

    “And if we have, doesn’t it undermine, to the core, the very existence of our enterprise ?”

  267. Talha 说:
    @Talha

    只是澄清; 通过“验证他们的人性”,我的意思是对他人的同情和同情,这定义了人性。

  268. 如果你有一个令人信服的拆卸 AIPAC 的计划,我会全力以赴。 我们正在与一个在美国政治上争论不休的组织打交道。 就他们在这方面的表现而言,应该是积极的,不是吗?

    Splendid, my good man, simply splendid!

    我们可以就以下几点达成一致:

    如果您有一个令人信服的计划来拆卸 NSDAP,我会全力以赴。 我们正在与一个正在讨论欧洲政治的组织打交道。 To the extent they engage in some good while at it, ought to be a net positive, wouldn’t it?

    addendum: NSDAP serves as the model for infrastructure improvement, wot? Hitler did achieve full employment by greatly extending the autobahn; vastly increasing and improving building of homes for working-class Germans; investing heavily and productively in manufacture of an automobile that ordinary Germans could afford . . .

    在你注册你的愤怒之前 道德对等, 山姆,是的,我确实认为 AIPAC 和相关团体被列为 geokat62 具有巨大的破坏性,并且手上沾满了成千上万甚至数百万人的鲜血。

    奴隶制在(现在的)美国持续了近 250 年。 它得到了好基督徒和无宗教信仰者的平等支持; 犹太人和非犹太人。

    也曾多次尝试为那头猪涂上口红。 划线说这种危害人类罪可能发生在那里,但不是在这里。

    很多很多人根本没有意识到奴隶生活的痛苦,让人想起你的断言@270:

    我几乎不认为这个国家的人们关心他们的近期和中期需求,而 AIPAC 对他们来说毫无意义。

    让我们不要对“这个国家的人民”和他们狭隘的担忧太苛刻——人类是 硬连线只能看到他们直接视野内的东西, 并直接影响他们和他们的。 对于大多数人来说,处理这些直接问题所需的精力都消耗在这些努力中。

    出于某种原因,我们中的其他一些人有机会和能力扩大我们的视野并更广泛地消耗能量。 一些处于该职位的人认为有义务尽最大努力 拆卸 在他们的社区和他们的世界中,他们认为是严重的邪恶。

    花了很多年 拆卸 奴隶制,它只发生在近乎世界末日的暴力之后,符合新保守主义神学的基本原理:战争值得; 战争是必要的。

    @ 259 塔尔哈写道:

    我最近在 LAX 与一位东正教拉比进行了一次精彩的交谈。 我没有提到以色列的话题,以确保它保持亲切,但我们对他们的法律传统以及与伊斯兰学术传统的比较进行了很好的讨论。 我们还谈到了男性和女性的谦虚规则是多么相似——所以我不相信这些邪恶的精英所提供的任何腐烂与可以追溯到锡安圣约的拉比传统有很大关系。

    如果塔尔哈 160 年前生活在北美大陆,可以肯定地假设他/她会喜欢谈论最新的神智学理论,甚至可能参与为奴隶提供鞋子的努力,但塔尔哈不会污染的气氛 亲切 通过实际面对一个人拥有另一个人作为动产的愤怒。
    在努力中 拆卸 错了,有些人会搞这种学术性的对话——西奥多·赫茨尔写道 犹太国家 that the Jewish community was overloaded with “mediocre intellects” whose lack of gainful employment produced a tendency toward revolutionary and socialist entanglements — while others will maintain that only direct confrontation can achieve the desired end. That confrontation begins with calling things as they are; with identifying the enemy as the enemy rather than allowing oneself to be deceived by the camouflage of labels such as “allies” who “share our values.”

    No, Sam Shama, some of us do NOT share the values of those who consider killing Palestinians a god-given right; nor do we find it unobjectionable that numerous persons who do hold that conviction have persuaded, by fair means and foul, the governing, financing, and military apparatus of the United States to endorse and participate in those deadly activities, using American taxpayers’ treasure and blood to do so, 反对我们更好的判断。

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
    , @Talha
  269. bjondo 说:

    很高兴发现像他们的兄弟犹太人芬克尔斯坦、乔姆斯基、阿夫纳里、蒙多维斯、西尔弗斯坦一样在这里发帖的犹太人现在可以承认以色列没有存在的权利。 非法外来可萨人占领的土地是巴勒斯坦,属于巴勒斯坦人。

    they agree bds should be supported and extended to all businesses, individuals dealing with the terror entity self named israel.

    all occupiers and supporters of this terror entity should be arrested and tried for war crimes, crimes against humanity.

    that all possessions they claim should be seized and given to the victims of jewry to include the victims in usa of the terror attack on 9-11 by jews.

    our jews are a somewhat decent lot

    i would say “thank their g-d” but their small, incomplete g-d is satan/the collective.

    just go find some young gentile child, drain blood, make matzos.

    recipe can be found in a. toaff’s book

    if not burned

    • 回复: @Boris
  270. Art 说:
    @Sam Shama

    “You fellows amaze me with your ļimited grasp of reality. … yada … yada … yada … Try to do things that you can achieve realistically, would be my advice.”

    Sam are you OK, have you had a stroke? Has illness caused you to do a 180 – you say it is helpless to go against the Jew – once you where against the Big Jews. Now you say “you are stupid – just give up dummy!” Which is it Little Jew – where is the true Sam? Where has he always been?

    Sam — realistically you Jews are losing. Every day more and more people are getting to know your culture for what it is – more and more people of the world see your treatment of the Palestinian people (and that treatment will only get worse). More and more people see your coercion of America and the West (and they do not like it). Now you squeeze the top of our culture – but make no mistake, your Stockholm control of the establishment will die in ONE day.

    艺术

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  271. Sam Shama 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Do you really fancy erecting these strawmen arguments, false correspondences and really, a troubled appeal to dormant sexual angst?

    Well I am jolly well going to enter the scrummage then!

    Your narrative betrays shades of Narnia; through the cupboard you’ve crawled and summoned the Wehrmacht to the present. [During my last visit to Frankfurt I thought Germans were more American in outlook really, not a jack boot in sight; and I learnt the word 退费风电 from a button a German girl gave me, with old Adolph’s face on it!

    The NSDAP built the Autobahns and expanded infrastructure for the benefit of Germans who are good engineers, certainly, but so are the Japanese, the Chinese, the Singaporeans etc. You seem to suggest that in order to build good roads a people need also be accomplished mass murderers. I think not. So cry me a River S2C. Two can play that game.

    Talking about running the tables in European politics, had you lived then, you would’ve surely noticed that it was his Majesty King G’s government and its allies that did so in the end. So tell me again why should one not be anything but dismissive of the aggressor yet the ultimately conquered?

    Spare me the comparison to slaves, the people here in the U.S. today. More like overfed seals, waiting for their government checques and the readily available mobility scooters. I haven’t seen this much govt issued medical hardware as I am in FL! These people actually like living in their dystopian world. Change that culture first, allright?

    I must say that you were going at a good clip there, until you decided to attack Talha for his decency and civility, urging him to call Jews his true enemy. I suspect it won’t work. [You flung a similar invective at me back in the days I recall, and I came to a rather late realisation that natural biliousness and lunar cycles are the keys to unlocking the mysteries of your otherwise unremarkable character].

    So to round it off, mate, you can stuff your angular accusations that I endorse the killing of Palestinians up your arse.

    还有别的吗?

  272. Sam Shama 说:
    @Sam Shama

    Also please refrain from attempting to paraphrase Herzl.

  273. Art 说:
    @RobinG

    I believe people like Art, frustrated by their apparent impotence (-how many took to the streets to oppose the 2003 Iraq war, but Bush invaded anyway-) are crying out in desperation in the various internet bubbles.

    罗宾·G,

    Because I challenge the Jew “as Jews” – it makes people very uneasy – after 60 years of propaganda 24/7/365 year after year, people are squeamish about using the word “Jew.”

    I challenge their religion, their god, and their aberrant tribalism. This is unacceptable in today’s culture (by the way, a politically correct culture created by Jews).

    Yes, this is unpopular – so be it – I make my points (too often, not well) – it is necessary to know the opposition – to know where they are coming from – to know their inherent dark side.

    艺术

  274. Sam Shama 说:
    @Art

    现实地 Art, if you notice my exchanges with Geokat, Alexander and Robin, you might get a clue that we are questioning and debating ideas and possible courses of action. It’s called the Socratic method. Those who do not, or deliberately choose not to understand that are quick to fling accusations of low morality Yada Yada yada.

    If it makes you feel better [over pork and beans] in believing that the JEWS are losing, so be it. I’ll chalk that one up to public service.

    • 回复: @Art
  275. iffen 说:
    @Sam Shama

    lunar cycles are the keys

    I thought you stated that you had gotten the mileage out of this and you were going to let it go.

    You seem to have a bit of a hard on for my fat peeps and I think you should knock it off.

  276. Art 说:
    @Sam Shama

    您可以做的事情:
    致犹太人:
    1. 停止向 AIPAC 汇款
    2. 向内塔尼亚胡的办公室发送电子邮件,表达你的厌恶。
    3. … yada…
    4. …yada…

    山姆,

    That is useless – if you want to save your people. You’ll have to find Moses the law giver and reject the murderous Mordecai. You must put Moses – “Thou shall not kill” – at the top of Jew thinking. Nothing short of that will do.

    The time you waste making comments against me is wasted – you just perpetuate the current arch of events that are not going your way. You need to get on the Jew web sites and post that truth. In your heart you know this to be true.

    艺术

  277. @Sam Shama

    a troubled appeal to dormant sexual angst?

    whoa nellie!
    you’re making me laugh, Sam! I hope you’re prepared to take responsibility for wrecking the axle on my Hover-round.

    the customary rejoinder to such a complete and total meltdown as you just displayed would be to say, Gee Sam, you’re cute when you’re angry.

    But in your case it’s the reverse: with very little probing the Mask of Sam slips away and the “sexual angst” spouting Sam explodes into view, like the Incredible Hulk popping out of his button-down shirt.

    Not to worry, Sam; the phenomenon is not that unusual. One of our kids does something similar — when we get calls or messages laced with over-the-top politeness we know for certain that something is really bothering, and enormous efforts are being made to conceal the distress — lipstick on a pig, but the pig will oink, after all.

    Most of your — shall we call it a response? What you wrote was certainly not a refutation — is not worth the time to consider and reply, but as for the Herzl — take it from the horse’s, uh, mouth:

    At the same time, the equal rights of Jews before the law cannot be withdrawn where they have once been conceded. Not only because their withdrawal would be opposed to the spirit of our age, but also because it would immediately drive all Jews, rich and poor alike, into the ranks of subversive parties. Nothing effectual can really be done to our injury.

    In olden days our jewels were seized. How is our movable property to be got hold of now? It consists of printed papers which are locked up somewhere or other in the world, perhaps in the coffers of Christians. It is, of course, possible to get at shares and debentures in railways, banks and industrial undertakings of all descriptions by taxation, and where the progressive income-tax is in force all our movable property can eventually be laid hold of.

    But all these efforts cannot be directed against Jews alone, and wherever they might nevertheless be made, severe economic crises would be their immediate consequences, which would be by no means confined to the Jews who would be the first affected. The very impossibility of getting at the Jews nourishes and embitters hatred of them. Anti-Semitism increases day by day and hour by hour among the nations; indeed, it is bound to increase, because the causes of its growth [91]continue to exist and cannot be removed.

    Its remote cause is our loss of the power of assimilation during the Middle Ages; 其直接原因是我们过度生产平庸的智力,他们无法向下或向上找到出口—that is to say, no wholesome outlet in either direction. When we sink, we become a revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of all revolutionary parties;和 at the same time, when we rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse.

    apology accepted.
    it’s the kinda guy I am.

    • 回复: @Sam Shama
  278. Sam Shama 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    And meltdown is something you know all too well, don’t you? Recall the time when someone went sniffling to Ron Unz, after threatening physical harm on well known public figures?

    Me melting down? Just the foie gras, served with the ’85 d’Yquem, as I type thistuff on the phone, due sou’sou-West of Castaway cay.

  279. @Blake

    a significant element of ‘anti semitism’ may be the frightened effort of Christian Americans (especially) to form an identity that can segregate the evil that American Christians have participated in, by depositing those acts on the Jewish doorstep.

    艾拉·切尔努斯(Ira Chernus)

    LIBERALS ARE AMBIVALENT ABOUT WAR AGAINST EVIL

    • 回复: @OilcanFloyd
  280. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @anarchyst

    The first question is the single most stupid question I have seen in many , many years.
    Why did germans keep records of everything…..down to the gold fillings in jewish teeth?
    Because……wait for it…….they are germans!
    That’s what germans do, they are a very meticulous people.
    You obviously never went to Germany.
    They even kept an extra set of books just in case!
    And why would they build camps?
    Because now they could kill 2000 people with Cyklon B in 15 minutes and cremate them in the same building!
    Efficiency is another german trademark.
    The rest is just ramblings from a complete idiot – jewish population went from 18 to 12 million after WW2 – sure, they just disappeared into thin air or died from typhoid.
    Or you could take a trip to Bad Arolsen and read the files yourself……you have to learn german though and somehow I think that would be too much a challenge.

  281. @anonymouse

    “Israel paid compensation.”
    那他妈的是什么?

    “显然,他们误认为这艘船是一艘不友好的苏联信息收集船。 ”
    Citation needed. What is your source of this? There is plenty of evidence they knew what they were doing.

    “This was during their 1967 war. So?”
    I see, so in your mind the sinking of the Lusitania by a german u-boat was fine and dandy because it happened “during their war”. Some fine logic you got going there, pal.

  282. Boris 说:

    I see, so in your mind the sinking of the Lusitania by a german u-boat was fine and dandy because it happened “during their war”.

    Who is writing stupid articles about the Lusitania and how it proves all Germans are evil?

    You people keep proving that the obsession with the USS Liberty is driven by your own biases.

  283. iffen 说:
    @Talha

    You can’t claim the “moral and humane” position in this debate (it’s against the rules) because that leaves the person disagreeing with you (and I do disagree with you) as “immoral and inhuman.”

    • 回复: @Talha
  284. @SolontoCroesus

    I tend to to doubt that S2C. I don’t see much questioning of Jews or Israel coming from American churches. If anything, the church is running cover and supporting philosemitism.

    Whatever the case, Jews could help themselves by not having allegiance to Israel, voting like Puerto Ricans, supporting every sort of anti-Americanism and anti-white views that can be dredged up, putting forth groups like AIPAC, SPLC, ADL, etc., or pushing for war in the ME. Jews are a major source of their own problems. As much as I dislike organized Christianity, I really don’t care what happens to Jews, or if they are scapegoated. A thorn removed is still a thorn removed.

  285. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    jewish population went from 18 to 12 million after WW2 – sure, they just disappeared into thin air or died from typhoid.

    Many Jews fled Poland for Russia, where they were safe and invisible — got lost in the chaos.
    Many Jews fled Germany and Poland for Palestine, where their entry was contrary to British mandate regulations — might not have been counted.
    A lot of Jews gained entry to USA, to South American countries; some even accepted Trujillo’s offer. A lot of Jews remained in France and Italy. and Switzerland.

    A lot of entries at Yad Vashem are duplicates.

    A lot of the claims of having lost family are based on faulty memory — reasonable, in view of the confusion & trauma of fleeing, etc.

    Another thing: the British were listening to almost everything SS was saying to each other and to their superiors. The records of those conversations still exist; the British keep them locked up. Wouldn’t you think the British would release those reams of documents if they supported the 6 million claim?

  286. Talha 说:
    @iffen

    亲爱的iffen,

    No debating from me (others definitely are)…I’m simply stating my position and even that is a clarification to what others have posted. Remember, my participation simply started as a reply to juster (juster, you there man? or did maverick really shoot you down?) in order to outline some things people have criticized Jewish people for.

    But as far as your comment, let me clarify further…

    the person disagreeing with you (and I do disagree with you) as “immoral and inhuman.”

    That is induction, but comes to a false conclusion. There is some truth to your statement in this sense…

    I have zero compunctions in stating the following:
    Anyone (Jewish or not) who is well-informed of the historical and current facts of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and backs Israeli current policy without qualifications has indeed taken an immoral and inhumane stance with regard to that conflict.

    This is fairly easy for me to do. I recognize most of the governments in the Middle East are horrendous and have many inhumane and immoral policies; imprisonment without due process, torture, projecting military force beyond their borders and in violation of agreements they are signatory to, support of their own ethno-linguistic group to the detriment of others (inside and outside their borders), etc.

    I simply refuse to give Israel a pass where others would.

    As for other people who do not fall into that statement I made above; they may fall into the following categories:
    1. Immoral and inhumane – informed or not – they don’t care about who is disenfranchising or killing Arabs as long as the body bags are piling up.
    2. Misinformed – take their marching orders from the sainted Bill O’Reilly or his cohorts.
    3. Ignorant – Jimbo is too busy swiping on Tinder in order to attain the next feel-up so he doesn’t have time to analyze the position of his political party (which he backs without question in order to get into someone’s pants).

    Makes sense now?

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

    • 回复: @iffen
  287. Talha 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    亲爱的 S2C,

    Not my intention to aggravate or cause conflict, so please don’t take this as such.

    First, ‘Talha’ [طلحئ] is a name for males in Arabic. However, it is on a female structure, thus the confusion is not surprising. Male names of this type have specific grammar rules attached to them.

    无论如何…

    I won’t go into your comments about what I may have done in antebellum North America, however – as far as my conversation with the Rabbi:
    1. I don’t always bring up politics in every conversation that I have; ie. if I am talking to my kid’s teacher, I don’t ask them what their stance on the invasion of Iraq was.
    2. He may well have been in total agreement with me vis-a-vis Israeli policy – I just don’t know since the conversation never got there.
    3. I was in LAX, and I am a visibly obvious Muslim male (I have a beard and a skull cap). Anyone in my position who does not approach any and all conversations in an airport in post-9/11 America with complete cordiality, seems to me, to be either; 1) insane, 2) been living in a cave, 3) or seems tired of life and is pondering the epitaph on his own grave. 🙁

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

    • 回复: @Talha
    , @RobinG
  288. @Anonymous

    I don’t think anyone is claiming the six million figure anymore. There is no doubt that the Germans rounded up lots of people, including Jews, and put them in camps. Probably most also had their belongings confiscated to be used in the war effort, which is common in wartime. But none of that equals genocide, or is proof that Jews were the greatest victims. If non-Jews were grouped together as Jews were, instead of being separated by nationality, I doubt that Jews were even the largest group of victims by sheer number.

    If large numbers of the dead in the camps died during the last part of the war from disease and starvation when Germany was being bombed back to the stone age, or during the early stages of the war at the hands of German allies in retaliation for their role in prior Bolshevik crimes and killings, then the scope and scale of the traditional holocaust narrative, the crimes of the Nazis, and the victim status of Jews are exaggerated. All of that seems likely to me.

    • 回复: @tbraton
  289. Talha 说:
    @Talha

    So sorry, realized an egregious spelling mistake – in my own name nonetheless – which should have been caught before the timeout! How embarrassing – :s

    This is the proper form:
    塔哈

    And anyone with a background in Arabic will immediately recognize the feminine (ة) at the end.

  290. anarchyst 说:
    @Anonymous

    You, my friend are no engineer…as I am… the “gas chambers” at Auschwitz could not have been used for what you claim–no gas-tight doors, no easy means of retrieving bodies, no ventilation system. The “operators” of the facilities would have killed themselves operating the facility. Your holocaust ™ tale is going “up in smoke” Ha Ha…the Russian communists “recreated” the camp as a propaganda piece…
    Why don’t you tell me the story about the jewish “soap” and “lampshades”?

    The 6 million figure was bandied about since the late 1800s…

  291. anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @juster

    Kind of sucks being Jewish right now to be honest. I can’t speak for the elites but it would seem that no, they have not learned the lessons of history, except insofar as Israel does have nuclear weapons and so won’t be genocided without taking everybody else with them.

    The threat to use nuclear weapons is the gravest threat to the Middle East and to the world.
    It’s stunning that someone, anyone, can blithely post such a dangerous comment with seeming pride. It’s not the comment of a self-aware, critically thinking individual.

    Phil Giraldi and his team are to be applauded for the efforts to ensure that the world does not forget the treacherous attack on the Liberty.

    狐蝠在迪莫纳 revealed that the 1967 war involved an attempt by Russia to destroy Israel’s nascent nuclear weapons project.

    Reining in Israel’s nuclear weapons and the threat it poses to the region needs to be accomplished.

    Dan Joyner posted on his blog, ArmsControlLaw.com, that such an initiative is underway:

    It’s Time to Outlaw Nuclear Weapons

    Perhaps for the first time, the nuclear-weapon states are really afraid. Not because of their enemies’ nuclear weapons, let alone their own, but because of the likely start of multilateral negotiations for a nuclear-weapons ban. The odds are good that nuclear weapons will be declared illegal in the foreseeable future.

    In fact, it is surprising that nuclear weapons are not yet declared illegal, just as chemical and biological weapons are. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the cornerstone of the nuclear nonproliferation and disarmament regime, only forbids the possession of nuclear weapons. The five nuclear-weapon states that acquired nuclear weapons before the entry into force of the NPT—the United States, Russia, the UK, France and China—were allowed to keep them. At the same time, they pledged to get rid of them. The problem is that this promise dates back to 1970 and there are still fifteen thousand nuclear weapons in the world, endangering every state, not just the few nuclear-weapon states.

  292. iffen 说:
    @Talha

    Please take no offense. I was not suggesting that I am worthy of debating you.

    I will simply state my position.

    BTW, you throw a lot of superfluous shit into the conversation, even so, this jimbo cops to lustfully gazing upon scantily clad women on occasion.

    If you look down at the bottom of the comment section, you will see a pool of crocodile tears. These tears have been shed for the Palestinians by people who don’t give a rat’s ass for the welfare of the Palestinians. They only say that they care because they hate “The Jews.”

    My interest in the matter derives from the fact that my country financially supports Israel and I would like for us to stop.

    I don’t really have a “side”; Israeli or Palestinian. They can fight over the land. As far as I know people have fought over land since people appeared.

    I do feel bad when I see people suffering from war and conflict, and I feel a little worse when my government has contributed to the effort. I do my part, I almost always vote for the candidate who presents as the lesser warmonger.

    Do you take sides in every conflict?

    Serb/Croat; Ukrainian/Russian; Hutu/ Tutsi; Kurd/Turk, Syrian, Iranian; Armenian/Turk; Orangemen/IRA; Boer/Bantu?

    Or is Israeli/Palestinian a special case?

    • 回复: @Art
    , @Talha
  293. Art 说:
    @Sam Shama

    Realistically Art, if you notice my exchanges with Geokat, Alexander and Robin, you might get a clue that we are questioning and debating ideas and possible courses of action.

    山姆,

    Realistically we are doing what we can – we are talking against Jew coercion of our culture. We are having some success.

    It is YOU who has the heaving lifting to do – you have to convince YOUR people to change their ways.

    May I suggest that you resurrect Moses as a Jewish hero.

    艺术

  294. Art 说:
    @iffen

    These tears have been shed for the Palestinians by people who don’t give a rat’s ass for the welfare of the Palestinians. They only say that they care because they hate “The Jews.”

    People care about the instability created by Israel regarding the Palestinian people – end of story.

    How much has 9/11 and what has followed cost the American people?

    Our mistreatment of the Palestinians in favor of Israel was a major cause of 9/11 – PERIOD.

    The US Jew has done America NO favors.

  295. RobinG 说:
    @Talha

    To wit –

    “The account of a UC Berkeley researcher who was removed from a flight after a fellow passenger heard him speak Arabic on his phone has drawn condemnation and outrage for the airline, Southwest, about a perceived pattern of barring travel.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/16/southwest-airlines-man-removed-flight-arabic
    Southwest Airlines draws outrage over man removed for speaking Arabic

  296. Talha 说:
    @iffen

    亲爱的伊芬,

    you throw a lot of superfluous shit into the conversation

    Crudely stated, but point taken; you’re a busy man, I’ll respect your time and be more concise.

    If you look down at the bottom of the comment section, you will see a pool of crocodile tears.

    Indeed, and if you look further down, you’ll see the ‘superfluous’ pile of poo – flung by many of the same – that people like me have to duck since we won’t kowtow to the ritual two-minute-hate against all Jews.

    I almost always vote for the candidate who presents as the lesser warmonger

    好极了!

    Do you take sides in every conflict?

    Sure, insofar as:
    1) I can research enough to come to an informed decision.
    2) One can conclude that there is actually a side to take; such that one can publicly advocate and pray for the oppressed party. Especially when one’s tax dollars are involved.

    There are some conflicts that are just meat grinders; there are no good sides. Syria reminds me of this. In this case, one should call for immediate cessation of hostilities and support relief efforts for the afflicted population.

    Or is Israeli/Palestinian a special case?

    It is not a special case, as regards the above principles, but it is, no doubt, a unique one.

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

  297. iffen 说:

    Crudely stated, but point taken;

    Yes, I acknowledge and regret my limitations as a writer. It is a small satisfaction to know that I am clear enough to be understood.

    Do you take sides in every conflict?

    Sure, insofar as:
    1) I can research enough to come to an informed decision.
    2) One can conclude that there is actually a side to take; such that one can publicly advocate and pray for the oppressed party. Especially when one’s tax dollars are involved.

    Or is Israeli/Palestinian a special case?

    It is not a special case, as regards the above principles, but it is, no doubt, a unique one.

    If your historical research has been inadequate or if you have mis-interpreted some of the information then you are left with it being a special case, not to mention unique.

    You claim the “moral” position.

    Like Joe Webb, I am a materialist. As part of that materialism I know that there is no “Morality” as such. We make up our Morality as we go along, just like we make up our Truth.

    We also disagree on what is or is not superfluous.

    • 回复: @Talha
  298. Talha 说:
    @iffen

    亲爱的iffen,

    If your historical research has been inadequate or if you have mis-interpreted some of the information

    I make no claims to be infallible.

    We make up our Morality as we go along, just like we make up our Truth.

    Indeed, materialism cannot possibly lead to any other conclusion.

    愿上帝保佑你和你的。

  299. hes 说:
    @anonymouse

    Shalom, shalom, sayan. Good try, but… You know… You “chosen” always lie.

  300. hes 说:
    @Anonymouse

    Shalom, shalom, sayan. Because you nazi jews were afraid Liberty could monitor your fake radio “arab” communication. You wanted the war so you transmitted “arab preparation for attack”. Your usual tactics.

    • 回复: @Boris
  301. tbraton 说:
    @OilcanFloyd

    It should be pointed out that Anne Frank, the poster girl of the Holocaust, was transferred from Auschwitz to Bergen-Belsen, where she died apparently of typhus. I am sure the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. counts her among the “six million.”I am sure that, if you asked people at random how Anne Frank died, the overwhelming number would answer “the gas chambers.” But here is what Wikipedia says about her:

    “Anne and her sister, Margot, were eventually transferred to Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, where they died (probably of typhus) in February or March 1945, just weeks before the camp was liberated in April.[3]”

    “28 月 8,000 日,开始选择女性搬迁到卑尔根-贝尔森。 包括安妮和玛戈特弗兰克以及奥古斯特范佩尔斯在内的 52 多名妇女被运送。 伊迪丝弗兰克被留下,后来死于饥饿。 [1945] 为了容纳涌入的囚犯,在卑尔根-贝尔森搭建了帐篷,随着人口的增加,因疾病造成的死亡人数迅速增加。 弗兰克与被限制在营地另一部分的两个朋友 Hanneli Goslar 和 Nanette Blitz 短暂团聚。 戈斯拉尔和布里茨在战争中幸存下来,后来讨论了他们隔着栅栏与弗兰克进行的简短对话。 闪电战将安妮描述为秃头、憔悴、颤抖。 戈斯拉尔指出,奥古斯特·范佩尔斯与安妮和玛格特·弗兰克在一起,并正在照顾重病的玛格特。 他们都没有看到玛戈特,因为她太虚弱了,不能离开她的铺位。 安妮告诉 Blitz 和 Goslar,她相信她的父母已经死了,因此她不想再活下去了。 戈斯拉尔后来估计他们的会议是在 53 年 XNUMX 月下旬或 XNUMX 月上旬举行的。 [XNUMX]
    In early 1945, a typhus epidemic spread through the camp, killing 17,000 prisoners.[54] Other diseases, including typhoid fever, were rampant.[55] Due to these chaotic conditions, it is not possible to say what ultimately caused Anne’s death. Witnesses later testified Margot fell from her bunk in her weakened state and was killed by the shock. Anne died a few days after Margot. The exact dates of Margot and Anne’s deaths were not recorded. It was long thought that their deaths occurred only a few weeks before British soldiers liberated the camp on 15 April 1945,[56] but new research in 2015 indicated that they may have died as early as February of that year.[57] Among other evidence, witnesses recalled that the Franks displayed typhus symptoms by 7 February,[3][58] and Dutch health authorities reported that most untreated typhus victims died within 12 days of their first symptoms.[57] After liberation, the camp was burned in an effort to prevent further spread of disease; the sisters were buried in a mass grave at an unknown location.”

    I agree with you that terrible things were done to the Jews during WWII–as were done to many people of different ethnicities and nationalities—but that iconic “6 million” figure seems more than a little shaky and dubious, especially after it didn’t budge following the much advertised (e.g., NY Times and Washington Post, among others) downward revision in the number of Jews who died at Auschwitz from 4 million to 1 million back in the 90’s.

    BTW with respect to my comment above about Anne Frank serving as symbol of the “six million” Wikipedia has these comments:

    “In the same year [i.e., 1961], the Soviet writer Ilya Ehrenburg wrote of her: “one voice speaks for six million—the voice not of a sage or a poet but of an ordinary little girl.”[81]”

    “Primo Levi suggested Anne Frank is frequently identified as a single representative of the millions of people who suffered and died as she did because “One single Anne Frank moves us more than the countless others who suffered just as she did but whose faces have remained in the shadows. Perhaps it is better that way; if we were capable of taking in all the suffering of all those people, we would not be able to live.”[79] In her closing message in Müller’s biography of Anne Frank, Miep Gies expressed a similar thought, though she attempted to dispel what she felt was a growing misconception that “Anne symbolises the six million victims of the Holocaust”, writing: “Anne’s life and death were her own individual fate, an individual fate that happened six million times over. Anne cannot, and should not, stand for the many individuals whom the Nazis robbed of their lives … But her fate helps us grasp the immense loss the world suffered because of the Holocaust.”[85]

  302. Boris 说:
    @hes

    See? My observation that USS Liberty “questions” correlate highly with antisemitic rhetoric has been borne out by examples in this thread multiple times.

    Also, “nazi jew” is an insult I would expect from someone suffering from some sort of brain damage. This certainly wouldn’t 时刻 是这样。

    • 回复: @Art
  303. Art 说:
    @Boris

    See? My observation that USS Liberty “questions” correlate highly with antisemitic rhetoric has been borne out by examples in this thread multiple times.

    亲爱的鲍里斯,

    I see – its automatic – if we talk about the USS Liberty – you call us anti-Semite – how daring – how intellectual – how brave.

    It must be fun being a Little Jew lemming – did you graduate at the top of your hasbara class?

    You’ll must be sweethearts in your little brown shirts. (Tell us – do you have secret hand signals?)

    Have fun Little Jew — Yours – Art

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  304. Boris 说:
    @Art

    I see – its automatic – if we talk about the USS Liberty – you call us anti-Semite – how daring – how intellectual – how brave.

    I merely noted the correlation and you and others provided evidence for it.

    It must be fun being a Little Jew lemming – did you graduate at the top of your hasbara class?

    You’ll must be sweethearts in your little brown shirts. (Tell us – do you have secret hand signals?)

    Have fun Little Jew

    Are you going to argue that you don’t hate Jews? What kind of moron would believe you if you did?

    What are you whining about again?

  305. Anonymous • 免责声明 说:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Yet again another account of mistreatment of Alison Weir. While other accounts of her martyrdom may be accurate, this one is not what happened at Stanford. I do not know the person who wrote the narrative, but I am surprised. Alison Weir was NOT invited to the Stanford event. She brought copies of her book to sell and she brought flyers from her organization. When told she could not sell her goods on the campus, she ignored the request to pack up. Finally some faculty members who have supported and worked with Stanford SJP since its inception stepped in and ended the lip-biting situation. While I am perfectly willing to admit that Zionist organizations often try to close down Palestinian events on college campases, that is not what happened at Stanford. Creating fictive martyrologies does not help the cause of freedom for Palestine.

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他们在与中东打交道时不应该退缩吗?
华盛顿启用的现代格尔尼卡
在提名候选人之前给候选人施加压力
但是它甚至是朋友吗?
今天的中央情报局是为承包商和官僚服务的,而不是为国家服务的。