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揭穿阴谋论的最佳方法是什么? 称其为阴谋论,一个本身就暗示着怀疑的标签。 唯一的问题是在历史上和现在都有许多实际的阴谋,其中许多在本质上根本不是理论上的。 多种阴谋导致美国参与了两次世界大战。 不管人们对唐纳德·特朗普总统有什么看法,都必须承认他是许多阴谋的受害者,首先是拒绝他获得共和党提名,然后是确保他在总统选举中被击败,然后是彻底取消其合法性。他的总统职位。

在特朗普之前,有许多阴谋“理论”,其中许多都是相当合理的。 我想到了国防部长詹姆斯福雷斯特的“自杀”,然后是约翰肯尼迪遇刺,这被认为是古巴和以色列的功劳。 然后是 9/11,也许是最大的阴谋论。 以色列清楚地知道它即将到来,当双子塔倒塌时,见证了五个跳舞的 Shlomos 在新泽西州嬉戏和拍摄自己。 此外,沙特人可能在资助甚至指挥所谓的劫机者方面发挥了作用。 我们还发现新保守派密谋捏造伊拉克大规模杀伤性武器的信息,以及这些参与者持续密谋将伊朗描绘成对美国的威胁。

鉴于美国目前正在经历多重危机,对阴谋的猜测可能不可避免地达到有史以来的最高水平。 对于普通美国人来说,由于政治和经济精英从根本上无能,所以这个国家如何变得如此糟糕是无法理解的,因此必须继续寻找替罪羊。

目前有许多关于冠状病毒的阴谋论。 那些选择相信该病毒实际上是一种被利用来剥夺他们自由的流感的自由主义者和逆向主义者相信,政府和媒体中的许多人已经密谋出售本质上是一种欺诈的东西。 一位这样的蛇油推销员坚持使用一个类比,即由于死于车祸的美国人比死于冠状病毒的美国人更多,因此禁止汽车比要求戴口罩更合适。

另一种流行的理论指责微软亿万富翁比尔盖茨试图通过引入一种控制冠状病毒的疫苗来接管世界的医疗保健系统,这可能是他首先创造的。 许多与极权主义政权或疯狂亿万富翁利用虚假疾病制造恐惧以控制公民有关的病毒“阴谋”的谬误在于,它过多地相信任何政府或个人的能力完成如此规模的欺诈。 这将需要人们比特朗普-蓬佩奥甚至盖茨的标签团队更聪明,才能说服全世界以及成千上万的医生和科学家,他们应该因为完全虚假的事情而封锁整个国家。

其他冠状病毒理论包括该病毒是在美国开发的,由一名叛国的美国科学家出口到中国,在武汉成为武器,然后作为共产主义摧毁资本主义和民主的阴谋的一部分在西方释放。 这意味着我们已经在与中国交战,或者至少我们应该如此。 然后有一个被广泛接受的理论,即病毒是在武汉制造并从实验室逃逸出来的。 从那时起,北京一直在进行掩饰,这就是阴谋。 这是白宫青睐的一个主题,除了给这种疾病分配有趣的“黄祸”名称外,白宫还没有决定如何处理它,这样每个戴着 MAGA 帽子的人都会在 XNUMX 月的大选前笑出声来。

但除了开玩笑之外,还有一些阴谋论比其他阴谋论更值得考虑。 一个是乔治·索罗斯(George Soros)和他控制并资助的所谓开放社会基金会(Open Society Foundations)在席卷美国的骚乱中所扮演的角色。 诚然,针对索罗斯的指控证据不足,但阴谋贩子会指出,这是一场精心策划的阴谋,类似于这位 89 岁的匈牙利犹太亿万富翁长期以来一直从事的阴谋。 当前一轮关于开放社会和索罗斯的声明每天产生多达 500,000 万条推文,每月在 Facebook 上发布近 70,000 万条帖子,其中大部分来自政治保守派。

这些指控往往属于 两大类. 首先,索罗斯雇佣抗议者/暴徒并将他们运送到示威活动中,在那里他们得到砖头和燃烧弹,将集会变成骚乱。 其次,开放社会正在资助或以其他方式促成非法移民进入美国的不稳定流动。

索罗斯和他的支持者,其中许多人是犹太人,因为他们认为他们在对匈牙利人的袭击中看到了反犹太主义,声称支持全球民主化和自由贸易。 实际上,他是世界领先的全球主义者之一。 正如陈词滥调所说,索罗斯声称自己是一股“向善的力量”,但他 32 亿美元的基金会没有在幕后运作,以肯定不民主的方式影响事态发展,这完全可信吗?

事实上,索罗斯通过秃鹫资本主义积累了巨额财富。 1 年,他通过卖空 1992 亿美元英镑赚了超过 10 亿美元,导致媒体称他为“打破英格兰银行的人”。 他被指控在欧洲和亚洲进行类似的货币操纵。 1999 年, “纽约时报” 经济学家保罗克鲁格曼写道:“过去几年读过商业杂志的人不会不知道,如今确实有投资者不仅在预期货币危机时转移资金,而且实际上尽最大努力触发为乐趣和利润而危机。”

索罗斯远不是一个被动的旁观者,向民主团体提供有用的建议,而是积极参与东欧前共产主义政权的重组,并参与了 2003 年格鲁吉亚所谓的玫瑰革命和 2014 年乌克兰的迈丹革命,两者都得到美国政府的支持,意在威胁俄罗斯的地区安全。

索罗斯特别讨厌普京总统和俄罗斯。 他透露,他远不是一个为正义而战的仁慈人物。 “金融时报” 专栏(在付费墙后面)题为“欧洲必须与土耳其站在一起,反对普京在叙利亚的战争罪行”。

这篇专栏文章充满了事实错误,基本上是在呼吁对他描述为轰炸学校和医院的俄罗斯进行侵略。 它的开头是,“自 2015 年 XNUMX 月开始干预叙利亚以来,俄罗斯不仅试图维持其最忠实的阿拉伯盟友叙利亚总统巴沙尔·阿萨德的地位。 它还希望重新获得自苏联解体以来失去的地区和全球影响力。” 首先,俄罗斯没有“干预”叙利亚。 它应该国合法政府的邀请在那里为各种团体提供援助,其中一些团体与试图推翻阿萨德总统的基地组织和伊斯兰国有关。

除了索罗斯之外,很少有真正的俄罗斯专家会声称它正在寻求重建苏联的“影响力”。 莫斯科没有这样做的资源,也没有表现出追求那种具有苏联国家特征的全球议程的愿望。

然后是完全夸张地说:“弗拉基米尔·普京试图利用中东的动荡来抹杀自二战以来国际人道法的国际规范和进步。 事实上,造成近 6 万叙利亚人成为难民的人道主义灾难并不是俄罗斯总统在叙利亚战略的副产品。 这是他的核心目标之一。” 请注意,索罗斯的任何断言都没有事实支持。

索罗斯的专栏文章还包括一些回忆,描述了“2014 年,我敦促欧洲醒悟到俄罗斯对其战略利益构成的威胁。” 这篇专栏文章显示,索罗斯既不是和解的,也不是“外交的”,这清楚地表明他根据意识形态考虑来挑选敌人,这也促使他选择如何构建自己的企业。 鉴于所有这一切,为什么难以想象乔治·索罗斯参与了一场阴谋,他至少暗中支持 Antifa 和 Black Lives Matter 的一些混乱以及非法移民的泛滥,这可能共同导致了致命的不稳定美国?

菲利普·吉拉迪(Philip Giraldi)博士是国家利益委员会执行董事。

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  1. I once heard the wildest conspiracy theory.

    The claim is that Euro-whites VACUUMED fur fish tobacco cotton sugar gold silver oil bison timber AS FAST AS POSSIBLE so that they — anglos francos belgians dutch spanish portuguese german — could build the STRONGEST possible armies with which to further conquer and subjugate indigenous people of resource rich faraway lands, and with which to SLAUGHTER ONE ANOTHER on land and at sea.

    The CT even says they did this for CENTURIES.

    It even says that when asked why they don’t consider an alternative to the religion of “Kill and grow, or die”, the goto response is: “Us goyim can’t POSSIBLY be expected to legislate and enforce acceptable financial conduct when we are super-majorities. We’re goyim!” which is a fine rallying call to high calibre white men.

  2. For those unfamiliar with the Soros/Israeli/CIA coup in the Republic of Georgia, here is a short video:

    • 谢谢: Jazman, Alfred
  3. JasonT 说:

    “It would require people a whole lot smarter than the tag team of Trump-Pompeo or even Gates to convince the world and thousands of doctors and scientists that they should lock down entire countries over something completely phony.”

    These, and Soros, are the front men. The real brains are hidden from sight.

    • 回复: @TheTrumanShow
    , @Herald
    , @Getaclue
  4. Conspiracies abound – no doubt, but what I doubt is that there is some central group in 控制 这一切。

    Life is a shit-storm and a particularly large wad of shit is heading towards the fan. Nefarious cabals attempt to gain the best advantage for themselves, but no one is in control.

    • 同意: SunBakedSuburb
  5. anonymous[233]• 免责声明 说:

    This article is proof that you never retire from CIA. Here Giraldi is on the job, beavering away with jaw-dropping doublethink.

    He undertakes to debunk CIA memo 1035-960 with actual conspiracies, a laudable effort on the face of it. But his ‘actual’ conspiracies are insults to your intelligence, absurd distortions of the overwhelming evidence implicating CIA.

    He represses CIA’s demonstrated command and execution of the coup d’état against JFK, as comprehensively summarized by Douglass (and Salandria and Prouty and Valentine and many others:)

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/jfk-and-the-unspeakable-why-he-died-and-why-it-matters/16273

    He represses the overwhelming open-source evidence of CIA command and execution of 9/11.

    https://www.spyculture.com/clandestime-117-alternative-history-al-qaeda-911-intelligence-failure/

    This is a common tactic among domestic CIA propagandists: skate over unsupported assertions on the way to a separate topic, leaving core CIA doctrine as an unexamined notion picked while you were pondering something else (in this case, the evident verity that George Soros is fulla shit.)

    Credit where credit is due, Giraldi never censors people calling bullshit. But as these researchers point out, it is freeing to acknowledge CIA’s proven impunity and concomitant control of the US. It is possible that collateral has given Giraldi a convincing simulacrum of knowledge about the crimes he cites. But compartmentation is a critical element of CIA criminal enterprise. It makes innocent dupes out of henchmen. Giraldi has yet to unbrainwash himself. His insider knowledge is pure Juche.

    • 同意: TheTrumanShow
  6. A123 说:

    One would be the role of George Soros and the so-called Open Society Foundations that he controls and funds in the unrest that is sweeping across the United States.

    The most powerful Muslim on the planet is George IslamoSoros. Weakening the United States to make it vulnerable to Jihad is part of his concealed Islamic agenda. His programs to import rape-ugees to Europe is a conspiracy to weaken European nations for eventual forced conversion to Islam

    Despite his ancestry, it is proven & indisputable fact that George IslamoSoros is not a practicing Jew. He has jettisoned that faith. He is so anti-Semitic the Jewish people of the Jewish Nation openly warn the world… The IslamoSoros hates Jews and seeks their extermination. (1)

    与领导或支持反犹太抵制,撤资和制裁(BDS)运动试图使犹太国家合法化的组织之间,与亿万富翁激进主义者乔治·索罗斯(George Soros)相关的融资是一个普遍但未被充分报道的主题。

    20月,以色列发布了XNUMX个支持BDS的组织的名单,这些组织的成员由于其BDS积极性而将被禁止进入以色列,其中以六个美国团体为主要代表。 六个促进BDS的美国团体中至少有四个团体获得了与索罗斯(Soros)相关的资金。 许多其他支持BDS运动的美国组织由索罗斯(Soros)资助。

    Useful idiots of Semitic ancestry (a.k.a. Dhimmis) misrepresent Hungary’s position as anti-Jewish, when it is not. Orban’s transgression is refusal to accept Muslim rape-ugees that would destabilize his nation. Accurate understanding of the Muslim threat is the #1 fear of the IslamoSoros, so he sends his Dhimmi minions out to smear and discredit the nation that has seen through his machinations.
    ____

    The author is correct that George IslamoSoros is the key figure in a number of conspiracies. Alas, he has been victimised by disinformation psyops that misrepresent these conspiracies as Jewish.

    witness the Five Dancing Shlomos cavorting and filming themselves in New Jersey as the twin towers went down.

    Except that this never happened. It was fabricated to deceive.

    People on the ground report the TRUTH. Muslims in New Jersey were dancing and celebrating the attack on the Twin Towers (2)

    more than two dozen interviews conducted since Nov. 25, found Trump’s broad assertion that thousands of people cheered to be baseless. At the same time, the inquiry provides the first credible indication of at least two modest celebrations, as described by on-the-record sources who say they witnessed the behavior.

    “When I saw they were happy, I was pissed,” said Ron Knight, 56, a Tonnele Avenue resident who said he heard cries of “Allahu Akbar” as he shouldered his way through a crowd of 15 to 20 people on John F. Kennedy Boulevard that morning.

    ____

    The conspiracies are very real, but the end goal is Jihad. Attempting to derail clandestine operations of The IslamoSoros require understanding his true goals. Be wary, attempts to pit Infidels against each other are part of The IslamoSoros conspiracy.

    Jews, Christians, and all other Infidels must join ranks to defeat this imminent Islamic threat to human freedom.

    和平😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/01/21/target-israel-george-soros-funded-groups-leading-bds-war-on-jewish-state/

    (2) https://www.nj.com/news/2015/12/exclusive_jersey_city_cop_residents_say_some_musli.html

  7. Reg Cæsar 说:

    Instead of fairly distributing the wealth created by globalisation, Soros argued, capitalism’s “winners” failed to “compensate the losers”, which led to a drastic increase in domestic inequality – and anger.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/06/the-george-soros-philosophy-and-its-fatal-flaw

    Sounds like many of the “populists” here.

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  8. A123 说:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Instead of fairly distributing the wealth created by globalisation, Soros argued, capitalism’s “winners” failed to “compensate the losers”, which led to a drastic increase in domestic inequality – and anger.

    Sounds like many of the “populists” here.

    You cannot trust anything the George IslamoSoros sasys. As a Muslim he is a practitioner of Taqiyya, the Muslim covenant that requires lying to Infidels. (1)

    He says he dislikes inequality. However, his actions import replacement workers increasing inequality. Native workers receive less for their effort, or are forced into the dole. The wealthy get to pay their workers less thus keeping more for themselves.

    When George IslamoSoros speaks, look for the deception and/or hidden agenda.

    和平😇
    _______

    (1) http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml

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  9. KA 说:

    Paul Krugman wrote of him that “but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit.”

    Mafia gangster and street thugs wear suits ,fly in chartered planes ,through or without Jeff Espetin blackmail elected officials or kings or sheikhs and invite themselves to talk of clearing the neighborhood’s ideological problems like liberty to screw cat and cat’s owner same time, like hate speech so that the DNA of origin and ideas are not viewed under microscope ,exhort the bribed guests regarding the changing of the draping of the windows so the celebrated gangster wont be seen, identified and even imagined as mafia brigade’s founding member .
    Poor Brooklyn Mafia !.They just never could cross the psychological barriers of stabbing their own benefactors and saviors! What a shame !

  10. Trinity 说:

    I know it is just a “conspiracy theory” that people like George Schwartz aka George (((Soros))) are funding these riots, but if this “conspiracy theory” were indeed true, why aren’t Soros and his (((cohorts))) at least under investigation for treason and murder charges. Wasn’t some little Svengali-like character from the late 1960’s named Charles Manson indicted on murder charges because he allegedly brainwashed his hippie followers to go on a two night killing spree in 1969? Manson was charged with first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder even though he physically wasn’t involved in the Tate-LaBianca murders. How many people (civilian and police) were attacked and murdered during these latest riots? How many were attacked in Ferguson, Baltimore? Who supplied the bricks and food for these “protestors?” After all, one cannot riot, beat up old ladies and pillage without proper nourishment. We all saw the first time with Epstein that some people are above the law and speaking of “conspiracy theories,” Epstein is more than likely roaming the planet as I type this one out. And speaking of Sharon Tate, why is Roman Polanski still roaming about free as a bird?

  11. john cronk 说:

    There is no exit strategy for this haphazard insanity. Once this over-reaction to a fairly innocuous infectious agent was accepted as being necessary, there’s no way to ever declare reversion to normalcy.
    在我看来,与其无休止地专注于这种并非特别有趣的病毒,不如想出限制移动的创意招牌和横幅,破坏人们的生计,在必须站立的人行道上涂上十字架,我们现在应该已经遇到了一个更加明显的问题。 如果这是致命的病原体,该怎么办? 我们为什么不准备快速开放与常规医院断开连接的特殊检疫/治疗中心? 那我们该怎么办呢?
    这次小小的排练表明,如果出现真正的生存威胁,我们将毫无准备。
    但是,不,我们必须继续浪费我们的时间,金钱和精力来发挥作用,这是一次真正的生物危机,并造成我们生活方式的实际崩溃。 我们必须继续加倍努力,因为如果我们对电晕采取更极端的措施,那将证明我们到目前为止所证明的愚蠢行为是必要的……是吗?

    [更多]

    考虑到处理日冕病毒的方式,人们会认为我们没有意识到人们会非常规律地死亡,尤其是当他们处于不良状况时。 现在,我们实际上要求没有人死于感染微生物-我们应该呆在家里屏住呼吸,直到每个人都得以生存。 从什么时候开始我们相信过? 这就是我们建立文明的方式吗? 我们正在摧毁的文明?

    对胰岛素敏感的人-具有健康的免疫状况且没有新陈代谢疾病-几乎没有理由自己呆在家里,戴口罩或“与社会保持距离”。 由于他们不会患重病,因此他们待在家里无助于“平缓曲线”使负担过多的医疗保健系统的病人(通常,这要牺牲我们所有人的精力)。 相反,积极健康的人可以为经济做出贡献。

    牛群豁免权的主要好处是它将使该国再次发挥作用。 这将对每个人(无论是健康还是患病)都有益。 无论携带者的总体健康状况是好是坏,新陈代谢/免疫受损的人都容易感染与他有染病并具有暂时传染性的任何人感染日冕病毒。 这就是免疫功能低下的人无处不在的现象。 保护这些最脆弱的人群免受COVID的答案-只是两方面的危害之一,而COVID只是他们面临的许多健康威胁之一。 最好的是他们开始正确饮食。 和/或,我们可以在需要的地方建造尽可能多的设备和医疗设施。 这些解决方案中的任何一种都比我们现在做的要可行得多,破坏力更小,成本也更低。 无论采用哪种解决方案,健康的人们都不会因为拥有正常的人类活力而受到惩罚。

    在政府,卫生机构和科学家采取措施升级护理设施,设备和治疗的可用性的同时,个人应遵循此原则
    冠状病毒协议
    A部分(所有人)
    开始治疗饮食以快速升级和调节免疫系统。 全部或大部分由以下内容组成:
    自家煮熟的肉,油性鱼,鸡蛋(特别是蛋黄),动物脂肪,骨肉汤,胶原蛋白或明胶以及肝脏,并去除了玉米,大豆,低芥酸菜子,红花,葵花籽,葡萄籽和米糠油以及面粉,糖和预制食品。

    B部分(最容易发生COVID并发症的人-BMI较高或患有慢性健康问题或正在服用处方药等的人)
    在遵循A部分的操作规程的同时,请采取合理的预防措施,以减少可能受到他人感染的风险,例如限制时间或与他人紧密接触时戴上口罩。

    • 同意: Skeptikal
    • 谢谢: Anonymousse
    • 回复: @AaronInMVD
  12. Trinity 说:

    Other “conspiracy theories.”

    Charles (((Lieber))) and the (((coronavirus))) * Another COHENcidence?

    The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion ( Seems like everything written has become true?)

    The holocaust has been greatly exaggerated ( What does any sane person think?)

    Moon Landing was a hoax. ( I actually think we did land on the Moon, so I either fell for the lie or don’t buy the “conspiracy theory” aka the truth in most cases.)

    Jews control America. Jews control the media. Jews control the Federal Reserve. ( Judge for yourself.)

    • 回复: @anonymous
  13. @john cronk

    真正令人不安的是,这些胡说八道被接受和规范化的程度如何。 当然,现在有人认识到封锁是愚蠢的,但是……他们利用这些知识所做的只是谈论它。 话多,行动少。 董事会上唯一活跃的部分正在四处奔波,试图进行一场文化革命,并在绝对缺乏能量的情况下继续前进。

    这可能是有史以来最久坐不动的崩溃。 世界正朝着漫长的黑暗时代迈进,而且……由于缺乏反应,人们似乎只是顺其自然。 欢迎来到未来。 1984 年的一点点,大量的白痴,还有一大堆矮胖的孩子试图活出他们的哈利波特头条。

    别介意所有对“黑人生活”的关注,而黑人的声音(以免我们忘记不久前的“肖恩国王是跨种族的”丑闻)被排除在谈话之外……胡说八道!

  14. Eighthman 说:

    I don’t find any explanation of 9/11 to be credible. In particular, if Israel did it, how did they coordinate the suicide jihadis on the planes?

  15. 在这篇关于阴谋论的文章中,作者提到了俄罗斯与西方之间日益紧张的关系。 他说,莫斯科“无意追求那种具有苏联国家特征的全球议程”。 可能是这样。 而如今,双方距离冷战中避免的歼灭战又近了一步。 尽管它们拥有的核武器较少,但它们更接近于迫使它们使用的生存威胁。 俄罗斯(从它的角度来看)不太安全——它没有缓冲区。 这不是假新闻或阴谋论,而是历史规律。
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • 回复: @A123
    , @Rev. Spooner
    , @A123
  16. “Sounds like many of the “populists” here.”

    I am not a populist. But the contention (s) you are referring to are no really the argument — not by content.

    The argument is that the suppose winners were and continue unfairly leverage the economic system with the help f government to avoid the consequences of their miscalculations, sometimes innocent, often careless and sometimes deliberate machinations.

    That is quite a different argument than the winners should share more —

    And as much as a capitalist as I am am — I admit that there are goings on which violate the rules of capitalism as well as common decency.

  17. Regarding 9-11.

    In 2001 I used to take the Q58 Bus to Flushing, Queens.

    At the last stop, I forget the street, it was a slow go. Cars double-parked; cars waiting for people; etc. As the Q58 slowly progressed. There was a sign on a building, which was adjacent to a take-out restaurant where pig carcasses would hang from a hook.

    A sign on the building stated: Taliban Mission to the United Nationss.

    In August 2001, it was gone. The Taliban Mission to the United States had decamped.

    I wondered where The Taliban Mission to the United Nations had gone. On 9-11 I knew where.

    Al Qaeda had flown into The World Trade Center.

    Is someone going to tell me that the Federal Bureau of Investigation, NASA, the CIA had never monitored the Taliban Mission?

    I had a friend, who was an attorney (now deceased). He was born in the United States of Chinese descent. He would tell me: The Government knew what was going on.

    谢谢。

    爱德华·曼弗雷多尼亚

    • 回复: @mcohen
  18. obwandiyag 说:
    @anonymous

    You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere. That’s why you can say whatever you want. They want you to express yourself freely. For the record.

    I like how he blames Cuba for Kennedy. Harhar. But even better is how he is a China-did-itter. That is the mark, the true stigma, the true shibboleth, of officially-sanctioned propaganda.

  19. A123 说:
    @peter mcloughlin

    他说,莫斯科“无意追求那种具有苏联国家特征的全球议程”。 可能是这样。 而如今,双方距离冷战中避免的歼灭战又近了一步。

    我谨不同意。

    在特朗普政府下,俄罗斯和美国是 远离战争 比以往任何时候都多。 即使面对虚假的俄罗斯之门调查,普京和特朗普的关系也很好。

    Putin’s egregious error supporting SJW Globalist Germany over the Christians of Poland is an obvious policy failure. Because Trump stands against Germany’s Globalist agression, Russia is receiving some pain over their service to the SJW Elites. Most notably the SJW Nordstream 2 pipeline, which Germany portrays as a 他们意志的胜利。

    然而,似乎没有任何阴谋企图在波德战线上引发战争。 与中印不同,边界的定义和观察都非常明确。
    ____

    如果拜登和新康民主党获胜,事情可能会仓促行事。 不过,民主党全国委员会的好战也不是阴谋。 SJW Globalist DNC 公开渴望外国干预政策。 而且,拜登家族通过代表 Burisma 投资者和其他 1% 精英干预乌克兰,可以获得很多个人利益。

    拜登将出卖美国以谋取私利,这已不是什么秘密。 每个想要和平的人都需要在 XNUMX 月投票给特朗普。

    和平😇

    • 回复: @HeebHunter
  20. I didn’t know that Soros could be so explicit about what he thinks about Putin and Syria and involve himself so concretely with such questions, about which he probably doesn’t know very much (in the last times there have been very interesting articles about Syria, for instance, see links below).

    Even though, I don’t think that he has anything to do with BLM and the protests. Riots and revolts have happened other times without the coordination of people from outside. It happened in 1381 in England. A few years ago it happened in the UK and earlier it happened in the US, (I think when there was a blackout). Now it happened spontaneously in Stuttgart in Germany (apparently).

    Why shouldn’t people complain about the militarisation of the police which uses brutal methods to arrest people, a police which acts as if they had occupaied a country and had to contain a population of enemies?

    The most recent conspiracy was the one to oust Corbyn (the text is relatively short):

    杰里米·科尔宾被杀
    彼得奥本和大卫赫斯特

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/killing-jeremy-corbyn

    The former Labour leader was the victim of a carefully planned and brutally executed political assassination

    About Syria, an important text by an expert, long:

    The Salafist Roots of the Syrian Uprising
    by William Van Wagenen

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/the-salafist-roots-of-the-syrian-uprising/

    Syria: Old Pretexts, New Sanctions, Still Counterproductive
    by Bas Spliet

    https://original.antiwar.com/Bas_Spliet/2020/06/18/syria-old-pretexts-new-sanctions-still-counterproductive/

    • 谢谢: Ann Nonny Mouse, Iris
    • 回复: @Gapeseed
  21. Duke84 说:

    There’s never been any credible evidence that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy or that anyone other then Oswald was involved.He owned both murder weapons.

  22. @04398436986

    I do not get the point, please explain further.

  23. @anonymous

    Agreed. I call it the “bend”. The authors veer of somehow from the line to end up where they have a personal interest and agenda. Always far more banal then the incursion. In this case not only what you refer at so well, but also, again and again insisting on the importance of the elections(indirectly, Trump, Trump, Trump).

  24. How disappointing that Giraldi is a covid conspiracy theory denialist, meaning that he is part of the conspiracy! Hey, Bill Gates, Zuckergberg, Bezos, Sergie Brinn, Larry Page, etc… have all made more money than they could ever possibly spend in their life times off of everyone!

    [更多]

    Obviously, the governments, and corporations are sick of being embarrassed for their fraud, in addition to the education system, rendering them obsolete, and by and large exposed as total frauds!

    No that they have extracted as much as is humanly possible from 7 billion people, they are attempting everyone to volunatarily disconnect and beg the government to shut them down for predation and 5-G. The industries are not willing to confess that Wi-Fi is a far more serious health hazzard than covid.

    Obama issued a space weather warning in October 2016, and everytime the psychopaths get embarrassed, rumors of Chinese EMPs start making the rounds, but the Cloud is stored in thousands of satellites, and Elon Musk has been blasting mini satellites off into space as if the clock is running out!

    Fiber optic cable is also unaffected by EMPs!

    How do you get world and corporate leaders that all have proven to absolutely despise each other that have conflicting interests all to agree on something? Tell them that they will shut the internet down, which removes political dissent and exposure of their fraud and crimes!

    You can either believe me, or Giaraldi, Kiriakou, Galloway, and the others!

    Let the evidence stand! You decide!

    The evidence has proven that the covid deaths and cases have been drastically overstated, because hospitals were bribed \$13,000 a patient to diagnos them with covid, and \$39,000 to place people on ventilators, that covid is no less threatening than the flu, that the testing is extremely inaccurate, that the lock downs cause more health problems than the virus, and that there is no need for a vaccine! More medical professionals and scientists have stated that than those who have been paid to defend the lies! The same glorified drug dealers responsible for the opioid epidemic cannot be expected to simply be believed as credible individuals!

    • 同意: Iva
    • 回复: @Iva
  25. Ari Silver 说:

    上帝保佑你,Philip Giraldi,博士。 国家利益委员会执行主任。

    • 同意: Ace
  26. @anonymous

    “This article is proof that you never retire from CIA. Here Giraldi is on the job, beavering away with jaw-dropping doublethink.”

    I believe the correct term is “limited hangout”, or maybe “controlled opposition”.

    You might want to take at the article just posted at this very site:
    “CIA Project MK-ULTRA”: https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/cia-project-mk-ultra/

    此致onebornfree

  27. anonymous[500]• 免责声明 说:

    (TS/SCI/SKANKPROBOSCIS) Hey speaking of real conspiracy theories, anybody up for a pool on how long it takes Ghislaine to negotiate the plea deal to: (1) blame CIA’s big pedo blackmail op on Mossad; (2) get swapped to Israel for Ben Zygier’s living-dead zombie; (3) turn over the juiciest John Roberts cherry tapes.

  28. anon[818]• 免责声明 说:

    Soros seems to be in relatively good health for 89. Seems like he may be around for a while longer, and one of his sons seems eager to emulate him.

    Covid: I guess its a coincidence that covid has kept the rest of the world at bay while our Deep State and its allies try and run a color revolution here in America. The masks demanded by covid makes it hard to identify rioters also, and encourages them because they feel like they have anonymity. Thats two more fortuitous coincidences. I mean if it weren’t for coranachan in other nations, our burning of our own cities might have led China to move in the South China Sea thinking were were preoccupied, and the Russians to move in the Ukraine thinking we were preoccupied. Hell, Iran and Venezuela might even make some aggressive moves if they to weren’t dealing with Corona. Funny that. Especially all in an election year. I guess the Deep State just got lucky there.

    • 回复: @A123
  29. A123 说:
    @anon

    Soros seems to be in relatively good health for 89. Seems like he may be around for a while longer, and one of his sons seems eager to emulate him.

    You are correct. Unlike the Murdoch family, who are slowly sapping Fox News of its vitality. The Soros brood seem eager to follow in his footsteps. Alex Soros is a highly visible acolyte of SJW Globalism: (1)

    Soros’s son is now emerging from the shadows, poised to carry on his father’s global destabilisation legacy.

    Like his father, Alex Soros is a progressive liberal who believes it is his duty to destroy nation states, do away with traditional family values, and expunge Christianity from the face of the earth.

    After his father passes away and he gets the money, perhaps Alex will mellow like the Murdoch kin. However, there are no signs pointing to such an outcome at this point.

    和平😇
    _______

    Photos of Alex Soros with many DNC politicians below (more)

  30. ‘…In fact, creating the humanitarian disaster that has turned almost 6 million Syrians into refugees has not been a byproduct of the Russian president’s strategy in Syria. It has been one of his central goals…’

    Surely, that was Israel’s objective — and consequently ours — not Russia’s?

    Certainly we sought to reduce Syria to anarchy. One of Hillary Clinton’s emails as much as admits this.

    • 同意: Commentator Mike
  31. ‘… the flood of illegal immigration that have together perhaps fatally destabilized the United States…’

    There was a curious episode that was never explained. Back in 2019, thousands of deserving refugees set out from Honduras to walk to the United States. Their trek was covered very sympathetically, right up to when they tried to enter the US and were (brutally, of course) turned back.

    These were mothers with small children, etc, all setting out to the US. You must remember the pictures. And surprisingly quickly, they turned up at the border — having walked all the way, or at least most of it, according to the BBC et al.

    There was just one problem. I remember looking up the distance of the trek and calculating what their daily progress must have been. They averaged around sixty miles per day, if I recall aright. Over a multi-thousand mile trek, your basic mother with small children would be very hard-pressed to average ten miles a day, even assuming no need to stop and find food, etc. It should have taken the average trekker the better part of a year; and yet there they were, at the US border, mere weeks after setting out.

    Obviously, they must have been loaded on buses, not merely on occasion, but for the bulk of the trip.

    Fine — but who paid for the buses? Who organized and funded this armada? After all, we’re talking about hiring a fleet of something around a hundred vehicles, each to drive two thousand miles or so (and presumably back home again). That’s not cheap.

  32. It’s worth noticing that throughout history there has always been a conspiracy, an invisible person behind the scenes pulling to strings and calling the shots. We might call him Rot-Schild or Giorgi Black today, but once they called him Yahweh.

  33. Owen C. 说:
    @A123

    Drumpf saying that it was Muslims dancing instead of jews doesn’t make them any less jewish.

    • 同意: Moi
  34. Vidalus 说:

    I will testify as to my hypothesis Allan Dulles was the organizer of the hit on JFK, and that CIA operatives took out RFK five years later, if I get deposed as an “expert witness” after all our history has been memory holed, and truther books have been banned. (Coming to a country formerly known as a Western democracy)

    Those who have the privilege to know have the duty to act
    - 艾尔伯特爱因斯坦
    As much as I like Giraldi calling out Zionist sins, he obfuscates the nature and insidiousness of SARS-CoV-2 and tries to blame JFK’s murder on Cuba & Israel. Comment #5 calls out his error by omission of CIA’s role in the November 22 assassination. As I always say, Whom does the CIA serve??? The Dulles Bros have been serving multinational corporations (United Fruit in central America, for example, and rich banksters) since the 1920’s and Allan may have been a channel to pass financial support to Hitler via Swiss banks during WWII. The Zionist and Saudi connections to 9/11 are many and worthy of lengthy investigations…I think Giraldi might have done better sticking to false pretenses that got us into Vietnam and Iraq

    • 回复: @anon
  35. anon[266]• 免责声明 说:
    @A123

    Jewish conspiracies – recent example “Jews, Christians, and all other Infidels must join ranks to defeat this imminent Islamic threat to human freedom”

    Jewish went to the His Majesty ,Kaiser , to Sultan, to Queen,to Kaiser and promised the moon, bounty, high finances for construction, of railroads, ports and reduction of threats from inside or outside propaganda as would be necessary in the prevailing existing contexts respectively . Eventually the moon was delivered by Balfour and Llyod and later Churchill in the from of USA entering the wars . Moon got dark and then slipped away as Churchill coached by the same Jewish conspirators asked him to say “”I have not become the King’s First Minister in order to preside over the liquidation of the British Empire.” so that he actually can liquidate the empire .

    Jewish conspirators sent by Netanyhuuu entered Bush Cabinet through the paid and bribed paranoid Cheney and congress .Then they wrecked the country using the template written by the Jewish for Netanyhuuuuu in PNAC document . The used the dancing and Art student and the Urban Moving of D Sutter to let the FBI know who was the boss, but untouchable behind 911 and later Anthrax . They got the war they called WW3 and hoped for WW4 after getting big WW1 and WW2 .

    Then they play good cop and bad cop to Trump kept on leash like a dog by Kushner . Israeli cops tell him he is doing a good job Domestic cops from ADL and CNN,MSNBC , Democrats and from NYT , BBC say -you should leave and not come back and you should be impeached . Now they have floated Russian bounty against him. Then the cops go to the synagogue and pat each other on the back for the works done so far . Then they plan more . Here Soros and Haim Sabvan and dinosaur looking two gorilla cadaver of depraved twins – from Sheldon family put the seal of the approval. They confirm the need for continued pressure to get the dirty works done by Trump . By doing these anti American things, he will save himself from impeachment because inpelac ament talk will be focussed on stupid lies easily discernible . They also make sure thatt the dirty works done by him is not abrogated by Biden ( they made sure good works done by Obama-Biden get discarded by Trump )

    They remind the new appointee and new arrivee and new delegate “ we dont talk of illegal hurtful anti American activities like American support on Jerusalem or West Bank or Embassy on Golan Height or on expulsion or for conducting wars against Syria or Gaza . we dont talk of increasing money coming from USA we dont talk about military supplies reaching us from USA we dont talk of US helps in case we attack Iran or rescue Sisi from popular will We talk that at home in Israel. Here in USA we talk of – blah blah blah blah and more blah like illegal muslim ban or wall or Russian bounty , we talk of Hongkong but not of Kashmir , we talk of Xi not Modi , we talk China and Russia not India . WE talk of stealing Covid PEP at home not here in USA”

  36. Truth3 说:

    以色列清楚地知道它(9/11)即将到来......

    千禧年的轻描淡写。

    菲尔·吉拉尔迪是个宝藏。 智慧在真理之上。 一定很喜欢

    • 哈哈: Dumb4asterisks
  37. anon[121]• 免责声明 说:
    @Vidalus

    To find the links between Kennedy assassination and Israel -Zionist ,one has to unlock k the mystery of the murderer of Jack Ruby, LBJ’s association with Jews in TX and with supreme court jewish judge . One has to look into the demands made by Kennedy on Israel’s Ben Gurion . One has to bring in the designation battle around Jewish agencies around same time – foreign lobby or not .

    Mossad used the troubled waters to fish big . Kennedy was thertaenin g banks CIA and burgeoning military industrial complex . They did not kill CIA couldn’t have done it without Mossad . CIA knew it . James Angleton was working with Mossad

    Past contact with Hitler or Nazi was no barrier for either Mossad or CIA to work together or agisnt each other . Those kind of barriers matter in personal friendships and for scoring points on TV or in Town Hall debates .

  38. @Eighthman

    Have you heard of fly by wire tech? That tech is 40 years old. These planes that crashed into WTC 1 and 2 were rigged to respond to remote controllers. That was the reason the failed Arab pilots were shown as passengers. They were patsies, just as helpless as the real pilots and passengers who had no control over the plane. These jets were remotely controlled, hence the surprise that the failed Arabs did such a great job.

    • 回复: @FB
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @Ace
  39. @peter mcloughlin

    永远不要相信@123。 他是一个以色列巨魔并推动犹太复国主义议程。 即使当他说黑色是黑色,白色是白色时,他也会这样做,因为这符合他的目的。
    带着尊重与和平

    • 同意: Truth3, Moi, L.K
    • 回复: @ploni almoni
  40. AWM 说:

    很明显,索罗斯和其他这些凶残的全球主义者在世界各地的所有情报机构形式中都受到“深层国家”的保护,否则有人早就把这个混蛋吹走了。
    面对现实,如果普京真的想让他死,他早就死了。 时期。
    老弗拉德并不傻,他已经像我说的那样让自己成为终身统治者,否则下一个暴徒会偷走他所拥有的一切。

  41. A123 说:
    @peter mcloughlin

    永远不要相信毛拉斯普纳。 他是一个有偿的伊朗人,公开为他的反社会阿亚图拉撒谎。

    如果毛拉斯普纳说实话,你可以肯定这纯粹是偶然的。

    和平😇

    • 巨魔: Truth3, Moi, Ann Nonny Mouse
    • 回复: @Truth3
  42. Epstein brought CIA drug smugglers Southern Air Transport to Columbus. Epstein at Bear Stearns ran brokerage errands for the CIA money launderers and pimps of BCCI. Epstein bragged about being CIA and Ohio state VIPs believed him. Epstein skated for the Tower Financial ponzi scheme that topped up CIA’s covert-crime slush fund after CIA proprietary BCCI stole everybody’s money and blew up. Epstein got bankrolled by CIA’s famous secret agent Adnan Kashoggi. Epstein smuggled an enormously illegal NYPD shotgun in through British customs, using CIA agent Ed Wilson’s old trick for impressing foreign VIPs. Federal prosecutors convict 99.8% of their perps, but one let Epstein off the hook for his giant pedo whorehouse because he was told Epstein belonged to intelligence.

    You would not have thought it was possible, but Epstein with his hilariously fake hedge fund is more blatantly CIA than Imran Awan. So clearly we need six thousand more internet bullshitters screaming about pervy Mossad blackmailers – CIA is hopelessly busted for everybody with a 3-digit IQ.

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  43. Meena 说:

    华尔街日报周五报道称,在上周无人机袭击苏莱曼尼之后,特朗普告诉未指明的同事“他面临着与共和党参议员打交道的压力,他认为苏莱曼尼将军是他即将在参议院进行弹劾审判的重要支持者。”
    http://www.commindreams.org

    From any angle ,this will look like a conspiracy . But talking about it to portray the existential crisis of USA politics ,a science of checks and balances, media responsibility and the mechanism in place to make this sort of events to happen will be labeled as conspiracy theory .

    What is this.?
    1 Impeachable offense
    2 who will raise the issue? Media, Congress, Government agencies and activist judges .
    They don’t why ?
    3 Who will investigate ? Dept of Justice.
    Why they don’t ?

    4 would it be a conspiracy theory had Trump not shared the quid pro quo? Absolutely .

    5 who is keeping quiet on the initiation of war illegal war to gain personal favor by Trump and who is asking war on Iran ? Same gaggle of smiley faces – Bolton to Kristol to Cotton to Lindsey to Pelosi to Biden to Sherman Engle , Schumer , Cheney( the cow ) , sage Bush jr, Hillary and same gallery of rogues like NYT BBC CNN FOX MSNBC .

    6 is there a possibility of a war initiated by Trump to make last ditch effort to win election? Yes.

    Bolton recently and , Deniis Ross have suggested to Obama to get out of bad poll number before ,
    Economist Rubiono has suggested before as was shared by zerohedge sometimes back.

    7 Why does conspiracy theory keep on returning ? Because the first appearance is never pushed back exposed and vilified by any body .
    8 How do one evaluate and understand the fate accompli ? They don’t . They shrug and move on as they did after Suleimnai killing and wait for next disavowal of any “conspiracy theory before confidently shrugging off the fait accompli.

    9 What do you call them? Zombie human slaving away their lives
    to harakiri.

  44. Geowhizz 说:

    所以索罗斯在当天打破了英镑。 为什么军情五处不杀他?

  45. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Rev. Spooner

    Remote control over the aircraft is actually the most plausible scenario…

    • 回复: @Sparkon
  46. Jorge Videla [AKA "ODESSA"] 说:

    和…

    for those who have read soros’s own explanations of how he made his fortune…

    HE’S LYING!

    但…

    i presume cuba and israel didn’t conspire and didn’t need to. oswald acted alone or…the mob did it, like hollywood “told” us.

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  47. zimriel 说:

    “credibly credited to …”
    i.e., “the consensus rejects this, except for some cranks which are the ones I’ll choose to believe”. Similar rhetorical trick to Kavanagh being “credibly accused” when he was not. The author gets extra kook points for not linking to the (counter)evidence to what Bugliosi marshalled in “Case Closed”.
    Unlike the author, I dropped a name.
    And I also dropped this article, because Giraldi once again reveals himself as a propagandist with no credibility.

  48. @JasonT

    同意。

    Giraldi lost credibility when he went full-faith-believer in and defender of the CV-19 scam. At the time he used the same lame “It would require blah, blah, blah to convince thousands of doctors and scientists and governments to blah, blah, blah.

    A stunning lack of discernment.

  49. @Colin Wright

    but who paid for the buses? Who organized and funded this armada?

    Why don’t the CIA, FBI, NSA tell us? I guess it must be classified “TOP SECRET”.

  50. anon[123]• 免责声明 说:
    @anonymous

    This article is proof that you never retire from CIA. Here Giraldi is on the job, beavering away with jaw-dropping doublethink.

    Nail meets hammer.

  51. Truth3 说:
    @A123

    A123再次展示了他的真实自我。

    犹太反社会精神病患者混蛋诡辩家。

    • 同意: Moi
  52. @Rev. Spooner

    What went wrong with the one that crashed in Pennsylvania and do you have a theory about where WTC 7 fitted in?

  53. @Geowhizz

    Why would they? What part of MI5’s role would that be part of?

  54. PG, I see you as an acceptably moderate speculator about possible conspiracies. A pity you have provoked such a swarm of maddies.

    Allow me two questions.
    1. Where do I find the neocons beating up the idea of Iran as a threat to the US – which I agree is nonsense except in the sense that the Iranians could attack Israel and trigger a response from Israel’s greatest ally;
    2. What is the best evidence for the true story of the 5 dancing shlomo and what happened later? I agree that, as you tell it, it is very good evidence of Israeli foreknowledge of an unacceptable kind.

    • 回复: @UncommonGround
    , @KA
    , @KA
    , @KA
    , @ANON
    , @DrWatson
  55. Bert 说:
    @another fred

    No one is in complete control. But some groups are more in control than others.
    All conspiracists risk becoming an exemplar of Hosea’s Law, Hosea 8:7: “they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”

  56. @A123

    Ha ha ha. This is so transparent. Suggest you change your user-name.

  57. Thomasina 说:

    I’ve often wondered about Soros. Was he a wealthy man before he “broke the Bank of England”?

    I’ve also wondered how it is possible that someone like Soros would have been allowed to break the Bank of England. Was it just a set-up to provide him with plausible funds in order to make him look legit?

    He gets written up as some ideological billionaire who acts in accordance with his conscience, but to me he looks like he’s working for the ruling elites and the CIA.

    Truly benevolent people (which I’m sure Soros is not) don’t go around causing the chaos he does.

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  58. Anon[413]• 免责声明 说:

    There are many videos about Soros’ purported influence on world events but very few books. An interesting one is “Soros rompiendo España” by an internationalist and academic of the Universidad Complutense of Madrid.

    It badly needs an editor to make it less boring, but it traces and documents Soros financing and tactics in the case of Cataluña. Basically creating NGOs to mobilize civil society to a pitch, while providing content and tactics. Creating grass roots pressure to change policy and break up one of Europes oldest nation-states. Such a network has the advantage of flexibility, it can ebb and flow as required.

    What is different from Europe’s 19th Century instability? Well, that one’s to ponder. But it seems to me it is:
    1) independent of Perfidious Albion or any central government. Unless it’s Bilderberg, of course.
    2) requires no high level assassinations (king and prime minister of Italy, King and Queen of Serbia, multiple Habsburgs, etc). Orban and Salvini are alive and well. Trump will lose, but continue playing golf.
    3) not about the self-determination of oppressed peoples, that is, not about nationhood.

    There seem to be non-stop programming exercises to achieve and direct mass activism across the West: immigration into Europe and US, Cataluña protests, green St Greta protest, feminist protests, Covid confinement, BLM. These last four, in the past TWO years. The generational divide cemented during Covid is something to watch, I’ve seen videos in French and Spanish about the “life lessons” of the pandemic that seed this idea.

    The next step in this Ordo ab Chaos stumps me.

    • 谢谢: Iris
  59. The only conspiracy is Americans telling themselve America isn’t gay to the core and hasn’t been from its beginning.

    Conspiring is the norm. The jews do it and Soros does play his side of the sandwich.
    Just break your American Shit Sandwich up. Sort people along their ethnic order.
    Have a Spaniard America in the west. A Franko Buffer. The good Americans in the Middle & East and send the Anglo Hellspawn to Canada.

  60. Gordo 说:
    @Geowhizz

    所以索罗斯在当天打破了英镑。 为什么军情五处不杀他?

    I don’t know the answer but the correct question is ‘Why did MI6 not kill him?’

  61. HeebHunter 说:
    @04398436986

    They are still yapping about muh ww2. They will never take responsibility.

    Which is why their extermination is well deserved.

    • 同意: Ghan-buri-Ghan
  62. HeebHunter 说:
    @A123

    You have no idea what is coming for you, kikes.

  63. @Wizard of Oz

    Where do I find the neocons beating up the idea of Iran as a threat to the US – which I agree is nonsense except in the sense that the Iranians could attack Israel and trigger a response from Israel’s greatest ally;

    There is no chance that Iran would attack them unless as a direct answer to an attack by them. As to the neoconservative, why don’t you use google? It may not give all results, but some:

    The neoconservative push for war with Iran is not in the American people’s interest
    菲利普·韦斯(Philip Weiss)

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/05/neoconservative-american-interest/

    And, some results from the first two pages, I haven’t read them now:

    – The neoconservative fantasy at the center of the Soleimani killing

    – How the Neocon Plan to Destabilize Iran Will Blow Back on the United States

    – Neocons Won’t Stop Until They Get Their War With Iran

    – Op-Ed: The neocons: They’re back, and on Iran, they’re uncompromising as ever

    – The Neoconservative Obsession with Iran

    – Is Tehran Back in the Crosshairs of the Neocon Crusade?

    – Next Stop, Tehran: The Neoconservative Campaign for War in Iran

    About the other theme you ask about, I don’t believe that it’s possible to investigate it properly, but anyway:

    – 5 Israelis Detained for Puzzling Behavior’ After WTC Tragedy (Yossi Melman, Haaretz)

    – Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 .. (the Herald)

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  64. Some say that Soros is a Rothschild agent, just as Wilbur Ross is claimed to be by others, and the Bank of England is most likely the Nathan Rothschild agent, therefore, a question arises: how can an operative of an outfit be the buster of that very outfit? It’s like saying a pizza parlor owned by the mafia was cleaned out of pies by one of its very own goons. It’s nothing but megalomania in Jewish mind … just as they like to say that Zuckerberg was the kid who turned down a billion dollars when he was still in the diapers. It’s all a crock of horse manure!

    • 同意: Commentator Mike
  65. Herald 说:
    @JasonT

    I’m rather sad that Giraldi has taken to acting as gatekeeper for those that are perpetrating the monstrous coronavirus hoax.

    Nobody with half a brain would suggest that Trump was behind this massive fraud and clearly the floundering Trump is a victim here, as are the rest of us. The real pity is that Trump does not have the clout to see off these evil hoaxsters, even if he were minded to do so.

    The frontman for the real “tag team” is eugenicist Bill Gates. It is Gates’s manic crusade to vaccinate the world, that is the next major plank in this diabolical plan. Gates’s hardly tested and liability free vaccine will have nothing to do with offering protection from the ephemeral coronavirus and will be all about depopulation.

    Only the foolhardy and ultra gullible will roll up their sleeves for the genocidal injection.

    • 回复: @JasonT
  66. geokat62 说:
    @A123

    Despite his ancestry, it is proven & indisputable fact that George IslamoSoros is not a practicing Jew. He has jettisoned that faith. He is so anti-Semitic the Jewish people of the Jewish Nation openly warn the world… The IslamoSoros hates Jews and seeks their extermination.

    George Schwartz in his own words:

    “我不是犹太复国主义者,也不是练习犹太人,但我对同胞犹太人深表同情,并对以色列的生存深表关切。”

    Direct quote from On Israel, America and AIPAC (The New York Review of Books, April 12, 2007)

    https://www.georgesoros.com/2007/

  67. anon[261]• 免责声明 说:

    Meena, the other interesting thing about the Soleimani attack: it let CIA keep Trump busy at the crucial point when COVID-19 was taking off from the ankle of the curve. That let the plague get out of hand and stuck Trump with his most inescapable failure.

    Everything CIA does has multiple motives. In this case they get to whack a wog, increasing tensions and demand in their Mideast arms entrepot. But the clever timing cripples their insubordinate puppet ruler.

    This is your job as a CIA puke: run around with a stick whacking every hornets’ nest and yelling, “Wasps!” They fuck up the world for fun and profit.

  68. Gapeseed 说:
    @UncommonGround

    Even though, I don’t think that he has anything to do with BLM and the protests.

    Clearly, the rioters were trained and highly coordinated from on high due to superior tactics, logistics, communications and the like. Given his capabilities, links to education for a steady supply of shock troops, and past behavior, Soros is fairly considered a prime suspect.

    • 同意: The Wild Geese Howard
  69. Fred777 说:

    Putin is supposed to be an evil genius bent on reconstituting the Soviet Union and world domination. Yet he can’t even get rid of Soros or Browder.

  70. DanFromCT 说:

    I had to stop reading. It’s too early in the morning to go past the assertion that incompetence restrains conspiracy when the it’s the incompetence of conspirators that exposes the mentioned events as conspiracies in fact.

  71. Moi 说:
    @A123

    Bonkers. You and Bolton should combine forces.

  72. Sparkon 说:
    @FB

    Remote control or not, an aluminum-skinned jetliner like a 767 cannot and did not fly through the steel box columns on the exterior of the Twin Towers at the WTC on 9/11.


    图片:太阳
    737 of Badr Airlines flight J4341

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4543186/bird-strike-boeing-737-sudan/#

    For those who may not know, steel is much stronger than any bird.

  73. KA 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Very difficult to find any evidence either for 1 or 2 .

    I am still looking for evidence that supports 1 that US has been giving free money each year , protecting Israel militarily, and diplomatically and 2 evidence that anyone or any body has ever expressed any anti semitism in Europe at anytime from 400 AD until now.
    Of course Jews expressing anti -Ottoman thought would have provoked massive verbal innuendo from muslim ally in Russia.

    Do you have any reliable evidences for 1 and 2 ?

  74. @UncommonGround

    Thank you but I would pay a premium on my UR subscription to have PG tell me which sources he relies on to connect neo cons (and which ones) to propaganda for taking on Iran.

  75. Z-man 说:

    Soros particularly 讨厌 President Vladimir Putin and Russia.

    On this ‘theory’ my first and most important proof is easy to understand but hard to prove like a good calculus problem.
    Soros is a member of the Tribe.
    Tribe = Cabal.
    Cabal = They.
    '他们' Vladimir first and foremost because he re-established and promoted Christian Orthodoxy as the de facto state religion of Mother Russia. Easy to understand, hard to prove.
    A subset to this ‘theory’ of hatred is that Russia is the most Christian and whitest nation left. Also easy to understand and, especially with regard to race, easier to prove.

    • 同意: Anonymousse
    • 回复: @Anon
  76. @Rev. Spooner

    Rev Spooner、Truth3、FB 以及这里的几乎所有人也是如此。 我应该知道。

    • 回复: @Truth3
  77. geokat62 说:

  78. Mefobills 说:
    @another fred

    Nefarious cabals attempt to gain the best advantage for themselves, but no one is in control.

    The common factor is in-groups trying to credit themselves and in-debt others. Religion and law is perverted to their ends.

    Disputation of Paris in 1240 proved that Talmud was a conspiracy.

    Hitler kicked out Free-Mason’s and Kahal Jews, who were “secretly” conspiring.

    Plutocracy is another conspiracy of usually landed owners, attempting to credit themselves the earth while extracting from serfs (labor).

    Cabals and in-groups conspiring is the condition of man, which is why in previous centuries Kings were trained from birth to maneuver around the cabals.

    People that think conspiracies are a joke, are not paying attention.

  79. Desert Fox 说:

    I can not understand the mentioning of Saudi hijackers in regards to 911 as no planes hit the towers and John Lear is on record that no planes were used and he is not alone in this belief, Israel and the traitors in the ZUS government did 911, and to see how they did it , go to drjudywood.com and wheredthetowersgo.com<

    The latest conspiracy is the coronavirus scam and this is the biggest scam and psyop ever pulled off on humanity in history.

    • 回复: @ploni almoni
  80. ariadna 说:
    @Duke84

    Of course it was Oswald acting alone. Anyone with common sense knows that as surely as we (people with common sense) know that the moon is not made of green cheese — you don’t even need a telescope, just use binoculars to see its granular surface and you’ll see it is ricotta.

    • 回复: @Duke84
  81. KA 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    GARY LEUPP

    Now that Canada’s National Post has apologized for the disinformational article about Iran it published on its front page last Friday, one should inquire as to how this happened in the first place. The Post had reported that on May 15, the Iranian Parliament had passed a law establishing “separate dress codes for religious minorities, Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, who will have to adopt distinct colour schemes to make them identifiable in public. The new codes would enable Muslims to easily recognize non-Muslims so that they can avoid shaking hands with them by mistake, and thus becoming najis (unclean).”

    But what led Taheri to produce a sensationalistic piece, drawing immediate damning comment from Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormick, and Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles? – Gary Leupp.

    also- from same author Taheri is after all a man of apparently impeccable journalistic credentials. He’s been Middle East editor for the London Sunday Times, has written for The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Mail,, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Newsday, The Washington Post, Die Welt, Der Spiegel, He regularly comments on CNN.

    Taheri contributes to the National Review He and these colleagues have repeatedly urged a U.S. attack to produce regime change in Iran.

    BUT I SEE YOUR wordings – “except in the sense that the Iranians could attack Israel and trigger a response from Israel’s greatest ally;” are so relevant – “rom Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormick, and Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angele” all manufacturing chorus of condemnation .

  82. Skeptikal 说:

    I am very surprised at this article from Giraldi.

    He is smarter than this. So what is he really getting at?

    His premises and logic are all over the place.

    This whole article consists of setting up a series of straw men before he finally gets around to training his searchlight on George Soros.

    Total misdirection.

    But also, a wasted effort, horse/barn door category. The world now understands perfectly well what Soros has been up to and where his “sympathies” lie and have always lain. And the harm that he has done.

    So I think the point of this assay by Giraldi is twofold:
    (1) To direct attention away from the actual “conspiracy theories”—-that is, actual conspiracies—that are *currently running* and that are being revealed by truly great investigative reporting by, for example, James Corbett (on Bill Gates) and Whitney Webb (on the corporate-military-“public” consortium driving the vaccine/population control program—her latest contribution now up at Last American Vagabond);

    (2) to do this by means of trying include readers on the wink-wink “joke” that of course we all agree that these are silly conspiracy theories. It is interesting that for each scenario Giraldi highlights the least probable theory as explanatory of the event (e.g., the JFK assassination; 9/11).

    Giraldi is definitely multitasking here—killing, or attempting to kill, numerous birds with one stone (the article). That may be why the piece is a total mishmash, loaded with obvious rhetorical devices.

    One can only speculate on why he has written this. Has he gotten too close to the bone regarding Zionist control of the USA and the international political narrative, and now has to bank some “cred” to satisfy . . . someone?

    Whatever his reasons, I see collateral damage for Giraldi among his fans here and elsewhere (at least, with me!). This illogical mess has the effect of considerably degrading Giraldi’s credibility, both factually and ethically.

    *Plus, how stupid does he think his readers are?*

    Even for what it is, it is messily and amateurishly done.

    Is that maybe the point? Who knows.

  83. KA 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Michael Massing, who has done exemplary reporting on AIPAC for the New York Review of Books, quoted a congressional staffer as saying, “We can count on well over half the House — 250 to 300 members — to do reflexively whatever AIPAC wants.” In unguarded moments, even top AIPAC figures have confirmed such claims. The New Yorker’s Jeffrey Goldberg quoted Steven Rosen, AIPAC’s former foreign-policy director who is now awaiting trial on charges of passing top-secret Pentagon information to Israel, as saying, “You see this napkin? In twenty-four hours, we could have the signatures of seventy senators on this napkin.” https://www.salon.com/2007/03/20/aipac_2/

    Both Greenwald and Yglesias, for example, punctured a classic attempt by the Jewish establishment to smear Gen. Wesley Clark, who, saying that he feared that Bush might be preparing to attack Iran, added, “The Jewish community is divided but there is so much pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office seekers.” Clark was immediately — and predictably — accused of being anti-Semitic for referring to “the New York money people” and implying they wanted war with Iran. But as both Yglesias and Greenwald pointed out,everything Clark said was demonstrably true.

    Adding insult to injury, Greenwald proved it was true by citing such right-wing, pro-Israel media sources as the New York Sun and the New York Post -Salon

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  84. @obwandiyag

    I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site

    Obwandiyag, I like how you are redeeming yourself.

    I have become so alarmed at what I read on this site that I have decided on a plan of action.

    If I were the CIA, when the time comes, I will first kill all visitors to this site. The commenters I would make soap and lampshades of, except for the trolls: I am still looking for something more heinous for them – perhaps an audit.

    Come to think of it, that’s exactly what I will do.

  85. geokat62 说:

    • 同意: Iris
    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
    , @Iris
  86. ANON[127]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    1 AIPAC forms new group to oppose Iran deal– https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/aipac-iran-deal-citizens-for-a-nuclear-free-iran-120307

    1 Patrick Clawson, Director of Research at Washington Institute Of Near East Policy (WINEP), has suggested that someone should fabricate that small provocation.Speaking at the WINEP policy forum luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout,” Clawson (ironically) said that “if, in fact, the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if someone else started the war.” https://www.businessinsider.com/top-researcher-suggests-israel-get-nastier-with-iran-sink-sub-illicit-false-flag-2012-9

    1 Joe Liberman wants war against Syria and Iran

    1 Il Senator while brain injured and lies in hospital advocates for war against Iran . Who is writing his stuff ?

    1 “The War Won’t End in Baghdad,” wrote the American Enterprise Institute’s Michael Ledeen in the Wall Street Journal, he argues, “we must also topple terror states in Tehran and Damascus.”

    1 Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has joined the call against Tehran, arguing in a November interview with the Times of London that the U.S. should shift its focus to Iran ‘the day after’ the Iraq war ends. “One can only hope that we turn the region into a caldron, and faster, please,” Ledeen at National Review 
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-dec-01-op-tolan1-story.html

    1  Many rank-and-file members of AIPAC seemed to be spoiling for military action against Iran — “We have to do to them what we did to Saddam,” – GREGORY LEVEY 2007 at AIPAC conference

    1 AIPAC leaders are pushing for a different kind of offensive against Iran: a new program of sanctions much harsher than any prior one imposed through the United Nations–https://www.salon.com/2007/03/16/aipac/

    the organization (AIPAC) deployed its army of lobbyists to push for new sanctions against Iran, which are contained in a new bill called the Iran Counter-Proliferation Act, introduced by Democrat Tom Lantos and Republican Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the ranking members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. Salon

    1 “The biggest problem for the United States is not Iran getting a nuclear weapon and testing it. It’s Iran getting a nuclear weapon and not using it. Because the second they have one and they don’t do anything bad, all of the naysayers are going to come back and say, ‘See! We told you Iran is a reponsible power”- Danielle Pletka, the vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at AEI 
    Media Matters’ MJ Rosenberg asks, adding, “But what about the hysteria about a second Holocaust?

    1 Cotton once proposed punishing the family members of those who violated sanctions on Iran with up to 20 years in prison, saying that punishment should apply to “parents, children, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, grandparents, great grandparents, grandkids, great grandkids.” He wantedto deal with Iran’s nuclear program with a vigorous bombing campaign”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/04/tom-cottons-ugly-screed-hints-terrible-backlash-come Cotton a protege of Kriostol Kristol Kristol.

    1 Reuel Marc Gerecht of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies and the Council on Foreign Relations’ Ray Takeyh made an impassioned case for seeking regime change in Iran while bemoaning the supposed risk they run of being “scorned as a warmonger, a fomenter of chaos.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/29/regime-change-iran-shouldnt-be-taboo/

    How did Mark Dubowotz FDD founder become Iran expert?

    This way— By being born in S Africa, having a law degree , a master’s in international public policy from Johns Hopkins University,on top of that studying in Jerusalem’s Hebrew University and in Paris,and being a success in business -.
    “For example, he may arrive at a meeting in Canada’s Prime Minister Office, and on the way there stop by a local TV studio and bluntly urge Ottawa to shift from talk to action. 
    At the age of 42, Dubowitz has turned into an authority on the Iranian issue, and the US Administration is eager to hear what he has to say about the sanctions . One is amazed to discover that the US, a superpower boasting 16 intelligence agencies, nonetheless relies on the information and ideas of a man who heads an independent organization. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4060499,00.html

    What will happen to this expert ? Same thing that happened to Richrad Pewle and Wolfowitz and Feith and Abrams. Joe Lieberman ,Ilena Rothen from Florida People will shrug and move on saying “Wow! They would believe a guy who just would show up on TV or storm into PM’s office and lecture 16 Intelligence agencies? Wow ! How did he get the acces? Well he got the access the way Judith Miller and Curveball got, the way Sharon OSP got ,the way AIPAC got

    • 同意: mark green
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  87. @Sparkon

    If I remember previous debates of 911 on UR correctly, FB never claimed that the planes brought down the towers but that they were used in conjunction with the pre-planted demolition explosives. He just doesn’t agree that the video footage shown to the world is computer generated and believes that it shows what actually happened on the day.

    • 回复: @The Wild Geese Howard
  88. Hibernian 说:
    @Thomasina

    Some people believe that the powers behind the throne(s) are hidden. The vast majority of their 活动 are hidden, but their names are well known. Think Rockefeller, Morgan, DuPont, Harriman, Schiff, Warburg, etc. Do you seriously think he works for the CIA, etc., rather than the other way around. Granted, in his early days he may well have been aided by the right friends in the right places.

  89. Hibernian 说:
    @Anon

    Trump will lose, but continue playing golf.

    There’s a significant chance he will spend his twilight years in prison, even if he’s re-elected this November. The Dems will definitely try to make this happen if he isn’t.

  90. DrWatson 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The 5 dancing israelis belonged to a moving company and were quietly deported after arrested by the FBI. The best evidence about israeli foreknowledge is the fact that out of the 3k israelis working at the wtc at the time none had died in the attack. Also there was a messaging israeli company with unusually high activity on that morning – apparently notifying the israelis working in the wtc of the imminent danger.

  91. Which planes are you talking about?

  92. Trinity 说:
    @obwandiyag

    谈到未涵盖的阴谋论,我们最近逮捕了吉斯兰·麦克斯韦 (Ghislane Maxwell)。 似乎无法在此站点上找到有关 Ghislane 的任何信息。 奇怪的。

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  93. @KA

    That Salon article is very interesting and contains many truths. (Of particular interest was the polling which showed Jews to be strongly against the Iraq War; indeed much more than non Jewish Americans).

    So why has there been so little movement away from AIPAC dominance since that 2007 article? I suspect that the author underestimates the power of money for campaigning which may be more important than Jewish votes. The hopeless corruption of American government by money is apparent. It couldn’t happen in Australia’s electoral system where nearly everyone votes and single issue politics is also discouraged by the preferential voting system. Also far less money is spent on election campaigns. That doesn’t mean that Australia’s Israel Lobby isn’t pretty effective as lobbies go.

    • 回复: @KA
  94. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Cars International A

    From my perspective, virtually all of the intelligence services operate as one, but especially the 5 Eyes plus Mossad. The CIA doesn’t spy on Americans, Canada’s CSIS or Britain’s MIs do, then pass on the info to the CIA, and vice versa, because they would never spy on their own citizens (says John Brennan). Israel has been given access to the 5 Eyes electronic spying network. The CIA is just the American front for the globalists running the show.

  95. Trinity 说:

    Just scrolling down the site I noticed a couple of old articles on Pizza-Gate have been brought back. Speaking of “conspiracy theories” and the Ghislane Maxwell/Epstein pedophile ring. Still no Ghislane story though.

  96. @A123

    Soros is neither Muslim or Jew. He is a servant of Babylon.

    • 同意: The Wild Geese Howard
  97. 将这种威胁归咎于索罗斯是一回事,但解释他的成功又是另一回事。

    他不会面临反对吗? 一个近代的“布洛费尔德”在没有可信或有能力的反对者的情况下实现他的目标真的那么容易吗?

    • 回复: @A123
  98. Ron Unz 说:
    @Trinity

    谈到未涵盖的阴谋论,我们最近逮捕了吉斯兰·麦克斯韦 (Ghislane Maxwell)。 似乎无法在此站点上找到有关 Ghislane 的任何信息。 奇怪的。

    Well, duh. This isn’t a NEWS website, it’s an opinion webzine, which is an entirely different thing. Once our various writers and columnists have something to say, we’ll probably publish it.

    无论如何,我认为迄今为止关于逮捕的唯一信息是《纽约时报》和其他 MSM 消息来源中讨论的官方声明。 所以也许你应该花时间去看看纽约时报。

    My impression is that you’re just one of the random nuts who hangs around this website, ranting and raving without knowledge of anything. Unlike you, most of our writers try to wait for some information before saying anything.

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
    , @Truth3
  99. Sparkon 说:

    From the very beginning, Gallup Polls have shown that a majority of Americans have rejected the idea that Oswald acted alone.

    Just days after John F. Kennedy’s funeral in 1963 — which occurred three days after he was assassinated — Gallup interviewers fanned out across the United States to gauge public reaction. One of the key questions was whether the suspected killer, Lee Harvey Oswald, had acted alone; Americans’ hunch was that he hadn’t. The slight majority thought “some group or element was also responsible,” while just 29% thought Oswald acted on his own and 19% were unsure.

    https://news.gallup.com/vault/221048/gallup-vault-few-1963-thought-oswald-acted-alone.aspx

    As Gallup’s graph shows, it is only with the rise of the Beavis and Butthead generations that increasing numbers of Americans believe that Oswald was the lone assassin, but those ignoramuses still remain in the distinct minority.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @James Forrestal
  100. Curmudgeon 说:
    @geokat62

    Starmer may be a POS, but there is no evidence he interfered. I know this is not “source” evidence, but it does indicate there is more to the story than meets the eye.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11639371/sir-keir-starmer-jimmy-savile-scandal/
    Saville would have to have help from someone above Starmer’s pay grade to be able to “threaten” police.

  101. Anon[492]• 免责声明 说:
    @Z-man

    They hate the Catholic Church first and foremost.

    Catholic Church = Mater et Magister of the now orphaned “whites”, who don’t understand why they can’t come together to defend their nations and civilization.

    “They” seem to be on the brink of winning. We’ll see.

  102. Duke84 说:
    @ariadna

    It really was just Oswald acting alone.Even his own brother believed he was guilty and those who criticized the Warren Commission report never got around to reading it.

    • 回复: @ariadna
  103. Ron Unz 说:
    @Sparkon

    As Gallup’s graph shows, it is only with the rise of the Beavis and Butthead generations that increasing numbers of Americans believe that Oswald was the lone assassin, but those ignoramuses still remain in the distinct minority.

    Sure. There’s absolutely overwhelming evidence of a “conspiracy,” with both official Congressional committees and leading mainstream academics writing in the elite media all admitting as such. But since the pundits on TV mostly pooh-poohs it, stupid or cowardly people tend to say otherwise:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-jfk-assassination-part-i-what-happened/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-jfk-assassination-part-ii-who-did-it/

    • 回复: @Alden
  104. Emily 说:

    A potential conspiracy theory here……
    List from the Duran – most of us would consider a credible information source.
    BLM。
    We all have a fair inkling of its policies – not pretty.
    Pretty ugly actually – racist and marxist, violent, destructive and deadly.
    So Mr Geraldi and others here – take a look at its financiers and explain their rationale to me.
    And where the billions are gone.
    The organizers…
    The end game….
    And what is bl**dy well going on.
    This has the potential to out do all the other conspiracy theories – many of which I certainly believe in.
    哦!
    Covid-19 – Chinese????
    What the heck was it doing in Spanish poo – from March 2019 – if that report is true.
    https://theduran.com/businesses-who-are-supporting-the-antifa-and-blm-riots-video/

    • 回复: @Bombercommand
  105. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Is everybody here asleep at the wheel? Steve Sailer has written at least two threads regarding Epstein and Maxwell over the last two days?…

    • 同意: Ron Unz
    • 回复: @Ghan-buri-Ghan
  106. JasonT 说:
    @Herald

    同意。

    Unfortunately on the ‘vaccine’ front, we will not be given a choice. If you refuse, you will be force vaccinated and incarcerated.

    • 回复: @Herald
  107. A123 说:
    @Paul Greenwood

    将这种威胁归咎于索罗斯是一回事,但解释他的成功又是另一回事。

    他不会面临反对吗? 一个近代的“布洛费尔德”在没有可信或有能力的反对者的情况下实现他的目标真的那么容易吗?

    The “Left vs. Right” concept for politics was exploited by The IslamoSoros and his co-conspirators. They controlled both sides:

    — Right — Corporate — Importing Cheap workers is good.
    — Left — SJW — Opposing Judeo-Christian culture is good.

    大规模穆斯林入侵欧洲的开放边界同时支持左派和右派。
    _______

    The new spectrum “Populist vs. SJW Globalist” eliminates this problem:

    — Globalist — SJW and Corporate — Importing Cheap workers is good. And, undermining Judeo-Christian culture is good.

    — Populist — Employing citizens is good. And, embracing Judeo-Christian values is good.

    无论你在哪里,基督徒和犹太人都聚集在一起反对伊斯兰索罗斯的 SJW 全球主义。 意大利、波兰和匈牙利拥有真正的民粹主义政党。 法国有黄色背心运动。

    The sharia compliant Fake Stream Media outlets (BBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc.) are becoming increasingly desperate as they flail against Populism. They try to define it as “far right” and then “extreme right”. Actual Populist policies, such as enforcing immigration laws, reflect common sense Main Street values.
    _____

    虽然民粹主义正在增强力量,但胜利还远未确定。

    最大的风险是,SJW Globalists 可能会在被取代之前尝试结束民主和选举。 那些反对选举的人已经利用了 WUHAN-19 大流行:(1)

    民主党正在推动 XNUMX 月大选的邮寄选票。 他们的理由很明显,正如新泽西州的这个新案例所说明的那样,邮寄选票更容易作弊。

    在新泽西州帕特森市举行的 5 月市议会选举中,五分之一的选票因欺诈而被拒绝。 目前共有四名男子被起诉,其中包括市议会副主席。

    总共有不到 3,200 或 19% 的选票因欺诈而被拒绝。

    在美国,SJW Globalist DNC 正在积极推动大规模扩大邮寄投票,以扩大他们的投票制造机会。

    最坏的情况是,民主党全国委员会将伪造 15-20 毫米的邮寄和收集选票,试图伪造拜登的胜利。 想象一下发生在多个州的戈尔-布什争议的放大版本。

    和平😇
    _______

    (1) https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-06-29-more-than-3000-mail-in-ballots-in-may-nj-election-rejected-for-fraud/

  108. Herald 说:
    @obwandiyag

    You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere. That’s why you can say whatever you want. They want you to express yourself freely. For the record.

    Interesting take on UR and of course anything is possible. It might help though, if you could give us the name of your contact at Langley and then we might all be able to have a little chat with that helpful person.

  109. Herald 说:
    @JasonT

    Unfortunately on the ‘vaccine’ front, we will not be given a choice. If you refuse, you will be force vaccinated and incarcerated.

    That, unfortunately may well be so, but accepting forced vaccination as inevitable will only help to bring it about.

    • 回复: @JasonT
    , @Herald
  110. KA 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    (Of particular interest was the polling which showed Jews to be strongly against the Iraq War; indeed much more than non Jewish Americans).”
    Many explanations from genuine to not being genuine opinion and in between

    The tendency to seek universal consensus ,to ask for 100 % rating or “yes” ,or seek 100 % showing up or even 50 % showing up for an event of questionable legality or morality is a distraction , a digression, is like a “gotcha “ question type of behaviors— here in this case it’s a “gotcha” explanation .

    Silent majority support AIPAC, they vote to power the most Israeli centric politicians and carry water for Israel. They send donations for Israel. They go to birthright visit and sign up for IDF . They raise funds for IDF .

    How many Jews did show up against Gaza war ,against Iraq war –none , how many are showing up against AIPAC or FDD or AEI buildings or meeting protesting against the march to war in Syria against Iran ( against sanction, killings, fire and sabotage and war rhetorics)?? How many Jews are showing up against Israel for trying to drag US against Iran war ,against bombarding Syria , against continue red duplicity against Palestinian ?

    Most of those Jewish supporting Iraq war shwoed up in rallies. .

    Jewish students showed up in front of Iran embassy shouting against Iran in 2008 or around that time .

    The Jewish organization supported all these wars and continue to support anti Iran anti Palestinian and anti Syrian activities and continue promote wars . These organ organizations depend on the approval socially financially , ,morally and religiously of the majority of Jews .

    • 同意: mark green
  111. Mefobills 说:
    @obwandiyag

    You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, .

    Sack up. Die on your feet, not your knees.

    • 同意: Herald, DaveE
  112. The two most popular conspiracy theories n america

    1. Black failure is caused by whites

    2. Female failure is caused by men

    Truth is blacks and women just don’t have the ability of white men.

    • 同意: mark green
  113. DaveE 说:
    @obwandiyag

    I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere.

    他们称之为 Deep State Flypaper.

    Personally I think it’s great that the flies seem to have grown a backbone and ain’t cowering in fear no mo’. The day will soon come when the flies EAT the flypaper.

    • 回复: @PetrOldSack
  114. Anonymous[217]• 免责声明 说:
    @Sparkon

    Great photo proving the official narrative is as preposterous as Aladdin and his boys flying magic carpets into the Twin Towers on 9-11. Speaking of fairytales, there’s also a 34-page report from MIT, “Aircraft Structural Damage,” claiming that previously unknown forces prove it’s possible, effectively, for a beer can to destroy the sledge hammer coming down on it at 500 mph instead of vice versa, or in the case in point, for a fuselage such as the one in the photo and its attached wings to accomplish what amounts to the same magical feat. The MIT study has the authority of the Ivy League behind it because it was written by a professor of mechanical engineering whose expertise may be in designing cabinet hinges and two oceanography students. This is science, after all!

  115. Trinity 说:

    Hmm, some conspiracies that I do believe

    Sonny Liston was murdered and both Liston vs. Clay/Ali fights were fixed

    Marylin Monroe was murdered

    JFK assassination? I will take the opinion of Michael Collins Piper over all others that I have heard or read

    James Earl Ray DID NOT shoot MLK

    Conspiracies that I don’t believe

    Paul McCartney never died

    Moon Landing Hoax? No, Virginia, we actually did land on the Moon. Chalk one up for the White man.

    White men can’t jump? Olympic weightlifters, many of whom are white, have vertical leaps off the charts.

    Fiction that has been passed off as the truth.

    3 Black ladies were instrumental in helping America become the first and only nation to land on the Moon.

    Tuskegee Airmen played a prominent role in WWII.

    We know that George Washington never threw a stone much less a silver dollar across the Potomac, but I hear tell that Walter Johnson and Lou Gehrig both accomplished that feat with a silver dollar. Who knows?

    • 回复: @omegabooks
    , @anon
    , @anonymous
  116. Iva 说:

    This is disappointing. I will NEVER read your articles again. You reviled yourself with this article.

  117. Roosevelt the Commie stated that only fools believe things just happen, there is always some group of people making it happen.

    As much as I despise Roosevelt as the Traitor he was, I agree.
    Things just don’t happen.
    Networks of people discuss, plan, evaluate, test, implement, etcetera ad nauseum.
    The nonsense about conspiracy theories is just that: nonsense. Institutional structures don’t change who is related to whom, who they went to school with and so on.
    These networks are normal parts of any human society.

    Do I believe P. Giraldi is a real rebel. Yeah, right. He still gets a cheque and cashes it.
    He is a classic disinformatzia agent and gatekeeper.

    • 同意: The Wild Geese Howard
  118. I agree. What goes on at Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, Davos, Aspen, …in their private enclaves with briefing on any policy area from their pocket think-tanks is the real governance of the Western global hegemony. Anyone who doesn’t do conspiracy analysis is just not paying attention.

    But the kicker is, they also have it on good scientific authority that the masses have an intelligence level of a 13 yr old and no analytical capacity. Their pocket intelligentsia then can pitch a narrative to the MSM with mathematical confidence in its mass acceptance. Truth doesn’t have a chance. Most people actually believe Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself.

    • 同意: The Wild Geese Howard
  119. @DaveE

    There is a single argument I can think of superseding your statement. Since “AI”, alas for now, meta-data analysis, after being gathered, and unz.com is part of the google ecosystem, where-ever you put your “ink” and without human interference, but for the time there would be any interest in a certain individual, you are “fly-papered” anyhow.

    Interesting side effect is that a site as unz.com cannot sell it´s content, or data analysis for more then scraps, since the google eco-system supersedes, and analyses before and at a lower level anything of interest.

    Also, journalism becomes really “cheap”, since the factor content as compared to meta tactics (multiplying the message, on all venues possible, by different actors(politicians, journalists, bloggers, youtubers, at appropriate timing) is dwarfed by the latter. Content providers are becoming a cheap commodity, and the difference, as an example between commenters and authors, actors, gets vague. The content of any value here, is a mixed bag of loops between authors scanning and reading feed-back of commenters, and commenters pointing to erratic author content.

    • 回复: @obwandiyag
  120. @Emily

    “That report” is NOT TRUE. Not “from March 2019”, but one positive for a small amount of SARS-Cov2 for March 19, 2019, then no further positives until January 2020, entirely consistent with an incursion from China. The March 19, 2019 positive is clearly an outlier.

  121. 除了索罗斯之外,很少有真正的俄罗斯专家会声称它正在寻求重建苏联的“影响力”。 莫斯科没有这样做的资源,也没有表现出追求那种具有苏联国家特征的全球议程的愿望。

    The fact that Russia today does not have the same resources as the USSR doesn’t prevent it to aspire to *一些* degree of influence, even if it is just a fraction of what it had in USSR times. It is also wrong to consider an influence on Syria as part of a “global agenda”. Syria is geographically close to Russia. So, it is more of a local sphere of influence than a global one.

    • 回复: @SaneClownPosse
  122. Getaclue 说:
    @JasonT

    “Conspiracy Theory/Conspiracy Theorist” — if there were Burglaries taking place in a neighborhood and it was pointed out and the response was “You’re a Burglary Theorist” — the stupidity of this CIA created psychological warfare term is made obvious. Nearly infinitely wealthy people conspire and hate the rest of us, Giraldi has missed that somehow– (the Council on Foreign Relations doesn’t exist in his reality? All the machinations of the Rockefellers have been for our own good in his world view?)– for anyone paying attention this fact is obvious. They used to be out front about their “depopulation” and Eugenics Agendas now they hide it as “Climate Change” and Medical Martial Law as the paid off “Experts” participate along with the Useful Idiots — so very worried about the health and welfare of the Peons they have screwed over relentlessly for untold decades? Giraldi buys this? (maybe he just sells it?)–sad.

    James Corbett has DOCUMENTED it straight from their “Elite” mouths in the most scrupulous and evidence based manner. Review his entire site and tell me the Rockefellers and Gates et al are not engaged in an active War against the rest of us thru their bought off NWO “Experts”/Lackeys etc. He documents it completely. The Rockefellers have destroyed nearly everything they have ever touched — purposefully. Gates is the new front man for the Medical Martial Law era of the “decade of vaccines” — for people like Giraldi to be clueless of all this– really? Please.
    https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/

    Here’s how the Rockefellers destroyed Medicine and turned it into profit/pills and surgeries with little regard to healing. Destroying all who got in their way as the are wont to do…. Really they have been a cancer since the one who produced John D., who was fondly known as “the Devil”, started the Modern family line of infliction on us all — Gates is said to be related to them not too far back — his Father headed Planned Parenthood and Grandfather was on the Fed Board somewhere etc. — he just cares so much about us that’s why he’s desperate to stick a needle in every Peon arm on Earth…he has “big love” for us, that’s his motivation of course….: https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-286-rockefeller-medicine/

  123. @04398436986

    Not a conspiracy theory. It’s called “Doctrine of Discovery”.

    A Papal Bull issued out of the Vatican, that gave Catholic nations the right to rape, pillage, and plunder pagan nations.

    The choices given to the Pagans were “convert to Rome, become slaves, or genocide”.

    Missionaries and Mercenaries doing “God’s” work.

    • 巨魔: Anonymousse
  124. @Brás Cubas

    Russia is involved in Syria with a large dose of self interest. The Tartus facility is Russia’s naval access point in the Med. Bypassing the choke point of the Bosporus Strait.

    After Libya and Ukraine, Syria knows what will follow in the collapse of Assad’s government.

    • 同意: Brás Cubas
  125. @Mr. Hack

    Must’ve missed that in between his groundbreaking regurgitation of MSM propaganda about the Chinese making soap and lampshades out Muslim hair or whatever.

    LOL

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  126. Giraldi: the country has “become so screwed up”, not so screwed over. Note his use of the passive voice.

    Giraldi’s stated cause of the screw up: “elite incompetence”. A lack of skill that is; no ill will at work.

    To believe that “the multiple crises currently being experienced” ( there’s that passive voice again) are manufactured and/or weaponized by an elite, immoral as well as incompetent, is clear evidence only of a “search for a scapegoat.”

    Note that none of Giraldi’s assertions are supported by fact.

    When Soros engages in question-begging thus, that’s bad. When Giraldi does it, that’s called proof.

    This means that Phil Giraldi is the arbiter of truth and falsity in discourse. Thank God- I mean- Phil, I now know! If anyone ever charges me with being a conspiracy theorist again, I’ll puff my chest out and say, “That’s Phil Giraldi approved” and watch them eat their words.

    But all kidding aside, his chutzpah in dismissing thus the evidence of the weaponzing of a virus christened Sars Cov 2, bespeaks a contempt for the truth on a par with Soros’ in its being “a clear sign that he picks his enemies based on ideological considerations that also drive his choices on how to frame his ventures.”

    Takes one to know one, Phil?

    Let’s examine how Giraldi frames the coronavirus crisis.
    His commentary “is full of errors of fact and is basically a call for aggression.”

    I am eye witness to the latter claim. I went to buy my family fruit yesterday and was set upon by a aggressive woman in a mask disinforming me that I was responsible for killing people.

    Because I was not wearing a mask.
    Phil’s piece would have fueled her misplaced outrage. Happy Fourth to you too, Phil.

    If I can know the following, so can Giraldi, so in rebutting his question-begging fallacies on corona below, I aim not to show him that he missed a few things but merely to out him as agenda, not altruism, driven.

    Of the coronavirus narrative rejector, Giraldi scorns his belief that the virus is being used to further civilian liberty- stripping because such rejectors “choose to believe the virus is actually a flu.”

    This is uncited. Whom is Giraldi quoting? He does not say. How about trying to knock this one down, Phil:

    “this is just a virus – and a comparatively minor one.”
    That’s editor Kit Knightly from OffGuardian, March 5, 2020.

    When you have to change the word virus to flu in order to stay alive, you’ve set up a strawman to knock down, haven’t you?

    And since when did ad hominem attacks count as argument? Giraldi calls a “snake oil salesmen” his uncited author who had the temerity to wander off the the authorized discourse reservation, I guess, and “persists in using an analogy, that since more Americans are killed in automobile accidents than by the coronavirus it would be more appropriate to ban cars than to require the wearing of face masks.”

    Well, is it true, Phil? What’s good for the Soros to fess -up-to is evidently not for the Giraldi. Hypocrisy guarding hypocrisy.

    Back to Giraldi as the arbiter of truth and falsity: He finds it risible, an enormity, that Bill Gates’ suddenly appearing on the world stage as a vaccine/ corona authority, should be greeted by the American people with non-plussing.

    This is what constitutes his argument against such non-plussing: it (purportedly)non-plusses Phil. And what is my non-plussing as compared with his? Am I the arbiter of truth and falsity in discourse? So that settles that.

    And that brings Phil, who relies upon weasel words throughout, so confident he is of his position, to the mother “fallacy” behind all these others he has exposed so lucidly:
    the crisis over corona couldn’t have been manufactured because whole countries were locked down and Phil already told us that these elites who run things are incompetent. They are not skilled enough to pull such a thing off. Remember, he said that? That’s called an argument, son.

    Obviously, therefore, the only rational conclusion a sane person could arrive at is that when we are told there is no difference between this announced coronavirus and a scientifically-verifiable, novelly-threatening, mask-necessitating, lockdown- justifying, virus-isolated, Koch-postulate proven, disease afoot by the same owners of the same “news” outlets who tell us that there is no difference between an unborn child and a diseased appendix; between a pro-lifer and a terrorist; between a male and a female; between Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and democracy; between the practice of usury and financial genius; between an anti-Semite and a Catholic; between Putin and Hitler… it must be so.

    With enemies like Giraldi, Soros doesn’t, but America sorely does, need friends.

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

    https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/02/no-one-has-died-from-the-coronavirus-president-of-the-bulgarian-pathology-association/

    • 同意: Getaclue
  127. The three great conspiracies, they are destiny:

    1. The assassination of JFK replaced the semi-democratic presidency with the Deep State.

    2. 911 laid the legal and technical foundation for the universal surveillance state.

    3. Covid-19, though likely an accident from the Wuhan lab, opens the door to the greatest conspiracy of all:

    a. The mandated chipping of people, which is the ultimate contact tracing. Provides for the universal policing of individuals who refuse to police themselves.

    b. Advent of cashless society: with implanted semiconductors, no more need for fiat currency (which is making itself worthless, anyway). Digital control of individual bank accounts and transactions completes the government stranglehold on society. Government becomes God, which has been its dream since Pharoah.

    The remaining step is removal of national borders. People must learn not to identify with their country of birth, but with the trans-national Borg, for the sake of peace and harmony and universal good will. The new world utopia will have realized its aim, the absorption of all into the One.

    Expect this final step to get under way with President Biden, with the full opening of the southern border.

  128. Art 说:

    Soros claims to be a “force for good” as the cliché goes, but is it completely credible that his \$32 billion foundation does not operate behind the scenes to influence developments in ways that are certainly not democratic?

    Mr. Unz and Mr. Giraldi are about to have 32 billion dollars descend on them.

    Glen Beck attack Soros big time on his Fox TV show – with the result that he was canceled in short order.

    Soros is one bad Jew – with all the inferior immoral character traits of his tribe. One of them is revenge.

    (It has been said that during WWII – as a boy, he sold out his fellow Jews to the Nazis.)

  129. omegabooks 说:
    @A123

    Soros is a Muslim, you say? Hmmmmm….you could be right….Donmeh though is more like it.

  130. Has nothing to do ideologies. Soros is all about money and maintaining the Jewish shield, the Holos.

  131. @Eighthman

    I don’t find any explanation of 9/11 to be credible. In particular, if Israel did it, how did they coordinate the suicide jihadis on the planes?

    Agreed. I had the same reaction when I first saw that Godzilla movie. How did they manage to direct and control that gigantic monster during those scenes?

    • 哈哈: utu, DaveE, Sya Beerens
  132. omegabooks 说:
    @Trinity

    Correct about Paul-as-Faul….a video with a tape FROM GEORGE HARRISON verifies Paul is dead….and so did Ringo in a video I saw two years ago. Did Harrison get whacked over it? Maybe. Clearly John Lennon, who exposed it any which way one could (lyrics and album covers), surely got whacked.

  133. He revealed that he is far from a benevolent figure fighting for justice in his March Financial Times op-ed (behind a pay wall) entitled “Europe Must Stand With Turkey Over Putin’s War Crimes in Syria.”

    Arrest Warrant Issued for Key CIA Gülen Handler

    Turkey has just issued an arrest warrant for ‘former’ CIA top official Graham E Fuller for involvement in the failed July 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan and the Turkish government…

    WikiLeaks, Hillary-Gulen Intimate Ties & How the Clintons Gave Birth to Mullah Gulen’s Terrorist Network

    https://www.newsbud.com/2020/06/28/coup-update-5-international-flaming-hotspots-to-keep-an-eye-on/

  134. Iris 说:
    @geokat62

    “Sir” Keir Starmer is married to a Jewish lady and his children are raised in the Jewish fate.

    Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife’s faith, saying: ‘As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are barmitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.’
    He also spoke about their Friday night dinner tradition, which sees his wife’s family invited to their Camden home for supper,

    https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria

    • 谢谢: geokat62
    • 回复: @Jimsy
  135. Cornelius 说:

    Ukrainian Nationalism IS VERY popular with Jews. FYI. I found that out by looking into who follows who, who works where. HUGE networks of Jews and Ukrainian Nationalists. They’re crazy about Ukrainian Nationalism LET ME TELL YUH!

    ANYONE WANT LINKS?? I GOT EM. JUST ASK.

  136. @DrWatson

    Thanks. You remind me of potentially evidentiary stuff I have at the back of my mind when I admit Israel to the circle of guilt. But, if I have to rely on the kind of summary you provide I would, with respect, prefer Philip Giraldi was staking reputation on it rather than its coming from a commenter as pseudonymous as myself.

    • 回复: @DrWatson
  137. @ANON

    Thanks. That’s a valuable compilation. Not a criticism at all but it doesn’t answer specifically my request for PG’s reference to neo cons on Iran to be backed up.

  138. If there is any remaining doubt in your mind that the tech companies in collusion with world governments intend to drive people away from the internet, consider how many have been censored, and that Google changed its search algorithm in 2016 to something extremely inferior, which often yields search results that do not have the damndest thing to do with what was even searched for! Add to that their absolute refusal to help consumers that have been hacked or censored, and capitulating to governments throughout the world which each have their own unique demands. Alternative media is now nearly just as shitty as MSM as a result of “the purge”, with now only a few websites even worth bothering with. Can’t have anything nice in this shit-hole country! The retards will destroy it! Whether statues, or the internet! Anything that benfits the general population will be destroyed by the retards in control, that are incapable of competing with anyone, which they have proven through their censorship and destruction of the entire country, in a megalomaniacal, narcissistic, juvenile, temper tantrum of rage! It is what the retarded half refers to as “winning!”

  139. JasonT 说:
    @Herald

    I am not accepting it, but I have little power to stop it.

  140. Capablanca 说:

    Giraldi is controlled opposition, he is engaging in subtle sleight of hand with the 9/11 narrative, claiming that the Saudis did it, and that the Israelis only “knew it was coming”.

    “Israel clearly knew it was coming, witness the Five Dancing Shlomos cavorting and filming themselves in New Jersey as the twin towers went down. Also the Saudis might have played a role in funding and even directing the alleged hijackers。 “

    Fact is, the three towers were brought down by controlled demolition. The Saudis obviously didn’t do it, they had no access to Building 7 or Silverstein’s WTC towers. The Saudis were the red herring in this operation, and Giraldi knows it.

    “Urban Moving Systems” van driven by Israelis, filled with explosives , were stopped on 9/11. The “dancing Shlomos” weren’t just there to document the event…

    Giraldi is too smart to make that kind of a mistake, he is deliberately engaging in disinformation here. Maybe that’s the retirement deal he’s made with his former (current?) employer…

    I think that’s the lesson here, be careful of the big 10% lie that’s packaged with the 90% truth by people like “former” intelligence officer Garaldi.

    Also, the main driver behind the JFK assassination was the same party as in 9/11. Read Laurent Guyénot’s “JFK-9/11”. Jakob Rubenstein aka Jack Ruby was neither an Italian mobster nor a ClA officer.

    • 回复: @Druid
  141. Ruckus 说:

    Lol it wasn’t Cuba taking out JFK, it was the Amish

  142. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @obwandiyag

    Well…that’s neither here nor there…but ask our dear Phil about the intestinal difficulties 一些 have been having lately…?…😂 😂 😂

  143. Ace 说:
    @A123

    So Soros is so, like, 已治疗 being Jewish but he’s really down with being a Muslim and with advancing their agenda.

    我感觉合理。

    • 哈哈: Trinity
  144. Ace 说:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The “inequality” obsession of not a few seems contrived. People don’t care about a lot of things if they are able to provide for their families, have a little fun now and then, and put something away for their old age. But the essence of the US elite-devised “economy” of the last 40 years is sticking it to American labor. Immigration, off-shoring, H-1B garbage, and crushing taxation (as is seen in the reality underlying Tax Freedom Day) each year are what is killing Americans.

    The political class also did all in its power to grease the skids for their own ascent into the ranks of the uber rich and powerful such that anyone pointing out this diseased maldistribution of 功率 is viciously silenced whether by the tech giant, social media, or media monopoly scum.

    The “inequality” garbage is an abstract, airy fairy diversion so that Citizens United poison, Supreme Court betrayal, free-range Antifa, immigration, and vote fraud, 除其他外,, are not examined too closely.

    • 同意: Skeptikal
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  145. anon[132]• 免责声明 说:
    @Trinity

    I like your ideas on Clay/Liston.
    Any opinion on whether Liston was whacked because of his piss poor tanking in both the
    Clay fights, his ending the career of Leotis Martin with a gouge, his brutal demolition of
    Chuck Wepner in what turned out to be his last bout or other Mob related reasons?

    • 回复: @Trinity
  146. AnonFromTN 说:
    @obwandiyag

    Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere.

    An interesting conspiracy theory. I remember when “perestroika” began in the USSR, some people said that it’s just a ruse, a trick to identify those who do not support the Party. Now look what happened.

  147. Trinity 说:

    Funny, “conspiracy nuts and wackos” like Joe McCarthy, Dr. David Duke, Dr. William Pierce, always prove to be right, and the people mocking people like the aforementioned truth tellers always turn out to be wrong, or more than likely just liars. I have witnessed this with my own eyes for decades and counting.

    Integrating public schools were supposed to improve race relations. Well?

    The 1965 Immigration Reform Act would not change the demographics of America. Well?

    Dr. Duke was talking about our Southern border back in the Seventies and was labeled a kook, racist, wacko, blah, blah, blah… Dr. Duke also said that Whites would eventually face becoming a minority in their own countries way back in the day before Donald Trump was a member of Hair Club For Men. Well? Who is the wacko? Who is the truth speaker?

    Could point out COUNTLESS examples of truth speakers speaking the truth DECADES ago only to be dismissed by the powers that be as kooks, close minded bigots, racists, Nazis, White Supremacists, take your pick.

    How about this one. Didn’t little Dubya aka Bush Jr. say that America would be done in the Middle East in about 6 months way back in 2002? Well?

    I think we need to start listening to the wackos, the conspiracy nuts, the racists, the kooks, etc.

    • 回复: @Malla
  148. Deluminati 说:
    @Eighthman

    If you’re not trolling, ask Ryan Dawson on Youtube.

  149. Matchstick 说:

    The conspiracy theory meme is just a way of gaslighting normies into believing they are not being controlled. It panders to their pride. You see, absolutely everything that happens in the world at all times is just a random darwinian accident, completely unpredictable and unplanned. Even for the rich and influential. No one is suppossed to have any real power; least of all rich and influential people. How absurd! Lol

    The idea that smart people get together to plan outcomes implies the normie is missing out. Which they are. But that would offend their petty sense of pride. “No one controls me!” thinks the normie.

    Easier to lie to someone than to convince them they have been lied to.

    But ultimately the conspirators are to blame. They are not morally neutral agents merely taking advantage of dumb herds of consenting normies. The banking dynasties and kabbalists actively sabotage and deceive the normies. And for that alone these satanists will pay extremely in the hereafter. It is silly to blame a normie; these npcs are only responsible for what they understand, which isn’t much. But the satanists are a different story. They are very responsible for the state of the world. Their karma will utterly crush their souls into nonexistence–the real hell.

  150. Trinity 说:
    @anon

    IF you know about Liston, ( I believe this was mentioned in a documentary on Sonny) was that he didn’t like needles. Sonny was a heavy drinker, but wasn’t known to take drugs. From what I have read he was definitely becoming involved with some seedy characters in Vegas at the time of his death. Of course Liston was always thought to be mobbed up and was associated with characters like Frank “Blinky” Palermo during his earlier years. My guess is Sonny probably pissed off the wrong people for whatever reason. Being the former heavyweight champion of the world probably won’t save you from the mob if they want you bad enough.

    I had Liston ahead before he got caught by Leotis Martin, a very good puncher, who had to retire after this fight because of a detached retina. Martin was out of Philly, so you know he had to be super tough to survive those legendary Philadelphia gym wars. As you probably know, Liston was always thought to be much older than his listed age, and even after the Ali fights, he went undefeated until his fight with Martin. Sonny busted up the Bayonne Bleeder pretty bad, I can’t quite remember how many stitches Wepner took for that one. Wepner was a HUGE guy, 6’5″-6’6″ ( even though he looked small next to Andre The Giant in their “rassler” vs. boxer match), but he was just a fringe contender at best. Wepner was pretty damn limited to say the least. Duane Bobick ( remember him) completely outclassed Wepner in their match, and Wepner was hopelessly over his head against a young Joe Bugner as well. Still the guy showed tremendous courage in his fight with Liston. It was said that even a young Joe Frazier avoided the old Liston in the late 1960s. Even an old and over the hill Sonny was a scary man.

  151. @JamesinNM

    UFC champ Khabib Nurmagomedov’s father has just died from Covid-19 at 57 in a Russian military hospital, presumably under the best care possible. He was a fit guy who coached many fighters including 18 combat sambo world champions.

    https://www.rt.com/sport/493799-khabib-father-abdulmanap-nurmagomedov-funeral/

    So he was felled by a hoax? Just a common cold virus?

  152. Ace 说:
    @Duke84

    Was the “magic bullet” ever shown to have come from Oswald’s weapon by ballistic examination?

    It’s been a while but I don’t recall whether it was alleged that he used two weapons.

    • 回复: @Duke84
  153. Ace 说:
    @Rev. Spooner

    Yes. “Someone” “rigged” the Twin Towers with explosives and “someone” “rigged” the airliners to “fly by wire.” That’s a lot of wiring, motors, cameras, transmitters to surreptitiously fit into the cockpit of a valuable machine undetected. Ditto rigging the charges on the beams of the towers with accompanying timing devices to stagger the detonations perfectly. Demolition experts able to freely access buildings for demolition don’t always get that perfect pancake effect.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  154. Alden 说:
    @Ron Unz

    There are so many theories about the John Kennedy assassination they cancel each other out.

  155. @Duke84

    “””There’s never been any credible evidence that JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy or that anyone other then Oswald was involved.He owned both murder weapons.”””

    Jack ruby.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  156. @Ace

    Yes, still more reasonable than the official story that fires brought down three buildings.

    I prefer to go with CGI in which case whatever we’re shown in video reports is not what happened, and hence analysing all that footage, as so many truthers do, is pointless other than to try to prove that it was CGI.

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Ace
  157. @Anon

    Basically creating NGOs to mobilize civil society to a pitch, while providing content and tactics. Creating grass roots pressure to change policy and break up one of Europes oldest nation-states. Such a network has the advantage of flexibility, it can ebb and flow as required.

    Heck, just look at all the AG and DA elections that Soros and his orgs bought in the United States over the past few years.

    That investment is now paying off for him and the Left in spades.

    The next step in this Ordo ab Chaos stumps me.

    Global neo-feudalism for us 8 billion+ serfs, enforced by linked health and social credit systems tied to financial incentives. The social credit system in particular will be used as a cudgel against whites.

    • 回复: @Anon
  158. @Ace

    So you think US politicians and even prosperous fellow Americans should have preferred to keep up the prosperity of the less talented Americans rather than take a Christian or Muslim view and regard the lifting of billions out of real poverty as of higher priority. I write as one who for the time being has benefited from my politic leaders not having had to make the hard decisions.

    • 回复: @Ace
  159. @obwandiyag

    I once saw a documentary series by a former CIA man who seemed to conclude that Oswald was manipulated by some Cubans who were only pretending to be anti-Castro. It certainly was plausible unless one knew some killer detail that was inconsistent. Come to think of it it would be consistent with there being another gunman behind the wall on the grassy knoll. And, now I come to think of it, it is also consistent with those Cubans being in cahoots with the CIA…..

  160. @DrWatson

    Also there was a messaging israeli company with unusually high activity on that morning – apparently notifying the israelis working in the wtc of the imminent danger.

    That would be Odigo Messenger:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odigo_Messenger#Odigo_and_the_9/11_investigation

    • 回复: @DrWatson
  161. @Commentator Mike

    FB never claimed that the planes brought down the towers but that they were used in conjunction with the pre-planted demolition explosives.

    Dude, in all the decent quality vids you can watch the cutter charges going off in their pre-programmed sequence below the bottom edge of the main dust cloud.

  162. Jimsy 说:
    @Duke84

    I once thought as you do, but not anymore — not after reading Laurent Guyenot’s article “Did Israel Kill the Kennedys?” here in the UR. It argues, and very persuasively, that the murder of JFK was set in motion by former Israeli PM David Ben-Gurion.

    • 同意: DaveE, Skeptikal, Iris
  163. Anon[436]• 免责声明 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    Why should I not believe my then young cousin who actually saw the plane which struck the second building as it flew towards the building and struck it? By coincidence she had a friend on one of those flights who was of course never seen again.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  164. Jimsy 说:
    @Iris

    Thank you for that information, iris and geokat. This Kier Starmer ‘conspiracy theory’ looks like it might be conspiracy fact. Starmer is married to a jewish woman, has chosen to raise his children as jews, and expresses positive feelings about Judaism. Jimmy Saville was Jewish & raised many thousands of dollars over the years for charitable projects in Israel.

    Some years ago, Starmer is presented with evidence of sickening, illegal behaviour on the part of Saville, but declines to pursue it.

    A few years after that, Israel’s embassy in London & a supportive media orchestrate a smear campaign against the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn. He loses the election, steps down, and is replaced by … Kier Starmer!

    • 谢谢: geokat62, ChuckOrloski
    • 回复: @Wielgus
  165. A real and dangerous naturaly occuring disease would make a much better vehicle for machinations by Bill Gates, crashing the economy without blaming anyone, etc., than a fake one. You just have to make your plans and wait for a suitable oportunity, perhaps a bit of exagerating the numbers and lethality would be required. I don’t agree that huge numbers of people would have to be involved, just few key decision makers as the rest would go along with what they are told provided it came from trusted sources and wasnt too implausable.

  166. Malla 说:
    @Trinity

    I am a brown guy, and I have gone through reading the matter of so many ideological groups, it is hard to count, from Marxists to Afrocentrists to Buddhist fundamentalists to Lubads, you name it. The people who are closest to understanding how the world really works are White nationalists and National Socialists (Nazis for many). They know exactly how the world works or they are the closest to the truth. Next are Muslims when they talk about the J Question, eschatology and about the coming of Dajjal (anti-christ). Some Japanese folk writing books about the dangers of freemasonry can be added to this lot too.

    Among the most clueless folks are most White libtards who are naive dumbfarts and even some black nationalists/ Afrocentrists. But some black nationalists types who speak about the JQ are really really smart, like Minister Farrakhan. But the worst of the worst, the most clueless idiots are Hindu fundamentalists. Man, those idiots are totally clueless about the big picture.

    • 同意: Trinity, Druid, mark green
    • 回复: @Trinity
  167. Petermx 说:

    Eighteen years ago I took my first trip to eastern Europe and I remember reading somewhere there (it might have been a sign) something expressing pride that George Soros stayed at a certain hotel. The media was pushing Soros as force for good, helping eastern European countries to advance their standing. I heard things about Soros’ good intentions and for years I was on his e-mail list until one day I responded to their email and I objected to something his organization was doing. I got a
    response but it didn’t address my objection and I removed myself from the organization’s e-mail list.

    Hungary’s leader Viktor Orban and his countryman Soros don’t like each other. Soros founded a school in Hungary and Orban objected to what they were promoting and Orban and others concluded the school was pushing am agenda specifically for Hungary and legislation was passed that forced the school to fold up and leave. This was only about two years ago and the EU bureaucrats attacked Orban and Hungary for banning such schools.

    In regards to Syria, Mr. Giraldi is of course correct. President Putin’s Russia is in Syria at the country’s invitation and US troops are in Syria as invaders, not at Syria’s invitation, and attacking Syrian troops. Despite US opposition, the Syrians and Russians have driven the terrorists out. By definition, terrorists are unidentifiable forces that physically attack a country’s government and its institutions. This includes military attacks. There is no doubt who was attacking Syria and aiding terrorists and who was supporting Syria. I think Mr. Giraldi could have emphasized this more. Also, you don’t have to be a genius to see why the Jew Soros would support bringing massive destruction to Syria and overthrowing the Assad government. Syria and Israel border each other and they are arch enemies. That this fact is always overlooked when a prominent Jew supports military aggression against an enemy because it’s “anti-Semitic” to point it out is just about the most powerful tool any force or country can have. No other country or people in the world enjoys such power, the ability to attack an enemy and not worry that someone will point out that Syria and the Jewish state are enemies. If these facts do not show the Jewish “Holocaust survivor” Soros is a supporter of Israel then you can’t say any leader of any country that attacks another country did it in support of his country either. Churchill was not working for England, FDR was not working for the US, Hitler was not working for Germany and Stalin wasn’t for the USSR. We don’t know why they just happened to support things that advanced their country’s interests and it would be prejudiced to assume they supported their own people just because they did things that were in the best interest of their country. If you accept that then I have a bridge I would like to sell to you.

  168. soros is the mask over the face of bank of redschield…the top demon usurers in history.

    this fact is why nobody wants to or can stop them doing evil to the world.

    they are tikun olaming us every day until their mischiac comes…which it never does…but a LOF waits all of them

  169. “And however one feels about President Donald Trump, it must be conceded that he has been the victim of a number of conspiracies, first to deny him the GOP nomination, then to insure that he be defeated in the presidential election, and subsequently to completely delegitimize his presidency.”

    Why must that be conceded? Is there not the slightest chance that it’s all political theater? Is there not the slightest chance that the Trump administration is just another “deep state” hoax perpetrated against “the people”? Is there not the slightest chance that Trump was brought to power by the “deep state” to do unpopular, high risk dirty work e.g. destroy Iran, confront China, withdraw from nuclear weapons treaties with Russia, overthrow the Venezuelan and Bolivian governments, etc. – while being constantly disparaged by the media and pretending to be one of “us”? Is there not the slightest chance that the plan from the beginning was to baffle “the people” with cognitive dissonance/gaslighting; e.g. the more “deep state” dirty work he does, the more they harass him (for everything else)?

    I don’t have a problem with claims that the “deep state” is out to get Trump. Maybe they are. The problem I have is the lack of a cogent explanation for anything that doesn’t support the theory. For example, why did Obama let Comey undermine Clinton’s electoral prospects with a fake investigation? Why did Obama attack the Syrian Army at Deir Ezzor in Sept. 2016, an act that could only have worked to Trump’s benefit? Why did the house not include Trump’s indefensible war crimes in Syria among the impeachment charges against him? Why did the senate acquit him rather than find him guilty and remove him? Does the “deep state” not control the senate? Is Lindsey Graham an independent actor? Maybe one or two things can be attributed to “shit happens” but the big picture is problematic.

    IIRC didn’t Phil Giraldi take the position that 9/11 was an inside job involving Israel? I don’t understand how anyone can believe that 9/11 was a fraud but refuse to consider the possibility that the Trump administration is a fraud.

    • 同意: anti_barabas_ite
    • 谢谢: ChuckOrloski
  170. @obwandiyag

    “You got it. Yeah, I’m afraid this site is nothing but a CIA surveillance site, and every time we type, we’re totted off on some new shit-list somewhere. That’s why you can say whatever you want. They want you to express yourself freely. For the record….”

    absolutely spot on

    every comment sight ever used is a honeypot for further review by the masters of the universe.

    just look how SJW tap into your 8 year old faceberg posts to get you fired from your jobs.

    how every mass shooter has “An internet profile” scrubbed and narrative leaked as needed to demonize fully.

    at anytime the oligarchs in control can set you on fire from your publicly uttered comments or viewing habits…. you think you never did anything untowards to society? think again, the fickle winds of hysterical shrieking women knows no bounds…you are guilty if they say you are…

    I’m waiting for God to open my internet book and judge me! these “watchers” can stay in their hell… demons all of them!

  171. Bas 说:

    Best ever not mentioned. The moon landings opened doors to the explained. JFK Not. It did start opening eyes for greater.

  172. anonymous[106]• 免责声明 说:
    @Trinity

    Fiction that has been passed off as the truth.

    You forgot to mention the most enduring 小说 在过去的2000年。

    Father, Son, Incarnation, “in-his-image” Mangods, 3in1, Trinity (oh, the irony there!), “god” as ice/water/vapour (lol!)…

    Your examples mean next to nothing. The fiction I have mentioned will lead your pagan-godless kind to an eternity in Hell. Beat that.

    • 回复: @Trinity
  173. @Desert Fox

    Dr Judy Wood is like saying that Martians killed JFK. Makes you look silly. You don’t need planes but you do need high quality thermite. And you don’t need Dr Judy Woods. Stop shooting yourself in the foot.

  174. Wielgus 说:
    @Jimsy

    Savile was Roman Catholic although he was pro-Israeli and was involved with Jewish and Israeli charities and institutions.
    I recommend the biography 在众目睽睽 by Dan Davies.

    • 回复: @geokat62
  175. geokat62 说:

    摘录自 The Explosion at Natanz Is a Direct Hit on Iran’s Nuclear Program:

    The latest events in Iran, in particular the explosion at the nuclear facility in Natanz on Thursday, represent a significant rise in tensions in the region, even if the various countries are still preoccupied with the coronavirus pandemic and its consequences.

    Figures in Iran have already blamed Israel for the explosion, saying it may have been caused by a cyberattack. If that is so, according to past reports of exchanges between the two sides, it would suggest that Iran will try to respond, possibly with yet another cyberstrike of its own…

    Trump and Netanyahu are each dealing with unprecedented economic and public-health crises that also threaten their political futures. Perhaps they may be taking a tougher stance against Iran. That could have broad consequences for the region, even if all three countries are mired deep in the coronavirus crisis (and it seems that all three are failing spectacularly at coping with the pandemic).

    https://middleeasttransparent.com/en/the-explosion-at-natanz-is-a-direct-hit-on-irans-nuclear-program/

    • 谢谢: Robjil
  176. geokat62 说:
    @Wielgus

    Savile was Roman Catholic…

    And, according to Jimmy, he was”the most Jewish Catholic you will ever meet…”

    直接引文来自, 恋童癖拱门吉米·萨维尔(Jimmy Savile)是虔诚的犹太复国主义者和以色列支持者

    https://gilad.online/writings/arch-paedophile-jimmy-savile-was-a-devout-zionist-and-an-isr.html

    • 回复: @Wielgus
  177. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Hang All Text Drivers

    Sure. And Jack Ruby was killed almost immediately after that for no reason whatsoever. How plausible!

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  178. Trinity 说:
    @Malla

    The White “libtards” are not even liberals, they are leftist or closer to the truth, they are slaves to the Jewish ESTABLISHMENT aka “the man.” These fools go out there and fight for “racial equality and racial justice,” “fight against the man,” blah, blah, blah. What these white traitor trash bags are fighting FOR is their own genocide, anti-White racism, Jewish Supremacism, and their own enslavement. I have said on more than one occasion that while Whites all always bragging about how smart and brilliant they are or at least WERE a long time ago, facts don’t lie, Whites have contributed more in the way of inventions, technology, medicines, etc., than all other races combined, etc. The Whites that have existed in the past 100 years or so have proven themselves to be the dumbest people on the planet. They were dumb enough to slaughter each other in two world wars that helped bring in the downfall of the White race for example. Dumber than the Somalian with the double digit IQ even. Bragging about superior IQs which are completely worthless if you are dumb enough to allow your country to be taken over by a band of criminal international gypsies and allow your own civil rights to be taken away as well.

    • 同意: Druid
  179. @Anon

    If that is truly the case and no holography was used then I’d have to go with FB’s thesis that the planes were on remote control pre-planted explosives were detonated to bring the towers down..

  180. @AnonFromTN

    Fyi, ⭐AnonFromTN, Jack Rubinstein died of cancer in a Dallas hospital and never had opportunity to stand trial.

    • 回复: @Castellio
    , @Iris
    , @Duke84
  181. obwandiyag 说:
    @PetrOldSack

    Quite a few of the writers on here actually get paid pretty decent for “journalists,” I know for a fact, paid by some rather shady donors. Follow the money.

    • 谢谢: Trinity
    • 回复: @PetrOldSack
  182. anonymous[168]• 免责声明 说:

    Jimsy 168, in that case let me tell you about my binary options investment strategy for financial independence, with your keen critical intelligence you will doubtless make millions.

    This is a place where you got CIA pukes telling you with a straight face Israel killed JFK. When some unconnected Nancy Drew with no clearance can reel off conclusive open-source proof that CIA choreographed every move before, during, and after the coup as illegal domestic secret police with nationwide precision control. Just by sitting reading in the frickin library, she learns this.

    https://ourhiddenhistory.org/entry/lisa-pease-james-jesus-angleton-and-the-jfk-assassination-of-president-kennedy

    It’s all there right in your face in black and white, all your life. But some puke tells you otherwise with shit for evidence like you’re gonna buy it. This is how stupid they think you are.

    CIA killed JFK. CIA killed RFK.

    https://www.salon.com/2011/11/21/the_other_kennedy_conspiracy/

    CIA rules your fucking country because they can torture you and kill you and get away with it. No matter who the fuck you are. And they think you’ll sit there and pull your electoral pud again for some some bribed and blackmailed puppet ruler they could whack at will.

  183. Trinity 说:
    @anonymous

    Oh boy, you really got me there. Sheesh, how will I ever recover after being attacked twice on the same thread and being called such names by people I hold in such high esteem. Oh dear. Doctor, doctor give me a cure.

    First off, my adopted screen name of “Trinity” is from a sequel of Western comedies made in the 1970’s. Check out the movies, I believe there were about 3 movies made in the Trinity series starring Terence Hill and Bud Spencer. Hep me, lawd, the douchebags are on the loose today and they are really hurting my feelings.

    • 哈哈: DaveE
    • 回复: @Druid
  184. geokat62 说:

    • 回复: @A123
    , @James Forrestal
  185. @Geowhizz

    为什么军情五处不杀他

    The answer you are seeking is, that some types of people see it as a question of honour. The fact that some mistaken and childish forms of honour are simply a prelude to suicide doesn’t appear to register very well with such people.

    换一种说法…

    “Gosh… We’d never do anything like that ! One doesn’t want to come across as a bad loser, old sport !!”

  186. A123 说:
    @geokat62

    How long before the Pedo Joe video shows up?

    This has to be the Democrat Party’s worst nightmare. Maxwell can trade tapes of Biden to avoid prosecution.

    和平😇

  187. Herald 说:
    @Herald

    So the second amendment doesn’t work for you.

  188. Castellio 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Dorothy Kilgallen was the only reporter to interview Jack Ruby after his killing of Oswald.

    She believed the Warren Commission was hiding the reality of the conspiracy to kill JFK. She was writing a book based on her research, but the manuscript and her notes disappeared on the same night she died. It was determined she “accidentally killed herself”.

    • 谢谢: ChuckOrloski, Skeptikal
    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  189. @Sparkon

    Like the rest of the world I watched the 2nd plane disappear into World Trade center 2, and when the nose emerged from the opposite side intact, I turned to my co-workers and said: “THIS IS BULLSHIT”, and went back to work. I think that video is still available in some places today. So I was convinced at that moment the entire scene was fake. It took many 10 years to come to the same conclusion, and many more have yet to wake up. Well, I call ‘BULLSHIT’ on the virus and on these race riots too. See y’all in 10 years.

  190. @Castellio

    Hey Castellio!

    ⭐⭐⭐! You know.

    感谢。

  191. Iris 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    亲爱的 O 先生;
    Jack Rubinstein allegedly died from a super-fast spreading lung cancer that would have gone undetected, shortly before his second trial and after he had accused on news camera President Johnson of being responsible for JFK’s assassination:

    A witness who visited Ruby in jail right until his death spoke up in 2013 about his apparent health condition:

    McCoy would visit Ruby behind bars three times. The last visit was right before his death. At that time, McCoy says Ruby appeared to be in good health. Ruby’s official cause of death was a pulmonary embolism caused by lung cancer. That’s something McCoy doesn’t believe for a second.
    “He didn’t have cancer,” said McCoy. “They poisoned him. Somebody did.”

    https://www.newson6.com/story/5e35a73b83eff40362be6f44/jack-ruby-friend-jail-visitor-breaks-silence-after-50-years

    • 谢谢: ChuckOrloski
    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  192. Ace 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    US elites should not have adopted policies that beggared the middle and working classes.

  193. Ace 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    Considering what Anon just added I prefer the “actual plane” theory.

    The collapse of the Towers because fire weakened the girders seems also to fit better with the Occam’s Razor principle. Fuel burning in a confined space with minimal venting (or the effect of a fire storm?) might be able to raise the temperature higher than the combustion that takes place in the open air. No chemical or metallurgical expertise here, I readily admit.

    Rigging charges throughout the Towers on all four (?) structural columns without alerting the superb security chiefs for each Tower just is too implausible. But, as you say, that’s not your theory.

    I’m not one who’s avidly followed the 9/11 crashes. That doesn’t mean there aren’t some oddities. The Israelis, the traces of explosives in their van, the peculiar identity of the employer of the Israelis, the responsibility of an Israeli company for security in Boston, and the odd absence of photography of the crash site at the Pentagon. Almost zero photos.

    It’s like the Skripal poisoning in Wiltshire. The U.K. is the most surveilled state on the planet but the CCTV video record of the movements of the Skripals and what happened at the park bench is strangely unavailable. Ditto for the missing chain of custody paperwork for the Skripals’ bloodwork. A whole day passed before samples were received that had some provable chain of custody. I might have that a bit wrong but John Helmer of Dances with Bears has the precise info in one of his articles about the BBC fantasy production about the Skripal poisoning.

  194. @Ace

    I don’t know if you are right about a lack of photographs at the Pentagon. I recall one with the aircraft’s tail in a believable position. And the number of photos which could show something interesting or different might be so limited, compared with n NYC that it would explain the number.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
    , @Ace
  195. @Ace

    You might consider focussing on the telling fact that the building which was struck much lower down and had therefore much greater weight above the points of weakness collapsed in much less time after the crash than the first one struck higher up.

    A subsidiary point here is that planning the complicated demolition to fit the abilliy of the pilots to hit precisely at the right level stretches credibility.

    • 回复: @Ace
  196. Druid 说:
    @Eighthman

    Some of those night-clubbing/alcohol-drinking “jihadis” are reported to be alive and well!

  197. Druid 说:
    @Trinity

    Saw them all. Spaghetti westerns. They were great. Suggests my age. I actually saw them in theaters in South Africa, growing up

    • 回复: @Trinity
  198. Druid 说:
    @Capablanca

    The jews were the only beneficiaries! The Jew neocons were salivating! Israel before 911 was losing credibility internationally, but after they were like YHWY’s. Guess who along with their minions/henchmen in New York an d DC did it?

  199. Wielgus 说:
    @geokat62

    He was probably “Jewish” when talking to Jews, “friendly” to young girls before he molested them, an “adviser” to Charles and Diana on their marriage despite himself never marrying, enough of an “expert” on mental health to have the keys to Broadmoor hospital, where a male nurse commented that this was a classic case of a lunatic being in charge of the asylum… On a P&O ferry he bothered a 14-year-old girl but her parents were with her and unlike many they were not overawed by Savile and complained to the captain, who forced Savile to stay in his cabin where his meals were sent to him. The captain recommended that Savile not be allowed on P&O again. Few others seemed to have the measure of him.
    Using Savile for a bit of Jew-baiting does not convey the full horror of him by a long shot.

  200. Anon[234]• 免责声明 说:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    It’s an interesting “pincer” movement: on the bottom, you produce fake grassroots movements to make demands on authorities (duping well meaning citizens with lofty rethoric); on the top, you buy legislators or Pedro Sanchez to graciously acquiesce to those demands, and pass the corresponding laws.
    It has been done before to fake Democratic life, but now it is globalized, scientific, flexible with just-in-time delivery. Worldwide activism on demand.

  201. anonymous[251]• 免责声明 说:

    Wild, unsubstantiated Conspiracy Theories have been the bane of American Right Wing Conservatism for most of my life (I was born in 1961).

    Most of these Right Wing Conspiracy theories up through about the year 2000 were that “The Russians” were conspiring to TAKE OVER AMERICA and the entire Free World which somehow included backward mountain Muslim Jihadist tribes in Afghanistan. If you want to feel totally hopeless in American Conservative Right Wing thinking, re-watch that God Awful Rambo III movie where arch patriotic hero, Viet Nam War vet Johnny Rambo goes off to Afghanistan to help the Afghan freedom fighters (8th century Islamic Jihadists that morphed in to the Taliban) fight the evil Russians.

    I was ~ 16 years old when those mobs of dark, hairy Iranian Muslims overran the US Embassy in Tehran and kept Americans hostage for a year and pretty much sacked the Presidency of Jimmy Carter and we elected Ronald Reagan President in a 49 out 50 landslide. 1980s Reagan Conservatives should have simply noticed the great changes in the world and noticed the threat to the USA, the West was the exploding 3rd world populations, Jean Respail Camp of the Saints migrant invasions of the West – but Reagan wasted the 80s fighting the Russians in places like Afghanistan and lecturing Russian leader Michael Gorbachev “Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall”.

    I’m screaming at the TV – “no you senile, clueless Conservative – it’s not 1932 – we need the Russians to help us build the wall between the West and the 3rd world. BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL”.

    Anyway now it’s the hate White people Lib Leftists, Neo Conservative, Zionists and to a lesser extent American Christian ZIonists who are obsessed with Russian Plots to TAKE OVER AMERICA! Evil racist, anti Jewish Russians supposedly STOLE THE ELECTION FROM HILLARY by making some Facebook post calling Hillary a Bitc*.

    Hillary and her Saudi Arabia Chief of Staff Abdullah something (married to Zionist texting, Sexting pervert Anthony Weiner) really were/are bitches.

    That said – straight out of Central Casting, international \$ money changer J#W financier/Cult Marxist George Soros really does massively fund anti Western subversive movements like BlackLiesMatter. Soros’ open borders foundation funded and helped elect our Chicago Cook County DA Kim Foxx. Kim Believes Black African Americans should pretty much be exempt from any punishment for crimes like car jacking, wilding attacks, mass looting and even murder.

    Sensible, successful populist/nationalists leaders like Victor Orban in Hungary have made George Soros the #1 bad guy – the Star Wars Evil Emperor and given the boot to Soros’ Open Borders Foundation.

    But American Conservative Inc won’t do this – that’s something HITLER would do, ie run effective political campaigns against mass Communist riots, looting, oppose International Finance \$ money changers, oppose mass inflation and mass unemployment.

    American Conservative Inc prefers to keep chugging along pandering to AIPAC and the .4% ~ 0 % of American Jews that might vote GOP.

    Some things that fall in to the “Conspiracy theory” sh** really are just observations about true, unpleasant facts like the FACT that an ethnic Jewish mafia really does dominate the US mass Media, all Hollywood studios and now all Cable TV news networks. Tucker Carlson might be the last honest White guy on American Cable TV and he’s in the cross hair by the Chosen to get taken out same as Bill O’Reilly.

    我们是做什么的?

    I suggest getting the electronic device TV B Gone- it Zaps off Zio Media everywhere including Airport lounges.

    Other things to do – get more of your news and commentary from Russia Today and other Eastern European countries that produce English language news.

    Also try to keep a sense of humor and a stiff upper lip – the Dis United USA is falling down in to 1967-69 racial, criminal and Leftist political anarchy- look around for some tough guys, preferable tough Italian guys like Philly police chief/mayor Frank Rizo or Sherif Joe A.

    Have some fun out there and don’t fall down in to wild, unsubstantiated conspiracy theory where everything is supposedly controlled, evil and the only thing we can do is to vote 3rd party Libertarian Constitutionalists who always win less than 0%.

  202. anonymous[251]• 免责声明 说:
    @Trinity

    Trinity writes:

    “The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion ( Seems like everything written has become true?)”

    我回应:

    It’s always been charged that the Protocols are a “Forgery” and they probably are a forgery.

    But remember, a “forgery” is a copy of an original.

    If a copy of an original fits the facts, is documented by honest J people like LA Times writer Joel Stein

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html&#8221;

    The reality is that having CNN on in your bar, family living room is the same as having, fat hateful J Jeff Zucker given the floor to insult and threaten you, corrupt your children.

    • 回复: @Trinity
    , @Wizard of Oz
  203. @Ace

    “The collapse of the Towers because fire weakened the girders seems also to fit better with the Occam’s Razor principle. Fuel burning in a confined space with minimal venting (or the effect of a fire storm?) might be able to raise the temperature higher than the combustion that takes place in the open air. No chemical or metallurgical expertise here, I readily admit.”

    But the thing is, you can’t have “fuel burning in a confined space with minimal venting” and expect to generate much heat. This is one of the fundamental problems with the official narrative, IMO. And the more air flow you have, the more heat loss by convection you have.

    Years ago I did a few rough calculations on the airflow required to heat one WTC floor’s worth of steel and concrete thermal mass to 700 degrees C in one hour (and this was neglecting heat loss by conduction and radiation) and the numbers I got (assuming typical heat efficiency of a “fireplace”) were astronomical.

    • 回复: @Ace
  204. Trinity 说:
    @Druid

    I’ll turn fitty-nine on July 18th, hard to believe but we only have two choices, die young or grow old. Still I am glad I grew up when I did, I at least was able to see America when it was REALLY AMERICA. I grew up in the Seventies and America was starting to show some rather pressing issues then but it was paradise compared to what the young, ( particularly White youngsters) have to endure today. And I was blessed to be around when music was worth listening to, and even Jewywood put out a decent movie every now and then, the Trinity movies among them.

    Speaking of the youngsters, you under 40 somethings really should stop placing all that blame on the Boomers and direct it towards the real villains who DESTROYED AMERICA. First and foremost, the so-called, “Greatest Generation” lead the pack, followed by “the Silent Generation.” These were the two main culprits in sending America on a downward spiral. And alas before you lay blame on the Boomers, take a good hard look at the Millenials, Zoomers, Gen Xers or whatever those who followed the Boomers tag themselves with. Your groups are pathetic. Emasculated males, androgynous females, physically and mentally weak, lazy, cowardly, race traitors, the list goes on, and you youngsters might even take the number one spot from the Greatest Generation. Oops, I’m ranting and raving again and totally off the reservation and I haven’t even had my coffee yet. Sorry.

    • 同意: anaccount, anarchyst
  205. Trinity 说:
    @anonymous

    haha. Nice cartoon. Yes siree, the Talmudvision has been doing the job since the Walter Cronkite days and even before then. I love how the clueless goyim point to Walter Cronkite as “the most trusted man in America.”

    Jews pretending to be “Nazis” on the Doprah Pigfrey Show confessing how wrong they were for espousing racism towards Blacks, Jews, and others nonwhites. haha. The Jewish couple who LIED about meeting each other in a concentration camp, “but it was real in my mind.” Catch (((these people))) in a lie and it doesn’t even faze them, they move on to orchestrate another lie. Remember the chain smoking Jewish clown with the Irish surname, Morton Downey Jr. and his scripted show? Downey Jr. would have his 15 minutes, he was the original (((Jerry Springer))) back in the day. Downey Jr.’s credibility took a drop when he staged a FAKE incident where he was allegedly attacked by skinheads in some airport ( forget which city.) The proof that this was yet another FAKE HOAX might have been the backward Swastikas that adorned Downey Jr.’s ugly mug. smdh and lolol. Besides Doprah, we had the definitive neutered and emasculated cuckold named Phil Donahue. My gawd, can a straight heterosexual male act any more gay than Donahue?

    • 回复: @anonymous
  206. Meimou 说:
    @Ace

    The collapse of the Towers because fire weakened the girders seems also to fit better with the Occam’s Razor principle

    Only to those inclined to believe in the official narrative and believe what they were told instead of what they saw. The towers simply didn’t “collapse”, they 爆炸. Debris ejected outward. A steel beam even got stuck in another building. A fire cannot do that.

    • 回复: @Ace
  207. Meimou 说:
    @Ace

    Rigging charges throughout the Towers on all four (?) structural columns without alerting the superb security chiefs for each Tower just is too implausible. But, as you say, that’s not your theory.

    1.How do you know they were superb?

    2. If the CT theory is true security would have been certainly compromised.

    3. The improbability of placing explosives in the towers it doesn’t change the 不可能 of a fire making wtc1&2 explode or wtc7 implode.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Ace
  208. Dustin 说:
    @Colin Wright

    No that’s not cheap in terms of your average, middle-class, American households, but fo the Soros’s, the Gate’s, the Bezos’s, and hell, even the Trumps, the costs of resources & the disposable
    Of immigrants, actors/paid rioters or not, reliable manpower amount of money in total to successfully do so and stay off people’s ‘corruption alert-radars’ is still literally ‘Chump Change’ w/ regards to The Elites average total net-worth. Like the amount of change a middle-income person finds in their couch!!

  209. @ChuckOrloski

    And in addition to that, Iran seems to be having some serious problems with fires and explosions recently, and then there’s this:

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/07/03/US-seeks-seizure-of-4-Iranian-tankers-shipping-gas-to-Venezuela/7311593761264/

    Apparently team orange clown realizes he wont be reelected (if there’s an election later this year) so they’re stepping up their efforts to start a major war. It seems these next few months are going to be very dangerous.

    • 谢谢: ChuckOrloski
    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
  210. anonymous[251]• 免责声明 说:
    @Trinity

    Goeie Middag Trinity – glad you liked my/Farstar’s cartoons.

    Here are some more of mine/ours. Most of the ideas are mine, Farstar is the excellent artist who brings them to life.

    https://artoffarstar88.wordpress.com

    I believe it’s best to finesse the JQ a lot -sure , notice and speak out against very real, hateful and just bad things done by very real bad J people, J groups, but it’s not generally successful to obsess on the JQ or blamed them for everything bad like this coast to coast Antifa/BLM rioters, looting. So many bad, cowardly White Gentiles like Utah Sen. Mittens Romney “taking the knee”.

    Also, I recommend trying to find positive things, people, trends in the real world – all is not gloom and doom. Central and Eastern Europe look and feel great.

    If you get down on events in North America – do a search on the video of Russian Cossacks reborn breaking up a cult Marxist Pussy Riot Demonstration. The Cossacks spray the Pussy Riot gal with pepper spray, whip them with Cossack whips and call them “American Whores”.

    Got to love the fact that the patriotic Cossacks are back in the saddle in holly Mother Russia.

    • 谢谢: Trinity
  211. geokat62 说:

    “The U.S.-Israel relationship 保护 our troops.”

    The level of chutzpah is off the charts!

    Rather than protecting the troops, the special relationship puts them in harms way.

  212. Skeptikal 说:
    @Iris

    I couldn’t understand what was said on the embedded video.

    Could you transcribe it, and ID the speakers?

    谢谢。

    • 回复: @Iris
    , @Olivier1973
  213. Skeptikal 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I believe all the videos from webcams at nearby businesses and other buildings have been impounded and have never been made public.

    • 回复: @Ace
  214. Skeptikal 说:
    @Colin Wright

    你可能是对的。

    But whatever the story/cost/backers of the trek itself, the fact is that Honduras was made into a walking and living hell by the State Department-backed coup that toppled a democratically elected president, Zelaya.

    We talk a lot about Hillary’s mismanagement cum cackling about the mess she created in Libya and the awful death of Qaddafi, but shtum’s the word on Honduras.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/world/americas/29honduras.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Human_rights_abuses_of_the_interim_government

  215. Iris 说:
    @Skeptikal

    Hey. The dialogue was between Jack Rubinstein and a journalist, to whom Ruby clarified an answer he previously gave. One can guess from the dialogue what the journalist’s question was.

    Ruby: I want to correct what I said before about the Vice-President.
    Journalist: The Vice President?
    Ruby: Yes I do. When I mentioned about Adlai Stevenson. If he was Vice President there would never have been an assassination of our beloved President Kennedy.
    Journalist: Would you explain again?
    Ruby: Well, the answer is the man in office now.

    From 0:45 with captions:

    • 谢谢: ChuckOrloski, Hiram of Tyre
  216. geokat62 说:

    • 谢谢: Iris
  217. Duke84 说:
    @Ace

    Yes C399 was ballistically matched to Oswald’s Carcano and he used a Smith and Wesson .38 to murder officer Tippit.

    • 哈哈: ChuckOrloski
    • 回复: @Iris
  218. Duke84 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    He did stand trial in 1964 and was convicted of Oswald’s murder.He died three years later in January of 1967.

    • 回复: @Iris
  219. @anonymous

    Wrong about forgeries generally. The Donation of Constantine was a forgery that had no genuine original. E.g. (Likewise cheques)

  220. @Harold Smith

    Hey Harold Smith!

    Re; article linked down below, Russia has lobbed back the manipulative bounty claim, and outed US for drug trafficking.

    Fyi, President Putin’s special envoy for Afghanistan affairs, Zamir Kabulov, accused US intelligence operatives (in Afghanistan) of drug trafficking.

    I suspect our Zio media will soon tell both the “orange clown” and us how the killer deals all went down.🤪

    Thank you very much, Harold.

    https://tolonews.com/afghanistan/russia-answers-bounty-claims-says-us-drug-trafficking

    • 回复: @Albert F.
  221. Iris 说:
    @Duke84

    The “Magic Bullet” forensic evidence was the most safe-defeating proof by which the Warren Conmmission shot itself in both feet and proved the total absurdity of its conclusions.

    The bullet allegedly shot by Oswald and found on a stretcher at Parkland Hospital (just after Jack Ruby visited the hospital) was absolutely pristine.

    An identical test bullet, shot on cadaver wrists for experimentation by the WC, came out flttened and deformed.

    They were put side by side in Exhibit CE 399, as a perpetual reminder of the mockery the Warren Commission was. Meet the pristine “Magic Bullet”:

    • 回复: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Duke84
  222. @obwandiyag

    Would gladly discuss this with you, one on one, say e-mail. I am convinced that what you say could have substance. The way some here got peddling the medical effect of Corona and insisted on it, is quite timely an indicator for one, the Jewishness(and the silence about it by all) of the writers is also quite “beyond” to be discussed, another strong indicator.

    • 回复: @obwandiyag
  223. Iris 说:
    @Duke84

    Rubinstein did kill Oswald all right, but Oswald did not kill anybody, and did not even fire a gun.

    So why did Ruby really kill Oswald?
    As per his own confession to his Rabbi, Ruby “did it for the Jewish people“。

  224. @Iris

    亲爱的鸢尾!

    Lee Harvey Oswald was James Jesus Angleton’s creature from cradle to grave.

    Fyi, I prefer to ignore Duke84.

    • 回复: @Iris
  225. Barzini 说:

    With regard to the coronavirus hysteria, I would make two observations. First, in big events of this magnitude the official government version put forward by the MSM does not hold up. Secondly, the truth will come out. Neither Giraldi’s observations nor those of the various conspiracy theorists will likely hold up. These things take years. So don’t take anything you read on this website too seriously. You have to be patient.

  226. Iris 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Lee Harvey Oswald was James Jesus Angleton’s creature from cradle to grave.

    Maybe, dear Mr O. Oswald was a complex persona.

    It becomes obvious after reading JFK assassination material that Oswald was a US intelligence asset all along, that he did not fire a single shot, and that he’d been long set up as a patsy for a carefully prepared operation.

    He was not meant to be taken alive to the Dallas Police Deprtment.
    He was smart enough to quickly understand he’d been set up. By unexpectedly escaping the TSBD and deliberately missing his appointment with Officer Tippit, he escaped the planned early execution and set up in motion a chain of event that greatly uncovered the conspiracy.

    The second major hiccup of the JFK assassination conspiracy was that the main sniper behind JFK failed several attempts to deliver a headshot, triggering another hitman to do so from the Grassy Knoll. Hope all is well; kind regards.

  227. anaccount 说:

    I hoped to learn something new from this conspiracy article but instead I read an establishment riff on Corona and a pretty basic Soros rant. Bill O’Reilly was trash talking Soros twenty years ago on my dad’s TV. Tell me something I don’t know.

  228. obwandiyag 说:
    @PetrOldSack

    Sorry, but you won’t like me, because I believe the coronavirus is very real and very much a bioweapon.

    Most people on here want it to be both a hoax and a bioweapon. Which is impossible.

    Cognitive dissonance is no problem for them.

    • 同意: ChuckOrloski
  229. @Skeptikal

    Everyone who had a look into JFK assassination knows that it was a conspiracy led by LBJ and Allen Dulles whose brother was Major of Dallas. JR testimony is only one small piece of testimony of that fact.

    Died like Epstein. US prisons are not safe when the power of some people are in jeopardy.

    I guess this book was never translated into English:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3830527-jfk-le-dernier-t-moin

    What a pity. You have the confession of an insider.

  230. @Iris

    The second major hiccup of the JFK assassination conspiracy was that the main sniper behind JFK failed several attempts to deliver a headshot,

    One succeeded when the limo stopped. Just a fraction of a second before the headshot from the front with a special bullet. There were at least three snipers.

    Also the Z film was massively edited. Reymond saw the unedited film and the conspiracy is in plain sight. A bullet stuck the Stemmons Freeway Sign. And quickly that road sign was removed. Like the windshield of the limo, also stuck by bullet.

    • 回复: @Iris
  231. Sparkon 说:
    @Iris

    No, the first shot hit Pres. Kennedy in the throat, and was fired from in front of the motorcade.

    The famous Ike Altgens photograph taken seconds after the first shot shows JFK clutching at his throat, Jackie reaching over to him, a bullet hole in the windshield of the limo, and Oswald standing in the doorway of the TSBD.

    At least 6 witnesses saw the bullet hole in the windshield. Douglas P. Horne reports:

    [更多]

    1) Dallas motorcycle patrolmen Stavis Ellis and H. R. Freeman both observed a penetrating bullet hole in the limousine windshield at Parkland Hospital. Ellis told interviewer Gil Toff in 1971: “There was a hole in the left front windshield…You could put a pencil through it…you could take a regular standard writing pencil…and stick [it] through there.” Freeman corroborated this, saying: “[I was] right beside it. I could of [sic] touched it…it was a bullet hole. You could tell what it was.” [David Lifton published these quotations in his 1980 book, 最佳证据.]

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/06/douglas-p-horne/photographic-evidence-of-bullet-hole-in-jfk-limousine-windshield-hiding-in-plain-sight/

    Nigel Turner, in his documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy identified George Whitaker Sr, as the Ford Motor Company employee mentioned in Weldon’s work. Douglas Horne, in his book, Inside the ARRB pg 1447 also identified Whitaker as the employee who witnessed the condition of the windshield, and verified that the hole had been caused by a shot from the front, with fragmentation and beveling present on the inside. Shards of this fragmentation called stippling, were known to have struck the President in the face and neck. These were later removed and its effects covered with wax during the process of embalming and preparation of the body for burial.

    Caption: Professor Jim Fetzer poses at the location believed to have been the position of the sniper who shot JFK through the windshield and his throat. Nice and cozy, well protected, and out of view.

    http://merdist.com/wp/2018/12/02/the-shot-from-the-front/

    • 回复: @Iris
  232. anastasia 说:

    Brother. All that is happening and he still doesn’t see it for what it is.

  233. Duke84 说:
    @Iris

    CE 399 was in no way pristine.More boneheaded conspiracy nonsense.

  234. Albert F. 说:

    Why is everyone so enthralled by “conspiracy theories “? This economy based on the Asians giving gold based credit accounts to favored militaristic capitalists of the world is almost as old as the use of gold as a currency. Every disaster begins with a cabal of warriors fueled with cheap capital and an army of cheap labor. When are the people of the U.S. going to wake up and stop turning on the t.v. looking for ‘news’?

  235. @04398436986

    actually, it was the anglo-american who decided to kill every single buffalo on the north american continent. the reason? because it was the food source for the indians. this is common knowledge to anyone with wild west relatives or anyone descended from us army operations during the wild west.

    spaniards had sex with natives. anglos raped natives then killed them and their buffaloes.

    simple as that. different attitudes towards others. two different empires.

    who kills buffaloes just to watch them die? the anglos.

  236. Albert F. 说:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Since U.S. Marines landed in the ‘Stan’, opium poppy cultivation has risen by 1,000%. If that ain’t dope dealing, I don’t know what is!

    • 同意: Trinity, ChuckOrloski
  237. Willow626 说:
    @another fred

    Yet with so many of the conspiracies you keep coming across the same names or family lines.

  238. Iris 说:
    @Sparkon

    At least 6 witnesses saw the bullet hole in the windshield

    Oh, there is not a shadow of a doubt that JFK limousine’s windscreen was hit, the limo flown to the Ford Rouge factory, and the windscreen replaced.

    But it does not mean that the windscreen was necessarily hit 从前面. Missed shots from behind JFK could also have caused the windscreen hole reported by eyewitnesses.

    JFK’s throat wound remains a point for which no satisfactory explanation, of superior plausibility to the others, has imposed itself.

    Actually, this striking animation of real pictures of JFK’s shirt would indicate that no bullet entered his throat (we know that Parkland doctors later performed a tracheotomy on the dying President).
    So maybe JFK’s grabbing his throat was just a breathing reflex, after a bullet hit his back.

    • 回复: @Sparkon
  239. Iris 说:
    @Olivier1973

    Reymond saw the unedited film and the conspiracy is in plain sight

    Indeed, Olivier. The Zapruder film was edited, but this could only be done with the crude and unsophisticated techniques of the time.

    What was called “the French Zapruder film” was reputed to be an unedited version that secretely circulated in France late 60’s-early 70’s, showing the limousine total stop in front of the Grassy Knoll in particular. Author William Reymond claims to have watched it.

  240. Ace 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Thank you. I was unaware of the photo of the tail. I haven’t exactly scoured the internet for 9/11 photos but with the prominence of the charge that an aircraft couldn’t maneuver so, only a missile, I expected there to be a more ubiquitous refutation. There seemed to be a strange overall paucity of photos of anything at the Pentagon other than of building damage.

  241. Ace 说:
    @Skeptikal

    Ah hah! Thanks.

    Totally believable. They’ll probably go missing like the x-ray(s) of JFK’s and Foster’s skulls. 🙂

  242. Ace 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Both good points, esp. the second one. It’s one thing to, say, rig the charges but something else to have the planes hit a prearranged floor.

  243. Sparkon 说:
    @Iris

    But it does not mean that the windscreen was necessarily hit from the front. Missed shots from behind JFK could also have caused the windscreen hole reported by eyewitnesses.

    No, the direction of the shot was determined by the characteristics of the bullet hole in the windshield by at least two knowlegable people who saw it. That point was already addressed in my previous comment, but Giraldi hid it behind the MORE tag.

    …Whitaker as the employee who witnessed the condition of the windshield, and verified that the hole had been caused by a shot from the front, with fragmentation and beveling present on the inside.

    • 回复: @Iris
  244. Iris 说:
    @Sparkon

    What you say is correct. After the anonymous confession Whitaker made to Doug Weldon in 1993, he wrote a testimony to be made public after his death, which ocurred in 2001.

    In Episode 7 of “The Men Who Killed Kennedy“, entitled “The Smoking Guns,” the text of Whitaker’s memo can be read on freezed frames. It said:

    “When arrived at the lab the door was locked. I was let in. There were 2 glass engineers there. They had a car windshield that had a bullet hole in it. The hole was about 4 or 6 inches to the right of the rear view mirror [as viewed from the front]. The impact had come from the front of the windshield. (If you have spent 40 years in the glass [illegible] you know which way the impack [sic] was from.”

    However, no other evidence supports an early shot from the front: in particular, why would the perpetrators have rushed shooting at their accomplices, SS agents and Connolly, who were in the way?

    Ambush techniques require triangulation of fire, one shooter behind and another parallel to the moving target’s trajectory. This configuration concurs with the very precise information Attorney Garrison got at the time: there was 3 teams of assassins, one behind the limousine, two at the Grassy Knoll.

    • 回复: @Castellio
  245. @Meimou

    The explosion you refer to is inconsistent with the description Ron Unz has given of collapsing into their own footprints. But, as it happens, yours is a more accurate description. The trouble is it doesn’t prove demolition by explosives. There would be plenty of horizontal vectors created by the pressures created by the collapsing thousands of tons of superstructure on to the floors below

  246. Ace 说:
    @Harold Smith

    Touche. Perhaps I can save my argument by positing extreme 吸收 of heat by building materials in the interior, i.e., insufficient cooling.

    I wonder, too, if the conditions were such as to make a firestorm less likely due to the small entrance hole. I don’t recall an exit hole. If not, all air intake would have to be through the entrance hole and, maybe, from small building ventilation ducts. Highly restricted flow? Ditto even if there were exit holes?

    But then perhaps even a non-firestorm could transfer enormous heat to the structure.

    Not to discount these arguments about heat but I do think it’s possible to overthink this. Underthinking is bad too but, when one gets down to the basics the fact is that one plane flew into each tower. No question. Fires erupted. The buildings came down. (Or, to borrow from Bill de Blasio, down came the buildings. ) :–) It’s that simple. The “fake moon landing” crowd will never quit but it seems indisputable that those planes just 可能 have had something to do with the collapse of the towers.

    That leaves the critical inquiries as who and why which is where I suspect the mother lode is. Finding it is no mean feat as it is beyond clear now that we live under a ten-mile-high ocean of lies, as Mr. Unz’s American Pravda series makes crystal clear. That said, the whole Silverstein affair calls to mind the Richard Pryor witticism, “You gonna believe what I’m sayin’ or are you gonna believe your lyin’ eyes?”

  247. Ace 说:
    @Meimou

    I don’t doubt the explosion(s) outward as the structures pancaked into the ground. Debris is seen escaping outward as the tower collapsed. My guess is that it looks consistent with each floor collapsing under the weight of the collapsed upper floors with air being compressed and expelled at each level. I’m not wedded to that but, again, keeping it simple stays away from the complicated “emplaced explosives” theory I prefer to think the physics of a huge building’s collapse would involve some very powerful internal forces.

    • 回复: @paranoid goy
  248. Ace 说:
    @Meimou

    1. The security chief of one tower was a retired FBI man. I don’t recall the details of his career but he was a standup guy and wouldn’t have allowed any charges to be emplaced in his building. Professional demolition techs drill holes in beams and run detonation cord up and down through holes drilled in floors and ceilings. Nothing even remotely like that could go undetected by guards and maintenance staff, not to mention the foot traffic that would have been involved in setting such a complicated array of charges.

    The other security chief was an infantry platoon leader in Nam who appears to have exemplified every quality of the perfect combat leader who got the job done but also deeply cared about his men.

    So I base my assessment of the men on what I’ve read about them in the past. Sorry, no links readily at hand.

    2. Correct. But the compromise theory requires both of the above outstanding men to have chosen to become greasy betrayers of their fellow citizens. I think they were exactly like the female fighter pilot whose fighter could not be loaded with ammo quickly enough. She was, however, willing to intercept the flight over Pennsylvania and endanger her life by using the wing of her aircraft to bring down the airliner. I believe many of my fellow officer candidates and unit officers would have acted in the same way. They would have done their duty and not tolerated a betrayal of any kind.

    3. I’m not convinced of that impossibility. It is more likely that the explosives theory is an impossibility AND the precise mechanism or sequence of events that collapsed the towers is, arguably, not properly understood at this time.

  249. There are two types of conspiracies. Fake one which is produced by the elite and visible everywhere, and a true one invisible or almost invisible because the elite prevent their publishing.

  250. ariadna 说:
    @Duke84

    You’re a funny guy. Master of the genre known as unconscious humor

  251. Castellio 说:
    @Iris

    Iris… I have a question I am hoping you can answer. What’s the story with the book JFK & The Unspeakable? I look in the index and ‘Israel’ is not there, and yet the book purportedly deals with (among other things) JFK’s desire to impede the proliferation of nuclear weapons. Great detail on some issues, and yet this yawning void on others. What is going on? Do you know?

    • 回复: @Iris
  252. Iris 说:
    @Castellio

    Hello. I am sure many knowledgeable commenters here can answer your question, and I hope they will too.

    As for me, I loved “JFK and the Unspeakable”, and I believe it is the very best among the politically-correct books written abouk JFK’s assassination. By politically-correct, I mean those books one can mention as a reference, in an article, in public or in a converstaion, without risking being labelled a conspiracy theorist or an anti-Semite.

    James Douglass has exposed very convincingly and intelligently the 核心 reason why JFK was murdered: he wanted to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons, stop the arm race, and had become a peace warrior.

    Once this is established, readers can draw their own conclusions as per who most likely and obviously conspired to kill the President: the MIC and Israel.

    But such a thing cannot be said openly in our time and age. So the real question is: is it permitted to criticise Isreal? And the answer is a resounding “No”. Not even if Isreal is obviously involved in organising the killing of a US president, or masterminding an act of genocide wiping out 3000 Americans in exploded towers.

    James Douglass has carried over a crucially important message to the public; he cannot be blamed for the dictatorial times we live in. Best.

    • 同意: Robjil
  253. JWalters 说:
    @another fred

    I agree that not one group is in control at a global level. But in the Anglo-American empire there are a lot of strings that appear to go to a single control center. For example, see 战争奸商和以色列银行
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    I have not looked into Soros, but anybody analyzing the conflicts in the Middle East without mentioning Israel’s giant role is at best suspicious.

  254. KA 说:

    Wikileaks have dumped lot of cables showing the depravities of Israel and American acquiescence to the open barbarism but was not covered by the media . Media focussed on exposures of American German British Pakistan and lot of other nations but did not cover Israel. This silence was used as evidence of Wikileaks being soft on Israel and Assange being a stooge or plant of Israel. A conspiracy was hatched to discredit Wikileaks and it had succeeded .

    https://consortiumnews.com/2020/07/09/the-revelations-of-wikileaks-no-8-busting-the-myth-wikileaks-published-nothing-on-israel-syria/

  255. @A123

    The most powerful ‘Muslim’ on the planet is George ‘IslamoSoros’ and blablabla

    换一种说法:
    “B-b-but Gyorgy Swartz is an ARAB, not a JEW!!! HONEST!!! PLEASE believe me, goyi… I mean My Fellow White People!!!”

    LOL

    Not only is Mr. Schwartz indisputably a member of the Tribe of Supreme Victims according to any mainstream interpretation of halachic law, but the ideology that he promotes is, of course, classic rootless cosmopolitanism. And he clearly qualifies to make 阿利亚 在下面 Law of “Return,” 当然。

  256. @geokat62

    I hope Epstein made videos
    There have been suggestions that Epstein made secret videos of all the men who had sex in his houses and planes. I hope he did and they are all revealed, because they will prove I am not among them. I hereby waive any right of privacy in Epstein videos.

    Uh huh. What Dershowitz really means, of course, is:
    “As a fanatical Zionist, I’m confident that I have the full backing of the Mossad — they would 决不要 release the videos they have of ME — we’re on the same side here.”

    参见 this recent development in the Guiffre vs. Dershowitz case:

    “Attorneys representing Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre must destroy evidence from her case against Ghislaine Maxwell after improperly gaining access to documents”

    Seems like a pretty strong “suggestion.” Remember the coverage from when the FBI raided the Epstein/ Wexner mansion in NYC a year ago?

    “It added that the search uncovered ‘at least hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially nude females.’

    A number of those photographs ‘appear to be of 未成年女孩, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken.’

    It is also noted that some photos were discovered in a locked safe, where agents ‘also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.”‘

    Note also how Dershowitz frames the issue in the above tweet:
    爱泼斯坦 made videos”
    爱泼斯坦 made secret videos”
    he did”
    爱泼斯坦 videos”

    He’s really hammering away on muh one man, acting alone — no Wexner, no Israeli or US security services/ intelligence agencies… this 一个人 做到了 单枪匹马. And he’s dead.

    Seems like a change in emphasis from last year’s New York Mag interview*, where Dershowitz seemed determined to name-drop as many prominent individuals as possible (Shimon Peres, John Glenn, etc.) as close Epstein/ Wexner associates, including this interesting claim:

    “A family friend, 林恩·弗雷斯特·德·罗斯柴尔德, he said, invited him to a party for her husband, Lord Rothschild, where she introduced him to Jeffrey Epstein. “She said, ‘I have this friend, he really would like to meet you,’” Dershowitz said.”

    Sure, his intent was likely to portray it as “Look at all of these prominent, “respected” individuals who were friends with the guy. How was I supposed to know?” But it can easily by interpreted as yet another “conspiracy theory”…

    *Possibly relevant — the NY Mag interview was in July. Epstein died in August.

  257. I thought this Giraldi was serious among dimwits you usually this site, but nope I was wrong
    First goes on a rant about Soros history, then somehow ties it to riots that made me most proud of my state and city, we are not accepting anymore cop crimes, get that thru your skull for a minute.

    I am a proud immigrant

    And, no I am not scared of you, go to hell.

  258. @Sparkon

    From the very beginning, Gallup Polls have shown that a majority of Americans have rejected the idea that Oswald acted alone.

    So how do you deal with that from the narrative control standpoint? As Alden (comment #160) notes:

    There are so many theories about the John Kennedy assassination they cancel each other out.

    This is not an accident. If there’s too much skepticism about the officially-endorsed narrative… just promote multiple conflicting alternative narratives, with emphasis on the more ridiculous/ improbable ones. See also 9/11 and muh “holographic planes.”

  259. DrWatson 说:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Thanks for this link. Some of the information provided in the wikipedia article is new to me. I was living in the US at the time of the attack so naturally I was following the developments closely. Unless somebody provides evidence that this is indeed that happened I doubt it (i.e. that Odigo got a message with an antisemitic slur about the impending attack, without specifically naming the location of the attack). It also contradicts the story about the “dancing Israelis” https://dancingisraelis.com/.

  260. DrWatson 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I bet the evidence is not there anymore. There used to be a country-wise stat after 9/11 listing the nationality of the victims perished in the WTC on that day. There was only one Israeli, a rabbi, in the Windows on the World restaurant (top of the building) who was on vacation and apparently not “well-connected” enough to be notified.

  261. @04398436986

    The article irritated me endlessly. Then came your comment. As senseless as the article, congrats for being ultra relevant, at least as far as poor form and lack of sense goes.
    I think you and giraldi conspired against me for the purposes of wasting my internet data…

  262. @Ace

    That “pancake” collapse has never happened before or after. Thousands of engineers working together using the most modern modelling tools, could not get that to happen even on a computer, where perfect situations are taken for granted. Yet the official explanation revolves around some vision of perfect theoretical…what the hell, they never even bothered to prove anything with science, as a matter of fact, their one and only defence against criticism of their “theories” was some suited wanker standing on my teevee telling me that “questioning the official explanation is blasphemy” Yes, the little bastard actually used the term “blasphemy”!
    Why are we still arguing about this? By now, the only people still hung up on 911 terrorists, are the ones protecting the perpetrators. I you have ANY doubts about the “official narrative”, then tell us about those passports that survived the magnificent crash that “melted steel beams”. Come on, you are so logical and beloved of truth, explain the passports, please. If you swallow that bull, you probably believe Covid-19 is a health crisis.
    There ain’t no pills for willful ignorance.
    Insurance fraud is not a conspiracy theory, it is a crime against the lord Mammon.

    https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/32-paranoid-goy/economics/109-911-wayleave
    https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/12-paranoid-goy/165-911fraud

    • 回复: @Ace
  263. Ace 说:
    @paranoid goy

    Forgive me if I retain a smidgen of skepticism about modeling software. Michael Mann and that jasper in England whose killer modeling software for the spread of Covid-19 come to mind as cautionary tales about modeling. But that doesn’t mean the modeling tools to which you refer aren’t up to the task. As to that, I have to say I’ll give credence to the results you describe if there is some expert assessment of those tools, presumably software tools. Having someone point to a purple box and telling me some conclusions came out of it isn’t persuasive on any point.

    Too, your expert analysts remind of the presumably apocryphal story of the engineers who analyzed the bumble bee and concluded that according to all the known laws of physics and aerodynamics it’s impossible that such a creature could fly.

    I have no problem with anyone questioning the official narrative. Given what’s come out about Russiagate and the tidal waves of lies that surround our grisly involvement in Syria and our stupid hostility to Russia and Iran, I think that should go without saying.

    I’ve heard of those passports but never seen a photo of them. Assuming they were found in pristine shape in the rubble, I can only say it seems impossible they could have been on the person of any hijacker and survived what happened after the a/c struck the tower. Perhaps they were in luggage in the hold and somehow were protected from the extreme heat by the surviving (?) fuselage/luggage compartment long enough for the collapse to occur. There’s the question of what else was discovered in the rubble. If there were other intact personal articles lying around the existence of the passports might not seem so weird.

    Not my deal and I have no intention of studying this in detail. Let others do that. I do, however, start from the position that a big ass aircraft that slams into a very tall building and creates a massive fire is probably what caused the tower to come down. Call me crazy but that seems the simplest explanation whereas all the other “explanations” seem forced to me and to require several layers of well-hidden teamwork to make sense.

  264. Engineering models are not to be confused with statistical models. Engineers rely on decades and centuries of tests and records of materials and construction methods to predict the behaviour of structures under various stresses, and unlike the models used for global warming, Covert-19 scaremongering and economics theories, engineering models take no account of the political affiliations or moral standpoint of the person utilising the model.
    The engineering software used to model millions of scenarios for 911 was open, free and thousands of people spent their time and processing power to reconstract the fairytale of a building falling down in its own footprint after a plane crash, and not one came close to the fabulous nonsense sold for 911.
    https://www.ae911truth.org/
    Go see the ‘Net for many, many photos of aeroplanes shot down by missiles, flying into structures… Engineers have a joke about building weapons from cheap plastic sunglasses, at every crash site, you always find lots of them in perfect condition! Which brings us to the the debris at the crash sites:Nothing! They found one wheel 15 or 25 miles from the Pennsylvania “crash site” that is actually just a rural rubbish pit. The various pictures offered as ‘plane parts in New York are either bits of aircon ducting, a lift hoist motor and just photoshopped nonsense. The only debris ever found was that darn passport, “came fluttering down at the feet of a FBI agent” we are told. Who keeps his passport in the luggage compartment, anyway? Just like Charlie Hebdo, where the “terries” stopped to pick up a lost shoe, and dropped a passport? These bastards think we are so dumb, they even use the same childish nonsense lies!
    And just to be sure, “Jet Fuel” is actually kerosene, go melt a needle with your Zippo and then we talk about plane fuel melting structural steel, which is much harder than, say, fence posts.
    I must ask, though: did you follow my link to the article showing the whole thing was insurance fraud?
    https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/32-paranoid-goy/economics/109-911-wayleave
    There really were no terrorists, no missiles (Pentagon excepted) and no Arabs with boxcutters. For heaven’s sake, one of those terrorists’ mama actually tried to sue for libel, her “dead terrorist” son is sitting right there in her kitchen eating falafel!
    Also, I never, ever suggested I am an expert at no nuffin’. But a cat may look at a king. Especially if the thing walks around stark naked…

    • 回复: @Ace
  265. Ace 说:
    @paranoid goy

    感谢。

    I remain skeptical of models. Two large aircraft slammed into two tall buildings and caught fire. Then the buildings collapsed. Good enough for me. The whole thing about “the physics just don’t hold up” approach seems like the weakest thing about understanding 9/11. The dancing Israelis and their sketchy Israeli employer, an Israeli firm in charge of security at the Boston airport, Silverstein’s amazing prescience in taking out that insurance, and other Israeli activities in the country seem to hold the key to it all.

    Good point about passports unlikely to be in hold luggage. The passport is very odd and the story that an FBI saw it at his feet is as plausible as anything else the FBI comes up with, not least because of their “investigation” of TWA 800.

    First I’ve heard of mom and her son. He should have been instantly interviewed but he wasn’t. So . . . he doesn’t exist or mom’s got a scam going.

    Applying a lighter flame to a steel needle to explain anything is like sticking my finger into a goldfish bowl to try to explain a shark attack at the local beach.

    I followed your link but read no further than “There were no planes.”

  266. Ah! It is said in some circles “facts don’t matter when you hold the moral high ground”. How can I argue with logic like that?
    And just to be sure, trying to melt a pin with your Zippo is EXACTLY like putting your finger in a fishbowl to demonstrate a shark attack, an excersize in futility that demonstrates the total lack of suitable teeth on a goldfish.
    As for that chappie visiting mom? The ONLY network willing at the time would be Al Jazeera, but the Yanks “accidentally” bombed them out of existence a week after “911”, only to be resurrected later with proper shareholding and “responsible news coverage”.
    And the physics DO hold up, it is the fabulous fairytales of evaporating aeroplanes that fall over at every scrutiny.
    And there really were no planes.

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