Just as Smedley Butler said that war is a racket – public education and academia are a racket as well. In NYC, I went to Catholic parochial school where my parents had to pay out of pocket. Yes, we do not pay a separate school tax here as they do in the suburbs and more rural parts of the state (and country), but a good part of the city’s budget is going to public education. Many of the recipients of public education (grade school and high school) come from families who are not paying taxes at all. If parents were allowed to opt out of paying school tax as well as having the ability to easily start affordable private schools that do not indoctrinate, the whole public education behemoth would collapse. I would love to see Randi Weingarten crying her eyes out.

保罗博士​​提供了各种沟壑和悬崖的地形图。 窄是路。 与此同时，民族主义者希望使用部落疫苗作为部落的解毒剂。

Indoctrination is the enemy yes. But the other enemy is a curriculum that has been “refreshed” (Harvard’s euphemism) vs. a traditional, less-fun curriculum. I skimmed through some RonPaul homeschool lesson plans, and IMHO the ones I saw are rigorous. But it is ironic that “The Time Machine” has been included in the Western Lit. curriculum. The irony is that what would best serve modern-day parents is to place their children into a time machine, to travel back to the suburban public schools that I attended during the 50s and 60s. The teachers were not rocket scientists, but they did not need to be. I managed to get into a very elite New England university, and I found I had been better prepared than my rich classmates who had attended fancy private schools.

Put the US Congress in charge of the Washington DC School system. Have Congress charged with making the DC Schools the best in the world. Then you do not need a Dept of Education as all the other schools will want to be like that. If Congress cannot do that, then what business do they have trying to call the shots on any other schools?

政府不希望有能力进行批判性思考的人们，他们想要听话的工人，只需要足够聪明的人来运行机器，而又要愚蠢到足以被动地接受他们的情况的人。 你没有选择。 你有主人。 他们拥有你。 他们拥有一切。 他们拥有所有重要的土地。 他们拥有并控制公司。 他们早就购买了参议院，国会，州议会大厦，市政厅并为之付款，他们把法官放在了腰上，而且他们拥有所有大型媒体公司，因此他们几乎控制了所有新闻。和您所听到的信息。
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Close all public schools. The gov’t has no business educating children except for propaganda purposes. That’s how you get adults too stupid to see that voting is what’s keeping them forever begging gov’t to loosen their chains, but it never does. Sell off all the school property at auction and fire all the teachers thus also eliminating the teacher’s union and taxes purported to support education.

Now, let the free market flourish. The good teachers will find employment in the same buildings they worked at before, only now there’s new management at each facility. Those schools that get a passing grade by parents will survive, those that don’t will fail to allow the private sector to correct the situation.

No school board. No teachers union. No school taxes. Parents at the top of the hierarchy who control the schools via their tuition money.

Dr. Paul always is correct

BTW – the proper term is government school

God bless you, Ron Paul! (I sure don’t write that often.)

A year and a half from now we will be likely starting homeschooling. We went to a show to look at various curriculae, all conservative, from what I saw, but I will keep yours in mind. Already, my 10 y/o kid knows more about real money than I did at 35!

Put the US Congress in charge of the Washington DC School system. Have Congress charged with making the DC Schools the best in the world.

哈哈哈哈！

I’d rather have Pee Wee Herman than the US Congress running the school system we use.

Achmed – Unless you live in DC, I don’t understand your answer.

No, I don’t live in FS*. My point was I would rather have Pee Wee Herman running any school system we are involved in than the US Congress. Maybe I didn’t get your joke.

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What skills do children need in later life? Other than the 3 R’s, most student either forget most of what they’ve learned in K-12. Even if they remembered it, most of the learning is quite useless to them.

I’ve noticed over the years that almost all people with whom I’ve talked agree the shop/industrial arts and home economics classes in Junior high/ middle school were among the most enjoyable, useful, and memorable classes that they took in K-12. Why not replace history, social studies, social activism, art, and all the other useless classes, with home repair, managing money, investing, budgeting, cooking, cleaning/hygiene, buying/selling homes, mortgages/loans, nutrition, anger control, manners, choosing careers, and other similar classes?

It wasn’t a joke. The idea was to have the US Congress get the DC School system straightened out.
Once they do that all the other schools will want to be like that and we will not need Federal mandates shoved down the throat of the local schools. If they cannot get the DC Schools under control, then what business do they have telling anyone how to run their schools?

In both cases the Dept of Education is relegated to an advisory capacity.

History is important if you want to know how this country came in to being as well as how to deal with foreign elements. I would fold that into the broader category of Civics. Art is important if you want to stimulate creativity, there is more to it than just painting, sculpting, drawing. The other things you mention are important also, mainly finance.

The education establishment is accountable only to the State. No marketplace to provide competition for schools to improve.

We have moved from a system doing a mediocre job educating people, to a system which actively teaches a false view of the world.

But the clash between make-believe and reality can only end one way, no matter how much money we print…

If they cannot get the DC Schools under control, then what business do they have telling anyone how to run their schools?

What business do they have telling anyone how to run a LOT of things?! That doesn’t stop them, Jokem. You know that.

Yes, yes & yes. What to do about the college/university system that is every bit as f’d up as k-12? Until parents refuse to send/allow their kids to go on to the “extended indoctrination camps”, I don’t have much hope for education. An outright rejection of the fiat money (fed reserve) system would go a long way to forcing col/univ’s back to reality.

So the reform of education has to be 2 fold or really should follow naturally the reform of the monetary system. Dr Paul may agree.

I get it… Since it is hopeless then what is the point of presenting ideas? Is that your position?

My position is that Congress is collectively a bunch of retards that shouldn’t be organizing even a kid’s birthday party. Yes, getting them to run the FS schools is a joke. That’s why I thought you were joking, Jokem.

艾哈迈德——

My impression of the US Congress is not a great deal different than yours.
That still does not mean I had a poor idea.
In fact, such a thing would serve to underscore failure on the part of Congress and make it more difficult for them to obfuscate such.

I think this could be Dr Paul’s motto…
https://despair.com/collections/demotivators/products/government?variant=12108109873278

Interesting to know about Ron Paul Home Schooling Curriculum.

But how is it that teaching Austrian Economics and Libertarian Political Theory is not an ideological indoctrination?

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But how is it that teaching Austrian Economics and Libertarian Political Theory is not an ideological indoctrination?

Our public education system and universities ‘indoctrinate’ by teaching failed economic theories like Keynesianism and others.
But they NEVER, other than for a few tertiary institutions on the fringe, mention Austrian Economics.
Because the powers that be (PTB) don’t won’t people to know about a system that minimises the severity of recessions and nips them in the bud early on before they can become worse.
The PTB always try to engineer a system where crashes are recurrent so that they can suck you in with low interest rates and get you indebted to the eyeballs and then buy all hard assets at pennies on the dollar when you cannot service the repayments on your mortgage or margin loan when interest rates (that the Zio owned Fed controls) are raised higher.

Look at this clip where Dr Ron Paul predicted the 2008 subprime mortgage bust that led to the GFC years in advance utilising Austrian Economics:

Bottom Line: If you’re being force fed claptrap that is patently false (like about the Holohoax or Man-Made Global Warming), that is indoctrination.

If you’re being told the TRUTH, how economic systems really function, like in the Ron Paul Home School Curriculum, that is defined as ENLIGHTENMENT.

Though I agree with Vigilante’s take on the economics matter, let me answer the question more basically: Ron Paul’s curriculum is not REQUIRED… by ANYONE.

Parents who understand real money and real economics can use it. Others don’t have to. (That doesn’t mean his curriculum doesn’t have plenty of more good non-economic material though. I would imagine it does, and one can pick and choose.)

At the government schools, the curriculum is the curriculum. You either take your kids out, correct all the BS they are being indoctrinated with later at home, or not, or you get in a big battle with the school board. From Michelle Malkin (whose columns are hosted here too – thank you, Mr. Unz!) I have learned that these “local” school boards aren’t so awful local at all.

I hope this answers your concern, #159.

‘Ron Paul’s curriculum is not REQUIRED… by ANYONE.’

But it SHOULD be… (Maybe I am channeling Rush Limbaugh?)

‘I have learned that these “local” school boards aren’t so awful local at all.’

I am thinking there is too much Federal coercion (\$\$\$). Meaning teach what we say or lose funding.
If school boards teach what they want, OK, but that means maybe 60 students per class because the funding dries up. Or worse there is legal risk of ending in court.

Can someone here speak authoritatively about that?

If school boards teach what they want ..

The school (draft) board can mandate curriculum, but only within the confines of what the state allows.

I agree with RP that right-wing indoctrination is as bad as the left-wing kind, and that we need to get the government completely OUT of the education business. In that light, I also oppose public school education in subjects that can pass for being unbiased, e.g. math and science. (But we all know that schools especially suck at teaching rigorous subjects. Indeed, they’ve all but formally renounced the job.)

that means maybe 60 students per class because the funding dries up.

PE [sic] class is probably around that size. The “academic” courses will often have more than 30. It’s just ridiculous. (“Economy of scale” doesn’t work in the public sector. Whatever economy is just flushed down some other loo.) In our home school, the student to teacher ratio was always between 3:1 and (usually closer to) 1:3. Public schools can’t compete.

If we can’t a p_e, then school districts should cram 100,000 kids into a stadium. Pay one credentialed babysitter \$60/hr to stand at midfield and lead the class via the PA system. REBATE the “economy” to taxpayers.

Congress could and should simply vote to defund DC schools.

That “home rule” thing is ridiculous. Congress isn’t supposed to delegate its primary responsibility to govern DC, e.g. act as its skool board. (For that matter, Congress is not supposed to be delegating its lawmaking power to Executive branch bureaucracies, its war declaration powers to the president, etc.)