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上周的审判在波士顿联邦法院开始了当前的诉讼,在该诉讼中,一系列亚裔组织在其大学招生政策中指控哈佛大学存在种族歧视。 纽约时报,我们的国家记录报纸,几乎每天都会报道此案的进展情况,有时这些新闻甚至登上头版。

上周日,在诉讼开始之前, 一篇重要的文章 解释了争议的一般背景,我很高兴看到我自己的过去研究是引发诉讼的重要因素,而记者甚至还直接链接到我的26,000字2012封面故事 “美国精英统治的神话,” 这提供了反亚洲种族配额的有力的定量证据。 经济历史学家尼尔·弗格森(Niall Ferguson)长期以来是哈佛最著名的教授之一,但最近却来到斯坦福(Stanford),同样指出了我的研究的作用 在他的专栏中 等加工。为 伦敦星期日泰晤士报.

二十年前 我已经发表了 广泛讨论的文章 华尔街日报 关于精英招生中种族歧视的一些类似问题。 但是我最近的文章更长,更全面,并且肯定比之前或之后发布的任何文章引起了更多关注。 在它出现之后 美国保守党,其成千上万的浏览量打破了该出版物的所有记录,并在媒体上引起了相当大的关注。 专栏作家大卫·布鲁克斯(David Brooks) 很快将其排名 作为年度最佳美国杂志文章,这是一个判决 借调 由顶级编辑在 “经济学家”,并 本身很快组织起来 关于亚洲配额的专题讨论会,我热心参加。 “福布斯”, 大西洋, 华盛顿月刊, 商业内幕和其他出版物都讨论了我的惊人结果。

保守党引起了极大的兴趣,查尔斯·默里(Charles Murray) 突出我的发现国家评论 后来出版 一篇文章 在其中,我解释了我的发现对1978年法律有效性的重要意义。 巴克 美国最高法院的裁决。

学术界本身也做出了相当大的反应。 我很快收到了耶鲁大学政治联盟,耶鲁大学法学院和芝加哥大学法学院的演讲邀请,而弗格森教授很长时间地讨论了我的苦恼分析 新闻周刊/每日野兽 标题栏 “美国梦的终结。”

而且,我还出版了 相关的批评 这表明多年来我心爱的哈佛 母校 已将自己转变为全球最大的对冲基金之一,并设有一所免税目的的附属学校。 自由媒体记者克里斯·海耶斯(Chris Hayes Tweet)对此进行了广泛的讨论,媒体界人士对此大声疾呼,并慷慨地说他“非常嫉妒”自己没有亲自写过这篇文章。 他的许多同事都用同样的好评来推广这本书,而大学很快就提供了 公众反应较弱 这些严重的财务费用。

同时,对于我本人或其他外部观察者来说并不为人所知,哈佛本身对我所称的反亚洲偏见进行了内部调查。 显然,这所大学的初步成绩总体上证实了我的指责,这表明,如果仅根据客观学业成绩录取学生,就会有更多的亚洲人得到丰厚的回报。 但是哈佛大学的高级管理人员掩盖了这项研究,却没有采取任何行动,这些重要事实直到几年后才在当前的《亚洲配额》诉讼的发现过程中浮出水面。

 

在我的长篇文章中,只有第一部分谈到了精英大学录取中的反亚洲种族歧视问题,但它比其他任何方面都引起了更多的关注。

多年来,亚裔美国人社区普遍认为存在这种歧视性做法,这种观点得到了许多传闻证据的支持。 但是大学行政部门一直断然否认这些主张,而媒体对调查这些主张几乎没有兴趣。 但是,事实证明,我强有力的新定量证据很难忽略。

除其他事项外,我关注了全国功绩半决赛者(NMS)的全州公开名单,该名单构成了美国高中生中表现最好的一半。 碰巧的是,这部分美国学生的人数与常春藤盟校以及斯坦福大学,加州理工学院和麻省理工学院等类似精英学校的总学生人数相当接近。 NMS数据集以前几乎被研究人员完全忽略,但是我发现它提供了有用的经验信息宝库。

由于亚洲人的姓氏极具特色,因此我可以估算出亚洲人在这一顶级学术团体中的比例约为25%至30%,这一数字大大超过了他们在哈佛大学和其他精英学校的入学率。 这一结论得到了诸如数学奥林匹克和英特尔科学人才搜索等更具高度选择性的学术比赛中亚洲更大的统治地位的支持,尽管所涉及的人数少得多,这降低了这些分析的统计有效性。

但是我最戏剧性的发现是依靠对公共数据进行更简单的分析,而该分析以前从未被人注意到。 作为 我写的 在我 “纽约时报” 柱:

正如他们的1920年代前辈一直否认存在“犹太配额”一样,哈佛,耶鲁大学,普林斯顿大学和其他常春藤盟校的高级官员今天也强烈否认“亚洲配额”的存在。 但是,有相反的强有力的统计证据。

每年,美国大学都会将其种族入学数据提供给国家教育统计中心,该中心可在线提供此信息。 在司法部于1990年代初结束对哈佛大学歧视亚裔申请人的指控的调查之后,哈佛大学报告的亚裔美国人入学率开始逐渐下降,从20.6年的1993%下降到过去十年中的大约16.5% 。

这种下降似乎很小。 但是,这些年来,美国大学时代的亚洲人口激增,在1992年至2011年间大约增加了一倍,而非西班牙裔的白人人数则几乎保持不变。 因此,根据官方统计,在过去的二十年中,在哈佛大学就读的亚裔美国人比例下降了50%以上,而白人的比例变化不大。 实际上,亚裔美国人相对入学率的下降幅度大于哈佛1925年犹太配额的影响,后者使犹太新生人数从27.6%下降到15%。

在同一时期,大多数其他常春藤盟校的大学时代亚裔美国人入学率也有所下降,并且在过去几年中,这些不同大学的亚裔入学率已经收敛到非常相似的水平,并且随着时间的推移保持不变。 这引起了人们对常春藤盟国联合政策的限制,即将亚裔美国人的人数限制在一个特定的百分比之内。

这个统计发现用一个简单的图表进行了说明,表明在过去的二十年中,亚裔美国人的入学人数已逐渐在整个常春藤联盟中趋同,而与迅速增长的亚裔美国人的人数却大相径庭,只有严格的精英制加州理工学院继续跟踪后者。

很难想象会有更多明显的视觉证据表明在常春藤联盟中实施过亚洲配额制,该图表在亚裔组织和激进主义者中广为流传,他们于次年提起诉讼。 如果他们确实在联邦法院赢得了当前的案件,历史书最终可能会记录到,世界上最富有和最强大的大学被一张醒目的图表所压倒了。

 

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几十年来,基于种族的平等权利行动一直是美国政治中一个极具争议的话题,跨意识形态界存在巨大分歧,而我对这一问题的新分析引起了广泛的关注也就不足为奇了。 但是,在同一篇冗长的文章中更深入地埋藏着更具爆炸性的发现,显然太敏感了,甚至没有成为引起媒体广泛关注的主题。

并非没有道理,大多数记者都将触及犹太人敏感性的事情视为其职业的致命“第三轨”,而我的大部分文章都在这一领域提出了一些出乎意料的新见解。 这些吸引了众多杰出学者和媒体人士的广泛私人迷恋,但是这些人中几乎没有一个愿意公开披露引起他们高度关注的结果。

结果,除了那些实际上花时间读了我很长的文章而从未渗透到更广泛的公众的人们中,这些发现基本上未被注意到。 例如,知名名人知识分子约旦·彼得森(Jordan Peterson)教授,拥有大量的YouTube粉丝, 最近证明 他完全不了解这些重要事实。 因此,我现在借此机会总结和摘录我的英才主义分析中那些吸引了最大私人利益却受到最少公众关注的要素。

几年前,著名的伯克利社会学家杰罗姆·卡拉贝尔(Jerome Karabel)发表了 天选,他在常春藤盟校的犹太人入学史的权威历史,赢得了无数学术荣誉。 他的研究最终证明了曾经被拒绝的犹太配额制的存在,这些配额曾由在位的WASP精英用来维持对这些机构的控制,以抵抗其暴发户。 如我所写:

卡拉贝尔(Karabel)的大量文献(超过700页和3000个尾注)证实了一个引人注目的事实,即美国独特而复杂的主观录取制度实际上是作为秘密的种族部落战争的一种手段而产生的……

正如卡拉贝尔(Karabel)反复证明的那样,后来实行的录取政策的重大变化通常是由原始政治权力和竞争力量的平衡因素决定的,而不是由任何理想主义的考虑因素决定的。 例如,在第二次世界大战后,犹太组织及其盟友动员了政治和媒体资源,通过修改分配给各种学术和非学术因素的权重来迫使大学增加族裔入学人数,从而提高了犹太人的重要性。前者胜过后者。 随后的一两个十年后,这个确切的过程又朝着相反的方向重复了,因为1960年代初期,黑人激进主义者及其自由派政治盟友向大学施压,要求他们通过部分转移自己的种族少数群体的入学机会,使他们的少数族裔入学与美国人口更加接近最近将重点放在纯粹的学术考虑上。 确实,卡拉贝尔(Karabel)指出,少数族裔入学人数的突然和极端增加发生在1968-69年的耶鲁大学,主要是由于担心校园周围黑得很黑的纽黑文(New Haven)发生种族骚乱。

在这些招生之战中,许多杰出人物似乎都缺乏哲学上的一致性,自由主义者和保守主义者有时都偏爱学术功绩,有时则偏爱非学术因素,无论出于个人还是意识形态的原因,它们都会产生他们想要的特定种族学生组合。 不同的政治集团为控制特定大学展开长期斗争,随着这些团体在大学机构中获得或失去影响力,录取率突然发生了巨大变化:耶鲁大学在1965年更换了其录取人员,第二年犹太人数几乎翻了一番。

犹太学生组织Hillel的分支机构遍布大多数大学校园,数十年来,他们一直提供对当地犹太人入学百分比的估计,而Karabel和其他学者则以此为依据来绘制犹太人人数的起伏趋势。 我讨论了Karabel如何使用这些数据来庆祝犹太大学申请者最终击败前WASP压迫者而获得了优异的胜利。

确实,卡拉贝尔(Karabel)通过……指出极端讽刺意味的是,曾经完全统治了美国精英大学和“几乎所有美国人生活的主要机构”的WASP人口统计学小组在2000年之前变得“小而饱受困扰”实际上,他们的人数要少于曾经试图限制其身分的犹太人。 在整个常春藤联盟中,似乎都适用非常相似的结果,其分配比例通常甚至比Karabel强调的特定示例还要大。

 

卡拉贝尔(Karabel)展示了WASP对录取优秀犹太学生的抵抗力的崩溃,很快就彻底改变了这些机构的族裔构成,他的胜利叙事表明,这种转变提高了学术水平,并将学生的素质提升到了新的高度。 几十年来,我完全接受了这个简单的道德故事,在我读过的有关东海岸一流大学历史的几乎所有记录中,无论是自由派还是保守派,都暗中或明确地介绍了这个故事。

但是,当我开始使用与确定亚洲申请人严重歧视的相同技术和数据集进行定量研究时,我发现了完全相反性质的证据。 我很快意识到,我的许多信念仅仅是意识形态上的童话,有时甚至比苏联声称俄罗斯农民热切希望加入集体农场的说法更为准确。

尽管犹太人的名字不像亚洲人那样独特,但通常可以以合理的准确性确定它们,并将Weyl分析应用于最绝对特征的子集,例如Goldstein,Silverberg,Cohen和Kaplan,这使我们能够进行统计验证如此获得的结果。

因此,当我分析数十个全州范围内的NMS名单时,我很快发现,犹太人在美国表现最好的学生中所占的比例远远低于我的预期,大概不超过全国NMS总数的6%。 我之前为亚洲人检查过的顶级学术比赛的优胜者名单产生了相当相似的结果。

西班牙裔的名字很不相同,黑人的数量较少,学术上的成功率也较低,因此,这两个群体的NMS总数也不难确定。 一旦我们减去亚裔,犹太人,西班牙裔和黑人的总数,剩下的就是非西班牙裔白人外邦人的NMS总数。 结果绝对让人大开眼界:

鉴于涉及的统计样本数量巨大,最近的NMS半决赛选手名单的证据似乎是最确定的。 如前所述,这些学生的学术能力大约是最高的0.5%,应该是常春藤大学和美国其他最顶尖的学术大学入学的16,000名高中毕业生。 在加利福尼亚州,白人外邦人的名字比犹太人的名字多8比1; 在得克萨斯州,超过20比1; 在佛罗里达州和伊利诺伊州,大约是9比1。 即使在美国人口最多的犹太州纽约,每个犹太人中也有两名以上的高能力白人外籍学生。 根据美国人口的总体分布,似乎美国能力最强的学生中约有65-70%是非犹太人白人,是犹太人总数(6%以下)的十倍多。

不用说,这些比例与我们在哈佛大学及其精英同行的录取学生中实际发现的比例有很大的不同,如今,这些比例直接成为美国学者,法律,商业和金融领域制高点的直接漏斗。 根据报告的统计,犹太人在哈佛大学和其他大多数常春藤盟校中的非犹太白人大约匹配甚至超过非犹太白人,这似乎非常不相称。 确实,官方统计数据表明,哈佛大学的非犹太裔白人是美国人数最多的人口群体,尽管其学术考试成绩高得多,但其入学率却比黑人或西班牙裔美国人低得多。

在检查统计证据时,正确汇总数据至关重要。 考虑一下2007年至2011年哈佛大学亚洲学生的入学率相对于美国最近的NMS半决赛入围者(这是高能力大学年龄人口的合理替代)的估计比例,并将这一结果与相应的白人数字进行比较。 亚洲比率为63%,略高于白人比率61%,这两个数字均大大低于均等水平,这是由于黑人,西班牙裔,外国学生和未报告种族的学生等代表性不足的少数民族的大量存在。 因此,似乎没有证据表明种族歧视亚洲人,甚至排除了运动招募,遗留录取和地域多样性对种族中立的影响。

但是,如果我们把犹太学生分开,他们的比例为435%,而非犹太白人的残存率降至仅28%,甚至不到亚洲人的一半。 结果,相对于犹太人,亚洲人的代表性不足七分之一,而非犹太裔白人则是迄今为止比例最低的群体,尽管他们可能会从运动,传统或地理分布因素中受益。 常春藤盟的其余部分趋于遵循类似的模式,犹太人的整体比例为381%,亚洲人为62%,非犹太人的白人比例低至35%,所有这一切都与他们的高犹太人比例有关。能力适中的大学生。

就像这些惊人的不成比例的当前数字一样,更长的入学趋势也是如此。 自从我毕业于哈佛大学以来的三十年中,尽管外籍白人的相对规模或学业成绩没有可比的下降,但白人外邦人的人数下降了多达70%。 同时,犹太学生的比例实际上有所增加。 在此期间,亚洲,西班牙裔和外国学生的数量无疑迅速增加,黑人也有所增加。 但是,所有其他这些收益本来是要以基督教背景的白人为代价的,而不是以犹太人为代价的,这似乎是很奇怪的。

我的文章中的几幅图有效地说明了这些非凡的发现。

根据这些数据,与具有类似能力的白人外邦人相比,犹太学生在哈佛大学和常春藤盟校的入学可能性要高出大约1,000%。 鉴于法院经常将代表不足的比例定为20%或30%,这是绝对令人惊讶的结果 表面上 种族歧视的证据。

此外,我指出了这种差异可能与这些机构最高行政部门在犹太人中的压倒性优势有关的可能性:

忽略明显的事实是不合理的事实,即这种明显偏向于资格低得多的犹太申请者的偏见正与所涉大学的最高行政管理阶层中同样严重的种族偏见相吻合,这种情况再次与卡拉贝尔的说法完全相符。从1920年代开始。 确实,卡拉贝尔(Karabel)指出,到1993年,哈佛,耶鲁和普林斯顿都曾有犹太血统的总统,耶鲁,佩恩,康奈尔和可能还有哥伦比亚的现任总统以及1990年代的普林斯顿总统也是如此。以及耶鲁的新任总统,而哈佛大学的三位新任总统都是犹太血统或犹太配偶。

在大多数大学中,教务长是第二级官员,负责日常的学术运作。 尽管普林斯顿的现任总统不是犹太人,但可以追溯到1977年的普林斯顿最近的七名教务长都具有这样的血统,而其他几位伊维斯教区议员也不甘落后。 在常春藤盟其他地区的其他最高行政级别,以及整个美国领先的教育机构中,都发现了类似程度的大规模超额任职情况,这些都是选择我们未来的国家精英的机构。

自从我在2012年发表文章以来,哈佛大学和普林斯顿大学都选出了新任总统,每个人都是犹太人,而耶鲁的犹太人总统仍在任。

 

这种看似巨大的偏向犹太申请人对我们最精英大学的偏爱所表现出的确切机制尚不完全清楚,我非常怀疑这种粗略的形式是由最高管理者指示招生人员来接纳不合格的犹太申请人。 。 相反,我强烈建议,一个主要因素是美国绝大多数犹太媒体和犹太激进主义者团体的“负压力”,这可能会对犹太人数的任何显着下降做出严厉的回应:

同时,录取中任何“反犹太主义”的暗示都被认为是绝对的致命罪,而犹太人入学率的任何大幅度下降通常都可以通过触发头发的媒体来谴责。 例如,普林斯顿大学在1999年发现其犹太人的入学率已从500年代中期的700%下降到仅1980%的均等水平,并且远低于哈佛或耶鲁大学的可比数字。 这很快导致了四个头版故事 普林斯顿日报,在 纽约观察员,并且在 “纽约时报”高等教育纪事。 这些文章包括谴责普林斯顿悠久的反犹太主义历史遗产,并迅速导致官方道歉,随后犹太人人数立即反弹了30%。 在同一年中,整个常春藤联盟的非犹太白人入学人数下降了约50%,使这一数字降至远低于同等水平,但这引起了媒体的沉默,甚至偶尔有人对美国的“多元文化”进步表示祝贺。精英教育体系。

我怀疑这些单独压力的综合影响,而不是任何计划或故意的偏见,是我们上面研究过的惊人的入学统计的主要原因。 实际上,他们的学术上司和媒体监督人员的招生官员通常具有较弱的定量工作能力,他们通常具有较弱的定量技能,他们的双重目标是招收犹太人和招收非白人,任何重大失误都可能招致严厉的指控。 “反犹太主义”或“种族主义”。 但是通过不可避免的逻辑,最大化犹太人和非白人的数量意味着最小化非犹太人的白人的数量。

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我进一步指出,1999 年这场针对普林斯顿所谓的“反犹太主义”的媒体争议风暴发生在大学校长和教务长都是犹太人的时候,校园最近开设了一个价值 4.5 万美元的犹太人生活中心。

2002年,雅克·斯坦伯格(Jacques Steinberg), “纽约时报”,已发布 守门人,这是一位广受好评的畅销书,根据他在卫斯理大学的官员们所花的时间,对大学的录取过程进行了“内幕考察”,而他的书的2012年版指出,在此期间,过程几乎没有改变前十年。 他对招生人员背景的描述令我深感不安:

实际上,我们注意到的一些明显的录取偏见似乎可能与许多做出这些重大决定的大学员工的人文素质低下和学历薄弱有关。 如上所述,招生干事的薪水很低,不需要专业培训,几乎没有职业发展的机会; 因此,个人经常将其随随便便地填写在工作记录中。 作为“小常春藤”之一,卫斯理学院是美国最负盛名的文科学院之一,斯坦伯格对少数招生官员的职业道路的描述令人大开眼界:临时招生主管最近对食品邮票的接收者进行了筛选。并经营精神病院。 另一人曾担任动物控制官并管理过一家照相馆; 三分之一未成功找到联合航空乘务员的工作; 其他人是刚毕业的大学毕业生,他们的主要大学兴趣是体育或民族研究。 绝大多数人似乎只有很少的学术专业知识和很少的智力兴趣,这对他们合理评估其高质量申请人的能力提出了严峻的问题。

哈佛大学和达特茅斯大学入学前成员的著作强烈支持了同样的结论。

作为补充证据,我们可以考虑 真正加入常春藤联盟需要什么是2003年查克·休斯(Chuck Hughes)写的一本建议书,查克·休斯(Chuck Hughes)毕业于哈佛大学,曾在哈佛担任高级招生官五年。 尽管他坚决强调自己的大学参与大学运动,但他从未对个人学术兴趣一言不发,并且在关于精英大学录取的书接近尾声的时候,他似乎形容杜克大学,西北大学和赖斯大学是其中的一员。常春藤盟。

有关此确切问题的更明确说明,请参见 A入学,这是1997年由米歇尔·埃尔南德斯(Michele A. Hernandez)撰写的关于精英私立大学录取过程的非常坦率的描述,他曾担任达特茅斯大学招生助理主任四年。 埃尔南德斯在书的开头附近解释说,常春藤联盟的招生人员中有一半以上的人没有参加过学术上具有挑战性的大学,也可能没有智力能力,因此有时对SAT分数和其他基本的学术证书。 她还告诫学生,避免在论文中添加任何细微之处,以免他们的言语被招生办公室的读者误解。招生办公室的学位程度比任何严肃的学术学科都高。

在这种不幸的情况下,我们不应对斯坦伯格所叙述的特殊录取故事中令人震惊的方面感到惊讶。

考虑一下蒂芙尼·王(Tiffany Wang)的案例,她是在硅谷地区长大的中国移民学生,她的父亲在那里工作。 尽管英语不是她的第一语言,但她的SAT成绩比卫斯理平均水平高100多分,并且她被评为国家优异奖学金准决赛者,使她在高中生中排名前0.5%(而不是斯坦伯格错误地排名前2%)索赔)。 不过,招生官在学术上对她的评价是一般的,似乎对她在当地学校的亚裔美国人俱乐部中的种族行动印象深刻。 最终,他给她盖上“拒绝”的印章,但后来在斯坦伯格面前承认,如果他知道她为反对死刑而付出的巨大时间和精力,那可能是她被接纳的原因,而死刑是他的亲爱的政治原因。自己的心。 不知何故,我怀疑一个在课外活动中吹嘘领导死刑运动的领导者的学生在这个过程中的表现可能会更糟。 大概出于类似的原因,蒂芙尼(Tiffany)也遭到了她所有其他享有声誉的大学选择的拒绝,包括耶鲁大学(Yale),佩恩(Penn),杜克大学(Duke)和韦尔斯利(Wellesley),这一结果令她的移民父亲大为惊讶和失望。

还有一个案例是半巴西人 Julianna Bentes,有轻微的黑人血统,她来自一个中产阶级家庭,并获得部分奖学金就读于美国最精英的预科学校之一,其年学费现在高达 30,000 美元; 她的SAT分数比蒂芙尼的要高一些,而且她是一个优秀的舞者。 她的学术能力、舞蹈天赋和“多种族”背景使她成为美国顶尖大学招聘前景之一,获得了哈佛、耶鲁、斯坦福和她申请的所有其他精英大学的录取和慷慨的资助,包括芝加哥大学最负盛名的学术奖学金奖,以及在访问斯坦福大学期间与切尔西克林顿见面的个人机会,她在最终选择耶鲁大学之前做到了。

最后,有一个比卡·詹诺(Becca Jannol)的案例,她是比佛利山庄附近一个非常富裕的犹太家庭的女孩,她和朱利安娜(Julianna)一起上了精英预科学校,但她的父母每年要支付全部学费。 尽管她有一切可能的优势,包括考试准备课程和重新参加考试,但她的SAT成绩在240分制上仍低了约1600分,使她跌至卫斯理学范围的最低点,而她的申请论文则侧重于她所面临的哲学挑战她因非法使用毒品而被停职时遇到。 但是她是她的预科学校辅导员的最爱,后者是卫斯理招生官的一位大学老朋友,并且凭借自己的判断力,他给她盖上了“录取”字样。 然后,她糟糕的学术记录导致最初的决定被正式招生委员会其他成员的一致投票所推翻,但他拒绝放弃,并搬了天上人间为她争取到一席之地,甚至提出废除招生。个或多个已经选择的申请人为她创建一个位置。 最终,他让她从“拒绝”类别转到了等待列表状态,此后,他秘密地将她的文件夹移到了大型等待列表堆的最上方。

最终,“联系”胜利了,她获得了卫斯理大学的录取权,尽管她拒绝了卫斯理的提议,而她是通过更为类似的方式获得了来自更有声望的康奈尔大学的提议的。 但是在康奈尔大学,她发现自己“很痛苦”,讨厌上课,并说“看不到在那里的有用性”。 然而,事实证明她的学习能力不佳,因为安排她入学的那位行政人员还令她迅速进入了他亲自参加的一项特殊的“荣誉计划”,当年她只有40名学生中的3500名。 这使她免除了所有学术毕业要求,显然包括班级或测验,从而使她能够在从事所谓的“特殊项目”的同时度过了四个大学学年,大部分时间都在世界各地旅行。 毕业后,她最终在父亲成功的律师事务所工作,从而意识到了自己作为美国执政的常春藤盟精英成员的明显潜力,或者用她自己的话说,她是“最优秀的人”之一。

Jannol的帐户还包含一个特别有趣的元素。 个人论文已成为精英大学应用程序包的重要组成部分,如果它们能提供有困难和受害情况的有力证据,则它们被认为特别有效。 鉴于她极其富有和特权的背景,詹诺(Jannol)最初考虑专注于自己作为大屠杀幸存者的孙女的地位,但最终决定反对这一立场,因为她的许多同龄人也将遵循同样的策略,向斯坦伯格(Steinberg)解释说:写下他们的大屠杀祖母。”

在过去的几十年中,我们的新闻和娱乐产业使第二次世界大战期间的犹太人苦难加剧,成为现代时代最恐怖,最具有纪念意义的悲剧,而且精英招募中不公平的犹太人优势的绝大部分可能源于就像犹太精英家庭的孩子们将自己包裹在大屠杀幸存者身份的最终受害者中一样简单。

如果是这样的话,这种情况将特别具有讽刺意味,因为 大量证据 大屠杀实质上是欺诈性的,甚至几乎完全是欺诈性的,这仅仅是由犹太犹太好莱坞提倡的恶作剧,也许部分是为了掩盖不可避免的现实, 人均 全世界的犹太人无疑是XNUMX世纪最伟大的杀人凶手。

 

我的证据表明,在我们最精英的学术机构中,犹太学生的不合理代表人数过高,令我感到震惊。阅读我的分析的大多数著名学者和记者似乎也有类似的反应。 进一步的分析提出了造成这种广泛近视的一些关键原因,我在标题为“犹太人学术成就的奇怪崩溃”中对此进行了阐述。

从我自己的角度来看,我发现这些统计结果令人惊讶,甚至令人震惊。

我一直很清楚犹太人在精英学术机构中所占的比重很大。 但是今天在学业能力测验中取得高分的犹太学生比例却是惊人的,这完全出乎人们的意料,并且与我在大约XNUMX年前的高中和大学时代所形成的印象截然不同。 对其他可用统计数据的研究似乎支持了我的回忆,并为最近美国犹太人的学术表现急剧下降提供了证据。

美国数学奥林匹克竞赛始于1974年,所有得分最高的学生的名字都可以在互联网上轻松获得。 在1970年代,犹太人占总数的40%以上,在1980年代和1990年代,这一比例平均约为三分之一。 但是,自2000年以来的78年中,在2.5%或1938%的名字中,只有两个名字是犹太人。 普特南考试是美国大学生最困难,最负盛名的数学竞赛,自40年以来每年选出五到六名普特南优胜者。1950年之前的普特南优胜者中有1950%以上是犹太人,从1990年代起每十年一次到22年代,似乎有31%至2000%的获奖者来自同一种族。 但自10年以来,这一比例已降至XNUMX%以下,在过去的XNUMX年中没有一个可能的犹太人名字。

当我们检查“科学才能搜寻”的统计数据时,这种始终如一的种族下降趋势再次出现。自从40年以来,科学搜寻一直选择1942名学生作为美国最负盛名的高中科学奖的国家决赛入围者,从而提供了超过2800项顶级科学的庞大统计数据集学生们。 从1950年代到1980年代的每十年中,犹太学生一直是接受者的22%至23%,然后这一比例在17年代下降到1990%,在15年代下降到2000%,从7年以来仅下降到2010%。在过去三年中排名前1986位的学生中,似乎只有一个是犹太人。 同样,从1997年到5年,犹太人在物理奥林匹克优秀学生中占四分之一以上,但在过去十年中下降到仅XNUMX%,这一结果必定使理查德·费曼(Richard Feynman)陷入困境。

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结合起来,这些趋势都提供了有力的证据,表明过去十年或更长时间以来,犹太人的学术成就至少在高端领域急剧下降。

对于这种经验结果的几种可能的解释似乎是合理的。 尽管一个团队的天生潜力不可能突然下降,但是成就是能力和努力的函数,而当今绝大多数富裕的犹太学生在工作习惯或学习上的勤奋程度远不如父母或祖父母,他的生活更贴近移民经验带来的艰巨挑战。 为支持这一假设,在过去的二十年中,约有一半的犹太数学奥林匹克优胜者使用了非常独特的名字,这些名字往往会被标记为来自苏联或其他地方的新移民,而且这种名字也很常见。在同一时期犹太人的顶尖理科生中,尽管这一群体仅占当前美国犹太人的10%。 确实,从1980年代后期开始,大量高绩效移民犹太人突然涌入,似乎有可能部分掩盖了美国本土犹太人同时高学业成就的迅速下降,否则这将在十年后变得更加明显。大概早一点。

这种第三或第四代美国学生缺乏前辈的学习动力或强度的模式不足为奇,也不是犹太人独有的。 以日裔美国人为例,他们大致在同一时代到达美国。 美国的日本人一直是高绩效的团体,有着悠久的学术传统,而日本的PISA国际学术成绩如今已跻身世界之冠。 但是,当我们查看加利福尼亚州的NMS半决赛选手名单时,只有不到1%的名字是日本人,大致与他们在加利福尼亚州人口中的比例相符。 同时,中国人,韩国人和南亚人占加利福尼亚州的6%,但占得分最高的学生的50%,这一成绩要好XNUMX倍,主要的不同可能是他们绝大多数是新移民。 实际上,尽管持续不断的日本移民规模微不足道,但很大比例的日本顶尖学生拥有未经同化的日本名字,这往往表明他们很可能来自这一小群。

在他的1966书中 美国创意精英魏尔(Weyl)使用姓氏分析记录了美国清教徒下降后的成就也出现了类似的显着下降,这些曾经曾经在我们的智力领导中提供了不相称的比例,但是由于各种原因,这种情况从1900年左右开始迅速下降。 他还提到大约1800年后苏格兰对英国人的生活做出了杰出的贡献,尽管这两个历史相似的证据似乎非常有力,但因果关系还不十分清楚,尽管韦尔(Weyl)确实提供了一些可能的解释。

在某些方面,也许是过去犹太人的学术表现极其庞大,这是非常反常的,而最近对白色欧洲规范的部分趋同也就不足为奇了。 多年来,人们广泛流传着这样的说法,即犹太智商的平均数是一个全标准偏差(15点),高于白人平均水平100,但实际上这似乎没有什么根据。 世界上最重要的智商专家之一理查德·林恩(Richard Lynn)进行了详尽的文献综述, 找到了32个美国犹太人的智商样本,取自1920年至2008年。在14年至1920年间进行的前1937项研究中,犹太智商非常接近美国白人的平均水平,仅在随后的几十年中,平均智商就上升到了大约107%。 111-XNUMX。

在上一篇文章中 “种族,智商与财富” 我曾建议说,各族群的智商似乎比许多人所承认的要具有更大的可塑性,并且可能特别受城市化,教育和富裕等因素的影响。 考虑到犹太人一直是美国城市化程度最高的人口,并且在上述几十年中成为最富裕的人,因此这些因素可能在整个XNUMX世纪的大部分时间里导致了他们智商大幅提高的很大一部分。 但是随着现代电子技术最近缩小了美国农村和城市世界之间的社会环境和教育机会之间的差距,我们可能希望这种差异的一部分会逐渐消失。 美国犹太人无疑是一个高能力的人口,但与其他高能力的白人人口相比,他们的先天优势可能远远小于人们普遍认为的优势。

这项结论得到了一般社会调查(GSS)的支持,该社会数据是最近0.71年以来成千上万的美国调查反馈的在线数据集,其中包括Wordsum词汇测试,这是一个非常有用的IQ代理,与109相关。 换算成相应的智商得分,犹太人的单词和智商确实很高,为104。但是,英语,威尔士语,苏格兰语,瑞典语和天主教爱尔兰裔的美国人的平均智商也很高,为15或更高,并且他们的总人口犹太人的数量几乎是犹太人的1比XNUMX,这意味着即使我们排除了其余三分之二的美国白人,其中许多智商也很高,但他们将完全占据美国白人能力分布的上游。 此外,所有这些群体的城市化程度或富裕程度均远低于犹太人,这可能表明他们的分数在一定程度上仍然人为压低。 我们还应该记住,犹太人的智力表现往往偏颇,在语言子成分上格外强大,在数学上低得多,并且在视觉空间能力上完全中等。 因此,诸如Wordsum之类的完全面向语言的测试实际上会夸大犹太人的智商。

根据宗教信仰对美国白人人口进行分层得出类似的结论。 对《美国国家青年纵向调查》的数据进行的分析发现,在圣公会教堂长大的美国人的平均智商实际上超过了犹太人,而其他几个宗教类别的犹太人的智商却非常接近,从而导致了绝大多数美国高能力白人人口具有非犹太背景。

最后,就犹太人而言,强大的人口趋势可能加剧了这些与同化或环境相关的相对学业成绩下降。 对于上一两代人来说,成功或什至是普通家庭的典型犹太妇女结婚很晚,平均每个孩子只有一个孩子,而极少数正统的犹太妇女通常在十几岁时结婚,然后生下七个孩子。或八个孩子。 结果,这个极度虔诚的亚人群每10年就增加一倍,如今已轻松超过总数的XNUMX%,其中包括年轻犹太人的比例要高得多。 但是,超正统派犹太人通常在学业上表现平平,经常有极高的贫困率和对政府的依赖。 因此,这两种截然不同的犹太人再生产趋势的结合起到了稳定犹太年轻人总数的作用,同时可能使他们的平均学业成绩急剧下降。

 

尽管尚不清楚这些因素在犹太人学术衰落背后的相对重要性,但衰落本身似乎是一个明确的经验事实,对此事实的广泛不了解已经产生了重要的社会后果。

我对当今美国顶尖学生的随意心理印象是基于我对大约一个世纪以前的记忆,当时犹太学生(有时包括我自己)经常在标准化考试或著名的学术比赛中获得四分之一或更多的国家最高荣誉; 因此,哈佛大学和其他大多数常春藤盟校基于精英精英制,可能是25%的犹太人,这是完全合理的。 但是客观证据表明,在当今的美国,只有大约6%的顶尖学生是犹太人,这使得在精英大学中如此高的犹太人入学率完全荒唐可笑。 我强烈怀疑类似的时滞效应可能导致许多其他考虑了该主题的人产生明显的困惑。

例如,在整个著作中,卡拉贝尔(Karabel)似乎总是自动识别出具有学术才能的犹太人入学人数,而犹太人由于偏见或歧视而衰落,即使当他的讨论进入1990年代和2000年代时,这种假设仍然存在。 他出生于1950年,1972年毕业于哈佛,并返回那里获得博士学位。 在1977年,所以这可能确实是他成长初期的现实。 但是他似乎惊人地没有意识到自那时以来世界已经发生了变化,而且在过去的一两年中,精英阶层和犹太人的数量已经成为对立的力量:越是严格的精英制标准,犹太人所接受的就越少。

一系列图表可以很容易地看出犹太人的学术成就显着崩溃的证据:

 

具有重大政策影响的重要成果只有在广泛分发的情况下才会产生重大影响,在这一方面,我面临着巨大的障碍。

我的文章在 美国保守党,这是我发行的一本小型发行的政治舆论杂志,因此,我的发现需要突破更大,更主流的媒体渠道,才能吸引大量受众。 但是过去 交咨会 犹太激进主义者和组织经常在外交政策问题上激烈谴责,而我文章的内容比以前的任何材料都更具煽动性。 尽管严厉的攻击可能有助于在特定的意识形态领域内宣传我的信息,但它们肯定会阻止主流出版物受到关注,并且也足以使我的研究蒙上阴影,以至于将来没有任何受人尊敬的人愿意引用它。

我的第一个决定是将我的“亚洲配额”部分放在我的长篇文章的开头附近。 除了内在的重要性之外,这还将为感兴趣的读者提供一个相对安全的“钩子”,他们可以用来描述和促进我的分析,同时允许他们避免提及构成我大部分内容的任何“第三轨”材料。文本; 而这正是最终发生的事情。 但是,除非我还可以以某种方式诱使触发头发的激进主义者团体对我的文章保持沉默,而不是开始粗暴地对其进行妖魔化,否则这种策略显然将失败。 因此,我决定对犹太激进主义的这些中央机关发动一场我认为是斩首的第一次罢工,但这样做的方式相当倾斜。

杰罗姆·卡拉贝尔(Jerome Karabel)无疑是犹太人加入常春藤联盟的全球首屈一指的权威,尽管我的最终结论与他自己的结论截然不同,但他著名的作品一直是我使用的主要教科书。 在我看来,一旦犹太组织意识到我的文章中有争议的内容,他将成为他们接触的第一批个人,既寻求对我的分析的评估,也可能收到有效反驳的建议。

因此,我获得了Karabel的联系信息,并在完成发布前几周向他发送了我已完成的文章的预备副本,并解释说我认为他会觉得很有趣,尽管我的某些结论与他自己的结论有很大不同。 我的期望是,一旦他仔细阅读了我的详细分析,他将得出结论:我提出的案情太过强大,无法有效地反驳,当他们最终与他联系时,他会将这一裁决转交给激进组织,从而导致他们采纳为了避免引起人们对我的主张的关注,采取了“战略沉默”政策。 无论出于何种原因,这正是他们的反应方式,尽管最终吸引了相当多的关注,但没有著名的犹太激进主义者或团体对我的极富争议性的发现发表过公开回应。

这种完全没有有组织的攻击不仅为我不久开始获得的非常有利的主流报道开了绿灯,而且甚至为他们发现并阅读我的有组织的犹太社区本身的众多成员提供了相当友好的对待之门。没有任何先前的负面成见的文章。 大多数 这些讨论 直接着眼于最近犹太学术能力急剧下降以及由此导致的犹太人在精英大学中的任职人数过高的证据,耶西瓦大学的塔尔木德研究教授发表了一篇长达一千字的专栏,题为 “濒临灭绝的犹太天才” 和纽约大学伯曼犹太政策中心 特色 我在其网站上的文章。 甚至以色列媒体也注意到了这一点,专栏作家 以色列哈诺姆,谢尔顿·阿德尔森(Sheldon Adelson)发行量最高的报纸, 1500字的专栏 根据我的分析,尤其要关注我对犹太人代表人数过多的说法。

但是,尽管著名的犹太激进主义者严格禁止对我的发现进行任何讨论,但犹太社区从来没有缺乏极端狂热分子,其中一些人最终对我的工作发动了猛烈的攻击。 但是,这些都是边缘人物,因此他们的反应非常缓慢,缺乏足够的信誉或媒体支持。 因此,他们的抱怨影响不大,尤其是因为他们在很大程度上是自我反驳的。

我最厉害的学术评论家是一位名叫珍妮特·梅尔茨(Janet Mertz)的癌症研究者,她是一名狂热的女权主义者,其先前的公共努力主要集中在对哈佛前总统拉里·萨默斯(Larry Summers)的批评和反驳上,他提出了温和但不礼貌的建议,即男人在数学方面可能比女人要好一些。 ,她认为这是彻底的反感。 为此,她发表了10,000字的同行评审分析,分析了几十年来的国际数学奥林匹克参与者,这令人信服地表明,在几乎每个时间段和每个国家/地区,大约95%的最佳数学家是男性,而只有5%是女性。 但 她很奇怪地声称 这最终证明了男性和女性具有完全相等的数学才能,然后说服了 “科技日报” 和其他易受骗的媒体渠道 发布头条新闻故事 吹捧她对男性沙文主义神话的强有力的揭穿。

梅尔茨(Mertz)同样热衷于犹太人的认同主义,她投入了巨大的精力来详尽地确定美国最近所有数学奥林匹亚人的确切犹太血统。 结果,她猛烈地谴责我自己对犹太人数字的估计只是“猜测”,因为它们是基于对姓氏的更为随意的检查,并辅以韦尔(Weyl)分析。 我认为 我的回复 非常有效。

碰巧的是,她和她的合著者在前述的1988年文章中对2007-2008年美国数学奥林匹克的种族进行了详尽的研究,并且通过广泛的传记研究和保密的个人访谈相结合,确定了全犹太人的确切人数。和这120个人中的半犹太人,将结果连同更广泛的种族类别一起发布在上述表7中。

鉴于我是根据大概五分钟的粗略姓氏分析得出的,对这些学生的种族估计,而梅尔兹和她的同事们似乎只花了五个星期的时间来研究同一项任务,所以我很容易地承认,她的研究结果肯定会在很大程度上比我自己的更准确。 的确,如果我们将Mertz数据视为“黄金标准”,那么将其与我自己的数字进行比较将为评估我的直接检查技术的整体质量提供有用的手段,该技术是我整个研究的核心支柱。 这使我们能够决定我的方法是否确实只是她所声称的毫无价值的“笔试”。

她在同行评审杂志上的文章确定,从120年至1988年,美国的2007名数学奥林匹克选手由42名亚洲人,26名犹太人和52名非犹太人白人组成。 我粗略的姓氏估计为44个亚洲人,23个犹太人和53个非犹太人白人。 各个读者必须自己决定这些估计误差是否看起来如此之大,以至于完全使我的总体结论无效,但我个人会很满意,如果它们在我贯穿本文其余部分检查的成千上万个姓氏中都保持在这一范围内。

显然,这样的估计技术对于少数几个名称可能是完全不正确的,并且仅应在大量列表中使用。 例如,在我30,000字的文章的一句话中,我说自2年以来的78个奥运会冠军得主中,只有2000个似乎是犹太人,而梅尔兹(Mertz)多次对我提出这一要求进行攻击,现在指出我错过了希伯来语获奖者“ Oaz Nir”的名字。 她是对的,而且由于尼尔(Nir)在2000年和2001年获得了双冠王,所以我这个单一的姓氏错误几乎解释了我自己的1988-2007年奥运会结果与默兹和她的三个研究者进行的详尽研究得出的结果之间的全部差异。学术合著者。

我或其他人甚至意识到默兹对我的分析的严厉批评的唯一原因是 大量促销 她受到哥伦比亚大学统计学教授和著名博客作者安德鲁·盖尔曼(Andrew Gelman)的接待,他显然希望借此在不直接参与自己的情况下削弱我的发现,并因此而冒着自己的声誉的风险。 但是一旦我告诉他她以前关于性别问题的一些学术主张之后, 他似乎放弃了这个项目.

默兹的亲密盟友是一个名叫Nurit Baytch的年轻女子,我实际上是亲自遇到的。 当我在芝加哥大学法学院讲课时,我禁不住注意到一个矮个子的年轻女子坐在前排,瞪着我瞪着玻璃状的目光。 我简直不是穿衣服的马,但是她的穿着很奇怪,当她后来站起来“与我对峙”时,她的举止和说话风格也很奇怪。 总而言之,她的出现让我想起了1960年代后期的女性Weather Underground恐怖分子的照片,其中大多数人也来自犹太背景。

最终,Baytch女士写了一个庞大的文件,据称驳斥了我的功绩分析,由于它从未在任何地方发表过,因此她将其发布在互联网上, GoogleDocs文件,后来有无数的犹太活动家引用这封信对我的主张进行了彻底的揭穿。 但是,她所有成千上万个复杂单词的单词都无法绕开一个简单的事实,即美国高性能NMS学生中只有大约6%是犹太人,其余94%是外邦人。

她的另一条批评路线是谴责我使用希勒尔数字招募犹太人,她声称这完全是欺诈性的,尽管没有任何证据支持她的主张。 数十年来,这些Hillel数据一直被我们所有领先的媒体和学术研究人员毫无保留地接受,而我实际上已经谨慎地对待了它们,也许是第一个这样做的分析师。

同样,我们几乎所有关于犹太人入学的数据最终都是根据全国犹太校园组织Hillel的估计得出的,这些数字显然是近似的。 但是,Hillel数据是我们近几十年来拥有的最好数据, “纽约时报” 和其他知名媒体,同时也是Karabel屡获殊荣的奖学金的基础。 此外,只要数据中的任何潜在偏差都保持相对恒定,我们仍然可以正确地分析随时间的变化。

完全放弃Hillel在过去半个世纪中收集的成千上万的年度犹太人入学估计作为不可靠的方法,将完全消除我们几乎所了解的有关数千所美国大学中犹太人存在的历史规模和轨迹的所有信息,从而破坏了犹太人的社会学研究。很多学者。 但幸运的是,这些数字似乎不太可能像贝希(Baytch)随便声称的那样完全荒谬。

这些Hillel估计数已经在犹太社区中广泛流传了数十年,并重新发行在犹太杂志上,其主要目的是帮助指导知名度高的犹太家庭选择犹太人入学的大学校园,他们认为这是必要的范围。 对于大多数家庭来说,大学教育的费用是他们有史以来最大的投资之一,而且如果几十年来,成千上万的坚定的犹太家庭根据希勒尔大学的数字选择了他们的大学,结果发现这些数字与现实没有任何联系,肯定会有巨大而愤怒的反弹。 但是没有任何此类投诉的记录。

多年以来,哈佛·希勒尔经常声称校园中所有白人大学生中有一半或更多来自犹太人的背景,如果这个数字非常不准确,那么哈佛·希勒尔的某个人肯定会发现并纠正了这个错误,耶鲁大学,哥伦比亚大学,宾夕法尼亚大学和其他许多大学也是如此。 显然,用于将学生分类为犹太人的标准有些弹性,我们可以很容易地假设,该估计数通常包括半犹太人,无论他们以何种方式与该社区相识,并且由于种族激进主义而可能被夸大了。 但是,这些数字完全不可能被证明是虚假的。

这些基于普遍真实性的论点得到了定量证据的有力支持,具有讽刺意味的是,正是Baytch自己提供了这一论据。 在她制作冗长而未出版的文档的那段时间里,哈佛·希尔(Harvard Hillel)声称犹太本科生入学率为25%,并且在她的文字开始时,她声称该数字显然是虚假的,理由是 a 哈佛深红 调查 这表明9.5届毕业生中只有2017%是犹太人。 但是,她没有注意到调查提到 虔诚地 犹太人与犹太人在种族或祖先的意义上完全不同,尤其是因为犹太人是美国社会中最世俗的人口之一,并且有42%的哈佛学生将他们的宗教信仰描述为无神论者,不可知论者或“其他”。 。” 确实, 一项全球调查 发现只有38%的(种族)犹太人追随犹太人 宗教。 所以如果 Crimson软件 调查是正确的,哈佛犹太人的宗教信仰很典型,这意味着哈佛新生的9.5%/ 0.38 = 25%(!!!)是犹太裔, 究竟 哈佛·希勒尔声称的数字。 狂热的思想家,例如贝希(Baytch),有时倾向于在不知道自己所做的事情的情况下为比赛结束的自我进球得分。

 

总的来说,犹太人的分类具有很纯净的性质,基于宗教,种族和全部或部分血统的定义有些重叠,因此由于各种原因,它可以大大扩展或缩小。 我怀疑Baytch对这件事的困惑完全是真诚的,这与她在现实生活中表现出的强迫症倾向有关。 但是其他人可能会基于更加务实的考虑而采用这些变化的定义。

众所周知,几十年来,即使在犹太人仅占全国人口3%的时候,美国共产党,尤其是其最高领导人还是绝大多数是犹太人。 但是犹太社区领袖对此情况感到不满意,有时他们断然否认现实,坚持认为实际上没有犹太共产主义者-当共产主义者对所有宗教信仰怀有敌意时,怎么可能呢?

同样,我的发现表明犹太人被哈佛和其他精英大学录取的比例显然比具有类似学术表现的白人外邦人高出约1,000%,这肯定在犹太激进组织的领导下敲响了警钟,他们想知道如何最好地管理或隐藏此潜在危险信息。 随着备受瞩目的亚洲歧视诉讼在法庭上蔓延,而我自己在2016年试图选拔哈佛监督员委员会候选人的尝试也没有成功,因此,日益受到公众关注的可能性肯定很大。

拜特奇在拥有犹太血统和实行犹太宗教之间明显的混淆在这些圈子中是众所周知的,并且提供了明显的解决方案。 如果犹太人的人数突然减少到只包括那些声称遵循犹太宗教习俗的学生,那么将大大减少犹太人在精英校园中过分夸大的代表人数。 同时,大量不合格的犹太血统申请人但没有宗教信仰可以继续写不成文的关于“大屠杀祖母”的文章,而美国98%的外邦人则是不明智的选择。

无论出于何种原因,希勒尔(Hillel)似乎最近都采用了这种做法,大大减少了其对哈佛大学和其他精英大学犹太人入学率的公开估计,从而通过简单的重新定义行为就消除了种族偏见的明显例子。 例如,Hillel网站 现在声称 哈佛大学本科生中只有11%是犹太人,与之前的25%相比有了很大的减少,而且总数可疑地接近 Crimson软件 几年前进行的一项调查,仅根据犹太人的宗教信仰对其进行计数。 耶鲁大学,普林斯顿大学和其他大多数精英大学的希勒尔人都经历了同样突然而巨大的下滑。

关于这一新的犹太人入学定义的非常有力的线索来自加州理工学院,这是一所精英科学与工程学院,它极不可能吸引自称具有宗教信仰的犹太人。 根据Hillel网站, 犹太人入学率为0%声称校园里绝对没有犹太人。 尽管如此,该网站还描述了加州理工学院充满活力的犹太人生活,加州理工学院的犹太人参与了各种当地活动和项目。 这种荒谬的悖论显然是由于宗教信仰的犹太人和祖先的犹太人之间的区别所致。

正如1999年媒体席卷普林斯顿的大火所证明的那样,过去60年间,即使犹太人入学人数出现轻微和平缓的下降,也会引起犹太人组织的大规模争议和愤怒的谴责。 对于最近将近XNUMX%的哈佛犹太人突然失踪绝对没有任何有组织的回应,这肯定表明,仅发生了定义上的改变而已。

 

许多年前,我还是一个年轻而幼稚的本科生,我通常会在我们的哈佛餐厅与我的同学们共进晚餐,讨论各种政治和政策问题。

平权行动是我们对话的常规话题,我偶尔会注意到美国在这方面有多奇怪。 没有其他例子可以想到,一个种族群体已经建立了针对其本国成员的合法种族歧视制度,而旨在排斥或不利于敌对种族群体的类似制度在世界历史上却太普遍了。

随着几十年的过去,我逐渐注意到,在我们最精英的大学中,非白人和外国学生的入学人数大量持续增加,导致美国白人外邦人的入学人数完全崩溃,但奇怪的是,没有类似的减少犹太数字。 众所周知,犹太激进分子一直是在大学录取中建立平等权利行动和相关政策的主要力量,我开始怀疑他们的真正动机是有意识的还是无意识的。

向既往被排斥的群体提供教育机会的目标是否是既定目标? 还是仅仅是以此为借口来推行一项消除大多数白人外邦人,他们的主要种族竞争对手的政策的借口? 由于犹太人口仅占2%,因此他们自己可以填补多少名精英大学职位有一个明显的限制,但是如果也引入了足够多的其他群体,那么尽管他们构成了全国人口的大部分。

亚洲人代表了一个有趣的测试案例。 随着人数的迅速增加,白人外邦人因此而被赶出市场,整个学术界都在庆祝这一过程。 但是到了1980年代后期,亚洲的人数已经增加到了不可避免的程度,也不可避免地开始影响犹太人的入学率,而且未来的增加肯定会使情况恶化。 到那时,这一进程突然停止,亚洲人数急剧减少,此后被永久封顶。 当我发表1998年论文时,这种情况的含义已经浮现在我脑海 “华尔街日报”描述其中一些引人注目的种族事实.

当前在波士顿进行的备受瞩目的审判被媒体广泛地描述为亚裔美国人与黑人和西班牙裔群体之间的冲突,后者在当前的主观和不透明的录取制度下,其教育利益受到损害;黑人和西班牙裔群体的人数在某些情况下可能会急剧减少。建议的更改。 白人在很大程度上被描绘成旁观者,哈佛大学指出,即使在招生政策发生重大变化的情况下,白人的人数也几乎不会改变。 但是“白人”一词既涵盖犹太人也包括外邦人,因此可能隐藏得比其所揭示的更多。

在正在进行的法律之战中,所有杰出参与者和观察家当然都知道我2012年功绩主义分析的含义,但是 ADL的强大威力 其媒体盟友确保当前局势的某些重要方面永远不会受到广泛的公众讨论。 亚洲倡导者理所当然地谴责了当前精英学术招生制度的不公平性,但对于哪个美国集团实际上控制着所涉及的机构,却保持绝对沉默。

在围绕波士顿哈佛审判的巨大媒体争议中,各方都在竭尽全力避免注意到房间里有2%的大象。 这个事实提供了那头大象在当今美国社会中的巨大规模和力量的最好证明。

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  1. Big Bill 说:

    谢谢,罗恩。 我很感激。

    • 同意: HammerJack
    • 回复: @FKA Max
  2. Anon[425]• 免责声明 说:

    Maybe the best solution is to guarantee fixed percentages of admission for blacks(of slave ancestry), American Indians, and ‘Hispanics'(of non-Conquistador ancestry) regardless of the outcome of the lawsuit.

    So, for example, blacks are assured 13%, American Indians 8%, and Meso-Americans 1o%.

    For the remaining 69%, it has to be pure meritocracy.

    That way, we don’t have to worry about blacks and browns being hurt by the outcome of the lawsuit. As for whites, Jews, and Asians, they duke it out on basis of academic meritocracy and nothing else.

  3. CalDre 说:

    Haven’t quite finished yet, but excellent, brave and long overdue.

    I am surely taking a big leap out on the limb when I predict that this study will gain exactly zero traction in the MSM.

  4. Anonymous [AKA "Lost in Harvard"] 说:

    Excellent analysis, especially the decision to dig into the very top end of academic results at the Intel Talent Search, Olympiad, etc. level. The selection for those competitions remains extremely rigorous and merit-focused, and is a great unbiased for top talents in various sectors.

    I’ve found that the most damning chart you’ve ever made – Asian enrollment % vs. Asians age 18-21, https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AsianEnrollmentTrends.jpg, was always significantly denounced by observers as “statistical nonsense” because the right axis used total # of Asians 18-21, rather than Asian % of total population 18-21. Steelmanning this argument better would lead to much stronger results when showing that chart.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  5. niteranger 说:

    罗恩:

    You were right then and you are right now. However, there is some good data all over the net that show that upwards of over 75% of all upper tier administrators at Ivy League schools are Jewish. I can’t believe this doesn’t have a bias for Jewish students. I’m wondering if the law suit by the Asian students will bring this out. How can they claim that with a population of around 3 percent of the USA that they—the Jews haven’t rigged the Ivy League for their own gain.

    As far as diversity goes it’s nothing more than another Jewish Scam. At Harvard and other Ivy League schools I understand Jews have separate dining areas. The truth is that Jews stay with Jews, blacks stay with blacks, Asians hang with Asians and so forth. So much for diversity with each group having organizations at the colleges that represent them except for the few true white kids there because that would be Hitleresque. Most of these students do not interact with other students especially the Asians and that’s another strike against them.

    I have little faith in the Justice system. Here’s a blowjob article by two economists. At least one of them went to Harvard. You must keep shining the apple…………http://www2.philly.com/philly/opinion/commentary/harvard-admission-asian-american-students-federal-court-boston-affirmative-action-20181018.html These folks filed an amicus brief in support of Harvard challenging the statistics of the Asian group. The article is totally bullshit. If I were the Asian group I would hire Dr. Nassim Taleb to do the analysis. I would love to see these economists go up against him in a court of law.

    • 回复: @the grand wazoo
    , @Alden
  6. utu 说:

    两点:

    (1) I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article. I am sure of it! You do not have enough divisions to conduct the war on all fronts. More importantly there are soldiers who will fight for you on this particular front but will desert or even turn against you if you try to deploy them on the others fronts.

    (2) I think, Jacques Steinberg’s take about the unqualified recruitment officers is a red herring. They are qualified enough to produce the desired outcome. One had to dig deeper to find the real mechanism behind the 1000% Jewish overrepresentation. I would no look for answers on this from Jordan Peterson.

  7. Da Wei 说:

    Mr. Unz, you say:

    “… given the considerable evidence that the Holocaust is substantially fraudulent, or even almost entirely so, merely a hoax promoted by heavily Jewish Hollywood, perhaps partially intended to conceal the inescapable reality that in per capita terms Jews worldwide were surely the greatest mass-murderers of the twentieth century.”

    I say: On behalf of all of us past and present recipients of White Boy Scholarships (e.g. a job in a liquor store), I thank you for your intelligent resourcefulness and courage in exposing this insidious alternative reality we have lived with. It’s inspiring to hear such a straight talker as yourself.

    • 同意: Carroll Price
    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Miville
  8. Roberto 说:

    The high tech establishment of “Silicon Valley ” like business in the US, with their need to compete on an international basis, cannot consider the absurd reference of “Ivy league” as genuine consideration, while Asian math ability is an indispensable at every level.

    • 回复: @Cassandra
  9. Bruno 说:

    « I suspect that the combined effect of these separate pressures, rather than any planned or intentional bias, is the primary cause of the striking enrollment statistics that we have examined above. In effect, somewhat dim and over-worked admissions officers, generally possessing weak quantitative skills, have been tasked by their academic superiors and media monitors with the twin ideological goals of enrolling Jews and enrolling non-whites, with any major failures risking harsh charges of either “anti-Semitism” or “racism.” But by inescapable logic maximizing the number of Jews and non-whites implies minimizing the number of non-Jewish whites. »

    —-> that is where it’s possible to factor in Kevin MacDonald hypothesis. Jewish to gain protection from white ethnic interest contrasted to their financial success have a good strategy of promoting diversity (black and Latinos) hiding their own bigger promotion. The squashing of whites then is an intended effect as much as the promotion of computed and not a collateral damage.

    The experience of Jewish with Assyrian, babylone, Egypt, Persian, Macedonian, Greek, Roman, Europe in the Middle Ages and in Islam, Poland-Lithuania and Ottoman Empire seems to indicate that there is a pattern.

  10. anon[455]• 免责声明 说:

    As Karabel repeatedly demonstrates, the major changes in admissions policy which later followed were usually determined by factors of raw political power and the balance of contending forces rather than any idealistic considerations
    enormous bias in favor of Jewish applicants to our most elite colleges manifests itself is not entirely clear

    This excellent presentation of information suggest to me that our nation needs to homogenize its lifetime opportunities. Learning is a biological process, education is a bureaucracy. Propaganda differentiated academics is not the same as proof of performance on national examinations. Differentiating and handicapping opportunity by controlling access to prestigious universities is not good for the country.

    Qualify for credentials by examination independent of educational attainment. Examinations are already the requirement for licenses to practice engineering, construction, law, accounting etc. but once again access is controlled because a subject matter related degree is required to take the examinations.

    Thank you for this wonderful paper.

  11. Anonymous [AKA "Josh Barnes"] 说:

    What percentage of the Asian students (especially the Chinese ones) are from abroad? By “from abroad,” I mean students who (1) are not citizens of the US, (2) are recent immigrants who have become US citizens, or (3) have lived more or less their entire lives abroad but through hook or crook have managed to get ahold of US passports in advance (often at a very young age; we all know how it’s done) and then be imported into the US just in time for their American university experience (after which they often return home)? There are around 1.4 billion people in China alone, and they come from a mindless, brutally test-centric culture, so it should not be surprising that out of such a large pool of people obsessively doing test drills and college-prep courses throughout their youth because they are being forced to do so by parents and schools, each year a sample of academically high-scoring Asian students that greatly outnumbers the US-derived academically high-scoring students can be derived. This, however, doesn’t say as much about Asian intelligence as many seem to assume. Have any of you actually had experience dealing with students, or just people from the general population, in China? They’re semi-autistic retards who can’t put one foot in front of the other without someone telling them how to do it. We are importing many smart people from China (a tiny fraction of ability out of a huge ocean of shit), but we are also importing a lot of idiots who are just well-trained test-takers, who will not contribute intellectually to research or the society, and who have no loyalty to the US whatsoever — all at the expense of genuinely intelligent students who are actually capable of doing things with their lives other than choosing A, B, C, or D. We are hurting ourselves and strengthening China (a place that is devoid of empathy, common sense, and basic decency) at the same time just so that universities can rake in more money. It’s madness!

  12. One pic is worth 10,000 words and that first graph says a lot. The group that raises the most hell about discrimination–usually accusing us white guys–are the ones who practice wholesale discrimination at the elite universities, using their ethnic networking to ensure that Jews get admitted while probably more deserving and smarter Asians get kicked to the curb.

    I’m sure the ADL will mount a vigorous campaign against this defamation, just as soon as the Sun starts rising in the West.

    • 回复: @Demi
  13. OMG 说:

    亲爱的罗恩,

    Great piece as always.

    Under ‘ The Myth of American Meritocracy’ I posted the following comment:

    “@Ron,

    The bias does not (yet) appear so blatant in the UK or in Australia. But it truly is rife in the USA.

    My colleague (MD, PhD) attended Harvard as a post-doc. All of his ’superiors’ were Jewish. He did well and was quite friendly with the Department head, who is Jewish. His Unit head (also Jewish) was hopeless and known to be so, so my friend, essentially, carried the Unit for a time.

    The Department head, despite their friendship, advised my friend not to apply for tenure since he would never achieve a Chair as he was not Jewish.

    When I repeated this fact to a colleague (Jewish) I was blackballed as an anti-Semite, even in Australia.”

    This comment makes the very important point that it is not just (or even) undergraduate entry that is under attack but, more importantly, senior tenured positions. Such an approach guarantees continuity.

    Until this tribal loyalty is exposed, it will continue and increase.

    Thank you for your attempts to break this takeover and corruption.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  14. I’m unable to judge the USA situation.
    But the figures in
    Ismar Schorsch,“犹太人对德国反犹太主义的反应,1870年-1914年”,纽约,1972年
    为自己说话。
    Heavy jewish overrepresentation in intellectual jobs, some three % compared here and there to fifty.
    At the same time, the book confirms the old saying ‘nobody can defend his own case’.

  15. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:

    Another amazing article. Bravo!

    But the term “white” encompasses both Jews and Gentiles, and thus may conceal more than it reveals.

    The implications of my 2012 Meritocracy analysis are certainly well-known to all of the prominent participants and observers in the ongoing legal battle, but the fearsome power of the ADL and its media allies ensures that certain important aspects of the current situation are never subjected to widespread public discussion. Asian advocates rightly denounce the unfairness of the current elite academic admissions system, but remain mute about which American group actually controls the institutions involved.

    在围绕波士顿哈佛审判的巨大媒体争议中,各方都在竭尽全力避免注意到房间里有2%的大象。 这个事实提供了那头大象在当今美国社会中的巨大规模和力量的最好证明。

    Thankfully, the goyim are finally waking up to the fact that “white privilege” is the Tribe’s smokescreen for 犹太特权 which is much more hostile, sociopathic and dangerous than we could have imagined.

    • 同意: mark green, St-Germain
  16. Heros 说:

    How Jews Cheated on the SAT and Infiltrated the Ivy League Schools

    “(((Kaplan))) came up with a simple but ingenious way to subvert the system. After each class graduated from Kaplan’s school and took the test, he would invite them back to celebrate with hot dogs and root beer; admission to the party was gained by having each student tell Kaplan one question he remembered from taking the test. The net result of Kaplan’s parties was a list of the questions that his students would face when taking the SATs.

    If Kaplan tutored five classes of fifty students in one year, at the end of that year he had 250 questions By the time Kaplan sold his test-prep business to the Washington Post company in the ‘70s, for \$50 million he had over 30 years experience in gathering questions, which meant he could tell his students with increasing accuracy the answers to those questions as well.

    Jewish scores on the SATs rose accordingly, as did Jewish admission to the prestigious colleges that had established quotas to keep them out in the early 20th century.”

    Was There Cheating on the August 2018 SAT?

    “Shortly after the conclusion of the August 2018 SAT, rumors started to circulate that there was a problem with the test that gave some students an unfair advantage.

    The basic gist of the complaint is that the test given on August 25 in the United States was actually the same exact exam that had been given internationally in October 2017.
    ...
    For its part, College Board hasn’t come out and acknowledged whether or not the tests were duplicates, but did state that it is taking “quality control steps” to make sure cheating hasn’t occurred.”

    Exam Cheating on Long Island Hardly a Secret

    “The suspected test takers came from prominent, respected families, some of them in financial distress — among the five facing felony charges were the sons of a well-known lawyer, the president of the local library board and a wealthy philanthropic family.

    The youths who are accused of paying them as much as \$3,600 to take SAT and ACT tests were largely undistinguished students willing to cut corners to strengthen their modest résumés.
    ...
    People briefed on the investigation said that (((Samuel Eshaghoff))), a 2010 Great Neck North graduate, scored in the 2,100 range (out of 2,400) on his own SATs; he is accused of taking tests for at least 15 people over three years, and the people briefed on the inquiry said he obtained scores for them between 2,170 and 2,220 on the SAT and as high as 33 out of 36 on the ACT.”

    Just as jews daily ignore laws about crimes against humanity in Occupied Palestine, so do jews routinely cheat in all aspects of academics. All aspects, whether it be through using the twin JP’s (jewish power and jewish privilege) to force schools to accept their pet jewish students, to cheating on admissions tests, to famous jews like Einstein who plagarized gentile research and accomplishments after they get out.

    • 回复: @j2
    , @Alden
    , @Kratoklastes
  17. m___ 说:

    A lesson, retracing and commenting “under the hood” of a process. A great achievement. Expensive and worth it!

  18. Tyrion 2 说:

    Your thumb is on the scale at every opportunity.

    You want high numbers so you use partial Jewish ancestry or ties of matrimony as with Provosts.

    You want low nunbers, you perform an analysis designed to get those fitting only the strictest definition of Jews, as you do with NUMS.

    When this isn’t enough you simply made an ad hoc and utterly absurd set of jumps. As when you take the number of Jews found by a poll looking at religion and triple it.

    You use sources without methodology when it suits you but refuse to use the same source when it doesn’t. As with Hillel, when you allege some sort of tremendous conspiracy against you as an individual!

    Your work was utterly discredited when the same Weyl analysis was applied to Harvard undergrads by the lady Nurit who you so ungallantly describe. I suppose her crime was to expose your work for being as sloppy as it is.

    • 巨魔: Jus' Sayin'...
    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @utu
    , @Anonymous
  19. Heros 说:

    Another aspect of this elite university admissions fraud is the cost of all these womyn studies, equality, diversity and other departments. All these useless departments not only provide payrolls for hundreds of JP vetted shabboz and other tamudists in each department in each school, they are one of the prime reasons an elite university degrees have become so expensive.

    Like the hidden kosher taxes on most foods that we eat, this kosher education tax is highly planned and very deliberate. The power gained through this level of patronage is immense and it further allows JP to achieve strong leverage and often complete control in all levels of University life.

    But the most insidious is the deliberate inflation in school costs that serves several purposes:

    – It makes that elite degree only affordable to the ultra-rich, the effective majority of whom are jewish.
    – It allows the exertion of JP to all others through scholarships which are used to exclude non-kosher candidates.
    – It allows “charitable” tax free jewish organizations to extract a jew tax on rich jews that is free of all US taxes. These scholarships will again disproportionately made available to “oppressed” jews. These funds are collected and used many different ways, some of which are antifa riots and caravans of soros puppets.
    – It causes goy families to expend their wealth at a higher rate, thereby making them more dependent on JP for handouts.
    – Often goy families borrow (((Fed))) created money from jewish banks against their houses, land or other family wealth to finance their child’s ridiculously expensive degree. Aside from the usual issues of usury, any kind of financial shock, instigated by jews or not, leads automatically to many of the most valuable of these goy owned assets falling into the hands of jewish money lenders at fire sale prices.
    – Millenial students themselves have to take out government guaranteed loans from jewish banks in order to get a degree from a bloated leftist elite university.
    – The reality of these debts, incurred through jewish banks, but guaranteed by uncle cheese, is that the students and graduates will have an inherent slant against capitalism and for big government. A a slant created and exploited by cultural marxists.
    – The biggest (((reward))) for the tribe at the end of this process is highly indoctrinated communist debt slaves, dependent on government for their subsidy, who will automatically prefer any leftist political candidate promising debt relief on these loans.

  20. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @Tyrion 2

    Lol! What a silly creature you are, Tyrone the second.

  21. SafeNow 说:

    The aptitude metrics are galling, but most galling for me is that a “personality”-based disadvantage is applied to two kinds of students who tend to be — get ready for it — decent. A personality-based bonus is given to two groups who are — and Hillary would approve here — far less civil. Jimmy Stewart says in Harvey that, to be a success in life, you have to be bright, or pleasant. It appears that, to get into Harvard, you must be bright, or UNpleasant. I think part of this personality bonus might derive from what psychologists call identification with the aggressor. In any event, all appears to be lost, because, as one teacher gloated, “we have your children.”

    • 回复: @anon
  22. alexander 说:

    Good stuff, Mr. Unz.

    I wish you would take some time to do an in depth study on the growth and causes of our
    titanic national debt.

    With a particular emphasis on the contrast between two different epochs. 1776-2000 and 2001-2018.

    I cite these two epochs because 1)our government was operating at a fiscal surplus in 2000 ..and 2) overspending, since 2001, has been so extraordinarily high (800 billion per year)it may represent the greatest threat to US national security our nation has ever faced.

    It is also worthy to note that our governments astronomic “overspending”( since 2000), is the most taboo subject of both the mainstream media and the mainstream press.

    We have overspent \$16,000,000,000,000.00 in a mere 18 years, and not one peep from the media.

    为什么不 ?

    If you consider , too, that our entire national debt has more than quadrupled in just 17 years,(just to imagine it would make Ben Franklins’ heart flutter) while our GDP has merely doubled in the same time period, it may be well worth your time and effort to explore the reasons why.

    It also may be worth your time to explore the implications for our future.

    People do have different economic theories, but I have always been partial to the Debt/ GDP ratio as
    a reasonable indicator of the fiscal health of a nation.

    For example, had the quadrupling of US debt (over the last 17 years) been accompanied by a quadrupling of our overall GDP(during the same time period), one could argue that our enormous federal overspending produced phenomenal economic growth and was, therefore , justified.

    This, however, did not happen.

    Our debt to GDP ratio is currently 21.6 T debt/ 20.5 T GDP…..not 21.6 T debt/ 40 T GDP

    The question is what did happen ……and, perhaps more importantly ,where did all the money go ?

  23. j2 说:
    @Heros

    有趣的评论。

    The data from the article allows estimating the American Jewish IQ. If there are 5.2 million Jews and 197 million non-Hispanic Whites and 6% of the winners in a contest selecting 0.5% are Jews, 65-70% non-Jewish non-Hispanic Whites, then 5.2/197=0.0264 of the white population are Jews while 6/73.5=0.08163 over the 0.5% limit Whites are Jews. If for non-Jewish Whites the limit is 0.5%, then for Jews it is 1.546%. For non-Jewish Whites the limit is 3.3 SD=149.5 IQ points, while for Jews it is 2.95 SD=144.25 IQ points. The average IQ of American Jews is thus 105.25 IQ points. Though it is the same as for East-Asians, it is also accountable by environmental factors, but also by factors you mention in your comment. If the Jewish population should include partial-Jews, the average goes to 102, which is my best estimate.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  24. Ron Unz 说:
    @Anonymous

    I’ve found that the most damning chart you’ve ever made – Asian enrollment % vs. Asians age 18-21, https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AsianEnrollmentTrends.jpg, was always significantly denounced by observers as “statistical nonsense” because the right axis used total # of Asians 18-21, rather than Asian % of total population 18-21. Steelmanning this argument better would lead to much stronger results when showing that chart.

    That’s interesting—I don’t recall anyone ever raising that criticism around the time my article appeared, and it’s certainly incorrect.

    在此期间,哈佛和大多数其他常春藤大学的黑人+西班牙裔入学率仅经历了相对较小的变化,因此要考虑的潜在人口统计数据将是 18-21 岁的白人+亚裔人口。 正如我在我的 “纽约时报” 柱:

    但同样的几年,美国大学年龄的亚裔人口大幅增加,在 1992 年至 2011 年间大约翻了一番, 而非西班牙裔白人人数几乎保持不变。

    因此,绘制亚裔学生的数量与绘制他们在白人+亚裔群体中的份额基本相同。 我强烈怀疑这个问题和其他许多问题一样,只是由那些试图尽可能多地冒烟的人提出的。

    顺便说一句,我应该提到,多年来,我的网站提供了非常方便地访问过去 35 年所有美国大学人口趋势的官方 NCES 数据集:

    https://www.unz.com/enrollments/

  25. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:

    我们还应该记住,犹太人的智力表现往往很不平衡,在语言方面特别强,数学低得多,视觉空间能力完全平庸; 因此,像 Wordsum 这样完全以语言为导向的测试实际上会夸大犹太人的智商。

    To say the least. A group that’s vastly overrepresented in terms of higher education will be exposed to a much wider vocabulary in their day-to-day activities and inevitably score higher.

    But that’s not IQ.

    Let’s just say that I wouldn’t be surprised if this particular mechanism was abused to juice the Jewish IQ numbers in the US – as measured by the Jews in the US. Meanwhile – the land of the chosen – Israel – seems to be scoring around 94-95 IQ.

  26. dearieme 说:

    By God you’re a brave bugger, Mr Unz. Or should that be “by g-d”?

    It may be asking a lot, but has anyone published an analysis of the gentile whites who are admitted? I’m guessing that they are not mainly the children of tractor-drivers from the Midwest, but who are they? Would such an analysis reveal yet more strata of bias? Is it turtles all the way down?

    • 回复: @Hans
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @FKA Max
  27. utu 说:
    @Tyrion 2

    Tyrion 2, If counting Jews is so hard and nobody seems to agree on the result do you think making Jews wearing the yellow star would solve the problem? Would you want to be a part of the solution?

    • 哈哈: Wade
    • 回复: @Anonymous
  28. @Anonymous

    “There are around 1.4 billion people in China alone, and they come from a mindless, brutally test-centric culture”?

    Far from mindlessness, their focus on the University Entrance Examination, the 高考, and the Civil Service Examination, the 国考, are born of their commitment to meritocracy and their horror of inherited privilege dating back to 100 BC. Clearly, it works.

    And as for their being ‘semi-autistic retards who can’t put one foot in front of the other without someone telling them how to do it,’ they smart enough to have overtaken us is science and technology and, sometime between 2020-2025 every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. 

    On that day there will be more suicides and more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China.

    To drive the point home, by then 450,000,000 urban Chinese will have more net worth and disposable income than the average American, their mothers and infants will be less likely to die in childbirth, their children will graduate from high school three years ahead of–and outlive–American kids.

    How dumb can they be?

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Erebus
  29. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @j2

    You can’t extrapolate IQ from that data. Winning a contest like that would be strongly influenced by a lot of non-IQ factors (money, time, tutoring, culture etc.). As an example: the data in the article certainly suggests that the children of 新鲜 immigrants study harder on average.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @j2
  30. anon[297]• 免责声明 说:

    Among other things, I focused upon the publicly available statewide lists of National Merit Semifinalists (NMS), a group that constituted the highest-performing one-half percent of American high school seniors. By a fortunate coincidence, this fraction of the American student body was reasonably close in size to the total enrollment of students at the Ivy League schools together with similarly elite schools such as Stanford, Caltech, and MIT.

    i noticed this from reading your work too

    unless for some reason many Jews don’t participate in the National Merit program, there is no way to explain their extreme overrepresentation in the Ivy League etc

    from your numbers Jews seem to achieve at 3x but are represented in admissions at 10x or higher while whites achieve about at par but are underrepresented as much as 4x

    • 回复: @Marty T
  31. Hans 说:
    @dearieme

    Unz先生,Robert Faurisson教授去世. 《大屠杀》Revisionsim 天才机智的巨人—— http://carolynyeager.net/sad-shocking-news-our-beloved-robert-faurisson-died-today

    最尊贵的人 – 安东尼劳森向 Faurisson 教授致敬 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abRiqpeQyY0&bpctr=1540214290

    劳森的优秀作品是不是德国人真的这么愚蠢—— https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJEE3thwmk

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  32. @utu

    (1) I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article.

    I was just about to write this myself, it enormously reduces the potential audience for this article and makes it easy for critics to dismiss it. I wouldn’t send it to anyone I know, and anyone citing it risks a huge backlash.

    • 回复: @dearieme
  33. anon[297]• 免责声明 说:

    i crunched the numbers for 2014 and they looked something like this:

    Enrollment per year (numbers from 2014) – extrapolated actual jew or white numbers from the percentages in the chart:

    Brown – 1560………..(374 jews – 343 whites) (should have been 94 – 1014)
    Columbia – 1390……(348 jews – 208 whites) (should have been 83 – 904)
    Cornell – 3190……….(734 jews – 766 whites) (should have been 191 – 2074)
    Dartmouth – 1110….(122 jews – 466 whites) (should have been 67 – 721)
    Harvard – 1660………(432 jews – 299 whites) (should have been 100 – 1079)
    Penn – 2420…………..(653 jews – 411 whites) (should have been 145 – 1573)
    Princeton – 1308…….(170 jews – 484 whites) (should have been 78 – 850)
    Yale – 1360…………….(354 jews – 272 whites) (should have been 82 – 884)
    ================================================== ==============================
    (13,998)

    totals (actual estimated 3187 jews – 3249 whites) (should have been 840 – 9099)

    • 回复: @utu
  34. utu 说:
    @Anonymous

    You can’t extrapolate IQ from that data. Winning a contest like that would be strongly influenced by a lot of non-IQ factors (money, time, tutoring, culture etc.).

    Are you one of those who think that money, time, tutoring, culture etc. do not influence IQ test scores? Have you heard of heritability? Why do you think it is 50-60%? Because the remainder, i.e., 50%-40% of IQ variance is caused by environment.

  35. DanFromCT 说:
    @Anonymous

    Our next door neighbors decades ago were Chinese, the father an engineer working at IBM. Their children went to a Chinese-only school every Saturday during the school year to learn how to do well on tests—so their kids told ours. I wonder if little Jewish kids are being prepped in the same way at their weekend Hebrew schools while white kids, if anything, go to a bible study class to have unrequited fairness drilled into their heads.

    Visit the professors’ offices at a top college some weekday, and see if you can work your way five feet past the hostile Chinese kids doing their homework encamped on the hallway floor, awaiting their chance to demand extra help and other unmerited preferment in every course they take.

    • 回复: @JosephD
    , @Alden
  36. AaronB 说:

    Ron has indicated that whites are about 70% of high ability people in the US – and they are likely more, since their scores are likely depressed by weak motivation (which brings me to my point).

    The problem as ever seems to be weak white motivation – I include Jewish capture of administrative posts under this heading, as it never could have happened unless whites had little willpower to resist.

    And weak white admissions relative to Asians is clearly the result of weak motivation and less effort, as Ron makes clear that it isn’t ability.

    One may ask why should whites try hard, that this is s poor quality of life, that if there were no Asians in this country whites could settle comfortably into a relaxed culture after 500 years of intense effort.

    However, that would merely externalize the competition. An America full of relaxed whites who dont try very hard would be at a disadvantage vs a China of extreme strivers, even if much happier and with a much better quality of life in the short term.

    In a globalised world, where distances have shrunk, you can’t avoid the competition. China discovered this in the 19th century.

    This is an extremely regrettable and unfortunate state of affairs that there must be a solution for – if one part of the world is in an unhappy striving stage, how to prevent it from ruining life for everyone else without becoming unappy strivers like them.

    It’s perfectly understandable that Asians have low self-esteem and need to prove themselves after the regrettable events of the 19th century which the West must take responsibility for – but how does one contain this without letting it spoil life for everyone.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @anon
    , @renfro
    , @bomag
  37. j2 说:
    @Anonymous

    Sorry, I made a mistake in the decimal point. For non-Jewish Whites 0.5% is 138.5 IQ points and for Jews it is 132.4 IQ points if all test winners belong to the 5.2 million. The difference is 6 points. However, as Jewish test winners can be partially Jewish, we have to use 8-10 million as the Jewish population. Using 9 million, the Jewish IQ is 135.7. Thus, the difference is 2.8 IQ points. It is much smaller than is often claimed.

    You cannot calculate the genetically determined IQ, but you can calculate the IQ that the tests will measure, which is naturally influenced by environmental factors. I think the difference is mainly environmental and partially a result of selection. Anyway, 2.8 points in average should not matter. There are larger differences in Europe and they change in time.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  38. Anon[253]• 免责声明 说:

    Pretty damning data. No wonder the US is so F–d up. Sorry to have to agree and point out that the situation is much worse than you know or believe. So Jews get special treatment to get into so called Elite Colleges and the rest of course is History. The Jewish Administrators of such Institutions keep it rolling and things compound themselves. Now since Jewish Blood so to speak is the secrete handshake for the Law, Business and Science the world gets turned on its head or inside out or (What ever clever phase Fred Reed could come up with to describe this Cluster #–k). As someone who spent his entire life in Academics in Biology and Medicine there is now doubt about Jewish preference for selection. No Gentiles wanted here. But the problem for the United States is that Co-option of your society by a Tribal Group does not get things done. In my personal experience most Jewish scientists in Biology and Medicine are not the brightest and best, just the most funded and published. This of course interferes with the discovery of “New Knowledge” which requires some level of Genius. No wonder there has been so little truly new and creative advances in so many areas but lots of “me too” and rediscovery or this or that. Yep, its a sick culture (Jewish) and slick as well. Nonetheless the current situation is leading humanity to an existential crisis never before seen in history. Savage and pointless Wars, Inequality, Political Non-functionality all for the sake of a Minority who need to go back to wandering in the Desert before they destroy the Planet.

  39. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @j2

    You cannot calculate the genetically determined IQ, but you can calculate the IQ that the tests will measure

    A school science competition is 不能 an IQ test. Not even close.

    Also: IQ is IQ.

    • 回复: @Alden
  40. anon[203]• 免责声明 说:
    @AaronB

    Ron has indicated that whites are about 70% of high ability people in the US – and they are likely more, since their scores are likely depressed by weak motivation (which brings me to my point).

    The problem as ever seems to be weak white motivation – I include Jewish capture of administrative posts under this heading, as it never could have happened unless whites had little willpower to resist.

    what do you base this speculation on, Aaron?

    It’s perfectly understandable that Asians have low self-esteem and need to prove themselves after the regrettable events of the 19th century which the West must take responsibility for…

    缩小范围

    who exactly in the West must take responsibility? (for flooding China with opium?)

    i think one of the culprits has established a “center for the understanding of anti-semitism”, lol

  41. anon[203]• 免责声明 说:
    @AaronB

    It’s perfectly understandable that Asians have low self-esteem and need to prove themselves….

    to who?

    • 回复: @AaronB
  42. Alden 说:
    @Heros

    All the test prep courses do that. I doubt Kaplan invented it. They have people who take the test again and again. Their job is to memorize 5 questions. Each professional test taker is assigned a section, 1-10 10-20. They write them down as soon as the test is over

    The BAR Nurse, Oracle MD and other certification exams can’t be taken over and over once a person’s passed. So the test prep people recruit people who’ve failed the exams.

    They take the exams several times more memorizing some questions and making sure to fail the test so they can give questions to the prep course people.

    Hate to sound like another ancient codger, but back in the good old days, we were told studying for the SATs was useless. There were no test prep courses I don’t remember any essay.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  43. AaronB 说:
    @anon

    To themselves and to white people. To the world basically.

    It will eventually pass.

    • 回复: @anon
  44. Anonymous [AKA "NadFromTC"] 说:

    Look at that sore loser, complaining that Chinese children study too much through the weekends, and then adding that they request help and “unmerited preferment”. Get a grip, men, there’s like 20 screens showing that they are hard working and screwed by the system.

    The same goes for the moron that repeats, under every post, that Kaplan helps students cheat. Kaplan is open to anyone. You didn’t take Kaplan classes, because you were work-shy. You thought going to college requires sports abilities, but that didn’t work for med school, did it? Kaplan cost is less that what your parents could have saved by buying a smaller car or a smaller house. Chinese and Indian parents chose to educate their children, while yours chose to live in a slightly larger pigsty, at an age that left you with no memories. The complaint is about things that money and work can’t get to someone who does the work, and does not apply to you.

    • 同意: Kratoklastes
  45. annamaria 说:
    @Anon

    Do you want to have your child treated in an emergency room by a “guarantee fixed percentages of admission” kind?

    The article is about the highly aggressive “2%” that have been enthusiastic supporters for the “guarantee fixed percentages of admission” but only for the non-competitive minorities. And don’t forget, the “2%” do not have any Jewish students at Caltech anymore.

    Either there is a meritocracy — the blind admission of the best and brightest to the leading universities — or the country will continue getting drown in the marasm of untouchable topics established by the holo-biz “survivors.”

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  46. Anonymous [AKA "Jews Dindu Nuffins!!!!!!!"] 说:
    @Tyrion 2

    Project much, Dindu?

    (((They))) want high numbers so (((they))) use partial Jewish ancestry or ties of matrimony.

    (((They))) want low nunbers, (((they))) perform an analysis designed to get those fitting only the strictest definition of Jews.

    When this isn’t enough (((they))) simply make an ad hoc and utterly absurd set of jumps. As when (((they)))take the number of Jews found by a poll looking at religion and triple it.

    (((They))) use sources without methodology when it suits (((them))) but refuse to use the same source when it doesn’t.

    FIFY。

  47. @utu

    Totally agree with you both points.

    On point (1), I agree with Ron’s statements, my own prior research concurs with his recent articles on the subject, but it’s a tactical error to include them in this article. It brings in an unrelated and contentious point that will be used to discredit Ron’s excellent analysis of the numbers.

    On point (2), I personally suspect the unqualified people are there as “fall guys”, to enable the blatant rigging of the system to be blamed on a systemic failure when uncovered.

    Ron, thank you for continuing to shine the light of truth on things that must be revealed, and please take good care of your personal security.

  48. Elliot 说:

    Very impressive and robust analysis. I always wondered how long it would take non-Jewish whites to realize they were underrepresented at these school, not because of preferential treatment to blacks and browns, but from preferential treatment to white Jewish students.

    It was pretty easy to see non-Jewish whites as severely underrepresented and Jewish whites being severely overrepresented if you ever visted 希尔勒.org. There, you can get the overall Jewish percentage in a university. If you subtract that percentage from the overall white %, you would easily see that whites are actually a tiny minority in all Ivies, as stated in this article…even though there are more high performing “gentile” white students than Jewish students in every state.

    There are SOME differences, though. I do believe non-Jewish whites care less about elite universities.

    But yes, let’s focus on Affirmative Action and black/Hispanic students, even though their percentages in elite universities are still negligible despite their preferential treatment. And honestly, “elite” blacks and Hispanics will never wield the amount of power their Jewish classmates will.

  49. Relative to the article here, I’m an uneducated slob, but an observant slob. Since the appointment of Harvard’s 1st Jewish president there has been a noticeable rise in Jewish professors and students at the honored institutions. Basically speaking they are out of control.
    The target of the tribes has always been Christian whites, and it appears they are having some success keeping us down on the farm, so to speak. Well, speaking to my brainwashed brethren ,what are we going to do about this? This is a very serious matter. As a very high percentage of Harvard, and Yale students end up in positions with direct control over our lives.
    , our very lives depend on reversing this trend. If the tribes are a race, which I don’t believe they are, they should be reigned in under affirmative action rules and allowed 2% of everything. Not the 100% they always want.
    It’s war I tell you, it’s war.

    • 回复: @HallParvey
    , @Druid
  50. @dearieme

    I wish I could remember the source – I cannot- of an informal study I read in the past four or five years that did precisely what you suggest. The result that most struck me was that indicators of traditional merit, e.g., becoming an Eagle Scout, winning 4H awards, participation in religious groups, the YMCA/YWCA, the NRA, significantly reduced a student’s chances of admission to elite colleges and universities. It was as if admissions officers used these to construct a “Clinton Index of Deplorability”. There really is a war against the native-born, White, Christian, traditionalist population in this country.

  51. @utu

    (1) I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article. I am sure of it! You do not have enough divisions to conduct the war on all fronts. More importantly there are soldiers who will fight for you on this particular front but will desert or even turn against you if you try to deploy them on the others fronts.

    I agree 100%. I host the regional alumni gathering for an Ivy at my home each year, and I found the article fascinating. It’s a bit hard to argue that someone isn’t pulling strings when the statistics are laid out clearly, as Mr. Unz has done.

    It’s frustrating to me that a few “AIPAC baiting” sentences (which incidentally add nothing to the analysis) have made it impossible for me to share the article with other people. This article could easily be front page news and start a national conversation. Instead, it will be read by a few thousand intrepid souls, and never come to the attention of a broader audience. I will read Mr. Unz with great interest, but I can’t very well share many of his articles which is exasperating!

    The pernicious sin in preaching to the choir is not that it is unnecessary; it’s the size of the audience…

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
    , @Anonymous
  52. Thank you for all the thought and effort you put into the analysis of issues like these. Mr. Unz. If the country – once nation – that once was the USA is ever to recover from its continuing malaise and decline it will be due to new cadres awoked and inspired by the work of you and others like you.

  53. @Alden

    That memorizing business sounds ridiculous. What, in reality was going to stop a whole paper being taken out of the exam room, if necessary by writing on cuffs, skin or scraps of paper?

    • 回复: @Alden
  54. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @annamaria

    Absolutely agree (except that 0% at Caltech is clearly a lie). The Tribe is using token minorities to mask their own, 大规模, hyper-nepotism. There’s no room for East Asians and Whites in the planned JWO.

    And that’s academia – which was supposed to be highly regulated and 100% meritocratic. What’s happening in other goyim-management nodes (banking, law, politics, MSM, entertainment etc.) is even worse.

  55. Ron Unz 说:
    @A Bit Sandy

    It’s frustrating to me that a few “AIPAC baiting” sentences (which incidentally add nothing to the analysis) have made it impossible for me to share the article with other people. This article could easily be front page news and start a national conversation.

    That’s a reasonable attitude, but based on experience I tend to disagree.

    Bear in mind, that virtually all my analysis in this article and the bulk of the text was merely excerpted from my original 2012 Meritocracy article, which I discussed at the beginning. And despite all the great endorsements it received from very prominent figures, it didn’t exactly reach the front news pages or spark a national conversation. In fact, it sounds like you only just now discovered it, or at least the very significant Jewish aspects of my analysis.

    So if you want to share essentially the same findings, but provided in a maximally inoffensive and rather more polished package, you can just give them copies of that original article, or the various others I published over the years in the WSJ, the NYT, and NR, plus my numerous follow-up columns:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/new-york-times-asian-american-quotas-in-the-ivy-league-2/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/some-minorities-are-more-minor-than-others/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/bakk76067/

    https://www.unz.com/author/ron-unz/topic/meritocracy/

    Among other things, the Meritocracy article is so long, it’s often much more convenient to read in a PDF format, which is also made available.

    Anyway, good luck with your efforts, and thanks for your kind words.

  56. Albion 说:

    Most of these Asian students are the children of China’s elite being dump on our universities. I attended the UW and it was, and still is, swamped with international students. The purpose of our universities should be to educate the people we already have here, you know, citizens!

    China is our chief rival in the 21st century, and allowing Chinese students to take over our elite universities is madness. Jewish nepotism needs to be dealt with, but flooding Harvard with Asians isn’t the way to go about it.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @DB Cooper
    , @Kratoklastes
  57. jaichind 说:

    Hi. Ron. Really love your work. I guess my questions are:

    1) Are you using the same methodology to estimate Jewish composition for NMS and for estimating the Jewish composition for Harvard students
    2) Are you taking into account that Harvard has something like 10% international students that does not participate in MMS. Are you normalizing that population out when it comes to comparison between NMS and Harvard populations.

    I totally suspect you are right but addressing 1) and 2) will beat most if not all criticisms of your methods.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  58. Ron Unz 说:
    @A Bit Sandy

    Incidentally, I might add that if you’re seeking a “safe and respectable” reference, you can just explain that the NYT itself described my Meritocracy article as a central factor behind the current Harvard lawsuit, and actually provided a direct link.

    Furthermore, David Brooks of the 纽约时报 had ranked it as possibly the best magazine article of 2012, and that top editor at “经济学家” 说了同样的话。

    Those would seem about as safe and respectable a set of reference as could be imagined, and I provided numerous other linked MSM accolades as well near the top of my current article:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/us/harvard-affirmative-action-asian-students.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/25/opinion/brooks-the-2012-sidney-awards-i.html

  59. HallParvey 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    Once upon a time these Universities were places where the sons of the rich went to study the art of running things.
    Then they began to allow women into their hallowed halls. These women were there largely hunting for Mr. Right. Not really caring who won the Trojan War or any of that other historical nonsense. Much more important was what to wear to the Spring Dance, and just Who might be there.

    More recently, due to the efforts of a certain tribe that is, like Voldamort, unmentionable, the women who make up a majority of the students at major universities, and minor, might be there to avoid the responsibilities of mommy-hood.
    After all, changing dirty diapers is much less appealing than dancing into the wee hours, followed by a thrilling tryst with Handsome Jack.

    Then of course, there are the un-chosen. As a result of these evolutionary changes, the halls of learning have replaced the nunnery as a safe place for the un-chosen. Those females who, through no fault of their own, are among the unselected during that time of mating that is now, and has always been, a part of every ones life. The ones who are unlucky in the search for Mr. Right.

    By the way, it’s okay to be one of the slobs. Better to know nothing than to have a head full of phoney claptrap.

  60. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @A Bit Sandy

    it will be read by a few thousand intrepid souls, and never come to the attention of a broader audience

    Share it anonymously.

    I have little doubt that this article will be shared, read and talked about much more widely than you’re suggesting. Most people are not afraid to share and discuss the “American Pravda” topics and those who are (understandably if their careers or even freedom can be jeopardised) can always do it anonymously.

    The World is changing and the JQ Overton window has shifted dramatically lately. That’s why they’re trying to gag the Internet (it won’t save them).

  61. @niteranger

    Wherever you school or work, if a Jew is placed in a position with authority to influence hiring the Jew will hire more Jews. That’s the way it goes.

    • 回复: @Joe862
  62. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @dearieme

    It may be asking a lot, but has anyone published an analysis of the gentile whites who are admitted? I’m guessing that they are not mainly the children of tractor-drivers from the Midwest, but who are they?

    Many of them are elite, Northeastern Catholics like Brett Kavanaugh, which is reflected in the composition of the current SCOTUS, which is predominately Catholic and Jewish and the justices are all mostly “feeder judges” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeder_judge recruited from either Harvard or Yale https://www.unz.com/article/judaism-as-a-group-evolutionary-strategy/#comment-2261642 . This adds insult to injury for WASPs:

    The Whites of the Harvard Class of 2019 are 9.5% Other, 18.7% Atheist, 19.9% Agnostic, 0.5% Mormon, 1.7% Muslim, 17.1% Jewish, 13.3% Protestant and 19.3% Catholic.

    Catholics are actually the biggest religious group at Harvard today, even before religious, but not ethnic, Jews.
    [...]
    Protestants are likely the most underrepresented group at the Ivy League, even though they founded it and still are about 50% of the U.S. population in 2018.

    This is what the Transformation of America and the American elite looks like…

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/has-the-adl-gone-into-hiding/#comment-2545855

    Yale student body composition by religious affiliation 2010s:

    [更多]

    来源: https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#comment-2546081 and https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-religions-that-most-Ivy-League-students-practice 存档的链接: http://archive.is/OjWNr#selection-611.0-611.260

    This video perfectly illustrates, in my opinion, the systematic ethnic and cultural cleansing of the founding stock of the Ivy League from the Ivy League Mr. Unz describes in this article:

    Siskel&Ebert与WASP

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/siskel-ebert-on-wasps/ and https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-curley-effect-versus-the-kennedy-effect/#comment-1619098

    柯里效应与肯尼迪效应

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-curley-effect-versus-the-kennedy-effect/ and https://www.unz.com/article/the-reality-of-red-subversion/#comment-1699584

    Early in World War I, a wounded British officer arrived in Boston to recruit citizens of the then-neutral United States to fight in the British army. He politely asked the by then legendary Irish mayor of Boston, James Michael Curley, for permission. Curley replied, ‘‘Go ahead Colonel. Take every damn one of them.’’ This statement captures Curley’s lifelong hostility to the AngloSaxons of Boston, whom he described as ‘‘a strange and stupid race,’’ and his clear wish that they just leave. Throughout his four terms, using a combination of aggressive redistribution and incendiary rhetoric, Curley tried to transform Boston from an integrated city of poor Irish and rich protestants into a Gaelic city on American shores.

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  63. @Anonymous

    This isn’t really about Asians, is it? The unintended consequence of this lawsuit is far more important. It is shining the spotlight upon the criminal class, illuminating those who dedicate decades to the achieving their nefarious goals.

  64. Kurt Gayle 说:

    I understand Utu’s objection (Oct 22, 6:11 a.m.) – “You do not have enough divisions to conduct the war on all fronts. More importantly there are soldiers who will fight for you on this particular front but will desert or even turn against you if you try to deploy them on the others fronts” – but I think Utu is wrong. Utu is wrong for this important reason: Without The Hoax no one can even begin to explain how so massive and systemic a discrimination could take place for so long without it being called out and resisted. The Hoax allows them to do the unjust things they do and at the same time to threaten into silence any of the rest of us who would dare object. So I would recommend, Mr. Unz, that you stick to your guns and leave that paragraph right where it is.

    • 回复: @annamaria
  65. anon[175]• 免责声明 说:
    @AaronB

    i’m white and they don’t need to prove themselves to me

    i’m not their judge

    • 回复: @AaronB
  66. Aside from the potential violations of Title VII, the parallel admission conduct of the Ivies also strongly implies an illegal anti-trust violation. This is another line of attack that someone should be looking into.

  67. anon[175]• 免责声明 说:
    @Albion

    The purpose of our universities should be to educate the people we already have here, you know, citizens!

    exactly, the educate children of the people who actually built the institutions

    instead what’s happening is they seem to think their mission is to educate anyone except…..

  68. Kurt Gayle 说:

    @ A Bit Sandy (Oct 22, 5:12 pm) who says: “It’s frustrating to me that a few ‘AIPAC baiting’ sentences (which incidentally add nothing to the analysis) have made it impossible for me to share the article with other people. This article could easily be front page news and start a national conversation. Instead, it will be read by a few thousand intrepid souls, and never come to the attention of a broader audience. I will read Mr. Unz with great interest, but I can’t very well share many of his articles which is exasperating!”

    Mr. Unz could remove the paragraph in question and the link to Unz Review would still reveal articles (by Ron Unz and by many others) that the-people-you-want-to-share-with-but-can’t would almost certainly find objectionable for the same—and possibly many other related—reasons.

    At some point, A Bit Sandy, you should consider what many of us think to be the case: That dealing at long last honestly with the paragraph in question is a key to ending this kind of systemic discrimination and injustice perpetrated by the group in question.

  69. The massive unexamined variable in this analysis is the degree to which different groups care about elite academic credentials. If some groups care more than others and work harder to gain admission, that could explain a lot of the variation discussed here. Yet Ron spends very little time addressing this critical factor.

    I was a National Merit Finalist in one of the years Ron covers in his 2012 piece. I’m white and I grew up in a small town in a conservative Christian subculture. My parents are highly intelligent people (one was also a NMF), but they devoted no effort to the college application rat race and went to little-known state schools, where they got high grades and STEM degrees. No one in their immediate or extended families made any attempt to attend elite universities. Those places were barely on their radar screens.

    My (overwhelmingly white) subculture contained many highly intelligent people. Some of them actually did have top Ivy League credentials, but they discouraged their own children and others from applying to those schools, which they considered academically fraudulent (i.e. “Western Civ has got to go”), hedonistic, and anti-Christian.

    The result was that the Ivy League had virtually no pull on me when I was in high school. Academics came naturally but I didn’t care at all about my grades, and I got a few bad ones that I could have avoided with minimal effort. I spent a lot of time hanging out with my friends, working, and playing sports, but almost no time preparing for standardized tests or polishing my extracurricular resume. I didn’t know anyone who did a test prep program.

    In the end I did apply to Harvard and MIT on a whim my senior year, but I didn’t devote much time to the process and didn’t care when I got rejected. In any case, I had some mediocre grades that probably sunk me. I attended a respectable but non-Ivy school.

    After college I stumbled into the online “HBD-sphere”, where people discussed IQ and elite universities obsessively. I was also doing a white-collar job in a big city where I was exposed to credential obsession for the first time. It began to dawn on me that I’d totally missed the boat on something significant. I eventually polished my resume and got into Harvard and MIT for graduate school. But I doubt that would have happened in the pre-internet era.

    My anecdotal impressions have been that 1. there are a lot of conservative white gentiles like the younger me, and 2. that Jews tend to be the opposite- savvier about the pathways to success and influence, and more focused on getting there. I suspect that explains a lot of the disparity.

    • 回复: @FKA Max
    , @Anon
    , @Hibernian
  70. @Anonymous

    “mindless, brutally test-centric culture(s)” may produce (though I’d doubt even that) rote-trained zombies at grade 4 or 5 level but it is difficult to imagine brilliant mathematicians and physicists being churned out by mindless systems. The tests (the math Olympiad et el) do not test rote-learning; they test problem solving abilities at very high levels. Your fear of “importing a lot of idiots from China” rests on foundations other than them being idiots. Me thinks it could be a fear of them per se, whether idiots or geniuses.

    That said, I can see where you are coming from and can empathize with your fears and concerns, though not with bad logic and incorrect facts. Gung-ho full-steam immigration policies of the past several decades had to produce societal frictions sooner or later as squabbles and fights broke out over slicing and sharing the pie. Don’t we see that happening in all spheres of life in the US? And won’t it increase further if the open borders crowd get to have their full way? Perhaps you need to worry more about the “As American as Apple Pie” idiots at home and the immigration policies that they advocate rather than idiots from overseas.

  71. Ron — I haven’t seen anywhere in your analysis where you address the extremely high inter-marriage rate of Jews. My understanding is that it’s been over 50% for many decades. Given this statistic, shouldn’t the percentage of Jewish ancestry in nominal “Jews” be getting massively watered down over the exact time period that you document a collapse in Jewish intellectual achievement?

    Also, while it doesn’t seem to be reflected in the demographic statistics, shouldn’t mass inter-marriage be increasing the number of nominal Jews? For example, non-Jewish spouses (especially women) frequently convert, making them new “Jews,” while the originally Jewish spouse will continue to count as a “Jew” even if he was always an atheist to begin with. Likewise, children from a mixed marriage with a Jewish father will take a Jewish surname while the children of a Jewish mother are considered Jewish by religious convention. Plus, membership in the Tribe undoubtedly has its benefits, so those with a choice will usually opt-in.

    In short, mass intermarriage seems calculated to massively increase the “Jewish” category while simultaneously watering down its original Jewishness (be it cultural or genetic). Doesn’t this have to play a significant role in your thesis?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  72. AaronB 说:
    @anon

    But they feel you are. And they must satisfy their conscience.

    There is no way out for them. Asians must go through this phase until they get out on the other side, like whites did.

    The challenge for us is to contain them without returning to the hyper-competitive people we used to be but have grown out of.

  73. renfro 说:
    @AaronB

    You are very close to being exactly right on the comfort factor.
    But it is changing.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  74. DB Cooper 说:
    @Albion

    It they are foreign students then they are paying good tuition to attend these colleges, state or private. Their tuition are much higher than even out of state tuition. America is not loosing money on educating them. Rather it is quite the opposite.

  75. renfro 说:

    An analysis of the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth found that Americans raised in the Episcopal Church actually exceeded Jews in mean IQ, while several other religious categories came quite close

    I always knew we Episcopalians were smarter than the Jews…..LOL.
    Thanks for confirming Unz.

  76. AaronB 说:
    @renfro

    I do not think being an unhappy striver is an enviable state – it is generally the result of trauma and a penance one must undergo or a disease of the mind one must work through.

    Asians suffered this trauma, and right now have this disease. See the various Chinese commenters on this site to see just how unhappy and mentally unbalanced they are (Daniel Chieh, gmachine, Duke of Qin, Yan Shen, and others even worse).

    This is not where whites wish to return – not so long ago whites were similar, and Jews are now seemingly emerging from the disease as well.

    So what I’m interested in is some way to play the game without becoming just like them, to contain them without becoming like them.

    Its a challenge very few countries in history have managed, and certainly not the Chinese when the show was on the other foot.

    • 回复: @Kratoklastes
  77. anon[252]• 免责声明 说:
    @DB Cooper

    It they are foreign students then they are paying good tuition to attend these colleges, state or private. Their tuition are much higher than even out of state tuition.

    true – i see estimates of 2-4x the rate of in-state tuition

    America is not loosing money on educating them. Rather it is quite the opposite.

    is America making money on them or just the universities?

    many of these universities were built with taxpayer monies and land grants etc so why are they educating foreigners instead of Americans? who gave them permission?
    it certainly wasn’t me

    do the benefits of the university making money on international students outweigh the opportunity losses suffered by American students?

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  78. Anonymous [AKA "Derw"] 说:

    exactly, the educate children of the people who actually built the institutions

    instead what’s happening is they seem to think their mission is to educate anyone except…..

  79. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @DB Cooper

    America is not loosing money on educating them. Rather it is quite the opposite.

    No one mentioned money so far.

    这不是钱的问题。

    The global (((debt))) Ponzi was unsustainable and un-repayable for a very, very long time.

    这是关于 控制. Can’t you figure it out?

    • 回复: @HallParvey
  80. 我们还应该记住,犹太人的智力表现往往很不平衡,在语言方面特别强,数学低得多,视觉空间能力完全平庸; 因此,像 Wordsum 这样完全以语言为导向的测试实际上会夸大犹太人的智商。

    I don’t know if this is still the case, but back in the day (mid-1980’s) the National Merit Scholar Semifinalist cutoff was based on a weighted average that gave double-weight to the verbal section.

    The test was a shorter version of the SAT called the Pre-SAT (PSAT). The scores were on the same scale as the regular verbal and math SAT tests but were expressed for some reason as one-tenth of the equivalent regular SAT score. So if Person A scored a 75 on Math and 60 on Verbal that would equate to an overall SAT score of 1350 (750 Math + 600 Verbal). Likewise, if Person B had the inverse scored 60 on Math and 75 Verbal this would also equate to an overall SAT of 1350 (600 Math + 750 Verbal).

    However, for purposes of the National Merit competition rankings, the weighted score for Person A was 195 (75 + [2 x 60]), while the score for Person B was 210 (60 + [2 x 75]).

    I don’t if they still weight the test this way but, if anything, the NMS cutoff is already skewed in favor of the Jewish strong suit in verbal reasoning. By contrast, I don’t believe the elite colleges claim to give any more weight to one test over the other during the regular admission process. As a result, Jewish over-performance in college admissions compared to the NMS baseline is perhaps even more statistically significant.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  81. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @A Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    What you describe is thematized in this excellent WSJ 文章:

    已故的伟大的美国WASP
    美国的老统治阶级有很多问题。 但是,对于一个由自我参与,学历过高的现代精英主义产品所统治的国家,我们真的会更好吗?

    http://archive.is/GWmc3

    From a HBD perspective Jews and Northeast Asians (see my website link for this comment for details on this subject matter, i.e. “Ashkepathy”), in particular, are more competitive and more status-oriented than Whites:

    亚裔美国人与唯物主义:探讨这一现象及其原因和时间。
    [...]
    http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-24365-001

    https://www.unz.com/article/are-southpaws-really-sinister-increased-incidence-suggests-were-headed-for-mouse-utopia-collapse/#comment-2533946

    Mr. Unz, briefly, commented on this here:

    Actually, I don’t think that’s correct. The key factor is that over the last generation or two, it’s become *例外* difficult for non-Jewish whites without some huge personal advantage to gain admission to Harvard. Therefore, from what I’ve heard here and there, fewer and fewer of them even bother applying.

    亚洲人获得录取几乎同样困难,但由于他们的家人如此狂热,他们还是申请了。

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/if-harvard-had-colorblind-admissions-its-black-share-would-fall-from-15-8-to-0-9/#comment-2577804

    [更多]

    认知精英和犹太优生计划 Gilad ATZMON

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R62ywTRDs6U

    来源: https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-fifth-column-2/#comment-2499760

    Jews are much more likely than whites to suffer from schizophrenia [Scientists Discover Gene That Predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to Schizophrenia, By Ido Efrati, Haaretz, November 26, 2013]. The essence of schizophrenia is “hypermentalism”—being so acutely aware of the physical cues of mental states (such as facial expressions) that you read too much into them: a smile means he’s in love with me; a slight frown means he wants to kill me.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-democratic-party-has-tipped-to-minorities-women-gays-expect-more-kavanaugh-type-hysteria-in-the-future/#p_1_12

    What about those at the pinnacle, did they need high IQ’s? No doubt, it took cunning to see good opportunities. But other personality factors besides intelligence could lead to fortune. One could even keep this with a psychological Darwinian orientation by suggesting that risk taking, or aggressiveness-both traits often claimed to have genetic bases-led to great profit.

    来源: http://archive.is/wfpNR#selection-10611.0-10647.62 and https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-fifth-column-2/#comment-2500299

  82. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    我自己说不出更好的话。

  83. Anonymous[346]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    As a fan of the America Pravda series all I can say is I hope Ron is not tricked into visiting the Israeli consulate any time soon. I can just picture it, Abe Foxman with a bone saw in his hand, “No Mr. Unz, we have 不能 gone into hiding.”

    • 回复: @Reuben Kaspate
  84. Vin 说:

    It’s touched on here:

    https://telegra.ph/Protocols-8-05-29

    “It is well known to us that the supposed anti-white employment bias groaned about by conservative whites is not about skin colour, for the Ashkenazi is white as well, of the same basic phenotype and race as those he rules over. Rather, the empire’s employment policy is pro-Ashkenazi, as it should be. It is a universal truth that the conquerors and upper castes of countries reserve the ruling spots for themselves and limit the opportunities of those perceived as potential threats. It has never been otherwise in history. To struggle against this fact would be to join in the insanity of the conservative white. The task of the Aryan is not to oppose this selective process but to speed it along, for it is the increasing absence of slavish whites in the educational fields, and in the Ashkenazi’s society in general, that will ultimately harm the Jew.

    The varied peoples of the world who have begun to fill the previous white social and economic rôles in today’s West do not understand the Ashkenazi’s agenda. They have not had long experience with the Ashkenazi, as have we. They believe that the Ashkenazi’s calls for equality are specifically meant to act in their favour, not yet insightful enough to recognise that these calls are actually formulated to act in the Ashkenazi’s favour, which currently means the whites’ disfavour, and that they, as replacers of the whites, are in their new positions by default. These different peoples of the world, placed into their different professional positions for reasons they do not yet truly comprehend, already begin to show less concern for the Ashkenazi master than the biologically compromised white ever did. From United Nations mouthpieces down to elementary school teachers, these newcomers do not act in the service of any false universal altruism once they are established, but only for themselves and the advancement of their particular people. No groups worship the Ashkenazi in the same manner as the whites, and so their replacement is obviously desired by us.”

    和这里:

    https://telegra.ph/Protocols-7-05-29

    [更多]

    “After the Ashkenazi eliminated the indigenous educators in Russia during his revolution there, and in Germany, France, Italy, and the rest of Europe during his post-war revenge against our people, he placed his own selections in those positions of power which dealt with shaping the minds of our nations’ youth. The change in educational policy was catastrophic for our peoples. Its effects are seen everywhere today, from the ruined condition of our natural environments and national cultures to the psychological and morphological changes in the very phenotype of our following generations.

    In the Anglo-Saxon nations the changes made by the Jew have been different, as one would expect due to the different cultural environment they possess compared to our previous nationalistic states in Europe. Social and educational policy alterations have taken place in gradual fashion, stretched over a longer period of time. In Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, and Great Britain, the Ashkenazi still purged his competitors with the same zeal and thoroughness as he did in our conquered Aryan lands, but he did it steadily and less violently. Whites were consistently eliminated from their professional positions and student university slots day by day, year after year. This has not abated. The available economic niches are shrinking for whites, and nothing will stop this process. Nothing can. It is to be expected. When met with no cultural resistance the Ashkenazi murders slowly by dozens of different methods that can never be called genocide unless viewed from a higher plateau and with a broader perspective, as if watching many generations of ants over a decade destroying competitors and transforming a landscape, bit by bit. The final result of an Ashkenazi victory is always the same, whether his elimination of rivals happens in an orgy of executions and imprisonments over a few years, or whether it takes place over three generations of culturally discriminatory hiring policies and legal proscriptions.

    Whites in Britain or Canada or the United States currently wring their hands and decry the ridiculously meager previous attempts by a handful of their ancestors to limit the Ashkenazi’s rôle in academia. Having been effectively exiled from their own institutions in just a matter of decades by the Ashkenazi invader, the slavish whites exhibit remorse over the feeble actions taken by their feeble grandparents to perhaps ensure them a future. They ascribe these meager attempts on their ancestors’ part to protect their legacy as “moral failings”.

    No other people on earth act this way, nor have they ever. The whites are suicidal and insane, and deserve to reap the deadly harvest they have sown. Their pathetic sociobiological defences have currently approached nil, and we do all we can to further speed up the progress of their cultural disenfranchisement and deterioration until, as a group, they are finally extinct.”

  85. Albion 说:
    @DB Cooper

    And? They don’t belong here and our universities shouldn’t be treated as businesses. It’s unfortunate that so many Americans believe anything and everything to have a price tag and nothing is sacred.

    We’re a nation, not a global shopping mall.

    • 同意: 3g4me
  86. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    That’s how it’s done. I’ve known professional test takers and that’s exactly what they do. The test prep companies recruit professional test takers on college campuses American college towns have a lot of part time grad students and other hangers on who make a living writing term papers and taking tests

    I was recruited to be a professional test taker by other professional test takers. The test prep companies both advertise and do word of mouth recruiting.

    How hard is it to memorize 5 out of 130 questions, especially when you can make \$70,000 a year doing it? They don’t just take the tests and memorize questions. They also teach the test prep classes. It’s a good job, much easier than being a public school teacher.

    It’s a very White male occupation because so many careers are closed to White men in this obscenity of a country ruled by minions of Satan.

    Every once in a while a fake Asian student story gets in the papers. A college teacher notices that the same person has taken the class several times under different names. It happens a lot more than gets in the news.

    [更多]

    Sometimes when adding up credits the computer notices that a student took a transferable class at a community college the same quarter the student took another class at the same time at the university 100 miles away.

    I was always being asked to write term papers for money. I never did because I couldn’t bring myself to write the politically correct anti White racist marxist crapology the teachers demanded.

    I learned a lot when I worked at the
    University of a few Caucasians Lost among Asians.

    Here’s a professional test taker I was told about when I worked at the university hospital by a nurse with whom I became friendly.

    A professional test taker was a medical records clerk at Alhambra hospital and regularly took the registered nurse and licensed vocational nurse exams. Nursing students do the clinical part of their studies at hospitals. Most of her customers were students who did their clinical at Alhambra hospital and word of mouth all over the area.

    She was very intelligent and an excellent memorized. She never took a test prep course. She just bought the test prep books and memorized the questions and answers.

    She’s Mexican with a lot of Indian so she can pass for just about any kind of Hispanic Asian Phillipino. She used the Dr license and admission ticket of the woman she impersonated to gain admission.
    She charged \$2,000 for RN \$1,000 for LVN.

    She was often asked why she didn’t go to nursing school since she’d ace the academic part. Her husband made a lot of money. Nursing school is 4 hard years. She’d rather make \$20, 000 a year cash taking tests for others.

    If the nursing board is using the fingerprint pad at the test centers she obviously can’t do it any more.

    Since you’re a chauvinist defensive Jew I’ll tell you that in high school, college and when I worked at the university I never noticed any Jews cheating

    My high school was about 30% Jews. We were all under pressure to get into prestige colleges. The Jews didn’t cheat or take the test prep courses. because there weren’t college admission test courses in the good old days

    In college the people who wrote papers for others and paid them weren’t Jews, just ordinary goyim of various religions and ethnicities. I was unaware of cheating on exams maybe my friends didn’t cheat on exams.

    Decades later at the University of a few
    Caucasians lost among Asians most of the cheating was done by Asians. Most of it was paying some one else to take a required crapology course.

    And why not? As the Asian guys said, “ “ if I want to read a Jane Austen book, I’ll read it, why waste a quarter reading it”

    There was a major scandal about the Bar exam. The wife was an attorney. Husband graduated and failed the exam first time. So she took the exam for him using his ticket of admission and Dr license. Their names were not androgynous but very sex specific something like Richard and Laura.

    The Bar exam is 3 6 hour exams held 3 consecutive days. So 3 times she presented a dr license and admission ticket with a mans picture and an obvious man’s name to take the exam..
    Plus there are breaks during the 6 hour exam and the dr license is again required to enter the exam room. 2 breaks during each exam plus morning entrance that means she presented the dr license with a man’s picture and name 9 times over 3 days and the proctors didn’t notice.

    Not only that, but she was 9 months pregnant and went directly from the last day of the exam to the hospital and had her baby later that night.

    The news was all aghast at how blind the proctors who admitted her were. Bring the cynic that I am, I assumed it was arranged in advance with a proctor who was very well paid.

    They were caught because he failed badly and she passed in the 90th percentile. What they didn’t know is that a red flag is raised when a test taker who previously failed gets a score more than a reasonable number of points more on the second try.

    The UCLA Chinese students told me that the Chinese language newspapers have ads for test prep courses that say passing guaranteed. That’s code for some kind of cheating. There was one way of cheating that involved glasses with a little radio bud. The answers were recited into the little ear bud

    Another involved the pencils they brought in. They needed magnifying glasses to see the code printed on the pencil. 89-C. means question 89 answer is C.

    That’s not Kaplan or any other honest test prep course. That’s ethnic Chinese and Chinese language only blatant cheating.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  87. @Anon

    Hopefully, you will never have to have your derriere examined by an affirmative action physician be she Jewish, Black or Hispanic. I wouldn’t want an unqualified doctor probing my behind without having the proper skill set to do so… damn the justice!

  88. @Anonymous

    A Jew isn’t an Arab. No matter how much they may be displeased with the author for exposing their shenanigans, Jews will not butcher a fellow Jew!

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Anon
  89. HallParvey 说:
    @Anonymous

    It’s a Ponzi scheme only if it’s private. When Government does it, it’s monetary easing or some other such acceptable nonsense explanation.

    It’s only counterfeit if some individual does it. Printing money is part of those powers reserved to the Federals.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  90. @DB Cooper

    So, then, why not keep that “much higher” tuition in China and build your own Harvard, Yale, etc.? The thing is, White Christian males built those wonderful institutions of higher education and now Tom (Jew), Dick (Chinese) and Harry (Indian) aong with LaKunta and Jose-Jesus wants to take it over, while kicking Jones and Smith to the curb. It oughtn’t be that way!

  91. @Ron Unz

    Thank you for your excellent article and for taking the time to provide the links in post 55 & 58. I’m reading “The Myth of American Meritocracy” with great interest. In rereading my post 51, I clearly came off as being critical, but in truth, I think your careful analysis, and excellent articles are tremendously important, and need to be shared as widely as possible.

    Henry D Thoreau once said “For every thousand hacking at the leaves of evil, there is one striking at the root.” I think you’re striking at the root of the puzzling ivy league admissions conundrum, our baffling foreign policy in the Middle East, social justice obsession, self destructive economic policy, and more. Your American Pravda series is a national treasure.

    Given the subject matter, it’s doubtless impossible to write an article that won’t “trigger” the social justice warrior set, but Trumps shocking 2016 victory provides compelling evidence that vast numbers of Americans intuitively sense that something is very wrong (without knowing what it is) and are searching for any explanation/solution they can get. I think you may be driving to the root of the problem, however uncomfortable that reality is to digest.

    Many thanks for your work, and the not inconsiderable risks you take in publishing these articles. I can appreciate how silly it is for an armchair quarterback like me to offer unsolicited opinions from the safety of a pseudonym, but I am at least sincere in what I say, and I have great hope that your work will be more broadly read.

    I think your American Pravda series is a national treasure BTW. Thanks!

  92. Ron Unz 说:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I don’t if they still weight the test this way but, if anything, the NMS cutoff is already skewed in favor of the Jewish strong suit in verbal reasoning….As a result, Jewish over-performance in college admissions compared to the NMS baseline is perhaps even more statistically significant.

    That’s exactly correct, and I actually discussed that issue in my long 2012 Meritocracy article:

    Earlier we had noted that the tests used to select NMS semifinalists actually tilted substantially against Asian students by double-weighting verbal skills and excluding visuospatial ability, but in the case of Jews this same testing-bias has exactly the opposite impact. Jewish ability tends to be exceptionally strong in its verbal component and mediocre at best in the visuospatial,[57] so the NMS semifinalist selection methodology would seem ideally designed to absolutely maximize the number of high-scoring Jews compared to other whites or (especially) East Asians.

    I should emphasize that my Meritocracy article is far longer and more comprehensive this one, also containing 120 endnotes, many of them quite detailed. So those particularly interested in this subject, should probably read it, along with my series of follow-up columns.

  93. @Anon

    我有一个更好的主意。

    How about giving fixed percentages to the old-stock groups who poured their blood, sweat, and tears into creating this country and endowing it with the greatest social infrastructure and social capital in world history (but often retarding their individual family success by pouring their efforts into creating a society they 思想 would be the exclusive property of their descendants).

    Old-stock groups include:
    1. Those American Indian tribes who have always lived north of the Rio Grande
    2. Black Americans (descendants of people held as slaves in the United States, not the Caribbean!)
    3. White Christian Americans (maybe separate quotas for Evangelicals, Liberal Protestants, Mormons, and Catholics to ensure Red State conservatives aren’t shut out completely, as they currently are).

    Groups that showed up after all the hard work of creating this society was done (Asians, Jews, Middle Easterners, Caribbeans, Latin Americans, Africans) can compete meritocratically for the remaining spots.

    Excess talent among the old-stock groups can compete for the meritocratic slots – old-stock quotas will be a floor below which old-stocks will not be allowed to fall, but never a ceiling that prevents them from rising.

    • 回复: @Reuben Kaspate
  94. Ron Unz 说:
    @jaichind

    1) Are you using the same methodology to estimate Jewish composition for NMS and for estimating the Jewish composition for Harvard students
    2) Are you taking into account that Harvard has something like 10% international students that does not participate in MMS. Are you normalizing that population out when it comes to comparison between NMS and Harvard populations.

    (1) Unfortunately, Harvard class rosters are generally kept private, so key can’t be used for surname analysis, and I was forced to rely upon the historic Hillel estimates. I do recall digging up my own Harvard yearbook and my surname analysis seemed pretty consistent with the ethnic distribution estimates of that era.

    Another factor is that surname inspection analysis takes a considerable amount of time, and would need to be applied to hundreds of thousands of Ivy League names during the period in question.

    (2) Sure, I certainly took into account the International students. It’s all discussed in my Meritocracy article, and the several Quantitative Appendices.

    • 回复: @Alden
  95. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @HallParvey

    It’s still a Ponzi and it’s coming to an end.The time-frames are (very) different but the end result is the same.

  96. Jews have gamed Ivy League admissions to benefit themselves and screw others. Shocking racial supremacism and hatred. These Jews have no morals but are pretty good at making accusations against everyone else.
    Vermin. They will be expelled. Treason is punishable by death. Jews and traitors take note. The end of your devilry is nigh.

  97. @John Gruskos

    You included the Red man in your litany of who did what and who didn’t, is it because you stole the land from under him to build the great society and now want to make up for it by punishing others, who deserve better?

    • 回复: @John Gruskos
    , @Alden
  98. Erebus 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Have you ever actually lived/worked in China as anything other than a journalist?

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
  99. Alden 说:
    @DB Cooper

    The universities make money. “America” doesn’t. American individuals lose money because their college places are taken by foreigners.

    • 回复: @DB Cooper
  100. JLK 说:

    I was a NMS semifinalist in New Jersey back in the 1980s. As I recall, the selection score cutoff was different in each state to prevent students from high SES areas and states from dominating. In other words one needed a higher score in states like NY and NJ to qualify than in states like Alabama.

    This could somewhat discriminate against Jews.

    However, the discrepancies Mr. Unz points out are of a much higher magnitude than might be explained by such discrimination. An investigation is justified. I doubt we’ll see it from the mainstream press.

    I agree that the point of the article would be better served by eliminating the Holocaust references.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @annamaria
  101. Sean 说:

    Jews with power over other peoples have behaved, if not worse, then no better than gentiles in the same position of dominance. But one has to wonder how Jews ever came to be in such positions– given that they are a tiny minority. An argument that Jews are not clever enough to justify their over-representation to the point of dominance over a 98 % gentile majority in the politically and economically key seats of learning is open to the objection, how could the Jews get to be dominant if they are not much cleverer in the way that counts for the organisation of society?

    Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    Could Jews do that do that with an advantage in IQ, even if it was far more than what that Lynn and Unz are crediting them with? While they are no doubt more cohesive, one person (Ron) seems to have hewing a quixotic way through the controversy virtually alone. There are a lot of gentiles with close to the IQ of Ron Unz yet none of them has got any traction with bringing anti gentile discrimination at Harvard to the public’s attention and one cannot imagine such a white gentile even trying to come to the front with such an issue.

    I dare say Peterson and Cochran are partially correct, and the the advantage that lets Jews master white gentile societies has something to do with IQ. However, it seems clear to me that Jews are inherently good at convincing by argumentation and winning people over to controversial viewpoints (new intellectual tastes and trends) far beyond what their IQ would suggest, and like anyone with a gift they enjoy doing what they are good at.

    • 哈哈: Ron Unz
    • 回复: @FKA Max
    , @Ron Unz
    , @annamaria
    , @anon
  102. Ron Unz 说:
    @JLK

    In other words one needed a higher score in states like NY and NJ to qualify than in states like Alabama.

    This could somewhat discriminate against Jews.

    Yes, that’s an important issue that I analyze in my Meritocracy paper. However, it seems far more likely that the variable statewide thresholds sharply disadvantage Asians, and may actually benefit Jews to some extend.

    The main reason is that Asians are so overwhelmingly dominant in huge CA, which consequently has one of the highest thresholds. Therefore, if the NMS threshold were national, probably very large numbers of the non-NMS Asians in CA would qualify, squeezing out groups in lower-threshold states. Interestingly enough, it appears that a disproportionate number of the NMS Jews are qualifying in low-threshold states, and would be eliminated.

    That’s actually the main reason my Asian NMS percentage was given so imprecisely as 25-30%. The actual figure was about 26%, but given the extremely high CA threshold, a national NMS threshold would surely raise the Asian percentage considerably.

  103. Anonymous[101]• 免责声明 说:
    @OMG

    Ethnic and also ideological tribalism make it virtually impossible for large segments of the population to enter these elite institutions. Many would have little desire to surround themselves with the sort of people they would encounter at, say an Ivy League school anyway.

    The real issue is that being a part of these institutions provides an entryway to very real power. It will also create gatekeepers who’ll decide who has power in the future. The system effectively allows a small clique to legally exclude the vast majority of Americans from elite positions, by creating a monopoly on slots at a few schools. It allows elites to surround themselves with co-ethnics and handpicked ideological soulmates drawn from a microscopic section of the nations talent. It’s an incestous back scratching club. This is a serious problem.

  104. Ron Unz 说:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I haven’t seen anywhere in your analysis where you address the extremely high inter-marriage rate of Jews. My understanding is that it’s been over 50% for many decades. Given this statistic, shouldn’t the percentage of Jewish ancestry in nominal “Jews” be getting massively watered down over the exact time period that you document a collapse in Jewish intellectual achievement?

    Actually, the very high Jewish intermarriage rate seems to be a considerable exaggeration, at least with regard to the first marriages that typically produce children. Kevin MacDonald discusses the issue at considerable length in one of his books:

    https://www.unz.com/book/kevin_macdonald__separation-and-its-discontents/#chapter-9-is-diaspora-judaism-ceasing-to-be-an-evolutionary

    Also, since intermarriage was fairly rare until the last few decades, the time-lag for any resulting children to be in H.S. or college probably means it had a relatively small impact on the huge Jewish performance declines I noted during that exact period. I think the other factors I suggested are much more likely to be responsible.

    And since Jewish intermarriages are apparently fairly gender-equal, surname analysis would tend to pick up roughly half of the half-Jews.

  105. dearieme 说:
    @for-the-record

    I agree entirely, as follows.

    (1) The piece is already long; removal of an essentially extraneous paragraph would be a useful contribution to shortening it.

    (2) A reader might be persuaded by the argument about admissions without being persuaded by the arguments, or statements, about the holocaust, and about Marxist murders. Therefore confine each topic to a separate blog post.

    (3) The experiment has been performed: readers say that they can’t bring themselves to circulate links to the post while the offending paragraph is in place. If the purpose of the post is to persuade many people about bias in admissions it would therefore be best to delete the paragraph.

    • 回复: @Jim_T
  106. DB Cooper 说:
    @Alden

    “The universities make money. “America” doesn’t. American individuals lose money because their college places are taken by foreigners.”

    If well-qualified foreigners are taken in then just increase the class size. The marginal cost of increasing the class size (hiring more TAs, professors) is nothing compared to the additional tuitions the university is bringing in. The question is not whether the college places taken by foreigners. The question is whether after graduation these foreign students are allowed to stay and work in America. If they do then they are displacing American workers. But this is a different question.

    • 回复: @Alden
  107. Alden 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Hillel does a great job of outreach to jewish students . That’s why I’d trust their figures

    They might have a delicious generous servings free sabbath dinner every Friday. It’s a good deal for grad students and others who live off campus. Free movie night for the latest movies. There’s all sorts of free or very cheap excursions like rock concert tickets for \$15.00 instead of \$75. There are well paid part time jobs. And a chance to meet glamorous Israelis.

    Of course the best looking kids work at the Hillel tables in those join the clubs areas on campus

    Chabad even offers very inexpensive housing on some campuses although the Chabad lifestyle is required.

  108. Anon[425]• 免责声明 说:
    @Da Wei

    I say: On behalf of all of us past and present recipients of White Boy Scholarships (e.g. a job in a liquor store), I thank you for your intelligent resourcefulness and courage in exposing this insidious alternative reality

    There’s no doubt lots of Jews died in WWII, and there were exterminations. Nazis were planning to wipe out tons of Slavs too.

    But I wonder how many Jews died from general warfare and how many died by targeted extermination. Jews who died in the war would have died like most non-Jewish victims. From bombs, explosions, and mayhem in general. Tons of Poles died in the war because they were caught between Germans and Soviets, like mice being caught between two elephants. I’m thinking many Jews died this way too. If bombs fell from the sky, surely they didn’t just kill Poles and other non-Jews but Jewish civilians as well. Consider all the French civilians killed by US bombardment of towns around Normandy to clear the way.
    These Jewish deaths would be war deaths, not the result of extermination campaign. But I think what happened is that ALL Jewish deaths in WWII were attributed to the Holocaust. Supposing there was a town where 15,000 Jews perished. If 5,000 died from war deaths, 5,000 Jews died from extermination, and 5,000 died from other factors caused by hardships, then the correct assessment would be 5,000 Jews of the town were victims of the Holocaust. But if Jewish scholarship considers ALL Jewish deaths in WWII as the result of the Holocaust, then we have to pretend that all 15,000 died as a result of extermination. But that would be misleading.

    Much of Europe, especially the lands between Germany and Russia, was the worst place to be in WWII. Jewish or Gentile, your chance of getting killed by violence was huge. And many Jews surely died like the gentile population: the general violence of war. So, if we don’t include every Jewish dead in WWII as the result of the Holocaust, then one might argue that 3 million died by extermination, and the remaining 2 to 3 million died by general violence of war that affected non-Jews as well.

    Speaking of overblown numbers, the casualty list for the Nanking Massacre is also suspect.

    • 回复: @anon
  109. @Reuben Kaspate

    White Americans stole nothing.

    We accepted land as weregild for our murdered frontier families in a series of peace treaties.

    尽管如此, 所有 the tribes whose ethnogenesis occurred in a given country have certain inalienable claims on the resources of that country – in the case of the territory of the United States, that includes the two large new tribes (White Americans, Black Americans) and the many smaller ancient tribes (American Indians).

    • 回复: @Kratoklastes
  110. Anonymous[264]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    Why would you set aside 8% of admits for American Indians, given that they comprise ~1% of the U.S population?

    I don’t agree with your suggested percentages for the other racial/ethnic groups either, but the percentage for Amerinds seems especially out of line.

    维基百科:

    “According to 2008 US Census projections, those who are Native American and Alaska Natives alone number 3.08 million of the total US population of 304 million, or 1.01 percent of the nation’s entire population.”

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Alden
  111. JosephD 说:
    @DanFromCT

    I’m probably not in what you’d consider a 最佳 college: we’re ranked fiftysomething overall, with a strong STEM focus. So we punch above our weight in STEM disciplines and well below our weight in humanities, arts, and social sciences. I.e., we have a fair number of Chinese students. I’m not seeing a hostile Chinese population demanding extra help beyond what is normal. I’m known as a conservative, and have had conversations with folks who would have felt free to bring up this issue if they’d see it. We’re not seeing it.

    • 回复: @gotmituns
  112. Alden 说:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    English pioneers stole the land from the Indians and E European Jews who arrived 1880 to1925 stole the country from those who built the country including the Jews who arrived with the rest of the founding stock in the early 1600s.

    That’s such a Jewish arriviste comment.
    .
    You, whose family’s been in America 350 years have no right to be in America. But I, whose 8 great grandparents arrived in 1930 after the country was built have the right to rule the country.

    Like most descendants of the 1900 communist revolutionary Jews, you don’t know a thing about the history of American Jews. They’ve been here since the early 1600s. Some important towns, like Savannah were as much as 30% Jewish in the early days. Newport and the state of Rhode Island had big Jewish populations in colonial times.

    The colonial Jews were mostly Sephardic via the Netherlands Portugal England and the Caribbean Islands.
    Southern Jews did a lot of confederate financing of the civil war

    By 1750 German Jews began arriving with the German immigrants. The Lehman brothers arrived from Germany to New Orleans 1801 and soon became the 2nd biggest slave brokers in the country.

    By 1851 they were in San Francisco as bankers for the gold rush. They relocated to New York and became one of the biggest stock brokerages in the country. I believe Lehman saved the stock market from crashing at some point in the late 1800s by buying stocks to keep the prices up.

    There are some historical myths that really irritate me. One is that Black Irish thousands of survivors of the Spanish Armada stayed in Ireland and are responsible for every brunette Irish person.

    Another is that there were no Jews in America until 1880 when the poverty stricken wretched refuse survivors of the Cossack’s pogroms staggered onto Ellis Island and NYC where they encountered such discrimination, prejudice and anti Semitism they had no choice but to create the communist party to fulfill their Jewish obligation to reform America in their image

    For some reason the American Jews allowed themselves to disappear from history when the 1900s E European communist revolutionary Jews arrived.

    If the descendants of the British colonialists have no right to America, then the 1900 Jews have even less right to America. Go back to Russia.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Pheasant
  113. anon[252]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alden

    Like most descendants of the 1900 communist revolutionary Jews, you don’t know a thing about the history of American Jews. They’ve been here since the early 1600s. Some important towns, like Savannah were as much as 30% Jewish in the early days. Newport and the state of Rhode Island had big Jewish populations in colonial times.

    i think you’re right – i hear they were big in the slave industry

    Southern Jews did a lot of confederate financing of the civil war

    one even ran off with all the loot

    • 哈哈: Dan Hayes
    • 回复: @Alden
  114. Alden 说:
    @DB Cooper

    You just corroborated my statement.
    “ The universities make money”

    Obviously you’ve never been to a hospital and or don’t work in STEM.

    I worked in a top 10 university with a medical school. You should see the classes, half women 40 % foreign Asian. Half men 40% foreign Asian. The other 20% half men half women was mostly Hispanics and blacks. Generally the American White percentage was tiny. Maybe 10 women, 3 men in a class of 300.

    All the foreign Asians planned to stay in America Many had been parachuted in for high school on tourist visas. Then accepted in college and med school.

    Stop posting about things of which you know nothing. It’s not 195o when foreign students were mostly Europeans, Mexicans and S Americans who went intended to and went right back home when they graduated

    It’s 2018 and the west and east coasts are being colonized by Chinese the way Texas was colonized by Spanish and the east coast was colonized by England.

    330 people in America. We have enough 120+ IQ native born citizens capable of becoming Drs

    Virtually every foreign and immigrant Asian med student plans to stay in this country . Which means fewer and fewer native citizen Drs

    Same with STEM. The companies prefer foreign Asians because their visas depend on the employer.

    Your argument that foreign students don’t take a place that should go to an American makes no sense at all. Colleges only admit a certain number of students each year. Every foreigner admitted means one less American admitted.

    • 回复: @Western
  115. anon[252]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    Speaking of overblown numbers, the casualty list for the Nanking Massacre is also suspect.

    and why should i care any more for Jews than i do for the Chinese?

    as a white person in the U.S., the Chinese and other NE Asians generally have treated me well.

    and Jews? not so much

  116. @Erebus

    I live 55 miles from the border and have been visiting since 1967, but only to verify what I regard as the only useful measure of China’s development, stats. Anecdotes don’t cut it.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  117. Anonymous [AKA "Another American Idiot"] 说:

    To be fair, no one deserves anything. We all have to fight for what we get. The question, and problem, being why has the “white” race lost the will to fight? Just how intelligent and capable are the white gentiles who have let this “happen” to them?

  118. Alden 说:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    Rabbi Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandel would beg to differ with you. So would Stalin’s Jewish executioners who executed Other Jews.

    The merit vs affirmative action debate’s been going on for 55 years. Affirmative action won. The Asian vs Harvard lawsuit just started. No matter who wins there will be appeals and appeals.

    If anti affirmative action wins, Harvard will do what the state of California colleges have done after the anti affirmative action referendum won and was upheld in the courts. They just made up different words for discriminating against Whites and Asians.

    Until the trial is over let’s wait and see.

  119. Jim_T 说:
    @dearieme

    I am just going to come out and say this: I question Mr. Unz’s motives.

    He has made a very interesting analysis, and combines it with utterly irrelevant statements regarding Holocaust denial and Jewish mass murder. I can only think of two reasons you would do such a thing: You are somewhat autistic/Asperger’s, and you really do not understand the people you are trying to convince, or you are intentionally destroying your own argument to prevent any similar analysis from ever gaining traction. I naively would assume the former, but I certainly cannot rule out the latter.

    What this reminds me of is the movie “American History X”, in which Edward Norton’s character makes an entirely reasonable argument about black crime that is totally unrefuted by his mother’s boyfriend, who started the discussion. But at the end, he disrobes to reveal a swastika tattoo, informing the Jewish man that he is not welcome. The overall takeaway for the audience is that no matter how much sense he makes during his argument, he is the bad guy and everything he says must be wrong. I feel like Mr. Unz is doing that to himself. Is it intentional or accidental?

    Mr. Unz is at his best when dealing with numbers and primary sources. Dealing with secondary sources, he just seems to go off of who he thinks he can trust, and makes claims he would not necessarily make when doing primary source investigation. His 9/11 argument can, in my opinion, be boiled down to “well, bin Laden said he didn’t do it immediately afterwards, so it must have been the Jews!” These other articles do not play to his main strength, displayed here, and keep his arguments from being taken seriously by the mainstream community. Again, is that a feature or a bug?

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @anon
    , @jack daniels
  120. Alden 说:
    @anon

    What loot, confederate bonds?

    The Rhode Island ones were big in the slave trade but I didn’t want to upset the defensive chauvinist Jews who absolutely believe no Jew in the last 6,000 years ever did anything that was not the epitome of virtue and morality

  121. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @Sean

    I think Peterson and Cochran mistaken Jewish 楚兹帕 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeder_judge 为情报。

    Jewish intellectual ability does not fully account for Jewish accomplishment (e.g., Unz, 2012). Both theoretical evolutionary explanations (Cochran et al., 2006; MacDonald, 1994) for Jewish
    intellectual ability and Jewish social success suggest that Jews are highly socially effective. This social effectiveness may be a contributing factor to Jewish accomplishment and because the GFP is thought to reflect social effectiveness (Dunkel & Van der Linden, 2014); it was hypothesized that Jews would have a higher GFP than other groups. An extensive analysis of this hypothesis was performed by using three separate datasets and the hypothesis was supported in the analyses of each of these samples. – http://archive.is/NZ7Nk#selection-4269.0-4367.50

    Judge Alex Kozinski and Eugene Volokh in an article entitled Lawsuit Shmawsuit, note the rise in use of Yiddish words in legal opinion. They note that chutzpah has been used 231 times in American legal opinions, 220 of those after 1980.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutzpah#Contemporary_usage

    [更多]

    Kozinski was a well-known and one of the most prolific “feeder judges” in U.S. history: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/#comment-2584816

    Judge Court No. of clerks No. per year of service

    Feeder judges from 1962–2002

    Alex Kozinski Ninth Circuit 27 1.59 Retired in 2017 *

    Modern feeder judges (OT 2009–present)

    Alex Kozinski Ninth Circuit 10

    * “retirement on December 18, 2017, after a growing number of allegations of improper sexual conduct and abusive practices toward law clerks.[2]” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kozinski

    来源: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeder_judge

    • 回复: @Sean
  122. anon[252]• 免责声明 说:

    To be fair, no one deserves anything. We all have to fight for what we get. The question, and problem, being why has the “white” race lost the will to fight? Just how intelligent and capable are the white gentiles who have let this “happen” to them?

    hello fellow whites

    • 回复: @steinbergfeldwitzcohen
  123. Ron Unz 说:
    @Sean

    Could Jews do that do that with an advantage in IQ, even if it was far more than what that Lynn and Unz are crediting them with? While they are no doubt more cohesive, one person (Ron) seems to have hewing a quixotic way through the controversy virtually alone. There are a lot of gentiles with close to the IQ of Ron Unz yet none of them has got any traction with bringing anti gentile discrimination at Harvard to the public’s attention…Jews are inherently good at convincing by argumentation and winning people over to controversial viewpoints (new intellectual tastes and trends) far beyond what their IQ would suggest, and like anyone with a gift they enjoy doing what they are good at.

    Actually, given those generous and rather amusing remarks, I think I’ll repeat a somewhat relevant comment I made a couple of weeks ago:

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/aux-barricades-mes-enfants/#comment-2564669

    By the way, your tremendous effort, undoubtedly, what is your ego and financial motivation for it, dare we ask?

    Well, most of my motives are rather obvious ones, e.g. WW3 being a really bad idea. But there is an additional one…

    I’d say that the concentration of Jewish-activists in ADL/AIPAC/etc is an *例外* powerful political/ideological force as we can obviously see by the trajectory of the last couple of decades. So taking them on is a very worthy challenge.

    Probably most of you aren’t aware of it, but for decades the bilinguals were regarded as absolutely invincible, easily crushing all attacks against them from President Reagan on down. Then I came along in 1998 and completely broke them in twelve months, afterwards spending the next few years in mopping-up operations. I ultimately annihilated them so thoroughly that most people have forgotten they ever existed, let alone how enormously powerful they were.

    And just about the only major economic victory achieved by ordinary workers or labor unions in the last half-century have been the tremendously successful recent campaigns for huge hikes in the Minimum Wage. And frankly, I think my own efforts were a very substantial part of that success.

    So the extremely formidable power of the ADL and its allies is actually a rather tempting target…

    • 回复: @Dan Hayes
    , @crimson2
  124. peterAUS 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    I live 55 miles from the border and have been visiting since 1967, but only to verify what I regard as the only useful measure of China’s development, stats. Anecdotes don’t cut it.

    也这么觉得。

    Well, for some reason I guess some people prefer getting related info from somebody who’ve been LIVING there for, say, 20-30 years.
    Hard to find those types…oh, wait, it isn’t.
    I have three extended families in my street of that type. Kids go to the kindergarten in the neighborhood, elders often walk around and the bread winners travel China-here a lot. Chat with them every now and then.
    I have two acquaintances, of the same type,I chat with on weekly basis .
    Last, but not the least, people in two vege shops I buy groceries. Same type. Chatty people too.
    Just last week I did a brief project with a guy with extensive business contacts in China. Travels there and back a lot, knows people etc. Had two lunches together where he talked about China etc.

    Can’t recollect hearing from any of them, EVER, that… … you, for some reason, just love typing in here:

    …sometime between 2020-2025 every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. ..

    Actually, heard quite the opposite. Especially from those doing everything in their power to stay and live HERE.

    They must be clueless.

    Stats, a?

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
  125. All of the above schools were founded by Westerners, people who were not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. These 4 groups have no place in these institutions. These institutions must teach that the West is the best and the rest belong to second or third tier race groups.

    • 回复: @Truth
    , @Alden
  126. utu 说:
    @anon

    Could explain where from are the numbers and how the extrapolation “should have been” was made?

    Your numbers indicate that only at Dartmouth and Princeton J<W and 10%<J%W and 27%>J%>23%.

    • 回复: @anon
  127. Justsaying 说:

    I strongly suggested that a leading factor was the “negative pressure” of America’s overwhelmingly Jewish media and Jewish activist groups, which might respond harshly to any significant decline in Jewish numbers:

    It would be unreasonable to ignore the salient fact that this massive apparent bias in favor of far less-qualified Jewish applicants coincides with an equally massive ethnic skew at the topmost administrative ranks of the universities in question

    I suspect that the combined effect of these separate pressures, rather than any planned or intentional bias, is the primary cause of the striking enrollment statistics that we have examined above.

    Interesting conclusion(s) and a little overly cautious one in the face of such overwhelming evidence of admissions skewing in favor of Jews. Had that occurred in a single institution, that conclusion would be understandable, but still remain investigation worthy. But too many coincidences (student enrollment, enrollers themselves) in too many institutions for them to be adequately explained thus. Basically what smells like a duck, quacks like a duck is being timidly called a cat. Had the skewing been in favor of Latinos for example, such an aberration would be harder to explain, all else staying the same.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  128. Anonymous [AKA "Eglantz2"] 说:

    An excellent and courageous article.

    The control of organizations that design academic tests is also critical: nothing is better known in intelligence test circles than that the tests measure cultural familiarity as much as problem-solving ability, and can be readily skewed to favor any cultural group. With such devotion to their own group in university admissions, and a high proportion of Jews in the testing organizations, you can be sure that they have the tests skewed to benefit Jewish candidates.

    Admission officers and everyone else at Jewish-controlled universities know which prejudice will bring stable careers and promotions, publications and awards, and which will being mysterious negative evaluations. The same incentives make tribal tyrannies of every employing organization.

    I did a similar analysis of the control of US newspapers in the 1980s, based upon probability of ethnic heritage based upon surname, and found that 40-60% of US newspapers were then controlled directly by Jewish employees or directors, and this percentage was increasing rapidly. (except for the papers in Texas-Louisiana which had no obvious ethnic bias, some say because they are controlled by oil companies, and the papers in New Jersey which were almost all Italian). Some magazines like Consumer Reports had a balanced staff but the parent organization was almost entirely Jewish. Some like National Geographic appointed Jewish board members, who within a year or so had installed Jewish editors, who eliminated any coverage unfavorable to Israel, and almost invariably cited Jewish persons for any good conduct and non-Jews for bad conduct. Not a single person has believed that study, nor inquired for the evidence.

  129. bomag 说:
    @AaronB

    weak white admissions relative to Asians is clearly the result of weak motivation and less effort

    If our society didn’t go down the road of demonizing Whites, things would be different.

    We shouldn’t worry about competing with China. If they are so awesome, they can be awesome in their own country and trade with us.

    I’d be happy to live in a country of lethargic Whites vs a country of overachieving non-whites.

    Let’s not overstate the abilities of Chinese and other Asians vs traditional Americans. Our modern penchant for worshiping the Other is a far larger problem than any real ability difference.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  130. annamaria 说:
    @Kurt Gayle

    Agree. The Wars for Israel have become possible only because of the incessant squealing about the eternal and incomparable Jewish victimhood and because of the blackmail (both open and covert) of the critics of Israel. The blackmailing and squealing have created a taboo on questioning the Jews’ behavior, which precluded a wide discussion on the role of the Lobby in the ongoing mass slaughter in the Middle East.

    The surest way to illuminate the stinky night flower of the Jewish Power is to bring to light the facts of the Bolshevik dictatorship in Russia (millions were maimed and murdered on the Jews’ orders) as well as the facts of the Lobby’s ongoing assault on the freedom of information and freedom of speech with regard to holo-biz & Jewish State’ crimes.

    The Unz Review is unique in its fearless and highly informed search for truth. There are simply no other comparable sites fighting for human decency and against the pernicious tribalism.

    • 同意: Justsaying
  131. Anon[425]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    Why would you set aside 8% of admits for American Indians, given that they comprise ~1% of the U.S population?

    Those were purely hypothetical numbers. We could go down to 2% for the Indians.

    Anyway, my point is that IF the main worry about the recent lawsuit concerns the decline of black/brown numbers, it can be resolved by apportioning those groups fixed percentages. So, blacks need not worry since they will be assured 13% no matter what.

    But Jews, whites, and Asians must go by meritocracy for the remaining admission pool that is NOT fixed(for certain groups). Whether Asian numbers go up or down vis-a-vis Jew and whites, it won’t affect blacks and browns as their percentages will be fixed.

    My feeling is that Harvard makes a big thing about black-numbers-going-down to protect Jewish numbers. If US had no blacks and browns and ONLY whites, Jews, and Asians, it would be difficult for Jews to justify their high percentages. Whites and Asians might look into the system and realize that it’s rigged in favor of Jews. But if the system of rigging is generous toward blacks, a sacred untouchable group in America, then people will be afraid to raise questions about the rigging(that may also be used to favor Jews over whites and Asians). It is because the rigging is associated with blacks that people have been afraid to challenge it. Even now, NYT runs the story as a question of ‘what will happen to the blacks?’ Favors to blacks could serve as a shield to Jewish favors to themselves.

    Now, Jews are a sacred group too, so why couldn’t Jews justify AA in their favor? Because Jews have long argued that they’d been held back by defacto AA for dumb Wasp kids to the disadvantage of smarter Jewish kids. According to the Jewish Narrative, it was the superior brilliance and work ethic of Jews that made them a greater success in academia. So, it’d be embarrassing for elite schools to admit that Jews in recent yrs have been benefiting from something other than meritocracy.

    Still, there have been cases where Jewish sacredness shut up a lot of people about bad behavior. Why was Bernie Madoff able to get away with so much bad stuff? He was making lots of Jews rich or richer. He was seen as the guy who handled the money of Holocaust Survivor Elie Wiesel. He donated generously to Israel. Because his activities were associated with Good Works for Jews, he could do a lot of bad stuff behind the curtain. Same with Housing Bubble. Its shtick about fighting ‘racism’ in home loans allowed it get totally out of control. If you want to do bad stuff, find a moral cover.

    With Ivy League admissions, the moral cover is ‘we take in blacks but if you change the system, the poor noble blacks will suffer’.

    • 回复: @utu
  132. Alden 说:

    If anyone wants to read the Asians vs Harvard lawsuit; it’s Students For Fair Admissions vs Harvard filed November 2014 in the
    US District Court for the District of Massachusetts.

    Massachuetts is it’s own federal court district. The lead attorney for the plaintiff, Asian students is Edward Blum a common Jewish name Interesting.

    The plaintiff students for fair admissions has a website where you can follow the progress of the case

    There are 17 judges on the US district court. 3 are women 14 are men. Only one Jewish name I looked them up. One has a common Turkish name. Means yellow hair the name given to the millions of European children they enslaved over more than a thousand years.

    Most of the judges last names are standard Anglo German Celtic names, the same type of names of the presidents senators Congress critters and judges who obeyed the orders of their master Satan and imposed affirmative action discrimination on their own people

    I haven’t read any of it yet. Took a long time to find the name. News articles never write the names of lawsuits, just blah blah about a nameless lawsuit. Maybe it’s because the so called journalists don’t want anyone to read the lawsuit. Maybe they don’t know the name of the lawsuit themselves.

    • 回复: @Alden
  133. Truth 说:
    @attilathehen

    Yo Tills;

    I have a great video series for you…

  134. AaronB 说:
    @bomag

    I agree. I’d also rather live in a chilled out white country and just trade with China.

    I’m definitely not overstating any ability difference between the two races. I suspect they are of roughly equal intellectual ability though with a slightly different profile and the slight Asian edge is just the intense motivation and need to prove themselves. I suspect Jewish IQ is inflated for the same reasons, and may be declining as Jews no longer strive so hard.

    I say suspect – but I’m really rather certain of both of these 🙂

    Interestingly, whites had extensive dealings with Asians but the notion of smarter Asians was not widespread till well after WW2 and well into the decline of white motivation. What was noted about Asians was a willingness to work hard for little pay in bad conditions, and to be content with little – this was seen as the nature of the Asian threat, and to a certain extent this is still the case today.

    Anyways. I feel sorry for Asians (except the Japanese), but recognize that they have to go through this phase before they can get better. I wish them luck.

    In the meantime the challenge is for white countries to not become striver cultures in response, but to focus on really creating a worthwhile way of life finally that breaks with the past 500 years of expansion and progress that hasn’t really gotten us anywhere.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @utu
  135. annamaria 说:
    @JLK

    “…the point of the article would be better served by eliminating the Holocaust references.”

    — Why? The main point of discussion on the Jewish Power is the successful, profitable, and cynical use of holo-biz memes. If Shoah were real, the academic researchers in the WWII would not be losing their jobs, reputations, and some even their freedom.

    If you do not like the “Holocaust references,” you should address your concern to those applicants to the Ivy league Schools, who could not help but bringing up the stories of “Holocaust-survived” grandmas and grandpas. Even S. Brin (of Google billions) presents himself as a “refugee” from Russia, though it would interesting to know whether his ancestors belonged to the bloody Bolsheviks that terrorized Russia.

    Should we call the Russian tragedy the Russian Holocaust? What about Nakba?

    “Study of Holocaust survivors finds trauma passed on to children’s genes:” https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens-genes

    Time to sue the Jewish State (and the US) for the trauma inflicted to children of Palestine — as well as the children of Iraq, Syria, and Libya.

    Every time the Chosen mention Holocaust, they must be reminded about the horrors of the Bolshevik Revolution (make the “eternal victims” read “Two Hundred Years Together”) and about the traumatized, maimed, and murdered children of Gaza Ghetto.

    • 同意: anarchyst
  136. utu 说:
    @Anon

    If you want to do bad stuff, find a moral cover.

  137. annamaria 说:
    @Sean

    “While they are no doubt more cohesive…”
    — Let’s be more precise: How about the lack of scruples, dishonesty, self-promotion, and tribal loyalty that trumps professionalism and fairness?

  138. @Alden

    Quite interesting but you rarely fail to disappoint whenever one is tempted to regard you as reliable. A minor point at the outset is the ambiguity of your opening two sentences as I had just suggested that memorization would not be necessary.

    Then your gratuitous and completely erroneous identification of me as a Jew just tells the reader something about you

    Can you provide some simplifying information. I recall Year 12 maths classes at school where the last week’s before statewide competitive exams were used to practise on past years’ papers. If you did them all and were smart there wasn’t going to be much to take you by surprise. So how does what is described by you and others differ? Is the problem in the US that the current year’s exam questions are used time and again at different (and the same) locations so that it is possible for later takers of the tests to know *确切地* what the questions are? That sounds wrong because there would be many perfect results.

    Also, if the aim of those trying to beat the system is to learn what the current set of questions is why the need to resort to memorization? (BTW how many questions would there be and how many of them have to be answered for top marks?).

    • 回复: @Alden
  139. Alden 说:

    When I attached the link something happened and the comment disappeared. So I’ll write it again

    If you want to read it the lawsuit is;

    Students For Fair Admissions vs Harvard University It was filed November 2014 in the US District Court for the District of Massachusetts. Lead attorney for plaintiff is Edward Blum a common Jewish name. Interesting.

    17 judges on the court 3 women 14 men. 1 Jewish name. The others are Anglo Celt German names just like the names of the presidents senators Congress critters and judges who imposed affirmative action discrimination against their own people.

    Just one of the Judges. Allison Burroughs will hear the case and make the decision. She’s a woman, bad news for merit admissions.

    I haven’t read the case yet. The declaration complaint and response sections of the filing and response are a better way to find about a case than the journalist’s incoherence and retired judges blathering away in TV.

    Harvard Crimson has the best and most factual articles. Students For Fair Admissiins has website with daily reports.
    Whoever loses will file appeals.

    • 回复: @Alden
  140. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    …the slight Asian edge is just the intense motivation and need to prove themselves.

    对。

    …about Asians was a
    willingness to work hard for little pay in bad conditions, and to be content with little…

    还是。

    …the challenge is for white countries … to focus on really creating a worthwhile way of life …

    非也。

    As for this, though

    …the past 500 years of expansion and progress that hasn’t really gotten us anywhere.

    ……never mind.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  141. Dan Hayes 说:
    @Ron Unz

    罗恩

    I applaud all your efforts and they were (and are) successful (especially the unmentioned Unz评论),但

    Pride Goeth Before the Fall!

    Anyway keep on truckin’.

    • 同意: Ron Unz
  142. anon[143]• 免责声明 说:

    A Trump appointed judge to the New Orleans 5th circuit court of appeals, Justice James Ho, recently ruled against affirmative action in a court case in his district with the following remark:
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/22/trump-judges-doj-racial-preferences-education/

    No matter how well-intentioned the policy may be, injury is a mathematical certainty, because educational admissions is a zero-sum game: When a school offers admission based on a student’s race, it denies admission based on a student’s race. For every person you “help” due to race, you necessarily hurt another person due to race. And only by speaking plainly do we ensure fidelity to the Constitution.

    说够了!

    Ho went to Stanford and Univ. of Chicago law school, it’s nice to see he’s not a dumb liberal Kool-Aid drinking cuck like other elite school educated Asians like Bill Lee(who is now arguing 提供 Harvard), Ted Lieu, Theodore Chang, Sarah Jeong et al.

    Asians who continue to vote for DNC and support AA are the dumbest idiots of them all.

    • 回复: @Alden
  143. anon[252]• 免责声明 说:
    @utu

    yes, i should have clarified. i compiled that about 3-4 months ago.

    i found the yearly enrollment numbers (for 2014) on a website that appeared legit, then i just used the 6% number for Jews (National Merit semi-finalists) from the Unz article and iirc i used the lower number of 65% in the 65-70% range for non-jewish whites because i wanted to err on the side of caution.

    the estimated “actual” numbers were derived from Unz’s chart “Elite Undergraduate Enrollments 2007-2011” in which he lists estimated percentages for jews and non-jewish whites, etc. (this chart is reproduced in this article) I couldn’t find 2011 enrollment numbers so i used 2014, hopefully its a reasonably good approximation.

  144. Holocaust. Yes, shouldn’t have been referred to as it was. I forwarded the article to relations who are not Jewish but in laws of totally non religious and non tribal Jews and the only immediate response was to put question marks to the Holocaust references.

  145. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Who cares what you think of my reading of your post or my post My post was about personal observations and conversations in 15 years of working at a major university and 3 methods of cheating I was told about more than once.

    It was also about people I knew who worked for the test prep courses. You’re an Australian and constantly fail to understand American issues.

    For instance your high school exit exams admission to college exams have nothing to do with the nursing & doctor lawyer certification exams I wrote about

    A 12 grader is not taking a professional certification exam. Your 12 grade Australian experience is not the American professional certification exam.

    I and others assume you are because you are extremely defensive about Jews. 4 Jewish kids cheated on their college entrance exams and you defensively jumped right in.

    I wrote about the American test prep courses. Your Australian experience has nothing in common with them. When I took the American college entrance exams we were told not to study for them. That was America when I was 17. A different time and place than Australia when you were 17

    If you want to get into an argument go beat your wife

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  146. Alden 说:
    @anon

    Ted Lieu’s my Congress critter. Anyone not approved by the DNC could never become a congressman in this district.

  147. utu 说:
    @AaronB

    Jesuits recognized that Chinese and even more Japanese were very smart. Can’t find references now.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  148. anon[252]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alden

    I and others assume you are because you are extremely defensive about Jews. 4 Jewish kids cheated on their college entrance exams and you defensively jumped right in.

    its odd that some people seem to think the wealthiest, most privileged group on the planet need their help

  149. Alden 说:
    @Anonymous

    That’s just alone or full blood as it’s called. People with 3/4 1/2 and 1/4 blood are entitled to tribal money certificates and benefits. It’s complicated, just like their DNA.

    Since Harvard hired 1/1024 Elizabeth Warren they probably take anyone who checks the Native American box.

  150. Alden 说:
    @Alden

    Correction, Edward Blum isn’t an attorney. Some of the articles I read said he was the lead plantiff’s attorney. He’s not.

  151. AaronB 说:
    @utu

    For sure. But they did not consider them to be smarter than Europeans.

    Asians were always seen as highly civilized, intelligent, industrious – but the notion that they are smarter than whites probably dates from the 1980s, well after WW2.

    Even though, European decadence probably began in the mid-19th century, based on the writings of European thinkers of the time, so I would have expected notions of higher Asian intelligence to be widespread by the beginning of the 20th century.

    Bertrand Russell taught at a Chinese university for a year and certainly admired China more than any European country, but he didn’t think the Chinese were smarter on average, although he loved them.

    Sir Charles Eliot who wrote one of my favourite books on Buddhism, and said that life in the West simply is not satisfying and Buddhist Asia has created a way of life that makes people happy, with which I agree, wrote that Somalis were as intelligent as the British, and that the British couldn’t stand this 🙂

    Not really relevant, but I found it a fascinating remark while we’re on the subject.

    Many of these old books by Europeans on other parts of the world can be mined for fascinating perspectives and insights that shed some light on questions facing us today, and are fascinating reading in their own right.

    So many are free on kindle or archive.org these days, I heartily recommend whiling away a few lazy Saturday afternoons perusing them.

    • 回复: @utu
  152. Alden 说:
    @Alden

    Correction Edward Blum isn’t the lead attorney for the Students For Fair Admissions vs Harvard. He’s not even an attorney but some of the internet articles claimed he is.

  153. AaronB 说:
    @peterAUS

    Its all or nothing, you can’t pick and choose 🙂

  154. @peterAUS

    You guess some people prefer getting related info from somebody who’ve been LIVING there for, say, 20-30 years. In that case, why not get your news from old (Western) media hands?

    You’re a people person. I’m more interested in trends and data, and some people find that useful, too.

    You can’t recollect hearing from any of them, EVER, that… thing… you, for some reason, just love typing in here:…sometime between 2020-2025 every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. ..

    That’s right. That’s why you read the Unz Review. There’s a lot of stuff like that here.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  155. anon[143]• 免责声明 说:
    @SafeNow

    Excellent point. The “personal rating” is there to ensure Harvard recruits only narcissists, self-aggrandizing bozos, brown nosers, grade grabbers, pseudo artists and good little hypocrites good at playing the game, i.e. pretending they care about the world and the downtrodden.

    It’s main purpose is to screen out the nice, hard-working, humble, understated true geniuses. These people are not wanted at Harvard. Harvard prefers the loud mouth, chest-thumping, lying, cheating, good at sucking up type who will go places in law, banking and politics then contribute generously to the Harvard corporation.

    Little wonder Harvard’s academic achievement has gone down the toilet. Of the 49 Nobel Laureates who are either faculty or alumni at Harvard, 34 are in the sciences (medicine, Chem, Physics), of those, only 4 went to Harvard as undergrad, all before 1954. Ten others went to Harvard as graduate students(but elsewhere for undergrad), all before 1960. Harvard hasn’t produced a Nobel Laureate in the sciences since 1960. Their only prestige comes from all the Nobel winning faculty that they poached from other universities, who overwhelmingly did not attend Harvard.

    Harvard is an intellectual grave yard for the truly intellectually curious. The average grade is an A-. A black kid recently submitted a rap song as his senior thesis, got an A- and graduated with honors. They recently dumbed-down the introductory Physics class so more women and blacks can pass.

  156. Western 说:
    @Alden

    It’s amazing how many foreign doctors there are in this country now. It seems most have also gone to US medical schools, not less prestigious school in Latin America like it is made out to be.

    I don’t think there should be any foreign students, especially at state schools. It’s bad enough that a lot of the “American” students now are Asian, but we also get foreign Asians coming here to take places.

    I can’t believe how many Indian doctors there are here now.

    • 回复: @anon
  157. anon[143]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anonymous

    I agree about this. First generation immigrants (even if immigrated as children) should be counted as foreign students which is usually limited to ~10% of total enrollment, regardless of what passport they hold.

  158. anon[143]• 免责声明 说:
    @Western

    There are certainly a lot of Indian doctors in our area. Most of them are female and speak with a heavy Indian accent, indicating they were trained in India. I saw a few and was not at all impressed, now I actively avoid them.

  159. denk 说:
    @Anonymous

    a place that is devoid of empathy, common sense, and basic decency

    The Chinese dont do this to their allies.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060519070429/http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200605/200605040021.html

    Ooops, but 白色垃圾至上主义者 here call their Korean ‘allies’ 太监 !
    HHHHH

  160. utu 说:
    @AaronB

    This whole thing of “smarter than…” we are getting from the IQists brigade who reified their own construct who they control. So it is almost impossible to dislodge them form their entrenched position. Unfortunately they have created a lot memes that captivated many captives from among the subset with particular predilections, inclinations and tendencies. Most of them not really good like enjoying being a captive.

    I am pretty sure the Jesuits recognized some qualities in which Asians excelled. Jesuits were pretty deep and nuanced unlike the IQist bozos.

    As far as why Asians perform well it is because they are driven: ambitious, hungry and hard working with a tint of resentment to show that I am better. The same phenomenon described Jews in 19/20 century except that the resentment part is deeper, ideological and doctrinal. This makes Jews significantly different. Japanese could have similar qualities but their isolationism effectively extinguish the negative ones. Japanese do not have the doctrine of Tikkum Olam or LaGoyim to save the world and light onto nations (wink wink) by conquering it and enslaving it under Jewish supremacy.

    • 同意: AaronB, Druid
  161. Anon[185]• 免责声明 说:
    @A Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    You’re legitmising and rationalising your own dispossession. I do agree that there is an aversion against higher ed in conservative white circles, but that is precisely because they know about the ideological hostility such places have for them.

    If these places were more equal, and more welcoming, there would be far greater applicants. The problem, therefore, is not somekind of intrinsic lack of “white motivation” as much as anti-white hostility embedded in these institutions, just as there is in the American media. Both of whom are heavily Jewish in the administrator class.

    And Jews overpromoting their own kin to the tune of a 1000% overrepresentation above their actual performance is not “savvy”; it is crude ethnic nepotism and frankly anti-white bigotry. Stop being a cuck.

  162. peterAUS 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    You’re a people person. I’m more interested in trends and data, and some people find that useful, too.

    The first sentence is just funny.
    The second is related to HUMINT in certain trades. Or “Mark 1 eyeball”. Or “man on the ground”. Also to wishful thinking, delusion and simple plain propaganda.Some people find that useful too for sure, especially the last.
    This could come as surprise to you but you CAN have trends and data from HUMINT and the rest.
    You appear to be old enough to remember the DIFFERENCE between “trends and data” and defectors/assets/consular input with Warsaw Pact? No immigration then. Easier now.
    True, it was one party Communist world and this one is……oh wait.
    Would be funny, but, if money is good, why not? A man has to pay his bills.
    都好。

    There’s a lot of stuff like that here.

    Oh yes. We definitely agree there. Say…..40 % articles and 70 % comments, at least.

  163. niceland 说:

    Last Sunday, just before the legal proceedings began, the Times ran a major article explaining the general background of the controversy, and I was very pleased to see that my own past research was cited as an important factor sparking the lawsuit,

    I ran to the Times web to read the article and to feel the air in the comment section, but I found nothing. It seems the comment section is either closed or not available to me. In the article and also below are links to related articles on the Times web and most of them have close to 1000 comments? My 3 min research came up with another one without comments though.

    I am not a subscriber and don’t know how their comment policies work. Ideas?

    • 回复: @anon
  164. @Alden

    OVery odd. I don’t even remember the story of ” 4 Jewish kids cheating on their college entrance exams” and can’t imagine finding such anecdotes of any interest (they are certainly not statistically interesting) except to see how the telling of them says something about the teller. I like evidence of clear thinking and it appears that you have jumped to conclusions based on your prejudices rather than seeing that I was attempting to resolve what seemed a bit of a muddle. I remain interested, to simplify my interests even further, in knowing why a collection of past papers isn’t sufficient for the preparation for the various exams/tests. Also, why memorizing is necessary. (Don’t you get it? To stop someone taking a sufficient note or record of the questions out of an exam room would require extraordinary measures. What measures are taken?).

    I have tall blue eye’d blonde nieces who have been accepted by Ivy League colleges in the top 3. I gather their parents did research the SAT coaching business but they got in on excellent English A level results.

    • 回复: @Alden
  165. Anon[863]• 免责声明 说:
    @Jim_T

    Well reasoned if I may say so. But I don’t for a moment (Well not for more than a thousandth of a moment in this uncertain world) go for the idea that Ron is deliberately sabotaging his case.

    I do go for the idea that he is mildly Aspergerish (though not as rich as Michael Burry) as explanation for not instinctively withholding those Holocaust related remarks. But don’t we benefit from his peculiarities? 🙂

  166. Pheasant 说:
    @Alden

    ‘One is that Black Irish thousands of survivors of the Spanish Armada stayed in Ireland’

    Often this is a cover story for Sephardic emigrants to Ireland. There are naturally black haired people in Ireland which is why it works as a cover. In America there is the concept of the ‘black dutch’ which is similar Holland being a respite and Launching pad for Sephardic Jews.

    • 回复: @jilles dykstra
    , @Alden
  167. kiismerhe 说:
    @utu

    “I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article. I am sure of it! ”

    Ah, so you are brave enough to stand up against Jewish admissions officers but wouldn’t go against the ADL. Fortunately Ron Unz doesn’t feel that way.

    Those issues are not separate they are all part of the Jewish-non Jewish conflict and hopefully you and your kind won’t be able to control the conversation any more.

    • 同意: HeebHunter
    • 回复: @jack daniels
  168. CollDoll 说:

    Thank you Ron Unz. Now would you or someone please do similar research for other suspected inordinately jewish dominated professions, like Finance, Publishing, Law, Media, Medicine, Pornography, Liquor.

  169. @Anon

    Calm down. I agree that the atmosphere at elite universities tends to be hostile towards conservatives, and that that has serious negative consequences for the culture. But I was making a narrower point. Ron’s piece focused on bias in admissions specifically, not in the overall campus climate.

    Ron attempts to measure the ethnic compositions first of high-performing high school students and then of the undergraduate student bodies at elite universities. Set aside for a moment any potential methodological problems with his approach, and assume the disparities he presents do exist. My point was that Ron treats the disparities as ipso facto evidence of admissions bias. But that doesn’t account for the possibility that some groups make greater efforts to gain admission than others.

    • 回复: @anon
  170. @Pheasant

    There is little doubt that many Armada ships were blown by a SW gale past England, and tried to get back to Spain by sailing around Ireland, where quite a few ships ran on the rocks.
    Garrett Mattingly,“舰队”,波士顿,1959年

    • 回复: @Dan Hayes
  171. anon[201]• 免责声明 说:
    @Jim_T

    I am just going to come out and say this: I question Mr. Unz’s motives.

    if what he’s writing is true, why would his motives matter? its either true or its not

    What this reminds me of is the movie “American History X”, in which Edward Norton’s character makes an entirely reasonable argument about black crime that is totally unrefuted by his mother’s boyfriend, who started the discussion. But at the end, he disrobes to reveal a swastika tattoo, informing the Jewish man that he is not welcome.

    another hollywood movie where the jew is the victim? lol, quelle surprise

    let me know when (((they))) do something on the the Holodomor or on the mass murderer (((Genrik Yagoda)))

  172. Ron Unz 说:
    @Justsaying

    I suspect that the combined effect of these separate pressures, rather than any planned or intentional bias, is the primary cause of the striking enrollment statistics that we have examined above.

    Interesting conclusion(s) and a little overly cautious one in the face of such overwhelming evidence of admissions skewing in favor of Jews…But too many coincidences (student enrollment, enrollers themselves) in too many institutions for them to be adequately explained thus. Basically what smells like a duck, quacks like a duck is being timidly called a cat.

    Well, you might be correct, but I don’t think so, at least at the overwhelming majority of elite schools.

    First, apparently very few of the admissions officers are themselves Jewish. Instead, according to all accounts they tend to be pretty low-paid and ignorant, while being mindlessly left-liberal in their ideology. Maybe their superiors order them to admit Jews, but I doubt it.

    After my article came out, Harvard leaders were apparently so shocked at my Asian findings, they organized their own secret investigation. Would they have done that if they knew what was going on?

    As I explained in my big Meritocracy article, most Americans are *非凡的* ignorant about demographics:

    The last point is not a trivial one, since although our country is only about 13 percent black, according to a 2001 Gallup survey most people thought the figure was 33 percent, with the average non-white putting it at 40 percent.[104] This was roughly confirmed by the GSS respondents in 2000, who also believed that nearly 18 percent of Americans were Jewish, a figure more than eight times too large.[105] A very recent 2012 survey found that Americans believe Protestants outnumber Jews in this country by only 2.5 to 1, when the actual ratio is ten times greater.[106]

    If the ignorant admissions officers vaguely believe that Jews are 18% of the country, ensuring that the campus has roughly that percentage or perhaps somewhat more to make up for the Holocaust really isn’t so totally strange.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Justsaying
  173. anon[201]• 免责声明 说:

    As I explained in my big Meritocracy article, most Americans are *非凡的* ignorant about demographics:

    this is by design, of course

    up until a few years ago all i knew, as a white American, is that i was supposed to be ashamed of my race and ethnicity so i had no moral authority to be questioning affirmative action, college admissions, illegal immigration, fake refugees, etc

  174. Are we also considering the “Asian” propensity for nepotism, ethnic favoritism and a rather heavy dose of plain old greed (and not just in the empty suit demographic) that has worked wonders for the Indian (dot) American community especially in tech? The bright ones are not just bright as in German bright or Taiwanese bright, they are “gifted” (cunning) and “insightful” (Machiavellian) as well. And the not so bright ones are the same except the IQ part.

    Are we considering how it has and will continue to change the landscape of our nation when it comes to white collar professions. True merit will then be relegated to the same worn out shelf slot that “abstract” things like ethics and morality now have in the wider demographic. What then? What if your local tech bigwig has a wall street like atmosphere (at work) where you’ll be required to watch your back and measure your word and make calculated moves just to keep some ganesh barging in and shutting you out? How’s that sound? Fun eh? This is already happening across the country, decidedly more on the diseased coastal cities what with their penchant for street shitting shitlibs and (designated) street shitting CEOs. Will you, good sir (Mr. Unz) do a special “op-ed” on this “unique” threat? Something that has the potential to hollow us out from the inside?

    Now the action is decidedly moving inland (even steak chomping kansas is enjoying the fruits of “Asian” brilliance as we speak). All those useless white engineers have been swept aside in overland park to welcome the true indians back to where they belong (talk about coming full circle on this). If these oh so intelligent Asians are not regulated, we can look forward to being the new dalits in the land that our forefathers tamed. These “Asians” just don’t bring their “much vaunted” brilliance with them when they move here, they enrich us with their “culture” of bribery, nepotism, caste based snobbish arrogance. No wonder DC whores like leon fresco is making a killing right now, advocating for them. They both stick together like fish to water.

    And they don’t just hate us like those other stupid mud races do. They’ve figure it’d be a lot more fun to see us wallow in misery and poverty, drugs then to straight up kill us. As one ganesh in my previous org used to “joke around” that the only white thing he likes is a white p****. 不开玩笑。

    So, how about some Indian food for lunch?

    • 回复: @utu
    , @peterAUS
    , @anon
  175. utu 说:
    @CrazedIndiot

    I concur with your description and concerns with Indians. From my experience and observations it does not look good.

  176. @Ron Unz

    尊敬的Unz先生,
    Your prodigious investigations of numerous important topics are awe-inspiring and a great service to the nation. But by throwing in the bit about the Holocaust being to some degree a fabrication you make the article unusable for many who could otherwise cite it to good effect. Maybe you could create a ‘sanitized’ version of it restricted to bias in admissions.
    I try to keep an open mind on the Holocaust. Growing up in NYC I saw many men and women on the subway with numbers tattooed on their arms. That is not proof they were in line to be gassed but it does count in favor of a persecution narrative. That is not to deny that other groups have been persecuted perhaps even by Jews.
    Late one night there were some girls on the campus radio station who might have been a little high and one of them was saying, Please, whatever you do, never forget the Holocaust! I confess I found this refreshing though I doubt they were ever allowed on the air again.

    Thank you again for your ground-breaking research on topics that desperately need it.

    JD

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Druid
  177. Oemikitlob 说:
    @Anon

    Maybe the correct solution is to let these institutions succeed or fail on their own merits?

    Education is not a “right”. If a certain person or group believes a certain student shows promise in a certain field, let that person or group work out the details of the prospective students agreement. If the prospective student doesn’t agree with the terms, they can either find a job or find a sponsor(s) with terms they find mutually agreeable.

    • 回复: @anon
  178. @Jim_T

    I confess I too was taken aback by the Holocaust comment. I have no problem with wanting to challenge official dogmas, but it makes his article unusable by anyone wishing to argue that white gentiles deserve fair representation in the new America.

    Self-sabotage is certainly a possibility. It wouldn’t be surprising if Mr. Unz has some eccentricities; many gifted people do.

    I hope he will produce a more concise version without the peripheral issues.

  179. @kiismerhe

    Suppose your husband beats you and he is also a Russian spy. Do you make these accusations in one stroke? If your immediate goal is to get the authorities to intervene on your behalf it would obviously be prudent to separate these concerns, one of which is concrete and demonstrable and the other of which requires a lengthy and problematic investigation. Eh?

    Now I suspect YOU are working for the Illuminati!

    • 回复: @kiismerhe
  180. Alden 说:
    @DanFromCT

    Jewish kids don’t do prep for college entrance tests at the Hebrew schools which teach only Hebrew and religion

    The majority only take those courses 1 or 2 years till they are 13.

    There is nothing to prevent the goyim from spending \$ 30 apiece on some college entrance test prep books. There are several publishers. Spend \$150 get them all and make your kids memorize every version of every question. Make sure they know the math formulas perfectly so they don’t have to think about the formula, just do the problems during the test.

    Or spend \$1,000 or whatever taking the test prep course with classes and teachers. You’re going to spend a fortune in college anyway.

    Many high schools offer SAT ACT prep courses free.

    We goyim aren’t paralyzed morons overwhelmed by Jewish geniuses.

    Post 34 is schocking though and a gross violation of the findings in Griggs vs Duke Power “ disproportionate representation is in and of itself clear and present evidence of discrimination”

    On the other hand, the Irish last name 1/2 Korean grandson of a friend took one of those low costs birth right Israel tours. He qualified on the grounds that one grandparent is Jewish so he’s 1/4 Jewish. No proof was required.

    The last Bar Mitzvah in the Jewish side of the family occurred sometime in the mid 1950s. The kids Jewish father was baptized first communionized? and raised catholic/ atheist. He’s attending a state college in his hometown.

    Were blacks so grossly under represented in college admissions as the figures in post 34 the colleges would have been sued and fined decades ago.

  181. traducteur 说:

    An admirable analysis! The strong light of truth. Mr. Unz is incomparable.

  182. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    First, apparently very few of the admissions officers are themselves Jewish. Instead, according to all accounts they tend to be pretty low-paid and ignorant, while being mindlessly left-liberal in their ideology. Maybe their superiors order them to admit Jews, but I doubt it.

    Looks like a situation where the dumb goyim can be played any number of ways without an explicit order. Jewish nepotism is legendary and it’s obviously working here as well as a casting process for an Adam Sandler movie.

    After my article came out, Harvard leaders were apparently so shocked at my Asian findings, they organized their own secret investigation. Would they have done that if they knew what was going on?

    It’s extremely unlikely that the Jews among them were shocked. Almost all of them can recognise other Jews better than me – and my Jewdar is nuclear-powered.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
  183. Ron Unz 说:
    @jack daniels

    Your prodigious investigations of numerous important topics are awe-inspiring and a great service to the nation. But by throwing in the bit about the Holocaust being to some degree a fabrication you make the article unusable for many who could otherwise cite it to good effect. Maybe you could create a ‘sanitized’ version of it restricted to bias in admissions.

    That sounds like a perfectly reasonable request. Frankly, it seems to me that almost the entire content of my article is so “controversial” that leaving out that one paragraph won’t make all that much difference, but I suppose you know your audience better than I do.

    I’d normally be rather reluctant to do this sort of thing, but since quite a number of commenters have raised exactly the same issue in such strong terms and the offending paragraph is entirely extrinsic to everything else in the article, it’s easy enough for me to produce an “expurgated” version for all of you to distribute:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/xxamerican-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    I’ve also blocked comments on that version since lots of commenters tend to also raise so many “controverial” issues.

    Anyway, good luck with promoting it elsewhere. I suspect you’ll need it…

    • 同意: utu
    • 回复: @jack daniels
  184. peterAUS 说:
    @CrazedIndiot

    同意。
    特别是:

    … “Asian” propensity for nepotism, ethnic favoritism and a rather heavy dose of plain old greed (and not just in the empty suit demographic)..

    … they are “gifted” (cunning) and “insightful” (Machiavellian) as well. And the not so bright ones are the same except the IQ part…

    ..their “culture” of bribery, nepotism, caste based snobbish arrogance.

    • 回复: @CrazedIndiot
  185. Ron Unz 说:
    @Anonymous

    It’s extremely unlikely that the Jews among them were shocked. Almost all of them can recognise other Jews better than me – and my Jewdar is nuclear-powered.

    Obviously no one in the academic community was shocked by the very heavy Jewish enrollment figures—after all, they’d been on the Hillel website for many, many years and heavily emphasized in Karabel’s book and lots of others. I’d mentioned it in my 1999 WSJ op-ed.

    But absolutely *每个人* (including myself!!!) was totally, totally shocked by the rather unimpressive current academic performance of Jewish HS students, which produced the ridiculous over-representation I describe. After all, if Jews were 19% of America’s highest-performing students and 25% of the Harvard classes, nobody would really be making that much of a fuss.

    I’ve actually been quite friendly for many years with some of America’s most prominent academic scholars, including those in sociologically-related fields, both Jewish and Gentile, both at Harvard and elsewhere, and all of them were totally, totally shocked. I’m absolutely sure Karabel was shocked, and he’d published a 700 page book on Jewish admissions issues, the most definitive historical study ever done.

    With regard to Asian Quotas, almost everyone knowledgeable suspected it (except maybe the see-no-evil top Harvard administrators), but I do think I’m the first person who more or less proved it…

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  186. Ron Unz 说:
    @Anonymous

    Looks like a situation where the dumb goyim can be played any number of ways without an explicit order.

    I think you’re ignoring just how astonishingly ignorant lots of those admissions officers seem to be. For example, by all accounts Harvard’s admissions office is greatly superior in quality to the rest of the Ivy League, let alone lesser colleges. But as I noted, in a book published by a longtime Senior Harvard Admissions Officer “he appears to describe Duke, Northwestern, and Rice as being members of the Ivy League.”

    If he was basically a “very dumb jock” who never even knew which colleges were in the Ivy League (or didn’t bother proofing his own book), I don’t doubt he might make all sorts of ridiculous admissions decisions without anyone even needing to “play him.”

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  187. Ron Unz 说:

    Incidentally, I should mention one very interesting piece of information I was provided a couple of years after publishing my Meritocracy article. I’m not aware of any solid evidence proving it, let alone quantitative data, and since it’s basically “hearsay” I’ve never included it in any of my writings, but I did hear it from a couple of reasonably reliable people active in the Harvard community, so I think it’s probably true.

    显然,一个 *巨大的* factor in Harvard admissions over the last couple of decades has been athletic ability, basically being a really great Lacrosse player or Hockey player or even Football player.

    Allegedly, something like 15-20% of all admissions are largely controlled by the various athletic coaches and their departments. And apparently, the overwhelming majority of these athletic-admits are white. Back in my day, I doubt it was more than about 5%, and mostly restricted to local Boston-area athletes.

    In some respects, the notion of Harvard having gradually become an athlete-school is almost more shocking than anything else. I haven’t been following the details of the Boston trial, and I wonder if any of this has been now confirmed by actual hard evidence.

    • 回复: @gregor
    , @Anonymous
  188. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    这是一个公平的观点。

    I think it’s the age-old “boy-king” syndrome. An old patriarch wins the kingdom but his descendants… descend with each subsequent generation into fat and lazy stupor. His instinct was to make them as safe and prosperous as possible but too much safety and luxury ended up creating weakness and hubris.

    That’s why I don’t believe – contrary to popular opinion – that the Tribe’s famous, hyper-nepotistic group strategy is “good for the Jews” in the long run.

    • 回复: @Oemikitlob
    , @Sean
  189. Sean 说:
    @FKA Max

    . Both theoretical evolutionary explanations (Cochran et al., 2006; MacDonald, 1994) for Jewish intellectual ability and Jewish social success suggest that Jews are highly socially effective.

    Cochran suggests no such thing, he merely says Jews are cleverer due to the historical reproductive fitness of the cleverest business-people, in a community where all were in business and practiced endogamy. He and Peterson think that explains everything.

    • 回复: @FKA Max
    , @FKA Max
  190. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I don’t doubt he might make all sorts of ridiculous admissions decisions with anyone even needing to “play him.”

    But the results are 不是随机的 so the game exists and someone is getting played. I’m gonna go on a limb here and propose that the Jews are playing the goyim.

  191. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @Sean

    谢谢,肖恩。

    I’m aware of this and this is a good rebuttal paper on his theory, which I have been quoting and citing for a while:

    How Jews Became Smart:
    Anti-“Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence”

    “I do not dispute that unusually low intelligence would be an obstacle in business. My point is that there is no evidence that it took anything more than average intelligence to make more money, if those other factors just discussed were working in one’s favor. There is nothing in this record to suggest that those fecund few at the top were any smarter than those staff members who labored below them, or that they had acquired their wealth by special perspicacity. NHAI argues that financial success was based on higher intelligence, that those with greater g prospered and disproportionately reproduced, overcompensating for the undeniable liability of carrying alleles for harmful conditions, and pulling the entire population’s IQ upward. A closer look at Ashkenazi society makes this scenario extremely unlikely.”

    http://archive.is/wfpNR#selection-10653.0-10713.57 并且 https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/#comment-2584982

    I have also been arguing for a while here in the Unz评论 comment section that highly “Social Darwinist” societies and groups, like the Jews and the Chinese, have selected not so much for intelligence as for more anti-social traits:

    看起来非常苛刻和“社会达尔文主义”的环境和文化并不一定会专门选择情报,甚至可能不会占主导地位,而是他们大多会选择冒险,进取,无情,即精神病和相当反社会的特质。
    https://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#comment-1866207

    我认为,所有在政府,企业,军事等领域担任高级职位的申请者和候选人,以及名校(大学和学院)的名校(大学和大学)都是高级政府职位的跳板。以及精英的主要招募理由,都应同时进行智商和精神病检查表的测试。

    我认为,这将确保拥有更真正,更扎实的精英管理人才。

    https://www.unz.com/forum/white-students-unfair-advantage-in-admissions/#comment-1754583

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  192. Oemikitlob 说:
    @Anonymous

    @罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz),

    “That’s why I don’t believe – contrary to popular opinion – that the Tribe’s famous, hyper-nepotistic group strategy is “good for the Jews” in the long run.”

    I concur. Peace, diplomacy and free-trade with all, for one example, can easily undermine the above-mentioned dynamic.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  193. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @Sean

    This article by Mr. Unz is a perfect example of the “Jewish chutzpah” I was talking about:

    维亚康姆首席执行官菲利普·道曼(Philippe Dauman)的智商仍为260

    https://www.unz.com/runz/when-viacom-ceo-philippe-dauman-still-had-an-iq-of-260/

  194. @anon

    Is that the same advice Jews have given to blacks? Course not. They are encouraged to blame whitey.
    Western civilization has been attacked from inside, by a group of determined subversives who get money first then use it to acquire power. Rules, ala W Civ, mean nothing. Only one rule matters: what’s good for the Jews.
    叛国罪审判。
    绞刑
    Mass expulsions
    美国革命2.0

  195. Alden 说:
    @Pheasant

    Whatever the cover story is, I find it as irritating as the “there were no Jews in America until 1880 and we all came through Ellis Island “. Look at Sean Connery I supposed his dark coloring came from an Armada ship that made it to Scotland.

  196. Sean 说:
    @Anonymous

    Robert Plomin in his recent book, 蓝图:DNA 如何让我们成为我们自己, says that he did not think TV watching would be influenced by genes. However, it turned out it was highly influenced, because most people let their children watch as much TV as they liked.

    Richard Lynn and Satoshi Kanazawa in their paper of a decade ago How to explain high Jewish achievement: The role of intelligence and values

    The two principal theories that have been advanced to explain this are that Jews have high intelligence and, alternatively, that they have cultural values that promote success. We review the evidence and present new data suggesting that high intelligence is the more important of these two factors.

    但是只有 联系, it was not always that way.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  197. @Ron Unz

    Thank you for producing a less provocative version! My intuitions may be wrong, but the history of cultural change I have witnessed since the 1960s suggests that ideas that are outrageous now can gradually evolve into acceptable dissent and from there into consensus opinion. The following argument seems sufficiently inoffensive to be practically usable IMO:

    The white middle class has been economically and culturally harmed by the changes of the last several decades.

    These changes have been promoted or defended by rhetoric that focuses on the suffering of victim groups and the need to atone via preferential treatment.

    Whites are seen as victimizers and non-whites and sexual minorities as the victims.

    Therefore non-whites are to receive preferential treatment at the expense of whites.

    But, where college admissions are concerned, white privilege disappears when we distinguish Jews from (other) whites. Jews are rightly protected against discrimination, but non-Jewish whites are not. This forces affirmative admissions of other groups to come from the pool of non-Jewish whites. The result is that non-Jewish whites are actually under-represented by a large factor.

    This discrimination against a group of low to middle income (“the deplorables”) is not consistent with the altruistic rhetoric used to promote it. It may seem odd to worry about the lot of white gentiles but the facts are there to prove they have suffered considerably from Rainbow Coalition social policy prolonged over several decades.

  198. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    A levels?????? Your nieces got into an American Ivy League school with just one English A level? ??? They didn’t take the American SAT and ACT college entrance exam??? Those exams are given world wide including Australia in numerous locations

    No one gets into an American college without taking the SAT ACT that tests both verbal and math ability. If, if an American college accept the English exams they would expect at least an O level math.

    But American colleges don’t accept the English A & O level exams because they are subject exams

    By the way, at what so called American Ivy League college did your nieces get accepted?? Are you aware that Ivy League is not a term for top college but a league of only 8 colleges in America???

    I just looked it up.All 8 American Ivy League schools require the basic SAT test of verbal and math ability. So your nieces could not have been accepted into an American Ivy League college with just one A level in English

    This discussion is about the American college admission process, not the British or Australian college admission process. Whatever that you took for college admission is completely irrelevant. Your nieces English A levels didn’t get them into an American Ivy League college unless they took the math and verbal SAT and had numerous sports band music and other extra curricular activities. plus charity work and political activities.

    That’s what it takes to get into an American college, not one English A level.

    Different countries, different system.

    Our college entrance exam preparation courses aren’t a high school math teacher or going over the prep books.
    They are big multi million dollar nationwide companies. The teachers of those courses aren’t tutoring for extra money. It’s a career, secure and well paid

    The teachers often middle aged take the tests. They are assigned to memorize 5 questions 92 to 97 maybe. They take the tests again and again except for the professional credential tests which they purposefully fail so they can take it again and again.

    The companies compiles a new course based on the memorized questions and the teachers employed by the companies teach the course.

    That’s how it’s done in America?

    By the way, which American Ivy League colleges did your nieces get into with just an English A level???

    Different countries, different college admission tests and requirements.

    My English relatives tell me they have extensive preparation and studying for their A & O level exams. They’re a lot easier than the SATs because they’re subject exams. The kids pick a subject they’re already good in and study it for the exam.

    The SATs require both math and English ability.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @dearieme
  199. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @Oemikitlob

    Actually, my view is that the Tribe’s hostile and nepotistic strategy is very effective at undermining goyim societies on (almost) all levels.

    But it’s also a dysgenic crutch which gradually weakens the chosenites to the point of failure – usually when the goyim figure out that they’re being ruled by incompetents. It’s happening now, I believe.

  200. Anonymous[738]• 免责声明 说:
    @Sean

    High Jewish intelligence is a(nother Jewish) 神话. Every area they’ve infiltrated (MSM, banking, entertainment, education etc.) is experiencing cascading failures in direct proportion to the number of chosenites in charge. Colour me unimpressed.

    • 回复: @aba
  201. kiismerhe 说:
    @jack daniels

    Did I find out that she was a Jewish spy while she was beating me? No? Was it before? Than, I guess I have already reported it before.
    Just as Ron Unz has already published his findings about the Holocaust earlier. And now added that just to make the picture complete.

  202. Alden 说:
    @niteranger

    I looked at the dockets and the latest October 15 filing. There are dozens of friend of the court briefs by the endless Harvard Radcliffe non White lgbtu feminazi progressive clubs including Asian clubs.

    I read a few. Harvard will lose its precious diversity. Same old same old.

  203. @Alden

    I haven’t time to read all this no-doubt interesting and informative post but hasten to say that the A level results which (with interviews – which probably helped as they are both good actors) got them into top Ivies were 4 A* results (they had previously got 10 and 11 A*s at GCSE level). I am not sure whether their school offered IB as an alternative to A levels but it is my private view that IB is preferable because it requires maths and my nieces didn’t have the maths required to do particular courses at Oxford or Cambridge that I would have recommended to them and their parents. No doubt if they had done maths SAT they would have scored quite high though not blitzed it as they would with the verbal. And, yes, just to be provocative, they have a couple of Jewish professors’ genes from the in-laws…. Funny that they are tall blonde and blue eye’d 🙂

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Alden
  204. anon[189]• 免责声明 说:
    @CrazedIndiot

    Agree. America’s future looks a lot like India.

  205. Dan Hayes 说:
    @jilles dykstra

    吉尔斯·迪克斯特拉:

    Unfortunately, I believe that many Armada shipwreck survivors upon making land were slaughtered by the native Irish peasantry (who, of course, were Catholic). A very sad and inglorious ending with Mother England triumphing once again!

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @anon
  206. Ronnie 说:

    Sincere thanks to Ron for spelling it out and making it all so clear. Ron Unz is a warrior I would be happy to support in any battle. I was at Yale in 1967 as a foreign Protestant student from Ireland – I soon figured out that at least a quarter of the undergrads were Jewish and even more of the grad students and faculty – I did not know many administrators at that time so I could not say anything about them. This situation at Yale was a shock to me and culturally it felt like racism where I was the oppressed. When I mentioned this to anyone I was treated coldly like I was a holocaust denier – I found this very blatant in a toxic way and it never left my mind for the last 51 years – so happy now to see all my suspicions confirmed by real facts. I have been a Prof at several US medical schools all this time and saw this same phenomenon at many institutions. Very depressing at times.

    Anyway, I fought the good fight – I won some and I lost some – it could have been worse. I guess that my question is whether the Jewish phenomenon will be mentioned at the Boston trial by the Asian side? I read some of the consultants reports prepared for the trial and did a word search for Jew – I did not see the word Jew mentioned but maybe I missed it. Most of the Chinese I have spoken to do not understand that it is not the whites but maybe the Jews who are keeping them out. They all need to read Ron’s articles.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Anon
    , @anon
    , @denk
  207. Anon[863]• 免责声明 说:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    Tell that to Rabin’s widow and the families of Jews killed in the King David Hotel…..

  208. anon[572]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ronnie

    This situation at Yale was a shock to me and culturally it felt like racism where I was the oppressed. When I mentioned this to anyone I was treated coldly like I was a holocaust denier….

    wow, that’s hard to believe

  209. anon[572]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I haven’t time to read all this no-doubt interesting and informative post…

    but somehow you’ve got plenty of time to spew more drivel

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  210. @peterAUS

    I’ve heard Australia is slowly waking up to this “model minority” and has completely shuttered the 457 “high skilled immigration” visa that was primarily used by our “friends” from the land of kamasutra (and gang rape off late). Is that true?

    If yes good for you. We are quite late and deep in the quicksand as it is. A fracturing society, joblessness for many otherwise skilled Americans, a looming race war what have you! I’m trying my best to awaken as many whites as I can about these “foreign talents” as it is, especially the sneaky desi ones. But I’ve experienced that most outside of tech are rather indifferent to them since they radiate a “harmless if creepy” aura unlike some others. Well, see what they’ve done to truck driving in canuckland. It doesn’t matter what industry they get into. Eventually it all ends up the same.

    It doesn’t have to be like this though. Most americans were indifferent to “skilled immigration” especially from “harmless” places like India until many (in tech) spent close to two decades with them (surrounded by sneaky hostile haters who smelled like they just took a dip into the ganges). Unfortunately we woke up when it was a little too late. The only silver lining to this is that H1B is a dirty word for most red pilled folks. I just wish more whites recognize how big a threat this “harmless” demographic poses to the well being of our people. Perhaps Unz would be kind enough to put his exemplary writing skills into this

  211. @anon

    None of which you wasted your time on, happily for both of us.

    • 回复: @anon
  212. peterAUS 说:
    @CrazedIndiot

    I’ve heard Australia is slowly waking up to this “model minority” and has completely shuttered the 457 “high skilled immigration” visa that was primarily used by our “friends” from the land of kamasutra (and gang rape off late). Is that true?

    是和否
    The 457 “visa is now closed to new applications”, correct, and the place IS slowly waking up.
    Still, the immigration IS going on. Lawyers, consultants, ways around and such.

    [更多]

    ….I’m trying my best to awaken as many whites as I can about these “foreign talents” as it is…

    祝你好运。

    I hear you. But, and a big BUT, isn’t that how business is supposed to operate? Capitalist society in general?
    Yes, I know, this isn’t either place or time to talk about that, but I just don’t buy, for a nanosecond, that the problem will be fixed unless we, somehow, try to address underlying issues.

    It, as it always has been, boils down to CHEAP LABOR. Simple two words that describe everything.
    Immigration has always been about that, in its heart.

    Indian/Asian engineer will work twice longer, for half a pay in tech. Fact.
    Now…if you were business owner and/or shareholder, what’s not to like?
    Even if you are a manager, supervisor, whatever. Those guys will always be more…how to put it…..manageable..than the locals. Always. Again, what’s not to like?

    Just recently I had, during a brief contract, exposure to such a thing, again. And it got, apparently, worse from just a couple of years ago.
    For example, you have a guy with tech Masters degree, from Western university, in his mid thirties, working for almost minimum wages. Any overtime, no problem. Any work, no problem. Any instruction given by a team leader, manager, he tries to do it 100 %.
    What’s not to like, then?

    Now, true, he, for cultural reasons, is NOT quite equal in delivery, as his Western counterpart, especially communication, customer services part etc. But, that’s what the team leader/manager is for.

    You simply can’t beat that from the team leader/manager/CEO/owner/shareholder perspective.
    那就是 所有 there is, really.

    Your choices are narrow. Become, as a tech, a team leader/manager….owner even better…shareholder the best.
    Or, sorry to say, change job/vocation. Go to sales/marketing, or something similar.
    Where language and culture win.
    Failing all that, the only way to keep employed is to accept worsening work conditions with less pay. True rat race to the bottom.
    Class war, mate. Dirty words for “right” side of political spectrum, Americans in particular. Free will.

    For THAT to change, well, it’s totally different conversation and, honestly, at the moment, just academic.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @Wizard of Oz
  213. @CrazedIndiot

    Sadly, Australia doesn’t have a Silicon Valley where, as I understand it the main complaints about Indians stem from. But Australia does apparently have a considerably higher proportion of its population born in India than does the US. It is hard to take your fears about Indian impact on the US generally seriously when one looks up the figures – maybe now 1 per cent of the US population.

    I have no great experience of working with Indians though I have had plenty of well informed warnings about investing in India, but, thinking of them as immigrants, I tend to regard them as an offset to the approximately equal numbers of Chinese (including diaspora) in Australia and, also, as part of the keeping up of national average IQ and keeping down the average age. What needs to be added is that they come from a hugely various home population. I would need convincing that Sikhs, Rajputs, Brahmins, Tamils, Punjabis etc are going to gang up together against others whatever the stories of nepotism you can produce from Silicon Valley.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @CrazedIndiot
    , @Alden
    , @aba
  214. Anon[863]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ronnie

    I posted reference to the original article and, later, to this one as comment on a London Times article on the Harvard antidiscrimination litigation reprinted in another Murdoch paper. Only the first comment contained the word “Jew” or “Jewish” but neither comment was allowed through by the moderators. Maybe it has something to do with the Murdoch’s wrapping up sale of most of their businesses to Disney. Any other guesses?

    • 回复: @Ronnie
  215. peterAUS 说:
    @peterAUS

    Just to complete the thought, so, no ambiguities re immigration.

    Yes, true, we have the “tribe” agenda re White societies, Western in particular.
    Yes, true, we have “prog” agenda re the same.
    And…hahaha….that’s where all conversations stop.

    另一个 group too: business.
    That one, on “alt” sites, for…hehe…some reasons….people don’t discuss/dissect much. Naturally.
    好笑吧?

  216. peterAUS 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I have no great experience of working with Indians….

    …I would need convincing that Sikhs, Rajputs, Brahmins, Tamils, Punjabis etc are going to gang up together against others whatever the stories of nepotism you can produce

    说得通。

    That’s fine. Those experience in the former have no need for convincing. Tech people in particular, regardless of skillset/experience.

    True, they don’t “gang up”. They just work in their own ways, with related working conditions and pay. 有趣 方法。

    • 回复: @CrazedIndiot
  217. @peterAUS

    Certainly my #215 in reply to CrazedIndiot doesn’t cover much of the ground. As you say, if you are an investor in a company employing lots of technically skilled people what’s not to like about them keeping costs down? Have you any idea whether my sanguine view of Australian immigration including a high proportion of (significantly) above average IQ ethnic Chinese and Indians is measurably right or wrong in expecting it to keep Australia safe for capitalists and reasonably smart at continuing to be productive and prosperous when coal and iron ore no longer do what gold and fine wool did for 19th century Australia?

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  218. @Heros

    The first two phenomena you mention are not ‘cheating’; they are test prep. The third example is obviously cheating – it’s just an SAT-version update of the 宋飞 “George’s IQ Test” storyline from the episode entitled “咖啡厅“(1991)。

    Kaplan (and other such products) is ‘pure’ test-prep – basically, doing extra, targeted homework that claims to be tailored to improving SAT scores. Kaplan sought the views of recent test-takers in a bid to refine his product – effectively presaging what anybody with half a brain should do (i.e., find recent test-takers, and see if there are consistent stories about particularly difficult questions: hard to do for high school, but very easy – and common – at university level).

    The second non-cheating thing (the fact that one SAT might have been a duplicate of an earlier international test) is the kind of thing that every diligent undergraduate should do if they are able… namely, to obtain as many past exam papers as possible, in an attempt to ‘forecast’ what questions are likely to appear on this year’s exam. If the exam is replicated word for word, 奖金 (so long as yu prepare… no use having the exam and then not preparing anyhow).

    It took me until 2nd year undergraduate to 神交 this study practice: it literally didn’t occur to me that academic staff would be so lazy that they would recycle exam papers (often repeating ‘key’ questions in their entirely – in multiple years). I reckon that single observation enabled me to be far better prepared, and to focus my study on ‘nailing’ the easy marks (which gave more time to write practice essays for bullshit hand-waving subjects).

    Later on, when I was tutoring… I always made sure to at least change the 输入 to questions that yielded a quantitative answer (or for algebra problems, change the variables – e.g., for a specific form of Y=f(K,L; θ) find ∂Y/∂K instead of ∂Y/∂L … that single move wipes out more than half of copypasta students).

    The reason for this is straightforward: students who belong to ‘organised’ cultural groups (international students; ethnic groups) often pass on each year’s notes, assignments and so forth. If a student performed extremely well, they would often 出售 their assignments to the next cohort.

    I often got assignments returned that were obvious copy-pastes of a prior assignment: sometimes answering an entirely different question; sometimes referring to data that was not part of the current assignment.

    In one year (1996), for the first mid-term assignment, students submitted assignments where the footer – on every page – contained the student ID and name of the student who had originally done the assignment two years prior: me.

    When I discovered this sort of shenanigans, the student would get zero for the assignment, with an exhortation not to do it again or they would be reported.

    Later on, as a private tutor (in Quant Finance; Econometric Theory; Mathematical Economics; Financial Engineering and so on – “波浪线“)… I would do the ‘quant’ bits of my students’ assignments and give them a ‘skeleton’ of the interpretation – the main objective was to get them ‘exam ready’ (under our system, it didn’t matter if a student got 100% for every assignment; if they got less than 85 on the exam you could not get a First for the subject). I also gave them guidance on getting copies of past exam papers, examining the papers for patterns (and identifying which questions carried the most weight, and where the biggest ‘bang for the buck’ was).

    Doing their assignments? Yeah, that was cheating, for sure. It also didn’t matter a damn, because the students who couldn’t get to an 85 on the exam were not going to get a First (which means no scholarship for further study).

    Guiding them on exam prep? Not cheating 丝毫。 The past exams were in a public collection in the main library, precisely so that students could get them and practice.

    • 回复: @Heros
  219. utu 说:

    We do not have good working hypothesis how does the sytem work that it can produce a consistent bias from year after year across many universities.

    We do not have data on application statistics and acceptance rate for whites and Jews. Harvard has acceptance rate of 5%

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ivy-league-harvard-yale-princeton-acceptance-rates-class-of-2021-2017-3

    but we do not know what is the breakdown by ethnicity. Is it possible that as many Jews as whites apply to Harvard? Or is it possible that Jews are accepted through early decisions via legacy and other channels?

    https://www.ivycoach.com/2022-ivy-league-admissions-statistics/
    In the Single Choice Early Action round, 6,630 students applied to Harvard in the hope of earning admission to its Class of 2022. Of these students, 964 got in. This marks a SCEA admit rate of 14.5%. Last year, for the Class of 2021, 6,443 students applied SCEA to Harvard and 938 got in.

    In the Regular Decision round, 36,119 students applied to Harvard’s Class of 2022. Of these students, 998 earned admission. This marks a Regular Decision acceptance rate of a mere 2.8%.

    需要注意的是

    Of students admitted through Single Choice Early Action to Harvard, 13.9% identify as African American, 9.8% identify as Latino, and 1.8% identify as Native American / Native Hawaiian. 24.2% of SCEA admits are Asian Americans

    so the ethnic proportions are the same for both groups. But is it possible the 50% of the accepted 938 that is white might be dominated by Jews like 80%?

    The effect of legacy will be cumulative as along as Jews maintain overrepresentation. If 50% white graduates are Jewish year after year then eventually they will have to show up as 50% among legacy slots. In other words 25% Jewish rate guarantees 12.5% minimums Jewish rate just through legacy channel.

    I am writing this because I do not buy Ron Unz’s speculation along the line of low quality and ignorance of admission officers who supposedly are not Jewish. Also I do not buy that set-idenitfying stories like the ones about the holocausted grandmothers play role in the selection of ‘right’ candidates.

    I heard an anecdote of some researcher testing quality of electronic components like resistors and capacitors who discovered that the measured resistance and capacitance had almost Gaussian distributions except for the dip in the middle. Only after many fancy theories that he came up with to explain the the dip in middle did he learn that in the factory there was a quality control that selected components with higher specs for military applications. The moral of it is that we need an insider.

  220. @Albion

    Most of these Asian students are the children of China’s elite being dump on our universities.

    It’s the same here in Australia.

    It’s a natural response to the very tight capital controls in China: the parents work their way to (relative) prosperity, but they also know that their wealth is constantly at risk if there is a power shift in the Chinese political system.

    Anyone who has [grand-]parents that were city-dwellers during the Mao years (and the tumultuous period after Mao’s death, with the intrigues around the Gang of Four and so on) would understand that wealth obtained by proximity to political power, comes with significantly higher risk.

    So powerful people send their main repository of exportable human capital (their kids) offshore. That also enables them to offshore some money – to buy the kid a house in Vancouver, Sydney, Melbourne or Auckland; to give the kid a stipend that’s a small integer multiple of average annual income in the destination country.

    And to funnel money from the Party and its senior apparatchiks, to political-influence campaigns within the destination country. (Bear in mind: the parents are still in the good graces of the Party hierarchy, and other groups that matter in China at present).

    The undoing will be that the kids get culturally Westernised (they’re being 新陈代谢 Westernised by neonatal practices – more on that below).

    Nothing fucks up political subterfuge worse than when your personnel (who are just “rich folks’ kids”)
    ⓐ don’t know that they’re part of the subterfuge; and
    ⓑ discover that being a relatively-high-income individual in the West enables a lifestyle that is only available to the very peak of the Chinese domestic power distribution.

    I mentioned the metabolic Westernisation of Yon Chinkee...

    The big tell will be when Chinese obesity starts being a problem: it won’t be long. Give it another 10-15 years. It’s already a problem in urban China (although nowhere near as bad as in the urban West- ).

    The Chinese obsession with importing baby formula shows that they are doing what our people did in the 80s – failing to properly nourish their newborns’ microbiome by tilting away from breastfeeding.

    You see, human breast milk contains specific sugars that are not found in the milk of other mammals; more interestingly, they are sugars that the baby cannot digest. Those compounds are in breast milk to nourish specific gut bacteria that are 危急 in the development of the baby’s immune system.

    China also leads the world in the rate of births by C-section (42% of births happen that way in China).

    C-section delivery also has deleterious effects on the neonatal microbiome – effects which persist into adolescence – unless specific care is taken to ensure that the newborn is swabbed with the vaginal (and fecal) material that presents during the birth (turns out that the messiness of natural childbirth – including the tendency of women to shit themselves as they give birth – may have an evolutionary usefulness). However Chinese C-section practice is ‘overly-sterile’ (i.e., they do it the way we used to do it in the 1970s).

    And lastly: Chinese medical practice with respect to antibiotics, is about where Western practice was in the 80s… i.e., prescribe it for everything from earache to cancer. So babies’s gastrointestinal microbiota get the pharma equivalent of a hand-grenade. The Western evidence shows that this fucks up the kid’s gut flora for years – and is linked (persuasively) to learning difficulties.

    They’re Westernising themselves to parity by repeating the mistakes we made in the 1970s, the ramifications of which we’re only really just starting to get a handle on.

    • 回复: @anon
  221. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:

    I think the fairest way forward is to allocate a fixed % for each group based on their share in the general population, i.e.

    6%亚洲人
    13%黑色
    16%的西班牙裔
    1% native American and Pacific Islander
    2% 犹太人
    62% non-hispanic white

    Then within each group, admit strictly based on test scores and GPA. Fuck holistic admission, it’s a total waste of everyone’s time.

    In addition, all schools that receive federal funding of any kind should limit their foreign enrollment to no more than 2% of the incoming class.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @anon
  222. Joe862 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    是的,他们正在成为他们应得的笑柄。 人们想知道为什么拥有精美大学学位的犹太人似乎并不特别聪明。 犹太人肯定行动! 人脉、裙带关系等。事实证明,他们比他们的前辈糟糕得多,而且不会隐藏起来。 大多数人无法理解的虚伪似乎有一定程度的安慰。 多久之前,每个看到哈佛犹太人简历的人都会以不合理的期望假设平庸?

  223. Ron Unz 说:
    @anon

    I think the fairest way forward is to allocate a fixed % for each group based on their share in the general population,

    Actually, there are very considerable problems with this approach, even beyond the ideological issue.

    I discussed it at length in my big Meritocracy article, and also proposed a new system, that as far as I’m aware was entirely original, but considerably superior, and actually applicable to various other selection systems as well. If you’re interested in the issue, you might want to read this:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#problems-with-pure-diversity-and-pure-meritocracy

    • 回复: @anon
  224. anon[323]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    if i’m white, why should i care about these other groups?

    they’ve shown their hand

  225. @AaronB

    I do not think being an unhappy striver is an enviable state – it is generally the result of trauma and a penance one must undergo or a disease of the mind one must work through.

    It’s possible to be a striver and not be actually un快乐 (or neurotic, which seems to me to be embedded in the excerpt I’ve blockquoted).

    I do think that striving almost 需要 a level of 不满 with existing circumstances: the worst thing for striver-types is being satisfied with the status quo – because if you’re satisfied there’s no need to undertake the effort to move the ball.

    Lack of dissatisfaction – and/or the tendency to adapt to a circumstance that you should be able to overcome – strikes me as a significant limitation.

    The other day, in one of 3 moments of self-awareness in my life, I realised that my ‘ability’ to put up with things – a lack of dissatisfaction – was probably my worst weakness.

    I was telling my Mum that my youngest brother’s problem was that he simply waits for things to happen, rather than doing concrete things to try to change them… result: he’s 40, obese and unhealthy, in a stultifying relationship that he hates, with 3 kids by 2 mothers.

    In the telling, it struck me (and I said it out loud before I had finished thinking it): I tend to do the exact same thing.

    I don’t get the same 后果 - 因为 可爱的 is ‘wired’ to strive, so there is an ongoing source of discipline (if I didn’t make an effort while she did, then I would be a parasite).

    The more I thought about it, the more obvious it was: and the worse it was, by reference to a single example.

    什么时候 可爱的 and I faced a (brief, 6-week) period of adversity about a decade ago, I sort of processed it mentally, and thought “OK, this is our life now. Bugger.” and was sanguine about it.

    What did I actually do – or plan to do – to extricate ourselves? FUCK ALL. I wasn’t a deer in the headlights: I just was not concerned about whether or not the situation changed.

    By stark contrast – and to her credit, I think – 可爱的 thought “I have to rebuild” and so she did: within six weeks she took a bureaucratic job at \$60k below her previous salary, and within a year we were back to the 事前. (She has immense grit)

    (We actually credit that six-week period of unpleasantness as being the catalyst that made 可爱的 go to the Bar… even though I had been pressing her to do so for over a decade).

    As I said to 可爱的 the evening of my epiphany: if she had not been my partner, I would probably be living in a caravan park near somewhere with decent surf – probably happily.

    Her view is that being talented brings about obligations to perform – not for society’s sake, but to ensure that your parents aren’t ashamed of you (in her formulation nobody’s allowed too be ‘proud’ of anything – that’s too much like 吹牛).

    Humans are fucked-in-the-head: it’s only ever a question of the size and direction of fucked-in-the-head-ness.

    I can’t wait until we can upload out consciousness into a more robust substrate and “slip the surly bonds of Earth and dance through space on laughter-silver’d wings“。

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @AaronB
  226. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @Kratoklastes

    The president of China makes only \$26,000 a year, where does the average Chinese get \$500k to put towards an EB-5 visa? Clearly the only ones who make it here are the wealthy, and China being such a corrupt country, no one can get rich without being corrupt, either by taking bribes or giving them. So it’s safe to say all the China kids in the US are children of China’s ultra corrupt business and political elite.

    There are a large number of such China kids in my kid’s high school. They speak Chinese to one another loudly during lunch, assemblies, in the hallway etc., and have the worst manners, esp. table manners. My kid says many of these kids are not at all bright, and are struggling in class, esp. in English and history but also math and science. In group projects they do virtually nothing, just glued to their phones all day. Our local library is swamped with China women and their babies. More on the way to invade our colleges.

    Why are these people in our country? Fucking Obama gave them 10 year tourist visas so now they don’t even need the EB5 to buy a house and live here. We need to revert it back to 3 month visas and end the EB5 visa scam. Trump won’t do it because Jared Kushner wants EB-5 investors to help prop up his family biz. Trump has done virtually nothing to end the mass legal immigration through various visa scams in the last 2 years, from H1b to OPT to EB5. He is another bought-and-paid-for GOP when it comes to big biz friendly policies.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Kratoklastes
  227. peterAUS 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Have you any idea whether my sanguine view of Australian immigration including a high proportion of (significantly) above average IQ ethnic Chinese and Indians is measurably right or wrong in expecting it to keep Australia safe for capitalists and reasonably smart at continuing to be productive and prosperous when coal and iron ore no longer do what gold and fine wool did for 19th century Australia?

    Actually I do have some ideas about it.

    It’s all about balance, as everything else in life.

    So, it is definitely right, and easy to measure if TPTBs want it, to have carefully controlled and managed “immigration including a high proportion of (significantly) above average IQ ethnic Chinese and Indians”.
    As everything else, again, Devil is in details.

    How many and what’s the tempo are some of those. More importantly, HOW that process is managed re the 最终结果.
    Bottom line is simple: do we a the end have AUSTRALIANS or Indians and Chinese? Simple and the only important question there is.
    As it works now we, most of the time, at the end of the process have Indians and Chinese. Their way of LIFE. Not Aussies.

    At the end of this game as it’s played as we speak there are only two outcomes:
    Majority Asian country (yellow type). A mix of something which won’t have current Australian way of life. Say….40/60 % probability.

    It’s not about economy. It’s about way of life.
    Of those three players I mentioned above the first two understand that well. The third just doesn’t care.

  228. @John Gruskos

    blah blah blah … in a series of peace treaties

    你的意思是像 Fort Laramie Treaty? (Note: I’m talking here about the 1851 one, not the 1868 one – not that it matters, since the US government failed to honour either).

    Seriously – you can’t get away with bullshit like that anymore. The internet has a pretty robust error-eradication mechanism, and nonsense gets exposed very rapidly.

    Your assertion that most of the land of the modern US wasn’t stolen, is on a par with Zionists who assert that there was never a land called Palestine. It shows that you have contempt for your audience.

  229. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I think you made a very good case for random selection. The key here though is the criteria for inner ring vs. outer ring. Will this be strictly academic based on test scores and GPA? The problem is no matter which combination you use — mix of AP scores, SAT II subject tests, SAT I, GPA, there will be lots of kids killing themselves to get into that inner ring, so that kind of defeats the purpose of using randomness to reduce pressure. Plus there will still be way more qualified kids than there are slots in the inner ring thanks to grade inflation and ever easier standardized tests, unless you start using criteria like math and science olympiads, intel science competitions etc., which takes us right back to holistic admission and all the pressure it exerts on kids.

    You could also have a lottery for kids who qualify for the inner ring, and those who don’t make it get another chance by being included in the outer ring lottery, but then that wouldn’t be fair to those kids because they’re much more qualified than the outer ring kids. In a way this resembles the Early Action vs. Regular Decision system we now have, except it’s random.

    Perhaps in the end the only real fair way that also reduces pressure is to put all qualified applicants in the outer ring and select 100% by lottery, say those with minimum 1450 SAT, 3.85 GPA, 700 in each SAT II subject tests, at least 5 AP exams of scores 5 and up (with more weight for the harder ones like AP Physics C, AP Calc BC, AP Euro, APUSH).

  230. anon[323]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    there was a Wall St Journal article several years ago that said there were about 90 new billionaires in China and almost all of them were higher ups in the Communist Party

    sounds like they just skim the profits of whoever is in business

  231. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @niceland

    You don’t have to be a subscriber to comment, just need to create a log in.

    They do censor the comments quite a bit. The NYTimes doesn’t believe in free speech the way Unz does.

    • 回复: @niceland
  232. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @A Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    I think that is a fair point. The data that we need is admission rate within each group, i.e. number of applicants vs. number accepted for each group. It could be that far more Jews and Asians applied than gentile whites. One thing for sure that will show how glaring the bias is for blacks and hispanics, as I’m sure their admit rates are far higher as a percentage of the number of applicants in their demo.

    I’m quite surprised the plaintiffs still haven’t asked for this data. But one thing’s for sure they’ll never provide separate data for Jews. It’ll all be buried in the numbers for “whites”.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  233. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @Oemikitlob

    Maybe the correct solution is to let these institutions succeed or fail on their own merits?

    LOL that might turn out to be the wisest response. Let these pompous hypocrites do themselves in.

    I still remember in the late 90’s when Microsoft was all the rage, poised to take over the world. The justice department came down with a chainsaw and did nothing other than to tell them to draw an imaginary line between the 2 main divisions of Windows and Office. Then came the dot com meltdown followed by the internet companies and it all became much ado about nothing. Microsoft worked its own way to irrelevance.

    Hubris eventually does in those at the top. Sooner or later Harvard’s secret of admitting the most well-connected rather than the smartest will be exposed and employers will stop according their graduates preference in employment. In fact it’s already happening. Plenty of Harvard liberal arts grads can’t find jobs while 2nd string state college CS grads from San Jose State or Cal Poly are getting paid \$150k to work in SV. That’s why the libs had to force their way in through the diversity industry after the Obama admin began to wind down. Where else can a Harvard African Studies major find dignified employment these days other than as Director of Diversity at Google?

    • 回复: @Oemikitlob
  234. Justsaying 说:
    @Ron Unz

    With all due respect and playing the devil’s advocate here. Reading articles here at UR about the inordinate Jewish influence in the American body politic and especially ME foreign policy, including brutal wars at the behest of Jewish groups, the holocaust industry and the like, is it possible to invoke similar explanations provided here for Jewish enrollment in elite universities? I doubt that ignorance in either case would explain or excuse the blatant skews described. By the way, I have taken refuge at UR from Counterpunch in admiration of the uncommon courage shown by the exposes of yours and other writers on subjects that have been taboo for so long in the MSM. Long may this continue, barring legislation that gags and/or criminalizes this kind of much needed writing.

  235. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @Sean

    Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    That’s interesting, I didn’t think of that. White gentiles will also provide much bigger academic competition to the Jews than blacks and hispanics, that explains the overwhelming preference for white gentile 运动员, while preference among the asian group is for asian females who want to major in the humanities, i.e. not the brightest asians.

    • 同意: Sean
  236. @Kratoklastes

    I suppose one is fortunate to have an interest in how the smartest brains can be disciplined or otherwise helped to optimise their host’s performance. You have had interesting things to say from your experience including teaching. Have you come to a view about what may best be done to get the best out of the bright kid, very likely well under the average age of his class, who learns whatever is served up in black and white areas like maths, sciences and foreign (including ancient) languages so fast that he is never in danger of getting – in Anglo-Australian university terms – less than a decent second class honours degree. He may not be a natural politician or people person but he knows that he shouldn’t show off by ostentatiously making every mark a thrust for the winning post so tends to cruise. What’s to be done?

    • 回复: @Kratoklastes
  237. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ronnie

    Most of the Chinese I have spoken to do not understand that it is not the whites but maybe the Jews who are keeping them out.

    Maybe they get it, just too afraid to say it like most goyims. Also the lawsuit is funded by Edward Blum, who happens to be Jewish. Not sure if he’s as courageous and introspective as Unz.

  238. Caruthers 说:

    我似乎记得有一次读到所谓的半犹太人比“完全”犹太人的人均成就更高。 当然,有许多非常有成就的半犹太人,而且,考虑到犹太人的结婚倾向,直到最近几十年,半犹太人的总数相对于犹太人口的规模来说肯定很小。

  239. Demi 说:
    @Greg Bacon

    Yes, the graphs say it all and your comment spot on.

  240. If you wish to crow about the Harvard trial, so be it, your article was surely one of the major causes. Considering the lack of anything approaching a smoking gun after a week of trial and a year of Deep Proctology on their admissions, the fiesta might be premature and your article might turn out to be calumny, but whatever. We will see what happens in the rest of the trial. The people running Harvard admission have already been deposed to a length of over 1000 pages, turned over their emails and been put on the witness stand for a week without much effect and no embarrassing disclosures as yet regarding Asians. For an informed analysis of the statistical dispute between the two sides’ experts, search my postings for the word “nothingburger”.

    That’s all separate from the Jewish matter. The defamation you continue to direct at Ms Baytch is pathetic misdirection given the number of times you have been asked to address her replication of your surname method on the Harvard (Princeton, Stanford, etc) public and private student directories and alumni lists. Number of responses to that (不能 the Crimson 9.5% survey) still stands at 0.00.

    同样,从 1986 年到 1997 年,犹太人在物理奥林匹克竞赛中占优等生的四分之一以上,但在过去十年中下降到只有 5%,这一结果肯定会让理查德·费曼在他的坟墓里旋转。

    事实上, Jews constitute 50 to 70 percent of the white students who wonthe US Physics Olympiad in the past decade and in the 2010’s.

    http://ipho-unofficial.org/countries/USA/individual

    Both the past-decade and 2010s groups are the same set of 10 students with non-Asian names, of whom I identify the presumed ethnic Jews with italics and potential Jews (ambiguous surnames) with a question mark :

    Busis, Bogorad, Bourzutschky?, Winer, Zbarsky, Schneider?, 萨敦, Spieglan, Field, Oreman

    Of course it could be that Field is an anglicization of Feld, in which case the Jewish fraction might be as high as 80 percent. Let’s say 50 percent to be conservative.

    Similar problems exist in many of your other counts on these small data sets, the above is just to illustrate the point that there may not be any big decline of Jews in relation to white non-Jews. Both groups are totally displaced by Asians on the science contests. That displacement may be relevant to claims of Asian discrimination, but if there is no “collapse” of Jews versus Gentile whites on top-level achievement, that undercuts some of your arguments about what the Harvard population should look like.

    Since you have never acknowledged, much less answered, Ms Baytch’s counting of the Harvard, Princeton etc student directories using your surname method —- you misdirect from that by addressing only the Crimson survey, which was not her main argument —- I’ll draw the obvious inference here (other than you avoiding the point) for anyone interested. Surname counting of the Harvard undergraduate population gives, according to N.B., a fairly low estimate of the number of Jews, close to your NMS estimates. This means that if the true number of Jews is higher (like 11-14 percent as in the Brandeis sociologists’ survey with a broad definition of Jewishness, or the ridiculous 25 percent Hillel number) it indicates that Jewish high achievers today are largely immigrants with a different population of non-classic surnames and you probably undercounted Jews on the NMS lists by a similar factor of 2-4.

    More defamation of Baytch or others as silly, partisan, Jewish hive-mind swarming berserkers is obviously not an answer to any of her (or my) calculations. We’ll see what you do or don’t come up with this time.

    • 回复: @rec1man
    , @Sean
    , @Sean
  241. Druid 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    White peoare either very stupid or very naive. Jews have been screwing white europeans for centuries and whites still don’t learn

    • 回复: @anon
  242. This is an astounding indictment of the Anglo elites who have not only ruined the future career, economic and family formation prospects of their own descendants but also condemned them to an assured future of violent confrontation with rising ethnic competition.

    Of course all the other non-Anglo White races are equally condemned to that bleak future but the fact the Anglos willingly punish their own is an extraordinary fact of their nature.

    平权行动是我们对话的常规话题,我偶尔会注意到美国在这方面有多奇怪。 没有其他例子可以想到,一个种族群体已经建立了针对其本国成员的合法种族歧视制度,而旨在排斥或不利于敌对种族群体的类似制度在世界历史上却太普遍了。

    The only other examples are contemporary being every other White nation. Certainly Australia, Canada, Britain and New Zealand all have established systems “of racial discrimination against its own members”. Not only in terms of education but also occupation in both commercial and public spheres and even have laws prohibiting the its own members from vocalising their objections on pain pain being charged under various racial discrimination legislation.

    Once gain, kudos to you, Ron. This is an outstanding work for which I sincerely thank you.

  243. Heros 说:
    @Kratoklastes

    “Kaplan sought the views of recent test-takers in a bid to refine his product ”

    No, (((Kaplan))) built a database of test questions that he used to prep flagging jewish students. It was a racial thing from the beginning. I once read a thorough analysis of what he had been doing, but I can no longer find it, likely it has been memory-hole’d. That it later became a cash-generating handbook available to goyim too is not issue.

    The second article I linked to, from 2018, showed how the SAT test was a copy of one from 2017 and the students knew exactly what questions they were going to ask. We know this goes on all the time in all schools, elite or trade school, or even Microsoft or Oracle certifications. Donna Brazille famously got caught passing the 2016 election debate questions off to Hillary Clinton.

    To claim that no jews could ever have worked together to cheat the SAT and other tests would be preposterous. I merely linked to the first three articles from a ddgo query, there is loads of evidence if one is curious enough to look deeper into it. For some reasons jews cannot conduct these kinds of queries, whether it be scholastic cheating, 9/11 or the holohoax.

    Once again, the jews were caught with their fingers in the till. That so many closet Talmudists posting on unz.com try to ignore and cover for their own chosen tribe’s actions is merely more proof of their complete incompatibility of with the other races of humans.

  244. Anonymous[155]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    It could be that far more Jews and Asians applied than gentile whites.

    No doubt – on a 人均 basis – but we’re not talking about lottery and let’s not forget that the Jews are only 2% of the US population. That makes them 3 times less numerous than the Asians and 31 times less numerous than the whites.

    Bottom line is that their High School achievement results can’t even begin to explain this massive over-representation across the Ivy League.

    But one thing’s for sure they’ll never provide separate data for Jews. It’ll all be buried in the numbers for “whites”.

    是的。

  245. anon[398]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    I think that is a fair point. The data that we need is admission rate within each group, i.e. number of applicants vs. number accepted for each group. It could be that far more Jews and Asians applied than gentile whites.

    according to the data Unz was able to glean from the National Merit program there are 10 times as many Ivy League qualified whites as qualified jews so even if whites only applied at half the rate it would still be a 5 to 1 ratio. There really is no way to explain what’s going on other than extreme favoritism towards jews and extreme discrimination against whites.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @academic gossip
  246. anon[398]• 免责声明 说:
    @Druid

    i think the problem is that whites are too trusting

    also they’ve been bludgeoned by the media into believing that looking out for their own group interests would be racist and they assume other groups believe the same

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  247. Oemikitlob 说:
    @anon

    ” LOL that might turn out to be the wisest response. Let these pompous hypocrites do themselves in.”

    I believe so. There is a world of difference between good, sound reason and reasons that sound good.

    I like the rest of your comment also.

  248. niceland 说:
    @anon

    谢谢

    My short visit to the NYT web was to check if the “Jewish” angle of the matter is getting any attention. Or meritocracy for that matter. Word search for “jew” in two comment sections (over 2000 comments) didn’t reveal much.

    The feeling I got was the discussion is mostly about minority oppression and perhaps meritocracy for Asians…

    And the article mentioning Mr. Unz and linking his article doesn’t have any comments. Linking such explosive material and website like unz.com – it is probably best to close off the comment section all together. Safety reason perhaps?

    • 回复: @anon
  249. Anonymous[155]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    优点。

    The most aggressively clannish group in the country worked hard to switch off their host’s natural in-group solidarity and survival instinct.

    This will backfire badly.

  250. Ronnie 说:
    @Anon

    Unless you are saying something complementary, a remark about Jews will not usually get through. The staff are either Jewish or frightened into submission.

    For example, most of the recipes in the NY Times ask for Kosher salt in the list of ingredients. I sometimes write in to ask Why Kosher Salt ? or something similar. My remarks are rarely published. It seems that the more actively Jewish chefs only use Kosher salt and perhaps many non-Jewish contributors think that they are pleasing the Jews by asking for Kosher salt in their recipes, and will be asked to contribute again. It is a very pervasive phenomenon. Most criticism of the Tribe is actively screened out.

    I hope that Ron’s brilliant revelation of the Jewish load at Harvard will gradually see the light of day but the MSM will try to ignore it. It was already mentioned in the data, although delicately swathed, in Ron’s original article “The Myth of American Meritocracy” published in 2012. The MSM quoted Ron’s data about discrimination against Asians but ignored the discrimination against non-Jewish whites. The MSM ignore anything remotely critical of Jews so the Harvard Jewish issue has not been seriously discussed since their allocation was briefly reduced to 16% in 1923.

    • 回复: @Anon
  251. @peterAUS

    哈哈哈

    That was wicked peter. These Indians never cease to amaze me with their passive aggressive come-ons and their puffed up sense of entitlement. This is exactly the same attitude of, what I call as a “studied cool” attitude that makes them appear as arrogant pricks. They think they are at the top of their “game” and we are mostly stupid and undeserving, and deserve to be blown away like so much chaff

    try to argue with any Indian and see how it goes. It’ll leave you traumatized for a couple of hours if not the whole day or two.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Joe862
  252. anon[398]• 免责声明 说:
    @niceland

    Word search for “jew” in two comment sections (over 2000 comments) didn’t reveal much.

    if i search some name in the news + “jew” on Startpage or DuckDuckGo lately there is often some link to discrimination or racism in the top 10 or 20 results

    purely coincidental i’m sure and certainly not a social engineering tipoff that govt/big brother is watching you

  253. @Wizard of Oz

    For wizard of Oz, I present you this:
    https://cis.org/North/H4s-Data-Shows-MirrorLike-Strong-Biases-H1B-Males-and-Indians


    https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ofccp/ofccp20170118-0


    https://qz.com/india/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouraging-indians-to-hire-others-indians-and-its-killing-diversity/


    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/08/16/h-1b-indian-outsourcing-firm-discriminates-against-non-indian-workers-games-u-s-visa-system-lawsuit/


    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/cisco-cited-for-bias-against-us-workers

    Remember this is just the tip of the iceberg. A lot of desi bodyshops are feeling a bit of heat in their loot and remit schemes which is why they are suing the USCIS under a single umbrella (talk about chutzpah!!). And as far as the big ones are concerned, TCS and Infosys are facing multiple lawsuits. TCS had already lost a case against epic systems in MI wherein they literally stole the code base they were supposed to maintain and created a new competing product out of it. And this is one of the more reputed Indians firms I’ve heard.

    Most citizens woke up a little too late when most of these earlier H1B gas lighting morons are in positions of power in a lot of companies. They don’t just discriminate against non-Indians, you’ve gotta be the “right” kinda Indian if you happen to come across a “casteist” one (https://quora.com/Is-there-any-bias-among-Indians-of-hiring-other-Indian-workers-in-the-IT-industry)

    Gone are the days when we had Indians like Bose (the speaker guy). Very few FOB indians want to be like him anymore. They see us as an Inferior people who shouldn’t be bothered with except while swindling or chasing p****. I’ve worked with them for close to 13 years and I ain’t speaking this lightly (nor is this just mere banter).

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  254. anon[398]• 免责声明 说:
    @CrazedIndiot

    try to argue with any Indian and see how it goes. It’ll leave you traumatized for a couple of hours if not the whole day or two.

    if what you say is true, you should be laughing at them

  255. Joe862 说:
    @CrazedIndiot

    来自像印度这样的贫困垃圾场的人怎么不认识这种模式,这让我有点吃惊。 他们的积极性很高,因为他们来自一个有很多残酷贫困的地方,他们不想以这种方式结束。 印度之所以如此糟糕,是因为印度人在很大程度上是腐败和愚蠢的。 来自一个从未起步的文化是没有什么值得骄傲的。 当然,在美国几代人之后,他们也会遇到同样的问题。 这太明显了。

  256. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:

    Jewish dominance in the Ivy League from its administration to faculty to student body is the main reason behind academia’s turn to the hard left in the last 2 decades. More than any other institution, Harvard set the tone for academia, whatever Harvard does, all other schools follow. Whoever controls Harvard controls the country, and Jews know it. They’ve fought hard to gain this total control from the WASPs, and they are not about to let go anytime soon, certainly not to a bunch of scrappy upstarts from Asia, the new greasy grind Barbarians at the gate.

    But Jews have a tendency to overplay their hands thanks to their insatiable greed and lust, for money, power, everything. And after the 16 disastrous years of Bushobama, Harvard has more than lost its luster. The rise of Silicon Valley supplanting the draw of Wall Street, Capitol Hill and the legal profession for our nation’s top talents further diminished the Ivy League’s stature. Two years ago Stanford overtook Harvard as the most competitive school in the country, this year they widened their lead. State school grads in STEM esp. CS are now making far more money than Harvard grads, and starting their own billion dollar companies. If you look at a list of who’s who in SV and where they went to school, they are overwhelmingly graduates of state schools, including the 2 founders of Google.

    The Ivies are working themselves into irrelevance with their arrogance and leftism. Let them go dig their own graves.

  257. rec1man 说:
    @academic gossip

    2018 – Gopal Goel – Gold Medal = North Indian Merchant
    2017 – Shreyas Balaji – Gold Medal = Tamil Brahmin
    2017 – Sanjay Raman – Silver Medal = Tamil Brahmin
    2016 – Abhijit Krishnan – Gold Medal = Tamil Brahmin
    2016 – Srijon Mukherji – Silver Medal = Bengali Brahmin
    2015 – Saranesh Premababu – Gold Medal – Telugu Dravidian
    2014 – Vikram Sundar – Gold Medal – Tamil Brahmin
    2010 – Anand Oza – Silver Medal – Gujarati Brahmin
    2009 – Anand Natarajan – Gold Medak – Tamil Brahmin

    • 回复: @academic gossip
  258. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:

    Another reason the elite colleges are losing their draw to the nation’s best (esp. non-Jewish whites) is their need-based aid policy, which basically makes them unaffordable to upper middle class families earning between \$180k-\$300k. Most of these families will get next to nothing in need based aid, but also cannot afford the \$70k a year tuition for 4 years for 1 kid(many have multiple kids). As such, these schools overwhelmingly draw their students from either the very rich or the very poor. Neither of these groups produce the nation’s top talents in STEM. They tend to major in social sciences or the humanities. Most of the STEM talents come from the middle class, esp. upper middle class, as children of engineers, doctors, research scientists, math & science teachers.

    Instead of using their rich endowment funds to provide generous aid to all students, these schools would rather use their funds to 购买 talent in award winning faculty to boost their prestige, the majority of whom went to school elsewhere. Which is why Harvard hasn’t had a home grown Nobel laureate in the sciences for over 50 years. These famous professors rarely teach undergrads, only grad students and do research, while Harvard recruits mostly mediocre children of the well-connected and good little hypocrites in the undergrad so they can go on to lucrative careers in law, business and politics then contribute generously to their endowment, so they can buy more prestige by hiring famous professors. It’s been their recipe for success for the last 50 years.

    But now that (state school graduated) geeks are inheriting the earth, this recipe is losing its luster.

    • 回复: @anon
  259. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    according to the data Unz was able to glean from the National Merit program there are 10 times as many Ivy League qualified whites as qualified jews so even if whites only applied at half the rate it would still be a 5 to 1 ratio. There really is no way to explain what’s going on other than extreme favoritism towards jews and extreme discrimination against whites.

    I suspect you are right but the only way to prove that is by getting actual data, but Harvard will never release acceptance data pertaining to Jews vs. gentiles. It’s their top secret.

    All the top white kids in my kids’ school don’t even bother applying to Harvard (or any Ivy) anymore, my kids won’t either, even though they are high performing kids. Most of them either apply to MIT, Stanford, and end up at the state flagship. Stanford only wants athletes, or children of tech royalty like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates’ kids. The only people who apply to Ivies are Jews(mostly legacies), blacks, hispanics and Asians. The only 2 kids I’ve heard of who got accepted all these years were a hispanic male and an asian female.

  260. Anon[384]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ronnie

    Kosher salt simply means salt without added iodine. I don’t know all other cases, but the iodine makes pickles cloudy and somewhat gross. There is nothing Kosher or Jewish in that ‘kosher salt’; if anything, it should have been called Roman salt, since we invented salt mining.

    It’s not Jews’ fault that the majority is made of imbeciles who actively avoid ‘sciency’ words. It’s not Jews’ fault that Americans hate Catholicism, and Rome in general. Enjoy imbecility!

    • 回复: @Ronnie
    , @Alden
  261. @CrazedIndiot

    I don’t think we have a comparable problem in Australia though abusive Sikh and other dowry hungry Indian husbands have recently been in our news. And I have decided to be particularly wary about the Indian bids for some land I own on the outskirts of a growing city though a big enough deposit is probably sufficient protection. But I found your Quora link fascinating. I have indeed already forwarded it to others because it is so well written, interesting and convincing.

    I have stopped repeating my old mantra in favour of small minorities since I discovered how small the Jewish minority was in 1930s Germany (though I suppose I could have stuck to “lots of small minorities”). Unless you actually want to change your country quickly and in a big way I suppose it makes sense to try and stop the immigration of whole tribes or self sufficiently large masses of co-ethnics who will not need to assimilate even perhaps in their children’s generation. It sounds as though the worship of “diversity” should perhaps be turned into a weapon forcing the Indian recruiters for American companies to avoid the regional and caste preferences they allow to dominate.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  262. @rec1man

    Right. Oversupply of Indian high ability subgroups and undersupply of Koreans (lately) among the Asian contest winners.

    • 回复: @anon
  263. denk 说:
    @Ronnie

    Most of the Chinese I have spoken to do not understand that it is not the whites but maybe the Jews who are keeping them out.

    真的吗 ?

    From what I gather, practically all of the rabid 嗜盐菌 are whites, such as JOsh Barnes here.

    事实上,在 5个 are at the forefront of a massive anti Chinese campaign right now.
    In education, they’r trying to kill off Chinese access to latest technology.
    There are plans to bar Chinese from studying in Unis and working on high tech careers .

    https://thediplomat.com/2018/10/is-the-golden-age-of-chinese-studying-abroad-at-an-end/

    • 回复: @anon
    , @anon
    , @Sean
  264. dearieme 说:
    @Alden

    “your nieces could not have been accepted into an American Ivy League college with just one A level in English”: but that’s not remotely what he said.

    • 回复: @Alden
  265. AaronB 说:
    @Kratoklastes

    You are correct and perceptive when you say striving requires a level of dissatisfaction. This fact doesn’t get enough attention and it raises some interesting questions about why the West achieved so much.

    The attitude you are describing is a typically Western one – where unhappiness is felt as good, because it spurs you on to greater heights. However, this is question begging, and circular reasoning.

    What is the point of life if not to be happy?

    Your attitude seems to have missed the point about life, and seems to me one of the main reasons Western culture has not been able to produce a way of life that makes people genuinely content and happy for some time, which has led directly to the current malaise, the detection of men of intelligence and sensitivity (elites), and the immigration crisis.

    Without meaning to give offense, it is your attitude that must be overcome for a return to health 🙂

    Now, there is a kind of activity that isn’t striving, that doesn’t come from a place of lack and unhappiness, but is the overflow of a feeling of fullness, happiness, and completion, of abundance and gratitude towards life.

    Goethe wrote some interesting things about this “good” kind of activity, which he distinguished from the “bad” kind of striving that has characterized the West.

    This kind of activity has been rare in the West since the modern period began, but used to be more common, and is the default activity for Eastern cultures.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @Kratoklastes
  266. renfro 说:

    In Admissions, Harvard Favors Those Who Fund It, Internal Emails Show

    In one 2013 email headlined “My Hero,” former Kennedy School Dean Ellwood thanked Harvard’s dean of admissions for his help accepting a set of students with very particular qualifications. “[Redacted] and [redacted] are all big wins. [Redacted] has already committed to a building.”

    John M. Hughes, a lawyer for Students for Fair Admissions — the anti-affirmative action group suing the College over its race-conscious admissions policies — introduced the emails in a bid to prove Harvard unfairly prefers the wealthy and well-connected. Hughes read each messsage aloud before grilling the College’s long-serving Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid William R. Fitzsimmons ’67 on their contents.

    The handful of emails — most of them sent between administrators and admissions officers — hint at the College’s behind-the-scenes fondness for applicants whose admission yields certain practical perks. Hughes referenced the emails as he quizzed Fitzsimmons on the “Dean’s Interest List,” a special and confidential list of applicants Harvard compiles every admissions cycle. Though the University closely guards the details, applicants on that list are often related to or of interest to top donors — and court filings show list members benefit from a significantly inflated acceptance rate.
    In one 2013 email headlined “My Hero,” former Dean of the Harvard Kennedy School David T. Ellwood ’75 thanked Fitzsimmons for his help admitting a set of students with very particular qualifications.

    “Once again you have done wonders. I am simply thrilled about the folks you were able to admit,” Ellwood wrote in the email. “[Redacted] and [redacted] are all big wins. [Redacted] has already committed to a building.”

    In a separate email Hughes presented, Associate Vice President for Alumni Affairs and Development Roger P. Cheever ’67 reflected on the pros and cons of another Harvard hopeful. This student’s family at one point donated \$8.7 million to the University — but more recent years had proven “challenging,”

    Cheever wrote.

    “[Redacted] was a devoted [redacted] Chair and generous donor,” Cheever’s email reads. “Going forward, I don’t see a significant opportunity for further major gifts. [Redacted] had an art collection which conceivably could come our way.”

    Cheever closed the email by noting he would “call it a 2” — an apparent attempt to score the applicant-and-donation package. After Hughes asked Fitzsimmons to explain the number, the dean said the “2” ranking meant the candidate would receive a boost in the admissions process.

    continue at…..https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/10/18/day-three-harvard-admissions-trial/heever

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @utu
    , @anon
  267. peterAUS 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    ….Unless you actually want to change your country quickly and in a big way I suppose it makes sense to try and stop the immigration of whole tribes or self sufficiently large masses of co-ethnics who will not need to assimilate even perhaps in their children’s generation. ….

    正是。

    At the moment that changing process is going on. Not as fast as some players would want, but it IS going on.
    I guess you are aware that there are self-contained communities in Australia where plenty of people simply do not speak English.WHEN those communities become big, numerous, enough, well…..Democracy and such. One person, one vote. Local governing bodies etc.

    Stopping the process..hehe….I’d like to see how. If any politician tries that I can so easily visualize what’s going to happen.

    Reversing the process…oh my.

    有趣的时代。

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  268. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @denk

    There are plans to bar Chinese from studying in Unis and working on high tech careers .

    Sounds like a good plan. I hope they succeed. It’s time to stop issuing any kind of visa to Chinese and Indian nationals. They are invading the USA and killing us with their incompatible cultures of dishonesty, selfishness, greed, nepotism, clannishness and ruthlessness. We already have such a (((tribe))) in the US, and they’ve done enough damage to us for the last 50 years, we don’t need more.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @denk
  269. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    There is a catch there. A BIG one.

    Those “unhappy” have been more successful in dishing violence. All empires…all conquerors.

    So, it’s very good to have

    ….overflow of a feeling of fullness, happiness, and completion, of abundance and gratitude towards life.

    until people with better weapons, tactics and numbers come to visit you.

    Good to say

    This kind of activity has been rare in the West since the modern period began, but used to be more common, and is the default activity for Eastern cultures.

    Modern period->colonization.

    B.T.W. Does that apply to Huns and Mongols too?
    Building of Chinese empire? Building and maintaining of Japanese society?

    I guess the bottom line is: speak softly and carry a big stick. Emphasis on stick part. Now…the question is how to be happy, complete etc. and still able to carry, with skill, that stick?

    So, as for this:

    Without meaning to give offense, it is your attitude that must be overcome for a return to health

    sure. Islamists first. Then Chinese. Then Russians. Actually all nuclear powers.
    USA the last.
    I mean…haha…if you were, say, Putin, would you do that? “Let’s be friends, happy…blah…blah..we’ll do it first. Get rid of all our nuclear weapons. Then you”.
    好笑吧?

    Cain and Abel, mate.
    该隐和亚伯

    • 回复: @AaronB
  270. anon[169]• 免责声明 说:
    @academic gossip

    Oversupply of Indian high ability subgroups………among the Asian contest winners.

    hats off to them but why should we allow their import?

  271. anon[169]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    Instead of using their rich endowment funds to provide generous aid to all students, these schools would rather use their funds to buy talent in award winning faculty to boost their prestige, the majority of whom went to school elsewhere.

    how about these schools just charge each student the same price and let the poor ones find support or subsidies in the private sector?

    also, if they were to provide “generous aid to all students” then clearly the tuition is overpriced

  272. @peterAUS

    I am not at all sure that I can guess which communities of non English speakers you are referring to. Can you please elaborate – with some reference to localities and numbers to give a sense of the importance.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  273. anon[169]• 免责声明 说:
    @renfro

    “[Redacted] was a devoted [redacted] Chair and generous donor,” Cheever’s email reads. “Going forward, I don’t see a significant opportunity for further major gifts. [Redacted] had an art collection which conceivably could come our way.”

    LOL

  274. AaronB 说:
    @peterAUS

    I agree, its a problem. Unhappy dissatisfied people tend to try and conquer others and conquer nature.

    Certainly I apply this to other cultures as well, including Asian ones.

    I am wondering if it’s possible to develop enough strength to defend oneself without having to become an intense striver oneself.

    I don’t yet know what the solution, and in truth there may be no solution, and we may not need a solution because the unhappy striver civilizations all implode after about 250 years, suggesting its not sustainable.

    The West colonized the rest of the world, but is now destroying itself. So the striving phenomena seems to be self limiting.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  275. anon[169]• 免责声明 说:
    @denk

    From what I gather, practically all of the rabid sinophobes are whites, such as JOsh Barnes here.

    i generally like Chinese because they seem to be decent people but just stop with these silly and insulting words. We’re not sinophobes just because we don’t want our country overrun and culture destroyed any more than the mainland Chinese preventing the same would be caucasophobes.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @denk
  276. @anon

    Do take a long view. Isn’t it time that you had a Gothic, or maybe a Lombard emperor if you can’t wait for the Franks to get their act together?

  277. @renfro

    A couple of years ago a successful Harvard alumnus of my acquaintance, with four bright children, was outraged when told that it would cost him \$250,000 to ensure a place for one of them who is now at another one of the top Ivies.

    • 回复: @renfro
  278. Sean 说:
    @denk

    , they’r trying to kill off Chinese access to latest technology

    中国的 access. China is a separate country.

    • 回复: @denk
  279. peterAUS 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I am not at all sure that I can guess which communities of non English speakers you are referring to.

    真的吗?

    Can you please elaborate – with some reference to localities and numbers to give a sense of the importance.

    Of course I can, with ease.I just don’t want to.

    I can suggest something, though:
    Maybe you can have a quiet word with a mate of yours.
    You could use just a fraction of resources at your (group) disposal and you’ll have it in…say….month, tops. A proper report, with all the maps, charts, diagrams and such.

    Can’t happen, of course. Would be insensitive, racist even. A career, reputation killer.

    As for importance, depends on a viewpoint.
    Some people just love it. More is merrier. Keyword “more”. Numbers. Demographics.

    Good thing, we aren’t, yet, at France or UK level, no go zones and such.
    In time, though……

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  280. utu 说:
    @renfro

    That’s where we should look for the answer to the question how Jews get 50% of slots allocated to all whites (including Jews).

    In my comment #221 I pointed out to two channels of selection:

    单一选择提前行动 and 定期决定 that award places in 50/50 ratio but the first one has acceptance rate of 14.5% while the other has acceptance rate of 2.8% only.

    My hypothesis is that in the Single Choice Early Action Jews have advantage that even w/o shenanigans they may get at least 25% of the slots awarded to whites and in the Regular Decision stage they will get 9% randomly on merit. I use 9% instead of Ron Unz’s 6% because I use scaling 6/(70-6)=9. This gives us 25%+9%=34% of slots assigned to whites. This leaves us with the remaining 17% that need to be explained. So in case of Harvard out of 2000 accepted there are 500 whites and 500 and 0.17*1000=170 Jews were accepted because of some special preferential mechanism.

    I suspect that the 17% actually gets in the Single Choice Early Action stage on top of the 25%.

  281. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    同意。

    特别是:

    The West colonized the rest of the world, but is now destroying itself. So the striving phenomena seems to be self limiting.

    and

    … in truth there may be no solution…

    至于

    ….we may not need a solution because the unhappy striver civilizations all implode after about 250 years, suggesting its not sustainable…

    Oppenheimer changed that rule. The imploding could be terminal on global scale.

    Dem Joos and their poking at atom.

    和:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_virus_retention_controversy#WHO_2018_position
    Just two (friendly) superpowers only. Just in case……….

    • 回复: @Sean
    , @AaronB
  282. Sean 说:
    @academic gossip

    She may not be silly, but she is partisan in a way that Ron is not.

    That’s all separate from the Jewish matter

    Only if an Asian quota is being enforced without reference to its effect on Jewish enrollment.

    That displacement may be relevant to claims of Asian discrimination, but if there is no “collapse” of Jews versus Gentile whites on top-level achievement, that undercuts some of your arguments about what the Harvard population should look like.

    The court case is all about Asians. No one claims Jews are underrepresented, so it seems likely they are the beneficiaries of any Asian quota.

    For an informed analysis of the statistical dispute between the two sides’ experts, search my postings for the word “nothingburger”.

    If it was argued between sides’ experts …, but that could never happen.

  283. @anon

    The president of China makes only \$26,000 a year, where does the average Chinese get \$500k to put towards an EB-5 visa?

    You’re assuming that Xi’s only income is his salary. That’s not a sensible assumption.

    One very commonly observed feature of politics is that politicians retire with vastly more accumulated wealth than can be explained by their salaries (assuming standard levels of savings rates and investment return).

    And no, the ‘average’ Chinee is not sending little Xuiying or Wei to a western college or university – any more than the average Saudi is sending little Achmed bin Mohammed to Eton.

    It’s absolutely true that most wealthy Chinese in China are exploiting their connection to the Party in order to enrich themselves. Much the same as most Russian oligarchs were recipients of extraordinary ‘luck’ during the period immediately following the Soviet collapse.

    How that differs from a very large proportion of US ‘entrepreneurs’ escapes me – for my money, a corrupt Party official is orders of magnitude less vile than the CEO of Raytheon (or any of the other Todeskrameren who make their money selling child-killing apparatus to the US Death Machine).

    Honoré de Balzac nailed it:

    Le secret des grandes fortunes sans cause apparente est un crime oublié

    The secret (behind) great fortunes without apparent cause, is a forgotten crime.

    This has been misquoted as “Behind 每周 great fortune there is a great crime” – which sounds like it might be too sweeping a generalisation, but is a very useful rule of thumb. Ask yourself how many billionaires get to the ‘3 comma club’ with no lobbying, finagling, or government assistance: the answer is zero.

    OK, maybe it’s not quite zero… my fortune (over one hundred dollars) was obtained without any government assistance. (3 commas? Pfft. Try FOUR, bitchez!)

    一探究竟:

    Note: the coin in the image has more purchasing power than the banknote. I wish I had bought another 9 of those notes, so that I could officially have commas. This is what government does to value, always and everywhere, given time.

  284. @peterAUS

    It now seems that you don’t care to persuade anyone with your comments after all because it is pretty obvious that someone who is yet to be persuaded that there is an issue is going to spend the time and effort you prescribe.

    You can’t be referring to Australia-s (small) Jewish population because even the Lubavitcher kids are educated in English. So are the minute (though troublesome) fraction of African – principally South Sudanese – refugee offspring. Even the Lebanese descended from those misguidedly let in as refugees about 1977 are English speaking now. The Indians and Pakistanis all speak English though I suppose you could find a few brides of arranged marriages that didn’t. But they all use English medium schools for their kids.

    Aha! You must be thinking of a few residual desert Aborigines whose kids have bilingualism inflicted on them so their Englis is hopeless. Right?

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  285. @AaronB

    This fact doesn’t get enough attention and it raises some interesting questions about why the West achieved so much.

    I think the ‘Ice People’/’Sun People’ split has a fair amount of explanatory power.

    The Ice People who manage to find a bit of fertile-ish dirt had a thousand generations of hard-scrabbling built into their DNA, and that sort of selective pressure winds up with being hard-wired to think that too much is never enough.

    The Sun People lived, by and large, in environments where calories were relatively abundant year-round (compared to Ice-People-Land) – compared to Ice People, they face more risk of predation and disease, than of food insecurity. And they also didn’t have to husband resources anywhere near as much as the Icers.

    The Ice People had environmental pressure to be more innovative and acquisitive, and they adapted accordingly.

    So now we have space shuttles, cell phones, and cluster munitions: it’s not an unalloyed blessing, but thus far the Ice People haven’t actually rendered the planet uninhabitable. Better yet, after ten or so generations of being able to regularly get enough to eat, they show some signs of calming the fuck down.

    One of my favourite examples of a person who never stopped being hungry is George Herscu.

    At one point, he was worth \$500 million: he could have sold up and lived on bank interest.

    But he grew up hungry. Really hungry. “Boiled shoe-leather with a side of grass and twigs” hungry.

    And with that always in his mind, any buffer that he had between himself and starvation always seemed to be “not enough”.

    So he went for that one more big deal, and expanded into the US. A short time (three years?) later, his business collapsed owing \$1.77 billion and he was bankrupt. He later wound up in prison.

    If he had been Tongan, he would have died fat and spent most of his life as happy as a labrador puppy.

    It’s not at all clear to me that the life he actually lived was more enjoyable.

    • 回复: @Winston
  286. @Ron Unz

    当然,Unz 在这里是真实的。 如果艾夫斯有真正的盲目和精英招生政策,那么国际学生将占绝大多数。 我敢打赌,中国公民至少会占 30%,印度人可能会占 15%。

    • 回复: @anon
    , @anon
  287. anon[169]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    如果他们招收了那么多外国学生,美国政府为什么要补贴他们?

  288. peterAUS 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    It now seems that you don’t care to persuade anyone with your comments after all because it is pretty obvious that someone who is yet to be persuaded that there is an issue is going to spend the time and effort you prescribe.

    Precisely. Free will, time/energy/effort allocation, stuff like that. With price attached.

    Good list, with …hahaha….just one …just ONE group missing.

    Re

    The Indians and Pakistanis all speak English though I suppose you could find a few brides of arranged marriages that didn’t.

    and some elderly. Now, it helps when those two countries were under The Crown for quite some time.

    Still, we are getting sidetracked here focusing on speaking English (properly).

    My point is that those ethnic/racial groups tend to live together in close knit societies WITHIN large society. Almost self-contained.
    That self-containment, with encouragement from TPTBs, enables them not to assimilate into major culture.
    In essence…you have “small India/Pakistan….CHINA”. Small, for the moment.
    Bigger they get, smaller the major culture becomes……

    The game is simple: their second generation assimilates well, but will come to that again below. The thing is….with not well controlled immigration we have more of the first.
    And, as for the second generation, again, we know how it works in Europe with Muslims.

    An anecdote: an acquaintance of mine, Asian, told me recently that he liked, almost needed, speaking with me because that’s one of rare opportunities to speak English. White collar professional, service industry. All of his team speak Mandarin at work; all customers and business contacts are Chinese.
    随便你怎么做。

    I hope we aren’t talking about merits of (uncontrolled) immigration. All clear there.
    Everybody likes it..except prevalent culture “deplorables” and some of upper layers of the same culture who think about 10 years ahead, not just up to their next yearly bonus/promotion.

    The only what matters is ..which group one belongs to.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  289. Sean 说:
    @academic gossip

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/at-trial-harvards-asian-problem-and-a-preference-for-white-students-from-sparse-country

    Last week, a lawsuit challenging Harvard’s admissions process as discriminatory toward Asian-Americans, organized by the affirmative-action opponent Edward Blum, went to trial in the Boston federal courthouse. Among the revelations of the trial’s first week was that, to this day, Harvard makes a special effort to recruit students from twenty states that it calls Sparse Country. In his testimony, William Fitzsimmons, the dean of admissions, who has worked in the admissions office since before Bakke, reminisced about his Harvard roommate in the nineteen-sixties, who was “a great ambassador” for South Dakota. He also testified about the letters Harvard sends to high-school students in Sparse Country who have P.S.A.T. scores of at least 1310, encouraging them to apply. The only Sparse Country students with such scores who do not get the letter are Asians; to receive it, an Asian male must score at least 1380. An attorney for the plaintiff asked why a white boy in, say, immigrant-rich Las Vegas with a score of 1310 would get the letter, while his Asian classmate with a 1370 would not. Fitzsimmons responded with generalities about the need to recruit from a broad array of states to achieve diversity.

    When Fitzsimmons was asked whether he thinks “it’s impossible to abuse a holistic review process like Harvard’s,” he replied, “I do.”

  290. Sean 说:
    @peterAUS

    下面的 AIpocalypse extermination of humanity by hard working super-intelligence its lazy digital third generation, concentrating on internal ‘cultural things’, will decide to take a cosmic siesta.

    加上零钱,再加上c'est lamême。

  291. AaronB 说:
    @peterAUS

    Its not necessary for the human race to survive, and we know this planet will eventually get eaten by the sun.

    Something new will come out of the great Nothing.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @peterAUS
  292. Winston 说:
    @Kratoklastes

    The “Ice People and Sun People split” is just nonsense made up by some racists like Derbyshire to satisfy his superiority complex. All ancient original civilizations on earth were born in areas suitable for advanced agriculture. With the exception of China, the rest of the 5 cradles of civilization (Egypt and Mesopotamia, India, Andes, Mesoamerica) were all created by “Sun” People living in low latitude zones with a lot of sunlight.

    The Greek civilization was not an original civilization and was heavily influenced by Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations.

    • 同意: utu
    • 回复: @Kratoklastes
    , @Anonymous
  293. @Wizard of Oz

    The really key bit of this –

    how the smartest brains can be disciplined or otherwise helped to optimise their host’s performance

    – is trying to work out what it means to ‘optimise’, and what is meant by ‘performance’.

    It’s rare to find a smart person who has what most people consider ‘normal’ objectives; ‘normal’ objectives seem to involve having a material standard of living that impresses other people – a bigger house (80% owned by a bank); a late model car (on credit) and so forth.

    It’s not clear how it happens, but the one constant that I have seen in every smart person I know is the development of an introspective side – 终于. It often requires some social catalyst, the nature of which is only obvious in hindsight: it’s rarely parental.

    By ‘introspective’ I don’t mean navel-gazing; I mean genuinely making an effort to nut out what they would rather do with their time and their talents – and it seldom involves continuing to do things to acquire material stuff in order to impress randoms; it might not even involve going to university.

    Basically, ‘optimising’ is finding the right combination of status, income, security and popularity that makes the person as happy as possible given their budget and other constraints.

    It’s very bespoke: if it were just me, I could live in the caravan park near Lake Eacham and eat channa masala for every meal of every day (so long as I had an internet connection). I wouldn’t be ‘productive’, but I would be among the happiest people alive.

    Smart kids find their niche – even if it’s living in a primitive dwelling in Thailand getting paid bugger-all and helping run an elephant sanctuary. (I would be immensely proud if any of my nephews did that, but probably horrified if I had a kid and my kid did it).

    Determining a smart kid’s objectives for them, and trying to ‘nudge’ or cajole them along some path designed ‘help’ them meet objectives that they might not want (or might repudiate later), strikes me as a 非常 difficult and thankless task. In fact, it’s one of the non-misanthropic reasons I have no desire to be a parent.

    Sometimes I delude myself that if I had a kid like me, I would give them loose (but not ‘free’) rein – very similar to how my parents treated me: discipline to inculcate proper behaviour; support for interests, even predictably-transient interests; no pressure to do ‘normal’ kid stuff unless the kid wanted to.

    The reality is that I would almost-certainly do what everyone does – project my values onto the poor wretch, and force them to kick the footy and play cricket with me.

    I would “want what’s best for them”, which would be some Δ ‘improvement’ from what’s best for me, with the direction of each element of the ‘improvement’ deriving from my preferences, not the kid’s – and would almost certainly be wrong (and a poor fit for a changing technological environment).

    I am usually loath to refer to the psych literature, because it’s the lowest-quality research corpus that humanity has produced: worse than astrology, homeopathy and theology, only because it has yet to be properly exposed as the last profitable refuge for charlatanry.

    With that said: there is some half-decent evidence that very high-IQ people are under-represented in ‘prestige’ positions. There’s also some modest evidence that above +2.5σ, the link between IQ and income (and wealth) breaks down.

    That’s not saying that very bright kids end up 贫困: it just means that there appears to be diminishing marginal utility (from perspective) to allocating their cognitive apparatus to what I refer to as “hamster wheel” pursuits.

    可爱的 is a prime example of this: talent got her promoted to Senior Associate at one of Australia’s biggest law firms in less than 3 years – faster than anyone in the prior 8 promotion rounds. But her first-rate mind meant that she had no desire to continue the ordeal: she had less-than-zero desire to become a partner at the firm (in this she had my full – but irrelevant – support). By the 10-year mark she would have been bagging \$1.5 mil a year, – but she had no interest to continue in that nest of vipers, clipping the ticket of underlings who have to bill 7x salary.

    对比一下 萨利姆·梅哈耶(Salim Mehajer) – a name that, in most of Australia, is now a byword for a half-smart status-obsessed shyster. For a while, every duck-faced fake-tan stripper-heeled Instagram slattern wanted to be in the passenger seat of his (leased) Lambo. If you used \$10k as a lure on a marlin rig, dragged it behind a car and went past Mehajer, he would bite on it and not let go.

    My claim is that if he had another 20-25 IQ points, he would not have been attracted to political power (or Instagram slatterns) in the first place.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  294. utu 说:
    @AaronB

    ‘Its not necessary for the human race to survive.” – no only not necessary but its extinction is assured.

    • 回复: @AaronB
  295. renfro 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    My two younger brothers are both Harvard MBAs.
    We didn’t give Harvard any money ……they must have confused them with someone else…..or they were Harvard’s token Southerners…….lol

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  296. peterAUS 说:
    @AaronB

    Its not necessary for the human race to survive, and we know this planet will eventually get eaten by the sun.

    Well…I’d leave that to great masters of SF. Clarke, for example, for sort of optimistic view.

    My primary interest is next 20 years. I just don’t see myself, in this form, after that (assuming there is something beyond “that”). Selfish, short sighted, probably, don’t care. Happy to leave that care to the living. Division of labor and such.

    I’d prefer living those 20 years as, say, I’ve done the last 20 years, of sort.

    Unfortunately, any way I cut it, it looks like it will be……….不同…in rather unpleasant way.

    And all that assuming we won’t have M.A.D.

    With this new breed of politicians, what can go right when they get the opportunity to make The Decision?
    The current White House guy approaches geopolitics as running a business. No coming back from 破产。

  297. @Kratoklastes

    Thanks (that’s not just for being right but including the benefit of your genuine experience and observations). There’s nothing that leaps out as requiring disagreement. But… although I noted the problem for some bright family members of having had *too much choice* (e.g no family money worries and matriculating at 15 with firsts in the hard subjects) compounded perhaps by a family death at a critical time which left them (female with a very smart charming but not formally educated mother) with money but no sensible guidance I would add in to what you say the building and maintaining of the power to choose quite big changes of direction. In other words not to close off options. I now tell everyone who can to learn lots of maths and that if they don’t speak Chinese in 20 years time it will be like not speaking English now. (I also try to pass on what I know about not losing mastery of a language that one got on top of once. Do they listen? Well I am unembarrassred about applying my rule that things have to be said at least three times to make it even 50:50 that the time is right for reception).

    I am sorry that you are without children. I have unfashionable ideas that a wretched Federal Treasurer once called elitist about how to make minor inroads on our indigenous dysgenic problem. But you may be amused at my telling about ten smart 17 year old female friends of a niece that I was all in favour of great female CEOs but had to note that they would probably do more for their grandchildren’s Australia or England if they did what their equally smart and capable great grandmothers did and have 15 children. Before they could react I threw in the punchline from a smart young male investment manager: “same goes for the blokes!”.

  298. @renfro

    The person I mentioned wanted his daughter to go to Harvard College not a graduate school. I suspect the Business School is much more concerned with future influence around the world. One of my Oxbridge contemporaries who had a distinguished later career had made a splash as reformer in a major Varsity sport, another (later a professor of management and innovator in third world business development) had a 170 year old family business and captained a university mtnor-but fashionable sport team. No bribes needed I think. Nor for the female Israeli tank commander, Baker Scholar, who later headed a worldwide management consultancy.

  299. Skeptikal 说:

    “Furthermore, I noted the possibility that this discrepancy might be related to the overwhelming Jewish dominance of the top administration of those institutions:”

    And this, my dears, along with I expect Jewish dominance in the donor base, explains the jihad at Harvard against “final” clubs, and any other private clubs of self-selecting groups of students.
    Drew Gilpin Faust made it a defining element of her legacy before she stepped down and replaced her Harvard President’s office for a position on the board of Goldman Sachs (she still teaches at Harvard).

    The agenda is more transparent than Faust and her co-jihads apparently think. The arguments they brought forth were each lamer than the last and led to embarrassing necessity to enlarge the definition of the banned clubs (actually, clubs have not been banned but their members have been sanctioned very stiffly) to include also all-women’s clubs, to avoid charges of discrimination against white men. Many of the women students and other groups were quite upset at the quashing of their clubs.

    Then there is the valuable real estate and stately buidlings that the old clubs possess. Harvard is surely licking its chops to get its mitts on these properties. I expect doing so is part of the long-range strategic develpment plan.

    I hope the issue of the jihad against final and other clubs comes up in this trial.

  300. @peterAUS

    Come to think of it I can see that there would be some businesses where a foreign language might be prevalent. Arranging tourism for Chinese is an obvious one. So is getting Indian students visas and places in Australia’s rather shiny for profit education sector. The latter is worth a bit of worry and action.

    Generally I count on the Indians (not perhaps including all Indian Muslims but that’s BTW) not wanting the Chinese to become too influential and vice versa. I expect them both to be net taxpayers who will want to limit the immigration of the unskilled (apart I suppose for the odd Philipina nursemaid on a temporary – maybe tourist visa – while their kids are young). On the other hand I wouldn’t expect them to be enthusiastic maximises of their tax payments so, if you can’t afford Jewish tax lawyers you might get some friendly practical help from Chinese (especially) or Indian friends.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
  301. Skeptikal 说:

    “The vast majority seem to possess minimal academic expertise and few intellectual interests, raising serious questions about their ability to reasonably evaluate their higher-quality applicants.”

    I was shocked at the lack of qualifications for a position in the admissions dept. at Wellesley of a young woman of my personal acquaintance. This woman was very lah-de-dah when she described how the group would read through applications and basically joke as they tossed one into the acceptance pile and the next one into the rejection pile.
    This young woman had zero qualifications to be deciding on the fate of girls applying to Wellesley. She didn’t even seem to take her role seriously, and she herself was a graduate of a decent but not stellar college.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  302. peterAUS 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Well…all that assuming that 的课 group retains exclusive hold on power, or better, preserves core Australian culture. Makes, and enforces, all fundamental rules. As,say, since 1 January 1901.

    Hehe..I mean, that’s what you guys expect. As for us, commoners, well, although not perfect, beats all the alternatives.

    Re those alternatives, I am not quite sure your group will manage that from the first paragraph.
    I expect certain…dilution…there.
    More relaxed environment re naked corruption, abuse of state power and all the rest of those beauties India and China are good at.
    The very reasons their own people flee there and try to get, by hook and crook, into Australia (and New Zealand when you think about that).And, when they get here, they do their best to recreate the very shit they run from.
    People……
    Just last week I was engaged in a brief project, tech world, with Indian client. Let’s just say that it was rather different experience from work done for “locals”. From requests and expectations, through pay to work environment. Not looking forward for similar any time soon. Enough said.

    So..we’ll see.

  303. @Winston

    The “Ice People and Sun People split” is just nonsense made up by some racists like Derbyshire to satisfy his superiority complex.

    Weird: here was me, thinking it was made up by a black academic (Leonard someone – can’t be bothered to look it up) who got in quite a bit of trouble for it.

    (His formulation had some New Age horse-shit about melanin making people more attuned to Nay-cha or the universe or whatever: I’ve had a tan, and it didn’t enable me to hear the Music of the Spheres).

    That aside: there’s a pretty big difference between “civilisation” and the sort of grasping materialist expansionism that is 大多 the hallmark of the West – in all likelihood, mostly due to technological superiority.

    It’s no longer true, but for a lot of human history “necessity [was] the mother of invention”: tech change was largely driven by a 需要 to do more with less (including the science of slaughter). If your home was a bunch of rain-soaked rocks off the coast of France, or an icy wasteland in Ikea-land, you tended to have to go trade with (or steal from) other folks.

    By contrast, if you were somewhere more fertile, you could invent philosophy, writing or music or other gay shit that the Icers would try to steal.

    • China: bunch of stay-at-homes. Invented gunpowder, yet failed to bomb a single school.
    • Mesopotamia: didn’t trouble the scorers on the ’empire’ front; were invadee more than invader. Pikers.
    • Mesoamerica: localised strife, the odd bit of playful human sacrifice, but far too humid to do serious large-scale stuff;
    • Greece: historical epics, played out in a space the size of Tasmania.

    Look back at the historical record of 正确 invading hordes of marauding assholes: they’re largely Icers.

    The big-ticket hordes were Icers. Euro-Imperialism was 100% pure Icer until Japan had a go at it (they’re Icer-ISH: natural resource poor).

    Temujin was an Icer (hint: it’s not about white skin, blonde-ness or blue eyes or swastika armbands… it’s about tundra and eating your horse).

    There was plenty of ‘invading’ done in warm climes, but until Rome got its SPQR on, everything was pretty localised.

    (Rome was a Sun People gig – the climate around the big bathtub that joins Europe to North Africa is pretty sunny. Plus, the Ities are all far too dusky to be trusted).

    The Gyppos were a Sun People that had an ‘Empire’, but you could have fitted the whole thing into New South Wales. If technology had permitted, it’s possible that they would have expanded further – there was plenty of periodic famine to keep them hungry enough to get Icer-ish tendencies.

    And there will be exceptions to every rule: Maori are clearly a Sun People, but well before Whitey had ocean-going navigation, they performed the longest oceanic migration in history to that point… and when they got to 青茶罗阿, they killed everyone they met (and ate the ones who were worth eating).

    凯克万岁!

  304. denk 说:
    @anon

    *its a good plan*

    So its like I say, a whitey plan, more like a 5个 方案。
    why blame it on the Jews ?

    *They are 入侵 the USA and 杀死我们 with their incompatible cultures of dishonesty, selfishness, greed, nepotism, clannishness and ruthlessness*

    hundreds/thousands died in the 1959 CIA/RAW abetted ‘uprising’ by the Dalai clique,

    thousands of Chinese killed in the fukus instigated indo/sino war, 1962

    hundreds died in the CIA engineered TAM caper,.1989
    [and you smeared that as ‘massacre’ until this very day]

    [更多]

    1999, ‘accidental’ bombing of Chinese embassy in ex Yugo,
    killing three personnel, one of them a pregnant woman,
    [and the state dept creep told the press corp,
    ‘we use an out of date map by mistake’, with a huge smirk ]

    2000,
    spy plane over Hainan, killing one Chinese pilot.

    hundreds died in the CIA orchestrated riots in Tibet ,2008
    [You spin it as another ‘brutal crackdown on unarmed protestors]

    hundreds chopped up by CIA’s UIghurs mercs in Xinjiang 2009
    [and your lovely presstitudes told the world its a ‘种族灭绝 on muslims’,
    ‘wow, why aint there a 圣战 against the Chinese ?’ they helpfully suggest]

    2013
    Obama’s ‘Asian pivot’, aka the encirclement of China,

    Trump has gone one up over Obama,
    provocations in SCS, TW, ECS.
    贸易战,
    smear campaign,
    sanction..

    These are off hand and hardly exhaustive.

    So who’r those ‘ruthless invaders’ ???

    • 回复: @anon
  305. denk 说:
    @Sean

    访问 as in studying in murikkan unis, …just like the Indians, jps, euros, martians….

    I hope you’r not one of those who swallow your dear leaders B.S. that the Chinese have been ‘访问‘ all your national data centres, ‘siphoning top secrets doc from Lockheed Martin at will’ !

    *China is another country*

    Hope murikkans remember that,
    China is a sovereign country, 3000 miles away…..
    不是 maligned., sabotaged, violated 随意。

    [暗示]
    re my reply to anon256

  306. Anonymous[153]• 免责声明 说:
    @Winston

    That theory wasn’t talking about official “cradles” AFAIK. At the time, it’s perfectly logical that higher population densities formed in areas where food was readily available.

    I’m not yet sold on the Ice-Sun theory myself but “we wuz kangz” is not a rebuttal (especially when your own exception is high-IQ China). It’s a feel-good story for today’s ghetto-dwellers and white genocide advocates. Ultimately – for 任何 reason – the whites and the East Asians have evolved to have higher average IQs and that’s where we are now.

  307. @anon

    according to the data Unz was able to glean from the National Merit program there are 10 times as many Ivy League qualified whites as qualified jews so even if whites only applied at half the rate it would still be a 5 to 1 ratio. There really is no way to explain what’s going on other than extreme favoritism towards jews and extreme discrimination against whites.

    A direct count of Harvard’s Jewish surnames using Ron’s estimation method showed a similar percentage (6-8 percent) at Harvard as on the National Merit lists. See the Nurit Baytch paper where she did this calculation on public, private, alumni, and Facebook directories at Harvard, Princeton and Stanford. In my recent comments at Steve Sailer’s I posted a link with code to search the Princeton undergraduate public directory if you want to test this out for yourself. Ron is aware of this problem but has not addressed it. In fact, this article of his appears to be a response to my comments at Sailer’s blog. The strategy is to claim victory over Ms Baytch and ridicule her instead of explaining an error in her calculations.

    What Ron discovered is that (1) there has been some divergence between Jewish high achiever surnames and classic American Jewish names, apparently due to immigration, (2) Harvard Hillel put out exaggerated or obsolete overestimates of the Jewish numbers for years to help their fundraising and student recruitment.

    • 回复: @utu
  308. utu 说:
    @academic gossip

    Ron Unz addressed the points you are repeating here in the past on several occasions. For example here:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/meritocracy-response-to-prof-gelman-on-jewish-elite-
    overrepresentation/

    I am quite satisfied with his response. It seems that you are engaging in wishful thinking trying to cast spells on reality to change it to your liking. You magic powers do not work.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @academic gossip
  309. Anonymous[153]• 免责声明 说:
    @utu

    Academic gossip defending the honour of Lady Byatch?

    What could, possibly, go wrong?

    • 回复: @academic gossip
  310. @utu

    You are mistaken, or lying.

    Ron never answered Nurit Baytch’s replication of his surname counting on the Harvard (etc) directories, i.e., the assertion that using the same method on the NMS and Harvard data gives approximately the same estimate of the representation of Jews in both populations.

    He only addressed (that is, evaded) it very indirectly by complaining about “private data sets”. The problem is that as N.B. pointed out, there are public directories too. Princeton’s is particularly easy to search and I provided the code in recent comments.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  311. @Anonymous

    I seem to be the only commenter at 乌兹网 that Ron has publicly lauded for high quality of contributions (look it up). Steve Sailer also seems to have picked up on that judging from his recent postings and comments. I’m pretty sure that Ron takes notice of what I say to him since, from past experience, he has realized it differs from run of the mill opining by anonymous Internet cowboys, especially as regards issues of evidence, data and analysis.

    It is not an accident that immediately after I took Ron to task about the Baytch calculations in comments at Sailer’s blog, he posted a face-saving comment to exit that discussion, and then took the opportunity to misdirect about it here in his current blog post.

    At any rate, there is a limit to how much publicity Ron can drum up for his Meritocracy piece without having to address Baytch’s calculations and his gross errors on indicators such as the science competitions (see my post above with a bit of relevant data). It doesn’t really matter who is bringing it up or for what reason when the data is out there for everyone to examine.

    • 回复: @utu
  312. denk 说:
    @anon

    嗜盐菌

    Try these for size….
    Grade A stuff,

    庞培
    ‘ China is a greater threat to the United States than Russia, ‘

    Pence…
    We will not be intimidated; we will not stand down,
    [China intimidating fukus ? WTF]

    [更多]

    约翰·博尔顿
    ‘ in addition to Russia, there’s “sufficient national security concern” that China, Iran, and North Korea are meddling in the 2018 U.S. elections.

    the major issue of the 21st century for the United States is China due to its ability to build economic and military power while violating international norms.’

    马蒂斯
    ‘ US is not out to contain China,’
    [sure, black is white, war is peace]

    ‘China must have respect for international rules and for all nations’ sovereignty’
    [咳嗽]

    川普酒店
    almost every student that comes over to this country is a spy设立的区域办事处外,我们在美国也开设了办事处,以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

    BUt you aint seen nuthin yet,

    克莱夫汉密尔顿
    ‘Chinese in Oz are China’s 5th columns.
    The students, academics, scientists, businessmen, Chinese Australians…the lot.

    China is using fake history to position itself to make a future claim over Australia

    in the event of a war with China, local Chinese people, “citizens and non-citizens alike,” would “create ongoing and potentially severe civil strife” orchestrated by “the Chinese embassy in Canberra.=
    [Hamilton is an aussie, like I say, this is a 5lies co-ordinated conspiracy]

    Nothing new about those, playing the Chinese bogeyman has been a bipartisan sport since 1949.
    Apparently it’s a sure fire way to garner votes during an election, meaning the sheeples bought into it hook line and sinker !

    Josh Barnes is a prime example.

    Ditto FKA MAX/war mountain blair, who advocate a renewal of the Chinese exculsion act.
    Already the move to bar Chinese from studying and working in fukus is a step in this direction.

    Caldre who claims ‘China is far worse than us’ [sic]

    More, tip of an iceberg,
    AttilaC, Gt, Joe Webb…

    Then there’r those who parrot the official line…
    China is our REAL enemy’

    ‘If China retaliates on the trade war, lets turn it into glass’

    Sinophopia is real and very nasty,
    its bi partisan, across the ideological spectrum, whether left, right , centre, just that you havent been paying attention.

    Every time I read about some ‘Asian discrimination’ news , always turns out that it’s all about ‘discrimination against Chinese’.
    HIgh time to call a spade a spade.

    • 回复: @anon
  313. utu 说:
    @academic gossip

    哈佛和NKVD有什么区别?

    None. Jews work very hard to hide their overrepresentation in both.

    • 回复: @academic gossip
  314. Alden 说:
    @Dan Hayes

    That happened to the survivors of the San Juan de Portugal and the San Juan de Baptista The locals were after the right of salvage as those 2 ships ended up close to shore in shallow waters. So they and contents could be salvaged easily.

    But law of the sea at the time (plus
    custom) meant salvage rights only clicked in if there were no survivors. So the locals rushed in to kill the sailers.
    The local English garrison saved the survivors, tied them up, and. shipped them back to England. They were sent back to Spain.

    • 回复: @Dan Hayes
  315. @utu

    That’s why Hillel reports 57 to 67 (sic) percent Jewish graduate students at Harvard on their website. To hide their overrepresentation.

    How is it hiding overrepresentation to use Ron’s method on the Harvard (Princeton, Stanford, …) student and alumni directories? Isn’t that actually 必要 for reaching his conclusions, i.e., to use the same method on both the National Merit lists and Harvard College? If replicating his method shows no Jewish over-representation then either he underestimated the NMS, or whatever declines may have occurred in Jewish academic qualification have been reflected in a proportional decline of Harvard Jewish population. Either way Ron is wrong about the admission.

    The beauty of having public online directories is if you don’t believe Baytch’s calculations you can check the numbers yourself and post the results. Of course, then other people can check your work too. I think crowdsourcing of a Baytch replication would be useful here, and also doing Ron’s estimates on the Harvard “Class Reports” that they mail out to each class’ alumni. Those have alphabetized lists of the former Harvard College students.

    • 回复: @utu
  316. Alden 说:
    @dearieme

    This is exactly what he wrote

    “I have tall blue eye’d blonde nieces who have been accepted by Ivy League colleges in the top 3. I gather their parents did research the SAT coaching business but they got in on excellent English A level results.”

  317. utu 说:
    @academic gossip

    You are humorless stupid byatch.

    • 回复: @Anon
  318. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    So name the American Ivy League colleges that admitted your nieces. You can’t can you because like many Americans and most foreigners you think Ivy League college is just another term for top college prestige college top 20 college. It’s not.

    Look at the admissions criteria on the college websites. The SATs do have subject exams in every high school subject that are very similar to the English A level exams. Very few, including the actual Ivy League colleges require subject exams although a student may submit them. Few kids take them unless they know they will get an outstanding grade in a subject exam.

    American colleges require SAT and ACT exams which are tests of verbal and math ability. The American SATs are given in Australia. It’s one exam, both verbal and math on the same day Can’t take one without the other

    So name your nieces American Ivy League colleges.

    Different countries, different tests different systems.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  319. Alden 说:

    The ICE people vs SUN people thing was created by the African studies people.

  320. anon[228]• 免责声明 说:
    @Dan Hayes

    still graffiti on the walls near Liverpool (UK )on the underground tunnel show the prayers and longings for the shipwreck s that would have brought them relief from hunger and the elements of the nature.

  321. Ron Unz 说:
    @academic gossip

    He only addressed (that is, evaded) it very indirectly by complaining about “private data sets”. The problem is that as N.B. pointed out, there are public directories too. Princeton’s is particularly easy to search and I provided the code in recent comments.

    Well, I managed to locate the link you provided some time ago to a public directory of Princeton undergrads, and also dug out my old Meritocracy spreadsheets from 6 years ago so I could perform a quick Weyl analysis. Unless I’m missing something, the results seem pretty consistent with the old Hillel figures that I used in my 2012 Meritocracy analysis.

    Obviously, Weyl analysis is merely a sampling technique, and on a relatively small dataset such as Princeton’s current 5394 undergrads would certainly not be expected to produce exact results.

    In my analysis, I used two separate Jewish surname samples, which I designed J1 and J2. According to my J1 analysis Princeton undergrads are currently 10.75% Jewish and according to J2 10.23% Jewish. It’s perfectly possible that the distribution of Jewish surnames has slightly changed over the last 6 years, which might slightly impact this figure.

    Since I don’t know anything about the Princeton public dataset, perhaps it doesn’t actually include all students, with a certain fraction refusing to participate for privacy reasons or whatever, in which case my Weyl analysis estimates would be somewhat lower than the correct figure.

    According to the figures from Hillel I used in my big article, Princeton was 13% in 2012 and had been on a gentle downward trajectory for many years. Based on this history, it seems perfectly possible to me that Princeton Jewish enrollment would have dropped another point or two in the six years that followed, especially once my Meritocracy bias findings were widely discussed among the admissions officers. Therefore, my Weyl analysis of the current enrollment figures seem *完全* consistent with my 2012 analysis.

    Meanwhile, Hillel’s recently “new and improved” estimate for Princeton Jews is only 8%, which seems rather on the low side.

    So please do explain to me why the public Princeton dataset you cite doesn’t generally confirm the analysis in my 2012 paper.

    Sometimes ideological zealots can see things that aren’t really there. As I mentioned in my article, Prof. Mertz conclusively demonstrated in her 10,000 word peer-reviewed article that roughly 95% of all the world’s best math students have always been male…and then claimed that conclusively proved that men and women had exactly equal mathematical aptitude…

    • 回复: @utu
  322. 1. For purposes of replication can you clearly define the J1 and J2 estimators as you used them in the Meritocracy article? There was some ambiguity about “Gold*” that Baytch had to reverse-engineer (leading to a downward revision in her replication estimates from the blog discussion at Andrew Gelman’s site) so perhaps you can state whether her version of J1-J2 is the same as yours.

    2. Baytch’s results for the Harvard directories (5 – 9 percent) were much lower relative to your Hillel figures. What is your answer to that? See this and the footnotes

    http://sites.google.com/site/nuritbaytch/#Weyl

    3. The Princeton figures of 10-13 percent are in line with the sociologists’ surveys of Harvard (11-14%) and the much more Jewish UPenn (16% in place of 14, don’t know what their lower estimate was). If Upenn is 16% for their very broad definition of Jewishness then Harvard 25% is preposterous. At the current low admission rates there is a lot of randomness as to which Jews get into which Ivy League school and the main factor influencing the relative rates of enrollment is geography, i.e., if Harvard has an unusually high number compared to Princeton or UPenn that would require some unique mechanism that exists only at Harvard (undercutting your theory of how a Jew surplus would develop). So we expect H and P and UPenn etc to be similar, not Harvard as a huge 25% outlier.

    Basically every indicator other than your old Hillel number points to 10-15 percent Jews at Harvard, which is consistent with the experience of anyone who has been there this millenium. I don’t know anyone who has been to the campus for any extended period lately and thinks half the whites are Jewish. This is why people like Baytch, a recent graduate, are confident in disputing your numbers.

    I will add more later but the above should be enough for continued discussion.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @FKA Max
  323. Sometimes ideological zealots can see things that aren’t really there.

    Sure. Like taking a sample with three white students (the 2010-2012 US IMO teams) and seeing a “collapse” of Jewish numbers to 0% in the 2010’s. In fact 3 of the 9 white students on the past 10 years’ IMO teams appear to be ethnic Jews. Or 30% if you “help” the Gentile representation by allowing half-Asians.

    I will post the numbers when I have time, but it looks like the past decade’s white American IMO + IPhO + IOI population is at least 40% Jewish. Jews have not collapsed relative to whites on these things. Asians have suppressed the total of (W+J) but with little change to J/W over the years.

    I was surprised by that, because my prior assumption was identical to your conclusion: American Jews have become too fat and happy to compete academically as they used to. What I learned from looking at the data is that the obvious imminent collapse of Jewish academic performance never went through the formality of taking place. There was a boost in the 80-90s from high skilled Russian immigration that ended, so a decade or two of absurd representation became high representation again, at roughly the historical levels. Those Russians have college age kids today, so if natural trends of later-generation laziness are to prevail, it may not be visible until the 2020’s or later.

  324. anon[216]• 免责声明 说:
    @denk

    those clowns don’t represent me but i’m sure you can find more of their type saying the same thing about Russia and i’m sure you can find higher ups in the Chinese govt saying similar things about the U.S. but nobody calls them similar names so get over it.

    btw i hear that if Americans could read the Chinese forums they would be shocked at what’s written there because the Chinese are salivating at the thought of taking over the U.S. and exploiting the natural resources here

    • 回复: @denk
  325. Ron Unz 说:
    @academic gossip

    For purposes of replication can you clearly define the J1 and J2 estimators as you used them in the Meritocracy article?… I will add more later but the above should be enough for continued discussion.

    I specified the J1 and J2 Weyl surname sets in the Quantitative Appendix to my original article, with any slight ambiguity in my wording having no significant impact upon the Princeton results I derived. So it sounds like you never bothered carefully reading my article.

    You repeatedly referred to a public Princeton database as clearly proving how totally false my 2012 analysis was. Yet now that I’ve actually checked it, it’s absolutely consistent with my 2012 Meritocracy results. It’s pretty obvious that you never bothered using it yourself before repeatedly citing it to attack and denounce me.

    Given your demonstrated track-record of laziness, incompetence, and dishonesty, I can’t see why I should bother wasting any more time on your nonsense.

    I suggest you return to your other regular hobby of lobbying Congress for erecting national monuments to Leo Frank, one of America’s greatest hero-martyrs….

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Tyrion 2
  326. utu 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Why is Princeton number (13%) significantly lower than Harvard (25%) and other Ivy schools?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  327. Anonymous[153]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I suggest you return to your other regular hobby of lobbying Congress for erecting national monuments to Leo Frank, one of America’s greatest hero-martyrs….

    哈哈。

  328. Tyrion 2 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Given your demonstrated track-record of laziness, incompetence, and dishonesty, I can’t see why I should bother wasting any more time on your nonsense.

    I suggest you return to your other regular hobby of lobbying Congress for erecting national monuments to Leo Frank, one of America’s greatest hero-martyrs

    This is a case-study in Free Introduction:

    “Cognitive dissonance is the mental conflict that people experience when they are presented with evidence that their beliefs or assumptions are wrong.”

    He identified yet another place where you put your thumb on the scale but politely asked only for clarification. Any person not in dissonance would have been perfectly happy to explain, and yet you went beserk.

    Since you own the website you could delete your response, this comment and do better.

    • 回复: @utu
  329. Ron Unz 说:
    @utu

    Why is Princeton number (13%) significantly lower than Harvard (25%) and other Ivy schools?

    Actually, Princeton had always had a somewhat “Southern” orientation, drawing much more from Dixie than any of the other Ivies, and probably for that reason, its Jewish percentage has always been far, far lower than Harvard or Yale. As one of my Meritocracy charts indicates, until about 1950, it was rarely above parity in Jewish enrollment, while Harvard and Yale had been at 300% or 500% of parity for decades.

    I’m pretty sure that’s why Princeton was so viciously attacked as “anti-Semitic” in 1999, despite having a Jewish president, Jewish provost, and massive Jewish over-representation. It actually *有* been anti-Semitic 60 or 70 years earlier, and there’s always a big timelag effect…

    • 回复: @utu
    , @academic gossip
  330. utu 说:
    @Tyrion 2

    What else do you want? Ron Unz applied the same methodology he did on NMS lists to the Princeton data and obtained Hillel’s number for Princeton. It is a perfect check of consistency, validity and accuracy. The case is closed.

    • 回复: @academic gossip
  331. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @academic gossip

    Did you read this paragraph!?

    These arguments based on general plausibility are strongly supported by quantitative evidence, and ironically enough, it is Baytch herself who provided it. Around the time she produced her lengthy and unpublished document, Harvard Hillel was claiming a Jewish undergraduate enrollment of 25%, and near the beginning of her text, she claimed that figure was obviously false by citing a Harvard Crimson survey indicating that only 9.5% of the Class of 2017 were Jewish. However, she failed to notice that the survey referred to being religiously Jewish, which is entirely different than being Jewish in the broader ethnic or ancestral sense, especially since Jews are among the most secular population in American society and a full 42% of the Harvard students described their religious beliefs as atheist, agnostic, or “other.” Indeed, a worldwide survey finds that only 38% of (ethnic) Jews follow the Jewish religion. So if the Crimson survey were correct and Harvard Jews were typical in their religiosity, this would imply that 9.5% / 0.38 = 25%(!!!) of Harvard freshman were ethnically Jewish, exactly the figure claimed by Harvard Hillel. Fanatic ideologues such as Baytch sometimes have a tendency to score game-ending own-goals without even realizing what they have done.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/#p_1_101

    Atheism is entrenched in American Judaism. In researching their book American Grace, authors Robert Putnam and David Campbell found that half of all American Jews doubt God’s existence. In other groups, that number is between 10 and 15 percent.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-09-26/jew-atheist-god/50553958/1

    来源: http://archive.fo/HN8uw#selection-1393.0-1393.376

    • 回复: @academic gossip
  332. Anon[242]• 免责声明 说:
    @utu

    You really are quite pathetic. Having deposited this claim:

    “Jews work very hard to hide their overrepresentation in both.”

    You then resort to a one-liner meant to somehow serve as a “clever” insult levelled at the poster 学术八卦 and Baytch. It fails on each count yet firmly exposes your lack of understanding of the critical nature of the data related matter 学术八卦 alludes to in #322 [and elsewhere]:

    The beauty of having public online directories is if you don’t believe Baytch’s calculations you can check the numbers yourself and post the results. Of course, then other people can check your work too. I think crowdsourcing of a Baytch replication would be useful here, and also doing Ron’s estimates on the Harvard “Class Reports” that they mail out to each class’ alumni. Those have alphabetized lists of the former Harvard College students.

    You are either lying or incapable of understanding the methodology.

  333. utu 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Thanks. One more question if I may. The parity is based on merit not population, right? How was the merit ratio determined in, say, 1920 when you did not have NMS data?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  334. I specified the J1 and J2 Weyl surname sets in the Quantitative Appendix to my original article, with any slight ambiguity in my wording having no significant impact upon the Princeton results I derived.

    Is NBaytch correct when she says “It turns out Unz had meant {Gold, Goldberg, Golden, Goldman, Goldstein} by “Gold—”, and he had not counted hyphenated names”?

    It’s relevant not only to replicating your results but also to assessing how careful and reliable she was. She went to the trouble of reverse-engineering your method to remove any ambiguity and room for debate over whether she had conducted an exact replication. Typing in the word YES or NO would settle this.

    So it sounds like you never bothered carefully reading my article.

    I carefully read over everything you and N.B wrote on this subject, some parts several times, either replication-testing some results or comparing against data sets (examples in my above posts) before making public comment.

    On the other hand, there is no public evidence that 美味 读过 这里 article, since you have never commented on its main finding, the drastic “replication failure” of your results when using J1 and J2 on the Harvard directory. If you haven’t read it, it has been brought to your attention by now, even with a link directly to the section where she gives the replication analysis. Obviously, challenging my reading ability, or my honesty, or whatever other defects you imagine I may have, does not affect the validity of 这里 results, which are the main and still totally unanswered challenged to your work.

    没什么关于 me is stopping you from answering 这里 发现。

    You have done a great job talking about her physical appearance, ethnicity, fanaticism, etc etc. But never about her replication test of your Harvard numbers (and also, though less importantly, her replications for Princeton, Stanford, NMS data sets, and others).

    Of course the ordinary and intellectual varieties of “Jew-negative” commenters who flock to your Pravda series will continue to cheer you on simply because it suits them ideologically. But I can’t imagine anyone who has followed the data analysis in any detail taking you seriously until you take on Baytch’s analysis. At a minimum her Harvard J1 and J2 counts.

  335. Dan Hayes 说:
    @Alden

    匿名[257]:

    Thank you for your fact-filled response which provided details I was unaware of. This is just one more example of a UR respondent coming through.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Alden
  336. Ron Unz 说:
    @utu

    Thanks. One more question if I may. The parity is based on merit not population, right? How was the merit ratio determined in, say, 1920 when you did not have NMS data?

    No, actually in that particular graph I was using “parity” relative to the national population rather than any “merit” selection, since just as you suggest, “merit” estimates would have been impossible that far back. For example, Princeton was only about 2% Jewish during the 1930s, somewhat below the Jewish percentage of the national population, and very far below the figures for Harvard or Yale.

  337. gregor 说:
    @Ron Unz

    This got me thinking. Current Harvard class is about 52% minority. And the gender split is also, I believe, around 50/50. So the White male slots are only ~25%. Subtract out athletes and Jews and you’re probably looking at roughly ZERO academic slots for White male Gentiles.

    • 回复: @Tyrion 2
    , @Truth
    , @utu
  338. @FKA Max

    That isn’t the Baytch replication analysis (that Ron has yet to answer).

    I already answered Ron’s attempt to scale up from 9.5% on a survey to his desired 25%. Part of the answer is that it contradicts the other data in the same survey. The atheist/agnostic category isn’t nearly large enough to accomodate the rest of the Jews together with the nonreligious Gentiles at the reported rates of atheism. Every Jew would have had to interpret the religion question in Ron’s way, as about religious belief alone, and almost every white Gentile at Harvard would have to be religious. Neither of those are plausible.

    I suggest you click on the link to the Crimson survey to play around with the data and see what I mean. (Ron didn’t answer any of my earlier comment on this, either, but for now I’d like to focus on getting an answer to NB’s replication analysis.)

    • 回复: @FKA Max
  339. @utu

    You do understand that Harvard Hillel and Princeton Hillel are different people using different methods of getting their number, right? Harvard stopped asking students to fill out a “religious preference card” about 25 years ago and (as mentioned in NB’s article) it is very possible that the Hillel simply reported the numbers from that for many years afterward. Princeton is more detailed with its racial statistics, and if they are also more old-fashioned about the religious statistics, or provide more of that type of data to their Hillel, that would also explain a difference in numbers.

    Obviously you are in tremendous rush to declare “case closed” before seeing Ron try to address the failure of J1/J2 replication on the Harvard directories. He could of course claim, without any evidence, that Baytch made up the data, i.e., another Jewish berserker conspiracy. There is too much other data available about Harvard for that to work if she were trying to hide a giant 25% number, but anyway, I look forward to seeing Ron actually answer this issue after 5 years or more.

    Gold-boxing supportive commenters is not an example of answering the issue.

    • 同意: Tyrion 2
  340. Tyrion 2 说:
    @gregor

    Yet the Harvard Organ Society still holds a busy calendar of events. Those damn athletes and their enthusiasm for playing the pipe organ.

    http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/organ/events/

    Or what about all these crazy Jews at the suspended Harvard Christian group?

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/harvard-suspends-christian-student-group-for-removing-lesbian-bible-study-l

    This is a bit silly I know, but you’ve taken the full Reductio Ad Absurdum route, but of your own argument!

    • 回复: @gregor
  341. Ronnie 说:
    @Anon

    The term Kosher salt gained common usage in North America and refers to its use in the Jewish religious practice of shechita (aka koshering / kashering) as opposed to the salt itself being manufactured in accordance with religious guidelines. Some brands further identify “Kosher certified salt” as being certified by a religious body. Salt without added iodine is conventionally referred to as “sea salt”. Actually, in the past year in the NY Times there have been an increasing number of recipes calling for “salt” or “sea salt” rather than Kosher salt. Like the percentage of Jews at Harvard we might hope that meritocracy would gradually reduce this tasteless over-representation and stimulate more exploration of secular brands.

  342. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @academic gossip

    It would be interesting to determine how many of Harvard’s “Protestants” are ethnically/ancestrally Jewish, i.e. their grand parents survived the 大屠杀, etc. About 1/3 of Harvard’s Protestants are African-American and 1/5 are Asian, actually:

    Data from the Pew Research Center that as of 2013, about 1.6 million adult American Jews identify themselves as Christians, most are Protestant.[3][4][5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Christianity_from_Judaism

    There are lots of ways “to play around with the [Crimson] data” https://features.thecrimson.com/2013/frosh-survey/lifestyle.html ...

    美国有多少犹太人?

    Two other groups were not counted as Jews in the report. There are an additional 2.4 million adults in the “Jewish background” category – that is, people who were raised Jewish or had at least one Jewish parent, but who now either identify with a religion other than Judaism (most are Christian) or say they do not think of themselves as Jewish or partially Jewish, by religion or otherwise. Also, there are 1.2 million adults in the “Jewish affinity” category – people who were not raised Jewish, do not have a Jewish parent, and are not Jewish by religion but who nevertheless consider themselves Jewish in some sense.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/02/how-many-jews-are-there-in-the-united-states/

    来源: http://archive.is/U4y9d

  343. DB Cooper 说:
    @CrazedIndiot

    The majority of these H1B subcon are basically scam artists. I know quite a few of them.

  344. @Alden

    I take a number of precautions to reduce the chance of my true identity becoming known to, in particular, Anons and pseudonymous nutters on UR, I am probably considerably better acquainted with the Ivies, plus Oxbridge and other Russell Group universities, plus Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley, Caltech and a few others than you are. Of Harvard, Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Columbia and Princeton let me just give what would be’verification that I am not bullshitting if you are as well informed as you think you are and have noted what I previously said. Top 3 Ivies….Correction Top 4 and I nominate Harvard, Yale, Columbia and Princeton. The last thing I want is any connection between young family members and ageing nutters on UR.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  345. gregor 说:
    @Tyrion 2

    I don’t see a lot of White males in either of your links.

    The White male percentage at Harvard is right around 25%. I feel pretty confidant about that starting number.

    Of those, to get the Gentile subset you’d need to subtract 5% to 12.5%, depending on which number you believe for Jews. I agree with Ron that the higher end is more likely. That leaves us with 12.5%-20% White male Gentiles.

    If the scuttlebutt about 15-20% being athletic scholarships is accurate and those are “overwhelmingly white,” that wouldn’t leave much (especially if there aren’t a lot of Jews on athletic scholarship). Not to mention the legacies/politically connected/donor funded admits who also skew White. Point being that there aren’t a lot of “at large” slots for regular White male applications.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Tyrion 2
  346. denk 说:
    @anon

    those clowns don’t represent me

    unfortunately they seem to represent the majority of murikkans, including lots of UNZ readers.

    * i’m sure you can find higher ups in the Chinese govt saying similar things about the U.S. but nobody calls them similar names so get over it.*

    Zero, nada, zip.

    *btw i hear that if Americans could read the Chinese forums they would be shocked at what’s written there because the Chinese are salivating at the thought of taking over the U.S. and exploiting the natural resources here*

    传闻。

    When I do find something inflammatory in a Chinese forum, its always 反应。
    it could be responding to some wild accusation from Trump and co, or another provocation at China’s doorstep by the USN,

    For example, when Pence claims that ‘fukus is being intimidated by China’, its classic
    bandits crying robbery’,
    the Chinese would be fully justified calling him some [电子邮件保护]#\$%^!

    • 回复: @anon
  347. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I’m not an aging nutter. To repeat, no one is admitted to any of the Ivy League colleges without the verbal and math SATs.

    I gather you finally looked up Ivy League on google.

    I have no interest in your family

  348. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I’m extremely well aquainted with both Stanford and UCLA, having graduated from Stanford and worked at UCLA for 14 years.

    Congratulations on finally googling Ivy League

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  349. Ron Unz 说:
    @gregor

    If the scuttlebutt about 15-20% being athletic scholarships is accurate and those are “overwhelmingly white,” that wouldn’t leave much (especially if there aren’t a lot of Jews on athletic scholarship). Not to mention the legacies/politically connected/donor funded admits who also skew White. Point being that there aren’t a lot of “at large” slots for regular White male applications.

    I’d tend to agree with you, though my impression is that a pretty substantial fraction of the athletic-admits are women, so it’s not really a gender issue. Still, it wouldn’t surprise me if 1/3 to 1/2 of all the white Gentiles were admitted as athletes, and if we then subtract the children of Senators, celebrities, and multimillionaires, there probably aren’t all that many spots left for smart white Gentile students.

    As I’ve mentioned in a previous comment, my impression is that word of the extreme unlikelihood of acceptance has gradually gotten around over the last decade or so, and fewer and fewer “ordinary” white Gentiles are even bothering to apply and get humiliated. Getting accepted is probably just as difficult for Asians, but family pressure forces them to do so anyway.

    • 回复: @academic gossip
  350. Alden 说:
    @Anon

    Like using alleged extra virgin olive oil for frying everything including bacon kosher salt is just another pretentious foodie fad.

    So is pink and lavender Himalayan salt. It comes in little chunks and you have to grind it over the food like pepper.

  351. Alden 说:
    @Dan Hayes

    My brother in law’s from Devon and has family all over Devon and Cornwall
    I always assumed those romantic novels about Cornish shipwreckers were just stories. He’s assured me that piracy was a major industry in Devon and shipwrecking and smuggling the major industries in Cornwall for centuries

    • 同意: Dan Hayes
  352. anon[412]• 免责声明 说:
    @denk

    unfortunately they seem to represent the majority of murikkans

    haven’t you used this twice now?

    you’ll get no sympathy from me any more

    • 回复: @denk
  353. @Alden

    If one is competing with silly congratulations your counterfactual one (really silly because even if I hadn’t been able – unlike that former Harvard admissions officer who included Duke at Al. as Ivies – to name the Ivies 30 years ago anyone commenting on Ron’s 2012 TAC Myth etc had to know which they were**) is beaten by congratulations on being one of many many thousand Stanford graduates and UCLA staff.

    **Actually I can date my confirming that they included the little vaunted Brown (RI in case you don’t know: I had a look three years ago when driving from Newport to NYC) because I was given the subtle and important character of 9th Juror in a production of Reginald Rose’s “Twelve Angry Men”. (Think of the film made famous mostly by Henry Fonda sas 8th juror). In an email about the part and the modification to the old script the young producer was contemplating I explained my unassuming character who rose to the occasion by exhibiting adherence to old fashioned supposedly American values by describing him as a modest member of an old WASP New England family, maybe a statutory officer for a top 100 corporation, member of a decent golf club and graduate of a minor Ivy – say Brown. Himmler knew a lot about Jews. I know a lot about America. Most Americans deserve to be treated at least as well as the Nazis treated Mischlingen in the Wehrmacht but maybe you are an exception.

    • 回复: @Alden
  354. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    3 kids at either Harvard Yale Columbia and or Princeton with financial aid that’s about 120,000 USD tuition and dorm cost. Without financial aid about
    美元250,000。

    Must be a rich family as well as the only students admitted without the American SATs.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  355. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I know exactly where Brown is. Brown is actually very well known because so many TV and print news people are alumni. The liberal arts courses are well known to be very easy so it’s very popular.

    Have you seen the movie Animal House? It’s about the most famous fraternity at Dartmouth which is now and always was a party school. It was men only until the 70s and up in the frozen north the guys spent a lot of time getting drunk

    Cornell is our family legacy school BTW

    Why are you moving away from the 3 alleged nieces who were allegedly admitted to 3 of the “top” Ivy schools on the merits of just one English A level? Did they all get A levels in English or was it a joint effort?

    I caught you in an obvious lie so you think I should be treated worse than the half Jews of Nazi Germany.

    12 angry men is one of the most mawkish liberal PC movies ever made and the Henry Fonda character was awful.

  356. denk 说:
    @anon

    The world dont need your sympathy.

    But please stop exporting ‘democrazies’ to us,
    that’d be good enuff.

    hhhhhehe

  357. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    3 nieces, 4 colleges does one of them commute between Columbia and Princeton?

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  358. Tyrion 2 说:
    @gregor

    Well, yes, Harvard is half minority and half women. That leaves 25% for white men of which 5% is likely Jewish; leaving 20%, as you say.

    Endless hours of extreme investigation seems to have born that out. Not that it is a secret.

  359. @Ron Unz

    I think your information is out of date. Princeton in reality (vs farfetched Hillel estimates) is probably much closer to Harvard in Jewish enrollment and on every other demographic index than it was historically, and much the same for other Ivy League schools, subject to some geographic and school-size effects. These schools no longer have much individual “personality” due to the hypercompetition for each other’s applicants.

    Admission rates have dropped threefold since the mid 1980’s, causing students to double, triple and quadruple the number of applications sent out. This multiplies the overlap between the Harvard, Princeton, Yale etc applicant populations. That and cheaper air travel and the financial aid wars since the late 1990’s between the top universities have caused a homogenization of the applicant pools. Most competitive applicants cannot predict where they will be admitted and the schools that admit them (other than Harvard) cannot be very confident that they will enroll. Demographically, for white and Asian students it becomes essentially a statistical sample from one big fungible population of Ivy League Applicants. (For blacks it is more granular and brain drain effects propagate all the way down the food chain.)

    The scientific-looking graphs of Hillel data that you plotted in your article are just so much pretty nonsense. Accepting it uncritically is yet another sign that your Meritocracy piece was put together without the quantitative intuition or recent university experience that might have helped interpret the data correctly.

    For one thing, nobody who has been at Harvard lately is likely to imagine that it’s more than 15% Jewish or has been so in recent memory.

    For another, it is 数学上不可能 for the percentage of Jewish students to have big up and down jumps year to year as seen in your graph. Isn’t that obvious when you talk about the entire university 4-year enrollment? The number of admitted students is roughly the same every year so the Jewish percentage is the average of the percentage in the last 4 entering classes. Think about what it would take to make the 4 year average jump by 5 percent in one year.

    The Harvard Hillel percentages that you provided for 2006-2012 are: 25, 30, 25.5, 25, 25, 25, 25.
    Assuming that the few years before had 25 percent of entering students Jewish, to go up to 30 in 2007, the fraction of Jews in the entering class would have to be an incredible 45 percent, which is almost the entire white American population at Harvard. Does anyone seriously think that Harvard could admit an entire freshman class of Jews, minorities and international students with zero white Gentiles and not have that be noticed?

    The more likely reality is that Princeton as a smaller school than Harvard has more athletes per capita, therefore a bit more Gentile in its white population, but has a similar fraction of Jews in its white population. The geographic effect is not what it used to be under modern admissions competition. Typical “Southerners” at Princeton are largely children of PhD’s at NIH in Maryland, the Research Triangle in North Carolina and blue island university towns in red states, all of which have plenty of Jews. What Southern effect there is, is compensated by the proximity to the New York, Philadelphia and Northern New Jersey area with large Jewish populations.

    All in all Princeton has a very similar population than Harvard and its Hillel counts things more strictly. The actual Jew fraction among whites must be relatively close at the two schools — as Nurit B found in her J1 and J2 counts.

    • 回复: @academic gossip
    , @FKA Max
  360. @academic gossip

    The more likely reality is that Princeton as a smaller school than Harvard has more athletes per capita, therefore a bit more Gentile in its white population, but has a similar fraction of Jews in its non-athlete 白人

    Missing word added. (5 minute edit window a bit short for long comments…)

  361. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You don’t know anything about the Indians in American tech and you don’t know anything about thecAmerucan college entrance and professional certification exams.

    Yet you keep commenting as if you know something about the exams and Indians in tech.

  362. @Ron Unz

    my impression is that word of the extreme unlikelihood of acceptance has gradually gotten around over the last decade or so, and fewer and fewer “ordinary” white Gentiles are even bothering to apply and get humiliated. Getting accepted is probably just as difficult for Asians, but family pressure forces them to do so anyway.

    On the contrary, the wealthiest schools have been getting more and more applications, due to their financial aid programs, and the vicious spiral of lower admission rates leading to more applications leading to lower rates of admission.

    At the white and Asian application rates reported in the current Harvard lawsuit, any big increase in application numbers must include a rise in the number and percentage of whites who apply. There is a lot more room for growth in the white Gentile numbers than the Jewish ones. Harvard in the mid 2000s started a recruitment and financial aid initiative to raise the number of rural, lower-income and first generation college applicants and there are similar things at other schools. For all those reasons I would expect a growth in Gentile applications over time, not the contraction that you suppose. If you have evidence of a decline in Gentile application numbers (other than the auto-religious conviction that the Meritocracy piece was correct) that would be pretty interesting to see.

    • 回复: @Alden
  363. @Alden

    You do seem a bit obsessive about these things. Enough to disturb your psychological equilibrium and chatter about catching me out in an unstated lie while actually misquoting me! And not, you say, interested in my family you said!!)You don’t seem to have been calm enough to grasp that what I said was that the results were A*s in several separate A level subjects. Actually I compressed the facts a bit because I presumed that the younger who got 3 A*s and a D for distinction which is higher than A* would get in as her older sister who only got 3 x A*s and an A had already. And, now equally avoiding too ready identification I admit that I am making further inquiry about the SAT etc, directly to those that know. It may be that a course such as a combined double degree course [let’s say Heidelberg two years then Princeton two years to give the true flavour] doesn’t necessarily require sitting for SAT (though I may have an answer to that in a few minutes) and so our mutual misunderstanding of the total reality is reconciled. Or of course you could be just dogmatically wrong 🙂

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Tyrion 2
  364. @Alden

    Still keeping up a bit of a veil, though not so as to obscure any relevant reality, think of me as the rich uncle or gay cousin who regards it as philanthropic to ensure that those who might share his good genes and work hard can be helped by one of the family sayings:”we can’t afford it but we can pay for it”. Actually not 3 (where did you get that?) but 2 and I think the worthy occupations of the parents and their taxable incomes may be such as to ensure financial assistance.

  365. @Alden

    It’s so long since I saw the original Twelve Angry Men that I can’t remember my political/ideological reaction to it, and viewing it again on line on a phone in Dutch with English subtitles (or was it the other way round?), didn’t revive the memory. I can quite imagine how plenty of right of centre Americans might react today, judging by comments on UR. Of course Australia abolished capital punishment decades ago so the production I was in was adapted to take the emotional element of that out of it. And our powerful Lee J Cobb character was a feisty female prosecutor whose PhD thesis showed her to be a paid up feminist as well as good actor (I saw her later in The Vagina Monologues!

    My reaction for most of my life would have been underpinned by a strong belief in proof beyond reasonable doubt and somewhat intellectually snobbish disdain for popular prejudice. So… “liberal” in American terms? I don’t know. Liberal means the Mill version to me.

  366. utu 说:
    @Alden

    First time I encountered the W. of O. character here the persona he projects here made me think of Major H. O. Jones from Graham Greene’s The Comedians. Boastful confidence man who is a caricature of Britishness. He was played by Alec Guinness in the film adaption.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  367. @Wizard of Oz

    Well it seems I was wrong about A levels being enough for my niece. She did do the SAT apparently and, apparently right in the middle of a lot of other activity including leading parts in plays instead of following the advice to take a gap year and do them then. Fortunately she made it.

  368. @Alden

    I don’t even remember how this began but you seem to have got into a muddle with false facts based on nothing but your misremembering something which you would be right to think unimportant. 3 was never a number you got from me.

    • 回复: @Alden
  369. Anonymous[155]• 免责声明 说:
    @utu

    the persona he projects

    That’s one of the main problems with Wiz. He’s old, dull and out of touch but still desperate to impress. Result: boring, flowery language wrapped around muddy arguments and zero insight. I regularly skip his “contributions”.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Wizard of Oz
  370. Tyrion 2 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    a D for distinction which is higher than A*

    That was on the Advanced Extension exam. Most people don’t know about it because most people don’t take it. A Distinction is the highest grade only on AE.

    The nature of your mistake means either you are the world’s most excellent liar or you’re telling the straight truth.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  371. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Comment 166 last paragraph your exact words.

    “ I have tall blonde blue eyed nieces who have been accepted by Ivy League colleges in the top 3. I gather their parents did research the SAT coaching business but they got in on excellent English A level reaults”

    Your exact words. Now it’s SATs and 11 A levels

    So your nieces did take the American SATs something you’ve denied for several comments.

    If you want to fight go get drunk and belligerent in Australia.

    • 巨魔: Tyrion 2
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  372. Alden 说:
    @academic gossip

    Low income and first generation is the code for non White.

    Most rural Whites who have the grades and SATs to be competitive for Ivy League schools are 2nd and 3rd generation college grad families.

    Rural areas have accountants Drs attorneys and businesses as well as farmers and farm laborers.

    The White child of the a farmer attorney veterinarian or business owner will always be turned down in favor of a 3rd generation welfare black or brown.

  373. Alden 说:
    @Anonymous

    I think I’ll put him on my ignore list. He should have checked the admissions pages of some Ivy League schools before claiming the nieces got accepted on the strength of 1 A level in English.

    He just has to jump in whether he knows anything about the subject being discussed or not

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Wizard of Oz
  374. Harvard undergraduate admissions mystery regarding Asians versus Jews now solved!

    “纽约时报”,10月25,2018

    http://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/us/harvard-admissions-trial-asian-americans.html

    引用:

    Admissions documents filed in court awarded advantages to applicants for “unusually appealing personal qualities,” which could include “effervescence, charity, maturity and strength of character.” Now “reflective” could be a plus as well.

    冒泡 = neurotic
    性格的力量 = presumptuous
    反射 = narcissistic

    Admissions paradox regarding Whites and Jews remains unspoken.

  375. @Alden

    You remind of the fact that even Rhodes Scholars who had been at top US universities – I have in mind one American in particular from Princeton who became a friend – were sometimes pushed to do supplementary English studies in London before going up to Oxford.

    Stanford apparently didn’t teach you to be able to notice that my words did not carry the meaning that I had 3 nieces. I had referred to more than one niece but it is obtuse of you to try to wring out of “in the top 3” an unambiguous or even possible reference to my having family members at 3 universities especially when anyone with a flea’s attention span would remember that I was obviously avoiding identifying the particular university of which you asked the name and, quite explicitly, avoiding too much identifying information.

    As to identity, are you one and the same as the Commenter who used to use the moniker “Alden”? Why the change?

    • 回复: @Alden
  376. @Tyrion 2

    Thanks. I think I did probably get the AE included in the explanation when I asked about the meaning of D. I remained irritated that neither of them included maths in their subjects as I preach to all who will listen and many who won’t that the fundamentals for any bright child should include maths at a high level and that in 20 years time anyone who doesn’t speak Chinese will be like someone who doesn’t speak English today. I seem to have let slip an older mantra about Economic History being the next best thing to a replacement for the Classics as the foundation of a good education….

  377. @Alden

    Do you remember what the issue was originally that you decided to make such a porridge of? Probably not as you are still neurotically talking nonsense about “1 A level in English” which is conjured from nowhere but your fevered depths.

    Moreover you are plain silly jabbering about the Ignore list as a moment’s thought will tell you that it can’t work as you would like. If anyone is an unwelcome correspondent you can’t stop them arriving in your Inbox with a message aimed at you simply by replying to you.

    I suppose you could cut yourself off by choosing to provide a false email address, which is allowed, and thereby cut off your nose to spite your face because it would presumably misdirect all replies intended for you. What were the standards for admission to Stanford when you were admitted?

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Alden
  378. @Alden

    And it is a bit superficial, if not naive, to suggest that looking at the “admissions page of *一些* Ivy League schools” is going to give you the complete story. Perhaps you should have picked up your legacy and hoped to learn some rigour at Cornell.

    • 回复: @Alden
  379. anon[302]• 免责声明 说:
    @utu

    First time I encountered the W. of O. character here the persona he projects here made me think of Major H. O. Jones from Graham Greene’s The Comedians. Boastful confidence man who is a caricature of Britishness.

    lol, i was thinking Thurston Howell III from Gilligan’s Island

    he’s very concerned about keeping up appearances

  380. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Give it up. Your nieces did not get accepted at Ivy League colleges with just one A level as you first claimed before you thought to google admissions websites. Look at your comment 166 in which you stated they were accepted on just 1 A level.

    • 回复: @dearieme
  381. Alden 说:
    @Anonymous

    Most school science projects are done by the parents if only to get rid of the materials cluttering the living room.

    Between the homework burden, school projects and parental involvement duties home schooling is a better way to go.

    I don’t see the difference between 4 hours a day home schooling and 4 hours a day homework and projects after 6 or 7 hours at school.

    What are they doing at school that 3 hours of homework and school projects are necessary?

    How about school ends at 2 and they keep the kids in a homework study hall with tutors until 5 instead of throwing the responsibility all in the parents?

    If I hire someone to paint my house, I don’t work along with him her. If I hire an accountant I don’t redo his or her work
    Why should parents do the teachers work, especially when the parents commute and work 60 70 hour weeks to pay for the school system?.

  382. Cassandra 说:
    @Roberto

    It doesn’t matter, the point is that the money stays in one place. You can hire the math kid and pay him a few hundred thousand, toss in some stock options, but the owners, the moneyed class, the ones making billions off the backs of those kids, they’re Goldman Sachs. They hire from Ivys and keep the money in the family.

  383. Ron Unz 说:
    @Skeptikal

    I was shocked at the lack of qualifications for a position in the admissions dept. at Wellesley of a young woman of my personal acquaintance. This woman was very lah-de-dah when she described how the group would read through applications and basically joke as they tossed one into the acceptance pile and the next one into the rejection pile.

    This young woman had zero qualifications to be deciding on the fate of girls applying to Wellesley. She didn’t even seem to take her role seriously, and she herself was a graduate of a decent but not stellar college.

    That’s very consistent with the accounts of the three or four “insider” books I read on elite admissions practices, which totally shocked me at the time. Just imagine the enormous time and effort those top students had put into producing those application packages…

    Frankly, I think America’s current system for selecting the next generation of our national elites via those top colleges is about the strangest one could imagine. Probably something involving random selection would be less ridiculous, as I suggested at the end of my Meritocracy article.

  384. @Alden

    I went to a southern party school and I can tell you Dartmouth had nothing on us. In fact, I suspect Animal House was based on a southern school because the fictional band at the party, “Otis Day and the Knights,” is a black soul band, which was the rule at southern schools in those days (late 60s.) I suppose northern schools might also have gone in for black soul bands at frat parties, but at any rate they were standard in the south. Even white bands at frat parties played soul music exclusively, though by the end of the decade hippie music was taking over.
    As for all-male education, all or nearly all the Ivies were all-male in those days, as was my southern school, though some of the Ivies had female sister schools that were part of the same university in most respects (Radcliffe, Pembroke, Barnard come to mind.)
    “Coeducation” was the rule at state universities but many (most?) private liberal arts colleges were all-male or all-female.

    • 回复: @Alden
  385. Alden 说:
    @jack daniels

    I think the writer of animal house was a Dartmouth alumnus that’s how the story spread.

    Those were the days. Fun fun and a great library.

  386. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Check your comment 166 about the 1 A level that got your nieces accepted at 3 Ivy League schools

  387. dearieme 说:
    @Alden

    But he didn’t claim any such thing. I suggest that you translate his original comment into your mother tongue. That might clarify its meaning for you.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  388. anon[405]• 免责声明 说:
    @dearieme

    why do you keep defending him?

    isn’t that twice now?

    • 回复: @Alden
  389. Skeptikal 说:

    Re legacy applicants, it seems unavoidable that the more professors, administrators, and high-level donors are Jewish, the more of their children will be “legacy” applicants, and the number of legacy acceptances that are Jewish will keep growing, as the universe that produces Jewish legacy students continues to expand.

    As I stated before, I suspect that the demands of heavy-hitter Jewish donors with a chip on their shoulder about not being part of the final clubs scene is partially responsible for the jihad against these clubs. Even though most of the clubs have changed a lot, and, more important, there are many, many other clubs—also clubs for women—that are NOT final clubs, and these, too, are outlawed or their members are sanctioned. The Harvard administration states that the university will itself establish the clubs that students need for socializing and other purposes.

    Really, the uni will take over the brief of “creating” free association opportunities for the students?

    To me this screams totalitarianism and Gleichschaltung.

    In a previous chapter, maybe ca. twenty years ago, the Harvard houses were rigorously scrubbed of their unique personalities and atmosphere, created via a long-term process of self and other selection and also by the personality and interests of the house masters and house institutions. The core unit of the house was the suite, whereby a group of students (after freshman year) lived together in a quasi-apartment setting with individual bedrooms and a living room and one or two bathrooms. Many of these groups of friends, which formed in freshman year, stayed together for the whole four years, and remained close throughout their lives.

    So, first the assignment to a house after freshman year is now done by a computer or lottery something. No more house personality. (So, why shouldn’t admission to Harvard itself be done the same way? In fact, it appears that Harvard practices the type of discriminatory selection process that it accuses the clubs, in particular, final clubs, of doing.)

    Harvard also now disapproves of suite living and wants to force students into the house common room. I hear that the suite system is being destroyed: the interiors are being gutted and instead there will be fewer suites, if any, and mainly corridors with individual rooms. The bathrooms will be in the hallways, not within suites. Etc. Harvard is really reengineering itself according to “updated” management of students’ social life. It is highly ironic that what with all of this social engineering supposedly to advance diversity and throw together students who maybe just don’t want to be thrown together and would prefer to hang out with their friends in their suites and clubs, Harvard still keeps its finger on the admissions scales in a way that works against and belies these social engineering aims.

    Oh, yes, gotta build up the endowment! We don’t have enough money—or real estate–yet!!
    I am totally in favor of making Harvard undergraduate education free for all qualified students, as suggested by Ron Unz. Harvard can afford it. This would be the most effective way for Harvard to genuinely build up a cadre of highly intelligent, qualified leaders in this country, plus provide a model for the role that universities should play in preparing “future leaders.”

    NB: “Tuition fees at public universities in France have variable prices, depending on your chosen study level. Bachelor’s programmes, the average tuition fees are around ***190 EUR*** per year. Engineering degrees have higher tuition fees of around ***620 EUR*** per academic year.” (The public universities are the top-level universities.)

  390. @dearieme

    Thank you for noticing her neurotic semiliterate aggression based on utter trivia. She doesn’t seem to have noticed that I have long since admitted my error (trivial and irrelevant to the minor issue originally raised by my questioning whether memorisation of exam questions would be needed – the kind of comment I often make briefly when I suspect BS and hope to tease out evidence, or clarification).

    The problem seems to go back to my #140 where I was rude enough to point to her ambiguity and note that her gratuitous and erroneous (and offensively intended) assertion and assumption that I am Jewish said more about her than me.

    “Sad” as the Trumpster might say.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Alden
  391. @FKA Max

    I would be interested in your comments on the accuracy and the implications of some calculations I made 10 or 15 years ago in answer to Cochran’s heavy emphasis on the higher fertility of the smart businessmen and rabbis. I calculated that 500 years of depriving dim Jewish males (say 1.5 ad below average: I don’t remember my hypothetical cut off) of the chance to marry Jewish girls would lead on ordinary heritability assumptions to a rise in average IQ from 100 to 115. Greg was dismissive of the mechanism but didn’t dispute the maths. I recall citing the difficulty a dim kid might have in learning what was needed for a Bar Mitzvah and imagining a situation where a 35 year old widow/innkeeper with kids might take on a dim young man to cut the wood and share her bed occasionally but not father any children. I envisaged dim Jews joining the gentle peasant community if they survived at all.

    • 回复: @Alden
  392. @Anonymous

    Why would I want to impress you!? Why indeed would I want to impress 85 per cent of commenters even if wanting to impress people often styled “Anonymous” on internet blogs made sense? But I do enjoy my experiments.

  393. Alden 说:
    @anon

    Dearime is probably wizard of oz. the language and words are the same

    Your own comment 166 wizard No SATs just 1 A level got the nieces into 3 top Ivy colleges despite the fact that all the ivies require SATs.

  394. anon[439]• 免责声明 说:

    NB: “Tuition fees at public universities in France have variable prices, depending on your chosen study level. Bachelor’s programmes, the average tuition fees are around ***190 EUR*** per year. Engineering degrees have higher tuition fees of around ***620 EUR*** per academic year.” (The public universities are the top-level universities.)

    wow, the professors must work for free

  395. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Check the admissions websites. First line is required SATs.

    Maybe you should stop jumping in when you don’t know what you’re talking g about. Or at least do a little googling. You’re typical of your kind, thinking endless arguments will change facts.

    Doesn’t work with me. I took an entire semester of logic and syllogisms at Stanford. And although I’m not a Jew, I’ve been around them all my life and have a lot of their verbal ability, love of arguing and Talmudic reasoning. I can argue for hours although I try not to because it’s not polite. But I love it

    Plus, in this case, I’ve got the facts on my side and even the mega mega Talmudists can’t win an argument against facts

    All Ivies require SATs for admission
    A levels aren’t accepted for Ivy admission
    Therefore no one is accepted at Ivies by submitting 1 A level for admission

  396. Truth 说:
    @gregor

    LOL, you do math like you defend takedowns, Connor.

  397. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    In regard to your earlier comments that the test prep companies don’t send their teachers professional test takers in to memorize specific questions, that’s how it works.

    After all the memorized questions are compiled and the correct answer arrived at, the test prep companies make a new test prep course and publish new test prep books

    It’s not just the college undergrad admissions. Even more people take the test prep courses for admission to grad school medical school and law school.

    Then there are the professional certification exams Bar, nurse doctor accountant Oracle and other computer and engineering certificates.

    It’s a big business. And the companies do have professional test takers /teachers who take the exams and memorize questions as well as teach the courses

    Not being an American, being totally unfamiliar with the test prep process and courses; you decided to jump
    In and post numerous comments displaying your ignorance .

    Keep on showing your ignorance and idiocy by defending your ignorance

  398. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    American test prep companies send their employees to take the tests and memorize questions. Test companies compile new test prep books and courses from those questions

    Wizard of Oz denies that American test prep companies compile new books and courses from the memorized questions

    Therefore, Wizard of Oz is wrong about American test prep courses.

    • 回复: @anon
  399. Alden 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You sure seem to know about how European Jews gradually eased out Jews who couldn’t make it according to their Yeshiva Boy or clever businessman standards

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  400. utu 说:
    @gregor

    According to Ron Unz (Hillel data) 25% are Jews. According to Harvard 50% are whites including Jews. So 25% are white gentiles which are 50/50 male/female. So 12.5% are white male gentiles.

    I suspect that 50% of 12.5% are accepted on “academic merit” and 50% are accepted on “other considerations.”

  401. Anonymous[241]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alden

    Are you finished? At the risk of your assuming a paranoid addition to your obsessive persona and nominating this post as sock puppetry** for your beloved no-longer-admirer the Wizard may I point to a paper trail, so to speak, which places dearieme in the UK and WoZ in eastern Australa. Of course one can’t discount the possibility that a Wizard may have devised ways to beat even the new direct flights between UK and Oz….

    **never forgetting that some paranoid people ARE being followed…

    Nothing is as it seems. Should I pick up and repeat that question already posed? Why is the lady Alden now an Anon?

  402. anon[436]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alden

    May I proffer some advice on clear thinking, analysis and exposition to anyone prone to being overtaken by agitation

    Take, as an illustrative example, an innocent enough question by an outsider as to why it could be necessary to get people to memorize a few questions for the purposes of coaching for exams.

    Here’s how you might rationally approach it. Say to the innocent questioner

    1. Consider first whether readily available papers/questions from previous years will suffice for prepping and how they may be used.

    Not sufficiently close to what the student is about to face because either there are radical changes from previous years or your students are too dumb to be expected to improvise at all on material that isn’t totally memorized and readied for regurgitation?

    2. So you need papers which are currently being used without adaptation or alteration at several different places and times so that, for those who can contrive to sit them late, they can be fully prepared with perfect answers (assuming they are not some of those test takers who, apparently, can only memorize 5 questions).

    3. Right, problem defined. Check, is it? OK we have got to learn what those current questions are asap. Do the testers actively prevent the exam papers being removed from the exam room? No need because the questions are not on any printed paper but on a temporary electronic display? Check that.

    4. Presumably those tested do have access to paper and instruments for writing on it so what is to stop some written on piece of paper with enough cryptic prompt to memory on it getting all the questions out at once? Body searches? Paper doesn’t show up well on magnetic or even X Ray scanners of people. But what about writing on skin, especially tattooed skin?

    5. Well now we have defined the problems everything falls into place, does it not?

    Well maybe 🙂

  403. crimson2 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Hey, Ron, looks like one of your acolytes in Pittsburgh is killing some Jews. Great work you worthless Nazi cocksucker.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @aba
    , @Anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  404. aba 说:
    @Anonymous

    High Jewish intelligence is a(nother Jewish) myth. Every area they’ve infiltrated (MSM, banking, entertainment, education etc.) is experiencing cascading failures in direct proportion to the number of chosenites in charge. Colour me unimpressed.

    I am seeing that as well. Every institution the Jews take over, they inevitably run it to the ground, from Wall Street to Hollywood, DC swamp to Silicon Valley and everywhere in between – media, academia, law, medicine(esp. psychiatry).

    The main culprit is tribal allegiance. A few smart ones take over an industry, then hire and promote only other Jews who think the same (secular, liberal) and went to the same schools (Ivy League).

    The second biggest culprit is greed. Jews’ hunger for money and power means it’s always I’m here to take mine, eff everyone else. Thus they’ll do whatever’s necessary to get to the top and stay there, eff everyone else.

  405. anon[332]• 免责声明 说:
    @crimson2

    poor jews

    maybe it’ll make up for the Sacklers

    except the guy in Pittsburgh might even go to jail

  406. aba 说:
    @crimson2

    Don’t shoot the messenger. Unz isn’t the one doing all the dirty deeds that are dragging down the country. Take a good look at your best representatives and what they are doing to the country – Soros, Zuckerberg, Brin/Page, Schumer, Blumenthal, Feinstein, Sanders, Adelson, Netanyahu, Debbie Wazzerman Schultz, all those running Hollywood, Wall Street, Ivy League, SV, the media, law.

    • 回复: @aba
    , @crimson2
  407. Ronnie 说:

    IMHO the average Asian following the Harvard lawsuit has no idea about the overrepresentation of Jews at Harvard. I have asked some of them myself and they were totally ignorant of this. The Asian side, to support their case, is actually using the fact that Jews were the target of discrimination at Harvard in the past. The judge has said that she does not think that this is relevant. I would agree with that. In the New Yorker a few days ago Jeannie Suk Gersen has written that “by the class of 1930, as a result of the new discrimination plan, Jewish students made up only “ten” per cent of Harvard’s undergraduates.”

    But all the Jewish publications say that the percentage was reduced from 21% in 1922 to 15% in 1930
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/harvard-s-jewish-problem
    and also say that this had risen to 25% in the sixties (Hillel). http://www.reformjudaism.org/sites/default/files/Col_TopCharts_f14_F_spreads.pdf

    • 回复: @anon
  408. aba 说:
    @aba

    And if there are more honest, self-critical Jews like Unz people might not despise them so much as a group, as they will be less likely to carry on with their Fuck America I do what’s best for me and my tribe 心理。

  409. crimson2 说:
    @aba

    Unlike you Nazi cocksuckers, I’m not going to shoot anybody. Ron spreads hate and encourages you fuckers. He’s a shitty person. You losers sit around here and blame some vast conspiracy for your personal failures. It’s pathetic.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @aba
    , @dcite
  410. utu 说:
    @crimson2

    Ron spreads hate…

    Mr. Unz is searching for truth and is uncovering many lies. If truth is hate then something is wrong with you and the world to which you belong.

  411. aba 说:
    @crimson2

    Jews like you is the reason why there’s such widespread anger with Jews. Look in the mirror before you blame everyone else for hating you and your kind. Dishonesty, arrogance and lack of introspection will always bring disaster, to any group.

  412. aba 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Without a high tech industry, what do Indians do in Australia with all their supposed “high IQ”? Cutting hair?

    High immigration will eventually bring about a self-sustaining economy for each group, i.e. large number of Indian/Chinese/Mexican/Middle Eastern businesses catering only to their own diaspora. The native whites are left in the cold and have no choice but to form their own faction to fight back. Instead of a melting pot, you end up in a parallel universe with many countries existing within a country, each group doing its own thing, with little to no interaction between groups. Each group wants to elect its own politicians to enact laws that benefit only that group instead of the whole country. We are seeing this now with Jews, blacks, Hispanics and Indians increasingly looking out for its own group interest in the US.

    A nation divided against itself cannot stand. High immigration and multiculturalism will eventually bring about collapse of every western country.

  413. JLK 说:

    Both gratuitous anti-semitism and profanity are unhelpful.

    Ron has identified a potential issue of an inexplicable overrepresentation of Jewish students at Harvard and a few bloggers have presented a high-level rebuttal. I wouldn’t call either the analysis or rebuttal scientifically rigorous, but both are scientific to some extent. The debate highlights an issue that seems worthy of deeper study. If Ron’s thesis is true, the mechanisms that led to the overrepresentation should be determined in the interests of a fair society. No powerful group should be immune to study and criticism. If his conclusions are incorrect, the unfair inferences raised should be dispelled.

    There should be more such high-level dialogue on controversial issues on the alternative web. Too much of the content is off the wall, poorly reasoned and half-baked.

    • 回复: @crimson2
    , @utu
  414. J 说: • 您的网站

    Unz: Your anti-Jewish incitement is effective: Jewish blood shed in Pittsburgh. Are you aware of what you are doing?

    • 同意: crimson2
    • 回复: @anon
    , @peterAUS
  415. peterAUS 说:
    @aba

    发现。

    I am sure that the group “Wizard” is part of knows that. They ,那恭喜你, smart people….up to a point, of course.

    They simply believe that in that environment their group will still make all the rules and retain all the main power. Maybe they are correct there.

    Or, maybe they are for some nasty surprises.

  416. anon[449]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ronnie

    In the New Yorker a few days ago Jeannie Suk Gersen has written that “by the class of 1930, as a result of the new discrimination plan, Jewish students made up only “ten” per cent of Harvard’s undergraduates.”

    such a tragedy, limited to 5X their percentage of the population in those institutions built by white folks

  417. anon[449]• 免责声明 说:
    @J

    revealing jewish behaviour tends to make folks angry, that’s why (((they))) want to clamp down on Free Speech

  418. peterAUS 说:
    @J

    Are you aware of what you are doing?

    You are, of course.

    C’mon….spell it out here: what 究竟 would you like Unz to do (or not to do, for that matter )?
    1 ...。
    2 ...。
    等等…。

    等不及了。

    • 回复: @crimson2
  419. crimson2 说:
    @JLK

    Both gratuitous anti-semitism and profanity are unhelpful.

    Equating profanity with anti-semitism and Holocaust denial is some serious fucking bullshit. Ron Unz’s entire website is devoted to anti-semitism. That’s what he does.

    • 回复: @JLK
    , @anon
  420. crimson2 说:
    @peterAUS

    C’mon….spell it out here: what exactly would you like Unz to do (or not to do, for that matter )?

    How about not tonguing the asshole of every Nazi on the internet?

    Hope he runs for Senate in California again, because it will be very fun for me.

    • 回复: @aba
  421. JLK 说:
    @crimson2

    Resorting to profanity sets a shrill, desperate tone. You are a very capable writer. Some of your other posts made me think. You would be much more effective if you avoided profanity.

    • 回复: @peterAUS
    , @crimson2
  422. anon[349]• 免责声明 说:
    @crimson2

    Ron Unz’s entire website is devoted to anti-semitism. That’s what he does.

    the truth is often anti-semitic

  423. aba 说:
    @crimson2

    Unz’s only sin is his commitment to free speech. The shooter is a user of Gab.com, a forum committed to free speech. Don’t blame free speech for this tragedy, blame the actions of those who claim to represent you and your interest, when they are in fact acting in their own best interest.

    Liberals are always quick to blame all shootings on “mental illness” when the targets are white, but when the targets are non-white, they immediately label it “hate crime”. Either all shooters are mentally ill and therefore “victims” themselves, or they are all hateful evil people. Which is it? Make up your mind. Enough with the double standard.

    Btw the shooter is a Trump hater. He called Trump a globalist.

    • 回复: @FKA Max
  424. utu 说:
    @JLK

    both are scientific to some extent

    From what I have seen in Ron Unz presentation it is as scientific as it can be under given circumstances. He used Weyl or its variation method to estimate Jewish fraction in NMS data. Then he used the same method to estimate Jewish fraction in Princeton data. This result checked out with the Hillel estimate for Princeton. This validates his method against Princeton Hillel data. And keep in mind that Princeton Hillel data (13%) are at low end of the Ivy schools and were not contested by Ms. Baytch and others.

    He used Hillel data for other schools including Harvard. Everybody used their data and cited them in various articles ( I saw some in Israel’s papers) until Ron Unz published his article when it became an issue made only by three of his critics, including Ms. Baytch. Hillel never retracted or retroactively corrected their data though recently they started to report numbers lower by circa factor of two in some schools. Possibly now they report only Jews who are active in Hillel programs or possibly they lie.

    Let suppose just for the sake of an argument that Hillel in the past due to ethnic pride and exuberance overestimated numbers of Jews by factor of two. Then the Jewish fraction at Harvard would drop to 12.5% and white gentile fraction would increase to 37.5% which gives a ratio of 1:3. This is a 10 times over representation of Jews with respect to Whites as the ratio of Jews to Whites is about 1:30 in the US and 6 time Jewish over representation in terms of general population.

    Ms. Baytch could say that Ron Unz himself showed that NMS implies 6% Jews on merit and thus the 12.5% is only two fold overrepresentation of Jews at Harvard. However the title of the article is “Racial Discrimination at Harvard” and it is Whites who are the chief victims of discrimination and they are discriminated at 10:1 with respect to Jews.

    But this was just let suppose. I believe that Hillel was reporting correct numbers. Hillel was doing what every Jewish organization does which means fishing out Jewish names from any list of names that falls in their hand. Every rabbi assigned to a jail or prison as a chaplain does it and within few days is able to contact new Jewish arrivals. Hillel is not just interested in religious practicing Judaism Jews but probably even more so in the lost sheep. Hillel is open to all Jews as part of its mission is to promote Judaism among Jews.

    Now return to 25% number of Jews in Harvard and 25% Whites in Harvard which I believe are correct. The numbers can be interpreted as follows in terms of over/under-representation:

    Jews are overrepresented by ratio 12.5:1.
    Whites are underrepresented by ratio: 2.5:1.
    Whites are discriminate at ratio 30:1 with respect to Jews

    Now let’s as calculate the same under the assumption that recruitment should reflect the merit which would be proportional to Ron Unz’s results for NMS which established 6% Jews. Let us underestimate Whites on NMS lists and make it 50% for gentile Whites presuming that remaining 44% are most likely Asians. Thus on merit Jewish to White ratio should be 1:8.33, however it is 1:1 at Harvard. Which means that on merit:

    Jews are overrepresented by ratio 4.16:1
    Whites are underrepresented by ratio 2:1
    Whites are discriminated at ratio 8.33:1 with respect to Jews.

    • 回复: @crimson2
  425. I was a white Protestant kid from a flyover state who went to an Ivy League school. I also happened to be politically conservative.

    There were only a handful of people of my background. It was pretty depressing.

    On the other hand, the Jewish kids seemed to have a blast.

    I won’t encourage my children to follow in my footsteps. I will steer them to the local Christian College where they can meet people more like them. Rankings be damned.

    • 回复: @Bolteric
    , @lysias
  426. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @renfro

    Not surprised. Harvard is a school of greedy bastards, by greedy bastards, and for greedy bastards. Their goal is to cultivate more greedy bastards to keep the franchise going for as long as possible.

    • 回复: @lysias
  427. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @denk

    Most of the CIA was run by the tribe, even if the front man is often a gentile.

    If I were POTUS, I’d take a sledgehammer to the CIA and smash it to smithereens. No other institution has done more to stir up trouble in all corners of the globe than this group of meddlesome evil crackpots.

    Trump railed against them on the campaign trail, but is now part of the swamp.

    If whites are so evil to China, why do so many Chinese keep coming here? So they could come in and make trouble to return the favor? I wish more Americans would wise up and heed your warning.

  428. anon[694]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    所有在国外出生的人都应被视为外国学生,无论他们持有何种护照,都应将其与来自本国的同族裔一起评估为外国学生。

    Congress should then pass a law requiring all universities that receive any form of funding from the US government, be it for research or PELL grant or student loans, to limit their foreign enrollment to no more than 2% of total enrollment. That’s how you put America first.

    Trump’s MAGA agenda is a load of baloney.

  429. Anonymous [AKA "Richard S Ucker"] 说:

    This won’t change until the ethnocentric leadership of these institutions is run out. In EVERY situation in history where Jews are given access, they ultimately push their own ethnic interests while actively opposing other groups that do the same. How many expulsions will it take for people to realize this?

  430. @Ron Unz

    Mr. Unz, thank you for doing the yoeman’s work on this important topic.

    I was wondering if you had seen the breakdown of Jewish students at the military service academies?

    Surely that data could be obtained through public records requests and must be available somewhere.

    I see from the NCES data that white enrollment has declined over the years at the various service academies. I’m curious if you knew what percentage of that white enrollment was gentile.

    The service academies are definitely elite institutioans drawing from top academic performers, but presumably they would not be subjected to the same overt bias in the admissions process.

    It would be interesting to compare their rates to those of the other elite schools.

  431. Anon[631]• 免责声明 说:
    @crimson2

    Oy vey, cry me a river! How are mentions of unfair college admissions, even related to the grievances of the Pittsburgh goy? Are you sure Unz is not also responsible for ‘concentration camps’?

    • 回复: @anon
  432. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @aba

    This move will just radicalize more people, imo, …

    [更多]

    From the shooter’s gab.com account, he reposted this comment:

    第一任特朗普来参加夏洛茨维尔4号比赛,但我一直支持特朗普,因为他比希拉里·克林顿更好。
    然后特朗普来参加“崛起运动”,但我一直支持特朗普,因为他比希拉里·克林顿更好。
    然后特朗普来到了骄傲男孩会,但我一直支持特朗普,因为他比希拉里·克林顿更好。
    然后,特朗普为我而来,再无人支持……

    https://archive.is/k63LE#selection-4147.0-4165.60

    Gab.com
    Verified account @getongab

    Breaking: @joyent, Gab’s new hosting provider, has just pulled our hosting service. They have given us until 9am on Monday to find a solution. Gab will likely be down for weeks because of this. Working on solutions. We will never give up on defending free speech for all people.
    6:50 PM – 27 Oct 2018

    https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1056362626077220865

  433. Bolteric 说:
    @James Braxton

    Thanks for the post. I made the huge mistake of quoting The Gospel in my application essay. Denial from P & Y (x2). Several students below my academic record got in, as they offered membership in a special catergory of race, religion or athletics. Mom rather rudely pointed out to the HS counselor – who herself married to a Jew – that U Penn was very Jewish. I was raised Episcopalian, which had apparently very high marks as a group. I eventually went to perhaps the best school in America, got in twice in fact, though admittedly father and gradfather were grads. Grandad was a WWII veteran that obtained a rare Masters in Science degree. I was not especially happy being there. The liberal elitism was thick. The college has had 40-50 years of Jewish presidents. I would concur with Unz’s assertion that the doling out and receiving of Anti-Semitism has been limited in my view throughout the course of life (minus a few forgivable micro-aggressions.) I’ve had good Jewish friends and a girlfriend along the way. I married a woman who is ex-Catholic, and “we” are choosing to raise the kids non-religious, though I like to think I maintain a quite, meek Christian faith. I apologize for sharing my personal grievance here, but I find this article sad, but probably true.

  434. @aba

    I don’t know what Indians do in Australia who aren’t students (of which there are a lot and working often part time in supermarkets and service stations). I know/have come across a barrister with a specialty in medical negligence, a qualified accountant driving a taxi and a number of Sikhs working in real estate. And there are plenty of nurses, and, come to think of it, doctors including a cardiologist who supervised an exercise echocardiogram recently.

    There is no sign of their having their own schools, let alone ones divided by caste or religion (though Muslims have schools which I guess don’t have much to do with Indians). I am sure there will be a lot of intermarriage with non Indians by those whose education has been in Australia but Australia has not been attracting large numbers of immigrants from India for long.

    So I am not inclined to worry about Indians undermining existing mainstream Australia.

  435. WhiteyInIT 说:

    I suspect “Wizard of OZ” is an Indian (dot) immigrant to Oz. Perhaps from a different class/caste from his (mostly) dark and tubby ethnic brethren in the states. Still an Indian at heart. His is a very very characteristic Indian (dot) personality type. I don’t know how to describe it but lets say you are trying to woo a very pretty babe who has an ugly friend, whose father has recently gotten fabulously rich (monetarily). She is with her pretty friend all the time.

    She looks at you with longing yet she is full of hate that she can never ever attract you. She is hence petty, jealous, her wealth makes her a pompous bulb (however she doesn’t recognize this). She is bombastic, passive aggressive and crude. You get the picture now don’t ya? After working with many many Indians for the last 13 years in the US IT industry (which these Indians now almost completely control), I can vouch for it. And I bet other white veterans in the industry, who have miraculously managed to survive the Indian onslaught would have something similar to share.

    I think a few links should help
    (Just how should we describe your average Indian personality in the west especially the US??)
    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Yb_cVdsYr_0J:https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/01/25/repost-the-indian-personality-superiority-and-inferiority-complexes-intertwined/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=my&client=firefox-b

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JqOU2BraV90J:https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/06/racist-elitist-arrogant-indian-man-kanwal-rekhi-by-magneto/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=my&client=firefox-b-ab

    Some jewels from the above links:
    Kanwal Rekhi was reacting to Steve Bannon’s statement about there being too many Asian CEO’s in Silicon Valley. Kanwal reacts with the typical Indian elitism which is to call White people as “uneducated”. I have also noticed this same attitude in many Indians. They gloat and feel great pride in taking so many high-paying jobs in America and Europe and they are happy to see White people homeless and unemployed. I was once at my dentist and he told me, “The day will soon come when the majority of Americans are unemployed because Indians are taking all of the jobs”.
    Now, why do Indians feel this way? It is due to their massive inferiority complex towards White people. Indians know that they are too stupid to ever develop their own country, so they have no choice but to go live in Western countries that were built by White people and parasitize White people’s achievements. Why do Indian men especially have this inferiority complex which they try to mask as a superiority complex?

    Because Indian men are the most Beta men on the planet. If you look up the term “Beta Male” in the dictionary, you will find a picture of an Indian man there. Most Indian men are spineless pussies – in essence “momma’s boys” – due to the matriarchal culture of India. So when such Beta male Indian men go to the West, they immediately feel very insecure and inferior to the more masculine and aggressive White men they encounter on a daily basis. Indian men begin to realize that they are too Beta for most White women whom they worship, adore, and fantasize about, so they begin to develop an impotent rage. So whenever you see Indian men making comments like this, you know it is due to the “Little Man Syndrome” Indian men have towards White men.

    Most of them have this white searing hatred for whites and are actually a lot more dangerous for white well being. And I think they are a lot more dangerous than admitting people from the ivory coast or Indonesia who just don’t have this ultra pompous attitude towards us (although at this point, having an immigration moratorium seems the best option). They’d be just happy to be here while the Indian would most likely think it’s an honor for whitey to have him here instead. I’m beginning to become completely pissed off them at this stage of my life. Of what they’ve done to us and their general chutzpah about it. When things start becoming unglued, most of our current (((overlords))) would have fled already. But by then these dotheads would have taken their place as the most richest, the most arrogant, new elites and they’d pay a heavy price for it.

    • 哈哈: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @utu
    , @FKA Max
    , @Anonymous
  436. anon[206]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    Are you sure Unz is not also responsible for ‘concentration camps’?

    Unz is the new Hitler, lol

    • 回复: @Poco
  437. @crimson2

    Do you really think that the kind of antisemites who read Unz Review articles are men of action, let alone mad violent ones like the Pittsburgh murderer? Do you think madmen like him read and are influenced by webzines like UR? Or is your outburst just a way of making your disgust with Ron’s articles vivid and conveying your anger to Ron? One of my non Jewish relations objected immediately to casual support for Holocaust denial appearing in the article putting forward legitimate questions about Ivy League admissions. But isn’t it best to counter what you object to by careful analysis of fact and argument leading sometimes to refutation and even – I’ve know it happen – retraction or qualification?

    • 回复: @crimson2
    , @anon
  438. utu 说:
    @WhiteyInIT

    Why there are no recordings of them talking among themselves? Perhaps we need to start spying on them.

    I think you are wrong about WoO.

  439. crimson2 说:
    @JLK

    Resorting to profanity sets a shrill, desperate tone

    Actually, profanity is simply a way to mark one’s displeasure, frustration and anger without resorting to physical violence. Studies have shown that profanity can increase pain tolerance as well as relieve stress. It is also useful in that it can shock those with weak minds. It is simply a fallacy to think that you can deduce someone’s entire personality–or even their mental state–from their use of obscenities, you cunt.

    • 回复: @anon
  440. crimson2 说:
    @utu

    Jews are overrepresented by ratio 4.16:1
    Whites are underrepresented by ratio 2:1
    Whites are discriminated at ratio 8.33:1 with respect to Jews.

    Loser, racist whites begging for affirmative action is the funniest fucking thing I’ve seen in ages.

  441. crimson2 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Do you really think that the kind of antisemites who read Unz Review articles are men of action, let alone mad violent ones like the Pittsburgh murderer? Do you think madmen like him read and are influenced by webzines like UR?

    While most of the pathetic losers here are far too timid to do anything, I have no doubt taht someone reading or commenting here will commit a hate crime or has committed one already. It’s inevitable given the crowd that Ron attracts.

    Or is your outburst just a way of making your disgust with Ron’s articles vivid and conveying your anger to Ron?

    那个也是。

    But isn’t it best to counter what you object to by careful analysis of fact and argument leading sometimes to refutation and even – I’ve know it happen – retraction or qualification?

    Scholars of the holocaust have been doing that for years. It’s only so effective. Maybe a new tactic is needed. Right now, Ron is under the radar, but it’s my intention to make sure that people know that enemies of Affirmative Action are closet Nazis.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Anon
    , @peterAUS
    , @anon
  442. @crimson2

    I wouldn’t have guessed you are such a passionate supporter of affirmative action. I shall look out for it in your comments. I can see plenty of scope for legitimate honest argument against particular instances and classes of affirmative action with arguments that it hasn’t worked and can’t work thrown in. More legitimately the persistence of some failed or no longer justified programs could be argued against. But that’s really a theoretical view by an outsider.

  443. Anon[312]• 免责声明 说:
    @crimson2

    Hasbara won’t recoup their 10 dollar an hour investment here, because they are not sending their brightest. In America, blame for future or imaginary crimes is not yet acceptable.

    Also, no one here says kill the Jews. All sane people want those Jews with an attachment to America and to all Americans to stay and prosper. We only put minimal pressure on those with love for various Middle-Eastern or European entities to go there. If you are happier with Netanyahu, go live with Netanyahu. If you think Saturday is time for segregation and rituals of open despise against all other Americans, please go away.

    Using the most remote pretext to shut down this debate only makes you unfairness more obvious.

    • 回复: @crimson2
  444. peterAUS 说:
    @crimson2

    ….it’s my intention to make sure that people know that enemies of Affirmative Action are closet Nazis.

    An excellent idea. Please do that.

    A bit disappointing too. All that obvious passion and nothing really new there. People are called Nazis for a lot of things today.
    I was hoping to hear something new.

    I am sure there will be article about the shooting and such, so, not keen on going O.T. here.
    The thing is….the guy was saying, in Internet, he was going to do something.

    你的 problem is that the language today is so fucked up that people can say whatever they want and no way to know what they actually mean.
    FFS, we have that bitch with the President’s head on this very site. We have people stating openly about assassinating the President and nothing happens.
    Rap songs. Countless tweets. Millions comments on Internet mention something as “I am going to….”. The very language is broken. That’s the paradigm we live in.
    It simply looks as…..all that Internet control and monitoring is for nothing.
    THAT is interesting.

    Apologize for O.T. Looking forward to an article going into this.

    出来

  445. anon[254]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    One of my non Jewish relations objected immediately to casual support for Holocaust denial appearing in the article putting forward legitimate questions about Ivy League admissions.

    sounds like they’ve been trained well

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Wizard of Oz
  446. anon[254]• 免责声明 说:
    @crimson2

    Studies have shown that profanity can increase pain tolerance as well as relieve stress. It is also useful in that it can shock those with weak minds.

    nah, its just reveals those with low class and a lack of control

  447. anon[254]• 免责声明 说:
    @crimson2

    but it’s my intention to make sure that people know that enemies of Affirmative Action are closet Nazis.

    supporters of affirmative action are generally inferior or members of the tribe that want to use it as a weapon against whites such as in Ivy League admissions

    • 回复: @crimson2
  448. Anonymous[905]• 免责声明 说:
    @anon

    Exactly. Being conditioned to outright 不认为 about a certain subject is pathetic.

    Luckily – a curious mind will reject it.

  449. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @WhiteyInIT

    One can probably not get anymore Anglo-Australian than commenter 绿野仙踪:

    Maybe you ate [sic] telling this Australian descendant of three convicts (1796, 1798 and 1820 – the last pardoned, the former two married with the man a British colonial soldier by 1799**)

    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2056642

    我同意 乌图, that you most probably are wrong about him.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  450. crimson2 说:
    @Anon

    Also, no one here says kill the Jews.

    是的,他们愿意。

  451. crimson2 说:
    @anon

    supporters of affirmative action are generally inferior or members of the tribe that want to use it as a weapon against whites such as in Ivy League admissions

    Bitch, I already know your conspiracy theories. No need to klansplain this to me.

    • 回复: @anon
  452. anon[254]• 免责声明 说:
    @crimson2

    lol, proves my point in #457

  453. @anon

    Not trained but living and working long in an environment where there is an accepted way of speech about msny subjects – which can make an interesting study.

    I don’t think the same people would blink an eyelid at someone referring to Churchill as “the drunken imperialist Churchill” but/and what I would like to introduce is more intolerance for the snide and gratuitous slur – to which the best response often is that it says more about the writer or speaker than about the subject.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @lysias
  454. anon[267]• 免责声明 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I don’t think the same people would blink an eyelid at someone referring to Churchill as “the drunken imperialist Churchill”

    i bet they wouldn’t

  455. @FKA Max

    Dead right mate, though I think my noble Irish great-great-great-grandfather who joined the (British Army) News South Wales Corps (aka the Rum Corps) two years after being transported as a convict would be upset at the implicit non recognition of his patriotic crime (burning an Anglo-Irish landlord’s haystack I like to think**). I went back to the thread you linked to and was struck by the reminders the research cited on it gave of the scepticism due for peer reviewed scientific – not least medical research – and particularly psychological and social science research since Prof John Ioannidis and critics of IPCC models blew their particular whistles. I noted one study, e.g. had 940 convicts compared with 50 footballers….

    **the father of his wife’s, my g-g-g grandmother’s first child, was hanged after well publicised Old Bailey trial for uttering a forged Bank of England security and that child bred mightily in Oz so no reason to suppose that my thousands of Australian cousins from that source have genes for violence, especially as her mother, the great matriarch was transported as pretty obvious social engineering to get her and her daughter away from the actual forger and provide women for the sex starved colonial soldiery and marines.

    *** ***

    All of which is consistent with the entertainment and diversion (not to say pleasant procrastination) I get out of treating UR as a forum for experiment.

  456. Marty T 说:
    @anon

    Here’s the problem with using the NMS analysis – the PSAT does not actually get you into college. The SAT does. It’s likely that Jews, like the other whites they have assimilated into, don’t care that much about it. They then step it up for the SAT, studying to raise their scores.

    Not to mention the difficulty of estimating Jewish names in an era of secular intermarriage rates well over 50 percent.

    The use of math Olympiads and the like is also ridiculous to show “discrimination” against Asians and overrepresented Jews. Why don’t Jews excel in these competitions? Because they don’t have to and they don’t want to. Jews (many of whom nowadays are really half or quarter Jews) are cruising the mall or playing lacrosse on the weekends. In other words, they are having fun like other teens. I say this as someone who was easily in the top 1 percent of math talent as a kid but had no interest in these competitions. The math olympiad never got anyone laid.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  457. Marty T 说:

    If we were really seeing dumb Jews leapfrogging more deserving asians at Ivies, this would be reflected in the SAT averages. Hasn’t happened.

    Asians are vastly overrepresented in the Ivies. Unz’s argument for “discrimination” seems to be that the Ivies don’t use Caltech’s criteria for admission. One factor is that Harvard fields nationally competitive teams in sports like hockey and lacrosse. Good luck filling those teams with Asian math olympiad winners.

    • 回复: @anon
  458. anon[169]• 免责声明 说:
    @Marty T

    Asians are vastly overrepresented in the Ivies.

    if that’s the case, why are they suing?

    • 回复: @silviosilver
  459. Anonymous[298]• 免责声明 说:
    @Marty T

    I say this as someone who was easily in the top 1 percent of math talent as a kid but had no interest in these competitions. The math olympiad never got anyone laid.

    我认为你没有抓住重点。

    The criteria should be 学业成绩 (opportunity+ability+work). Getting laid is an excuse for insufficient work – at best.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  460. Anonymous[236]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ron Unz

    罗恩

    Here’s an interesting article that includes athletic admissions. I suspect that the Ivies also use it as another tool to limit asians.

    https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2010/12/09/why_caltech_is_in_a_class_by_i/

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Marty T
  461. Anonymous[236]• 免责声明 说:
    @aba

    Therefore this insane push of the “oppressed” classes to demand <x,y, and z) that looks like them based on feelz.

  462. Ron Unz 说:
    @Anonymous

    Here’s an interesting article that includes athletic admissions. I suspect that the Ivies also use it as another tool to limit asians.

    That’s very interesting. I hadn’t seen that 2010 article, and it certainly does tend to confirm the “chatter” I’d heard about the huge rise in Harvard’s athletic-admits during the same period.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  463. @anon

    if that’s the case, why are they suing?

    Marty T is just another Jewish bs-artist is my guess.

    • 回复: @anon
  464. anon[134]• 免责声明 说:
    @silviosilver

    yes, that was my guess too

    “Asians are overrepresented in Ivy Leagues but Jews aren’t” – lol

    • 回复: @Marty T
    , @Marty T
  465. JLK 说:

    It would be interesting to drill down further into the white non-jewish component of Harvard admissions to determine (1) how many are legacy admit children and grandchildren of alumni (probably heavily WASP) and (2) their ethnic background.

    For example, there are about 50 million German-Americans, and the Lutherans (107) score almost as high on IQ tests as the Episcopalians (109) among the mainstream Protestant sects. Not quite as high as Jews, but not too far apart. I’d expect there are at least five times as many German-Americans among National Merit Semifinalists as Jews. They are also probably underrepresented among the Harvard legacy admits, so it wouldn’t be surprising if this group is the most underrepresented of all ethnic groups at Ivy League schools relative to ability.

  466. The Collegiate Exodus of “Jews” from the universities reported in this article is momentous news. And, as noted in the article, the 沉默 of the Jewish institutions on the subject is the most-momentous element of the story. And where did they all go? Into the (US) army? To Israel? To the gas chambers?
    Numbers, numbers. Where have we heard such things before?

    • 回复: @Poco
  467. dcite 说:
    @crimson2

    blame some vast conspiracy for your personal failures. It’s pathetic.

    They are usually blaming pervasive cultural failures on a vast conspiracy, not personal problems. My personal life, for example, is A-ok just now, but I see what’s happening around me and I absolutely know that many people have “conspired” — etymology, communicated so closely and quietly that they seemed to breath together — to create these situations. I mean, why are you even still acting as if conspiracy is some mysterious myth. Everyone knows it now. They are just not allowed to acknowledge it publicly. “They” have done their job well in that area.

  468. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @academic gossip

    For another, it is mathematically impossible for the percentage of Jewish students to have big up and down jumps year to year as seen in your graph. Isn’t that obvious when you talk about the entire university 4-year enrollment? The number of admitted students is roughly the same every year so the Jewish percentage is the average of the percentage in the last 4 entering classes. Think about what it would take to make the 4 year average jump by 5 percent in one year.

    I just replied to a similar comment of yours over in the other comments thread:

    When you have finally understood all this, look for my post explaining why the Harvard Hillel numbers are mathematically impossible (imply absurd swings in the annual intake of Jewish students), and tell us what is wrong with the computation.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/anti-semitic-far-right-terrorist-attacks-synagogue/#comment-2600973

    My comment is still in moderation, but this is the gist of it:

    如果考虑到以下几点,这并不荒谬和不可能……

    高中生贾里德·库什纳(Jared Kushner)是怎么做到“不到恒星”的?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/18/jared-kushner-harvard-donald-trump-son-in-law
    [...]

    哈佛编号是哈佛为接受您的孩子成为本科生而希望捐赠的金额。 这不是他们在网站上发布的那种信息。 你必须以正确的方式问正确的人。

    他说他刚刚发现当前的哈佛数字——假设你孩子的申请是“有竞争力的”(即,即使你不开支票,你的孩子也有可能被录取)——是 5 万美元。

    如果您的孩子“没有竞争力”,那就是 10 万美元。

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-did-jared-kushner-get-into-harvard/

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/anti-semitic-far-right-terrorist-attacks-synagogue/#comment-2601803

    在我看来,对此有两种解释,它们并不相互排斥。

    首先,普林斯顿还没有像哈佛或 that it is much wealthier than Harvard on a per-student basis (Princeton’s endowment is \$26 billion for 8,181 students compared to Harvard’s \$37 billion endowment for 22,000 students), and secondly that Jews are the wealthiest religious/ethnic group in the U.S., so they can more easily afford Harvard and other Ivy League universities’ bribes:


    How income varies among U.S. religious groups

    来源: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/ and http://archive.is/hlf0e

    • 回复: @FKA Max
  469. Marty T 说:
    @anon

    I never said Jews are not overrepresented. I said Asians are overrepresented. This actually has nothing to do with Jews, because Jews are not suing to make their overrepresentation even more absurd, as Asians are.

  470. Marty T 说:
    @Anonymous

    Or much more likely, Harvard uses athletic admits to, you know, fill athletic teams.

    I’ve still seen no evidence that all else being equal, Asians face a substantial penalty compared to whites. Sure, Chad the 1250 SAT lacrosse player got in over Chang the NMS finalist. But that is not evidence of “discrimination”. It’s evidence that Harvard wants to field winning teams, which is its right.

  471. Marty T 说:
    @anon

    Do you have an actual argument to counter anything I wrote? Can you even comprehend what I wrote?

    • 回复: @anon
  472. anon[259]• 免责声明 说:
    @Marty T

    yeah, you made a bunch of excuses for jews and claimed Asians were unathletic

    很有说服力

  473. Anonymous [AKA "RIPINDIA"] 说:
    @WhiteyInIT

    对!

    • 哈哈: Wizard of Oz
  474. Anonymous[214]• 免责声明 说:
    @utu

    罗恩

    If I understand this comment correctly, please don’t allow these kind of comments.

  475. 罗恩-

    If substantial pro-Jewish “affirmative action” is at work, wouldn’t it follow that (as with Black and Hispanic recipients of AA), the Jews who are admitted would have substantially lower SAT scores than gentile whites

    And because SAT scores are valid predictors of academic success, wouldn’t it also logically follow that the relatively lower-SAT Jews would tend to finish Harvard with lower GPAs?

    Do you agree with this hypothesis? And is there any available data to test it, if not by actual GPA then perhaps circumstantially by looking at who graduated 优等生 and 优等生?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  476. Ron Unz 说:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Do you agree with this hypothesis? And is there any available data to test it, if not by actual GPA then perhaps circumstantially by looking at who graduated cum laude and magna cum laude?

    Sure, I found strong evidence for exactly the results you suspect:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#footnote_79

    If you’re strongly interested in this topic, you should probably read my full Meritocracy analysis, since it’s far more detailed and comprehensive than the excerpts I provided in this article.

    • 回复: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Wizard of Oz
  477. @Ron Unz

    谢谢罗恩!

    I actually had read your original article with great interest but there is such a wealth of supporting data that I overlooked your reference to this point in the original.

    I’d personally recommend that other readers take a closer look at this point as well. To summarize for other readers, the original article notes that “In fact, Harvard’s apparent preference for academically weak Jewish applicants seems to be reflected in their performance once they arrive on campus. [79].” https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#footnote_79

    The footnote explains that “Privacy considerations prevent the public release of information on honors degrees awarded to graduates, but the top 10% of each Harvard class is inducted into Phi Beta Kappa, the national honors society, and the university’s PBK rosters of the last fifty years are available on the Internet.” Based on an analysis of these rosters, “It appears that Harvard’s non-Jewish whites are now perhaps five times as likely as their Jewish classmates to achieve such high academic performance, with Asian students doing nearly as well.” [Emphasis mine.]

    The footnote further cites to Appendix G, which includes the published rosters of PBK honorees and some caveats about the application of name analysis as an ethnic identification methodology. These caveats include the fact that geographic origin is a factor in selection and that the presence of foreign students may introduce some noise to the name analysis. However, the analysis clearly shows a huge drop between 1960 and the 2010’s in the ratio of Jewish students/Jewish PBK membership. By my calculation, using Ron’s numbers, the approximate ratio of Jewish Students to PBK members (“JS/PBK”), went from an over performance of 124% in the 1960s (31%/25%) to a drastic under performance of only 25% in the 2010s (13%/25%).

    This analysis is absolutely devastating as statistical proof of admission bias.

    I don’t want to kvetch about Ron’s brilliant work here. But as a matter of persuasive presentation, this particular evidence of Jewish academic under-performance (i.e., the low and declining JS/PBK ratio) shouldn’t be relegated to a footnote and should be moved way up and prominently highlighted. I hope this occurs if there are any further versions, updates or new articles on the issue. Here’s why:

    1. The analysis pertains to the actual enrollees at Harvard, so it controls for any objection that over-representation in enrollment might be due in part to over-representation in the applicant pool.

    2. So long as the same method is used for all students and PBK membership, it neutralizes any objections to the methodology used for identifying students as Jewish. That is, since any under or over-counting would apply to both the numerator and denominator the ratio analysis should remain unchanged regardless of the identification methodology.

    3. The analysis also neutralizes any argument that the over-representation in admissions could be based upon some “holistic” criteria that are able to “look beyond” mere SATs and GPAs in predicting future academic performance.

    Anyway, these are my (hopefully) constructive opinions for what they are worth.

    I deal with similar issues of disparate treatment and disparate impact in the employment field and I believe Ron has made an extraordinarily persuasive case based on the publicly available information. However, as is often the case with Taboo subjects, the powers-that-be will impose an impossible burden of proof before even allowing the issue to be discussed.

    Harvard’s control over the actual data for ethnic composition of students, applicant qualifications, and student performance will therefore always provide it with enough “plausible deniability” to shut down or deflect any serious debate.

    The only way to really put these facts into the public discourse and/or effect some kind of change is to bring a lawsuit in the footsteps of the current Students for Fair Admissions case on behalf of Asians. I hope someone has this project in the works.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  478. JLK 说:

    The Unz analysis on Jewish overrepresentation relative to aptitude at Harvard seems to be as compelling as one can get without a thorough scientific study.

    If you don’t want it marginalized and “discredited” by association, I’d suggest that it be placed on an independent platform, away from the other controversial topics and often spotty commentary found on this site.

    My only suggestion with respect to the analysis itself is to do a rough fact check on the Weyl analysis using IQ statistics. I’ve read that the NMS IQ threshhold is about 140, with some adjustment for geographic diversity. Someone like Steve Sailer might have a better number. We have estimations for both Ashkenazi and non-Jewish white IQ. I’m not trained in statistics, but knowing the SD of 15, we should be able to calculate the percentage for each group expected to reach or exceed 140. We should then be able to divide one into the other to get a rough idea of the expected proportion.

    This assumes that the SD for both groups is 15, and the Jewish curve isn’t flatter, but I’ve never seen any suggestion that it is any different brought up in any of the scientific literature.

  479. FKA Max 说: • 您的网站
    @FKA Max

    来自 纽约时报 今天是:

    'ALDC's

    Harvard gives advantages to recruited athletes (A’s); legacies (L’s), or the children of Harvard graduates; applicants on the dean’s or director’s interest list (D’s), which often include the children of very wealthy donors and prominent people, 大多是白色的 [read mostly Jewish]; and the children (C’s) of faculty and staff. ALDCs make up only about 5 percent of applicants but 30 percent of admitted students.

    While being an A.L.D.C. helps — their acceptance rate is about 45 percent, compared with 4.5 to 5 percent for the rest of the pool — it is no guarantee. (One of those rejected despite being a legacy was the judge in the federal case, Allison D. Burroughs. She went to Middlebury College instead.)

    哈佛的证人表示,保留传统优势很重要,因为它鼓励校友为大学贡献时间、专业知识和金钱。

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/07/us/getting-into-harvard.html

  480. Arioch 说:

    > their ratio turns out to be 435 percent

    嘿!
    Put that darn comma back into the figure! 😀
    I do not believe in 400%+ rate even for Jews!

    • 回复: @JLK
  481. Anonymous [AKA "Joe, but a different one from the other Joe"] 说:

    Why? If we assign quotas, we should assign them to everyone according to the same logic. Why would some ethnics be treated differently? I will never understand the logic in such distorted quota systems, how can such be considered fair by anyone.

  482. JLK 说:
    @Arioch

    I’ve played with the numbers a bit, and found that the percentiles change pretty dramatically when you get 2+ standard deviations out to the right and the mean is moved just a few percentage points. Use this calculator to try it yourself.

    http://davidmlane.com/hyperstat/z_table.html

    I’ve also found that Jews account for about 40% of the highest rated chess players of all time. Of course the numbers would be skewed somewhat because the game is more popular in Russia than in Western Europe and other parts of the world. If it was as popular in East Asia, you can imagine how the numbers would change. But it is a clue.

    I haven’t kept up with the trends, but I know that the SAT averages at Harvard were significantly higher than those of the lower Ivies back in the 80s. So even if the total number of slots in the Ivy League is comparable to the NMS pool, you might expect to see different proportions of Ashkenazis within the Ivy hierarchy.

  483. anon[707]• 免责声明 说:

    Is denial of opportunity (gatekeeping and puppy training) a post admission, Ivy League practice ?https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/listen-michigan-professor-punis