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作为旧的每一个粉丝 佩里·梅森 节目记得,法庭证人发誓“说出真相,全部真相,只说真相”。

选择单词是有原因的。 在原本完全真实的表述中有选择性地遗漏的模式很容易误导我们,甚至是任何直截了当的谎言。 在某些情况下,强大的外部力量可能会遗漏这种遗漏,因此,即使是最善意的作家也面临着艰难的选择,要么将某些内容排除在分析范围之外,要么将他的重要著作拒之门外。 我有时自己也遇到过这样的困境,但最近几年, 美国Pravda系列 正如我试图提供的那样,已经在我们收到的有关现代世界历史的记录中绘制出了这些巨大的空白。 过去一百年的历史反叙事.

仔细地重新审视五十或六十年前的事件可能很有趣,但是今天的事件具有更大的重要性,对于自19年初以来席卷全球的Covid-2020流行病尤其如此。死亡,包括成千上万的美国人, 最新发布的研究报告 华盛顿大学权威的健康指标与评估研究所(IHME)的研究表明,我们的家庭死亡人数已经超过900,000万。 这场全球性爆发始于武汉,其起源已成为中美之间新冷战的主要爆发点,随着特朗普新保守派已被拜登·新保守派取代,冲突的轨迹仅略有改变。掌控我们的外交政策。

两个月前,我发表了一篇冗长的文章,总结了爆发第一年的许多信息,并集中讨论了有关病毒起源的激烈辩论。 除了新闻发布会上的调查记者团队的报道之外, “纽约时报”中, “华尔街日报”,并 美联社,由独立记者和研究人员撰写的很长的几篇文章构成了我的主要信息来源,其中包括:

这项重要的研究纲要现已得到重大补充,由杰出的前科学记者和编辑尼古拉斯·韦德(Nicholas Wade)对Covid-11,000的可能来源进行了19个词的分析,他在《科学》杂志上度过了XNUMX多年 纽约时报,科学,自然,并且是几本与人类学和进化生物学有关的优秀著作的作者。

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    人或自然界是否在武汉打开了潘多拉魔盒?
    尼古拉斯·韦德• 中等 •2年2021月11,000日•XNUMX个单词

抑制可能的人为起源为“阴谋论”

贝克和韦德的主要关注点是密切相关的标题,即病毒的起源以及它是否是实验室的产品,大概是武汉病毒研究所,后来在一次不幸的事故中被释放。 这些作者都强烈倾向于后者的可能性,但是采取了一些不同的方法。 贝克是一位杰出的小说家和自由派公共知识分子,他必须依靠一般性论点或仅报道他所采访的专家的观点,而韦德则利用其强大的科学背景为同样的结论建立有说服力的案例。

从流行的几乎开始,主流媒体就一直认为Covid-19很可能是自然起源的,尽管特朗普总统和他的一些政治盟友很快大声宣称不是,但公认的科学共识保持不变。

但正如韦德(Wade)所证明的那样,这种假定的共识在很大程度上是虚幻的,它是由著名的科学出版物中出现的两个早期项目所形成的。 19年2020月XNUMX日, 柳叶刀“ 已经出版 一份声明 由27位病毒学家和其他著名科学家签署,他们宣称:“我们站在一起,强烈谴责阴谋论,这些阴谋论认为COVID-19不是自然起源,” [科学家]绝大多数得出结论,认为这种冠状病毒起源于野生动植物。 然后下个月 自然医学 出版 分析 由五位病毒学家提出的针对任何人工来源的理论论证,他们指出:“我们的分析清楚地表明,SARS-CoV-2不是实验室构建的病毒,也不是故意操纵的病毒。”

这些发表的作品远没有应有的影响力。 韦德指出,前者的陈述实际上是由幕后组织的,他是与武汉实验室有密切联系的美国人彼得·达扎克,因此几乎不是一个无私的政党,而后者则严重依赖于非常可疑的科学推理。 但是一旦这些有力的结论出现在有影响力的期刊上,很少有微生物学家愿意挑战这个新近成立的正统观念,特别是因为这样做会使他们与特朗普在同一政治阵营中生活,特朗普在他们的社区中是一个非常受辱的人物。 贝克此前也曾提出过类似的批评,而我在XNUMX月份的文章中也完全认可了他的裁决,但是韦德的分析提供了更深的深度。

此外,韦德还强调了一种恐惧气氛,即当今支配着我们大部分学术领域的气氛,如果研究人员在某些问题上偏离正统观念,也许包括对Covid-19的起源提出异议,那么未来的资助申请乃至职业就处于危险之中。 他认为,尽管 柳叶刀“自然医学 信件实际上是政治声明而不是科学发现,它们在镇压异议方面“非常有效”,并导致绝大多数记者接受它们,反映出实际上并不存在的研究共识。

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韦德自己的亲身经历无疑为这种对潜在政治动态的精妙分析提供了信息。 他最近的书 一个麻烦的遗产 于2014年出现,其副标题“基因,种族和人类历史”反映了他主题的潜在爆炸性。 虽然我考虑过 对有争议的话题的出色处理,韦德的工作很快吸引了一群批评家的私刑,他们组织了一次公开的公开声明,说服说服139位杰出的遗传学家签名。 所有这些人很快就被羞辱了 一旦被证明 他们中没有一个人真正打扰过检查书的真实内容,以至于他们如此猛烈地抨击。

 

在Covid-19案中,Wade证明,消除政治障碍并允许我们客观地考虑证据后,我们的结论就会发生变化。 关于病毒自然起源的科学论点变得微不足道,从而自动提高了竞争性实验室泄漏假说,该假说先前被谴责和污名化为所谓的“阴谋论”。

例如,尽管进行了十五个月的艰苦努力,但中国人仍未能找到任何证据表明任何野生生物种群中都携带有密切相关的前体病毒,而在以前的SARS和MERS等新兴病毒流行病例中很容易找到这种证据。 确实,与Covid-19亲缘关系最近的自然只存在于蝙蝠中,而这些蝙蝠都位于距武汉爆发近1,000英里的云南山洞中。

我们还希望,对人类构成威胁的动物病毒将需要一系列漫长的中间突变步骤,因为它逐渐发展出有效感染我们自己物种的能力,就像SARS和其他先前疾病一样。 但是,Covid-19似乎突然以一种具有最大传染性的形式出现,完美地适应了人类,并且显然来自单一原始来源。

最后,病毒的一个重要结构元素“弗林蛋白酶切割位点”在其病毒家族的所有其他成员中是完全不存在的,并对其危险的传染性做出了至关重要的贡献。 这种结构的自然起源似乎是难以置信的,而科学文献中充斥着实验室实验(包括武汉研究人员进行的实验)的补充。 此外,在其他冠状病毒中,在该Covid-19元件中发现的特定基因序列极为罕见,强烈表明该基因是从不同来源添加的。

被排除的第三种可能性

现在已经两次阅读韦德的长篇文章,我可以说,我发现他几乎所有的科学论点都很引人注目,并且我几乎没有明显分歧的地方。 但是我的总体结论与他完全不同。

当他准确地说出:

众所周知,关于其起源有两种主要理论。 一是它从野生动植物自然地跃迁到人们。 另一个是该病毒正在实验室中进行研究,并从中逃脱。

一段之后,该文本包含他的第一个主要部分的标题为“两种理论的故事”。

尽管Wade在陈述有关Covid-19起源的“有两个主要理论”方面是绝对正确的,但是这种双重性是由政治压力所强制实施的,这与先前排除了对“实验室泄漏假说”进行讨论的压力非常相似,但是制裁更加严厉和极端。

韦德(Wade)的分析巧妙地表明,一旦我们实际上愿意探索一个偶然的实验室泄漏而广为流传的“阴谋论”,我们就会发现它远比自然起源的情况更为合理,部分原因是后者似乎不太可能。 而且,如果只有这两种可能的理论,那么所有反对一种论点的论点必然会支持另一种论点。 但是,一旦我们意识到存在第三种逻辑可能性,就颠覆了这个框架,这是比“实验室泄漏假说”更为恶劣和被排除在外的,但更有力的证据并得到了更强有力的证据的支持。

在我12,000月对贝克的长篇文章的讨论中,我总结了他是如何首次参与该主题的,并描述了我在他的XNUMX词作品中注意到的关键遗漏:

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贝克可能不是专业的病毒学家或生物战专家,但是当Covid-19爆发时,他才刚刚完成 无根据,是关于美国国家安全机密的冗长的非虚构描述,在2020年1950月时受到了热烈的评论。他的主要内容之一是描述了XNUMX年代美国大规模的生物武器研究计划,该计划的资源和重要性与我们的核能相匹配。武器的努力。 基于他多年的研究,作者不是有关生物战问题的完整新手,并且也充分意识到我们自己的实验室事故历史悠久,已经夺去了许多生命。 因此,他自然地警惕武汉发生类似事故的可能性,其中包括中国同类中最安全的设施。

贝克全面分析的最大弱点不是他仔细研究的有争议的理论,而是他似乎完全忽略的更具争议性的可能性。 一方面,他指出了病原体的显着特征,其特征集合使其能够如此有效地针对人类,并且首先出现在一个城市中,该城市是世界上为数不多的从事这种病毒研究的实验室之一,他的段落中写着“几率是多少?” 但是他的讨论中完全排除了其他甚至更令人难以置信的巧合,对于勒穆恩来说也是如此。

这两位作者似乎都假设只有两种可能的情况:一种自然病毒在2019年末突然出现在武汉市,或者在同一城市偶然发生了增强病原体的实验室泄漏。 但是,还有一个明显的第三种情况,贝克对美国自己非常积极的生物战计划的关注清楚地表明了这一点,他在他的长篇文章和备受推崇的书中都进行了广泛的讨论。 我们必须确定考虑Covid-19爆发不是偶然的,而是对中国的蓄意攻击,因为它接近国际对美紧张局势的绝对高度,因此暗示了我们自己的因素国家安全机构是最明显的犯罪嫌疑人。 考虑到出版业的现实情况,对这种情况的任何认真探索都可能会阻止重要的Baker或Lemoine文章出现在任何受人尊敬的出版物中,也许有助于解释这种沉默。 但是正如我长期以来所争论的那样 美国Pravda系列,由于种种原因而被列入黑名单的许多历史记录很可能是真实的。

韦德(Wade)的11,000字文章中确实有同样明显的遗漏。 总之,Lemoine,Baker和Wade收集了大量关于全球Covid-19流行病起源的高质量文章,但在这54,000个单词中,甚至没有暗示该病毒可能起源在美国有据可查且资金充裕的生物战计划中。 几年来,我们的报纸宣称我们现在陷入了一场针对中国的新冷战,但有可能会变得很热。 但是,在我们领先的国际对手中突然发生,可能具有破坏性的病毒性流行病爆发的明显潜在影响仍然微不足道,过于爆炸,甚至被解雇或嘲笑,更不用说仔细考虑了。

正如我在XNUMX月的长篇文章结尾指出的那样:

我很容易理解为什么所有这些简单的事实及其对全球流行病可能起源的明显影响可能被认为极为不舒服,也许太不舒服而无法在我们的媒体上讨论,因此被广泛忽略。 这些关键点中的大多数已经在我最初于2020年XNUMX月发表的有关该主题的文章中介绍过,该文章很快开始引起社交媒体的巨大流量和兴趣。 然而,在运行几天后,我们的整个网站突然被Facebook禁止,而我们的所有网页都被Google降级了,这也许突显了该材料的非常危险的性质,以及为什么很少有人愿意提出相同观点的原因。

美国生物战袭击的有力证据

在Lemoine,Baker和Wade提供的综合分析中,我发现几乎没有什么可争议的,但是我确实认为我自己的工作是对他们研究的重要补充,因为我主要关注的是第三种可能性,即他们是必然被迫避免考虑。 读者可以自己判断,但是我相信我的文章已经证明,支持排除假设的证据比支持其他两种可能性的证据要强大得多,无论是自然病毒的主流叙述还是广受批评的“阴谋论”武汉的实验室泄漏”。

为方便起见,我摘录了我最初的2020年2021月和我最近的XNUMX年XNUMX月文章的大部分内容:

尽管冠状病毒只有中等程度的致死性,显然其致死率是1%或更低,但它具有极强的传染性,包括在较长的有症状前期以及无症状携带者中。 因此,美国和欧洲的部分地区目前正遭受重大人员伤亡,而为控制这种蔓延而采取的政策摧毁了其国民经济。 该病毒杀死的人数不多于一小部分人,但我们感到震惊的是,一次大爆发如何轻易地破坏了我们的整个经济生活。

一月份,报道中国迅速增长的健康危机的记者定期强调,神秘的新病毒暴发发生在最糟糕的时间和地点,正好在农历新年假期之前出现在武汉的主要交通枢纽。的中国人通常会到远方的家中欢庆,从而有可能将该疾病传播到全国各地,并造成永久性,无法控制的流行病。 中国政府通过史无前例的决定来关闭其整个国民经济,并将700亿中国人关押在自己的家中长达数周之久,从而避免了这种严峻的命运。 但是结果似乎是非常接近的事情,如果武汉再开放几天,中国可能很容易遭受长期的经济和社会破坏。

实验室意外释放的时间显然将是完全随机的。 然而,爆发似乎是在最有可能损害中国的确切时期内开始的,这是最糟糕的十天甚至三十天的窗口期。 作为 我注意到 一月份,我没有确凿的证据证明冠状病毒是一种生物武器,但如果确实如此,那么释放的时间似乎不太可能是偶然的。

还要考虑一下最近席卷中国的其他不幸的病毒流行浪潮:

在过去的两年中,中国经济已经遭受其他神秘新疾病的严重打击,尽管这些新疾病针对的是牲畜而不是人类。 2018年,一种新的禽流感病毒席卷了中国,消除了中国禽业的很大一部分.2019年,猪流感病毒疫情摧毁了中国的养猪场,摧毁了该国40%的国内主要肉源,并广泛宣称后者的疾病正在由神秘的小型无人机传播。 我的早报几乎没有忽略这些重要的商业故事, 注意 在我们的贸易冲突最激烈的时期,中国国内大部分粮食生产的突然崩溃可能证明对美国农产品出口来说是巨大的福音,但是我从来没有考虑过明显的影响。 因此,连续第三年,中国受到了奇怪的新型病毒性疾病的严重影响,尽管只有最近才对人类致命。 该证据仅是间接的,但这种模式似乎非常可疑。

另一个更为显着的巧合得到了更大的传播,成为反美“阴谋论”的主要内容,甚至导致了涉及中国外交部的外交事件。

根据目前被广泛接受的年表,Covid-19流行病于2019年300月下旬或XNUMX月初在武汉开始。但是同一时期,武汉也举行了世界军事运动会,截至XNUMX月下旬,有XNUMX名美国军人参加参加。 正如我反复强调的那样 我的文章和评论超过一年了,如果300名中国军官对芝加哥进行了长期访问,然后不久该城市突然爆发了一场神秘而致命的流行病,美国人会怎么做?

对于我们的情报部门来说,将他们的几个特工滑入那庞大的美国军事队伍中肯定是很容易的,理想的情况是,成千上万的外国军事人员在大城市中旅行并进行观光游览是存在的。适用于为悄悄释放高传染性病毒生物武器提供掩护。 这些都不构成证据,但是巧合的时机非常出色。

生物战是一门技术含量很高的学科,拥有这些专业知识的人不太可能在我们主要报纸的页面上坦率地报道他们的机密研究活动,甚至在利伯教授被囚禁在监狱中之后更是如此。 我自己的知识是零。 但是在XNUMX月中旬,我遇到了一个关于冠状病毒爆发的非常长而详尽的评论,该评论由一个自称“ OldMicrobiologist”的人张贴在一个小网站上,他声称自己已经退休了XNUMX年,是美国生物防御的资深人士。 他的材料风格和细节使我感到十分可信,经过进一步调查,我得出结论,他的背景很可能完全符合他的描述。 我已安排以以下形式重新发布他的评论: 3,400字的文章,很快就吸引了大量的访问量,并有80,000字的进一步评论。

尽管作者强调缺乏任何确凿的证据,但他说,他的经历使他强烈怀疑冠状病毒的爆发确实是美国对中国的生物战袭击,可能是由在军事运动的掩护下带入该国的特工进行的。 XNUMX月下旬在武汉,我们的情报机构有时在其他地方进行过破坏活动。 他提出的一个重要观点是,高致死率在生物武器中通常适得其反,因为使一个人衰弱或住院使人丧生可能比仅仅造成同等死亡人数的生物制剂给国家带来更大的经济损失。 用他的话说:“高传染性,低致死性疾病非常适合破坏经济”,这表明冠状病毒的表观特征在这方面已接近最佳。 那些感兴趣的人应该阅读他的分析,并自己评估他的信誉和说服力。

相同的猜测最终传到了中国的社交媒体上,并导致中国政府出版物上的文章,这立即激起了特朗普政府官员的非常敌对的回应。

后面的事件顺序在此仔细地叙述 17,000字庞大的报告,共54页 由DFRLab于几周前发布,DFRLab是建立主义的大西洋理事会内的一个面向社交媒体的研究部门,其工作是基于十几名员工经过XNUMX个月的研究和准备,以及 美联社 调查小组。 该研究似乎旨在跟踪有关Covid-19爆发的各种所谓的虚假或未经证实的“阴谋论”的出现和互联网传播,以及 美联社记者很快公布了结果谴责这种所谓的虚假和潜在危险的信念的“超级传播者”。

但是,尽管该项目确实提供了一个非常有用的关于疾病的各种非正统叙事的年表和资料来源,但其中许多肯定是错误的或不可信的,但很少有人提供有效的反驳论点,尤其是关于美国人极度可疑的时机。在武汉的军事存在。 博客作者史蒂夫·塞勒(Steve Sailer)和其他人经常嘲笑这种“点滴式”反驳学派,在这种流派中,非主流理论只需要描述就可以得出结论性的反对。

尽管大西洋理事会/美联社的团队当然包括许多技术娴熟的社交媒体研究人员,记者和编辑,但没有迹象表明这些人中有任何人拥有认真的国家安全证书,更不用说在生物战这个神秘话题上的专业知识了。 这可能有助于解释为什么利用如此庞大资源的这份沉重报告几乎完全是描述性的,而却很少花精力分析或评估各种相互矛盾的“阴谋论据”的合理性,因而对其进行了详尽的论述。

非常全面的DFRLab /大西洋理事会报告的另一个奇怪之处是它自己的相当奇怪的遗漏。 鉴于其全部焦点都集中在各种荒谬的“阴谋论”上,作者自然而然地探索了有关美国生物战袭击的猜测,并将这一理论部分归因于凯文·巴雷特(Kevin Barrett),该报告称其为“美国大屠杀否认者,声称11月XNUMX日的袭击是乔治·W·布什政府的一项“内部工作”。”

由此产生的新闻故事 通过其 美联社 合作伙伴将巴雷特(Barrett)列为Covid-19阴谋废话的美国领先的“超级传播者”之一。 然而,巴雷特唯一的真正作用是引用并认可我在该领域非常重要的著作,尽管 他没有成功地敦促 AP 记者直接与我联系,新闻或冗长的基础研究报告中都没有我的名字。 由于我自己的著作构成了《美国生物战假说》的最长,最全面的介绍,因此这种疏忽似乎很奇怪。 我怀疑编辑认为,对我的任何攻击都会使我的文章引起更多关注,因此将其排除在外显然会适得其反。

我发现DFRLab员工不太可能不知道我的存在。 他们的综合报告发表于2021年2020月,由于是基于21个月的调查,该项目将于2020年XNUMX月开始。但是在XNUMX年XNUMX月XNUMX日,我发表了 我的长篇原创文章 这使得美国生物战袭击成为可能,而在社交媒体巨头迅速禁止我们整个网站之后,它在Facebook上迅速增长的人气就此终结,这是基于 同一DFRLab团队产生的非常可疑的报告,与 Facebook长期合作。 确实,这种时间上的显着巧合引起了我的文章的出现及其广泛受欢迎的可能性,这实际上促使DFRLab对Covid-19“阴谋论”的一般主题进行了为期XNUMX个月的调查。 此外:

大西洋理事会研究人员收集的大量材料为一个重要观点提供了进一步的支持。 我去年四月做了 关于Covid-19早期报道的好奇性质:

这种情况的一个有趣的方面是,几乎从关于中国奇怪的新流行病的报道传到国际媒体的第一刻起,就在众多网站和社交媒体平台上发起了一场大规模的精心策划的运动,以查明原因是中国的生物武器不小心在自己的国家释放。 同时,更真实的假设是中国是受害者而不是肇事者,实际上在任何地方都没有得到有组织的支持,只是在我逐渐找到并重新出版相关材料(通常来自非常晦涩的地方并且通常是匿名作者)后才开始成形。 因此,似乎只有敌对中国的一方正在发动积极的信息战。 这种疾病的爆发和几乎同时发动的这种大规模的宣传运动不一定能证明发生了实际的生物战袭击,但我确实认为它倾向于支持这种理论。

一月份,美国媒体,包括由国务卿和前中央情报局局长迈克·庞培领导的媒体,开始将注意力集中在武汉实验室作为病毒爆发的潜在源头,而记者则对此叙事进行了辩论,并试图提出其他可能性。即使在其他网站上发表文章,也遇到了严重的困难:

对冠状病毒的科学研究已经指出了它起源于蝙蝠病毒,导致广泛的媒体猜测,在武汉公开市场上以食物为食的蝙蝠是原始的病媒。 与此同时,精心策划的反华指控浪潮强调了中国实验室对同一病毒源的研究。 但是我们很快就发表了 一篇冗长的文章 由调查记者惠特尼·韦伯(Whitney Webb)提供的大量证据,证明了美国自身巨大的生物战研究工作,多年来,研究工作同样专注于蝙蝠病毒。 韦伯然后与 MintPress新闻,但该出版物奇怪地拒绝发表她的重要著作,也许是对它在如此重大的问题上针对美国政府的严重怀疑感到不快。 因此,如果没有我们平台的帮助,她对公众辩论的主要贡献可能会吸引相对较少的读者。

 

到目前为止,所提供的所有证据都只是偶然的,有力地证明了美国国家安全机构的成员具有在武汉进行生物战袭击的手段,动机和机会。 但是,在2020年XNUMX月,某些额外的事实似乎出现了,其中有些被称为“吸烟枪”,证明了这一令人不安的情况:

但是由于后来我们自己的政府无所作为的可怕后果是显而易见的,我们情报机构中的人员试图证明他们不是在转瞬即逝的人。 本月初, an 美国广播公司新闻 故事 引用四个不同的政府消息来源透露,早在 XNUMX 月下旬,我们国防情报局下属的一个特殊医学情报部门就发布了一份报告,警告称中国武汉地区正在发生一场失控的疾病流行,并广泛传播。将该文件分发给我们政府的高层,警告应采取措施保护驻扎在亚洲的美军。 故事播出后,五角大楼发言人正式否认了 XNUMX 月报告的存在,而其他各级政府和情报官员拒绝发表评论。 但几天后, 以色列电视台提到 在XNUMX月,美国情报机构确实与北约和以色列盟友分享了有关武汉疾病暴发的报告,因此似乎独立地确认了原始报告的完整准确性。 美国广播公司新闻 故事及其政府的一些消息来源。

因此,国防情报局的人员似乎比中国政府本身的官员早一个多月就意识到武汉发生了致命的病毒性暴发。 除非我们的情报机构率先采用预知技术,否则我认为发生这种情况的原因可能与纵火犯最早了解未来火灾的原因相同。

根据这些多方来源的主流媒体报道,到“11 月的第二周”,我们的国防情报局已经在准备一份秘密报告,警告武汉正在发生“灾难性”疾病爆发。 然而在那个时候,在这个拥有 XNUMX 万人口的城市中,感染的人可能不超过几十人,其中很少有人出现任何严重的症状。 影响是比较明显的。 此外:

随着冠状病毒逐渐开始蔓延到中国境外,另一件事情发生了,这大大增加了我的怀疑。 这些早期病例中的大多数都发生在与中国接壤的东亚国家中,正如人们所预料的那样。 但到二月底 伊朗已成为全球疫情的第二个震中. 更令人惊讶的是, 它的政治精英 受到的打击尤其严重,与 整个伊朗议会的整整10%即将感染 和至少 十几个官员和政治家 死于疾病,包括一些 相当高级. 事实上,推特上的新保守派活动人士开始兴高采烈地指出,他们憎恨的伊朗敌人现在像苍蝇一样坠落。

让我们考虑这些事实的含义。 在全世界范围内,唯一遭受重大人员伤亡的政治精英是伊朗的政治精英,他们很早就去世了,甚至在中国以外的世界上几乎任何地方都没有爆发大爆发之前就已经死亡。 因此,我们在2月XNUMX日让美国暗杀了伊朗的最高军事指挥官,然后在几周后,伊朗统治精英分子的大部分被一种神秘而致命的新病毒感染,其中许多人很快因此丧命。 任何理性的人都可能将这仅仅是巧合吗?

总结一次生物战袭击的证据并概述假设情景

上面引用的大部分材料最初都出现在我的2020年2021月文章中,之后在我的后续文章中进行了扩展和进一步讨论,最近一次是在500,000年XNUMX月出现。加在一起,它们被阅读了至少十万次,并引起了超过XNUMX字的评论。 但是,我提出的不可否认的事实几乎完全被排除在正在进行的公开辩论之外,这大概是出于我所建议的实际政治原因,因此很难确切知道是谁意识到了这些事实。

唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)离开白宫似乎终于鼓励了我们这个主流的主流媒体机构承认,他们长期以来一直对Covid-19的完全自然起源的推定可能是不正确的,并且 他们已经开始考虑 在偶然的实验室泄漏中释放出的人造病毒的长期争论理论。 但是在这些变化的情况下,如果他们继续无视美国生物战袭击的第三种可能性,那我认为这是完全不合理的。 我提供的关键证据比竞争实验室泄漏情景更支持这一假设,可以很容易地总结一下:

(1)三年来,中国一直陷于与美国在贸易和地缘政治上日益加剧的冲突,而且连续三年,中国一直受到神秘病毒的重创。 禽流感病毒在2018年严重破坏了其家禽业,第二年,猪流感病毒摧毁了40%以上的猪群(中国的主要肉源)。 第三年,Covid-19出现了。 如果最后一个只是随机实验室泄漏,肯定是可疑的模式。

(2)Covid-19爆发绝对是在中国最严重的时间和地点发生的。中国是武汉的主要交通枢纽,正好接近时机,以达到当地较高的感染水平,正值农历新年假期的旅行者将疾病传播到该国所有其他地区,因此产生了不可阻挡的流行病。 实验室意外泄漏的时机显然是随机的。

(3)作为世界军事运动的一部分,300名美国军人刚刚访问了武汉,为释放病毒性生物武器提供了绝佳的机会。 考虑一下美国人会怎么想,如果300名中国军官访问了芝加哥,此后立即在该城市突然爆发了一种神秘的致命病毒性疾病。 如果美国军事访问和完全无关的偶然实验室泄漏恰好同时发生,那将是一个奇怪的巧合。

(4)Covid-19的特性,包括高沟通性和低致死性,绝对是反经济生物武器的理想选择。 随机的实验室泄漏会释放出一种设计得足以严重破坏中国经济的病毒,这似乎很奇怪。

(5)从爆发爆发的那一刻起,美国的反华博客作者和美国资助的亚洲自由电台发起了针对中国的强大国际宣传攻势,称武汉爆发是由于来自武汉实验室的非法生物武器。 这可能只是我们的宣传机构异常迅速但机会主义的反应,但它们似乎非常迅速地充分利用了完全出乎意料和神秘的发展,他们立即确定这是由于实验室泄漏造成的。

(6)到“ 11月的第二周”,我们的国防情报局已经开始准备秘密报告,警告武汉将发生“催化性”疾病暴发,尽管根据当时的标准时间表,可能只有几十人开始了活动。在XNUMX万的城市中经历了任何疾病症状。 他们如何比中国政府或其他任何人早发现武汉发生的事情?

(7)不久之后,伊朗的统治政治精英受到严重感染,其中许多人死亡。 为什么意外的武汉实验室泄漏事件在如此之快的影响力席卷全球几乎其他任何地方之前,便如此迅速地跳入了伊朗的政治精英。

 

根据上述建议得出的结论,我也认为对Covid-19爆发的合理情况提供自己的总结对我很有用。 虽然我已经介绍了这个大纲 在2020年XNUMX月的一篇文章中,我认为不需要任何修改。 显然,这种重构具有很大的推测性,但是我认为它最适合所有现有证据,而单个元素可以修改,删除或替换,而不必损害整体假设。

(1)我们大型国家安全机构中可能与“深州新保守派”有关联的流氓分子决定使用生物战对中国庞大的经济造成严重损害。 该计划是用Covid-19感染武汉的主要交通枢纽,以便在每年的农历新年旅行期间将这种疾病无形地传播到整个国家,并且他们利用武汉国际军事运动的掩护溜了几下。特工进入市区释放病毒。 我的猜测是,该图只涉及相对较少的个体。

(2)他们释放的生物制剂主要是为了反经济而不是杀伤性武器而设计的。 尽管Covid-19的病死率很低,但它具有极强的传染性,具有很长的症状前感染期,甚至可以通过无症状携带者传播,因此非常适合该目的。 因此,一旦它在中国大部分地区建立起来,将很难根除,而由此而来的控制它的努力将对中国的经济和社会造成巨大的损害。

(3)作为次要行动,他们决定针对伊朗的政治精英,可能会部署一种更具致命性的病毒变种。 由于政治精英通常都比较老,因此无论如何他们都会遭受更大的死亡。

(4)在东亚和近东爆发的致命SARS和MERS疫情从未显着扩散回美国(或欧洲),因此,绘图员错误地认为Covid-19也是如此。 无论如何,因为 国际组织始终将美国和欧洲评为拥有最佳和最有效的公共卫生系统来对抗任何疾病的流行,他们认为任何可能的反吹损害都是很小的。

(5)只有少数个人直接参与了这一阴谋,在该疾病在武汉成功获释后不久,他们决定通过向国防情报局警告有关部门,可能是通过编造一些人,来进一步维护美国自身的利益。一种所谓的“智能泄漏”。 基本上,他们安排DIA听到武汉显然正在遭受“催化性”疾病暴发,从而导致DIA准备并分发了一份秘密报告,警告我们自己的部队和盟国采取适当的预防措施。

(6)不幸的是,对于这些计划,中国政府以惊人的决心和效力做出了反应,并很快消灭了这种疾病。 同时,缺乏狂妄和无能的美国政府在很大程度上忽视了这个问题,只是在意大利北部大规模爆发引起媒体关注之后才做出反应。 由于CDC破坏了测试套件的生产,我们没有办法认识到这种疾病已经在我们国家蔓延,结果对美国的经济和社会造成了巨大破坏。 实际上,美国遭受了原本打算送给中国竞争对手的命运。

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  1. 在妖魔化中国的任何叙事中,没有理由相信西犹太大公国(Judeo-Neoliberal West)。 这些人告诉我们,维吾尔族人被烟熏腊肉扼杀和淹死在啤酒中,您难道不认为他们会撒谎是我们这个年轻世纪最重大的流行病吗?

    • 回复: @GomezAdddams
    , @JWalters
  2. Gizmo880 说:

    当然是合理的,但有两个观察结果:

    1)“深州兔子洞”是如此之大和分隔,除非有复杂的人参与,否则外行人只能勉强猜测动机和负责任的人。

    2)即使在这种情况下,中国是“受害者”,他们也没有西方对手更值得信赖或道德更高。 他们不是我们的“主人”,而是“好人”。

  3. 从第三段开始。

    数以百万计的美国人已经死亡,其中包括成千上万的美国人。
    …。现在暗示我们的国内死亡人数已经超过900,000万。

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    哇,我很难读到那本书。 相反,我买这个:
    7.疾病预防控制中心后来承认,94%的死亡具有潜在疾病。 这意味着被掩盖为SARS-CoV-527,000的流感变种导致的2例死亡 实际上只有6%是由Covid19直接造成的,即31,620。 这使0.12万病例中的实际病死率达到27%。

    和这个:
    9. CDC将肺炎,流感和Covid19合并为一种新的流行病,称为PIC,以增加Covid19的死亡人数。

    疾病预防控制中心(CDC)于3年2020月5日当周的统计数据证实,肺炎和流行性感冒与Covid相结合会增加死亡率。 2021年XNUMX月XNUMX日的报告也是如此。 搜索结果页中强调了混淆,其中仅提及“(P&I)”,但单击链接时会显示PIC图。 流感导致的死亡人数从61,000年的2018人下降到22,000年的2020人,

    这里更多……一篇出色的文章; 集体诉讼提起。 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/gary-g-kohls/no-jab-for-me-and-here-are-35-reasons-why/

  4. Unz先生,谢谢您的工作。

    Although this article is primarily about the origins of Covid-19, I want to bring up an important point. The fact of the matter is that the lethality of the virus is HUGELY overstated, and deaths being attributed to Coronavirus are NOT actually deaths caused by the Virus. We can tell this by looking at the CDC’s own numbers.

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    As of May 2, 202, The total “covid” death count was 560,616. Out of these people, their were 257,022 with Flu or Pneumonia, 89,748 with Diabetes, 110,763 with hypertensive disease, 210,769 suffered from respiratory failure, 53,604 had sepsis. ETC. 平均而言,每个被计为共死的患者都有另外4种严重的,通常是致命的疾病。 Interestingly enough, 11,227 patients had “intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning, and other adverse events” which translates in laymen’s terms as 自杀。

    对于任何实际关注的人来说,这应该是显而易见的,并且显而易见,80岁以上的人死于致命的长期健康状况,从老实说,不能将其视为大流行病的死亡。

    被该病毒杀死的年轻健康人的数量几乎接近百万分之一。 他们假装这是黑死病,并于2020年将地球上的大部分地区软禁。 他们有一个议程,我们被骗了。 政府对所谓的大流行病的反应与微小的杀伤力不成比例,以至于整个事情都是骗局。

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

  5. There is of course a 4th possibility as well: That the pandemic was engineered by some organization with hidden influence over both the Chinese and US state apparatuses. Why was Bat Lady taught her techniques by a US scientist? Why did the Gates foundation fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan when it was nearly banned in the US? I don’t claim this is a slam dunk, just a possibility.

  6. Does anyone remember the story on the 2nd day of Trump’s Presidency that he raided the CDC? The Atlanta airport was closed for nearly a day while they stopped a cargo plane. I cannot find the story now.

    • 回复: @Wade
    , @Mark Hunter
  7. “(2) The biological agent they released was designed primarily as an anti-economy rather than an anti-personnel weapon.”

    If the early reports of Han Chinese having many times the ACE2 receptors in their lungs than their european-descended counterparts are true, that would lead me to conclude that the anti-personnel aspect of the virus was also likely a very prominent part and focus of its development and not accidental….

  8. What role does the “Covidiazation” of the regular seasonal flu play in all this? The flu has basically disappeared in the west…supplanted by Covid-19.

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    I haven’t heard one description of someone getting “the covID” where the symptoms thereof didn’t sound exactly like what we used to call the “flu” and/or, a case of the flu that escalated into pneumonia.

    Perhaps the NATO armies did spread some bioweapon while in Wuhan [I would not doubt it] and perhaps some assets did also spread this bioweapon around in the West [Italy, Spain, etc.] upon their return from the World Military Games…but I think that was a limited targeted attack–just to get the CovID ball rolling.

    After that, it was [and is] total smoke and mirrors, fudged stats based on the fraudulently mis-used PCR test and fake computer “models”. It’s like the sign I’ve often seen at the rallies and marches I’ve participated in: ” If you didn’t watch TV…would you know there was a Pandemic going on?”

    • 同意: Publius 2, R2b
  9. Tdstype2 说:

    Thank you for this really truth seeking article and the guts to print it….

    • 回复: @John Wayne
    , @profnasty
  10. I am ~ 67% sure it is a bioweapon attack.

    It is completely impossible to figure out who is attacking who, so far. For all we know it is one Chinese Communist Party faction attacking another Chinese Communist Party faction. It is a pity virtually nobody cares to investigate. People like yourself and Wade deserve kudos.

    Everybody should read Wade’s article if they haven’t. Some thoughtful user posted it to the newslinks section within a day.

    • 回复: @romanempire
    , @Mark Hunter
  11. SafeNow 说:

    Two points. First, I will underscore the point that a dog that did not bark here comprises the specialized faculty of elite medical centers, because of grant money and career protection. This applies not only to the origins issue, but to every Covid-management issue. A recent case can serve as an example. An op-ed appeared in the Wall Street Journal, in which a brave, prominent medical specialist at an elite institution contradicted the official view. One wishes he could have closed with something like “19 of my 20 colleagues here at Elite University X agree with me.” To most people, the negative implication of his failing to do so is that he is quite unable to do so, because he is the only one believing what he thinks. It is actually the cowardice of his colleagues, who probably silently agree but won’t say do, even anonymously. The upshot is that a solitary figure finds himself opposed by Dr. Fauci’s armamentarium of experts. The op-ed does more harm than good.

    Second, Ron is restrained by limiting his argument for a Military-Games origin to the coincidences of time and place. I do not mean to discount the force of his “2 coincidences” argument. Treating this as a multiplicative function of time matchup and hostworthy-cities matchup, I would estimate it as a one-in-250 coincidence. But there also exist anomalous, curious aspects pertinent to the team, and its hotel. I have itemized these twice before and will not do so again. As Perry Mason would say, these are but circumstantial evidence. But to me, these anomalies, taken together, carry much weight.

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Alden
    , @Tzigane
  12. 实际上,美国遭受了原本打算送给中国竞争对手的命运。

    实际上,美国对其本国人口进行了催眠诱导,并将其归咎于中国竞争对手。 存在并占所有僵尸的僵尸。

    • 同意: Publius 2
  13. Yee 说:

    (Pardon for double posting. Below is my post from another thread. I’ve seen many people assuming Wuhan lab as capable as American military lab in making bio-weapons, which is very unlikely.)

    “戴金的文章指向了中国”

    这很荒谬,因为您没有在像武汉实验室这样的实验室中制造生物武器。

    武汉实验室是中国唯一的P4实验室。 它于2018年开业,到2年爆发时才刚满2020岁。工作人员很可能仍在学习如何运营全新设施。 它也是民用的,有很多国际交流。 在他们的头脑中,没有人会在这样的实验室中制造生物武器。

    SARS 1被怀疑是生物武器,因为时机也非常好。 它始于美国入侵伊拉克之前。 这可能是警告中国不要干涉伊拉克,或让中国陷入国内危机。

    • 谢谢: Sarah
    • 回复: @Irish Savant
  14. Covid是当前的恐怖运动。 以前是气候变化。 没用在此之前,9/11与穆斯林恐怖主义。 有桑迪·胡克(Sandy Hook)。 它会一直持续下去。 恐吓民众。

    我养一些鸡,好好对待它们。 他们很容易受到惊吓。 就像大多数人一样,

    他们现在正在释放混乱的罪行。 当然,这样做的目的是恐吓广大民众,但更具体地说,是夺取枪支。 他们对持枪感到非常恐惧。

    不久他们将释放外星人。 或最新,最致命的病毒。 但是,无论如何,人口都会像母鸡一样受到惊吓。

  15. Thomasina 说:

    Great article. It probably was artificially produced and intentionally leaked. But aren’t all successful viruses non-lethal? Viruses want to spread, and if they were lethal, they’d kill the host before getting very far.

    But I propose there is a THIRD scenario: that the virus was artificially produced and intentionally leaked by both the U.S. AND China, that China was never the real target (although it would suffer deaths too).

    Fauci had some involvement with that Wuhan Lab. The U.S. had some association with that lab. I’ll see if I can dig up that information.

    Didn’t Trump want to close down the flights from China and elsewhere, but there were cries of “racism” from the usual movers and shakers? It was almost like they wanted it to enter the U.S. Why?

    And they have fought all of the alternative off-patent medications that could have stopped the disease in its tracks. Why?

    The globalists have made a killing off manufacturing in China, along with the Chinese elite. These are the people who are in control of the government. Biden has apparently received money from the Chinese. I don’t for one second think that these people wanted to seriously see this cozy relationship come to an end. They certainly fought Trump on the tariffs.

    And it helped to get rid of Trump too, although it took rigging the election to ensure he was finally gone. Who’s talking about bringing jobs back now? Tariffs? No one.

    No, I think something else occurred. The economy was seriously rolling over in the fall of 2019 – worldwide. Something had to be done, an excuse had to be made for injecting trillions into the world economy. All central banks have complied. The monopolies are now stronger than ever.

    It’s always about the economy, the world banking system. Follow the money.

    • 不同意: Sarah
  16. bcos 说:

    When I first saw Trevor Noah (on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show”) tell his audience how great Fauci was, compared to Trump, I knew something was up. He said it was like being on an airplane ride with a pilot who said “things are going to get bumpy” [Fauci] vs. a pilot who said “there’s nothing bad happening” [Trump]. It’s as though they knew the script was to take down America over a prolonged timescale, and had to convince the American public to go along with it. US mainstream TV, and celebrities, have been fawning all over Fauci from the get-go. Giving him god-like status. I say to hell with them. Down with their religious figure. Blaspheme and reject Fauci:



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    • 同意: Sarah
  17. Alfred 说:

    每个人都有权对此事发表自己的看法。 我非常怀疑真相很快就会浮出水面。 可能永远不会。 好吧,这是我的版本。

    1- 这一切都是计划好的,病毒是经过设计的。 到目前为止,真正的病毒还没有被分离出来,所以我们应该看到的可能是一种乘客病毒。

    2- 这家企业背后的犯罪分子认为它会杀死 3% 的感染者,而不是 0.05% 的健康人。

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    3- 全球政客的所有同步行动都证实,他们正在从一个集中的来源获得行军命令。 几乎所有西方的政客——尤其是美国的政客——上任时资产很少,下任时却富有。 特朗普是个例外。

    4- 2020 年 XNUMX 月有人企图让美国股市崩盘。背后的人都是知名人士。 这一尝试失败了,股市迅速反弹。 股市崩盘会使政客们随后采取的行动更容易“推销”给公众。 恐惧会更大。

    5- PCR 测试用于操纵声称的“病例”数量。 该测试具有高度误导性,可以随意产生假阳性结果。 历史上从未有过没有症状的人被视为“病例”并被隔离。

    6- 真正专家对所有逆向意见的审查证实了整件事都是骗局。

    7- 封锁对空气传播感染的传播没有明显影响。 真正的目标是摧毁服务经济并在较贫穷的阶层中灌输恐惧和绝望。 摧毁小企业及其“富农”所有者。 历史上从未有过健康人被隔离的情况。

    8- 口罩和封锁会损害健康并产生长期的负面心理影响——尤其是对年轻人。

    9- 中国参与了这个阴谋——与西方全球主义者同伙。 太多的假视频起源于中国,没有受到任何审查。

    10- 未经测试的假 mRNA 疫苗可能导致过早死亡。 似乎那些被 mRNA “接种”过的人正在感染那些与他们亲近的人。 俄罗斯通过引入一种相对无害的经典疫苗打乱了全球主义者的计划。 俄罗斯疫苗可能是某种流感疫苗。 显然,西方的制药公司不希望透露这一点。

    11- 知道某个观点过于接近真相的一个可靠方法是当它被大声嘲笑和审查时。

    12- 我们已经准备好期待互联网的崩溃。 殖民管道的持续关闭可能是一次试运行。

    关于网络攻击,殖民地管道沉默了一天多

    13- 这种胡说八道将继续下去,直到人们醒来并把这些腐败的政客和他们的支持者绳之以法。 这可能会在 2024 年发生。

    14-比尔盖茨的离婚表明这个骗局背后的人陷入了混乱。 梅琳达盖茨可以预见这家企业的失败,并希望保护自己和她的孩子。 与想要一半的底池无关。

    昨天,我在公园遇到了我的一个朋友。 他刚从佛罗里达一个月回来。 他和我正常握手。 几个月前,当我最后一次见到他时,他在公园里只会摸手肘,戴着口罩。 我认为人们正在慢慢恢复理智。 奇怪的是,受教育程度越高的人似乎越容易上当受骗。



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  18. Biff 说:

    Has/will Ron Unz trust(ed) the establishment and take the vaccine?

  19. Tor597 说:

    几点:

    1) I disagree that the American operatives assumed it would not reach America.

    Part of the goal of this operation was to turn the world against China, and it is hard to do that if only China suffered. Having a a few hundred thousand deaths before the vaccine saved the say would be seen as a positive effect, so long as China suffered more.

    Keep in mind that America had the first workable vaccine, it was just held back for studying. And I belive we had the vaccine from day 1, and that gave us confidence that we could stop the pandemic from being too bad.

    2) There was a ton, and I mean a ton, of warning that this was coming soon in America. I believe there were 5 documented pandemic simulations with event 201 famously game planning for a Corona virus pandemic just a couple months before it happened.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/05/827692672/report-pentagon-aware-of-possible-coronavirus-threat-for-years

    Coronavirus specifically was seen as a threat years before it emerged, and the pentagon urged the president to prepare by increasing supplies of masks and other supplies.

    3) America has an extensive history of germ warfare use

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/04/09/new-revelations-on-germ-warfare-its-time-for-a-reckoning-with-our-history-from-the-korean-war/

    https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/a-concealed-war-crime-u-s-anthrax-bombings-of-china-during-the-korean-war-14782ceb40a9

    • 同意: Mulga Mumblebrain
    • 谢谢: Sarah
  20. This is a good hypothesis, and yet it neglects the very public statements made by Klaus Schwab, Prince Charlie, the WEF, Master BillyGates, etc ad nauseum about the Great Reset, not to mention a purposeful depopulation program. It also omits mention of Event201.

    Furthermore, it appears that it is in fact the spike protein on sars-cov-2 which causes illness. Here is just one such source; there are many more.

    https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

    It is thus not surprising that it is this protein that is coded-for in all four of the Western gene therapies, disguised as vaccines.

    Could it be that covid-19 is in fact a prion disease, and that there is no actual virus present? That would explain the murkiness involved in asking whether sars-cov-2 has actually been isolated.

    Also, Ron’s article does not mention the fact that the Corman-Drosten PCR-based test to detect the presence of sars-cov-2 is full of serious flaws, as can be seen here:

    cormandrostenreview.com

    If sars-cov-2 was a bioweapon used against China (and Ron’s evidence is clearly compelling, no question), and if it backfired on its perpetrators, why then was a clearly faulty test used as the first line of detection? Seems odd, don’t you think? And why the continuting wave after wave, with ever new variants discovered (hint: change the primers in the PCR, and you can detect “new” variants), when no infectious virus behaves this way?

    There is more to this.

    • 同意: Bugey libre
    • 谢谢: Sarah
    • 回复: @neprof
    , @Sarah
  21. 另一种情况与此处提供的证据一致。 例如,在科维德(Covid)爆发之前,人们普遍认为,美国的良好经济表现与特朗普对国际贸易谈判采取的“美国​​优先”强硬态度相结合,很可能会导致他连任。 俄国门调查的失败和后来的弹imp从根本上削弱了特朗普的支持,使他的敌人(尤其是处于“深度状态”)的敌人有很强的动机去考虑在其能力范围内采取更为严厉的措施。 因此,一种主要用作经济武器的,低致死率/高感染率的病毒被用来吓the美国人接受几乎完全经济停滞以及批发理由,这并非巧合。接受大量邮寄(即无法核实)的选票。 如果中国是美国暗中攻击的主要目标,那么人们会希望从那里进行的旅行会立即遭到封锁; 但是正如我记得的那样,特朗普的反对者歇斯底里地驳斥了这种审慎的措施,称其为“仇外心理”,并且不受限制。 的确,中国政府甚至可能事先了解释放情况,接受对其经济的短期打击,以支持(由美国纵深州领导的)针对唯一总统的新生政变,以期严重威胁其对美国经济的杠杆作用。制造业对它们的依赖。 归根结底,外国势力释放的致命生物制剂按照定义是战争行为,但是如果Unz是正确的,那么中国人对此反应就毫无生气。 这是外力和内力消除共同敌人的标记小组努力吗?

    • 同意: Weston Waroda
    • 谢谢: FLgeezer, ThreeCranes
    • 回复: @Thomasina
    , @Weston Waroda
  22. meamjojo 说:

    I might have missed it but I didn’t see reference to this article in your writing. This sounds quite plausible.

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    Chinese military scientists discussed weaponising SARS coronaviruses
    The editor-in-chief of the paper, Xu Dezhong, reported to the top leadership of the Chinese Military Commission and Ministry of Health during the SARS epidemic of 2003.
    The editor-in-chief of the paper, Xu Dezhong, reported to the top leadership of the Chinese Military Commission and Ministry of Health during the SARS epidemic of 2003.

    Sharri Markson, INVESTIGATIONS WRITER and Jack Hazlewood
    May 7, 2021

    Chinese military scientists discussed the weaponisation of SARS coronaviruses five years before the COVID-19 pandemic, outlining their ideas in a document that predicted a third world war would be fought with biological weapons.

    The document, written by People’s Liberation Army scientists and senior Chinese public health officials in 2015, was obtained by the US State Department as it conducted an investigation into the origins of COVID-19, The Weekend Australian has confirmed.

    The paper describes SARS ­coronaviruses as heralding a “new era of genetic weapons” and says they can be “artificially manipulated into an emerging human ­disease virus, then weaponised and unleashed in a way never seen before”.

    The revelation features in an upcoming investigative book on the origins of COVID-19, titled What Really Happened In Wuhan, to be published by Harper­Collins.
    ....
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/chinese-military-scientists-discussed-weaponising-sars-coronaviruses/news-story/850ae2d2e2681549cb9d21162c52d4c0

    • 回复: @Brás Cubas
  23. Anonymous[173]• 免责声明 说:
    @Gizmo880

    即使在这种情况下中国是“受害者”,他们也不比西方对手更值得信赖或道德更高。 他们不是我们的“主人”,而是“好人”。

    垃圾。 我们的“主人”故意使我的种族灭绝,并计划建立一个不可避免的全球监狱。 这在人类历史上是完全史无前例的,这使他们处于非常特殊的邪恶类别中。

    同时,中国的“主人”使自己的人民受益匪浅,并在国际上表现得体面。

    您的陈述没有数据或逻辑。 当根深蒂固的灌输受到可观察到的现实的挑战时,这通常是一种情感反应。

  24. Mr. Unz, I respect your deep dives into history that I have read, I respect your stalwart belief in free speech, and I respect you extremely well functioning web site.*

    That’s why I will be respectful here, when I say I don’t agree with this particular theory of yours, which is really not a 3 possibility, but a 2(b)中 (1 – natural origin, 2(a) man-made origin from China). I won’t argue the lethality on this one, as, for one thing, American excess death numbers have been calculated from a steady base-curve, as if America’s population isn’t aging-on-average pretty quickly Just a quick calculation gave me 1/3 of the excess death figures is just due to a higher natural death rate – 峰值愚蠢 will get to that next week.

    I’ve read some of your “Military visit to Wuhan/Ft. Detrick” writings. From this article, let me start here:

    Thus, portions of the US and Europe are now suffering heavy casualties, while the policies adopted to control the spread have devastated their national economies. The virus is unlikely to kill more than a small sliver of our population, but we have seen to our dismay how a major outbreak can so easily wreck our entire economic life.

    No, it’s NOT the virus that easily wrecked our entire economic life, it’s the unheard-of 反应 to it. If there is any conspiracy theory here, I’d say that is it, the major increase in Police State tactics by American governments at all levels – LOCKDOWNS, worthless at-first encouragement and then mandatory rules on the wearing of face diapers (even by kids – STILL TODAY – on the school playground at recess!)

    I don’t maintain that the never-tried-before reaction by governments, the Lyin’ Press, and other institutions WAS a big conspiracy, but that’s more likely than Deep State rogues implanting the virus in Wuhan – a theory backed by only circumstantial evidence. The big story that you have missed this whole time (very surprisingly to me) is that governments here “did not let a crisis go to waste”. The big media here is nothing but an arm of the Feral Government at this point.

    The Infotainment PanicFest for the American TV media in particular has been the OJ trial, Kardashians, Watergate hearings, and 10 presidential election rolled into one year’s worth of 24/7 talking head bullshit fest. Fear sells. That’s been known for along time. This thing was such a boon to the Lyin’ Press, it was the stuff of their wet dreams. Governments are another matter. I’ll get to that and to the China side in another comment.

    .

    * If you could ever see to it to bring on a Prepper-type columnist on here, many of us would really appreciate an outlet for that kind of discussion. There’s no doubt in my mind that the financial STHF is on the way on a timeline being shorted by a cool Trillion\$ at a time being spent by Washington, FS.

    • 回复: @Chrisnonymous
    , @nsa
  25. Anon[335]• 免责声明 说:

    Meanwhile (I speak for the EU, but I don’t think things will change much elsewhere, and I have read that Putin too has been pressured to “follow the line” and he made the concession to the West), vaccination is being made semi-coercive with the usual mixture of harsh, semi-threatening, apparently friendly and “sweet” attitudes and steps to apply non-stop psychological pressure, taken, of course!, in unison-like coordination by the Unified Media, parliaments, people-of-influence’s public declarations and show-offs of themselves doing the same (here’s pictures of governor X, actress Y, renowned professor Z, taking the vaccine: see how gleeful they are, while doing that?).

    Now we have the “Green Pass” to move between areas… and it doesn’t mean you are compelled to take the so-called vaccines, o, not at all that. It gives you 3 options. Either you prove you have had COVID and recovered (which means all people who have had it without enough troubles to notice they had it, the vast majority, can’t use this method), or you take the vaccine, or you get a molecular test with negative result. Point is, in the latter case your pass will have a 2-day validity, while in the others it’ll be 6 months.
    So you see, they coerce, but they aren’t coercing at all.

    • 谢谢: Bugey libre
  26. Anon[335]• 免责声明 说:
    @Gizmo880

    There’s the psychological need to believe that someone is “all good”, and, every time you side against a party, find another one to idealize (thus allowing yourself to support it without any half-heartedness or discomfort, and forget that when you choose a light to support, you are also supporting the shadows projected by that light).

  27. On, China, believe me, Mr. Unz, I have thought much of the country in the past, calling it the “Wild, Wild, East” – said as a good thing – 15 years back. Unfortunately, I can’t say that now. (See Dashed High Hopes for China (也 部分2.) I have respect for the hard work and the truly amazing infrastructure projects I have seen there myself. However, things have been going the wrong way, freedom-wise, I mean very badly in the wrong direction most particularly lately due to Xi Jinping’s having arranged for himself to be President and CCP Chairman for life about 3 years back.

    You (we, I should say) have every reason to suspect the US Government Deep State of nefarious deeds. However, the Chinese CCP is much more nefarious, helped out greatly by the fact that they don’t have to deal with affirmative action hires and Wokeness. I have Chinese sources. The news out of the place is not any more worthy of belief than that out of our Lyin’ Press. The Chinese government has also not let a crisis go to waste, as they have used this medical scare as a great way to increase the electronic Orwellian Police State there, with the phone app “health scoring” now.

    The reason China has not had its economy wrecked by this Kung Flu is simply that the government there does not work against the Chinese people in the way that American government works against the American people. That doesn’t mean just as high a number may be dying this year from this virus. You’re not going to get the truth out of that place – ask any Chinaman here, and he’ll tell you that.

    PS: I really wish you had gone to China for a while back before this whole brouhaha. You probably don’t recall, but in ’19, I did suggest that idea to you.

    • 同意: Dieter Kief, Sarah
  28. BlackFlag 说:

    “they used the cover of the Wuhan International Military Games to slip a couple of operatives into the city to release the virus. ”

    More discreet to use a tourist or embassy personnel than military personnel visiting China for the sports event. Anyhow, if Iran was also targeted, that must have been the way it was done. The opportunity argument based on the sports event seems weak. There is always opportunity.

    • 同意: Ace, James N. Kennett
    • 回复: @GomezAdddams
    , @anonym25
    , @dimples
  29. GMC 说:

    No doubt in my mind that Ron Unz has the best logical evidence of a BioWeapon being spread. Believing Anything the USG/OWO and their bought off ” Experts” have to say or write, shows just how programmed those believers are. Just the number of illegal international BioWeapons Labs that the West has around the world should – turn the light on. I mean – get a grip – the PCR test used around the world , should really be the smoking gun. RIP Kari Mullins {sp}. Thanks R U.

  30. Derer 说:

    Theory of biowarfare attack is quite plausible but I will suggest a different twist to it. The object of attack was not China but the Trump election defeat and China was framed for originating the attacked. The American society is highly polarized and so is the biowarfare community. Trump haters concocted a clandestine plan knowing that the virus will make more economic damage in American undisciplined society at right time than in China. The fact remains that the Covid19 made minimal damage to China, however was main contributor to Donald Trump losing the election. The inventors of the plan have had correct expectations.

    • 回复: @anonym25
  31. Now, as to your theory itself, I’ll address your points, from the first set:

    (1) Quality is just plain not JOB 1 in China. All American consumers who put up with 廉价的中国废话 know this. Why would the Wuhan lab be any exception to this? As for the previous epidemics, same story.

    (2) Of course it was the worst time! Chinese New Years (Spring Festival) is like our Christmas, Thanksgiving, and 4th of July rolled into one. If anyone ever goes home at all, including from America to China, that’s when they will go. Perhaps that’s WHY the virus spread quickly in Wuhan (and to America soon after). is it “bad timing” of the leak, or just the time when any screw up at a major micro-biological lab would have the worst effect?

    (3) Fine, a sports team travelled to China, to one of the biggest cities. Have any other big groups of Americans travelled for competitions, touring, University programs, anything else, to Chinese big cities? How about Beijing? Is the idea that the spread of the virus in Wuhan in particular would be blamed on the lab?

    (4) “It seems odd that a random lab-leak would release a virus so perfectly designed to severely damage the Chinese economy.” You just got done saying that this virus DIDN’T severely damage the Chinese economy (something I agree with).

    (5) I don’t see the point. Even with 95% of Americans (yes, number pulled out of my butt) believing that the virus came from China, that is not any major part of Americans’ animosity against Chinese people. It’s not personal at all in fact, but more the anger at American elites having sold out American manufacturing, while still letting in millions of Chinese people – legal and illegal (plenty!) to take the high level engineering/computer jobs that Americans could very well have done – nothing to do with the virus. We know these things come from the Orient most of the time.

    (6) Who are you to say it was only a dozen people infected in November? I’d be (if I cared) more likely to suspect that the Wuhan authorities knew they had a problem earlier, but would not reveal it out of fear of catching hell from the CCP and others. That’s the way it DOES GO in China.

    (7) I don’t know what went on in Iran. Was there an American sports team visiting, or any other large group?

    • 回复: @BlackFlag
  32. thotmonger 说:

    I am still waiting to learn about any evidence connecting the months of rioting last year to any Covid 19 outbreaks. i.e. Does this “highly infectious” disease actually behave as such? But that is just me.

    Unz tells us the first question of fake or real is settled. Fine. The next choice is whether Covid 19 is man-made or not. Unz believes it was engineered. Since many labs are dicking around with viruses, this is very possible.

    But the “third possibility” is NOT if Covid 19 was released by some “rogue element” within the United State, “probably affiliated with Deep State Neocons” (Read Zionists), but rather simply if the emergence of Covid 19 was intentional, or not. IF it was an intentional, man-made release, you cannot venture solely that America was behind it. Other players must be considered, including China, Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc.

    Indeed, if it was Zionists (i.e. Jewish Neocons) acting as rogues within USA, it is rather unfair to call this act of biowarfare American and to conclude “America suffered exactly the fate that had originally been intended for its Chinese rival.”

    In any case, while the world deserves to know the truth about this important detail, I pine for an essay by Unz regarding the larger question of how this “great plague” is being so extravagantly exploited by Big Pharma, Big Tech, and other Big Crooks for whom life usually tends to be rather cheap.

    • 谢谢: some_loon
  33. Perhaps Ron Unz is too generous to the CCP and maybe it was a deliberate attack against the US. After all, according to the CCP, they need more “lebensraum” and the US empty of Americans would provide just that.
    https://www.trunews.com/stream/china-general-pla-must-kill-all-americans-with-biological-weapons

    • 巨魔: Sarah
    • 回复: @YetAnotherAnon
  34. Prickly 说:

    Another excellent article by Ron. Why is it that everyone thinks im a nut case for trying to get them to see reason where this story is concerned. Logic is not a strong point for my fellow travelers. Anyway. Thanks ron. Keep em coming.

  35. so effectively target humans

    Taken together, Lemoine, Baker, and Wade have produced a large collection of high-quality articles on the origins of the global Covid-19 epidemic, but nowhere among their 54,000 words is there even a hint that the virus might possibly have had its origins in America’s well-documented and lavishly funded biowarfare program.

    we have seen to our dismay how a major outbreak can so easily wreck our entire economic life.

    Re The Old Microbiologist:

    他提出的一个重要观点是,高致死率在生物武器中通常会适得其反,因为使许多人衰弱或住院使他们丧生的经济损失要比仅仅造成同等死亡人数的生物制剂要多得多。 用他的话说:“高传染性,低致死性疾病非常适合破坏经济”,这表明冠状病毒的表观特征在这方面已接近最佳。

    George Webb had made a large number of YouTube vidoes of his investigations into the new Corona virus, and he concluded that from May 26, 2020: Was CoronaVirus a NATO ACT? – Look at Prewvious NATO ACTS


    视频链接

    and George Webb from May 24, 2020: CoronaVirus Roots – 50 Years of NATO Bioweapons Proxies


    视频链接

    • 谢谢: annamaria
  36. @ronunz

    Perhaps I am an easily duped moron whose pursuits into this matter are infantile and untouchably out there , but for the life of me , I cannot get over the previous and ongoing research that Dr. Stefan Lanka and others have done and continue to do regarding germ and virus theory…

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    The most recent is here and constitutes , for this possible pseudo-intellectual here , a potent and direct refutation of the methodology which the “virus theory” pushers use to prove that their chosen entities actually are responsible for what they say they are…

    When one looks into this field , it seems that THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CONTROL EXPERIMENT to control for the possibility that the so-called cytogenic effect (which they have substituted for traditional purification and isolation techniques as “proof”) is not just something that happens to a cell removed from the host body and its nutrient source , soaked in fermaldahyde , antiobiotic stew , and a slew of other industrially produced compounds , as well as “starved” to a degree . Lanka has done this control and it turns out that the SAME EFFECT occurs with cells upon which their little death particles HAVE NOT been placed. THE CELL DOES THE EXACT SAME THING which they are attributing to their “virus” particle introduction . I beleive this is the thrid such study conducted by Lanka via independent labs – Look here :



    视频链接

    What I do not understand , after posting for nearly a year , being ignored , posts not making it into the comments , etc , is WHY @ronunz does not even care to broach the issue ?

    What gives ? Might you care to look into and refute Dr. Lanka , Dr. Kaufman , PCR test inventor himself , Kary Mullis … Deusberg’s book on the AIDS crisis ? The great folks at the PERTH institute ? Exosome theory ?

    Why isn’t this information worth considering to you , Mr. Unz ?

    Is all this stuff just beneath you or something ?

    • 同意: John Fisher
    • 谢谢: Emslander, Alfred
  37. You missed the fourth “theory” … in my view, the only credible one.

    Given that no one has ever isolated (and therefore identified the genetic constituents of the Sars-Cov-2 virus OR ANY OTHER PATHOGENIC VIRUS) … and recognising that it has been demonstrated that the Sars-Cov-2 genome has been constructed from a computer template.

    i.e. it has been created by the mind of man, not by nature.

    Given that the “virus” is a unicorn that no one has ever seen, how can a genuine test for that virus be anything other than a fraud.

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    it was known for centuries that irregular and intense electromagnetic radiation emitted from the sun’s CORONA (How these Satanists mock us) generated at times of maximum sunspot activity caused serious chest infections . Hence their name “INFLUENZA” (from ‘influenza delle stelle’ [influence of the stars.)

    Given that the only available science re transmissibility of flu-like illneses demonstrates they are NOT CONTAGIOUS … read Virus Mania or The Invisible Rainbow for reports on experiments carried out in the USA during the Spanish Flu.

    Given all this and the fact the Diamond Princess was the first fully 5G’d cruise liner and Wuhan the first fully 5G’s city on earth the PRIME SUSPECT AS CAUSE OF COVID INFECTIONS IS 5G RADIATION.

    正如你所说:
    “… A pattern of selective omissions in an otherwise entirely truthful presentation can easily mislead …”

    • 同意: John Fisher, Alfred
    • 回复: @Spect3r
  38. IronForge 说:

    Excellent Summary.

    Add to that, the 300 Army Olympics Participant Team ranked 31st – Not their “A” Team.

  39. Bigtone 说:

    先生
    Have followed you for years and admire you greatly.
    I have trouble however in following a proposition in this wonderfull treatise.
    A bio weapon is released in October November by undercover operatives in the Military Games.
    You then state that Maximum damage to be achieved in the travel hub of Wuhan During Lunar New Year.
    This was in late January.
    This is some two to three months after it was released.
    So I don’t quite understand how it could have been predicted to have taken hold to cause Maximum effect at Lunar New Year travel.
    This seems to be inconsistent with the somewhat “immediate” reactive deaths to Iranian elites.
    谢谢,继续努力。
    Tony Stewart from Down Under

    • 同意: Ace
    • 回复: @agnosticon
    , @naill
  40. mijj 说:

    > “This global outbreak first began in Wuhan”

    tut tut.

    the first publicly known detection was in Wuhan. To say Wuhan was the first outbreak is wishful thinking.

    To expose the lack of reason: gravity was first identified in Cambridge by Isaac Newton in the 17th Century. Gravity did not originate in Cambridge in the 17th century.

  41. https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-human-fingerprints-all-over-the-virus/

    Interesting article just published entitled “The human fingerprints all over the virus”, which has several relevant references that are worth citing:

    1. “Smoking gun” research from 2015 describing how the spike protein can be manipulated to produce a “chimeric virus” with the property that

    Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

    2. a paper published last year on a Norwegian website last year by a Norwegian virologist and 2 colleagues, which

    tracks in detail how these and other unique features of the virus came about, from work on bat and human viruses first reported in 2008 by Dr Zheng-Li Shi and Wuhan Institute of Virology colleagues, through collaboration with American researchers working with human epithelial cells, which are widespread throughout the body, and culminating in a virus capable of infecting human lung, taste, intestinal and other tissues

    https://www.minervanett.no/angus-dalgleish-birger-sorensen-coronavirus/the-evidence-which-suggests-that-this-is-no-naturally-evolved-virus/362529

    https://www.minervanett.no/files/2020/07/13/TheEvidenceNoNaturalEvol.pdf

    • 谢谢: annamaria
  42. Anonymous[479]• 免责声明 说:

    An article posted on http://www.Axisoflogic.com describes the whole charade of COVID-19 and related issues. Here: http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_88611.shtml

  43. In 1747 James Lind found the cure for scurvy, lack of Vitamin C in the diet. However, the blind germ theory doctors fought the cure for 150 YEARS!! They enlisted the lying mainstream media and whore doctors to dispute the Vitamin C cure and insisted on quarantines, poison vaccines, etc instead. Other diseases followed this same pattern. No one has proven the existence of any harmful C virus to date, per Koch’s Postulates.

    [更多]
    Yet, the mostly blind medical establishment, Big Pharma, lying mainstream media do not care about that. No matter what the illness, there is money to be made with poison vaccines, and other stupid practices like quarantines, not for the sick as in the past, but quarantines for the healthy also. This new practice is historic in its ignorance. The lockdowns have destroyed many businesses and made a few people rich by stealing those failing businesses. So, anyone who talks about the C virus as being real, is ignorant of the required proofs, Koch’s Postulates, and is playing into the hands of Big Pharma. The CDC has already admitted they faked the numbers. Whore doctors labeled deaths from other causes as C virus deaths because the victim MIGHT have had one of the C virus symptoms, a sneeze, a cough, a temperature. Talk about fraud. But, those doctors received cash awards from the governments for their lies, or misdiagnosis. Finally, there has been a growing number of doctors and nurses to expose the hoax, and some politicians are finally seeing the light. God will judge all the liars, eventually. Although it would be nice to see many go to prison, like Fauci and Gates.

    • 同意: Bro43rd
  44. Fenrir 说:

    Facts: masks did stop seasonal flu in its tracks, but they could not put an end to covid-19 (avian flu). Therefore the principal mode of transmission of covid-19 is atmosphere to individual, a fact well-known in the field of astrobiology. That is why masks and lockdowns are useless.

    [更多]

    Facts: covid-19 was over in February 2020. It was the catastrophic decision of some scientists, taken on January 11, 2020, to start the trial vaccines (using HeLa cells in the lab). As soon as these trial vaccines got started, a new powerful strain appeared at the end of January 2020, the D614G strain. By March 2020, D614G had replaced the original Wuhan variant. Yet, the vaccines (mRNA and adenovirus) were created for the Wuhan variant, which is long gone. From the very start, a suboptimal response was created for the vaccination campaign.

    Facts: the B.1.1.7, B.1.351 and P.1 strains emerged all over Eastern Europe, all over the territories at once, mostly without travel history. Local health departments were at a loss to explain the phenomenon.

    The new wave (starting in August 2021) will include some 75% of the 10% of the vaccinated persons (10% is the accepted percentage, since we are told that the vaccines have some 90% efficacy (RRR,relative risk reduction; however, the ARR absolute risk reduction is 0.7%, respectively 1.1% for these vaccines)).

    Should that figure (10%) be overtaken later in the fall, people will start to understand that no vaccines will be able to stop the pandemic, especially when reassortment viruses will start to emerge.

    A third booster shot will only activate the antigenic sin condition.

    What is covid-19? Avian flu (M. avium, or mycobacterium avium, together with its passenger viruses, such as sars-cov-2).

    In the past, similar pandemics were observed, first influenza, to be followed by the real pathogenic agents raining down from the atmosphere.

    • 巨魔: Theophrastus
  45. Mr. Unz’ analysis, drawing together all the evidence of a real-life machiavellian scheme to destroy the Chinese economy, is irrefutable IMO. If Mr. Unz’ case was presented by the prosecution in a court of law (in a jurisdiction where real law is practiced, not an American one, of course) then the jury would inevitably be satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that Corona Chan is a Team America ® product, with the USA in particular being the guilty party.

    Given the journalistic depth and competence of Mr. Unz’ research into the curious case of Benjamin Corona Chan, though, I would be very interested to know how he sees creepy Bill and Uncle Klaus’ pre-Corona preparations at Event 201 fitting into the mix? It seems that more than just the American and selected foreign militaries had foreknowledge of Corona Chan’s genesis.

    Who exactly is pulling the strings and calling the shots? Creepy billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates is widely considered to have control of the World Health Organisation and its many subsidiary agencies, and has a stranglehold on the global “health care” industry through his symbiotic involvement with Big Pharma, and there’s no question that he and others in his cohort have leveraged Corona Chan to dictate government policies globally and effect massive transfers of power and wealth from the people to corporate cartels, with the prospect of George Orwell’s 1984 now looming as a very real prospect across the Western world.

    但是, – and this is the point of my question – if Corona Chan was an act of American biological warfare (and IMO that’s exactly what it was) does creepy Bill’s 预知 evidenced by Event 201 indicate that creepy Bill and Uncle Klaus were in the loop with the American military and elements of the American government甚至可能 calling the shots?

    Curious people would like to know.

  46. Millions have already died, including many hundreds of thousands of Americans, with a newly released research study by the University of Washington’s authoritative Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) now suggesting that our domestic death-toll has already exceeded 900,000.

    “Authoritative”: hands up who had ever heard of this trusted authority before?

    Their study is codswallop: they 开始 by presuming all excess deaths in 2020 to be COVID deaths; they calculate, globally, that pandemic control measures led to 400,000 to 600,000 deaths; and while they pay lip service to the idea that these measures may have also killed people, they decline to count almost all of those deaths on the grounds of “limited evidence”. Unsurprisingly, they find COVID deaths to be undercounted.

    [更多]

    And they’d have to be, right? If all excess deaths were caused by COVID, and the pandemic measures on balance saved many lives, then there is a large deficit of deaths – purportedly expected, not excess – that requires explanation; and if you rule out pandemic measures as the cause, you are left with COVID or some third massive unusual driver of mortality that has somehow escaped everyone’s notice.

    -------------

    Rogue elements within our large national security apparatus probably affiliated with the Deep State Neocons…

    Egg’s on their face since Israel took a clobbering, I guess.

    I don’t know why it’s necessary for these elements to be “rogue”.

    …Covid-19 has rather low fatality rates, it is extremely contagious, has a long pre-symptomatic infectious period, and can even spread by asymptomatic carriers…

    Surely we all know asymptomatic transmission to be bullshit by now? Most “asymptomatic carriers” are false positives or people who are immune to the virus.

    …the Chinese government reacted with astonishing determination and effectiveness, and soon stamped out the disease.

    Yes, these high-IQ Hans have left us round-eyes red-faced once again. Truly the 21st will be the Chinese century…

    Alternatively, it suited Chinese elites to claim success, and western elites to cry havoc.

    I’ve said elsewhere that Ron’s biowarfare hypothesis is looking better all the time, but that doesn’t mean it’s perfect.

  47. My aesthetic caveat: Good stories make perfect sense. The ones dealing with the real world don’t. So, this essay qualifies as being 好得难以置信.
    (Or to put it slightly differently: Not rough enough to be real (= accurate)).

    • 同意: Achmed E. Newman
    • 哈哈: some_loon
  48. BlackFlag 说:
    @Sparkylyle92

    是的,非国家演员也更容易保守秘密。 毕竟,许多政府的权力已经被私人实体所掩盖。 也许甚至是个人的不满,例如狂欢射击。

    • 回复: @Geowhizz
  49. @Gizmo880

    即使在这种情况下中国是“受害者”,他们也不比西方对手更值得信赖或道德更高。

    对,他们是。

    历史上除了以前富裕的美国民众当前的各自轨迹与中国人民的日益繁荣之间的简单当代对比之外,历史着重说明了这一点。

    China is a mercantile entity – it accomplishes it’s purposes through negotiation and trading. Examine it’s multi-millennial track record – China doesn’t do war, unless it’s forced to defend itself.

    Contrast this with the several centuries of the USA’s blood-soaked existence. The USA uses money to coerce compliance with it’s will, always for its own advantage at the expense of its counterparts in a zero-sum game, and backs that up with assassinations, false flags, staged “colour revolutions”, proxy “civil wars” and outright unilateral military invasion and destruction of any nation that dares to challenge or assert independence from its rule.

    The ruling American elites apply these principles in equal measure to their own people as much to foreign entities. Remember Pearl Harbour – they set it up, they knew it was coming, and they let it happen. Remember the Liberty – do you really even need to ask? Remember Operation Northwoods – only President Kennedy had the conscience and morality to put a halt to that, and we all know President Kennedy’s fate at the hand of US Army snipers. Remember Operation Gladio, where European governments got to do the slaughter and mayhem on their own people that President Kennedy stopped when he killed Operation Northwoods. Remember 11 September 2001 – not only did the American government organise and carry out this atrocity, the American people enthusiastically went along with it. And so on it goes.

    在任何关于诚信的竞争中,与美国相比,中国在账本的优势方面都遥遥领先。 与中国打交道类似于与公平但精明的商人打交道。 美国就像一群失控的黑帮一样值得信赖。

    • 同意: Realist, annamaria, As I see it
    • 回复: @GeeBee
    , @nosquat loquat
    , @Franz
  50. BlackFlag 说:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    (4) “It seems odd that a random lab-leak would release a virus so perfectly designed to severely damage the Chinese economy.” You just got done saying that this virus DIDN’T severely damage the Chinese economy (something I agree with).

    The plan didn’t work because China responded with unprecedented quarantines.

    (7) I don’t know what went on in Iran. Was there an American sports team visiting, or any other large group?

    All you need is someone working at the embassy or a tourist. Because it infected their political elite, maybe a diplomat. It is strange how it happened to the political elite of Iran and not other countries. Has someone tracked the movement of their politicians during this time? For example, maybe a well-connected politician was in Wuhan at the time.

    • 回复: @Irish Savant
  51. @stevennonemaker88

    So, let’s get this straight. If I am drunk and run into a tree, I did not die of a fatal accident I died of alcoholism? And, if I have diabetes and trip and fall I died of diabetes and not from hitting my head? And, if I have COPD and suffer a stroke I died of COPD and not the stroke? Are you serious?

    关键是几乎有一百万人死了,如果他们不赶上COVID 19就不会丧命。让它沉没。如果没有抓住COVID 19,将有近一百万人活着并过着生活。谁在乎他们呢?有病吗? 他们之所以死是因为他们抓住了COVID19。如果他们没有抓住它,他们将活着。

    What don’t you understand about that? It isn’t that hard. It does not matter that they were old. It does not matter they had heart disease. It does not matter they had COPD. If they had not caught COVID 19 they would be ALIVE today. They died because they got COVID 19. Nearly a million people are dead because they caught COVID. Let it sink in.

  52. @Just another serf

    “新冠病毒是当前的恐怖活动。 以前是气候变化。 没用。 在此之前,9/11 和穆斯林恐怖主义。 有桑迪胡克。 它会一直持续下去。 恐吓民众。 ”

    是的,总是有四个步骤的相同 MO。

    1. 宣布灾难性的紧急情况——“我们都会死。”
    2. 需要“紧急”权力——“我们需要它们来保护你免于死亡”
    3. 妖魔化怀疑论者——“忽略阴谋论者和怪人。”
    4. 承诺万灵药——“疫苗正在研制中。”

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2021/02/back-to-normal-i-told-you-so.html

    • 同意: TTSSYF, Just another serf
    • 回复: @RoatanBill
  53. 关于病毒自然起源的科学论点变得微不足道,从而自动提升了竞争性实验室泄漏假说,该假说先前被谴责并污名化为所谓的“阴谋论”。 例如,尽管进行了十五个月的艰苦努力,但中国人未能找到任何证据表明任何野生生物种群中都携带有密切相关的前体病毒,而在以前的SARS和MERS等新兴病毒流行病例中很容易找到这种证据。 确实,与Covid-19亲缘关系最近的自然只存在于蝙蝠中,而这些蝙蝠都位于距武汉爆发近1,000英里的云南山洞中。

    This article’s thesis rests on the assumption that, because China raised the alarm about Covid-19, the virus originated in China, an odd inference if ever there was one, given that China was the only country with a Coronavirus detection network.

    我们也知道,疾病预防控制中心发现Covid-19在美国之前先在美国,与意大利,西班牙和法国的调查结果一致。 

    自13年2019月XNUMX日起在美国进行的存档的红十字会血液样本测试表明,全国范围内存在高水平的Covid抗体。 阅读美国献血的血清学检测以鉴定SARS-CoV-2-反应性抗体:2019年2020月至XNUMX年XNUMX月, Sridhar V Basavaraju,医学博士等。 https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1785/6012472.

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    Here’s the summary data from that paper, with the boldfaced numbers calculated from the CDC’s percentages:

    由于我们知道Covid在美国每139天就会有两倍的死亡人数,并且有70,000美国人在2020年2015月死于该病毒,因此我们可以在此处计算该病毒的大致到达日期,即XNUMX年:

    既然世卫组织报告说,2019年XNUMX月之前中国没有这种病毒的迹象,我们可以非常有信心Covid不是中国的发明。

    有两个事实证明了这一结论:

    1.武汉不是一个生物武器设施,设计,建造和监督该设施的法国科学家以及在该实验室工作的美国科学家都证明了这一点。

    2.过去,美国对中国和其他国家发起了许多生物攻击,并在全球范围内建立了400至4,000个生物战中心。

    我的钱是2010年左右在印度自然产生的。下注。

  54. gotmituns 说:

    At this point, the “origins” aren’t important, only combatting the massive media propaganda campaign and the vaccine.

    • 同意: Publius 2, GMC, Alfred
  55. Mike Tre 说:

    The truth in one sentence:

    The severity of this unremarkable virus was monumentally over exaggerated by the cowardly medical bureaucracies, assisted by the criminally and greedy stupid (social) media / retail machine, and exploited by just about every local, state and federal* executive / agency to seize more authority and control over an already complicit citizenry.

    It really is as simple as that. The rest is fodder.

    *Your country may vary.

  56. some_loon 说:

    If China’s leadership is of similar opinion to Ron Unz on this matter, it would explain their initial response (after a period of denial and of ignoring it).

    The Chicoms may now figure their best response is to shrug it off while letting the west engage in self-harm.

    Many places have had large protests against lockdowns. I know of nowhere that has seen a public demonstration demanding a stay-at-home order, the closure of schools, the prohibition of public gatherings, or anything like that.

    China’s people will not rebel against being allowed to live their lives as they have been, even if the goverment there covers up Coronavirus deaths.

    • 回复: @CanSpeccy
  57. My comment 36 was merely preparatory jotting towards a comment. How it got published only my mysterious keyboard knows for sure….

    I was intending to make the point that while biowarfare clearly seems involved, the fourth line of inquiry – as mentioned above in some of the comments – makes far more sense: The “great Reset” – aka incredibly evil totalitarian arrogance – is not an ad hoc mere taking advantage of an opportune new health problem.

    Rather, it is an extremely ambitious, planned. massively financed and coordinated operation that involves extensive censorship of just about every honest and sensible or independent inquiry of the subject in global mass media.

    In Canada for example not just has the major media incessantly promoted COVID propaganda and censored contrary opinion, analysis and fact, but small local media across Canada have participating in the hype and manipulation.

    The lies and censorship and draconian policies included constantly invoking the vision of the ultimate saviour up ahead: the wonderful ‘vaccines’, aka evil shit. Which has arrived.

    • 同意: Curmudgeon
  58. 一个“身体”可以保持99%的健康,但是一个癌细胞会导致许多损害,甚至发展成肿瘤。 尽管它意识到破坏以它为食的尸体也破坏了自己,但那一头并没有阻止它对繁殖的贪婪。 大多数美国公民都清楚肿瘤所在的位置及其进展。
    对于感兴趣的人,我做了一段简短的视频,阐述了以上论点,其中涉及美国可能在三个地区患上恶性肿瘤的可能性。这三个地区是战争机器,华尔街,教育

    • 谢谢: CelestiaQuesta
  59. 22pp22 说:
    @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    不,许多死于COVID的人只有几周而不是几年的生命。 一年前死于COVID的许多人如果从未感染过病毒,那么今天可能还活着。 真正糟糕的流感季节将导致死亡率激增。 我超重。 这使我更有可能早逝。 在大多数情况下,我的体重都在控制之中,但最近我跌倒了。 这是我的错。

    肥胖使您容易感染COVID。 肥胖是一种选择。

    • 回复: @WJ
    , @Curmudgeon
  60. Another great analysis by Unz. The “truth” is dead as far as the U.S. establishment media has any relationship with it. For these “reporters”, the truth is that which is written in the approved by the elite playbook, not any real world facts. The fact checkers are shills in this media. For example, there isn’t a single story about either Trump or those tens of millions of Americans that is reported by this establishment media that can be taken at face value. Thus, all that is left are headlines like, “such and such a place– some town or city, or suburb in the U.S. has been taken over by right wing “extremists.” And presumably for this toxic establishment media, there are no places that have been “taken over” by left wing “extremists”, since according to this media’s silence in the face of riots, murders, lootings and arson against American citizens, there are no left wing “extremists”. So this is the “place” we are now at in the U.S.

  61. Peter Daszak, an American closely associated with the Wuhan lab

    Daszak is British:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Daszak

    • 回复: @Lucy Lipinska
    , @Brás Cubas
  62. Biff 说:

    Did a search on whether the vaccine is trust worthy and came up with this:

    The technologies used to develop the COVID-19 vaccines have been years in development to prepare for outbreaks of infectious viruses. The manufacturing processes were ready very early in the pandemic.

    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe

    Kind of sounds like they were planning ahead for Covid-19.

    • 同意: GMC, Tor597
    • 回复: @GMC
  63. brabantian 说:
    @Gizmo880

    注意 香港民主抗议的时间表,2019年2020月– XNUMX年XNUMX月

    被示威的人在90天之内“死于武汉街头”,针对北京的“亲民主”运动就结束了。

    另外,对于西方寡头来说,“大复位”和特朗普的破坏行动正在进行中……而现在,这就是déjàvu

    • 同意: aspnaz, Theophrastus
  64. Avalanche 说:

    “无视美国生物战袭击的第三种可能性。”

    但是,您完全忽略了“相等”? 可能发生中国生物战的第四种可能性?

    中国为什么要关闭所有国内运输业务,却将大量航班从武汉直飞意大利,然后又遭受了最惨重的损失呢?
    那“在地球上任何地方都没有发生过的中国人在街上崩溃的视频”呢?
    中国为什么会为“蝙蝠汤”和其他此类误导而撒谎?

    也许您有更多信息可能指向 *反对* 美国-但要完全离开这个正在积极与蝙蝠基因和生物战剂“交往”的国家吗?

    使您变得“ hmmmmm”的事物。

    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Curmudgeon
  65. @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    I think the point he is arguing is that the cause of death was often NOT Covid 19 but other factors in many of these cases. If one suffers from late stage diabetes as you said and yet catches Covid and dies later, is Covid responsible? There’s often no proof that it is. Hospitals it is known, receive huge amounts of money for deaths listed as Covid 19, this is another complicating factor on the veracity of believing what the patient died from,etc. I think these are the kind of cases the poster was arguing about and why the numbers are possibly not completely accurate. No one, I hope, would argue that Covid 19 is not a serious virus that should be the cause of proper caution, especially by people who have co-morbidity factors, such as being obese, are over the age of 70 or so and so on.,

    • 谢谢: stevennonemaker88
    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
  66. Trump falling for #covidhoax was one one of his worst blunders. Per your #3, it’s certainly suspicious how quickly The Enemy mobilized, doubly so with orders to isolate when it’s been known for 100 years sunlight and fresh air kill viruses.

    Secession on any scale is hopefully in the cards. There is no redemption for blue idiots. Raise the door of the Ark, it’s been raining for years.

    • 回复: @Stonehands
    , @HbutnotG
  67. Publius 2 说:

    Lol — nice try. Nobody has died. Not one person has been killed by “the virus.” Some very old and unhealthy people have died WITH a coronavirus in them. “The virus” was not the proximate cause of their death, to a legal standard of causation.

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    Those people would have died from the common cold, pneumonia, or the flu anyway.

    很明显。

    The plandemic was literally a hoax to punish white people for electing Trump in 2016, even though he was the most Jewish president ever and did nothing close to what the dumb goyim elected him to do. Obviously.

    It was yet another American secular Jewish attack on white people. Why is it supposedly all over the world? Because the same “interests” control the global media in Europe too and white people everywhere, from Brazil to Poland, have been trying to fight back.

    The neurotic communists are still making my 4 year old wear a suffocating mask to attend preschool, so I take this attack personally.

    Communists are incapable of learning and they are unable to perceive how they are perceived.

    • 同意: aspnaz, acementhead
    • 回复: @Biff
  68. This is CCP/DNC blowback from Trump’s tariff war.

    We are being collectively punished.

    Our population decimated.

    Thus beatings will stop when morale improves.

  69. GeeBee 说:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    说得好。 仍然有太多人(而不仅仅是美国人)接受精心宣布的美国是一个良性实体的想法,决心维护全世界的“自由与民主”。 一方面,那些孪生谎言构成了一个暴君的主要宣传武器,另一方面,关于美国的真相正是您所描述的。

    • 同意: GomezAdddams
  70. Hyper Bole 说:
    @greencrow

    突然有必要将世界上的每个人“接种疫苗”作为“后果”。 对于我们中的许多人而言,关于这个主题的一两个段落并不是没有话题。
    谢谢您的辛勤工作,Greencrow。

  71. some_loon 说:
    @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    While I agree eith your broader point about co-morbidities, you are overstating the case.

    First, you seem to assume as true the very point in contention: that deaths attributed as Covid are not mis-attributed.

    [更多]

    A person tests positive and dies of a heart attack. Did he die of Covid-19?
    Maybe. It is known to have cardiac effects. But a non-trivial number of false positives occur with the PCR, and that includes people with co-morbidities. And, absent further investigation, we do not know about a particular case, but are asked to take the certifying physician’s word for it, that but for the Covid, the patient would have lived.

    Given the credible reports of financial incentives for hospitals to diagnose Covid-19, and of hospitals pressuring doctors to go along with that, I am led to believe that we cannot take these numbers as anything but overstated. Especially given all the other nonsense around the establishment narrative and response.

    Which leads us to you seeming to accept the UW study’s conclusions that deaths in the USA due to Covid-19 have actually been understated. I ask you, do you have a real reason to believe that?

  72. aspnaz 说:

    如果您认为Covid不仅仅是重塑流行性感冒,那您就是白痴。 我可以解释为什么,但我们几乎18个月这个骗局,如果你还没有制定自己出来到现在,你简直太气愤听逻辑。

    • 同意: Emslander, Alfred
    • 回复: @anon4321534534
  73. hillaire 说:

    I think this article can be summed up thus:

    One fine day in the middle of the night,

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    Two dead boys got up to fight,

    Back to back they faced each other,

    Drew their swords and shot each other,

    One was blind and the other couldn’t, see

    So they chose a dummy for a referee.

    A blind man went to see fair play,

    A dumb man went to shout “hooray!”

    A paralysed donkey passing by,

    Kicked the blind man in the eye,

    Knocked him through a nine inch wall,

    Into a dry ditch and drowned them all,

    A deaf policeman heard the noise,

    And came to arrest the two dead boys,

    If you don’t believe this story’s true,
    Ask the blind man he saw it too!

    I’m still waiting for a virus isolate and some honest stats…

    • 哈哈: some_loon
  74. I’m a simple man. What was the motive? It seems to me that the non deadly virus was released with a likewise manufactured fear as a catalyst. The “cure” is being mindlessly self administered and paid for by the victims. Gov 101.

  75. Zago 说:

    罗恩利用的研究材料中的一大漏洞是调查记者乔治韦伯(与惠特尼韦伯无关)。 他写了几本书并制作了有关该主题的视频(许多被禁止)。 他可以在.

    https://www.neighborhoodnewsstudio.com

  76. cranc 说:

    罗恩·恩茨(Ron Unz)对不自然起源的假设所做的贡献是值得的,这并不意味着他的美国对中国的生物武器攻击对中国的理论是合理的。

    在原本完全真实的表述中有选择性地遗漏的模式很容易误导我们,甚至是任何直截了当的谎言。

    从来没有说过一个更真实的词。 如果罗恩·恩茨(Ron Unz)能够解决Covid危机的各个方面,在他的评论部分中已经反复指出了数百次,但是他坚定地忽略了这些方面,因为它们不符合他的假设。
    这些关注中的11个(在此处列出:https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b)形成了一个庞大且不断发展的运动的论点,该运动反对对SarsCov2的``全球治理回应''。
    我们看到美元体系的加速贬值和向新的全球范式的转变,而就地缘政治而言,SC2的发布正在推动这一趋势。

  77. Covid是一个间谍。 它不存在; 我们刚刚度过了糟糕的流感季节。 它被美国Boomer的欺诈行为所收购,这是因为当经典摇滚电台从Bob Seger过渡到Nirvana时,他们不得不控制自己的死亡。

    现在,科维德的混蛋将继续戴着口罩,每年服用“疫苗助推器”,并永远生活在恐惧中……。

    • 同意: fred777
  78. Anastasia 说:

    问题在于,由于症状变化且测试不可靠,因此没人知道他们是否感染了病毒。 那么谁拥有它,谁没有呢? PCR检测仅发现遗传物质。 它没有发现病毒。如果一个人患有普通的冠状病毒感冒,则抗体测试将对冠状病毒呈阳性。

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    这种病有什么症状。 即使是在中国进行的首次41人临床研究中,您也可以清楚地了解到,该研究中的所有41位患者的症状都是不同的。 没有人有相同的症状。 如果每个人都有不同的症状,他们怎么可能说人们患有“神秘疾病”? 他们每天为研究中的41位患者中的每位患者提供PCR测试,持续两周。 一天对每个人都是积极的,而第二天对每个人都是消极的。 如果测试是可靠的测试,那怎么可能?

    他们告诉我们普通的流感和肺炎已经消失了吗? 这是人类历史上第一次发生这种情况吗? 那怎么可能呢? 我提交。 这不可能。

    最终要看的是2020年和2021年有多少人死亡。这些数字不会持续一段时间,但是如果这些年中的每年死亡人数与过去几年相同,(无论出于何种原因!!!) ),您知道自己没有病毒。 你有很多谎言。 坦白说,在这一点上,即使他们放下了数千本,我也很难相信他们。

    • 回复: @Vojkan
  79. GayDad69 说:

    福西自己不是监督或指导资金来获得武汉的功能研究吗?

    我认为,我们的精英阶层将与中国合作,从根本上遏制美国,以使他们互惠互利是更合理的选择。 太多的人从中国赚了太多钱,他们不希望中国走上高路。

    我认为叛逆的美国精英与敌对的外国华人之间没有区别。 他们都是敌人,尽管没有对方是无能为力的。 考虑到我们与前者的距离,他们是更容易摆脱权力的敌人,尽管总体上都不容易。

    如果我们想遏制中国对自己的威胁,我们要做的就是停止与他们进行贸易。

    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  80. Biff 说:
    @Publius 2

    Hmmm, while you consider the virus to be fake, and a construct of a one world government. I’m in Asia surrounded by billions of people who are still distrustful of other peoples governments in the same way have been distrustful for centuries, yet somehow through six degrees of separation they know through other family members that the virus is very real, and quite deadly to compromised family elders.

    Whom should I believe? Some unknown schmuck on the internet? Or most of the planet?

    • 回复: @Publius 2
  81. St-Germain 说:

    Many thanks, Ron Unz, for once again presenting what remains the most cogent explanation for the bizarre Covid-19 caper — ever since former insider Francis Boyle first authoritatively nailed it more than a year ago as a chimeric parasite clearly designed in a government biowarfare laboratory. After rigorous efforts to debunk or censor that unassailable conclusion, the masters of the narrative in government and media are only now resorting to back-filling articles, meaning they’ve recognize that their barrage of natural-origin propaganda is quickly losing traction. But this revision is only a limited hang-out.

    So much for the science. We are still left with the decisive political battle of pinning the blame on the bad guys of choice. Is it China or the USSA? Unlike Trump and Pompeo, you seem to be absolving China as an innocent bystander who astutely came up with the more effective response to the artificial scourge.

    I wonder whether it is that simple. Perhaps there are two warring factions within our own deep state: One being the militarist clique that sought to weaponize the term Wuhan virus to confront directly and even kenetically the grave challenge of a rising China to the empire’s geopolitical world hegemony; the other — the ascendant Fauci oligarchic technological/financial and internationalist clique — that seeks some mutual accommodation with China because it foresees China’s ultimate triumph with its superior political economy and intact society. Call that the China faction because China seems to be playing along smugly on the same team, starting with the cozine\$\$ between Wuhan lab and Fauci/WHO.

    You didn’t mention the strangeness of the USSA’s response to Corona, which speaks for the hidden motives behind it. The illegal biowarfare labs were not closed. But we wrecked our own Main Street economy, employment opportunities and Americal traditions — actions typically reserved to an attacking enemy in a real war. The political leadership has deliberately alienated half our own citizenry as “deplorables”, racists and potential “domestic terrorists”. They have also attacked the major social and cultural institutions, from the churches and voting to spectator sports, travel, leisure and free flow of information. And there are many more such self-inflicted crimes in the vaccine scam.

    Why would the leaders do that to themselves if they merely wanted to create a few viral speed bumps for rival China? Covid-19 was certainly the 手段, as you say. But it mainly provided the 机会 for major social engineering in the USSA. And maybe the overriding 动机 for these criminal shenanigans is not as clear cut as you suggest. The globalist progressive leadership now installed in the United States seems bent on imitating what it regards as the superior Chinese social and political model, which also serves their own globalist corporate interests. And imitation of China is the purest form of flattery.

    • 回复: @Jeffrey A Freeman
  82. Larry Holmes had a good jab.

    The Harris/Biden Administration does not.

  83. RoatanBill 说:
    @Stephen Paul Foster

    There’s also a step 0.

    0. Run a simulation on computers and get a bunch of “experts” together to plan a response.

  84. Skeptikal 说:

    Unz: “Readers may judge for themselves, but I believe that my articles have demonstrated that the evidence supporting that excluded hypothesis is considerably stronger than that favoring either of those other two possibilities, ”

    I think Unz is making a basic logical mistake in his article.
    I have not read the Baker or Lemoine pieces, but I read Wade’s with great concentration and interest.

    The principal subject of Wade’s article is the origin of the virus itself. The VIRUS.
    It is analogous to identifying a weapon used in a murder.
    Was it a rock, or a piece of concrete, or a hammer?
    Means. Opportunity. Motivation.
    Wade’s focus is means. Run Unz jumps right to motivation to explain the origin of the virus.
    Arguments from motivation are inherently weak because in the main they rest on suppositions, circumstantial evidence, etc.
    That does not nullify them at all. But they don’t help the forensic process because they tend to constituute massive opportunities for red herrings, arguments that go way off track into thickets of projections, etc.

    They are full of “would have’”s and “would not have”s—just wild guesses.

    In his article Wade strongly suggests, toward the end, that the buck for the creation of the SARS2 virus stops, actually, with Dr. Anthony Fauci. Wade most strongly puts Dr. Bat Woman in the “accused” box, but he also brings in Dr. Fauci as her enabler. resumably Bat Woman’s work was legal within China, even though the lab was not secure. But Fauci and Paszak actually broke *美国人* law by funding her research.

    Wade is an American and he is writing for an American audience, and it is with *美国人* crimes and responsibility that Americans must come to terms.

    Furthermore Wade is to endlessly applauded for, at the end of his article, calling out the blinkered mentality whereby anything Trump said was assumed to be nonsense and people automatically thought the opposite thing. This is a polite way of calling out Trump Derangement Syndrome. Someone has to do this so that the reckoning of the damage TDS has caused can also become part of the general reckoning.

    Wade works very carefully, step by step, to present scientific evidence for the probable origin and hence identity and characteristics of the murder weapon in clear language that readers can follow. BRAVO!! It is a bravura performance. Wade’s account does not exclude the possibility of intentional release of the virus, but how the virus got into the population is not, IMO, his primary focus.

    Ron Unz here jumps the gun.

    • 同意: St-Germain
    • 回复: @James Forrestal
  85. Anastasia 说:

    不是“高传染性,低致死性疾病会破坏经济”。

    正是采取的措施破坏了经济。

    政府应该忽略高度传染性,低致死率的疾病,例如感冒。

    罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)也许不记得在人类历史上从未有政府采取过这样的措施。

    • 同意: Kali
  86. Emslander 说:

    Unz’s obsessive focus upon his irrelevant “origins” theories is just part of the smoke and mirrors. It’s becoming clearer to every observant thinking human being that the normally healthy people of the universe have been played.

    There may have been a strain of SARS influenza, wholly expected by the epidemiologists a year earlier, that came upon the scene in September of 2019. It’s not been particularly dangerous, either by its infectiousness or its morbidity, but has been used by nearly every power-hungry entity of the governing rulers as a convenient reason for ignoring all the protections the citizens have historically enjoyed against overreach.

    SARS2COVID19 is just another hoax of the failing and flailing liberalism that appeared at the end of the eighteenth century to destroy good order.

  87. Anonymous[204]• 免责声明 说:

    This possibility is worth considering for sure. One thing that I can’t explain is if it was a false flag, why would China enact effective anti-transmission measures within China including shutting down travel beteeen provinces while at the same time refusing to ban its citizens from traveling internationally? Incompetence or malice? It seems more like malice to me.

    OTOH if China was the progenitor then if they were smart they would have sent it to somewhere besides Wuhan. If it did escape mistakenly from the lab but once out, could be taken advantage of (i.e. accidental early release), that is the only reason I can think of for their behavior. Maybe they made the best of a bad situation.

    Usually though you are right, USreal operates through false narratives of nefarious enemies striking first that are well propagandized. Gulf of Tokin, East Wind Rain, Suvurov’s thesis, etc. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

  88. Realist 说:
    @The Real World

    哇,我很难读到那本书。

    那你为什么呢

    • 回复: @The Real World
    , @Refl
  89. 尼古拉斯·韦德(Nicolas Wade)的作品也给我留下了深刻的印象。 我认为这破坏了自然起源的神话。 罗恩·恩茨(Ron Unz)的生物武器攻击理论比偶然的泄漏更有说服力。 但是Unz可能会考虑另一个版本:攻击的对象是全人类,而肇事者是梦of以求的《大复位》的达沃斯奇才。 是的,他们希望中国遭受第一打击,希望伊朗受到严重伤害,但这也许是次要因素,而最突出的是他们渴望以太多的民主,太多的不听话的方式结束我们拥有的世界,太多的人出国旅行,没有足够的警察控制。 视其为9/11。 第2版​​,对我们所有人的攻击。

  90. Avalanche 说:
    @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    ew。 逻辑多少? (没有猜到。)

    “如果我喝醉了然后撞到树上,那我没有死于因酒精中毒而死的致命事故吗?”

    如果您没有“酗酒”,那么您很可能不会碰上一棵树。 所以,是的,您去世了! 如果您没有进行呼吸暂停治疗,从而过度劳累,入睡并撞上一棵树,您会死于呼吸暂停的整体结果:最直接的原因是那棵树-但是撞到树的原因不是那棵树!

    [更多]

    “如果我患有糖尿病,摔倒和摔倒,我会死于糖尿病而不是因为撞到头而死吗?”

    如果您患有未经治疗的糖尿病,并从楼梯顶部滑入糖尿病昏迷并跌落……那么,是的; 你死于摔倒 *由*造成 您未治疗的糖尿病(即,您死于“死于”糖尿病,而不仅仅是死于“死于”糖尿病)。 跌倒是由您的糖尿病引起的; 请参阅:您“掉进糖尿病昏迷”然后从楼梯上掉下来的可能性很小。
    如果您没有未经治疗的糖尿病并且跌倒了,那么除了笨拙,视力不佳,没有扶手或有人将您推开之外,没有其他医学上的潜在死亡原因! 那些使你跌倒了; 而秋天导致您的死亡。

    “如果我患有COPD并中风,那么我死于COPD而不是中风?”

    再次,您将最接近的原因和根本原因混为一谈。 如果中风是由COPD造成的循环损伤引起的,则是,死因是由COPD引起的,这并不令人惊讶。 如果中风是由与COPD无关的脑动脉瘤引起的,那么出血会导致您死亡。 (不知道这是否可以测试。而且政府还是应将其归咎于COVID。{frown})

    如果您患有肥胖症,COPD或糖尿病,或者最常见的是高龄,那么给这些合并症加重“非常严重的流感”的负担,尽管有多种现存疾病,但仍然缺乏有效的治疗,这并不意味着您就死于“合并症”冠状病毒病。' 这意味着您已经在“死亡之门”上了-这种最新的严重流感只是为您打开了大门!

    您是否注意到,“ COVID死亡的平均年龄比所有死亡的平均年龄都高? 那些人死于老年, *和* 再加上“重感冒”,他们很可能死于“普通”感冒,或者也得了重感冒! 比平均死亡年龄更大更病!

    您是否注意到病情严重,年纪大,甚至已经在呼吸机上(造成许多早期死亡的原因!),只有一英尺的人已经通过那扇门,而医院被法院强制再次服用伊维菌素一剂和 *回家* -即使仍因其潜在的合并症和高龄而生病? 存在治疗方法,但是如果FDA承认,那么他们就不能为数十亿美元的遗传修饰剂(非Vax)提供“ EUA”(紧急使用授权)!

    您是否“不知道”政府/医学领域/大型制药公司对死亡的原因和死亡人数撒谎? 以及有效的治疗方法已经挽救了数十万人的生命!

  91. Darkwing 说:

    The “Beer” virus started at the University North Carolina, taken to a military Base in Maryland, taken to China, hoping to kill million, it got away and the rest is history. BTW, the “Beer” virus is nothing but a bad Flu.

  92. 辉煌的文章。
    MSM does not modify the truth anymore.
    MSM now lies outright.
    It is a new day.

    • 同意: Jeffrey A Freeman
  93. @Biff

    “Has/will Ron Unz trust(ed) the establishment and take the vaccine?”

    Now THAT is a very good question (and one I personally would love to know the answer to…… )

  94. @BlackFlag

    Again very funny why immediately they knew it was the Wuhan wet market and agent was pangolin. However, there were other events transpiring earlier in Spain – Italy – Iran- France which were not receiving the same press.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  95. “… strongly suspect that the coronavirus outbreak was indeed an American biowarfare attack against China, probably carried out by agents brought into that country under cover of the Military Games held at Wuhan in late October … ”

    I also came to that conclusion soon after the “pandemic” developed.

    Ref Trump’s ham-fisted trade-war, the CIA riots in HK for “democracy” (lol), the other plagues to mysteriously hit China at the same time, the amazing “virus” jump to Iran where it killed senior govt members … plus the added murderous insult of sanctions and the assassination of Gen. Soleimani while on a peace mission …

    Posting this probability on websites drew replies characterising me (and others having similar views) as “bat-eating Chinks” etc and opining that the best thing then to do was to bomb the Three Gorges Dam in all-out war on “Chinks” …

    Q. Why would anyone think that USA would do such a thing ?
    A. Because it is just what it would do and has done for the last approx 120 years on behalf of the Jewish-Freemason elite that owns it.

    Rogue elements within our large national security apparatus probably affiliated with the Deep State Neocons decided to inflict severe damage upon the huge Chinese economy using biowarfare.

    Well said, Ron Unz, except for this demur —

    They are not “rogue elements” nor some sort of shadowy “Deep State”.
    These are the actions of the US govt proper, accurately labelled as Zionist Occupied Govt (ZOG) aka ZUSA, which is entirely at the service of Israel. These actions are carried out, like many before them, for the zio war against the non-Jewish world.

    The USA is not really a govt/country but a Mad Dog, a zionist Criminal Enterprise.

    • 回复: @Krusty1234
  96. @murraycohen

    Donald Trump said “It is the China virus” and Donald is correct. Donald is nothing more than a con man posing as Leader of USA but in reality was President of Israel. Donald Trump is a Jewish shill doing Netanyahu’s bidding and Benjamin laughs how USA fell for the idea that Donald would drain the swamp. Trump is the biggest toad in the swamp –ramped up by Jews Kushner and Kushner’s criminal father who was excused by Trump. However, Trump is gone and Now Amtrak Joe is boss —–train arrives New Orleans before it leaves Chicago??

    • 回复: @Anastasia
  97. 值得一提的是,罗恩(Ron)错过了或选择不同意的是,这种传染性变种在大流行的发展中起了重要作用,因为它最初起源于美国,然后转移到了欧洲和中国。

    从所有媒体的关注中,人们对新变种的认可再次证明了它们对感染病例在印度和亚洲的复兴起了重要作用,很明显,当我说:

    “ Covid-19可能是因USAMRIID Fort Detrick堡长达一年的实验室泄漏而起源于美国,但由于其早期变种不像现在的新变种那样具有感染力,因此飞入了雷达,导致了整个美国的许多小型集群被误认为是季节性流感,并且从未扩大为全面流行,但仍然能够前往欧洲,印度和中国,并为其他国家播种。”

    “要确认Covid-19起源于德特里克堡,只需测试从附近2个高级护理院采集的样本,这些家庭在19年2019月从德特里克堡爆发了致命的大规模Covid-XNUMX。”

    拥有检测系统的中国是第一个在武汉发现疫情的人,但是说Covid-19起源于武汉而没有任何有力的证据是荒谬的(到目前为止根本没有任何证据)

    我们不妨说艾滋病起源于美国,因为它首先在美国被报道,然后才从这里疯狂传播,感染了世界。

    我们不妨说1918年大流行性流感起源于美国,因为它在堪萨斯州首次爆发,然后通过美国陆军在第二次世界大战期间感染了世界其他地区。

    我们不妨说一下,2009 H1N1北美猪流感起源于德克萨斯州和加利福尼亚州,因为CDC报告说,在美国和墨西哥同时爆发的暴发之后,这里首先出现了一些病例,然后又从美国传播到全世界。

    研究人员于2000年代初在美国各地发现了携带冠状病毒的马蹄蝙蝠。

    因此,我们的德里克堡(Fort Detrick)可能偶然或过失地释放了Covid-19,但它并没有摧毁中国,而是首先强奸了美国(特朗普最喜欢的短语),而现在却强奸了印度。

    • 回复: @Malla
    , @Malla
  98. Farquad 说:

    Excellent analysis refuting the false binary choice and illustrating the alternative that is so obvious thanks to its continual omission, but…….

    Why assume it is an AMERICAN bioweapon? There are of course other possibilities that are also obvious by their omission.

  99. neprof 说:
    @Theophrastus

    Another curious event that happened in May of 2019 is when the US Congress displayed bipartisan agreement on an issue. The US House passed a the SECURE act by a vote of 417-3, yes..417-3. Anytime Congress passes a bill with such a bipartisan majority, it’s cause for notice (perhaps concern). Esp. during the political divide that 2019 presented. The Senate later approved (overwhelming) the same bill in December and President Trump signed the bill into law the next day on Dec. 20th 2019.

    The bill requires inherited IRAs to be distributed completely within ten years of inheritance. A tax windfall for the government esp. if a large number of elderly were to pass away, suddenly.

    I think the only flaw in the COVID plan was that the virus petered out too soon. I t was suppose to be on the scale of 1918, but viruses are hard to predict.

  100. WJ 说:
    @22pp22

    我怀疑南希肥胖,因此对这种疾病感到恐惧。 我遇到了很多这样的老年人。 他们看着被电晕杀死的大量人,却没有考虑到其中许多人会在一年之内死亡。

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  101. @Tor597

    Coronavirus specifically was seen as a threat years before it emerged

    中东呼吸综合征(MERS) which first was detected in 2012 made it very clear SARS was not going to be a one-off, and MERS has continued to be a threat due to it having a camel reservoir. That’s a major reason Moderna for example was able to develop its vaccine candidate literally over a weekend after the first genetic sequences from the PRC were published, a great deal of research had been done on making safe SARS coronavirus vaccines (which curiously the strong women of Oxford didn’t take advantage of).

    If our host’s theory is correct, a SARS type coronavirus would be one of the best pathogens to release, especially since it was known the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was doing gain of function research. There’s no way the institute can prove its innocence, especially in the context of how the CCP handles such disasters. For example, the publication of the very first sequence was not authorized and the lab that did it was immediately closed down for “rectification.” Along the same lines, for many months, and very possibly to this day the PRC/CCP did not share cultures of the virus; over time, we discovered everything they claimed in the early days and weeks of the pandemic was a lie.

    We could go further and suspect that the CCP suspected or believed the WIV was the source, which would vastly help the scheme posited by our host, they are acting guilty whether or not they actually are.

  102. 无论如何,我真的希望在所有限制放松后,像B1167 Indian变种这样的较新变种不会开始出现在国内。 看起来真的很传染,即使您已经完全接种疫苗,也需要一点接触,只要轻轻一碰,您就可以得到它。 也许它不会对您造成太大影响,但您仍然会得到它,更糟糕的是,您可能会将它传递给其他人。

    我有一些印度朋友无法回到印度,他们真的担心他们的父母和家人在那里。

    他们真的对那里的事情进行了错误处理,就像特朗普对家里的事情进行了错误处理一样。 不同之处在于,美国现在得到了更好的管理(仅针对病毒),并且许多美国人已经接种了疫苗。

    印度情况并非如此。

  103. Nancy O’Brien Simpson @ 52

    You are correct, Nancy. The essential issue is did the instrumentality “caused or contributed to” the event. COVID-19 does not have to be the sole proximate cause. There can be many causes to an event. If any of them “caused or contributed to” the event that is all that is necessary.

  104. Regardless of its origins, you still have a 99.899% chance of surviving it, if you get it at all. There are probably butterflies that are more dangerous than Covid.

    Now take off that face diaper and enjoy the warm spring sunshine on your face!

    • 回复: @Ultrafart the Brave
  105. Thomasina 说:
    @The Man Who Comes Around

    “Was this a tag-team effort by external and internal forces to eliminate a common foe?”

    That’s what I believe happened, a third option: both China AND the U.S. were in it together.

  106. GMC 说:
    @Biff

    They also planned ahead – to make sure the man who developed the PCR test { Kari Mullins} was dead 4 months prior to the Wuhan outbreak. Years earlier his PCR test and research was sold to Hofman/Roche of Switzerland for 300 million bucks. I recently saw an article that stated that the test has made over 1 billion bucks so far . Phyzer too, has made 1 billion dollars so far from their un- insured poison.
    Yep, this virus just happen to start in Wuhan Wet Market , with two Chinamen drinkin infected bat soup – and it spread around the entire world within 4 mos. lol lol lol The Elitists 10 – Joe Blow – 0

  107. Marckus 说:

    What I know for sure about the virus:

    >> is that the kill rate is around 0.17% and that is counting people who were going to die anyway because they had an underlying deadly sickness.
    >>every University grad with a sniffle or drippy dick is an expert.
    >>that in the past year the “experts” have come up with new information, studies, conclusions and recommendations in time for the daily news for 365 days straight.

    Fauci especially, and no-one knew this nonentity before all the drama, probably comes up with a new daily way to fuck with the public as he is washing his dick in the morning. It is amusing that people who have been vaccinated still wear a mask and are frightened of the virus even with the other person also vaccinated and or also wearing a mask and six feet away. Common sense and logic have become casualties in this day and age and if Fauci claims shoving a triple mask up your arse a form of prevention the ignorant masses would comply.

    Where stupidity is prevalent bullshit rules !

    • 回复: @Publius 2
  108. skrik 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    My money is on a natural origin, in India, around 2010. Place your bets

    Thanks, Godfree; my ‘evidence-based conclusion’ is lab-made, deliberate release, *不是* by China.

    IMHO [me = ‘amateur’ virologist only]; SARS-CoV-2 is a chimera plus added PRRA [= polybasic cleavage site] insert, to see why/how I came to this conclusion, best start with @j2 here and then following the varying tracks.

    I will repeat parts of ‘my best’ from that thread:

    [更多]

    现在,要序列; 这是最接近的已知“亲戚” SARS-CoV-2和RaTG13的峰值的multalin比较。 蓝色表示差异,黑色表示PRRA插入:

    这是SARS-CoV-2和MP789峰值的比较:

    Your ref [6], Fig. 2 labels the receptor binding domain [= RBD] as positions 451 to 521 in the spike, and the multalin comparison does show a high agreement between SARS-CoV-2 and MP789 in this region, where the agreement between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 in the same region is poor & so QED; MP789 could well have contributed its RBD to the putative chimera. … You said you think a possible MRCA could be dated to about 2002 [your 病毒的诞生], IF so THEN it means that there must have been a continuous chain of infection in some animal, presumably bat or pangolin from ~2002 to late 2019. Again, just how likely is that? Also, where did the bat and pangolin meet and afterwards reside? One last thing; IIRC, the Chinese assert that neither bats nor pangolins were sold in any wet market; IMHO the wet market slur is a furphy.

    Back to ‘now,’ MP789 is said to have been collected from a pangolin, and RaTG13 *reputedly* from a bat, in locations about 1000km apart. WIV may well have played some ‘contributory’ role. The likelihood of a ‘natural-match and recombination’ falls precipitously, and an ‘informal consensus’ between me and @j2 says that the PRRA was inserted ‘by hand’ [but IMHO not by WIV.] rgds

    • 谢谢: Theophrastus
  109. Anonymous[352]• 免责声明 说:

    As an investigator who’s worked in the national security realm there are two very disturbing facts in the SARS-CoV-2 timeline.

    First is the arrest of Harvard chemistry chair Charles Lieber in January 2020. Lieber was a consultant who helped set up a research lab at Wuhan University of Technology. Given the nature of the arrest charge (18 U.S. Code § 1001) Lieber was clearly already a target well before January 2020. The statements in the U.S. DOJ press release indicates that Lieber’s misstatement(s) and/or omission(s) were to an investigator during a security clearance investigation (DOJ/DARPA) 10 years prior. So, we’re not just talking about the FBI searching an old archival copy of Lieber’s Standard Form 86 security clearance application, but the actual reports of the investigator being retrieved from the OPM vaults in Boyers, PA, and combed through for discrepancies. My guess is the investigation into Lieber started before or around the same time that the first patient was admitted to a Wuhan hospital with a viral respiratory infection. A disturbing fact.

    The second is the widely reported news item that in November 2019 U.S. intelligence warned Israel and NATO about a new respiratory virus in Wuhan. This was weeks before the first patient was admitted to the hospital with a severe acute respiratory virus.

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/1587059866-report-us-warned-israel-about-covid-19-in-november

    US warned Israel about COVID-19 in November

    i24新闻
    April 16, 2020

    据报道,美国政府就XNUMX月中旬左右在中国造成的冠状病毒威胁向以色列发出了预警。

    根据以色列广播公司第12频道的报道,美国情报机构意识到COVID-19殴打中国湖北省中心城市武汉时所构成的危险。

    根据第12频道的报道,这些信息随后被移交给了白宫,“白宫对此并不感兴趣”。

    This is seriously problematic when the first person hospitalized, and the virus first came onto the radar, was in December 2019.

    From The Lancet (March 13, 2020):

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30607-3/fulltext

    Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a disease caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), first detected in China in December, 2019. In January, 2020, state, local, and federal public health agencies investigated the first case of COVID-19 in Illinois, USA.

    This was from the earliest reporting on the outbreak. (Nb: in this case contemporaneous reports are going to be the most accurate when you have a subsequent doctoring of facts to fit a Narrative).

  110. Big Daddy 说:

    Lime disease anyone? US Biolab on Plum Island off the Connecticut coast in the Long Island Sound let it escape. First infected folks are in southern Connecticut. Now ticks are infected all over North America inflicting 22,000 a year who take a walk in the woods. No cure possible. USA closes the lab.

    We did Covid.

    • 同意: Alfred
  111. We’re pretty dependent on the Chinese for our daily existence. So if this were the deep state trying to sabotage an economy with a virus, wouldn’t it be the American one? Plus it has hit the every corner of the world. And what is with India now? Personally I think we are thinking too small with nation states. It is a transnational-oligarchical powered world, and those folks got a lot richer with the very global Covid19.

    Having said all that, the bug’s roots are increasingly looking like they are American and tax payer funded. When did we become evil?

  112. Smith 说:

    Considering it’s now ASEAN and South Asia (all near China) who got hit the hardest and the “West” is slowly recovering, I’m not so sure China is behind it anymore.

    The longer this goes on, the side with the vaccines win.

  113. @The Soft Parade

    实际上,美国对其本国人口进行了催眠诱导,并将其归咎于中国竞争对手。 存在并占所有僵尸的僵尸。

    精彩的解释和机智的结局。

    尽管我不认为这是“美国”催眠自己的人口。 相反,它是(仍在继续)使用美国手段催眠世界人口的邪恶力量。

  114. supertjx 说:

    Ron’s arguments are persuasive. But if this was really the work of rogue elements of the US deep state, I’m surprised the Chinese have not made a concerted attempt to point the fingers back at the US. I have also not noted any serious discussion of this theory on Chinese political websites like guancha.

    这可能是什么原因?

    • 回复: @Kevin Barrett
    , @Billb
  115. anonymous[684]• 免责声明 说:

    A few minor corrigenda to a work of historic importance.

    (1) It’s not a hypothesis, it’s a bill of indictment. We ought to incorporate the legal framework that would formalize this for Khabarovsk II, because, as an influential DCI once said, this will not stand. If the criminal enterprise that controls us has committed this manifest crime of aggression with the most indiscrimate and deadly weapon of mass destruction ever used, it must be destroyed. It is hostis humani generis, an enemy of all mankind, including us in America, the original victims.

    https://crimeofaggression.info/role-of-the-icc/definition-of-the-crime-of-aggression/

    (2) They’re not rogue elements. Universal jurisdiction crime like this banned biological weapon is CIA’s raison d’etre. They’re not out of control, they’re in control. As with CIA’s apical coup against JFK, the crucial probative evidence is not technical but institutional. The institutional facts show CIA’s effective control, from planning through execution, which makes this the highest crime.

    (3) As with CIA’s preliminary and preparatory AMERITHRAX/ BIOTHRAX attack, foreknowledge is a crucial element of the crime. CIA’s AMERITHRAX release of banned biological weapons from secure US government storage was prepared for by specific concerted media warnings of anthrax release (MacQueen, The 2001 Anthrax Deception.) CIA’s release of SARS-COV-2 was similarly preceded by specific DIA warnings. The warnings constitute inchoate crimes: illegal war propaganda or duplicitous misattribution of a sneak attack. In both cases, vaccine development and profiteering was an integral part of the attack.

    (4) We need to start identifying individual criminals: vaccine supplier Emergent and officials and cutouts, inter alia Nancy Messonier (sister of Rod Rosenstein, leader of CDC’s abortive test regime and fraudulent vaccine monitoring;) Ralph Baric; and Peter Daszak; DCI Gina Haspel.

  116. @Achmed E. Newman

    I raise you a 2(c) possibility:

    The virus came from the WIV but the “escape” was orchestrated by US intelligence.

    It’s possible that the Chinese were developing something with a plan to release it in the USA (perhaps on a timeline to cause chaos during the election), but US intelligence got wind of it.

    However, with the exception of the possible veracity of the recent Australian revelation of CCP PLA plans to destroy America’s healthcare system with a Coronavirus in 2015, it is wild speculation.

    In fact, I am not convinced by Unz’s story.
    (a) It relies on the same “anonymously-sourced” style of reporting in the MSM that we have seen to have been BS for the last 4 years. I don’t know how Unz can read Greenwald and then build a whole counternarrative of events based on sketchy MSM journalism.

    (b) Even if the reports about DIA are true, I think it is very possible that US intelligence could have had knowledge of the pandemic before the Chinese. If I were a scientist at WIV and there were signs of a breach, I would probably more scared of the CCP than of a spreading event. Maybe the scientists tried hard to keep Chinese officials ignorant in hopes the pandemic could be blamed on a natural origin but didn’t know how to keep the DIA ignorant because they were infiltrated.

    (c) I don’t agree that there was a large organized attack on WIV immediately when the pandemic broke out. I saw some Unz-style conspiratorial YouTube videos, but there weren’t many, and they didn’t appear immediately.

    (d) Unz’s theory relies heavily on the Iranian outbreak but Unz does not report on his investigations of connections between Iranian officials and China. Were there any? Did Unz bother to try to find out? As he says, narratives can be manipulated by failing to tell the whole truth.

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @skrik
  117. Vojkan 说:
    @Anastasia

    毫无疑问,2020年和2021年的死亡人数将超过往年。 不是因为他们有covid,而是因为他们被拒绝接受治疗,而是以covid为借口。

  118. Anastasia 说:

    武汉奥运会可能是与中国一起筹划这件事的封面

  119. Anastasia 说:
    @GomezAdddams

    谁不在华盛顿。 给某人命名

    • 回复: @GomezAdddams
  120. Anonymous[144]• 免责声明 说:
    @Avalanche

    Makes you think, doesn’t it? Everyone is ignoring the possibility that Covid is a French Biowarfare attack to isolate and punish the British for Brexit. Hmmmm. Could there be people so low and anti-human that they are willing to get paid to spread lies?

  121. michael888 说:

    Wade’s article is really good for laymen. One of his facts that I had not appreciated was that there was no serological (antibodies) to SARS-COV2 in the Wuhan population until late in 2019; that pretty much debunks the natural origin since there would surely be serological evidence if Covid-19 had slowly mutated into the “killer” virus (now IFR estimated at 0.2%, double the estimate for flu). SARS-Cov2 popped out fully formed (and not from frozen salmon from the fjords of Norway, as Peter Daszak, China and the WHO would have us believe.)
    (Although more technical, nerdhaspower.weebly.com/ratg13-is-fake.html shows that the Bat Lady’s RaTG13 “closely related virus to SARS-COV2” is likely just a fraudulent sequence entered into her database. This site remains largely anonymous, but is populated by grad student and postdocs in virology whose careers would be endangered if outed).
    Not sure the lab derived virus ‘hypothesis’, although the most likely explanation for Covid-19 origin, will ever be accepted as FACT. Arrayed against it, Fauci (who funded the work), Daszak (the cutout to get taxpayer money to China), Zhengli Shi and the host of collaborator virologists for gain-of-function experiments, whose careers would instantaneously end if any broke this White Coat Wall of Silence, and the media who dismiss it since linked to Trump, all have their credibility tied up against the virus being from a lab. Unless someone squeals with evidence, and is believed, the virology club will keep this from ever exploding.
    Sadly, I agree with Ron Unz that Covid-19 probably originated intentionally in an American lab (Fort Ditrick?), but if true, that fact will be zealously protected from the Public. The view of Intelligence, as with the military, is that if we have weapons, we should use them. There were a number of Americans in nursing homes in Northern Virginia who died of a weird pneumonia (direct or bacterial secondary to a virus) in summer and early Fall of 2019, issues with vaping (never explained), and sporadic cases of serious non-flu test pneumonia on the West Coast and in several countries before January 2020. Since Covid-19 is, like Alzheimer’s, a disease of the elderly– most deaths globally are in those over age 80; 95% of Europe’s deaths were over age 60 (last I checked)– the vast majority of people would be asymptomatic, have a “cold” or at worst, “the flu”. There may be lots of ‘experiments’ uncovered before the virus took off in Wuhan (wonder if a second “hit” was required?)
    Nor is it likely that Intelligence has “withdrawn from the battlefield”. While sudden variants are possible anywhere infected, I remember the British genomics group diligently following the appearance of mutations by time and geography. The group went silent when the UK (Kent) variant B.1.1.7 appeared with 23 mutations, 17 of which changed proteins. There were no precursors which would give a pedigree from where this variant accrued mutations. Finally authorities decided it arose in someone with poor immunity, or in a small isolated community, over time. A lab would be even more consistent. There are other recent variants popping up out of nowhere with several mutations all at once.
    Geert vandem Bossche, a vaccinologist virologist who has been dismissed by the media, has a provocative idea. He notes it is extremely dangerous to do widespread vaccinations DURING a pandemic. He says there will likely arise variants from selective pressure of vaccines (most made only to the S protein of SARS-Cov2) which not only will elude vaccine-produced antibodies in the vaccinated, but possibly the virus morbidity will be ENHANCED by the vaccine-produced antibodies binding to and protecting the virus. If he is correct, widespread vaccination may turn Covid-19 from an old folk’s disease into a plague on anyone whose immunity is from the S protein only vaccines, unlike natural immunity. We should know if this speculation is warranted within a year or two.

    • 谢谢: Polemos
    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  122. @Biff

    “the vaccine?”

    I’ve been following the work of independent researcher/journalist George Webb on the COVID story. His theory — NATO members were purposefully infected with the disease and carried it into the military games in Wuhan — accords with Ron’s analysis. Webb follows up with the mRNA vaccines to supplement his work on the pandemic. I would be interested to read Ron’s thoughts on the vaccine and its connection to the bio-weapon attack.

    • 同意: Biff
  123. anonymous[139]• 免责声明 说:

    Being a non-expert I find Nicholas Wade’s presentation quite compelling and how he lays out the probability of it having been an engineered virus. The early onset of it in Iran is hard to explain though except by leaning toward Mr Unz’s interpretation. One question I have is why would they use the military games as a cover since the presence of so many foreigners and the virus outbreak at the same time would create the impression of a connection in the minds of the Chinese. Wouldn’t they just have a few operatives carry out the operation at a time where no linkage would be suggested? The previous epidemics are also suspicious and seem to suggest a pattern. The US has used biowarfare before, crudely in the Korean war and against the Cuban pig population. It’s not off limits apparently. Perhaps we’re in for a future of surreptitious biowarfare attacks.
    With this one can see how America is the biggest propaganda machine in history. Inquiries are muzzled, ridiculed and dismissed, censorship is instituted, everything is spin and all media gives the preferred version. The article notes how people in various fields are blackmailed and arm-twisted into going along with the program at risk of their livelihoods. The US has perfected a form of soft totalitarianism. Thanks to Mr Unz for providing us with this lively forum.

  124. Anon62 说:

    I thank Mr. Unz for continuing to advance understanding in what is a far from settled area of science. I wish to add three observations:

    There is a general conflation of issues with respect to COVID-19. The first identifies a conflict between natural and lab origins for COVID but then fails to address the question “Whose laboratory?” which is the key question Mr. Unz raises.

    The evidence for a laboratory other than that in China is found in the following: 1) Early reporting showed that the US contained a variety of haplotypes of COVID-19 while China and Europe demonstrated a single haplotype. This suggests the virus, or its immediate precursor genotype was circulating within the United States well before it circulated around the world; 2) A number of European states have found evidence of COVID virus in samples of their sewage water samples. As port of the water quality assurance process regular samples of both source water samples and treated water samples are taken. Investigation of these samples shows evidence of COVID in the months preceding the December / January identification of the virus in China. The virus is shed in human fecal matter and this is the source of the COVID identified in the treatment plant samples. This is major evidence but for whatever reason these studies do not appear to be widely reported; 3) a failure on the part of US authorities to conduct follow up studies on a strange pneumonia circulating in the US is the summer of 2019; 4) The fact that the first knowledge of COVID in the US was classified at the secret level. This impeded and greatly slowed the US public health response. 5) The fact that US public health authorities refused to validate a PCR test for COVID at the time of COVIDs first emergence in the Seattle area. This may have been due to bureaucratic ineptitude or it may have been an attempt to suppress scientific understanding of the virus and avoid an inconvenient truth i.e. evidence of multiple haplotypes in the US and singular haplotypes elsewhere.

    All of the above issues appeared in the context of the early reporting of COVID yet none seem to have been given further examination. One gets the impression there is a deliberate attempt to suppress evidence of fruitful lines of scientific inquiry. This is not an attempt to advance a conspiracy theory. Given the worldwide economic impact of COVID, and the potential harm to the global public, it is however extremely curious that these are not aspects of any scientific inquiry into the origins of the viral outbreak.

    A second concern is the issue with of lethality. For reasons not understood it appears that certain nations, or populations, vary in their response to the virus. Older individuals, persons with pre-existing conditions, and heavy smokers, or those resident in regions of severe air pollution (northern Italy) appear to experience higher mortality than other regions. A significant proportion of persons appear to contract COVID but do not suffer any ill effects. For whatever reason there appears to be no attempt to determine the reason for this significant variance. There does appear to be a global emphasis on vaccination therapy which emphasis generates great profits for certain firms.

    A recent study demonstrates, but does not conclusively prove, that Vitamin D deficiency is a factor in the lethal outcomes associated with COVID-19.
    (见 https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/12/3642/htm )

    There is other circumstantial evidence in support of this thesis.

    In the US there are states such as MN and NY which have enacted a severe lockdown to control COVID. Such restrictions may impair citizens obtaining the sunlight exposure which is the predominant source of Vitamin D in humans.

    Other states such as TX and FL imposed no such restrictions yet their population demonstrates much lower rates of COVID than the lockdown states.

    Both TX and FL also have greater likelihood of year round sun compared to MN and NY. The fact of no restrictions on activity coupled with greater access to sunlight, the primary source of Vitamin D, suggests support for the thesis advanced in the cited paper.

    A second item of circumstantial evidence is found in the pattern of COVID outbreaks. In Canada we had an initial outbreak in Winter 2019/ Spring 2020. This abated during the summer months and it looked like we had emerged from the worst of it by the fall of 2020. In November, with the onset of bad weather, the rate of COVID infection in Canada exhibited a significant winter upsurge. This has continued until a recent peak but presently shows signs of tapering off. We have recently had the first bursts of decent weather and sun exposure.

    I believe it likely the Canadian rate of COVID infection will drop throughout the summer period and then in the late fall we will see another uptick and a further government imposed set of restrictions as the onset of bad weather deprives citizens of the Vitamin D needed to minimize / combat COVID infection.

    All of the above is irrelevant to our government; what is critically important is that the leader has great hair and obvious intelligence in his selection of socks.

  125. JVT 说: • 您的网站
    @The Real World

    不知道Ron Unz是否知道900,000万例死亡研究是由比尔和梅琳达·盖茨基金会(Bill&Melinda Gates Foundation)资助的。

    • 谢谢: Alden
    • 哈哈: Trinity
    • 回复: @Trinity
  126. lysias 说:

    A few days ago, I watched the 2011 Hollywood movie “Contagion,” about a pandemic of a respiratory viral disease that kills millions of people. It urges many of the lines of thought that the powers that be now want people to believe. The disease originated from contacts between bats and pigs in South China and spreads to Hong Kong and from there to the rest of the world. The heroes who save humanity are the CDC, the WHO, and medical researchers, and their instrument of salvation is a vaccine. There’s even a villain who preaches a doctrine of skepticism through videos but whose real motive is to make money through selling a quack cure. For that, he ends up being arrested for securities fraud!

    I’m reminded of the awful 2001 “Pearl Harbor” movie that opened a few months before 9/11, only that movie was much closer in time to the event for which the powers that be wanted to prepare us than “Contagion” was. “Contagion” opened in September 2011, and, being the big Hollywood movie with many stars that it was, it must have been at least many months in preparation. But even back then, the powers that be apparently already had plans for the current pandemic in mind.

  127. nsa 说:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “….it’s not the virus that wrecked our entire economic life”
    Are you frigging blind, as well as brain washed by your TV box? THE BOOM IS ON! House prices around here have easily doubled in the last three years and are now being bid up \$100k over the asking price. Raw hay land has exploded to \$50k an acre. Big box store parking lots are crammed full. Both new and used car and truck sales are through the roof. Car dealers can’t get enough inventory and refuse to bargain. UPS and FedEx trucks are buzzing around everywhere delivering Amazon crap. The local feed store got in a shipment of \$4000 Bad Boy zero turn mowers and all 50 were sold in a week. The local Chase Bank manager related how they gave out thousands of Care and PPT loans with his guess at the fraud rate being at least 90%. Help Wanted signs are everywhere. The tourist traffic is horrendous…..just a non-stop shitstream of shiny new cars toting kayaks and bicycles and surfboards, huge Winnebago and Pace Arrow motor homes, giant \$50k F250s pulling \$50k fishing boats….all bumper to bumper out on 101. This is an inflationary boom the likes of which no one has ever seen before. Take your head out of your ass and look around.

    • 回复: @Publius 2
    , @Achmed E. Newman
  128. @Chrisnonymous

    Indeed, that’s a possibility too, Chris, and I don’t seen how there is any more evidence for Mr. Unz’s theory than there is for yours (at least the one you brought up, 2(c)).

    To me though, knowing China well enough, the “Quality is not Job 1” theory is the most likely to be the reality.

    Anyway, very good comment. Thanks.

  129. Trinity 说:

    (((Covid-19))) is a work. I was of the opinion that it was a Zio-Sino operation, now, IMO, it is just another experiment by the usual suspects. A select few billionaires are getting filthy rich off this horseshit.

    The average healthy White American has a far greater chance of dying in automobile accident, falling in the bathtub, being attacked by “teens” and “urban yutes” than falling prey to this “deadly virus.”

    They can take their vaccine and shove it where the sun don’t shine and I put away my mask weeks ago. Stop living in the clown world, people. This is ridiculous. Even if the virus is out there, people live and die, you start dying the minute you are born. LIVE.

    • 同意: Adam Smith
  130. Spect3r 说:
    @ThereisaGod

    What about the countries without 5G like Iran?

  131. Trinity 说:
    @JVT

    That prick is buying acres of farmland in several states. I read he gobbled up over 4,000 acres in JawJuh alone.

    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  132. @GayDad69

    福西自己不是监督或指导资金来获得武汉的功能研究吗?

    Yes, he’s a proponent of this true Mad Scientist experimentation. His institute of the NIH first funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) to collect exotic bat viruses for 4-5 years, then the most recent grant was to do gain of function research. Which the infamous Bat Woman had previously collaborated on before a US funding moratorium shut it down. That moratorium was eventually lifted, but there was supposed to be a safeguard of required review, and the latest claim about Saint Fauci is that this grant was not presented to and cleared by the board for it.

    A large fraction of the biology/biomedicine community is furiously fighting the artificial origin theory because they’re afraid the powers that be might realize just how very dangerous a lot of their research is, and how sloppy they can be with the systems that are supposed to prevent leaks from labs (the biosafety level (BSL) stuff, the WIV having the PRC’s first public and official highest level BSL-4 lab, although that doesn’t mean their gain of function research was done in that lab with all its inconveniences). The organization that was the NIH’s cutout for WIV funding even organized a scientific letter published in one of the major journals denying the lab leak possiblity, without of course also stating their conflicts of interest which is SOP nowadays.

  133. @Thomasina

    It was almost like they wanted it to enter the U.S. Why?

    To get rid of Trump, as you suggest. When the virus hit the U.S. it enabled the rationale in support of the mail-in ballot scam, the main strategy for the election steal. As well it gave the Dems a huge issue relating to Trump’s competence to rail against him for.

    While the epidemic was fomenting in Wuhan, the Dems were impeaching Trump for wanting an investigation into Honest Joe’s corruption in the Ukraine. The articles of impeachment were inexplicably left sitting in the House and not delivered to the Senate until we had all heard the stories of the strange outbreak in Wuhan. It thus served to distract Trump’s attention and our attention from the coming pandemic.

    Just possibly the delay was not incidental but rather a feature. Only Miss Nancy knows.

  134. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    Thank you for bringing up the incentives, Dr. Fhandrich. I didn’t want to start this thread off on these matters that have already been argued for a year, as the OP was about the initiation of the spread of this.

    However, since you brought it up, I got an email myself, over a year back, saying there would be no deductible charge and no co-pay on any health problems due to the dreaded Covid-on-niner. The latest I hear is the US Feral Gov’t, with it’s Trillions & Trillions to spend freely, is giving people \$9,000 of more Treasury Bond-lent money for funerals for loved ones who died “of” COVID. There have been, and still are, both monetary and political incentives for deaths to be chalked up to COVID.

    Sure, excess deaths is excess deaths, but I agree with those commenter who have already noted that most of this is just early deaths of those for whom the Kung Flu was the last straw but weren’t in good shape to be long for this world anyway.

    The PanicFest is the big story, not the origin! I can’t understand how Mr. Unz can be in the midst of this story and yet still miss it.

    • 同意: Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  135. anon[161]• 免责声明 说:

    My own take is similar to Ron’s, but I think he is mistaken on one very major point. Ron thinks the blowback in the USA was unintended, there is every reason to believe otherwise. The truth is that the US economy was crashing. The repo markets had frozen up in September 2019 and either a collapse, or a “reset”, of the western financial system was at hand.

    病毒攻击的目标是双重的,首先,它旨在对中国造成与美国预期遭受的金融崩溃同样程度的经济损失。 这将阻止中国人利用西方的崩溃并取代美国成为全球霸主。

    The second goal, was to provide a cover story to the masses in the west that the collapse and financial ruin being imposed upon them was not the fault of the banksters and elites, but rather the result of a “pandemic”.

    To me this is the only basic theory that fits the obvious over-reaction of the governments in the west and the ready to rollout “great reset” marketing campaign of the Davos crowd.

    • 同意: FB, acementhead
    • 回复: @lysias
    , @Elsewhere
    , @FB
    , @idrankwhat
  136. The most disturbing thing about Covid 19, is that the Deep State has finally pulled off a false-flag that the average eight grader can’t figure out within fifteen minutes.

  137. anon[301]• 免责声明 说:
    @SafeNow

    A number of French Army participants in the Wuhan Military Games came back ill from there.Some gave interview with the press and mentioned this as a fact from experience,then were prohibited by the minister of Defense to make statements.

    The first region to be touched by Covid-19 was around the military airport were those military athletes landed on their return.
    Numerous covid cases were reported in the navy after that.

    French government must have had foreknowledge,because health minister prohibited the use of hydroxychloroquine on january 15 20200 after the product was on free sale for over sixty years.

  138. Publius 2 说:
    @Biff

    You should believe the thousands of doctors who agree with me. But they’ve been silenced and you read only CNN and Washington Post, so you haven’t read the truth.

    您还应该相信自己的眼睛。 您可以简单地环顾四周,看看没有人死亡。 但是,一如既往,真理和现实在左派宗教狂热分子中制造了极端的齿轮。

    没有人死。 没有任何。 没有人。

    脱下你的脸尿布,布玛。

    • 回复: @Stonehands
  139. anonymous[306]• 免责声明 说:

    When you consider that CIA’s aggression comprehends in it all related crimes, we should look again at the assassination of Soleimani, which conveniently kept the executive distracted from the spread of COVID-19 at the critical stage when it could have been controlled.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9557591/Trump-planned-Qassem-Soleimanis-assassination-2017-wanted-wipe-list-folks.html

    This is only one of CIA’s convenient fuckups, and all of them contributed to deniability. Another was Nancy Messonier’s virtuosic cluster fuck of a career: impeding diagnosis, supporting EUA false claims. Yet another was the inexplicable spate of superspreading snafus at O’Hare and other international airports. At a time when Taiwanese research showed that haplotype distribution indicated US origin, a tour de force of central direction penned travelers into confined spaces, tainting the evidence of US introduction.

  140. @Emslander

    Unz’s obsessive focus upon his irrelevant “origins” theories is just part of the smoke and mirrors.

    Agreed. Clearly, some are witting participants in the smoke & mirrors. Others are unwitting. I’d like to think Ron Unz is in the latter category.

    No doubt, there is a much bigger story here that people are either missing or purposely avoiding because of the sheer magnitude of its implications.

    • 同意: Kali
  141. Public messaging in California is now telling the vaccinated to continue to wear TWO masks. Six beautiful actors with no masks in sight, imploring us to wear two masks in all social environments, indefinitely. Meanwhile Fauci articulates that masks will become the new normal, even if COVID goes away, so as to protect us from flu. The goalposts have been moved so far they are about to fall off the edge of the Earth. Nothing on television has ever been true or real; every second of programming is a form of advertisement.

    Governmental response to COVID has never been about saving lives. It has always been about forcing austerity. At some point we may be tossed out of the frying pan and into the fire.

  142. cranc 说:
    @israel shamir

    视其为9/11。 第2版​​,对我们所有人的攻击。

    我同意。

    罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)的假设存在一个严重的矛盾。 他承认,科维德病的致死率相对较低,但可高度传播。 [顺便说一句,他错误地认为它已被证明是无症状的传播-Covid宣传的众多神话之一]。

    “高传染性,低致死性疾病非常适合破坏经济”,这表明冠状病毒的表观特征在这方面已接近最佳。

    但是Unz还假设,绘图人员认为该病毒不会在目标国家/地区传播:

    在东亚和近东发生的致命SARS和MERS疫情从未显着扩散回美国(或欧洲),因此,绘图员错误地认为Covid-19也是如此。

    SARS和MERS被认为是具有高(致命)致死率但具有低(可传播性)的病毒。 如果意图是对中国造成经济损害,那么这些绘图员就不会意识到这些病毒形式的差异,也不会采取极端措施来确保感染仍留在目标国家是不合理的。
    我认为这从根本上破坏了Unz的贡献。 那和他对他的理论的批评家是“阴谋理论家”,“特朗普支持者”,“反vaxxers”,“流感骗子”或“反中国”。

  143. Jeff Davis 说:
    @Anonymous

    “Your statement is devoid of data or logic. It’s an emotional response that often comes when deep-seated indoctrination gets challenged by observable reality.”

    一项与现实相关的非凡评论,在后真理时代得到了广泛的应用。

    It’s a shame you choose anonymity, as I’d like to hear more from someone whose brain has managed somehow to remain “unbroken”.

  144. @Johnny Smoggins

    There are probably butterflies that are more dangerous than Covid.

    Hell yeah! Those damn things start hurricanes with just a flap of their wings.

    Kill all the frigging butterflies, I say, and save a Melanesian community from disaster.

    As for moths – those bastards eat holes in everything, so just on principle they should all be killed on sight.

  145. Publius 2 说:
    @nsa

    Spectacular crash is coming soon. You will see \$12/gallon milk.

  146. @nsa

    Those were Ron’s word, not mine, NSA. I should have put quotes around them. However, all is not well – what you see is pent up demand spending along with lots of Red State and city people getting the hell out of their still-partially-LOCKDOWNED shitholes. City life is going downhill fast, especially with the new pro-black-criminal policies in place now. This is why rural and exurban land are going up through the roof.

    You are right that it’s an inflationary boom. What’s the good of that, asshole? The Feral Gov’t is spending another proposed \$6,000,000,000,000 shortly in addition to the few extra Trillion that was spent in ’20.

    Help wanted signs are around because people are still getting more money from the extra unemployment checks than they can get working. People I know with a family- run restaurant can only hire people under the table for this reason.

    Think of the root economic causes of what’s going on and how this is going to end. This is exactly why I’d like to see a prepper columnist on this highly-functional site with the best commenting system I’ve ever seen.

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Clyde
  147. @michael888

    I remember the British genomics group diligently following the appearance of mutations by time and geography. The group went silent when the UK (Kent) variant B.1.1.7 appeared with 23 mutations, 17 of which changed proteins. There were no precursors which would give a pedigree from where this variant accrued mutations. Finally authorities decided it arose in someone with poor immunity

    I don’t remember them going silent, but I admit I haven’t followed this domain closely; recently having gotten vaccinated against “classic coronavirus” it’s now on my list.

    The origin thesis of a single individual with poor immunity is entirely plausible and is supposed to be a standard cause of this, it certainly is with antibiotic resistance. Or we might say that if you don’t think it is you shouldn’t be repeating the first part of Geert vandem Bossche’s warnings. Because the mechanism behind both is the same, ecological selection pressure. In a population, once natural and vaccine immunity becomes a big enough brick wall, mutations to get around that immunity are obviously favored. If there are none possible and herd immunity is reached, which we hope eventually happens but probably unrealistically, the virus will die out. SARS did, but neither it nor MERS transmits well.

    Lineage B.1.1.7 is significantly better at transmission than classic coronavirus without being significantly more deadly (kill the host too quickly and he doesn’t have as long to transmit the virus), thus it’s plausible it arose in a long ecological battle in a single human, step by step out competing classic coronavirus and other variants that would have been in that human. Including earlier variants of itself with fewer mutations.

    • 回复: @michael888
    , @Godfree Roberts
  148. Publius 2 说:
    @Marckus

    Yep, if MSM told people they need to tie a purple balloon to their head at all times to protect from “the virus”, 80% of people (sheep) would do it. As Hitler explained, 80% of the population are pure, unthinking sheep who cannot form an original thought and believe everything MSM tells them to believe. Which is why control of the MSM is everything.

    This is why even a large % of Republicans believe the mask hoax.

    • 回复: @Rev. Spooner
  149. Mevashir 说:
    @Gizmo880

    我想说中国人更值得信赖。 看看他们如何环游世界,与每个国家进行业务往来。 与美国建立军事基地和情报机构并试图通过恐惧力量和恐吓控制世界的美国不同,中国人只是精明的全球商人。

    • 哈哈: Jeffrey A Freeman
  150. @Trinity

    There’s over 9 million acres of farmland in the US (364 million hectares). The Gates purchase of 232,000 acres is curious, and I certainly wouldn’t want to be one of his neighbors, but is a drop in the bucket. Less than the area of Guam or our smallest state of Rhode Island, around half of my mostly farming county in flyover USA. We are a food superpower after all.

    • 巨魔: Theophrastus
    • 回复: @anon
    , @Lucius Somesuch
    , @utu
  151. Interesting article. Here are more info links of interest:

    https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038
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    https://www.sott.net/article/451575-Over-a-year-and-85bn-later-US-spies-still-dont-know-where-when-or-how-Covid-19-hit-the-world-but-it-could-ve-been-a-lab
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    12月16,2020
    Peter Daszak 的生态健康联盟隐藏了近 40 万美元的五角大楼资金和军事化流行病科学
    通过萨姆·侯赛尼(Sam Husseini)

    [更多]

    https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/
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    https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/04/nih-gain-of-function-anthony-fauci-review-board-wuhan-lab/
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    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-downplays-possibility-covid-leaked-chinese-lab-his-agency-helped
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    https://borjeperattobserver.wordpress.com/2020/11/30/dr-faucis-covid-19-treachery/
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    https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20170111/fauci-no-doubt-trump-will-face-surprise-infectious-disease-outbreak
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    https://www.gastongazette.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/26/letter-dr-anthony-faucirsquos-business-model/114491320/
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    https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741?amp=1
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    Fauci / COVID-19档案
    该文件由David E. Martin博士为人类准备。

    https://f.hubspotusercontent10.net/hubfs/8079569/The%20FauciCOVID-19%20Dossier.pdf
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    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/13/is-dr-fauci-the-father-of-the-pandemic/
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    https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/bill-gates-anthony-fauci-pandemic-changes.html
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    “In 2014, U.S. officials imposed a moratorium on experiments to enhance some of the world’s most lethal viruses by making them transmissible by air, responding to widespread concerns that a lab accident could spark a global pandemic.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-us-is-funding-dangerous-experiments-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about/2019/02/27/5f60e934-38ae-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html
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    CHINA’S SECRET HUMAN ANIMAL HYBRID EXPERIMENTS
    发布时间:四月5,2021

    It is now known that China has been carrying out all kinds of dangerous and ethically controversial research which may not be allowed in Western countries.

    It is also known that scientists from other countries outsource controversial and unethical experiments to labs in China.

    “It is inexcusable and irresponsible that some countries of the Western world are ‘outsourcing’ risky biotechnological research to countries like China.”

    “In some cases, this is even done because ethical rules which exist in most parts of Europe would prohibit some classes of biotechnological research to be conducted in the home countries.”

    – Dr Roland Wiesendanger, Hamburg University

    In order to emerge as a biotech superpower, China is planning to build up to seven more high security labs – the same as the Wuhan Institute of Virology by 2025.

    An official from the US embassy in Beijing told the Washington Post that there was an “entire galaxy of activity, including labs and military labs in Beijing and Wuhan playing around with coronaviruses in ACE2 mice in unsafe labs.”

    SUPER VIRUSES
    Chinese scientists are known to have been carrying out research to make the viruses more infectious.

    Such experiments were originally banned in the US in 2014 – but were reintroduced by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in 2017.

    The research was conducted to prepare the world to fight against such pandemic. But it also had a risk of virus leak from the labs.

    NIH had funded this dangerous research in the WIV through a grant to the EcoHealth Alliance.

    Dr Wiesendanger told The Sun Online a virus created or modified within the lab could be even more devastating than Covid – potentially with a death rate of up to 80 per cent.

    He said: “Current biotechnological methods, as used in gain-of-function-experiments, could potentially be used to combine properties of viruses with a very high human-to-human transmission rate and a very high death rate.”

    “We urgently need international regulations and surveys for these types of experiments.”

    Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in New Jersey, previously told The Sun Online: “Gain-of-function research of concern — no matter where it is performed — risks creating new pandemic pathogens and of triggering new pandemics.”

    Five years ago, Italian state owned media Company, Rai – Radiotelevisione Italiana, exposed how Chinese scientists were conducting biological experiments on a SARS connected virus believed to be Coronavirus, derived from bats and mice, asking whether it was worth the risk in order to be able to modify the virus for compatibility with human organisms….

    [在下面的链接中了解更多信息]

    https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/79638/chinas-secret-human-animal-hybrid.html

    https://greatgameindia.com/china-secret-human-animal-hybrid-experiments/

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    Secret American Experiments Tied To Chinese Animal Markets

    April 11, 2020
    The United States has been one of the worst-hit countries in the wake of coronavirus pandemic. After the source of the virus was traced to the wet markets of Wuhan (China), the voices calling for a worldwide ban have grown louder. But do you know that secret experiments conducted by America are directly tied to Chinese animal markets? American tax dollars were used to fund these live-meat markets and animal testing labs at the Wuhan Institute of Virology – yes, the same place from where Coronavirus is believed to have spread out….

    https://greatgameindia.com/secret-american-experiments-tied-to-chinese-animal-markets/

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    EXCLUSIVE: Coronavirus Bioweapon – How China Stole Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponized It (watch here Visualizing The Secret History Of Coronavirus)
    Watch the exclusive interview of Bioweapons Expert Dr. Francis Boyle on Coronavirus Biological Warfare blocked by the Deep State
    https://greatgameindia.com/secret-american-experiments-tied-to-chinese-animal-markets/

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    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-26-steve-hilton-drops-bombshell-faucis-commissioned-research.html#
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    https://www.mediamatters.org/maria-bartiromo/fox-host-claims-dr-fauci-responsible-creation-covid-19
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    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/investigation-fauci-controversial-experiments-pandemic/
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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/did-u-s-taxpayers-fund-research-that-became-the-coronavirus-lawrence-jones-and-steve-hilton-react
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    https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/an-interview-with-richard-ebright-anthony-fauci-francis-collins-systematically-thwarted/
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    https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/
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    https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/ecohealth-alliance-orchestrated-key-scientists-statement-on-natural-origin-of-sars-cov-2/
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    • 回复: @skrik
  152. Desert Fox 说:

    Covid-19 is a mythical conception of the demented satanic minds of the globalists, covid-19 does not exist, it has never been isolated and even the private corporations , the NGOs the CDC and the WHO have admitted on their sites that it does not exist, however this phantom so called virus concept has been used to spread fear and hysteria among the worlds population and enabled the globalists to shut down and destroy the ability of small business to stay in business and force people onto the government dole.

    This mythical concept has also been used to get people to get vaccinated with vaccines that are not really vaccines , but are an operating platform to deliver mRNA which alters the DNA and destroys the immune system, and has already caused deaths and crippling of the people who have taken these injections, and will kill and injure many more in the future, as this is a genocide weapon being unleashed on the worlds population.

    The globalists behind this depopulation scam and psyop are some of the most diabolical, demented, draconian creatures to ever have walked the earth.

    • 回复: @John Fisher
    , @ThreeCranes
  153. Drew 说:
    @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    Assuming you’re amenable to logic and rational thought, your claim that, “If they had not caught COVID 19 they would be ALIVE today” is simply an unprovable assumption. Counterfactual hypotheticals cannot ever be proven, only asserted, as you have done here. All humans are mortal, and each human will die at some point in time; it’s simply a question of when. Every person who has died with Covid would have died without it, and so it becomes merely a question of how much shorter ones life was because they contracted Covid. If we choose to be honest, the only answer we can reality give is: we don’t know. To claim that everyone who died with Covid would be alive had they not been infected is illogical and dishonest. I hope that you are better than that.

    • 回复: @nosquat loquat
  154. Alden 说:
    @SafeNow

    One theory is that the American military brought covid hoax to Wuhan in December 2019 and sprinkled the virus around town.

    Reverse of that theory is that the Chinese developed the virus and sprinkled the hotels where American military stayed with the virus. I remember articles on this site that Americans became sick in Wuhan.

    Whatever the truth is, we’ll never know.

    • 回复: @SafeNow
    , @Badger Down
  155. lysias 说:
    @anon

    I wonder if the planning to make the 2011 “Contagion” movie may have started because of the 2008-9 financial collapse.

  156. @PhiltheFluter

    “After all, according to the CCP, they need more “lebensraum” and the US empty of Americans would provide just that.”

    I think we’re getting into the realms of fantasy here. Plenty of room, admittedly not as nice as California, in Xinjiang and on the Ussuri River. And if we want to keep our tin hats on, remember that H1N1 (swine flu) 1977 was probably an escape from a Russian (Soviet) lab, as it was almost identical to a strain last seen in 1950. AND the first outbreak was in China!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Russian_flu

  157. @Realist

    It’s a spectacular, cool, sunny day where I am on this Monday of a new week. I’m looking out the large window in my home office at swaying, sun-dappled trees and anticipating the several nice activities planned for the coming days.

    I sympathize if where you live is ghastly and nothing is on the calendar but, I do hope that situation improves. Cheers…

    • 回复: @Realist
  158. Adam Grant 说:

    Given that Xi declared a 30 year war on the U.S. in October 2018, shouldn’t we consider the possibility that the virus is a Chinese bioweapon? Gregory Copley, perhaps the world’s greatest strategic thinker (mentored by super brain Stefan Possony), April 2020:

    “…when it went to war with the US it would be a new kind of war.

    中华人民共和国(PRC) 习近平随后于2018年30月宣布,他已开始与美国进行``新的XNUMX年战争''。

    但是似乎没有“珍珠港”的时刻,因此世界其他地方无视战争的宣布。 那是个错误。

    很明显,受2020年COVID-19启发的“全球恐惧大流行”奠定了战场的地形,并看到中国以各种战略形式出现了开场白。 可以肯定的是,COVID-19本身并不是“珍珠港时刻”。 随之而来的恐惧大流行压低了全球经济。

    Beijing could not wait any longer to begin strategic operations — the new form of “total war” — if it was to survive as a global power and to assume primacy within its symbolic 30 year timeframe.”

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/China-Is-Waging-A-New-Kind-Of-War-Against-The-US.html

    China has 18.5% of the world’s population but only 7% of the world’s water, 70% of it polluted. Much of China’s farmland is polluted. In the coming years China’s need for expensive food imports will be the anchor around its neck. As Copley has stated, “China is finished.” If China is going down they want to take us with them.

    有趣的是,这种病毒对于患有男性型秃顶的白人男性最为严重(白人中最常见,亚洲人中最不常见)。 简历还针对肥胖者。 巧合吗? 也许。

  159. No other respectable public intellectual is even part owner or propounder of your biowarfare by rogue American agents theory. It is uniquely yours and it would be unreasonable, if not a crime against free inquiry, to urge you to close down your advocacy while there is still an unfalsified case to be made. Still, without hammering too boringly points I have raised in the past there are some questions which deserve to be asked.

    While the Atlantic Council sponsored report which does not, as I had discovered for myself, even mention “Unz” once can perhaps be dismissed for the reasons you gave, the same cannot be said of Nicholas Wade’s work which apparently makes no mention of your theory though Wade must be well aware of it. Is the esteemed Mr Wade less brave than Ron Unz? Is he financially insecure and in need of employment? Would he have failed to find a publisher? Of course not: The Unz Review would have published him or the London Review of Books. And would he anyway have had a problem slipping in “there are of course on offer more radical explanations of the Wuhan outbreak which some would sneer at as ‘conspiracy theories’ of which one of the more cogently argued is that of former scientist Ron Unz [links provided].”

    Your biggest subjective leap of faith into the totally unknown and unproven is that there are a small number of senior, powerful, but foolish and irresponsible rogue agents within (presumably) the intelligence community who would see it as in their interests to damage China economically with biowarfare attacks – but all without a shred of evidence as to who they might be or even that they exist. They would have to be remarkably insouciant about the ease with which China could retaliate on American agriculture at a time to suit them.

    I would rate my guess that America’s medical intelligence people had reliable contacts in the Wuhan Institute as considerably more probable. To which I would add my counter speculation to your hypothetical “rogue agents” theory that just one senior Ft. Detrick scientist was on the point of retiring with his pet project on coronaviruses unfinished, and likely to be closed down when he left. So we learn eventually from his old emails that, in October 2019 he was about to send a rather big insulated box to Dr Xi at Wuhan with his graduate studen cousin Dr Lee – marked “Fragile” and “Handle With Care”.

    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  160. Wade 说:

    温兹先生

    感谢您撰写另一篇引人深思的文章。

    但是,我无法理解的是,某些事实在您的所有文章中如何占主导地位,而其他重要数据点却被完全忽略了。 例如,上面的第6点:

    到“ XNUMX月的第二周”,我们的国防情报局已经开始准备一份秘密报告,警告武汉发生“催化性”疾病暴发

    在您的叙述中如此突出。 我想这主要是为了减轻人们对这仅仅是无意的“实验室泄漏”的怀疑,其次是要免除中国人为肇事者和美国为肇事者的责任。

    这对我来说听起来很合理,只是它完全忽略了这样一个现实,即在 DIA 开始报告前整整一个月,世界经济论坛(由其亿万富翁成员资助,每年会费 700,000 美元)举办了 Event 201模拟世界范围内的冠状病毒大流行。 到目前为止,你甚至还没有提到这个令人震惊的事实。 因此,您的论文似乎遇到了与实验室泄漏假设类似的盲点。 结果,你已经 推断 美国的目标是:停滞中国的经济。 对美国的反击构成了损害其自身利益的可怕的“自身目标”。

    但是,这不是西方领导人在疫情爆发后的整体表现。 大流行一经宣布,世界经济论坛的负责人克劳斯·施瓦布(Klaus Schwab)便与查尔斯王子(Charles Prince)和世界经济论坛的许多其他成员一起,在社交媒体上宣布了《大复位》。 空白点指出,COVID大流行的吉祥时刻是世界朝着未来迈进的催化剂,在这个世界中,“您将一无所有。 而且,您将很高兴!”,很明显,此公告是针对第201号事件的预期跟进和响应,并且WEF充分意识到了美国情报机构之前的迫在眉睫的灾难(除非WEF与美国情报机构协同工作) )。

    我们可以在这里在COVID和911之间绘制一些非常明显的相似之处。尽管我承认仅在事件a和事件b之间绘制相似之处并不能证明任何原因的理论,但无论如何都值得考虑这些相似之处,尽管这些相似之处惊人。

    我非常感兴趣地阅读了您在911上发表的Pravda文章,我同意您的结论。 PNAC,与犹太复国主义和以色列有着深厚的联系,这是一个“新美国世纪计划”,臭名昭著的是,美国帝国占领了中东的多个国家。 但是,他们写道,如果没有“新珍珠港”这样的“催化事件”,他们的建议就不会成功。 PNAC的成员保罗·沃尔福威茨(Paul Wolfowitz)与犹太复国主义有着深厚的联系,他在2001年XNUMX月在西点(West Point)发表演讲时,他讨论了重建美国国防的必要性,并解释说,这样做的道路将是漫长的,而没有某些“刺激性事件”,例如新珍珠港”。

    据已退休的美国将军韦斯利·克拉克(Wesley Clark)称,五角大楼在911发行几周后散发了一份备忘录,表明他们打算在7年内袭击7个中东国家。

    [更多]

    难怪许多人得出结论说911的肇事者是犹太复国主义者。 有许多指标(太长了,我无法在这里重新提出建议)表明他们知道即将进行袭击,并且他们已经就美国应该如何应对这一事件提前制定了计划。

    一个人如何摆脱对COVID大流行的可能根源的分析,世界经济论坛的先进知识及其在其后的果断行动,这超出了我目前的理解。 WEF和PNAC之间的相似之处令人惊讶。

    像沃尔福威茨的西点讲话一样,我们有福西的讲话,他在讲话中宣布唐纳德·特朗普将在未来几年内面临大流行危机。

    现在,您可能会指出,由于大多数著名的WEF成员可能都是美国人,而Fauci显然是美国人,因此这为您的案件提供了进一步的证据,表明美国在背后。 然而,奥巴马总统强迫福西(Fauci)停止在美国进行的GOF研究,该研究被他的前任布什(GW Bush)认定为非法。 尽管有美国官员的正式命令,富奇还是顽固地将其业务转移到了武汉,这应该让我们停顿一下,以询问富奇的赞助者是谁,以及他们的动机是什么。

    这是与911相似之处。 尽管在911年之后假设这样一项具有里程碑意义的事业必须有国家赞助商(以色列或美国)是完全合理的,但对COVID的爆发采取同样的假设却不是那么合理。 如果炭疽恐慌教给我们的是什么,显然是比我们不愿承认的那样,让生物战代理人离开Fort Detrick这样的实验室要容易得多,这样一来,对其员工进行一点贿赂或勒索就足够了。 鉴于辉瑞这样的公司或WEF的人有足够的财务资源,没有理由将我们的分析人为地限制在美国和中国这样的国家行为体上,并使用间接证据排除中国,从而得出结论。默认为美国。 毕竟,恰好有300名美军在场,在武汉需要多少人才能释放病毒?

    如果是美国,那几乎就像是他们想要使自己成为主要嫌疑人之一。 如果不是,他们是否可以利用某些“私有者”,也许是三合会的成员或一些反共的中国人来从事肮脏的工作? 当然,美国情报机构有无数种途径可以秘密地将一小瓶病毒物质秘密地开放到潮湿的市场,而这种方式不会自动引起美国的注意。

    几年前,特朗普总统曾在世界经济论坛上发表过一次演讲,这与弗拉基米尔·普京最近发表的演讲非常相似,普京告诉他们,他们可以把他们的《大复位》推向没有阳光的地方。 特朗普在世界经济论坛宣布大复位之前的讲话,令他们感到震惊的是,他谈到了每个国家领导人在道义上有义务为自己国家的最大利益做事。 作为回应,乔治·索罗斯(George Soros)发表讲话,宣布唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)是“对整个地球的危险”。 我相信曾经有高级美军在场的人同意这一评估,尽管这些名字使我无所适从。 我确实知道,“疯狗”马蒂斯最近说过“美国优先”是一个危险的想法,拜登总统必须将其从美国的议程中删除。 好像高级军事人员已经被修饰并灌输到全球主义议程中了,其领导人根本不在乎美国本身,而是在需要我们时将我们用作攻击犬。 如果有的话,对他们破坏我们的生活水平将是有利的。

    如您所知,特朗普总统是拜登(Biden)“美国历史上最大的选民欺诈组织”,以及一群富有的美国精英的“罢工”(据《时代周刊》的文章)驱赶出任的,约翰·克里(John Kerry)在宣布这一任命后不久WEF认为拜登在“大复位”中“完全参与”。 您和我一样都知道,特朗普的政策对犹太复国主义和以色列非常友好。 另一方面,他的政策令WEF感到厌恶。 鉴于拜登(Biden)的竞选口号与世界经济论坛(WEF)的“重建更好”的口号相同,这不足为奇。 包括贾斯汀·特鲁多(Justin Trudeau)在内的所有普通嫌疑犯都在重复同样的口号。 COVID和我们国家对此的反应似乎也令人怀疑地伤害了唐纳德·特朗普的连任机会,事实上,COVID在许多政党中都是“双赢”的。 显然更致命的压力被用来针对伊朗领导人,这很可能让犹太复国主义者全力以赴讨价还价(这样的事情令人怀疑,如果以色列的摩萨德对此一无所知,能否做到这一点呢?最好将他们付诸行动)。 如果我们只问自己“崔波诺?”,答案是明确的:那些对流行病有最早了解的亿万富翁也制定了详细的应对计划,以充分发挥作用。

    简而言之,我认为这不是西方列强的“自己的目标”。 如果美国情报机构代表亿万富翁这样做,可能会或可能不会直接参与其中(这并不奇怪),并且 他们 显然,COVID对欧洲和美国的影响是一个功能,而不是错误。 而且,其中一些世界经济论坛的亿万富翁是欧洲人而不是美国人。 我知道我不会针对您的每一个观点。 但是,我认为其中大部分内容,只要有足够的说明,都可以包含在“这一切都与伟大的重置有关!”一词中。

    无论如何,我很高兴听到您对WEF,Klaus Schwab(Henry Kissinger的门徒)及其“伟大的重置”的仔细考虑和意见。 对我来说,这件事让人回想起1917年的共产党收购,很难想象与COVID-19没有关系。

    问候,

    • 同意: Polemos
    • 谢谢: Garliv
  161. Rdm 说:

    Here’s another aspect of it.

    Recently there’re spring revolutions or genocidal activities across the world that defeat 6 feet distancing and mask wearing policy in 2020-2021.

    1. France (anti-semite protest, April 2021)
    2. Colombia (anti-government, April 2021)
    3. Spain demonstration
    4. Thailand (anti-government, July 2020)
    5. Myanmar (anti-coup, March 2021)
    6. Palestinian genocide by Israeli government (May 2021)

    The list goes on. They’re not a pocket of night vigilante. They march in hundreds, some in thousands. The activities last for days, some even for months.

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    No news has been heard on deadly virus or oxygen shortage thereafter in those countries.

    But we’re seeing ONE makeshift cemetery in a car parking in India that captures the entire world attention that COVID-19 is still possible in 2021 with impending danger of burning your body at some garage.

    If you think Dem took control of virus narrative back in 2020 to coup for Biden victory, the same can be said for BJP and muslim majority in India scenarios as well.

    该病毒是真实的。
    The death above 70 is real.

    But the death count has been the most absurd casualty that you could ever imagine in your life.

    In fact, I stick my neck out and say that China reporting of death count by Covid would be the best estimate of the real covid death count, rather than counting all the gunshot wounds, seasonal flu, chronic asthma and preexisting conditions. That is not to say China is good and reliable. But the real picture of the virus infectivity and deadly rate would be mostly commensurate with what China is reporting than those in higher up screwing up the narrative the big time.

    Maybe we can learn a thing or two from India when it comes to fighting against the virus.

    Of course, wear your mask !!!

  162. Wild Man 说:

    I don’t buy Mr. Unz’s hypothesis. Because, if it were true, then why would the CCP continue to have Dr. Shi’s research records sealed, as release of said info (under Mr. Unz’s scenario), would absolve the CCP and China of responsibility – no?

    From Wade’s article:

    “China’s central authorities did not generate SARS2 but they sure did their utmost to conceal the nature of the tragedy and China’s responsibility for it. They suppressed all records at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and closed down its virus databases. They released a trickle of information, much of which may have been outright false or designed to misdirect and mislead. They did their best to manipulate the WHO’s inquiry into the virus’s origins, and led the commission’s members on a fruitless run-around. So far they have proved far more interested in deflecting blame than in taking the steps necessary to prevent a second pandemic.”

    The crux of Mr. Unz’s hypothesis relies on his contention that:

    “It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires.”

    But what about general defense intelligence agency incompetence or gullibility-mongering? Here is an old article by the gullible Mr. Gwynne Dyer:

    “On how to predict the fall of human civilization: Most of [the scenarios] were from military reports. There was a lot of awareness among scientists about the severity of climate change, but scientists don’t do strategic scenarios. A lot of that scenario stuff, believe it or not, actually started with Shell Oil back in the ’70s. They came up with relatively disciplined rules for these things — we’re not just writing science fiction here. What we want is credible, possible futures. The pentagon’s very big on that now.”

    https://thetyee.ca/Books/2009/01/06/ClimateWars/

    I am not so sure that a particular western military intelligence report(s), means that it has anything to do with reality.

    • 回复: @Anonymous2718
  163. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Thomasina

    The globalists have made a killing off manufacturing in China, along with the Chinese elite. These are the people who are in control of the government.

    True. However, China has outgrown the globalists who started the project, and has created their own. The usual pattern for the globalists is to export to a low wage country, make their loot, then, when wages start rising, move to another low wage target. South Korea gained traction because Japan became “high wage”. When SK started to become “high wage” globalist investment started to look elsewhere. Mexico benefited through NAFTA, but about 10 years ago, the globalists saw Mexico as becoming “high wage” and started to look elsewhere.
    The people in control of the Chinese government are a known and predictable commodity within the CCP, just as, prior to Gorbachov, all those running the USSR were a known and predictable commodity. They are firmly committed to “make China great again”, by being a 21st century version of their pre-“Western” domination, when they were self sufficient and traded widely.

    It’s always about the economy, the world banking system. Follow the money.

    True. Again, China has set about beating the globalist bankers at their own game. Will they be successful in the long run? Only time will tell. Until that is decided, they will continue to be the enemy of finance capital.

    • 回复: @Carroll Price
  164. @Alfred

    他和我正常握手。

    之后你们都做了洗手液​​爆炸吗? 你听起来像几个 狂野的家伙!

  165. Realist 说:
    @The Real World

    It’s a spectacular, cool, sunny day where I am on this Monday of a new week. I’m looking out the large window in my home office at swaying, sun-dappled trees and anticipating the several nice activities planned for the coming days.

    If it is so wonderful where you are, why would you spend time reading a verbose screed, that was published before? Why didn’t you go outside and enjoy the wonderful day?

    您的回答是荒谬的

    • 回复: @The Real World
  166. MLK 说:
    @The Real World

    哇,我很难读过去

    是的。 高层的阴谋柔顺。

    Operation Get Rid Of Trump began 2020 having failed in its pitch perfect attempted replay of the Iranian Hostage Crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection. The plug-n-play Covid even made use of the TV news chyrons, this time blaring cases and deaths rather than days of embassy hostage humiliation.

    The suppleness came into play because Trump didn’t make it easy for them. They were forced to have Democrat Governors run up the numbers among seniors and own the lockdowns.

    Make no mistake, if Trump had more aggressively challenged the virulence of this plandemic, and their denotation of Trump’s MAGA economy, more deadly strains would have magically appeared.

    It really is a fool’s errand to think you can puzzle out the origins because all of the relevant players — the anti-Trump alignment, foreign and domestic — acted in furtherance of their objective without exception since inception, including CCP China.

    • 同意: Thomasina
  167. Bevin Chu 说:

    The evidence in favor of Ron Unz’s conclusions about the origin of the Covid crisis is simply overwhelming. Motive? Check. Means? Check. Opportunity? Check.

    Cui bono? Who benefits? Who has been seeking to kneecap China’s economic miracle?

    If the victim was not America’s hated rival China, and the suspect was not the United States government, and both victim and victimizer were “red-blooded Americans”, criminal prosecutors would long ago have indicted the perpetrators for mass murder.

    The US cannot be convicted of war crimes because it is impossible to subpoena and prosecute officials of another nation unless they leave their own country.

  168. @The Real World

    准备好男孩和女孩以及其他所有57种性别异常。

    现在,有毒遗传疗法的注射已经碰壁了。 意思是,他们的精疲力尽的豚鼠已经用光了,要么需要通过批准辉瑞和Moderna的女巫酿造来强制注射。 或者,制造新的病毒大流行,从而在与新病毒的战斗中重新标记其当前未使用的批次。

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/no_author/the-next-pandemic-chikungunya-virus/

    正如阿斯利康(AstraZeneca)重新标记它是有毒的遗传疗法一样,我们仁慈的大制药公司也会采取同样的行动,加入对抗邪恶的基孔肯雅病毒的斗争。

    恐惧不能同志。 比尔·盖茨和福西························································································································

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/no_author/i-am-one-of-millions-who-have-chosen-not-to-have-a-covid-vaccine/

    • 同意: Realist
  169. Curmudgeon 说:
    @22pp22

    肥胖是一种选择。

    不总是。 有些代谢性疾病会导致体重增加或肥胖以及其他疾病,例如甲状腺功能异常。

    • 回复: @lysias
    , @Carroll Price
  170. Any and all persons engaged in the creation of new diseases should be publically executed. Including Mr. Gates.

  171. Trinity 说:

    Andrew Anglin has another article about the attacks on Asians and frankly I do think China is shouldering the blame for something they had no role in whatsoever. I at first thought China was involved with the usual suspects but the more (((they))) try to pin this one on China the more obvious this becomes. Kind of like how Whitey has been blamed for the African Slave Trade or how Germany was blamed for starting WWII. Same old tired and worn out horseshit that even a third grader can figure out.

    Right now, I am honestly trying to figure out if the virus even exists before I even make accusations. hahaha. My brother called the other day and named one of my old classmates as a recent fatality due to (((covid-19.))) Hell, I had to look the guy up in my annual, didn’t really know him, however, lets just say I knew the guy. As of May 10, 2021, he is the only one I know of personally who has contracted this “deadly virus.” lolololol. I am 60 years old, go to the gym crowded with young people who don’t give a damn and I feel great. ROTFLMMFWAO. No face diaper for my old azz.

    Just imagine for a second if Trump knew this virus was a Mossad operation. Would Trump have referred to this virus as the “Jew Flu?” So in that regard, he was out of line in calling this the China Virus. How many of those Trumpers would have laughed and cheered if Trump called this the Jew Flu? I admire being politically incorrect, but maybe Trump was being politically correct instead. Whatcha think? IF you are going to be politically incorrect and brag about being politically incorrect, don’t talk out of both sides of your mouth. Right, Tucker?

  172. Yes, the huge blindspot in Mr. Unz’s theory, as with b at MoA, is that they can not go one step further and lay the blame at the feet of both the Chinese and Americans (at least at the sub-class of globalists within these two groups).

    崔bon?

    China has “shown” that violating lockdowns have worked, thus reaffirming in the urban elite in the U.S. (Democrats/liberal estab.) that yielding to a central authority is GOOD. This artificial phenomenon has greatly impacted the minds of our colonized youth.

    It also was the fatal blow to DJT’s presidency.

    Globalist enterprise gobbled up yet more market-share as brick-and-mortar are increasingly abandoned. These Big-Tech backed economic drivers exclusively back the Demonrats. Once again, we see a win-win for both the Chinese and American Globalists.

    Of course, for both b and Mr. Unz, it is impossible to think that there is no difference between our FP stance vis a vis China in a Trump-world and a post-Trump one.

    But this lack of insight can of course be traced to the conclusion in the mind’s of these two that there is absolutely no difference whether DJT is at the helm or not. This idea has permeated the minds of many of very astute and narrative-challenging individuals.

    In a sense, if you believe China was attacked by Americans with the virus, you will most likely be in the camp that DJT was a wolf in sheep’s clothing, another imperialist who wants to bring China to heel.

    But the stupidity of releasing a virus which would have surefire monumental (and unwanted) blowback to the U.S. seems a stretch in logic (regardless of how stupid the U.S. in reality is).

    So it seems that two possibilities arise and you may find yourself in most likely one of the two following camps (that is if you have a mainstream-skepticism):

    1) China is nationalist through and through and is reacting in a purely defensive mode wrt to covid unleashed upon them by western imperialists. In other words, they are the victims.

    2) the globalists in China and the U.S. released covid as a joint-endeavor to crush rising Nationalist-sentiment in the U.S. This had the added bonus of reaffirming the positive aspects of central control and making people more dependent on Big Tech.

    ...

    How I see it could be the latter theory is that any hostility for China from the Biden regime is exclusively to leverage the position of the administration class in the U.S., which are the sole profiters of this globalist arrangement. In other words, any military posturing against China is more or less theater under Biden, as his donor-class, the globalists, would not seek the destruction of their meal ticket.

    So in many ways, perhaps you could say that even if a joint-release of covid was sanctioned by both the Chinese and Americans, it stands to reason that perhaps China was acting yet still in its best interest (nationalism), knowing that America could never fully be trusted. In this way, you could then say that China is playing a very dangerous game by further empowering the western globalist class at the expense of its nationalists. Perhaps this was its only move to make?

    To echo many commenters above: China is still not to be trusted wrt Covid or anything else. Indeed, the best possible theory is that it was a joint-endeavor whereby the western globalists could under great delusion buy more time and where China could continue its extraction game with western wealth.

    • 同意: Thomasina
  173. @Wizard of Oz

    Your biggest subjective leap of faith into the totally unknown and unproven is that there are a small number of senior, powerful, but foolish and irresponsible rogue agents within (presumably) the intelligence community who would see it as in their interests to damage China economically with biowarfare attacks – but all without a shred of evidence as to who they might be or even that they exist. They would have to be remarkably insouciant about the ease with which China could retaliate on American agriculture at a time to suit them.

    The Dirt People who make the US a food superpower are with an unquenchable passion by our ruling trash. I’ll even throw out a JQ issue, diaspora Jews hold farming in extreme disdain (that’s of course not a historically Jewish thing, or hardly as big a factor in Israel from before its founding).

    Your first point stands. Blaming the huge blob of the US Deep State for something evil is generally credible and the more so as we see them operating openly doing evil things, like seizing Syria’s oil fields, or just outright refusing to end the forever war in Afghanistan. The latest is a claim of US troops “pillaging” Syrian grain silos, and I doubt there are very many of us here who believe they wouldn’t casually cross such a line.

    But the Deep State is made up of many organizations, obviously has a number of factions, that was the point of Russia’s observation during Obama’s reign the US was “not agreement capable,” any deals they made were undone by another faction of our Deep State. And/or see for example the claims the CIA and Pentagon were funding and supplying different and competing factions in Syria.

    So which faction(s) might do this? An obvious start is where you think the virus originated from.

  174. @The Man Who Comes Around

    Covid只是一场针对美国现任总统的“深州色彩革命”的一个方面。 对中国和伊朗的秘密介绍是假装。

  175. Noble74 说:

    恩兹先生

    感谢您的这篇文章。

    I agree the explanation that fits best (although not the only possible explanation) for what has transpired regarding COVID-19, is that it was genetically engineered in the US and then “planted” in Wuhan.

    However, I don’t agree that the inevitable blow-back of the disease reaching the US was unforeseen or dismissed by those who created it. I suspect the main reason for introducing COVID-19 into China was, ultimately, to ensure the downfall of President Trump – i.e. to maximize the chances of him losing his re-election bid. It’s reasonable to assume that modelling would have been done to predict how quickly the virus would spread from China to the US, and how long it would take to spread widely on the US mainland. After all, the economy was booming pre-COVID and that’s often the determining factor in any President’s re-election bid. With the 2020 vote having been so close (assuming it wasn’t rigged), I don’t think there was any way Trump would have lost if the pandemic in the US had never occurred.

    • 同意: CelestiaQuesta
    • 回复: @CelestiaQuesta
  176. Anon[168]• 免责声明 说:

    Recent posts by George Webb support the thesis advanced by Mr. Unz. He has recently
    been re-instated on Twitter so it would be wise to have a look before his next disappearance.
    His recent research points to biowarfare locations at Fort Detrick in N. Carolina and the
    Erasmus lab in Rotterdam as likely sources of this plague. It was always suspicious that,
    out of nowhere, Iran was hard hit immediately.

    • 回复: @Wild Man
    , @RobinG
    , @lysias
  177. @Adam Grant

    “Interesting that the virus is most severe for white males with male pattern baldness”

    In the UK, it’s more severe in Sub-Saharans and Asians (subcontinental type). For any given age/infirmity/demographic profile, though, it’s more severe in males.

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    As I wrote a while back

    种族顺序(就从CV19患病的可能性增加而言)是

    种族:非洲黑人
    种族:加勒比
    种族:其他种族
    种族:其他亚洲人
    种族:印度
    种族:孟加拉
    种族:巴基斯坦
    种族:中国人

    以白色为基准。

    尽管年龄和BMI分别是#1和#2,但他们离危险因素仅一步之遥。 做一个猪油屁股确实很危险。 唐斯是#3。

    但是,例如,非洲黑人比“ Chemo A级”患者面临的风险更高,而印度裔比“慢性肾脏病第4期”或“肝硬化”的患者面临的风险更大。

    有趣的是,孟加拉/巴基斯坦的风险要低于印第安人。

    The source is here – note that they leave out sex, so males can’t be bumped up the rankings to get vaccinated.

    https://digital.nhs.uk/coronavirus/risk-assessment

  178. skrik 说:
    @Chrisnonymous

    However, with the exception of the possible veracity of the recent Australian revelation of CCP PLA plans to destroy America’s healthcare system with a Coronavirus in 2015

    Can you cite a credible source/citation for this, please? thnx in advance

    • 回复: @quark
  179. @Wade

    然而,奥巴马总统强迫福西(Fauci)停止在美国进行的GOF研究,该研究被他的前任布什(GW Bush)认定为非法。 尽管有美国官员的正式命令,富奇还是顽固地将其业务转移到了武汉,这应该让我们停顿一下,以询问富奇的赞助者是谁,以及他们的动机是什么。

    来自内存,但不受内存支持 当前的Wikipedia文章,美国已施加两项 临时 暂停执行功能研究。 有据可查的相关项目是奥巴马政府在2014年实施的,并终止了“至少18个项目”,尽管几个月后这些项目中有XNUMX个项目获得了豁免。

    我不认为这项豁免包括武汉病毒学研究所(WIV)的“蝙蝠女”正在合作的豁免,而关于WIV和Saint Fauci的最新报道则声称他没有为获得功能研究获得资金通过了对危险等提议进行审查的强制性委员会。

    • 谢谢: Wade
  180. Wild Man 说:
    @Wade

    Yes ….. the hypothesis that you outline here, is a lot more rational, than Mr. Unz’s hypothesis, in my opinion. The CCP was played by the anti-true-west globalist cabal (by the likes of Peter Daszak, by Fauci most probably, and by Bill Gates, likely as well). This anti-true-west globalist cabal features a 25% Jewish ethnic component (100x more than expected, per-capita-wise, and note that no other ethnic group comes even close, punching-over-weight-wise, within this anti-true-western agenda).

    The CCP can’t release Dr. Shi’s records, because that will show that said gain-of-function work was performed on Dr. Shi’s covid-2-type lab-grown-cultures. Both the CCP and the western populaces (and Trump too in my estimation) have been played by Globalism Inc., over this covid narrative. As such, the CCP can’t help us true-westerners (without the CCP incurring the possibility that war would therefore soon ensue thereafter …. i.e.- the CCP is well aware that the powers of anti-true-westernism has usurped the west, quite some time ago now).

    It’s the same Globalist Inc. tactics as always. Same tactics as the Climate Change Catastrophism false narrative uses. And these such Globalism Inc. tactics features a compromising of anybody that would otherwise want to tell the truth (this ‘compromising’ can be achieved by way of a huge variety of means, depending on the context).

  181. @supertjx

    The Chinese presumably aren’t pointing fingers at the US because they know the US has a much bigger global megaphone. If China trumpets the truth, the US can drown that out by hyper-trumpeting its prefabricated cover story lie blaming China and the WIV. Such a war of accusations would greatly increase the chances of a shooting war, which China doesn’t want. If there is no war, China with its unstoppable economy eventually wins by default; whereas the only way the US can even dream of hanging on to its #1 world power status is through pre-emptive war.

    This is geopolitics 101: the current #1 power almost always wages pre-emptive war against the rising #2 power. See Graham Allison.

  182. Curmudgeon 说:
    @Avalanche

    On July 15, 2019, the CDC shut down Fort Detrick for massive safety violations regarding containment and tracking biological agents. The “vaping illnesses” had started about a month previously, which, presents, symptomatically the same as COVID19. The US Military released a statement saying nothing escaped, and no one questions it. According to Dr. Judy Mikovits, while she was at Fort Detrick, the lab was working on forcing the Ebola virus into the human genome. Ebola outbreaks happen where?

    [更多]

    The CDC has admitted that it has never isolated the virus. The Canadian government has admitted that it hasn’t isolated the virus. Ifyou haven’t isolated it, how do you know if it is causing a problem? How do you develop a vaccine for something you don’t know exists?

    Frank Plummer, who was in the middle of the SARS epidemic, questioned whether it was caused by a virus, as new patients didn’t have the “virus” and the most severe damage was being done after the viral load had dropped, contrary to what was expected. Plummer, who was one of many Corona virus patent holders, including several in the US, conveniently dropped dead in Kenya in February 2020. Shortly thereafter, Covid19 was being called SARS2.
    You can’t patent nature. Pathogens that are patented are bioweapons. We live among psychopaths that make Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper look sane.
    An attack “against” America? Why not? But I would be looking a lot closer to home for the perps, starting in Davos.

    • 同意: CelestiaQuesta
    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  183. I think covid is a planned and deliberately engineered psyop…..Gates had a simulation months before…..the clips coming out of China were obviously staged…..people dropping in the streets and convulsing…..all of those clips have disappeared…..the elite hides medications known to be effective…..lying about the death rates…..push the weird untested “vaccine.”

    It was not only a way to ruin the booming Trump economy….but also a way to further the goals of the zionist Great Reset/NWO….to atomize populations….implement control protocols, etc.

    Keep in mind that for the paranoid lunatics running the show, white people gathered at a Nascar race looks like anudda shoah.

  184. anon[926]• 免责声明 说:
    @That Would Be Telling

    As of Jan, 2021 Gates owned 242,000 acres.
    Not insignificant.

    Comparing to Rhode Island or your county deceives like Israelis/Yid deceive.

    https://marketrealist.com/p/how-much-farmland-bill-gates-owns/

    How much is the acreage increased each week?

    • 巨魔: That Would Be Telling
  185. You need to go back earlier to 2002 when SARS 1 was released. SARS 1 originated from China just as SARS 2 aka COVID-19. The CCP have been playing with bio weapons and gain of function twenty years ago or longer. I caught the SARS 1 virus 14 months before SARS 2 (C19) was released. I believe they were testing SARS in a few select area’s to determine its potential for host replicating abilities.

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    I had gone to three medical professionals who were unable to determine what was ailing me. It wasn’t until I checked into emergency that further tests were done, and I was diagnosed with SARS 1, or maybe it was SARS 2 in beta test mode. Curious, after recovery, this thing seemed to have lasted six to eight weeks or longer, I started googling SARS. Today many of those links I bookmarked one year before SARS 2 (C19) have disappeared.
    I came to the conclusion that a global coverup had taken place, that a perfect storm had arrived for globalists entities to act now or forever lose their control. When you add up all the players, CCP world domination, Trump America First, Brexit exits from EU states, global mass repopulation, open borders, tech censorship, Critical Race Theory, BLM/Antifa, Gun confiscation legislation, defund police, opioid addiction, declaring whites Supremacists and domestic terrorists, ad nauseam, they all colluded together to take out Trump and whites wherever they be, and any fallout from global lockdowns ruled as collateral damage for their One World, One Gender CultMarx Caliphate.

    Between noise and echos, dark and light, truth is there if you look hard enough.

    https://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2003-07/sars-where-did-it-come/

  186. @St-Germain

    发现。

    But why do you call USA the USSA?

    • 回复: @gsjackson
    , @St-Germain
  187. anon[926]• 免责声明 说:
    @israel shamir

    是的,我赞成这种解释。

  188. @israel shamir

    绝对。

    共产主义中国袭击了自由世界。

    天安门广场大屠杀2.0☠️

  189. follyofwar 说:
    @stevennonemaker88

    Seems quite a coincidence that more young people are reportedly getting sick with and dying from Covid at precisely the same time as millions of people have been dutifully getting their Covid vaccines. Could there be something to that SHEDDING hypothesis that Mike Whitney and others have been warning about?

    • 同意: FB
  190. I read Nicholas Wade’s article on Zero Hedge and all the rest on UNZ Review. What intrigues me is how you convince a spook to release the pathogens. Isn’t he/she another version of a suicide bomber? Because leaving the pathogens to infect the populace without a trace requires expertise.
    Anybody knows??

    • 同意: That Would Be Telling
    • 回复: @lysias
    , @Badger Down
  191. @Desert Fox

    Covid-19 is a mythical conception of the demented satanic minds of the globalists

    同意。

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    As some have been saying since the beginning, all these debates (about origin, and statistics, and cases, and blah, blah, blah) are deflections. And most of these deflections are deliberately planted and cultivated by paid infiltrators in comment threads. This site is filled with them.

    We are drowning in lies, a mind-control exercise on a global scale.

    • 谢谢: Trinity
    • 回复: @Desert Fox
  192. @Noble74

    This globalist cabal are truly the most evil forces to have ever existed. We are witnessing evil reptilian minded overlords hellbent on the enslavement of civilization.
    The sad part is we know (((who))) is behind it.

  193. @Yee

    There’s nothing ‘civilian’ in China. The Party and thus the military controls everything.

  194. Geowhizz 说:
    @BlackFlag

    还是像索罗斯这样的人物?

  195. FB 说: • 您的网站

    一些想法...

    First, it is good to see that the fanatical religiosity about the virus coming only from nature is being challenged in the mainstream discourse in a very serious way. That story was pure bullshit from the getgo, yet all the media lemmings quickly made it holy writ.

    Second, what about the huge dislocations and upheavals that the pandemic has caused at home, in the west? This is not addressed at all in Mr Unz’s analysis, except for a short boilerplate about how the perps that seeded the virus simply didn’t expect major blowback at home.

    But this does not square at all with the massive developments with economic shutdown, lockdowns, mask-wearing, social distancing, and most importantly universal vaccination with experimental vaccines based on unproven gene therapy. [Not to mention the massive money printing accompanying all of this].

    Does this mean that the biowarfare conspirators simply miscalulated…or was the establishment in fact spring-loaded to launch into a far-reaching social engineering agenda whose purpose and motivation seems more murky with each passing day?

    Using Mr. Unz’s own logic about unlikely ‘coincidences’ it would seem rather far fetched, to say the least, that all of this just sort of came about of its own inertia, as an unforeseen consequence of a few neocon plotters trying to throw a virus at China and Iran.

    I’m going to be the last guy to buy into the flu hoax thing—Covid is definitely a real disease that has killed many, not at a very high rate of course, and mostly the old and already sick, but many highly credible experts are presenting devastating critiques of the chosen response measures, especially the vaccines, but also all the rest of the measures. It is certainly enough to question an underlying agenda—whatever that may be, since it is far from clear at this point.

    I think that is the real story at this point. I think most open-minded folks can surely accept that this virus started as a bioweapon, and we salute Mr Unz for his work on that score. But the story is far from complete. In fact the bioweapon hypothesis, likely as it may be, is simply the starting point.

    Is the mess we are in now just a case of honest mismanagement by well-intentioned people trying to wrestle this virus to the ground? Or is there a method to the madness?

    Certainly the vicious shutting down of highly expert dissenters, of which there is no shortage, does not point to any honest effort to combat a novel epidemic, since such an approach requires open and forthright debate of 所有 scientific points, not an enforced orthodoxy on carefully selected ‘scientific’ factlets.

    I think Mr Unz might consider probing the next big question—is there in fact an agenda behind all of these unprecedented social measures? And what might that agenda be?

    • 同意: Jazman
    • 回复: @skrik
  196. FvS 说:

    1.)如果是对中国的攻击,那就完全是失败。

    a。)他们的经济几乎没有受到影响,并且关闭了香港民主运动的抗议活动。

    b。)中国使用独裁检疫措施在国内消灭该病毒,这对任何人都不应该感到惊讶。

    c。)病毒最终扩散到了世界各地,在政治上根本无法采取类似的专制检疫措施。

    d。)除了相对于总人口而言微不足道的死亡人数之外,关于中国的唯一受到损害的是中共在西方已经很贫穷的声誉。 病毒的自然起源也是最广泛的理论(由西方媒体传播),它免除了中共的责任,如果属实的话。

    2.)在大流行初期,那些从中国出来的,死于街头的人们的录像带是怎么回事? 为什么这一切在世界其他地方都没有发生? 该病毒离开中国后会发生神奇的突变吗?

    3.)受益最大的是中国(香港抗议和西方经济遭受重创),希望特朗普撤职的人以及刚刚变得更加富裕的全球主义富豪。

    • 同意: Jeffrey A Freeman
    • 回复: @Rdm
    , @emersonreturn
  197. @BlackFlag

    I’ve been looking into this for a while and there does seem to have been a lot of high-level political Iranian-Chinese interaction around that time.

    • 回复: @Dieter Kief
  198. Wild Man 说:
    @Anon

    OK ….. so what I think you are saying is the Globalism Inc. has prevailed, with respect to the unfolding of their false covid narrative, by way of, firstly, getting the Chinese, gullible-like, to culture covid-2-type virus in human-like tissue, in Wuhan, and then to perform gain of function technologies on such, all the while having access to said Chinese-lab strains, probably taking such back to the U.S. to culture in U.S. labs, … which indeed could be the actual cryptic soruce of the Wuhan outbreak, thusly blackmailing the CCP into silence and cover-up, so that the true agenda behind these Globalism Inc. moves, can continue to unfold unimpeded ….. and as one of the long-term goals of this Globalist cabal, is to usurp the hegemonic power that the U.S.-proper has enjoyed since World War 2, … wreaking havoc on the American people and the American economy, to help eventuate that, is all part of their plan.

    Is that what you mean? If so , then yes …. I agree that, that is likely what this whole covid thing is actually all about.

    Mr. Unz gets it mostly right. But his hypothesis comes up short when he fails to show that such actions by American players are going to be found to actually be actions by American traitors to Globalism Inc.

  199. Tony_0pmoc 说:

    I very rarely post here, but I read Ron Unz’s blog nearly every day. I think the first time, I posted here was about a year ago, about this very subject COVID, because at the time, I thought I was the first one to get it, in the UK.

    I knew about The World Military games in Wuhan (for some strange reason, the UK did not participate) I knew about the closure of Fort Detrick. I saw the very first quite obviously faked photos of people “dropping dead” in Wuhan surrounded by people in white Hazmat suits, and also noticed, that it appeared to be midsummer in Wuhan, and checked the climate, which is not that different from the UK.

    罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)显然是我非常敬重的人,他已经进行了大量的研究,并制作了大量的沙拉,我相信他这样做的确是诚实的,没有任何动机。 他只是想接近真相,我对此表示钦佩。 我只是不同意他的分析。

    我现在不知道COVID是否实际上与以前的冠状病毒,感冒或流感有明显不同。 也许可以,但是我不确定。

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    It did not need to be a manufactured virus. That wasn’t the point. The point was the propaganda to terrify the entire world, and in that it was unbelievably successful. The propaganda, which I believe probably originated in the UK, the original source of both the Malthusians and the Tavistock Institute. I have been trained, only down to leadership courses, the companies I worked for sent me on in both Behaviour Analysis, and Behaviour Modification. What totally amazed me, is that this stuff works. I was taught the techniques to modify the behaviour of the staff who worked for me. It worked, and I did not approve, and refused to go on any further courses. It is not down to me to change other people’s behaviours. I recognised the potential evil of such techniques, being used by evil people on a mass scale.

    And I am convinced that COVID is the refinement of these techniques, and The Brainwashing has successfully been applied to the majority of the world’s population, when they have regular access to a TV screen.

    COVID是一种脑病毒。 这是有害的,因为它会改变您的大脑,并且您的大脑会控制您的身体。 如果您认为自己会生病,那么很有可能会生病。

    然后,我监视了最明显的统计数据损坏情况。 如果您不了解这一点,那么您就一直在看电视,看报纸,但实际上并没有注意实际情况。

    The real virus, is the vaccines. They can be controlled. A maufactured or wild virus, or biological attack, cannot be controlled. It is just as likely to kill off the people who originated it (who obviously aren’t stupid) as everyone else.

    The vaccines, meanwhile can be very closely controlled, with regards to their content, from eg almost completely benign (like a glass of very week shandy) to extremely powerful – like 98% Polish Vodka. Good luck if you can survive a litre of that.

    我像Mike Yeadon博士一样确信这是世界人口减少事件,而且由于几乎每个人都仍在接受接种疫苗的计划,因此除非有更多的人真正醒来,否则它很有可能会起作用,包括Ron Unz和Gilad Atzmon等非常有才华的人,我也非常尊重他们,并且看过演奏萨克斯风。

    托尼

  200. @stevennonemaker88

    罗恩是对的。

    Excess death data across a large number of countries prove Covid is dangerous and fatal, mostly for elderly and frail.

    I am hearing daily first-hand reports from friends and family in India. Death and devastation are real and incredibly sad.

    And that’s just the immediate loss. “Long Covid” is real too, especially neurological damage.

    All estimates on total impact on life-years lost because of this bioweapon are likely to be under-estimates, not over-estimation.

    Just because fear porn MSM exaggerated fatality rates does not mean Covid is “just like flu” or a “hoax”.

    SC2 is a dangerous and meticulously designed bio-weapon, and likely there are several variations of this weapon whose deployment can be controlled by the same forces that sponsored the research and design.

    Please do not minimize the greatest crime against humanity.

    • 回复: @stevennonemaker88
  201. RobinG 说:
    @Anon

    Ft. Detrick is in Frederick, Maryland. Is George Webb saying there’s another one in N.C.?

    • 回复: @Minnesota Mary
  202. anonym25 说:
    @Derer

    That biowarfare was meant to bring down Trump and China, both at the same time. Trump was asking the Chinese to let a team of US scientists during december 2019 and january 2020, but the Chinese declined. They thought that it was brought by US military during the Wuhan Military Games which it is as false as believing that it leaked from the Wuhan laboratory. Both Xi Jin Ping and Trump were being baited to fight one another.

    The reality is that this bioweapon was targeting, first of all, the elite forces participating at the Wuhan military games. There is a CGTN article written in september 2019 stating that the Chinese authorities were looking for clues of a possible coronavirus-like pathogen to be introduced during those games. Also, there was the claim of a French military athlete, Elodie Clouvel, that she and a lot of athletes of her delegation had contracted Covid-19 but no one had idea at that time that it was Covid-19. They only thought they had caught a severe case of flu.

  203. @greencrow

    In India, the unit value of a false positive is about equal to that of One Bitcoin.

  204. SafeNow 说:
    @Alden

    Yes, the reverse-sprinkling scenario. One weakness of sprinkling is that transmission by surface contact is extremely unusual. It normally takes human-to-human close-proximity breathing. And, there are other circumstantial factors, such as there are no videos or still images of the US team.
    And yes, agreed, we’ll never know.

    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  205. Wild Man 说:
    @Tony_0pmoc

    你的评论:

    “I have been trained, only down to leadership courses, the companies I worked for sent me on in both Behaviour Analysis, and Behaviour Modification. What totally amazed me, is that this stuff works. I was taught the techniques to modify the behaviour of the staff who worked for me.”

    Interesting. Can you summarize the methods?

  206. @Realist

    No, not nonsensical at all.
    Perhaps a bit more sophisticated perceptiveness is required to grasp the message conveyed.
    Many here will comprehend it.
    (I’m inclined to say, “take your pills but, I won’t.)

    • 哈哈: Realist
  207. anonym25 说:
    @Tony_0pmoc

    Because this bioweapon came from the UK’s Porton Down specially targeting the elite soldiers at those military games which is the reason why the UK didn’t participate in those games. The Russians clearly stated during early february 2020 that this bioweapon came from Porton Down. A march 2020 Daily Mail article clearly picked up on that.

  208. Elsewhere 说:
    @anon

    Gold box for this comment.

  209. @Godfree Roberts

    We also know that the CDC found that Covid-19 was in the US before it was in China, agreeing with findings in Italy, Spain, and France.

    Having had Covid here in British Columbia in January 2020 just after a reported care home outbreak in neighboring Washington State (it was a flu-like infection with headache, fever and prolonged period of congestion, but not flu, since as is well known, there was no flu in 2020), it is clear that the premise of Mr. Unz’s article, namely, that the World’s first Covid infections occurred in China, is as you infer, wrong. That being the case, the entire article really makes no sense.

    • 同意: Rdm
    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
  210. @Tony_0pmoc

    托尼,你好
    Have always enjoyed your O/T comments at OffG.
    This is one of the best comments I have read as your humility in describing your experience with CoVid1984 puts the arrogance and hubris of many commenters in this site IN ITS PLACE.

    The crux of the biscuit is the lack of Bull Shit Detector on most people (effect of the “virus”), and those that think they are intelligent in our Western narcissistic society love to go for complexity! Reflects on the values:

    If there is a choice between “new tech” and behaviour change, Western narcissistic society always goes for tech, and LOL tries to use tech for behaviour change!

  211. Timmy 说:

    A> China did it intentionally. They start by releasing it to their own people to cover their tracks and they have a long history of wiping out Millions for the greater good. The virus is designed to have minimal impact on Chinese/SE Asians, so the whole overreaction early was a cover and a bit of insurance just in case it wasn’t.

    B> The West did it intentionally. Designer viruses has been a thing for decades and the West has a long history of evil acts (nuclear, biological, chemical). And a contempt for the worthless eaters, so taking everybody down a notch is perfectly fine.

    C> They are working together. This is all part of the great reset.

    It’s all one big club and you and me ain’t in it.

  212. Rdm 说:
    @FvS

    Let’s say this video below is nothing to do with the virus. But it happened. There’s also a new kind of flu happening somewhere. Some lunatics at the basement link them altogether and make it as if there’s gonna be deadly flu wave coming.

    [更多]

    重播几次。 请记住,它与病毒无关。 这一事件几乎没有使新闻成为媒体。

    • 回复: @Jeffrey A Freeman
  213. @some_loon

    The Chicoms may now figure their best response is to shrug it off while letting the west engage in self-harm.

    What you call “self-harm” seems to have been the purpose of the exercise.

    As Prince Charles said, echoing Charles Schwab of the World Economic Forum:

    “We have a golden opportunity to seize something good from this crisis — its unprecedented shockwaves may well make people more receptive to big visions of change,” he said.

    “As we move from rescue to recovery, we have a unique but rapidly shrinking window of opportunity to learn lessons and reset ourselves on a more sustainable path. It is an opportunity we have never had before and may never have again.”

    While the consequences of Covid are undoubtedly seen as harmful by the mass of humanity, the fact that they will most probably make you poorer is seen as an unmitigated good by the very rich people who direct policy.

  214. Rubicon 说:

    “…….the University of Washington’s authoritative Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) now suggesting that our domestic death-toll has already exceeded 900,000……”

    We are fairly sure that the above institution is a Bill GATES institution up in Seattle, Washington.
    If that is the case, we would be remiss if we didn’t point out to Mr. Unz that YOU CAN NOT RELY on anything coming from Bill Gates mouth, nor from his minions of “YES” folks.

    Do discount this source as it is illegitimate.

  215. @Curmudgeon

    The CDC has admitted that it has never isolated the virus.

    This is a gross misinterpretation of a sentence in their manual for their test which was indeed developed before the US had their first culture, that’s one of the neat things about genetics, it can be pure information. Specifically the publishing on January 10th of genetic sequences of the virus in Western databases, the first unauthorized by the CCP and thus punished. Not sure the PRC has ever released any of their cultures, they didn’t in the first few months.

    Fast forward ten days and the CDC gets its first sample which tests positive and, well, let me just quote them, and note the page tells you how to get their finest cultures of the virus from the “Biodefense and Emerging Infections Research (BEI) Resources Repository,” assuming of course you meet the BEI’s requirements for access:

    * 20年2020月2日,美国疾病预防控制中心(CDC)收到了第一例报告为SARS-CoV-XNUMX感染的美国患者的临床样本。 CDC立即将标本放入细胞培养物中,以生长出足够数量的病毒进行研究。

    * 2年2020月2日,美国疾病预防控制中心(CDC)产生了足够的细胞培养中生长的SARS-CoV-XNUMX,可以分发给医学和科学研究人员。

    * 4年2020月2日,疾病预防控制中心将SARS-CoV-XNUMX运送到BEI资源库。

    * An 文章 discussing the isolation and characterization of this virus specimen is available in 新兴传染病.

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  216. anonym25 说:
    @BlackFlag

    On the contrary, it is the best way to carry out a sneak attack on China and Iran as well. It was the Iranian military delegation that brought the virus with them. It explains why a lot of high ranking politicians and military forces were dying from this virus during february 2020.

    • 回复: @Garliv
  217. Trinity 说:

    Good lawd, this thread is infested with (((trolls)))

  218. Tony_0pmoc 说:

    I worked in the computer industry for over 40 years.

    I just love the design of your blog.

    It’s one of the best I have ever come across, and many of your writers are completely awesome.

    I am not religious, and I am not Jewish, though I have never particularly had a problem with anyone’s Religious or Political views.

    [更多]

    I was brought up as a Roman Catholic, but gave Religion up at the age of 15, cos I preferred Girls. However, I do not understimate, my Christian upbringing. I used to be an altar boy, and loved the Latin Mass. At the time it was better than seeing a rock band, cos it was me on stage, and in the performance marching round the streets – sometimes with a Cross, or one of these smoky things with charcoal and incense in a Thurible.

    Unfortunately, I couldn’t play guitar. I tried, and still keep trying, but I have no talent with a musical
    instrument, but I am extremely thankful, for the people I have met throughout my life, from many countries in the world who can.

    I just Love Music – especially Live Music.

    My wife and I used to travel a lot, before this COVID nonsense, and hope to do again, if we can reclaim our planet back.

    She was brought up a Catholic Girl too, but I didn’t know her when I was 15, or we would have got into big trouble much too young .

    托尼

  219. @RobinG

    我认为北卡罗来纳大学教堂山分校还有另一个实验室

    \

  220. @follyofwar

    Seems quite a coincidence that more young people are reportedly getting sick with and dying from Covid at precisely the same time as millions of people have been dutifully getting their Covid vaccines. Could there be something to that SHEDDING hypothesis that Mike Whitney and others have been warning about?

    Mike Whitney’s shedding hypothesis

    [更多]
    is that these vaccines are “leaky” vs. “sterilizing,” and the evidence we have so far is the latter for the mRNA vaccines. His claim “no one seems to understand the correlation between mass vaccination and the short-term uptick in fatalities” is ludicrous, too many people either assume the vaccination is effective before it possibly can be, eight days is I think is the minimum for the first jab, fourteen days is the standard, and do stupid things like throw a party five days after, or assume that the vaccination campaign has a much quicker effect on transmission than it can and loosen up their precautions early.

    Now the one jab version of the Janssen vaccine is concerning, it’s intended to be the very most effective single dose vaccine possible (they’re also testing two doses eight weeks apart), the Phase III trail’s primary endpoint is preventing moderate and severe disease, preventing disease is a secondary one. Useful for the Third World and populations hard to get two jabs into like the homeless or those terrified by needles. But especially with our now vast experience with mRNA vaccines, and their turning out to be easier to bulk manufacture than ones that require growth in cell cultures, not a vaccine I would generally recommend for a person, or a country that can handle the more delicate mRNA vaccines.

    Also be very sure to check the numbers behind screaming headlines about kids getting COVID-19, surely I shouldn’t have to point out their use as propaganda?

  221. Malla 说:
    @GreatSocialist

    因此,我们的德里克堡(Fort Detrick)可能偶然或过失地释放了Covid-19,但它并没有摧毁中国,而是首先强奸了美国(特朗普最喜欢的短语),而现在却强奸了印度。

    印度情报部门报道了中巴针对印度的秘密生物战。


    北中国炭疽病情图| 针对印度的生物战
    据报道,中国和巴基斯坦之间已经与武汉病毒研究所达成了建立生物战能力的协议。


    冠状病毒是中国秘密的生物战武器吗? 印度今天
    以色列研究人员丹尼·肖厄姆(Danny Shoham)似乎声称冠状病毒是作为生物战在武汉制造的。

    Now I personally do not believe in the above. In India, “Chinese Imperialist Demons” are blamed for everything.

    • 回复: @As I see it
    , @Bann
  222. G J T 说:

    Covid-19不存在。 时期。 PCR检测是欺诈性的,每个死者都死于流感病毒,其他可能使老年人丧生的常见疾病或死于“疫苗”本身。

    [更多]

    Covid-19是一项计划中的活动,可实现多种目的,其中包括:

    -从中产阶级到寄生虫阶层的大量财富转移
    -让公众接受并规范对他们的自由和基本权利的前所未有的限制
    -屈辱仪式
    -迈向实施全面的数字身份识别系统的下一步,该系统最终将被用作更具压迫性的社会信用系统
    -造成政治和种族紧张与冲突的其他根源,同时也使越来越幻灭的民众的注意力从实际上对政权构成威胁的行动主义类型转移开来
    -增强恐惧和恐惧气氛,在9/11之后全力以赴
    -出售根本不是疫苗的“疫苗”,而是一种实验性的基因疗法,当一切都说完之后,可能会杀死数百万人,而上帝知道其他什么吗?
    -我们全面了解生活的各个方面的借口

    还有其他。 这实际上是一次测试,目的是了解他们实际上在没有阻力或几乎没有阻力的情况下能够实现的目标。 Covid-19是100%伪造的,它使全球犹太人和技术专家制度受益的所有方式都应该使之显而易见。 请注意,世界舞台上的所有主要玩家,在许多情况下表面上都是敌人,彼此之间步调一致。 每个人都设法将分歧抛在一边的那一次! 多么令人心动!

    您正在玩。

  223. cranc 说:
    @Tony_0pmoc

    我同意你的托尼。 这篇文章犁了一条熟悉的沟,重点是病毒的起源,而不是反应的影响,宣传节,空旷/安静的医院,审查制度或医学的腐败。 您的观点一次又一次地被Unz的其他文章所取代,它们被忽略了,全球范围内对Covid响应的广泛分析也被忽略了。 为什么? 我不知道。

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    (https://www.pandata.org/a-critical-analysis-of-the-covid-response/?fbclid=IwAR0B73qAvTYtbI-o_a9t5CdgYkd-86qS0h8Lbwfi4MIWoVHYwiz7vFU6M_k)
    Unz辩称,该病毒的目的是造成经济破坏,但实际上,政府的封锁已经造成了这种后果。 这一事件的最大后果是管理实验疫苗以及结合中央银行数字货币的数字身份证(VaxPass)。 这些特征都没有,甚至在“进攻中国”假说中也没有得到承认。
    正如您所说,人口减少的角度与病毒无关,但与注射有关:

  224. Malla 说:
    @GreatSocialist

    这些更多

    Indians blame China for the outbreak, some even think it is Beijing’s biological weapon

    中国武器装备科维迪进行生物战? | 新闻X

    [更多]

    印度与毁灭性的Covid第二波斗争是否正在计划中的生物战争?

    在南印度语泰米尔语中,因此单击无用。 幸运的是,他们的程序用英文简短解释了
    “The reasons for this can be seen in the fact that by the time the first corona wave was over, India had made astonishing progress in all fields, including medicine and economics.Many countries that did not come forward to help during the previous epidemic are now coming forward to help.This mainly includes India’s enemies China and Pakistan.During the reign of former President Donald Trump in the United States, pro-black revolutions escalated and created conditions against Donald Trump to defeat him in the next election.To be precise, Donald Trump was the one who expressed opposition to the many countries in the world that implicitly carry out drug robberies, oil robberies and arms robberies, or support these mafia gangs. It is believed that even these medical mafias may be responsible for the spread of corona infection.The same crowd that ousted Donald Trump is targeting India today.The global drug trade is estimated at \$ 5-6 trillion a year.Of this, at least \$ 1.25 trillion worth of vaccine trade was cut by India.500 billion worth of vaccine and helmet trade cut by India.
    造成这种情况的第一个原因是印度的所有疫苗都是在当地生产的,这使敌对国家对印度是否能自给自足地产生了怀疑。在未来的两三年中,将有75,000-100000个电动汽车充电站投入使用。印度将开始在印度建造这种飞机,这将使通常使用的石油量减少30%,因此全球石油销售给获利国家造成了巨大损失,印度还开始出口LCA和Tejas等战斗机,这将成为武器的挫折如果要制止印度的这种事态发展,就必须在印度制造内部混乱局面。我们需要为印度增加支出,他们试图在边界上建立战争状态并增加武器成本。
    But this was in response to India’s progress in domestic arms production.They then sought peace on the frontiers.
    India is currently home to millions of infiltrators from people living in Assam and West Bengal.China has always had the intention of creating civil unrest within India.So now this second corona wave may be a biological war planned and carried out by China.An attempt to exaggerate the shortcomings in India and undermine the confidence of the indigenous people in the government.There is a high probability that this second wave will be China’s conspiracy to block India’s growth along with global mafias.”

  225. @SafeNow

    Yes, the reverse-sprinkling scenario. One weakness of sprinkling is that transmission by surface contact is extremely unusual. It normally takes human-to-human close-proximity breathing.

    Quoting Rev. Spooner above:

    What intrigues me is how you convince a spook to release the pathogens. Isn’t he/she another version of a suicide bomber? Because leaving the pathogens to infect the populace without a trace requires expertise.

    If you have a culture of the virus, which of course you would if you brewed it up for this purpose, it wouldn’t be difficult to create small devices that would spread an aerosol of droplets containing the virus much like infected humans produce.

    Leaving time delayed devices and quickly picking them up before victims would start transmitting is obviously fraught with danger of being detected and leaving a smoking gun. Well, unless they self-destruct to the point they destroy both the apparatus inside and all the RNA left behind (see sewage monitoring including of old stored samples for an illustration that only fragments of the virus are needed for RT-PCR testing), but that would be pretty damned suspicious as well.

    Or the agent could be carrying the device; I suppose he could be plausibly protected by a very experimental vaccine (don’t say the mRNA ones are 仍然 in that stage, the most you can claim is that the testing is not yet sufficient), 在2017 we believed we’d cracked the problem with SARS type coronavirus vaccines to the point both BioNTech and Moderna were willing to start animal testing as the same time as human Phase I tests, a gamble which paid off fantastically.

    A simple protein based vaccine plus serological evidence of proper antibody production could give the putative masters of the infector agents confidence they wouldn’t get it. That’s pretty much required because otherwise it’s too easy for a delay in travel to allow them to infect others and leave a trail right back to home.

    • 回复: @SafeNow
  226. lysias 说:
    @Curmudgeon

    Vitamin D deficiency slows down the metabolism and increases appetite, which results in weight gain.

    I have broken this vicious cycle by taking Vitamin D supplements.

  227. lysias 说:
    @Anon

    Fort Detrick is in Frederick, Maryland, not in North Carolina. It has an annex in Silver Spring, MD.

  228. Wade 说:
    @israel shamir

    我无法理解为什么罗恩·乌恩斯(Ron Unz)甚至没有在他的任何作品中都提到《大重置》。 我有一个 对这个男人和他的美国Pravda系列的尊重。 我永远感谢他的努力。

    但是我必须承认,罗恩对WEF问题《大重置》一无所知,这是它臭名昭著的“ 2021年议程”文件的前身。 我希望他能花点时间对此发表评论,因为无论一个人是否认为世界经济论坛对这种大流行负有责任,要在不注意其宣布的目标以发起一场全面的全球共产主义革命的情况下就大流行发表评论是很困难的那里只有一个人,但他们被允许拥有任何财产。 完全从马口中得出的结论是,他们指望将COVID作为促成这种革命性盗窃和经济独裁统治的催化剂。

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    这样的事情在罗恩的操舵室中是正确的,即使只是嘲笑它是一种误导的理论。 他在肯尼迪国际机场的文章中对几乎所有可用的“谁做过”的理论进行了简短的思考,这给我留下了深刻的印象。 他指出,艾伦·杜勒斯(Allen Dulles)即将退休,准备开始在全国范围内进行巡回演讲以宣传他的书,而他的家人中的年轻成员正在从事公共服务职业(如果我没记错的话),这一点似乎很不可思议。他冒着带领暗杀肯尼迪行动的风险,只是为了报复被解雇。 我非常感谢您的见解。 他可能有同样正当的理由对WEF和《大重置》不屑一顾。 如果是这样,我将不胜感激他的来信。 一世 诚挚 希望HIS理论是正确的而不是我的。 这意味着,他们的能力不如我所担心的那样,他们的犯罪没有我所担心的那么周密,国际媒体的支持范围以及多个GMO的支持都还不那么完善,这给了我一些希望,希望事情能重回正轨。在不久的将来的某个时候有些相似的“正常现象”。

    我注意到,惠特尼·韦伯(Whitney Webb)的一篇文章显示,《世界经济论坛》现在预测恐怖分子“黑客”将面临财务崩溃。 如果发生这种情况,毫无疑问,克劳斯·施瓦布(Klaus Schwab)将随时准备“解决方案”,以保护我们免受再次发生的这种情况的影响。 毫无疑问,这些解决方案将使我们进一步按计划在2030年陷入技术官僚专政。

    如果这成为现实,我们中的任何人都能够无视WEF在大流行中的作用吗? 当然,即使罗恩也必须提一下。

    我希望我错了。

    • 同意: Kali
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @follyofwar
  229. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @anon

    罗恩(Ron)认为美国的反冲是意料之外的,有充分的理由不这样认为。 事实是,美国经济正在崩溃。

    回购市场在2019年XNUMX月冻结,西方金融体系即将崩溃或“重设”。

    答对了!

    这是一个叫Andrea Cecchi的研究员对这个问题的非常详尽的分析: 在正确的时间正确的病毒

    现在我记得迈克·惠特尼(Mike Whitney)在这些页面上讨论了回购崩溃(回溯到2019年),就在Covid罢工数月之前,但没人知道它可能意味着什么。

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    我不假装了解华尔街的“庞氏骗局”的运作方式,而且我认为除了寄生虫本身的顶级圈子之外,没有人真正做到这一点。 但是,切奇先生的演讲很有道理,并且简而言之涉及关闭全球对贷款的需求,以阻止利率上升,这将引爆金融衍生工具中超过四分之四的“中子弹”。 ,这是整个地球GDP的XNUMX倍。

    回购市场似乎是大型银行和资金持有者的“典当行”,他们去那里可以在需要即时现金时立即兑现国库券和其他票据。 显然,现金持有者不再愿意继续为该票据支付高价,这意味着该票据的潜在利息在上升。 一旦开始,其他货币市场的利率也会上升,然后中子弹就会出现。

    因此,策略是关闭大部分经济体,以简单地杀死对信贷的需求,并以此来降低利率。 该策略的第二部分是为银行和企业印制大量资金,以使它们得以维持生计。 在过去的一年中,我们已经看到了这两种策略。

    这就是我们到达Covid的方式:根据Cecchi的说法,美联储从2019年开始向该上市回购市场注入巨额资金,每天高达800亿美元,但它无法遏制出血。

    那是在2019年XNUMX月。然后是国际清算银行[BIS,中央银行的中央银行]发出的警报; 事情很快变得非常严重。

    然后在201月,您将制定XNUMX事件大流行“排练”,并制定游戏计划。 达沃斯世界经济论坛(WEF)会议将于XNUMX月召开,并且正蓬勃发展,此后,我们就开始了全球性的大流行和经济停滞。 Cecchi讲述了从XNUMX月的回购危机开始的时间表:

    几周过去了,银行不再互相信任,货币崩溃即将来临。 也许不清楚货币崩溃会发生什么。 这确实是最坏的情况。 在货币崩溃中,所有流动性消失了,因为它不再到达接收者手中。 如果发生这种情况,经济将完全停止。 就像一架坠毁的飞机:每个人都死了!

    银行的最高管理层与经济经理达成一致,一致认为,如果飞机坠毁, 他们必须避免造成完全的灾难,并制定解决方案,使飞机尽可能平稳地滑行。

    这并不是要挽救我们,他们肯定不会那么在意,而是挽救自己,而不是挽救自己,而不是挽救自己,而不是挽救包括银行在内的精英阶层像其他所有人一样偷偷摸摸地生活的范式。

    2019年201月,就像一个奇怪的巧合,在极有影响力的实体之间召开了一次峰会,名为EVENTXNUMX。在BIS敲响警钟后仅一个月

    在这里,您需要了解真正的风险是什么。 实际风险以利率上升为代表。 在整个接近或等于零的利率期间,衍生品泡沫已大大膨胀。 一切都由非常细的线程支持。

    基于通过债务获得的抵押品的虚拟交易的极高风险交易,几乎总是政府债券,它们具有非常不稳定的平衡。 如果由于某种原因利率开始上升,那么基本担保的价值就会下降,从而引发连锁反应,例如核爆燃,每个运营商都在寻找自己没有的流动性来弥补自己立即破产带来的损失。

    然后,仿佛奇迹般,Covid-19来到了。 那会发生什么呢?

    因此,授权中央银行进行无限干预。 稀薄的空气创造了数以千万计或数千亿美元的资金,这些资金不仅分配给银行,还直接注入大型公司。 通过这种非同寻常的措施,可减轻REPO市场中的缺陷。

    我们可以说该病毒确实在适当的时候到达了。 如果还没有到来,利率就会飙升,债务市场和衍生品的市场(国际清算银行(BIS)估计为2.5亿欧元)将爆炸成超新星,其比例远比发生的事情严重得多。 没有应对手段的危机。

    停止经济,因此对贷款和新流动性的银行的需求似乎是危害最小的解决方案.

    这是迄今为止我对Covid灾难背后可能的议程所见到的最有说服力的侦探工作。 他还对未来几年我们可以看到的情况做出了预测。 基本上,我们将学习在未来几年的紧缩政策中束紧腰带!

    谨慎地护理金融体系恢复稳定需要数年的时间。 这表明我们可能会完全坠毁!

    但是,尽管他们在幕后忙于非凡的财务纠纷,但我们可能仍未走出困境。 我们正处于一个非常艰难的时期,并将持续一段时间。 这将需要非常有能力的领导才能使我们通过。 [我没有屏住呼吸。]

    • 谢谢: Wade, Morton's toes
    • 回复: @Morton's toes
  230. @Adam Grant

    Chinese government tells Chinese people America did it. American government tells American people China did it. I think we’re all being played for chumps. I don’t even know if the overt USG has any independent agency. Ask yourself this: who’s responsible for what Joe Biden reads on his teleprompter? This is a clue that everyone knows deep down something they don’t want to think about.

  231. si1ver1ock 说:

    The Truth is out there . . . .

  232. lysias 说:
    @Rev. Spooner

    I suspect a high blood level of Vitamin D (which can be achieved by taking supplements) confers immunity against most respiratory infections. I have yet to read of a single case of covid mortality or hospitalization — or even just of covid infection — in a person with a high blood level of Vitamin D.

    A properly prepared spreader may not be taking much of a risk.

  233. gsjackson 说:
    @Jeffrey A Freeman

    In case St-G doesn’t weigh back in, let me speculate that he is noting the similarities between the current USA and the USSR, especially during Covid Crazy Time. It does sort of seem like, say, September of 1917. The totalitarians have launched the decisive campaign, and whether or not they gain complete control I suppose isn’t yet decided.

  234. Garliv 说:
    @anonym25

    It was the Iranian military delegation that brought the virus with them

    If this is true, then it does reinforce military games hypothesis as origin. I tend to imagine that China, or anyone else, would grade very low probabilities of being attacked via sneak release of biowarfare agent by anyone; leave alone by a civilized western country. And that is probably why it succeeded. I mean if countries were to make this kind of biowarfare as “highly likely” imagine what would follow as countries outdo each other.

    Interesting is how Chinese intend to react IF they seriously believe US attacked them with a biowarfare agent.

    • 回复: @anonym25
  235. Gizmo880 说:
    @Anonymous

    I have been under no pretense about our ruling class since at least the early 2000’s when it became obvious that 9/11 was a False Flag and our Government and others were involved, and that this was used as an excuse for almost all of the evil-doing our rulers have perpetrated on the rest of the world since then.

    As for the Chinese, they have no more benefitted their people than our leaders have benefitted ours with rapid economic growth. Only time will tell if it leads to a sustainable and prosperous future for their people. One could argue that this as of now short term benefit to the Chinese people is just a bi-product of Chinese leadership having no other choice but to become Capitalistic if they wanted to be the worlds preeminent power. Even the hardest core Chinese Communist Party official had to acknowledge the need to embrace capitalism whole-heartedly. That hasn’t changed the fact that they are still extremely authoritarian in nature and barely removed ideologically from the Cultural Revolution. If you think life under the Chinese Communist Party would be benevolent then in my opinion you are being extremely naive.

    • 回复: @Anon
  236. SafeNow 说:
    @That Would Be Telling

    “Or the agent could be carrying the device”

    My thought is that the Covid-nebulizing device would exactly resemble an asthma inhaler. The agent would clear customs carrying multiple devices, together with a doctor’s letter explaining that this patient has an atypical case of asthma — one requiring frequent doses of inhalent.

    (Speaking of nebulizing – update on my previous posts about inhaling scotch vapors to disinfect Covid in the nasopharynx. In Spain, a trial using ethanol recently passed phase 1, is now taking volunteers for the phase 2 trial. of course, this needs to be done in Spain, because Trump once mused, gee, if only there were a way of bringing a disinfectant into direct contact with the virus.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  237. @Malla

    他们可能正在做某事。

    Instead of framing this biological world war as China vs. USrael, Russia vs. USrael, NATOUSrael vs Russia, Russia + China vs. NATOUSrael, I use a globalist vs. nationalist lens.

    Covid is a globalist bioweapon.

    The dominant elements within US deep state are globalist. During Trump admin, they faced infrequent, incoherent and ineffective resistance. One example was Iran. So the globalists took care of Iran, and eventually Trump through a stolen election, during the first wave of Covid.

    Similarly the globalists took care of nationalist presidents of Tanzania and Burundi who resisted globalist health empire.

    The countries suffering the most during the second wave are India, Brazil and Turkey, where there are some nationalist resistance, again ineffective, incoherent, and infrequent, on some fronts from Modi, Bolsonaro, and Erdogan.

    CCP and PLA are co-operating with deep state because of export market, self-defense, and regional geo-political aspirations. But this is an unstable equilibrium.

    All these seem good old CIA-backed deep state genocidal activities, aided and abetted by silence from scientific community, party driven by fear and partly by greed as they rest and vest BioPharma stocks while enjoying their grants and tenure.

    • 谢谢: Malla
  238. @aspnaz

    罗恩在这里真的很尴尬。 他完全致力于他的反吹理论。 9/11并不适用,Covid也不适用。 他应该知道更多。 锁定和虚假议程使整个事情显然是计划好的间谍程序变得更加明显。

    • 同意: Hans
  239. St-Germain 说:
    @Jeffrey A Freeman

    Just a foible. Because, compared with my youth and upbringing in a comparatively free country, the USA today now strikes as having undergone a weird metamorphosis into a quasi-Bolshevik (Soviet) society while the former Soviet Russia (USSR) is looking more and more sensible. So I just sometime insert the Soviet “S” where it now belongs.

  240. Guest37 说:

    我认为这种“流氓Neocon元素”理论是薄弱的。 这是对本文结尾处的总结要点的一些想法。

    1.索赔:盗贼Neocon分子计划了这次行动,几个行动者在军事比赛中释放了病毒。

    回应:这些流氓分子将如何发展该病毒,它们将如何对该病毒进行测试以了解其特征性流行病学参数是什么?

    这种病毒的发展可能是通过使用雪貂或类似物品的小型实验室操作来完成的,但是需要进行测试以确定该病毒对人类的流行病学参数(传染性,致死性,潜伏期,传染期,易感年龄段等)。 。)将需要至少数百只各个年龄段的人类豚鼠。 该测试将如何进行?

    如果对健康的年轻军事人员进行原始参数测试,则该病毒看起来会非常温和,而且看起来根本不会像破坏经济的武器。 看起来像是轻微的流感。 到2021年这一点,如何进行这样的测试而又不让参与者之一泄露?

    在军事比赛中释放病毒的意义何在? 如果我想隐瞒美国的参与,那将是我的最后选择。 为什么要提请自己注意?

    如果您想传播这种病毒,并且假设您已经知道它的流行病学参数,就是我们现在所知道的那样,那为什么不直接派几个受感染的特工和一群武汉妓女一起睡觉呢。 为什么只选择武汉,为什么不让感染的特工在中国所有大城市与妓女同睡呢? 还是在地铁中咳嗽,或者在卡拉OK吧和教堂散发出感染性的歌曲和赞美诗?

    军事比赛的巧合并不是没有证据支持Neocon理论。 如果有的话,那就是反对的证据。 为什么在不必要的情况下在病毒和游戏之间建立联系,而只会在中国人的脑海中引起怀疑?

    2.索赔:他们释放的生物制剂主要是为了反经济而不是杀伤人员武器而设计的。

    响应:摆弄病毒的DNA或多或少使其具有传染性是一回事,但是要再次设计和确定其传染性,潜伏期,传播期,致死率等,则需要大量测试和数百名各个年龄段的人类豚鼠。 如何在没有人泄漏的情况下进行此类测试?

    3.主张:Neocons以更具致命性的目标瞄准了伊朗的政治精英。

    回应:如果新保守派可以瞄准伊朗精英,为什么不同时瞄准中国和俄罗斯精英呢? 而且,如果您在争论他们对伊朗人使用的致命变种为何,为什么不对中国公众使用它。 假设它具有与我们当前病毒相同的参数,那么致命的变种肯定会与当前病毒一样好作为一种反经济武器。 高杀伤力的恐怖将破坏经济,就像降低杀伤力的变种所需要的额外照顾一样。

    而且,如果您假设Neocons具有更致命的变种,那么您还假设了更大的开发和测试过程,因此有更多的泄漏机会。

    此外,“我们的数据世界”网站指出,伊朗的死亡率不到美国的一半,因此,伊朗人不太可能具有更致命的变异。 我也没有在新闻中看到有关伊朗致命变体的任何说法。

    4.声明:根据我们在SARS和MERS方面的经验,Neocons知道该病毒将被遏制并且不会在中国以外传播。

    响应:如果Neocons在发布之前知道并选择了所有病毒参数,那么他们将知道它与SARS和MERS病毒具有非常不同的参数,因此他们将知道它不可能被遏制。

    简而言之,该理论要求Neocon阴谋家既要聪明地设计新病毒并微调其流行病学参数,又要愚蠢地弄错这些参数。

    5.索赔:Neocon向DIA发出警报。

    回应:如果Neocon假定该病毒不会在中国以外传播,为什么还要向DIA发出警报? 如果将病毒携带到中国,Neocons会希望我们的部队采取什么适当的预防措施?

    另外,该DIA报告的报告非常微薄,我认为不是特别可靠。 这是“非同寻常的要求需要非同寻常的证据”的事情之一。

    6.索赔:中国人消灭了病毒,美国遭到猛烈抨击。

    回应:这不是支持或反对Neocon理论的证据或论据,只是中立的观察。

    综上所述,这种Neocon理论太复杂,太容易泄漏,并且内部矛盾太多。 Occam的Razor建议实验室意外泄漏或自然进化的可能性更大。

  241. Per/Norway 说:
    @Adam Grant

    Xi article‍♂️在那篇文章中没有任何战争宣言
    格雷戈里·科普利(Gregory copley)表示,习近平宣战,但他胆怯以至于他没有与任何中国媒体/政府文件联系起来,所以格兰特先生是一位盎格鲁齐奥作家,对习近平的“宣战”作了陈述。

    您根据此人的无来源主张提出了一个较弱的论点:

    “ GREGORY R. COPLEY
    历史学家,作家,战略分析家以及曾经的工业家格雷格里·R·科普利(Gregory R. Copley)出生于1946年,在与世界各国政府的最高层合作中有着近五十年的经验,为国家安全,情报和国家管理提供咨询服务问题”

    对不起,AG老兄,但这还不够好,请带中国文件或习近平宣战的视频😉

    • 同意: Badger Down
    • 回复: @Adam Grant
  242. Desert Fox 说:
    @John Fisher

    Thanks, this is the biggest scam and psyop and as you said mind control operation in the history of the world.

    • 同意: Trinity
  243. Lot 说:

    我坚信covid是2020年中期之前武汉实验室意外泄漏的。这一点只会越来越有力。

    韦德(Wade)是我们这个时代的英雄作家之一。

    罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)对“新中国冷战”是错误的。

    两国的军事工业总产值占GDP的3%至4%,这需要一个强大的对手来证明它们的存在。

    但是像我们的国家一样,管理着我们国家的重要人物。

  244. RTM 说:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Also, if China’s government publicly endorsed the Western bio-attack theory, then their public may exert considerable pressure on the government to do something. As you describe, it probably is not in their strategic interest to be cornered into some kind of overt retaliation.

    • 同意: Ron Unz
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  245. The first question to ask yourself is who has benefitted the most from covid 19 and all the actions surrounding it. Everything else is noise. The winners were the globalists from around the world, the tech giants, the leftist governments, big banks, big pharma among others. The biggest losers have been the working class with any measure of success in life. This wasnt the usa vs china or china vs the usa. They worked together on this as a means to disposses the middle class and consolidate power around the world but especially in the western world, where the middle class still has much in assets the elite believe to be rightfully theirs. It is also the reason blm/antifa are allowed to run amok while white people(the middle class majority) are demonized and increasingly persecuted. It is also why they push the climate change will kill us all if we dont live like peasants asap. It is all connected and is all pushing us to the same end., a global feudalist order.

    • 同意: Robert Dolan
  246. juanjo 说: • 您的网站

    Que el arma biologica tiene retroceso todos los militares lo saben.Pero lo mas seguro es que amplificaron este retroceso adrede en occidente buscando el mismo objetivo que al dañar la economia china.La respuesta a esto aparentemente contradictorio,esta en el hecho que en occidente somos los pricipales clientes de la dicha economia.Luego dañando la economia occidental frenamos el crecimiento chino.A menos poder adquisitivo de los occidentales menos compramos en china(todo se fabrica en china).A esto le añadimos el hecho de que los que controlan los paises occidentales les importa una mierda el destino de los occidentales,podemos afirmar que no dudan en emprender tacticas de “tierra quemada”(quema de mercados)en la retirada ante una China triunfante en la guerra economica que occidente le planteo.El hecho de que el gobierno chino(que sabe perfectamente que ha sido objeto de un ataque biologico)tambien apoye la teoria zoonotica del covid19,es porque le conviene que no se desate una guerra que su propìa poblacion exigiria si su gobierno les afirmara la verdad.No le interesa esa guerra catastrofica porque estan muy seguros de que este es el siglo de China y esa guerra no le hace falta.

  247. Ron Unz 说:
    @Kevin Barrett

    中国人大概不会指责美国,因为他们知道美国拥有更大的全球扩音器。 如果中国大肆宣扬真相,美国可以通过大肆宣传其预制的封面故事谎言来指责中国和 WIV,从而将其淹没。

    过去的案例证明了这一点。 正如我在原始文章中指出的那样,数十年来,人们一直承认“天安门广场大屠杀”只是一个骗局,但每年MSM的所有网点仍在发布有关此事的故事,因此每个人仍然认为它确实发生了,包括少数西方人是中国人,更不用说生活在西方的中国人了。

    同样,完全可以肯定的是,北约在1999年故意轰炸了中国驻贝尔格莱德大使馆,一名北约官员甚至吹牛说他们击中了确切的目标房间,但由于美国MSM另有说法,所以这里的每个人都认为这是偶然的。

    我在2020年XNUMX月的原始文章中介绍了所有这些内容:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    • 回复: @lysias
    , @Bolteric
  248. @Drew

    “I hope that you are better than that.”

    You’re hoping in vain. The sniping, condescending tone of her post makes that clear. Indeed I’m impressed with the politeness with which all those responding to her have demolished her point without descending to her obnoxious level.

    Truth and reason have their own serenity, and need no aggression.

  249. @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    Let this sink in:

    Back in the late 1940s returning WWII vets began having babied in unprecedented numbers; they came to be called The Baby Boom, or Boomers.

    With the ineluctability of basic math, those Boomers approached the age of beginning-die-off just around 2020.

    Some died younger than others, but for sure there was a glut of people more inclined to die than to remain alive.

    US elites not being the sort to let (a perfectly o-be-expected) crisis go to waste, those Boomers who did succumb were quickly classified as Covid deaths.

    I defy anyone to prove with metaphysical certainty that their deaths were or were not Covid deaths.

    If not, why were their loved ones kept from visiting them as they died, and even kept from granting them a proper burial?

    Moreover, how to account for the appearance on every friction’ web page, news item, retail advert, billboard, even message boards over major interstate highways of the Dire Warning that the Covid gonna get you! This is unprecedented! “Flood the field” was the agenda declared at one of those international confabs where the Great Reset was rolled out, and Flood the Field they did.

    For at least the last five years 600,000 Americans have died of cancer.
    Several years ago, Joe Biden even got the Obama administration to carve out funds for a cancer “Moon Shot.”
    That shot having missed the moon, Biden created a private foundation, but that entity likewise folded with no meaningful change in the rate of cancer deaths.

    This is the guy you listen to when he brays, “Get vaccinated; get vaccinated; get vaccinated!”

    Why, Joe?

    • 同意: Trinity, Kali
  250. vinteuil 说:
    @Guest37

    …该理论要求Neocon阴谋家在设计新病毒和微调其流行病学参数方面非常聪明,并且在错误理解这些参数方面异常愚蠢……

    这是RKU在此站点上推广的所有许多阴谋论的根本问题。

    一方面,他选择的敌人Neocons非常聪明。 另一方面,他们无能为力。

    • 同意: Lot
  251. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ooops, that should have been “Blue State” not Red. You’d think after 30 years of the Lyin’ Press using blue for the D-squad of The Party, I could keep track, but I will always associate the color red with the Commies, of whom the “blue” squad are closer to.

  252. Ron Unz 说:
    @Wade

    我非常尊重这个人和他的美国Pravda系列。 我永远感谢他的努力。

    感谢您的客气话。

    I cannot fathom why Ron Unz has not even deigned to mention The Great Reset in any of his pieces…I must admit that I’m nonplussed over Ron’s insouciance towards the issue of the WEF, The Great Reset, which has as it’s predecessor the infamous “Agenda 2021” document…He may have equally valid reasons to be dismissive of the WEF and The Great Reset. If so, I would greatly appreciate hearing from him on the subject…

    Being very candid, I’ll admit that the whole Great Reset/Agenda 2021/World Economic Forum stuff has always seemed like total crackpottery to me, so ridiculous that I never looked into it other than sometimes reading some of the articles or discussion on my own website. I also put all the “Bill Gates’ diabolical plot to exterminate mankind” stuff in pretty much the same category.

    My very strong suspicion is that these sorts of (in my opinion) implausible and ridiculous “conspiracy theories” are probably promoted to divert attention from the very real and strong evidence of Covid-19 having been an American biowarfare attack. After all, wouldn’t the CIA or whomever prefer that agitated activists on the Internet spend all their time ranting about some 83-year-old Swiss international banker named Klaus Schwab who holds annual public conferences in Davos rather than paying attention to all the numerous pieces of evidence I’ve accumulated implicating America’s national security apparatus in the gigantic global disaster?

    In fact, didn’t that Cass Sunstein fellow years ago say that the using “cognitive infiltration” to promote ridiculous nonsense was the best means of defeating “conspiracy theorists” on the Internet? It worked pretty well for 9/11, so why not apply it to Covid-19 as well?

    I’d be the first to admit that various groups and individuals are certainly taking advantage of the viral epidemic, notably getting the Federal Reserve to spend many trillions of dollars bailing out their businesses and loans, and massively boosting their stock prices. But after the 2008 Financial Meltdown, they used their political power to loot the American Treasury in exactly the same way and got a huge government bailout without the need for any disease outbreak. So I doubt they created Covid-19 for that purpose.

    Still, I suppose I should finally take a look at a couple of the Agenda 2021/Great Reset articles and decide for myself…

    • 同意: utu, Levtraro
    • 谢谢: Kali
    • 哈哈: Emslander
  253. Anastasia 说:

    中国和美国在一起。 如此明显。
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-10-fauci-and-the-nih-caught-funding-chinas-covid-bioweapons-research.html

    这是一场宣传活动。

    到目前为止,自2021年以来,已有3,500例疫苗死亡。 任何人都在数那些。 它位于VAERS网站上,因此您知道他们对此表示低估。

    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  254. @Guest37

    综上所述,这种Neocon理论太复杂,太容易泄漏,并且内部矛盾太多。 Occam的Razor建议实验室意外泄漏或自然进化的可能性更大。

    还要注意罗恩理论中完全没有一个主要的,显性的骗子-盖茨和基金会。 该名男子可能举着牌子说“我有上帝的复合体”,然后唱出一首关于他如何处理整个事情的咏叹调,而每个准备殴打的人只会在挠曲列表中走下坡路:

    [更多]

    1-事实核对:比尔·盖茨没有为编排假大流行唱歌
    2-洛克菲勒!
    3-罗斯柴尔德人/犹太人!
    4-深度状态
    5-还有什么

    无论如何,这种可杀死严重体弱的可怜的小病毒从何而来都没有关系。 重要的是大科技以其名义对我们所做的一切 –罗恩(Ron)似乎非常反感,他更喜欢钻研他自己的鲁伯·戈德堡(Rube Goldberg)关于其起源的理论。 这种理论的前提是,它比季节性流感更具危险性,而季节性流感并非如此,或者与其余冠状病毒科完全不同。

    任何。 排队,为假的末日病毒接种假疫苗。 我们现在不能阻止它。

  255. The US risked nuclear annihilation to spread a moderately bad flu to China and Iran. While doing this we took absolutely no precautions to protect ourselves from the inevitable blowback and spread of this “Bioweapon”.

    Not adding up.

    • 回复: @anonym25
  256. @Irish Savant

    Yeah – same as in Italy on a business level – according to thee German 经济周刊 2300 (!) Chinese businesses in Northern Italy. – Flights from Wuhan not least going in and out regularly.

  257. @FB

    您还记得惠特尼回购片吗? 时机与您的评论不同,但这是我能找到的最接近的时机:

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-repo-fiasco-the-feds-cash-injections-send-stocks-soaring/

    • 谢谢: FB
  258. Ace 说:

    The massive damage to America’s economy and society was not the result of the virus but of the disastrous, moronic official response to it. Whether deliberately or coincidentally, the official response benefited from the pathetic risk aversion of the American public that simply would not entertain the notion that “stuff happens” in life and that the risk of exposure to the virus is in the same category of exposure to auto accidents, cancer, and heart disease. Too bad if you’re “it” but society doesn’t implode if you are.

    A fourth possibility comes to mind, namely, that the virus was seen as an opportunity to further damage America by the same malevolent spirits who foist open borders, BLM, AntiFa, diversity, CRT, white supremacy, systemic racism, hate speech, anti-Semitism, Christo-Judaism, propositional nation, living Constitution, and the ever-malleable the Interstate Commerce Clause on us. The sick determination to foist masks, distancing, and lockdowns on us and the poisonous attack on those miscreants who “spread disinformation” about the corona virus and “useless” alternative treatments and preventatives show that this event had or took on a life of its own from the earliest stages.

    病毒在中国的出现很早就与这种理论在美国内部引发的论点背道而驰,但是可以说,那些致力于破坏美国和发起“大复位”的国内力量已经认识到了巨大的破坏性机会。 。

    • 同意: Achmed E. Newman
    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  259. anonym25 说:
    @Garliv

    The Chinese decided to stand down. They knew they were attacked but they possibly couldn’t find enough evidences linking those responsible of this biowarfare and neither prove how it was carried out. I also believe the Chinese secret services fumbled their security operations and after that they judged it would be best to avoid any controversy about a potential biowarfare.

    Thus, they peddled the hypothesis of a naturally occuring pandemic. They thought they could sweep the origins of Covid19 under the rug and normally continue to fight the pandemic along with the whole world. However they didn’t count on Trump’s rhetoric to sway the narrative towards the Wuhan lab, unfortunately for them, happens to be near the first outbreak of the virus. This clearly indicates that perpetrators of this biowarfare deliberately released this virus in Wuhan and skillfully concealed their modus operandi in order to blame the Wuhan lab for this calamity.

    However no newspaper has picked up on Trump’s decision back in september 2019 to withdraw US scientists from the Wuhan lab and to freeze the multimillion dollar coronavirus detection plan for the Wuhan lab.

  260. @Ron Unz

    The serious part of The Great Resset discourse is the Compact for Migration and Mekel’s/Barrack Obama’s Biden’s (and the EU’s) idea to install world peace by forcing immigration – not least into Europe and the US. Ok and Bill Gates is thinking rather big here and there and I do think that he does not get everything right (not least because he might underestimate the unintended consequences of actions in complex fields (such as world health and world prosperity and – the healing of the climate, so to speak).

  261. @stevennonemaker88

    German Health Care minister just released the following info: Number of patients with CO-19 in intensive care beds in 2020: 4% of the sum total.
    Number of people on a ventilator in Switzerland in 2020 lower than in 2019.
    No excess deaths in Germany in 2020. Excess deaths in Sweden in 2020: 0,04% – in the range of a severe flue wave, like it happens once in ca. six years in Sweden (for details see hailtoyou.wordpress.com)

    • 谢谢: stevennonemaker88
  262. @FvS

    i believe the chinese knew it was a bioweapon…& were prepared. perhaps the 2 earlier had alerted them to the possibility or perhaps the researchers leaving the winnipeg lab had alerted them, perhaps they had allowed gates & fauci & the us teams simply to watch & wait. after putin had publicly queried why the americans had taken blood samples of russians, possibly both china & russia were waiting, whilst preparing. sputnik V came on with admirable speed. i also suspect america’s supposed withdrawal from afghanistan will be quickly fitted up with bioweapons & head choppers. it was interesting to read that along the chinese/myanmar border there was an isolated outbreak of covid. america will stop the bri & the rise of russia, china & iran by whatsoever means it can. & o/c when all else fails america will resort to nukes. as putin & china have both pointed out, america is the only nation to have used nukes.

    谢谢罗恩·恩兹(RON UNZ),您重新适应了这一关键主题。

  263. Clyde 说:

    Thanks Ron…bookmarking to return to and read this long piece

  264. If it was the U.S., it was an act of war and a war crime of unparalleled historical proportions. A bioweapons attack upon a civilian population against a nation we are not at war with.

    Not to say its not possible, but it would make the bombing of Dresden or Holocaust look miniscule in comparison in terms of heinous acts.

    • 同意: Wizard of Oz
  265. Ron Unz 说:
    @SafeNow

    My thought is that the Covid-nebulizing device would exactly resemble an asthma inhaler. The agent would clear customs carrying multiple devices, together with a doctor’s letter explaining that this patient has an atypical case of asthma — one requiring frequent doses of inhalent.

    没错。

    I have zero expertise in biowarfare, but the notion that we spent billions to develop extremely-sophisticated viral weapons but still rely upon infecting our agents and have them go around coughing on people in other countries is totally ridiculous. Armies in the Middle Ages would sometimes try to spread the plague to their enemies in that sort of way, but I suspect we have better means these days.

    That’s why those (very doubtful) reports of some of our participants in the Wuhan World Military Games having been sick at the time is very likely just a red-herring aimed at discrediting the general scenario.

  266. @Ron Unz

    Seems unlikely that the virus was *已创建* by WEF types, but it sure seems like the virus has been overhyped and exploited in order to advance the Great Reset agenda, which is basically “increasing bureaucratic control at the expense of individual autonomy” (“everything as a service”; “you will own nothing and be happy”).

    The mask mandates and fanatical vaccine evangelism are clearly an attempt to acclimate the population to a new and intimate tier of government dictate, very similar to the expansion of the surveillance state that occurred post 9/11.

    • 同意: Robert Dolan, Skeptikal
    • 回复: @Freedomstillisntfree
  267. Ron Unz 说:
    @Guest37

    回应:这些流氓分子将如何发展该病毒,它们将如何对该病毒进行测试以了解其特征性流行病学参数是什么?

    在不花冗长的问题清单的情况下(我的原始文章中已经明确或隐含地解决了许多问题),我将在此处澄清您提出的问题。

    根据他所说和所做的一切,我想说唐纳德·特朗普总统授权对中国进行所谓的生物战袭击的可能性为0.00%。 因此,从定义上看,这是我们国家安全机构的“流氓行动”。

    但是,我确实认为,特朗普政府中的一些非常高层人物实际上是袭击背后的人物。 例如,迈克·庞培(Mike Pompeo)是领先的反华鹰派之一,而最近刚担任中央情报局(CIA)负责人。 因此,我认为他和他周围的一些人将拥有策划这次袭击的所有必要权限和联系。 我不知道他是否是那个人,但是像他这样的人将是我最好的猜测。

    鉴于他们在政府中的地位和与外界的接触,他们将能够简单地利用我们现有的生物战能力来实现其目标,就像9/11袭击或(对那些记得的人)伊朗反恐事件中发生的情况一样1980年代。

    因此,涉及的所有技术,包括特定类型的病毒,都是由Ft长期开发的。 戴特里克(Detrick)或我们的其他生物战实验室,它们只是被未经授权的绘图员转移并部署的,这些绘图员可能是由相当高水平的人支持的。

    In some respects, America's biowarfare capabilities were hijacked a little like how the Neocons hijacked the foreign policy of the Bush Administration after 9/11 or how a different group of Neocons hijacked the Trump Administration despite the fact that he had originally been elected as the anti -新候选人。

    • 同意: emersonreturn, Wade
    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  268. @follyofwar

    Often “coincidences” are engineered events. I will NEVER take one of those vaccines…

  269. cranc 说:
    @Ron Unz

    实际上,难道不是卡斯·桑斯坦(Cass Sunstein)几年前就说过,使用“认知渗透”来提倡荒谬的废话是在互联网上击败“阴谋理论家”的最佳手段吗? 它在9/11上效果很好,所以为什么不将它也应用到Covid-19?

    罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)可能会更好。 关于911的反吹理论是胡说八道,就像您对Covid的反吹理论是胡说八道一样。 任何人都可以读到,过去几个月来,您已经无可置疑地忽略了与您自己的理论相矛盾的论点和证据,而在座的人们竭尽全力地解释了您的理论没有解释,甚至没有的证据。承认。 您围绕鸽子孔标签投掷,就像遵循CIA脚本一样,这样的名称调用是 时刻 不能捍卫自己立场的人的不得已的手段。

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    我更喜欢诚实的逻辑论证,以支持一种解释所有相关证据的理论。
    我只能推测您是因为自己的傲慢而受阻还是正在为某个议程而努力。 无论哪种方式,我都不再相信您会为更广泛的真理服务。

    “说出真相,整个真相,只有真相。”

    是的,对。

    • 同意: Stonehands, Emslander
    • 不同意: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • 回复: @The Soft Parade
  270. Tony_0pmoc 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Thank you for allowing me to post on your blog, and also thanks to the people who replied to the words I wrote, I also agree with you re

    ” I’ll admit that the whole Great Reset/Agenda 2021/World Economic Forum stuff has always seemed like total crackpottery to me, so ridiculous that I never looked into it”

    也许你应该。

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    You are quite obviously a good man, who is searching for the truth as best as you can.

    I just really like the design of your blog, regardless of the content.

    Like anyone can post here, and you can preview your words, and edit them if you like, and you have a countdown 5 minutes, where you can edit them ….and then they in my case, the words appear.

    You seem to have pretty much a similar kind of open mind as me, except I can’t be bothered to run my own blog, cos if it gets very popular, you have to take Responsibility for it…like Moderating the most extreme comments, and have the possibility of being sued and even jailed, as a result of some tosspot, who has decided to use your blog to cause offense…and you have to deal with that.

    I do not have that much courage, nor interest, and neither does my son, who runs an ISP, with all languages under the sun.

    He is like the plumber, connecting the pipes. He has no interest in the content of the sh1te, providing his customers pay their bills, and if they don’t. he will give them fair warning and cut them off. No Pay No Service.

    He is doing O.K. He is the most honest person of integrity I have ever known

    He has got My Grandchildren to Feed…who are enormous fun..he brings them around a lot ..in fact most of the time..

    I accept the world has changed, yet it still pretty much the same. My wife and I got considerably older, but neither of us have been vacinnated, and we still look pretty much the same. Our hair is still growing out of our heads, and she does her best to keep me fit. We grow a bit of our own food, in our back garden.

    I feel Blessed to have been born on this Planet, and have been so lucky to meet and keep such a lovely wife.

    She nursed me back to health at home earlier this year, when I was really ill, through lack of sunshine and Vitamin D.

    We are still in love.

    托尼

  271. @As I see it

    Assuming the numbers are not fudged, excess death does NOT tell us that people are dying of covid. It is probably caused by lockdowns, pneumonia (Which is present in more deaths than covid according to the cdc), economic issues, postponing medical care for unrelated health issues, etc. Correlation and causality often overlap, but are not the same thing.

    • 回复: @As I see it
  272. anon[294]• 免责声明 说:

    Guest37 [244] is representative of CIA’s frantic cognitive infiltration on this thread. A few hallmarks of the approach.

    1. his point here relies on distortion of the vague public understanding of CIA clandestine crime. CIA’s feasibility test is deniability. ‘The link between the virus and the games’ doesn’t matter as long as CIA can engage in finger-pointing. It doesn’t matter if the world is suspicious, or even certain, as CIA’s JFK assassination shows. So the Wuhan games allow CIA to disperse suspicion among multiple countries.

    Guest37 also ignores the misattribution benefits of Wuhan with evidently willful obtuseness. Acknowledged introduction allows CIA to blame the Wuhan research center.

    2. CIA biological warfare ‘requires guinea pigs of all ages.’ How could such testing be done? In disappeared populations. Like those of Israel, other CIA client states, or CIA’s own secret, partly maritime, torture gulag. CIA has form in the crime against humanity of disappearance. Ignoring how CIA’s crimes interact to make one particular crime seem implausible is telltale CIA propaganda. CIA’s municipal-law impunity permits compound crimes of high complexity.

    There’s lot more CIA crap in there but it’s too irrelevant and stupid to dissect. Burns, you pedo puppet, this is not like where you work, there are smart people here. Dimbulb hasbara doesn’t cut it.

    • 回复: @d dan
  273. follyofwar 说:
    @Wade

    In early July 2020, Klaus Schwab and Thierry Malleret published their bombshell book “COVID-19: THE GREAT RESET.” It contains 252 pages of excruciating detail of how Covid is destined to change the way the entire world will henceforth operate. Its three parts are broken into Macro Reset, Micro Reset, and Individual Reset, each containing several chapters.

    Now, as of ten months ago, we were only a few months into the pandemic (AKA their “plandemic”), but it is inconceivable that Schwab and Malleret could have written such a detailed account in such a short time frame. It’s hard not to conclude that the whole thing had to be written in advance, with only minor changes made as the Covid assault on mankind quickly evolved. Schwab and his colleagues at the WEF may not have personally unleashed the virus, but they knew it was coming, and they kept everything top secret until it was unleashed on the unsuspecting rabble, whose overpopulated billions must be reduced by any means possible.

    • 同意: Robert Dolan, Skeptikal
    • 回复: @ThreeCranes
  274. @stevennonemaker88

    “…所谓的大流行病与致命的微小杀伤力不成比例,以致
    整个事情就成了骗局”。

    如果仅仅是COVID疫苗也是骗局的话……从现在开始的一两年后可能会很多
    很难说服人们这一切都是骗局。

    • 同意: stevennonemaker88
  275. @Ron Unz

    罗恩

    我们爱您(有男子气概),但是您对某些理论的回避并不能避免THE问题:

    混沌是目标。 这将通过鼓励和促进在独立的,对世界支配的精神病性议程下运作的任何大国的议程来实现,当被告知真相时,它们除了混乱之外别无选择。 那个 是对象。

    只有在完全混乱的情况下,最终的“疫苗”才会向世人显现。

    但是,对于一个事实,即眼前的不可持续的疯狂,已经达成共识。 仅仅出于这个原因,就这个世界上有用的白痴做一个故事是无害的,无论是议程2021 / Great Reset,还是比尔·盖茨都相信自己为自己的目标而努力,而事实并非如此。

  276. anonym25 说:
    @Keith snipes

    The US did take precautions for this bioweapon but this was poorly executed by Trump. It was under the Obama administration that this virus was created to target China. He had created a pandemic playbook to weather the upcoming pandemics creating a multibillion dollar funds to use it in a time of crisis.

    However the democrats lost the 2016 election and Trump took over. Even though he was warned by Fauci in 2017 that a pandemic would certainly happen under his watch, he withdrew funds from this pandemic prevention plan and left America wide open for this self-inflicted disaster. The Crimson simulation occuring during the first six months of 2019 clearly showed how ill-prepared the US was at that time to withstand this storm.

    Prophetically, Biden even had warned Trump during october 2019 to prepare himself for a pandemic. So of course he knew something that we didn’t.

  277. michael888 说:
    @That Would Be Telling

    While I agree that a single immunocompromised individual or a small, isolated community COULD have produced a virus with 17 protein changing mutations, there’s no evidence for either case (it would have been interesting to examine samples of the virus over time from the individual or isolated community). Growing a coronavirus in human cell lines with serial passage would likely lead to whatever mutations were favored for infection and rapid growth; unless the culture system was elaborate (unlikely to contain immune system cells, a heroic undertaking!) there would be no increased immune-resistance with such a massively mutated variant from culture. We do know that B.1.1.7 showed no evidence of immune resistance (Planas et al, 2021) despite increased transmission, although B.1.351 (South African variant) showed immune evasion in the same study.

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    And while I generally agree that most viruses evolve to be more transmissible and less lethal, SARS-COV2 is unusual in that about 99.8% of those infected survive, most with no or minimal symptoms. There is really no selective pressure (masks?? common cold coronavirus T cell (less-selective) immunity?) While I’m not a fan of Geert vandem Bossche’s theory, it is a cogent argument that should be considered. He has been emphasizing that his concern is widespread vaccination DURING the pandemic, saying before or after would be fine. The combination of lots of virus spreading about and antibodies specific for a very small region of the virus would put selective pressure on the virus to evade antibodies to the S protein. Worse, it could create an analogous situation to dengue, where antibodies to other strains PROTECT novel strains (increased virulence). Other examples are mostly in farm animals, but a real concern for many virologists.

    It makes much more sense to vaccinate the VULNERABLE globally, and wait for the children and young and healthy who are at minimal risk. Natural immunity (to the entire virus) also is preferable to vaccine-immunity, particularly from vandem Bossche’s perspective.

  278. @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    The point is almost a million people are dead THAT WOULD NOT BE DEAD IF THEY DID NOT CATCH COVID 19. Let that sink in.

    I just explained why this is incorrect. Someone who committed suicide, but tests positive for Covid is counted as a covid death. Per the CDC’s OWN website. Someone who dies from sepsis, which is a deadly condition, can be counted as a covid death. People who are being counted as covid deaths, in the majority of cases, DID NOT DIE from covid; they died “with” covid, and a notoriously unreliable test at that.

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    Who cares that they had pre-existing conditions?

    Anyone interested in the truth and an accurate understanding of what is going on cares. Especially when their exists overwhelming evidence that fraud is being committed on a vast scale.

    If they had not caught COVID 19 they would be ALIVE today.

    This is ridiculous. As I mentioned, they died of other causes. When the average age of death is the same as the average life expectancy, it should be obvious we are being lied to.

  279. Nothing about the pandemic seems organic to me.

    As someone else mentioned, ask who benefits?

    Is it a coincidence that a huge percentage of small business and restaurant owners happen to be conservative?

    Why did they lie so much about the fatality rate of covid? Why did they claim it was a danger to young people as well?

    Why did they lie about the effectiveness of masks and social distancing?

    Why did they pay hospitals huge amounts of money for every covid diagnosis?

    Why have they outlawed any information that goes outside their bullshit narrative?

    Can it be a coincidence that Gates had a coronavirus simulation just a few months before the outbreak?

    Why are they so adamant about the damn vaccine when there are a number of effective treatments available that are not as sketchy as an untested vaccine?

    • 同意: michael888
  280. @CanSpeccy

    That’s my take, too. A puzzling departure from Ron’s usual premise-building.

    • 回复: @emersonreturn
  281. Ace 说:

    This third possibility seems vaporous to me.

    First, I believe military or intelligence officials would not choose to release a pathogen at or about the same time that hundreds of U.S. military personnel were in Wuhan to participate in a military athletic competition. The risk of infection of our own troops wouid have to be considred. If the method of release involved a timer that risk would be negated of course but still there would be the possibility of a 特设运动员后遗症 analysis on the part of the Chinese. More to the point, it would make far more sense to employ an American operative acting as a tourist as the one to release any virus. To say the least, choosing to do that when there is no U.S. military athletic delegation in town would be imperative.

    I know sane, patriotic high government officials in the U.S. are in short supply but I’d wager on a reigning timidity in the ranks rather than a bold initiative risking war or enduring Chinese hostility. If you think they’re irked by the burning of the summer palace back when, just imagine the white-hot fury of the entire Chinese nation if it came to light such an attack had come from even a small group of U.S. morons.

    Second, the idea that China had suddenly come to be seen by U.S. schemers as this enormous threat warranting this gigantic crime doesn’t jibe with the fact that since the days of Deng the U.S. has in every way sought to 加强 China (and destroy our own industry). Suddenly there’s been this 伏脸 and now it’s Katey bar the door for the We Hate China crowd?

    Third, the appearance of virus outbreaks in China in years immediately prior to the Wuhan incident doesn’t suffuse post hoc ergo hoc with any additional legitimacy as a type of argument. Not to mention the fact that there’s nothing to indicate that the previous outbreaks had anything to do with American machinations. Familiarity with and experimentation with biowarfare agents is not an argument for their having been used. The U.S., Russia and China have nuclear weapons but that doesn’t mean they think using them would be a good idea. In the unlikely event that I were to obtain a personal firearm that doesn’t mean I’d eventually go on a rampage at my local Walmart.

    Fourth, some sort of geolocation exercise was reported by Mr. Wade that showed that a virus “hot spot” if you will was at a subway station close to the Wuhan lab.

    Fifth, Mr. Wade reports that research on bat coronaviruses were authorized to be done at safety level Level 2 out a total of four possible levels, 4 being the absolutely most secure way of proceeding. To give you an idea of the recklessness, Wade indicates Level 2 only requires “wearing lab coats and gloves, not sucking up liquids in a pipette, and putting up biohazard warning signs.” Even I can grasp the difference between “research on bat coronaviruses” and “gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.”

    Sixth, Wade indicates that what gain-of-function work was really being done at the Wuhan lab cannot be definitively known until the research notes of Dr. Shi are examined. Access to them is being denied by Chinese authorities. I wonder why. If the malevolent, hegemonic American did this, what’s the objection to releasing Shi’s notes?

    It’s not relevant to the immediate topic, but on the issue of gain-of-function research, I’ll be darned if I understand the rick-benefit analysis applied to bless scotch taping random RNA sequences into certain viruses to see what you get. If you don’t do that, the chances are zero that you’ll get naturally what you got artificially, so why bother with the Frankenstein possibilities? So just the activity itself seem unnecessary and possibly horribly dangerous. QED.

    Sixth, the Chinese reaction is far more revealing than the presence of U.S. military athletes, prior virus outbreaks in Chinese farm animals, and prior research in biowarfare. Chinese embarrassment at its egregious supervision of the lab is the operative concept.

    On the ever revealing analysis of what’s omitted from official versions, there’s Mr. Wade’s point that the U.S. funding of the Wuhan lab research — I am not making this up — was formally proscribed. Authorization for an exception to the U.S. legislative proscription of gain-of-function virus research had to have been forthcoming from none other than Dr. Fauci and/or the director of the NIH, Francis Collins. And it was forthcoming. Let’s hear from these two officials what in the world they were thinking.

    • 同意: dimples
    • 回复: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @Ace
  282. annamaria 说:
    @Alfred

    感谢您提供精彩视频的链接。 很有启发性!

  283. @stevennonemaker88

    是的,所有这些因素都导致过度死亡。 但是Covid也是一个因素。

    在过去10到12个月中,Twitter上的道德怀疑论者通过将Covid死亡与其他因素造成的死亡分开来,对超额死亡统计数据做出了出色的工作。 如果您有兴趣,可以关注他的工作。

    我同意,在大多数OECD国家中,Covid死亡人数都有所增加。 我们可以辩论多少。 但是,即使减少的数量仍然是非常大的损失。 我们只是在谈论死亡,而不是长期的健康损害和预期寿命的缩短。

    另一方面,我敢肯定,大多数发展中国家都在报告超额死亡人数。

    My mother lives in a high-rise apartment complex in India. She personally knows six people who died in the last few weeks. Similar symptoms – fever, fatigue, rapid fall in oxygen level, breathing problems, death. With a better health care system, some of them could have been saved perhaps. But it’s undeniable Covid is taking a brutal toll on India. If anything, Indian death stats are grossly under-reported. Even during normal times, 1 in 5 deaths in India gets registered. Forget about proper attribution.

    • 回复: @alan2102
  284. @Alden

    If USer militants were dosed in China, it would look bad for China. So much easier for a few “tourists” to dose up NYC, LA, O’Hare, and so on. Who ya gonna blame? How you say?: Don’t make poo-poo on your own doorstep.

    It is far more likely that the US dosed China in China.

  285. @That Would Be Telling

    Yes, Peter Forster’s group went silent after a very promising beginning, and so did a British lab which published a provocative paper on ‘vaping’ deaths.

    I wrote their PI and he was very helpful for a while, then suddenly the line went dead. Regardless of where the virus originated, there is certainly a Western conspiracy to assign blame to China and divert attention away from its earlier appearance in the US and Europe.

    See my comment, #54, and accompanying charts on its early history in the US.

    • 回复: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @utu
  286. @Anastasia

    到目前为止,自2021年以来,已有3,500例疫苗死亡。 任何人都在数那些。 它位于VAERS网站上,因此您知道他们对此表示低估。

    You’re claiming … what, the CDC is deliberately losing reports? That I’m pretty sure the people making the reports can check? Or you think reporting to VAERS is being suppressed?

    Note that these are correlated “adverse events” (death), and “correlation does not imply causation.” Given how thorough and successful the vaccination of the elderly and ill has been (note all the truthers who claim those dying “already had one foot in the grave”), we know a substantial number of people would have died with or without the disease.

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    因此,问题是实际上有多少人被其杀死,这需要进行分析。 您可以通过精算信息从高层次上做到这一点,并且当局正在针对相关个人以及仍是严重但不致命的相关严重不良事件进行检查。 其中也有很多人(您可以从网站上检索数据,它们非常容易,提供了很好的教程等),但是与有多少人遭到刺戳相比仍然不算大,现在全国几乎有一半,为153亿,远的。

    不幸的是,当给这么多人使用任何药物或生物制剂时,这是可以保证的,没有什么是100%安全的。 由于通过血管攻击使疾病本身恶化,因此没有安全的选择。

    One other issue is that rare events like the one with Janssen and clots in the veins draining blood from the brain wouldn’t have been found as “signal” in the clinical trials, where in Janssen’s one person did actually experience this. These Phase III trials as large as any, but still only give the vaccine to 15K to 23K people, not enough to discover a pattern from an event with as I recall a 1 in 500K to 1 in a million probability.

  287. Bob 说:
    @Biff

    In this link March 17, 2021 at 12:49 am GMT • 1.8 months ago

    罗恩说:

    Sure, I’ll probably get the vaccine at some point and I’m pretty skeptical of all the wild anti-vaxx lunacy. Then again, the companies did rush out the vaccines very quickly, and I just noticed that a bunch of the biggest European countries suspended use of the leading vaccines because of possible serious health complications. So there’s no harm in waiting a little and seeing how things play out.

  288. @Gizmo880

    的确,中国人是好人。 他们不断主张建立更公正的国际秩序,并结束美国/五眼/北约(NATO)统治统治的统治。 他们抬高了人民和与他们进行贸易合作的人民,而光荣的西方所留下的只是军事威逼和威胁,其次是侵略,破坏和大规模杀戮,以及同等的经济战,制裁,颠覆,金融奴役和掠夺。 这是无法形容的邪恶与不完美的善良之间的斗争。

    • 哈哈: Jeffrey A Freeman
    • 回复: @GomezAdddams
  289. annamaria 说:
    @thotmonger

    “I pine for an essay by Unz regarding the larger question of how this “great plague” is being so extravagantly exploited by Big Pharma, Big Tech, and other Big Crooks for whom life usually tends to be rather cheap.”
    — That’s a great suggestion! The profiteering cannibals must be exposed, including the moral midget Fauci of fake professional credentials.

  290. Kratic 说:

    Conspiracy or not
    Last year when I check the US Patent office all those SARs, MERS (Middle East) and Specially Codvid 19 were listed or awarded to Several US agencies such as Agriculture Department, Homeland Security, and probably Defense (dont remember) and one British company in Liverpool (from memory)

    https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050002953A1
    https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en

    Now I can not find the old pages and the new names look so strange.

    These Days: 1. Wonder what happened to those corona virus infected Chines falling like leaves. 2.The Chinese researcher from Harvard trying escaping from US and busted by FBI (was it a hoax) no words on that. 3. March 2015 Nature magazine published an articles jointly written by Americans and Chinese scientists working at University of North Carolina. The writer acknowledge Guess who none other than Dr. Fauci and National Health Institute grant. 4. The bats brought to NC State university were from area about thousand miles away from Wuhan. 5. MERS was stopped because it was not doing it job of spreading and instead killing the Palestinians (yes Conspiracy theory). 6. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross talking about corona virus how it was going to influence Chinese economy and corporation will relocate US back in Jan/Feb 2020.

  291. Franz 说:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Beyond the simple contemporary contrast between the current respective trajectories of the formerly affluent American public and the rising prosperity of the Chinese people, history emphatically demonstrates the point.

    Fine comment, yet the first point says it all.

    As young Americans face diminishing opportunities under the current regime, their Chinese counterparts really can dream of the stars. And worse, the Biden regime is going through the motions to deliberately keep the status quo. Which means more wars that bankrupt the country, more stupid payouts to bankers whenever the economy hiccups, more debt and more uncertainty for its citizens.

    A nation that destroys its future as wantonly as the US has in this century is raising serious questions: Is it a nation or not? And was it ever? Everything the old time anti-Americans once said has come true, and nobody in Washington seems to give a toss.

    • 回复: @Biff
  292. @Godfree Roberts

    And the Murdoch cancer in Austfailia is now, as expected, running hard on the ‘It’s a Chinese bioweapon, DELIBERATELY, unleashed’ assertion. Mad dogs always grow more frantic and agitated as the disease eats away at their brain, and do too do Murdochite racist hate-mongers grow ever more frenzied in their campaigns.

  293. @Godfree Roberts

    as i’ve mentioned to you before, my husband & i believe we had covid in the fall of 2019. our gp suspects as much as well but as he doesn’t trust the testing in canada has never had us officially tested. we believe we contracted in WA in late september 2019 from a nursing home where the MIL was staying. the number of deaths was high, all registered as death due to pulmonary fibrous. how covid came to be in WA in late summer through late sept is not clear to me. that pompeo confiscated all related records in WA is interesting. my husband & i both survived, we are both in our 70s. i have some lasting side effects, we each suffer memory issues. we consider ourselves fortunate. & will take only sputnik V if we are allowed to fly on covid negative test to mexico/san marino/austria (if they decide to buck biden).

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
    , @dimples
  294. @Ace

    The USA would gladly sacrifice its ‘athletes’ in order to spread a virus in China, to ‘..bring China down’, as US and other Atlanticist thugs have ceaselessly declared is their intention. The White, Western, European, Judeo-Christian ‘Gods Upon the Earth’ have run the planet for five hundred gory years, and they aren’t about to surrender that power to a bunch of ‘mere Asiatics’.
    Having the disease spread outside China (first to Iran!!!)is designed to create a casus belli for war on China. Even now the Evil thugs of the hate-mongering Murdoch cancer here in Austfailia are spewing the lie that China ‘deliberately’ released this bioweapon, because they are Evil, Yellow, Commie monsters. This will, as ever, spread through the rest of the fakestream media moral sewer, where the words ‘Fort Detrick’ and the acronym ‘AMRIID’ never pass the presstitute vermin’s lips. As for the ‘egregious supervision’ of the Wuhan lab, that’s just racist lies. The VAST US bio-warfare apparatus reports ‘incidents’ on average every three days, and AMRIID was closed in July 2019 for failures in its waste disposal system. As for whether the US Reich sees China as a threat, the war on China began in the Austfailian Parliament in 2011 when Obama declared the ‘pivot to Asia’. And the US Ambassador, Huntsman, after the ‘Arab Spring’ farce, attempted to foment a ‘Jasmine Revolution’, only NO Chinese turned up, only Western presstitute scum.

    • 回复: @Ace
  295. @Adam Grant

    你误会了。
    President Xi neither declared a 30-year war on the U.S., nor did he announce that he had begun a “new 30 Years War” with the US. He warned China that the US was cruising for a bruising, just like it always does.

    • 回复: @Adam Grant
  296. Tx212 说:

    This is no conspiracy. This agenda was already set out a few decades ago. Remember operation northwood and then 9/11. This is no different. There were already references made to which this pandemic would be happening in various movies and artforms.

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    Akira for example references the Japanese olympic games, pandemic and NWO/NGO interfering with it during this year. Rockfeller has already published this in their Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development document for operation lockstep in 2012, furthermore this was also telegraphed in various statements made by politicians/Bill Gates were to happen in the later years. In fact, there’s a page on world worldbank with covid-19 test kits imported in 2018 as code 300215 cached on waytimebackmachine. These lineages of wealthy families have already telegraphed their plans in operation spars and covid-25 for the next coming pandemic. There is also a ‘100-year’ plan that will tell you they plan to stratify people by ‘job level/career levels’ and transhumanist dogma causing inequities and inequalities amongst future persons in 2050 that is googleable right now. All actors on stage have acted in a concerted manner and any war thereafter WW1 has involved multiple coordinated families, lineages and dynasties to extract wealth from the public.

    CDC has already patented Ebola and its associated strains. If the public were to do a countersurgency or uprising, they would simply release a deadlier gain-of-function high-lethality disease. Accenture is already working with various network partners along with Microsoft’s blockchain patent to roll out a CDBC linked to your digital ID. It seems unbelievable, but it really is not. Coercion is possible with more economic resources and military power. The origin does not matter, but it’s likely that Fauci (as seen in the dossier files if searched on Qwant/Yandex) has stipulated that this bioweapon was created in the states and funded to the Chinese lab. Afterall, even globalist Trudeau admitted to liking the authoritarian model/regime way of running things.

  297. Ace 说:
    @Ace

    Correction. Not a “hotspot” by the lab. Rather: “the hospitals receiving the early patients are clustered along the Wuhan №2 subway line which connects the Institute of Virology at one end with the international airport at the other . . . .”

  298. Sarah 说:

    I remember very well the beginning of this pandemic in Wuhan : an European journalist and geopoliticsl analyst declared immediately : ” It’s an attack against China “.

    Your article confirms that totally.

  299. JasonT 说:

    I agree with this article except for these parts of (4) and (6):

    “(4) the plotters wrongly assumed that the same would be the case with Covid-19.”

    They assumed correctly, but due to the failure to cripple China with the bioattack, Plan B was enacted whereby the seasonal flu in the Western world was hyped into a killer disease so that the real Powers That Be (PTB) could start their takeover of the Western world. This move was made BEFORE the PTB wanted to make it but their failure against China required it because the PTB’s grip on the Western world was going to fail with the impending financial meltdown.

    “(6) Meanwhile, the lackadaisical and incompetent American government largely ignored the problem, only reacting after the massive outbreak in Northern Italy had gotten media attention. Since the CDC had botched production of a testing kit, we had no means of recognizing that the disease was already spreading in our country, and the result was massive damage to America’s economy and society. In effect, America suffered exactly the fate that had originally been intended for its Chinese rival.”

    No. The ‘pandemic’ in the Western world is largely fabricated through medical malpractice, effects lockdowns and outright lying by medical authorities. The disappearance of influenza as a cause of death in 2020 should be sufficient to tell you that.

  300. Art 说:

    The US government or the Chinese government — Hmm — who did Covid.

    Many times, the outcome of the truth of a crime, is more destructive than the crime itself. The guilt of a crime can be manipulated to destroy an otherwise good person for the rest of their life. In the case of Covid, it would be best if neither country is found guilty.

    All the Chinese citizens or all the American citizens would be held accountable for the crime, when neither people wanted or voted for this to happen.

    It would be best for the world if the Wuhan Lab was implicated in some way to the crime. Then both countries would be guilty – because both put money into the Wuhan Lab.

    p.s. The only true smoking gun in this crime, is that the Iran political leadership was attacked with Covid. This means Israel. The one country in the world, most likely to do something like this.

  301. utu 说:
    @That Would Be Telling

    1. John Malone – 2.2 million acres
    2. Ted Turner – 2.0 万英亩
    3. Emmerson 家族——2.0 万英亩
    4.芦苇家族——1.7万英亩
    5. Stan Kroenke – 1.4 万英亩

    50. 哈德利家族——260,000 英亩

    https://www.usatoday.com/money/

  302. Skeptikal 说:
    @israel shamir

    ” View it as 9/11. version 2, an attack on all of us. ”

    当然,它已经迎来了国际版的Gleichschaltung 2.0。

  303. Anon[264]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alfred

    奇怪的是,受教育程度越高的人似乎越容易上当受骗。

    No doubt, in my lengthy life I’ve found that high IQ and/or highly educated folks are without a doubt some of the stoopidest and most dangerous mother fuckers walking the planet.

    对于一个运行良好的文明的生存而言,个人良好的道德指南比高智商更为重要。

    • 回复: @Trinity
  304. Skeptikal 说:
    @Ron Unz

    “So all the technologies involved, including the particular types of virus, had long been developed by Ft. Detrick or our other biowarfare labs, and they were simply diverted and deployed by an unauthorized group of plotters, probably backed by someone at a pretty high level.”

    So you don’t agree with the Wade hypothesis?
    该病毒来自美国吗?
    并被带到中国?
    蝙蝠病毒从中国带到德里特里堡之后吗?
    因此,尽管蝙蝠女人博士发表了有关其工作的出版物,但与创建该病毒无关。

    Huh. Just doesn’t seem to meet any kind of Occam’s Razor requirement.

    Unz seems to be going out on a limb and create a few hoops to jump through in order to sideline the point of Wade’s work.

    为什么?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  305. lloyd 说: • 您的网站

    In the Old Testament and Torah, God takes the people of Israel out of bondage in Egypt by inflicting a plague that kills the first born of every Egyptian family. Since the publication of the Late Great Planet earth in the late 1960s, evangelical Americans have been gleefully looking forward to the apocalypse as prophesised in contemporary events. Many under their influence, must have taken up careers in the US alphabet agencies. Then there is the rise of extreme religious Zionism. These two groups form an indivisible bond of shared texts and apocalyptic beliefs. Then there is the odd issue of early infection in Iran and France. Lands of anti Zionsim and the Yellow vests. If any groups are capable of inflecting biological warfare, it is them. They live in mental worlds outside normal humanity. Both America and Israel have a recorded history of biological warfare. Not common with either, but biological warfare requires only a few operators.

  306. There are two curious events that occurred within the first day or two of the Western press picking up the story that shouldn’t be overlooked:

    A sports program on Taiwanese television reported at animated length on the dismal performance of the American military’s team at those Wuhan games, their main point being how could the US not seriously challenge China’s military, which apparently swept the games (we came in something like 30th place). I think the sportscasters’ inference was that either the American team was already sick when they arrived, accounting for their poor performance, or the team members were intelligence operatives masquerading with limited success as athletes.

    I looked into it and the US team apparently never does very well at these military games–maybe not so badly as in 2020 in Wuhan, but not unreasonably outside expected margins. On the other hand, many team members were hosptalized, if I recall, and the team does train near Ft Detrick, the bio-warfare facility in Maryland. And the facility had been roiled recently by internal politics of the type that could be triggered over a struggle whether to launch an attack like the one Ron suggests may have occurred.

    What I thought was most interesting about the Taiwanese television program, however, was its hat tip, in which it gave credit for the story idea to an Israeli blogger. What the hell is an Israeli blogger doing planting stories in Chinese media clearly intended to focus Chinese suspicions on the US as the source of the virus? But not in the mainland Chinese media, where authorities would be completely aware at the outset that the news story about the possible American involvement was prompted by a tip from Israel. But if the story entered the Chinese media through Taiwan, it would be sanitized of the Israeli interest–had the Taiwanese sports program not politely thanked the blogger with a hat tip.

    Why would Israel–or, at least, an Israeli–do this? Especially if, as Ron argues, the American plan (if there was one) was hatched and executed by Deep State neocons? There would be no incentive to plant the story if the goal of the bio-attack (if that’s what it was) was to damage the Chinese economy. There would be a lot of incentive, however, to give the Chinese traction on pointing a finger at the US if the neocon’s goal was conflict itself between China and the US. In such a case, it would be in the interests of the warmonger to not be identified to either party.There is a reason the Israeli Pledge of Allegiance is only five words long, “Let’s you and him fight.”

    Incidentally, if there were direct ties to Israel and the operation’s purpose was to increase conflict, the story of the Israeli confirmation of the US Defense Dept’s November 2019 caution is put in a much different light.

    The other oddity: does anyone remember on, like, day 2 of the media coverage an Israeli firm announced it had already discovered a successful vaccination, and then you never heard anything more about it? Almost like a clandestine operation had grown too big to keep all the squirrels herded and some over-eager neophyte hoping to cash in big had been unable to restrain himself and then was immediately shut down by a call from someone you’d better believe he’d obey, and the slavish American media, of course, dutifully played its treasonous role by never mentioning it again.

    • 回复: @Alden
    , @Skeptikal
    , @Wade
  307. Trinity 说:

    Some dude died of covid after being shot dead.

  308. Derer 说:
    @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    Your theory that people with diabetes died exclusively from Covid19 or people with high blood pressure died exclusively from Covid19 or people regardless with any preconditions died exclusively from Covid19. However, by implication then you are suggesting that people that survived (large majority) the Covid19 infection did not die because of good health. Good health is also precondition. Be consistent!

  309. Refl 说:
    @Realist

    I also read past that sentence in the vain hope to find some substantial information. Still, Ron Unz’s articles are a point of reference to me and the site maintains a unique range of views on the issue. And I am asking, why he is still riding on the corona train.
    The crisis is a virtual reality crisis, the thing is fake but it is taking on its own reality. Soon, there will be substantial death tolls, as the sheep are taking the vaccination of death. I would be happy to read Ron Unz’s article on Covid, the psycological weapon of mass destruction, with all its background, how responsible leaders worldwide were bullied into obedience. That would be a masterpiece!

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
  310. Ace 说:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    I have no doubt that lab negligence is a factor everywhere but failing to observe regulations or spilling something are negligence. Failing to devise proper regulations for something with so obviously hazardous is a failure of judgment. A junior lab tech can spill something; a responsible scientist with boatloads of training makes a bad judgment call on the wrong safety level.

    I failed to address Mr. Unz’s point about the early appearance of the virus in Iran. It fits nicely with the pre-Biden mad hostility to Iran so it’s a good point. “Oh-so-convenient target” does not, however, mean “only place that the virus will end up.” The age of the people killed undoubtedly has a bearing on the timing of the initial appearance of the virus. IIRC there was also a region in Italy that had an unusual number of cases, probably related to the large number of Chinese workers in that area. “Early appearance” and “high rate of infection” are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

    Another point I didn’t address is the possibility that U.S. perpetrators had good reason to think that the virus would not spread beyond China. Were I an analyst in the USG helping to prepare an ops plan for a deliberate release of a virus somewhere, I most certainly would not put my name to a paper that said don’t worry about uncontrolled spread. Swine and bird flu may have stayed down on the farm in China but the Spanish Flu went round the world in the blink of an eye measure even measured in dog years. You bet. Viruses stay contained. No worries, chief.

    All that said, I totally agree with your views on the “US and other Atlanticist thugs.” I once was the consummate cold warrior but since 1991 I think the U.S. and the Western world has sunk into the absolute depths. As a ZeroHedge commenter gcjohns1971 put it wrt a certain article,

    “The Petty, vain, venal, neurotic, obsessive, corrupt and cowardly denizens of our national political apparatus inherited the greatest concentration of wealth, industry, goodwill, and military power in 6000 years of history and squandered it in a single generation.”

    That still doesn’t adequately describe the satanic malevolence that has come to dominate in our times. Absolutely EVERY decision in the political, economic, fiscal, monetary, media, or educational realms is exactly the wrong decision. Every one.

    Even given that malevolence, I think there is still a measure of caution in the swine. Even U.S. aircraft carriers appear to be keeping their distance from Iran and the army doesn’t dare take on the Russians head to head in Syria or Ukraine. I don’t think the Joint Chiefs would in a thousand years rubber stamp a hair-brained scheme to release a bioweapon in China. Needless to say, I sympathize with my brothers below the rank of general officer who are abused and misused in this hideously stupid pursuit of “being back.”

  311. Skeptikal 说:
    @Ace

    “对美国经济和社会造成的巨大破坏,不是病毒造成的,而是官方灾难性的灾难性反应”

    最紧张的“反应”(缺乏反应)是对于被诊断为covid-19的患者无法采用所有可能的早期治疗方案。

    然后,对不合常规的moronic PCR测试的依赖,完全歪曲了该疾病严重程度的统计信息。

    然后,疾病预防控制中心决定更改填写“蓝色表格”中“死亡原因”部分的准则,这进一步破坏了统计数据,并为全面的恐慌打开了闸门。

    另一个伪科学是关于无症状传播的胡说八道。

    然后,尽管在我们的军事/医疗综合体的最高点进行了多年的“大流行模拟”,但对于PPE和充足的病床的需求却缺乏准备。 观看Paul Schreyer关于这些模拟的精彩视频,德语,但英语口语非常好:

    .
    IMO对covid-19泛/流行病的任何评论或分析都未能说明此视频中显示的信息,这是la脚的。
    仅模拟了警察的控制措施。 没有游戏/模拟医疗反应。

    然后,面具的疯狂是令人恐惧的蛋糕上的樱桃,Fauci扑朔迷离并造成混乱,混乱和恐惧。

    随之而来的还有掠食性动物/笨蛋,盖茨(由梅林达(Melinda)搭k)和福西(Fauci),以至于无法真正将它驯服。

    • 谢谢: Stonehands
    • 回复: @Ace
    , @Dumbo
  312. @Rev. Spooner

    Oh yeah, big expertise.
    1) Stand behind the fan.
    2) Hold your breath.

  313. Franz 说:
    @israel shamir

    但是Unz可能会考虑另一个版本:攻击的对象是全人类,而肇事者是梦of以求的《大复位》的达沃斯奇才。

    好东西。

    It fits with Ron Unz’s point above, that COVID is a low-lethality weapon and the effects would mostly be economic.

    美国机构数十年来一直对其本国人民发动战争,离岸,移民和无情地摧毁了曾经的中产阶级。

    对于他们来说,将其带到中国是有意义的,但是,在美国继续减少小型企业,独立思考班的意义甚至更大。

    Finance capital hates the idea of freedom; it engenders too many things finance can’t control. How happy they’ve been been forcing the idiotic mask and distancing mandates shows their sheer lust for totalitarian control.

  314. Trinity 说:
    @Anon

    And for the most part totally USELESS I might add. OVER-analyzing some horseshit over and over and over and over and over.

    Man, shit or get off the pot, already.

    Thank you, and Thank God Almighty there are sane people left.

    • 回复: @Anon
  315. @emersonreturn

    Clearly, evidence of Covid’s existence in the West is being suppressed.

    Yes, right now, it appears that Sputnik and Sinovac are by far the safest bets.

  316. Iva 说:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuKPBur_TiI……… ..中文书,描述制造流行和相关病毒的指令

  317. CauCasiAnn 说:
    @thotmonger

    On that note, watch the film “Contagion” from 2011. Seems it was a blueprint for Covid, if you ask me. Complete with terms like “social distancing”.

  318. Anon[264]• 免责声明 说:
    @Trinity

    “Man, shit or get off the pot, already.”

    Ah, yes, the data collection phase that never ends in the pursuit of ‘perfect’ information . . . and then they go off and fuck up whatever it is they were working on anyway, with often horrible results for all stakeholders (who have to clean-up the mess).

    At which point, the problem was obviously in the execution of ‘the plan’, the fault of the worker bees, not their own shit intellects.

    It goes hand-in-hand with a level of arrogance that is often breathtaking to behold, the ‘I got good grades, so that means I’m good at everything to which I set my mind.’ type of mindset.

    They really should be institutionalized for the protection of all, perhaps a special zoo or some such facility where we can throw them peanuts and they can fling their turds . . . safely from behind bars.

  319. utu 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    “Peter Forster’s group went silent” – His paper was trashed:

    https://www.pasteur.fr/en/research-journal/news/phylogenetic-analysis-sars-cov-2-strengths-limitations-and-over-interpretations

    没有证据表明SARS-CoV-2进化过程中存在不同类型,Oscar A MacLean等人。 (14年2020月XNUMX日)
    https://academic.oup.com/ve/article/6/1/veaa034/5827470

    The “Peter Forster’s group” seems to be a family enterprise with coauthors: Lucy Forster and Michael Forster

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
  320. dimples 说:
    @BlackFlag

    I agree. Why draw attention to your plot by using the military games where your own military is attending? This only draws conspiracy theorists to see this coincidence as ‘evidence’. It would be easier to just go into any Chinese shopping center or market with a hairspray spray can full of Covid or any of the many other methods that I am sure are found in military textbooks. If you take out the military games coincidence Mr Unz’s theory falls apart.

    But the real question for Mr Unz is: Who were the American games contestants and have any been tested positive for prior Covid? If he actually believes his theory perhaps he could ask around about this.

  321. @Morton's toes

    我同意。

    The theory that there is only one perpetrator while everyone else is either an intended or collateral victim seems to be too simple. In the modern world, you don’t need to have much technological capability to obtained a bio fluid with high viral load and unleash the disease on your enemy. Hell, even Sudan special services could probably have done that! There are so many conflicts in the world, too many to name or count…

    We will never know the true sequence of events. But it could be as follows (omitting the earlier history). The virus appears (somehow) in Wuhan. There it is recognised as lethal and highly dangerous (whether this is true or not). To avoid the lockdown, the virus carriers escape from Wuhan to other places around the globe. The chessboard is set.

    The secret services of many countries recognise the danger – and the potential for getting back at their enemies. The virus starts to pop up in different, sometimes unlikely, places.

    The bioweapon laboratories existing in many countries (e.g., USA has several in Ukraine and Georgia) all switch to studying – and modifying – the virus. New variants begin to appear, sometimes being quite different from the original virus.

    The countries that escaped the first wave are of particular interest – why are they spared?.. New variants are being tested in these countries and – bingo! – some of them work.

    If this (admittedly, borderline crazy) theory is correct, the second round of the virus wars will start after massive vaccination. Can a virus be created that only hits people vaccinated with this vaccine but not that one? If so, wait for the variants resistant to specific vaccines to appear around the globe.

    Just when am writing this, a news has arrived that Russia accused the USA of dragging other countries into the Biowarfare research, claiming that at least 16 US biolabs have been set close to the Russian borders. There is no direct accusation that these biolabs are dealing with covid-19, but something like that is implied between the lines.

    The problem is, once biowars have started, they are extremely difficult to stop. As said, spreading the virus is a low-tech operation, and can be performed by a small unit or a single (perhaps rogue) operative. It is very difficult to prove the origin of the virus. The deniability potential is huge, and so is the temptation to use the virus.

  322. Trinity 说:

    You have a better chance of being killed by a Great White than (((covid-19.)))
    You have a better chance of being killed by lightning than being killed by the “deadly virus.”
    You have a better chance of finding the Boogey Man under your bed than being killed by coronarona.

    Death is certain for EVERYBODY BREATHING. FACT: You will die of something, be it, a heart attack, cancer, automobile accident, whatever. Are you going to be afraid to live??????? I know some freaks think they will live forever but it taint happening on planet Earth.

    洛洛洛尔。

    This would be hilarious if it weren’t so damn pathetic.

  323. lysias 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I had a part-time job in the late 1990s transcribing NPR and CNN. I’d swear, whenever they mentioned the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, they always called it the “accidental bombing”. There must have been a memo instructing them to say that.

    • 谢谢: Ron Unz
  324. What a load of absolute twaddle.
    I particularly love how Wuhan, instead of being home to at least one bat-virus-splicing lab – which the US had to shore up with funds to keep a lid on their sloppiness – is miraculously transformed into “the major transport hub” which the Chinese somehow swiftly managed to shut down (but only for domestic travel).

  325. @Bigtone

    I have to agree with Bogtone. This is one of the weaker part of the Unz argument. It seems the only way to rescue it is to trot some sort of expert who can corroborate this time line. He does not do this.

    In general this article is disappointing. While his hypothesis is plausible, he does very little to further it in this latest instalment.

  326. Wild Man 说:

    What does ‘rogue elements affiliated with Deep State Neocons’ even mean? America is in the process of being usurped and overtaken by the ‘corporatist neoliberal globalism inclusive of the role necons play in that vein’, that want one world government (that will not be serving America, folks). If Mr. Unz means by ‘rogue elements affiliated with Deep State Neocons’ the ‘corporatist neoliberal globalists inclusive of the role necons play in that vein, that want an extremely elitist one-world government, that will not serve America, or the west, or the world’s populace (but constantly says they serve the world’s populace by misdirectional rhetoric) but will serve a small cabal of billionaires and their most important lever-pullers among the upper echelons of the international (actually globalist) technocracy’ …. this would make sense. This billionaire set tends to share a peculiar kind of fascism. The upper echelons of the technocratic set, that serve them (but whom also hugely benefit from this arrangement) display their own differing peculiar kind of fascism. The entire cohort (billionaires + the most powerful technocrats) is comprised of people from all parts of the world, at approximately per-capita-rates ethnicity-wise, except for one ethnicity, …. of interest, is that the Jewish ethnicity is represented within this cabal, at approx. the 25% level, which is approx. 100x more than would otherwise be expected, per-capita-wise. The globalist cabal has a definite Jewish flavoring to it.

    Now, … within the west, the populaces have been controlled (towards the above-mentioned cryptic globalist agenda) by many many false narratives. There are all kinds of signs that the covid narrative is so compromised as well. As such ….. our suspicions around covid shenanigans, should feature the globalist cabal as the most probable culprit, for the faux covid narrative as well (and the particulars of how that narrative is upheld …. inclusive of operational issues …. like the nuts and bolts of getting a pandemic going).

    Mr. Unz – please clarify as to what you precisely mean by ‘rogue elements affiliated with Deep State Neocons’.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  327. Alden 说:
    @Craig Nelsen

    Thanks. I remember an article in the local Jewish community newspaper the first week of March 2020 bragging about Israeli covid vaccine research. America locked down the following Tuesday.

  328. d dan 说:
    @anon

    “Guest37 [244] is representative of CIA’s frantic cognitive infiltration on this thread. A few hallmarks of the approach…”

    Added a further fact that Guest37 is the first time commenter here.

    This has happened many times in the last 1 year or so. Whenever Ron Unz publishes an article on his theory, you are going to see a few first time commenters appearing out of nowhere, pedaling whatever the story of the time favored by the CIA/Intelligence. Initially, it was the Beijing government “cover-up against their whistleblower” story, then the Wuhan lab leak theory. A few months ago, it was the LOCAL Chinese government “cover-up against Beijing government” story, etc. Now the natural occurrence theory.

    Given that this site has caught their attention (e.g. simultaneously censored by Google and Facebook -who has that power?), it should not be surprising nor difficult for them to insert a few commenters here or there to create some smoke.

  329. Billb 说:
    @supertjx

    “I’m surprised the Chinese have not made a concerted attempt to point the fingers back at the US. I have also not noted any serious discussion of this theory on Chinese political websites like guancha.

    What could be the reason for this?”

    The Chinese government wouldn’t want to be forced by their public opinion into responding immediately to such an overt act of war. They show similar behavior when it is necessary to tamp down anti-Japanese feelings- deleting unwanted comments, talking rabble-rousers into desisting etc.

    If they actually know what happened (perhaps they actually have hard evidence), who did it and that the blowback is sufficiently damaging to the perpetrators, then a private acknowledgment of such to, say, the US military, who is unlikely to have been involved or known about such a plan in advance, may well be preferable.

    A number of quite nasty things are known or suspected to have come from Ft. Detrick, including poisons and biological agents in glass ampoules intended for assassinations overseas, but of course there are other sites. The timeline of relaxed drone strike rules, African swine flu outbreaks, and the trade war all point to a decision to generally “take the gloves off” in late 2017. Ominously, “new strains” of swine flu are showing up this year, again threatening food security, after the Chinese pretty much had it licked.

  330. Ron, great article. Thanks.

    And the comments, many well-informed, add greatly to its importance, provide huge amounts of information.

    But … please store a copy of your archives and articles off-shore. Otherwise, when you disappear, they’ll disappear.

    You are another Julian Assange. Different breed, same species.

    For the first time, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, Nils Melzer, speaks in detail about the explosive findings of his investigation into the case of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.

    https://www.republik.ch/2020/01/31/nils-melzer-about-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange

    It was one of the largest leaks in the history of the3 U.S. Military. The U.S. immediately demanded that its allies inundate Assange with criminal cases. We aren’t familiar with all the correspondence, but Stratfor, a security consultancy that works for the U.S. government, advised American officials apparently to deluge Assange with all kinds of criminal cases for the next 25 years.

    That’s a tiny part of the article. But Ron, prepare for a deluge.

    再次感谢,

  331. dimples 说:
    @emersonreturn

    敬爱的女士,
    If you believe you and your husband got Covid in 2019, why not prove it or otherwise by getting a test? I am not suggesting you are incorrect in your beliefs, but actual evidence is better.

  332. utu 说:
    @Ron Unz

    “I’d be the first to admit that various groups and individuals are certainly taking advantage of the viral epidemic”

    And what about those who failed to take any advantage ending up with the worst of both worlds scenario? I am thinking about the so called the Right or the alt-Right. What is interesting that all those on the Right who are taken by the Grand Conspiracy Scenarios with Gates and Schwab playing the central roles failed to see the great opportunity the pandemic created for forwarding the goals for border closing, immigration reduction, reemphasis on nationalist economic development which most of them ostensively subscribe to. Instead they went with covid denialism and do-nothing approach and being the eternal victim of somebody else’s conspiracies.

    • 同意: Commentator Mike
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    , @Commentator Mike
  333. Skeptikal 说:
    @Craig Nelsen

    I remember something about this Israeli shot.
    And I recall that suspicions were immediately voiced in the alternative media.

  334. @Curmudgeon

    In other words, China kicked Jews out of their without anyone noticing.

  335. Wild Man 说:
    @utu

    Open border = a policy upholding the globalist cabal’s sub-agenda of weakening America, so as to better aid the globalist cabal’s ongoing usurption of American hegemony

    Open the immigration spigot = ditto

    Portray nationalism as evil = ditto

    Covid chaos leading to ongoing erosion of civil liberties = ditto

    It’s all of one piece.

  336. @Curmudgeon

    Where was this “metabolic disease” prior to the 1980s?

    • 回复: @Curmudgeon
  337. @Thomasina

  338. Biff 说:
    @Franz

    A nation that destroys its future as wantonly as the US has in this century is raising serious questions: Is it a nation or not?

    Someone once told me it is not a nation, but rather a ‘business’, and that has made the most sense to me, as we have seen in the past, businesses hollow out their own infrastructure as they restructure their holdings to accommodate the board members ideological and financial outlook for the future.

    The nation/business of America is basically a mirror image of its corporate counterpart.

    Useless eaters should take notice…

    • 回复: @Franz
    , @Anon
  339. @utu

    You mean “The Institut Pasteur, which is responsible for monitoring respiratory viruses in France”?

    The jiboneys whose utter ignorance of the early 2019 outbreak of Covid-19 in France suggests that they were and remain complicit in the Western coverup.

    Not only are the Pasteur folks incompetent, they did not ‘trash’ the Forster study, but correctly suggested that “the analysis should have been performed a second time with different samples to verify the stability of the results”.

    As to Dr. McLean’s claims, ask him whether he would prefer to be infected with the 2015 strain that was circulating in the USA or the current Indian strain?

  340. @Refl

    Refl, Mr. Unz has got his theory, and he’s stickin’ to it, come hell or high water. I don’t agree with him. However, if you look on this site, there’s an American guy who’s been living in Germany named C.J. Hopkins who’s done an excellent job in documenting the hysteria and the aim to make the world of 2020 the new normal, in numerous articles – at least a dozen. There is Mike Whitney, who also has written a few good articles on this PanicFest.

    It was somewhat untimely, but Mr. Unz put the great Conservative pundit Michelle Malkin on his site, right about the time of the ‘rona, and she had some choice things to say about it. As usual, they leaned toward life for the children, the schools, etc. as related to the stupidity of this PanicFest. There’s Ron Paul, who’s always a reasonable guy, and sees the new attacks on liberty for what they are, 20 years after the last big round.

    Again, the turning of this virus epidemic into Black Plague 2.0 (with talking heads with pie charts this time), the taking advantage of it to introduce a much more powerful Police State, and the not-so-small matter of it being used, along with the CheatFest, to oust Trump* IS the story here.

    As much as I think Mr. Unz is missing the big story here, he is a stand-up guy for having all these anti-panic writers on his site. Thank you, Ron Unz, for that!

    .

    * This one was even discussed multiple times by the illustrious Steve Sailer (an earlier panicker, but always the calm, reasonable type) also on this very blog. He writes so many, but try to find his posts about the delay of the introduction of the Pfizer vaccine from Oct. to Nov. of ’20, after the normal testing was completed. This was very blatant.

    • 回复: @Refl
    , @gsjackson
  341. @Trinity

    Robert Hunter, songwriter for The Dead, said it best:

    “If the thunder don’t get you, then the lightning will.”

  342. Ace 说:
    @Skeptikal

    Many thanks. That’s an insightful video. I watched the first part but am forced to save it for later viewing. I agree wholeheartedly that the American warfare state needed a new justification and it sure as hell wasn’t infrastructure renewal.

    Your comment matches my epiphany about the reality of the American state. I thought that the Cold War and America’s role in it were righteous and it all gave meaning and direction to what the U.S. did around the world. I’m not a believer that the Soviet threat was in any way a contrivance of the Cold Warriors but if I thought the Soviets a malevolent entity I now most certainly do NOT see Russia as being in any way a carbon copy of their criminal ways. Yet here we are beating the “Russian threat” like a rented mule and speaking of the Putin “dictatorship.”

    It’s all hideously contrived and the years since 1991 have stripped away the veneer from the “exceptional” nation. The reality is that there is a stunning malevolence at the heart of American society that satanic. See the comment of gcjohns1971 that I quote at comment 315, below. Absolutely NO decisions affecting the fortunes of the American republic or its citizens are intended to protect or advance the interests of either.

    [更多]

    Forgive me if I don’t do complete justice with regard to your comment but suffice it to say that the studied obtuseness of the so-called political class can be seen in the way that the “crisis” was handled. Americans accepted initial control measures because we understood there was a dearth of information about what the threat was. It quickly became apparent that there would be no principled national exploration of the threat and all sensible options. Instead we saw an amazing effort to keep such a debate from happening and to suffocate all mention of HCQ, vitamin D, sunshine, exercise, mortality rates, etc. The stats were distorted as you point out, the tests goosed, and prominent and obscure people punished, ridiculed, and deplatformed for daring to advance alternative views. Aka, for daring to spread “disinformation.” What persisted was a haphazard glop of half-baked, tendentious commentary from Fauci and precisely zero movement toward a refined and practical overall policy. Good luck discovering what exactly our policy is today. And the facts about the vaccine are murky at best and the official version suspicious at best.

    公民自由和言论自由在采取严厉措施的宪法权威的方向上几乎没有挥之不去的攻击。

    And then out of nowhere comes the bizarre Klaus Schwab with his presumptuous of course, children, we must now play a game of “52 Pickup.” You agree, of course, ignorant peasants. We, whoever we are, have it all figured out for you.

    It’s difficult to make the necessary adjustment from believing Western civilization was on a pleasant, salutary upward trajectory to greater prosperity and rational living to realizing that Western civilization is a nothing more than a sick joke and its elites sicker still. But I’m well on my way there.

    • 回复: @As I see it
  343. bayviking 说:

    Mr. Unz presents a plausible case against an institution both created and later condemned by Truman. An institution that JFK wanted to break into a thousand pieces, until he couldn’t anymore. An institution that begins every national and international crime with a patsy or false enemy State, to preserve “plausible deniability”. Two reasons Truman denounced the CIA he started is their meddling in domestic affairs and their assassination or overthrow of democratically elected politicians around the world, always in the name of democracy and freedom.

    There are more people here that consider Mossad to be responsible for everything that is wrong with this world. Israel is an extra-ordinarily violent nation, but the violence, terrorism, and size of the United States CIA, NSA, ans military industrial complex is second to none. While whining about Russian interference in US elections the USA has a record of ruthlessly interfering in the elections and business activities of almost every other country on earth, including at least one Russian election. That is just the tip of an iceberg. The USA has invaded other countries, bombed and tortured civilians and attempted to develop mind altering drugs and biological weapons, all to advance economic domination of the planet earth, today that would be US Libertarian (ie neo-liberal) capitalism.

    Never mind that the USA routinely creates economic crisis, various combinations of mass graves and migrations, blow back like 9-11 and once slavery and still poverty, instead of promoting the general welfare, always for the benefit of the ruling class. Never mind that it has probably murdered as many people as Hitler over the course of the last 250 years.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  344. Clyde 说:
    @Adam Grant

    China has 18.5% of the world’s population but only 7% of the world’s water, 70% of it polluted. Much of China’s farmland is polluted. In the coming years China’s need for expensive food imports will be the anchor around its neck. As Copley has stated, “China is finished.” If China is going down they want to take us with them.

    Add in the Three Gorges Dam which supplies 11 percent of China’s electricity. It was hit with very heavy rains last spring and almost came to a spillover state. The Chinese released tremendous amounts of waters to relieve the pressure, to prevent spill overs, thus flooding farmland and cities downstream. A disaster was averted but can happen any year if enough rains fall. If this dam blows China will suffer catastrophic economic losses and tremendous blow to their confidence. Chinese are superstitious about their emperors losing the “Mandate of Heaven” and this includes pig faced Xi Jinping and his cabal.

    The Mandate of Heaven (Chinese: 天命; pinyin: Tiānmìng; Wade–Giles: T’ien-ming, literally “Heaven’s will”) is a Chinese political and religious teaching that was used in ancient and imperial China to justify the rule of the King or Emperor of China. According to this belief, Heaven (天, Tian) embodies the natural order and the will of the just ruler of China, the “Son of Heaven” of the “Celestial Empire”. If a rul…

    • 哈哈: FB
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  345. Refl 说:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    没错,在电晕谎言上仍有大量信息可以进入该网站。 真正使事情变得糟糕的是一个尴尬的事实,那就是骗局已经过了自己的生活,并且即将灭绝。 我会与我认识的少数几个在此问题上很清楚的人保持联系。 家庭已经分裂,很大一部分已经失去了疫苗。 如果对疫苗效果的预测是正确的,那么在不久的将来我们将不得不面对一些严峻的现实。
    我发现的最好的作品之一(德语)非常清楚地表明:这是一项艰巨的任务,而我们所有人都不会在此过程中遭受严重的个人损失。 把它想象成一场战争,在那儿您知道您所爱的人中有一定比例将无法生存。 我对此绝对感到清醒,当我看到有恩茨先生聪明才智的人坚持虚假叙述时,我就失去了耐心。

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  346. Franz 说:
    @Biff

    The nation/business of America is basically a mirror image of its corporate counterpart.

    That works on at least one level: The high esteem American labor was accorded till the 70s or so, when Buckley and the Think Tanks decided they wanted cheaper help, and they saw a world full of it.

    An earlier and less stingy version would be the old Hudson Bay/Canada relationship, since trappers can’t be effectively be replaced by cheap labor countries. They had to be dealt with fairly as long as there was a demand for fur.

  347. John Wayne 说:
    @Tdstype2

    Yes indeed brave and written in plain English.

  348. Stonehands 说:
    @Sick of Orcs

    特朗普是一个演艺人员。 当他第一次赢得比赛时,他感到震惊,这完全显示出他的无能,他在他的内阁里放满了Neocon翻新鞋和无瑕的Jarvanka Habad-House双重特工。

    为了保证他不会获胜并且必须忍受4年的小丑车之旅,他于13月XNUMX日授权紧急状态扩大邮寄投票的规则,从而确保拜登获得胜利。

    特朗普现在很高兴。 他可以通过自己肮脏的网页永久地站在副业上,该网页没有评论部分,没有论述,没有很多标志-还有捐赠按钮,别忘了捐赠!

    我称之为选举流感。

    PS
    925,000人死亡! 保持混乱-您将近6万!

    • 回复: @Sick of Orcs
  349. Ron Unz 说:
    @Wild Man

    What does ‘rogue elements affiliated with Deep State Neocons’ even mean?…Mr. Unz – please clarify as to what you precisely mean by ‘rogue elements affiliated with Deep State Neocons’.

    I actually tried to partially clarify that in a previous comment upthread:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-truth-and-the-whole-truth-on-the-origins-of-covid-19/#comment-4647833

    Mike Pompeo and John Bolton would be the most prominent among the “Deep State Neocons” I’m describing, and the leading candidates in the Trump Administration for having organized the plot. Whether or not they were personally involved I can’t say, but there were lots of others in their immediate circle who fall into the same category.

  350. The one thing I would be interested in that I have not seen much discussed:

    98% of what we were told about HIV / AIDS also must be viewed now as complete bullocks. I need to read Duesberg’s book again.

    [更多]

    It is showing as out of print and a used copy is > 100\$!

  351. gsjackson 说:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    True, but a long-form Unz-Pravda type treatment of all the steps taken and money dispensed by the likes of the World Bank and IMF, in order to ensure an unprecedented uniformity of response around the globe, would really move the discussion forward.

  352. denk 说:

    [If you tried to write in English instead of ranting like a lunatic with bizarre and mysterious jargon, your comments might have more value.]

    Too much BS in the comments, too little time.

    Do you know that for every major pandemic that ravaged the world in these past century, there’s a fukus 高尔夫球 program behind it. ?

    fukus did 高尔夫球 on Ebola in Africa, that pandemic hit the continent in 2014. [1]

    [更多]

    2013
    FUKUS did 高尔夫球 on BUbonic in Kazakhstan, that plague hit China in 2014, triggering a 锁定, [2]

    2013
    fukus did 高尔夫球 on Dengue in Pak, that pandemic exploded in the country [3]

    fukus did 高尔夫球 on bird flu H5N1, H7N9 and publicise its methodology, China has been devastated by the two virus repeatedly, the outbreak in 2013, 2020 decimated Chinese poultry industries. [4]

    Fukus did 高尔夫球 on coronavirus since 2008, SARS1, SARS2 devastated China in 2003, 2020. [5]

    冰山一角…。

    [1]

    Basson is surrounded by cloak-and-dagger intrigue, as he told Pretoria High court in South Africa that “The local CIA agent in Pretoria threatened me with death on the sidewalk of the American Embassy in Schoeman Street.” According to a 2001 article in The New Yorker magazine, the American Embassy in Pretoria was “terribly concerned” that Basson would reveal deep connections between Project Coast and the United States.

    https://www.activistpost.com/2014/10/secret-project-created-weaponized-ebola.html

    [2]

    When it opens in September 2015, the \$102-million project laboratory is meant to serve as a Central Asian way station for a global war on dangerous disease. And as a project under that Pentagon program, the Defense 减少威胁 Agency, the lab will be built, and some of its early operation funded, by American taxpayers.

    The far-flung biological threat reduction lab may look like a strange idea at a time of various sequester outbreaks, but officials say it’s an important anti-terror investment, a much-needed upgrade to a facility that has been described as an aging, un-secure relic of the 1950’s, and one that the Defense Dept. fears can’t keep pace in an era of WMD.

    hint to newbie,
    帝国观察法则1
    Feed everything coming out of fukus into an 逆变器 and you’d be fine.

    呵呵呵呵

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/4xxk7g/why-the-us-is-building-a-high-tech-plague-lab-in-kazakhstan

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @RobinG
  353. Stonehands 说:
    @Publius 2

    同意!

    但是这里的评论是什么呢? 彼此坠落,成为罗恩“ 925,000”恩兹的小鹿。

    Oy vey-它的周年纪念Shoah!

  354. @Ron Unz

    Mr. Unz, have you read Josh Rogin’s book 天堂下的混乱? Yes, the author is a neocon to some degree. From what you wrote above, I figure you may have read it – the characters you mention and their ideas about China are in this book.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @MEH 0910
  355. stanloona 说:

    I wont’ dismiss it out of hand because I am interested in the truth no matter how uncomfortable it is for my belief system. I’m not fan of the American deep state after they stole the election and are waging a war on (of) terror against conservatives. However I also despise the Chinese communist state. Just because the American right’s anti-China propaganda is on the level of the Weekly World News doesn’t mean China is good. Its just basic History 101, Great Powers are naturally going to abuse their power. It has nothing to do with race or even the individual history of the countries its just a geopolitical fact. So while I think a lot of the stuff we read about the Uighurs and other stuff is exaggerated I think a lot of it is real.

    While I respect Mr. Unz for his ability to go against the crowd even if that crowd are his most ardent supporters I just can’t shake the fact that Mr. Unz seems unequivocally pro-China. Unz dot com for all its diverse viewpoints doesn’t have a single China critic. Unz prominently features Larry Romanoff who seems like a white pro-China troll if anything else. I just don’t find Unz objective enough to believe his analysis.

    The idea that the US deep state launched this virus and it hilariously boomranged on them seems like the wet dream of many anti-Americans. I think anti-Americans have a lot of good reasons for why they are anti-American but like all hate circle jerks it becomes trapped in its fever dreams. The US military released Covid on poor innocent China to hurt their economy because we are in a so called cold war with China (while many leading American elites and institutions DEFEND China for monetary reasons) seems 1000 times more insane than the Israel did 9/11 so they could get the US to launch wars in the Middle East theory. Mainly it seems to deny basic human nature that these people no matter how high on their own power and sense of invincibility they may be would take a MASSIVE GAMBLE like that. Also Unz seems to exist in another reality where most of the American elites are anti-China. There’s plenty of China hawks but there’s also a lot of China collaborators.

    Finally I feel whenever there’s a type of wish fulfillment at work whenever large groups of people on the internet try to “crack” these mysteries. If your greatest fear is that you don’t want to be seen as a rightwing crackpot you’re going to believe that it was a bat in a wet market that caused COVID or whatever CNN tells you. If you hate China you’re going to believe the Wet Market theory or the Chinese incompetence lead to the virus being leaked from a lab theory. If you hate America (which now includes many right wingers) you’re obviously going to gravitate towards the American deep state leaked it in China theory. I would just like to hear analysis from someone I can trust to be objective and only desire for the truth and nothing else. Mr. Unz has not shown me he is that person.

  356. Yee 说:

    Whataboutery2020,

    “I particularly love how Wuhan, …… – is miraculously transformed into “the major transport hub” which the Chinese somehow swiftly managed to shut down (but only for domestic travel).”

    Wuhan has always been the transport center of China due to geographical location. It’s easy to shut down travel because you only need to stop passengers getting on and off trains/planes at Wuhan, the trains/planes still run as scheduled, they still go to Wuhan, just nobody gets on and off.

    International flights were not stopped because China can hardly stop foreigners leaving the country. If I remember correctly, various foreign governments put on great shows evacuating their citizens, big smiles on faces, national flags waving, etc.

  357. The US authorities know that if a natural origin for COVID is not discovered within a couple of years, a laboratory origin will be presumed. They also know that the Chinese will forcefully deny that the lab of origin was in Wuhan. Therefore any stories of a deliberate US biowarfare attack are a gift to the CCP; and the US authorities have a motive to suppress such stories, even if they know they are completely unfounded.

    The Iranian infections might be interpreted as the goal of a hypothetical US attack; or they might be a coincidence. The World Military Games are an irrelevance, because it would have been easier and much less obvious for a lone agent posing as a commercial traveler to spread the virus. The DIA early warning was explained by a commenter on an earlier article: the problems in Wuhan were probably clear for anyone in the city to see, including the US consulate; but the local CCP hesitated to send the bad news to Beijing.

    There was no biowarfare attack but, regrettably, the USA does share culpability with the Chinese.

    We know (e.g. see Nicholas Wade’s article) that gain-of-function experiments on COVID were carried out at Wuhan, funded by the USA, approved by Anthony Fauci who used a loophole to override a US ban on such work, and managed by Peter Daszak. Daszak went on to commit perjury when he declared no competing interests in his authorship of the letter to the Lancet. Wade also points out that for reasons of convenience the work was performed at the inappropriately low safety level of BSL-2, not BSL-4.

    Anthony Fauci and Peter Daszak have overdosed on hubris, but they are not fools. They know perfectly well the implications of the above. They cannot be certain where COVID came from, but they know that they share responsibility for a situation in Wuhan that was capable of creating COVID in the laboratory and then accidentally leaking it.

    Wade also makes clear that any virologist who publicly opposes the “natural origin” theory will be committing professional suicide. His research grants would stop getting approved, and without research funding he would eventually lose his job.

    On top of that, if you were a research virologist, what kind of work would you prefer to do? Use the latest genetic engineering techniques to create and study deadly pathogens previously unknown to science? Or search for some detail of the Tobacco Mosaic Virus that has been overlooked by earlier researchers?

    These are the powerful reasons why professional virologists have closed ranks and promoted the “natural origin” theory of COVID. It is why the bad news must be broken not by a virologist, but by a science journalist, and published in a journal founded by scientists of a different discipline altogether: The Bulletin Of The Atomic Scientists.

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    (which has the same content as the medium article)

  358. Ron Unz 说:
    @Skeptikal

    So you don’t agree with the Wade hypothesis?
    该病毒来自美国吗?
    并被带到中国?
    蝙蝠病毒从中国带到德里特里堡之后吗?
    So, Dr. Bat Woman had nothing to do with creating the virus, despite her publications about her work?…Unz seems to be going out on a limb and create a few hoops to jump through in order to sideline the point of Wade’s work.

    I’ve tried to make my views very clear and explicit in all my articles, including this latest one:

    Having now twice read Wade’s long article, I can say that I find nearly all of his scientific arguments quite compelling, and I have almost no points of significant disagreement. Yet my overall conclusions are entirely different from his…Although Wade is absolutely correct in stating that “there are two main theories” about the origins of Covid-19, this duality has been enforced by political pressures…

    And if these were the only two possible theories, all arguments against the one would necessarily support the other. But this framework is upended once we recognize that there is a third logical possibility, far more vilified and excluded than that of the “lab-leak hypothesis” but also far more plausible and supported by much stronger evidence.

    Wade makes a very strong and compelling case against the virus being natural. But he provides almost no evidence supporting the Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis. Sure, Wuhan’s “Bat Lady” was working on bat viruses. But all of her American colleagues were also working on bat viruses. Bat Lady published articles about genetic work on bat viruses, but enormous numbers of other American researchers have also published articles about genetic work on bat viruses. As Whitney Webb’s important article from Jan. 2020 discussed, bat viruses are among the most common subjects of all viral research, especially bioweapon research:

    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

    There’s essentially ZERO evidence that Covid-19 was developed in the Wuhan lab, and ZERO evidence that there was a lab-leak. Indeed, as I emphasized in my article, the remarkable timing of the initial outbreak is *极其* suspicious, while an accidental lab-leak would obviously be entirely random.

    Maybe Ft. Detrick developed the virus from an precursor they had originally gotten from Wuhan. Who knows? Maybe they got it elsewhere. Maybe it wasn’t Ft. Detrick. All of this is pure speculation, far beyond any of the available evidence.

    The key point is that since Baker and Wade have only considered the natural and lab-leak scenarios, all their evidence against the natural case automatically supports the lab-leak alternative. But my whole point is that there’s a third possibility much more likely than either of them.

    • 同意: As I see it, GomezAdddams
    • 回复: @Chrisnonymous
  359. Ruckus 说:
    @Just another serf

    There’s a reason why women are often referred to as “chicks.”

  360. Ron Unz 说:
    @Refl

    没错,在电晕谎言上仍有大量信息可进入该网站……我对此绝对感到清醒,当我看到有恩茨先生的聪明才智的人坚持虚假时,我就失去了耐心。叙述。

    实际上,我对所有疯狂的流感骗子都感到厌烦,他们以完全无关的废话堵塞了这个评论线程,我想我会做出安排,开始删除他们的评论。

    一旦他们的冗长而详尽的评论中的所有内容被浪费掉了,也许他们就放弃了,去了别的地方。 如果我真的很幸运,也许他们会很生气,他们将永久放弃该网站。 我确信肯定会有一些Flu Hoaxer网站在他们附近会变得更加快乐。

    • 巨魔: Stonehands, Chrisnonymous
  361. @stanloona

    That was probably the best comment I’ve read on here so far, Stan. However, I take issue with your last paragraph. I am not someone who hates China and the Chinese people though I agree completely with your 3rd paragraph. I don’t think you have to hate China though, to believe the this virus likely came out of the Wuhan lab by accident.

    Besides Occam’s razor and all that, I know China, having been there an infinite times more than Mr. Unz (11 times) and Chinese people. It’s simple. Quality is not Job 1. They take shortcuts, and there is corruption at every level of society. The tradeoff is more speed and productivity for lower quality. I’ve seen it.

    The other Chinese characteristic that would apply here is that, after this virus had gotten out of the lab and infected people, it’s not like anyone was just going to up and come clean. Forget it, Stan. It’s ChinaCountry.

  362. Wild Man 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Thank-you for the reply. Such plot that you describe (featuring Neocons Mike Pompeo and/or John Bolton, or not + probable other Neocons) …. what would the motivation be, for said group, to subvert Amercian geopolitics, by way of the provision of tension around bioweaponization suspicions (or perhaps even by way of an ill-executed attempt at actually using a bioweapon against the Chinese people, to hurt their economy, as you hypothesize) with America’s largest rival?

    If your answer is – ‘a lame and unauthorized attempt at delaying China’s inevitable erosion of American hegemony’, then my next question would be – whose interest (which cohorts) does this American hegemony serve? Like why would said Neocon plotters want to risk their necks … what is the incentive? Such incentive must be rich indeed. Who provides said incentive?

    • 同意: Wizard of Oz
  363. denk 说:
    @Ron Unz

    RU

    some rogue elements

    .
    Leonard G. Horowitz,

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    Who is behind this COVID madness? I accept the risk of triggering your “conspiracy theory” buttons by identifying the widely recognized “全球军事-医学-石油化学-制药卡特尔”是唯一可以行使必要的权力以实现这些令人恐惧的结果的嫌疑人

    In the days preceding the emergence of the first COVID cases, American raced to the Pacific Rim to impact escalating aggressions on SCS, TW. Communist China-a “most favored” trading partner with America, is politically allied with several American enemies, including those said to possess weapons of mass destruction, including Iran. Coincidental? Not likely when viewing the larger political picture involving the Ango-American oligarchy’s RMA and instigated “conflicts short of war.”

    最终,“我们人民”已成为这一最新恐惧及其所服务的更大政治议程的最大受害者。

    Respiratory Syndrome stretching from Asia to North America has all the earmarks of a novel social experiment in population manipulation aimed to culture the mass mind for the arrival of “the Big One“-a biological agent that will facilitate decimation of approximately a third to half of the world’s population, in keeping with current official population reduction objectives.

    XNUMXD压花不锈钢板 大的一个 !
    Is Free Introduction 它 ?

    http://whale.to/a/sars2.htm

    RU

    If you tried to write in English instead of ranting like a lunatic with bizarre and mysterious jargon, your comments might have more value

    gof = gain of function,
    fukus = fuck uk, us.
    [I’d expect everybody knows it by now.]

    疯子

    I counted hundreds in this thread alone.

    呵呵呵呵

  364. @Anastasia

    You indeed have me stumped Anastasia AND we American people deserve MUCH better—this entire gong show in DC is nauseating.

  365. Ron Unz 说:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr. Unz, have you read Josh Rogin’s book Chaos under Heaven? Yes, the author is a neocon to some degree. From what you wrote above, I figure you may have read it – the characters you mention and their ideas about China are in this book.

    Isn’t he that 瓦坡 lab-leak Neocon? I’ve never heard of his book, but why in the world would I want to read that sort of garbage?

    I’ve been following China for over forty years, and for over forty years all my predictions have turned out to be correct.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/chinas-rise-americas-fall/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-long-decline-of-the-london-economist/

    Meanwhile, all the Neocons I know are total idiots, who’ve always been wrong about everything and most of them should have been hanged for treason years ago. So why should I read something by someone who should probably be dangling from a noose.

    As for you, I think you occasionally brag about knowing a great deal about China, but I can’t think of one intelligent thing you’ve ever said in that topic.

    • 同意: denk
    • 哈哈: Dumbo
  366. Anon[264]• 免责声明 说:
    @Biff

    Someone once told me it is not a nation, but rather a ‘business’. . .

    美国的业务是 商科 – always has been, always will be – everything else is a fairy tale.

    • 回复: @Biff
  367. @Sparkylyle92

    The true Fourth Possibility is Israel. China, their great enemy because the Chinese refuse to treat the ‘Gods Upon the Earth’ as anything but fellow human beings, then Iran. QED.

    • 回复: @Sam J.
  368. @The Soft Parade

    Blame China with lying filth even more insane than the ‘Xinjiang genocide’ garbage, then either demand trillions in ‘compensation’ from China, or use it as a casus belli. The Murdoch cancer and its necrotic metastases are pushing the deliberate leak insanity with increasing racist fervour. It will soon graduate to the polite fakestrream media, them become an ‘established fact’ like ‘Saddam’s WMD’ and a thousand other Imperial Lies.

  369. A Jew spinning more lies about a fake flu hoax and calling it truth.

    • 同意: Publius 2
  370. @Just another serf

    Imbecile comment. Anthropogenic climate destabilisation is rapidly worsening, and no amount of psychopathic Rightwing denialism will make it go away. But by God I wish the denialist enemies of Life on Earth would.

  371. @Ace

    Perhaps Gandhi was right all along.

    When a reporter asked him what he thought of Western civilization, he famously replied: “I think it would be a good idea.”

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Ace
  372. @Trinity

    You have a better chance of being killed by a Great White than (((covid-19.)))

    In the United States, even considering only people who go to beaches, a person’s chance of getting attacked by a shark is 1 in 11.5 million, and a person’s chance of getting killed by a shark is less than 1 in 264.1 million. (wikipedia)

    So far the risks of dying of Covid-19 in the US are about 1 in 558. I wonder where you pull out your statistics.

  373. @Nancy O'Brien Simpson

    very emotional comment Madame. How is it that the covid thing would be so dangerous in the US of A and would have “killed”so few people in France for instance… This year, there has been only 75 flu victims instead of 15-18000… Maybe the covid thing became the bully of the year among the mob viruses realm and told the others (hundreds of them) to accept the new boss in town…

    What about the great reset, what about this?…https://www.clubofrome.org/publication/a-system-change-compass-implementing-the-european-green-deal-in-a-time-of-recovery/

    有一个好的一天

  374. @Cranberries

    Bingo. What did the fallout from 9/11 have in common with the fallout from covid19? Answer; the ptb used both to create massive public fear as a pretext to usurp our freedoms in the name of “public safety”. The lefties called out the patriot act and rightfully so. Conservatives are now the only ones pushing back against dracoconian measures now. The ptb has polarized us to insure atleast half the country will support anything they do to take our rights away if for no other reason but to spite the “other side”.

  375. Those among you who speak French, might be interested in another work on the origins of the covid thing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wul4z8pmzU

    Brice Perrier is a journalist

  376. @utu

    But you see the alt-righters are so obsessed with the truth; they are the ultimate truth seekers. They would consider it unethical to use lies to further their cause. Ha, ha, ha.

  377. @Alfred

    Thank you for this very relevant comment. French interest have also played a role in all of this… Check for Buzyn, her husband Levy and the first “conseil scientifique” which, according to Prof Raoult was mainly political. And who built the P4 Wuhan Lab?

    https://www.franceculture.fr/sciences/le-laboratoire-p4-de-wuhan-une-histoire-francaise

    We should also have a look at the Winnipeg University links with Wuhan… What was Charles Lieber really doing in Wuhan, was he working as the specialist of nano-tech? On what project?

    • 同意: Alfred
  378. @Ron Unz

    Mike Pompeo and John Bolton would be the most prominent among the “Deep State Neocons” I’m describing, and the leading candidates in the Trump Administration for having organized the plot. Whether or not they were personally involved I can’t say, but there were lots of others in their immediate circle who fall into the same category.

    If they carried out this plot, involving many others in the biowarfare labs, and others, presumably in the US military, to spread the virus to China, could they have kept it secret from others in the security services and the deep state? Once this backfired on the US, wouldn’t have those others in the security services and the deep state have liquidated all those involved instead of allowing them to carry on living and prospering? I know the US is not the old Soviet Union, where any such would have been eliminated with extreme prejudice, and they allowed in the past those who conspired against America to live, like those involved in the attack on 自由号 and the cover up, the attack on 911 and the cover up, but this is too big, having killed nearly a million Americans so far, including many relatives and loved ones of those in the secret agencies and the deep state who are presumably in the know, to just let it slide. Even if they planned this as some attack on China and Iran that they though could be contained, surely the culprits would not have been left unpunished once it boomeranged back on the US.

    • 同意: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @lysias
  379. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    G7 jackasses had their big meeting and India was a guest –not a single word —about Covid and how to help—-all these useless idiots talked about was Russian interference and China rising. China has heled india more than either Canada or UK and as for the Chinese releasing Covid —Mother Nature plays tendem—why then was there Covid in Barcelona Spain March 2019 and Milan September 2019 and France November 2019? Now lets talk about Greta Thundberg and how cow flattulence is warming the world –it will be a no GO in India and again –that damned Mom Nature with her tectonic sons under the Poles and deep in ocean troughs –opening and closing those gates of supreme heat in core of —-this planet….. eyes wide open….

  380. @stanloona

    I agree with 2 caveats. (1) I agree with Achmed E. Newman that you don’t have to hate China to believe in the lab leak hypothesis. (2) It may be that Unz is anti-war instead of pro-China. It looks a lot like pro-China, and there are other “conservative personalities” on the Internet who are pro-China like “Spandrell”. It’s disturbing, but it may be anti-war instead.

    The thing that’s really disturbing is that if Unz is actually anti-American on this topic, what does it say about his pro-Hispanic-immigration position? What does it say about the purpose of this website?

  381. Dumbo 说:

    I now agree that it was probably created in a lab, because it’s a weird disease with weird symptoms that doesn’t match a regular flu. They were working with bats at Wuhan, so it’s a very likely possibility.

    That said, I don’t buy the “bioweapon” theory. It’s just a classic example of “create the problem, sell the solution”. Many powerful wanted for a while a pandemic to push those mRNA vaccines, cashless society, mandatory tracking of people’s health data, etc. This, real or artificial, was a gift to them. I’m betting on artificial.

    Now the EU is creating “vaccine passports” that accept only Western vaccines, but not the Chinese CoronaVac nor the Russian Sputnik. Why? It’s quite clear at this point that the issue is not about health or safety, but merely about money and control.

  382. Dumbo 说:
    @Ron Unz

    It’s not the flu, it’s pneumonia.

    It’s not a bioweapon in the classic sense – the objective s not to kill people in a specific country (it’s global!), and, while being a very bad nuisance, and actually affecting the health of many people, it doesn’t work as a bioweapon and doesn’t massively kill people in one specific spot, but it’s very spread out, with a relatively low mortality rate. Even the CIA is not that incompetent, I think.

    But, it’s great for selling billions of vaccines, as well as promoting a lot of changes in society that a lot of powerful people already wanted anyway.

    崔bon?

  383. Garliv 说:
    @Wade

    ……it’s obvious this announcement was the intended followup and response to Event 201 and the the WEF was fully aware of the impending catastrophe before US intelligence agencies were (unless of course the WEF works in tandem with US intelligence agencies).

    The more i think about it the more i tend to side with your theory. And your theory does supplement Unz’s theory for I cannot think of a scenario where WEF billionaires would undertake such an operation without knowledge and even assistance of intelligence agencies in the US. It is of course well known that billionaires such as Soros do work with CIA for their regime change tactics and also using billionaires’ NGOs to gather intelligence and stroke discord wherever they want. Thus its a most compelling rationale that that the WEF billionaires and intelligence community are all behind Covid-19 and the ongoing Great Reset and have been working together. That’s the most rational argument so far.

  384. Sarah 说:
    @Tor597

    3) America has an extensive history of germ warfare use

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/04/09/new-revelations-on-germ-warfare-its-time-for-a-reckoning-with-our-history-from-the-korean-war/

    https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/a-concealed-war-crime-u-s-anthrax-bombings-of-china-during-the-korean-war-14782ceb40a9

    Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!
    Revelation for me!

    A few months ago, I learnt also some information about the so-called “spanish-flu” from 1917. I wrote “so-called” because only Spanish medias spoke about this disease ; such information was censored in other European countries, at war in 1917.
    I learnt also that the first known case of this flu was detected in USA… 😏😏😏

  385. @Ron Unz

    基本上有零证据表明Covid-19是在武汉实验室开发的,而零证据表明存在实验室泄漏。

    That’s true, except that the Chinese have not been very transparent about WIV. If their records all pointed against problems at the lab, they would let the WHO team (which seems pretty pro-Chinese anyway) look at everything in order to clear their names and point the finger at the US.

    Also, if it’s true that COVID came from US intelligence, the absence of evidence of a lab leak is actually strange. If it were a set-up, you would expect some planted evidence. I note that your theory involves rogue elements in the intelligence community. This is, of course, not demanded by the evidence, but it is demanded by the odd lack of evidence. A few conspirators without enough resources could explain why no evidence of a lab leak was made up or planted, but the full financial resources of the CIA and other agencies and with all their black arts at their disposal does not explain such a big lacuna in a plan.

    Indeed, as I emphasized in my article, the remarkable timing of the initial outbreak is *极其* 可疑

    Unz,您是个脑筋大的数学家,而我不是。 你可以解释吗 形成一种 引人注目的时机是? 农历新年大约每12个月一次。 而且,由于您建议可能对伊朗爆发以及先前在中国爆发的农业病毒爆发进行无人驾驶飞机袭击或其他事情,因此对于您的理论而言,世界军事运动实际上并不是必需的。 只是 为什么 is the timing *极其* suspicious, rather than a little unusual or just maybe chance?

    而意外的实验室泄漏显然完全是随机的

    That is, of course, not true. There are lots of things that could possibly make a lab-leak non-random. I have worked in health care before, and I (or anyone who has worked before in an environment that requires constant vigilance to prevent mistakes) can tell you that there are many factors that contribute to mistakes. Excessive drinking, anxiety about seeing relatives, excitement to get home–these are things that might be affecting people’s performance in a run-up to a holiday. And that is a very small set of examples.

    也许英尺。 Detrick最初是从武汉获得的一种前体开发出这种病毒的。 谁知道? 也许他们在别处得到它。 也许不是。 德特里克。 所有这些都是纯粹的推测,远远超出了任何现有证据。

    确实。 正如我在上面的评论中指出的那样,一种与您一样支持的理论是,中国人正在开发生物武器,以准备在美国总统大选期间制造混乱,但是美国情报部门对此颇为关注。 精心策划 为了防止攻击而进行的实验室泄漏(而不是自己介绍)。 至少这个理论的好处是 supported by “evidence” that the Chinese had long-term plans to disrupt the US health care system with a Coronavirus...

    关键是,由于Baker和Wade仅考虑了自然和实验室泄漏的情况,因此他们针对自然情况的所有证据自动支持了实验室泄漏的替代方案。 但我的意思是,还有第三种可能性 更有可能 比他们中的任何一个都重要。

    First, it’s not true that Wade only presents evidence against a natural source. For example, he discusses the various levels of safety precautions used at WIV. This is not evidence like a document saying there was some accident at WIV but it is suggestively circumstantial.

    Second, I don’t think your theory is “much more likely” than the lab leak hypothesis. Besides the laughably “suspicious” timing of the “Military World Games attack” apparently happening 3 months (!) before Chinese New Year (27 Octo 2019 to 25 Jan 2020), your theory seems to be supported by only two other legs–the purported DIA warning and the Iranian outbreak.

    Recently, you, Unz, have been doing God’s work promoting Glenn Greenwald’s essays in your news links. One of Greenwald’s main themes is that journalists these days are just gossip-mongers who repeat anything salacious that is likely to get clicks. So, I don’t understand why you promote Greenwald’s writing but, when it comes to this DIA warning, place so much faith anonymously-sourced articles that provide no evidence. For the last four years–indeed, this trend was apparently heightened during the Trump administration–journalists seem to have been happy to put into print any old thing they were told by an “anonymous source”. I, for one, would not build a theory of geopolitical wrangling based around some rag’s unsourced claims.

    But, but! Let’s assume the DIA warning to NATO and Israel was real. Is it really out of the realm of possibility that the US intelligence community knew about a spreading pandemic in Wuhan before the CCP? I don’t think so at all, for two reasons. First, the CCP is institutionally constituted to reject bad news. Anyone who doubts this just has to look to the example of the original whistle-blower eye doctor who tried to warn the government about the pandemic and was shut down by party operatives. Second, it is very possible that WIV personnel may have tried to hide a lab leak from the authorities for reasons of self-protection but on the other hand not have tried to hide a lab leak from any US intelligence sources for the simple reason of not knowing they were compromised by US intelligence. In fact, when you consider the potential importance of the WIV to war scenarios and the involvement of the US in the WIV, it would be remarkable if US intelligence hadn’t tried to infilltrate the WIV in order to know about things like lab leaks. So, even if the DIA had warned allies about a pandemic back in October or November, I don’t think this is in any way a “smoking gun.”

    As for the Iranian outbreak, you, Unz, yourself have pointed to reasons to disbelieve through your comments in the above article on “the whole truth”. That is, your articles that reference the Iranian outbreak speak of it as a suspicious coincidence, but they demonstrate no attempt by you to disprove the suspicion. In other words, you appear to be telling the truth, but perhaps not the whole truth…

    I am not an expert on the course of the COVID outbreak, but I did spend a few minutes during my lunch break today Googling the COVID outbreak in Iran. And, lo and behold, the suspiciousness of the Iranian outbreak’s timing, victims, and circumstances looks much less than after I initially read your articles. I will post below just a few select articles to let readers judge for themselves (while noting that this is not by a long measure the totality of the articles), but point out first just a few dates…

    22 Feb 2020 – first 死亡 在意大利
    30 Jan 2020 – first case in India

    3 Feb 2020 – Diamond Princess quarantined in Japan
    20 Jan 2020 – first case in South Korea

    19 Feb 2020 – first case in Iran
    21 Feb 2020 – first case in Israel

    25 Jan 2020 – first case in Australia
    31 Jan 2020 – declared “public health emergency” in USA
    31 Jan 2020 – first confirmed case in UK
    27 Jan 2020 – first case in Canada

    As you can see from the above dates, your theory that “early” outbreaks in Asian countries around China were normal but that “early” outbreaks in Iran were abnormal is wrong. Outbreaks occurred around the world at the same time, including in Israel and the USA’s “five eyes” allies and NATO countries.

    It’s obvious why this was the case in many places since Wuhan was a hub of international as well as domestic Chinese business and travel, but why was it the case in Iran? Well, here I leave readers to search and think for themselves…

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-iran-qom-idUSKBN21K1NO
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/world/middleeast/iran-suleimani-zarif.html
    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-iran-became-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak
    https://prospect.org/coronavirus/did-the-military-world-games-spread-covid-19/
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/284051

    Suspicious timing, DIA reports, and Iranian exceptionalism–this all rather points to this website’s weird obsessions with Middle East politics and China apologetics than to solid evidence of US intelligence operations.

  386. Sarah 说:
    @Theophrastus

    Furthermore, it appears that it is in fact the spike protein on sars-cov-2 which causes illness. Here is just one such source; there are many more.

    https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

    It is thus not surprising that it is this protein that is coded-for in all four of the Western gene therapies, disguised as vaccines.

    I know medicine professors who are guessing that the real cause of this disease wouldn’t the virus itself but this spike protein ; yet the US so-called “vaccines” based on mRNA spread continuously new spike proteins for the rest of the life ; they aren’t deleted by the new created antbodies after the shot contrarily to classical vaccines.

    • 回复: @That Would Be Telling
  387. quark 说:
    @skrik

    It was in The Australian, Murdoch newspaper. You can read about the Chinese rebuttal dated 09 May in the Global Times. It is a book that you can buy in Chinese bookstores, even on Amazon. There is nothing confidential about it, and it is not about attacking the Americans.

    • 回复: @skrik
  388. Kali [又名“fb 无人值守”] 说:

    Perhapse an essay porporting to tell “the whole truth” about the origins of covid 19, ought to include an analysis of the methods used to isolate and identify the virus said to be the cause of that disease?
    Absent such a crucial aspect of the origins of “covid 19”, the WHOLE truth cannot possibly be ascertained!

    And whilst bio-warfare against China and Iran seem very plausible explainations of the maladies which struck those countries (particularly Iran), ensuing reports of a global viral pandemic, absent any actual isolated virus, or any reliable test for that virus, must be treated as unproven.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/10-reasons-sars-cov-2-imaginary-theoretical-virus/5735833

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    Further, the obvious social, political and economic ramifications impacting “western” nations falling into Lock Step with the globalist WHO, whilst also providing legislative support fot the globalist WEF ambitions to “reset” the world socially, politically and economically, must bring the entire “covid 19” (without which there could be no reset) narrative into question.

    It sadens me that the otherwise inestimable Ron Unz chooses to turn a blind eye to so many crucial aspects of the pandemic narrative in favour of a myopic focus on bio-warfare.
    The entire western world is being systematically remade to suit the globalist ambitions of an unimaginably wealthy and powerful elite based on this narrative, the “whole truth” of which must surely include a study of the alleged virus itself. A study which reveals that the virus has never been isolated or proven to exits! A fact which in no way deminishes the hypothosis of bio-warfare attacs on target countries, but which does bring into question the subsequent “event21” style “pandemic” response.

    Ron’s copious use of the”more” tag throughout this comment section, to delegitimise comments which highlight many of the perfectly legitimate questions that need to be explored seems incredibly high-handed and even egotistical. I can’t imagine why the author of so many excellent essays exploring so many controversial topics would shy away from the controversies repleat withing the covid 19 narrative.

    What gives Ron?- Seriously, and with all due respect.

    • 同意: Publius 2
  389. @RTM

    Think it through. The not-nonsensical argument that the CCP doesn’t want to generate a public clamour to hit the US with bio weapons doesn’t extend to not embarrassing the US with planted stories in and from scores of countries which it could easily do, and, notably, do without allowing the story uncontrolled ability to stir up the Chinese public. How about, for example, some swipes at Americans as the hypocritical enemies of free speech who cut off Ron Unz’s webzine from Google and Facebook because he tells the truth. And this appears as the work of a Polish intellectual or Jew living in Italy? And gets repeated and retweeted 100,00 times – in fact Nigerian and other blatant scammers are hooked in for what they ove most:money.

    • 回复: @RTM
  390. @Desert Fox

    And the lead globalist, the one pushing The Great Reset, is Lex Luthor or an evil Bond villain offering salvation while blackmailing the world with the threat of universal destruction. Were the Devil to come to Earth and if he wanted to be truly effective, he would disguise himself as Jesus Christ, head of the world’s largest charitable foundation.

  391. Why Wuhan? Straw man. What of those USA labs tha were used for the gain of function research tha led to the infamous 2015 paper in nature?

    When did Wuhan progress from bsl3 to bsl4? Ditto all the US labs. What do the records of pneumonia like presentations at hospitals etc in surrounds of those labs reveal?

    Vaping disease? What do retrospective coronavirust test reveal?

    The six+ infected USA military games people who went to Wuhan hospital for support for their dreadful coughing – what is their status, what do retrospectivecovid test / analysis / antibodies reveal.

    • 回复: @Johnny Rico
  392. Skeptikal 说:
    @bayviking

    ” to preserve “plausible deniability”. ”

    A big red flag in the Paul Schreyer video that I linked somewhere upthread is the appearance of discussion of the need for “plausible deniability” early on in the series of pandemic simulations that Schreyer so ably dissects.

    Red flag flagging what?
    The obvious inference is that the simulations were not directed toward protecting civilian populations from sickness and possible death and other social ills, but were directed toward another goal: using a pandemic to impose otherwise unacceptable restrictions on basic rights and to manipulate and neutralize public opinion and quash any who questioned the new scenarios by denying them the evidence needed to develop and communicate a convincing explanation regarding the new legal and behavioral regime. By supply a “facade” explanation of the causes of events.

  393. @Ron Unz

    I was simply asking if you’ve read the book. The gist of it is how the Trump administration, with its neocons and with Trump’s wishy-washy bumbling, have dealt with China. Beside the halfway-neocon slant, it’s just factual on what’s been going on at diplomatic level.

    I understand you’re a Sinophile, and there is a lot to admire about the place. However, you don’t get the real picture out of books alone. That comes from learning directly from Chinese people and seeing things there with your own eyes. Mr. Stanloona 以上 has probably the best take on the politics, without giving any chosen theory on the Covid origins. He leaves out the pure speculation.

    Granted, it wasn’t supposed to be the topic of this thread, but your calling anyone who has not been as hysterical as you about the COVID-one-niner a “hoaxer” is juvenile and shows the same story. You just don’t get out much.

    Perhaps your problem is that you can’t have an intelligent discussion with anyone who disagrees with you.

  394. Clyde 说:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    nsa is a very entertaining and humorous poster here. U can check out his past posts.

    • 谢谢: Achmed E. Newman
  395. @Ron Unz

    Isn’t he that WaPo lab-leak Neocon?

    BTW, I had no idea on this. I have not finished the book (about 25 pages left), but that’s not the subject of the book in question.

  396. @As I see it

    The only reason Gandhi was alive to write that was he was dealing with Western civilization, not Eastern, nor the 2nd World. What a turd.

    • 回复: @Ace
  397. Skeptikal 说:
    @Clyde

    It is interesting that for the Chinese the primary sign that the emperor had lost the Mandate of Heaven was flooding.

    Controlling the flow of potentially destructive rivers was a major responsibility for anyone who would govern all of China. A quick look at a map shows why:
    https://www.chinadiscovery.com/china-maps/rivers-map.html
    Basically, a huge portion of the water that flows out of the Himalayas hits China. China has always needed this water to be channeled for agriculture etc. , but: Hold the flooding!

    The breakdown of the systems for controlling flooding was like a fever temperature in a person, indicating sickness in the ruling bodies so that they lost their mandate—their authority—to require obedience to them. They lost the respect and faith of the people.

    (In the Netherlands, similarly dependent on effective control of water, the entity responsible for the whole system is like a government within the government, called the Rijkswaterstaat.)

    Managing rivers and preventing flooding was the top requirement for a claim to be the ruler of all of China.

    It would be interesting to see some solid data on the actual contribution to Chinese development made by the Three Gorges dam.

    • 回复: @Clyde
  398. Yevardian 说:
    @Ron Unz

    同时,我所知道的所有Neocon都是白痴,他们在所有事情上都错了,他们中的大多数人早在多年前就被绞死了。

    比尔·克里斯托(Bill Cristol)难道不是您的个人朋友吗? 伤心!

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  399. Well Ron, while it is obvious that many here do not buy into your theory of Covid’s origin and spread, nevertheless, you have succeeded in the larger goal of having provided the best discussion on the internet pertaining to these issues. There are many worthy comments here. Congrats.

    • 谢谢: Bugey libre
  400. @Chrisnonymous

    Thank you. That is outstanding in its thoroughness and cogency. I think your paragraph dealing with the apparent forewarning of Israel (and NATO) may be a most important contribution to making Ron see where he slipped off the rails into unwarranted certainty about that premise from which so much of his case flowed. Originally I hypothesised that the small specialist intelligence unit picked up stories about sick military athletes and then used social media and other inexpensive sources to find out more. Then it dawned on me that it would be almost unthinkable for US intelligence not to have reliable sources in the WIV, old colleagues of American friends, people trained in America, people for whom conscience and a desire for money were in happy agreement, etc And that well explains why the reports would be denied. Why confirm the Chinese immediate suspicion that not everyone at WIV was a devotee of the CCP? As to the Americans knowing before the Chinese government in Beijing I don’t need to repeat the obvious – best illustrated by the disciplining of the honest whistle-blower who died.

    I also think a handwaving reference to Pompeo being a likely choice for idiotic villain because he had been head of the CIA is ludicrous. If you need to theorise that very senior neocons were involved you don’t choose someone who would not have been in the CIA job long enough to remove all the natural wariness of the outsider thrust upon the professionals and who, very likely, was just confirming their distaste for him.

    • 同意: Brás Cubas
  401. @follyofwar

    And where did the notion for a Great Reset even come from?

    Normal human response to a plague or natural catastrophe is to want to get back to normal as quickly as possible, is it not?

  402. @meamjojo

    Regarding that piece in 澳大利亚, maybe this will be of interest:

    The Chinese book at the bottom of Sars bioweapons claims that emerged amid coronavirus pandemic
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3132949/chinese-book-bottom-sars-bioweapons-claims

  403. Skeptikal 说:
    @Ron Unz

    “Actually, I’m getting fed up by all the crazy Flu Hoaxers clogging up this comment thread with totally unrelated nonsense, and I think I’ll make arrangements to start having their comments trashed.”

    Fair enough, it ‘s your site.

    But it would be useful if you would define the ideas that you consider to be “flu hoaxes” promulgated by “crazy flu hoaxers.”

    请不要让评论者知道该站点上现在有哪些想法和假设。

    • 回复: @Bugey libre
  404. FB 说: • 您的网站
    @Just another serf

    I raise some chickens, treat them well. They are very easy to frighten though. Exactly like most human populations,

    They are now unleashing chaotic crime…

    Why would your chickens be unleashing chaotic crime? I’ve raised chickens also and they are generally law-abiding. 🤔

    [更多]

    • 哈哈: That Would Be Telling
  405. anon[173]• 免责声明 说:

    More frantic cognitive infiltration from CIA junior spy cadet Chrisnonymous 392, all basically shit-eating pilpul. That works fine with helpless brainwashed jerkoffs in shul or facebook. It doesn’t work in a climate of UNTOC international legal assistance among competent independent judiciaries. Tell it to the criminal tribunal at Khararovsk. Cause CIA is gonna lose this war. Bout time, too.

  406. RTM 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Thanks for the insight. I had not considered that possibility. Will need to re-think…

    • 回复: @WIzard of Oz
  407. Ulysse 说:

    Hunz’s argument finds its relevance in the war game “exercises” that all strategy professors teach in military schools. So there is no reason to think that Chinese strategists have not been considering it for a long time, even before the epidemic spread to Wuhan. After all, they are the best heirs of Sun Tzu. In the Art of War, we find this: “never reveal the reasons for your actions”! Indeed, how quickly the Chinese state instituted a complete shutdown of its economy and confined 700,000 people; at the same time building a hospital complex with thousands of beds in a few days. This corroborates, as Hunz rightly points out, the previous epidemics of avian flu, then swine flu, which no strategist should neglect in the calculations of the “worst to come”…

  408. Realist 说:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Unz, you are a Big Brain math guy, and I am not.

    Yes, he has a purported IQ of 214

  409. @Brás Cubas

    But the surname Daszak is Polish.

  410. Clyde 说:
    @Skeptikal

    Thanks for your most informative post! I had forgotten how flooding was what brought down Chinese dynasties. Three Gorges–Some of the construction was done by workers hauling out dirt with hand carts aka wheelbarrows— 写真
    https://www.alamy.com/a-worker-push-a-cart-at-the-construction-site-of-three-gorges-dam-image68764883.html

    Ever read “Farmers of Forty Centuries”?

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=%22Farmers+of+Forty+Centuries%22%3F&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN
    Briefly, Farmers of Forty Centuries describes the voyage agronomist and former US Department of Agriculture official Franklin Hiram King made to to China, Korea and Japan in the early 1900s.

    Don’t be deterred by the word Organic you will see in the above search. Much of the book from 1904 or so, has to do with the extensive system of canals to channel water to Chinese farmers. And done same way for centuries. So China is not a desert in its fertile regions, but to get the most crops out of the land they still directed water to their farmers. They did not just rely on rainfall. Thus a larger population could be supported.

    And in 1904 the author was able to see how this had been done the same in 1904, as it had been done for 40 centuries.

  411. dimples 说:

    If it hasn’t already been the subject of a comment, it seems to me that there is a logical flaw in Mr Unz’s theory that the military games were deliberately used to infect China.

    The military games had participants from all over the world. Since the US participants came about 30th there are at least that many countries participating. Since the plotters’ idea is to infect the participants of the games, not only would the Chinese participants be infected, but participants from all the other countries as well. Thus we would expect to see Covid to break out at roughly the same time all over the world, carried by the military games participants back to their home countries. Since it only broke out in China first, then logically therefore the military games could not be the starting point.

    Additionally, Chinese contact tracers would eventually track patient zero to the military games, if it were the case that the infection started there. Since it would be a great propaganda victory for the CCP to show that patient zero(s) were American sports participants, I cannot see the CCP trying to prevent the contact tracers’ efforts or trying to cover them up in this respect.

    • 回复: @lysias
    , @anonym25
    , @Anonymous
  412. Bann 说:
    @Malla

    What happened to Covid-19 cure by drinking cow urine as pushed and promoted by the Prime Minister of India Modi. All that millions wasted on cow urine research. I saw people drinking cow urine like a beverage.

    And now another extreme is to take bath with cow dung to get rid of Covid19. Which planet Indians are living?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/worldview-3-pakistani-soldiers-killed-142222305.html

    • 回复: @Achmed E. Newman
  413. @Dumbo

    It’s not the flu, it’s pneumonia

    Flu is a virus, while also being a layman’s term for a syndrome. Which is what pneumonia is, it can be caused by bacteria, viruses, and physical agents. I bring this up because a great deal of the damage COVID-19 can cause is vascular and can be in many places in the body. Also there’s a strange and very dangerous phenomena of “happy hypoxia” where patients aren’t getting enough oxygen in their blood but don’t realize it, which can cause a lot of organ damage. I assume whatever is behind it is not interfering with CO2 removal, that’s what drives the breathing reflex.

    You can get a comprehensive view of the morbidity that COVID-19 can cause including delayed mortality in this recent study of Veterans Health Administration data. Of people who didn’t die in the first 30 days, 73,5K who didn’t need hospitalization and 13.5K who did, with some serious control groups, about 5 million normal people in their system and another 13.5K who were hospitalized with influenza (it’s 许多 worse than the normal flu).

  414. dimples 说:
    @stanloona

    What’s wrong with the CCP? Better to be under the thumb of them, rather than under the thumb of feminists, homos, Jews and the multi-gendered. At least it’s good old honest fascism rather than the horrifying woke nanny Jewstate.

  415. @Dumbo

    So in that case it is viral pneumonia. Still it is deadlier and more widespread globally than any other previous outbreaks of this disease, now on a pandemic scale. Can you show any previous such global pandemics of pneumonia? So it still raises the questions: why, how come, where from.

  416. @thotmonger

    I pine for an essay by Unz regarding the larger question of how this “great plague” is being so extravagantly exploited

    He admits above that he hasn’t looked into any of that, but for some reason he dismisses it anyway. He hasn’t even read his own site!

  417. lysias 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    The intelligence agencies compartmentalize information. I don’t see why a plot of the kind Mr. Unz hypothesizes would require more than 100 people who understood what they were doing.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
    , @Ron Unz
  418. @Stonehands

    特朗普是一个演艺人员。 当他第一次赢得比赛时,他感到震惊,这完全显示出他的无能,他在他的内阁里放满了Neocon翻新鞋和无瑕的Jarvanka Habad-House双重特工。

    Trump had presidential ambitions going back to the 70s. I don’t think he was shocked so much as believed government could be run like a business, with employees snapping-to. He did do a lot of small things right, cut through some red tape and got the economy going, at least a little better. Trump was unabashedly and genuinely pro-American and loved this country as opposed to the dour criminal demoshits and globalist swine republicucks, one reason why he remains popular.

    为了保证他不会获胜并且必须忍受4年的小丑车之旅,他于13月XNUMX日授权紧急状态扩大邮寄投票的规则,从而确保拜登获得胜利。

    Nothing these days can be counted out, but that’s a rather sophisticated move for a fellow with the attention span of a goldfish. That he was played like a fiddle by (((certain forces))) can’t be disputed though.

    特朗普现在很高兴。 他可以通过自己肮脏的网页永久地站在副业上,该网页没有评论部分,没有论述,没有很多标志-还有捐赠按钮,别忘了捐赠!

    He doesn’t really need money, another reason he was appealing. A billionaire in his 70s should have been raising Cain all along, banging Melania in between session of firing the criminal heads of the cia, fbi, doj, etc.

    PS
    925,000人死亡! 保持混乱-您将近6万!

    If you’re referring to #covidhoax I don’t see how you could trust any official numbers. The federal mafia lies about everything now. Everything. An true pandemic doesn’t need fedmob to suppress dissenting opinions nor (((fake news))) to hype the crisis, nor laws to force people to wear protection like masks.

    • 同意: Jeffrey A Freeman
  419. Jiminy 说:

    I still recall the ABC am morning show interviewed a female scientist from the CSIRO in Australia about the new flu. The time was around January 2020 I believe. When asked if the virus was from nature she laughed and said no. Things don’t work that way. And while the Chinese swine fever outbreak before that was on the tv news reports, it was sad to see pigs being bulldozed into pits to be buried alive. At least here they would be shot first.

  420. skrik 说:
    @quark

    Thanks for your response, an answer is given below in

    409,布拉斯·古巴斯(BrásCubas)说:
    GMT 11年2021月12日下午40:XNUMX

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3132949/chinese-book-bottom-sars-bioweapons-claims

    祝您阅读愉快。

    Further, “The Australian, Murdoch newspaper” is not exactly known for a) impartiality let alone b) accuracy, but rather c) quite often hateful propaganda of the worst sort.

    Apropos, another poster has cited an article from the same source ‘in here,’ with, of course, the same warning as I’ve just given. rgds

  421. @Skeptikal

    Mr Unz didn’t say that it was on the site but on that thread which is dealing with the origin of sarscov2, still, his comment is rather disturbing.

    What is a “crazy flu hoaxer”? From what I understood, it would be someone who doesn’t believe the official narrative about the “corona thing” death toll and the efficacy of so called vaccines (which are definitely not vaccine and hardly gene therapy) made in a couple of weeks whereas, by definition, vaccine take years to prepare.

  422. lysias 说:
    @dimples

    There is evidence that several European participants in the Military World Games were infected.

  423. @Sarah

    yet the US so-called “vaccines” based on mRNA spread continuously new spike proteins for the rest of the life ; they aren’t deleted by the new created antbodies after the shot contrarily to classical vaccines

    “甚至没有错。”

    All “active” vaccines including the very first vaccine of any type are means to the end of hijacking cells to cause mRNA to create viral proteins inside of cells. DNA->mRNA->proteins as the fundamental paradigm of molecular genetics goes, then mRNA strands are decomposed into their individual nucleotides and go back to the nucleus to be made into other mRNA strands. So the time during which these cells produce the spike protein is strictly limited, which I bet isn’t the case for the viral vector vaccines.

    This production causes both the full spike protein to appear on the surfaces of cells where the humoral, that is antibody mediated part of the adaptive immune system can interact with them, and small portions of them are sniped and presented on the surface of these hijacked cells as epitopes. Which prompt not just antibody recognition of “this is alien, kill it!” but also cellular immunity. Which includes CD8+ T cells that recognize hijacked cells and kills them.

    Final detail which calls into question the pathology of mRNA vaccine spike proteins? They’re non-functional, have been stabilized with a couple of “molecular twist ties.” By comparison, see the (AZ/)Oxford strong women vaccine which doesn’t take advantage of the NIH research into this and uses the wild type (WT) spike protein.

    • 巨魔: Theophrastus
  424. profnasty 说:
    @Tdstype2

    It’s a political attack.
    America’s Media Commisars picked up the ball and ran with it.
    Scare scare scare.
    Sell sell sell.

  425. @lysias

    But they all spy on each other, and I doubt something this big could be kept secret from others high up in the spy agencies and the deep state.

  426. Anon[203]• 免责声明 说:

    Wades article has this:

    “Viruses have all kinds of clever tricks, so why does the furin cleavage site stand out? Because of all known SARS-related beta-coronaviruses, only SARS2 possesses a furin cleavage site. All the other viruses have their S2 unit cleaved at a different site and by a different mechanism.”

    Now compare this article at ncbi:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7836551/
    弗林蛋白酶的切割位点自然存在于冠状病毒中

    And so other closely related corona viruses do have closely related relevant furin cleavage site. By being restrictive to beta, a myopic misunderstanding occurs in Wade’s article.

    • 谢谢: FB
  427. Tim too 说:

    This contains Deigin et al write up:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7993900/
    我们应该打折COVID-19的实验室来源吗?

    By Segreto, Deigin, etal.

    No further references yet in ncbi.

    • 谢谢: Robert Snefjella, skrik
  428. @Bann

    I saw people drinking cow urine like a beverage.

    Now, if we can just carbonate it, or better yet, have a “nitro” version, mixed with 30 gm of sugar served with crushed ice, I want to get in on the ground floor. Call it “Dr. Newman’s Peepul’s Elixir” – only \$1.29 for a Big Gulp.

    • 哈哈: Rdm, some_loon
  429. @Sick of Orcs

    That was an excellent take on Donald Trump, SoO!

    • 谢谢: Sick of Orcs
  430. denk 说:

    流感大流行 watch rule 2
    Beware of pale faced bearing gift…

    图表A.
    Smallpox laced blankets for native Americans,

    B
    ‘threat prevention’ labs in Africa became the source of Ebola outbreak’

    C
    dengue in Pak

    巴基斯坦很少有人知道巴基斯坦登革热流行的历史。 可以追溯到我们决定让中央情报局(CIA)自由使用我们的土地进行邪恶活动的时代。 在阿富汗战争结束后,我们从美国人那里收到了许多“礼物”,这些战争摧毁了苏联-登革热和毒品,武器与恐怖主义,宗教偏执和军国主义。 在通过圣战者组织参与阿富汗战争期间,中情局在拉合尔启动了一个“项目”(原文如此),名称为“消除疟疾中心‘ – headed by one David Nalin – to wage 生物战 against the USSR troops. The Centre hired some poor residents of Green Town as guinea pigs. They were infected with the dengue virus and were later on exposed to the Aedes mosquitoes in netted beds. In this way, David Nalin created virus-carrier species – A. aegypti A. albopictus, A. polynesiensis and A. scutellaris – capable of transmitting the deadly epidemic disease commonly known as dengue or yellow fever amongst the Red Army occupying Afghanistan.

    https://tariqluqman.blogspot.com/2013/02/dengue-virus-biological-war-started-by.html#.VGBDOmc9YYd

  431. @Chrisnonymous

    任何策划秘密生物战的人都一定会考虑被抓到的后果。

    我几乎可以相信,美国和以色列将以这种方式袭击伊朗,但不会袭击中国。 原因是中国人足够聪明,可以找出攻击源,而对美国的发现后果将是巨大的。 出于类似的原因,没有人真正相信CCP故意将COVID泄漏到野外。

    同样,无论猪流感在中国的起源如何,无论它是如何传播的,外国人都无法通过无人机传播这种病毒。 如果被抓获,任何此类特工都会被处决,他们的国家也将与中国交战。 有什么好处? 猪肉出口增加?

    ……中国人对WIV的态度不是很透明。 如果他们的记录都指出实验室存在问题,他们将让WHO小组(无论如何看起来都是亲中国人)仔细检查所有内容,以便清楚他们的名字并将矛头指向美国。

    这是最明显的“吸烟枪”。 如果WIV通过了立即和全面的检查,包括检查实验室笔记本和时间表,擦拭标本的工作区域,从主任到清洁工的每位员工的私人访谈等,并得到了人们的全心全意的合作谁也没什么好掩饰的,我们将有理由寻找更复杂的解释,例如秘密特工渗透到中国进行生物战。

    COVID最有可能是从实验室意外传播的,这种情况以前曾发生过很多次,来自世界各地“安全”生物学实验室的多种病原体都曾发生过,但从未发生过如此可怕的后果。 即使COVID自然产生,Wade和其他人提供的证据也清楚表明,在WIV发生实验室泄漏不会出乎意料。 这种情况的危险在于,在世界上大多数人都否认的情况下,不可能只关注会影响所有病毒学实验室的安全问题-不仅是其工作实践,而且是否应该完全完成某些工作。

    • 同意: Lot
    • 回复: @orchardist
  432. @Bugey libre

    Mr Unz didn’t say that it was on the site but on that thread which is dealing with the origin of sarscov2, still, his comment is rather disturbing.

    What is a “crazy flu hoaxer”?

    There’s way too much noise in 乌兹网 COVID-19 threads that’s entirely unproductive. Here’s a list of things I came up with in half an hour that I personally would declare out of bounds and have thread moderators delete:

    Denial of the germ theory of disease.

    Denial of the existence of viruses, and their place in the above theory.

    Denial of the existence of SARS-CoV-2, including the ludicrous claim it has never been “isolated.” (See my comment above on how the CDC did that starting on 1/20/2020).

    Denial that 东西 is killing people all over the world far in excess of recent years.

    Claims this could not be caused by SARS-CoV-2.

    Claims that all people being killed by COVID-19 “already had one foot in the grave.” Possibly extend that to most people.

    Delight that it is killing so many Boomers, or elderly (the oldest Boomers are 75, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was killing more Silents).

    Claims mRNA vaccines aren’t vaccines (they present an antigen to the immune system, if you can’t grasp that…).

    Claims the two leading mRNA vaccines are 仍然 “experimental” (CureVac’s on the other hand…).

    Claims that COVID-19 vaccines have killed 3.5K+ people in the US (correlated after vaccination deaths reported to VAERS and how many of those deaths were caused by them is another thing).

    Claims the vaccines are right now killing more people than COVID-19 did when it was unrestrained by them.

    • 谢谢: utu
    • 哈哈: FB
    • 回复: @Mehen
    , @Anon
  433. Adam Grant 说:
    @Per/Norway

    Gregory Copley’s International Strategic Studies Association gathers its own intel. Its Director of Research is Youssef Bodansky, who headed the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare 1988-2004. Last I checked 130+ countries around the world were paying for ISSA research. Obviously intel gatherers can’t give up sources.

    Bodansky has called Copley “our only fully conscious grand strategist.” Steve Sailer has referred to Copley’s partner, mentor and ISSA co-founder Stefan Possony as a “super genius” (or super brain, I forget).

    博丹斯基谈中国与美国的30年新战:
    583_Bodansky.pdf

    Copley talks about China’s 30 year war against U.S. beginning at 26 minute mark of this video:

    Listen and draw your own conclusions. Nobody is 100% right when it comes to intel analysis, but Copley has one of the best track records IMO. For example, Copley did the research that allowed Stefan Possony to predict in 1973 that the USSR would disintegrate in the early 1990s. Shortly before the OKC bombing Bodansky stated that “two lily whites” were going to bomb a federal building in the American heartland. I trust Copley to usually get it right.

    • 回复: @Gizmo880
    , @utu
  434. gnbRC 说:
    @greencrow

    定期的季节性流感的“ Covidiazation”在所有这一切中起什么作用? 流感在西方基本上已经消失了……由Covid-19取代。

    鉴于“季节性流感”的规律性及其与制药行业及其相关政府监管机构的“季节性利润”关联 循环往复,以及可能传播和传播COVID-19病毒的机构,…

    …为什么还不合理地考虑“季节性流感”病毒也是人为制造和散布/散布以牟利的可能性,也许是由私人利益而非政府机构提供的呢?

    也许病毒分发/传播技术已经被私营企业和军事/情报机构开发并使用,但它们只是为方法和技术付费。

    因此,也许在COVID-19手术期间停止了“季节性流感”的分布/传播,以限制发生交叉突变菌株的机会。

    • 同意: Alfred
  435. Ron Unz 说:
    @lysias

    The intelligence agencies compartmentalize information. I don’t see why a plot of the kind Mr. Unz hypothesizes would require more than 100 people who understood what they were doing.

    You obviously have far more intelligence expertise than myself, but I doubt the number of core plotters would have even a fraction of that.

    I think a good analogy would be the JFK assassination. From what I’ve read, it seems likely that the vast majority of the individuals peripherally involved in the plot were completely unaware of the intended goal, but had merely been directed by their associates or superiors to take various actions without being told exactly why. They obviously understood afterwards, but having become personally compromised, they had a reason to keep silent.

    Obviously, any operatives who released the virus in Wuhan would have known what they were doing, but surely believed it was an officially authorized operation, the sort of thing for which they’d been trained. The same thing was true for the bioweapons experts who supplied the virus. Given the disaster inflicted upon America and the fact that the bioweapons were anyway illegal, it would now be difficult for them to come forward, admit they had knowingly been involved in illegal bioweapons activity that had accidentally killed millions, but say that they had been misled by their superiors, who themselves may have been misled.

    It’s a little like what happened after TWA-900 was accidentally shot down:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-destruction-of-twa-flight-800/

    A perfect sign of the widespread “innocence” in these agencies was that those four government sources came forward to describe the secret November DIA report, without even realizing that the date of the report revealed the DIA foreknowledge, an absolute smoking gun.

    • 回复: @lysias
  436. Anonymous[205]• 免责声明 说:

    I knew immediately this was going to become a CCP troll-fest.

    • 回复: @skrik
  437. orchardist 说:
    @James N. Kennett

    Respectfully, little in the real world happens “by accident” – especially not with matters this grave. Those in power are more nefarious than most of us can imagine.

    • 同意: Ace
  438. Ron Unz 说:
    @Bugey libre

    Mr Unz didn’t say that it was on the site but on that thread which is dealing with the origin of sarscov2, still, his comment is rather disturbing…What is a “crazy flu hoaxer”?

    Look, this isn’t a Flu Hoaxer thread, so if you want to promote Flu Hoaxery go to one of those, of which there have been many over the last year.

    Similarly, all the crazy Anti-Vaxxers are perfectly welcome to rant about that issue on any of Mike Whitney’s numerous Anti-Vaxx articles, and indeed he’s just published a new one:

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-covaxx-19-scorecard-bleeding-blood-clots-and-the-whole-nine-yards/

    Cluttering up this comment-thread with that sort of off-topic nonsense just isn’t acceptable.

    • 回复: @Bugey libre
  439. Adam Grant 说:
    @Badger Down

    Gregory Copley’s ISSA has a lot of people on the ground all over the world gathering intel. If you want to see some of his impressive predictions/analysis, read this 2006 Copley bio starting ~12 paragraphs down the page:

    http://www.artofvictory.com/Author.htm

  440. skrik 说:
    @FB

    is there in fact an agenda behind all of these unprecedented social measures?

    At first, most of ‘the West’ said “flatten the curve,” although an early article “The Hammer and the Dance;Mitigation vs Suppression” was p’d *about one year ago* on MoA, detailing an optimal approach – which differed little from the approach *successfully* deployed in/around Wuhan. Seems to me that the main problem with the West’s “unprecedented social measures” is that they were only ever half-hearted, both in conception and implementation. One exception known to me, namely NZ.

    In other words, the ‘leadership’ of ‘the West’ totally mismanaged the crisis, and the sheople, being insufficiently propagandised as to the ‘essential’ way to act, just took it all too casually. The result as of today, most places, is continuing spreading, although possibly slowing, some say because of vaccines (UK/AZ, say). Added to that were the ‘nurFlus’ [= denialists] who activel resist, best illustration: “Face nappies!” grrr + rgds

  441. Curmudgeon 说:
    @That Would Be Telling

    Well, here is a link to someone that thinks differently.
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/category/covid/page/2/

    If Plummer said SARS didn’t exist, neither does SARS2.

  442. Agent76 说:

    May 11, 2021 Dr. Paul Questions Dr. Fauci on Wuhan Lab and Gain of Function Research

    • 谢谢: MEH 0910
  443. Gizmo880 说:
    @Adam Grant

    How would anyone know that “two lily whites” were going to bomb the federal building in OKC before it happened?

  444. Wade 说:
    @Craig Nelsen

    感谢您提供此信息。 我也记得在整整两周之内宣布以色列疫苗的消息。 我也认为这也是高度可疑的事情,但是据我所知,从来没有人对此问题进行过跟进。

    我在对罗恩(Ron)的几条评论中认为,在疫情的确切时间/地点出现的300名美军士兵似乎是一条红鲱鱼。 毕竟,释放病毒需要多少人? 然后,在上面,有人想到了“ COVID雾化器”这个绝妙的主意,可能被用来秘密传播病毒。 罗恩“完全”回答,并承认想象这300名士兵在抵达之前被故意感染是荒谬的。 那为什么需要它们 在所有 除了作为第三党的转移?

    但是,既然您提到了一位以色列博客写手,将《塔瓦因人》(Tawainese)小费了,我们还必须记住罗恩理论的另一个关键事实(上文第6点)。 一家美国情报机构早在2019年6月就创建了一份报告,并在某些时候发表了一些新闻声明,我相信这些声明已经出现在ABC上。 后来撤回了。 但是根据罗恩·恩茨(Ron Unz)的说法,正是以色列人向所有人证实了美国情报机构的确发布了这样的报告,这不可避免地使人们再次怀疑美国。 罗恩(Ron)作品的第XNUMX点一直是他指责美国的理论的关键细节。

    让我对罗恩的理论表示怀疑的一件事是他的假设,即对美国的反冲是无意的,并且是由于能力不足而导致的某种“自己的目标”。 尽管整个事件表明了美国为大流行做好了充分的准备,但也表明了以色列的准备(至少在政治上)有多“准备”。 与美国相比,他们强加了疫苗护照和封锁措施,迅速而全面,更像中国。 与美国不同,他们对国内的极权主义不满。 (顺便说一下,世界经济论坛主要由犹太银行家赞助,似乎已经准备就绪,准备了一系列计划,改革,书籍和文学作品,为全球性大流行这样的机会做好了准备。他们在世界经济论坛之前也展示了先进的知识。爆发)。

    不能排除以色列的某种程度的介入。 罗恩在上面对我说过,他认为比尔·盖茨想通过刺戳使世界人口减少的大多数喧闹话题都是裂纹陶器,可能是某种形式的认知渗透的结果。 我同意他的观点。 这个由Bitchute阴谋理论家组成的团体与QAnon有很多重叠之处,Alex Jones类型包括Alex Jones本人。

    长期以来,许多人一直怀疑宣传911的“松散变化”纪录片的亚历克斯·琼斯通过将布什/切尼/中央情报局钉在911上来传播犹太复国主义的虚假信息。长期以来,人们一直怀疑“ Q”是保持MAGA的以色列间谍。特朗普的动机和支持,即使特朗普做了新保守主义者的竞标。 同样的人群推动围绕COVID和The Jab的更疯狂的阴谋论并不是巧合。 例如,亚历克斯·琼斯(Alex Jones)最近声称,所有接种疫苗的人都可能在未来3年内死亡!

    • 回复: @anonym25
    , @Dumbo
  445. anonym25 说:
    @dimples

    The soldiers were the main target of this operation, specially the elite forces participating in Wuhan. No government would reveal their special forces were being targeted for national security reasons. For example, the French military athlete, Elodie Clouvel revealed that she had contracted Covid19 at the Wuhan military games along with members of her delegation back in march 2020 and may 2020.

    As soon as her comments reached the news, the French military were quick to deny her allegations and said they will not test their soldiers asking Elodie not to comment any further on the matter, pretty much gagging her. This bioweapon, I believe, has wrecked havoc among and killed possibly many high ranking military officers of many countries around the world. Also, another clue to look at are the unexplainable covid19 outbreaks happening to US and French soldiers on warships at seas for many months many without mainland contacts during 2020.

  446. @Sick of Orcs

    In the 1918 flu epidemic there were cities where they had corpse collection carts like in Monty Python 带出你的死人. We aren’t even in that universe.

    • 回复: @Sick of Orcs
  447. Yee 说:

    James N. Kennett,

    “If the WIV had passed an immediate and full inspection,”

    I’m more interested in getting a “full inspection” of the numberious US military labs. I’m 100% sure a whole lot collection of corona-virus never before known to the world can be found in their storage, and many other kind of bio-weapons too.

    After all, the US has spent decades and countless money and manpower in working on bio-weapons, and has use them in the past to show for their accomplishments.

    Really, your country has been run by some seriously evil people.

    • 同意: d dan, Alfred
  448. anonym25 说:
    @Wade

    他们还参加了在军事运动会上这种生物武器的创建和部署。 他们拒绝加入,是因为巴勒斯坦被邀请并因这种亵渎行为惩罚中国,他们释放了这种生物武器。 同样,早在2020年XNUMX月华盛顿特区的一篇文章中,莫萨德(Mossad)生物武器专家丹妮·肖汉姆(Dany Shoham)就是第一位传播武汉实验室泄漏事件的专家,直到今天仍在支持这一假说。 但是,他们无疑将目标对准了伊朗驻武汉的军队。

    是的,你是对的。 美军将这种病毒带到武汉的想法,就像武汉实验室泄漏事件一样,是一个红色的鲱鱼。

    • 谢谢: Wade
  449. Anonymous[282]• 免责声明 说:
    @dimples

    Exactly. It boggles the mind that anyone (except a paid CCP shill) could push this idiotic military games theory. There is in fact a valid bioweapon theory, conspicuous by its absence here (you’ll note all the CCP trolls): this was a joint, collaborative operation between the American Deep State and CCP, and not an attack by the former on the latter.

    • 巨魔: WIzard of Oz
    • 回复: @Greg S.
    , @durd
  450. Ace 说:
    @As I see it

    Having lived in Africa during colonial times I have a positive view of what colonial rule meant for everyone. Africans yearned to be able to work in S. Africa, for example. There’s much to be learned from comparing the separation approach to multiethnic societies with the mad equality approach. Muslims and Jews seem to favor out and out supremacism which is an interesting variant. Islam has a bit more resilience in it as it does provide for membership in the ingroup.

    I knew a Pakistani gentleman some years later in the U.S. He said that his people referred to the British as snakes so there’s some support for Gandhi’s view. But overall I think Mr. Newman’s point is well taken. The Brits ruled well for the times and had the sense to realize that it was a new day after the war. The manner of their leaving was disgraceful but that’s another story.

    What has replaced those terrible old ways is fatuous flabbiness. Western civilization has an increasingly shorter half life and Africa and India will shortly be called upon to demonstrate how life without white civilization will be. India will surely prosper but Africa will not.

  451. alan2102 说:
    @As I see it


    阿里尔·卡林斯基(@ArielKarlinsky)
    在#WorldMortality中,我和@hippopedoid发现超额死亡人数比报告的COVID死亡人数高1.6。 我们认为这将降低COVID-19的费用。
    https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.01.27.21250604
    https://github.com/akarlinsky/world_mortality
    6:50 AM·24年2021月XNUMX日


    但是,这项研究是第一个改变我对COVID-19死亡率报告的看法的方法。 目前的死亡人数超过3万,这是一个相当低的估计,我怀疑这比10万接近了3万。 为什么?
    在#WorldMortality中,我们的正计数不足比率(死亡人数超过报告的COVID死亡人数)范围是1倍(OECD),5倍(俄罗斯),10倍(萨尔瓦多),30倍(乌兹别克斯坦),50倍(尼加拉瓜)甚至100倍(塔吉克斯坦)。
    7:11 AM·24年2021月XNUMX日

    • 谢谢: As I see it
  452. Ace 说:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Years ago Richard somebody or other, a writer for the Washington Times, wrote a great piece in Commentary about Gandhi’s hypocrisy. He forbade his wife to use Western medicine but when he got sick it was pedal to the metal to you know whom.

    • 谢谢: Achmed E. Newman
  453. @cranc

    无论哪种方式,我都不再相信您会为更广泛的真理服务。

    塔克·卡尔森(Tucker Carlson)所说的每个单词,都会有另外XNUMX个永远不会听到。 罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)也一样。 顺便说一句,如果您拥有“更广泛的事实”,您将如何处理? 卖票? 醒来死了吗?

  454. RobinG 说:
    @denk

    “bizarre and mysterious jargon”

    LOL. The moderator must be an algorithm.

    • 回复: @denk
  455. Greg S. 说:
    @Anonymous

    Exactly. Unz is gaslighting his audience.

    Look at the timing, and look at who benefits. Neither the U.S. deep-state nor the Chinese wanted another Trump term in office. China was starting to lose the trade war and despite 4 years spent entirely on undermining Trump at every possible step, he was still poised to win a second term. Something had to be done, so it was. It was done under a JOINT gain-of-function research program that was internationally sponsored. Everyone had a finger in the pie. So no single party could be held responsible. There is strong evidence that Fauci and Gates were involved from day 1 (ignored by this article). The COVID-19 pandemic was, still is, and always will be 政治 in nature. It will never be allowed to end until all of its political goals are achieved. Where the thing came from is largely water under the bridge at this point, because it will never be known conclusively, just as 9-11 never will be.

    The real questions to be asking are what are the actual political goals of this manufactured crisis, and when will it be allowed to end?

    • 同意: Alfred
  456. @Ron Unz

    You are factually right Sir. This thread deals with a specific subject and requesting that comments stick to it is undoubtly legitimate.

    It’s just the condescending attitude toward contradiction, even if substanciated..

    Anyway we’re not snowflakes and such a web site is so vital.

    I leave you in your “safe place” and promise I for my part, will always adress the right topic of the threads.

    谢谢你,先生

  457. Tim too 说:

    “(4) The characteristics of Covid-19, including high communicability and low lethality, are absolutely ideal in an anti-economy bioweapon. It seems odd that a random lab-leak would release a virus so perfectly designed to severely damage the Chinese economy.”

    Have a look at electricity production over ten year period (or whatever period, to see trend)
    https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/china/electricity-production
    electricity production is a proxy for overall economic activity.

    Severely damage China’s economy? No way. someone made a mistake!

  458. Dumbo 说:
    @Skeptikal

    还有更多:

    – There was not only “failure to jump on all possible early treatment options”, they were avoided or denied on purpose, and all hopes were set on the “vaccine” as the solution, and in some cases people were killed by the wrong treatment such as ventilators.

    – Since these people are psychopaths, I don’t the idea that they manipulated and then released a virus on purpose.

    – Very early on, even before any vaccine was on the market, Bill Gates and his foundation among others were already pumping propaganda about the “mRNA vaccines” as the big deal that would save us from Covid; in fact, given such a short time, I think that the creation of the virus and of the vaccine was concomitant and done/ordered by the same people, or (((people))) – is it a mere cohencidence that Israel was the place with both full vaccination and “green passports”, now being adopted by Europe, came about?

    – Many European countries will create “vaccine passports”, but they will not accept the Chinese CoronaVac or the Russian Sputnik. Which puts the lie to the idea that the reason for that is humanitarian or about health and safety, and more a political / money issue, about POWER and CONTROL.

    – The same applies to measures such as “lockdown” which despite the economic disaster it created for many people, did little or nothing to contain the disease. Germany was in some sort of partial lockdown for months, or almost a year, yet the cases continued increasing. Taking the tests at face value, the “lockdown” was a complete failure, but perhaps it was planned to be – it was not planned to “solve” or “slow down” the pandemic, but just make people angry or depressed, sell the vaccine as the only solution (and also to make people poor and to promote the other things they wanted such as online entertainment, tracking apps, digital cash etc).

    –等

  459. Skeptikal 说:
    @Greg S.

    ” The COVID-19 pandemic was, still is, and always will be political in nature. It will never be allowed to end until all of its political goals are achieved. Where the thing came from is largely water under the bridge at this point, because it will never be known conclusively, just as 9-11 never will be.

    The real questions to be asking are what are the actual political goals of this manufactured crisis, and when will it be allowed to end? ”

    I basically agree with this. Whether it was planned this way or just used this way—for the political purpose, first, of dumping Trump and who knows what else—is almost irrelevant at this point (“almost” because the truth is never irrele