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I recently received a copy of a most interesting book, A.B. Abrams’ “Power and Primacy: the history of western intervention in Asia” and as soon as I started reading it I decided that I wanted to interview the author and ask him about what is taking place in Asia in our times. This was especially interesting to me since Putin has embarked on the Russian version of Obama’s “转向亚洲“, with the big difference that Putin’s pivot has already proven to be a fantastic success, whereas Obama’s was a 惨败. I am most grateful to A.B. Abrams for his time and expertise.

造酒者: Please introduce yourself and your past and present political activities (books, articles, memberships, etc.)

A.B. Abrams: I am an expert on the international relations, recent history and geopolitics of the Asia-Pacific region. I have published widely on defense and politics related subjects under various pseudonyms. I am proficient in Chinese, Korean and other regional languages.

I wrote this book with the purpose of elucidating the nature of Western intervention in the region over the past 75 years, and analyzing prominent trends in the West’s involvement in the Asia-Pacific from the Pacific War with Imperial Japan to the current conflicts with China and North Korea. I attempt to show that Western conduct towards populations in the region, the designs of the Western powers for the region, and the means by which these have been pursued, have remained consistent over these past decades. This context is critical to understanding the present and future nature of Western intervention in the Asia-Pacific.

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造酒者: You have recently published a most interesting book Power and Primacy: the history of western interventions in Asia= which is a “must read” for anybody interested in Asia-western relations. You included a chapter on “The Russian Factor in the Asia-Pacific”. Historically, there is no doubt that pre-1917 Russia was seen in Asia as a “Western” power. But is that still true today? Many observers speak of a Russian “pivot” to Asia. What is your take on that? Is Russia still perceived as a “Western power” in Asia or is that changing?

A.B. Abrams: In the introduction to this work I highlight that a fundamental shift in world order was facilitated by the modernization and industrialization of two Eastern nations – Japan under the Meiji Restoration and the USSR under the Stalinist industrialization program. Before these two events the West had retained an effective monopoly on the modern industrial economy and on modern military force. Russia’s image is still affected by the legacy of the Soviet Union – in particular the way Soviet proliferation of both modern industries and modern weapons across much of the region was key to containing Western ambitions in the Cold War. Post-Soviet Russia has a somewhat unique position – with a cultural heritage influenced by Mongolia and Central Asia as well as by Europe. Politically Russia remains distinct from the Western Bloc, and perceptions of the country in East Asia have been heavily influenced by this. Perhaps today one the greatest distinctions is Russia’s eschewing of the principle of sovereignty under international law and its adherence to a non-interventionist foreign policy. Where for example the U.S., Europe and Canada will attempt to intervene in the internal affairs of other parties – whether by cutting off parts for armaments, imposing economic sanctions or even launching military interventions under humanitarian pretexts – Russia lacks a history of such behavior which has made it a welcome presence even for traditionally Western aligned nations such as the Philippines, Indonesia and South Korea.

While the Western Bloc attempted to isolate the USSR from East and Southeast Asia by supporting the spread of anticommunist thought, this pretext for shunning Russia collapsed in 1991. Today the West has had to resort to other means to attempt to contain and demonize the country – whether labelling it a human rights abuser or threatening its economic and defense partners with sanctions and other repercussions. The success of these measures in the Asia-Pacific has varied – but as regional economies have come to rely less on the West for trade and grown increasingly interdependent Western leverage over them and their foreign policies has diminished.

Even when considered as a Western nation, the type of conservative Western civilization which Russia may be seen to represent today differs starkly from that of Western Europe and North America. Regarding a Russia Pivot to Asia, support for such a plan appears to have increased from 2014 when relations with the Western Bloc effectively broke down. Indeed, the Russia’s future as a pacific power could be a very bright one – and as part of the up and coming northeast Asian region it borders many of the economies which appear set to dominate in the 21st century – namely China, Japan and the Koreas. Peter the Great is known to have issued in a new era of Russian prosperity by recognizing the importance of Europe’s rise and redefining Russia as a European power – moving the capital to St Petersburg. Today a similar though perhaps less extreme pivot Eastwards towards friendlier and more prosperous nations may be key to Russia’s future.

造酒者: We hear many observers speak of an informal but very profound and even game-changing partnership between Putin’s Russia and Xi’s China. The Chinese even speak of a “新时代战略全面战略合作伙伴关系“. How would you characterize the current relationship between these two countries and what prospects do you see for a future Russian-Chinese partnership?

A.B. Abrams: A Sino-Russian alliance has long been seen in both the U.S. and in Europe as one of the greatest threats to the West’s global primacy and to Western-led world order. As early as 1951 U.S. negotiators meeting with Chinese delegations to end the Korean War were instructed to focus on the differences in the positions of Moscow and Beijing in an attempt to form a rift between the two. Close Sino-Soviet cooperation seriously stifled Western designs for the Korean Peninsula and the wider region during that period, and it was repeatedly emphasized that the key to a Western victory was to bring about a Sino-Soviet split. Achieving this goal by the early 1960s and bringing the two powers very near to a total conflict significantly increased prospects for a Western victory in the Cold War, with the end of the previously united front seriously undermining nationalist and leftist movements opposing Western designs from Africa and the Middle East to Vietnam and Korea. Both states learned the true consequences of this in the late 1980s and early 1990s when there was a real risk of total collapse under Western pressure. Attempts to bring an end to China’s national revolution through destabilization failed in 1989, although the USSR was less fortunate and the results for the Russian population in the following decade were grave indeed.

Today the Sino-Russian partnership has become truly comprehensive, and while Western experts from Henry Kissinger to the late Zbigniew Brzezinski among others have emphasized the importance of bringing about a new split in this partnership this strategy remains unlikely to work a second time. Both Beijing and Moscow learned from the dark period of the post-Cold War years that the closer they are together the safer they will be, and that any rift between them will only provide their adversaries with the key to bringing about their downfall. It is difficult to comprehend the importance of the Sino-Russian partnership for the security of both states without understanding the enormity of the Western threat – with maximum pressure being exerted on multiple fronts from finance and information to military and cyberspace. Where in the early 1950s it was only the Soviet nuclear deterrent which kept both states safe from very real Western plans for massive nuclear attacks, so too today is the synergy in the respective strengths of China and Russia key to protecting the sovereignty and security of the two nations from a very real and imminent threat. A few examples of the nature of this threat include growing investments in social engineering through social media – the results of have been seen in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Ukraine, a lowering threshold for nuclear weapons use by the United States – which it currently trains Western allies outside the NPT to deploy, and even reports from Russian and Korean sources of investments in biological warfare – reportedly being tested in Georgia, Eastern Europe and 韩国.

The partnership between Russia and China has become truly comprehensive, and is perhaps best exemplified by their military relations. From 2016 joint military exercises have involved the sharing of extremely sensitive information on missile and early warning systems – one of the most well kept defense secrets of any nuclear power which even NATO powers do not share with one another. Russia’s defense sector has played a key role in the modernization of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, while Chinese investment has been essential to allowing Russia to continue research and development on next generation systems needed to retain parity with the United States. There is reportedly cooperation between the two in developing next generation weapons technologies for systems such as hypersonic cruise and anti aircraft missiles and new strategic bombers and fighter jets which both states plan to field by the mid-2020s. With the combined defense spending of both states a small fraction of that of the Western powers, which themselves cooperate closely in next generation defense projects, it is logical that the two should pool their resources and research and development efforts to most efficiently advance their own security.

Cooperation in political affairs has also been considerable, and the two parties have effectively presented a united front against the designs of the Western Bloc. In 2017 both issued strong warnings to the United States and its allies that they would not tolerate an invasion of North Korea – which was followed by the deployment of advanced air defense systems by both states near the Korean border with coverage of much of the peninsula’s airspace. Following Pyongyang’s testing of its first nuclear delivery system capable of reaching the United States, and renewed American threats against the East Asian country, China and Russia staged near simultaneous 演习 near the peninsula using naval and marine units in a clear warning to the U.S. against military intervention. China’s Navy has on several occasions deployed to the Mediterranean for joint drills with Russian forces – each time following a period of high tension with the Western Bloc over Syria.

In April 2018, a period of particularly high tensions between Russia and the Western Bloc over Western threats both to take military action against the Syrian government and to retaliate for an alleged but unproven Russian chemical weapons attack on British soil, the Chinese Defense Minister Wei Fenghe traveled to Russia and more explicitly stated that the Sino-Russian partnership was aimed at countering Western designs. Referring to the Sino-Russian defense partnership as “as stable as Mount Tai” 他说: “the Chinese side has come to show Americans the close ties between the Armed Forces of China and Russia, especially in this situation. We have come to support you.” A week later China announced large-scale live fire naval drills in the Taiwan Strait – which according to several analysts were scheduled to coincide with a buildup of Western forces near Syria. Presenting a potential second front was key to deterring the Western powers from taking further action against Russia or its ally Syria. These are but a few examples Sino-Russian cooperation, which is set to grow only closer with time.

造酒者: The US remains the most formidable military power in Asia, but this military power is being eroded as a result of severe miscalculations of the US political leadership. How serious a crisis do you think the US is now facing in Asia and how do you assess the risks of a military confrontation between the US and the various Asian powers (China, the Philippines, the DPRK, etc,).

A.B. Abrams: Firstly I would dispute that the United States is the most formidable military power in the region, as while it does retain a massive arsenal there are several indicators that it lost this position to China during the 2010s. Looking at combat readiness levels, the average age of weapons in their inventories, morale both publicly and in the armed forces, and most importantly the correlation of their forces, China appears to have an advantage should war break out in the Asia-Pacific. It is important to remember that the for the Untied States and its European allies in particular wars aren’t fought on a chessboard. Only a small fraction of their military might can be deployed to the Asia-Pacific within a month of a conflict breaking out, while over 95% of Chinese forces are already on the region and are trained and armed almost exclusively for war in the conditions of the Asia-Pacific. In real terms the balance of military power regionally is in China’s favor, and although the U.S. has tried to counter this with a military ‘Pivot to Asia’ initiative from 2011 this has ultimately failed due to both the drag from defense commitments elsewhere and the unexpected and pace at which China has 扩大 and 现代化的 its armed forces.

For the time being the risk of direct military confrontation remains low, and while there was a risk in 2017 of American and allied action against the DPRK Pyongyang has effectively taken this option off the table with the development of a viable and growing arsenal of thermonuclear weapons and associated delivery systems alongside the modernization of its conventional capabilities. While the U.S. may have attempted to call a Chinese and Russian bluff by launching a limited strike – which seriously risked spiraling into something much larger – it is for the benefit of all regional parties including South Korea that the DPRK now has the ability to deter the United States without relying on external support. This was a historically unprecedented event, and as military technology has evolved it has allowed a small power for the first time to deter a superpower without relying on allied intervention. Changes in military technology such as the proliferation of the nuclear tipped ICBM make a shooting war less likely, but also alters the nature of warfare to place greater emphasis on information war, economic war and other new fields which will increasingly decide the global balance of power. Where America’s answer to the resistance of China and North Korea in the 1950s to douse them with napalm, today winning over their populations through soft power, promoting internal dissent, placing pressure on their living standards and ensuring continued Western dominance of key technologies has become the new means of fighting.

That being said, there is a major threat of conflict in the Asia-Pacific of a different nature. Several organizations including the United Nations and the defense ministries of Russia, Singapore and Indonesia among others have warned of the dangers posed by Islamic terrorism to stability in the region. Radical Islamism, as most recently attested to by Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, played a key role in allowing the Western Bloc to cement its dominance over the Middle East and North Africa – undermining Russian and Soviet aligned governments including Algeria, Libya, Egypt and Syria – in most cases with direct Western support. CIA Deputy Director Graham Fuller in this respect referred to the agency’s “policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries.” Several officials, from the higher brass of the Russian, Syrian and Iranian militaries to the former President of Afghanistan土耳其总统, have all alleged Western support for radical terror groups including the Islamic State for the sake of destabilizing their adversaries. As the Asia-Pacific has increasingly slipped out of the Western sphere of influence, it is likely that this asset will increasingly be put into play. The consequences of the spread of jihadism from the Middle East have been relatively limited until now, but growing signs of danger can be seen in Xinjiang, Myanmar, the Philippines and Indonesia. It is this less direct means of waging war which arguably poses the greatest threat.

造酒者: Do you think that we will see the day when US forces will have to leave South Korean, Japan or Taiwan?

A.B. Abrams: Other than a limited contingent of Marines recently deployed to guard the American Institute, U.S. forces are not currently stationed in Taiwan. The massive force deployed there in the 1950s was scaled down and American nuclear weapons removed in 1974 in response to China’s acceptance of an alliance with the United States against the Soviet Union. Taiwan’s military situation is highly precarious and the disparity in its strength relative to the Chinese mainland grows considerably by the year. Even a large American military presence is unlikely to change this – and just 130km from the Chinese mainland they would be extremely vulnerable and could be quickly isolated from external support in the event of a cross straits war. We could, however, see a small American contingent deployed as a ‘trigger wire’ – which will effectively send a signal to Beijing that the territory is under American protection and that an attempt to recapture Taiwan will involve the United States. Given trends in public opinion in Taiwan, and the very considerable pro-Western sentiments among the younger generations in particular, it is likely that Taipei will look to a greater rather than a lesser Western military presence on its soil in future.

Japan and particularly South Korea see more nuanced public opinion towards the U.S., and negative perceptions of an American military presence may well grow in future – though for different reasons in each country. Elected officials alone, however, are insufficient to move the American presence – as best demonstrated by the short tenure of Prime Minister Hatoyama in Japan and the frustration of President Moon’s efforts to restrict American deployments of THAAD missile systems in his first year. It would take a massive mobilization of public opinion – backed by business interests and perhaps the military – to force such a change. This remains possible however, particularly as both economies grow increasingly reliant on China for trade and as the U.S. is seen to have acted increasingly erratically in response to challenges from Beijing and Pyongyang which has undermined its credibility. As to a voluntary withdrawal by the United States, this remains extremely unlikely. President Donald Trump ran as one of the most non-interventionist candidates in recent history, but even under him and with considerable public support prospects for a significant reduction in the American presence, much less a complete withdrawal, have remained slim.

造酒者: Some circles in Russia are trying very hard to frighten the Russian public opinion against China alleging things like “China want to loot (or even conquer!) Siberia”, “China will built up its military and attack Russia” or “China with its huge economy will simply absorb small Russia”. In your opinion are any of these fears founded and, if yes, which ones and why?

A.B. Abrams: A growth in Sinophobic sentiment in Russia only serves to weaken the nation and empower its adversaries by potentially threatening its relations with its most critical strategic partner. The same is applicable vice-versa regarding Russophobia in China. Given the somewhat Europhilic nature of the Russian state in a number of periods, including in the 1990s, and the considerable European soft influences in modern Russia, there are grounds for building up of such sentiment. Indeed Radio Free Europe, a U.S. government funded nonprofit broadcasting corporation with the stated purpose of “advancing the goals of U.S. foreign policy,” notably published sinophobic content aimed at depicting the Russian people as victims of Chinese business interests to coincide with the Putin-XI summit in June 2019. However, an understanding of the modern Chinese state and its interests indicates that it does not pose a threat to Russia – and to the contrary is vital to Russia’s national security interests. While Russia historically has cultural ties to the Western nations, the West has shown Russian considerable hostility throughout its recent history – as perhaps is most evident in the 1990s when Russia briefly submitted itself and sought to become part of the Western led order with terrible consequences. China by contrast has historically conducted statecraft based on the concept of a civilization state – under which its strength is not measured by the weakness and subjugation of others but by its internal achievements. A powerful and independent Russia capable of protecting a genuine rules based world order and holding lawless actors in check is strongly in the Chinese interest. It is clear that in Russia such an understanding exists on a state level, although there is no doubt that there will be efforts by external parties to turn public opinion against China to the detriment of the interests of both states.

The idea that China would seek to economically subjugate Russia, much less invade it, is ludicrous. It was from Europe were the major invasions of Russian territory came – vast European coalitions led by France and Germany respectively with a third American led attack planned and prepared for but stalled by the Soviet acquisition of a nuclear deterrent. More recently from the West came sanctions, the austerity program of the 1990s, the militarization of Eastern Europe, and the demonization of the Russian nation – all intended to subjugate and if possible shatter it. Even at the height of its power, China did not colonize the Koreans, Vietnamese or Japanese nor did it seek to conquer Central Asia. Assuming China will have the same goals and interests as a Western state would if they were in a similar position of strength is to ignore the lessons of history, and the nature of the Chinese national character and national interest.

造酒者: The Russian military is currently vastly more capable (even if numerically much smaller) than the Chinese. Does anybody in China see a military threat from Russia?

A.B. Abrams: There may be marginalized extreme nationalists in China who see a national security from almost everybody, but in mainstream discourse there are no such perceptions. To the contrary, Russia’s immense contribution to Chinese security is widely recognized – not only in terms of technological transfers but also in terms of the value of the joint front the two powers have formed. Russia not only lacks a history of annexing East Asian countries or projecting force against them, but it is also heavily reliant on China in particular both to keep its defense sector active and to undermine Western attempts to isolate it. Russian aggression against China is unthinkable for Moscow – even if China did not possess its current military strength and nuclear deterrence capabilities. This is something widely understood in China and elsewhere.

I would dispute that Russia’s military is vastly more capable than China’s own, as other than nuclear weapons there is a similar level of capabilities in most sectors in both countries. While Russia has a lead in many key technologies such as hypersonic missiles, air defenses and submarines to name a few prominent examples, China has been able to purchase and integrate many of these into its own armed forces alongside the products of its own defense sector. Russia’s most prominent fighter jet for example, the Flanker (in all derivatives from Su-27 to J-11D), is in fact fielded in larger numbers by China than by Russia itself – and those in Chinese service have access to both indigenous as well as Russian munitions and subsystems. Furthermore, there are some less critical but still significant sectors where China does appear to retain a lead – for example it deployed combat jets equipped with a new generation of active electronically scanned array radars and air to air missiles from 2017 (J-20 and in 2018 J-10C) – while Russia has only done so this in July 2019 with the 感应 of the MiG-35. Whether this is due to a Chinese technological advantage, or to a greater availability of funds to deploy its new technologies faster, remains uncertain. Russia’s ability to provide China with its most vital technologies, and China’s willingness to rely so heavily on Russian technology to comprise so much of its inventory, demonstrates the level of trust between the two countries

造酒者: Do you think that China could become a military threat to other countries in the region (especially Taiwan, India, Vietnam, the Philippines, etc.)?

A.B. Abrams: I would direct you to a quote by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Bin Mohamed from March this year. He stated: “we always say, we have had China as a neighbor for 2,000 years, we were never conquered by them. But the Europeans came in 1509, in two years, they conquered Malaysia.” This coming from a nationalist leader considered one of the most sinophobic in Southeast Asia, whose country has an ongoing territorial dispute with China in the South China Sea, bears testament to the nature of claims of a Chinese threat. It is critical not to make the mistake of imposing Western norms when trying to understand Chinese statecraft. Unlike the European states, China is not and has never been dependent on conquering others to enrich itself – but rather was a civilization state which measured its wealth by what it could its own people could produce. A harmonious relationship with India, Vietnam, the Philippines and others in which all states’ sovereign and territorial integrity is respected is in the Chinese interest.

A second aspect which must be considered, and which bears testament to China’s intentions, is the orientation of the country’s armed forces. While the militaries of the United States and European powers such as Britain, the Netherlands, Belgium and France among others are heavily skewed to prioritize power projection overseas, China’s military has made disproportionately small investments in power projection and is overwhelmingly tailored to territorial defense. While the United States has over 300 tanker aircraft deigned to refuel its combat jets midair and attack faraway lands, China has just three purpose-built tankers – less than Malaysia, Chile or Pakistan. The ratio of logistical to combat units further indicates that China’s armed forces, in stark contrast to the Western powers, are heavily oriented towards defense and fighting near their borders.

This all being said, China does pose an imminent threat to the government in Taipei – although I would disagree with your categorization of Taiwan as a country. Officially the Republic of China (ROC- as opposed to the Beijing based People’s Republic of China), Taipei has not declared itself a separate country but rather the rightful government of the entire Chinese nation. Taipei remains technically at war with the mainland, a conflict would have ended in 1950 if the U.S. had not placed the ROC under its protection. The fast growing strength of the mainland has shifted the balance of power dramatically should the conflict again break out into open hostilities. China has only to gain from playing the long game with Taiwan however – providing scholarships and jobs for its people to live on the mainland and thus undermining the demonization of the country and hostility towards a peaceful reunification. Taiwan’s economic reliance on the mainland has also grown considerably, and these softer methods of bridging the gaps between the ROC and the mainland are key to facilitating unification. Meanwhile the military balance in the Taiwan Strait only grows more favorable for Beijing by the year – meaning there is no urgency to take military action. While China will insist on unification, it will seek to avoid doing so violently unless provoked.

造酒者: In conclusion: where in Asia do you see the next major conflict take place and why?

A.B. Abrams: The conflict in the Asia-Pacific is ongoing, but the nature of conflict has changed. We see an ongoing and so far highly successful de-radicalization effort in Xinjiang – which was taken in direct response to Western attempts to turn the province into ‘China’s Syria or China’s Libya,’ in the words of Chinese state media, using similar means. We see a harsh Western response to the Made in China 2025 initiative under which the country has sought to compete in key technological fields formerly monopolized by the Western Bloc and Japan – and the result of this will have a considerable impact on the balance of economic power in the coming years. We see direct economic warfare and technological competition between China and the United States – although the latter has so far refrained from escalating too far due to the potentially devastating impact reprisals could have. We further see an information war in full swing, with Sinophobic stories often citing ‘anonymous sources’ being propagated by Western media to target not only their own populations – but also to influence public opinion in Southeast Asia and elsewhere. Influence over third parties remains vital to isolating China and cementing the Western sphere of influence. Use of social media and social engineering, as the events of the past decade have demonstrated from the Middle East in 2011 to Hong Kong today, remains key and will only grow in its potency in the coming years. We also see a major arms race, with the Western Bloc investing heavily in an all new generation of weapons designed to leave existing Chinese and allied defenses obsolete – from laser air defenses to neutralize China’s nuclear deterrent to sixth generation stealth fighters, new heavy bombers, new applications of artificial intelligence technologies and new hypersonic missiles.

All these are fronts of the major conflict currently underway, and the Obama and Trump administrations have stepped up their offensives to bring about a new ‘end of history’ much like that of the 1990s – only this time it is likely to be permanent. To prevail, China and Russia will need to cooperate at least as closely if not more so as the Western powers do among themselves.

造酒者: thank you very much for your time and answers!

 
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  1. Biff 说:

    从技术上讲,台北仍在与大陆交战,如果美国不将中华民国置于其保护之下,冲突将在1950年结束。 如果冲突再次爆发为公开的敌对行动,大陆的快速增长的力量将极大地改变力量平衡。

    台湾对大陆的经济依赖也大大增加,

    台湾几乎甚至不是整个亚洲。 台湾的货架上很少有西方制造的物品,并且在未来的几年中,苹果和微软将成为该地区的恐龙。 宾利和梅赛德斯仍然会在那里。

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  2. Alfred 说:

    This article correctly makes clear that many “analysts” in the West are projecting their own vision of how the world works onto China. But China is different.

    The Chinese were able to acquire most of the silver that the Iberians took by force from the Americas without going to war. That makes China a truly fearful competitor.

    I suspect Trump is being told it is either now or never.

    Martin Armstrong’s model predicts that China will be the financial centre of the world in 13 years.

    China – the Financial Capital of the World After 2032

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/china/chine-the-financial-capital-of-the-world-after-2032/

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  3. anonymous[290]• 免责声明 说:

    That being said, there is a major threat of conflict in the Asia-Pacific of a different nature. Several organizations including the United Nations and the defense ministries of Russia, Singapore and Indonesia among others have warned of the dangers posed by 伊斯兰恐怖 to stability in the region. Radical Islamism, as most recently attested to by Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, played a key role in allowing the Western Bloc to cement its dominance over the Middle East and North Africa – undermining Russian and Soviet aligned governments including Algeria, Libya, Egypt and Syria – in most cases with direct Western support. CIA Deputy Director Graham Fuller in this respect referred to the agency’s “policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries.” Several officials, from the higher brass of the Russian, Syrian and Iranian militaries to the former President of Afghanistan and the President of Turkey, have all alleged Western support for radical terror groups including the Islamic State for the sake of destabilizing their adversaries. As the Asia-Pacific has increasingly slipped out of the Western sphere of influence, it is likely that this asset will increasingly be put into play. The consequences of the spread of jihadism from the Middle East have been relatively limited until now, but growing signs of danger can be seen in Xinjiang, Myanmar, the Philippines and Indonesia. It is this less direct means of waging war which arguably poses the greatest threat.

    There is hardly such a thing called “Islamic Terrorism.” In most egregious cases, such as IS, etc., it can be shown that those lowlifes have been the mercenaries of the evil West and their accursed implant in the ME (and nowadays the hindutvars too), collectively the avowed enemies of true monotheism, Islam. I am including the recent Colombo attacks here.

    How can any so-called “muslim” who is a tool-of-evil of the enemies of Islam, be a true muslim? How then can it be termed “Islamic Terror”? Perhaps “Islamic Apostate Terror” would be more suitable.

    Of course, there are many other non-IS muslims who are called “terrorists.” The Palestinians, the Kashmiris, etc. For us muslims, they are simply freedom fighters.

    Finally, there are a few muslims who do kill in the name Islam… the Charlie Hebdo killers, Bombay\Dhaka attackers, etc. Some of them are justified (due to intense provocations) and others not at all. I will leave it for others to judge which falls under which category. Perhaps the listed order will help decipher that.

    It must be conceded, when it comes to setting the narrative of pure deceit, the West (and its minions, the Jooscum and their lickspittle, the hindutvars), like in all things bad, can be satanically good. We muslims are being decimated in the propaganda war.

    We still got our True Monotheism though. The pagan/godless enemies of the Almighty One are doomed to fail against it. God willing.

  4. Sean 说:

    The American system ran on immigration that kept discontent about massive inequality under control because a substantial proportion of the lowest SES were immigrants just glad to be in the US. The tAmerican ruling class decided they could make more money by offshoring everything that could be offshored and mass immigration to keep wags from going up in the non offshorable parts of the economy.

    China and America’s venal globalising elite had converging agendas, but could not fool the common people of America and their tribune . Even the military had began to get alarmed about the economic growth and technological progress of China, which had been benefiting from officially sanctioned preferential treatment by the US since Carter. Free ride is over for China, we will see China’s economic and military strength progressively tested. What America built it can break. Russia will be secretly pleased.

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  5. 为平衡起见,中国是帝国主义大国。 它覆盖了许多县,并在许多国家(例如韩国和越南)建立了控制权(但通常不是殖民地)。
    目前它也占领了西藏,它无意放弃和试图与汉族人进行殖民。 非洲正忙于殖民地,有可能长期控制其经济。 即使过去从来不是殖民大国,不断变化的大国关系和现代技术也意味着它将来也将如此。 权力腐败,绝对权力绝对腐败

    • 同意: Mr. Hack
  6. peterAUS 说:

    My previous comment got lost in limbo.
    说得通。

    我会再尝试。

    I would dispute that the United States is the most formidable military power in the region, as while it does retain a massive arsenal there are several indicators that it lost this position to China during the 2010s. Looking at combat readiness levels, the average age of weapons in their inventories, morale both publicly and in the armed forces, and most importantly the correlation of their forces, China appears to have an advantage should war break out in the Asia-Pacific.

    在那儿停止阅读。

    First Godfree Roberts and then this fellow.
    说得通。
    “Pivot to China”…..talking about social intelligence.
    Feels god and probably pays better, though.
    What’s not to like.

  7. I greatly admire the Saker’s writings and interviews and agree – and think the pattern of history supports it – that a ‘major conflict is underway’. I fear the signs do point to the end of history, but not the type optimistically forecast in the 1990s. Thank you for this thought provoking interview with A.B Abrams. Not all problems can be solved, but the one denied never can.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  8. Cyrano 说:

    China was made an economic superpower by the US elites. Not because they felt sorry for China and wanted to speed up conversion to democracy by switching them to capitalist way of doing business first.

    They made them an economic superpower, because the US elites have lost their marbles. They simply didn’t see it coming. They wanted to turn China into one giant cheap sweatshop in order to exploit their population with a low paying manufacturing jobs, which were never supposed to make China reach.

    But they did, because no matter how much the lost generation of the western elites were foaming at their mouths about knowledge based economy, value added economy, high tech jobs and the other crap, it is obvious that manufacturing remains a basis for any strong economy. That doesn’t look like it’s going to change even when you add robots to the mixture.

    I think that Napoleon was right when he warned the world about waking up the sleeping dragon. First they made them an economic superpower, and now they want to contain them militarily. Good luck with that.

    There is a reason why China wants to build the silk road. Silk road implies land. The US military has never been any good at land warfare. Neither where their predecessors – the British. China, on the other hand, showed in Korea that even then, with a backward army, equipped with handouts from the Soviet Union, they can pretty much trash the US army.

    With the silk road initiative, China will seize the control of the entire Euro-Asian land mass – the most populous and economically productive region of the world and will be more than happy to let the US play pirates on the seas.

    • 同意: Andrei Martyanov
    • 回复: @Bob
  9. Two minutes before midnight.
    Two ticks till doomsday.
    What cause will it take to fright
    Men to peace this day?

  10. Stalwart Raimondo passes this day.
    Your invincible lance seeks the grail,
    Brave Perceval, past witches who slay,
    Hateful warmongers who shan’t prevail.
    The blood of your steel pierces the veil
    Of death to peace in the King’s green dale.

    • 同意: Counterinsurgency
  11. @John Taylor

    Just think of the task the colonizers are undertaking for themselves if they hope to impose Chinese levels of discipline and social control on the happy-go-lucky Wakandans.
    A program of enforced birth control like the one that prevailed for decades in the PRC could be welcome news for the countries on the northern side of the Mediterranean.

    • 回复: @Counterinsurgency
  12. pyrrhus 说:

    I think most of the interview is just common sense…China has never had global ambitions territorially, and the notion that US forces would even make a dent in Chinese territory is ludicrous, given our small group of combat arms divisions and long supply lines against a vast and well equipped Chinese army on home territory.

  13. @Alfred

    This article correctly makes clear that many “analysts” in the West are projecting their own vision of how the world works onto China. But China is different.

    Absolutely the same goes for Russia too. “Russian Studies” field in the West is, generally, a sewer.

    • 同意: bluedog
  14. 艾布拉姆斯(Abrams)对西方在5os和60年代后期的裂痕给予了太多的赞誉。

    That was NOT the doing of the CIA or Western Europe. It was 90% the fault of Mao who tried to shove Khrushchev aside as the head of world communism. Because Stalin had treated Mao badly, Krushchev wanted to make amends and treated Mao with respect. But Mao turned out to be a total a-hole. There are two kinds of people: Those who appreciate friendly gestures and those who seek kindness as ‘weakness’. It’s like Hitler saw Chamberlain’s offer as weakness and pushed ahead. Being kind is nice, but one should never be kind to psychopaths, and Khrushchev was nice to the wrong person. Mao only understood power. He sensed Khrushchev as ‘weak’ and acted as if he wanted to be the new Stalin. He also made international statements that made the US-USSR relations much worse. He berated Khrushchev for seeking co-existence with the West and pressed on for more World Revolution. He also ignored Soviet advice not to attempt radical economic policies(that were soon to bring China to economic ruin — at least Stalin’s collectivization led to rise of industry; in contrast, Mao managed to destroy both agriculture and heavy industry). When Stalin was alive, he didn’t treat Mao with any respect, and Mao disliked Stalin but still respected him because Mao understood Power. With Stalin gone, Khrushchev showed Mao some respect, but Mao felt no respect for Khrushchev who was regarded as a weakling and sucker.
    It was all so stupid. China and Russia could have gotten along well if not for Mao’s impetuosity. Of course, Khrushchev could be reckless, contradictory, and erratic, and his mixed signals to the West also heightened tensions. Also, he was caught between a rock and a hard place where the Eastern Bloc was concerned. He wanted to de-Stalinize, but this could lead to events like the Hungarian Uprising.

    Anyway, Putin and Xi, perhaps having grown up in less turbulent times, are more stable and mature in character and temperament than Mao and Khrushchev. They don’t see the Russo-China relations as a zero sum game of ego but a way for which both sides can come to the table halfway, which is all one can hope for.

    • 回复: @Peter Grafström
    , @Anon
  15. Bob 说:
    @Cyrano

    听起来你忘记了中国在入侵时被越南踢了。

  16. Seraphim 说:
    @Bob

    The mosquito bite on the elephant, forty years ago when China was not yet what she is today.

  17. @Priss Factor

    希特勒认为(内维尔)张伯伦软弱,你可能是对的。 但希特勒是英国更聪明、更狡猾的精英的骗子,他们成功地让他听从了他们的命令。 希特勒和纳粹的主要成员都受到了内维尔的堂兄的重大影响,他促使纳粹走向“最终解决方案”。
    内维尔并没有像希特勒想象的那样软弱,而是从他自己的将军手中拯救了希特勒。
    在历史的转折中,当英国出现软弱的时候,多半是故意的昏倒。
    无论是在加里波利、1919 年的圣彼得堡、挪威还是二战的新加坡。

  18. 艾布拉姆斯先生为启蒙困惑的西方机构所做的杰出贡献。

    相比之下,中国历来以文明国家的概念为基础进行治国,在这种理念下,​​其强弱不是以他人的弱点和征服来衡量,而是以其内部成就来衡量。 ”

    在我看来,美国有很好的机会在二战后以积极的方式制定计划,但却失败了。 主要原因是没有达到上面引用的中国人的特征。 从最好的意义上鼓励潜在的成就者。
    相反,美国寡头政治阻碍了独立和创造性的思考,并对民众进行了洗脑,削弱了他们的力量。
    肯尼迪试图鼓励他的同胞,但其他力量占了上风。

  19. Mr. Hack 说:

    As a mouthpiece for Chinese interests (grant eater status?) Abrams does an obviously weak analysis of Chinese political and military ambitions painting its recent military build-up as being nothing more than actions of a defensive posture. Indeed, in almost every paragraph the word ‘defensive’ is over emphasized (ad nausea), much as Germany projected in the 1930’s and the Soviet Union did in the 1960’s.

    当艾布拉姆斯(Abrams)试图描绘俄罗斯这个文明的国家时,我几乎在裤子里笑了起来,俄罗斯是一个尊重国际规范和旨在维护和平的规则的保护者:

    一个强大而独立的俄罗斯能够保护基于真正规则的世界秩序并控制无法无天的行为者,这非常符合中国的利益。

    So how does one explain Russia’s aggressive actions and theft of the Crimea and continued support of Ukrainian separatists in Eastern Ukraine? How doe one square these actions of a Russia that was a guarantor of Ukraine’s statehood and the inviolability of it borders spelled out clearly in the Budapest Memorandum? You really can’t and still keep an honest face. This new book clearly has the markings of a propaganda piece, nothing more. Russia needs to do a better job of holding itself back from being a ‘lawless actor’.

  20. Americans cannot understand our relations with China by looking at events just the past 75 years. During the century before, European imperial powers and the United States treated China as a open borders business opportunity backed by foreign military force. China was infested by mini-colonies to profit from China’s riches. The “Opium Wars” shock decent Americans.

  21. sarz 说:

    Mr Abrams seems to be saying the opposite of what he means when he speaks of Russia ESCHEWING the principle of sovereignty. I think he means AFFIRMING.

  22. Thank you to The Saker and A. B. Abrams for this fine piece. Some details here and there appear to smooth out certain wrinkles in Russian and Chinese history lest they prove deleterious to his point. (Not that I particularly mind. Goodness knows the popular projection of American history, for example, is anything but an honest one.)

    例如:

    Russia not only lacks a history of annexing East Asian countries or projecting force against them…

    Certainly that was not for lack of trying on the part of Russia. They were, after all, part of the Eight-Nation Alliance that intervened in the Boxer Rebellion. Not only that, but they projected their influence upon Mongolia, held the colonies of Ryojun and Dairen on the Chinese mainland (later ceded to Japan), and had designs on Manchuria and Korea (which triggered the Russo-Japanese War).

    Otherwise, a very fine interview and look forward to reading the book.

  23. Cyrano 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    Have you ever heard about this theory: If you really love something – set it free, if it comes back – it’s yours. If not, it was never meant to be.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-mysteries-love/201505/if-you-love-something-set-it-free

    I think that’s the outlook that Ukrainians should adopt vis-à-vis Crimea. Although to be honest with you, I don’t think you are capable of that kind of magnanimity.

    Have you ever read Franz Kafka’s Metamorphosis? I think that’s what happened to you – the Ukrainians . From wonderful human beings called Russians, you turned into ghastly giant cockroaches. Luckily for you, you can still reverse your metamorphosis – just declare yourself Russians and the whole nightmare will be forgotten.

    • 同意: Iris
    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
    , @bluedog
  24. Antares 说:

    For uninformed readers (like Mr. Hack) the article may be an eye-opener, but not for readers of UR. How many of us could have written the same article? So it is a good story but not for us (but still way too good for Mr. Hack).

    I just happened to think this morning about China’s neighbour: whatever Russia does, it is always wrong in our eyes. First they were an empire and the French invaded them. Then they were a communist dictatorship and we held them strangled in a cold war, after we failed to invade them. Today they have a market-oriented economy and we surround them with military bases and propaganda.

    Same with China. A weak China will be ripped, a strong China will be whipped.

    Nevertheless, I feel a bit sorry for that little (and perhaps lost) commentator. Lets help Mr. Hack a little: free and transparent elections. Now think about Crimea. Do the math!

  25. @Buck Ransom

    Just think of the task the colonizers are undertaking for themselves if they hope to impose Chinese levels of discipline and social control on the happy-go-lucky Wakandans.

    This is actually a major danger. Should the US become preoccupied with internal affairs and let the rest of the world go its own way, China would remain largely dependent on African resources and would have a free hand. China can’t project major land forces to Africa.
    There are only a few military solutions to this problem, and they’re all pretty horrific by contemporary standards as of 2019. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be use — mass starvation in China (again, after the Chinese thought it would never come back) would be pretty horrific as well.

    Let’s all hope it doesn’t happen, because it would be fundamentally destabilizing

    平叛

  26. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Cyrano

    From wonderful human beings called Russians, you turned into ghastly giant cockroaches. Luckily for you, you can still reverse your metamorphosis – just declare yourself Russians and the whole nightmare will be forgotten.

    If you really knew something about Ukrainian history, you would know that Ukrainians were once called “Ruthenians” and not “Russians”. Quite a difference, but perhaps a bit too much for a pea brain like yourself to comprehend, somebody who spends way too much time reading pop psychology to inform himself. Ukrainians, by and large, are comfortable living within their own skins and feel no compunction to metamorphise into something that they’re not (nor have ever been), especially if you suggest that they try and redefine themselves as the colonial masters that they’ve finally been able to shed, after centuries of Russian bondage.

    • 哈哈: RadicalCenter
    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Cyrano
    , @Anon
  27. Tangentially related, but check out this great interview with Putin:

    https://www.ft.com/content/878d2344-98f0-11e9-9573-ee5cbb98ed36

    The man’s intelligence and seriousness is always impressive. The contrast with the nauseating rubbish that comes out of Western politicians could not be more striking, no wonder they hate the guy.

    • 回复: @Jacques Sheete
    , @anon
  28. MLK 说:

    I’ll keep it simple for a gaggle that’s still shouting about World Historical centrality of Zionism.

    The US lost the post-Cold War quarter century. CCP China won it hands down.

    POTUS Trump has pulled off something quite miraculous: Reversing America’s decline into a second-rate power in every respect. Most importantly, getting Americans to accept how thoroughly our Governing Elites screwed up our UniPolar Moment. Does it get any more pathetic than that in geopolitics, a piddling quarter century?!

    By the latter part of the Obama presidency it was obvious that the USG, under the rubric of Globalism, would make a self-defeating “Asia Pivot” as cover for our Governing Class to manage our comprehensive decline.

    Contra what everyone expected, the US is led by a powerful POTUS. I know it makes you feel stupid and bad about yourselves, but it’s no longer deniable. Watch the G20 interactions and contrast these with Obama (in Hangzhou) in 2016.

    China/Xi is making its peace with the failure of The Resistance to remove Trump from office. More importantly, it cannot allow its position (economically; geopolitically) to deteriorate for another two years, let alone six, waiting out Trump.

  29. Desert Fox 说:

    Thank God for Putin and Russia as they are the only hope in a world of zionist predators that are turning the west into a immoral mass of degenerate hell.

    Putin is the only sane leader on the world stage and is leading Russia into a place of leadership in an insane zionist controlled world!

    • 同意: Republic
  30. Anonymous[318]• 免责声明 说:
    @John Taylor

    America occupies Hawaii and is currently trying to crowd out the native population. So how is this different than Tibet?

  31. Anonymous[318]• 免责声明 说:
    @Bob

    The Vietnamese are a potent people. They kicked Americas ass as they did the French too.

  32. sarz 说:

    A very informative piece. I was struck by the respondent’s detached objectivity. I wonder how that is possible given the thorough corruption of American academia. The author’s biographical details are not readily available on the internet. I wonder what Mr Abram’s business model is. Perhaps, like our Ron Unz, he is independently wealthy.

    • 回复: @Republic
  33. Agent76 说:

    May 22, 2015 A Military ‘Pivot to Asia’

    The US is up in arms over Chinese construction of islands in the South China Sea. US spy planes buzzing the islands are asked to keep away. Meanwhile, the US continues to construct more military bases in the region.

    Nov 1, 2015 Global Conflict and the Geopolitics of US-China Relations

    With reports emerging that China has signed on to Russia’s military coalition in Syria at the same time that the Chinese are signing new cooperation agreements with the US, the question is once again being raised: What is the nature of China-US rivalry?

    • 回复: @Sean
  34. AnonFromTN 说:

    Now, this is the key difference between China and the collective West:

    Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Bin Mohamed from March this year. He stated: “we always say, we have had China as a neighbor for 2,000 years, we were never conquered by them. But the Europeans came in 1509, in two years, they conquered Malaysia”.

    The truth hurts, and it hurts the US and its sidekicks more than anybody else.

    • 回复: @denk
  35. Sean 说:
    @Agent76

    What is the nature of China-US rivalry?

    Very simple, it is the size and trajectory of growth China’s economy is on relative to America.

  36. denk 说:
    @John Taylor

    MOron,
    All of you are squatting on the biggest land grab in human history, what a bunch of idiots.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/native-american-immigration-man-500/

  37. denk 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    Unfortunately the 5liars have such thick hide,
    not even a D.U. shell can punch thru.

    Just look at the way 5liars keep lecturing on human rights and rule of law, while they’r the most worst abusers of such.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  38. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alfred

    A lot of what you call ” iberian silver ” went to central europe , to the Fugger bankers to pay for the protestant wars .

    And most of the american silver was reinvested in the development of the Americas , in three centuries the Spanish founded 1000 cities , 700 hundred of them in the 16 th century , see list . The most important ones had Universities , Cathedrals , Hospitals , ports etc…..Many present US cities were founded by Spain .

    https://www.historiadelnuevomundo.com/index.php/2015/01/fundacion-de-ciudades-espanoles-en-el-nuevo-mundo-en-el-siglo-xvi/

  39. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Priss Factor

    A lot of what you call ” iberian silver ” went to central europe , to the Fugger bankers to pay for the protestant wars .

    And most of the american silver was reinvested in the development of the Americas , in three centuries the Spanish founded 1000 cities , 700 hundred of them in the 16 th century , see list . The most important ones had Universities , Cathedrals , Hospitals , ports etc…..Many present US cities were founded by Spain .

    https://www.historiadelnuevomundo.com/index.php/2015/01/fundacion-de-ciudades-espanoles-en-el-nuevo-mundo-en-el-siglo-xvi/

    • 回复: @Priss Factor
  40. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    Mr. Fack ,

    In the EU we do not want ever ,ever , ever , rutenians , ucranians , jojols , semipolacks , pontics , or whatever , to join the UE . Too many easteners already in the EU , we do not want them , you do not belong to western Europe .

    Like Dante said ” lasciate ogni speranza ” ( leave all hope ) you are condemned to live in the hell of your hate . Russian Crimea and Donbass escaped fron the jojolistani hell , and maybe other eastern provinces will end up breaking too from Reichskommissariat Ukraruina .

    • 同意: Cyrano
  41. Cyrano 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    Really? I thought that prior to being Ukrainians you were known as “little Russians”. I suspect that the “little” referred to the size of your brains.

    I suggest that you start thinking about yourselves as radical Russians. Because that’s what US does. It goes to Afghanistan – it creates there radical Muslims. Goes to the middle east – same thing. Then it was your turn.

    Too bad that you seek a confirmation of your self-worth in the imaginary love that US has for you. Little Russians might have also referred to the Russians having little love for you, but it’s still better than the quantity of love that the Americans have for you – which is 0. But don’t listen to me. Keep trying 🙂

  42. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    ….after centuries of Russian bondage.

    Mr. Fack

    if the russians held on bondage the übermenschen rutenians , how come that the rutenians got low price oil and gas from the russian tyrants ? , how come that the jojols had the same per capita income than the russians opressors ? , how come that the ukraruinas had a lot of the russian heavy industry and build planes , tanks , rockets , aircraft carriers ? how come that most ukropians freely preferred to speak a real language ( russian ) rather than the ruteno-polack good for nothing dialect ?

    if the russians were so despotic how come that now that Ukraruina is free , the per capita income of Ukraruina went down and now is lower than Senegal , about 3000 dollars /year ??? , maybe …. maybe … that the IQ of rutenians is low , very low ?? oh, my God , white supremacists will have to reconsider their theories ….

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
    , @AnonFromTN
  43. Republic 说:
    @sarz

    I have published widely on defense and politics related subjects under various 假名. I am proficient in Chinese, Korean and other regional languages.

    I don’t think abrams is this persons real name

    • 回复: @Sean
  44. Sean 说:

    Where in the early 1950s it was only the Soviet nuclear deterrent which kept both states safe from very real Western plans for massive nuclear attacks, so too today is the synergy in the respective strengths of China and Russia key to protecting the sovereignty and security of the two nations from a very real and imminent threat

    No one would be fool’s-mated using nuclear weapons in a global war they were going to win, and no one is going to start a conventional war that they could not hope to win.

    Neither blok can even imagine what a successful shooting war would look like. The idea that America would get into a land war with China or Russia, which would be required to defeat the, is preposterous. The way America takes down enemies is by economic and technological boycotts combined with arms races that overheat the enemy’s economy.

  45. Sean 说:
    @Republic

    That he chose that name certainly speaks well to his understanding of certain realities.

  46. @Beefcake the Mighty

    The man’s intelligence and seriousness is always impressive. The contrast with the nauseating rubbish that comes out of Western politicians could not be more striking, no wonder they hate the guy.

    Yep, it’s good to know that there are a few adults in the room and not only pre-adolescent braying strutters, narcissistic buffoons, pleonectic psychopaths and other assorted biped trash stinking up the place.

  47. @Sean

    Free ride is over for China, we will see China’s economic and military strength progressively tested. What America built it can break. Russia will be secretly pleased.

    “Free ride? Ha ! The Chinese have worked as few people could have worked to get where they are today. If you think anything much was handed to them on a plate by the US or anyone else you are kidding yourself. America did not “build it” and I think they will have their work cut out to even “dent it”, never mind “break it”. At a time when the US had H-bombs and the Chinese did not have even A-bombs, Mao said the Americans and all reactionaries were paper tigers and he was right. Now, the Tiger’s paper is beginning to tear and all the World can see the rents. Under their present government the Chinese are, in my opinion unstoppable. Suck it up. Get used to it! It won’t do you any harm. It might even do you some good.

    • 回复: @Mefobills
  48. AnonFromTN 说:
    @denk

    虚伪和板着脸说谎的能力是西方唯一没有对手的东西。 “奥美同志”的故事占欧美“新闻”的一半以上。 美国的另一半是关于好莱坞荡妇结婚/离婚的故事。 羊狼吞虎咽。 与今天的西方男男性接触者相比,苏联真理报是诚实的典范。

    • 回复: @denk
  49. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Anon

    天哪,低智商的乌克兰人正在享受他们美丽的首都基辅。 我想他们一定是太愚蠢了,不知道他们有多糟糕。 你住的地方有这么好的吗?

    斑点:https://www.youtube.com/b08c4fff-f454-4fb6-ace3-95933d1b2320

    • 回复: @Andrei Martyanov
  50. bluedog 说:
    @Cyrano

    Not to worry about the Ukraine for in ten years or less it won’t even be on the world map,the people of the Ukraine are much like their kin the Poles who would cut off their nose to spite their face.and the Poles are welcome to the.

    • 同意: Cyrano
    • 回复: @Cyrano
  51. anon[264]• 免责声明 说:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Paywall. durn it.

    To supplement the Saker’s interview, recommend Bonnie Faulkner interview of Michael Hudson — a good tutorial on Hudson’s thought

    https://www.unz.com/audio/gunsbutter_the-imf-and-world-bank-partners-in-backwardness-407/

  52. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Anon

    You (and a few others on this thread) are making two pretty common mistakes.

    First, you are arguing with a Ukie as if it is a normal human being, citing facts, appealing to logic, etc. Those who know the facts, who are open to arguments, who have logical thought process (or any though process, for that matter) cannot be Ukies. True believer Ukies deny the facts (or are genuinely dumb enough not to know them) and never succumb to human logic.

    Second, you mix up Ukrainians and Ukies. Ukrainians, who constitute the majority of the population, know the score well enough. That’s why they run away in droves out of that shithole, some to Russia, some to Europe. Their main weakness is that they expect someone else to fix their would-be country. Some hope that Russia will do it for them, some pin their hopes on the US/EU.

    The US (currently the EU is a nonentity, a lowly vassal of the US) never cared about any aborigines. The US treats them as disposable condoms: uses them and then throws away. The majority of the American population, often including the US President, never learns where yet another “Nambia” is located on the map. CNN journos placing Ukraine somewhere in Pakistan on live TV are typical. What’s more, 90% of the viewers never caught their mistake.

    Anyway, the greatest weakness of Ukrainians is not that they don’t understand that their country is in deep shit. They know that, but they don’t allow the thought that nobody will fix their country for them. Yet it’s their job, and theirs only.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  53. Mefobills 说:
    @foolisholdman

    “免费乘车? 哈 ! 中国人付出了很少的努力才能达到今天的水平。 如果您认为美国或其他任何人在盘子上给了他们很多东西,那么您在自欺欺人。

    The truth has a resonance to it. After the “end of history” wall street saw in China, billions of consumers. Wall street then mobilized capital and off shored industry. One technique used is green-mail. Green mail entails targeting a companies total assets, including pension funds. The green mailer then borrows new bank credit into existence, and then mounts a take over of said company. The targeted company is enjoined to move to China “or else.” The else is that targeted company will be taken over and then moved to China anyway. It is a heads I win tails you lose scenario, where captains of american industry were coerced to leave. Wall street then gets wage arbitrage on the China price.

    中国通过创造人民币(通过他们的国有银行)然后在不平衡的商业贸易中兑换美元来帮助实现这一场景。 中国还以包括贿赂和盗窃在内的各种技术瞄准了技术和战略行业。

    Two things can be true at the same time. America can have bad actors and so can China. The Wall Street/China gambit was much more beneficial to China than American main-street. It helped Wall Street – who became a hero, while main-street U.S.A became a zero.

    Patrimony of the U.S. was monetized for cheap by the Wall Street China gambit. The past knowledge was transferred for today’s arbitrage, and screwed the future. It takes little effort to transfer knowledge and innovation, but it takes much effort to invent and create.

    In short, China did work, but they were also gifted, and this gift was costly to U.S. main-street. Losing patrimony and your future is not calculated in monetary terms, but if it was, it far exceeds the China’s TBill debt holdings.

  54. Mefobills 说:

    It is important to remember that the for the Untied States and its European allies in particular wars aren’t fought on a chessboard. Only a small fraction of their military might can be deployed to the Asia-Pacific within a month of a conflict breaking out, while over 95% of Chinese forces are already on the region and are trained and armed almost exclusively for war in the conditions of the Asia-Pacific. In real terms the balance of military power regionally is in China’s favor, and although the U.S. has tried to counter this with a military ‘

    Abram’s makes an important point here. America inherited Atlantacism and Rim Theory from Zionist Britain. Atlantacism as a construct includes debt spreading banking corporations working in league with “international” corporations. This construct came into being in 1694 with advent of Bank of England.

    Rim theory is the control of a country by naval power. Rim’s are those land areas that touch the sea, and hence naval blockades prevent a targeted country from getting critical resources, e.g. oil, minerals, or food.

    Both China and Russia operate in a defensive military posture with area denial. This posture along with belt and road, is a LAND POWER construct. Rail and air are the nodes for moving minerals and goods about, and hence the RIM becomes less important. Land powers use tanks and air power to protect their interiors.

    Atlantacism and its neo-liberal economics lose the future, because belt and road land power uses close-in defense. Close-in defense does not depend on vulnerable long distance supply chains.

    The U.S. is already a continental country. It is a form of hypnosis that America has adopted BIZWOG (Britain Israel World Government) when America has all it needs. America is 不能 an island country that has to use atlantacism and rim theory. America is actually closer to China/Russia in terms of resources and economy, than it is to Britain and its finance ((capital)).

    China has already won, and traitors are internal to the U.S.

  55. @Anon

    但是请注意,西班牙和拉丁美洲相对于北欧和北美而言都开始滞后。

    此外,德国受到宗教战争的打击最大。 但是德国变得更加伟大,而西班牙再也没有恢复它。

    • 回复: @Anon
  56. Recently talked to a western leftie former volunteer in Donetsk People’s Republic army —- decent guy of course —- courageous, but very dogmatic, very much on the defensive to any view slightly at variance to his idealized personal ideology: Lenin/Stalin : good, Putin: good, Assad: good. And now China : the model of new socialism, social justice, global justice, for him. Black and White. Good against Evil. OK.

    A Russian professor who a few years ago — I think accurately — suspected China to be a hybrid between worst aspects of Soviet totalitarianism plus most parasitic opportunistic aspects of Totalitarian liberal economic globalism —- China the greatest single benefactor of West’s globalism drive since 1991, and Russian people, the greatest victims and losers —- a match made in heaven? not. The great professor now claims that Chinese capitalism is actually good. Why? Consider the mode of funding for social sciences in Russia.

    I thought I would ask all you Western fans of Putin to pause and ask yourself, is Mr. Putin likely to really share your own rosy assessment of things? Mr. Putin is arguably as astute judge of characters, personal or national.

    But I realized it is pointless. Good and bad, black and white. The world is simpler, and life simpler, that way.

    A big hello to Mr Tennessee! Sorry we did no manage to discuss more. I liked all of your recent posts.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @Biff
  57. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    我不知道你的教条,但生活肯定不是黑白的,有许多灰色调。 阿萨德并不一定要比美国及其在叙利亚的支持者的败类具有不可估量的好。 事实上,那些谁了美国支持的败类的力量下生活的不幸叙利亚人阿萨德今天最热情的支持者。 与斯大林一样:他不需要变得比希特勒更好就可以了。 只是不那么糟糕就足够了。

    再说一次,普京和习近平都不需要特别好,才能成为比附庸美国全球化更好的选择。 更何况目前俄罗斯和中国的外交政策是理智的,而那些执行美国外交政策的人则属于疯人院。 实际上,推动俄中同盟的最大动力来自疯狂的美国政策。 只有一个彻头彻尾的白痴才能同时对抗俄罗斯和中国,而我们有第二个这样做。

    我不认为普京比 Pax Americana 更想要 Pax Sinica。 他正在努力在世界上创造多极化。 事实上,这符合美国作为一个国家的最佳利益,但这种理智的状态对美帝国的疯狂精英来说是一种诅咒。 基本上,帝国比任何敌人都更能破坏自己。 普京和习近平都在努力确保世界在人类历史上最疯狂的帝国灭亡后幸存下来。 我不知道习近平是怎么想的,但普京肯定会努力使从废墟中出现的东西变得宜居,即一个多极世界。

    • 同意: Ron Unz
  58. Biff 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    A Russian professor who a few years ago — I think accurately — suspected China to be a hybrid between worst aspects of Soviet totalitarianism

    Maybe your Russian professor could send us some examples of what he professes?

  59. Cyrano 说:
    @bluedog

    Maybe we are too harsh on the Ukrainians. No, I am serious. I mean, look – even the Europeans have fallen for it. Even Europe seeks US approval. That’s why they followed them down the abyss commonly known as multiculturalism.

    Ukraine made similar mistake. Even Russia. Of course, it took the Russians less than a decade to figure out what the Americans are all about. Ukrainians and the Polish are just stubborn – they think that if they keep believing in a fantasy – it will become a reality.

    Why would anybody seek love and approval from a country that doesn’t love even its own people is a mystery to me. That’s what multiculturalism is all about.

  60. @Biff

    Man, ya gotta love Taipei 101:

    Anyone know what the tower to the right is in the center pic?

  61. @AnonFromTN

    but they don’t allow the thought that nobody will fix their country for them. Yet it’s their job, and theirs only.

    The same can be said of many nations facing existential threats, even the US. But for many small nations in a world of big sharks, it may be difficult, if not impossible to survive without some external help. And then some hope for the Second Coming to solve their problems, although a little divine intervention is always helpful. But ultimately God helps those who help themselves.

    • 同意: Ilyana_Rozumova
  62. denk 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    它当然是一个 真理 那个美国,事实上, 5个骗子 领导力是虚伪、傲慢和废话的同义词

    然而,
    也一天比一天清楚,这也是大多数5个骗子公民的标志。
    【我对15%的光荣例外表示歉意】

    拥有良好的业绩记录……。
    美国、加拿大、奥兹、新西兰、夏威夷、波多黎加、关岛、德戈加西亚、冲绳、济州、
    冰山一角,……

    一般的乔仍然有胆识讲人权,法治,殖民和 所有的爵士乐,

  63. @Mefobills

    资本主义的法则是,董事会的职责是最大化投资者的回报。中国开放后,许多美国公司能够利用中国劳动力,这些劳动力不仅价格便宜,而且与受过良好教育的美国劳动力相比。 因此,他们或多或少不得不借此机会将制造活动转移到中国。

    中国共产党不允许他们在不转移一些技术的情况下逃脱,在我看来,这归功于他们。 毕竟,选择是美国人的,他们没有 已可以选用 转移其产品,无论是否“绿色邮寄”。 (我不记得当时有任何爱国的美国人抱怨中国的绿色邮件是邪恶的。)

    至于其他方面,中国政府从建国之初,历经艰难困苦,在STEM教育上投入巨资,美国工业也从中受益,凝聚了强大的设计团队与单独在美国工作相比,在中国这样做的成本要低得多,而且成本要高得多。 美国的教育体系似乎主要集中在降低人口数量上,这不能怪中共。

    • 回复: @Mefobills
  64. @Mefobills

    两件事可以同时成立。 美国可能有坏演员,中国也可能有坏演员。 华尔街/中国的策略比美国的主要街道对中国更有利。 它帮助了华尔街——他们成为了英雄,而美国的主要街道则成为了零。

    Main St USA 的问题是 Main St China 没有的问题是,它没有寻求改善民生的政府。
    正如中国流行歌曲所说:没有共产党,没有新中国

  65. @Bob

    越南人甚至打败了蒙古人! 这样做的人并不多。

  66. @Mr. Hack

    解释一下俄国人对克里米亚的破坏有什么规则。 (那么,如果您关心美国在科索沃问题上违反了哪些规则。)
    基辅的非法政府用武力袭击了乌克兰东部的公民。 你会让俄罗斯人做什么,他们没有做什么,或者他们做了什么?
    AFAIR 布达佩斯备忘录向乌克兰保证,其他签署国,美国和俄罗斯,如果放弃核武器,将不会以核武器威胁乌克兰。 据我所知,“不保证国家地位”。 无论如何,谁能保证呢? 他们很可能很想分手。 (一个英国!)

  67. @AnonFromTN

    实际上,我对 DNP 军队中来自欧洲的志愿战士没有任何意见——这是一项光荣而英勇的努力。 我对枯燥的俏皮话的尝试你可以拒绝。 确实怀疑 Saker 的大多数美国粉丝永远不会走那么远,但是——

    除此之外:今天繁荣的中国是一个巨大的实体,其民族心态和社会习俗是在 30 年以来的 1989 年中形成的——新帝国的繁荣之旅,如果没有大规模、持续和事后看来,来自整个西方世界的上层精英——全球化精英——的愚蠢支持。 事后看来,简单的事实支持自由全球化与中美同义的定理。 没有中美,就没有全球化。

    而上述民族心态的核心是什么? 对诡计和道教兵法的崇拜,隐藏在一个隐含的、不公开的但被所有汉族中国人理解的层次上,最高的民族自豪感,对试图建立“以规则为基础的自由主义”的“善意”的自由主义全球主义者的蔑视世界秩序”,对日本人和俄罗斯人的蔑视和仇恨,因为他们要么不像过去那样卑鄙和讨厌,要么在戈尔巴乔万集体愚蠢的巨大配合中挥霍自己的帝国,变得贫穷。 他们完全蔑视基督教、伊斯兰教或任何非汉族、非唯物主义的文明和种族。 尤其是恶毒的仇恨和报复当然是为生活在汉帝国边缘的华人或非华人保留的——香港、台湾、维吾尔族、藏族。

    明白了,对于生活在美国或西方的人们来说,以上所有可能都是新闻。

    但特朗普先生,也许是因为他自己是一个自恋的不择手段的卑鄙小人,确实正确评估了中国当前国粹的这一方面。 不是理智上的,而是本能上的。 这就是为什么他不遗余力地撤消中美洲的原因。 如果他下令撤销所有反俄制裁,他将被暗杀。 这就是为什么他保持对普京名义上的敌意,同时坚定地将目标转向中国。

    我现在支持俄中联盟,是为了俄罗斯最好的民族自保差异。 我不支持“相信它”。 先生,我想你明白这一点。

    我对普京先生的战略才华不失去信心。 我不太乐观,俄罗斯目前的社会和经济疲软,内部腐败,能否让她在与中国的经济兄弟情谊中生存下来。 我希望我是错的。

  68. Anonymous [AKA "Surface Tension"] 说:
    @Biff

    Saker 在 CIA/Open Democracy 假新闻部门工作,在那里人工智能和成年男子编织宣传来管理感知。 美国出售武器以获取利润,未使用的武器不会产生更多利润。 对于军事工业综合体和富有的撒旦崇拜者来说,发射的每一枚导弹都意味着数百万美元。 Taiwaan是一个管理良好的美国独裁政体,长期以来一直是美国MIC暴利的管道。 煽动战争的巨额利润——统治阶级制造了所有旨在控制国内人口的战争和国际紧张局势。 请注意,台湾突然必须拥有 F-35。 接下来应该采访 Elaine Chao——如果这些墙有耳朵就好了。

  69. Arioch 说:

    > 俄罗斯仅在 2019 年 35 月推出 MiG-XNUMX 后才这样做

    …。撰写发表于2019年XNUMX月的文章

    LOL

  70. Anon[424]• 免责声明 说:
    @Priss Factor

    拿破仑的法国入侵摧毁了西班牙,造成了三个世纪的西班牙帝国的毁灭,他们失去了市场统一、货币和行政,分裂成许多落入英国、洋基和法国殖民统治的小国。

    好吧,我更喜欢一个不像德国的“伟大”那么伟大的西班牙,而是和平与繁荣的西班牙。 如果用德国的“伟大”来表示种族灭绝的掠夺者,种族灭绝的狂热纳粹,种族主义,世界上最愚蠢的哲学家像康德,默克尔的IV帝国的欧洲历史..... nein danke。

    • 回复: @Anon
  71. Yee 说:

    “他们完全鄙视基督教,伊斯兰教或任何非汉族,非物质主义的文明和种族。 当然,对于生活在汉帝国边缘的中国人或非中国人(香港,台湾,维吾尔族,藏族),尤其会保留恶性仇恨和报复性。”

    哇,我不知道我们应该讨厌这么多文明和人民! 你知道中国有55个少数民族,不是吗? 加上所有的基督教、伊斯兰教和其他非唯物主义文明。 我们没有与每个人都处于持续的战争中,这是一个奇迹。

    与此同时,欧洲人、阿拉伯人、印度人被允许认为他们的文明是最好的……

    艾布拉姆斯先生预测——“毫无疑问,外部各方将努力扭转舆论反对中国,损害两国利益。”
    你是其中之一吗?

  72. Mefobills 说:
    @foolisholdman

    资本主义的法则是,董事会的职责是最大化投资者的回报。中国开放后,许多美国公司能够利用中国劳动力,这些劳动力不仅价格便宜,而且与受过良好教育的美国劳动力相比。 因此,他们或多或少不得不借此机会将制造活动转移到中国。

    这是法律 金融 资本主义认为董事会是为了最大化资本。 在这种情况下,资本是金钱,也是遗产。 华尔街聚集资本,也将美国的遗产转移到中国。 他们这样做是为了进行工资套利。

    中国通过引导在不平衡的商业贸易中赢得的美元来帮助提高关税……说美元被汇入了TBills。 此举使美元价格处于高位,而美国利率却处于低位。 这样,华尔街/中国的竞争就一直在进行,这样中国就可以吸收更多的美国遗产,尤其是技术和专有技术。 返还的美元进入美国的货币供应,因此美国人可以购买更多的中国商品,从而使贸易不平衡长期存在。 (美元从TBills中分拆出来……Tbill由中国人持有,然后花去了前TBill持有人的美元。)

    因此,华尔街中国策略的双重作用是 金融 资本主义通过催眠,唯一重要的是“资本回报”,而“资本”一词定义不明确。 中国使用工业资本主义,因此他们将人民币信贷引入公地以利用回报。

    正如我在《 Unz评论》中多次指出的那样,中国 产业 资本主义经济体系,使用国有银行。 这几乎与美国从1868年到1912年运行的系统相同,被称为美国系统。 林肯的顾问亨利·凯里(Henry Carey)是该系统的主要架构师,后来由亨利·克莱(Henry Clay)和佩什内·史密斯(Peshine Smith)接手。

    所以,是的——美国人被金融类欺骗了,经济学家在美国大学里被错误的新自由主义经济学欺骗了。 1913 年之后,骗局才真正开始,高利贷用于资助催眠术。

    另一种说法,或者说是我不断听到的重复,是中国很光荣,而且都是他们自己做的。

    对不起,中国不是自己做的。 克服它。 中国确实(在美国叛徒的帮助下)偷窃了美国的遗产,并被赋予了天赋。 中国确实有目的地利用产业政策来针对美国的遗产。

    这种盗窃/礼物周期使两国人民受益,同时又剥夺了其他国家的权利。 例如,许多中国工人处于恶劣的工作条件下,因此这个技巧一开始并没有帮助他们。

    这场赌博的最大受害者是美国主要的街头劳工,因为他们的未来被转移到今天的一些甜美的中国工资套利中。 好吧,未来就是现在,美国被过去的行为掏空了。

    美国是一个寡头政治,由不关心人民的金融和商业利益管理。 中国确实有一个关心人民的统治阶级。

    我也多次指出,等级制度总是存在的,重要的是不要让敌对的人 (((elite))) 登基。

  73. @Mr. Hack

    这是维基百科(我们都知道他们“反对谁!”)关于这个主题:

    4 年 2014 月 13 日,俄罗斯总统在回答关于违反布达佩斯备忘录的问题时,将当前的乌克兰局势描述为一场革命,当“一个新国家出现时,但与这个国家以及关于这个国家,我们没有签署任何强制性的文件”。[XNUMX] 俄罗斯表示,它从来没有义务“强迫乌克兰任何一部分平民在违背其意愿的情况下留在乌克兰”。 俄罗斯建议美国违反《布达佩斯备忘录》,将欧洲maidan形容为美国煽动的政变。

  74. @Китайский дурак

    对诡计和道教兵法的崇拜,隐藏在一个隐含的、不公开的但被所有汉族中国人理解的层次上,最高的民族自豪感,对试图建立“以规则为基础的自由主义”的“善意”的自由主义全球主义者的蔑视世界秩序”,对日本人和俄罗斯人的蔑视和仇恨,因为他们要么不像过去那样卑鄙和讨厌,要么在戈尔巴乔万集体愚蠢的巨大配合中挥霍自己的帝国,变得贫穷。 他们完全蔑视基督教、伊斯兰教或任何非汉族、非唯物主义的文明和种族。 尤其是恶毒的仇恨和报复当然是为生活在汉帝国边缘的华人或非华人保留的——香港、台湾、维吾尔族、藏族。

    我问你:请问您更喜欢上述哪种心态+当前中国政府的外交政策
    OR
    每个人的爱,“所有种族都是平等的,我们希望每个人都有民主,自由,公平和对幸福的追求,可口可乐,肯德基,麦当劳等等。”美国外交政策?

  75. @Mefobills

    同意您的大多数观察。 除了关于中国精英关心人民的最后一份自信声明。 谷歌,然后单击“为中国婴儿注射的有毒免疫力”,“中毒粉中毒”,“维吾尔族和藏族人民融入中国大家庭的福利和幸福融合”。

    • 回复: @denk
    , @Mefobills
    , @Mefobills
  76. denk 说:
    @Yee

    他以俄罗斯人的身份发帖,如果是这样,那一定是逃犯
    从庇护所。

    更像是中央情报局的袜子木偶。

  77. denk 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    Google试用

    呵呵呵

    这个角色的精神前 <5

  78. @Yee

    “Yee”表示一个亚洲人的非中国音译,很可能是中文名字。 由于没有来自中国的优秀爱国男孩在加州大学洛杉矶分校学习或以其他​​任何方式拼写自己的名字而不是喻,所以我必须假设您的出身地是东南亚或香港附近的某个地方。

    我在东南亚旅行并不十分顺利,但是我走了一些路,才意识到在新加坡和马来西亚,“中国人民”确实是个贬义词,不需要任何资格,也就不意味着一种意识形态或民族情绪,以及在大批人中特别卑鄙,冒犯,寄生,侵略和非常不道德的状态。

    同样的印象在日本,泰国,台湾,香港,甚至蒙古牢固地定居下来。

    我说一口流利的普通话,并与一些来自中国的精英商人打过交道,对他们非常熟悉,他们毫不掩饰自己对东南亚人、香港和台湾人、俄罗斯人的真实看法,关于印度人。

    这个艾布拉姆斯先生,好吧,他的心在正确的地方。 他想从远处找一些盒子来适应他的意识形态。 他反对美国的单极化。 美好的。 我同意他的真诚愿望。 但我怀疑他一个字也不会说俄语或普通话。 而萨克先生是 100 年前离开俄罗斯的俄罗斯人的后裔。 他对当今俄罗斯的真实生活了解多少?
    他是否观察到一些真正的中国人和俄罗斯人在一个简陋的西伯利亚小镇从事生意?

    世界不是东西方,黑白,非彩色。 世界是圆的。

    如果您的生活经历中有一些原因使您渴望与一个大中华民族一较高下,那么我可以表示同情,但我真的认为,您可以做得比挂在卧室上的一面丑陋的中华人民共和国大国旗更好。 如果在美国的亚裔美国人值得自尊,那么维吾尔族一位年老的老师也不应与其他3万其他人一起被拖入集中营。 他们是中国公民。 您很可能不是。 您应该更加关心美国,而美国人就是您需要称呼“我们”的人。

  79. @denk

    是的,我是从精神病院逃出来的中央情报局逃犯。 你无法忍受的自由民主表亲认为克格勃策划了美国大选。

    很好地反映了生活在你的精英为你准备的中美挤压天空下的美国穷人的整体智慧和视野的狭窄,你呼吸困难,不断诅咒某人。

    • 回复: @denk
  80. denk 说:

    和其他 3 万人一起被拖进集中营。 一种

    你是个白痴。/中央情报局。

    QED

  81. denk 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    白痴

    我不是 murikkan 。

    大多数(如果不是全部)在这里发帖的中国人都不是中国公民,因此你的“海外华人憎恨中国”是一个他妈的谎言。

    您出事了,没有信誉。

    呵呵呵

  82. @foolisholdman

    中美是一种毒剂,它污染了氧气,而氧气则依赖于不完美但热爱自由的基督教,传统的旧美国,以及勤劳、相对诚实、泛太平洋的亚洲。 中国以陈旧威胁欧洲,以灭绝威胁俄罗斯。 中美把美国变成中美,把美国人变成脑死亡的心理失常的僵尸,从而威胁到美国。

    如果特朗普强迫的俄罗斯中国同盟帮助中美彻底瓦解,那将是件好事。 美国人比俄罗斯更喜欢从您那里拿走您的超大黄色新娘。

    • 回复: @foolisholdman
  83. @Китайский дурак

    我可以确认“中国人民”被视为我所居住的贬义词。
    当中国人在公共场合随地吐痰,排长队,大喊大叫他的电话,跳过公交车票价,试图通过电话进行身份欺诈,从房东那里偷家具或电器时,或者通常做一些当地民众无法想象的事情,通常证明他来自中国。
    我们知道它们来自残酷的社会,我们必须像愚蠢的羊一样被捕食,但是如果它们停止破坏我们高度信任的社会的结构,我们将不胜感激。

    那就是说我不讨厌中国国民。 我认为这是一种文化差异,因此在与他们打交道时会相应地调整自己的期望。
    我必须说,我发现中国的年轻一代人相当体面,尽管与他们的国籍相关的污名将使另一代人逐渐淡出我们的视野。

    • 回复: @denk
  84. @denk

    是的,中国人在整个亚洲都不是被鄙视和仇恨的。 我是一个疯狂的间谍。 你不是一个悲伤的失败者。 请让它停在这里。

    • 回复: @denk
    , @denk
  85. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    我不认为韩蔑视宗教意识形态是消极的:只有心理上和情感上不成熟的人才需要天上的父亲形象。

    您的汉族图片与西方MSM所提供的图片类似。 我的个人经历完全不同。 中国人在实验室的行为并不表明他们的优越感、种族主义或任何特别恶毒的东西。 我最好的和第二好的博士后是中文。 两人都很聪明,也很努力。 一个在美国大学找到了一个教职,另一个错过了她从事科学事业的机会,但嫁给了一个美国人。 我排名第二的研究生也是中国人,同样聪明勤奋。 她搬到美国担任博士后职位,正在与一位澳大利亚人(非汉族)约会。

    我同意,每个国家追求自己的利益,而不是其他国家的利益。 因此,每个领导人(包括中国人)都应该警惕自己国家目前所拥有的盟友的意图。 国家没有朋友,只有利益。 欧洲领导人对美国犯下的主要错误是,不要对“盟友”保持警惕。 价格很高:他们丧失了国家的主权,尊严和信誉。 当然,俄罗斯必须对中国的意图保持警惕,但目前美国及其同伙构成的危险比中国要大得多。

    至于腐败,考虑到美国在“国防”上的花费,与俄罗斯和中国相比,美国的腐败程度比其他两个国家都高出一个数量级。 普京巧妙地打出了比美国或中国更弱的牌。 他的主要优势在于,他不是为了摧毁他人,而是为了保持俄罗斯在多极世界中的地位。 如果他继续像现在这样散布赌注,甚至将沙特阿拉伯、土耳其、巴基斯坦和印度都带入游戏(这些国家都不比中国更值得信任),他很有可能成功。 如果中国从美帝国的错误中吸取教训,它可以成为新的相当稳定的世界的重要一极之一。 如果它像美国那样谋求完全的统治地位,那么中华帝国注定要崩溃和燃烧。

    在我看来,俄罗斯的主要弱点是没有像普京那样有能力和精明的明显继任者。 请注意,我不是普京的粉丝,但我不得不承认,许多世纪以来,俄罗斯很少有像他这样的领导人。 只有彼得大帝,凯瑟琳大帝和斯大林浮现在脑海。 他们都不是圣人,普京也不是。 就我个人而言,我不认为领导人应该是圣人,或者圣人可以成为一个国家的成功领导人。

    • 回复: @foolisholdman
  86. denk 说:
    @anonymous_from_SEA

    不久

    我们对中国的传闻成见可能 一些 真相曾经很久了,但是它已经变得如此稀有,我至少有十年没有见过一宗中国随地吐痰或排长队的情况。

    如今,他们仍然在彼此之间或对着手机大声说话,但这并不是中华人民共和国独有的。 许多其他国民甚至当地人也一样喧闹。

    无论如何,那个角色声称SEA CHINESE讨厌他们的中国表亲绝对是胡说八道。

    那个角色有一个隐藏的议程,你
    不知不觉地支持他的事业。

    • 回复: @anonymous_from_SEA
  87. peterAUS 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    ……上述民族心态的核心是什么? 对诡计和道教兵法的崇拜,隐藏在一个隐含的、不公开的但被所有汉族中国人理解的层次上,最高的民族自豪感,对试图建立“以规则为基础的自由主义”的“善意”的自由主义全球主义者的蔑视世界秩序”,对日本人和俄罗斯人的蔑视和仇恨,因为他们要么不像过去那样卑鄙和讨厌,要么在戈尔巴乔万集体愚蠢的巨大配合中挥霍自己的帝国,变得贫穷。 他们完全蔑视基督教、伊斯兰教或任何非汉族、非唯物主义的文明和种族。 尤其是恶毒的仇恨和报复当然是为生活在汉帝国边缘的华人或非华人保留的——香港、台湾、维吾尔族、藏族。

    说得好。
    特别是最后一句话。

  88. @denk

    我只说我看到的。

    例如,就在一个月前,我亲眼目睹了一名中国妇女试图从她租用的 airbnb 洋房里偷走一台 4k 电视的警察。 在我的工作中,如果我们有来自中国国民的要求,则有必要预先要求全额付款,这是歧视性的,因为我们不对当地客户这样做。

    但是,是的,把这种“仇恨”称为“仇恨”有点太多了。更多的是对他们缺乏信任。 我认识的大多数东南亚华人,尤其是马来西亚人,喜欢把中国当作他们的祖国,把中国人当作他们的堂兄弟,但这并没有改变他们是一个难以对付的事实。

    • 回复: @denk
  89. denk 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    一个匿名的轶事“证词”证明了中国在整个亚洲都讨厌?,大声笑

    是我们的其他废话……。
    中国讨厌香港人,tw。

    好,
    中华人民共和国讨厌 一定 香港,…
    那些抗议的人 联合杰克旗,打电话给自己的国家 晚餐. ,转到 污水池 在华盛顿特区亲吻庞培,卢比奥和佩尔索的屁股。

    这些卑鄙的人不仅被中国人鄙视,而且也受到所有中国人的尊严。

  90. @Mr. Hack

    天哪,低智商的乌克兰人正在享受他们美丽的首都基辅。

    您是否可以对基辅(Kyev)甚至没有在真正的伟大全球城市的规模上注册这一事实(我知道,一种吞咽的苦药)顺从一下? 莫斯科和圣彼得堡可以。 基辅唯一剩下的就是它的 Kreshatik。 它的基础设施很糟糕,尤其是道路。 对于乌克兰,在她作为一个国家的基础上,是“反俄罗斯”,这是一个痛苦的认识,即俄罗斯的生活比乌克兰好得多,拥有充满活力和不断改进的基础设施(最近在俄罗斯开过高速公路?),并且,是的,只是总体上更好的居住地。 是的,与莫斯科相比,基辅是一个烂摊子。 你知道吗,资本? svidomye 不断尝试给猪涂口红真的很有趣,这类似于过去 5 年相信乌克兰在顿巴斯与俄罗斯军队作战。 我多年来一直重复乌克兰作为一个政治国家发生的事情——她也将因此而死。

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Mr. Hack
  91. Mefobills 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    中国精英关心人民。 谷歌,然后单击“为中国婴儿注射有毒的免疫力”,“中毒粉中毒”,“维吾尔族和藏族人民融入幸福的大中国家庭的福利和幸福生活”。

    在配方奶粉中添加三聚氰胺的婴儿配方奶粉惨败是私人参与者的作用。 好像毒免疫枪是类似的,坏人正在被调查/起诉。 这些坏人要么是懒惰,要么是愚蠢,要么是想以牺牲人口为代价多赚人民币。

    西蒙·帕滕(Simon Patten)说:“政府是生产的第四要素。” 这意味着政府降低了其所属行业的价格。 政府的工作是监管或拥有非弹性部门的企业。 非弹性部门是没有现成价格竞争的部门。
    像婴儿注射这样的东西将是一个必须密切监控和监管的部门。

    由于人们不再购买商品,婴儿配方奶的不良行为者(私营企业)将受到市场的惩罚。 当中国人回避本地生产商并购买外国婴儿配方奶粉时,实际上就是这种情况。

    即使在竞争激烈,价格低廉的弹性行业中,也仍然需要进行监管。

    在金融资本主义中,工业试图贿赂和哄骗政府以减少管制或放弃垄断权力。

    在工业资本主义中,政体凌驾于工业之上,工业必须是一个好公民。 金融资本主义和工业资本主义在等级控制方面是对立的。

    中国共产党领导人掌权是因为他们与人民之间存在一种隐含的契约。 由于这些领导人不是选举产生的,他们必须为人民做正确的事,否则这些领导人就会成为非法的。 西方的选举赋予领导人以合法性的光泽,西方的领导人又被买来并付钱。

    西方有政体,民选领导人在其人民的正确领导下做事。 For example, Hungary had a constitutional kingdom that lasted for nearly 1000 years, where the elected king was (almost) always concerned about his subjects and not necessarily concerned about pleasing power groups. 您为什么认为我们的(((friends)))对匈牙利如此困扰?

    在很长的一段时间内,民选政府可以工作。 在美国,它不再有效。 立宪共和国已被证明是一种软弱的政府形式,很容易被金融篡夺和操纵,尤其是到 1913 年。

    中国已经赢了。 它有一种优越的经济形式,是美国的制度。 美国现在是一个寡头制国家,主要由金融部门运营,并表示寡头制是违背人民意愿的。

    ``一带一路''将确保获得矿产,能源,也将创造客户和良好的信誉。

    不幸的是,寡头必须先将他们的死手从分er上移开,否则必须被杀死或监禁。 在普京统治的俄罗斯,寡头们可以做出选择,离开这个国家,进监狱,或者取得领先(意思是一颗子弹射中头部)。

  92. Mefobills 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    “维吾尔族和藏族人民幸福幸福地融入中国幸福大家庭”。

    您对藏族的看法是正确的。 汉族自己夺取土地,推出藏族。 这是西藏的祖传土地,藏人甚至演变成高海拔地区。

    维吾尔族人被用于第四代战争,在那里他们被激进的伊斯兰教洗脑。

    MI6和CIA很高兴在自己的出色比赛中以步兵的身份传播Takfiri Islam。 Wahabbi Islam madrassas 在 90 年代被安装在车臣,然后分裂俄罗斯,同样的游戏正在与维吾尔人玩,然后分裂中国。

    在我看来,习近平的集中营是为了重写维吾尔族大脑中的叙事,以免发生故障。 如果Uhygurs确实开始出现故障并变得好战,则必须像普京杀死车臣的方式一样将其杀死。

    不像人民不相处,这就是为什么好篱笆造就好邻居。

  93. denk 说:

    这些香港人是卖国贼
    叔叔骗局,不仅在中国,而且在所有华人侨民中都受到鄙视。

  94. denk 说:
    @anonymous_from_SEA

    从我99.99多年来担任键盘战士的经验来看,《亚洲时报》,《卫报》,《 Wapo》,
    MOA、UNZ、SAKER……来自海外侨民,主要在东南亚。

    就像我说的那样,那个中国讨厌海外华人,反之亦然的人物夸张是胡说八道,不管你的亲身经历。

  95. denk 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    去谷歌上查询,

    听说过推所有 ' 的谷歌算法可取' 顶部的项目,由 维基 ……。;-)

    三百万人在集中营

    [原文]

    我的结论,……

    1] 你可能不是中央情报局,但肯定不是很聪明。

    2]你甚至更多 排汗的 比一些 murikkan 混蛋,那是在说些什么。

    嗯...

  96. @denk

    我认为您和我们的贪食者都没有对我们SEA中国人的想法有真实的认识。

    东南亚华人不恨中华人民共和国,因为我们被教导不要恨自己的人,尤其是我们这些在中国学校接受教育并在中国古典文学中长大的人。 我们生活在一些历史上曾对我们怀有敌意的人中间,因此种族团结已融入我们的文化中。 这就是我们生存的方式。

    同时,多年来,来到我们土地上的中国华人以不良甚至彻底的犯罪行为屡屡背叛我们的信任,这是我们对他们的不情愿。

    以华为禁令为例。 我认识的许多SEA中国人都对美国的伪善感到不安,并正在购买华为的设备以表示支持。 但是问他们是否愿意将自己的房屋租给中国国民,他们不愿意达成协议。

    中国国民认为我们东南亚华人低人一等的说法有一定的道理。 对他们来说,我们是华侨,并不是真正的典型中国人,尤其是那些不会流利地说英语的人。

    这种关系很复杂,并不是所有的玫瑰都像你想相信的那样。 但正如我所说,这些天来,中国的年轻一代给我们留下了更好的印象,而且情况越来越好。

  97. @denk

    我忘了补充:到目前为止,我一直在指亲中国的SEA汉语。

    东南亚有许多侨民完全西化,几乎不会(或不会)说他们的母语。 他们往往强烈反华,因为他们完全接受西方的价值观和宣传。

    这些可能就是恐华者所说的东南亚华人。

    • 回复: @Hong Xiu Quan
    , @denk
  98. @AnonFromTN

    就我个人而言,我不认为领导人应该是圣人,或者圣人可以成为一个国家的成功领导人。

    我同意这一点。 在少数成功的领导人死后成为圣人的案例中,我怀疑这通常更多是宣传而不是历史。

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  99. @Китайский дурак

    “ ChinAmerica”是什么意思? 哦! 没关系,帖子的其余部分也难以理解。 所以不要打扰。

  100. AnonFromTN 说:
    @foolisholdman

    是的。 对于不成功的领导者来说,情况也是如此。 比如说,俄罗斯沙皇尼古拉二世被俄罗斯东正教美化了,尽管他离圣人很远,作为领袖也很惨淡。

  101. anon[225]• 免责声明 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    您对最近在特拉维夫举行的美国,以色列,俄罗斯首脑会议有何看法?

    俄罗斯是否允许以色列轰炸叙利亚并同时向伊朗提供生存支持?

  102. Anon[747]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    德国和日本在第二次世界大战中被打败,但在经济上又回来了。

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  103. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Anon

    战后将近75年,这两个国家都被占领。 他们的政客们试图实行自己的外交政策,但是他们的成功是有限的。

  104. Yee 说:

    MEFOBILLS,

    “汉人正在夺取自己的土地,并驱逐藏人。 ”

    西藏比美国成为一个国家更早成为中国的一部分……如果西藏不应该是中国,那么今天的很多国家都不应该存在,欧洲的地图将变得面目全非。 事实上,英国甚至与清朝皇帝签订了边界条约,以证明西藏在清朝是中国的一部分。

    实际上,西藏是92%的藏族。 汉族不是“占领土地并驱赶藏人”,而是相反。 大约一半的藏族人口居住在汉族的土地上的西藏以外。

    中国有5.5万藏人,其中52%(3万)生活在西藏,其余48%生活在四川、云南、甘肃、青海等地。

    当然,西方媒体不会在意事实……

  105. Yee 说:

    Китайскийдурак,

    “你应该更关心美国,而美国人是你需要称其为‘我们’的人。”

    大声笑...我是中国公民。

    我很确定我认识的中国人比你多,尽管他们都是普通的工人阶级。

    嘿,如果您要与中国打交道的华人精英和您说的一样糟糕,那么我是在进行另一次文化大革命,他们似乎在要求这样做……

  106. @anonymous_from_SEA

    我不同意。 大多数海外华人是务实的,并不真正关心西方的价值观。 我是新加坡华人,我一般不喜欢移民,因此我不喜欢中国移民。 但反对中国移民并不等于反对中国。 我支持中华人民共和国,因为他们比西方更务实。

    • 回复: @denk
  107. 造假者:俄罗斯有些圈子正在极力吓to俄罗斯舆论反对中国的舆论,这些指控包括“中国想抢劫(甚至征服!)西伯利亚”,“中国将增兵并攻击俄罗斯”或“中国”。其庞大的经济只会吸收小俄罗斯”。 在您看来,这些恐惧中的任何一个是否成立,如果是,是哪些以及为什么?

    萨克,你是个傻瓜。 中国人试图以殖民西藏的方式殖民西伯利亚,如果成功,结果将是一样的。

  108. denk 说:
    @Hong Xiu Quan

    所有散居国外的人都应该支持中华人民共和国。

    练习 抽泣 1965 年在印东策划了一场政变,驱逐亲北京的普雷斯·苏加诺,“附带损害”将近 3M,几乎消灭了华人社区。

    中国太弱了,不能做狗屎,我想它确实派出了几艘船,遣返了许多想回国的幸存者。

    在1998, 抽泣 设计了一个大屠杀,以清除普雷兹·苏哈托(Prez Suharto), 按日期使用 由于他的现象不规则而过期。 暴乱者再次针对华人社区,数百名各年龄段的华人妇女被轮奸、残害和杀害。

    中国也没有能力提供帮助。
    实际上,一个伊斯兰教的恐怖分子在IHT中发出了黑暗的警告,“如果中国干预,那将构成 SEA 稳定性的破坏',!!!
    那个混蛋是什么意思……任何前往印度的中国船只都会被美国海军击沉?

    中华人民共和国知道这一点,很多人说如果中国强大得多,这些悲剧就不会发生。

    想象,
    如果INdon敢对那里的murikkan社区这样做,那么您认为他们多久会被B52轰炸并被murikkan海军陆战队占领?

    新的 抽泣 正在尝试渲染中文 21C的贱民 他们利用种族差异,煽动经济不满,煽动针对
    在东南亚地区的中国少数民族。

    只有具备进行R2p能力的非常强大的PRC才能防止 抽泣 精心策划的民族大屠杀在将来会抬起丑陋的头。

    PS
    希望我不必解释那些是谁 抽泣 !

  109. denk 说:
    @anonymous_from_SEA

    我知道这一切……

    新的 马丁 李在香港…

    新的 伊莱恩 台湾的 Chao 向她的 murikkan 导师吹嘘:“我的英语说得比普通话好” 呵呵呵

    当然有很多 沃格斯 在东南亚,
    尤其是新加坡,他们将自己视为西方的“民主国家”。

    但让它休息一下。

    那个小动物知道他已经被淘汰并溜走了。

  110. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    与莫斯科相比,基辅是个垃圾场。

    天哪,这隐藏的焦虑从何而来? 我并不是说基辅比莫斯科更好。 莫斯科肯定比基辅更大,摩天大楼更多,从各个方面来看,这是一个可爱的城市。 我想一定是乌克兰人仍然认为他们的首都是一个可爱的城市,许多大型绿色公园和林荫大道装饰着它的景观。 我将尝试重印上面没有拍摄的 YouTube 视频剪辑。 享受在阳光明媚的夏日漫步和享受他们的城市的乌克兰人的人群。 它是由一位选择住在基辅的美国人讲述的,现在已经这样做了两年。 现在没有必要失去一个螺丝钉了,安德烈。 顺便说一句,你为什么不住在莫斯科,而是住在美国? 🙂

  111. 你有一个神圣的法令来写一些关于以色列昨晚对叙利亚的导弹袭击......叙利亚防空系统到底发生了什么?

  112. @Mr. Hack

    如果在 1965 年 0 月之后只允许俄罗斯东正教基督徒进入美国,那对美国来说会更好……XNUMX 名非白人合法移民……而深南白人福音派基督徒被打包运往我们的恶魔以色列……

    一年中的任何一天,我都会带玛丽亚·扎卡洛娃 (Maria Zhakarova) 对付肮脏的爱尔兰 Skank Samantha Powers……

    • 哈哈: Mr. Hack
  113. @denk

    伙计,我不了解你,但我确实有工作。

    投射到某个不知名的人身上的无能为力的强迫性愤怒可能对您的判断力或健康不利。 那么我在你身上按下了什么按钮? 为什么不带上中华人民共和国国旗,飞到新加坡,殴打一些“叛徒”呢? 如果警察不立即将您送回非法入境,就去香港的警察部队当志愿者?

    我真的建议你搬到中国自己住几年,找任何你能找到的工作。 参加书面普通话和经典汉语课程。 享受大城市和摩天大楼,每天观看当地的肥皂剧。 请在两年后再找我,我们将重新考虑您被拒绝的CIA申请。 或者更好的是,莫斯科的FSB! 中国的伟大盟友! 好? 朋友?

    勇于面对现实是间谍生涯的第一次,朋友。

    还有幽默感。

  114. @Mr. Hack

    享受在阳光明媚的夏日漫步和享受他们的城市的乌克兰人的人群。 由选择住在基辅的美国人讲述

    你显然完全没有抓住重点——还有很多人喜欢开普敦这样的地方的视频,我听说每年这个时候罗安达都很可爱。 我敢肯定,有些人喜欢在巴格达甚至喀布尔的城市。 最后,是你提出了这个视频,试图准确地说明基辅在某种程度上是有趣的。 这不是因为它是第三世界狗屎洞的首都,并且像大多数地方一样,有一些旅游区。 除了几个干净的地方之外,基辅的现实与哈尔科夫、第聂伯罗彼得罗夫斯克等人的现实非常相似——基础设施瓦解,缺乏甚至勉强可通行的道路,犯罪率高,总而言之——人们对第三世界的一切期望。 我只是对“你的”视频做出了反应。

    现在没有必要失去一个螺丝钉了,安德烈。 顺便说一句,你为什么不住在莫斯科,而是住在美国?

    噢,天哪,著名的“塞缪尔·约翰逊”辩护/进攻论点。 我们之所以生活在美国,是因为我们在苏联解体后于1990年代中期移民到这里。 那是25年前的事了,那么,这个事实与乌克兰是一个狗屎坑,是一个完全功能失调的国家有何关系? 在乌克兰大规模人口减少和灾难性的去工业化背景下,人们“享受基辅”的视频证明了什么? A country which elected a clown for president. 多么合适。

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @Mr. Hack
  115. @Prof. Woland

    嗨,我认识一位18年前在西伯利亚经营旅游业务的人,他根据布尔加科夫的小说采用了Woland的笔名? 会是你吗?

    • 回复: @Prof. Woland
  116. @Prof. Woland

    萨克,你是个傻瓜。 中国人试图以殖民西藏的方式殖民西伯利亚,如果成功,结果将是一样的。

    投影多? 教授先生,殖民化具有一些特征(标志、特性),可以将一个国家的活动识别为殖民化。 如果这些特征,例如强加殖民政府、镇压机构、贵重物品(资源、物资等)经典出口到首都。 如果这些迹象不存在,那么就没有殖民化。 即使是大学里最愚蠢的政治“科学”一年级学生也知道这一点。 因此,我为您带来一些消息-将边境贸易误以为是“殖民化”,这告诉我,您正是在指责Saker身份。

  117. yurivku 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    这个艾布拉姆斯先生,好吧,他的心在正确的地方。 他想从远处找一些盒子来适应他的意识形态。 他反对美国的单极化。 美好的。 我同意他的真诚愿望。 但我怀疑他一个字也不会说俄语或普通话。 而萨克先生是 100 年前离开俄罗斯的俄罗斯人的后裔。 他对当今俄罗斯的真实生活了解多少?

    你是绝对正确的! Saker, Martyanov 对现实生活和感受几乎一无所知(或假装不了解) *真实的* 俄罗斯人对普京和他的政策。 但在这项政策的国际方面,他们有 80% 是正确的。
    任何一个 *前俄罗斯* 在这里,真正了解发生了什么的是AnonFromTN。

    当然其他人(*真正的美国人*)在这里绝对不了解所有俄罗斯人讨厌仇恨者或引述叛徒和撒谎之类的话,例如索尔岑尼琴(Soltzenitsyn)或崇拜普京的世界(少数民族)。
    这两个人绝对对辩论充耳不闻,并且生活在自己的虚拟世界中。

    让他们。

    我故意不提那些在这里也有很好代表的付费巨魔和完全愚蠢的人。
    但这一切使我对我们的未来感到非常悲观。

  118. @anonymous_from_SEA

    冷静地而不是没有同情心地欣赏它,列出简单的事实。

    对华裔的种族主义诋毁是低级和愚蠢的。 我不会与这些有任何关系。

    在中国长大的很大一部分人的道德缺陷对所有居住在中国附近的人来说是一个明显而现实的问题。 有些人可能不喜欢韩国人,有些人可能不喜欢缅甸人。 但许多中国公民的集体人格成长问题是另一回事。 我没有答案。 香港和新加坡的华人社会是非凡的、美丽的。 因此,任何走赛道的人都是白痴。

    • 回复: @foolisholdman
  119. 迈克·穆林斯海军上将对美国军方一视同仁……。因此,“ SATANIC潜龙女王”正在追捕3至5岁的孩子……..

    美国海军…。全球同性恋污秽和疾病的一支全球力量……

  120. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    我不会反对乌克兰人压倒多数选出总统的小丑这一事实。 记住,他们的另一个选择是猪肉。 甚至一个小丑也比Porky和他那帮盗贼,纳粹和纳粹盗贼好。 当然,这个小丑不会拯救乌克兰,但是即使是小丑也可以减缓其向深渊的下降。

    • 回复: @Andrei Martyanov
  121. @AnonFromTN

    连小丑都比猪肉好

    嗯,他当然比Porky聪明。 另一方面,正常人希望像乌克兰这样的避难所仍然是一个完全困惑的问题。

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  122. @Mefobills

    董事会要最大化资本,这是金融资本主义的法律。 在这种情况下,资本既是金钱又是遗产。 华尔街聚集了资本,也将美国的遗产转移到了中国。 他们这样做是为了进行工资套利。

    请说明“金融资本主义”不仅是(什么?非金融)资本主义的发展?

    在某种程度上,从某种意义上说,这是美国工人阶级自己造成的。 或者至少他们被警告了,但忽略了警告。 上世纪 50 年代、60 年代直到文革,中国共产党一直在对美国和世界各地的其他工人大喊:“造反! 反叛! 造反是有道理的! 世界工人联合起来! 除了锁链,您别无所求,您将获得一个世界! 你被你的统治阶级卑鄙地剥削了,他们只关心自己,只要价格合适就会把你卖掉!”

    然而,他们不仅被忽视,而且受到美国工人阶级的全面嘲笑,他们更愿意相信他们的媒体、政治家和美国梦,就像任何人一样。

    然后中国人不再试图引起世界工人对革命的兴趣,而是奉行“打不过他们就加入他们”的政策,对中国开放“剥削”,允许美国统治阶级认为他们会成为他们反对苏联的盟友。 不久之后,美国统治阶级一有能力,就出卖美国工人阶级,利用这个令人垂涎的机会,从中国人身上赚到很多钱。 资本主义制度的逻辑意味着他们几乎不得不这样做。

    现在,美国工人阶级与其责备自己,还不如责怪中国人! 真的,有时候听听人们想告诉你的事情是个好主意! 也许现在美国的工人将了解中共当时试图告诉他们的内容,但我担心集体记忆不会那么长。

    • 同意: Iris
    • 回复: @peterAUS
  123. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    承认吧,马尔佳诺夫,乌克兰是这样一个's______e',俄罗斯会冒着整个西方世界(然后是一些)认可的风险入侵它并掠夺克里米亚并继续在顿巴斯挑起战争? 或者它是否对俄罗斯更有价值,正如布热津斯基和其他国际专家所指出的那样,将其纳入俄罗斯轨道将使其重新纳入真正的帝国/超级大国的行列? 当然您不会承认这一点,但是为什么俄罗斯要冒这么少的回报却承担那么多的风险呢?

    • 回复: @Andrei Martyanov
  124. Cyrano 说:

    乌克兰是如此的's______e',以至于俄罗斯将冒着得到整个西方世界(然后是一些)认可的风险

    真的吗? 你真的那么傻吗? 给俄罗斯的备忘录:(不是说你需要我的任何东西,你比我聪明得多)

    如果西方突然开始认可你——那意味着你做错了什么。 立即停止那项赢得西方“认可”的活动——并反其道而行之。

    顺便说一句,布热津斯基是个白痴。 俄罗斯不需要乌克兰成为世界级强国。

    • 同意: Andrei Martyanov
    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  125. peterAUS 说:
    @foolisholdman

    …美国统治阶级卖光了美国工人阶级,…

    很好地总结了所有这些。
    正如我们所说的,在出售中产阶级的过程中。

    ……恐怕集体记忆没那么长……

    比这更深入。
    “阶级”的概念并没有在较低的……嗯……层……中注册。 美国社会。
    有趣,几乎。

    • 回复: @foolisholdman
  126. @Mr. Hack

    承认这一点,乌克兰的马尔蒂扬诺夫(Martyanov)就是这样一个's______e',俄罗斯将冒着入侵它并从克里米亚(R克里米亚)手中夺走整个西方世界(然后是某些世界)的风险。

    我承认,俄罗斯和俄罗斯不需要你。 伙计们,你可以去欧洲睡觉和做梦(眨眼,眨眼)。 根据克里米亚 - 当然。 俄罗斯停止喂食贪吃鬼,这就是普京的偷偷摸摸的计划。

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  127. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    正常人会希望像乌克兰这样的庇护所

    一个正常人,如果他/她试图从自己手中拯救乌克兰,很可能会被纳粹杀害,就像布齐纳一样。 任何有罪的人都不会受到惩罚,而那将是那次尝试的结束。 另一方面,小丑是经营疯人院的完美选择(假设没有精神康复的希望)。

    • 回复: @Andrei Martyanov
  128. @AnonFromTN

    一个正常人,如果他/她试图从自己手中拯救乌克兰,很可能会被纳粹杀害,就像布齐纳一样。

    奥莱斯坚信乌克兰是俄罗斯的“延伸”——他是一个了不起的人。 我告诉了我的妻子——ne zhiletz。 我真希望我错了,可惜我错了。

  129. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    您的皇冠上的明珠,您的“梦遗”:

  130. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Cyrano

    如果西方突然开始认可你——那意味着你做错了什么。 立即停止那项赢得西方“认可”的活动——并反其道而行之。

    然而,“伟大的”俄罗斯民族主义者安德烈·马尔佳诺夫(Andrei Martyanov)表演了各种心理杂技,试图捍卫他选择生活在你所描述的颓废西方 25 年的原因。 他甚至同意你的看法——我认为你们都是白痴! 看起来像马尔佳诺夫'批准' 住在西方,他似乎是一个颓废的扶手椅俄罗斯民族主义者! 🙂

    • 回复: @Cyrano
  131. Cyrano 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    你的“逻辑”经不起推敲。 从任何指标来看,中国现在都是世界级的经济强国,但仍有数百万中国人继续生活在西方。 都是叛徒吗? 当然不是。

    生活在国外并不意味着你谴责你的祖国或他们的政策。 更糟糕的是,中国仍然要对付像台湾和洪从这样的真正的叛徒。 – 谁只是为了更多的“民主”而示威? 真的吗? 当他们是GB的殖民地时,他们变得更加“民主”了?

    这只是向您显示–乌克兰人并不是那么独特。 美国已经掌握了使兄弟对抗兄弟的技巧。 因此,不要为自己感到难过。 只是已经尝试变聪明了。 他们正在使用您。 他们不在乎你。

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
    , @cassandra
  132. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Cyrano

    我不会真正关心 Martyanov 住或不住的地方。 只是他试图(像你一样,虽然我不知道你住在哪里)诋毁西方和美国,并将他的祖国俄罗斯提升到山的高度。 奥林巴斯,但不知何故仍然设法住在美国。 正如阿纳托利卡林正确指出的那样,还有更多像马尔佳诺夫这样的“俄罗斯民族主义者”。 居住在美国的大量中国人并不是大肆宣传的民族主义者,就像 Martyanov 喜欢假装自己是。

    • 回复: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @Cyrano
  133. cassandra 说:

    从上面:

    相比之下,中国历来以文明国家的概念为基础进行治国,在这种理念下,​​其强弱不是以他人的弱点和征服来衡量,而是以内部成就来衡量。

    来自华盛顿的告别演说:

    对于外国而言,我们的大行为准则是​​,扩大我们的商业关系,使其与它们之间的政治联系尽可能少。 到目前为止,我们已经建立了合作关系,使他们能够以完美的真诚实现。 让我们停下来。

    看来我们在某个地方转弯很糟。

  134. gT 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    没错,自从布热津斯基70年代首次访华以来,中国一直是整个全球化/一个世界政府议程的重要组成部分。

    联合国被认为是一个世界政府的模范治理模式,而欧盟被认为是一个世界政府的模范运营模式,而中美洲却被认为是一个世界政府的制造和军事运营模范。 一个世界政府是一项长期议程,联合国、欧盟和中美只是通向这一长期议程的垫脚石。

    你说得对,俄罗斯在与中国打交道时最好小心谨慎,因为正如一位中国评论员之前提到的那样——与西方打交道是你的金钱或生命,与中国打交道是你的金钱和生命。

  135. cassandra 说:
    @Cyrano

    美国已经掌握了兄弟相亲的技术。

    确实,很难想象会有比这更兄弟相残的冲突。 舍甫琴科在莫斯科大学用他新发明的乌克兰语创作诗歌,令人生畏的安东诺夫运输机是在著名的基辅(前苏联)航空局制造的。 我们也不应该忘记,赫鲁晓夫曾经有足够的信任让乌克兰在塞瓦斯托波尔获得黑海舰队的席位,这在当时是有争议的。

    当然,乌克兰西部的西方民族主义可以追溯到18世纪的波兰分区,随后俄罗斯的加入也与此有关。 大饥荒在记忆中更加新鲜,尽管它是 不能 这是一种严格的种族现象,就像黑土地区(例如克拉斯诺达尔)的其他人一样,也遭受了苦难。 无论如何,这使纳粹煽动了班德拉及其追随者对斯大林(以及加利西亚的一些波兰人)的种族仇恨。 正是 Nuland 需要作为手柄握住的东西。

    普京可能将俄罗斯进入黑海的权利让给西方挑衅者是不可能的。 恕我直言,利用俄罗斯在克里米亚的主导地位进行全民公投是迄今为止避免这种危险的最具破坏性和最明智的方式。

    尽管如此,这个破碎的国家并不是一个愉快的结果。

    • 同意: Cyrano
    • 回复: @Andrei Martyanov
  136. @peterAUS

    比这更深入。
    “阶级”的概念并没有在较低的……嗯……层……中注册。 美国社会。
    有趣,几乎。

    是的! 正确的! 我们都是“一时苦恼的百万富翁”!

    至于所谓的“中产阶级”,他们也是工薪阶层,虽然很多人会愤愤不平地否认。

  137. @Китайский дурак

    我认为,内地人的不良行为很可能是独生子女政策的“意外后果”。 这些人中的大多数已经成长为他们父母希望和愿望的唯一焦点,因此,(用一个非常恰当的词组)“被宠坏了”。 他们得到了父母能给予他们的每一个愿望,几乎没有拒绝他们想要的任何东西。 相信老大陆人称他们为“小皇帝”。

  138. Sane Humans这样的Hassan Nasarhalla合理地辩称,如果特朗普下令轰炸伊朗……它将如此违反人类理智和理性的可容忍界限,以至于特朗普将永远不会这样做……这是一个非常低概率的事件……。

    大家怎么看? 美国是一个社会,它容忍 SATANIC LOOKING DRAG QUEENS 在公共图书馆为 3-5 岁儿童阅读儿童书籍......

    你觉得呢?

  139. @cassandra

    令人生畏的安东诺夫运输机是在著名的基辅(前苏联)航空局制造的。 我们也不应该忘记,赫鲁晓夫曾经有足够的信任让乌克兰在塞瓦斯托波尔获得黑海舰队的席位,这在当时是有争议的。

    一点历史:安东诺夫局是一个搬到乌克兰的新西伯利亚组织,你猜对了,赫鲁斯,他自己是一个......来自乌拉尔的俄罗斯人。 塞瓦斯托波尔从未被转移到乌克兰,因为它始终是联盟城市(Soyuznogo)的重要性和中央下属(Centralnogo Podchineniya),并且实际上是从莫斯科运行的城市。 这种“兄弟情谊”也存在一些问题。 它一直是一条单行道,最糟糕的一种是俄罗斯人变成了乌克兰人。 这些病例中的大多数是无法治疗的。

  140. @Mr. Hack

    我不会真正关心 Martyanov 住或不住的地方。

    哦。 来吧,不要那么防御-这是您唯一关心的事情,也是唯一的论据,因为您不能有其他人。 但是我同意,我观察到最近20年来,联合的西方变成了狗屎,我在许多其他西方原住民中公开声明了这一点。 因此,您认为“贬义”实际上是在指出事实。

    他似乎是个armchair废的俄罗斯民族主义者!

    首先,我绝对是扶手椅,我不断强调这一点。 然而,我不是俄罗斯的“民族主义者”,但无论如何你都不会知道其中的区别。 我的问题是为什么颓废? 这很痛苦,伙计,我一直认为自己是具有最普通特征的中庸异性白人男性,而现在——我颓废了! 残暴;)))

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  141. Cyrano 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    我要和你分享我很久以前在某处读到的一些东西。 它给我留下了深刻的印象。 就像这样:

    如果你真的想拥有某人——让他们做你想做的任何事——你必须让他们相信你拥有他们迫切想要的东西。 如果你能让他们相信你拥有他们想要的珍贵的东西,或者你可以为他们得到它——他们会为你做任何事情。

    这就是发生在你身上的事情——乌克兰人。 您开始相信美国是您想要的东西,而不是俄罗斯,并且他们愿意给您。 在多个层面上完全错误,但您仍然被吸毒者的信念所震撼。

    • 哈哈: Mr. Hack
  142. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    我并不真正了解您(因为您并不真正了解我),我们只能从我们在这些博客网站上读到的玩笑中形成对彼此的看法。 但是,在阅读了您在Karlin博客上的一些讨论之后,我的确给人以独特的印象,即您对前苏联怀有非常怀旧的感觉。 现在,我不知道给你贴上“sovok”的标签是否合适,但也许你喜欢这些类型的属性? 不管怎样,回到过去(我相信你记得) 任何人 住在西方或提倡西方生活方式的人会自动被贴上“颓废的西方人”的标签。 好吧,也许现在你,在西方生活了 25 年之后,没有迫切需要搬回“罗迪纳”的地方也屈服于这个命名法? 🙂

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
  143. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    党的宣传说的和人们相信的有很大的不同。 即使是相当聪明的西方人,也可能还要再过 10 年才能像聪明的苏联人对待共产主义宣传那样对待他们的 Lugenpresse。 这几年的发展是显而易见的,也是令人鼓舞的,但是你们要达到这种智力水平还有很长的路要走。

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  144. Bronek [又名“布鲁诺”] 说:
    @John Taylor

    你是对的。 这篇文章包含过多的双重讨论。 实际上,中国已经吞噬了西藏,而且(2)无需占领其他社区,因为华裔具有很大的影响力。 没有指出的一点是百年中国人的心理; 主要是,时间是他们的一方。 因此,目前没有必要正式拥有亚洲的俄罗斯部分,而不是在这个日期。 然而,也许一百年后它可以被拥有。 中国人非常以民族为中心。 感谢您的出色观察。

  145. Mr. Hack 说:
    @AnonFromTN

    党的宣传说的和人们相信的有很大的不同。

    我怀疑 Maartynov 在他生命中那个时候购买了派对给他的任何东西......

  146. @Mr. Hack

    我怀疑 Maartynov 在他生命中那个时候购买了派对给他的任何东西......

    当然。 您会看到–您正试图通过讨论我的角色来避免讨论与乌克兰有关的任何事情。 这本书中最简单的把戏。 但是,即使考虑到我是跨性别,多种族的犹太人,嫁给了山羊,侏儒,它仍然没有改变乌克兰“独立”的结果,乌克兰的“独立”使它变成了第三国,出口最可行的地方乌克兰是奴隶制工人大军,其中包括仇恨俄罗斯的妓女,并且妓女遍布俄罗斯和欧洲城市的主要大街。 乌克兰是一名经过认证的精神避难所,由患者经营。 但是,出于某种原因,是我在您的宇宙中心。 那么,对于乌克兰现在已成为欧盟的二手避孕套,有何看法?

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  147. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    不知道他的情况。 我们什么都不相信,即使是真实的部分。 正如俄罗斯笑话现在所说,“他们在社会主义问题上对我们撒谎,但结果证明他们对资本主义所说的一切都是完全正确的”。 当时我无法想象,但现在我知道,与今天的西方 MSM 相比,共产党控制的苏联媒体非常诚实。 他们不报道某些事情,对他们报道的事情进行自圆其说,但他们从不进行赤裸裸的谎言,奥美同志式的,现在占西方“新闻”的一半以上。 Lugenpresse 是一种国际现象,完美地描述了所有 MSM,无论是否印刷。 如果有的话,电视甚至比报纸更撒谎(可能是因为更多的羊从电视而不是从报纸上获得“新闻”)。

  148. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    老实说,俄罗斯真的只是乌克兰的一个更大的版本。 真正让他们与众不同的只有两个区别:1) 统治这个国家的乌克兰小丑每 5 到 10 年更换一次,而你的小丑现在保持了近 25 年。 2) 俄罗斯的石油经济作为其经济支柱的时间与普京在位的时间一样长,但美国最近在这方面大放异彩。 俄罗斯经济处于低迷状态,预计将以5%(GDP)的速度增长并以年终收尾。 汽车,计算机,电话,电视,洗衣机,手动工具,窗户,音响系统,炊具,打印机等在哪里; 等等; 俄罗斯需要为全球市场竞争而成功吗? 看不到任何地方,世界其他地方,尤其是中国,对俄罗斯的落后地位肯定不满意。 现在没有理由回到俄罗斯,Martyanov,那里的情况开始变得黯淡。 🙁

  149. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Mr. Hack

    俄罗斯真的只是乌克兰的放大版

    曾经有一个笑话可以解释为什么亚洲的发展要比非洲快得多。 欧洲大学的两名毕业生(一个亚洲人,另一个非洲人)见面,亚洲人邀请非洲人来拜访他。 这家伙来了,看到了一座巨大的豪宅,周围有公园和喷泉。 他问:当你还是一个学生的时候,你没有两个便士可以擦在一起,这一切是从哪里来的? 亚洲人把他带到窗外。
    –看到那条高速公路吗?
    - 是的。
    – 10% 是我的。
    然后非洲人邀请亚洲人来拜访他。 亚洲人来了,看到了一个巨大的豪宅,周围有公园和喷泉。 他问:你当学生的时候也是一贫如洗,这都是从哪里来的? 非洲人把他带到一个窗口。
    –看到那条高速公路吗?
    - 不。
    – 100% 是我的。
    这完美地描述了俄罗斯和乌克兰腐败之间的区别。 所有其他差异都是其直接结果。

  150. @Mr. Hack

    老实说,俄罗斯真的只是乌克兰的一个更大的版本。

    哈哈! 尤其是乌克兰的太空计划、武装部队、基础设施、教育、科学、文化等等。

    现在没有理由回到俄罗斯,Martyanov,那里的情况开始变得黯淡。

    是的,明年再来。 太惨淡了……啊,谢谢你提醒我;))) 现在我正在拼命调整我的旅行计划。

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  151. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    谁说去那里度假? 我的意思是真实的——住在那里。 卡林似乎很喜欢它,并无意返回美国生活并成为一名扶手椅战士。 🙂

    哈哈! 尤其是乌克兰的太空计划、武装部队、基础设施、教育、科学、文化等等。

    是的,整个 90 年 2014 年代能源繁荣的利润为俄罗斯买了很多好东西,当时它被称为“世界加油站”。 但是现在,每桶石油的价格已经稳定了怎么办? 当俄罗斯寡头开始自食其力,尤其是在沙皇不再之后?

  152. 去年我在巴尔的摩呆了几个星期。 我确实无法想象,为什么会有人想从基辅或敖德萨迁移到巴尔的摩或费城。 我遇到了一个这样做的人,他对此深表遗憾。 去布拉格,打扫酒店房间三个月,回到乌克兰,然后再闲逛三个。 这不是一种糟糕的生活方式。 一个曾经崇拜西班牙的班德拉女孩诚实而沮丧地报告说,现在西班牙确实有一半的人口似乎是非洲人。 与马德里相比,利沃夫看起来越来越好。 而且她非常愿意用俄语交谈,前提是你不要公开贬低她的班德拉恋物癖。 无论如何,她知道零历史。

    至于俄罗斯的烂摊子。 如果比较的是基辅,有一点可能不希望住在新西伯利亚。 俄罗斯表现不佳。 但同样真实的是,俄罗斯人并不关心迈丹。 他们不再像 1990 年代那样崇拜美国。

    但美国的可怕之处在于:乌克兰人知道他们的后Maidan 欧洲天堂介于马虎和狗屎之间。 居住在新西伯利亚的俄罗斯人充分意识到他们的城市是新西伯利亚。 但是很多美国人甚至那些住在费城和巴尔的摩的人都没有意识到他们的家乡是 PHILLY 和 BALTIMORE,正如 2019 年所表现的那样。这就是真正让我害怕的心理特征——在你的鼻子底下挡住现实的倾向.

    看来您包括Hack先生。 您的舒适区是1982年? 而且,您一定会舍弃它。

    • 回复: @Mr. Hack
  153. Mr. Hack 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    不,80 年代是我们今天演变成的地狱的开始,自满而无聊。 今天的人们比以往任何时候都更加疯狂。 我回到过去,感觉更多的是看书、看黑白电影。 甚至听从 XNUMX 年代到 XNUMX 年代中期的爵士乐(当时我还太年轻,无法欣赏音乐或氛围)。 并不是说我真的以丑陋的面目将现代性拒之门外,只是我想把它逃避回一个更文明的时代(至少在美国)......

  154. Well I do appreciate it that you took no offense, sir. 1980s is what I remembered of USA, fondly, with layers of boyish angst peeled away. I think the late Mr. Gore Vidal would not disagree? People can argue about Bandera or China or Theresa May, but as Mr. Putin said recently at G20 — Liberal Globalism is passe and smells pretty bad —- something to that effect. Yes you can even argue whether Mr. Putin is an unsavory character or an reincarnation of Peter the Great — the main point is: this awareness, or lack thereof, is the main dividing line. You either got the message, but can’t let go of remnants of passé Cold War anti-Russianism, anti-Americanism, anti-White racism, or anti-sodomy male chauvinism —- doesn’t matter—- on the main, you got the message. Or you haven’t yet —- and if you haven’t, chances are you continue to talk out of your asses to your future elites from your podium at Harvard University and contribute columns to NY Times or Economist of the Atlantic, on your \$400,000 a year Harvard salary. Well, it does look as though you are NOT of the second category, or plan to vote for Joe Biden, well and good. I have come across 35 years old American Ivy League female “intellectual” who urgently exhort everyone to unwaveringly resolve to vote for Joe Biden.

    • 回复: @AnonFromTN
    , @Cyrano
  155. Mr. Hack 说:

    首先你写:

    看来您包括Hack先生。 您的舒适区是1982年? 而且,您一定会舍弃它。

    不知何故试图羞辱我。 然后你写下你自己在 1980 年代的倾向:

    我深深地怀念1980年代的美国,那层男孩气的焦虑被剥夺了。 我认为已故的戈尔·维达尔先生会不同意吗?

  156. AnonFromTN 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    好吧,也许乔拜登会和她擦鼻子,作为奖励。 他几乎无法有效地摩擦身体的任何其他部位。 民主党大多是可悲的自由主义者,很少有例外。 尤其是那些冒充知识分子的人。

  157. Cyrano 说:
    @Китайский дурак

    伙计,在美国没有“自由主义”。 都是虚假的,“进步的”和“自由的”是宣传的流行语。 他们必须表现为“自由”的唯一政策是移民。 在所有其他政策问题上,包括国内,更不用说外国,美国都是反动右翼国家。

    民主党或共和党 - 无所谓。 他们控制他们的深层国家是反动和右翼。 他们用混乱的移民来掩盖这个事实,所以人们不会向这些伟大的人文主义者要求更多的特权。

    为了使政策“自由”——它必须出自富人的腰包,造福穷人。 多元文化主义——恰恰相反。 它来自穷人的口袋,造福于富人。 这是右翼政策的定义。 每个人都是愚蠢的还是什么? 如果你不相信我,请阅读以下内容:

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/left

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    Saker entrevista AB Abrams sobre desenvolvimentosgeoestratégicosnaÁsia(https://choldraboldra.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-saker-entrevista-ab-abrams-sobre.html)

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