Beautiful and touching essay Ron. We ought to be better than those Knee-jerk (((Breitbartards))) and must realize that although publications like those can blow a lot of hot smoke, they don’t really have a nuanced view of things like your webzine does (through people of a wide variety of opinions publish articles putting their take for all to see).

Naturally, webzines like yours, with relatively intellectual people reading and commenting on it, are a much more serious threat to the powers that be. So have you considered about creating a backup of your TREMENDOUS archive?? And would it be possible to mirror it across different parts of the world lest things get, let’s say “interesting” in the US with a real crackdown on dissent?

Regarding your other article, it did generate furious debate and of course a lot of fruitful discussion punctuated by sometimes funny, sometime crass ad-hominem attacks but such is life and people. Nonetheless, what made the conversation charged was your refusal to back down from your stand on immigration in California which is way more nuanced than can be presented in a mere comment. Which just shows how principled you are as a man, a most redeeming quality that seems to be fading out fast!

Nonetheless please keep up the good work and may yours be a voice of reason and sanity, among the satanic insanity that seems to be have gripped the global elite. Their dark vision for the entire world is of a mongrelized monoculture of globo-homo, of barely human state approved bots parroting the politically correct state sponsored narrative. You are fighting the good fight. Whether we “win” or “lose” is secondary. What’s important is we tried and your webzine is indeed on the forefront of this effort! Kudos to you Mr. Unz!!

SOLUTION TO POLITICAL NET CENSORSHIP—STATE AND FEDERAL LEGISLATION.

Thanks for the article, Sir. I think the people who are doing the internet censoring are not ordinary silicon valley engineers—they are the bosses at the top, such as the Saudis who own twitter, the Judaists who own FAcebook and Google, who are rabidly anti-American and anti-white.

I am disappointed that the Republicans had control of both Houses and the White house in the last 2 years, but did not pass any law banning political censorship or political discrimination on the internet.

I think the states should now take a lead. States should pass a law banning political discrimination by internet companies and payment processors by explicit legislation or declaring them as public utilities, etc.

Ban a website for political speech (exc violence/porno)—1 million dollar fine per day.

Every states in the US can pass this law.

But even if ONE state only passes such a law, this problem will be solved, as it can acquire long arm jurisdiction over the entire company in the entire US, under the full faith and credit clause. People will flock to that state to sue Twitter, Paypal, Google, Facebook for banning them.

On the other hand, the idea that all American wars are evil and wrong, that off-shoring is wrong, that reindustrialization is good, why these are true.

I tend to agree with Peter Thiel’s characterization that politics in Silicon Valley is driven by fashion.

In my view, Mark Zuckerberg’s support of Dreams, Black Lives Matter, Criminal Justice Reform and Marc Benioff’s threatening to pull Salesforce out of Indiana over Mike Pence’s ‘religious freedom’ bill indicate that tech leaders like socially (not economically) progressive ideas that are fashionable among elites. At some point, the tech leaders are tempted to purge to show solidarity with the fashionable views.

At this stage, I’m really not sure that any of you can do anything

This denouement really leaves much to be desired.

I was expecting a punch-line, maybe a “try this one neat trick” lobbed at the reader.

Very little has happened in the last fifteen months [i.e., Aug. 2017 to Dec. 2018] that would cause me to reconsider any of my views.

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To try to pull out some implied advice:

when people notice that many of the things your organizations are saying are absolutely 100% contrary to what they actually see in their ordinary lives, they quickly conclude that you’re just as crazy as your critics in the MSM always say you are

Alt-Right people are always talking about the horrific future consequences of white Europeans becoming a minority

I don’t see the mainline Alt-Right (to coin a term) talking like this (i.e., ranting about “horrific” consequences of a less-White America). The implied advice, anyway, seems to be to avoid rhetorical excesses. Sound advice, in theory.

certain other “alt-right”-type issues have very little daily resonance in Silicon Valley

Dr. Greg Johnson, long himself resident in the Bay Area, is an example of an Alt-Righter who consciously makes appeals to Silicon Valley types and similar types nationwide.

Glad you said it. It’s the colour problem. In black communities that were or are not exposed to images of violence and rap music, violent crime is a rarity. The two together are a trigger to violent random events, usually not the slightest political. Sharia law threat to the West is a nonsense. Might even be a good thing if the Western world adopted Islam. Bill Cosby said, the best behaved black community in America were the black Moslems. Pity he wasn’t one himself.

Substantially, I agree with most of what you say. The issue is what to do about it.

More or less at random, the following thoughts come to mind.

First, those of us who engage in thought crime of whatever form need an alternative web that is at least more difficult to shut down. As long as we’re at the mercy of mainstream censors, we’ll never get anywhere.

Meantime, the issue is whether to appease or outrage. This always poses a quandary; I see it a lot in my own area of especial concern: Israel. Do you carefully assure everyone you agree Israel has a right to exist, dutifully decry ‘terrorism,’ avoid ever referring to ‘Jews,’ etc — and work yourself into a position of total impotence?

Or do you rage about the disproportionate power, influence, and privilege of Jews, denounce Israel as essentially a Nazi state, argue that any measures against it are justified, and so on — and find yourself off in a corner with twelve other ‘anti-semites’, banned by all?

This is a general problem. To take the path of moderation, and remain ‘legitimate’ at the risk if becoming innocuous — or call a spade a spade at the risk of being completely marginalized?

Finally, which causes? Take Holocaust Denial. I happen to be convinced that the Holocaust happened substantially as advertised, but others aren’t.

Well, speaking for myself, they’re free to argue their case. They can knock themselves out. As far as I’m concerned, it’s like faith in Jesus, or belief in Kennedy assassination plots, or any one of a dozen such convictions I just don’t share. Have at it, though. It’s like golf. Of no interest to me, but don’t let me spoil your fun.

The problem I see is that in plugging Holocaust denial in particular, one immediately marginalizes both oneself and anyone one is associated with. Unz Review can have twelve interesting ideas that might actually gain traction with the casual visitor — but if Holocaust Denial is at the top of the page, he’ll move hastily on.

It’s like Obama birtherism, or 9/11 having all been staged, or any one of several such beliefs. It’s an immediate red flag that triggers a ‘shake your head and move on’ response from most people.

Again, I’m not sure what to do about that. There’s little point in decrying mainstream censorship if we’re just going to muzzle ourselves. On the other hand…

Well, that’s about it for now. Unz’s points are thought-provoking.

Math is a universal language and the personality of those who are good at it is, in the great ocean of human variation, a near-uniform personality. In Silicon Valley, it doesn’t matter if only 1 in 1,000 blacks can program, it only matters that many of those who can, live there. But if Silicon Valley people are this easily deluded about how the other 99.9% of humanity works, their power needs to be vastly reduced. Hence the movement to break up Big Tech.

At this stage, I’m really not sure that any of you can do anything, and anyway maybe the newly Neoconized Trump administration will get us all into some crazy nuclear war with Russia or China or both, rendering this whole website situation completely moot

Looking to all that from the Russian side I think yes, Trump administration will get us there and there is nobody but Americans can do spmething about it.
But they won’t – too buzy with alt-rights and LGBT issues, poor things.

there hasn’t been the slightest talk of doing anything to the various monuments or towns honoring various figures from the Mexican-American War or the annexation of California

You seem unfamiliar with the radical La Raza groups (despite what they write on their website) and the “Reconquista” movement. Here’s a video from Costa Mesa about “Making America Mexican Again”.

Not sure how you can be so wrong on this …..

What’s the angle here Unz? What do you think are the major issues that concern people on the altright?

Even if Latin Americans and muslims are A+ people that don’t commit more crime than average white Americans it doesn’t mean that we want or should want to be replaced by them in our communities.

The opinion of tech titans and average tech employees is unimportant because they aren’t making the decisions. They are being bullied by the DoJ, ADL, and the press into censoring inconvenient opinions, not because they are untrue but because they interfere with the agenda.

Some on the Alt Right do raise alarm about Brown Violence, but ‘Latino’ crime isn’t their main worry. They believe that, even if all browns are good people, the demographic transformation will profoundly alter the national character of America. Also, even if most browns are rather nice and make okay neighbors, they supply votes for the globalist elites who, ensconced in power, wage more wars abroad, promote cultural decadence as the New Normal, and push economic policies that concentrate more power at the top. The effect of immigration in CA has been a one-party dictatorship with the biggest socio-economic inequalities and PC lunacy, especially when it comes to issues of ‘gender’.

After all, Alt Right doesn’t believe Asians are criminals or terrorists but opposes Asian immigration too because, again, Too Many Asians alter the national character of America. Also, given that Asians tend to be servile to the Existing Power and obsessed with status, they are likely to become the managerial class for globalism, like Francis Fukuyama, Amy Chua, Nikki Haley, John Yoo, Sarah Jeong, etc. The result will be Jewish globalists lording over Asian upper-middle class as commissars over the white masses.

Trump’s alarmist rhetoric about Mexican criminals and Muslim terrorists actually appealed more to Normie Conservatives. But then, Trump didn’t start this rhetoric. Hollywood has been making lots of movies featuring Muslims as terrorists. The SICARIO sequel begins with Muslims crossing the US-Mexican border and blowing up US shopping malls. In the 90s, the movie villains were usually South African ‘racists’ or Muslim Terrorists. And who can forget RULES OF ENGAGEMENT that is downright genocidal in its message toward Muslims over there. KILL THEM ALL. Even before 9/11, many white working class kids grew up watching Hollywood movies with evil Muslim villains. So, when they entered the military, they were more than happy to go over there and kill them ‘savages’.
While some in the Alt Right like to pass around the Muslim Terrorist and Mexican Gang meme, this is much more the feature of Alt Light and God-and-Country Conservatism. The anti-Muslim stuff is actually a way to gain sympathy from Jews(and homos), i.e. Jews and homos(and even feminists) should side with the Right because Liberals don’t care about Muslims who want to wipe Israel off the map, enslave women, and throw homos from roofs. Alt Right cares far less about this line of argument because it cares far less about forging alliance with Jews, homos, and feminists. Alt Right’s position on Israel is ‘none of our business’. Some in the Alt Right cheer for Palestinians just to ‘return the favor’. Also, Alt Right believes that Jewish power and influence in US and EU are so baleful that alliance is near-impossible. And Alt Right thinks feminism is terrible and rejects the homo agenda. It is the Alt Light and ‘cuck’ Right that go for the “Liberals are the true anti-Semites, Homophobes, and misogynists because they don’t condemn Muslims” polemic.

First Let me thank you, your work is very effective and designed to increase its effectiveness over time. That you are a liberal and a jew and a 1% etc makes it all the more remarkable because you are in fact helping reactionaries conservatives nazis ethnats etc. Granted many of us were also once 1% liberalish cuckservtivish so theres that. You seem to have the same sort of soft spot for hispanics that i have for jews. Growing up in NYC one learns youre right hispanics are not nearly as dangerous as blacks, and even when they are they are not very big or smart, and yes they have a sort of charm. In a place like NYC you get to know all the races of the world and each has a charm and its downsides, in fact you get your own race reflected back at you in a place like NYC which gives one a certain humility. Wolf wasnt the first or last to portray the Irish in a way we recognixed.

But regarding hispanics and jews i think we both miss a point.In the case of jews for instance i had to struggle against this red pilling on the JQ as we say,I like jews Im from an arty intellectual NYC family half of our friends are jews sure I grew up in the 60s listening to jews brag at cocktail parties about how they had been in on the early days of western deconstruction, i watched the front lines of the 60 mostly jewish radicals really start to burn down the west and i observed their mostly jewish directed march through the smouldering ruins of our institutions in the 80s and 90s. I was one of those oddball kids that though a long haired rebel in many ways i became a conservative in my teens. So while i certainly understood how deeply the jews were responsible for the march of leftism i never really held it against them, in fact like my whole generation I really had a very difficult time holding anything against a race no matter what they did, we sought explanations, blacks were destroyed by welfare and early southern racism, jews were only being defensive because hitler. The main thing was there was a sense we could afford this sort of bad behavior, after all NYC was one of the only places that had “other ” people. No one really realized what the 64 immigration bill was really doing, city people assumed it was just more of the stuff that had happened since the 1700s and the suburban and rural areas were isolated pre internet so they each thought of themselves as an anomaly the flooding continued for decades before the internet allowed us to compare notes and realize we had bee transformed without our consent.

My feeling is that while there are lots of elites who are actually hostile to Whites and proles, most are naïve and well meaning. As Ron points out, for a lot of these people, their own contact with Africans, Asians, Hispanics and Moslems is with educated and sophisticated people who bring exotic food and culture.

What they don’t see, and can’t possibly imagine because they don’t feel it themselves, is that often even among this elite is a lot of rage and envy directed at Whites and western culture. I travel among the same circle of people and under the veneer of civility lies an intense hostility and sense of rivalry towards dominant and/or competing groups.

And what everyone else is stuck with is not the educated elite but the lower class of that foreign group. It’s one thing to have a few nice Indian restaurants in town, quite another to have an entirely (formerly White) Bangladeshi neighbourhood filled with ignorant, hyper religious idiots who see the host nation, and its people, as something to be exploited and shat upon.

Alt-Right people are always talking about the horrific future consequences of white Europeans becoming a minority, but they already became a minority decades ago in Silicon Valley, and these days are probably down to around 30% or so. Yet everything is perfectly fine here

Would you go further and argue that the entire United States would be ‘perfectly fine’ with whites at 30 per cent, bearing in mind that most of the remaining 70 per cent would hail from Third World countries which fall some way short of ‘perfectly fine’?

So these Siliconites are just useful idiots? Useful for sure, but they can’t all be brainwashed idiots, and know exactly what they are doing as they trample on free speech. I’d posit any blind spots they may have are more related to their paychecks than any thoughtful analysis of their actions.

I’ve lived in Palo Alto, and it is a bubble. People living in bubbles generally can’t see outside them. No longer having employment that can sustain living in the bubble, I had to retreat to far away. My perspective is considerably different, although not alt-right. The difference is that the folks in the bubble have enormous political influence due to the control of communications technology and their vast wealth, as well as considerable hubris about their right to control discourse. There’s a sense among them that an enlightened oligarchy of meritocracy sanctioned by the success of wealth is superior to a populist rabble, that is, democracy. Or if there is a belief in democracy, it is that their own enclave, like the wider American belief in the right to rule the globe from its own democracy, has veto rights over any wider populism of “deplorables” that doesn’t share their own consensus.

There’s no answer to this, except to create alternatives to what these elites control. It might take some sort of antitrust activity to prevent great wealth pre-empting viable alternatives.

A key thing to note, is that the ‘alt-right’ etc does not really help itself all that much by pulling punches and ‘being moderate’

In part because the Powers That Be intentionally promote extremist crazy-sounding versions of some perspectives, to set up ‘straw men’, a technique the intel agency propagandists call ‘poisoning the well’

For example, look at some of the internet-popular alternative websites which generate a huuge amount of revenues – Jeff Rense, David Icke, Veterans Today … all 3 websites have troves of valuable, often unique articles, revealing genuine truth about all sorts of scandals and crimes

And on all 3 sites, these articles are right next to pieces about space aliens from other planets amongst us, shape-shifting lizards etc

This is by design and on purpose … CIA-Google promotes such sites, specifically for this reason … Want info on Scandal X? Well at top of search is that scandal info, on a site right next to space-alien lore … so the true stuff is ‘self-discredited’

Gordon Duff of Veterans Today – chuckling as he calls himself a ‘self-hating Jew’ – has flipped this idea in reverse, admitting in a radio interview that some 30% of what is on his site is totally not true … he says that, this is what allows him to print the true material, without being murdered, by the US gov he still claims to serve in a few capacities

It is sometimes suggested that the reason Andrew Anglin’s ‘neon-Nazi’ Daily Stormer gets so much free media – helping it to recover to 4 million viewers a month despite all the rolling censoring shutdowns – is precisely because of its role as being an ‘extreme’ version of alt-right themes, a perpetual ‘straw man’ … Ironically, Anglin’s main partner, site IT whiz Andrew Auernheimer aka Weev, was said by his mom to be Jewish, tho Weev says this is ‘Elizabeth Warren tier’

Jewish Harvard Law prof & internet deception maven Cass Sunstein, openly advocates CIA-run web-trolling, in partnership with CIA-Google controlling internet search … and also the CIA’s Wikipedia, run by ex-pornographer and personal friend of Israeli Presidents, Jimmy Wales … Google and Wiki work to see to it that ‘reasonable’ websites are kept in the shade if not toe-ing the party line

Ron Unz is to be congratulated for getting Unz to where it is today … but the Powers That Be do recognise that getting the rebel intellectuals corralled, and being able to read and share a little, is useful for the moment

Do a shot of tequila every time Unz says “I’m quite busy with my software work, and really didn’t have time to write this” and you’ll be over the legal limit in no time.

But if Silicon Valley people are this easily deluded about how the other 99.9% of humanity works, their power needs to be vastly reduced

Bravo.

Did the Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority consent to being murdered by Hindu “American” Sundar Pinchai?

I reject the Euthanasia option…..resistance is not futile…I won’t be the Hindu “American’s” bitch…

The issue is what to do about it.

It’s a really difficult question, but probably any positive change is going to start locally, and deal with individuals. When US society starts to sort itself out (organize itself at county level?) it can embark on creating ground-up political systems that serve the public rather than the plutocracy.

It’s still a complicated procedure. In the military, when dealing with hopeless disintegrating units, at least they have a chain of command and a mission. An effective leader can impose discipline, starting with a few basic things like “wear your helmet”, “clean and carry your rifle at all times”, “carry your ammunition right “etc. and gradually build up from there.

Under a democracy (especially the US variety) it’s a lot more difficult. Democracy is a one way street. When it works correctly it’s fine, but it’s open to the special interest corruption of representatives, and the fatal laziness of the public. When it fails (as the US variant more or less has) it can’t be reconstructed at the national level – since Special Interests have an entirely different mission (feed themselves), and use their MSM and the administration power to form a set of interlocking plates to protect themselves and keep out outsiders.

The possibilities I see are 1) a local, low level political movement, as far away from Washington as possible, taking back local affairs (and taxation) i.e. a US Federation, or 2) a military coup run by US nationalists that shuts down New York, DC and Hollywood or 3) a shooting civil war or 4) a world (nuclear) war.

1) Would clearly be preferable, but who would provide the leadership? And while they organize, can they simultaneously face off Washington? What kind of local organization would shake individual Americans out of their stupor and get them to be politically active and change their lives?

2) Unlikely, since the top military are thoroughly vetted and integrated into the Empire. Also, should it happen, the US would receive a new and unpredictable dictatorial elite for Special Interests to get to work on.

3) Quite possible since the US is loaded with firearms, and the armed forces would probably show split loyalties (be reluctant to destroy American cities). At the end of it, the US would lie in ruins.

4) More likely than it appears since the US is being highly provocative towards Russia, and backing them into a corner with regard to nuclear treaties, placement of short range nuclear weapons etc. (now also starting with China). This wouldn’t take more than a few days and would be TEOWAKI (The End Of The World As We Know It) given the power of modern nuclear weapons. The US could end up a depopulated and irrelevant wasteland.

Of course there is still the last (and most likely), “do nothing” option, whereby the US continues its slide into a Zio-Glob dictatorship of the traditional kind with a controlled population, censorship, secret police, detention camps, across the board SJW indoctrination, media propaganda and an elite Nomenklatura.

“Alt-Right people are always talking about the horrific future consequences of white Europeans becoming a minority, but they already became a minority decades ago in Silicon Valley, and these days are probably down to around 30% or so. Yet everything is perfectly fine here.”

LMAO. This is the place where they monopolise communications and ban anyone who criticises the anti-white zeitgeist?

The White Liberal Greedy Cheating Class White Liberal Oligarchs of Silicon Valley…Jack Dorsey…Eric Schmidt…..Jeff Bezos….openly call for GENOCIDAL RACE-REPLACEMENT MURDER of The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority…..

The Hindu “American” Oligarchs of Silicon Valley openly call for the GENOCIDAL DEMOGRAPHIC MURDER of The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority….

Battery Acid Time can’t be too far away…..When the White Working Class revolts against this revolting scum……

I think the states should now take a lead. States should pass a law banning political discrimination by internet companies and payment processors by explicit legislation or declaring them as public utilities, etc.

Wake up man. They are passing laws, anti-BDS laws, that are totally against free speech, my state Georgia has one, Texas has one, many Democrat states have one, and they’re not done yet, they want to take it further, Israel demands your loyalty. Loyalty to a hostile foreign government, and the puppets in State and Federal govt. are more than happy to sell out their own nation and interests to give it to them.
Good luck getting any of these puppets to protect free speech or any freedom for that matter, they’re all corrupt as hell.
Sad!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/feinstein-sanders-urge-senate-not-to-include-anti-bds-law-in-spending-bill/

Now, what exactly did the WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICAN MEN

fight for …and die for during WW2?..To be taunted by the Hindu Foreigner Sundar Pinchai?

I’d rather see California nuked and poisoned for centuries before the Hindus can lay claim to it…and America as a whole……The Native Born White American Working Class can burn America down……

It will take violent class warfare and violent race warfare…..The basement of America is full to the brim with gasoline…the pouring started in 1965….

What would the Han People in China do if only one elite Chinese Engineering University was colonized completely by the Hindus from India?….It would be over in a week….

What software are you working on, Unz?

There is I think one way out, Jews must become White. They must immediately put all the effort they have put into deconstructing the European project into building White ethno states and in the process erase themselves as culturally and genetically distinct…

Zero chance of this happening.

The US and European national states will only be rebuilt when the ethnic leadership is first defined (i.e. who the house belongs to) by US Anglos and ethnic European nationalists. They can then decide who will be invited in on the basis of being either a guest or a worker, with all rights (if they pay taxes) other than nationality or political rights.

Simply extend anti-discrimination laws to include political ideology. In principle, I’m against government regulation of the Internet. But as long as the left has legal protection in place for its favored minorities, we need to extend that protection to the right.

Not sure if he has publicly declared his position one way or the other, but does anyone know where Ron Unz stands on the status of the Jewish-state – i.e. is he for that particular state having the right to remain an ethnostate or against it?

It’d be nice to see if his views align with his support for mass immigration (both legal and illegal) for America.

When I was active in the Libertarian Party, there were self-appointed pundits who kept saying we had to be “moderate” and avoid the appearance of radicalism. That got us nowhere. Even the overly cooperative LP gets denounced as “racist” and “fascist” these days. (Disclaimer: I’ve since renounced the beltway-centric party’s “open borders” rhetoric, so don’t dis me on that.) There’s something to be said for “in your face” radicalism. It’s what got Trump elected.

Yes! I appreciate Ron’s dedication to free speech, but the Holocaust denial thing does have a nasty taste to it. It’s a lot like Vox Day’s provocative inclusion of the notorious “Fourteen Words” in the Alt-Right manifesto — principled, but the wrong hill to die on, in my opinion. I’m OK with Ron providing denialist source material, but I’d recommend balancing it out with marginalized works on other Holocausts, such as the Armenian genocide and the Holodomor. The radical Zionists hate sharing their victim card almost as much as they hate having it denied.

You might look at the work of Victor Davis Hanson who lives in the Central Valley and paints a much different picture of the deleterious effects of Mexican immigration. Is it possible that those in Silicon Valley are insulated from the downsides of unbridled immigration since the illegals cannot afford to live in their neighborhoods? One thing you did not mention is the fact that the Hispanic demographic change has turned California into a one party state. The long term consequences of the Democrats and public Unions having complete political hegemony are not good and anyone who dismisses the public pension fiasco that is unfolding in California is whistling past the graveyard. I am a European origin Hispanic immigrant (Cuban) and I see the rising tide of immigration as the end of the Golden Age of the USA. Increased immigration will lead to a polyglot society where people vote according to ethnic lines and the spoils are given out accordingly. If you are a white male your future in corporate America is not bright. You have ignored the role that Jewish intelligentsia played in this. The 1965 Immigration Act was orchestrated by Jews (Emmanuel Cellar, Jacob Javitts, Norbert Schlei) because Jews feel more comfortable in a polyglot society and have a certain antipathy to white Christians.

Isn’t San Francisco removing – if they haven’t by now – the Pioneer Statue outside the Civic Center?

Also I recall reading about a statue of William McKinley in Arcata(!) getting Talibanned.

(1) This is a strawman. No one has constructed an entire case on the assertion that ‘Hispanic’ crime rates are x% higher than non-Hispanic crime rates (anyway, they are certainly higher than a “White, Vermont” baseline ideal to which the USA was once not far off).

(2) There are many good ‘Hispanics’ just as there are many good Blacks, but in population terms they are a liability to a (post-)industrial White, Northwest-European-derived society. Our society becomes racially incoherent, culturally Latin Americanized.

(3) The term we should be using is “Mestizos,” which may never catch on. A population with a substantial share of Amerindian ancestry will be a liability; true, non-euphemistic ‘White Hispanics’ much less so. The problem with the latter is they “go Vicente Fox” and become vectors of the Mestizo colonial enterprise in the USA.

(4) Does anyone actually want a scenario by which there are more K-to-12-age Mestizos resident in the USA than White ethnic-core Americans (Northwest European), on target for circa the 2040s? Even if their crime rates were half those of the “White, Vermont baseline”?

Silocon Valley has implemented a de facto Native Born White Working Class Male Exclusion Act…..

Time bring back the 1882 Han People Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act!!!!

To mainland China….FUCK YOU…FUCK YOU…CALIFORNIA IS NOT FOR HAN CHINESE COLONIZATION…..WE WILL NOT BE YOUR BITCH…OR THE STREET SHITTERS FROM INDIA BITCH EITHER and if you want to settle this with thermonuclear war….a ok with me…

The Han People Colonization of California….This is what you get with Jared Taylor’s IQ Test Score Nationalism….

I was alt-right before there was an alt-right. Basically the alt-right was created by less-crazy whites, like myself, entering the WN around the time (before and after) I came onto the scene in 2002-3 (I don’t want to try to date it more precisely because the fact is, I just don’t know). We brought in a less antisocial sensibility, more tech savvy, etc. And we were fighting constantly with the “old school” “purist” “hard core” types about optics, purity-spiraling, subculture (LARPing) vs. true dissident politics, etc. And we largely won.

But, and this is a big but, instead of WN 2.0 replacing WN 1.0, there was a synthesis that resulted in the Alt-right; WN 3.0, if you will. Basically, instead of deleting the hard, psycho edge of WN 1.0, the alt-right played it for laughs/shitpoasting. I have to admit that it has proven much more successful with the youth than the drier kind of thoughtful WNism that I was advocating back then.

And that’s the problem I have with Ron’s basic “you people sound like psychos” message; shitpoasting has proven very successful. Rebellion sells. WNism has grown dramatically since I joined right after 9/11. I’ve always been an advocate of multiple styles, so I’m certainly not saying the shitpoasting style is the One True Way. I’m sure there’s an optimum style for reaching the Silicon Valley intelligentsia. But shitpoasting has proven quite successful so far. It isn’t going anywhere.

The Regime, the Judenreich, globo-homo-gayplex, doesn’t deserve respect, doesn’t inspire decorum. Let’s all try to keep that in mind.

If Silicon Valley mopes want well-thought-out WNism, they can certainly find it online. There are plenty of print journals, featuring reams of content. There are plenty of podcasts like The Daily Shoah that have plenty of big-brained nibba explication. Shitty, policed social media isn’t the place for that. It’s a place to quickly tweet/shitpoast your disatisfaction with globo-homo-gayplex and signal to the Masters of the Universe that they have a serious and growing problem to deal with.

Simply put, the regime sound like a bunch of faggots and shitpoasting draws healthy-minded kids in like flies to honey.

Umm, for everyone who understands Ron as saying its merely a question of ‘rhetoric’, what he is actually saying is that it is a question of facts – and the alt right is not in possession of them on certain major issues that are directly perceivable by people in Silicon Valley.

The alt right doesn’t need to pull its punches – it needs to get its facts straight.

This interesting entry by Ron has cleared up certain confusions I’ve had about his overall long term agenda and strategy – its more intelligent than I thought.

But I think he misunderstands the alt right. And I also think he takes them too seriously.

I doubt the actions of Silicon Valley execs have anything to do with careful analysis of the media and what they see. It is just knee-jerk good think like the firing of James Damore and the memos and e-mails sneaking out of meetings where censorship of the right is being discussed by 25 year old kids who couldn’t find their asses with both hands.

As usual, Mr. Unz, an insightful analysis. I’d just add one thing. The point you make about Silicon Valley applies generally to any area where the USA’s better off and more powerful citizens live, e.g., the so called new class and all other upper-middle class people. These folks are completely insulated from the usual reality of living in areas that are not overwhelmingly White. Any non-White, non native-born folks in their vicinity are either exceptionally high-functioning and functional or “the help”. People in these upper-middle and upper class enclaves are clueless and want to remain so. By the time they catch on it will be too late. Awareness of this situation fuels the desperation of the alt-right to get its message across. Unfortunately that desperation leads to the strategic and tactical errors that you discuss.

Mr. Unz is a grouper swimming with sharks. He thinks “Hey, we are all fish, aren’t we? Can’t we all just get along? Yuo sardines (alt-right types) just need to be a little less stinky. Then these other fish will get along with you.” Maybe he is right. More likely is that he is nice, smart, and clueless. He simply does not see what is going on. Like way too many well-meaning types. If he is wrong on the National Question (as defined by Peter Brimelo), as I am pretty sure he is, he and his children will find out the hard way, and too late.

The Mexicanization of California coincides nicely with the steep decline in the quality of life here for the average American (certainly not for Silicon Valley magnates). One could be forgiven for believing that there is more than a coincidence at work here. Import Mexicans and you get Mexico, which is not a place most Americans would find congenial.

In 1882…

Denis Kearney

Samuel Gompers

Isidore Choyinski

had the right idea…

with regard to the Han Race…

1) Would clearly be preferable, but who would provide the leadership?

I have a vague memory that there were 2 or 3 guys in the days before Charlottesville who said it was a bad set up and they pulled out. Does anybody else remember that? It would not be a bad minimum qualification for such a role. The converse might also be useful. Anybody who was foolish enough to show up to Charlottesville is out.

Racism is a small factor. The anger is against mass immigration. If millions of poor, white, Ukrainians could flood into the US, the alt-right (aka working class Americans) would hate that too. Corporate American loves cheap, desperate labor that mass immigration provides. It hates higher minimum wages, so even in high-cost “liberal” California it will finally crawl up to just $12 in 2019, far below the inflation adjusted rate in the 1970s.

This is not enough for a full-time worker to afford a studio apartment in most of the state. High wage people can’t afford homes because prices are outrageous driven up by mass legal and illegal immigration. Low wage immigrants pack two or more families into a home to survive, but his overwhelms schools and parking and city services. Middle class workers cannot afford healthcare unless the employer pays most, unless they are poor and get free Medicaid, that is provided to poor legal immigrants too. Immigrants legally bring over elderly parents who are dumped on Medicare and Medicaid and corporate America profits. Liberal California doesn’t give a damn, because this one party state controlled by the rich just selected a former lobbyist as head of the state assembly.

Expressways are packed and homelessness grows. Residents of all races are angered at this population explosion but are told to shut up because they are racists! The problem is so bad that new immigrants openly call for abolishing ICE, a code word for open borders. Meanwhile, when hoards of immigrants march north to crash through the border because they think it’s their right, only President Trump tries to stop them, so he is called a racist. Native Americans (of all races) are angry, but if they express anger at this invasion, Corporate America deems them racist and bans their websites. Americans who think US citizens deserve priority over foreigners are deemed nationalists, and if they hold rallies, billionaire funded Nazi brown shirts dressed in black attack them while local police are instructed to stand down.

The chaos will worse when California state income tax receipts are tallied in April. The state gets over one-third its money by taxing high-income workers up to 13%, and with the stock market down that tax revenue will fall sharply just like in 2009. Citizens suggest that removing a millions foreigners here on work visas, and a couple million illegals will help by reducing traffic, housing costs, education costs, social services costs, and boost wages. This logic is undeniable, so corporate media responds that such talk is — RACIST!

Senior native California Victor Davis Hanson explains this well:

mark green for President.

Mestizo countries are probably the most violent and crime-ridden hellholes on the planet. Doubt you or Ron Unz would relish moving to live with the hoi polloi in Rio de Janeiro. You know what would be great? If the Fed gov was instead used a weapon against your type to settle a cross-section of Somalians in government-funded housing in your areas. See how well that goes for you.

That’s the thing, though. Ensconced in a bubble of the Silicon Shtetl, you don’t need to see nor care about any of this. You still have enough wealth to pretend things are great by paying a premium to not live near the overwhelming majority of these non-Europeans and hey, maybe even some of the blacks and browns you live around are the talented 0.1% so aren’t misery to be around. Great for you. The reality of course is a lot different for the white masses. Ron Unz lives in a highly segregated area where alien elites (mostly east Asian and Brahmin Indians) still tolerate whites but will move to get rid of them and give nepotistic gigs to Sundar Pichai’s retarded cousin Pajeet who can’t stop asking to show bobs and vegana as soon as possible, if it’s not already happening.

When whites are an absolute minority, we already know what we have to look forward to by looking at both South Africa today and what’s happening in our countries now. Increasing violence against us, more gradual dispossession, more anti-white race laws and policies, intensifying affirmative action, quotas, set-asides that use Orwellian terminology like “legacy majority” or “majority-minority” “race-conscious admissions) and whatever else they come up with to claim this state of affairs MUST continue indefinitely until the last white man has been murdered or made by the government deciding the winners and losers into an invisible loser unable to attract his own group’s women and then there are no more actual whites left, just as the jew writer Eric Kaufmann stated, a bunch of brown people who claim to be white and do a We Wuz The Founding Fathers, We Wuz Englishmen etc. mass of le 56% faces who “identify” with the people who actually created the now-decayed husk of a civilization.

Worse is to come down the pipe, though. The various forms of redistribution from white to non-white can’t continue apace indefinitely. So eventually those somewhat pacified Mestizos you think are so peaceful won’t be getting as much free stuff to keep them in these better-than-where-they-came-from conditions and then it’ll be just like any other central or south American shithole, except that the whites forced to live near them by the government deciding the winners and losers in life won’t even be able to raise a finger in self-defense, and will be constantly chased down by government policies to forcibly “diversify” everywhere we live.

I mean look at what’s happening now, lawfare-instituted struggle sessions in the courtroom because someone pointed out that this banana-in-a-noose thing was a hoax.

https://apnews.com/51b6ed10e4654426a2855a42ad58ba0d

Think things like this will get better or worse when we have less demographic power and worse than the no political representation we have now? The anti-white policies and rhetoric have been intensifying as we are ethnically cleansed, NOT softening. We have no reason to believe it will and if history is a barometer, every reason to believe it will reach violent genocide levels.

In any case EVEN if–and we know this isn’t true, but for the sake of argument–even if these people were all wonderful and it wasn’t just wealth transfer from us to them and dispossession into racial genocide, what do we get out of this? Even if they were 100% the same as us and everything carried on, except without us, why is ethnic cleansing a moral good and what do we even get out of this? We know they aren’t equal to us in ability and that things won’t carry on, obviously, but no one can explain how we and our descendants somehow benefit from any of this. Did we and our ancestors give our blood, sweat and tears and toil away to hand it away to ungrateful foreigners who hate our guts, want us dead and to take our stuff? Probably not.

Can’t wait for the water supply of Southern California to dry up…..where ever it comes from…

The Chinese and Hindus in California=LOCUST…

Sigh, too true. – ..…the needle and the damage done – a little part of it in everyone…or I think of – – – – Freud’s Death Drive (no specifically Jewish – rather a human thing – and a universal pubertarian thing as well: Let’s make friends with the romantic losers, This is the End – My Only Friend, the End, no Laughter no Surprise Again, This is The End – – – – This is The Eeeeee-ee-nd..). The biggest kick comes from the greatest taboos. Sigh, sigh. In the end – what matters is to be alive ‘n’ kickin’ though – let the dead bury their dead – to be alive means, to make mistakes (without our mistakes, there’d be no progress, and no need for redemption and transcendence, either – – – – – – – Merry Christmas!

Also, given that over the last decade illegal immigration has been such a tiny sliver of total immigration (which is the real problem), Trump and the Republicans ranting about illegal immigrant being “killers and rapists” just sounds totally nutty to anyone sensible living in California.

Sensible? Don’t you mean “decent,” Ron:

Most Californians view illegal immigrants as unwanted house guests. One very effective means of getting rid of such guests is to set your house on fire and burn it to the ground. This is Proposition 187′s solution to illegal immigration. It would be a financial and social disaster for California, and the worst moral disaster for our state since the internment of Japanese Americans. No decent Californian should support it.

https://www.unz.com/runz/against-prop-187/

For example, look at some of the internet-popular alternative websites which generate a huuge amount of revenues – Jeff Rense, David Icke, Veterans Today … all 3 websites have troves of valuable, often unique articles, revealing genuine truth about all sorts of scandals and crimes And on all 3 sites, these articles are right next to pieces about space aliens from other planets amongst us, shape-shifting lizards etc This is by design and on purpose

It seems that way. I call them sites with built-in strawmen.

The typical blogger is usually begging for money and hence probably pretty easy to influence, but some of the fancier high-traffic sites, including some of the ones you mentioned, look like carefully designed psy-ops.

Senator John F Kennedy was directly involved in “airlifting” Barack Obama Senior into 90 percent Native Born White America…with a 100,000 dollar educational grant…

You didn’t know this…did you……you god dam RETARD worshippers of JFK…

What do you JFK worshippers glue your JFK pinup boy posters to the wall with? What precious bodily fluids do you use?

This is why the Native Born White American Working Class was voted into a White Racial Foreigner and White Racial Minority within the borders of California….you can thank your pinup boy JFK for this….

Racism is a small factor.

I would say it was more a question of power. Multiethnic societies can get along fine if the question of political power is resolved.

For example, parts of Spain have societies that are 50% comprised of foreigners (North Africans, South Americans, British, French, Belgians, Scandinavians, Bulgarians, Rumanians, Russians etc.) who are working, and classed as “long-term foreign residents”. They pay taxes, get healthcare and schooling and have all rights apart from a passport and the right to vote. They live in more or less separate communities with little integration, but get along OK with few problems.

The key point seems to be that they don’t have political power (nationality or the vote) and don’t care about it, if they can work and send money back to their respective countries + get the schooling and healthcare. They accept that Spain is Spanish.

What friction there is, comes from wage competition (pushing wages down), but Spanish employers are the first to contract cheap immigrant labour (in for example in catering and construction), and they control the politics.

The reason why Silicon Valley does what is does has nothing to do with some analysis of what they believe are lies and facts. It has more to do with their placating their workforce which is predominantly college brainwashed and woke. Like in the Damore case, the employees threatened a temper tantrum and the execs had to give in. The company is held hostage by the beliefs of the workforce just the opposite of the days of manufacturing being king where the execs fired you for being too extreme in your leftist views.

Anyone else been limited to just one comment an hour?

But the problem that all of you face is that when people in Silicon Valley look around themselves, what they see reasonably matches the claims of the MSM

That’s because the (((MSM))) is not honest and most MSM types live in gated communities far away from the black and brown hellscapes they think are so good for non-elite whites. That’s because liberalism is easy to believe the less contact with reality one has. Silicon Valley is just a bubble. And because of it’s vast wealth, is an outlier and not reflective of most parts of America that has been forcibly diversified against their wishes.

while if they ever visit Breitbart, let alone any of your own Alt-Right websites, you mostly come across like a bunch of total lunatics.

Each side has their “lunatics” but if the luminaries of Silicon valley ever visited HuffPo, Daily Kos or even watched MSNBC the left would come across like a bunch of totally unhinged lunatics to any reasonable person. That they come to that conclusion only about our side means their worldview trends leftist and they were already biased against our message.

If Silicon Valley types think (((Tim Wise))), (((Rachel Maddow))), Morning Joe, and Don Lemon are the voices of truth and sanity then there’s little we can do to change their minds. Oriental Sarah Jeong said horrible things about white people yet she still has her Twitter account.

In some ways Ron’s comments are a justication of Silicon Valley’s war against right of center political dissent with pro-white overtones, or wrong thinking. This is very disappointing.

That we are witnessing an unprecedented intolerance for certain political creeds and viewpoints by the tech monopolies, usually under Jewish pressure, and tacitly supported by the federal government by their inaction and silence is the real issue.

The other issue is that we are two nations, perhaps more, and we can’t relate to each other or don’t talk each other’s language anymore. Silicon Valley looks at mostly white, flyover America not as fellow Americans, but as the great unwashed and a serious problem to be dealt with.

Finally, which causes? Take Holocaust Denial. I happen to be convinced that the Holocaust happened substantially as advertised, but others aren’t.

Well, speaking for myself, they’re free to argue their case. They can knock themselves out. As far as I’m concerned, it’s like faith in Jesus, or belief in Kennedy assassination plots, or any one of a dozen such convictions I just don’t share. Have at it, though. It’s like golf. Of no interest to me, but don’t let me spoil your fun.

Lol, this is a really bad comparison. Holocaust skepticism isn’t a belief – it’s the lack thereof. Santa Claus doesn’t exist until you disprove his existence; it’s the other way around. You’re actually the one with the faith-based belief.

The Shoah goes in the “faith in Jesus” and “belief in Kennedy assassination plot” column, not in the column with skepticism and agnosticism. You’ve got witch-hunters in your camp, sharing your beliefs, lol. The Shoah correlates even more closely with religion when you consider how it’s enforced by law throughout Europe, the way Christianity was, centuries ago, or the way Islam is in many places today.

What you’ve done in grouping agnosticism with Shoah-belief is to create status-quo and non-status-quo columns, or conformist and non-conformist columns, and then label them “rational” and “irrational,” which is just really shit-tier, for reasons that I hope are now obvious.

The problem I see is that in plugging Holocaust denial in particular, one immediately marginalizes both oneself and anyone one is associated with. Unz Review can have twelve interesting ideas that might actually gain traction with the casual visitor — but if Holocaust Denial is at the top of the page, he’ll move hastily on.

It’s the sort of high-risk, high-reward strategy that a minority of Jews have been pursuing for centuries, if not eons. If the roles were reversed, there’d be a vocal minority of Jews deconstructing the goyische Shoah narrative. Jews have never been as worried about being marginalized as they are about delineating the margins.

Anyone else been limited to just one comment an hour?

Yep.

How ’bout we limit anons to 1 comment per ever?

… they are the bosses at the top, such as the Saudis who own twitter…

Not quite.

Excerpt from This Saudi prince now owns more of Twitter than Jack Dorsey does:

I have some minor quibbles with Mr. Unz’s piece (there are indeed many Mexicans in West Virginia and their arrival coincides with the fentanyl epidemic according to a WVA woman I know) but my main point is that anti-Muslim, anti-Mexican, and even anti-black rhetoric is a “sublimation” of resentment of changes in society that are mostly the doing of Jews. Since it is too dangerous to criticize Jews there is a tendency to blame Muslims or other less powerful minorities e.g. only an already marginal commentator will raise the issue of a Jew complaining about a Christmas display but it’s acceptable to make a fuss about the rare Muslim who complains. After this habit gets ingrained people start to think that it really IS Muslims or Hindus who are responsible for ending the Christmas concert or banning CS Lewis books when it’s nearly always Jews.

You’re welcome. Can you now let me know what sort of joke this letter is given your previous articles? Really, I’m confused.

Ron Unz—Thank you very much indeed for replying. I am English and have lived in England nearly all my life. I spent a few days in America many moons ago, visiting Seattle and Oregon, so I have no personal knowledge of present-day America.

I was struck by the reduction you mention in interracial violence, which has gone hand-in-hand with a dramatic fall in the white population. In England, to the best of my knowledge, whites have always simply fled as non-whites have moved in, skipping the violent phase. What will happen when the English have nowhere left to flee to, time will tell.

From the point of view of interracial violence, then, things in California and beyond are perfectly fine. I suppose what I was really hinting at, though, are the long-term prospects for America remaining perfectly fine when it becomes a majority Third World territory, given that, to date, only Europeans have been able to build the European civilizations which the rest of the world finds so attractive. Will America become Mexico with nukes?

Heartfelt thanks for your Review, one of the last homes of genuine free speech.

The alt Right needs some marketing lessons. They make it too easy for the liberals to call them racist.
Now that they have aroused people to the immigration issue and the anti white men agenda they need to soft pedal the race aspects and turn to arguments that will increase their numbers….bring in people who would otherwise not want be known as alt right.
There are other hot buttons they need to add that will install some fear about uncheck immigration than just brown and black hordes.

by way deception as they say

Therefore, when the MSM recently claimed that you were all a bunch of violent, murderous madmen, they stampeded the Silicon Valley people into deciding to help shut all of you down as a public service to America.

that’s not it Ron. All these people know damn well what they’re doing – from Zuckerberg at Facebook to Jack whats his name at Twitter to Brin and Page at Google. They’re engaged in partisan censorship, deplatforming, and pushing their fake news and biased spin on reality, to the detriment of all. They’re not innocent.

“In black communities that were or are not exposed to images of violence and rap music, violent crime is a rarity.”

No such black communities exist, and rap music does not cause black violent crime, but is the expression of black violence.

I will make a second criticism of Mr. Unz’s piece: Alt Right websites or youtube videos do display lots of “over the top” comments but when analyzing the significance of this one needs to remember the 1960s (perhaps Mr. Unz is too young.) In the late 60s it was very common for young people to join or defend explicitly Communist parties, call police “pigs”, refer to government officials and establishment commentators as “Fascist pigs”, and speak openly about the need for violent revolution in the United States. Some popular chants of the day included “Off the pigs” (“off” = “kill”), “2 4 6 8 organize and smash the state”, “the only direction is insurrection, the only solution is revolution”, “Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh, Dare to struggle, dare to win!” and various sayings of Mao Zedong (e.g. “power grows out of the barrel of a gun”) and Che Guevara. Being outrageous/ trolling is a declaration of defiance that, according to Saul Alinsky, is more important and effective than reasoned argument. What you see on Alt Right websites doesn’t always brand the author as a “lunatic” but merely a rebel, intent on breaking taboos and outraging the establishmentarian. What is striking is how much self-censorship is required from the rightists compared to what their parents’ generation got away with. It shouldn’t take great subtlety to see this, which undermines the claim that Silicon Valley executives are reacting naturally and reasonably to what they see. Having said that, I admit that a lot of people on the Alt Right are nuts or worse, as were a lot of sixties radicals.

Lol, this is a really bad comparison. Holocaust skepticism isn’t a belief – it’s the lack thereof. Santa Claus doesn’t exist until you disprove his existence; it’s the other way around. You’re actually the one with the faith-based belief.

DENIER!! DENIER!!

So now one can’t make an Agree and a comment within the same hour? That’s pretty draconian.

You’ve hit the nail on the head. It’s extremely common to equivocate between rational/irrational and status quo/ non-status-quo or conformist/non-conformist.

I think David Irving has established by now that the Nazis did indeed kill millions of Jews, but I don’t know what the status of the gas-chamber argument is, nor do I know the status of the claim that the Soviet communists had earlier killed millions other than via the famine.

Per Hispanic crime rates, we are told people are fleeing Honduras because of high-crime rates. The US State Department warns:

“Since 2010, Honduras has had one of the highest murder rates in the world. Credit card skimming is common. Many people report receiving threatening phone calls or extortion attempts, especially during Christmas and Easter holidays. Gangs are not reluctant to use violence and specialize in murder-for-hire, carjacking, extortion, and other violent street crime. They are also known to control some of the taxi services. Violent transnational criminal organizations also conduct narcotics trafficking and other illicit commerce.”

https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=23798

So who thinks crossing the US border makes them all saints? Wanted criminals are wise to head north to cross the US border. Those released from prison have records and face police harassment and employment problems, so heading north also makes sense. Any immigrant who arrives penniless will steal what they can to survive. That’s why a focus on Hispanic crime rates is misleading. Stats on impoverished illegal immigrant crimes rates of any race would be shocking, but are not publicized for that reason.

If you want a graphic display of Hispanic crime, just look at the current LAPD most wanted list to learn why whites fear Hispanic crime.

http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

As President Trump noted, illegal immigrants are not the best from Latin American nations, but the worst, the unwanted. Latin American nations have shipped their unwanteds to the USA for decades. Our media ignored the recent “caravans” from Central America arrived at the USA on chartered buses, paid for by Mexicans. They are furious that North Americans want this dumping stopped. So is Mr. Reed, who doesn’t want these surplus people filling the streets in his nice Mexican retirement town where he lives like king off his monthly government checks from the USA.

Given the inertia (perhaps we should spell it as INERTIA to differentiate it from the Newtonian variety) that underpins human societies, your conclusion stated in the last para of your post is what I would bet my money on. But I’d up my bet size if the order of occurrences was framed differently, proceeding from the most likely to the least likely. That order I see as being: media propaganda and an elite Nomenklatura (aren’t we almost already there?); across the board SJW indoctrination (we are heading there at supersonic speed); secret police (this one too has been showing itself more and more); censorship (exactly what political correctness is all about); detention camps (not very likely because unnecessary if the preceding have succeeded); slide into Zio-Glob dictatorship (not likely because who needs ugly dictatorships when you can dispense Soma to calm the unwashed masses). Furthermore, SJW indoctrination, media propaganda, and an addiction to Soma (in the shape of TV, professional games, etc.) makes it very likely that DO NOTHING is what will come to pass.

>For example, look at some of the internet-popular alternative websites which generate a huuge amount of revenues – Jeff Rense, David Icke, Veterans Today

It seems that way. I call them sites with built-in strawmen.

The typical blogger is usually begging for money and hence probably pretty easy to influence, but some of the fancier high-traffic sites, including some of the ones you mentioned, look like carefully designed psy-ops.

the day after Trump announced he will remove the troops from Syria, Rense had Gordon Duff on from VT and both seemed to be against it, acting like Trump was crazy and Duff even advocated for removing Trump under the 25th Amendment and replacing him with “the respected” Al Gore, lol

My work brings me into contact with a lot of Latinos, many illegal I suspect. They seem perfectly nice and don’t make me nervous. I do find myself nervous around some of the blacks, though in general they seem more pleasant than blacks of 50 years ago. White liberals must accept a good part of the blame for black anger, which they incent in many ways.
It’s not surprising that Latinos vote Democrat, given their economic status. As a social conservative I wish we had a populist party that was socially conservative, libertarian on speech, and economically friendly to the working class.

A great article from Ron, very perceptive and thought provoking. However, instead of making a case for “self-censorship”, why not make a case for “Choose your battles wisely”? The Alt-right definitely needs crash courses in Political Strategy 101 and Political Tactics 101. Both Mao and Lenin were “way over the top” but they succeeded because they engaged in the right battles at the right times.

Agree.

The only point of (minor) disagreement is the last sentence in:

3) Quite possible since the US is loaded with firearms, and the armed forces would probably show split loyalties (be reluctant to destroy American cities). At the end of it, the US would lie in ruins.

I’d change it into: some parts of US would lie in ruins.

How can Trump be a neocon (or even a neo-neocon) if he is pulling out of Syria?

Do you think some of what you are saying is due to a selection bias? Many of the people who were against illegal immigration voted with their feet once the courts overruled propositions voted at the ballot box meant to curtail the deluge. So there is less opposition and more a sense of unity as those folks have been replaced by immigrants. So now you just have relatively small wealthy White/Asian communities that are immune to social issues and non-wealthy Hispanic populations that have become a large majority and have shaped the state in their image. Thus the apparent peace. But at what cost? California is now lost to old stock Californians – the Okies and other mid-century dreamers (heh!).

Tim Wise is not a Jew. I know he’s lied about it, but he’s not. Besides, what doesn’t he lie about?

Aside from that and your mistaken belief that the Juden unser Unglück sind, your comment was excellent.

I’m guessing that there aren’t a lot of JFK worshippers around here.

Ron Unz—Thank you for the clarification, I thought you meant black-white violence. Black crime is at a similar level in England. This newspaper report was published in 2010:

‘The reality of violent inner-city crime is indicated today by statistics obtained by The Sunday Telegraph.

The official figures, which examine the ethnicity of those accused of violent offences in London, suggest the majority of men held responsible by police for gun crimes, robberies and street crimes are black. Black men are also disproportionately the victims of violent crime in the capital. The statistics, released by the Metropolitan Police, permit an informed debate on a sensitive subject for the first time.

The data provide a breakdown of the ethnicity of the 18,091 men and boys who police took action against for a range of violent and sexual offences in London in 2009-10. They show that among those proceeded against for street crimes, 54 per cent were black; for robbery, 59 per cent; and for gun crimes, 67 per cent. Street crimes include muggings, assault with intent to rob and snatching property.

Just over 12 per cent of London’s 7·5 million population is black, including those of mixed black and white parentage, while 69 per cent is white, according to the Office for National Statistics.’

Dear Mr. Unz,

Like a true racist, you publish statistics to bolster an argument that brown people represent and advance a specific political ideology. You folks reading this material should realize by now that our government tailors their socialist campaigns to appeal to minority segments, while our leaders are well aware of the impropriety and unconstitutional nature of their exploitation of blacks, Hispanics and women. Again, history bears out the effectiveness of creating political factions to advance socialism. The results are always the same. LOOK AT VENEZUELA!!!!! Read the history of Chavez and his efforts to instill the socialist mindset among his subjects (Then you can research the reason why his daughter is a billionaire…….) This is a PROCESS. But more importantly, it is historically the chosen means for tyrants to gain power.

What was Hitler’s Political Party designation? National SOCIALISTS.

The alt Right needs some marketing lessons. They make it too easy for the liberals to call them racist.

Maybe they should make it easier.

Working on the principle that’s it’s best to rectify a mistake as soon as it’s identified, the Hart-Celler Immigration and Naturalization Act (1965) is now acknowledged as a failure. At the time it was claimed that it wouldn’t alter the demographic mix of the United States – but it did.

Rectification would involve annulling it, with revised citizenship being based on being a citizen in 1965 or being the direct descendent of a person who was a citizen in 1965.

Citizenship (and voting rights) would then more or less revert to the mix in 1965, with non-qualifying current citizens having their status changed to “long term resident” without voting rights – but all their other rights untouched as long as they paid taxes.

It’s an open question which political figure would have the power to introduce the legislation, but they would need to be quick, and dive into the nearest bunker to handle the massive Liberal/ Globalist/ SJW/ Jewish incoming.

Fine food for thought from Mr. Unz. Much appreciated.

My first reaction, actually the only reaction, is that all this is a fine argument for devolution.

If Silicon Valley, not to mention Portland, Oregon and Taos, New Mexico and Sedona, Arizona are so radically unaware of West Virginia (et al.) why, really, should we pretend they are the same nation?

It’s all there in the Anti-Federalist Papers which are not hard to find. What’s difficult is which one of those ancient lads was more prophetic than the other.

Silicon Valley, as a Crown Colony of the Federal Reserve (and Global Tech corporations more generally), could and should remain as it is. As for the rest of us…

Just take one issue and unwrap it, and the whole becomes clear. Try the bogus opioid epidemic.

The details are unnecessary for us to get into (especially since there’s been a suicide epidemic accelerating since 2008). They spun it in such a way as to (a) turn all legitimate pain sufferers into “addicts” by cutting them off from legitimate relief, and (b) increased the power of at least three federal agencies (FDA, DEA, CDC) so that every trip to the doctor, from now on, will be a visit to the Security State.

So the effect was? Obvious and quick. A fifty-ish fellow with severe permanent degenerative pain from an industrial accident long ago was cut off cold here in flyover country, same as war veterans with similar injuries… among many others.

But the fifty-ish fellow made a 2+2=5 deduction immediately. He is convinced this was a totalitarian, coordinated move to create customers for Afgan heroin he’s certainthe CIA is flying into the country by the ton every day.

People in pain have every reason to believe the worst about those who dole it out and those who add to the misery. I cannot blame the fellow.

And that’s only one topic.

As a libertarian from the late 70s I can relate all the stories of “unintended consequences” but this one looks intentional. Some individuals or groups, very high up, want to ratchet up the fear and anger quotient down below. Drugs, race, sex, income… it goes across the board. Those of us in industrial security see bits of all of it. Not getting better since Trump.

An economic devolution first, gradually moving to self-sufficiency till political seperation becomes necessary (flags always follow money). A peaceful possibility and in accordance with self-determination as the Founders intended.

If the old Soviet Union could do it there is no reason why we cannot. From “Evil Empire” to normal and natural nations. From “Great Satan” to a swath of truly independent countries between Canada and Mexico. Each deciding its own fate and following its own destiny.

Why not?

Pretty much.

Just a little addition:
Detention camps: true, but plenty of other forms of physical control, from wearing a device, through home detention and short term country jail(s) to “proper” prisons.And, there will definitely be hard life term incarceration (think that guy in Norway or Hanssen) , even death penalty here and there, for those really stepping out of line.

‘Lol. This is a really bad comparison…’

Have it your way, then. Holocaust Denial is the rational, demonstrably true belief and belief in the reality of the Holocaust is logically indefensible.

You’re magnificently missing the point. My point was:

‘…The problem I see is that in plugging Holocaust denial in particular, one immediately marginalizes both oneself and anyone one is associated with…’

…and that is indubitably true. Think of it as akin to arguing for a New World with huge temples in 800 AD. You’d be right — but at the same time, you wouldn’t exactly be convincing people of your sanity.

You gotta think about what you’re in this for. Are you trying to demonstrate your wisdom and intellectual integrity to yourself — or do you want to change people’s minds about the issues that matter right now?

LOL!

‘Well, in America the rarely-admitted truth is that virtually all interracial violence involves blacks…’

Meh. That’s somewhat exaggerated. If we got rid of all blacks, things would be massively improved — but they wouldn’t become all sweetness and light.

In the eighties, I taught in a high school that went from about 80% Hispanic/20% Asian to about 60% Hispanic/40% Asian over the four years I was there.

There was a fair amount of inter-racial tension and violence including at least one shooting. Nothing like what would have gone on if blacks had been one of the groups, but it wasn’t all peaceful harmony.

In general, while I side with you in your distaste for the more virulent forms of anti-Hispanic bigotry, I think you go overboard in the opposite direction. They’re not perfectly assimilable (sp?), and particularly not in the quantities that they’ve been arriving in.

I’ll even go so far as to speculate that you tend to defend them because first, they don’t threaten you personally in any way — you’d sing a different tune if you were a carpenter! Second, they are indeed hard-working, (literally) small and non-threatening, and usually docile and respectful of (your) wealth and power. These aren’t criticisms of you so much as suggestions that perhaps your attitude inevitably owes something to your position — as is true of all of us.

the decline in the white population of CA really shouldn’t be exaggerated. About 50 years ago, the state had 20M people and was around 80% white. Now it has 40M people and is 30-35% white.

White non-Hispanics in California:
– 1970 census: 15.2 million
– 1990 census: 17.0 million
– 2000 census: 15.8 million
– 2010 census: 15.0 million
– 2017 Census Bureau estimate: 14.6 million

A significant population loss, near 20% by one possible measure. By 2017, California should have had 18 million Whites if its population growth were exactly in line with nationwide average White population growth of 1990 to 2017 (+5%). California is now on track for <14.5 million Whites for the 2020 census to be taken in a year and a half.

The total USA White non-Hispanic population in 1990 was 188.1 million and 2017 is estimated at 197.3 million, a figure now also in absolute decline (national peak year: 2015 at 197.5 million).

Fixing each at 1990=100:

USA, White population (absolute)
1990: 100
2017: 105

California White population (absolute)
1990: 100
2017: 86

This significant population loss since 1990 seems to me to be a case of Whites voting with their feet, anti-endorsing the multiracial California model.

Sources:

The media is dominated by Jews. Even Jews acknowledge that fact. What Jews won’t acknowledge is the fact that they’ll control the narrative. It’s no accident that Google, Facebook and other social network websites are culling free speech, and targeting “Alt-Right” web pages for dismissal. What should be discerned by the gentry is the strange relationship between supposedly ultra-conservative luminaries such as Limbaugh and Prager with these social network operators. In case you haven’t noticed, Limbaugh ‘presided’ over two Clinton Presidencies, two Obama Presidencies, Gay Marriages, Partial-Birth Abortions, Moonbeam II and other liberal campaigns coming to fruition. If you desire to hear a full accounting of Israel’s efforts to (again..) employ American Military Forces to fight their battles, tune-in to the surviving “Alt-Right” channels for the latest pep talk. Conservatives no longer exist within politics, the media or on the web. If you believe for one minute that the aforementioned “Alt-Right” pundits do not serve in a capacity as cheerleaders for Israel, then you might as well resign your Conservative Party membership.

You successfully convinced me that racial diversity works best when everyone has a six figure job and expensive real estate.

I stopped self-defining as a “conservative” of any type a long time ago and started trying to analyze issues one by one. The left/right single-dimension axis tends to be used to herd people into uncritically accepting certain positions without thinking too much.

With that said, those who accept the label “Alt-Right” have already ceded rhetorical ground to the Bill Kristol crowd. The “Alt-Right” is traditional conservatism. It doesn’t need a new name. It is the neoconservatives who are the splinter group, deserving the qualifier.

As far as censorship in Silicon Valley is concerned, extreme elements of the far right are being used (and no doubt impersonated) as bogeymen for justification, but the real targets and motivations of the crackdown can be gleaned from Google’s handbook for search evaluators:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-06-10-google-internal-handbook-instructs-engineers-to-bury-natural-news-web-pages-from-search-results.html

On page 108 of the search evaluator quality guidelines, Google gives a glimpse into the type of reference information they bury, including “Pages that directly contradict well-established historical facts (e.g., unsubstantiated conspiracy theories), unless the query clearly indicates the user is seeking an alternative viewpoint.”

I’d imagine those well established historical facts include the official 9/11 and Holocaust narratives, both of which have steadily been losing ground, especially among millennials.

More clues from Google’s “Good Censor” memo:

https://www.scribd.com/document/390521673/The-Good-Censor-GOOGLE-LEAK#from_embed

Page 66: “The American Tradition” (free speech) vs. the “European Tradition (dignity over liberty).” When you consider that the CIA largely created that “European Tradition,” and controls the narrative of their press, the issue becomes clear: Given the information-porous borders, we can’t give ordinary Americans a platform to undermine our foreign propaganda.

There’s no doubt that Google works closely with the government. There have been racist and anti-semitic sites on the Internet from the beginning. They have little impact other than being useful scarecrows to motivate ADL and SPLC contributors.

They’re a lot more frightened about some of the whoppers they were used to getting away with in the pre-Internet age being exposed, or perceptive foreign policy analysis that will hurt their misdirection tactics.

[You have already been told that bizarre use of unorthodox grammar or spelling (e.g. u, u’re, urself), especially in content-free rants, will greatly reduce the likelihood of your comments being published. This is your final warning.]

With “Colin Wright” “Alt-right (Or Anyone) Doesn’t Need Enemies, Suckers

Take Holocaust Denial. I happen to be convinced that the Holocaust happened substantially as advertised, but others aren’t.

What?–first of all, it’s holohoax, nothing else. And WHO would be “convinced” holohoax “happened substantially as advertised…”?–absolutely NO ONE, but a satanic liar, that’s who, the purpose being to besmirch heroic German people who fought so brilliantly against Jew-Bolshevik murderers, which Jew-bolsheviki had already shown themselves as mass-murderers in Ukraine in 1932-3, before NSDAP took power and which heroic German people really were mass-exterminated by Jews, Eisenhower (who was a Jew), and their satanic suck-alongs of the West, Jew S A, and UK.

People always say this but never with an example of what should be done and any thought as to how it would work. We can’t say that Hispanics don’t succeed academically because somebody will trot out Jaime Escalante and his (mostly exaggerated) success. Besides if we just spent more of whitey’s money on another program, that should do it. Can’t talk about higher welfare use because whites use the most welfare (even if their rate of use is lower). Can’t talk about affirmative action for people who just hopped the fence (white privilege and all that).

How do you argue for less Hispanic immigration when the only thing you are allowed to say is how wonderful they are?

Please put one thing out there that will get any response other than people sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming “racist” until you go away.

Let’s not forget that the “debate” is juvenile because that is the only debate the left will allow on the issue.

So basically Unz’s whole point is SV is against Alt-right because they are much more multicultural and do not see the threat.

I don’t think Unz is being honest here. The real issue here is SV has been taken over by Jews just like Wall Street, Hollywood, K Street, DNC, the media, academia and judiciary. Jews go whole hog embracing multiculturalism because it benefits them in at least 3 ways, 1) in a nation of all Christian whites, Jews are at the bottom of the totem pole, but when surrounded by all non-whites, they are suddenly “white” by comparison, 2) they are no longer the only out group, hence “safer”, and 3) they like cheap labor.

When Jews take over an institution/industry, they invariably run it to the ground through their greed, dishonesty and lack of self-restraint, and the best way to hide all that moral degeneracy is through loud virtue signaling. The book Brotopia talks about the drugs, sex, and moral degeneracy of SV approaching the level of Hollywood. We can even see this through the shows produced by Netflix and Amazon, SV and Hollywood are converging. And with the hiring of Obama admin people and financing by Wall Street run private equity, SV is converging with Hollywood, DC and Wall Street. This always happens when Jews are in charge. Hitting out at alt-right is just virtue signaling to cover up their own moral degeneracy.

In addition, cheap labor is the lifeblood of the tech industry. Tech plantation owners from Gates to Zuckerberg, Bezos to Jewgle to Tim Cook need their cheap code coolies. Even though they hire no more than 5,000 blue badge employees a year between these top 5 firms, they employ hundreds of thousands of contingent staff through consulting agencies like Infosys, TCS, Wipro, who hire all their code coolies from India, China, Philippines and elsewhere. Trump’s “America First” agenda could put a hamper on that cheap code coolie pipeline, though Trump’s been all talk and no walk on this front and has done nothing to stop the H1b, OPT, L1, B1 hirings, we know Jews are a paranoid lot. Zuckerberg and Jewgle guys need a few more billions to keep up with Bezos.

One must ask why white males in the tech industry who are increasingly losing jobs to cheap foreign workers willingly join in on this assault of the alt-right, against their self-interest. My experience from hanging out with them is they are either so dumb they bought in on all this virtue signaling, or are part of the large stock holder class and want to profit off the cheap labor themselves, or both.

Dear Sir: I often times read/listen/view the opinions of some of the FEW ill-labeled ALT-Right media. I even listen to Dr David Duke, althought one may find some of his ideas objcetonable nevertheless HE is not the evil incarnation that the MSM make him out to be. In fact Dr. Duke seems a reasonable intellectual worthy of debate, attention,etc. I would bet you that IF the PUBLIC were allowed to make their OWN choices as is their Constitutional democracy in the FREE market of ideas Dr. Duke would be one of the leading voices of American political debate. I do not think for a minute that allowing Dr. Duke, Dr. Kevin McDonald, and even mainstream moderates like Hanson Davis, Pat Buchanan, Tucker Carlson, and other that may be calssified as alt right voices would in any way cause a racial civil war quite the contrary, any topic debated openly, reasonable, UNcensored debate allows reasonable people, even deplorables to speak, write, analyze the issues and I am convinced that ultimately some shades of truth will emerge and charlatans both in the MSM/ALtRight will be dismissed and people as often the case will move towards the middle, center. modera positions. Sometimes what cause violence is CENSORSHIP, and what the MSM, Antifa, LEFT<dem academics are doing is outright FASCISM, totalitarian idelogical dictatosrhip…Unfourtunately ALL voices are under threat from the Kosher Inquistion, ANTIsemitism is the nuclear trigger that silences ALL debate…why??? And please not everything is well in placid California, poverty, homelessness, intraracial conflicts (schools), Most people in California are not part of the Sillicon Valley Elite earning millions, quite able to secure their standards of living in healtl education, POLICING, etc. And will postponed the dabte surrounding LIBERAL racism…they love minorities BUT not in their neighborhoods, equipped with video surveillances, drones, private patrols,…whatvere we think of the ALT Right as lunatics, conspiracy theotries well they MUST be given their space as other are also IF MSM tolerares pornographers, pedo advocates, same sex toilets, public (adult/child) nudity, legalizing drugs, atheists, satanists, eugenicists, why not the ALT/TRight?????? will that be the end of the world?

If you want a graphic display of Hispanic crime, just look at the current LAPD most wanted list to learn why whites fear Hispanic crime.

http://www.lapdonline.org/all_most_wanted

Awesome. Now Unz can shut up about Hispanics being wrongly blamed for crimes.

what is the “correlation” between or among factors like POVERTY, income levels, UNemployment and crime with the fact of being BLACK???? DEM black cities? FAILED schools???what is the correlation between crime and IMMIGRATION status within the “hispanic” population…will and ILLegal latino (deportation) commit as much crime as a legal/USA BORN latinos? IF you were an illegal Latino working in the USA to support your family back in your home country would you commit crimes???? AND be extremely careful intragenerational factors fro ALL populations???

that’s about it.

Unz is a righteous Jew, and thus can “get along” with Whites.

the Sanhedrin, however, has other ideas. Encapsulated by

Sontag’s “White Race is the Cancer of human History”,

a perspective since shared by many other public Jews: Wattenberg, Ignatiev, Wise, Soros, etc. etc.

(((they))) intend to extinct us, and

are doing so by collapsing the White birthrate (legalized abortion, porn, sexperv, and Judeo-feminism)

and Judeo-globalist open-borders ethnorc insourcing.

@Unz: where does it end? When Whites are down to 30%? 20%? 10%? or 0% of the population?

if organized Jewry continues to have its way, it ends at…0%.

Tim Wise is not a Jew. I know he’s lied about it, but he’s not. Besides, what doesn’t he lie about?

By his own admission he considers himself Jewish and based on his professed animus towards whites and anti-white activism I’ll take him at his word. Moreover, I’m not aware of any prominent Jews or Jewish groups who have challenged his claim, so it would appear they consider him one of their own as well.

Obviously with your good work acknowledging and documenting black on white crimes you are an exception and the anti-Tim Wise. As is Ron Unz with this site and for being one of the most tolerant and possibly the most tolerant moderator on the internet.

“Holocaust Denial” is an incendiary term that will justify the unleashing of the Jewish SMR (Scalded Monkey Routine) response to such heresy and hatred. Many Jews “Deny the Holocaust”, and even a scintilla of scrutiny applied toward that topic opens up an entire chapter revealing its origins: War Atrocity Propaganda. As the Holocaust Industry slowly dispenses with the most ridiculous elements of that event, such as Human Soap, a leftover from WWI, along with lampshades made from Jewish Skin, Holocaust historians must feverishly revamp their published volumes and lecture content to keep up with the changes. Hilberg, for example, deleted references to his “Hitler Orders to Exterminate the Jews” published in his standard reference work “The Destruction of the European Jews” after confessing his inability to produce those orders during his testimony at the Zundel False News Trial in Canada. What goyim should know is that, during Zundel’s Appeal Trial, NONE of the witnesses, historians or prosecution experts would appear and testify under oath.

(Can you say “Perjury”?…….)

Truly, Holocaust Revisionism is akin to shooting Gefilte fish in a barrel, which is why the Industry has shifted their efforts toward government sanction and protection of that fairy tale.

Time Wise is Jewish in the paternal line.

he ID’s as a Jew,

and his murderously anti-White stance

is definitively Jewish.

lol, good rant

OT:

looks like we on the right actually shamed the state of Texas into labeling the beaners on their Ten Most Wanted Criminals as “White (Hispanic)” now instead of the usual Gomez’s, Gonzalez, Ramirez etc being called “White”

https://www.dps.texas.gov/texas10mostwanted/MostWanted/Fugitives

notice 8 out of 10 hispanic, 9 out of 10 non-white

I myself will shortly be leaving Mexifornia: in Santa Barbara, my current domicile (and a B’nai Brith/ADL-ruled sanctuary city) c. 2/3 of the population no longer speaks English…or shares my values. So it is now a mass

exodus.

and it’s accelerating rapidly.

the White population of Mexifornia will be c. 25% by the mid-2020’s

and thereafter decline precipitously.

Bravo. It’s sad but it’s how liberals think, because they are all heart and no brain. I know of family members who casually know of a Muslim or two and instantly came to the conclusion that all Muslims are good people. They went hysterical over Trump’s “Muslim ban” because, gosh darn, “We have Muslim friends!” Even though they really don’t know a damn thing about said friend, he could be a wife beater, or have several wives, fund Al Qaeda, have family members who joined ISIS, they wouldn’t know. But they know all Muslims are good people because Muhammad always says hello at the water cooler.

Thanks, buddy–I must be careful how I spell, hoho ho ho. I hope people will tell Unz he’s not being accurate about grammar, or “content-free,” and he’s obviously just setting-up excuse for his censorship–which censorship is precisely what he pretends to be speaking against in this thread, notice? Take care.

There is a substantial difference between worshiping JFK and recognizing Israel’s responsibility for his murder.

I was wanting to bring up that point. White Hispanics may as young men get up to some mischief, even serve time. But they are working class young white and Asian men’s rituals everywhere in the world. That is manageable. But of course one would rather working class Hispanics were not in large numbers living in the non Mexican historic areas. Can’t really hold it against them for living in the Mexican historic areas. It’s the Mestizo problem. I am sure but don’t know if you checked the racial descent of the vicious Hispanic gangs and random violence actors, you would see maybe even entirely they are Mestizos. The Caribean Hispanics are the black problem and should not be included with the American Hispanics. Of course, there are lovely Mestizos. But I think a good male Mestizo unless he is very intelligent must have an institutional support such as a Church.

The piece is very….naive.
Where to begin?
You say that Alt-right figures exaggerate what it will be like when whites become a minority?
And you cite California to support your thesis?
Where to begin?
I was robbed at gunpoint by mexican gang members.
My car was totaled by a mexican illegal who gave me false information at the accident scene.
My building was tagged up, “HATE WHITE PEOPLE HATE BLUE EYES.”
I was fired from my job (by mexicans and blacks) and cheated out of my pension.

But Ron says there is nothing to be worried about when whites become a minority.
Thanks for the heads up.

The hq of Apple is located in a city that has almost exactly 1/10th the proportion of Hispanics as does its enclosing California.

Apple Park is the corporate headquarters of Apple Inc., located at 1 Apple Park Way in Cupertino, California

Cupertino city, California [2017]
Hispanic or Latino, percent … 3.9%

California [2017]
Hispanic or Latino, percent … 39.1%

It isn’t only the Alt-right suffering censorship on the web. Anti War voices, people reporting alternative views on the middle east conflict have been censored. Anyone seriously questioning the “west’s” narrative on Russia is painted as Russian troll these days. The EU pushing forward draconian legislation regarding copyright law. Perhaps this is just more of the same; the rules of the MSM being pushed on the big web companies.

Remember Amazon dropping hundreds of book titles recently. John Pilger can no longer publish articles in his old stomping grounds in “The Guardian”. Seymour Hersh is an outlaw these days and self proclaimed socialist Chris Hedges enjoys shelter on R.T.

Yes, perhaps the final decisions about disappering sites or blogs are made in Silicone Valley but I find it unlikely the personal experiences of the people running these companies makes much difference. After all they are running multi billion dollar enterprises laying golden eggs and at the same time are under serious political pressure both in the U.S. and abroad. They have a lot to loose if they don’t play ball and since the business model for most of them is harvesting private information from the public to sell to their advertisers – ideological issues like free speech are hardly high on the priority list. Disappering few bad apples mumbling about controversial issues is just the cost of doing business.

As for the “Alt-Right” – I honestly don’t get it after year on unz.com If Charlottesville is any indication the “Alt-Right” is a dead horse. A political impossibility not realizing – when in a hole – stop digging. As a movement it needs total reform. Red-pilling the rest of the population about ww2 or some long passed historical issues isn’t going to work. New plan is needed – but the real question is – does the ALt-Right really deserve sympathy? I am not sure about that.

The point is they’re foreign people who vote against the interests of the host population, which is proof positive that the entire stack of rhetoric and propaganda this all was sold on was lies. No one voted to bring these people in or consented to bringing them in, yet those worst affected receive no sympathy. Deaths from despair, literally the biggest ongoing genocides in history if this continues. No political representation whatsoever, either.

When I think of white liberals you talk of but the hyperatomized libertarian LARP crowd really aren’t much different from, I think I can understand things like public executions and cheering crowds in the not-so-distant past for crimes of treason. No sense of the past, present or future. No solidarity with your own kind. No real investment in the future. Purely treasonous and mercenary. Whatever gets you the most money in the here and now, future costs be damned.

Let’s be real here. Every single demographic except for SOME east Asians commits significantly more crime (as in multiples) of the white rate. Central and South American countries have some of the highest murder rates in the world. They are utter hellholes. The fact that the US government calls Mestizos and every other non-European they can “White” for the purpose of obfuscating the crime rates in the US doesn’t change this fact. It doesn’t matter that blacks are overall generally the worst.

Letting these people in is more crime that can be prevented by not letting them in. In any case, they all have their own countries. If they’re really as great as you claim they are, why are their countries all such toilet bowls?

I’m hated and vilified by the Holocaust Deniers.

Oh what to do, oh what to do?

Thank you once again Ron for keeping a laser like focus on the perils of legal immigration along with that of illegal immigration, which most people just discount as something innocuous. Replacing the upper middle class and the elite class of this country with someone from a low trust, dog eat dog culture like India and China will irreversibly change the character of our country as well as the direction it is going in. We see the terrible repercussions of importing high IQ and extremely low trust (with goyim out-groups) ashkenazi folk today.

Granted China is miles ahead of India (which is way way more ethnocentric due to it’s myriad castes and competing groups treating eat other as out-groups) but still it is way too different from a Saxon perspective that provides Anglo-Saxon Europe and Anglo Saxon derived derived nations such high quality of life which is based on a high trust society

Though we do differ on the role Hispanic or rather (to be precise) Mestizos are going to play in the country, there are at least agreements on the perils of legal immigration that you seem to understand well. That’s positive

Oh what to do, oh what to do?

stop pretending to be Alt-Right?

If the Fed gov was instead used a weapon against your type

“Danger” liberal ahead.

No. While you’re probably right about the SV reaction to the alt-right, there is no direct line from that reaction to agreeing to censor content as per the direction of the ADL, the SPLC, and the Weekly Standard. Your argument doesn’t begin to compute. And your ‘blame the victim’ game is transparent and completely wrong. The censorship now is overt and draconian, and it’s time to begin thinking of some way to combat it ….. if one exists.

Note: I’ve commented before but I forgot my screenname.

Among other things, Hanson says there is a big theft problem where he lives in the Central Valley. He has experienced it often on his farm and even century-old public buildings have their ornamentations stolen. Hanson also says he sometimes finds the mangled corpses of the losers of last night’s Pit Bull fights on his property. Remember, besides being a professor of Classics, he has Mexicans in his extended family.

I wrote “Not sure how you can be so wrong on this” because in general you strike me as a solid researcher. Maybe you have a blind spot on this issue as you seem to be super pro-Hispanic immigration? I gave you some research ideas (La Raza and Reconquista), I’m sure if you set your mind to it and research it objectively you will find it is far, far more than your “Supreme UFO God” anecdote. I don’t follow it in great detail but there was a quite big deal about this during the 2006 pro-immigration protests, with countless La Raza protesters in the US waving Mexican flags and walking the walk. Although I generally don’t like Human Events, some of that activity is summarized there.

No, the Latinos are an invading force, there is no doubt in my mind. They are smart enough not to rock the boat while the minority, but they will soon be the majority, and you will see more power be exercised. I don’t claim every Latino is anti-European, but virtually every Latino identifies with Latinos, not with Europeans. I have lived all over both metropolitan and rural California, not just the utterly unrepresentative Silicon Valley, and I quite know what I am writing about here. When push comes to shove, and the Latino leader comes along, they will follow him, not you, and not Whitey.

As an example, when “everyone says” that Russia hacked our presidential election, well, then, I suppose that Russia must have hacked our presidential election.

The fundamental problem is not that Russia hacked our election, but that we would be far better off she they did than if she didn’t.

That’s our leadership situation. That’s why we elected a casino owner.

The alt Right needs some marketing lessons. They make it too easy for the liberals to call them racist.

The trick to dealing with accusations of racism is to act like you’ve just been accused of…something irrelevant. When you start sputtering denials, they win. When you ignore the accusation, or hurl it back, and move on quickly to your next talking point as if nothing significant has happened (because nothing has), you’re starting to “get” it. If need be, you can start enumerating all the ways that the left is racist against Whites*. If you don’t know many, go hone your rhetoric, you aren’t ready for advocacy.

*This is not DR3. DR3 is faggot boomers claiming the left are the real racists against non-whites.

Have it your way, then. Holocaust Denial is the rational, demonstrably true belief and belief in the reality of the Holocaust is logically indefensible.

You’re magnificently missing the point. My point was:

‘…The problem I see is that in plugging Holocaust denial in particular, one immediately marginalizes both oneself and anyone one is associated with…’

No, I got your point, but you larded it with some really shitty talking points that I wanted to correct.

Yes, you’re right, a lot of normies are repelled by Shoah revisionism. A lot of normies are also worthless shytes (far too “respectable”) who will never join us until it’s totally obvious which way the wind is blowing, and by then we won’t need them anymore.

Not saying there’s no middle ground, but that was part of my point; many styles for many audiences. There are a LOT of very rational white guys out there who, frankly, don’t give a good flying goddamn what the herd thinks and are instead rather fond of doing their own thinking. They’re the audience for Shoah revisionism. IOW, I think there’s room for both styles.

You gotta think about what you’re in this for. Are you trying to demonstrate your wisdom and intellectual integrity to yourself — or do you want to change people’s minds about the issues that matter right now?

IMO there’s no One True Way. Not in terms of optimal systems of gov’t, and not in optimal systems of advocacy. E.g., to your left there are guys kvetching about how aunty-semytizm is holding us back. And to their left, guys kvetching about racism. Etc. I happen to know from experience that treetopping counter-semitism right from the start can turn guys into WNs, because I’m one of those guys. My philosophy is to just shoot straight and not try to hard to tailor stuff to the listener, at least online. Give the facts, and let people make of them what they will.

P.S., I happen to have a very unique approach to “revisionism” that actually doesn’t constitute “denial.” Only skepticism. I happen to find it a lot more defensible and persuasive than the hard-core denial methods I see others using. The fact is, I’m not a scholar, and I don’t know enough about the subject to really hold forth, one way or the other. On the other hand, I absolutely know that the orthodox narrative stinks. I mean really stinks. That is undeniable, and I can easily prove it. But truth be told, I don’t know for certain what happened. But to each his own.

Do you even know what the Alt Right stands for? I don’t think you do…yet you criticize a movement you give no indication of understanding.

SYSTEM wants 1)War with Christian Russia…..2)coast to coast demographic shift….3)homo-pederast norming of American Society…..The Alt Right is a revolt against this….perhaps you support 1)…2)….3)…?

The SYSTEM is obviously very terrified of the Alt Right….that’s why it wages Police State repression against the Alt Right…… But why is the SYSTEM terrified of the Alt Right?

But as I pointed out upthread, the total white CA population has only declined by 15-20% over the last half century, hardly any sort of “mass exodus.”

LOL, different strokes, I guess. Because I call that a mass exodus.

(Especially when talking about the best real estate on the planet)

indicate that tech leaders like socially (not economically) progressive ideas that are fashionable among elites.

They like socially progressive ideas because they’re terrified of economically progressive ideas. If they keep pushing socially progressive ideas they hope that no-one will notice the ever-increasing economic inequality.

They support the Cultural Left enthusiastically because they have nightmares that an actual Economic Left might arise and force them to give up a few of their billions.

It’s all about class but the alt-right is incapable of understanding such complicated subjects.

It’s really amusing to see alt-righters rabbiting on about IQ when their own comprehension of the world is so pathetically unsophisticated and naïve.

I could see a Caucasoid anti-white racist in the anti-white racism business claiming to be Jewish to fit in.

‘stop pretending to be Alt-Right?’

Are you saying I’m not really one of the faithful?

1) in a nation of all Christian whites, Jews are at the bottom of the totem pole, but when surrounded by all non-whites, they are suddenly “white” by comparison

lol, Jews did quite well in Europe during the Middle Ages, when all but Jews were forced to convert to Christianity (i.e., they were the only “minority”), and are still doing quite well there now. And by doing quite well, I mean, the average Jew was vastly better off than the average Christian.

2) they are no longer the only out group, hence “safer”

It’s quite true that Jews have ruthlessly exploited other minorities – notably African-Americans in the US – to advance their own identity politics, but, I don’t see how that makes them safer. Aggressive, domineering, aberrational behavior can you get in trouble anywhere at any time, and Jews are notorious for absolutely refusing to assimilate – indeed that is their defining characteristic (Jews have always been free to assimilate wherever they have lived, whether in Christian or Muslim countries, it’s just that unlike everyone else, they adamantly refuse because of their belief in their own superiority, which is precisely the belief which gets them in “trouble” over time).

3) they like cheap labor.

Right, as if White and Black America weren’t flocking to Walmart (the China distribution center) in the 80s and 90s while America was being de-industrialized. Everyone likes cheap labor, i.e., everyone likes “more”.

When Jews take over an institution/industry, they invariably run it to the ground through their greed, dishonesty and lack of self-restraint

I don’t see how this is a peculiarly Jewish trait. What have Europeans done with their institutions? What has the Catholic Church done? What of the crimes of the nobility during feudalism, which mirror those of slavery? What rulers who have great power don’t abuse it? The only thing I would note that is particularly Jewish about the US corruption is that Jews put themselves above criticism with their “anti-Semitic” bullshit, which is enough reason to hate every single Jew who uses that epithet to advance Jewish power and corruption (which, unfortunately, is a quite large majority of self-identified Jews).

We can even see this through the shows produced by Netflix and Amazon

Of course the Christians pay for this degeneracy. It’s hardly fair to blame those who produce trash, when they get rich off it, and absolve those who buy it, thus creating the demand and reward. Note in this and virtually every other case of degeneracy, the First Amendment (as interpreted by the Black Robed Satanic Dictatorship) is the enemy of decency and edification.

they hire no more than 5,000 blue badge employees a year between these top 5 firms

I don’t know where you get this stat, but the fact is programming is an international language. If you had two equally competent employees, one demanding $150,000 per year and another $15,000 per year, who would you hire (imagine doing it now, with your money). I’ve been in that position myself, I never minded hiring foreign programmers (though I generally chose Eastern European ones). Again, this has nothing whatsoever to do with Jews; even if there were not a single Jew in the US or the world, this would be happening in the internet world.

The reason for the decline you cite will not be due to White Flight. Liberals are waving illegals into the country who not only vote, but they attach themselves to social programs, and bring with them the attitudes and political ideologies that made their own countries toilets. Mr. Unz ran for Governor of California (Actually, I would have voted for him!) His opposition to Proposition 187, which in part would have relieved Californians from underwriting funding to support illegal aliens, seems like a dichotomy, due to support for that measure coming in large part from Mexican Americans who went through the process of legally attaining U.S. Citizenship. There’s another dichotomy apparent among the liberal camp, as they campaign to increase the illegal alien population: They cite a very famous farm worker named Cesar Chavez as their poster child for these struggling people. Like everything else in the Puffy Lip environment, they didn’t realize Chavez himself despised illegal aliens. (You have to chuckle when Abraham Lincoln is canonized by liberals for freeing the black slaves. Lincoln wanted those people out of the U.S. His political campaign speech could have been the original Ku Klux Klan Manifesto.)

Our state needs sane and competent leadership. It is unfortunate that we don’t have enough sane and competent voters to elect them.

There’s little point in decrying mainstream censorship if we’re just going to muzzle ourselves.

As long as you cling to liberal concepts like freedom of speech you will lose.

As Steve Sailer has pointed out what matters is who controls the Megaphone. And that’s a matter of power. If you want power you have to be prepared to not worry too much about ethical niceties. You have to focus on winning rather than on being virtuous.

Political movements that have successfully gained power have usually purged themselves of the idiots who cause them more harm than good. If you want to have a serious shot at gaining at least a small taste of real power then you’re probably better off without the Holocaust deniers and the 9/11 truthers and the idiots who still carry on about Obama’s birth certificate.

Hahaha I’m only halfway through but I’m really enjoying watching you curb-stomp that little shit. He’s such a duplicitous, sniveling little shit pile.

Every single demographic except for SOME east Asians commits significantly more crime (as in multiples) of the white rate.

What technically is “White” to you? Arabs are White, yet many Whites (despite denying Arabs are White) consider them to be especially violent (rightly or wrongly).

Also, how do you measure murder rates? Consider WW II, which, at least in the European theater, was a war entirely between Whites in which 30 million or more were killed. How many years would it take S. America, with its current crime rates, to catch up to that tidy sum? Think of all the prior European wars, and the violence of feudalism.

Perhaps if you tried to adjust for poverty and other factors you would find that these elements are more critical to crime rates than race. As a data point, consider crime rates in Russia during the Yeltsin years versus now, after economic stability has been restored, and consider the economic conditions in the high-crime Latin American areas. Indeed, go a step further, and compare Latin American crime rates over time against economic conditions for the lower classes over time.

Here is another perspective: how many non-Whites have Whites murdered, if you count all of the wars and colonizations by White people? How many Native Americans, who greeted Columbus with flowers and gifts, were murdered and enslaved by him and his greedy criminal allies?

Perhaps it can be said, that Whites are much more likely to commit collective, organized violence than other races?

Anyway, I don’t have all the answers, I just do know your comment is way over-simplistic.

Post-1965 America is a gargantuan filthy stinking coast-to-coast toilet bowl….California is an ecological disaster area…especially Southern California….something’s gotta-gonna snap….collapse…implode……

I recommend a Cordon Sanitare Policy for Southern California….Let the Gooks and Hindus kill of all the the mega-fauna…endangered plant and endangered bird species in California….let them use up of all the H20….Let the Southern California Ec0nomy crash…or perhaps you believe the laws of physics and ecology don’t apply to California’s Economy……

Post-1965 California is magical thinking writ large….

I suppose the game-plan for end-state malignant tumor California is Governor half-breed-Kraut-Mexican Spic Governor Scharzenegger…….

Benefits enjoyed today acquired through subservient labor will be paid by future generations. Addiction to flattery is a vice that destroys man and culture.

Ron, your arguments here are pretty intellectually lazy.

Yes, it’s certainly true that there are a lot of Trump supporters in West Virginia who don’t have personal experience with Mexicans, but what about the reverse? Do white people who live in Central Valley, or Arizona, or Texas (et. al) not have experience with Mexicans? These are all places that voted for Trump too.

Also, you can turn these lazy/facile heuristics on their head: what do you make of the fact that white people in Vermont (or Marin County) are way more pro Mexican immigration than white people in Texas (or San Diego County)? New Mexico has the most hispanics of any state, how are things going there (in terms of education, poverty, violent crime, overall social welfare)?

Another point: try thinking in terms of ceteris paribus, not whether things are better now than they were in 1970. If you want an argument as to why immigration matters, go look up standardized test scores for whites and hispanics in California.

By the way, I actually agree with you on a lot of things including the hispanic crime thing, and hispanic disease thing. I also think that immigration generally doesn’t lower native wages substantially, since immigrant labor complements native labor.

P.S. Can you write about the Vela Incident?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Incident

Can someone (Ron?) put forward a theory as to why Hispanics have similar violent crime rates to non-Hispanic whites in the U.S., while in the Latin American countries from which they’re drawn, they have the highest intentional homicide rate in the world, exceeding even the most violent African countries?*

El Salvador, Honduras and Venezuela top the list of countries by homicide rate, exceeding the U.S. figures by over ten fold. Mexico exceeds the US by almost four fold. (The American figure being mostly made up of Blacks and Hispanics, itself).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Why do Hispanics behave differently in the U.S. than they do in Latin America? Will this persist even after they achieve a critical mass? (Btw, what research into critical mass effects in Demographics have been done?)

* But, the African figures may be somewhat questionable.

competing groups treating eat other as out-groups

You win the Sigmund Award for Best Typo of the Day!

The company is held hostage by the beliefs of the workforce just the opposite of the days of manufacturing being king where the execs fired you for being too extreme in your leftist views.

LOL. You’d still get fired if you tried expressing actual leftist views. Try working at one of these tech companies and suggesting that the tech monopolies should be broken up, that the banks should be nationalised, that the means of production should be in the hands of the proletariat. They’d fire you in about three nanoseconds.

But there’s no danger of that because neither the execs nor the employees in Silicon Valley hold left-wing views.

Hint: believing in homosexual marriage does not make you a leftist.

Whites could be more persuasive if they focus on some failings among their own bottom 10% at the moment, and try to help them rise up from drugs, tattoos, out-of-wedlock-births, and “the life”.

The Charlottesville pictures were awful: damned fools waving Nazi-stuff, and a few nuts were sporting Klan-clothing. I remember your average white in a collared shirt and khakis back in the eighties, seemingly trying to dress and comport themselves in emulation of their social superiors, not trailer-park-hate-attire.

The alt-right should focus on immigration-reduction first, but then charity and boosterism amongst their fellow whites. If a local polity wants to pull down some statues, and the majority of the voting populace in that area supports it, then so be it. All tussles with antifa are going to be covered by the media as white violence.

I do have an idea at how to stab at the white left’s underbelly however. If you are a white in a hopeless political district, you could register as a democrat and always vote for the minority candidate in the democratic primaries. The more white democrats that realize that they have no place in the party of color, and will not be elected no matter how much corporate money gets thrown at them, the more they will start to see things our way. If for instance in Ron Unz’s California, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, and Newsome all lost their primaries to Mexican-income-redistributionist-candidates in the next Democratic primaries because hordes of former white republican voters crossed lines and voted for them, the realization that they will not be running the future multicultural America will truly dawn on them.

There are other hot buttons they need to add that will install some fear about uncheck immigration than just brown and black hordes.

There are certainly much stronger arguments against immigration that the racial ones.

But the alt-right really needs to address other issues besides immigration. What is the point in “saving” our society from those black and brown hordes if we have a society that is so decadent and so degenerate that it’s not worth saving?

And if the alt-right ever wants to gain significant support it might be a good idea to address economic issues. Trump won in 2016 by giving the appearance that on economic issues he was well to the left of Hillary Clinton. Economic populism with a left-wing tinge wins actual votes.

As a social conservative I wish we had a populist party that was socially conservative, libertarian on speech, and economically friendly to the working class.

There was a time when most Anglophone countries had such parties. Certainly in Australia up to the late 60s the Labor Party was generally like that. In fact up to the 50s the Australian Labor Party was very Catholic and very socially conservative.

Such parties did exist in the past and there’s no reason they couldn’t exist today. In fact being left on economic issues and being conservative on social issues is a natural fit – the destruction of the family has been a catastrophe for the working class, as has the rising tide of drugs and sexual degeneracy. Old School leftists were very well aware of that danger.

@NMM20c @mandatum1979 "The Budapest bathroom incident": Greg Johnson behaved in a sexually inappropriate way toward a male British tourist at the urinal in a Budapest bar, resulting in Greg fleeing the scene. My colleague was in one of the stalls and heard the whole thing.

— Daniel Friberg (@Daniel_Friberg) October 27, 2018

Ron says-

But Silicon Valley is a different story. One-third of the local population consists of Hispanic immigrants, mostly Mexican and a large fraction from an illegal immigrant background.

It’s easy to overlook the fact that California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada were all first colonized by the Spanish, and that all of what is now the southwest United States was first claimed by Spain in the 1600-1700s. The Mexican Revolution for Independence from Spain in 1821 resulted in California becoming part of Mexico. Nobody spoke English, and all of the colonists were of Spanish descent. It was only after the Mexican-American war in 1848 that California finally became part of the USA, and up until this time vast majority of settlers spoke Spanish or were of Mexican heritage. This date was when the California Gold rush brought in hundreds of thousands of Europeans and Yankees from the eastern states.

My point in mentioning this history is that most Americans don’t know the history of the American southwest, and that Mexicans were here first, well before Americans. All of the names are Spanish: San Francisco, Los Angeles, California, Colorado, El Paso, Santa Fe, etc. So they are not ‘immigrants’ in fact. The Spanish speakers were here first. English speakers came much later (and then fucked everything up).

I’d say that the degree of racial/ethnic friction in 30% white CA might even be less than it was between Irish and Italians living in the Boston area 50-odd years ago.

This kind of violence is heavily repressed. Even “talk” of racial dislikes is extremely heavily repressed. It is true that you can keep people down with heavy totalitarian repression like California employs, but that doesn’t mean people don’t have racial or ethnic animus; it just means people are fearful. You can see what happens when the pressure cooker is removed in many instances in history, including, for example, the break-up of Yugoslavia.

So one thing that has *enormously* improved in CA over the last couple of generations has been the almost total disappearance of the sharp racial conflict that used to be such a major problem here.

This again depends on how you look at it. I find California to be amazingly segregated. You have Hispanics working in White businesses, but in general, not living with them. Integration is very poor. While I don’t sense a great hostility among the general population, there isn’t any great love either. You do not even see very many Hispanic-White couples – indeed, astoundingly few – despite the almost pervasive “economic integration” (meaning, Hispanics are constantly in contact with Whites due to work patterns).

Again, it seems to me a lot of the conflict has been suppressed by California’s totalitarian Communist approach on any outward sign of “racism”, with the false “equality” dogma that Communists always use, which is perfectly displayed in SV itself.

Hear! Hear!

My wife spent the past 4 years in West Virginia, working for a time in a meat processing plant. The notion that West Virginians never see immigrants is preposterous. Perhaps in your silicon valley bubble, you feel comfortable making blanket statements about West Virginia, but these big plants import tons of immigrants, mostly dark Africans, to work them.
Before that my wife was a Californian, has rubbed elbows with some heavy hitters in tech, etc, but has watched as CA has become a collection of various ethnic city-states.
Of course silicon valley sees us as kooks as they live in a bubble, but we can’t change the facts about the ramifications of race. The fact is, the middle and upper classes are not going to start a revolution because they are too invested in the current system. So what they think and feel is completely irrelevant. Those of us who have to deal with the consequences of multiculturalism will be the ones to fight. I myself work with many fine Hispanics, but the surrounding towns are crime-ridden. Rich towns have ways to keep things in check. Some places keep the rent high, Survivor me make sure the cops are complete scumbags to any poor person from out of town, etc.

Can someone (Ron?) put forward a theory as to why Hispanics have similar violent crime rates to non-Hispanic whites in the U.S., while in the Latin American countries from which they’re drawn,

Is this question really being posed honestly? Surely, all you would need to do is think about the question for a few minutes to come up with a theory. Or more than one theory even.

There are two obvious theories that aren’t even mutually exclusive.

The first obvious theory is that the people committing most of the crimes in the countries of origin are not the ones emigrating to the U.S.

That’s the simplest possibility. The other thing to consider is that crime, like most other human behavior, is situational. It occurs in a specific context. For example, it is well known that Lieutenant William Calley and the rest of Charlie Company entered a Vietnamese village called My Lai and massacred hundreds of villagers, mostly women and children.

I am pretty sure that, by and large, these same people who did that, after returning to their home towns in the States, never committed such crimes again, or anything remotely similar.

Is there some mystery there that needs explaining?

The horrific violence in Central America is taking place in a specific context. There are specific conditions there that are not present in the U.S.

That’s the kind of SATANIC FILTH!!!! that was very common on the Reagan Whitehouse according to a 1980 Washington Times front page news story…..And it was also going in the George W Bush Whitehouse…..

Reagan-Bush Family Rule=HOMOSEXUAL PEDERASTY….

This is how California was lost….rule by homosexual pederasts….

Whites could be more persuasive if they focus on some failings among their own bottom 10% at the moment, and try to help them rise up from drugs, tattoos, out-of-wedlock-births, and “the life”.

when you’re being flooded by illegal aliens because a treasonous govt refuses to secure the border, blame yourself

How many Native Americans, who greeted Columbus with flowers and gifts…

who told you that?

it must be the magic dirt

aren’t you the one with a website “alternative right dot com”?

It’s easy to overlook the fact that California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada were all first colonized by the Spanish, and that all of what is now the southwest United States was first claimed by Spain in the 1600-1700s.

claimed? that’s a cute word

who did they steal it from?

The Spanish speakers were here first. English speakers came much later (and then fucked everything up).

by “fucked everything up” i presume you mean “built everything”

if only the western U.S. was more like mejico the world would be a much better place, eh?

As I understood it from monitoring sand mining in the USA for the Commerce Dept., Silicon valley is there because there is high quality sand to make computer chips. That is not required for “tech giants” not in the hardware field of computer manufacture. As the software tech giants move away from there or simply have to expand to other areas, their employees will be relocating too. Perhaps they will see things different as they will have to live in not so “Silicon Valley” surroundings. I don’t know, never gave the issue of Silicon Valley being all that important to the culture wars currently going on.

Those “Spanish” were a lot different from the current “Hispanic” Indians, so different they have almost nothing in common except for those Mexican Indians learning a European language . Just as the ‘white Spanish” had nothing to do with the Indians running around Mexico other than kill and enslave them. Sure the “Spanish” were in California first, but those Spanish were white people and they don’t exist in California anymore and have not for hundreds of years. Simply put Mexicans are not Spanish so to claim they have some sort of ethnic precedent right to takeover California ain’t there.

Great exchange, Mark. Thanks for brining it to our attention.

Speaking of bringing things to people’s attention, at the very end of your email exchanges it indicates that you are the editor of the book, Persecution, Priviledge & Power.

Here is the Product Description on Amazon:

“PERSECUTION, PRIVILEGE & POWER” is a controversial but compelling collection of articles that critically explores the impact and influence of organized Zionism on American life and global politics. In one volume, thirty contributing editors weigh in on the hottest and most taboo subject in the Western world; namely, the overpowering reach and influence of organized Jewish groups towards directing policies in Washington that are favorable to the State of Israel or the perceived well-being of Jews world-wide. The taboo against critically exploring the downside of these tribal machinations is cast aside in this searing and informative anthology. Among the distinguished commentators found in “PERSECUTION, PRIVILEGE & POWER” are: James Petras, Charlie Reese, Alison weir, Ray McGovern, Kevin MacDonald, Stephen Lendman, John V. Whitbeck, Israel Shamir, Mark Weber, Richard Curtiss, Gilad Atzmon, Joseph Sobran and others. Throughout this volume, Israel’s dubious role as an American ‘asset’ goes under the microscope, as does that nation’s favored status with whatever Party rules Washington. The writing is direct and penetrating and the conclusions are often explosive. Domestic politics–even world history–will never quite be the same after reading this incisive compilation of web-based analysis. “PERSECUTION, PRIVILEGE & POWER” is a fast read that also makes a provocative and memorable gift.

I think as many Unzers as possible should make a point of purchasing your book.I know I will be.

Here is how the game is being played:

America created by European People………The Pakistan Muslim “Americans”….Korean “Americans”….Hindu “Americans”…..Han People “Americans”…SCREAM:NATIVE AMERICANS GENOCIDED BY EUROPEANS!!!….now hand the keys for America’s LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE over to US…the highly racialized majority nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc….don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out…..and flushed down the toilets of the PUNJAB….goes the sewage about the AMERICAN INJUN….America now belongs to OUR RACIAL TRIBE NOW!!!….

I say:OH YEAH….FUCK ALL YOU MUZZIE “AMERICANS”….HAN PROPLE “AMERICANS….HINDU “AMERICANS”……..America belongs to my people….THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MAJORITY!!!!

Dear Mr. Unz,

I really appreciate your website and the opportunity it offers for airing a diversity of viewpoints. That said, it seems to me that your criticism of “Alt-Right” commentary suffers from the very same faults which you find so objectionable.

For example: “70% of the most visible and heated rhetoric coming from Donald Trump has involved ferocious attacks on Muslims, Mexicans, and immigrants in general…” Seriously, it’s you who need to get your facts straight. First let’s delete the unnecessary judgmental adjectives “heated rhetoric” and “ferocious” — these are propaganda words which apparently represent your opinion and, by the way, are in conformity with the prevailing leftist, anti-Trump narrative. Here’s a statistical analysis of Donald Trump’s Tweets which reveals the truth: theconversation.com/the-math-behind-trumps-tweets-100314 Please show me the “ferocious attacks.”

One comment per hour? Then no comments at all? How have I sinned?

It was only after the Mexican-American war in 1848 that California finally became part of the USA

If California were still a province of Mexico today, they would all want te emmigrate, and Trump would promise to build a wall on the California border.

Given all the millions of illegals who escape Mexico to come here, you would think that they would wish America had annexed all of Mexico instead of just part of it.

Whitey runs the government, the police, and the prisons here. In Latin America, the natives run those institutions.

I have an enormous amount of respect for Ron Unz, but on this issue you are just plain worng.

New York State keeps detailed crime statistics broken down by race, except for ht efac they lump in Arabs, Indians, and the rest of the lighter skinned browns as “white people”. And yet still the most recent statitics read as below.

QUOTE : The race/ethnicity of known Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter suspects mirrors the victim population with Black (61.7%) and Hispanic (27.0%) suspects accounting for the majority of suspects. White suspects account for (7.7%) of all Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter suspects……..

Rape suspects are most frequently Black (49.5%) or Hispanic (33.4%). White suspects account for (11.2%) of all Rape suspects………..

The race/ethnicity of known Robbery suspects is primarily Black (67.0%). Hispanic suspects account for an additional (26.5%) of the suspect population. White suspects account for (4.4%) of all Robbery suspects……..

The race/ethnicity of known Shooting suspects is most frequently Black (74.7%). Hispanic suspects accounted for an additional (22.2%) of all suspects. White suspects (2.1%) and Asian/Pacific Islander suspects (0.8%) accounted for the remaining portion of known Shooting suspects……….. END QUOTE

Source : New York Crime and Enforcement Activity, 2017.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2017-enforcement-report.pdf

And it is not merely crime that is the problem. In my country, Canada, the place has been completely ruined by the invasion of the turd world. White people can no longer afford homes in the cities they created. Crime, pollution, housing costs, fuel , and every single indicator of a reduced quality of life has gone off the charts for every white Canadian.

If you want to call me an “alt-right” I suppose I wouldn’t object. But no sane human should stand by while his racial group is holocausted. And I mean a real holocaust, not the fake one we all acknowledge was created out of whole cloth.

While I agree with this piece by Ron Unz, he has in the recent past written columns that seem to me as crazy as the ones which he now criticizes. I refer in particular to his accusations that Gen. Bill Donovan murdered Gen. George Patton.

Incredible. Brown as a sand dune, heavily Mexican features, and yet still they claim White with (Hispanic) in parenthesis.

I wonder if these “White guys” would get turned down if they applied for MOB set asides on government contracts?

Rabble rabble. More obfuscation by comparing wars to non-wartime. All of these people have their own countries. How about they go live in them and leave us alone. Surely they should be able to make something of them if they’re so wonderful. Surely they don’t need to ride our coat-tails and blood-suck us to death?

Nobody is confused about who’s white. Everyone knows it means an unmixed EUROPEAN. The only time someone acts confused is when we make a positive claim on something that is ours. Then it suddenly becomes “what’s white?” Every other time when affirmative action and other punitive measures are the focus, everyone knows exactly who’s white and who’s not.

99% of the people at Charlottesville were wearing white polo shirts. You bought the propaganda hook, line and sinker, or you’re just being disingenuous on purpose, which is the more likely case.

In any case the misfortunes of the bottom 10% of the white population are GREATLY exacerbated by anti-white race laws and policies. There’s not much you can do to help these people when the government decides the winners and losers in life and has marked them as the losers. There’s no logical reason outside of the government fixing the results that their lot in life should be so bad, as after all they test about as well as the top income bracket of blacks.

As long as Mr. Unz continues to provide a platform for those censored he has done his duty.

As for the perception that if it’s not happening in Silicon Valley it isn’t real – that’s merely human and must be forgiven and understood. Nothing is real until it happens to you.

To return to censorship it’s a net plus: Perhaps now that the peasants aren’t even allowed to grumble they’ll realize we aren’t talking, blogging, meme-ing our way out of this – nor voting, nor alternative media platforms, nor prayer, nor Jesus.

By all means do continue ineffective repression: it enrages without intimidating.

Denying us voice narrows down the options.

The options are: 1] possible peaceful neo-liberal collapse.
2] War.

Address the argument. You are ok with the government being used, clearly. You just don’t want the savage riff-raff in your locale. As long as it’s not putting up Section 8 and using HUD to throw them into your neighbourhoods you seem to be just fine with it. Out of sight, out of mind. Well maybe it should spread around evenly, and your neighbourhoods have quite the quota to meet.

Suddenly, it occurs to me what Ron Unz’s open letter reminds me of:

I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling bullshitting is going on here!

Exactly, life is great in communities with the top 0.01% IQ running the show.

An Open Letter to the “Alt-Right” and Others

Given his political tendencies, rather than writing an OL to the Alt-Right, I would have expected Ron to have written a letter to the “Alt-Left” organizations, such as the SPLC and the ADL.

Excerpt from IS FREE SPEECH UNDER ATTACK BY TECH COMPANIES AND MEDIA OUTLETS WITH A LEFT-LEANING AGENDA?

At issue in particular is the media’s use of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) to single out groups that should be targeted by tech companies for removal. Many on the right claim that the ADL and the SPLC are left-leaning organizations that use their list as a political cudgel against those they don’t agree with, like traditional Christian conservative organizations and others that oppose illegal immigration, unjustly lumping them together with white supremacist groups.

https://dailycaller.com/2017/08/23/is-free-speech-under-attack-by-tech-companies-and-media-outlets-with-a-left-leaning-agenda/

So, Ron expects us Dumb Goyim to accept his thesis that like himself the leaders of Big Texh companies are simply too busy with their software development projects to realize who they’re getting in bed with – i.e., left-leaning organizations, such as the ADL and SPLC?

That their views happen to perfectly align is just coincidental? They are mere babes in the woods who are being taken advantage of and duped by those sly leaders of the ADL and SPLC?

Sure, Ron. Whatever you say.

Since these Big Tech companies provide essential services to the American public, what The Dumb Goyim need to do is demand that they become regulated public entities, pronto.

P.S. still waiting for your OL to the Alt-Left, Ron.

Meanwhile, I claim that whites have gradually been pushed out by outrageously expensive housing costs…

what could be causing that?

Ron, respecfully, as Stalin may have stated, it depends on who is doing the counting. A poster with the user handle ANON linked Texas’ Most Wanted, pointing out that only recently was the change made to include the term “Hispanic” attached to what Texas used to call white people. These are clearly Hispanic criminals, and yet STILL Texas calls them “white” in their description. See link below.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/texas10mostwanted/MostWanted/Fugitives

Further supporting my statement , even the nutty left Young Turks devoted a segment to Texas calling Hispanic criminals “white” people.

It difficult to square your figures with what we know about the malreporting of racial stats. Until recently, the FBI did not even have a category for Hispanics, and lumped them as white. Even now, (or at least the last time I checked) the FBI listed Hispanics as VICTIMS, but not as criminals.

Please note that in the study of 16 million tickets undertaken by the local TV station KXAN, 4 out the top 5 last names Texas claimed where “white” people were Martinez, Hernandez, Garcia, and Rodrigez.

You may have a point when you speak about war, but I am about as certain as I can be that the stats you used in your 2005 article are simply not correct. Hispanics commit multiple times more crimes than white people, particularly violent crimes .

Thank you Carlton Meyer! Finally, a sensible comment on the variety of violent crime rates in the Americas. 5 murders per 100,000 in the US; 85 per 100K in El Salvador (it has been over 100); in other south of the border nations the rates vary from low 20s to 60s. God must work in mysterious ways when the unvetted migrants come across the border illegally yet become immediately more peaceful and law abiding than native whites. Another way to look at this question: never believe statements based on statistics even when compiled by apparently rational people like Ron Unz. If you feel the need to delude yourself just start playing with statistics.

” But they know all Muslims are good people because Muhammad always says hello at the water cooler.”

That’s pretty much it. Inference based on a tiny, unrepresentative sample size. The nice Turkish guy (who grew up in Istanbul and who is relatively westernized) is now the exemplar of rural Syrians, Kurds, Afghans or Pakis. They are all the same, just people with slightly different beliefs and skin tones.

I’ve actually had a fun time bonding with Muslims at work. I find a way to point out the overwhelming Jewish dominance in the tech sector, thereby signalling that I am not a typical leftie. Then follow with some comments about what Israel is currently doing.

Many of the Silicon Valley muslims are seething at the way they have to be gay/trans/etc friendly at work, and even such indignities as having people bring dogs to work. All you have to do is start complaining about Jews and their perversion of morality and you’ll get to know the REAL Muhammed, Achmed or Kemal pretty quickly.

Jews are racists. Israel is a cauldron of Jewish Supremacist attitudes applied toward Palestinians, Ethiopians and East European Women, who are lured to Israel with legitimate job offers. When these women arrive, they’re forced to work as sex slaves within Israel’s thriving brothel industry. On a regional scale, they’re attempting to subjugate neighboring nations using U.S. Military Forces and/or U.S. Military Hardware. Ethiopian women in Israel are forced to be sterilized by injections, and their males are regarded as second class citizens. Jews are an insular tribe, whose pernicious greed, mendacity and treachery have combined to cause their ouster from each nation in which they’ve assembled in significant numbers. Israel is a safe house for Jews. Herzl understood the need to provide a refuge for the tribe. Unfortunately, Jews picked the wrong location to set up shop in the Middle East.

“So one thing that has *enormously* improved in CA over the last couple of generations has been the almost total disappearance of the sharp racial conflict that used to be such a major problem here.”

California might be able to sustain this trend for a while, but I wouldn’t extrapolate the same trend to other jurisdictions.

The odd thing about humans is that we are still animals. Animals, including primates, behave very differently in situations of resource scarcity than they do when they are constantly satiated. Orangutans, gorillas and other primates will be absolutely lethal to members of other groups when they are competing for food, but they will tolerate incursions by outsiders when they have sufficient resources.

California has a ton of debt and a ton of poorer people, but on the whole it is not a particularly poor part of the world. (Hence the large numbers of immigrants). Given its massive economic output, it seems to be able to sustain large deficits, for now.

Can every jurisdiction operate like California? Can we pack massively diverse populations into every corner of the planet and expect some tech utopia to emerge?

I wager not. Throw in a depression, disruptions to food/energy/communications infrastructure, etc etc. We’ll see a lot of these diverse areas change rapidly, because human nature will come back into play.

People tolerate differences as long as they have what they need, but as soon as they have to compete for resources they quicky find that being individualistic is suboptimal, and they gravitate towards people in their identity group.

I grew up mostly in Queens, NY (a very Jewish borough), was taught all the “holocaust” stuff, had neighbors who claimed to have lost relatives in it and believed it was essentially true. Until I found it it was banned in many countries to research it or to even question it. This made absolutely no sense to me, you can question how many people died in the Irish Potato Famine, the Black Plague, under Bolshevism, but this single event must never be questioned. To my mind, this means something is wrong with the numbers, the incident, or the people passing these laws. The more I read about it, the more convinced I became that the whole story must be a lie. If it had actually happened, all research would lead to the same conclusion, clear eyed scrutiny would prove the “deniers” wrong. Instead, governments throughout the world imprison scholars for investigating with an open mind. Why?

The principles of the Alt Right as articulated by Mark Green are clear and indisputable even in SV (maybe especially in SV). Look at the demographics that Unz himself stated. Also look at the suppression of free speech – I doubt it would have happened if SV was 90% White techies.

Types of Whites in SV:
– bugmen with no connection to history or their people.
– ambitious conformists who will sacrifice their people in order to advance their careers.
– futurists who see technology as ending all traditional human concerns.

Then of course there are the non-White SV types:
– mildly to extremely hostile to Whites. Mainly Jews but a smattering of others as well.
– comformists, don’t care about Whites. Mainly Asians but some Jews and others as well.

‘As Steve Sailer has pointed out what matters is who controls the Megaphone. And that’s a matter of power. If you want power you have to be prepared to not worry too much about ethical niceties. You have to focus on winning rather than on being virtuous…’

On the other hand, what does that lead to? The Bolsheviks and Nazis won power — but what did they wind up doing with it?

Revolutionaries can be not merely just as bad as the ancien regime — they’re usually worse. At least the old regime was constrained by a need to at least appear to be honoring the constitutional and religious niceties — nothing the Tsars ever did came close to the barbarities of the Soviets, and the same was true for the Kings of France versus the Revolutionary Terror. Wilhelmine Germany was an ethical paradise compared to the Third Reich.

So if you’re going to throw all ethical considerations overboard in your pursuit of victory, what will you have left to offer once you do win? Won’t you just be the same fist — but without the velvet glove?

Of course social and governmental conditions have effects on group behavior, but am i wrong to conclude from your Hispanic crime essay that with regard to blacks, it’s different?

There have been multi-ethnic, multi-racial and multi-lingual populations throughout history. They live more or less peacefully when there are barracks full of soldiers ready to break up the inevitable conflicts. Empires and nations always accumulate unsustainable debts and eventually can’t afford the policing. That’s when the ethnic slaughters begin. I fear that outcome in the US.

So if you’re going to throw all ethical considerations overboard in your pursuit of victory, what will you have left to offer once you do win? Won’t you just be the same fist — but without the velvet glove?

I feel you are definitely onto something here.

Having said that it wouldn’t be the same fist I am afraid.
You left race/ethnicity out.

How about the same fist based on race/ethnicity and you are the “other” with no power vs you are “ours” and we have power?

Choices, choices…..

Ron Unz provides a somewhat linear historical argument from the past to a fair rough characterization of the present, and then extrapolates a linear path into the future.
But the future will likely be one of abrupt nonlinearities and great overturnings. The current situation is unstable and ready to blow at any moment.
My personal bet is on left totalitarianism and death to those on the right, but, obviously, I would welcome other alternatives.
I find the historical complacency of the hosts take a bit bourgeoisie for reality, but who knows.
I would agree that AR cannot win using the race card, yet, I think they accurately predict their own racial persecution under the historical realities of multiculturalism.

Something did happen to Jews in Europe: A despot named Hitler gained power as the Chancellor of Germany. His goal was to purify the population of his country. Jews were among the undesirables Hitler vowed to send packing, and he cooperated with Zionists to effect that ouster of Jews. Many Jews took up the offer, and they emigrated to Palestine. Many Jews did not comply with Der Fuhrer’s scheme, and when Zionists burned their bridges with a Declaration of War against Germany, in conjunction with a worldwide boycott of German goods. those Jews became enemies of the state. They were heartlessly rounded up and forced to live in concentration camps as laborers. The allied campaign to decimate German transportation systems sealed the fate of those camp occupants, who gradually starved to death, or succumbed to several diseases that spread through Europe during the war, as supply chains were disrupted during the chaotic period preceding the defeat of Germany. What we’re shown as a deliberate effort by Germans to annihilate the Jews was actually the result of allied bombing and tactical missions to cripple the German transportation system.

This feels like it was addressed much more to the concerns of the Alt-Lite. The Alt-Right, certainly by 2017, was much more concerned about Jewish control of the country, ie was primarily anti-Semitic, and saw non-white immigration et al as secondary issues arising from control of the country by a hostile elite.

Great point.
For instance, Ryan Dawson doesn’t rail against Latino crime. The only offensive things he does are to criticize Israel/US foreign policy and question the Holocaust and 9/11 in as far as I can tell a very even-handed way.
Is this the kind of thing that looks insane to people in SV and why he’s been purged from YouTube, Vimeo, etc.?

The US Census Bureau has, in fact, reclassified Hispanics as ‘White’, and thus arrives at a situation where California is 72% ‘white’. It does have a separate line for Hispanics (39%) and for white non-Hispanics (37%), but the topline number combines most Hispanics into ‘white’ to arrive at ‘72% white’ :

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/ca

Ron, that is not a “stupid meme” That link directly to the Texas dept of Safety, current as of todays date, December 25, 2018. Note the dot gov address. It is not any sort meme at all, it is how Texas categorizes Hispanics as White RIGHT NOW.

Our disagreement is not with your conclusions. Our disagreement is whether the data sets you are using are accurate. I don’t believe they are, and it would seem that government sources support my conclusion. Including the last post from Thomas re: census bureau data, and how the US Census combines Hispanics and whites to come to a conclusion of “white alone” at 72.4% in California, when the real proportion is half that.

And on that note, I withdraw. Your site and your work is too important to get stuck on this issue.

Columbus’ diaries. There’s lots of works on them. Short summary at https://www.theodysseyonline.com/christopher-columbus-villain but I basically just searched for 2 seconds and posted the first link I found. Easy enough to research though.

“different universes” – SV (technology) and other “power centers” (Hollywood – movies; New York – advertising/finance; D.C. – politics) are indeed a different universe. Even though they have an enormous impact on the rest of the world, they are an extremely tiny portion of the world. They are representative of nobody.

” Based on the voting patterns” – Voting patterns means nothing. Don’t tell me you believe we live in a “democracy”. I have traveled far and wide in California and while I hardly discuss the topic with everyone, I have scarcely met people who approve of the state’s “sanctuary law” or that agree with “open borders”, yet, based on “voting patterns”, you would conclude an overwhelming majority of Californians support both policies.

“Voting patterns” in China indicate the Communist Party is hugely popular. So did “voting patterns” in USSR until 1991 – when suddenly the “voting patterns” changed. Voting patterns are a statistic. And you know what they say about eyes and statistics ….

Fundamentally where we disagree, is that I believe there is such a thing as “human nature”, call it “instinct”, and a very, very primal aspect of human nature is that people much prefer those who are similar over those who are dissimilar. No matter how much Communist propaganda the State throws at it, this does not change – because, it is human nature.

Open borders and sanctuary laws violate the most basic aspects of human nature (as does, for example, gay marriage).

Also I think this is why Californians are so miserable – because the more the propaganda departs from human nature, the more alienated people become from their inner selves, the unhappier people become.

I have no doubt California, as its current form of State, is going to fail miserably, as it is a miserable experiment in totalitarian thought control, just like every other Communist effort before it.

And please don’t start with the “Californians are enlightened” line. Look at the “polls” on how Californians feel about “Russian interference in the election” and other data, it is obvious Californians are just bleating sheep regurgitating the propaganda they are fed daily, just like everyone else. In fact Californians are particularly submissive sheep, they swallow the Bolshevik propaganda (whether it be trans-, “gay”, “immigration” or anything else) quicker than any other group I can think of. If the State ever collapses, you will learn extremely quickly what a fraudulent fig leaf this “manufactured consensus” is. It does not reflect reality but a deep fear of speaking “out of line” and being labeled and denounced.

Back to the immigration point: there are the “statistics” (voting patterns) and then there is reality. As I have noted, although about 40% of the State is White and 40% Hispanic, you rarely if ever see White-Hispanic couples (or even friends or business partners for that matter – certainly they are far far fewer than half of these relationships, which an unbiased selection would yield). That tells you all you need to know. Deeds are always more powerful than words or “statistics”.

Many Jews did not comply with Der Fuhrer’s scheme, and when Zionists burned their bridges with a Declaration of War against Germany, in conjunction with a worldwide boycott of German goods. those Jews became enemies of the state.

odd that it took so long between worldwide Jewry declaring war on Germany in 1933 and for example Kristallnacht – 1938

suspect we haven’t been told the complete history

Believing a single word that “Thomm” fellow says

Except I provide a Census Bureau link that corroborates what I said.

that he’s previously claimed that Irish and Polish people were not considered white in American society until around 1965.

No, I didn’t. You need to provide a link as proof.

But at the same time, do you deny that Jews are not considered white by White Nationalists, even to this day? Or do you think that they are?

No, you are *entirely* mistaken. That really stupid “Wanted Poster” meme-nonsense has been floating around the Internet forever, and is based on a total misunderstanding of the relevant statistical data.

Uhh, Ron… the dude you’re talking to does not care!

Look, you can believe whatever you want, but once you read my article, I suspect you may understand why you’re wrong and I’m right.

He doesn’t care!

Really, I find your lack of situational awareness quite amazing. You keep arguing with all these characters as if they actually care about what is factually true or not!

They don’t!

Well, that said, I have to admit that it has also taken me, in retrospect, a very very long time to realize this and similarly basic things. So what I say is hardly even that much of a reproach really…

Oh, and while I’m at it, I might as well point out that the reason the mainstream media (a.k.a. American Pravda) gets so many things wrong is most certainly not “laziness” or “incompetence”, as you always claim in your articles. Well, it would be if their real job was to find out the truth about whatever topic and inform us of it.

But it is not!

The main purpose of the mainstream media is not to tell the truth about anything any more than the purpose of the so-called “Justice” system is to impart justice.

Their primary role is to uphold the Establishment narrative. Granted, they might tell the truth about a few things along the way, but that is almost incidental, kind of like the “Justice” system might actually impart some justice once in a while.

I have wondered at times whether high IQ and high levels of formal, academic education and such actually impede people from understanding such basic things about the world in which they live.

Where you seemingly erred is majority that white cities, like Indianapolis and Columbus, that you used to favorably compare to majority Hispanic cities also have serious problems with black violent crime which artificially spiked the overall rate. The majority Hispanic cities also had much smaller black populations, so it really wasn’t an apples to apples comparison.

You would need to extract the black crime rate from the majority white cities then re-compare to the majority Hispanic cities.

If you did that I doubt the violent crime rates would be similar as you conclude in your analysis, and thus, “the myth of Hispanic crime” wouldn’t be a myth at all. Perhaps not chicken little levels of crime but definitely much higher than the white rate on a per capita basis.

Hope sprang eternally among Zionists, who had already campaigned for decades to frighten, cajole, convince and connive their European brethren to occupy their new Homeland. If Jews have one overriding characteristic, it is their tenacity. Notice each time a car engine backfires, Jewish Congressional Representatives drag out their now-yellowed Gun Control Legislation forms for immediate consideration? These people have been trying to disarm Americans for decades, but only recently have these (rather convenient…) mass shootings occurred in such frequency that we’re all expected to march our weapons to the nearest police station for confiscation. One other trait of Jews can be discerned here: They tend to exaggerate.

You really should provide some evidence that I “don’t care” about facts.

There is nothing to indicate that I “don’t care” about facts, since Iam referring to and providing links to government sources. Ron believes I am wrong about the issue. Who knows, I may be confused about my interpretation, but one thing I won’t do is lie, particularly when I am communicating with someone I respect.

Having said that, get stuffed, Shlomo.

‘There have been multi-ethnic, multi-racial and multi-lingual populations throughout history. They live more or less peacefully when there are barracks full of soldiers ready to break up the inevitable conflicts….’

They also live peacefully when there is a clear pecking order. See the Roman Empire, the Ottomans, Latin America, and the pre-Civil Rights South.

As I’ve said with what is becoming monotonous regularity, you can have equality or diversity; not both at once.

I see the “right” is very unhappy about the censorship situation but my impression is they are far from being alone in this regard. Anti establishment, anti war, writers of all sorts are also suffering. Just recently Patreon and Paypal dropped some youtube guy “Sargon of Akkad” and his sin seems to be having used the N-word in conversation where he was arguing against racism. Here is a video explaining the situation a little bit and judging from this Sargon wasn’t of the right wing variety.

Here is article from Caitlin Johnstone who is primarily anti-war writer (and would fit nicely along with Philip Giraldi here on the Unz Review) about facebook purge of hundreds of sites. At least some of them had nothing to do with the right or A.R.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-12/johnstone-were-trapped-orwellian-oligarchy

Finally here is interesting article from Matt Taibbi
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/facebook-censor-alex-jones-705766/

Short quote from Matt:

Many of the banned pages look like parodies of some paranoid bureaucrat’s idea of dangerous speech.

A page called “Black Elevation” shows a picture of Huey Newton and offers readers a job. “Aztlan Warriors” contains a meme celebrating the likes of Geronimo and Zapata, giving thanks for their service in the “the 500 year war against colonialism.”

And a banned “Mindful Being” page shared this, which seems culled from Jack Handey’s Deep Thoughts bit:

“We must unlearn what we have learned because a conditioned mind cannot comprehend the infinite.”

Facebook also wiped out a “No Unite The Right 2” page, appearing to advertise a counter-rally on the upcoming anniversary of the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Facebook was “helped” in its efforts to wipe out these dangerous memes by the Atlantic Council, on whose board you’ll find confidence-inspiring names like Henry Kissinger, former CIA chief Michael Hayden, former acting CIA head Michael Morell and former Bush-era Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff. (The latter is the guy who used to bring you the insane color-coded terror threat level system.)

So while I basically agree with Ron in his article I still think the personal views of the S.V. ceo’s doesn’t play much role in this game anymore. The stakes are too high.

With all this going on it seems to me the U.S. is ripe for new political movement. Granted my knowledge of U.S. politics limited but I think it’s possible to reach wide spectrum of followers from left to right on basic common sense issues. Like raining in the war machine, easing up on Israel support and creating more sensible foreign policy, fighting for free speech, tightening up the immigration situation, perhaps limiting corporate and banking power in Washington and so forth. Needless to say this requires compromise but the outcome could be very good in comparison to status quo for most Americans.

Perhaps the only possibility is doing this within the framework of the two party system. At least I see no option but to operate within the MSM and/or the big social media companies where the public grazes. The Alt-Right cant even get it’s running shoes on before it’s kicked off the public race track. I just can’t imagine how such movement can rally public support or gain influence. Let alone it’s primary focus on racial issues. How many voters want to see their political end-game play out in todays America?

The internet by nature will always contain opinions which are way outside the mainstream. So if that’s supposedly the problem then Ron is right — nothing can be done about it.

But if uncoordinated fringe websites can’t get traction, then the real problem is that there is no coordinated, intelligent movement to “redpill” the “normies.”

Quite a lot could be done on that front. For example, folks with persuasive skills, techical know-how, and hopefully some financial wherewithal, could be brought together into a Common Front with a uniform mission — to fight the toxic forces of anti-white racism and cultural marxism.

It would be a sort of high-tech mirror image of the Leftist Common Front of the 1930s. The point would be to put aside ideological disputes on the Right and focus instead on uniting conservatives, libertarians, and non-ideolical “pragmatists” in rejecting and reversing the creeping SJW rot.

It could be done. In addition to saving Western Civilization it could frankly be a lot of fun.

Very high average IQ of workers in the “good areas”, matched by earnings.

You keep arguing with all these characters as if they actually care about what is factually true or not!
They don’t!

For around 90 % of “Internet forums” communication, correct, of course.

The main purpose of the mainstream media is not to tell the truth about anything…

Their primary role is to uphold the Establishment narrative.

Pretty much.

As for

I have wondered at times whether high IQ and high levels of formal, academic education and such actually impede people from understanding such basic things about the world in which they live.

Not necessarily.
That applies to majority of people. Genetics I guess. Followers.
Being follower or leader has nothing to do with that in paragraph. Mostly genetics with occasional cases of experience, even traumatic experience. Interesting topic I guess. Didn’t O’Brien speak about that in 1984, for example?

In any group you have natural sheeple/followers, leaders and anarchists (for a lack of better word).
Probably 90/8/2 ratio.
And among leaders you have ..I’d say…..80 % sociopaths and psychopaths around. The rest are those “noblesse oblige”.

So…if you were a current TPTB all you have to do is recognize those anarchists and “noblesse” and, ahm, take care of them. Carrot and stick, in that order.
Isn’t that the name of the game as we speak?

My take anyway.

Lol. The normal engages in the three tasks that are

1) Acquisition, and mantainance, of material resources
2) Acquisition, and consolidation, of social ranking
3) Acquisition, and preservation, of a sense of personal worth.

As it happens, parroting (outerly, and in one’s inner monologue, innerly) the bullet list of truths designed publicized and given the semblance of being the consensus belief by the relevant part of the Chiefs’ workforce is instrumental to 1) 2) and 3), and particularly so for the demographics your comment focuses upon.

Generally, nearly the totality of truth and truths, professed or even just known, is the tallest obstacle to the three healthy pursuits.
If you so much as glance over psychiatry’s and psychology’s maintream texts, you’ll see natural effortless unconscious pretence championed as the quintessence of psychological health. (Of course all of it stated in tortuous duplicitous speak: the speakers are as healthy as the spoken-to.)
And boy, are they right… I know what life is like when you can’t pretend and deceive (you can’t reproduce, for starters, because even the woman oddly head over wheels for you will wind up loathing proximity to you lol).

The choice, going back to politics, is between alternative packs of untruths and élite groups.
It is immaterial whether one side starts by championing truths.
If 200 million Americans read the entire American Pravda series, got it and trusted it, the current order would be overturned, but once a new equilibrium would be reached, it’s not truth and truth champions that you’d have in charge, rather a new narrative weaved (and waved) by a new army of lying population managers.

I don’t believe that “software work” business for a minute. I think he smokes weed and masturbates all day. Oh wait that’s me.

Common front?
Soon as one character on the right, say Jordan Peterson, gains some cred among a wider-than-usual public you see other wanna-be-popular characters on the right demented by jealousy.

There is only a way to form a common front: enforced unity. This happens when one of the competing ambitious speakers manages to rise to dictatorial status, or when all the speakers are dependent on the same puppet masters.

Hispanics do a lot of unsavory things that they don’t actually get arrested or prosecuted for, hence they never show up in the official crime statistics; yet these things form part of the unofficial definition of that which, to a suburban White person, would likely constitute breaches of public order. There is a lot of petty dime-bag dealing, a lot verbal and physical harassment, a lot of graffiti, a lot of littering, disrespect for private and public property, drunken fistfights in the street at 2 AM because somebody screwed somebody else’s wife—things of that nature.

Then there’s also the fact that many Hispanics work in cash-and-carry businesses where they do not pay taxes, drive without valid licenses or insurance, skip out on their hospital bills, and can conveniently self-deport to Mexico in order to avoid serious trouble, where they are seldom pursued. They are adept at exploiting the technicalities of the legal system to engage in smarmy business deals. The emergence of a cholo rentier class with high-brow money and barrio tastes is one of the more revolting developments to ensue from this phenomenon.

In general, Hispanics are well positioned to take advantage of the system. They reap the benefits of the local polity without having any stake in that polity or any enforceable responsibilities thereto. They are like the spoiled bastard children of a rich man who are free to do what they please with daddy’s money, while the legitimate son and heir (White people) must bear the weighty burdens of upholding the family honor and protecting the family fortune.

Much of this stuff is not prosecutable in any practical sense; some of it is not even illegal; but that doesn’t make it right. It still violates everyone’s basic sense of fair play and creates the impression that Hispanics are getting away with something. The whole essence of public order is founded on the reciprocal rights and duties that the individual has vis-a-vis the commonwealth. Hispanics are cheating in this arrangement and everyone knows it, whether it is considered “crime” or not.

Percentage of socio- and psychopaths among the leaders bearing testimony to the inclinations and tastes of the followers. (Which seems too sour or too red of a pillow to swallow.)

“… futurists who see technology as ending all traditional human concerns”

That’s the subset that concerns me.

Trump’s ferocious attacks on Muslims, Mexicans, and immigrants in general? So far as I can recall, Trump’s objection has been to foreigners presuming to enter the U.S. over uncontrolled borders and becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers. It’s invariably leftists who love to flog the false theme that whites/conservatives/knuckledraggers hate “immigrants” which is a ridiculous position. Hate uncontrolled immigration and job theft? You bet.

The threat of having Sharia law imposed is hardly something that can be casually sloughed off.

I can’t seem to figure out how to post a photo here but I have one of a bunch of Muslims holding such signs as “Shariah for the Netherlands” and “Islam will dominate the world.” I see no reason to discount these Muslim sentiments or to assume they are some kind a fringe element of Muslims worldwide. Those in the picture are quite unlike those smiling, accommodating Silicon Valley engineers.

According to the reigning philosophy of this website, HBD, crime is genetic and not situational.

Revolutionaries can be not merely just as bad as the ancien regime — they’re usually worse.

That does tend to happen. But not always. I think Franco’s regime was infinitely preferable to the Spanish Republic. But Franco was a reactionary revolutionary, aiming not for radical change but to undo and prevent radical change. Pinochet’s coup in Chile was probably a net positive.

Of course I’m a reactionary so naturally I think reactionary counter-revolutions are a good thing.

The big difference is that progressive/liberal/marxist/anarchist/globalist revolutionaries have grand plans based mostly on wishful thinking. Reactionary revolutionaries want to go back to the old ways that were proven to work.

At least the old regime was constrained by a need to at least appear to be honoring the constitutional and religious niceties — nothing the Tsars ever did came close to the barbarities of the Soviets, and the same was true for the Kings of France versus the Revolutionary Terror. Wilhelmine Germany was an ethical paradise compared to the Third Reich.

Precisely. Which to me is a powerful argument in favour of reactionary counter-revolution.

So if you’re going to throw all ethical considerations overboard in your pursuit of victory, what will you have left to offer once you do win? Won’t you just be the same fist — but without the velvet glove?

A valid point, but if you lose you have nothing to offer at all. And the struggle for power is not a cricket match. If you know the other side is going to cheat there’s no umpire to complain to. You either lose or you learn to cheat as well. The struggle for political power is a dirty nasty business.

You really should provide some evidence that I “don’t care” about facts.

(Yawn.) As the bard said: “The lady doth protest to much.”

I spent (misspent) a couple of years on this very site interacting with people of your ilk and I’ve come to understand the corrupted intellectual process by which you guys operate. Basically, you have some narrative in your head that you’re emotionally committed to and then you hunt around looking for facts or data that support what you want to believe.

There is nothing to indicate that I “don’t care” about facts, since Iam referring to and providing links to government sources.

Well, sure, you rummage around in the official data but it has nothing to do with any pursuit of the truth. You decide what you believe and then go cherry pick some data to support that.

It’s a very corrupted intellectual process.

My own approach is the opposite. What I do when I research a question about which I have some prior beliefs or suspicions is that I try my best to find facts or data to prove to myself that I’m wrong. This sometimes causes me to modify my views but if what I already thought about the topic holds up, then I feel my belief is increasingly well founded.

For what its worth, you are correct, Ron. I live in W.Va. and seldom see Hispanics. And I live in a “city” (at least by W.Va. standards).

When 2-3 of the majority white cities in your study have almost three times as many blacks as most of the majority Hispanic cities that makes more than a marginal impact on the crime rate of the majority white city given the huge disparity between the white and black crime rates.

Obviously if Hispanics had the rather high crime rates you and others believe, this wouldn’t be the case.

Again, I’m not claiming that Hispanics have apocalyptic levels of crime, only that it is higher than the white crime rate.

The fact that Hispanics comprise 23% of the U.S. prison population while being only 16-17% of the U.S population pretty much proves the point:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/12/shrinking-gap-between-number-of-blacks-and-whites-in-prison/ft_18-01-10_prisonracegaps_2/

Whites are underrepresented in the U.S. prison system by a factor of 2. So Hispanic crime rates are roughly 2.75 times higher than those of whites when adjusted for percentages based on the demography of the prison population.

If Hispanics only comprised 9-10% of the prison population then you might have a point.

According to the reigning philosophy of this website, HBD, crime is genetic and not situational.

Yeah, I know. That’s the theory and if you have data that doesn’t match the theory, then the data must be wrong.

That’s the scientific method in action…

Obviously if Hispanics had the rather high crime rates you and others believe, this wouldn’t be the case.

Granted I find your research interesting, but you keep taking very select cases in particular circumstances and, it seems, generalizing way beyond their confines.

For example, do you deny that Hispanic cities like Los Cabos, Acupulco and Tijuana in Mexico, Caracas in Venezuela, Natal and Fortalez in Brazil, etc. (indeed, the 12 most dangerous cities in the world are entirely Hispanic cities, and if you look at the top 50, the vast majority are Hispanic, the rest are due to Black inhabitants) are vastly more violent than, say, Munich Germany, Rijeka, Croatia or Basel Switzerland (indeed, in the list of safest cities, there are a number from the Middle East, Europe and Japan, but only a single Hispanic city, Mérida, Mexico).

So will ask again: do you have any real evidence that your assumption that prison population statistics are accurate is true? Have you gone to randomly selected prisons and compared actual Hispanic inmate numbers versus reported Hispanic inmate numbers? Or do you have a (scientific) explanation for why Hispanics in Latin America are the most violent people on the planet, yet suddenly when illegally crossing the border they become the most law abiding?

Percentage of socio- and psychopaths among the leaders bearing testimony to the inclinations and tastes of the followers. (Which seems too sour or too red of a pillow to swallow.)

I feel you are onto something there. Especially that in the brackets.

Hispanics do a lot of unsavory things that they don’t actually get arrested or prosecuted for,

“They stink and they make me wanna puke!”

I can’t seem to figure out how to post a photo here

Ron’s software makes this counter-intuitively easy. The only issue is it has no be already hosted online somewhere. Just post the bare URL on its own line in the comment box and usually it will convert to visual form automatically.

Here is one I think you reference, making the rounds since circa mid-2000s:

original URL is

rashmanly.files.wordpress dot com slash [such and such] islam-will-dominate-world_gr.jpg

I have one of a bunch of Muslims holding such signs as “Shariah for the Netherlands” and “Islam will dominate the world.”

There are radicals of every stripe. The fact that a few radicals hold up a poster, that bigoted people paste anywhere they can, does not make for a movement. Heck, the Muslim Brotherhood can’t even gain power in Egypt, let alone UAE or Kuwait. Let that sink in.

You face a far greater risk from ethnic/tribal/racial extremists than Muslim ones.

The single greatest risk comes from the psychopaths in power, who are leading us straight to WW III with their greed, violence, intolerance and hate.

I have wondered at times whether high IQ and high levels of formal, academic education and such actually impede people from understanding such basic things about the world in which they live.

I’ve wondered the same thing. I think the trouble is that high IQ/academically educated people are very attracted by impressive-sounding theories. They like the idea that the world can only be explained by theories so complex that only high IQ/academically educated people can understand them.

Average IQ/non academically educated people don’t care about theories. They just look at the real world.

The threat of having Sharia law imposed is hardly something that can be casually sloughed off.

Uhh, actually, the threat of having Sharia law imposed is something that can be casually sloughed off.

(Like… on account of said “threat” being nonexistent…)

Bill Cosby has been alleged to have provided funds for the defense of the Zebra killers. And the idea of “safe” Black Moslem areas is the most deluded cuck sentence I’ve ever read. Is this person unaware of The Zebra Killers, Beltway Snipers, Yahweh Ben Yahweh, etc? And their internecine battles like Malcolm X being killed,the DC massacre of 1/73 and resultant Hanafi Siege of DC in 3/77? Wow. Peaceful Black Muslims like George Jackson?

I haven’t yet read all of your exchange with Wise, but I got a little bit past this self-misrepresentation of his:

“I am an anti-Zionist jew and always have been.”

There are only two ways to be a Jew: 1. By being born to a Jewish mother; or 2. Converting.

Neither is the case with Wise, who has stated that his connection to Judaism is via a Jewish paternal grandfather.

He’s not a Jew. He is a genocidal anti-Semite (“anti-Zionist”).

I have no idea why he would lie about being a Jew (to cover for his genocidal anti-Semitism?), and don’t really care. I deal with all kinds of liars, day and night, every day.

You seem in quite an amused mood today Unz. Happy holidays, and may the next year be as special for you as this was.

More and more people get degrees and what they still cheekily call “PhDs”, but whenever the chance arises it shows that they have never carefully read a text. They have learned some by rote memory, which is another thing altogether, but never read one.

This said, some memes are admittedly clever (and communicative), and there has been a higher character limit for tweets for some time now.
(Also, you seem not so good at understanding what the reach of even intelligent yet within normal levels of intelligence minds is like.)

Beltway Snipers – most like a psy-op to put pressure on Congress to give Bush and the neocons the green light for Iraq War legislation.

I see, it’s not actually me that “doesn’t care”, it’s some fantasy you have in your head. But I am just representative.

There are 3 government sites I linked, 1) New York Crime and Enforcement Activity 2017,

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2017-enforcement-report.pdf

2) Texas Dept of Safety Most Wanted, https://www.dps.texas.gov/texas10mostwanted/MostWanted/Fugitives

and 3) US Census, California

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/ca

2 Of these sites I did not “rummage around for” , rather I used sites that other posters referred to in this thread.

How about if you show everyone what I misrepresented in any way shape, or form.
Or at least be enough of an adult to shut the hell up. I know already that an apology is too much to ask for from an infant, so I will spare us both the indignity of suggesting you offer one.

Very well-informed comment.

I couldn’t find anything on Cosby and the Nation of Islam Zebra Killers–that would be explosive–but the media have for years protected the NOI. David Horowitz once dubbed the original Black Panthers “Black Murder, Inc.,” but that moniker fits the NOI much better.

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2018/02/black-supremacist-nation-of-islam.html

I can’t seem to figure out how to post a photo here but I have one of a bunch of Muslims holding such signs as “Shariah for the Netherlands” and “Islam will dominate the world.”

Which proves Muslims are dangerous and violent.

Of course you could easily find a photo of white neo-nazi nutters (or neo-Nazi LARPers), Which proves that white people are dangerous and violent.

Every race, every ethnicity, every religion, every political movement has its extremists and its nutters.

The threat of having Sharia law imposed is hardly something that can be casually sloughed off.

Uhh, actually, the threat of having Sharia law imposed is something that can be casually sloughed off.

(Like… on account of said “threat” being nonexistent…)

Unfortunately you’re correct. Personally I think Sharia law would be a major improvement for countries like Britain that are currently wallowing in moral filth and degradation. But sadly Sharia law for places like Britain is a very very remote prospect. There is zero chance of it in the U.S., which is even more unfortunate.

The high incarceration rate for these Caribbean Hispanics may partially explain general perceptions of Hispanic crime rates. A large proportion of America’s intellectual, media, and political elite lives in the Northeast, in cities like New York and Boston, and if the Hispanics traditionally living in those areas have unusually high rates of criminal activity, there would be a natural if mistaken tendency to assume that this same pattern also applied to Hispanic groups throughout the country.

It might also be a mistake to assume that non-Caribbean Hispanics will exhibit the same crime pattern. The most violent countries in Central America seem to correspond to the highest rate of Mayan ancestry.

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.gW-OOmDWBfih5dMS25c_hQAAAA&pid=Api

I’m not an expert on the region, and for all I know the Mayans may be the victims rather than the victimizers. My area of the country doesn’t get as many Hispanic immigrants as California, but I’ve noticed quite a few squat body types when shopping at Wal-Mart the past few years.

Most of the Caribbean Hispanics in my region are Puerto Ricans. I don’t know what their crime rate is, but they’ve been here for several generations and (with some exceptions, of course) are not following the same pattern of upwardly mobility that other groups of Southern European origin have.

Costa Rica is a Latin American success story. It has a pretty good government and relatively low levels of crime, but expats and tourists are still advised not to walk around San Jose flashing cameras or expensive jewelry. However, its credit card rates aren’t that much lower if at all from what they are in Mexico, with rates ranging from 24% to 50.4% annually. This suggests high perceived risk and default rates. I posted a few graphics on your other thread about Latino student loan default rates in Los Angeles. If this is more than just a transient pattern, it will ultimately harm our banking system and lower access to credit for everyone. We won’t be able to securitize the problem and export it to our vassal countries indefinitely. In the meantime, 400 million middle class Chinese are wearing sweaters in the winter instead of turning the heat on to save a few more yuan. Their saving rate is astronomical compared to the rest of the world. If it continues, their banks are ultimately going to have a lot more capital to invest than ours.

In summary, I agree that Trump has overstated the issue of Hispanic crime, but there are broader issues that we should be studying in considering the wisdom of allowing unchecked immigration from Latin America. The tendency to defer gratification or not is probably highly underrated, and like intelligence may not be entirely cultural.

Hahaha

Thomm is quite the kind of arrogant, pompous know-it-alls from (mostly)India and the subcontinent that legal immigration has brought upon us today! The trope of the arrogant argumentative Indian is quite the reality! You don’t realize the kind of toxic poisonous culture they come from unless you work with their likes on a day to day basis and they are a majority (in the office) .

I must admit they have certain qualities that enable them to raise moderately successful children in stable families. But such an upbringing creates conformists, which is why they have so many mediocre “engineers” but rarely a genuine genius who can think outside of the box. To their credit, very few (or no) drug junkies and homeless folks among their ranks in the US

Chinamen on the other hand are verbally not that loquacious and have been conditioned to keep it down. Although of late I am seeing some arrogance from some of them as well., it fades in comparison to those of the subcons! Some of them actually believe that they are a doing us a favor by bringing their skills here (along with their entire extended family) that we should be grateful for!!! The chutzpah!!

I see and deal with quite a few characters like them on an hourly basis. It just sucks. If you work in tech, you CANNOT escape them, no matter how far away from SV. Parts of Overland park(KS) is stuffed to the brim with them! And Memphis is following suit. 🙁

It was only after the Mexican-American war in 1848 that California finally became part of the USA, and up until this time vast majority of settlers spoke Spanish or were of Mexican heritage. This date was when the California Gold rush brought in hundreds of thousands of Europeans and Yankees from the eastern states.

Keep in mind, in 1848, it was easier to get to California from Australia than it was from Boston – more than just a few wallabies chased gold too.

One wrinkle I might add to the Hispanic crime question, is whether Hispanic crime has increased the White crime rate.

In particular, I am thinking of the role that mass Mexican heroin distribution played in the American opioid epidemic, as documented by Sam Quinones in Dreamland. https://www.amazon.com/Dreamland-True-Americas-Opiate-Epidemic-ebook/dp/B00U19DTS0

Basically, a whole new business model for retail heroin distribution — sort of like a franchise-based Dominos-style delivery service for heroin — was introduced by rural Mexicans (mostly from one from the rural Xalisco region). They deliberately avoided big cities where violent Black gangs already controlled the trade. Instead, they targeted small and mid-size, mostly white, American cities in the middle of the country that were virgin territory.

The Mexican workers operated in small groups filling phone orders from their handlers. They were just employees working for an hourly or daily wage and had no interest in watering down the product or haggling about price. They were totally non-violent and the whole point was to create a non-threatening, user-friendly mobile delivery service that was attractive to whites who would never think of driving into a ghetto to buy drugs.

For every dealer nabbed and deported there must have been hundreds of junkies created, each of whom likely went on to commit scores of minor, and not so minor, crimes due to their new status. Apparently, this change in opioid trafficking patterns was so huge that (along with the rampant over-prescription of legal opioids), it has likely shifted the country’s crime patterns significantly.

Interestingly, although no one seems to dispute the well-documented facts of Quinones’ book, this massive Mexican drug operation seems not to have gotten much play by Trump or the anti-immigration movement. (And, of course, for predicable reasons it is never mentioned in the MSM.)

In fairness though, the organizers and workers in these metastasizing drug distribution cells were not “immigrants” per se, but recruits sent straight from rural Mexico to do a job and then eventually return to spend their money back home.

Well maybe it should spread around evenly, and your neighbourhoods have quite the quota to meet.

My neighborhood is probably thee most ethnically homogeneous cities on the planet, and “they” would like to keep it that way – I don’t get to vote, and far lefties need not apply.

http://www.city-data.com/world-cities/Bangkok-People.html

a (scientific) explanation for why Hispanics in Latin America are the most violent people on the planet, yet suddenly when illegally crossing the border they become the most law abiding?

Thanks. I’d like to see this too.

The emergence of a cholo rentier class with high-brow money and barrio tastes is one of the more revolting developments to ensue from this phenomenon.

I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Woe indeed to the traditional ‘Anglo’ neighborhood which sees a wealthy Mexican widow move in. One of the houses will suddenly look like a circus attraction, only with more decorative debris.

@Ron Unz

At my public high school in the late 1970s in Orange County, CA, there were about 30 gangster thugs of Mexican descent who terrorized white male students with what are now called hate crimes. The beat-downs of white boys were traumatic and occasionally necessitated an emergency room visit. My school had a bad reputation, but I knew many other white males in San Diego, LA, Ventura/Oxnard, and Santa Barbara County who had the same experience in the 1970s and 1980s. This is not some outlier. Surely you must have heard of similar events–unless you lived a very sheltered existence or were lucky.

The white victims of this racial violence almost never went to the authorities. The threat of being gravely injured or murdered for snitching kept us quiet and living in fear–kind of like what you probably have seen in prison shows. These hate crimes never hit the statistical records, and I’ll bet that these crimes still largely go unreported. Half the country has been so dumbed down by PC indoctrination that many foolish white liberals rationalize their own victimization.

In fairness, the hate crimes were perpetrated by a fraction of the school’s Mexican and Mexican American population. It’s worth noting that there were no violent hate crimes by white people against the Mexicans or Mexican Americans at my high school.

You need to dig deeper than reading crime stats to get the whole picture of ethnic crime and racial hostility. Racial harmony in California is often superficial outside of the corporate walls of Silicon Valley. In your region, I suggest that you take a look at the videos of violence against white Trump supporters in San Jose the night of the Trump rally. The perps were local “cholos”. The victims were all white. Supporting Trump wasn’t the cause of the violence. It was a convenient pretext for the violence. On another night it would have been a different excuse for violence–for instance, they didn’t like a guy’s cowboy boots or whatever.

Does anyone actually want a scenario by which there are more K-to-12-age Mestizos resident in the USA than White ethnic-core Americans (Northwest European), on target for circa the 2040s?

The Los Angeles Unified School District has had less than about 15% White (at least at the High School level) for what seems like forever. Basically, Whites send their kids to the local elementary school but when they get to Jr. High (which is bused/integrated), it’s off to private or parochial school. Of course this applies even (especially) to the most liberal Whites. It’s a huge expense on top of the already insane property taxes.

But aside from this (not small) problem, the Hispanisizing of LA has not been the end of the world.

Hispanics may not be world-beaters in terms of motivation and ability but they really aren’t that offensive either. They come from a mostly Europeanized Christian culture, they aren’t resentful of whites, and they genuinely like American culture for the most part. We could do way worse — like the Africans and Muslims pouring into Europe.

Edit: Actually, one big problem I forgot. Hispanics do vote party-line for Democrats out here.

The theme of the Unz essay is that nothing has unraveled. But I live in S. California and every day I see time and again that life has unraveled; don’t get me started. This will get much worse. And, the decline will be contagious, affecting many pre-replacement people. This will beset the entire country. It will be fast. I must disagree with Saxon about “take our stuff” – -it won’t be all stuff — the replacement people will still want us to keep our seats in the airline cockpit.

LOL!

Considering that we must pay homage to our (((betters))) as is mandated by law here, change that to Sigmund Freud (Fraud??) award, to make it that much more explicit!

By the way, you have a good knack on puns as you seem to recreate puntastic punabrations of seemingly ordinary events. You’d make a good stand up comedian. Just don’t make fun of our (((leaders))) and you can start raking in the dough! A good (short term) career choice especially when you come from the hindoo capital of america, Edison NJ 😉 Not to mention all the dot pussy you’d be smashing considering how beta most of their men are. I dunno if you’d dig that though 😉

[you DO come from NJ don’t ya? What with your vast knowledge of their gods and godesses, the “housing scene” in the “garden” state etc]

<Most of the statues and monuments are Spanish soldiers and priests. Every once in a while some Hispanics go on a rant against Juniperro Serra whose statues are all over the state.

Maybe the Spanish names protect them. I don’t think there are any monuments to Dennis Kearney of the Chinese exclusion act, or Kit Carson.

The 12 or so victims of the San Francisco black Muslim Zebra killers were just the killings that became known. The California AG’s office estimated that in the early and mid 70s 271 Whites in California were randomly murdered by organized Black muslims.

Properly classifying prisons by their race/ethnicity is a life-and-death issue

Maybe so, but not having been in a maximum security prison in California, I have no way to know whether what prison officials put on paper has any bearing on what they do in practice. Indeed, numerous courts have ruled California’s racial/ethnic segregation to be unlawful, so there actually is an incentive to misreport prison population data to make things seem more integrated than they are. I don’t know the answer one way or another, yet you seem entirely certain; my question was whether this certainty of yours has been subjected to scientific inquiry or not. Your response seems to be, “question my methodology and get thrown off my website?” Strange, Ron, that response seems beneath you (or any social scientist).

The reason I am not convinced by your results is again based on the rather quixotic result that Hispanics, south of the border, are the most violent people on the planet, and somehow, when unlawfully crossing the border, they are the most docile. Perhaps you can give that some thought and either (a) find a scientific explanation for that, or (b) accept the fact that this creates an inconsistency that people will find troubling.

if you’re just too illiterate or lazy to bother reading it, maybe I should just trash all your future comments

Fair enough, I will find other places to spend my time. In general, though, it’s not considered necessary to read someone’s “book” to engage in an informal discussion with them. This isn’t a Hispanic Crime Conference filled with those who spend their life studying these things. If I were debating you on such a panel your critique would be justified; in this forum, it’s just hostile.

You’re absolutely right that crime is a young man’s occupation. And it explains the difference in incarceration rates.

On the other hand, California is now officially the least educated state. We have the highest percentage of adults who didn’t graduate from high school and the highest percentage of adults who didn’t finish 9th grade.

That’s because of the Hispanics. Some demographics drop out of school to go into a life of crime and perpetual unemployment. The Hispanics go into re food industry from planting and picking construction janitor etc.

If they later get a GED they get affirmative action government jobs

2014 to 2016 I had to go to the Santa Clara main courthouse in downtown San Jose several times a year. Virtually every man working in the courthouse except for the attorneys was Asian a few blacks and mostly Hispanics. Most were White hispanics but it’s the last name that got them the affirmative action job.

We can’t all be theoretical physics geniuses or landlords who don’t have to beg HR gestapos for jobs.

My only objection to non White immigration is that between affirmative action and skilled and unskilled cheap labor it doesn’t matter if a White, especially a White man is a Dr or dishwasher; the motto of America is no Whites need apply .

although about 40% of the State is White and 40% Hispanic, you rarely if ever see White-Hispanic couples

Do we have any data on this?

The power of Silicon Valley comes from it’s near monopoly status in 2 important areas of American economy namely enterprise software and digital advertisement. The red America has powers in itself to counter both of these if it wants. On advertisement, it’s pretty straight forward. Boycott products you see advertised on a platform like FB, red America is probably close to 50% of the buying power in this country and counts a lot, I bet FB comes to its knees in no time. On enterprise software its little tricky, the buyers are spread all over the country but the decision makers in corporate IT debts tend to be real liberal hard asses. Maybe a movement could be started to boycott a company at a time, starting with small and medium sized companies where the owners have more influence and control. The good thing in enterprise software is that almost every company has competition located outside of SV, unlike digital advertisement, while they may not be raging righties, they are not as loony lefties of SV either. Also unlike digital advertisement, none of these enterprise software companies have monopolies.

Ron, you know I love you, but you really gotta get out more and see the rest of our great nation. Your letter reminds me of the Boy in the Bubble wondering what all the fuss is about foods other than his mom’s nutrition cookies.

If I never left SE Michigan, it would be perfectly natural for me to see Muslims as perfectly good neighbors, teetotalers, keeping tidy homes and nuclear families, engaging in no street crimes or graffiti. Dearbornistan is as threatening as Frankenmuth – but with muezzin instead of glockenspiel. We have relatively very few mesoamerican invaders and those we do have are all seemingly employed. By comparison to the mini-Congo of Detriot, our mesoamericans are splendid neighbors who speak two languages more fluently than the Africans speak just one.

But our nation isn’t Silicon Valley or Metro Destroyit. These are extreme outliers in fact. Destroyit was the Silicon Valley of the 20th century and much of its vast wealth remains (although moved to Oakland, Macomb, and Washtenaw counties). You essentially live in post-Depression Detriot except your negro problem is across the Bay rather than across 8 Mile Rd. You live in a bubble.

You correctly see that the African is our most troublesome demographic, but because you’re so insulated from the trials and tribulations of the average white person in say Miami, you don’t appreciate what it means to become a stranger in your own land. You don’t have to learn a foreign language just to get a job as a retail store clerk or work in a warehouse.

I’m glad you wrote this because it does provide a great insight into the worldview of the Silicon Valley elites who now govern so much of our lives. When you don’t see a problem it’s terribly easy to believe that there is no problem. And if you don’t see it despite the fact that most of your columnists/bloggers and 99% of your commenting community laments it daily, think how oblivious your peers/neighbors are.

Take a sabbatical. Do the Linh Dinh thing and spend some time as an average Ron in the rest of the country or just live in LA or the Central Valley for a while. You don’t see how atypical Silicon Valley is until you see it contrasted to the rest of the nation. As for your neighbors, I have zero hope they’ll ever get their eyes opened because unlike you they aren’t even interested in anything outside their bubble.

So true. The best insight: scapegoating Mexico and Hispanics is itself a form of political correctness.

I think he’s doing it for money. First time I heard of him his speeches were advertised in Jewish community newspapers.
He claimed to be s former neoNazi heavily involved in plans to kill Rabbis and burn down Jewish buildings. He repented and was now atoning for his sins by warning Jews about the coming Nazi takeover. His speeches weee sponsored by ADL
It was a total lie of course. But millions of Jewish dollars poured into ADL

From the other side of the Atlantic it is not easy to see or understand quite well what’s going on in the USA.
That I was shocked when I read the wiki story about how in Charlotteville someone drove into a crowd of demonstrators makes this clear.
What exactly Alt Right is, I just have a vague idea.

But I did notice in 2004 or so in Florida how the USA there differs from the USA in the north, that is from Seattle to Minneapolis.
Speaking english in Miami leads to being ignored by spanish speaking people.
The USA of course began, after the original inhabitants had disappeared, one way or another, as a white colony, that later made itself independent of especially GB.
The USA aristocracy consists of those related to anyone on the Mayflower.
Having a far away ancestor who also signed the Declaration of Independence also makes you a real American.

This white supremacy now is challenged, by those of immigrant background, and those who, I suppose, expect to get political advantages through diminishing white influence.
Of course, the whites who see this happening, and foresee what will happen, resist.
There in fact is, in my opinion, not much diffference with the Hutu Tutsi conflict, the Algerian war, where the pied noirs had to flee, or the Tsjechs driving out the Sudeten Germans.
Where all this will lead to, I wonder.

Here in Europe more and more people understand how w’re losing our cultures, but, as in the USA, the Open Society Gutmenschen still are quite busy in keeping doors open, or even opening more doors, Marrakech.

About media

Now most sensible people somewhat weigh the reality presented in the MSM against what they actually experience in their day-to-day lives, and if there’s a sharp divergence between the two, they may gradually become suspicious of the MSM, and begin turning to alternate sources of information,

My doubts about our quality media began around 1994, the Rabin murder.
Until then I was behind the holocaust survivors, who clearly needed an own country, who had to defend themselves against Paletinians, just blood thirsty Arab terrorists.
But the murder of Rabin, after the Oslo peace accords, by an orthodox jew, 1994 or so, made me wonder ‘do these jews want peace ?’.
So indeed I turned to alternate sources, and discovered how I had been fooled for many decades.
Sept 11 was the next shock, by now the ideas I had before 1994 about history since, say 1870, have been turned upside down

We whites grew up in a world where white supremacy was not challenged, we felt so sure of ourselves that opening our countries for non white, and/or non christian immigrants, was the right thing to do.
Guilt feelings fed into the Germans since 1945 caused that the concept Gutmensch is a German concept.
Germans can be pardoned for their sins by receiving large numbers of immigrants.

From feelings of superiority, and ideals of a better world, to understanding that w’re under siege, is a near impossible change in mindset.
Yet, in my opinion, only this change can save European civilisation.
But, if the six percent whites can succeed in maintaining themselves, I’m not sure they can on their own.

Since reading recently
Gustave E. von Grunebaum, ‘Medieval Islam, A Study in Cultural Orientation’, Chicago, 1946, 1971
I concluded that Islam is incompatible with western societies.
Before reading this book I was not so negative about Islam.
Islam, as judaism, completely controls each individual life.

There is a weird consequence, in my opinion, the Islam as described in the mentioned book is a great help for us to withstand Islam.
Islamic society is static, as anything is already n the Quran, including science, Islamic society cannot adapt itself to changing circumstances.

Around 1900 the Ottoman empire began to change, industrialisation etc, but far too late.
Christianity was not much better than Islam, but the great advantage of christianity was and is all the different interpretations of what christianity is, in other words, we were used to debate, and forming our own ideas.

Yet, until Galileo christianity also succeeded in resisting change, scientific change.
The great misunderstanding about the Renaissance is that there never was a renaissance of technical change.
As far as I know there was far less technical development in Islamic societies.

Thorkild Schioler, ‘Roman and Islamic water lifting wheels’, Odense University Press 1973 describes ancient Islamic irrigation systems.
Driving in India in the mid seventies we could see all the described methods still in use.
It is fair to add that in the absence of cheap energy it of course was difficult to find new methods.
Nevertheless, the western urge to improve seems far less in Islamic societies.

Allow me to use your reference to the innumeracy problem as a hook to grab your attention.

Mostly so I can mention again Peter Thiel and his Australian lawyer (apparently my neighbour) Aron D’Souza as possible allies for you in the fight against deplatforming. Yours is a very big country and I was sorry to have to believe that even with your record you mightn’t be given the time of day by a Mark Zuckerberg or his senior executives. I hope you will consider Thiel as possibly a credible and welcoming alternative ally. (A silly idea maybe, but if I had D’Souza’s address I could probably knock on his front door and be let in…).

The numeracy hook that I mentioned followed from my lifelong, and undiminishing, amazement at the innumeracy of people who are supposed to be quite intelligent affecting almost everything important in the public sphere and almost as often in the private. Nothing to do with being humbled (as I was at 12) by reading about the young Carl Friedrich Gauss but just the problem with numbers and simple concepts like compound interest extending in my speculative view to the failure e.g. for Australian politicians and associated goodthinkers to ask elementary questions about why it is supposed to be a good idea to make the country with the world’s cheapest caseload power into just about the most expensive….

My speculative “Just So Story” is that our ancestors, for 200,000 years of growing up Sapiens didn’t need numbers. I remember reading of primitive tribes today – in Africa and Amazonia I think – who only count 1, 2, Many – though I can imagine they would sometimes flash their fingers to indicate “about 5″ or ” about 10″. I am not sure that it is a useful insight, even if it is a true one, but it should at least add strength to battles to counter innumeracy as if it were a fault as deep seated as Original Sin.

Good points. All Mexicans are open to Mexico being a Chinese and Indian country. They are not affilicted by the racism of whites.

Ron is right that it is evil for people to safeguard their culture. People need to view themselves as interchangeable otherwise they are nazis. Likewise, the desire to not prevent the destruction of the middle and working classes is a sign of racism. California has shown that the future is wealthy and poor classes. The middle and working classes better get out of the way because they are on the wrong side of history

It is not understanding, it is living in a different world.
Long ago, at the age of 18, any Dutch boy was examined for being fit for compulsory military service.
How the selection was made for those to appear as a group on a certain day, no idea.
But I remember quite well that I was shocked, shocked by what must have been a more or less representative selection of the Dutch population.
I met others who had had the same experience.
Living among the, say top three percent, according to IQ, population distorts your views.

I suspect that most of you have gotten so used to getting their information from stupid cartoon “memes” on 4chan or 140 character Tweets, they’ve totally forgotten how to read any serious text…

Maybe it is a consolation that Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010 writes that ‘hardly anyone nowadays can read an article of a few pages with intellectual content’.
In my opinion it is not ‘forgotten’, remember quite well how shocked my university professors were in 1963 about political interference with the education level.
A far higher % of students had to pass the exams.

The consequences we now see, my opinion, in the intellectual level of Dutch politicians.
What makes it even worse is Gresham’s law ‘bad money drives out good money’.
The three intellectuals among our 150 members of parliament are hated.
This recently led to critisising one of the three with the single word ‘bullshit’.
What made this even worse is that the man who used this strong argument had written a ph d thesis in physics.

My definition of a jew is ‘anybody who has the jewish identity’.
This identity is little more than ‘eternal innocent victims’.
My definition is not so unusual, the society of atheistic jews defines an atheistic jew as something like ‘he who feels he’s a part of jewish culture’.
The problem of ‘what is a jew’ is one of the problems about the six million figure.

His goal was to purify the population of his country.

His goal was to undo the Versailles injustice.

There was no Germany during the Thirty Years war.
It was created in 1871.

California overall is almost 40% Hispanic these days, heading towards an outright majority, and the top two leaders in the State Legislature are Hispanic, as are many of the other members.

The clear problem is that Mexicans vote in mass, for one party. California is already a one-party state. Mexico was controlled by one party for 50 or more years – NEVER well. The Indian Mexicans voted for the elite whites who suppressed them, for over 50 years straight. Something is major wrong, something that America does not need.

One party is no way to run a democracy. In fact, one party rule is not a democracy. That is a sure way to a becoming a dysfunctional dictatorial state.

Between the Jew MSM, an education system that refuses to teach America history, and the college educated white elite establishment – the Mexican immigrants are ill informed.

Look around the world – not every group of people can function in a democracy. It takes a select group of independent minded individuals with a fairness mentality to achieve democracy.

The American independence minded culture is worthy of saving. If it is swamped with unassimilated immigrants, it will fail.

Think Peace — Art

Ron Unz says that Trump style immigration restrictionism with very regular loud appeals to Americans of all colours and the occasional mention of proven higher ethnic crime statistics loses you Presidential elections but Hitler apologia, Holocaust denial and allegations that the Jews did 9/11 are the ultimate winning formula; especially among the Silicon Valley elite!

…he’s trolling you…

BOJ stats say Hispanics are incarcerated way out of proportion of their numbers..

…a year and a half old and letter already seems dated. e.g. “maybe the newly Neoconized Trump administration will get us all into some crazy nuclear war with Russia or China or both”; fortunately not. Hopefully, maybe Syria withdrawal may be sign of a newly un- Neoconized Trump administration; see if it’s followed up in Afghanistan.
Meanwhile, Silicon Valley-type issues have very little daily resonance in much of the rest of the country. Most other areas probably don’t want to become “almost 40% Hispanic… heading towards an outright majority.” However, it may be true that “Trump and his people were far too PC to ever talk much about black crime”, instead passing the First Step Act bill. And focusing their concerns on “some deadly threat of pro-Iranian terrorists and Islamic Shariah Law” is probably nonsense. But it’s unlikely that either Silicon Valley or the “alt-Right” fully “resonates” with the lived experience of much of the rest of the country. So you’re both probably talking right past us.

The *primary* problem is that Silicon Valley companies are slaves to the media and other pressure groups that target their advertisers/companies they sell their product or services to–basically, *outside* money that works to damage business interests if they do not toe the line.

In 1960 after existing for almost 200 years with the doors wide OPEN to Latin American immigration the Latin American pop in the US was about 6 million.

After having CLOSED the door to Latin American immigration in 1965 the Latin American pop of US ballooned to over 50 million in just 55 years.

Maybe we should OPEN the doors again?

Alt-rightists don’t want whites to become a minority in America. For them, the race of immigrants is a hundred times more important than their IQ or criminality. If people like Ann Coulter scare people with stories that exaggerate Hispanic criminality, I don’t think that bothers people on the alt-right too much.

It’s too bad academics are such goofs, I guess no one gets a full deck. Good essay Ron, let us know if you find a cure!

Average age is about 40. Same as average white age and much higher than Hispanic.

I already told you.

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_age.jsp

With all due respect to Ron Unz this is a total misreading of the issue.

The alt-right doesn’t base it’s opposition to 3rd world immigration on crime statistics. Rather the altright argument is that white people are a racial collective and as such their interests are not served by replacing themselves in their own countries with people of another race.

Mainstream conservative media like Breitbart base their opposition to hispanic immigration on the issue of crime because even admitting that white people are a collective with their own collective self interest is evil, nazi, racism.
The “third rail” of American politics.

Does Mr. Unz think that there are any valid arguments against massive Latin American immigration to the US?

The bottom line is that some of the things the Alt-Right has been saying for years are generally true while other things are generally false.

The globalist White Genocide Project is real. It’s beyond obvious to anyone with eyes to see and many of the culprits are gleefully admitting it in public. Knowing that, it’s impossible to overestimate the importance of revealing the plan and fighting back. The white race will either fully wake up or reach an existential event horizon within a decade or two.

Almost all the global Internet monopolies (Google, FB etc) have been set up from the start to monitor, guide and, if necessary, force globalist narratives on the goyim. Many of them have outright bought the competition or poured endless billions in the loss-making years in order to reach that monopoly status. You suggestion that the top brass in those companies – and the people behind them – are politically naive because their own surroundings are multicultural, rich and physically safe is… ridiculous. This might be true for most of the lower ranks and cubicle monkeys in the Silicon Valley but it’s completely wrong at the top.

#7

It’s like Obama birtherism, or 9/11 having all been staged, or any one of several such beliefs.

9/11 clearly, irrefutably was ‘staged’. Denial of such indicates either stupidity, denial, or deliberate deception.

Well, neocon and civic nationalist VDH actually lives in a Hispanic supermajority county. Arguably, what he is he describing is a failure of governance by the progressivist/cultmarxist state:
https://www.city-journal.org/html/do-we-want-mexifornia-12236.html

Not sure how you can be so wrong on this

Me neither. This gaping blind spot in his analysis reminds me of his claim that Bush and Cheney were uninvolved in the 9/11 false flag.

He’s a smart guy so this is perplexing.

Ron it is simple

No Internet online porn or online hate sites in 2019.They must be shut down to protect the new generation of kids using the Internet

Stop making excuses about freedom of speech.

2019 no more online porn or hate.Spread the word

I grew up in Florida, if you weren’t black you were white. Hispanics did not exist until the court order making Hispanics a protected class. I have known far too many people who can’t get a job because they can’t speak Spanish. Once you get a critical mass of Latino’s both legal and illegal they refuse to deal with non Spanish speakers. This is something the black community has been complaining about for decades in the Miami area. I have been told many times I need to learn Spanish. I work with a lot of refugees. Nice people and very aggressive. They had to be to get here. They want my job and they will work as a group until they get one of their people in. They will work as group to get politicians eating out of their hands all the while complaining about the white racists. My property taxes go about 10% a year. In Texas that is mostly for education and it prevents me from retiring. A lot of the money goes to teaching kids English or for school lunch programs programs that go on year round. For the schools to pass EEOC muster so many Hispanics and so many blacks have to pass. This means the Non-Minorities get short changed.

I not against immigration because of the people involved, it is because they are taking money out of my pocket and preventing me from enjoying the fruits of my labors.

I could go on for while but I want to point out that while I am considered White my parents weren’t, they were Irish who grew up in New England. They had to contend with ” No Irish Need Apply” signs. My mother couldn’t get into the Sorority she wanted to because she had the freckled skin. I work with a large number of people of Mexican descent, and a lot of them consider themselves white and don’t like be called hispanic and they don’t want the illegals here either because they destroy the neighborhood.

Despite what Revusky claims upthread, I think that innumeracy and extreme laziness are the main problems with most of the commenters on this thread.

Well, my comments above do not pertain specifically to this thread. They are based on several years of participating in these discussions off and on.

In that period, I finally came to the realization that most of these highly ideological people do not care about factual truth the way I do. They mostly care about crafting some narrative that gives them emotional satisfaction. If the facts get in the way of that, then so much for the facts.

Basically, I can tell you, based on my extensive experience here, that your assertion is wrong. I can say with absolute confidence:

The willful obtuseness that you are running into in these sorts of conversations is not primarily the product of “laziness”.

I reckon you could save yourself a lot of aggravation by realizing this at long last.

Forget the specifics. Why should whites want to live in Mexico Norte?

Allow me to point out pedantically that you are using Gresham’s Law in the lazy popular way. Let’s keep it for what Gresham identified and prefer some other popular clichéd for what might be called “A race to the bottom”.

“Admittedly, some of the renaming nonsense did recently spread to ultra-liberal Palo Alto. Some ultra-PC immigrant from Sweden was horrified to discover that two of the local middle schools, Terman and Jordan, were named after pro-eugenicist academics from the Stanford of a century ago, and despite opposition he stampeded the Palo Alto school board into voting to rename those schools, but although it’s ridiculous, it’s not exactly the same thing as what’s been happening with mobs attacking those those statues in New Orleans and elsewhere.”

The above quoted paragraph tells a most important truth that I have stressed with people since well back in to the last century: the problem always starts with white Liberals and Radicals, and white Libs and Rads always make non-whites, even the leaders of non-white radicalism, worse. Always.

Steve Sailer sees it very much as whites playing virtuous oneupsmanship: I am the most moral and virtuous because I care most about uplifting the poor, victimized, nearly helpless blacks and browns (these whites stopped caring about red people a long time ago and now must move around desires to blame bad yellows for harming their beloved pet blacks and browns).

Anybody who thinks there would be even a whiff of a movement to tear down Confederate statues or remove Confederate flags if all white Libs and Rads were removed is at best an ignoramus.

“No Irish Need Apply”

Unless you are a 90 year old WASP from New Hampshire how could your parents have experienced that?

Environment > Genetics > Culture > Institutions > Politics > Society.

Gresham seems to me far a better analogy than ‘race to the bottom’, an expression I never understood.

Forgive me as I offer a different opinion;
My first observation, is that long before most people even heard of the “alt right”, Facebook and Silicon Valley were busy trying to get Obama elected. Not because they rejected the alt right they never heard of and not because they objected to the platform McInsane was running on, but because they are marinaded in left-wing extremism, and have a false sense of their own intelligence, due to accomplishments that have been awarded with unfathomably disproportionate amounts of money.

Silicon Valley took their first hard look at themselves after Brexit.
But it wasn’t until November8th, 2016, that they all joined in lockstep to make bazillions of dollars in illegal in- kind political donation, via selective censorship. Oh and by and deviation from formerly unbiased algorithms for search results and search prompting.

While there seems to be no laws that protect free speech in the internet public square, I wish and hope that Silicon Valley is forded to surrender billions for their unfair competition. As many of, if not ALL websites, and political opinions being censored, are actually businesses being unfairly and unlawfully discriminated against.

The Robinson-Patman Act and other anti trust laws protect business from this discrimination. Both for card processors – paybuddy type services and advertisement revenue services. While the strict wording of the law only applies to physical commodities , the courts have upheld that less tangible things are commodities.

Yeah, lol, I was waiting for a punch line, tips on the stock market, sage advice to the censored but got nothing.

not primarily the product of “laziness”.

What’s in a name ?
Rearranging, with bringing in new, and deleting old, the contents of one’s head, in my experience is quite a job.
Far easier not to change anything.
Sept 11 for me is THE example, realising that the Bush story is nonsense has as consequence reconsidering the whole of USA history since FDR.
Laziness may not be the right word for refusing to do this, but it has something to do with a great intellectual effort.
Of course there are other, more or less understood, consequences, herds want consensus, dissidents run risks.

My observation is that many of the comments from the “alt right” are more about “culture”, than race.
And many more comments are about disagreeing with the Republican swamp. Most often this disagreement is about wars, or never ending spending, or free trade.
And of course Israel.

Ron, I have never lived in CA, though my kids do, but I have been visiting there for exactly 50 years, and Caliifornia has gotten a lot worse during that period, pretty much across the board…It has gotten worse financially, politically, educationally and environmentally…e.g.Beautiful areas on the south coast have been overrun by developers..California schools, both secondary and University, have been overrun by cultural Marxists..Most cities are facing bankruptcy due to the costs of pensions, healthcare, and the flocks of illegals and homeless who have been invited in by your politicians..I don’t see any area, apart from the jobs created by software development, that has not deteriorated…Please explain to me why I am wrong….

Sharia law threat to the West is a nonsense.

No, it’s not. There is virtually no resistance at the top to the imposition of shari’a on us. Consider this incident, in which a Muslim professor at the University of Connecticut demanded that students take their shoes off before entering his office and that they say “Bismillah”:

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11025

That would have been unthinkable when I was young, either because our elites were Christian and resented anything non-Christian or because they were secularists who strongly believed in the separation of religion and state. Today, it can happen because resistance to anything Islamic is very weak among our elites.

It is easy enough to imagine that twenty years from now, things will be even worse, that there will be immense pressure for everyone to convert. “It’s the least you can do after all the oppression our country has inflicted on Islamic lands.”

american white males are too intimidated by the police state and potential imprisonment and prison rape to be really revolutionary …french white males are not as cowardly…see e.g., the recent yellow vest riots where french white males rolled out mock guillotines, effectively telling their elites ‘obey or die’…americans are so bound down by fear of the legal system, they are powerless…they even fear to subvert the race preferences system by claiming nonwhite ancestry, something they could do without fear of reprisals….but they are like domesticated livestock…

me, I say that elites must hang from ropes…it is not illegal to say that ….in order to be illegal it must be specific and imminent…and that is not the case here…

I agree that many modern revolutionaries are not near the center of the bell curve with respect to mental hygiene…so what? They have less to lose and they have suffered many frustrations….so therefore are more likely to rebel…

In Ireland, there seems to have been 2 or more kinds of IRA (Irish Republican Army) freedom fighters / terrorists. The one was the genuine kind created to free all of Ireland of British rule and the other kind was created by the British themselves to draw support from the original organization and so nullify the actual threat; to subdue, subvert, confuse, divide and rule so to speak. It really seemed like there were SAS missions in support of all the different IRA’s at different times, very confusing.

So now you have the right wing and the alt-right. The alt-right was created by the powers that be to draw support from the right wing proper, to subdue, subvert, confuse, divide and rule all those who might lean to the right wing proper. So its the alt-right’s job to sprout some right wing proper views every now and then, but its also their job to come across as being nuts and over the top, like clowns, very entertaining, very distracting, so that no-one will take any traditional right wing viewpoint seriously.

So the alt-right is just counter revolutionary tactics.

Perhaps, you prefer to be the bitch of a big black bubba…

If we don’t make earnest moves toward real solutions, then each day we move one day closer to revolution and anarchy in this country. This is the sad, and yet potentially joyous, state of America.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan

Trump Stops Giving a Damn, Says Shutdown Will Continue Until Wall Funding

Look, if you weren’t so *totally* lazy and had actually read my article, you’d realize that you obviously needed to adjust incarceration rates for *age*.

I read it awhile ago and it’s so long and meandering I’m not going to torture myself again. While it has its moments it’s pretty clear you have an agenda you’re trying to promote and prove that black is white. Well, brown is white.

Youngish males commit vastly more serious crime than older people, and Hispanics and whites have *entirely* different age-distribution curves.

That’s not really a revelation, but the typical white American doesn’t give a crap about age distribution curves. When Hispanics bring higher crime, gang activity and drug trafficking to a white locale the locals don’t console themselves with your article and the fact that the brown interlopers will likely outgrow it in twenty years. And even if they do outgrow it they reproduce and the crime cycle starts all over again.

I could prove that black crime rates are approximate to white crime rates but would have to pull an Unz age distribution curve sleight of hand and throw out all crime committed by blacks in the age ranges of 12-50.

Maybe you should just go back to just looking at all the cartoon frogs on 4chan…

I’ve never been on 4chan but apparently you have.

I recommend readers rely on Jared Taylor’s The Color of Crime which is far more credible than anything you’ve written on the subject.

Why lying at all ?
Of course, there can be mistakes, new facts may lead to different insights, but deliberately writing lies, very stupid, in my opinion, descending to the moral level of most opponents.
European culture to a large extent is making the experiment the arbiter of truth.
Experiment is not just dropping a feather and a piece of lead in a vacuum flask.

Experiment also is looking at facts in society and history.
When Europeans are blamed for atrocities, why deny them ?
They did happen, as you read in books as
Ian Hernon, ‘Britain’s Forgotten Wars, Colonial Campaigns of the 19th Century’, 2003, 2007, Chalford – Stroud
Hugh Thomas, ‘Rivers of Gold, The Rise of the Spanish Empire’, London 2003
Stan Hoig, “The Sand Creek Massacre’, Oklahoma, 1961, 1982
Adam Hochschild, ‘De geest van koning Leopold, en de plundering van de Congo’, ( King Leopold’s Ghost. A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa, 1998), 1998, 2003, Amsterdam

The Dutch writer Douwes Dekker in the 19th century under the nom de plume Multatuli severely criticised Dutch rule in what now is Indonesia.
There is no reason to be proud on how we ruled there at the time.
But fact is also that our rule there at the time was nothing unusual.

The commie/liberal-leftist/rightwing liberal (neocon) bunch took over this country without worrying that they were telling lies or behaving like lunatics. What’s this – follow the 10 Commandments and all will be well?

For the Anglo-Saxons (and all white Christians), the questions are these: whatever happened to the country our forefathers fought for and built? How did the Middle Eastern Jew came to control the country? How did a negro become president? How two dotheads became heads of two of the biggest tech companies? How did the chinamen came to dominate Caltech? How did Spanish became the second language? How did we lose Florida to the Caribbeans? How come we don’t give billions in aid to poor White-Christians in Europe instead to Israel? How did millions of Muslims snuck in? But most of all, how do we take it all back without firing a single shot? We’re thinking!