Was there ever a Russian geostrategist who wanted to export 500,000 Eurasian tribesmen (i.e. Uzbeks, etc) to Alaska and then use it as a springboard to seize Western Canada and US?

It was in a novel I was reading (Tai-Pan), and while I don’t think it is practical (how much steppe is there on the Pacific coast? How would Russians dominate these warriors?), I thought it was impressive in scope.

Indian horsemen caused a lot of trouble, but they didn’t have numbers. Maybe, you could feed wood foliage to horses?

In the novel, it wasn’t clear whether it was supposed to be a fake plant or not.

Dropped 15lb + one side of the bar on my big toe.
Next day literally 0 pain – still buddy taped so haven’t checked swelling.

How long till I can run? Plates were rubber coated.
A metal 10lb plate broke my R Big Toe couple years back, this is left this time..

:/

Also –

Two thousand and eight was the year Ukraine got closest to joining NATO, and it is also the year when NATO members decided Ukraine was going to join someday (ie never).

Use a power rack or you are going to get a bar on your face and be gumming oatmeal for the rest of your life.

I do – was doing wrist curls w/ fat side of bar.

https://treadmillfactory.ca/products/xtreme-monkey-landmine-ball-handle-attachment

Felt em more than with the cannonball handle linked above.

Will only use that now I guess since time off training sucks!

To broaden the horizon of this OT, I offer — Every Style of Beer Explained

PEACE 😇

The most Apartheid country on the Mediterranean — LEBANON (1)

“The procedures and restrictions imposed on the entry of building materials into the Palestinian camps in Lebanon are in contradiction with the principles of human rights.” — Hassan al-Sayyida, a researcher and human rights activist at the Palestinian Association for Human, palinfo.com, July 10,2023.

This is the second case within a year in which a Palestinian has been arrested on charges of a “construction violation.” On July 28, 2022, Lebanese authorities arrested another Palestinian woman, Amal Mousa, also on the pretext of building a house without a permit. Mousa was released only after she was forced to demolish the foundations of her house.

Palestine refugees in Lebanon face substantial challenges to the full enjoyment of their human rights. They are socially marginalized, have very limited civil, social, political, and economic rights, including restricted access to the Government of Lebanon’s public health, educational and social services and face significant restrictions on their right to work and right to own property.” — UNRWA, reporting that the Palestinians are still prevented from employment in 39 professions such as medicine, law, and engineering.

“Palestine refugees consistently report experiencing discrimination in hiring practices and opportunities for employment. They are faced with informal restrictions on the types of jobs and industries they can be hired for due to additional bureaucracy around contracts and work permits, and discrimination…” – UNRWA.

Why is Islam the religion of Apartheid?

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19807/palestinians-apartheid-lebanon

Dumbbell Pullovers are dangerous though.
Love the stretch on lats & serratus though.

Use them on Upper days for chest/long head as well.

Gotta be careful though lol.

DB Fly/barrel press felt weird so just pullover now.

ਅਕਾਲ

Dmitry was saying Apostasy is high among Muslims in West:

Turkey applied to join EU in 1961 (?), maybe it will happen someday…probably not.

Ukraine can join Nato if they decisively win the war: Moscow occupied or with a Western-appointed government – Nuland thinks she is good at appointing.

More likely, the war will end with Kiev losing and the rump-Ukraine may try to still get into Nato and the whole circus will start all over again. What are they giving out in Nato? Free cookies? Never have so many died so pointlessly for a membership in a “club” that is about buying weapons, seminars, bombing small countries, and then buying more weapons. That should make for some interesting epitaphs…

When Kiev capitulates, one of the terms will be “No NATO”. So, that door will be nailed shut.

Will a smaller Ukraine in desperate need of reconstruction be allowed to join the EU? That would permanently shift money away from other EE members. Such an idea should be vetoed. However, irrational #NeverPutin hatred causes certain countries act AGAINST their own enlightened self interest.

PEACE 😇

Rump Ukraine will eventually join the new, noncontiguous Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

By then membership in the EU will not be so exciting, but the new Confederation of Baltic Peoples will be a good thing for those countries who can meet the requirement: deport all of your third world immigrants who are not able to live by civilized rules, i.e. 95%.

For the weak and ambivalent: remember the Vikings! Icy places for ice people, sunny places for sun people. Whoops, I mean sunny places for ice people vacations!

Why are Russians fleeing Crimea?

Maybe Scott Ritter could go out there with a bullhorn.

MY FELLOW RUSSIANS

THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

AS I EXPLAINED IN MY LAST YOUTUBE VIDEO THE OFFENSIVE IS OVER

Poles and Lithuanians haven’t been so cozy with each other as is true with Poles and Ukrainians. Mutual hatred of Russia has limits given that Russia isn’t evil as made out to be, along with the other non-Russian animosities.

https://www.eurasiareview.com/17072023-nato-summit-aftermath-oped/

That same blogger seems to suggest that Russia’s military build-up on Ukrainian border could in fact lead to de-escalation which is something the Russia haters didn’t consider.

In response to the increased Ukrainian government military presence near the rebels, Russia’s armed buildup along a portion of Ukraine’s northeastern border and stern statements, have sent a clear message that Moscow will not stand idly by in the event of a Croatian Operation Storm like move. The Ukrainian government could very well lose additional territory in a military confrontation with Russia.

Russia’s response seems to have paved the way for a possible de-escalation of tension – something that the CNN segment didn’t bring up. Confrontation with Russia is in line with a sensationalist media, influenced by neocons, neolibs and flat out Russia haters.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/15042021-cnns-blatant-disinformation-about-russia-ukraine-activity-oped/

Those stupid Russia haters didn’t consider that a Russian military build-up could be a sign of peace.

Russia has had such a positive relationship with their neighbors the last 200 years. Why ever would they assume malice?

Lithuanian hatred of Russia is probably exaggerated by CNN. The two countries were the bestest pals after WW1. Lithuania begged to join the Communist experiment since it had been a phenomenal success in the 1930s. Stalin said FINE I’ll let you in but you better bring punch.

You’re assuming that Kiev will ever capitulate lol.

Rump Ukraine will eventually join the new, noncontiguous Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

Why noncontiguous? Poland and Lithuania do (barely) have a common border, after all.

More likely, the war will end with Kiev losing and the rump-Ukraine may try to still get into Nato and the whole circus will start all over again. What are they giving out in Nato? Free cookies? Never have so many died so pointlessly for a membership in a “club” that is about buying weapons, seminars, bombing small countries, and then buying more weapons. That should make for some interesting epitaphs…

Millions of Poles and Jews died because Poles opposed the reunification of a 95+% German city (Danzig) with Germany, a city that Poland didn’t even control but was instead run by the League of Nations (though Poland could threaten to go to war if Danzig moved to unify with Germany, hence Germany attacking Poland).

Here’s what I think is an interesting question for entomologists: why do mosquitos seem like the most annoying of the biting flies, by far? (Allowing for local exceptions, based on environment or time of year)

Kiev will soon be too broke to fight. The grain export deal is done. Train transport is not cheap and EE nations are protecting their nearby farmers. Where will the €uros come from?

It is not hard to forsee what is coming. Zelensky will flee to his puppet masters (Scholz & Macron). The new destitute Ukrainian government will not have the wherewithal to continue aggression against Russian ethnics.

ROTFL… If you do not like the term ‘capitulate’, feel free to substitute an alternative term for inevitable Kiev submission.

PEACE 😇

Mosquitoes inject an anticoagulant when they begin to draw blood. This causes a disproportionate response from the human immune system. Thus, the after effect is far more dramatic than other critters extracting a comparable amount of blood.

PEACE 😇

His puppet masters…lol. You Jews.

It was a bit more complicated. But in any case it nicely highlights the incredible self-defeating stupidity of the Poles, they dig a hole and then celebrate that they got themselves into a hole. I can’t figure it out, maybe it is the mushroom soup. (I don’t think the Polish Jews had much of a vote.)

Ukies seem dead-set on being the Poles numero dos – the ultimate self-sacrificing tribe that only needs a half-hearted pad on the back from the grinning Anglos and off they march. That’s how imperia are built: on the bones of the gullible, the ones who have too little self-awareness, the ones always eager to please the boss. The boss lives elsewhere.

Zelensky is a post-Judaic apostate. His puppet masters are anti-Semitic Islamophiles, not-a-Jew Scholz and not-a-Jew Macron. The groundwork goes back further to Dhimmi, not-a-Jew, Angela ‘Mutti’ Merkel — The incredibly, totally, 100% non-Jewish originator of Great Muslim Replacement ideology.

The truth of Kiev’s failure is the tale of European led IslamoGloboHomo. Muslims arranged this conflict so that Judeo-Christian Ukrainians and Judeo-Christian Russians would kill each other.
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Every time you mis-allocate blame to Judaism, you willingly serve the Anti-Christ Muhammad and Satan/Allah/Lucifer. As a Christian, I oppose your Satanic actions & Taqiyya deception.

PEACE 😇

Top Ten List of the Reasons why Russians are Leaving Crimea

10) Kids keep trying to ride British underwater drones
9) Grain Embargo means no more vodka
8) Demining the beach less fun than watching paint dry
7) Zelensky is giving free piano lessons
6) NeoNAZIs armed by NATO are looking for blood and human sacrifices
5) Driving up to Kharkov to join in the mayhem
4) Clearing out ahead of Wagner troops taking a “beach weekend”
3) Dragon’s teeth causing tan lines
2) Crimea is in a war zone
1) Beach vacation trip is over

Yes, thanks. I was thinking of Ukraine and Lithuania.

This could be an interesting avenue of thought if you just pointed out the obvious fact that NATO is anchored in the Black Sea because of the inclusion of the Turks in NATO as the largest army in Eurasia. Turks ought to hand back Constantinople to Greece and go back to the Caspian Sea.

Where you are going with France or Germany as pulling Zelenskyy’s strings instead of the other way around is just Jewish sleight of hand. Zelenskyy is the Jew King of Kiev and his demands are always met.

Everyone sees through your deception. Why do you continue to lie for the Anti-Christ Muhammad after you have been caught?

Post-Judaic apostate Zelensky is not a current practitioner of Judaism. Was he ever? He serves the Islamophile European Empire, much like — Not-a-Jew Scholz, not-a-Jew Macron, and especially, not-a-Jew Angela ‘Mutti’ Merkel.

Only a Muslim, such as yourself, would deploy Taqiyya slight of hand in a failed attempt to blame Jews for Islamic actions. Fortunately, you are a very poor Muslim deceiver.

PEACE 😇

So with the bridge thing, obviously I am saddened by the loss of civilian life but I do regard the bridge as a legitimate military target.

That said, it is going to prove militarily and politically meaningless and yet you again see NAFO celebrating like they just conquered Moscow. The western pro Ukrainian contingent may be the most vile group of people I’ve ever come in contact with. I support Ukraine 100% in this war but I truly do hate the bulk of Ukraine’s supporters. Like, I really fucking despise them. I have talked to other pro Ukraine Westerners who have agreed with me that their is something deeply sinister, almost satanic, about the Western pro Ukraine movement. Although it must be emphasized that this is neither the fault nor the responsibility of Ukraine or Ukraine’s non satanic supporters.

I still believe the offensive in the south is failing and even the Ukraine shills aren’t pretending that UA forces are accomplishing anything in the east. What the Ukraine shills are currently saying is, “yeah we’re taking losses but we are also knocking out all of Russia’s artillery”. Ukraine says that they are taking manpower losses at a 1:1 ratio and that they are knocking out Russian artillery at an 1:8 ratio. Both of those numbers can safely be dismissed out of hand, but given all the vids we’ve seen of Ukraine knocking out Russian artillery and the whole situation with Popov, I do believe that the Ukes are successfully attritting Russian artillery. I’m just not convinced that they are attrititing it nearly enough to make a later breakthrough possible.

A Russian counteroffensive towards Kubyansk-Lyman appears to be in the works for the coming month. It’s not clear whether the operation will be successful or not, but at this point I would have to imagine that it will fail.

Wokechoke is an alienated, working class Chav. Possibly with some Irish ancestry. I don’t know where you got the idea that he’s a Muslim, he doesn’t even like Muslims

Mutual hatred of Russia has limits given that Russia isn’t evil as made out to be, along with the other non-Russian animosities.

You’ve been doing pretty good the last year or so, but this one is getting very close to being a genuine “averkoism”. The first part of the sentence is fine, it’s the second part following the comma that is traversing slippery grounds. What are you actually trying to say here? People have a poor image of Russia because of some “other non-Russian animosities”. You mean there are some negative connotations about Russia that people have because of some foreign impugned negatives that don’t in fact really exist? I think that’s what you’re trying to say??….

Anybody else figured this one out?

It was a bit more complicated.

Well, the choices on offer were these:

1. Be Hitler’s ally like Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, et cetera were.
2. Be like the Czechs and capitulate without a fight and submit to Nazi occupation peacefully.
3. Resist (like the Yugoslavs did later on) and hope that the Anglo-French will save your bacon before the Nazis (and Soviets) will fuck up your country too badly.

Is it more complicated than this?

Ukraine can also be a part of this newly created PLC, though it is still likely to be a sub-unit within a much larger European Union unless the EU becomes a total dump. This new PLC can include the Baltic countries, Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, maybe Finland, and possibly even Belarus and/or Hungary if they will ever experience regime change in a more pro-Western direction. Cumulatively, this should be slightly over 100 million people, if my calculations are correct.

We’ll see how this prediction stands in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, et cetera years, OK?

Mikel, are you still reading this apparently defunct blog, you old mountain goat?

I have just returned from a few weeks in the Sawtooth Valley, a reborn man, and am here to tell you it’s one of the most enchanting places on this planet. It’s not just the mountains, it’s the golden morning sun bathing everything in fairy-light, it’s lustrous glow lighting up rock and green hillside in an impossibility intense yellow, it’s the bracingly cold mornings even in July, when to sip a hot coffee under that extravagant sun and cold high pine-scented air is one of life’s supreme revitalizing experiences, it’s the feeling of exhilaratingly vast space and open horizons, the piercingly blue skies.

And once one climbs into the mountains it’s another world, of snow and ice, and cold lakes beneath mighty and brooding stone peaks and dark pine forests, the abode of the Gods that one cannot enter without feeling a slight shiver in the presence of the numinous ( I mean this seriously – the high mountain passes and valleys there have a strange numinous presence that I have not felt anywhere else for some reason).

But perhaps you’re gone, and so has everyone else, and this is just a sad ghost town now….

Well, in case anyone with a soul is still here, I’d like to post some pictures below.

Having traveled all over the world, there is something in the West one finds nowhere else I’ve been. D.H Lawrence once said the Taos valley was the most beautiful place in the world – yet if one looks only at pictures it’s hard to understand why he’d say that. It’s a beautiful place, sure, but visually it’s not obviously better than any number of other places on other continents.

Yet there is some quality of exhilaration in the mountain West that makes it unique, that astonishing golden summer light, the soft air, the scents, the endless horizons. A freshness, a purity, I’ve found nowhere else.

What is to be done, but return again and again?

My pictures do not do justice to this realm of Gods and fairies, fairies on the green lower slopes and titanic Gods and giants on the high mountain passes.

The mountains are not that high. The highest are only around 10,000 feet or so. They remind me somewhat of the Sierras, perhaps, but with a very different “feel”.

Basic comprehension can be tough for some.

1. Be Hitler’s ally like Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, et cetera were.
2. Be like the Czechs and capitulate without a fight and submit to Nazi occupation peacefully.
3. Resist (like the Yugoslavs did later on) and hope that the Anglo-French will save your bacon before the Nazis (and Soviets) will fuck up your country too badly.

4. Be like the Poland of that time period and screw yourself up.
5. Be pious like the Western establishment, by appeasing the Nazis in 1938, when there was another option (that in retrospect) if taken might’ve possibly saved millions.

Ukraine can also be a part of this newly created PLC, though it is still likely to be a sub-unit within a much larger European Union unless the EU becomes a total dump. This new PLC can include the Baltic countries, Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, maybe Finland, and possibly even Belarus and/or Hungary if they will ever experience regime change in a more pro-Western direction. Cumulatively, this should be slightly over 100 million people, if my calculations are correct.

A geopolitical dream for some.

Appeasement would fold into the idea of either allying with Hitler or capitulating to Hitler without a fight. And of course agreeing to any demands that Hitler would have made in regards to Danzig and the Polish Corridor. FWIW, I do think that at the very least, Poland should have offered to agree to Danzig’s return to Germany and to the construction of an extraterritorial road between East Prussia and the rest of Germany. A plebiscite in the Polish Corridor limited to 1918 residents (minus Gdynia) would have been unfair to Poland but one can argue that Poland should have accepted even this in order to avoid a war. Poland would at the very least get to keep Gdynia and have an extraterritorial road connecting Gdynia to the rest of Poland. If Hitler will subsequently go for more, the Anglo-French could have declared war on him them.

And arguably the Anglo-French should have allied with the Soviets in 1939 to stop Hitler, even at the expense of throwing the Finns and Balts under the bus simply because stopping Hitler was much more important than who would have ruled Helsinki or Tallinn or Riga or Vilnius.

I like how Poland was sufficiently based to revert to Kaliningrad’s old name in official documents:

https://apnews.com/article/russia-poland-war-kaliningrad-map-811eb734576cc567051558372daa51cd

From Anatoly Karlin:

“@general_ben 90% of Crimeans don’t want to go back to Ukrainian rule.

Ukrainian occupation of Crimea would necessitate large-scale repressions and deportations, of which the Ukrainians talk openly.”

My own response to him:

It won’t be any worse for Ukraine than conquering all of Ukraine would have been for Russia (which you yourself supported even when it became clear that the war was going to become a war of attrition, just so long as you thought that Russia could still win it and thus attain Sub-Saharan African population growth rates through military expansion, like Hitler did in the past). I could have easily told you that even if Russia would have conquered all of Ukraine, doing so was a bad idea because 90+% of Ukrainians would have opposed this. But you said that people are malleable and intuitively like winners. So, why exactly wouldn’t the same logic also apply in a case where Ukraine militarily reconquers Crimea and Donbass? If the people there will start seeing Ukraine as a winner and Ukraine will experience a huge and long-lasting post-war economic boom due to huge amounts of remittances (much harder to loot) and large-scale Western aid (hopefully strictly monitored to prevent looting), then support for Russian rule there could drop significantly below 90%.

Mcgilchrist lives!

I’m reading him again this summer and finding him more compelling than ever, and the best explanatory model for understanding our troubled times, the strange collapse in intelligence one observes everywhere, and the increase in mental dysfunction.

Really his left/right hemisphere theory makes increasing sense.

So let’s say as a civilization we have entered that perilous terminal period where hemispheric balance has been lost, and the less intelligent left hemisphere dominates, rather than the right.

A civilization flourishes as long as the two hemispheres are well integrated, with the wider, more intelligent, more comprehensive right in charge, and the more narrow minded analytical and dissecting left it’s faithful servant. But civilizations appear to have an inherent tendency to increasingly develop left hemisphere thinking to the point of dominance, since that hemisphere is in charge of controlling and manipulating the world rather than understanding it, which is the role of the smarter right hemisphere – and civilizations inherently tend to favor control and manipulation over understanding as time passes and it gets more complex. But left hemisphere dominance spells the loss of vitality and intelligence for a civilization as it gets increasingly narrow minded and detached from the larger picture.

Fascinatingly, the famous essay about civilizations declining and the recurrent role of barbarians invasions in the process of revitalization by Sir Pasha Glubb seems to be an adumbration and foreshadowing of what Mcgilchrist is saying.

Does anyone here remember that essay?

Yet where are there any barbarians left today? There are none.

Christendom is over. Islam is a spent force – Islamic fundamentalism, with it’s humorless rigidity and proliferation of rules and prohibitions that smother life and spontaneity, with it’s unintelligent literalism, is classic left hemisphere thinking, and a clear sign of cultural decline in the Muslim world.

Nor are the unruly Muslim immigrants pouring into Europe fresh and vigorous barbarians – they are the sullen and resentful victims of capitalist modernity who have been left behind, and who wish only for a just and equal share in the largesse of modernity and the dignity, respect, and equality that accompanies that.

China? Enough said.

Slavdom seems to have spent it’s energetic force in the twentieth century and seems to be merely recapitulating the decline of Western Europe in a time lag. I fully sympathize with Ukraine’s desire not to be dominated by Russia, but nothing indicates that Ukraine, or any other Slavic land, has anything fresh to offer.

The Jews saved the world two thousand years ago when the late pagan civilization was declining into left hemisphere thinking. Mcgilchrist comments that the grid-like pattern of Roman cities indicates left hemisphere dominance, with it’s desire to impose rigid order and geometric categorization on urban life, and all late pagan philosophies, like Stoicism and Epicureanism, were philosophies of resignation – they had lost contact with life and vitality.

Christianity, and then Islam, gave Europe and the Near East a fresh burst of enthusiasm, and reconnected them to wider horizons, but that is now winding down. But today the Jews cannot even save themselves from left hemisphere thinking, much less anyone else. Their world-historical task has been discharged in ancient times, it seems.

So where do we look, then?

We must look within. Left hemisphere dominance is now global, and Life is smothered and strangled under a dense thicket of rules, regulations, procedures, protocols, structures, bureaucracies, and taboos and prohibitions – globally, we’ve lost sight of the larger picture and are ever more obsessed with manipulation and control.

But within each modern country, individuals and groups can undertake a personal process of “rewilding” where they slough off these fetters, like mighty Atlas breaking through his chains, and allow Life to once more burst forth in all its exuberance and limitless free horizons to once again define our vision.

Life is eternal.

Such individuals and groups can form the nucleus of the new fresh civilization that will replace the dying old one, even if they must still live in the old one.

And then it occurred to me, that for the past few years my forays into nature, my rejection of more money and status, was my own dimly groping process of “rewilding”.

And that makes me smile 🙂

It is beginning, all around us….

* The Alt-Right was sinister from its inception, but the one interesting and fresh thing about it was that it seemed to be at least partially a revolt against the chains and fetters of a sclerotic and moribund civilization, however dim and groping and however mixed up with truly sinister and malevolent elements.

But now it has lost even that. The Alt-Right now worships China, the epicenter of the culture of control and regulation, and has been fully assimilated to left hemisphere dominance – if it ever truly aspired to break free of it, which I increasingly find doubtful.

** By barbarians, I certainly don’t mean things like Bronze Age Pervert. That’s just another manifestation of modern alienation and dysfunction. The Tao Teh Ching, or some passages from the New Testament, are what Iean.

I’m lost

All those boring pics are sorely lacking some Bigfoot roaming around!

Just joking, really nicely perfect as it is;)

Hi HMS,

Does anyone here remember that essay?

Glubb Pasha’s ideas are covered in this forthcoming book:

They have been talked about on and off for a while in parts of the D/R.

There was an article in Unherd yesterday about a new hippy movement:

https://unherd.com/2023/07/the-dawn-of-the-bohemian-peasants/

The persistent European hippy tendency (dates back to the 1920s at least, if not before) has been absent for a while so it is interesting to see something like it coming back.

Are you really?

Read up on Ian Mcgilchrist.

Basically, the brain has two hemispheres. The left hemisphere is a sort of “spotlight” – it looks at the world through a very narrow lens, simplifying it, in order to control it and manipulate it. Think of any complex situation, in order to manipulate it, you have to simplify it into a few simple formulas. But if you want to understand it, you’ll look at it in it’s full multi-dimensional complexity.

Look at people on this website – many here are convinced that all social phenomena are the result of elite manipulation. That’s typical narrow minded left brain thinking. Now obviously, social phenomena are extremely complex and multi-dimensional, but if you only wanted to manipulate it, you’d focus only on simplifying it into a few formulas. Those formulas may miss the larger picture and be right only to a small degree, but insofar as you’re able to manipulate it at all, that’s you’re only chance. Even if it gives you only 5% ability to manipulate, at the cost of failing to understand the larger picture and how it all fits together, and at the cost of not being able to discover new aspects of the situation from this higher vantage point, you’d still have your only chance at control by simplifying it and reducing it to a few simple elements. And the left hemisphere is only interested in control, and if you start thinking too much from that side of your brain, you gradually lose the ability to see the larger picture and start dwelling in a delusion.

Out of 360 degrees, the left hemisphere sees 3 degrees. But it’s a very useful tool, because we need some control over out environment. It analyzes, dissects, categorizes – but it can’t see the larger whole, only these small parts, so doesn’t really understand what’s going on in the larger sense, and can’t see anything new. So it doesn’t really understand what ought to be done in life in order for humans to flourish and it can’t see new ways for us to flourish – all it does is take apart in order to manipulate.

It’s basically the engineering mindset. Now in order to see new things and be creative in any field, you can’t just take apart and dissect, you need imagination and intuition.

If you read the great scientists, they all had some imaginative picture of what reality is like, or some intuition about it, and then set about analysing and dissecting in order to prove it. Today of course it’s all bureaucracy, rules, regulations – no spontaneity.

According to Mcgilchrist, the mind is supposed to approach reality first from the right hemisphere, which sees the larger picture, and can imagine and intuit aspects of reality. It then hands the reins over to the left hemisphere, which takes it all apart, simplifies it, and gains some measure of control over the situation, and then returns control back to the smarter right hemisphere in order to integrate it into the larger picture and balance it against other factors in a total picture of human flourishing, and this higher understanding provides the basis for new imaginative insights which lead to new ways to flourish. That’s when s civilization is still creative.

The left hemisphere is always an intermediate step. Einstein has some imaginative intuition about reality, subjects it to rigorous tests, then integrates it into a larger vision of reality that allows for new discoveries to be made as well as organize all knowledge towards true human flourishing.

But if you stay in that intermediate step, you’re literally stuck in a delusional state, and you’re also cut off and stymied. But civilizations have a tendency to become obsessed with simplifying and controlling, and so get stuck in that delusional state where progress grinds to a halt and you lose connection to the larger picture.

You’re just more and more obsessed with manipulation and control. That’s where our civilization is now.

In addition to a collapse in intelligence, this leads to a loss in vitality and exuberance – the Life Force is literally smothered under a net of petty rules, you can’t express yourself, do what you truly want, satisfy your true needs and inner nature, and you can’t be spontaneous and original, which is the source of creativity, also. Everything is control. You also feel seperate from everything, other people, the universe, because the left hemisphere takes apart into small pieces. Soon, you no longer even want to really defend your civilization, as it is no longer satisfying, and you no longer can even if you did.

And this is the pattern of civilizational rise and fall, followed by some fresh barbarian people reinjecting vitality.

Anyways this has been a rather poor off the cuff explanation and you’d get a much richer and better explanation from Mcgilchrist himself – and ambiguous terms like life force are my own not his – so I’d encourage you to read up on it if any of this piques your interest.

I’m tired and lying in bed and can’t exert too much energy now I’m afraid.

What makes you think I don’t have pictures of bigfoot!

I’m saving those for last, in my great reveal….

🙂

Well hello there Coconuts.

I’m sure Glubbs ideas are still floating around and have not entirely disappeared. It seems he observed a true pattern, but Mcgilchrists work is filling out the details of the psychology behind it and substantially adding to the picture, which was mere sn intriguing suggestion in Glubb.

Hippy tendencies are perennial

All ancient cultures understood the tendency of the human mind to get lost in left hemisphere thinking. Zen is in large measure a deliberate antidote to the tendency of Japanese culture to smother itself in a thicket of life-killing rules and regulations, and a return to life–affirming freshness and spontaneity. Likewise Chinese civilization had a pronounced tendency to lose itself in formalistic life-killing rules and ceremonies, and Taoist literature is a rich antidote to this – and the Chinese literati found Taoism indispensable, even if they lived in the rules bound court they found it necessary to artistically cultivate freshness and spontaneity.

Jesus himself famously opposed the arid legalism of the Jewish Pharisees, but I’d argue he also came to free the ancient world from the Pharaseeism that had overtaken Roman culture, and led the whole pagan world to become stuck, stymied, and chronically frustrated, with resignation before Fate being the highest conceivable ideal in such a ln environment.

And that unleashed a fresh burst of enthusiasm onto the world.

If you are interested in the whole brain hemisphere thing, please check out the book Return to the Brain of Eden. If you are too busy to read it, you can find interviews with the author on YouTube where he covers most of the same material that is discussed in the book

By barbarians, I certainly don’t mean things like Bronze Age Pervert.

BAP and other frog content is probably a manifestation of far-right anarchism, it seems like it was a more popular current in the early 20th century but fell into abeyance to some extent after 1939. Though it was still around in a low profile way. Ernst Junger, Celine, Drieu La Rochelle etc. always had their readers and fan base.

They seem to have a new kind of relevance, the revolt against the ‘seated man’, overweight, sedentary and deformed product of urban life and rationalism, it is like the far-right version of the hippy thing.

Chavs are not working class of course.

A123 is probably mental though.

NATO’s biggest problem is its own populations, especially in the West. I live in the UK and I would say most native Brits are cowards with no fight in them. Most of the pro-Ukraine crowd would be absolutely morally opposed to actually going and fighting Russians in a draft.

They would also be morally outraged if NATO took the fight directly to Russia itself, hang-wringing about “innocents” being killed.

Native Brits have too many moral hang ups for total war.

Wokechoke is an alienated, working class Chav. Possibly with some Irish ancestry. I don’t know where you got the idea that he’s a Muslim, he doesn’t even like Muslims

Only a Muslim would try to tell an obvious lie such as, “Zelenskyy is the Jew King of Kiev”. He travelled to Israel to spit on Jews with his vile Knesset speech last year: (1)

Likud MK Yuval Steinitz said it “borders on Holocaust denial.”

“War is always a terrible thing… but every comparison between a regular war, as difficult as it is, and the extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers in the framework of the Final Solution is a complete distortion of history,” he said in a statement.

A number of Religious Zionism MKs also criticized Zelensky, with the far-right opposition party’s leader, Bezalel Smotrich, slamming the Holocaust comparisons and accusing the Ukrainian leader of trying “to rewrite history and erase the involvement of the Ukrainian people in the extermination of Jews.”

If there is a Jewish side in this conflict, it is Russia. That post-Judaic apostate Zelensky is an enemy of Judaism is 100% proven. There is no room for the slightest doubt.

If Wokechoke is not a Muslim, why does he constantly repeat Islamist propaganda?

Is he a Dhimmi slave? I guess that could also explain his service.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

Around the turn of the century, I mentioned Turkey’s EU application in a general discussion of the country with an Englishman. I said I was not in favour – the other guy stated rather dismissively that it would get in the EU eventually.
Over two decades later the UK is out but Turkey is not in.

Going to assume it was entirely fictitious, since the plan was attributed to a Prince Tergin, who I don’t believe ever existed. A pity. It almost seemed more plausible than the Zimmerman Telegram.

Did you see any bears?

Black flies also inject an anticoagulant. The first time they bite you in the season can be relatively painful.

(And, of course, the day they hatch can be much worse than mosquitos in some areas. I once killed three by sticking a finger in my ear. I also once dived in the frigid water and started splashing vigorously, with seemingly little effect.)

I heard tell of old trail hands eating black flies, to prevent this reaction.

Am not saying I believe in Big Foot, but I don’t think that the profusion of cameras really disprove cryptid enthusiasts.

A lot of things in the woods are quicker than thought, and it is less than five seconds before they are in a thicket and invisible. And, if they are big, I guarantee you’ll spend at least four of those seconds evaluating the threat.

I’ve practically never gotten one good shot of wildlife, though I have seen some manificent things.
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I was recently reading Clavell’s Tai-Pan novel and thinking that the stereotypical Chinese categorization of Westerners as barbarians would seem like a compliment nowadays. There seems to be a a measure of vitality implicit in the word.

It’s not just the mountains, it’s the golden morning sun bathing everything in fairy-light, it’s lustrous glow lighting up rock and green hillside in an impossibility intense yellow, it’s the bracingly cold mornings even in July, when to sip a hot coffee under that extravagant sun and cold high pine-scented air is one of life’s supreme revitalizing experiences, it’s the feeling of exhilaratingly vast space and open horizons, the piercingly blue skies.

Yowza, our very own blogsite bodhisattva has once again returned to rescue other sentient beings and remind them that there’s more to this life than just the pursuit of paying bills. Your photos are excellent as usual and your accompanying prose is perhaps even a wee bit better. Next time your in Phoenix, consider applying as a freelance writer for Arizona Highways.

I’ve had a very similar experience of looking at what resembled fluorescent rock within a beautiful water fall park in Costa Rica. I was hiking though a small canyon and the sunlight had inflamed the beige colored rock around me in an aura of shining bliss. I just stood and looked at it all in amazement.

Glad you’re back and do tell us more about your trip!

A123 promotes a theory that anyone who is against his favored brand of Zionists is probably an Islamist.

While he doesn’t give Jewish people the full recognition they deserve for running the world (without being asked to), his suspicion of Muslims in high places is probably valid.

I’m not familiar enough with the details of the Hasbara troll organization to know which branch signs his paycheck.

Kiev will soon be too broke to fight. The grain export deal is done. Train transport is not cheap and EE nations are protecting their nearby farmers. Where will the €uros come from?

Or grain prices go up and offset the cost of moving by train.

It is not hard to forsee what is coming. Zelensky will flee to his puppet masters (Scholz & Macron). The new destitute Ukrainian government will not have the wherewithal to continue aggression against Russian ethnics.

He didn’t flee when there was a bounty on his head and tanks in Kiev but a financial crisis will do it?

ROTFL… If you do not like the term ‘capitulate’, feel free to substitute an alternative term for inevitable Kiev submission.

You Putin defenders need to stop fantasizing about taking Kiev.

Putin already signaled that he wants Donbas. He can’t return to Kiev with a conscript army in horses and T-55s.

He wants to take Donbas and have his State TV declare that it was the goal the entire time. He doesn’t give a fudge about the hopes and dreams of his US basement defense force.

I don’t see anything that you’ve cited here as being in the least bit offensive to Jews or anybody else.
Zelensky is an ethnic Jew who has real skin in the game as his family includes sacrifices to the Holocaust. And you? A moronic individual who whiles away the day playing auto racing video games and trying to come off as some kind of philosophic wiseman. Pathetic. And as for Bezalel Smotrich’s wild attempt at slamming Zelensky with Ukrainian Holocast involvement, has he (or you) ever tallied up the number of Jewish kapos within the camps that were involved in rounding up their own for extermination? All of these pitiable individuals were only trying to save their own skins, whether Jews or Ukrainians.

Mr. Hack, read the other sentence.

He is saying these ethnic groups have various animosities between themselves independently of their feelings for Russia. In that context their animosity toward Russia is not as profound as some would claim. In other words it is all relative.

Zelensky’s Easter Greetings within the “Great Sophia Cathedral” show that he’s a deeply spiritual man. It’s really a great speech, and it can be read below the video in English subtitles. He’s Jew that feels very close to Ukraine’s traditional Ukrainian Orthodox church. A real Judeo-Christian, not a phoney baloney one like you, kremlinstoogeA123.

Did the Chinese pay this woman?

It has little to nothing to do with Zionism. It is actually much simpler.

Jews & Christians must stick together to fight their common enemy, followers of the Anti-Christ Muhammad. Practitioners of Judaism would, of course, not use that phrase. However, Muslim hate directed towards Jews is undeniable.
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-1- What do Jews get out of Judeo-Christians fighting Judeo-Christians in Ukraine? Nothing. And, Palestinian Jews have remained neutral.

-2- What do Muslims & IslamoGloboHomo get out of Judeo-Christians fighting Judeo-Christians in Ukraine? Jihad is about killing Judeo-Christians, so that is a direct win. And, as I have noted multiple times, there is a flood of MENA and sub-Saharan Muslims entering the EU on forged Ukrainian documents. This is likely a full 1/3 of the total. Invasion is also a part of Jihad, so Islam wins again.

Given that it is obvious that Jews are not involved #1 and Muslims are gaining #2 — Why would someone misallocate blame to Jews?

• Islam seems like the most obvious cause.
• What other explanation could there be? Mental infirmity perhaps?

Can you explain his lying about Judeo-Christians generally & Jews specifically?

PEACE 😇

Kiev will soon be too broke to fight. The grain export deal is done. Train transport is not cheap and EE nations are protecting their nearby farmers. Where will the €uros come from?

Or grain prices go up and offset the cost of moving by train.

You are underestimating the cost and shipping time considerably. Consider moving grain from Ukraine to Egypt.

Before:
    ♦ Grain went a short distance on rail to Odessa where it was loaded on a ship.
    ♦ The ocean leg through The Bosphorus was also short.

Now:
    • Grain has to go a longer distance to the Polish border on wide gauge rail
    • Unload from wide gauge rail cars to silo
    • Load from silo to standard gauge rail cars
    • Long rail run to a Polish or German port
    • Transit the Baltic through the English Channel
    • Round Spain and cross the Mediterranean

The costs are huge versus other more favourably located suppliers. While the consumer price may go up, the farmer sale price will collapse thus depriving Kiev of revenue.

Another wrinkle. Are there enough standard gauge rail grain cars? The answer is “No”. There was never a demand for them. Will private industry build cars that have a five year payback without a guarantee of five years of service? Probably not. Alternate routes via Italian ports to cut down on ship time make the rail car shortage even worse.

Kiev is in a very deep economic hole, entirely propped up from the outside. Will France and Germany pay the €uros to keep Kiev aggression going?

PEACE 😇

Or grain prices go up and offset the cost of moving by train.

You are underestimating the cost and shipping time considerably. Consider moving grain from Ukraine to Egypt.

I’m not underestimating or overestimating anything. I haven’t provided any estimates.

I said the cost of grain could rise enough to offset rail costs.

Now:
Grain has to go a longer distance to the Polish border on wide gauge rail
Unload from wide gauge rail cars to silo
Load from silo to standard gauge rail cars

OMG ARE YOU SAYING THEY WILL HAVE TO USE A RAIL YARD LIKE THOMAS THE TRAIN???

F_CK THEY ARE HOSED

Moldova grain exports have increased and they are landlocked with only an old Soviet line
https://moldovalive.md/moldovan-grain-exports-have-increased-considerably/

They must be masters of 19th century railway tech.

What do Jews get out of Judeo-Christians fighting Judeo-Christians in Ukraine? Nothing. And, Palestinian Jews have remained neutral.

What is a Judeo-Christian and can one simply be Christian?

As for Israel they get cheap oil which is what I said would happened when this war started. Putin’s fans however think this is somehow a war against Jews just because Zelensky is ethnically Jewish.

Have a look at ILS to RUB
https://wise.com/gb/currency-converter/ils-to-rub-rate

The more the Ruble falls the cheaper their oil will get. This is because they don’t have to pass sanctions due to being dependent on Russian oil.

Everything about him seems fake.

He is a gay comedian-actor.

Obama was the last instance of such a fake and manipulative combination of scripted resolve and pathos.

…Appeasement would fold into the idea of either allying with Hitler or capitulating to Hitler without a fight.

You can label things all you want – each situation is different – all that matters is how a country or a nation does at the end. Poland in the late 30’s had a combination of aggressiveness (de facto attacking Czechs with Germany), one-sided devotion to Anglo-French, bottomless hatred for Russia, and weakness – Poland collapsed in 6 weeks. Poles did very badly in WW2 and were only saved by the Russian sacrifice who lost half a million soldiers liberating Poland. The Anglo-French lost zero.

Poles don’t learn and don’t have even the most basic sense of geography or gratitude. They are posturing again with a combination of mindless aggressiveness against Russia and servility toward the Anglos. Only two realities matter – all else is empty talk – ask the two simple questions:
– who would do better in a direct Poland-Russia confrontation?
– how much would the Anglos sacrifice for Poland?

The answers are obvious. They were also obvious in 1938-9. Maybe it really is the mushrooms.

Did the Indians and colonists really think the whip-poor-will was scary and why? (I’ve heard a lot scarier noises at night).

Was it the ability of the bird to enter dreams that made them think of it as being especially liminal and which made them believe it was able to steal the soul? (Freddy Krueger passerine)

You have clipped your previous ambitions. What happened to the glorious offensive to defeat Russia, push them away from the Azov Sea, capture Crimea and march on Moscow. Or at least Rostov. And the Russia will collapse rhetoric?

Ok, maybe it was just happy talk. But the situation on the ground has not changed much for over a year – an endless positional warfare with force meeting force, and Russia holding to its gains. The initial forays and attempts at forcing peace by Russia were modified because Kiev didn’t want peace – you see that as victory, others as the last opportunity Kiev missed to come out of the war relatively unscathed.

What now? Russia has the upper hand and they can slowly bleed the Ukies. Europe devotes scarce resources to this war and will eventually scale it back – they need to focus on the living standards at home. You will celebrate the occasional “wins” like blowing up a car on some bridge or another querulous Russian general complaining about his higher-ups. What does that change?

The deal has been on the table for over a decade: Nato stays out of Ukraine and the Russian minority gets self-determination. It is actually a fairly just deal based on the modern European values. The longer Ukies refuse the deal, the worse for them. More Ukies will die with more of their country destroyed. Cui bono?

Augustus in his testament wrote: Rome should stop expanding and focus on preserving what they have – further imperial expansion will jeopardize the gains Rome made. It was a good advice, largely followed by his successors – and Rome went on for four more centuries. Can you learn from that? Or are the neo-con-with-angry-ethnics (Mr. Hacks) emotions and plans now sacrosanct?

Why guess? Most people eventually tell you what camp they are in. Everyone likes to wave the colors, even the cryptids!

Your Judeo-Christian solidarity makes some sense, but we need a word that means “Jewish people who are also NOT followers of Kabbala or the Talmud”. I suspect such a word exists.

Poland collapsed in 6 weeks. Poles did very badly in WW2 and were only saved by the Russian sacrifice who lost half a million soldiers liberating Poland. The Anglo-French lost zero.

That is intellectually dishonest. The Red Army pushed Germany out of Poland so of course Western casualties were minimal.

The loss of Poland is complicated and oversimplified in Western history in part because the role of the USSR is still an avoided subject. Liberals and leftists don’t like talking about how Stalin gobbled up Eastern Europe with Hitler. Goes against the “only bad naughty fascists invade” narrative.

First of all Poland wanted to defend the border because they were afraid that Germany would take a chunk and sit on it. It was clear that the British wanted to appease Hitler and the Poles were understandably concerned that Hitler would pull another “my last territory” speech after taking Germanic areas of Poland. They went against the advice of their own military advisors which was to build defenses around geographic advantages and let the Germans come in.

They also expected an offensive from France against Germany from the West. Those nations were indeed at war with Germany and yet there was the “phony war” for nearly an entire year. The Germans were in fact surprised that it never came.

Most importantly the Poles had no idea that Hitler made a deal with Stalin to split the country in two. It’s amazing that the Germans were able to keep it a secret. This completely destroyed their defensive plan and scared the British into acting cautiously. The Brits were rightly concerned with the possibility of Stalin and Hitler teaming up to take the rest of Europe.

But Poland definitely deserves some criticism. They should have been building up militias and training a home guard once Hitler took power. It’s much harder to occupy a country when the population is hostile and well armed. Too many Poles naively assumed that they would be back to pre-WW1 lines with the Germans. They had no idea that Hitler planned on eliminating the state of Poland so the Allies would never be able to liberate it. Hitler took losing WW1 personally (he was a trench runner) and wanted a solution to Poland that couldn’t be reversed.

In German war records they speak of the Poles as fighting bravely. In the early Danzig battle the Germans were in fact surprised by the tenacity of the Poles. This is one of the earlier battles of WW2 and part of it was captured on video:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_of_the_Polish_Post_Office_in_Danzig

You have clipped your previous ambitions. What happened to the glorious offensive to defeat Russia, push them away from the Azov Sea, capture Crimea and march on Moscow.

There you go projecting your own cheerleading again.

Go ahead and find quotes to support your wild imagination.

I’ve never even said they should try to retake all of Crimea. In fact I have mixed opinions on taking Crimea. I’d be concerned with them stretching too thin by going south instead of towards Mariupol. I think it makes more sense to cut the bridges and let them stew. Crimea is a huge area and doesn’t have as many agitated partisans as Mariupol.

I have also said it is possible that Russia can still take Donbas.

I am also of the opinion that Ukraine can still rout the Russians with Western armor. Most of that armor has not arrived. Scott Ritter however claimed the offensive was over two weeks ago. In fact I said that Ukraine should focus on demoralizing the Russian public/army instead of fighting for land gains. I’m not against the offensive but I believe the best strategy for Ukraine would be to demoralize the Russian public and turn it into a Vietnam type situation. In fact I was critical of Western powers for being too demanding of a grand offensive.

Maybe next time try responding to actual quotes instead of your imagination where you assume everyone makes bi-monthly doomsday victory declarations like Scott Ritter and MacGregor. If you want I can replay Ritter’s video where he tells us that Wagner is under full control of the Russian military and anyone who believes they are independent is clueless. That was when Prigozhin was demanding more ammo and Ritter wrote it off as an internal squabble that can be ignored.

Augustus in his testament wrote: Rome should stop expanding and focus on preserving what they have – further imperial expansion will jeopardize the gains Rome made. It was a good advice, largely followed by his successors – and Rome went on for four more centuries. Can you learn from that?

Yes that is good advice and should have been taken by Putin. World’s largest country with population decline and abandoned cities in Siberia. It would have been cheaper to give every Donbas Separatist $100k USD and 100 acres in the East. As I pointed out recently the state of Washington has more people than the Eastern 20% of Russia.

Addition:
As for Rome yes it would have made sense for them to stop in the time of Augustus.

They should have consolidated their gains around north Africa given its natural defenses. Keep a Mediterranean empire where they can send in naval support to any territory.

Nothing remains of Rome. Not even its people.

Italy is an admixture of Romans and the random tribes that raped them after the empire collapsed.

So yes they went too far in their expansion. The expansion into Britain was entirely about ego and not economics. They could have traded with Brits and Germans instead of trying to conquer them.

But I guess the Romans knew what they were doing. Their original bloodline is dead and their buildings are now tourist attractions. The mighty Rome is a place for selfies.

Russia is not in Ukraine to conquer it, but to keep NATO and the West out. This is only necessary because the West has been threatening Russia for a long time in various ways in many places.

Since the West seems to be committed to injuring the Russian state by fighting in Ukraine there is a good chance Ukraine will be conquered. This will be a side effect of Russia’s pushback against Western aggression, not a primary goal. I suspect Russia would have preferred to have Ukraine genuinely neutral.

To be fair there are Mustapha Monds in high places. But what is striking about the Western Europeans is that the heads of state prefer a Turk to a Slav from Moscow.

Go figure.

Johnson is a terrorist in certain respects, he’s the guy Graeme Greene highlighted in The Quiet American.

Stochastic terrorism R Us.

Mikel, are you still reading this apparently defunct blog, you old mountain goat?

Yes, my little grasshopper. This old mountain goat has not yet totally given in to his natural instincts and still tries to find some pleasure in online discussions though there has been quite little of that here lately. But in just a couple of hours I’ll be running in the wild through bushes of mahogany and gamble oak all the way up to my lookout. The experts are saying that we should all stay in the shade during the middle hours of the day but I don’t feel like that advice concerns old rams, bucks and goats, born to jump in the wild regardless of the season, so I’m not listening.

Thanks for those beautiful pictures. That must be Mt Regan, of course. It’s funny, only a couple of days ago I decided to fall asleep on my couch watching with no sound an Amazon Prime documentary of Idaho from the air. One of the things that caught my eye is what you’re showing here: the magnificent ruggedness of the Central Idaho mountains. Some mountains are shaped in such a way that you can always find some feasible route to the top without too much exposure. Most of the Wasatch are like that. But some others, like the aptly named Sawtooth, look unconquerable from all sides.

The other thing that came to my mind before falling asleep, and that you also allude to, was how vast and varied a single state of the US West is compared to any country in Europe. Idaho has lake and forest country in the North, reminiscent of what Germany/Austria/Central Europe must have looked like in the distant past, very high Alpine landscapes in the center, deserts and dunes in the South and Siberian-like forest/steppes in the eastern high plateau. And you can basically repeat this astounding combination in most other Western states. You are right that one is very unlikely to find anything like the US West anywhere else in the world.

Did you spend several weeks just in the Sawtooth area? Did you hike a lot or just chill in the invigorating air of the valley?

The Turk wants power so he can be controlled. The Slav wants to be left alone.

Wrong actor for the part. He is for this one:

…I’ve never even said they should try to retake all of Crimea. In fact I have mixed opinions on taking Crimea. I’d be concerned with them stretching too thin by going south instead of towards Mariupol…

My recollection is that you were more optimistic than you are now. Your idea that Mariupol is full of potential ‘partisans’ also seems made up. But whatever, wars are alike that – each side starts uber optimistic, then realities hit, then they don’t want to talk about it, and then they settle for the best deal they can – for Ukies almost certainly much worse than if they had settled in 2021.

Ukraine can still rout the Russians with Western armor. Most of that armor has not arrived.

What would be the timeframe? The armor is trickling in and it has not made much difference. Your idea that Russia will collapse internally ala US in Vietnam (or in Iraq, Afgan.) misreads the situation: for Russians this is a domestic war, it is not something half-way around the world building up the American imperium. You don’t understand that, and thus you don’t understand how this will play out.

It is not “Putin” who sees it that way – it is a huge majority of people in Russia. If anything Putin is a relative moderate who has tried repeatedly to find a compromise. But your idea that the Russian speaking people in Ukraine who are a plurality (or were) in the south-east, who have endless relatives in Russia, studied and often worked there, are the same as “Vietnamese” to US only displays your ignorance. But whatever, let reality teach you…as with many Americans you simply don’t understand the outside world. It is not all analogous to your American experiences like Vietnam.

It would have been cheaper to give every Donbas Separatist $100k USD and 100 acres in the East.

Would you suggest the same thing to the Ukies or to white Americans in the border regions that are becoming Hispanic? Give them $100k and resettle them in Canada. It would be cheaper – but why would you advocate ethnic cleansing of the Russians from Ukraine?

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He is really into weight sleds.

Brits had no problem being drafted for Poland back in 1939.

MAGA people in the US also prefer a Turk over a traditional American (John Fetterman) when the Turk is perceived as being one of their own, such as Mehmet Oz. In his case, though, the Turk didn’t have enough support to win the general election, though he did come close.

Yes that is good advice and should have been taken by Putin. World’s largest country with population decline and abandoned cities in Siberia. It would have been cheaper to give every Donbas Separatist $100k USD and 100 acres in the East. As I pointed out recently the state of Washington has more people than the Eastern 20% of Russia.

They could have also been incentivized to resettle in the Kuban, which also has a mixed Russian-Ukrainian population, albeit with the Ukrainians becoming heavily Russified since the 1930s due to Stalin’s purges and repressions.

His role as patriotic leader of his country is tops bar none. Try comparing him to Putler paying supporters to show up to a sports stadium and clap to his BS script on cue. Pathetic.

It’s quite interesting how Hungarians tried to make Westerners understand the gravity of the Trianon Treaty:

The closest analogy here would be England if it lost Wales, Scotland, all of Ireland, and possibly the Isle of Man and Cornwall as well.

Though I suppose that Prussia could be another good analogy here if Germany was completely dismembered after the end of World War I.

From an ethnic perspective, Trianon was slightly but not hugely unfair for Hungary:

I suspect that the Magyar-majority territories around Subotica not being kept within Hungary was the most unfair part here. Czechoslovakia and Romania unfortunately needed to have some Magyar-majority territories in order to secure their communication lines (railroads, roads, et cetera).

Maybe a bit stupid question, but I was wondering why during wars offensives of fighting parties almost never coincide with each other, almost as if everyone was waiting for his turn to make a move as in chess. The consequence of this, for example, is that there never will be again a big tank battle, since you don’t fight with tank against tank anymore.
The only case I know where offensives did almost coincide was the operation Citadel in 1943.

And that unleashed a fresh burst of enthusiasm onto the world.

I think looking at Christian history there is a pattern of periodic renewal or revivals, these could cause significant upheavals, so this potential in Christianity did not disappear for a long time.

Imo one of the problems the mainstream Churches have at the moment is that they are too safe and repeat official or mainstream messaging too much, often without a lot of spiritual explanation or context.

Fetterman is a vegetable though.

Although I had no dog in that fight.

He was recovering from a stroke.

Tank on Tank combat was rare in ww2.

Gembloux Gap and Stonne.

Arras.

Some bad business at Gazala.

Prokorovka inside the Citadel offensive was a proper tank on tank slug fest.

Possibly because it’s wise to try bleeding your opponent dry by playing defense before you will actually resume your own offensive operations?

How did you reply to that so fast? Are you an editor on the comments board?

he’s the guy Graeme Greene highlighted in The Quiet American.

More info, s’il vous plait?

How did you reply to that so fast? Are you an editor on the comments board?

No, I’m not. It was quite literally just random luck lol.

Russia is not in Ukraine to conquer it, but to keep NATO and the West out. This is only necessary because the West has been threatening Russia for a long time in various ways in many places.

So you believed they planned on doing what exactly? Why were there tanks in Kiev? That isn’t trying to conquer a nation?

Since the West seems to be committed to injuring the Russian state by fighting in Ukraine there is a good chance Ukraine will be conquered. This will be a side effect of Russia’s pushback against Western aggression, not a primary goal.

Do you believe the offer to stay out of NATO was fake?
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/

PARIS, Sept 14 (Reuters) – Vladimir Putin’s chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia’s demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.

If the war ends and the offer is confirmed, will you admit that you have been cheering a homicidal dwarf that isn’t motivated by Ukraine’s status with NATO?

…I’ve never even said they should try to retake all of Crimea. In fact I have mixed opinions on taking Crimea. I’d be concerned with them stretching too thin by going south instead of towards Mariupol…

My recollection is that you were more optimistic than you are now.

Well I think you are assuming a similar level of fanboyism in everyone but feel free to dig through my history. I said the tanks could potentially cause a rout but most haven’t arrived. I also said an offensive is worth the effort if they are willing to fight. Makes sense to use all this Western hardware instead of accepting the current borders. However I thought announcing an offensive was a mistake and I was critical of the West for pushing one. A creeping unannounced offensive is the better path but that is out.

If Ukrainian men are willing to fight then I fully support arming them. But Crimea is tricky and I’m not convinced they should head south. However I don’t know their actual losses and neither does the Putin defense force. There is a lot of mystery to us observers. MacGregor told us last year that they were down to old men and boys and I watch daily video of Ukrainian military men fighting in trenches. So his “inside sources” are clearly bullshit.

Your idea that Mariupol is full of potential ‘partisans’ also seems made up.

My description of potential partisans in Mariupol isn’t made up. It’s from reading the news:
https://news.yahoo.com/mariupol-partisans-set-fire-house-183800509.html

Russians have in fact been on the hunt for them:
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-sweeping-mariupol-pro-ukrainian-173700965.html

Mariupol is nearly split between ethnic Russians and Ukrainians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol#Demographics

Ukraine can still rout the Russians with Western armor. Most of that armor has not arrived.

What would be the timeframe? The armor is trickling in and it has not made much difference.

I don’t know the timeframe. They are using the Bradleys selectively and we haven’t seen the full tank force and the Strikers. I’ve seen some Australian Bushmasters in use and the Ukrainains seem to like them. Maybe they are waiting for F16s, maybe they are still probing and mine clearing. I don’t know. Unlike MacGregor and Ritter I am actually fine with stating that I’m not sure of what exactly is happening on the battlefield at the moment. It’s possible that they want to wait and make sure a path is cleared. Modern offensives of this scale normally take months. I don’t know why anyone would expect an offensive to be over 2 in weeks as Ritter declared. Both sides have used mines effectively. I think Ukraine needs to probe for a weak point where they can demoralize the Russian public. The Russian State TV still depicts the war as being controlled by Putin. Remove that belief and a coup becomes more likely.

Maybe a bit stupid question, but I was wondering why during wars offensives of fighting parties almost never coincide with each other, almost as if everyone was waiting for his turn to make a move as in chess.

Not a stupid question at all. Modern war is very much like chess.

It’s because it is much harder to move an army without the other side knowing due to advances in communication. With modern sats it’s near impossible.

If I see your column of tanks coming from 30 miles away then it doesn’t make sense for me to move my artillery unless I need to.

What I want is for you to bring tanks into artillery range. Or better yet run into my mines at an exact point where I will then unleash artillery. Both sides use this tactic.

If your tanks are disabled by mines and my artillery isn’t around….that is also a success. You are in the middle of nowhere. If you decide to camp I can send out a drone. Or you can drag a tank back to your base. Watch out for those mines. It appears that Russians abandon their tanks most of the time.

The mines and drones really make it difficult. Both sides can launch mines from artillery. So they can actually put mines behind you. Your supply trucks come and aren’t aware that new mines were laid. It’s a very nasty war.

The only case I know where offensives did almost coincide was the operation Citadel in 1943.

Kursk was indeed a Hollywood style massive tank battle with both sides pushing forward.

It was completely reckless of the Germans to proceed when Soviets were dug in. The German high command wanted to bleed the Soviets in defensive actions but Hitler was obsessed with “one big battle” to demoralize the Soviets.

The CCP gets more bad news. (1)

Two years after it was halted, left for dead, and effectively bankrupted in a controlled demolition, China’s one-time property giant, Evergrande, reported long-delayed results and boy were they a whopper: they showed that in 2021 and 2022, the company generated mindblowing losses of $113 billion, on $340 billion in liabilities.

 

 

The developer’s debt pile meanwhile continued to balloon, with total liabilities reaching 2.58 trillion yuan at the end of 2021, or almost $360 billion, on soaring undelivered projects. That figure fell slightly to 2.44 trillion yuan as of December last year.

The biggest liabilities last year were from trade and other payables, which stood at around 1 trillion yuan as of December. Current borrowings fell slightly from a year earlier to 587 billion yuan.

“The results are not encouraging at all,” said Ting Meng, a senior credit strategist at Australia & New Zealand Banking Group. While not a game changer, they confirm how the company has been in deep distress and struggling with operations and repayments, Meng said.

So one company has admitted they are out $113 billion, and they have an additional problem for $360 billion, on soaring undelivered projects. Call it $500 billion to make the math easy.

Evergrande is the largest at 10-20% of the market, but this is a sector wide defect due to CCP central management. China’s housing sector is looking at between $2.5 to $5.0 trillion in losses. And, it has a devastating ripple effects to regional banks, construction suppliers, and individuals who have lost everything.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-evergrande-reports-113-billion-loss-over-two-years

That’s absolute bullshit. The economic goods exported from much of Siberia, Southern Russia and the Urals area are fed into the world economy via Rostov on Don through Kerch and ultimately out into international waters after Istanbul. A Turkish choke point and place of interest for NATO.

Cut off Kerch what do you get? Russia (at least that part of it trading through the Azov) can’t trade according to prices it wishes to set nor are these going to be commodities reflecting free market prices. Every grain ship through Kerch will be subject to Nuland-Zelenskyy Fees.

The war could be said to be fixing grain, lumber and metal prices along with oil with a 5% cut for these Jews.

Exploding bicycles in Saigon and Hanoi whil the French were still there.

I think Russia went in to Ukraine for the reasons they mentioned: protect the Russian-speakers in the East, make Crimea permanent, stop the NeoNAZIs and fully remove all traces of NATO from the country. This NATO aspect to the conflict includes many different facets of the Western-Russian relationship since the fall of the USSR and is not simple.

The West and whoever else is backing the Zelensky regime would never have allowed an early resolution. They were in it to win it, fighting to the last Ukrainian.

I try to keep the full context of this situation in mind, starting with the Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty (ABM) and other critical nuclear disarmament treaties dropped by the USA. Also the previous NATO expansions, other Western meddling in Russian border countries, Maidan, etc. There is a bigger picture here which is recognizable to people willing to open their eyes and minds.

My hunch is the West had serious plans in place to take Crimea before Russia went to Kiev. Russia probably could have stopped the Crimea attack, but it might have been a giant mess. I don’t think they were prepared for this bold (insane) move by the West. Instead, Moscow went for the feint on Kiev to break up the Western plan. Even so the Russian forces were clearly not ready to fight for reasons you have pointed out previously.

People should consider that “fighting to the last Ukrainian” is not a bug for the West, it is a feature. Being a pawn is usually bad.

You were pretty clear. A suicide dash to Russian lines seeking a breakthrough. No concern for equipment that gets knocked out. Just send more vehicles. That was the gist.

I think Russia went in to Ukraine for the reasons they mentioned: protect the Russian-speakers in the East, make Crimea permanent, stop the NeoNAZIs and fully remove all traces of NATO from the country.

But you acknowledge that they planned on taking the whole country and replacing the government?

The West and whoever else is backing the Zelensky regime would never have allowed an early resolution. They were in it to win it, fighting to the last Ukrainian.

Do you believe the peace offer to keep Ukraine out of the war was fake:
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-war-began-putin-rejected-ukraine-peace-deal-recommended-by-his-aide-2022-09-14/

And do you believe the leaked plans to absorb Belarus by 2030 was fake:
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-belarus-strategy-document-230035184.html

People should consider that “fighting to the last Ukrainian” is not a bug for the West, it is a feature. Being a pawn is usually bad.

So you believe that the Ukrainians are a pawn for the West and should stop fighting and submit to Russian rule. Is that correct? You believe that the Ukrainian military should act against the will of the majority and stand down? Even though they have pushed Russia back to beyond the Donbas border?

You were pretty clear. A suicide dash to Russian lines seeking a breakthrough. No concern for equipment that gets knocked out. Just send more vehicles. That was the gist.

I didn’t describe anything as a suicide dash. I’ve never used that term before.

I said you might as well use the equipment and if an offensive doesn’t work then well that’s war.

Yes people will die. People have been dying since Putin launched this war. You have to take risks in war if you want gains.

It doesn’t make sense to sit entirely in a defensive posture when you have 100+ modern tanks. Artillery and mines work better to maintain defensive lines.

But I also stated that announcing a grand counter-offensive was a mistake.

You and others here have a hard time with nuanced opinion. You’re clearly more comfortable with MacGregor style cheerleading. I support Ukraine but I don’t make bi-monthly statements on how Ukraine is about to push Russia out of Crimea. However I believe Ukraine is winning based on Putin’s originally stated goals. He changed those goals after being pushed out of Kiev but his original speech is online where he outlines the reasons for the invasion:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/putins-speech-declaring-war-on-ukraine-translated-excerpts

Finland already added more NATO border than Ukraine so by his own well defined goals it is a failure. He may still walk away with Donbas but that remains to be seen. He still doesn’t have Odessa which he views as a Russian city. Trying to take Kiev again with conscripts would be a complete disaster. So Russia is losing unless we are to believe his original goal was to take 60% of Donbas and add NATO border to Russia. And if he gets that 60% is still undetermined. Bakhmut was declared as Russian and the ruins of a city have gone back to being contested.

Russia can build a new port at Novorossiysk and/or Sochi, no? Or even at Gelendzhik, I would presume?

What I find interesting is that on Twitter, Anatoly Karlin is arguing about how it’s unethical to sacrifice 100-200 thousand unwilling Ukrainian conscripts in order to reconquer Crimea and Donbass. Well, maybe, but at the same time, he appeared to have no problem* with mass deaths when he thought that Russia still had a chance of winning the war. For instance, back when he still had this belief, he never suggested that Russia should try drawing the war to a close as opposed to trying to bleed Ukraine through attrition, which would have also resulted in a lot of unwilling Ukrainian (and presumably Russian as well) conscripts being sent to their deaths.

*Back then, he might have viewed mass deaths as tragic but also as *necessary* so that Russia could regain sovereignty and superpower status. But when *Ukraine* wants to recover all of its internationally recognized territory, then suddenly mass deaths are all bad and no good!

So you believe that the Ukrainians are a pawn for the West and should stop fighting and submit to Russian rule. Is that correct? You believe that the Ukrainian military should act against the will of the majority and stand down? Even though they have pushed Russia back to beyond the Donbas border?

I wonder if people with that logic would have thought that the Americans (and the Soviets, for that matter) want to fight the Nazis down to the last Brit and Frenchmen in 1939-1940, before the Fall of France significantly changed the situation and forced both the USSR and the US to directly enter the war in due time.

I think Russia always planned to chase NAZIs and NATO out of most of the country and still expect this to happen. Russia would prefer that Ukraine did this on her own, but I don’t know if that was ever in the cards. I think if Ukraine had capitulated early she would have retained more of her sovereignty. If Ukrainians can find a way to keep provocateurs and fifth columns out then she will gradually regain sovereignty. This may take time.

I don’t know about the mythical “Kozak deal” but there is obviously more at stake than just Ukraine. Don’t forget the West was working on revolutions in Kazakhstan and Belarus around this same general time. Russia has stated the West is not agreement capable, I think that is polite code for “bullets are going to fly” before anything is resolved.

I think Russia always expected to keep Belarus and Ukraine very close. This would not have been controversial or difficult except the West wanted to use these countries as tools against Russia. Without Western interference they might have been able to work things out politely, but becoming a violent pawn made this impossible in the case of Ukraine.

Yes, I think the Ukrainian military should surrender immediately and arrest all their decision makers and influencers who created this mess. Unfortunately a lot of these dangerous people are in the military. This is why Russia will keep grinding away until more sensible people are left than dangerous pawns.

I think with NeoNAZI thugs running around ‘shaping public opinion’ it is difficult to know what most people wanted. It doesn’t matter, the leadership started a war against Russia (2014-15) and eventually Russia will finish it. Obviously many Ukrainians embraced Western lies about what would happen and millions have paid the price.

I have little to add on battlefield results except:

– The Russian economy seems to be surviving and possibly growing despite serious Western sanctions.
– Russia stopped any major assault on Crimea.
– Russia has made NATO think twice about many things in the fighting.
– Russian casualties and losses are significantly less than Ukrainian.
– Russia has at least five times the population of Ukraine.
– The fighting is very close to the Russian border and far away from most of the Western logistics tail.
– Russia has conventional escalation dominance with air power which has only been used in a “kid gloves” manner.
– Russia has escalation parity with nuclear weapons.
– NATO-sponsored Ukrainian attacks on Russian soil have likely made many Russians aware this is an existential fight. This awakening is probably driving much of the Western fifth column out of Russia.

Oh for fuck’s Sake.

You were expecting a rout of the Russian troops around Tokmak and Melitopol.

Seems like the Russians put a lot of infantry in the area, built bunkers, stock piled ammo laid mines and stopped NATO cold.

Karlin has become unrealistic about Western goals for Ukraine and Russia.

This is about breaking Russia, not about taking Crimea. Crimea is one piece out of many.

Britain didn’t really take the war seriously until the fiasco in Norway.
A lot of astute guys like Ian Fleming’s (Bond writer) brother Major Peter Fleming pointed out that France would get overrun if German superiority in Norway were replicated in France.

Peter’s memo to MOD helped cause the downfall of Chamberlain.

*Back then, he might have viewed mass deaths as tragic but also as *necessary* so that Russia could regain sovereignty and superpower status. But when *Ukraine* wants to recover all of its internationally recognized territory, then suddenly mass deaths are all bad and no good!

LOL yes they certainly don’t believe in giving Russian conscripts a vote on if they think the war is justified. I didn’t see them demanding that the Russian borders stay open so men of military age could vote with their feet.

Now they seem to think we should be upset that the offensive isn’t progressing like Poland 1939.

This war was supposed to be a 2.5 week operation and here on day 511 we can watch a plane from Russia’s unstoppable air force (that was supposed to take out all Ukrainian artillery) crash in front of Russian sun bathers.

The pilot did not survive. Maybe the Putin defenders can send his family a card and promise that they will someday explain why he had to die once they reach an agreement on why the war exists.

If there are missiles pointed at Russian ships and cargo on the Western side of Kerch the Russian economy is a hostage to DC, London and Tel Aviv.

That’s why the Russians will absorb mass casualties to keep Crimea. What Turkey wants in this ought to be interesting. Much of their wealth is a tariff on Russian goods.

Kerch the Russian economy is a hostage to DC, London and Tel Aviv.

What???

Tel Aviv is pro-Russian. Official policy from indigenous Palestinian Jews is, at best, a fig leaf. Faux neutrality while opposing post-Judaic apostate Zelensky.

Not-The-President Biden is devoid of agency. He slavishly obeys Not-a-Jew Scholz and Not-a-Jew Macron. Thus, another undeniable proof the Tel Aviv is 100% uninvolved.

London’s Rishi Sunak is about to badly lose to Not-a-Jew Scholz and Not-a-Jew Macron. Their vassal in London will most likely be anti-Semite Jeremy Corbyn (a.k.a. Islamophile Labour).

DC, London and Tel Aviv are the three most irrelevant locations on the planet. If you want to understand European Empire aggression — Focus on Berlin, Paris, and Brussels.

PEACE 😇

Turkey/Erdogan is definitely a wild card.

Do you mean Turkey charges tariffs on Russian cargo currently transiting the straits to the Med?

When exactly did Peter Fleming write this memo of his?

An interesting hypothetical (but never actualized) post-WWI map of a large part of Europe:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.andrewcusack.com%2F2020%2Fcram-mitteleuropa%2F&psig=AOvVaw3mXXBLGRlI4FbcpkBVSyPV&ust=1689820073407000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjhxqFwoTCIDZmILcmYADFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

Yes, chickenhawkery is widespread everywhere, both in Russia and in Ukraine, and not only in this war. George W. Bush was a chickenhawk, for instance. In Ukraine, something like 90% of people want to fight the war to final victory but draft dodging is becoming more widespread. I wouldn’t be surprised if something similar is currently happening in Russia.

The Ukrainian war effort is at least geared towards a more legitimate purpose: Reconquering all of Ukraine’s internationally recognized territory. Russia’s war effort is just predatory imperialist. The Crimea/Donbass separatist cause would have been more legitimate (but still flawed due to the huge amounts of human rights abuses in the Donbass) had Russia not invaded the rest of Ukraine. But it did, and unsurprisingly Ukraine got mad and vengeful in response to this. Just like Czechs got vengeful after several years of being occupied by the Nazis, including with the Holocaust, after they peacefully handed over the Sudetenland to Hitler.

Oh for fuck’s Sake.

You were expecting a rout of the Russian troops around Tokmak and Melitopol.

Stop making stuff up. I’ve never mentioned Tokmak
https://www.unz.com/?s=Tokmak&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=John+Johnson

Let’s go ahead and look at my mention of Melitopol:
Russia has heavily mined defensives and anyone expecting some quick march on Melitopol like the movies really doesn’t understand how modern warfare works.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-222/#comment-6025663

Are you mixing me up with someone else?

I have said they could easily cause a rout with all that armor given the low morale of the Russian troops. Do you know what a rout is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rout

It’s when the enemy flees in terror in a single battle. It doesn’t mean the entire front collapses and the enemy runs home. I said they could easily cause a rout which would undermine public morale.

But I also recognize it’s entirely possible for them to line up a column and have it smashed into bits before it gets anywhere.

Which is what happened to numerous Russian columns.

The Abrahms tanks haven’t arrived so this is a premature conversation. We also don’t know if they will send out a large attack force. There is now talk of them going back to a war of attrition. You might find this surprising but I actually don’t control Ukrainian forces.

Ok, but in the end the far right only really wants liberation from the lefts rules, not rules as such. In fact they always imagine an equally oppressive set of rules they favor.

That’s why the American Alt-Right started off as anarchic and advocating for greater freedom, and swiftly devolved into supporting the most repressive regimes on the planet, China and Putin, and developing an appreciation for Islamic fundamentalism.

To be sure, on the way the right can produce works of genuine liberatory effect – I quite enjoyed Voyage Au Bout De La Nuit, despite it’s authors horrific views and personality.

BAP doesn’t favor a hippie-like spontaneity and naturalness, a freedom from artificial rules and constraints and a return to the natural man in his original state, as Zen does – he just hates specifically the lefts rules. But his own attitudes exemplify an oppression that would be just as smothering and artificial, and thus he is no true “barbarian”, no true “natural man”, just a late modern decadent.

Of course, the left has its own brand of sinister authoritarianism which we are seeing today.

What is Constantinople if it isn’t a Tollbooth?

You make a good point, and I completely agree with you.

There may well be some very elusive beasts out there. The woods are a very dark and mysterious place, and the outback in general. Every time I fly across the US I am struck by the vast empty spaces without houses or roads. It’s absurd to think we have any kind of complete idea of what exists out there. The spaces are too vast.

Then there’s the question of beings that want to be seen – there may exist a class of beings that can choose to manifest or not, or will only be apparent to those in the proper state of mind, etc.

There’s nothing unscientific about that, and people who say science proves the nonexistence of goblins and fairies and beings of that class simply don’t understand science.

As for the Chinese supposedly disparaging attitude towards barbarians, their own tradition contains at its heart Taoism, which is basically an appreciation for the natural and spontaneous man and the exact opposite of the highly cultivated, formal, and ceremonious man of Confucian culture, who is often mocked. So their attitude towards barbarians is ambiguous at best, and certainly contains a subversive and healthy dose of appreciation. In Taoism, returning to spontaneity is to recover vitality.

Never trust the merely “formal” attitude of a culture – often the real attitude can be quite the opposite 🙂

It’s like looking in a fun house mirror. From a distance, thank god.

Thank you, Mr Hack.

I’m hardly a Boddissatva with his infinite compassion and vow to help all souls reach paradise, but I do take pity on you poor inhabitants of a dying civilization that had lost its life–affirming character 🙂

I find the light out West to be an endless source of fascination. I’ve never seen light like that before, and it can transfigure a landscape.

The key here would be untrammeled Ukrainian air supremacy.
Then the American designed tank might have its way.
Otherwise it is just another tin can.

the American Alt-Right started off as anarchic and advocating for greater freedom, and swiftly devolved into supporting the most repressive regimes on the planet, China and Putin, and developing an appreciation for Islamic fundamentalism.

The much larger MAGA movement absorbed the bulk of the Alt-Right and is 180° opposite your assertion. They loathe the most repressive regimes on the planet, Xi’s CCP and deviant Islamic fundamentalism.

Christian Populist Russia, and thus Putin, are a potential ally opposing IslamoGloboHomo.

PEACE 😇

Ukraine can join Nato if they decisively win the war

No. It is impossible to decisively defeat Russia in the sense that it ceased to be a serious threat to try another war to settle accounts with Ukraine, and so letting Ukraine into NATO would be a prelude to NATO countries going to war with Russia. Moreover a (feasible) victory that left any Ukrainian territory including Crimea in Russian hands would create a powerful motive for Ukraine to deliberately provoke Russia into invading again so Ukraine could get rest of the NATO membership to fight alongside it. So any great victory by Ukraine will leave it a time bomb in NATO were it to be granted membership. Germany and France will never accept that Ukraine becomes a full member of NATO. They would leave first. Russia is not going to take the chance anyway, they are not going to end the war and that will be an excuse for Germany and France to keep Ukraine out of Nato. It will in effect end with a tacit ceasefire and a freezing of Ukraine’s status in relation to Nato.

A matter of spin:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-counter-offensive-is-far-from-failure-us-general/ar-AA1e2dTR?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=03548b18d74c4f7481eb4c325f9f35f4&ei=10

Or Kiev regime offensive is far from success – simple common sense.

Milley periodically gets off the reservation, like when he said that the Kiev regime probably peaked when it re-entered Kherson city and the area of Kharkov where there were limited Russian contingents. At the time, he suggested that negotiation was the best route.

Have you read BAP’s book or are you going off twitter threads? I am in the middle of the book now and I find your take very odd.

I think Ukraine needs to probe for a weak point where they can demoralize the Russian public. The Russian State TV still depicts the war as being controlled by Putin. Remove that belief and a coup becomes more likely.

But the fact that you are even saying this shows that you have, at least subconsciously, given up on Ukraine defeating Russia on the battlefield.

Although I’ve gone back and forth on who I expected to win the war, I generally regarded time as favoring the Ukrainians: the bumbling Russians would wear away as the Ukrainians get built into the strongest land army in the world aside from the United States. But that just doesn’t appear to be the way things are going. The Russian army continues to get bigger and better equipped and it is the West who are unable to deal with the Ukrainian army’s need for ammunition and weaponry. The Western wunderwaffen that have arrived are no longer making a meaningful impact and the US is all but explicitly stating that it will not attempt to build up the Ukrainian air force while the war continues.

It used to be in the times that I thought Russia would win, I felt that way because I thought Russia would be able to wait out the US, but now I think Russia is a credible threat to win the war outright. This war has exposed just how hollow the US military industrial complex really is. The US doesn’t produce anything that Russia and China are unable to counter and US military industry simply cannot produce the sheer quantity of weaponry that this war demands.

The only way to save Ukraine is for the West to retool it’s defense industry for mass production and to put a NATO force in Ukraine to prevent Russia from overrunning the entire country. It does appear like plans to put a Polish led force in Ukraine are already in the works.

But when this war finally ends, it’s gonna be on Russia’s terms. The US should be able to save Kiev but Kherson, Kharkov, Odessa and the rest of the Donbas are gone.

Milley is a POS who is saying what he needs to say to keep his job. Milley didn’t want this offensive in the first place and he knows that it is a catastrophic failure. This offensive was forced on Ukraine by the incompetent Millenials who are running the Biden administration

The writer was actually…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Martin_Lindsay,_1st_Baronet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsay_Memorandum

It’s mentioned in Nicholas Shakespeare’s Six Minutes in May (2017)

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/bookshelf-six-minutes-may-anatomy-campaign/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lindsay-memorandum-describing-british-chaos-led-to-toppling-of-neville-chamberlain-and-churchill-taking-power-t85pvdnsb

He had backchannels into Parliament with ex servicemen and reservists like admiral Roger Keyes MP. Peter may have been lurking around too. Yo Laxa.

In three campaign seasons France cracked and their boys refused to fight in offensive battles.
And they were making 17,000 shells a day in 1917.

Just goes to show why they had to make so many shells. No one could convince them to charge anymore.

Here’s what PeterFleming said about the Norway Campaign in 1940…of which he was the first man in.

http://www.linda-parker.co.uk/peter-fleming-in-the-norwegian-campaign/

. When Fleming arrived in London he found out that he had been reported dead. He had an interview with Churchill which was not conclusive, and returning to Namsos said to De Wiart “You can really do as you like, for they don’t know what they want done.” The decision was eventually made to evacuate Namsos, and this was accomplished by May 3 . Fleming commented in his diary “The errors were so gross, the muddles so pervasive and the whole affair over so quickly that there wasn’t a great deal to be learned from it.”

The key here would be untrammeled Ukrainian air supremacy.
Then the American designed tank might have its way.
Otherwise it is just another tin can.

The Ukrainains were driving a T-72 around Bakhmut a few days after Prigozhin declared it to be a Russian victory.

The Russian air force has mostly been a no-show.

I think Ukraine needs to probe for a weak point where they can demoralize the Russian public. The Russian State TV still depicts the war as being controlled by Putin. Remove that belief and a coup becomes more likely.

But the fact that you are even saying this shows that you have, at least subconsciously, given up on Ukraine defeating Russia on the battlefield.

Not at all. I already outlined how a single rout could undermine public morale and eventually lead to a coup.

That could then lead to Prigozhin being inserted by the military and withdrawing all troops. He stated publicly that the war is based on lies and was about egos.

I’m pleased with how Ukraine has done in this war. This war started with Western military analysts talking about how the war would go to partisan tactics within months. Meaning the main forces would be defeated and Kiev would fall. MacGregor and Ritter declared the war to be over.

Douglas Macgregor Declares Russian Victory: ‘The War Is Really Over for the Ukrainians. They Have Been Grounded to Bits’ (March 2022)
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/douglas-macgregor-declares-russian-victory-the-war-is-really-over-for-the-ukrainians-they-have-been-grounded-to-bits/

Although I’ve gone back and forth on who I expected to win the war, I generally regarded time as favoring the Ukrainians: the bumbling Russians would wear away as the Ukrainians get built into the strongest land army in the world aside from the United States.

Well I agree there. I think time favors the Ukrainians and that is partly why I thought it was a mistake for the West to push for a grand offensive. If their kill ratio was favorable in Bakhmut then let the Russians come in. Too many in the West think of war as some Hollywood movie. Everything I read about in Bakhmut suggested that Wagner/Russia was ignoring the lessons of WW1 and sending in human wave attacks. Well cut em down and send em back to where they came from. No need to risk stepping on a mine when the enemy is charging in broad daylight and with zero strategy. Putin’s Jewish chef didn’t read any of the German books on infantry tactics. Thank God for that. As far as I can tell Putin just holes away and mumbles to himself while his generals fight the war.

The only way to save Ukraine is for the West to retool it’s defense industry for mass production and to put a NATO force in Ukraine to prevent Russia from overrunning the entire country.

I see no reason to assume that. Russia has serious losses given that the latest POWs look like village drunks in Goodwill camo. I don’t buy theories of Russia “holding back” some professional auxiliary force.

Ukrainian losses could well indeed be worse than expected but Russia is sending in 2 week conscripts from the corners of the empire.

If Putin starts conscripting middle class Slavs from the cities then I will feel even better about the war. He has been trying to avoid that by focusing on poor rural Slavs and minorities. There are reports of ethnic minority villages being completely devoid of men. The Tsars and Communists have done this in the past. Send Tartars and Buryats to the front. Their families aren’t a threat to the empire. Putin fears the angry Slav with Viking blood that goes out for revenge. The crafty and angry Northman is a nightmare to everyone. It’s just unspoken. The anti-Putin rebel leader is very Anglo looking. Purely a coincidence I’m sure.

Good that you’re not deterred by the heat. I flew out of SLC on Sunday, putting my car in storage (I’m returning to the West in a month), and it was 101 degrees – I didn’t mind it at all! I did a nice late morning hike near Tremonton, Utah, on my drive from Sawtooth to the airport, and didn’t think the heat was at all overpowering. The skies were still piercingly clear and blue and the mountains bathed in golden light – what could I complain about? But as you say, mountain goats are not so easily bothered by – so-called by humans, feeble, fragile creatures – extreme weather, so I’m sure you enjoyed yourself thoroughly 🙂

I landed around midnight in NYC to 93% humidity and 75 degrees, and it was like stepping into a hot, soupy bath! It reminded me of the shock of my first trip to India in 2001 – NY stinks in the summer, too, like India or any tropical Asian country. It’s just a funky city.

Yep, the Sawtooths, despite not being particularly high, make up for it by being exceptionally rugged, and hiking in them is unexpectedly thrilling.

It’s funny – I was there last summer too, and did a few shorter hikes, and thought it was a great area – but somehow this time, I lingered and really entered into the rhythm and spirit of the place, and felt that it really revealed it’s soul and secrets to me. I’m not sure what changed but this time it really “hit different”, as the millennials say. I spent two weeks in that valley.

I did many long hikes deep into the backcountry, 20+ mile days, but other days I simply basked in the edenic glory of that broad and green valley. I had a fantastic and secluded dispersed camping spot high up on a promontory overlooking the valley, and those bright, cold mornings I’d spend drinking my coffee, congratulating myself on my good luck.

There are million dollar ranches in that pristine valley, and my view was every bit as good and private – for free 🙂 Who says you needs money?

The hot afternoons I’d spend dipping my feet into the cold rushing Salmon river which winds through the entire valley, and in the evenings I’d read from the Jade Mountain by Witter Bynner, a 9th century Tang era anthology of Chinese poetry – nothing evokes remote mountains, deserts, full moons, lonely border fortresses, armies in distant lands, distant journeys through wild country, wilderness hermits, pining princesses, and temples perched on remote cliffs, as Tang era poetry!

Everyone should read Tang poetry.

And then those hikes into the high land of rock, ice, and snow, to visit the Giants and Trolls – a completely different kind of pleasure,

Excellent point about the astounding variety of the American West, that probably surpasses that of anywhere else.

I spent part of the first few weeks of my trip in the red rock country of southern Utah, where this year’s cold spring stretched into the summer, making for perfectly cool weather.

Perhaps you’ll recognize this picture from a hike into the backcountry of a national park you’ve mentioned on this forum once before….

As long as Christianity was a living, vital thing it had a boundless capacity for reinvention and creative ferment, as everything alive changes and rigidity belongs to death, but all religions eventually die from “institutional capture”, and disappear into the enervating banality of the mainstream, where they are lost.

David Bentley Hart had an interesting recent essay on the future of Christianity – in it, he suggests Christendom cannot return, as it’s an exhausted historical form, but the mystical and gnostic (not to be confused with Gnosticism) religion of the early Christians which began to be suppressed almost from its inception, can – as it’s scarcely been tried.

Christian Populist Russia, and thus Putin, are a potential ally opposing IslamoGloboHomo.

By attacking and killing Ukrainian Orthodox Slavs? With Muslim Chechen forces? And a Jewish atheist chef with his own private army? Is that the Christian force?

You do acknowledge that Russia has Europe’s largest atheist and Muslim populations?

And that Ukraine has a higher percentage of Orthodox Christians?

Can you just confirm that with a “yes”?

PEACE 😇

You sign “peace” with every message and yet continually defend an unjust war.

Are you some confused hippie boomer that did too many drugs? You and other Putin defenders seem mentally unhealthy.

bro… we finally have a high budget Sikh animated film. It’s like Dreamworks got to make a film about Sikh historical event. Can’t wait till they drop the English dub version for everyone who doesn’t understand Punjabi 🔥💙⚔️https://t.co/K1W4w1KilL

— ਰੈਮਨਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ Raymon (@raymonnijjar) June 17, 2023

Watching now

I certainly have not read his books nor do I intent to. I am going off his very dramatic persona and what few tweets I’ve read.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand his notion of primitivism is bound up with men dominating women, the weak dominating the strong, and vitality understood as aggression – basically, the bad dream of civilization when it dreams of barbarians, and is more an angry rejection of civilized repression that remains defined by it rather than the innocence, purity, and spontaneity of of the truly natural state. More Hobbes than Rousseau.

The natural state sought by Zen and Taoism, and by the best passages of the Gospels, the untrammeled mind, free of the distortions, artificial constructs, and repressions of civilization which disfigure the personality and cramp the mind, and the second innocence and purity that come from returning to our true nature, is a very different thing indeed.

But if I’m wrong, please correct me.

Here’s a good article about the Jewish attitude towards revenge (I’ve been thinking a lot about revenge after reading the reactions of Ukraine supporters to that family killed on the Crimean bridge): https://www.torahmusings.com/2012/05/kahanism-and-vengeance/

My first introduction to real Judaism, as opposed to fake American “Judaism”, was from the writings of Rabbi Kahane. Kahane’s writings really spoke to me because here was a guy who hated leftists and Arabs as much as I did and was passionate about taking revenge on our (Jews) enemies.

I viewed Jews who opposed taking revenge as either stupid, weak, evil or all three. The only group of Jews I gave a pass on not supporting revenge was the Haredim because I just instinctively felt like their hearts were in the right place and I was able to accept that they just weren’t wired that way (if you’ve ever met any of them, you’d know what I’m talking about).

When your in jail, you have a lot of time just sitting there with your thoughts. Without all the distractions of real life I was able/forced to examine my own mind, thoughts and emotions on a much deeper level. It was then for the first time I could see that hating Russophiles/Lebanese/Iranians/White liberals whoever else was actually making me unhappy. I was using the hate like it was heroin: it gave a phenomenal high, at least at first, but it quickly developed into a dependency that was making me miserable without me even realizing it.

So I looked for answers about how to get away from it and I found Buddhism. I never became a Buddhist, or even thought about becoming one, but I read a lot of their stuff because they seemed to be the only one’s who actually spoke about practical elements of the mind as opposed to just a bunch of dogma that I don’t care about. And while I did find the Buddhist perspective towards revenge helpful, I was never intellectually or emotionally satisfied with it.

The article I cited above, when I read it it was just like, it felt like everything that I had been thinking about for all these years finally fell into place. I wouldn’t necessarily expect everyone else to react the same way, but I think most people can gain something from the perspective the article offers.

There is one really interesting line in the article. Referring to Rabbi Kahane’s attitude towards revenge, the writer states the following :

The [permissibility of taking revenge] is a matter of intent: Revenge out of anger or hatred is unacceptable but based on the desire to increase God’s glory is a mitzvah

I was fairly familiar with Kahane’s worldview, having read a decent amount of his work and having known some of his disciples (and their disciples), and I had no idea that Kahane had ever said such a thing. If you read any of Kahane’s writings or listened to him speak you would know that Kahane was a bottomless pit of anger and hatred and that those things obviously are what motivated his obsession with revenge. That Kahane actually denied his desire for revenge was motivated by hatred simply beggars belief. I’m really surprised that Kahane said that. I don’t know if he was just lying or it was a matter of him not being honest with himself.

*yes I still am obsessed with getting revenge on white liberals but now I merely want to get revenge by taking their power away. Before I went to jail I literally wanted to gas/starve to death 10s of millions of them.

He had an out of marriage affair with a shiksa, while having said that he opposed Jews marrying non-Jews.

https://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/06/weekinreview/remembering-kahane-and-the-woman-on-the-bridge.html

I think it may have been more than just one. He sounds like he was quite the ladies man. He was a pretty ordinary looking guy so I don’t know if he was really tall or something or it was just his fame that drew women too him.

I doubt whether armour will turn things around anyway. They are too easy for drones to detect, and too vulnerable to missiles. Kiev’s apparent switch to infantry infiltration attempts suggest that they have learned this.

Anyone against honor killing has a cuck fetish

BAP doesn’t favor a hippie-like spontaneity and naturalness…

BAP is a Nietzschean, so that influences his idea of what nature is, and his vitalism is the early 20th century European kind. I think a typical criticism made about Nietzsche, that he didn’t produce any moral philosophy because Nietzschean man is too individualistic to be part of any community would generally apply to BAP, he is mainly appealing to individuals or small groups, people who are attracted to his vision.

What you wrote to Emil:

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand his notion of primitivism is bound up with men dominating women, the weak dominating the strong, and vitality understood as aggression – basically, the bad dream of civilization when it dreams of barbarians, and is more an angry rejection of civilized repression that remains defined by it rather than the innocence, purity, and spontaneity of of the truly natural state. More Hobbes than Rousseau.

From BAP’s point of view the weak should not seek to dominate the strong, and he sees himself waging a struggle for freedom against the longhouse existence in which women (especially the obese and mulatto lesbians iirc) seek to confine European men.

Probably BAP’s debt to Nietzsche explains this, because Nietzsche and those influenced by him in the later 19th and early 20th century were a kind of reaction to the pervasive influence of Rousseau and a certain sort of Romanticism after the French Revolution. You can see the impact of Marx and Darwin there and later Bergson, and the way Rousseauism had become institutionalised in a regime like the IIIrd Republic in France.

The anarchism part would be related to some of the early anarchists like Proudhon, who as well as founding anarchist thinking wrote various spicy things about the corrupting influence of early feminists in his book Pornocratie, and revolutionary syndicalists like Georges Sorel, whose views also partially overlap with BAP and parts of the far-right.

Considering that WEF puppet IslamoPutin now is openly enforcing Quran worship as a sacred value for all in RF, some just are becoming desperate while trying unsuccesfully to obfuscate it as much as possible;)

But when this war finally ends, it’s gonna be on Russia’s terms. The US should be able to save Kiev but Kherson, Kharkov, Odessa and the rest of the Donbas are gone.

These are just worthless pontifications if no any timetables are given;) Meanwhile UA is continuing methodically blowing RF ammo depots, now in Crimea, but it remains to be seen whether achieved material attrition rates will be enough for UA army to convert it into notable territorial gains till autumn. If not, my bet is on the de facto freeze of current lines at least for several years.

Timetable:
1. Russian offensive towards Kharkov begins in late August
2. Ukrainian offensive officially called off in early September
3. Russia conquers Kharkov in January/February
4. United States asks for terms
5. Peace negotiations begin in March 2024
6. Peace deal in May 2024

Now you suddenly managed to lose Odessa&Kherson city again;) And Nikolaev too, unless you think RF wil be magically able to take Odessa just from sea without taking Nikolaev first, lol

He claims to be apolitical. Not a supporter of Donald Trump. Or his actor front man does so. He, she, or it is possibly a fiction project staffed by a committee. Of innovative entrepeneurs or CIA spooks or Macedonian freedom fighters.

I don’t look at twitter on my phone ever and skim over fast when somebody posts it on a computer page I am seeing. He, she, or it believes in Nietzsche, not God.

I think that Nikolaev, Odessa and Kherson will be handed over to Russia in negotiations.

“Israel’s 1948 Declaration of Independence, which pledges that Israel will “uphold the full social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of race, creed or sex.” We can argue about whether that promise was ever compatible with a political project that, in creating a national home for one oppressed and stateless people, made refugees of another. What’s important today, however, is that Israel’s leadership no longer even appears to aspire to this founding ideal.

NYT

Israel🤔

“Israel is not a state of all its citizens,” Netanyahu wrote in 2019. “According to the basic nationality law we passed, Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people — and only it.” He was referring to a 2018 law,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/opinion/israel-racist-state-pramila-jayapal.html

Nation ,Religion ,State or Cow or Snake -so many words are used by Israel to describe themselves or be appreacited that way by other ,depending on the need of the hour , that peace is war to them ,colonization is empowerment and they never thought of destroying Iraq using America let alone doing it .

Prior to seeing this yesterday I thought BAP was ~.99 overlap/correlate with Anglin.

https://americanmind.org/tag/bronze-age-pervert/

This one (Michael Anton teaches at Claremont) is where I started:

https://americanmind.org/salvo/which-way-jester-man/

Christian Populist Russia, and thus Putin, are a potential ally opposing IslamoGloboHomo.

By attacking and killing Ukrainian Orthodox Slavs?

Sigh… Let me try again…

This was originally kicked off by an Open Borders Islamophile, Not-a-Jew Merkel. The Greater European Empire [GEE] is currently led by Not-a-Jew Scholz and Not-a-Jew Macron. Post-Judaic apostate Zelensky is controlled by the GEE. Similarly Not-The-President Biden is a lobotomite puppet controlled by Europe.

Judeo-Christians on BOTH sides — Russian and Ukrainian — are victims of the IslamoGloboHomo GEE.

The GEE ordered Zelensky to abuse and kill Russian ethnics for years. Why is anyone surprised that Russia finally reacted to those unjust war crimes?

PEACE 😇

Taq Taq Taqya

I am Jew . I believe in Oslo and 2 nation states .

“ There will never be a Palestine state . PA works for us”- Netanyahu

“ We will drag Oslo and pretend that we are sincere “- Shamir , Sharon ,Barak and their 123

Taq Taq Taqiya
I am a Jew
I am establishing this nation which will follow democracy , freedom , right for all .

“Israel’s 1948 Declaration of Independence, which pledges that Israel will “uphold the full social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of race, creed or sex.” We can argue about whether that promise was ever compatible with a political project that, in creating a national home for one oppressed and stateless people, made refugees of another. What’s important today, however, is that Israel’s leadership no longer even appears to aspire to this founding ideal.

“Israel is not a state of all its citizens,” Netanyahu wrote in 2019. “According to the basic nationality law we passed, Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people — and only it.” He was referring to a 2018 law,”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/opinion/israel-racist-state-pramila-jayapal.html

Taq Taq Taqiya

I am a Jew .
We don’t support but fight torture , spying , attack on innocents

“ Israel has not stopped sharing Pegasus to autocratic regimes. Israel continues to supply arms to Mynamar ,
It supplied arms and sent money to Latin American torture regimes .
It helped military leaders of Sudan-and Egypt

It harvests organs from poor citizens using America. Albania and Ukraine and stela’s organs from Palestinian “

We have another mentally ill commenter being placed on the IGNORE list.

It only took two posts to conform total dysfunction. That might be a record for antisocial deviancy.

PEACE 😇

Why would Ukraine agree to something so stupid, especially seeing that these towns are currently strongly under Ukrainian control? Most of the inhabitants are pro-Ukrainian. Leaving Russia with Donbas would be more than a generous option, and is what the current Russian propaganda is aimed at. I think that whatever the current areas of control are at the time of negotiations will figure most prominently into the “peace settlement”. Don’t put the cart before the horse.

Are you putting yourself on ignore? Everybody else at this blog already has done so. You should consider crawling into your little mancave where you can continue building your shrine to Trump. Shrines and memorial plaques look like that’s all that will soon be left of him…

United States counties w/ population density less than 6 people per square mile.

I think Russia can meet Greasy’s schedule but they will have to go far beyond this to create a stable peace once the SMO ends. They have not de-NeoNAZIfied most of the country or even de-NATOized it. Until they do more of that work the Ukrainians cannot be expected to respect any terms.

I think Russia wants to leave Odessa open until they accomplish the D-3N goals. This is my new military acronym: D-3N = de-(NeoNAZI and NATO).