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最快的 试用 自去年以来 公报 on the raping and pimping of underage English girls in Rotherham is underway, with 5 Muslim pimps and two white madams charged. Some of the crimes go all the way back to the 1980s.
It’s important to keep a few things in mind:
First, there’s not much evidence that Rotherham is unusual, other than that it was the first city in England to publish an honest inquiry into what has been going on all over England for decades. Indeed, I spent a few days in 2013 researching the general topic of Pakistani grooming of English adolescent girls for a 塔基的 栏. But when the Rotherham report came out in 2014, I had literally never heard of Rotherham. I actually thought my readers emailing me must be confused about how to spell Rotterdam in the Netherlands.
Second, the general topic of Muslim sexual exploitation of English adolescent girls was covered up for more than a decade for reasons of anti-racist ideology. In practice, it often turns out that:
Political Correctness = Rape
Third, journalists are highly dependent upon government reports and legal records. When I looked into Pakistani grooming in 2013, it was obvious what was going on. But most people aren’t very good at pattern recognition, especially when they are told over and over that noticing is evil.
But give journalists an official document to quote and they’re a lot more likely to be good to go. If you pay careful attention to Tom McCarthy’s pretty good new movie 聚焦 about some 波士顿环球报 reporters investigating sexual abuse by gay Catholic priests in the Boston archdiocese, you’ll notice the same thing as in Britain with the Pakistani pimps. I won’t say more because I’ll possibly write a longer review at some point, especially if 聚焦 gets a lot of Oscar nominations. But, for now, let me just say: to make sense of what’s really happening, don’t get too intrigued by the journalists’ 史蒂夫-like statistical analysis. Instead, keep an eye on the plaintiff’s lawyer character who is played by Stanley Tucci in a wig.
ot/ a yale frat racism update
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/11/yale-investigation-finds-no-evidence-of-racism-at-frat-party-alleged-to-have-been-for-white-girls-only/
我很想成为那里的兄弟会领袖并说服兄弟们采取这个立场：
回复：@JEGG、@AndrewR
@冈瑟
Regarding the Yale frat party alleged racism, it should be obvious to anyone paying attention that this is all agitprop.
UVA, Mizzou, Yale, Rowan, Harvard Law, all of it.
It serves two purposes. One is the traditonal function of agitprop: creating false incidents in order to implement measures that wouldn't be otherwise. The second is to serve as a filter. Any people, groups and mass media that accept these incidents as real are allies, anyone who doesn't is the enemy.
It was kind of stupid to investigate anyway. I mean, what kind of proof could there have been even if it was true? Unless the bouncer or whoever admitted it, they'd never be able to prove it anyway.
Of course, the BLM types realize this. It'll go down in their mythology and stay there forever. They'll still claim it happened, but it just couldn't be proven one way or the other.
I always wonder why people would make up stories so dumb. Could anyone at Yale really be so stupid as to ADMIT that they were not allowing black people in, in a day and age when everything you say could easily be recorded?
But that's probably why. Because it doesn't matter to the other activist types that it's a stupid story. It'll still serve its purpose for as long as they want it to.
回复：@Hhsiii
IIRC the frat brother at the door was black.
For people who want to understand the scale of it there’s a map here which links to all – or at least a lot of – the local newspaper reports.
https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map/
nb the vast majority of these cases aren’t reported nationally – only locally – so most people have no idea of the true scale.
nb obviously these are also only the cases that went to trial since 2012 when the story finally got into the media.
Pakistani rape gangs are absolutely an example of predatory, exploit-any-softness, low-trust people living in high-trust societies that value individualism and the restrained self.
A toxic clan heritage, marinaded in an intolerant and spiteful religion, and combined with straight-forward racism, has been permitted to hunt freely at a moment when, for various reasons, the west has defended itself badly against those who do not play by the rules.
So: 1) where Pakistanis and their ilk can do it they will do it 2) there will eventually be a reaction.
Thanks. Perhaps one should start mapping incidents in Germany. A dynamic map with time stamps would be informative with each incident linked to local reports. Information about migrant crime is being actively suppressed by the government, so any numbers would be underestimates.
This is off-topic, but you’ve written a bit how the dominant coalition in the Democratic party now is quite distant from the stance of Jefferson & Jackson (which was not the case earlier in the 20th century). Matthew Yglesias recently wrote about the history of that intellectual shift 此处.
They even got rid of the dinners!
Then again, the Republican party was formed to oppose slavery, so...
回复：@ Ivy，@ RegCæsar
Trump probably knows about Rotherham. Get Trump to say it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/11/yale-investigation-finds-no-evidence-of-racism-at-frat-party-alleged-to-have-been-for-white-girls-only/
Replies: @TangoMan, @NJ Transit Commuter, @anon, @snorlax
I’d love to be a frat leader there and convince the bros to take this position:
I would like for the issue of whether it's racist to be sexually interested only in members of one race to become a big time front page issue. It may be the only way to get across to the public at large of how ridiculous the overuse of the term racist has become. If you can't sexually respond to a particular race, no amount of diversity training is going to be able to turn this around.
Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Truth, @Anonymous
hbd 人的问题是为什么其他南亚人如锡克教徒和印度教徒不会以同样的速度犯下这些罪行。
我不记得有一个 HBD 人说种族就是一切。 如果我们这样做了，我们将不得不解释为什么黑人凶杀率在 XNUMX 年代突然飙升，而他们的基因并不是在一夜之间突然改变的。
回复：@Wilkey、@guy、@Reg Cæsar
“hbd 人的问题是，为什么锡克教徒和印度教徒等其他南亚人不会以同样的速度犯下这些罪行。”
为什么这是一个问题？ 现在的德国人比纳粹德国人好。 现在的南方人比战前、持有奴隶的南方人要好。 这里有没有人否认意识形态可以使人变得讨厌和卑鄙而独立于遗传？ 我不这么认为。
在某种程度上，伊斯兰狂热似乎确实存在遗传性、HBD 因素：阿拉伯和非洲穆斯林似乎远比欧洲和东南亚穆斯林差。
南亚穆斯林表现出的一些特征在非穆斯林的南亚人身上也很明显：例如，狂热的民族中心主义。 在印度，穆斯林和印度教徒可能互相咬牙切齿，但在美国，他们似乎常常为共同的事业而努力。
回复：@rec1man，@Cryptogenic
印度的亚精英印度人会做一些令人讨厌的事情，比如在穆斯林社区横冲直撞。 随着他们在这里的孩子长大，预计会遇到更多麻烦。
回复：@Reg Cæsar、@anon、@Erik Sieven、@Cryptogenic
与印度教徒或锡克教徒相比，南亚穆斯林之间的近亲近亲繁殖（即表亲婚姻）要密切得多。 见表 此处 关于印度的婚姻，并注意按宗教划分的表亲结婚率（穆斯林为 21.4%，印度教徒为 8.5%，锡克教徒为 1.2%——那是在 90 年代）。 并且知道巴基斯坦的表亲结婚率是 大约 50%.
回复：@LondonBob
这是因为英国-巴基斯坦穆斯林在性方面更受挫。 未婚的巴基斯坦女孩被关在家里，大约一半的英国巴基斯坦人嫁给了她们的表妹。 不是性满足的男人的食谱。 想象一下，如果你在 20 多岁的时候嫁给了你的堂兄，你的性生活会是什么样子。 印度教徒和锡克教徒没有表亲婚姻，对婚前性活动的限制也没有那么严格。 所以我认为他们的性生活会更好。
另一个因素是印度教徒和锡克教徒属于中产阶级。 巴基斯坦人中有很大比例的低收入者居住在补贴的议会住宅区附近。 卖淫在这些地区很常见。 我的猜测是，很多巴基斯坦人出于机会主义的原因卷入了卖淫活动。 他们看到了机会（低收入女孩为了毒品/酒精/金钱而出卖自己）并加以利用。 最初，我打赌巴基斯坦人是白人皮条客和夫人的客户，但后来一些更狡猾的巴基斯坦人决定他们也可以成为皮条客。
当工党于 1997 年上台时，他们让英国穆斯林从国内引进新娘变得更加容易。 这可能会增加表亲婚姻和性挫败男性的流行率。
回复：@Anonym，@anon
我可以给你两个 HDB 理由：
1. 穆斯林比锡克教徒和印度教徒更能接受近亲繁殖。 当然，近亲繁殖是基因缺陷的。
2. 当伊斯兰教第一次传播到印度时，大量的皈依者来自不可接触的种姓，由于几个世纪以来在其种姓内的选择性交配，他们已经出现了基因缺陷。
如前所述，不仅没有认真的 HBD 思想家甚至暗示环境因素在文化中没有作用，而且这些穆斯林可能比他们的印度教信仰的远亲近亲更近亲。 所以不，这里没有问题。
Proving, once again, that just looking for ties to terrorism isn’t really going to cut it. I bet every single one of those guys would have been clean as a whistle, legally.
If anyone wants to read anything really depressing:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2739799/Why-millions-Pakistani-children-falling-prey-vicious-paedophiles.html
You are correct to point out that sexual abuse in the Catholic Church is by gay priests, not so-called “pedophiles.” The media distorts the reality.
What? Not all gays are pedophiles. Not all gay priests are pedophiles. The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality.
Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon, @Percy Gryce, @Bill
我想自从维斯塔贞女崇拜衰落并被基督教取代以来，这一直是这份工作的福利之一。
回复：@ReaderfromGreece
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
I don’t recall a single HBD person saying that race was simply EVERYTHING. If we did, we would have had to explain why the black homicide rate suddenly shot up in the sixties, when it’s not like their genes suddenly changed overnight.
"I don’t recall a single HBD person saying that race was simply EVERYTHING. If we did, we would have had to explain why the black homicide rate suddenly shot up in the sixties, when it’s not like their genes suddenly changed overnight."
Precisely - or the rapid decline in birthrates, which is not entirely explicable by the invention of the pill.
穆斯林群体的近亲繁殖率远高于他们不同宗教的种族亲属，这可能导致我们看到的许多行为问题。 然而，伊斯兰教是最重要的因素（如果排除非洲人后裔）
Same sh*t in collegiate athletics, different country.
That’s your rape culture, right there.
And it has all happened before.
例如，参见 The Great War on White Slavery, or, Fighting for the Protection of Our Girls, from 1911, which begins:
威廉·T·斯特德“ 裸露 有权 现代巴比伦的处女贡品.
In those days, too, the tendency to look the other way was blamed on the political correctness of the times: the taboo against discussing sex.
But, after all, they were only working class girls.
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
“the problem for hbd people is why the other south Asian people like Sikhs and Hindus don’t commit these crimes at the same rate.”
Why is that a problem? Present-day Germans are better than Nazi Germans. Present-day Southerners are better than antebellum, slave-holding Southerners. Does anyone here deny that ideology can make people nasty and mean independent of genetics? I don’t think so.
在某种程度上，伊斯兰狂热似乎确实存在遗传性、HBD 因素：阿拉伯和非洲穆斯林似乎远比欧洲和东南亚穆斯林差。
Some of the traits exhibited by South Asian Muslims are also pretty strong in South Asians who aren’t Muslim: rabid ethnocentrism, for example. In India Muslims and Hindus may be at each other’s throats, but in America they often seem to make common cause with each other.
BJP type hindus in USA are extremely anti-muslim and have allied with jewish Kahanist organisations in an anti-muslim front
Many BJP Hindus are active supporters of Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer
Many of my UK Hindu friends donated to BNP - Nick Griffin
Leftist Hindus are pro-muslim
回复：@SFG，@epebble
"Present-day Southerners are better than antebellum, slave-holding Southerners."
Speak for yourself. Cf. Mencken's "The Sahara of the Bozart."
我不记得有一个 HBD 人说种族就是一切。 如果我们这样做了，我们将不得不解释为什么黑人凶杀率在 XNUMX 年代突然飙升，而他们的基因并不是在一夜之间突然改变的。
回复：@Wilkey、@guy、@Reg Cæsar
“I don’t recall a single HBD person saying that race was simply EVERYTHING. If we did, we would have had to explain why the black homicide rate suddenly shot up in the sixties, when it’s not like their genes suddenly changed overnight.”
Precisely – or the rapid decline in birthrates, which is not entirely explicable by the invention of the pill.
我不记得有一个 HBD 人说种族就是一切。 如果我们这样做了，我们将不得不解释为什么黑人凶杀率在 XNUMX 年代突然飙升，而他们的基因并不是在一夜之间突然改变的。
回复：@Wilkey、@guy、@Reg Cæsar
穆斯林群体的近亲繁殖率远高于他们不同宗教的种族亲属，这可能导致我们看到的许多行为问题。 然而，伊斯兰教是最重要的因素（如果排除非洲人后裔）
Here’s another quote from the introduction of the above mentioned book:
While they knew how to turn a phrase in the old days, a lot of it is rather sensationalised.
Off topic aside: speaking of turning a phrase in the old days, Malthus’ original essay on the ‘Principle of Population’ is worth reading, I thought.
OT。
Check out the Chinese poster for the new Star Wars:
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2015/12/more-sjw-racial-problems-for-star-wars.html?_sm_au_=iMVSqkjVTLNGFGqJ
"OT.
Check out the Chinese poster for the new Star Wars:"
I don't see what the big deal is with a black character in Star Wars. The last movies had one: Samuel L. "Loud Black Man" Jackson playing Mace Dindu.
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
Seen from my perspective in the software industry, the average quality of Indian immigrants has declined as we ramped up our rate of intake these last 10-15 years. The Indians I met in the 90s seemed to be a lot more high-achieving — reasonably corresponding to the official rationale for the H1B program. The more recent arrivals are mostly diploma-mill graduates brought over plainly to replace entry-level Americans.
印度的亚精英印度人会做一些令人讨厌的事情，比如在穆斯林社区横冲直撞。 随着他们在这里的孩子长大，预计会遇到更多麻烦。
Sub-elite Indians in India do nasty things like rampage through Muslim neighborhoods. Expect to see more trouble as their kids here grow up.
Don't they typically do that in response to things like the Mumbai bombing? Then, it was their way of making sure the Muslims knew who was in charge. Do they do it other times too, though. I admit my knowledge of what goes on in India is pretty limited.
Replies: @epebble, @Travis
yes Hindu Indians have a little bit more resistance to dogmatic antiracism than Westerners
"The Indian Genius" is one of the most pernicious modern myths. There are over a billion Indians on the subcontinent, the overwhelming majority of them distinctly not brilliant. Oftentimes just acknowledging matters of scale and over/under-representation is enough to prove a "controversial" HBD point.
回复：@Francis G.
我不记得有一个 HBD 人说种族就是一切。 如果我们这样做了，我们将不得不解释为什么黑人凶杀率在 XNUMX 年代突然飙升，而他们的基因并不是在一夜之间突然改变的。
回复：@Wilkey、@guy、@Reg Cæsar
Or, as I’ve pointed out a few times here, why today’s white bastardy rate is nearly twice the black rate of 1960. That would be rapid genetic collapse. Most of us assume it’s environmental.
印度的亚精英印度人会做一些令人讨厌的事情，比如在穆斯林社区横冲直撞。 随着他们在这里的孩子长大，预计会遇到更多麻烦。
回复：@Reg Cæsar、@anon、@Erik Sieven、@Cryptogenic
Maybe we should let those Indians in– they’d dissuade the Moslems from coming. Backhanded Trumpism!
从你的塔基的文章：
How a British person could live in Britain today, and not be in a state of white-hot rage most of the time, is beyond me.
In the US, the SJWs would just gang up on you and get you fired from your job, which is bad enough, but to go to jail over it? It must be one of those subtle cultural differences, like eating baked beans for breakfast.
And outside the Anglosphere, most people don’t seem to have a problem with this kind of thing at all.
Loretta Lynch wants to make it a crime here too. That would be the end of free speech. There wouldn’t be anywhere in the world anymore where you could say the kind of stuff Nick Griffin said. It bothered me when I first heard about that, but it didn’t really sink in at first. It would be like killing off the last of some majestic endangered species, and all because she wanted to pander to Muslims after they attacked us.
印度的亚精英印度人会做一些令人讨厌的事情，比如在穆斯林社区横冲直撞。 随着他们在这里的孩子长大，预计会遇到更多麻烦。
回复：@Reg Cæsar、@anon、@Erik Sieven、@Cryptogenic
Sub-elite Indians in India do nasty things like rampage through Muslim neighborhoods. Expect to see more trouble as their kids here grow up.
Don’t they typically do that in response to things like the Mumbai bombing? Then, it was their way of making sure the Muslims knew who was in charge. Do they do it other times too, though. I admit my knowledge of what goes on in India is pretty limited.
I think there is a lot of latent hatred for Islam and Muslims due to hundreds of years of Dhimmitude suffered and also due to violence due to partition. This is very similar to Jewish attitudes towards Islam/Muslims and current/future attitudes of U.S. non-Muslims towards Islam & Muslims.
This is an excellent article on the origins of hate (of Americans toward Islam) http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/428349/hidden-reason-why-americans-dislike-islam-david-french
回复：@RegCæsar
A 50-year-old man in northern India has been killed in a mob lynching allegedly over rumours that his family had been consuming beef at home.
Mr Akhlaq, a farm worker, was asleep next to his son when a mob burst in wielding sticks, swords and pistols. The villagers accused the nine-member family of having slaughtered and consumed a cow. Mr Akhlaq and his son were beaten with bricks, kicked and stabbed repeatedly.
The incident happened in a village, near the Indian capital, Delhi. Some meat found in the fridge was held to be proof that beef had been eaten. Later, tests confirmed it was goat meat not beef.
http://time.com/4060906/dadri-lynching-beef-bisara-mohammad-akhlaq/
回复：@anon
嘿，说到强奸，你们向我保证，媒体会把这种案件写成新闻；是什么赋予了？
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daniel-holtzclaw-and-the-reality-of-police-brutality-against-black-women_566b0b4ee4b080eddf580671
They can call him white in the newspapers but he doesn't look white enough for TV.
I guess they learned their lesson after assuming someone with a name like Zimmerman would be white.
good attempted deflection though - well not really - in either sense of the word
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Truth, @ben tillman
I can think of three reasons they'd sit on this story:
The guy can plead insanity-- after all, he's going to bed, or floor or wall, with a string of black women he doesn't know. Most of us don't want to go there.
Maybe he's white, but he looks a lot like Jon Gosselin in that photo. Would that make him a "white Korean"?
Finally, a rapist cop… Hmmm, does that remind us of any recent office holders inexplicably popular with Journolist types? Who happen to be married to other recent office holders just as popular?
That's the last thing they want to bring to the public mind right now!
Nope, he's a hapa. His own father is genetically closer to any random white he happens to pass on the street than to this guy.
下次祝你好运，图夫。
回复：@Kylie
Missed it by THAT much (--> | | <--), Truth!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daniel-holtzclaw-and-the-reality-of-police-brutality-against-black-women_566b0b4ee4b080eddf580671
回复：@anon、@Reg Cæsar、@Kudzu Bob、@anon
They can call him white in the newspapers but he doesn’t look white enough for TV.
I guess they learned their lesson after assuming someone with a name like Zimmerman would be white.
good attempted deflection though – well not really – in either sense of the word
His dad is white and his mom is apparently Japanese.
http://www.whio.com/ap/ap/oklahoma/oklahoma-ex-cop-guilty-of-18-counts-in-sex-assault/pCtrCb/
回复：@anon，@Anonymous
What "lesson" did the press learn with Zimmerman? I'm not following?
回复：@CK
回复：@anon
Sub-elite Indians in India do nasty things like rampage through Muslim neighborhoods. Expect to see more trouble as their kids here grow up.
Don't they typically do that in response to things like the Mumbai bombing? Then, it was their way of making sure the Muslims knew who was in charge. Do they do it other times too, though. I admit my knowledge of what goes on in India is pretty limited.
Replies: @epebble, @Travis
I think there is a lot of latent hatred for Islam and Muslims due to hundreds of years of Dhimmitude suffered and also due to violence due to partition. This is very similar to Jewish attitudes towards Islam/Muslims and current/future attitudes of U.S. non-Muslims towards Islam & Muslims.
This is an excellent article on the origins of hate (of Americans toward Islam) http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/428349/hidden-reason-why-americans-dislike-islam-david-french
They didn't call them sandniззers for nothing. (Or was that the "first" Gulf War"?)
Note, too, that Likud's electoral strength comes from the segment with the longest family memories of life among the Arabs. No Frankfurt School fluff for them.
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
与印度教徒或锡克教徒相比，南亚穆斯林之间的近亲近亲繁殖（即表亲婚姻）要密切得多。 见表 此处 关于印度的婚姻，并注意按宗教划分的表亲结婚率（穆斯林为 21.4%，印度教徒为 8.5%，锡克教徒为 1.2%——那是在 90 年代）。 并且知道巴基斯坦的表亲结婚率是 大约 50%.
伊斯兰教为低种姓的印度教徒提供了一条出路。 较低质量的源材料。 印度教徒仍然比不上帕西人。
“hbd 人的问题是，为什么锡克教徒和印度教徒等其他南亚人不会以同样的速度犯下这些罪行。”
为什么这是一个问题？ 现在的德国人比纳粹德国人好。 现在的南方人比战前、持有奴隶的南方人要好。 这里有没有人否认意识形态可以使人变得讨厌和卑鄙而独立于遗传？ 我不这么认为。
在某种程度上，伊斯兰狂热似乎确实存在遗传性、HBD 因素：阿拉伯和非洲穆斯林似乎远比欧洲和东南亚穆斯林差。
南亚穆斯林表现出的一些特征在非穆斯林的南亚人身上也很明显：例如，狂热的民族中心主义。 在印度，穆斯林和印度教徒可能互相咬牙切齿，但在美国，他们似乎常常为共同的事业而努力。
回复：@rec1man，@Cryptogenic
BJP type hindus in USA are extremely anti-muslim and have allied with jewish Kahanist organisations in an anti-muslim front
Many BJP Hindus are active supporters of Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer
Many of my UK Hindu friends donated to BNP – Nick Griffin
Leftist Hindus are pro-muslim
I had...never heard this. Once they're here they seem to melt into an undifferentiated 'brown' mass, largely because Americans can't tell the difference (and ran around attacking Sikh and Hindu temples as a result, which I think is awful).
It is true Israel and India are friends for the obvious reason (common enemy), and Hindu Americans seem to hold Jews in high regard (basically using them as a template for their own community's road to success, largely successfully from what I've seen), but I've never heard of a united front. Is this a British thing?
回复：@ rec1man
so BJP ~ 'Republican'/'Trump' and Leftist Hindu ~ 'Democrat'/Clintonista ?
回复：@ rec1man
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daniel-holtzclaw-and-the-reality-of-police-brutality-against-black-women_566b0b4ee4b080eddf580671
回复：@anon、@Reg Cæsar、@Kudzu Bob、@anon
I can think of three reasons they’d sit on this story:
The guy can plead insanity– after all, he’s going to bed, or floor or wall, with a string of black women he doesn’t know. Most of us don’t want to go there.
Maybe he’s white, but he looks a lot like Jon Gosselin in that photo. Would that make him a “white Korean”?
Finally, a rapist cop… Hmmm, does that remind us of any recent office holders inexplicably popular with Journolist types? Who happen to be married to other recent office holders just as popular?
That’s the last thing they want to bring to the public mind right now!
Sub-elite Indians in India do nasty things like rampage through Muslim neighborhoods. Expect to see more trouble as their kids here grow up.
Don't they typically do that in response to things like the Mumbai bombing? Then, it was their way of making sure the Muslims knew who was in charge. Do they do it other times too, though. I admit my knowledge of what goes on in India is pretty limited.
Replies: @epebble, @Travis
A 50-year-old man in northern India has been killed in a mob lynching allegedly over rumours that his family had been consuming beef at home.
Mr Akhlaq, a farm worker, was asleep next to his son when a mob burst in wielding sticks, swords and pistols. The villagers accused the nine-member family of having slaughtered and consumed a cow. Mr Akhlaq and his son were beaten with bricks, kicked and stabbed repeatedly.
The incident happened in a village, near the Indian capital, Delhi. Some meat found in the fridge was held to be proof that beef had been eaten. Later, tests confirmed it was goat meat not beef.
http://time.com/4060906/dadri-lynching-beef-bisara-mohammad-akhlaq/
OK. Well, I guess that answers that. Thanks. I had no idea.
Those old books on white slavery are probably dismissed, these days, as Victorian prudery against prostitution, or even against women’s sexual freedom, and the exaggeration of the innocence of the girls and force used to keep them in prostituion as mere propaganda towards that end. Given the parallels with the muslim abuse of white girls today, I am inclined to give the anti-white slavery activists more of the benefit of doubt.
从 The Traffic in Girls，1900：
We know that many of the english girls, even if—having been bribed and cajoled—they were knowing and willing at first, were later threatened, forced and drugged. Neither do I, like a Victorian, think it was right even if they were knowing and willing.
At least they weren’t, as Nick Griffin was, brought up on criminal charges for trying to draw attention to it.
They can call him white in the newspapers but he doesn't look white enough for TV.
I guess they learned their lesson after assuming someone with a name like Zimmerman would be white.
good attempted deflection though - well not really - in either sense of the word
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Truth, @ben tillman
His dad is white and his mom is apparently Japanese.
http://www.whio.com/ap/ap/oklahoma/oklahoma-ex-cop-guilty-of-18-counts-in-sex-assault/pCtrCb/
and he doesn't look white.
回复：@ 5371
I think there is a lot of latent hatred for Islam and Muslims due to hundreds of years of Dhimmitude suffered and also due to violence due to partition. This is very similar to Jewish attitudes towards Islam/Muslims and current/future attitudes of U.S. non-Muslims towards Islam & Muslims.
This is an excellent article on the origins of hate (of Americans toward Islam) http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/428349/hidden-reason-why-americans-dislike-islam-david-french
回复：@RegCæsar
They didn’t call them sandniззers for nothing. (Or was that the “first” Gulf War”?)
Note, too, that Likud’s electoral strength comes from the segment with the longest family memories of life among the Arabs. No Frankfurt School fluff for them.
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
It’s because British-Pakistani Muslims are more sexually frustrated. Unmarried Paki girls are kept locked up at home and about half of British Pakis marry their cousin. Not a recipe for sexually contented men. Imagine what your sex life would be like if you married your cousin in your mid 20s. The Hindus and Sikhs have no cousin marriage and less strict constraints on premarital sexual activity. So I’d assume their sex lives are better.
另一个因素是印度教徒和锡克教徒属于中产阶级。 巴基斯坦人中有很大比例的低收入者居住在补贴的议会住宅区附近。 卖淫在这些地区很常见。 我的猜测是，很多巴基斯坦人出于机会主义的原因卷入了卖淫活动。 他们看到了机会（低收入女孩为了毒品/酒精/金钱而出卖自己）并加以利用。 最初，我打赌巴基斯坦人是白人皮条客和夫人的客户，但后来一些更狡猾的巴基斯坦人决定他们也可以成为皮条客。
When the Labor party came to power in 1997, they made it a lot easier for British Muslims to import brides from back home. That’s probably had the effect of increasing the prevalence of cousin marriage and sexually frustrated men.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/uk-muslim-abducts-rapes-woman-you-white-women-are-good-at-it
This whole sexual frustration bit is overblown. According to Islam infidel women are fair game. It is not wrong in their religion, part of the spoils of Jihad. Seriously, why not just read the Koran? It is shorter than the New Testament.
Cousin marriage has two effects on this imo.
1) It seems to make people tighter with their in-group but more hostile to out-groups. This is the hbd part.
2) Enforcing very strict cousin marriage requires a lot of cultural control on the women. So all these cultural behaviors: FGM, honor killing etc are a part of that cultural control. Another aspect of that control mechanism is it's considered okay to rape a woman who isn't covered up adequately or a woman who is outside on her own without a male relative.
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3) I don't think it technically applies outside of open war situations like Isis but the Koran says it's okay to rape non-muslim women as part of jihad. However this may be more of an excuse than a reason imo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daniel-holtzclaw-and-the-reality-of-police-brutality-against-black-women_566b0b4ee4b080eddf580671
回复：@anon、@Reg Cæsar、@Kudzu Bob、@anon
不，他是个哈帕。他自己的父亲在基因上更接近他在街上偶然经过的任何白人，而不是这个家伙。
下次祝你好运，图夫。
葛鲍勃，很高兴见到你。
回复：@Steve Sailer
Nope, he's a hapa. His own father is genetically closer to any random white he happens to pass on the street than to this guy.
下次祝你好运，图夫。
回复：@Kylie
葛鲍勃，很高兴见到你。
欢迎回来。
回复：@Kylie
No Behind Left Behind
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daniel-holtzclaw-and-the-reality-of-police-brutality-against-black-women_566b0b4ee4b080eddf580671
回复：@anon、@Reg Cæsar、@Kudzu Bob、@anon
Missed it by THAT much (–> | | <–), Truth!
美国有机会学习英国的例子并防止它发生。
（尽管它几乎肯定已经发生在像迪尔伯恩这样的百分比已经足够高的地方。）
Dearborn is 40% Arab but most of them are Christians from Lebanon. I live near Dearborn and actually it's a pretty nice place (lot nicer than nearby Detroit).
回复：@AndrewR
His dad is white and his mom is apparently Japanese.
http://www.whio.com/ap/ap/oklahoma/oklahoma-ex-cop-guilty-of-18-counts-in-sex-assault/pCtrCb/
回复：@anon，@Anonymous
and he doesn’t look white.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/11/yale-investigation-finds-no-evidence-of-racism-at-frat-party-alleged-to-have-been-for-white-girls-only/
Replies: @TangoMan, @NJ Transit Commuter, @anon, @snorlax
@冈瑟
Regarding the Yale frat party alleged racism, it should be obvious to anyone paying attention that this is all agitprop.
UVA, Mizzou, Yale, Rowan, Harvard Law, all of it.
It serves two purposes. One is the traditonal function of agitprop: creating false incidents in order to implement measures that wouldn’t be otherwise. The second is to serve as a filter. Any people, groups and mass media that accept these incidents as real are allies, anyone who doesn’t is the enemy.
A 50-year-old man in northern India has been killed in a mob lynching allegedly over rumours that his family had been consuming beef at home.
Mr Akhlaq, a farm worker, was asleep next to his son when a mob burst in wielding sticks, swords and pistols. The villagers accused the nine-member family of having slaughtered and consumed a cow. Mr Akhlaq and his son were beaten with bricks, kicked and stabbed repeatedly.
The incident happened in a village, near the Indian capital, Delhi. Some meat found in the fridge was held to be proof that beef had been eaten. Later, tests confirmed it was goat meat not beef.
http://time.com/4060906/dadri-lynching-beef-bisara-mohammad-akhlaq/
回复：@anon
OK. Well, I guess that answers that. Thanks. I had no idea.
Political correctness = terrorism.
Breitbart had an article about a whistleblower who claims he would have stopped the San Bernardino terrorism, but he was shut down before he could.
The article needs editing, but here is one part:
This Deobandi network had a branch in San Bernardino, which rang bells with Haney the moment he saw news reports about a terrorist attack there.
I found that individuals who were in the case, from three years ago, had come to that mosque. So, if I had still been active duty, working on the case, and everything had been going as it was, I would have linked that mosque to the initiative, simply because people that were already in the database were going there. Therefore, either Syed would have been put on the no-fly list, because of his close affiliation with it, or his pending fiancee would not have been given a visa, because she was affiliated with somebody who was tied to that mosque.
But he wasn’t on the case any more… because his initiative was deemed politically incorrect and shut down by the Department of Homeland Security’s Civil Rights and Civil Liberties division.
“They came into the National Targeting Center, either physically or through emails and correspondence, and said that we could not develop cases based on association with Tablighi Jamaat, and/or any Islamic group,” Haney revealed.
He charged this decision, which runs counter to the very purpose of the Department of Homeland Security and its charter to demolish the wall of separation between law enforcement agencies, was made because “this Administration is more concerned about the civil rights and civil liberties of foreign Islamic groups and foreign nationals than securing the freedom and security of the American public.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/11/dhs-whistleblower-philip-haney-p-c-killed-investigation-might-stopped-san-bernardino-attack/
I reread my previous comments.
Pro tip: If you want to revise a sentence, delete it and start anew. If you try to revise it piecemeal you’ll inevitably screw up your grammar and muddle your meaning.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/11/yale-investigation-finds-no-evidence-of-racism-at-frat-party-alleged-to-have-been-for-white-girls-only/
Replies: @TangoMan, @NJ Transit Commuter, @anon, @snorlax
It was kind of stupid to investigate anyway. I mean, what kind of proof could there have been even if it was true? Unless the bouncer or whoever admitted it, they’d never be able to prove it anyway.
Of course, the BLM types realize this. It’ll go down in their mythology and stay there forever. They’ll still claim it happened, but it just couldn’t be proven one way or the other.
I always wonder why people would make up stories so dumb. Could anyone at Yale really be so stupid as to ADMIT that they were not allowing black people in, in a day and age when everything you say could easily be recorded?
But that’s probably why. Because it doesn’t matter to the other activist types that it’s a stupid story. It’ll still serve its purpose for as long as they want it to.
I'll bet they said "hot chicks only". Sounds similar and could have a similar effect depending on the makeup of the crowd. I guarantee some ugly white girls didn't get in either. Anyone who has ever been to a nightclub with a velvet rope knows this score.
And the plain girls would be just as disgusted. Another example of Steve's argument on retconning.
印度的亚精英印度人会做一些令人讨厌的事情，比如在穆斯林社区横冲直撞。 随着他们在这里的孩子长大，预计会遇到更多麻烦。
回复：@Reg Cæsar、@anon、@Erik Sieven、@Cryptogenic
yes Hindu Indians have a little bit more resistance to dogmatic antiracism than Westerners
As I said before, in the long run ‘PC will eat itself’, just as ‘pop’ has ‘eaten itself’.
Basically all that PC amounts, when you strip out the bullshit, is for women, blacks, gays, lesbians, Pakistanis etc etc etc to gang up against heterosexual white men as a political bloc – the movement has always been the handmaiden, if you will, of modern leftism, in order to strip the said straight white men of any ‘wealth, power and influence’ they might have, and then to redistribute the said goodies amongst themselves.
In essence, it’s just a straight forward zero-sum game, command and conquest, and all that, the sort of thing that Genghis Khan, Flashman, the barnyard rooster or even George Orwell himself would have instantly and instinctively recognised.
– Animal pecking order behavior. No more, no less.
Anyhow, the grand scheme came unstuck in Rotherham, just like it will do, inevitabally, everywhere else dumb and pussy whipped enough – Sweden, I’m looking at you – to let the madness run riot.
Eventually the sacralized groups will fall out amongst themselves – and the white man Devil will be nowhere to be seen or blamed.
Consequently, the ‘more victim than thou’ mantra – the basis of all PC, will be invoked.
Alas, PC has no solution to ‘more victim than thou’, so fatal impasses – and the consequent tyranny – are a built in feature.
这是因为英国-巴基斯坦穆斯林在性方面更受挫。 未婚的巴基斯坦女孩被关在家里，大约一半的英国巴基斯坦人嫁给了她们的表妹。 不是性满足的男人的食谱。 想象一下，如果你在 20 多岁的时候嫁给了你的堂兄，你的性生活会是什么样子。 印度教徒和锡克教徒没有表亲婚姻，对婚前性活动的限制也没有那么严格。 所以我认为他们的性生活会更好。
另一个因素是印度教徒和锡克教徒属于中产阶级。 巴基斯坦人中有很大比例的低收入者居住在补贴的议会住宅区附近。 卖淫在这些地区很常见。 我的猜测是，很多巴基斯坦人出于机会主义的原因卷入了卖淫活动。 他们看到了机会（低收入女孩为了毒品/酒精/金钱而出卖自己）并加以利用。 最初，我打赌巴基斯坦人是白人皮条客和夫人的客户，但后来一些更狡猾的巴基斯坦人决定他们也可以成为皮条客。
当工党于 1997 年上台时，他们让英国穆斯林从国内引进新娘变得更加容易。 这可能会增加表亲婚姻和性挫败男性的流行率。
回复：@Anonym，@anon
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/uk-muslim-abducts-rapes-woman-you-white-women-are-good-at-it
This whole sexual frustration bit is overblown. According to Islam infidel women are fair game. It is not wrong in their religion, part of the spoils of Jihad. Seriously, why not just read the Koran? It is shorter than the New Testament.
有些罪行可以追溯到 1980 年代。
他们直接回到了第一批抵达英国的浓缩者。 他们可能在 1980 年代以工业规模开始，一旦富人意识到当局、女权主义者和儿童福利机构站在他们一边。
首先，没有太多证据表明罗瑟勒姆是不寻常的，除了它是英格兰第一个对几十年来整个英格兰发生的事情进行诚实调查的城市。
罗瑟勒姆不是一座城市，而是一座城镇。 在适当的城市，同样的事情发生在更大的范围内。 在坚定的以色列之友、罗瑟勒姆工党议员丹尼斯麦克沙恩因欺诈被判入狱后，他被一名妇女取代，她说：
以伯明翰为例：
远远超过 500 人。谢菲尔德、曼彻斯特和伦敦也是如此。 你猜怎么着？ 在那些因参与这些罪行而应该被起诉和绞死的人中，有一个说话快的苏格兰爱尔兰女人：
更多关于 Sue the Scotch-Irish：
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/11/yale-investigation-finds-no-evidence-of-racism-at-frat-party-alleged-to-have-been-for-white-girls-only/
Replies: @TangoMan, @NJ Transit Commuter, @anon, @snorlax
IIRC the frat brother at the door was black.
They can call him white in the newspapers but he doesn't look white enough for TV.
I guess they learned their lesson after assuming someone with a name like Zimmerman would be white.
good attempted deflection though - well not really - in either sense of the word
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Truth, @ben tillman
What “lesson” did the press learn with Zimmerman? I’m not following?
They forgot that the famous Zimmerman telegram was sent to Mexico. They remembered the German name only.
https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map/
nb the vast majority of these cases aren't reported nationally - only locally - so most people have no idea of the true scale.
nb obviously these are also only the cases that went to trial since 2012 when the story finally got into the media.
Replies: @Bill B., @berserker
Pakistani rape gangs are absolutely an example of predatory, exploit-any-softness, low-trust people living in high-trust societies that value individualism and the restrained self.
A toxic clan heritage, marinaded in an intolerant and spiteful religion, and combined with straight-forward racism, has been permitted to hunt freely at a moment when, for various reasons, the west has defended itself badly against those who do not play by the rules.
So: 1) where Pakistanis and their ilk can do it they will do it 2) there will eventually be a reaction.
（尽管它几乎肯定已经发生在像迪尔伯恩这样的百分比已经足够高的地方。）
回复：@JimboHarambe
迪尔伯恩 40% 是阿拉伯人，但其中大部分是来自黎巴嫩的基督徒。 我住在迪尔伯恩附近，实际上这是一个非常好的地方（比附近的底特律好得多）。
世界上几乎任何地方都比底特律好。 至少在世界上任何地方都没有底特律大多数人口的许多同族。
迪尔伯恩比底特律好，因为贝鲁特比底特律好。 但这真的一点也不多说。
https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map/
nb the vast majority of these cases aren't reported nationally - only locally - so most people have no idea of the true scale.
nb obviously these are also only the cases that went to trial since 2012 when the story finally got into the media.
Replies: @Bill B., @berserker
Thanks. Perhaps one should start mapping incidents in Germany. A dynamic map with time stamps would be informative with each incident linked to local reports. Information about migrant crime is being actively suppressed by the government, so any numbers would be underestimates.
葛鲍勃，很高兴见到你。
回复：@Steve Sailer
欢迎回来。
I take it you were addressing Kudzu Bob.
IIRC, he was busy on a project and said he'd be back when he had more time. I hope so.
回复：@Truth
我很想成为那里的兄弟会领袖并说服兄弟们采取这个立场：
回复：@JEGG、@AndrewR
我希望“只对某一种族的成员产生性兴趣是否属于种族主义”这一问题能够成为一个重要的时代头版问题。这可能是向广大公众传达种族主义一词的过度使用变得多么荒谬的唯一途径。如果你无法对某个特定种族做出性反应，那么再多的多样性训练也无法扭转这一局面。
回复：@SFG
They even got rid of the dinners!
Then again, the Republican party was formed to oppose slavery, so…
You could also do a whole routine on all the Unz writers and readers that didn't get a dinner.
Ron Unz, who bankrolled the whole deal, didn't get a dinner.
Steve Sailer, who persevered in obscurity for years in the face of great odds and Progressive invective, didn't get a dinner.
JayMan, who introduced so many to popular genetics, didn't get a dinner.
Derbyshire, Karlin, Khan, et al, who keep us amused and agitated at the same time, didn't get a dinner.
Syon, IJ, Priss, Reg, Truth, Whiskey and countless others of us, we get to wash the dishes.
回复：@ Tom-in-VA
— Polygamy, and Slavery."
That's right out of the 1856 platform:
www.ushistory.org/gop/convention_1856republicanplatform.htm
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
我可以给你两个 HDB 理由：
1. 穆斯林比锡克教徒和印度教徒更能接受近亲繁殖。 当然，近亲繁殖是基因缺陷的。
2. 当伊斯兰教第一次传播到印度时，大量的皈依者来自不可接触的种姓，由于几个世纪以来在其种姓内的选择性交配，他们已经出现了基因缺陷。
BJP type hindus in USA are extremely anti-muslim and have allied with jewish Kahanist organisations in an anti-muslim front
Many BJP Hindus are active supporters of Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer
Many of my UK Hindu friends donated to BNP - Nick Griffin
Leftist Hindus are pro-muslim
回复：@SFG，@epebble
I had…never heard this. Once they’re here they seem to melt into an undifferentiated ‘brown’ mass, largely because Americans can’t tell the difference (and ran around attacking Sikh and Hindu temples as a result, which I think is awful).
It is true Israel and India are friends for the obvious reason (common enemy), and Hindu Americans seem to hold Jews in high regard (basically using them as a template for their own community’s road to success, largely successfully from what I’ve seen), but I’ve never heard of a united front. Is this a British thing?
One of the closest associates of Pam Gellar and Robert Spencer was the late Narain Kataria, a senior leader of Overseas Friends of BJP - Narain got driven out of Pakistan in 1948 and knows muslim tendencies
Narain, obituary was put up on the website of both Pam Gellar and Jihadwatch
The VHP ( religious wing of BJP ) has a strong overseas branch in many countries from Myanmar to UK to Canada to USA ( VHP-America )
So Hindu kids go to weekend sunday school, summer camps and hopefully get the facts of life regarding muslims explained to them
Most congress type hindus are leftist and pro-Muslim
In UK, a Sikh joined the BNP to prove it wasnt a racist party
In UK, and India, there is a lot of sexual predation by muslims on Hindu and Sikh and Christian girls, called
Love Jihad ( grooming ) - and wherever BJP is strong, there are reprisals - Some BJP activists in India, when they catch these Love Jihadi have made them actually eat sh*t
In parts of South India, the Christians have aligned with BJP to stop love jihad
Very few Hindus or Sikhs socialise with muslims anywhere in the world
Most Hindus , Sikhs, Jains, Christians, wont even rent to a muslim all over India
罗瑟勒姆的名字对于每个英国人来说都是众所周知的，因为自 1925 年以来，每周的足球赛果中都会读出罗瑟勒姆联足球队的名字。
罗瑟勒姆实际上是谢菲尔德的郊区，因此位于现已不复存在的英国钢铁工业的中心，因此该地区现在陷入了困难时期。
基本上，整个恶作剧都涉及违法的少女，她们名义上受到地方当局的照顾，但实际上却在肆意妄为，并且可能依靠当地移民出租车司机来运送她们，以换取她们拥有的任何交换手段。
情况似乎变得更糟，因为当地社会工作者基本上对这些可疑的理由视而不见，即假设这些女孩已经做出了成为妓女的职业选择，她们的选择应该得到支持，因为这被认为是政治上的正确的。想必他们会被告知如何避孕。
Whether the numbers have been exaggerated, I do not know, (I kind of suspect it), but it seems probable that this pattern of behavior has been widespread across the country, especially in socially deprived areas with a lot of unemployment. However I can remember encountering similar setups in England as long ago as the 1960’s involving runaway teenage girls, train drivers, and so on.
乔纳森，你让我毛骨悚然。也许你应该再读一遍这份报告。
One thing you notice about a lot of the Paki groomers is that they don’t look particularly handsome,
tough, or stylish. Lots of them look like older men with limited fashion sense, even more limited looks, and pudgy bodies. Not stereotypical pimps.
Compare them to American pimps.
转到 8:20。
Perhaps what needs to be investigated more is not so much the ethnicity of pimps, but the connection between cab drivers and private hire companies and prostitutes, not just in Rotherham, but worldwide. For example in many tourist destinations, strip clubs and brothels will offer commissions to taxi drivers who bring in customers. Call girls usually rely on trusted drivers to transport them to appointments and look out for their security.
The link here is to a story about reforms regarding the licensing of taxi drivers in Rotherham.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-29729574
His dad is white and his mom is apparently Japanese.
http://www.whio.com/ap/ap/oklahoma/oklahoma-ex-cop-guilty-of-18-counts-in-sex-assault/pCtrCb/
回复：@anon，@Anonymous
Wow, is that his mother?? She looks young! Holtzclaw played linebacker at Eastern Michigan from 2005-2008 and was the second leading tackler in team history.
It must have been in his football days that he got hooked on black women.
I am not surprised you hadn’t heard of Rotherham. I lived there for several years. It is unremarkable in lots of ways in being a mid-size northern England town whose former heavy industry — mining and steel — had long since disappeared. Today the population, which is mostly unemployed (and some definitely unemployable) whites, has large groups of muslims who in the tradition of their kind devote their time to not integrating and running their own businesses to provide for their own kind. I have seen dirty vans going round selling meat and vegetables from the back, and only calling at muslim houses.
The white locals do not think much of the muslims (I have been spat at on the street by one for not reason other than he could) and the Pakistani-origin males employ themselves driving taxis or running, as mentioned, muslim-preferred businesses. White young women, for some reason no one of my age can understand, seem to be attracted to the relatively uncultured muslim males and seem to think they make good sexual partners or even husbands, whereupon they must obey the rules by covering their hair and legs and following the man around a couple of paces behind.
I know of a girl who was murdered for wanting to tell her Pakistani-origin boyfriend’s family that she was pregnant (family honour must be preserved, even if life isn’t) while I also know of at least one case where the Rotherham social services thought a child fostered by a (white) couple should have the child removed from their care because these parents ‘went to church’ and that was judged by these (white, dhimmi-loving officials) as a toxic environment. This is the same social services set-up that somehow failed to notice the ongoing open and widespread abuse of young females in their care (and equally had the ability to ignore complaints by worried people) by mostly muslim men, for well over ten years.
It is also place where the police were quick to arrest a white girl who recognised one of her abusers on the street and shouted at him, charging her with ‘disturbing the peace’ while the abuser walked away untroubled. But then, he was a muslim and the whole thrust of the town’s socialist, Labour-controlled council is to praise muslims no matter what they do and turn their gaze away from any anti-social behaviour by Pakistani-origin men.
I was also told of a case where a normal, healthy young muslim female was sent to Pakistan by her ‘caring’ family to marry a retarded male and have him brought back to the UK where he can live on benefits. One can imagine that her life now is less than ideal, but as it was agreed between families what did it matter what she wanted?
Rotherham is just one of many northern English (and therefore largely impoverished) places who has to put up with this sort of thing. All over the north former industrial and mining towns now have large populations of muslims, the men of which are denied contact with their own women so they turn to the available option of teen girls in social care with no one seemingly bothered about protecting the white females.
As you said, Rotherham was a town built on mining and steel.
During the boom years of the 1960s, presumably, the mining and steel industries were short of labor.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty damned certain that *not one single first generation immigrant Pakistani man to Rotherham, or any other Pakistani, for that matter, ever worked down a coal pit in Rotherham, or indeed anywhere else in England, Wales or Scotland*.
Perhaps some might have worked in the steel mills.
Now, if Pakistanis were NOT imported into Rotherham to 'fill desperately needed labor industrial jobs back in the day', what the Hell were they imported for?
Was there really a national shortage of taxi-drivers and kebab shop owners back in the Wilson years that held back the British 'battle for exports'?
Please reply. I'm deeply curious.
回复：@anon
真的吗？我认为英国白人女性讨厌南亚和穆斯林男性。据我所知，如果他们跨种族混合，他们大多喜欢非裔加勒比人。
所有性诱骗团伙之所以存在，是因为男人无法通过常规手段上床。
回复：@Expletive 已删除、@Broken Britain、@anon、@Anonymous
“hbd 人的问题是，为什么锡克教徒和印度教徒等其他南亚人不会以同样的速度犯下这些罪行。”
为什么这是一个问题？ 现在的德国人比纳粹德国人好。 现在的南方人比战前、持有奴隶的南方人要好。 这里有没有人否认意识形态可以使人变得讨厌和卑鄙而独立于遗传？ 我不这么认为。
在某种程度上，伊斯兰狂热似乎确实存在遗传性、HBD 因素：阿拉伯和非洲穆斯林似乎远比欧洲和东南亚穆斯林差。
南亚穆斯林表现出的一些特征在非穆斯林的南亚人身上也很明显：例如，狂热的民族中心主义。 在印度，穆斯林和印度教徒可能互相咬牙切齿，但在美国，他们似乎常常为共同的事业而努力。
回复：@rec1man，@Cryptogenic
“Present-day Southerners are better than antebellum, slave-holding Southerners.”
Speak for yourself. Cf. Mencken’s “The Sahara of the Bozart.”
印度的亚精英印度人会做一些令人讨厌的事情，比如在穆斯林社区横冲直撞。 随着他们在这里的孩子长大，预计会遇到更多麻烦。
回复：@Reg Cæsar、@anon、@Erik Sieven、@Cryptogenic
“The Indian Genius” is one of the most pernicious modern myths. There are over a billion Indians on the subcontinent, the overwhelming majority of them distinctly not brilliant. Oftentimes just acknowledging matters of scale and over/under-representation is enough to prove a “controversial” HBD point.
Yes, my otherwise intelligent father for the longest time thought India must be a land of geniuses because every Indian grad student he met in the physics department at Berkeley was indeed brilliant. He was totally ignorant of the concept of "selection bias".
回复：@Desiderius
我很想成为那里的兄弟会领袖并说服兄弟们采取这个立场：
回复：@JEGG、@AndrewR
Seriously though, although American blacks do not rank even in my list of Top 100 Favorite Ethnic Groups, I would question the heterosexuality of anyone who categorically rejected the idea that any black girls could be hot.
However, the hottest tend to have a large amount of white admixture.
At the very least it sheds some light on why you guys have such a low birthrate.
回复：@anon，@Bill B。
What "lesson" did the press learn with Zimmerman? I'm not following?
回复：@CK
They forgot that the famous Zimmerman telegram was sent to Mexico. They remembered the German name only.
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
如前所述，不仅没有认真的 HBD 思想家甚至暗示环境因素在文化中没有作用，而且这些穆斯林可能比他们的印度教信仰的远亲近亲更近亲。 所以不，这里没有问题。
Wasn’t the American Mann Act an early anti-human trafficking law? In current PC renditions of history it was just something with which to persecute the noble black heavyweight boxer Jack Johnson.
回复：@AndrewR、@Jonathan Mason
What? Not all gays are pedophiles. Not all gay priests are pedophiles. The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality.
回复：@RegCæsar
Except that none of these priests actually was a "pedophile" as the term usually means. Their victims were almost entirely teenage boys, not boys who hadn't hit puberty.
I haven't seen the movie Steve's talking about, but I do remember the media talking about them as being pedophiles, while not mentioning the fact that they were gay men. If you don't know much about the Catholic Church (and lots of Americans don't), then you probably don't know that Catholic priests are largely gay today. Back in the seveties, seminaries starting accepting large numbers of gay men who, from what I've heard, started creating a very gay culture there.
But people didn't want to admit that, so they kept asking what was wrong with the Catholic church, and how could this be stopped, when the real, obvious answer was that you were encouraging a lot of gay men to take a job where they would be around lots of adolescent males. What did they think was going to happen?
回复：@RegCæsar
"Not all gays are pedophiles."
No, not all. However, gays have a much greater orientation towards youth than do normal men. Not all blacks are stupid.
"The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. "
No, they are pretty much standard issue faggots. They act the way faggots act. Those stereotypes about chicken hawks and recruitment? Like most stereotypes, they are true.
"Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality."
Of course not. It's a well known principle of psychiatry that having one mental illness in no way makes it more likely that you have other mental illnesses. Also, high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease have nothing to do with one another.
回复：@AndrewR
Dearborn is 40% Arab but most of them are Christians from Lebanon. I live near Dearborn and actually it's a pretty nice place (lot nicer than nearby Detroit).
回复：@AndrewR
世界上几乎任何地方都比底特律好。 至少在世界上任何地方都没有底特律大多数人口的许多同族。
迪尔伯恩比底特律好，因为贝鲁特比底特律好。 但这真的一点也不多说。
I’m not buying your week excuses guys. For years you have told me that the press was FALLING ALL OVER ITSELF to VILLIFY any white man who gave a black man a cross look. You always talk about NAMS meaning NON-ASIAN minorities (meaning that Asians are pretty much whites).
YOU LIED TO ME!!!!
For years you have told me that the press was FALLING ALL OVER ITSELF to VILLIFY any white man who gave a black man a cross look. You always talk about NAMS meaning NON-ASIAN minorities (meaning that Asians are pretty much whites).
It doesn't matter how we talk about them, because we're not the ones running CNN and the New York Times. The Democratic party is the party of the fringes, and despite their high IQs, low crime rate, and general quality of life, Asians are still part of the "fringe", meaning that the Democratic media isn't falling all over themselves to cover their misdeeds.
BJP type hindus in USA are extremely anti-muslim and have allied with jewish Kahanist organisations in an anti-muslim front
Many BJP Hindus are active supporters of Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer
Many of my UK Hindu friends donated to BNP - Nick Griffin
Leftist Hindus are pro-muslim
回复：@SFG，@epebble
so BJP ~ ‘Republican’/’Trump’ and Leftist Hindu ~ ‘Democrat’/Clintonista ?
BJP = Hindu Nationalist, free market
Congress = pro-Muslim, socialist
这是因为英国-巴基斯坦穆斯林在性方面更受挫。 未婚的巴基斯坦女孩被关在家里，大约一半的英国巴基斯坦人嫁给了她们的表妹。 不是性满足的男人的食谱。 想象一下，如果你在 20 多岁的时候嫁给了你的堂兄，你的性生活会是什么样子。 印度教徒和锡克教徒没有表亲婚姻，对婚前性活动的限制也没有那么严格。 所以我认为他们的性生活会更好。
另一个因素是印度教徒和锡克教徒属于中产阶级。 巴基斯坦人中有很大比例的低收入者居住在补贴的议会住宅区附近。 卖淫在这些地区很常见。 我的猜测是，很多巴基斯坦人出于机会主义的原因卷入了卖淫活动。 他们看到了机会（低收入女孩为了毒品/酒精/金钱而出卖自己）并加以利用。 最初，我打赌巴基斯坦人是白人皮条客和夫人的客户，但后来一些更狡猾的巴基斯坦人决定他们也可以成为皮条客。
当工党于 1997 年上台时，他们让英国穆斯林从国内引进新娘变得更加容易。 这可能会增加表亲婚姻和性挫败男性的流行率。
回复：@Anonym，@anon
Cousin marriage has two effects on this imo.
1) It seems to make people tighter with their in-group but more hostile to out-groups. This is the hbd part.
2) Enforcing very strict cousin marriage requires a lot of cultural control on the women. So all these cultural behaviors: FGM, honor killing etc are a part of that cultural control. Another aspect of that control mechanism is it’s considered okay to rape a woman who isn’t covered up adequately or a woman who is outside on her own without a male relative.
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3) I don’t think it technically applies outside of open war situations like Isis but the Koran says it’s okay to rape non-muslim women as part of jihad. However this may be more of an excuse than a reason imo.
What? Not all gays are pedophiles. Not all gay priests are pedophiles. The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality.
Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon, @Percy Gryce, @Bill
Good one! Just purely coincidental that they entered a profession that forbids marriage to women. What is the age cut off for victims between pedophilia and gayness. If a priest gets a blowjob from a choirboy who is fifteen years of age, is he gay or pedophile? What about fourteen? Thirteen?
回复：@Jonathan Mason
回复：@AndrewR、@Jonathan Mason
I think you are right. Media reports are airily vague in nature about “children being abused by Catholic priests” without making it clear whether these are mostly infants, small children, or adolescents and what proportion are boys and girls. The impression one gets from literature and memoirs from James Joyce to Paul Theroux is that it is mostly male priests and altar boys, not nuns and novices.
我想自从维斯塔贞女崇拜衰落并被基督教取代以来，这一直是这份工作的福利之一。
Your theory doesn't work because the Eastern Orthodox Church has always permitted parish priests to marry, and early (pre-Schism) Christian clergymen were largely married. That said, you could probably find sexual abuse in any rigidly hierarchical institution, but all the more in an environment of enforced celibacy. Both monks and nuns have been haunted by accusations of sexual abuse of boys and girls, respectively, and I assume it's less because of a proclivity to homosexuality or certain ages than, to put it rawly, what beings are available, powerless, and easily silenced.
回复：@Percy Gryce
与印度教徒或锡克教徒相比，南亚穆斯林之间的近亲近亲繁殖（即表亲婚姻）要密切得多。 见表 此处 关于印度的婚姻，并注意按宗教划分的表亲结婚率（穆斯林为 21.4%，印度教徒为 8.5%，锡克教徒为 1.2%——那是在 90 年代）。 并且知道巴基斯坦的表亲结婚率是 大约 50%.
回复：@LondonBob
Islam offered a way out for lower caste Hindus. Lower quality source material. Hindus still don’t match up to Parsis either.
The white locals do not think much of the muslims (I have been spat at on the street by one for not reason other than he could) and the Pakistani-origin males employ themselves driving taxis or running, as mentioned, muslim-preferred businesses. White young women, for some reason no one of my age can understand, seem to be attracted to the relatively uncultured muslim males and seem to think they make good sexual partners or even husbands, whereupon they must obey the rules by covering their hair and legs and following the man around a couple of paces behind.
I know of a girl who was murdered for wanting to tell her Pakistani-origin boyfriend's family that she was pregnant (family honour must be preserved, even if life isn't) while I also know of at least one case where the Rotherham social services thought a child fostered by a (white) couple should have the child removed from their care because these parents 'went to church' and that was judged by these (white, dhimmi-loving officials) as a toxic environment. This is the same social services set-up that somehow failed to notice the ongoing open and widespread abuse of young females in their care (and equally had the ability to ignore complaints by worried people) by mostly muslim men, for well over ten years.
It is also place where the police were quick to arrest a white girl who recognised one of her abusers on the street and shouted at him, charging her with 'disturbing the peace' while the abuser walked away untroubled. But then, he was a muslim and the whole thrust of the town's socialist, Labour-controlled council is to praise muslims no matter what they do and turn their gaze away from any anti-social behaviour by Pakistani-origin men.
I was also told of a case where a normal, healthy young muslim female was sent to Pakistan by her 'caring' family to marry a retarded male and have him brought back to the UK where he can live on benefits. One can imagine that her life now is less than ideal, but as it was agreed between families what did it matter what she wanted?
Rotherham is just one of many northern English (and therefore largely impoverished) places who has to put up with this sort of thing. All over the north former industrial and mining towns now have large populations of muslims, the men of which are denied contact with their own women so they turn to the available option of teen girls in social care with no one seemingly bothered about protecting the white females.
回复：@ Anonymous，@ JohnnyWalker123
As you said, Rotherham was a town built on mining and steel.
During the boom years of the 1960s, presumably, the mining and steel industries were short of labor.
Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty damned certain that *not one single first generation immigrant Pakistani man to Rotherham, or any other Pakistani, for that matter, ever worked down a coal pit in Rotherham, or indeed anywhere else in England, Wales or Scotland*.
Perhaps some might have worked in the steel mills.
Now, if Pakistanis were NOT imported into Rotherham to ‘fill desperately needed labor industrial jobs back in the day’, what the Hell were they imported for?
Was there really a national shortage of taxi-drivers and kebab shop owners back in the Wilson years that held back the British ‘battle for exports’?
Please reply. I’m deeply curious.
They even got rid of the dinners!
Then again, the Republican party was formed to oppose slavery, so...
回复：@ Ivy，@ RegCæsar
You could also do a whole routine on all the Unz writers and readers that didn’t get a dinner.
Ron Unz, who bankrolled the whole deal, didn’t get a dinner.
Steve Sailer, who persevered in obscurity for years in the face of great odds and Progressive invective, didn’t get a dinner.
JayMan, who introduced so many to popular genetics, didn’t get a dinner.
Derbyshire, Karlin, Khan, et al, who keep us amused and agitated at the same time, didn’t get a dinner.
Syon, IJ, Priss, Reg, Truth, Whiskey and countless others of us, we get to wash the dishes.
Thank you, Red Buttons.
The white locals do not think much of the muslims (I have been spat at on the street by one for not reason other than he could) and the Pakistani-origin males employ themselves driving taxis or running, as mentioned, muslim-preferred businesses. White young women, for some reason no one of my age can understand, seem to be attracted to the relatively uncultured muslim males and seem to think they make good sexual partners or even husbands, whereupon they must obey the rules by covering their hair and legs and following the man around a couple of paces behind.
I know of a girl who was murdered for wanting to tell her Pakistani-origin boyfriend's family that she was pregnant (family honour must be preserved, even if life isn't) while I also know of at least one case where the Rotherham social services thought a child fostered by a (white) couple should have the child removed from their care because these parents 'went to church' and that was judged by these (white, dhimmi-loving officials) as a toxic environment. This is the same social services set-up that somehow failed to notice the ongoing open and widespread abuse of young females in their care (and equally had the ability to ignore complaints by worried people) by mostly muslim men, for well over ten years.
It is also place where the police were quick to arrest a white girl who recognised one of her abusers on the street and shouted at him, charging her with 'disturbing the peace' while the abuser walked away untroubled. But then, he was a muslim and the whole thrust of the town's socialist, Labour-controlled council is to praise muslims no matter what they do and turn their gaze away from any anti-social behaviour by Pakistani-origin men.
I was also told of a case where a normal, healthy young muslim female was sent to Pakistan by her 'caring' family to marry a retarded male and have him brought back to the UK where he can live on benefits. One can imagine that her life now is less than ideal, but as it was agreed between families what did it matter what she wanted?
Rotherham is just one of many northern English (and therefore largely impoverished) places who has to put up with this sort of thing. All over the north former industrial and mining towns now have large populations of muslims, the men of which are denied contact with their own women so they turn to the available option of teen girls in social care with no one seemingly bothered about protecting the white females.
回复：@ Anonymous，@ JohnnyWalker123
Really? I thought White British women hated South Asian and Muslim men. From what I’ve heard, if they interracially mix, they’re mostly into Afro-Carribean guys.
The reason for all the sex grooming gangs is because the men can’t get laid through regular means.
He's discussing the infamous brit "underclass".
".. obey the rules by covering their hair and legs".
Which in this case will be the same thing.
I say I say I say, why do sumo wrestlers shave their legs?
So they don't get mistaken for Yorkshirewomen.
I don't live in Rotherham but I have lived in a similar northern English town. The post above is correct. Young Pakistan men are seen as a catch by some white women. As far as I can work out it boils down to money and looks.
大多数巴基斯坦男人都在操纵这个系统，他们的口袋里有钱。如果他们担任出租车司机，那么他们将声称自己是兼职工作，因此他们将有资格领取社会保障金，但他们将是全职工作，并且不会为其收入纳税。无论他们购买什么，都将通过内部穆斯林联系购买，并且会比通常的市场价格便宜。
年长的巴基斯坦人通常具有与近亲繁殖相关的更强烈、更夸张的面部特征。随着年龄的增长，他们看起来越来越像农民。但在此之前，年轻男性会经历一个阶段，他们可能会被误认为是西班牙人或希腊人，有着坚强的面孔，一些女性认为这很有吸引力。
你还应该意识到，在英国，我们有大量愚蠢的年轻人，他们被我们的精英刻意地剥夺了教育。他们会相信我们奸诈的政客告诉他们的任何事情。
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123
The grooming gangs particularly target 12-13 year old girls from children's homes.
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"Dearborn"
Anywhere there's an enclave it will be happening because it's effectively a side effect of the culture.
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Anyway the main point is there's a whole other layer below terrorism which the US has a chance of avoiding.
https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map/
As you must know, judicious bribes of cash - and in the case of Rotherham, hard liquor, cigarettes, illicit drugs of all sorts - including cocaine and heroin -, and not to mention 'free' doner kebabs with chips, and yes probably 'chili sauce' , do wonders everywhere to breakdown 'natural female modesty and apprehension of men'.
Even if the men are popularly characterized as 'alien, smelly, dirty, primitive, foreign, strange, nerdy etc'.
'This the story of the human condition, as viewed through male eyes.
回复：@RegCæsar
Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Truth, @Anonymous
Well, they could be hot in the abstract.
However, the hottest tend to have a large amount of white admixture.
Wilkey–“There does seem to be a genetic, HBD element to Islamic fanaticism, to some degree: Arabian and African Muslims seem to be far worse than European and Southeast Asian Muslims.”
Seems to be, huh. Do you have any source material to substantiate your claim?
International Jew–“Sub-elite Indians in India do nasty things like rampage through Muslim neighborhoods.”
Actually, Muslims there rampage against Christians, who rampage against Hindus, who rampage against Muslims, etc.
Johnny Walker123–“It’s because British-Pakistani Muslims are more sexually frustrated…The Hindus and Sikhs have no cousin marriage and less strict constraints on premarital sexual activity. So I’d assume their sex lives are better.”
Do you have any links that lend credibility to your hypothesis?
India does not have the same level of sex segregation and female cloistering as Pakistan (though more than USA). Relatively easy to have sex outside of marriage with people you are not related to. Though there is a strong social stigma against it.
真的吗？我认为英国白人女性讨厌南亚和穆斯林男性。据我所知，如果他们跨种族混合，他们大多喜欢非裔加勒比人。
所有性诱骗团伙之所以存在，是因为男人无法通过常规手段上床。
回复：@Expletive 已删除、@Broken Britain、@anon、@Anonymous
He’s discussing the infamous brit “underclass”.
“.. obey the rules by covering their hair and legs”.
Which in this case will be the same thing.
I say I say I say, why do sumo wrestlers shave their legs?
So they don’t get mistaken for Yorkshirewomen.
What? Not all gays are pedophiles. Not all gay priests are pedophiles. The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality.
Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon, @Percy Gryce, @Bill
Except that none of these priests actually was a “pedophile” as the term usually means. Their victims were almost entirely teenage boys, not boys who hadn’t hit puberty.
I haven’t seen the movie Steve’s talking about, but I do remember the media talking about them as being pedophiles, while not mentioning the fact that they were gay men. If you don’t know much about the Catholic Church (and lots of Americans don’t), then you probably don’t know that Catholic priests are largely gay today. Back in the seveties, seminaries starting accepting large numbers of gay men who, from what I’ve heard, started creating a very gay culture there.
But people didn’t want to admit that, so they kept asking what was wrong with the Catholic church, and how could this be stopped, when the real, obvious answer was that you were encouraging a lot of gay men to take a job where they would be around lots of adolescent males. What did they think was going to happen?
I just answered an appeal from a very conservative nunnery facing a "vocations crisis"-- they ran out of room to house all their young postulants. Seminaries are in the same position. The serious ones are not in trouble, and have little tolerance for the gay life.
The future of the Church is not pink.
回复：@anon
You could also do a whole routine on all the Unz writers and readers that didn't get a dinner.
Ron Unz, who bankrolled the whole deal, didn't get a dinner.
Steve Sailer, who persevered in obscurity for years in the face of great odds and Progressive invective, didn't get a dinner.
JayMan, who introduced so many to popular genetics, didn't get a dinner.
Derbyshire, Karlin, Khan, et al, who keep us amused and agitated at the same time, didn't get a dinner.
Syon, IJ, Priss, Reg, Truth, Whiskey and countless others of us, we get to wash the dishes.
回复：@ Tom-in-VA
Thank you, Red Buttons.
I had...never heard this. Once they're here they seem to melt into an undifferentiated 'brown' mass, largely because Americans can't tell the difference (and ran around attacking Sikh and Hindu temples as a result, which I think is awful).
It is true Israel and India are friends for the obvious reason (common enemy), and Hindu Americans seem to hold Jews in high regard (basically using them as a template for their own community's road to success, largely successfully from what I've seen), but I've never heard of a united front. Is this a British thing?
回复：@ rec1man
One of the closest associates of Pam Gellar and Robert Spencer was the late Narain Kataria, a senior leader of Overseas Friends of BJP – Narain got driven out of Pakistan in 1948 and knows muslim tendencies
Narain, obituary was put up on the website of both Pam Gellar and Jihadwatch
The VHP ( religious wing of BJP ) has a strong overseas branch in many countries from Myanmar to UK to Canada to USA ( VHP-America )
So Hindu kids go to weekend sunday school, summer camps and hopefully get the facts of life regarding muslims explained to them
Most congress type hindus are leftist and pro-Muslim
In UK, a Sikh joined the BNP to prove it wasnt a racist party
In UK, and India, there is a lot of sexual predation by muslims on Hindu and Sikh and Christian girls, called
Love Jihad ( grooming ) – and wherever BJP is strong, there are reprisals – Some BJP activists in India, when they catch these Love Jihadi have made them actually eat sh*t
In parts of South India, the Christians have aligned with BJP to stop love jihad
Very few Hindus or Sikhs socialise with muslims anywhere in the world
Most Hindus , Sikhs, Jains, Christians, wont even rent to a muslim all over India
so BJP ~ 'Republican'/'Trump' and Leftist Hindu ~ 'Democrat'/Clintonista ?
回复：@ rec1man
BJP = Hindu Nationalist, free market
Congress = pro-Muslim, socialist
真的吗？我认为英国白人女性讨厌南亚和穆斯林男性。据我所知，如果他们跨种族混合，他们大多喜欢非裔加勒比人。
所有性诱骗团伙之所以存在，是因为男人无法通过常规手段上床。
回复：@Expletive 已删除、@Broken Britain、@anon、@Anonymous
我不住在罗瑟勒姆，但我住在英国北部一个类似的小镇。上面的帖子是正确的。巴基斯坦的年轻男性被一些白人女性视为猎物。据我所知，这归结为金钱和外表。
大多数巴基斯坦男人都在操纵这个系统，他们的口袋里有钱。如果他们担任出租车司机，那么他们将声称自己是兼职工作，因此他们将有资格领取社会保障金，但他们将是全职工作，并且不会为其收入纳税。无论他们购买什么，都将通过内部穆斯林联系购买，并且会比通常的市场价格便宜。
年长的巴基斯坦人通常具有与近亲繁殖相关的更强烈、更夸张的面部特征。随着年龄的增长，他们看起来越来越像农民。但在此之前，年轻男性会经历一个阶段，他们可能会被误认为是西班牙人或希腊人，有着坚强的面孔，一些女性认为这很有吸引力。
你还应该意识到，在英国，我们有大量愚蠢的年轻人，他们被我们的精英刻意地剥夺了教育。他们会相信我们奸诈的政客告诉他们的任何事情。
你确定？
这是英国巴基斯坦婚礼的视频。对我来说，他们并不是特别喜欢希腊语或意大利语。他们看起来像印第安人，但肤色稍浅。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJL_xXcqG60
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
去过这些国家的有头脑的人都不可能将希腊人或西班牙人误认为巴基斯坦人。
一般来说，巴基斯坦人是坚果棕色的。
回复：@破碎的英国
安·库尔特转发了罗瑟勒姆丑闻。
https://twitter.com/djtechchicago/status/675835620904669184
在你看来，这些人中有人看起来像希腊人/西班牙人吗？
What? Not all gays are pedophiles. Not all gay priests are pedophiles. The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality.
Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon, @Percy Gryce, @Bill
You’re missing the point. The vast majority of the cases of Catholic clerical “abuse” (a term which encompasses a huge variety of activities, including sex talk and a pat on the bottom) were not instances of pedophilia, which generally means sexual activity with children aged 11 or younger. According to the John Jay report, almost 68% of the cases involved minors aged 12-17, the great majority of them young males. A man who sexually pursues male youths is not a pedophile but rather a homosexual. The media’s obfuscation on this point was critical to their dual goals of demonizing the Catholic Church and promoting the homosexual agenda.
真的吗？我认为英国白人女性讨厌南亚和穆斯林男性。据我所知，如果他们跨种族混合，他们大多喜欢非裔加勒比人。
所有性诱骗团伙之所以存在，是因为男人无法通过常规手段上床。
回复：@Expletive 已删除、@Broken Britain、@anon、@Anonymous
The grooming gangs particularly target 12-13 year old girls from children’s homes.
.
“Dearborn”
Anywhere there’s an enclave it will be happening because it’s effectively a side effect of the culture.
.
Anyway the main point is there’s a whole other layer below terrorism which the US has a chance of avoiding.
https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map/
In India “pimping” is considered to be a Muslim business. The silver-tongue Muslim pimp, seducing vulnerable girls is an archetype and a Bollywood stock figure:
"The Indian Genius" is one of the most pernicious modern myths. There are over a billion Indians on the subcontinent, the overwhelming majority of them distinctly not brilliant. Oftentimes just acknowledging matters of scale and over/under-representation is enough to prove a "controversial" HBD point.
回复：@Francis G.
Yes, my otherwise intelligent father for the longest time thought India must be a land of geniuses because every Indian grad student he met in the physics department at Berkeley was indeed brilliant. He was totally ignorant of the concept of “selection bias”.
Well, you take a billion people of roughly Indo-European stock the tail will be relatively fat, even out to the genius range.
My favorite is this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan
罗瑟勒姆实际上是谢菲尔德的郊区，因此位于现已不复存在的英国钢铁工业的中心，因此该地区现在陷入了困难时期。
基本上，整个恶作剧都涉及违法的少女，她们名义上受到地方当局的照顾，但实际上却在肆意妄为，并且可能依靠当地移民出租车司机来运送她们，以换取她们拥有的任何交换手段。
情况似乎变得更糟，因为当地社会工作者基本上对这些可疑的理由视而不见，即假设这些女孩已经做出了成为妓女的职业选择，她们的选择应该得到支持，因为这被认为是政治上的正确的。想必他们会被告知如何避孕。
我不知道这些数字是否被夸大了（我有点怀疑），但这种行为模式很可能在全国范围内普遍存在，特别是在失业大量的社会贫困地区。然而，我记得早在 1960 年代就在英国遇到过类似的场景，涉及离家出走的少女、火车司机等等。
回复：@Pericles
乔纳森，你让我毛骨悚然。也许你应该再读一遍这份报告。
Yes, my otherwise intelligent father for the longest time thought India must be a land of geniuses because every Indian grad student he met in the physics department at Berkeley was indeed brilliant. He was totally ignorant of the concept of "selection bias".
回复：@Desiderius
Well, you take a billion people of roughly Indo-European stock the tail will be relatively fat, even out to the genius range.
My favorite is this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan
So I don’t understand something. An invader tribe brutally raped thousands of young teenage British girls. Why haven’t there been thousands of severe, torturous beatings by lower-middle class British young men against these smelly invaders? Sure, for retribution, but also because it would be a lot of fun.
Yeah, they’d get arrested. So what? Sometimes you need to be a man.
There used to be. One of the most famous pastimes of the old skinheads was "Paki-bashing".
Supposedly, this was due to racism, pure and simple. But given the fact that I only know about it from the media, how would I really know if it WAS done as a form of retaliation?
If you believe what the modern media tells you, you'd think that lynching had nothing to do with crimes committed by blacks, and was just a bunch of stupid white guys killing blacks for no reason.
Mainly because the entire government, police/state apparatus of Britain - up to and including the full military firepower of the army, not to mention the entirety of the press, BBC, ITV, Sky News, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Cardinal of Westminster, the heads of the Methodist and Baptist churches, the House of Lords, the House of Commons, and outside Britain the UN, the EU, the European Court, NATO, and the biggie the President and Congress of the USA and thus the might of the Pentagon and the CIA, and lastly and lastly the shrill buttholes of the NYT, the WSJ, Time and the arch-wankers at The Economist, will be utterly UNANIMOUS in their expressed desire to *destroy* those whites with 'extreme prejudice'.
- and I'm not joking or exaggerating.
Seems to be, huh. Do you have any source material to substantiate your claim?
International Jew--"Sub-elite Indians in India do nasty things like rampage through Muslim neighborhoods."
Actually, Muslims there rampage against Christians, who rampage against Hindus, who rampage against Muslims, etc.
Johnny Walker123--"It’s because British-Pakistani Muslims are more sexually frustrated...The Hindus and Sikhs have no cousin marriage and less strict constraints on premarital sexual activity. So I’d assume their sex lives are better."
Do you have any links that lend credibility to your hypothesis?
回复：@Jimi
India does not have the same level of sex segregation and female cloistering as Pakistan (though more than USA). Relatively easy to have sex outside of marriage with people you are not related to. Though there is a strong social stigma against it.
欢迎回来。
回复：@Kylie
I take it you were addressing Kudzu Bob.
IIRC, he was busy on a project and said he’d be back when he had more time. I hope so.
I don't live in Rotherham but I have lived in a similar northern English town. The post above is correct. Young Pakistan men are seen as a catch by some white women. As far as I can work out it boils down to money and looks.
大多数巴基斯坦男人都在操纵这个系统，他们的口袋里有钱。如果他们担任出租车司机，那么他们将声称自己是兼职工作，因此他们将有资格领取社会保障金，但他们将是全职工作，并且不会为其收入纳税。无论他们购买什么，都将通过内部穆斯林联系购买，并且会比通常的市场价格便宜。
年长的巴基斯坦人通常具有与近亲繁殖相关的更强烈、更夸张的面部特征。随着年龄的增长，他们看起来越来越像农民。但在此之前，年轻男性会经历一个阶段，他们可能会被误认为是西班牙人或希腊人，有着坚强的面孔，一些女性认为这很有吸引力。
你还应该意识到，在英国，我们有大量愚蠢的年轻人，他们被我们的精英刻意地剥夺了教育。他们会相信我们奸诈的政客告诉他们的任何事情。
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123
你确定？
Here’s a video of a British Pakistani wedding. They don’t particularly Greek or Italian to me. They look like Indians, but with a slightly lighter skin color.
Here's another video with a large crowd of British Pakistanis. They tend to have the same skinnyfat bodies and unaesthetic faces you see in Indians, but their skin color is a bit lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGwnpHaP0
Even the young men seem to have facial deformities, particularly if you look at their noses.
Replies: @anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce
你确定？
这是英国巴基斯坦婚礼的视频。对我来说，他们并不是特别喜欢希腊语或意大利语。他们看起来像印第安人，但肤色稍浅。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJL_xXcqG60
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
Here’s another video with a large crowd of British Pakistanis. They tend to have the same skinnyfat bodies and unaesthetic faces you see in Indians, but their skin color is a bit lighter.
Even the young men seem to have facial deformities, particularly if you look at their noses.
It's very simple and I don't understand why people don't get it - maybe a person needs a predatory instinct themselves to understand the obvious.
12-13 year old girls especially from children's homes are easy targets because they are desperate for love.
That's it. Not complicated.
Predators target them on that basis. For some reason muslim populations seem have a much higher percentage of those kind of predators than others.
The people whose job it is to protect them won't do it because of political correctness.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hmouQu0dw
No offense, but if your young women are attracted to that, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. We have a moderate sized South Asian population in North America. Most women (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) won't consider them. Indian/Paki men are the omega males of America and Canada. Even below East Asians, who are pretty low on the ladder themselves.
Perhaps British women have different standards of beauty?
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @ben tillman
You might call them 'deformities' but to them, they are normal and typical facial features.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEU5qmMzGz0
As you said, Rotherham was a town built on mining and steel.
During the boom years of the 1960s, presumably, the mining and steel industries were short of labor.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty damned certain that *not one single first generation immigrant Pakistani man to Rotherham, or any other Pakistani, for that matter, ever worked down a coal pit in Rotherham, or indeed anywhere else in England, Wales or Scotland*.
Perhaps some might have worked in the steel mills.
Now, if Pakistanis were NOT imported into Rotherham to 'fill desperately needed labor industrial jobs back in the day', what the Hell were they imported for?
Was there really a national shortage of taxi-drivers and kebab shop owners back in the Wilson years that held back the British 'battle for exports'?
Please reply. I'm deeply curious.
回复：@anon
Cheaper night shift workers for the textile mills (that closed down soon after).
Here's another video with a large crowd of British Pakistanis. They tend to have the same skinnyfat bodies and unaesthetic faces you see in Indians, but their skin color is a bit lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGwnpHaP0
Even the young men seem to have facial deformities, particularly if you look at their noses.
Replies: @anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce
It’s very simple and I don’t understand why people don’t get it – maybe a person needs a predatory instinct themselves to understand the obvious.
12-13 year old girls especially from children’s homes are easy targets because they are desperate for love.
That’s it. Not complicated.
Predators target them on that basis. For some reason muslim populations seem have a much higher percentage of those kind of predators than others.
The people whose job it is to protect them won’t do it because of political correctness.
我同意这一点。
I'm just pointing out there's a difference between:
A. Saying white women like Pakis
B. Saying vulnerable girls are getting preyed on by adults, most of whom are Paki/Muslim
I'm arguing against A), but agree with B).
One other factor that I forgot to point out was drug addiction. Lots of drug dealers in the UK these days are Pakis. So I suppose that could explain why drug addicted underaged girls gravitate toward them to begin with. It's like an alcoholic gravitating toward the liquor store. I remember in one of the articles, some girl claimed that the grooming problem was directly tied in to drug addiction.
Here's another video with a large crowd of British Pakistanis. They tend to have the same skinnyfat bodies and unaesthetic faces you see in Indians, but their skin color is a bit lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGwnpHaP0
Even the young men seem to have facial deformities, particularly if you look at their noses.
Replies: @anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce
No offense, but if your young women are attracted to that, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. We have a moderate sized South Asian population in North America. Most women (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) won’t consider them. Indian/Paki men are the omega males of America and Canada. Even below East Asians, who are pretty low on the ladder themselves.
Perhaps British women have different standards of beauty?
This study of British sexual behavior found the following:
Even with the grooming, STI (formerly STD) rates are pretty low for the Pakistanis.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1486879/Love-league-tables-show-link-to-sexual-disease.html
Here's another study -
This is data taken from England. It comes from the National Chlamydia Screening Program, which is a STI-screening program coordinated by the NHS. The sample size is over 400,000. The participants are in the 15-24 age range.
http://i60.tinypic.com/256zj2w.jpg
British South Asian men have very low rates of chlamydia relative to whites. Blacks are higher though. Interestingly, South Asian women are higher than South Asian men in chlamydia infection, but still lower than white&black women.
回复：@匿名，@ 5371
Did Jemima Goldsmith not marry Imran Khan. Some of those Pakistani men are handsome beasts, and let's face it, British women are about the least attractive of any race, at least if female parliamentarians are anything to go by.
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Mr. Anon, @ben tillman, @5371
Actually I know many Indians (and a Bangladeshi) married to nice white husbands/wives. Many men and women have different expectations. In many cases the usual desire seems to be, for many men, a more 'feminine' (i.e. less aggressive) domestic oriented person. Many STEM men/women also marry fellow STEM women/men, so this becomes assortative. STEM white women are few; so white STEM men select Asian STEM women. For many white women, the desire is stability (i.e. long term marriage, monogamy) and reliable earning power. In case of the white woman who married the Bangladeshi (the guy is a chip designer), the woman unhesitatingly mentioned that most white men she knows are dumb (my guess is she may be from Bakersfield - Fresno area - interior CA ). So, it is not always beauty!
By the way, they have a really smart and good looking daughter, Arianna Afsar, who is a beauty queen and actress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Afsar
See pic. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3334138/
回复：@PV van der Byl
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
我想自从维斯塔贞女崇拜衰落并被基督教取代以来，这一直是这份工作的福利之一。
回复：@ReaderfromGreece
你的理论行不通，因为东正教教会一直允许教区牧师结婚，而早期（分裂前）的基督教牧师大多已结婚。也就是说，你可能会在任何等级森严的机构中发现性虐待，但在强制独身的环境中更是如此。僧侣和尼姑都分别受到对男孩和女孩的性虐待指控的困扰，我认为这与其说是因为同性恋倾向或特定年龄，不如说是因为存在可用、无力和容易沉默的人。
回复：@ReaderfromGreece
They even got rid of the dinners!
Then again, the Republican party was formed to oppose slavery, so...
回复：@ Ivy，@ RegCæsar
Actually, it was formed to combat “those twin relics of barbarism
— Polygamy, and Slavery.”
That’s right out of the 1856 platform:
http://www.ushistory.org/gop/convention_1856republicanplatform.htm
回复：@RegCæsar
I thought those priests were 给予 the blowjobs. The choirboy is more likely to go along with that.
回复：@RegCæsar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hmouQu0dw
No offense, but if your young women are attracted to that, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. We have a moderate sized South Asian population in North America. Most women (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) won't consider them. Indian/Paki men are the omega males of America and Canada. Even below East Asians, who are pretty low on the ladder themselves.
Perhaps British women have different standards of beauty?
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @ben tillman
This study of British sexual behavior found the following:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1486879/Love-league-tables-show-link-to-sexual-disease.html
Even with the grooming, STI (formerly STD) rates are pretty low for the Pakistanis.
Here’s another study –
This is data taken from England. It comes from the National Chlamydia Screening Program, which is a STI-screening program coordinated by the NHS. The sample size is over 400,000. The participants are in the 15-24 age range.
British South Asian men have very low rates of chlamydia relative to whites. Blacks are higher though. Interestingly, South Asian women are higher than South Asian men in chlamydia infection, but still lower than white&black women.
Self reported statistics regarding sexuality cannot be trusted.
I wager that black 'British' rates of promiscuity and infection are an order of magnitude higher than that.
As for Pakistanis, that's more nuanced. Not promiscuity per se, but a heavy, secret, male usage of prostitutes. I would also wager that female Pakistanis are as damned near a 'chaste' and 'faithful' population that you will find anywhere.
回复：@ Anonymous，@ ben tillman
I don't for a moment believe that black "British" women are more chaste than white. Certainly US surveys with a much higher number of participants tell a different story.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
Except that none of these priests actually was a "pedophile" as the term usually means. Their victims were almost entirely teenage boys, not boys who hadn't hit puberty.
I haven't seen the movie Steve's talking about, but I do remember the media talking about them as being pedophiles, while not mentioning the fact that they were gay men. If you don't know much about the Catholic Church (and lots of Americans don't), then you probably don't know that Catholic priests are largely gay today. Back in the seveties, seminaries starting accepting large numbers of gay men who, from what I've heard, started creating a very gay culture there.
But people didn't want to admit that, so they kept asking what was wrong with the Catholic church, and how could this be stopped, when the real, obvious answer was that you were encouraging a lot of gay men to take a job where they would be around lots of adolescent males. What did they think was going to happen?
回复：@RegCæsar
You’d better explain that one. The old liberal seminaries are moribund. No one wants to commit to a mush church anymore. The priests ordained in the ‘7os are due for retirement.
I just answered an appeal from a very conservative nunnery facing a “vocations crisis”– they ran out of room to house all their young postulants. Seminaries are in the same position. The serious ones are not in trouble, and have little tolerance for the gay life.
The future of the Church is not pink.
All right, maybe they aren't now, but for a long time, they were. At the time these priests were getting ordained, they were.
If the church has learned its lesson, then that's great. Maybe they can be part of the great Noticing Revolution.
Check out the Chinese poster for the new Star Wars:
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2015/12/more-sjw-racial-problems-for-star-wars.html?_sm_au_=iMVSqkjVTLNGFGqJ
回复：@先生。 安农
“OT.
Check out the Chinese poster for the new Star Wars:”
I don’t see what the big deal is with a black character in Star Wars. The last movies had one: Samuel L. “Loud Black Man” Jackson playing Mace Dindu.
I don’t imagine that the british film or TV industry is any more likely to make a “Spotlight” like movie about Rotherham than Hollywood is to make a movie about the alleged wide-spread sexual abuse of child-actors in Hollywood.
I just answered an appeal from a very conservative nunnery facing a "vocations crisis"-- they ran out of room to house all their young postulants. Seminaries are in the same position. The serious ones are not in trouble, and have little tolerance for the gay life.
The future of the Church is not pink.
回复：@anon
All right, maybe they aren’t now, but for a long time, they were. At the time these priests were getting ordained, they were.
If the church has learned its lesson, then that’s great. Maybe they can be part of the great Noticing Revolution.
回复：@Jonathan Mason
I put it the other way around on purpose to challenge people’s thinking. I have worked with sex offenders and there is no end to human depravity. The emperor Tiberius was supposed to have obtained oral sex from unweaned infants, and I personally know of a similar case in Florida. Is a priest giving a blow job to an adolescent a gay or a pedophile, and how does one know the difference?
The Church would say he suffers from a moral disorder, and is unfit to be a priest, or even be in communion with the Church, until he repents and reforms.
On paper, that is. Actual results may vary by jurisdiction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hmouQu0dw
No offense, but if your young women are attracted to that, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. We have a moderate sized South Asian population in North America. Most women (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) won't consider them. Indian/Paki men are the omega males of America and Canada. Even below East Asians, who are pretty low on the ladder themselves.
Perhaps British women have different standards of beauty?
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @ben tillman
Did Jemima Goldsmith not marry Imran Khan. Some of those Pakistani men are handsome beasts, and let’s face it, British women are about the least attractive of any race, at least if female parliamentarians are anything to go by.
Okay, but Imran Khan was the world's top cricketer back a few decades ago. Yao Ming used to get groupies throwing themselves at him. Yet I wouldn't extrapolate from that and claim that Chinese men are very popular with girls.
Pakis look like Indians. Handsome beasts? Come on.
回复：@JohnnyWalker123，@Brutusale
"British women are about the least attractive of any race"
Absolute crap. British women are as beautiful as those of any race, and moreso than those of many.
It wasn't for nothing that electoral politics was called showbiz for ugly people.
YOU LIED TO ME!!!!
回复：@anon
For years you have told me that the press was FALLING ALL OVER ITSELF to VILLIFY any white man who gave a black man a cross look. You always talk about NAMS meaning NON-ASIAN minorities (meaning that Asians are pretty much whites).
It doesn’t matter how we talk about them, because we’re not the ones running CNN and the New York Times. The Democratic party is the party of the fringes, and despite their high IQs, low crime rate, and general quality of life, Asians are still part of the “fringe”, meaning that the Democratic media isn’t falling all over themselves to cover their misdeeds.
Did Jemima Goldsmith not marry Imran Khan. Some of those Pakistani men are handsome beasts, and let's face it, British women are about the least attractive of any race, at least if female parliamentarians are anything to go by.
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Mr. Anon, @ben tillman, @5371
Okay, but Imran Khan was the world’s top cricketer back a few decades ago. Yao Ming used to get groupies throwing themselves at him. Yet I wouldn’t extrapolate from that and claim that Chinese men are very popular with girls.
Pakis look like Indians. Handsome beasts? Come on.
Rewatch the videos I posted. Find one handsome guy in any of those tapes. I bet you can't.
Pakis are Indians with slightly lighter skin and (perhaps due to cousin marriage) a little more in facial deformity.
I'm sure some women would disagree:
http://photos.filmibeat.com/celebs/salman-khan/photos-c9-e10695-p579532.html
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
It's very simple and I don't understand why people don't get it - maybe a person needs a predatory instinct themselves to understand the obvious.
12-13 year old girls especially from children's homes are easy targets because they are desperate for love.
That's it. Not complicated.
Predators target them on that basis. For some reason muslim populations seem have a much higher percentage of those kind of predators than others.
The people whose job it is to protect them won't do it because of political correctness.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
我同意这一点。
I’m just pointing out there’s a difference between:
A. Saying white women like Pakis
B. Saying vulnerable girls are getting preyed on by adults, most of whom are Paki/Muslim
I’m arguing against A), but agree with B).
One other factor that I forgot to point out was drug addiction. Lots of drug dealers in the UK these days are Pakis. So I suppose that could explain why drug addicted underaged girls gravitate toward them to begin with. It’s like an alcoholic gravitating toward the liquor store. I remember in one of the articles, some girl claimed that the grooming problem was directly tied in to drug addiction.
Okay, but Imran Khan was the world's top cricketer back a few decades ago. Yao Ming used to get groupies throwing themselves at him. Yet I wouldn't extrapolate from that and claim that Chinese men are very popular with girls.
Pakis look like Indians. Handsome beasts? Come on.
回复：@JohnnyWalker123，@Brutusale
Rewatch the videos I posted. Find one handsome guy in any of those tapes. I bet you can’t.
Pakis are Indians with slightly lighter skin and (perhaps due to cousin marriage) a little more in facial deformity.
Yeah, they'd get arrested. So what? Sometimes you need to be a man.
回复：@anon，@Anonymous
There used to be. One of the most famous pastimes of the old skinheads was “Paki-bashing”.
Supposedly, this was due to racism, pure and simple. But given the fact that I only know about it from the media, how would I really know if it WAS done as a form of retaliation?
If you believe what the modern media tells you, you’d think that lynching had nothing to do with crimes committed by blacks, and was just a bunch of stupid white guys killing blacks for no reason.
Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Truth, @Anonymous
I always wonder myself when I read these comments. And they’re often from guys I think are in their 20’s.
At the very least it sheds some light on why you guys have such a low birthrate.
At the very least it sheds some light on why you guys have such a low birthrate.
Do you see any connection to our relatively low STD rate?
回复：@Truth
Yeah. Black American women turn into such lithe babes after the age of 25. Irrisistible.
I take it you were addressing Kudzu Bob.
IIRC, he was busy on a project and said he'd be back when he had more time. I hope so.
回复：@Truth
At the very least it sheds some light on why you guys have such a low birthrate.
回复：@anon，@Bill B。
At the very least it sheds some light on why you guys have such a low birthrate.
Do you see any connection to our relatively low STD rate?
Well of course, I think that would go without saying. Little sex = fewer SEXUALLY transmitted diseases (for better or worse).
At the very least it sheds some light on why you guys have such a low birthrate.
回复：@anon，@Bill B。
Yeah. Black American women turn into such lithe babes after the age of 25. Irrisistible.
Did Jemima Goldsmith not marry Imran Khan. Some of those Pakistani men are handsome beasts, and let's face it, British women are about the least attractive of any race, at least if female parliamentarians are anything to go by.
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Mr. Anon, @ben tillman, @5371
“British women are about the least attractive of any race”
Absolute crap. British women are as beautiful as those of any race, and moreso than those of many.
真的吗？我认为英国白人女性讨厌南亚和穆斯林男性。据我所知，如果他们跨种族混合，他们大多喜欢非裔加勒比人。
所有性诱骗团伙之所以存在，是因为男人无法通过常规手段上床。
回复：@Expletive 已删除、@Broken Britain、@anon、@Anonymous
As you must know, judicious bribes of cash – and in the case of Rotherham, hard liquor, cigarettes, illicit drugs of all sorts – including cocaine and heroin -, and not to mention ‘free’ doner kebabs with chips, and yes probably ‘chili sauce’ , do wonders everywhere to breakdown ‘natural female modesty and apprehension of men’.
Even if the men are popularly characterized as ‘alien, smelly, dirty, primitive, foreign, strange, nerdy etc’.
‘This the story of the human condition, as viewed through male eyes.
回复：@Anonymous
I don't live in Rotherham but I have lived in a similar northern English town. The post above is correct. Young Pakistan men are seen as a catch by some white women. As far as I can work out it boils down to money and looks.
大多数巴基斯坦男人都在操纵这个系统，他们的口袋里有钱。如果他们担任出租车司机，那么他们将声称自己是兼职工作，因此他们将有资格领取社会保障金，但他们将是全职工作，并且不会为其收入纳税。无论他们购买什么，都将通过内部穆斯林联系购买，并且会比通常的市场价格便宜。
年长的巴基斯坦人通常具有与近亲繁殖相关的更强烈、更夸张的面部特征。随着年龄的增长，他们看起来越来越像农民。但在此之前，年轻男性会经历一个阶段，他们可能会被误认为是西班牙人或希腊人，有着坚强的面孔，一些女性认为这很有吸引力。
你还应该意识到，在英国，我们有大量愚蠢的年轻人，他们被我们的精英刻意地剥夺了教育。他们会相信我们奸诈的政客告诉他们的任何事情。
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123
去过这些国家的有头脑的人都不可能将希腊人或西班牙人误认为巴基斯坦人。
一般来说，巴基斯坦人是坚果棕色的。
Look at pictures of Notis Sfakianakis and Imran Khan. Do they look like people from different races? I don't think so. Because of Alexander the Great I imagine many Pakistanis have some Greek blood.
伊姆兰·汗被英国女性视为非常有魅力的男人。并非只有下层阶级的女性才会被所谓的地中海风格所吸引。众所周知，蒙巴顿勋爵担任印度总督时，他的妻子与巴基斯坦领导人真纳有染。
Another factor which makes Pakistani men attractive to some British women is the fact that they will have a good car. That car will probably not be insured and the driver will probably not have passed his driving test legally but that will just make the driver more exiting and interesting in the woman's eyes. These young Pakistani men drive very fast and dangerously. Most of the time you read in the UK of some kid or old person being knocked down by a car going too fast the driver will be a young Muslim male.
Someone above mentioned that Muslims did not work in the steel mills. Well, I can tell you that I worked for British Steel and we already had special Muslim toilets - i.e. without seats - in 1971. At the time we laughed at them, but one of my co-workers said that it won't be long before all toilets will be like that. At work the Muslims used to put in the hours but the ones I knew didn't put in much effort.
Replies: @5371, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous
Yeah, they'd get arrested. So what? Sometimes you need to be a man.
回复：@anon，@Anonymous
Mainly because the entire government, police/state apparatus of Britain – up to and including the full military firepower of the army, not to mention the entirety of the press, BBC, ITV, Sky News, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Cardinal of Westminster, the heads of the Methodist and Baptist churches, the House of Lords, the House of Commons, and outside Britain the UN, the EU, the European Court, NATO, and the biggie the President and Congress of the USA and thus the might of the Pentagon and the CIA, and lastly and lastly the shrill buttholes of the NYT, the WSJ, Time and the arch-wankers at The Economist, will be utterly UNANIMOUS in their expressed desire to *破坏* those whites with ‘extreme prejudice’.
– and I’m not joking or exaggerating.
It was kind of stupid to investigate anyway. I mean, what kind of proof could there have been even if it was true? Unless the bouncer or whoever admitted it, they'd never be able to prove it anyway.
Of course, the BLM types realize this. It'll go down in their mythology and stay there forever. They'll still claim it happened, but it just couldn't be proven one way or the other.
I always wonder why people would make up stories so dumb. Could anyone at Yale really be so stupid as to ADMIT that they were not allowing black people in, in a day and age when everything you say could easily be recorded?
But that's probably why. Because it doesn't matter to the other activist types that it's a stupid story. It'll still serve its purpose for as long as they want it to.
回复：@Hhsiii
I’ll bet they said “hot chicks only”. Sounds similar and could have a similar effect depending on the makeup of the crowd. I guarantee some ugly white girls didn’t get in either. Anyone who has ever been to a nightclub with a velvet rope knows this score.
And the plain girls would be just as disgusted. Another example of Steve’s argument on retconning.
Here's another video with a large crowd of British Pakistanis. They tend to have the same skinnyfat bodies and unaesthetic faces you see in Indians, but their skin color is a bit lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGwnpHaP0
Even the young men seem to have facial deformities, particularly if you look at their noses.
Replies: @anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce
You might call them ‘deformities’ but to them, they are normal and typical facial features.
I'm sure aborigines find themselves attractive.
This study of British sexual behavior found the following:
Even with the grooming, STI (formerly STD) rates are pretty low for the Pakistanis.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1486879/Love-league-tables-show-link-to-sexual-disease.html
Here's another study -
This is data taken from England. It comes from the National Chlamydia Screening Program, which is a STI-screening program coordinated by the NHS. The sample size is over 400,000. The participants are in the 15-24 age range.
http://i60.tinypic.com/256zj2w.jpg
British South Asian men have very low rates of chlamydia relative to whites. Blacks are higher though. Interestingly, South Asian women are higher than South Asian men in chlamydia infection, but still lower than white&black women.
回复：@匿名，@ 5371
Self reported statistics regarding sexuality cannot be trusted.
I wager that black ‘British’ rates of promiscuity and infection are an order of magnitude higher than that.
As for Pakistanis, that’s more nuanced. Not promiscuity per se, but a heavy, secret, male usage of prostitutes. I would also wager that female Pakistanis are as damned near a ‘chaste’ and ‘faithful’ population that you will find anywhere.
Due to a medical problem involving my vision, I used to make many visits to an 'outpatient clinic' housed in a large 'teaching hospital' in southwest London, which I shall abbreviate as 'St.G's', a world famous medical institution.
This hospital, a giant concern, has many varied clinics and wards all housed in a large sprawling campus type affair. Basically, a newcomer is likely to get lost in there, wandering around to find his particular clinic.
Anyhow, on more than one occasion I was asked by a black male patient for directions to the 'VD clinic'.
我可以做你的赌徒吗？
I seem to recall that one of Princess Diana’s lovers was a Pakistani.
Actually she had at least two well known Muslim lovers. Hasnat Khan was a Paki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasnat_Khan Dodi Fayed was Egyptian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodi_Fayed
Replies: @The most deplorable one, @Truth, @Anonymous
Question away dear boy. People have had sex with animals too which doesn’t exactly bolster their heterosexual credentials. They don’t like them them they don’t care for them, it’s up to them what they consider attractive.
Self reported statistics regarding sexuality cannot be trusted.
I wager that black 'British' rates of promiscuity and infection are an order of magnitude higher than that.
As for Pakistanis, that's more nuanced. Not promiscuity per se, but a heavy, secret, male usage of prostitutes. I would also wager that female Pakistanis are as damned near a 'chaste' and 'faithful' population that you will find anywhere.
回复：@ Anonymous，@ ben tillman
Due to a medical problem involving my vision, I used to make many visits to an ‘outpatient clinic’ housed in a large ‘teaching hospital’ in southwest London, which I shall abbreviate as ‘St.G’s’, a world famous medical institution.
This hospital, a giant concern, has many varied clinics and wards all housed in a large sprawling campus type affair. Basically, a newcomer is likely to get lost in there, wandering around to find his particular clinic.
Anyhow, on more than one occasion I was asked by a black male patient for directions to the ‘VD clinic’.
回复：@RegCæsar
Those are clinical terms– and 恋童癖 is an abuse of Greek.
The Church would say he suffers from a moral disorder, and is unfit to be a priest, or even be in communion with the Church, until he repents and reforms.
On paper, that is. Actual results may vary by jurisdiction.
As you must know, judicious bribes of cash - and in the case of Rotherham, hard liquor, cigarettes, illicit drugs of all sorts - including cocaine and heroin -, and not to mention 'free' doner kebabs with chips, and yes probably 'chili sauce' , do wonders everywhere to breakdown 'natural female modesty and apprehension of men'.
Even if the men are popularly characterized as 'alien, smelly, dirty, primitive, foreign, strange, nerdy etc'.
'This the story of the human condition, as viewed through male eyes.
回复：@RegCæsar
You left out chocolates.
没有
Chocolates are for 'romancing' along with roses and perfume.
I don't think that any of that went on.
The closest thing to 'perfume' was the rancid stink of old congealed lamb-meat turning around a spit. And 'spit' is the operative word.
回复：@Anonymous
去过这些国家的有头脑的人都不可能将希腊人或西班牙人误认为巴基斯坦人。
一般来说，巴基斯坦人是坚果棕色的。
回复：@破碎的英国
看看诺蒂斯·斯法基纳基斯和伊姆兰·汗的照片。他们看起来像来自不同种族的人吗？我不这么认为。因为亚历山大大帝，我想许多巴基斯坦人都有一些希腊血统。
伊姆兰·汗被英国女性视为非常有魅力的男人。并非只有下层阶级的女性才会被所谓的地中海风格所吸引。众所周知，蒙巴顿勋爵担任印度总督时，他的妻子与巴基斯坦领导人真纳有染。
巴基斯坦男性对一些英国女性有吸引力的另一个因素是他们拥有一辆好车。那辆车可能没有保险，司机也可能没有通过合法的驾驶考试，但这只会让司机在女人眼中更加令人兴奋和有趣。这些巴基斯坦年轻人开车速度很快而且很危险。大多数时候，你在英国读到一些孩子或老人被一辆速度太快的汽车撞倒的报道，司机都是一位年轻的穆斯林男性。
上面有人提到穆斯林不在钢厂工作。好吧，我可以告诉你，我在英国钢铁公司工作，我们在 1971 年就已经有了特殊的穆斯林厕所，即没有座位。当时我们嘲笑他们，但我的一位同事说这不会太久之前所有的厕所都会这样。穆斯林过去常常在工作中投入大量时间，但我认识的穆斯林并没有付出太多努力。
尼赫鲁不是真纳。
我发布的视频中没有一个巴基斯坦人看起来像伊姆兰·汗那样是白人。说伊姆兰·汗是巴基斯坦人的代表，就像说姚明代表典型的中国人一样准确。
你可能就在这里。当那些经过性打扮的女孩被问及为什么要和美容师一起去时，她们经常提到与汽车相关的兴奋。无论如何，汗的祖先来自阿富汗，所以他甚至不是巴基斯坦人。他是普什图人。几乎所有英属巴基斯坦人都是卡什米尔人或旁遮普人，而不是帕坦人。
许多巴基斯坦人都有浅橄榄色皮肤，但具有印度特征。不是地中海特征。
对了，视频快进到2分14秒。这些美容师中有哪位的容貌能让女孩觉得有吸引力吗？
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB6zMIrIx-g
回复：@Jefferson
如果你确实无法区分希腊人和巴基斯坦人，那么我对此事无话可说。
回复：@Anonymous
没有
Chocolates are for ‘romancing’ along with roses and perfume.
I don’t think that any of that went on.
The closest thing to ‘perfume’ was the rancid stink of old congealed lamb-meat turning around a spit. And ‘spit’ is the operative word.
Consider the case of one Charlotte Downes, from Blackpool, England.
Charlotte, who I believe was around 15 years old, apparently 'vanished off the face of the earth' a good few years ago.
She was strongly implicated in a Syrian/Pakistani/Afghan or whatever prostitution ring centered around the 'Mr. Beanz' kebab house in Blackpool - that fast-food joint was enlived by an advertising storefront featuring the image of Rowan Atkinson - he should sue.
Anyhow, the local police suspected and still suspect 'foul play' from the fast food joint owners/workers. A police phone tap revealed the statement that the owner of the joint, 'filleted Charlotte's body and ground the 'meat' down into kebabs'. Apparently, the police did not take this as a 'joke'.
The great British justice system awarded the defendants huge cash sums as 'compensation' for various technicalities, although the police are damned near certain that a murder, never mind total body disposal, did take place.
Your theory doesn't work because the Eastern Orthodox Church has always permitted parish priests to marry, and early (pre-Schism) Christian clergymen were largely married. That said, you could probably find sexual abuse in any rigidly hierarchical institution, but all the more in an environment of enforced celibacy. Both monks and nuns have been haunted by accusations of sexual abuse of boys and girls, respectively, and I assume it's less because of a proclivity to homosexuality or certain ages than, to put it rawly, what beings are available, powerless, and easily silenced.
回复：@Percy Gryce
Not quite. The rule in the Orthodox churches is that married men may be ordained to the diaconate and the priesthood, but a man already ordained to those orders may not marry. Thus a widowed or divorced deacon or priest may not remarry. Additionally, bishops are always selected from among the monastic class and thus are never married–and, of course, cannot wed after being consecrated as bishops. The pre-Schism episcopate was almost uniformly celibate.
有人告诉我，大多数早期的牧师都已婚，但这也许是错误的信息。
Actually, many ranks of bishops can be widowed, though not divorced. If I understood correctly, Jonathan Mason's original comment inferred that one of the "perks" of early Christianity was that the very male-populated and celibate environment attracted a lot of homosexual men (perhaps free from the pressure to marry and produce children?). That's what I think doesn't seem likely, given that Eastern Orthodox priests can be married. And you'll actually find that the majority do get married, and there is a common tradition of many generations of priests in a family, from father to son(s). Yes, there are various strict marital rules and limitations, but the ability to be recognized as a sexual being (without the atonement for that inherent sin, as in the Catholic church) and work for the church has been present since the earliest forms of Christianity.
回复：@Tracy
Here's another video with a large crowd of British Pakistanis. They tend to have the same skinnyfat bodies and unaesthetic faces you see in Indians, but their skin color is a bit lighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGwnpHaP0
Even the young men seem to have facial deformities, particularly if you look at their noses.
Replies: @anon, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce
Uh-hm:
没有
Chocolates are for 'romancing' along with roses and perfume.
I don't think that any of that went on.
The closest thing to 'perfume' was the rancid stink of old congealed lamb-meat turning around a spit. And 'spit' is the operative word.
回复：@Anonymous
Consider the case of one Charlotte Downes, from Blackpool, England.
Charlotte, who I believe was around 15 years old, apparently ‘vanished off the face of the earth’ a good few years ago.
She was strongly implicated in a Syrian/Pakistani/Afghan or whatever prostitution ring centered around the ‘Mr. Beanz’ kebab house in Blackpool – that fast-food joint was enlived by an advertising storefront featuring the image of Rowan Atkinson – he should sue.
Anyhow, the local police suspected and still suspect ‘foul play’ from the fast food joint owners/workers. A police phone tap revealed the statement that the owner of the joint, ‘filleted Charlotte’s body and ground the ‘meat’ down into kebabs’. Apparently, the police did not take this as a ‘joke’.
The great British justice system awarded the defendants huge cash sums as ‘compensation’ for various technicalities, although the police are damned near certain that a murder, never mind total body disposal, did take place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hmouQu0dw
No offense, but if your young women are attracted to that, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. We have a moderate sized South Asian population in North America. Most women (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) won't consider them. Indian/Paki men are the omega males of America and Canada. Even below East Asians, who are pretty low on the ladder themselves.
Perhaps British women have different standards of beauty?
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @ben tillman
Actually I know many Indians (and a Bangladeshi) married to nice white husbands/wives. Many men and women have different expectations. In many cases the usual desire seems to be, for many men, a more ‘feminine’ (i.e. less aggressive) domestic oriented person. Many STEM men/women also marry fellow STEM women/men, so this becomes assortative. STEM white women are few; so white STEM men select Asian STEM women. For many white women, the desire is stability (i.e. long term marriage, monogamy) and reliable earning power. In case of the white woman who married the Bangladeshi (the guy is a chip designer), the woman unhesitatingly mentioned that most white men she knows are dumb (my guess is she may be from Bakersfield – Fresno area – interior CA ). So, it is not always beauty!
By the way, they have a really smart and good looking daughter, Arianna Afsar, who is a beauty queen and actress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Afsar
See pic. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3334138/
感谢那些链接。
Arianna is a real winner!
I don't live in Rotherham but I have lived in a similar northern English town. The post above is correct. Young Pakistan men are seen as a catch by some white women. As far as I can work out it boils down to money and looks.
大多数巴基斯坦男人都在操纵这个系统，他们的口袋里有钱。如果他们担任出租车司机，那么他们将声称自己是兼职工作，因此他们将有资格领取社会保障金，但他们将是全职工作，并且不会为其收入纳税。无论他们购买什么，都将通过内部穆斯林联系购买，并且会比通常的市场价格便宜。
年长的巴基斯坦人通常具有与近亲繁殖相关的更强烈、更夸张的面部特征。随着年龄的增长，他们看起来越来越像农民。但在此之前，年轻男性会经历一个阶段，他们可能会被误认为是西班牙人或希腊人，有着坚强的面孔，一些女性认为这很有吸引力。
你还应该意识到，在英国，我们有大量愚蠢的年轻人，他们被我们的精英刻意地剥夺了教育。他们会相信我们奸诈的政客告诉他们的任何事情。
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @JohnnyWalker123
安·库尔特转发了罗瑟勒姆丑闻。
在你看来，这些人中有人看起来像希腊人/西班牙人吗？
At the very least it sheds some light on why you guys have such a low birthrate.
Do you see any connection to our relatively low STD rate?
回复：@Truth
Well of course, I think that would go without saying. Little sex = fewer SEXUALLY transmitted diseases (for better or worse).
You might call them 'deformities' but to them, they are normal and typical facial features.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
I’m sure aborigines find themselves attractive.
回复：@anon、@Wilkey、@International Jew、@hbd 小鸡、@JohnnyWalker123、@Hapalong Cassidy、@AndrewR、@bentilman
You’re pointing to an example of human biodiversity. Why would that be a problem for “human biodiversity” people?
Okay, but Imran Khan was the world's top cricketer back a few decades ago. Yao Ming used to get groupies throwing themselves at him. Yet I wouldn't extrapolate from that and claim that Chinese men are very popular with girls.
Pakis look like Indians. Handsome beasts? Come on.
回复：@JohnnyWalker123，@Brutusale
I’m sure some women would disagree:
http://photos.filmibeat.com/celebs/salman-khan/photos-c9-e10695-p579532.html
Those pictures are photshopped.
Here's what he really looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6v_Tcdp3Jk
Greek/Spanish lothario.
回复：@Brutusale
They can call him white in the newspapers but he doesn't look white enough for TV.
I guess they learned their lesson after assuming someone with a name like Zimmerman would be white.
good attempted deflection though - well not really - in either sense of the word
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Truth, @ben tillman
They didn’t presume he was white because of his name; they presumed it because the police report said he was white.
My mistake, ty.
The conclusion is the same though. The media started an anti-white lynching with Zimmerman and then couldn't back down when they realised that the guy only looking half-white was making white people think the media is driven by anti-white racism - which they are - so they're not making the same mistake with Holztclaw.
回复：@ben tillman
1) Good for her. She realises the significance.
nb “Rotherham” is a good label but it’s important to realise it’s not just one town. The media try to corral it to Rotherham because they want to pretend it was a specific failure in one town. They are lying. It is all over the UK (and western Europe).
https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map/
2) A lot of people want to try and deflect the blame onto the girls because they realise how damaging the story is to the pro-immigration agenda.
3) The true story is it fits a version of jihad that revolves around rape and forced marriage that is going on from Egypt to England – low level religious warfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1hmouQu0dw
No offense, but if your young women are attracted to that, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. We have a moderate sized South Asian population in North America. Most women (white, black, Asian, Hispanic) won't consider them. Indian/Paki men are the omega males of America and Canada. Even below East Asians, who are pretty low on the ladder themselves.
Perhaps British women have different standards of beauty?
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @ben tillman
It sounds more like they like Pakis because the Pakis are socially dominant. They are the victors in teh ethnic conflict, while Englishmen are the vanquished.
Pakis and whites have similar arrest rates.
Also, commenter "Simon in London" said this:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/trying-to-gentrify-a-jihadi-neighborhood-the-molenbeek-case-study/#comment-1237370Part of social street dominance is beating up strangers to mark your territory. That's often been associated with blacks, but I'm not sure if that's associated with the South Asian Muslims.
South Asians, by the way, were underrepresented during the 2011 British riots.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-rioting/
回复：@anon
My mistake, ty.
The conclusion is the same though. The media started an anti-white lynching with Zimmerman and then couldn’t back down when they realised that the guy only looking half-white was making white people think the media is driven by anti-white racism – which they are – so they’re not making the same mistake with Holztclaw.
我赞同你。
Did Jemima Goldsmith not marry Imran Khan. Some of those Pakistani men are handsome beasts, and let's face it, British women are about the least attractive of any race, at least if female parliamentarians are anything to go by.
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Mr. Anon, @ben tillman, @5371
I haven’t spent much time in Britain, but there’s no doubt that British-美国人 women are the most beautiful in the world.
Self reported statistics regarding sexuality cannot be trusted.
I wager that black 'British' rates of promiscuity and infection are an order of magnitude higher than that.
As for Pakistanis, that's more nuanced. Not promiscuity per se, but a heavy, secret, male usage of prostitutes. I would also wager that female Pakistanis are as damned near a 'chaste' and 'faithful' population that you will find anywhere.
回复：@ Anonymous，@ ben tillman
You’d wager that more than 100% of whites in Britain have had an STI?
我可以做你的赌徒吗？
Did Jemima Goldsmith not marry Imran Khan. Some of those Pakistani men are handsome beasts, and let's face it, British women are about the least attractive of any race, at least if female parliamentarians are anything to go by.
Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Mr. Anon, @ben tillman, @5371
It wasn’t for nothing that electoral politics was called showbiz for ugly people.
回复：@ReaderfromGreece
有人告诉我，大多数早期的牧师都已婚，但这也许是错误的信息。
事实上，许多级别的主教可以丧偶，但不能离婚。如果我理解正确的话，乔纳森·梅森最初的评论推断，早期基督教的“福利”之一是，男性人口众多且独身的环境吸引了很多同性恋男性（也许没有结婚生子的压力？）。鉴于东正教牧师可以结婚，我认为这似乎不太可能。事实上，你会发现大多数人都结婚了，而且一个家庭中从父亲到儿子的许多代牧师都有一个共同的传统。是的，有各种严格的婚姻规则和限制，但是自基督教最早的形式以来，就存在着被承认为性存在的能力（没有对固有罪恶的赎罪，如在天主教堂中）和为教会工作。
回复：@ReaderfromGreece
回复：@ 5371
It must have been in his football days that he got hooked on black women.
This study of British sexual behavior found the following:
Even with the grooming, STI (formerly STD) rates are pretty low for the Pakistanis.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1486879/Love-league-tables-show-link-to-sexual-disease.html
Here's another study -
This is data taken from England. It comes from the National Chlamydia Screening Program, which is a STI-screening program coordinated by the NHS. The sample size is over 400,000. The participants are in the 15-24 age range.
http://i60.tinypic.com/256zj2w.jpg
British South Asian men have very low rates of chlamydia relative to whites. Blacks are higher though. Interestingly, South Asian women are higher than South Asian men in chlamydia infection, but still lower than white&black women.
回复：@匿名，@ 5371
I don’t for a moment believe that black “British” women are more chaste than white. Certainly US surveys with a much higher number of participants tell a different story.
Black women self-report fewer partners than White British women, but self-report a higher rate of lifetime STI infection.
这意味着什么？
It implies black women are underreporting the number of sexual partners they've had. This is likely due to cultural stigma against promiscuous women.
What? Not all gays are pedophiles. Not all gay priests are pedophiles. The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality.
Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @anon, @Percy Gryce, @Bill
“Not all gays are pedophiles.”
No, not all. However, gays have a much greater orientation towards youth than do normal men. Not all blacks are stupid.
“The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. ”
No, they are pretty much standard issue faggots. They act the way faggots act. Those stereotypes about chicken hawks and recruitment? Like most stereotypes, they are true.
“Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality.”
Of course not. It’s a well known principle of psychiatry that having one mental illness in no way makes it more likely that you have other mental illnesses. Also, high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease have nothing to do with one another.
Interesting how Steve allows the unhinged and unemployed, like our pitiful friend Bill here, to pollute what is supposed to be an intellectual space with childish, hateful slurs like "faggot", while deleting other, far less toxic comments due to... I don't know, really.
But keep begging hat in hand for donations, Steve. It's enjoyable to watch.
回复：@anon
I hate actually spelling it out because under normal circumstances it’s a good thing if a lot of people are too stupid to figure it out themselves but as this is quite important I suppose it has to be said.
A situation that revolves around 12-13 year old girls from children’s homes or broken homes has nothing to do with
- 吸引力
– social dominance
– alpha males.
12-13 year old girls from children’s homes can be manipulated into anything if you tell them you love them.
That is it. Nothing else.
Under normal circumstances I’d be glad a lot of people are too stupid to understand this but in a politically correct society I suppose it has to be spelled out because predators are taking advantage of that fact and the people who should be protecting these girls while they’re at their most vulnerable, aren’t doing it.
and again, the critical point is the US has a chance to prevent this happening.
Look at pictures of Notis Sfakianakis and Imran Khan. Do they look like people from different races? I don't think so. Because of Alexander the Great I imagine many Pakistanis have some Greek blood.
伊姆兰·汗被英国女性视为非常有魅力的男人。并非只有下层阶级的女性才会被所谓的地中海风格所吸引。众所周知，蒙巴顿勋爵担任印度总督时，他的妻子与巴基斯坦领导人真纳有染。
Another factor which makes Pakistani men attractive to some British women is the fact that they will have a good car. That car will probably not be insured and the driver will probably not have passed his driving test legally but that will just make the driver more exiting and interesting in the woman's eyes. These young Pakistani men drive very fast and dangerously. Most of the time you read in the UK of some kid or old person being knocked down by a car going too fast the driver will be a young Muslim male.
Someone above mentioned that Muslims did not work in the steel mills. Well, I can tell you that I worked for British Steel and we already had special Muslim toilets - i.e. without seats - in 1971. At the time we laughed at them, but one of my co-workers said that it won't be long before all toilets will be like that. At work the Muslims used to put in the hours but the ones I knew didn't put in much effort.
Replies: @5371, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous
尼赫鲁不是真纳。
I'm sure some women would disagree:
http://photos.filmibeat.com/celebs/salman-khan/photos-c9-e10695-p579532.html
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
Those pictures are photshopped.
Here’s what he really looks like:
Greek/Spanish lothario.
Yeah, unlike the shots of every leading man and starlet in Hollywood, right?
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
Bear in mind “black” in the UK used to just mean Caribbean but in the last 16 years or so there was an explosion from Africa including a lot of north and east African moslems. They do FGM for a reason.
(By that I just mean the “black” average in the UK is in a process of transition. I don’t know where it currently is.)
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(Charlene)
An addendum to that is the police were ignoring the grooming same as everywhere else. The only reason the grooming / murder connection came about was because MI5 had the guys involved under surveillance as possible jihadist suspects and they joked about the murder / dismemberment on tape.
The police had been pretending it was a missing person case but the info leaked and they had to turn it into a murder investigation even though all they had was the tape which wasn’t enough on its own in the context of joking.
There is probably more evidence out there but locked inside a community that won’t talk.
好点子。
Those pictures are photshopped.
Here's what he really looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6v_Tcdp3Jk
Greek/Spanish lothario.
回复：@Brutusale
Yeah, unlike the shots of every leading man and starlet in Hollywood, right?
That guy is supposed to represent the apex of South Asian handsomeness. There may be a lot of ugly Hollywood actors, but most of them are far better looking. Even our ugly guys are still well above him. If that's the best you can find, then my point stands.
Anyway the videos I posted earlier contain a more representative cross section of what the men look like. I really doubt anyone could find those men appealing. Though, as has been pointed out, a drug addicted woman might find any man attractive if he's got cocaine and heroin.
Salman Khan looks a bit like Keith Allen (UK actor who is good looking in a battered sort of way).
Caste probably has something to do with this. One of the factors in this whole debate is the western political elite are deliberately dealing from the bottom of the deck because they want cheap labor.
Keith Allen looks like a washed up drunk.
"Not all gays are pedophiles."
No, not all. However, gays have a much greater orientation towards youth than do normal men. Not all blacks are stupid.
"The abuser priests are pedophiles who happen to be gay. "
No, they are pretty much standard issue faggots. They act the way faggots act. Those stereotypes about chicken hawks and recruitment? Like most stereotypes, they are true.
"Their pedophilia has nothing to do with their homosexuality."
Of course not. It's a well known principle of psychiatry that having one mental illness in no way makes it more likely that you have other mental illnesses. Also, high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease have nothing to do with one another.
回复：@AndrewR
Interesting how Steve allows the unhinged and unemployed, like our pitiful friend Bill here, to pollute what is supposed to be an intellectual space with childish, hateful slurs like “faggot”, while deleting other, far less toxic comments due to… I don’t know, really.
But keep begging hat in hand for donations, Steve. It’s enjoyable to watch.
to pollute what is supposed to be an intellectual space with childish, hateful slurs like “faggot”, while deleting other, far less toxic comments due to… I don’t know, really.
Excessive prissiness, perhaps?
Why didn't you respond to his points?
Interesting how Steve allows the unhinged and unemployed, like our pitiful friend Bill here, to pollute what is supposed to be an intellectual space with childish, hateful slurs like "faggot", while deleting other, far less toxic comments due to... I don't know, really.
But keep begging hat in hand for donations, Steve. It's enjoyable to watch.
回复：@anon
to pollute what is supposed to be an intellectual space with childish, hateful slurs like “faggot”, while deleting other, far less toxic comments due to… I don’t know, really.
Excessive prissiness, perhaps?
Why didn’t you respond to his points?
I don't for a moment believe that black "British" women are more chaste than white. Certainly US surveys with a much higher number of participants tell a different story.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
Black women self-report fewer partners than White British women, but self-report a higher rate of lifetime STI infection.
这意味着什么？
It implies black women are underreporting the number of sexual partners they’ve had. This is likely due to cultural stigma against promiscuous women.
Caste probably has something to do with this. One of the factors in this whole debate is the western political elite are deliberately dealing from the bottom of the deck because they want cheap labor.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
Keith Allen looks like a washed up drunk.
Yeah, unlike the shots of every leading man and starlet in Hollywood, right?
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
That guy is supposed to represent the apex of South Asian handsomeness. There may be a lot of ugly Hollywood actors, but most of them are far better looking. Even our ugly guys are still well above him. If that’s the best you can find, then my point stands.
Anyway the videos I posted earlier contain a more representative cross section of what the men look like. I really doubt anyone could find those men appealing. Though, as has been pointed out, a drug addicted woman might find any man attractive if he’s got cocaine and heroin.
回复：@epebble
Actually she had at least two well known Muslim lovers. Hasnat Khan was a Paki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasnat_Khan Dodi Fayed was Egyptian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodi_Fayed
Look at pictures of Notis Sfakianakis and Imran Khan. Do they look like people from different races? I don't think so. Because of Alexander the Great I imagine many Pakistanis have some Greek blood.
伊姆兰·汗被英国女性视为非常有魅力的男人。并非只有下层阶级的女性才会被所谓的地中海风格所吸引。众所周知，蒙巴顿勋爵担任印度总督时，他的妻子与巴基斯坦领导人真纳有染。
Another factor which makes Pakistani men attractive to some British women is the fact that they will have a good car. That car will probably not be insured and the driver will probably not have passed his driving test legally but that will just make the driver more exiting and interesting in the woman's eyes. These young Pakistani men drive very fast and dangerously. Most of the time you read in the UK of some kid or old person being knocked down by a car going too fast the driver will be a young Muslim male.
Someone above mentioned that Muslims did not work in the steel mills. Well, I can tell you that I worked for British Steel and we already had special Muslim toilets - i.e. without seats - in 1971. At the time we laughed at them, but one of my co-workers said that it won't be long before all toilets will be like that. At work the Muslims used to put in the hours but the ones I knew didn't put in much effort.
Replies: @5371, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous
我发布的视频中没有一个巴基斯坦人看起来像伊姆兰·汗那样是白人。说伊姆兰·汗是巴基斯坦人的代表，就像说姚明代表典型的中国人一样准确。
Anyway, Khan’s ancestors are originally from Afghanistan, so he’s not even ethnically Pakistani. He’s a Pashtun. Almost all British Pakistanis are Kasmiri or Panjabi, not Pathan.
许多巴基斯坦人都有浅橄榄色皮肤，但具有印度特征。不是地中海特征。
你可能就在这里。当那些经过性打扮的女孩被问及为什么要和美容师一起去时，她们经常提到与汽车相关的兴奋。
对了，视频快进到2分14秒。这些美容师中有哪位的容貌能让女孩觉得有吸引力吗？
"A lot of the Pakis have light olive skin, but Indian features. Not Meditteranean features."
The lightest skin Pakistanis look like Gulf Arabs from Dubai. The darkest skin Pakistanis look like Slum Dog Millionaire.
This is why even people with a broader definition of White do not generally include Pakistanis in their definition of White, let alone people with a stricter narrow definition of White.
回复：@ JohnnyWalker123
那是对的吗？
Pakis and whites have similar arrest rates.
Also, commenter “Simon in London” said this:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/trying-to-gentrify-a-jihadi-neighborhood-the-molenbeek-case-study/#comment-1237370
Part of social street dominance is beating up strangers to mark your territory. That’s often been associated with blacks, but I’m not sure if that’s associated with the South Asian Muslims.
South Asians, by the way, were underrepresented during the 2011 British riots.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-rioting/
有人告诉我，大多数早期的牧师都已婚，但这也许是错误的信息。
Actually, many ranks of bishops can be widowed, though not divorced. If I understood correctly, Jonathan Mason's original comment inferred that one of the "perks" of early Christianity was that the very male-populated and celibate environment attracted a lot of homosexual men (perhaps free from the pressure to marry and produce children?). That's what I think doesn't seem likely, given that Eastern Orthodox priests can be married. And you'll actually find that the majority do get married, and there is a common tradition of many generations of priests in a family, from father to son(s). Yes, there are various strict marital rules and limitations, but the ability to be recognized as a sexual being (without the atonement for that inherent sin, as in the Catholic church) and work for the church has been present since the earliest forms of Christianity.
回复：@Tracy
有些人已经结婚了（例如圣彼得），但他们在献祭之前应该保持性节制。由于这种期望，并且由于每天都有献祭，独身很快就成为常态。
Not sure where you’re getting the idea that the Church sees clergy and religious as “not sexual beings,” but that’s not the case. Having sex is the issue, not being a human being, all of whom being sexual. IOW, there is no “sin” — inherent or otherwise — to “atone for” in being a sexual being.
I didn't say the Catholic church doesn't view all people as sexual beings, but (with the exception of some converts) it mandates celibacy from its clergy, and it views any sexual act that's not between two spouses not just as wrong, but as inherently evil and severely immoral. Its language and doctrines on sexual morality are far more harsh, laden with evil and shame, than in the Eastern Orthodox Church, and a critical exploration of that, in addition to the other institutional problems shared by most other Christian churches, would go a long way in understanding why it's been plagued by so many sexual abuse scandals.
回复：@Percy Gryce
Look at pictures of Notis Sfakianakis and Imran Khan. Do they look like people from different races? I don't think so. Because of Alexander the Great I imagine many Pakistanis have some Greek blood.
伊姆兰·汗被英国女性视为非常有魅力的男人。并非只有下层阶级的女性才会被所谓的地中海风格所吸引。众所周知，蒙巴顿勋爵担任印度总督时，他的妻子与巴基斯坦领导人真纳有染。
Another factor which makes Pakistani men attractive to some British women is the fact that they will have a good car. That car will probably not be insured and the driver will probably not have passed his driving test legally but that will just make the driver more exiting and interesting in the woman's eyes. These young Pakistani men drive very fast and dangerously. Most of the time you read in the UK of some kid or old person being knocked down by a car going too fast the driver will be a young Muslim male.
Someone above mentioned that Muslims did not work in the steel mills. Well, I can tell you that I worked for British Steel and we already had special Muslim toilets - i.e. without seats - in 1971. At the time we laughed at them, but one of my co-workers said that it won't be long before all toilets will be like that. At work the Muslims used to put in the hours but the ones I knew didn't put in much effort.
Replies: @5371, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous
If you really and truly can’t distinguish a Greek from a Pakistani, then I have nothing more to say on this matter.
(By that I just mean the "black" average in the UK is in a process of transition. I don't know where it currently is.)
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(Charlene)An addendum to that is the police were ignoring the grooming same as everywhere else. The only reason the grooming / murder connection came about was because MI5 had the guys involved under surveillance as possible jihadist suspects and they joked about the murder / dismemberment on tape.
The police had been pretending it was a missing person case but the info leaked and they had to turn it into a murder investigation even though all they had was the tape which wasn't enough on its own in the context of joking.
There is probably more evidence out there but locked inside a community that won't talk.
回复：@ 5371
好点子。
回复：@ReaderfromGreece
我并不是说天主教会不认为所有人都有性行为，但是（除了一些皈依者之外）它要求神职人员保持独身，并且它认为任何非两个配偶之间的性行为都是错误的，但本质上是邪恶的和严重不道德的。它关于性道德的语言和教义比东正教更加严厉，充满邪恶和耻辱，除了大多数其他基督教会所共有的其他制度问题之外，对其进行批判性探索将需要很长时间。了解为什么它受到这么多性虐待丑闻的困扰。
Actually I know many Indians (and a Bangladeshi) married to nice white husbands/wives. Many men and women have different expectations. In many cases the usual desire seems to be, for many men, a more 'feminine' (i.e. less aggressive) domestic oriented person. Many STEM men/women also marry fellow STEM women/men, so this becomes assortative. STEM white women are few; so white STEM men select Asian STEM women. For many white women, the desire is stability (i.e. long term marriage, monogamy) and reliable earning power. In case of the white woman who married the Bangladeshi (the guy is a chip designer), the woman unhesitatingly mentioned that most white men she knows are dumb (my guess is she may be from Bakersfield - Fresno area - interior CA ). So, it is not always beauty!
By the way, they have a really smart and good looking daughter, Arianna Afsar, who is a beauty queen and actress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Afsar
See pic. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3334138/
回复：@PV van der Byl
感谢那些链接。
Arianna is a real winner!
I didn't say the Catholic church doesn't view all people as sexual beings, but (with the exception of some converts) it mandates celibacy from its clergy, and it views any sexual act that's not between two spouses not just as wrong, but as inherently evil and severely immoral. Its language and doctrines on sexual morality are far more harsh, laden with evil and shame, than in the Eastern Orthodox Church, and a critical exploration of that, in addition to the other institutional problems shared by most other Christian churches, would go a long way in understanding why it's been plagued by so many sexual abuse scandals.
回复：@Percy Gryce
No, that’s not correct either. The Catholic Church in its Eastern churches has a married clergy, both deacons and priests, and in the Western churches married men have been ordained to the diaconate for the last 40 years. There are over 13,000 married Catholic deacons in the United States alone.
我发布的视频中没有一个巴基斯坦人看起来像伊姆兰·汗那样是白人。说伊姆兰·汗是巴基斯坦人的代表，就像说姚明代表典型的中国人一样准确。
你可能就在这里。当那些经过性打扮的女孩被问及为什么要和美容师一起去时，她们经常提到与汽车相关的兴奋。无论如何，汗的祖先来自阿富汗，所以他甚至不是巴基斯坦人。他是普什图人。几乎所有英属巴基斯坦人都是卡什米尔人或旁遮普人，而不是帕坦人。
许多巴基斯坦人都有浅橄榄色皮肤，但具有印度特征。不是地中海特征。
对了，视频快进到2分14秒。这些美容师中有哪位的容貌能让女孩觉得有吸引力吗？
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB6zMIrIx-g
回复：@Jefferson
“A lot of the Pakis have light olive skin, but Indian features. Not Meditteranean features.”
The lightest skin Pakistanis look like Gulf Arabs from Dubai. The darkest skin Pakistanis look like Slum Dog Millionaire.
This is why even people with a broader definition of White do not generally include Pakistanis in their definition of White, let alone people with a stricter narrow definition of White.
My mistake, ty.
The conclusion is the same though. The media started an anti-white lynching with Zimmerman and then couldn't back down when they realised that the guy only looking half-white was making white people think the media is driven by anti-white racism - which they are - so they're not making the same mistake with Holztclaw.
回复：@ben tillman
我赞同你。