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Here’s a new Open Thread for all of you. To minimize the load, please continue to limit your Tweets or place them under a MORE tag.

For those interested, here’s my lengthy new review article on the origins of Israel and the roots of the conflict with the Palestinians:

I’d also strongly recommend this important piece of investigative journalism by Max Blumenthal:

And this excellent discussion between Jeffrey Sachs and Rashid Khalidi on the history of the Israel/Palestine conflict:

 
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  1. Bitcoin has taken a tumble.

    Cryptocurrencies and blockchains are nothing but gambling vehicles. Any intelligent country would ban them.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @anyone with a brain

    I wonder if Anatoly Karlin's prediction of hundreds of thousands of dollars per Ethereum by the 2030s will actually come to pass. He said that it's either that or bust. He also predicted the same for Urbit stars. Specifically, with each Urbit star being worth either hundreds of thousands of dollars by the 2030s or being worth absolutely nothing by that point in time.

    BitChute's stock could get a huge boost over time if it will become the official streaming channel of the network state Bitopia, which of course will be powered by Bitcoin.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @anyone with a brain

    It took a much bigger tumble from 60k dollars two years ago, this time last year it was $16k. 40k now, so it would have been a nice Christmas present last year, and a bad one the year before.

    ETH has halved in dollar terms since Christmas 2021 as well.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LondonBob

  2. https://beff.substack.com/p/notes-on-eacc-principles-and-tenets
    Notes on e/acc principles and tenets

    [MORE]

    I believe the guy on the right is modafinil and the one on the left is lysergic acid diethylamide microdose mode. Those guys on paper are worth more than two Ron Unzes. Also they aren’t talking about Palestine, Israel, Ukraine, or Russia. : )

    • Thanks: LatW
    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    modafinil
     
    Is it ok to take modafinil if one doesn't have a medical diagnosis for it? As in, is it more or less dangerous / risky than, let's say, a Class B stimulant?

    microdose mode
     
    I wonder how that is determined, namely, what makes it micro and how do they know it is enough.

    The one on the left looks like he's on some high quality stimulant (the eyes, lol, and touching his nose) or maybe nootropics, and the one on the right is mellow and looks a bit buzzed (the eyes, lol). At least it's good that he understands that "it's not ok to sell to North Korea". Responsible citizen.

    I like his ideology ("Defending the West").

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It's the founder of Oculus VR. He's only 31.

    Do you see how he got Straussian at 17:50... almost uttered "globohomo" lol.

    , @Derer
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I wasted only 15 minutes. The US military technology, the guy with the soiled chin talking about, failed against medieval Taliban for 20! years and is failing in Ukraine. These immature dudes try to make money by selling video but who will buy it.

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Have you followed?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA8Xq2sXQAAqWEd.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  3. @Emil Nikola Richard
    https://beff.substack.com/p/notes-on-eacc-principles-and-tenets
    Notes on e/acc principles and tenets

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kONhhKQi0pU

    I believe the guy on the right is modafinil and the one on the left is lysergic acid diethylamide microdose mode. Those guys on paper are worth more than two Ron Unzes. Also they aren't talking about Palestine, Israel, Ukraine, or Russia. : )

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @Derer, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    modafinil

    Is it ok to take modafinil if one doesn’t have a medical diagnosis for it? As in, is it more or less dangerous / risky than, let’s say, a Class B stimulant?

    microdose mode

    I wonder how that is determined, namely, what makes it micro and how do they know it is enough.

    The one on the left looks like he’s on some high quality stimulant (the eyes, lol, and touching his nose) or maybe nootropics, and the one on the right is mellow and looks a bit buzzed (the eyes, lol). At least it’s good that he understands that “it’s not ok to sell to North Korea”. Responsible citizen.

    I like his ideology (“Defending the West”).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Huberman's lecture on stimulants is informative. Maybe go there. I remember modafinil is an expensive prescription drug. Also patients have very different effects from amphetamines. One ADHD patient may respond to 50 mg a day and a different patient with same age, sex, height, and weight may get no noticeable effect from 500 mg a day. I have previously heard him mention offhand that 2/3 Stanford students are on modafinil or adderall or ritalin but this tidbit is not in that presentation. All you have to do to get a prescription is tell an acceptable story to a physician. Maybe not any physician. But a large fraction of them.


    I wonder how that is determined, namely, what makes it micro and how do they know it is enough.
     
    If you want to trip the dose is (from users' experience) 250-500 micrograms. If you want to microdose the number is 10-25 as I recall. Trip dosage is a reliable number. Erowid has the best data set. Self experimentation with these molecules is a lot more fun if you are 25 years old or younger.

    The occulus machine gives users nausea. It has no practical application I have ever heard about but it was successful at attracting stupid investors. I seem to remember facebook buying his company for hundreds millions dollars.

    Making machines for killing people destroys souls in those people who possess one.

    Replies: @LatW

  4. @Emil Nikola Richard
    https://beff.substack.com/p/notes-on-eacc-principles-and-tenets
    Notes on e/acc principles and tenets

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kONhhKQi0pU

    I believe the guy on the right is modafinil and the one on the left is lysergic acid diethylamide microdose mode. Those guys on paper are worth more than two Ron Unzes. Also they aren't talking about Palestine, Israel, Ukraine, or Russia. : )

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @Derer, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    It’s the founder of Oculus VR. He’s only 31.

    Do you see how he got Straussian at 17:50… almost uttered “globohomo” lol.

  5. It is important to grasp Trump’s popularity with swing voters: (1)

    Poll: Donald Trump Leads Joe Biden Among Independents

    The survey provided a demographic breakdown, which showed Trump boasting an advantage among independent voters. He leads Biden by nine points there — 37 percent to 28 percent.

    When asked who they believe will be the winner of a presidential election between Biden and Trump, regardless of their personal preference, 44 percent, overall, said Trump, compared to 35 percent who said Biden. Independents are also more confident that Trump would win, 44 percent to Biden’s 25 percent.

    It is hard to predict who Trump will choose as his VP. There is no sign that Tucker Carlson wants the job. That flash story reads more as a way to infuriate the Leftoids into over reach.

    There was some thought that the GOP debates would yield a name. However, the only person who did well is Vivek, and he does not have enough of a track record. Fake Trump supporters will push warmongering RINOs like DeSantis or Nikki Haley.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/11/poll-donald-trump-leads-joe-biden-independents/

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    There was some thought that the GOP debates would yield a name. However, the only person who did well is Vivek, and he does not have enough of a track record. Fake Trump supporters will push warmongering RINOs like DeSantis or Nikki Haley.

     

    Elise Stefanik would be pretty good, no?

    https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/l/85/2021/05/rep1.jpeg

    https://i.insider.com/628277779147a30018b48d39?width=1136&format=jpeg

    "She's sophisticated. She's got class. Dangerous curves. And a whole lot of ass."

    From this song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujSA_Lv1cCY

    Replies: @Beckow

  6. Answers to questions you never thought to ask. — Can you build an absurdly large sword based on carbon fiber?

    PEACE 😇

  7. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    modafinil
     
    Is it ok to take modafinil if one doesn't have a medical diagnosis for it? As in, is it more or less dangerous / risky than, let's say, a Class B stimulant?

    microdose mode
     
    I wonder how that is determined, namely, what makes it micro and how do they know it is enough.

    The one on the left looks like he's on some high quality stimulant (the eyes, lol, and touching his nose) or maybe nootropics, and the one on the right is mellow and looks a bit buzzed (the eyes, lol). At least it's good that he understands that "it's not ok to sell to North Korea". Responsible citizen.

    I like his ideology ("Defending the West").

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Huberman’s lecture on stimulants is informative. Maybe go there. I remember modafinil is an expensive prescription drug. Also patients have very different effects from amphetamines. One ADHD patient may respond to 50 mg a day and a different patient with same age, sex, height, and weight may get no noticeable effect from 500 mg a day. I have previously heard him mention offhand that 2/3 Stanford students are on modafinil or adderall or ritalin but this tidbit is not in that presentation. All you have to do to get a prescription is tell an acceptable story to a physician. Maybe not any physician. But a large fraction of them.

    I wonder how that is determined, namely, what makes it micro and how do they know it is enough.

    If you want to trip the dose is (from users’ experience) 250-500 micrograms. If you want to microdose the number is 10-25 as I recall. Trip dosage is a reliable number. Erowid has the best data set. Self experimentation with these molecules is a lot more fun if you are 25 years old or younger.

    The occulus machine gives users nausea. It has no practical application I have ever heard about but it was successful at attracting stupid investors. I seem to remember facebook buying his company for hundreds millions dollars.

    Making machines for killing people destroys souls in those people who possess one.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Thanks for the recommendation.


    I have previously heard him mention offhand that 2/3 Stanford students are on modafinil or adderall or ritalin but this tidbit is not in that presentation. All you have to do to get a prescription is tell an acceptable story to a physician. Maybe not any physician. But a large fraction of them.
     
    That's pretty easy then. I don't think it's any physician, but probably many. Adderall seems common even outside of Stanford. I wonder if it's the same kind of amphetamine that's in the so called "speed" (how the heck do they go to sleep even, they must take it early in the morning).

    The occulus machine gives users nausea.
     
    Yes, I've heard this is a common complaint and that there's an effort to build a better VR (haven't used it so can't judge).

    I seem to remember facebook buying his company for hundreds millions dollars.
     
    Yes, it's part of Facebook / Meta now. It must have been bought during the tech bubble, so it's interesting whether it paid off for Meta. His current company is also getting insane funding, with a valuation of almost $10B. I thought the time of crazy valuations was over since a couple of years ago. Spotify lost most of its valuation (it was truly insane).

    Making machines for killing people destroys souls in those people who possess one.
     
    It might be ok if it's for self defense, although it doesn't really matter on the metaphysical level.

    What do you think about the end of this interview where he says he wants to sell his stuff to China and North Korea in the sense that he wants them to become like Japan and Germany? Isn't that super ambitious? But, you see, he's thinking in those terms. And that he'd be more proud of selling to (a defeated) Germany than to a (defeated) Russia. Wow.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  8. A counter to Washington Week with The Atlantic and Fareed Zakaria GPS:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/12122023-ukraines-future-oped/

  9. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Huberman's lecture on stimulants is informative. Maybe go there. I remember modafinil is an expensive prescription drug. Also patients have very different effects from amphetamines. One ADHD patient may respond to 50 mg a day and a different patient with same age, sex, height, and weight may get no noticeable effect from 500 mg a day. I have previously heard him mention offhand that 2/3 Stanford students are on modafinil or adderall or ritalin but this tidbit is not in that presentation. All you have to do to get a prescription is tell an acceptable story to a physician. Maybe not any physician. But a large fraction of them.


    I wonder how that is determined, namely, what makes it micro and how do they know it is enough.
     
    If you want to trip the dose is (from users' experience) 250-500 micrograms. If you want to microdose the number is 10-25 as I recall. Trip dosage is a reliable number. Erowid has the best data set. Self experimentation with these molecules is a lot more fun if you are 25 years old or younger.

    The occulus machine gives users nausea. It has no practical application I have ever heard about but it was successful at attracting stupid investors. I seem to remember facebook buying his company for hundreds millions dollars.

    Making machines for killing people destroys souls in those people who possess one.

    Replies: @LatW

    Thanks for the recommendation.

    I have previously heard him mention offhand that 2/3 Stanford students are on modafinil or adderall or ritalin but this tidbit is not in that presentation. All you have to do to get a prescription is tell an acceptable story to a physician. Maybe not any physician. But a large fraction of them.

    That’s pretty easy then. I don’t think it’s any physician, but probably many. Adderall seems common even outside of Stanford. I wonder if it’s the same kind of amphetamine that’s in the so called “speed” (how the heck do they go to sleep even, they must take it early in the morning).

    The occulus machine gives users nausea.

    Yes, I’ve heard this is a common complaint and that there’s an effort to build a better VR (haven’t used it so can’t judge).

    I seem to remember facebook buying his company for hundreds millions dollars.

    Yes, it’s part of Facebook / Meta now. It must have been bought during the tech bubble, so it’s interesting whether it paid off for Meta. His current company is also getting insane funding, with a valuation of almost $10B. I thought the time of crazy valuations was over since a couple of years ago. Spotify lost most of its valuation (it was truly insane).

    Making machines for killing people destroys souls in those people who possess one.

    It might be ok if it’s for self defense, although it doesn’t really matter on the metaphysical level.

    What do you think about the end of this interview where he says he wants to sell his stuff to China and North Korea in the sense that he wants them to become like Japan and Germany? Isn’t that super ambitious? But, you see, he’s thinking in those terms. And that he’d be more proud of selling to (a defeated) Germany than to a (defeated) Russia. Wow.

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    Would you enjoy hanging out with the murderers of your family members?
     
    I thought you were on good terms with your Jewish neighbours?

    They are certainly not an easy people to manage, one really needs to learn to handle them when living together.
     
  10. @A123
    It is important to grasp Trump's popularity with swing voters: (1)

    Poll: Donald Trump Leads Joe Biden Among Independents

     

    The survey provided a demographic breakdown, which showed Trump boasting an advantage among independent voters. He leads Biden by nine points there — 37 percent to 28 percent.
    ...
    When asked who they believe will be the winner of a presidential election between Biden and Trump, regardless of their personal preference, 44 percent, overall, said Trump, compared to 35 percent who said Biden. Independents are also more confident that Trump would win, 44 percent to Biden’s 25 percent.
     
    It is hard to predict who Trump will choose as his VP. There is no sign that Tucker Carlson wants the job. That flash story reads more as a way to infuriate the Leftoids into over reach.

    There was some thought that the GOP debates would yield a name. However, the only person who did well is Vivek, and he does not have enough of a track record. Fake Trump supporters will push warmongering RINOs like DeSantis or Nikki Haley.

    PEACE 😇
    ___________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/11/poll-donald-trump-leads-joe-biden-independents/

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    There was some thought that the GOP debates would yield a name. However, the only person who did well is Vivek, and he does not have enough of a track record. Fake Trump supporters will push warmongering RINOs like DeSantis or Nikki Haley.

    Elise Stefanik would be pretty good, no?

    https://i.insider.com/628277779147a30018b48d39?width=1136&format=jpeg

    “She’s sophisticated. She’s got class. Dangerous curves. And a whole lot of ass.”

    From this song:

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    A low-class descendant of one of my people and a total fake. She is reading scripts like an obedient squaw who wants to get that extra bowl off porridge.

    Those curves are going to get a lot worse, I would pass...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  11. @anyone with a brain
    Bitcoin has taken a tumble.

    Cryptocurrencies and blockchains are nothing but gambling vehicles. Any intelligent country would ban them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @YetAnotherAnon

    I wonder if Anatoly Karlin’s prediction of hundreds of thousands of dollars per Ethereum by the 2030s will actually come to pass. He said that it’s either that or bust. He also predicted the same for Urbit stars. Specifically, with each Urbit star being worth either hundreds of thousands of dollars by the 2030s or being worth absolutely nothing by that point in time.

    BitChute’s stock could get a huge boost over time if it will become the official streaming channel of the network state Bitopia, which of course will be powered by Bitcoin.

  12. An article about life in occupied Melitopol, in the Glorious Russian Reich:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/11/europe/ukraine-life-under-russian-occupation-melitopol-intl-cmd/index.html

    Reminds me a bit of life in the Polish Corridor under Nazi German rule, for those who were both ethnic Poles and pre-1918 German citizens but politically loyal to Poland.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. XYZ

    A private reply regarding -

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/12122023-ukraines-future-oped/

    "Spot on. The situation is even more dire for Ukraine's criminal leadership, and even more tragic for the people for whom they have no regard.

    In addition, there are many Ukrainian troops surrendering in spite of the fact that they have neo-Nazi Banderites and foreign mercenaries planted in each unit to shoot anyone that wants to surrender. I've seen enough videos of Ukrainian soldiers who survived complaining about this.

    Many in Ukraine are no longer watching the state TV - as you know, all but regime-run stations have been banned - and they get their news from other sources, like Telegram, etc. Ukrainians (normal ones) like Uri Podolyaka and Michael Onufrienko have great programs, and broadcast mostly from Crimea.

    Alexander Mercouris is another great resource - a Greek in Britain - with Russian friends who broadcasts in English...

    The truth is coming out."

    , @Gerard1234
    @Mr. XYZ


    Reminds me a bit of life in the Polish Corridor under Nazi German rule, for those who were both ethnic Poles and pre-1918 German citizens but politically loyal to Poland.
     
    Just a reminder (shithead) that the Poles fought far more enthusiastically and intensively FOR Nazi Germany from 1939-45, than they did in "resisting" for 2 weeks in September 1939. Huge numbers of Poles fought for Nazi Germany. No real surprise as there was plenty of good will from 1933-39 in addition to the Poles loser/inferiority complex .......as the Nazi government ministers favourite holiday destination was Poland and, of course, Poland was Hitlers most loyal ally from 1933-39

    Replies: @ShortOnTime

  13. @Mr. XYZ
    An article about life in occupied Melitopol, in the Glorious Russian Reich:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/11/europe/ukraine-life-under-russian-occupation-melitopol-intl-cmd/index.html

    Reminds me a bit of life in the Polish Corridor under Nazi German rule, for those who were both ethnic Poles and pre-1918 German citizens but politically loyal to Poland.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Gerard1234

    A private reply regarding –

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/12122023-ukraines-future-oped/

    “Spot on. The situation is even more dire for Ukraine’s criminal leadership, and even more tragic for the people for whom they have no regard.

    In addition, there are many Ukrainian troops surrendering in spite of the fact that they have neo-Nazi Banderites and foreign mercenaries planted in each unit to shoot anyone that wants to surrender. I’ve seen enough videos of Ukrainian soldiers who survived complaining about this.

    Many in Ukraine are no longer watching the state TV – as you know, all but regime-run stations have been banned – and they get their news from other sources, like Telegram, etc. Ukrainians (normal ones) like Uri Podolyaka and Michael Onufrienko have great programs, and broadcast mostly from Crimea.

    Alexander Mercouris is another great resource – a Greek in Britain – with Russian friends who broadcasts in English…

    The truth is coming out.”

  14. I’ve got an alternate history question for AP: In the event that WWI does not break out in 1914 (Franz Ferdinand lives), would it be possible for Russia to attack the Ottoman Empire again sometime down the line? And, if so, could Germany and Austria-Hungary arm the Ottomans enough and build up the Ottoman military enough up to the point that the Ottoman military can do to Russia what Ukraine did to Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War in real life? As in, ensure that Russia walks away with nothing other than some modest gains, but with the core of the Ottoman Empire remaining intact and with the Ottoman Empire itself remaining very strong.

    (Note: During WWI in real life, the Ottoman Empire was not that strong. But if the Ottoman Empire will aggressively build up its military with the help of the Germanic powers over the next 10-15 years or more, then it could be in a much better position in a future hypothetical war against Russia. Russia would have also aggressively trounced Ukraine in 2014 in real life, after all. But by 2022, it couldn’t even conquer Kharkiv or Odessa or Mykolayiv or hold onto Kherson.)

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    Maybe one could argue that the Russian Empire would be more willing to spend huge amounts of money on a real war than Putin's Russia would be, and that the coalition opposing it would not be quite as formidable as NATO would be, though still, it's worth noting that Britain can side with Germany and Austria-Hungary in regards to helping the Ottoman Empire in this scenario if, without WWI breaking out by then, it will come to re-perceive Russia as a huge threat. Britain plus Germany plus Austria-Hungary would have quite a lot of economic power combined. Though the US won't be aiding them. And France could possibly be aiding its ally Russia, though I suppose that France could also be doing what China is doing in the Russo-Ukrainian War in real life and limit its aid to Russia to relatively mundane things.

    , @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    I’ve got an alternate history question for AP: In the event that WWI does not break out in 1914 (Franz Ferdinand lives), would it be possible for Russia to attack the Ottoman Empire again sometime down the line
     
    I think there’s something to be said for historical records, and Russia had a good record of beating the Ottomans. Since 1768 it beat them in every war other than the Crimean War in which the Ottomans themselves were beaten by the Russians, but the Russians were defeated by the Ottomans’ British and French allies. So it would likely have won in another war with them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  15. @Mr. XYZ
    I've got an alternate history question for AP: In the event that WWI does not break out in 1914 (Franz Ferdinand lives), would it be possible for Russia to attack the Ottoman Empire again sometime down the line? And, if so, could Germany and Austria-Hungary arm the Ottomans enough and build up the Ottoman military enough up to the point that the Ottoman military can do to Russia what Ukraine did to Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War in real life? As in, ensure that Russia walks away with nothing other than some modest gains, but with the core of the Ottoman Empire remaining intact and with the Ottoman Empire itself remaining very strong.

    (Note: During WWI in real life, the Ottoman Empire was not that strong. But if the Ottoman Empire will aggressively build up its military with the help of the Germanic powers over the next 10-15 years or more, then it could be in a much better position in a future hypothetical war against Russia. Russia would have also aggressively trounced Ukraine in 2014 in real life, after all. But by 2022, it couldn't even conquer Kharkiv or Odessa or Mykolayiv or hold onto Kherson.)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    Maybe one could argue that the Russian Empire would be more willing to spend huge amounts of money on a real war than Putin’s Russia would be, and that the coalition opposing it would not be quite as formidable as NATO would be, though still, it’s worth noting that Britain can side with Germany and Austria-Hungary in regards to helping the Ottoman Empire in this scenario if, without WWI breaking out by then, it will come to re-perceive Russia as a huge threat. Britain plus Germany plus Austria-Hungary would have quite a lot of economic power combined. Though the US won’t be aiding them. And France could possibly be aiding its ally Russia, though I suppose that France could also be doing what China is doing in the Russo-Ukrainian War in real life and limit its aid to Russia to relatively mundane things.

  16. Why did it take so long for wine to displace beer in Egypt? (4th century AD)

    And how do Egyptians track on genetic alcohol tolerance? Same as Greeks?

  17. @Emil Nikola Richard
    https://beff.substack.com/p/notes-on-eacc-principles-and-tenets
    Notes on e/acc principles and tenets

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kONhhKQi0pU

    I believe the guy on the right is modafinil and the one on the left is lysergic acid diethylamide microdose mode. Those guys on paper are worth more than two Ron Unzes. Also they aren't talking about Palestine, Israel, Ukraine, or Russia. : )

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @Derer, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I wasted only 15 minutes. The US military technology, the guy with the soiled chin talking about, failed against medieval Taliban for 20! years and is failing in Ukraine. These immature dudes try to make money by selling video but who will buy it.

  18. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Thanks for the recommendation.


    I have previously heard him mention offhand that 2/3 Stanford students are on modafinil or adderall or ritalin but this tidbit is not in that presentation. All you have to do to get a prescription is tell an acceptable story to a physician. Maybe not any physician. But a large fraction of them.
     
    That's pretty easy then. I don't think it's any physician, but probably many. Adderall seems common even outside of Stanford. I wonder if it's the same kind of amphetamine that's in the so called "speed" (how the heck do they go to sleep even, they must take it early in the morning).

    The occulus machine gives users nausea.
     
    Yes, I've heard this is a common complaint and that there's an effort to build a better VR (haven't used it so can't judge).

    I seem to remember facebook buying his company for hundreds millions dollars.
     
    Yes, it's part of Facebook / Meta now. It must have been bought during the tech bubble, so it's interesting whether it paid off for Meta. His current company is also getting insane funding, with a valuation of almost $10B. I thought the time of crazy valuations was over since a couple of years ago. Spotify lost most of its valuation (it was truly insane).

    Making machines for killing people destroys souls in those people who possess one.
     
    It might be ok if it's for self defense, although it doesn't really matter on the metaphysical level.

    What do you think about the end of this interview where he says he wants to sell his stuff to China and North Korea in the sense that he wants them to become like Japan and Germany? Isn't that super ambitious? But, you see, he's thinking in those terms. And that he'd be more proud of selling to (a defeated) Germany than to a (defeated) Russia. Wow.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Would you enjoy hanging out with the murderers of your family members?

    I thought you were on good terms with your Jewish neighbours?

    They are certainly not an easy people to manage, one really needs to learn to handle them when living together.

  19. @Emil Nikola Richard
    https://beff.substack.com/p/notes-on-eacc-principles-and-tenets
    Notes on e/acc principles and tenets

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kONhhKQi0pU

    I believe the guy on the right is modafinil and the one on the left is lysergic acid diethylamide microdose mode. Those guys on paper are worth more than two Ron Unzes. Also they aren't talking about Palestine, Israel, Ukraine, or Russia. : )

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @Derer, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Have you followed?

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    No. Is there a big commotion around e/acc in reddit Baltic sea?

    My main interest in the e/acc is I have always been interested in Nick Land's writing. My main interest in the video was rich guys on drugs which is always funny.

  20. The Baltic States acting as sock puppets in Europe against China is probably the most pathetic display of political stupidity and flunkeyism I have ever seen. It’s not just smarter and more capable people would play off the Chinese against the Americans to extract concessions for their own benefit and vice versa.

    Want a China bad statement? We could use a new football stadium. What’s really rather sad is the reality that their countries are facing eminent extinction within a single generation. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, etc will cease to exist by mid century as the young and capable decamp for Germany/“The North East”(Costco is truly genius and very affordable annual membership is only $50, you quickly make that back in savings. I love those large frozen Alaskan salmon and cod packets) in droves and all that will be left is a retirement home masquerading as a country.

    Spending your remaining political time calling Russia names is bad enough, but spending it calling China, a country you have zero history or interaction with at the behest of your superiors, while your country disappears year by year in front of your very eyes due to the neoliberal economic and political system you seek to uphold is something else.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Why are you so angry? Did something new happen (besides the old Taiwan economic representation incident)? I haven't noticed much China hate recently.


    more capable people would play off the Chinese against the Americans to extract concessions for their own benefit and vice versa.
     
    This kind of an approach may make some sense, but it is not very dignifying. Why not just try to have good relations with both?
    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    China, a country you have zero history or interaction
     
    Not true, Chinese and Latvians fought together for the Reds (not a flattering depiction here though)

    https://i.postimg.cc/7YNg709Q/Sukuri-nshotto-1.png

    https://www.rbth.com/history/333135-how-chinese-soldiers-helped-bolsheviks

    Both Chinese and Japanese also supported the Whites and Czech Legion

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Kaartje_amerikanen_in_Rusland-1-.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  21. Asiatics > Unhinged Bear-Slayer anti-East bullshit.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    South Korea is one of the few deposits for this type of ammo in the world, and, yes, they do a good job supplying.

    Is China giving anything to Russia? Ukrainian soldiers said they saw Asian characters on some items they found on the Russian troops (wasn't clear if those were Korean (possibly from N.Korea) or Chinese).


    Asiatics > Unhinged Bear-Slayer anti-East bullshit.
     
    To be fully accurate though, the Bear-Slayer epic is set during the Northern Crusades and the foe is from the West. The final struggle takes place between the Bear-Slayer and a German crusading knight, called the Black Knight. One has to understand the late 19th century context (when the epic poem was written).

    In the end, they fight on a cliff and both fall down into the raging river. The Bear-Slayer's wife watches from the castle and, as he perishes, she takes her life. The vision of their struggle still appears even in the later eras...

    Time from time, boatmen as they venture along the Daugava river,
    In the middle of the night, behold two men, fighting on a steep cliff.
    In the meanwhile, in the castle ruins, a small light is seen flickering.

    The two men, while wrestling, approach the edge of the cliff,
    When, finally, they fall into the depths of the river.
    A lamenting cry reverberates inside the castle, the little light burns out.

    It is the Bear-Slayer who is fighting there, still with the overseas foe.
    Laimdota watches from the castle, waiting, who will triumph.
    But still, the day will come, when he will push his foe down, alone.
    And drown him in the maelstrom.

    Then new times will dawn for the people - then their freedom will be born.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  22. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    Asiatics > Unhinged Bear-Slayer anti-East bullshit.

    https://twitter.com/mason_8718/status/1732748640907874447

    Replies: @LatW

    South Korea is one of the few deposits for this type of ammo in the world, and, yes, they do a good job supplying.

    [MORE]

    Is China giving anything to Russia? Ukrainian soldiers said they saw Asian characters on some items they found on the Russian troops (wasn’t clear if those were Korean (possibly from N.Korea) or Chinese).

    Asiatics > Unhinged Bear-Slayer anti-East bullshit.

    To be fully accurate though, the Bear-Slayer epic is set during the Northern Crusades and the foe is from the West. The final struggle takes place between the Bear-Slayer and a German crusading knight, called the Black Knight. One has to understand the late 19th century context (when the epic poem was written).

    In the end, they fight on a cliff and both fall down into the raging river. The Bear-Slayer’s wife watches from the castle and, as he perishes, she takes her life. The vision of their struggle still appears even in the later eras…

    Time from time, boatmen as they venture along the Daugava river,
    In the middle of the night, behold two men, fighting on a steep cliff.
    In the meanwhile, in the castle ruins, a small light is seen flickering.

    The two men, while wrestling, approach the edge of the cliff,
    When, finally, they fall into the depths of the river.
    A lamenting cry reverberates inside the castle, the little light burns out.

    It is the Bear-Slayer who is fighting there, still with the overseas foe.
    Laimdota watches from the castle, waiting, who will triumph.
    But still, the day will come, when he will push his foe down, alone.
    And drown him in the maelstrom.

    Then new times will dawn for the people – then their freedom will be born.

    • Thanks: S, Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    We truly live in a post-historical era. An objective lesson of the first and second world wars were that the petit nationalisms of Eastern Europe were dangerous volatile things capable of generating crisis and violence yet of marginal strategic utility and that the optimal policy was to avoid strategic entanglements of any kind for the major Western powers.

    This has been completely abandoned in favor of kicking France and Germany out of Europe and making Poland and Latvia the new pillars of sound European decision making. The Eastern expansion of the EU and Nato will go down historically as to what doomed the grand vision of a peaceful and United Europe.

    The old saying about Konraad Adenauer muttering about Asiatics every time his train crossed east past the Elbe carried with it more than a little truth and the observation of the conservative reactionaries about the East were more prescient than the Liberal eurocrats who put out policy white papers about how Kosovo is the most law abiding nation in the Balkans.


    they need to post something negative about our people
     

    Some Northern Euro women sometimes go south for that, so they can slut it up in a foreign place where nobody knows them. They would not marry you or even date you seriously
     


    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBkf2egfZ6C2QyQL68p6JyAAJwOFNfXld55g&usqp.jpg

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

  23. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    The Baltic States acting as sock puppets in Europe against China is probably the most pathetic display of political stupidity and flunkeyism I have ever seen. It's not just smarter and more capable people would play off the Chinese against the Americans to extract concessions for their own benefit and vice versa.

    Want a China bad statement? We could use a new football stadium. What's really rather sad is the reality that their countries are facing eminent extinction within a single generation. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, etc will cease to exist by mid century as the young and capable decamp for Germany/“The North East"(Costco is truly genius and very affordable annual membership is only $50, you quickly make that back in savings. I love those large frozen Alaskan salmon and cod packets) in droves and all that will be left is a retirement home masquerading as a country.

    Spending your remaining political time calling Russia names is bad enough, but spending it calling China, a country you have zero history or interaction with at the behest of your superiors, while your country disappears year by year in front of your very eyes due to the neoliberal economic and political system you seek to uphold is something else.

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    [MORE]

    Why are you so angry? Did something new happen (besides the old Taiwan economic representation incident)? I haven’t noticed much China hate recently.

    more capable people would play off the Chinese against the Americans to extract concessions for their own benefit and vice versa.

    This kind of an approach may make some sense, but it is not very dignifying. Why not just try to have good relations with both?

  24. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    South Korea is one of the few deposits for this type of ammo in the world, and, yes, they do a good job supplying.

    Is China giving anything to Russia? Ukrainian soldiers said they saw Asian characters on some items they found on the Russian troops (wasn't clear if those were Korean (possibly from N.Korea) or Chinese).


    Asiatics > Unhinged Bear-Slayer anti-East bullshit.
     
    To be fully accurate though, the Bear-Slayer epic is set during the Northern Crusades and the foe is from the West. The final struggle takes place between the Bear-Slayer and a German crusading knight, called the Black Knight. One has to understand the late 19th century context (when the epic poem was written).

    In the end, they fight on a cliff and both fall down into the raging river. The Bear-Slayer's wife watches from the castle and, as he perishes, she takes her life. The vision of their struggle still appears even in the later eras...

    Time from time, boatmen as they venture along the Daugava river,
    In the middle of the night, behold two men, fighting on a steep cliff.
    In the meanwhile, in the castle ruins, a small light is seen flickering.

    The two men, while wrestling, approach the edge of the cliff,
    When, finally, they fall into the depths of the river.
    A lamenting cry reverberates inside the castle, the little light burns out.

    It is the Bear-Slayer who is fighting there, still with the overseas foe.
    Laimdota watches from the castle, waiting, who will triumph.
    But still, the day will come, when he will push his foe down, alone.
    And drown him in the maelstrom.

    Then new times will dawn for the people - then their freedom will be born.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    We truly live in a post-historical era. An objective lesson of the first and second world wars were that the petit nationalisms of Eastern Europe were dangerous volatile things capable of generating crisis and violence yet of marginal strategic utility and that the optimal policy was to avoid strategic entanglements of any kind for the major Western powers.

    This has been completely abandoned in favor of kicking France and Germany out of Europe and making Poland and Latvia the new pillars of sound European decision making. The Eastern expansion of the EU and Nato will go down historically as to what doomed the grand vision of a peaceful and United Europe.

    The old saying about Konraad Adenauer muttering about Asiatics every time his train crossed east past the Elbe carried with it more than a little truth and the observation of the conservative reactionaries about the East were more prescient than the Liberal eurocrats who put out policy white papers about how Kosovo is the most law abiding nation in the Balkans.

    they need to post something negative about our people

    Some Northern Euro women sometimes go south for that, so they can slut it up in a foreign place where nobody knows them. They would not marry you or even date you seriously

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    petit nationalisms of Eastern Europe
     
    I wouldn't say that any EU country fully has this - not even Hungary. Most have a parliamentary system which includes leftist liberal parties that typically fight displays of ethnic nationalism. Poland and the Baltics have a little bit of nationalism, but they are still "washed" in liberalism at the end of the day.

    This has been completely abandoned in favor of kicking France and Germany out of Europe
     
    How have they been kicked out of Europe when they are the most powerful EU countries? Are you saying their governments have no agency?

    peaceful and United Europe
     
    Europe is not disunited, it just needs to become stronger.

    Some Northern Euro women sometimes go south for that, so they can slut it up in a foreign place where nobody knows them. They would not marry you or even date you seriously
     

    OMG, you completely misunderstood! I wasn't really talking about the racial aspect here. Isn't this true though - that some Northern Euro women occasionally do this? There is a type - the "Latin lover" that some women like (and, in fact, they may marry one of them). And some go for even darker. Listen, they're not going to marry someone in a culturally very different country that they had a short fling with. That was what was meant.

    When I mentioned "Asiatics" in the other thread that was actually prompted by another wrongful and redundant statement by Beckow. And there are Buryat soldiers in the Russian occupation forces. The Buryat are exploited and taken advantage of. (!!!)

    The Chechens, however, do have agency (although I would not deem them "Asiatics" or Asian, of course).

    This does not apply to most Asian people, omg. And I've had nothing but positive experience with Koreans, Japanese and Chinese. Hard working and smart. So I apologize if I came off as not friendly towards Asian people. I felt attacked by your comments and may have become defensive on some occasions.

    , @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    By the way, does anybody in either Korea feel any qualms about supplying weapons? After all that is meant to kill two closely related groups of Slavs. This is macabre.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  25. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    We truly live in a post-historical era. An objective lesson of the first and second world wars were that the petit nationalisms of Eastern Europe were dangerous volatile things capable of generating crisis and violence yet of marginal strategic utility and that the optimal policy was to avoid strategic entanglements of any kind for the major Western powers.

    This has been completely abandoned in favor of kicking France and Germany out of Europe and making Poland and Latvia the new pillars of sound European decision making. The Eastern expansion of the EU and Nato will go down historically as to what doomed the grand vision of a peaceful and United Europe.

    The old saying about Konraad Adenauer muttering about Asiatics every time his train crossed east past the Elbe carried with it more than a little truth and the observation of the conservative reactionaries about the East were more prescient than the Liberal eurocrats who put out policy white papers about how Kosovo is the most law abiding nation in the Balkans.


    they need to post something negative about our people
     

    Some Northern Euro women sometimes go south for that, so they can slut it up in a foreign place where nobody knows them. They would not marry you or even date you seriously
     


    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBkf2egfZ6C2QyQL68p6JyAAJwOFNfXld55g&usqp.jpg

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    petit nationalisms of Eastern Europe

    I wouldn’t say that any EU country fully has this – not even Hungary. Most have a parliamentary system which includes leftist liberal parties that typically fight displays of ethnic nationalism. Poland and the Baltics have a little bit of nationalism, but they are still “washed” in liberalism at the end of the day.

    [MORE]

    This has been completely abandoned in favor of kicking France and Germany out of Europe

    How have they been kicked out of Europe when they are the most powerful EU countries? Are you saying their governments have no agency?

    peaceful and United Europe

    Europe is not disunited, it just needs to become stronger.

    Some Northern Euro women sometimes go south for that, so they can slut it up in a foreign place where nobody knows them. They would not marry you or even date you seriously

    OMG, you completely misunderstood! I wasn’t really talking about the racial aspect here. Isn’t this true though – that some Northern Euro women occasionally do this? There is a type – the “Latin lover” that some women like (and, in fact, they may marry one of them). And some go for even darker. Listen, they’re not going to marry someone in a culturally very different country that they had a short fling with. That was what was meant.

    When I mentioned “Asiatics” in the other thread that was actually prompted by another wrongful and redundant statement by Beckow. And there are Buryat soldiers in the Russian occupation forces. The Buryat are exploited and taken advantage of. (!!!)

    The Chechens, however, do have agency (although I would not deem them “Asiatics” or Asian, of course).

    This does not apply to most Asian people, omg. And I’ve had nothing but positive experience with Koreans, Japanese and Chinese. Hard working and smart. So I apologize if I came off as not friendly towards Asian people. I felt attacked by your comments and may have become defensive on some occasions.

  26. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    We truly live in a post-historical era. An objective lesson of the first and second world wars were that the petit nationalisms of Eastern Europe were dangerous volatile things capable of generating crisis and violence yet of marginal strategic utility and that the optimal policy was to avoid strategic entanglements of any kind for the major Western powers.

    This has been completely abandoned in favor of kicking France and Germany out of Europe and making Poland and Latvia the new pillars of sound European decision making. The Eastern expansion of the EU and Nato will go down historically as to what doomed the grand vision of a peaceful and United Europe.

    The old saying about Konraad Adenauer muttering about Asiatics every time his train crossed east past the Elbe carried with it more than a little truth and the observation of the conservative reactionaries about the East were more prescient than the Liberal eurocrats who put out policy white papers about how Kosovo is the most law abiding nation in the Balkans.


    they need to post something negative about our people
     

    Some Northern Euro women sometimes go south for that, so they can slut it up in a foreign place where nobody knows them. They would not marry you or even date you seriously
     


    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBkf2egfZ6C2QyQL68p6JyAAJwOFNfXld55g&usqp.jpg

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    By the way, does anybody in either Korea feel any qualms about supplying weapons? After all that is meant to kill two closely related groups of Slavs. This is macabre.

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    This is a Brothers War in more than one sense. As an outsider you will never understand how truly macabre it is.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry. Later it was Stalin who gave Kim the go-ahead and T-34s to invade ROK

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Soviet_Amphibious_Landing_Chongjin_1945.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seishin_Operation

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Kisabur%C5%8D_Ohara%2C_Europe_and_Asia_Octopus_Map%2C_1904_Cornell_CUL_PJM_1145_01.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @LatW

  27. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    By the way, does anybody in either Korea feel any qualms about supplying weapons? After all that is meant to kill two closely related groups of Slavs. This is macabre.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    This is a Brothers War in more than one sense. As an outsider you will never understand how truly macabre it is.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The military in both Koreas probably feel like they are next. If NATO were to be successful in Ukraine the USA might use South Korea to pressure North Korea and ultimately China and Russia. Besides, North Korea can use the money and South Korea is probably bored.

    Shells like that are easy to make. The lack of ammo from the West is a sign of lack of will, not of ability. I wonder which country will buy the 155 ammo from Russia?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  28. @anyone with a brain
    Bitcoin has taken a tumble.

    Cryptocurrencies and blockchains are nothing but gambling vehicles. Any intelligent country would ban them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @YetAnotherAnon

    It took a much bigger tumble from 60k dollars two years ago, this time last year it was $16k. 40k now, so it would have been a nice Christmas present last year, and a bad one the year before.

    ETH has halved in dollar terms since Christmas 2021 as well.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I recently re-watched the Sam Bankman Fried presentation on Bankless. It was four days before Coindesk spilled the beans on the FTX books and six days before CZ did the demolition job. I couldn't get much past the 30 minute mark but it is perhaps one of the ten all time internet hits so far. Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytaa_5liwMA

    He is going to be locked up for a long time but they haven't done the sentence yet.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @LondonBob
    @YetAnotherAnon

    A lot of the alt coins are worthless now, as they all are ultimately. Also have to remember that a lot of people have had their 'coins' stolen too.

    Interesting question is who invented bitcoin, I would guess either the intelligence agencies, I think the hash things was patented by the NSA, or Paul Le Roux. Bitcoin has a purpose as such, Nikolai Mushegian was right, so I guess it will hang around.

  29. Political implications will be interesting, if Iran does send a man into space by 2029, as planned, even setting aside nuclear or other weapons potential.

    Imagine being beaten by Iran.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    Persia was once a mighty civilisation and empire, but that was a fair while ago.

    I wonder why Wiki doesn't call it the First Persian Empire, as it certainly would have been in older history books?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire


    In the modern era, the Achaemenid Empire has been recognized for its imposition of a successful model of centralized, bureaucratic administration; its multicultural policy; building complex infrastructure, such as road systems and an organized postal system; the use of official languages across its territories; and the development of civil services, including its possession of a large, professional army. Its advancements inspired the implementation of similar styles of governance by a variety of later empires.

     

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Imagine just how much more POWER Iran would have if it opened its doors wide open to Afghanistan's, Iraq's, and even Pakistan's human capital!

    Replies: @songbird

  30. @songbird
    Political implications will be interesting, if Iran does send a man into space by 2029, as planned, even setting aside nuclear or other weapons potential.

    Imagine being beaten by Iran.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. XYZ

    Persia was once a mighty civilisation and empire, but that was a fair while ago.

    I wonder why Wiki doesn’t call it the First Persian Empire, as it certainly would have been in older history books?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire

    In the modern era, the Achaemenid Empire has been recognized for its imposition of a successful model of centralized, bureaucratic administration; its multicultural policy; building complex infrastructure, such as road systems and an organized postal system; the use of official languages across its territories; and the development of civil services, including its possession of a large, professional army. Its advancements inspired the implementation of similar styles of governance by a variety of later empires.

  31. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    This is a Brothers War in more than one sense. As an outsider you will never understand how truly macabre it is.

    Replies: @QCIC

    The military in both Koreas probably feel like they are next. If NATO were to be successful in Ukraine the USA might use South Korea to pressure North Korea and ultimately China and Russia. Besides, North Korea can use the money and South Korea is probably bored.

    Shells like that are easy to make. The lack of ammo from the West is a sign of lack of will, not of ability. I wonder which country will buy the 155 ammo from Russia?

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @QCIC

    I think this is Fake News, but I'm interested in your opinion.



    https://twitter.com/alexbward/status/1734892249257738420

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

  32. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Have you followed?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GA8Xq2sXQAAqWEd.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    No. Is there a big commotion around e/acc in reddit Baltic sea?

    My main interest in the e/acc is I have always been interested in Nick Land’s writing. My main interest in the video was rich guys on drugs which is always funny.

  33. The Government is pissed at Assange and Snowden for exposing their Ted Bundy like alter-egos! Political opperative, rape crisis line worker, board member of Crime Prevention Task Force by day, Serial Killer and Serial Necropheliac by night! Face it Evil Trio – Government, Healthcare sector which includes Mental Healthcare and Big Pharma, and Orwellian Surveillance State! You all have Alter-Egos that are all Sadistic cold blooded monsters like Ted Bundy! You are guilty of crimes against humanity, Treason, Terrorism, Medical Fraud, Medical Torture, Munchausen Syndrome tactics which are pre-meditated mal-practice, and Seditious Conspiracy to Violate Constitutional Rights of the Established Authority which is We the People, the Sovereign Citizens, and Qualified Electors! It is totally impossible to peacefully co-exist with you! You have all waged a cowardly, undeclared war on We the People, because you want us to be unable to defend ourselves against your tyranny, treason, crimes against humanity, mass murder, organized crime sprees, and kleptocracy! Face it Evil Trio! You are prison material like Ted Bundy and the Manson Family! You are no better than Ted Bundy and the Manson Family Evil Trio! Face it Evil Trio! You belong in federal pennitentiaries for life like Ted Bundy and the Manson Family! I know that Leslie Van Houten was released from prison, but she should not have been because of the trauma to the murder victims family members that pleaded to the court not to release her.

  34. @Mr. XYZ
    @A123


    There was some thought that the GOP debates would yield a name. However, the only person who did well is Vivek, and he does not have enough of a track record. Fake Trump supporters will push warmongering RINOs like DeSantis or Nikki Haley.

     

    Elise Stefanik would be pretty good, no?

    https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/l/85/2021/05/rep1.jpeg

    https://i.insider.com/628277779147a30018b48d39?width=1136&format=jpeg

    "She's sophisticated. She's got class. Dangerous curves. And a whole lot of ass."

    From this song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujSA_Lv1cCY

    Replies: @Beckow

    A low-class descendant of one of my people and a total fake. She is reading scripts like an obedient squaw who wants to get that extra bowl off porridge.

    Those curves are going to get a lot worse, I would pass…

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Those curves are going to get a lot worse
     
    Reminds me of an old Soviet-era joke.
    A woman is about to yield to a guy, but before she undresses, she says:
    - My dear, I have to warn you. Before I met you, I loved another guy very much and have tattooed his portrait on my right breast.
    - OK.
    - You know, I loved yet another guy very much and have tattooed his portrait on my left breast.
    The guy starts guffawing.
    - Why are you laughing?
    - I just imagined what their faces will look like in 20 years.
  35. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    A low-class descendant of one of my people and a total fake. She is reading scripts like an obedient squaw who wants to get that extra bowl off porridge.

    Those curves are going to get a lot worse, I would pass...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Those curves are going to get a lot worse

    Reminds me of an old Soviet-era joke.
    A woman is about to yield to a guy, but before she undresses, she says:
    – My dear, I have to warn you. Before I met you, I loved another guy very much and have tattooed his portrait on my right breast.
    – OK.
    – You know, I loved yet another guy very much and have tattooed his portrait on my left breast.
    The guy starts guffawing.
    – Why are you laughing?
    – I just imagined what their faces will look like in 20 years.

  36. From the onset of Covid-19 medical fraud since it was a fictious virus, every Triage worker i the Evil Trio just decided the hell with everyone else, just wanted to save themselves, even if it entailed medical fraud, pre-meditated mal-practice, mass murder, shutting down the entire country resulting in many destroyed small businesses, families, jobs, home owners, and even if it entailed destroying every child in the entire country. It was all worth it to them.

    In the cowardly undeclared war waged against We the People by the Evil Trio, like Ted Bundy, they want us to be helpless to stop their sadistic crimes against us, like Ted Bundy, the Evil Trio Vampires have sucked the life right out of us in exchange for ever lasting life in the alternate universe of the surveillance state, all captives of Hotel California Silicon Valley. It is not what we asked for. It is not what we bargained for. It is not what we dreamed of. It is not what we hoped for. The exchange of the perfect American dream recreated as a chatbot created by a sick thief that stole our lives. Like Ted Bundy they want us to be unable to refuse them, unable to fight back, and unable to leave.

  37. Zero for Zelensky: (1)

    Zelensky Leaves Empty-Handed — McConnell Admits Ukraine Aid Talks Going Nowhere, Punts to January

    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky will come up empty in his latest swing through the U.S. Capitol.

    Negotiations on additional American aid to Ukraine paired with a border security package are dead for 2023, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reportedly told his fellow Senate Republicans at their weekly lunch Tuesday.

    Earlier Tuesday, Zelensky met individually with Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA). Afterward, Johnson reiterated his position that the White House and Senate must get serious about securing the border before any additional aid to Ukraine can be considered, arguing that the Biden administration has failed to outline clear goals in further assisting Ukraine’s war against Russia.

    “We need a clear articulation of the strategy,” he said.

    Forever Wars can come back like Nosferatu, so I do not want to declare permanent victory. However, McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/12/zelensky-leaves-empty-handed-mcconnell-admits-ukraine-aid-talks-going-nowhere-punts-to-january/

    • Replies: @AP
    @A123

    It wasn't zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-announces-two-hundred-million-dollars-additional-military-aid-ukraine-zelenskyy-visit-white-house

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

    , @Mikel
    @A123


    McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.
     
    Even more impressive is Lindsey Graham saying that he won't support the Ukraine aid package without a compromise on the border. This is the guy who used to tour Ukrainian military bases even before the war had started and harangue soldiers fighting the pro-Russians saying that "your fight is our fight".

    I may not buy a used car from him but Gaetz is now one of my political heroes. His rebellion shook the party like nothing since Trump's appearance.

    I still think they will all cave in eventually and Ukraine will get a hefty package without anyone fixing anything of consequence on the border. But I wouldn't have predicted this a few months ago.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

    , @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    However, McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.
     
    What national prestige and honor? From propping up Ukraine and being its largest supporter to doing an abrupt about face and letting it flounder to the financial might of the greatest gas station in the world? The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world. It will equally look like a cowardly nation not worth the ink that it signs in any future agreements, think Budapest Memorandum.

    2-3 months of closer deliberations in the congress should result in a clearer path of Ukrainian support. It aint over till the fat lady sings!

    Replies: @Derer, @Mikel

  38. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    The Baltic States acting as sock puppets in Europe against China is probably the most pathetic display of political stupidity and flunkeyism I have ever seen. It's not just smarter and more capable people would play off the Chinese against the Americans to extract concessions for their own benefit and vice versa.

    Want a China bad statement? We could use a new football stadium. What's really rather sad is the reality that their countries are facing eminent extinction within a single generation. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, etc will cease to exist by mid century as the young and capable decamp for Germany/“The North East"(Costco is truly genius and very affordable annual membership is only $50, you quickly make that back in savings. I love those large frozen Alaskan salmon and cod packets) in droves and all that will be left is a retirement home masquerading as a country.

    Spending your remaining political time calling Russia names is bad enough, but spending it calling China, a country you have zero history or interaction with at the behest of your superiors, while your country disappears year by year in front of your very eyes due to the neoliberal economic and political system you seek to uphold is something else.

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    China, a country you have zero history or interaction

    Not true, Chinese and Latvians fought together for the Reds (not a flattering depiction here though)

    https://www.rbth.com/history/333135-how-chinese-soldiers-helped-bolsheviks

    Both Chinese and Japanese also supported the Whites and Czech Legion

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks! I've heard of that!

    BTW, off-topic, but I've got an alternate history question for you: In the absence of the Bolsheviks coming to power in Russia (either no Bolshevik coup at all in 1917 or the Whites winning the Russian Civil War), do you ever see Japan waging a war against either Russia or the United States, or even against both of them, perhaps even simultaneously (or not)?

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I highly recommend the book Tennozan by George Fiefer, about the battle of Okinawa and the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan. Incredible stuff, it includes a funny story of a Kamikaze pilot who, after the sacramental saki and everything, took to the skies on his mission, but doubled back and strafed his celebratory comrades before actually heading out.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  39. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    By the way, does anybody in either Korea feel any qualms about supplying weapons? After all that is meant to kill two closely related groups of Slavs. This is macabre.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry. Later it was Stalin who gave Kim the go-ahead and T-34s to invade ROK
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seishin_Operation

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Seems like the smart thing for Tsar Nicholas II to do would have been to try partitioning Korea with Japan without a war--or, failing that, to let Japan have Korea in exchange for Russia having Manchuria and then having Russia outright annex Manchuria in order to secure all of the ethnic Chinese human capital there. If Sakhalin Koreans can successfully become Russians, why not Manchurian Chinese as well? They were largely illiterate back in 1900, after all--were they not? So, plenty of potential to instill a Russian (well, more accurately, a fusion Russo-Chinese) national consciousness inside of them.

    , @LatW
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry.
     
    That is quite horrible, a friend mine has a half-Korean friend whose family was apparently split up. :(

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea
     
    That is a really cool picture of the Black Octopus. Indeed, already so large, and yet still so full of avarice.

    Btw, if you're interested, I can share a bit about the Latvians who participated in the Russo-Japanese war (as part of the Tsar's army). I'm not too happy that they were there, killing Japanese, but at the time that's how the Empire was run.

    Here is a little write up from our history encyclopedia (you can see how this far off war shaped some of the later political events). It doesn't seem like a huge number of people but many of them were highly specialized:

    In the Russo-Japanese War, for the first time, Latvians participated en masse in modern warfare as military personnel involved in the service of the Russian Army and Navy - officers, soldiers and sailors, military officials, paramedics and pharmacists, as well as priests.

    The impact of the war extended beyond the military sphere and permeated Latvian society. The war's influence was evident in factors associated with the 1905 revolution. As early as 1904, the war's events began shaping the trajectory of Latvian urban industry (for example, a large order for railway wagons was received by the "Fenikss" factory in Riga, where around 2000 workers worked).

    The war significantly activated the social democratic groups established in the previous years in the industrial centers of Riga, Liepāja, Jelgava and Daugavpils, which started anti-war propaganda, there was some cooperation between Latvian, Polish, Lithuanian and Belarusian social democrats, for example, they issued a joint anti-war proclamation, while emphasizing the fact of national oppression.

    Latvian left-wing political groups, unlike the radical wing of the Polish Socialist Party, did not, however, get involved in supporting Russia's open enemy - Japan, although it was done by the prominent social democrat, editor of the newspaper "Struggle" Janis Jansons-Braun (in 07.01.1905, he reported from Liepāja to the General Staff of the Japanese Army about the activities of the Russian Navy).

    Recruitment

    In the Baltic governorates' territory, multiple mobilizations of military personnel in the army reserve occurred, involving troops in local garrisons. Within the regiments stationed in the European part of Russia, a selection of officers was made through a lottery system, and these chosen officers were then deployed to the front in the Far East. Latvians were among those selected, with a notable concentration of officers of Latvian origin in the troops stationed in the Baltic and surrounding provinces.

    Troop units, mobilized reservists, armaments, military equipment, and supplementary food supplies were transported from the European part of Russia to the war zone exclusively through the Trans-Siberian railway. The journey along this vital transport artery spanned 5 to 6 weeks.

    Description of the Latvian contingent and their military activity

    A total of at least 179 officers of Latvian nationality (most in infantry units), as well as about 60-80 enlisted officers (praporshchiks) mainly in infantry units and artillery, about 60-80 paramedics, pharmacists and military officials, as well as 2,500-3,000 soldiers and sailors participated in the hostilities.

    The companies were commanded by about 40-50 officers of Latvian nationality, there were also many younger officers, and most of them were awarded with combat orders.

    Some Latvians also served in the artillery units at the front, and took part in the battle at Mukden, served as task officers for communications with the Port Arthur fortress in the Manchurian Army's War Traffic Department. Some ran mobilization efforts.

    Captain astronomer Andrejs Auzans served in the topographers' unit in the 2nd Manchurian War. Several Latvians held positions in structures that cared for the wounded: Lieutenant Vilhelms Kaminskis was the manager of the hospital in Khabarovsk; lieutenant Jānis Miglavs – manager of the infirmary of the 54th division; captain Jānis Krastiņš – manager of the 63rd mobile field hospital and others. The former police chief of Kwantun and Port Arthur, lieutenant colonel Indriķis Lediņš, performed special tasks during the war as the commander of a special troops unit, performing tasks related to intelligence.

    Latvian sailors were engaged in combat right from the outset of the war. In the initial weeks, a minimum of six Latvians lost their lives, with three casualties occurring on the sunken cruiser "Varyag." Numerous Latvian sailors, totaling several hundred, served on the ships of the Pacific squadron either due to compulsory service or as part of their call-up for the Russo-Japanese War at the onset of the conflict.

    As in the ground forces, the Navy also had many soldiers and officers of Baltic-German origin.

    Latvian doctors, veterinary doctors, and pharmacists, whether conscripted, volunteers, or serving professionally in the army, participated in the war with Japan. This group included at least five professional army war doctors and approximately 40-50 doctors called up from the reserve. These medical professionals served in various capacities, including military units, infirmaries, hospitals, and Russian Red Cross medical institutions, where Latvian Sisters of Mercy were also present. Additionally, there were pharmacists contributing to the medical efforts at Port Arthur.

    The spiritual care of Latvian, German and Estonian Lutheran soldiers was carried out by Latvian pastors.

    About 200-250 Latvian soldiers and sailors died in the battles, including 12 officers. Many Baltic German officers died, too.

    There were many wounded and captured. Around 150-200 Latvian soldiers and sailors were captured, and were released at the end of 1905-1906. One of the soldiers saved the imperial monogram attached to the regimental flag during his captivity.

    The conflict with Japan marked the inaugural instance of substantial Latvian military participation in a 20th-century war. Latvians, including officers, military medics, pharmacists, and military officials, were actively involved. This engagement provided them with valuable exposure to modern combat, significantly influencing their career advancement. The experience gained in this conflict played a pivotal role in shaping the actions of Latvian soldiers during the subsequent First World War and the Latvian War of Independence.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @LatW
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I'd like to share this, too - a very beautiful South East Asian mandarin duck has appeared in Estonia, for some reason it has decided to spend the winter there. It really stands out.

    https://news.err.ee/1609192444/colorful-mandarin-duck-becomes-star-after-deciding-to-spend-winter-in-tartu

  40. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    China, a country you have zero history or interaction
     
    Not true, Chinese and Latvians fought together for the Reds (not a flattering depiction here though)

    https://i.postimg.cc/7YNg709Q/Sukuri-nshotto-1.png

    https://www.rbth.com/history/333135-how-chinese-soldiers-helped-bolsheviks

    Both Chinese and Japanese also supported the Whites and Czech Legion

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Kaartje_amerikanen_in_Rusland-1-.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Thanks! I’ve heard of that!

    BTW, off-topic, but I’ve got an alternate history question for you: In the absence of the Bolsheviks coming to power in Russia (either no Bolshevik coup at all in 1917 or the Whites winning the Russian Civil War), do you ever see Japan waging a war against either Russia or the United States, or even against both of them, perhaps even simultaneously (or not)?

  41. @songbird
    Political implications will be interesting, if Iran does send a man into space by 2029, as planned, even setting aside nuclear or other weapons potential.

    Imagine being beaten by Iran.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. XYZ

    Imagine just how much more POWER Iran would have if it opened its doors wide open to Afghanistan’s, Iraq’s, and even Pakistan’s human capital!

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Not really that hard to build a solid rocket.

    Persians and others were doing it 800 years ago, with gunpowder.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  42. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry. Later it was Stalin who gave Kim the go-ahead and T-34s to invade ROK

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Soviet_Amphibious_Landing_Chongjin_1945.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seishin_Operation

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Kisabur%C5%8D_Ohara%2C_Europe_and_Asia_Octopus_Map%2C_1904_Cornell_CUL_PJM_1145_01.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @LatW

    Seems like the smart thing for Tsar Nicholas II to do would have been to try partitioning Korea with Japan without a war–or, failing that, to let Japan have Korea in exchange for Russia having Manchuria and then having Russia outright annex Manchuria in order to secure all of the ethnic Chinese human capital there. If Sakhalin Koreans can successfully become Russians, why not Manchurian Chinese as well? They were largely illiterate back in 1900, after all–were they not? So, plenty of potential to instill a Russian (well, more accurately, a fusion Russo-Chinese) national consciousness inside of them.

  43. @YetAnotherAnon
    @anyone with a brain

    It took a much bigger tumble from 60k dollars two years ago, this time last year it was $16k. 40k now, so it would have been a nice Christmas present last year, and a bad one the year before.

    ETH has halved in dollar terms since Christmas 2021 as well.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LondonBob

    I recently re-watched the Sam Bankman Fried presentation on Bankless. It was four days before Coindesk spilled the beans on the FTX books and six days before CZ did the demolition job. I couldn’t get much past the 30 minute mark but it is perhaps one of the ten all time internet hits so far. Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.

    [MORE]

    He is going to be locked up for a long time but they haven’t done the sentence yet.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Scam Bankrun-Fraud openly gave huge sums to the Dems, and secretly gave a similar amount to the Republicans. He was also covertly holding down the market price of Bitcoin (and maybe was not the only one because quite possibly there is someone still doing it).

    You can't really deter someone like SBF who though it seems illogical had to be hugely important even in the scale of the disaster he'd cause. Stockton Rush the boss of the submarine that was destroyed on a trip to see the wreck of the Titanic was similar. They both absolutely knew how it would end.

    He didn't get offered a plea bargain so they were forcing him to go to trial and the only intention of that was to make plead not guilty all the better to make an example of him the original soft hearted judge dropped out because of a conflict of interest with her husbands firm doing work for SBF's company and she was replaced with the most dreaded judge in the system. I don't think SBF is necessarily going to be hammered but any great leniency is unlikely now Don't forget about Sam's parents being law professors and probably having an unrealistic faith in what legal representation can achieve, especially misplaced in SBF's context with his political donations embarrassing the government. The donations are what sank him because he was targeted. The speed of his trial proves it. He also cost Tom Brady (hired to do advertisments) a lot of money he invested in FTX.


    He hung himself out to dry in the stand, yet could have been the best most convincing witness ever and avoiding testifying to lies that could be exposed on cross examination by records but still would not have stood a chance with three of the four founders of the firm testifying that he did it. He did not take his pick of the law firms, a 76 year old close friend of the father and enormously wealthy investment fund owner, law professor, and in the 1980's superstar defense attorney did the rounds to get someone to represent SBF and was turned down repeatedly, so the lawyers Sam got were well down the list and likely the only name ones who would take the case rather than being currently at the top of their game. They were facing a huge prosecutorial team out to get him only, and swiftly going to trial. He ought to have insisted the defence team concentrated on his case much more, they were obviously used to having much more time to work on other things while also mastering the avalanche of irrelevant 'discovery' detail in SBF's case (common prosecutorial ploy flood the defence with complex documents).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  44. Tucker Carlson on the Jimmy Dore Show! Talking Jon Stewart, Alex Jones, Israel, COVID & More!

  45. BTW, off-topic, but is it fair to say that the Crimean Corridor is Russia’s version of what the Polish Corridor was to Germany before 1945? Specifically, a non-ethnically Russian land connecting two ethnic Russian territories (Crimea and the core Russian heartland). Similar to how the Polish Corridor was Polish-majority but nevertheless connected ethnic German East Prussia and the core German heartland?

    Languages in Prussia according to Census Data from 1905 and 1910.
    byu/Pilum2211 inMapPorn

    The populations of Crimea and East Prussia are roughly comparable as well. Both in the two million range. A small drop in the bucket relative to the populations of the core German and Russian territories.

    I wonder if Russians view the Crimean Corridor similarly to how Germans viewed the Polish Corridor in the 1919-1945 time period. The Crimean Corridor is very useful insurance against the sabotage of the Crimean Bridge, after all.

    Interesting that both the German National State (under both Weimar Germany and Nazism) and the Russian National State (under Putin) have made it a mission to reacquire these territorial corridors.

    AP, does my analogy here seem spot on? And what do you think, Mr. Hack?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    I don't know what the German public thought of the Polish corridor, I suspect many wanted to take it, but the Russian public never cared much for Kherson or Zaporizhia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  46. The Great Bifurcation in action:

    The Russia-China-Iran Axis recognize the Taliban as Afghanistan’s legitimate government, with the West and their allies still recognizing Afghanistan’s former government as legitimate. India appears to be the odd one out here, also recognizing the Taliban. I wonder why that is. Maybe because Modi admires strength?

    Tajikistan supports the former Afghan government due to Tajik national solidarity (that crosses across national borders), I would presume? Afghanistan has a lot of Tajiks and their political position has likely significantly weakened in Afghanistan with the Taliban’s return to power there in 2021.

  47. @Mr. XYZ
    BTW, off-topic, but is it fair to say that the Crimean Corridor is Russia's version of what the Polish Corridor was to Germany before 1945? Specifically, a non-ethnically Russian land connecting two ethnic Russian territories (Crimea and the core Russian heartland). Similar to how the Polish Corridor was Polish-majority but nevertheless connected ethnic German East Prussia and the core German heartland?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/q6rg3q/languages_in_prussia_according_to_census_data/

    The populations of Crimea and East Prussia are roughly comparable as well. Both in the two million range. A small drop in the bucket relative to the populations of the core German and Russian territories.

    I wonder if Russians view the Crimean Corridor similarly to how Germans viewed the Polish Corridor in the 1919-1945 time period. The Crimean Corridor is very useful insurance against the sabotage of the Crimean Bridge, after all.

    Interesting that both the German National State (under both Weimar Germany and Nazism) and the Russian National State (under Putin) have made it a mission to reacquire these territorial corridors.

    AP, does my analogy here seem spot on? And what do you think, Mr. Hack?

    Replies: @AP

    I don’t know what the German public thought of the Polish corridor, I suspect many wanted to take it, but the Russian public never cared much for Kherson or Zaporizhia.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    AFAIK, a lot of Germans, even in Weimar times, were very upset over the Polish Corridor because it split Germany into two separate parts. I suspect that Prussians were by far the most upset of all because it was their own German state that was split into two parts. Bavarians, Saxons, et cetera had less of a stake in this. I think that what increased the level of offense was the fact that Germans could not easily travel by either road or rail between East Prussia and the German core territories:

    https://archive.org/details/polishcorridorco00donauoft/page/80/mode/2up?q=rail

    https://archive.org/details/polishcorridorco00donauoft/page/82/mode/2up?q=rail

    https://archive.org/details/polishcorridorco00donauoft/page/n103/mode/2up?q=rail

    IIRC, Hitler wanted to solve this problem in a way that was also satisfactory to Poland by building an elevated extraterritorial German road/highway across the Polish Corridor (which would remain Polish) and, of course, returning overwhelmingly German Danzig to Germany. AFAIK, Poland either said no or simply refused to consider Hitler's offer, which along with various other things (refusing to join the Anti-Comintern Pact, allying with Britain, mistreating its Germans) caused Hitler to significantly sour on Poland.


    but the Russian public never cared much for Kherson or Zaporizhia.
     
    Just how much do Russians care about travelling to Crimea by land? Because the Crimean Corridor makes this considerably easier since the Crimean Bridge can always get targeted by Ukrainian missiles and/or blown up by Ukrainian bombs.

    Kherson itself (as in, the city of Kherson) is not a part of the Crimean Corridor and thus not vital (it's on the wrong side of the Dnieper River), but the parts of the Crimean Corridor that Russia currently controls do appear to be vital, at least for travelling to Crimea by land.

    Also, as you can see here, the city of Zaporizhia (unlike the southern part of Zaporizhia Oblast) is not vital for land communication between the core Russian territories and Crimea:

    https://www.worldometers.info/img/maps/ukraine_road_map.gif

  48. @A123
    Zero for Zelensky: (1)

    Zelensky Leaves Empty-Handed -- McConnell Admits Ukraine Aid Talks Going Nowhere, Punts to January

     

    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky will come up empty in his latest swing through the U.S. Capitol.

    Negotiations on additional American aid to Ukraine paired with a border security package are dead for 2023, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reportedly told his fellow Senate Republicans at their weekly lunch Tuesday.
    ...
    Earlier Tuesday, Zelensky met individually with Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA). Afterward, Johnson reiterated his position that the White House and Senate must get serious about securing the border before any additional aid to Ukraine can be considered, arguing that the Biden administration has failed to outline clear goals in further assisting Ukraine’s war against Russia.

    “We need a clear articulation of the strategy,” he said.
     
    Forever Wars can come back like Nosferatu, so I do not want to declare permanent victory. However, McConnell's open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America's national prestige and honour.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/12/zelensky-leaves-empty-handed-mcconnell-admits-ukraine-aid-talks-going-nowhere-punts-to-january/

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @Mr. Hack

    It wasn’t zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-announces-two-hundred-million-dollars-additional-military-aid-ukraine-zelenskyy-visit-white-house

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January
     
    Maybe till New Year if the war takes a break over Christmas. But the Ukie request was for $60 billion - $200 million is 0.3% of that amount.

    It is not sustainable. US has spent $110 billion so far on the Ukie aid, incl. paying salaries-pensions. The request for next year was 1/2 of that. To keep Ukraine afloat requires $100 billion annually from US-EU. That is an amount that dwarfs any previous aid to any country - e.g. total Argentinian IMF debt is $40 billion, plus another $40 billion to others - and they are about to go bankrupt in a peace time.

    Kiev can start printing hrivnas to keep paying the salaries-pensions and for the war. But that has historically led to hyper-inflation. Both militarily and economically Kiev is cornered.

    Have you started to organize the partisans yet? Zelko dresses like Che so it is appropriate that the war eventually goes the guerrilla route. I am pretty sure he won't stick around....What a f..ing waste, it will be studied for years for the cosmic level of stupidity. The lesson is never to listen to a fat elderly lady like Nuland,

    Replies: @AP

    , @A123
    @AP


    It wasn’t zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.
     
    😆 ROTFLMAO 😁 -- Kiev aggression burns over €1 Billion/week. At best, Zelensky received 2 days of funding. At worst, it is aging shelf stock that has no use other than resale on the black market.

    January is when the TALKS will restart. The next OPPORTUNITY for non-trivial funding is February or March. Is it possible that some money may wind up in a bill? Yes. However, it would be a tiny fraction of what Kiev aggression wants. The Veggie-in-Chief's team is focusing on U.S. elections, where Ukie extremism is a liability.

    Please answer this question directly:

    Will Germany & France pony up an ADDITIONAL €3-5 Billion/month?

    Scholz is in the midst of an epic budget crisis. Macron had a catastrophic legislative failure and could face a no confidence vote. EU puppet masters are dangling their flailing Zelensky on visibly tangled strings.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

  49. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ

    I don't know what the German public thought of the Polish corridor, I suspect many wanted to take it, but the Russian public never cared much for Kherson or Zaporizhia.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    AFAIK, a lot of Germans, even in Weimar times, were very upset over the Polish Corridor because it split Germany into two separate parts. I suspect that Prussians were by far the most upset of all because it was their own German state that was split into two parts. Bavarians, Saxons, et cetera had less of a stake in this. I think that what increased the level of offense was the fact that Germans could not easily travel by either road or rail between East Prussia and the German core territories:

    https://archive.org/details/polishcorridorco00donauoft/page/80/mode/2up?q=rail

    https://archive.org/details/polishcorridorco00donauoft/page/82/mode/2up?q=rail

    https://archive.org/details/polishcorridorco00donauoft/page/n103/mode/2up?q=rail

    IIRC, Hitler wanted to solve this problem in a way that was also satisfactory to Poland by building an elevated extraterritorial German road/highway across the Polish Corridor (which would remain Polish) and, of course, returning overwhelmingly German Danzig to Germany. AFAIK, Poland either said no or simply refused to consider Hitler’s offer, which along with various other things (refusing to join the Anti-Comintern Pact, allying with Britain, mistreating its Germans) caused Hitler to significantly sour on Poland.

    but the Russian public never cared much for Kherson or Zaporizhia.

    Just how much do Russians care about travelling to Crimea by land? Because the Crimean Corridor makes this considerably easier since the Crimean Bridge can always get targeted by Ukrainian missiles and/or blown up by Ukrainian bombs.

    Kherson itself (as in, the city of Kherson) is not a part of the Crimean Corridor and thus not vital (it’s on the wrong side of the Dnieper River), but the parts of the Crimean Corridor that Russia currently controls do appear to be vital, at least for travelling to Crimea by land.

    Also, as you can see here, the city of Zaporizhia (unlike the southern part of Zaporizhia Oblast) is not vital for land communication between the core Russian territories and Crimea:

  50. @AP
    @A123

    It wasn't zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-announces-two-hundred-million-dollars-additional-military-aid-ukraine-zelenskyy-visit-white-house

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

    …he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January

    Maybe till New Year if the war takes a break over Christmas. But the Ukie request was for $60 billion – $200 million is 0.3% of that amount.

    It is not sustainable. US has spent $110 billion so far on the Ukie aid, incl. paying salaries-pensions. The request for next year was 1/2 of that. To keep Ukraine afloat requires $100 billion annually from US-EU. That is an amount that dwarfs any previous aid to any country – e.g. total Argentinian IMF debt is $40 billion, plus another $40 billion to others – and they are about to go bankrupt in a peace time.

    Kiev can start printing hrivnas to keep paying the salaries-pensions and for the war. But that has historically led to hyper-inflation. Both militarily and economically Kiev is cornered.

    Have you started to organize the partisans yet? Zelko dresses like Che so it is appropriate that the war eventually goes the guerrilla route. I am pretty sure he won’t stick around….What a f..ing waste, it will be studied for years for the cosmic level of stupidity. The lesson is never to listen to a fat elderly lady like Nuland,

    • Agree: Mikhail, A123
    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    …he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January

    Maybe till New Year if the war takes a break over Christmas
     
    He got $175 million a few weeks ago.

    There is $4.4 billion left that can still be given but has not been distributed yet.

    It is not sustainable. US has spent $110 billion so far on the Ukie aid, incl. paying salaries-pensions.
     
    Of course it has not spent $110 billion.

    A lot of that amount is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren't sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn't cash being sent.

    A lot of that amount is the cost of ammo being made at US factories. This is good for American workers in the heartland, and good for the US defense industry. It, too, isn't cash being sent to Ukraine.

    And here the total that Ukraine has gotten in equipment + cash has been $75 billion:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/us/politics/ukraine-us-military-aid.html#:~:text=Since%20Russia's%20February%202022%20invasion,and%20addressing%20its%20humanitarian%20needs.

    Since Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the Biden administration has sent more than $75 billion in cash and equipment to the country for its defense. Most of the aid has gone to Ukraine’s military operations, keeping its government running and addressing its humanitarian needs.

    Looks like the cash amount has been $26.4 billion.

    A little bit more than 10 Las Vegas spheres.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38U2q96OTg

    Or ten miles of New York subway:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-23/in-nyc-subway-a-case-study-in-runaway-transit-construction-costs

    Not much, all things considered, for wrecking much of Russia's military.

    What a f..ing waste, this will be studied for decades for the cosmic level stupidity.
     
    Russia did indeed do a stupid thing, for which both Russia and Ukraine are paying a steep price.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

  51. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January
     
    Maybe till New Year if the war takes a break over Christmas. But the Ukie request was for $60 billion - $200 million is 0.3% of that amount.

    It is not sustainable. US has spent $110 billion so far on the Ukie aid, incl. paying salaries-pensions. The request for next year was 1/2 of that. To keep Ukraine afloat requires $100 billion annually from US-EU. That is an amount that dwarfs any previous aid to any country - e.g. total Argentinian IMF debt is $40 billion, plus another $40 billion to others - and they are about to go bankrupt in a peace time.

    Kiev can start printing hrivnas to keep paying the salaries-pensions and for the war. But that has historically led to hyper-inflation. Both militarily and economically Kiev is cornered.

    Have you started to organize the partisans yet? Zelko dresses like Che so it is appropriate that the war eventually goes the guerrilla route. I am pretty sure he won't stick around....What a f..ing waste, it will be studied for years for the cosmic level of stupidity. The lesson is never to listen to a fat elderly lady like Nuland,

    Replies: @AP

    …he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January

    Maybe till New Year if the war takes a break over Christmas

    He got $175 million a few weeks ago.

    There is $4.4 billion left that can still be given but has not been distributed yet.

    It is not sustainable. US has spent $110 billion so far on the Ukie aid, incl. paying salaries-pensions.

    Of course it has not spent $110 billion.

    A lot of that amount is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren’t sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.

    A lot of that amount is the cost of ammo being made at US factories. This is good for American workers in the heartland, and good for the US defense industry. It, too, isn’t cash being sent to Ukraine.

    And here the total that Ukraine has gotten in equipment + cash has been $75 billion:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/us/politics/ukraine-us-military-aid.html#:~:text=Since%20Russia’s%20February%202022%20invasion,and%20addressing%20its%20humanitarian%20needs.

    Since Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the Biden administration has sent more than $75 billion in cash and equipment to the country for its defense. Most of the aid has gone to Ukraine’s military operations, keeping its government running and addressing its humanitarian needs.

    Looks like the cash amount has been $26.4 billion.

    A little bit more than 10 Las Vegas spheres.

    Or ten miles of New York subway:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-23/in-nyc-subway-a-case-study-in-runaway-transit-construction-costs

    Not much, all things considered, for wrecking much of Russia’s military.

    What a f..ing waste, this will be studied for decades for the cosmic level stupidity.

    Russia did indeed do a stupid thing, for which both Russia and Ukraine are paying a steep price.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price. They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia (yes, it can be done) and treating all its people equally.

    Instead they chose to force a mono-Ukie-culture on all of Ukraine ("ban Russians!"), to join Nato and act as a forward base for Washington fanatics who constantly dream about dismantling or diminishing Russia. It had no chance of success - and now for the consequences.


    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.
     
    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU. That is a lot of cash...no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don't ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen? Try to be logical for once...

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia - he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia's wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia's leases in Crimea. What could have been...but it is too late.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    , @Derer
    @AP


    Russia did indeed do a stupid thing, for which both Russia and Ukraine are paying a steep price.
     
    How could milking the Washington and Brussels simpleminded players at 33 trillion debt be stupid from Russian point of view. Actually this is the main reason for Putin policy to "go slow". Some dense people will never understand that Russia have capability to overrun Ukraine in one month.

    It appears that waiting for the removal of Kiev leadership from within and causing economic stress for the adversaries is paying off. Ask the German people or American if they are better off at $6.00 bread price.

    Replies: @AP

  52. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Imagine just how much more POWER Iran would have if it opened its doors wide open to Afghanistan's, Iraq's, and even Pakistan's human capital!

    Replies: @songbird

    Not really that hard to build a solid rocket.

    Persians and others were doing it 800 years ago, with gunpowder.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Sending a man into space is much, much harder, no?

    Replies: @songbird

  53. @A123
    Zero for Zelensky: (1)

    Zelensky Leaves Empty-Handed -- McConnell Admits Ukraine Aid Talks Going Nowhere, Punts to January

     

    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky will come up empty in his latest swing through the U.S. Capitol.

    Negotiations on additional American aid to Ukraine paired with a border security package are dead for 2023, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reportedly told his fellow Senate Republicans at their weekly lunch Tuesday.
    ...
    Earlier Tuesday, Zelensky met individually with Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA). Afterward, Johnson reiterated his position that the White House and Senate must get serious about securing the border before any additional aid to Ukraine can be considered, arguing that the Biden administration has failed to outline clear goals in further assisting Ukraine’s war against Russia.

    “We need a clear articulation of the strategy,” he said.
     
    Forever Wars can come back like Nosferatu, so I do not want to declare permanent victory. However, McConnell's open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America's national prestige and honour.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/12/zelensky-leaves-empty-handed-mcconnell-admits-ukraine-aid-talks-going-nowhere-punts-to-january/

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @Mr. Hack

    McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.

    Even more impressive is Lindsey Graham saying that he won’t support the Ukraine aid package without a compromise on the border. This is the guy who used to tour Ukrainian military bases even before the war had started and harangue soldiers fighting the pro-Russians saying that “your fight is our fight”.

    I may not buy a used car from him but Gaetz is now one of my political heroes. His rebellion shook the party like nothing since Trump’s appearance.

    I still think they will all cave in eventually and Ukraine will get a hefty package without anyone fixing anything of consequence on the border. But I wouldn’t have predicted this a few months ago.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    I may not buy a used car from him but Gaetz is now one of my political heroes
     
    Of course he is.
    , @Mikhail
    @Mikel

    Among US senators, this guy is great:

    https://www.rt.com/news/588949-zelensky-visit-us-disgraceful/

  54. @AP
    @A123

    It wasn't zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-announces-two-hundred-million-dollars-additional-military-aid-ukraine-zelenskyy-visit-white-house

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123

    It wasn’t zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😁 — Kiev aggression burns over €1 Billion/week. At best, Zelensky received 2 days of funding. At worst, it is aging shelf stock that has no use other than resale on the black market.

    January is when the TALKS will restart. The next OPPORTUNITY for non-trivial funding is February or March. Is it possible that some money may wind up in a bill? Yes. However, it would be a tiny fraction of what Kiev aggression wants. The Veggie-in-Chief’s team is focusing on U.S. elections, where Ukie extremism is a liability.

    Please answer this question directly:

    Will Germany & France pony up an ADDITIONAL €3-5 Billion/month?

    Scholz is in the midst of an epic budget crisis. Macron had a catastrophic legislative failure and could face a no confidence vote. EU puppet masters are dangling their flailing Zelensky on visibly tangled strings.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AP
    @A123


    It wasn’t zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😁 —
     
    You said he got zero.

    Is $200 million zero?

    Kiev aggression burns over €1 Billion/week.
     
    With some creative accounting.

    At worst, it is aging shelf stock that has no use other than resale on the black market.
     
    That stuff is rather effective at killing Russian invaders though.

    January is when the TALKS will restart
     
    And in the meantime more will be taken from the remaining $4.4 billion set aside.

    Please answer this question directly:

    Will Germany & France pony up an ADDITIONAL €3-5 Billion/month?
     
    Who knows? Hungary is holding up a $50 billion aid package. Hopefully it gets through eventually. They will simply have to bribe Orban.

    Replies: @A123

  55. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry. Later it was Stalin who gave Kim the go-ahead and T-34s to invade ROK

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Soviet_Amphibious_Landing_Chongjin_1945.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seishin_Operation

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Kisabur%C5%8D_Ohara%2C_Europe_and_Asia_Octopus_Map%2C_1904_Cornell_CUL_PJM_1145_01.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @LatW

    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry.

    That is quite horrible, a friend mine has a half-Korean friend whose family was apparently split up. 🙁

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea

    That is a really cool picture of the Black Octopus. Indeed, already so large, and yet still so full of avarice.

    [MORE]

    Btw, if you’re interested, I can share a bit about the Latvians who participated in the Russo-Japanese war (as part of the Tsar’s army). I’m not too happy that they were there, killing Japanese, but at the time that’s how the Empire was run.

    Here is a little write up from our history encyclopedia (you can see how this far off war shaped some of the later political events). It doesn’t seem like a huge number of people but many of them were highly specialized:

    In the Russo-Japanese War, for the first time, Latvians participated en masse in modern warfare as military personnel involved in the service of the Russian Army and Navy – officers, soldiers and sailors, military officials, paramedics and pharmacists, as well as priests.

    The impact of the war extended beyond the military sphere and permeated Latvian society. The war’s influence was evident in factors associated with the 1905 revolution. As early as 1904, the war’s events began shaping the trajectory of Latvian urban industry (for example, a large order for railway wagons was received by the “Fenikss” factory in Riga, where around 2000 workers worked).

    The war significantly activated the social democratic groups established in the previous years in the industrial centers of Riga, Liepāja, Jelgava and Daugavpils, which started anti-war propaganda, there was some cooperation between Latvian, Polish, Lithuanian and Belarusian social democrats, for example, they issued a joint anti-war proclamation, while emphasizing the fact of national oppression.

    Latvian left-wing political groups, unlike the radical wing of the Polish Socialist Party, did not, however, get involved in supporting Russia’s open enemy – Japan, although it was done by the prominent social democrat, editor of the newspaper “Struggle” Janis Jansons-Braun (in 07.01.1905, he reported from Liepāja to the General Staff of the Japanese Army about the activities of the Russian Navy).

    Recruitment

    In the Baltic governorates’ territory, multiple mobilizations of military personnel in the army reserve occurred, involving troops in local garrisons. Within the regiments stationed in the European part of Russia, a selection of officers was made through a lottery system, and these chosen officers were then deployed to the front in the Far East. Latvians were among those selected, with a notable concentration of officers of Latvian origin in the troops stationed in the Baltic and surrounding provinces.

    Troop units, mobilized reservists, armaments, military equipment, and supplementary food supplies were transported from the European part of Russia to the war zone exclusively through the Trans-Siberian railway. The journey along this vital transport artery spanned 5 to 6 weeks.

    Description of the Latvian contingent and their military activity

    A total of at least 179 officers of Latvian nationality (most in infantry units), as well as about 60-80 enlisted officers (praporshchiks) mainly in infantry units and artillery, about 60-80 paramedics, pharmacists and military officials, as well as 2,500-3,000 soldiers and sailors participated in the hostilities.

    The companies were commanded by about 40-50 officers of Latvian nationality, there were also many younger officers, and most of them were awarded with combat orders.

    Some Latvians also served in the artillery units at the front, and took part in the battle at Mukden, served as task officers for communications with the Port Arthur fortress in the Manchurian Army’s War Traffic Department. Some ran mobilization efforts.

    Captain astronomer Andrejs Auzans served in the topographers’ unit in the 2nd Manchurian War. Several Latvians held positions in structures that cared for the wounded: Lieutenant Vilhelms Kaminskis was the manager of the hospital in Khabarovsk; lieutenant Jānis Miglavs – manager of the infirmary of the 54th division; captain Jānis Krastiņš – manager of the 63rd mobile field hospital and others. The former police chief of Kwantun and Port Arthur, lieutenant colonel Indriķis Lediņš, performed special tasks during the war as the commander of a special troops unit, performing tasks related to intelligence.

    Latvian sailors were engaged in combat right from the outset of the war. In the initial weeks, a minimum of six Latvians lost their lives, with three casualties occurring on the sunken cruiser “Varyag.” Numerous Latvian sailors, totaling several hundred, served on the ships of the Pacific squadron either due to compulsory service or as part of their call-up for the Russo-Japanese War at the onset of the conflict.

    As in the ground forces, the Navy also had many soldiers and officers of Baltic-German origin.

    Latvian doctors, veterinary doctors, and pharmacists, whether conscripted, volunteers, or serving professionally in the army, participated in the war with Japan. This group included at least five professional army war doctors and approximately 40-50 doctors called up from the reserve. These medical professionals served in various capacities, including military units, infirmaries, hospitals, and Russian Red Cross medical institutions, where Latvian Sisters of Mercy were also present. Additionally, there were pharmacists contributing to the medical efforts at Port Arthur.

    The spiritual care of Latvian, German and Estonian Lutheran soldiers was carried out by Latvian pastors.

    About 200-250 Latvian soldiers and sailors died in the battles, including 12 officers. Many Baltic German officers died, too.

    There were many wounded and captured. Around 150-200 Latvian soldiers and sailors were captured, and were released at the end of 1905-1906. One of the soldiers saved the imperial monogram attached to the regimental flag during his captivity.

    The conflict with Japan marked the inaugural instance of substantial Latvian military participation in a 20th-century war. Latvians, including officers, military medics, pharmacists, and military officials, were actively involved. This engagement provided them with valuable exposure to modern combat, significantly influencing their career advancement. The experience gained in this conflict played a pivotal role in shaping the actions of Latvian soldiers during the subsequent First World War and the Latvian War of Independence.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Thanks dear, a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia, just like a lot of EEs were pro-Japan. This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Paul_Georg_von_M%C3%B6llendorff_%281847-1901%29.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Georg_von_Möllendorff

    Here's a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries


    In 1903, the Latvian Social Democratic Union of Western Europe, in cooperation with the Latvian Social Democrats of the USA, founded the Latvian Social Democratic Union (LSS), the majority of whose members lived in London and Switzerland and were led by Miķelis Valters and Ernests Rolavs. At the beginning of the 1905 Revolution, the party had many members in Latvia and in May the LSS had about 1000 members. Already in the summer of 1905, some members of the party began to attack the estates. Members of the LSS organised the illegal transport of literature and weapons from Western Europe to the Russian Empire, which involved members of the London branch of the LSS Juris Šenbergs, Ernest Augusts Minka, Vilis Štrauss and Captain Janis Treimanis[1].

    During the Russo-Japanese War, in March 1905, the Japanese War Ministry allocated 1 million yen for the purchase and delivery of arms to support the Russian Revolution.[2] The Japanese military attaché in Stockholm, Colonel Motojiro Akashi, took the money to London and handed it over to the "United Fighting Organisation" (UBO), which had been formed by Russian émigrés. As an employee of the Japanese Embassy in St Petersburg, he had already established contacts with Russian oppositionists, including the Finnish politician Konrad (Konni) Zilliacus in 1902.

    A member of the group posing as the wine merchant Robert Richard Dickenson bought the English steamer John Grafton, built in 1883. According to the testimony of the later Soviet diplomat Litvinov, arms were bought for 100 000 roubles and a plan was drawn up to ship them to several Finnish ports. Latvians Minka, Wagner, Strauss and Salniņš took part in the procurement of the weapons.
     

    https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graftona_avantūra

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @LatW, @LatW

  56. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry. Later it was Stalin who gave Kim the go-ahead and T-34s to invade ROK

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Soviet_Amphibious_Landing_Chongjin_1945.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seishin_Operation

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Kisabur%C5%8D_Ohara%2C_Europe_and_Asia_Octopus_Map%2C_1904_Cornell_CUL_PJM_1145_01.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @LatW

    I’d like to share this, too – a very beautiful South East Asian mandarin duck has appeared in Estonia, for some reason it has decided to spend the winter there. It really stands out.

    https://news.err.ee/1609192444/colorful-mandarin-duck-becomes-star-after-deciding-to-spend-winter-in-tartu

  57. @AP
    @Beckow


    …he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January

    Maybe till New Year if the war takes a break over Christmas
     
    He got $175 million a few weeks ago.

    There is $4.4 billion left that can still be given but has not been distributed yet.

    It is not sustainable. US has spent $110 billion so far on the Ukie aid, incl. paying salaries-pensions.
     
    Of course it has not spent $110 billion.

    A lot of that amount is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren't sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn't cash being sent.

    A lot of that amount is the cost of ammo being made at US factories. This is good for American workers in the heartland, and good for the US defense industry. It, too, isn't cash being sent to Ukraine.

    And here the total that Ukraine has gotten in equipment + cash has been $75 billion:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/us/politics/ukraine-us-military-aid.html#:~:text=Since%20Russia's%20February%202022%20invasion,and%20addressing%20its%20humanitarian%20needs.

    Since Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the Biden administration has sent more than $75 billion in cash and equipment to the country for its defense. Most of the aid has gone to Ukraine’s military operations, keeping its government running and addressing its humanitarian needs.

    Looks like the cash amount has been $26.4 billion.

    A little bit more than 10 Las Vegas spheres.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38U2q96OTg

    Or ten miles of New York subway:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-23/in-nyc-subway-a-case-study-in-runaway-transit-construction-costs

    Not much, all things considered, for wrecking much of Russia's military.

    What a f..ing waste, this will be studied for decades for the cosmic level stupidity.
     
    Russia did indeed do a stupid thing, for which both Russia and Ukraine are paying a steep price.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price. They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia (yes, it can be done) and treating all its people equally.

    Instead they chose to force a mono-Ukie-culture on all of Ukraine (“ban Russians!”), to join Nato and act as a forward base for Washington fanatics who constantly dream about dismantling or diminishing Russia. It had no chance of success – and now for the consequences.

    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.

    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU. That is a lot of cash…no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don’t ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen? Try to be logical for once…

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia – he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia’s wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia’s leases in Crimea. What could have been…but it is too late.

    • Agree: Mikhail, Wielgus
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    $200 million is Zelensky's severance payment! He will say some strange and creepy things in the build up to the New Year and Orthodox Christmas and then will be gone.

    Don't forget he is a professional actor (liar). There are no residuals on this gig so he has to get everything up front.

    He seems to have a lot of chutzpah so here is an alternative idea. Maybe he was offering his services to the Demonrats as a Biden replacement candidate. So what if he wasn't born here, votes don't count anyway...

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia – he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia’s wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia’s leases in Crimea. What could have been…but it is too late.
     
    Yanuk never securing a parliamentary majority fairly might have had something to do with why he was removed. But Yeah, look at Yanuk, he tried playing off both the EU and Russia against each other until he simply couldn't do it any longer, after which point his hold on power became untenable.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price.
     
    Russia has lost about 100k+ dead and counting, lots of military equipment, and an economy that is a lot worse than would have been otherwise.

    They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia
     
    When Ukraine pursued a neutral policy it was the second poorest country in Europe only Moldova, another country pursuing a neutral policy - was poorer.

    Ukraine was finally catching up after 2016, so Russia invaded.

    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.

    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU.
     
    The snippet you cut out referred specifically to the value of the equipment Ukraine was getting.

    This was the full paragraph that snippet came from:

    "A lot of that amount [aid] is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren’t sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent."

    no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don’t ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen?
     
    Do you have significant evidence of cash being stolen and/or removed in airplanes?

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.
     
    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

  58. Everyone in government, healthcare, mental healthcare, big pharma, the media, academia, the scientific community, the surveillance state, the military, the financial sector, and the technology sector have all developed dissociative disorder and alter egos. How long is this sick evil, sadistic charade going to continue for? I am mad as hell about it! Who in the hell do they think they are?! They expect us to value their lives and families more than we value our own lives and families. Not only do they demand to get away with it, they demand to be treated with respect when they have acted in the most unrespectable possible way by perpetrating crimes against humanity, treason, terrorism, medical fraud, pre-meditated mal practice, organized crime, financial fraud, and mass murder and mass theft! No. I refuse to forgive them for their Ted Bundy Manson Family lifestyles! They are not worth sacrificing anything for, not worth suffering for, and are unworthy of being forgiven! It will only encourage them! They are using their families as human shields for their evil, illegal predatory lifestyles! They are using Marxist subversive tactics of terrorism, sabotage, and mass murder in their cowardly undeclared war on us. They are evil, narcissistic spoiled rotten brats that must be held legally accountable for their monstrouus crimes and reckless and careless disregard! Apparently it is their plan to keep terrorizing us. If we consent to it, they will just keep doing it. They believe that they are above the law, above criticism, and above accountability!

  59. @Beckow
    @AP

    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price. They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia (yes, it can be done) and treating all its people equally.

    Instead they chose to force a mono-Ukie-culture on all of Ukraine ("ban Russians!"), to join Nato and act as a forward base for Washington fanatics who constantly dream about dismantling or diminishing Russia. It had no chance of success - and now for the consequences.


    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.
     
    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU. That is a lot of cash...no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don't ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen? Try to be logical for once...

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia - he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia's wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia's leases in Crimea. What could have been...but it is too late.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    $200 million is Zelensky’s severance payment! He will say some strange and creepy things in the build up to the New Year and Orthodox Christmas and then will be gone.

    Don’t forget he is a professional actor (liar). There are no residuals on this gig so he has to get everything up front.

    He seems to have a lot of chutzpah so here is an alternative idea. Maybe he was offering his services to the Demonrats as a Biden replacement candidate. So what if he wasn’t born here, votes don’t count anyway…

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @QCIC

    My sense is the visit to Washington was improvised, they are now making it up day-by-day. Nato knows that Ukies can't hold militarily in the long run but they lack the B team to negotiate a face-saving climb down. (Where is the fat German Frau when you need her?)

    Everyone is positioning for the coming blame game: not enough weapons, bad execution of the offensive, Israel-Gaza, US internal politics - the ghost of Trump, Euros lacking martial spirit and fickleness... Zelko wanted to see the capo di tutti capi in person: he knows there is the Western public posture and there is the reality - but what's the timing...and are they really sending him to Argentina?

    The problem is that Zelko and his entourage anywhere in the West after the war could be embarrassing: interviews, recriminations, where did all the money go...but Argentina looks so post-WW2 Nazi like...it is a mess...

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Mikhail

  60. @Beckow
    @AP

    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price. They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia (yes, it can be done) and treating all its people equally.

    Instead they chose to force a mono-Ukie-culture on all of Ukraine ("ban Russians!"), to join Nato and act as a forward base for Washington fanatics who constantly dream about dismantling or diminishing Russia. It had no chance of success - and now for the consequences.


    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.
     
    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU. That is a lot of cash...no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don't ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen? Try to be logical for once...

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia - he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia's wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia's leases in Crimea. What could have been...but it is too late.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia – he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia’s wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia’s leases in Crimea. What could have been…but it is too late.

    Yanuk never securing a parliamentary majority fairly might have had something to do with why he was removed. But Yeah, look at Yanuk, he tried playing off both the EU and Russia against each other until he simply couldn’t do it any longer, after which point his hold on power became untenable.

    • Disagree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    Nothing in politics is done fairly...so that is a complete non-sequitur.


    ...he tried playing off both the EU and Russia against each other until he simply couldn’t do it any longer
     
    There is some truth to that - it got to the point that EU had to talk to Russia and they refused. If EU had actual brains (and independence) a three-way deal could had been negotiated and we would have avoided all the painful nonsense. But it looks like Brussels wanted a crisis, they wanted to put Kiev in a no-win dilemma and force them to cut all trade links to Russia.

    Brussels (=Nato) hoped to bluff Russia. If Russia had stayed quiet it would have worked. Or alternatively Brussels wanted a war between Ukraine and Russia. Now they have the war and are losing it. As always EU has no idea what to do - the combination of complete subservience to Washington and the mid-wit stupidity can be fatal. They are only a few steps behind Ukraine. (But they got great truffles and damn reality...)

  61. @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    Not really that hard to build a solid rocket.

    Persians and others were doing it 800 years ago, with gunpowder.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Sending a man into space is much, much harder, no?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. XYZ

    The hull of a rocket is not unlike that of a grain silo or submarine. A solid fuel rocket has very few moving parts, maybe the gimbal. If one doesn't attempt a spacewalk, no need for any really sophisticated engineering.

    I would say that it was more difficult to build the Kowsar.

    I think the reason that more countries haven't sent men into space is a mix of political and economic. But not much to do with the technical. On the low end - just getting a man into space in cramped quarters - it seems like a fairly low hurdle to clear, for any industrial country with some scale, IMO.

  62. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia – he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia’s wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia’s leases in Crimea. What could have been…but it is too late.
     
    Yanuk never securing a parliamentary majority fairly might have had something to do with why he was removed. But Yeah, look at Yanuk, he tried playing off both the EU and Russia against each other until he simply couldn't do it any longer, after which point his hold on power became untenable.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Nothing in politics is done fairly...so that is a complete non-sequitur.

    …he tried playing off both the EU and Russia against each other until he simply couldn’t do it any longer

    There is some truth to that – it got to the point that EU had to talk to Russia and they refused. If EU had actual brains (and independence) a three-way deal could had been negotiated and we would have avoided all the painful nonsense. But it looks like Brussels wanted a crisis, they wanted to put Kiev in a no-win dilemma and force them to cut all trade links to Russia.

    Brussels (=Nato) hoped to bluff Russia. If Russia had stayed quiet it would have worked. Or alternatively Brussels wanted a war between Ukraine and Russia. Now they have the war and are losing it. As always EU has no idea what to do – the combination of complete subservience to Washington and the mid-wit stupidity can be fatal. They are only a few steps behind Ukraine. (But they got great truffles and damn reality…)

  63. @A123
    Zero for Zelensky: (1)

    Zelensky Leaves Empty-Handed -- McConnell Admits Ukraine Aid Talks Going Nowhere, Punts to January

     

    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky will come up empty in his latest swing through the U.S. Capitol.

    Negotiations on additional American aid to Ukraine paired with a border security package are dead for 2023, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reportedly told his fellow Senate Republicans at their weekly lunch Tuesday.
    ...
    Earlier Tuesday, Zelensky met individually with Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA). Afterward, Johnson reiterated his position that the White House and Senate must get serious about securing the border before any additional aid to Ukraine can be considered, arguing that the Biden administration has failed to outline clear goals in further assisting Ukraine’s war against Russia.

    “We need a clear articulation of the strategy,” he said.
     
    Forever Wars can come back like Nosferatu, so I do not want to declare permanent victory. However, McConnell's open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America's national prestige and honour.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/12/zelensky-leaves-empty-handed-mcconnell-admits-ukraine-aid-talks-going-nowhere-punts-to-january/

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel, @Mr. Hack

    However, McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.

    What national prestige and honor? From propping up Ukraine and being its largest supporter to doing an abrupt about face and letting it flounder to the financial might of the greatest gas station in the world? The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world. It will equally look like a cowardly nation not worth the ink that it signs in any future agreements, think Budapest Memorandum.

    2-3 months of closer deliberations in the congress should result in a clearer path of Ukrainian support. It aint over till the fat lady sings!

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    leader (USA) of the free world,
     
    What free world? The one, where the US military bases are present? Those are not sovereign or free countries.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikel
    @Mr. Hack


    The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world.
     
    All things considered, I consider the US to be the greatest country in the world but other than Israel and perhaps South Korea, I don't know who else may consider it today to be a very reliable ally.

    If your independence depends on the US continuing to support you indefinitely, you can't really say that you are an independent country. Apart from the possibility of American internal politics leading to the US doing a Kabul or a Saigon on you, your own internal politics are going to be scrutinized so that you comply with US norms that may not be part of your culture at all. I would certainly hate my country to be a Russian puppet. Just look at repressive and impoverished Belarus. But I don't think the Russians care about shoving any particular ideology down anybody's throat these days as much as the American Establishment does. Being such a great country inevitably led the US to become a superpower but sadly, that meant abandoning the non-interventionist spirit of earlier times.

    If I was a Ukrainian military leader I would have serious contingency plans for the possibility of having to face Russia with no military help from the US. Regardless of my thoughts about the tragedy that started in 2014, the Ukrainian military has shown a great deal of competence while the Russians have proven to be weaker and less competent than anybody thought. However, at the end of the day Russia continues to be a huge country with vast human and material resources and capable of fielding many advanced lethal weapons. Everybody should have done much more to avoid this tragic war. Starting by not killing so many of their civilian co-ethnics, as I'll never tire to repeat.

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

  64. @Mr. XYZ
    @songbird

    Sending a man into space is much, much harder, no?

    Replies: @songbird

    The hull of a rocket is not unlike that of a grain silo or submarine. A solid fuel rocket has very few moving parts, maybe the gimbal. If one doesn’t attempt a spacewalk, no need for any really sophisticated engineering.

    [MORE]

    I would say that it was more difficult to build the Kowsar.

    I think the reason that more countries haven’t sent men into space is a mix of political and economic. But not much to do with the technical. On the low end – just getting a man into space in cramped quarters – it seems like a fairly low hurdle to clear, for any industrial country with some scale, IMO.

  65. @Beckow
    @AP

    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price. They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia (yes, it can be done) and treating all its people equally.

    Instead they chose to force a mono-Ukie-culture on all of Ukraine ("ban Russians!"), to join Nato and act as a forward base for Washington fanatics who constantly dream about dismantling or diminishing Russia. It had no chance of success - and now for the consequences.


    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.
     
    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU. That is a lot of cash...no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don't ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen? Try to be logical for once...

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each. He was pro-Ukrainian and not pro-EU or pro-Russia - he spent 3 years negotiating with EU against Russia's wishes! He probably stole less than the people who came after him. Yanuk was removed because he was anti-Nato and extended Russia's leases in Crimea. What could have been...but it is too late.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price.

    Russia has lost about 100k+ dead and counting, lots of military equipment, and an economy that is a lot worse than would have been otherwise.

    They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia

    When Ukraine pursued a neutral policy it was the second poorest country in Europe only Moldova, another country pursuing a neutral policy – was poorer.

    Ukraine was finally catching up after 2016, so Russia invaded.

    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.

    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU.

    The snippet you cut out referred specifically to the value of the equipment Ukraine was getting.

    This was the full paragraph that snippet came from:

    “A lot of that amount [aid] is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren’t sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.”

    no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don’t ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen?

    Do you have significant evidence of cash being stolen and/or removed in airplanes?

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.

    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.

    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).
     

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash - how much was stolen? Was it significant to you? Your tales about "over-valued" weapons change nothing; it is true, but it came out of a different aid bucket. $40 billion was in cash assistance - money sent over to "assist"...

    If you believe that Russia lost "100k" soldiers, how many did Kiev lose? Or is it 10k as you once claimed? Well, then the Ukies must be real supermen...but that doesn't explain how they ruined their country after 1991 and then lost the war they didn't have to fight. Something here doesn't add up...

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

     

    Those Ukrainians who wanted to move towards Russia would have been better off not voting for Ukrainian independence back in 1991. Much less suffering that way. The raison d'etre of Ukrainian independence was to eventually join the European Union, which ultimately is much more impressive than the Soviet Union was anyway (many more people of higher average quality).
  66. @A123
    @AP


    It wasn’t zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.
     
    😆 ROTFLMAO 😁 -- Kiev aggression burns over €1 Billion/week. At best, Zelensky received 2 days of funding. At worst, it is aging shelf stock that has no use other than resale on the black market.

    January is when the TALKS will restart. The next OPPORTUNITY for non-trivial funding is February or March. Is it possible that some money may wind up in a bill? Yes. However, it would be a tiny fraction of what Kiev aggression wants. The Veggie-in-Chief's team is focusing on U.S. elections, where Ukie extremism is a liability.

    Please answer this question directly:

    Will Germany & France pony up an ADDITIONAL €3-5 Billion/month?

    Scholz is in the midst of an epic budget crisis. Macron had a catastrophic legislative failure and could face a no confidence vote. EU puppet masters are dangling their flailing Zelensky on visibly tangled strings.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

    It wasn’t zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😁 —

    You said he got zero.

    Is $200 million zero?

    Kiev aggression burns over €1 Billion/week.

    With some creative accounting.

    At worst, it is aging shelf stock that has no use other than resale on the black market.

    That stuff is rather effective at killing Russian invaders though.

    January is when the TALKS will restart

    And in the meantime more will be taken from the remaining $4.4 billion set aside.

    Please answer this question directly:

    Will Germany & France pony up an ADDITIONAL €3-5 Billion/month?

    Who knows? Hungary is holding up a $50 billion aid package. Hopefully it gets through eventually. They will simply have to bribe Orban.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @A123
    @AP



    Zelensky Leaves Empty-Handed — McConnell Admits Ukraine Aid Talks Going Nowhere, Punts to January

     

    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky will come up empty in his latest swing through the U.S. Capitol.

    Negotiations on additional American aid to Ukraine paired with a border security package are dead for 2023, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reportedly told his fellow Senate Republicans at their weekly lunch Tuesday.
     

    You said he got zero.

    Is $200 million zero?
     

    What I said was that Zelensky received zero from CONGRESS in new appropriations. This meaning was obvious to those familiar with U.S. government. I referenced SENATOR McConnell by name, and his capitulation in the CONGRESSIONAL appropriations process.

    I repeated the quote for you again, with the obvious points in bold so you do not miss painfully obvious facts about the objectively true & obvious facts again.

    Stating that the executive branch released a dribble from a previous appropriation badly misses the actual and incredibly obvious factual point I made about CONGRESS and new funding.

    Is zero in NEW congressional appropriation $200M?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

  67. @Mikel
    @A123


    McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.
     
    Even more impressive is Lindsey Graham saying that he won't support the Ukraine aid package without a compromise on the border. This is the guy who used to tour Ukrainian military bases even before the war had started and harangue soldiers fighting the pro-Russians saying that "your fight is our fight".

    I may not buy a used car from him but Gaetz is now one of my political heroes. His rebellion shook the party like nothing since Trump's appearance.

    I still think they will all cave in eventually and Ukraine will get a hefty package without anyone fixing anything of consequence on the border. But I wouldn't have predicted this a few months ago.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

    I may not buy a used car from him but Gaetz is now one of my political heroes

    Of course he is.

  68. @Mikel
    @A123


    McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.
     
    Even more impressive is Lindsey Graham saying that he won't support the Ukraine aid package without a compromise on the border. This is the guy who used to tour Ukrainian military bases even before the war had started and harangue soldiers fighting the pro-Russians saying that "your fight is our fight".

    I may not buy a used car from him but Gaetz is now one of my political heroes. His rebellion shook the party like nothing since Trump's appearance.

    I still think they will all cave in eventually and Ukraine will get a hefty package without anyone fixing anything of consequence on the border. But I wouldn't have predicted this a few months ago.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

  69. @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    However, McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.
     
    What national prestige and honor? From propping up Ukraine and being its largest supporter to doing an abrupt about face and letting it flounder to the financial might of the greatest gas station in the world? The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world. It will equally look like a cowardly nation not worth the ink that it signs in any future agreements, think Budapest Memorandum.

    2-3 months of closer deliberations in the congress should result in a clearer path of Ukrainian support. It aint over till the fat lady sings!

    Replies: @Derer, @Mikel

    leader (USA) of the free world,

    What free world? The one, where the US military bases are present? Those are not sovereign or free countries.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    And everyone of them would cry bloody murder if the US closed down any base and left. All bases are the source of business opportunities and jobs for the locals. Name even one of these host countries that wants the US to go?

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Derer

  70. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    $200 million is Zelensky's severance payment! He will say some strange and creepy things in the build up to the New Year and Orthodox Christmas and then will be gone.

    Don't forget he is a professional actor (liar). There are no residuals on this gig so he has to get everything up front.

    He seems to have a lot of chutzpah so here is an alternative idea. Maybe he was offering his services to the Demonrats as a Biden replacement candidate. So what if he wasn't born here, votes don't count anyway...

    Replies: @Beckow

    My sense is the visit to Washington was improvised, they are now making it up day-by-day. Nato knows that Ukies can’t hold militarily in the long run but they lack the B team to negotiate a face-saving climb down. (Where is the fat German Frau when you need her?)

    Everyone is positioning for the coming blame game: not enough weapons, bad execution of the offensive, Israel-Gaza, US internal politics – the ghost of Trump, Euros lacking martial spirit and fickleness… Zelko wanted to see the capo di tutti capi in person: he knows there is the Western public posture and there is the reality – but what’s the timing…and are they really sending him to Argentina?

    The problem is that Zelko and his entourage anywhere in the West after the war could be embarrassing: interviews, recriminations, where did all the money go…but Argentina looks so post-WW2 Nazi like…it is a mess…

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Beckow

    Not really, Argentina looks more like present day Ukraine or 90s Russia, very much oligarch dominated. Hopefully Millei will do some good, can't do any worse. Argentina has a lot of mineral wealth, they should exploit that and generate some wealth, as the more successful Latin American countries do.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    https://www.rt.com/russia/588976-zelensky-no-village-lost/

  71. @AP
    @Beckow


    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price.
     
    Russia has lost about 100k+ dead and counting, lots of military equipment, and an economy that is a lot worse than would have been otherwise.

    They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia
     
    When Ukraine pursued a neutral policy it was the second poorest country in Europe only Moldova, another country pursuing a neutral policy - was poorer.

    Ukraine was finally catching up after 2016, so Russia invaded.

    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.

    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU.
     
    The snippet you cut out referred specifically to the value of the equipment Ukraine was getting.

    This was the full paragraph that snippet came from:

    "A lot of that amount [aid] is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren’t sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent."

    no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don’t ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen?
     
    Do you have significant evidence of cash being stolen and/or removed in airplanes?

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.
     
    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    …In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.

    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash – how much was stolen? Was it significant to you? Your tales about “over-valued” weapons change nothing; it is true, but it came out of a different aid bucket. $40 billion was in cash assistance – money sent over to “assist”…

    If you believe that Russia lost “100k” soldiers, how many did Kiev lose? Or is it 10k as you once claimed? Well, then the Ukies must be real supermen…but that doesn’t explain how they ruined their country after 1991 and then lost the war they didn’t have to fight. Something here doesn’t add up…

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    The Slavs have tragically lost a lot of good men.

    It may be too early to determine how the sanctions have changed Russia's economy. The widespread import substitution could be the kick the economy needed. Also the SMO politics may have loosened the grip of some Russian oligarchs. On the other hand, these things may push Russia back to more of a centrally planned economy. In the short run (now to three years) they seem better off.

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.
     
    The Sovoks such as Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash – how much was stolen? Was it significant to you
     
    I asked you for evidence that a significant portion of the $40 billion in cash assistance was stolen.

    You provided none.

    You want a number? Well, 1% would be significant. Any evidence of $400 million having been stolen? Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft, surely it would be easy to find evidence of that.

    If you believe that Russia lost “100k” soldiers, how
     
    How many do you think Russia has lost since the invasion started in February 2022?

    Or is it 10k as you once claimed?

     

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war (unless I mentioned such a number in early 2022, don’t recall).

    but that doesn’t explain how they ruined their country after 1991
     
    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West. This was when the country fell behind. The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Beckow

  72. @YetAnotherAnon
    @anyone with a brain

    It took a much bigger tumble from 60k dollars two years ago, this time last year it was $16k. 40k now, so it would have been a nice Christmas present last year, and a bad one the year before.

    ETH has halved in dollar terms since Christmas 2021 as well.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @LondonBob

    A lot of the alt coins are worthless now, as they all are ultimately. Also have to remember that a lot of people have had their ‘coins’ stolen too.

    Interesting question is who invented bitcoin, I would guess either the intelligence agencies, I think the hash things was patented by the NSA, or Paul Le Roux. Bitcoin has a purpose as such, Nikolai Mushegian was right, so I guess it will hang around.

  73. @Beckow
    @QCIC

    My sense is the visit to Washington was improvised, they are now making it up day-by-day. Nato knows that Ukies can't hold militarily in the long run but they lack the B team to negotiate a face-saving climb down. (Where is the fat German Frau when you need her?)

    Everyone is positioning for the coming blame game: not enough weapons, bad execution of the offensive, Israel-Gaza, US internal politics - the ghost of Trump, Euros lacking martial spirit and fickleness... Zelko wanted to see the capo di tutti capi in person: he knows there is the Western public posture and there is the reality - but what's the timing...and are they really sending him to Argentina?

    The problem is that Zelko and his entourage anywhere in the West after the war could be embarrassing: interviews, recriminations, where did all the money go...but Argentina looks so post-WW2 Nazi like...it is a mess...

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Mikhail

    Not really, Argentina looks more like present day Ukraine or 90s Russia, very much oligarch dominated. Hopefully Millei will do some good, can’t do any worse. Argentina has a lot of mineral wealth, they should exploit that and generate some wealth, as the more successful Latin American countries do.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @LondonBob


    Hopefully Millei will do some good, can’t do any worse.
     
    Russian joke:
    The pessimist says:
    - Everything is so bad, it cannot get any worse.
    The optimist replies:
    - But surely it can!

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  74. Couple of hundred dead and several thousand wounded, a high proportion of which are seriously, Israel paying a heavy price for their attempted genocide.

  75. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack


    leader (USA) of the free world,
     
    What free world? The one, where the US military bases are present? Those are not sovereign or free countries.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    And everyone of them would cry bloody murder if the US closed down any base and left. All bases are the source of business opportunities and jobs for the locals. Name even one of these host countries that wants the US to go?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Iraq. Syria.

    The Anpo protests in Japan were pretty massive.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anpo_protests

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    The French gave them the boot and the Germans, Dutch, Norwegians, British, Italians, and Spaniards would give them the boot after 30 seconds of deliberation if the people had anything to say about it.

    Are you drunk?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Most important is Germany or Japan. Those 50k American soldiers in Germany are not there to protect Germany but to put out any sign of anti-Americanism. Russians left East Germany and unified the nation, while London and Paris objected. Where is the prove of your suggested pathetic hypocrisy?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  76. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    And everyone of them would cry bloody murder if the US closed down any base and left. All bases are the source of business opportunities and jobs for the locals. Name even one of these host countries that wants the US to go?

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Derer

    Iraq. Syria.

    The Anpo protests in Japan were pretty massive.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Let me help you out, there were some protests in Japan just a few years back. A couple of soldiers got drunk and "raped" a woman during their night out on the town, Although a despicable act, so what? A couple of protests over the last 75 years in over 600 bases, all related to drunk and misbehaving servicemen? Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.

    Replies: @songbird

  77. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    Iraq. Syria.

    The Anpo protests in Japan were pretty massive.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anpo_protests

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Let me help you out, there were some protests in Japan just a few years back. A couple of soldiers got drunk and “raped” a woman during their night out on the town, Although a despicable act, so what? A couple of protests over the last 75 years in over 600 bases, all related to drunk and misbehaving servicemen? Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    A couple of soldiers got drunk and “raped” a woman during their night out on the town
     
    LMAO. Why are you putting it in quotation marks? IIRC there's been a couple of incidents, including these two with corpuses delicti:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okinawa_rape_incident
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42192571


    But you're being overly reductive. There are many reasons not to want US troops around beyond these incidents (including if you are American), and I don't think it's the main motivation for many.

    Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.
     
    surely, a straw man. Many EEs probably want more US bases. Likely as do some of these these very small states, like Qatar or Djibouti.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  78. @AP
    @A123


    It wasn’t zero, he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January in terms of US aid.

    😆 ROTFLMAO 😁 —
     
    You said he got zero.

    Is $200 million zero?

    Kiev aggression burns over €1 Billion/week.
     
    With some creative accounting.

    At worst, it is aging shelf stock that has no use other than resale on the black market.
     
    That stuff is rather effective at killing Russian invaders though.

    January is when the TALKS will restart
     
    And in the meantime more will be taken from the remaining $4.4 billion set aside.

    Please answer this question directly:

    Will Germany & France pony up an ADDITIONAL €3-5 Billion/month?
     
    Who knows? Hungary is holding up a $50 billion aid package. Hopefully it gets through eventually. They will simply have to bribe Orban.

    Replies: @A123

    Zelensky Leaves Empty-Handed — McConnell Admits Ukraine Aid Talks Going Nowhere, Punts to January

    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky will come up empty in his latest swing through the U.S. Capitol.

    Negotiations on additional American aid to Ukraine paired with a border security package are dead for 2023, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reportedly told his fellow Senate Republicans at their weekly lunch Tuesday.

    You said he got zero.

    Is $200 million zero?

    What I said was that Zelensky received zero from CONGRESS in new appropriations. This meaning was obvious to those familiar with U.S. government. I referenced SENATOR McConnell by name, and his capitulation in the CONGRESSIONAL appropriations process.

    I repeated the quote for you again, with the obvious points in bold so you do not miss painfully obvious facts about the objectively true & obvious facts again.

    Stating that the executive branch released a dribble from a previous appropriation badly misses the actual and incredibly obvious factual point I made about CONGRESS and new funding.

    Is zero in NEW congressional appropriation $200M?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AP
    @A123


    What I said was that Zelensky received zero from CONGRESS in new appropriations
     
    Your words were “Zero for Zelensky.”

    If you had stated what you state now, you would have been correct.

    But you did not state that Zelensky received zero in new appropriations.

    The excerpt from Foxnews contradicted your statement; the footnote did not match the claim.

    Good that you have revised and clarified your statement to reflect what had actually occurred.

    Zelensky did not get a deal for 2023 for anything, but did receive a $200 million tranche from the $4.6 billion (now $4.4 billion) still remaining.

    Replies: @A123

  79. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.

    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).
     

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash - how much was stolen? Was it significant to you? Your tales about "over-valued" weapons change nothing; it is true, but it came out of a different aid bucket. $40 billion was in cash assistance - money sent over to "assist"...

    If you believe that Russia lost "100k" soldiers, how many did Kiev lose? Or is it 10k as you once claimed? Well, then the Ukies must be real supermen...but that doesn't explain how they ruined their country after 1991 and then lost the war they didn't have to fight. Something here doesn't add up...

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    The Slavs have tragically lost a lot of good men.

    It may be too early to determine how the sanctions have changed Russia’s economy. The widespread import substitution could be the kick the economy needed. Also the SMO politics may have loosened the grip of some Russian oligarchs. On the other hand, these things may push Russia back to more of a centrally planned economy. In the short run (now to three years) they seem better off.

  80. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.

    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).
     

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash - how much was stolen? Was it significant to you? Your tales about "over-valued" weapons change nothing; it is true, but it came out of a different aid bucket. $40 billion was in cash assistance - money sent over to "assist"...

    If you believe that Russia lost "100k" soldiers, how many did Kiev lose? Or is it 10k as you once claimed? Well, then the Ukies must be real supermen...but that doesn't explain how they ruined their country after 1991 and then lost the war they didn't have to fight. Something here doesn't add up...

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.

    The Sovoks such as Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash – how much was stolen? Was it significant to you

    I asked you for evidence that a significant portion of the $40 billion in cash assistance was stolen.

    You provided none.

    You want a number? Well, 1% would be significant. Any evidence of $400 million having been stolen? Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft, surely it would be easy to find evidence of that.

    If you believe that Russia lost “100k” soldiers, how

    How many do you think Russia has lost since the invasion started in February 2022?

    Or is it 10k as you once claimed?

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war (unless I mentioned such a number in early 2022, don’t recall).

    but that doesn’t explain how they ruined their country after 1991

    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West. This was when the country fell behind. The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    The Sovoks such as Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

     

    Was Kravchuk not a Sovok as well?

    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West. This was when the country fell behind. The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

     

    To be fair, virtually all of Ukraine outside of the far west voted for Kravchuk in 1991. They should have voted for Chornovil if they wanted the post-Communist transition to be led by someone who wasn't a Sovok.

    I think that this is the central issue here: That a lot of Ukrainians wanted independence in 1991 in the hope of a much better quality of life for themselves but were still determined to vote for Sovoks for a while. Central Ukraine stopped voting for Sovoks first (early 2000s), of course.
    , @LatW
    @AP


    The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.
     
    "Russia never forgives friendship with her," says Ayder Muzhdabayev (a Crimean (Krimchak) critic of the Kremlin).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @AnonfromTN

    , @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.
     
    So according to you Porky, Timoshenko and the endless oligarchs on Maidan never stole anything? That's why we think of you as a bit retarded, keep it up.

    "Evidence"? Can you put 2 and 2 together? Zelko's sponsor Kolomoisky is in jail for a few hundred million he swiped, defense minister was caught red-handed and resigned, Porky and the Kiev "better people" are shopping London, Vienna, Geneva...like there is no tomorrow...buying palaces in Florida. Enough?

    40 billion in cash was sent with no audit - US Congress words, not mine...cars with bags of cash stopped on the border, there are videos..do you want a taped confession? Is that your standard every time corruption takes place around the world? (do you work for Biden?)


    Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft
     
    They have and media mostly ignores it. We are in a war, these things are trifles and the powers in the West ordered that the media focus on winning the war - anything that would undermine the narrative has been put on ice...Wars are best time for corruption, motivation is sky-high: free money, no future in Ukraine, minimal oversight, welcome mat in the West...is that too complicated for you? but we understand that you have a mind of 10-year old (Viva Habsburgs!!!).

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war
     
    You did couple months ago...with you usual weasel provisos. But ok, if not 10k or 100k (or 300k that I think is exaggerated) - what is your estimate of Ukie casualties in the war? And also, was it worth it? What has it accomplished?

    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West.
     
    Ukraine pledged by the Budapest treaty to be neutral. They first broke that with Yushenko - remember the Orange loser with 5% approval in 2010? - then with Maidan. If you swear neutrality and then try to join Nato, you are by definition in violation of everything - all the lame talk today intentionally leaves that out.

    It was Kiev that first bombed and is still bombing Donbas - their own citizens!!! There are 5 million people there, the losses have been less than 1%, they will survive it. But I suspect they will forever remember what you crazy Galician quasi-Nazis did to them. If they ever make it to Kiev or Lviv, it will be ugly. But you don't care about them - you even suggested that millions of Russian who have lived in that region that became a part of Ukraine should leave. Quite extraordinary to openly call for what would be a genocide. But you guys are so narcissistic you are unable to see it. "Russians?" Damn, anything can be done to them, no rules apply - right?

    Replies: @AP

  81. @A123
    @AP



    Zelensky Leaves Empty-Handed — McConnell Admits Ukraine Aid Talks Going Nowhere, Punts to January

     

    Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky will come up empty in his latest swing through the U.S. Capitol.

    Negotiations on additional American aid to Ukraine paired with a border security package are dead for 2023, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) reportedly told his fellow Senate Republicans at their weekly lunch Tuesday.
     

    You said he got zero.

    Is $200 million zero?
     

    What I said was that Zelensky received zero from CONGRESS in new appropriations. This meaning was obvious to those familiar with U.S. government. I referenced SENATOR McConnell by name, and his capitulation in the CONGRESSIONAL appropriations process.

    I repeated the quote for you again, with the obvious points in bold so you do not miss painfully obvious facts about the objectively true & obvious facts again.

    Stating that the executive branch released a dribble from a previous appropriation badly misses the actual and incredibly obvious factual point I made about CONGRESS and new funding.

    Is zero in NEW congressional appropriation $200M?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

    What I said was that Zelensky received zero from CONGRESS in new appropriations

    Your words were “Zero for Zelensky.”

    If you had stated what you state now, you would have been correct.

    But you did not state that Zelensky received zero in new appropriations.

    The excerpt from Foxnews contradicted your statement; the footnote did not match the claim.

    Good that you have revised and clarified your statement to reflect what had actually occurred.

    Zelensky did not get a deal for 2023 for anything, but did receive a $200 million tranche from the $4.6 billion (now $4.4 billion) still remaining.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AP

    I accept your apology.

    Thank you for retracting your attempt to revise my original accurate statement. Your admission that my original intent was obvious, clear, and accurate is appreciated.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

  82. @AP
    @A123


    What I said was that Zelensky received zero from CONGRESS in new appropriations
     
    Your words were “Zero for Zelensky.”

    If you had stated what you state now, you would have been correct.

    But you did not state that Zelensky received zero in new appropriations.

    The excerpt from Foxnews contradicted your statement; the footnote did not match the claim.

    Good that you have revised and clarified your statement to reflect what had actually occurred.

    Zelensky did not get a deal for 2023 for anything, but did receive a $200 million tranche from the $4.6 billion (now $4.4 billion) still remaining.

    Replies: @A123

    I accept your apology.

    Thank you for retracting your attempt to revise my original accurate statement. Your admission that my original intent was obvious, clear, and accurate is appreciated.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AP
    @A123

    You misstated your point originally (your statement that Zelensky got zero was incorrect, and wasn’t supported by the information in the footnote), but then provided an accurate correction. Good for you for not doubling down. I give credit where credit is due.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Mikel
    @A123


    I accept your apology.
     
    I also accept AP's apology to you. One needs to be magnanimous always.

    However, you may have been too quick to accept AP's idea that the US is not really spending so much on Ukraine after all. This is a line that he's kept repeating for months now so there is no hope that he'll abandon it. He'd rather spend sleepless nights defending it post after post with a hundred graphs. But it doesn't make any sense. On the one hand, it implies that the Biden Administration could send much lower appropriations requests to Congress by just using a more accurate accounting method with all those depreciated stocks but for some strange reason prefers to inflate the numbers and make the requests even more unlikely to succeed. Impossible to believe.

    On the other hand, it doesn't even matter. Once Congress approves an appropriations bill it adds to the existing deficit that needs to be compensated either through increased taxes or through increased debt (as long as demand for the gargantuan US debt continues to exist), the interests of which we also have to pay with our taxes. In other words, some 1% of Americans working in the defense sector get richer with a part of those huge aid packages by virtue of Biden taking money out of the pockets of most of us here in this blog but we should feel grateful about it lol.

    Replies: @AP

  83. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Let me help you out, there were some protests in Japan just a few years back. A couple of soldiers got drunk and "raped" a woman during their night out on the town, Although a despicable act, so what? A couple of protests over the last 75 years in over 600 bases, all related to drunk and misbehaving servicemen? Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.

    Replies: @songbird

    A couple of soldiers got drunk and “raped” a woman during their night out on the town

    LMAO. Why are you putting it in quotation marks? IIRC there’s been a couple of incidents, including these two with corpuses delicti:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okinawa_rape_incident
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42192571

    But you’re being overly reductive. There are many reasons not to want US troops around beyond these incidents (including if you are American), and I don’t think it’s the main motivation for many.

    Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.

    surely, a straw man. Many EEs probably want more US bases. Likely as do some of these these very small states, like Qatar or Djibouti.

    • Thanks: S
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I wasn't sure what exactly the charges were and if they were indeed proven. I was going on my recollections, and didn't have any time to research the issue. "Straw man" how so?

    Replies: @songbird

  84. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    And everyone of them would cry bloody murder if the US closed down any base and left. All bases are the source of business opportunities and jobs for the locals. Name even one of these host countries that wants the US to go?

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Derer

    The French gave them the boot and the Germans, Dutch, Norwegians, British, Italians, and Spaniards would give them the boot after 30 seconds of deliberation if the people had anything to say about it.

    Are you drunk?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Well, goes to show you that the US does not force countries to accept their bases, although I'm sure pressure and some dealing goes on behind the scenes, with those that acquiesce. I'm not aware of the situation in Spain...have their been demonstrations against the base there by the local population?

  85. @Mr. XYZ
    I've got an alternate history question for AP: In the event that WWI does not break out in 1914 (Franz Ferdinand lives), would it be possible for Russia to attack the Ottoman Empire again sometime down the line? And, if so, could Germany and Austria-Hungary arm the Ottomans enough and build up the Ottoman military enough up to the point that the Ottoman military can do to Russia what Ukraine did to Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War in real life? As in, ensure that Russia walks away with nothing other than some modest gains, but with the core of the Ottoman Empire remaining intact and with the Ottoman Empire itself remaining very strong.

    (Note: During WWI in real life, the Ottoman Empire was not that strong. But if the Ottoman Empire will aggressively build up its military with the help of the Germanic powers over the next 10-15 years or more, then it could be in a much better position in a future hypothetical war against Russia. Russia would have also aggressively trounced Ukraine in 2014 in real life, after all. But by 2022, it couldn't even conquer Kharkiv or Odessa or Mykolayiv or hold onto Kherson.)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP

    I’ve got an alternate history question for AP: In the event that WWI does not break out in 1914 (Franz Ferdinand lives), would it be possible for Russia to attack the Ottoman Empire again sometime down the line

    I think there’s something to be said for historical records, and Russia had a good record of beating the Ottomans. Since 1768 it beat them in every war other than the Crimean War in which the Ottomans themselves were beaten by the Russians, but the Russians were defeated by the Ottomans’ British and French allies. So it would likely have won in another war with them.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Fair point about historical records, but it's worth noting that the Ottomans might have been fighting more passionately to defend their historical homeland (Anatolia) than they would have been in fighting to defend some peripheral areas. (The Turks were able to reverse and undo the Treaty of Sevres after WWI in real life, though it probably helped that Russia was Communist and thus uninterested in further imperialism in Anatolia.) And would close ties with the Germanic powers have meant nothing for the Ottoman Empire? No opportunities at all for the Germanic powers to significantly help the Ottomans improve their military, similar to how the West helped Ukraine significantly improve its own military between 2014 and 2022 in real life? I can't be certain of this, but I would think that the Germanic countries had more modern militaries relative to Russia; at least, I would suspect that this would be true of pre-WWI Germany since it was a much bigger scientific and technological hub relative to Russia. Germany could have sold or even given some of its military technology to the Ottomans, including the advanced stuff, just so long as the Ottomans knew how to properly use them. (Turks are duller on average than Germans are, but still smarter on average than Arabs and Kurds are. The Ottoman troops fighting the Russians would very likely in large part be Turks due to reasons of geography and logistics.)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  86. @A123
    @AP

    I accept your apology.

    Thank you for retracting your attempt to revise my original accurate statement. Your admission that my original intent was obvious, clear, and accurate is appreciated.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    You misstated your point originally (your statement that Zelensky got zero was incorrect, and wasn’t supported by the information in the footnote), but then provided an accurate correction. Good for you for not doubling down. I give credit where credit is due.

    • Replies: @A123
    @AP

    Thank you for admitting that I successfully corrected your misinterpretation. You took my original point out of context. It should have been obvious that it was tied to a story about the SENATOR McConnell. And thus, was exclusively about about new CONGRESSIONAL appropriation.

    Good for you with admitting your error & not doubling down. I give credit where credit is due.

    PEACE 😇

  87. @QCIC
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The military in both Koreas probably feel like they are next. If NATO were to be successful in Ukraine the USA might use South Korea to pressure North Korea and ultimately China and Russia. Besides, North Korea can use the money and South Korea is probably bored.

    Shells like that are easy to make. The lack of ammo from the West is a sign of lack of will, not of ability. I wonder which country will buy the 155 ammo from Russia?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I think this is Fake News, but I’m interested in your opinion.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @A123
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    You can judge the story's credibility based on these points from the article:


    All three individuals, like others in this story, were granted anonymity to speak freely about the president’s thinking.
    ...

    The Trump campaign denies that he has changed his stance toward North Korea in any way. “These ‘sources’ have no idea what they are talking about and do not speak for President Trump or his campaign,” said spokesperson Steven Cheung.
     
    It is probably outright fake news, but there is a slim chance it was a trial balloon that did not lift. There is no way to know for sure.

    PEACE 😇
    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I'm thinking about browsing tinder THOTs. I'm thinking about buying a television set and a cable contract.

    Twitter is garbage. I'm not even thinking about signing up for a TwitterX account. That was a great tweet a couple of weeks ago though with the six Israel school children singing the song about annihilating Gaza.

    , @QCIC
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    It sounds OK to me since the USA doesn't have much say in what happens in North Korea. I don't remember what Trump's prior position is toward the DPRK.

    I assume North and South Korea will naturally reunite at some point. I suspect Trump would be for this if the cost is otherwise low. He might want to take some credit for peacemaking.

    As the SMO winds down Russia may naturally begin to support the DPRK much more strongly the way the Soviets did. Previously Russia was concerned about sanctions and now they no longer have to worry about this. A renewed strong bond between Russia and North Korea may gradually pressure South Korea and Japan to become more moderate with respect to Russia.

    I think Russia has a shared interest with reunited Korea and Japan being independent and strong and the three states mutually operating as a counter balance to China. For the moment Russia may actually approve of the Western heckling of China since it keeps her somewhat in check.

    Probably the best case scenario is that Russia helps North Korea build back up economically. The both can become more prosperous while retaining some "old school values" which the West has lost, including the rapidly declining South Korea. Once North Korea looks a bit stronger and a bit nicer reunification might be straightforward.

  88. @AP
    @A123

    You misstated your point originally (your statement that Zelensky got zero was incorrect, and wasn’t supported by the information in the footnote), but then provided an accurate correction. Good for you for not doubling down. I give credit where credit is due.

    Replies: @A123

    Thank you for admitting that I successfully corrected your misinterpretation. You took my original point out of context. It should have been obvious that it was tied to a story about the SENATOR McConnell. And thus, was exclusively about about new CONGRESSIONAL appropriation.

    Good for you with admitting your error & not doubling down. I give credit where credit is due.

    PEACE 😇

  89. @Beckow
    @QCIC

    My sense is the visit to Washington was improvised, they are now making it up day-by-day. Nato knows that Ukies can't hold militarily in the long run but they lack the B team to negotiate a face-saving climb down. (Where is the fat German Frau when you need her?)

    Everyone is positioning for the coming blame game: not enough weapons, bad execution of the offensive, Israel-Gaza, US internal politics - the ghost of Trump, Euros lacking martial spirit and fickleness... Zelko wanted to see the capo di tutti capi in person: he knows there is the Western public posture and there is the reality - but what's the timing...and are they really sending him to Argentina?

    The problem is that Zelko and his entourage anywhere in the West after the war could be embarrassing: interviews, recriminations, where did all the money go...but Argentina looks so post-WW2 Nazi like...it is a mess...

    Replies: @LondonBob, @Mikhail

  90. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @QCIC

    I think this is Fake News, but I'm interested in your opinion.



    https://twitter.com/alexbward/status/1734892249257738420

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    You can judge the story’s credibility based on these points from the article:

    All three individuals, like others in this story, were granted anonymity to speak freely about the president’s thinking.

    The Trump campaign denies that he has changed his stance toward North Korea in any way. “These ‘sources’ have no idea what they are talking about and do not speak for President Trump or his campaign,” said spokesperson Steven Cheung.

    It is probably outright fake news, but there is a slim chance it was a trial balloon that did not lift. There is no way to know for sure.

    PEACE 😇

  91. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @QCIC

    I think this is Fake News, but I'm interested in your opinion.



    https://twitter.com/alexbward/status/1734892249257738420

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    I’m thinking about browsing tinder THOTs. I’m thinking about buying a television set and a cable contract.

    Twitter is garbage. I’m not even thinking about signing up for a TwitterX account. That was a great tweet a couple of weeks ago though with the six Israel school children singing the song about annihilating Gaza.

  92. @LatW
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Well, Korea only became divided as a result of Soviet entry.
     
    That is quite horrible, a friend mine has a half-Korean friend whose family was apparently split up. :(

    If you go back further, Russo-Japanese War was because Nicolaus wanted both Manchuria and Korea
     
    That is a really cool picture of the Black Octopus. Indeed, already so large, and yet still so full of avarice.

    Btw, if you're interested, I can share a bit about the Latvians who participated in the Russo-Japanese war (as part of the Tsar's army). I'm not too happy that they were there, killing Japanese, but at the time that's how the Empire was run.

    Here is a little write up from our history encyclopedia (you can see how this far off war shaped some of the later political events). It doesn't seem like a huge number of people but many of them were highly specialized:

    In the Russo-Japanese War, for the first time, Latvians participated en masse in modern warfare as military personnel involved in the service of the Russian Army and Navy - officers, soldiers and sailors, military officials, paramedics and pharmacists, as well as priests.

    The impact of the war extended beyond the military sphere and permeated Latvian society. The war's influence was evident in factors associated with the 1905 revolution. As early as 1904, the war's events began shaping the trajectory of Latvian urban industry (for example, a large order for railway wagons was received by the "Fenikss" factory in Riga, where around 2000 workers worked).

    The war significantly activated the social democratic groups established in the previous years in the industrial centers of Riga, Liepāja, Jelgava and Daugavpils, which started anti-war propaganda, there was some cooperation between Latvian, Polish, Lithuanian and Belarusian social democrats, for example, they issued a joint anti-war proclamation, while emphasizing the fact of national oppression.

    Latvian left-wing political groups, unlike the radical wing of the Polish Socialist Party, did not, however, get involved in supporting Russia's open enemy - Japan, although it was done by the prominent social democrat, editor of the newspaper "Struggle" Janis Jansons-Braun (in 07.01.1905, he reported from Liepāja to the General Staff of the Japanese Army about the activities of the Russian Navy).

    Recruitment

    In the Baltic governorates' territory, multiple mobilizations of military personnel in the army reserve occurred, involving troops in local garrisons. Within the regiments stationed in the European part of Russia, a selection of officers was made through a lottery system, and these chosen officers were then deployed to the front in the Far East. Latvians were among those selected, with a notable concentration of officers of Latvian origin in the troops stationed in the Baltic and surrounding provinces.

    Troop units, mobilized reservists, armaments, military equipment, and supplementary food supplies were transported from the European part of Russia to the war zone exclusively through the Trans-Siberian railway. The journey along this vital transport artery spanned 5 to 6 weeks.

    Description of the Latvian contingent and their military activity

    A total of at least 179 officers of Latvian nationality (most in infantry units), as well as about 60-80 enlisted officers (praporshchiks) mainly in infantry units and artillery, about 60-80 paramedics, pharmacists and military officials, as well as 2,500-3,000 soldiers and sailors participated in the hostilities.

    The companies were commanded by about 40-50 officers of Latvian nationality, there were also many younger officers, and most of them were awarded with combat orders.

    Some Latvians also served in the artillery units at the front, and took part in the battle at Mukden, served as task officers for communications with the Port Arthur fortress in the Manchurian Army's War Traffic Department. Some ran mobilization efforts.

    Captain astronomer Andrejs Auzans served in the topographers' unit in the 2nd Manchurian War. Several Latvians held positions in structures that cared for the wounded: Lieutenant Vilhelms Kaminskis was the manager of the hospital in Khabarovsk; lieutenant Jānis Miglavs – manager of the infirmary of the 54th division; captain Jānis Krastiņš – manager of the 63rd mobile field hospital and others. The former police chief of Kwantun and Port Arthur, lieutenant colonel Indriķis Lediņš, performed special tasks during the war as the commander of a special troops unit, performing tasks related to intelligence.

    Latvian sailors were engaged in combat right from the outset of the war. In the initial weeks, a minimum of six Latvians lost their lives, with three casualties occurring on the sunken cruiser "Varyag." Numerous Latvian sailors, totaling several hundred, served on the ships of the Pacific squadron either due to compulsory service or as part of their call-up for the Russo-Japanese War at the onset of the conflict.

    As in the ground forces, the Navy also had many soldiers and officers of Baltic-German origin.

    Latvian doctors, veterinary doctors, and pharmacists, whether conscripted, volunteers, or serving professionally in the army, participated in the war with Japan. This group included at least five professional army war doctors and approximately 40-50 doctors called up from the reserve. These medical professionals served in various capacities, including military units, infirmaries, hospitals, and Russian Red Cross medical institutions, where Latvian Sisters of Mercy were also present. Additionally, there were pharmacists contributing to the medical efforts at Port Arthur.

    The spiritual care of Latvian, German and Estonian Lutheran soldiers was carried out by Latvian pastors.

    About 200-250 Latvian soldiers and sailors died in the battles, including 12 officers. Many Baltic German officers died, too.

    There were many wounded and captured. Around 150-200 Latvian soldiers and sailors were captured, and were released at the end of 1905-1906. One of the soldiers saved the imperial monogram attached to the regimental flag during his captivity.

    The conflict with Japan marked the inaugural instance of substantial Latvian military participation in a 20th-century war. Latvians, including officers, military medics, pharmacists, and military officials, were actively involved. This engagement provided them with valuable exposure to modern combat, significantly influencing their career advancement. The experience gained in this conflict played a pivotal role in shaping the actions of Latvian soldiers during the subsequent First World War and the Latvian War of Independence.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks dear, a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia, just like a lot of EEs were pro-Japan. This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Georg_von_Möllendorff

    Here’s a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries

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    In 1903, the Latvian Social Democratic Union of Western Europe, in cooperation with the Latvian Social Democrats of the USA, founded the Latvian Social Democratic Union (LSS), the majority of whose members lived in London and Switzerland and were led by Miķelis Valters and Ernests Rolavs. At the beginning of the 1905 Revolution, the party had many members in Latvia and in May the LSS had about 1000 members. Already in the summer of 1905, some members of the party began to attack the estates. Members of the LSS organised the illegal transport of literature and weapons from Western Europe to the Russian Empire, which involved members of the London branch of the LSS Juris Šenbergs, Ernest Augusts Minka, Vilis Štrauss and Captain Janis Treimanis[1].

    During the Russo-Japanese War, in March 1905, the Japanese War Ministry allocated 1 million yen for the purchase and delivery of arms to support the Russian Revolution.[2] The Japanese military attaché in Stockholm, Colonel Motojiro Akashi, took the money to London and handed it over to the “United Fighting Organisation” (UBO), which had been formed by Russian émigrés. As an employee of the Japanese Embassy in St Petersburg, he had already established contacts with Russian oppositionists, including the Finnish politician Konrad (Konni) Zilliacus in 1902.

    A member of the group posing as the wine merchant Robert Richard Dickenson bought the English steamer John Grafton, built in 1883. According to the testimony of the later Soviet diplomat Litvinov, arms were bought for 100 000 roubles and a plan was drawn up to ship them to several Finnish ports. Latvians Minka, Wagner, Strauss and Salniņš took part in the procurement of the weapons.

    https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graftona_avantūra

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia
     
    An interesting tid-bit, before Korea was annexed by Japan the country was spelt Corea. After its annexation and subjugation by Japan, the Japanese were so petty they didn’t want Corea to be listed alphabetically in front of Japan so its spelling was forcibly changed by Japan from Corea to Korea.
    , @LatW
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks, interesting links.


    a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia
     
    It's understandable, but they weren't as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?

    This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia
     
    Great photo, you can tell the guy was totally into languages and "going native". He's German Prussian, btw, so practically Baltic German, one can say.

    "Möllendorff also advocated that Korea enter into an alliance with the Russian Empire to counterbalance Chinese and Japanese influences on the Korean peninsula." (Wiki)

    Alliance is different than being completely swamped. Hard to say what is more useful here, doing translations or political advisory.


    Here’s a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries
     
    Thanks, this was quite an operation, what is fascinating about it is just the sheer geographic span of all these connections and how they trailed and connected towards a common result. Btw, this org, those were not Bolshes, but social democrats of that time, which by today's standards would be a sort of republican or simply people who wanted modernization (which by the European standards of those times just meant basic rights). Also, to stop Russification of local nationalities.

    And the punitive action after 1905 was just insanely brutal (ordered by Nikolai). Executing, whipping to the point where people were crippled for life, torturing, even women. This was done by Tsar's Cossacks that were brought in. When you do that to your subjects, in the 20th century, you should know it's over. Although there was both good and bad in the Empire.

    And, btw, the modern Latvians (and Estonians) themselves do not like addressing this at all - burning the German estates is really looked down upon, as a shameful piece of history, anything openly anti-German is a big "no no" these days, so very different from those times. But once you start educating them, they start having sympathy for those folks who lived a 100 years ago.

    It is good to be able to look at those times with the distance we have now.

    From what I understand, Japan's collaboration with the Poles was deeper but it's interesting to see that it even reached Finns and Latvians. I'm sure a lot can be found in the revolutionary letters and diaries and such.

    Btw, there is a map that shows the route of the ships that went from Latvia towards Japan (the route is Liepaja to Vladivostok), all the way around Africa. I don't know how to post the map but if you open this link and scroll down, in the middle of the article you'll see three maps, and one of them shows it (the smaller one) - a red line that goes through the Suez canal and towards Asia. 30 warships and 25 cargo ships. They were insane.

    You can see it in this link:

    https://enciklopedija.lv/skirklis/64752-Krievijas%E2%80%93Jap%C4%81nas-kar%C5%A1

    Japanese troops in defense positions:

    https://enciklopedija.lv/api/image/original?name=df0390c82195-2986d039-2f42-438f-8173-1746c0e0ee19.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    , @LatW
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Another thing I wanted to share: here is a Lithuanian travel blogger who went to both North and South Korea and compared the two (he delves into the history a little, but just on the surface).

    He spent 7 days in North Korea (that's all a foreign tourist is allowed to spend there) and that travelogue is somewhat positive (and non-ideological), however, later he posts another video where he discourages visiting N.Korea (because of the heavy toll that the stringent social and political regulations exact on the individual human being in North Korea and how the freedoms are impacted).

    And Seoul is truly amazing. He found a friend who had apparently escaped North Korea to South Korea. Not sure how objective this blogger is, there are good bits about both countries.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0hZt91SW8&t=368s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoSyk0rK9s&t=658s

    And there is a documentary about North Korea, "Under the Sun", by a Russian director Vitaly Mansky (who bailed Putin's Russia and has been living in Latvia for a long time now). It looks like some North Koreans didn't like it, but when I watched it, it didn't seem too bad to me, it showed that the living standards there are actually not bad (also it showed a lot of color, which is different because North Korean is typically portrayed as drab by Westerners). But one can see that it is a hyper-organized society.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Sun_(2015_film)

  93. Ray McGovern: What Happens When Government Lies Are Exposed.

  94. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    China, a country you have zero history or interaction
     
    Not true, Chinese and Latvians fought together for the Reds (not a flattering depiction here though)

    https://i.postimg.cc/7YNg709Q/Sukuri-nshotto-1.png

    https://www.rbth.com/history/333135-how-chinese-soldiers-helped-bolsheviks

    Both Chinese and Japanese also supported the Whites and Czech Legion

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Kaartje_amerikanen_in_Rusland-1-.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I highly recommend the book Tennozan by George Fiefer, about the battle of Okinawa and the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan. Incredible stuff, it includes a funny story of a Kamikaze pilot who, after the sacramental saki and everything, took to the skies on his mission, but doubled back and strafed his celebratory comrades before actually heading out.

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The Japanese were engaged in a very nasty imperialism. It was that imperialism that brought them into conflict with the Chinese and then the Americans, nothing else. Don’t do it, no conflict.

    The one point to be made in defense of Germany and Japan in the 20th century wars was that they were rising in a world where market access had already been divied up by British and French and to a much lesser extent American, Dutch, Belgian … imperialism. It was not ridiculous for Germany and Japan to find the existing order to be offensive and want to remake it. And if they had openly pushed for decolonization and open trade the eventual post WW2 system they would have had allies in the project like America and China.

    But the Japanese had first grabbed Korea as a colony, then created their Manchukuo sock puppet state, then started the War by invading China a place that the Western powers had not colonized as it was so large and important that there was a general agreement that no one power should be allowed to dominate it (or perhaps could dominate it).

    Prior to it’s naked imperialism, Meiji Japan had a pretty good reputation in the world. It was seen as a modern, Westernizing, can do kind of place. A shining light amongst Asian backwardness.

    The reputation of the Japanese in Asia after the WW2 pretty much tells you all you need to know about Japan’s imperialism and aggression. In no way shape or form was it self defense.

  95. This past year, I have found some amusing clips on YouTube of people petting different animals, such as wild skunks and Canada geese. But I think the culmination is these people petting porcupines.

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  96. @LondonBob
    @Beckow

    Not really, Argentina looks more like present day Ukraine or 90s Russia, very much oligarch dominated. Hopefully Millei will do some good, can't do any worse. Argentina has a lot of mineral wealth, they should exploit that and generate some wealth, as the more successful Latin American countries do.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Hopefully Millei will do some good, can’t do any worse.

    Russian joke:
    The pessimist says:
    – Everything is so bad, it cannot get any worse.
    The optimist replies:
    – But surely it can!

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    From my ISP the first big headline after Millei's election was him pledging allegiance to Israel.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  97. @AnonfromTN
    @LondonBob


    Hopefully Millei will do some good, can’t do any worse.
     
    Russian joke:
    The pessimist says:
    - Everything is so bad, it cannot get any worse.
    The optimist replies:
    - But surely it can!

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    From my ISP the first big headline after Millei’s election was him pledging allegiance to Israel.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    the first big headline after Millei’s election was him pledging allegiance to Israel.
     
    Israel is busily digging its grave. What’s more, Israeli crimes in Gaza damaged the US even more than Israel itself (nobody expected anything good from Israel, anyway). So, if that certifiable mental case wants Argentina to go down with Israel, good luck to him. Except for vulture funds, Argentina is no more important for the world than Kabo Verde or Tuvalu.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  98. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I highly recommend the book Tennozan by George Fiefer, about the battle of Okinawa and the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan. Incredible stuff, it includes a funny story of a Kamikaze pilot who, after the sacramental saki and everything, took to the skies on his mission, but doubled back and strafed his celebratory comrades before actually heading out.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The Japanese were engaged in a very nasty imperialism. It was that imperialism that brought them into conflict with the Chinese and then the Americans, nothing else. Don’t do it, no conflict.

    The one point to be made in defense of Germany and Japan in the 20th century wars was that they were rising in a world where market access had already been divied up by British and French and to a much lesser extent American, Dutch, Belgian … imperialism. It was not ridiculous for Germany and Japan to find the existing order to be offensive and want to remake it. And if they had openly pushed for decolonization and open trade the eventual post WW2 system they would have had allies in the project like America and China.

    But the Japanese had first grabbed Korea as a colony, then created their Manchukuo sock puppet state, then started the War by invading China a place that the Western powers had not colonized as it was so large and important that there was a general agreement that no one power should be allowed to dominate it (or perhaps could dominate it).

    Prior to it’s naked imperialism, Meiji Japan had a pretty good reputation in the world. It was seen as a modern, Westernizing, can do kind of place. A shining light amongst Asian backwardness.

    The reputation of the Japanese in Asia after the WW2 pretty much tells you all you need to know about Japan’s imperialism and aggression. In no way shape or form was it self defense.

  99. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    From my ISP the first big headline after Millei's election was him pledging allegiance to Israel.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    the first big headline after Millei’s election was him pledging allegiance to Israel.

    Israel is busily digging its grave. What’s more, Israeli crimes in Gaza damaged the US even more than Israel itself (nobody expected anything good from Israel, anyway). So, if that certifiable mental case wants Argentina to go down with Israel, good luck to him. Except for vulture funds, Argentina is no more important for the world than Kabo Verde or Tuvalu.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN

    Re: https://www.eurasiareview.com/12122023-ukraines-future-oped/

    From a gentle Jewish socialist -

    As for answering your question, which I think is at least a bit rhetorical,
    what else could Putin have done?
    Just about anything except starting an invasion,
    just as Hamas could have done other things besides a pogrom.
    Both those actions must not go unanswered.


    My reply -

    Just as Israel could've done other things besides a bigger pogrom than what Hamas did? There's also the history prior to this past 10/7. As for claims of double standards, Russia has been the party being held to the greater double standard. The banning of the Russian flag and anthem from the upcoming Olympics (being done presently in numerous sports) is sheer bigotry.

    Russia gave peace a seven years chance (regarding the Minsk Accords) as the Kiev regime revamped its arsenal and increased attacks on Donbass.

  100. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    I’ve got an alternate history question for AP: In the event that WWI does not break out in 1914 (Franz Ferdinand lives), would it be possible for Russia to attack the Ottoman Empire again sometime down the line
     
    I think there’s something to be said for historical records, and Russia had a good record of beating the Ottomans. Since 1768 it beat them in every war other than the Crimean War in which the Ottomans themselves were beaten by the Russians, but the Russians were defeated by the Ottomans’ British and French allies. So it would likely have won in another war with them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Fair point about historical records, but it’s worth noting that the Ottomans might have been fighting more passionately to defend their historical homeland (Anatolia) than they would have been in fighting to defend some peripheral areas. (The Turks were able to reverse and undo the Treaty of Sevres after WWI in real life, though it probably helped that Russia was Communist and thus uninterested in further imperialism in Anatolia.) And would close ties with the Germanic powers have meant nothing for the Ottoman Empire? No opportunities at all for the Germanic powers to significantly help the Ottomans improve their military, similar to how the West helped Ukraine significantly improve its own military between 2014 and 2022 in real life? I can’t be certain of this, but I would think that the Germanic countries had more modern militaries relative to Russia; at least, I would suspect that this would be true of pre-WWI Germany since it was a much bigger scientific and technological hub relative to Russia. Germany could have sold or even given some of its military technology to the Ottomans, including the advanced stuff, just so long as the Ottomans knew how to properly use them. (Turks are duller on average than Germans are, but still smarter on average than Arabs and Kurds are. The Ottoman troops fighting the Russians would very likely in large part be Turks due to reasons of geography and logistics.)

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    As a side note, if there is no WWI in 1914 and it looks like Russia is on the verge of winning another war against the Ottoman Empire and thus in dismembering the Ottoman Empire in the 1920s or 1930s or beyond, I think that the question of whether Germany and Austria-Hungary would directly militarily intervene in the war might depend a lot on what Britain does. Britain was friendly with Russia in 1914, but without WWI, there's a very real risk that there could be a growing British fear of growing Russian military power over time. If so, and if Britain indicates that it is willing to fight to preserve the Ottoman Empire, then likely so would Germany and Austria-Hungary, in which case France would have to decide whether to remain neutral or to honor its alliance with Russia (which, TBF, might not apply in this case since AFAIK, the Franco-Russian alliance was officially defensive, and Germany won't be attacking France without a French DOW here since the Schlieffen Plan would already become long outdated due to growing Russian military power).

    If Britain indicates that it is not willing to fight on behalf of the Ottoman Empire, however, then we might very well see an outright partition of the Ottoman Empire between the various Great Powers in this scenario, unless of course Russia indicates that it would merely be content with Ottoman Armenia while allowing the Ottomans to keep the rest of their empire, including Constantinople, intact. I don't think that the Ottoman Empire can survive a loss of Constantinople, however. Too big and too vital/crucial.

  101. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Thanks dear, a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia, just like a lot of EEs were pro-Japan. This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Paul_Georg_von_M%C3%B6llendorff_%281847-1901%29.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Georg_von_Möllendorff

    Here's a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries


    In 1903, the Latvian Social Democratic Union of Western Europe, in cooperation with the Latvian Social Democrats of the USA, founded the Latvian Social Democratic Union (LSS), the majority of whose members lived in London and Switzerland and were led by Miķelis Valters and Ernests Rolavs. At the beginning of the 1905 Revolution, the party had many members in Latvia and in May the LSS had about 1000 members. Already in the summer of 1905, some members of the party began to attack the estates. Members of the LSS organised the illegal transport of literature and weapons from Western Europe to the Russian Empire, which involved members of the London branch of the LSS Juris Šenbergs, Ernest Augusts Minka, Vilis Štrauss and Captain Janis Treimanis[1].

    During the Russo-Japanese War, in March 1905, the Japanese War Ministry allocated 1 million yen for the purchase and delivery of arms to support the Russian Revolution.[2] The Japanese military attaché in Stockholm, Colonel Motojiro Akashi, took the money to London and handed it over to the "United Fighting Organisation" (UBO), which had been formed by Russian émigrés. As an employee of the Japanese Embassy in St Petersburg, he had already established contacts with Russian oppositionists, including the Finnish politician Konrad (Konni) Zilliacus in 1902.

    A member of the group posing as the wine merchant Robert Richard Dickenson bought the English steamer John Grafton, built in 1883. According to the testimony of the later Soviet diplomat Litvinov, arms were bought for 100 000 roubles and a plan was drawn up to ship them to several Finnish ports. Latvians Minka, Wagner, Strauss and Salniņš took part in the procurement of the weapons.
     

    https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graftona_avantūra

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @LatW, @LatW

    a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia

    An interesting tid-bit, before Korea was annexed by Japan the country was spelt Corea. After its annexation and subjugation by Japan, the Japanese were so petty they didn’t want Corea to be listed alphabetically in front of Japan so its spelling was forcibly changed by Japan from Corea to Korea.

    • Thanks: Mr. XYZ
  102. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    Fair point about historical records, but it's worth noting that the Ottomans might have been fighting more passionately to defend their historical homeland (Anatolia) than they would have been in fighting to defend some peripheral areas. (The Turks were able to reverse and undo the Treaty of Sevres after WWI in real life, though it probably helped that Russia was Communist and thus uninterested in further imperialism in Anatolia.) And would close ties with the Germanic powers have meant nothing for the Ottoman Empire? No opportunities at all for the Germanic powers to significantly help the Ottomans improve their military, similar to how the West helped Ukraine significantly improve its own military between 2014 and 2022 in real life? I can't be certain of this, but I would think that the Germanic countries had more modern militaries relative to Russia; at least, I would suspect that this would be true of pre-WWI Germany since it was a much bigger scientific and technological hub relative to Russia. Germany could have sold or even given some of its military technology to the Ottomans, including the advanced stuff, just so long as the Ottomans knew how to properly use them. (Turks are duller on average than Germans are, but still smarter on average than Arabs and Kurds are. The Ottoman troops fighting the Russians would very likely in large part be Turks due to reasons of geography and logistics.)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    As a side note, if there is no WWI in 1914 and it looks like Russia is on the verge of winning another war against the Ottoman Empire and thus in dismembering the Ottoman Empire in the 1920s or 1930s or beyond, I think that the question of whether Germany and Austria-Hungary would directly militarily intervene in the war might depend a lot on what Britain does. Britain was friendly with Russia in 1914, but without WWI, there’s a very real risk that there could be a growing British fear of growing Russian military power over time. If so, and if Britain indicates that it is willing to fight to preserve the Ottoman Empire, then likely so would Germany and Austria-Hungary, in which case France would have to decide whether to remain neutral or to honor its alliance with Russia (which, TBF, might not apply in this case since AFAIK, the Franco-Russian alliance was officially defensive, and Germany won’t be attacking France without a French DOW here since the Schlieffen Plan would already become long outdated due to growing Russian military power).

    If Britain indicates that it is not willing to fight on behalf of the Ottoman Empire, however, then we might very well see an outright partition of the Ottoman Empire between the various Great Powers in this scenario, unless of course Russia indicates that it would merely be content with Ottoman Armenia while allowing the Ottomans to keep the rest of their empire, including Constantinople, intact. I don’t think that the Ottoman Empire can survive a loss of Constantinople, however. Too big and too vital/crucial.

  103. @AP
    @Beckow


    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.
     
    The Sovoks such as Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash – how much was stolen? Was it significant to you
     
    I asked you for evidence that a significant portion of the $40 billion in cash assistance was stolen.

    You provided none.

    You want a number? Well, 1% would be significant. Any evidence of $400 million having been stolen? Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft, surely it would be easy to find evidence of that.

    If you believe that Russia lost “100k” soldiers, how
     
    How many do you think Russia has lost since the invasion started in February 2022?

    Or is it 10k as you once claimed?

     

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war (unless I mentioned such a number in early 2022, don’t recall).

    but that doesn’t explain how they ruined their country after 1991
     
    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West. This was when the country fell behind. The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Beckow

    The Sovoks such as Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

    Was Kravchuk not a Sovok as well?

    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West. This was when the country fell behind. The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

    To be fair, virtually all of Ukraine outside of the far west voted for Kravchuk in 1991. They should have voted for Chornovil if they wanted the post-Communist transition to be led by someone who wasn’t a Sovok.

    I think that this is the central issue here: That a lot of Ukrainians wanted independence in 1991 in the hope of a much better quality of life for themselves but were still determined to vote for Sovoks for a while. Central Ukraine stopped voting for Sovoks first (early 2000s), of course.

  104. Should hostilities once break out between Japan and the United States, it would not be enough that we take Guam and the Philippines, nor even Hawaii and San Francisco. To make victory certain, we would have to march into Washington and dictate the terms of peace in the White House. I wonder if our politicians [who speak so lightly of a Japanese-American war] have confidence as to the final outcome and are prepared to make the necessary sacrifices.

    Yamamoto

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The Japanese gardens on the West Coast are simply incredible. The one in Seattle is stunning. Everything is planted and maintained with such care and showing in complete splendor during the fall season. And the red maple is one of the most beautiful trees on the planet.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Seattle_Japanese_garden_2011_05.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

  105. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Thanks dear, a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia, just like a lot of EEs were pro-Japan. This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Paul_Georg_von_M%C3%B6llendorff_%281847-1901%29.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Georg_von_Möllendorff

    Here's a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries


    In 1903, the Latvian Social Democratic Union of Western Europe, in cooperation with the Latvian Social Democrats of the USA, founded the Latvian Social Democratic Union (LSS), the majority of whose members lived in London and Switzerland and were led by Miķelis Valters and Ernests Rolavs. At the beginning of the 1905 Revolution, the party had many members in Latvia and in May the LSS had about 1000 members. Already in the summer of 1905, some members of the party began to attack the estates. Members of the LSS organised the illegal transport of literature and weapons from Western Europe to the Russian Empire, which involved members of the London branch of the LSS Juris Šenbergs, Ernest Augusts Minka, Vilis Štrauss and Captain Janis Treimanis[1].

    During the Russo-Japanese War, in March 1905, the Japanese War Ministry allocated 1 million yen for the purchase and delivery of arms to support the Russian Revolution.[2] The Japanese military attaché in Stockholm, Colonel Motojiro Akashi, took the money to London and handed it over to the "United Fighting Organisation" (UBO), which had been formed by Russian émigrés. As an employee of the Japanese Embassy in St Petersburg, he had already established contacts with Russian oppositionists, including the Finnish politician Konrad (Konni) Zilliacus in 1902.

    A member of the group posing as the wine merchant Robert Richard Dickenson bought the English steamer John Grafton, built in 1883. According to the testimony of the later Soviet diplomat Litvinov, arms were bought for 100 000 roubles and a plan was drawn up to ship them to several Finnish ports. Latvians Minka, Wagner, Strauss and Salniņš took part in the procurement of the weapons.
     

    https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graftona_avantūra

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @LatW, @LatW

    Thanks, interesting links.

    a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia

    It’s understandable, but they weren’t as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?

    This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia

    Great photo, you can tell the guy was totally into languages and “going native”. He’s German Prussian, btw, so practically Baltic German, one can say.

    “Möllendorff also advocated that Korea enter into an alliance with the Russian Empire to counterbalance Chinese and Japanese influences on the Korean peninsula.” (Wiki)

    Alliance is different than being completely swamped. Hard to say what is more useful here, doing translations or political advisory.

    [MORE]

    Here’s a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries

    Thanks, this was quite an operation, what is fascinating about it is just the sheer geographic span of all these connections and how they trailed and connected towards a common result. Btw, this org, those were not Bolshes, but social democrats of that time, which by today’s standards would be a sort of republican or simply people who wanted modernization (which by the European standards of those times just meant basic rights). Also, to stop Russification of local nationalities.

    And the punitive action after 1905 was just insanely brutal (ordered by Nikolai). Executing, whipping to the point where people were crippled for life, torturing, even women. This was done by Tsar’s Cossacks that were brought in. When you do that to your subjects, in the 20th century, you should know it’s over. Although there was both good and bad in the Empire.

    And, btw, the modern Latvians (and Estonians) themselves do not like addressing this at all – burning the German estates is really looked down upon, as a shameful piece of history, anything openly anti-German is a big “no no” these days, so very different from those times. But once you start educating them, they start having sympathy for those folks who lived a 100 years ago.

    It is good to be able to look at those times with the distance we have now.

    From what I understand, Japan’s collaboration with the Poles was deeper but it’s interesting to see that it even reached Finns and Latvians. I’m sure a lot can be found in the revolutionary letters and diaries and such.

    Btw, there is a map that shows the route of the ships that went from Latvia towards Japan (the route is Liepaja to Vladivostok), all the way around Africa. I don’t know how to post the map but if you open this link and scroll down, in the middle of the article you’ll see three maps, and one of them shows it (the smaller one) – a red line that goes through the Suez canal and towards Asia. 30 warships and 25 cargo ships. They were insane.

    You can see it in this link:

    https://enciklopedija.lv/skirklis/64752-Krievijas%E2%80%93Jap%C4%81nas-kar%C5%A1

    Japanese troops in defense positions:

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    It’s understandable, but they weren’t as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?

     

    On a related note, why did the Soviet Union not annex North Korea after WWII? Was it for similar reasons as to why it did not annex Mongolia during the decades of the Cold War? Or would annexing North Korea have simply not been accepted by the North Korean population, even by their Communists, due to it looking like a predatory imperialist act?

    Korea as a part of the Russian Empire or, alternatively, as a part of a reformed liberal non-Bolshevik-ruled post-Tsarist Russia would certainly be very interesting. I'm just not sure that it's actually realistic, unfortunately.

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW


    It’s understandable, but they weren’t as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?
     
    No, they tried to enter into some secret agreements with Russia. And the Korean king representing a faction took refuge with Russians

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojong%27s_internal_exile_to_the_Russian_legation

    It was complicated because Joseon was a Manchu Qing tributary at the time. Qing preferred to keep Joseon static and backwards, this is a depiction of the yangban elite class sitting on top of peasants
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Danwon-Byeo.tajak.jpg
    But Manchu-Mongol rule was crumbling, Han Chinese were dominating the Qing court. Japan and Russia were rising as two great powers of NE Asia. So both Koreans and Chinese were playing off between the two.

    The Han Chinese PM of Qing also entered into a secret backdoor deal with Russia, then turned around and pleaded to Japan to remove Russia from Manchuria

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li–Lobanov_Treaty

    Nicholaus refusing Korea-Manchuria exchange was one of the fateful turning points of 20th CE. No Russo-Japanese War means probably no Bolsheviks, no Nazis, etc...But there was a lot of money involved with timber, Yul Brynner's grandfather was involved
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Rosenda_Monteros_and_Yul_Brynner_in_The_Magnificent_Seven_%281960%29.jpg

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бринер,_Юлий_Иванович

    You do "right click"->"copy image link"

    https://enciklopedija.lv/api/image/original?name=0df0ac0f61e1-f5134f54-0ae1-4310-8ee9-9cb6859aeaa3.jpg

  106. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @LatW

    Thanks dear, a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia, just like a lot of EEs were pro-Japan. This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Paul_Georg_von_M%C3%B6llendorff_%281847-1901%29.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Georg_von_Möllendorff

    Here's a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries


    In 1903, the Latvian Social Democratic Union of Western Europe, in cooperation with the Latvian Social Democrats of the USA, founded the Latvian Social Democratic Union (LSS), the majority of whose members lived in London and Switzerland and were led by Miķelis Valters and Ernests Rolavs. At the beginning of the 1905 Revolution, the party had many members in Latvia and in May the LSS had about 1000 members. Already in the summer of 1905, some members of the party began to attack the estates. Members of the LSS organised the illegal transport of literature and weapons from Western Europe to the Russian Empire, which involved members of the London branch of the LSS Juris Šenbergs, Ernest Augusts Minka, Vilis Štrauss and Captain Janis Treimanis[1].

    During the Russo-Japanese War, in March 1905, the Japanese War Ministry allocated 1 million yen for the purchase and delivery of arms to support the Russian Revolution.[2] The Japanese military attaché in Stockholm, Colonel Motojiro Akashi, took the money to London and handed it over to the "United Fighting Organisation" (UBO), which had been formed by Russian émigrés. As an employee of the Japanese Embassy in St Petersburg, he had already established contacts with Russian oppositionists, including the Finnish politician Konrad (Konni) Zilliacus in 1902.

    A member of the group posing as the wine merchant Robert Richard Dickenson bought the English steamer John Grafton, built in 1883. According to the testimony of the later Soviet diplomat Litvinov, arms were bought for 100 000 roubles and a plan was drawn up to ship them to several Finnish ports. Latvians Minka, Wagner, Strauss and Salniņš took part in the procurement of the weapons.
     

    https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graftona_avantūra

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @LatW, @LatW

    Another thing I wanted to share: here is a Lithuanian travel blogger who went to both North and South Korea and compared the two (he delves into the history a little, but just on the surface).

    He spent 7 days in North Korea (that’s all a foreign tourist is allowed to spend there) and that travelogue is somewhat positive (and non-ideological), however, later he posts another video where he discourages visiting N.Korea (because of the heavy toll that the stringent social and political regulations exact on the individual human being in North Korea and how the freedoms are impacted).

    And Seoul is truly amazing. He found a friend who had apparently escaped North Korea to South Korea. Not sure how objective this blogger is, there are good bits about both countries.

    [MORE]

    And there is a documentary about North Korea, “Under the Sun”, by a Russian director Vitaly Mansky (who bailed Putin’s Russia and has been living in Latvia for a long time now). It looks like some North Koreans didn’t like it, but when I watched it, it didn’t seem too bad to me, it showed that the living standards there are actually not bad (also it showed a lot of color, which is different because North Korean is typically portrayed as drab by Westerners). But one can see that it is a hyper-organized society.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Sun_(2015_film)

  107. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Should hostilities once break out between Japan and the United States, it would not be enough that we take Guam and the Philippines, nor even Hawaii and San Francisco. To make victory certain, we would have to march into Washington and dictate the terms of peace in the White House. I wonder if our politicians [who speak so lightly of a Japanese-American war] have confidence as to the final outcome and are prepared to make the necessary sacrifices.
     
    Yamamoto

    Replies: @LatW

    The Japanese gardens on the West Coast are simply incredible. The one in Seattle is stunning. Everything is planted and maintained with such care and showing in complete splendor during the fall season. And the red maple is one of the most beautiful trees on the planet.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    I have heard that everybody in Beverly Hills employs a Japanese gardener. I wonder if the new rich in Woodside have caught up. Judging by their outfits I am betting on 98% Mexicans.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @AP
    @LatW

    The one at the Chicago Botanical Garden is impressive

    https://live.staticflickr.com/3948/15581858036_cc9e069cfe_b.jpg

    Replies: @LatW

  108. Stunning and maintained with such care and showing complete splendor.

    Have you had a chance to visit and show your gratitude?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    Have you had a chance to visit and show your gratitude?
     
    Oh, yea? Gratitude for providing the train cars for the deportation of my people? Including children.

    I choose myself who to show gratitude to and who to pay homage to. Nevertheless, I recognize that all humans have struggled. There is no justice in this cold and brutal world (and very little mercy).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  109. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The Japanese gardens on the West Coast are simply incredible. The one in Seattle is stunning. Everything is planted and maintained with such care and showing in complete splendor during the fall season. And the red maple is one of the most beautiful trees on the planet.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Seattle_Japanese_garden_2011_05.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    I have heard that everybody in Beverly Hills employs a Japanese gardener. I wonder if the new rich in Woodside have caught up. Judging by their outfits I am betting on 98% Mexicans.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I have heard that everybody in Beverly Hills employs a Japanese gardener.
     
    I don't blame them. :) Beverly Hills is in the south, but the Japanese are actually more "native" further north, they have lived there for a long time (logs from Japanese boats washed up on America's shores in ancient times) and their homes there are very distinct (it is not just the Japanese maple (Acer palmatum), a very decorative tree on its own, but also intricately cut small Japanese pines that have been planted near their homes). Those are their signature trees, absolutely gorgeous and very exotic looking.

    I'm not sure there are such original, older Japanese homes in Beverly Hills, however, I'm sure a Japanese gardener would do a great job landscaping a newly built property.


    Judging by their outfits I am betting on 98% Mexicans.
     
    Surely, Mexicans could try to learn to landscape like this and maybe even be partly successful sans the refinement which is in fact crucial (Balts would have a field day, since they are obsessed with horticulture yet they don't have the luxury of a mild Pacific climate - they could come close to imitating that, but not fully). Nothing beats the original touch.
  110. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @QCIC

    I think this is Fake News, but I'm interested in your opinion.



    https://twitter.com/alexbward/status/1734892249257738420

    Replies: @A123, @Emil Nikola Richard, @QCIC

    It sounds OK to me since the USA doesn’t have much say in what happens in North Korea. I don’t remember what Trump’s prior position is toward the DPRK.

    I assume North and South Korea will naturally reunite at some point. I suspect Trump would be for this if the cost is otherwise low. He might want to take some credit for peacemaking.

    As the SMO winds down Russia may naturally begin to support the DPRK much more strongly the way the Soviets did. Previously Russia was concerned about sanctions and now they no longer have to worry about this. A renewed strong bond between Russia and North Korea may gradually pressure South Korea and Japan to become more moderate with respect to Russia.

    I think Russia has a shared interest with reunited Korea and Japan being independent and strong and the three states mutually operating as a counter balance to China. For the moment Russia may actually approve of the Western heckling of China since it keeps her somewhat in check.

    Probably the best case scenario is that Russia helps North Korea build back up economically. The both can become more prosperous while retaining some “old school values” which the West has lost, including the rapidly declining South Korea. Once North Korea looks a bit stronger and a bit nicer reunification might be straightforward.

  111. If you read all the way to the end they have what Genocide Joe told his Bobo.

    It isn’t personal. &
    It’s where we are on the time line. &
    It is what it is. &
    We are trying to run a business.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics/russia-troop-losses-us-intelligence-assessment/index.html

    Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war, according to US intelligence assessment

    Actually I did not read all the way to the end. : )

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war, according to US intelligence assessment
     
    I like that number. It gives the game away. It is certainly as credible as the US intelligence claim before Iraq war that Saddam has WMDs.

    Apparently, the dead are now fighting and beating Ukrainian troops to pulp, like in the “The return of the king”.

    The best thing about current US powers-that-be is that they do not need anyone to deceive them, they effectively deceive themselves. Perfect self-service.

    Replies: @Beckow

  112. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    I have heard that everybody in Beverly Hills employs a Japanese gardener. I wonder if the new rich in Woodside have caught up. Judging by their outfits I am betting on 98% Mexicans.

    Replies: @LatW

    I have heard that everybody in Beverly Hills employs a Japanese gardener.

    I don’t blame them. 🙂 Beverly Hills is in the south, but the Japanese are actually more “native” further north, they have lived there for a long time (logs from Japanese boats washed up on America’s shores in ancient times) and their homes there are very distinct (it is not just the Japanese maple (Acer palmatum), a very decorative tree on its own, but also intricately cut small Japanese pines that have been planted near their homes). Those are their signature trees, absolutely gorgeous and very exotic looking.

    I’m not sure there are such original, older Japanese homes in Beverly Hills, however, I’m sure a Japanese gardener would do a great job landscaping a newly built property.

    Judging by their outfits I am betting on 98% Mexicans.

    Surely, Mexicans could try to learn to landscape like this and maybe even be partly successful sans the refinement which is in fact crucial (Balts would have a field day, since they are obsessed with horticulture yet they don’t have the luxury of a mild Pacific climate – they could come close to imitating that, but not fully). Nothing beats the original touch.

  113. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    Stunning and maintained with such care and showing complete splendor.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg/853px-2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg


    Have you had a chance to visit and show your gratitude?

    Replies: @LatW

    Have you had a chance to visit and show your gratitude?

    Oh, yea? Gratitude for providing the train cars for the deportation of my people? Including children.

    I choose myself who to show gratitude to and who to pay homage to. Nevertheless, I recognize that all humans have struggled. There is no justice in this cold and brutal world (and very little mercy).

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    Yea, the Americans are your people, you ungrateful sod.


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/ohtani-signs-with-dodgers-for-700-million-for-10-years/#comment-6311875

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    train cars for the deportation of my people? Including children.
     
    Bullshit, the Americans never did this, you talk alot of shit.

    Show some evidence! You can't because it only exist in your unhinged imagination!

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg/853px-2018-10-31_15_25_21_The_west_side_of_the_Marine_Corps_War_Memorial_in_Arlington_County%2C_Virginia.jpg

  114. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    A couple of soldiers got drunk and “raped” a woman during their night out on the town
     
    LMAO. Why are you putting it in quotation marks? IIRC there's been a couple of incidents, including these two with corpuses delicti:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okinawa_rape_incident
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42192571


    But you're being overly reductive. There are many reasons not to want US troops around beyond these incidents (including if you are American), and I don't think it's the main motivation for many.

    Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.
     
    surely, a straw man. Many EEs probably want more US bases. Likely as do some of these these very small states, like Qatar or Djibouti.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I wasn’t sure what exactly the charges were and if they were indeed proven. I was going on my recollections, and didn’t have any time to research the issue. “Straw man” how so?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    “Straw man” how so?
     

    Well, you said this:

    Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.

     

    All seems like a very high bar to clear. Nobody else said all.

    Iraq and Syria, which I already cited, are two clear-cut examples of countries where the current governments don't want US bases, but the US doesn't care.

    When Iraq’s parliament voted to expel American troops from the country Sunday, it was an apparent bid by the government to extract the country from an escalating US-Iran proxy war.
     
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/middleeast/iraq-us-troops-explainer-intl/index.html

    Support in a lot of other places is mixed, at best.

    Granted, there aren't insurgencies in most of these places driving US troops out, but that was also true of Soviet bases.
  115. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    Have you had a chance to visit and show your gratitude?
     
    Oh, yea? Gratitude for providing the train cars for the deportation of my people? Including children.

    I choose myself who to show gratitude to and who to pay homage to. Nevertheless, I recognize that all humans have struggled. There is no justice in this cold and brutal world (and very little mercy).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    Yea, the Americans are your people,
     
    No, they're not.

    Wait, aren't you an ethnic Chinese parked somewhere in the US? Or even born there? Yet trashing the West all the time.

    Why so agitated? Happiness is hard to find?

    And, yea, some of the train cars they gave to Stalin, he used in his countless deportations. The Soviet Russians always had lousy infrastructure and even despite the brutal modernization, they did not have enough equipment. This is all well known.

    I would be much more grateful to the Americans that they provided food assistance during the Independence War, but that was much earlier (even though we should've been able to provide our own).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  116. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    The French gave them the boot and the Germans, Dutch, Norwegians, British, Italians, and Spaniards would give them the boot after 30 seconds of deliberation if the people had anything to say about it.

    Are you drunk?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Well, goes to show you that the US does not force countries to accept their bases, although I’m sure pressure and some dealing goes on behind the scenes, with those that acquiesce. I’m not aware of the situation in Spain…have their been demonstrations against the base there by the local population?

  117. Russia has to understand that the Ukraine war isn’t going to end, as-long as the West can drip feed the Ukrainian resistance they will do so rather than admit defeat.

    The U.S has changed tactics and Russia has to do the same. The U.S now look on Ukraine has a holding force…holding large numbers of Russian soldiers and equipment on a large front, now the U.S can concentrate on the middle-east and Iran.

    Russia has to push Ukraine back over the Dnipro river as quick as possible and set up a patrolled buffer zone, this will free up troops that can be kept in reserve for geo-strategic matters.

    War is a fluid concept, and this fluidity is about draining and exhausting your enemy, the U.S has not really entered the theater yet, and don’t believe the U.S don’t have a strong army…they can find plenty of good soldiers in 350 million people.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr_Chow_Mein

    The Russian military knows the West will drip feed the AFU and most likely they don't care. Russia is probably focussed on the post-SMO situation now.

    It would interesting to know what Russia is doing with newly produced armaments. Let's say they build 500 high performance tactical missiles next month. How many go to the SMO and how many to the rest of the Russian forces across the country? Of the ones for the SMO, how many are used right away and how many are kept for future combat?

    Ukie backers would say 100% go to the SMO where 90% are immediately shot down. I would guess 60% go to the SMO and 40% to stockpiles in the rest of Russia. Of the 60% maybe half are used as soon as possible. In other words the stockpile for SMO work may be increasing over time even while Russia is regularly launching strikes.

    So my guess is:

    30% are used right away of which 75% get through Ukrainian air defenses
    30% are stockpiled for the SMO
    40% are stockpiled in the rest of the Russian Federation.

    Why does Russia need to go fast in Ukraine? If they keep going at a medium level through the winter, Ukrainian morale will begin to slip faster. If the Ukrainians have already press-ganged men and boys on the streets and accepted female combat troops how much longer can they really go on? On the other hand Russia gets more seasoned combat vets with hard winter experience. They can use this this now that Finland has joined NATO and other Northern countries have become more polarized against Russia.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  118. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    Have you had a chance to visit and show your gratitude?
     
    Oh, yea? Gratitude for providing the train cars for the deportation of my people? Including children.

    I choose myself who to show gratitude to and who to pay homage to. Nevertheless, I recognize that all humans have struggled. There is no justice in this cold and brutal world (and very little mercy).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    train cars for the deportation of my people? Including children.

    Bullshit, the Americans never did this, you talk alot of shit.

    Show some evidence! You can’t because it only exist in your unhinged imagination!

  119. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    Yea, the Americans are your people, you ungrateful sod.


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/ohtani-signs-with-dodgers-for-700-million-for-10-years/#comment-6311875

    Replies: @LatW

    Yea, the Americans are your people,

    No, they’re not.

    Wait, aren’t you an ethnic Chinese parked somewhere in the US? Or even born there? Yet trashing the West all the time.

    Why so agitated? Happiness is hard to find?

    And, yea, some of the train cars they gave to Stalin, he used in his countless deportations. The Soviet Russians always had lousy infrastructure and even despite the brutal modernization, they did not have enough equipment. This is all well known.

    I would be much more grateful to the Americans that they provided food assistance during the Independence War, but that was much earlier (even though we should’ve been able to provide our own).

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    Why do you insist I live in America? Just because you live there?

    So I must too?

    You really are unhinged.

    Replies: @LatW

  120. Rural Russians are the biggest saps:

    This is exactly what happened with Stalin.

    The people assumed the complaints weren’t getting to him. If only Stalin knew!!!!

    Your Tsar knows and he doesn’t care. DERRRRR

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson

    This kind of stuff helps to explain why Putler is causing wars in neighboring countries, in order to to deflect scrutiny exposing the endemic rot within Russia. Of course those that have fled Russia and have managed to to comfortably blend in somewhere in the West, can sit around and bellyache over the time constraints of Minsk 2 agreements, but what of those left behind? They don't really give a s__t.

  121. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    Yea, the Americans are your people,
     
    No, they're not.

    Wait, aren't you an ethnic Chinese parked somewhere in the US? Or even born there? Yet trashing the West all the time.

    Why so agitated? Happiness is hard to find?

    And, yea, some of the train cars they gave to Stalin, he used in his countless deportations. The Soviet Russians always had lousy infrastructure and even despite the brutal modernization, they did not have enough equipment. This is all well known.

    I would be much more grateful to the Americans that they provided food assistance during the Independence War, but that was much earlier (even though we should've been able to provide our own).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Why do you insist I live in America? Just because you live there?

    So I must too?

    You really are unhinged.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    I thought you mentioned once that you had had an encounter with some Western woman at your work, years ago, was that in China?

    Well, I might be wrong, but you do sound like someone who is parked somewhere in the West. You don't really sound like an original Chinese, but I might be wrong, ofc. What is the truth (maybe better to speak the truth instead of calling names?). No, seriously, why so angry, the world is not how you wish it should be and you can't bend it to your mind? The "multi-polar world" didn't really work out the way it was hoped or something? I at least accept that different people in the world have different interests.

    I offered you yesterday to calm down and not have enmity or agitate each other, yet you choose to continue to be needlessly hostile. Why?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  122. @AP
    @Beckow


    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.
     
    The Sovoks such as Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash – how much was stolen? Was it significant to you
     
    I asked you for evidence that a significant portion of the $40 billion in cash assistance was stolen.

    You provided none.

    You want a number? Well, 1% would be significant. Any evidence of $400 million having been stolen? Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft, surely it would be easy to find evidence of that.

    If you believe that Russia lost “100k” soldiers, how
     
    How many do you think Russia has lost since the invasion started in February 2022?

    Or is it 10k as you once claimed?

     

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war (unless I mentioned such a number in early 2022, don’t recall).

    but that doesn’t explain how they ruined their country after 1991
     
    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West. This was when the country fell behind. The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Beckow

    The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

    “Russia never forgives friendship with her,” says Ayder Muzhdabayev (a Crimean (Krimchak) critic of the Kremlin).

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    No, they’re not.
     
    If you tell me how many decades ago you moved to America.

    I'll tell you what year I moved to Singapore. Here's a hint it was a long time ago and not from America.

    Is that a deal?

    And you can cut the any bullshit about me not being a “Native Singaporean”, are you a “Native American”?

    Replies: @LatW

    , @AnonfromTN
    @LatW

    To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
    Henry Kissinger

    He knew what he was talking about.

  123. @Emil Nikola Richard
    If you read all the way to the end they have what Genocide Joe told his Bobo.

    It isn't personal. &
    It's where we are on the time line. &
    It is what it is. &
    We are trying to run a business.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics/russia-troop-losses-us-intelligence-assessment/index.html

    Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war, according to US intelligence assessment

    Actually I did not read all the way to the end. : )

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war, according to US intelligence assessment

    I like that number. It gives the game away. It is certainly as credible as the US intelligence claim before Iraq war that Saddam has WMDs.

    Apparently, the dead are now fighting and beating Ukrainian troops to pulp, like in the “The return of the king”.

    The best thing about current US powers-that-be is that they do not need anyone to deceive them, they effectively deceive themselves. Perfect self-service.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...they do not need anyone to deceive them, they effectively deceive themselves.
     
    It is even worse: they believe that wars are won by PR deceptions. Thy think that if they win in the media (Western house media) that's all that matters. It is a meta-war: a "war about the war" in front of the public - and themselves. It is closer to self-therapy than to geo-politics.

    The claim of 87% is of course intentionally stupid - not meant to be believed, it is a spit at the enemy as the war is being lost. Germans did very much the same thing in the last year of the war. The actual number of casualties given that Russia had in early 2022 700k active troops - plus the Donbas and other militias like Chechens - would by over 600k....riiiiight, that had to be quite a meeting as they settled on the "number"...I see a few elderly women staring at PowerPoint slides...

    This is very sad, even tragic, but let's also appreciate the entertainment value that is just precious, it cut sthrough the brain-dead Western culture like a lightning...I am hoping they grab it and make something out of it. But probably not...

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  124. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    Why do you insist I live in America? Just because you live there?

    So I must too?

    You really are unhinged.

    Replies: @LatW

    [MORE]

    I thought you mentioned once that you had had an encounter with some Western woman at your work, years ago, was that in China?

    Well, I might be wrong, but you do sound like someone who is parked somewhere in the West. You don’t really sound like an original Chinese, but I might be wrong, ofc. What is the truth (maybe better to speak the truth instead of calling names?). No, seriously, why so angry, the world is not how you wish it should be and you can’t bend it to your mind? The “multi-polar world” didn’t really work out the way it was hoped or something? I at least accept that different people in the world have different interests.

    I offered you yesterday to calm down and not have enmity or agitate each other, yet you choose to continue to be needlessly hostile. Why?

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-237/#comment-6311925

    LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-226/#comment-6118914

    These are not their real names.

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    I thought you mentioned once that you had had an encounter with some Western woman at your work, years ago,
     
    Please clarify for the audience what you mean by this.

    Many people will get the wrong idea.

    She was not a Westerner nor was she Chinese.
  125. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    The Japanese gardens on the West Coast are simply incredible. The one in Seattle is stunning. Everything is planted and maintained with such care and showing in complete splendor during the fall season. And the red maple is one of the most beautiful trees on the planet.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Seattle_Japanese_garden_2011_05.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    The one at the Chicago Botanical Garden is impressive

    • Replies: @LatW
    @AP

    Such beauty and such great combinations of colors and shapes. But it looks almost too tidy, too perfect, almost like divine creation or something crafted by timeless evolution, while it is just a caring human hand, almost as if caressing the landscape. One can see though, with the trees in the background, that it is a different climate than the Pacific, one can see those trees are from much colder climes. It is a bit more rugged.

  126. @LatW
    @AP


    The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.
     
    "Russia never forgives friendship with her," says Ayder Muzhdabayev (a Crimean (Krimchak) critic of the Kremlin).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @AnonfromTN

    No, they’re not.

    If you tell me how many decades ago you moved to America.

    I’ll tell you what year I moved to Singapore. Here’s a hint it was a long time ago and not from America.

    Is that a deal?

    And you can cut the any bullshit about me not being a “Native Singaporean”, are you a “Native American”?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    And you can cut the any bullshit about me not being a “Native Singaporean”, are you a “Native American”?
     
    I could always claim to be "part Uralic". You should be able to get the joke. I wonder if I could claim that somewhere for some potential goodies or preferences. It might work these days. (Jk.)

    Is that a deal?
     
    I have another suggestion - let's cut down on unneeded animosity. I can spar, if I have to, and if I feel like it's fun, but it can be a waste of time. And why spread negative, toxic vibes in an already complicated world?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  127. Why are Koreans so obsessed with these boy bands and girl bands? K-Pop is sickeningly cheesy, ultra commercialised crap and the singers are completely owned and controlled by the management companies, there isn’t even a pretense of artistic individuality.

    Western music is bad enough, but I just can’t even begin to understand the mentality of a people and culture who lap that K-Pop garbage up

    K-Pop strikes me as being “culture” for people who absolutely despise individuality and anything even vaguely “grass roots” and want to crush it.

  128. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    Russia has to understand that the Ukraine war isn't going to end, as-long as the West can drip feed the Ukrainian resistance they will do so rather than admit defeat.

    The U.S has changed tactics and Russia has to do the same. The U.S now look on Ukraine has a holding force...holding large numbers of Russian soldiers and equipment on a large front, now the U.S can concentrate on the middle-east and Iran.

    Russia has to push Ukraine back over the Dnipro river as quick as possible and set up a patrolled buffer zone, this will free up troops that can be kept in reserve for geo-strategic matters.

    War is a fluid concept, and this fluidity is about draining and exhausting your enemy, the U.S has not really entered the theater yet, and don't believe the U.S don't have a strong army...they can find plenty of good soldiers in 350 million people.

    Replies: @QCIC

    The Russian military knows the West will drip feed the AFU and most likely they don’t care. Russia is probably focussed on the post-SMO situation now.

    It would interesting to know what Russia is doing with newly produced armaments. Let’s say they build 500 high performance tactical missiles next month. How many go to the SMO and how many to the rest of the Russian forces across the country? Of the ones for the SMO, how many are used right away and how many are kept for future combat?

    Ukie backers would say 100% go to the SMO where 90% are immediately shot down. I would guess 60% go to the SMO and 40% to stockpiles in the rest of Russia. Of the 60% maybe half are used as soon as possible. In other words the stockpile for SMO work may be increasing over time even while Russia is regularly launching strikes.

    So my guess is:

    30% are used right away of which 75% get through Ukrainian air defenses
    30% are stockpiled for the SMO
    40% are stockpiled in the rest of the Russian Federation.

    Why does Russia need to go fast in Ukraine? If they keep going at a medium level through the winter, Ukrainian morale will begin to slip faster. If the Ukrainians have already press-ganged men and boys on the streets and accepted female combat troops how much longer can they really go on? On the other hand Russia gets more seasoned combat vets with hard winter experience. They can use this this now that Finland has joined NATO and other Northern countries have become more polarized against Russia.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Why does Russia need to go fast in Ukraine? If they keep going at a medium level through the winter, Ukrainian morale will begin to slip faster.

    I guess you haven't been reading the news.

    They have been throwing waves of men and armor at Avdiivka.

    Putin is most likely trying to get a symbolic victory before the winter sets in.

    Which means he isn't on your imagined timeline. A Russian will explain the situation to you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0uQqivncAc

    It's a great day to die for an angry dwarf who most likely has a micropenis.

    Replies: @QCIC

  129. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    No, they’re not.
     
    If you tell me how many decades ago you moved to America.

    I'll tell you what year I moved to Singapore. Here's a hint it was a long time ago and not from America.

    Is that a deal?

    And you can cut the any bullshit about me not being a “Native Singaporean”, are you a “Native American”?

    Replies: @LatW

    [MORE]

    And you can cut the any bullshit about me not being a “Native Singaporean”, are you a “Native American”?

    I could always claim to be “part Uralic”. You should be able to get the joke. I wonder if I could claim that somewhere for some potential goodies or preferences. It might work these days. (Jk.)

    Is that a deal?

    I have another suggestion – let’s cut down on unneeded animosity. I can spar, if I have to, and if I feel like it’s fun, but it can be a waste of time. And why spread negative, toxic vibes in an already complicated world?

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    I can spar, if I have to, and if I feel like it’s fun,
     
    I don't have a problem with you inserting yourself into discussion Bromance and I are having. It adds spice.

    You've got bigger balls than he has. (Jk.)

    If you want to learn what real cruelty and depravity is read up on what his people did to mine, your people had it easier in comparison.

    Replies: @LatW

  130. @LatW
    @AP


    The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.
     
    "Russia never forgives friendship with her," says Ayder Muzhdabayev (a Crimean (Krimchak) critic of the Kremlin).

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @AnonfromTN

    To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
    Henry Kissinger

    He knew what he was talking about.

  131. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    I thought you mentioned once that you had had an encounter with some Western woman at your work, years ago, was that in China?

    Well, I might be wrong, but you do sound like someone who is parked somewhere in the West. You don't really sound like an original Chinese, but I might be wrong, ofc. What is the truth (maybe better to speak the truth instead of calling names?). No, seriously, why so angry, the world is not how you wish it should be and you can't bend it to your mind? The "multi-polar world" didn't really work out the way it was hoped or something? I at least accept that different people in the world have different interests.

    I offered you yesterday to calm down and not have enmity or agitate each other, yet you choose to continue to be needlessly hostile. Why?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  132. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    And you can cut the any bullshit about me not being a “Native Singaporean”, are you a “Native American”?
     
    I could always claim to be "part Uralic". You should be able to get the joke. I wonder if I could claim that somewhere for some potential goodies or preferences. It might work these days. (Jk.)

    Is that a deal?
     
    I have another suggestion - let's cut down on unneeded animosity. I can spar, if I have to, and if I feel like it's fun, but it can be a waste of time. And why spread negative, toxic vibes in an already complicated world?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I can spar, if I have to, and if I feel like it’s fun,

    I don’t have a problem with you inserting yourself into discussion Bromance and I are having. It adds spice.

    You’ve got bigger balls than he has. (Jk.)

    If you want to learn what real cruelty and depravity is read up on what his people did to mine, your people had it easier in comparison.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    I don’t have a problem with you inserting yourself into discussion Bromance and I are having. It adds spice.
     
    Hmm, ok, if you see it that way. I only inserted myself to defend the Bear-Slayer. :)

    You’ve got bigger balls than he has. (Jk.)
     
    LOL. I can state my mind, maybe too much sometimes. He's just more mellow and conflict avoidant (the opposite of you, lol). I thought he was a Japanophile Chinese, not Japanese.

    If you want to learn what real cruelty and depravity is read up on what his people did to mine, your people had it easier in comparison.
     
    I have. I read about it a long time ago (and I saw a picture of a young woman holding her infant that left a mark on me). I never said they were not extremely cruel at times. I even watched a movie about it. It was crazy and very difficult to watch.

    I know that the people further East had it harder, Ukrainians too had it harder than the Baltic people. Various Asian peoples have had it hard through periods of colonization. But we had a dual Russo-German yoke for a long time.

    As to the Russians, they were quite aggressive in that area (it is understandable, as they wanted access to the water), however, they were pushing hard, the Japanese had reasons to feel uncomfortable, they had pushed hard through Asia very fast, colonizing, even if they were underdeveloped. They spread out but they don't go into depth properly. And Baltic people being present in that war, and dying, was a waste of our human capital (not to mention unethical), even though it was a hardening experience that later proved useful.


    Please clarify for the audience what you mean by this.
     
    You wrote that out of the blue, I thought you were talking about a Western woman. I must've been mistaken.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  133. @AP
    @LatW

    The one at the Chicago Botanical Garden is impressive

    https://live.staticflickr.com/3948/15581858036_cc9e069cfe_b.jpg

    Replies: @LatW

    Such beauty and such great combinations of colors and shapes. But it looks almost too tidy, too perfect, almost like divine creation or something crafted by timeless evolution, while it is just a caring human hand, almost as if caressing the landscape. One can see though, with the trees in the background, that it is a different climate than the Pacific, one can see those trees are from much colder climes. It is a bit more rugged.

  134. @QCIC
    @Mr_Chow_Mein

    The Russian military knows the West will drip feed the AFU and most likely they don't care. Russia is probably focussed on the post-SMO situation now.

    It would interesting to know what Russia is doing with newly produced armaments. Let's say they build 500 high performance tactical missiles next month. How many go to the SMO and how many to the rest of the Russian forces across the country? Of the ones for the SMO, how many are used right away and how many are kept for future combat?

    Ukie backers would say 100% go to the SMO where 90% are immediately shot down. I would guess 60% go to the SMO and 40% to stockpiles in the rest of Russia. Of the 60% maybe half are used as soon as possible. In other words the stockpile for SMO work may be increasing over time even while Russia is regularly launching strikes.

    So my guess is:

    30% are used right away of which 75% get through Ukrainian air defenses
    30% are stockpiled for the SMO
    40% are stockpiled in the rest of the Russian Federation.

    Why does Russia need to go fast in Ukraine? If they keep going at a medium level through the winter, Ukrainian morale will begin to slip faster. If the Ukrainians have already press-ganged men and boys on the streets and accepted female combat troops how much longer can they really go on? On the other hand Russia gets more seasoned combat vets with hard winter experience. They can use this this now that Finland has joined NATO and other Northern countries have become more polarized against Russia.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Why does Russia need to go fast in Ukraine? If they keep going at a medium level through the winter, Ukrainian morale will begin to slip faster.

    I guess you haven’t been reading the news.

    They have been throwing waves of men and armor at Avdiivka.

    Putin is most likely trying to get a symbolic victory before the winter sets in.

    Which means he isn’t on your imagined timeline. A Russian will explain the situation to you:

    It’s a great day to die for an angry dwarf who most likely has a micropenis.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The Western news says the opposite of other international news sources. Which sources are more accurate, if any? We will probably find out some of the truth eventually. In the mean time I speculate based on reasonably well accepted facts about Russian military and industry.

    Your obsession with Putin seems to be getting worse.

    As therapy, you may want to try the following. There are a couple of big winners in here (0:30, 1:47, 4:30) mixed in with some meh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CvDQYzoS3g

    Replies: @John Johnson

  135. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    I thought you mentioned once that you had had an encounter with some Western woman at your work, years ago, was that in China?

    Well, I might be wrong, but you do sound like someone who is parked somewhere in the West. You don't really sound like an original Chinese, but I might be wrong, ofc. What is the truth (maybe better to speak the truth instead of calling names?). No, seriously, why so angry, the world is not how you wish it should be and you can't bend it to your mind? The "multi-polar world" didn't really work out the way it was hoped or something? I at least accept that different people in the world have different interests.

    I offered you yesterday to calm down and not have enmity or agitate each other, yet you choose to continue to be needlessly hostile. Why?

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I thought you mentioned once that you had had an encounter with some Western woman at your work, years ago,

    Please clarify for the audience what you mean by this.

    Many people will get the wrong idea.

    She was not a Westerner nor was she Chinese.

  136. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    I can spar, if I have to, and if I feel like it’s fun,
     
    I don't have a problem with you inserting yourself into discussion Bromance and I are having. It adds spice.

    You've got bigger balls than he has. (Jk.)

    If you want to learn what real cruelty and depravity is read up on what his people did to mine, your people had it easier in comparison.

    Replies: @LatW

    [MORE]

    I don’t have a problem with you inserting yourself into discussion Bromance and I are having. It adds spice.

    Hmm, ok, if you see it that way. I only inserted myself to defend the Bear-Slayer. 🙂

    You’ve got bigger balls than he has. (Jk.)

    LOL. I can state my mind, maybe too much sometimes. He’s just more mellow and conflict avoidant (the opposite of you, lol). I thought he was a Japanophile Chinese, not Japanese.

    If you want to learn what real cruelty and depravity is read up on what his people did to mine, your people had it easier in comparison.

    I have. I read about it a long time ago (and I saw a picture of a young woman holding her infant that left a mark on me). I never said they were not extremely cruel at times. I even watched a movie about it. It was crazy and very difficult to watch.

    I know that the people further East had it harder, Ukrainians too had it harder than the Baltic people. Various Asian peoples have had it hard through periods of colonization. But we had a dual Russo-German yoke for a long time.

    As to the Russians, they were quite aggressive in that area (it is understandable, as they wanted access to the water), however, they were pushing hard, the Japanese had reasons to feel uncomfortable, they had pushed hard through Asia very fast, colonizing, even if they were underdeveloped. They spread out but they don’t go into depth properly. And Baltic people being present in that war, and dying, was a waste of our human capital (not to mention unethical), even though it was a hardening experience that later proved useful.

    Please clarify for the audience what you mean by this.

    You wrote that out of the blue, I thought you were talking about a Western woman. I must’ve been mistaken.

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    I thought he was a Japanophile Chinese, not Japanese.
     
    Yeah and your one of the Russophobe Vecticībnieki. 😄

    Replies: @LatW, @Gerard1234

  137. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Why does Russia need to go fast in Ukraine? If they keep going at a medium level through the winter, Ukrainian morale will begin to slip faster.

    I guess you haven't been reading the news.

    They have been throwing waves of men and armor at Avdiivka.

    Putin is most likely trying to get a symbolic victory before the winter sets in.

    Which means he isn't on your imagined timeline. A Russian will explain the situation to you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0uQqivncAc

    It's a great day to die for an angry dwarf who most likely has a micropenis.

    Replies: @QCIC

    The Western news says the opposite of other international news sources. Which sources are more accurate, if any? We will probably find out some of the truth eventually. In the mean time I speculate based on reasonably well accepted facts about Russian military and industry.

    Your obsession with Putin seems to be getting worse.

    As therapy, you may want to try the following. There are a couple of big winners in here (0:30, 1:47, 4:30) mixed in with some meh.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    The Western news says the opposite of other international news sources. Which sources are more accurate, if any?

    I don't see any contradictory information. International media sources have reported that Russia has been throwing armored columns at Adiivka. Videos from Russians appear to confirm heavy losses and meat wave type attacks. There are drone videos from Ukraine showing graveyards of APCs.

    In the mean time I speculate based on reasonably well accepted facts about Russian military and industry.

    Are you suggesting that they are not trying to take Avdiivka?

    Your obsession with Putin seems to be getting worse.

    I don't see how. I've always assumed he has a very small penis.

    It takes a very special level of insecurity to be the world's richest man and in charge of the world's largest country and yet engage in ego fulfilling behavior where other people have to die.

    As for your video I didn't find it funny at all. Kind of reminded me of 21 jumpstreet with the corny and denigrating take on police work but without the occasional laugh. On an interesting side note that was the movie that made Kanye like Jews again. Poor Anglin had a magic negro crush on Kanye for ranting about the Jews but that movie put an end to it.

    Kanye decides that he likes Jews again after watching 21 Jumpstreet:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-jonah-hill-21-jump-street-jewish-people-1234703761/

    Replies: @QCIC

  138. @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere


    I don’t have a problem with you inserting yourself into discussion Bromance and I are having. It adds spice.
     
    Hmm, ok, if you see it that way. I only inserted myself to defend the Bear-Slayer. :)

    You’ve got bigger balls than he has. (Jk.)
     
    LOL. I can state my mind, maybe too much sometimes. He's just more mellow and conflict avoidant (the opposite of you, lol). I thought he was a Japanophile Chinese, not Japanese.

    If you want to learn what real cruelty and depravity is read up on what his people did to mine, your people had it easier in comparison.
     
    I have. I read about it a long time ago (and I saw a picture of a young woman holding her infant that left a mark on me). I never said they were not extremely cruel at times. I even watched a movie about it. It was crazy and very difficult to watch.

    I know that the people further East had it harder, Ukrainians too had it harder than the Baltic people. Various Asian peoples have had it hard through periods of colonization. But we had a dual Russo-German yoke for a long time.

    As to the Russians, they were quite aggressive in that area (it is understandable, as they wanted access to the water), however, they were pushing hard, the Japanese had reasons to feel uncomfortable, they had pushed hard through Asia very fast, colonizing, even if they were underdeveloped. They spread out but they don't go into depth properly. And Baltic people being present in that war, and dying, was a waste of our human capital (not to mention unethical), even though it was a hardening experience that later proved useful.


    Please clarify for the audience what you mean by this.
     
    You wrote that out of the blue, I thought you were talking about a Western woman. I must've been mistaken.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I thought he was a Japanophile Chinese, not Japanese.

    Yeah and your one of the Russophobe Vecticībnieki. 😄

    • LOL: LatW
    • Replies: @LatW
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere



    Haha. You are intelligent and have a fast mind, I'll give you that.

    , @Gerard1234
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Just to repeat my reply from the previous thread you may have missed :


    Yea, Riga does count very much – since Riga was mostly built by Germans and Latvians. They did not have a substantial presence compared to Latvians. Do not ever bring up Riga again in these conversations.

     

    Wow, I could not let this garbage written to Beckow pass.
    This is ridiculous….the first Riga architect that enters anyones head immediately is Eisenstein you idiot. Technically Jewish, but more than classifies enough to be considered a Russian architect. Then second name is Antonov – with him and Eisenstein the quality and quantity of their buildings around Riga is what makes them the primary ones anybody thinks of. Then after that its several excellent german architects, Swedes,Jews and many more Russian architects and engineers. Only AFTER that list do we get to minuscule number of Latvians “building” Riga you retarded idiot. Even then most of that small number were educated in Saint Petersburg. How can trash like you lie so much?

    Outside of Old Riga (which still has several buildings designed by Russian architects, and of course zero by Latvian ones) – what wasn’t designed by Russians …..was built ENTIRELY on RUSSIAN money, and ALL these were project managed by Russians , on orders of RUSSIANS so that these structures suit RUSSIAN tastes and interests you serial dumbfuck.

    I just can’t believe how much of a lying POS you have to be to write that nonsense to Beckow.
    The Riga Market is impossible to miss…….and entirely built by Russians. There is the Cultural Palace, I think the Latvian Central Bank building is Russian built, the massive bandstand at Mezhapark entirely Soviet/Russian project you imbecile in the architecture and the ethos of it ( travelling in Europe I haven’t seen a bandstand close to the size or style). MinNauk building is basically like one of the Seven sisters and, again, impossible to miss as the tallest building in Riga. The old stock exchange. The Ridzene hotel a typical soviet beauty ( and I think the top 3 hotels that I know of there are Russian built)

    Then of course there is the Gorky bridge (and ANY bridge over the Daugava you dipshit), and EVERY bit of big public infrastructure that exists in Riga providing the water, heat, taking the sewage away of anybody living in Riga, road – EVERYTHING is Russian made , mainly from the Soviets but plenty from Tsarist era.

    Whole neighbourhoods of the Riga conurbation built by the Soviets/Russians. Several well-known mansions from Tsarists times designed by Russians around Riga.

    Then I clearly remember visiting (as its at the most directly opposite the lovely (German) Riga Cathedral)……….the lovely Russia insurance society building which is definitely Russian-made, with joined to it the Radiodom – which I think was also built by a Russian architect. So in arguably the focal point of the city, the country – the Dom square the biggest and most relaxed square in the city, with the prestigious and beautiful German cathedral…….and directly opposite it around the square are definitely 1 , probably 2 large Russian buildings. Nowhere is there anything Latvian ( except for the retard red/brown – white flags LOL)

    Masses of Old Believers and Russian merchants found there way into Riga pre and early Tsarist era. ROC churches are a HUGE part of Riga you dickhead (certainly for the tourists). Its impossible to imagine Riga without these masterpiece churches, impossible to imagine Riga WITH “latvian” churches. There is the historic Moscow Forshstadt area ( where the MinNauk building is) and going through Riga I remember you can still see several wooden clad buildings………which means RUSSIAN (either Old Believers or Merchants) houses as the others would have the brick or stone exterior buildings. In none of this , is there such a thing as “Latvian” architecture you worthless, lying , pathetic scumbag.

    So key, historic landmarks, key and extensive infrastructure covering the public, cultural, education, finance sectors…. the entire city owing its existence to Russian people and Russian money , LMAO.

    That’s also not even taking into consideration the pre-Tsarist German and Swedish buildings destroyed during WW2 and rebuilt to a wonderful standard by the Soviets ……..or those masterful Tsarist Russian buildings that the Soviets removed, or the some of the masterful Stalinist-era buildings Khrushchev-era removed.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

  139. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The Western news says the opposite of other international news sources. Which sources are more accurate, if any? We will probably find out some of the truth eventually. In the mean time I speculate based on reasonably well accepted facts about Russian military and industry.

    Your obsession with Putin seems to be getting worse.

    As therapy, you may want to try the following. There are a couple of big winners in here (0:30, 1:47, 4:30) mixed in with some meh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CvDQYzoS3g

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The Western news says the opposite of other international news sources. Which sources are more accurate, if any?

    I don’t see any contradictory information. International media sources have reported that Russia has been throwing armored columns at Adiivka. Videos from Russians appear to confirm heavy losses and meat wave type attacks. There are drone videos from Ukraine showing graveyards of APCs.

    In the mean time I speculate based on reasonably well accepted facts about Russian military and industry.

    Are you suggesting that they are not trying to take Avdiivka?

    Your obsession with Putin seems to be getting worse.

    I don’t see how. I’ve always assumed he has a very small penis.

    It takes a very special level of insecurity to be the world’s richest man and in charge of the world’s largest country and yet engage in ego fulfilling behavior where other people have to die.

    As for your video I didn’t find it funny at all. Kind of reminded me of 21 jumpstreet with the corny and denigrating take on police work but without the occasional laugh. On an interesting side note that was the movie that made Kanye like Jews again. Poor Anglin had a magic negro crush on Kanye for ranting about the Jews but that movie put an end to it.

    Kanye decides that he likes Jews again after watching 21 Jumpstreet:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-jonah-hill-21-jump-street-jewish-people-1234703761/

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last "map" video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses. Then we have a ridiculous report from Uncle Sammy on the overall Russian losses. I would like to check the wording to see if the misrepresentation is bad as it seems.

    The best line in the video is where he has to rip through all the dishonest woke language and say "...do they have a hole or a pole"? That is funny because it shows the primitive level that society is being dragged down to by the dishonest woke madness. It is deadly serious but is made funny to hopefully slip through some people's ideological blinders on this topic. The bit with "We've zapped three of them today, they're everywhere this morning" is tragicomedy. This is tragedy because the destruction of reasonable polite society is what makes tyranny more likely. It is comedy in the "it is better to laugh that to cry" category. The stupid cops are foils that could be good or bad depending on the situation, but will always use force. The video has other stupid stuff and f-bombs I didn't like, but the sections I listed are great.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Wokechoke

  140. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    I thought he was a Japanophile Chinese, not Japanese.
     
    Yeah and your one of the Russophobe Vecticībnieki. 😄

    Replies: @LatW, @Gerard1234

    [MORE]

    Haha. You are intelligent and have a fast mind, I’ll give you that.

  141. Ukraine was never going to win – US senator
    https://www.rt.com/news/588986-ukraine-never-win-senator/

    Tommy Tuberville has also dismissed the notion that Russia could invade EU states as just a “selling point”

    —————————–

    Zelensky Presses the Flesh for $ in DC, Lloyd Austin Threatens to Send Families of Republican Congressmen & Senators to Fight Russia, Trump Doesn’t Like Ukraine, US Semiconductor Sanctions Fail, more.
    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/zelensky-presses-the-flesh-for-in?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    Is there video of Austin making the threatening comments, even if couched in political rhetoric? Sounds like potential grounds for immediate firing. When is this mentioned in the interview?

  142. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war, according to US intelligence assessment
     
    I like that number. It gives the game away. It is certainly as credible as the US intelligence claim before Iraq war that Saddam has WMDs.

    Apparently, the dead are now fighting and beating Ukrainian troops to pulp, like in the “The return of the king”.

    The best thing about current US powers-that-be is that they do not need anyone to deceive them, they effectively deceive themselves. Perfect self-service.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …they do not need anyone to deceive them, they effectively deceive themselves.

    It is even worse: they believe that wars are won by PR deceptions. Thy think that if they win in the media (Western house media) that’s all that matters. It is a meta-war: a “war about the war” in front of the public – and themselves. It is closer to self-therapy than to geo-politics.

    The claim of 87% is of course intentionally stupid – not meant to be believed, it is a spit at the enemy as the war is being lost. Germans did very much the same thing in the last year of the war. The actual number of casualties given that Russia had in early 2022 700k active troops – plus the Donbas and other militias like Chechens – would by over 600k….riiiiight, that had to be quite a meeting as they settled on the “number”…I see a few elderly women staring at PowerPoint slides…

    This is very sad, even tragic, but let’s also appreciate the entertainment value that is just precious, it cut sthrough the brain-dead Western culture like a lightning…I am hoping they grab it and make something out of it. But probably not…

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    https://flowofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/mindwar-mindwar_co_authored_by_michael-aquino.pdf

    This is obsolete and replaced by his book.

    https://www.amazon.com/MindWar-Michael-Aquino-Ph-D/dp/1535199563

    They are not only making war on the Russians. They are making war on everybody. No way can it continue forever but it has been going on for a very long time if you ask me. The book is excellent. He leaves out a lot, but what is in there is pretty reliable. I heard an interview with him shortly before he died which might have been his last public interview. He said nine eleven was a controlled demolition job which was obvious to all on the day it happened.

    Replies: @QCIC

  143. @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    However, McConnell’s open capitulation is a huge step forward towards re-establishing America’s national prestige and honour.
     
    What national prestige and honor? From propping up Ukraine and being its largest supporter to doing an abrupt about face and letting it flounder to the financial might of the greatest gas station in the world? The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world. It will equally look like a cowardly nation not worth the ink that it signs in any future agreements, think Budapest Memorandum.

    2-3 months of closer deliberations in the congress should result in a clearer path of Ukrainian support. It aint over till the fat lady sings!

    Replies: @Derer, @Mikel

    The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world.

    All things considered, I consider the US to be the greatest country in the world but other than Israel and perhaps South Korea, I don’t know who else may consider it today to be a very reliable ally.

    If your independence depends on the US continuing to support you indefinitely, you can’t really say that you are an independent country. Apart from the possibility of American internal politics leading to the US doing a Kabul or a Saigon on you, your own internal politics are going to be scrutinized so that you comply with US norms that may not be part of your culture at all. I would certainly hate my country to be a Russian puppet. Just look at repressive and impoverished Belarus. But I don’t think the Russians care about shoving any particular ideology down anybody’s throat these days as much as the American Establishment does. Being such a great country inevitably led the US to become a superpower but sadly, that meant abandoning the non-interventionist spirit of earlier times.

    If I was a Ukrainian military leader I would have serious contingency plans for the possibility of having to face Russia with no military help from the US. Regardless of my thoughts about the tragedy that started in 2014, the Ukrainian military has shown a great deal of competence while the Russians have proven to be weaker and less competent than anybody thought. However, at the end of the day Russia continues to be a huge country with vast human and material resources and capable of fielding many advanced lethal weapons. Everybody should have done much more to avoid this tragic war. Starting by not killing so many of their civilian co-ethnics, as I’ll never tire to repeat.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mikel


    If I was a Ukrainian military leader I would have serious contingency plans for the possibility of having to face Russia with no military help from the US.
     
    What makes you think they don't?

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...Everybody should have done much more to avoid this tragic war.
     
    Nice sentiment, but it assumes that there were not people who wanted the war - not everybody wanted to avoid it. There were Ukies who out of stupidity or because they are fanatics thought that they can only achieve their objectives by a war - Zelko&Co. at least initially were not among them, but now they are.

    The destroy-Russia Nato-uber-alles neo-cons also wanted a war - there was no other way to get what they want: Crimea and to surround Russia militarily so they can try to dismantle it next time it goes through an internal crisis. And Russian security-types who thought that a war now is preferable to waiting until Nato-Ukraine are fully settled.

    The three forces now have a war. As always most of them are not suffering from it at all, they are safely in the back cheering it on...but this was a wanted war and a very much anticipated war.
  144. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    the first big headline after Millei’s election was him pledging allegiance to Israel.
     
    Israel is busily digging its grave. What’s more, Israeli crimes in Gaza damaged the US even more than Israel itself (nobody expected anything good from Israel, anyway). So, if that certifiable mental case wants Argentina to go down with Israel, good luck to him. Except for vulture funds, Argentina is no more important for the world than Kabo Verde or Tuvalu.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Re: https://www.eurasiareview.com/12122023-ukraines-future-oped/

    From a gentle Jewish socialist –

    As for answering your question, which I think is at least a bit rhetorical,
    what else could Putin have done?
    Just about anything except starting an invasion,
    just as Hamas could have done other things besides a pogrom.
    Both those actions must not go unanswered.

    My reply –

    Just as Israel could’ve done other things besides a bigger pogrom than what Hamas did? There’s also the history prior to this past 10/7. As for claims of double standards, Russia has been the party being held to the greater double standard. The banning of the Russian flag and anthem from the upcoming Olympics (being done presently in numerous sports) is sheer bigotry.

    Russia gave peace a seven years chance (regarding the Minsk Accords) as the Kiev regime revamped its arsenal and increased attacks on Donbass.

  145. @Mikel
    @Mr. Hack


    The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world.
     
    All things considered, I consider the US to be the greatest country in the world but other than Israel and perhaps South Korea, I don't know who else may consider it today to be a very reliable ally.

    If your independence depends on the US continuing to support you indefinitely, you can't really say that you are an independent country. Apart from the possibility of American internal politics leading to the US doing a Kabul or a Saigon on you, your own internal politics are going to be scrutinized so that you comply with US norms that may not be part of your culture at all. I would certainly hate my country to be a Russian puppet. Just look at repressive and impoverished Belarus. But I don't think the Russians care about shoving any particular ideology down anybody's throat these days as much as the American Establishment does. Being such a great country inevitably led the US to become a superpower but sadly, that meant abandoning the non-interventionist spirit of earlier times.

    If I was a Ukrainian military leader I would have serious contingency plans for the possibility of having to face Russia with no military help from the US. Regardless of my thoughts about the tragedy that started in 2014, the Ukrainian military has shown a great deal of competence while the Russians have proven to be weaker and less competent than anybody thought. However, at the end of the day Russia continues to be a huge country with vast human and material resources and capable of fielding many advanced lethal weapons. Everybody should have done much more to avoid this tragic war. Starting by not killing so many of their civilian co-ethnics, as I'll never tire to repeat.

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    If I was a Ukrainian military leader I would have serious contingency plans for the possibility of having to face Russia with no military help from the US.

    What makes you think they don’t?

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @LatW


    What makes you think they don’t?
     
    I'm pretty sure they do now. But I'm not sure what the thinking was a year and a half ago. Arestovich's revelations suggest that at least the political leadership felt too secure about the West's commitment and many thousands died and will continue to die for no larger gains than could have been achieved through negotiations then.

    Replies: @LatW

  146. The latest Fink-Dersh debate:

  147. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    I wasn't sure what exactly the charges were and if they were indeed proven. I was going on my recollections, and didn't have any time to research the issue. "Straw man" how so?

    Replies: @songbird

    “Straw man” how so?

    [MORE]

    Well, you said this:

    Not exactly the image of a belligerent country that all host countries want to remove.

    All seems like a very high bar to clear. Nobody else said all.

    Iraq and Syria, which I already cited, are two clear-cut examples of countries where the current governments don’t want US bases, but the US doesn’t care.

    When Iraq’s parliament voted to expel American troops from the country Sunday, it was an apparent bid by the government to extract the country from an escalating US-Iran proxy war.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/middleeast/iraq-us-troops-explainer-intl/index.html

    Support in a lot of other places is mixed, at best.

    Granted, there aren’t insurgencies in most of these places driving US troops out, but that was also true of Soviet bases.

  148. @A123
    @AP

    I accept your apology.

    Thank you for retracting your attempt to revise my original accurate statement. Your admission that my original intent was obvious, clear, and accurate is appreciated.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    I accept your apology.

    I also accept AP’s apology to you. One needs to be magnanimous always.

    However, you may have been too quick to accept AP’s idea that the US is not really spending so much on Ukraine after all. This is a line that he’s kept repeating for months now so there is no hope that he’ll abandon it. He’d rather spend sleepless nights defending it post after post with a hundred graphs. But it doesn’t make any sense. On the one hand, it implies that the Biden Administration could send much lower appropriations requests to Congress by just using a more accurate accounting method with all those depreciated stocks but for some strange reason prefers to inflate the numbers and make the requests even more unlikely to succeed. Impossible to believe.

    On the other hand, it doesn’t even matter. Once Congress approves an appropriations bill it adds to the existing deficit that needs to be compensated either through increased taxes or through increased debt (as long as demand for the gargantuan US debt continues to exist), the interests of which we also have to pay with our taxes. In other words, some 1% of Americans working in the defense sector get richer with a part of those huge aid packages by virtue of Biden taking money out of the pockets of most of us here in this blog but we should feel grateful about it lol.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    However, you may have been too quick to accept AP’s idea that the US is not really spending so much on Ukraine after all
     
    Is much of the $75 billion or whatever in the form of equipment rather than cash? Yes or no?

    And if so, is it incorrect to state that we are sending $75 billion or whatever to Ukraine that could have been spent here?

    Try to be to honest, it’s hard for you in an argument, but do your best.

    And since a lot of the equipment consists of decades-old vehicles that were already paid for when they were made, the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    If Ukraine gets old Bradleys that have been sitting in a warehouse, that the government paid $200 million dollars for when they were made decades ago, no-one is paying that now. We are only paying for transport, but that cost is balanced by us no longer paying for storage and maintenance. But it’s counted as Ukraine getting $200 million dollars worth of Bradleys. And some dishonest guy like your beloved Matt Gaetz will count that as $200 million dollars cash sent to Ukraine that could have fed impoverished Americans, in order to attack the Biden administration and smart centrist Republicans who see this as good policy.

    On the one hand, it implies that the Biden Administration could send much lower appropriations requests to Congress by just using a more accurate accounting method with all those depreciated stocks
     
    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting. It reflects how much the equipment cost when it was made, which they have purchase orders and receipts for. It’s inflated relative to how much it is worth now, but not relative to how much it cost when the Pentagon originally bought it (I am not sure if they use inflation adjustments). Like donating an old unused TV that someone paid $500 for 10 years ago, and having the receipt for that amount. When in reality such a TV would probably be worth $100 if someone tried to sell it today on eBay.

    but for some strange reason prefers to inflate the numbers and make the requests even more unlikely to succeed
     
    Back when there was bipartisan support (in part because the people involved probably understand what I am saying) a high number didn’t matter because everyone was in favor. Perhaps it even was good because it demonstrated a high level of commitment to the world and made it look like the USA was far more supportive than others. It later became a liability when bad actors chose to dishonestly present those numbers as taxpayer dollars being sent abroad.

    It would be funny if the standard accounting practice is abandoned and lower figures are used in the future, without changing the amount of equipment actually being sent to Ukraine. And this would then be successfully sold as “cutting costs.” The higher figures used before will have thus enabled more flexibility later.

    On the other hand, it doesn’t even matter. Once Congress approves an appropriations bill it adds to the existing deficit that needs to be compensated either through increased taxes or through increased debt

     

    How does exaggerating the current value of equipment that has already been paid for long ago, add to the deficit? Nobody is buying the equipment at the exaggerated price.

    Of course that is not the only things that we are sending to Ukraine. Ukraine is also getting a lot of ammo, which indeed is being produced and paid for now:

    In other words, some 1% of Americans working in the defense sector get richer with a part of those huge aid packages by virtue of Biden taking money out of the pockets of most of us here in this blog

     

    This pertains not to sending old equipment, but to sending Ukraine modern ammo such as artillery shells.

    1. Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money. Certainly better than welfare, left-wing NPR propagandists, etc. It helps keep this sector alive, which could be vitally important down the road. We are increasing shell production capacity, which is also a good thing. We are economically helping parts of the country outside the coasts.

    2. In some cases we are sending equipment to Ukraine and then replacing it with newer and better equipment. It’s a process of modernising and improving America’s military. Also a good thing.

    You can argue that we shouldn’t do such things - maybe you feel that America should have a small and weak military, so as not to be tempted to ever go beyond the borders - but don’t pretend that America can’t benefit from it.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikel

  149. @Mikel
    @Mr. Hack


    The US is fast going to lose its prestige of being the leader of the free world, and will be looked upon as an unreliable partner by any future allies and friends left in the world.
     
    All things considered, I consider the US to be the greatest country in the world but other than Israel and perhaps South Korea, I don't know who else may consider it today to be a very reliable ally.

    If your independence depends on the US continuing to support you indefinitely, you can't really say that you are an independent country. Apart from the possibility of American internal politics leading to the US doing a Kabul or a Saigon on you, your own internal politics are going to be scrutinized so that you comply with US norms that may not be part of your culture at all. I would certainly hate my country to be a Russian puppet. Just look at repressive and impoverished Belarus. But I don't think the Russians care about shoving any particular ideology down anybody's throat these days as much as the American Establishment does. Being such a great country inevitably led the US to become a superpower but sadly, that meant abandoning the non-interventionist spirit of earlier times.

    If I was a Ukrainian military leader I would have serious contingency plans for the possibility of having to face Russia with no military help from the US. Regardless of my thoughts about the tragedy that started in 2014, the Ukrainian military has shown a great deal of competence while the Russians have proven to be weaker and less competent than anybody thought. However, at the end of the day Russia continues to be a huge country with vast human and material resources and capable of fielding many advanced lethal weapons. Everybody should have done much more to avoid this tragic war. Starting by not killing so many of their civilian co-ethnics, as I'll never tire to repeat.

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    …Everybody should have done much more to avoid this tragic war.

    Nice sentiment, but it assumes that there were not people who wanted the war – not everybody wanted to avoid it. There were Ukies who out of stupidity or because they are fanatics thought that they can only achieve their objectives by a war – Zelko&Co. at least initially were not among them, but now they are.

    The destroy-Russia Nato-uber-alles neo-cons also wanted a war – there was no other way to get what they want: Crimea and to surround Russia militarily so they can try to dismantle it next time it goes through an internal crisis. And Russian security-types who thought that a war now is preferable to waiting until Nato-Ukraine are fully settled.

    The three forces now have a war. As always most of them are not suffering from it at all, they are safely in the back cheering it on…but this was a wanted war and a very much anticipated war.

  150. @LatW
    @Mikel


    If I was a Ukrainian military leader I would have serious contingency plans for the possibility of having to face Russia with no military help from the US.
     
    What makes you think they don't?

    Replies: @Mikel

    What makes you think they don’t?

    I’m pretty sure they do now. But I’m not sure what the thinking was a year and a half ago. Arestovich’s revelations suggest that at least the political leadership felt too secure about the West’s commitment and many thousands died and will continue to die for no larger gains than could have been achieved through negotiations then.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mikel


    Arestovich’s revelations
     
    He's not entirely wrong, but in his recent statements he is going a bit too far (there have been a few exaggerations which suggests that he isn't entirely objective).

    the West’s commitment
     
    The West doesn't consist only of the US (and it is not even fully clear if the US will bail just yet).

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

  151. @Mikel
    @LatW


    What makes you think they don’t?
     
    I'm pretty sure they do now. But I'm not sure what the thinking was a year and a half ago. Arestovich's revelations suggest that at least the political leadership felt too secure about the West's commitment and many thousands died and will continue to die for no larger gains than could have been achieved through negotiations then.

    Replies: @LatW

    Arestovich’s revelations

    He’s not entirely wrong, but in his recent statements he is going a bit too far (there have been a few exaggerations which suggests that he isn’t entirely objective).

    the West’s commitment

    The West doesn’t consist only of the US (and it is not even fully clear if the US will bail just yet).

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    The US deep state could still escalate in Ukraine, not really to save Ukraine or defeat Russia but mostly as a smokescreen to cover their tracks. The dollar-debt system system has the same stresses and built-in self-destruct mechanism as always and many people have always predicted that a major war would be associated with the transition away from the dollar. The Nulands and other criminals who promoted this conflict are sociopaths who would burn things down just to avoid accountability. Finally, there are a lot of confused and bloodthirsty warriors looking for blood, probably on all sides. Maybe the Ukies were right after all and humanity simply needs a stupid, brutal cleansing war every century to keep ourselves centered. Last time the body count was millions and this time it may be billions.

    , @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Historically both parties have a hard time resisting any type of defense spending. It's one of the few areas where they usually agree.

    Biden and the Democrats know that our asylum policy is a joke. They can't defend it on a rational level which makes a deal more likely.

    Odds thus favor a last minute deal but I wouldn't put it past 60-70%. They could bicker like schoolchildren as usual and then break for their extended vacation. A deal could be reached upon their return if Biden actually holds out over the border and basically loses a game of chicken.

    Biden is highballing with his 75 billion figure which shows he expects a deal. I'm gonna laugh if the GOP compromises on 50 or even 30 billion. That would be snookered by Mr. Magoo.

    20 billion is plenty for another year. The tanks on both sides are getting fouled up by minefields. The F16s are one the way which means they really need more artillery and HIMARs. Maybe some more Bradleys that have been mothballed. The 75 billion is really just a starting point.

    The Hispanic left is against any type of deal:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/progressives-warn-biden-against-trading-border-reforms-for-ukraine-aid/ar-AA1lsHX8

    Weirdly the MAGA right and Hispanic left are on the same side. Trump dorks that think Russia is conservative Christian and Hispanics that want Brazil North. Both however are minorities within their parties.

    Even weirder is that the MAGA right wants to give Israel aid and without anything in return. Israel has a budget surplus and the MAGA loonies want to write them a check. These MAGA Republicans seem to be highly motivated by Christian fatalism. They think Trump is going to beat these felonies cause God is American. Maybe Trump needs to catch some felonies so these loonies re-think things.

  152. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    The Western news says the opposite of other international news sources. Which sources are more accurate, if any?

    I don't see any contradictory information. International media sources have reported that Russia has been throwing armored columns at Adiivka. Videos from Russians appear to confirm heavy losses and meat wave type attacks. There are drone videos from Ukraine showing graveyards of APCs.

    In the mean time I speculate based on reasonably well accepted facts about Russian military and industry.

    Are you suggesting that they are not trying to take Avdiivka?

    Your obsession with Putin seems to be getting worse.

    I don't see how. I've always assumed he has a very small penis.

    It takes a very special level of insecurity to be the world's richest man and in charge of the world's largest country and yet engage in ego fulfilling behavior where other people have to die.

    As for your video I didn't find it funny at all. Kind of reminded me of 21 jumpstreet with the corny and denigrating take on police work but without the occasional laugh. On an interesting side note that was the movie that made Kanye like Jews again. Poor Anglin had a magic negro crush on Kanye for ranting about the Jews but that movie put an end to it.

    Kanye decides that he likes Jews again after watching 21 Jumpstreet:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-jonah-hill-21-jump-street-jewish-people-1234703761/

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last “map” video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses. Then we have a ridiculous report from Uncle Sammy on the overall Russian losses. I would like to check the wording to see if the misrepresentation is bad as it seems.

    The best line in the video is where he has to rip through all the dishonest woke language and say “…do they have a hole or a pole”? That is funny because it shows the primitive level that society is being dragged down to by the dishonest woke madness. It is deadly serious but is made funny to hopefully slip through some people’s ideological blinders on this topic. The bit with “We’ve zapped three of them today, they’re everywhere this morning” is tragicomedy. This is tragedy because the destruction of reasonable polite society is what makes tyranny more likely. It is comedy in the “it is better to laugh that to cry” category. The stupid cops are foils that could be good or bad depending on the situation, but will always use force. The video has other stupid stuff and f-bombs I didn’t like, but the sections I listed are great.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last “map” video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses

    Do you have a link for your map video?

    I haven't seen anything suggesting that Ukraine has taken worse losses in Avdiivka. It appears that once again the fighting favors the defensive and the Russians are sending meat waves.

    Russia is clearly trying to take Avdiivka which shows that Putin is not merely trying to play a long game. He is most likely telling his Generals to "send em anyways" even if they warn of losses. Very similar to Hitler demanding offensives for morale when the war strategy after Stalingrad favored the defense. Putin wants at least a short term political win and is willing to throw untrained and poorly equipped men at the front. Perhaps he can absorb the losses but he is risking a short term political loss if Ukraine can manage to hold on.

    That is funny because it shows the primitive level that society is being dragged down to by the dishonest woke madness. It is deadly serious but is made funny to hopefully slip through some people’s ideological blinders on this topic.

    I only recognize 2 of 16 genders and I didn't find it funny. A bit amateurish but maybe it appeals more to people that feel controlled by woke ideology. I'm not a fan of the Wokester crowd but it is much worse in the cities. The cities are magnets for the identity confused. The libs here normally leave when they turn 18.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Ukies are stretched thin.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  153. @Mikhail
    Ukraine was never going to win – US senator
    https://www.rt.com/news/588986-ukraine-never-win-senator/

    Tommy Tuberville has also dismissed the notion that Russia could invade EU states as just a “selling point”

    -----------------------------

    Zelensky Presses the Flesh for $ in DC, Lloyd Austin Threatens to Send Families of Republican Congressmen & Senators to Fight Russia, Trump Doesn't Like Ukraine, US Semiconductor Sanctions Fail, more.
    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/zelensky-presses-the-flesh-for-in?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    Replies: @QCIC

    Is there video of Austin making the threatening comments, even if couched in political rhetoric? Sounds like potential grounds for immediate firing. When is this mentioned in the interview?

  154. @Beckow
    @AnonfromTN


    ...they do not need anyone to deceive them, they effectively deceive themselves.
     
    It is even worse: they believe that wars are won by PR deceptions. Thy think that if they win in the media (Western house media) that's all that matters. It is a meta-war: a "war about the war" in front of the public - and themselves. It is closer to self-therapy than to geo-politics.

    The claim of 87% is of course intentionally stupid - not meant to be believed, it is a spit at the enemy as the war is being lost. Germans did very much the same thing in the last year of the war. The actual number of casualties given that Russia had in early 2022 700k active troops - plus the Donbas and other militias like Chechens - would by over 600k....riiiiight, that had to be quite a meeting as they settled on the "number"...I see a few elderly women staring at PowerPoint slides...

    This is very sad, even tragic, but let's also appreciate the entertainment value that is just precious, it cut sthrough the brain-dead Western culture like a lightning...I am hoping they grab it and make something out of it. But probably not...

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    https://flowofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/mindwar-mindwar_co_authored_by_michael-aquino.pdf

    This is obsolete and replaced by his book.

    They are not only making war on the Russians. They are making war on everybody. No way can it continue forever but it has been going on for a very long time if you ask me. The book is excellent. He leaves out a lot, but what is in there is pretty reliable. I heard an interview with him shortly before he died which might have been his last public interview. He said nine eleven was a controlled demolition job which was obvious to all on the day it happened.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It is obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition job, yes?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

  155. @LatW
    @Mikel


    Arestovich’s revelations
     
    He's not entirely wrong, but in his recent statements he is going a bit too far (there have been a few exaggerations which suggests that he isn't entirely objective).

    the West’s commitment
     
    The West doesn't consist only of the US (and it is not even fully clear if the US will bail just yet).

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    The US deep state could still escalate in Ukraine, not really to save Ukraine or defeat Russia but mostly as a smokescreen to cover their tracks. The dollar-debt system system has the same stresses and built-in self-destruct mechanism as always and many people have always predicted that a major war would be associated with the transition away from the dollar. The Nulands and other criminals who promoted this conflict are sociopaths who would burn things down just to avoid accountability. Finally, there are a lot of confused and bloodthirsty warriors looking for blood, probably on all sides. Maybe the Ukies were right after all and humanity simply needs a stupid, brutal cleansing war every century to keep ourselves centered. Last time the body count was millions and this time it may be billions.

  156. • Replies: @A123
    @Sher Singh

    Was Pontius Pilate Jewish? Nope.
    Were his Roman soldiers Jewish? Nope.
    Jesus was killed by pantheists.

    A key difference is proselytization:
        • Jews were not trying to convert Christians to Judaism.
        • Pagans would try to pull believers away from Christianity.
    The need to place tighter limits on pagans is fairly obvious in terms of survival.


    Other critical difference are population and timing -- in the Empire generally & Rome specifically.

        • How many Jews were there at the heart of the Holy Roman Empire? Not many. Those who voluntarily travelled to Rome would likely be well off with a good reason to be there.

    For those in the Eastern Empire, they had been effectively integrated for hundreds of years. Many Jewish leaders actively supported imperial rule, and thus were supported by the empire. How much do you want to bet that the term "especially pious" is not actual piety? It is more likely code. Think patronage. The Empire designates specific senior rabbis to grant limited numbers of exemptions, including their own family members. Bought loyalty is always a bit chancy, but not a bad technique in outlying territories.

        • How many pagans were there at the heart of the Holy Roman Empire? Many. They were often brought back as slaves, after various campaign.

    There was no history of successfully co-opting pagan religious leaders. The last thing the Empire wanted was charismatic opposition leaders appearing within their own borders. Thus breaking paganism was a necessary element for the secular side of the structure. It also served religious leaders in the Empire, as it opened the door to proselytizing and converting former pagans.
    ___

    Ask this better question -- Why wouldn't Christian Emperors protect a well integrated, useful, & non-threatening sect that shared some beliefs, including the Ten Commandments?
    ___

    The weird fetish of blaming "100% of all Jews" for problems never makes any sense. Every religion is plagued by tiny sub groups of the population misbehaving to become powerful. Calling out specific oligarchs is a good idea. But, when have oligarchs effectively represented their associated populations? It does happen from time to time, but it is not a reliable logical construct for broad application.

    Would a group foul oligarchs who happened to be Sikhs make "100% of all Sikhs" pariahs, responsible for global sin?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

  157. @LatW
    @Mikel


    Arestovich’s revelations
     
    He's not entirely wrong, but in his recent statements he is going a bit too far (there have been a few exaggerations which suggests that he isn't entirely objective).

    the West’s commitment
     
    The West doesn't consist only of the US (and it is not even fully clear if the US will bail just yet).

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Historically both parties have a hard time resisting any type of defense spending. It’s one of the few areas where they usually agree.

    Biden and the Democrats know that our asylum policy is a joke. They can’t defend it on a rational level which makes a deal more likely.

    Odds thus favor a last minute deal but I wouldn’t put it past 60-70%. They could bicker like schoolchildren as usual and then break for their extended vacation. A deal could be reached upon their return if Biden actually holds out over the border and basically loses a game of chicken.

    Biden is highballing with his 75 billion figure which shows he expects a deal. I’m gonna laugh if the GOP compromises on 50 or even 30 billion. That would be snookered by Mr. Magoo.

    20 billion is plenty for another year. The tanks on both sides are getting fouled up by minefields. The F16s are one the way which means they really need more artillery and HIMARs. Maybe some more Bradleys that have been mothballed. The 75 billion is really just a starting point.

    The Hispanic left is against any type of deal:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/progressives-warn-biden-against-trading-border-reforms-for-ukraine-aid/ar-AA1lsHX8

    Weirdly the MAGA right and Hispanic left are on the same side. Trump dorks that think Russia is conservative Christian and Hispanics that want Brazil North. Both however are minorities within their parties.

    Even weirder is that the MAGA right wants to give Israel aid and without anything in return. Israel has a budget surplus and the MAGA loonies want to write them a check. These MAGA Republicans seem to be highly motivated by Christian fatalism. They think Trump is going to beat these felonies cause God is American. Maybe Trump needs to catch some felonies so these loonies re-think things.

  158. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    https://flowofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/mindwar-mindwar_co_authored_by_michael-aquino.pdf

    This is obsolete and replaced by his book.

    https://www.amazon.com/MindWar-Michael-Aquino-Ph-D/dp/1535199563

    They are not only making war on the Russians. They are making war on everybody. No way can it continue forever but it has been going on for a very long time if you ask me. The book is excellent. He leaves out a lot, but what is in there is pretty reliable. I heard an interview with him shortly before he died which might have been his last public interview. He said nine eleven was a controlled demolition job which was obvious to all on the day it happened.

    Replies: @QCIC

    It is obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition job, yes?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    All here at unz includes complete whackos. I am pretty sure it is not obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition. P~.9. There is an epidemic of post traumatic stress disorder on planet earth, all of planet earth. That is a reality distortion field of awesome power. None of us is immune. Looking at JFK's head splattered and thousands of people squashed by the towers over and over again is trauma.

    In r/military a couple of days ago they had a video of the remains of a Russian column wiped out by a HIMARS with a cluster munitions warhead of 200 000 tungsten beads which is designed to kill every living creature within a 300 m radius.

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    It is obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition job, yes?

    A demolition job after the planes hit? Is that what you are saying?

    Or just building 7?

    Replies: @QCIC

  159. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It is obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition job, yes?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    All here at unz includes complete whackos. I am pretty sure it is not obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition. P~.9. There is an epidemic of post traumatic stress disorder on planet earth, all of planet earth. That is a reality distortion field of awesome power. None of us is immune. Looking at JFK’s head splattered and thousands of people squashed by the towers over and over again is trauma.

    In r/military a couple of days ago they had a video of the remains of a Russian column wiped out by a HIMARS with a cluster munitions warhead of 200 000 tungsten beads which is designed to kill every living creature within a 300 m radius.

  160. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last "map" video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses. Then we have a ridiculous report from Uncle Sammy on the overall Russian losses. I would like to check the wording to see if the misrepresentation is bad as it seems.

    The best line in the video is where he has to rip through all the dishonest woke language and say "...do they have a hole or a pole"? That is funny because it shows the primitive level that society is being dragged down to by the dishonest woke madness. It is deadly serious but is made funny to hopefully slip through some people's ideological blinders on this topic. The bit with "We've zapped three of them today, they're everywhere this morning" is tragicomedy. This is tragedy because the destruction of reasonable polite society is what makes tyranny more likely. It is comedy in the "it is better to laugh that to cry" category. The stupid cops are foils that could be good or bad depending on the situation, but will always use force. The video has other stupid stuff and f-bombs I didn't like, but the sections I listed are great.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Wokechoke

    I don’t keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last “map” video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses

    Do you have a link for your map video?

    I haven’t seen anything suggesting that Ukraine has taken worse losses in Avdiivka. It appears that once again the fighting favors the defensive and the Russians are sending meat waves.

    Russia is clearly trying to take Avdiivka which shows that Putin is not merely trying to play a long game. He is most likely telling his Generals to “send em anyways” even if they warn of losses. Very similar to Hitler demanding offensives for morale when the war strategy after Stalingrad favored the defense. Putin wants at least a short term political win and is willing to throw untrained and poorly equipped men at the front. Perhaps he can absorb the losses but he is risking a short term political loss if Ukraine can manage to hold on.

    That is funny because it shows the primitive level that society is being dragged down to by the dishonest woke madness. It is deadly serious but is made funny to hopefully slip through some people’s ideological blinders on this topic.

    I only recognize 2 of 16 genders and I didn’t find it funny. A bit amateurish but maybe it appeals more to people that feel controlled by woke ideology. I’m not a fan of the Wokester crowd but it is much worse in the cities. The cities are magnets for the identity confused. The libs here normally leave when they turn 18.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the source for the map video I mentioned was the "Deer Friends" person. Here is the latest one which popped up. I skimmed it very briefly, more dead people on both sides.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pckz1K8Ou3w

    Replies: @John Johnson

  161. @AP
    @Beckow


    I am not sure about Russia, but Ukraine is definitely paying a very steep price.
     
    Russia has lost about 100k+ dead and counting, lots of military equipment, and an economy that is a lot worse than would have been otherwise.

    They had the option of being rich, neutral, populous country, wealthy in resources, trading with both EU and Russia
     
    When Ukraine pursued a neutral policy it was the second poorest country in Europe only Moldova, another country pursuing a neutral policy - was poorer.

    Ukraine was finally catching up after 2016, so Russia invaded.

    regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent.

    Not true, Kiev has received at least $40 billion in cash from US and EU.
     
    The snippet you cut out referred specifically to the value of the equipment Ukraine was getting.

    This was the full paragraph that snippet came from:

    "A lot of that amount [aid] is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren’t sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn’t cash being sent."

    no wonder they are asking for C130 planes now, to take all that cash out to safe havens is a logistic nightmare. The Afghani guy 2 years ago put it in a few bags and flew to Dubai in his private jet. But he was a small player and Arabs don’t ask too many questions. Ukraine is different, how much of that cash do you think has been stolen?
     
    Do you have significant evidence of cash being stolen and/or removed in airplanes?

    In retrospect the damned Yanuk had the most rational policy: internal equality of Ukies and Russians, and playing Moscow against Brussels to get something from each.
     
    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    Those Ukrainians who wanted to move towards Russia would have been better off not voting for Ukrainian independence back in 1991. Much less suffering that way. The raison d’etre of Ukrainian independence was to eventually join the European Union, which ultimately is much more impressive than the Soviet Union was anyway (many more people of higher average quality).

  162. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It is obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition job, yes?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    It is obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition job, yes?

    A demolition job after the planes hit? Is that what you are saying?

    Or just building 7?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    All the above.

    I look at the "big picture" on 911 as with Ukraine, so I don't have much to say about the details as interesting as they are. The main point is the overall story is full of lies all the way down. The problem is not just any particular lie, but the weight of the lies.

    Pre-installed demolition was apparently involved and was likely more consequential than aircraft.

  163. @Mikel
    @A123


    I accept your apology.
     
    I also accept AP's apology to you. One needs to be magnanimous always.

    However, you may have been too quick to accept AP's idea that the US is not really spending so much on Ukraine after all. This is a line that he's kept repeating for months now so there is no hope that he'll abandon it. He'd rather spend sleepless nights defending it post after post with a hundred graphs. But it doesn't make any sense. On the one hand, it implies that the Biden Administration could send much lower appropriations requests to Congress by just using a more accurate accounting method with all those depreciated stocks but for some strange reason prefers to inflate the numbers and make the requests even more unlikely to succeed. Impossible to believe.

    On the other hand, it doesn't even matter. Once Congress approves an appropriations bill it adds to the existing deficit that needs to be compensated either through increased taxes or through increased debt (as long as demand for the gargantuan US debt continues to exist), the interests of which we also have to pay with our taxes. In other words, some 1% of Americans working in the defense sector get richer with a part of those huge aid packages by virtue of Biden taking money out of the pockets of most of us here in this blog but we should feel grateful about it lol.

    Replies: @AP

    However, you may have been too quick to accept AP’s idea that the US is not really spending so much on Ukraine after all

    Is much of the $75 billion or whatever in the form of equipment rather than cash? Yes or no?

    And if so, is it incorrect to state that we are sending $75 billion or whatever to Ukraine that could have been spent here?

    Try to be to honest, it’s hard for you in an argument, but do your best.

    And since a lot of the equipment consists of decades-old vehicles that were already paid for when they were made, the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    If Ukraine gets old Bradleys that have been sitting in a warehouse, that the government paid $200 million dollars for when they were made decades ago, no-one is paying that now. We are only paying for transport, but that cost is balanced by us no longer paying for storage and maintenance. But it’s counted as Ukraine getting $200 million dollars worth of Bradleys. And some dishonest guy like your beloved Matt Gaetz will count that as $200 million dollars cash sent to Ukraine that could have fed impoverished Americans, in order to attack the Biden administration and smart centrist Republicans who see this as good policy.

    On the one hand, it implies that the Biden Administration could send much lower appropriations requests to Congress by just using a more accurate accounting method with all those depreciated stocks

    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting. It reflects how much the equipment cost when it was made, which they have purchase orders and receipts for. It’s inflated relative to how much it is worth now, but not relative to how much it cost when the Pentagon originally bought it (I am not sure if they use inflation adjustments). Like donating an old unused TV that someone paid $500 for 10 years ago, and having the receipt for that amount. When in reality such a TV would probably be worth $100 if someone tried to sell it today on eBay.

    but for some strange reason prefers to inflate the numbers and make the requests even more unlikely to succeed

    Back when there was bipartisan support (in part because the people involved probably understand what I am saying) a high number didn’t matter because everyone was in favor. Perhaps it even was good because it demonstrated a high level of commitment to the world and made it look like the USA was far more supportive than others. It later became a liability when bad actors chose to dishonestly present those numbers as taxpayer dollars being sent abroad.

    It would be funny if the standard accounting practice is abandoned and lower figures are used in the future, without changing the amount of equipment actually being sent to Ukraine. And this would then be successfully sold as “cutting costs.” The higher figures used before will have thus enabled more flexibility later.

    On the other hand, it doesn’t even matter. Once Congress approves an appropriations bill it adds to the existing deficit that needs to be compensated either through increased taxes or through increased debt

    How does exaggerating the current value of equipment that has already been paid for long ago, add to the deficit? Nobody is buying the equipment at the exaggerated price.

    Of course that is not the only things that we are sending to Ukraine. Ukraine is also getting a lot of ammo, which indeed is being produced and paid for now:

    In other words, some 1% of Americans working in the defense sector get richer with a part of those huge aid packages by virtue of Biden taking money out of the pockets of most of us here in this blog

    This pertains not to sending old equipment, but to sending Ukraine modern ammo such as artillery shells.

    1. Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money. Certainly better than welfare, left-wing NPR propagandists, etc. It helps keep this sector alive, which could be vitally important down the road. We are increasing shell production capacity, which is also a good thing. We are economically helping parts of the country outside the coasts.

    2. In some cases we are sending equipment to Ukraine and then replacing it with newer and better equipment. It’s a process of modernising and improving America’s military. Also a good thing.

    You can argue that we shouldn’t do such things – maybe you feel that America should have a small and weak military, so as not to be tempted to ever go beyond the borders – but don’t pretend that America can’t benefit from it.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Based on my casual observations the total amount of equipment supplied by the USA to Ukraine seems very small (the number of old tanks, missiles, Patriot systems) compared to the dollar figures given. I wonder if the difference is in cash payouts to various Ukrainians? This suspicion is based on known (or perceived) criminality of Ukrainian oligarchs as well as known financial malfeasance of US military contractors in Afghanistan and other recent conflicts.

    The valuation ambiguities you mention could play an important role, especially in money laundering.


    +++

    Someone mentioned that $8.5 trillion of US Treasury debt needs to be rolled over in 2024. The presenter implied that at the current interest rate this is fiscally impossible so the interest rate will be reduced and inflation growth will accelerate again. This seems more serious than the financial problems Russia is facing.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mikel
    @AP


    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.
     
    Of course it's all being paid by us taxpayers.

    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds. There is no such thing as getting a supplemental appropriations bill approved without adding to the deficit. Period. Technically speaking, I guess the bill adds to the deficit when the government actually uses the Treasury to allocate the funds but that's what the bill does: allow the executive to use the Treasury for the requested purpose.

    I'm not going to repeat how an increased deficit is paid for. If you don't know that, any further discussion is a total waste of time.

    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting.
     
    I don't know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent. That is the real standard way of accounting. If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all. And that's just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.

    Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money.
     
    Not for those workers and their employers certainly. For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad. We would all choose better uses for the part of that money that comes from our pockets, if given the chance. If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy and we'd all be much richer. Why hasn't anyone thought of that before you?

    Try to be to honest
     
    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer. And while doing it tries to make people here believe that the constitutional and national accounting processes have stopped working as usual or that new brave economic theories have started to come into effect. It is actually you who is doing all those ridiculous claims.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

  164. @LatW
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks, interesting links.


    a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia
     
    It's understandable, but they weren't as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?

    This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia
     
    Great photo, you can tell the guy was totally into languages and "going native". He's German Prussian, btw, so practically Baltic German, one can say.

    "Möllendorff also advocated that Korea enter into an alliance with the Russian Empire to counterbalance Chinese and Japanese influences on the Korean peninsula." (Wiki)

    Alliance is different than being completely swamped. Hard to say what is more useful here, doing translations or political advisory.


    Here’s a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries
     
    Thanks, this was quite an operation, what is fascinating about it is just the sheer geographic span of all these connections and how they trailed and connected towards a common result. Btw, this org, those were not Bolshes, but social democrats of that time, which by today's standards would be a sort of republican or simply people who wanted modernization (which by the European standards of those times just meant basic rights). Also, to stop Russification of local nationalities.

    And the punitive action after 1905 was just insanely brutal (ordered by Nikolai). Executing, whipping to the point where people were crippled for life, torturing, even women. This was done by Tsar's Cossacks that were brought in. When you do that to your subjects, in the 20th century, you should know it's over. Although there was both good and bad in the Empire.

    And, btw, the modern Latvians (and Estonians) themselves do not like addressing this at all - burning the German estates is really looked down upon, as a shameful piece of history, anything openly anti-German is a big "no no" these days, so very different from those times. But once you start educating them, they start having sympathy for those folks who lived a 100 years ago.

    It is good to be able to look at those times with the distance we have now.

    From what I understand, Japan's collaboration with the Poles was deeper but it's interesting to see that it even reached Finns and Latvians. I'm sure a lot can be found in the revolutionary letters and diaries and such.

    Btw, there is a map that shows the route of the ships that went from Latvia towards Japan (the route is Liepaja to Vladivostok), all the way around Africa. I don't know how to post the map but if you open this link and scroll down, in the middle of the article you'll see three maps, and one of them shows it (the smaller one) - a red line that goes through the Suez canal and towards Asia. 30 warships and 25 cargo ships. They were insane.

    You can see it in this link:

    https://enciklopedija.lv/skirklis/64752-Krievijas%E2%80%93Jap%C4%81nas-kar%C5%A1

    Japanese troops in defense positions:

    https://enciklopedija.lv/api/image/original?name=df0390c82195-2986d039-2f42-438f-8173-1746c0e0ee19.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It’s understandable, but they weren’t as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?

    On a related note, why did the Soviet Union not annex North Korea after WWII? Was it for similar reasons as to why it did not annex Mongolia during the decades of the Cold War? Or would annexing North Korea have simply not been accepted by the North Korean population, even by their Communists, due to it looking like a predatory imperialist act?

    Korea as a part of the Russian Empire or, alternatively, as a part of a reformed liberal non-Bolshevik-ruled post-Tsarist Russia would certainly be very interesting. I’m just not sure that it’s actually realistic, unfortunately.

  165. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last "map" video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses. Then we have a ridiculous report from Uncle Sammy on the overall Russian losses. I would like to check the wording to see if the misrepresentation is bad as it seems.

    The best line in the video is where he has to rip through all the dishonest woke language and say "...do they have a hole or a pole"? That is funny because it shows the primitive level that society is being dragged down to by the dishonest woke madness. It is deadly serious but is made funny to hopefully slip through some people's ideological blinders on this topic. The bit with "We've zapped three of them today, they're everywhere this morning" is tragicomedy. This is tragedy because the destruction of reasonable polite society is what makes tyranny more likely. It is comedy in the "it is better to laugh that to cry" category. The stupid cops are foils that could be good or bad depending on the situation, but will always use force. The video has other stupid stuff and f-bombs I didn't like, but the sections I listed are great.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Wokechoke

    Ukies are stretched thin.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    Ukies are stretched thin in areas where combat is minimal or non-existent and adequate in the hot spots. The concept of using "meat waives" is foreign to the Ukrainian's side and seems a preferred method for the Russian side. Basically, the Ukrainian side seems much more intelligent and focused in using its resources in conducting this war, with very few exceptions.

    https://claytoonz.files.wordpress.com/2022/09/rough1924-1.jpg?w=2048

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  166. @Wokechoke
    @QCIC

    Ukies are stretched thin.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Ukies are stretched thin in areas where combat is minimal or non-existent and adequate in the hot spots. The concept of using “meat waives” is foreign to the Ukrainian’s side and seems a preferred method for the Russian side. Basically, the Ukrainian side seems much more intelligent and focused in using its resources in conducting this war, with very few exceptions.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    Meat Waves?

    Is that on the memo?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  167. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    Ukies are stretched thin in areas where combat is minimal or non-existent and adequate in the hot spots. The concept of using "meat waives" is foreign to the Ukrainian's side and seems a preferred method for the Russian side. Basically, the Ukrainian side seems much more intelligent and focused in using its resources in conducting this war, with very few exceptions.

    https://claytoonz.files.wordpress.com/2022/09/rough1924-1.jpg?w=2048

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Meat Waves?

    Is that on the memo?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    I don't know about "memo", but it's certainly to be seen in Adviivka. Why don't you take your sword out of mothballs and enlist in Putler's army and you can see for yourself first hand? I hear that that they're offering a 5k bonus right now for new conscripts.

    https://central.asia-news.com/cnmi_ca/images/2023/01/26/40456-mobilization_1-739_416.webp
    A fine example of Putler's savvy marketing department, designed to attract patriots like you and Professor Janissary to join and help the cause...soldiers of fortune like kremlinstoogeA123 are welcome too.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  168. @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    Meat Waves?

    Is that on the memo?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I don’t know about “memo”, but it’s certainly to be seen in Adviivka. Why don’t you take your sword out of mothballs and enlist in Putler’s army and you can see for yourself first hand? I hear that that they’re offering a 5k bonus right now for new conscripts.
    A fine example of Putler’s savvy marketing department, designed to attract patriots like you and Professor Janissary to join and help the cause…soldiers of fortune like kremlinstoogeA123 are welcome too.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    You are so fucking wierd m’dude.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  169. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    It is obvious to all here at Unz that 911 was a controlled demolition job, yes?

    A demolition job after the planes hit? Is that what you are saying?

    Or just building 7?

    Replies: @QCIC

    All the above.

    I look at the “big picture” on 911 as with Ukraine, so I don’t have much to say about the details as interesting as they are. The main point is the overall story is full of lies all the way down. The problem is not just any particular lie, but the weight of the lies.

    Pre-installed demolition was apparently involved and was likely more consequential than aircraft.

  170. @John Johnson
    Rural Russians are the biggest saps:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aExw0KKvPt8

    This is exactly what happened with Stalin.

    The people assumed the complaints weren't getting to him. If only Stalin knew!!!!

    Your Tsar knows and he doesn't care. DERRRRR

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    This kind of stuff helps to explain why Putler is causing wars in neighboring countries, in order to to deflect scrutiny exposing the endemic rot within Russia. Of course those that have fled Russia and have managed to to comfortably blend in somewhere in the West, can sit around and bellyache over the time constraints of Minsk 2 agreements, but what of those left behind? They don’t really give a s__t.

  171. @AP
    @Mikel


    However, you may have been too quick to accept AP’s idea that the US is not really spending so much on Ukraine after all
     
    Is much of the $75 billion or whatever in the form of equipment rather than cash? Yes or no?

    And if so, is it incorrect to state that we are sending $75 billion or whatever to Ukraine that could have been spent here?

    Try to be to honest, it’s hard for you in an argument, but do your best.

    And since a lot of the equipment consists of decades-old vehicles that were already paid for when they were made, the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    If Ukraine gets old Bradleys that have been sitting in a warehouse, that the government paid $200 million dollars for when they were made decades ago, no-one is paying that now. We are only paying for transport, but that cost is balanced by us no longer paying for storage and maintenance. But it’s counted as Ukraine getting $200 million dollars worth of Bradleys. And some dishonest guy like your beloved Matt Gaetz will count that as $200 million dollars cash sent to Ukraine that could have fed impoverished Americans, in order to attack the Biden administration and smart centrist Republicans who see this as good policy.

    On the one hand, it implies that the Biden Administration could send much lower appropriations requests to Congress by just using a more accurate accounting method with all those depreciated stocks
     
    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting. It reflects how much the equipment cost when it was made, which they have purchase orders and receipts for. It’s inflated relative to how much it is worth now, but not relative to how much it cost when the Pentagon originally bought it (I am not sure if they use inflation adjustments). Like donating an old unused TV that someone paid $500 for 10 years ago, and having the receipt for that amount. When in reality such a TV would probably be worth $100 if someone tried to sell it today on eBay.

    but for some strange reason prefers to inflate the numbers and make the requests even more unlikely to succeed
     
    Back when there was bipartisan support (in part because the people involved probably understand what I am saying) a high number didn’t matter because everyone was in favor. Perhaps it even was good because it demonstrated a high level of commitment to the world and made it look like the USA was far more supportive than others. It later became a liability when bad actors chose to dishonestly present those numbers as taxpayer dollars being sent abroad.

    It would be funny if the standard accounting practice is abandoned and lower figures are used in the future, without changing the amount of equipment actually being sent to Ukraine. And this would then be successfully sold as “cutting costs.” The higher figures used before will have thus enabled more flexibility later.

    On the other hand, it doesn’t even matter. Once Congress approves an appropriations bill it adds to the existing deficit that needs to be compensated either through increased taxes or through increased debt

     

    How does exaggerating the current value of equipment that has already been paid for long ago, add to the deficit? Nobody is buying the equipment at the exaggerated price.

    Of course that is not the only things that we are sending to Ukraine. Ukraine is also getting a lot of ammo, which indeed is being produced and paid for now:

    In other words, some 1% of Americans working in the defense sector get richer with a part of those huge aid packages by virtue of Biden taking money out of the pockets of most of us here in this blog

     

    This pertains not to sending old equipment, but to sending Ukraine modern ammo such as artillery shells.

    1. Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money. Certainly better than welfare, left-wing NPR propagandists, etc. It helps keep this sector alive, which could be vitally important down the road. We are increasing shell production capacity, which is also a good thing. We are economically helping parts of the country outside the coasts.

    2. In some cases we are sending equipment to Ukraine and then replacing it with newer and better equipment. It’s a process of modernising and improving America’s military. Also a good thing.

    You can argue that we shouldn’t do such things - maybe you feel that America should have a small and weak military, so as not to be tempted to ever go beyond the borders - but don’t pretend that America can’t benefit from it.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikel

    Based on my casual observations the total amount of equipment supplied by the USA to Ukraine seems very small (the number of old tanks, missiles, Patriot systems) compared to the dollar figures given. I wonder if the difference is in cash payouts to various Ukrainians? This suspicion is based on known (or perceived) criminality of Ukrainian oligarchs as well as known financial malfeasance of US military contractors in Afghanistan and other recent conflicts.

    The valuation ambiguities you mention could play an important role, especially in money laundering.

    +++

    Someone mentioned that $8.5 trillion of US Treasury debt needs to be rolled over in 2024. The presenter implied that at the current interest rate this is fiscally impossible so the interest rate will be reduced and inflation growth will accelerate again. This seems more serious than the financial problems Russia is facing.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Based on my casual observations the total amount of equipment supplied by the USA to Ukraine seems very small (the number of old tanks, missiles, Patriot systems) compared to the dollar figures given.

    Military is the largest amount
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-much-aid-the-u-s-has-sent-to-ukraine-in-6-charts

  172. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last “map” video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses

    Do you have a link for your map video?

    I haven't seen anything suggesting that Ukraine has taken worse losses in Avdiivka. It appears that once again the fighting favors the defensive and the Russians are sending meat waves.

    Russia is clearly trying to take Avdiivka which shows that Putin is not merely trying to play a long game. He is most likely telling his Generals to "send em anyways" even if they warn of losses. Very similar to Hitler demanding offensives for morale when the war strategy after Stalingrad favored the defense. Putin wants at least a short term political win and is willing to throw untrained and poorly equipped men at the front. Perhaps he can absorb the losses but he is risking a short term political loss if Ukraine can manage to hold on.

    That is funny because it shows the primitive level that society is being dragged down to by the dishonest woke madness. It is deadly serious but is made funny to hopefully slip through some people’s ideological blinders on this topic.

    I only recognize 2 of 16 genders and I didn't find it funny. A bit amateurish but maybe it appeals more to people that feel controlled by woke ideology. I'm not a fan of the Wokester crowd but it is much worse in the cities. The cities are magnets for the identity confused. The libs here normally leave when they turn 18.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the source for the map video I mentioned was the “Deer Friends” person. Here is the latest one which popped up. I skimmed it very briefly, more dead people on both sides.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Nothing in that video indicates massive losses by Ukraine when defending Avdiivka.

    Replies: @QCIC

  173. @QCIC
    @AP

    Based on my casual observations the total amount of equipment supplied by the USA to Ukraine seems very small (the number of old tanks, missiles, Patriot systems) compared to the dollar figures given. I wonder if the difference is in cash payouts to various Ukrainians? This suspicion is based on known (or perceived) criminality of Ukrainian oligarchs as well as known financial malfeasance of US military contractors in Afghanistan and other recent conflicts.

    The valuation ambiguities you mention could play an important role, especially in money laundering.


    +++

    Someone mentioned that $8.5 trillion of US Treasury debt needs to be rolled over in 2024. The presenter implied that at the current interest rate this is fiscally impossible so the interest rate will be reduced and inflation growth will accelerate again. This seems more serious than the financial problems Russia is facing.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Based on my casual observations the total amount of equipment supplied by the USA to Ukraine seems very small (the number of old tanks, missiles, Patriot systems) compared to the dollar figures given.

    Military is the largest amount
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-much-aid-the-u-s-has-sent-to-ukraine-in-6-charts

  174. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the source for the map video I mentioned was the "Deer Friends" person. Here is the latest one which popped up. I skimmed it very briefly, more dead people on both sides.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pckz1K8Ou3w

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Nothing in that video indicates massive losses by Ukraine when defending Avdiivka.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Your words not mine. I said I haven't paid attention to Avdiika or most other battles. I did say there are lots of causalities on both sides. I appraise the total casualties (KIA) to be much higher on the Ukraine side, but not necessarily so in a particular battle or engagement. Your mileage may vary.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  175. @Sher Singh
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640459736919048202/1184694407375634492/IMG_4008.jpg

    Replies: @A123

    Was Pontius Pilate Jewish? Nope.
    Were his Roman soldiers Jewish? Nope.
    Jesus was killed by pantheists.

    A key difference is proselytization:
        • Jews were not trying to convert Christians to Judaism.
        • Pagans would try to pull believers away from Christianity.
    The need to place tighter limits on pagans is fairly obvious in terms of survival.

    Other critical difference are population and timing — in the Empire generally & Rome specifically.

        • How many Jews were there at the heart of the Holy Roman Empire? Not many. Those who voluntarily travelled to Rome would likely be well off with a good reason to be there.

    For those in the Eastern Empire, they had been effectively integrated for hundreds of years. Many Jewish leaders actively supported imperial rule, and thus were supported by the empire. How much do you want to bet that the term “especially pious” is not actual piety? It is more likely code. Think patronage. The Empire designates specific senior rabbis to grant limited numbers of exemptions, including their own family members. Bought loyalty is always a bit chancy, but not a bad technique in outlying territories.

        • How many pagans were there at the heart of the Holy Roman Empire? Many. They were often brought back as slaves, after various campaign.

    There was no history of successfully co-opting pagan religious leaders. The last thing the Empire wanted was charismatic opposition leaders appearing within their own borders. Thus breaking paganism was a necessary element for the secular side of the structure. It also served religious leaders in the Empire, as it opened the door to proselytizing and converting former pagans.
    ___

    Ask this better question — Why wouldn’t Christian Emperors protect a well integrated, useful, & non-threatening sect that shared some beliefs, including the Ten Commandments?
    ___

    The weird fetish of blaming “100% of all Jews” for problems never makes any sense. Every religion is plagued by tiny sub groups of the population misbehaving to become powerful. Calling out specific oligarchs is a good idea. But, when have oligarchs effectively represented their associated populations? It does happen from time to time, but it is not a reliable logical construct for broad application.

    Would a group foul oligarchs who happened to be Sikhs make “100% of all Sikhs” pariahs, responsible for global sin?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123


    ...when have oligarchs effectively represented their associated populations?
     
    Happens more often than we like to admit. People are always at awe of wealth...

    But let's focus: the ruling party in Israel has in its programme that Israel includes all land between the sea and Jordan river, it specifically excludes the possibility of a Pali state. They constantly repeat it. There are 7 million Palis in Israel-Palestine - only about 1 1/2 million are citizens. 5.5 million people are effectively colonized, powerless subjects - it can't stay that way. Israelis through its government exclude the two-state solution. It is a democracy and the people are after few decades responsible - they have voted again and again for it. Netanyahu is their representative.

    If not a two-state, what is your solution? It can't go on any longer, what do you propose for the 5.5 million Palis living there?

    If you even indirectly start advocating expulsion ("relocation", "voluntary" departure...) you are proposing a genocide. That is a crime. Is that what you want?

    The only other logical alternative is a single state: 7 million Jews and 7 million Palis learn how to live together. That's where it is heading. All else are ugly hatreds and dreams by fanatics. So own up to either calling for a genocide or accepting a single state. It was Israel that refused the two-state solution.

    Replies: @A123

  176. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Nothing in that video indicates massive losses by Ukraine when defending Avdiivka.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Your words not mine. I said I haven’t paid attention to Avdiika or most other battles. I did say there are lots of causalities on both sides. I appraise the total casualties (KIA) to be much higher on the Ukraine side, but not necessarily so in a particular battle or engagement. Your mileage may vary.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Your words not mine.

    Well you made this comment:

    I don’t keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last “map” video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses.

    I haven't seen evidence of massive Ukrainian losses anywhere in the last two months. Practically all of the fighting has been in a single area. The Russians have been on the offensive as Putin is clearly trying to take Avdiivka under some type of time or political pressure.

    I appraise the total casualties (KIA) to be much higher on the Ukraine side, but not necessarily so in a particular battle or engagement.

    I see no reason to assume that the Ukrainians have higher casualties unless you are ignoring Wagner's losses. Even in that case I would be skeptical.

    I would at the very least expect Russia to have a higher kill / casualty loss ratio as they clearly don't value their conscripts and have medical shortages. Meaning Putin would prefer them to die in a ditch rather than come back and tie up a hospital bed.

    It's possible that Ukrainians have a higher casualty count overall but I don't see strong evidence either way. As I said before we will probably never know the actual Russian casualty count as there is widespread evidence that Russia has sent conscripts off the books. Wives are having to send their husbands food so I think rumors of Russia trying to avoid payment for service are most likely true.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDfLpwafGSc

    In fact when the war is over I'm sure we will hear stories from Russian doctors on how they put down patients like dogs. A Belarusian doctor who escaped after the invasion described Russians literally dropping off the dying outside the doors of the hospital. The Russians had completely underestimated the Ukrainians and were not prepared for mass casualties. He had to sneak out with his family as he was understandably afraid of being a threat for knowing too much.

    I bet it will come out that they were putting down quadriplegics and similar cases. There are drone videos in fact of Russians shooting their wounded. It will be just like Nazi Germany where they decide that certain veterans are to be given the "mercy bullet" as the Germans called it.

    Replies: @QCIC

  177. @AP
    @Beckow


    The strategy that had led Ukraine to fall behind both Poland (which move Westward) and Belarus (which moved towards Russia).

    That shows that Ukies beat anyone, east or west, when it comes to stealing.
     
    The Sovoks such as Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

    What does significant stealing mean to you? Kiev got $40 billion in pure cash – how much was stolen? Was it significant to you
     
    I asked you for evidence that a significant portion of the $40 billion in cash assistance was stolen.

    You provided none.

    You want a number? Well, 1% would be significant. Any evidence of $400 million having been stolen? Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft, surely it would be easy to find evidence of that.

    If you believe that Russia lost “100k” soldiers, how
     
    How many do you think Russia has lost since the invasion started in February 2022?

    Or is it 10k as you once claimed?

     

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war (unless I mentioned such a number in early 2022, don’t recall).

    but that doesn’t explain how they ruined their country after 1991
     
    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West. This was when the country fell behind. The reason for this was the Donbas electorate which held Ukraine back. Well, Putin has punished them severely for this. Despite what they had done, they didn’t deserve such cruelty but such is the nature of being next to Russia and being a Russian friend.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW, @Beckow

    …Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.

    So according to you Porky, Timoshenko and the endless oligarchs on Maidan never stole anything? That’s why we think of you as a bit retarded, keep it up.

    “Evidence”? Can you put 2 and 2 together? Zelko’s sponsor Kolomoisky is in jail for a few hundred million he swiped, defense minister was caught red-handed and resigned, Porky and the Kiev “better people” are shopping London, Vienna, Geneva…like there is no tomorrow…buying palaces in Florida. Enough?

    40 billion in cash was sent with no audit – US Congress words, not mine…cars with bags of cash stopped on the border, there are videos..do you want a taped confession? Is that your standard every time corruption takes place around the world? (do you work for Biden?)

    Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft

    They have and media mostly ignores it. We are in a war, these things are trifles and the powers in the West ordered that the media focus on winning the war – anything that would undermine the narrative has been put on ice…Wars are best time for corruption, motivation is sky-high: free money, no future in Ukraine, minimal oversight, welcome mat in the West…is that too complicated for you? but we understand that you have a mind of 10-year old (Viva Habsburgs!!!).

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war

    You did couple months ago…with you usual weasel provisos. But ok, if not 10k or 100k (or 300k that I think is exaggerated) – what is your estimate of Ukie casualties in the war? And also, was it worth it? What has it accomplished?

    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West.

    Ukraine pledged by the Budapest treaty to be neutral. They first broke that with Yushenko – remember the Orange loser with 5% approval in 2010? – then with Maidan. If you swear neutrality and then try to join Nato, you are by definition in violation of everything – all the lame talk today intentionally leaves that out.

    It was Kiev that first bombed and is still bombing Donbas – their own citizens!!! There are 5 million people there, the losses have been less than 1%, they will survive it. But I suspect they will forever remember what you crazy Galician quasi-Nazis did to them. If they ever make it to Kiev or Lviv, it will be ugly. But you don’t care about them – you even suggested that millions of Russian who have lived in that region that became a part of Ukraine should leave. Quite extraordinary to openly call for what would be a genocide. But you guys are so narcissistic you are unable to see it. “Russians?” Damn, anything can be done to them, no rules apply – right?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    So according to you Porky, Timoshenko and the endless oligarchs on Maidan never stole anything
     
    Don’t lie about what I did or didn’t say.

    The Ukrainian economy improved under Poroshenko and Zelensky when they took Ukraine on an unambiguously Western trajectory.

    Evidence”? Can you put 2 and 2 together? Zelko’s sponsor Kolomoisky is in jail for a few hundred million he swiped, defense minister was caught red-handed and resigned, Porky and the Kiev “better people” are shopping London, Vienna, Geneva…like there is no tomorrow
     
    This stuff was happening before the war also. You know that Poroshenko was very rich before 2022, right? But it’s good to see people being arrested. You would prefer for them to be uninvestigated?

    Any evidence that they were stealing 400 million dollars in cash (1% of what was given) from what was given by the West? There were other forms of corruption not involving the Western money, such as collecting bribes for draft dodging.

    Didn’t think so.

    Wars are best time for corruption, motivation is sky-high: free money, no future in Ukraine, minimal oversight, welcome mat in the West…is that too complicated for you

     

    So it should be easy to find evidence of such. And a lot of people would be motivated to dig it up, if it existed.

    But you haven’t. You mentioned the hoax about the Florida mansion. Maybe another hoax about Zelensky’ a wife shopping in Paris? If there was actual evidence you wouldn’t have to repeat those silly and obvious lies.

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war

    You did couple months ago

     

    No I didn’t, liar.

    I estimated 10k deaths (probably lower, possibly more) during the stalled summer offensive in Zaporizhia. Never for the entire war (unless in early 2022 but I don’t recall doing so).

    Ukraine pledged by the Budapest treaty to be neutral

     

    Point out where:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

    Here is the text. No commitment to neutrality, only to non-proliferation of nukes:

    https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf

    It was Kiev that first bombed and is still bombing Donbas

     

    It was Moscow that first brought armed men into Ukraine’s territory, creating a response by the government.

    At any rate Putin has killed far more people in Donbas so you have no right to complain about Kiev doing so. And clearly this means that Russia does not really care about killing civilians or saving civilians life. Putin has claimed Kherson, Zaporizhia, and Donbas to be Russia so he has killed and been killing several times more of his own citizens there than Kiev ever did.

    you even suggested that millions of Russian who have lived in that region that became a part of Ukraine should leave

     

    Only if they want, if they find it so intolerable not to have Russian language state secondary schools. They should be free to move. I’ve heard the same from several people in Russia too (and may have heard it first from one of them). Why not just take back those who find it intolerable to live in Ukraine? We take all these Armenians and Tadjiks, but don’t help our own. Give them apartments like are given to Armenians. Not an uncommon idea in Russia.

    But the Russian state chose to kill them and bomb their cities instead. With your support.
  178. @A123
    @Sher Singh

    Was Pontius Pilate Jewish? Nope.
    Were his Roman soldiers Jewish? Nope.
    Jesus was killed by pantheists.

    A key difference is proselytization:
        • Jews were not trying to convert Christians to Judaism.
        • Pagans would try to pull believers away from Christianity.
    The need to place tighter limits on pagans is fairly obvious in terms of survival.


    Other critical difference are population and timing -- in the Empire generally & Rome specifically.

        • How many Jews were there at the heart of the Holy Roman Empire? Not many. Those who voluntarily travelled to Rome would likely be well off with a good reason to be there.

    For those in the Eastern Empire, they had been effectively integrated for hundreds of years. Many Jewish leaders actively supported imperial rule, and thus were supported by the empire. How much do you want to bet that the term "especially pious" is not actual piety? It is more likely code. Think patronage. The Empire designates specific senior rabbis to grant limited numbers of exemptions, including their own family members. Bought loyalty is always a bit chancy, but not a bad technique in outlying territories.

        • How many pagans were there at the heart of the Holy Roman Empire? Many. They were often brought back as slaves, after various campaign.

    There was no history of successfully co-opting pagan religious leaders. The last thing the Empire wanted was charismatic opposition leaders appearing within their own borders. Thus breaking paganism was a necessary element for the secular side of the structure. It also served religious leaders in the Empire, as it opened the door to proselytizing and converting former pagans.
    ___

    Ask this better question -- Why wouldn't Christian Emperors protect a well integrated, useful, & non-threatening sect that shared some beliefs, including the Ten Commandments?
    ___

    The weird fetish of blaming "100% of all Jews" for problems never makes any sense. Every religion is plagued by tiny sub groups of the population misbehaving to become powerful. Calling out specific oligarchs is a good idea. But, when have oligarchs effectively represented their associated populations? It does happen from time to time, but it is not a reliable logical construct for broad application.

    Would a group foul oligarchs who happened to be Sikhs make "100% of all Sikhs" pariahs, responsible for global sin?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

    …when have oligarchs effectively represented their associated populations?

    Happens more often than we like to admit. People are always at awe of wealth…

    But let’s focus: the ruling party in Israel has in its programme that Israel includes all land between the sea and Jordan river, it specifically excludes the possibility of a Pali state. They constantly repeat it. There are 7 million Palis in Israel-Palestine – only about 1 1/2 million are citizens. 5.5 million people are effectively colonized, powerless subjects – it can’t stay that way. Israelis through its government exclude the two-state solution. It is a democracy and the people are after few decades responsible – they have voted again and again for it. Netanyahu is their representative.

    If not a two-state, what is your solution? It can’t go on any longer, what do you propose for the 5.5 million Palis living there?

    If you even indirectly start advocating expulsion (“relocation”, “voluntary” departure…) you are proposing a genocide. That is a crime. Is that what you want?

    The only other logical alternative is a single state: 7 million Jews and 7 million Palis learn how to live together. That’s where it is heading. All else are ugly hatreds and dreams by fanatics. So own up to either calling for a genocide or accepting a single state. It was Israel that refused the two-state solution.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Beckow

    If you even indirectly start advocating permanent entrapment of non-Palestinian Muslims you are proposing a genocide. That is a crime. Is that what you want?

    You can only ignore physical reality for so long. There is only enough fresh water for Gaza to support ~500K. Are you going to genocide 2MM Muslims out of existence by keeping them in containment?
    ___

    Instead of your guaranteed failure option, why not try something that has not been attempted in the last 70 years? Ending the suffering of non-Palestinian religionists via peaceful and voluntary return to their religious homelands, such as Arabia or Persia.

    If a state is required, establishing a New Muslim Palestine on Islamic (not Christian or Jewish) religious lands is a highly practical concept. There would be many details to work out of course.

    Why do you refuse to consider the only peaceful option? Your persistent & repeated calls for genocide are unhelpful.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

  179. @Mr. XYZ
    An article about life in occupied Melitopol, in the Glorious Russian Reich:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/11/europe/ukraine-life-under-russian-occupation-melitopol-intl-cmd/index.html

    Reminds me a bit of life in the Polish Corridor under Nazi German rule, for those who were both ethnic Poles and pre-1918 German citizens but politically loyal to Poland.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Gerard1234

    Reminds me a bit of life in the Polish Corridor under Nazi German rule, for those who were both ethnic Poles and pre-1918 German citizens but politically loyal to Poland.

    Just a reminder (shithead) that the Poles fought far more enthusiastically and intensively FOR Nazi Germany from 1939-45, than they did in “resisting” for 2 weeks in September 1939. Huge numbers of Poles fought for Nazi Germany. No real surprise as there was plenty of good will from 1933-39 in addition to the Poles loser/inferiority complex …….as the Nazi government ministers favourite holiday destination was Poland and, of course, Poland was Hitlers most loyal ally from 1933-39

    • Replies: @ShortOnTime
    @Gerard1234

    I'm afraid that I have to correct you here.

    Poles in WW2 resisted Nazi Germany a lot more than they collaborated, at least as much as was possible for a conquered and defeated nation. Armia Krajowa/Home Army and the Polish Communist acts of resistance were real. The August-October 1944 Warsaw Uprising was very real (not to be confused with the Jewish ghetto one).

    There was less enthusiasm for Nazi Germany in Poland than Napoleon in 19th century.

    Anyway, what's more interesting is what really happened with the 2010 Smolensk plane crash of high level Polish visitors to Russia. Just an accident or something else? After all, Poland-Russia reconciliation efforts have been completely dead since then, perhaps on purpose ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk_air_disaster

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  180. Israel is Losing the World – Ukraine Needs Negotiations | Col. Larry Wilkerson

    Zelensky road show. Putin Q & A w/ Larry Johnson (Live)

  181. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Kuchma, Yanukovich et al, sure.
     
    So according to you Porky, Timoshenko and the endless oligarchs on Maidan never stole anything? That's why we think of you as a bit retarded, keep it up.

    "Evidence"? Can you put 2 and 2 together? Zelko's sponsor Kolomoisky is in jail for a few hundred million he swiped, defense minister was caught red-handed and resigned, Porky and the Kiev "better people" are shopping London, Vienna, Geneva...like there is no tomorrow...buying palaces in Florida. Enough?

    40 billion in cash was sent with no audit - US Congress words, not mine...cars with bags of cash stopped on the border, there are videos..do you want a taped confession? Is that your standard every time corruption takes place around the world? (do you work for Biden?)


    Lots of people and organizations would be highly motivated to prove such theft
     
    They have and media mostly ignores it. We are in a war, these things are trifles and the powers in the West ordered that the media focus on winning the war - anything that would undermine the narrative has been put on ice...Wars are best time for corruption, motivation is sky-high: free money, no future in Ukraine, minimal oversight, welcome mat in the West...is that too complicated for you? but we understand that you have a mind of 10-year old (Viva Habsburgs!!!).

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war
     
    You did couple months ago...with you usual weasel provisos. But ok, if not 10k or 100k (or 300k that I think is exaggerated) - what is your estimate of Ukie casualties in the war? And also, was it worth it? What has it accomplished?

    Ukraine did poorly after 1991 because it didn’t follow the Poles and the Balts westward right away but instead tried neutrality with both East and West.
     
    Ukraine pledged by the Budapest treaty to be neutral. They first broke that with Yushenko - remember the Orange loser with 5% approval in 2010? - then with Maidan. If you swear neutrality and then try to join Nato, you are by definition in violation of everything - all the lame talk today intentionally leaves that out.

    It was Kiev that first bombed and is still bombing Donbas - their own citizens!!! There are 5 million people there, the losses have been less than 1%, they will survive it. But I suspect they will forever remember what you crazy Galician quasi-Nazis did to them. If they ever make it to Kiev or Lviv, it will be ugly. But you don't care about them - you even suggested that millions of Russian who have lived in that region that became a part of Ukraine should leave. Quite extraordinary to openly call for what would be a genocide. But you guys are so narcissistic you are unable to see it. "Russians?" Damn, anything can be done to them, no rules apply - right?

    Replies: @AP

    So according to you Porky, Timoshenko and the endless oligarchs on Maidan never stole anything

    Don’t lie about what I did or didn’t say.

    The Ukrainian economy improved under Poroshenko and Zelensky when they took Ukraine on an unambiguously Western trajectory.

    Evidence”? Can you put 2 and 2 together? Zelko’s sponsor Kolomoisky is in jail for a few hundred million he swiped, defense minister was caught red-handed and resigned, Porky and the Kiev “better people” are shopping London, Vienna, Geneva…like there is no tomorrow

    This stuff was happening before the war also. You know that Poroshenko was very rich before 2022, right? But it’s good to see people being arrested. You would prefer for them to be uninvestigated?

    Any evidence that they were stealing 400 million dollars in cash (1% of what was given) from what was given by the West? There were other forms of corruption not involving the Western money, such as collecting bribes for draft dodging.

    Didn’t think so.

    Wars are best time for corruption, motivation is sky-high: free money, no future in Ukraine, minimal oversight, welcome mat in the West…is that too complicated for you

    So it should be easy to find evidence of such. And a lot of people would be motivated to dig it up, if it existed.

    But you haven’t. You mentioned the hoax about the Florida mansion. Maybe another hoax about Zelensky’ a wife shopping in Paris? If there was actual evidence you wouldn’t have to repeat those silly and obvious lies.

    I never claimed Ukraine lost only 10k soldiers in this war

    You did couple months ago

    No I didn’t, liar.

    I estimated 10k deaths (probably lower, possibly more) during the stalled summer offensive in Zaporizhia. Never for the entire war (unless in early 2022 but I don’t recall doing so).

    Ukraine pledged by the Budapest treaty to be neutral

    Point out where:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

    Here is the text. No commitment to neutrality, only to non-proliferation of nukes:

    https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf

    It was Kiev that first bombed and is still bombing Donbas

    It was Moscow that first brought armed men into Ukraine’s territory, creating a response by the government.

    At any rate Putin has killed far more people in Donbas so you have no right to complain about Kiev doing so. And clearly this means that Russia does not really care about killing civilians or saving civilians life. Putin has claimed Kherson, Zaporizhia, and Donbas to be Russia so he has killed and been killing several times more of his own citizens there than Kiev ever did.

    you even suggested that millions of Russian who have lived in that region that became a part of Ukraine should leave

    Only if they want, if they find it so intolerable not to have Russian language state secondary schools. They should be free to move. I’ve heard the same from several people in Russia too (and may have heard it first from one of them). Why not just take back those who find it intolerable to live in Ukraine? We take all these Armenians and Tadjiks, but don’t help our own. Give them apartments like are given to Armenians. Not an uncommon idea in Russia.

    But the Russian state chose to kill them and bomb their cities instead. With your support.

  182. @Beckow
    @A123


    ...when have oligarchs effectively represented their associated populations?
     
    Happens more often than we like to admit. People are always at awe of wealth...

    But let's focus: the ruling party in Israel has in its programme that Israel includes all land between the sea and Jordan river, it specifically excludes the possibility of a Pali state. They constantly repeat it. There are 7 million Palis in Israel-Palestine - only about 1 1/2 million are citizens. 5.5 million people are effectively colonized, powerless subjects - it can't stay that way. Israelis through its government exclude the two-state solution. It is a democracy and the people are after few decades responsible - they have voted again and again for it. Netanyahu is their representative.

    If not a two-state, what is your solution? It can't go on any longer, what do you propose for the 5.5 million Palis living there?

    If you even indirectly start advocating expulsion ("relocation", "voluntary" departure...) you are proposing a genocide. That is a crime. Is that what you want?

    The only other logical alternative is a single state: 7 million Jews and 7 million Palis learn how to live together. That's where it is heading. All else are ugly hatreds and dreams by fanatics. So own up to either calling for a genocide or accepting a single state. It was Israel that refused the two-state solution.

    Replies: @A123

    If you even indirectly start advocating permanent entrapment of non-Palestinian Muslims you are proposing a genocide. That is a crime. Is that what you want?

    You can only ignore physical reality for so long. There is only enough fresh water for Gaza to support ~500K. Are you going to genocide 2MM Muslims out of existence by keeping them in containment?
    ___

    Instead of your guaranteed failure option, why not try something that has not been attempted in the last 70 years? Ending the suffering of non-Palestinian religionists via peaceful and voluntary return to their religious homelands, such as Arabia or Persia.

    If a state is required, establishing a New Muslim Palestine on Islamic (not Christian or Jewish) religious lands is a highly practical concept. There would be many details to work out of course.

    Why do you refuse to consider the only peaceful option? Your persistent & repeated calls for genocide are unhelpful.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @A123

    You are scraping the intellectual bottom..."many details to work out, of course..."...absurd defense of destroying a nation, of the genocide of Palestinians.

    I explained to you that you are advocating a genocide - there is no such thing as "voluntary" removing 5 million Palis and you know it. And the best you can come up is to argue that by not doing that genocide Israel will be forced to do a more direct genocide and eliminate the Palis where they are.

    Look, you have crossed into inhumanity that is not salvageable - or you play it here. It is today criminal in whatever is the international law, although I am of the view that freedom of speech is absolute so I don't subscribe to it. But based on today's norms and standards you are calling for a genocide of 5 to 7 million Palestinians. It has close to zero chance to succeed - you are wasting time.

    There will be some kind of a one-state, maybe overcrowded, short of water, split down the middle with special rights - but there will be one-state. All that is needed is for the remaining Palis to also be given citizenship. And a new constitution. You can push it out by a few years, even a decade or two, but it is the inevitable outcome of Israel "democratically" rejecting the two-state solution.

    There won't be the genocide-expulsion of Palis you dream about, calm down. It would at this point destroy the whole region.

    Replies: @A123

  183. @LatW
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Thanks, interesting links.


    a lot of Koreans were actually pro-Russia
     
    It's understandable, but they weren't as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?

    This was the German polyglot who proposed the Korean king to enter in a secret treaty with Russia
     
    Great photo, you can tell the guy was totally into languages and "going native". He's German Prussian, btw, so practically Baltic German, one can say.

    "Möllendorff also advocated that Korea enter into an alliance with the Russian Empire to counterbalance Chinese and Japanese influences on the Korean peninsula." (Wiki)

    Alliance is different than being completely swamped. Hard to say what is more useful here, doing translations or political advisory.


    Here’s a story about how Japan supported Latvian (and Finnish) revolutionaries
     
    Thanks, this was quite an operation, what is fascinating about it is just the sheer geographic span of all these connections and how they trailed and connected towards a common result. Btw, this org, those were not Bolshes, but social democrats of that time, which by today's standards would be a sort of republican or simply people who wanted modernization (which by the European standards of those times just meant basic rights). Also, to stop Russification of local nationalities.

    And the punitive action after 1905 was just insanely brutal (ordered by Nikolai). Executing, whipping to the point where people were crippled for life, torturing, even women. This was done by Tsar's Cossacks that were brought in. When you do that to your subjects, in the 20th century, you should know it's over. Although there was both good and bad in the Empire.

    And, btw, the modern Latvians (and Estonians) themselves do not like addressing this at all - burning the German estates is really looked down upon, as a shameful piece of history, anything openly anti-German is a big "no no" these days, so very different from those times. But once you start educating them, they start having sympathy for those folks who lived a 100 years ago.

    It is good to be able to look at those times with the distance we have now.

    From what I understand, Japan's collaboration with the Poles was deeper but it's interesting to see that it even reached Finns and Latvians. I'm sure a lot can be found in the revolutionary letters and diaries and such.

    Btw, there is a map that shows the route of the ships that went from Latvia towards Japan (the route is Liepaja to Vladivostok), all the way around Africa. I don't know how to post the map but if you open this link and scroll down, in the middle of the article you'll see three maps, and one of them shows it (the smaller one) - a red line that goes through the Suez canal and towards Asia. 30 warships and 25 cargo ships. They were insane.

    You can see it in this link:

    https://enciklopedija.lv/skirklis/64752-Krievijas%E2%80%93Jap%C4%81nas-kar%C5%A1

    Japanese troops in defense positions:

    https://enciklopedija.lv/api/image/original?name=df0390c82195-2986d039-2f42-438f-8173-1746c0e0ee19.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It’s understandable, but they weren’t as pro-Russia as to actually want to be part of the Empire, were they?

    No, they tried to enter into some secret agreements with Russia. And the Korean king representing a faction took refuge with Russians

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojong%27s_internal_exile_to_the_Russian_legation

    It was complicated because Joseon was a Manchu Qing tributary at the time. Qing preferred to keep Joseon static and backwards, this is a depiction of the yangban elite class sitting on top of peasants But Manchu-Mongol rule was crumbling, Han Chinese were dominating the Qing court. Japan and Russia were rising as two great powers of NE Asia. So both Koreans and Chinese were playing off between the two.

    The Han Chinese PM of Qing also entered into a secret backdoor deal with Russia, then turned around and pleaded to Japan to remove Russia from Manchuria

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li–Lobanov_Treaty

    Nicholaus refusing Korea-Manchuria exchange was one of the fateful turning points of 20th CE. No Russo-Japanese War means probably no Bolsheviks, no Nazis, etc…But there was a lot of money involved with timber, Yul Brynner’s grandfather was involved
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бринер,_Юлий_Иванович

    [MORE]

    You do “right click”->”copy image link”

  184. @AP
    @Mikel


    However, you may have been too quick to accept AP’s idea that the US is not really spending so much on Ukraine after all
     
    Is much of the $75 billion or whatever in the form of equipment rather than cash? Yes or no?

    And if so, is it incorrect to state that we are sending $75 billion or whatever to Ukraine that could have been spent here?

    Try to be to honest, it’s hard for you in an argument, but do your best.

    And since a lot of the equipment consists of decades-old vehicles that were already paid for when they were made, the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    If Ukraine gets old Bradleys that have been sitting in a warehouse, that the government paid $200 million dollars for when they were made decades ago, no-one is paying that now. We are only paying for transport, but that cost is balanced by us no longer paying for storage and maintenance. But it’s counted as Ukraine getting $200 million dollars worth of Bradleys. And some dishonest guy like your beloved Matt Gaetz will count that as $200 million dollars cash sent to Ukraine that could have fed impoverished Americans, in order to attack the Biden administration and smart centrist Republicans who see this as good policy.

    On the one hand, it implies that the Biden Administration could send much lower appropriations requests to Congress by just using a more accurate accounting method with all those depreciated stocks
     
    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting. It reflects how much the equipment cost when it was made, which they have purchase orders and receipts for. It’s inflated relative to how much it is worth now, but not relative to how much it cost when the Pentagon originally bought it (I am not sure if they use inflation adjustments). Like donating an old unused TV that someone paid $500 for 10 years ago, and having the receipt for that amount. When in reality such a TV would probably be worth $100 if someone tried to sell it today on eBay.

    but for some strange reason prefers to inflate the numbers and make the requests even more unlikely to succeed
     
    Back when there was bipartisan support (in part because the people involved probably understand what I am saying) a high number didn’t matter because everyone was in favor. Perhaps it even was good because it demonstrated a high level of commitment to the world and made it look like the USA was far more supportive than others. It later became a liability when bad actors chose to dishonestly present those numbers as taxpayer dollars being sent abroad.

    It would be funny if the standard accounting practice is abandoned and lower figures are used in the future, without changing the amount of equipment actually being sent to Ukraine. And this would then be successfully sold as “cutting costs.” The higher figures used before will have thus enabled more flexibility later.

    On the other hand, it doesn’t even matter. Once Congress approves an appropriations bill it adds to the existing deficit that needs to be compensated either through increased taxes or through increased debt

     

    How does exaggerating the current value of equipment that has already been paid for long ago, add to the deficit? Nobody is buying the equipment at the exaggerated price.

    Of course that is not the only things that we are sending to Ukraine. Ukraine is also getting a lot of ammo, which indeed is being produced and paid for now:

    In other words, some 1% of Americans working in the defense sector get richer with a part of those huge aid packages by virtue of Biden taking money out of the pockets of most of us here in this blog

     

    This pertains not to sending old equipment, but to sending Ukraine modern ammo such as artillery shells.

    1. Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money. Certainly better than welfare, left-wing NPR propagandists, etc. It helps keep this sector alive, which could be vitally important down the road. We are increasing shell production capacity, which is also a good thing. We are economically helping parts of the country outside the coasts.

    2. In some cases we are sending equipment to Ukraine and then replacing it with newer and better equipment. It’s a process of modernising and improving America’s military. Also a good thing.

    You can argue that we shouldn’t do such things - maybe you feel that America should have a small and weak military, so as not to be tempted to ever go beyond the borders - but don’t pretend that America can’t benefit from it.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikel

    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds. There is no such thing as getting a supplemental appropriations bill approved without adding to the deficit. Period. Technically speaking, I guess the bill adds to the deficit when the government actually uses the Treasury to allocate the funds but that’s what the bill does: allow the executive to use the Treasury for the requested purpose.

    I’m not going to repeat how an increased deficit is paid for. If you don’t know that, any further discussion is a total waste of time.

    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting.

    I don’t know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent. That is the real standard way of accounting. If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all. And that’s just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.

    Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money.

    Not for those workers and their employers certainly. For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad. We would all choose better uses for the part of that money that comes from our pockets, if given the chance. If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy and we’d all be much richer. Why hasn’t anyone thought of that before you?

    Try to be to honest

    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer. And while doing it tries to make people here believe that the constitutional and national accounting processes have stopped working as usual or that new brave economic theories have started to come into effect. It is actually you who is doing all those ridiculous claims.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel


    Why hasn’t anyone thought of that before you?
     
    They have and some societies even implemented it. It always ends in a monetary collapse, but it can take a long time. That's what they are counting on.

    Any "debt" is a claim on the same asset or anything of value by two parties. These days often by three or more. As long as the debt is serviced with interest payments it works fine. But it is an economic chimera - two people think that they own something, but it is the same thing. As it happens and grows it is a lot of fun, almost magical, like a society-wide pyramid scheme.

    Once a society discovers the magic of debt it is addictive. That's where US and EU are today. But mathematically it reaches the point where the magic turns into a nightmare - 2023 is the first year US has paid 1 trillion dollars only in the interest on its debt.

    Compared to these huge sums the money for Ukraine is chomp change, it gets lost in the accounting. EU has just proposed giving Kiev 17 billion euros in 3-years 2024-27 - plus co-signing on 33 billion in private bonds - I am not sure it will work, the interest rate will have to be very high and default is very likely, but whatever, this is Brussels.

    It is a fraction of what EU gave to Kiev in 2022-23, around 1/5. It looks like the money will be there, but a lot less of it. This is the usual end-game: giving money so the previous loans can be serviced for a few more years. The last trick when the gig is up.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.
     

    No, it's not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?

    Taxpayers are paying to have it shipped to Ukraine; but that cost is offset by what it would have cost to keep maintaining the old vehicles and/or to decommission them and dispose of them.


    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds.
     
    And those additional funds aren't accounted for by that equipment.

    I don’t know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent.... If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all.
     
    Bingo.

    So what it seems we are really doing, is paying for new equipment to replace the old and obsolete stuff being sent to Ukraine (which is still better than the old Soviet equipment the Ukrainians and Russians are using). Those billions of dollars aren't being used to buy 30 year old Bradleys being sent to Ukraine (those were purchased decades ago) . They are allocated to replace them with new vehicles for the US military.

    Same with many of the missiles. America was sending older ones nearing or even exceeding their service life, and replacing them with new ones for itself.

    So this part of the Ukraine aid package supposedly spent "on Ukraine" is actually spent "on the USA."

    Do you oppose the US massively upgrading its military, and replacing expiring missiles, while sending the old stock to Ukraine to use to defend itself?


    And that’s just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.
     
    It was around 31%.

    And this part of the package is incorrectly presented as cash being sent to Ukraine.


    Paying American workers in the defense sector is not a bad use of money.

    Not for those workers and their employers certainly.
     

    And also for the communities where those workers live and spend their money.

    For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad
     
    Is it? Many people think that maintaining a healthy defense industry with high production capacity is a very good thing.

    If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy
     
    Or maybe the pure market is more efficient for most economic sectors but not for the defense industry (as also not for the police, corrections, etc.). At least as long as the military and its industry don't maintain self-sufficiency by pillaging other countries. You obviously and for very good reason don't have a problem with government spending program to secure the border.

    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer
     
    The Ukraine war is a tiny fraction of the defense budget, and much of it consists of upgrading the US's own military.

    Speaking of which, I am not sure, but I suspect more of us American taxpayers support helping Ukraine and a greater share of freeloaders oppose doing so.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/05/10/americans-hold-positive-feelings-toward-nato-and-ukraine-see-russia-as-an-enemy/

    "Americans who negatively rate the economic situation and indicate dissatisfaction with the way democracy works in the U.S. are more likely to believe the country should concentrate on issues at home. Americans with lower incomes are also more likely than their middle- or upper-income counterparts to say that the U.S. should focus on domestic issues."

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

  185. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Your words not mine. I said I haven't paid attention to Avdiika or most other battles. I did say there are lots of causalities on both sides. I appraise the total casualties (KIA) to be much higher on the Ukraine side, but not necessarily so in a particular battle or engagement. Your mileage may vary.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Your words not mine.

    Well you made this comment:

    I don’t keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last “map” video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses.

    I haven’t seen evidence of massive Ukrainian losses anywhere in the last two months. Practically all of the fighting has been in a single area. The Russians have been on the offensive as Putin is clearly trying to take Avdiivka under some type of time or political pressure.

    I appraise the total casualties (KIA) to be much higher on the Ukraine side, but not necessarily so in a particular battle or engagement.

    I see no reason to assume that the Ukrainians have higher casualties unless you are ignoring Wagner’s losses. Even in that case I would be skeptical.

    I would at the very least expect Russia to have a higher kill / casualty loss ratio as they clearly don’t value their conscripts and have medical shortages. Meaning Putin would prefer them to die in a ditch rather than come back and tie up a hospital bed.

    It’s possible that Ukrainians have a higher casualty count overall but I don’t see strong evidence either way. As I said before we will probably never know the actual Russian casualty count as there is widespread evidence that Russia has sent conscripts off the books. Wives are having to send their husbands food so I think rumors of Russia trying to avoid payment for service are most likely true.

    In fact when the war is over I’m sure we will hear stories from Russian doctors on how they put down patients like dogs. A Belarusian doctor who escaped after the invasion described Russians literally dropping off the dying outside the doors of the hospital. The Russians had completely underestimated the Ukrainians and were not prepared for mass casualties. He had to sneak out with his family as he was understandably afraid of being a threat for knowing too much.

    I bet it will come out that they were putting down quadriplegics and similar cases. There are drone videos in fact of Russians shooting their wounded. It will be just like Nazi Germany where they decide that certain veterans are to be given the “mercy bullet” as the Germans called it.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I did not mean to imply the map video had anything to do with Avdiivka, merely that it was the most recent video I had skimmed which showed losses on both sides.

    The long range missile strikes are more interesting except that no credible accounting of hits per strike are available. This information may not be available.

    I came across some mention of the destruction of a Patriot battery the other day, no confirmation so far.

    Wait and see.

  186. @A123
    @Beckow

    If you even indirectly start advocating permanent entrapment of non-Palestinian Muslims you are proposing a genocide. That is a crime. Is that what you want?

    You can only ignore physical reality for so long. There is only enough fresh water for Gaza to support ~500K. Are you going to genocide 2MM Muslims out of existence by keeping them in containment?
    ___

    Instead of your guaranteed failure option, why not try something that has not been attempted in the last 70 years? Ending the suffering of non-Palestinian religionists via peaceful and voluntary return to their religious homelands, such as Arabia or Persia.

    If a state is required, establishing a New Muslim Palestine on Islamic (not Christian or Jewish) religious lands is a highly practical concept. There would be many details to work out of course.

    Why do you refuse to consider the only peaceful option? Your persistent & repeated calls for genocide are unhelpful.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Beckow

    You are scraping the intellectual bottom…”many details to work out, of course…“…absurd defense of destroying a nation, of the genocide of Palestinians.

    I explained to you that you are advocating a genocide – there is no such thing as “voluntary” removing 5 million Palis and you know it. And the best you can come up is to argue that by not doing that genocide Israel will be forced to do a more direct genocide and eliminate the Palis where they are.

    Look, you have crossed into inhumanity that is not salvageable – or you play it here. It is today criminal in whatever is the international law, although I am of the view that freedom of speech is absolute so I don’t subscribe to it. But based on today’s norms and standards you are calling for a genocide of 5 to 7 million Palestinians. It has close to zero chance to succeed – you are wasting time.

    There will be some kind of a one-state, maybe overcrowded, short of water, split down the middle with special rights – but there will be one-state. All that is needed is for the remaining Palis to also be given citizenship. And a new constitution. You can push it out by a few years, even a decade or two, but it is the inevitable outcome of Israel “democratically” rejecting the two-state solution.

    There won’t be the genocide-expulsion of Palis you dream about, calm down. It would at this point destroy the whole region.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Beckow

    You are scraping the intellectual bottom… Palestine was never a nation, therefore the nation of Palestine cannot be wiped out.

    I explained to you that you are advocating a genocide – you insist on keeping 2.5MM people where there is only fresh water for about ~500K. Your call to genocide 2MM Muslim colonists occupying Gaza is a crime. Why would you want that?

    You have crossed into inhumanity that is not salvageable -- VOLUNTARY movement is obviously not a crime. Your pathetic & blatant mislabelling has failed. Please, stop lying.

    Israel is an explicitly Jewish nation at this point. Indigenous Palestinian Jews will never sign up to your genocidal one state solution. It is so ludicrous, you cannot possibly believe that your genocidal proposal could ever come to be. It is worse than impossible, it is laughable.

    There won’t be the genocide-containment of 2MM Muslim colonists in Gaza you dream about, calm down. An orderly "Right of Religious Return" functioning over more than a decade is the legal, moral, peaceful, and obvious non-genocidal solution. That could be assimilation into existing Arab and Persian nations and/or the creation of the first Muslim Palestine nation.

    Why do you keep insisting on genocide when there are better options?

    PEACE 😇

  187. @Mikel
    @AP


    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.
     
    Of course it's all being paid by us taxpayers.

    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds. There is no such thing as getting a supplemental appropriations bill approved without adding to the deficit. Period. Technically speaking, I guess the bill adds to the deficit when the government actually uses the Treasury to allocate the funds but that's what the bill does: allow the executive to use the Treasury for the requested purpose.

    I'm not going to repeat how an increased deficit is paid for. If you don't know that, any further discussion is a total waste of time.

    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting.
     
    I don't know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent. That is the real standard way of accounting. If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all. And that's just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.

    Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money.
     
    Not for those workers and their employers certainly. For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad. We would all choose better uses for the part of that money that comes from our pockets, if given the chance. If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy and we'd all be much richer. Why hasn't anyone thought of that before you?

    Try to be to honest
     
    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer. And while doing it tries to make people here believe that the constitutional and national accounting processes have stopped working as usual or that new brave economic theories have started to come into effect. It is actually you who is doing all those ridiculous claims.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    Why hasn’t anyone thought of that before you?

    They have and some societies even implemented it. It always ends in a monetary collapse, but it can take a long time. That’s what they are counting on.

    Any “debt” is a claim on the same asset or anything of value by two parties. These days often by three or more. As long as the debt is serviced with interest payments it works fine. But it is an economic chimera – two people think that they own something, but it is the same thing. As it happens and grows it is a lot of fun, almost magical, like a society-wide pyramid scheme.

    Once a society discovers the magic of debt it is addictive. That’s where US and EU are today. But mathematically it reaches the point where the magic turns into a nightmare – 2023 is the first year US has paid 1 trillion dollars only in the interest on its debt.

    Compared to these huge sums the money for Ukraine is chomp change, it gets lost in the accounting. EU has just proposed giving Kiev 17 billion euros in 3-years 2024-27 – plus co-signing on 33 billion in private bonds – I am not sure it will work, the interest rate will have to be very high and default is very likely, but whatever, this is Brussels.

    It is a fraction of what EU gave to Kiev in 2022-23, around 1/5. It looks like the money will be there, but a lot less of it. This is the usual end-game: giving money so the previous loans can be serviced for a few more years. The last trick when the gig is up.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Beckow

    I wouldn't use that definition of debt but yes, the experiment that the advanced economies are running since the Great Recession has no precedents in its magnitude and the precedents that exist are not good, except for maybe the huge post-WWII public debt being eliminated through inflation. We'll see.

    Replies: @Beckow

  188. @Beckow
    @A123

    You are scraping the intellectual bottom..."many details to work out, of course..."...absurd defense of destroying a nation, of the genocide of Palestinians.

    I explained to you that you are advocating a genocide - there is no such thing as "voluntary" removing 5 million Palis and you know it. And the best you can come up is to argue that by not doing that genocide Israel will be forced to do a more direct genocide and eliminate the Palis where they are.

    Look, you have crossed into inhumanity that is not salvageable - or you play it here. It is today criminal in whatever is the international law, although I am of the view that freedom of speech is absolute so I don't subscribe to it. But based on today's norms and standards you are calling for a genocide of 5 to 7 million Palestinians. It has close to zero chance to succeed - you are wasting time.

    There will be some kind of a one-state, maybe overcrowded, short of water, split down the middle with special rights - but there will be one-state. All that is needed is for the remaining Palis to also be given citizenship. And a new constitution. You can push it out by a few years, even a decade or two, but it is the inevitable outcome of Israel "democratically" rejecting the two-state solution.

    There won't be the genocide-expulsion of Palis you dream about, calm down. It would at this point destroy the whole region.

    Replies: @A123

    You are scraping the intellectual bottom… Palestine was never a nation, therefore the nation of Palestine cannot be wiped out.

    I explained to you that you are advocating a genocide – you insist on keeping 2.5MM people where there is only fresh water for about ~500K. Your call to genocide 2MM Muslim colonists occupying Gaza is a crime. Why would you want that?

    You have crossed into inhumanity that is not salvageable — VOLUNTARY movement is obviously not a crime. Your pathetic & blatant mislabelling has failed. Please, stop lying.

    Israel is an explicitly Jewish nation at this point. Indigenous Palestinian Jews will never sign up to your genocidal one state solution. It is so ludicrous, you cannot possibly believe that your genocidal proposal could ever come to be. It is worse than impossible, it is laughable.

    There won’t be the genocide-containment of 2MM Muslim colonists in Gaza you dream about, calm down. An orderly “Right of Religious Return” functioning over more than a decade is the legal, moral, peaceful, and obvious non-genocidal solution. That could be assimilation into existing Arab and Persian nations and/or the creation of the first Muslim Palestine nation.

    Why do you keep insisting on genocide when there are better options?

    PEACE 😇

  189. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Your words not mine.

    Well you made this comment:

    I don’t keep up with the details of the combat such as Avdiivka. The last “map” video I clicked on showed serious Russian losses and massive Ukrainian losses.

    I haven't seen evidence of massive Ukrainian losses anywhere in the last two months. Practically all of the fighting has been in a single area. The Russians have been on the offensive as Putin is clearly trying to take Avdiivka under some type of time or political pressure.

    I appraise the total casualties (KIA) to be much higher on the Ukraine side, but not necessarily so in a particular battle or engagement.

    I see no reason to assume that the Ukrainians have higher casualties unless you are ignoring Wagner's losses. Even in that case I would be skeptical.

    I would at the very least expect Russia to have a higher kill / casualty loss ratio as they clearly don't value their conscripts and have medical shortages. Meaning Putin would prefer them to die in a ditch rather than come back and tie up a hospital bed.

    It's possible that Ukrainians have a higher casualty count overall but I don't see strong evidence either way. As I said before we will probably never know the actual Russian casualty count as there is widespread evidence that Russia has sent conscripts off the books. Wives are having to send their husbands food so I think rumors of Russia trying to avoid payment for service are most likely true.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDfLpwafGSc

    In fact when the war is over I'm sure we will hear stories from Russian doctors on how they put down patients like dogs. A Belarusian doctor who escaped after the invasion described Russians literally dropping off the dying outside the doors of the hospital. The Russians had completely underestimated the Ukrainians and were not prepared for mass casualties. He had to sneak out with his family as he was understandably afraid of being a threat for knowing too much.

    I bet it will come out that they were putting down quadriplegics and similar cases. There are drone videos in fact of Russians shooting their wounded. It will be just like Nazi Germany where they decide that certain veterans are to be given the "mercy bullet" as the Germans called it.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I did not mean to imply the map video had anything to do with Avdiivka, merely that it was the most recent video I had skimmed which showed losses on both sides.

    The long range missile strikes are more interesting except that no credible accounting of hits per strike are available. This information may not be available.

    I came across some mention of the destruction of a Patriot battery the other day, no confirmation so far.

    Wait and see.

  190. Russians stand in line for eggs:
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1841499/Russia-Vladimir-Putin-inflation-economy-war

    And back to USSR style lines for the basics.

    Interesting video:

    From cook to stormtrooper in one day

    That’s one hell of a promotion. Not sure what these Ruskies are complaining about.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Johnny, you are getting more and more agitated and nervous, signalling the Ukie defeat is near.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mr. Hack
    @John Johnson


    Not sure what these Ruskies are complaining about.
     
    I'm guessing that the 5k bonus that's been promised is being delayed in the mail somewhere (Christmas mail is always slow this time of year). It couldn't be that these hapless Russian idiots have only now figured out that they're only being sent into Ukraine to become cannon fodder?

    https://image.cagle.com/267345/750/267345.png

  191. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    I don't know about "memo", but it's certainly to be seen in Adviivka. Why don't you take your sword out of mothballs and enlist in Putler's army and you can see for yourself first hand? I hear that that they're offering a 5k bonus right now for new conscripts.

    https://central.asia-news.com/cnmi_ca/images/2023/01/26/40456-mobilization_1-739_416.webp
    A fine example of Putler's savvy marketing department, designed to attract patriots like you and Professor Janissary to join and help the cause...soldiers of fortune like kremlinstoogeA123 are welcome too.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    You are so fucking wierd m’dude.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/27/be/f227bec343be864ea7d21a83d6cc41ec.png

    You're right. I'm not crazy about you either, so why don't you quit following me around here at this blogsite? What's the matter, don't you have any other buddies here you can hang out with?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  192. @Beckow
    @Mikel


    Why hasn’t anyone thought of that before you?
     
    They have and some societies even implemented it. It always ends in a monetary collapse, but it can take a long time. That's what they are counting on.

    Any "debt" is a claim on the same asset or anything of value by two parties. These days often by three or more. As long as the debt is serviced with interest payments it works fine. But it is an economic chimera - two people think that they own something, but it is the same thing. As it happens and grows it is a lot of fun, almost magical, like a society-wide pyramid scheme.

    Once a society discovers the magic of debt it is addictive. That's where US and EU are today. But mathematically it reaches the point where the magic turns into a nightmare - 2023 is the first year US has paid 1 trillion dollars only in the interest on its debt.

    Compared to these huge sums the money for Ukraine is chomp change, it gets lost in the accounting. EU has just proposed giving Kiev 17 billion euros in 3-years 2024-27 - plus co-signing on 33 billion in private bonds - I am not sure it will work, the interest rate will have to be very high and default is very likely, but whatever, this is Brussels.

    It is a fraction of what EU gave to Kiev in 2022-23, around 1/5. It looks like the money will be there, but a lot less of it. This is the usual end-game: giving money so the previous loans can be serviced for a few more years. The last trick when the gig is up.

    Replies: @Mikel

    I wouldn’t use that definition of debt but yes, the experiment that the advanced economies are running since the Great Recession has no precedents in its magnitude and the precedents that exist are not good, except for maybe the huge post-WWII public debt being eliminated through inflation. We’ll see.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel

    Sure, there are different ways to describe what debt is - I like the Stone Age-caveman version, it has an immediacy about it that the fancy financial models lack....:)


    post-WWII public debt being eliminated through inflation.
     
    It worked because of rapidly rising real productivity, and inflation helped too. But the post-WW2 productivity explosion was almost unprecedented. The key was the productivity gains fairly divided among the population - working people were much smarter about their self-interest and the oligarchs ("capitalists"?) were very scared.

    Similar productivity explosion in the last generation with the new technologies was squandered. The gains mostly went to the oligarchs, this time called "enterpreneurs" or "investors". That makes high inflation to get rid of debts impractical - too many people would struggle to survive.

    We are kind of stuck. Thus the woke distractions, security manias, governments run by clowns and old men...or maybe a war? We'll see...

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  193. Does Japan really have 2 of the top 3 slots of NA box office?

    Wow, that’s really amazing if true. I never thought we’d see anything like it, especially with Japan in demographic decline.

    Though I suppose Godzilla is a really old property that’s been promoted big recently by Hollywood itself, and Miyazaki is 82.

  194. @Mikel
    @Beckow

    I wouldn't use that definition of debt but yes, the experiment that the advanced economies are running since the Great Recession has no precedents in its magnitude and the precedents that exist are not good, except for maybe the huge post-WWII public debt being eliminated through inflation. We'll see.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Sure, there are different ways to describe what debt is – I like the Stone Age-caveman version, it has an immediacy about it that the fancy financial models lack….:)

    post-WWII public debt being eliminated through inflation.

    It worked because of rapidly rising real productivity, and inflation helped too. But the post-WW2 productivity explosion was almost unprecedented. The key was the productivity gains fairly divided among the population – working people were much smarter about their self-interest and the oligarchs (“capitalists”?) were very scared.

    Similar productivity explosion in the last generation with the new technologies was squandered. The gains mostly went to the oligarchs, this time called “enterpreneurs” or “investors”. That makes high inflation to get rid of debts impractical – too many people would struggle to survive.

    We are kind of stuck. Thus the woke distractions, security manias, governments run by clowns and old men…or maybe a war? We’ll see…

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    the oligarchs (or “capitalists”?) were very scared.
     
    They were surrounded by millions of experienced soldiers who were suddenly civilians. There was incentive to occupy these fellows working for money!

    Replies: @Mikel

  195. @Beckow
    @Mikel

    Sure, there are different ways to describe what debt is - I like the Stone Age-caveman version, it has an immediacy about it that the fancy financial models lack....:)


    post-WWII public debt being eliminated through inflation.
     
    It worked because of rapidly rising real productivity, and inflation helped too. But the post-WW2 productivity explosion was almost unprecedented. The key was the productivity gains fairly divided among the population - working people were much smarter about their self-interest and the oligarchs ("capitalists"?) were very scared.

    Similar productivity explosion in the last generation with the new technologies was squandered. The gains mostly went to the oligarchs, this time called "enterpreneurs" or "investors". That makes high inflation to get rid of debts impractical - too many people would struggle to survive.

    We are kind of stuck. Thus the woke distractions, security manias, governments run by clowns and old men...or maybe a war? We'll see...

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    the oligarchs (or “capitalists”?) were very scared.

    They were surrounded by millions of experienced soldiers who were suddenly civilians. There was incentive to occupy these fellows working for money!

    • Agree: Beckow
    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Inflation is always hard on the poor and people in the late forties-early fifties were much poorer in the US and Western Europe than today. It must have hit them harder. On the other hand, people today are not as used to hardship as they were then so Beckow's idea that we would have a social explosion if we started having high levels of inflation has some merit but I don't think it would happen. In the past couple of years we've had levels of inflation comparable to the late 40s and people have gotten used to it quite well. The fact that we've grown less accustomed to hardship than previous generations also means that we are quite docile.

    The best scenario for the current insane levels of debt is long years of inflation diluting it. But we'll have to stop adding to that debt at some point too. Supplemental bills of any kind don't help.

    Milei's reforms in Argentina may have some effect on all this. There are people in the Republican Party receptive to the economic ideas he's championing but I'm not sure how important Argentina is these days for 1st World countries to start emulating it, no matter how effective his policies happen to be. Argentina's economy is in such a bad shape and so entangled in an interventionist nightmare at all levels that it will be many years before it can become a free market, fiscal responsibility success story, if it ever gets there. Besides, the first measures Milei has adopted point to a much more pragmatic approach that what he campaigned for.

    Perhaps this is why Ron Paul and other libertarians seem to be ignoring Milei. I was pretty sure he would post a column about his victory in Argentina but I haven't seen any. His chances of success, given the situation he inherits and his personality, are small so why associate the libertarian brand to such a figure?

  196. @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    And everyone of them would cry bloody murder if the US closed down any base and left. All bases are the source of business opportunities and jobs for the locals. Name even one of these host countries that wants the US to go?

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard, @Derer

    Most important is Germany or Japan. Those 50k American soldiers in Germany are not there to protect Germany but to put out any sign of anti-Americanism. Russians left East Germany and unified the nation, while London and Paris objected. Where is the prove of your suggested pathetic hypocrisy?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Derer

    As long as Dumb Dumb, the Russian midget dictator is in power, the bases will remain:

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jMeVudGMgAY/maxresdefault.jpg

  197. Was there something like the Great Awokening but with bathroom humor?

  198. @John Johnson
    Russians stand in line for eggs:
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1841499/Russia-Vladimir-Putin-inflation-economy-war

    And back to USSR style lines for the basics.

    Interesting video:

    From cook to stormtrooper in one day
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1F0Y2T7sww

    That's one hell of a promotion. Not sure what these Ruskies are complaining about.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    Johnny, you are getting more and more agitated and nervous, signalling the Ukie defeat is near.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Johnny, you are getting more and more agitated and nervous, signalling the Ukie defeat is near.

    Posting a video is a sign of agitation?

    I've been posting such videos since the start of the 2.5 week special military operation.

    It's taken just a tad longer than 2.5 weeks.

    My only regret is not buying defense industry stocks. Who knew that the Russian military was this incompetent and would drag out the war while making US defense companies wealthy.

    I'll probably buy myself a car when this is over and my stocks rebound. But you keep telling yourself that I must be anxious.

  199. Credit to Mr. Owen as his 2022 May prediction about eggs in RF was right on the money;)

    Russia self sanctioned food in 2015. So it has large numbers of new factory farms. These are of course designed around the litter frequency, sizes, growth rates, food consumption and weight at maturity of very specific breeds (strains) of organism. There’s the rub. Freshly hatched chicks, breeding sows, bull semen, tomato seedlings are all imported from the EU. Even seed potatoes on the big farms. So eggs, chickens, pork, milk, cheese, beef, salad crops are within the production cycle time limits (6 months to 3 years) going to be a lot more expensive. Substitute breeds, even if usable, will be much less productive. Peasant farmers have been eased out by the big boys.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-187-russia-ukraine/#comment-5342090

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    There is a multinational avian flu issue at egg farms. Here is an update from the U.S.: (1)


    The Kansas Department of Agriculture has identified the highly pathogenic avian influence at two egg layer facilities in Kansas. One of the facilities is in McPherson County, and the other one is in Rice County.

    The KDA says the two facilities increased their biosecurity upon the initial HPAI outbreak in 2022. When the facilities noticed clinical signs of HPAI in their birds, that is when the KDA was contacted

    The egg layer facilities were placed under quarantine, and the birds were humanely depopulated and disposed of in an approved manner to prevent the spread of the disease, according to the KDA.
     
    Similar outbreaks have occurred in several other countries including Japan, Cambodia, and (gasp) Russia;)

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-found-at-two-kansas-egg-layer-facilities/ar-AA1lpyRV

    Replies: @sudden death

  200. @sudden death
    Credit to Mr. Owen as his 2022 May prediction about eggs in RF was right on the money;)

    Russia self sanctioned food in 2015. So it has large numbers of new factory farms. These are of course designed around the litter frequency, sizes, growth rates, food consumption and weight at maturity of very specific breeds (strains) of organism. There’s the rub. Freshly hatched chicks, breeding sows, bull semen, tomato seedlings are all imported from the EU. Even seed potatoes on the big farms. So eggs, chickens, pork, milk, cheese, beef, salad crops are within the production cycle time limits (6 months to 3 years) going to be a lot more expensive. Substitute breeds, even if usable, will be much less productive. Peasant farmers have been eased out by the big boys.
     
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-187-russia-ukraine/#comment-5342090


    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1735395112711229910

    Replies: @A123

    There is a multinational avian flu issue at egg farms. Here is an update from the U.S.: (1)

    The Kansas Department of Agriculture has identified the highly pathogenic avian influence at two egg layer facilities in Kansas. One of the facilities is in McPherson County, and the other one is in Rice County.

    The KDA says the two facilities increased their biosecurity upon the initial HPAI outbreak in 2022. When the facilities noticed clinical signs of HPAI in their birds, that is when the KDA was contacted

    The egg layer facilities were placed under quarantine, and the birds were humanely depopulated and disposed of in an approved manner to prevent the spread of the disease, according to the KDA.

    Similar outbreaks have occurred in several other countries including Japan, Cambodia, and (gasp) Russia;)

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-found-at-two-kansas-egg-layer-facilities/ar-AA1lpyRV

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123

    Such HPAI outbreaks are happening almost everywhere, but the notable eggs price crisis has been occuring only in RF lately, while answering Putin himself didn't even mention outbreak as some significant cause, therefore it might have been just additional cumulative clusterfuck in RF on the top of those specific systemic issues mentioned earlier by Mr. Owen;)


    So far this year, there have been 388 outbreaks of HPAI in commercial poultry in 22 European Union (EU) member states and neighboring countries. This is according to the Animal Disease Information System by the European Commission (EC; dated October 13).

    This source includes two areas that are not generally considered to belong to the continent of Europe. As a result, these totals include two outbreaks in Turkey (Tűrkiye) as well as one in the French overseas territory of Reunion, which is located in the western Indian Ocean.

    Since the EC’s previous update on October 6, the first outbreak of 2023 has occurred in Norway, and Poland’s total outbreaks increased by one to 62.

    Of the total, the country with the most outbreaks — 152 — continues to be France, although the number of outbreaks has not increased since July. Next comes Hungary, with 79 outbreaks for the year to date, unchanged since April.

    For comparison, 24 nations registered a total of 2,321 outbreaks in commercial poultry flocks through this system during 2022.
     

    https://www.wattagnet.com/poultry-meat/diseases-health/avian-influenza/article/15637496/commercial-poultry-hit-by-bird-flu-in-bulgaria-russia

    Replies: @A123

  201. ALEX JONES made a retro video game.

    Attack Epstein Island! Get it before it is censored.

    PEACE 😇

  202. @A123
    @sudden death

    There is a multinational avian flu issue at egg farms. Here is an update from the U.S.: (1)


    The Kansas Department of Agriculture has identified the highly pathogenic avian influence at two egg layer facilities in Kansas. One of the facilities is in McPherson County, and the other one is in Rice County.

    The KDA says the two facilities increased their biosecurity upon the initial HPAI outbreak in 2022. When the facilities noticed clinical signs of HPAI in their birds, that is when the KDA was contacted

    The egg layer facilities were placed under quarantine, and the birds were humanely depopulated and disposed of in an approved manner to prevent the spread of the disease, according to the KDA.
     
    Similar outbreaks have occurred in several other countries including Japan, Cambodia, and (gasp) Russia;)

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-found-at-two-kansas-egg-layer-facilities/ar-AA1lpyRV

    Replies: @sudden death

    Such HPAI outbreaks are happening almost everywhere, but the notable eggs price crisis has been occuring only in RF lately, while answering Putin himself didn’t even mention outbreak as some significant cause, therefore it might have been just additional cumulative clusterfuck in RF on the top of those specific systemic issues mentioned earlier by Mr. Owen;)

    So far this year, there have been 388 outbreaks of HPAI in commercial poultry in 22 European Union (EU) member states and neighboring countries. This is according to the Animal Disease Information System by the European Commission (EC; dated October 13).

    This source includes two areas that are not generally considered to belong to the continent of Europe. As a result, these totals include two outbreaks in Turkey (Tűrkiye) as well as one in the French overseas territory of Reunion, which is located in the western Indian Ocean.

    Since the EC’s previous update on October 6, the first outbreak of 2023 has occurred in Norway, and Poland’s total outbreaks increased by one to 62.

    Of the total, the country with the most outbreaks — 152 — continues to be France, although the number of outbreaks has not increased since July. Next comes Hungary, with 79 outbreaks for the year to date, unchanged since April.

    For comparison, 24 nations registered a total of 2,321 outbreaks in commercial poultry flocks through this system during 2022.

    https://www.wattagnet.com/poultry-meat/diseases-health/avian-influenza/article/15637496/commercial-poultry-hit-by-bird-flu-in-bulgaria-russia

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    Your "count by # of farms" concept is obviously flawed -- Countries with fewer but larger farms have more chickens per farm;) Let's look at real world facts:

    Japan has a major egg shortage issue;)

    https://www.efeedlink.com/contents/12-13-2023/a785eef7-e31c-40b7-b1f2-6a16fe7a0c7a-0001.html

    New Zealand is just now escaping theirs;)

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/news/egg-shortage-supply-just-about-there-as-prices-finally-descend/46VAH3MFSNH7VMA4Y4BWTQXMBU/

    As I previously indicated, the U.S. has a regional egg shortage;) The Kansas containment effort has saved Christmas baking, but their may be a more widespread problem in 1Q2024.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @sudden death

  203. @sudden death
    @A123

    Such HPAI outbreaks are happening almost everywhere, but the notable eggs price crisis has been occuring only in RF lately, while answering Putin himself didn't even mention outbreak as some significant cause, therefore it might have been just additional cumulative clusterfuck in RF on the top of those specific systemic issues mentioned earlier by Mr. Owen;)


    So far this year, there have been 388 outbreaks of HPAI in commercial poultry in 22 European Union (EU) member states and neighboring countries. This is according to the Animal Disease Information System by the European Commission (EC; dated October 13).

    This source includes two areas that are not generally considered to belong to the continent of Europe. As a result, these totals include two outbreaks in Turkey (Tűrkiye) as well as one in the French overseas territory of Reunion, which is located in the western Indian Ocean.

    Since the EC’s previous update on October 6, the first outbreak of 2023 has occurred in Norway, and Poland’s total outbreaks increased by one to 62.

    Of the total, the country with the most outbreaks — 152 — continues to be France, although the number of outbreaks has not increased since July. Next comes Hungary, with 79 outbreaks for the year to date, unchanged since April.

    For comparison, 24 nations registered a total of 2,321 outbreaks in commercial poultry flocks through this system during 2022.
     

    https://www.wattagnet.com/poultry-meat/diseases-health/avian-influenza/article/15637496/commercial-poultry-hit-by-bird-flu-in-bulgaria-russia

    Replies: @A123

    Your “count by # of farms” concept is obviously flawed — Countries with fewer but larger farms have more chickens per farm;) Let’s look at real world facts:

    Japan has a major egg shortage issue;)

    https://www.efeedlink.com/contents/12-13-2023/a785eef7-e31c-40b7-b1f2-6a16fe7a0c7a-0001.html

    New Zealand is just now escaping theirs;)

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/news/egg-shortage-supply-just-about-there-as-prices-finally-descend/46VAH3MFSNH7VMA4Y4BWTQXMBU/

    As I previously indicated, the U.S. has a regional egg shortage;) The Kansas containment effort has saved Christmas baking, but their may be a more widespread problem in 1Q2024.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123

    While Japan case might be wishfully stretched as remotely comparable somewhat to RF, but New Zealand situation had nothing to do with diseases or systemic flaws/vulnerabilities, but mainly just local ban implementation struggles related to battery-caged hens:


    Eggs have been in short supply - and expensive - since the start of the year when a ban on battery-caged hens came into effect, sparking shortages across the country.

    Egg Producers’ Federation executive director Michael Brooks said the layer hen population had grown from 3.4 million in February to 3.8 million - and added there should be another 100,000 more by January.

    Brooks said it had been a “fairly brutal” time for farmers making the costly switch.

    The rising cost of grain, and the decision by Foodstuffs and Woolworths, formerly Countdown, to also ban colony-caged hen’s eggs by 2025, had intensified the situation, he said.

    “It’s been a very tough couple of years for the layer hen farming industry,” Brooks said.

    “There’s been huge financial pressures on farmers ...

    “It was a minimum of $1 million just to change from the old style cage to the colony cage, then if you were going into free range, that meant buying a whole new farm, a new set up. So some really big costs and a lot of investment.

    “All those things had an impact, so it’s led to a pretty messy situation, and it’s taken a while for the supply to bounce back, but it is just about there now.
     

    Replies: @A123

  204. @A123
    @sudden death

    Your "count by # of farms" concept is obviously flawed -- Countries with fewer but larger farms have more chickens per farm;) Let's look at real world facts:

    Japan has a major egg shortage issue;)

    https://www.efeedlink.com/contents/12-13-2023/a785eef7-e31c-40b7-b1f2-6a16fe7a0c7a-0001.html

    New Zealand is just now escaping theirs;)

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/news/egg-shortage-supply-just-about-there-as-prices-finally-descend/46VAH3MFSNH7VMA4Y4BWTQXMBU/

    As I previously indicated, the U.S. has a regional egg shortage;) The Kansas containment effort has saved Christmas baking, but their may be a more widespread problem in 1Q2024.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @sudden death

    While Japan case might be wishfully stretched as remotely comparable somewhat to RF, but New Zealand situation had nothing to do with diseases or systemic flaws/vulnerabilities, but mainly just local ban implementation struggles related to battery-caged hens:

    Eggs have been in short supply – and expensive – since the start of the year when a ban on battery-caged hens came into effect, sparking shortages across the country.

    Egg Producers’ Federation executive director Michael Brooks said the layer hen population had grown from 3.4 million in February to 3.8 million – and added there should be another 100,000 more by January.

    Brooks said it had been a “fairly brutal” time for farmers making the costly switch.

    The rising cost of grain, and the decision by Foodstuffs and Woolworths, formerly Countdown, to also ban colony-caged hen’s eggs by 2025, had intensified the situation, he said.

    “It’s been a very tough couple of years for the layer hen farming industry,” Brooks said.

    “There’s been huge financial pressures on farmers …

    “It was a minimum of $1 million just to change from the old style cage to the colony cage, then if you were going into free range, that meant buying a whole new farm, a new set up. So some really big costs and a lot of investment.

    “All those things had an impact, so it’s led to a pretty messy situation, and it’s taken a while for the supply to bounce back, but it is just about there now.

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death


    Japan case might be wishfully stretched as remotely comparable somewhat to RF
     
    You admit the Japan case fits. And, you ignored the U.S. case completely.

    I accept your apology. Thanks.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @sudden death

  205. @sudden death
    @A123

    While Japan case might be wishfully stretched as remotely comparable somewhat to RF, but New Zealand situation had nothing to do with diseases or systemic flaws/vulnerabilities, but mainly just local ban implementation struggles related to battery-caged hens:


    Eggs have been in short supply - and expensive - since the start of the year when a ban on battery-caged hens came into effect, sparking shortages across the country.

    Egg Producers’ Federation executive director Michael Brooks said the layer hen population had grown from 3.4 million in February to 3.8 million - and added there should be another 100,000 more by January.

    Brooks said it had been a “fairly brutal” time for farmers making the costly switch.

    The rising cost of grain, and the decision by Foodstuffs and Woolworths, formerly Countdown, to also ban colony-caged hen’s eggs by 2025, had intensified the situation, he said.

    “It’s been a very tough couple of years for the layer hen farming industry,” Brooks said.

    “There’s been huge financial pressures on farmers ...

    “It was a minimum of $1 million just to change from the old style cage to the colony cage, then if you were going into free range, that meant buying a whole new farm, a new set up. So some really big costs and a lot of investment.

    “All those things had an impact, so it’s led to a pretty messy situation, and it’s taken a while for the supply to bounce back, but it is just about there now.
     

    Replies: @A123

    Japan case might be wishfully stretched as remotely comparable somewhat to RF

    You admit the Japan case fits. And, you ignored the U.S. case completely.

    I accept your apology. Thanks.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123

    There is not a single word about any egg shortages regarding US in your own given links, just the occurrence of regional infection outbreak in one state of Kansas atm without any notable wider market consequences so far;)

    Replies: @A123

  206. @Mikel
    @AP


    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.
     
    Of course it's all being paid by us taxpayers.

    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds. There is no such thing as getting a supplemental appropriations bill approved without adding to the deficit. Period. Technically speaking, I guess the bill adds to the deficit when the government actually uses the Treasury to allocate the funds but that's what the bill does: allow the executive to use the Treasury for the requested purpose.

    I'm not going to repeat how an increased deficit is paid for. If you don't know that, any further discussion is a total waste of time.

    That seems to just be the standard way of accounting.
     
    I don't know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent. That is the real standard way of accounting. If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all. And that's just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.

    Paying American workers in the defence sector is not a bad use of money.
     
    Not for those workers and their employers certainly. For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad. We would all choose better uses for the part of that money that comes from our pockets, if given the chance. If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy and we'd all be much richer. Why hasn't anyone thought of that before you?

    Try to be to honest
     
    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer. And while doing it tries to make people here believe that the constitutional and national accounting processes have stopped working as usual or that new brave economic theories have started to come into effect. It is actually you who is doing all those ridiculous claims.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP

    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    No, it’s not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?

    Taxpayers are paying to have it shipped to Ukraine; but that cost is offset by what it would have cost to keep maintaining the old vehicles and/or to decommission them and dispose of them.

    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds.

    And those additional funds aren’t accounted for by that equipment.

    I don’t know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent…. If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all.

    Bingo.

    So what it seems we are really doing, is paying for new equipment to replace the old and obsolete stuff being sent to Ukraine (which is still better than the old Soviet equipment the Ukrainians and Russians are using). Those billions of dollars aren’t being used to buy 30 year old Bradleys being sent to Ukraine (those were purchased decades ago) . They are allocated to replace them with new vehicles for the US military.

    Same with many of the missiles. America was sending older ones nearing or even exceeding their service life, and replacing them with new ones for itself.

    So this part of the Ukraine aid package supposedly spent “on Ukraine” is actually spent “on the USA.”

    Do you oppose the US massively upgrading its military, and replacing expiring missiles, while sending the old stock to Ukraine to use to defend itself?

    And that’s just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.

    It was around 31%.

    And this part of the package is incorrectly presented as cash being sent to Ukraine.

    Paying American workers in the defense sector is not a bad use of money.

    Not for those workers and their employers certainly.

    And also for the communities where those workers live and spend their money.

    For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad

    Is it? Many people think that maintaining a healthy defense industry with high production capacity is a very good thing.

    If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy

    Or maybe the pure market is more efficient for most economic sectors but not for the defense industry (as also not for the police, corrections, etc.). At least as long as the military and its industry don’t maintain self-sufficiency by pillaging other countries. You obviously and for very good reason don’t have a problem with government spending program to secure the border.

    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer

    The Ukraine war is a tiny fraction of the defense budget, and much of it consists of upgrading the US’s own military.

    Speaking of which, I am not sure, but I suspect more of us American taxpayers support helping Ukraine and a greater share of freeloaders oppose doing so.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/05/10/americans-hold-positive-feelings-toward-nato-and-ukraine-see-russia-as-an-enemy/

    “Americans who negatively rate the economic situation and indicate dissatisfaction with the way democracy works in the U.S. are more likely to believe the country should concentrate on issues at home. Americans with lower incomes are also more likely than their middle- or upper-income counterparts to say that the U.S. should focus on domestic issues.”

    • Replies: @AP
    @AP


    And this part of the package is incorrectly presented as cash being sent to Ukraine.
     
    By some of Ukraine's detractors, who claim all the aid is cash being given to Ukraine. Not the article.

    (missed the editing window)
    , @Mikel
    @AP


    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    No, it’s not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?
     
    I have already explained why all supplemental appropriations bills add to the existing deficit and are therefore paid by taxpayers. That is in fact a good part of the reason why the fiscal conservative side of the GOP opposes this bill.

    Just because you refuse to accept the obvious I'm not going to repeat myself like a parrot. Anyone else here apart from you who disagrees is welcome to challenge my point but otherwise the matter is more than settled.

    Debating your ideas about an invasion of space aliens being good for the economy (which is what you are arguing, whether you know it or not) is also a very poor use of my time. Economic theory is not this blog's forte. And we all know that you don't support the Ukraine aid bill because of how good it is for the economy anyway :-)


    You obviously and for very good reason don’t have a problem with government spending program to secure the border.
     
    Not really. What I support is walling and fencing the border as required to stem illegal immigration (which is not at all what Biden is requesting funds for). And I do that precisely because, once the project was complete, it would save lots of taxpayers dollars in al sorts of costs directly associated to the illegal invasion and it would save us even more in the long term in many other types of costs. MAGA is an improvement over the Tea Party movement but there is plenty of common ground between both.

    Replies: @AP

  207. @AP
    @Mikel


    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.
     

    No, it's not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?

    Taxpayers are paying to have it shipped to Ukraine; but that cost is offset by what it would have cost to keep maintaining the old vehicles and/or to decommission them and dispose of them.


    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds.
     
    And those additional funds aren't accounted for by that equipment.

    I don’t know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent.... If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all.
     
    Bingo.

    So what it seems we are really doing, is paying for new equipment to replace the old and obsolete stuff being sent to Ukraine (which is still better than the old Soviet equipment the Ukrainians and Russians are using). Those billions of dollars aren't being used to buy 30 year old Bradleys being sent to Ukraine (those were purchased decades ago) . They are allocated to replace them with new vehicles for the US military.

    Same with many of the missiles. America was sending older ones nearing or even exceeding their service life, and replacing them with new ones for itself.

    So this part of the Ukraine aid package supposedly spent "on Ukraine" is actually spent "on the USA."

    Do you oppose the US massively upgrading its military, and replacing expiring missiles, while sending the old stock to Ukraine to use to defend itself?


    And that’s just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.
     
    It was around 31%.

    And this part of the package is incorrectly presented as cash being sent to Ukraine.


    Paying American workers in the defense sector is not a bad use of money.

    Not for those workers and their employers certainly.
     

    And also for the communities where those workers live and spend their money.

    For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad
     
    Is it? Many people think that maintaining a healthy defense industry with high production capacity is a very good thing.

    If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy
     
    Or maybe the pure market is more efficient for most economic sectors but not for the defense industry (as also not for the police, corrections, etc.). At least as long as the military and its industry don't maintain self-sufficiency by pillaging other countries. You obviously and for very good reason don't have a problem with government spending program to secure the border.

    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer
     
    The Ukraine war is a tiny fraction of the defense budget, and much of it consists of upgrading the US's own military.

    Speaking of which, I am not sure, but I suspect more of us American taxpayers support helping Ukraine and a greater share of freeloaders oppose doing so.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/05/10/americans-hold-positive-feelings-toward-nato-and-ukraine-see-russia-as-an-enemy/

    "Americans who negatively rate the economic situation and indicate dissatisfaction with the way democracy works in the U.S. are more likely to believe the country should concentrate on issues at home. Americans with lower incomes are also more likely than their middle- or upper-income counterparts to say that the U.S. should focus on domestic issues."

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    And this part of the package is incorrectly presented as cash being sent to Ukraine.

    By some of Ukraine’s detractors, who claim all the aid is cash being given to Ukraine. Not the article.

    (missed the editing window)

  208. @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    You are so fucking wierd m’dude.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack


    You’re right. I’m not crazy about you either, so why don’t you quit following me around here at this blogsite? What’s the matter, don’t you have any other buddies here you can hang out with?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Hacky wants the thread to be him and John Johnson, with the occasional meamjojo ;-)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/13/ukraine-aid-united-states-european-union/


    An unspoken, unspeakable potential endgame in the Russia-Ukraine war is suddenly being uttered out loud: Kyiv is at risk of losing — and suffering unimaginable carnage and consequences.

    Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, told a Washington forum last week that the “big risk” is that Kyiv’s troops could “lose this war.”

    That message should jolt policymakers on both sides of the Atlantic. The danger, as Ukraine’s top general warned publicly last month, isn’t simply stalemate. It is that Ukrainian forces, running low on equipment, might be compelled to fall back, shorten their defensive lines and abandon territory.
    “It would be a way back to the darkest times of the war,” Nico Lange, a German security expert on Ukraine, told me.

    It’s essential to think about what Ukraine’s defeat means, because it would be as much a strategic disaster for the United States and its NATO allies as a tableau of terror for Ukraine. Dual cataclysms, equally stark, played out on different timetables.

    A complete Ukrainian military collapse is unlikely, at least in coming months. Kyiv’s armed forces remain well-led and motivated, and they are husbanding equipment to prepare for shortfalls. But it is equally unlikely to expect a negotiated cease-fire with Russia that would maintain existing battle lines. To believe in that seemingly anodyne outcome is to misjudge Putin — again.

    For the Kremlin dictator, a “compromise” would involve Ukraine’s subjugation and dissolution as an independent state. That would include regime change, with Zelensky in exile (or dead), as well as an end to Kyiv’s aspirations to join the E.U. or NATO.

     

    I don't think joining the EU was a problem back in 2014 or 2021. It might be now.

    Ukraine in NATO has always been a red line, as now-CIA boss Bill Burns pointed out 15 years ago. What would the US do if Canada or Mexico chose to host Chinese missiles?

    “NATO enlargement, particularly to Ukraine, remains “an emotional and neuralgic issue” for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia. In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence, or, some claim, even civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.

     

    Which is precisely what happened.

    To be fair to the author, what we're actually reading is "Ukraine will lose UNLESS the US and Europe dig deep and send loads more money and weapons".

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

  209. @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    Most important is Germany or Japan. Those 50k American soldiers in Germany are not there to protect Germany but to put out any sign of anti-Americanism. Russians left East Germany and unified the nation, while London and Paris objected. Where is the prove of your suggested pathetic hypocrisy?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    As long as Dumb Dumb, the Russian midget dictator is in power, the bases will remain:

  210. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I recently re-watched the Sam Bankman Fried presentation on Bankless. It was four days before Coindesk spilled the beans on the FTX books and six days before CZ did the demolition job. I couldn't get much past the 30 minute mark but it is perhaps one of the ten all time internet hits so far. Aye aye aye aye aye aye aye.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytaa_5liwMA

    He is going to be locked up for a long time but they haven't done the sentence yet.

    Replies: @Sean

    Scam Bankrun-Fraud openly gave huge sums to the Dems, and secretly gave a similar amount to the Republicans. He was also covertly holding down the market price of Bitcoin (and maybe was not the only one because quite possibly there is someone still doing it).

    You can’t really deter someone like SBF who though it seems illogical had to be hugely important even in the scale of the disaster he’d cause. Stockton Rush the boss of the submarine that was destroyed on a trip to see the wreck of the Titanic was similar. They both absolutely knew how it would end.

    He didn’t get offered a plea bargain so they were forcing him to go to trial and the only intention of that was to make plead not guilty all the better to make an example of him the original soft hearted judge dropped out because of a conflict of interest with her husbands firm doing work for SBF’s company and she was replaced with the most dreaded judge in the system. I don’t think SBF is necessarily going to be hammered but any great leniency is unlikely now Don’t forget about Sam’s parents being law professors and probably having an unrealistic faith in what legal representation can achieve, especially misplaced in SBF’s context with his political donations embarrassing the government. The donations are what sank him because he was targeted. The speed of his trial proves it. He also cost Tom Brady (hired to do advertisments) a lot of money he invested in FTX.

    He hung himself out to dry in the stand, yet could have been the best most convincing witness ever and avoiding testifying to lies that could be exposed on cross examination by records but still would not have stood a chance with three of the four founders of the firm testifying that he did it. He did not take his pick of the law firms, a 76 year old close friend of the father and enormously wealthy investment fund owner, law professor, and in the 1980’s superstar defense attorney did the rounds to get someone to represent SBF and was turned down repeatedly, so the lawyers Sam got were well down the list and likely the only name ones who would take the case rather than being currently at the top of their game. They were facing a huge prosecutorial team out to get him only, and swiftly going to trial. He ought to have insisted the defence team concentrated on his case much more, they were obviously used to having much more time to work on other things while also mastering the avalanche of irrelevant ‘discovery’ detail in SBF’s case (common prosecutorial ploy flood the defence with complex documents).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Sean

    You omit his star performance at the New York Times Deal Book gala after the poop storm reached intensity of eleven.

    I am in the Balaji-is-a-loud-mouth-bullshit-artist club (and have acquired a habit of avoiding any of his race when able) but this really is a masterpiece:

    https://balajis.com/p/crypto-twitter-found-sbfs-fraud

  211. @John Johnson
    Russians stand in line for eggs:
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1841499/Russia-Vladimir-Putin-inflation-economy-war

    And back to USSR style lines for the basics.

    Interesting video:

    From cook to stormtrooper in one day
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1F0Y2T7sww

    That's one hell of a promotion. Not sure what these Ruskies are complaining about.

    Replies: @Derer, @Mr. Hack

    Not sure what these Ruskies are complaining about.

    I’m guessing that the 5k bonus that’s been promised is being delayed in the mail somewhere (Christmas mail is always slow this time of year). It couldn’t be that these hapless Russian idiots have only now figured out that they’re only being sent into Ukraine to become cannon fodder?

  212. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/27/be/f227bec343be864ea7d21a83d6cc41ec.png

    You're right. I'm not crazy about you either, so why don't you quit following me around here at this blogsite? What's the matter, don't you have any other buddies here you can hang out with?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Hacky wants the thread to be him and John Johnson, with the occasional meamjojo 😉

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/13/ukraine-aid-united-states-european-union/

    An unspoken, unspeakable potential endgame in the Russia-Ukraine war is suddenly being uttered out loud: Kyiv is at risk of losing — and suffering unimaginable carnage and consequences.

    Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, told a Washington forum last week that the “big risk” is that Kyiv’s troops could “lose this war.”

    That message should jolt policymakers on both sides of the Atlantic. The danger, as Ukraine’s top general warned publicly last month, isn’t simply stalemate. It is that Ukrainian forces, running low on equipment, might be compelled to fall back, shorten their defensive lines and abandon territory.
    “It would be a way back to the darkest times of the war,” Nico Lange, a German security expert on Ukraine, told me.

    It’s essential to think about what Ukraine’s defeat means, because it would be as much a strategic disaster for the United States and its NATO allies as a tableau of terror for Ukraine. Dual cataclysms, equally stark, played out on different timetables.

    A complete Ukrainian military collapse is unlikely, at least in coming months. Kyiv’s armed forces remain well-led and motivated, and they are husbanding equipment to prepare for shortfalls. But it is equally unlikely to expect a negotiated cease-fire with Russia that would maintain existing battle lines. To believe in that seemingly anodyne outcome is to misjudge Putin — again.

    For the Kremlin dictator, a “compromise” would involve Ukraine’s subjugation and dissolution as an independent state. That would include regime change, with Zelensky in exile (or dead), as well as an end to Kyiv’s aspirations to join the E.U. or NATO.

    I don’t think joining the EU was a problem back in 2014 or 2021. It might be now.

    Ukraine in NATO has always been a red line, as now-CIA boss Bill Burns pointed out 15 years ago. What would the US do if Canada or Mexico chose to host Chinese missiles?

    “NATO enlargement, particularly to Ukraine, remains “an emotional and neuralgic issue” for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia. In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence, or, some claim, even civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.

    Which is precisely what happened.

    To be fair to the author, what we’re actually reading is “Ukraine will lose UNLESS the US and Europe dig deep and send loads more money and weapons“.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "Might, might, might...unless." Did I miss anything important?...

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Genocide Joe has pledged all available weapons to Israel so there isn't anything to write about unless you are employed by the jack ass Washington Post or similar. If the Palestinians had their act together they would do an American terror attack and pin it on Russia but they do not have the Mossad magic power. The only thing for them to do is die and take as many Jews with them as they can manage.

  213. @Gerard1234
    @Mr. XYZ


    Reminds me a bit of life in the Polish Corridor under Nazi German rule, for those who were both ethnic Poles and pre-1918 German citizens but politically loyal to Poland.
     
    Just a reminder (shithead) that the Poles fought far more enthusiastically and intensively FOR Nazi Germany from 1939-45, than they did in "resisting" for 2 weeks in September 1939. Huge numbers of Poles fought for Nazi Germany. No real surprise as there was plenty of good will from 1933-39 in addition to the Poles loser/inferiority complex .......as the Nazi government ministers favourite holiday destination was Poland and, of course, Poland was Hitlers most loyal ally from 1933-39

    Replies: @ShortOnTime

    I’m afraid that I have to correct you here.

    Poles in WW2 resisted Nazi Germany a lot more than they collaborated, at least as much as was possible for a conquered and defeated nation. Armia Krajowa/Home Army and the Polish Communist acts of resistance were real. The August-October 1944 Warsaw Uprising was very real (not to be confused with the Jewish ghetto one).

    There was less enthusiasm for Nazi Germany in Poland than Napoleon in 19th century.

    Anyway, what’s more interesting is what really happened with the 2010 Smolensk plane crash of high level Polish visitors to Russia. Just an accident or something else? After all, Poland-Russia reconciliation efforts have been completely dead since then, perhaps on purpose …

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk_air_disaster

    • Thanks: S
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @ShortOnTime


    Anyway, what’s more interesting is what really happened with the 2010 Smolensk plane crash of high level Polish visitors to Russia.
     
    New Polish government just admitted that their second commission falsified the results of the expertise to propose two mutually contradictory versions: 1) Russians shot that plane down; 2) the bomb exploded on that plane. The original explanation, that the plane was approaching the airfield too low in foggy conditions, which Russians endorsed, remains.

    This does not mean any impending rapprochement between Poland and the RF. Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.

    Replies: @AP, @ShortOnTime

  214. The past few weeks they’ve been doing a full court press that Trump is going to be a ‘dictator’, specifically a new ‘Adolf Hitler’, should he be re-elected in 2024. The Atlantic has just devoted an entire issue to this present ‘danger to our democracy’. The dire series of articles (see link below) is entitled ‘If Trump Wins’.

    Skimming through them, not surprisingly the articles seem high on emotionalism, but low on substance.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/if-trump-wins/

    Meanwhile it’s openly being said that if Trump wins the progs will be burning down the cities. And, if Trump wins and is prevented from ruling, or is prevented from winning, due to lawfare, the conservatives may ‘rise up’.

    The term ‘civil war’ is more and more openly being spoken of on the airwaves, almost as if it’s a given now that one will take place.

    Being that many amongst the delusional progressives seem to quite literally see Trump as ‘a new Adolf Hitler’ there is an open growing concern being expressed that one of these delusional fanatics might take it upon themselves to assassinate Trump, as after all, if only someone had assassinated the real Hitler early on, all which followed his rise to power might have been prevented.

    Many, myself included, have commented upon how US history from the time of the country’s founding in 1776 has uncannily closely paralleled ancient Rome’s history.

    One such parallel, amongst others, is the late Roman Republic’s ruling First Triumvirate, consisting of Rome’s richest man, the Roman billionaire and real estate speculator Marcus Crassus, the Roman general Pompey, and Crassus’ political protege, Julius Caesar. The obvious parallel here is with Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo, and Trump’s political protege, Jared Kushner.

    It was the shocking untimely death of the real estate speculator Crassus (due to an unwise decision of his regarding an attack upon Parthia, ie present day Iran), which would ultimately result in the kicking off of a Roman civil war, a war which heralded the fall of the Republic, and the rise in it’s place of a military dictatorship.

    As if on cue, and apparently for the benefit of those who might be slow to take a hint, coming this April 2024 a new movie is being released in the United States bluntly entitled Civil War.

    It’s promotional subtheme: ‘All Empires Fall’

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @S

    Definitely predictive programming.

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren't violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war. All of this churning in the media is to justify more surveillance and forced compliance. Probably also to expand gun control.

    What I can see occurring is the government's intentionally created chaos has unintended consequences. Something like the Hispanics (mostly illegal and first two generations) go toe to toe with the blacks (African Americans), vying for primacy. Instead of trying to prevent or control this fracas, normal American institutions and citizens stand back and watch and protect themselves. The two competing subgroups in the USA greatly diminish in size and more importantly clearly display their general lack of compatibility with civilization in North America. During the clean up of this mess the woke and PC ideological influences are exposed and dissipated. The elite groups and deep state which intentionally drove the USA to this chaos are held accountable.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @S

  215. @A123
    @sudden death


    Japan case might be wishfully stretched as remotely comparable somewhat to RF
     
    You admit the Japan case fits. And, you ignored the U.S. case completely.

    I accept your apology. Thanks.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @sudden death

    There is not a single word about any egg shortages regarding US in your own given links, just the occurrence of regional infection outbreak in one state of Kansas atm without any notable wider market consequences so far;)

    • Replies: @A123
    @sudden death

    ROTFL;) (1)



    Get Ready for $5 Eggs Again After Bird Flu Hits Top US Producer
    Outbreak affects hens at a Cal-Maine Foods facility in Kansas

     

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-13/ready-for-5-eggs-again-prices-set-to-rise-after-bird-flu-hits-top-us-producer

    Replies: @sudden death

  216. @sudden death
    @A123

    There is not a single word about any egg shortages regarding US in your own given links, just the occurrence of regional infection outbreak in one state of Kansas atm without any notable wider market consequences so far;)

    Replies: @A123

    ROTFL;) (1)

    Get Ready for $5 Eggs Again After Bird Flu Hits Top US Producer
    Outbreak affects hens at a Cal-Maine Foods facility in Kansas

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-13/ready-for-5-eggs-again-prices-set-to-rise-after-bird-flu-hits-top-us-producer

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @A123

    Instead of journo clickbait fearmongering, real US egg market prices SO FAR are not reacting at all, so wake me up if/when their prediction comes home to roost;)


    Eggs US decreased 3.68 USD/DOZEN or 69.57% since the beginning of 2023, according to trading on a contract for difference (CFD) that tracks the benchmark market for this commodity. Historically, Eggs US reached an all time high of 5.29 in December of 2022.
     
    https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  217. @S
    The past few weeks they've been doing a full court press that Trump is going to be a 'dictator', specifically a new 'Adolf Hitler', should he be re-elected in 2024. The Atlantic has just devoted an entire issue to this present 'danger to our democracy'. The dire series of articles (see link below) is entitled 'If Trump Wins'.

    Skimming through them, not surprisingly the articles seem high on emotionalism, but low on substance.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/if-trump-wins/

    Meanwhile it's openly being said that if Trump wins the progs will be burning down the cities. And, if Trump wins and is prevented from ruling, or is prevented from winning, due to lawfare, the conservatives may 'rise up'.

    The term 'civil war' is more and more openly being spoken of on the airwaves, almost as if it's a given now that one will take place.

    Being that many amongst the delusional progressives seem to quite literally see Trump as 'a new Adolf Hitler' there is an open growing concern being expressed that one of these delusional fanatics might take it upon themselves to assassinate Trump, as after all, if only someone had assassinated the real Hitler early on, all which followed his rise to power might have been prevented.

    Many, myself included, have commented upon how US history from the time of the country's founding in 1776 has uncannily closely paralleled ancient Rome's history.

    One such parallel, amongst others, is the late Roman Republic's ruling First Triumvirate, consisting of Rome's richest man, the Roman billionaire and real estate speculator Marcus Crassus, the Roman general Pompey, and Crassus' political protege, Julius Caesar. The obvious parallel here is with Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo, and Trump's political protege, Jared Kushner.

    It was the shocking untimely death of the real estate speculator Crassus (due to an unwise decision of his regarding an attack upon Parthia, ie present day Iran), which would ultimately result in the kicking off of a Roman civil war, a war which heralded the fall of the Republic, and the rise in it's place of a military dictatorship.

    As if on cue, and apparently for the benefit of those who might be slow to take a hint, coming this April 2024 a new movie is being released in the United States bluntly entitled Civil War.

    It's promotional subtheme: 'All Empires Fall'

    https://youtu.be/IHVIG0_-6JA?si=oshV9y8SQHsMGsbX

    Replies: @QCIC

    Definitely predictive programming.

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren’t violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war. All of this churning in the media is to justify more surveillance and forced compliance. Probably also to expand gun control.

    What I can see occurring is the government’s intentionally created chaos has unintended consequences. Something like the Hispanics (mostly illegal and first two generations) go toe to toe with the blacks (African Americans), vying for primacy. Instead of trying to prevent or control this fracas, normal American institutions and citizens stand back and watch and protect themselves. The two competing subgroups in the USA greatly diminish in size and more importantly clearly display their general lack of compatibility with civilization in North America. During the clean up of this mess the woke and PC ideological influences are exposed and dissipated. The elite groups and deep state which intentionally drove the USA to this chaos are held accountable.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    Something like the Hispanics (mostly illegal and first two generations) go toe to toe with the blacks (African Americans), vying for primacy.
     
    What exact signs do you see within the American Hispanic community that leads you to believe that they're motivated to go to war with the American Black community? Even show any disillusionment or "general lack of compatibility with civilization in North America" as you put it? Where I live in the Southwest, where there's an ocean of Hispanics (Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans) there seems to be just the opposite social forces on display. These folks are eager to assimilate into the larger American mosaic and are too busy to resort to much violence. Not even any serious gang violence in Phoenix to be seen, even on the local evening news?

    "Blacks"? Well, there aren't nearly as many in Arizona as there are Hispanics, but they did make some noise during the BLM Floyd general time frame. The local police department got into huge trouble when it became clear that they had acted on concocted charges and perhaps had planted some of their own to help incite some violence and to make it look like a nefarious black gang was involved in instigating violent protests. No black gang was ever found to even exist.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @S
    @QCIC


    Definitely predictive programming.
     
    Yes, I see the movie as being some rather blunt 'predictive programming'

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren’t violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war.
     
    Here we'll probably have to agree to disagree.

    I think the United States (not to mention the whole of the Anglosphere) may well experience what Russia experienced 1917-22 as described in the linked below book Imperial Apocalypse, ie defeat in a world war, Communist Revolution, a 'civil war' featuring roving ethnic/political armies led by warlords and characterized by mass executions, a pandemic, and economic collapse, all near simultaneously.

    https://academic.oup.com/book/12205?login=false

    I say this with the caveat that I think the US may experience something worse than what Russia did then as Russia did not have 40 million weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding 'reparations', and did not have the high number of personal firearms with their associated mountains of ammo.

    I'd much prefer your more sanguine vision of things be the correct one, however. :-)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

  218. @A123
    @sudden death

    ROTFL;) (1)



    Get Ready for $5 Eggs Again After Bird Flu Hits Top US Producer
    Outbreak affects hens at a Cal-Maine Foods facility in Kansas

     

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-13/ready-for-5-eggs-again-prices-set-to-rise-after-bird-flu-hits-top-us-producer

    Replies: @sudden death

    Instead of journo clickbait fearmongering, real US egg market prices SO FAR are not reacting at all, so wake me up if/when their prediction comes home to roost;)

    Eggs US decreased 3.68 USD/DOZEN or 69.57% since the beginning of 2023, according to trading on a contract for difference (CFD) that tracks the benchmark market for this commodity. Historically, Eggs US reached an all time high of 5.29 in December of 2022.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @sudden death

    I have seen eggs with discount promotion multiple times in the few months. There is a possibility the demand curve got a whack when the temporary price spike hit last year.

    Your local restaurant may have not rolled back their menu prices though. I don't spend much money in restaurants.

  219. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Johnny, you are getting more and more agitated and nervous, signalling the Ukie defeat is near.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Johnny, you are getting more and more agitated and nervous, signalling the Ukie defeat is near.

    Posting a video is a sign of agitation?

    I’ve been posting such videos since the start of the 2.5 week special military operation.

    It’s taken just a tad longer than 2.5 weeks.

    My only regret is not buying defense industry stocks. Who knew that the Russian military was this incompetent and would drag out the war while making US defense companies wealthy.

    I’ll probably buy myself a car when this is over and my stocks rebound. But you keep telling yourself that I must be anxious.

  220. @AP
    @Mikel


    the value of the equipment sent to Ukraine is not being paid by taxpayers.

    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.
     

    No, it's not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?

    Taxpayers are paying to have it shipped to Ukraine; but that cost is offset by what it would have cost to keep maintaining the old vehicles and/or to decommission them and dispose of them.


    Any time the government sends a supplemental appropriations bill to Congress (like the Ukraine-Israel aid package) it means that the regular budget it got approved for the year is not enough and the government needs additional funds.
     
    And those additional funds aren't accounted for by that equipment.

    I don’t know what exactly the US is sending to Ukraine and where it comes from but what I do know with 100% certainty is that your idea that Biden is doing double accounting of the price of equipment already paid for is bananas. Most likely they are calculating the replacement cost of the old equipment being sent.... If the US was depleting its military stocks without replacing them no appropriations bill would be necessary at all.
     
    Bingo.

    So what it seems we are really doing, is paying for new equipment to replace the old and obsolete stuff being sent to Ukraine (which is still better than the old Soviet equipment the Ukrainians and Russians are using). Those billions of dollars aren't being used to buy 30 year old Bradleys being sent to Ukraine (those were purchased decades ago) . They are allocated to replace them with new vehicles for the US military.

    Same with many of the missiles. America was sending older ones nearing or even exceeding their service life, and replacing them with new ones for itself.

    So this part of the Ukraine aid package supposedly spent "on Ukraine" is actually spent "on the USA."

    Do you oppose the US massively upgrading its military, and replacing expiring missiles, while sending the old stock to Ukraine to use to defend itself?


    And that’s just a small part of the package anyway, as the article provided by JJ shows.
     
    It was around 31%.

    And this part of the package is incorrectly presented as cash being sent to Ukraine.


    Paying American workers in the defense sector is not a bad use of money.

    Not for those workers and their employers certainly.
     

    And also for the communities where those workers live and spend their money.

    For the rest of us who are doing the paying it is bad
     
    Is it? Many people think that maintaining a healthy defense industry with high production capacity is a very good thing.

    If economic growth happened the way you describe economic recessions would become a thing of the past. Biden could extend your spending program to all the rest of the sectors of the economy
     
    Or maybe the pure market is more efficient for most economic sectors but not for the defense industry (as also not for the police, corrections, etc.). At least as long as the military and its industry don't maintain self-sufficiency by pillaging other countries. You obviously and for very good reason don't have a problem with government spending program to secure the border.

    It is not me who loves the country of his ancestors so much that feels the need to minimize the burden it is to the US taxpayer
     
    The Ukraine war is a tiny fraction of the defense budget, and much of it consists of upgrading the US's own military.

    Speaking of which, I am not sure, but I suspect more of us American taxpayers support helping Ukraine and a greater share of freeloaders oppose doing so.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/05/10/americans-hold-positive-feelings-toward-nato-and-ukraine-see-russia-as-an-enemy/

    "Americans who negatively rate the economic situation and indicate dissatisfaction with the way democracy works in the U.S. are more likely to believe the country should concentrate on issues at home. Americans with lower incomes are also more likely than their middle- or upper-income counterparts to say that the U.S. should focus on domestic issues."

    Replies: @AP, @Mikel

    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    No, it’s not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?

    I have already explained why all supplemental appropriations bills add to the existing deficit and are therefore paid by taxpayers. That is in fact a good part of the reason why the fiscal conservative side of the GOP opposes this bill.

    Just because you refuse to accept the obvious I’m not going to repeat myself like a parrot. Anyone else here apart from you who disagrees is welcome to challenge my point but otherwise the matter is more than settled.

    Debating your ideas about an invasion of space aliens being good for the economy (which is what you are arguing, whether you know it or not) is also a very poor use of my time. Economic theory is not this blog’s forte. And we all know that you don’t support the Ukraine aid bill because of how good it is for the economy anyway 🙂

    You obviously and for very good reason don’t have a problem with government spending program to secure the border.

    Not really. What I support is walling and fencing the border as required to stem illegal immigration (which is not at all what Biden is requesting funds for). And I do that precisely because, once the project was complete, it would save lots of taxpayers dollars in al sorts of costs directly associated to the illegal invasion and it would save us even more in the long term in many other types of costs. MAGA is an improvement over the Tea Party movement but there is plenty of common ground between both.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    No, it’s not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?


    I have already explained why all supplemental appropriations bills add to the existing deficit and are therefore paid by taxpayers.
     
    And I explained that the part of the bill involving weapons acquisition by Ukraine costs America nothing or almost nothing (it costs transportation minus the savings for America not having to decommission and dispose of them) because the weapons that Ukraine is getting are mostly those that were made and purchased decades ago. It is accounted for by replacement cost. Which means that the USA spends that money on itself by replacing old and obsolete weapons sent to Ukraine, with new ones.

    You conveniently ignored that explanation. Why?

    (at least you did not attempt to "win" the argument by lying this time. Credit where credit is due).

    Debating your ideas about an invasion of space aliens being good for the economy (which is what you are arguing, whether you know it or not)
     
    You should just be open in stating that you want America to be demilitarized to some extent, and oppose increasing the capacity of America's defense industries and improving and modernizing America's military.

    And we all know that you don’t support the Ukraine aid bill because of how good it is for the economy anyway
     
    Things can be good for both.

    The Ukraine aid bill helps Ukraine fight off its invader, punishes a country for invading another country, while also contributing to the modernization of America's military, the revival of its military industry, and helping the economy of the communities in America's heartland that are supported by the military industries. Lots of wins.

    Replies: @Mikel

  221. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Hacky wants the thread to be him and John Johnson, with the occasional meamjojo ;-)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/13/ukraine-aid-united-states-european-union/


    An unspoken, unspeakable potential endgame in the Russia-Ukraine war is suddenly being uttered out loud: Kyiv is at risk of losing — and suffering unimaginable carnage and consequences.

    Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, told a Washington forum last week that the “big risk” is that Kyiv’s troops could “lose this war.”

    That message should jolt policymakers on both sides of the Atlantic. The danger, as Ukraine’s top general warned publicly last month, isn’t simply stalemate. It is that Ukrainian forces, running low on equipment, might be compelled to fall back, shorten their defensive lines and abandon territory.
    “It would be a way back to the darkest times of the war,” Nico Lange, a German security expert on Ukraine, told me.

    It’s essential to think about what Ukraine’s defeat means, because it would be as much a strategic disaster for the United States and its NATO allies as a tableau of terror for Ukraine. Dual cataclysms, equally stark, played out on different timetables.

    A complete Ukrainian military collapse is unlikely, at least in coming months. Kyiv’s armed forces remain well-led and motivated, and they are husbanding equipment to prepare for shortfalls. But it is equally unlikely to expect a negotiated cease-fire with Russia that would maintain existing battle lines. To believe in that seemingly anodyne outcome is to misjudge Putin — again.

    For the Kremlin dictator, a “compromise” would involve Ukraine’s subjugation and dissolution as an independent state. That would include regime change, with Zelensky in exile (or dead), as well as an end to Kyiv’s aspirations to join the E.U. or NATO.

     

    I don't think joining the EU was a problem back in 2014 or 2021. It might be now.

    Ukraine in NATO has always been a red line, as now-CIA boss Bill Burns pointed out 15 years ago. What would the US do if Canada or Mexico chose to host Chinese missiles?

    “NATO enlargement, particularly to Ukraine, remains “an emotional and neuralgic issue” for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia. In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence, or, some claim, even civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.

     

    Which is precisely what happened.

    To be fair to the author, what we're actually reading is "Ukraine will lose UNLESS the US and Europe dig deep and send loads more money and weapons".

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

    “Might, might, might…unless.” Did I miss anything important?…

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    Did I miss anything important?
     
    Yeah, Kiev is losing. Does that matter to you? WashPost is laying out the consequences, they have been shaken up by the reality and given green light to say the obvious.

    You like to bury your head in the sand to hide in clownish nonsense. In your defense, most of Arizona is covered by dirty sand, that's what you are used to...and to endless taco trucks signaling the arrival of golden age for American civilization. You will need a mad libertarian like Javier Milei to put a fork in it...currently tested in Argentina. What if you could pretend it is the 1980's again? Given your choices, why not...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  222. @Sean
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Scam Bankrun-Fraud openly gave huge sums to the Dems, and secretly gave a similar amount to the Republicans. He was also covertly holding down the market price of Bitcoin (and maybe was not the only one because quite possibly there is someone still doing it).

    You can't really deter someone like SBF who though it seems illogical had to be hugely important even in the scale of the disaster he'd cause. Stockton Rush the boss of the submarine that was destroyed on a trip to see the wreck of the Titanic was similar. They both absolutely knew how it would end.

    He didn't get offered a plea bargain so they were forcing him to go to trial and the only intention of that was to make plead not guilty all the better to make an example of him the original soft hearted judge dropped out because of a conflict of interest with her husbands firm doing work for SBF's company and she was replaced with the most dreaded judge in the system. I don't think SBF is necessarily going to be hammered but any great leniency is unlikely now Don't forget about Sam's parents being law professors and probably having an unrealistic faith in what legal representation can achieve, especially misplaced in SBF's context with his political donations embarrassing the government. The donations are what sank him because he was targeted. The speed of his trial proves it. He also cost Tom Brady (hired to do advertisments) a lot of money he invested in FTX.


    He hung himself out to dry in the stand, yet could have been the best most convincing witness ever and avoiding testifying to lies that could be exposed on cross examination by records but still would not have stood a chance with three of the four founders of the firm testifying that he did it. He did not take his pick of the law firms, a 76 year old close friend of the father and enormously wealthy investment fund owner, law professor, and in the 1980's superstar defense attorney did the rounds to get someone to represent SBF and was turned down repeatedly, so the lawyers Sam got were well down the list and likely the only name ones who would take the case rather than being currently at the top of their game. They were facing a huge prosecutorial team out to get him only, and swiftly going to trial. He ought to have insisted the defence team concentrated on his case much more, they were obviously used to having much more time to work on other things while also mastering the avalanche of irrelevant 'discovery' detail in SBF's case (common prosecutorial ploy flood the defence with complex documents).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    You omit his star performance at the New York Times Deal Book gala after the poop storm reached intensity of eleven.

    I am in the Balaji-is-a-loud-mouth-bullshit-artist club (and have acquired a habit of avoiding any of his race when able) but this really is a masterpiece:

    https://balajis.com/p/crypto-twitter-found-sbfs-fraud

  223. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr. Hack

    Hacky wants the thread to be him and John Johnson, with the occasional meamjojo ;-)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/13/ukraine-aid-united-states-european-union/


    An unspoken, unspeakable potential endgame in the Russia-Ukraine war is suddenly being uttered out loud: Kyiv is at risk of losing — and suffering unimaginable carnage and consequences.

    Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, told a Washington forum last week that the “big risk” is that Kyiv’s troops could “lose this war.”

    That message should jolt policymakers on both sides of the Atlantic. The danger, as Ukraine’s top general warned publicly last month, isn’t simply stalemate. It is that Ukrainian forces, running low on equipment, might be compelled to fall back, shorten their defensive lines and abandon territory.
    “It would be a way back to the darkest times of the war,” Nico Lange, a German security expert on Ukraine, told me.

    It’s essential to think about what Ukraine’s defeat means, because it would be as much a strategic disaster for the United States and its NATO allies as a tableau of terror for Ukraine. Dual cataclysms, equally stark, played out on different timetables.

    A complete Ukrainian military collapse is unlikely, at least in coming months. Kyiv’s armed forces remain well-led and motivated, and they are husbanding equipment to prepare for shortfalls. But it is equally unlikely to expect a negotiated cease-fire with Russia that would maintain existing battle lines. To believe in that seemingly anodyne outcome is to misjudge Putin — again.

    For the Kremlin dictator, a “compromise” would involve Ukraine’s subjugation and dissolution as an independent state. That would include regime change, with Zelensky in exile (or dead), as well as an end to Kyiv’s aspirations to join the E.U. or NATO.

     

    I don't think joining the EU was a problem back in 2014 or 2021. It might be now.

    Ukraine in NATO has always been a red line, as now-CIA boss Bill Burns pointed out 15 years ago. What would the US do if Canada or Mexico chose to host Chinese missiles?

    “NATO enlargement, particularly to Ukraine, remains “an emotional and neuralgic issue” for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia. In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence, or, some claim, even civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.

     

    Which is precisely what happened.

    To be fair to the author, what we're actually reading is "Ukraine will lose UNLESS the US and Europe dig deep and send loads more money and weapons".

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Genocide Joe has pledged all available weapons to Israel so there isn’t anything to write about unless you are employed by the jack ass Washington Post or similar. If the Palestinians had their act together they would do an American terror attack and pin it on Russia but they do not have the Mossad magic power. The only thing for them to do is die and take as many Jews with them as they can manage.

  224. @sudden death
    @A123

    Instead of journo clickbait fearmongering, real US egg market prices SO FAR are not reacting at all, so wake me up if/when their prediction comes home to roost;)


    Eggs US decreased 3.68 USD/DOZEN or 69.57% since the beginning of 2023, according to trading on a contract for difference (CFD) that tracks the benchmark market for this commodity. Historically, Eggs US reached an all time high of 5.29 in December of 2022.
     
    https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    I have seen eggs with discount promotion multiple times in the few months. There is a possibility the demand curve got a whack when the temporary price spike hit last year.

    Your local restaurant may have not rolled back their menu prices though. I don’t spend much money in restaurants.

  225. @QCIC
    @S

    Definitely predictive programming.

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren't violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war. All of this churning in the media is to justify more surveillance and forced compliance. Probably also to expand gun control.

    What I can see occurring is the government's intentionally created chaos has unintended consequences. Something like the Hispanics (mostly illegal and first two generations) go toe to toe with the blacks (African Americans), vying for primacy. Instead of trying to prevent or control this fracas, normal American institutions and citizens stand back and watch and protect themselves. The two competing subgroups in the USA greatly diminish in size and more importantly clearly display their general lack of compatibility with civilization in North America. During the clean up of this mess the woke and PC ideological influences are exposed and dissipated. The elite groups and deep state which intentionally drove the USA to this chaos are held accountable.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @S

    Something like the Hispanics (mostly illegal and first two generations) go toe to toe with the blacks (African Americans), vying for primacy.

    What exact signs do you see within the American Hispanic community that leads you to believe that they’re motivated to go to war with the American Black community? Even show any disillusionment or “general lack of compatibility with civilization in North America” as you put it? Where I live in the Southwest, where there’s an ocean of Hispanics (Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans) there seems to be just the opposite social forces on display. These folks are eager to assimilate into the larger American mosaic and are too busy to resort to much violence. Not even any serious gang violence in Phoenix to be seen, even on the local evening news?

    “Blacks”? Well, there aren’t nearly as many in Arizona as there are Hispanics, but they did make some noise during the BLM Floyd general time frame. The local police department got into huge trouble when it became clear that they had acted on concocted charges and perhaps had planted some of their own to help incite some violence and to make it look like a nefarious black gang was involved in instigating violent protests. No black gang was ever found to even exist.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I was describing a possible future, not an observation.

    As the Hispanic population increases disproportionately in many areas I expect the standard of living to go down due to IQ and cultural differences from the Anglo groups which created the society in the area. In many places this may put Hispanics in conflict with the low income, high crime black subculture. I believe both races have substantial violent criminal gang aspects. The criminality of the Mexican drug cartels seems to be off the charts.

    I agree with Fred Reed's observation that the Mayans and other pre-Columbian native groups had a smart fraction of people who accomplished amazing things. On the other hand, I suspect that without continuous interaction with a dominant European culture their countries end up at a third world level. These people come from an interesting mixture of indigenous and European colonial influences with the attendant mixture of tribal religions and strong Catholicism.

  226. @Mr. Hack
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "Might, might, might...unless." Did I miss anything important?...

    Replies: @Beckow

    Did I miss anything important?

    Yeah, Kiev is losing. Does that matter to you? WashPost is laying out the consequences, they have been shaken up by the reality and given green light to say the obvious.

    You like to bury your head in the sand to hide in clownish nonsense. In your defense, most of Arizona is covered by dirty sand, that’s what you are used to…and to endless taco trucks signaling the arrival of golden age for American civilization. You will need a mad libertarian like Javier Milei to put a fork in it…currently tested in Argentina. What if you could pretend it is the 1980’s again? Given your choices, why not…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    When the Washington Post was pointing out the lackluster offensive that the russian military had displayed in the past, you paid it no attention. Now that there's a stalemate going on, Kyiv is supposed to panic and declare that they've been defeated? I'd suggest that you delay your celebrations and ceremonies, there's a lot of war still ahead (unfortunately):

    https://youtu.be/zKB3MdK_0Os
    Update from Ukraine | Crazy Stupid Ruzzian Attack attempt | They never learn | They will Lose 12/15/23

  227. @QCIC
    @S

    Definitely predictive programming.

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren't violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war. All of this churning in the media is to justify more surveillance and forced compliance. Probably also to expand gun control.

    What I can see occurring is the government's intentionally created chaos has unintended consequences. Something like the Hispanics (mostly illegal and first two generations) go toe to toe with the blacks (African Americans), vying for primacy. Instead of trying to prevent or control this fracas, normal American institutions and citizens stand back and watch and protect themselves. The two competing subgroups in the USA greatly diminish in size and more importantly clearly display their general lack of compatibility with civilization in North America. During the clean up of this mess the woke and PC ideological influences are exposed and dissipated. The elite groups and deep state which intentionally drove the USA to this chaos are held accountable.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @S

    Definitely predictive programming.

    Yes, I see the movie as being some rather blunt ‘predictive programming’

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren’t violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war.

    Here we’ll probably have to agree to disagree.

    I think the United States (not to mention the whole of the Anglosphere) may well experience what Russia experienced 1917-22 as described in the linked below book Imperial Apocalypse, ie defeat in a world war, Communist Revolution, a ‘civil war’ featuring roving ethnic/political armies led by warlords and characterized by mass executions, a pandemic, and economic collapse, all near simultaneously.

    https://academic.oup.com/book/12205?login=false

    I say this with the caveat that I think the US may experience something worse than what Russia did then as Russia did not have 40 million weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding ‘reparations’, and did not have the high number of personal firearms with their associated mountains of ammo.

    I’d much prefer your more sanguine vision of things be the correct one, however. 🙂

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @S

    The system seems to be very fragile in many ways, so it is easy to be pessimistic.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    If whites with assault rifles and blacks with 9mm pistols start shooting at each other what do you imagine would be the probable outcome?

    The last time I was at a gun range in CA almost all the guys who were practicing were Chinese. (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @S

    , @sudden death
    @S


    weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding ‘reparations’
     
    Reminder that Putin secret service operatives were also outright inciting/amplifying and paying for organizing all this “gimme black slavery/genocide reparations” stuff in US long before 2022 invasion in UA happened:

    https://i.imgur.com/4O266Q1.jpeg

    https://i.imgur.com/oijntnQ.png

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22123394/ionov-indictment.pdf

    Replies: @S

  228. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    Something like the Hispanics (mostly illegal and first two generations) go toe to toe with the blacks (African Americans), vying for primacy.
     
    What exact signs do you see within the American Hispanic community that leads you to believe that they're motivated to go to war with the American Black community? Even show any disillusionment or "general lack of compatibility with civilization in North America" as you put it? Where I live in the Southwest, where there's an ocean of Hispanics (Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans) there seems to be just the opposite social forces on display. These folks are eager to assimilate into the larger American mosaic and are too busy to resort to much violence. Not even any serious gang violence in Phoenix to be seen, even on the local evening news?

    "Blacks"? Well, there aren't nearly as many in Arizona as there are Hispanics, but they did make some noise during the BLM Floyd general time frame. The local police department got into huge trouble when it became clear that they had acted on concocted charges and perhaps had planted some of their own to help incite some violence and to make it look like a nefarious black gang was involved in instigating violent protests. No black gang was ever found to even exist.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I was describing a possible future, not an observation.

    As the Hispanic population increases disproportionately in many areas I expect the standard of living to go down due to IQ and cultural differences from the Anglo groups which created the society in the area. In many places this may put Hispanics in conflict with the low income, high crime black subculture. I believe both races have substantial violent criminal gang aspects. The criminality of the Mexican drug cartels seems to be off the charts.

    I agree with Fred Reed’s observation that the Mayans and other pre-Columbian native groups had a smart fraction of people who accomplished amazing things. On the other hand, I suspect that without continuous interaction with a dominant European culture their countries end up at a third world level. These people come from an interesting mixture of indigenous and European colonial influences with the attendant mixture of tribal religions and strong Catholicism.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  229. @S
    @QCIC


    Definitely predictive programming.
     
    Yes, I see the movie as being some rather blunt 'predictive programming'

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren’t violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war.
     
    Here we'll probably have to agree to disagree.

    I think the United States (not to mention the whole of the Anglosphere) may well experience what Russia experienced 1917-22 as described in the linked below book Imperial Apocalypse, ie defeat in a world war, Communist Revolution, a 'civil war' featuring roving ethnic/political armies led by warlords and characterized by mass executions, a pandemic, and economic collapse, all near simultaneously.

    https://academic.oup.com/book/12205?login=false

    I say this with the caveat that I think the US may experience something worse than what Russia did then as Russia did not have 40 million weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding 'reparations', and did not have the high number of personal firearms with their associated mountains of ammo.

    I'd much prefer your more sanguine vision of things be the correct one, however. :-)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    The system seems to be very fragile in many ways, so it is easy to be pessimistic.

  230. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack


    Did I miss anything important?
     
    Yeah, Kiev is losing. Does that matter to you? WashPost is laying out the consequences, they have been shaken up by the reality and given green light to say the obvious.

    You like to bury your head in the sand to hide in clownish nonsense. In your defense, most of Arizona is covered by dirty sand, that's what you are used to...and to endless taco trucks signaling the arrival of golden age for American civilization. You will need a mad libertarian like Javier Milei to put a fork in it...currently tested in Argentina. What if you could pretend it is the 1980's again? Given your choices, why not...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    When the Washington Post was pointing out the lackluster offensive that the russian military had displayed in the past, you paid it no attention. Now that there’s a stalemate going on, Kyiv is supposed to panic and declare that they’ve been defeated? I’d suggest that you delay your celebrations and ceremonies, there’s a lot of war still ahead (unfortunately):

    Update from Ukraine | Crazy Stupid Ruzzian Attack attempt | They never learn | They will Lose 12/15/23

  231. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow


    the oligarchs (or “capitalists”?) were very scared.
     
    They were surrounded by millions of experienced soldiers who were suddenly civilians. There was incentive to occupy these fellows working for money!

    Replies: @Mikel

    Inflation is always hard on the poor and people in the late forties-early fifties were much poorer in the US and Western Europe than today. It must have hit them harder. On the other hand, people today are not as used to hardship as they were then so Beckow’s idea that we would have a social explosion if we started having high levels of inflation has some merit but I don’t think it would happen. In the past couple of years we’ve had levels of inflation comparable to the late 40s and people have gotten used to it quite well. The fact that we’ve grown less accustomed to hardship than previous generations also means that we are quite docile.

    The best scenario for the current insane levels of debt is long years of inflation diluting it. But we’ll have to stop adding to that debt at some point too. Supplemental bills of any kind don’t help.

    Milei’s reforms in Argentina may have some effect on all this. There are people in the Republican Party receptive to the economic ideas he’s championing but I’m not sure how important Argentina is these days for 1st World countries to start emulating it, no matter how effective his policies happen to be. Argentina’s economy is in such a bad shape and so entangled in an interventionist nightmare at all levels that it will be many years before it can become a free market, fiscal responsibility success story, if it ever gets there. Besides, the first measures Milei has adopted point to a much more pragmatic approach that what he campaigned for.

    Perhaps this is why Ron Paul and other libertarians seem to be ignoring Milei. I was pretty sure he would post a column about his victory in Argentina but I haven’t seen any. His chances of success, given the situation he inherits and his personality, are small so why associate the libertarian brand to such a figure?

  232. @S
    @QCIC


    Definitely predictive programming.
     
    Yes, I see the movie as being some rather blunt 'predictive programming'

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren’t violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war.
     
    Here we'll probably have to agree to disagree.

    I think the United States (not to mention the whole of the Anglosphere) may well experience what Russia experienced 1917-22 as described in the linked below book Imperial Apocalypse, ie defeat in a world war, Communist Revolution, a 'civil war' featuring roving ethnic/political armies led by warlords and characterized by mass executions, a pandemic, and economic collapse, all near simultaneously.

    https://academic.oup.com/book/12205?login=false

    I say this with the caveat that I think the US may experience something worse than what Russia did then as Russia did not have 40 million weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding 'reparations', and did not have the high number of personal firearms with their associated mountains of ammo.

    I'd much prefer your more sanguine vision of things be the correct one, however. :-)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    If whites with assault rifles and blacks with 9mm pistols start shooting at each other what do you imagine would be the probable outcome?

    The last time I was at a gun range in CA almost all the guys who were practicing were Chinese. (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)
     
    I was surprised to learn recently that, long ago, Jackie Chan had plastic surgery done to his eyes.

    IIRC, Chinese people always thought he looked a little off. As a boy, they called him "Big Nose" and hinted that he might not really be full Chinese.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Refer to Sailer's Law.

    , @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    If whites with assault rifles and blacks with 9mm pistols start shooting at each other what do you imagine would be the probable outcome?
     
    LOL! I've read Sailer's theorem. One on one, it wouldn't be much of a match. But in a Russian Civil War scenario in the United States, it wouldn't be one on one, but the Blacks would be operating under the protection of the now 'woke' US military.

    The George Floyd riots were a dress rehearsal for the Communist revolution to come. Except next time when the Blacks with their Antifa masters come marching into suburban neighborhoods, they will do so armed and shooting, ostensibly to take possession of their 'reparations'. And should anyone have the temerity to resist with assault rifles, the Blacks/Antifa will be able to call up the US Air Force, or, US Army artillery to take care of such persons.

    As poorly performing no doubt as a woke operated Abrams tank or F-16 would likely. be, they would still beat superbly operated assault rifles.



    Remember, during the George Floyd riots, high level officers were letting it be known beforehand they would not act against the Antifa arsonists/terrorists and Black looters even if Trump gave them direct orders to do so. Nothing happened to these officers for their mutinous actions either.

    And after January 6, the various National Guards followed orders and did as they were told and occupied Washington DC. [This military occupation of DC and guarding of Biden's unlawful inauguration was the real 'insurrection' and seizure of power, and with Trump's blessing to boot.]

    I therefore wouldn't have any great expectations of large scale defections from the US military which has been purged since Obama's time in office, and especially since Jan 6, of it's US constitution honoring leadership and rank and file. [And who can say, in a civil war scenario the US government might just use foreign mercenaries to 'fortify' potentially reluctant US troops.]

    As for Trump himself, I think he's either controlled or compromised in some manner.

    Certainly resist in some fashion, but think outside the box if there is to be a chance of overcoming the present circumstances. As an example of 'outside of the box', though not the specifics, is in War of the Worlds where the hordes of Martian invaders with their high technology and heat rays seemed unstoppable, and swept all before them, until lowly Earth pathogens utterly destroyed them as they had no immunity.

    This was something completely unexpected. It will likely have to be something equally out of left field and unexpected to overcome the situation that we now find ourselves in.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/The_War_of_the_Worlds_by_Henrique_Alvim_Corrêa_15.jpg
  233. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    If whites with assault rifles and blacks with 9mm pistols start shooting at each other what do you imagine would be the probable outcome?

    The last time I was at a gun range in CA almost all the guys who were practicing were Chinese. (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @S

    (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)

    I was surprised to learn recently that, long ago, Jackie Chan had plastic surgery done to his eyes.

    IIRC, Chinese people always thought he looked a little off. As a boy, they called him “Big Nose” and hinted that he might not really be full Chinese.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    And now all those people who called him names will tell you he was like their best friend. People totally suck. Usually. : )

  234. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)
     
    I was surprised to learn recently that, long ago, Jackie Chan had plastic surgery done to his eyes.

    IIRC, Chinese people always thought he looked a little off. As a boy, they called him "Big Nose" and hinted that he might not really be full Chinese.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    And now all those people who called him names will tell you he was like their best friend. People totally suck. Usually. : )

    • Agree: songbird
  235. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @LatW


    I thought he was a Japanophile Chinese, not Japanese.
     
    Yeah and your one of the Russophobe Vecticībnieki. 😄

    Replies: @LatW, @Gerard1234

    Just to repeat my reply from the previous thread you may have missed :

    Yea, Riga does count very much – since Riga was mostly built by Germans and Latvians. They did not have a substantial presence compared to Latvians. Do not ever bring up Riga again in these conversations.

    Wow, I could not let this garbage written to Beckow pass.
    This is ridiculous….the first Riga architect that enters anyones head immediately is Eisenstein you idiot. Technically Jewish, but more than classifies enough to be considered a Russian architect. Then second name is Antonov – with him and Eisenstein the quality and quantity of their buildings around Riga is what makes them the primary ones anybody thinks of. Then after that its several excellent german architects, Swedes,Jews and many more Russian architects and engineers. Only AFTER that list do we get to minuscule number of Latvians “building” Riga you retarded idiot. Even then most of that small number were educated in Saint Petersburg. How can trash like you lie so much?

    Outside of Old Riga (which still has several buildings designed by Russian architects, and of course zero by Latvian ones) – what wasn’t designed by Russians …..was built ENTIRELY on RUSSIAN money, and ALL these were project managed by Russians , on orders of RUSSIANS so that these structures suit RUSSIAN tastes and interests you serial dumbfuck.

    I just can’t believe how much of a lying POS you have to be to write that nonsense to Beckow.
    The Riga Market is impossible to miss…….and entirely built by Russians. There is the Cultural Palace, I think the Latvian Central Bank building is Russian built, the massive bandstand at Mezhapark entirely Soviet/Russian project you imbecile in the architecture and the ethos of it ( travelling in Europe I haven’t seen a bandstand close to the size or style). MinNauk building is basically like one of the Seven sisters and, again, impossible to miss as the tallest building in Riga. The old stock exchange. The Ridzene hotel a typical soviet beauty ( and I think the top 3 hotels that I know of there are Russian built)

    Then of course there is the Gorky bridge (and ANY bridge over the Daugava you dipshit), and EVERY bit of big public infrastructure that exists in Riga providing the water, heat, taking the sewage away of anybody living in Riga, road – EVERYTHING is Russian made , mainly from the Soviets but plenty from Tsarist era.

    Whole neighbourhoods of the Riga conurbation built by the Soviets/Russians. Several well-known mansions from Tsarists times designed by Russians around Riga.

    Then I clearly remember visiting (as its at the most directly opposite the lovely (German) Riga Cathedral)……….the lovely Russia insurance society building which is definitely Russian-made, with joined to it the Radiodom – which I think was also built by a Russian architect. So in arguably the focal point of the city, the country – the Dom square the biggest and most relaxed square in the city, with the prestigious and beautiful German cathedral…….and directly opposite it around the square are definitely 1 , probably 2 large Russian buildings. Nowhere is there anything Latvian ( except for the retard red/brown – white flags LOL)

    Masses of Old Believers and Russian merchants found there way into Riga pre and early Tsarist era. ROC churches are a HUGE part of Riga you dickhead (certainly for the tourists). Its impossible to imagine Riga without these masterpiece churches, impossible to imagine Riga WITH “latvian” churches. There is the historic Moscow Forshstadt area ( where the MinNauk building is) and going through Riga I remember you can still see several wooden clad buildings………which means RUSSIAN (either Old Believers or Merchants) houses as the others would have the brick or stone exterior buildings. In none of this , is there such a thing as “Latvian” architecture you worthless, lying , pathetic scumbag.

    So key, historic landmarks, key and extensive infrastructure covering the public, cultural, education, finance sectors…. the entire city owing its existence to Russian people and Russian money , LMAO.

    That’s also not even taking into consideration the pre-Tsarist German and Swedish buildings destroyed during WW2 and rebuilt to a wonderful standard by the Soviets ……..or those masterful Tsarist Russian buildings that the Soviets removed, or the some of the masterful Stalinist-era buildings Khrushchev-era removed.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    As typical, your post is filled with lies and manipulations with context.


    Even then most of that small number were educated in Saint Petersburg.
     
    Various nationalities were educated in St Pete, but prior to the establishment of our own university, we received our higher education at the Tartu University - one of the oldest in the region (founded by Swedes). As to Latvian architects of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, some of them were educated in Paris or Italy (not just St Pete).

    A long list of notable buildings have been designed by ethnic Latvian architects (with the help of our own local construction company owners).

    Old Riga
     
    This is the most important area of the city, culturally speaking (but also commercially) - and it was not built by the Russian Empire at all, but over the centuries through a mix of German, Latvian and some Swedish efforts. Side note about the Baltic Germans:

    The Baltic Germans are an artificial nationality created through a colonization and assimilation process that spanned centuries and, while they retained an ethnic German core, they were not fully German. In a socially upward move, some locals (as well as some outside nationalities) blended into that nationality (which coincided with a higher social class). Yes, including Balts and Estonians.

    The well known Lieven family claims to be the descendants of the Liv tribal chieftain (Kaupo of the 13th century), hence their last name (Lieven means the Livs in German – so the origins of this family are not even Germanic but Baltic Finnic).

    was built ENTIRELY on RUSSIAN money
     
    There was no such thing as "Russian money", that was the Imperial treasury, also there was a lot of money that was generated in place and Riga had its own treasury.

    The Riga Market is impossible to miss…….and entirely built by Russians.
     
    The Riga Market has stood there since time immemorial, and was mentioned already in the 16th century. In 1922, large construction was undertaken there by an ethnic Latvian architect and the Riga City Council (also ethnic LV).

    the Latvian Central Bank building is Russian built
     
    No. The Central Bank building was designed by an ethnic Latvian architect (Augusts Reinbergs), and the Riga Bourse building - by a Baltic German.

    The Riga Castle was built during the Livonian times (13th cent, although apparently there had been a building there even before).

    Main churches - the Dome, St Pete's, all the Catholic churches downtown, the Anglican church - were all there before the Russian Empire even showed up.

    The list goes on. Of course, there was some notable presence of the Russian Empire resources there, however, take together, majority of the city is built by Germans and Latvians, as I originally stated. Through the period of its more rapid growth (late 19th cent - early 20th cent), Latvians had been fully emancipated for a long time already and owned many business enterprises, not to mention that there was a thriving professional class and a large working class Latvian population that was also literate.

    Masses of Old Believers
     
    Not masses, but the largest proportion outside Russia, yes. Old Believers have been a loyal minority for a long time now. Many of them have spoken Latvian for a long time, probably even before the 1930s (along with their old Russian dialect).

    As to Old Believer merchants, they were like fish looking for deeper waters - they were not some selfless contributors, but simply tried to found enterprises closer to Europe for transportation purposes, also because the commercial culture in the Baltics was smoother than in the Slavic parts
    of the Russian Empire.


    EVERYTHING is Russian made , mainly from the Soviets but plenty from Tsarist era.
     
    The Soviet leadership was in most cases ethnic Latvian, the construction workers, too (probably in some cases managers as well). You simply pretend they didn't exist.

    Radiodom – which I think was also built by a Russian architect.
     
    No, the architect was a Litvak (may have spoken Yiddish, and most likely spoke Latvian or Lithuanian, too, since he was from Kaunas).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Mandelstamm

    Construction was interrupted by WW1, then finished in 1926 by ethnic Latvians during the first republic.

    In the last 30 years, during the second republic, a few prominent buildings have been erected (most notably the National Library, the Castle of Light), as well as countless residential buildings (mostly Nordic and Lithuanian investment), countless renovated churches and historical landmarks (including Orthodox churches, so you might want to thank us for maintaining heritage that has connections with you).

    Replies: @LatW

    , @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    So to address your lies and misrepresentations in more detail, these were the best known architects in the late 19th - early 20th century:

    Karl Felsko (Baltic German, although last name sounds Swedish)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Felsko

    Mikhail Eisenstein - born in a Jewish merchant family in Bila Tsirkva (currently Ukraine), named Moishe Eisenstein at birth. Designed my favorite facade with women's visages:
    https://www.bruceonarthistory.com/2017/12/13/facade-10b-elizabetes-iela-riga/

    Wilhelm Bockslaff (old aristocratic Baltic German family)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Bockslaff

    Robert Pflug (Baltic German, designed the Orthodox Nativity Cathedral that you mentioned)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pflug

    Konstantīns Pēkšēns (Latvian, designed many famous Art Nouveau buildings downtown, including a residential building showcasing on the famous Alberta street, and a prominent Orthodox church)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstant%C4%ABns_P%C4%93k%C5%A1%C4%93ns

    Eižens Laube (Latvian)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ei%C5%BEens_Laube

    And there are several others (among the more prominent ones, none are ethnically Russian) who designed most of the buildings of that time. The Latvian architect who designed the Central Bank actually designed a residential building in St Petersburg.

    Many of them were trained in the Riga Polytechnical Institute, or in Berlin or in St Pete.

    Here is a more detailed write up in English, listing these and several other prominent Riga architects (as you can see, mostly Baltic German with several Latvians who were very productive) with their detailed bios, as well as the addresses of the buildings they designed, most of which are in central areas of the city).

    https://jugendstils.riga.lv/eng/JugendstilsRiga/Architects/

  236. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/15/ukrainian-soldiers-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskiy

    Now, what Ukrainian soldiers really care about is physical tiredness. There is no procedure for discharging those who went to fight at the start of the invasion, including those who volunteered. They have a duty to serve until the end of the war. Last month, some servicemen’s relatives sent an appeal to the headquarters of the supreme commander-in-chief asking for clearly defined terms of service. “The assumption that experienced soldiers after 20 months of active combat remain motivated and have the physical and psychological resources to continue military service is false,” it read.

    It’s become such a big issue that Zelenskiy has instructed the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, the general staff, and the ministry of defence to find solutions, while factions in parliament are preparing a draft law that will change the rules for mobilising and discharging soldiers.

    To wage a war of attrition, Ukraine needs more fighters, but it’s tricky to keep hundreds of thousands of troops in barracks, as they won’t have enough equipment. And Ukraine’s economy might not be able to sustain an army twice its current size.

    Only males aged 27 to 60 are currently drafted, while a recent decision to lower the age for mobilisation to 25 is yet to be implemented. Conscripts (aged 18-20) are not allowed to be sent to the battlefield. But younger men can volunteer to fight.

    The deputy commander of the squadron, who is in his mid-40s, prefers not to let the younger soldiers fight instead of him: “The newbies, especially the young ones, are the least careful. Often they do not understand what’s at stake,” he says.

    The real issue is not so much about age, but experience. They can’t afford to let the experienced fighters go.

    What I don’t understand, and this article doesn’t tell me, is why they can’t rotate troops out of the front line to rear areas, perhaps to train others and be out of combat for a month or two. Unless, as is quite possible, they just need all their experienced guys to keep the front line vaguely stable.

    And if only males 27-60 are drafted, who are these 18-20 year old conscripts?

    The Ukrainian position as expressed by Western media is “we have lost so many, how can we give up and break faith with them?”

    The Russian position, as expressed by Kremlin spokespeople, is “they subverted Minsk 2, they turned down a deal in February 2022, defeat is the only thing they’ll understand. Anything less will be a betrayal of our dead“.

    For one side, continuing to fight because of previous dead will be a Sunk Cost Fallacy. Call me a cynic, but I think the side with huge arms industries, vast energy resources, and three to four times the population is not going to lose. Boris Johnson is the Psychologically Manipulative Scammer Of Death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Fallacy_effect

    This is the sunk cost fallacy, and such behavior may be described as “throwing good money after bad”, while refusing to succumb to what may be described as “cutting one’s losses”. People can remain in failing relationships because they “have already invested too much to leave”. Other people are swayed by arguments that a war must continue because lives will have been sacrificed in vain unless victory is achieved. Individuals caught up in psychologically manipulative scams will continue investing time, money and emotional energy into the project, despite doubts or suspicions that something is not right.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @YetAnotherAnon

    After years of gradually decreasing population, especially the loss of more mobile younger people, the actual population ratio of available Russian fighters to Ukrainian fighters is possibly greater than 5:1. If you subtract the remaining Ukrainians who don't really hate Russia the ratio is even more lopsided.

    This may suggest the actual Russian strategy: they may expect to cull hostile Ukrainian fighters until the ratio is 10:1, at which point Russia can reliably police the region and return it to the fold.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  237. @AP
    @Beckow


    …he got another $200 million worth of weapons and ammo which will be enough to tide Ukraine over until January

    Maybe till New Year if the war takes a break over Christmas
     
    He got $175 million a few weeks ago.

    There is $4.4 billion left that can still be given but has not been distributed yet.

    It is not sustainable. US has spent $110 billion so far on the Ukie aid, incl. paying salaries-pensions.
     
    Of course it has not spent $110 billion.

    A lot of that amount is the inflated value of the equipment that Ukraine is getting, like those missiles that are at or near their expiration date, which would have to be safely destroyed at considerable cost to US taxpayers if they weren't sent to Ukraine to be fired at Russian invaders. The vehicles and other equipment is valued at their price when they were new, and not at what they are currently worth. And regardless the value, it isn't cash being sent.

    A lot of that amount is the cost of ammo being made at US factories. This is good for American workers in the heartland, and good for the US defense industry. It, too, isn't cash being sent to Ukraine.

    And here the total that Ukraine has gotten in equipment + cash has been $75 billion:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/us/politics/ukraine-us-military-aid.html#:~:text=Since%20Russia's%20February%202022%20invasion,and%20addressing%20its%20humanitarian%20needs.

    Since Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the Biden administration has sent more than $75 billion in cash and equipment to the country for its defense. Most of the aid has gone to Ukraine’s military operations, keeping its government running and addressing its humanitarian needs.

    Looks like the cash amount has been $26.4 billion.

    A little bit more than 10 Las Vegas spheres.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38U2q96OTg

    Or ten miles of New York subway:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-23/in-nyc-subway-a-case-study-in-runaway-transit-construction-costs

    Not much, all things considered, for wrecking much of Russia's military.

    What a f..ing waste, this will be studied for decades for the cosmic level stupidity.
     
    Russia did indeed do a stupid thing, for which both Russia and Ukraine are paying a steep price.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Derer

    Russia did indeed do a stupid thing, for which both Russia and Ukraine are paying a steep price.

    How could milking the Washington and Brussels simpleminded players at 33 trillion debt be stupid from Russian point of view. Actually this is the main reason for Putin policy to “go slow”. Some dense people will never understand that Russia have capability to overrun Ukraine in one month.

    It appears that waiting for the removal of Kiev leadership from within and causing economic stress for the adversaries is paying off. Ask the German people or American if they are better off at $6.00 bread price.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Derer


    Some dense people will never understand that Russia have capability to overrun Ukraine in one month.
     
    Sure, Russia just volunteered to lose 100k dead over 2 years, for fun.

    Ask the German people or American if they are better off at $6.00 bread price.
     
    LOL is that what they believe wherever you are?

    In Germany's large grocery chain, 1 kg bread: 4 Euros or $4.34

    https://e-center-knauer.edeka-shops.de/en/all-products/bread-pastries/bread/toast-white-bread/lieken-urkorn-fit-vital-weizen-500g-zid4009249002277

    In the USA it's about $3.00:

    https://stopandshop.com/product/stop-shop-big-daisy-white-bread-20-oz-pkg/56239

    In one of the Moscow grocery stores near one of my wife's flats, one of the cheaper breads is about $3.00 for a kilogram:

    https://av.ru/i/468307/

    https://av.ru/search/?text=%D1%85%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B1

    Same as America.

    Now compare incomes of Moscow to America or Germany.

    Replies: @Beckow

  238. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    If whites with assault rifles and blacks with 9mm pistols start shooting at each other what do you imagine would be the probable outcome?

    The last time I was at a gun range in CA almost all the guys who were practicing were Chinese. (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @S

    Refer to Sailer’s Law.

  239. @YetAnotherAnon
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/15/ukrainian-soldiers-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskiy

    Now, what Ukrainian soldiers really care about is physical tiredness. There is no procedure for discharging those who went to fight at the start of the invasion, including those who volunteered. They have a duty to serve until the end of the war. Last month, some servicemen’s relatives sent an appeal to the headquarters of the supreme commander-in-chief asking for clearly defined terms of service. “The assumption that experienced soldiers after 20 months of active combat remain motivated and have the physical and psychological resources to continue military service is false,” it read.

    It’s become such a big issue that Zelenskiy has instructed the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, the general staff, and the ministry of defence to find solutions, while factions in parliament are preparing a draft law that will change the rules for mobilising and discharging soldiers.

    To wage a war of attrition, Ukraine needs more fighters, but it’s tricky to keep hundreds of thousands of troops in barracks, as they won’t have enough equipment. And Ukraine’s economy might not be able to sustain an army twice its current size.

    Only males aged 27 to 60 are currently drafted, while a recent decision to lower the age for mobilisation to 25 is yet to be implemented. Conscripts (aged 18-20) are not allowed to be sent to the battlefield. But younger men can volunteer to fight.

    The deputy commander of the squadron, who is in his mid-40s, prefers not to let the younger soldiers fight instead of him: “The newbies, especially the young ones, are the least careful. Often they do not understand what’s at stake,” he says.

    The real issue is not so much about age, but experience. They can’t afford to let the experienced fighters go.
     
    What I don't understand, and this article doesn't tell me, is why they can't rotate troops out of the front line to rear areas, perhaps to train others and be out of combat for a month or two. Unless, as is quite possible, they just need all their experienced guys to keep the front line vaguely stable.

    And if only males 27-60 are drafted, who are these 18-20 year old conscripts?

    The Ukrainian position as expressed by Western media is "we have lost so many, how can we give up and break faith with them?"

    The Russian position, as expressed by Kremlin spokespeople, is "they subverted Minsk 2, they turned down a deal in February 2022, defeat is the only thing they'll understand. Anything less will be a betrayal of our dead".

    For one side, continuing to fight because of previous dead will be a Sunk Cost Fallacy. Call me a cynic, but I think the side with huge arms industries, vast energy resources, and three to four times the population is not going to lose. Boris Johnson is the Psychologically Manipulative Scammer Of Death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Fallacy_effect

    This is the sunk cost fallacy, and such behavior may be described as "throwing good money after bad", while refusing to succumb to what may be described as "cutting one's losses". People can remain in failing relationships because they "have already invested too much to leave". Other people are swayed by arguments that a war must continue because lives will have been sacrificed in vain unless victory is achieved. Individuals caught up in psychologically manipulative scams will continue investing time, money and emotional energy into the project, despite doubts or suspicions that something is not right.
     

    Replies: @QCIC

    After years of gradually decreasing population, especially the loss of more mobile younger people, the actual population ratio of available Russian fighters to Ukrainian fighters is possibly greater than 5:1. If you subtract the remaining Ukrainians who don’t really hate Russia the ratio is even more lopsided.

    This may suggest the actual Russian strategy: they may expect to cull hostile Ukrainian fighters until the ratio is 10:1, at which point Russia can reliably police the region and return it to the fold.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    reliably police the region and return it to the fold
     
    These are two different things. The great majority of RF citizens are vehemently opposed to absorbing Ukraine, which they see as an inferior region populated by people with the mentality of thieves and panhandlers. Remember, Putin is a “dictator”, and therefore, in sharp contrast to “democratic” rulers, cares about the opinions of the people he rules.

    Most likely scenario is that he takes what he considers necessary (e.g., the whole Black sea coast) or inevitable (Russian-speaking East), and creates a puppet state in the remaining rump “Ukraine” (mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat). Policing will be important, returning to the fold won’t.

    Replies: @LatW

  240. @ShortOnTime
    @Gerard1234

    I'm afraid that I have to correct you here.

    Poles in WW2 resisted Nazi Germany a lot more than they collaborated, at least as much as was possible for a conquered and defeated nation. Armia Krajowa/Home Army and the Polish Communist acts of resistance were real. The August-October 1944 Warsaw Uprising was very real (not to be confused with the Jewish ghetto one).

    There was less enthusiasm for Nazi Germany in Poland than Napoleon in 19th century.

    Anyway, what's more interesting is what really happened with the 2010 Smolensk plane crash of high level Polish visitors to Russia. Just an accident or something else? After all, Poland-Russia reconciliation efforts have been completely dead since then, perhaps on purpose ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk_air_disaster

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Anyway, what’s more interesting is what really happened with the 2010 Smolensk plane crash of high level Polish visitors to Russia.

    New Polish government just admitted that their second commission falsified the results of the expertise to propose two mutually contradictory versions: 1) Russians shot that plane down; 2) the bomb exploded on that plane. The original explanation, that the plane was approaching the airfield too low in foggy conditions, which Russians endorsed, remains.

    This does not mean any impending rapprochement between Poland and the RF. Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.

    • Thanks: ShortOnTime
    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.
     
    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

    Replies: @Cesar1191, @Mr. XYZ

    , @ShortOnTime
    @AnonfromTN

    Thanks for explaining some of the details of that murky plane crash.

    Otherwise, Poland-Russia enmity seems simply irreconcilable like so many other conflicts in the world. Especially with Ukraine currently, it's a real tragedy since everyone's positions have hardened too deeply for any happy endings (It looks like that for as long as Ukraine exists Russia won't have solved the problem of the unforgiving Ukrainian nationalism aimed against it).

    Replies: @QCIC

  241. @QCIC
    @YetAnotherAnon

    After years of gradually decreasing population, especially the loss of more mobile younger people, the actual population ratio of available Russian fighters to Ukrainian fighters is possibly greater than 5:1. If you subtract the remaining Ukrainians who don't really hate Russia the ratio is even more lopsided.

    This may suggest the actual Russian strategy: they may expect to cull hostile Ukrainian fighters until the ratio is 10:1, at which point Russia can reliably police the region and return it to the fold.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    reliably police the region and return it to the fold

    These are two different things. The great majority of RF citizens are vehemently opposed to absorbing Ukraine, which they see as an inferior region populated by people with the mentality of thieves and panhandlers. Remember, Putin is a “dictator”, and therefore, in sharp contrast to “democratic” rulers, cares about the opinions of the people he rules.

    Most likely scenario is that he takes what he considers necessary (e.g., the whole Black sea coast) or inevitable (Russian-speaking East), and creates a puppet state in the remaining rump “Ukraine” (mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat). Policing will be important, returning to the fold won’t.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @AnonfromTN


    Most likely scenario is that he takes what he considers necessary (e.g., the whole Black sea coast) or inevitable (Russian-speaking East), and creates a puppet state in the remaining rump “Ukraine” (mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat). Policing will be important, returning to the fold won’t.
     
    Very ambitious.

    mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat
     
    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs (probably more).

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

  242. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    reliably police the region and return it to the fold
     
    These are two different things. The great majority of RF citizens are vehemently opposed to absorbing Ukraine, which they see as an inferior region populated by people with the mentality of thieves and panhandlers. Remember, Putin is a “dictator”, and therefore, in sharp contrast to “democratic” rulers, cares about the opinions of the people he rules.

    Most likely scenario is that he takes what he considers necessary (e.g., the whole Black sea coast) or inevitable (Russian-speaking East), and creates a puppet state in the remaining rump “Ukraine” (mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat). Policing will be important, returning to the fold won’t.

    Replies: @LatW

    Most likely scenario is that he takes what he considers necessary (e.g., the whole Black sea coast) or inevitable (Russian-speaking East), and creates a puppet state in the remaining rump “Ukraine” (mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat). Policing will be important, returning to the fold won’t.

    Very ambitious.

    mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat

    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs (probably more).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs (probably more).
     
    Good for Poland...they have imported a minority that may have some demands in the future. What does that do for the Nato plan to move to Ukraine? Or for Ukraine?

    How many able bodied Slavs are there in Riga? Half a million? Why don't you celebrate it? Instead you engage in your atavistic fascism, foaming at the mouth while seeking "revenge", and lying about Riga's past - see Gerard above, you got caught prevaricating like with your denial of the Latvian WW2 Nazi SS Division...you guys have no class.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs
     
    I applaud Western self-deception, parroted by the people afflicted by inferiority complex in the Baltic statelets. The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work. Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war. That scum behaves accordingly, which European residents feel and complain about, but the compradore European governments pretend not to notice.

    Decent residents of Ukraine willing to work do two things: stay put or move to Russia. As of today, there are more than 5 million Ukrainian refugees in Russia, where they get some assistance at the beginning, but then are expected to earn their keep. Maybe a few thousands of these are Ukrainian terrorists. FSB is dealing with those. The rest are normal decent people, a real human asset.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP, @LatW

  243. @Mikel
    @AP


    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    No, it’s not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?
     
    I have already explained why all supplemental appropriations bills add to the existing deficit and are therefore paid by taxpayers. That is in fact a good part of the reason why the fiscal conservative side of the GOP opposes this bill.

    Just because you refuse to accept the obvious I'm not going to repeat myself like a parrot. Anyone else here apart from you who disagrees is welcome to challenge my point but otherwise the matter is more than settled.

    Debating your ideas about an invasion of space aliens being good for the economy (which is what you are arguing, whether you know it or not) is also a very poor use of my time. Economic theory is not this blog's forte. And we all know that you don't support the Ukraine aid bill because of how good it is for the economy anyway :-)


    You obviously and for very good reason don’t have a problem with government spending program to secure the border.
     
    Not really. What I support is walling and fencing the border as required to stem illegal immigration (which is not at all what Biden is requesting funds for). And I do that precisely because, once the project was complete, it would save lots of taxpayers dollars in al sorts of costs directly associated to the illegal invasion and it would save us even more in the long term in many other types of costs. MAGA is an improvement over the Tea Party movement but there is plenty of common ground between both.

    Replies: @AP

    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    No, it’s not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?

    I have already explained why all supplemental appropriations bills add to the existing deficit and are therefore paid by taxpayers.

    And I explained that the part of the bill involving weapons acquisition by Ukraine costs America nothing or almost nothing (it costs transportation minus the savings for America not having to decommission and dispose of them) because the weapons that Ukraine is getting are mostly those that were made and purchased decades ago. It is accounted for by replacement cost. Which means that the USA spends that money on itself by replacing old and obsolete weapons sent to Ukraine, with new ones.

    You conveniently ignored that explanation. Why?

    (at least you did not attempt to “win” the argument by lying this time. Credit where credit is due).

    Debating your ideas about an invasion of space aliens being good for the economy (which is what you are arguing, whether you know it or not)

    You should just be open in stating that you want America to be demilitarized to some extent, and oppose increasing the capacity of America’s defense industries and improving and modernizing America’s military.

    And we all know that you don’t support the Ukraine aid bill because of how good it is for the economy anyway

    Things can be good for both.

    The Ukraine aid bill helps Ukraine fight off its invader, punishes a country for invading another country, while also contributing to the modernization of America’s military, the revival of its military industry, and helping the economy of the communities in America’s heartland that are supported by the military industries. Lots of wins.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    at least you did not attempt to “win” the argument by lying this time. Credit where credit is due
     
    Thanks. I'd love to return the favor and say that you're not being a moron this time but then I would be lying indeed and I don't do that.

    While we all understand why you do it, using moronic arguments to try to convince people that spending so many billions on Ukraine is actually good for the US economy is a futile exercise. Nobody buys it and it ends up being counterproductive for the Ukrainian cause. The Dems have been using lots of arguments in favor of the aid but that's not one of them.

    Replies: @AP

  244. @AnonfromTN
    @ShortOnTime


    Anyway, what’s more interesting is what really happened with the 2010 Smolensk plane crash of high level Polish visitors to Russia.
     
    New Polish government just admitted that their second commission falsified the results of the expertise to propose two mutually contradictory versions: 1) Russians shot that plane down; 2) the bomb exploded on that plane. The original explanation, that the plane was approaching the airfield too low in foggy conditions, which Russians endorsed, remains.

    This does not mean any impending rapprochement between Poland and the RF. Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.

    Replies: @AP, @ShortOnTime

    Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.

    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Cesar1191
    @AP


    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

     

    Imagine thinking that the Russians are successful compared to the Poles. lol. By what metric could this possibly be true? It is certainly not true for GDP per capita, life expectancy, industrial production per capita, science production per capita, AIDS prevalence, etc.

    It seems more reasonable to me to assume that anti-Russian sentiment in Poland is due to anger/resentment about Russian imperialism, and more importantly, about continued Russian imperialism and the continued threat that the country poses to its neighbors. Poland and Russia relations were much better in the 90s and 2000s. The Poles never forgot that Russia was a potential threat, but for a while they were willing to entertain the idea that Russia could be a normal European country.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    I think that a part of this might be envy towards the West: Towards the West's success, towards the West's power, and towards the West's influence, all of which Russia could not realistically hope to match right now. Russia lost its golden moment during the 20th century as a result of Communism. Lenin really did deserve to get a bullet put into his head sometime before early 1917. Killing both Trotsky and Stalin as well would have, of course, really helped as well.

  245. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    If whites with assault rifles and blacks with 9mm pistols start shooting at each other what do you imagine would be the probable outcome?

    The last time I was at a gun range in CA almost all the guys who were practicing were Chinese. (or Japanese or Korean same dif to round eyes.)

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC, @S

    If whites with assault rifles and blacks with 9mm pistols start shooting at each other what do you imagine would be the probable outcome?

    LOL! I’ve read Sailer’s theorem. One on one, it wouldn’t be much of a match. But in a Russian Civil War scenario in the United States, it wouldn’t be one on one, but the Blacks would be operating under the protection of the now ‘woke’ US military.

    The George Floyd riots were a dress rehearsal for the Communist revolution to come. Except next time when the Blacks with their Antifa masters come marching into suburban neighborhoods, they will do so armed and shooting, ostensibly to take possession of their ‘reparations’. And should anyone have the temerity to resist with assault rifles, the Blacks/Antifa will be able to call up the US Air Force, or, US Army artillery to take care of such persons.

    As poorly performing no doubt as a woke operated Abrams tank or F-16 would likely. be, they would still beat superbly operated assault rifles.

    [MORE]

    Remember, during the George Floyd riots, high level officers were letting it be known beforehand they would not act against the Antifa arsonists/terrorists and Black looters even if Trump gave them direct orders to do so. Nothing happened to these officers for their mutinous actions either.

    And after January 6, the various National Guards followed orders and did as they were told and occupied Washington DC. [This military occupation of DC and guarding of Biden’s unlawful inauguration was the real ‘insurrection’ and seizure of power, and with Trump’s blessing to boot.]

    I therefore wouldn’t have any great expectations of large scale defections from the US military which has been purged since Obama’s time in office, and especially since Jan 6, of it’s US constitution honoring leadership and rank and file. [And who can say, in a civil war scenario the US government might just use foreign mercenaries to ‘fortify’ potentially reluctant US troops.]

    As for Trump himself, I think he’s either controlled or compromised in some manner.

    Certainly resist in some fashion, but think outside the box if there is to be a chance of overcoming the present circumstances. As an example of ‘outside of the box’, though not the specifics, is in War of the Worlds where the hordes of Martian invaders with their high technology and heat rays seemed unstoppable, and swept all before them, until lowly Earth pathogens utterly destroyed them as they had no immunity.

    This was something completely unexpected. It will likely have to be something equally out of left field and unexpected to overcome the situation that we now find ourselves in.

  246. @Derer
    @AP


    Russia did indeed do a stupid thing, for which both Russia and Ukraine are paying a steep price.
     
    How could milking the Washington and Brussels simpleminded players at 33 trillion debt be stupid from Russian point of view. Actually this is the main reason for Putin policy to "go slow". Some dense people will never understand that Russia have capability to overrun Ukraine in one month.

    It appears that waiting for the removal of Kiev leadership from within and causing economic stress for the adversaries is paying off. Ask the German people or American if they are better off at $6.00 bread price.

    Replies: @AP

    Some dense people will never understand that Russia have capability to overrun Ukraine in one month.

    Sure, Russia just volunteered to lose 100k dead over 2 years, for fun.

    Ask the German people or American if they are better off at $6.00 bread price.

    LOL is that what they believe wherever you are?

    In Germany’s large grocery chain, 1 kg bread: 4 Euros or $4.34

    https://e-center-knauer.edeka-shops.de/en/all-products/bread-pastries/bread/toast-white-bread/lieken-urkorn-fit-vital-weizen-500g-zid4009249002277

    In the USA it’s about $3.00:

    https://stopandshop.com/product/stop-shop-big-daisy-white-bread-20-oz-pkg/56239

    In one of the Moscow grocery stores near one of my wife’s flats, one of the cheaper breads is about $3.00 for a kilogram:

    https://av.ru/i/468307/

    https://av.ru/search/?text=%D1%85%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B1

    Same as America.

    Now compare incomes of Moscow to America or Germany.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    You call that piece of plasticky white foam bread? Wow, they should be giving it away for free - it is toxic. But ok, that's all you have in your world - I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted - quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    The problem is that you are comparing different worlds: some people live normal lives with normal food, and some sit in their cars for 45 minutes to go to WalMart to buy manufactured garbage food. Enjoy. As I said before, to each his own...but you seem quite insecure about that great life you supposedly have.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

  247. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN


    Most likely scenario is that he takes what he considers necessary (e.g., the whole Black sea coast) or inevitable (Russian-speaking East), and creates a puppet state in the remaining rump “Ukraine” (mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat). Policing will be important, returning to the fold won’t.
     
    Very ambitious.

    mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat
     
    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs (probably more).

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    …Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs (probably more).

    Good for Poland…they have imported a minority that may have some demands in the future. What does that do for the Nato plan to move to Ukraine? Or for Ukraine?

    How many able bodied Slavs are there in Riga? Half a million? Why don’t you celebrate it? Instead you engage in your atavistic fascism, foaming at the mouth while seeking “revenge”, and lying about Riga’s past – see Gerard above, you got caught prevaricating like with your denial of the Latvian WW2 Nazi SS Division…you guys have no class.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    with your denial of the Latvian WW2 Nazi SS Division
     
    SS was German built, that's like saying "Polish concentration camps". It's a German brand, so wouldn't want to appropriate. :)

    How many able bodied Slavs are there in Riga? Half a million?
     
    Assimilating slowly and enjoying life. The numbers changed a while back and are not what you assume. Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.

    Why don’t you celebrate it?
     
    It's not in our customs to "celebrate diversity" and such. We just stop by for friendly banter sometimes.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Beckow

  248. So the Houthis are the only one’s in the middle-east beside Hezbollah and Hamas to take on the real enemies of the Arab world, the sycophantic Arab puppet states that allow U.S and Israel to rule the area.

    The Houthis have done more to disrupt the U.S and Israel than all the so-called powerful Arab states combined, now the U.S is looking for a coalition of the willing to send their precious navy to patrol the area.

    How many will do that when the Houthis flood the straits with shipping mines?

    The Houthis can choke shipping in the Area and make the dogs like Egypt pay. Egypt take Israeli stolen gas then look the other way as Palistinians are murdered.

    The Houthis have realized they have immense power and are the new leadership of the Arab world.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr_Chow_Mein

    The Yemen tribes are a wild bunch. In Dorrill's MI6 book he said that only one MI6 officer in the history of the branch at that time had been killed in the line of duty. It was in Yemen in 1963 or so. They cut off the guy's head and paraded it on a stick.

    Replies: @S

    , @ShortOnTime
    @Mr_Chow_Mein

    Don't get your hopes up.

    The Houthis/Ansarullah can't do much more than launch a few missiles at Israel and disrupt some world trade off the coast of Yemen by targeting trade ships. As the attempted Arab oil embargo of the 1970's shows, disrupting the USA's economy to try to stop American armament of Israel and attempting to reverse Israel's battlefield victories doesn't really work.

    It of course may be too premature to predict absolutely everything about the war and the ensuing political arrangements, but the fall of North Gaza to Israel looks like it's only a matter of time. Somewhere from several more weeks to a few months, and it seems almost certain to be an established fact.

    The only weak point Israel and Jews seem to have is that they value their own lives so highly (and view those of non-Jewish goyim so lowly) that they don't have the capacity to endure very high casualties (more than a few thousand dead say, which is hard to see how Hamas, PIJ and Hezbollah can cause).

    The 2 real problems anyone opposed to Israel has yet to address is how can the IDF's many military advantages in Gaza be undone (who exactly is able and willing to intervene with a ground army against the IDF in Gaza?) and that of AIPAC's chokehold on American politics (and Jewish power in the USA more generally). The 2 are connected actually, as although Israel has its own sovereign military-industrial complex with its own heavy weapons systems, the supply of ammunition and munitions for Israel's heavy weaponry almost entirely comes from American stocks.

    This is why I'm getting tired of seeing all these types thinking they can achieve much by "speaking truth to power" against Jews and that Israel's demise is only a matter of being a few moments away, and all that. The proliferation of the imagery of wounded and dead civilians (especially babies and children) from Gaza may be even worse as it doesn't do anything beyond making Israel look terrible and distressing anyone that doesn't have the stomach and hardened heart to endure such scenes without breaking down.

  249. @AP
    @Derer


    Some dense people will never understand that Russia have capability to overrun Ukraine in one month.
     
    Sure, Russia just volunteered to lose 100k dead over 2 years, for fun.

    Ask the German people or American if they are better off at $6.00 bread price.
     
    LOL is that what they believe wherever you are?

    In Germany's large grocery chain, 1 kg bread: 4 Euros or $4.34

    https://e-center-knauer.edeka-shops.de/en/all-products/bread-pastries/bread/toast-white-bread/lieken-urkorn-fit-vital-weizen-500g-zid4009249002277

    In the USA it's about $3.00:

    https://stopandshop.com/product/stop-shop-big-daisy-white-bread-20-oz-pkg/56239

    In one of the Moscow grocery stores near one of my wife's flats, one of the cheaper breads is about $3.00 for a kilogram:

    https://av.ru/i/468307/

    https://av.ru/search/?text=%D1%85%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B1

    Same as America.

    Now compare incomes of Moscow to America or Germany.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You call that piece of plasticky white foam bread? Wow, they should be giving it away for free – it is toxic. But ok, that’s all you have in your world – I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted – quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    The problem is that you are comparing different worlds: some people live normal lives with normal food, and some sit in their cars for 45 minutes to go to WalMart to buy manufactured garbage food. Enjoy. As I said before, to each his own…but you seem quite insecure about that great life you supposedly have.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow

    The guy making a bitter two paragraph diatribe in response to my comparisons of cheap breads in each country says someone else is insecure :-)

    In America one choose what one wants. I mostly buy bread at the bakery in Wholefoods where it costs $5.00 for a loaf (not sure how much per kg). It is good. Sometime I go to a Polish store where they also have good bread, cheaper. I have never bought the $3.00 per kg American bread, perhaps since when I was a poor student 30+ years ago.

    I visit Montreal a few times a year. The bakeries there are equal to the best anywhere else. A loaf of bread in one of them is only $3.00 Canadian.

    You like to write about Wal Mart. It must have really touched your soul. I don’t believe that you only went there twice.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted – quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    Walmart carries Dave's bread and the ingredients are listed.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dave-s-Killer-Bread-21-Whole-Grains-and-Seeds-Organic-Bread-Loaf-27-oz/49342184?athbdg=L1600&from=/search

    You can even call the company and ask about the bread.
    https://www.daveskillerbread.com/

    Tell us exactly how it isn't real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.

    When did you last visit Walmart? 1995?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel

  250. @S
    @QCIC


    Definitely predictive programming.
     
    Yes, I see the movie as being some rather blunt 'predictive programming'

    Modern fat, dumb and happy (drugged) Americans aren’t violent enough for a civil war. Civilizational collapse maybe, but not a war.
     
    Here we'll probably have to agree to disagree.

    I think the United States (not to mention the whole of the Anglosphere) may well experience what Russia experienced 1917-22 as described in the linked below book Imperial Apocalypse, ie defeat in a world war, Communist Revolution, a 'civil war' featuring roving ethnic/political armies led by warlords and characterized by mass executions, a pandemic, and economic collapse, all near simultaneously.

    https://academic.oup.com/book/12205?login=false

    I say this with the caveat that I think the US may experience something worse than what Russia did then as Russia did not have 40 million weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding 'reparations', and did not have the high number of personal firearms with their associated mountains of ammo.

    I'd much prefer your more sanguine vision of things be the correct one, however. :-)

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding ‘reparations’

    Reminder that Putin secret service operatives were also outright inciting/amplifying and paying for organizing all this “gimme black slavery/genocide reparations” stuff in US long before 2022 invasion in UA happened:

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22123394/ionov-indictment.pdf

    • Replies: @S
    @sudden death


    Reminder that Putin secret service operatives were also outright inciting/amplifying and paying for organizing all this “gimme black slavery/genocide reparations” stuff in US long before 2022 invasion in UA happened:
     
    Thanks. Also reminds of Soviet defector Anatoly Golitsyn's claim that the 'liberalizing' of the Soviet Union was a deep fake, and that some day, when the time was right, Russia and China would openly join together as one clenched fist and overwhelm the United States and the West.

    https://archive.org/details/NewLiesForOld
  251. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    So the Houthis are the only one's in the middle-east beside Hezbollah and Hamas to take on the real enemies of the Arab world, the sycophantic Arab puppet states that allow U.S and Israel to rule the area.

    The Houthis have done more to disrupt the U.S and Israel than all the so-called powerful Arab states combined, now the U.S is looking for a coalition of the willing to send their precious navy to patrol the area.

    How many will do that when the Houthis flood the straits with shipping mines?

    The Houthis can choke shipping in the Area and make the dogs like Egypt pay. Egypt take Israeli stolen gas then look the other way as Palistinians are murdered.

    The Houthis have realized they have immense power and are the new leadership of the Arab world.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @ShortOnTime

    The Yemen tribes are a wild bunch. In Dorrill’s MI6 book he said that only one MI6 officer in the history of the branch at that time had been killed in the line of duty. It was in Yemen in 1963 or so. They cut off the guy’s head and paraded it on a stick.

    • Replies: @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    In Dorrill’s MI6 book he said that only one MI6 officer in the history of the branch at that time had been killed in the line of duty. It was in Yemen in 1963 or so. They cut off the guy’s head and paraded it on a stick.
     
    And, to think, that in past ages the Brits would of went to war over something like that. :-)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jenkins%27_Ear

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

  252. @AP
    @Mikel


    Of course it’s all being paid by us taxpayers.

    No, it’s not. How can that be, when it was already purchased decades ago?


    I have already explained why all supplemental appropriations bills add to the existing deficit and are therefore paid by taxpayers.
     
    And I explained that the part of the bill involving weapons acquisition by Ukraine costs America nothing or almost nothing (it costs transportation minus the savings for America not having to decommission and dispose of them) because the weapons that Ukraine is getting are mostly those that were made and purchased decades ago. It is accounted for by replacement cost. Which means that the USA spends that money on itself by replacing old and obsolete weapons sent to Ukraine, with new ones.

    You conveniently ignored that explanation. Why?

    (at least you did not attempt to "win" the argument by lying this time. Credit where credit is due).

    Debating your ideas about an invasion of space aliens being good for the economy (which is what you are arguing, whether you know it or not)
     
    You should just be open in stating that you want America to be demilitarized to some extent, and oppose increasing the capacity of America's defense industries and improving and modernizing America's military.

    And we all know that you don’t support the Ukraine aid bill because of how good it is for the economy anyway
     
    Things can be good for both.

    The Ukraine aid bill helps Ukraine fight off its invader, punishes a country for invading another country, while also contributing to the modernization of America's military, the revival of its military industry, and helping the economy of the communities in America's heartland that are supported by the military industries. Lots of wins.

    Replies: @Mikel

    at least you did not attempt to “win” the argument by lying this time. Credit where credit is due

    Thanks. I’d love to return the favor and say that you’re not being a moron this time but then I would be lying indeed and I don’t do that.

    While we all understand why you do it, using moronic arguments to try to convince people that spending so many billions on Ukraine is actually good for the US economy is a futile exercise. Nobody buys it and it ends up being counterproductive for the Ukrainian cause. The Dems have been using lots of arguments in favor of the aid but that’s not one of them.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel

    Yes, of course you ignored that the part of the Ukraine aid bill that involving weapons acquisition by Ukraine costs America nothing or almost nothing (it costs transportation minus the savings for America not having to decommission and dispose of them) because the weapons that Ukraine is getting are mostly those that were made and purchased decades ago. It is accounted for by replacement cost. Which means that the USA spends that money on itself by replacing old and obsolete weapons sent to Ukraine, with new ones.


    using moronic arguments to try to convince people that spending so many billions on Ukraine is actually good for the US economy
     
    I never claimed it was good “for the US economy.” I said it can be. Have you managed to regress and start lying, right after I praised your effort? Bad boy.

    I just showed that a lot of it is spent not in Ukraine but in the USA and thus the claims by some irresponsible politicians that the cost of the aid is all money sent to Ukraine are false.

    It’s certainly good for communities that have those factories and good for the US military. I make no claims about whether it is good or bad for the US economy to modernise the US military and support the American defence industry using tax dollars. It can be, I suppose. You claim it is bad for the US economy?

    Calling me a moron is a lie too, so you’ve really regressed :-(

  253. @Beckow
    @AP

    You call that piece of plasticky white foam bread? Wow, they should be giving it away for free - it is toxic. But ok, that's all you have in your world - I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted - quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    The problem is that you are comparing different worlds: some people live normal lives with normal food, and some sit in their cars for 45 minutes to go to WalMart to buy manufactured garbage food. Enjoy. As I said before, to each his own...but you seem quite insecure about that great life you supposedly have.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    The guy making a bitter two paragraph diatribe in response to my comparisons of cheap breads in each country says someone else is insecure 🙂

    In America one choose what one wants. I mostly buy bread at the bakery in Wholefoods where it costs $5.00 for a loaf (not sure how much per kg). It is good. Sometime I go to a Polish store where they also have good bread, cheaper. I have never bought the $3.00 per kg American bread, perhaps since when I was a poor student 30+ years ago.

    I visit Montreal a few times a year. The bakeries there are equal to the best anywhere else. A loaf of bread in one of them is only $3.00 Canadian.

    You like to write about Wal Mart. It must have really touched your soul. I don’t believe that you only went there twice.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    I pointed out that your bread comparison was silly. With you response you confirmed it - but your inability to see things in perspective, to understand that comparisons are relative and very imperfect is always there. That is insecurity. In Montreal I wouldn't do only bread, try their bagels - probably the best.

    Replies: @AP

  254. @Mikel
    @AP


    at least you did not attempt to “win” the argument by lying this time. Credit where credit is due
     
    Thanks. I'd love to return the favor and say that you're not being a moron this time but then I would be lying indeed and I don't do that.

    While we all understand why you do it, using moronic arguments to try to convince people that spending so many billions on Ukraine is actually good for the US economy is a futile exercise. Nobody buys it and it ends up being counterproductive for the Ukrainian cause. The Dems have been using lots of arguments in favor of the aid but that's not one of them.

    Replies: @AP

    Yes, of course you ignored that the part of the Ukraine aid bill that involving weapons acquisition by Ukraine costs America nothing or almost nothing (it costs transportation minus the savings for America not having to decommission and dispose of them) because the weapons that Ukraine is getting are mostly those that were made and purchased decades ago. It is accounted for by replacement cost. Which means that the USA spends that money on itself by replacing old and obsolete weapons sent to Ukraine, with new ones.

    using moronic arguments to try to convince people that spending so many billions on Ukraine is actually good for the US economy

    I never claimed it was good “for the US economy.” I said it can be. Have you managed to regress and start lying, right after I praised your effort? Bad boy.

    I just showed that a lot of it is spent not in Ukraine but in the USA and thus the claims by some irresponsible politicians that the cost of the aid is all money sent to Ukraine are false.

    It’s certainly good for communities that have those factories and good for the US military. I make no claims about whether it is good or bad for the US economy to modernise the US military and support the American defence industry using tax dollars. It can be, I suppose. You claim it is bad for the US economy?

    Calling me a moron is a lie too, so you’ve really regressed 🙁

  255. @Gerard1234
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Just to repeat my reply from the previous thread you may have missed :


    Yea, Riga does count very much – since Riga was mostly built by Germans and Latvians. They did not have a substantial presence compared to Latvians. Do not ever bring up Riga again in these conversations.

     

    Wow, I could not let this garbage written to Beckow pass.
    This is ridiculous….the first Riga architect that enters anyones head immediately is Eisenstein you idiot. Technically Jewish, but more than classifies enough to be considered a Russian architect. Then second name is Antonov – with him and Eisenstein the quality and quantity of their buildings around Riga is what makes them the primary ones anybody thinks of. Then after that its several excellent german architects, Swedes,Jews and many more Russian architects and engineers. Only AFTER that list do we get to minuscule number of Latvians “building” Riga you retarded idiot. Even then most of that small number were educated in Saint Petersburg. How can trash like you lie so much?

    Outside of Old Riga (which still has several buildings designed by Russian architects, and of course zero by Latvian ones) – what wasn’t designed by Russians …..was built ENTIRELY on RUSSIAN money, and ALL these were project managed by Russians , on orders of RUSSIANS so that these structures suit RUSSIAN tastes and interests you serial dumbfuck.

    I just can’t believe how much of a lying POS you have to be to write that nonsense to Beckow.
    The Riga Market is impossible to miss…….and entirely built by Russians. There is the Cultural Palace, I think the Latvian Central Bank building is Russian built, the massive bandstand at Mezhapark entirely Soviet/Russian project you imbecile in the architecture and the ethos of it ( travelling in Europe I haven’t seen a bandstand close to the size or style). MinNauk building is basically like one of the Seven sisters and, again, impossible to miss as the tallest building in Riga. The old stock exchange. The Ridzene hotel a typical soviet beauty ( and I think the top 3 hotels that I know of there are Russian built)

    Then of course there is the Gorky bridge (and ANY bridge over the Daugava you dipshit), and EVERY bit of big public infrastructure that exists in Riga providing the water, heat, taking the sewage away of anybody living in Riga, road – EVERYTHING is Russian made , mainly from the Soviets but plenty from Tsarist era.

    Whole neighbourhoods of the Riga conurbation built by the Soviets/Russians. Several well-known mansions from Tsarists times designed by Russians around Riga.

    Then I clearly remember visiting (as its at the most directly opposite the lovely (German) Riga Cathedral)……….the lovely Russia insurance society building which is definitely Russian-made, with joined to it the Radiodom – which I think was also built by a Russian architect. So in arguably the focal point of the city, the country – the Dom square the biggest and most relaxed square in the city, with the prestigious and beautiful German cathedral…….and directly opposite it around the square are definitely 1 , probably 2 large Russian buildings. Nowhere is there anything Latvian ( except for the retard red/brown – white flags LOL)

    Masses of Old Believers and Russian merchants found there way into Riga pre and early Tsarist era. ROC churches are a HUGE part of Riga you dickhead (certainly for the tourists). Its impossible to imagine Riga without these masterpiece churches, impossible to imagine Riga WITH “latvian” churches. There is the historic Moscow Forshstadt area ( where the MinNauk building is) and going through Riga I remember you can still see several wooden clad buildings………which means RUSSIAN (either Old Believers or Merchants) houses as the others would have the brick or stone exterior buildings. In none of this , is there such a thing as “Latvian” architecture you worthless, lying , pathetic scumbag.

    So key, historic landmarks, key and extensive infrastructure covering the public, cultural, education, finance sectors…. the entire city owing its existence to Russian people and Russian money , LMAO.

    That’s also not even taking into consideration the pre-Tsarist German and Swedish buildings destroyed during WW2 and rebuilt to a wonderful standard by the Soviets ……..or those masterful Tsarist Russian buildings that the Soviets removed, or the some of the masterful Stalinist-era buildings Khrushchev-era removed.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    As typical, your post is filled with lies and manipulations with context.

    Even then most of that small number were educated in Saint Petersburg.

    Various nationalities were educated in St Pete, but prior to the establishment of our own university, we received our higher education at the Tartu University – one of the oldest in the region (founded by Swedes). As to Latvian architects of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, some of them were educated in Paris or Italy (not just St Pete).

    A long list of notable buildings have been designed by ethnic Latvian architects (with the help of our own local construction company owners).

    Old Riga

    This is the most important area of the city, culturally speaking (but also commercially) – and it was not built by the Russian Empire at all, but over the centuries through a mix of German, Latvian and some Swedish efforts. Side note about the Baltic Germans:

    The Baltic Germans are an artificial nationality created through a colonization and assimilation process that spanned centuries and, while they retained an ethnic German core, they were not fully German. In a socially upward move, some locals (as well as some outside nationalities) blended into that nationality (which coincided with a higher social class). Yes, including Balts and Estonians.

    The well known Lieven family claims to be the descendants of the Liv tribal chieftain (Kaupo of the 13th century), hence their last name (Lieven means the Livs in German – so the origins of this family are not even Germanic but Baltic Finnic).

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    was built ENTIRELY on RUSSIAN money

    There was no such thing as “Russian money”, that was the Imperial treasury, also there was a lot of money that was generated in place and Riga had its own treasury.

    The Riga Market is impossible to miss…….and entirely built by Russians.

    The Riga Market has stood there since time immemorial, and was mentioned already in the 16th century. In 1922, large construction was undertaken there by an ethnic Latvian architect and the Riga City Council (also ethnic LV).

    the Latvian Central Bank building is Russian built

    No. The Central Bank building was designed by an ethnic Latvian architect (Augusts Reinbergs), and the Riga Bourse building – by a Baltic German.

    The Riga Castle was built during the Livonian times (13th cent, although apparently there had been a building there even before).

    Main churches – the Dome, St Pete’s, all the Catholic churches downtown, the Anglican church – were all there before the Russian Empire even showed up.

    The list goes on. Of course, there was some notable presence of the Russian Empire resources there, however, take together, majority of the city is built by Germans and Latvians, as I originally stated. Through the period of its more rapid growth (late 19th cent – early 20th cent), Latvians had been fully emancipated for a long time already and owned many business enterprises, not to mention that there was a thriving professional class and a large working class Latvian population that was also literate.

    Masses of Old Believers

    Not masses, but the largest proportion outside Russia, yes. Old Believers have been a loyal minority for a long time now. Many of them have spoken Latvian for a long time, probably even before the 1930s (along with their old Russian dialect).

    As to Old Believer merchants, they were like fish looking for deeper waters – they were not some selfless contributors, but simply tried to found enterprises closer to Europe for transportation purposes, also because the commercial culture in the Baltics was smoother than in the Slavic parts
    of the Russian Empire.

    EVERYTHING is Russian made , mainly from the Soviets but plenty from Tsarist era.

    The Soviet leadership was in most cases ethnic Latvian, the construction workers, too (probably in some cases managers as well). You simply pretend they didn’t exist.

    Radiodom – which I think was also built by a Russian architect.

    No, the architect was a Litvak (may have spoken Yiddish, and most likely spoke Latvian or Lithuanian, too, since he was from Kaunas).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Mandelstamm

    Construction was interrupted by WW1, then finished in 1926 by ethnic Latvians during the first republic.

    In the last 30 years, during the second republic, a few prominent buildings have been erected (most notably the National Library, the Castle of Light), as well as countless residential buildings (mostly Nordic and Lithuanian investment), countless renovated churches and historical landmarks (including Orthodox churches, so you might want to thank us for maintaining heritage that has connections with you).

    • Thanks: S
    • Replies: @LatW
    @LatW


    Various nationalities were educated in St Pete
     
    By the way, if we took a deeper dive into the academic institutions in St Pete - we'd see that there are a lot of Germans present, especially at the very early, founding stages and often the first rectors are also German.
  256. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs (probably more).
     
    Good for Poland...they have imported a minority that may have some demands in the future. What does that do for the Nato plan to move to Ukraine? Or for Ukraine?

    How many able bodied Slavs are there in Riga? Half a million? Why don't you celebrate it? Instead you engage in your atavistic fascism, foaming at the mouth while seeking "revenge", and lying about Riga's past - see Gerard above, you got caught prevaricating like with your denial of the Latvian WW2 Nazi SS Division...you guys have no class.

    Replies: @LatW

    with your denial of the Latvian WW2 Nazi SS Division

    SS was German built, that’s like saying “Polish concentration camps”. It’s a German brand, so wouldn’t want to appropriate. 🙂

    How many able bodied Slavs are there in Riga? Half a million?

    Assimilating slowly and enjoying life. The numbers changed a while back and are not what you assume. Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.

    Why don’t you celebrate it?

    It’s not in our customs to “celebrate diversity” and such. We just stop by for friendly banter sometimes.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine
     
    Its a criminal offense if they support the invasion you dipshit - in public or private. Not clear if you are only talking about those "lucky" enough to not be non-citizens in the Nazi-loser state.


    It’s not in our customs to “celebrate diversity” and such
     
    LMAO - but you just have entire Russian,German and Jewish stuff all around you that made the country ........but claim it as your own culture you demented moron!

    Plenty of diversity with your German-Jew President and American-homo PM ( or is that the FM?Where these freaks just replaced?........I just don't give a f**k about this non-entity of a country to look into it). No surprise this diversity for a cuckhold state.
    , @Beckow
    @LatW


    Latvian SS was German built
     
    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS. But even that you couldn't do by yourself, the servitude to Germans seems to be in the Latvian blood.

    There were no Poles as guards in the concentration camps - but the Ukies were there. Poles to their credit didn't collaborate - maybe most were not given the option. Donald Tusk's grandfather was in SS, he was probably "Aryan" enough...Most Poles were mercilessly slaughtered until Russian saved them. Poles forgot who was killing them, but will never forgive the Russians for putting a stop to it. As they say "chujova rasa"...


    Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.
     
    As you Latvians condemn the "imperialists" under the commies, and before that the "Bolsheviks" under the Germans...it is called human nature. Why do you take it seriously only when it suits you?

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

  257. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.
     
    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

    Replies: @Cesar1191, @Mr. XYZ

    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

    Imagine thinking that the Russians are successful compared to the Poles. lol. By what metric could this possibly be true? It is certainly not true for GDP per capita, life expectancy, industrial production per capita, science production per capita, AIDS prevalence, etc.

    It seems more reasonable to me to assume that anti-Russian sentiment in Poland is due to anger/resentment about Russian imperialism, and more importantly, about continued Russian imperialism and the continued threat that the country poses to its neighbors. Poland and Russia relations were much better in the 90s and 2000s. The Poles never forgot that Russia was a potential threat, but for a while they were willing to entertain the idea that Russia could be a normal European country.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Cesar1191


    It seems more reasonable to me to assume that anti-Russian sentiment in Poland is due to anger/resentment about Russian imperialism
     
    That, and the difficulty in our communication stems from the fact that today's Russians feel entitled to all of the successes and possessions of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union, they also want to have the rights and the perception of a master race, even though the average Russian is in no way superior to an average Pole, Balt or Ukrainian (and hasn't been historically). When we communicate as equals then there are no problems typically. The problems are caused by these conflated and artificially misplaced identities. Apex fallacies.
    , @AP
    @Cesar1191


    Imagine thinking that the Russians are successful compared to the Poles
     
    They are successful in the sense that they had a large empire more recently (until 1917), and were the main ethnicity of the post-Russian Soviet empire, although they and the people under them were often miserable, whereas Poland disappeared for awhile and never restored its lost power.

    In all other areas, Russians are less successful than the Poles.


    Poland and Russia relations were much better in the 90s and 2000s. The Poles never forgot that Russia was a potential threat, but for a while they were willing to entertain the idea that Russia could be a normal European country.
     
    When one sets aside the political culture, Russians are normal and decent people, like other Slavs. From the Polish POV, they are primitive and unrefined but very "human." Poles though that regular Russians were also victims of the Soviets and did not blame them that much for Soviet crimes.

    However, as it has become clear that regular Russians respect Stalin, that they support Putin/Putinism and Russian imperialism, they have "earned" the responsibility for Soviet and now post-Soviet crimes. The politics an no longer be separated from the people. Accordingly, the Russian people are viewed much more negatively than they were before by Poles.

    Replies: @Cesar1191

  258. @AP
    @Beckow

    The guy making a bitter two paragraph diatribe in response to my comparisons of cheap breads in each country says someone else is insecure :-)

    In America one choose what one wants. I mostly buy bread at the bakery in Wholefoods where it costs $5.00 for a loaf (not sure how much per kg). It is good. Sometime I go to a Polish store where they also have good bread, cheaper. I have never bought the $3.00 per kg American bread, perhaps since when I was a poor student 30+ years ago.

    I visit Montreal a few times a year. The bakeries there are equal to the best anywhere else. A loaf of bread in one of them is only $3.00 Canadian.

    You like to write about Wal Mart. It must have really touched your soul. I don’t believe that you only went there twice.

    Replies: @Beckow

    I pointed out that your bread comparison was silly. With you response you confirmed it – but your inability to see things in perspective, to understand that comparisons are relative and very imperfect is always there. That is insecurity. In Montreal I wouldn’t do only bread, try their bagels – probably the best.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    I pointed out that your bread comparison was silly.
     
    You pointed out that American mass-produced bread is terrible. So?

    but your inability to see things in perspective, to understand that comparisons are relative and very imperfect is always there
     
    Of course they are imperfect. The point is that American (and German) breads are not $6.00 and are not much more pricy than breads in Moscow, which is while wealthy by Russian standards is still poorer than USA or Germany.

    In Montreal I wouldn’t do only bread, try their bagels – probably the best.
     
    They are proud of them, but Montreal bagels are not much better than what one can find in the Northeastern USA. The famous smoked meat store with the long lines is overrated IMO.

    The bread, pastries, cakes, etc. OTOH are much better, and cheaper.

    If anyone is reading this and going to Montreal, here is an excellent local chain:

    https://premieremoisson.com/en

    I was wrong about the bread price there, it isn't $3.00 Canadian but $5.00 Canadian ($3.75
    American) for a loaf.

    https://premieremoisson.com/en/products/bakery/white-breads/belgian-sourdough-bread

    Replies: @Beckow

  259. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

     

    Imagine thinking that the Russians are successful compared to the Poles. lol. By what metric could this possibly be true? It is certainly not true for GDP per capita, life expectancy, industrial production per capita, science production per capita, AIDS prevalence, etc.

    It seems more reasonable to me to assume that anti-Russian sentiment in Poland is due to anger/resentment about Russian imperialism, and more importantly, about continued Russian imperialism and the continued threat that the country poses to its neighbors. Poland and Russia relations were much better in the 90s and 2000s. The Poles never forgot that Russia was a potential threat, but for a while they were willing to entertain the idea that Russia could be a normal European country.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    It seems more reasonable to me to assume that anti-Russian sentiment in Poland is due to anger/resentment about Russian imperialism

    That, and the difficulty in our communication stems from the fact that today’s Russians feel entitled to all of the successes and possessions of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union, they also want to have the rights and the perception of a master race, even though the average Russian is in no way superior to an average Pole, Balt or Ukrainian (and hasn’t been historically). When we communicate as equals then there are no problems typically. The problems are caused by these conflated and artificially misplaced identities. Apex fallacies.

  260. @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    As typical, your post is filled with lies and manipulations with context.


    Even then most of that small number were educated in Saint Petersburg.
     
    Various nationalities were educated in St Pete, but prior to the establishment of our own university, we received our higher education at the Tartu University - one of the oldest in the region (founded by Swedes). As to Latvian architects of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, some of them were educated in Paris or Italy (not just St Pete).

    A long list of notable buildings have been designed by ethnic Latvian architects (with the help of our own local construction company owners).

    Old Riga
     
    This is the most important area of the city, culturally speaking (but also commercially) - and it was not built by the Russian Empire at all, but over the centuries through a mix of German, Latvian and some Swedish efforts. Side note about the Baltic Germans:

    The Baltic Germans are an artificial nationality created through a colonization and assimilation process that spanned centuries and, while they retained an ethnic German core, they were not fully German. In a socially upward move, some locals (as well as some outside nationalities) blended into that nationality (which coincided with a higher social class). Yes, including Balts and Estonians.

    The well known Lieven family claims to be the descendants of the Liv tribal chieftain (Kaupo of the 13th century), hence their last name (Lieven means the Livs in German – so the origins of this family are not even Germanic but Baltic Finnic).

    was built ENTIRELY on RUSSIAN money
     
    There was no such thing as "Russian money", that was the Imperial treasury, also there was a lot of money that was generated in place and Riga had its own treasury.

    The Riga Market is impossible to miss…….and entirely built by Russians.
     
    The Riga Market has stood there since time immemorial, and was mentioned already in the 16th century. In 1922, large construction was undertaken there by an ethnic Latvian architect and the Riga City Council (also ethnic LV).

    the Latvian Central Bank building is Russian built
     
    No. The Central Bank building was designed by an ethnic Latvian architect (Augusts Reinbergs), and the Riga Bourse building - by a Baltic German.

    The Riga Castle was built during the Livonian times (13th cent, although apparently there had been a building there even before).

    Main churches - the Dome, St Pete's, all the Catholic churches downtown, the Anglican church - were all there before the Russian Empire even showed up.

    The list goes on. Of course, there was some notable presence of the Russian Empire resources there, however, take together, majority of the city is built by Germans and Latvians, as I originally stated. Through the period of its more rapid growth (late 19th cent - early 20th cent), Latvians had been fully emancipated for a long time already and owned many business enterprises, not to mention that there was a thriving professional class and a large working class Latvian population that was also literate.

    Masses of Old Believers
     
    Not masses, but the largest proportion outside Russia, yes. Old Believers have been a loyal minority for a long time now. Many of them have spoken Latvian for a long time, probably even before the 1930s (along with their old Russian dialect).

    As to Old Believer merchants, they were like fish looking for deeper waters - they were not some selfless contributors, but simply tried to found enterprises closer to Europe for transportation purposes, also because the commercial culture in the Baltics was smoother than in the Slavic parts
    of the Russian Empire.


    EVERYTHING is Russian made , mainly from the Soviets but plenty from Tsarist era.
     
    The Soviet leadership was in most cases ethnic Latvian, the construction workers, too (probably in some cases managers as well). You simply pretend they didn't exist.

    Radiodom – which I think was also built by a Russian architect.
     
    No, the architect was a Litvak (may have spoken Yiddish, and most likely spoke Latvian or Lithuanian, too, since he was from Kaunas).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Mandelstamm

    Construction was interrupted by WW1, then finished in 1926 by ethnic Latvians during the first republic.

    In the last 30 years, during the second republic, a few prominent buildings have been erected (most notably the National Library, the Castle of Light), as well as countless residential buildings (mostly Nordic and Lithuanian investment), countless renovated churches and historical landmarks (including Orthodox churches, so you might want to thank us for maintaining heritage that has connections with you).

    Replies: @LatW

    Various nationalities were educated in St Pete

    By the way, if we took a deeper dive into the academic institutions in St Pete – we’d see that there are a lot of Germans present, especially at the very early, founding stages and often the first rectors are also German.

  261. @Beckow
    @AP

    I pointed out that your bread comparison was silly. With you response you confirmed it - but your inability to see things in perspective, to understand that comparisons are relative and very imperfect is always there. That is insecurity. In Montreal I wouldn't do only bread, try their bagels - probably the best.

    Replies: @AP

    I pointed out that your bread comparison was silly.

    You pointed out that American mass-produced bread is terrible. So?

    but your inability to see things in perspective, to understand that comparisons are relative and very imperfect is always there

    Of course they are imperfect. The point is that American (and German) breads are not $6.00 and are not much more pricy than breads in Moscow, which is while wealthy by Russian standards is still poorer than USA or Germany.

    In Montreal I wouldn’t do only bread, try their bagels – probably the best.

    They are proud of them, but Montreal bagels are not much better than what one can find in the Northeastern USA. The famous smoked meat store with the long lines is overrated IMO.

    The bread, pastries, cakes, etc. OTOH are much better, and cheaper.

    If anyone is reading this and going to Montreal, here is an excellent local chain:

    https://premieremoisson.com/en

    I was wrong about the bread price there, it isn’t $3.00 Canadian but $5.00 Canadian ($3.75
    American) for a loaf.

    https://premieremoisson.com/en/products/bakery/white-breads/belgian-sourdough-bread

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...but Montreal bagels are not much better than what one can find in the Northeastern USA.
     
    You have crossed the red line!...Montreal bagels are tastier, smaller, baked the old fashioned way. To say "not much better" is to miss the whole point of eating, one should aspire for the best.

    Most Americans have been eating what is basically manufactured garbage food for a few generations. It shows: fatness, lack of any shape, inflamed faces from too much food toxicity. It was a Faustian bargain in the mid-20th century to go for cheap, mass-produced food: survive and be happy on plentiful carbohydrates while slowly destroying the genetics.

    You will point out that there are exceptions, and that is correct: as in other areas Americans are split between the smart, comfortable, healthy minority and the mass of struggling survivors. The mass immigration from the Third World has made it much worse. In similar societies in the past, the masses eventually overwhelm the minority. When one travels around US there are whole areas that have gone into fatalistic eat-you-way-through-life sub-existence...the lack of style or any sense for public beauty doesn't help.

    And old rule in the nature is that an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

  262. This is a good eyewitness account of the Russian Civil War entitled Cursed Days; A Diary of Revolution by Ivan Bunin. The term ‘civil war’ seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    A similar ‘civil war’ in the United States would be primarily a war against the remnant organic identity of the Anglo-Saxons.

    https://archive.org/details/cursed-days-a-diary-of-revolu-bunin-ivan-alekseevich-1870-1/page/31/mode/1up

    ‘The last time I was in Petersburg was in early April ’17 . Then something unimaginable had just happened in the world. One of the very greatest countries on earth was thrown to the full whim of fate —and not just at any time but during a very great world war. The trenches still stretched for three thousand miles in the west, but they had already become simple pits.’

    ‘The deed was done, and in a way that was simply unprecedented and absurd. A power that had extended over three million miles, and that had comprised an armed horde, an army of millions of men, was transferred into the hands of “commissars,” of journalists such as SoboP and Yordansky.’

    ‘But more awesome was the fact that the magnificent, centuries-old life that had reigned throughout the entire great expanse of Russia was suddenly cut short and replaced by a bewildering existence, one that was rooted in a pointless, holidaylike atmosphere and in an unnatural abandonment of everything that human society had lived by.’

    • Thanks: Emil Nikola Richard
    • Replies: @LatW
    @S


    ".. the magnificent, centuries-old life that had reigned throughout the entire great expanse of Russia.."
     
    Especially starting at 8:13...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gby5qSOwtSM

    Replies: @S

    , @John Johnson
    @S

    This is a good eyewitness account of the Russian Civil War entitled Cursed Days; A Diary of Revolution by Ivan Bunin. The term ‘civil war’ seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    It's not a misnomer. A civil war did occur and with full scale battles involving millions of combatants across multiple countries:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

    The Russian Revolution was more than storming the Kremlin.

    Most of the Russian military chose to back the Communists and then rampaged in not just Russia but Ukraine, Belarus and other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1 and then went to war for 6 years against their own kind for the Reds. An extremely dysgenic civil war whereby anyone not wanting to be part of the revolution could just slip into Western Europe or head to the US. Basically anyone with talent that doesn't buy into Marxist bullshit.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @S

  263. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

     

    Imagine thinking that the Russians are successful compared to the Poles. lol. By what metric could this possibly be true? It is certainly not true for GDP per capita, life expectancy, industrial production per capita, science production per capita, AIDS prevalence, etc.

    It seems more reasonable to me to assume that anti-Russian sentiment in Poland is due to anger/resentment about Russian imperialism, and more importantly, about continued Russian imperialism and the continued threat that the country poses to its neighbors. Poland and Russia relations were much better in the 90s and 2000s. The Poles never forgot that Russia was a potential threat, but for a while they were willing to entertain the idea that Russia could be a normal European country.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    Imagine thinking that the Russians are successful compared to the Poles

    They are successful in the sense that they had a large empire more recently (until 1917), and were the main ethnicity of the post-Russian Soviet empire, although they and the people under them were often miserable, whereas Poland disappeared for awhile and never restored its lost power.

    In all other areas, Russians are less successful than the Poles.

    Poland and Russia relations were much better in the 90s and 2000s. The Poles never forgot that Russia was a potential threat, but for a while they were willing to entertain the idea that Russia could be a normal European country.

    When one sets aside the political culture, Russians are normal and decent people, like other Slavs. From the Polish POV, they are primitive and unrefined but very “human.” Poles though that regular Russians were also victims of the Soviets and did not blame them that much for Soviet crimes.

    However, as it has become clear that regular Russians respect Stalin, that they support Putin/Putinism and Russian imperialism, they have “earned” the responsibility for Soviet and now post-Soviet crimes. The politics an no longer be separated from the people. Accordingly, the Russian people are viewed much more negatively than they were before by Poles.

    • Replies: @Cesar1191
    @AP


    They are successful in the sense that they had a large empire more recently (until 1917), and were the main ethnicity of the post-Russian Soviet empire, although they and the people under them were often miserable, whereas Poland disappeared for awhile and never restored its lost power.

     

    Yes, the Russians outnumber the Poles and they were the main component of the Russian empire, but you know, most of Switzerland's neighbors outnumber the Swiss and Norway were part of the Danish empire, and yet, I don't think the Swiss and the Norwegians hate other people's success.

    Russia's larger size is relevant because it allows Russia to remain a threat to its neighbors, and it is this threat that is the greatest impediment to good relations. If or when Russia becomes a normal European country, with no more ambitions to invade and/or impose spheres of influence on its neighbors, I think Russia's relationship with its neighbors will be normal and without hostility, and that includes the Ukrainians. Right now Ukrainians hate Russians, for obvious reasons, but time heals these wounds.

    Of course, the tragic irony about Ukraine is that the country was one of the most Russia friendly countries in Europe until 2013 or perhaps even 2022, and that is probably one reason why Ukraine was viewed with suspicion in some European countries, and why many thought that Ukraine could just be left as part of Russia's sphere. Putin was wrong in thinking that East Ukrainians would side with Russia, but East Ukrainians did feel close to the Russian people. There are these videos at the beginning of the war with East Ukrainians saying how betrayed they felt, how they once thought of Russians as a close people, but not anymore.

  264. @sudden death
    @S


    weaponized Blacks spearheading the Communist revolution and demanding ‘reparations’
     
    Reminder that Putin secret service operatives were also outright inciting/amplifying and paying for organizing all this “gimme black slavery/genocide reparations” stuff in US long before 2022 invasion in UA happened:

    https://i.imgur.com/4O266Q1.jpeg

    https://i.imgur.com/oijntnQ.png

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22123394/ionov-indictment.pdf

    Replies: @S

    Reminder that Putin secret service operatives were also outright inciting/amplifying and paying for organizing all this “gimme black slavery/genocide reparations” stuff in US long before 2022 invasion in UA happened:

    Thanks. Also reminds of Soviet defector Anatoly Golitsyn’s claim that the ‘liberalizing’ of the Soviet Union was a deep fake, and that some day, when the time was right, Russia and China would openly join together as one clenched fist and overwhelm the United States and the West.

    https://archive.org/details/NewLiesForOld

    • Thanks: sudden death
  265. @Beckow
    @AP

    You call that piece of plasticky white foam bread? Wow, they should be giving it away for free - it is toxic. But ok, that's all you have in your world - I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted - quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    The problem is that you are comparing different worlds: some people live normal lives with normal food, and some sit in their cars for 45 minutes to go to WalMart to buy manufactured garbage food. Enjoy. As I said before, to each his own...but you seem quite insecure about that great life you supposedly have.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted – quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    Walmart carries Dave’s bread and the ingredients are listed.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dave-s-Killer-Bread-21-Whole-Grains-and-Seeds-Organic-Bread-Loaf-27-oz/49342184?athbdg=L1600&from=/search

    You can even call the company and ask about the bread.
    https://www.daveskillerbread.com/

    Tell us exactly how it isn’t real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.

    When did you last visit Walmart? 1995?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    2018, maybe they got better...:) I checked the ingredients and it is better, but fake - too many chemicals, whenever the list is a full paragraph like the Dave's bread, you are getting some serious toxins. It is better bread than the white foamy concoction, but not healthy. How much is it? I doubt it goes for AP's $3.

    Another issue is that US wheat is loaded up with pesticides - it is actually banned in EU because of that, and same for US frozen chickens that are full of antibiotics. Even well-crafted food in US can't avoid to be made from inferior ingredients. Everything is allowed, because 'business'...

    Notice that most Europeans don't have the swollen look of Americans. Some of it is the healthier lifestyle, more walking, less sitting in cars - but it is also better nutrition with fewer toxic substances in food. EU gets ridiculed for many of its rules - bananas must be curved!!! - but it has an impact on the food: it is a lot healthier than in the US.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Walmart carries Dave’s bread and the ingredients are listed .... Tell us exactly how it isn’t real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.
     
    I know that bread quite well. Smiths/Kroger also carries it and I spent several months buying it regularly. It doesn't have the look or texture of what our forefathers several generations back would have called 'bread' but it does have what appear to be healthy ingredients and its perfectly sliced format allows for easy calorie counting, which is helpful for my low body fat percentage goals.

    However, I finally decided to stop eating that stuff. First, I got tired of the sweet aftertaste. That "organic" cane sugar and molasses listed in the ingredients make their presence be felt much more than necessary (and what do you need sugar and molasses in real bread for anyway?). For obvious reasons (that any non-British European here will understand) I'd never eat that bread along with dishes like steak or seafood but still eating that sweetish stuff with tomato sauce or salad became too annoying.

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave's bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days. I know that old-fashioned bread baked at home with only 4 ingredients (whole wheat flour, water, salt, yeast) would also keep for a long time but it would get moldy on the surface and people would slice out those moldy parts and give them to the farm animals. Apparently, the sourness of naturally produced yeast has anti mold and antibacterial properties. But Dave's is clearly a different kind of preservation. A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow's point. But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you're lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that's more difficult in the very rural areas.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson

  266. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.
     
    You forgot the projection part by Russians, whose inferiority complex towards the West can be rather extreme.

    Replies: @Cesar1191, @Mr. XYZ

    I think that a part of this might be envy towards the West: Towards the West’s success, towards the West’s power, and towards the West’s influence, all of which Russia could not realistically hope to match right now. Russia lost its golden moment during the 20th century as a result of Communism. Lenin really did deserve to get a bullet put into his head sometime before early 1917. Killing both Trotsky and Stalin as well would have, of course, really helped as well.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
  267. @S
    This is a good eyewitness account of the Russian Civil War entitled Cursed Days; A Diary of Revolution by Ivan Bunin. The term 'civil war' seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    A similar 'civil war' in the United States would be primarily a war against the remnant organic identity of the Anglo-Saxons.

    https://archive.org/details/cursed-days-a-diary-of-revolu-bunin-ivan-alekseevich-1870-1/page/31/mode/1up

    'The last time I was in Petersburg was in early April ’17 . Then something unimaginable had just happened in the world. One of the very greatest countries on earth was thrown to the full whim of fate —and not just at any time but during a very great world war. The trenches still stretched for three thousand miles in the west, but they had already become simple pits.'

    'The deed was done, and in a way that was simply unprecedented and absurd. A power that had extended over three million miles, and that had comprised an armed horde, an army of millions of men, was transferred into the hands of “commissars,” of journalists such as SoboP and Yordansky.'

    'But more awesome was the fact that the magnificent, centuries-old life that had reigned throughout the entire great expanse of Russia was suddenly cut short and replaced by a bewildering existence, one that was rooted in a pointless, holidaylike atmosphere and in an unnatural abandonment of everything that human society had lived by.'
     

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    “.. the magnificent, centuries-old life that had reigned throughout the entire great expanse of Russia..”

    Especially starting at 8:13…

    • Replies: @S
    @LatW

    Thanks for the film clip.

    Some of those filmed looked like WW I Austria-Hungarian POW's. I'd once read that the Russians were quite proud how well treated these POW's were in comparison to past wars. Good for them.

    Replies: @LatW

  268. The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn’t taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/politics/ndaa-defense-bill-what-is/index.html

    It’s not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations. But this plus the $200 million recently given plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given should help Ukraine through January.

    LOL, if Haley becomes Trump’s nominee that is a signal that he’ll be good for Ukraine:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @LatW
    @AP


    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine.
     
    Some funding is also trickling in from some Northern European countries.

    What is even more important is that the EU decided to start the accession talks (they kindly asked Orban to leave the room while they voted). This could signal that they are anticipating the creation of some kind of a serious deterrent - otherwise the Germans would not invest there long term. The security element is tied to this and will come later (remains to be seen in what institutional form).

    The question then is in what form are they anticipating to accept Ukraine (with what territory). I'm sure that they are well aware that the Ukrainian people will not accept an attempted legitimization of new borders (that come out of a partitioned Ukraine). So they are either anticipating a full win (and return to the borders of 1991, e.g., the actual internationally recognized border) or they are willing to leave this open (and just see what happens and then go from there).

    But, as I said, the Germans would not be making this kind of a commitment, if they were not convinced that security will be provided one way or the other. And this is a sign that the Europeans can act in a steadfast manner, if needed.

    Replies: @A123

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I was watching TVP world the other night hosted by Rock Rachon. He had a military expert on that unambiguously stated that Biden has the ability to direct some 100 ATACM systems Ukraine's way by merely signing a presidential directive to do so at any time going forward without any congressional approval or red tape because these systems have been deemed to be outdated. He said that giving any of them to Ukraine would be extremely cost effective as it would alleviate any costs that would be needed to otherwise fix these systems or to outright retire and destroy them. Do you have any thoughts or opinions about this or even know about this development?

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    if Haley becomes Trump’s nominee that is a signal that he’ll be good for Ukraine:
     
    I too was thinking that this would be a good team, practically unbeatable. If this were to occur, poor, poor kremlnstoogeA123, he'll most likely end up in a nursing home having to wear pampers for the rest of his life. :-)

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @A123
    @AP


    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn’t taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).
     
    So you do understand what a new appropriation is. Excellent. You are learning. Keep up the good work. I give credit where credit is due.

    The ask was $60B. The new appropriation was $0.3B. So the funding is 1/2 of 1% of the request. While this is mathematically above zero, it is not an impressive sum.


    This isn’t taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).
     
    How long does Pentagon procurement take to order new gear and receive it? Normally months at a minimum. Your assumption that the turnaround will be days to buy and weeks to deliver, is quite optimistic.

    plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given
     
    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the "minimum war reserve line" is quite restrictive. What is available? You previously commented on equipment book valued at millions actually worth about $1. Was it the M111 or M117? What makes you think the $4.4B will immediately deliver combat effective equipment?

    should help Ukraine through January.
     
    Negotiations restart in January. That implies a bill in February at the earliest.

    It’s not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations
     
    It is near certain that the $60B will be cut back heavily in a U.S. election year. And, this is already much lower versus ~$100B last year.

    Is not EU funding also down? IIRC last year was ~€90B, and this year's negotiations are for ~€50B?

    Fundamentally, your position needs France and Germany to put in an ADDITIONAL €3-5B/month, on top of their piece of the EU package to make up for lower U.S. and EU contributions. Scholz has judiciary driven budget issues and Macron may be hit by a no confidence vote.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

  269. More from the “magnificent expanse”.

    Full compilation of rare photos:

    [MORE]

    Cool Moscow street atmosphere in winter (1908):

    Colorized photos of Whites (at 3:10 – the gorgeous and valiant Latvian White, Colonel Fridrih Briedis, RIP):

    • Thanks: Emil Nikola Richard
  270. @Gerard1234
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Just to repeat my reply from the previous thread you may have missed :


    Yea, Riga does count very much – since Riga was mostly built by Germans and Latvians. They did not have a substantial presence compared to Latvians. Do not ever bring up Riga again in these conversations.

     

    Wow, I could not let this garbage written to Beckow pass.
    This is ridiculous….the first Riga architect that enters anyones head immediately is Eisenstein you idiot. Technically Jewish, but more than classifies enough to be considered a Russian architect. Then second name is Antonov – with him and Eisenstein the quality and quantity of their buildings around Riga is what makes them the primary ones anybody thinks of. Then after that its several excellent german architects, Swedes,Jews and many more Russian architects and engineers. Only AFTER that list do we get to minuscule number of Latvians “building” Riga you retarded idiot. Even then most of that small number were educated in Saint Petersburg. How can trash like you lie so much?

    Outside of Old Riga (which still has several buildings designed by Russian architects, and of course zero by Latvian ones) – what wasn’t designed by Russians …..was built ENTIRELY on RUSSIAN money, and ALL these were project managed by Russians , on orders of RUSSIANS so that these structures suit RUSSIAN tastes and interests you serial dumbfuck.

    I just can’t believe how much of a lying POS you have to be to write that nonsense to Beckow.
    The Riga Market is impossible to miss…….and entirely built by Russians. There is the Cultural Palace, I think the Latvian Central Bank building is Russian built, the massive bandstand at Mezhapark entirely Soviet/Russian project you imbecile in the architecture and the ethos of it ( travelling in Europe I haven’t seen a bandstand close to the size or style). MinNauk building is basically like one of the Seven sisters and, again, impossible to miss as the tallest building in Riga. The old stock exchange. The Ridzene hotel a typical soviet beauty ( and I think the top 3 hotels that I know of there are Russian built)

    Then of course there is the Gorky bridge (and ANY bridge over the Daugava you dipshit), and EVERY bit of big public infrastructure that exists in Riga providing the water, heat, taking the sewage away of anybody living in Riga, road – EVERYTHING is Russian made , mainly from the Soviets but plenty from Tsarist era.

    Whole neighbourhoods of the Riga conurbation built by the Soviets/Russians. Several well-known mansions from Tsarists times designed by Russians around Riga.

    Then I clearly remember visiting (as its at the most directly opposite the lovely (German) Riga Cathedral)……….the lovely Russia insurance society building which is definitely Russian-made, with joined to it the Radiodom – which I think was also built by a Russian architect. So in arguably the focal point of the city, the country – the Dom square the biggest and most relaxed square in the city, with the prestigious and beautiful German cathedral…….and directly opposite it around the square are definitely 1 , probably 2 large Russian buildings. Nowhere is there anything Latvian ( except for the retard red/brown – white flags LOL)

    Masses of Old Believers and Russian merchants found there way into Riga pre and early Tsarist era. ROC churches are a HUGE part of Riga you dickhead (certainly for the tourists). Its impossible to imagine Riga without these masterpiece churches, impossible to imagine Riga WITH “latvian” churches. There is the historic Moscow Forshstadt area ( where the MinNauk building is) and going through Riga I remember you can still see several wooden clad buildings………which means RUSSIAN (either Old Believers or Merchants) houses as the others would have the brick or stone exterior buildings. In none of this , is there such a thing as “Latvian” architecture you worthless, lying , pathetic scumbag.

    So key, historic landmarks, key and extensive infrastructure covering the public, cultural, education, finance sectors…. the entire city owing its existence to Russian people and Russian money , LMAO.

    That’s also not even taking into consideration the pre-Tsarist German and Swedish buildings destroyed during WW2 and rebuilt to a wonderful standard by the Soviets ……..or those masterful Tsarist Russian buildings that the Soviets removed, or the some of the masterful Stalinist-era buildings Khrushchev-era removed.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    So to address your lies and misrepresentations in more detail, these were the best known architects in the late 19th – early 20th century:

    Karl Felsko (Baltic German, although last name sounds Swedish)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Felsko

    Mikhail Eisenstein – born in a Jewish merchant family in Bila Tsirkva (currently Ukraine), named Moishe Eisenstein at birth. Designed my favorite facade with women’s visages:
    https://www.bruceonarthistory.com/2017/12/13/facade-10b-elizabetes-iela-riga/

    Wilhelm Bockslaff (old aristocratic Baltic German family)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Bockslaff

    Robert Pflug (Baltic German, designed the Orthodox Nativity Cathedral that you mentioned)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pflug

    Konstantīns Pēkšēns (Latvian, designed many famous Art Nouveau buildings downtown, including a residential building showcasing on the famous Alberta street, and a prominent Orthodox church)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstant%C4%ABns_P%C4%93k%C5%A1%C4%93ns

    Eižens Laube (Latvian)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ei%C5%BEens_Laube

    And there are several others (among the more prominent ones, none are ethnically Russian) who designed most of the buildings of that time. The Latvian architect who designed the Central Bank actually designed a residential building in St Petersburg.

    Many of them were trained in the Riga Polytechnical Institute, or in Berlin or in St Pete.

    Here is a more detailed write up in English, listing these and several other prominent Riga architects (as you can see, mostly Baltic German with several Latvians who were very productive) with their detailed bios, as well as the addresses of the buildings they designed, most of which are in central areas of the city).

    https://jugendstils.riga.lv/eng/JugendstilsRiga/Architects/

  271. @AP
    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn't taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/politics/ndaa-defense-bill-what-is/index.html

    It's not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations. But this plus the $200 million recently given plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given should help Ukraine through January.

    LOL, if Haley becomes Trump's nominee that is a signal that he'll be good for Ukraine:



    https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1735778583342199281?s=20

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack, @A123

    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine.

    Some funding is also trickling in from some Northern European countries.

    What is even more important is that the EU decided to start the accession talks (they kindly asked Orban to leave the room while they voted). This could signal that they are anticipating the creation of some kind of a serious deterrent – otherwise the Germans would not invest there long term. The security element is tied to this and will come later (remains to be seen in what institutional form).

    The question then is in what form are they anticipating to accept Ukraine (with what territory). I’m sure that they are well aware that the Ukrainian people will not accept an attempted legitimization of new borders (that come out of a partitioned Ukraine). So they are either anticipating a full win (and return to the borders of 1991, e.g., the actual internationally recognized border) or they are willing to leave this open (and just see what happens and then go from there).

    But, as I said, the Germans would not be making this kind of a commitment, if they were not convinced that security will be provided one way or the other. And this is a sign that the Europeans can act in a steadfast manner, if needed.

    • Replies: @A123
    @LatW


    What is even more important is that the EU decided to start the accession talks (they kindly asked Orban to leave the room while they voted).
     
    It would be more accurate to state that they compensated Hungary not to veto the ascension talks by releasing over €10B of EU payments.

    Farming blocks have political power in EU countries, notably France. This has made Common Agricultural Policy [CAP] programmes untouchable since founding. Ukraine is among the largest farming countries on the world. How will Ukraine be integrated into the CAP?

    Hungary was willing to take the money to walk as they know that there are near insurmountable obstacles to Ukraine actually joining the EU. Remember that ascension talks do not guarantee acceptance, ask Türkiye. Future vetoes can still take place.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @LatW

  272. @AP
    @Cesar1191


    Imagine thinking that the Russians are successful compared to the Poles
     
    They are successful in the sense that they had a large empire more recently (until 1917), and were the main ethnicity of the post-Russian Soviet empire, although they and the people under them were often miserable, whereas Poland disappeared for awhile and never restored its lost power.

    In all other areas, Russians are less successful than the Poles.


    Poland and Russia relations were much better in the 90s and 2000s. The Poles never forgot that Russia was a potential threat, but for a while they were willing to entertain the idea that Russia could be a normal European country.
     
    When one sets aside the political culture, Russians are normal and decent people, like other Slavs. From the Polish POV, they are primitive and unrefined but very "human." Poles though that regular Russians were also victims of the Soviets and did not blame them that much for Soviet crimes.

    However, as it has become clear that regular Russians respect Stalin, that they support Putin/Putinism and Russian imperialism, they have "earned" the responsibility for Soviet and now post-Soviet crimes. The politics an no longer be separated from the people. Accordingly, the Russian people are viewed much more negatively than they were before by Poles.

    Replies: @Cesar1191

    They are successful in the sense that they had a large empire more recently (until 1917), and were the main ethnicity of the post-Russian Soviet empire, although they and the people under them were often miserable, whereas Poland disappeared for awhile and never restored its lost power.

    Yes, the Russians outnumber the Poles and they were the main component of the Russian empire, but you know, most of Switzerland’s neighbors outnumber the Swiss and Norway were part of the Danish empire, and yet, I don’t think the Swiss and the Norwegians hate other people’s success.

    Russia’s larger size is relevant because it allows Russia to remain a threat to its neighbors, and it is this threat that is the greatest impediment to good relations. If or when Russia becomes a normal European country, with no more ambitions to invade and/or impose spheres of influence on its neighbors, I think Russia’s relationship with its neighbors will be normal and without hostility, and that includes the Ukrainians. Right now Ukrainians hate Russians, for obvious reasons, but time heals these wounds.

    Of course, the tragic irony about Ukraine is that the country was one of the most Russia friendly countries in Europe until 2013 or perhaps even 2022, and that is probably one reason why Ukraine was viewed with suspicion in some European countries, and why many thought that Ukraine could just be left as part of Russia’s sphere. Putin was wrong in thinking that East Ukrainians would side with Russia, but East Ukrainians did feel close to the Russian people. There are these videos at the beginning of the war with East Ukrainians saying how betrayed they felt, how they once thought of Russians as a close people, but not anymore.

  273. @Mr_Chow_Mein
    So the Houthis are the only one's in the middle-east beside Hezbollah and Hamas to take on the real enemies of the Arab world, the sycophantic Arab puppet states that allow U.S and Israel to rule the area.

    The Houthis have done more to disrupt the U.S and Israel than all the so-called powerful Arab states combined, now the U.S is looking for a coalition of the willing to send their precious navy to patrol the area.

    How many will do that when the Houthis flood the straits with shipping mines?

    The Houthis can choke shipping in the Area and make the dogs like Egypt pay. Egypt take Israeli stolen gas then look the other way as Palistinians are murdered.

    The Houthis have realized they have immense power and are the new leadership of the Arab world.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @ShortOnTime

    Don’t get your hopes up.

    The Houthis/Ansarullah can’t do much more than launch a few missiles at Israel and disrupt some world trade off the coast of Yemen by targeting trade ships. As the attempted Arab oil embargo of the 1970’s shows, disrupting the USA’s economy to try to stop American armament of Israel and attempting to reverse Israel’s battlefield victories doesn’t really work.

    It of course may be too premature to predict absolutely everything about the war and the ensuing political arrangements, but the fall of North Gaza to Israel looks like it’s only a matter of time. Somewhere from several more weeks to a few months, and it seems almost certain to be an established fact.

    The only weak point Israel and Jews seem to have is that they value their own lives so highly (and view those of non-Jewish goyim so lowly) that they don’t have the capacity to endure very high casualties (more than a few thousand dead say, which is hard to see how Hamas, PIJ and Hezbollah can cause).

    The 2 real problems anyone opposed to Israel has yet to address is how can the IDF’s many military advantages in Gaza be undone (who exactly is able and willing to intervene with a ground army against the IDF in Gaza?) and that of AIPAC’s chokehold on American politics (and Jewish power in the USA more generally). The 2 are connected actually, as although Israel has its own sovereign military-industrial complex with its own heavy weapons systems, the supply of ammunition and munitions for Israel’s heavy weaponry almost entirely comes from American stocks.

    This is why I’m getting tired of seeing all these types thinking they can achieve much by “speaking truth to power” against Jews and that Israel’s demise is only a matter of being a few moments away, and all that. The proliferation of the imagery of wounded and dead civilians (especially babies and children) from Gaza may be even worse as it doesn’t do anything beyond making Israel look terrible and distressing anyone that doesn’t have the stomach and hardened heart to endure such scenes without breaking down.

  274. @AP
    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn't taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/politics/ndaa-defense-bill-what-is/index.html

    It's not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations. But this plus the $200 million recently given plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given should help Ukraine through January.

    LOL, if Haley becomes Trump's nominee that is a signal that he'll be good for Ukraine:



    https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1735778583342199281?s=20

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack, @A123

    I was watching TVP world the other night hosted by Rock Rachon. He had a military expert on that unambiguously stated that Biden has the ability to direct some 100 ATACM systems Ukraine’s way by merely signing a presidential directive to do so at any time going forward without any congressional approval or red tape because these systems have been deemed to be outdated. He said that giving any of them to Ukraine would be extremely cost effective as it would alleviate any costs that would be needed to otherwise fix these systems or to outright retire and destroy them. Do you have any thoughts or opinions about this or even know about this development?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    The Obama administration had been the most pro-Russian one in decades. Biden is better than Obama but has been far weaker on Russia than he could have been. In 2022, Congress enabled him to give far more for Ukraine than he has. Essentially, he has provided Ukraine with enough to prevent the Russians from winning but not enough to enable the Ukrainians to win. Thousands of Ukrainian lives would have been saved had Biden given Ukrainians what he was authorized to give.


    He had a military expert on that unambiguously stated that Biden has the ability to direct some 100 ATACM systems Ukraine’s way by merely signing a presidential directive to do so at any time going forward without any congressional approval or red tape because these systems have been deemed to be outdated.
     
    He was allowed to give them and could have given them before he summer offensive. Apparently, he grudgingly only provided 20 missiles eventually, which were used to excellent effect.

    The Matt Gaetz wing of the Republican party is even worse for Ukraine than Biden, but normal Republicans are much better. Trump is an unknown IMO; his choice of VP would be a good indictor of what direction he would go.

    He said that giving any of them to Ukraine would be extremely cost effective as it would alleviate any costs that would be needed to otherwise fix these systems or to outright retire and destroy them.
     
    Correct. Giving Ukraine these and more missile and equipment would cost America very little or nothing - just transportation cost, but the cost of destroying them would be subtracted from that. As I was trying to explain to Mikel (and he was ignoring) the equipment cost of US aid to Ukraine is not for the equipment itself but for replacing it with new equipment for America's own arsenal. That is, it is not money (or the value of equipment) sent to Ukraine but money used to improve and upgrade America's own military.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  275. @AP
    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn't taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/politics/ndaa-defense-bill-what-is/index.html

    It's not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations. But this plus the $200 million recently given plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given should help Ukraine through January.

    LOL, if Haley becomes Trump's nominee that is a signal that he'll be good for Ukraine:



    https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1735778583342199281?s=20

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack, @A123

    if Haley becomes Trump’s nominee that is a signal that he’ll be good for Ukraine:

    I too was thinking that this would be a good team, practically unbeatable. If this were to occur, poor, poor kremlnstoogeA123, he’ll most likely end up in a nursing home having to wear pampers for the rest of his life. 🙂

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Haley would be worse than Pence. I think Trump is just playing nice.

    How about RFK Jr or Rand Paul?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  276. @AnonfromTN
    @ShortOnTime


    Anyway, what’s more interesting is what really happened with the 2010 Smolensk plane crash of high level Polish visitors to Russia.
     
    New Polish government just admitted that their second commission falsified the results of the expertise to propose two mutually contradictory versions: 1) Russians shot that plane down; 2) the bomb exploded on that plane. The original explanation, that the plane was approaching the airfield too low in foggy conditions, which Russians endorsed, remains.

    This does not mean any impending rapprochement between Poland and the RF. Polish anti-Russian stance has much deeper root, which has manifested itself even before Napoleon: severe inferiority complex. People with this affliction never forgive anyone successful.

    Replies: @AP, @ShortOnTime

    Thanks for explaining some of the details of that murky plane crash.

    Otherwise, Poland-Russia enmity seems simply irreconcilable like so many other conflicts in the world. Especially with Ukraine currently, it’s a real tragedy since everyone’s positions have hardened too deeply for any happy endings (It looks like that for as long as Ukraine exists Russia won’t have solved the problem of the unforgiving Ukrainian nationalism aimed against it).

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @ShortOnTime

    SOT wrote:


    It looks like that for as long as Ukraine exists Russia won’t have solved the problem of the unforgiving Ukrainian nationalism aimed against it.
     
    I suspect one reason Russia is moving at a slow pace in the SMO is to allow time for the general Russian populace to embrace this idea. This is not the main reason for the pace of combat but is an important side effect as long as losses are not too high.

    In my view Ukrainian nationalism is only important military when it is empowered by the West as part of the greater push against Russia.
  277. By heavens, the various Eastern European hatreds are on full display here. and without even touching the former Yugoslavia.

    Just let me try to get this into all your thick skulls – there are plenty of reasons, on both sides, for your ancestral hatreds. But it’s not 1939, 1917 or even 1794.

    It’s 2023, and in the formerly mighty UK the steel industry (owned by China and India) is about to close its last blast furnaces, so it will only be able to make steel from scrap. The Prime Minister is a Brahmin Hindu, and the most popular name for baby boys is one of the many variants of Mohammed.

    All this in the seventy years since 1953.

    Let’s just say your damp dreams come true, Russia collapses, is dismembered and becomes wholly a plaything of US capital. Within seventy years, probably much sooner, Poland and the Baltic States will share the fate of Britain.

    Literally, Russia is your only hope until the US declines. As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive. The minute that need vanishes, they will be exposed to the full treatment – NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to and including trade sanctions, illegal entry sanctioned by young idealists, Angela Merkel on steroids.

    Poland and the Baltics will rapidly progress from

    “Don’t be so racist, there are are only a few of them, a tiny minority, what harm do they do?”

    to (several major riots later)

    “There are a hell of a lot of us, you’d better treat us fairly (or else)”

    and when it turns out that there are hardly any black airline pilots or nuclear physicists

    “Poland is racist”

    You lot are not only fighting the last war, you’re fighting the three or four before that!

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Literally, Russia is your only hope until the US declines. As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive. The minute that need vanishes, they will be exposed to the full treatment – NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to and including trade sanctions, illegal entry sanctioned by young idealists, Angela Merkel on steroids.

    You are saying that Russia is the only hope to keep illegals out of central Europe?

    You do realize that Putin has been dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?

    He was doing the same thing with Poland in 2021:
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/18/russia-belarus-poland-lithuiania-migrants-eu-weapon/

    Basically dumping Muslims at the border.

    Putin is a failed globalist. He would happily rule over a multi-racial and multi-religious central Europe. Just look at what he is doing to the former DPR:

    Putin imports over 100k Asians into former DPR:
    https://www.amren.com/news/2023/12/russia-imported-over-100000-asian-migrants-to-donbas-plans-to-create-cross-border-commonwealth/

    So he broke his promise to make DPR an independent Republic and is now moving in Asians to replace the dead Slavs that were sent to the front. This is the great hope that will save Poland? He wants the DPR to look like just another bastardized section of his globalist empire. His supporters will just flush his broken promise of the DPR down the memory hole.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @LatW
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Let’s just say your damp dreams come true, Russia collapses, is dismembered and becomes wholly a plaything of US capital.
     
    In the scenario of Russia's collapse and subsequent falling into less centralized regions, it's not a given that they will become somehow subservient to the US or even permeated by US capital. There could be some kind of a proliferation of strong men led autonomies. Only a few, such as maybe Ingria, would integrate with the West. But it would not be the Far West (for the lack of a better term), but the Eastern Euro / Northern Euro West which is a bit less crazy when it comes to accepting multi-culturalism. In fact, these new Russian populations could give us a boost there, as many of them do not want multiculturalism and dislike Russia's Islamization. In any event, St Pete is now full of Muslims - I didn't recognize it anymore.

    Within seventy years, probably much sooner, Poland and the Baltic States will share the fate of Britain.
     
    Only if they became like Britain - Britain has so much excess resources, so much capital, so much social cred still to this day, everyone speaks English. Although I don't like how London has changed. There is the old, timeless London, of course, the cultural and architectural background that will always be there - but the masses swarming there now... sigh.

    Poland and the Baltics will not be able to maintain expensive asylum systems where hundreds of thousands of people live off of welfare and just cruise through life aimlessly or build resentments towards the locals - that will be considered as a threat instead of producing excuses such as "oh but they used to be oppressed!". We don't identify as anybody's past overlords, the way the British are told to. The Poles might have this with Ukrainians, but that's not dangerous for them.

    It also remains to be seen if our population softens the way the Western one has. There is some softening, but there is still a large part of the population that care about how their environment looks and they are strict about who works and who doesn't, as well as other inter-racial related attitudes. Which now seem absent in the UK (except for the very upper classes).


    As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive.

     

    How so? If there is no longer threat from Russia, these countries will just breathe a sigh of relief and continue existing. There is not much investment there from the US (although there are finance connections - but that needs to be addressed separately), most investment is from the EU and Norway.
    This investment is guided by meticulous mathematical calculations rooted in productivity and economic trends. If there is peace, this will continue, since this is designed for long-term returns, with some investments projecting gains over the next 20 to 30 years. Not to mention that Poland is tied to Germany (and going forward even Lithuania will be to a larger extent than before due to the expected arrival of German troops).

    NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to
     
    I must disappoint you - these scum have been around for a long time already, since the 1990s. And, of course, have infiltrated the leading parties and tried to infiltrate the education system. Gosh, if you want to see Soros-style busy bodies, come to the Baltics, where they think they can lord it over the "backward natives". Or so it used to be 20 years ago, might have changed now. They may have trained a local class of woke dipshits who will perform their deeds for them.

    As to non-white migration, yes, it's a danger, but let's not rush - you are talking as if something really terrible has already happened. There is still an ideological struggle going on. The Bear-Slayer is still wrestling on the cliff with his adversary. :)

    It doesn't mean the current flows should not be managed strictly (ideally - stopped, except for the highly specialized). The current geopolitical context is also not the same as it was just a few years ago and maybe (hopefully) will become less conducive to mass non-white migration (and all the other types of insanity, that would be nice). I mean, the contradictions are clearly on display now. The Israel / Palestinian crisis just exacerbated it, brought it out in full light. This is good for us, nationalists. We need to be using this to our advantage.


    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.
     
    Didn't the big problems really start in late 1980s, early to mid 1990s?

    Well, Britain is a former world superpower, with many former subjects worldwide that it has chosen not to abandon (maybe wasn't the right idea, sorry - sometimes trying to be too good can backfire). The British economy is vast and intensive, very advanced and in constant need of more labor and skills. Ours is nowhere near to that, doubt it ever will be (although the Polish one combined with German might come close?), although we do have labor shortages now. But these are skilled labor or hard working and slightly underpaid menial labor shortages, not freeloader asylum seeker permanent welfare bum future street fighter, BLM wrecker type shortages.

    We don't have the grace of the British to spread the wealth around. The locals themselves still compete for resources (but that is changing slowly).


    A lot of people fought against the trashing of the country. They were physically attacked and in some cases killed, lawfare was waged against them, the security services published their members addresses.
     
    I do sympathize with the UK nationalists and have always really liked them. I liked their recent Armistice day rally. I'm aware how difficult is has been for them. It is scandalous to give power to non-British (I don't use the term "white British"). And it is scandalous - and in fact a betrayal of one's children - to sell off assets to China - I'm very strongly against this.

    I’m telling you that if Russia loses (and Poland/Baltics are therefore of no more use to the global elite) then you will share our fate.
     
    Can you explain in more detail how you tie this together, because I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, to no avail. I'm assuming you're looking for a large Eastern Euro Russia led bloc that will present as non woke and this will have a chilling effect on Western elites?

    Well, it may have seemed that way in the 1980s when there were huge masses of young Slavs but the current RusFedian ideology is not in line with some racial and cultural uniformity, since they are Islamifying and Sinofying their country at a fast rate. And, worse, trying to spread that Westwards.

    As to Poland/Balts not being useful to the global elite.... hm, not sure I get this one. First, they will always be useful due to their geographic location and all the previous investments that have been made there, with an economy that's growing more complex. The whole region is interconnected and with larger investment funds connected to that.

    Second, they exist on their own, even without "being useful to the global elite" - that's not what the population bases its survival and its ethos on. These are our native lands and native people. Even if the cities have always been slightly more cosmopolitan, the majority are native. Why would this change if the war in Ukraine stopped and if Russia retreated? No, we'd celebrate. If Russia retreats, they will just go back to where they were prior to 2022 (or 2014). That's how we lived prior to the war.


    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles – indeed more Polish than in 1939.
     
    Don''t know about Poles, but there would've been way more Balts if it hadn't been for the Russian domination, they ruined our baby boom years because they expelled hundreds of thousands of potential parents.

    I’d rather that in 50 years Poland was still Polish and the Baltic States still belonged to their people
     
    Yes, me too, but words are not enough. Btw, 50 years is not that long, and in 50 year (just two generations), I think they will still belong to the natives. But we need to ensure not just 50, but 500 years. And hopefully beyond that. When I think back to the people who lived in the Iron Age, I think of them as my people on their native land, and that was hundreds of years ago. The same kind of a projection should go into the future, for the future generations. The goal is to establish permanence, and, on an idealistic level, it seems we at least agree on this principle.

    Replies: @Coconuts

  278. (It looks like that for as long as Ukraine exists Russia won’t have solved the problem of the unforgiving Ukrainian nationalism aimed against it).

    Unforgiving Ukranian nationalism? That is what you call getting invaded?

    The UN voted 143-5 that Russia is the aggressor and the annexations are illegal. Delude yourself all you want but the world views the orc dwarf as the problem and not Ukraine.

    Russians are back to being viewed as the losers of Europe. They stuck with Communism even though by the mid 1920s it was clearly a stupid idea. Instead of simply admitting they had been duped by a single German-Jew and his murderous plans they put their heads down and allowed a tyrannical government to spread itself across Eastern Europe. Communism had been thoroughly debunked by economists in the 1960s and yet the Russians clutched their red flags out of spite. They stood by their evil empire even though it suppressed the proletariat and depended on imports from capitalist countries. Lower standards for everyone and the country became a giant prison where trying to escape could lead to execution. Revolution brothers!

    After the fall they could have built themselves into a modern country but instead let an insecure dwarf install himself as the Tsar. Now they make excuses for the dwarf as he sends their sons and husbands off to the trenches. As with Stalin they try to appeal to him directly as if he gives a flying f-ck about their problems. Pathetic.

    Russian woman talks to makeup brush about egg shortages

    “Sanctions won’t do anything, they can provide anything for themselves”

    – Ritter, MacGregor and every Unz pro-Putin blogger in 2022

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    It looks like inflation in the international dollar-based system may have raised food prices in various countries of the world. From what I can tell the inflation in Russian prices was delayed with respect to the West and is now catching up.

    The Russian woman explained the egg situation: the price of chicken meat is down, eggs are up. Hmm, I guess they culled the flock, maybe for disease as others here have discussed at length. This price linkage is a known pattern, assuming the culled chickens can be sold for meat.

  279. @YetAnotherAnon
    By heavens, the various Eastern European hatreds are on full display here. and without even touching the former Yugoslavia.

    Just let me try to get this into all your thick skulls - there are plenty of reasons, on both sides, for your ancestral hatreds. But it's not 1939, 1917 or even 1794.

    It's 2023, and in the formerly mighty UK the steel industry (owned by China and India) is about to close its last blast furnaces, so it will only be able to make steel from scrap. The Prime Minister is a Brahmin Hindu, and the most popular name for baby boys is one of the many variants of Mohammed.

    All this in the seventy years since 1953.

    Let's just say your damp dreams come true, Russia collapses, is dismembered and becomes wholly a plaything of US capital. Within seventy years, probably much sooner, Poland and the Baltic States will share the fate of Britain.

    Literally, Russia is your only hope until the US declines. As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive. The minute that need vanishes, they will be exposed to the full treatment - NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to and including trade sanctions, illegal entry sanctioned by young idealists, Angela Merkel on steroids.

    Poland and the Baltics will rapidly progress from

    "Don't be so racist, there are are only a few of them, a tiny minority, what harm do they do?"

    to (several major riots later)

    "There are a hell of a lot of us, you'd better treat us fairly (or else)"

    and when it turns out that there are hardly any black airline pilots or nuclear physicists

    "Poland is racist"

    You lot are not only fighting the last war, you're fighting the three or four before that!

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW

    Literally, Russia is your only hope until the US declines. As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive. The minute that need vanishes, they will be exposed to the full treatment – NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to and including trade sanctions, illegal entry sanctioned by young idealists, Angela Merkel on steroids.

    You are saying that Russia is the only hope to keep illegals out of central Europe?

    You do realize that Putin has been dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?

    He was doing the same thing with Poland in 2021:
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/18/russia-belarus-poland-lithuiania-migrants-eu-weapon/

    Basically dumping Muslims at the border.

    Putin is a failed globalist. He would happily rule over a multi-racial and multi-religious central Europe. Just look at what he is doing to the former DPR:

    Putin imports over 100k Asians into former DPR:
    https://www.amren.com/news/2023/12/russia-imported-over-100000-asian-migrants-to-donbas-plans-to-create-cross-border-commonwealth/

    So he broke his promise to make DPR an independent Republic and is now moving in Asians to replace the dead Slavs that were sent to the front. This is the great hope that will save Poland? He wants the DPR to look like just another bastardized section of his globalist empire. His supporters will just flush his broken promise of the DPR down the memory hole.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "You do realize that Putin has been dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?"

    I certainly do. All is fair in love and war, and Vlad is taking a leaf out of Rules For Radicals - "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

    "Basically dumping Muslims at the border."

    If you go to Helsinki, you'll actually see quite a few Pakistanis, although not as many as in Oslo, where the east half of the Norwegian capital is Muslim. V.S Naipaul explained it 42 years ago in this book:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Among_the_Believers


    The business was organized. Like accountants studying tax laws, the manpower-export experts of Pakistan studied the world’s immigration laws and competitively gambled with their emigrant battalions: visitor’s visas overstayable here (most European countries), dependants shippable there (England), student’s visas convertible there (Canada and the United States), political asylum to be asked for there (Austria and West Berlin), still no visas needed here, just below the Arctic Circle (Finland). They went by the planeload. Karachi airport was equipped for this emigrant traffic. Some got through; some were turned back…
     
    In any event, how does this address my point that only Russia can save Poland and the Baltic States from the fate of the UK (and also Ireland with its famously feisty population)?

    Replies: @LatW

  280. @AP
    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn't taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/politics/ndaa-defense-bill-what-is/index.html

    It's not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations. But this plus the $200 million recently given plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given should help Ukraine through January.

    LOL, if Haley becomes Trump's nominee that is a signal that he'll be good for Ukraine:



    https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1735778583342199281?s=20

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @Mr. Hack, @A123

    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn’t taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).

    So you do understand what a new appropriation is. Excellent. You are learning. Keep up the good work. I give credit where credit is due.

    The ask was $60B. The new appropriation was $0.3B. So the funding is 1/2 of 1% of the request. While this is mathematically above zero, it is not an impressive sum.

    This isn’t taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).

    How long does Pentagon procurement take to order new gear and receive it? Normally months at a minimum. Your assumption that the turnaround will be days to buy and weeks to deliver, is quite optimistic.

    plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given

    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the “minimum war reserve line” is quite restrictive. What is available? You previously commented on equipment book valued at millions actually worth about $1. Was it the M111 or M117? What makes you think the $4.4B will immediately deliver combat effective equipment?

    should help Ukraine through January.

    Negotiations restart in January. That implies a bill in February at the earliest.

    It’s not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations

    It is near certain that the $60B will be cut back heavily in a U.S. election year. And, this is already much lower versus ~$100B last year.

    Is not EU funding also down? IIRC last year was ~€90B, and this year’s negotiations are for ~€50B?

    Fundamentally, your position needs France and Germany to put in an ADDITIONAL €3-5B/month, on top of their piece of the EU package to make up for lower U.S. and EU contributions. Scholz has judiciary driven budget issues and Macron may be hit by a no confidence vote.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @A123

    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the “minimum war reserve line” is quite restrictive. What is available?

    The long range HIMARs rockets are still available. Zelensky has asked for them numerous times. There are also plenty of Strikers and Bradleys that could be donated. Thousands actually.

    Are you going to be disappointed if the Republicans make a deal on Ukraine? Would you rather see the border open than for Ukraine to get another weapons package?

    Replies: @A123

  281. @LatW
    @AP


    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine.
     
    Some funding is also trickling in from some Northern European countries.

    What is even more important is that the EU decided to start the accession talks (they kindly asked Orban to leave the room while they voted). This could signal that they are anticipating the creation of some kind of a serious deterrent - otherwise the Germans would not invest there long term. The security element is tied to this and will come later (remains to be seen in what institutional form).

    The question then is in what form are they anticipating to accept Ukraine (with what territory). I'm sure that they are well aware that the Ukrainian people will not accept an attempted legitimization of new borders (that come out of a partitioned Ukraine). So they are either anticipating a full win (and return to the borders of 1991, e.g., the actual internationally recognized border) or they are willing to leave this open (and just see what happens and then go from there).

    But, as I said, the Germans would not be making this kind of a commitment, if they were not convinced that security will be provided one way or the other. And this is a sign that the Europeans can act in a steadfast manner, if needed.

    Replies: @A123

    What is even more important is that the EU decided to start the accession talks (they kindly asked Orban to leave the room while they voted).

    It would be more accurate to state that they compensated Hungary not to veto the ascension talks by releasing over €10B of EU payments.

    Farming blocks have political power in EU countries, notably France. This has made Common Agricultural Policy [CAP] programmes untouchable since founding. Ukraine is among the largest farming countries on the world. How will Ukraine be integrated into the CAP?

    Hungary was willing to take the money to walk as they know that there are near insurmountable obstacles to Ukraine actually joining the EU. Remember that ascension talks do not guarantee acceptance, ask Türkiye. Future vetoes can still take place.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @LatW
    @A123


    This has made Common Agricultural Policy [CAP] programmes untouchable since founding. Ukraine is among the largest farming countries on the world. How will Ukraine be integrated into the CAP?
     
    It's true that this is one of the areas where the existing members will compete with Ukraine - it will be tackled later down the road and, yes, it will be laborious on both sides (it might be similar to how Poland fought for their subsidies during the accession, they kept everyone up until 1am during the Copenhagen summit). We are in an interesting spot where we are competing but we also need a more competitive agricultural industry, we need high quality food that is also not too expensive (since food prices have gone up so much). The danger is actually for Ukraine (that Western companies could take over their industries). We cannot yet envision how the common market will work, I think right now the key would be to help Ukraine prepare.

    Hungary was willing to take the money to walk as they know that there are near insurmountable obstacles to Ukraine actually joining the EU.
     
    Indeed, that was probably the most expensive walk to the restroom in the world history - although I'm not sure most Europeans like this display of blackmail... you can only do those things as much until everyone gets fed up with it, especially those members who do not practice such tactics. But still... the fact that Orban (and who ever stands behind him) fought so hard and so bitterly until the very end, shows that there is more to it. That this is significant.

    Remember that ascension talks do not guarantee acceptance, ask Türkiye.
     
    Turkey is not a European country. And Turkey became an autocracy (with Erdogan). Ukraine won't (as long as they remain free and retain most of their territory - however, they may be forced to become more authoritarian if they have to fight Russia alone). Let's be honest - Western Euros do not want more Turks, but they don't mind Ukrainians. Hungarians and Slovaks (who have issues with Ukrainians) will not matter in the big picture.

    Future vetoes can still take place.
     
    It will be a long journey. Personally, I don't feel there's a rush (unlike for defense matters). And there will be EU reforms along the way. Orban's example demonstrates that they are needed.
  282. @A123
    @AP


    The House provided another $300 million of military purchases for Ukraine. This isn’t taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).
     
    So you do understand what a new appropriation is. Excellent. You are learning. Keep up the good work. I give credit where credit is due.

    The ask was $60B. The new appropriation was $0.3B. So the funding is 1/2 of 1% of the request. While this is mathematically above zero, it is not an impressive sum.


    This isn’t taking weapons from US stockpiles but purchasing new items (presumably stuff like artillery shells).
     
    How long does Pentagon procurement take to order new gear and receive it? Normally months at a minimum. Your assumption that the turnaround will be days to buy and weeks to deliver, is quite optimistic.

    plus the $4.4 billion authorized but not yet given
     
    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the "minimum war reserve line" is quite restrictive. What is available? You previously commented on equipment book valued at millions actually worth about $1. Was it the M111 or M117? What makes you think the $4.4B will immediately deliver combat effective equipment?

    should help Ukraine through January.
     
    Negotiations restart in January. That implies a bill in February at the earliest.

    It’s not part of the $60 billion that is still in negotiations
     
    It is near certain that the $60B will be cut back heavily in a U.S. election year. And, this is already much lower versus ~$100B last year.

    Is not EU funding also down? IIRC last year was ~€90B, and this year's negotiations are for ~€50B?

    Fundamentally, your position needs France and Germany to put in an ADDITIONAL €3-5B/month, on top of their piece of the EU package to make up for lower U.S. and EU contributions. Scholz has judiciary driven budget issues and Macron may be hit by a no confidence vote.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the “minimum war reserve line” is quite restrictive. What is available?

    The long range HIMARs rockets are still available. Zelensky has asked for them numerous times. There are also plenty of Strikers and Bradleys that could be donated. Thousands actually.

    Are you going to be disappointed if the Republicans make a deal on Ukraine? Would you rather see the border open than for Ukraine to get another weapons package?

    • Replies: @A123
    @John Johnson

    How much of the $4.4B is earmarked for future Abrams tank deliveries? There may be much less allocation available than immediately apparent.



    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the “minimum war reserve line” is quite restrictive. What is available?

     

    The long range HIMARs rockets are still available. Zelensky has asked for them numerous times.
     
    And, Putin could "give" something with similar range to "Donbas irregulars" that can reach Poland & the Baltic states. The reason why they have not been sent is legitimate concern over escalation.

    There are also plenty of Strikers and Bradleys that could be donated. Thousands actually.
     
    Do they need more APC's? If so, yes these could be allocated. There may even be available stock already present in Europe. It sounds like a potentially decent workaround. Though, if it is that easy, why was it not done some time ago?

    Are you going to be disappointed if the Republicans make a deal on Ukraine? Would you rather see the border open than for Ukraine to get another weapons package?

     

    That level of zealous open border and pro-IRS intransigence is a different commenter here.

    Many times I have repeated the old adage
        -- Politics is the art of the possible. --

    It would take a good & enforceable deal. An outline like $50B for migration, $10B for Israel and Ukraine, could make sense. Reinstating Trump's Stay in Mexico policy is critical, and it needs a back stop that automatically ends Ukraine funding if the judiciary blocks the program.

    The Veggie-In-Chief's administration is barely deal capable at the best of times. In an election year, the internal scrum on that side will be even more fractious. It is more likely that near zero NEW money will reach the border, Israel, or Ukraine. Long-term, locked in deals will, of course, continue to operate.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

  283. @S
    This is a good eyewitness account of the Russian Civil War entitled Cursed Days; A Diary of Revolution by Ivan Bunin. The term 'civil war' seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    A similar 'civil war' in the United States would be primarily a war against the remnant organic identity of the Anglo-Saxons.

    https://archive.org/details/cursed-days-a-diary-of-revolu-bunin-ivan-alekseevich-1870-1/page/31/mode/1up

    'The last time I was in Petersburg was in early April ’17 . Then something unimaginable had just happened in the world. One of the very greatest countries on earth was thrown to the full whim of fate —and not just at any time but during a very great world war. The trenches still stretched for three thousand miles in the west, but they had already become simple pits.'

    'The deed was done, and in a way that was simply unprecedented and absurd. A power that had extended over three million miles, and that had comprised an armed horde, an army of millions of men, was transferred into the hands of “commissars,” of journalists such as SoboP and Yordansky.'

    'But more awesome was the fact that the magnificent, centuries-old life that had reigned throughout the entire great expanse of Russia was suddenly cut short and replaced by a bewildering existence, one that was rooted in a pointless, holidaylike atmosphere and in an unnatural abandonment of everything that human society had lived by.'
     

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    This is a good eyewitness account of the Russian Civil War entitled Cursed Days; A Diary of Revolution by Ivan Bunin. The term ‘civil war’ seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    It’s not a misnomer. A civil war did occur and with full scale battles involving millions of combatants across multiple countries:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

    The Russian Revolution was more than storming the Kremlin.

    Most of the Russian military chose to back the Communists and then rampaged in not just Russia but Ukraine, Belarus and other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1 and then went to war for 6 years against their own kind for the Reds. An extremely dysgenic civil war whereby anyone not wanting to be part of the revolution could just slip into Western Europe or head to the US. Basically anyone with talent that doesn’t buy into Marxist bullshit.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1
     
    An absurd lie you cretinous moron.

    other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

     

    Yuryev ( now Tartu) in Estonia was declared Bolshevik even before Saint Petersburg! Simply wrong to say majority Estonians and Latvians didn't want Communism. Much of the "nationalist" movements that resisted against the Communists ( who were fighting about 100 different wars at the same time) were Tsarist loyal Whites in these countries.

    Most of the "nationalist" fighting against the Soviets was funded by the western powers and organised by the Baltic German landowners in Estonia and Latvia.

    As is logical, you idiot - most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them - increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @John Johnson

    , @S
    @John Johnson



    The term ‘civil war’ seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.
     
    It’s not a misnomer. A civil war did occur and with full scale battles involving millions of combatants across multiple countries:
     
    I should have clarified.

    The term 'civil war' as it is presently defined is so vague as to border on being meaningless.

    The Spanish 'Civil War' and the Finnish 'Civil War' which are prominently featured at the Wiki entry on 'civil war', imo, would more accurately be called 'dialectical wars'.

    This would be in reference to the Capitalist vs Communist 'Hegelian dialectic' which has been at play globally since the respective proto-Capitalist and proto-Communist American and French revolutions of 1776 and 1789, and which many of these modern 'civil wars' and 'revolutions', with their 'foreign interventions', have often been a part, including the Russian Civil War of 1917-23.

    To elaborate, both Capitalism and it's complimentary sister ideology, Communism, the one with an artificial hyper-individualism, the other with a paralleling hyper-collectivism, are incomplete in and of themselves, and are each innately hostile to any organic identity a people might have, and indeed, war against it.

    Seemingly counter-intuitive, but it's not, each ideology seeks completeness via dialectical struggle and ultimate synthesis with it's opposition, ie Capitalism with Communism, and Communism with Capitalism, together forming Global Multi-Culturalism, just as they were designed to do from the time of their late 18th century inception over two hundred years ago.

    I know that's not how things are taught.

    But it should be! :-)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force,_Siberia

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/American_troops_in_Vladivostok_1918_HD-SN-99-02013.JPEG/800px-American_troops_in_Vladivostok_1918_HD-SN-99-02013.JPEG
  284. @LatW
    @Beckow


    with your denial of the Latvian WW2 Nazi SS Division
     
    SS was German built, that's like saying "Polish concentration camps". It's a German brand, so wouldn't want to appropriate. :)

    How many able bodied Slavs are there in Riga? Half a million?
     
    Assimilating slowly and enjoying life. The numbers changed a while back and are not what you assume. Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.

    Why don’t you celebrate it?
     
    It's not in our customs to "celebrate diversity" and such. We just stop by for friendly banter sometimes.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Beckow

    Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine

    Its a criminal offense if they support the invasion you dipshit – in public or private. Not clear if you are only talking about those “lucky” enough to not be non-citizens in the Nazi-loser state.

    It’s not in our customs to “celebrate diversity” and such

    LMAO – but you just have entire Russian,German and Jewish stuff all around you that made the country ……..but claim it as your own culture you demented moron!

    Plenty of diversity with your German-Jew President and American-homo PM ( or is that the FM?Where these freaks just replaced?……..I just don’t give a f**k about this non-entity of a country to look into it). No surprise this diversity for a cuckhold state.

  285. @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    if Haley becomes Trump’s nominee that is a signal that he’ll be good for Ukraine:
     
    I too was thinking that this would be a good team, practically unbeatable. If this were to occur, poor, poor kremlnstoogeA123, he'll most likely end up in a nursing home having to wear pampers for the rest of his life. :-)

    Replies: @QCIC

    Haley would be worse than Pence. I think Trump is just playing nice.

    How about RFK Jr or Rand Paul?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    The Trump/Pence divorce is final. RFK Jr is a wildcard that even his own party doesn't want to embrace. Rand Paul would be too contentious and could very possibly not be as supportive of Trump as would be needed, and would hinder the Republican party coming together (he's of another party, the Libertarian one).

    No, Nikki Haley would be the excellent choice. She'd obviously pull in the women's vote, has a very excellent resume and track record, has many allies within the Republican party, and could also add some intellectual luster to a team that often seems somewhat dull. And for dessert, she supports Ukraine, Trump could do a lot worse, and he knows it.

    Replies: @QCIC

  286. @ShortOnTime
    @AnonfromTN

    Thanks for explaining some of the details of that murky plane crash.

    Otherwise, Poland-Russia enmity seems simply irreconcilable like so many other conflicts in the world. Especially with Ukraine currently, it's a real tragedy since everyone's positions have hardened too deeply for any happy endings (It looks like that for as long as Ukraine exists Russia won't have solved the problem of the unforgiving Ukrainian nationalism aimed against it).

    Replies: @QCIC

    SOT wrote:

    It looks like that for as long as Ukraine exists Russia won’t have solved the problem of the unforgiving Ukrainian nationalism aimed against it.

    I suspect one reason Russia is moving at a slow pace in the SMO is to allow time for the general Russian populace to embrace this idea. This is not the main reason for the pace of combat but is an important side effect as long as losses are not too high.

    In my view Ukrainian nationalism is only important military when it is empowered by the West as part of the greater push against Russia.

  287. @John Johnson
    (It looks like that for as long as Ukraine exists Russia won’t have solved the problem of the unforgiving Ukrainian nationalism aimed against it).

    Unforgiving Ukranian nationalism? That is what you call getting invaded?

    The UN voted 143-5 that Russia is the aggressor and the annexations are illegal. Delude yourself all you want but the world views the orc dwarf as the problem and not Ukraine.

    Russians are back to being viewed as the losers of Europe. They stuck with Communism even though by the mid 1920s it was clearly a stupid idea. Instead of simply admitting they had been duped by a single German-Jew and his murderous plans they put their heads down and allowed a tyrannical government to spread itself across Eastern Europe. Communism had been thoroughly debunked by economists in the 1960s and yet the Russians clutched their red flags out of spite. They stood by their evil empire even though it suppressed the proletariat and depended on imports from capitalist countries. Lower standards for everyone and the country became a giant prison where trying to escape could lead to execution. Revolution brothers!

    After the fall they could have built themselves into a modern country but instead let an insecure dwarf install himself as the Tsar. Now they make excuses for the dwarf as he sends their sons and husbands off to the trenches. As with Stalin they try to appeal to him directly as if he gives a flying f-ck about their problems. Pathetic.

    Russian woman talks to makeup brush about egg shortages
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEcAYp0HSY

    "Sanctions won't do anything, they can provide anything for themselves"

    - Ritter, MacGregor and every Unz pro-Putin blogger in 2022

    Replies: @QCIC

    It looks like inflation in the international dollar-based system may have raised food prices in various countries of the world. From what I can tell the inflation in Russian prices was delayed with respect to the West and is now catching up.

    The Russian woman explained the egg situation: the price of chicken meat is down, eggs are up. Hmm, I guess they culled the flock, maybe for disease as others here have discussed at length. This price linkage is a known pattern, assuming the culled chickens can be sold for meat.

  288. @John Johnson
    @S

    This is a good eyewitness account of the Russian Civil War entitled Cursed Days; A Diary of Revolution by Ivan Bunin. The term ‘civil war’ seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    It's not a misnomer. A civil war did occur and with full scale battles involving millions of combatants across multiple countries:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

    The Russian Revolution was more than storming the Kremlin.

    Most of the Russian military chose to back the Communists and then rampaged in not just Russia but Ukraine, Belarus and other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1 and then went to war for 6 years against their own kind for the Reds. An extremely dysgenic civil war whereby anyone not wanting to be part of the revolution could just slip into Western Europe or head to the US. Basically anyone with talent that doesn't buy into Marxist bullshit.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @S

    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1

    An absurd lie you cretinous moron.

    other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

    Yuryev ( now Tartu) in Estonia was declared Bolshevik even before Saint Petersburg! Simply wrong to say majority Estonians and Latvians didn’t want Communism. Much of the “nationalist” movements that resisted against the Communists ( who were fighting about 100 different wars at the same time) were Tsarist loyal Whites in these countries.

    Most of the “nationalist” fighting against the Soviets was funded by the western powers and organised by the Baltic German landowners in Estonia and Latvia.

    As is logical, you idiot – most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them – increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Gerard1234


    ...most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them – increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .
     
    That was true in the other parts of Central-Eastern Europe. The morons raised on 'merican propaganda willfully deny what happened: in the first half of the 20th century socialist, communist, populist ideas were very popular among the people. Also true in Italy, France, UK. It was not outsiders stirring up trouble - it was very genuine popular anger and the deep desire to change the societies to finally live like humans. The level of oppression and tyranny was incomparable for most people to what happened in the 20th century - that is something that recent Western propaganda tries to suppress and replace with excesses in the revolutions. Of course you have excesses, people were pissed.

    This mass movement was eventually accommodated by giving the people most of what they wanted after WW2. The idea that the tiny elites would have given it without the fear of the masses, without the excesses of the revolutions is beyoynd naive. They gave in out of fear, trying to preserve as much of their status as they could. Now they are slowly taking it away.

    Latvians were among the first enthusiastic Bolsheviks. Now they lie and play some stupid game, bizarrely identify with their German overlords who treated them like sh..t for centuries. Well, they are rather strange people and they always end up regretting it. One can't help historical stupidity.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @LatW
    @Gerard1234


    most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless)
     
    They were not uneducated. Despite of segregation, they managed to educate themselves quite well. Which period are you talking about? Give the exact years. There were teacher seminaries in Kurland already in 1830s. In mid 19th cent, there were city gymnasiums. There was a whole class of intelligent Latvians and Estonians by then. I think the riflemen were more educated than an average Russian Empire person.
    , @John Johnson
    @Gerard1234


    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1

     

    An absurd lie you cretinous moron.

    So you would call giving into German demands to cede 30% of the Russian empire as winning?

    Brest-Litovsk was never negotiated. The Germans made their demands and Lenin accepted.

    other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.
     
    Yuryev ( now Tartu) in Estonia was declared Bolshevik even before Saint Petersburg! Simply wrong to say majority Estonians and Latvians didn’t want Communism.

    A Communist takeover is not evidence that a majority supported Communism.

    You are saying a majority of Estonians would have voted in Communists?

    Why did the Communists take the country in a coup if they had majority support?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_War_of_Independence
  289. @AP
    @Beckow


    I pointed out that your bread comparison was silly.
     
    You pointed out that American mass-produced bread is terrible. So?

    but your inability to see things in perspective, to understand that comparisons are relative and very imperfect is always there
     
    Of course they are imperfect. The point is that American (and German) breads are not $6.00 and are not much more pricy than breads in Moscow, which is while wealthy by Russian standards is still poorer than USA or Germany.

    In Montreal I wouldn’t do only bread, try their bagels – probably the best.
     
    They are proud of them, but Montreal bagels are not much better than what one can find in the Northeastern USA. The famous smoked meat store with the long lines is overrated IMO.

    The bread, pastries, cakes, etc. OTOH are much better, and cheaper.

    If anyone is reading this and going to Montreal, here is an excellent local chain:

    https://premieremoisson.com/en

    I was wrong about the bread price there, it isn't $3.00 Canadian but $5.00 Canadian ($3.75
    American) for a loaf.

    https://premieremoisson.com/en/products/bakery/white-breads/belgian-sourdough-bread

    Replies: @Beckow

    …but Montreal bagels are not much better than what one can find in the Northeastern USA.

    You have crossed the red line!…Montreal bagels are tastier, smaller, baked the old fashioned way. To say “not much better” is to miss the whole point of eating, one should aspire for the best.

    Most Americans have been eating what is basically manufactured garbage food for a few generations. It shows: fatness, lack of any shape, inflamed faces from too much food toxicity. It was a Faustian bargain in the mid-20th century to go for cheap, mass-produced food: survive and be happy on plentiful carbohydrates while slowly destroying the genetics.

    You will point out that there are exceptions, and that is correct: as in other areas Americans are split between the smart, comfortable, healthy minority and the mass of struggling survivors. The mass immigration from the Third World has made it much worse. In similar societies in the past, the masses eventually overwhelm the minority. When one travels around US there are whole areas that have gone into fatalistic eat-you-way-through-life sub-existence…the lack of style or any sense for public beauty doesn’t help.

    And old rule in the nature is that an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    Beckow wrote:


    "...an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does".
     
    This is a powerful quote and nicely encapsulates your disagreement with the others.

    AP is correct to point out there is still lots of great food in the USA (the oasis). You are correct to point out (effectively) that fewer and fewer people seem to be eating it (the desert). The best we can hope for is that some healthy unadulterated food will continue to be available for those that are willing to seek it out and pay for it.

    For humanity, one more general point of the quote is that expanding the "oasis" of civilization required vast amounts of intelligent creative thinking and hard work which were always fighting against nature. Nowadays many aspects of nature have been tamed, so the frontier is the fight against human nature.

    Replies: @AP

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    You have crossed the red line!…Montreal bagels are tastier, smaller, baked the old fashioned way. To say “not much better” is to miss the whole point of eating, one should aspire for the best.
     
    One can find those in the US, too. but rarely.

    However I was passionate about bagels. I prefer croissants and they are perfect in Montreal - no worse and perhaps even better than in France.

    You will point out that there are exceptions, and that is correct: as in other areas Americans are split between the smart, comfortable, healthy minority and the mass of struggling survivors.
     
    The poorer are doing okay too.

    The mass immigration from the Third World has made it much worse.
     
    Not really. There are good cheap Mexican options now, some of the Mexicans have figured out that there is a market for cheap food with fresh and real ingredients.

    And not all immigration has been third world. Asian immigration has meant good sushi. There are plenty of Eastern Europeans around here - so good cheeses, sausages, breads.

    And old rule in the nature is that an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does.
     
    You are wrong about the USA though. The middle has declined, but the both the top and the bottom have expanded. This has meant an expansion of proliferation of better grocery stores such as Wholefoods and better and fresher restaurants such as "fast casual" that are much better than garbage such as McDonalds probably comparable to cheap European chains.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  290. @John Johnson
    @A123

    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the “minimum war reserve line” is quite restrictive. What is available?

    The long range HIMARs rockets are still available. Zelensky has asked for them numerous times. There are also plenty of Strikers and Bradleys that could be donated. Thousands actually.

    Are you going to be disappointed if the Republicans make a deal on Ukraine? Would you rather see the border open than for Ukraine to get another weapons package?

    Replies: @A123

    How much of the $4.4B is earmarked for future Abrams tank deliveries? There may be much less allocation available than immediately apparent.

    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the “minimum war reserve line” is quite restrictive. What is available?

    The long range HIMARs rockets are still available. Zelensky has asked for them numerous times.

    And, Putin could “give” something with similar range to “Donbas irregulars” that can reach Poland & the Baltic states. The reason why they have not been sent is legitimate concern over escalation.

    There are also plenty of Strikers and Bradleys that could be donated. Thousands actually.

    Do they need more APC’s? If so, yes these could be allocated. There may even be available stock already present in Europe. It sounds like a potentially decent workaround. Though, if it is that easy, why was it not done some time ago?

    Are you going to be disappointed if the Republicans make a deal on Ukraine? Would you rather see the border open than for Ukraine to get another weapons package?

    That level of zealous open border and pro-IRS intransigence is a different commenter here.

    Many times I have repeated the old adage
        — Politics is the art of the possible.

    It would take a good & enforceable deal. An outline like $50B for migration, $10B for Israel and Ukraine, could make sense. Reinstating Trump’s Stay in Mexico policy is critical, and it needs a back stop that automatically ends Ukraine funding if the judiciary blocks the program.

    The Veggie-In-Chief’s administration is barely deal capable at the best of times. In an election year, the internal scrum on that side will be even more fractious. It is more likely that near zero NEW money will reach the border, Israel, or Ukraine. Long-term, locked in deals will, of course, continue to operate.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    I expect we will see a lot of blatantly shady deals from 'Team Biden' in 2024 as he heads for the door and the grave. Many of these will be accepted in exchange for slight support on more substantial issues. It may be the most sordid year in memory.

  291. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    I was watching TVP world the other night hosted by Rock Rachon. He had a military expert on that unambiguously stated that Biden has the ability to direct some 100 ATACM systems Ukraine's way by merely signing a presidential directive to do so at any time going forward without any congressional approval or red tape because these systems have been deemed to be outdated. He said that giving any of them to Ukraine would be extremely cost effective as it would alleviate any costs that would be needed to otherwise fix these systems or to outright retire and destroy them. Do you have any thoughts or opinions about this or even know about this development?

    Replies: @AP

    The Obama administration had been the most pro-Russian one in decades. Biden is better than Obama but has been far weaker on Russia than he could have been. In 2022, Congress enabled him to give far more for Ukraine than he has. Essentially, he has provided Ukraine with enough to prevent the Russians from winning but not enough to enable the Ukrainians to win. Thousands of Ukrainian lives would have been saved had Biden given Ukrainians what he was authorized to give.

    He had a military expert on that unambiguously stated that Biden has the ability to direct some 100 ATACM systems Ukraine’s way by merely signing a presidential directive to do so at any time going forward without any congressional approval or red tape because these systems have been deemed to be outdated.

    He was allowed to give them and could have given them before he summer offensive. Apparently, he grudgingly only provided 20 missiles eventually, which were used to excellent effect.

    The Matt Gaetz wing of the Republican party is even worse for Ukraine than Biden, but normal Republicans are much better. Trump is an unknown IMO; his choice of VP would be a good indictor of what direction he would go.

    He said that giving any of them to Ukraine would be extremely cost effective as it would alleviate any costs that would be needed to otherwise fix these systems or to outright retire and destroy them.

    Correct. Giving Ukraine these and more missile and equipment would cost America very little or nothing – just transportation cost, but the cost of destroying them would be subtracted from that. As I was trying to explain to Mikel (and he was ignoring) the equipment cost of US aid to Ukraine is not for the equipment itself but for replacing it with new equipment for America’s own arsenal. That is, it is not money (or the value of equipment) sent to Ukraine but money used to improve and upgrade America’s own military.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP


    He was allowed to give them and could have given them before he summer offensive. Apparently, he grudgingly only provided 20 missiles eventually, which were used to excellent effect.
     
    However, the remaining 80 could still be delivered at any time?
  292. @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1
     
    An absurd lie you cretinous moron.

    other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

     

    Yuryev ( now Tartu) in Estonia was declared Bolshevik even before Saint Petersburg! Simply wrong to say majority Estonians and Latvians didn't want Communism. Much of the "nationalist" movements that resisted against the Communists ( who were fighting about 100 different wars at the same time) were Tsarist loyal Whites in these countries.

    Most of the "nationalist" fighting against the Soviets was funded by the western powers and organised by the Baltic German landowners in Estonia and Latvia.

    As is logical, you idiot - most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them - increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @John Johnson

    …most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them – increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .

    That was true in the other parts of Central-Eastern Europe. The morons raised on ‘merican propaganda willfully deny what happened: in the first half of the 20th century socialist, communist, populist ideas were very popular among the people. Also true in Italy, France, UK. It was not outsiders stirring up trouble – it was very genuine popular anger and the deep desire to change the societies to finally live like humans. The level of oppression and tyranny was incomparable for most people to what happened in the 20th century – that is something that recent Western propaganda tries to suppress and replace with excesses in the revolutions. Of course you have excesses, people were pissed.

    This mass movement was eventually accommodated by giving the people most of what they wanted after WW2. The idea that the tiny elites would have given it without the fear of the masses, without the excesses of the revolutions is beyoynd naive. They gave in out of fear, trying to preserve as much of their status as they could. Now they are slowly taking it away.

    Latvians were among the first enthusiastic Bolsheviks. Now they lie and play some stupid game, bizarrely identify with their German overlords who treated them like sh..t for centuries. Well, they are rather strange people and they always end up regretting it. One can’t help historical stupidity.

    • Agree: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    Now they lie and play some stupid game
     
    Nobody lies, this is openly talked about - by historians, enthusiasts. All the newspapers from those days are still in the archives, one can read them any time. There are also movies made about WW1 that have these elements (war with Germans). It's just that Communism is not accepted because of the crimes that were committed later on. It doesn't mean there is no welfare.
  293. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN


    Most likely scenario is that he takes what he considers necessary (e.g., the whole Black sea coast) or inevitable (Russian-speaking East), and creates a puppet state in the remaining rump “Ukraine” (mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat). Policing will be important, returning to the fold won’t.
     
    Very ambitious.

    mostly to ensure that Poland gets diddly-squat
     
    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs (probably more).

    Replies: @Beckow, @AnonfromTN

    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs

    I applaud Western self-deception, parroted by the people afflicted by inferiority complex in the Baltic statelets. The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work. Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war. That scum behaves accordingly, which European residents feel and complain about, but the compradore European governments pretend not to notice.

    Decent residents of Ukraine willing to work do two things: stay put or move to Russia. As of today, there are more than 5 million Ukrainian refugees in Russia, where they get some assistance at the beginning, but then are expected to earn their keep. Maybe a few thousands of these are Ukrainian terrorists. FSB is dealing with those. The rest are normal decent people, a real human asset.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war. That scum behaves accordingly, which European residents feel and complain about, but the compradore European governments pretend not to notice.
     
    You're the only Ukrainian trash that I know of, bad mouthing your host country ad nauseum. The Ukrainian women and their children in Europe that I've known are all hard workers, willing to scrub floors and do whatever is needed to put some food on the table. Why don't you tell us some personal stories of yours regarding the "lazy scum" Ukrainians in Europe?
    , @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work. Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war
     
    Wrong as usual. The western and central Ukrainians largely returned home, and refugees in the West are mostly Russian-speakers from places like Kharkiv or Zaporizhia. They are viewed more negatively than the first wave of Ukrainians, who has been from the West and Center.
    , @LatW
    @AnonfromTN


    The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work.
     
    Last summer I was traveling along the Baltic coastline and we were driving around looking for a place to eat. Well, guess what? We found a cute little cafe that had just been set up by some Ukrainians. So quite a few of them work.

    The EU has definitely gotten a demographic boost with them. Hopefully, many can return, but some will stay. Poland's population is increasing.

    Replies: @Beckow

  294. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    The Obama administration had been the most pro-Russian one in decades. Biden is better than Obama but has been far weaker on Russia than he could have been. In 2022, Congress enabled him to give far more for Ukraine than he has. Essentially, he has provided Ukraine with enough to prevent the Russians from winning but not enough to enable the Ukrainians to win. Thousands of Ukrainian lives would have been saved had Biden given Ukrainians what he was authorized to give.


    He had a military expert on that unambiguously stated that Biden has the ability to direct some 100 ATACM systems Ukraine’s way by merely signing a presidential directive to do so at any time going forward without any congressional approval or red tape because these systems have been deemed to be outdated.
     
    He was allowed to give them and could have given them before he summer offensive. Apparently, he grudgingly only provided 20 missiles eventually, which were used to excellent effect.

    The Matt Gaetz wing of the Republican party is even worse for Ukraine than Biden, but normal Republicans are much better. Trump is an unknown IMO; his choice of VP would be a good indictor of what direction he would go.

    He said that giving any of them to Ukraine would be extremely cost effective as it would alleviate any costs that would be needed to otherwise fix these systems or to outright retire and destroy them.
     
    Correct. Giving Ukraine these and more missile and equipment would cost America very little or nothing - just transportation cost, but the cost of destroying them would be subtracted from that. As I was trying to explain to Mikel (and he was ignoring) the equipment cost of US aid to Ukraine is not for the equipment itself but for replacing it with new equipment for America's own arsenal. That is, it is not money (or the value of equipment) sent to Ukraine but money used to improve and upgrade America's own military.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    He was allowed to give them and could have given them before he summer offensive. Apparently, he grudgingly only provided 20 missiles eventually, which were used to excellent effect.

    However, the remaining 80 could still be delivered at any time?

  295. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...but Montreal bagels are not much better than what one can find in the Northeastern USA.
     
    You have crossed the red line!...Montreal bagels are tastier, smaller, baked the old fashioned way. To say "not much better" is to miss the whole point of eating, one should aspire for the best.

    Most Americans have been eating what is basically manufactured garbage food for a few generations. It shows: fatness, lack of any shape, inflamed faces from too much food toxicity. It was a Faustian bargain in the mid-20th century to go for cheap, mass-produced food: survive and be happy on plentiful carbohydrates while slowly destroying the genetics.

    You will point out that there are exceptions, and that is correct: as in other areas Americans are split between the smart, comfortable, healthy minority and the mass of struggling survivors. The mass immigration from the Third World has made it much worse. In similar societies in the past, the masses eventually overwhelm the minority. When one travels around US there are whole areas that have gone into fatalistic eat-you-way-through-life sub-existence...the lack of style or any sense for public beauty doesn't help.

    And old rule in the nature is that an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    Beckow wrote:

    “…an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does”.

    This is a powerful quote and nicely encapsulates your disagreement with the others.

    AP is correct to point out there is still lots of great food in the USA (the oasis). You are correct to point out (effectively) that fewer and fewer people seem to be eating it (the desert). The best we can hope for is that some healthy unadulterated food will continue to be available for those that are willing to seek it out and pay for it.

    For humanity, one more general point of the quote is that expanding the “oasis” of civilization required vast amounts of intelligent creative thinking and hard work which were always fighting against nature. Nowadays many aspects of nature have been tamed, so the frontier is the fight against human nature.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    AP is correct to point out there is still lots of great food in the USA (the oasis). You are correct to point out (effectively) that fewer and fewer people seem to be eating it (the desert).
     
    He is actually quite wrong about that. The rise of the upper middle class (it's probably around 20% or so of the American population now, used to be only around 10%) has meant an increase in better and healthier food in the country and expansion of areas that have such food. It has also forced traditionally bad places to improve their products a bit.

    This is from 2015 but the trend has not reversed:

    https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iC0OBt95bda0/v2/-1x-1.png

    The expansion in the number of grocery store chains such as Wholefoods, craft breweries, etc. that cater to this population tracks the expansion of this group of people.

    They are fairly well segregated from the poors, too.

    Replies: @QCIC

  296. @A123
    @John Johnson

    How much of the $4.4B is earmarked for future Abrams tank deliveries? There may be much less allocation available than immediately apparent.



    The requirement to take material off the shelf above the “minimum war reserve line” is quite restrictive. What is available?

     

    The long range HIMARs rockets are still available. Zelensky has asked for them numerous times.
     
    And, Putin could "give" something with similar range to "Donbas irregulars" that can reach Poland & the Baltic states. The reason why they have not been sent is legitimate concern over escalation.

    There are also plenty of Strikers and Bradleys that could be donated. Thousands actually.
     
    Do they need more APC's? If so, yes these could be allocated. There may even be available stock already present in Europe. It sounds like a potentially decent workaround. Though, if it is that easy, why was it not done some time ago?

    Are you going to be disappointed if the Republicans make a deal on Ukraine? Would you rather see the border open than for Ukraine to get another weapons package?

     

    That level of zealous open border and pro-IRS intransigence is a different commenter here.

    Many times I have repeated the old adage
        -- Politics is the art of the possible. --

    It would take a good & enforceable deal. An outline like $50B for migration, $10B for Israel and Ukraine, could make sense. Reinstating Trump's Stay in Mexico policy is critical, and it needs a back stop that automatically ends Ukraine funding if the judiciary blocks the program.

    The Veggie-In-Chief's administration is barely deal capable at the best of times. In an election year, the internal scrum on that side will be even more fractious. It is more likely that near zero NEW money will reach the border, Israel, or Ukraine. Long-term, locked in deals will, of course, continue to operate.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @QCIC

    I expect we will see a lot of blatantly shady deals from ‘Team Biden’ in 2024 as he heads for the door and the grave. Many of these will be accepted in exchange for slight support on more substantial issues. It may be the most sordid year in memory.

  297. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Haley would be worse than Pence. I think Trump is just playing nice.

    How about RFK Jr or Rand Paul?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The Trump/Pence divorce is final. RFK Jr is a wildcard that even his own party doesn’t want to embrace. Rand Paul would be too contentious and could very possibly not be as supportive of Trump as would be needed, and would hinder the Republican party coming together (he’s of another party, the Libertarian one).

    No, Nikki Haley would be the excellent choice. She’d obviously pull in the women’s vote, has a very excellent resume and track record, has many allies within the Republican party, and could also add some intellectual luster to a team that often seems somewhat dull. And for dessert, she supports Ukraine, Trump could do a lot worse, and he knows it.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    LOL

    Hack wrote


    Nikki Haley "adds intellectual luster" [to anything!?]
     
    Forgive me if I laugh out loud at all of your future comments :)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  298. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    The Trump/Pence divorce is final. RFK Jr is a wildcard that even his own party doesn't want to embrace. Rand Paul would be too contentious and could very possibly not be as supportive of Trump as would be needed, and would hinder the Republican party coming together (he's of another party, the Libertarian one).

    No, Nikki Haley would be the excellent choice. She'd obviously pull in the women's vote, has a very excellent resume and track record, has many allies within the Republican party, and could also add some intellectual luster to a team that often seems somewhat dull. And for dessert, she supports Ukraine, Trump could do a lot worse, and he knows it.

    Replies: @QCIC

    LOL

    Hack wrote

    Nikki Haley “adds intellectual luster” [to anything!?]

    Forgive me if I laugh out loud at all of your future comments 🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Forgive me if I laugh at your lack of knowledge:

    *graduate from Clemson University in 1994 with a BS degree in accounting and finance.
    *Governor of South Carolina from 2011 - 2017
    *US ambassador to the UN 2017 - 2018

    Her stances are intelligent and well reasoned including a prolife stance. tax reform and she has taken a very active role in supporting all sorts of conservative causes. If chosen as Trump's running mate and they win, at 53 she has plenty of time to gain more experience and then make her move up the latter to the next level.

    Does your resume even compare a little bit?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley

  299. @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs
     
    I applaud Western self-deception, parroted by the people afflicted by inferiority complex in the Baltic statelets. The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work. Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war. That scum behaves accordingly, which European residents feel and complain about, but the compradore European governments pretend not to notice.

    Decent residents of Ukraine willing to work do two things: stay put or move to Russia. As of today, there are more than 5 million Ukrainian refugees in Russia, where they get some assistance at the beginning, but then are expected to earn their keep. Maybe a few thousands of these are Ukrainian terrorists. FSB is dealing with those. The rest are normal decent people, a real human asset.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP, @LatW

    Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war. That scum behaves accordingly, which European residents feel and complain about, but the compradore European governments pretend not to notice.

    You’re the only Ukrainian trash that I know of, bad mouthing your host country ad nauseum. The Ukrainian women and their children in Europe that I’ve known are all hard workers, willing to scrub floors and do whatever is needed to put some food on the table. Why don’t you tell us some personal stories of yours regarding the “lazy scum” Ukrainians in Europe?

  300. Japanese are the ethnic group with the highest incidences of reversed-hemispheric brain activity, i.e. information from the right eye goes to the right side of the brain instead of the reverse (which is the usual way).

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I recall reading somewhere that the way that people rate an image can be significantly impacted by the direction one learns to read in. That it has to do at least partly with which direction the diagonal line follows, whether hard or only suggested by drawing one over elements in the frame.

    I would think that it would also impact film. I recall that in the movie The 13th Warrior, in the editing process, they ran one shot backwards, to change the direction the camera panned in, to make it visually more pleasing.

    But strange to say, I have never really perceived any difference in watching Japanese films. But perhaps, it is because I don't have a good eye for details.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  301. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...but Montreal bagels are not much better than what one can find in the Northeastern USA.
     
    You have crossed the red line!...Montreal bagels are tastier, smaller, baked the old fashioned way. To say "not much better" is to miss the whole point of eating, one should aspire for the best.

    Most Americans have been eating what is basically manufactured garbage food for a few generations. It shows: fatness, lack of any shape, inflamed faces from too much food toxicity. It was a Faustian bargain in the mid-20th century to go for cheap, mass-produced food: survive and be happy on plentiful carbohydrates while slowly destroying the genetics.

    You will point out that there are exceptions, and that is correct: as in other areas Americans are split between the smart, comfortable, healthy minority and the mass of struggling survivors. The mass immigration from the Third World has made it much worse. In similar societies in the past, the masses eventually overwhelm the minority. When one travels around US there are whole areas that have gone into fatalistic eat-you-way-through-life sub-existence...the lack of style or any sense for public beauty doesn't help.

    And old rule in the nature is that an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    You have crossed the red line!…Montreal bagels are tastier, smaller, baked the old fashioned way. To say “not much better” is to miss the whole point of eating, one should aspire for the best.

    One can find those in the US, too. but rarely.

    However I was passionate about bagels. I prefer croissants and they are perfect in Montreal – no worse and perhaps even better than in France.

    You will point out that there are exceptions, and that is correct: as in other areas Americans are split between the smart, comfortable, healthy minority and the mass of struggling survivors.

    The poorer are doing okay too.

    The mass immigration from the Third World has made it much worse.

    Not really. There are good cheap Mexican options now, some of the Mexicans have figured out that there is a market for cheap food with fresh and real ingredients.

    And not all immigration has been third world. Asian immigration has meant good sushi. There are plenty of Eastern Europeans around here – so good cheeses, sausages, breads.

    And old rule in the nature is that an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does.

    You are wrong about the USA though. The middle has declined, but the both the top and the bottom have expanded. This has meant an expansion of proliferation of better grocery stores such as Wholefoods and better and fresher restaurants such as “fast casual” that are much better than garbage such as McDonalds probably comparable to cheap European chains.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    McDonald's doesn't strike me as being garbage, does it? Heck, it appears that the documentary film SuperSize Me's conclusions failed to replicate:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/03/supersize-me-failed-replication-well-sort-of/

    I don't deny that Chick Fil-A, In-N-Out, et cetera are tastier relative to McDonald's; I just wouldn't consider McDonald's to be garbage.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  302. @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs
     
    I applaud Western self-deception, parroted by the people afflicted by inferiority complex in the Baltic statelets. The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work. Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war. That scum behaves accordingly, which European residents feel and complain about, but the compradore European governments pretend not to notice.

    Decent residents of Ukraine willing to work do two things: stay put or move to Russia. As of today, there are more than 5 million Ukrainian refugees in Russia, where they get some assistance at the beginning, but then are expected to earn their keep. Maybe a few thousands of these are Ukrainian terrorists. FSB is dealing with those. The rest are normal decent people, a real human asset.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP, @LatW

    The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work. Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war

    Wrong as usual. The western and central Ukrainians largely returned home, and refugees in the West are mostly Russian-speakers from places like Kharkiv or Zaporizhia. They are viewed more negatively than the first wave of Ukrainians, who has been from the West and Center.

  303. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    LOL

    Hack wrote


    Nikki Haley "adds intellectual luster" [to anything!?]
     
    Forgive me if I laugh out loud at all of your future comments :)

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Forgive me if I laugh at your lack of knowledge:

    *graduate from Clemson University in 1994 with a BS degree in accounting and finance.
    *Governor of South Carolina from 2011 – 2017
    *US ambassador to the UN 2017 – 2018

    Her stances are intelligent and well reasoned including a prolife stance. tax reform and she has taken a very active role in supporting all sorts of conservative causes. If chosen as Trump’s running mate and they win, at 53 she has plenty of time to gain more experience and then make her move up the latter to the next level.

    Does your resume even compare a little bit?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley

    • LOL: QCIC
  304. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    Beckow wrote:


    "...an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does".
     
    This is a powerful quote and nicely encapsulates your disagreement with the others.

    AP is correct to point out there is still lots of great food in the USA (the oasis). You are correct to point out (effectively) that fewer and fewer people seem to be eating it (the desert). The best we can hope for is that some healthy unadulterated food will continue to be available for those that are willing to seek it out and pay for it.

    For humanity, one more general point of the quote is that expanding the "oasis" of civilization required vast amounts of intelligent creative thinking and hard work which were always fighting against nature. Nowadays many aspects of nature have been tamed, so the frontier is the fight against human nature.

    Replies: @AP

    AP is correct to point out there is still lots of great food in the USA (the oasis). You are correct to point out (effectively) that fewer and fewer people seem to be eating it (the desert).

    He is actually quite wrong about that. The rise of the upper middle class (it’s probably around 20% or so of the American population now, used to be only around 10%) has meant an increase in better and healthier food in the country and expansion of areas that have such food. It has also forced traditionally bad places to improve their products a bit.

    This is from 2015 but the trend has not reversed:

    The expansion in the number of grocery store chains such as Wholefoods, craft breweries, etc. that cater to this population tracks the expansion of this group of people.

    They are fairly well segregated from the poors, too.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years. The food is edible for the most part but quality is mediocre. In some places there are still many good real restaurants but the prices are increasing relative to incomes, while quality is slipping. The number of processed/industrial food items in the supermarket seems to be growing faster than the quantity of simple good healthy items.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small. Then quality degraded as the chain expanded, expenses and profit margins both went up while they drove out competition. Then they degraded further when Amazon bought them. Over many years the store gradually dropped a lot of organic products and it was sometimes possible to do better in a regular supermarket. They may have corrected this to some degree. In a previous exchange you mentioned their bread. In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

  305. @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    Poland has already gotten a million able bodied new Slavs
     
    I applaud Western self-deception, parroted by the people afflicted by inferiority complex in the Baltic statelets. The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work. Most of that trash is from areas where there is no war. That scum behaves accordingly, which European residents feel and complain about, but the compradore European governments pretend not to notice.

    Decent residents of Ukraine willing to work do two things: stay put or move to Russia. As of today, there are more than 5 million Ukrainian refugees in Russia, where they get some assistance at the beginning, but then are expected to earn their keep. Maybe a few thousands of these are Ukrainian terrorists. FSB is dealing with those. The rest are normal decent people, a real human asset.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @AP, @LatW

    The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work.

    Last summer I was traveling along the Baltic coastline and we were driving around looking for a place to eat. Well, guess what? We found a cute little cafe that had just been set up by some Ukrainians. So quite a few of them work.

    The EU has definitely gotten a demographic boost with them. Hopefully, many can return, but some will stay. Poland’s population is increasing.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW

    They are industrious those Ukies...I will tell you how it works: hundreds of millions funded by EU helps Ukies set up "businesses". Anyone with half a brain will take the money and open a "cafe" - it is paid for and they get to skim the profits.

    We have a "liquor bar" on one of our main streets with very suggestive sharp red lights. It is run by Ukie women who seem too drunk to run anything, and there is never anyone there - the drink is like if you would squeeze water out of leftover manure. The loans will not be paid, naturally. Do you think that is a legitimate "business"?

    Local Euro citizens don't have those opportunities - but they pay for it with taxes. Brussels does it to create an image that "Ukies are working!", but we see the numbers, they cost us a few billion in support each month. It is basically charity by another name.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  306. @LatW
    @Beckow


    with your denial of the Latvian WW2 Nazi SS Division
     
    SS was German built, that's like saying "Polish concentration camps". It's a German brand, so wouldn't want to appropriate. :)

    How many able bodied Slavs are there in Riga? Half a million?
     
    Assimilating slowly and enjoying life. The numbers changed a while back and are not what you assume. Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.

    Why don’t you celebrate it?
     
    It's not in our customs to "celebrate diversity" and such. We just stop by for friendly banter sometimes.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Beckow

    Latvian SS was German built

    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS. But even that you couldn’t do by yourself, the servitude to Germans seems to be in the Latvian blood.

    There were no Poles as guards in the concentration camps – but the Ukies were there. Poles to their credit didn’t collaborate – maybe most were not given the option. Donald Tusk’s grandfather was in SS, he was probably “Aryan” enough…Most Poles were mercilessly slaughtered until Russian saved them. Poles forgot who was killing them, but will never forgive the Russians for putting a stop to it. As they say “chujova rasa”…

    Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.

    As you Latvians condemn the “imperialists” under the commies, and before that the “Bolsheviks” under the Germans…it is called human nature. Why do you take it seriously only when it suits you?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS.
     
    I've already repeated to you over and over - there was a mobilization. The punishment for evading the mobilization was death. This was late in the war, when Germans lacked troops, thus they had these measures. This was illegal and a crime against my nation (since they took the best boys). The Legion consists of those who joined voluntarily - however, I have issues with this word, because the Germans deliberately used it to pretend as it it was voluntary - how voluntary is it when someone joins just because they don't want to have the Bolshevik terror to return to their lands? There is nothing voluntary about it. And then there was a forced, massive mobilization of Latvian men into the Legion. I have to look up what the proportion was between voluntary and mobilized (don't remember from the top of my head).

    I've told you this basic historic fact many times, yet you stubbornly repeat lies.

    Fun fact - apparently the Latvian Legionaries were guards at the Nuremberg trial? So they were trust enough for that. :)


    As you Latvians condemn the “imperialists” under the commies
     
    Wrong, large swaths of Latvians were anti-Communist even during the Communist times. In the mid to late 1980s they openly made fun of the Soviet power, everyone was listening to "imperialist" music. Most Balts never bought the Soviet idea. Are you seriously going to try to lie about this?

    You deliberately conflate the turbulent times of the Civil War with later periods. The period of the Civil War was very specific, because of the reasons you already listed (fight against the ancien regime). It doesn't mean people were going to accept Communist tyranny. And above all - tyranny of foreigners against which they originally fought (when many joined leftists in the early 20th cent).


    before that the “Bolsheviks” under the Germans
     
    No, the Bolsheviks were hated because they were torturing and killing our relatives. That happened way before the Germans even arrived. You know this and you still lie. Wow, you just can't help yourself.

    As to most Russophones in the Baltics being somewhat loyal - yes, they are. Not entirely but large numbers of them are quite loyal. And some of them even condemn the Russian invasion. Why, would you have preferred that they were stupid enough to destroy their own homes by screaming for Putin's troops to arrive? They saw what happened in Donbas.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    Donald Tusk’s grandfather was in SS,
     
    Beckow lying as usual.

    His grandfather was conscripted into the Wehrmacht.

    the servitude to Germans seems to be in the Latvian blood.
     
    Slovaks taking about someone else's servitude?

    Has anyone historically been more servile than Slovaks? You yourself routinely argue that servitude is a virtue, and that resistance is stupid. Slovaks quietly and obediently served the Hungarian masters for centuries. Not many rebellion or revolts. Then after a brief break they obediently served the Nazis, and after that quietly served the Communists. Are you having an existential crisis now - unsure of whether to serve Putin or Orban more?

    Latvians allied with the Germans because Stalin killed many of them first. Understandable - like Jews allying with Stalin. For each one, there was a clear lesser evil. Slovaks allied with Hitler for opportunistic reasons. Slovaks even paid to have their Jews killed.

    Replies: @Beckow

  307. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    Japanese are the ethnic group with the highest incidences of reversed-hemispheric brain activity, i.e. information from the right eye goes to the right side of the brain instead of the reverse (which is the usual way).

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmQxhOt5mF0c4SXad_g9zbQPlGm9k3JvHN6w&usqp.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

    I recall reading somewhere that the way that people rate an image can be significantly impacted by the direction one learns to read in. That it has to do at least partly with which direction the diagonal line follows, whether hard or only suggested by drawing one over elements in the frame.

    I would think that it would also impact film. I recall that in the movie The 13th Warrior, in the editing process, they ran one shot backwards, to change the direction the camera panned in, to make it visually more pleasing.

    But strange to say, I have never really perceived any difference in watching Japanese films. But perhaps, it is because I don’t have a good eye for details.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    https://www.amazon.com/Command-Look-Master-Photographer%C2%92s-Controlling/dp/1627310010

    This is the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd text required for newbies in Church of Satan and Temple of Set.

  308. @Beckow
    @Gerard1234


    ...most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them – increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .
     
    That was true in the other parts of Central-Eastern Europe. The morons raised on 'merican propaganda willfully deny what happened: in the first half of the 20th century socialist, communist, populist ideas were very popular among the people. Also true in Italy, France, UK. It was not outsiders stirring up trouble - it was very genuine popular anger and the deep desire to change the societies to finally live like humans. The level of oppression and tyranny was incomparable for most people to what happened in the 20th century - that is something that recent Western propaganda tries to suppress and replace with excesses in the revolutions. Of course you have excesses, people were pissed.

    This mass movement was eventually accommodated by giving the people most of what they wanted after WW2. The idea that the tiny elites would have given it without the fear of the masses, without the excesses of the revolutions is beyoynd naive. They gave in out of fear, trying to preserve as much of their status as they could. Now they are slowly taking it away.

    Latvians were among the first enthusiastic Bolsheviks. Now they lie and play some stupid game, bizarrely identify with their German overlords who treated them like sh..t for centuries. Well, they are rather strange people and they always end up regretting it. One can't help historical stupidity.

    Replies: @LatW

    Now they lie and play some stupid game

    Nobody lies, this is openly talked about – by historians, enthusiasts. All the newspapers from those days are still in the archives, one can read them any time. There are also movies made about WW1 that have these elements (war with Germans). It’s just that Communism is not accepted because of the crimes that were committed later on. It doesn’t mean there is no welfare.

  309. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN


    The EU mostly gets from Ukraine lazy scum looking for freebies and unwilling to work.
     
    Last summer I was traveling along the Baltic coastline and we were driving around looking for a place to eat. Well, guess what? We found a cute little cafe that had just been set up by some Ukrainians. So quite a few of them work.

    The EU has definitely gotten a demographic boost with them. Hopefully, many can return, but some will stay. Poland's population is increasing.

    Replies: @Beckow

    They are industrious those Ukies…I will tell you how it works: hundreds of millions funded by EU helps Ukies set up “businesses”. Anyone with half a brain will take the money and open a “cafe” – it is paid for and they get to skim the profits.

    We have a “liquor bar” on one of our main streets with very suggestive sharp red lights. It is run by Ukie women who seem too drunk to run anything, and there is never anyone there – the drink is like if you would squeeze water out of leftover manure. The loans will not be paid, naturally. Do you think that is a legitimate “business”?

    Local Euro citizens don’t have those opportunities – but they pay for it with taxes. Brussels does it to create an image that “Ukies are working!”, but we see the numbers, they cost us a few billion in support each month. It is basically charity by another name.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Anyone with half a brain will take the money and open a “cafe” – it is paid for and they get to skim the profits.
     
    Profits are by definition what's left over after all the costs associated with producing the goods and services are paid for to be used by the owners as they wish. Is it somehow different in Slovakia? I'm surprised that a financial genius like you doesn't understand this?

    We have a “liquor bar” on one of our main streets with very suggestive sharp red lights. It is run by Ukie women who seem too drunk to run anything, and there is never anyone there.
     
    Bring your own palinka with you the next time you pay them a visit. I bet that the girls there are gorgeous, not like the Mexican chickitas that disappointed you so much, just be careful that your wife doesn't find out!

    Replies: @Beckow

  310. @Beckow
    @LatW


    Latvian SS was German built
     
    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS. But even that you couldn't do by yourself, the servitude to Germans seems to be in the Latvian blood.

    There were no Poles as guards in the concentration camps - but the Ukies were there. Poles to their credit didn't collaborate - maybe most were not given the option. Donald Tusk's grandfather was in SS, he was probably "Aryan" enough...Most Poles were mercilessly slaughtered until Russian saved them. Poles forgot who was killing them, but will never forgive the Russians for putting a stop to it. As they say "chujova rasa"...


    Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.
     
    As you Latvians condemn the "imperialists" under the commies, and before that the "Bolsheviks" under the Germans...it is called human nature. Why do you take it seriously only when it suits you?

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS.

    I’ve already repeated to you over and over – there was a mobilization. The punishment for evading the mobilization was death. This was late in the war, when Germans lacked troops, thus they had these measures. This was illegal and a crime against my nation (since they took the best boys). The Legion consists of those who joined voluntarily – however, I have issues with this word, because the Germans deliberately used it to pretend as it it was voluntary – how voluntary is it when someone joins just because they don’t want to have the Bolshevik terror to return to their lands? There is nothing voluntary about it. And then there was a forced, massive mobilization of Latvian men into the Legion. I have to look up what the proportion was between voluntary and mobilized (don’t remember from the top of my head).

    I’ve told you this basic historic fact many times, yet you stubbornly repeat lies.

    Fun fact – apparently the Latvian Legionaries were guards at the Nuremberg trial? So they were trust enough for that. 🙂

    As you Latvians condemn the “imperialists” under the commies

    Wrong, large swaths of Latvians were anti-Communist even during the Communist times. In the mid to late 1980s they openly made fun of the Soviet power, everyone was listening to “imperialist” music. Most Balts never bought the Soviet idea. Are you seriously going to try to lie about this?

    You deliberately conflate the turbulent times of the Civil War with later periods. The period of the Civil War was very specific, because of the reasons you already listed (fight against the ancien regime). It doesn’t mean people were going to accept Communist tyranny. And above all – tyranny of foreigners against which they originally fought (when many joined leftists in the early 20th cent).

    before that the “Bolsheviks” under the Germans

    No, the Bolsheviks were hated because they were torturing and killing our relatives. That happened way before the Germans even arrived. You know this and you still lie. Wow, you just can’t help yourself.

    As to most Russophones in the Baltics being somewhat loyal – yes, they are. Not entirely but large numbers of them are quite loyal. And some of them even condemn the Russian invasion. Why, would you have preferred that they were stupid enough to destroy their own homes by screaming for Putin’s troops to arrive? They saw what happened in Donbas.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @LatW

    See what I mean? In LatW world it's always 1941.

    No matter what unpleasantness took place in those years and up to WW1 (and there were many), when the Soviet Union broke up Latvia was still mainly populated by Letts, Poland by Poles, Estonia by Estonians.

    You people are like a man walking along a motorway backwards, looking where you've been, cursing the driver who killed your grandfather 35 years ago - as the sixteen wheel HGV rapidly approaches.

    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren't British.

    You lot can still save yourselves. But I'm not at all sure you will.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP, @Europe Europa

    , @Beckow
    @LatW


    This was late in the war, when Germans lacked troops, thus they had these measures.

     

    Why do you mislead so blatantly? Late in the war? It was formed in February 1943. In 1941-42, Latvian militias murdered 100k people, mostly Jews in the forests outside of Riga. The Division was called Volunteer...see wiki:

    Latvian SS-Volunteer Division was an infantry division of the Waffen-SS during World War II. It was formed in February 1943, and together with its sister unit, the 19th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (2nd Latvian) formed the Latvian Legion.


    mid to late 1980s they openly made fun of the Soviet power, everyone was listening to “imperialist” music. Most Balts never bought the Soviet idea...
     
    Late 80's is your benchmark? By the late 80's literally everybody in SU was making fun of the commies. For 35 years after WW2 the Latvians were as commie as any other nation in the SU - they had people in top positions in Moscow and the Latvian commies run Latvia, quite the heroes you were...and nobody banned Latvian language or culture as you do now to Russians.

    conflate the turbulent times of the Civil War with later periods. The period of the Civil War was very specific, because of the reasons you already listed fight against the ancien regime
     
    I don't conflate it. But specifically with the Bolsheviks coming to power, it was the Latvians who acted as one of the main armed forces for the Bolshies and Latvia had the highest pro-Bolshevik vote...there are always "reasons", but it simply is not true that Latvians were anti-Boshevik at that time. Russians could equally turn on you and blame the Latvians for Bolshevism.

    Bolsheviks were hated because they were torturing and killing our relatives
     
    Before that in the 1930's Latvia was a dictatorship that imprisoned, killed and tortured leftists, socialists and commies. What goes around comes around. If you don't want to be oppressed, don't oppress others.

    I don't think one can make any firm statement about attitudes in the middle of the war hysteria. We don't know what the Russo-phones think, and for how long they will think it. What we do know is that Latvia is not an open society where dissident views are allowed. And that's a shame for an EU country.

    Replies: @LatW

  311. @John Johnson
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Literally, Russia is your only hope until the US declines. As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive. The minute that need vanishes, they will be exposed to the full treatment – NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to and including trade sanctions, illegal entry sanctioned by young idealists, Angela Merkel on steroids.

    You are saying that Russia is the only hope to keep illegals out of central Europe?

    You do realize that Putin has been dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?

    He was doing the same thing with Poland in 2021:
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/18/russia-belarus-poland-lithuiania-migrants-eu-weapon/

    Basically dumping Muslims at the border.

    Putin is a failed globalist. He would happily rule over a multi-racial and multi-religious central Europe. Just look at what he is doing to the former DPR:

    Putin imports over 100k Asians into former DPR:
    https://www.amren.com/news/2023/12/russia-imported-over-100000-asian-migrants-to-donbas-plans-to-create-cross-border-commonwealth/

    So he broke his promise to make DPR an independent Republic and is now moving in Asians to replace the dead Slavs that were sent to the front. This is the great hope that will save Poland? He wants the DPR to look like just another bastardized section of his globalist empire. His supporters will just flush his broken promise of the DPR down the memory hole.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “You do realize that Putin has been dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?”

    I certainly do. All is fair in love and war, and Vlad is taking a leaf out of Rules For Radicals – “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

    “Basically dumping Muslims at the border.”

    If you go to Helsinki, you’ll actually see quite a few Pakistanis, although not as many as in Oslo, where the east half of the Norwegian capital is Muslim. V.S Naipaul explained it 42 years ago in this book:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Among_the_Believers

    The business was organized. Like accountants studying tax laws, the manpower-export experts of Pakistan studied the world’s immigration laws and competitively gambled with their emigrant battalions: visitor’s visas overstayable here (most European countries), dependants shippable there (England), student’s visas convertible there (Canada and the United States), political asylum to be asked for there (Austria and West Berlin), still no visas needed here, just below the Arctic Circle (Finland). They went by the planeload. Karachi airport was equipped for this emigrant traffic. Some got through; some were turned back…

    In any event, how does this address my point that only Russia can save Poland and the Baltic States from the fate of the UK (and also Ireland with its famously feisty population)?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @YetAnotherAnon

    only Russia can save Poland and the Baltic States from the fate of the UK?

    How so? You assume Poland and the Baltics do not have their own immigration and asylum policy which differs from that of the crazy Western one? You do realize that by fighting Russia's hybrid war on the border, Poland and the Baltics are simultaneously closing entry to migrants? Some even want to mine the border.

  312. I don’t really know the Wonder Woman comic book canon, but I wonder why there are so many black women on Paradise Island in the movies.

    Are they the slaves of the Amazons? Is it part of some migration corridor to Europe, like Lampedusa, even though the island is invisible or something?

  313. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS.
     
    I've already repeated to you over and over - there was a mobilization. The punishment for evading the mobilization was death. This was late in the war, when Germans lacked troops, thus they had these measures. This was illegal and a crime against my nation (since they took the best boys). The Legion consists of those who joined voluntarily - however, I have issues with this word, because the Germans deliberately used it to pretend as it it was voluntary - how voluntary is it when someone joins just because they don't want to have the Bolshevik terror to return to their lands? There is nothing voluntary about it. And then there was a forced, massive mobilization of Latvian men into the Legion. I have to look up what the proportion was between voluntary and mobilized (don't remember from the top of my head).

    I've told you this basic historic fact many times, yet you stubbornly repeat lies.

    Fun fact - apparently the Latvian Legionaries were guards at the Nuremberg trial? So they were trust enough for that. :)


    As you Latvians condemn the “imperialists” under the commies
     
    Wrong, large swaths of Latvians were anti-Communist even during the Communist times. In the mid to late 1980s they openly made fun of the Soviet power, everyone was listening to "imperialist" music. Most Balts never bought the Soviet idea. Are you seriously going to try to lie about this?

    You deliberately conflate the turbulent times of the Civil War with later periods. The period of the Civil War was very specific, because of the reasons you already listed (fight against the ancien regime). It doesn't mean people were going to accept Communist tyranny. And above all - tyranny of foreigners against which they originally fought (when many joined leftists in the early 20th cent).


    before that the “Bolsheviks” under the Germans
     
    No, the Bolsheviks were hated because they were torturing and killing our relatives. That happened way before the Germans even arrived. You know this and you still lie. Wow, you just can't help yourself.

    As to most Russophones in the Baltics being somewhat loyal - yes, they are. Not entirely but large numbers of them are quite loyal. And some of them even condemn the Russian invasion. Why, would you have preferred that they were stupid enough to destroy their own homes by screaming for Putin's troops to arrive? They saw what happened in Donbas.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Beckow

    See what I mean? In LatW world it’s always 1941.

    No matter what unpleasantness took place in those years and up to WW1 (and there were many), when the Soviet Union broke up Latvia was still mainly populated by Letts, Poland by Poles, Estonia by Estonians.

    You people are like a man walking along a motorway backwards, looking where you’ve been, cursing the driver who killed your grandfather 35 years ago – as the sixteen wheel HGV rapidly approaches.

    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren’t British.

    You lot can still save yourselves. But I’m not at all sure you will.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @YetAnotherAnon


    See what I mean? In LatW world it’s always 1941.
     
    I was explaining to Beckow how he was lying - so I had to write a rebuttal that deals with 1940s, it doesn't mean we dwell on it all the time. The nationalists have all been aware, for decades in fact, that the danger is from both sides.

    My country (the UK) is trashed.
     

    You allowed your country to be trashed and now you're going to come to us and complain? And trash us just because we have legitimate interests? We have a right to fight for our survival. Frankly, it's strange that you don't notice what Russia's been doing - they built a mosque in Mariupol, where there had never been one historically. That's one of the first things they did after the occupation. Right after their ethnic cleansing program which wipes out Ukrainian identity. Talk about replacement. But this is fine by you, right? Because it doesn't affect you directly...

    You lot can still save yourselves. But I’m not at all sure you will.
     
    We're never going to be as rich, as powerful, as attractive to the world and as generous with our resources as the British - so the migration scenarios won't be repeating one to one. Only if there are large ecological catastrophes will this become a huge problem. But at that point, everyone will be screwed and the states will most likely turn to physical defense.
    , @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren’t British.
     
    You ruined your own country and now you want Russia to ruin other countries.

    The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. And your lack of that instinct is why your country is in its current state.

    So you take the side of the the ones who send Chechens and Central Asians to kill Ukrainians and settle their lands, who bring Eurasia into Europe. You idolize Putin, the killer of Europeans (both in Ukraine and within Russia). You whine that you yourselves brought Africa and Pakistan into your homeland, so in "revenge" you want Eurasia and the Caucuses brought into Ukrainians' homeland for some reason.

    There is something particularly pathetic and disgusting about Western right-wing pro-Russians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Europe Europa
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I don't understand why right wing people in Britain always feel the need to shill for the Soviet Union and Russia. Despite mass immigration into Britain, Putin is not your friend. Putin is using third world invaders as a weapon, flying them in and sending them over the borders into Finland and Poland.

    Putin has no interest in helping you fight for a white Britain or repatriation of third worlders, a weakened, multi-racial, rudderless Britain/Western world with no cohesive identity is in Russia and China's interests and they make that quite clear as far as I can see.

    Also, you criticise people for being against the Soviet/Russian occupation of their countries, yet I doubt you begrudge Irish nationalists for being against British control in Ireland. I don't see the difference really. Why is Britain attacked for doing the same things that many seem to want to give a free pass to Russia for? This is another thing I don't understand.

    The one up side about Russia's behaviour, past and present, is that it creates a strong counter-argument to attacks on British history. Usually the sort of people who attack British history won't hear a bad word about Russia and usually shut up pretty quickly if you retort with quoting ugly episodes in Russian history, of which there are many.

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

  314. @YetAnotherAnon
    @John Johnson

    "You do realize that Putin has been dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?"

    I certainly do. All is fair in love and war, and Vlad is taking a leaf out of Rules For Radicals - "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

    "Basically dumping Muslims at the border."

    If you go to Helsinki, you'll actually see quite a few Pakistanis, although not as many as in Oslo, where the east half of the Norwegian capital is Muslim. V.S Naipaul explained it 42 years ago in this book:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Among_the_Believers


    The business was organized. Like accountants studying tax laws, the manpower-export experts of Pakistan studied the world’s immigration laws and competitively gambled with their emigrant battalions: visitor’s visas overstayable here (most European countries), dependants shippable there (England), student’s visas convertible there (Canada and the United States), political asylum to be asked for there (Austria and West Berlin), still no visas needed here, just below the Arctic Circle (Finland). They went by the planeload. Karachi airport was equipped for this emigrant traffic. Some got through; some were turned back…
     
    In any event, how does this address my point that only Russia can save Poland and the Baltic States from the fate of the UK (and also Ireland with its famously feisty population)?

    Replies: @LatW

    only Russia can save Poland and the Baltic States from the fate of the UK?

    How so? You assume Poland and the Baltics do not have their own immigration and asylum policy which differs from that of the crazy Western one? You do realize that by fighting Russia’s hybrid war on the border, Poland and the Baltics are simultaneously closing entry to migrants? Some even want to mine the border.

  315. @YetAnotherAnon
    @LatW

    See what I mean? In LatW world it's always 1941.

    No matter what unpleasantness took place in those years and up to WW1 (and there were many), when the Soviet Union broke up Latvia was still mainly populated by Letts, Poland by Poles, Estonia by Estonians.

    You people are like a man walking along a motorway backwards, looking where you've been, cursing the driver who killed your grandfather 35 years ago - as the sixteen wheel HGV rapidly approaches.

    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren't British.

    You lot can still save yourselves. But I'm not at all sure you will.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP, @Europe Europa

    See what I mean? In LatW world it’s always 1941.

    I was explaining to Beckow how he was lying – so I had to write a rebuttal that deals with 1940s, it doesn’t mean we dwell on it all the time. The nationalists have all been aware, for decades in fact, that the danger is from both sides.

    My country (the UK) is trashed.

    You allowed your country to be trashed and now you’re going to come to us and complain? And trash us just because we have legitimate interests? We have a right to fight for our survival. Frankly, it’s strange that you don’t notice what Russia’s been doing – they built a mosque in Mariupol, where there had never been one historically. That’s one of the first things they did after the occupation. Right after their ethnic cleansing program which wipes out Ukrainian identity. Talk about replacement. But this is fine by you, right? Because it doesn’t affect you directly…

    You lot can still save yourselves. But I’m not at all sure you will.

    We’re never going to be as rich, as powerful, as attractive to the world and as generous with our resources as the British – so the migration scenarios won’t be repeating one to one. Only if there are large ecological catastrophes will this become a huge problem. But at that point, everyone will be screwed and the states will most likely turn to physical defense.

  316. @songbird
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    I recall reading somewhere that the way that people rate an image can be significantly impacted by the direction one learns to read in. That it has to do at least partly with which direction the diagonal line follows, whether hard or only suggested by drawing one over elements in the frame.

    I would think that it would also impact film. I recall that in the movie The 13th Warrior, in the editing process, they ran one shot backwards, to change the direction the camera panned in, to make it visually more pleasing.

    But strange to say, I have never really perceived any difference in watching Japanese films. But perhaps, it is because I don't have a good eye for details.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    This is the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd text required for newbies in Church of Satan and Temple of Set.

    • Thanks: songbird
  317. “You assume Poland and the Baltics do not have their own immigration and asylum policy which differs from that of the crazy Western one”

    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.

    “You allowed your country to be trashed and now you’re going to come to us and complain?”

    A lot of people fought against the trashing of the country. They were physically attacked and in some cases killed, lawfare was waged against them, the security services published their members addresses.

    Who’s complaining? I’m telling you that if Russia loses (and Poland/Baltics are therefore of no more use to the global elite) then you will share our fate. I’d rather that in 50 years Poland was still Polish and the Baltic States still belonged to their peoples.

    “You lot can still save yourselves. But I’m not at all sure you will. And your replies confirm me in that view.”

    PS – the UK is NOT rich and powerful any more. It’s illusion. Were the UN to be set up tomorrow, no way would it have a Security Council seat.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @YetAnotherAnon


    PS – the UK is NOT rich and powerful any more. It’s illusion. Were the UN to be set up tomorrow, no way would it have a Security Council seat.
     
    Do you think Mossad has more agents in London or in Riyadh?
    , @sudden death
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.
     
    According to Enoch Powell, Britain in fact had nothing but open door immigration policy back then as British monarchy legal arrangement regarding (lack of) citizenship was among the main causes, which began original UK population replacement problem, which became visibly big enough in 1962, after decade or so of such occuring movement by the people of the (former) empire:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Zfvcb3mWI&t=36s

  318. @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1
     
    An absurd lie you cretinous moron.

    other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

     

    Yuryev ( now Tartu) in Estonia was declared Bolshevik even before Saint Petersburg! Simply wrong to say majority Estonians and Latvians didn't want Communism. Much of the "nationalist" movements that resisted against the Communists ( who were fighting about 100 different wars at the same time) were Tsarist loyal Whites in these countries.

    Most of the "nationalist" fighting against the Soviets was funded by the western powers and organised by the Baltic German landowners in Estonia and Latvia.

    As is logical, you idiot - most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them - increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @John Johnson

    most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless)

    They were not uneducated. Despite of segregation, they managed to educate themselves quite well. Which period are you talking about? Give the exact years. There were teacher seminaries in Kurland already in 1830s. In mid 19th cent, there were city gymnasiums. There was a whole class of intelligent Latvians and Estonians by then. I think the riflemen were more educated than an average Russian Empire person.

  319. @YetAnotherAnon
    "You assume Poland and the Baltics do not have their own immigration and asylum policy which differs from that of the crazy Western one"

    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.

    "You allowed your country to be trashed and now you’re going to come to us and complain?"

    A lot of people fought against the trashing of the country. They were physically attacked and in some cases killed, lawfare was waged against them, the security services published their members addresses.

    Who's complaining? I'm telling you that if Russia loses (and Poland/Baltics are therefore of no more use to the global elite) then you will share our fate. I'd rather that in 50 years Poland was still Polish and the Baltic States still belonged to their peoples.

    "You lot can still save yourselves. But I’m not at all sure you will. And your replies confirm me in that view."

    PS - the UK is NOT rich and powerful any more. It's illusion. Were the UN to be set up tomorrow, no way would it have a Security Council seat.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    PS – the UK is NOT rich and powerful any more. It’s illusion. Were the UN to be set up tomorrow, no way would it have a Security Council seat.

    Do you think Mossad has more agents in London or in Riyadh?

  320. @YetAnotherAnon
    @LatW

    See what I mean? In LatW world it's always 1941.

    No matter what unpleasantness took place in those years and up to WW1 (and there were many), when the Soviet Union broke up Latvia was still mainly populated by Letts, Poland by Poles, Estonia by Estonians.

    You people are like a man walking along a motorway backwards, looking where you've been, cursing the driver who killed your grandfather 35 years ago - as the sixteen wheel HGV rapidly approaches.

    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren't British.

    You lot can still save yourselves. But I'm not at all sure you will.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP, @Europe Europa

    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren’t British.

    You ruined your own country and now you want Russia to ruin other countries.

    The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. And your lack of that instinct is why your country is in its current state.

    So you take the side of the the ones who send Chechens and Central Asians to kill Ukrainians and settle their lands, who bring Eurasia into Europe. You idolize Putin, the killer of Europeans (both in Ukraine and within Russia). You whine that you yourselves brought Africa and Pakistan into your homeland, so in “revenge” you want Eurasia and the Caucuses brought into Ukrainians’ homeland for some reason.

    There is something particularly pathetic and disgusting about Western right-wing pro-Russians.

    • Agree: sudden death, Mr. Hack
    • Thanks: LatW
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @AP

    Well, there you go. None so blind as those who will not see.

    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles - indeed more Polish than in 1939.

    "The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. "

    For resisting the Russians you'll be rewarded by the US Deep State and those who run it. You might even get a couple of films made or books telling your brave story.

    Fortunately for you I don't think Russia is going to lose (though the succession to Putin is always a worry - the oligarchs haven't gone away).

    And who knows, in another 20 years China might be disappearing in the distance and the US dollar disappearing down the plughole. Things will look very different then.

    Replies: @AP

  321. @Beckow
    @LatW


    Latvian SS was German built
     
    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS. But even that you couldn't do by yourself, the servitude to Germans seems to be in the Latvian blood.

    There were no Poles as guards in the concentration camps - but the Ukies were there. Poles to their credit didn't collaborate - maybe most were not given the option. Donald Tusk's grandfather was in SS, he was probably "Aryan" enough...Most Poles were mercilessly slaughtered until Russian saved them. Poles forgot who was killing them, but will never forgive the Russians for putting a stop to it. As they say "chujova rasa"...


    Many of them condemn the invasion into Ukraine.
     
    As you Latvians condemn the "imperialists" under the commies, and before that the "Bolsheviks" under the Germans...it is called human nature. Why do you take it seriously only when it suits you?

    Replies: @LatW, @AP

    Donald Tusk’s grandfather was in SS,

    Beckow lying as usual.

    His grandfather was conscripted into the Wehrmacht.

    the servitude to Germans seems to be in the Latvian blood.

    Slovaks taking about someone else’s servitude?

    Has anyone historically been more servile than Slovaks? You yourself routinely argue that servitude is a virtue, and that resistance is stupid. Slovaks quietly and obediently served the Hungarian masters for centuries. Not many rebellion or revolts. Then after a brief break they obediently served the Nazis, and after that quietly served the Communists. Are you having an existential crisis now – unsure of whether to serve Putin or Orban more?

    Latvians allied with the Germans because Stalin killed many of them first. Understandable – like Jews allying with Stalin. For each one, there was a clear lesser evil. Slovaks allied with Hitler for opportunistic reasons. Slovaks even paid to have their Jews killed.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...His grandfather was conscripted into the Wehrmacht.
     
    So he was an acceptable Aryan? Maybe a quasi-German? It is simply weird to have that in Tusk's background. Serving in the German Army in WW2...imagine that in France or any other occupied country.

    Why do you worry so much about us? We have it quite good: life is great, we are more independent than most nations, our political life is very open and views are not censored. There was no "Hungary" as you see it - it was a multi-national Habsburg Empire. We had issues with Magyars right before WW1 when they went madly nationalist and tried to "Magyarise" everyone, Slovaks, Croats, Romanians, Rusins, even Germans. But it was as a very short period and we put it behind us.

    You should worry about the Ukies and their current tragic fate. You try to distract and sound irrelevant and desperate. Kiev is losing the war they didn't have to fight, Ukie men are bleeding for the hypothetical (as you claim) right to the Nato membership - that is neither heroic nor smart, it actually looks like the ultimate in servility to the Anglos...

  322. @AP
    @QCIC


    AP is correct to point out there is still lots of great food in the USA (the oasis). You are correct to point out (effectively) that fewer and fewer people seem to be eating it (the desert).
     
    He is actually quite wrong about that. The rise of the upper middle class (it's probably around 20% or so of the American population now, used to be only around 10%) has meant an increase in better and healthier food in the country and expansion of areas that have such food. It has also forced traditionally bad places to improve their products a bit.

    This is from 2015 but the trend has not reversed:

    https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iC0OBt95bda0/v2/-1x-1.png

    The expansion in the number of grocery store chains such as Wholefoods, craft breweries, etc. that cater to this population tracks the expansion of this group of people.

    They are fairly well segregated from the poors, too.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years. The food is edible for the most part but quality is mediocre. In some places there are still many good real restaurants but the prices are increasing relative to incomes, while quality is slipping. The number of processed/industrial food items in the supermarket seems to be growing faster than the quantity of simple good healthy items.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small. Then quality degraded as the chain expanded, expenses and profit margins both went up while they drove out competition. Then they degraded further when Amazon bought them. Over many years the store gradually dropped a lot of organic products and it was sometimes possible to do better in a regular supermarket. They may have corrected this to some degree. In a previous exchange you mentioned their bread. In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    The food is edible for the most part but quality is mediocre.
     
    Your experience is different from mine. The smell of the inside of a McDonald's or a KFC or a Subway makes me feel ill. I haven't spent any money at these places in 4 or 5 years now. When I was used to it it didn't make me feel ill.

    There are people who are used to smoking cigarettes.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @AP
    @QCIC


    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years
     
    The better quality ones such a Chick Fil-A and In-in-Out, whose food is edible, have expanded but I doubt that McDonald’s has.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small

     

    They are still decent and maintain some quality control, placing them on a similar level to European or Canadian stores. Their expansion reflects the expansion of the upper middle class public within the USA.

    In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

     

    I’ve only been in their stores in the Northeast. I’ve only had good breads there. Comparable to typical European quality (though Quebec is better and cheaper). Their produce and meats are also good. The public is also of generally European proportions.

    Overall, about 20% of Americans fall into the upper middle class. That’s about 60 million people, a France-worth of wealthy, healthy, well dressed people with good foods. In areas with a lot of them such as much of the Northeast they’ve even set the general social trend. It is not small and retreating oases.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

  323. @QCIC
    @AP

    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years. The food is edible for the most part but quality is mediocre. In some places there are still many good real restaurants but the prices are increasing relative to incomes, while quality is slipping. The number of processed/industrial food items in the supermarket seems to be growing faster than the quantity of simple good healthy items.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small. Then quality degraded as the chain expanded, expenses and profit margins both went up while they drove out competition. Then they degraded further when Amazon bought them. Over many years the store gradually dropped a lot of organic products and it was sometimes possible to do better in a regular supermarket. They may have corrected this to some degree. In a previous exchange you mentioned their bread. In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    The food is edible for the most part but quality is mediocre.

    Your experience is different from mine. The smell of the inside of a McDonald’s or a KFC or a Subway makes me feel ill. I haven’t spent any money at these places in 4 or 5 years now. When I was used to it it didn’t make me feel ill.

    There are people who are used to smoking cigarettes.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I was trying to be balanced. I haven't been to McDonalds or KFC in decades. I may hit Subway once every few years as a non-greasy option if I am stuck somewhere without sustenance. There are some half decent burger places in the better fast food tiers.

  324. @YetAnotherAnon
    "You assume Poland and the Baltics do not have their own immigration and asylum policy which differs from that of the crazy Western one"

    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.

    "You allowed your country to be trashed and now you’re going to come to us and complain?"

    A lot of people fought against the trashing of the country. They were physically attacked and in some cases killed, lawfare was waged against them, the security services published their members addresses.

    Who's complaining? I'm telling you that if Russia loses (and Poland/Baltics are therefore of no more use to the global elite) then you will share our fate. I'd rather that in 50 years Poland was still Polish and the Baltic States still belonged to their peoples.

    "You lot can still save yourselves. But I’m not at all sure you will. And your replies confirm me in that view."

    PS - the UK is NOT rich and powerful any more. It's illusion. Were the UN to be set up tomorrow, no way would it have a Security Council seat.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.

    According to Enoch Powell, Britain in fact had nothing but open door immigration policy back then as British monarchy legal arrangement regarding (lack of) citizenship was among the main causes, which began original UK population replacement problem, which became visibly big enough in 1962, after decade or so of such occuring movement by the people of the (former) empire:

  325. @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren’t British.
     
    You ruined your own country and now you want Russia to ruin other countries.

    The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. And your lack of that instinct is why your country is in its current state.

    So you take the side of the the ones who send Chechens and Central Asians to kill Ukrainians and settle their lands, who bring Eurasia into Europe. You idolize Putin, the killer of Europeans (both in Ukraine and within Russia). You whine that you yourselves brought Africa and Pakistan into your homeland, so in "revenge" you want Eurasia and the Caucuses brought into Ukrainians' homeland for some reason.

    There is something particularly pathetic and disgusting about Western right-wing pro-Russians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Well, there you go. None so blind as those who will not see.

    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles – indeed more Polish than in 1939.

    “The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. “

    For resisting the Russians you’ll be rewarded by the US Deep State and those who run it. You might even get a couple of films made or books telling your brave story.

    Fortunately for you I don’t think Russia is going to lose (though the succession to Putin is always a worry – the oligarchs haven’t gone away).

    And who knows, in another 20 years China might be disappearing in the distance and the US dollar disappearing down the plughole. Things will look very different then.

    • Replies: @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles – indeed more Polish than in 1939.

     

    That’s because Poland was on the furthest edge.

    But the Baltics and Ukraine were stuffed with foreign settlers. Latvia became something like only 60% Latvian.

    Even now Russia is sending Central Asian settlers into occupied Ukraine. Mariupol got its first mosque.


    The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. “

    For resisting the Russians you’ll be rewarded by the US Deep State and those who run it
     

    Sick fantasy by the kind of person who has ruined his own country.

    Russia has already started settling non-Europeans in the areas it captured.

    And Poland and the Baltics are still far more native than your own country, that you yourself soiled.

    There you are, right wing Western European loser, smeared in your own filth, eagerly hoping that Russia does to Ukraine what you have done to yourself. Because you can’t stand a brave people fighting for their lands, doing something that you would never have dared to do.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  326. @YetAnotherAnon
    By heavens, the various Eastern European hatreds are on full display here. and without even touching the former Yugoslavia.

    Just let me try to get this into all your thick skulls - there are plenty of reasons, on both sides, for your ancestral hatreds. But it's not 1939, 1917 or even 1794.

    It's 2023, and in the formerly mighty UK the steel industry (owned by China and India) is about to close its last blast furnaces, so it will only be able to make steel from scrap. The Prime Minister is a Brahmin Hindu, and the most popular name for baby boys is one of the many variants of Mohammed.

    All this in the seventy years since 1953.

    Let's just say your damp dreams come true, Russia collapses, is dismembered and becomes wholly a plaything of US capital. Within seventy years, probably much sooner, Poland and the Baltic States will share the fate of Britain.

    Literally, Russia is your only hope until the US declines. As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive. The minute that need vanishes, they will be exposed to the full treatment - NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to and including trade sanctions, illegal entry sanctioned by young idealists, Angela Merkel on steroids.

    Poland and the Baltics will rapidly progress from

    "Don't be so racist, there are are only a few of them, a tiny minority, what harm do they do?"

    to (several major riots later)

    "There are a hell of a lot of us, you'd better treat us fairly (or else)"

    and when it turns out that there are hardly any black airline pilots or nuclear physicists

    "Poland is racist"

    You lot are not only fighting the last war, you're fighting the three or four before that!

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW

    Let’s just say your damp dreams come true, Russia collapses, is dismembered and becomes wholly a plaything of US capital.

    In the scenario of Russia’s collapse and subsequent falling into less centralized regions, it’s not a given that they will become somehow subservient to the US or even permeated by US capital. There could be some kind of a proliferation of strong men led autonomies. Only a few, such as maybe Ingria, would integrate with the West. But it would not be the Far West (for the lack of a better term), but the Eastern Euro / Northern Euro West which is a bit less crazy when it comes to accepting multi-culturalism. In fact, these new Russian populations could give us a boost there, as many of them do not want multiculturalism and dislike Russia’s Islamization. In any event, St Pete is now full of Muslims – I didn’t recognize it anymore.

    [MORE]

    Within seventy years, probably much sooner, Poland and the Baltic States will share the fate of Britain.

    Only if they became like Britain – Britain has so much excess resources, so much capital, so much social cred still to this day, everyone speaks English. Although I don’t like how London has changed. There is the old, timeless London, of course, the cultural and architectural background that will always be there – but the masses swarming there now… sigh.

    Poland and the Baltics will not be able to maintain expensive asylum systems where hundreds of thousands of people live off of welfare and just cruise through life aimlessly or build resentments towards the locals – that will be considered as a threat instead of producing excuses such as “oh but they used to be oppressed!”. We don’t identify as anybody’s past overlords, the way the British are told to. The Poles might have this with Ukrainians, but that’s not dangerous for them.

    It also remains to be seen if our population softens the way the Western one has. There is some softening, but there is still a large part of the population that care about how their environment looks and they are strict about who works and who doesn’t, as well as other inter-racial related attitudes. Which now seem absent in the UK (except for the very upper classes).

    As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive.

    How so? If there is no longer threat from Russia, these countries will just breathe a sigh of relief and continue existing. There is not much investment there from the US (although there are finance connections – but that needs to be addressed separately), most investment is from the EU and Norway.
    This investment is guided by meticulous mathematical calculations rooted in productivity and economic trends. If there is peace, this will continue, since this is designed for long-term returns, with some investments projecting gains over the next 20 to 30 years. Not to mention that Poland is tied to Germany (and going forward even Lithuania will be to a larger extent than before due to the expected arrival of German troops).

    NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to

    I must disappoint you – these scum have been around for a long time already, since the 1990s. And, of course, have infiltrated the leading parties and tried to infiltrate the education system. Gosh, if you want to see Soros-style busy bodies, come to the Baltics, where they think they can lord it over the “backward natives”. Or so it used to be 20 years ago, might have changed now. They may have trained a local class of woke dipshits who will perform their deeds for them.

    As to non-white migration, yes, it’s a danger, but let’s not rush – you are talking as if something really terrible has already happened. There is still an ideological struggle going on. The Bear-Slayer is still wrestling on the cliff with his adversary. 🙂

    It doesn’t mean the current flows should not be managed strictly (ideally – stopped, except for the highly specialized). The current geopolitical context is also not the same as it was just a few years ago and maybe (hopefully) will become less conducive to mass non-white migration (and all the other types of insanity, that would be nice). I mean, the contradictions are clearly on display now. The Israel / Palestinian crisis just exacerbated it, brought it out in full light. This is good for us, nationalists. We need to be using this to our advantage.

    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.

    Didn’t the big problems really start in late 1980s, early to mid 1990s?

    Well, Britain is a former world superpower, with many former subjects worldwide that it has chosen not to abandon (maybe wasn’t the right idea, sorry – sometimes trying to be too good can backfire). The British economy is vast and intensive, very advanced and in constant need of more labor and skills. Ours is nowhere near to that, doubt it ever will be (although the Polish one combined with German might come close?), although we do have labor shortages now. But these are skilled labor or hard working and slightly underpaid menial labor shortages, not freeloader asylum seeker permanent welfare bum future street fighter, BLM wrecker type shortages.

    We don’t have the grace of the British to spread the wealth around. The locals themselves still compete for resources (but that is changing slowly).

    A lot of people fought against the trashing of the country. They were physically attacked and in some cases killed, lawfare was waged against them, the security services published their members addresses.

    I do sympathize with the UK nationalists and have always really liked them. I liked their recent Armistice day rally. I’m aware how difficult is has been for them. It is scandalous to give power to non-British (I don’t use the term “white British”). And it is scandalous – and in fact a betrayal of one’s children – to sell off assets to China – I’m very strongly against this.

    I’m telling you that if Russia loses (and Poland/Baltics are therefore of no more use to the global elite) then you will share our fate.

    Can you explain in more detail how you tie this together, because I’ve been trying to figure this out for a long time, to no avail. I’m assuming you’re looking for a large Eastern Euro Russia led bloc that will present as non woke and this will have a chilling effect on Western elites?

    Well, it may have seemed that way in the 1980s when there were huge masses of young Slavs but the current RusFedian ideology is not in line with some racial and cultural uniformity, since they are Islamifying and Sinofying their country at a fast rate. And, worse, trying to spread that Westwards.

    As to Poland/Balts not being useful to the global elite…. hm, not sure I get this one. First, they will always be useful due to their geographic location and all the previous investments that have been made there, with an economy that’s growing more complex. The whole region is interconnected and with larger investment funds connected to that.

    Second, they exist on their own, even without “being useful to the global elite” – that’s not what the population bases its survival and its ethos on. These are our native lands and native people. Even if the cities have always been slightly more cosmopolitan, the majority are native. Why would this change if the war in Ukraine stopped and if Russia retreated? No, we’d celebrate. If Russia retreats, they will just go back to where they were prior to 2022 (or 2014). That’s how we lived prior to the war.

    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles – indeed more Polish than in 1939.

    Don”t know about Poles, but there would’ve been way more Balts if it hadn’t been for the Russian domination, they ruined our baby boom years because they expelled hundreds of thousands of potential parents.

    I’d rather that in 50 years Poland was still Polish and the Baltic States still belonged to their people

    Yes, me too, but words are not enough. Btw, 50 years is not that long, and in 50 year (just two generations), I think they will still belong to the natives. But we need to ensure not just 50, but 500 years. And hopefully beyond that. When I think back to the people who lived in the Iron Age, I think of them as my people on their native land, and that was hundreds of years ago. The same kind of a projection should go into the future, for the future generations. The goal is to establish permanence, and, on an idealistic level, it seems we at least agree on this principle.

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @LatW


    Didn’t the big problems really start in late 1980s, early to mid 1990s?
     
    I think it was after 1997 really, iirc immigration started moving into the ~200,000 a year and more range then. Before it was something like 50,000 a year, both European and non-European. So they only made the decision to switch to a mass migration policy about 25 years ago.

    It seems like as long as there was a working class trade union movement and enough people who were educated during the period the empire still existed, there was enough popular pressure to maintain a restrictive system, but once these things started to fade the globalist tendencies came back, the lure of the low cost labour, divide and rule possibilities and so on.

    The falling birthrate among the indigenous population was something else they may not have factored in.

    I don't know if anyone in power was really thinking about it that deeply, but you can see the demographic change snowball gathering momentum now. In another 10 years I guess the UK will be 28%+ non-white and counting; but also by then the identity question will be more of a mainstream topic than it is now.

    I was listening to a discussion between a French 'souverainiste' leader (these are the guys who want to leave the EU, a type of retro-Gaullist) and a young identitarian writer the other day where they agreed that it will be hard for the next generation or two and harsh measures may need to be taken against 'degenerate whites', those who won't stop promoting policies that threaten the survival and safety of the native population.

    Something like that seems possible in the UK as well, the French may be just ahead in thinking it through.

    Russia doesn't seem a major factor, there are deeper cultural/political trends behind the issue in Western Europe. Also seems likely this is going to happen too quickly for large numbers of immigrants to get into Poland or the Baltics before the political and social costs of prolonged mass-immigration from outside Europe start to become clearer.

    Replies: @LatW

  327. @Beckow
    @LatW

    They are industrious those Ukies...I will tell you how it works: hundreds of millions funded by EU helps Ukies set up "businesses". Anyone with half a brain will take the money and open a "cafe" - it is paid for and they get to skim the profits.

    We have a "liquor bar" on one of our main streets with very suggestive sharp red lights. It is run by Ukie women who seem too drunk to run anything, and there is never anyone there - the drink is like if you would squeeze water out of leftover manure. The loans will not be paid, naturally. Do you think that is a legitimate "business"?

    Local Euro citizens don't have those opportunities - but they pay for it with taxes. Brussels does it to create an image that "Ukies are working!", but we see the numbers, they cost us a few billion in support each month. It is basically charity by another name.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Anyone with half a brain will take the money and open a “cafe” – it is paid for and they get to skim the profits.

    Profits are by definition what’s left over after all the costs associated with producing the goods and services are paid for to be used by the owners as they wish. Is it somehow different in Slovakia? I’m surprised that a financial genius like you doesn’t understand this?

    We have a “liquor bar” on one of our main streets with very suggestive sharp red lights. It is run by Ukie women who seem too drunk to run anything, and there is never anyone there.

    Bring your own palinka with you the next time you pay them a visit. I bet that the girls there are gorgeous, not like the Mexican chickitas that disappointed you so much, just be careful that your wife doesn’t find out!

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    The chickitas - I prefer to call them "cholas" - are too short, sorry. The Ukie liquor ladies are shapely, tall, but too drunk - not my type. Plus the sharp lights and the smell of manure, we feel sorry for them...

    I meant that they are skimming the money they were loaned for "business" - not the profits, I doubt they ever planned to have any. Good catch...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  328. @YetAnotherAnon
    @AP

    Well, there you go. None so blind as those who will not see.

    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles - indeed more Polish than in 1939.

    "The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. "

    For resisting the Russians you'll be rewarded by the US Deep State and those who run it. You might even get a couple of films made or books telling your brave story.

    Fortunately for you I don't think Russia is going to lose (though the succession to Putin is always a worry - the oligarchs haven't gone away).

    And who knows, in another 20 years China might be disappearing in the distance and the US dollar disappearing down the plughole. Things will look very different then.

    Replies: @AP

    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles – indeed more Polish than in 1939.

    That’s because Poland was on the furthest edge.

    But the Baltics and Ukraine were stuffed with foreign settlers. Latvia became something like only 60% Latvian.

    Even now Russia is sending Central Asian settlers into occupied Ukraine. Mariupol got its first mosque.

    The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. “

    For resisting the Russians you’ll be rewarded by the US Deep State and those who run it

    Sick fantasy by the kind of person who has ruined his own country.

    Russia has already started settling non-Europeans in the areas it captured.

    And Poland and the Baltics are still far more native than your own country, that you yourself soiled.

    There you are, right wing Western European loser, smeared in your own filth, eagerly hoping that Russia does to Ukraine what you have done to yourself. Because you can’t stand a brave people fighting for their lands, doing something that you would never have dared to do.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    But the Baltics and Ukraine were stuffed with foreign settlers. Latvia became something like only 60% Latvian.

     

    At least the Slavs (mostly Russians) in the Baltics are relatively easy to integrate, no? The older generation might be more prone to listening to Russian propaganda but the younger generation appears to at least be learning to be more capable of thinking for itself:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/02/world/europe/estonia-russia-war-putin.html

    Even now Russia is sending Central Asian settlers into occupied Ukraine. Mariupol got its first mosque.

     

    Interestingly enough, had Russia and Ukraine avoided decades of Communist rule, Central Asians would have likely began flocking into Russia and Ukraine in huge numbers decades earlier, possibly in the early 20th century, assuming both free internal migration within Greater Russia and Central Asia remaining a part of Greater Russia. It could have been similar to the African-American Great Migration from the Southern US to the Northern and Western US between 1910 and 1970 in real life. In 1910, 89% of all African-Americans lived in the Southern US, but in 1970, only 53% did. The job and economic opportunities would be more lucrative in Russia and Ukraine than they would be back at home in Central Asia, no? At least until the late 20th century or so.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  329. @QCIC
    @AP

    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years. The food is edible for the most part but quality is mediocre. In some places there are still many good real restaurants but the prices are increasing relative to incomes, while quality is slipping. The number of processed/industrial food items in the supermarket seems to be growing faster than the quantity of simple good healthy items.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small. Then quality degraded as the chain expanded, expenses and profit margins both went up while they drove out competition. Then they degraded further when Amazon bought them. Over many years the store gradually dropped a lot of organic products and it was sometimes possible to do better in a regular supermarket. They may have corrected this to some degree. In a previous exchange you mentioned their bread. In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years

    The better quality ones such a Chick Fil-A and In-in-Out, whose food is edible, have expanded but I doubt that McDonald’s has.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small

    They are still decent and maintain some quality control, placing them on a similar level to European or Canadian stores. Their expansion reflects the expansion of the upper middle class public within the USA.

    In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

    I’ve only been in their stores in the Northeast. I’ve only had good breads there. Comparable to typical European quality (though Quebec is better and cheaper). Their produce and meats are also good. The public is also of generally European proportions.

    Overall, about 20% of Americans fall into the upper middle class. That’s about 60 million people, a France-worth of wealthy, healthy, well dressed people with good foods. In areas with a lot of them such as much of the Northeast they’ve even set the general social trend. It is not small and retreating oases.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    I hope you are correct about the oases. There are many factors at work and only time will tell.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Overall, about 20% of Americans fall into the upper middle class. That’s about 60 million people, a France-worth of wealthy, healthy, well dressed people with good foods. In areas with a lot of them such as much of the Northeast they’ve even set the general social trend. It is not small and retreating oases.
     
    Aren't Hispanics in the US pretty healthy as well, at least in terms of total life expectancy, in spite of them being poorer than white Americans are? I know that Hispanics suffer more from things like diabetes, et cetera but still live longer on average. Is it worth it for people to eat more Hispanic cuisine if they want to live longer?

    I guess that the Northeastern US's equivalent of this might be Jewish cuisine. Jews also live pretty long on average:

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-12-05/ty-article/.premium/new-report-shows-significant-discrepancy-in-life-expectancy-between-israeli-cities/0000017f-defb-db5a-a57f-defb85ee0000

    https://forward.com/culture/140894/may-you-live-until-120-dna-uncovers-secrets-to-je/

    In both Britain and Israel, Jews live longer than gentiles (white Europeans and Arabs, respectively) do. I suspect that this would also be true for the US.
  330. @A123
    @LatW


    What is even more important is that the EU decided to start the accession talks (they kindly asked Orban to leave the room while they voted).
     
    It would be more accurate to state that they compensated Hungary not to veto the ascension talks by releasing over €10B of EU payments.

    Farming blocks have political power in EU countries, notably France. This has made Common Agricultural Policy [CAP] programmes untouchable since founding. Ukraine is among the largest farming countries on the world. How will Ukraine be integrated into the CAP?

    Hungary was willing to take the money to walk as they know that there are near insurmountable obstacles to Ukraine actually joining the EU. Remember that ascension talks do not guarantee acceptance, ask Türkiye. Future vetoes can still take place.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @LatW

    This has made Common Agricultural Policy [CAP] programmes untouchable since founding. Ukraine is among the largest farming countries on the world. How will Ukraine be integrated into the CAP?

    It’s true that this is one of the areas where the existing members will compete with Ukraine – it will be tackled later down the road and, yes, it will be laborious on both sides (it might be similar to how Poland fought for their subsidies during the accession, they kept everyone up until 1am during the Copenhagen summit). We are in an interesting spot where we are competing but we also need a more competitive agricultural industry, we need high quality food that is also not too expensive (since food prices have gone up so much). The danger is actually for Ukraine (that Western companies could take over their industries). We cannot yet envision how the common market will work, I think right now the key would be to help Ukraine prepare.

    Hungary was willing to take the money to walk as they know that there are near insurmountable obstacles to Ukraine actually joining the EU.

    Indeed, that was probably the most expensive walk to the restroom in the world history – although I’m not sure most Europeans like this display of blackmail… you can only do those things as much until everyone gets fed up with it, especially those members who do not practice such tactics. But still… the fact that Orban (and who ever stands behind him) fought so hard and so bitterly until the very end, shows that there is more to it. That this is significant.

    Remember that ascension talks do not guarantee acceptance, ask Türkiye.

    Turkey is not a European country. And Turkey became an autocracy (with Erdogan). Ukraine won’t (as long as they remain free and retain most of their territory – however, they may be forced to become more authoritarian if they have to fight Russia alone). Let’s be honest – Western Euros do not want more Turks, but they don’t mind Ukrainians. Hungarians and Slovaks (who have issues with Ukrainians) will not matter in the big picture.

    Future vetoes can still take place.

    It will be a long journey. Personally, I don’t feel there’s a rush (unlike for defense matters). And there will be EU reforms along the way. Orban’s example demonstrates that they are needed.

  331. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Populated by Latvians, most of them volunteers who wanted to be in SS.
     
    I've already repeated to you over and over - there was a mobilization. The punishment for evading the mobilization was death. This was late in the war, when Germans lacked troops, thus they had these measures. This was illegal and a crime against my nation (since they took the best boys). The Legion consists of those who joined voluntarily - however, I have issues with this word, because the Germans deliberately used it to pretend as it it was voluntary - how voluntary is it when someone joins just because they don't want to have the Bolshevik terror to return to their lands? There is nothing voluntary about it. And then there was a forced, massive mobilization of Latvian men into the Legion. I have to look up what the proportion was between voluntary and mobilized (don't remember from the top of my head).

    I've told you this basic historic fact many times, yet you stubbornly repeat lies.

    Fun fact - apparently the Latvian Legionaries were guards at the Nuremberg trial? So they were trust enough for that. :)


    As you Latvians condemn the “imperialists” under the commies
     
    Wrong, large swaths of Latvians were anti-Communist even during the Communist times. In the mid to late 1980s they openly made fun of the Soviet power, everyone was listening to "imperialist" music. Most Balts never bought the Soviet idea. Are you seriously going to try to lie about this?

    You deliberately conflate the turbulent times of the Civil War with later periods. The period of the Civil War was very specific, because of the reasons you already listed (fight against the ancien regime). It doesn't mean people were going to accept Communist tyranny. And above all - tyranny of foreigners against which they originally fought (when many joined leftists in the early 20th cent).


    before that the “Bolsheviks” under the Germans
     
    No, the Bolsheviks were hated because they were torturing and killing our relatives. That happened way before the Germans even arrived. You know this and you still lie. Wow, you just can't help yourself.

    As to most Russophones in the Baltics being somewhat loyal - yes, they are. Not entirely but large numbers of them are quite loyal. And some of them even condemn the Russian invasion. Why, would you have preferred that they were stupid enough to destroy their own homes by screaming for Putin's troops to arrive? They saw what happened in Donbas.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Beckow

    This was late in the war, when Germans lacked troops, thus they had these measures.

    Why do you mislead so blatantly? Late in the war? It was formed in February 1943. In 1941-42, Latvian militias murdered 100k people, mostly Jews in the forests outside of Riga. The Division was called Volunteer…see wiki:

    Latvian SS-Volunteer Division was an infantry division of the Waffen-SS during World War II. It was formed in February 1943, and together with its sister unit, the 19th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (2nd Latvian) formed the Latvian Legion.

    mid to late 1980s they openly made fun of the Soviet power, everyone was listening to “imperialist” music. Most Balts never bought the Soviet idea…

    Late 80’s is your benchmark? By the late 80’s literally everybody in SU was making fun of the commies. For 35 years after WW2 the Latvians were as commie as any other nation in the SU – they had people in top positions in Moscow and the Latvian commies run Latvia, quite the heroes you were…and nobody banned Latvian language or culture as you do now to Russians.

    conflate the turbulent times of the Civil War with later periods. The period of the Civil War was very specific, because of the reasons you already listed fight against the ancien regime

    I don’t conflate it. But specifically with the Bolsheviks coming to power, it was the Latvians who acted as one of the main armed forces for the Bolshies and Latvia had the highest pro-Bolshevik vote…there are always “reasons”, but it simply is not true that Latvians were anti-Boshevik at that time. Russians could equally turn on you and blame the Latvians for Bolshevism.

    Bolsheviks were hated because they were torturing and killing our relatives

    Before that in the 1930’s Latvia was a dictatorship that imprisoned, killed and tortured leftists, socialists and commies. What goes around comes around. If you don’t want to be oppressed, don’t oppress others.

    I don’t think one can make any firm statement about attitudes in the middle of the war hysteria. We don’t know what the Russo-phones think, and for how long they will think it. What we do know is that Latvia is not an open society where dissident views are allowed. And that’s a shame for an EU country.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    Late in the war? It was formed in February 1943.
     
    Yes, my point was exactly that - 1943 is late and when Germany had already started losing (or was sensing that things are not going well, a lot is written about the efforts during the winter of that year). Of course, they accepted the volunteers but they needed troops badly and started a very strict mobilization (illegal under the Geneva convention since they were an occupying power in Ostland - I'm speaking strictly legally here, without emotions or propaganda). This is late in the war.

    In 1941-42, Latvian militias murdered 100k people
     
    This is of course not true, it was the German SD mostly.

    You don't know enough to understand the difference between the German SD, the local police auxiliaries and the Legion. Some of it is interconnected, but not all or not even most. There is only point in discussing this if you read all the historical material on the mobilization processes (and in general the Nazi occupation), as well as the literature on the Legion. And from good sources.


    mostly Jews in the forests outside of Riga.
     
    While I admit that the Holocaust was horrific (and in fact, one can view the Holocaust as a transgression against the Latvian state, not just against the Jews), let me tell you - I have been to the Rumbula forest site, have looked at where the potential pit was supposed to be - there is absolutely no way that 24 thousand were killed and buried there, especially in such a short time. In and of itself, this does not mean anything, of course, we can not make any clear statements, but this is a good enough reason to start doubting the numbers or at least start asking questions about how these numbers were arrived at. Also, it doesn't mean there are no other victim sites (that are not as well known, for example, on the country side, as that is only now beginning to be researched).

    If you're going to study history solely based on Wiki, then sorry, I cannot help you. Nor do I consider such a conversation fully serious. And Wiki most likely uses the old KGB / Soviet sources. But as I said, you haven't read the material, Wiki can be ok sometimes, but you won't find the whole picture there (and sometimes there will even be inaccuracies).


    For 35 years after WW2 the Latvians were as commie as any other nation in the SU – they had people in top positions in Moscow and the Latvian commies run Latvia
     
    Now this is what I dubbed "Beckow's blank spots" - here they are again, in full splendor. You completely wipe out all the resistance, all the deportations, all the murders, all the Soviet terror (as if it never took place - and that the population that was subjected to this was already traumatized by war).

    Why do you pretend not to understand how the Soviet system worked? You think we are dummies here who don't know? That Latvian commies were cleansed in the 1950s (the so called "national communists" who wanted autonomy were removed)? That there were actual Moscow functionaries sent over? Insane numbers of troops, non-Latvian. Insane number of non-Latvian colonists. You can't argue with someone who has such major, factual "blank spots".

    And no, the Balts were not as communist or communized as the Easter Slavs. Even though there were prominent Latvian communist functionaries (and this stems from way back, from the Civil War period as well), for the majority of the population Communism was alien. Traditionally we live in separate homesteads so collectivism is not well received. And even those city leftists were essentially democrats and nationalists themselves. Why, you think people should embrace and enjoy brutal occupations?


    and nobody banned Latvian language or culture as you do now to Russians.
     
    Hundreds of Latvian titles were simply banned, I don't know how many thousands of poets, writers, teachers, doctors, were exiled or shot. They murdered the leader of the Dievturi movement - as a pagan, I will never forgive this. They actually banned the Summer Solstice celebration (the Līgo festival) which is the biggest Latvian holiday of the year. To me this is insane - and extremely offensive.

    Then they deliberately changed the linguistic landscape in a radical way that had never been experienced in Livonia for any time in its history - worse than in Alexander II's times.

    And, btw, we did not ban the Russian culture - we continued to have two parallel cultures with some government interference (which is normal, our people and our culture deserve protection in what is essentially a post-colonial situation). You do realize that back in the 1990s and early 2000s we continued to have local Russian media that was posting agitation against the government, against the native culture and of course against America? And yet we let it be. That was risky. Most states would've closed that. You are simply lying that Russian culture "was banned", it still isn't. Even if after what they've just done.

    You don't know what you're talking about, Beckow. You don't know about the demography of the Russophones. Their motivations (some of them vacillate between the need to have comfort and the need to have their little Russian chauvinism). Thus you make wrong assumptions based on your bias or your wishes. You are not smarter than our Russophones and you certainly don't know what is best for them. But they know. And those who are still a little behind, they, too, will soon realize that they do not need "the Russian world" - as it has displayed itself in Eastern Ukraine. Smoking ruins. Women's bodies piled up and burnt. No electricity, no water. In our times, in White people's societies...

    Trust me, they know. Even those who still want Russia, they, too, know, even with all the little lies they tell themselves to feel comfortable.


    Before that in the 1930’s Latvia was a dictatorship that imprisoned, killed and tortured leftists, socialists and commies.
     
    Do you have reliable sources?

    Just because Latvia was authoritarian, doesn't mean they wanted scumbag Bolshevik (or any foreign) invaders there. And this is one of the biggest lessons I've learned about Russia - just because you want to preserve your people and lay down under him, doesn't mean he will not beat you. The result will actually be worse, if you do not fight back. Fighting will take sacrifices, but being a slave will cost even more.

    This is why I admire Lithuanians - they resisted as Forest Brothers even longer than the Latvians did, thus the Russians were too scared to send in the colonists. Now their grandchildren do not have the problem of resentful colonists. A brave people that was not afraid to make the right sacrifices at the right time - for the sake of the future.


    If you don’t want to be oppressed, don’t oppress others.
     
    I agree. You have to protect your language in your own land, but excessive pressure is not that good. The maximum freedom should be allowed, balanced against security and national interests. The problem is that the Russians are kind of a specific people in this context (and there is Russia next door), this is not a standard situation - and you know this very well. But choose to ignore it due to your ideological convictions. It's ok, you don't matter enough to change anything - especially after what RusFed did. They lost all cred in Europe. The Ukes will take advantage of this too as they fight for their culture.

    We don’t know what the Russo-phones think, and for how long they will think it.
     
    We do know what they think because we talk to them? In private? We read what they write on comment boards? We hear how they speak to each other? Sorry, just a bit of innocent eavesdropping. Has it ever occurred to you that they can be different? With varying ages, incomes, backgrounds, attitudes? We can gauge in some of the conversations how they feel about what happened. The answers vary.

    What we do know is that Latvia is not an open society where dissident views are allowed. And that’s a shame for an EU country.

     

    It's quite open. But I already told you that there is a war right now - you have to be careful. They are suppressing nationalist speech too. They even removed a protester with a red / black Ukrainian resistance flag (UPA). That really pissed me off. The state is trying to preemptively disband possible altercations (small ones), but it still pisses me off.

    You don't know any of this, yet you make all kinds of guesses. They're not always intelligent, to put it mildly.

    As to the Ukrainian refugee workers, those little shops are just small individual businesses. Providing food and daycare for people is great. The little boutique I saw on the coastline was selling smoked fish plus their own dishes, why not have another boutique on the coastline as an extra option?

    But most of them work for existing businesses. So this is a contribution to these larger businesses in the form of labor.

  332. And, actually, I have been thinking about Hungary a bit and was wondering how much the fact that Ukrainians happen to be Eastern Slavs is affecting the attitudes of Hungarians (I do not entirely equate Orban with all Hungarians, but it does seem close). Living next to a large E.Slav population can feel ominous. Probably even with the Carpathian mountains separating the two.

    And, after all, the battle for Budapest was quite savage. And there were Ukrainians there in the Red Army. This is of course by far not the main reason, but I wonder if there is some residual discomfort there.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    have been thinking about Hungary a bit and was wondering how much the fact that Ukrainians happen to be Eastern Slavs is affecting the attitudes of Hungarians (I do not entirely equate Orban with all Hungarians, but it does seem close). Living next to a large E.Slav population can feel ominous.
     
    What an idiotic piece of nonsense. Completely different to the parasitic loser scum with no morals or principles who have been in charge of the Baltics, 404 of course and most of the other ex Warsaw pact states since 1991 .........Hungary has a leader who was actually a principled anti-communist and actively campaigned against the authorities during their youth.
    You not find it incredible that these retard countries like the Baltics ..........have to find, rejects, committed communists most of their lives, foreigners, North American Waffen SS scum diaspora cowards to be their President or PM nearly all the time and can't find to at least somebody who actively resisted the Communist "oppression" for the 50 years ( opportunistic scum who switched at the last second don't classify) to give at least some credibility to all the fake "oppression" BS? LMAO

    Of course, because there was no "oppression", they were all fascist Police states in the 1930s and they never had it so good as when in the USSR - that explains these freaks inability to find people with an actual anti-soviet history.

    There's Orban in Hungary , Croatia has had a few , South Africa had Mandela and several others who actively resisted or were imprisoned by the previous system that was then overturned in a revolution. I don't agree with most of their positions but at least they have the credibility to get to the top of their countries after a revolution. For the Baltics there is none of this - just their own inferiority complexes , Uncle Sam bribery and their general love for Uncle Sam c*ck sucking are what we are seeing with the decisions by the Baltic excrement and other Warsaw pact states - not some anti-communist backlash based on imaginary "historical scars".

    Replies: @sudden death, @LatW

  333. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    Anyone with half a brain will take the money and open a “cafe” – it is paid for and they get to skim the profits.
     
    Profits are by definition what's left over after all the costs associated with producing the goods and services are paid for to be used by the owners as they wish. Is it somehow different in Slovakia? I'm surprised that a financial genius like you doesn't understand this?

    We have a “liquor bar” on one of our main streets with very suggestive sharp red lights. It is run by Ukie women who seem too drunk to run anything, and there is never anyone there.
     
    Bring your own palinka with you the next time you pay them a visit. I bet that the girls there are gorgeous, not like the Mexican chickitas that disappointed you so much, just be careful that your wife doesn't find out!

    Replies: @Beckow

    The chickitas – I prefer to call them “cholas” – are too short, sorry. The Ukie liquor ladies are shapely, tall, but too drunk – not my type. Plus the sharp lights and the smell of manure, we feel sorry for them…

    I meant that they are skimming the money they were loaned for “business” – not the profits, I doubt they ever planned to have any. Good catch…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    the smell of manure
     
    On one of your main streets? Are you suggesting that the ladies are also allowed to raise livestock there? Sorrt Beckow, but you must really live in a hicktown. :-) :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

  334. @LatW
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Let’s just say your damp dreams come true, Russia collapses, is dismembered and becomes wholly a plaything of US capital.
     
    In the scenario of Russia's collapse and subsequent falling into less centralized regions, it's not a given that they will become somehow subservient to the US or even permeated by US capital. There could be some kind of a proliferation of strong men led autonomies. Only a few, such as maybe Ingria, would integrate with the West. But it would not be the Far West (for the lack of a better term), but the Eastern Euro / Northern Euro West which is a bit less crazy when it comes to accepting multi-culturalism. In fact, these new Russian populations could give us a boost there, as many of them do not want multiculturalism and dislike Russia's Islamization. In any event, St Pete is now full of Muslims - I didn't recognize it anymore.

    Within seventy years, probably much sooner, Poland and the Baltic States will share the fate of Britain.
     
    Only if they became like Britain - Britain has so much excess resources, so much capital, so much social cred still to this day, everyone speaks English. Although I don't like how London has changed. There is the old, timeless London, of course, the cultural and architectural background that will always be there - but the masses swarming there now... sigh.

    Poland and the Baltics will not be able to maintain expensive asylum systems where hundreds of thousands of people live off of welfare and just cruise through life aimlessly or build resentments towards the locals - that will be considered as a threat instead of producing excuses such as "oh but they used to be oppressed!". We don't identify as anybody's past overlords, the way the British are told to. The Poles might have this with Ukrainians, but that's not dangerous for them.

    It also remains to be seen if our population softens the way the Western one has. There is some softening, but there is still a large part of the population that care about how their environment looks and they are strict about who works and who doesn't, as well as other inter-racial related attitudes. Which now seem absent in the UK (except for the very upper classes).


    As long as the Baltics and Poland are needed by the US as an anti-Russian bulwark, they will survive.

     

    How so? If there is no longer threat from Russia, these countries will just breathe a sigh of relief and continue existing. There is not much investment there from the US (although there are finance connections - but that needs to be addressed separately), most investment is from the EU and Norway.
    This investment is guided by meticulous mathematical calculations rooted in productivity and economic trends. If there is peace, this will continue, since this is designed for long-term returns, with some investments projecting gains over the next 20 to 30 years. Not to mention that Poland is tied to Germany (and going forward even Lithuania will be to a larger extent than before due to the expected arrival of German troops).

    NGO lawfare by dozens of Soros-style orgs followed by EU pressure up to
     
    I must disappoint you - these scum have been around for a long time already, since the 1990s. And, of course, have infiltrated the leading parties and tried to infiltrate the education system. Gosh, if you want to see Soros-style busy bodies, come to the Baltics, where they think they can lord it over the "backward natives". Or so it used to be 20 years ago, might have changed now. They may have trained a local class of woke dipshits who will perform their deeds for them.

    As to non-white migration, yes, it's a danger, but let's not rush - you are talking as if something really terrible has already happened. There is still an ideological struggle going on. The Bear-Slayer is still wrestling on the cliff with his adversary. :)

    It doesn't mean the current flows should not be managed strictly (ideally - stopped, except for the highly specialized). The current geopolitical context is also not the same as it was just a few years ago and maybe (hopefully) will become less conducive to mass non-white migration (and all the other types of insanity, that would be nice). I mean, the contradictions are clearly on display now. The Israel / Palestinian crisis just exacerbated it, brought it out in full light. This is good for us, nationalists. We need to be using this to our advantage.


    Britain had a relatively sensible immigration policy in 1953.
     
    Didn't the big problems really start in late 1980s, early to mid 1990s?

    Well, Britain is a former world superpower, with many former subjects worldwide that it has chosen not to abandon (maybe wasn't the right idea, sorry - sometimes trying to be too good can backfire). The British economy is vast and intensive, very advanced and in constant need of more labor and skills. Ours is nowhere near to that, doubt it ever will be (although the Polish one combined with German might come close?), although we do have labor shortages now. But these are skilled labor or hard working and slightly underpaid menial labor shortages, not freeloader asylum seeker permanent welfare bum future street fighter, BLM wrecker type shortages.

    We don't have the grace of the British to spread the wealth around. The locals themselves still compete for resources (but that is changing slowly).


    A lot of people fought against the trashing of the country. They were physically attacked and in some cases killed, lawfare was waged against them, the security services published their members addresses.
     
    I do sympathize with the UK nationalists and have always really liked them. I liked their recent Armistice day rally. I'm aware how difficult is has been for them. It is scandalous to give power to non-British (I don't use the term "white British"). And it is scandalous - and in fact a betrayal of one's children - to sell off assets to China - I'm very strongly against this.

    I’m telling you that if Russia loses (and Poland/Baltics are therefore of no more use to the global elite) then you will share our fate.
     
    Can you explain in more detail how you tie this together, because I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, to no avail. I'm assuming you're looking for a large Eastern Euro Russia led bloc that will present as non woke and this will have a chilling effect on Western elites?

    Well, it may have seemed that way in the 1980s when there were huge masses of young Slavs but the current RusFedian ideology is not in line with some racial and cultural uniformity, since they are Islamifying and Sinofying their country at a fast rate. And, worse, trying to spread that Westwards.

    As to Poland/Balts not being useful to the global elite.... hm, not sure I get this one. First, they will always be useful due to their geographic location and all the previous investments that have been made there, with an economy that's growing more complex. The whole region is interconnected and with larger investment funds connected to that.

    Second, they exist on their own, even without "being useful to the global elite" - that's not what the population bases its survival and its ethos on. These are our native lands and native people. Even if the cities have always been slightly more cosmopolitan, the majority are native. Why would this change if the war in Ukraine stopped and if Russia retreated? No, we'd celebrate. If Russia retreats, they will just go back to where they were prior to 2022 (or 2014). That's how we lived prior to the war.


    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles – indeed more Polish than in 1939.
     
    Don''t know about Poles, but there would've been way more Balts if it hadn't been for the Russian domination, they ruined our baby boom years because they expelled hundreds of thousands of potential parents.

    I’d rather that in 50 years Poland was still Polish and the Baltic States still belonged to their people
     
    Yes, me too, but words are not enough. Btw, 50 years is not that long, and in 50 year (just two generations), I think they will still belong to the natives. But we need to ensure not just 50, but 500 years. And hopefully beyond that. When I think back to the people who lived in the Iron Age, I think of them as my people on their native land, and that was hundreds of years ago. The same kind of a projection should go into the future, for the future generations. The goal is to establish permanence, and, on an idealistic level, it seems we at least agree on this principle.

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    Didn’t the big problems really start in late 1980s, early to mid 1990s?

    I think it was after 1997 really, iirc immigration started moving into the ~200,000 a year and more range then. Before it was something like 50,000 a year, both European and non-European. So they only made the decision to switch to a mass migration policy about 25 years ago.

    It seems like as long as there was a working class trade union movement and enough people who were educated during the period the empire still existed, there was enough popular pressure to maintain a restrictive system, but once these things started to fade the globalist tendencies came back, the lure of the low cost labour, divide and rule possibilities and so on.

    The falling birthrate among the indigenous population was something else they may not have factored in.

    I don’t know if anyone in power was really thinking about it that deeply, but you can see the demographic change snowball gathering momentum now. In another 10 years I guess the UK will be 28%+ non-white and counting; but also by then the identity question will be more of a mainstream topic than it is now.

    I was listening to a discussion between a French ‘souverainiste’ leader (these are the guys who want to leave the EU, a type of retro-Gaullist) and a young identitarian writer the other day where they agreed that it will be hard for the next generation or two and harsh measures may need to be taken against ‘degenerate whites’, those who won’t stop promoting policies that threaten the survival and safety of the native population.

    Something like that seems possible in the UK as well, the French may be just ahead in thinking it through.

    Russia doesn’t seem a major factor, there are deeper cultural/political trends behind the issue in Western Europe. Also seems likely this is going to happen too quickly for large numbers of immigrants to get into Poland or the Baltics before the political and social costs of prolonged mass-immigration from outside Europe start to become clearer.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Coconuts


    I think it was after 1997 really, iirc immigration started moving into the ~200,000 a year and more range then. Before it was something like 50,000 a year, both European and non-European. So they only made the decision to switch to a mass migration policy about 25 years ago.
     
    Of course, that coincides with the triumph period of neoliberalism. They were too nonchalant about its effects. Since I'm not big into conspiracies, I'm just assuming they didn't look too much into the future but decided to make money fast.

    Do you think this may have had something to do with Diana's death? That was a trauma and sometimes the royal family is the one that holds everyone and everything together. You know, kind of like, when a pearl necklace bursts open and falls on the ground with all the pearls scattering, having gone loose...

    I'm sure there was a neoliberal push to more immigration, however, wasn't the ground for this laid already during the Marxist revolutions of the 1960s? Probably not to the extent as in France, the UK seems more conservative.

    Maybe one of the issues for the British is that they may have taken on the role of setting the rules for the world (at least, the so called "free world"), and, being in that position, one has to be open and show by example. Otherwise, if you change that paradigm, and communicate that "Britain needs protection, too", it may sound as if Britain is "weak", it's a paradigm reversal and potential abandonment of a world leader status. The US has the same issue as well, however, the US is huge, with lots of free space, while Britain is a small island, with limited space. And the various British peoples are indigenous and separate ethnies, and not an artificially created mixed nation.

    Although the debate in the UK is probably way beyond that by now, because it's a de facto multi-cultural reality now with Indian leadership.


    It seems like as long as there was a working class trade union movement and enough people who were educated during the period the empire still existed, there was enough popular pressure to maintain a restrictive system, but once these things started to fade the globalist tendencies came back, the lure of the low cost labour, divide and rule possibilities and so on.
     
    Yes, this is understandable, and again coincides with the triumphant march of neoliberalism. (Just a note here on EEs: most regular people thought we would jump straight into the Swedish system in 1991, not the neoliberal one, oops!). I wonder if the ideologies prevailing in the UK contributed to the dismantling of the trade union systems more so than they did in Scandinavia where those seemed to be deeply entrenched and probably connected to some sort of a nationalism (self-preservation of the nation more so than some abstract socialist ideas of equality and fairness even if it is phrased that way). The UK is perceived as having a more individualist ideology. Then again the Labour Party must have undergone some serious changes. Btw, the Scandis haven't been entirely immune from this either (although they are better about not allowing their population to be ravaged - I know their nationalists would disagree, haha).

    In another 10 years I guess the UK will be 28%+ non-white and counting
     
    When it gets to that point, it will be very serious (at that point it starts affecting mate choices, with such a large number of foreigners, it is inevitable to affect the mating pool). I read somewhere, in the context of Latvia's situation with the colonists, that one should never exceed something like 20% of foreigners in their land and that beyond that it gets dangerous. I forgot the exact number, but it was way below 30% (that was already considered red lights).

    Once you separate race from the identity narrative (the "white British" distinction), then you're on a slippery slope.


    young identitarian writer the other day where they agreed that it will be hard for the next generation or two and harsh measures may need to be taken against ‘degenerate whites’, those who won’t stop promoting policies that threaten the survival and safety of the native population.
     
    This is a matter where smart and assertive men need to arrive at a point where they are able to take matters in their own hands, due to the urgent nature of the situation, but of course they need to be backed by a wide consensus (from at least a part of the public that will support them). Certain political decisions that have been allowed in certain Euro countries reached a critical point a long time ago, the problem is that anything is futile, unless there is significant support (and enough of those who are ready to sacrifice). You don't want to sacrifice brave men in futile actions knowing that it could be counterproductive.

    Something like that seems possible in the UK as well, the French may be just ahead in thinking it through.
     
    You feel that France if more progressive that way? :) Jk. The French are more outspoken and ready for action, the English maybe a bit more conservative. It would be great to have some British "conservative revolution" (ok, turn or pivot, revolution sounds too radical). Preferably highly educated ones as they would have global authority.

    Btw, Arestovych in his recent rants (he made a bit of a U-turn), has been saying things like "There is a de facto civil war going on in the US, ideologically speaking". I think it's a bit exaggerated (it's a long way for Americans to ruin their own society and to get into physical altercations), however, this is a clear trend now. And war is not always physical.

    I wonder what would be the Euro or British version of it.


    Also seems likely this is going to happen too quickly for large numbers of immigrants to get into Poland or the Baltics before the political and social costs of prolonged mass-immigration from outside Europe start to become clearer.
     
    You mean it will or won't become clear soon enough? It feels like it's changing now. But that's the thing - as years go by, it always feels like it's changing, it's just about to reach the critical mass, yet the frog just keeps on being boiled... only when there are real, physical, legal changes, can we say there's been a turn, right? Let's say when they reduce the annual number allowed into the UK, significantly. Or crank down on Muslims heavily (and not just because of Israel but they can use that as an excuse).

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Coconuts

  335. @AP
    @Beckow


    Donald Tusk’s grandfather was in SS,
     
    Beckow lying as usual.

    His grandfather was conscripted into the Wehrmacht.

    the servitude to Germans seems to be in the Latvian blood.
     
    Slovaks taking about someone else's servitude?

    Has anyone historically been more servile than Slovaks? You yourself routinely argue that servitude is a virtue, and that resistance is stupid. Slovaks quietly and obediently served the Hungarian masters for centuries. Not many rebellion or revolts. Then after a brief break they obediently served the Nazis, and after that quietly served the Communists. Are you having an existential crisis now - unsure of whether to serve Putin or Orban more?

    Latvians allied with the Germans because Stalin killed many of them first. Understandable - like Jews allying with Stalin. For each one, there was a clear lesser evil. Slovaks allied with Hitler for opportunistic reasons. Slovaks even paid to have their Jews killed.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …His grandfather was conscripted into the Wehrmacht.

    So he was an acceptable Aryan? Maybe a quasi-German? It is simply weird to have that in Tusk’s background. Serving in the German Army in WW2…imagine that in France or any other occupied country.

    Why do you worry so much about us? We have it quite good: life is great, we are more independent than most nations, our political life is very open and views are not censored. There was no “Hungary” as you see it – it was a multi-national Habsburg Empire. We had issues with Magyars right before WW1 when they went madly nationalist and tried to “Magyarise” everyone, Slovaks, Croats, Romanians, Rusins, even Germans. But it was as a very short period and we put it behind us.

    You should worry about the Ukies and their current tragic fate. You try to distract and sound irrelevant and desperate. Kiev is losing the war they didn’t have to fight, Ukie men are bleeding for the hypothetical (as you claim) right to the Nato membership – that is neither heroic nor smart, it actually looks like the ultimate in servility to the Anglos…

  336. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    The food is edible for the most part but quality is mediocre.
     
    Your experience is different from mine. The smell of the inside of a McDonald's or a KFC or a Subway makes me feel ill. I haven't spent any money at these places in 4 or 5 years now. When I was used to it it didn't make me feel ill.

    There are people who are used to smoking cigarettes.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I was trying to be balanced. I haven’t been to McDonalds or KFC in decades. I may hit Subway once every few years as a non-greasy option if I am stuck somewhere without sustenance. There are some half decent burger places in the better fast food tiers.

  337. @AP
    @QCIC


    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years
     
    The better quality ones such a Chick Fil-A and In-in-Out, whose food is edible, have expanded but I doubt that McDonald’s has.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small

     

    They are still decent and maintain some quality control, placing them on a similar level to European or Canadian stores. Their expansion reflects the expansion of the upper middle class public within the USA.

    In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

     

    I’ve only been in their stores in the Northeast. I’ve only had good breads there. Comparable to typical European quality (though Quebec is better and cheaper). Their produce and meats are also good. The public is also of generally European proportions.

    Overall, about 20% of Americans fall into the upper middle class. That’s about 60 million people, a France-worth of wealthy, healthy, well dressed people with good foods. In areas with a lot of them such as much of the Northeast they’ve even set the general social trend. It is not small and retreating oases.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    I hope you are correct about the oases. There are many factors at work and only time will tell.

  338. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    The chickitas - I prefer to call them "cholas" - are too short, sorry. The Ukie liquor ladies are shapely, tall, but too drunk - not my type. Plus the sharp lights and the smell of manure, we feel sorry for them...

    I meant that they are skimming the money they were loaned for "business" - not the profits, I doubt they ever planned to have any. Good catch...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    the smell of manure

    On one of your main streets? Are you suggesting that the ladies are also allowed to raise livestock there? Sorrt Beckow, but you must really live in a hicktown. 🙂 🙂

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    I was very precise: the liquor itself smells like manure... Imagine a brightly lit with red lights hole in the wall, liquor probably concocted out of fertilizer, crooked orthodox writing, tipsy Ukie women - this is after dark. It is their "business", nobody is there, but they keep on drinking...I will take a picture for you...:)

    Look, we have some sympathy for them - they were told on January 1 this year that there are no more freebies, they either work, go on to Germany, or "start a business"...we also have these drop-offs for used clothing in our malls where Ukie women sort old clothes. And, of course, the Ukie barristas everywhere - most claim they were students or office workers and talk about waiting for "visas", almost all are women.

    I am not unsympathetic, but is this good for the Ukrainian nation? Why would people exchange normal existence for this? We all know it happened because somebody decided that it would be just swell to have Ukraine in Nato...this is Kafka-level absurdity. Putting aside the horrible tragedy for a moment, it will in retrospect look quite funny. Who does that? It is not about "EU", it is about Nato - Russians say it again and again and you all try to deny it ever more desperately - because you know that dying to be in Nato is simply absurd. Just like that smelly Ukie liquor.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  339. @Beckow
    @LatW


    This was late in the war, when Germans lacked troops, thus they had these measures.

     

    Why do you mislead so blatantly? Late in the war? It was formed in February 1943. In 1941-42, Latvian militias murdered 100k people, mostly Jews in the forests outside of Riga. The Division was called Volunteer...see wiki:

    Latvian SS-Volunteer Division was an infantry division of the Waffen-SS during World War II. It was formed in February 1943, and together with its sister unit, the 19th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (2nd Latvian) formed the Latvian Legion.


    mid to late 1980s they openly made fun of the Soviet power, everyone was listening to “imperialist” music. Most Balts never bought the Soviet idea...
     
    Late 80's is your benchmark? By the late 80's literally everybody in SU was making fun of the commies. For 35 years after WW2 the Latvians were as commie as any other nation in the SU - they had people in top positions in Moscow and the Latvian commies run Latvia, quite the heroes you were...and nobody banned Latvian language or culture as you do now to Russians.

    conflate the turbulent times of the Civil War with later periods. The period of the Civil War was very specific, because of the reasons you already listed fight against the ancien regime
     
    I don't conflate it. But specifically with the Bolsheviks coming to power, it was the Latvians who acted as one of the main armed forces for the Bolshies and Latvia had the highest pro-Bolshevik vote...there are always "reasons", but it simply is not true that Latvians were anti-Boshevik at that time. Russians could equally turn on you and blame the Latvians for Bolshevism.

    Bolsheviks were hated because they were torturing and killing our relatives
     
    Before that in the 1930's Latvia was a dictatorship that imprisoned, killed and tortured leftists, socialists and commies. What goes around comes around. If you don't want to be oppressed, don't oppress others.

    I don't think one can make any firm statement about attitudes in the middle of the war hysteria. We don't know what the Russo-phones think, and for how long they will think it. What we do know is that Latvia is not an open society where dissident views are allowed. And that's a shame for an EU country.

    Replies: @LatW

    Late in the war? It was formed in February 1943.

    Yes, my point was exactly that – 1943 is late and when Germany had already started losing (or was sensing that things are not going well, a lot is written about the efforts during the winter of that year). Of course, they accepted the volunteers but they needed troops badly and started a very strict mobilization (illegal under the Geneva convention since they were an occupying power in Ostland – I’m speaking strictly legally here, without emotions or propaganda). This is late in the war.

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    In 1941-42, Latvian militias murdered 100k people

    This is of course not true, it was the German SD mostly.

    You don’t know enough to understand the difference between the German SD, the local police auxiliaries and the Legion. Some of it is interconnected, but not all or not even most. There is only point in discussing this if you read all the historical material on the mobilization processes (and in general the Nazi occupation), as well as the literature on the Legion. And from good sources.

    mostly Jews in the forests outside of Riga.

    While I admit that the Holocaust was horrific (and in fact, one can view the Holocaust as a transgression against the Latvian state, not just against the Jews), let me tell you – I have been to the Rumbula forest site, have looked at where the potential pit was supposed to be – there is absolutely no way that 24 thousand were killed and buried there, especially in such a short time. In and of itself, this does not mean anything, of course, we can not make any clear statements, but this is a good enough reason to start doubting the numbers or at least start asking questions about how these numbers were arrived at. Also, it doesn’t mean there are no other victim sites (that are not as well known, for example, on the country side, as that is only now beginning to be researched).

    If you’re going to study history solely based on Wiki, then sorry, I cannot help you. Nor do I consider such a conversation fully serious. And Wiki most likely uses the old KGB / Soviet sources. But as I said, you haven’t read the material, Wiki can be ok sometimes, but you won’t find the whole picture there (and sometimes there will even be inaccuracies).

    For 35 years after WW2 the Latvians were as commie as any other nation in the SU – they had people in top positions in Moscow and the Latvian commies run Latvia

    Now this is what I dubbed “Beckow’s blank spots” – here they are again, in full splendor. You completely wipe out all the resistance, all the deportations, all the murders, all the Soviet terror (as if it never took place – and that the population that was subjected to this was already traumatized by war).

    Why do you pretend not to understand how the Soviet system worked? You think we are dummies here who don’t know? That Latvian commies were cleansed in the 1950s (the so called “national communists” who wanted autonomy were removed)? That there were actual Moscow functionaries sent over? Insane numbers of troops, non-Latvian. Insane number of non-Latvian colonists. You can’t argue with someone who has such major, factual “blank spots”.

    And no, the Balts were not as communist or communized as the Easter Slavs. Even though there were prominent Latvian communist functionaries (and this stems from way back, from the Civil War period as well), for the majority of the population Communism was alien. Traditionally we live in separate homesteads so collectivism is not well received. And even those city leftists were essentially democrats and nationalists themselves. Why, you think people should embrace and enjoy brutal occupations?

    and nobody banned Latvian language or culture as you do now to Russians.

    Hundreds of Latvian titles were simply banned, I don’t know how many thousands of poets, writers, teachers, doctors, were exiled or shot. They murdered the leader of the Dievturi movement – as a pagan, I will never forgive this. They actually banned the Summer Solstice celebration (the Līgo festival) which is the biggest Latvian holiday of the year. To me this is insane – and extremely offensive.

    Then they deliberately changed the linguistic landscape in a radical way that had never been experienced in Livonia for any time in its history – worse than in Alexander II’s times.

    And, btw, we did not ban the Russian culture – we continued to have two parallel cultures with some government interference (which is normal, our people and our culture deserve protection in what is essentially a post-colonial situation). You do realize that back in the 1990s and early 2000s we continued to have local Russian media that was posting agitation against the government, against the native culture and of course against America? And yet we let it be. That was risky. Most states would’ve closed that. You are simply lying that Russian culture “was banned”, it still isn’t. Even if after what they’ve just done.

    You don’t know what you’re talking about, Beckow. You don’t know about the demography of the Russophones. Their motivations (some of them vacillate between the need to have comfort and the need to have their little Russian chauvinism). Thus you make wrong assumptions based on your bias or your wishes. You are not smarter than our Russophones and you certainly don’t know what is best for them. But they know. And those who are still a little behind, they, too, will soon realize that they do not need “the Russian world” – as it has displayed itself in Eastern Ukraine. Smoking ruins. Women’s bodies piled up and burnt. No electricity, no water. In our times, in White people’s societies…

    Trust me, they know. Even those who still want Russia, they, too, know, even with all the little lies they tell themselves to feel comfortable.

    Before that in the 1930’s Latvia was a dictatorship that imprisoned, killed and tortured leftists, socialists and commies.

    Do you have reliable sources?

    Just because Latvia was authoritarian, doesn’t mean they wanted scumbag Bolshevik (or any foreign) invaders there. And this is one of the biggest lessons I’ve learned about Russia – just because you want to preserve your people and lay down under him, doesn’t mean he will not beat you. The result will actually be worse, if you do not fight back. Fighting will take sacrifices, but being a slave will cost even more.

    This is why I admire Lithuanians – they resisted as Forest Brothers even longer than the Latvians did, thus the Russians were too scared to send in the colonists. Now their grandchildren do not have the problem of resentful colonists. A brave people that was not afraid to make the right sacrifices at the right time – for the sake of the future.

    If you don’t want to be oppressed, don’t oppress others.

    I agree. You have to protect your language in your own land, but excessive pressure is not that good. The maximum freedom should be allowed, balanced against security and national interests. The problem is that the Russians are kind of a specific people in this context (and there is Russia next door), this is not a standard situation – and you know this very well. But choose to ignore it due to your ideological convictions. It’s ok, you don’t matter enough to change anything – especially after what RusFed did. They lost all cred in Europe. The Ukes will take advantage of this too as they fight for their culture.

    We don’t know what the Russo-phones think, and for how long they will think it.

    We do know what they think because we talk to them? In private? We read what they write on comment boards? We hear how they speak to each other? Sorry, just a bit of innocent eavesdropping. Has it ever occurred to you that they can be different? With varying ages, incomes, backgrounds, attitudes? We can gauge in some of the conversations how they feel about what happened. The answers vary.

    What we do know is that Latvia is not an open society where dissident views are allowed. And that’s a shame for an EU country.

    It’s quite open. But I already told you that there is a war right now – you have to be careful. They are suppressing nationalist speech too. They even removed a protester with a red / black Ukrainian resistance flag (UPA). That really pissed me off. The state is trying to preemptively disband possible altercations (small ones), but it still pisses me off.

    You don’t know any of this, yet you make all kinds of guesses. They’re not always intelligent, to put it mildly.

    As to the Ukrainian refugee workers, those little shops are just small individual businesses. Providing food and daycare for people is great. The little boutique I saw on the coastline was selling smoked fish plus their own dishes, why not have another boutique on the coastline as an extra option?

    But most of them work for existing businesses. So this is a contribution to these larger businesses in the form of labor.

  340. @Coconuts
    @LatW


    Didn’t the big problems really start in late 1980s, early to mid 1990s?
     
    I think it was after 1997 really, iirc immigration started moving into the ~200,000 a year and more range then. Before it was something like 50,000 a year, both European and non-European. So they only made the decision to switch to a mass migration policy about 25 years ago.

    It seems like as long as there was a working class trade union movement and enough people who were educated during the period the empire still existed, there was enough popular pressure to maintain a restrictive system, but once these things started to fade the globalist tendencies came back, the lure of the low cost labour, divide and rule possibilities and so on.

    The falling birthrate among the indigenous population was something else they may not have factored in.

    I don't know if anyone in power was really thinking about it that deeply, but you can see the demographic change snowball gathering momentum now. In another 10 years I guess the UK will be 28%+ non-white and counting; but also by then the identity question will be more of a mainstream topic than it is now.

    I was listening to a discussion between a French 'souverainiste' leader (these are the guys who want to leave the EU, a type of retro-Gaullist) and a young identitarian writer the other day where they agreed that it will be hard for the next generation or two and harsh measures may need to be taken against 'degenerate whites', those who won't stop promoting policies that threaten the survival and safety of the native population.

    Something like that seems possible in the UK as well, the French may be just ahead in thinking it through.

    Russia doesn't seem a major factor, there are deeper cultural/political trends behind the issue in Western Europe. Also seems likely this is going to happen too quickly for large numbers of immigrants to get into Poland or the Baltics before the political and social costs of prolonged mass-immigration from outside Europe start to become clearer.

    Replies: @LatW

    I think it was after 1997 really, iirc immigration started moving into the ~200,000 a year and more range then. Before it was something like 50,000 a year, both European and non-European. So they only made the decision to switch to a mass migration policy about 25 years ago.

    Of course, that coincides with the triumph period of neoliberalism. They were too nonchalant about its effects. Since I’m not big into conspiracies, I’m just assuming they didn’t look too much into the future but decided to make money fast.

    Do you think this may have had something to do with Diana’s death? That was a trauma and sometimes the royal family is the one that holds everyone and everything together. You know, kind of like, when a pearl necklace bursts open and falls on the ground with all the pearls scattering, having gone loose…

    I’m sure there was a neoliberal push to more immigration, however, wasn’t the ground for this laid already during the Marxist revolutions of the 1960s? Probably not to the extent as in France, the UK seems more conservative.

    Maybe one of the issues for the British is that they may have taken on the role of setting the rules for the world (at least, the so called “free world”), and, being in that position, one has to be open and show by example. Otherwise, if you change that paradigm, and communicate that “Britain needs protection, too”, it may sound as if Britain is “weak”, it’s a paradigm reversal and potential abandonment of a world leader status. The US has the same issue as well, however, the US is huge, with lots of free space, while Britain is a small island, with limited space. And the various British peoples are indigenous and separate ethnies, and not an artificially created mixed nation.

    Although the debate in the UK is probably way beyond that by now, because it’s a de facto multi-cultural reality now with Indian leadership.

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    It seems like as long as there was a working class trade union movement and enough people who were educated during the period the empire still existed, there was enough popular pressure to maintain a restrictive system, but once these things started to fade the globalist tendencies came back, the lure of the low cost labour, divide and rule possibilities and so on.

    Yes, this is understandable, and again coincides with the triumphant march of neoliberalism. (Just a note here on EEs: most regular people thought we would jump straight into the Swedish system in 1991, not the neoliberal one, oops!). I wonder if the ideologies prevailing in the UK contributed to the dismantling of the trade union systems more so than they did in Scandinavia where those seemed to be deeply entrenched and probably connected to some sort of a nationalism (self-preservation of the nation more so than some abstract socialist ideas of equality and fairness even if it is phrased that way). The UK is perceived as having a more individualist ideology. Then again the Labour Party must have undergone some serious changes. Btw, the Scandis haven’t been entirely immune from this either (although they are better about not allowing their population to be ravaged – I know their nationalists would disagree, haha).

    In another 10 years I guess the UK will be 28%+ non-white and counting

    When it gets to that point, it will be very serious (at that point it starts affecting mate choices, with such a large number of foreigners, it is inevitable to affect the mating pool). I read somewhere, in the context of Latvia’s situation with the colonists, that one should never exceed something like 20% of foreigners in their land and that beyond that it gets dangerous. I forgot the exact number, but it was way below 30% (that was already considered red lights).

    Once you separate race from the identity narrative (the “white British” distinction), then you’re on a slippery slope.

    young identitarian writer the other day where they agreed that it will be hard for the next generation or two and harsh measures may need to be taken against ‘degenerate whites’, those who won’t stop promoting policies that threaten the survival and safety of the native population.

    This is a matter where smart and assertive men need to arrive at a point where they are able to take matters in their own hands, due to the urgent nature of the situation, but of course they need to be backed by a wide consensus (from at least a part of the public that will support them). Certain political decisions that have been allowed in certain Euro countries reached a critical point a long time ago, the problem is that anything is futile, unless there is significant support (and enough of those who are ready to sacrifice). You don’t want to sacrifice brave men in futile actions knowing that it could be counterproductive.

    Something like that seems possible in the UK as well, the French may be just ahead in thinking it through.

    You feel that France if more progressive that way? 🙂 Jk. The French are more outspoken and ready for action, the English maybe a bit more conservative. It would be great to have some British “conservative revolution” (ok, turn or pivot, revolution sounds too radical). Preferably highly educated ones as they would have global authority.

    Btw, Arestovych in his recent rants (he made a bit of a U-turn), has been saying things like “There is a de facto civil war going on in the US, ideologically speaking”. I think it’s a bit exaggerated (it’s a long way for Americans to ruin their own society and to get into physical altercations), however, this is a clear trend now. And war is not always physical.

    I wonder what would be the Euro or British version of it.

    Also seems likely this is going to happen too quickly for large numbers of immigrants to get into Poland or the Baltics before the political and social costs of prolonged mass-immigration from outside Europe start to become clearer.

    You mean it will or won’t become clear soon enough? It feels like it’s changing now. But that’s the thing – as years go by, it always feels like it’s changing, it’s just about to reach the critical mass, yet the frog just keeps on being boiled… only when there are real, physical, legal changes, can we say there’s been a turn, right? Let’s say when they reduce the annual number allowed into the UK, significantly. Or crank down on Muslims heavily (and not just because of Israel but they can use that as an excuse).

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    Crack down on Muslims?

    This is nonsense.


    Segments of London could declare a caliphate right now. Who would fight them? Not that they would, but there’s enough of them to pull it off. Money is too good at the momwnt to risk declaring Islamic London but I don’t see these people being cracked down on.

    , @Coconuts
    @LatW


    I’m sure there was a neoliberal push to more immigration, however, wasn’t the ground for this laid already during the Marxist revolutions of the 1960s? Probably not to the extent as in France, the UK seems more conservative.
     
    I think this is true, anti-racist attitudes and liberal cosmopolitan aspirations started to be promoted more then and started to reach the wider population. Iirc Peter Hitchens has a good argument in his 'Abolition of Britain' book that the reaction to Diana was a sign of how attitudes had been changing and was evidence of how far a new mindset had spread among the public by the 90s.

    The other side of it was that the elite and upper levels of society already had a lot of experience with a global viewpoint from being closer to the empire, was familiar with the economic potential of the populations of the former colonies etc. There seems to have been some convergence between these economic interests and this old imperial culture and the 60s progressives, the British equivalent of the French bobos.


    Maybe one of the issues for the British is that they may have taken on the role of setting the rules for the world (at least, the so called “free world”), and, being in that position, one has to be open and show by example...
     
    It seems important, especially for some of the governing classes, to be seen as a moral leader in the world, still somehow leading progress. This is why they took the Brexit thing so badly and why there is conflict with the views of the working class and the 'somewhere' people, who don't prioritise Britain projecting power and playing this leading role. You can maybe see the difference in perspective between someone like Morgoth the YouTuber, who has a politically aware working class pov and members of the liberal managerial and admin elite, or global businessmen in London. The difference is large.

    I wonder if the ideologies prevailing in the UK contributed to the dismantling of the trade union systems more so than they did in Scandinavia where those seemed to be deeply entrenched and probably connected to some sort of a nationalism (self-preservation of the nation more so than some abstract socialist ideas of equality and fairness even if it is phrased that way).
     
    I associate this with the existence of that gemeinschaft concept in Nordic and Germanic countries that doesn't exist in the same way in the UK. Maybe to some extent but the word folk doesn't seem to carry the same meaning as volk did in Germany say. There is relatively more individualism, British trade unionism was probably more dysfunctional and had more powerful and enterprising enemies among the old business/merchant class. Sometimes Britain seems to be midway between a Germanic and a Latin one, I remember T.S. Eliot said something like this in one of his lectures.

    The Labour party did indeed abandon a lot of the old left-wing socialist culture and adopt a lot of neo-liberalism in the 1990s, before the big election win in '97.


    I read somewhere, in the context of Latvia’s situation with the colonists, that one should never exceed something like 20% of foreigners in their land and that beyond that it gets dangerous. I forgot the exact number, but it was way below 30% (that was already considered red lights).
     
    I've heard something similar, things seem to be confirming it as all the decolonisation stuff and greater assertiveness and prominence on the part of ethnic minorities has coincided with meeting the 20% of the population mark.

    Once you separate race from the identity narrative (the “white British” distinction), then you’re on a slippery slope.
     
    Possibly there has been some haziness on this in Britain because of the feudal influences behind the law and constitution, where things used to be more about lineage than race as such, and they made everyone in the empire a subject of the monarch. I think this was because the citizenship laws were based on old feudal ones about being born under the protection of the king. Oddly I don't think race ever got into UK law as a formal idea until it was introduced with equality legislation (it was in colonial law codes but not in the British Isles).

    You mean it will or won’t become clear soon enough?
     
    I am expecting it will become clearer in time, as the political impact of the demographic change in the Western countries gets harder to ignore. I am thinking in 10 years there should be stronger arguments/examples to use against these policies and more examples to use against too much idealism around immigration.

    only when there are real, physical, legal changes, can we say there’s been a turn, right?
     
    In Britain, imo there would be some progress when there is widespread awareness of the existence of distinct 'white British' or 'old-British' identities that people want to understand and talk about in a kind of normal way. Just the growth in numbers, plus the promotion of CRT style things from the US and the decolonisation agenda should push things in this direction, various commentators talk about this happening. Lately one or two prominent mainstream academics are trying to teach people how to talk about the topic while avoiding progressive traps and counter-arguments, this seems to be progress compared to how things have been.

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  341. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted – quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    Walmart carries Dave's bread and the ingredients are listed.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dave-s-Killer-Bread-21-Whole-Grains-and-Seeds-Organic-Bread-Loaf-27-oz/49342184?athbdg=L1600&from=/search

    You can even call the company and ask about the bread.
    https://www.daveskillerbread.com/

    Tell us exactly how it isn't real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.

    When did you last visit Walmart? 1995?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel

    2018, maybe they got better…:) I checked the ingredients and it is better, but fake – too many chemicals, whenever the list is a full paragraph like the Dave’s bread, you are getting some serious toxins. It is better bread than the white foamy concoction, but not healthy. How much is it? I doubt it goes for AP’s $3.

    Another issue is that US wheat is loaded up with pesticides – it is actually banned in EU because of that, and same for US frozen chickens that are full of antibiotics. Even well-crafted food in US can’t avoid to be made from inferior ingredients. Everything is allowed, because ‘business’…

    Notice that most Europeans don’t have the swollen look of Americans. Some of it is the healthier lifestyle, more walking, less sitting in cars – but it is also better nutrition with fewer toxic substances in food. EU gets ridiculed for many of its rules – bananas must be curved!!! – but it has an impact on the food: it is a lot healthier than in the US.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    2018, maybe they got better…:) I checked the ingredients and it is better, but fake – too many chemicals

    Well let's see this comparable German product. A bread that sits on store shelves and not from a bakery. You do realize that we also have bakeries?

    you are getting some serious toxins

    Which of these ingredients are toxins:
    Organic whole wheat (organic whole wheat flour, organic cracked whole wheat), water, organic cane sugar, organic 21 Whole Grains and Seeds mix (organic whole flax seeds, organic sunflower seeds, organic ground whole flax seeds, organic brown sesame seeds, organic triticale, organic pumpkin seeds, organic rolled barley, organic rolled oats, organic rolled rye, organic black sesame seeds, organic blue cornmeal, organic millet, organic rolled spelt, organic brown rice flour, organic amaranth flour, organic yellow cornmeal, organic KAMUT® khorasan wheat, organic quinoa, organic buckwheat flour, organic sorghum flour, organic poppy seeds), organic wheat gluten, organic oat fiber, contains 2% or less of each of the following: organic molasses, sea salt, yeast, organic vinegar, organic cultured wheat flour, enzymes, organic acerola cherry powder.A

    How much is it? I doubt it goes for AP’s $3.
    5-7 a loaf. Can sometimes get it at costco for 2/8.

    Another issue is that US wheat is loaded up with pesticides – it is actually banned in EU because of that

    Organic wheat is easy to obtain in the US. It basically grows wild in some of the plains states. Meaning they just plant and harvest it.

    US wheat is not banned in the EU. Stop making stuff up.

    Replies: @Beckow

  342. Interesting the distance between white-black = wolf-coyote
    The distance between Europeans or Indians or among themselves is 20x less.

    Different species
    TND

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    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Sher Singh

    Absolutely nothing now said by professional genetics people should be believed. They all will swear under oath the Emperor's garments look dandy. As for the amateurs, well some of them know what they are talking about but you don't dare cite them for any reason.

    If you do your own research you might find the answer is there isn't any way to tell. In Bronze Age Pervert's new book he says modern biology classification would clearly have negro homo sapiens other than the regular homo sapiens. Whenever you read or hear the word clearly the chances are greater than 50-50 they do not know the meaning of their claim.

    When I was in school this was the number one criterion if it could be applied: if they can mate and produce fertile offspring they are the same species. By this criterion negroes and us are the same species. If anybody has a better argument than that I have not seen it.

    Biology does not know what life is yet. It seems to be that should be the thing to be conceded before attempting anything else.

    Replies: @songbird, @Sher Singh

  343. I’m fascinated by this Indian series about British zombies from the Indian Rebellion of 1857.

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betaal

    But not enough to watch it, since it doesn’t seem to have been well-received.

    One aspect that I find puzzling is some of the names behind it. The executive producers:
    Patrick Graham
    Jason Blum
    Jeremy Gold
    Marci Wiseman
    Kilian Kerwin
    John Penotti
    Michael Hogan

    Though I think it is in Hindi.

    Graham wrote or cowrote the series and lives in India. He doesn’t appear to be Indian, near as I can tell, though is slightly dusky. Did he write it in English, and the other writer translate it into Hindi?

    I have also wanted to write Indian films for Netflix, but when I looked up the budget for Extraction, ($65 million) I was discouraged as I thought the dollar would buy more. But perhaps a lot of that was Hemsworth’s salary.

  344. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    the smell of manure
     
    On one of your main streets? Are you suggesting that the ladies are also allowed to raise livestock there? Sorrt Beckow, but you must really live in a hicktown. :-) :-)

    Replies: @Beckow

    I was very precise: the liquor itself smells like manure… Imagine a brightly lit with red lights hole in the wall, liquor probably concocted out of fertilizer, crooked orthodox writing, tipsy Ukie women – this is after dark. It is their “business”, nobody is there, but they keep on drinking…I will take a picture for you…:)

    Look, we have some sympathy for them – they were told on January 1 this year that there are no more freebies, they either work, go on to Germany, or “start a business”…we also have these drop-offs for used clothing in our malls where Ukie women sort old clothes. And, of course, the Ukie barristas everywhere – most claim they were students or office workers and talk about waiting for “visas”, almost all are women.

    I am not unsympathetic, but is this good for the Ukrainian nation? Why would people exchange normal existence for this? We all know it happened because somebody decided that it would be just swell to have Ukraine in Nato…this is Kafka-level absurdity. Putting aside the horrible tragedy for a moment, it will in retrospect look quite funny. Who does that? It is not about “EU”, it is about Nato – Russians say it again and again and you all try to deny it ever more desperately – because you know that dying to be in Nato is simply absurd. Just like that smelly Ukie liquor.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    I was very precise: the liquor itself smells like manure…
     
    You really weren't very precise, but I agree with you that it sounds very tragic. It's too bad that Putler didn't make his grievances about Nato involvement more clear on the eve of his invasion. It seems that "denazification" was his big grievance with Ukraine at that time that needed correction, not any possible Nato involvement?

    In any event, I'm still left wondering what your were doing near the Ukrainian ladies work/encampment in the first place, especially "after dark" ? Just out for a midnight stroll with your pooch? :-)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Beckow

  345. @Sher Singh
    Interesting the distance between white-black = wolf-coyote
    The distance between Europeans or Indians or among themselves is 20x less.

    Different species
    TND



    https://twitter.com/CEBKCEBKCEBK/status/1705415869789077823

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Absolutely nothing now said by professional genetics people should be believed. They all will swear under oath the Emperor’s garments look dandy. As for the amateurs, well some of them know what they are talking about but you don’t dare cite them for any reason.

    If you do your own research you might find the answer is there isn’t any way to tell. In Bronze Age Pervert’s new book he says modern biology classification would clearly have negro homo sapiens other than the regular homo sapiens. Whenever you read or hear the word clearly the chances are greater than 50-50 they do not know the meaning of their claim.

    When I was in school this was the number one criterion if it could be applied: if they can mate and produce fertile offspring they are the same species. By this criterion negroes and us are the same species. If anybody has a better argument than that I have not seen it.

    Biology does not know what life is yet. It seems to be that should be the thing to be conceded before attempting anything else.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That is the remarkable thing as dogs/wolves/coyotes all have significantly different behaviors and characteristics but are interbreedable.

    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.

    Replies: @S, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    , @Sher Singh
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    You're a cuck.

    TND

  346. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Sher Singh

    Absolutely nothing now said by professional genetics people should be believed. They all will swear under oath the Emperor's garments look dandy. As for the amateurs, well some of them know what they are talking about but you don't dare cite them for any reason.

    If you do your own research you might find the answer is there isn't any way to tell. In Bronze Age Pervert's new book he says modern biology classification would clearly have negro homo sapiens other than the regular homo sapiens. Whenever you read or hear the word clearly the chances are greater than 50-50 they do not know the meaning of their claim.

    When I was in school this was the number one criterion if it could be applied: if they can mate and produce fertile offspring they are the same species. By this criterion negroes and us are the same species. If anybody has a better argument than that I have not seen it.

    Biology does not know what life is yet. It seems to be that should be the thing to be conceded before attempting anything else.

    Replies: @songbird, @Sher Singh

    That is the remarkable thing as dogs/wolves/coyotes all have significantly different behaviors and characteristics but are interbreedable.

    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.

    • Replies: @S
    @songbird


    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.
     
    The Bonobos at their Wiki entry are described as being 'matriarchal and 'gender balanced' as opposed to the evil warlike Chimps.

    Can't tell how much (if any) of this may have been politicized, so reader beware.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

    Bonobos are unusual among apes for their matriarchal social structure (extensive overlap between the male and female hierarchies leads some to refer to them as gender-balanced in their power structure).
     
    Ape does not kill ape... :-)

    Bonobos are not known to kill each other, and are generally less violent than chimpanzees,
     

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC

    , @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @songbird

    LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE.

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLnXa07scW-b73EXJP_oMGmK1zIq610m0tnA&usqp.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  347. @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1
     
    An absurd lie you cretinous moron.

    other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

     

    Yuryev ( now Tartu) in Estonia was declared Bolshevik even before Saint Petersburg! Simply wrong to say majority Estonians and Latvians didn't want Communism. Much of the "nationalist" movements that resisted against the Communists ( who were fighting about 100 different wars at the same time) were Tsarist loyal Whites in these countries.

    Most of the "nationalist" fighting against the Soviets was funded by the western powers and organised by the Baltic German landowners in Estonia and Latvia.

    As is logical, you idiot - most of the ethnic Latvians and Estonians ( who were poor, uneducated, slow and landless) wanted what the Communists could give them - increased rights, land redistributed in the favour, punishment of the bourgeious Baltic Germans who had f**ked them over for years etc .

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @John Johnson

    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1

    An absurd lie you cretinous moron.

    So you would call giving into German demands to cede 30% of the Russian empire as winning?

    Brest-Litovsk was never negotiated. The Germans made their demands and Lenin accepted.

    other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

    Yuryev ( now Tartu) in Estonia was declared Bolshevik even before Saint Petersburg! Simply wrong to say majority Estonians and Latvians didn’t want Communism.

    A Communist takeover is not evidence that a majority supported Communism.

    You are saying a majority of Estonians would have voted in Communists?

    Why did the Communists take the country in a coup if they had majority support?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_War_of_Independence

  348. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    2018, maybe they got better...:) I checked the ingredients and it is better, but fake - too many chemicals, whenever the list is a full paragraph like the Dave's bread, you are getting some serious toxins. It is better bread than the white foamy concoction, but not healthy. How much is it? I doubt it goes for AP's $3.

    Another issue is that US wheat is loaded up with pesticides - it is actually banned in EU because of that, and same for US frozen chickens that are full of antibiotics. Even well-crafted food in US can't avoid to be made from inferior ingredients. Everything is allowed, because 'business'...

    Notice that most Europeans don't have the swollen look of Americans. Some of it is the healthier lifestyle, more walking, less sitting in cars - but it is also better nutrition with fewer toxic substances in food. EU gets ridiculed for many of its rules - bananas must be curved!!! - but it has an impact on the food: it is a lot healthier than in the US.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    2018, maybe they got better…:) I checked the ingredients and it is better, but fake – too many chemicals

    Well let’s see this comparable German product. A bread that sits on store shelves and not from a bakery. You do realize that we also have bakeries?

    you are getting some serious toxins

    Which of these ingredients are toxins:
    Organic whole wheat (organic whole wheat flour, organic cracked whole wheat), water, organic cane sugar, organic 21 Whole Grains and Seeds mix (organic whole flax seeds, organic sunflower seeds, organic ground whole flax seeds, organic brown sesame seeds, organic triticale, organic pumpkin seeds, organic rolled barley, organic rolled oats, organic rolled rye, organic black sesame seeds, organic blue cornmeal, organic millet, organic rolled spelt, organic brown rice flour, organic amaranth flour, organic yellow cornmeal, organic KAMUT® khorasan wheat, organic quinoa, organic buckwheat flour, organic sorghum flour, organic poppy seeds), organic wheat gluten, organic oat fiber, contains 2% or less of each of the following: organic molasses, sea salt, yeast, organic vinegar, organic cultured wheat flour, enzymes, organic acerola cherry powder.A

    How much is it? I doubt it goes for AP’s $3.
    5-7 a loaf. Can sometimes get it at costco for 2/8.

    Another issue is that US wheat is loaded up with pesticides – it is actually banned in EU because of that

    Organic wheat is easy to obtain in the US. It basically grows wild in some of the plains states. Meaning they just plant and harvest it.

    US wheat is not banned in the EU. Stop making stuff up.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    US wheat has toxic chemicals banned in EU - only small amounts that don't use it are allowed.

    This is the official line:
    American wheat is covered in glyphosate. Glyphosate is a herbicide used on American wheat to kill bacteria, dry out and prepare the wheat crop for harvest.

    For the same reason Ukie wheat was banned from EU unless certifed that they don't use it. EU is a pretty silly organization, but this they get right. Europeans eat healthier food.

    You didn't answer my question: why are Americans so visibly inflamed? They often look swollen and the pure specimens can easily be spotted on a street in Europe. It is not horribly bad for you, but it slowly changes your genetics - and the fatness that comes with that lifestyle. Instead of denying it you should try to get more people to eat better. But many (80%?) don't have the money for higher quality food.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

  349. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That is the remarkable thing as dogs/wolves/coyotes all have significantly different behaviors and characteristics but are interbreedable.

    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.

    Replies: @S, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.

    The Bonobos at their Wiki entry are described as being ‘matriarchal and ‘gender balanced’ as opposed to the evil warlike Chimps.

    Can’t tell how much (if any) of this may have been politicized, so reader beware.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

    Bonobos are unusual among apes for their matriarchal social structure (extensive overlap between the male and female hierarchies leads some to refer to them as gender-balanced in their power structure).

    Ape does not kill ape… 🙂

    Bonobos are not known to kill each other, and are generally less violent than chimpanzees,

    • Replies: @songbird
    @S


    Can’t tell how much (if any) of this may have been politicized, so reader beware.
     
    Yes, there are a few caveats. One being that the number of chimps is anywhere from 5x-10x the number of bonobos, so there are undoubtedly more observations of chimps, interactions with humans, and reports.

    The other is that reports of them seem somewhat politicized by feminists. The way some of them read, the difference is that the females use sex to control the males by having sex with more males and helping make peace between them, or something like that. Obvious BS. If you plopped all the females down in chimp territory, it is very unlikely they would make the males more peaceful.

    That said, I suspect that there probably is some difference in levels of aggression as bonobos have more gracilized skulls and thinner chests and are almost fruitarians, like crazy hippies.

    Though, chimps are pretty variegated themselves. There was that fellow nicknamed "Oliver the Humanzee" (who, though not a true humanzee, had an interesting appearance and personality)

    Ape does not kill ape… 🙂
     
    Makes me wonder if they have ever been depicted in one of those movies (a chance to get in a feminist message), though I guess in such a scenario, they would probably hybridize with chimps.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @QCIC
    @S

    Bonobos were strongly politicized by Carl Sagan's wife (second?) and co-author. I think she reported that these primates have an "open relationship" sex life which was promoted as nature's model for humans...or something like that.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @S

  350. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    That is the remarkable thing as dogs/wolves/coyotes all have significantly different behaviors and characteristics but are interbreedable.

    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.

    Replies: @S, @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE.

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    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/lion.jpeg

  351. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    I was very precise: the liquor itself smells like manure... Imagine a brightly lit with red lights hole in the wall, liquor probably concocted out of fertilizer, crooked orthodox writing, tipsy Ukie women - this is after dark. It is their "business", nobody is there, but they keep on drinking...I will take a picture for you...:)

    Look, we have some sympathy for them - they were told on January 1 this year that there are no more freebies, they either work, go on to Germany, or "start a business"...we also have these drop-offs for used clothing in our malls where Ukie women sort old clothes. And, of course, the Ukie barristas everywhere - most claim they were students or office workers and talk about waiting for "visas", almost all are women.

    I am not unsympathetic, but is this good for the Ukrainian nation? Why would people exchange normal existence for this? We all know it happened because somebody decided that it would be just swell to have Ukraine in Nato...this is Kafka-level absurdity. Putting aside the horrible tragedy for a moment, it will in retrospect look quite funny. Who does that? It is not about "EU", it is about Nato - Russians say it again and again and you all try to deny it ever more desperately - because you know that dying to be in Nato is simply absurd. Just like that smelly Ukie liquor.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I was very precise: the liquor itself smells like manure…

    You really weren’t very precise, but I agree with you that it sounds very tragic. It’s too bad that Putler didn’t make his grievances about Nato involvement more clear on the eve of his invasion. It seems that “denazification” was his big grievance with Ukraine at that time that needed correction, not any possible Nato involvement?

    In any event, I’m still left wondering what your were doing near the Ukrainian ladies work/encampment in the first place, especially “after dark” ? Just out for a midnight stroll with your pooch? 🙂

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    The question is this: what are Ukrainian women doing in work camps in Slovakia near Beckow?

    The Ukies were dumb enough to elect a Jew King.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Russia - Putin if you prefer to be simplistic - has made it absolutely clear for 10 years that the Nato expansion to Ukraine is a red line. They said it at every occasion and in every speech - they published it in the proposed peace in 2021. You just didn't want to hear it.

    The West has intentionally downplayed it and kept on talking about "denazification, EU, re-creating Soviet Union (?)". Because "Ukraine in Nato" is a weak selling point - even the dumber people see it as what it is: an open threat to Russia and a provocation.

    The media is still doing it: at his teleconference Putin said the war is about Kiev's neutrality and no Nato, demilitarization, denazification...NY Times only listed the last two - in the one-page article there was no mention of Nato. Is that "free" media? It is an attempt to deny the obvious. You can fool yourself, but you won't win the war that way. It only adds lies by omission to the tragedy.

    Re. the liquor store: it gets dark early and very cold. The sad spectacle of the tipsy Ukies ladies who should be doing better things with their lives is symbolic: they are in "Europe", the good and the bad, their country is getting destroyed and their men are missing - what was it all for? They tried 20 years earlier with the "Orange Revolution" of 2004 - it was a total fiasco. But they did it again with "Maidan" and now they drink foul-smelling liquor in "Europe" with temporary residence permits and live on hand-outs.

    You talk about Putin and I about the neo-cons - but it is mostly self-inflicted like most tragedies. Ukies did it to themselves. Now what?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  352. @LatW
    @Coconuts


    I think it was after 1997 really, iirc immigration started moving into the ~200,000 a year and more range then. Before it was something like 50,000 a year, both European and non-European. So they only made the decision to switch to a mass migration policy about 25 years ago.
     
    Of course, that coincides with the triumph period of neoliberalism. They were too nonchalant about its effects. Since I'm not big into conspiracies, I'm just assuming they didn't look too much into the future but decided to make money fast.

    Do you think this may have had something to do with Diana's death? That was a trauma and sometimes the royal family is the one that holds everyone and everything together. You know, kind of like, when a pearl necklace bursts open and falls on the ground with all the pearls scattering, having gone loose...

    I'm sure there was a neoliberal push to more immigration, however, wasn't the ground for this laid already during the Marxist revolutions of the 1960s? Probably not to the extent as in France, the UK seems more conservative.

    Maybe one of the issues for the British is that they may have taken on the role of setting the rules for the world (at least, the so called "free world"), and, being in that position, one has to be open and show by example. Otherwise, if you change that paradigm, and communicate that "Britain needs protection, too", it may sound as if Britain is "weak", it's a paradigm reversal and potential abandonment of a world leader status. The US has the same issue as well, however, the US is huge, with lots of free space, while Britain is a small island, with limited space. And the various British peoples are indigenous and separate ethnies, and not an artificially created mixed nation.

    Although the debate in the UK is probably way beyond that by now, because it's a de facto multi-cultural reality now with Indian leadership.


    It seems like as long as there was a working class trade union movement and enough people who were educated during the period the empire still existed, there was enough popular pressure to maintain a restrictive system, but once these things started to fade the globalist tendencies came back, the lure of the low cost labour, divide and rule possibilities and so on.
     
    Yes, this is understandable, and again coincides with the triumphant march of neoliberalism. (Just a note here on EEs: most regular people thought we would jump straight into the Swedish system in 1991, not the neoliberal one, oops!). I wonder if the ideologies prevailing in the UK contributed to the dismantling of the trade union systems more so than they did in Scandinavia where those seemed to be deeply entrenched and probably connected to some sort of a nationalism (self-preservation of the nation more so than some abstract socialist ideas of equality and fairness even if it is phrased that way). The UK is perceived as having a more individualist ideology. Then again the Labour Party must have undergone some serious changes. Btw, the Scandis haven't been entirely immune from this either (although they are better about not allowing their population to be ravaged - I know their nationalists would disagree, haha).

    In another 10 years I guess the UK will be 28%+ non-white and counting
     
    When it gets to that point, it will be very serious (at that point it starts affecting mate choices, with such a large number of foreigners, it is inevitable to affect the mating pool). I read somewhere, in the context of Latvia's situation with the colonists, that one should never exceed something like 20% of foreigners in their land and that beyond that it gets dangerous. I forgot the exact number, but it was way below 30% (that was already considered red lights).

    Once you separate race from the identity narrative (the "white British" distinction), then you're on a slippery slope.


    young identitarian writer the other day where they agreed that it will be hard for the next generation or two and harsh measures may need to be taken against ‘degenerate whites’, those who won’t stop promoting policies that threaten the survival and safety of the native population.
     
    This is a matter where smart and assertive men need to arrive at a point where they are able to take matters in their own hands, due to the urgent nature of the situation, but of course they need to be backed by a wide consensus (from at least a part of the public that will support them). Certain political decisions that have been allowed in certain Euro countries reached a critical point a long time ago, the problem is that anything is futile, unless there is significant support (and enough of those who are ready to sacrifice). You don't want to sacrifice brave men in futile actions knowing that it could be counterproductive.

    Something like that seems possible in the UK as well, the French may be just ahead in thinking it through.
     
    You feel that France if more progressive that way? :) Jk. The French are more outspoken and ready for action, the English maybe a bit more conservative. It would be great to have some British "conservative revolution" (ok, turn or pivot, revolution sounds too radical). Preferably highly educated ones as they would have global authority.

    Btw, Arestovych in his recent rants (he made a bit of a U-turn), has been saying things like "There is a de facto civil war going on in the US, ideologically speaking". I think it's a bit exaggerated (it's a long way for Americans to ruin their own society and to get into physical altercations), however, this is a clear trend now. And war is not always physical.

    I wonder what would be the Euro or British version of it.


    Also seems likely this is going to happen too quickly for large numbers of immigrants to get into Poland or the Baltics before the political and social costs of prolonged mass-immigration from outside Europe start to become clearer.
     
    You mean it will or won't become clear soon enough? It feels like it's changing now. But that's the thing - as years go by, it always feels like it's changing, it's just about to reach the critical mass, yet the frog just keeps on being boiled... only when there are real, physical, legal changes, can we say there's been a turn, right? Let's say when they reduce the annual number allowed into the UK, significantly. Or crank down on Muslims heavily (and not just because of Israel but they can use that as an excuse).

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Coconuts

    Crack down on Muslims?

    This is nonsense.

    Segments of London could declare a caliphate right now. Who would fight them? Not that they would, but there’s enough of them to pull it off. Money is too good at the momwnt to risk declaring Islamic London but I don’t see these people being cracked down on.

  353. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    I was very precise: the liquor itself smells like manure…
     
    You really weren't very precise, but I agree with you that it sounds very tragic. It's too bad that Putler didn't make his grievances about Nato involvement more clear on the eve of his invasion. It seems that "denazification" was his big grievance with Ukraine at that time that needed correction, not any possible Nato involvement?

    In any event, I'm still left wondering what your were doing near the Ukrainian ladies work/encampment in the first place, especially "after dark" ? Just out for a midnight stroll with your pooch? :-)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Beckow

    The question is this: what are Ukrainian women doing in work camps in Slovakia near Beckow?

    The Ukies were dumb enough to elect a Jew King.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke


    The question is this: what are Ukrainian women doing in work camps in Slovakia near Beckow?
     
    That's an easy one: It all started when the Ruskies were dumb enough to elect a KGB thug:

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/03/article-2572486-1C03CA3D00000578-4_964x671.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  354. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Sher Singh

    Absolutely nothing now said by professional genetics people should be believed. They all will swear under oath the Emperor's garments look dandy. As for the amateurs, well some of them know what they are talking about but you don't dare cite them for any reason.

    If you do your own research you might find the answer is there isn't any way to tell. In Bronze Age Pervert's new book he says modern biology classification would clearly have negro homo sapiens other than the regular homo sapiens. Whenever you read or hear the word clearly the chances are greater than 50-50 they do not know the meaning of their claim.

    When I was in school this was the number one criterion if it could be applied: if they can mate and produce fertile offspring they are the same species. By this criterion negroes and us are the same species. If anybody has a better argument than that I have not seen it.

    Biology does not know what life is yet. It seems to be that should be the thing to be conceded before attempting anything else.

    Replies: @songbird, @Sher Singh

    You’re a cuck.

    TND

  355. @LatW
    @S


    ".. the magnificent, centuries-old life that had reigned throughout the entire great expanse of Russia.."
     
    Especially starting at 8:13...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gby5qSOwtSM

    Replies: @S

    Thanks for the film clip.

    Some of those filmed looked like WW I Austria-Hungarian POW’s. I’d once read that the Russians were quite proud how well treated these POW’s were in comparison to past wars. Good for them.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @S


    Some of those filmed looked like WW I Austria-Hungarian POW’s
     
    Yes, those were Austrian POWs, you're correct. In this digitalized version, it's so funny how they all look almost the same. It must be a type in Austria.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  356. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr_Chow_Mein

    The Yemen tribes are a wild bunch. In Dorrill's MI6 book he said that only one MI6 officer in the history of the branch at that time had been killed in the line of duty. It was in Yemen in 1963 or so. They cut off the guy's head and paraded it on a stick.

    Replies: @S

    In Dorrill’s MI6 book he said that only one MI6 officer in the history of the branch at that time had been killed in the line of duty. It was in Yemen in 1963 or so. They cut off the guy’s head and paraded it on a stick.

    And, to think, that in past ages the Brits would of went to war over something like that. 🙂

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jenkins%27_Ear

    • Replies: @songbird
    @S

    Nowadays, when I think of the name Jenkins, I think of the woke director of the atrocious Wonder Woman movies, Patty Jenkins.

    Have only seen the first one, but they had an Indian (feather) character that was seemingly added just to make Euros feel guilty. And some North African character whose dream was to be an actor but who was the "wrong color." Germans were of course very evil, though it was WWI.

    BTW, there was once an interesting conflict in Ireland which the natives called "War of the Fillip."(though I forget the Irish.)


    ARCHAIC
    a movement made by bending the last joint of the finger against the thumb and suddenly releasing it; a flick of the finger
     
    No wiki page.

    But basically, one Norman flicked another Norman's nose, when he was supposed to be under safe conduct. The guy who had his nose flicked then went native and allied with some clan that his family had attempted to massacre at the dinner table about a hundred years before. IIRC, they were quite successful, until an army being landed forced them to peace.

    Replies: @S

    , @Wokechoke
    @S

    The siege of Cartegena was a disaster for all involved. Also George Washington’s older brother was in the Royal Marines in that battle.

  357. @S
    @songbird


    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.
     
    The Bonobos at their Wiki entry are described as being 'matriarchal and 'gender balanced' as opposed to the evil warlike Chimps.

    Can't tell how much (if any) of this may have been politicized, so reader beware.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

    Bonobos are unusual among apes for their matriarchal social structure (extensive overlap between the male and female hierarchies leads some to refer to them as gender-balanced in their power structure).
     
    Ape does not kill ape... :-)

    Bonobos are not known to kill each other, and are generally less violent than chimpanzees,
     

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC

    Can’t tell how much (if any) of this may have been politicized, so reader beware.

    Yes, there are a few caveats. One being that the number of chimps is anywhere from 5x-10x the number of bonobos, so there are undoubtedly more observations of chimps, interactions with humans, and reports.

    [MORE]

    The other is that reports of them seem somewhat politicized by feminists. The way some of them read, the difference is that the females use sex to control the males by having sex with more males and helping make peace between them, or something like that. Obvious BS. If you plopped all the females down in chimp territory, it is very unlikely they would make the males more peaceful.

    That said, I suspect that there probably is some difference in levels of aggression as bonobos have more gracilized skulls and thinner chests and are almost fruitarians, like crazy hippies.

    Though, chimps are pretty variegated themselves. There was that fellow nicknamed “Oliver the Humanzee” (who, though not a true humanzee, had an interesting appearance and personality)

    Ape does not kill ape… 🙂

    Makes me wonder if they have ever been depicted in one of those movies (a chance to get in a feminist message), though I guess in such a scenario, they would probably hybridize with chimps.

    • Thanks: S
    • Replies: @songbird
    @songbird

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koba_(Planet_of_the_Apes)

  358. @songbird
    @S


    Can’t tell how much (if any) of this may have been politicized, so reader beware.
     
    Yes, there are a few caveats. One being that the number of chimps is anywhere from 5x-10x the number of bonobos, so there are undoubtedly more observations of chimps, interactions with humans, and reports.

    The other is that reports of them seem somewhat politicized by feminists. The way some of them read, the difference is that the females use sex to control the males by having sex with more males and helping make peace between them, or something like that. Obvious BS. If you plopped all the females down in chimp territory, it is very unlikely they would make the males more peaceful.

    That said, I suspect that there probably is some difference in levels of aggression as bonobos have more gracilized skulls and thinner chests and are almost fruitarians, like crazy hippies.

    Though, chimps are pretty variegated themselves. There was that fellow nicknamed "Oliver the Humanzee" (who, though not a true humanzee, had an interesting appearance and personality)

    Ape does not kill ape… 🙂
     
    Makes me wonder if they have ever been depicted in one of those movies (a chance to get in a feminist message), though I guess in such a scenario, they would probably hybridize with chimps.

    Replies: @songbird

  359. @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    The question is this: what are Ukrainian women doing in work camps in Slovakia near Beckow?

    The Ukies were dumb enough to elect a Jew King.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The question is this: what are Ukrainian women doing in work camps in Slovakia near Beckow?

    That’s an easy one: It all started when the Ruskies were dumb enough to elect a KGB thug:

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    Until Zelenskyy got on the scene this bout of unpleasantness was well under control.

  360. @S
    @songbird


    Bonobos and chimps seem fairly interbreedable too. Not sure if the former would bite your face off or steal and eat your infant, but not certain about it.
     
    The Bonobos at their Wiki entry are described as being 'matriarchal and 'gender balanced' as opposed to the evil warlike Chimps.

    Can't tell how much (if any) of this may have been politicized, so reader beware.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

    Bonobos are unusual among apes for their matriarchal social structure (extensive overlap between the male and female hierarchies leads some to refer to them as gender-balanced in their power structure).
     
    Ape does not kill ape... :-)

    Bonobos are not known to kill each other, and are generally less violent than chimpanzees,
     

    Replies: @songbird, @QCIC

    Bonobos were strongly politicized by Carl Sagan’s wife (second?) and co-author. I think she reported that these primates have an “open relationship” sex life which was promoted as nature’s model for humans…or something like that.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    You probably could get your biology phd paid for and subsequent career set looking for a needle haystack gene marker on why bonobos are so peaceful and loving. They are probably diverse, vegan, and don't litter for bonus points.

    Do they have a wikipedia page on the Gaza hostilities yet? That must be a real piece of work.

    , @S
    @QCIC


    Bonobos were strongly politicized by Carl Sagan’s wife (second?) and co-author.
     
    Yeah, reading their Wiki entry it sounds as though the 'woke' have decided to make the poor Bonobos their unofficial animal mascot.

    However, I have little doubt a 'woke' Bonobo will just as readily rip a person's face off as their 'non-woke' Chimp cousins. :-)
  361. @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    In Dorrill’s MI6 book he said that only one MI6 officer in the history of the branch at that time had been killed in the line of duty. It was in Yemen in 1963 or so. They cut off the guy’s head and paraded it on a stick.
     
    And, to think, that in past ages the Brits would of went to war over something like that. :-)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jenkins%27_Ear

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    Nowadays, when I think of the name Jenkins, I think of the woke director of the atrocious Wonder Woman movies, Patty Jenkins.

    [MORE]

    Have only seen the first one, but they had an Indian (feather) character that was seemingly added just to make Euros feel guilty. And some North African character whose dream was to be an actor but who was the “wrong color.” Germans were of course very evil, though it was WWI.

    BTW, there was once an interesting conflict in Ireland which the natives called “War of the Fillip.”(though I forget the Irish.)

    ARCHAIC
    a movement made by bending the last joint of the finger against the thumb and suddenly releasing it; a flick of the finger

    No wiki page.

    But basically, one Norman flicked another Norman’s nose, when he was supposed to be under safe conduct. The guy who had his nose flicked then went native and allied with some clan that his family had attempted to massacre at the dinner table about a hundred years before. IIRC, they were quite successful, until an army being landed forced them to peace.

    • Replies: @S
    @songbird


    The guy who had his nose flicked then went native and allied with some clan that his family had attempted to massacre at the dinner table about a hundred years before.
     
    Ireland seems to have been an exceptionally violent place at one time. :-D

    It's good that nowadays things seem to have settled down a little bit in that regard.
  362. Here is an interesting clip related to the Ukraine war and Trump. I don’t watch this channel, the algos threw this video at me. Relevant part starts at 2:45.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC


    A clip from 2016 has resurfaced and it's shocking. In it, Sen. Lindsey Graham tells Ukrainian soldiers that "2017 will be the year of offense" against Russia. So, was this a lie, or was the plan to start a war thwarted? Glenn questions how odd it is that before Trump took office, American war mongers were talking about a Ukrainian/Russian war and then right after Trump left, the war began. Have American politicians been planning for this war for 7 years? Did Trump's presidency delay it?
     
    Merkel was clearly planning her war since 2014 when she put forth the Minsk Agreement in bad faith. Her, now openly admitted, arm up for Ukrainian aggression was 2 years in the making before this video.

    Would the U.S. establishment have backed Germany/NATO? Almost certainly. Hillary Clinton was a model NeoConDemocrat. Remember her cackling over the dead in Benghazi. McCain and Graham would have willingly followed the Merkel/Hillary script.

    That the video was made in December, after Trump won is edifying. They though that they would be able to control him. They were wrong.

     
    https://joannenova.com.au/wp-content/presidents-wars.jpg
     

    Did Trump's presidency delay it? -- Certainly. A detente with Russia would have prevented the Germany/NATO plan. This is one of the reasons why the "Russia, Russia, Russia" myth was kept alive for so long.

    As soon as Not-The-President Biden was illegally installed in office, elite European leadership once again gained the ability to direct the U.S. establishment. The result of that corruption is self evident.

    PEACE 😇
  363. @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    In Dorrill’s MI6 book he said that only one MI6 officer in the history of the branch at that time had been killed in the line of duty. It was in Yemen in 1963 or so. They cut off the guy’s head and paraded it on a stick.
     
    And, to think, that in past ages the Brits would of went to war over something like that. :-)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jenkins%27_Ear

    Replies: @songbird, @Wokechoke

    The siege of Cartegena was a disaster for all involved. Also George Washington’s older brother was in the Royal Marines in that battle.

    • Thanks: S
  364. @Mr. Hack
    @Wokechoke


    The question is this: what are Ukrainian women doing in work camps in Slovakia near Beckow?
     
    That's an easy one: It all started when the Ruskies were dumb enough to elect a KGB thug:

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/03/article-2572486-1C03CA3D00000578-4_964x671.jpg

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Until Zelenskyy got on the scene this bout of unpleasantness was well under control.

  365. @QCIC
    Here is an interesting clip related to the Ukraine war and Trump. I don't watch this channel, the algos threw this video at me. Relevant part starts at 2:45.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7orM3bxc2U

    Replies: @A123

    A clip from 2016 has resurfaced and it’s shocking. In it, Sen. Lindsey Graham tells Ukrainian soldiers that “2017 will be the year of offense” against Russia. So, was this a lie, or was the plan to start a war thwarted? Glenn questions how odd it is that before Trump took office, American war mongers were talking about a Ukrainian/Russian war and then right after Trump left, the war began. Have American politicians been planning for this war for 7 years? Did Trump’s presidency delay it?

    Merkel was clearly planning her war since 2014 when she put forth the Minsk Agreement in bad faith. Her, now openly admitted, arm up for Ukrainian aggression was 2 years in the making before this video.

    Would the U.S. establishment have backed Germany/NATO? Almost certainly. Hillary Clinton was a model NeoConDemocrat. Remember her cackling over the dead in Benghazi. McCain and Graham would have willingly followed the Merkel/Hillary script.

    That the video was made in December, after Trump won is edifying. They though that they would be able to control him. They were wrong.

     

     

    Did Trump’s presidency delay it? — Certainly. A detente with Russia would have prevented the Germany/NATO plan. This is one of the reasons why the “Russia, Russia, Russia” myth was kept alive for so long.

    As soon as Not-The-President Biden was illegally installed in office, elite European leadership once again gained the ability to direct the U.S. establishment. The result of that corruption is self evident.

    PEACE 😇

  366. @QCIC
    @S

    Bonobos were strongly politicized by Carl Sagan's wife (second?) and co-author. I think she reported that these primates have an "open relationship" sex life which was promoted as nature's model for humans...or something like that.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @S

    You probably could get your biology phd paid for and subsequent career set looking for a needle haystack gene marker on why bonobos are so peaceful and loving. They are probably diverse, vegan, and don’t litter for bonus points.

    Do they have a wikipedia page on the Gaza hostilities yet? That must be a real piece of work.

  367. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @songbird

    LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE.

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLnXa07scW-b73EXJP_oMGmK1zIq610m0tnA&usqp.jpg

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  368. @John Johnson
    @S

    This is a good eyewitness account of the Russian Civil War entitled Cursed Days; A Diary of Revolution by Ivan Bunin. The term ‘civil war’ seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    It's not a misnomer. A civil war did occur and with full scale battles involving millions of combatants across multiple countries:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

    The Russian Revolution was more than storming the Kremlin.

    Most of the Russian military chose to back the Communists and then rampaged in not just Russia but Ukraine, Belarus and other neighboring countries where the majority did not want Communism.

    The Russian military got their asses kicked by the Germans in WW1 and then went to war for 6 years against their own kind for the Reds. An extremely dysgenic civil war whereby anyone not wanting to be part of the revolution could just slip into Western Europe or head to the US. Basically anyone with talent that doesn't buy into Marxist bullshit.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @S

    The term ‘civil war’ seems to be a misnomer, as in reality it seemed to be a war led by Communists targeting the organic identity of the Russian people.

    It’s not a misnomer. A civil war did occur and with full scale battles involving millions of combatants across multiple countries:

    I should have clarified.

    The term ‘civil war’ as it is presently defined is so vague as to border on being meaningless.

    The Spanish ‘Civil War’ and the Finnish ‘Civil War’ which are prominently featured at the Wiki entry on ‘civil war’, imo, would more accurately be called ‘dialectical wars’.

    This would be in reference to the Capitalist vs Communist ‘Hegelian dialectic’ which has been at play globally since the respective proto-Capitalist and proto-Communist American and French revolutions of 1776 and 1789, and which many of these modern ‘civil wars’ and ‘revolutions’, with their ‘foreign interventions’, have often been a part, including the Russian Civil War of 1917-23.

    To elaborate, both Capitalism and it’s complimentary sister ideology, Communism, the one with an artificial hyper-individualism, the other with a paralleling hyper-collectivism, are incomplete in and of themselves, and are each innately hostile to any organic identity a people might have, and indeed, war against it.

    Seemingly counter-intuitive, but it’s not, each ideology seeks completeness via dialectical struggle and ultimate synthesis with it’s opposition, ie Capitalism with Communism, and Communism with Capitalism, together forming Global Multi-Culturalism, just as they were designed to do from the time of their late 18th century inception over two hundred years ago.

    I know that’s not how things are taught.

    But it should be! 🙂

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force,_Siberia

  369. @QCIC
    @S

    Bonobos were strongly politicized by Carl Sagan's wife (second?) and co-author. I think she reported that these primates have an "open relationship" sex life which was promoted as nature's model for humans...or something like that.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @S

    Bonobos were strongly politicized by Carl Sagan’s wife (second?) and co-author.

    Yeah, reading their Wiki entry it sounds as though the ‘woke’ have decided to make the poor Bonobos their unofficial animal mascot.

    However, I have little doubt a ‘woke’ Bonobo will just as readily rip a person’s face off as their ‘non-woke’ Chimp cousins. 🙂

  370. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    I was very precise: the liquor itself smells like manure…
     
    You really weren't very precise, but I agree with you that it sounds very tragic. It's too bad that Putler didn't make his grievances about Nato involvement more clear on the eve of his invasion. It seems that "denazification" was his big grievance with Ukraine at that time that needed correction, not any possible Nato involvement?

    In any event, I'm still left wondering what your were doing near the Ukrainian ladies work/encampment in the first place, especially "after dark" ? Just out for a midnight stroll with your pooch? :-)

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Beckow

    Russia – Putin if you prefer to be simplistic – has made it absolutely clear for 10 years that the Nato expansion to Ukraine is a red line. They said it at every occasion and in every speech – they published it in the proposed peace in 2021. You just didn’t want to hear it.

    The West has intentionally downplayed it and kept on talking about “denazification, EU, re-creating Soviet Union (?)“. Because “Ukraine in Nato” is a weak selling point – even the dumber people see it as what it is: an open threat to Russia and a provocation.

    The media is still doing it: at his teleconference Putin said the war is about Kiev’s neutrality and no Nato, demilitarization, denazification…NY Times only listed the last two – in the one-page article there was no mention of Nato. Is that “free” media? It is an attempt to deny the obvious. You can fool yourself, but you won’t win the war that way. It only adds lies by omission to the tragedy.

    Re. the liquor store: it gets dark early and very cold. The sad spectacle of the tipsy Ukies ladies who should be doing better things with their lives is symbolic: they are in “Europe”, the good and the bad, their country is getting destroyed and their men are missing – what was it all for? They tried 20 years earlier with the “Orange Revolution” of 2004 – it was a total fiasco. But they did it again with “Maidan” and now they drink foul-smelling liquor in “Europe” with temporary residence permits and live on hand-outs.

    You talk about Putin and I about the neo-cons – but it is mostly self-inflicted like most tragedies. Ukies did it to themselves. Now what?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    Russia – Putin if you prefer to be simplistic – has made it absolutely clear for 10 years that the Nato expansion to Ukraine is a red line. They said it at every occasion and in every speech – they published it in the proposed peace in 2021. You just didn’t want to hear it.

     

    I agree that the West's promise of eventual NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia specifically back in 2008 was a mistake, when Georgia already had an unresolved territorial dispute and the Ukrainian people still had a strong dislike of NATO. However, from the perspective of 2021, was Putin willing to make significant concessions in exchange for this demand of this, other than not invading Ukraine? Such as ending all Russian military cooperation with China?

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

  371. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    I suppose in WalMart? But Germany has excellent breads, not the discount crap that you posted – quality breads in Germany, the real bread, cost 6 to 8 Euros. And they should, it is worth it.

    Walmart carries Dave's bread and the ingredients are listed.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dave-s-Killer-Bread-21-Whole-Grains-and-Seeds-Organic-Bread-Loaf-27-oz/49342184?athbdg=L1600&from=/search

    You can even call the company and ask about the bread.
    https://www.daveskillerbread.com/

    Tell us exactly how it isn't real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.

    When did you last visit Walmart? 1995?

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mikel

    Walmart carries Dave’s bread and the ingredients are listed …. Tell us exactly how it isn’t real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.

    I know that bread quite well. Smiths/Kroger also carries it and I spent several months buying it regularly. It doesn’t have the look or texture of what our forefathers several generations back would have called ‘bread’ but it does have what appear to be healthy ingredients and its perfectly sliced format allows for easy calorie counting, which is helpful for my low body fat percentage goals.

    However, I finally decided to stop eating that stuff. First, I got tired of the sweet aftertaste. That “organic” cane sugar and molasses listed in the ingredients make their presence be felt much more than necessary (and what do you need sugar and molasses in real bread for anyway?). For obvious reasons (that any non-British European here will understand) I’d never eat that bread along with dishes like steak or seafood but still eating that sweetish stuff with tomato sauce or salad became too annoying.

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave’s bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days. I know that old-fashioned bread baked at home with only 4 ingredients (whole wheat flour, water, salt, yeast) would also keep for a long time but it would get moldy on the surface and people would slice out those moldy parts and give them to the farm animals. Apparently, the sourness of naturally produced yeast has anti mold and antibacterial properties. But Dave’s is clearly a different kind of preservation. A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow’s point. But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you’re lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that’s more difficult in the very rural areas.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave’s bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days.

    That is normal for organic bread.

    What you want to do is freeze half and then just toast it frozen.

    A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    Using natural preservatives in bread goes back hundreds of years so I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

    The bleached bread shipped around the country is certainly poor in nutrition quality compared to old fashioned wheat.

    But you can buy wheat bread that isn't much different than what was available in the 1900s.

    Bread is pretty easy to make. My wife made biscuits the other day from scratch and they were excellent in biscuits n gravy. Much better than those tube biscuits.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel

    , @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow’s point.

    Becow said that you can't find bread in Walmart that is comparable to what would be in a German grocery. He is making a false assumption that you can only buy the $2 bleached bread. That was closer to the truth when Walmart was heavily focused on selling volume. Today they compete with all the major grocers and that includes the megacorp Kroger. In fact I am hoping that Alberton's is purchased by Kroger. I really hate Albertson's and in some rural areas they are the only option.

    But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you’re lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that’s more difficult in the very rural areas.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.

    You'd have to be pretty far off the map to be more than an hour away from a Walmart or Kroger/Safeway.

    You will see those Dollar Generals in the craziest places. Like an abandoned town that only has a gas station and school. I never use them. If I am on a road trip then I stock up at Wally world.

    The other lousy stores in remote areas are the little grocers for RV parks. I wish Walmart would put them out of business. They make their money by exploiting the poor and selling things like batteries with a 500% markup.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW

  372. @AP
    @QCIC


    I think the number of fast food restaurants in the USA has increased disproportionately in the past 20 years
     
    The better quality ones such a Chick Fil-A and In-in-Out, whose food is edible, have expanded but I doubt that McDonald’s has.

    Whole Foods Market (WFM) is an example which requires closer inspection. They were great when the chain was small

     

    They are still decent and maintain some quality control, placing them on a similar level to European or Canadian stores. Their expansion reflects the expansion of the upper middle class public within the USA.

    In the Boston area they sell some very nice breads. In similar WFM stores in some other states the bread is disappointing.

     

    I’ve only been in their stores in the Northeast. I’ve only had good breads there. Comparable to typical European quality (though Quebec is better and cheaper). Their produce and meats are also good. The public is also of generally European proportions.

    Overall, about 20% of Americans fall into the upper middle class. That’s about 60 million people, a France-worth of wealthy, healthy, well dressed people with good foods. In areas with a lot of them such as much of the Northeast they’ve even set the general social trend. It is not small and retreating oases.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. XYZ

    Overall, about 20% of Americans fall into the upper middle class. That’s about 60 million people, a France-worth of wealthy, healthy, well dressed people with good foods. In areas with a lot of them such as much of the Northeast they’ve even set the general social trend. It is not small and retreating oases.

    Aren’t Hispanics in the US pretty healthy as well, at least in terms of total life expectancy, in spite of them being poorer than white Americans are? I know that Hispanics suffer more from things like diabetes, et cetera but still live longer on average. Is it worth it for people to eat more Hispanic cuisine if they want to live longer?

    I guess that the Northeastern US’s equivalent of this might be Jewish cuisine. Jews also live pretty long on average:

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-12-05/ty-article/.premium/new-report-shows-significant-discrepancy-in-life-expectancy-between-israeli-cities/0000017f-defb-db5a-a57f-defb85ee0000

    https://forward.com/culture/140894/may-you-live-until-120-dna-uncovers-secrets-to-je/

    In both Britain and Israel, Jews live longer than gentiles (white Europeans and Arabs, respectively) do. I suspect that this would also be true for the US.

  373. A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    It might not be legal in the EU to market this product as bread.

    Did you ever see that web page where the guy put Big Macs and similar out on his back porch and took weekly (!) photographs to see how long what his local scavengers wouldn’t scavenge remained recognizable as the original freshly sold product? Profits.

    • LOL: Mikel
  374. @AP
    @YetAnotherAnon


    After Russian occupation/domination 1945-1990, Poland was still full of Poles – indeed more Polish than in 1939.

     

    That’s because Poland was on the furthest edge.

    But the Baltics and Ukraine were stuffed with foreign settlers. Latvia became something like only 60% Latvian.

    Even now Russia is sending Central Asian settlers into occupied Ukraine. Mariupol got its first mosque.


    The same instinct that drives Ukrainians, Poles, and Balts to resist the Russians are the same ones you lack. “

    For resisting the Russians you’ll be rewarded by the US Deep State and those who run it
     

    Sick fantasy by the kind of person who has ruined his own country.

    Russia has already started settling non-Europeans in the areas it captured.

    And Poland and the Baltics are still far more native than your own country, that you yourself soiled.

    There you are, right wing Western European loser, smeared in your own filth, eagerly hoping that Russia does to Ukraine what you have done to yourself. Because you can’t stand a brave people fighting for their lands, doing something that you would never have dared to do.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    But the Baltics and Ukraine were stuffed with foreign settlers. Latvia became something like only 60% Latvian.

    At least the Slavs (mostly Russians) in the Baltics are relatively easy to integrate, no? The older generation might be more prone to listening to Russian propaganda but the younger generation appears to at least be learning to be more capable of thinking for itself:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/02/world/europe/estonia-russia-war-putin.html

    Even now Russia is sending Central Asian settlers into occupied Ukraine. Mariupol got its first mosque.

    Interestingly enough, had Russia and Ukraine avoided decades of Communist rule, Central Asians would have likely began flocking into Russia and Ukraine in huge numbers decades earlier, possibly in the early 20th century, assuming both free internal migration within Greater Russia and Central Asia remaining a part of Greater Russia. It could have been similar to the African-American Great Migration from the Southern US to the Northern and Western US between 1910 and 1970 in real life. In 1910, 89% of all African-Americans lived in the Southern US, but in 1970, only 53% did. The job and economic opportunities would be more lucrative in Russia and Ukraine than they would be back at home in Central Asia, no? At least until the late 20th century or so.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, apparently Mariupol's first mosque was built back in 2007:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Suleiman_Mosque

    It looks nice and was funded by a wealthy Turkish businessman:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Mosque_in_Mariupol.jpg/1280px-Mosque_in_Mariupol.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Mariupol_2007_%28133%29.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Mosques-in-Mariupol-1.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Mosques-in-Mariupol-6.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%96%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C4.jpg/1280px-%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%96%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C4.jpg

  375. @AP
    @Beckow


    You have crossed the red line!…Montreal bagels are tastier, smaller, baked the old fashioned way. To say “not much better” is to miss the whole point of eating, one should aspire for the best.
     
    One can find those in the US, too. but rarely.

    However I was passionate about bagels. I prefer croissants and they are perfect in Montreal - no worse and perhaps even better than in France.

    You will point out that there are exceptions, and that is correct: as in other areas Americans are split between the smart, comfortable, healthy minority and the mass of struggling survivors.
     
    The poorer are doing okay too.

    The mass immigration from the Third World has made it much worse.
     
    Not really. There are good cheap Mexican options now, some of the Mexicans have figured out that there is a market for cheap food with fresh and real ingredients.

    And not all immigration has been third world. Asian immigration has meant good sushi. There are plenty of Eastern Europeans around here - so good cheeses, sausages, breads.

    And old rule in the nature is that an oasis never spreads, the surrounding desert does.
     
    You are wrong about the USA though. The middle has declined, but the both the top and the bottom have expanded. This has meant an expansion of proliferation of better grocery stores such as Wholefoods and better and fresher restaurants such as "fast casual" that are much better than garbage such as McDonalds probably comparable to cheap European chains.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    McDonald’s doesn’t strike me as being garbage, does it? Heck, it appears that the documentary film SuperSize Me‘s conclusions failed to replicate:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/03/supersize-me-failed-replication-well-sort-of/

    I don’t deny that Chick Fil-A, In-N-Out, et cetera are tastier relative to McDonald’s; I just wouldn’t consider McDonald’s to be garbage.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    McDonald’s doesn’t strike me as being garbage, does it? Heck, it appears that the documentary film SuperSize Me‘s conclusions failed to replicate:

    SuperSizeMe should have been sued for fraud.

    McDonald's has higher standards for chicken and beef compared to most chains. They don't simply buy beef on the market like other companies:
    https://www.greenbiz.com/article/exclusive-inside-mcdonalds-quest-sustainable-beef

    I roll my eyes at people that think McDonald's is corporate slop while assuming you can trust your local Bob's burgers because Bob lives near you.

    Bob is more likely to buy the cheapest ground beef on the market and not care where it came from.

    My local butcher sells beef from the other side of the country. I guess enough people just trust the butcher and don't look at where it is from. All his packaged meat has the origin. One of our local grocery stores is the same way. They sell meat that was shipped in over 1000 miles even though we have local beef producers.

    I don’t deny that Chick Fil-A, In-N-Out, et cetera are tastier relative to McDonald’s; I just wouldn’t consider McDonald’s to be garbage.

    I really don't get the hype around Chik Fil-A. I went to one and couldn't believe the line for what you were getting. I prefer the $5 KFC sandwich.

    One nice thing about Black areas is that there is always a KFC by the highway. Don't even need to use Google. I've seen a KFC right next to a Popeyes.

  376. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Walmart carries Dave’s bread and the ingredients are listed .... Tell us exactly how it isn’t real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.
     
    I know that bread quite well. Smiths/Kroger also carries it and I spent several months buying it regularly. It doesn't have the look or texture of what our forefathers several generations back would have called 'bread' but it does have what appear to be healthy ingredients and its perfectly sliced format allows for easy calorie counting, which is helpful for my low body fat percentage goals.

    However, I finally decided to stop eating that stuff. First, I got tired of the sweet aftertaste. That "organic" cane sugar and molasses listed in the ingredients make their presence be felt much more than necessary (and what do you need sugar and molasses in real bread for anyway?). For obvious reasons (that any non-British European here will understand) I'd never eat that bread along with dishes like steak or seafood but still eating that sweetish stuff with tomato sauce or salad became too annoying.

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave's bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days. I know that old-fashioned bread baked at home with only 4 ingredients (whole wheat flour, water, salt, yeast) would also keep for a long time but it would get moldy on the surface and people would slice out those moldy parts and give them to the farm animals. Apparently, the sourness of naturally produced yeast has anti mold and antibacterial properties. But Dave's is clearly a different kind of preservation. A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow's point. But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you're lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that's more difficult in the very rural areas.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave’s bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days.

    That is normal for organic bread.

    What you want to do is freeze half and then just toast it frozen.

    A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    Using natural preservatives in bread goes back hundreds of years so I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

    The bleached bread shipped around the country is certainly poor in nutrition quality compared to old fashioned wheat.

    But you can buy wheat bread that isn’t much different than what was available in the 1900s.

    Bread is pretty easy to make. My wife made biscuits the other day from scratch and they were excellent in biscuits n gravy. Much better than those tube biscuits.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @John Johnson


    Bread is pretty easy to make.
     
    You can get really nice bread machines in the States. And then get high quality flower. It takes a while to bake but you can just leave it while it's baking. It's really cool when it rises. The co-op has its own bakery. As do some street cafes.

    Some Oroweat breads are ok.

    In particular, rye and sourdough are very different from European, much lighter. Not really what we consider traditional rye bread in Eastern Europe (which is much darker and more dense). However, I do like the Reuben sandwich the way it's made in the US. And buttermilk bread.


    Much better than those tube biscuits.
     
    I love how those pop out. :) But it's a bit scary, it's almost like opening a champagne bottle. I had never seen that before with biscuits.

    Those cheap white breads, I think those are typically enriched with vitamins and minerals to compensate for the nutrients that are lost while processing. A peanut butter sandwich with those breads can almost be said to be approaching a dessert or cake category. lol Btw, one should keep an eye on what kind of jelly and peanut butter one is giving their kids - there are major differences in sugar and calorie content among various brands. The co-op jelly (as well as the peanut butter) is lower calorie (even if a bit pricier, but not by much). This can make a difference in the long run.

    Well, one should limit grains, either way.

    This is Franz Mckenzie Farms Buttermilk Bread (the only thing that seems "bad" in it is the canola oil, and soy, apparently boys are not supposed to use soy, although I'm not sure how much one would have to consume to make a difference on estrogen levels, probably a lot).

    Enriched Unbleached Wheat Flour (wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin And Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Potato Flour, Buttermilk Solids, Yeast, Vegetable Oil (canola And/or Soy), Contains 2% Or Less Of Each Of The Following: Vital Wheat Gluten, Salt, Xanthan Gum, Dough Conditioner (ascorbic Acid), Cultured Wheat Flour, Calcium Sulfate (a Source Of Calcium), Enzymes, Soy Flour.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    , @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Dave’s bread never seems to go bad ...

    That is normal for organic bread.
     
    Wrong. I grow lots of organic food on my farm and clearly the opposite is true.

    Sometimes I even wonder if my food is really healthier than the store-bought one. Veggies are usually fine but crops like cereals, legumes, potatoes, etc have to battle hard against weeds and bugs throughout their life cycle and end up looking pretty exhausted, like the chick pea harvest I finished shelling this morning. To be honest, I wouldn't buy these chick peas if I saw them on a store shelf. Most of them are smaller than the commercial ones, their color is irregular and some of them show signs of having fought against bugs and rot. Others seem to have gone though a period of arrested sprouting. I've discarded the most visibly damaged, just in case. The only obvious benefit in them is that they haven't been close to any artificial chemical but I wouldn't be certain that a lifetime of eating this kind of food is particularly healthy.

    At any rate, whatever you grow organically has a shorter shelf life than its store equivalent.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.
     
    I don't think that's the case in the West. But, as I said, you can't find really good bread at Walmart. Dave's is possibly their best choice and the store-baked stuff is a joke, both the white and the brown baguettes. Someone I know used to work at a Walmart bakery and she explained the process to me. Every night a truck brings a frozen stuff from some factory that doesn't look like food at all but after it is processed further in-store transforms itself into a "dough" that they put in their ovens and sell as "freshly baked bread". Unfortunately, Walmart baguettes are my son's favorite bread. They do get moldy after a week or so though, so at least I know that microorganisms find them palatable, which is not the case with Dave's product.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

  377. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    McDonald's doesn't strike me as being garbage, does it? Heck, it appears that the documentary film SuperSize Me's conclusions failed to replicate:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2022/03/supersize-me-failed-replication-well-sort-of/

    I don't deny that Chick Fil-A, In-N-Out, et cetera are tastier relative to McDonald's; I just wouldn't consider McDonald's to be garbage.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    McDonald’s doesn’t strike me as being garbage, does it? Heck, it appears that the documentary film SuperSize Me‘s conclusions failed to replicate:

    SuperSizeMe should have been sued for fraud.

    McDonald’s has higher standards for chicken and beef compared to most chains. They don’t simply buy beef on the market like other companies:
    https://www.greenbiz.com/article/exclusive-inside-mcdonalds-quest-sustainable-beef

    I roll my eyes at people that think McDonald’s is corporate slop while assuming you can trust your local Bob’s burgers because Bob lives near you.

    Bob is more likely to buy the cheapest ground beef on the market and not care where it came from.

    My local butcher sells beef from the other side of the country. I guess enough people just trust the butcher and don’t look at where it is from. All his packaged meat has the origin. One of our local grocery stores is the same way. They sell meat that was shipped in over 1000 miles even though we have local beef producers.

    I don’t deny that Chick Fil-A, In-N-Out, et cetera are tastier relative to McDonald’s; I just wouldn’t consider McDonald’s to be garbage.

    I really don’t get the hype around Chik Fil-A. I went to one and couldn’t believe the line for what you were getting. I prefer the $5 KFC sandwich.

    One nice thing about Black areas is that there is always a KFC by the highway. Don’t even need to use Google. I’ve seen a KFC right next to a Popeyes.

  378. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Walmart carries Dave’s bread and the ingredients are listed .... Tell us exactly how it isn’t real bread compared to what you can buy in Germany.
     
    I know that bread quite well. Smiths/Kroger also carries it and I spent several months buying it regularly. It doesn't have the look or texture of what our forefathers several generations back would have called 'bread' but it does have what appear to be healthy ingredients and its perfectly sliced format allows for easy calorie counting, which is helpful for my low body fat percentage goals.

    However, I finally decided to stop eating that stuff. First, I got tired of the sweet aftertaste. That "organic" cane sugar and molasses listed in the ingredients make their presence be felt much more than necessary (and what do you need sugar and molasses in real bread for anyway?). For obvious reasons (that any non-British European here will understand) I'd never eat that bread along with dishes like steak or seafood but still eating that sweetish stuff with tomato sauce or salad became too annoying.

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave's bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days. I know that old-fashioned bread baked at home with only 4 ingredients (whole wheat flour, water, salt, yeast) would also keep for a long time but it would get moldy on the surface and people would slice out those moldy parts and give them to the farm animals. Apparently, the sourness of naturally produced yeast has anti mold and antibacterial properties. But Dave's is clearly a different kind of preservation. A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow's point. But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you're lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that's more difficult in the very rural areas.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @John Johnson

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow’s point.

    Becow said that you can’t find bread in Walmart that is comparable to what would be in a German grocery. He is making a false assumption that you can only buy the $2 bleached bread. That was closer to the truth when Walmart was heavily focused on selling volume. Today they compete with all the major grocers and that includes the megacorp Kroger. In fact I am hoping that Alberton’s is purchased by Kroger. I really hate Albertson’s and in some rural areas they are the only option.

    But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you’re lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that’s more difficult in the very rural areas.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.

    You’d have to be pretty far off the map to be more than an hour away from a Walmart or Kroger/Safeway.

    You will see those Dollar Generals in the craziest places. Like an abandoned town that only has a gas station and school. I never use them. If I am on a road trip then I stock up at Wally world.

    The other lousy stores in remote areas are the little grocers for RV parks. I wish Walmart would put them out of business. They make their money by exploiting the poor and selling things like batteries with a 500% markup.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Why exactly do you hate Albertson's?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @LatW
    @John Johnson


    The other lousy stores in remote areas are the little grocers for RV parks. I wish Walmart would put them out of business. They make their money by exploiting the poor and selling things like batteries with a 500% markup.
     
    I've been to a convenience store like that on the way to the mountains (kind of in the middle of nowhere). It's super expensive and looks a bit dingy (which is ok because somebody actually made an effort to set up a store there). :) But they have most products, even dairy and some super overpriced deli items. lol

    Honestly, it's better to just get a coffee there and not buy anything (but load up all your food and water in a cooler and bring it with you). If you just stop by there on your way on an occasional trip, it's not a big deal, but if you live there...? Hmm.... This is because it is very, very distant from "civilization" if you think about it - how can a Walmart even be opened in such areas when they won't have enough customers.

    As to the poor who live in those types of areas, I don't get how they survive. They need to make large grocery trips where they stock up on everything. No idea what they do in emergencies. There are a bunch of people who live in their RVs in the woods. Not all poor, btw. Some people have really nice cabins. If it's just a couple of hours drive to "civilization" it might be ok to live there semi-permanently.

  379. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    But the Baltics and Ukraine were stuffed with foreign settlers. Latvia became something like only 60% Latvian.

     

    At least the Slavs (mostly Russians) in the Baltics are relatively easy to integrate, no? The older generation might be more prone to listening to Russian propaganda but the younger generation appears to at least be learning to be more capable of thinking for itself:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/02/world/europe/estonia-russia-war-putin.html

    Even now Russia is sending Central Asian settlers into occupied Ukraine. Mariupol got its first mosque.

     

    Interestingly enough, had Russia and Ukraine avoided decades of Communist rule, Central Asians would have likely began flocking into Russia and Ukraine in huge numbers decades earlier, possibly in the early 20th century, assuming both free internal migration within Greater Russia and Central Asia remaining a part of Greater Russia. It could have been similar to the African-American Great Migration from the Southern US to the Northern and Western US between 1910 and 1970 in real life. In 1910, 89% of all African-Americans lived in the Southern US, but in 1970, only 53% did. The job and economic opportunities would be more lucrative in Russia and Ukraine than they would be back at home in Central Asia, no? At least until the late 20th century or so.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, apparently Mariupol’s first mosque was built back in 2007:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Suleiman_Mosque

    It looks nice and was funded by a wealthy Turkish businessman:

  380. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow’s point.

    Becow said that you can't find bread in Walmart that is comparable to what would be in a German grocery. He is making a false assumption that you can only buy the $2 bleached bread. That was closer to the truth when Walmart was heavily focused on selling volume. Today they compete with all the major grocers and that includes the megacorp Kroger. In fact I am hoping that Alberton's is purchased by Kroger. I really hate Albertson's and in some rural areas they are the only option.

    But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you’re lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that’s more difficult in the very rural areas.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.

    You'd have to be pretty far off the map to be more than an hour away from a Walmart or Kroger/Safeway.

    You will see those Dollar Generals in the craziest places. Like an abandoned town that only has a gas station and school. I never use them. If I am on a road trip then I stock up at Wally world.

    The other lousy stores in remote areas are the little grocers for RV parks. I wish Walmart would put them out of business. They make their money by exploiting the poor and selling things like batteries with a 500% markup.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW

    Why exactly do you hate Albertson’s?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mr. XYZ

    Why exactly do you hate Albertson’s?

    Too many generic products, prices aren't great, meat quality is meh, drink coolers are not that cold, marked up basics when there is no competition, isles are too small, short lines by register, lousy beer/liquor selection, church hours, and most of all the deli sucks. You can't just run into one for some hot food.

    I really don't like Albertson's or IGA. Both chains will mark up when there is no competition. The only time I have seen a decent Alberton's was in a suburb where there were like 5 grocery stores in the area. In rural areas they do the bare minimum in old 60s stores and mark up basics like salad and ketchup. Lone Walmarts however will maintain regular prices.

  381. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Russia - Putin if you prefer to be simplistic - has made it absolutely clear for 10 years that the Nato expansion to Ukraine is a red line. They said it at every occasion and in every speech - they published it in the proposed peace in 2021. You just didn't want to hear it.

    The West has intentionally downplayed it and kept on talking about "denazification, EU, re-creating Soviet Union (?)". Because "Ukraine in Nato" is a weak selling point - even the dumber people see it as what it is: an open threat to Russia and a provocation.

    The media is still doing it: at his teleconference Putin said the war is about Kiev's neutrality and no Nato, demilitarization, denazification...NY Times only listed the last two - in the one-page article there was no mention of Nato. Is that "free" media? It is an attempt to deny the obvious. You can fool yourself, but you won't win the war that way. It only adds lies by omission to the tragedy.

    Re. the liquor store: it gets dark early and very cold. The sad spectacle of the tipsy Ukies ladies who should be doing better things with their lives is symbolic: they are in "Europe", the good and the bad, their country is getting destroyed and their men are missing - what was it all for? They tried 20 years earlier with the "Orange Revolution" of 2004 - it was a total fiasco. But they did it again with "Maidan" and now they drink foul-smelling liquor in "Europe" with temporary residence permits and live on hand-outs.

    You talk about Putin and I about the neo-cons - but it is mostly self-inflicted like most tragedies. Ukies did it to themselves. Now what?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Russia – Putin if you prefer to be simplistic – has made it absolutely clear for 10 years that the Nato expansion to Ukraine is a red line. They said it at every occasion and in every speech – they published it in the proposed peace in 2021. You just didn’t want to hear it.

    I agree that the West’s promise of eventual NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia specifically back in 2008 was a mistake, when Georgia already had an unresolved territorial dispute and the Ukrainian people still had a strong dislike of NATO. However, from the perspective of 2021, was Putin willing to make significant concessions in exchange for this demand of this, other than not invading Ukraine? Such as ending all Russian military cooperation with China?

    • Troll: QCIC
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mr. XYZ


    from the perspective of 2021, was Putin willing to make significant concessions
     
    Merkel convinced Kiev to walk away from the Minsk deal, starting 2014. (1)

    Previously, the Minsk agreement, which Merkel signed together with then-French President François Hollande, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin in September 2014, had been portrayed as an effort towards peace that the Russian president had allegedly later thwarted.

    Now, Merkel confirms that NATO wanted war from the start but needed time to prepare militarily—an assessment WSWS has long held.
     
    From that fact based perspective, why would Putin be willing to make any concessions in 2021?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/22/ffci-d22.html
    , @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    What does it have to do with China?

    If Nato had not expanded to Eastern Europe we would have peace and be much better off - Ukies above all. But Nato did and got caught in the trap they were preparing for Russia. Now they don't know what to do: they can't announce publicly that Ukraine won't be in Nato - a massive loss of face, they can't win the war, and they can only stall for so long. The current stall is also very expensive in Ukie lives and Western treasure.

    Smart people in the West told them this would happen, but fools didn't listen. And for Ukies it is just a tragedy, they were used like disposable napkins, they have nothing to show for it, and their country is a shadow of what it could have been.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  382. @S
    @LatW

    Thanks for the film clip.

    Some of those filmed looked like WW I Austria-Hungarian POW's. I'd once read that the Russians were quite proud how well treated these POW's were in comparison to past wars. Good for them.

    Replies: @LatW

    Some of those filmed looked like WW I Austria-Hungarian POW’s

    Yes, those were Austrian POWs, you’re correct. In this digitalized version, it’s so funny how they all look almost the same. It must be a type in Austria.

    • Thanks: S
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @LatW

    In Napoleon’s Italian campaigns his Austrian opponents were mostly Croats. Both men and general officers lots of Vich’s. The Venetians and Piedmontese must have seen the Corsican with Tuscan roots as a liberator. At least for a long while.

  383. @Mr. XYZ
    @John Johnson

    Why exactly do you hate Albertson's?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Why exactly do you hate Albertson’s?

    Too many generic products, prices aren’t great, meat quality is meh, drink coolers are not that cold, marked up basics when there is no competition, isles are too small, short lines by register, lousy beer/liquor selection, church hours, and most of all the deli sucks. You can’t just run into one for some hot food.

    I really don’t like Albertson’s or IGA. Both chains will mark up when there is no competition. The only time I have seen a decent Alberton’s was in a suburb where there were like 5 grocery stores in the area. In rural areas they do the bare minimum in old 60s stores and mark up basics like salad and ketchup. Lone Walmarts however will maintain regular prices.

  384. @LatW
    @S


    Some of those filmed looked like WW I Austria-Hungarian POW’s
     
    Yes, those were Austrian POWs, you're correct. In this digitalized version, it's so funny how they all look almost the same. It must be a type in Austria.

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    In Napoleon’s Italian campaigns his Austrian opponents were mostly Croats. Both men and general officers lots of Vich’s. The Venetians and Piedmontese must have seen the Corsican with Tuscan roots as a liberator. At least for a long while.

  385. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    Russia – Putin if you prefer to be simplistic – has made it absolutely clear for 10 years that the Nato expansion to Ukraine is a red line. They said it at every occasion and in every speech – they published it in the proposed peace in 2021. You just didn’t want to hear it.

     

    I agree that the West's promise of eventual NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia specifically back in 2008 was a mistake, when Georgia already had an unresolved territorial dispute and the Ukrainian people still had a strong dislike of NATO. However, from the perspective of 2021, was Putin willing to make significant concessions in exchange for this demand of this, other than not invading Ukraine? Such as ending all Russian military cooperation with China?

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    from the perspective of 2021, was Putin willing to make significant concessions

    Merkel convinced Kiev to walk away from the Minsk deal, starting 2014. (1)

    Previously, the Minsk agreement, which Merkel signed together with then-French President François Hollande, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin in September 2014, had been portrayed as an effort towards peace that the Russian president had allegedly later thwarted.

    Now, Merkel confirms that NATO wanted war from the start but needed time to prepare militarily—an assessment WSWS has long held.

    From that fact based perspective, why would Putin be willing to make any concessions in 2021?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/22/ffci-d22.html

  386. Quisling said it was logical on a range of grounds that the Dnieper be the border between the West and Russia. It now seems in many ways he was a visionary. The Russian losses now may be numerically as bad as during initial assault on Kiev, yet consist of mainly convict volunteers rather than the professional cadre, so they are replaceable. Ukraine failed to follow up successes with all available forces on a single axis of advance, as a result Russia fortified then figured out sacrificial reconnaissance in force tactics and drew on prisons for abundant low quality manpower to implement it. Industrial scale production of arms including some pretty useful ones such as the FAB bombs and drones enable them to advance inexorably. All indications are that Russia is not quitting whatever the West does.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Sean


    Industrial scale production of arms including some pretty useful ones such as the FAB bombs and drones enable them to advance inexorably. All indications are that Russia is not quitting whatever the West does.
     
    FAB's are being released from fighter/bomber planes though, so here should come Western supplied aviation on the scene next year to counter some of it - not an aviation expert myself at all, but perhaps it might help more to hunt RF planes with air to air rockets or to blow up FAB's itself when they're still gliding in the air?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @sudden death

  387. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave’s bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days.

    That is normal for organic bread.

    What you want to do is freeze half and then just toast it frozen.

    A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    Using natural preservatives in bread goes back hundreds of years so I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

    The bleached bread shipped around the country is certainly poor in nutrition quality compared to old fashioned wheat.

    But you can buy wheat bread that isn't much different than what was available in the 1900s.

    Bread is pretty easy to make. My wife made biscuits the other day from scratch and they were excellent in biscuits n gravy. Much better than those tube biscuits.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel

    Bread is pretty easy to make.

    You can get really nice bread machines in the States. And then get high quality flower. It takes a while to bake but you can just leave it while it’s baking. It’s really cool when it rises. The co-op has its own bakery. As do some street cafes.

    Some Oroweat breads are ok.

    In particular, rye and sourdough are very different from European, much lighter. Not really what we consider traditional rye bread in Eastern Europe (which is much darker and more dense). However, I do like the Reuben sandwich the way it’s made in the US. And buttermilk bread.

    Much better than those tube biscuits.

    I love how those pop out. 🙂 But it’s a bit scary, it’s almost like opening a champagne bottle. I had never seen that before with biscuits.

    Those cheap white breads, I think those are typically enriched with vitamins and minerals to compensate for the nutrients that are lost while processing. A peanut butter sandwich with those breads can almost be said to be approaching a dessert or cake category. lol Btw, one should keep an eye on what kind of jelly and peanut butter one is giving their kids – there are major differences in sugar and calorie content among various brands. The co-op jelly (as well as the peanut butter) is lower calorie (even if a bit pricier, but not by much). This can make a difference in the long run.

    Well, one should limit grains, either way.

    This is Franz Mckenzie Farms Buttermilk Bread (the only thing that seems “bad” in it is the canola oil, and soy, apparently boys are not supposed to use soy, although I’m not sure how much one would have to consume to make a difference on estrogen levels, probably a lot).

    Enriched Unbleached Wheat Flour (wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin And Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Potato Flour, Buttermilk Solids, Yeast, Vegetable Oil (canola And/or Soy), Contains 2% Or Less Of Each Of The Following: Vital Wheat Gluten, Salt, Xanthan Gum, Dough Conditioner (ascorbic Acid), Cultured Wheat Flour, Calcium Sulfate (a Source Of Calcium), Enzymes, Soy Flour.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    How many days before mold shows up? If mold isn't hungry for it then perhaps we shouldn't be hungry for it. I cannot get through a whole loaf of quality bread in four days or less and the bread I like starts showing mold in three.

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions. It looks like even I am not capable of screwing this up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys-USJiYWGQ

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    , @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Those cheap white breads, I think those are typically enriched with vitamins and minerals to compensate for the nutrients that are lost while processing.

    They are enriched but they lack fiber.

    A lot more kids are having problems with constipation. Their parents let them eat cheese and white bread. No salad or wheat bread. They get hooked on laxatives in elementary school. It's really sad.

    This is especially a problem in liberal areas where the parents don't have the fortitude to make their kids eat healthy foods. The kids are in charge.

  388. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    The fact that you chose that product to defend the idea that you can find high quality bread at Walmart actually proves Beckow’s point.

    Becow said that you can't find bread in Walmart that is comparable to what would be in a German grocery. He is making a false assumption that you can only buy the $2 bleached bread. That was closer to the truth when Walmart was heavily focused on selling volume. Today they compete with all the major grocers and that includes the megacorp Kroger. In fact I am hoping that Alberton's is purchased by Kroger. I really hate Albertson's and in some rural areas they are the only option.

    But in reality you do find good freshly baked bread in some US stores, if you’re lucky enough to live close to one of them. Ironically, I guess that’s more difficult in the very rural areas.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.

    You'd have to be pretty far off the map to be more than an hour away from a Walmart or Kroger/Safeway.

    You will see those Dollar Generals in the craziest places. Like an abandoned town that only has a gas station and school. I never use them. If I am on a road trip then I stock up at Wally world.

    The other lousy stores in remote areas are the little grocers for RV parks. I wish Walmart would put them out of business. They make their money by exploiting the poor and selling things like batteries with a 500% markup.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @LatW

    The other lousy stores in remote areas are the little grocers for RV parks. I wish Walmart would put them out of business. They make their money by exploiting the poor and selling things like batteries with a 500% markup.

    I’ve been to a convenience store like that on the way to the mountains (kind of in the middle of nowhere). It’s super expensive and looks a bit dingy (which is ok because somebody actually made an effort to set up a store there). 🙂 But they have most products, even dairy and some super overpriced deli items. lol

    Honestly, it’s better to just get a coffee there and not buy anything (but load up all your food and water in a cooler and bring it with you). If you just stop by there on your way on an occasional trip, it’s not a big deal, but if you live there…? Hmm…. This is because it is very, very distant from “civilization” if you think about it – how can a Walmart even be opened in such areas when they won’t have enough customers.

    As to the poor who live in those types of areas, I don’t get how they survive. They need to make large grocery trips where they stock up on everything. No idea what they do in emergencies. There are a bunch of people who live in their RVs in the woods. Not all poor, btw. Some people have really nice cabins. If it’s just a couple of hours drive to “civilization” it might be ok to live there semi-permanently.

  389. @LatW
    @John Johnson


    Bread is pretty easy to make.
     
    You can get really nice bread machines in the States. And then get high quality flower. It takes a while to bake but you can just leave it while it's baking. It's really cool when it rises. The co-op has its own bakery. As do some street cafes.

    Some Oroweat breads are ok.

    In particular, rye and sourdough are very different from European, much lighter. Not really what we consider traditional rye bread in Eastern Europe (which is much darker and more dense). However, I do like the Reuben sandwich the way it's made in the US. And buttermilk bread.


    Much better than those tube biscuits.
     
    I love how those pop out. :) But it's a bit scary, it's almost like opening a champagne bottle. I had never seen that before with biscuits.

    Those cheap white breads, I think those are typically enriched with vitamins and minerals to compensate for the nutrients that are lost while processing. A peanut butter sandwich with those breads can almost be said to be approaching a dessert or cake category. lol Btw, one should keep an eye on what kind of jelly and peanut butter one is giving their kids - there are major differences in sugar and calorie content among various brands. The co-op jelly (as well as the peanut butter) is lower calorie (even if a bit pricier, but not by much). This can make a difference in the long run.

    Well, one should limit grains, either way.

    This is Franz Mckenzie Farms Buttermilk Bread (the only thing that seems "bad" in it is the canola oil, and soy, apparently boys are not supposed to use soy, although I'm not sure how much one would have to consume to make a difference on estrogen levels, probably a lot).

    Enriched Unbleached Wheat Flour (wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin And Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Potato Flour, Buttermilk Solids, Yeast, Vegetable Oil (canola And/or Soy), Contains 2% Or Less Of Each Of The Following: Vital Wheat Gluten, Salt, Xanthan Gum, Dough Conditioner (ascorbic Acid), Cultured Wheat Flour, Calcium Sulfate (a Source Of Calcium), Enzymes, Soy Flour.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    How many days before mold shows up? If mold isn’t hungry for it then perhaps we shouldn’t be hungry for it. I cannot get through a whole loaf of quality bread in four days or less and the bread I like starts showing mold in three.

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions. It looks like even I am not capable of screwing this up.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    How many days before mold shows up?
     
    Back when I still used to do it, from what I recall, several days, maybe sometimes a bit longer, maybe shorter? But we ate it quickly, in just a couple of days (and those were somewhat small loaves). Some loaves you can make in the machine, but you can also just prepare the dough, shape the loaves and bake them in the oven. You can make nice, simple French breads that way. I used to keep it in a paper bag, not in the fridge (because it would last us just a few days).

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions. It looks like even I am not capable of screwing this up.
     
    I know, I hate dealing with "machines" and "equipment", but these are not that complicated. You can time them. Get American or German made. It's not that hard, although it can be a bit of time consuming, you wait for the bread to rise.

    You may need to practice a few times first. :)

    The most important thing is to be super precise with the ingredients (you should get measuring spoons - I don't remember if the spoons come with the machine or need to be bought separately, plus measuring cups, the machine will come with a very detailed recipe book for all kinds of breads). Then get quality bulk ingredients, flour (I used to get King Arthur, but there are choices), dry yeast, it's up to you if you want to use "the grandmother's" molasses, I typically skipped those because as a European, I'm not too used to them, but it's not a big deal either way).

    But this is different from, let's say, traditional Baltic rye bread baking - that's way more complex. You can order that in the States, too. With Baltic rye, mold will show up very quickly, so it is to be kept in the fridge or entirely frozen.

    And the bread making at home will save you some money over the long haul, maybe not much but some if you bake often. Blessed be.

    ---------
    On another topic: notice how the Indo-European word *Dyēus/Deus/Dievs and Devil have the same root...

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions.
     
    You don’t need to. You can get in the US real bread, not that American styrofoam that even mold refuses to eat. I did not buy that crap in >20 years, consuming exclusively Italian, French, German, and Russian bread. Based on the “opinion” of mold, all of these breads are edible. Most kinds survive freeze-thaw cycle, remaining a lot better than what large American manufacturers call bread.

    Replies: @AP

  390. @John Johnson
    @Mikel

    What really freaked me out last summer, though, is observing that Dave’s bread never seems to go bad. It would still look and taste the same 10-15 days after you bought it, whereas freshly baked bread from the bread machine or from the store gets moldy/stale in a few days.

    That is normal for organic bread.

    What you want to do is freeze half and then just toast it frozen.

    A kind of bread distributed everyday to all corners of the US with the exact same taste and texture that bacteria and fungi refuse to consume is clearly a highly industrialized product that bears little resemblance to what people have been calling bread for thousands of years.

    Using natural preservatives in bread goes back hundreds of years so I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

    The bleached bread shipped around the country is certainly poor in nutrition quality compared to old fashioned wheat.

    But you can buy wheat bread that isn't much different than what was available in the 1900s.

    Bread is pretty easy to make. My wife made biscuits the other day from scratch and they were excellent in biscuits n gravy. Much better than those tube biscuits.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mikel

    Dave’s bread never seems to go bad …

    That is normal for organic bread.

    Wrong. I grow lots of organic food on my farm and clearly the opposite is true.

    Sometimes I even wonder if my food is really healthier than the store-bought one. Veggies are usually fine but crops like cereals, legumes, potatoes, etc have to battle hard against weeds and bugs throughout their life cycle and end up looking pretty exhausted, like the chick pea harvest I finished shelling this morning. To be honest, I wouldn’t buy these chick peas if I saw them on a store shelf. Most of them are smaller than the commercial ones, their color is irregular and some of them show signs of having fought against bugs and rot. Others seem to have gone though a period of arrested sprouting. I’ve discarded the most visibly damaged, just in case. The only obvious benefit in them is that they haven’t been close to any artificial chemical but I wouldn’t be certain that a lifetime of eating this kind of food is particularly healthy.

    At any rate, whatever you grow organically has a shorter shelf life than its store equivalent.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.

    I don’t think that’s the case in the West. But, as I said, you can’t find really good bread at Walmart. Dave’s is possibly their best choice and the store-baked stuff is a joke, both the white and the brown baguettes. Someone I know used to work at a Walmart bakery and she explained the process to me. Every night a truck brings a frozen stuff from some factory that doesn’t look like food at all but after it is processed further in-store transforms itself into a “dough” that they put in their ovens and sell as “freshly baked bread”. Unfortunately, Walmart baguettes are my son’s favorite bread. They do get moldy after a week or so though, so at least I know that microorganisms find them palatable, which is not the case with Dave’s product.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikel

    Do a search on why does Dave's bread last so long or similar. This has been noticed and discussed. Where you live may be a big factor in how long it takes food to mold (climate and quantity of mold spores in the air).

    Is probably better to eat vegetables anyway unless you are broke.

    , @LatW
    @Mikel


    like the chick pea harvest I finished shelling this morning
     
    By the way, a growing industry in Europe - producing pea protein isolate (one of the best non-animal protein sources out there). They say the demand is going to grow a lot in the near future (due to vegan burgers and such). Obviously, it will be made in large volumes, not as in your garden, however, I wonder if what you're saying about these peas not looking that great would even matter, since they are ground up in a powder (isolate) - from which then "artificial meat" products are made for the growing vegan populations. I wonder if the organic pea is still better quality. Probably more hassle to grow it that way anyway. But for marketing purposes it would matter to state that this "pea protein isolate is organic".
    , @Mr. Hack
    @Mikel

    I used to help my mother out with her vegetable garden when she was still alive and I lived in Minnesota. The ground had to be worked on because it had a good amount of stones of various kinds, a lot of limestone because we lived within a couple of miles from the Mississippi. I even had my own garden by my house too, so I know a little bit about gardening. We were fortunate, and never really had any problems with blight or other sorts of pests. I do remember that when I was quite young that vegetables like cabbage were sprayed, but I never did that on my own cabbage and everything turned out okay. I even planted potatoes for a few years, even though I didn't really need to for they were relatively inexpensive to buy in the stores. I didn't have a lot of land to devote to the potatoes though, and ended up getting some old rubber car tires and stacked them three tires deep and filled them with soil, about 9 such "contraptions". When the first frost was about to appear, I would gather them all up and stored them in my garage on cardboard and covered them up with an old wool blanket. Potatoes were delicious and enough lasted until the next spring season to plant the new crop. Weeding kind of soured me to the whole proposition after a certain point in time. :-(

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

  391. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    How many days before mold shows up? If mold isn't hungry for it then perhaps we shouldn't be hungry for it. I cannot get through a whole loaf of quality bread in four days or less and the bread I like starts showing mold in three.

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions. It looks like even I am not capable of screwing this up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys-USJiYWGQ

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    How many days before mold shows up?

    Back when I still used to do it, from what I recall, several days, maybe sometimes a bit longer, maybe shorter? But we ate it quickly, in just a couple of days (and those were somewhat small loaves). Some loaves you can make in the machine, but you can also just prepare the dough, shape the loaves and bake them in the oven. You can make nice, simple French breads that way. I used to keep it in a paper bag, not in the fridge (because it would last us just a few days).

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions. It looks like even I am not capable of screwing this up.

    I know, I hate dealing with “machines” and “equipment”, but these are not that complicated. You can time them. Get American or German made. It’s not that hard, although it can be a bit of time consuming, you wait for the bread to rise.

    You may need to practice a few times first. 🙂

    The most important thing is to be super precise with the ingredients (you should get measuring spoons – I don’t remember if the spoons come with the machine or need to be bought separately, plus measuring cups, the machine will come with a very detailed recipe book for all kinds of breads). Then get quality bulk ingredients, flour (I used to get King Arthur, but there are choices), dry yeast, it’s up to you if you want to use “the grandmother’s” molasses, I typically skipped those because as a European, I’m not too used to them, but it’s not a big deal either way).

    But this is different from, let’s say, traditional Baltic rye bread baking – that’s way more complex. You can order that in the States, too. With Baltic rye, mold will show up very quickly, so it is to be kept in the fridge or entirely frozen.

    And the bread making at home will save you some money over the long haul, maybe not much but some if you bake often. Blessed be.

    ———
    On another topic: notice how the Indo-European word *Dyēus/Deus/Dievs and Devil have the same root…

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @LatW

    One of the main baking channels on Instagram/YouTube is Latvian, although it seems a bit more for professional chefs than amateur.

    I can't cook too much. Last year I was thinking about making cakes and saw his recipes, was dizzy watching his recipes. You can understand why prices are high for any cakes which are not made by machines, although I guess even most bakeries nowadays use machines for that kind of cake.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvtuWaidUFo

    Replies: @LatW

  392. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Dave’s bread never seems to go bad ...

    That is normal for organic bread.
     
    Wrong. I grow lots of organic food on my farm and clearly the opposite is true.

    Sometimes I even wonder if my food is really healthier than the store-bought one. Veggies are usually fine but crops like cereals, legumes, potatoes, etc have to battle hard against weeds and bugs throughout their life cycle and end up looking pretty exhausted, like the chick pea harvest I finished shelling this morning. To be honest, I wouldn't buy these chick peas if I saw them on a store shelf. Most of them are smaller than the commercial ones, their color is irregular and some of them show signs of having fought against bugs and rot. Others seem to have gone though a period of arrested sprouting. I've discarded the most visibly damaged, just in case. The only obvious benefit in them is that they haven't been close to any artificial chemical but I wouldn't be certain that a lifetime of eating this kind of food is particularly healthy.

    At any rate, whatever you grow organically has a shorter shelf life than its store equivalent.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.
     
    I don't think that's the case in the West. But, as I said, you can't find really good bread at Walmart. Dave's is possibly their best choice and the store-baked stuff is a joke, both the white and the brown baguettes. Someone I know used to work at a Walmart bakery and she explained the process to me. Every night a truck brings a frozen stuff from some factory that doesn't look like food at all but after it is processed further in-store transforms itself into a "dough" that they put in their ovens and sell as "freshly baked bread". Unfortunately, Walmart baguettes are my son's favorite bread. They do get moldy after a week or so though, so at least I know that microorganisms find them palatable, which is not the case with Dave's product.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    Do a search on why does Dave’s bread last so long or similar. This has been noticed and discussed. Where you live may be a big factor in how long it takes food to mold (climate and quantity of mold spores in the air).

    Is probably better to eat vegetables anyway unless you are broke.

  393. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Dave’s bread never seems to go bad ...

    That is normal for organic bread.
     
    Wrong. I grow lots of organic food on my farm and clearly the opposite is true.

    Sometimes I even wonder if my food is really healthier than the store-bought one. Veggies are usually fine but crops like cereals, legumes, potatoes, etc have to battle hard against weeds and bugs throughout their life cycle and end up looking pretty exhausted, like the chick pea harvest I finished shelling this morning. To be honest, I wouldn't buy these chick peas if I saw them on a store shelf. Most of them are smaller than the commercial ones, their color is irregular and some of them show signs of having fought against bugs and rot. Others seem to have gone though a period of arrested sprouting. I've discarded the most visibly damaged, just in case. The only obvious benefit in them is that they haven't been close to any artificial chemical but I wouldn't be certain that a lifetime of eating this kind of food is particularly healthy.

    At any rate, whatever you grow organically has a shorter shelf life than its store equivalent.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.
     
    I don't think that's the case in the West. But, as I said, you can't find really good bread at Walmart. Dave's is possibly their best choice and the store-baked stuff is a joke, both the white and the brown baguettes. Someone I know used to work at a Walmart bakery and she explained the process to me. Every night a truck brings a frozen stuff from some factory that doesn't look like food at all but after it is processed further in-store transforms itself into a "dough" that they put in their ovens and sell as "freshly baked bread". Unfortunately, Walmart baguettes are my son's favorite bread. They do get moldy after a week or so though, so at least I know that microorganisms find them palatable, which is not the case with Dave's product.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    like the chick pea harvest I finished shelling this morning

    By the way, a growing industry in Europe – producing pea protein isolate (one of the best non-animal protein sources out there). They say the demand is going to grow a lot in the near future (due to vegan burgers and such). Obviously, it will be made in large volumes, not as in your garden, however, I wonder if what you’re saying about these peas not looking that great would even matter, since they are ground up in a powder (isolate) – from which then “artificial meat” products are made for the growing vegan populations. I wonder if the organic pea is still better quality. Probably more hassle to grow it that way anyway. But for marketing purposes it would matter to state that this “pea protein isolate is organic”.

  394. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    Russia – Putin if you prefer to be simplistic – has made it absolutely clear for 10 years that the Nato expansion to Ukraine is a red line. They said it at every occasion and in every speech – they published it in the proposed peace in 2021. You just didn’t want to hear it.

     

    I agree that the West's promise of eventual NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia specifically back in 2008 was a mistake, when Georgia already had an unresolved territorial dispute and the Ukrainian people still had a strong dislike of NATO. However, from the perspective of 2021, was Putin willing to make significant concessions in exchange for this demand of this, other than not invading Ukraine? Such as ending all Russian military cooperation with China?

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow

    What does it have to do with China?

    If Nato had not expanded to Eastern Europe we would have peace and be much better off – Ukies above all. But Nato did and got caught in the trap they were preparing for Russia. Now they don’t know what to do: they can’t announce publicly that Ukraine won’t be in Nato – a massive loss of face, they can’t win the war, and they can only stall for so long. The current stall is also very expensive in Ukie lives and Western treasure.

    Smart people in the West told them this would happen, but fools didn’t listen. And for Ukies it is just a tragedy, they were used like disposable napkins, they have nothing to show for it, and their country is a shadow of what it could have been.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    What does it have to do with China?

     

    Russia dislikes NATO in Eastern Europe while the West dislikes Chinese dick in Russian ass.

    Replies: @Beckow

  395. @LatW
    @Coconuts


    I think it was after 1997 really, iirc immigration started moving into the ~200,000 a year and more range then. Before it was something like 50,000 a year, both European and non-European. So they only made the decision to switch to a mass migration policy about 25 years ago.
     
    Of course, that coincides with the triumph period of neoliberalism. They were too nonchalant about its effects. Since I'm not big into conspiracies, I'm just assuming they didn't look too much into the future but decided to make money fast.

    Do you think this may have had something to do with Diana's death? That was a trauma and sometimes the royal family is the one that holds everyone and everything together. You know, kind of like, when a pearl necklace bursts open and falls on the ground with all the pearls scattering, having gone loose...

    I'm sure there was a neoliberal push to more immigration, however, wasn't the ground for this laid already during the Marxist revolutions of the 1960s? Probably not to the extent as in France, the UK seems more conservative.

    Maybe one of the issues for the British is that they may have taken on the role of setting the rules for the world (at least, the so called "free world"), and, being in that position, one has to be open and show by example. Otherwise, if you change that paradigm, and communicate that "Britain needs protection, too", it may sound as if Britain is "weak", it's a paradigm reversal and potential abandonment of a world leader status. The US has the same issue as well, however, the US is huge, with lots of free space, while Britain is a small island, with limited space. And the various British peoples are indigenous and separate ethnies, and not an artificially created mixed nation.

    Although the debate in the UK is probably way beyond that by now, because it's a de facto multi-cultural reality now with Indian leadership.


    It seems like as long as there was a working class trade union movement and enough people who were educated during the period the empire still existed, there was enough popular pressure to maintain a restrictive system, but once these things started to fade the globalist tendencies came back, the lure of the low cost labour, divide and rule possibilities and so on.
     
    Yes, this is understandable, and again coincides with the triumphant march of neoliberalism. (Just a note here on EEs: most regular people thought we would jump straight into the Swedish system in 1991, not the neoliberal one, oops!). I wonder if the ideologies prevailing in the UK contributed to the dismantling of the trade union systems more so than they did in Scandinavia where those seemed to be deeply entrenched and probably connected to some sort of a nationalism (self-preservation of the nation more so than some abstract socialist ideas of equality and fairness even if it is phrased that way). The UK is perceived as having a more individualist ideology. Then again the Labour Party must have undergone some serious changes. Btw, the Scandis haven't been entirely immune from this either (although they are better about not allowing their population to be ravaged - I know their nationalists would disagree, haha).

    In another 10 years I guess the UK will be 28%+ non-white and counting
     
    When it gets to that point, it will be very serious (at that point it starts affecting mate choices, with such a large number of foreigners, it is inevitable to affect the mating pool). I read somewhere, in the context of Latvia's situation with the colonists, that one should never exceed something like 20% of foreigners in their land and that beyond that it gets dangerous. I forgot the exact number, but it was way below 30% (that was already considered red lights).

    Once you separate race from the identity narrative (the "white British" distinction), then you're on a slippery slope.


    young identitarian writer the other day where they agreed that it will be hard for the next generation or two and harsh measures may need to be taken against ‘degenerate whites’, those who won’t stop promoting policies that threaten the survival and safety of the native population.
     
    This is a matter where smart and assertive men need to arrive at a point where they are able to take matters in their own hands, due to the urgent nature of the situation, but of course they need to be backed by a wide consensus (from at least a part of the public that will support them). Certain political decisions that have been allowed in certain Euro countries reached a critical point a long time ago, the problem is that anything is futile, unless there is significant support (and enough of those who are ready to sacrifice). You don't want to sacrifice brave men in futile actions knowing that it could be counterproductive.

    Something like that seems possible in the UK as well, the French may be just ahead in thinking it through.
     
    You feel that France if more progressive that way? :) Jk. The French are more outspoken and ready for action, the English maybe a bit more conservative. It would be great to have some British "conservative revolution" (ok, turn or pivot, revolution sounds too radical). Preferably highly educated ones as they would have global authority.

    Btw, Arestovych in his recent rants (he made a bit of a U-turn), has been saying things like "There is a de facto civil war going on in the US, ideologically speaking". I think it's a bit exaggerated (it's a long way for Americans to ruin their own society and to get into physical altercations), however, this is a clear trend now. And war is not always physical.

    I wonder what would be the Euro or British version of it.


    Also seems likely this is going to happen too quickly for large numbers of immigrants to get into Poland or the Baltics before the political and social costs of prolonged mass-immigration from outside Europe start to become clearer.
     
    You mean it will or won't become clear soon enough? It feels like it's changing now. But that's the thing - as years go by, it always feels like it's changing, it's just about to reach the critical mass, yet the frog just keeps on being boiled... only when there are real, physical, legal changes, can we say there's been a turn, right? Let's say when they reduce the annual number allowed into the UK, significantly. Or crank down on Muslims heavily (and not just because of Israel but they can use that as an excuse).

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Coconuts

    I’m sure there was a neoliberal push to more immigration, however, wasn’t the ground for this laid already during the Marxist revolutions of the 1960s? Probably not to the extent as in France, the UK seems more conservative.

    I think this is true, anti-racist attitudes and liberal cosmopolitan aspirations started to be promoted more then and started to reach the wider population. Iirc Peter Hitchens has a good argument in his ‘Abolition of Britain’ book that the reaction to Diana was a sign of how attitudes had been changing and was evidence of how far a new mindset had spread among the public by the 90s.

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    The other side of it was that the elite and upper levels of society already had a lot of experience with a global viewpoint from being closer to the empire, was familiar with the economic potential of the populations of the former colonies etc. There seems to have been some convergence between these economic interests and this old imperial culture and the 60s progressives, the British equivalent of the French bobos.

    Maybe one of the issues for the British is that they may have taken on the role of setting the rules for the world (at least, the so called “free world”), and, being in that position, one has to be open and show by example…

    It seems important, especially for some of the governing classes, to be seen as a moral leader in the world, still somehow leading progress. This is why they took the Brexit thing so badly and why there is conflict with the views of the working class and the ‘somewhere’ people, who don’t prioritise Britain projecting power and playing this leading role. You can maybe see the difference in perspective between someone like Morgoth the YouTuber, who has a politically aware working class pov and members of the liberal managerial and admin elite, or global businessmen in London. The difference is large.

    I wonder if the ideologies prevailing in the UK contributed to the dismantling of the trade union systems more so than they did in Scandinavia where those seemed to be deeply entrenched and probably connected to some sort of a nationalism (self-preservation of the nation more so than some abstract socialist ideas of equality and fairness even if it is phrased that way).

    I associate this with the existence of that gemeinschaft concept in Nordic and Germanic countries that doesn’t exist in the same way in the UK. Maybe to some extent but the word folk doesn’t seem to carry the same meaning as volk did in Germany say. There is relatively more individualism, British trade unionism was probably more dysfunctional and had more powerful and enterprising enemies among the old business/merchant class. Sometimes Britain seems to be midway between a Germanic and a Latin one, I remember T.S. Eliot said something like this in one of his lectures.

    The Labour party did indeed abandon a lot of the old left-wing socialist culture and adopt a lot of neo-liberalism in the 1990s, before the big election win in ’97.

    I read somewhere, in the context of Latvia’s situation with the colonists, that one should never exceed something like 20% of foreigners in their land and that beyond that it gets dangerous. I forgot the exact number, but it was way below 30% (that was already considered red lights).

    I’ve heard something similar, things seem to be confirming it as all the decolonisation stuff and greater assertiveness and prominence on the part of ethnic minorities has coincided with meeting the 20% of the population mark.

    Once you separate race from the identity narrative (the “white British” distinction), then you’re on a slippery slope.

    Possibly there has been some haziness on this in Britain because of the feudal influences behind the law and constitution, where things used to be more about lineage than race as such, and they made everyone in the empire a subject of the monarch. I think this was because the citizenship laws were based on old feudal ones about being born under the protection of the king. Oddly I don’t think race ever got into UK law as a formal idea until it was introduced with equality legislation (it was in colonial law codes but not in the British Isles).

    You mean it will or won’t become clear soon enough?

    I am expecting it will become clearer in time, as the political impact of the demographic change in the Western countries gets harder to ignore. I am thinking in 10 years there should be stronger arguments/examples to use against these policies and more examples to use against too much idealism around immigration.

    only when there are real, physical, legal changes, can we say there’s been a turn, right?

    In Britain, imo there would be some progress when there is widespread awareness of the existence of distinct ‘white British’ or ‘old-British’ identities that people want to understand and talk about in a kind of normal way. Just the growth in numbers, plus the promotion of CRT style things from the US and the decolonisation agenda should push things in this direction, various commentators talk about this happening. Lately one or two prominent mainstream academics are trying to teach people how to talk about the topic while avoiding progressive traps and counter-arguments, this seems to be progress compared to how things have been.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Coconuts


    The other side of it was that the elite and upper levels of society already had a lot of experience with a global viewpoint from being closer to the empire, was familiar with the economic potential of the populations of the former colonies etc. There seems to have been some convergence between these economic interests and this old imperial culture and the 60s progressives, the British equivalent of the French bobos.
     
    One can say that both of these cultures are cosmopolitan, "internationalist" would probably be too heavy a word (maybe that's why they found it easy to converge).

    The old imperial ways are not something peculiar only to the Great Britain, we already spoke above about similar such class dynamics in the Russian Empire as well, where it had a geographic and economic dimension (and how it was connected to the later political turmoil). It's just that in the Russian Empire it was more continental, whereas in the Great Britain it was maritime (maybe incorporating more distant cultures).

    But even when recognizing this "economic potential of the populations of the former colonies", does it mean that one literally had to bring these populations onto the island itself in order to extract economic benefit? Couldn't the British transform the old colonial ways to some kind of a new enterprising system (even if it is harder since one no longer "owns" the colonies)? Besides some of the immigrants being currently absorbed are not even from the former empire. This is now based on the general "open borders" ideology.


    You can maybe see the difference in perspective between someone like Morgoth the YouTuber, who has a politically aware working class pov and members of the liberal managerial and admin elite, or global businessmen in London. The difference is large.
     
    This dichotomy has always been there, in other places as well. It's just that in modern advanced countries there is a sort of unspoken consensus that the middle class and working class are to be taken care of or at least not heavily inconvenienced. But now it goes beyond just the class aspect - the identity aspect is involved as well (this seems a bit similar to the riflemen prior to 1917). I think it's important to not only provide for the working class, but to not forget that this is first and foremost an identitarian struggle. Although having these two interconnected could make it potentially more explosive and really doesn't speak well for society's direction.

    I associate this with the existence of that gemeinschaft concept in Nordic and Germanic countries that doesn’t exist in the same way in the UK. Maybe to some extent but the word folk doesn’t seem to carry the same meaning as volk did in Germany say.
     
    That's a good distinction. And gemeinschaft is a kind of unity and collectivism (don't like this word, but it's what it is) that is derived from within and not really imposed from above politically. The British are the fathers of classical liberalism where individual autonomy and rights prevail over the collective or national. This goes further into the way how society should be organized or should self-organize. One of the main tenets of classical liberalism is spontaneous order - voluntary interaction. So it is a bit different than gemeinschaft, since it is a voluntary interaction of free individuals, whereas in

    gemeinschaft
     
    this interaction and unity is something that stems from national consciousness.

    Volk, of course, is different from folk (and probably different from "a people"). The English speaking people have kin, kinship, kinsmen, but that seems to describe something smaller or a more intimate relationship than a Volk, even though one can view their whole nation as their kin. There are also such concepts as "home and hearth" (which, again, sounds closer tied to an individual family). And the British have the Commonwealth. In today's Europe (or even the post-Enlightenment Europe in general), we are not supposed to talk about "a people" but we are supposed to be "societies" (as in civil societies), which is a more sophisticated type of nation or community, viewed more as a politicum than a tribe. We don't like to view people based on their biology anymore, but based on a more cognitive culture.

    One issue might be that, the British, being the fathers of classical liberalism (which, in my opinion, is somewhat distinct from broader Enlightenment concepts, though connected), may find it challenging to relinquish these foundational ideas. With time, additional and perhaps more debatable ideas have been incorporated into this fundamental framework, making it difficult for British society to fully disengage from its roots which are classical liberal principles. We can argue that these liberal principles themselves are the root of the problem (reactionary philosophers such as Nietzsche would claim this), but the British thought is rational and based in empiricism, and it's possible that these ideas where developed with the premise and the assumption that they will be used rationally. For example, even if individualism prevails, one would assume that free individuals would still love their country and act patriotically. Or that at least, they would acknowledge the value of the native identity and act with self-preservation. Or that the idea of utilitarianism, anther British concept, really demands that we don't disadvantage the local working class to the point of where it begins to feel alienated. Etc, etc.

    Also, some of these concepts, from what I understand, originally were only applied to certain White males, and were not meant as universal, applied to all of humanity. But I'm not fully sure.


    There is relatively more individualism, British trade unionism was probably more dysfunctional and had more powerful and enterprising enemies among the old business/merchant class
     
    There were probably way more Jews present in the Great Britain than in Scandinavia. The Jews arrived with the Norman conquest (so extremely early). Whereas they were allowed into Scandinavia much later, also, Teutonic Knights kept them away from the Baltic lands early on. I'm not saying everything is their fault, but that element is most likely there.

    I am expecting it will become clearer in time, as the political impact of the demographic change in the Western countries gets harder to ignore. I am thinking in 10 years there should be stronger arguments/examples to use against these policies and more examples to use against too much idealism around immigration.
     
    This is very refreshing to hear (indeed, a ray of light in the general gloom and doom atmosphere). I'm pinning some of my hopes on this, although not all of them. But if this were to come true, it would be a very positive trend. I wonder where is the red line for the natives (since there is already not just political, but physical assault in some cases). Maybe in the US it could be "reparations".
  396. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    2018, maybe they got better…:) I checked the ingredients and it is better, but fake – too many chemicals

    Well let's see this comparable German product. A bread that sits on store shelves and not from a bakery. You do realize that we also have bakeries?

    you are getting some serious toxins

    Which of these ingredients are toxins:
    Organic whole wheat (organic whole wheat flour, organic cracked whole wheat), water, organic cane sugar, organic 21 Whole Grains and Seeds mix (organic whole flax seeds, organic sunflower seeds, organic ground whole flax seeds, organic brown sesame seeds, organic triticale, organic pumpkin seeds, organic rolled barley, organic rolled oats, organic rolled rye, organic black sesame seeds, organic blue cornmeal, organic millet, organic rolled spelt, organic brown rice flour, organic amaranth flour, organic yellow cornmeal, organic KAMUT® khorasan wheat, organic quinoa, organic buckwheat flour, organic sorghum flour, organic poppy seeds), organic wheat gluten, organic oat fiber, contains 2% or less of each of the following: organic molasses, sea salt, yeast, organic vinegar, organic cultured wheat flour, enzymes, organic acerola cherry powder.A

    How much is it? I doubt it goes for AP’s $3.
    5-7 a loaf. Can sometimes get it at costco for 2/8.

    Another issue is that US wheat is loaded up with pesticides – it is actually banned in EU because of that

    Organic wheat is easy to obtain in the US. It basically grows wild in some of the plains states. Meaning they just plant and harvest it.

    US wheat is not banned in the EU. Stop making stuff up.

    Replies: @Beckow

    US wheat has toxic chemicals banned in EU – only small amounts that don’t use it are allowed.

    This is the official line:
    American wheat is covered in glyphosate. Glyphosate is a herbicide used on American wheat to kill bacteria, dry out and prepare the wheat crop for harvest.

    For the same reason Ukie wheat was banned from EU unless certifed that they don’t use it. EU is a pretty silly organization, but this they get right. Europeans eat healthier food.

    You didn’t answer my question: why are Americans so visibly inflamed? They often look swollen and the pure specimens can easily be spotted on a street in Europe. It is not horribly bad for you, but it slowly changes your genetics – and the fatness that comes with that lifestyle. Instead of denying it you should try to get more people to eat better. But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    why are Americans so visibly inflamed?
     
    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not "visibly inflamed". Some might be - maybe it's too much beer? Or MSG?

    But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.
     
    No, not 80%. One can get high quality food even if they're not UMC.

    Even for the poor, it's possible to get quality food cheaply in the US, but it will require extra effort (time). A lot of vegetables are still cheap (interestingly, some ethnic food, such as Mexican, because it is eaten by Mexicans, is cheaper - once Whites start buying it, it could get more expensive, such as tomatillos).

    There are options to buy in bulk and freeze food (including things such as grass fed beef or wild fish). There are services such as Misfits Market and Imperfect Foods that will send you cheap food that just happens to not look perfect but is nutritionally the same (or these could be rescued items from last minute cancellations).

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don't need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food - if you have multiple children, your allotted amount could be up to a thousand dollars per month). The military wives get to shop at the commissaries. If one is really poor, there are food banks.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP, @John Johnson

    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    This is the official line:
    American wheat is covered in glyphosate. Glyphosate is a herbicide used on American wheat to kill bacteria, dry out and prepare the wheat crop for harvest.

    No you copied that from a blog post:
    https://www.delaheart.com/blogs/food/the-differences-between-american-european-wheat-gluten

    Most US wheat is not covered in Glyphosate. That is because most of it grows naturally:
    https://wheatworld.org/press/the-facts-about-glyphosate-part-1-how-do-wheat-growers-use-glyphosate/

    US wheat is not banned in Europe.
    https://recipes.howstuffworks.com/is-american-wheat-different-than-european-wheat.htm

    You didn’t answer my question: why are Americans so visibly inflamed?

    I thought it was rhetorical.

    Americans are overweight and too many eat junk food/smoke/don't exercise enough.

    Instead of denying it you should try to get more people to eat better.

    I'm not denying anything. I was commenting on your false assumptions about American bread.

    But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.

    LOL 80%? I got news for you which is that 80% of Americans can afford a $200 cable bill and the latest iphone/android.

    When I lived in the city I would see people pay with food stamps and then whip out a $1000 phone.

    Food stamps are a disaster because the people can buy anything with them. Inner city stores thrive on food stamps and they are filled with junk.

  397. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    What does it have to do with China?

    If Nato had not expanded to Eastern Europe we would have peace and be much better off - Ukies above all. But Nato did and got caught in the trap they were preparing for Russia. Now they don't know what to do: they can't announce publicly that Ukraine won't be in Nato - a massive loss of face, they can't win the war, and they can only stall for so long. The current stall is also very expensive in Ukie lives and Western treasure.

    Smart people in the West told them this would happen, but fools didn't listen. And for Ukies it is just a tragedy, they were used like disposable napkins, they have nothing to show for it, and their country is a shadow of what it could have been.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    What does it have to do with China?

    Russia dislikes NATO in Eastern Europe while the West dislikes Chinese dick in Russian ass.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    The West has never disliked anything that could hurt Russia..but I don't think there is one, and if there was it would be really tiny.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  398. For those of you who argue that the US shouldn’t risk even a tiny chance of nuclear war over Ukraine, should the US actually be willing to do so over South Korea either, which is a country that is rapidly dying out?

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/asia/south-korea-to-see-population-plummet-intl-hnk/index.html

    By the 2070s, South Korea is projected to have a median age of almost 65!

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Not to worry, once the Korea's reunite the population will stabilize. By 2070 Russia may have to fight off China and New Korea at Vladivostok.

    The USA should not "risk" anything over the Ukraine situation which is essentially a problem created by the West. Korea is similar, but they have made it far enough to figure things out themselves. It will be interesting to see what the Koreans deduce from the Western debacle in Ukraine.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  399. Its about time that Putin has woken-up to the fact that the West with whisper sweet nothing into your ear, blow kisses to you across the hallway only to turn around and rape you when you are lonely and vulnerable.

  400. @Mr. XYZ
    For those of you who argue that the US shouldn't risk even a tiny chance of nuclear war over Ukraine, should the US actually be willing to do so over South Korea either, which is a country that is rapidly dying out?

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/asia/south-korea-to-see-population-plummet-intl-hnk/index.html

    By the 2070s, South Korea is projected to have a median age of almost 65!

    Replies: @QCIC

    Not to worry, once the Korea’s reunite the population will stabilize. By 2070 Russia may have to fight off China and New Korea at Vladivostok.

    The USA should not “risk” anything over the Ukraine situation which is essentially a problem created by the West. Korea is similar, but they have made it far enough to figure things out themselves. It will be interesting to see what the Koreans deduce from the Western debacle in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @QCIC


    By 2070 Russia may have to fight off China and New Korea at Vladivostok.
     
    You are going to be compost by then, so what are you worried about?

    It was America who allied with China to take down the Soviet Union

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Kissinger_Mao.jpg

    It was America who raped Russia after Soviet break up; China did nothing to grab Russian lands.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-rape-of-russia-explained-by-anne/

    Replies: @QCIC

  401. @LatW
    @John Johnson


    Bread is pretty easy to make.
     
    You can get really nice bread machines in the States. And then get high quality flower. It takes a while to bake but you can just leave it while it's baking. It's really cool when it rises. The co-op has its own bakery. As do some street cafes.

    Some Oroweat breads are ok.

    In particular, rye and sourdough are very different from European, much lighter. Not really what we consider traditional rye bread in Eastern Europe (which is much darker and more dense). However, I do like the Reuben sandwich the way it's made in the US. And buttermilk bread.


    Much better than those tube biscuits.
     
    I love how those pop out. :) But it's a bit scary, it's almost like opening a champagne bottle. I had never seen that before with biscuits.

    Those cheap white breads, I think those are typically enriched with vitamins and minerals to compensate for the nutrients that are lost while processing. A peanut butter sandwich with those breads can almost be said to be approaching a dessert or cake category. lol Btw, one should keep an eye on what kind of jelly and peanut butter one is giving their kids - there are major differences in sugar and calorie content among various brands. The co-op jelly (as well as the peanut butter) is lower calorie (even if a bit pricier, but not by much). This can make a difference in the long run.

    Well, one should limit grains, either way.

    This is Franz Mckenzie Farms Buttermilk Bread (the only thing that seems "bad" in it is the canola oil, and soy, apparently boys are not supposed to use soy, although I'm not sure how much one would have to consume to make a difference on estrogen levels, probably a lot).

    Enriched Unbleached Wheat Flour (wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin And Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Potato Flour, Buttermilk Solids, Yeast, Vegetable Oil (canola And/or Soy), Contains 2% Or Less Of Each Of The Following: Vital Wheat Gluten, Salt, Xanthan Gum, Dough Conditioner (ascorbic Acid), Cultured Wheat Flour, Calcium Sulfate (a Source Of Calcium), Enzymes, Soy Flour.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @John Johnson

    Those cheap white breads, I think those are typically enriched with vitamins and minerals to compensate for the nutrients that are lost while processing.

    They are enriched but they lack fiber.

    A lot more kids are having problems with constipation. Their parents let them eat cheese and white bread. No salad or wheat bread. They get hooked on laxatives in elementary school. It’s really sad.

    This is especially a problem in liberal areas where the parents don’t have the fortitude to make their kids eat healthy foods. The kids are in charge.

  402. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    US wheat has toxic chemicals banned in EU - only small amounts that don't use it are allowed.

    This is the official line:
    American wheat is covered in glyphosate. Glyphosate is a herbicide used on American wheat to kill bacteria, dry out and prepare the wheat crop for harvest.

    For the same reason Ukie wheat was banned from EU unless certifed that they don't use it. EU is a pretty silly organization, but this they get right. Europeans eat healthier food.

    You didn't answer my question: why are Americans so visibly inflamed? They often look swollen and the pure specimens can easily be spotted on a street in Europe. It is not horribly bad for you, but it slowly changes your genetics - and the fatness that comes with that lifestyle. Instead of denying it you should try to get more people to eat better. But many (80%?) don't have the money for higher quality food.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    why are Americans so visibly inflamed?

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer? Or MSG?

    But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.

    No, not 80%. One can get high quality food even if they’re not UMC.

    Even for the poor, it’s possible to get quality food cheaply in the US, but it will require extra effort (time). A lot of vegetables are still cheap (interestingly, some ethnic food, such as Mexican, because it is eaten by Mexicans, is cheaper – once Whites start buying it, it could get more expensive, such as tomatillos).

    There are options to buy in bulk and freeze food (including things such as grass fed beef or wild fish). There are services such as Misfits Market and Imperfect Foods that will send you cheap food that just happens to not look perfect but is nutritionally the same (or these could be rescued items from last minute cancellations).

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don’t need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children, your allotted amount could be up to a thousand dollars per month). The military wives get to shop at the commissaries. If one is really poor, there are food banks.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer? Or MSG?

     

    Anglos being unusually heavy is a general Anglo thing, not just an American thing:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2023/09/the-other-anglo-exceptionalism/

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/median_income_obesity-2048x1331.png

    But Anglos are also quite accomplished on average in spite of their average heaviness, so maybe it all evens out. Of course, the most accomplished Anglos would probably be thinner on average since AFAIK smarter people are thinner on average.

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children, your allotted amount could be up to a thousand dollars per month). The military wives get to shop at the commissaries. If one is really poor, there are food banks.

     

    This New York City organization appears to be doing a great deed in saving food that would otherwise be thrown away and giving it to needy people:

    https://www.cityharvest.org/#:~:text=NYC's%20first%20and%20largest%20food%20rescue%20organization&text=City%20Harvest%20rescues%20perfectly%20good,to%20New%20Yorkers%20experiencing%20hunger.
    , @AP
    @LatW


    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket
     
    American obesity depends on social class, geographic region, and ethnicity (and these are partially connected).

    Areas with a lot of wealthy people such as southern New England, New Jersey, and Vermont are not much different from Europe.

    Obesity rates:

    In Massachusetts it’s 27.4%, in NJ 28.2%. Etc.

    https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/most-obese-states/

    Compare that to 27.8% in UK, 26% in Czechia, 26.2% Hungary, 23.2% Poland.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-rates-by-country

    It’s not a striking difference. There is even some overlap.

    OTOH, the obesity rate in Alabama is about 40%, in Missouri 37%.
    , @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer?

    It really does depend on the location. Whites in Hawaii and Colorado are known to be in shape. Obesity levels in the South are insane.

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape.

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don’t need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children

    EBT now works at farmer's markets and they get 2-1 on the prices.

    Lettuce can be grown just about anywhere. They even have a variety for subzero areas.

    In Texas it is the norm to grow tomatoes on the porch. They like those upside down tomato hangers.

    Just not buying the excuse of not having access.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Gerard1234

  403. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    US wheat has toxic chemicals banned in EU - only small amounts that don't use it are allowed.

    This is the official line:
    American wheat is covered in glyphosate. Glyphosate is a herbicide used on American wheat to kill bacteria, dry out and prepare the wheat crop for harvest.

    For the same reason Ukie wheat was banned from EU unless certifed that they don't use it. EU is a pretty silly organization, but this they get right. Europeans eat healthier food.

    You didn't answer my question: why are Americans so visibly inflamed? They often look swollen and the pure specimens can easily be spotted on a street in Europe. It is not horribly bad for you, but it slowly changes your genetics - and the fatness that comes with that lifestyle. Instead of denying it you should try to get more people to eat better. But many (80%?) don't have the money for higher quality food.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    This is the official line:
    American wheat is covered in glyphosate. Glyphosate is a herbicide used on American wheat to kill bacteria, dry out and prepare the wheat crop for harvest.

    No you copied that from a blog post:
    https://www.delaheart.com/blogs/food/the-differences-between-american-european-wheat-gluten

    Most US wheat is not covered in Glyphosate. That is because most of it grows naturally:
    https://wheatworld.org/press/the-facts-about-glyphosate-part-1-how-do-wheat-growers-use-glyphosate/

    US wheat is not banned in Europe.
    https://recipes.howstuffworks.com/is-american-wheat-different-than-european-wheat.htm

    You didn’t answer my question: why are Americans so visibly inflamed?

    I thought it was rhetorical.

    Americans are overweight and too many eat junk food/smoke/don’t exercise enough.

    Instead of denying it you should try to get more people to eat better.

    I’m not denying anything. I was commenting on your false assumptions about American bread.

    But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.

    LOL 80%? I got news for you which is that 80% of Americans can afford a $200 cable bill and the latest iphone/android.

    When I lived in the city I would see people pay with food stamps and then whip out a $1000 phone.

    Food stamps are a disaster because the people can buy anything with them. Inner city stores thrive on food stamps and they are filled with junk.

  404. @Mikel
    @John Johnson


    Dave’s bread never seems to go bad ...

    That is normal for organic bread.
     
    Wrong. I grow lots of organic food on my farm and clearly the opposite is true.

    Sometimes I even wonder if my food is really healthier than the store-bought one. Veggies are usually fine but crops like cereals, legumes, potatoes, etc have to battle hard against weeds and bugs throughout their life cycle and end up looking pretty exhausted, like the chick pea harvest I finished shelling this morning. To be honest, I wouldn't buy these chick peas if I saw them on a store shelf. Most of them are smaller than the commercial ones, their color is irregular and some of them show signs of having fought against bugs and rot. Others seem to have gone though a period of arrested sprouting. I've discarded the most visibly damaged, just in case. The only obvious benefit in them is that they haven't been close to any artificial chemical but I wouldn't be certain that a lifetime of eating this kind of food is particularly healthy.

    At any rate, whatever you grow organically has a shorter shelf life than its store equivalent.

    Even most rural areas are within an hour of a Walmart.
     
    I don't think that's the case in the West. But, as I said, you can't find really good bread at Walmart. Dave's is possibly their best choice and the store-baked stuff is a joke, both the white and the brown baguettes. Someone I know used to work at a Walmart bakery and she explained the process to me. Every night a truck brings a frozen stuff from some factory that doesn't look like food at all but after it is processed further in-store transforms itself into a "dough" that they put in their ovens and sell as "freshly baked bread". Unfortunately, Walmart baguettes are my son's favorite bread. They do get moldy after a week or so though, so at least I know that microorganisms find them palatable, which is not the case with Dave's product.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    I used to help my mother out with her vegetable garden when she was still alive and I lived in Minnesota. The ground had to be worked on because it had a good amount of stones of various kinds, a lot of limestone because we lived within a couple of miles from the Mississippi. I even had my own garden by my house too, so I know a little bit about gardening. We were fortunate, and never really had any problems with blight or other sorts of pests. I do remember that when I was quite young that vegetables like cabbage were sprayed, but I never did that on my own cabbage and everything turned out okay. I even planted potatoes for a few years, even though I didn’t really need to for they were relatively inexpensive to buy in the stores. I didn’t have a lot of land to devote to the potatoes though, and ended up getting some old rubber car tires and stacked them three tires deep and filled them with soil, about 9 such “contraptions”. When the first frost was about to appear, I would gather them all up and stored them in my garage on cardboard and covered them up with an old wool blanket. Potatoes were delicious and enough lasted until the next spring season to plant the new crop. Weeding kind of soured me to the whole proposition after a certain point in time. 🙁

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    covered them up with an old wool blanket. Potatoes were delicious and enough lasted until the next spring season to plant the new crop.
     
    Do you mean an attached/heated garage?

    Wouldn't think one wool blanket would be enough in Minnesota for an unheated detached garage.

    And did all your potatoes turn green?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikel
    @Mr. Hack


    Weeding kind of soured me to the whole proposition after a certain point in time.
     
    I know, I know. Who enjoys weeding? Fortunately, in these arid parts drip irrigation solves a good part of the problem. Without water only the most insidious weeds can grow in the dry summer heat. But some grow anyhow and it's a tough competition between them on the one hand and you and your crops on the other. An acre suddenly becomes an immensity. A farmer's life is not supposed to be easy but it does provide plenty of exercise and my rabbits convert weeds into meat with amazing enthusiasm.

    I am also curious as to how you managed to prevent those potatoes from freezing solid in an unconditioned Minnesota garage. Here temps don't drop to the Northern Midwest levels but the only way to store them fresh for several months is in a root cellar or by burying them in the ground inside an insulted container. Some people bury old freezers with the door looking upwards for easy access. This old ranch had a root cellar in the backyard but it was quite creepy so I decided to demolish it. I dug a trench under a big carport and store my potatoes inside it, sorted by size and condition inside second-hand coolers that I bought at a charity shop. The trench is insulated on all sides and covered on top by a wooden hatch door.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  405. @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow


    What does it have to do with China?

     

    Russia dislikes NATO in Eastern Europe while the West dislikes Chinese dick in Russian ass.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The West has never disliked anything that could hurt Russia..but I don’t think there is one, and if there was it would be really tiny.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Beckow

    Playing into the stereotype of Asian men having small penises lol! ;) :D

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Beckow

    The top MMA female is Chinese, and she can kick your teeth out. You dumb rat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4l7tHKHwbU

    Funny that your country is shaped like a small flaccid penis, and behaves like one too. Making deals with people that would have turned you into fertilizer.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Jozef_Tiso_%28Berlin%29.jpg

    Magyars themselves came from Asia, so your female ancestors have given plenty of pleasure to Asian men.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Migration_of_Hungarians.jpg

    Replies: @sudden death

  406. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikel

    I used to help my mother out with her vegetable garden when she was still alive and I lived in Minnesota. The ground had to be worked on because it had a good amount of stones of various kinds, a lot of limestone because we lived within a couple of miles from the Mississippi. I even had my own garden by my house too, so I know a little bit about gardening. We were fortunate, and never really had any problems with blight or other sorts of pests. I do remember that when I was quite young that vegetables like cabbage were sprayed, but I never did that on my own cabbage and everything turned out okay. I even planted potatoes for a few years, even though I didn't really need to for they were relatively inexpensive to buy in the stores. I didn't have a lot of land to devote to the potatoes though, and ended up getting some old rubber car tires and stacked them three tires deep and filled them with soil, about 9 such "contraptions". When the first frost was about to appear, I would gather them all up and stored them in my garage on cardboard and covered them up with an old wool blanket. Potatoes were delicious and enough lasted until the next spring season to plant the new crop. Weeding kind of soured me to the whole proposition after a certain point in time. :-(

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

    covered them up with an old wool blanket. Potatoes were delicious and enough lasted until the next spring season to plant the new crop.

    Do you mean an attached/heated garage?

    Wouldn’t think one wool blanket would be enough in Minnesota for an unheated detached garage.

    And did all your potatoes turn green?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    No, it was not an attached heated garage, although it was close to my house. Don't forget, as much as some of us may not like to admit, there really is a warming going on in the atmosphere and even winters in MN have been warmer than in the past. By the end of the season though, as I remember, the potatoes had been picked through and all the bigger and better ones had been used up with only the smaller ones being left, however, I don't remember any greenining going on...I was kind of proud of my rubberized Potato mounds and certainly impressed with the amount of food that they produced.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  407. Putin says something sensible:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-women-eight-children-ukraine-war-b2455957.html

    Striving to be like Israeli Jews in regards to this is certainly a good thing, especially if it can be done without significant dysgenics. If Russian liberals view pro-natalism as anti-feminist, then they should push for the development of artificial wombs. In the meantime, though, aiming for a culture shift in regards to this in both Russia and the West, again without significant dysgenics, definitely appears to be a great idea.

    Even if one believes that AI will eat up in the world in the coming years and decades, having more of one’s co-ethnics exist still strikes me as being a good idea. After all, this isn’t going to result in any new wars and could make it easier for one’s nation to achieve greatness (AI can also help with that, but more people are vital for things such as having larger and more interesting cities and metropolitan areas, et cetera).

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. XYZ

    Madame de Stael, who was considered the most brilliant woman in Napoleonic France, asked him who was the greatest French woman. Napoleon told her straight out "the one who has borne the most children."

    I once knew a woman who had 12 brothers and sisters. She said that her mom didn't care for children much but she seemed to enjoy being pregnant. Professional managerial class women are unlikely to look on this recommendation with enthusiasm.

    Replies: @AP

  408. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    The West has never disliked anything that could hurt Russia..but I don't think there is one, and if there was it would be really tiny.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Playing into the stereotype of Asian men having small penises lol! 😉 😀

  409. @LatW
    @Beckow


    why are Americans so visibly inflamed?
     
    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not "visibly inflamed". Some might be - maybe it's too much beer? Or MSG?

    But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.
     
    No, not 80%. One can get high quality food even if they're not UMC.

    Even for the poor, it's possible to get quality food cheaply in the US, but it will require extra effort (time). A lot of vegetables are still cheap (interestingly, some ethnic food, such as Mexican, because it is eaten by Mexicans, is cheaper - once Whites start buying it, it could get more expensive, such as tomatillos).

    There are options to buy in bulk and freeze food (including things such as grass fed beef or wild fish). There are services such as Misfits Market and Imperfect Foods that will send you cheap food that just happens to not look perfect but is nutritionally the same (or these could be rescued items from last minute cancellations).

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don't need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food - if you have multiple children, your allotted amount could be up to a thousand dollars per month). The military wives get to shop at the commissaries. If one is really poor, there are food banks.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP, @John Johnson

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer? Or MSG?

    Anglos being unusually heavy is a general Anglo thing, not just an American thing:

    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2023/09/the-other-anglo-exceptionalism/

    But Anglos are also quite accomplished on average in spite of their average heaviness, so maybe it all evens out. Of course, the most accomplished Anglos would probably be thinner on average since AFAIK smarter people are thinner on average.

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children, your allotted amount could be up to a thousand dollars per month). The military wives get to shop at the commissaries. If one is really poor, there are food banks.

    This New York City organization appears to be doing a great deed in saving food that would otherwise be thrown away and giving it to needy people:

    https://www.cityharvest.org/#:~:text=NYC’s%20first%20and%20largest%20food%20rescue%20organization&text=City%20Harvest%20rescues%20perfectly%20good,to%20New%20Yorkers%20experiencing%20hunger.

  410. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    covered them up with an old wool blanket. Potatoes were delicious and enough lasted until the next spring season to plant the new crop.
     
    Do you mean an attached/heated garage?

    Wouldn't think one wool blanket would be enough in Minnesota for an unheated detached garage.

    And did all your potatoes turn green?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    No, it was not an attached heated garage, although it was close to my house. Don’t forget, as much as some of us may not like to admit, there really is a warming going on in the atmosphere and even winters in MN have been warmer than in the past. By the end of the season though, as I remember, the potatoes had been picked through and all the bigger and better ones had been used up with only the smaller ones being left, however, I don’t remember any greenining going on…I was kind of proud of my rubberized Potato mounds and certainly impressed with the amount of food that they produced.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Van Gogh Potato Eaters

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Van-willem-vincent-gogh-die-kartoffelesser-03850.jpg/1024px-Van-willem-vincent-gogh-die-kartoffelesser-03850.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  411. @Mr. XYZ
    Putin says something sensible:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-women-eight-children-ukraine-war-b2455957.html

    Striving to be like Israeli Jews in regards to this is certainly a good thing, especially if it can be done without significant dysgenics. If Russian liberals view pro-natalism as anti-feminist, then they should push for the development of artificial wombs. In the meantime, though, aiming for a culture shift in regards to this in both Russia and the West, again without significant dysgenics, definitely appears to be a great idea.

    Even if one believes that AI will eat up in the world in the coming years and decades, having more of one's co-ethnics exist still strikes me as being a good idea. After all, this isn't going to result in any new wars and could make it easier for one's nation to achieve greatness (AI can also help with that, but more people are vital for things such as having larger and more interesting cities and metropolitan areas, et cetera).

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Madame de Stael, who was considered the most brilliant woman in Napoleonic France, asked him who was the greatest French woman. Napoleon told her straight out “the one who has borne the most children.”

    I once knew a woman who had 12 brothers and sisters. She said that her mom didn’t care for children much but she seemed to enjoy being pregnant. Professional managerial class women are unlikely to look on this recommendation with enthusiasm.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    She said that her mom didn’t care for children much but she seemed to enjoy being pregnant
     
    Many women enjoy being pregnant, at least after the morning sickness subsides. My wife was one of those.

    It’s some weird antinatilist emphasis on the popular culture that presents pregnancy as somehow unpleasant.

    Replies: @LatW

  412. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    No, it was not an attached heated garage, although it was close to my house. Don't forget, as much as some of us may not like to admit, there really is a warming going on in the atmosphere and even winters in MN have been warmer than in the past. By the end of the season though, as I remember, the potatoes had been picked through and all the bigger and better ones had been used up with only the smaller ones being left, however, I don't remember any greenining going on...I was kind of proud of my rubberized Potato mounds and certainly impressed with the amount of food that they produced.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Van Gogh Potato Eaters

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    And their progeny in the 1960's:

    https://youtu.be/ICGrjmJouWA

    Very popular stuff back in the day that stood out proudly in the pantheon of other memorable kids toys: yo- yos, hula hoops, play dough, flubber, gumbys, frisbees...

    https://youtu.be/0Vk7Qm87hUw
    The superball was ubiquitous!

  413. @songbird
    @S

    Nowadays, when I think of the name Jenkins, I think of the woke director of the atrocious Wonder Woman movies, Patty Jenkins.

    Have only seen the first one, but they had an Indian (feather) character that was seemingly added just to make Euros feel guilty. And some North African character whose dream was to be an actor but who was the "wrong color." Germans were of course very evil, though it was WWI.

    BTW, there was once an interesting conflict in Ireland which the natives called "War of the Fillip."(though I forget the Irish.)


    ARCHAIC
    a movement made by bending the last joint of the finger against the thumb and suddenly releasing it; a flick of the finger
     
    No wiki page.

    But basically, one Norman flicked another Norman's nose, when he was supposed to be under safe conduct. The guy who had his nose flicked then went native and allied with some clan that his family had attempted to massacre at the dinner table about a hundred years before. IIRC, they were quite successful, until an army being landed forced them to peace.

    Replies: @S

    The guy who had his nose flicked then went native and allied with some clan that his family had attempted to massacre at the dinner table about a hundred years before.

    Ireland seems to have been an exceptionally violent place at one time. 😀

    It’s good that nowadays things seem to have settled down a little bit in that regard.

  414. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    Van Gogh Potato Eaters

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Van-willem-vincent-gogh-die-kartoffelesser-03850.jpg/1024px-Van-willem-vincent-gogh-die-kartoffelesser-03850.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    And their progeny in the 1960’s:

    Very popular stuff back in the day that stood out proudly in the pantheon of other memorable kids toys: yo- yos, hula hoops, play dough, flubber, gumbys, frisbees…

    The superball was ubiquitous!

  415. @Coconuts
    @LatW


    I’m sure there was a neoliberal push to more immigration, however, wasn’t the ground for this laid already during the Marxist revolutions of the 1960s? Probably not to the extent as in France, the UK seems more conservative.
     
    I think this is true, anti-racist attitudes and liberal cosmopolitan aspirations started to be promoted more then and started to reach the wider population. Iirc Peter Hitchens has a good argument in his 'Abolition of Britain' book that the reaction to Diana was a sign of how attitudes had been changing and was evidence of how far a new mindset had spread among the public by the 90s.

    The other side of it was that the elite and upper levels of society already had a lot of experience with a global viewpoint from being closer to the empire, was familiar with the economic potential of the populations of the former colonies etc. There seems to have been some convergence between these economic interests and this old imperial culture and the 60s progressives, the British equivalent of the French bobos.


    Maybe one of the issues for the British is that they may have taken on the role of setting the rules for the world (at least, the so called “free world”), and, being in that position, one has to be open and show by example...
     
    It seems important, especially for some of the governing classes, to be seen as a moral leader in the world, still somehow leading progress. This is why they took the Brexit thing so badly and why there is conflict with the views of the working class and the 'somewhere' people, who don't prioritise Britain projecting power and playing this leading role. You can maybe see the difference in perspective between someone like Morgoth the YouTuber, who has a politically aware working class pov and members of the liberal managerial and admin elite, or global businessmen in London. The difference is large.

    I wonder if the ideologies prevailing in the UK contributed to the dismantling of the trade union systems more so than they did in Scandinavia where those seemed to be deeply entrenched and probably connected to some sort of a nationalism (self-preservation of the nation more so than some abstract socialist ideas of equality and fairness even if it is phrased that way).
     
    I associate this with the existence of that gemeinschaft concept in Nordic and Germanic countries that doesn't exist in the same way in the UK. Maybe to some extent but the word folk doesn't seem to carry the same meaning as volk did in Germany say. There is relatively more individualism, British trade unionism was probably more dysfunctional and had more powerful and enterprising enemies among the old business/merchant class. Sometimes Britain seems to be midway between a Germanic and a Latin one, I remember T.S. Eliot said something like this in one of his lectures.

    The Labour party did indeed abandon a lot of the old left-wing socialist culture and adopt a lot of neo-liberalism in the 1990s, before the big election win in '97.


    I read somewhere, in the context of Latvia’s situation with the colonists, that one should never exceed something like 20% of foreigners in their land and that beyond that it gets dangerous. I forgot the exact number, but it was way below 30% (that was already considered red lights).
     
    I've heard something similar, things seem to be confirming it as all the decolonisation stuff and greater assertiveness and prominence on the part of ethnic minorities has coincided with meeting the 20% of the population mark.

    Once you separate race from the identity narrative (the “white British” distinction), then you’re on a slippery slope.
     
    Possibly there has been some haziness on this in Britain because of the feudal influences behind the law and constitution, where things used to be more about lineage than race as such, and they made everyone in the empire a subject of the monarch. I think this was because the citizenship laws were based on old feudal ones about being born under the protection of the king. Oddly I don't think race ever got into UK law as a formal idea until it was introduced with equality legislation (it was in colonial law codes but not in the British Isles).

    You mean it will or won’t become clear soon enough?
     
    I am expecting it will become clearer in time, as the political impact of the demographic change in the Western countries gets harder to ignore. I am thinking in 10 years there should be stronger arguments/examples to use against these policies and more examples to use against too much idealism around immigration.

    only when there are real, physical, legal changes, can we say there’s been a turn, right?
     
    In Britain, imo there would be some progress when there is widespread awareness of the existence of distinct 'white British' or 'old-British' identities that people want to understand and talk about in a kind of normal way. Just the growth in numbers, plus the promotion of CRT style things from the US and the decolonisation agenda should push things in this direction, various commentators talk about this happening. Lately one or two prominent mainstream academics are trying to teach people how to talk about the topic while avoiding progressive traps and counter-arguments, this seems to be progress compared to how things have been.

    Replies: @LatW

    The other side of it was that the elite and upper levels of society already had a lot of experience with a global viewpoint from being closer to the empire, was familiar with the economic potential of the populations of the former colonies etc. There seems to have been some convergence between these economic interests and this old imperial culture and the 60s progressives, the British equivalent of the French bobos.

    One can say that both of these cultures are cosmopolitan, “internationalist” would probably be too heavy a word (maybe that’s why they found it easy to converge).

    The old imperial ways are not something peculiar only to the Great Britain, we already spoke above about similar such class dynamics in the Russian Empire as well, where it had a geographic and economic dimension (and how it was connected to the later political turmoil). It’s just that in the Russian Empire it was more continental, whereas in the Great Britain it was maritime (maybe incorporating more distant cultures).

    But even when recognizing this “economic potential of the populations of the former colonies”, does it mean that one literally had to bring these populations onto the island itself in order to extract economic benefit? Couldn’t the British transform the old colonial ways to some kind of a new enterprising system (even if it is harder since one no longer “owns” the colonies)? Besides some of the immigrants being currently absorbed are not even from the former empire. This is now based on the general “open borders” ideology.

    [MORE]

    You can maybe see the difference in perspective between someone like Morgoth the YouTuber, who has a politically aware working class pov and members of the liberal managerial and admin elite, or global businessmen in London. The difference is large.

    This dichotomy has always been there, in other places as well. It’s just that in modern advanced countries there is a sort of unspoken consensus that the middle class and working class are to be taken care of or at least not heavily inconvenienced. But now it goes beyond just the class aspect – the identity aspect is involved as well (this seems a bit similar to the riflemen prior to 1917). I think it’s important to not only provide for the working class, but to not forget that this is first and foremost an identitarian struggle. Although having these two interconnected could make it potentially more explosive and really doesn’t speak well for society’s direction.

    I associate this with the existence of that gemeinschaft concept in Nordic and Germanic countries that doesn’t exist in the same way in the UK. Maybe to some extent but the word folk doesn’t seem to carry the same meaning as volk did in Germany say.

    That’s a good distinction. And gemeinschaft is a kind of unity and collectivism (don’t like this word, but it’s what it is) that is derived from within and not really imposed from above politically. The British are the fathers of classical liberalism where individual autonomy and rights prevail over the collective or national. This goes further into the way how society should be organized or should self-organize. One of the main tenets of classical liberalism is spontaneous order – voluntary interaction. So it is a bit different than gemeinschaft, since it is a voluntary interaction of free individuals, whereas in

    gemeinschaft

    this interaction and unity is something that stems from national consciousness.

    Volk, of course, is different from folk (and probably different from “a people”). The English speaking people have kin, kinship, kinsmen, but that seems to describe something smaller or a more intimate relationship than a Volk, even though one can view their whole nation as their kin. There are also such concepts as “home and hearth” (which, again, sounds closer tied to an individual family). And the British have the Commonwealth. In today’s Europe (or even the post-Enlightenment Europe in general), we are not supposed to talk about “a people” but we are supposed to be “societies” (as in civil societies), which is a more sophisticated type of nation or community, viewed more as a politicum than a tribe. We don’t like to view people based on their biology anymore, but based on a more cognitive culture.

    One issue might be that, the British, being the fathers of classical liberalism (which, in my opinion, is somewhat distinct from broader Enlightenment concepts, though connected), may find it challenging to relinquish these foundational ideas. With time, additional and perhaps more debatable ideas have been incorporated into this fundamental framework, making it difficult for British society to fully disengage from its roots which are classical liberal principles. We can argue that these liberal principles themselves are the root of the problem (reactionary philosophers such as Nietzsche would claim this), but the British thought is rational and based in empiricism, and it’s possible that these ideas where developed with the premise and the assumption that they will be used rationally. For example, even if individualism prevails, one would assume that free individuals would still love their country and act patriotically. Or that at least, they would acknowledge the value of the native identity and act with self-preservation. Or that the idea of utilitarianism, anther British concept, really demands that we don’t disadvantage the local working class to the point of where it begins to feel alienated. Etc, etc.

    Also, some of these concepts, from what I understand, originally were only applied to certain White males, and were not meant as universal, applied to all of humanity. But I’m not fully sure.

    There is relatively more individualism, British trade unionism was probably more dysfunctional and had more powerful and enterprising enemies among the old business/merchant class

    There were probably way more Jews present in the Great Britain than in Scandinavia. The Jews arrived with the Norman conquest (so extremely early). Whereas they were allowed into Scandinavia much later, also, Teutonic Knights kept them away from the Baltic lands early on. I’m not saying everything is their fault, but that element is most likely there.

    I am expecting it will become clearer in time, as the political impact of the demographic change in the Western countries gets harder to ignore. I am thinking in 10 years there should be stronger arguments/examples to use against these policies and more examples to use against too much idealism around immigration.

    This is very refreshing to hear (indeed, a ray of light in the general gloom and doom atmosphere). I’m pinning some of my hopes on this, although not all of them. But if this were to come true, it would be a very positive trend. I wonder where is the red line for the natives (since there is already not just political, but physical assault in some cases). Maybe in the US it could be “reparations”.

  416. @YetAnotherAnon
    @LatW

    See what I mean? In LatW world it's always 1941.

    No matter what unpleasantness took place in those years and up to WW1 (and there were many), when the Soviet Union broke up Latvia was still mainly populated by Letts, Poland by Poles, Estonia by Estonians.

    You people are like a man walking along a motorway backwards, looking where you've been, cursing the driver who killed your grandfather 35 years ago - as the sixteen wheel HGV rapidly approaches.

    My country (the UK) is trashed. Beyond redemption, absent some very unpleasant scenes which frankly just aren't British.

    You lot can still save yourselves. But I'm not at all sure you will.

    Replies: @LatW, @AP, @Europe Europa

    I don’t understand why right wing people in Britain always feel the need to shill for the Soviet Union and Russia. Despite mass immigration into Britain, Putin is not your friend. Putin is using third world invaders as a weapon, flying them in and sending them over the borders into Finland and Poland.

    Putin has no interest in helping you fight for a white Britain or repatriation of third worlders, a weakened, multi-racial, rudderless Britain/Western world with no cohesive identity is in Russia and China’s interests and they make that quite clear as far as I can see.

    Also, you criticise people for being against the Soviet/Russian occupation of their countries, yet I doubt you begrudge Irish nationalists for being against British control in Ireland. I don’t see the difference really. Why is Britain attacked for doing the same things that many seem to want to give a free pass to Russia for? This is another thing I don’t understand.

    The one up side about Russia’s behaviour, past and present, is that it creates a strong counter-argument to attacks on British history. Usually the sort of people who attack British history won’t hear a bad word about Russia and usually shut up pretty quickly if you retort with quoting ugly episodes in Russian history, of which there are many.

    • Agree: sudden death
    • Thanks: LatW
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Europe Europa

    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved. This has been semi-official Western policy for decades. If Russia is doing this now, it is either because she is in cahoots with Western globalists or is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn't have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves. Russia has it own invader problem from the 'stans which is surely fostered by globalists as well as frenemies of Russia.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow. If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots for putting the wheels in motion with irrational, dishonest and cowardly policies.

    Replies: @AP, @A123

    , @S
    @Europe Europa


    I don’t understand why right wing people in Britain always feel the need to shill for the Soviet Union and Russia. Despite mass immigration into Britain, Putin is not your friend.
     
    I agree. You had a similar thing going on in Europe after the 2016 election of Trump and people in Europe thinking Trump was going to rescue them.

    When someone is drowning they will latch onto anything.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

  417. @Sean
    Quisling said it was logical on a range of grounds that the Dnieper be the border between the West and Russia. It now seems in many ways he was a visionary. The Russian losses now may be numerically as bad as during initial assault on Kiev, yet consist of mainly convict volunteers rather than the professional cadre, so they are replaceable. Ukraine failed to follow up successes with all available forces on a single axis of advance, as a result Russia fortified then figured out sacrificial reconnaissance in force tactics and drew on prisons for abundant low quality manpower to implement it. Industrial scale production of arms including some pretty useful ones such as the FAB bombs and drones enable them to advance inexorably. All indications are that Russia is not quitting whatever the West does.

    Replies: @sudden death

    Industrial scale production of arms including some pretty useful ones such as the FAB bombs and drones enable them to advance inexorably. All indications are that Russia is not quitting whatever the West does.

    FAB’s are being released from fighter/bomber planes though, so here should come Western supplied aviation on the scene next year to counter some of it – not an aviation expert myself at all, but perhaps it might help more to hunt RF planes with air to air rockets or to blow up FAB’s itself when they’re still gliding in the air?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @sudden death

    Ukrainian or Western planes are exposed to a higher risk of shoot down than are Russian planes since Russia has superior ground-based long-range anti-aircraft missiles and radar. Russian air-launched anti-aircraft weapons seem mostly comparable to Western equivalents, though they have the long-range R-37 missile which may not have a counterpart in the West.

    Russia is apparently using her A-50 radar aircraft (similar to AWACS) to cue S-300 missiles in flight. This allows these missiles to attack Ukrainian aircraft and missiles below the radar horizon for ground based radar or maybe without using those radars. If Western missiles are used to attack A-50 aircraft flying over Belarus or Russia that probably puts Western AWACS aircraft over Poland or the Black Sea at risk as a quid pro quo.

    , @Sean
    @sudden death

    FABs are getting shot down, the drones are targeting the Ukrainians' battlefield AAA systems though. As is always the case with Russia, their way is mass effect, and they have the industrial capacity to produce crappy drones in enormous quantities. The defences of Bakhhmut were dismatled by sending Zstorm convicts to draw fire, thereby pinpointing the Ukrainian fortifications for targeting with FABs. . In Adiivica the Russians have refined their tactics by the professional soldiers including Wagner utilizing the treelines that are around Ukrainian fields for safer advance and mammoth (3,300 pound) FABs

    , @sudden death
    @sudden death


    Ukraine will very likely receive the first batch of F-16s before the end of 2023. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte confirmed on December 22 during a phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that the Dutch government will prepare an initial 18 F-16 fighter jets for delivery to Ukraine.[6] While Rutte did not confirm the timeline for F-16 delivery, a recent Estonian Ministry of Defense strategy document stated that the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, and Belgium have already committed to donating F-16s to Ukraine "before the end of the year [2023]."[7]
     
    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-22-2023

    Replies: @sudden death

  418. @Europe Europa
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I don't understand why right wing people in Britain always feel the need to shill for the Soviet Union and Russia. Despite mass immigration into Britain, Putin is not your friend. Putin is using third world invaders as a weapon, flying them in and sending them over the borders into Finland and Poland.

    Putin has no interest in helping you fight for a white Britain or repatriation of third worlders, a weakened, multi-racial, rudderless Britain/Western world with no cohesive identity is in Russia and China's interests and they make that quite clear as far as I can see.

    Also, you criticise people for being against the Soviet/Russian occupation of their countries, yet I doubt you begrudge Irish nationalists for being against British control in Ireland. I don't see the difference really. Why is Britain attacked for doing the same things that many seem to want to give a free pass to Russia for? This is another thing I don't understand.

    The one up side about Russia's behaviour, past and present, is that it creates a strong counter-argument to attacks on British history. Usually the sort of people who attack British history won't hear a bad word about Russia and usually shut up pretty quickly if you retort with quoting ugly episodes in Russian history, of which there are many.

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved. This has been semi-official Western policy for decades. If Russia is doing this now, it is either because she is in cahoots with Western globalists or is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn’t have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves. Russia has it own invader problem from the ‘stans which is surely fostered by globalists as well as frenemies of Russia.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow. If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots for putting the wheels in motion with irrational, dishonest and cowardly policies.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved
     
    Logical fallacy. Both can be and are true.

    Your argument is like saying that because there was terrorism in Europe before Middle Easterners came (IRA, Basques, Red Army Faction) recent policies didn’t contribute to terrorism.

    Russia has it own invader problem from the ‘stans which is surely fostered by globalists
     
    It is fostered by the Russian government, which spreads the problem to Ukraine.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow
     
    The Communist Party is the second most popular one in Russia and got about 20% of the vote in the most recent parliamentary election. The ruling party appropriates some of its ideas and legacy.

    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots
     
    Your usual myopia, never seeing the forest for the trees. You are a Westerner and you think the world revolves around what the West does.

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire, long before your nation existed (I am assuming you are from the USA). It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @Beckow

    , @A123
    @QCIC


    [Russia] is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn’t have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves.
     
    I made the exact same point previously.

    Russia and especially Belarus are using MENA origin migrants to place pressure & cost on hostile nations who back Kiev aggression. Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @LatW

  419. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. XYZ

    Madame de Stael, who was considered the most brilliant woman in Napoleonic France, asked him who was the greatest French woman. Napoleon told her straight out "the one who has borne the most children."

    I once knew a woman who had 12 brothers and sisters. She said that her mom didn't care for children much but she seemed to enjoy being pregnant. Professional managerial class women are unlikely to look on this recommendation with enthusiasm.

    Replies: @AP

    She said that her mom didn’t care for children much but she seemed to enjoy being pregnant

    Many women enjoy being pregnant, at least after the morning sickness subsides. My wife was one of those.

    It’s some weird antinatilist emphasis on the popular culture that presents pregnancy as somehow unpleasant.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @AP


    It’s some weird antinatilist emphasis on the popular culture that presents pregnancy as somehow unpleasant.
     
    Pregnancy can be quite pleasant, in the first trimester one can barely feel anything (some women don't have morning sickness, although I guess most do, also the woman's hair can get super beautiful), only the end of the last trimester can be a bit tough, but at that point you feel the baby moving all the time, which is exciting and gratifying. Pregnancy is pleasant, but the labor is very difficult. And what follows right after the labor. LOL

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  420. @QCIC
    @Europe Europa

    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved. This has been semi-official Western policy for decades. If Russia is doing this now, it is either because she is in cahoots with Western globalists or is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn't have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves. Russia has it own invader problem from the 'stans which is surely fostered by globalists as well as frenemies of Russia.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow. If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots for putting the wheels in motion with irrational, dishonest and cowardly policies.

    Replies: @AP, @A123

    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved

    Logical fallacy. Both can be and are true.

    Your argument is like saying that because there was terrorism in Europe before Middle Easterners came (IRA, Basques, Red Army Faction) recent policies didn’t contribute to terrorism.

    Russia has it own invader problem from the ‘stans which is surely fostered by globalists

    It is fostered by the Russian government, which spreads the problem to Ukraine.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow

    The Communist Party is the second most popular one in Russia and got about 20% of the vote in the most recent parliamentary election. The ruling party appropriates some of its ideas and legacy.

    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots

    Your usual myopia, never seeing the forest for the trees. You are a Westerner and you think the world revolves around what the West does.

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire, long before your nation existed (I am assuming you are from the USA). It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    QCIC wrote:


    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots for putting the wheels in motion with irrational, dishonest and cowardly policies.
     
    AP Replied:

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire [...]. It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    I know Russian history was shaped by a great many wars, with wins and losses, including titanic, civilization changing conflicts. I see this through a Cold War lens. Russia expected the West to come after her after the fall of the USSR which is why she kept her nuclear weapons arsenal ready to go. When the West dropped out of the ABM nuclear arms control treaty the West was announcing "We are coming for you, Russia". Everything else follows. The concern over Russian history led to fear which grew into cowardly tactics to take her down instead of unifying. This fear has been used to rationalize dishonest and irrational policies against Russia which have brought the world close to WW3.

    The reason these policies were irrational is there was never a winning scenario (i.e. not civilization ending) to truly take Russia down as long as her nuclear arsenal was intact. The rational policy was to continue negotiations and arms control treaties with integrity, while simultaneously building free-market ties between the USA and Russia. The combination of fear and blood lust in the West overcame such notions and led to the current situation.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Sean
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller,
     
    I don't think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness, especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe. In air power Nato is already even more dominant

    Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    Militarily, Russia is a clumsy stubborn power strongish in its nearest abroad that are not Nato members (ukraine). The energy sales for high prices (to the West) are dead. In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed. Putin could let the EC stew in its own juice, he certainly could not dream of attacking Nato, that is something his generals would tell him was a non-starter.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Philip Owen, @Cesar1191, @Derer

    , @Beckow
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    I see...then it follows that the most brilliant move was a half-ass grab of Ukraine on the cheap, provoke a war in the region that Moscow cares deeply about, threaten Russian security, proudly oppress the Russian minority living there. Right?

    Simply a brilliant plan. The result is a larger Russia directed at Europe. China, -stans and Middle East all benefitting. Is the consolation that Europe is more powerful and more determined? I am not sure that's true: Euros are congenitally weak, they won't fight and don't have the demographics for sustained deterrence - look at the Third World migrants flooding Europe, everyone knows it is going, but nobody will do anything.

    ...1,000 migrants crossing from Russia to Finland this year? There are already 400k migrants in Finland, and 50k came in 2022, Sweden has close to 2 million. But suddenly EU gets all hot under the collar about a few hundred. There are more than 1,000 coming in one day to Italy or Spain...and a crossing in Arizona where thousands come daily. It looks like a silly distraction by desperate open-border fanatics who finally found migrants they don't like - "because Russia"...

    You are losing this one: migrants are keep on coming and the Ukraine project is failing. What are you going to escape to next? There are Armenians or Tajiks in Moscow! And Finland is in Nato, hurrah!...and the unforgettable paused offensive... Look at this way, from the universe's point of view this is all just one long pause, it is ok. As we say in physics, if there is no hole, there is nothing...

    Replies: @AP, @LatW

  421. @sudden death
    @Sean


    Industrial scale production of arms including some pretty useful ones such as the FAB bombs and drones enable them to advance inexorably. All indications are that Russia is not quitting whatever the West does.
     
    FAB's are being released from fighter/bomber planes though, so here should come Western supplied aviation on the scene next year to counter some of it - not an aviation expert myself at all, but perhaps it might help more to hunt RF planes with air to air rockets or to blow up FAB's itself when they're still gliding in the air?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @sudden death

    Ukrainian or Western planes are exposed to a higher risk of shoot down than are Russian planes since Russia has superior ground-based long-range anti-aircraft missiles and radar. Russian air-launched anti-aircraft weapons seem mostly comparable to Western equivalents, though they have the long-range R-37 missile which may not have a counterpart in the West.

    Russia is apparently using her A-50 radar aircraft (similar to AWACS) to cue S-300 missiles in flight. This allows these missiles to attack Ukrainian aircraft and missiles below the radar horizon for ground based radar or maybe without using those radars. If Western missiles are used to attack A-50 aircraft flying over Belarus or Russia that probably puts Western AWACS aircraft over Poland or the Black Sea at risk as a quid pro quo.

  422. @QCIC
    @Europe Europa

    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved. This has been semi-official Western policy for decades. If Russia is doing this now, it is either because she is in cahoots with Western globalists or is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn't have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves. Russia has it own invader problem from the 'stans which is surely fostered by globalists as well as frenemies of Russia.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow. If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots for putting the wheels in motion with irrational, dishonest and cowardly policies.

    Replies: @AP, @A123

    [Russia] is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn’t have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves.

    I made the exact same point previously.

    Russia and especially Belarus are using MENA origin migrants to place pressure & cost on hostile nations who back Kiev aggression. Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @A123


    Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.
     
    A much better proposition would be for the aggressor state, Russia, to pull in its imperialistic ambitions and not foment wars with its neighbors. I don't know why it's so difficult for you to understand this?
    , @LatW
    @A123


    Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.
     
    You expect these states to close their eyes to a mass invasion with massive civilian casualties and major atrocities, even if these states can be the next targets? You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door? If someone organized a Bucha next door to you, you'd just ignore? Pretend like nothing happened?

    Replies: @A123

  423. @sudden death
    @Sean


    Industrial scale production of arms including some pretty useful ones such as the FAB bombs and drones enable them to advance inexorably. All indications are that Russia is not quitting whatever the West does.
     
    FAB's are being released from fighter/bomber planes though, so here should come Western supplied aviation on the scene next year to counter some of it - not an aviation expert myself at all, but perhaps it might help more to hunt RF planes with air to air rockets or to blow up FAB's itself when they're still gliding in the air?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @sudden death

    FABs are getting shot down, the drones are targeting the Ukrainians’ battlefield AAA systems though. As is always the case with Russia, their way is mass effect, and they have the industrial capacity to produce crappy drones in enormous quantities. The defences of Bakhhmut were dismatled by sending Zstorm convicts to draw fire, thereby pinpointing the Ukrainian fortifications for targeting with FABs. . In Adiivica the Russians have refined their tactics by the professional soldiers including Wagner utilizing the treelines that are around Ukrainian fields for safer advance and mammoth (3,300 pound) FABs

  424. @A123
    @QCIC


    [Russia] is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn’t have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves.
     
    I made the exact same point previously.

    Russia and especially Belarus are using MENA origin migrants to place pressure & cost on hostile nations who back Kiev aggression. Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @LatW

    Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.

    A much better proposition would be for the aggressor state, Russia, to pull in its imperialistic ambitions and not foment wars with its neighbors. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for you to understand this?

  425. @AP
    @QCIC


    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved
     
    Logical fallacy. Both can be and are true.

    Your argument is like saying that because there was terrorism in Europe before Middle Easterners came (IRA, Basques, Red Army Faction) recent policies didn’t contribute to terrorism.

    Russia has it own invader problem from the ‘stans which is surely fostered by globalists
     
    It is fostered by the Russian government, which spreads the problem to Ukraine.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow
     
    The Communist Party is the second most popular one in Russia and got about 20% of the vote in the most recent parliamentary election. The ruling party appropriates some of its ideas and legacy.

    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots
     
    Your usual myopia, never seeing the forest for the trees. You are a Westerner and you think the world revolves around what the West does.

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire, long before your nation existed (I am assuming you are from the USA). It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @Beckow

    QCIC wrote:

    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots for putting the wheels in motion with irrational, dishonest and cowardly policies.

    AP Replied:

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire […]. It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    I know Russian history was shaped by a great many wars, with wins and losses, including titanic, civilization changing conflicts. I see this through a Cold War lens. Russia expected the West to come after her after the fall of the USSR which is why she kept her nuclear weapons arsenal ready to go. When the West dropped out of the ABM nuclear arms control treaty the West was announcing “We are coming for you, Russia”. Everything else follows. The concern over Russian history led to fear which grew into cowardly tactics to take her down instead of unifying. This fear has been used to rationalize dishonest and irrational policies against Russia which have brought the world close to WW3.

    The reason these policies were irrational is there was never a winning scenario (i.e. not civilization ending) to truly take Russia down as long as her nuclear arsenal was intact. The rational policy was to continue negotiations and arms control treaties with integrity, while simultaneously building free-market ties between the USA and Russia. The combination of fear and blood lust in the West overcame such notions and led to the current situation.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @QCIC

    According to Jack Matlock, the lack of interest in arms control began as soon as Reagan left office, and the people Clinton brought in thought the US ought to press its advantage more.

    Replies: @QCIC

  426. @AP
    @QCIC


    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved
     
    Logical fallacy. Both can be and are true.

    Your argument is like saying that because there was terrorism in Europe before Middle Easterners came (IRA, Basques, Red Army Faction) recent policies didn’t contribute to terrorism.

    Russia has it own invader problem from the ‘stans which is surely fostered by globalists
     
    It is fostered by the Russian government, which spreads the problem to Ukraine.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow
     
    The Communist Party is the second most popular one in Russia and got about 20% of the vote in the most recent parliamentary election. The ruling party appropriates some of its ideas and legacy.

    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots
     
    Your usual myopia, never seeing the forest for the trees. You are a Westerner and you think the world revolves around what the West does.

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire, long before your nation existed (I am assuming you are from the USA). It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @Beckow

    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller,

    I don’t think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness, especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe. In air power Nato is already even more dominant

    Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    Militarily, Russia is a clumsy stubborn power strongish in its nearest abroad that are not Nato members (ukraine). The energy sales for high prices (to the West) are dead. In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed. Putin could let the EC stew in its own juice, he certainly could not dream of attacking Nato, that is something his generals would tell him was a non-starter.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Sean


    ...I don’t think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness
     
    Really? That is among the more ignorant statements here. Of course it will, get real.

    provoked a NATO build up...Germany losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing...have to pay for its own defence now
     
    Euro economies have prospered based on small military expenses, cheap energy-natural resources from Russia, Middle East, Africa..., high-quality exports. That has allowed for a large non-productive meta-economy sitting on top of the productive engine: endless EU projects, green make-belief, handouts to everyone from gender multi-culti HR specialists, "enterpreneurs" paid to present slides, and to migrants...

    The productive engine will be impacted by higher costs and by losing markets to cheaper competition and EU will need to trim its huge meta-economy. Spending money on "defense" is not consumable and it will add to the squeeze. If they restart the military service Europe will get a lot of well trained Third Worlders, who do you think young men in France, Germany, Belgium are?...that could be really fun.

    The whole Ukie project was pure idiocy, now for the consequences. The best option would be to say 'nevermind' and move on. But I am not sure Russia would go for it.

    , @AP
    @Sean


    I don’t think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness
     
    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

    It would accompany the final integration of Belarus (11 million people).

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

    especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe

     

    It’s moving in that direction, but so far Poland is advancing most quickly. Germany’s military is still a shell.

    Replies: @Sean, @Cesar1191

    , @Philip Owen
    @Sean

    High temperature reactors will be providing 900 C +process heat for chemicals, concrete and red hydrogen for steel in 5-7 years. The Japanese are building a commercial scale reactor now. The British have had 7 operating, just for electricity, since the 1980s. There is a fix. German industry won't disappear overnight. Most of its exports are about very high added value on top of the raw materials and the plant and equipment is in place for a while. Some lower added value production might continue to shift to Poland (coal and nukes) or Turkey but this is not news.

    , @Cesar1191
    @Sean


    In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed
     
    Germany investing more in its infrastructure and industry will be good for the German economy in the medium and long term. Germany needed to do this before 2022, and now they are being forced to increase their industrial capacity and generate more skilled factory jobs.

    Remember that Germany has its own military-industrial complex, so more money for the sector equals more German production. Germany is an exporter of military equipment, despite the fact that its military industry had atrophied. Now, with new investment, they may be able to breathe new life into an industry that they have traditionally excelled at.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Derer
    @Sean


    NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe.
     
    Your childishly assume that Germany, in the case of conflict, would stay allied with their present occupier. They will switch to their beneficial alliance with Russia in a moment. They are listening to the ghost of Napoleon and Hitler.

    Replies: @Sean

  427. @QCIC
    @AP

    QCIC wrote:


    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots for putting the wheels in motion with irrational, dishonest and cowardly policies.
     
    AP Replied:

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire [...]. It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    I know Russian history was shaped by a great many wars, with wins and losses, including titanic, civilization changing conflicts. I see this through a Cold War lens. Russia expected the West to come after her after the fall of the USSR which is why she kept her nuclear weapons arsenal ready to go. When the West dropped out of the ABM nuclear arms control treaty the West was announcing "We are coming for you, Russia". Everything else follows. The concern over Russian history led to fear which grew into cowardly tactics to take her down instead of unifying. This fear has been used to rationalize dishonest and irrational policies against Russia which have brought the world close to WW3.

    The reason these policies were irrational is there was never a winning scenario (i.e. not civilization ending) to truly take Russia down as long as her nuclear arsenal was intact. The rational policy was to continue negotiations and arms control treaties with integrity, while simultaneously building free-market ties between the USA and Russia. The combination of fear and blood lust in the West overcame such notions and led to the current situation.

    Replies: @Sean

    According to Jack Matlock, the lack of interest in arms control began as soon as Reagan left office, and the people Clinton brought in thought the US ought to press its advantage more.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    I think the first Gulf War was the opening act of the "The Russians are down, let's take 'em out!" chapter.

  428. @AP
    @QCIC


    Western Europe, the UK and the USA were allowing excess numbers of third worlders into their countries long before Russia got involved
     
    Logical fallacy. Both can be and are true.

    Your argument is like saying that because there was terrorism in Europe before Middle Easterners came (IRA, Basques, Red Army Faction) recent policies didn’t contribute to terrorism.

    Russia has it own invader problem from the ‘stans which is surely fostered by globalists
     
    It is fostered by the Russian government, which spreads the problem to Ukraine.

    The USSR is gone. There are probably as many devout Commies in Western capitals as in Moscow
     
    The Communist Party is the second most popular one in Russia and got about 20% of the vote in the most recent parliamentary election. The ruling party appropriates some of its ideas and legacy.

    If the Russian Federation turns into an aggressive military empire it will be substantially the fault of Western idiots
     
    Your usual myopia, never seeing the forest for the trees. You are a Westerner and you think the world revolves around what the West does.

    Russia has always been an aggressive military empire, long before your nation existed (I am assuming you are from the USA). It is the student and heir of one of the most aggressive military empires in history. Once it got on its feet it was bound to eventually become what it is becoming. The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @Beckow

    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.

    I see…then it follows that the most brilliant move was a half-ass grab of Ukraine on the cheap, provoke a war in the region that Moscow cares deeply about, threaten Russian security, proudly oppress the Russian minority living there. Right?

    Simply a brilliant plan. The result is a larger Russia directed at Europe. China, -stans and Middle East all benefitting. Is the consolation that Europe is more powerful and more determined? I am not sure that’s true: Euros are congenitally weak, they won’t fight and don’t have the demographics for sustained deterrence – look at the Third World migrants flooding Europe, everyone knows it is going, but nobody will do anything.

    …1,000 migrants crossing from Russia to Finland this year? There are already 400k migrants in Finland, and 50k came in 2022, Sweden has close to 2 million. But suddenly EU gets all hot under the collar about a few hundred. There are more than 1,000 coming in one day to Italy or Spain…and a crossing in Arizona where thousands come daily. It looks like a silly distraction by desperate open-border fanatics who finally found migrants they don’t like – “because Russia“…

    You are losing this one: migrants are keep on coming and the Ukraine project is failing. What are you going to escape to next? There are Armenians or Tajiks in Moscow! And Finland is in Nato, hurrah!…and the unforgettable paused offensive… Look at this way, from the universe’s point of view this is all just one long pause, it is ok. As we say in physics, if there is no hole, there is nothing…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    I see…then it follows that the most brilliant move was a half-ass grab of Ukraine on the cheap
     
    The correct move is to incorporate Ukraine into Europe in order to keep Russia smaller. The nice thing about that is that the Ukrainian people want this too. Letting Russia keep scraps like Donbas or Crimea (whose people do not want Europe) would be acceptable.

    I agree that a half-assed approach is not enough. It is enough to produce a stalemate (Russia is weak enough for such a result) but not enough to end the war on satisfactory terms.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    It looks like a silly distraction by desperate open-border fanatics who finally found migrants they don’t like – “because Russia“…
     
    No, Beckow, the truth is that the actual countries that are affected, have seen the migrant flow rise significantly, these countries do not want these migrants and are forced to allocate more resources to stop them. Russia and Belarus are in fact doing something harmful to their neighbors. That's a very simple fact. These migrants are coming to places where there were no migrants before (or very few). Same as there is now a mosque in Mariupol where there was none before just a year ago (because Russia invaded and set up a mosque).

    Replies: @Beckow

  429. @Sean
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller,
     
    I don't think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness, especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe. In air power Nato is already even more dominant

    Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    Militarily, Russia is a clumsy stubborn power strongish in its nearest abroad that are not Nato members (ukraine). The energy sales for high prices (to the West) are dead. In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed. Putin could let the EC stew in its own juice, he certainly could not dream of attacking Nato, that is something his generals would tell him was a non-starter.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Philip Owen, @Cesar1191, @Derer

    …I don’t think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness

    Really? That is among the more ignorant statements here. Of course it will, get real.

    provoked a NATO build up…Germany losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing…have to pay for its own defence now

    Euro economies have prospered based on small military expenses, cheap energy-natural resources from Russia, Middle East, Africa…, high-quality exports. That has allowed for a large non-productive meta-economy sitting on top of the productive engine: endless EU projects, green make-belief, handouts to everyone from gender multi-culti HR specialists, “enterpreneurs” paid to present slides, and to migrants…

    The productive engine will be impacted by higher costs and by losing markets to cheaper competition and EU will need to trim its huge meta-economy. Spending money on “defense” is not consumable and it will add to the squeeze. If they restart the military service Europe will get a lot of well trained Third Worlders, who do you think young men in France, Germany, Belgium are?…that could be really fun.

    The whole Ukie project was pure idiocy, now for the consequences. The best option would be to say ‘nevermind’ and move on. But I am not sure Russia would go for it.

  430. @Beckow
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    I see...then it follows that the most brilliant move was a half-ass grab of Ukraine on the cheap, provoke a war in the region that Moscow cares deeply about, threaten Russian security, proudly oppress the Russian minority living there. Right?

    Simply a brilliant plan. The result is a larger Russia directed at Europe. China, -stans and Middle East all benefitting. Is the consolation that Europe is more powerful and more determined? I am not sure that's true: Euros are congenitally weak, they won't fight and don't have the demographics for sustained deterrence - look at the Third World migrants flooding Europe, everyone knows it is going, but nobody will do anything.

    ...1,000 migrants crossing from Russia to Finland this year? There are already 400k migrants in Finland, and 50k came in 2022, Sweden has close to 2 million. But suddenly EU gets all hot under the collar about a few hundred. There are more than 1,000 coming in one day to Italy or Spain...and a crossing in Arizona where thousands come daily. It looks like a silly distraction by desperate open-border fanatics who finally found migrants they don't like - "because Russia"...

    You are losing this one: migrants are keep on coming and the Ukraine project is failing. What are you going to escape to next? There are Armenians or Tajiks in Moscow! And Finland is in Nato, hurrah!...and the unforgettable paused offensive... Look at this way, from the universe's point of view this is all just one long pause, it is ok. As we say in physics, if there is no hole, there is nothing...

    Replies: @AP, @LatW

    I see…then it follows that the most brilliant move was a half-ass grab of Ukraine on the cheap

    The correct move is to incorporate Ukraine into Europe in order to keep Russia smaller. The nice thing about that is that the Ukrainian people want this too. Letting Russia keep scraps like Donbas or Crimea (whose people do not want Europe) would be acceptable.

    I agree that a half-assed approach is not enough. It is enough to produce a stalemate (Russia is weak enough for such a result) but not enough to end the war on satisfactory terms.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    The correct move is to incorporate Ukraine into Europe in order to keep Russia smaller...Ukrainian people want this too...Donbas or Crimea whose people do not want Europe.
     
    The same move that led Kiev to the dead-end...if your plan got you here and it's not working, maybe you should reconsider.

    Kiev and Europe claim that Crimea-Donbas are Ukraine and people living there are Ukrainians - you literally say two opposite things in the same sentence: "want Europe", "do not want..." - picture of mental chaos in your mind, and in Kiev.

    The Western help was always going to be half-ass - it is built into the situation and not going to change. Over time it will become more half-ass...So Ukies got nothing: suffering nation bleeding for unreachable goals and to avoid its sponsors losing face. How long can that go on? Until there is almost nothing left of Ukraine?

    Replies: @AP

  431. @LatW
    @Beckow


    why are Americans so visibly inflamed?
     
    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not "visibly inflamed". Some might be - maybe it's too much beer? Or MSG?

    But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.
     
    No, not 80%. One can get high quality food even if they're not UMC.

    Even for the poor, it's possible to get quality food cheaply in the US, but it will require extra effort (time). A lot of vegetables are still cheap (interestingly, some ethnic food, such as Mexican, because it is eaten by Mexicans, is cheaper - once Whites start buying it, it could get more expensive, such as tomatillos).

    There are options to buy in bulk and freeze food (including things such as grass fed beef or wild fish). There are services such as Misfits Market and Imperfect Foods that will send you cheap food that just happens to not look perfect but is nutritionally the same (or these could be rescued items from last minute cancellations).

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don't need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food - if you have multiple children, your allotted amount could be up to a thousand dollars per month). The military wives get to shop at the commissaries. If one is really poor, there are food banks.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP, @John Johnson

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket

    American obesity depends on social class, geographic region, and ethnicity (and these are partially connected).

    Areas with a lot of wealthy people such as southern New England, New Jersey, and Vermont are not much different from Europe.

    Obesity rates:

    In Massachusetts it’s 27.4%, in NJ 28.2%. Etc.

    https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/most-obese-states/

    Compare that to 27.8% in UK, 26% in Czechia, 26.2% Hungary, 23.2% Poland.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-rates-by-country

    It’s not a striking difference. There is even some overlap.

    OTOH, the obesity rate in Alabama is about 40%, in Missouri 37%.

  432. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    How many days before mold shows up? If mold isn't hungry for it then perhaps we shouldn't be hungry for it. I cannot get through a whole loaf of quality bread in four days or less and the bread I like starts showing mold in three.

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions. It looks like even I am not capable of screwing this up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys-USJiYWGQ

    Replies: @LatW, @AnonfromTN

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions.

    You don’t need to. You can get in the US real bread, not that American styrofoam that even mold refuses to eat. I did not buy that crap in >20 years, consuming exclusively Italian, French, German, and Russian bread. Based on the “opinion” of mold, all of these breads are edible. Most kinds survive freeze-thaw cycle, remaining a lot better than what large American manufacturers call bread.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    You are usually right when it comes to food. And you are correct here.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  433. @Sean
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller,
     
    I don't think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness, especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe. In air power Nato is already even more dominant

    Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    Militarily, Russia is a clumsy stubborn power strongish in its nearest abroad that are not Nato members (ukraine). The energy sales for high prices (to the West) are dead. In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed. Putin could let the EC stew in its own juice, he certainly could not dream of attacking Nato, that is something his generals would tell him was a non-starter.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Philip Owen, @Cesar1191, @Derer

    I don’t think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness

    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

    It would accompany the final integration of Belarus (11 million people).

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

    especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe

    It’s moving in that direction, but so far Poland is advancing most quickly. Germany’s military is still a shell.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @AP


    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.
     
    You better watch what you are smoking.
    , @Cesar1191
    @AP


    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

     

    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022? Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia's population close to 200 million.

    That would be a serious boost. This population increase would have allowed Russia to overtake the Japanese economy and become the undisputed largest economy in Europe, in PPP terms, even assuming that Russia was only able to slightly increase its current GDP per capita. And of course, there are all kinds of advantages to economies of scale. Such a Russia would have a much better ability to create spheres of influence and keep other powers out.

    If you're thinking of a way to reverse Russia's geopolitical decline, this was a decent plan, assuming Russia's elite were competent enough to be able to execute it. The problem would be the sanctions regime and the impact on Russia's long-term growth, but I guess one can try to argue that there are ways around that, if one is competent enough.

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

     

    NATO wouldn't need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia. Failure to do so would be credibility ruining for the US, UK and others.

    The real danger is if the US leaves NATO, because that basically ends the alliance. Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion. This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

  434. @Sean
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller,
     
    I don't think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness, especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe. In air power Nato is already even more dominant

    Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    Militarily, Russia is a clumsy stubborn power strongish in its nearest abroad that are not Nato members (ukraine). The energy sales for high prices (to the West) are dead. In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed. Putin could let the EC stew in its own juice, he certainly could not dream of attacking Nato, that is something his generals would tell him was a non-starter.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Philip Owen, @Cesar1191, @Derer

    High temperature reactors will be providing 900 C +process heat for chemicals, concrete and red hydrogen for steel in 5-7 years. The Japanese are building a commercial scale reactor now. The British have had 7 operating, just for electricity, since the 1980s. There is a fix. German industry won’t disappear overnight. Most of its exports are about very high added value on top of the raw materials and the plant and equipment is in place for a while. Some lower added value production might continue to shift to Poland (coal and nukes) or Turkey but this is not news.

    • Disagree: Sean
  435. @AP
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    She said that her mom didn’t care for children much but she seemed to enjoy being pregnant
     
    Many women enjoy being pregnant, at least after the morning sickness subsides. My wife was one of those.

    It’s some weird antinatilist emphasis on the popular culture that presents pregnancy as somehow unpleasant.

    Replies: @LatW

    It’s some weird antinatilist emphasis on the popular culture that presents pregnancy as somehow unpleasant.

    Pregnancy can be quite pleasant, in the first trimester one can barely feel anything (some women don’t have morning sickness, although I guess most do, also the woman’s hair can get super beautiful), only the end of the last trimester can be a bit tough, but at that point you feel the baby moving all the time, which is exciting and gratifying. Pregnancy is pleasant, but the labor is very difficult. And what follows right after the labor. LOL

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    And what follows right after the labor. LOL
     
    Taking care of the baby?

    Replies: @LatW

  436. @Beckow
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller, keep oneself powerful as a deterrent, and encourage Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    I see...then it follows that the most brilliant move was a half-ass grab of Ukraine on the cheap, provoke a war in the region that Moscow cares deeply about, threaten Russian security, proudly oppress the Russian minority living there. Right?

    Simply a brilliant plan. The result is a larger Russia directed at Europe. China, -stans and Middle East all benefitting. Is the consolation that Europe is more powerful and more determined? I am not sure that's true: Euros are congenitally weak, they won't fight and don't have the demographics for sustained deterrence - look at the Third World migrants flooding Europe, everyone knows it is going, but nobody will do anything.

    ...1,000 migrants crossing from Russia to Finland this year? There are already 400k migrants in Finland, and 50k came in 2022, Sweden has close to 2 million. But suddenly EU gets all hot under the collar about a few hundred. There are more than 1,000 coming in one day to Italy or Spain...and a crossing in Arizona where thousands come daily. It looks like a silly distraction by desperate open-border fanatics who finally found migrants they don't like - "because Russia"...

    You are losing this one: migrants are keep on coming and the Ukraine project is failing. What are you going to escape to next? There are Armenians or Tajiks in Moscow! And Finland is in Nato, hurrah!...and the unforgettable paused offensive... Look at this way, from the universe's point of view this is all just one long pause, it is ok. As we say in physics, if there is no hole, there is nothing...

    Replies: @AP, @LatW

    It looks like a silly distraction by desperate open-border fanatics who finally found migrants they don’t like – “because Russia“…

    No, Beckow, the truth is that the actual countries that are affected, have seen the migrant flow rise significantly, these countries do not want these migrants and are forced to allocate more resources to stop them. Russia and Belarus are in fact doing something harmful to their neighbors. That’s a very simple fact. These migrants are coming to places where there were no migrants before (or very few). Same as there is now a mosque in Mariupol where there was none before just a year ago (because Russia invaded and set up a mosque).

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...Russia and Belarus are in fact doing something harmful to their neighbors.
     
    And Europe to them. It is a war, they try to hurt each other.

    These migrants are coming to places where there were no migrants before (or very few).
     
    I am sorry 400k migrants in Finland is not "very few", it is 8% of the population. Another 1k through Russia is statistically insignificant.

    About 50 times more Indians and other migrants go to Poland to "work" than how many sneak through Belarus. This outrage by Finland is a show. It does nothing to migration to Europe with 50 to 75 million migrants, it is a distraction.


    mosque in Mariupol where there was none before...
     
    Europe and the West explicitly and violently rejected Russia as an equal. There is no dispute about it - you openly admit to hating them as does half of Euro politicians. Now Russia has found new friends. If the West can try to be friends with the Third World why shouldn't Russia? How many mosques are in London or Brussels?

    The West chose to do this and it is backfiring. They have to live with the consequences.

    Replies: @LatW

  437. @AP
    @Beckow


    I see…then it follows that the most brilliant move was a half-ass grab of Ukraine on the cheap
     
    The correct move is to incorporate Ukraine into Europe in order to keep Russia smaller. The nice thing about that is that the Ukrainian people want this too. Letting Russia keep scraps like Donbas or Crimea (whose people do not want Europe) would be acceptable.

    I agree that a half-assed approach is not enough. It is enough to produce a stalemate (Russia is weak enough for such a result) but not enough to end the war on satisfactory terms.

    Replies: @Beckow

    The correct move is to incorporate Ukraine into Europe in order to keep Russia smaller…Ukrainian people want this too…Donbas or Crimea whose people do not want Europe.

    The same move that led Kiev to the dead-end…if your plan got you here and it’s not working, maybe you should reconsider.

    Kiev and Europe claim that Crimea-Donbas are Ukraine and people living there are Ukrainians – you literally say two opposite things in the same sentence: “want Europe”, “do not want…” – picture of mental chaos in your mind, and in Kiev.

    The Western help was always going to be half-ass – it is built into the situation and not going to change. Over time it will become more half-ass…So Ukies got nothing: suffering nation bleeding for unreachable goals and to avoid its sponsors losing face. How long can that go on? Until there is almost nothing left of Ukraine?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Kiev and Europe claim that Crimea-Donbas are Ukraine and people living there are Ukrainians – you literally say two opposite things in the same sentence: “want Europe”, “do not want…” – picture of mental chaos in your mind, and in Kiev
     
    Don’t lie as usual.

    I have been clear and consistent in pointing out that the pre-2022 line was a good border and that Crimea had a non-Ukrainian majority and the parts of Donbas controlled by Russia were heavily Russian (Donetsk city having more Russians than Ukrainians). The parts ruled by Kiev OTOH were Ukrainian.

    I am not “Kiev and Europe.” They can and did have a different view then mine.


    So Ukies got nothing


     

    They prevented annexation by Russia.
  438. @Sean
    @QCIC

    According to Jack Matlock, the lack of interest in arms control began as soon as Reagan left office, and the people Clinton brought in thought the US ought to press its advantage more.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the first Gulf War was the opening act of the “The Russians are down, let’s take ’em out!” chapter.

  439. @LatW
    @Beckow


    It looks like a silly distraction by desperate open-border fanatics who finally found migrants they don’t like – “because Russia“…
     
    No, Beckow, the truth is that the actual countries that are affected, have seen the migrant flow rise significantly, these countries do not want these migrants and are forced to allocate more resources to stop them. Russia and Belarus are in fact doing something harmful to their neighbors. That's a very simple fact. These migrants are coming to places where there were no migrants before (or very few). Same as there is now a mosque in Mariupol where there was none before just a year ago (because Russia invaded and set up a mosque).

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Russia and Belarus are in fact doing something harmful to their neighbors.

    And Europe to them. It is a war, they try to hurt each other.

    These migrants are coming to places where there were no migrants before (or very few).

    I am sorry 400k migrants in Finland is not “very few”, it is 8% of the population. Another 1k through Russia is statistically insignificant.

    About 50 times more Indians and other migrants go to Poland to “work” than how many sneak through Belarus. This outrage by Finland is a show. It does nothing to migration to Europe with 50 to 75 million migrants, it is a distraction.

    mosque in Mariupol where there was none before…

    Europe and the West explicitly and violently rejected Russia as an equal. There is no dispute about it – you openly admit to hating them as does half of Euro politicians. Now Russia has found new friends. If the West can try to be friends with the Third World why shouldn’t Russia? How many mosques are in London or Brussels?

    The West chose to do this and it is backfiring. They have to live with the consequences.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    And Europe to them. It is a war, they try to hurt each other.
     
    That there is a war is true, but that Europe has tried to hurt the actual territories of Russia or Belarus is not true. Europe has explicitly abstained from taking the route of directly attacking Russia (even in a hybrid manner). Sending illegal migrants, deliberately and in a calculated way, is an attack on the neighbors' sovereignty - a physical attack. It is an attack on Europeans and the White world. That you are nonchalant about this (or, in fact, consider this ok, that says a lot about you).

    I am sorry 400k migrants in Finland is not “very few”
     
    In Poland and the Baltics there are very few. In Finland - fewer than in other Western countries. Do you understand the difference between legal and illegal migration? Do you understand why rule of law matters?

    And just because Finland has some, doesn't mean they need more, especially illegally. Russia is doing everything now to ruin relations with all neighbors.


    About 100 times more Indians and other migrants go to Poland to “work” than how many sneak through from Belarus.
     
    Indians who arrive for work are recruited there specifically by the employers and aim to be productive, this is done based on the needs of those employers and with the permission of the state, the mostly young men that are sent through the border are of questionable character or use and they are there illegally.

    This is a show
     
    No, it is open aggression. And the citizens of those states do not like it.

    Europe and the West explicitly and violently rejected Russia as an equal.
     
    Why should they be accepted as equal when they have proven to be unable to introduce basic democratic and human rights norms?

    So Russia has found new friends.
     

    That they found new friends (yea, right, especially in Chechnya! Those are some real friends, aha), is not something we care about, what we care about is that there are no mosques on European soil. Or any kind of invaders.

    Replies: @Beckow

  440. @A123
    @QCIC


    [Russia] is simply piling on because the country is in the midst of an existential war and will use any weapon that doesn’t have too much risk of backlash. There is no risk of backlash here since the West is already intentionally bringing these invaders into their countries in droves.
     
    I made the exact same point previously.

    Russia and especially Belarus are using MENA origin migrants to place pressure & cost on hostile nations who back Kiev aggression. Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @LatW

    Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.

    You expect these states to close their eyes to a mass invasion with massive civilian casualties and major atrocities, even if these states can be the next targets? You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door? If someone organized a Bucha next door to you, you’d just ignore? Pretend like nothing happened?

    • Replies: @A123
    @LatW


    You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door?
     
    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.

    Everyone should be concerned about Ukraine's aggressive ideology.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP, @QCIC, @John Johnson

  441. Mr Hack I was going to ask how your hi-fi system has been developing?

    I remember last time you discussed you were connecting it to your television?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    Not made any upgrades etc; to my system. I actually don't even use it that much and have reverted to listening to music on my computer, at home and at work. I've become very modern now, and have reverted to "minimalism". :-) Besides Dmitry, I think that it was you who suggested that I plug in my TV to my stereo system, which probably isn't such a bad idea, but they're both actually located in separate rooms.

    But I'm glad that you've brought up the subject. Here's the deal, I have many varied tastes in music and spending a lot of potential money on CD' could be diverted to other uses. Where does it all end, when there's no end in sight? In accord with my ever developing credo of minimalism, I'm seriously thinking about going in another totally different direction. Hook up a laptop to my stereo system and acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify. Have you ever looked through their vast library of music that was originally produced on CD's? More than you and I both could ever accumulate in our lifetimes. Of course, I do enjoy reading the little booklets that accompany the CD's with all of the little details, but I'd have access to a world class library of music for what, $10 a month...what do you think?

    Replies: @Dmitry

  442. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...Russia and Belarus are in fact doing something harmful to their neighbors.
     
    And Europe to them. It is a war, they try to hurt each other.

    These migrants are coming to places where there were no migrants before (or very few).
     
    I am sorry 400k migrants in Finland is not "very few", it is 8% of the population. Another 1k through Russia is statistically insignificant.

    About 50 times more Indians and other migrants go to Poland to "work" than how many sneak through Belarus. This outrage by Finland is a show. It does nothing to migration to Europe with 50 to 75 million migrants, it is a distraction.


    mosque in Mariupol where there was none before...
     
    Europe and the West explicitly and violently rejected Russia as an equal. There is no dispute about it - you openly admit to hating them as does half of Euro politicians. Now Russia has found new friends. If the West can try to be friends with the Third World why shouldn't Russia? How many mosques are in London or Brussels?

    The West chose to do this and it is backfiring. They have to live with the consequences.

    Replies: @LatW

    And Europe to them. It is a war, they try to hurt each other.

    That there is a war is true, but that Europe has tried to hurt the actual territories of Russia or Belarus is not true. Europe has explicitly abstained from taking the route of directly attacking Russia (even in a hybrid manner). Sending illegal migrants, deliberately and in a calculated way, is an attack on the neighbors’ sovereignty – a physical attack. It is an attack on Europeans and the White world. That you are nonchalant about this (or, in fact, consider this ok, that says a lot about you).

    I am sorry 400k migrants in Finland is not “very few”

    In Poland and the Baltics there are very few. In Finland – fewer than in other Western countries. Do you understand the difference between legal and illegal migration? Do you understand why rule of law matters?

    And just because Finland has some, doesn’t mean they need more, especially illegally. Russia is doing everything now to ruin relations with all neighbors.

    About 100 times more Indians and other migrants go to Poland to “work” than how many sneak through from Belarus.

    Indians who arrive for work are recruited there specifically by the employers and aim to be productive, this is done based on the needs of those employers and with the permission of the state, the mostly young men that are sent through the border are of questionable character or use and they are there illegally.

    This is a show

    No, it is open aggression. And the citizens of those states do not like it.

    Europe and the West explicitly and violently rejected Russia as an equal.

    Why should they be accepted as equal when they have proven to be unable to introduce basic democratic and human rights norms?

    So Russia has found new friends.

    That they found new friends (yea, right, especially in Chechnya! Those are some real friends, aha), is not something we care about, what we care about is that there are no mosques on European soil. Or any kind of invaders.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...Europe has explicitly abstained from taking the route of directly attacking Russia (even in a hybrid manner)
     
    That's simply not true - Europe has given Kiev missiles and other weapons that have been used directly on Russia. Imagine Russia giving missiles to some country (or a group) that would then launch them at Euro cities...but France and UK have done that with regard to Russia.

    It is an attack on Europeans and the White world. That you are nonchalant about this...
     
    Wow. White world...we are home my Latvian friend. I would be less nonchalant if Western Europe was actually still recognizably European (let's not do "white", keep that for your weekly neo-Nazi re-unions).

    Do you understand the difference between legal and illegal migration?
     
    They are all asylum seekers - the millions coming to Europe, including to Finland, and the 1,000 who came through Russia. Exactly the same legal status.

    it is open aggression. And the citizens of those states do not like it.
     
    From what I can gather most citizens of Germany, UK, Sweden, France also don't like it and consider it an open aggression tolerated or supported by their sell-out governments - remember the million Merkel refugees? How were they any different than the few stragglers crossing in through Russia?

    Russia accepted as equal when they have proven to be unable to introduce basic democratic and human rights norms?
     
    Which ones? Not keeping dissidents in jail like Assange? Not banning speech that is disrespectful to coloreds, or LGxyz gender freaks? Not bombing weaker countries like Nato did in Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya? Not doing a genocide on the natives like Israel is doing right now? Which ones?

    Let's say that is even true - so now you claim that people who don't live up to your subjective standards and norms are not equal? Isn't that what the colonials preached? And the Nazis? ...we are back full circle.


    what we care about is that there are no mosques on European soil. Or any kind of invaders.
     
    Ahhh...aren't there already about million mosques on the European soil? Didn't Nato go to war twice to create pure Islamic states in the Balkans (Kosovo, Bosnia)? Didn't US-UK support the Chechen separatism? And there are almost 75 million "invaders" in Europe - plus about 100 US bases. You are either incoherent or uninformed...

    Replies: @LatW

  443. @LatW
    @A123


    Perhaps those states should consider being better neighbors instead of creating regional conflict.
     
    You expect these states to close their eyes to a mass invasion with massive civilian casualties and major atrocities, even if these states can be the next targets? You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door? If someone organized a Bucha next door to you, you'd just ignore? Pretend like nothing happened?

    Replies: @A123

    You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door?

    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.

    Everyone should be concerned about Ukraine’s aggressive ideology.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @A123


    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.
     
    As Russian commenters put it:
    There will be presidential elections in Russia. There won’t be presidential elections in Ukraine.
    There will be parliament elections in Russia. There won’t be parliament elections in Ukraine.
    There will be local elections in Russia. There won’t be local elections in Ukraine.
    There is freedom of religion in Russia. There is none in Ukraine.
    There is freedom of speech in Russia. There is none in Ukraine.
    Ukraine is a democracy. Russia is a dictatorship. Take special care not to mix that up.
    , @AP
    @A123


    Russia has a functioning democracy
     
    Sort of. It is a more extreme form of American degradation.

    Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties
     
    He didn’t do it. It is in the constitution that there would be no elections during a war. How would they be run? Polling places in the battlefields would be easy targets, helping millions of refugees scattered abroad to vote would be logistically very difficult. Lots of those people would end up disenfranchised.

    Britain also cancelled elections during World War II and banned the pro-German British Union if Fascists. So it was not a democracy?

    took over media,
     
    Linked to Russia.

    and oppressed Orthodox churches

     

    Only those of the pro-Russian minority, linked to Moscow.

    During the American Revolution, the Americans took property from the Anglican Church and placed restrictions upon it. Was that also repressive, in your view? Did that mean the USA was a dictatorship?

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @QCIC
    @A123

    I agree with AP that these restrictions during war do not define the government of Ukraine, Russia or even the USA. During wartime, all countries restrict freedoms egregiously, though sometimes justifiably. The big problem is the full freedoms are never restored once the war is over so individual freedom is progressively eroded. This of course is a major incentive for politicians, bureaucrats, military types and deep staters to start wars to expand their powers.

    This does not mean I support the crooked government of Ukraine or the ridiculous puppet-actor president. I think Kiev has been at risk of major bombardment at any time since they launched direct attacks on the Kremlin (psyop) and Engels airbase (very dangerous precedent). Even with nothing else these two seemingly small events could be casus belli for major strikes on the Kiev government. Some Ukrainians are well aware of the dangerous game they are playing and will restrict any and all freedoms as long as they can.

    Replies: @A123

    , @John Johnson
    @A123

    Russia has a functioning democracy.

    How can you have a functioning democracy when you can get prison time for criticizing the president?

    Replies: @Beckow

  444. @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    How many days before mold shows up?
     
    Back when I still used to do it, from what I recall, several days, maybe sometimes a bit longer, maybe shorter? But we ate it quickly, in just a couple of days (and those were somewhat small loaves). Some loaves you can make in the machine, but you can also just prepare the dough, shape the loaves and bake them in the oven. You can make nice, simple French breads that way. I used to keep it in a paper bag, not in the fridge (because it would last us just a few days).

    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions. It looks like even I am not capable of screwing this up.
     
    I know, I hate dealing with "machines" and "equipment", but these are not that complicated. You can time them. Get American or German made. It's not that hard, although it can be a bit of time consuming, you wait for the bread to rise.

    You may need to practice a few times first. :)

    The most important thing is to be super precise with the ingredients (you should get measuring spoons - I don't remember if the spoons come with the machine or need to be bought separately, plus measuring cups, the machine will come with a very detailed recipe book for all kinds of breads). Then get quality bulk ingredients, flour (I used to get King Arthur, but there are choices), dry yeast, it's up to you if you want to use "the grandmother's" molasses, I typically skipped those because as a European, I'm not too used to them, but it's not a big deal either way).

    But this is different from, let's say, traditional Baltic rye bread baking - that's way more complex. You can order that in the States, too. With Baltic rye, mold will show up very quickly, so it is to be kept in the fridge or entirely frozen.

    And the bread making at home will save you some money over the long haul, maybe not much but some if you bake often. Blessed be.

    ---------
    On another topic: notice how the Indo-European word *Dyēus/Deus/Dievs and Devil have the same root...

    Replies: @Dmitry

    One of the main baking channels on Instagram/YouTube is Latvian, although it seems a bit more for professional chefs than amateur.

    I can’t cook too much. Last year I was thinking about making cakes and saw his recipes, was dizzy watching his recipes. You can understand why prices are high for any cakes which are not made by machines, although I guess even most bakeries nowadays use machines for that kind of cake.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Dmitry

    Thanks, this is a good channel. I think he's a chef or a professional baker. He does his own kneading, I used to do that, too, but it's time consuming. I guess he believes it's therapeutic. :) There should be a blog on rye bread baking, that is quite an endeavor and there are some really good Latvian rye bread bakers. He does have a video for rye bread - he did a good job, but traditionally you want to make large loaves and make them in a large, traditional oven.

    I can’t cook too much. Last year I was thinking about making cakes and saw his recipes, was dizzy watching his recipes
     

    Were you trying to make something sweet? :) It's funny how you still like Nutella. :)

    Well, cooking and baking are two different things. Cooking is a must, baking is optional. :)


    You can understand why prices are high for any cakes which are not made by machines, although I guess even most bakeries nowadays use machines for that kind of cake.
     
    This is more of an artisanal baker. It's good to be able to control everything that goes into your meals, when I have time, I bake piragi / piroshkis, just because I like it when they are freshly baked and still warm out of the oven. And you can control what's in the filling and how much. Upcoming holidays is a good time for that.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  445. @Beckow
    @AP


    The correct move is to incorporate Ukraine into Europe in order to keep Russia smaller...Ukrainian people want this too...Donbas or Crimea whose people do not want Europe.
     
    The same move that led Kiev to the dead-end...if your plan got you here and it's not working, maybe you should reconsider.

    Kiev and Europe claim that Crimea-Donbas are Ukraine and people living there are Ukrainians - you literally say two opposite things in the same sentence: "want Europe", "do not want..." - picture of mental chaos in your mind, and in Kiev.

    The Western help was always going to be half-ass - it is built into the situation and not going to change. Over time it will become more half-ass...So Ukies got nothing: suffering nation bleeding for unreachable goals and to avoid its sponsors losing face. How long can that go on? Until there is almost nothing left of Ukraine?

    Replies: @AP

    Kiev and Europe claim that Crimea-Donbas are Ukraine and people living there are Ukrainians – you literally say two opposite things in the same sentence: “want Europe”, “do not want…” – picture of mental chaos in your mind, and in Kiev

    Don’t lie as usual.

    I have been clear and consistent in pointing out that the pre-2022 line was a good border and that Crimea had a non-Ukrainian majority and the parts of Donbas controlled by Russia were heavily Russian (Donetsk city having more Russians than Ukrainians). The parts ruled by Kiev OTOH were Ukrainian.

    I am not “Kiev and Europe.” They can and did have a different view then mine.

    So Ukies got nothing

    They prevented annexation by Russia.

  446. @A123
    @LatW


    You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door?
     
    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.

    Everyone should be concerned about Ukraine's aggressive ideology.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.

    As Russian commenters put it:
    There will be presidential elections in Russia. There won’t be presidential elections in Ukraine.
    There will be parliament elections in Russia. There won’t be parliament elections in Ukraine.
    There will be local elections in Russia. There won’t be local elections in Ukraine.
    There is freedom of religion in Russia. There is none in Ukraine.
    There is freedom of speech in Russia. There is none in Ukraine.
    Ukraine is a democracy. Russia is a dictatorship. Take special care not to mix that up.

    • Agree: A123
  447. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    I need to buy one of those machine contraptions.
     
    You don’t need to. You can get in the US real bread, not that American styrofoam that even mold refuses to eat. I did not buy that crap in >20 years, consuming exclusively Italian, French, German, and Russian bread. Based on the “opinion” of mold, all of these breads are edible. Most kinds survive freeze-thaw cycle, remaining a lot better than what large American manufacturers call bread.

    Replies: @AP

    You are usually right when it comes to food. And you are correct here.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    You are usually right when it comes to food. And you are correct here.
     
    Very polite of you. Maybe it’s early childhood imprinting, but I very much like borscht with sour cream (real one, not American fake where agar is added to make it harder), vareniki (pronounced in Ukrainian vahranyky, with all vowels hard; for those unfamiliar with Eastern Slavic cuisine, these are large 4-6 cm dumplings that can be made with cottage cheese, potatoes with chopped fried onions, cabbage, various berries, etc., usually eaten with sour cream), pork, and salo (salted pork fat with skin attached). Then again, many Russians who did not grow up in Ukraine love these things.
  448. @Dmitry
    @LatW

    One of the main baking channels on Instagram/YouTube is Latvian, although it seems a bit more for professional chefs than amateur.

    I can't cook too much. Last year I was thinking about making cakes and saw his recipes, was dizzy watching his recipes. You can understand why prices are high for any cakes which are not made by machines, although I guess even most bakeries nowadays use machines for that kind of cake.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvtuWaidUFo

    Replies: @LatW

    Thanks, this is a good channel. I think he’s a chef or a professional baker. He does his own kneading, I used to do that, too, but it’s time consuming. I guess he believes it’s therapeutic. 🙂 There should be a blog on rye bread baking, that is quite an endeavor and there are some really good Latvian rye bread bakers. He does have a video for rye bread – he did a good job, but traditionally you want to make large loaves and make them in a large, traditional oven.

    I can’t cook too much. Last year I was thinking about making cakes and saw his recipes, was dizzy watching his recipes

    Were you trying to make something sweet? 🙂 It’s funny how you still like Nutella. 🙂

    Well, cooking and baking are two different things. Cooking is a must, baking is optional. 🙂

    You can understand why prices are high for any cakes which are not made by machines, although I guess even most bakeries nowadays use machines for that kind of cake.

    This is more of an artisanal baker. It’s good to be able to control everything that goes into your meals, when I have time, I bake piragi / piroshkis, just because I like it when they are freshly baked and still warm out of the oven. And you can control what’s in the filling and how much. Upcoming holidays is a good time for that.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @LatW


    . I think he’s a chef or a professional baker. He does his own kneading,

     

    Yes you could guess his job is baker, so he talks like the recipes are extremely easy, while for non-bakers it seems less simple.

    While a lot of the other YouTube cooking channels are amateurs. For example, in Russian YouTube, the baking channels are usually non-professionals, usually grandmothers.

    He says it only takes him 8 minutes to make this recipe from the beginning to cooking, but you know people who don't know about baking will probably waste a couple hours.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfTufloDhQ


    is more of an artisanal baker. It’s good to be able to control everything that goes into your meals, when I have time,
     
    In the good patisserie shops people often pay $10 for a small slice of cake, while in the supermarket it is $5 for the cake.

    But of course, it's a different product. One is a made by an experts' hands, another is made by a machine in a factory.

    Although even in countries like Italy and Spain nowadays, a lot of the bakery will use factory products. I was watching on YouTube some reports even about Spain, bakeries often import frozen bread in the morning and just heat it locally like a supermarket.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

  449. From AP’s post on the last thread I missed

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-236/#comment-6304177

    local realtors and lawyers would deal with all of that. I have seen some nice and affordable places on lakes Maggiore,

    Sure I would guess wealthy Americans have good lawyers in those kind of places so probably it’s not much problem.

    Also the increases in the value of the properties in those areas. Actor George Clooney bought a house there from the family of John Kerry for $10 million, now the value is over $100 million. https://www.housebeautiful.com/lifestyle/entertainment/a45302334/george-clooney-not-selling-lake-como-villa/

    university classmates who got a job with the federal government has already put in his years and retired, and is ready to return to his home town of Romania’s “Little Vienna”

    Especially after the internet, the world becomes far more globalizing and easy for people to live in different countries.

    On one hand, it could be seen as positive. On the other hand, it becomes less like real adventure and even many of the shops are becoming homogenized across countries.

    That’s actually one of the controversial positive things of 2022 for Russians, the abroad started to feel a little more separated again like ten years ago.

    $3000 per person in Moscow, if one already owned a flat, would be nice.

    Maybe in a warm natural country like Spain or Southern Italy, for the South West European lifestyle. I wouldn’t like to stay in Moscow with less than $10000 per month. Not because of expensive, but what is the psychological motivation to stay in a capital termite colony of millions of people sitting on top of each other which is already perceived by your unconscious as a bit of unnatural lifestyle, without at least some compensating motivation of being part of the upper middle class of the ant hill.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Dmitry


    $3000 per person in Moscow, if one already owned a flat, would be nice.

    Maybe in a warm natural country like Spain or Southern Italy, for the South West European lifestyle. I wouldn’t like to stay in Moscow with less than $10000 per month. Not because of expensive, but what is the psychological motivation to stay in a capital termite colony of millions of people sitting on top of each other
     

    It's a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transportation in the world (my wife just returned, now even the elektrichka to the town in a pine forest far outside the city where her dacha is, is brand new and runs every 10 minutes. Amazing!), and interesting friends and relatives. And depending on where one lives it does not have to feel like a termite colony. We often stay in my wife's family's flat in a Stalin building with very thick walls. It is silent inside, with the windows closed. Ceilings are very tall. There is a green courtyard in the back, where our windows face. Downtown buildings are old and to human scale, not like Manhattan. There are green boulevards. I never feel like in a termite colony there.

    local realtors and lawyers would deal with all of that. I have seen some nice and affordable places on lakes Maggiore,

    Sure I would guess wealthy Americans have good lawyers in those kind of places so probably it’s not much problem.
     

    I don't think it's a matter of wealth. At least in the USA, the process of buying property always involves a lawyer, who provides numerous documents to sign at closing. I imagine it would be the same in Italy, or Poland, or wherever. I am not wealthy as you seem to imply, just UMC.

    Also the increases in the value of the properties in those areas. Actor George Clooney bought a house there from the family of John Kerry for $10 million, now the value is over $100 million.
     
    I would not be able to afford Lake Como.

    You've reminded me - while on a road trip I randomly found myself in a town on Lake Como, and decided to eat not in the center but in an incredible restaurant, away from tourists, up the hill with beautiful views. Chatted with the owner for awhile, who happened to have once lived in the USA and to have a mutual connection, who told me Clooney and his wife were regular customers/friends. He wanted to introduce us, but we were there only for one day.

    Food was very good, of course. Very fresh lake fish.

    Here was the view:

    https://i.imgur.com/f6N6wQR.jpg

    And here was the fish:

    https://i.imgur.com/Enk4xHB.jpg

    Replies: @Dmitry

  450. @A123
    @LatW


    You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door?
     
    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.

    Everyone should be concerned about Ukraine's aggressive ideology.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Russia has a functioning democracy

    Sort of. It is a more extreme form of American degradation.

    Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties

    He didn’t do it. It is in the constitution that there would be no elections during a war. How would they be run? Polling places in the battlefields would be easy targets, helping millions of refugees scattered abroad to vote would be logistically very difficult. Lots of those people would end up disenfranchised.

    Britain also cancelled elections during World War II and banned the pro-German British Union if Fascists. So it was not a democracy?

    took over media,

    Linked to Russia.

    and oppressed Orthodox churches

    Only those of the pro-Russian minority, linked to Moscow.

    During the American Revolution, the Americans took property from the Anglican Church and placed restrictions upon it. Was that also repressive, in your view? Did that mean the USA was a dictatorship?

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    During the American Revolution, the Americans took property from the Anglican Church and placed restrictions upon it. Was that also repressive, in your view? Did that mean the USA was a dictatorship?

     

    1. Anglican church formed when Henry 8th wanted to divorce his wife and marry another woman ( who he then beheaded) . That makes the English or British King the head of the church. Completely different situation to the Russian Orthodox Church you retarded scumbag. Not to mention the history of the Russian Orthodox Church in the land of Banderastan compared to an infant America with the Anglican, the autonomy of the church in Ukraine, the total repression of Orthodoxy by Polish retards ( which was the critical factor in the ROC making the Tsar buy Kiev from the Poles 350 years before- LOL zero "Ukraine" or "Ukrainians" to buy Kiev off) before Russia saved them, none of the senior priests openly supporting the SMO....not to mention the sheer evil of raiding these monasteries and churches

    2. That was 250 years ago you autistic freak ( who has never been to Ukraine or Russia or Europe). Before the world became industrialised - which only further proves the pathetic level of stupidity in your post. Italy's role in WW2 did not make countries ban the Catholic Church you f**kup, or the British with Irish separatism, or DOCTOR Mugabe with the Anglican church after the British placed sanctions on the country. OR is Judaism banned in Iran. That perfectly sums up the ukroscum state of animals.

    During 1775 and 1776, the Continental Congress had issued decrees ordering churches to fast and pray on behalf of the Patriots.[9] Starting July 4, 1776, Congress and several states passed laws making prayers for the king and British Parliament acts of treason.
     
    Errr.....that perfectly proves my point you demented idiot.

    Britain also cancelled elections during World War II
     
    Britain formed a Unity government in WW2 you fantasist dogshit - making the "cancelled elections" an irrelevant point. A crucial fact in this one-sided annihilation of Banderastan starting is of course the fact that the drugaddict had Medvedchuk (among several others) arrested and charged before the SMO. This was after he had already played a big role in getting ukronazi terrorists caught in the Donbass from 2014-21, released back into 404.
    On the opposite situation, in 2014 the "unity" government being 90% composed of Galician failure freaks after the 2014 coup was also a huge factor, together with the satanic other actions, in the crimes against the people of Donbass starting and the reunification of Crimea.

    Linked to Russia
     
    As expected, a POS like you has ZERO idea what you are talking about. The product of a trillion hours stalking twitter, getting hemorrhoids, to write clueless copy and pasted nonsense. What ISNT linked to Russia in the entirely Russian created state of 404 would easier to ask you prick ( the flooding in Kiev metro being one of the few answers)

    Britain also cancelled elections during World War II and banned the pro-German British Union if Fascists.
     
    Errrr........presumably that Party of fascists. were not even 0.1% as popular in UKas those banned in Ukraine you ridiculous cretin. LMAO. Zero MP's versus 50 in Ukraine. No mayors in prominent cities, compared to several in Ukraine you POS.
  451. @A123
    @LatW


    You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door?
     
    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.

    Everyone should be concerned about Ukraine's aggressive ideology.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    I agree with AP that these restrictions during war do not define the government of Ukraine, Russia or even the USA. During wartime, all countries restrict freedoms egregiously, though sometimes justifiably. The big problem is the full freedoms are never restored once the war is over so individual freedom is progressively eroded. This of course is a major incentive for politicians, bureaucrats, military types and deep staters to start wars to expand their powers.

    This does not mean I support the crooked government of Ukraine or the ridiculous puppet-actor president. I think Kiev has been at risk of major bombardment at any time since they launched direct attacks on the Kremlin (psyop) and Engels airbase (very dangerous precedent). Even with nothing else these two seemingly small events could be casus belli for major strikes on the Kiev government. Some Ukrainians are well aware of the dangerous game they are playing and will restrict any and all freedoms as long as they can.

    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC

    AP's increasingly tortured false analogies are more proof of desperation on his part. Comparing the American Revolution to Kiev aggression is absurd.

    George Washington did not evict monks from their homes and toss them in the gutter. However, that is exactly what Zelensky has done.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

  452. @LatW
    @Dmitry

    Thanks, this is a good channel. I think he's a chef or a professional baker. He does his own kneading, I used to do that, too, but it's time consuming. I guess he believes it's therapeutic. :) There should be a blog on rye bread baking, that is quite an endeavor and there are some really good Latvian rye bread bakers. He does have a video for rye bread - he did a good job, but traditionally you want to make large loaves and make them in a large, traditional oven.

    I can’t cook too much. Last year I was thinking about making cakes and saw his recipes, was dizzy watching his recipes
     

    Were you trying to make something sweet? :) It's funny how you still like Nutella. :)

    Well, cooking and baking are two different things. Cooking is a must, baking is optional. :)


    You can understand why prices are high for any cakes which are not made by machines, although I guess even most bakeries nowadays use machines for that kind of cake.
     
    This is more of an artisanal baker. It's good to be able to control everything that goes into your meals, when I have time, I bake piragi / piroshkis, just because I like it when they are freshly baked and still warm out of the oven. And you can control what's in the filling and how much. Upcoming holidays is a good time for that.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    . I think he’s a chef or a professional baker. He does his own kneading,

    Yes you could guess his job is baker, so he talks like the recipes are extremely easy, while for non-bakers it seems less simple.

    While a lot of the other YouTube cooking channels are amateurs. For example, in Russian YouTube, the baking channels are usually non-professionals, usually grandmothers.

    He says it only takes him 8 minutes to make this recipe from the beginning to cooking, but you know people who don’t know about baking will probably waste a couple hours.

    is more of an artisanal baker. It’s good to be able to control everything that goes into your meals, when I have time,

    In the good patisserie shops people often pay $10 for a small slice of cake, while in the supermarket it is $5 for the cake.

    But of course, it’s a different product. One is a made by an experts’ hands, another is made by a machine in a factory.

    Although even in countries like Italy and Spain nowadays, a lot of the bakery will use factory products. I was watching on YouTube some reports even about Spain, bakeries often import frozen bread in the morning and just heat it locally like a supermarket.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Dmitry


    He says it only takes him 8 minutes to make this recipe from the beginning to cooking
     
    The recipe itself is super easy, it's a very common home recipe. It's just that the prep is time consuming. Crimping the dumplings can be a bit tricky for guys because they have bigger fingers. I prefer them when they are not completely brown, but still a bit yellow on the sides. Lol, "fat dumplings" is not the best translation, it sounds a bit awkward and hardly appetizing, those are "pastries with bacon bits".

    He says he can demolish 15 of these...hahahah! Look, maybe he can, but not when you're a woman who tries to stay in shape. Unless she's going to out and do physical work.

    Dmitry, you have been too alienated from Eastern Euro culture if you believe this is a complicated recipe. :) Time to get back to your roots. :)


    But of course, it’s a different product. One is a made by an experts’ hands, another is made by a machine in a factory.

     

    Everyone likes individual touch (and better ingredients), and a lovely presentation or atmosphere, but these types of pastries are also mass produced. They're ok, but they are better when still soft and warm. Maybe they can experiment with the filling a little more, but then it wouldn't be the traditional recipe anymore.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @LatW
    @Dmitry

    Ok, he actually did make a traditional rye bread video. It's good with some salmon, some cream cheese with radish or cucumber slices or even with honey and milk.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na7WjopyoTY&list=PLJ97q0PY0sXLZwLYWU0idJbqzA4kdrOg8&index=18

  453. @Dmitry
    @LatW


    . I think he’s a chef or a professional baker. He does his own kneading,

     

    Yes you could guess his job is baker, so he talks like the recipes are extremely easy, while for non-bakers it seems less simple.

    While a lot of the other YouTube cooking channels are amateurs. For example, in Russian YouTube, the baking channels are usually non-professionals, usually grandmothers.

    He says it only takes him 8 minutes to make this recipe from the beginning to cooking, but you know people who don't know about baking will probably waste a couple hours.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfTufloDhQ


    is more of an artisanal baker. It’s good to be able to control everything that goes into your meals, when I have time,
     
    In the good patisserie shops people often pay $10 for a small slice of cake, while in the supermarket it is $5 for the cake.

    But of course, it's a different product. One is a made by an experts' hands, another is made by a machine in a factory.

    Although even in countries like Italy and Spain nowadays, a lot of the bakery will use factory products. I was watching on YouTube some reports even about Spain, bakeries often import frozen bread in the morning and just heat it locally like a supermarket.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    He says it only takes him 8 minutes to make this recipe from the beginning to cooking

    The recipe itself is super easy, it’s a very common home recipe. It’s just that the prep is time consuming. Crimping the dumplings can be a bit tricky for guys because they have bigger fingers. I prefer them when they are not completely brown, but still a bit yellow on the sides. Lol, “fat dumplings” is not the best translation, it sounds a bit awkward and hardly appetizing, those are “pastries with bacon bits”.

    He says he can demolish 15 of these…hahahah! Look, maybe he can, but not when you’re a woman who tries to stay in shape. Unless she’s going to out and do physical work.

    Dmitry, you have been too alienated from Eastern Euro culture if you believe this is a complicated recipe. 🙂 Time to get back to your roots. 🙂

    But of course, it’s a different product. One is a made by an experts’ hands, another is made by a machine in a factory.

    Everyone likes individual touch (and better ingredients), and a lovely presentation or atmosphere, but these types of pastries are also mass produced. They’re ok, but they are better when still soft and warm. Maybe they can experiment with the filling a little more, but then it wouldn’t be the traditional recipe anymore.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @LatW


    you have been too alienated from Eastern Euro culture if you believe this is a complicated recipe. 🙂 Time to get back to your roots.

     

    You mean finding the plastic bag of frozen dumpling in the freezer, put it in the pan of hot water, impatiently remove before defrosting and eat the wet salty half-cold half-hot factory mix of chemicals on your plate? Because, at least in terms of my origins, that's my cooking roots.

    recipe itself is super easy, it’s a very common home recipe. It’s just that the prep is time consuming. Crimping the dumplings can be a bit tricky for guys because they have bigger fingers
     
    I don't think any of his recipes would be easy or you could follow with some high levels of experiences and skill.

    The baked dumplings look soft, shiny, like they are designed to be photographed for a cooking book. It would feel like a crime to eat those works of art and professionalism. I'd guess he works in artisan patisserie.

    These are probably a kind of donuts which he sells for $10 each one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbhiBnr804

    Replies: @LatW

  454. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    You are usually right when it comes to food. And you are correct here.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    You are usually right when it comes to food. And you are correct here.

    Very polite of you. Maybe it’s early childhood imprinting, but I very much like borscht with sour cream (real one, not American fake where agar is added to make it harder), vareniki (pronounced in Ukrainian vahranyky, with all vowels hard; for those unfamiliar with Eastern Slavic cuisine, these are large 4-6 cm dumplings that can be made with cottage cheese, potatoes with chopped fried onions, cabbage, various berries, etc., usually eaten with sour cream), pork, and salo (salted pork fat with skin attached). Then again, many Russians who did not grow up in Ukraine love these things.

  455. @LatW
    @Beckow


    why are Americans so visibly inflamed?
     
    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not "visibly inflamed". Some might be - maybe it's too much beer? Or MSG?

    But many (80%?) don’t have the money for higher quality food.
     
    No, not 80%. One can get high quality food even if they're not UMC.

    Even for the poor, it's possible to get quality food cheaply in the US, but it will require extra effort (time). A lot of vegetables are still cheap (interestingly, some ethnic food, such as Mexican, because it is eaten by Mexicans, is cheaper - once Whites start buying it, it could get more expensive, such as tomatillos).

    There are options to buy in bulk and freeze food (including things such as grass fed beef or wild fish). There are services such as Misfits Market and Imperfect Foods that will send you cheap food that just happens to not look perfect but is nutritionally the same (or these could be rescued items from last minute cancellations).

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don't need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food - if you have multiple children, your allotted amount could be up to a thousand dollars per month). The military wives get to shop at the commissaries. If one is really poor, there are food banks.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @AP, @John Johnson

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer?

    It really does depend on the location. Whites in Hawaii and Colorado are known to be in shape. Obesity levels in the South are insane.

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape.

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don’t need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children

    EBT now works at farmer’s markets and they get 2-1 on the prices.

    Lettuce can be grown just about anywhere. They even have a variety for subzero areas.

    In Texas it is the norm to grow tomatoes on the porch. They like those upside down tomato hangers.

    Just not buying the excuse of not having access.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    In the US there have now been several generations where home cooking is less and less common, so many people grew up with minimal contact with real food and cooking. On the other hand, concern over nutrition and also a growing fondness for good cooking (driven by cooking shows, etc.) has partially fought the trend toward more "industrial" food.

    Crop development is an important process with some quirks. An interesting example is a vegetable which has been hybridized to give improved shelf life and store appeal over taste and nutrition. The next wave were plants which were genetically modified to make them more compatible with Roundup (glyphosate) so the plants could tolerate high doses. These are examples where the basic trend of improvement seems to have lost its way and sacrificed the most important thing (health) to something less important (profit). Like many other areas of life there are complex tradeoffs.

    , @LatW
    @John Johnson


    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape.
     
    I know. And even when living on the ocean, it varies a bit. It really comes down to people's character, attitudes, ambition, comfort levels (many are perfectly comfortable with their weight or in many cases competitive folks are thinner) but the fact is that there is also a ton of readily available comfort food. :)

    In Europe, they take care of you collectively by controlling the industries more (not as much corn syrup), in the US, the individual has to micromanage everything on their own.

    Just not buying the excuse of not having access.
     

    Totally not, that's complete nonsense. There is probably more good food in the US, actually, in many places, considering how intensive the economy is and how food can be grown, as you said, in private.

    If there are issues with good food, it might be mostly due to the fact that something has happened to the mother (she hasn't been supported enough, too stressed or too overworked so relying on food she can prepare quickly or fentanyl). Sometimes people just need to be helped, especially children.

    , @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape
     
    Nonsense. Most of us who have been to America have visited California, New York and of course Florida(well populated states with coasts)..........and the over prevalence of fat-f**ks in America compared to the rest of the world seems to be the 100% consensus. No point in talking about those Americans in good condition you idiot. I would say no exaggeration to say about 40-50% of these people I am seeing in America are very overweight.


    Its not in dispute that Americans, because alot of them are sick, pitiful idiots ......eat bigger portions, tasteless portions of filth, manufactured food, than the rest of the other countries in the world. I have never seen anything like it. At least if it was decent food.....but even then these portions are obscene.

    And LOL......look at how popular Beef jerky is in America. You could put a gun to my head telling me to eat beef jerky and I would still refuse to eat it - you would have to put a gun to the head of most Americans to STOP them from eating it. Obscene.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

  456. @Dmitry
    @LatW


    . I think he’s a chef or a professional baker. He does his own kneading,

     

    Yes you could guess his job is baker, so he talks like the recipes are extremely easy, while for non-bakers it seems less simple.

    While a lot of the other YouTube cooking channels are amateurs. For example, in Russian YouTube, the baking channels are usually non-professionals, usually grandmothers.

    He says it only takes him 8 minutes to make this recipe from the beginning to cooking, but you know people who don't know about baking will probably waste a couple hours.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TfTufloDhQ


    is more of an artisanal baker. It’s good to be able to control everything that goes into your meals, when I have time,
     
    In the good patisserie shops people often pay $10 for a small slice of cake, while in the supermarket it is $5 for the cake.

    But of course, it's a different product. One is a made by an experts' hands, another is made by a machine in a factory.

    Although even in countries like Italy and Spain nowadays, a lot of the bakery will use factory products. I was watching on YouTube some reports even about Spain, bakeries often import frozen bread in the morning and just heat it locally like a supermarket.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    Ok, he actually did make a traditional rye bread video. It’s good with some salmon, some cream cheese with radish or cucumber slices or even with honey and milk.

  457. @A123
    @LatW


    You expect states that have high democratic standards to just close their eyes and not worry about aggressive ideologies next door?
     
    Russia has a functioning democracy. Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, took over media, and oppressed Orthodox churches.

    Everyone should be concerned about Ukraine's aggressive ideology.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP, @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Russia has a functioning democracy.

    How can you have a functioning democracy when you can get prison time for criticizing the president?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...a functioning democracy when you can get prison time for criticizing the president?
     
    Can you give us one example? Be specific, someone who is in prison for nothing else but criticizing the president...

    There is an Australian guy in UK prison, Assange, for releasing embarrassing information about US politicians, do you mean something like that? Assange has been in prison almost 10 years...is UK than a "functioning democracy"? Or Anglos can and Russians can't...let's get the rules straight.

    Replies: @LatW

  458. @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer?

    It really does depend on the location. Whites in Hawaii and Colorado are known to be in shape. Obesity levels in the South are insane.

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape.

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don’t need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children

    EBT now works at farmer's markets and they get 2-1 on the prices.

    Lettuce can be grown just about anywhere. They even have a variety for subzero areas.

    In Texas it is the norm to grow tomatoes on the porch. They like those upside down tomato hangers.

    Just not buying the excuse of not having access.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Gerard1234

    In the US there have now been several generations where home cooking is less and less common, so many people grew up with minimal contact with real food and cooking. On the other hand, concern over nutrition and also a growing fondness for good cooking (driven by cooking shows, etc.) has partially fought the trend toward more “industrial” food.

    Crop development is an important process with some quirks. An interesting example is a vegetable which has been hybridized to give improved shelf life and store appeal over taste and nutrition. The next wave were plants which were genetically modified to make them more compatible with Roundup (glyphosate) so the plants could tolerate high doses. These are examples where the basic trend of improvement seems to have lost its way and sacrificed the most important thing (health) to something less important (profit). Like many other areas of life there are complex tradeoffs.

  459. @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer?

    It really does depend on the location. Whites in Hawaii and Colorado are known to be in shape. Obesity levels in the South are insane.

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape.

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don’t need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children

    EBT now works at farmer's markets and they get 2-1 on the prices.

    Lettuce can be grown just about anywhere. They even have a variety for subzero areas.

    In Texas it is the norm to grow tomatoes on the porch. They like those upside down tomato hangers.

    Just not buying the excuse of not having access.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Gerard1234

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape.

    I know. And even when living on the ocean, it varies a bit. It really comes down to people’s character, attitudes, ambition, comfort levels (many are perfectly comfortable with their weight or in many cases competitive folks are thinner) but the fact is that there is also a ton of readily available comfort food. 🙂

    In Europe, they take care of you collectively by controlling the industries more (not as much corn syrup), in the US, the individual has to micromanage everything on their own.

    Just not buying the excuse of not having access.

    Totally not, that’s complete nonsense. There is probably more good food in the US, actually, in many places, considering how intensive the economy is and how food can be grown, as you said, in private.

    If there are issues with good food, it might be mostly due to the fact that something has happened to the mother (she hasn’t been supported enough, too stressed or too overworked so relying on food she can prepare quickly or fentanyl). Sometimes people just need to be helped, especially children.

  460. @QCIC
    @A123

    I agree with AP that these restrictions during war do not define the government of Ukraine, Russia or even the USA. During wartime, all countries restrict freedoms egregiously, though sometimes justifiably. The big problem is the full freedoms are never restored once the war is over so individual freedom is progressively eroded. This of course is a major incentive for politicians, bureaucrats, military types and deep staters to start wars to expand their powers.

    This does not mean I support the crooked government of Ukraine or the ridiculous puppet-actor president. I think Kiev has been at risk of major bombardment at any time since they launched direct attacks on the Kremlin (psyop) and Engels airbase (very dangerous precedent). Even with nothing else these two seemingly small events could be casus belli for major strikes on the Kiev government. Some Ukrainians are well aware of the dangerous game they are playing and will restrict any and all freedoms as long as they can.

    Replies: @A123

    AP’s increasingly tortured false analogies are more proof of desperation on his part. Comparing the American Revolution to Kiev aggression is absurd.

    George Washington did not evict monks from their homes and toss them in the gutter. However, that is exactly what Zelensky has done.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AP
    @A123


    George Washington did not evict monks from their homes and toss them in the gutter.
     
    The Americans did burn down churches and beat clergy though.

    https://trinitywallstreet.org/stories-news/1776-trinity-church-and-american-revolution

    But in the summer of 1776, as British and American forces fought for control of New York and citizens fled, the clergy of Trinity Church remained loyal to the British crown—and to their duty as parish priests. By autumn of that year, the church building, stripped of royal insignia and bells and burned to the ground, was another casualty of the Revolutionary War.

    The Clergy were everywhere threatened…sometimes treated with brutal violence.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Episcopal_Church_(United_States)#American_Revolution_(1775%E2%80%931783)

    During 1775 and 1776, the Continental Congress had issued decrees ordering churches to fast and pray on behalf of the Patriots.[9] Starting July 4, 1776, Congress and several states passed laws making prayers for the king and British Parliament acts of treason.

    By the end of the Revolution, the Anglican Church was disestablished in all states where it had previously been a privileged religion...The Baptists took the lead in disestablishment, with support from Thomas Jefferson and, especially, James Madison. Virginia was the only state to seize property belonging to the established Episcopal Church.

    In Virginia, out of 107 parishes before the war only 42 survived.[9] In Georgia, Christ Church, Savannah was the only active parish in 1790.[9] In Maryland, half of the parishes remained vacant by 1800.[9] For a period after 1816, North Carolina had no clergy when its last priest died

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  461. Is the tweet below from the AaronGross who posts here as HeavilyMarbledSteak (or something similar) or I’m a mixing up my Jews?

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    • Replies: @ShortOnTime
    @Matra

    Fwiw, what matters more than the quality or quantity of atrocities is that Jihadists and Islamists have a better record of success than Nazis. Compare the unique one-off of 1933-1945 in Germany and Europe (nothing seems to have really come of 21st century attempts to revive Nazism, Jews and Russians are simply too deeply opposed to it, the latter for understandable reasons) against Muhammed and his first Jihad's from the 7th century AD and all the Islamic Caliphates, Empires and Jihadist movements that have achieved more since then. What's interesting too is that the Nazis were actually pro-Islam as the Hajj Amin al-Husseini and Bosnian Muslim connection shows.

    Some stream of thought from some of the footage of the October 7th attack was the "cringing submission" aspect of Islam when the Hamas fighters wielded the AKs by swinging them back and forth in movement as if they were curved swords straight out of the very first Jihad's of Islam. The trigger discipline of one shot one burst was a bit of a surprise to see. In previous mid-east conflicts it looked like the guns are just fired stupidly all over the place and whole ammo chargers are wasted. There was blood on the floor of some of the Jewish homes, so at least something happened there definitely. The kidnapping of the hostages has the ring of a nomadic and tribal raid to it, but also as a smart move to buy time and leverage in hostage swaps and things like that.

    Given how much of an October 7th psychosis there is in the mainstream (like it's the next 9/11), there's no need to discuss it more anyway, especially since the Palestinians are already paying a very severe price for it and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

    , @silviosilver
    @Matra


    Is the tweet below from the AaronGross who posts here as HeavilyMarbledSteak (or something similar) or I’m a mixing up my Jews?
     
    No, that's a different Aaron. I think it's the same guy I've seen posting as "Aaron in Israel" or something like that. Aaron Gross is your typical "anti-racist" bullshit artist.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

  462. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikel

    I used to help my mother out with her vegetable garden when she was still alive and I lived in Minnesota. The ground had to be worked on because it had a good amount of stones of various kinds, a lot of limestone because we lived within a couple of miles from the Mississippi. I even had my own garden by my house too, so I know a little bit about gardening. We were fortunate, and never really had any problems with blight or other sorts of pests. I do remember that when I was quite young that vegetables like cabbage were sprayed, but I never did that on my own cabbage and everything turned out okay. I even planted potatoes for a few years, even though I didn't really need to for they were relatively inexpensive to buy in the stores. I didn't have a lot of land to devote to the potatoes though, and ended up getting some old rubber car tires and stacked them three tires deep and filled them with soil, about 9 such "contraptions". When the first frost was about to appear, I would gather them all up and stored them in my garage on cardboard and covered them up with an old wool blanket. Potatoes were delicious and enough lasted until the next spring season to plant the new crop. Weeding kind of soured me to the whole proposition after a certain point in time. :-(

    Replies: @songbird, @Mikel

    Weeding kind of soured me to the whole proposition after a certain point in time.

    I know, I know. Who enjoys weeding? Fortunately, in these arid parts drip irrigation solves a good part of the problem. Without water only the most insidious weeds can grow in the dry summer heat. But some grow anyhow and it’s a tough competition between them on the one hand and you and your crops on the other. An acre suddenly becomes an immensity. A farmer’s life is not supposed to be easy but it does provide plenty of exercise and my rabbits convert weeds into meat with amazing enthusiasm.

    I am also curious as to how you managed to prevent those potatoes from freezing solid in an unconditioned Minnesota garage. Here temps don’t drop to the Northern Midwest levels but the only way to store them fresh for several months is in a root cellar or by burying them in the ground inside an insulted container. Some people bury old freezers with the door looking upwards for easy access. This old ranch had a root cellar in the backyard but it was quite creepy so I decided to demolish it. I dug a trench under a big carport and store my potatoes inside it, sorted by size and condition inside second-hand coolers that I bought at a charity shop. The trench is insulated on all sides and covered on top by a wooden hatch door.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Mikel


    I am also curious as to how you managed to prevent those potatoes from freezing solid in an unconditioned Minnesota garage
     
    I really don't know how I managed to do this, but it happened. songbird also asked me about this...
    As I related to him, I had placed all of the potatoes on cardboard and then covered everything up with an old thick wool blanket. Now that I think it over, perhap I also included some large plastic bags underneath and on top too. It's been a long time (30 years?) when this occurred. I don't know whether plastic would have helped much? I was too inexperienced to know much about the right temperatures for storing potatoes...I probably just got lucky as hell! :-)

    I repeated this exercise for at least one more year, and my home grown potatoes still managed to grace my table along with my pot roasts quite handily. :-)
  463. @John Johnson
    @LatW

    Other than being heavier than Euros (on average and depends on location / income bracket), most Americans are not “visibly inflamed”. Some might be – maybe it’s too much beer?

    It really does depend on the location. Whites in Hawaii and Colorado are known to be in shape. Obesity levels in the South are insane.

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape.

    One can get very high quality produce at the farmers markets. Those might be a bit more expensive, but you are getting quality and you don’t need to buy too much (unless you have multiple children).

    Most poor Americans (and even some lower middle class) have the so called EBT (free cash to buy food – if you have multiple children

    EBT now works at farmer's markets and they get 2-1 on the prices.

    Lettuce can be grown just about anywhere. They even have a variety for subzero areas.

    In Texas it is the norm to grow tomatoes on the porch. They like those upside down tomato hangers.

    Just not buying the excuse of not having access.

    Replies: @QCIC, @LatW, @Gerard1234

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape

    Nonsense. Most of us who have been to America have visited California, New York and of course Florida(well populated states with coasts)……….and the over prevalence of fat-f**ks in America compared to the rest of the world seems to be the 100% consensus. No point in talking about those Americans in good condition you idiot. I would say no exaggeration to say about 40-50% of these people I am seeing in America are very overweight.

    Its not in dispute that Americans, because alot of them are sick, pitiful idiots ……eat bigger portions, tasteless portions of filth, manufactured food, than the rest of the other countries in the world. I have never seen anything like it. At least if it was decent food…..but even then these portions are obscene.

    And LOL……look at how popular Beef jerky is in America. You could put a gun to my head telling me to eat beef jerky and I would still refuse to eat it – you would have to put a gun to the head of most Americans to STOP them from eating it. Obscene.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Gerard1234

    Reminds me of a line from a bad movie which I do not recommend, starting at 0:39.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TQKVmQctSo
    The '440 head shake' at 1:20 is a classic for American muscle car fans :)

    , @John Johnson
    @Gerard1234


    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape
     
    Nonsense. Most of us who have been to America have visited California, New York and of course Florida(well populated states with coasts)……….and the over prevalence of fat-f**ks in America compared to the rest of the world seems to be the 100% consensus.

    Venice Beach boardwalk and the White burbs of the Confederacy look like different worlds.

    The data backs such observations as seen by this obesity map:
    https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/images/data/brfss_2015_obesity-600px.jpg

    Americans in general need to lose some weight but the regional differences can be shocking. There are areas in the South where a moderately in-shape woman looks like a model by comparison. Too many Whites in the South stay inside when it is hot and then take part in sedentary activities. It's important to have a pool not just to cool off but for exercise.

    And LOL……look at how popular Beef jerky is in America. You could put a gun to my head telling me to eat beef jerky and I would still refuse to eat it – you would have to put a gun to the head of most Americans to STOP them from eating it.

    Beef jerky not in the top 25 favorite snacks of Americans
    https://jackedgorilla.com/most-popular-snacks-america/

    The reason you see it a lot in warmer is states is the shelf life.

    Europeans don't realize how quickly everything melts or goes bad in the heat.

    Beef jerky is used by workers as a quick lunch. It's very high protein and can take a beating.

    I'm not saying it is the healthiest choice but it isn't a craving snack for most Americans. Chips and candy are far more popular. So are Nabisco crackers which I really don't get. I also don't get the love for the classic Hershey's bar. Great for Smores but I don't get the appeal when compared to the competition.

  464. @A123
    @QCIC

    AP's increasingly tortured false analogies are more proof of desperation on his part. Comparing the American Revolution to Kiev aggression is absurd.

    George Washington did not evict monks from their homes and toss them in the gutter. However, that is exactly what Zelensky has done.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @AP

    George Washington did not evict monks from their homes and toss them in the gutter.

    The Americans did burn down churches and beat clergy though.

    https://trinitywallstreet.org/stories-news/1776-trinity-church-and-american-revolution

    But in the summer of 1776, as British and American forces fought for control of New York and citizens fled, the clergy of Trinity Church remained loyal to the British crown—and to their duty as parish priests. By autumn of that year, the church building, stripped of royal insignia and bells and burned to the ground, was another casualty of the Revolutionary War.

    The Clergy were everywhere threatened…sometimes treated with brutal violence.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Episcopal_Church_(United_States)#American_Revolution_(1775%E2%80%931783)

    During 1775 and 1776, the Continental Congress had issued decrees ordering churches to fast and pray on behalf of the Patriots.[9] Starting July 4, 1776, Congress and several states passed laws making prayers for the king and British Parliament acts of treason.

    By the end of the Revolution, the Anglican Church was disestablished in all states where it had previously been a privileged religion…The Baptists took the lead in disestablishment, with support from Thomas Jefferson and, especially, James Madison. Virginia was the only state to seize property belonging to the established Episcopal Church.

    In Virginia, out of 107 parishes before the war only 42 survived.[9] In Georgia, Christ Church, Savannah was the only active parish in 1790.[9] In Maryland, half of the parishes remained vacant by 1800.[9] For a period after 1816, North Carolina had no clergy when its last priest died

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    The "desperate" Beckow and his penchant to avoid the truth (part of the lying lifestyle) seems to have disappeared again after you've disclosed the basis for your "tortured false analogies". He's probably on the phone somewhere warning the evicted monks to stay away from politics, especially 5th column ones during a bloody war. And to stay away from Slovakia as well. :-)

  465. @Europe Europa
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I don't understand why right wing people in Britain always feel the need to shill for the Soviet Union and Russia. Despite mass immigration into Britain, Putin is not your friend. Putin is using third world invaders as a weapon, flying them in and sending them over the borders into Finland and Poland.

    Putin has no interest in helping you fight for a white Britain or repatriation of third worlders, a weakened, multi-racial, rudderless Britain/Western world with no cohesive identity is in Russia and China's interests and they make that quite clear as far as I can see.

    Also, you criticise people for being against the Soviet/Russian occupation of their countries, yet I doubt you begrudge Irish nationalists for being against British control in Ireland. I don't see the difference really. Why is Britain attacked for doing the same things that many seem to want to give a free pass to Russia for? This is another thing I don't understand.

    The one up side about Russia's behaviour, past and present, is that it creates a strong counter-argument to attacks on British history. Usually the sort of people who attack British history won't hear a bad word about Russia and usually shut up pretty quickly if you retort with quoting ugly episodes in Russian history, of which there are many.

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

    I don’t understand why right wing people in Britain always feel the need to shill for the Soviet Union and Russia. Despite mass immigration into Britain, Putin is not your friend.

    I agree. You had a similar thing going on in Europe after the 2016 election of Trump and people in Europe thinking Trump was going to rescue them.

    When someone is drowning they will latch onto anything.

    • Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @S

    Women aren’t allowed to become sushi chefs in Japan because their hands are too warm to handle the ingredients.

    Replies: @S

  466. @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape
     
    Nonsense. Most of us who have been to America have visited California, New York and of course Florida(well populated states with coasts)..........and the over prevalence of fat-f**ks in America compared to the rest of the world seems to be the 100% consensus. No point in talking about those Americans in good condition you idiot. I would say no exaggeration to say about 40-50% of these people I am seeing in America are very overweight.


    Its not in dispute that Americans, because alot of them are sick, pitiful idiots ......eat bigger portions, tasteless portions of filth, manufactured food, than the rest of the other countries in the world. I have never seen anything like it. At least if it was decent food.....but even then these portions are obscene.

    And LOL......look at how popular Beef jerky is in America. You could put a gun to my head telling me to eat beef jerky and I would still refuse to eat it - you would have to put a gun to the head of most Americans to STOP them from eating it. Obscene.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Reminds me of a line from a bad movie which I do not recommend, starting at 0:39.

    [MORE]

    The ‘440 head shake’ at 1:20 is a classic for American muscle car fans 🙂

  467. @Dmitry
    From AP's post on the last thread I missed

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-236/#comment-6304177


    local realtors and lawyers would deal with all of that. I have seen some nice and affordable places on lakes Maggiore,
     
    Sure I would guess wealthy Americans have good lawyers in those kind of places so probably it's not much problem.

    Also the increases in the value of the properties in those areas. Actor George Clooney bought a house there from the family of John Kerry for $10 million, now the value is over $100 million. https://www.housebeautiful.com/lifestyle/entertainment/a45302334/george-clooney-not-selling-lake-como-villa/


    university classmates who got a job with the federal government has already put in his years and retired, and is ready to return to his home town of Romania’s “Little Vienna”

     

    Especially after the internet, the world becomes far more globalizing and easy for people to live in different countries.

    On one hand, it could be seen as positive. On the other hand, it becomes less like real adventure and even many of the shops are becoming homogenized across countries.

    That's actually one of the controversial positive things of 2022 for Russians, the abroad started to feel a little more separated again like ten years ago.


    $3000 per person in Moscow, if one already owned a flat, would be nice.
     
    Maybe in a warm natural country like Spain or Southern Italy, for the South West European lifestyle. I wouldn't like to stay in Moscow with less than $10000 per month. Not because of expensive, but what is the psychological motivation to stay in a capital termite colony of millions of people sitting on top of each other which is already perceived by your unconscious as a bit of unnatural lifestyle, without at least some compensating motivation of being part of the upper middle class of the ant hill.

    Replies: @AP

    $3000 per person in Moscow, if one already owned a flat, would be nice.

    Maybe in a warm natural country like Spain or Southern Italy, for the South West European lifestyle. I wouldn’t like to stay in Moscow with less than $10000 per month. Not because of expensive, but what is the psychological motivation to stay in a capital termite colony of millions of people sitting on top of each other

    It’s a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transportation in the world (my wife just returned, now even the elektrichka to the town in a pine forest far outside the city where her dacha is, is brand new and runs every 10 minutes. Amazing!), and interesting friends and relatives. And depending on where one lives it does not have to feel like a termite colony. We often stay in my wife’s family’s flat in a Stalin building with very thick walls. It is silent inside, with the windows closed. Ceilings are very tall. There is a green courtyard in the back, where our windows face. Downtown buildings are old and to human scale, not like Manhattan. There are green boulevards. I never feel like in a termite colony there.

    local realtors and lawyers would deal with all of that. I have seen some nice and affordable places on lakes Maggiore,

    Sure I would guess wealthy Americans have good lawyers in those kind of places so probably it’s not much problem.

    I don’t think it’s a matter of wealth. At least in the USA, the process of buying property always involves a lawyer, who provides numerous documents to sign at closing. I imagine it would be the same in Italy, or Poland, or wherever. I am not wealthy as you seem to imply, just UMC.

    Also the increases in the value of the properties in those areas. Actor George Clooney bought a house there from the family of John Kerry for $10 million, now the value is over $100 million.

    I would not be able to afford Lake Como.

    You’ve reminded me – while on a road trip I randomly found myself in a town on Lake Como, and decided to eat not in the center but in an incredible restaurant, away from tourists, up the hill with beautiful views. Chatted with the owner for awhile, who happened to have once lived in the USA and to have a mutual connection, who told me Clooney and his wife were regular customers/friends. He wanted to introduce us, but we were there only for one day.

    Food was very good, of course. Very fresh lake fish.

    Here was the view:

    And here was the fish:

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    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @AP


    It’s a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transport
     
    Which is the world's best metro system. Building the world's most complicated system of tunnels under soil is not what I would call the most non-ant, non-termite behavior,

    The utopian life for the tree monkey from the tropical forests. 10 million souls (more than world's human population when modern agriculture begins), going in underground tunnels, monumentalist buildings representing political power and royal wealth of the Queen of the hive which is unaccessible for 99,9%, but controls many parts of the life of 100% although with different extents depending on their role in the hive.

    Some aspects of Moscow are like the most accurate emulations of the hive colony. Queen of the ant lives in the center of hive and controls the ants in the outer parts of the hive using pheromone signals, in this example humans are using communication encoded in the electromagnetic radiation to emulate the ants' signaling. At the end of the year this Queen even sits in the center of the hive and gives signals for four hours, which is reproduced visually and transmitted electromagnetically to the tens of millions of the hive.

    If you want the more simple answer. I think it's one of the more high reward places for doing culture tourism, especially in the summer. For living? Only if I was at least upper middle class and had tall ceilings.


    in my wife’s family’s flat in a Stalin building with very thick walls. It is silent inside, with the windows closed. Ceilings are very tall
     
    I agree the tall ceilings and the quiet neighbors are important to reduce alienation.

    Except when I was too young to be caring, I was growing up in one of the more "elite" projects and this has a kind of curse as it probably reduced my tolerances for small spaces now. What is the effect of this? Why as a human, who had ancestors living freely in the forests, do we want large rooms and the tall ceiling? Not just as status, but actually as a comfort in life.

    It's because it creates an illusion you are outside. With a higher proportional of visual angles you don't see the higher ceiling above you in comparison with the lower ceiling. You have a higher proportion of your time forgeting you are inside a box.

    If you combine the luxury housing, with the center of a city. You have preserved of the more natural aspects of life, while having also more of the convenience of the insect colony. Luxury housing in the city - it's a relative optimization between those values.


    lived in the USA and to have a mutual connection, who told me Clooney and his wife were regular customers/friends.

     

    It can't be too bad as a place, if also Berlusconi was living in the zone.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119643/Idyllic-views-30-rooms-George-Clooney-neighbour--great-place-bunga-bunga-parties-Berlusconi-splashes-Lake-Como-playboy-pad.html
     

    Replies: @AP

  468. Finland and USA just signed a defense agreement, giving the US military access to Finnish bases, including ones close to the Russian border.

  469. @John Johnson
    @A123

    Russia has a functioning democracy.

    How can you have a functioning democracy when you can get prison time for criticizing the president?

    Replies: @Beckow

    …a functioning democracy when you can get prison time for criticizing the president?

    Can you give us one example? Be specific, someone who is in prison for nothing else but criticizing the president…

    There is an Australian guy in UK prison, Assange, for releasing embarrassing information about US politicians, do you mean something like that? Assange has been in prison almost 10 years…is UK than a “functioning democracy”? Or Anglos can and Russians can’t…let’s get the rules straight.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow

    Russia doesn't have basic political parties (hasn't for a long time), I don't know - maybe they don't want them.

    And there are plenty of political prisoners - some of them are placed in inhumane conditions. The penitentiary system is brutal.

    Some native peoples complain about their languages being oppressed, but that's ok by most Russians, since most of them want to assimilate them.

    Chechnya has its own rules - and Kadyrov's son can just beat someone up and get away with it.

    But I suppose this is what they prefer.

    Replies: @Beckow

  470. @LatW
    @Beckow


    And Europe to them. It is a war, they try to hurt each other.
     
    That there is a war is true, but that Europe has tried to hurt the actual territories of Russia or Belarus is not true. Europe has explicitly abstained from taking the route of directly attacking Russia (even in a hybrid manner). Sending illegal migrants, deliberately and in a calculated way, is an attack on the neighbors' sovereignty - a physical attack. It is an attack on Europeans and the White world. That you are nonchalant about this (or, in fact, consider this ok, that says a lot about you).

    I am sorry 400k migrants in Finland is not “very few”
     
    In Poland and the Baltics there are very few. In Finland - fewer than in other Western countries. Do you understand the difference between legal and illegal migration? Do you understand why rule of law matters?

    And just because Finland has some, doesn't mean they need more, especially illegally. Russia is doing everything now to ruin relations with all neighbors.


    About 100 times more Indians and other migrants go to Poland to “work” than how many sneak through from Belarus.
     
    Indians who arrive for work are recruited there specifically by the employers and aim to be productive, this is done based on the needs of those employers and with the permission of the state, the mostly young men that are sent through the border are of questionable character or use and they are there illegally.

    This is a show
     
    No, it is open aggression. And the citizens of those states do not like it.

    Europe and the West explicitly and violently rejected Russia as an equal.
     
    Why should they be accepted as equal when they have proven to be unable to introduce basic democratic and human rights norms?

    So Russia has found new friends.
     

    That they found new friends (yea, right, especially in Chechnya! Those are some real friends, aha), is not something we care about, what we care about is that there are no mosques on European soil. Or any kind of invaders.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Europe has explicitly abstained from taking the route of directly attacking Russia (even in a hybrid manner)

    That’s simply not true – Europe has given Kiev missiles and other weapons that have been used directly on Russia. Imagine Russia giving missiles to some country (or a group) that would then launch them at Euro cities…but France and UK have done that with regard to Russia.

    It is an attack on Europeans and the White world. That you are nonchalant about this…

    Wow. White world…we are home my Latvian friend. I would be less nonchalant if Western Europe was actually still recognizably European (let’s not do “white”, keep that for your weekly neo-Nazi re-unions).

    Do you understand the difference between legal and illegal migration?

    They are all asylum seekers – the millions coming to Europe, including to Finland, and the 1,000 who came through Russia. Exactly the same legal status.

    it is open aggression. And the citizens of those states do not like it.

    From what I can gather most citizens of Germany, UK, Sweden, France also don’t like it and consider it an open aggression tolerated or supported by their sell-out governments – remember the million Merkel refugees? How were they any different than the few stragglers crossing in through Russia?

    Russia accepted as equal when they have proven to be unable to introduce basic democratic and human rights norms?

    Which ones? Not keeping dissidents in jail like Assange? Not banning speech that is disrespectful to coloreds, or LGxyz gender freaks? Not bombing weaker countries like Nato did in Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya? Not doing a genocide on the natives like Israel is doing right now? Which ones?

    Let’s say that is even true – so now you claim that people who don’t live up to your subjective standards and norms are not equal? Isn’t that what the colonials preached? And the Nazis? …we are back full circle.

    what we care about is that there are no mosques on European soil. Or any kind of invaders.

    Ahhh…aren’t there already about million mosques on the European soil? Didn’t Nato go to war twice to create pure Islamic states in the Balkans (Kosovo, Bosnia)? Didn’t US-UK support the Chechen separatism? And there are almost 75 million “invaders” in Europe – plus about 100 US bases. You are either incoherent or uninformed…

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    That’s simply not true – Europe has given Kiev missiles and other weapons that have been used directly on Russia.
     
    There was very little choice given the gravity of the assault. You can't fire missiles at Lviv (one of the first things that happened) and expect Europe to not be bothered.

    let’s not do “white”
     
    I know you won't.

    And I should be content with tens of thousands of Ukrainians murdered and a mosque placed where it never had been before... exactly why? You may not care about European space being reduced, but not everyone is as cynical as you. It was illegal to violate Ukraine's borders - no relativization on your behalf will change this fact. It's as basic as not walking into someone's home without permission, much less stealing something.


    They are all asylum seekers – the millions coming to Europe, including to Finland, and the 1,000 who came through Russia. Exactly the same legal status.
     
    Again, just because you personally choose to ignore this hybrid attack (for ideological reasons and because you're in the Russian camp, not because you're somehow objective - you never have been), doesn't mean that those who are directly affected by it will ignore it and not take the necessary measures.

    How were they any different than the few stragglers crossing in through Russia?
     
    We, Eastern Euros and Finns, have a lower tolerance for this than Western Euros.

    so now you claim that people who don’t live up to your subjective standards and norms are not equal?

     

    They have not earned respect from Europeans based on European norms. You want European norms, you want respect from advanced countries - have higher standards. It's fine, they don't want them. I no longer care.

    aren’t there already about million mosques on the European soil?

     

    The mosque in Mariupol is new. The Asian migrants are new. First ever in history. None of that is ok. But of course all the American alt-right will be quiet about it.
  471. “The myth that Putin was bent on conquering Ukraine…”

    Comments by John Mearsheimer on the early negotiations scuttled by the US-UK.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Comments by John Mearsheimer on the early negotiations scuttled by the US-UK
     
    Let me point out that this particular train has left the station a long time ago and is not coming back. Anyone with a brain should know by now that Putin is 100% predictable. His second offer is always much worse for the opponent than the first. His third offer is usually an unconditional capitulation.

    The empire and its lowly Ukie servants have missed their chance. This is irreversible, like the life itself.
  472. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...a functioning democracy when you can get prison time for criticizing the president?
     
    Can you give us one example? Be specific, someone who is in prison for nothing else but criticizing the president...

    There is an Australian guy in UK prison, Assange, for releasing embarrassing information about US politicians, do you mean something like that? Assange has been in prison almost 10 years...is UK than a "functioning democracy"? Or Anglos can and Russians can't...let's get the rules straight.

    Replies: @LatW

    Russia doesn’t have basic political parties (hasn’t for a long time), I don’t know – maybe they don’t want them.

    And there are plenty of political prisoners – some of them are placed in inhumane conditions. The penitentiary system is brutal.

    Some native peoples complain about their languages being oppressed, but that’s ok by most Russians, since most of them want to assimilate them.

    Chechnya has its own rules – and Kadyrov’s son can just beat someone up and get away with it.

    But I suppose this is what they prefer.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW

    One example, that's all I asked - and you failed. All you do is generalities that can be said about most countries by people who hate them.

    Russia has political parties, somebody complained here that they even still have a Communist party. But there are other liberal, right-wing, leftist parties, some party called for some reason Jabloko (were they drunk?), etc...you simply lie.

    And how about Assange? Are you going to pretend he doesn't exist? That is very mature...that's the way to do it, pretend that anything that doesn't fit doesn't exist. So how about Assange in jail for 10 years in UK?

    There are also a few hundred Americans in jail for years for a demonstration inside Capitol - the horror! How dare they demonstrate!... like that has never happened around the world, the crime of entering the Parliament and complaining loudly...is that functional democracy enough?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW

  473. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...Europe has explicitly abstained from taking the route of directly attacking Russia (even in a hybrid manner)
     
    That's simply not true - Europe has given Kiev missiles and other weapons that have been used directly on Russia. Imagine Russia giving missiles to some country (or a group) that would then launch them at Euro cities...but France and UK have done that with regard to Russia.

    It is an attack on Europeans and the White world. That you are nonchalant about this...
     
    Wow. White world...we are home my Latvian friend. I would be less nonchalant if Western Europe was actually still recognizably European (let's not do "white", keep that for your weekly neo-Nazi re-unions).

    Do you understand the difference between legal and illegal migration?
     
    They are all asylum seekers - the millions coming to Europe, including to Finland, and the 1,000 who came through Russia. Exactly the same legal status.

    it is open aggression. And the citizens of those states do not like it.
     
    From what I can gather most citizens of Germany, UK, Sweden, France also don't like it and consider it an open aggression tolerated or supported by their sell-out governments - remember the million Merkel refugees? How were they any different than the few stragglers crossing in through Russia?

    Russia accepted as equal when they have proven to be unable to introduce basic democratic and human rights norms?
     
    Which ones? Not keeping dissidents in jail like Assange? Not banning speech that is disrespectful to coloreds, or LGxyz gender freaks? Not bombing weaker countries like Nato did in Serbia, Iraq, Syria, Libya? Not doing a genocide on the natives like Israel is doing right now? Which ones?

    Let's say that is even true - so now you claim that people who don't live up to your subjective standards and norms are not equal? Isn't that what the colonials preached? And the Nazis? ...we are back full circle.


    what we care about is that there are no mosques on European soil. Or any kind of invaders.
     
    Ahhh...aren't there already about million mosques on the European soil? Didn't Nato go to war twice to create pure Islamic states in the Balkans (Kosovo, Bosnia)? Didn't US-UK support the Chechen separatism? And there are almost 75 million "invaders" in Europe - plus about 100 US bases. You are either incoherent or uninformed...

    Replies: @LatW

    That’s simply not true – Europe has given Kiev missiles and other weapons that have been used directly on Russia.

    There was very little choice given the gravity of the assault. You can’t fire missiles at Lviv (one of the first things that happened) and expect Europe to not be bothered.

    let’s not do “white”

    I know you won’t.

    And I should be content with tens of thousands of Ukrainians murdered and a mosque placed where it never had been before… exactly why? You may not care about European space being reduced, but not everyone is as cynical as you. It was illegal to violate Ukraine’s borders – no relativization on your behalf will change this fact. It’s as basic as not walking into someone’s home without permission, much less stealing something.

    They are all asylum seekers – the millions coming to Europe, including to Finland, and the 1,000 who came through Russia. Exactly the same legal status.

    Again, just because you personally choose to ignore this hybrid attack (for ideological reasons and because you’re in the Russian camp, not because you’re somehow objective – you never have been), doesn’t mean that those who are directly affected by it will ignore it and not take the necessary measures.

    How were they any different than the few stragglers crossing in through Russia?

    We, Eastern Euros and Finns, have a lower tolerance for this than Western Euros.

    so now you claim that people who don’t live up to your subjective standards and norms are not equal?

    They have not earned respect from Europeans based on European norms. You want European norms, you want respect from advanced countries – have higher standards. It’s fine, they don’t want them. I no longer care.

    aren’t there already about million mosques on the European soil?

    The mosque in Mariupol is new. The Asian migrants are new. First ever in history. None of that is ok. But of course all the American alt-right will be quiet about it.

  474. @LatW
    @Dmitry


    He says it only takes him 8 minutes to make this recipe from the beginning to cooking
     
    The recipe itself is super easy, it's a very common home recipe. It's just that the prep is time consuming. Crimping the dumplings can be a bit tricky for guys because they have bigger fingers. I prefer them when they are not completely brown, but still a bit yellow on the sides. Lol, "fat dumplings" is not the best translation, it sounds a bit awkward and hardly appetizing, those are "pastries with bacon bits".

    He says he can demolish 15 of these...hahahah! Look, maybe he can, but not when you're a woman who tries to stay in shape. Unless she's going to out and do physical work.

    Dmitry, you have been too alienated from Eastern Euro culture if you believe this is a complicated recipe. :) Time to get back to your roots. :)


    But of course, it’s a different product. One is a made by an experts’ hands, another is made by a machine in a factory.

     

    Everyone likes individual touch (and better ingredients), and a lovely presentation or atmosphere, but these types of pastries are also mass produced. They're ok, but they are better when still soft and warm. Maybe they can experiment with the filling a little more, but then it wouldn't be the traditional recipe anymore.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    you have been too alienated from Eastern Euro culture if you believe this is a complicated recipe. 🙂 Time to get back to your roots.

    You mean finding the plastic bag of frozen dumpling in the freezer, put it in the pan of hot water, impatiently remove before defrosting and eat the wet salty half-cold half-hot factory mix of chemicals on your plate? Because, at least in terms of my origins, that’s my cooking roots.

    recipe itself is super easy, it’s a very common home recipe. It’s just that the prep is time consuming. Crimping the dumplings can be a bit tricky for guys because they have bigger fingers

    I don’t think any of his recipes would be easy or you could follow with some high levels of experiences and skill.

    The baked dumplings look soft, shiny, like they are designed to be photographed for a cooking book. It would feel like a crime to eat those works of art and professionalism. I’d guess he works in artisan patisserie.

    These are probably a kind of donuts which he sells for $10 each one.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Dmitry


    You mean finding the plastic bag of frozen dumpling in the freezer, put it in the pan of hot water, impatiently remove before defrosting and eat the wet salty half-cold half-hot factory mix of chemicals on your plate? Because, at least in terms of my origins, that’s my cooking roots.
     
    So funny... LOL. Maybe a bit too much social realism there (although I bet not too far from the truth... aw, poor you). :) For me it's more like, nice, steaming, freshly boiled dumplings, pork or mushroom... with a spoonful of sour cream and maybe a little bit of cut parsley on top. :) Maybe with some ground cheese.

    I don’t think any of his recipes would be easy or you could follow with some high levels of experiences and skill.
     
    I like how he goes "Hi, my bakers" as if we're all equally skilled. :) You shouldn't have shown me this blog, I looked at the rest of it and almost fainted. Check out his Instagram, too, he has a lot of classics and some international as well.

    He made brownies... :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjCu8aq0my0

    Replies: @Barbarossa

  475. Moving back to the hoi polloi, I think it is worth mentioning that “rednecks” (often known as regular people) are universal. The pastimes in different places are different, such as jumps and drifts in tanks (Russia) and or whatever equivalent reckless fun is dreamed up by Ukrainian good old boys.

    In the Southern USA Hannah is some sort of icon, just too cute to be ignored. I guess she is the ultimate redneck tomboy, not for everyone, but a sight for sore eyes anyway.

    I wonder if she is more popular in Ukraine or Russia?

  476. @Gerard1234
    @John Johnson


    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape
     
    Nonsense. Most of us who have been to America have visited California, New York and of course Florida(well populated states with coasts)..........and the over prevalence of fat-f**ks in America compared to the rest of the world seems to be the 100% consensus. No point in talking about those Americans in good condition you idiot. I would say no exaggeration to say about 40-50% of these people I am seeing in America are very overweight.


    Its not in dispute that Americans, because alot of them are sick, pitiful idiots ......eat bigger portions, tasteless portions of filth, manufactured food, than the rest of the other countries in the world. I have never seen anything like it. At least if it was decent food.....but even then these portions are obscene.

    And LOL......look at how popular Beef jerky is in America. You could put a gun to my head telling me to eat beef jerky and I would still refuse to eat it - you would have to put a gun to the head of most Americans to STOP them from eating it. Obscene.

    Replies: @QCIC, @John Johnson

    Whites near any type of beach tend to be in better shape

    Nonsense. Most of us who have been to America have visited California, New York and of course Florida(well populated states with coasts)……….and the over prevalence of fat-f**ks in America compared to the rest of the world seems to be the 100% consensus.

    Venice Beach boardwalk and the White burbs of the Confederacy look like different worlds.

    The data backs such observations as seen by this obesity map:
    Americans in general need to lose some weight but the regional differences can be shocking. There are areas in the South where a moderately in-shape woman looks like a model by comparison. Too many Whites in the South stay inside when it is hot and then take part in sedentary activities. It’s important to have a pool not just to cool off but for exercise.

    And LOL……look at how popular Beef jerky is in America. You could put a gun to my head telling me to eat beef jerky and I would still refuse to eat it – you would have to put a gun to the head of most Americans to STOP them from eating it.

    Beef jerky not in the top 25 favorite snacks of Americans
    https://jackedgorilla.com/most-popular-snacks-america/

    The reason you see it a lot in warmer is states is the shelf life.

    Europeans don’t realize how quickly everything melts or goes bad in the heat.

    Beef jerky is used by workers as a quick lunch. It’s very high protein and can take a beating.

    I’m not saying it is the healthiest choice but it isn’t a craving snack for most Americans. Chips and candy are far more popular. So are Nabisco crackers which I really don’t get. I also don’t get the love for the classic Hershey’s bar. Great for Smores but I don’t get the appeal when compared to the competition.

  477. @AP
    @Dmitry


    $3000 per person in Moscow, if one already owned a flat, would be nice.

    Maybe in a warm natural country like Spain or Southern Italy, for the South West European lifestyle. I wouldn’t like to stay in Moscow with less than $10000 per month. Not because of expensive, but what is the psychological motivation to stay in a capital termite colony of millions of people sitting on top of each other
     

    It's a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transportation in the world (my wife just returned, now even the elektrichka to the town in a pine forest far outside the city where her dacha is, is brand new and runs every 10 minutes. Amazing!), and interesting friends and relatives. And depending on where one lives it does not have to feel like a termite colony. We often stay in my wife's family's flat in a Stalin building with very thick walls. It is silent inside, with the windows closed. Ceilings are very tall. There is a green courtyard in the back, where our windows face. Downtown buildings are old and to human scale, not like Manhattan. There are green boulevards. I never feel like in a termite colony there.

    local realtors and lawyers would deal with all of that. I have seen some nice and affordable places on lakes Maggiore,

    Sure I would guess wealthy Americans have good lawyers in those kind of places so probably it’s not much problem.
     

    I don't think it's a matter of wealth. At least in the USA, the process of buying property always involves a lawyer, who provides numerous documents to sign at closing. I imagine it would be the same in Italy, or Poland, or wherever. I am not wealthy as you seem to imply, just UMC.

    Also the increases in the value of the properties in those areas. Actor George Clooney bought a house there from the family of John Kerry for $10 million, now the value is over $100 million.
     
    I would not be able to afford Lake Como.

    You've reminded me - while on a road trip I randomly found myself in a town on Lake Como, and decided to eat not in the center but in an incredible restaurant, away from tourists, up the hill with beautiful views. Chatted with the owner for awhile, who happened to have once lived in the USA and to have a mutual connection, who told me Clooney and his wife were regular customers/friends. He wanted to introduce us, but we were there only for one day.

    Food was very good, of course. Very fresh lake fish.

    Here was the view:

    https://i.imgur.com/f6N6wQR.jpg

    And here was the fish:

    https://i.imgur.com/Enk4xHB.jpg

    Replies: @Dmitry

    It’s a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transport

    Which is the world’s best metro system. Building the world’s most complicated system of tunnels under soil is not what I would call the most non-ant, non-termite behavior,

    The utopian life for the tree monkey from the tropical forests. 10 million souls (more than world’s human population when modern agriculture begins), going in underground tunnels, monumentalist buildings representing political power and royal wealth of the Queen of the hive which is unaccessible for 99,9%, but controls many parts of the life of 100% although with different extents depending on their role in the hive.

    Some aspects of Moscow are like the most accurate emulations of the hive colony. Queen of the ant lives in the center of hive and controls the ants in the outer parts of the hive using pheromone signals, in this example humans are using communication encoded in the electromagnetic radiation to emulate the ants’ signaling. At the end of the year this Queen even sits in the center of the hive and gives signals for four hours, which is reproduced visually and transmitted electromagnetically to the tens of millions of the hive.

    If you want the more simple answer. I think it’s one of the more high reward places for doing culture tourism, especially in the summer. For living? Only if I was at least upper middle class and had tall ceilings.

    in my wife’s family’s flat in a Stalin building with very thick walls. It is silent inside, with the windows closed. Ceilings are very tall

    I agree the tall ceilings and the quiet neighbors are important to reduce alienation.

    Except when I was too young to be caring, I was growing up in one of the more “elite” projects and this has a kind of curse as it probably reduced my tolerances for small spaces now. What is the effect of this? Why as a human, who had ancestors living freely in the forests, do we want large rooms and the tall ceiling? Not just as status, but actually as a comfort in life.

    It’s because it creates an illusion you are outside. With a higher proportional of visual angles you don’t see the higher ceiling above you in comparison with the lower ceiling. You have a higher proportion of your time forgeting you are inside a box.

    If you combine the luxury housing, with the center of a city. You have preserved of the more natural aspects of life, while having also more of the convenience of the insect colony. Luxury housing in the city – it’s a relative optimization between those values.

    lived in the USA and to have a mutual connection, who told me Clooney and his wife were regular customers/friends.

    It can’t be too bad as a place, if also Berlusconi was living in the zone.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119643/Idyllic-views-30-rooms-George-Clooney-neighbour--great-place-bunga-bunga-parties-Berlusconi-splashes-Lake-Como-playboy-pad.html

    • Replies: @AP
    @Dmitry


    It’s a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transport

    Which is the world’s best metro system. Building the world’s most complicated system of tunnels under soil is not what I would call the most non-ant, non-termite behavior
     
    Moscow’s above ground rail lines have been built up also. As I had mentioned, the elektrichka that goes out to dacha country is now fully modernized, even has bathrooms on the train cars, and there are many trains so they no go every few minutes versus every 30 or so in the past. And this was improved under Sobyanin recently, during Covid and the war.

    Such improvement is bitter when considering the suffering and misery out in the provinces during this same time. But keeping the millions in the capital satisfied and pleased is good for stability.

    Your hive analogy is a clever one, and appreciated.

    If you want the more simple answer. I think it’s one of the more high reward places for doing culture tourism, especially in the summer
     
    I know you find Moscow’s winter decorations to be vulgar, but I think they are charming. And there is more theater in winter. The nice thing about a huge great city is that it is relatively immune to seasonal effects on enjoyment: plenty to do indoors.

    Except when I was too young to be caring, I was growing up in one of the more “elite” projects and this has a kind of curse as it probably reduced my tolerances for small spaces now. What is the effect of this? Why as a human, who had ancestors living freely in the forests, do we want large rooms and the tall ceiling? Not just as status, but actually as a comfort in life
     
    Absolutely. It is why I could never live in New York - I am not rich enough to have a place with appropriate indoor space there, and other than Central Park the place is too closed in. So I live in a smaller town where I can have a Victorian house with tall ceilings and gardens around.

    Chicago is superior to New York in this way. It also has urban termite mounds in the centre and near the lake, but also has many late 19th century neighbourhoods full of graystone houses, green boulevards, and parks. This is where most people in the city live. The most pleasant great and real American city, sadly getting ruined by progressive politicians.

    It can’t be too bad as a place, if also Berlusconi was living in the zone.
     
    The Italian Lakes are a sort of paradise.
  478. @LatW
    @Beckow

    Russia doesn't have basic political parties (hasn't for a long time), I don't know - maybe they don't want them.

    And there are plenty of political prisoners - some of them are placed in inhumane conditions. The penitentiary system is brutal.

    Some native peoples complain about their languages being oppressed, but that's ok by most Russians, since most of them want to assimilate them.

    Chechnya has its own rules - and Kadyrov's son can just beat someone up and get away with it.

    But I suppose this is what they prefer.

    Replies: @Beckow

    One example, that’s all I asked – and you failed. All you do is generalities that can be said about most countries by people who hate them.

    Russia has political parties, somebody complained here that they even still have a Communist party. But there are other liberal, right-wing, leftist parties, some party called for some reason Jabloko (were they drunk?), etc…you simply lie.

    And how about Assange? Are you going to pretend he doesn’t exist? That is very mature…that’s the way to do it, pretend that anything that doesn’t fit doesn’t exist. So how about Assange in jail for 10 years in UK?

    There are also a few hundred Americans in jail for years for a demonstration inside Capitol – the horror! How dare they demonstrate!… like that has never happened around the world, the crime of entering the Parliament and complaining loudly…is that functional democracy enough?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    And how about Assange? Are you going to pretend he doesn’t exist? That is very mature…that’s the way to do it, pretend that anything that doesn’t fit doesn’t exist.

    Assange didn't have a warrant for criticizing the dictator or engaging in independent journalism. Do you deny that either can lead to prison time in Russia?

    He dumped classified military documents on the internet with the help of his tranny pal Manning.

    There is no legal right to publicizing classified documents.

    He didn't even know what was on the documents. He just dumped them for the sake of it.

    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes which included raping a woman while she was sleeping. The guy is a creep and not some freedom fighter. He has accusations from multiple women.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    One example, that’s all I asked – and you failed.
     
    Sorry, I was busy - yes, there are political prisoners, plenty. One painful case is that of Alexey Gorinov, a local MP in Moscow, who was sentenced to 7 years for objecting to war. He's in prison now with health problems and they won't allow volunteer doctors to take care of him.

    Ilya Yashin, another political prisoner, wrote recently about the conditions he's been held in, in a prison cell the size of 3x4 meters, where he is not allowed to lay down during the day, not even on the floor, but only sit on a small chair, from 5am to 9pm, in cold. Several political prisoners are held in this way.

    And of course there is no competition among political parties in Russia (or any kind of real political competition).

    And how about Assange?
     

    He disclosed classified material. It's more of a security issue, not political.

    There are also a few hundred Americans in jail for years for a demonstration inside Capitol
     
    While I admit that some of them received what seems like unduly harsh sentences, it's not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.

    Replies: @Beckow

  479. @Beckow
    @LatW

    One example, that's all I asked - and you failed. All you do is generalities that can be said about most countries by people who hate them.

    Russia has political parties, somebody complained here that they even still have a Communist party. But there are other liberal, right-wing, leftist parties, some party called for some reason Jabloko (were they drunk?), etc...you simply lie.

    And how about Assange? Are you going to pretend he doesn't exist? That is very mature...that's the way to do it, pretend that anything that doesn't fit doesn't exist. So how about Assange in jail for 10 years in UK?

    There are also a few hundred Americans in jail for years for a demonstration inside Capitol - the horror! How dare they demonstrate!... like that has never happened around the world, the crime of entering the Parliament and complaining loudly...is that functional democracy enough?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW

    And how about Assange? Are you going to pretend he doesn’t exist? That is very mature…that’s the way to do it, pretend that anything that doesn’t fit doesn’t exist.

    Assange didn’t have a warrant for criticizing the dictator or engaging in independent journalism. Do you deny that either can lead to prison time in Russia?

    He dumped classified military documents on the internet with the help of his tranny pal Manning.

    There is no legal right to publicizing classified documents.

    He didn’t even know what was on the documents. He just dumped them for the sake of it.

    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes which included raping a woman while she was sleeping. The guy is a creep and not some freedom fighter. He has accusations from multiple women.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    There is no legal right to publicizing classified documents.
     
    The politically persecuted people are always and everywhere charged with "leaking docs", "working for a foreign power", etc...never for criticism. Look into what the actual charges are, they are identical with Assange. If UK can, why Russia can't? Navalny was also charged with a proven fraud, but it started with releasing classified docs on internet. Same stuff.

    You parroting the official line is why the West is in such a horrible bind - you lost the ability to think critically. You are conformist yes-man, it is almost amusing...Assange is a political prisoner....so how about the UK "democracy"? Works for some, but not for dissidents? And those demonstrators in jail for daring to protest in Congress? I guess it is a "sacred" spot, unlike parliaments all over the world...let's try to imagine 1,000 people in jail for demonstrating in the Russian parliament. You would go nuts.


    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes
     
    No he didn't - all those charges were dropped because they were bogus and only served to detain him so he couldn't travel. You are quite despicable that you repeat it, must be the sense that you are defending a losing cause...

    Replies: @John Johnson

  480. Just to satisfy my curiosity, the Balts need to go rooting around deep in their soil, looking for ancient dog bones with DNA signatures.

    I want to know if they had woolly dogs before sheep were domesticated, exactly like the Indians of the Pacific Northwest, who raised them in pens and sheared them for their hair to weave into blankets.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    I want to know if they had woolly dogs before sheep were domesticated, exactly like the Indians of the Pacific Northwest, who raised them in pens and sheared them for their hair to weave into blankets.
     
    Oh, that's right, those resourceful, laid back people with their wonderful canoes... :) Poor wooly dog went extinct. Doggy pelts were probably enough, given the relatively mild climate, the ancient Balts did not have these kinds of luxuries... such as salmon jumping out of the water and right into their lap.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/8f/ba/5a8fbab5657bf4702bdb5b22f68658ca.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

  481. @Dmitry
    Mr Hack I was going to ask how your hi-fi system has been developing?

    I remember last time you discussed you were connecting it to your television?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Not made any upgrades etc; to my system. I actually don’t even use it that much and have reverted to listening to music on my computer, at home and at work. I’ve become very modern now, and have reverted to “minimalism”. 🙂 Besides Dmitry, I think that it was you who suggested that I plug in my TV to my stereo system, which probably isn’t such a bad idea, but they’re both actually located in separate rooms.

    But I’m glad that you’ve brought up the subject. Here’s the deal, I have many varied tastes in music and spending a lot of potential money on CD’ could be diverted to other uses. Where does it all end, when there’s no end in sight? In accord with my ever developing credo of minimalism, I’m seriously thinking about going in another totally different direction. Hook up a laptop to my stereo system and acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify. Have you ever looked through their vast library of music that was originally produced on CD’s? More than you and I both could ever accumulate in our lifetimes. Of course, I do enjoy reading the little booklets that accompany the CD’s with all of the little details, but I’d have access to a world class library of music for what, $10 a month…what do you think?

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    become very modern now, and have reverted to “minimalism”

     

    There is something disappointing.

    isn’t such a bad idea, but they’re both actually located in separate rooms.

     

    Separate listening room and home cinema is a luxury.

    Hook up a laptop to my stereo system and

     

    Yes we discussed this last time 1,5 years ago, I was wondering if there was progress.
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-191-russia-ukraine/#comment-5424879

    The easy way is just to use the audio interface to connect a personal computer as the music server to your hi-fi.

    What are the components of the hi-fi?

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface


    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify. Have you ever looked through their vast library of music that was originally produced on CD’s? More than you and I both could ever accumulate
     
    Do you have CDs currently? You can just https://www.exactaudiocopy.de of 1998 to move your CD collection to a hard drive as FLAC files.

    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify.

     

    I would attain the audio files so don't need streaming, although I can understand peoples' subscription for Spotify if you want to find new music or haven't already a music collection.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

  482. @Dmitry
    @LatW


    you have been too alienated from Eastern Euro culture if you believe this is a complicated recipe. 🙂 Time to get back to your roots.

     

    You mean finding the plastic bag of frozen dumpling in the freezer, put it in the pan of hot water, impatiently remove before defrosting and eat the wet salty half-cold half-hot factory mix of chemicals on your plate? Because, at least in terms of my origins, that's my cooking roots.

    recipe itself is super easy, it’s a very common home recipe. It’s just that the prep is time consuming. Crimping the dumplings can be a bit tricky for guys because they have bigger fingers
     
    I don't think any of his recipes would be easy or you could follow with some high levels of experiences and skill.

    The baked dumplings look soft, shiny, like they are designed to be photographed for a cooking book. It would feel like a crime to eat those works of art and professionalism. I'd guess he works in artisan patisserie.

    These are probably a kind of donuts which he sells for $10 each one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbhiBnr804

    Replies: @LatW

    You mean finding the plastic bag of frozen dumpling in the freezer, put it in the pan of hot water, impatiently remove before defrosting and eat the wet salty half-cold half-hot factory mix of chemicals on your plate? Because, at least in terms of my origins, that’s my cooking roots.

    So funny… LOL. Maybe a bit too much social realism there (although I bet not too far from the truth… aw, poor you). 🙂 For me it’s more like, nice, steaming, freshly boiled dumplings, pork or mushroom… with a spoonful of sour cream and maybe a little bit of cut parsley on top. 🙂 Maybe with some ground cheese.

    I don’t think any of his recipes would be easy or you could follow with some high levels of experiences and skill.

    I like how he goes “Hi, my bakers” as if we’re all equally skilled. 🙂 You shouldn’t have shown me this blog, I looked at the rest of it and almost fainted. Check out his Instagram, too, he has a lot of classics and some international as well.

    [MORE]

    He made brownies… 🙂

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @LatW

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW, @songbird, @LatW

  483. @Mikel
    @Mr. Hack


    Weeding kind of soured me to the whole proposition after a certain point in time.
     
    I know, I know. Who enjoys weeding? Fortunately, in these arid parts drip irrigation solves a good part of the problem. Without water only the most insidious weeds can grow in the dry summer heat. But some grow anyhow and it's a tough competition between them on the one hand and you and your crops on the other. An acre suddenly becomes an immensity. A farmer's life is not supposed to be easy but it does provide plenty of exercise and my rabbits convert weeds into meat with amazing enthusiasm.

    I am also curious as to how you managed to prevent those potatoes from freezing solid in an unconditioned Minnesota garage. Here temps don't drop to the Northern Midwest levels but the only way to store them fresh for several months is in a root cellar or by burying them in the ground inside an insulted container. Some people bury old freezers with the door looking upwards for easy access. This old ranch had a root cellar in the backyard but it was quite creepy so I decided to demolish it. I dug a trench under a big carport and store my potatoes inside it, sorted by size and condition inside second-hand coolers that I bought at a charity shop. The trench is insulated on all sides and covered on top by a wooden hatch door.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I am also curious as to how you managed to prevent those potatoes from freezing solid in an unconditioned Minnesota garage

    I really don’t know how I managed to do this, but it happened. songbird also asked me about this…
    As I related to him, I had placed all of the potatoes on cardboard and then covered everything up with an old thick wool blanket. Now that I think it over, perhap I also included some large plastic bags underneath and on top too. It’s been a long time (30 years?) when this occurred. I don’t know whether plastic would have helped much? I was too inexperienced to know much about the right temperatures for storing potatoes…I probably just got lucky as hell! 🙂

    I repeated this exercise for at least one more year, and my home grown potatoes still managed to grace my table along with my pot roasts quite handily. 🙂

  484. @songbird
    Just to satisfy my curiosity, the Balts need to go rooting around deep in their soil, looking for ancient dog bones with DNA signatures.

    I want to know if they had woolly dogs before sheep were domesticated, exactly like the Indians of the Pacific Northwest, who raised them in pens and sheared them for their hair to weave into blankets.

    Replies: @LatW

    I want to know if they had woolly dogs before sheep were domesticated, exactly like the Indians of the Pacific Northwest, who raised them in pens and sheared them for their hair to weave into blankets.

    Oh, that’s right, those resourceful, laid back people with their wonderful canoes… 🙂 Poor wooly dog went extinct. Doggy pelts were probably enough, given the relatively mild climate, the ancient Balts did not have these kinds of luxuries… such as salmon jumping out of the water and right into their lap.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Whether they had them or not, surely bringing them back would help tourism and create a cottage industry in dog blankets.

    The Indian dogs are already sequenced, so you'd probably just need to use CRISPR, a few times, and maybe add in some sheep or woolly mammoth genes while you're at it.

    If there is any kind of sovereign wealth fund, I'd say the project is worth the investment.

    BTW, I wonder if that is why they didn't eat dogs. Not all the fish but the fact that the woolly dogs had a gamier taste. One of the questions, I would like the Balts to answer. In a kind of Buddhist way - because I dislike the killing of dogs.

    Replies: @LatW

  485. @Beckow
    @LatW

    One example, that's all I asked - and you failed. All you do is generalities that can be said about most countries by people who hate them.

    Russia has political parties, somebody complained here that they even still have a Communist party. But there are other liberal, right-wing, leftist parties, some party called for some reason Jabloko (were they drunk?), etc...you simply lie.

    And how about Assange? Are you going to pretend he doesn't exist? That is very mature...that's the way to do it, pretend that anything that doesn't fit doesn't exist. So how about Assange in jail for 10 years in UK?

    There are also a few hundred Americans in jail for years for a demonstration inside Capitol - the horror! How dare they demonstrate!... like that has never happened around the world, the crime of entering the Parliament and complaining loudly...is that functional democracy enough?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW

    One example, that’s all I asked – and you failed.

    Sorry, I was busy – yes, there are political prisoners, plenty. One painful case is that of Alexey Gorinov, a local MP in Moscow, who was sentenced to 7 years for objecting to war. He’s in prison now with health problems and they won’t allow volunteer doctors to take care of him.

    Ilya Yashin, another political prisoner, wrote recently about the conditions he’s been held in, in a prison cell the size of 3×4 meters, where he is not allowed to lay down during the day, not even on the floor, but only sit on a small chair, from 5am to 9pm, in cold. Several political prisoners are held in this way.

    And of course there is no competition among political parties in Russia (or any kind of real political competition).

    And how about Assange?

    He disclosed classified material. It’s more of a security issue, not political.

    There are also a few hundred Americans in jail for years for a demonstration inside Capitol

    While I admit that some of them received what seems like unduly harsh sentences, it’s not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW

    I looked up Gorinov and he was sentenced for "knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations"...not for criticising Putin as you claimed.

    It is a bullsh.t charge and I disagree with it - but everywhere in the world, not just in Russia. Assange's charge is identical - you just threw in "security" to justify it and Russians probably did too. Assange published docs that embarrassed the bosses that's why he is in jail. Gorinov did the same. What's the difference? Neither one was charged with criticising the president - that's not a crime in Russia or in the West, don't make up things.


    ...there is no competition among political parties in Russia
     
    Gorinov fella got elected in Moscow as deputy for an opposition party, so no competition? You make up things. Using the same standard one can claim that there is "no competition" between the two parties in US: how exactly does that Indian woman (Haley?) differ from Biden? They look identical and the system would like that all politicians to be like them - in total agreement and causing no trouble. Fix your own issues first, that's what decent people do....

    not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.
     
    How about all the "color" revolutions? They were all about storming parliaments, could the governments in those countries simply arrest thousands of demonstrators for "vandalism"? (Some actually did just like US, you are in good company...:)

    They were also not charged with "vandalism", there wasn't much of that. They were charged with "conspiracy to interfere with a government function"...one can charge any demonstrators anywhere in the world with that. US gave us a great "democratic" precedent.

    In Kiev the sentences for war opponents are significantly harsher. And in your Latvia not denouncing the Russian aggression is a crime. You need to apply the same standard.


    unduly harsh sentences
     
    Thousands were sentenced to years in prison for basically trespassing in Congress....and all you say is "unduly harsh"...try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn't happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it...that's no way to preach to others. You look like a loser and a hypocrite.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

  486. @LatW
    @songbird


    I want to know if they had woolly dogs before sheep were domesticated, exactly like the Indians of the Pacific Northwest, who raised them in pens and sheared them for their hair to weave into blankets.
     
    Oh, that's right, those resourceful, laid back people with their wonderful canoes... :) Poor wooly dog went extinct. Doggy pelts were probably enough, given the relatively mild climate, the ancient Balts did not have these kinds of luxuries... such as salmon jumping out of the water and right into their lap.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/8f/ba/5a8fbab5657bf4702bdb5b22f68658ca.jpg

    Replies: @songbird

    Whether they had them or not, surely bringing them back would help tourism and create a cottage industry in dog blankets.

    The Indian dogs are already sequenced, so you’d probably just need to use CRISPR, a few times, and maybe add in some sheep or woolly mammoth genes while you’re at it.

    If there is any kind of sovereign wealth fund, I’d say the project is worth the investment.

    BTW, I wonder if that is why they didn’t eat dogs. Not all the fish but the fact that the woolly dogs had a gamier taste. One of the questions, I would like the Balts to answer. In a kind of Buddhist way – because I dislike the killing of dogs.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Whether they had them or not, surely bringing them back would help tourism and create a cottage industry in dog blankets.
     
    There are some photos, and there is an example of a doggy wool blanket (at Smithsonian, I think).

    I'm not sure "tourism should be helped", unless solely from the US or Canada (and maybe Japan). These places are meant for conservation, not for swarming, they are fragile. I mean, strong with their ancient, virginal trees and their fertile, evergreen power, but still fragile enough so that you don't want millions of people just walking through there. But the doggy itself seemed quite cute, it is a bit similar to the husky, the husky is, of course, gorgeous but has a rough personality (understandably so, being an Arctic dog). This woolly doggy seems like it may have been a woman's doggy or more domestic. So maybe had a sweeter personally? More sheeplike? :)

    But it would be great to bring it back anyway. It's cute.

    BTW, I wonder if that is why they didn’t eat dogs. Not all the fish but the fact that the woolly dogs had a gamier taste.
     
    I've never heard of American Indians eating dog. The coastal Indians had it very good, the environment is incredibly bountiful. Although clams can be hard to pick. Those things are fast and will just disappear in the mud in seconds. I wonder what kind of a brain governs their movement that they are so sensitive.

    One of the questions, I would like the Balts to answer. In a kind of Buddhist way – because I dislike the killing of dogs.
     
    There is not much mention of the dog, the horse is more important. The horse is everywhere (in the songs, in the burial rituals, in the cosmogonic myths and in the rites of passage).

    But there is this poem: "you will not kick a dog, nor a burning log in the fireplace" (it's hard to translate because it uses diminutives, which are impossible to translate in English so it comes out cold). But this is a life rule. And there is sanctity in fire, so the idea is that it is just as important to treat creatures and the whole external world, with love and care, without violence, just as important as it is to revere the eternal fire.

    Replies: @songbird

  487. @AP
    @Sean


    I don’t think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness
     
    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

    It would accompany the final integration of Belarus (11 million people).

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

    especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe

     

    It’s moving in that direction, but so far Poland is advancing most quickly. Germany’s military is still a shell.

    Replies: @Sean, @Cesar1191

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    You better watch what you are smoking.

  488. @AP
    @A123


    George Washington did not evict monks from their homes and toss them in the gutter.
     
    The Americans did burn down churches and beat clergy though.

    https://trinitywallstreet.org/stories-news/1776-trinity-church-and-american-revolution

    But in the summer of 1776, as British and American forces fought for control of New York and citizens fled, the clergy of Trinity Church remained loyal to the British crown—and to their duty as parish priests. By autumn of that year, the church building, stripped of royal insignia and bells and burned to the ground, was another casualty of the Revolutionary War.

    The Clergy were everywhere threatened…sometimes treated with brutal violence.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Episcopal_Church_(United_States)#American_Revolution_(1775%E2%80%931783)

    During 1775 and 1776, the Continental Congress had issued decrees ordering churches to fast and pray on behalf of the Patriots.[9] Starting July 4, 1776, Congress and several states passed laws making prayers for the king and British Parliament acts of treason.

    By the end of the Revolution, the Anglican Church was disestablished in all states where it had previously been a privileged religion...The Baptists took the lead in disestablishment, with support from Thomas Jefferson and, especially, James Madison. Virginia was the only state to seize property belonging to the established Episcopal Church.

    In Virginia, out of 107 parishes before the war only 42 survived.[9] In Georgia, Christ Church, Savannah was the only active parish in 1790.[9] In Maryland, half of the parishes remained vacant by 1800.[9] For a period after 1816, North Carolina had no clergy when its last priest died

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The “desperate” Beckow and his penchant to avoid the truth (part of the lying lifestyle) seems to have disappeared again after you’ve disclosed the basis for your “tortured false analogies”. He’s probably on the phone somewhere warning the evicted monks to stay away from politics, especially 5th column ones during a bloody war. And to stay away from Slovakia as well. 🙂

  489. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    Not made any upgrades etc; to my system. I actually don't even use it that much and have reverted to listening to music on my computer, at home and at work. I've become very modern now, and have reverted to "minimalism". :-) Besides Dmitry, I think that it was you who suggested that I plug in my TV to my stereo system, which probably isn't such a bad idea, but they're both actually located in separate rooms.

    But I'm glad that you've brought up the subject. Here's the deal, I have many varied tastes in music and spending a lot of potential money on CD' could be diverted to other uses. Where does it all end, when there's no end in sight? In accord with my ever developing credo of minimalism, I'm seriously thinking about going in another totally different direction. Hook up a laptop to my stereo system and acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify. Have you ever looked through their vast library of music that was originally produced on CD's? More than you and I both could ever accumulate in our lifetimes. Of course, I do enjoy reading the little booklets that accompany the CD's with all of the little details, but I'd have access to a world class library of music for what, $10 a month...what do you think?

    Replies: @Dmitry

    become very modern now, and have reverted to “minimalism”

    There is something disappointing.

    isn’t such a bad idea, but they’re both actually located in separate rooms.

    Separate listening room and home cinema is a luxury.

    Hook up a laptop to my stereo system and

    Yes we discussed this last time 1,5 years ago, I was wondering if there was progress.
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-191-russia-ukraine/#comment-5424879

    The easy way is just to use the audio interface to connect a personal computer as the music server to your hi-fi.

    What are the components of the hi-fi?

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface

    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify. Have you ever looked through their vast library of music that was originally produced on CD’s? More than you and I both could ever accumulate

    Do you have CDs currently? You can just https://www.exactaudiocopy.de of 1998 to move your CD collection to a hard drive as FLAC files.

    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify.

    I would attain the audio files so don’t need streaming, although I can understand peoples’ subscription for Spotify if you want to find new music or haven’t already a music collection.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    There is something disappointing.
     
    Why is that? Hanging on to all sorts of things that maybe aren't all that essential is the first step towards hoarding (that is a serious disease, there's even a TV show about it). Less is often better, believe me, especially as you get older. I just hate clutter in the house!

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface.
     
    This link is gold, especially the video link within "audio interface for dummies" Thanks!

    I can understand peoples’ subscription for Spotify if you want to find new music or haven’t already a music collection.
     
    I currently own about 300 CD's, but have interests that could possibly extend to a 10,000 CD library. It's much more cost effective to just plug into Spotify's huge library and save the difference of buying 9,700 CD's.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Dmitry

    Spotify has deleted a third of the Rogan archive including every single episode I ever searched for. They can be found on archive.org.

    They cannot keep my password active for more than one use. Every time I use it I have to click the "forgot password" box, open an e-mail, click the new password widget, give them a new password, then one more click to get the content I was interested in. Perhaps I am the only one stuck in this software hell but it is a strong incentive to have nothing to do with spotify ever again.

    They give the data on all your listens to the NSA.

    They don't create anything. They aggregate and serve it you conveniently for money. Fuck spotify.

    Replies: @Mikel

  490. @LatW
    And, actually, I have been thinking about Hungary a bit and was wondering how much the fact that Ukrainians happen to be Eastern Slavs is affecting the attitudes of Hungarians (I do not entirely equate Orban with all Hungarians, but it does seem close). Living next to a large E.Slav population can feel ominous. Probably even with the Carpathian mountains separating the two.

    And, after all, the battle for Budapest was quite savage. And there were Ukrainians there in the Red Army. This is of course by far not the main reason, but I wonder if there is some residual discomfort there.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    have been thinking about Hungary a bit and was wondering how much the fact that Ukrainians happen to be Eastern Slavs is affecting the attitudes of Hungarians (I do not entirely equate Orban with all Hungarians, but it does seem close). Living next to a large E.Slav population can feel ominous.

    What an idiotic piece of nonsense. Completely different to the parasitic loser scum with no morals or principles who have been in charge of the Baltics, 404 of course and most of the other ex Warsaw pact states since 1991 ………Hungary has a leader who was actually a principled anti-communist and actively campaigned against the authorities during their youth.
    You not find it incredible that these retard countries like the Baltics ……….have to find, rejects, committed communists most of their lives, foreigners, North American Waffen SS scum diaspora cowards to be their President or PM nearly all the time and can’t find to at least somebody who actively resisted the Communist “oppression” for the 50 years ( opportunistic scum who switched at the last second don’t classify) to give at least some credibility to all the fake “oppression” BS? LMAO

    Of course, because there was no “oppression”, they were all fascist Police states in the 1930s and they never had it so good as when in the USSR – that explains these freaks inability to find people with an actual anti-soviet history.

    There’s Orban in Hungary , Croatia has had a few , South Africa had Mandela and several others who actively resisted or were imprisoned by the previous system that was then overturned in a revolution. I don’t agree with most of their positions but at least they have the credibility to get to the top of their countries after a revolution. For the Baltics there is none of this – just their own inferiority complexes , Uncle Sam bribery and their general love for Uncle Sam c*ck sucking are what we are seeing with the decisions by the Baltic excrement and other Warsaw pact states – not some anti-communist backlash based on imaginary “historical scars”.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    Hungary has a leader who was actually a principled anti-communist and actively campaigned against the authorities
     
    The trademark mental compulsive disease of your coprolalia and lying despite knowing about being caught quickly, lol

    Orban, the "naive" komsomol secretary who got greedy for the sorosist money at the time;)


    At the age of 14 and 15, while at his secondary grammar school, he was a secretary of the communist youth organization, KISZ, membership of which was mandatory in order to matriculate to a university.

    Orbán graduated from Blanka Teleki High School in Székesfehérvár in 1981, where he studied English. He then completed two years of military service. He later said in an interview that before this time he had considered himself a "naive and devoted supporter" of the Communist regime, but during his military service his political views had changed radically.

    In 1989, Orbán received a scholarship from the Soros Foundation to study political science at Pembroke College, Oxford.
     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    It is absolutely none of your business who is in charge in the Baltics - you're just some drunk Russian. You don't even need to worry about that, it is now "bye bye forever". The glorious Javelin will show you the way.

  491. @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    have been thinking about Hungary a bit and was wondering how much the fact that Ukrainians happen to be Eastern Slavs is affecting the attitudes of Hungarians (I do not entirely equate Orban with all Hungarians, but it does seem close). Living next to a large E.Slav population can feel ominous.
     
    What an idiotic piece of nonsense. Completely different to the parasitic loser scum with no morals or principles who have been in charge of the Baltics, 404 of course and most of the other ex Warsaw pact states since 1991 .........Hungary has a leader who was actually a principled anti-communist and actively campaigned against the authorities during their youth.
    You not find it incredible that these retard countries like the Baltics ..........have to find, rejects, committed communists most of their lives, foreigners, North American Waffen SS scum diaspora cowards to be their President or PM nearly all the time and can't find to at least somebody who actively resisted the Communist "oppression" for the 50 years ( opportunistic scum who switched at the last second don't classify) to give at least some credibility to all the fake "oppression" BS? LMAO

    Of course, because there was no "oppression", they were all fascist Police states in the 1930s and they never had it so good as when in the USSR - that explains these freaks inability to find people with an actual anti-soviet history.

    There's Orban in Hungary , Croatia has had a few , South Africa had Mandela and several others who actively resisted or were imprisoned by the previous system that was then overturned in a revolution. I don't agree with most of their positions but at least they have the credibility to get to the top of their countries after a revolution. For the Baltics there is none of this - just their own inferiority complexes , Uncle Sam bribery and their general love for Uncle Sam c*ck sucking are what we are seeing with the decisions by the Baltic excrement and other Warsaw pact states - not some anti-communist backlash based on imaginary "historical scars".

    Replies: @sudden death, @LatW

    Hungary has a leader who was actually a principled anti-communist and actively campaigned against the authorities

    The trademark mental compulsive disease of your coprolalia and lying despite knowing about being caught quickly, lol

    Orban, the “naive” komsomol secretary who got greedy for the sorosist money at the time;)

    At the age of 14 and 15, while at his secondary grammar school, he was a secretary of the communist youth organization, KISZ, membership of which was mandatory in order to matriculate to a university.

    Orbán graduated from Blanka Teleki High School in Székesfehérvár in 1981, where he studied English. He then completed two years of military service. He later said in an interview that before this time he had considered himself a “naive and devoted supporter” of the Communist regime, but during his military service his political views had changed radically.

    In 1989, Orbán received a scholarship from the Soros Foundation to study political science at Pembroke College, Oxford.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @sudden death

    LMAO - you are talking about his "views" when he was 14 or 15?!!!!!!!! This is comedy genius you idiot. I am clearly talking about when he was a young adult when I am refer to his youth .

    Accepting Soros's dirty money in 1989 is completely different to some freak doing it in 2019. Same thing in Russia where many received GosDep grants for scholarships etc to go to study in America in the 90's. "Well done" to them would be the sentiments to these people for most of us Russians.
    CLEARLY you retard, at the time these insidious schemes from Soros were viewed as nothing more than the work of an anti-communist. One of the worlds wealthiest and outspoken anti-communists - and Orban accepting the scholarship award would be because he was recognised as one of the top young anti-communists in the country.

    How could a political science or journalism scholarship student from Russia studying at Stanford or wherever in 2012 or now, that must clearly be a liberast trash - be viewed the same as somebody who got there in 1994?

    DOCTOR Mugabe and Gandhi studied in the top British Universities you idiot - that as a single thing is not an indicator of service to the system them would overthrow.

    A MIGMO graduate from Eastern Bloc studying there from the mid 80-s to 1991 ( or even later) would have been viewed suspiciously from those who came to power after Communism in the European countries. Those suspicions worthless of course......because there have been several of these MIGMO graduates going to high positions in EU/member states overcompensating for this part of their history by involving themselves anti-Russia policies for many years - such is the opportunistic, evil scum that they are.

    As I say, the same vermin in the Baltic states, where they stuggle to find ANY actual anti-communists and have had to elect KGB lesbians, the current transgender PM or the Waffen SS American Nazi POS in their top positions, and couldn't find anybody even close to Orban's level of opposing the previous system

  492. There is a going to be a Nato build up if Russia manages to grind out a very limited win, or even pulls back. If Russia were to get an outright victory over Ukraine by detaching it from the West, the Nato build up currently underway would assume enormous proportions, which Russia would have try and match, producing a Nato counter reaction … and so on. None can say where such a spiraling escalation might lead. The best solution is Russia takes a bit more of East Ukraine and the war fizzles out without any sort of peace agreement.

  493. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    become very modern now, and have reverted to “minimalism”

     

    There is something disappointing.

    isn’t such a bad idea, but they’re both actually located in separate rooms.

     

    Separate listening room and home cinema is a luxury.

    Hook up a laptop to my stereo system and

     

    Yes we discussed this last time 1,5 years ago, I was wondering if there was progress.
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-191-russia-ukraine/#comment-5424879

    The easy way is just to use the audio interface to connect a personal computer as the music server to your hi-fi.

    What are the components of the hi-fi?

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface


    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify. Have you ever looked through their vast library of music that was originally produced on CD’s? More than you and I both could ever accumulate
     
    Do you have CDs currently? You can just https://www.exactaudiocopy.de of 1998 to move your CD collection to a hard drive as FLAC files.

    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify.

     

    I would attain the audio files so don't need streaming, although I can understand peoples' subscription for Spotify if you want to find new music or haven't already a music collection.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

    There is something disappointing.

    Why is that? Hanging on to all sorts of things that maybe aren’t all that essential is the first step towards hoarding (that is a serious disease, there’s even a TV show about it). Less is often better, believe me, especially as you get older. I just hate clutter in the house!

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface.

    This link is gold, especially the video link within “audio interface for dummies” Thanks!

    I can understand peoples’ subscription for Spotify if you want to find new music or haven’t already a music collection.

    I currently own about 300 CD’s, but have interests that could possibly extend to a 10,000 CD library. It’s much more cost effective to just plug into Spotify’s huge library and save the difference of buying 9,700 CD’s.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm interested what are the components of the antique hi-fi system we have been discussing for years? Is it an American system from your parents or grandparents? Just a Japanese system from a more recent epoch?



    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface.
     
    This link is gold, especially the video link within “audio interface for dummies” Thanks!
     
    The front side of the audio interface is for connecting your electric guitar, synth or your microphones to your computer.

    But from the back side of the interface you can just use it convert the USB input from your computer into the RCA output to your antique amplifier. If you have a hi-fi system from the 1960s onwards it will have no problem with the connection. If your systems is from the 1950s it could have some strange plugs and we probably need to use the soldering iron.

    You talked about CDs though so I assume it is a modern system.

    So, you need only 2x TS to RCA cables from the audio interface to the amplifier.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RCC102R28--roland-rcc-10-2r28-dual-1-4-inch-ts-rca-interconnect-cable-10-foot

    What is the distance from the computer to the amplifier?


    currently own about 300 CD’s, but have interests that could possibly extend to a 10,000 CD library. It’s much more cost effective to just plug into Spotify’s huge library and save the difference of buying 9,700 CD’s.
     
    Lol talk about minimalism and hoarding. Now you need 10,000 CD?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  494. @AP
    @Sean


    I don’t think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness
     
    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

    It would accompany the final integration of Belarus (11 million people).

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

    especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe

     

    It’s moving in that direction, but so far Poland is advancing most quickly. Germany’s military is still a shell.

    Replies: @Sean, @Cesar1191

    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022? Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia’s population close to 200 million.

    That would be a serious boost. This population increase would have allowed Russia to overtake the Japanese economy and become the undisputed largest economy in Europe, in PPP terms, even assuming that Russia was only able to slightly increase its current GDP per capita. And of course, there are all kinds of advantages to economies of scale. Such a Russia would have a much better ability to create spheres of influence and keep other powers out.

    If you’re thinking of a way to reverse Russia’s geopolitical decline, this was a decent plan, assuming Russia’s elite were competent enough to be able to execute it. The problem would be the sanctions regime and the impact on Russia’s long-term growth, but I guess one can try to argue that there are ways around that, if one is competent enough.

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

    NATO wouldn’t need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia. Failure to do so would be credibility ruining for the US, UK and others.

    The real danger is if the US leaves NATO, because that basically ends the alliance. Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion. This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Cesar1191


    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022?
     
    I was a bit off. Maybe more like 32-35 million.

    Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia’s population close to 200 million
     
    This is what would have happened if everything had gone as planned. But Ukrainians did not cooperate.

    My biggest surprise was that Russia stupidly did not anticipate massive and strong resistance. I get that silly and naive Russia fanboys who live in the West would assume a fairly swift Russian victory (they believed that Ukrainians would surrender right away, or be swiftly defeated), but I assumed that the Russian state would have had decent intelligence on the ground. But, it seems, their people in Ukraine were deceiving their Russian handlers, perhaps telling them what they wanted to hear.

    I agree with your implications of what a swift Russian victory would have meant. Russia would have instantly become much stronger. And agree with the rest that you wrote.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @LatW
    @Cesar1191


    NATO wouldn’t need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia.
     
    The problem is that the logistics are too slow (as we saw in Ukraine war, granted that's very different than a NATO country, with a NATO country they would act much more swiftly, but we saw that the Abrams tank travels 9 months). All the assets need to be in place already now, and access denial needs to be established within the next 3-5 years or so (which is being worked on right now).

    Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion
     
    This might be the scenario that Russia is calculating for and counting on (but not the only one probably). For the war to start in the Pacific and for the US to simply not be available. This is why everything needs to be in place, in advance. A combined British and Norwegian air force can be used to swoop in and take out most targets early during the attack. Poles will have an air force, too.

    This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.
     
    It's not just the issue of America's political problems (and the logistics issue), it's a matter of self respect and basic security. There is a significant amount of Nordic investment in the Baltics and all kinds of EU infrastructure projects.

    Btw, if Russia takes over Ukraine (not likely, more likely the war, if it is not finished next year when F16s arrive, it will drag out for years in various forms), they may not attack the Baltics first, but Moldova and Georgia (easier targets). But not that it matters for the big picture of European security.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @John Johnson
    @Cesar1191

    I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia’s population close to 200 million.

    That would be a serious boost.

    That is what I concluded.

    He planned on adding their population to create a single market that would be closer to the UK in size.

    Then try to phase out the Ukrainian language like the Communists and Tsars before him.

    My guess is that he would have moved at least a half million Russians to Kiev. Undermine the natural unity in the capital to prevent future rebellions.

    But of course that plan didn't work and now he is aiming for Eastern Ukraine which includes Zaporizhzhia Oblast which was never pro-Russian in the least. His goons would never dare make that point on Russian State TV. That is also why he won't propose UN backed elections. It would undermine his lie that he is supported in the occupied territories. He is currently moving Russian Asians into Donbas so there goes any potential compromise of letting the people vote. Still waiting for a follow up post from the White nationalist bloggers on how their hero Putin is replacing Donbas Slavs with Asians.

  495. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    There is something disappointing.
     
    Why is that? Hanging on to all sorts of things that maybe aren't all that essential is the first step towards hoarding (that is a serious disease, there's even a TV show about it). Less is often better, believe me, especially as you get older. I just hate clutter in the house!

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface.
     
    This link is gold, especially the video link within "audio interface for dummies" Thanks!

    I can understand peoples’ subscription for Spotify if you want to find new music or haven’t already a music collection.
     
    I currently own about 300 CD's, but have interests that could possibly extend to a 10,000 CD library. It's much more cost effective to just plug into Spotify's huge library and save the difference of buying 9,700 CD's.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    I’m interested what are the components of the antique hi-fi system we have been discussing for years? Is it an American system from your parents or grandparents? Just a Japanese system from a more recent epoch?

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface.

    This link is gold, especially the video link within “audio interface for dummies” Thanks!

    The front side of the audio interface is for connecting your electric guitar, synth or your microphones to your computer.

    But from the back side of the interface you can just use it convert the USB input from your computer into the RCA output to your antique amplifier. If you have a hi-fi system from the 1960s onwards it will have no problem with the connection. If your systems is from the 1950s it could have some strange plugs and we probably need to use the soldering iron.

    You talked about CDs though so I assume it is a modern system.

    So, you need only 2x TS to RCA cables from the audio interface to the amplifier.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RCC102R28--roland-rcc-10-2r28-dual-1-4-inch-ts-rca-interconnect-cable-10-foot

    What is the distance from the computer to the amplifier?

    currently own about 300 CD’s, but have interests that could possibly extend to a 10,000 CD library. It’s much more cost effective to just plug into Spotify’s huge library and save the difference of buying 9,700 CD’s.

    Lol talk about minimalism and hoarding. Now you need 10,000 CD?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    I thought that we went over the component specifics 1.5 years ago, when we last discussed this topic? I even remember providing you with some photos of my exact speaker system. Anyway, unless absolutely needed, it should be sufficient to let you know that the receiver was vintage mid 1980's that included an amplifier and radio. It also included a nice cassette tape player within the design too. This offered the opportunity to make really decent tapes of CD's being played. The speakers and CD player ran through the receiver. I think that the "audio-interface" system that you've directed me to is all that is left to include to cover my needs.


    Lol talk about minimalism and hoarding. Now you need 10,000 CD?
     
    Only for my listening pleasure, but not the accompanying CD cases. That's why the whole idea that I've presented is so appealing to me. But perhaps I should totally remove listening to music from my lifestyle? Most even monks, however, allow themselves some musical expression?...

    Replies: @Dmitry

  496. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    become very modern now, and have reverted to “minimalism”

     

    There is something disappointing.

    isn’t such a bad idea, but they’re both actually located in separate rooms.

     

    Separate listening room and home cinema is a luxury.

    Hook up a laptop to my stereo system and

     

    Yes we discussed this last time 1,5 years ago, I was wondering if there was progress.
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-191-russia-ukraine/#comment-5424879

    The easy way is just to use the audio interface to connect a personal computer as the music server to your hi-fi.

    What are the components of the hi-fi?

    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface


    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify. Have you ever looked through their vast library of music that was originally produced on CD’s? More than you and I both could ever accumulate
     
    Do you have CDs currently? You can just https://www.exactaudiocopy.de of 1998 to move your CD collection to a hard drive as FLAC files.

    acquire a full blown membership to one of the internet music providers like Spotify.

     

    I would attain the audio files so don't need streaming, although I can understand peoples' subscription for Spotify if you want to find new music or haven't already a music collection.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Spotify has deleted a third of the Rogan archive including every single episode I ever searched for. They can be found on archive.org.

    They cannot keep my password active for more than one use. Every time I use it I have to click the “forgot password” box, open an e-mail, click the new password widget, give them a new password, then one more click to get the content I was interested in. Perhaps I am the only one stuck in this software hell but it is a strong incentive to have nothing to do with spotify ever again.

    They give the data on all your listens to the NSA.

    They don’t create anything. They aggregate and serve it you conveniently for money. Fuck spotify.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    They cannot keep my password active for more than one use. Every time I use it I have to click the “forgot password” box, open an e-mail, click the new password widget, give them a new password, then one more click to get the content I was interested in.
     
    But isn't every website doing some variation of that these days? It's the new trend.

    Yesterday I could only order my son's school lunch for the next month after 5 attempts to get past their captcha. I couldn't figure out which squares they considered to have "motorcycles" or "zebra crossings", or whether parts thereof were considered a correct answer. But it's all for our own good. Imagine the horror if someone decides to impersonate me in order to choose the sandwiches instead of the hot meals. No amount of security is enough to prevent that.

    Replies: @QCIC

  497. @sudden death
    @Gerard1234


    Hungary has a leader who was actually a principled anti-communist and actively campaigned against the authorities
     
    The trademark mental compulsive disease of your coprolalia and lying despite knowing about being caught quickly, lol

    Orban, the "naive" komsomol secretary who got greedy for the sorosist money at the time;)


    At the age of 14 and 15, while at his secondary grammar school, he was a secretary of the communist youth organization, KISZ, membership of which was mandatory in order to matriculate to a university.

    Orbán graduated from Blanka Teleki High School in Székesfehérvár in 1981, where he studied English. He then completed two years of military service. He later said in an interview that before this time he had considered himself a "naive and devoted supporter" of the Communist regime, but during his military service his political views had changed radically.

    In 1989, Orbán received a scholarship from the Soros Foundation to study political science at Pembroke College, Oxford.
     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    LMAO – you are talking about his “views” when he was 14 or 15?!!!!!!!! This is comedy genius you idiot. I am clearly talking about when he was a young adult when I am refer to his youth .

    Accepting Soros’s dirty money in 1989 is completely different to some freak doing it in 2019. Same thing in Russia where many received GosDep grants for scholarships etc to go to study in America in the 90’s. “Well done” to them would be the sentiments to these people for most of us Russians.
    CLEARLY you retard, at the time these insidious schemes from Soros were viewed as nothing more than the work of an anti-communist. One of the worlds wealthiest and outspoken anti-communists – and Orban accepting the scholarship award would be because he was recognised as one of the top young anti-communists in the country.

    How could a political science or journalism scholarship student from Russia studying at Stanford or wherever in 2012 or now, that must clearly be a liberast trash – be viewed the same as somebody who got there in 1994?

    DOCTOR Mugabe and Gandhi studied in the top British Universities you idiot – that as a single thing is not an indicator of service to the system them would overthrow.

    A MIGMO graduate from Eastern Bloc studying there from the mid 80-s to 1991 ( or even later) would have been viewed suspiciously from those who came to power after Communism in the European countries. Those suspicions worthless of course……because there have been several of these MIGMO graduates going to high positions in EU/member states overcompensating for this part of their history by involving themselves anti-Russia policies for many years – such is the opportunistic, evil scum that they are.

    As I say, the same vermin in the Baltic states, where they stuggle to find ANY actual anti-communists and have had to elect KGB lesbians, the current transgender PM or the Waffen SS American Nazi POS in their top positions, and couldn’t find anybody even close to Orban’s level of opposing the previous system

  498. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

     

    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022? Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia's population close to 200 million.

    That would be a serious boost. This population increase would have allowed Russia to overtake the Japanese economy and become the undisputed largest economy in Europe, in PPP terms, even assuming that Russia was only able to slightly increase its current GDP per capita. And of course, there are all kinds of advantages to economies of scale. Such a Russia would have a much better ability to create spheres of influence and keep other powers out.

    If you're thinking of a way to reverse Russia's geopolitical decline, this was a decent plan, assuming Russia's elite were competent enough to be able to execute it. The problem would be the sanctions regime and the impact on Russia's long-term growth, but I guess one can try to argue that there are ways around that, if one is competent enough.

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

     

    NATO wouldn't need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia. Failure to do so would be credibility ruining for the US, UK and others.

    The real danger is if the US leaves NATO, because that basically ends the alliance. Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion. This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022?

    I was a bit off. Maybe more like 32-35 million.

    Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia’s population close to 200 million

    This is what would have happened if everything had gone as planned. But Ukrainians did not cooperate.

    My biggest surprise was that Russia stupidly did not anticipate massive and strong resistance. I get that silly and naive Russia fanboys who live in the West would assume a fairly swift Russian victory (they believed that Ukrainians would surrender right away, or be swiftly defeated), but I assumed that the Russian state would have had decent intelligence on the ground. But, it seems, their people in Ukraine were deceiving their Russian handlers, perhaps telling them what they wanted to hear.

    I agree with your implications of what a swift Russian victory would have meant. Russia would have instantly become much stronger. And agree with the rest that you wrote.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree. Her economy is becoming more balanced with agriculture, extractive industries, heavy industry, high tech industry and service sectors all playing important roles. Prior to the 2015 sanctions the Russian economy may have been unbalanced, though not to the degree of being a "gas station". Unless you mean a gas station with top 3 in the world aerospace and nuclear industries.

    Prior to 2014 I wonder if many Russian leaders still hoped the Russian-speaking CIS was a good model for the Russian speaking civilization? After the SMO the ties between Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will be supported by force but the general mindset may be more CIS-like. The character of this mindset may depend on the prevalence of Ukrainian terror attacks after the combat is over.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

  499. @QCIC
    "The myth that Putin was bent on conquering Ukraine..."

    Comments by John Mearsheimer on the early negotiations scuttled by the US-UK.

    https://original.antiwar.com/john-mearsheimer/2023/12/17/the-myth-that-putin-was-bent-on-conquering-ukraine-and-creating-a-greater-russia/

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Comments by John Mearsheimer on the early negotiations scuttled by the US-UK

    Let me point out that this particular train has left the station a long time ago and is not coming back. Anyone with a brain should know by now that Putin is 100% predictable. His second offer is always much worse for the opponent than the first. His third offer is usually an unconditional capitulation.

    The empire and its lowly Ukie servants have missed their chance. This is irreversible, like the life itself.

    • Agree: QCIC
  500. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    And how about Assange? Are you going to pretend he doesn’t exist? That is very mature…that’s the way to do it, pretend that anything that doesn’t fit doesn’t exist.

    Assange didn't have a warrant for criticizing the dictator or engaging in independent journalism. Do you deny that either can lead to prison time in Russia?

    He dumped classified military documents on the internet with the help of his tranny pal Manning.

    There is no legal right to publicizing classified documents.

    He didn't even know what was on the documents. He just dumped them for the sake of it.

    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes which included raping a woman while she was sleeping. The guy is a creep and not some freedom fighter. He has accusations from multiple women.

    Replies: @Beckow

    There is no legal right to publicizing classified documents.

    The politically persecuted people are always and everywhere charged with “leaking docs”, “working for a foreign power”, etc…never for criticism. Look into what the actual charges are, they are identical with Assange. If UK can, why Russia can’t? Navalny was also charged with a proven fraud, but it started with releasing classified docs on internet. Same stuff.

    You parroting the official line is why the West is in such a horrible bind – you lost the ability to think critically. You are conformist yes-man, it is almost amusing…Assange is a political prisoner….so how about the UK “democracy”? Works for some, but not for dissidents? And those demonstrators in jail for daring to protest in Congress? I guess it is a “sacred” spot, unlike parliaments all over the world…let’s try to imagine 1,000 people in jail for demonstrating in the Russian parliament. You would go nuts.

    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes

    No he didn’t – all those charges were dropped because they were bogus and only served to detain him so he couldn’t travel. You are quite despicable that you repeat it, must be the sense that you are defending a losing cause…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    The politically persecuted people are always and everywhere charged with “leaking docs”, “working for a foreign power”, etc…never for criticism.

    Are you suggesting that he did not commit multiple felonies by leaking thousands of classified military documents to the internet?

    Are you going to deny that there are Russians in prison for criticizing Putin? Do name someone in the US or Britain that is in prison for criticizing the government. Of course we all know you can't. That includes you.

    The best you can come up with is a malevolent rapist who dumped thousands of classified military documents on the internet and offered hacker for hire services to a totalitarian government that opposes free speech.

    Navalny was also charged with a proven fraud, but it started with releasing classified docs on internet. Same stuff.

    Where is Navalny and are you suggesting that he is in prison for an actual crime? You are going to take the position that Putin was justified in trying to kill him?

    You parroting the official line is why the West is in such a horrible bind – you lost the ability to think critically.

    I'm pointing out the laws. There is no right to dump classified military documents on the internet with the help of a deranged tranny. Should individuals have the right to dump classified information that belongs to other individuals? Or just the government? What position do you take?


    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes
     
    No he didn’t – all those charges were dropped because they were bogus and only served to detain him so he couldn’t travel

    Once again you have been caught making stuff up. He fled the charges and Sweden was unable to prosecute due to a technicality involving the embassy:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/julian-assange-explainer-819208/

    He exploited embassy protection to avoid rape charges. A real free speech hero.

    Replies: @Beckow

  501. @LatW
    @Beckow


    One example, that’s all I asked – and you failed.
     
    Sorry, I was busy - yes, there are political prisoners, plenty. One painful case is that of Alexey Gorinov, a local MP in Moscow, who was sentenced to 7 years for objecting to war. He's in prison now with health problems and they won't allow volunteer doctors to take care of him.

    Ilya Yashin, another political prisoner, wrote recently about the conditions he's been held in, in a prison cell the size of 3x4 meters, where he is not allowed to lay down during the day, not even on the floor, but only sit on a small chair, from 5am to 9pm, in cold. Several political prisoners are held in this way.

    And of course there is no competition among political parties in Russia (or any kind of real political competition).

    And how about Assange?
     

    He disclosed classified material. It's more of a security issue, not political.

    There are also a few hundred Americans in jail for years for a demonstration inside Capitol
     
    While I admit that some of them received what seems like unduly harsh sentences, it's not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.

    Replies: @Beckow

    I looked up Gorinov and he was sentenced for “knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations“…not for criticising Putin as you claimed.

    It is a bullsh.t charge and I disagree with it – but everywhere in the world, not just in Russia. Assange’s charge is identical – you just threw in “security” to justify it and Russians probably did too. Assange published docs that embarrassed the bosses that’s why he is in jail. Gorinov did the same. What’s the difference? Neither one was charged with criticising the president – that’s not a crime in Russia or in the West, don’t make up things.

    …there is no competition among political parties in Russia

    Gorinov fella got elected in Moscow as deputy for an opposition party, so no competition? You make up things. Using the same standard one can claim that there is “no competition” between the two parties in US: how exactly does that Indian woman (Haley?) differ from Biden? They look identical and the system would like that all politicians to be like them – in total agreement and causing no trouble. Fix your own issues first, that’s what decent people do….

    not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.

    How about all the “color” revolutions? They were all about storming parliaments, could the governments in those countries simply arrest thousands of demonstrators for “vandalism”? (Some actually did just like US, you are in good company…:)

    They were also not charged with “vandalism”, there wasn’t much of that. They were charged with “conspiracy to interfere with a government function”…one can charge any demonstrators anywhere in the world with that. US gave us a great “democratic” precedent.

    In Kiev the sentences for war opponents are significantly harsher. And in your Latvia not denouncing the Russian aggression is a crime. You need to apply the same standard.

    unduly harsh sentences

    Thousands were sentenced to years in prison for basically trespassing in Congress….and all you say is “unduly harsh”…try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn’t happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it…that’s no way to preach to others. You look like a loser and a hypocrite.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Thousands were sentenced to years in prison for basically trespassing in Congress
     
    Some were jailed for Jan 6 “riot” even though they weren’t even present in Washington on that day. Stalin’s show trials of the late 1930s pale in comparison to what “democrats” are doing with the “justice” system.
    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    Gorinov and he was sentenced for “knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations“…not for criticising Putin as you claimed.
     
    It's obvious that you simply do not follow the sources in either Russian or Ukrainian, because it is common knowledge that this is the "legal formulation" that is used to crack down on all war dissent. "Discreditation of the armed forces". This applies to criticizing government action (such as bombing your formerly close nation that you used to call "brothers"), as well as objecting to the military operation itself.

    You need to apply the same standard.
     
    No, because unlike RusFedia, neither Ukraine, nor Latvia have attacked or invaded another country.

    Replies: @Beckow, @WS

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn’t happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it…that’s no way to preach to others.
     
    The consequences are much worse in Russia for anyone demonstrating against government policies, etc. One demonstrator, Boris Nemtsov, that caught the ire of Putler met his untimely death before he even got to the kremlin, did you forget so soon:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/mcs/media/images/81305000/jpg/_81305527_026098139-1.jpg

    And what about Navalny and Kara-Murza being sentenced for what exactly? You may delude yourself that Russia is a nice, democratic country to live in, but that's about it, and even you would rather stay in Slovakia with easy passage to the West.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @Gerard1234

  502. @Beckow
    @LatW

    I looked up Gorinov and he was sentenced for "knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations"...not for criticising Putin as you claimed.

    It is a bullsh.t charge and I disagree with it - but everywhere in the world, not just in Russia. Assange's charge is identical - you just threw in "security" to justify it and Russians probably did too. Assange published docs that embarrassed the bosses that's why he is in jail. Gorinov did the same. What's the difference? Neither one was charged with criticising the president - that's not a crime in Russia or in the West, don't make up things.


    ...there is no competition among political parties in Russia
     
    Gorinov fella got elected in Moscow as deputy for an opposition party, so no competition? You make up things. Using the same standard one can claim that there is "no competition" between the two parties in US: how exactly does that Indian woman (Haley?) differ from Biden? They look identical and the system would like that all politicians to be like them - in total agreement and causing no trouble. Fix your own issues first, that's what decent people do....

    not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.
     
    How about all the "color" revolutions? They were all about storming parliaments, could the governments in those countries simply arrest thousands of demonstrators for "vandalism"? (Some actually did just like US, you are in good company...:)

    They were also not charged with "vandalism", there wasn't much of that. They were charged with "conspiracy to interfere with a government function"...one can charge any demonstrators anywhere in the world with that. US gave us a great "democratic" precedent.

    In Kiev the sentences for war opponents are significantly harsher. And in your Latvia not denouncing the Russian aggression is a crime. You need to apply the same standard.


    unduly harsh sentences
     
    Thousands were sentenced to years in prison for basically trespassing in Congress....and all you say is "unduly harsh"...try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn't happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it...that's no way to preach to others. You look like a loser and a hypocrite.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    Thousands were sentenced to years in prison for basically trespassing in Congress

    Some were jailed for Jan 6 “riot” even though they weren’t even present in Washington on that day. Stalin’s show trials of the late 1930s pale in comparison to what “democrats” are doing with the “justice” system.

  503. @Sean
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller,
     
    I don't think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness, especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe. In air power Nato is already even more dominant

    Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    Militarily, Russia is a clumsy stubborn power strongish in its nearest abroad that are not Nato members (ukraine). The energy sales for high prices (to the West) are dead. In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed. Putin could let the EC stew in its own juice, he certainly could not dream of attacking Nato, that is something his generals would tell him was a non-starter.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Philip Owen, @Cesar1191, @Derer

    In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed

    Germany investing more in its infrastructure and industry will be good for the German economy in the medium and long term. Germany needed to do this before 2022, and now they are being forced to increase their industrial capacity and generate more skilled factory jobs.

    Remember that Germany has its own military-industrial complex, so more money for the sector equals more German production. Germany is an exporter of military equipment, despite the fact that its military industry had atrophied. Now, with new investment, they may be able to breathe new life into an industry that they have traditionally excelled at.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Cesar1191

    In my view, Germany had a highly skilled workforce with strong unions making products that were consequently so expensive if valued in marks, the EC Single Currency had to be supported by the German taxpayer as a form of export subsidy. Although Germany will doubtless continue to is do good business supplying capital goods to China and perhaps a bigger arms industry will provide earning jobs too, in general Germany is likely to follow the UK into becoming a low wage, low skill, country that uses high immigration to keep wages from rising. They German government are in the process of altering the rules to attract immigrant labour; the prospects of the German working class are now grim.

  504. @AP
    @A123


    Russia has a functioning democracy
     
    Sort of. It is a more extreme form of American degradation.

    Zelensky cancelled elections, banned opposition parties
     
    He didn’t do it. It is in the constitution that there would be no elections during a war. How would they be run? Polling places in the battlefields would be easy targets, helping millions of refugees scattered abroad to vote would be logistically very difficult. Lots of those people would end up disenfranchised.

    Britain also cancelled elections during World War II and banned the pro-German British Union if Fascists. So it was not a democracy?

    took over media,
     
    Linked to Russia.

    and oppressed Orthodox churches

     

    Only those of the pro-Russian minority, linked to Moscow.

    During the American Revolution, the Americans took property from the Anglican Church and placed restrictions upon it. Was that also repressive, in your view? Did that mean the USA was a dictatorship?

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    During the American Revolution, the Americans took property from the Anglican Church and placed restrictions upon it. Was that also repressive, in your view? Did that mean the USA was a dictatorship?

    1. Anglican church formed when Henry 8th wanted to divorce his wife and marry another woman ( who he then beheaded) . That makes the English or British King the head of the church. Completely different situation to the Russian Orthodox Church you retarded scumbag. Not to mention the history of the Russian Orthodox Church in the land of Banderastan compared to an infant America with the Anglican, the autonomy of the church in Ukraine, the total repression of Orthodoxy by Polish retards ( which was the critical factor in the ROC making the Tsar buy Kiev from the Poles 350 years before- LOL zero “Ukraine” or “Ukrainians” to buy Kiev off) before Russia saved them, none of the senior priests openly supporting the SMO….not to mention the sheer evil of raiding these monasteries and churches

    2. That was 250 years ago you autistic freak ( who has never been to Ukraine or Russia or Europe). Before the world became industrialised – which only further proves the pathetic level of stupidity in your post. Italy’s role in WW2 did not make countries ban the Catholic Church you f**kup, or the British with Irish separatism, or DOCTOR Mugabe with the Anglican church after the British placed sanctions on the country. OR is Judaism banned in Iran. That perfectly sums up the ukroscum state of animals.

    During 1775 and 1776, the Continental Congress had issued decrees ordering churches to fast and pray on behalf of the Patriots.[9] Starting July 4, 1776, Congress and several states passed laws making prayers for the king and British Parliament acts of treason.

    Errr…..that perfectly proves my point you demented idiot.

    Britain also cancelled elections during World War II

    Britain formed a Unity government in WW2 you fantasist dogshit – making the “cancelled elections” an irrelevant point. A crucial fact in this one-sided annihilation of Banderastan starting is of course the fact that the drugaddict had Medvedchuk (among several others) arrested and charged before the SMO. This was after he had already played a big role in getting ukronazi terrorists caught in the Donbass from 2014-21, released back into 404.
    On the opposite situation, in 2014 the “unity” government being 90% composed of Galician failure freaks after the 2014 coup was also a huge factor, together with the satanic other actions, in the crimes against the people of Donbass starting and the reunification of Crimea.

    Linked to Russia

    As expected, a POS like you has ZERO idea what you are talking about. The product of a trillion hours stalking twitter, getting hemorrhoids, to write clueless copy and pasted nonsense. What ISNT linked to Russia in the entirely Russian created state of 404 would easier to ask you prick ( the flooding in Kiev metro being one of the few answers)

    Britain also cancelled elections during World War II and banned the pro-German British Union if Fascists.

    Errrr……..presumably that Party of fascists. were not even 0.1% as popular in UKas those banned in Ukraine you ridiculous cretin. LMAO. Zero MP’s versus 50 in Ukraine. No mayors in prominent cities, compared to several in Ukraine you POS.

  505. @Cesar1191
    @Sean


    In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed
     
    Germany investing more in its infrastructure and industry will be good for the German economy in the medium and long term. Germany needed to do this before 2022, and now they are being forced to increase their industrial capacity and generate more skilled factory jobs.

    Remember that Germany has its own military-industrial complex, so more money for the sector equals more German production. Germany is an exporter of military equipment, despite the fact that its military industry had atrophied. Now, with new investment, they may be able to breathe new life into an industry that they have traditionally excelled at.

    Replies: @Sean

    In my view, Germany had a highly skilled workforce with strong unions making products that were consequently so expensive if valued in marks, the EC Single Currency had to be supported by the German taxpayer as a form of export subsidy. Although Germany will doubtless continue to is do good business supplying capital goods to China and perhaps a bigger arms industry will provide earning jobs too, in general Germany is likely to follow the UK into becoming a low wage, low skill, country that uses high immigration to keep wages from rising. They German government are in the process of altering the rules to attract immigrant labour; the prospects of the German working class are now grim.

  506. @AP
    @Cesar1191


    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022?
     
    I was a bit off. Maybe more like 32-35 million.

    Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia’s population close to 200 million
     
    This is what would have happened if everything had gone as planned. But Ukrainians did not cooperate.

    My biggest surprise was that Russia stupidly did not anticipate massive and strong resistance. I get that silly and naive Russia fanboys who live in the West would assume a fairly swift Russian victory (they believed that Ukrainians would surrender right away, or be swiftly defeated), but I assumed that the Russian state would have had decent intelligence on the ground. But, it seems, their people in Ukraine were deceiving their Russian handlers, perhaps telling them what they wanted to hear.

    I agree with your implications of what a swift Russian victory would have meant. Russia would have instantly become much stronger. And agree with the rest that you wrote.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree. Her economy is becoming more balanced with agriculture, extractive industries, heavy industry, high tech industry and service sectors all playing important roles. Prior to the 2015 sanctions the Russian economy may have been unbalanced, though not to the degree of being a “gas station”. Unless you mean a gas station with top 3 in the world aerospace and nuclear industries.

    Prior to 2014 I wonder if many Russian leaders still hoped the Russian-speaking CIS was a good model for the Russian speaking civilization? After the SMO the ties between Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will be supported by force but the general mindset may be more CIS-like. The character of this mindset may depend on the prevalence of Ukrainian terror attacks after the combat is over.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree
     
    Russia has a GDP of $1.8 trillion and Japan has a GDP of $4.9 trillion.

    As usual, you dwell in fantasy.

    But Russia may surpass Italy ($2.1 trillion) if things go well for it.

    Russia does better with GDP PPP but that is less relevant for such comparisons. Even on this measure, while Russia is not far behind Germany (“only” $500 billion), it is far behind Japan ($1.5 trillion).

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree.

    Isn't it a bit early to be snorting cope?

    Putin makes and breaks oligarchs as part of his rule. Did you miss that he started the war with his chef turned private billionaire warlord? That's an oligarch. He was exploiting his position with Putin to milk government funds. Those weren't open contracts. He would still be Prigozhin the restaurateur if he didn't meet Putin.

    Russian industry is still ruled by oligarchs that go back to the fall of the USSR. It's a mafia government where billionaires are still made simply by having former KGB connections to Putin.

    Her economy is becoming more balanced with agriculture, extractive industries, heavy industry, high tech industry and service sectors all playing important roles.

    You believe they will pass Japan economically even though they have an egg shortage?

    Prior to the 2015 sanctions the Russian economy may have been unbalanced, though not to the degree of being a “gas station”. Unless you mean a gas station with top 3 in the world aerospace and nuclear industries.

    Top 3 by what measure? Yes everyone is so impressed with the Russian aerospace industry and their grounded planes due to Western sanctions:
    https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/08/08/russia-forced-to-strip-grounded-aircraft-for-parts-as-western-sanctions-over-ukraine-bite-

    You think companies are going to line up for Russian planes after this war is over?

    This war has affirmed that Russia is a culture of lies. I'd never fly in a plane that is certified by the Russian government. What does that mean? Borris the inspector was paid off properly in vodka?

    Both California and Texas have a larger GDP than Russia. The last thing the Russian economy needed was a war. They'll be saddled with billions in medical and pension payments for years. And for what? The ruins of Donbas? Now populated with Asian immigrants? Will that be the basis of the Donbas economy? Asian migrants and Slavic widows? Hilarious how the White nationalist of Unz have rallied around Putin and he is now replacing Slavs with Asians. Idiots.

    When we get real GDP numbers (not artificially inflated from short term government spending) I have no doubt their GDP will be below Mexico. We already know their productivity is down from a lack of men ages 18-30. Watch as they bring in immigrants after the war which is why there are so many Turks in Germany. They had to bring in non-Whites because their White nationalist dictator killed so many White men.

    Replies: @QCIC

  507. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    There is no legal right to publicizing classified documents.
     
    The politically persecuted people are always and everywhere charged with "leaking docs", "working for a foreign power", etc...never for criticism. Look into what the actual charges are, they are identical with Assange. If UK can, why Russia can't? Navalny was also charged with a proven fraud, but it started with releasing classified docs on internet. Same stuff.

    You parroting the official line is why the West is in such a horrible bind - you lost the ability to think critically. You are conformist yes-man, it is almost amusing...Assange is a political prisoner....so how about the UK "democracy"? Works for some, but not for dissidents? And those demonstrators in jail for daring to protest in Congress? I guess it is a "sacred" spot, unlike parliaments all over the world...let's try to imagine 1,000 people in jail for demonstrating in the Russian parliament. You would go nuts.


    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes
     
    No he didn't - all those charges were dropped because they were bogus and only served to detain him so he couldn't travel. You are quite despicable that you repeat it, must be the sense that you are defending a losing cause...

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The politically persecuted people are always and everywhere charged with “leaking docs”, “working for a foreign power”, etc…never for criticism.

    Are you suggesting that he did not commit multiple felonies by leaking thousands of classified military documents to the internet?

    Are you going to deny that there are Russians in prison for criticizing Putin? Do name someone in the US or Britain that is in prison for criticizing the government. Of course we all know you can’t. That includes you.

    The best you can come up with is a malevolent rapist who dumped thousands of classified military documents on the internet and offered hacker for hire services to a totalitarian government that opposes free speech.

    Navalny was also charged with a proven fraud, but it started with releasing classified docs on internet. Same stuff.

    Where is Navalny and are you suggesting that he is in prison for an actual crime? You are going to take the position that Putin was justified in trying to kill him?

    You parroting the official line is why the West is in such a horrible bind – you lost the ability to think critically.

    I’m pointing out the laws. There is no right to dump classified military documents on the internet with the help of a deranged tranny. Should individuals have the right to dump classified information that belongs to other individuals? Or just the government? What position do you take?

    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes

    No he didn’t – all those charges were dropped because they were bogus and only served to detain him so he couldn’t travel

    Once again you have been caught making stuff up. He fled the charges and Sweden was unable to prosecute due to a technicality involving the embassy:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/julian-assange-explainer-819208/

    He exploited embassy protection to avoid rape charges. A real free speech hero.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    You repeat the desperate subjective nonsense like a conformist parrot you are. Address what I actually said and not a straw-man. But you can't - I asked for a single case of somebody in jail "for criticising Putin" and you couldn't come up with one.

    Navalny was charged with releasing "classified information", fraud and serving a foreign power. If Assange can be charged with it and be in jail for 10 years that you fully support, why are you so excited about others doing the same?

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what? Underwear novichok "tested" miraculously in Berlin after he survived? Really? That's like people going on about CIA killing JFK, or Blair killing Robin Cook - it is all speculation based on weak evidence.

    It is very easy to call something "classified" and charge people with publishing it whether it is Assange or Navalny (or way back NY Times publishing Pentagon papers - also should go to jail?) I think even Trump is charged with it. But you only see it in Russia, not at home.

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress? You will pretend that it is not happening? Tell me what would you say if the same scenario happened in Moscow: thousands pro-Western liberals break into the Russian Parliament and shout slogans for a few hours, march around with placards, keep people from timely "voting" - and then they are all charged and thousands of them are put in prison for years. Would that be ok? So why is it ok in Washington? Don't hide behind "law" - laws are interpreted and abused. That's how it works.

    If you don't address it, I will assume you have nothing to say and are just an ignorant shill for the causes that you belioev in. And kind of a fool.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

  508. @Dmitry
    @AP


    It’s a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transport
     
    Which is the world's best metro system. Building the world's most complicated system of tunnels under soil is not what I would call the most non-ant, non-termite behavior,

    The utopian life for the tree monkey from the tropical forests. 10 million souls (more than world's human population when modern agriculture begins), going in underground tunnels, monumentalist buildings representing political power and royal wealth of the Queen of the hive which is unaccessible for 99,9%, but controls many parts of the life of 100% although with different extents depending on their role in the hive.

    Some aspects of Moscow are like the most accurate emulations of the hive colony. Queen of the ant lives in the center of hive and controls the ants in the outer parts of the hive using pheromone signals, in this example humans are using communication encoded in the electromagnetic radiation to emulate the ants' signaling. At the end of the year this Queen even sits in the center of the hive and gives signals for four hours, which is reproduced visually and transmitted electromagnetically to the tens of millions of the hive.

    If you want the more simple answer. I think it's one of the more high reward places for doing culture tourism, especially in the summer. For living? Only if I was at least upper middle class and had tall ceilings.


    in my wife’s family’s flat in a Stalin building with very thick walls. It is silent inside, with the windows closed. Ceilings are very tall
     
    I agree the tall ceilings and the quiet neighbors are important to reduce alienation.

    Except when I was too young to be caring, I was growing up in one of the more "elite" projects and this has a kind of curse as it probably reduced my tolerances for small spaces now. What is the effect of this? Why as a human, who had ancestors living freely in the forests, do we want large rooms and the tall ceiling? Not just as status, but actually as a comfort in life.

    It's because it creates an illusion you are outside. With a higher proportional of visual angles you don't see the higher ceiling above you in comparison with the lower ceiling. You have a higher proportion of your time forgeting you are inside a box.

    If you combine the luxury housing, with the center of a city. You have preserved of the more natural aspects of life, while having also more of the convenience of the insect colony. Luxury housing in the city - it's a relative optimization between those values.


    lived in the USA and to have a mutual connection, who told me Clooney and his wife were regular customers/friends.

     

    It can't be too bad as a place, if also Berlusconi was living in the zone.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119643/Idyllic-views-30-rooms-George-Clooney-neighbour--great-place-bunga-bunga-parties-Berlusconi-splashes-Lake-Como-playboy-pad.html
     

    Replies: @AP

    It’s a termite colony with great theater, decent restaurants, probably best public transport

    Which is the world’s best metro system. Building the world’s most complicated system of tunnels under soil is not what I would call the most non-ant, non-termite behavior

    Moscow’s above ground rail lines have been built up also. As I had mentioned, the elektrichka that goes out to dacha country is now fully modernized, even has bathrooms on the train cars, and there are many trains so they no go every few minutes versus every 30 or so in the past. And this was improved under Sobyanin recently, during Covid and the war.

    Such improvement is bitter when considering the suffering and misery out in the provinces during this same time. But keeping the millions in the capital satisfied and pleased is good for stability.

    Your hive analogy is a clever one, and appreciated.

    If you want the more simple answer. I think it’s one of the more high reward places for doing culture tourism, especially in the summer

    I know you find Moscow’s winter decorations to be vulgar, but I think they are charming. And there is more theater in winter. The nice thing about a huge great city is that it is relatively immune to seasonal effects on enjoyment: plenty to do indoors.

    Except when I was too young to be caring, I was growing up in one of the more “elite” projects and this has a kind of curse as it probably reduced my tolerances for small spaces now. What is the effect of this? Why as a human, who had ancestors living freely in the forests, do we want large rooms and the tall ceiling? Not just as status, but actually as a comfort in life

    Absolutely. It is why I could never live in New York – I am not rich enough to have a place with appropriate indoor space there, and other than Central Park the place is too closed in. So I live in a smaller town where I can have a Victorian house with tall ceilings and gardens around.

    Chicago is superior to New York in this way. It also has urban termite mounds in the centre and near the lake, but also has many late 19th century neighbourhoods full of graystone houses, green boulevards, and parks. This is where most people in the city live. The most pleasant great and real American city, sadly getting ruined by progressive politicians.

    It can’t be too bad as a place, if also Berlusconi was living in the zone.

    The Italian Lakes are a sort of paradise.

  509. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    The politically persecuted people are always and everywhere charged with “leaking docs”, “working for a foreign power”, etc…never for criticism.

    Are you suggesting that he did not commit multiple felonies by leaking thousands of classified military documents to the internet?

    Are you going to deny that there are Russians in prison for criticizing Putin? Do name someone in the US or Britain that is in prison for criticizing the government. Of course we all know you can't. That includes you.

    The best you can come up with is a malevolent rapist who dumped thousands of classified military documents on the internet and offered hacker for hire services to a totalitarian government that opposes free speech.

    Navalny was also charged with a proven fraud, but it started with releasing classified docs on internet. Same stuff.

    Where is Navalny and are you suggesting that he is in prison for an actual crime? You are going to take the position that Putin was justified in trying to kill him?

    You parroting the official line is why the West is in such a horrible bind – you lost the ability to think critically.

    I'm pointing out the laws. There is no right to dump classified military documents on the internet with the help of a deranged tranny. Should individuals have the right to dump classified information that belongs to other individuals? Or just the government? What position do you take?


    Assange later committed multiple sex crimes
     
    No he didn’t – all those charges were dropped because they were bogus and only served to detain him so he couldn’t travel

    Once again you have been caught making stuff up. He fled the charges and Sweden was unable to prosecute due to a technicality involving the embassy:
    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/julian-assange-explainer-819208/

    He exploited embassy protection to avoid rape charges. A real free speech hero.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You repeat the desperate subjective nonsense like a conformist parrot you are. Address what I actually said and not a straw-man. But you can’t – I asked for a single case of somebody in jail “for criticising Putin” and you couldn’t come up with one.

    Navalny was charged with releasing “classified information”, fraud and serving a foreign power. If Assange can be charged with it and be in jail for 10 years that you fully support, why are you so excited about others doing the same?

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what? Underwear novichok “tested” miraculously in Berlin after he survived? Really? That’s like people going on about CIA killing JFK, or Blair killing Robin Cook – it is all speculation based on weak evidence.

    It is very easy to call something “classified” and charge people with publishing it whether it is Assange or Navalny (or way back NY Times publishing Pentagon papers – also should go to jail?) I think even Trump is charged with it. But you only see it in Russia, not at home.

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress? You will pretend that it is not happening? Tell me what would you say if the same scenario happened in Moscow: thousands pro-Western liberals break into the Russian Parliament and shout slogans for a few hours, march around with placards, keep people from timely “voting” – and then they are all charged and thousands of them are put in prison for years. Would that be ok? So why is it ok in Washington? Don’t hide behind “law” – laws are interpreted and abused. That’s how it works.

    If you don’t address it, I will assume you have nothing to say and are just an ignorant shill for the causes that you belioev in. And kind of a fool.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress?
     
    The total number of people accused of entering the building is 1,200 and the number of people charged with something is over 1,100 - not “thousands.”

    Even when you make a point that has some validity, you lie.

    They were not arrested merely for demonstrating but for trespassing, vandalism, and other crimes. It is normal for people to be penalised or fined for such actions such as breaking windows.

    Of course there was a lot that was shameful about the government response. Many of them were given unjustly long sentences that reek of political persecution. And the contrast with the lack of prosecutions for the BLM riots is very notable.

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @LatW
    @Beckow


    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what?
     
    On the current prison conditions.
    , @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    You repeat the desperate subjective nonsense like a conformist parrot you are. Address what I actually said and not a straw-man. But you can’t – I asked for a single case of somebody in jail “for criticising Putin” and you couldn’t come up with one.

    I don't have to make up anything. I don't have to bullshit for a mass murdering midget and his totalitarian empire. That's your burden.

    Russia sentences opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza to 25 years in prison
    https://www.npr.org/2023/04/17/1168667764/vladimir-kara-murza-prison-sentence

    Navalny was charged with releasing “classified information”, fraud and serving a foreign power.

    So you believe that was a legitimate charge and humans rights organizations are wrong about him being a political prisoner? Where is Nalvany? Did Putin make him disappear or do you think the prisons actually lost him?

    If Assange can be charged with it and be in jail for 10 years that you fully support, why are you so excited about others doing the same?

    I never said he should be in jail for 10 years. I said he committed multiple felonies for releasing classified Federal documents to the internet.

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what? Underwear novichok “tested” miraculously in Berlin after he survived?

    Yes he survived being poisoned by an extremely rare nerve agent developed by the USSR. You are telling us it wasn't Putin? Are the other critics that have been poisoned part of some conspiracy?

    It is very easy to call something “classified” and charge people with publishing it whether it is Assange or Navalny (or way back NY Times publishing Pentagon papers – also should go to jail?)

    Why are you quoting the word classified? You are denying they are classified documents? It isn't a subjective matter. They were classified and there were thousands of them. If you think that shouldn't be against the law then state your case. But it isn't a subjective matter on their classification. He released thousands of classified documents to the internet and without knowing what was on them. Should people be allowed to release classified government documents that could potentially contain private information of individuals?

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress?

    No one was arrested for demonstrating outside of Congress.

    People were arrested for felony trespassing, throwing rocks at the police, throwing a pole at the police, spraying the police with pepper spray, etc. That was incredibly stupid and not a peaceful protest.

    There is no right to throw rocks at the police and force yourself into a Federal building.

    The fact that you have bring up Assange or Jan 6th to defend the midget and his totalitarian state is pathetic. If you want I can repost the 1420 video where Russians admit that their state is totalitarian and they don't have the right to criticize the government.

  510. @QCIC
    @AP

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree. Her economy is becoming more balanced with agriculture, extractive industries, heavy industry, high tech industry and service sectors all playing important roles. Prior to the 2015 sanctions the Russian economy may have been unbalanced, though not to the degree of being a "gas station". Unless you mean a gas station with top 3 in the world aerospace and nuclear industries.

    Prior to 2014 I wonder if many Russian leaders still hoped the Russian-speaking CIS was a good model for the Russian speaking civilization? After the SMO the ties between Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will be supported by force but the general mindset may be more CIS-like. The character of this mindset may depend on the prevalence of Ukrainian terror attacks after the combat is over.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree

    Russia has a GDP of $1.8 trillion and Japan has a GDP of $4.9 trillion.

    As usual, you dwell in fantasy.

    But Russia may surpass Italy ($2.1 trillion) if things go well for it.

    Russia does better with GDP PPP but that is less relevant for such comparisons. Even on this measure, while Russia is not far behind Germany (“only” $500 billion), it is far behind Japan ($1.5 trillion).

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    Ha, ha. I wrote that a bit strongly to stir you guys up :) I think in terms of PPP. The idea is that Russia is potentially at a point where her economy may grow faster than many others as a form of delayed catch-up. If dollar-related economic troubles flare up the swings in economic rankings could be greater than some people expect. It is the future, so who knows?

    As far as the prosperity of Moscow is concerned (metro, etc.), do outsiders see similar progressive improvement across the country of Russia? I have seen some pictures from Vladivostok and Siberian cities which show improvement. These areas are less prosperous and are starting from a lower standard so the visible result is not world-class like the big cities in the West of the country. The relative improvement may be greater.

  511. @QCIC
    @AP

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree. Her economy is becoming more balanced with agriculture, extractive industries, heavy industry, high tech industry and service sectors all playing important roles. Prior to the 2015 sanctions the Russian economy may have been unbalanced, though not to the degree of being a "gas station". Unless you mean a gas station with top 3 in the world aerospace and nuclear industries.

    Prior to 2014 I wonder if many Russian leaders still hoped the Russian-speaking CIS was a good model for the Russian speaking civilization? After the SMO the ties between Russia, Ukraine and Belarus will be supported by force but the general mindset may be more CIS-like. The character of this mindset may depend on the prevalence of Ukrainian terror attacks after the combat is over.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree.

    Isn’t it a bit early to be snorting cope?

    Putin makes and breaks oligarchs as part of his rule. Did you miss that he started the war with his chef turned private billionaire warlord? That’s an oligarch. He was exploiting his position with Putin to milk government funds. Those weren’t open contracts. He would still be Prigozhin the restaurateur if he didn’t meet Putin.

    Russian industry is still ruled by oligarchs that go back to the fall of the USSR. It’s a mafia government where billionaires are still made simply by having former KGB connections to Putin.

    Her economy is becoming more balanced with agriculture, extractive industries, heavy industry, high tech industry and service sectors all playing important roles.

    You believe they will pass Japan economically even though they have an egg shortage?

    Prior to the 2015 sanctions the Russian economy may have been unbalanced, though not to the degree of being a “gas station”. Unless you mean a gas station with top 3 in the world aerospace and nuclear industries.

    Top 3 by what measure? Yes everyone is so impressed with the Russian aerospace industry and their grounded planes due to Western sanctions:
    https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/08/08/russia-forced-to-strip-grounded-aircraft-for-parts-as-western-sanctions-over-ukraine-bite-

    You think companies are going to line up for Russian planes after this war is over?

    This war has affirmed that Russia is a culture of lies. I’d never fly in a plane that is certified by the Russian government. What does that mean? Borris the inspector was paid off properly in vodka?

    Both California and Texas have a larger GDP than Russia. The last thing the Russian economy needed was a war. They’ll be saddled with billions in medical and pension payments for years. And for what? The ruins of Donbas? Now populated with Asian immigrants? Will that be the basis of the Donbas economy? Asian migrants and Slavic widows? Hilarious how the White nationalist of Unz have rallied around Putin and he is now replacing Slavs with Asians. Idiots.

    When we get real GDP numbers (not artificially inflated from short term government spending) I have no doubt their GDP will be below Mexico. We already know their productivity is down from a lack of men ages 18-30. Watch as they bring in immigrants after the war which is why there are so many Turks in Germany. They had to bring in non-Whites because their White nationalist dictator killed so many White men.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    California and Texas are great examples of broad-based economies with good balance, though California is fading. Unfortunately both states are being overrun with immigrants who probably could not have created the prosperous economies which exist in those states.

    I agree that Ukraine and Russia have very visible corruption which holds them back. This factor is becoming more obvious in the USA as well.

    From what I see, Mexico develops almost nothing without outside help. The country is just the convenient answer for the outsource question: cheaper/farther (China) or more expensive/closer (Mexico)? Don't get me wrong, I think they do OK but the potential is limited. For modern Mexican successes I think of avocados and silver mining. This may change and I hope they keep improving.

    My guess is the SMO may help Russia rebuild the "hollowed out" middle of their industrial economy which in my view includes sectors such as cars, machine tools (capital equipment in general), electronics, etc. For the near-term I think they can do well with internal import replacement business. The long-term export situation may depend on the dollar economy vs BRICS.

    As far as Russian airlines go, the trouble you mention is a direct and intended result of sanctions so it is not surprising. The very protracted development of the indigenous SSJ100 and MC-21 airliners seems to be partially due to Western partners (frenemies). Both programs seem to finally be on track, but ramping up quickly to 100 civilian aircraft deliveries per year will be a serious challenge. The SSJ100 is roughly comparable to the 'Airbus' A220, the MC-21 is comparable to the Airbus A320Neo. The SSJ does have a major safety blot from the Moscow crash which was weird on several levels.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  512. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Dmitry

    Spotify has deleted a third of the Rogan archive including every single episode I ever searched for. They can be found on archive.org.

    They cannot keep my password active for more than one use. Every time I use it I have to click the "forgot password" box, open an e-mail, click the new password widget, give them a new password, then one more click to get the content I was interested in. Perhaps I am the only one stuck in this software hell but it is a strong incentive to have nothing to do with spotify ever again.

    They give the data on all your listens to the NSA.

    They don't create anything. They aggregate and serve it you conveniently for money. Fuck spotify.

    Replies: @Mikel

    They cannot keep my password active for more than one use. Every time I use it I have to click the “forgot password” box, open an e-mail, click the new password widget, give them a new password, then one more click to get the content I was interested in.

    But isn’t every website doing some variation of that these days? It’s the new trend.

    Yesterday I could only order my son’s school lunch for the next month after 5 attempts to get past their captcha. I couldn’t figure out which squares they considered to have “motorcycles” or “zebra crossings”, or whether parts thereof were considered a correct answer. But it’s all for our own good. Imagine the horror if someone decides to impersonate me in order to choose the sandwiches instead of the hot meals. No amount of security is enough to prevent that.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikel

    Electronic communications such as you mention are fundamentally insecure and are a product of a high trust society. Since we no longer have a high trust society, people are still learning how to proceed.

    Have you tried the food at your kid's school? Maybe they are doing you a favor.

    Replies: @Mikel

  513. @AP
    @QCIC


    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree
     
    Russia has a GDP of $1.8 trillion and Japan has a GDP of $4.9 trillion.

    As usual, you dwell in fantasy.

    But Russia may surpass Italy ($2.1 trillion) if things go well for it.

    Russia does better with GDP PPP but that is less relevant for such comparisons. Even on this measure, while Russia is not far behind Germany (“only” $500 billion), it is far behind Japan ($1.5 trillion).

    Replies: @QCIC

    Ha, ha. I wrote that a bit strongly to stir you guys up 🙂 I think in terms of PPP. The idea is that Russia is potentially at a point where her economy may grow faster than many others as a form of delayed catch-up. If dollar-related economic troubles flare up the swings in economic rankings could be greater than some people expect. It is the future, so who knows?

    As far as the prosperity of Moscow is concerned (metro, etc.), do outsiders see similar progressive improvement across the country of Russia? I have seen some pictures from Vladivostok and Siberian cities which show improvement. These areas are less prosperous and are starting from a lower standard so the visible result is not world-class like the big cities in the West of the country. The relative improvement may be greater.

  514. @Mikel
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    They cannot keep my password active for more than one use. Every time I use it I have to click the “forgot password” box, open an e-mail, click the new password widget, give them a new password, then one more click to get the content I was interested in.
     
    But isn't every website doing some variation of that these days? It's the new trend.

    Yesterday I could only order my son's school lunch for the next month after 5 attempts to get past their captcha. I couldn't figure out which squares they considered to have "motorcycles" or "zebra crossings", or whether parts thereof were considered a correct answer. But it's all for our own good. Imagine the horror if someone decides to impersonate me in order to choose the sandwiches instead of the hot meals. No amount of security is enough to prevent that.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Electronic communications such as you mention are fundamentally insecure and are a product of a high trust society. Since we no longer have a high trust society, people are still learning how to proceed.

    Have you tried the food at your kid’s school? Maybe they are doing you a favor.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @QCIC


    Since we no longer have a high trust society, people are still learning how to proceed.
     
    I'm not sure this is about living in a high trust society or not. The hacker movement has its origins in the highest trust societies of the world. But the solution they are all converging on of making authentication for the most trivial tasks as painful as possible, if not quasi-impossible, looks quite retarded. The wild internet of the 90s was so much more appealing.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN

  515. @Beckow
    @LatW

    I looked up Gorinov and he was sentenced for "knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations"...not for criticising Putin as you claimed.

    It is a bullsh.t charge and I disagree with it - but everywhere in the world, not just in Russia. Assange's charge is identical - you just threw in "security" to justify it and Russians probably did too. Assange published docs that embarrassed the bosses that's why he is in jail. Gorinov did the same. What's the difference? Neither one was charged with criticising the president - that's not a crime in Russia or in the West, don't make up things.


    ...there is no competition among political parties in Russia
     
    Gorinov fella got elected in Moscow as deputy for an opposition party, so no competition? You make up things. Using the same standard one can claim that there is "no competition" between the two parties in US: how exactly does that Indian woman (Haley?) differ from Biden? They look identical and the system would like that all politicians to be like them - in total agreement and causing no trouble. Fix your own issues first, that's what decent people do....

    not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.
     
    How about all the "color" revolutions? They were all about storming parliaments, could the governments in those countries simply arrest thousands of demonstrators for "vandalism"? (Some actually did just like US, you are in good company...:)

    They were also not charged with "vandalism", there wasn't much of that. They were charged with "conspiracy to interfere with a government function"...one can charge any demonstrators anywhere in the world with that. US gave us a great "democratic" precedent.

    In Kiev the sentences for war opponents are significantly harsher. And in your Latvia not denouncing the Russian aggression is a crime. You need to apply the same standard.


    unduly harsh sentences
     
    Thousands were sentenced to years in prison for basically trespassing in Congress....and all you say is "unduly harsh"...try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn't happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it...that's no way to preach to others. You look like a loser and a hypocrite.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    Gorinov and he was sentenced for “knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations“…not for criticising Putin as you claimed.

    It’s obvious that you simply do not follow the sources in either Russian or Ukrainian, because it is common knowledge that this is the “legal formulation” that is used to crack down on all war dissent. “Discreditation of the armed forces”. This applies to criticizing government action (such as bombing your formerly close nation that you used to call “brothers”), as well as objecting to the military operation itself.

    You need to apply the same standard.

    No, because unlike RusFedia, neither Ukraine, nor Latvia have attacked or invaded another country.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @LatW

    If you are unwilling to apply the same standard why do you discuss anything? You could just stand on a corner and yell that you hate Russia. It is meaningless, like being an animal with strong feelings and no brain. By the way, Ukraine attacked Donbas and tried to attack Crimea - so you are wrong even about your skewed logic.


    this is the “legal formulation” that is used to crack down on all war dissent.
     
    So now you are interpreting it for us....wow. Can we do that elsewhere? What is the real meaning of charging Assange if the "leaking documents" is only a "legal formulation"? Dissent? Embarrassing Hillary Clinton and her gang?

    Nobody in Russia has been charged with "criticising Putin"....you can't come up with a single case. Instead you bullsh..t that "A doesn't really mean A" in Russia - it is whatever you want it to be.

    You should read Alice in Wonderland for what that says about you. But you don't seem much of a reader...

    , @WS
    @LatW


    No, because unlike RusFedia, neither Ukraine, nor Latvia have attacked or invaded another country.
     
    TRUE: Zelensky is killing his own people
  516. @QCIC
    @Mikel

    Electronic communications such as you mention are fundamentally insecure and are a product of a high trust society. Since we no longer have a high trust society, people are still learning how to proceed.

    Have you tried the food at your kid's school? Maybe they are doing you a favor.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Since we no longer have a high trust society, people are still learning how to proceed.

    I’m not sure this is about living in a high trust society or not. The hacker movement has its origins in the highest trust societies of the world. But the solution they are all converging on of making authentication for the most trivial tasks as painful as possible, if not quasi-impossible, looks quite retarded. The wild internet of the 90s was so much more appealing.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikel

    I assume current AI can easily beat the recognize the picture test, this just hasn't trickled down yet. I don't know about the tests with distorted text. For the hard cases, AI can probably do better than a human.

    Even in a high trust society there is always a balance between good and bad. With software I think the vast sums to be made tip the balance in the wrong direction. I'm sure things will be fine once we are chipped and our social credit scores can be properly tracked.

    Hackers may be the only thing which can save us from the Matrix, even if they are doing it for the 'wrong reasons'!

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Mikel


    The wild internet of the 90s was so much more appealing.
     
    The past has passed, hence the name.
  517. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

     

    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022? Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia's population close to 200 million.

    That would be a serious boost. This population increase would have allowed Russia to overtake the Japanese economy and become the undisputed largest economy in Europe, in PPP terms, even assuming that Russia was only able to slightly increase its current GDP per capita. And of course, there are all kinds of advantages to economies of scale. Such a Russia would have a much better ability to create spheres of influence and keep other powers out.

    If you're thinking of a way to reverse Russia's geopolitical decline, this was a decent plan, assuming Russia's elite were competent enough to be able to execute it. The problem would be the sanctions regime and the impact on Russia's long-term growth, but I guess one can try to argue that there are ways around that, if one is competent enough.

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

     

    NATO wouldn't need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia. Failure to do so would be credibility ruining for the US, UK and others.

    The real danger is if the US leaves NATO, because that basically ends the alliance. Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion. This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

    NATO wouldn’t need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia.

    The problem is that the logistics are too slow (as we saw in Ukraine war, granted that’s very different than a NATO country, with a NATO country they would act much more swiftly, but we saw that the Abrams tank travels 9 months). All the assets need to be in place already now, and access denial needs to be established within the next 3-5 years or so (which is being worked on right now).

    Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion

    This might be the scenario that Russia is calculating for and counting on (but not the only one probably). For the war to start in the Pacific and for the US to simply not be available. This is why everything needs to be in place, in advance. A combined British and Norwegian air force can be used to swoop in and take out most targets early during the attack. Poles will have an air force, too.

    This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.

    It’s not just the issue of America’s political problems (and the logistics issue), it’s a matter of self respect and basic security. There is a significant amount of Nordic investment in the Baltics and all kinds of EU infrastructure projects.

    Btw, if Russia takes over Ukraine (not likely, more likely the war, if it is not finished next year when F16s arrive, it will drag out for years in various forms), they may not attack the Baltics first, but Moldova and Georgia (easier targets). But not that it matters for the big picture of European security.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    When Russia wraps up the SMO and the dust settles, the internal political situation in places like Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and even Finland may change a lot. The anti-Russia sellout politicians in those countries poised to make the next Ukraine-style mistake will be discredited and pro-neutrality moderates may come to power.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  518. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    You repeat the desperate subjective nonsense like a conformist parrot you are. Address what I actually said and not a straw-man. But you can't - I asked for a single case of somebody in jail "for criticising Putin" and you couldn't come up with one.

    Navalny was charged with releasing "classified information", fraud and serving a foreign power. If Assange can be charged with it and be in jail for 10 years that you fully support, why are you so excited about others doing the same?

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what? Underwear novichok "tested" miraculously in Berlin after he survived? Really? That's like people going on about CIA killing JFK, or Blair killing Robin Cook - it is all speculation based on weak evidence.

    It is very easy to call something "classified" and charge people with publishing it whether it is Assange or Navalny (or way back NY Times publishing Pentagon papers - also should go to jail?) I think even Trump is charged with it. But you only see it in Russia, not at home.

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress? You will pretend that it is not happening? Tell me what would you say if the same scenario happened in Moscow: thousands pro-Western liberals break into the Russian Parliament and shout slogans for a few hours, march around with placards, keep people from timely "voting" - and then they are all charged and thousands of them are put in prison for years. Would that be ok? So why is it ok in Washington? Don't hide behind "law" - laws are interpreted and abused. That's how it works.

    If you don't address it, I will assume you have nothing to say and are just an ignorant shill for the causes that you belioev in. And kind of a fool.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress?

    The total number of people accused of entering the building is 1,200 and the number of people charged with something is over 1,100 – not “thousands.”

    Even when you make a point that has some validity, you lie.

    They were not arrested merely for demonstrating but for trespassing, vandalism, and other crimes. It is normal for people to be penalised or fined for such actions such as breaking windows.

    Of course there was a lot that was shameful about the government response. Many of them were given unjustly long sentences that reek of political persecution. And the contrast with the lack of prosecutions for the BLM riots is very notable.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Let me understand, 1,100 people were charged, but it is incorrect to use the term "thousands"? Because why? Because 1,100 is less than a thousand? Or your autistic mind objects to the ending "s"?...You forgot again to take your pill.


    not arrested merely for demonstrating but for trespassing, vandalism, and other crimes. It is normal for people to be penalised or fined for such actions such as breaking windows.
     
    How many windows were broken? 1,100 or maybe 2 or 3? And in US people serve lengthy prison sentences for breaking windows? What is this Middle Ages?

    Trespassing is a misdemeanor and people in normal countries don't serve years in prison for it. Some minor vandalism, but no fires and massive destruction like at the BLM protests, a few broken windows, but 1,100 n prison? Are they mad?

    So what were the "other crimes" they were charged with? Can you be specific? This was a demonstration, in demos all around the world all kinds of things happen (sometimes by paid provocateurs), it is normal. But can you imagine that in Moscow or Berlin thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years? This is not a minor blemish, this is quite damning. And the Johnson guy is fully on-board with it, did he get lost when he found Unz? This is primarily a free speech platform...

    Replies: @AP

  519. @Beckow
    @LatW

    I looked up Gorinov and he was sentenced for "knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations"...not for criticising Putin as you claimed.

    It is a bullsh.t charge and I disagree with it - but everywhere in the world, not just in Russia. Assange's charge is identical - you just threw in "security" to justify it and Russians probably did too. Assange published docs that embarrassed the bosses that's why he is in jail. Gorinov did the same. What's the difference? Neither one was charged with criticising the president - that's not a crime in Russia or in the West, don't make up things.


    ...there is no competition among political parties in Russia
     
    Gorinov fella got elected in Moscow as deputy for an opposition party, so no competition? You make up things. Using the same standard one can claim that there is "no competition" between the two parties in US: how exactly does that Indian woman (Haley?) differ from Biden? They look identical and the system would like that all politicians to be like them - in total agreement and causing no trouble. Fix your own issues first, that's what decent people do....

    not really ok to vandalize a parliament or another government building. You can protest outside, in front of the building, but breaking in is not accepted anywhere in the world.
     
    How about all the "color" revolutions? They were all about storming parliaments, could the governments in those countries simply arrest thousands of demonstrators for "vandalism"? (Some actually did just like US, you are in good company...:)

    They were also not charged with "vandalism", there wasn't much of that. They were charged with "conspiracy to interfere with a government function"...one can charge any demonstrators anywhere in the world with that. US gave us a great "democratic" precedent.

    In Kiev the sentences for war opponents are significantly harsher. And in your Latvia not denouncing the Russian aggression is a crime. You need to apply the same standard.


    unduly harsh sentences
     
    Thousands were sentenced to years in prison for basically trespassing in Congress....and all you say is "unduly harsh"...try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn't happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it...that's no way to preach to others. You look like a loser and a hypocrite.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @Mr. Hack

    try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn’t happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it…that’s no way to preach to others.

    The consequences are much worse in Russia for anyone demonstrating against government policies, etc. One demonstrator, Boris Nemtsov, that caught the ire of Putler met his untimely death before he even got to the kremlin, did you forget so soon:

    And what about Navalny and Kara-Murza being sentenced for what exactly? You may delude yourself that Russia is a nice, democratic country to live in, but that’s about it, and even you would rather stay in Slovakia with easy passage to the West.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    You talk apples and oranges. I explained above what Navalny was charged with...I don't care for the charges, but it is identical with Assange. Are you ok with Assange? Or are you too scared to have a critical opinion about abuses in your own societies?

    Demos in Moscow were broken up when not having a permit. Just like in France for Yellow Jackets or Germany recently. Look that up. But there were no mass arrests of demonstrators and then multi-year charges as in Washington. Some protestors were detained, even booked, then let go....that's what civilized countries do.

    So how about the thousands charged for walking through Congress with placards without a permit? Are you ok with that?

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    And what about Navalny and Kara-Murza being sentenced for what exactly?
     
    Kara-Murza should be exchanged for a Russian in Western custody. His sentence is so long and the prison conditions so compromised, that he may not be able to survive the whole sentence, so he should be exchanged, if possible. Of course, Putin would ask a lot for it, but it's worth considering. Anyone who risk their life to defend Ukraine (and broader freedoms) should be considered.

    And, no, Navalny and Assange are not an equivalent, lol, Assange is not a politician with an electoral backing.

    , @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Navalny- multiple financial crimes, multiple hooligan (public order offences), multiple incitement to hooliganism...... regularly violates the probation and suspended term jail sentences he was given you cretin. Unbelievably and unfairly he avoids going back to jail you idiot.

    Together with western intelligence services he then has staged this hilarious and ridiculous novichok comedy poisoning, where (again ridiculously) Russia ALLOWS him to fly to Germany for "treatment"...... where he then records another BS western intelligence propaganda video with the German government's full cooperation (WTF?) where he then commits more incitement for hooliganism crimes.

    Then with the wests orders he tries to do some stupid "Lenin sent from Germany" stunt, where his only possible motive would be to deliberately get arrested you cretin (the guys he is alleging trying to kill him!)

    As for Kara-Murza, this is another Western-handled, mentally disturbed freak you dimwit. He has TWICED claimed to have been poisoned in Russia "by the Kremlin" and got "treated" and taken in as a "political refugee" in London. Flown all over America and Europe begging for Russia to be sanctioned. Made time to fly back to Russia for his father's funeral in the same country he is claiming have twice nearly murdered him!! And then relocated back to Russia at the start of the SMO, clearly to get the authorities to arrest him by deliberately commiting crimes by propagating the Kiev fakes.

    So in both examples these are bizarre incidents where the two have deliberately done everything possible to get arrested. Just like ignorant dimwits as yourself frequently fail to view the frequent illogical freakshows
    in Kiev and apply any rational analysis to it..... you do the same for these anti-Russian nutjobs.

    Its difficult to say what you are worst at you faggot- growing a brain, or growing root vegetables. You are INEPT at both.

  520. @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    have been thinking about Hungary a bit and was wondering how much the fact that Ukrainians happen to be Eastern Slavs is affecting the attitudes of Hungarians (I do not entirely equate Orban with all Hungarians, but it does seem close). Living next to a large E.Slav population can feel ominous.
     
    What an idiotic piece of nonsense. Completely different to the parasitic loser scum with no morals or principles who have been in charge of the Baltics, 404 of course and most of the other ex Warsaw pact states since 1991 .........Hungary has a leader who was actually a principled anti-communist and actively campaigned against the authorities during their youth.
    You not find it incredible that these retard countries like the Baltics ..........have to find, rejects, committed communists most of their lives, foreigners, North American Waffen SS scum diaspora cowards to be their President or PM nearly all the time and can't find to at least somebody who actively resisted the Communist "oppression" for the 50 years ( opportunistic scum who switched at the last second don't classify) to give at least some credibility to all the fake "oppression" BS? LMAO

    Of course, because there was no "oppression", they were all fascist Police states in the 1930s and they never had it so good as when in the USSR - that explains these freaks inability to find people with an actual anti-soviet history.

    There's Orban in Hungary , Croatia has had a few , South Africa had Mandela and several others who actively resisted or were imprisoned by the previous system that was then overturned in a revolution. I don't agree with most of their positions but at least they have the credibility to get to the top of their countries after a revolution. For the Baltics there is none of this - just their own inferiority complexes , Uncle Sam bribery and their general love for Uncle Sam c*ck sucking are what we are seeing with the decisions by the Baltic excrement and other Warsaw pact states - not some anti-communist backlash based on imaginary "historical scars".

    Replies: @sudden death, @LatW

    It is absolutely none of your business who is in charge in the Baltics – you’re just some drunk Russian. You don’t even need to worry about that, it is now “bye bye forever”. The glorious Javelin will show you the way.

  521. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn’t happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it…that’s no way to preach to others.
     
    The consequences are much worse in Russia for anyone demonstrating against government policies, etc. One demonstrator, Boris Nemtsov, that caught the ire of Putler met his untimely death before he even got to the kremlin, did you forget so soon:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/mcs/media/images/81305000/jpg/_81305527_026098139-1.jpg

    And what about Navalny and Kara-Murza being sentenced for what exactly? You may delude yourself that Russia is a nice, democratic country to live in, but that's about it, and even you would rather stay in Slovakia with easy passage to the West.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @Gerard1234

    You talk apples and oranges. I explained above what Navalny was charged with…I don’t care for the charges, but it is identical with Assange. Are you ok with Assange? Or are you too scared to have a critical opinion about abuses in your own societies?

    Demos in Moscow were broken up when not having a permit. Just like in France for Yellow Jackets or Germany recently. Look that up. But there were no mass arrests of demonstrators and then multi-year charges as in Washington. Some protestors were detained, even booked, then let go….that’s what civilized countries do.

    So how about the thousands charged for walking through Congress with placards without a permit? Are you ok with that?

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Beckow

    I am in general agreement with your major point here. Western criticism of the lack of democracy and rule of law in Russia is very hypocritical. Western countries have done worse things than many they accuse Russia of and things are actually getting worse in the West on such matters like freedom of speech. More importantly, there is no law of nature that mandates that liberal democracy must prevail everywhere. Perhaps it's not the best choice for societies like the Russian and there was never any good reason to encroach them militarily.

    However, it's pointless to deny that some objective differences still exist between the West and Russia. You may argue that the Kremlin sending those hapless spooks to poison Skripal was an MI6 set up or something but you can't deny that the Russians stooped to organizing sham referendums in regions they had conquered militarily with 90% approval results where quite recently pro-Ukrainian parties had obtained a large majority. The West hasn't fallen that low yet. It's almost comical in its shamelessness and makes you wonder what other indignities the Kremlins are capable of.

    Replies: @Beckow

  522. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Gorinov and he was sentenced for “knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations“…not for criticising Putin as you claimed.
     
    It's obvious that you simply do not follow the sources in either Russian or Ukrainian, because it is common knowledge that this is the "legal formulation" that is used to crack down on all war dissent. "Discreditation of the armed forces". This applies to criticizing government action (such as bombing your formerly close nation that you used to call "brothers"), as well as objecting to the military operation itself.

    You need to apply the same standard.
     
    No, because unlike RusFedia, neither Ukraine, nor Latvia have attacked or invaded another country.

    Replies: @Beckow, @WS

    If you are unwilling to apply the same standard why do you discuss anything? You could just stand on a corner and yell that you hate Russia. It is meaningless, like being an animal with strong feelings and no brain. By the way, Ukraine attacked Donbas and tried to attack Crimea – so you are wrong even about your skewed logic.

    this is the “legal formulation” that is used to crack down on all war dissent.

    So now you are interpreting it for us….wow. Can we do that elsewhere? What is the real meaning of charging Assange if the “leaking documents” is only a “legal formulation”? Dissent? Embarrassing Hillary Clinton and her gang?

    Nobody in Russia has been charged with “criticising Putin”….you can’t come up with a single case. Instead you bullsh..t that “A doesn’t really mean A” in Russia – it is whatever you want it to be.

    You should read Alice in Wonderland for what that says about you. But you don’t seem much of a reader…

  523. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Russia will likely pass Japan economically now that the SMO has allowed Russia to shake the chains of her oligarchs to some degree.

    Isn't it a bit early to be snorting cope?

    Putin makes and breaks oligarchs as part of his rule. Did you miss that he started the war with his chef turned private billionaire warlord? That's an oligarch. He was exploiting his position with Putin to milk government funds. Those weren't open contracts. He would still be Prigozhin the restaurateur if he didn't meet Putin.

    Russian industry is still ruled by oligarchs that go back to the fall of the USSR. It's a mafia government where billionaires are still made simply by having former KGB connections to Putin.

    Her economy is becoming more balanced with agriculture, extractive industries, heavy industry, high tech industry and service sectors all playing important roles.

    You believe they will pass Japan economically even though they have an egg shortage?

    Prior to the 2015 sanctions the Russian economy may have been unbalanced, though not to the degree of being a “gas station”. Unless you mean a gas station with top 3 in the world aerospace and nuclear industries.

    Top 3 by what measure? Yes everyone is so impressed with the Russian aerospace industry and their grounded planes due to Western sanctions:
    https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/08/08/russia-forced-to-strip-grounded-aircraft-for-parts-as-western-sanctions-over-ukraine-bite-

    You think companies are going to line up for Russian planes after this war is over?

    This war has affirmed that Russia is a culture of lies. I'd never fly in a plane that is certified by the Russian government. What does that mean? Borris the inspector was paid off properly in vodka?

    Both California and Texas have a larger GDP than Russia. The last thing the Russian economy needed was a war. They'll be saddled with billions in medical and pension payments for years. And for what? The ruins of Donbas? Now populated with Asian immigrants? Will that be the basis of the Donbas economy? Asian migrants and Slavic widows? Hilarious how the White nationalist of Unz have rallied around Putin and he is now replacing Slavs with Asians. Idiots.

    When we get real GDP numbers (not artificially inflated from short term government spending) I have no doubt their GDP will be below Mexico. We already know their productivity is down from a lack of men ages 18-30. Watch as they bring in immigrants after the war which is why there are so many Turks in Germany. They had to bring in non-Whites because their White nationalist dictator killed so many White men.

    Replies: @QCIC

    California and Texas are great examples of broad-based economies with good balance, though California is fading. Unfortunately both states are being overrun with immigrants who probably could not have created the prosperous economies which exist in those states.

    I agree that Ukraine and Russia have very visible corruption which holds them back. This factor is becoming more obvious in the USA as well.

    From what I see, Mexico develops almost nothing without outside help. The country is just the convenient answer for the outsource question: cheaper/farther (China) or more expensive/closer (Mexico)? Don’t get me wrong, I think they do OK but the potential is limited. For modern Mexican successes I think of avocados and silver mining. This may change and I hope they keep improving.

    My guess is the SMO may help Russia rebuild the “hollowed out” middle of their industrial economy which in my view includes sectors such as cars, machine tools (capital equipment in general), electronics, etc. For the near-term I think they can do well with internal import replacement business. The long-term export situation may depend on the dollar economy vs BRICS.

    As far as Russian airlines go, the trouble you mention is a direct and intended result of sanctions so it is not surprising. The very protracted development of the indigenous SSJ100 and MC-21 airliners seems to be partially due to Western partners (frenemies). Both programs seem to finally be on track, but ramping up quickly to 100 civilian aircraft deliveries per year will be a serious challenge. The SSJ100 is roughly comparable to the ‘Airbus’ A220, the MC-21 is comparable to the Airbus A320Neo. The SSJ does have a major safety blot from the Moscow crash which was weird on several levels.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    My guess is the SMO may help Russia rebuild the “hollowed out” middle of their industrial economy which in my view includes sectors such as cars, machine tools (capital equipment in general), electronics, etc. For the near-term I think they can do well with internal import replacement business. The long-term export situation may depend on the dollar economy vs BRICS.

    I think when Putin is gone they will go back to being a gas station. McDonald's will return along with the other American companies.

    He hasn't worked hard enough at balancing their economy and odds are they will go back to selling gas and raw minerals to Europe while shrugging at any dependencies. The Russian upper class cares more about getting a BMW than anything else. That is in fact the common outlook of Russians in America. They want a BMW more than they want to build a community compared to other immigrants. The Russians in the show Barry aren't that far from reality. We get Russians that work in the sciences but in the big cities you also see the Russians in gold chains and track suits.

    Maybe the Russians will luck out and get a wise leader but I doubt it. There are too many Russians that are happy to get rich and then shrug if their neighbors use an outhouse or if the economy depends on selling oil to Western Europe. As long as the BMWs and track suits are flowing East as oil moves West the Russian upper class will be satisfied.

    Replies: @QCIC

  524. @songbird
    @LatW

    Whether they had them or not, surely bringing them back would help tourism and create a cottage industry in dog blankets.

    The Indian dogs are already sequenced, so you'd probably just need to use CRISPR, a few times, and maybe add in some sheep or woolly mammoth genes while you're at it.

    If there is any kind of sovereign wealth fund, I'd say the project is worth the investment.

    BTW, I wonder if that is why they didn't eat dogs. Not all the fish but the fact that the woolly dogs had a gamier taste. One of the questions, I would like the Balts to answer. In a kind of Buddhist way - because I dislike the killing of dogs.

    Replies: @LatW

    Whether they had them or not, surely bringing them back would help tourism and create a cottage industry in dog blankets.

    There are some photos, and there is an example of a doggy wool blanket (at Smithsonian, I think).

    I’m not sure “tourism should be helped”, unless solely from the US or Canada (and maybe Japan). These places are meant for conservation, not for swarming, they are fragile. I mean, strong with their ancient, virginal trees and their fertile, evergreen power, but still fragile enough so that you don’t want millions of people just walking through there. But the doggy itself seemed quite cute, it is a bit similar to the husky, the husky is, of course, gorgeous but has a rough personality (understandably so, being an Arctic dog). This woolly doggy seems like it may have been a woman’s doggy or more domestic. So maybe had a sweeter personally? More sheeplike? 🙂

    But it would be great to bring it back anyway. It’s cute.

    BTW, I wonder if that is why they didn’t eat dogs. Not all the fish but the fact that the woolly dogs had a gamier taste.

    I’ve never heard of American Indians eating dog. The coastal Indians had it very good, the environment is incredibly bountiful. Although clams can be hard to pick. Those things are fast and will just disappear in the mud in seconds. I wonder what kind of a brain governs their movement that they are so sensitive.

    [MORE]

    One of the questions, I would like the Balts to answer. In a kind of Buddhist way – because I dislike the killing of dogs.

    There is not much mention of the dog, the horse is more important. The horse is everywhere (in the songs, in the burial rituals, in the cosmogonic myths and in the rites of passage).

    But there is this poem: “you will not kick a dog, nor a burning log in the fireplace” (it’s hard to translate because it uses diminutives, which are impossible to translate in English so it comes out cold). But this is a life rule. And there is sanctity in fire, so the idea is that it is just as important to treat creatures and the whole external world, with love and care, without violence, just as important as it is to revere the eternal fire.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    I’m not sure “tourism should be helped”, unless solely from the US or Canada (and maybe Japan).
     
    I've told Mr. Hack that I think it would be great, if they still chased after you in Japan

    You are right, tourism can be kind of insidious.

    In parts of the Third World, it creates these weird zones of isolation, where gays like Anderson Cooper can safely go to Haiti and then say what a great country it is.

    In Ireland, the government is using the tourist infrastructure to flood the country with hostiles.

    The coastal Indians had it very good, the environment is incredibly bountiful
     
    I was under the impression that a lot of the Indians that the colonists encountered were cannibals. Maybe, those were the hill tribes?

    I’ve never heard of American Indians eating dog
     
    The Comanchee had a taboo against it. And those in the Pacific NW didn't eat it, presumably because their uniquely rich ecosystem.

    But I think they were more the exception than the rule. The Aztecs ate it - they had very few domesticated animals. And most of the Plains Indians. The Lewis and Clark expedition overwintered there, and picked up the habit from them, when their supplies ran low. When they got to the NW, they had acquired a taste for it, and were buying them off the Indians there, who were probably disgusted or bemused by it. Don't know if there is any record of whether they were actually eating woolly dogs or not.

    But there is this poem: “you will not kick a dog, nor a burning log in the fireplace”
     
    I like it.

    My memory of it is vague. But I think there was some druid who had a dog that was supposed to be able to be able to turn into a fireball on command. The main idea of it was the comfort and warmth of fire.

    Replies: @LatW

  525. @AP
    @Beckow


    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress?
     
    The total number of people accused of entering the building is 1,200 and the number of people charged with something is over 1,100 - not “thousands.”

    Even when you make a point that has some validity, you lie.

    They were not arrested merely for demonstrating but for trespassing, vandalism, and other crimes. It is normal for people to be penalised or fined for such actions such as breaking windows.

    Of course there was a lot that was shameful about the government response. Many of them were given unjustly long sentences that reek of political persecution. And the contrast with the lack of prosecutions for the BLM riots is very notable.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Let me understand, 1,100 people were charged, but it is incorrect to use the term “thousands”? Because why? Because 1,100 is less than a thousand? Or your autistic mind objects to the ending “s”?…You forgot again to take your pill.

    not arrested merely for demonstrating but for trespassing, vandalism, and other crimes. It is normal for people to be penalised or fined for such actions such as breaking windows.

    How many windows were broken? 1,100 or maybe 2 or 3? And in US people serve lengthy prison sentences for breaking windows? What is this Middle Ages?

    Trespassing is a misdemeanor and people in normal countries don’t serve years in prison for it. Some minor vandalism, but no fires and massive destruction like at the BLM protests, a few broken windows, but 1,100 n prison? Are they mad?

    So what were the “other crimes” they were charged with? Can you be specific? This was a demonstration, in demos all around the world all kinds of things happen (sometimes by paid provocateurs), it is normal. But can you imagine that in Moscow or Berlin thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years? This is not a minor blemish, this is quite damning. And the Johnson guy is fully on-board with it, did he get lost when he found Unz? This is primarily a free speech platform…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Let me understand, 1,100 people were charged, but it is incorrect to use the term “thousands”
     
    Well, the word “thousands” means 2,000 or more.

    As usual, when caught lying you shriek “autism.” As if autists have a monopoly on truth or accuracy.

    How many windows were broken? 1,100 or maybe 2 or 3? And in US people serve lengthy prison sentences for breaking windows? What is this Middle Ages
     
    As I said, the prosecutions were unjust. The protesters for the most part should have been fined. A small handful who were assaulting police officers should have been convicted of third degree assault or whatever and spent a few months in jail for that.

    So what were the “other crimes” they were charged with? Can you be specific?
     
    Disorderly conduct, obstruction of official proceedings (these are legitimate), six were charged with seditious conspiracy; these prison terms were outrageous.

    But can you imagine that in Moscow or Berlin thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years
     
    There you go, lying again.

    Of those sentenced to prison, the median sentence was 60 days. But many were just fined or obligated to do community service.

    Try to avoid the temptation to say that 60 days is the same thing as years and that only someone with autism would disagree.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  526. @Mikel
    @QCIC


    Since we no longer have a high trust society, people are still learning how to proceed.
     
    I'm not sure this is about living in a high trust society or not. The hacker movement has its origins in the highest trust societies of the world. But the solution they are all converging on of making authentication for the most trivial tasks as painful as possible, if not quasi-impossible, looks quite retarded. The wild internet of the 90s was so much more appealing.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN

    I assume current AI can easily beat the recognize the picture test, this just hasn’t trickled down yet. I don’t know about the tests with distorted text. For the hard cases, AI can probably do better than a human.

    Even in a high trust society there is always a balance between good and bad. With software I think the vast sums to be made tip the balance in the wrong direction. I’m sure things will be fine once we are chipped and our social credit scores can be properly tracked.

    Hackers may be the only thing which can save us from the Matrix, even if they are doing it for the ‘wrong reasons’!

  527. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    You talk apples and oranges. I explained above what Navalny was charged with...I don't care for the charges, but it is identical with Assange. Are you ok with Assange? Or are you too scared to have a critical opinion about abuses in your own societies?

    Demos in Moscow were broken up when not having a permit. Just like in France for Yellow Jackets or Germany recently. Look that up. But there were no mass arrests of demonstrators and then multi-year charges as in Washington. Some protestors were detained, even booked, then let go....that's what civilized countries do.

    So how about the thousands charged for walking through Congress with placards without a permit? Are you ok with that?

    Replies: @Mikel

    I am in general agreement with your major point here. Western criticism of the lack of democracy and rule of law in Russia is very hypocritical. Western countries have done worse things than many they accuse Russia of and things are actually getting worse in the West on such matters like freedom of speech. More importantly, there is no law of nature that mandates that liberal democracy must prevail everywhere. Perhaps it’s not the best choice for societies like the Russian and there was never any good reason to encroach them militarily.

    However, it’s pointless to deny that some objective differences still exist between the West and Russia. You may argue that the Kremlin sending those hapless spooks to poison Skripal was an MI6 set up or something but you can’t deny that the Russians stooped to organizing sham referendums in regions they had conquered militarily with 90% approval results where quite recently pro-Ukrainian parties had obtained a large majority. The West hasn’t fallen that low yet. It’s almost comical in its shamelessness and makes you wonder what other indignities the Kremlins are capable of.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...objective differences still exist between the West and Russia.
     
    ...and within the West, and with Middle East, Latin America, Japan, etc...nobody would ever deny that. It is not bad, variety is the spice of life.

    hapless spooks to poison Skripal was an MI6 set up...Russians stooped to organizing sham referendums in regions they had conquered militarily with 90% approval results where quite recently pro-Ukrainian parties had obtained a large majority.
     
    Skripal story was more complex, spooks running galore in all directions - that's why it was never investigated, too many red lines. You will forgive us for not believing the preposterous simple minded story that you presented. Frankly I don't know and don't care that much: Skripal was a weirdo selling everything to all sides...he was a typical mudder.

    The referendums were just like the endless "votes" that the West organized in its conquests - look up some of the more silly ones, they also were "90% plus". In the Russian ones the people voting were a small self-selected group - Kiev claimed that 75% left Kherson before Russians came. It was about as significant as the 95% plus for Porky after Maidan in Galicia. Or 99% in black districts of Phillie for Biden.


    It’s almost comical...
     
    The tragedies have become so absurd that they are comical. Kiev's 50-year old draftees dying for the "right to be in Nato" - what goes through their minds in the last moment, the missed analysts' buffet in Riga? Zelko dressing up like Che declaring that Kiev is winning...the Estonians screeching that for a "tiny 0.25%" of the GNP EU can defeat Russia and re-claim Crimea. (They just did and there are like 1 million of them.)

    Yeah, let's also enjoy the times...it is unlikely to end well, and if it does, we won't see something like this for generations.

    Replies: @Mikel

  528. @LatW
    @Cesar1191


    NATO wouldn’t need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia.
     
    The problem is that the logistics are too slow (as we saw in Ukraine war, granted that's very different than a NATO country, with a NATO country they would act much more swiftly, but we saw that the Abrams tank travels 9 months). All the assets need to be in place already now, and access denial needs to be established within the next 3-5 years or so (which is being worked on right now).

    Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion
     
    This might be the scenario that Russia is calculating for and counting on (but not the only one probably). For the war to start in the Pacific and for the US to simply not be available. This is why everything needs to be in place, in advance. A combined British and Norwegian air force can be used to swoop in and take out most targets early during the attack. Poles will have an air force, too.

    This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.
     
    It's not just the issue of America's political problems (and the logistics issue), it's a matter of self respect and basic security. There is a significant amount of Nordic investment in the Baltics and all kinds of EU infrastructure projects.

    Btw, if Russia takes over Ukraine (not likely, more likely the war, if it is not finished next year when F16s arrive, it will drag out for years in various forms), they may not attack the Baltics first, but Moldova and Georgia (easier targets). But not that it matters for the big picture of European security.

    Replies: @QCIC

    When Russia wraps up the SMO and the dust settles, the internal political situation in places like Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and even Finland may change a lot. The anti-Russia sellout politicians in those countries poised to make the next Ukraine-style mistake will be discredited and pro-neutrality moderates may come to power.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    When Russia wraps up the SMO and the dust settles, the internal political situation in places like Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and even Finland may change a lot. The anti-Russia sellout politicians in those countries poised to make the next Ukraine-style mistake will be discredited and pro-neutrality moderates may come to power.

    You really believe the people in those countries desire pro-Russian politicians?

    Is Putin helping the image of Russia by dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?

    Replies: @QCIC

  529. @Mikel
    @QCIC


    Since we no longer have a high trust society, people are still learning how to proceed.
     
    I'm not sure this is about living in a high trust society or not. The hacker movement has its origins in the highest trust societies of the world. But the solution they are all converging on of making authentication for the most trivial tasks as painful as possible, if not quasi-impossible, looks quite retarded. The wild internet of the 90s was so much more appealing.

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN

    The wild internet of the 90s was so much more appealing.

    The past has passed, hence the name.

  530. @LatW
    @Beckow


    Gorinov and he was sentenced for “knowingly publishing false information about the Russian armed forces and their operations“…not for criticising Putin as you claimed.
     
    It's obvious that you simply do not follow the sources in either Russian or Ukrainian, because it is common knowledge that this is the "legal formulation" that is used to crack down on all war dissent. "Discreditation of the armed forces". This applies to criticizing government action (such as bombing your formerly close nation that you used to call "brothers"), as well as objecting to the military operation itself.

    You need to apply the same standard.
     
    No, because unlike RusFedia, neither Ukraine, nor Latvia have attacked or invaded another country.

    Replies: @Beckow, @WS

    No, because unlike RusFedia, neither Ukraine, nor Latvia have attacked or invaded another country.

    TRUE: Zelensky is killing his own people

  531. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    California and Texas are great examples of broad-based economies with good balance, though California is fading. Unfortunately both states are being overrun with immigrants who probably could not have created the prosperous economies which exist in those states.

    I agree that Ukraine and Russia have very visible corruption which holds them back. This factor is becoming more obvious in the USA as well.

    From what I see, Mexico develops almost nothing without outside help. The country is just the convenient answer for the outsource question: cheaper/farther (China) or more expensive/closer (Mexico)? Don't get me wrong, I think they do OK but the potential is limited. For modern Mexican successes I think of avocados and silver mining. This may change and I hope they keep improving.

    My guess is the SMO may help Russia rebuild the "hollowed out" middle of their industrial economy which in my view includes sectors such as cars, machine tools (capital equipment in general), electronics, etc. For the near-term I think they can do well with internal import replacement business. The long-term export situation may depend on the dollar economy vs BRICS.

    As far as Russian airlines go, the trouble you mention is a direct and intended result of sanctions so it is not surprising. The very protracted development of the indigenous SSJ100 and MC-21 airliners seems to be partially due to Western partners (frenemies). Both programs seem to finally be on track, but ramping up quickly to 100 civilian aircraft deliveries per year will be a serious challenge. The SSJ100 is roughly comparable to the 'Airbus' A220, the MC-21 is comparable to the Airbus A320Neo. The SSJ does have a major safety blot from the Moscow crash which was weird on several levels.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    My guess is the SMO may help Russia rebuild the “hollowed out” middle of their industrial economy which in my view includes sectors such as cars, machine tools (capital equipment in general), electronics, etc. For the near-term I think they can do well with internal import replacement business. The long-term export situation may depend on the dollar economy vs BRICS.

    I think when Putin is gone they will go back to being a gas station. McDonald’s will return along with the other American companies.

    He hasn’t worked hard enough at balancing their economy and odds are they will go back to selling gas and raw minerals to Europe while shrugging at any dependencies. The Russian upper class cares more about getting a BMW than anything else. That is in fact the common outlook of Russians in America. They want a BMW more than they want to build a community compared to other immigrants. The Russians in the show Barry aren’t that far from reality. We get Russians that work in the sciences but in the big cities you also see the Russians in gold chains and track suits.

    Maybe the Russians will luck out and get a wise leader but I doubt it. There are too many Russians that are happy to get rich and then shrug if their neighbors use an outhouse or if the economy depends on selling oil to Western Europe. As long as the BMWs and track suits are flowing East as oil moves West the Russian upper class will be satisfied.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Time will tell. I think the import substitution push and catching up on conventional military hardware may fill in parts of the Russian economy which never recovered after 1990. Sure the greedy people at the top will make more off of this process than the little guys, but the many productive jobs which are required to meet the new foreign trade and military realities may have an upside for both the working man and middle class folks.

    We need a similar process in the USA.

  532. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    You repeat the desperate subjective nonsense like a conformist parrot you are. Address what I actually said and not a straw-man. But you can't - I asked for a single case of somebody in jail "for criticising Putin" and you couldn't come up with one.

    Navalny was charged with releasing "classified information", fraud and serving a foreign power. If Assange can be charged with it and be in jail for 10 years that you fully support, why are you so excited about others doing the same?

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what? Underwear novichok "tested" miraculously in Berlin after he survived? Really? That's like people going on about CIA killing JFK, or Blair killing Robin Cook - it is all speculation based on weak evidence.

    It is very easy to call something "classified" and charge people with publishing it whether it is Assange or Navalny (or way back NY Times publishing Pentagon papers - also should go to jail?) I think even Trump is charged with it. But you only see it in Russia, not at home.

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress? You will pretend that it is not happening? Tell me what would you say if the same scenario happened in Moscow: thousands pro-Western liberals break into the Russian Parliament and shout slogans for a few hours, march around with placards, keep people from timely "voting" - and then they are all charged and thousands of them are put in prison for years. Would that be ok? So why is it ok in Washington? Don't hide behind "law" - laws are interpreted and abused. That's how it works.

    If you don't address it, I will assume you have nothing to say and are just an ignorant shill for the causes that you belioev in. And kind of a fool.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what?

    On the current prison conditions.

  533. @QCIC
    @LatW

    When Russia wraps up the SMO and the dust settles, the internal political situation in places like Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and even Finland may change a lot. The anti-Russia sellout politicians in those countries poised to make the next Ukraine-style mistake will be discredited and pro-neutrality moderates may come to power.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    When Russia wraps up the SMO and the dust settles, the internal political situation in places like Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and even Finland may change a lot. The anti-Russia sellout politicians in those countries poised to make the next Ukraine-style mistake will be discredited and pro-neutrality moderates may come to power.

    You really believe the people in those countries desire pro-Russian politicians?

    Is Putin helping the image of Russia by dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the citizens in the countries I mentioned will want neutral politicians so they don't become pawns to be killed.

    I think many of the Syrians travel to Russia via Turkey which has been doing the globalist bidding to flood Europe. Russia is a small player in that particular process and Turkey is two-faced as always. As you like to point out, Russia has a similar problem where some combination of Noviops/Atlanticists/Globalists are flooding Russia with Central Asian people. This seems like a bad idea to me, but Russia has more history with this "melting pot" process than some places.

  534. @Beckow
    @AP

    Let me understand, 1,100 people were charged, but it is incorrect to use the term "thousands"? Because why? Because 1,100 is less than a thousand? Or your autistic mind objects to the ending "s"?...You forgot again to take your pill.


    not arrested merely for demonstrating but for trespassing, vandalism, and other crimes. It is normal for people to be penalised or fined for such actions such as breaking windows.
     
    How many windows were broken? 1,100 or maybe 2 or 3? And in US people serve lengthy prison sentences for breaking windows? What is this Middle Ages?

    Trespassing is a misdemeanor and people in normal countries don't serve years in prison for it. Some minor vandalism, but no fires and massive destruction like at the BLM protests, a few broken windows, but 1,100 n prison? Are they mad?

    So what were the "other crimes" they were charged with? Can you be specific? This was a demonstration, in demos all around the world all kinds of things happen (sometimes by paid provocateurs), it is normal. But can you imagine that in Moscow or Berlin thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years? This is not a minor blemish, this is quite damning. And the Johnson guy is fully on-board with it, did he get lost when he found Unz? This is primarily a free speech platform...

    Replies: @AP

    Let me understand, 1,100 people were charged, but it is incorrect to use the term “thousands”

    Well, the word “thousands” means 2,000 or more.

    As usual, when caught lying you shriek “autism.” As if autists have a monopoly on truth or accuracy.

    How many windows were broken? 1,100 or maybe 2 or 3? And in US people serve lengthy prison sentences for breaking windows? What is this Middle Ages

    As I said, the prosecutions were unjust. The protesters for the most part should have been fined. A small handful who were assaulting police officers should have been convicted of third degree assault or whatever and spent a few months in jail for that.

    So what were the “other crimes” they were charged with? Can you be specific?

    Disorderly conduct, obstruction of official proceedings (these are legitimate), six were charged with seditious conspiracy; these prison terms were outrageous.

    But can you imagine that in Moscow or Berlin thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years

    There you go, lying again.

    Of those sentenced to prison, the median sentence was 60 days. But many were just fined or obligated to do community service.

    Try to avoid the temptation to say that 60 days is the same thing as years and that only someone with autism would disagree.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Man "guilty" of walking around the place in a silly costume (the shaman)....... 2 years in jail.

    Man "guilty" of walking around the place and putting his feet on some politicians table....... 4-5 years in jail.

    There were clearly thousands doing the same non-event of a crime like this you dumb shit.

    Worlds most armed Country, huge amounts of gun deaths each year...... but for this protest were zero shots fired (from the protestors that is), zero sign of anyone even carrying a knife......... but huge numbers of people appear to have been charged and received jail sentences that in the civilised world, a person would have had to assume they were carrying and using these weapons to justify this amount of jail time.
    In Russia for punching a police officer nobody is even going to get 4-5 years you ridiculous tramp.

    That's before getting into the issue that many have got in very freely.


    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many
     
    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow's point. "Median" almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two and that's without considering probation or whatever early release but still not freed conditions in addition to that you scumbag.
    Those serving community sentence doesn't change the many were serving time prison you retard. Only a worthless tramp with a lot of spare time would try to attention-seek Beckow into being dragged into this autistic, tedious nonsense.

    There you go lying again
     
    Surely there should be rules to ban this pitifully lying shit, autistic, spam troll wakjob from commenting on here. In addition to the constant lying, deliberate projecting his own scumbag, non-life actions onto others surely this human garbage proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to, proven (lol) to not have basic knowledge of the languages they are faking to speak and other fantasist garbage (and LOL this embarrassing tramp failing to understand what dom buildings are in Russia/USSR) - should have no place on here.

    It is true that some other countries can go in the completely opposite way of the US police state, even too much opposite. USSR with Khrushchev showing mercy by amnestying about 160000 "never surrender" Banderite child, woman. and animal raping & mutilating filth..... who did then surrender. And unbelievablely these coward sadists are the "heroes" of this movement /psychiatric disease.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

  535. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    You repeat the desperate subjective nonsense like a conformist parrot you are. Address what I actually said and not a straw-man. But you can't - I asked for a single case of somebody in jail "for criticising Putin" and you couldn't come up with one.

    Navalny was charged with releasing "classified information", fraud and serving a foreign power. If Assange can be charged with it and be in jail for 10 years that you fully support, why are you so excited about others doing the same?

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what? Underwear novichok "tested" miraculously in Berlin after he survived? Really? That's like people going on about CIA killing JFK, or Blair killing Robin Cook - it is all speculation based on weak evidence.

    It is very easy to call something "classified" and charge people with publishing it whether it is Assange or Navalny (or way back NY Times publishing Pentagon papers - also should go to jail?) I think even Trump is charged with it. But you only see it in Russia, not at home.

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress? You will pretend that it is not happening? Tell me what would you say if the same scenario happened in Moscow: thousands pro-Western liberals break into the Russian Parliament and shout slogans for a few hours, march around with placards, keep people from timely "voting" - and then they are all charged and thousands of them are put in prison for years. Would that be ok? So why is it ok in Washington? Don't hide behind "law" - laws are interpreted and abused. That's how it works.

    If you don't address it, I will assume you have nothing to say and are just an ignorant shill for the causes that you belioev in. And kind of a fool.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

    You repeat the desperate subjective nonsense like a conformist parrot you are. Address what I actually said and not a straw-man. But you can’t – I asked for a single case of somebody in jail “for criticising Putin” and you couldn’t come up with one.

    I don’t have to make up anything. I don’t have to bullshit for a mass murdering midget and his totalitarian empire. That’s your burden.

    Russia sentences opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza to 25 years in prison
    https://www.npr.org/2023/04/17/1168667764/vladimir-kara-murza-prison-sentence

    Navalny was charged with releasing “classified information”, fraud and serving a foreign power.

    So you believe that was a legitimate charge and humans rights organizations are wrong about him being a political prisoner? Where is Nalvany? Did Putin make him disappear or do you think the prisons actually lost him?

    If Assange can be charged with it and be in jail for 10 years that you fully support, why are you so excited about others doing the same?

    I never said he should be in jail for 10 years. I said he committed multiple felonies for releasing classified Federal documents to the internet.

    By the way claiming that Putin was trying to kill Navalny is based on what? Underwear novichok “tested” miraculously in Berlin after he survived?

    Yes he survived being poisoned by an extremely rare nerve agent developed by the USSR. You are telling us it wasn’t Putin? Are the other critics that have been poisoned part of some conspiracy?

    It is very easy to call something “classified” and charge people with publishing it whether it is Assange or Navalny (or way back NY Times publishing Pentagon papers – also should go to jail?)

    Why are you quoting the word classified? You are denying they are classified documents? It isn’t a subjective matter. They were classified and there were thousands of them. If you think that shouldn’t be against the law then state your case. But it isn’t a subjective matter on their classification. He released thousands of classified documents to the internet and without knowing what was on them. Should people be allowed to release classified government documents that could potentially contain private information of individuals?

    How about the thousands arrested for demonstrating in Congress?

    No one was arrested for demonstrating outside of Congress.

    People were arrested for felony trespassing, throwing rocks at the police, throwing a pole at the police, spraying the police with pepper spray, etc. That was incredibly stupid and not a peaceful protest.

    There is no right to throw rocks at the police and force yourself into a Federal building.

    The fact that you have bring up Assange or Jan 6th to defend the midget and his totalitarian state is pathetic. If you want I can repost the 1420 video where Russians admit that their state is totalitarian and they don’t have the right to criticize the government.

  536. I’m inclined to think Mr. Hack had one of these garages that are built into a hillside and that is where he stored his potatoes.

    But how did he prevent the damp from the geothermal spring from causing blight?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    No hillside, honest. And what dampness from what geothermal spring are you talking about?

    It's all really quite simple, I'm a Ukrainian shaman with supernatural powers, especially when working with blankets and plastic bags. The potatoes must have been some super-duper variety impervious to the cold. :-)

    This is my great grandfather from the Carpathian mountain region, for potato protection start watching around 8:35:

    https://youtu.be/ksoivBM9WF0

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Mikel
    @songbird


    I’m inclined to think Mr. Hack had one of these garages that are built into a hillside and that is where he stored his potatoes.
     
    Something unusual went on there, certainly.

    Strangely, the traditional place to store potatoes in the Basque Country has always been the attic of farmhouses. Attics tend to overheat easily but I guess the tile roofs and the cool, maritime climate during the cold season provide a good storage environment in that part of the world.

    Several years ago, though, I came across this video published by the Utah State University and this guy has been my source of truth for potato storage since then. Everything I wanted to know on this fascinating subject but was too shy to ask:

    https://youtu.be/8y-rSJvuuQM
  537. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn’t happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it…that’s no way to preach to others.
     
    The consequences are much worse in Russia for anyone demonstrating against government policies, etc. One demonstrator, Boris Nemtsov, that caught the ire of Putler met his untimely death before he even got to the kremlin, did you forget so soon:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/mcs/media/images/81305000/jpg/_81305527_026098139-1.jpg

    And what about Navalny and Kara-Murza being sentenced for what exactly? You may delude yourself that Russia is a nice, democratic country to live in, but that's about it, and even you would rather stay in Slovakia with easy passage to the West.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @Gerard1234

    And what about Navalny and Kara-Murza being sentenced for what exactly?

    Kara-Murza should be exchanged for a Russian in Western custody. His sentence is so long and the prison conditions so compromised, that he may not be able to survive the whole sentence, so he should be exchanged, if possible. Of course, Putin would ask a lot for it, but it’s worth considering. Anyone who risk their life to defend Ukraine (and broader freedoms) should be considered.

    And, no, Navalny and Assange are not an equivalent, lol, Assange is not a politician with an electoral backing.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
  538. And, no, Navalny and Assange are not an equivalent, lol, Assange is not a politician with an electoral backing.

    Both stood against aparatus of the most powerful states and both are inprisoned in harsh conditions for practically indefinite term for dubius reasons; i.e. equivalent,….

    • Replies: @LatW
    @WS


    Navalny & Assange.. [..] Both stood against aparatus of the most powerful states and both are inprisoned in harsh conditions for practically indefinite term for dubius reasons; i.e. equivalent,….
     
    Was Assange ever a politician? Navalny had those ambitions and had a small, but vocal electorate (with some resonance beyond just Moscow liberal circles, in fact), had his own popular channel and a media enterprise backing him (Dozhd). He also posted a video about Putin's castle - this was the main reason he was finally removed from the scene (to shut him up).

    What Assange posted was interesting, but it could've posed a national security threat (could've endangered citizens' lives). Did anything that Navalny post endanger the lives of citizens? Only in so far that there could've been street action, but then the question is - why can't there be peaceful street action, such as walks?

    Again, I'm not a fan of Russian liberals in general (unless they are staunchly pro-Ukraine, which not all of them are and some only pretend to be), however, if we're going to talk basic freedoms, we need to include the Russian record as well - not much is being revealed about it to the world audience. And we might also address the prison conditions (same as for Alexei Gorinov).

  539. @WS
    And, no, Navalny and Assange are not an equivalent, lol, Assange is not a politician with an electoral backing.

    Both stood against aparatus of the most powerful states and both are inprisoned in harsh conditions for practically indefinite term for dubius reasons; i.e. equivalent,....

    Replies: @LatW

    Navalny & Assange.. [..] Both stood against aparatus of the most powerful states and both are inprisoned in harsh conditions for practically indefinite term for dubius reasons; i.e. equivalent,….

    Was Assange ever a politician? Navalny had those ambitions and had a small, but vocal electorate (with some resonance beyond just Moscow liberal circles, in fact), had his own popular channel and a media enterprise backing him (Dozhd). He also posted a video about Putin’s castle – this was the main reason he was finally removed from the scene (to shut him up).

    What Assange posted was interesting, but it could’ve posed a national security threat (could’ve endangered citizens’ lives). Did anything that Navalny post endanger the lives of citizens? Only in so far that there could’ve been street action, but then the question is – why can’t there be peaceful street action, such as walks?

    Again, I’m not a fan of Russian liberals in general (unless they are staunchly pro-Ukraine, which not all of them are and some only pretend to be), however, if we’re going to talk basic freedoms, we need to include the Russian record as well – not much is being revealed about it to the world audience. And we might also address the prison conditions (same as for Alexei Gorinov).

  540. @songbird
    I'm inclined to think Mr. Hack had one of these garages that are built into a hillside and that is where he stored his potatoes.

    But how did he prevent the damp from the geothermal spring from causing blight?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    No hillside, honest. And what dampness from what geothermal spring are you talking about?

    It’s all really quite simple, I’m a Ukrainian shaman with supernatural powers, especially when working with blankets and plastic bags. The potatoes must have been some super-duper variety impervious to the cold. 🙂

    This is my great grandfather from the Carpathian mountain region, for potato protection start watching around 8:35:

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Don't be shy, Hack. We know that is you!

    Your Ukrainian is better than I expected.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    I want one of those hats. Please provide a link to the vendor. Thanks!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  541. @LatW
    @songbird


    Whether they had them or not, surely bringing them back would help tourism and create a cottage industry in dog blankets.
     
    There are some photos, and there is an example of a doggy wool blanket (at Smithsonian, I think).

    I'm not sure "tourism should be helped", unless solely from the US or Canada (and maybe Japan). These places are meant for conservation, not for swarming, they are fragile. I mean, strong with their ancient, virginal trees and their fertile, evergreen power, but still fragile enough so that you don't want millions of people just walking through there. But the doggy itself seemed quite cute, it is a bit similar to the husky, the husky is, of course, gorgeous but has a rough personality (understandably so, being an Arctic dog). This woolly doggy seems like it may have been a woman's doggy or more domestic. So maybe had a sweeter personally? More sheeplike? :)

    But it would be great to bring it back anyway. It's cute.

    BTW, I wonder if that is why they didn’t eat dogs. Not all the fish but the fact that the woolly dogs had a gamier taste.
     
    I've never heard of American Indians eating dog. The coastal Indians had it very good, the environment is incredibly bountiful. Although clams can be hard to pick. Those things are fast and will just disappear in the mud in seconds. I wonder what kind of a brain governs their movement that they are so sensitive.

    One of the questions, I would like the Balts to answer. In a kind of Buddhist way – because I dislike the killing of dogs.
     
    There is not much mention of the dog, the horse is more important. The horse is everywhere (in the songs, in the burial rituals, in the cosmogonic myths and in the rites of passage).

    But there is this poem: "you will not kick a dog, nor a burning log in the fireplace" (it's hard to translate because it uses diminutives, which are impossible to translate in English so it comes out cold). But this is a life rule. And there is sanctity in fire, so the idea is that it is just as important to treat creatures and the whole external world, with love and care, without violence, just as important as it is to revere the eternal fire.

    Replies: @songbird

    I’m not sure “tourism should be helped”, unless solely from the US or Canada (and maybe Japan).

    I’ve told Mr. Hack that I think it would be great, if they still chased after you in Japan

    [MORE]

    You are right, tourism can be kind of insidious.

    In parts of the Third World, it creates these weird zones of isolation, where gays like Anderson Cooper can safely go to Haiti and then say what a great country it is.

    In Ireland, the government is using the tourist infrastructure to flood the country with hostiles.

    The coastal Indians had it very good, the environment is incredibly bountiful

    I was under the impression that a lot of the Indians that the colonists encountered were cannibals. Maybe, those were the hill tribes?

    I’ve never heard of American Indians eating dog

    The Comanchee had a taboo against it. And those in the Pacific NW didn’t eat it, presumably because their uniquely rich ecosystem.

    But I think they were more the exception than the rule. The Aztecs ate it – they had very few domesticated animals. And most of the Plains Indians. The Lewis and Clark expedition overwintered there, and picked up the habit from them, when their supplies ran low. When they got to the NW, they had acquired a taste for it, and were buying them off the Indians there, who were probably disgusted or bemused by it. Don’t know if there is any record of whether they were actually eating woolly dogs or not.

    But there is this poem: “you will not kick a dog, nor a burning log in the fireplace”

    I like it.

    My memory of it is vague. But I think there was some druid who had a dog that was supposed to be able to be able to turn into a fireball on command. The main idea of it was the comfort and warmth of fire.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    I’ve told Mr. Hack that I think it would be great, if they still chased after you in Japan
     
    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls, but are you sure they would be able to fully appreciate your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds? :)

    Just kidding.

    Besides... a strong, attractive and confident White man, even if chased by half of the planet, will be most comfortable with and will choose his own - as he deserves the most beautiful.

    Anyway, my point was that the Japanese might be more careful with conserving nature and there are not that many of them.


    where gays like Anderson Cooper can safely go to Haiti and then say what a great country it is.

     

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.

    I was under the impression that a lot of the Indians that the colonists encountered were cannibals. Maybe, those were the hill tribes?
     
    Maybe in the South West? But they would've done it for ritualistic purposes. I think in the South West the tribes were faced with more adversaries. From what I understand, the Comanche had to fight Spanish, Mexicans, French, English. That's quite incredible, more adversaries than even for some Eastern Euros. So they are among the more warlike tribes, the coastal Indians probably didn't have such challenges, nor do I believe they would've been able to face them (although who knows). These tribes are way less warlike than the Plains Indians or the ones in the South, such as the Apache who fought the Aztecs (and essentially kept them from moving North, from what I understand).

    The Lewis and Clark expedition overwintered there, and picked up the habit from them, when their supplies ran low. When they got to the NW, they had acquired a taste for it
     

    I've heard that Lewis and Clark got sick of eating salmon and that they wanted a change in their diet.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

  542. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    When Russia wraps up the SMO and the dust settles, the internal political situation in places like Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and even Finland may change a lot. The anti-Russia sellout politicians in those countries poised to make the next Ukraine-style mistake will be discredited and pro-neutrality moderates may come to power.

    You really believe the people in those countries desire pro-Russian politicians?

    Is Putin helping the image of Russia by dumping Syrians on the Finnish border?

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the citizens in the countries I mentioned will want neutral politicians so they don’t become pawns to be killed.

    I think many of the Syrians travel to Russia via Turkey which has been doing the globalist bidding to flood Europe. Russia is a small player in that particular process and Turkey is two-faced as always. As you like to point out, Russia has a similar problem where some combination of Noviops/Atlanticists/Globalists are flooding Russia with Central Asian people. This seems like a bad idea to me, but Russia has more history with this “melting pot” process than some places.

  543. Was Assange ever a politician?

    Realy that important?
    (BTW, Assange is supported by DiEM movement, the last large cycle of independent intellectuals in the Western hemisphere and Australia as well)

    About the prison conditions: Do you think solitary in Belmarsh prison is better? (compare photos)

    And pls leave this phrase of endangered lives…….

    • Replies: @LatW
    @WS


    Realy that important?
     
    Vital.

    DiEM movement
     
    Are those communists?

    About the prison conditions: Do you think solitary in Belmarsh prison is better? (compare photos)
     
    Prison conditions are bad in many places and solitary is very cruel (to subject a non-violent political prisoner to it is especially cruel and unjust, yet at least according to Ilya Yashin, this has been happening in Russia), but we are talking about Russia here. I'm not interested in this "West vs Russia" comparison game that is so prevalent on this website. I'm interested in actual conditions on the ground in a particular geographic area, since that can have a direct impact on the neighboring areas (and eventually - wider world). It doesn't mean I don't care about universal human rights, it just means that it's ok to have a particular interest and that one can talk about what they find interested in talking about (same as the other posters here).

    And pls leave this phrase of endangered lives…….
     
    Actually, no, because some have died in custody (most likely were killed). Sometimes conditions in Russian prisons are such that a person will not last for long or their health will be permanently damaged. For example, the Russian fascist (and imperialist patriot) Colonel Kvachkov, mentioned that while he was in custody, there was not enough fresh air in the cell and one could only go for very short walks outside.

    Gorinov is missing a part of his lung so not in ideal health to begin with, and should be treated with more care. I don't follow Navalny much, but his condition doesn't seem that good either (recently it was obvious he had lost a lot of weight). Where is he?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUVEucccuk

  544. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    No hillside, honest. And what dampness from what geothermal spring are you talking about?

    It's all really quite simple, I'm a Ukrainian shaman with supernatural powers, especially when working with blankets and plastic bags. The potatoes must have been some super-duper variety impervious to the cold. :-)

    This is my great grandfather from the Carpathian mountain region, for potato protection start watching around 8:35:

    https://youtu.be/ksoivBM9WF0

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Don’t be shy, Hack. We know that is you!

    Your Ukrainian is better than I expected.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    That's a good one! Good to see that at least one of the kremlin stooge club here has a sense of humor. :-)

    I know "who's kidding"?...

  545. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    try to imagine for a minute that a few thousand liberal pro-Western demonstrators would break into Duma and shout slogans for a few hours and they would be sentenced to prison for years. But it didn’t happen in Moscow, so you close your eyes to it…that’s no way to preach to others.
     
    The consequences are much worse in Russia for anyone demonstrating against government policies, etc. One demonstrator, Boris Nemtsov, that caught the ire of Putler met his untimely death before he even got to the kremlin, did you forget so soon:

    https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/mcs/media/images/81305000/jpg/_81305527_026098139-1.jpg

    And what about Navalny and Kara-Murza being sentenced for what exactly? You may delude yourself that Russia is a nice, democratic country to live in, but that's about it, and even you would rather stay in Slovakia with easy passage to the West.

    Replies: @Beckow, @LatW, @Gerard1234

    Navalny- multiple financial crimes, multiple hooligan (public order offences), multiple incitement to hooliganism…… regularly violates the probation and suspended term jail sentences he was given you cretin. Unbelievably and unfairly he avoids going back to jail you idiot.

    Together with western intelligence services he then has staged this hilarious and ridiculous novichok comedy poisoning, where (again ridiculously) Russia ALLOWS him to fly to Germany for “treatment”…… where he then records another BS western intelligence propaganda video with the German government’s full cooperation (WTF?) where he then commits more incitement for hooliganism crimes.

    Then with the wests orders he tries to do some stupid “Lenin sent from Germany” stunt, where his only possible motive would be to deliberately get arrested you cretin (the guys he is alleging trying to kill him!)

    As for Kara-Murza, this is another Western-handled, mentally disturbed freak you dimwit. He has TWICED claimed to have been poisoned in Russia “by the Kremlin” and got “treated” and taken in as a “political refugee” in London. Flown all over America and Europe begging for Russia to be sanctioned. Made time to fly back to Russia for his father’s funeral in the same country he is claiming have twice nearly murdered him!! And then relocated back to Russia at the start of the SMO, clearly to get the authorities to arrest him by deliberately commiting crimes by propagating the Kiev fakes.

    So in both examples these are bizarre incidents where the two have deliberately done everything possible to get arrested. Just like ignorant dimwits as yourself frequently fail to view the frequent illogical freakshows
    in Kiev and apply any rational analysis to it….. you do the same for these anti-Russian nutjobs.

    Its difficult to say what you are worst at you faggot- growing a brain, or growing root vegetables. You are INEPT at both.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  546. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    My guess is the SMO may help Russia rebuild the “hollowed out” middle of their industrial economy which in my view includes sectors such as cars, machine tools (capital equipment in general), electronics, etc. For the near-term I think they can do well with internal import replacement business. The long-term export situation may depend on the dollar economy vs BRICS.

    I think when Putin is gone they will go back to being a gas station. McDonald's will return along with the other American companies.

    He hasn't worked hard enough at balancing their economy and odds are they will go back to selling gas and raw minerals to Europe while shrugging at any dependencies. The Russian upper class cares more about getting a BMW than anything else. That is in fact the common outlook of Russians in America. They want a BMW more than they want to build a community compared to other immigrants. The Russians in the show Barry aren't that far from reality. We get Russians that work in the sciences but in the big cities you also see the Russians in gold chains and track suits.

    Maybe the Russians will luck out and get a wise leader but I doubt it. There are too many Russians that are happy to get rich and then shrug if their neighbors use an outhouse or if the economy depends on selling oil to Western Europe. As long as the BMWs and track suits are flowing East as oil moves West the Russian upper class will be satisfied.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Time will tell. I think the import substitution push and catching up on conventional military hardware may fill in parts of the Russian economy which never recovered after 1990. Sure the greedy people at the top will make more off of this process than the little guys, but the many productive jobs which are required to meet the new foreign trade and military realities may have an upside for both the working man and middle class folks.

    We need a similar process in the USA.

  547. @WS

    Was Assange ever a politician?
     
    Realy that important?
    (BTW, Assange is supported by DiEM movement, the last large cycle of independent intellectuals in the Western hemisphere and Australia as well)

    About the prison conditions: Do you think solitary in Belmarsh prison is better? (compare photos)

    And pls leave this phrase of endangered lives.......

    Replies: @LatW

    Realy that important?

    Vital.

    DiEM movement

    Are those communists?

    About the prison conditions: Do you think solitary in Belmarsh prison is better? (compare photos)

    Prison conditions are bad in many places and solitary is very cruel (to subject a non-violent political prisoner to it is especially cruel and unjust, yet at least according to Ilya Yashin, this has been happening in Russia), but we are talking about Russia here. I’m not interested in this “West vs Russia” comparison game that is so prevalent on this website. I’m interested in actual conditions on the ground in a particular geographic area, since that can have a direct impact on the neighboring areas (and eventually – wider world). It doesn’t mean I don’t care about universal human rights, it just means that it’s ok to have a particular interest and that one can talk about what they find interested in talking about (same as the other posters here).

    And pls leave this phrase of endangered lives…….

    Actually, no, because some have died in custody (most likely were killed). Sometimes conditions in Russian prisons are such that a person will not last for long or their health will be permanently damaged. For example, the Russian fascist (and imperialist patriot) Colonel Kvachkov, mentioned that while he was in custody, there was not enough fresh air in the cell and one could only go for very short walks outside.

    Gorinov is missing a part of his lung so not in ideal health to begin with, and should be treated with more care. I don’t follow Navalny much, but his condition doesn’t seem that good either (recently it was obvious he had lost a lot of weight). Where is he?

  548. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    No hillside, honest. And what dampness from what geothermal spring are you talking about?

    It's all really quite simple, I'm a Ukrainian shaman with supernatural powers, especially when working with blankets and plastic bags. The potatoes must have been some super-duper variety impervious to the cold. :-)

    This is my great grandfather from the Carpathian mountain region, for potato protection start watching around 8:35:

    https://youtu.be/ksoivBM9WF0

    Replies: @QCIC, @Emil Nikola Richard

    I want one of those hats. Please provide a link to the vendor. Thanks!

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    They're kind of expensive, but hey, if you gotta have one?...

    https://i.etsystatic.com/19785565/r/il/9d48ab/4703117611/il_794xN.4703117611_3nnk.jpg
    A guy in Portland makes them: Only $310.

  549. Beta Russian men apparently cannot compete with the more masculine men from the Caucasus. After this video I definitely understand why Russian men hate their own women:

  550. Have never seen one of these gray foxes which supposedly were more common than red foxes before the colonists arrived, and which climb trees.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_fox

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @songbird

    Interesting in that the exact inverse in certain European countries with those colours has happened with squirrels - where the grey squirrel from America has got into there.

    A very young squirrel climbing up my leg in the park (I was wearing greyish jeans so must have misidentified me as a tree I assume) is one of the most enjoyable events I have partially recorded on my phone for the kids.

    Replies: @songbird

  551. @AP
    @Beckow


    Let me understand, 1,100 people were charged, but it is incorrect to use the term “thousands”
     
    Well, the word “thousands” means 2,000 or more.

    As usual, when caught lying you shriek “autism.” As if autists have a monopoly on truth or accuracy.

    How many windows were broken? 1,100 or maybe 2 or 3? And in US people serve lengthy prison sentences for breaking windows? What is this Middle Ages
     
    As I said, the prosecutions were unjust. The protesters for the most part should have been fined. A small handful who were assaulting police officers should have been convicted of third degree assault or whatever and spent a few months in jail for that.

    So what were the “other crimes” they were charged with? Can you be specific?
     
    Disorderly conduct, obstruction of official proceedings (these are legitimate), six were charged with seditious conspiracy; these prison terms were outrageous.

    But can you imagine that in Moscow or Berlin thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years
     
    There you go, lying again.

    Of those sentenced to prison, the median sentence was 60 days. But many were just fined or obligated to do community service.

    Try to avoid the temptation to say that 60 days is the same thing as years and that only someone with autism would disagree.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Man “guilty” of walking around the place in a silly costume (the shaman)……. 2 years in jail.

    Man “guilty” of walking around the place and putting his feet on some politicians table……. 4-5 years in jail.

    There were clearly thousands doing the same non-event of a crime like this you dumb shit.

    Worlds most armed Country, huge amounts of gun deaths each year…… but for this protest were zero shots fired (from the protestors that is), zero sign of anyone even carrying a knife……… but huge numbers of people appear to have been charged and received jail sentences that in the civilised world, a person would have had to assume they were carrying and using these weapons to justify this amount of jail time.
    In Russia for punching a police officer nobody is even going to get 4-5 years you ridiculous tramp.

    That’s before getting into the issue that many have got in very freely.

    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many

    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow’s point. “Median” almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two and that’s without considering probation or whatever early release but still not freed conditions in addition to that you scumbag.
    Those serving community sentence doesn’t change the many were serving time prison you retard. Only a worthless tramp with a lot of spare time would try to attention-seek Beckow into being dragged into this autistic, tedious nonsense.

    There you go lying again

    Surely there should be rules to ban this pitifully lying shit, autistic, spam troll wakjob from commenting on here. In addition to the constant lying, deliberate projecting his own scumbag, non-life actions onto others surely this human garbage proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to, proven (lol) to not have basic knowledge of the languages they are faking to speak and other fantasist garbage (and LOL this embarrassing tramp failing to understand what dom buildings are in Russia/USSR) – should have no place on here.

    It is true that some other countries can go in the completely opposite way of the US police state, even too much opposite. USSR with Khrushchev showing mercy by amnestying about 160000 “never surrender” Banderite child, woman. and animal raping & mutilating filth….. who did then surrender. And unbelievablely these coward sadists are the “heroes” of this movement /psychiatric disease.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234

    Nice example of failed Soviet civil "engineering" education:

    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many


    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow’s point. “Median” almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two

     

    You don't even know basic statistics.

    Beckow wrote: "thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years"

    Median is the point at which half are lower and half higher.

    So half of the people who were convicted of a crime had a sentence of under 60 days, half had sentences of more than 60 days.

    It's the most important number here, because it suggests most would not have been in jail for two years or more (indeed, of the 1,100 charged not all even got jail time. But of those who did, 50% got sentences of under 60 days and 50% over sixty days).

    proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to
     
    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234

    You're wasting all of your considerable talents on political matters again?...what I want to know is what you were up to during your long hiatus? I'd guess canning and cellaring all of the produce you were able to collect from your large dacha garden? You're first and foremost a concert pianist (don't forget that), what have you been playing and listening to?

  552. @songbird
    Have never seen one of these gray foxes which supposedly were more common than red foxes before the colonists arrived, and which climb trees.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_fox

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Interesting in that the exact inverse in certain European countries with those colours has happened with squirrels – where the grey squirrel from America has got into there.

    A very young squirrel climbing up my leg in the park (I was wearing greyish jeans so must have misidentified me as a tree I assume) is one of the most enjoyable events I have partially recorded on my phone for the kids.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Gerard1234

    Have heard pine martins are keeping grays at bay in certain pockets of Ireland and Scotland.

    We have reds in America too (though different species.). To a large extent, I would say that you can often find them in the same general neighborhood as grays. Like, in the same woods but not in the same copse. American reds seem more adapted to pines than grays. And I think as a consequence, they are often rarer in suburbs, though you still see them there occasionally.

    Once, a red jumped directly on the back of my neck. I think it was angry at me for interfering with its mating. Though, I still prefer reds to grays. I'd speculate that grays do more damage to houses, gardens, and bird feeders.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP, @Mr. Hack

  553. @Cesar1191
    @AP


    It would add 10 or so million people to Russia (the other 15 or so million would join the 6 million or so Ukrainians already in the West as refugees), geographic depth, and natural resources.

     

    So your estimate is that Ukraine only had about 31 million people before 2022? Anyway, I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia's population close to 200 million.

    That would be a serious boost. This population increase would have allowed Russia to overtake the Japanese economy and become the undisputed largest economy in Europe, in PPP terms, even assuming that Russia was only able to slightly increase its current GDP per capita. And of course, there are all kinds of advantages to economies of scale. Such a Russia would have a much better ability to create spheres of influence and keep other powers out.

    If you're thinking of a way to reverse Russia's geopolitical decline, this was a decent plan, assuming Russia's elite were competent enough to be able to execute it. The problem would be the sanctions regime and the impact on Russia's long-term growth, but I guess one can try to argue that there are ways around that, if one is competent enough.

    Russia’s next move would be taking the Baltics. They would be the next low-hanging fruit. No one will go nuclear for their sake. Poland would defend them though.

    Then, perhaps, making demands for Finlandization of the former Warsaw Pact countries. The distance from Russian-occupied Lviv to Warsaw, Zakarpatya to Budapest (or Bratislava) is small. Would the West really risk itself for their sake?

     

    NATO wouldn't need to go nuclear to help the Baltics. The US and other Western countries would send a conventional force to expel Russia. Failure to do so would be credibility ruining for the US, UK and others.

    The real danger is if the US leaves NATO, because that basically ends the alliance. Or alternatively, if the US is at war with China, and is then unable to help Europe fight off a Russian invasion. This is why Europe has to develop its own military, and they appear to be doing so, even if slowly.

    Replies: @AP, @LatW, @John Johnson

    I think Putin planned to absorb the entire Ukrainian population, or close to it. So when you combine Ukraine and Belarus, the result of uniting the East Slavic lands would give Russia at least 40 million more people, bringing Russia’s population close to 200 million.

    That would be a serious boost.

    That is what I concluded.

    He planned on adding their population to create a single market that would be closer to the UK in size.

    Then try to phase out the Ukrainian language like the Communists and Tsars before him.

    My guess is that he would have moved at least a half million Russians to Kiev. Undermine the natural unity in the capital to prevent future rebellions.

    But of course that plan didn’t work and now he is aiming for Eastern Ukraine which includes Zaporizhzhia Oblast which was never pro-Russian in the least. His goons would never dare make that point on Russian State TV. That is also why he won’t propose UN backed elections. It would undermine his lie that he is supported in the occupied territories. He is currently moving Russian Asians into Donbas so there goes any potential compromise of letting the people vote. Still waiting for a follow up post from the White nationalist bloggers on how their hero Putin is replacing Donbas Slavs with Asians.

  554. @songbird
    @LatW


    I’m not sure “tourism should be helped”, unless solely from the US or Canada (and maybe Japan).
     
    I've told Mr. Hack that I think it would be great, if they still chased after you in Japan

    You are right, tourism can be kind of insidious.

    In parts of the Third World, it creates these weird zones of isolation, where gays like Anderson Cooper can safely go to Haiti and then say what a great country it is.

    In Ireland, the government is using the tourist infrastructure to flood the country with hostiles.

    The coastal Indians had it very good, the environment is incredibly bountiful
     
    I was under the impression that a lot of the Indians that the colonists encountered were cannibals. Maybe, those were the hill tribes?

    I’ve never heard of American Indians eating dog
     
    The Comanchee had a taboo against it. And those in the Pacific NW didn't eat it, presumably because their uniquely rich ecosystem.

    But I think they were more the exception than the rule. The Aztecs ate it - they had very few domesticated animals. And most of the Plains Indians. The Lewis and Clark expedition overwintered there, and picked up the habit from them, when their supplies ran low. When they got to the NW, they had acquired a taste for it, and were buying them off the Indians there, who were probably disgusted or bemused by it. Don't know if there is any record of whether they were actually eating woolly dogs or not.

    But there is this poem: “you will not kick a dog, nor a burning log in the fireplace”
     
    I like it.

    My memory of it is vague. But I think there was some druid who had a dog that was supposed to be able to be able to turn into a fireball on command. The main idea of it was the comfort and warmth of fire.

    Replies: @LatW

    [MORE]

    I’ve told Mr. Hack that I think it would be great, if they still chased after you in Japan

    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls, but are you sure they would be able to fully appreciate your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds? 🙂

    Just kidding.

    Besides… a strong, attractive and confident White man, even if chased by half of the planet, will be most comfortable with and will choose his own – as he deserves the most beautiful.

    Anyway, my point was that the Japanese might be more careful with conserving nature and there are not that many of them.

    where gays like Anderson Cooper can safely go to Haiti and then say what a great country it is.

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.

    I was under the impression that a lot of the Indians that the colonists encountered were cannibals. Maybe, those were the hill tribes?

    Maybe in the South West? But they would’ve done it for ritualistic purposes. I think in the South West the tribes were faced with more adversaries. From what I understand, the Comanche had to fight Spanish, Mexicans, French, English. That’s quite incredible, more adversaries than even for some Eastern Euros. So they are among the more warlike tribes, the coastal Indians probably didn’t have such challenges, nor do I believe they would’ve been able to face them (although who knows). These tribes are way less warlike than the Plains Indians or the ones in the South, such as the Apache who fought the Aztecs (and essentially kept them from moving North, from what I understand).

    The Lewis and Clark expedition overwintered there, and picked up the habit from them, when their supplies ran low. When they got to the NW, they had acquired a taste for it

    I’ve heard that Lewis and Clark got sick of eating salmon and that they wanted a change in their diet.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that. They ain't popular due to their amazing conversation skills.

    Replies: @LatW, @songbird

    , @songbird
    @LatW


    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls,
     
    That sounds like a fun sport, though I was thinking more of some scenes evoked in A Vagabond Journey Around the World Harry A. Franck

    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners, and today, when they know to approach blacks in Tokyo to buy weed.

    During this time, any foreign man would be followed somewhat respectfully, both by the police and civilians, and only a vigorous man could lose his pursuers, for a short length of time, by sliding down steep hills and running.

    your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds?

     

    For the most part, I would say it is more of an interest, than a knowledge.

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.
     
    I really wish that there was something akin to adblock but for gays - I think it really has gotten that bad. I also want a search engine that deranks pages that promote gay stuff.

    Maybe in the South West?
     
    Not too sure, if there were any directly on the Atlantic Coast, but there were lots in the St. Lawrence River Valley and the Great Lakes region.

    Iroquois, Algonquins, Winnebago, Montagnais.

    The Etechemins were sort of on the coast, but with a bit of an asterisk. (You are not exactly on the coast, if you are a couple miles inland in Maine, as Benedict Arnold found out, when he tried to invade Canada.

    But they would’ve done it for ritualistic purposes.

     

    Sure, but that just means it wasn't a rare event, but enmeshed in their culture. Perhaps, that means it was adaptive to their environment.

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  555. Worlds most armed Country, huge amounts of gun deaths each year…… but for this protest were zero shots fired (from the protestors that is), zero sign of anyone even carrying a knife……… but huge numbers of people appear to have been charged and received jail sentences that in the civilised world

    So you would describe this as a civilized protest?

    If you saw a special forces veteran throw a flag like a spear at a police officer would you consider that a valid form of protest?

    I voted for Trump but the Jan 6th MAGA rioters are f-cking morons.

    You don’t have a right to beat the police and force your way into a Federal building. What was the point of that? Were they going to start passing their own laws? Just stupid and Trump was a doof for not telling them to go home.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @John Johnson

    Still trying to pass yourself off as a right winger? lol

    Give it up. No one here ever fell for that.

    Meanwhile in Poland this, reportedly, is the new Minister of Family. As I've said before Catholic Poland is going to die faster than post-Franco Spain and post-Duplessis Quebec. The American Empire is AIDS.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  556. @Gerard1234
    @songbird

    Interesting in that the exact inverse in certain European countries with those colours has happened with squirrels - where the grey squirrel from America has got into there.

    A very young squirrel climbing up my leg in the park (I was wearing greyish jeans so must have misidentified me as a tree I assume) is one of the most enjoyable events I have partially recorded on my phone for the kids.

    Replies: @songbird

    Have heard pine martins are keeping grays at bay in certain pockets of Ireland and Scotland.

    We have reds in America too (though different species.). To a large extent, I would say that you can often find them in the same general neighborhood as grays. Like, in the same woods but not in the same copse. American reds seem more adapted to pines than grays. And I think as a consequence, they are often rarer in suburbs, though you still see them there occasionally.

    Once, a red jumped directly on the back of my neck. I think it was angry at me for interfering with its mating. Though, I still prefer reds to grays. I’d speculate that grays do more damage to houses, gardens, and bird feeders.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFZFjoX2cGg

    , @AP
    @songbird

    In certain places around the Great Lakes there are many black squirrels. It's a very nice shade.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Spotting a squirrel (any color) is a rare sight in Phoenix Land. I've only seen one in all of the time that I've lived here in my backyard. And his appearance was undoubtedly the result of a freak visit as he most likely jumped out of a rental moving truck and stayed for about a week. There were a lots of such trucks in the neighborhood then because folks were moving in and out during the last recession.
    .
    I have seen a few within the Phoenix zoo area roaming around not in cages. I once saw a domestic cat there too that caused quite a commotion when it scurried very quickly in between the zebras and giraffes in the savannah area. People thought that it was more interesting than all of the exotic animals roaming about. It was certainly out of place and everybody got big laugh out of it. :-)

    Replies: @songbird

  557. @LatW
    @songbird


    I’ve told Mr. Hack that I think it would be great, if they still chased after you in Japan
     
    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls, but are you sure they would be able to fully appreciate your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds? :)

    Just kidding.

    Besides... a strong, attractive and confident White man, even if chased by half of the planet, will be most comfortable with and will choose his own - as he deserves the most beautiful.

    Anyway, my point was that the Japanese might be more careful with conserving nature and there are not that many of them.


    where gays like Anderson Cooper can safely go to Haiti and then say what a great country it is.

     

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.

    I was under the impression that a lot of the Indians that the colonists encountered were cannibals. Maybe, those were the hill tribes?
     
    Maybe in the South West? But they would've done it for ritualistic purposes. I think in the South West the tribes were faced with more adversaries. From what I understand, the Comanche had to fight Spanish, Mexicans, French, English. That's quite incredible, more adversaries than even for some Eastern Euros. So they are among the more warlike tribes, the coastal Indians probably didn't have such challenges, nor do I believe they would've been able to face them (although who knows). These tribes are way less warlike than the Plains Indians or the ones in the South, such as the Apache who fought the Aztecs (and essentially kept them from moving North, from what I understand).

    The Lewis and Clark expedition overwintered there, and picked up the habit from them, when their supplies ran low. When they got to the NW, they had acquired a taste for it
     

    I've heard that Lewis and Clark got sick of eating salmon and that they wanted a change in their diet.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that. They ain’t popular due to their amazing conversation skills.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that. They ain’t popular due to their amazing conversation skills.
     
    I was just trying to tease him a bit (since he volunteered his preferences). lol

    Personally, that's what I enjoy about Asians, that they can be quiet, mellow and agreeable. But one doesn't have to be around them all the time.

    , @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that.
     
    Asian girls have some good qualities, but my preference is for really pale skin.

    Other than the fact that I have never been very attracted to very tanned girls, it was quite a while before I even was able to realize it, by considering commonalities in the girls that I thought were the most attractive.

    It is a pretty un-PC beauty standard in the West nowadays, so you don't hear people wax poetic about it anymore, like you might still to a limited extent with hair and eye color.

    I've often wondered about the origin of it. Whether it is family imprinting or the genes themselves. And if it would be more common tendency in Ireland than among the Germanics who seem almost equally pale to start, but can brown very deeply.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  558. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that. They ain't popular due to their amazing conversation skills.

    Replies: @LatW, @songbird

    [MORE]

    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that. They ain’t popular due to their amazing conversation skills.

    I was just trying to tease him a bit (since he volunteered his preferences). lol

    Personally, that’s what I enjoy about Asians, that they can be quiet, mellow and agreeable. But one doesn’t have to be around them all the time.

  559. @songbird
    @Gerard1234

    Have heard pine martins are keeping grays at bay in certain pockets of Ireland and Scotland.

    We have reds in America too (though different species.). To a large extent, I would say that you can often find them in the same general neighborhood as grays. Like, in the same woods but not in the same copse. American reds seem more adapted to pines than grays. And I think as a consequence, they are often rarer in suburbs, though you still see them there occasionally.

    Once, a red jumped directly on the back of my neck. I think it was angry at me for interfering with its mating. Though, I still prefer reds to grays. I'd speculate that grays do more damage to houses, gardens, and bird feeders.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP, @Mr. Hack

    • Thanks: songbird, Mr. Hack
  560. @S
    @Europe Europa


    I don’t understand why right wing people in Britain always feel the need to shill for the Soviet Union and Russia. Despite mass immigration into Britain, Putin is not your friend.
     
    I agree. You had a similar thing going on in Europe after the 2016 election of Trump and people in Europe thinking Trump was going to rescue them.

    When someone is drowning they will latch onto anything.

    Replies: @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Women aren’t allowed to become sushi chefs in Japan because their hands are too warm to handle the ingredients.

    • Replies: @S
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    It's said women in Japan got less cancer of the lip than their men as (according to protocol) they would drink their hot tea after their husbands, and hence after it had cooled off a bit.

  561. @John Johnson
    Worlds most armed Country, huge amounts of gun deaths each year…… but for this protest were zero shots fired (from the protestors that is), zero sign of anyone even carrying a knife……… but huge numbers of people appear to have been charged and received jail sentences that in the civilised world

    So you would describe this as a civilized protest?

    https://youtu.be/PXS-DvhQSog?t=8

    If you saw a special forces veteran throw a flag like a spear at a police officer would you consider that a valid form of protest?

    I voted for Trump but the Jan 6th MAGA rioters are f-cking morons.

    You don't have a right to beat the police and force your way into a Federal building. What was the point of that? Were they going to start passing their own laws? Just stupid and Trump was a doof for not telling them to go home.

    Replies: @Matra

    Still trying to pass yourself off as a right winger? lol

    Give it up. No one here ever fell for that.

    Meanwhile in Poland this, reportedly, is the new Minister of Family. As I’ve said before Catholic Poland is going to die faster than post-Franco Spain and post-Duplessis Quebec. The American Empire is AIDS.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Matra

    Still trying to pass yourself off as a right winger? lol

    I've never claimed to be a right winger. Find a single post where I claim to be a right winger.

    I'm anti-leftist and populist. I am in fact very critical of right wing beliefs on the economy like putting your trust in multi-national corporations to act in good faith on critical matters. I also don't support an economy where workers struggle while billionaires that weren't even born here use our country like a personal board game.

    Would you cheer if antifa beat up some cops and stormed a building? Would you call that a peaceful protest?

    Maybe you are comfortable living with double standards but I am not.

    What exactly was gained by Jan 6th? Is Trump president? What was the plan? Get on Nancy's desk and bang the gavel?

    This type of stupidity only feeds the MSM. I'm sorry if you thought it was some historical moment.

    It was a riot just like the firey but mostly peaceful protest. I'm not afraid to use the R word in reference to Blacks burning buildings or MAGA dorks throwing rocks at the police.

  562. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Man "guilty" of walking around the place in a silly costume (the shaman)....... 2 years in jail.

    Man "guilty" of walking around the place and putting his feet on some politicians table....... 4-5 years in jail.

    There were clearly thousands doing the same non-event of a crime like this you dumb shit.

    Worlds most armed Country, huge amounts of gun deaths each year...... but for this protest were zero shots fired (from the protestors that is), zero sign of anyone even carrying a knife......... but huge numbers of people appear to have been charged and received jail sentences that in the civilised world, a person would have had to assume they were carrying and using these weapons to justify this amount of jail time.
    In Russia for punching a police officer nobody is even going to get 4-5 years you ridiculous tramp.

    That's before getting into the issue that many have got in very freely.


    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many
     
    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow's point. "Median" almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two and that's without considering probation or whatever early release but still not freed conditions in addition to that you scumbag.
    Those serving community sentence doesn't change the many were serving time prison you retard. Only a worthless tramp with a lot of spare time would try to attention-seek Beckow into being dragged into this autistic, tedious nonsense.

    There you go lying again
     
    Surely there should be rules to ban this pitifully lying shit, autistic, spam troll wakjob from commenting on here. In addition to the constant lying, deliberate projecting his own scumbag, non-life actions onto others surely this human garbage proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to, proven (lol) to not have basic knowledge of the languages they are faking to speak and other fantasist garbage (and LOL this embarrassing tramp failing to understand what dom buildings are in Russia/USSR) - should have no place on here.

    It is true that some other countries can go in the completely opposite way of the US police state, even too much opposite. USSR with Khrushchev showing mercy by amnestying about 160000 "never surrender" Banderite child, woman. and animal raping & mutilating filth..... who did then surrender. And unbelievablely these coward sadists are the "heroes" of this movement /psychiatric disease.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    Nice example of failed Soviet civil “engineering” education:

    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many

    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow’s point. “Median” almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two

    You don’t even know basic statistics.

    Beckow wrote: “thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years”

    Median is the point at which half are lower and half higher.

    So half of the people who were convicted of a crime had a sentence of under 60 days, half had sentences of more than 60 days.

    It’s the most important number here, because it suggests most would not have been in jail for two years or more (indeed, of the 1,100 charged not all even got jail time. But of those who did, 50% got sentences of under 60 days and 50% over sixty days).

    proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to

    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Nice example of failed Soviet Civil "engineering" education
     
    LMAO. Leaving alone the fact you are a lying wakjob and clearly don't even know what Civil engineering is judging by these dumb comments-it is stating the obvious to say a Soviet Civil Engineer can go anywhere in the west, anywhere around the world and be assured of companies on their knees begging them to work for them (or in the Universities). Soviet Civil Engineering - it's the highest sign of quality you dumbf**k.

    The portfolio of work is there for everyone to see and requires zero further comment.

    High class Soviet Civil engineering is the one thing in this embarrassingly one-sided annihilation SMO that is keeping the levels of ukronazi-skota-shlukha fertiliser supply at "only" super-super-super high volumes instead of super-super-super-super high amounts you demented retard. LOL. The enormous amounts of very thick, heavily reinforced concrete structures built in any ground conditions at any depth,...or prestressed structures that again completed in any ground conditions, forming any difficult shape and were built decades before for military, industrial and public purposes... are what is sheltering ukronazi pussy soldiers and huge masses of Soviet and western provided weapons, weapons systems, communication centres etc from being vaporised immediately and making them much less vulnerable pre-battlefield deployment... than they would have been in ANY place outside of USSR you imbecile.

    Soviet Union and our great and unique civil engineering heritage is the only thing keeping 404 in a coma from all the annihilation received ... but still at least technically alive on a life support machine.

    I did used to work in the nuclear power industry, so we should give massive thanks to the US (LMAO) as the typical American civil engineering f**kups at 3 Mile Island and Fukushima have helped Rosatom earn billions more dollars. Brilliant work!

    America has done some very good civil engineering projects over the years, but go anywhere in Europe (rhetorical question as a fantasist f**kwit lowlife as yourself has never gone there) and you will see better and far more difficult engineering projects to complete than in US.
    Italy always had a good reputation for, but you go to other Mediterranean countries like Spain or even Greece and you see they have done much better road, rail, bridges, power plant projects than equivalent ones in Pindostan.

    The most famous, textbook studied disastrous civil engineering f**kup ALWAYS listed as the worst is the American Tacoma Narrow bridge collapse!!

    Further amusing is that a reject like you sounds like you were rejected from the most reject university course of all history - American Sovietologists - probably the dumbest, fact-free scum in history. As I say, you don't sound like you were on the course, just that you were rejected and regurgitate crap that these morons might say if they were hit on the head.

    Your medical "knowledge" is as bad as your American Sovietology, as evidenced several times in here when scrutinise on the most BASIC medical knowledge. So yet another fantasist nonsense from human garbage like you. Difficult to say which you are worst at lying about - the Soviet ology.... or the fake medic, LOL.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    , @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Wow you are dumb. And just a tedious POS. As I said before, Beckow's point is totally correct.


    So half of the people were convicted of a crime got sentences of over 60 days and 50% got over 60 days
     
    That number indicates theoretically half of those jailed could all have sentences of exactly 1000 years each, while still having a median of 60 days for the total number sentenced you cretin.
    As even a 3 year old could deduce, the more the numbers in a set of data (and the thousands of arrests here by the US police state is a huge amount) then the less skewed the data is by one outlier - and the more representative of the entire data the medium becomes and the less important is the median then it would be if the numbers were 2,2,4,7,158 trillion. So average jail sentence length is important you idiot.


    Anyway 60 days (plus probation requirements of several years) is extreme even for the standards of the gutter US legal system. That's before thinking about 4 or 5 years for putting feet on a table or 2 years for walking in a building dressed as a shaman you misdirection dickhead.

    This was a nonevent historically, just some humourous mass event that unintentionally got out of control - it doesn't require all this melodramatic narcissism that the US sewer political/media system produces. The serious point that this narcissistic scumbag nonsense over nothing is part of the same filth that gives the world fake impeachments involving Soviet Jew 1970s diaspora scum or "foreign power interference" BS that make further impossible banderastan making sane negotiation with Russia under their American masters orders between 2014-2022.

    Replies: @AP

  563. @songbird
    @Gerard1234

    Have heard pine martins are keeping grays at bay in certain pockets of Ireland and Scotland.

    We have reds in America too (though different species.). To a large extent, I would say that you can often find them in the same general neighborhood as grays. Like, in the same woods but not in the same copse. American reds seem more adapted to pines than grays. And I think as a consequence, they are often rarer in suburbs, though you still see them there occasionally.

    Once, a red jumped directly on the back of my neck. I think it was angry at me for interfering with its mating. Though, I still prefer reds to grays. I'd speculate that grays do more damage to houses, gardens, and bird feeders.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP, @Mr. Hack

    In certain places around the Great Lakes there are many black squirrels. It’s a very nice shade.

    • Thanks: songbird
  564. Westoids give women to blacks to buy street protection.

  565. @LatW
    @songbird


    I’ve told Mr. Hack that I think it would be great, if they still chased after you in Japan
     
    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls, but are you sure they would be able to fully appreciate your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds? :)

    Just kidding.

    Besides... a strong, attractive and confident White man, even if chased by half of the planet, will be most comfortable with and will choose his own - as he deserves the most beautiful.

    Anyway, my point was that the Japanese might be more careful with conserving nature and there are not that many of them.


    where gays like Anderson Cooper can safely go to Haiti and then say what a great country it is.

     

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.

    I was under the impression that a lot of the Indians that the colonists encountered were cannibals. Maybe, those were the hill tribes?
     
    Maybe in the South West? But they would've done it for ritualistic purposes. I think in the South West the tribes were faced with more adversaries. From what I understand, the Comanche had to fight Spanish, Mexicans, French, English. That's quite incredible, more adversaries than even for some Eastern Euros. So they are among the more warlike tribes, the coastal Indians probably didn't have such challenges, nor do I believe they would've been able to face them (although who knows). These tribes are way less warlike than the Plains Indians or the ones in the South, such as the Apache who fought the Aztecs (and essentially kept them from moving North, from what I understand).

    The Lewis and Clark expedition overwintered there, and picked up the habit from them, when their supplies ran low. When they got to the NW, they had acquired a taste for it
     

    I've heard that Lewis and Clark got sick of eating salmon and that they wanted a change in their diet.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird

    [MORE]

    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls,

    That sounds like a fun sport, though I was thinking more of some scenes evoked in A Vagabond Journey Around the World Harry A. Franck

    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners, and today, when they know to approach blacks in Tokyo to buy weed.

    During this time, any foreign man would be followed somewhat respectfully, both by the police and civilians, and only a vigorous man could lose his pursuers, for a short length of time, by sliding down steep hills and running.

    your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds?

    For the most part, I would say it is more of an interest, than a knowledge.

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.

    I really wish that there was something akin to adblock but for gays – I think it really has gotten that bad. I also want a search engine that deranks pages that promote gay stuff.

    Maybe in the South West?

    Not too sure, if there were any directly on the Atlantic Coast, but there were lots in the St. Lawrence River Valley and the Great Lakes region.

    Iroquois, Algonquins, Winnebago, Montagnais.

    The Etechemins were sort of on the coast, but with a bit of an asterisk. (You are not exactly on the coast, if you are a couple miles inland in Maine, as Benedict Arnold found out, when he tried to invade Canada.

    But they would’ve done it for ritualistic purposes.

    Sure, but that just means it wasn’t a rare event, but enmeshed in their culture. Perhaps, that means it was adaptive to their environment.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners
     
    Imagine if every nation was that way?

    and today, when they know to approach blacks in Tokyo to buy weed.
     

    Most of them are not that way, and Whites are much worse that way (unfortunately). Besides, it doesn't look like there are visibly that many blacks in Tokyo (not that there should be any at all).

    Maybe they modernized way too fast in late 19th century, I think some of it sounds a bit unnatural. Maybe they were too interested in European norms at the time.


    and only a vigorous man could lose his pursuers, for a short length of time, by sliding down steep hills and running.
     
    Hahaha, this is really hilarious. A guy goes to a far away land just to have to avoid locals. :)
    In Tokyo it's actually so tight that I don't see how a Northern Euro guy can even feel comfortable there. A woman could.

    I really wish that there was something akin to adblock but for gays – I think it really has gotten that bad.
     
    Gosh, I'm so tired of this. And, yes, it's bad. So many... more than their actual number in population. What is really annoying is how almost all of them seem to reflect a "normal", domestic, monogamous life - as if this was their norm. How come they don't make ads showing their true lifestyle? They should do something like what they do with alcohol and medication ads where they ad little letters in the end or little warnings - and then put all the gay related statistics there, such as the number of partners they have on average, whose names they don't know, the years they stay with one job, etc.

    I also want a search engine that deranks pages that promote gay stuff.
     
    That would be awesome, there has to be some tech solution for this.

    but there were lots in the St. Lawrence River Valley and the Great Lakes region.
     
    Where is this described, in what literature? Well, some tribes, in other parts of the world, too, eat their enemy as a ritual. Doesn't mean they subsist on that.

    Black squirrels abound, they look gothic. :)

    Replies: @songbird

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird


    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners
     
    Why don't you give a reference for this outrageous claim.

    There was also a time when Irish in Britain and America were treated as subhuman simian. They would have been better off in Japan.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Monkeyirishman.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/The_Bugaboo_of_Congress_-_Puck.png

    Replies: @songbird

  566. Ben the idiot is at it again:

    https://www.rt.com/news/589355-ukraine-nazi-germany-hodges/

    What a moron. Recalling his claim that the Kiev regime will have Crimea by the end of the year.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    I listened to the first 15 minutes of the interview. General Hodges (ret.) discusses some of the reasons the Ukrainians have been hammered and de facto acknowledges they are in fact being hammered. He seems to be pretending they have an endless pool of manpower to get killed on the front lines.

    My hunch is that Hodges wants NATO to get directly and more heavily involved for training experience. In other words he wants to get a bunch of Polish, German, British and other troops killed in Ukraine so those countries will gear up for larger future wars against Russia and China. The NATO mandarins are probably looking for a way to get these NATO troops more directly involved on the ground (beyond advisors and mercenaries) without going quite to the precipice of WW3. This might be some sort of 'humanitarian intervention'. Internally this could be sold as an attempt to push Russia partially back to give Ukraine better terms in their 2024 capitulation. It might be sold as a way for Poland to acquire Lviv.

    I doubt the West has the stomach for spending hundreds of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives, but never say never. On the other hand, I can easily imagine that some diabolical monster would come up with the notion that broader NATO-Russia wars are the perfect answer to the world financial conundrum of dollar hyperinflation versus US debt default.

    I don't think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction. If NATO escalates, Russia has plenty of room to escalate. The losers will be Ukrainians as always, dutiful throw away pawns that they are. It may be that the (((deep state))) wants more civilian damage in Ukraine.
    Interview is here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9CBdzpZEmw

    Replies: @John Johnson

  567. A Japanese zoo has launched an investigation after apparently killing 31 of its 40 squirrels by mistake with treatments meant to kill parasites, officials said.

    Keepers at the Inokashira Park Zoo in Tokyo treated the animals with anti-parasitic medicine on 4 December as part of a sanitary precaution, while also spraying insecticide over their nest boxes.

    One of the bushy-tailed rodents – a common Japanese squirrel – died soon afterwards and over subsequent days more and more perished, with 31 fatalities recorded by Monday morning.

    “The possibility of drug-induced poisoning cannot be denied,” the zoo admitted in a statement on Monday.

    “We’re currently investigating the cause of their deaths and observing the conditions of surviving individuals,” they said, adding that a pathological examination of the corpses was under way.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/12/japan-zoo-investigates-possible-mass-squirrel-poisoning

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Vasily Blyukher was the key éminence grise behind Chiang Kai-shek's 1926 Northern Expedition. While in China he took the nom de guerre 加倫 jiā lún.

    https://i.postimg.cc/pV8HZdLH/image.webp

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Chiang_Kai-shek_1926.jpg

    One of the end results the successful expedition planned by Blyukher, was that Chiang would abrogate treaties that Qing signed with Japan after the Russo-Japanese War.

    Blyukher was one of the original five marshals of USSR; only two of which survived the Great Purge.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/5marshals_01.jpg

    Blyukher was not one of the two, despite presiding over the purge of Tukhachevsky just briefly before, he was accused of being Japanese spy and liquidated by NKVD.

  568. @Matra
    Is the tweet below from the AaronGross who posts here as HeavilyMarbledSteak (or something similar) or I'm a mixing up my Jews?

    https://twitter.com/MatthewParrott/status/1736819866303344660

    Replies: @ShortOnTime, @silviosilver

    Fwiw, what matters more than the quality or quantity of atrocities is that Jihadists and Islamists have a better record of success than Nazis. Compare the unique one-off of 1933-1945 in Germany and Europe (nothing seems to have really come of 21st century attempts to revive Nazism, Jews and Russians are simply too deeply opposed to it, the latter for understandable reasons) against Muhammed and his first Jihad’s from the 7th century AD and all the Islamic Caliphates, Empires and Jihadist movements that have achieved more since then. What’s interesting too is that the Nazis were actually pro-Islam as the Hajj Amin al-Husseini and Bosnian Muslim connection shows.

    Some stream of thought from some of the footage of the October 7th attack was the “cringing submission” aspect of Islam when the Hamas fighters wielded the AKs by swinging them back and forth in movement as if they were curved swords straight out of the very first Jihad’s of Islam. The trigger discipline of one shot one burst was a bit of a surprise to see. In previous mid-east conflicts it looked like the guns are just fired stupidly all over the place and whole ammo chargers are wasted. There was blood on the floor of some of the Jewish homes, so at least something happened there definitely. The kidnapping of the hostages has the ring of a nomadic and tribal raid to it, but also as a smart move to buy time and leverage in hostage swaps and things like that.

    Given how much of an October 7th psychosis there is in the mainstream (like it’s the next 9/11), there’s no need to discuss it more anyway, especially since the Palestinians are already paying a very severe price for it and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

  569. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Don't be shy, Hack. We know that is you!

    Your Ukrainian is better than I expected.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    That’s a good one! Good to see that at least one of the kremlin stooge club here has a sense of humor. 🙂

    I know “who’s kidding”?…

  570. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Mr. Hack

    I want one of those hats. Please provide a link to the vendor. Thanks!

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    They’re kind of expensive, but hey, if you gotta have one?…


    A guy in Portland makes them: Only $310.

  571. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Man "guilty" of walking around the place in a silly costume (the shaman)....... 2 years in jail.

    Man "guilty" of walking around the place and putting his feet on some politicians table....... 4-5 years in jail.

    There were clearly thousands doing the same non-event of a crime like this you dumb shit.

    Worlds most armed Country, huge amounts of gun deaths each year...... but for this protest were zero shots fired (from the protestors that is), zero sign of anyone even carrying a knife......... but huge numbers of people appear to have been charged and received jail sentences that in the civilised world, a person would have had to assume they were carrying and using these weapons to justify this amount of jail time.
    In Russia for punching a police officer nobody is even going to get 4-5 years you ridiculous tramp.

    That's before getting into the issue that many have got in very freely.


    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many
     
    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow's point. "Median" almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two and that's without considering probation or whatever early release but still not freed conditions in addition to that you scumbag.
    Those serving community sentence doesn't change the many were serving time prison you retard. Only a worthless tramp with a lot of spare time would try to attention-seek Beckow into being dragged into this autistic, tedious nonsense.

    There you go lying again
     
    Surely there should be rules to ban this pitifully lying shit, autistic, spam troll wakjob from commenting on here. In addition to the constant lying, deliberate projecting his own scumbag, non-life actions onto others surely this human garbage proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to, proven (lol) to not have basic knowledge of the languages they are faking to speak and other fantasist garbage (and LOL this embarrassing tramp failing to understand what dom buildings are in Russia/USSR) - should have no place on here.

    It is true that some other countries can go in the completely opposite way of the US police state, even too much opposite. USSR with Khrushchev showing mercy by amnestying about 160000 "never surrender" Banderite child, woman. and animal raping & mutilating filth..... who did then surrender. And unbelievablely these coward sadists are the "heroes" of this movement /psychiatric disease.

    Replies: @AP, @Mr. Hack

    You’re wasting all of your considerable talents on political matters again?…what I want to know is what you were up to during your long hiatus? I’d guess canning and cellaring all of the produce you were able to collect from your large dacha garden? You’re first and foremost a concert pianist (don’t forget that), what have you been playing and listening to?

  572. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack

    I'm interested what are the components of the antique hi-fi system we have been discussing for years? Is it an American system from your parents or grandparents? Just a Japanese system from a more recent epoch?



    If it is only RCA connections, something like this will convert your computer to a music server. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UMC22--behringer-u-phoria-umc22-usb-audio-interface.
     
    This link is gold, especially the video link within “audio interface for dummies” Thanks!
     
    The front side of the audio interface is for connecting your electric guitar, synth or your microphones to your computer.

    But from the back side of the interface you can just use it convert the USB input from your computer into the RCA output to your antique amplifier. If you have a hi-fi system from the 1960s onwards it will have no problem with the connection. If your systems is from the 1950s it could have some strange plugs and we probably need to use the soldering iron.

    You talked about CDs though so I assume it is a modern system.

    So, you need only 2x TS to RCA cables from the audio interface to the amplifier.
    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RCC102R28--roland-rcc-10-2r28-dual-1-4-inch-ts-rca-interconnect-cable-10-foot

    What is the distance from the computer to the amplifier?


    currently own about 300 CD’s, but have interests that could possibly extend to a 10,000 CD library. It’s much more cost effective to just plug into Spotify’s huge library and save the difference of buying 9,700 CD’s.
     
    Lol talk about minimalism and hoarding. Now you need 10,000 CD?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I thought that we went over the component specifics 1.5 years ago, when we last discussed this topic? I even remember providing you with some photos of my exact speaker system. Anyway, unless absolutely needed, it should be sufficient to let you know that the receiver was vintage mid 1980’s that included an amplifier and radio. It also included a nice cassette tape player within the design too. This offered the opportunity to make really decent tapes of CD’s being played. The speakers and CD player ran through the receiver. I think that the “audio-interface” system that you’ve directed me to is all that is left to include to cover my needs.

    Lol talk about minimalism and hoarding. Now you need 10,000 CD?

    Only for my listening pleasure, but not the accompanying CD cases. That’s why the whole idea that I’ve presented is so appealing to me. But perhaps I should totally remove listening to music from my lifestyle? Most even monks, however, allow themselves some musical expression?…

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    listening pleasure, but not the accompanying CD cases. That’s why the whole idea that I’ve presented is so appealing to me. But perhaps I should totally remove listening to music
     
    Well it's an interesting topic.

    You said you need 10,000 CDs. If you listen to a different album every day with no repeats or vacations it is 27,4 years before you can listen to such high numbers of CDs. More practical would be to listen to a new album every week with no repeats or vacations, then 10,000 CDs is 192 years of music listening.

    In the past times in the 20th century, average music fans in 1960s America would probably listen to a new album every month? New albums were expensive in the 1960s relative to working class income.

    So, 10,000 albums would be 833 years at those kind of rates of consumption for many of the 1960s music fans.

    -

    Streaming is like converting your food cupboard to a supermarket. But the number of units of music you can consume like your stomach size is still fixed and not larger today than in the 1960s.

    Ironically it's possible people are less music fans today than in the 1960s when they would listen to only around 12 new albums each year.

    Another paradox. In the 1960s, there was more transfer of money to musicians, it was a more normal profession and society was more fanatic about music. While the music fans only had a limited cupboard. While in the 2020s, music fans have a supermarket, while they are becoming less music fans at the same time and society is investing less resources to music industries.


    should be sufficient to let you know that the receiver was vintage mid 1980’s that included an amplifier and radio. It also included a nice cassette tape player within the design too.

     

    What is the name/model of the 1980s amplifier? Looking at the speakers I guess it actually a complete system which you bought combined?

    that we went over the component specifics 1.5 years ago, when we last discussed this topic? I even remember providing you with some photos of my exact

     

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-191-russia-ukraine/#comment-5421435

    I don't specific about the speakers "Technics SB-2460". But there is information about the series "Technics SB-2***"

    Those old speakers are claiming sensitivity >90dB 2.83V/1m If you know the distance you listen from the speakers and the dynamic range of your typical music files there are simple formulas to see your amplifier is adequate to not clip.

    -


    There is a video about a different model in the series by a very nonengineering person.

    The crossover diagram for the woofer doesn't have an inductor to do the highpass filter, so it has to . It probably saved money in the 1980s in terms of reducing the number of inductors needed to manufacturer the speaker.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQfLbnIu62k

    His "upgrade" with the Tweeter from Aliexpress and incorrectly valued pre-made crossover made probably those speakers impossible to listen on with the spike at 6k.


    the opportunity to make really decent tapes of CD’s being played.
     
    I would like to get a cassette tape deck. Do you also have a cassette tape collection?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  573. @songbird
    @Gerard1234

    Have heard pine martins are keeping grays at bay in certain pockets of Ireland and Scotland.

    We have reds in America too (though different species.). To a large extent, I would say that you can often find them in the same general neighborhood as grays. Like, in the same woods but not in the same copse. American reds seem more adapted to pines than grays. And I think as a consequence, they are often rarer in suburbs, though you still see them there occasionally.

    Once, a red jumped directly on the back of my neck. I think it was angry at me for interfering with its mating. Though, I still prefer reds to grays. I'd speculate that grays do more damage to houses, gardens, and bird feeders.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP, @Mr. Hack

    Spotting a squirrel (any color) is a rare sight in Phoenix Land. I’ve only seen one in all of the time that I’ve lived here in my backyard. And his appearance was undoubtedly the result of a freak visit as he most likely jumped out of a rental moving truck and stayed for about a week. There were a lots of such trucks in the neighborhood then because folks were moving in and out during the last recession.
    .
    I have seen a few within the Phoenix zoo area roaming around not in cages. I once saw a domestic cat there too that caused quite a commotion when it scurried very quickly in between the zebras and giraffes in the savannah area. People thought that it was more interesting than all of the exotic animals roaming about. It was certainly out of place and everybody got big laugh out of it. 🙂

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    I tried to find instances of cats befriending zoo animals, but all I could find is this story of a cat and lynx in St. Petersburg.
    https://defused.com/cat-befriends-lynx-cat/


    Spotting a squirrel (any color) is a rare sight in Phoenix Land.
     
    Chipmunks (ground squirrel, though they also climb) can be super-aggressive if you leave food unguarded for only a minute or two. If they shriek within 2-3 feet of your ear, it is like a locamotive blowing a whistle or a sonic weapon. The pitch is really penetrating at short distances.

    Grays are so unperturbed by people that they will commonly evacuate their bowels on people sitting under trees, which being a lover of shade I find unpardonable.

    Audie Murphy supposedly fed his family on squirrels when he was a boy. I looked up the state law one day in my woke state. IIRC, in season, you can bag 10 a day. I get the idea that such animals are more protected in Japan.

    One time I was driving on a fairly new highway, and I was amazed at the number of dead grays on it. I had never seen anything like it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  574. @Mikhail
    Ben the idiot is at it again:

    https://www.rt.com/news/589355-ukraine-nazi-germany-hodges/

    What a moron. Recalling his claim that the Kiev regime will have Crimea by the end of the year.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I listened to the first 15 minutes of the interview. General Hodges (ret.) discusses some of the reasons the Ukrainians have been hammered and de facto acknowledges they are in fact being hammered. He seems to be pretending they have an endless pool of manpower to get killed on the front lines.

    My hunch is that Hodges wants NATO to get directly and more heavily involved for training experience. In other words he wants to get a bunch of Polish, German, British and other troops killed in Ukraine so those countries will gear up for larger future wars against Russia and China. The NATO mandarins are probably looking for a way to get these NATO troops more directly involved on the ground (beyond advisors and mercenaries) without going quite to the precipice of WW3. This might be some sort of ‘humanitarian intervention’. Internally this could be sold as an attempt to push Russia partially back to give Ukraine better terms in their 2024 capitulation. It might be sold as a way for Poland to acquire Lviv.

    I doubt the West has the stomach for spending hundreds of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives, but never say never. On the other hand, I can easily imagine that some diabolical monster would come up with the notion that broader NATO-Russia wars are the perfect answer to the world financial conundrum of dollar hyperinflation versus US debt default.

    I don’t think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction. If NATO escalates, Russia has plenty of room to escalate. The losers will be Ukrainians as always, dutiful throw away pawns that they are. It may be that the (((deep state))) wants more civilian damage in Ukraine.
    Interview is here:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction.

    Would you describe nightly shahed drone attacks against Ukrainian cities as trying to limit civilian death and destruction?

    Why is Putin attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25573

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

  575. @Matra
    @John Johnson

    Still trying to pass yourself off as a right winger? lol

    Give it up. No one here ever fell for that.

    Meanwhile in Poland this, reportedly, is the new Minister of Family. As I've said before Catholic Poland is going to die faster than post-Franco Spain and post-Duplessis Quebec. The American Empire is AIDS.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Still trying to pass yourself off as a right winger? lol

    I’ve never claimed to be a right winger. Find a single post where I claim to be a right winger.

    I’m anti-leftist and populist. I am in fact very critical of right wing beliefs on the economy like putting your trust in multi-national corporations to act in good faith on critical matters. I also don’t support an economy where workers struggle while billionaires that weren’t even born here use our country like a personal board game.

    Would you cheer if antifa beat up some cops and stormed a building? Would you call that a peaceful protest?

    Maybe you are comfortable living with double standards but I am not.

    What exactly was gained by Jan 6th? Is Trump president? What was the plan? Get on Nancy’s desk and bang the gavel?

    This type of stupidity only feeds the MSM. I’m sorry if you thought it was some historical moment.

    It was a riot just like the firey but mostly peaceful protest. I’m not afraid to use the R word in reference to Blacks burning buildings or MAGA dorks throwing rocks at the police.

  576. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    A Japanese zoo has launched an investigation after apparently killing 31 of its 40 squirrels by mistake with treatments meant to kill parasites, officials said.

    Keepers at the Inokashira Park Zoo in Tokyo treated the animals with anti-parasitic medicine on 4 December as part of a sanitary precaution, while also spraying insecticide over their nest boxes.

    One of the bushy-tailed rodents – a common Japanese squirrel – died soon afterwards and over subsequent days more and more perished, with 31 fatalities recorded by Monday morning.

    “The possibility of drug-induced poisoning cannot be denied,” the zoo admitted in a statement on Monday.

    “We’re currently investigating the cause of their deaths and observing the conditions of surviving individuals,” they said, adding that a pathological examination of the corpses was under way.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/12/japan-zoo-investigates-possible-mass-squirrel-poisoning

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Vasily Blyukher was the key éminence grise behind Chiang Kai-shek’s 1926 Northern Expedition. While in China he took the nom de guerre 加倫 jiā lún.

    One of the end results the successful expedition planned by Blyukher, was that Chiang would abrogate treaties that Qing signed with Japan after the Russo-Japanese War.

    Blyukher was one of the original five marshals of USSR; only two of which survived the Great Purge.

    Blyukher was not one of the two, despite presiding over the purge of Tukhachevsky just briefly before, he was accused of being Japanese spy and liquidated by NKVD.

  577. @QCIC
    @Mikhail

    I listened to the first 15 minutes of the interview. General Hodges (ret.) discusses some of the reasons the Ukrainians have been hammered and de facto acknowledges they are in fact being hammered. He seems to be pretending they have an endless pool of manpower to get killed on the front lines.

    My hunch is that Hodges wants NATO to get directly and more heavily involved for training experience. In other words he wants to get a bunch of Polish, German, British and other troops killed in Ukraine so those countries will gear up for larger future wars against Russia and China. The NATO mandarins are probably looking for a way to get these NATO troops more directly involved on the ground (beyond advisors and mercenaries) without going quite to the precipice of WW3. This might be some sort of 'humanitarian intervention'. Internally this could be sold as an attempt to push Russia partially back to give Ukraine better terms in their 2024 capitulation. It might be sold as a way for Poland to acquire Lviv.

    I doubt the West has the stomach for spending hundreds of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives, but never say never. On the other hand, I can easily imagine that some diabolical monster would come up with the notion that broader NATO-Russia wars are the perfect answer to the world financial conundrum of dollar hyperinflation versus US debt default.

    I don't think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction. If NATO escalates, Russia has plenty of room to escalate. The losers will be Ukrainians as always, dutiful throw away pawns that they are. It may be that the (((deep state))) wants more civilian damage in Ukraine.
    Interview is here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9CBdzpZEmw

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I don’t think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction.

    Would you describe nightly shahed drone attacks against Ukrainian cities as trying to limit civilian death and destruction?

    Why is Putin attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25573

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Some civilian areas are legit targets regarding basic rules of engagement. Russia much more humane than the Israeli operation. US killed its hare of civilians in historically not so distant conflicts. Kiev regime has been shelling civilians.

    Frontline update w/ Patrick Lancaster
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvdj6-OjB1Y

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away
     
    Why did Nato bomb Beograd and Baghdad if the the front was hundreds of miles away?

    Let's summarize your views:
    - bombing Beograd, Baghdad or Moscow is good, but bombing Kiev is bad...(?)
    - Assange is a criminal - he published leaked docs, but Navalny is a hero - he was convicted for fraud
    - 1,100 demonstrators in Congress should go to prison, but Kura-Mura in jail is the most horrible outrage (!) - even if he openly works for the other side in the war.

    Your narcissism is almost funny - your hysterical attempts to call black white and deny nose between your eyes. Hypocrisy this big is a sign that you know you are losing so you escape into irrational one-sided narratives. Good luck.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Russia is obviously and intentionally limiting Ukrainian civilian casualties and destruction.

    Let's see, they are fighting a much weaker adversary (who they do not hate) in a sort of police action against NATO. The conflict is directly on her border adjacent to the heavily industrialized and armed Western part of Russia. Russia has a top five in the world military and is first or second in heavy bombing capability and top in long range conventional tactical missiles. Ukraine has moderately good air defenses including lots of shoulder-launched short range missiles (AKA MANPADS). Longer range and higher altitude air defenses were initially fairly strong but have been worn down even by Russia's "kid glove" attacks. Western attempts to bolster Ukrainian air defenses are apparently not very successful. Western real time intel does empower the Ukrainian MANPADS enormously against low attitude aircraft strikes and subsonic cruise missiles. As far as I can tell Ukraine has no defense from serious high altitude air-strikes, so it is fortunate that Russia has not emphasized the carpet bombing approach. It looks like a Tu-160 bomber aircraft can carry about eighty, one thousand pound bombs if they decide to play that card. NATO is gambling on Russian goodwill to prevent Ukrainian civilian deaths. This seems ridiculous when you consider the West has been on an avowed path to take down Russia militarily since before the SMO started. Russia is waiting for the Ukrainian in the street to come to his senses.

    The Russian military is attacking valid military targets across the country. They seem to be gradually reducing Ukraine's military capability while making it clear they have good surveillance across the country. This could be part combat and part psywar.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Wokechoke
    @John Johnson

    The Russia s could incinerate Kiev

  578. @AP
    @Gerard1234

    Nice example of failed Soviet civil "engineering" education:

    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many


    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow’s point. “Median” almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two

     

    You don't even know basic statistics.

    Beckow wrote: "thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years"

    Median is the point at which half are lower and half higher.

    So half of the people who were convicted of a crime had a sentence of under 60 days, half had sentences of more than 60 days.

    It's the most important number here, because it suggests most would not have been in jail for two years or more (indeed, of the 1,100 charged not all even got jail time. But of those who did, 50% got sentences of under 60 days and 50% over sixty days).

    proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to
     
    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    Nice example of failed Soviet Civil “engineering” education

    LMAO. Leaving alone the fact you are a lying wakjob and clearly don’t even know what Civil engineering is judging by these dumb comments-it is stating the obvious to say a Soviet Civil Engineer can go anywhere in the west, anywhere around the world and be assured of companies on their knees begging them to work for them (or in the Universities). Soviet Civil Engineering – it’s the highest sign of quality you dumbf**k.

    The portfolio of work is there for everyone to see and requires zero further comment.

    High class Soviet Civil engineering is the one thing in this embarrassingly one-sided annihilation SMO that is keeping the levels of ukronazi-skota-shlukha fertiliser supply at “only” super-super-super high volumes instead of super-super-super-super high amounts you demented retard. LOL. The enormous amounts of very thick, heavily reinforced concrete structures built in any ground conditions at any depth,…or prestressed structures that again completed in any ground conditions, forming any difficult shape and were built decades before for military, industrial and public purposes… are what is sheltering ukronazi pussy soldiers and huge masses of Soviet and western provided weapons, weapons systems, communication centres etc from being vaporised immediately and making them much less vulnerable pre-battlefield deployment… than they would have been in ANY place outside of USSR you imbecile.

    Soviet Union and our great and unique civil engineering heritage is the only thing keeping 404 in a coma from all the annihilation received … but still at least technically alive on a life support machine.

    I did used to work in the nuclear power industry, so we should give massive thanks to the US (LMAO) as the typical American civil engineering f**kups at 3 Mile Island and Fukushima have helped Rosatom earn billions more dollars. Brilliant work!

    America has done some very good civil engineering projects over the years, but go anywhere in Europe (rhetorical question as a fantasist f**kwit lowlife as yourself has never gone there) and you will see better and far more difficult engineering projects to complete than in US.
    Italy always had a good reputation for, but you go to other Mediterranean countries like Spain or even Greece and you see they have done much better road, rail, bridges, power plant projects than equivalent ones in Pindostan.

    The most famous, textbook studied disastrous civil engineering f**kup ALWAYS listed as the worst is the American Tacoma Narrow bridge collapse!!

    Further amusing is that a reject like you sounds like you were rejected from the most reject university course of all history – American Sovietologists – probably the dumbest, fact-free scum in history. As I say, you don’t sound like you were on the course, just that you were rejected and regurgitate crap that these morons might say if they were hit on the head.

    Your medical “knowledge” is as bad as your American Sovietology, as evidenced several times in here when scrutinise on the most BASIC medical knowledge. So yet another fantasist nonsense from human garbage like you. Difficult to say which you are worst at lying about – the Soviet ology…. or the fake medic, LOL.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Gerard1234

    I like this spelling of wakjob.

    , @AP
    @Gerard1234


    Nice example of failed Soviet Civil “engineering” education


    LMAO. Leaving alone the fact you are a lying wakjob and clearly don’t even know what Civil engineering is judging by these dumb comments-it is stating the obvious to say a Soviet Civil Engineer can go anywhere in the west, anywhere around the world
     
    And yet you were caught living in the worst and most post-industrial part of England, alongside hordes from Pakistan. Couldn’t do any better in life.

    And your “education” was such that you didn’t know when to use median versus when to use mean.

    I told you to cry more and you certainly did. For paragraph after paragraph. :-)

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  579. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction.

    Would you describe nightly shahed drone attacks against Ukrainian cities as trying to limit civilian death and destruction?

    Why is Putin attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25573

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

    Some civilian areas are legit targets regarding basic rules of engagement. Russia much more humane than the Israeli operation. US killed its hare of civilians in historically not so distant conflicts. Kiev regime has been shelling civilians.

    Frontline update w/ Patrick Lancaster

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Some civilian areas are legit targets regarding basic rules of engagement.

    Go ahead and explain that for us then.

    Are they military targets or not?

    Kiev regime has been shelling civilians.

    I've asked over a dozen Putin supporters as to where exactly this intentional shelling by the Ukrainian military occurred. None have provided specifics and about half went into off topic rants about the Iraq war of Afghanistan.

    Perhaps you will be the first one to provide an answer of substance?

    Replies: @Mikhail

  580. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction.

    Would you describe nightly shahed drone attacks against Ukrainian cities as trying to limit civilian death and destruction?

    Why is Putin attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25573

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

    attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away

    Why did Nato bomb Beograd and Baghdad if the the front was hundreds of miles away?

    Let’s summarize your views:
    – bombing Beograd, Baghdad or Moscow is good, but bombing Kiev is bad…(?)
    – Assange is a criminal – he published leaked docs, but Navalny is a hero – he was convicted for fraud
    – 1,100 demonstrators in Congress should go to prison, but Kura-Mura in jail is the most horrible outrage (!) – even if he openly works for the other side in the war.

    Your narcissism is almost funny – your hysterical attempts to call black white and deny nose between your eyes. Hypocrisy this big is a sign that you know you are losing so you escape into irrational one-sided narratives. Good luck.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away
     
    Why did Nato bomb Beograd and Baghdad if the the front was hundreds of miles away?

    Let’s summarize your views:
    – bombing Beograd, Baghdad or Moscow is good, but bombing Kiev is bad…(?)

    I haven't said anything about Beograd. Ever. So how would you be summarising my views by using a word I have never written at Unz? See for yourself:
    https://www.unz.com/?s=Beograd&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=John+Johnson

    Once again you have been caught making up total bullshit. Maybe we should start keeping a record?

    Are you incapable of simply answering questions that have been posed to you?

    Do you think anyone that opposes the invasion must be 100% on the side of anything that NATO or the US has done? Is that rational thinking to you? Do you just project mindless fanboyism onto everyone else?

    You're trying to squirm out of a basic question on whether or not Putin is intentionally targeting civilians with Iranian drones.

    Allow me to filter out irrelevant references to other conflicts and provide what we all know is the answer:

    Yes.

    Replies: @Beckow

  581. Agatha Christie’s family welcome diversity in new BBC adaptation

    Apparently, they changed the protagonist of one story into a Nigerian.

    Haven’t looked into the details, but it would be quite amusing, if they got nine more and were making And Then There Were None, under its original title.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @songbird


    under its original title
     
    They should employ actors from the nice state of Niger and call it Ten Little Nigers, but guess at worst, Nigerians in the title would do some justice/tribute too;)
  582. @Mikel
    @Beckow

    I am in general agreement with your major point here. Western criticism of the lack of democracy and rule of law in Russia is very hypocritical. Western countries have done worse things than many they accuse Russia of and things are actually getting worse in the West on such matters like freedom of speech. More importantly, there is no law of nature that mandates that liberal democracy must prevail everywhere. Perhaps it's not the best choice for societies like the Russian and there was never any good reason to encroach them militarily.

    However, it's pointless to deny that some objective differences still exist between the West and Russia. You may argue that the Kremlin sending those hapless spooks to poison Skripal was an MI6 set up or something but you can't deny that the Russians stooped to organizing sham referendums in regions they had conquered militarily with 90% approval results where quite recently pro-Ukrainian parties had obtained a large majority. The West hasn't fallen that low yet. It's almost comical in its shamelessness and makes you wonder what other indignities the Kremlins are capable of.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …objective differences still exist between the West and Russia.

    …and within the West, and with Middle East, Latin America, Japan, etc…nobody would ever deny that. It is not bad, variety is the spice of life.

    hapless spooks to poison Skripal was an MI6 set up…Russians stooped to organizing sham referendums in regions they had conquered militarily with 90% approval results where quite recently pro-Ukrainian parties had obtained a large majority.

    Skripal story was more complex, spooks running galore in all directions – that’s why it was never investigated, too many red lines. You will forgive us for not believing the preposterous simple minded story that you presented. Frankly I don’t know and don’t care that much: Skripal was a weirdo selling everything to all sides…he was a typical mudder.

    The referendums were just like the endless “votes” that the West organized in its conquests – look up some of the more silly ones, they also were “90% plus”. In the Russian ones the people voting were a small self-selected group – Kiev claimed that 75% left Kherson before Russians came. It was about as significant as the 95% plus for Porky after Maidan in Galicia. Or 99% in black districts of Phillie for Biden.

    It’s almost comical…

    The tragedies have become so absurd that they are comical. Kiev’s 50-year old draftees dying for the “right to be in Nato” – what goes through their minds in the last moment, the missed analysts’ buffet in Riga? Zelko dressing up like Che declaring that Kiev is winning…the Estonians screeching that for a “tiny 0.25%” of the GNP EU can defeat Russia and re-claim Crimea. (They just did and there are like 1 million of them.)

    Yeah, let’s also enjoy the times…it is unlikely to end well, and if it does, we won’t see something like this for generations.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @Beckow


    The referendums were just like the endless “votes” that the West organized in its conquests – look up some of the more silly ones, they also were “90% plus”.
     
    I don't know what you have in mind here. The EU has made some members repeat their votes a couple of times after getting inconvenient results but I can't recall anything like annexing regions or countries militarily, organizing referendums there and declaring that 90%+ of the population approved of the annexation. The West can do very questionable stuff from a democratic point of view (see Colorado yesterday) but that's just too banana-republic. We're not at that stage of decay yet.

    Replies: @Beckow

  583. @songbird
    I'm inclined to think Mr. Hack had one of these garages that are built into a hillside and that is where he stored his potatoes.

    But how did he prevent the damp from the geothermal spring from causing blight?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @Mikel

    I’m inclined to think Mr. Hack had one of these garages that are built into a hillside and that is where he stored his potatoes.

    Something unusual went on there, certainly.

    Strangely, the traditional place to store potatoes in the Basque Country has always been the attic of farmhouses. Attics tend to overheat easily but I guess the tile roofs and the cool, maritime climate during the cold season provide a good storage environment in that part of the world.

    Several years ago, though, I came across this video published by the Utah State University and this guy has been my source of truth for potato storage since then. Everything I wanted to know on this fascinating subject but was too shy to ask:

    • Thanks: songbird
  584. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Nice example of failed Soviet Civil "engineering" education
     
    LMAO. Leaving alone the fact you are a lying wakjob and clearly don't even know what Civil engineering is judging by these dumb comments-it is stating the obvious to say a Soviet Civil Engineer can go anywhere in the west, anywhere around the world and be assured of companies on their knees begging them to work for them (or in the Universities). Soviet Civil Engineering - it's the highest sign of quality you dumbf**k.

    The portfolio of work is there for everyone to see and requires zero further comment.

    High class Soviet Civil engineering is the one thing in this embarrassingly one-sided annihilation SMO that is keeping the levels of ukronazi-skota-shlukha fertiliser supply at "only" super-super-super high volumes instead of super-super-super-super high amounts you demented retard. LOL. The enormous amounts of very thick, heavily reinforced concrete structures built in any ground conditions at any depth,...or prestressed structures that again completed in any ground conditions, forming any difficult shape and were built decades before for military, industrial and public purposes... are what is sheltering ukronazi pussy soldiers and huge masses of Soviet and western provided weapons, weapons systems, communication centres etc from being vaporised immediately and making them much less vulnerable pre-battlefield deployment... than they would have been in ANY place outside of USSR you imbecile.

    Soviet Union and our great and unique civil engineering heritage is the only thing keeping 404 in a coma from all the annihilation received ... but still at least technically alive on a life support machine.

    I did used to work in the nuclear power industry, so we should give massive thanks to the US (LMAO) as the typical American civil engineering f**kups at 3 Mile Island and Fukushima have helped Rosatom earn billions more dollars. Brilliant work!

    America has done some very good civil engineering projects over the years, but go anywhere in Europe (rhetorical question as a fantasist f**kwit lowlife as yourself has never gone there) and you will see better and far more difficult engineering projects to complete than in US.
    Italy always had a good reputation for, but you go to other Mediterranean countries like Spain or even Greece and you see they have done much better road, rail, bridges, power plant projects than equivalent ones in Pindostan.

    The most famous, textbook studied disastrous civil engineering f**kup ALWAYS listed as the worst is the American Tacoma Narrow bridge collapse!!

    Further amusing is that a reject like you sounds like you were rejected from the most reject university course of all history - American Sovietologists - probably the dumbest, fact-free scum in history. As I say, you don't sound like you were on the course, just that you were rejected and regurgitate crap that these morons might say if they were hit on the head.

    Your medical "knowledge" is as bad as your American Sovietology, as evidenced several times in here when scrutinise on the most BASIC medical knowledge. So yet another fantasist nonsense from human garbage like you. Difficult to say which you are worst at lying about - the Soviet ology.... or the fake medic, LOL.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    I like this spelling of wakjob.

    • Thanks: Gerard1234
  585. @songbird
    @LatW


    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls,
     
    That sounds like a fun sport, though I was thinking more of some scenes evoked in A Vagabond Journey Around the World Harry A. Franck

    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners, and today, when they know to approach blacks in Tokyo to buy weed.

    During this time, any foreign man would be followed somewhat respectfully, both by the police and civilians, and only a vigorous man could lose his pursuers, for a short length of time, by sliding down steep hills and running.

    your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds?

     

    For the most part, I would say it is more of an interest, than a knowledge.

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.
     
    I really wish that there was something akin to adblock but for gays - I think it really has gotten that bad. I also want a search engine that deranks pages that promote gay stuff.

    Maybe in the South West?
     
    Not too sure, if there were any directly on the Atlantic Coast, but there were lots in the St. Lawrence River Valley and the Great Lakes region.

    Iroquois, Algonquins, Winnebago, Montagnais.

    The Etechemins were sort of on the coast, but with a bit of an asterisk. (You are not exactly on the coast, if you are a couple miles inland in Maine, as Benedict Arnold found out, when he tried to invade Canada.

    But they would’ve done it for ritualistic purposes.

     

    Sure, but that just means it wasn't a rare event, but enmeshed in their culture. Perhaps, that means it was adaptive to their environment.

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners

    Imagine if every nation was that way?

    [MORE]

    and today, when they know to approach blacks in Tokyo to buy weed.

    Most of them are not that way, and Whites are much worse that way (unfortunately). Besides, it doesn’t look like there are visibly that many blacks in Tokyo (not that there should be any at all).

    Maybe they modernized way too fast in late 19th century, I think some of it sounds a bit unnatural. Maybe they were too interested in European norms at the time.

    and only a vigorous man could lose his pursuers, for a short length of time, by sliding down steep hills and running.

    Hahaha, this is really hilarious. A guy goes to a far away land just to have to avoid locals. 🙂
    In Tokyo it’s actually so tight that I don’t see how a Northern Euro guy can even feel comfortable there. A woman could.

    I really wish that there was something akin to adblock but for gays – I think it really has gotten that bad.

    Gosh, I’m so tired of this. And, yes, it’s bad. So many… more than their actual number in population. What is really annoying is how almost all of them seem to reflect a “normal”, domestic, monogamous life – as if this was their norm. How come they don’t make ads showing their true lifestyle? They should do something like what they do with alcohol and medication ads where they ad little letters in the end or little warnings – and then put all the gay related statistics there, such as the number of partners they have on average, whose names they don’t know, the years they stay with one job, etc.

    I also want a search engine that deranks pages that promote gay stuff.

    That would be awesome, there has to be some tech solution for this.

    but there were lots in the St. Lawrence River Valley and the Great Lakes region.

    Where is this described, in what literature? Well, some tribes, in other parts of the world, too, eat their enemy as a ritual. Doesn’t mean they subsist on that.

    Black squirrels abound, they look gothic. 🙂

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Where is this described, in what literature?
     
    Champlain's diary, Relations des Jésuites de la Nouvelle-France, and probably other sources.

    Thinking about it a bit more the Carib ate a lot of fish and shellfish, and according to Columbus, people. The word "cannibal" actually derives from the Carib.

    Of course, a lot of wokes will call it propaganda. But seems silly to me. I don't think they really needed to justify their conquest. And certainly not on those grounds. When the French conquered Lille, I don't think they called the locals cannibals.

    Doesn’t mean they subsist on that.
     
    well, they didn't file their teeth into sharp points (at least most of them), but I am not sure what other distinction can be made. I don't think we can definitely say that it wasn't important to their diet.


    They would only have to eat it occasionally, for it to be so.
    In the 1840s, the average Irishman might have eaten meat twice a year. Am sure hunter gatherers living at lower density ate it more than that, but it doesn't mean there was never a dearth.

    The fact is a lot of Indians lived pretty hard lifestyles - feast interspersed with famine - where it wasn't easy to turn one's nose up at protein and fat. Conditions of warfare could themselves make hunting quite difficult.

    IIRC, there were several instances of colonists or trappers becoming cannibals.

    Replies: @LatW

  586. @Beckow
    @Mikel


    ...objective differences still exist between the West and Russia.
     
    ...and within the West, and with Middle East, Latin America, Japan, etc...nobody would ever deny that. It is not bad, variety is the spice of life.

    hapless spooks to poison Skripal was an MI6 set up...Russians stooped to organizing sham referendums in regions they had conquered militarily with 90% approval results where quite recently pro-Ukrainian parties had obtained a large majority.
     
    Skripal story was more complex, spooks running galore in all directions - that's why it was never investigated, too many red lines. You will forgive us for not believing the preposterous simple minded story that you presented. Frankly I don't know and don't care that much: Skripal was a weirdo selling everything to all sides...he was a typical mudder.

    The referendums were just like the endless "votes" that the West organized in its conquests - look up some of the more silly ones, they also were "90% plus". In the Russian ones the people voting were a small self-selected group - Kiev claimed that 75% left Kherson before Russians came. It was about as significant as the 95% plus for Porky after Maidan in Galicia. Or 99% in black districts of Phillie for Biden.


    It’s almost comical...
     
    The tragedies have become so absurd that they are comical. Kiev's 50-year old draftees dying for the "right to be in Nato" - what goes through their minds in the last moment, the missed analysts' buffet in Riga? Zelko dressing up like Che declaring that Kiev is winning...the Estonians screeching that for a "tiny 0.25%" of the GNP EU can defeat Russia and re-claim Crimea. (They just did and there are like 1 million of them.)

    Yeah, let's also enjoy the times...it is unlikely to end well, and if it does, we won't see something like this for generations.

    Replies: @Mikel

    The referendums were just like the endless “votes” that the West organized in its conquests – look up some of the more silly ones, they also were “90% plus”.

    I don’t know what you have in mind here. The EU has made some members repeat their votes a couple of times after getting inconvenient results but I can’t recall anything like annexing regions or countries militarily, organizing referendums there and declaring that 90%+ of the population approved of the annexation. The West can do very questionable stuff from a democratic point of view (see Colorado yesterday) but that’s just too banana-republic. We’re not at that stage of decay yet.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikel

    You are narrowing it too much, there were post-conquest votes of 90%+ in Kosovo, Iraq, and also in Ukraine where the results were equally one-sided. The game that people play with "but, it is not identical!!!!" doesn't mean much. Yes, in the domestic West there are better, older processes that still work. But the West has never shied away from manipulating elections in places they want to control. If you object to 90%+ results, you are focusing on minutia.

    How about the examples from US inner-city districts where the vote was 99% for Democrats - Phillie, Detroit, Baltimore... They also have amazingly with high turn-outs. But those are details, what matters is that it is not that dramatically different around the world if you look under the hood. But of course most people in the West are well-trained not to even think about doing that. An inner taboo that still works.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

  587. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere
    @S

    Women aren’t allowed to become sushi chefs in Japan because their hands are too warm to handle the ingredients.

    Replies: @S

    It’s said women in Japan got less cancer of the lip than their men as (according to protocol) they would drink their hot tea after their husbands, and hence after it had cooled off a bit.

  588. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction.

    Would you describe nightly shahed drone attacks against Ukrainian cities as trying to limit civilian death and destruction?

    Why is Putin attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25573

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

    Russia is obviously and intentionally limiting Ukrainian civilian casualties and destruction.

    Let’s see, they are fighting a much weaker adversary (who they do not hate) in a sort of police action against NATO. The conflict is directly on her border adjacent to the heavily industrialized and armed Western part of Russia. Russia has a top five in the world military and is first or second in heavy bombing capability and top in long range conventional tactical missiles. Ukraine has moderately good air defenses including lots of shoulder-launched short range missiles (AKA MANPADS). Longer range and higher altitude air defenses were initially fairly strong but have been worn down even by Russia’s “kid glove” attacks. Western attempts to bolster Ukrainian air defenses are apparently not very successful. Western real time intel does empower the Ukrainian MANPADS enormously against low attitude aircraft strikes and subsonic cruise missiles. As far as I can tell Ukraine has no defense from serious high altitude air-strikes, so it is fortunate that Russia has not emphasized the carpet bombing approach. It looks like a Tu-160 bomber aircraft can carry about eighty, one thousand pound bombs if they decide to play that card. NATO is gambling on Russian goodwill to prevent Ukrainian civilian deaths. This seems ridiculous when you consider the West has been on an avowed path to take down Russia militarily since before the SMO started. Russia is waiting for the Ukrainian in the street to come to his senses.

    The Russian military is attacking valid military targets across the country. They seem to be gradually reducing Ukraine’s military capability while making it clear they have good surveillance across the country. This could be part combat and part psywar.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Russia is obviously and intentionally limiting Ukrainian civilian casualties and destruction.
     
    Just compare what Russia did in Ukraine in two years with what Israel did in Gaza in two months. Both in terms of destroying infrastructure and murdering civilians, male, female, and children. The numbers speak for themselves.

    Then compare the coverage of these two wars in Western MSM. Explained by the fact that both current Ukrainian and Israeli regimes are on the same side, that of the empire. Speak of double standards.

    If you are impartial, after that you won’t believe even their weather forecasts.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

  589. We are all outraged by the continued incarceration of Julian Assange and others around the world but we cannot overlook these others and pretend that they don’t matter.

    Putin is no different, its time Alexei Navalny was released and sent west or told no more chances…behave yourself.

    We cannot turn a blind eye to any abuses by state power whomever comit it because we like the power committing the abuse.

    People have a right to live their life in freedom and states have no right to jail indefinitely, if people are feeble minded enough to believe lies then that is their sin and crime because not been informed and sceptical makes our societies lesser places.

  590. @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Some civilian areas are legit targets regarding basic rules of engagement. Russia much more humane than the Israeli operation. US killed its hare of civilians in historically not so distant conflicts. Kiev regime has been shelling civilians.

    Frontline update w/ Patrick Lancaster
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvdj6-OjB1Y

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Some civilian areas are legit targets regarding basic rules of engagement.

    Go ahead and explain that for us then.

    Are they military targets or not?

    Kiev regime has been shelling civilians.

    I’ve asked over a dozen Putin supporters as to where exactly this intentional shelling by the Ukrainian military occurred. None have provided specifics and about half went into off topic rants about the Iraq war of Afghanistan.

    Perhaps you will be the first one to provide an answer of substance?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    You're full of shit as this has been previously provided. No need to waste more time with you on that. Kiev regime has flippantly lobbed projectiles in civilian areas, killing civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure.

    When an armed adversary enters a strategically situated hospital with clear footage as evidence that's considered a legit target.

  591. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away
     
    Why did Nato bomb Beograd and Baghdad if the the front was hundreds of miles away?

    Let's summarize your views:
    - bombing Beograd, Baghdad or Moscow is good, but bombing Kiev is bad...(?)
    - Assange is a criminal - he published leaked docs, but Navalny is a hero - he was convicted for fraud
    - 1,100 demonstrators in Congress should go to prison, but Kura-Mura in jail is the most horrible outrage (!) - even if he openly works for the other side in the war.

    Your narcissism is almost funny - your hysterical attempts to call black white and deny nose between your eyes. Hypocrisy this big is a sign that you know you are losing so you escape into irrational one-sided narratives. Good luck.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away

    Why did Nato bomb Beograd and Baghdad if the the front was hundreds of miles away?

    Let’s summarize your views:
    – bombing Beograd, Baghdad or Moscow is good, but bombing Kiev is bad…(?)

    I haven’t said anything about Beograd. Ever. So how would you be summarising my views by using a word I have never written at Unz? See for yourself:
    https://www.unz.com/?s=Beograd&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=John+Johnson

    Once again you have been caught making up total bullshit. Maybe we should start keeping a record?

    Are you incapable of simply answering questions that have been posed to you?

    Do you think anyone that opposes the invasion must be 100% on the side of anything that NATO or the US has done? Is that rational thinking to you? Do you just project mindless fanboyism onto everyone else?

    You’re trying to squirm out of a basic question on whether or not Putin is intentionally targeting civilians with Iranian drones.

    Allow me to filter out irrelevant references to other conflicts and provide what we all know is the answer:

    Yes.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...I haven’t said anything about Beograd.
     
    Why? You wrote as if the bombing of Kiev (very mild) is an absolute outrage - and yet you consciously write from the pro-Nato side that bombed Beograd. It happened first. By avoiding to mention it you only highlight your hypocrisy - you can't pretend that it didn't happen.

    So what was your view? What happened to the bombers of Beograd and Baghdad? Were they "war criminals"? And how can a society (or you) that did the bombing, and didn't hold anyone accountable, today criticise others?


    Do you think anyone that opposes the invasion must be 100% on the side of anything that NATO or the US has done?
     
    I see, so you are only 90% or maybe 30% on the side of Nato bombings? And that gives you right to complain when the others bomb? Strange. That is literally the definition of hypocrisy (look that up). If you don't apply a rule to yourself you lose the ability to make others to follow that rule. The war is about the Nato expansion to Ukraine, so it matters.

    is Putin intentionally targeting civilians with Iranian drones.
     
    Was it Clinton personally who targeted he civilians in Beograd? Bush in Baghdad? Good to know.

    To answer the question: Russia would claim that they are not doing it intentionally, that it is collateral damage (Nato term). I don't know, I suspect that they don't care too much what gets hit, as the Israel doesn't care what gets blown up in Gaza. It is the same situation - why are you obsessed with one, and ignore or never even mention the other one?

    Replies: @John Johnson

  592. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    The referendums were just like the endless “votes” that the West organized in its conquests – look up some of the more silly ones, they also were “90% plus”.
     
    I don't know what you have in mind here. The EU has made some members repeat their votes a couple of times after getting inconvenient results but I can't recall anything like annexing regions or countries militarily, organizing referendums there and declaring that 90%+ of the population approved of the annexation. The West can do very questionable stuff from a democratic point of view (see Colorado yesterday) but that's just too banana-republic. We're not at that stage of decay yet.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You are narrowing it too much, there were post-conquest votes of 90%+ in Kosovo, Iraq, and also in Ukraine where the results were equally one-sided. The game that people play with “but, it is not identical!!!!” doesn’t mean much. Yes, in the domestic West there are better, older processes that still work. But the West has never shied away from manipulating elections in places they want to control. If you object to 90%+ results, you are focusing on minutia.

    How about the examples from US inner-city districts where the vote was 99% for Democrats – Phillie, Detroit, Baltimore… They also have amazingly with high turn-outs. But those are details, what matters is that it is not that dramatically different around the world if you look under the hood. But of course most people in the West are well-trained not to even think about doing that. An inner taboo that still works.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    How about the examples from US inner-city districts where the vote was 99% for Democrats – Phillie, Detroit, Baltimore… They also have amazingly with high turn-outs.

    Blacks vote Democrats at around 90%. That doesn't mean that 90% of Blacks showed up to vote. It means they vote Democrat 90% of the time. Their turn-out is never amazingly high. Go ahead and cite an election since you seem to know so much about US politics.

    So do you believe the Zaporizhzhia Oblast vote to join Russia was accurate or reasonably believable?

    Even though they overwhelmingly voted for Zelensky in 2019 and did not have a separatist movement?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mikel
    @Beckow


    there were post-conquest votes of 90%+ in Kosovo, Iraq, and also in Ukraine where the results were equally one-sided.
     
    No, there weren't. The West did not militarily conquer Ukraine so there were no "post-conquest" elections there. In fact, pro-Russian parties (now outlawed) continued to win elections in Ukraine-occupied Donbas. Iraq was militarily occupied but there weren't any 90%+ elections there either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Iraq_(2003%E2%80%932011) You know that the referendum results in Kherson and Zaporizhia were as legitimate as the elections in Cuba or Venezuela. Have some mercy and don't make me be on the same side as JJ in a political discussion.

    Replies: @AP

  593. @Beckow
    @Mikel

    You are narrowing it too much, there were post-conquest votes of 90%+ in Kosovo, Iraq, and also in Ukraine where the results were equally one-sided. The game that people play with "but, it is not identical!!!!" doesn't mean much. Yes, in the domestic West there are better, older processes that still work. But the West has never shied away from manipulating elections in places they want to control. If you object to 90%+ results, you are focusing on minutia.

    How about the examples from US inner-city districts where the vote was 99% for Democrats - Phillie, Detroit, Baltimore... They also have amazingly with high turn-outs. But those are details, what matters is that it is not that dramatically different around the world if you look under the hood. But of course most people in the West are well-trained not to even think about doing that. An inner taboo that still works.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

    How about the examples from US inner-city districts where the vote was 99% for Democrats – Phillie, Detroit, Baltimore… They also have amazingly with high turn-outs.

    Blacks vote Democrats at around 90%. That doesn’t mean that 90% of Blacks showed up to vote. It means they vote Democrat 90% of the time. Their turn-out is never amazingly high. Go ahead and cite an election since you seem to know so much about US politics.

    So do you believe the Zaporizhzhia Oblast vote to join Russia was accurate or reasonably believable?

    Even though they overwhelmingly voted for Zelensky in 2019 and did not have a separatist movement?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    The people who showed in the referendums were the self-selected pro-Russian voters...same as the blacks in Detroit. Or the votes for Yushenko-Porky in parts of Galicia and Yanuk in Donbas (both were over 90%).

    If 75% of people left Kherson when Russia captured it - as Kiev claims - the 25% left there were the pro-Russians. It is logical. Is it accurate? If the people who end up living there in the future are the pro-Russians who choose to stay then it is accurate. The electorate of 2019 is irrelevant - they left.

    Vae victis is the rule that you will have to get used to...it is the rule Nato lived by for 20 years so now others do it too.

    Replies: @AP

  594. Didn’t realize until just now the whole of the 1971 film The Last Valley is viewable for free on YouTube. It’s a film about the Thirty Years War which engulfed much of Europe from 1630-48. Micheal Caine says it was one of his proudest performances as ‘the Captain’.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Valley_(film)

    Gotta dig Caine’s spiked helmet at 3:52. It not only protects your head in all sorts of ways but doubles as a highly effective personal weapon! 🙂

    Good speech at 0:39 about what happened at Magdeburg and ‘vengeance’ being at the root of atrocities. The biggest atrocity of all is war. Want to stop the lesser atrocities, stop the big atrocity war.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @S

    The battle with Hansen is a classic skirmish plan. Use the objective of the campaign Killing the Captain to lure in and defeat the enemy.


    Why didn’t The Captain just settle in the pretty little valley with his Erika, like the Professor from Heidelberg told him to?

    Replies: @S

  595. @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away
     
    Why did Nato bomb Beograd and Baghdad if the the front was hundreds of miles away?

    Let’s summarize your views:
    – bombing Beograd, Baghdad or Moscow is good, but bombing Kiev is bad…(?)

    I haven't said anything about Beograd. Ever. So how would you be summarising my views by using a word I have never written at Unz? See for yourself:
    https://www.unz.com/?s=Beograd&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=John+Johnson

    Once again you have been caught making up total bullshit. Maybe we should start keeping a record?

    Are you incapable of simply answering questions that have been posed to you?

    Do you think anyone that opposes the invasion must be 100% on the side of anything that NATO or the US has done? Is that rational thinking to you? Do you just project mindless fanboyism onto everyone else?

    You're trying to squirm out of a basic question on whether or not Putin is intentionally targeting civilians with Iranian drones.

    Allow me to filter out irrelevant references to other conflicts and provide what we all know is the answer:

    Yes.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …I haven’t said anything about Beograd.

    Why? You wrote as if the bombing of Kiev (very mild) is an absolute outrage – and yet you consciously write from the pro-Nato side that bombed Beograd. It happened first. By avoiding to mention it you only highlight your hypocrisy – you can’t pretend that it didn’t happen.

    So what was your view? What happened to the bombers of Beograd and Baghdad? Were they “war criminals”? And how can a society (or you) that did the bombing, and didn’t hold anyone accountable, today criticise others?

    Do you think anyone that opposes the invasion must be 100% on the side of anything that NATO or the US has done?

    I see, so you are only 90% or maybe 30% on the side of Nato bombings? And that gives you right to complain when the others bomb? Strange. That is literally the definition of hypocrisy (look that up). If you don’t apply a rule to yourself you lose the ability to make others to follow that rule. The war is about the Nato expansion to Ukraine, so it matters.

    is Putin intentionally targeting civilians with Iranian drones.

    Was it Clinton personally who targeted he civilians in Beograd? Bush in Baghdad? Good to know.

    To answer the question: Russia would claim that they are not doing it intentionally, that it is collateral damage (Nato term). I don’t know, I suspect that they don’t care too much what gets hit, as the Israel doesn’t care what gets blown up in Gaza. It is the same situation – why are you obsessed with one, and ignore or never even mention the other one?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …I haven’t said anything about Beograd.

     

    Why? You wrote as if the bombing of Kiev (very mild) is an absolute outrage – and yet you consciously write from the pro-Nato side that bombed Beograd.

    I write from the pro-Ukraine side. NATO could disappear and my opinions wouldn't change.

    I want Russia out of Ukraine more than I want Ukraine in NATO. I am on record here stating that Ukraine doesn't need to be in NATO after the war. Military tech will be too advanced for a conventional invasion in 10 years. So there goes your belief that I am writing from a pro-NATO perspective.

    FYI there are non-NATO countries that have made military donations:
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/

    NATO countries in fact were not providing aid until Russia had been pushed out of Kiev. They in fact dragged their feet and I have plenty of criticisms with the US over delaying the aid. Unlike you I can criticize all countries on this planet. I could write a book on all the problems I have with US politics.

    You're trying to legitimatize attacks on civilians by bringing in Belgrade of all things. I don't support attacks on civilian targets in any scenario. I'm on record here as being against the nukes, Dresden and also firebombing Tokyo. I was called a Jew for speaking out against the Hamas rape 'n kill spree and I've long been against Israel using air strikes in heavily populated areas. I also don't support their efforts to raise residential buildings.

    Stop projecting and try to answer questions without assuming everyone is as biased as you.

    To answer the question: Russia would claim that they are not doing it intentionally, that it is collateral damage (Nato term).

    Putin has never claimed that he is trying to avoid civilian casualties.

    Do you think the Iranian 2 stroke engine drones are capable of pinpoint attacks in a dense urban area? If Putin is not attacking military targets then how would that not be a case of trying to terrorize the population?

    Replies: @Beckow

  596. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Nice example of failed Soviet Civil "engineering" education
     
    LMAO. Leaving alone the fact you are a lying wakjob and clearly don't even know what Civil engineering is judging by these dumb comments-it is stating the obvious to say a Soviet Civil Engineer can go anywhere in the west, anywhere around the world and be assured of companies on their knees begging them to work for them (or in the Universities). Soviet Civil Engineering - it's the highest sign of quality you dumbf**k.

    The portfolio of work is there for everyone to see and requires zero further comment.

    High class Soviet Civil engineering is the one thing in this embarrassingly one-sided annihilation SMO that is keeping the levels of ukronazi-skota-shlukha fertiliser supply at "only" super-super-super high volumes instead of super-super-super-super high amounts you demented retard. LOL. The enormous amounts of very thick, heavily reinforced concrete structures built in any ground conditions at any depth,...or prestressed structures that again completed in any ground conditions, forming any difficult shape and were built decades before for military, industrial and public purposes... are what is sheltering ukronazi pussy soldiers and huge masses of Soviet and western provided weapons, weapons systems, communication centres etc from being vaporised immediately and making them much less vulnerable pre-battlefield deployment... than they would have been in ANY place outside of USSR you imbecile.

    Soviet Union and our great and unique civil engineering heritage is the only thing keeping 404 in a coma from all the annihilation received ... but still at least technically alive on a life support machine.

    I did used to work in the nuclear power industry, so we should give massive thanks to the US (LMAO) as the typical American civil engineering f**kups at 3 Mile Island and Fukushima have helped Rosatom earn billions more dollars. Brilliant work!

    America has done some very good civil engineering projects over the years, but go anywhere in Europe (rhetorical question as a fantasist f**kwit lowlife as yourself has never gone there) and you will see better and far more difficult engineering projects to complete than in US.
    Italy always had a good reputation for, but you go to other Mediterranean countries like Spain or even Greece and you see they have done much better road, rail, bridges, power plant projects than equivalent ones in Pindostan.

    The most famous, textbook studied disastrous civil engineering f**kup ALWAYS listed as the worst is the American Tacoma Narrow bridge collapse!!

    Further amusing is that a reject like you sounds like you were rejected from the most reject university course of all history - American Sovietologists - probably the dumbest, fact-free scum in history. As I say, you don't sound like you were on the course, just that you were rejected and regurgitate crap that these morons might say if they were hit on the head.

    Your medical "knowledge" is as bad as your American Sovietology, as evidenced several times in here when scrutinise on the most BASIC medical knowledge. So yet another fantasist nonsense from human garbage like you. Difficult to say which you are worst at lying about - the Soviet ology.... or the fake medic, LOL.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @AP

    Nice example of failed Soviet Civil “engineering” education

    LMAO. Leaving alone the fact you are a lying wakjob and clearly don’t even know what Civil engineering is judging by these dumb comments-it is stating the obvious to say a Soviet Civil Engineer can go anywhere in the west, anywhere around the world

    And yet you were caught living in the worst and most post-industrial part of England, alongside hordes from Pakistan. Couldn’t do any better in life.

    And your “education” was such that you didn’t know when to use median versus when to use mean.

    I told you to cry more and you certainly did. For paragraph after paragraph. 🙂

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    And yet you were caught living in the worst and most post-industrial part of England, alongside hordes from Pakistan
     
    LOL. No-you were caught fantasising about me living in the worst and most post-industrial park of England .....because you are a lying, fantasist, severely disturbed POS. Obviously you dream of that because Russians like me, living in Russia who speak Russian , can easily disprove your maniacally braindead BS. Its proven from multiple examples of your nonsense you have never been to Ukraine/Russia, and in the most comedic way it has been emphatically proven you can't speak the languages. And the sockpuppets blatantly of yours spamming the other equivalent sites.
    You are a sick individual.........and you know it.

    alongside hordes from Pakistan
     
    wtf!! HAHA! Pakistan must be at the same level as wealth as Banderastan you dumb fuck. Certainly superior to the Galicians in GDP. It's a bizarre statement to make because Pakistan's neighbour, Afghanistan ,would be a more suitable equivalent for Ukraine. Imagine how even more wealthy than Galician ukronazis the Pakistanis would be if they had received the same Russian/Soviet great education as them?

    What does it say about 404 that westerners trust the Pakistanis (bordered by the Taliban) to have nuclear weapons ahead of khokhols?!! The provincial mentality with fused with centuries of inbreeding and genetic defects.....must be viewed as far more of a problem in Galicia by the west....and the inbred with genetic defects in Pakistan viewed as far more sophisticated ,LOL.

    You could put about 20000 Pakistani's in Ukraine and they would be taking control of the country's money ahead of Khokhols ....just like the Jews, the americans, the British and others have done and are doing.

    Pakistan has western place names like Abbotabad........... the fake heartland of the fake "Ukraine" is the muslim world-name ,Cherkassy, LOL. It would not shock me if there are more muslim-world names in "Ukrainian" mova - than there are in whatever language in Pakistan.

    Muslims ruled over large parts of India, and you could consider them as Pakistanis. "Ukrainians" never ruled over ANY parts of ANYWHERE of "Ukraine" you dumb shit. They just whored and parasited off mostly Russian land but also the Turks and the Poles.


    Far more Muslims are named in fake "Ukrainian" national myths as "resistors" or practical contributers to the nation - Kozak Mamay, numerous Atamans and Getmans who were muslim converts/turkish citizens.....than any Uniate plankton , who are of course nowhere in these myths, that are written ( or plagiarised from Russian/Soviet liberals) by Uniate diaspora plankton.

    The West took Bid Laden from Pakistan. The homosexual couples of the west (and Belgian paedos probably) take children from Ukraine to raise as their own!!

    Imagine the shame where famous western entertainers looking to adopt children from the poorest countries like Angola,Benin etc - for the 1 famous western entertainer, famous faggot entertain Elton John looking to go "white" in his poor country homosexual adoption.......chooses Ukraine!!!!!

    So in most aspects state management in Pakistan is superior to Banderastan, certainly Pakistani nationalists are superior to Ukrainian nationalists you deranged , racist scumbag.......

    Muslim death cults are far less suicidal and primitive than Ukronazi deathcults - an undisputable fact as we are seeing now and in history.

    How rude for you to talk about Pakistanis like that.........but I suppose for a piece of garbage like you faking trying to be Ukrainian, the best way to fake it would be by showing delusions of grandeur and superiority to others that you have absolutely nothing to base that on, because that is "authentic Ukrainian" behaviour.


    I told you to cry more and you certainly did. For paragraph after paragraph.

     

    Explaining basic things to a retard with severe mental problems, while writing in my third language does require a few short paragraphs. Anyway I have been away from here a few months...you have been writing billions of comments in your non-life during that time. I deserve a few paragraphs.

    Replies: @AP

  597. @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    How about the examples from US inner-city districts where the vote was 99% for Democrats – Phillie, Detroit, Baltimore… They also have amazingly with high turn-outs.

    Blacks vote Democrats at around 90%. That doesn't mean that 90% of Blacks showed up to vote. It means they vote Democrat 90% of the time. Their turn-out is never amazingly high. Go ahead and cite an election since you seem to know so much about US politics.

    So do you believe the Zaporizhzhia Oblast vote to join Russia was accurate or reasonably believable?

    Even though they overwhelmingly voted for Zelensky in 2019 and did not have a separatist movement?

    Replies: @Beckow

    The people who showed in the referendums were the self-selected pro-Russian voters…same as the blacks in Detroit. Or the votes for Yushenko-Porky in parts of Galicia and Yanuk in Donbas (both were over 90%).

    If 75% of people left Kherson when Russia captured it – as Kiev claims – the 25% left there were the pro-Russians. It is logical. Is it accurate? If the people who end up living there in the future are the pro-Russians who choose to stay then it is accurate. The electorate of 2019 is irrelevant – they left.

    Vae victis is the rule that you will have to get used to…it is the rule Nato lived by for 20 years so now others do it too.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    The people who showed in the referendums were the self-selected pro-Russian voters…same as the blacks in Detroit. Or the votes for Yushenko-Porky in parts of Galicia and Yanuk in Donbas (both were over 90%).
     
    Here's a glimpse into Beckow's lying mind.

    Truth or facts don't matter to him at all. It's just appearance. Try to fake something with appearances and it becomes "true."

    90% voted a certain way in Kosovo because the population there is 90% Albanian. 90% Of Galicians are nationalistic so 90% or so of them vote for nationalists. Yanukovich may have padded his numbers a little but his party was very popular in Donbas so 90% is more or less accurate.

    87% vote for annexation to Russia in Kherson is not in the same ballpark at all.

    But it's about 90%, and those other results were also 90%. It's all the same because 90%.

    If 75% of people left Kherson when Russia captured it – as Kiev claims – the 25% left there were the pro-Russians.

     

    Not all or even most. There were older people, people too stubborn to move, etc.

    Moreover, Russia claimed that 571,000 people took part in the referendum; it claimed a turnout of 77%, of whom 87% voted for union with Russia.

    The prewar population of Kherson was slightly over 1 million people.

    Here are the results by oblast in the first round of the 2019 presidential election for the pro-Russian candidate. Note that this does not equal support for pro-Russian separatism. The party's platform was Russian as a second language, peace and economic ties with Russia, but not annexation by Russia. Several of this party's leaders have been fighting the Russian invaders. But some have also become collaborators. I suspect that somewhere between 1/4 to 1/2 of this party's voters could be supporters of annexation by Russia. Probably closer to 1/4.

    This is how many people voted for this party's candidate, Boyko, in the first round of the 2019 presidential election:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png/800px-%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png

    16% in Kherson, 19% in Zaporizhia.

    So even if every one of the voters supporting annexation by Russia stayed behind, they would not be 87% of the voters left behind.

    Replies: @Beckow

  598. @AP
    @Gerard1234

    Nice example of failed Soviet civil "engineering" education:

    Of those sentences the median was 60 days, but many


    LMAO- the key word there being median you f*kup, not that it in anyway changes the excellence and accuracy of Beckow’s point. “Median” almost certainly indicates that the medium, average jail length sentence was over a year, probably two

     

    You don't even know basic statistics.

    Beckow wrote: "thousand(s) of people would then be in jail for years"

    Median is the point at which half are lower and half higher.

    So half of the people who were convicted of a crime had a sentence of under 60 days, half had sentences of more than 60 days.

    It's the most important number here, because it suggests most would not have been in jail for two years or more (indeed, of the 1,100 charged not all even got jail time. But of those who did, 50% got sentences of under 60 days and 50% over sixty days).

    proven to never have gone to countries they claim to have gone to
     
    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    Wow you are dumb. And just a tedious POS. As I said before, Beckow’s point is totally correct.

    So half of the people were convicted of a crime got sentences of over 60 days and 50% got over 60 days

    That number indicates theoretically half of those jailed could all have sentences of exactly 1000 years each, while still having a median of 60 days for the total number sentenced you cretin.
    As even a 3 year old could deduce, the more the numbers in a set of data (and the thousands of arrests here by the US police state is a huge amount) then the less skewed the data is by one outlier – and the more representative of the entire data the medium becomes and the less important is the median then it would be if the numbers were 2,2,4,7,158 trillion. So average jail sentence length is important you idiot.

    Anyway 60 days (plus probation requirements of several years) is extreme even for the standards of the gutter US legal system. That’s before thinking about 4 or 5 years for putting feet on a table or 2 years for walking in a building dressed as a shaman you misdirection dickhead.

    This was a nonevent historically, just some humourous mass event that unintentionally got out of control – it doesn’t require all this melodramatic narcissism that the US sewer political/media system produces. The serious point that this narcissistic scumbag nonsense over nothing is part of the same filth that gives the world fake impeachments involving Soviet Jew 1970s diaspora scum or “foreign power interference” BS that make further impossible banderastan making sane negotiation with Russia under their American masters orders between 2014-2022.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234

    It took you four paragraphs to demonstrate that you still don't understand the proper use of median versus mean when discussing the number of people sentenced to years of jail.

    Soviet-trained civil "engineer" at his finest.

  599. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    I thought that we went over the component specifics 1.5 years ago, when we last discussed this topic? I even remember providing you with some photos of my exact speaker system. Anyway, unless absolutely needed, it should be sufficient to let you know that the receiver was vintage mid 1980's that included an amplifier and radio. It also included a nice cassette tape player within the design too. This offered the opportunity to make really decent tapes of CD's being played. The speakers and CD player ran through the receiver. I think that the "audio-interface" system that you've directed me to is all that is left to include to cover my needs.


    Lol talk about minimalism and hoarding. Now you need 10,000 CD?
     
    Only for my listening pleasure, but not the accompanying CD cases. That's why the whole idea that I've presented is so appealing to me. But perhaps I should totally remove listening to music from my lifestyle? Most even monks, however, allow themselves some musical expression?...

    Replies: @Dmitry

    listening pleasure, but not the accompanying CD cases. That’s why the whole idea that I’ve presented is so appealing to me. But perhaps I should totally remove listening to music

    Well it’s an interesting topic.

    You said you need 10,000 CDs. If you listen to a different album every day with no repeats or vacations it is 27,4 years before you can listen to such high numbers of CDs. More practical would be to listen to a new album every week with no repeats or vacations, then 10,000 CDs is 192 years of music listening.

    In the past times in the 20th century, average music fans in 1960s America would probably listen to a new album every month? New albums were expensive in the 1960s relative to working class income.

    So, 10,000 albums would be 833 years at those kind of rates of consumption for many of the 1960s music fans.

    Streaming is like converting your food cupboard to a supermarket. But the number of units of music you can consume like your stomach size is still fixed and not larger today than in the 1960s.

    Ironically it’s possible people are less music fans today than in the 1960s when they would listen to only around 12 new albums each year.

    Another paradox. In the 1960s, there was more transfer of money to musicians, it was a more normal profession and society was more fanatic about music. While the music fans only had a limited cupboard. While in the 2020s, music fans have a supermarket, while they are becoming less music fans at the same time and society is investing less resources to music industries.

    should be sufficient to let you know that the receiver was vintage mid 1980’s that included an amplifier and radio. It also included a nice cassette tape player within the design too.

    What is the name/model of the 1980s amplifier? Looking at the speakers I guess it actually a complete system which you bought combined?

    that we went over the component specifics 1.5 years ago, when we last discussed this topic? I even remember providing you with some photos of my exact

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-191-russia-ukraine/#comment-5421435

    I don’t specific about the speakers “Technics SB-2460”. But there is information about the series “Technics SB-2***

    Those old speakers are claiming sensitivity >90dB 2.83V/1m If you know the distance you listen from the speakers and the dynamic range of your typical music files there are simple formulas to see your amplifier is adequate to not clip.

    There is a video about a different model in the series by a very nonengineering person.

    The crossover diagram for the woofer doesn’t have an inductor to do the highpass filter, so it has to . It probably saved money in the 1980s in terms of reducing the number of inductors needed to manufacturer the speaker.

    His “upgrade” with the Tweeter from Aliexpress and incorrectly valued pre-made crossover made probably those speakers impossible to listen on with the spike at 6k.

    the opportunity to make really decent tapes of CD’s being played.

    I would like to get a cassette tape deck. Do you also have a cassette tape collection?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    Well it’s an interesting topic.

    You said you need 10,000 CDs.
     
    Obviously, the 10,000 figure was just a metaphor for a whole library of many CD's, not to be taken literally, as you've proven with your math work. Let's say that I want to listen to some Debussy music, perhaps something brand new or even something familiar for that matter. I can go to Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD's including his music that I don't need to go out and buy. Quite a deal. I have a personal library of about 600 books, which is more than enough (I haven't even read them all yet), but it's nice to know that there are libraries, book stores, and even online libraries where I can access other books if the need arises (and it does occasionally).

    Anyway, I'm busy getting ready to go to work and will get back to you on some of your other questions later. I agree with you "it's interesting topic".

    Replies: @Dmitry

  600. @Beckow
    @John Johnson


    ...I haven’t said anything about Beograd.
     
    Why? You wrote as if the bombing of Kiev (very mild) is an absolute outrage - and yet you consciously write from the pro-Nato side that bombed Beograd. It happened first. By avoiding to mention it you only highlight your hypocrisy - you can't pretend that it didn't happen.

    So what was your view? What happened to the bombers of Beograd and Baghdad? Were they "war criminals"? And how can a society (or you) that did the bombing, and didn't hold anyone accountable, today criticise others?


    Do you think anyone that opposes the invasion must be 100% on the side of anything that NATO or the US has done?
     
    I see, so you are only 90% or maybe 30% on the side of Nato bombings? And that gives you right to complain when the others bomb? Strange. That is literally the definition of hypocrisy (look that up). If you don't apply a rule to yourself you lose the ability to make others to follow that rule. The war is about the Nato expansion to Ukraine, so it matters.

    is Putin intentionally targeting civilians with Iranian drones.
     
    Was it Clinton personally who targeted he civilians in Beograd? Bush in Baghdad? Good to know.

    To answer the question: Russia would claim that they are not doing it intentionally, that it is collateral damage (Nato term). I don't know, I suspect that they don't care too much what gets hit, as the Israel doesn't care what gets blown up in Gaza. It is the same situation - why are you obsessed with one, and ignore or never even mention the other one?

    Replies: @John Johnson

    …I haven’t said anything about Beograd.

    Why? You wrote as if the bombing of Kiev (very mild) is an absolute outrage – and yet you consciously write from the pro-Nato side that bombed Beograd.

    I write from the pro-Ukraine side. NATO could disappear and my opinions wouldn’t change.

    I want Russia out of Ukraine more than I want Ukraine in NATO. I am on record here stating that Ukraine doesn’t need to be in NATO after the war. Military tech will be too advanced for a conventional invasion in 10 years. So there goes your belief that I am writing from a pro-NATO perspective.

    FYI there are non-NATO countries that have made military donations:
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/

    NATO countries in fact were not providing aid until Russia had been pushed out of Kiev. They in fact dragged their feet and I have plenty of criticisms with the US over delaying the aid. Unlike you I can criticize all countries on this planet. I could write a book on all the problems I have with US politics.

    You’re trying to legitimatize attacks on civilians by bringing in Belgrade of all things. I don’t support attacks on civilian targets in any scenario. I’m on record here as being against the nukes, Dresden and also firebombing Tokyo. I was called a Jew for speaking out against the Hamas rape ‘n kill spree and I’ve long been against Israel using air strikes in heavily populated areas. I also don’t support their efforts to raise residential buildings.

    Stop projecting and try to answer questions without assuming everyone is as biased as you.

    To answer the question: Russia would claim that they are not doing it intentionally, that it is collateral damage (Nato term).

    Putin has never claimed that he is trying to avoid civilian casualties.

    Do you think the Iranian 2 stroke engine drones are capable of pinpoint attacks in a dense urban area? If Putin is not attacking military targets then how would that not be a case of trying to terrorize the population?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    You are evading the points: Kiev is fighting for Nato and to be in Nato. It follows that they by definition endorse what Nato has done - including the much more murderous bombings of Beograd and Baghdad. That's what matters, not your own personal stand.

    There is no third side: it is Kiev's Ukraine with Nato against Russia with its Ukr allies. All else is noise. Wars do that, they simplify.

    If there were second thoughts in the West about what Nato did in its wars they were silenced - the people who did the wars were rewarded, media celebrated. It is too late to try to start all over - the Ukraine war is part of this recent history.

    That leaves you out on the limb with a non-existent cause: there is no Maidan-Ukraine without Nato. Somebody will win the war and set the new rules - from the beginning it looked like it will be Russia. It still does. Kiev-Nato had a brief moment when they could have salvaged something by making a deal - they refused.

    But your pretense that there is some "third party" that you champion is a fantasy. There isn't. It is Russia or Nato in Kiev. There is no other choice now, if there ever was.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  601. @John Johnson
    @Beckow


    …I haven’t said anything about Beograd.

     

    Why? You wrote as if the bombing of Kiev (very mild) is an absolute outrage – and yet you consciously write from the pro-Nato side that bombed Beograd.

    I write from the pro-Ukraine side. NATO could disappear and my opinions wouldn't change.

    I want Russia out of Ukraine more than I want Ukraine in NATO. I am on record here stating that Ukraine doesn't need to be in NATO after the war. Military tech will be too advanced for a conventional invasion in 10 years. So there goes your belief that I am writing from a pro-NATO perspective.

    FYI there are non-NATO countries that have made military donations:
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/

    NATO countries in fact were not providing aid until Russia had been pushed out of Kiev. They in fact dragged their feet and I have plenty of criticisms with the US over delaying the aid. Unlike you I can criticize all countries on this planet. I could write a book on all the problems I have with US politics.

    You're trying to legitimatize attacks on civilians by bringing in Belgrade of all things. I don't support attacks on civilian targets in any scenario. I'm on record here as being against the nukes, Dresden and also firebombing Tokyo. I was called a Jew for speaking out against the Hamas rape 'n kill spree and I've long been against Israel using air strikes in heavily populated areas. I also don't support their efforts to raise residential buildings.

    Stop projecting and try to answer questions without assuming everyone is as biased as you.

    To answer the question: Russia would claim that they are not doing it intentionally, that it is collateral damage (Nato term).

    Putin has never claimed that he is trying to avoid civilian casualties.

    Do you think the Iranian 2 stroke engine drones are capable of pinpoint attacks in a dense urban area? If Putin is not attacking military targets then how would that not be a case of trying to terrorize the population?

    Replies: @Beckow

    You are evading the points: Kiev is fighting for Nato and to be in Nato. It follows that they by definition endorse what Nato has done – including the much more murderous bombings of Beograd and Baghdad. That’s what matters, not your own personal stand.

    There is no third side: it is Kiev’s Ukraine with Nato against Russia with its Ukr allies. All else is noise. Wars do that, they simplify.

    If there were second thoughts in the West about what Nato did in its wars they were silenced – the people who did the wars were rewarded, media celebrated. It is too late to try to start all over – the Ukraine war is part of this recent history.

    That leaves you out on the limb with a non-existent cause: there is no Maidan-Ukraine without Nato. Somebody will win the war and set the new rules – from the beginning it looked like it will be Russia. It still does. Kiev-Nato had a brief moment when they could have salvaged something by making a deal – they refused.

    But your pretense that there is some “third party” that you champion is a fantasy. There isn’t. It is Russia or Nato in Kiev. There is no other choice now, if there ever was.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Beckow

    You are evading the points: Kiev is fighting for Nato and to be in Nato.

    I'm not evading anything. Ukraine is fighting for their existence.

    We don't know if they will eventually join NATO. A compromise could be reached that keeps them out of NATO. That was supposedly offered by Zelensky at the start of the invasion.

    It follows that they by definition endorse what Nato has done – including the much more murderous bombings of Beograd and Baghdad.

    That doesn't follow at all. I don't care if Ukraine joins NATO so by your own attempt at logic you can't assume I take every NATO position.

    That leaves you out on the limb with a non-existent cause: there is no Maidan-Ukraine without Nato.

    How am I on a limb? I would like Russia out of Ukraine and have stated since the start of this war that Putin could very well walk with a huge Eastern chunk. It was Putin's fanboy bloggers that told us:

    1. A war won't happen, it's just a CIA/MI6 conspiracy
    2. The invasion has started! Ukraine will be defeated in days
    3. Ukraine will be defeated any moment (every month since Feb 2022)
    4. The dollar is doomed (dollar finished ahead of Ruble in 2022)
    5. Russia can produce anything they need (currently short on planes, winter gear, body armor, camo, boots, rations, small arms ammo, medical kits, artillery shells, and eggs)
    6. Putin leading BRICs will change everything (cheap Russian oil for India/Brazil did not create a new world order). Most BRICs countries voted that the invasion is illegal or abstained. Meaning they just want cheap oil.

    Nothing they have said has come true. In fact some of the pro-Putin Unz bloggers at the start of the war no longer mention him. One completely disappeared.

    I will be thrilled if Ukraine recaptures most of their territory. That will lead to a Western infusion of aid and development. Putin is mortal and a future Russian leader could give back the annexed territories. As I pointed out before the only way for Putin to win is to take the entire country. Putin himself said the war is about stopping NATO and that already failed. Finland joined NATO and they have more border with Russia than Ukraine.

  602. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Wow you are dumb. And just a tedious POS. As I said before, Beckow's point is totally correct.


    So half of the people were convicted of a crime got sentences of over 60 days and 50% got over 60 days
     
    That number indicates theoretically half of those jailed could all have sentences of exactly 1000 years each, while still having a median of 60 days for the total number sentenced you cretin.
    As even a 3 year old could deduce, the more the numbers in a set of data (and the thousands of arrests here by the US police state is a huge amount) then the less skewed the data is by one outlier - and the more representative of the entire data the medium becomes and the less important is the median then it would be if the numbers were 2,2,4,7,158 trillion. So average jail sentence length is important you idiot.


    Anyway 60 days (plus probation requirements of several years) is extreme even for the standards of the gutter US legal system. That's before thinking about 4 or 5 years for putting feet on a table or 2 years for walking in a building dressed as a shaman you misdirection dickhead.

    This was a nonevent historically, just some humourous mass event that unintentionally got out of control - it doesn't require all this melodramatic narcissism that the US sewer political/media system produces. The serious point that this narcissistic scumbag nonsense over nothing is part of the same filth that gives the world fake impeachments involving Soviet Jew 1970s diaspora scum or "foreign power interference" BS that make further impossible banderastan making sane negotiation with Russia under their American masters orders between 2014-2022.

    Replies: @AP

    It took you four paragraphs to demonstrate that you still don’t understand the proper use of median versus mean when discussing the number of people sentenced to years of jail.

    Soviet-trained civil “engineer” at his finest.

  603. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    Russia is obviously and intentionally limiting Ukrainian civilian casualties and destruction.

    Let's see, they are fighting a much weaker adversary (who they do not hate) in a sort of police action against NATO. The conflict is directly on her border adjacent to the heavily industrialized and armed Western part of Russia. Russia has a top five in the world military and is first or second in heavy bombing capability and top in long range conventional tactical missiles. Ukraine has moderately good air defenses including lots of shoulder-launched short range missiles (AKA MANPADS). Longer range and higher altitude air defenses were initially fairly strong but have been worn down even by Russia's "kid glove" attacks. Western attempts to bolster Ukrainian air defenses are apparently not very successful. Western real time intel does empower the Ukrainian MANPADS enormously against low attitude aircraft strikes and subsonic cruise missiles. As far as I can tell Ukraine has no defense from serious high altitude air-strikes, so it is fortunate that Russia has not emphasized the carpet bombing approach. It looks like a Tu-160 bomber aircraft can carry about eighty, one thousand pound bombs if they decide to play that card. NATO is gambling on Russian goodwill to prevent Ukrainian civilian deaths. This seems ridiculous when you consider the West has been on an avowed path to take down Russia militarily since before the SMO started. Russia is waiting for the Ukrainian in the street to come to his senses.

    The Russian military is attacking valid military targets across the country. They seem to be gradually reducing Ukraine's military capability while making it clear they have good surveillance across the country. This could be part combat and part psywar.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Russia is obviously and intentionally limiting Ukrainian civilian casualties and destruction.

    Just compare what Russia did in Ukraine in two years with what Israel did in Gaza in two months. Both in terms of destroying infrastructure and murdering civilians, male, female, and children. The numbers speak for themselves.

    Then compare the coverage of these two wars in Western MSM. Explained by the fact that both current Ukrainian and Israeli regimes are on the same side, that of the empire. Speak of double standards.

    If you are impartial, after that you won’t believe even their weather forecasts.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Just compare what Russia did in Ukraine in two years with what Israel did in Gaza in two months
     
    Because Ukraine prevented Russia from advancing too far. But the places where Russia did advance such as Bakhmut, Mariupol, etc. have seen a lot of destruction.

    Is this better than Gaza?

    https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/9c69d37/2147483647/strip/false/crop/2000x1334+0+0/resize/1486x991!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstorage.googleapis.com%2Fafs-prod%2Fmedia%2F30bc1c49fde14408a7d25260e52f4a4b%2F2000.jpeg

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN

    Israel did vote with Russia on the most recent UN resolution condemning that glorification of Nazism. Israel has also refrained from accepting the little tyrant Zelensky's attempt to invite himself to the Jewish state.

    Granted, there's a share of dimwitted Israelis on par with the non-Israeli dimwitted who readily accepted the pro-Kiev regime narrative.

    Kind of related -

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/22102023-answering-biden-on-russia-ukraine-and-israel-palestine-oped/

  604. @Beckow
    @Mikel

    You are narrowing it too much, there were post-conquest votes of 90%+ in Kosovo, Iraq, and also in Ukraine where the results were equally one-sided. The game that people play with "but, it is not identical!!!!" doesn't mean much. Yes, in the domestic West there are better, older processes that still work. But the West has never shied away from manipulating elections in places they want to control. If you object to 90%+ results, you are focusing on minutia.

    How about the examples from US inner-city districts where the vote was 99% for Democrats - Phillie, Detroit, Baltimore... They also have amazingly with high turn-outs. But those are details, what matters is that it is not that dramatically different around the world if you look under the hood. But of course most people in the West are well-trained not to even think about doing that. An inner taboo that still works.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mikel

    there were post-conquest votes of 90%+ in Kosovo, Iraq, and also in Ukraine where the results were equally one-sided.

    No, there weren’t. The West did not militarily conquer Ukraine so there were no “post-conquest” elections there. In fact, pro-Russian parties (now outlawed) continued to win elections in Ukraine-occupied Donbas. Iraq was militarily occupied but there weren’t any 90%+ elections there either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Iraq_(2003%E2%80%932011) You know that the referendum results in Kherson and Zaporizhia were as legitimate as the elections in Cuba or Venezuela. Have some mercy and don’t make me be on the same side as JJ in a political discussion.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel

    Are you really surprised by his brazen lying?

    Replies: @Mikel

  605. @LatW
    @songbird


    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners
     
    Imagine if every nation was that way?

    and today, when they know to approach blacks in Tokyo to buy weed.
     

    Most of them are not that way, and Whites are much worse that way (unfortunately). Besides, it doesn't look like there are visibly that many blacks in Tokyo (not that there should be any at all).

    Maybe they modernized way too fast in late 19th century, I think some of it sounds a bit unnatural. Maybe they were too interested in European norms at the time.


    and only a vigorous man could lose his pursuers, for a short length of time, by sliding down steep hills and running.
     
    Hahaha, this is really hilarious. A guy goes to a far away land just to have to avoid locals. :)
    In Tokyo it's actually so tight that I don't see how a Northern Euro guy can even feel comfortable there. A woman could.

    I really wish that there was something akin to adblock but for gays – I think it really has gotten that bad.
     
    Gosh, I'm so tired of this. And, yes, it's bad. So many... more than their actual number in population. What is really annoying is how almost all of them seem to reflect a "normal", domestic, monogamous life - as if this was their norm. How come they don't make ads showing their true lifestyle? They should do something like what they do with alcohol and medication ads where they ad little letters in the end or little warnings - and then put all the gay related statistics there, such as the number of partners they have on average, whose names they don't know, the years they stay with one job, etc.

    I also want a search engine that deranks pages that promote gay stuff.
     
    That would be awesome, there has to be some tech solution for this.

    but there were lots in the St. Lawrence River Valley and the Great Lakes region.
     
    Where is this described, in what literature? Well, some tribes, in other parts of the world, too, eat their enemy as a ritual. Doesn't mean they subsist on that.

    Black squirrels abound, they look gothic. :)

    Replies: @songbird

    Where is this described, in what literature?

    Champlain’s diary, Relations des Jésuites de la Nouvelle-France, and probably other sources.

    [MORE]

    Thinking about it a bit more the Carib ate a lot of fish and shellfish, and according to Columbus, people. The word “cannibal” actually derives from the Carib.

    Of course, a lot of wokes will call it propaganda. But seems silly to me. I don’t think they really needed to justify their conquest. And certainly not on those grounds. When the French conquered Lille, I don’t think they called the locals cannibals.

    Doesn’t mean they subsist on that.

    well, they didn’t file their teeth into sharp points (at least most of them), but I am not sure what other distinction can be made. I don’t think we can definitely say that it wasn’t important to their diet.

    They would only have to eat it occasionally, for it to be so.
    In the 1840s, the average Irishman might have eaten meat twice a year. Am sure hunter gatherers living at lower density ate it more than that, but it doesn’t mean there was never a dearth.

    The fact is a lot of Indians lived pretty hard lifestyles – feast interspersed with famine – where it wasn’t easy to turn one’s nose up at protein and fat. Conditions of warfare could themselves make hunting quite difficult.

    IIRC, there were several instances of colonists or trappers becoming cannibals.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Relations des Jésuites de la Nouvelle-France
     
    A friend of mine has this book, I was aware that there are some rough parts in it, but don't recall cannibalism. And I watched a movie based on this book, or some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.

    Replies: @songbird

  606. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Russia is obviously and intentionally limiting Ukrainian civilian casualties and destruction.
     
    Just compare what Russia did in Ukraine in two years with what Israel did in Gaza in two months. Both in terms of destroying infrastructure and murdering civilians, male, female, and children. The numbers speak for themselves.

    Then compare the coverage of these two wars in Western MSM. Explained by the fact that both current Ukrainian and Israeli regimes are on the same side, that of the empire. Speak of double standards.

    If you are impartial, after that you won’t believe even their weather forecasts.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

    Just compare what Russia did in Ukraine in two years with what Israel did in Gaza in two months

    Because Ukraine prevented Russia from advancing too far. But the places where Russia did advance such as Bakhmut, Mariupol, etc. have seen a lot of destruction.

    Is this better than Gaza?

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    This is a naive or dishonest comparison.

    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone. Say your prayers and hope that it doesn't come to Kiev. Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.

    Gaza is different. The Israelis want to pretend all Palestinians are human shields or maybe they think: 'hell, wtf we just want to kill them all and be done with it'. Once the world accepts this reality, maybe a few more people will be looking into who pulls the strings in Ukraine.

    Replies: @AP

  607. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    Some civilian areas are legit targets regarding basic rules of engagement.

    Go ahead and explain that for us then.

    Are they military targets or not?

    Kiev regime has been shelling civilians.

    I've asked over a dozen Putin supporters as to where exactly this intentional shelling by the Ukrainian military occurred. None have provided specifics and about half went into off topic rants about the Iraq war of Afghanistan.

    Perhaps you will be the first one to provide an answer of substance?

    Replies: @Mikhail

    You’re full of shit as this has been previously provided. No need to waste more time with you on that. Kiev regime has flippantly lobbed projectiles in civilian areas, killing civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure.

    When an armed adversary enters a strategically situated hospital with clear footage as evidence that’s considered a legit target.

  608. @songbird

    Agatha Christie’s family welcome diversity in new BBC adaptation
     
    Apparently, they changed the protagonist of one story into a Nigerian.

    Haven't looked into the details, but it would be quite amusing, if they got nine more and were making And Then There Were None, under its original title.

    Replies: @sudden death

    under its original title

    They should employ actors from the nice state of Niger and call it Ten Little Nigers, but guess at worst, Nigerians in the title would do some justice/tribute too;)

    • LOL: songbird
  609. @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    Russia is obviously and intentionally limiting Ukrainian civilian casualties and destruction.
     
    Just compare what Russia did in Ukraine in two years with what Israel did in Gaza in two months. Both in terms of destroying infrastructure and murdering civilians, male, female, and children. The numbers speak for themselves.

    Then compare the coverage of these two wars in Western MSM. Explained by the fact that both current Ukrainian and Israeli regimes are on the same side, that of the empire. Speak of double standards.

    If you are impartial, after that you won’t believe even their weather forecasts.

    Replies: @AP, @Mikhail

    Israel did vote with Russia on the most recent UN resolution condemning that glorification of Nazism. Israel has also refrained from accepting the little tyrant Zelensky’s attempt to invite himself to the Jewish state.

    Granted, there’s a share of dimwitted Israelis on par with the non-Israeli dimwitted who readily accepted the pro-Kiev regime narrative.

    Kind of related –

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/22102023-answering-biden-on-russia-ukraine-and-israel-palestine-oped/

  610. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    The people who showed in the referendums were the self-selected pro-Russian voters...same as the blacks in Detroit. Or the votes for Yushenko-Porky in parts of Galicia and Yanuk in Donbas (both were over 90%).

    If 75% of people left Kherson when Russia captured it - as Kiev claims - the 25% left there were the pro-Russians. It is logical. Is it accurate? If the people who end up living there in the future are the pro-Russians who choose to stay then it is accurate. The electorate of 2019 is irrelevant - they left.

    Vae victis is the rule that you will have to get used to...it is the rule Nato lived by for 20 years so now others do it too.

    Replies: @AP

    The people who showed in the referendums were the self-selected pro-Russian voters…same as the blacks in Detroit. Or the votes for Yushenko-Porky in parts of Galicia and Yanuk in Donbas (both were over 90%).

    Here’s a glimpse into Beckow’s lying mind.

    Truth or facts don’t matter to him at all. It’s just appearance. Try to fake something with appearances and it becomes “true.”

    90% voted a certain way in Kosovo because the population there is 90% Albanian. 90% Of Galicians are nationalistic so 90% or so of them vote for nationalists. Yanukovich may have padded his numbers a little but his party was very popular in Donbas so 90% is more or less accurate.

    87% vote for annexation to Russia in Kherson is not in the same ballpark at all.

    But it’s about 90%, and those other results were also 90%. It’s all the same because 90%.

    If 75% of people left Kherson when Russia captured it – as Kiev claims – the 25% left there were the pro-Russians.

    Not all or even most. There were older people, people too stubborn to move, etc.

    Moreover, Russia claimed that 571,000 people took part in the referendum; it claimed a turnout of 77%, of whom 87% voted for union with Russia.

    The prewar population of Kherson was slightly over 1 million people.

    Here are the results by oblast in the first round of the 2019 presidential election for the pro-Russian candidate. Note that this does not equal support for pro-Russian separatism. The party’s platform was Russian as a second language, peace and economic ties with Russia, but not annexation by Russia. Several of this party’s leaders have been fighting the Russian invaders. But some have also become collaborators. I suspect that somewhere between 1/4 to 1/2 of this party’s voters could be supporters of annexation by Russia. Probably closer to 1/4.

    This is how many people voted for this party’s candidate, Boyko, in the first round of the 2019 presidential election:

    16% in Kherson, 19% in Zaporizhia.

    So even if every one of the voters supporting annexation by Russia stayed behind, they would not be 87% of the voters left behind.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Thou protest too much....people in Galicia are Banderites-nationalists, people in Donbas and those left in the Russian-controlled parts of Zaporozhie are pro-Russian. There is no reason to think they would not vote that way - the 2019 election was under heavy nationalist control, in 2022 under pro-Russian control: people go with the flow. Lots of people who voted for Zelko in 2019 were pro-Russians hoping he was a genuine pro-peace candidate who also had a chance to win (Boyko didn't).

    Your desperate ruminations show your poorly developed thinking skills and the deep desperation you have fallen into: Kiev is losing, your "paused offensive" was a bloody failure, Ukies are now trying to draft men (and women) who left the country. The money is only trickling in, the West is losing interest. You autistically focus on unprovable "fraud" in the 2021 election that you or Kiev would never recognize and that makes no difference to the war outcome. This will be decided by force - the details will be filled in afterwards. The identical way Nato operates. Why are you surprised?

    Keep on counting the elderly this-and-that and yelling that Kosovo was "nothing like what's going on in Ukraine" - but it is almost identical, you just look stupid. The chickens are coming home to roost and there is really nothing anyone can do about it. What the f..k were your esteemed leaders thinking when starting the brutal wars to separate Kosovo from Serbia, and then in Iraq, Syria...? And the brilliant idea of Ukraine in Nato and Russians kicked out of Crimea - who are the neo-con idiots that you defend so much? Do you also like their war on Gaza?

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

  611. @Mikel
    @Beckow


    there were post-conquest votes of 90%+ in Kosovo, Iraq, and also in Ukraine where the results were equally one-sided.
     
    No, there weren't. The West did not militarily conquer Ukraine so there were no "post-conquest" elections there. In fact, pro-Russian parties (now outlawed) continued to win elections in Ukraine-occupied Donbas. Iraq was militarily occupied but there weren't any 90%+ elections there either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Iraq_(2003%E2%80%932011) You know that the referendum results in Kherson and Zaporizhia were as legitimate as the elections in Cuba or Venezuela. Have some mercy and don't make me be on the same side as JJ in a political discussion.

    Replies: @AP

    Are you really surprised by his brazen lying?

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP

    We're just having a political discussion. He's right on some matters and wrong on others, whether he sees it or not. So are you and the rest of us. No need to pollute things with personal accusations.

  612. @songbird
    @LatW


    Well, I can see how you long to be chased by those Japanese schoolgirls,
     
    That sounds like a fun sport, though I was thinking more of some scenes evoked in A Vagabond Journey Around the World Harry A. Franck

    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners, and today, when they know to approach blacks in Tokyo to buy weed.

    During this time, any foreign man would be followed somewhat respectfully, both by the police and civilians, and only a vigorous man could lose his pursuers, for a short length of time, by sliding down steep hills and running.

    your deep knowledge of anthropology and North American wild animals and birds?

     

    For the most part, I would say it is more of an interest, than a knowledge.

    Gays like Anderson Cooper (or any gays) should not get as much air time to talk about their private endeavors as he does.
     
    I really wish that there was something akin to adblock but for gays - I think it really has gotten that bad. I also want a search engine that deranks pages that promote gay stuff.

    Maybe in the South West?
     
    Not too sure, if there were any directly on the Atlantic Coast, but there were lots in the St. Lawrence River Valley and the Great Lakes region.

    Iroquois, Algonquins, Winnebago, Montagnais.

    The Etechemins were sort of on the coast, but with a bit of an asterisk. (You are not exactly on the coast, if you are a couple miles inland in Maine, as Benedict Arnold found out, when he tried to invade Canada.

    But they would’ve done it for ritualistic purposes.

     

    Sure, but that just means it wasn't a rare event, but enmeshed in their culture. Perhaps, that means it was adaptive to their environment.

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners

    Why don’t you give a reference for this outrageous claim.

    There was also a time when Irish in Britain and America were treated as subhuman simian. They would have been better off in Japan.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Why don’t you give a reference for this outrageous claim.
     
    Hyberbole and poetic license on my part based on the Era of Exclusion.

    But for example, they did generally fire on all foreign vessels, outside of Nagasaki. They fired on the Morrison, which was carrying 7 ship-wrecked Japanese at two separate ports, and it was hit by a cannnonball and gave up on trying to return them.

    And one could go to a later period and adduce the Kanto massacre.

    They would have been better off in Japan.
     
    Probably Japan would not have been motivated by the economic ideology of Adam Smith during the Famine. But, OTOH, they might not have had the industrial capacity to buy the necessary food or the shipping power, supposing the country was in adjacent waters with the climate conserved. (Though this itself would have introduced differences such as making the Western coast more navigable.)

    If we brought them together earlier, I would be surprised if the feudal system didn't result in a similar policy of settlement. (And potentially worse, due to more obvious racial differences.)

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  613. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ

    The West has never disliked anything that could hurt Russia..but I don't think there is one, and if there was it would be really tiny.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    The top MMA female is Chinese, and she can kick your teeth out. You dumb rat.

    Funny that your country is shaped like a small flaccid penis, and behaves like one too. Making deals with people that would have turned you into fertilizer.

    Magyars themselves came from Asia, so your female ancestors have given plenty of pleasure to Asian men.

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    top MMA female is Chinese
     
    Can't keep myself from posting the video in this instance, but Namajunas can kick his teeth too, lol
    It was several years ago, but still never stops being funny that majority of Russian comments seems to be rooting for Lithuanian Rose which was fighting for USA against Chinese champion;)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzgiRGZRpu0

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  614. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Just compare what Russia did in Ukraine in two years with what Israel did in Gaza in two months
     
    Because Ukraine prevented Russia from advancing too far. But the places where Russia did advance such as Bakhmut, Mariupol, etc. have seen a lot of destruction.

    Is this better than Gaza?

    https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/9c69d37/2147483647/strip/false/crop/2000x1334+0+0/resize/1486x991!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstorage.googleapis.com%2Fafs-prod%2Fmedia%2F30bc1c49fde14408a7d25260e52f4a4b%2F2000.jpeg

    Replies: @QCIC

    This is a naive or dishonest comparison.

    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone. Say your prayers and hope that it doesn’t come to Kiev. Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.

    Gaza is different. The Israelis want to pretend all Palestinians are human shields or maybe they think: ‘hell, wtf we just want to kill them all and be done with it’. Once the world accepts this reality, maybe a few more people will be looking into who pulls the strings in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @AP
    @QCIC


    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone.
     
    So Ukraine encouraged the evacuation of civilians while Hamas did not.

    Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.
     
    Russia attacks a country's cities which have soldiers and military infrastructure in them, thereby killing civilians in those cities.

    Gaza is different.
     
    Of course it is.

    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza, triggering the Israeli response. Ukraine did not leave Ukraine's borders prior to being attacked.

    Ukraine encourages evacuation from front-line war zones.

    Hamas prevented evacuation from the war zone.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @LondonBob, @AnonfromTN

  615. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    Not to worry, once the Korea's reunite the population will stabilize. By 2070 Russia may have to fight off China and New Korea at Vladivostok.

    The USA should not "risk" anything over the Ukraine situation which is essentially a problem created by the West. Korea is similar, but they have made it far enough to figure things out themselves. It will be interesting to see what the Koreans deduce from the Western debacle in Ukraine.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    By 2070 Russia may have to fight off China and New Korea at Vladivostok.

    You are going to be compost by then, so what are you worried about?

    It was America who allied with China to take down the Soviet Union

    It was America who raped Russia after Soviet break up; China did nothing to grab Russian lands.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-rape-of-russia-explained-by-anne/

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I know all that. I am not worried about it but some diplomats in Russia and China think about the long game.

    I also know that China cannot readily grow West, South or East. Once fission power comes back or we get fusion working it may not matter too much. Maybe the Chinese will say no, it's too cold up there.

  616. @S
    Didn't realize until just now the whole of the 1971 film The Last Valley is viewable for free on YouTube. It's a film about the Thirty Years War which engulfed much of Europe from 1630-48. Micheal Caine says it was one of his proudest performances as 'the Captain'.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Valley_(film)

    Gotta dig Caine's spiked helmet at 3:52. It not only protects your head in all sorts of ways but doubles as a highly effective personal weapon! :-)

    https://youtu.be/ajSF1com_BU?si=LW9y2_vCIWfmeBJZ

    Good speech at 0:39 about what happened at Magdeburg and 'vengeance' being at the root of atrocities. The biggest atrocity of all is war. Want to stop the lesser atrocities, stop the big atrocity war.

    https://youtu.be/e3Tp8XY6vwQ?si=3Sdl8vDTr5QS8Uhj

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    The battle with Hansen is a classic skirmish plan. Use the objective of the campaign Killing the Captain to lure in and defeat the enemy.

    Why didn’t The Captain just settle in the pretty little valley with his Erika, like the Professor from Heidelberg told him to?

    • Replies: @S
    @Wokechoke


    Why didn’t The Captain just settle in the pretty little valley with his Erika, like the Professor from Heidelberg told him to?
     
    That's a good question.

    Some people just don't know a good thing when they've got it and have to do everything the hard way.
  617. @QCIC
    @AP

    This is a naive or dishonest comparison.

    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone. Say your prayers and hope that it doesn't come to Kiev. Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.

    Gaza is different. The Israelis want to pretend all Palestinians are human shields or maybe they think: 'hell, wtf we just want to kill them all and be done with it'. Once the world accepts this reality, maybe a few more people will be looking into who pulls the strings in Ukraine.

    Replies: @AP

    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone.

    So Ukraine encouraged the evacuation of civilians while Hamas did not.

    Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.

    Russia attacks a country’s cities which have soldiers and military infrastructure in them, thereby killing civilians in those cities.

    Gaza is different.

    Of course it is.

    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza, triggering the Israeli response. Ukraine did not leave Ukraine’s borders prior to being attacked.

    Ukraine encourages evacuation from front-line war zones.

    Hamas prevented evacuation from the war zone.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AP

    The Kiev regime does the latter.

    , @LondonBob
    @AP

    Israel invaded Palestine, with ethnic cleansing on their mind.

    Ukraine invaded Donbass, with ethnic cleansing on their mind.

    Replies: @A123

    , @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza
     
    FYI, many of the kibbutzes and Israeli military bases attacked by Hamas were not on Israeli territory, but on Gaza territory annexed by Israel. Just compare UN maps of 1946-47 with today’s ones.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.
     
    How about comparing numbers? Total numbers, per day numbers, the numbers of killed children, total and per day.

    I know honesty is politically incorrect. The reality would debunk the narratives promoted by the shameless empire and its equally shameless sidekicks.

    Replies: @AP

  618. @AP
    @QCIC


    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone.
     
    So Ukraine encouraged the evacuation of civilians while Hamas did not.

    Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.
     
    Russia attacks a country's cities which have soldiers and military infrastructure in them, thereby killing civilians in those cities.

    Gaza is different.
     
    Of course it is.

    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza, triggering the Israeli response. Ukraine did not leave Ukraine's borders prior to being attacked.

    Ukraine encourages evacuation from front-line war zones.

    Hamas prevented evacuation from the war zone.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @LondonBob, @AnonfromTN

    The Kiev regime does the latter.

  619. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Beckow

    The top MMA female is Chinese, and she can kick your teeth out. You dumb rat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4l7tHKHwbU

    Funny that your country is shaped like a small flaccid penis, and behaves like one too. Making deals with people that would have turned you into fertilizer.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Jozef_Tiso_%28Berlin%29.jpg

    Magyars themselves came from Asia, so your female ancestors have given plenty of pleasure to Asian men.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Migration_of_Hungarians.jpg

    Replies: @sudden death

    top MMA female is Chinese

    Can’t keep myself from posting the video in this instance, but Namajunas can kick his teeth too, lol
    It was several years ago, but still never stops being funny that majority of Russian comments seems to be rooting for Lithuanian Rose which was fighting for USA against Chinese champion;)

    • Replies: @LatW
    @sudden death

    Holy Mother of Christ! :)

    Incredible kick. And she's moving the whole time and so lightly.

    LOL Great grandpa would be proud. :)

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @sudden death


    Namajunas can kick his teeth too
     
    Indeed.

    So it happens the father of Sambo grew up in Japan and even went back there in 1924, after the Kanto Massacre

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/VSOshchepkov1912.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Oshchepkov

    And for being too Japanophilic, he did not survive the Great Purge. But his legacy lives on

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дзюдо_в_России_и_СССР

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  620. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @QCIC


    By 2070 Russia may have to fight off China and New Korea at Vladivostok.
     
    You are going to be compost by then, so what are you worried about?

    It was America who allied with China to take down the Soviet Union

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Kissinger_Mao.jpg

    It was America who raped Russia after Soviet break up; China did nothing to grab Russian lands.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-rape-of-russia-explained-by-anne/

    Replies: @QCIC

    I know all that. I am not worried about it but some diplomats in Russia and China think about the long game.

    I also know that China cannot readily grow West, South or East. Once fission power comes back or we get fusion working it may not matter too much. Maybe the Chinese will say no, it’s too cold up there.

  621. @songbird
    @LatW


    Where is this described, in what literature?
     
    Champlain's diary, Relations des Jésuites de la Nouvelle-France, and probably other sources.

    Thinking about it a bit more the Carib ate a lot of fish and shellfish, and according to Columbus, people. The word "cannibal" actually derives from the Carib.

    Of course, a lot of wokes will call it propaganda. But seems silly to me. I don't think they really needed to justify their conquest. And certainly not on those grounds. When the French conquered Lille, I don't think they called the locals cannibals.

    Doesn’t mean they subsist on that.
     
    well, they didn't file their teeth into sharp points (at least most of them), but I am not sure what other distinction can be made. I don't think we can definitely say that it wasn't important to their diet.


    They would only have to eat it occasionally, for it to be so.
    In the 1840s, the average Irishman might have eaten meat twice a year. Am sure hunter gatherers living at lower density ate it more than that, but it doesn't mean there was never a dearth.

    The fact is a lot of Indians lived pretty hard lifestyles - feast interspersed with famine - where it wasn't easy to turn one's nose up at protein and fat. Conditions of warfare could themselves make hunting quite difficult.

    IIRC, there were several instances of colonists or trappers becoming cannibals.

    Replies: @LatW

    Relations des Jésuites de la Nouvelle-France

    A friend of mine has this book, I was aware that there are some rough parts in it, but don’t recall cannibalism. And I watched a movie based on this book, or some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    But don’t recall cannibalism.
     
    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:
    https://historyweblog.com/2017/06/tortures-of-the-algonquin-prisoners/

    some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.
     
    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the '50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.

    Meanwhile Canada is super-woke on Indians, both feather and dot. They just sang O Canada! in Punjabi at an NHL game. Sher Singh might not have even known the words.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @S

  622. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird


    There was a short golden time, between when the Japanese would kill all foreigners
     
    Why don't you give a reference for this outrageous claim.

    There was also a time when Irish in Britain and America were treated as subhuman simian. They would have been better off in Japan.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Monkeyirishman.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/The_Bugaboo_of_Congress_-_Puck.png

    Replies: @songbird

    Why don’t you give a reference for this outrageous claim.

    Hyberbole and poetic license on my part based on the Era of Exclusion.

    [MORE]

    But for example, they did generally fire on all foreign vessels, outside of Nagasaki. They fired on the Morrison, which was carrying 7 ship-wrecked Japanese at two separate ports, and it was hit by a cannnonball and gave up on trying to return them.

    And one could go to a later period and adduce the Kanto massacre.

    They would have been better off in Japan.

    Probably Japan would not have been motivated by the economic ideology of Adam Smith during the Famine. But, OTOH, they might not have had the industrial capacity to buy the necessary food or the shipping power, supposing the country was in adjacent waters with the climate conserved. (Though this itself would have introduced differences such as making the Western coast more navigable.)

    If we brought them together earlier, I would be surprised if the feudal system didn’t result in a similar policy of settlement. (And potentially worse, due to more obvious racial differences.)

    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    Why do you hide your comments like you are doing something dishonest?

    The incident you mentioned was 1837

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrison_incident

    The first Europeans to arrive in 1543 had taken Japanese as slaves.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Portugal#Asians

    Russians were there in 1811 and they were sent back with gifts exchanged.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Capture_of_Russians_and_Vasily_Golovnin_by_Tokugawa_c1811_Part_5.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golovnin_Incident

    Kanto earthquake 1923 was a six-digit death toll disaster. If something like that had happened in British Isles, ethnic tensions might exacerbate and a lot more of Irish might made into mincemeat, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Ireland

    Russians and other Slavs started arriving in Japan in 1920's and more came after the earthquake

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Japan#Russian_Revolution

    Replies: @songbird

  623. @sudden death
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    top MMA female is Chinese
     
    Can't keep myself from posting the video in this instance, but Namajunas can kick his teeth too, lol
    It was several years ago, but still never stops being funny that majority of Russian comments seems to be rooting for Lithuanian Rose which was fighting for USA against Chinese champion;)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzgiRGZRpu0

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Holy Mother of Christ! 🙂

    Incredible kick. And she’s moving the whole time and so lightly.

    LOL Great grandpa would be proud. 🙂

  624. @AP
    @Mikel

    Are you really surprised by his brazen lying?

    Replies: @Mikel

    We’re just having a political discussion. He’s right on some matters and wrong on others, whether he sees it or not. So are you and the rest of us. No need to pollute things with personal accusations.

  625. @LatW
    @songbird


    Relations des Jésuites de la Nouvelle-France
     
    A friend of mine has this book, I was aware that there are some rough parts in it, but don't recall cannibalism. And I watched a movie based on this book, or some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.

    Replies: @songbird

    But don’t recall cannibalism.

    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:
    https://historyweblog.com/2017/06/tortures-of-the-algonquin-prisoners/

    some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.

    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.

    Meanwhile Canada is super-woke on Indians, both feather and dot. They just sang O Canada! in Punjabi at an NHL game. Sher Singh might not have even known the words.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents
     
    Well, most of these accounts are really based on just that one Jesuit book (plus the diaries you mention). These are witness accounts, but who knows how accurate they are (probably not entirely inaccurate). Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned. So I was well aware that the Indians could be cruel, just like other peoples. These sound like stressed out tribes at war with each other. Although the Iroquois had a confederacy.

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.
     
    Perhaps, the Lone Ranger show offered a bit of balance to the typical Hollywood depiction of American Indians as being only a cutthroat and savage race, picking on the innocent noble white race? I grew up watching this show and enjoyed the comradery and friendship displayed between the Lone Ranger and Tonto.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @S
    @songbird


    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:
     
    Ever hear of St Clair's defeat, also known as the Battle of the Wabash, which took place on November 4, 1791? It was far worse than Custer's Last Stand.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair%27s_defeat

    One quarter of the entire US army was destroyed in a single day by the Northwestern Confederacy of Indian tribes. For days afterwards the Indian tribes were said to be operating 'execution fires', ie the burning alive of wounded. Sixty years after the battle the local townspeople organized a 'Bone Burying Day' to inter the last of the unburied remains on the battlefield.

    'The casualty rate was the highest percentage ever suffered by a United States Army unit and included St. Clair's second in command, Richard Butler...Sixty years after the battle, in September 1851, the town organized Bone Burying Day to inter the remains of bones discovered at that location.'


    'The casualty rate was the highest percentage ever suffered by a United States Army unit and included St. Clair's second in command, Richard Butler. Of the 52 officers engaged, 39 were killed and 7 wounded; around 88% of all officers had become casualties. The American casualty rate among the soldiers was 97 percent, including 632 of 920 killed (69%) and 264 wounded. Nearly all of the 200 camp followers were slaughtered, for a total of 832 Americans killed. Due to its relatively small size at the time, approximately one-quarter of the entire U.S. Army had been destroyed in one day. Only 24 of the 920 officers and men engaged came out of it unscathed. The survivors included Benjamin Van Cleve and his uncle Robert Benham; Van Cleve was one of the few who were unharmed. Native casualties were about 61, with at least 21 killed.'

    'So many people died on site that when 300 soldiers from the Legion of the United States returned to the site in late 1793, they identified the site by the unburied human remains. The detachment had to move bones to make space for their beds. The Legion buried remains in a mass grave. Sixty years after the battle, in September 1851, the town organized Bone Burying Day to inter the remains of bones discovered at that location. Historian William Hogeland calls the Native American victory "the high-water mark in resistance to white expansion. No comparable Indian victory would follow."'
     

    Replies: @songbird

  626. @songbird
    @LatW


    But don’t recall cannibalism.
     
    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:
    https://historyweblog.com/2017/06/tortures-of-the-algonquin-prisoners/

    some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.
     
    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the '50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.

    Meanwhile Canada is super-woke on Indians, both feather and dot. They just sang O Canada! in Punjabi at an NHL game. Sher Singh might not have even known the words.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @S

    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents

    Well, most of these accounts are really based on just that one Jesuit book (plus the diaries you mention). These are witness accounts, but who knows how accurate they are (probably not entirely inaccurate). Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned. So I was well aware that the Indians could be cruel, just like other peoples. These sound like stressed out tribes at war with each other. Although the Iroquois had a confederacy.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    It's not really something that would be documented in depth. Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros. Indians perceived their advanced technology and were influenced by their taboos, religion, and even diet, so there was only a small window of observation.


    Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned.
     
    Last of the Mohicans? The Algonquins (Mohicans) were good guys in that. The villains were Iroquois.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    So I was well aware that the Indians could be cruel, just like other peoples.

    The Comanches were singularly accomplished. This book will give you willies:

    https://www.amazon.com/Comanches-History-People-T-R-Fehrenbach/dp/1400030498

    Replies: @LondonBob

  627. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    Spotting a squirrel (any color) is a rare sight in Phoenix Land. I've only seen one in all of the time that I've lived here in my backyard. And his appearance was undoubtedly the result of a freak visit as he most likely jumped out of a rental moving truck and stayed for about a week. There were a lots of such trucks in the neighborhood then because folks were moving in and out during the last recession.
    .
    I have seen a few within the Phoenix zoo area roaming around not in cages. I once saw a domestic cat there too that caused quite a commotion when it scurried very quickly in between the zebras and giraffes in the savannah area. People thought that it was more interesting than all of the exotic animals roaming about. It was certainly out of place and everybody got big laugh out of it. :-)

    Replies: @songbird

    I tried to find instances of cats befriending zoo animals, but all I could find is this story of a cat and lynx in St. Petersburg.

    [MORE]

    https://defused.com/cat-befriends-lynx-cat/

    Spotting a squirrel (any color) is a rare sight in Phoenix Land.

    Chipmunks (ground squirrel, though they also climb) can be super-aggressive if you leave food unguarded for only a minute or two. If they shriek within 2-3 feet of your ear, it is like a locamotive blowing a whistle or a sonic weapon. The pitch is really penetrating at short distances.

    Grays are so unperturbed by people that they will commonly evacuate their bowels on people sitting under trees, which being a lover of shade I find unpardonable.

    Audie Murphy supposedly fed his family on squirrels when he was a boy. I looked up the state law one day in my woke state. IIRC, in season, you can bag 10 a day. I get the idea that such animals are more protected in Japan.

    One time I was driving on a fairly new highway, and I was amazed at the number of dead grays on it. I had never seen anything like it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    One of the earliest memories that I have, is of my father going out on our driveway with some nuts, and interacting with a grey squirrel. Somehow, he would attract the squirrel and get him to jump onto his pants and then he'd climb up his side all the way up to his shoulders and then get rewarded with some nuts. Afterwards, he would complete the trip by going to the other side (going behind his neck) and traveling down his other side and leg and then make his exit This was a show that my father would put on for my benefit, that I still remember to this day. Of course, it didn't hurt any that my father was of course of the same line of Ukrainian shamans as I. Otherwise, "Something unusual went on there, certainly." :-)

    Replies: @QCIC

  628. @LatW
    @songbird


    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents
     
    Well, most of these accounts are really based on just that one Jesuit book (plus the diaries you mention). These are witness accounts, but who knows how accurate they are (probably not entirely inaccurate). Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned. So I was well aware that the Indians could be cruel, just like other peoples. These sound like stressed out tribes at war with each other. Although the Iroquois had a confederacy.

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    It’s not really something that would be documented in depth. Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros. Indians perceived their advanced technology and were influenced by their taboos, religion, and even diet, so there was only a small window of observation.

    Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned.

    Last of the Mohicans? The Algonquins (Mohicans) were good guys in that. The villains were Iroquois.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros.
     
    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes. Which I find really cool. And they differ by looks and temperament.

    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I'd have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it "biased" today after what I've learned. Love those wild nature scenes.

    Replies: @songbird, @Matra, @Gerard1234

    , @LatW
    @songbird

    And, btw, even though I like the Injuns a lot, I'm quite red pilled about them. For example, in some tribes they were super strict about abortion. And there is violence against women on the rez sometimes. I'm totally aware of this (they're not all angels).

  629. @songbird
    @LatW

    It's not really something that would be documented in depth. Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros. Indians perceived their advanced technology and were influenced by their taboos, religion, and even diet, so there was only a small window of observation.


    Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned.
     
    Last of the Mohicans? The Algonquins (Mohicans) were good guys in that. The villains were Iroquois.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros.

    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes. Which I find really cool. And they differ by looks and temperament.

    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I’d have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it “biased” today after what I’ve learned. Love those wild nature scenes.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    The movie was called Black Robe.
     
    Haven't seen it.

    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes.

     

    Have heard that the last Europeans to have tribes were the Montenegrins. I've been curious if a more detailed description of them might exist than in other places.

    For example, in some tribes they were super strict about abortion.
     
    well, their numbers are declining, and traditionally, they didn't care much about legitimacy, other than the man potentially being cucked. Plus they don't have a lot and need a spiritual glue to unite them.

    I must be honest with you, LatW.

    Putting all the hardnosed mathematical considerations aside, in the past, I have often been very offput by teenage girls volunteering how they have essentially adopted the most anti-Euro political affiliation, seemingly based on a single issue: the desire to choose their sexual partner lightly, not use birth control, and then - and here is where I think of Indians, though a little unfairly - give birth and bash the babies head against a tree-trunk, just as an Indian warrior might to to an enemy's child.

    Perhaps, that is an unfair characterization and they are thinking of something else like rape. But IMO it is not a pleasing attitude in a potential mate.

    And there is violence against women on the rez sometimes.
     
    I wonder how much of it is alcohol.

    I was thinking recently about Roman attitudes toward beer (quite negative), and wondering if a lot of it was about alcohol tolerance clines, and they didn't realize it.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Matra
    @LatW


    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I’d have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it “biased” today after what I’ve learned. Love those wild nature scenes
     
    In my first year at university I had to write a book review on The Jesuit Letters and Allied Documents which I assume was the source material for the novel Black Robe, written by Brian Moore, himself a non-believing Catholic from Northern Ireland. I rented the movie right after handing in my review aware that the movie was criticised for its "savage" portrayal of what Canadians now call First Nations. My conclusion after reading so many in-depth Jesuit letters about their New France experiences was that the filmmaker had actually gone easy on the Indians. There was also one fairly condescending scene in which a French settler, who rejects the faith and goes off with an Indian woman, mocks Christian beliefs in a way that I thought was so 20th century in tone & content that I assume the author or screenwriter was just inserting his opinion on Christianity rather than being based on any recorded words from an early settler.

    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made - mind you, not a lot of competition in that category.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    , @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    Following from the previous thread:

    the massive bandstand at Mezhapark


    The bandstand has been completely redesigned and rebuilt now by Latvians (as have been many buildings, old and new). And looks much much better.
     
    LMAO. In Soviet architectural concepts of form, function and interaction in public spaces the whole idea of Mezhapark and the whole existence and rebuild of Mezhapark is TYPICALLY Soviet, classical Soviet you laughably stupid idiot!!!

    You have Baltic scum removing all great Russian/Soviet heritage that made these countries- the rebuilt Mezhapark is the complete opposite. Its like they got rid of a beautiful Red Army statue....and replaced it with a gold hammer and sickle monument !

    You do realise Peter the Great did not walk into Riga and see 20000 Latvians singing in a choir you dickhead? This particular type of contruction ( original or rebuilt) designed for this particular mass participation event is SPECIFICALLY soviet, typical Soviet nationalist you pathetic wakjob. How embarassing.

    I did write before:

    and the ethos of it ( travelling in Europe I haven’t seen a bandstand close to the size or style).
     
    That should have been enough to indicate to a dumb cretin like you that Mezhapark was a Soviet architecture of a typically soviet project.......and is now a soviet tribute structure in its redesign which was needed after 60 years. As I said there is no bandstands like this outside the USSR, certainly not in US or Europe.

    Difficult to know which set of scum are more schizophrenic - Ukronazis or Latvian earthworms.

    Replies: @LatW

  630. @songbird
    @LatW

    It's not really something that would be documented in depth. Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros. Indians perceived their advanced technology and were influenced by their taboos, religion, and even diet, so there was only a small window of observation.


    Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned.
     
    Last of the Mohicans? The Algonquins (Mohicans) were good guys in that. The villains were Iroquois.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW

    And, btw, even though I like the Injuns a lot, I’m quite red pilled about them. For example, in some tribes they were super strict about abortion. And there is violence against women on the rez sometimes. I’m totally aware of this (they’re not all angels).

  631. Nobody has said anything in this forum, there is a change of government in Poland. PiS lost and replaced by PO coalition with Tusk.

    In terms of the economic policy, PiS were relatively socialist/re-distributive. So, the government will be re-directing economically right-wing/neoliberal.

    In terms of the external policy, PiS were doing an anti-Ukraine rhetoric campaign for the few last months, while Tusk is famous for pro-Ukraine views.

    Anti-Ukraine rhetoric campaign of the last months of PiS was probably related to the overall populist views though and they connected to economic protectionism policy. So, the public in Poland returned to relatively to consuming of anti-Ukraine rhetoric in the second half this year, which is the more default view in Poland where the anti-Ukraine views are populist views during peacetime. Ban on Ukrainian grain import in Poland is probably popular politically and would cost votes to the new government to remove.


    Zelensky was very angry about the Poland-Ukraine grain import ban. It seems like he says he thinks the new government in Poland would unblock the grain from Ukraine to Poland.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @Dmitry

    All completely useless and irrelevant stuff.

    The so-called "anti-immigration" right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries. So-called "anti-ukrainian" rhetoric is irrelevant - these 2 sets of animals (Poles and Banderetards) have proven themselves completely incompatible living with each other for centuries - but even then we still have the situation that we have now.

    The european populations have proven themselves useless/total bydlo in these gayropa states at having objections 5-10%+ of their government health, education, social expenditure directed immediately to a group of immigrants - as they have in a situation where their countries have increased overnight by 1%,2%,3% even 5% population with most of these people being economically incapable (children and pensioners) from 404.

    Every country has pissed off farmers , ultimately there is always subsidies they can give, things they can pretend to do, international conditions they can blame. Though they make the loudest noise, most of them are wealthy anyway and are an easily expendable part of the electorate.

    Most gayropa states have had changes of governments in the last few years ( exception France) and a combination of conditions involving both the coronavirus and Russia indirectly I would guess has critical role in this - none of it changes the foreign policy

    Replies: @A123, @Yevardian

  632. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I don’t think Hodges and NATO are able to recognize that Russia has been fighting a kid gloves war to limit civilian death and destruction.

    Would you describe nightly shahed drone attacks against Ukrainian cities as trying to limit civilian death and destruction?

    Why is Putin attacking the capital with drones when the front is hundreds of miles away?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25573

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

    The Russia s could incinerate Kiev

  633. @LatW
    @songbird


    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents
     
    Well, most of these accounts are really based on just that one Jesuit book (plus the diaries you mention). These are witness accounts, but who knows how accurate they are (probably not entirely inaccurate). Some of those torture scenes were also shown in that movie I mentioned. So I was well aware that the Indians could be cruel, just like other peoples. These sound like stressed out tribes at war with each other. Although the Iroquois had a confederacy.

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    So I was well aware that the Indians could be cruel, just like other peoples.

    The Comanches were singularly accomplished. This book will give you willies:

    • Thanks: LatW
    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Correctly called savages.

  634. @Wokechoke
    @S

    The battle with Hansen is a classic skirmish plan. Use the objective of the campaign Killing the Captain to lure in and defeat the enemy.


    Why didn’t The Captain just settle in the pretty little valley with his Erika, like the Professor from Heidelberg told him to?

    Replies: @S

    Why didn’t The Captain just settle in the pretty little valley with his Erika, like the Professor from Heidelberg told him to?

    That’s a good question.

    Some people just don’t know a good thing when they’ve got it and have to do everything the hard way.

  635. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    So I was well aware that the Indians could be cruel, just like other peoples.

    The Comanches were singularly accomplished. This book will give you willies:

    https://www.amazon.com/Comanches-History-People-T-R-Fehrenbach/dp/1400030498

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Correctly called savages.

  636. @AP
    @QCIC


    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone.
     
    So Ukraine encouraged the evacuation of civilians while Hamas did not.

    Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.
     
    Russia attacks a country's cities which have soldiers and military infrastructure in them, thereby killing civilians in those cities.

    Gaza is different.
     
    Of course it is.

    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza, triggering the Israeli response. Ukraine did not leave Ukraine's borders prior to being attacked.

    Ukraine encourages evacuation from front-line war zones.

    Hamas prevented evacuation from the war zone.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @LondonBob, @AnonfromTN

    Israel invaded Palestine, with ethnic cleansing on their mind.

    Ukraine invaded Donbass, with ethnic cleansing on their mind.

    • Agree: AnonfromTN
    • Replies: @A123
    @LondonBob

    The correct analogies are Ukie/Pali -- Russia/Israel:

    Ukie/Pali engage in senseless aggression with the goal of ethnic cleansing. This is quite explicit in Hamas "From the River to the Sea" genocide dogma.

    Russia/Israel are trying to limit civilian casualties, but mistakes happen during combat. Also, the IDF has a complex problem as terrorists embedded themselves in hospitals, religious sites, and other civilian buildings. Hamas believes that all Muslims are human shields.

    Ukie/Pali has no strategy that could possibly lead to military victory. The highly vaunted Kiev counter offensive failed. Hamas started the current fight in Gaza by killing less than 2,000 Palestinian Jews.

    Ukie/Pali aggression is propped up by external funding. The toxic involvement of Iran, UN/NWO, and Qatar are visible in Gaza. Kiev is receiving less, but sadly a considerable amount of EU spending is likely to continue.
    ____

    The biggest differences are geography & history.

    Ukraine is physically huge. What happens when Kiev is limited by fund cuts? While the zealots here are adamantly against it, most people can see new borders with a wide DMZ. Ukraine is a nation and can function as a smaller state, especially if it can keep Odessa.

    The 23% of the Palestinian Mandate is physically small. And, there never was an independent Muslim nation exclusively in the 23% west of the Jordan River. The two state solution was rejected by Arafat and buried by Abbas. The genocidal one state solution is obviously an immoral & impractical concept. It is hard to envision any viable solution that does not include land outside the current, unworkable, and very artificial 23% border.

    PEACE 😇

     
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i0S74GkjPuw/U8d5mEcbiiI/AAAAAAAAAec/0PeFvChmLb8/s1600/1922-mandate_for_palestine.jpg

  637. @LatW
    @songbird


    Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros.
     
    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes. Which I find really cool. And they differ by looks and temperament.

    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I'd have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it "biased" today after what I've learned. Love those wild nature scenes.

    Replies: @songbird, @Matra, @Gerard1234

    The movie was called Black Robe.

    Haven’t seen it.

    [MORE]

    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes.

    Have heard that the last Europeans to have tribes were the Montenegrins. I’ve been curious if a more detailed description of them might exist than in other places.

    For example, in some tribes they were super strict about abortion.

    well, their numbers are declining, and traditionally, they didn’t care much about legitimacy, other than the man potentially being cucked. Plus they don’t have a lot and need a spiritual glue to unite them.

    I must be honest with you, LatW.

    Putting all the hardnosed mathematical considerations aside, in the past, I have often been very offput by teenage girls volunteering how they have essentially adopted the most anti-Euro political affiliation, seemingly based on a single issue: the desire to choose their sexual partner lightly, not use birth control, and then – and here is where I think of Indians, though a little unfairly – give birth and bash the babies head against a tree-trunk, just as an Indian warrior might to to an enemy’s child.

    Perhaps, that is an unfair characterization and they are thinking of something else like rape. But IMO it is not a pleasing attitude in a potential mate.

    And there is violence against women on the rez sometimes.

    I wonder how much of it is alcohol.

    I was thinking recently about Roman attitudes toward beer (quite negative), and wondering if a lot of it was about alcohol tolerance clines, and they didn’t realize it.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Haven’t seen it.
     
    Actually, I would highly recommend (the movie is available in full on YT), you would like it because it is red pill. And it has a Montagnais medicine man character who is a midget - I've noticed that you have mentioned midgets a lot in your posts about movie characters, so you'd find this interesting. It's a feisty character and a very unflattering portrayal of Indian religion and social life. So should be to your liking. :)

    As to the abortion part, I wasn't defending the abortionists, but my point was more that the Indians used to be self-preserving and punished the women for it, they were not some egalitarian worshippers of Mother Earth. And women sometimes gave birth alone while walking in the mountains. I find that remarkable and admirable (although that was probably rare even for the Indians). As to young women and babies, most women's instinct is to keep the child, and often there is a grandmother nearby who will help.

  638. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    listening pleasure, but not the accompanying CD cases. That’s why the whole idea that I’ve presented is so appealing to me. But perhaps I should totally remove listening to music
     
    Well it's an interesting topic.

    You said you need 10,000 CDs. If you listen to a different album every day with no repeats or vacations it is 27,4 years before you can listen to such high numbers of CDs. More practical would be to listen to a new album every week with no repeats or vacations, then 10,000 CDs is 192 years of music listening.

    In the past times in the 20th century, average music fans in 1960s America would probably listen to a new album every month? New albums were expensive in the 1960s relative to working class income.

    So, 10,000 albums would be 833 years at those kind of rates of consumption for many of the 1960s music fans.

    -

    Streaming is like converting your food cupboard to a supermarket. But the number of units of music you can consume like your stomach size is still fixed and not larger today than in the 1960s.

    Ironically it's possible people are less music fans today than in the 1960s when they would listen to only around 12 new albums each year.

    Another paradox. In the 1960s, there was more transfer of money to musicians, it was a more normal profession and society was more fanatic about music. While the music fans only had a limited cupboard. While in the 2020s, music fans have a supermarket, while they are becoming less music fans at the same time and society is investing less resources to music industries.


    should be sufficient to let you know that the receiver was vintage mid 1980’s that included an amplifier and radio. It also included a nice cassette tape player within the design too.

     

    What is the name/model of the 1980s amplifier? Looking at the speakers I guess it actually a complete system which you bought combined?

    that we went over the component specifics 1.5 years ago, when we last discussed this topic? I even remember providing you with some photos of my exact

     

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-191-russia-ukraine/#comment-5421435

    I don't specific about the speakers "Technics SB-2460". But there is information about the series "Technics SB-2***"

    Those old speakers are claiming sensitivity >90dB 2.83V/1m If you know the distance you listen from the speakers and the dynamic range of your typical music files there are simple formulas to see your amplifier is adequate to not clip.

    -


    There is a video about a different model in the series by a very nonengineering person.

    The crossover diagram for the woofer doesn't have an inductor to do the highpass filter, so it has to . It probably saved money in the 1980s in terms of reducing the number of inductors needed to manufacturer the speaker.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQfLbnIu62k

    His "upgrade" with the Tweeter from Aliexpress and incorrectly valued pre-made crossover made probably those speakers impossible to listen on with the spike at 6k.


    the opportunity to make really decent tapes of CD’s being played.
     
    I would like to get a cassette tape deck. Do you also have a cassette tape collection?

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Well it’s an interesting topic.

    You said you need 10,000 CDs.

    Obviously, the 10,000 figure was just a metaphor for a whole library of many CD’s, not to be taken literally, as you’ve proven with your math work. Let’s say that I want to listen to some Debussy music, perhaps something brand new or even something familiar for that matter. I can go to Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD’s including his music that I don’t need to go out and buy. Quite a deal. I have a personal library of about 600 books, which is more than enough (I haven’t even read them all yet), but it’s nice to know that there are libraries, book stores, and even online libraries where I can access other books if the need arises (and it does occasionally).

    Anyway, I’m busy getting ready to go to work and will get back to you on some of your other questions later. I agree with you “it’s interesting topic”.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack

    You can use Spotify free, just with commercials. So you can test it and connect it to your Technics hi fi.

    But looking at the wider view, the introduction of streaming is at the same time as reduction of interest in music and probably will not reverse the trend of the current society.

    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don't exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.

    While in 1960s America, working class people might only buy 12 albums each year, the society were more music connoisseurs on average and the music industries were more musically productive than today.

    What are possible reasons?

    Maybe one reason is because the problem of today is not the quantity of music, but quality of our attention. While streaming is increasing quantity of music in our "cupboard", it's possible the streaming format is also reducing quality of attention.


    Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD’s including his music that I don’t need to go out and buy.

     

    One of the reverse trends against streaming is the return to vinyl, which requires not only difficulty buying in terms of cost, also in terms of difficulty to even find a place where it's possible to buy the music you had wanted to buy.

    If you compare with streaming, even those large collectors of vinyl are very limited access in terms of quantity of music. They don't have "access hundreds" of albums instantly, but would maybe require weeks or months to find the music they want.

    But if we assume the problem is not quantity of music, but quality of attention. Then, the return to vinyl is making sense. Afterall it forces higher attention, as you cannot change albums easily and also their higher costs to buy mean you often have to re-listen.
    -


    You also couldn't easily speak like some of these vinyl fans on YouTube about streaming albums. Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFVUO04e1s

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

  639. @songbird
    @Mr. Hack

    I tried to find instances of cats befriending zoo animals, but all I could find is this story of a cat and lynx in St. Petersburg.
    https://defused.com/cat-befriends-lynx-cat/


    Spotting a squirrel (any color) is a rare sight in Phoenix Land.
     
    Chipmunks (ground squirrel, though they also climb) can be super-aggressive if you leave food unguarded for only a minute or two. If they shriek within 2-3 feet of your ear, it is like a locamotive blowing a whistle or a sonic weapon. The pitch is really penetrating at short distances.

    Grays are so unperturbed by people that they will commonly evacuate their bowels on people sitting under trees, which being a lover of shade I find unpardonable.

    Audie Murphy supposedly fed his family on squirrels when he was a boy. I looked up the state law one day in my woke state. IIRC, in season, you can bag 10 a day. I get the idea that such animals are more protected in Japan.

    One time I was driving on a fairly new highway, and I was amazed at the number of dead grays on it. I had never seen anything like it.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    One of the earliest memories that I have, is of my father going out on our driveway with some nuts, and interacting with a grey squirrel. Somehow, he would attract the squirrel and get him to jump onto his pants and then he’d climb up his side all the way up to his shoulders and then get rewarded with some nuts. Afterwards, he would complete the trip by going to the other side (going behind his neck) and traveling down his other side and leg and then make his exit This was a show that my father would put on for my benefit, that I still remember to this day. Of course, it didn’t hurt any that my father was of course of the same line of Ukrainian shamans as I. Otherwise, “Something unusual went on there, certainly.” 🙂

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    FTW

    We always knew you were squirrelly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  640. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @LatW

    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that. They ain't popular due to their amazing conversation skills.

    Replies: @LatW, @songbird

    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that.

    Asian girls have some good qualities, but my preference is for really pale skin.

    Other than the fact that I have never been very attracted to very tanned girls, it was quite a while before I even was able to realize it, by considering commonalities in the girls that I thought were the most attractive.

    It is a pretty un-PC beauty standard in the West nowadays, so you don’t hear people wax poetic about it anymore, like you might still to a limited extent with hair and eye color.

    I’ve often wondered about the origin of it. Whether it is family imprinting or the genes themselves. And if it would be more common tendency in Ireland than among the Germanics who seem almost equally pale to start, but can brown very deeply.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @songbird

    My point was not to look at the color of the skin with your eyesight. I believe the relevant variable is pore size which you can't even see without magnification. What might speed things up is take a big magnifying glass on your first date and ask them if you can take a close look at their skin pores.

    Anybody ever tried this?

  641. SpaceX is on target for 97 launches this year. iIRC, next year’s goal is 144.

    And their major competitors, foreign and domestic, don’t really have their hardware online yet, so it is difficult to assess their impact.

    I wonder if there is any truth to this theory that these mega-constellations of satellites will interfere with the ionosphere and move the Van Allen Radiation Belts closer to Earth.

    That seems potentially higher impact than Kessler.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Why haven't the giant ground based oscilloscopes put a stop to these satellite constellations? Do they have the ability to remove the satellite images without degrading the astronomical images?

    Replies: @songbird

  642. @LondonBob
    @AP

    Israel invaded Palestine, with ethnic cleansing on their mind.

    Ukraine invaded Donbass, with ethnic cleansing on their mind.

    Replies: @A123

    The correct analogies are Ukie/Pali — Russia/Israel:

    Ukie/Pali engage in senseless aggression with the goal of ethnic cleansing. This is quite explicit in Hamas “From the River to the Sea” genocide dogma.

    Russia/Israel are trying to limit civilian casualties, but mistakes happen during combat. Also, the IDF has a complex problem as terrorists embedded themselves in hospitals, religious sites, and other civilian buildings. Hamas believes that all Muslims are human shields.

    Ukie/Pali has no strategy that could possibly lead to military victory. The highly vaunted Kiev counter offensive failed. Hamas started the current fight in Gaza by killing less than 2,000 Palestinian Jews.

    Ukie/Pali aggression is propped up by external funding. The toxic involvement of Iran, UN/NWO, and Qatar are visible in Gaza. Kiev is receiving less, but sadly a considerable amount of EU spending is likely to continue.
    ____

    The biggest differences are geography & history.

    Ukraine is physically huge. What happens when Kiev is limited by fund cuts? While the zealots here are adamantly against it, most people can see new borders with a wide DMZ. Ukraine is a nation and can function as a smaller state, especially if it can keep Odessa.

    The 23% of the Palestinian Mandate is physically small. And, there never was an independent Muslim nation exclusively in the 23% west of the Jordan River. The two state solution was rejected by Arafat and buried by Abbas. The genocidal one state solution is obviously an immoral & impractical concept. It is hard to envision any viable solution that does not include land outside the current, unworkable, and very artificial 23% border.

    PEACE 😇

     

  643. @Dmitry
    Nobody has said anything in this forum, there is a change of government in Poland. PiS lost and replaced by PO coalition with Tusk.

    In terms of the economic policy, PiS were relatively socialist/re-distributive. So, the government will be re-directing economically right-wing/neoliberal.

    In terms of the external policy, PiS were doing an anti-Ukraine rhetoric campaign for the few last months, while Tusk is famous for pro-Ukraine views.

    Anti-Ukraine rhetoric campaign of the last months of PiS was probably related to the overall populist views though and they connected to economic protectionism policy. So, the public in Poland returned to relatively to consuming of anti-Ukraine rhetoric in the second half this year, which is the more default view in Poland where the anti-Ukraine views are populist views during peacetime. Ban on Ukrainian grain import in Poland is probably popular politically and would cost votes to the new government to remove.

    -
    Zelensky was very angry about the Poland-Ukraine grain import ban. It seems like he says he thinks the new government in Poland would unblock the grain from Ukraine to Poland.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzOwyYDd11g

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    All completely useless and irrelevant stuff.

    The so-called “anti-immigration” right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries. So-called “anti-ukrainian” rhetoric is irrelevant – these 2 sets of animals (Poles and Banderetards) have proven themselves completely incompatible living with each other for centuries – but even then we still have the situation that we have now.

    The european populations have proven themselves useless/total bydlo in these gayropa states at having objections 5-10%+ of their government health, education, social expenditure directed immediately to a group of immigrants – as they have in a situation where their countries have increased overnight by 1%,2%,3% even 5% population with most of these people being economically incapable (children and pensioners) from 404.

    Every country has pissed off farmers , ultimately there is always subsidies they can give, things they can pretend to do, international conditions they can blame. Though they make the loudest noise, most of them are wealthy anyway and are an easily expendable part of the electorate.

    Most gayropa states have had changes of governments in the last few years ( exception France) and a combination of conditions involving both the coronavirus and Russia indirectly I would guess has critical role in this – none of it changes the foreign policy

    • Replies: @A123
    @Gerard1234


    The so-called “anti-immigration” right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries
     
    There are potential gains from Christian migration.

    • Some Ukrainian women are feminine & attract Polish men into Christian marriage. This is good for family formation and TFR.
    • Weak minded, native Leftoids who insist on woke extremism instead of marriage lose the chance to reproduce. This also improves the gene pool.

    After the fighting ends, many Ukrainians will leave. There is a large collection of men that do not want to be conscripted into Zelensky's certain failure. Most will eagerly go home once Kiev becomes rational again.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @Yevardian
    @Gerard1234


    The so-called “anti-immigration” right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries.
     
    Yes, it's a great shame. For every Ukrainian, Europe missed the chance getting a future Doctor Mugabe.
  644. @songbird
    @LatW


    But don’t recall cannibalism.
     
    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:
    https://historyweblog.com/2017/06/tortures-of-the-algonquin-prisoners/

    some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.
     
    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the '50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.

    Meanwhile Canada is super-woke on Indians, both feather and dot. They just sang O Canada! in Punjabi at an NHL game. Sher Singh might not have even known the words.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @S

    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.

    Perhaps, the Lone Ranger show offered a bit of balance to the typical Hollywood depiction of American Indians as being only a cutthroat and savage race, picking on the innocent noble white race? I grew up watching this show and enjoyed the comradery and friendship displayed between the Lone Ranger and Tonto.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Mr. Hack


    Perhaps, the Lone Ranger show offered a bit of balance to the typical Hollywood depiction of American Indians as being only a cutthroat and savage race, picking on the innocent noble white race?
     
    Euro villains or other shady characters have generally long been a part of Westerns or other movies with Indians. In no period were they ennobled to the same extent.

    IIRC, Stagecoach (1939) had a hooker and an embezzler. Drums Along the Mohawk (same year) a Loyalist giving the Indians arms and stirring them up.

    I am not entirely unsympathetic to the idea that Indians are a very defeated people and it is bad manners to kick them when they are down.

    Problem is that foundational American mythology is built on the conquest, and if that is made to seem evil, then you are undermining the foundational basis of America and even harming Europe by association. And there is no easy replacement for the founding myth, except the extreme universalism that has been purveyed, which really is just anti-Euro in nature, when you remove its veneer.

    One can be open-handed, without being suicidal.

    Victimhood doesn't result in positive role models, if that is the goal.

    Personally, I would have much preferred to see Indians given some of the attention that blacks have been given. That is being in buddy cop movies and the like, where they could have been idealized masculine role models, and models for their people. Though, IMo, they seem to have been quite neglected in favor of blacks.

    I grew up watching this show and enjoyed the comradery and friendship displayed between the Lone Ranger and Tonto.

     

    Tonto is considered quite a taboo character by the Woke these days for being ESL.

    Presumably, they might prefer the Oxford-educated half-breed Mingo from Daniel Boone, who spoke a more cultivated lingo.
  645. @LatW
    @songbird


    Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros.
     
    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes. Which I find really cool. And they differ by looks and temperament.

    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I'd have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it "biased" today after what I've learned. Love those wild nature scenes.

    Replies: @songbird, @Matra, @Gerard1234

    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I’d have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it “biased” today after what I’ve learned. Love those wild nature scenes

    In my first year at university I had to write a book review on The Jesuit Letters and Allied Documents which I assume was the source material for the novel Black Robe, written by Brian Moore, himself a non-believing Catholic from Northern Ireland. I rented the movie right after handing in my review aware that the movie was criticised for its “savage” portrayal of what Canadians now call First Nations. My conclusion after reading so many in-depth Jesuit letters about their New France experiences was that the filmmaker had actually gone easy on the Indians. There was also one fairly condescending scene in which a French settler, who rejects the faith and goes off with an Indian woman, mocks Christian beliefs in a way that I thought was so 20th century in tone & content that I assume the author or screenwriter was just inserting his opinion on Christianity rather than being based on any recorded words from an early settler.

    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made – mind you, not a lot of competition in that category.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Matra


    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made
     
    I rewatched it, enjoyed it once again, and, yes, it is quite un-PC (using the 90s term), in many ways, a rather unflattering portrayal of the Natives. I'm also biased with this movie (because I oppose Christianization of indigenous peoples) but the movie was convincing enough that I felt sympathy for the Jesuit priest. The lead character is not super spectacular, but interesting, and I especially liked how the character was almost cast out from the rest of the group and the representation of his utter physical and spiritual loneliness and separateness on the background of these wild, menacing landscapes, which highlighted the seeming futility of his mission and maybe even the fragility of human life.

    So they get captured by Iroquois, not Algonquin - they are led by a group of Algonquin converts.

    And I liked the original masculinity that was shown in the brief scene with the small Motagnais group, it was meant to be in a negative light, but I personally found attractive (to see Indians that are not emasculated).


    in-depth Jesuit letters about their New France experiences was that the filmmaker had actually gone easy on the Indians.
     
    Maybe they did not present the physical barbarity as much, but they presented the Natives as very primitive spiritually and intellectually, as well as needlessly spiteful. I doubt they were that dumb or unaware (regardless the watch thing). Understand that they were under immense stress due to illness and tribal warfare. This is the one demographic where I will take the exception and not side with the Euros. That doesn't mean one can't admit the shortcomings of either side. The context here is also not so much Euro against Native, but different groups of Natives against each other, and different Euros against each other on a new continent (a rather brutal continent).

    The young squaw was portrayed in a good light.


    There was also one fairly condescending scene in which a French settler, who rejects the faith and goes off with an Indian woman, mocks Christian beliefs in a way that I thought was so 20th century in tone

     

    I actually liked that character because, he was able to both retain some of his European roots, but also accepted the wilderness and I also really liked his acceptance of human nature (he accepted his sexuality - in this wilderness, it helped him to survive to have a relationship). As to that conversation, I actually liked it too, it showed some tension between these different religions, world views. It showed that how well the native religion fits with such a wild landscape. Also, it showed the trial of the priest - among all the other trials he had to go through, even if the priest is a "bigoted Christian" - these kinds of scenes, where he was abandoned, both physically and his religion, shows his immense trial, his persistence.

    Him walking in a black robe the whole movie is a great visual element as well, especially in the background of the northern landscapes. It separates him from the landscape, accentuating his loneliness and abandonment, but also sets him apart as a willful actor attempting to overcome dominating and powerful Nature. The reappearing image of the She-Manitou is the symbol of the power of Nature and the old spirit of this land. But almost reminiscent of Mother Mary at times as her apparition lingers close to those who are going through a great ordeal or who are seeing visions or passing from this world. So it's a good juxtaposition of the two competing world views that still have the same female symbol at their core.

    I would say this movie is still non-woke, partly because it is French-Canadian (they probably were not as brainwashed yet) and also because it is quite old, made in 1991, before the real social liberalism took hold in North America. I think the mid to late 90s was in fact when it hit with full force and they must have skipped that or avoided just in time, since they made it right before the PC craze started for real.

    Definitely one of the movies that I've seen in my life that still sticks in my mind.

    Replies: @Matra

    , @John Johnson
    @Matra

    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made – mind you, not a lot of competition in that category.

    But is it better than Strange Brew?

  646. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    One of the earliest memories that I have, is of my father going out on our driveway with some nuts, and interacting with a grey squirrel. Somehow, he would attract the squirrel and get him to jump onto his pants and then he'd climb up his side all the way up to his shoulders and then get rewarded with some nuts. Afterwards, he would complete the trip by going to the other side (going behind his neck) and traveling down his other side and leg and then make his exit This was a show that my father would put on for my benefit, that I still remember to this day. Of course, it didn't hurt any that my father was of course of the same line of Ukrainian shamans as I. Otherwise, "Something unusual went on there, certainly." :-)

    Replies: @QCIC

    FTW

    We always knew you were squirrelly…

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    I'm not the only one:

    WATCH THIS:

    https://youtu.be/ShimQdfhZA0

    Replies: @QCIC

  647. @songbird
    SpaceX is on target for 97 launches this year. iIRC, next year's goal is 144.

    And their major competitors, foreign and domestic, don't really have their hardware online yet, so it is difficult to assess their impact.

    I wonder if there is any truth to this theory that these mega-constellations of satellites will interfere with the ionosphere and move the Van Allen Radiation Belts closer to Earth.

    That seems potentially higher impact than Kessler.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Why haven’t the giant ground based oscilloscopes put a stop to these satellite constellations? Do they have the ability to remove the satellite images without degrading the astronomical images?

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    Part of the problem is that they add ambient or diffuse light to the sky, in addition to being bright spots. Another is that some types of long exposure observations might not be able to sustain the data loss.

    BTW, I didn't realize some of these things are actually above Hubble.

    Replies: @QCIC

  648. @LatW
    @songbird


    Indians were hugely and rapidly influenced by contact with Euros.
     
    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes. Which I find really cool. And they differ by looks and temperament.

    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I'd have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it "biased" today after what I've learned. Love those wild nature scenes.

    Replies: @songbird, @Matra, @Gerard1234

    Following from the previous thread:

    the massive bandstand at Mezhapark

    The bandstand has been completely redesigned and rebuilt now by Latvians (as have been many buildings, old and new). And looks much much better.

    LMAO. In Soviet architectural concepts of form, function and interaction in public spaces the whole idea of Mezhapark and the whole existence and rebuild of Mezhapark is TYPICALLY Soviet, classical Soviet you laughably stupid idiot!!!

    You have Baltic scum removing all great Russian/Soviet heritage that made these countries- the rebuilt Mezhapark is the complete opposite. Its like they got rid of a beautiful Red Army statue….and replaced it with a gold hammer and sickle monument !

    You do realise Peter the Great did not walk into Riga and see 20000 Latvians singing in a choir you dickhead? This particular type of contruction ( original or rebuilt) designed for this particular mass participation event is SPECIFICALLY soviet, typical Soviet nationalist you pathetic wakjob. How embarassing.

    I did write before:

    and the ethos of it ( travelling in Europe I haven’t seen a bandstand close to the size or style).

    That should have been enough to indicate to a dumb cretin like you that Mezhapark was a Soviet architecture of a typically soviet project…….and is now a soviet tribute structure in its redesign which was needed after 60 years. As I said there is no bandstands like this outside the USSR, certainly not in US or Europe.

    Difficult to know which set of scum are more schizophrenic – Ukronazis or Latvian earthworms.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Gerard1234


    Mezhapark
     
    Mežaparks is a significant historic neighborhood with a rich architectural heritage that was already there before your filthy Soviet scum arrived. Near a lake that is folkloric in Latvian culture. Wooden architecture, mansions, etc. And still remains to this day an upscale neighborhood with many new rich private properties built by the current generations.

    That the bandstand was originally built is good (why, you expect to not build anything, just occupy? it has nothing to do with today's RusFedians). And was completely remodeled recently.

    Return the fighter bombers to the Ukrainians that they themselves built but you took. You want to be petty? I can be petty all you like. And then some.


    all great Russian/Soviet heritage that made these countries
     
    The occupier symbols and statues should've been removed a long time ago - in fact, should not have been allowed to be built there in the first place. You do realize that even the boomer generation themselves moved on from this crap decades ago - not to mention the Gen X and our YOUNG who have nothing to do with this. And never will.

    You do realise Peter the Great did not walk into Riga and see 20000 Latvians singing
     
    Peter walked into that whole region, with violence as always, that was built up by Germans and Swedes (with the help of locals), with a law abiding and diligent Western Christian population - all of which he had absolutely nothing to do with. Everything had been rebuilt after the monster named Ivan Grozny had razed half of the population of those lands (literally) and bombed the castles and fortresses.

    You're an old, uprooted (wow, old and uprooted in one, that's messed up), Sovok boomer who drinks regularly with no manners. And you support the murder and maiming of young Ukrainian girls. This is how you are perceived along with 70% of the other bydlo in Russia who support this savagery. Why do you expect me to address you respectfully or kindly when you are unable to be that way yourself? You are sitting in the dust bin of history yet you don't realize it yourself.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  649. @AP
    @Beckow


    The people who showed in the referendums were the self-selected pro-Russian voters…same as the blacks in Detroit. Or the votes for Yushenko-Porky in parts of Galicia and Yanuk in Donbas (both were over 90%).
     
    Here's a glimpse into Beckow's lying mind.

    Truth or facts don't matter to him at all. It's just appearance. Try to fake something with appearances and it becomes "true."

    90% voted a certain way in Kosovo because the population there is 90% Albanian. 90% Of Galicians are nationalistic so 90% or so of them vote for nationalists. Yanukovich may have padded his numbers a little but his party was very popular in Donbas so 90% is more or less accurate.

    87% vote for annexation to Russia in Kherson is not in the same ballpark at all.

    But it's about 90%, and those other results were also 90%. It's all the same because 90%.

    If 75% of people left Kherson when Russia captured it – as Kiev claims – the 25% left there were the pro-Russians.

     

    Not all or even most. There were older people, people too stubborn to move, etc.

    Moreover, Russia claimed that 571,000 people took part in the referendum; it claimed a turnout of 77%, of whom 87% voted for union with Russia.

    The prewar population of Kherson was slightly over 1 million people.

    Here are the results by oblast in the first round of the 2019 presidential election for the pro-Russian candidate. Note that this does not equal support for pro-Russian separatism. The party's platform was Russian as a second language, peace and economic ties with Russia, but not annexation by Russia. Several of this party's leaders have been fighting the Russian invaders. But some have also become collaborators. I suspect that somewhere between 1/4 to 1/2 of this party's voters could be supporters of annexation by Russia. Probably closer to 1/4.

    This is how many people voted for this party's candidate, Boyko, in the first round of the 2019 presidential election:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png/800px-%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_2019_%28%D0%86%29.png

    16% in Kherson, 19% in Zaporizhia.

    So even if every one of the voters supporting annexation by Russia stayed behind, they would not be 87% of the voters left behind.

    Replies: @Beckow

    Thou protest too much.…people in Galicia are Banderites-nationalists, people in Donbas and those left in the Russian-controlled parts of Zaporozhie are pro-Russian. There is no reason to think they would not vote that way – the 2019 election was under heavy nationalist control, in 2022 under pro-Russian control: people go with the flow. Lots of people who voted for Zelko in 2019 were pro-Russians hoping he was a genuine pro-peace candidate who also had a chance to win (Boyko didn’t).

    Your desperate ruminations show your poorly developed thinking skills and the deep desperation you have fallen into: Kiev is losing, your “paused offensive” was a bloody failure, Ukies are now trying to draft men (and women) who left the country. The money is only trickling in, the West is losing interest. You autistically focus on unprovable “fraud” in the 2021 election that you or Kiev would never recognize and that makes no difference to the war outcome. This will be decided by force – the details will be filled in afterwards. The identical way Nato operates. Why are you surprised?

    Keep on counting the elderly this-and-that and yelling that Kosovo was “nothing like what’s going on in Ukraine” – but it is almost identical, you just look stupid. The chickens are coming home to roost and there is really nothing anyone can do about it. What the f..k were your esteemed leaders thinking when starting the brutal wars to separate Kosovo from Serbia, and then in Iraq, Syria…? And the brilliant idea of Ukraine in Nato and Russians kicked out of Crimea – who are the neo-con idiots that you defend so much? Do you also like their war on Gaza?

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    What are the greater odds - the Kiev regime taking back Crimea and/or other former Ukrainian SSR land it presently doesn't control, or a rump Ukraine consisting only of former Habsurg ruled territory?

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    people in Galicia are Banderites-nationalists, people in Donbas and
     
    Yes.

    those left in the Russian-controlled parts of Zaporozhie are pro-Russian
     
    No.

    There weren’t enough of them in 2019 to be a majority now.

    There is no reason to think they would not vote that way – the 2019 election was under heavy nationalist control

     

    And yet the pro-Russian party won in Kiev-controlled Donbas, but got only 16% of the vote in Kherson.

    Lots of people who voted for Zelko in 2019 were pro-Russians hoping he was a genuine pro-peace candidate who also had a chance to win
     
    Nonsense.

    This was true in the 2nd round when it was Poroshenko vs. Zelensky but not in the first round.

    Zelensky was explicitly pro-NATO and anti-Russia. He just wanted a softer approach than Poroshenko. Boyko wanted treaties with Russia, opposed NATO, wanted language status, etc.

    In the first round the pro-Russians did not vote for pro-NATO Zelensky but for their own candidate, Boyko. He got only 16% in Kherson.

    And of course a vote for Boyko didn’t indicate support for Russian annexation. Only some if his electorate would go that far. Many of his voters are fighting against Russia.

    Your desperate ruminations
     
    Lying is the result of desperation. You do that, not me.

    Kiev is losing, your “paused offensive” was a bloody failure, Ukies are now trying to draft men (and women) who left the country. The money is only trickling in, the West is losing interest
     
    And yet Russia hasn’t beeen able to take more than a few km, at terrible cost to itself.

    You autistically focus on unprovable “fraud” in the 2021 election
     
    When you are caught lying you cry “autism” as usual.

    In 2019, only 16% voted for a pro-Russian candidate who platform was far less extreme than Russia annexation. In 2022 Russia claimed over 70% turnout with 87% supporting Russian annexation.

    Replies: @Beckow

  650. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    FTW

    We always knew you were squirrelly...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I’m not the only one:

    WATCH THIS:

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Wow, they are good friends.

    My squirrel faves are:

    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.

    Little red squirrels since they are mega-hyperactive and have a lot of personality.

    Honorable mention for chipmunks because they are cute and friendly, industrious and have racing stripes.

    I agree with the notion that the standard grey ones are sort of rats with fluffy tails. The black ones are devil squirrels.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Mikhail

  651. @songbird
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Why don’t you give a reference for this outrageous claim.
     
    Hyberbole and poetic license on my part based on the Era of Exclusion.

    But for example, they did generally fire on all foreign vessels, outside of Nagasaki. They fired on the Morrison, which was carrying 7 ship-wrecked Japanese at two separate ports, and it was hit by a cannnonball and gave up on trying to return them.

    And one could go to a later period and adduce the Kanto massacre.

    They would have been better off in Japan.
     
    Probably Japan would not have been motivated by the economic ideology of Adam Smith during the Famine. But, OTOH, they might not have had the industrial capacity to buy the necessary food or the shipping power, supposing the country was in adjacent waters with the climate conserved. (Though this itself would have introduced differences such as making the Western coast more navigable.)

    If we brought them together earlier, I would be surprised if the feudal system didn't result in a similar policy of settlement. (And potentially worse, due to more obvious racial differences.)

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Why do you hide your comments like you are doing something dishonest?

    The incident you mentioned was 1837

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrison_incident

    The first Europeans to arrive in 1543 had taken Japanese as slaves.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Portugal#Asians

    Russians were there in 1811 and they were sent back with gifts exchanged.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golovnin_Incident

    Kanto earthquake 1923 was a six-digit death toll disaster. If something like that had happened in British Isles, ethnic tensions might exacerbate and a lot more of Irish might made into mincemeat, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Ireland

    Russians and other Slavs started arriving in Japan in 1920’s and more came after the earthquake

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Japan#Russian_Revolution

    • Replies: @songbird
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Why do you hide your comments like you are doing something dishonest?
     
    'More' is deference to those who might not want to scroll through my spammy walls of text.

    I don't think it is controversial to say that East Asian societies, including Japan, were more closed off, on average, over the past 400 years or so, than European and in particular Western Europe.

    Probably a big part of it was related to geography.

    Of course, openness is something that be easily over-promoted or too idealized. But I am sure I have already said all of that.

    Russians were there in 1811 and they were sent back with gifts exchanged.

     

    Have never read Golovnin's book about his captivity, but it might be interesting.

    Daikokuya Kodayu's (another shipwreck survivor being returned earlier) companion seems have died when they were imprisoned in Hokkaido.

    Kanto earthquake 1923 was a six-digit death toll disaster. If something like that had happened in British Isles, ethnic tensions might exacerbate and a lot more of Irish might made into mincemeat, right?
     
    It's not really a testable scenario, but my suspicion would be no. Of course, if you moved it back a few hundred years, things might be more sanguinary, but urban society doesn't overlay too well with that history.

    I actually have some small reason to suspect that one of my ancestors was murdered in 1798 - but probably impossible to find out more about it, and it's quite possible he was a revolutionary, who had been involved in an earlier killing.
  652. @sudden death
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    top MMA female is Chinese
     
    Can't keep myself from posting the video in this instance, but Namajunas can kick his teeth too, lol
    It was several years ago, but still never stops being funny that majority of Russian comments seems to be rooting for Lithuanian Rose which was fighting for USA against Chinese champion;)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzgiRGZRpu0

    Replies: @LatW, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Namajunas can kick his teeth too

    Indeed.

    So it happens the father of Sambo grew up in Japan and even went back there in 1924, after the Kanto Massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Oshchepkov

    And for being too Japanophilic, he did not survive the Great Purge. But his legacy lives on

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дзюдо_в_России_и_СССР

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Have you seen the bear worship ceremonies of the Anu footage in Joseph Campbell Bill Moyers Power Myth Ep 3? I am curious where on the spectrum of real deal to show for tourists it falls. Scroll to 16:28 and it's only minute of recording. I have watched it at least ten times although I only had the sound on once.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij5cJtYLkvE

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  653. @Beckow
    @AP

    Thou protest too much....people in Galicia are Banderites-nationalists, people in Donbas and those left in the Russian-controlled parts of Zaporozhie are pro-Russian. There is no reason to think they would not vote that way - the 2019 election was under heavy nationalist control, in 2022 under pro-Russian control: people go with the flow. Lots of people who voted for Zelko in 2019 were pro-Russians hoping he was a genuine pro-peace candidate who also had a chance to win (Boyko didn't).

    Your desperate ruminations show your poorly developed thinking skills and the deep desperation you have fallen into: Kiev is losing, your "paused offensive" was a bloody failure, Ukies are now trying to draft men (and women) who left the country. The money is only trickling in, the West is losing interest. You autistically focus on unprovable "fraud" in the 2021 election that you or Kiev would never recognize and that makes no difference to the war outcome. This will be decided by force - the details will be filled in afterwards. The identical way Nato operates. Why are you surprised?

    Keep on counting the elderly this-and-that and yelling that Kosovo was "nothing like what's going on in Ukraine" - but it is almost identical, you just look stupid. The chickens are coming home to roost and there is really nothing anyone can do about it. What the f..k were your esteemed leaders thinking when starting the brutal wars to separate Kosovo from Serbia, and then in Iraq, Syria...? And the brilliant idea of Ukraine in Nato and Russians kicked out of Crimea - who are the neo-con idiots that you defend so much? Do you also like their war on Gaza?

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    What are the greater odds – the Kiev regime taking back Crimea and/or other former Ukrainian SSR land it presently doesn’t control, or a rump Ukraine consisting only of former Habsurg ruled territory?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    What are the greater odds?...rump Ukraine consisting only of former Habsburg ruled territory?
     
    This could still go in many unexpected directions...but more bloody it gets, more likely that there will be less of the 1991 Ukraine left.

    There were two options for the Ukies in the last generation:

    1. Ukraine with 40-50 million, the second largest state in Europe, rich in resources and trading in all directions (it is the centre), tolerant with the Russian speakers (around 40%), Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, all living in peace together. No stirring up of the WW2 Bandera crimes.

    Cost: maintain neutrality-no Nato, get paid for the Crimean bases, Russian language schools where people want it, take it easy and gradually live well. And possibly an end to the dream of "being in EU" (far-fetched anyway).

    2. Mono-ethnic Ukraine with the centuries deep Russian identity suppressed, Russia antagonized and trade cut-off. Nato invited in and Russians are kicked out of the crucial Crimea naval bases where they have been since the 18th century!

    Cost: Ukraine has shrunk to 25-30 million already and will be almost certainly much smaller. Nato has bailed on them and EU will keep promising and never deliver. And the destruction of the country.

    They will prevaricate, argue, live on dreams, wait for miracles, but the choice the Ukies made was tragic.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

  654. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @sudden death


    Namajunas can kick his teeth too
     
    Indeed.

    So it happens the father of Sambo grew up in Japan and even went back there in 1924, after the Kanto Massacre

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/VSOshchepkov1912.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Oshchepkov

    And for being too Japanophilic, he did not survive the Great Purge. But his legacy lives on

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дзюдо_в_России_и_СССР

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Have you seen the bear worship ceremonies of the Anu footage in Joseph Campbell Bill Moyers Power Myth Ep 3? I am curious where on the spectrum of real deal to show for tourists it falls. Scroll to 16:28 and it’s only minute of recording. I have watched it at least ten times although I only had the sound on once.

    • Thanks: LatW
    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It's called iomante "sending away a bear" or 熊送り くまおくり Kumaokuri, there's similar practice by Finns that probably has a common origin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peijaiset

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/AinuBearSacrificeCirca1870.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Brooklyn_Museum_-_Local_Customs_of_the_Ainu.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/%E6%9D%91%E7%80%AC%E7%BE%A9%E5%BE%B3%E3%80%8C%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%8C%E7%86%8A%E7%A5%AD%E5%B1%8F%E9%A2%A8%E3%80%8D%EF%BC%88%E5%8F%B3%EF%BC%89%E5%B8%82%E7%AB%8B%E5%87%BD%E9%A4%A8%E5%8D%9A%E7%89%A9%E9%A4%A8%E8%94%B5.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Brooklyn_Museum_-_Ezo_Shima_Kikan_3_of_a_set_of_three_scrolls.jpg

  655. I don’t think the evidence suggests Washington wants a total defeat of the Russian effort in Ukraine.
    Russia can add 100,000 trained soldiers a year. They are not losing, unless more than that number of regulars are being subtracted from the Russian armed Forces annually though KIAs and seriously wounds and those losses occur with a yearly overall attrition ratio greatly favoring the Ukrainian army, which is a big ask. The heavy losses of Zstorm convict units seems mainly a deliberate tactic to draw fire, thereby locating strongpoints, which then can be pinpoint targeted with FAB bombs.

    Russia conquering all Ukraine seems to be an unattainable objective now, especially given the defensive advantage conferred by the so called transparent battlefield. It would be surprising if Russia is persisting without a rock bottom objective of neutralising Ukraine as an asset of of the Washington alliance as essential. I would really like someone to explain to me how the Russians are going to be made to stop fighting without attaining the aforementioned objective.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    Washington probably wants enough of a Russian military defeat in Ukraine such that pro-RusFed factions in Russia are discredited allowing Atlanticist factions to be boosted. They want enough of a victory that allows similar anti-Russia projects in Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, Kaliningrad, Kazakhstan and DPRK to be accelerated. They want enough of a Russian economic defeat that her military will not be able to rebuild conventional forces. As part of all this they eventually want to pressure Russia to make nuclear weapons concessions of some sort.

    The result on all of these goals seems to be disastrous failure.

    Replies: @Sean

  656. @Beckow
    @AP

    Thou protest too much....people in Galicia are Banderites-nationalists, people in Donbas and those left in the Russian-controlled parts of Zaporozhie are pro-Russian. There is no reason to think they would not vote that way - the 2019 election was under heavy nationalist control, in 2022 under pro-Russian control: people go with the flow. Lots of people who voted for Zelko in 2019 were pro-Russians hoping he was a genuine pro-peace candidate who also had a chance to win (Boyko didn't).

    Your desperate ruminations show your poorly developed thinking skills and the deep desperation you have fallen into: Kiev is losing, your "paused offensive" was a bloody failure, Ukies are now trying to draft men (and women) who left the country. The money is only trickling in, the West is losing interest. You autistically focus on unprovable "fraud" in the 2021 election that you or Kiev would never recognize and that makes no difference to the war outcome. This will be decided by force - the details will be filled in afterwards. The identical way Nato operates. Why are you surprised?

    Keep on counting the elderly this-and-that and yelling that Kosovo was "nothing like what's going on in Ukraine" - but it is almost identical, you just look stupid. The chickens are coming home to roost and there is really nothing anyone can do about it. What the f..k were your esteemed leaders thinking when starting the brutal wars to separate Kosovo from Serbia, and then in Iraq, Syria...? And the brilliant idea of Ukraine in Nato and Russians kicked out of Crimea - who are the neo-con idiots that you defend so much? Do you also like their war on Gaza?

    Replies: @Mikhail, @AP

    people in Galicia are Banderites-nationalists, people in Donbas and

    Yes.

    those left in the Russian-controlled parts of Zaporozhie are pro-Russian

    No.

    There weren’t enough of them in 2019 to be a majority now.

    There is no reason to think they would not vote that way – the 2019 election was under heavy nationalist control

    And yet the pro-Russian party won in Kiev-controlled Donbas, but got only 16% of the vote in Kherson.

    Lots of people who voted for Zelko in 2019 were pro-Russians hoping he was a genuine pro-peace candidate who also had a chance to win

    Nonsense.

    This was true in the 2nd round when it was Poroshenko vs. Zelensky but not in the first round.

    Zelensky was explicitly pro-NATO and anti-Russia. He just wanted a softer approach than Poroshenko. Boyko wanted treaties with Russia, opposed NATO, wanted language status, etc.

    In the first round the pro-Russians did not vote for pro-NATO Zelensky but for their own candidate, Boyko. He got only 16% in Kherson.

    And of course a vote for Boyko didn’t indicate support for Russian annexation. Only some if his electorate would go that far. Many of his voters are fighting against Russia.

    Your desperate ruminations

    Lying is the result of desperation. You do that, not me.

    Kiev is losing, your “paused offensive” was a bloody failure, Ukies are now trying to draft men (and women) who left the country. The money is only trickling in, the West is losing interest

    And yet Russia hasn’t beeen able to take more than a few km, at terrible cost to itself.

    You autistically focus on unprovable “fraud” in the 2021 election

    When you are caught lying you cry “autism” as usual.

    In 2019, only 16% voted for a pro-Russian candidate who platform was far less extreme than Russia annexation. In 2022 Russia claimed over 70% turnout with 87% supporting Russian annexation.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    You just dug yourself deeper into your idiotic, illogical nonsense...the electorate was obviously different: more pro-Russians stayed and only a part of Zaporzhie voted in 2021. People - everywhere - will go with the winner. But you seem too stupid to understand nuances of human behavior. I will leave you to it - if it was manipulated, so what? Do you really think anyone in Lviv feels free to express any pro-Russian views? Are you that dumb? But it makes no difference to the outcome of the war.

    Do you still maintain that the Ukie offensive is only "paused"? The situation is not good for Kiev (that is not in dispute), time is on Russia's side. How about your 45% chance of a breakthrough to the Azov Sea?

    The main question now is how large (or small) will be the rump-Ukraine and what restrictions it will have (no Nato). But the reality that Ukraine will be smaller and will have to live with some restrictions is now better than 80%...do you disagree? If yes, what will change the situation? And Putin not being alive or being overthrown is too speculative - do you have anything more tangible?

    Replies: @AP

  657. Among other things, reference to a WSJ article quoting a 47 year old Kiev regime combatant recalling how he was press ganged into service:

    Another South Vietnam, Afghanistan like exit in the works.

  658. @songbird
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Asian chicks got better skin if he likes that.
     
    Asian girls have some good qualities, but my preference is for really pale skin.

    Other than the fact that I have never been very attracted to very tanned girls, it was quite a while before I even was able to realize it, by considering commonalities in the girls that I thought were the most attractive.

    It is a pretty un-PC beauty standard in the West nowadays, so you don't hear people wax poetic about it anymore, like you might still to a limited extent with hair and eye color.

    I've often wondered about the origin of it. Whether it is family imprinting or the genes themselves. And if it would be more common tendency in Ireland than among the Germanics who seem almost equally pale to start, but can brown very deeply.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    My point was not to look at the color of the skin with your eyesight. I believe the relevant variable is pore size which you can’t even see without magnification. What might speed things up is take a big magnifying glass on your first date and ask them if you can take a close look at their skin pores.

    Anybody ever tried this?

  659. @Mikhail
    @Beckow

    What are the greater odds - the Kiev regime taking back Crimea and/or other former Ukrainian SSR land it presently doesn't control, or a rump Ukraine consisting only of former Habsurg ruled territory?

    Replies: @Beckow

    What are the greater odds?…rump Ukraine consisting only of former Habsburg ruled territory?

    This could still go in many unexpected directions…but more bloody it gets, more likely that there will be less of the 1991 Ukraine left.

    There were two options for the Ukies in the last generation:

    1. Ukraine with 40-50 million, the second largest state in Europe, rich in resources and trading in all directions (it is the centre), tolerant with the Russian speakers (around 40%), Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, all living in peace together. No stirring up of the WW2 Bandera crimes.

    Cost: maintain neutrality-no Nato, get paid for the Crimean bases, Russian language schools where people want it, take it easy and gradually live well. And possibly an end to the dream of “being in EU” (far-fetched anyway).

    2. Mono-ethnic Ukraine with the centuries deep Russian identity suppressed, Russia antagonized and trade cut-off. Nato invited in and Russians are kicked out of the crucial Crimea naval bases where they have been since the 18th century!

    Cost: Ukraine has shrunk to 25-30 million already and will be almost certainly much smaller. Nato has bailed on them and EU will keep promising and never deliver. And the destruction of the country.

    They will prevaricate, argue, live on dreams, wait for miracles, but the choice the Ukies made was tragic.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Beckow

    I doubt Russia has the energy or desire to remake most of Ukraine. I expect they will place most of the country under 'protective custody' of some sort. The degree to which this is onerous will be based on how zealous the Ukrainian nationalists want to be combined with how much outside Western support and empowerment they receive. I imagine Russia hopes to slightly change the hearts and minds in the big cities expecting this attitude adjustment to gradually diffuse through the population.

    If Russia can rebalance her economy and then gradually re-integrate with parts of the Ukrainian economy the prosperity in both countries may not be much different from the EU after a decade. I wonder if they will start with a strong CIS agricultural union since that seems important and easy...except for the mine clearing :(

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    , @Mikhail
    @Beckow


    They will prevaricate, argue, live on dreams, wait for miracles, but the choice the Ukies made was tragic.
     
    The undemocratic svido fringe and those that went with them, including Porky and the little delusional tyrant.

    As time passes more Ukes will blame the likes fat slob Bojo, US neocons/neolibs and Zelensky for the carnage
  660. @Gerard1234
    @Dmitry

    All completely useless and irrelevant stuff.

    The so-called "anti-immigration" right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries. So-called "anti-ukrainian" rhetoric is irrelevant - these 2 sets of animals (Poles and Banderetards) have proven themselves completely incompatible living with each other for centuries - but even then we still have the situation that we have now.

    The european populations have proven themselves useless/total bydlo in these gayropa states at having objections 5-10%+ of their government health, education, social expenditure directed immediately to a group of immigrants - as they have in a situation where their countries have increased overnight by 1%,2%,3% even 5% population with most of these people being economically incapable (children and pensioners) from 404.

    Every country has pissed off farmers , ultimately there is always subsidies they can give, things they can pretend to do, international conditions they can blame. Though they make the loudest noise, most of them are wealthy anyway and are an easily expendable part of the electorate.

    Most gayropa states have had changes of governments in the last few years ( exception France) and a combination of conditions involving both the coronavirus and Russia indirectly I would guess has critical role in this - none of it changes the foreign policy

    Replies: @A123, @Yevardian

    The so-called “anti-immigration” right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries

    There are potential gains from Christian migration.

    • Some Ukrainian women are feminine & attract Polish men into Christian marriage. This is good for family formation and TFR.
    • Weak minded, native Leftoids who insist on woke extremism instead of marriage lose the chance to reproduce. This also improves the gene pool.

    After the fighting ends, many Ukrainians will leave. There is a large collection of men that do not want to be conscripted into Zelensky’s certain failure. Most will eagerly go home once Kiev becomes rational again.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @A123

    All true. But imagine if a country said that 5% of the health budget or education budget or housing budget was going to be diverted to foreign aid? Even those who donate big amounts to poor foreign countries would be annoyed. Effectively that is what they have done with the ukrainians.

    German rightwing have taken up the a** 1 million Syrians and now 2 million Ukrainians in only a few years. I don't agree with it, but ultimately the improved living standards for the middle & upper & even some working classes from having the cheap foreign labour.....appears to be winning politically over the decreased cultural standards for them.

    Polish gays can't be salvaged. These fags have been defeated militarily all the time for centuries.........if they are not attracted to the many beautiful women of Poland , then the many beautiful women of Ukraine will not much change that situation.

  661. @AP
    @Beckow


    people in Galicia are Banderites-nationalists, people in Donbas and
     
    Yes.

    those left in the Russian-controlled parts of Zaporozhie are pro-Russian
     
    No.

    There weren’t enough of them in 2019 to be a majority now.

    There is no reason to think they would not vote that way – the 2019 election was under heavy nationalist control

     

    And yet the pro-Russian party won in Kiev-controlled Donbas, but got only 16% of the vote in Kherson.

    Lots of people who voted for Zelko in 2019 were pro-Russians hoping he was a genuine pro-peace candidate who also had a chance to win
     
    Nonsense.

    This was true in the 2nd round when it was Poroshenko vs. Zelensky but not in the first round.

    Zelensky was explicitly pro-NATO and anti-Russia. He just wanted a softer approach than Poroshenko. Boyko wanted treaties with Russia, opposed NATO, wanted language status, etc.

    In the first round the pro-Russians did not vote for pro-NATO Zelensky but for their own candidate, Boyko. He got only 16% in Kherson.

    And of course a vote for Boyko didn’t indicate support for Russian annexation. Only some if his electorate would go that far. Many of his voters are fighting against Russia.

    Your desperate ruminations
     
    Lying is the result of desperation. You do that, not me.

    Kiev is losing, your “paused offensive” was a bloody failure, Ukies are now trying to draft men (and women) who left the country. The money is only trickling in, the West is losing interest
     
    And yet Russia hasn’t beeen able to take more than a few km, at terrible cost to itself.

    You autistically focus on unprovable “fraud” in the 2021 election
     
    When you are caught lying you cry “autism” as usual.

    In 2019, only 16% voted for a pro-Russian candidate who platform was far less extreme than Russia annexation. In 2022 Russia claimed over 70% turnout with 87% supporting Russian annexation.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You just dug yourself deeper into your idiotic, illogical nonsense…the electorate was obviously different: more pro-Russians stayed and only a part of Zaporzhie voted in 2021. People – everywhere – will go with the winner. But you seem too stupid to understand nuances of human behavior. I will leave you to it – if it was manipulated, so what? Do you really think anyone in Lviv feels free to express any pro-Russian views? Are you that dumb? But it makes no difference to the outcome of the war.

    Do you still maintain that the Ukie offensive is only “paused”? The situation is not good for Kiev (that is not in dispute), time is on Russia’s side. How about your 45% chance of a breakthrough to the Azov Sea?

    The main question now is how large (or small) will be the rump-Ukraine and what restrictions it will have (no Nato). But the reality that Ukraine will be smaller and will have to live with some restrictions is now better than 80%…do you disagree? If yes, what will change the situation? And Putin not being alive or being overthrown is too speculative – do you have anything more tangible?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    …the electorate was obviously different: more pro-Russians stayed and only a part of Zaporzhie voted in 2021.
     
    According to Russia, turnout was over 70%.

    The change in electorate of course would not be enough to swing pro-annexation form around 5% of the population to nearly 90%.

    People – everywhere – will go with the winner.
     
    Those are Slovaks, who were pro-Nazi and then pro-Commie.

    Most people are not Slovaks.

    Do you still maintain that the Ukie offensive is only “paused”?
     
    Until those accumulated forces are actually destroyed it is still a pause, that can potentially be restarted.

    The situation is not good for Kiev (that is not in dispute), time is on Russia’s side. How about your 45% chance of a breakthrough to the Azov Sea?
     
    It will depend on the USA's funding, which is still uncertain. If it goes through adequately in January it will be the same.

    Replies: @Beckow

  662. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    Nice example of failed Soviet Civil “engineering” education


    LMAO. Leaving alone the fact you are a lying wakjob and clearly don’t even know what Civil engineering is judging by these dumb comments-it is stating the obvious to say a Soviet Civil Engineer can go anywhere in the west, anywhere around the world
     
    And yet you were caught living in the worst and most post-industrial part of England, alongside hordes from Pakistan. Couldn’t do any better in life.

    And your “education” was such that you didn’t know when to use median versus when to use mean.

    I told you to cry more and you certainly did. For paragraph after paragraph. :-)

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    And yet you were caught living in the worst and most post-industrial part of England, alongside hordes from Pakistan

    LOL. No-you were caught fantasising about me living in the worst and most post-industrial park of England …..because you are a lying, fantasist, severely disturbed POS. Obviously you dream of that because Russians like me, living in Russia who speak Russian , can easily disprove your maniacally braindead BS. Its proven from multiple examples of your nonsense you have never been to Ukraine/Russia, and in the most comedic way it has been emphatically proven you can’t speak the languages. And the sockpuppets blatantly of yours spamming the other equivalent sites.
    You are a sick individual………and you know it.

    alongside hordes from Pakistan

    wtf!! HAHA! Pakistan must be at the same level as wealth as Banderastan you dumb fuck. Certainly superior to the Galicians in GDP. It’s a bizarre statement to make because Pakistan’s neighbour, Afghanistan ,would be a more suitable equivalent for Ukraine. Imagine how even more wealthy than Galician ukronazis the Pakistanis would be if they had received the same Russian/Soviet great education as them?

    What does it say about 404 that westerners trust the Pakistanis (bordered by the Taliban) to have nuclear weapons ahead of khokhols?!! The provincial mentality with fused with centuries of inbreeding and genetic defects…..must be viewed as far more of a problem in Galicia by the west….and the inbred with genetic defects in Pakistan viewed as far more sophisticated ,LOL.

    You could put about 20000 Pakistani’s in Ukraine and they would be taking control of the country’s money ahead of Khokhols ….just like the Jews, the americans, the British and others have done and are doing.

    Pakistan has western place names like Abbotabad……….. the fake heartland of the fake “Ukraine” is the muslim world-name ,Cherkassy, LOL. It would not shock me if there are more muslim-world names in “Ukrainian” mova – than there are in whatever language in Pakistan.

    Muslims ruled over large parts of India, and you could consider them as Pakistanis. “Ukrainians” never ruled over ANY parts of ANYWHERE of “Ukraine” you dumb shit. They just whored and parasited off mostly Russian land but also the Turks and the Poles.

    Far more Muslims are named in fake “Ukrainian” national myths as “resistors” or practical contributers to the nation – Kozak Mamay, numerous Atamans and Getmans who were muslim converts/turkish citizens…..than any Uniate plankton , who are of course nowhere in these myths, that are written ( or plagiarised from Russian/Soviet liberals) by Uniate diaspora plankton.

    The West took Bid Laden from Pakistan. The homosexual couples of the west (and Belgian paedos probably) take children from Ukraine to raise as their own!!

    Imagine the shame where famous western entertainers looking to adopt children from the poorest countries like Angola,Benin etc – for the 1 famous western entertainer, famous faggot entertain Elton John looking to go “white” in his poor country homosexual adoption…….chooses Ukraine!!!!!

    So in most aspects state management in Pakistan is superior to Banderastan, certainly Pakistani nationalists are superior to Ukrainian nationalists you deranged , racist scumbag…….

    Muslim death cults are far less suicidal and primitive than Ukronazi deathcults – an undisputable fact as we are seeing now and in history.

    How rude for you to talk about Pakistanis like that………but I suppose for a piece of garbage like you faking trying to be Ukrainian, the best way to fake it would be by showing delusions of grandeur and superiority to others that you have absolutely nothing to base that on, because that is “authentic Ukrainian” behaviour.

    I told you to cry more and you certainly did. For paragraph after paragraph.

    Explaining basic things to a retard with severe mental problems, while writing in my third language does require a few short paragraphs. Anyway I have been away from here a few months…you have been writing billions of comments in your non-life during that time. I deserve a few paragraphs.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    LOL. No-you were caught fantasising about me living in the worst and most post-industrial park of England
     
    Our former host wrote here that he found you posting from an industrial part of England (he wasn't specific about which one so as not to doxx you).

    So you moved to the worst part of England, where you post from. Your English has become okay, but you make mistakes with your Russian, which apparently you have partially forgotten as you've settled into your new life as a low-skilled immigrant in England.

    Quite a lot of crying because I visit Moscow, Russia's best city, more than you do. I won't count the paragraphs this time.

    And, as a Soviet civil "engineer", you've still failed to understand why median is a better measure than mean when counting people.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

  663. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    I'm not the only one:

    WATCH THIS:

    https://youtu.be/ShimQdfhZA0

    Replies: @QCIC

    Wow, they are good friends.

    My squirrel faves are:

    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.

    Little red squirrels since they are mega-hyperactive and have a lot of personality.

    Honorable mention for chipmunks because they are cute and friendly, industrious and have racing stripes.

    I agree with the notion that the standard grey ones are sort of rats with fluffy tails. The black ones are devil squirrels.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.
     
    Espionage.

    https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.5243422184.6554/st,extra_large,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

    Replies: @LatW

    , @songbird
    @QCIC


    agree with the notion that the standard grey ones are sort of rats with fluffy tails
     
    They actually exclude tree rats from their territory, just as wolves don't tolerate coyotes.

    Just earlier today, I was walking underneath a tree, when, whammo, one dropped a shell on my head.
    , @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    I had a cat that would take down squirrels and drop them in front of me as what's believed by some to be a gift ritual. With their powerful jaws, squirrels can be deadly to a dog and cat.

  664. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Why haven't the giant ground based oscilloscopes put a stop to these satellite constellations? Do they have the ability to remove the satellite images without degrading the astronomical images?

    Replies: @songbird

    Part of the problem is that they add ambient or diffuse light to the sky, in addition to being bright spots. Another is that some types of long exposure observations might not be able to sustain the data loss.

    BTW, I didn’t realize some of these things are actually above Hubble.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    I didn't know that about Hubble.

    Maybe it turns out for most big telescopes with a very small field of view the satellites do not pass through the image very often. Wide field telescopes like the Rubin must have to deal with this issue.

  665. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Wow, they are good friends.

    My squirrel faves are:

    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.

    Little red squirrels since they are mega-hyperactive and have a lot of personality.

    Honorable mention for chipmunks because they are cute and friendly, industrious and have racing stripes.

    I agree with the notion that the standard grey ones are sort of rats with fluffy tails. The black ones are devil squirrels.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Mikhail

    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.

    Espionage.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    Espionage.
     
    You don't say. I was in a tent once at night while on a camping trip, and deep in the night, I hear something go "splat" on top of the tent - really, that was a weird sound, like a tiny body landing with full force. It was so puzzling - what critter is this, since a normal squirrel would not land that way and would not jump on top of the tent. And then the following morning, someone or something had crawled into the bags with food, listen to this - opened the tiny plastic bag in which the peanut butter sandwich was wrapped in and left a nice indentation of their teeth on the sandwich. It was so hilarious how deliberate and sneaky this animal had been. Seriously, borderline espionage level skills.
  666. @Sean
    I don't think the evidence suggests Washington wants a total defeat of the Russian effort in Ukraine.
    Russia can add 100,000 trained soldiers a year. They are not losing, unless more than that number of regulars are being subtracted from the Russian armed Forces annually though KIAs and seriously wounds and those losses occur with a yearly overall attrition ratio greatly favoring the Ukrainian army, which is a big ask. The heavy losses of Zstorm convict units seems mainly a deliberate tactic to draw fire, thereby locating strongpoints, which then can be pinpoint targeted with FAB bombs.

    Russia conquering all Ukraine seems to be an unattainable objective now, especially given the defensive advantage conferred by the so called transparent battlefield. It would be surprising if Russia is persisting without a rock bottom objective of neutralising Ukraine as an asset of of the Washington alliance as essential. I would really like someone to explain to me how the Russians are going to be made to stop fighting without attaining the aforementioned objective.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Washington probably wants enough of a Russian military defeat in Ukraine such that pro-RusFed factions in Russia are discredited allowing Atlanticist factions to be boosted. They want enough of a victory that allows similar anti-Russia projects in Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, Kaliningrad, Kazakhstan and DPRK to be accelerated. They want enough of a Russian economic defeat that her military will not be able to rebuild conventional forces. As part of all this they eventually want to pressure Russia to make nuclear weapons concessions of some sort.

    The result on all of these goals seems to be disastrous failure.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @QCIC


    Washington probably wants enough of a Russian military defeat in Ukraine so that pro-RusFed factions in Russia are discredited allowing Atlanticist factions to be boosted. [....] They want enough of a Russian economic defeat that her military will not be able to rebuild conventional forces
     
    Not clear how such a defeat could possibly occur as Russia ccould always stubbornly keep fighting.
  667. @A123
    @Gerard1234


    The so-called “anti-immigration” right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries
     
    There are potential gains from Christian migration.

    • Some Ukrainian women are feminine & attract Polish men into Christian marriage. This is good for family formation and TFR.
    • Weak minded, native Leftoids who insist on woke extremism instead of marriage lose the chance to reproduce. This also improves the gene pool.

    After the fighting ends, many Ukrainians will leave. There is a large collection of men that do not want to be conscripted into Zelensky's certain failure. Most will eagerly go home once Kiev becomes rational again.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    All true. But imagine if a country said that 5% of the health budget or education budget or housing budget was going to be diverted to foreign aid? Even those who donate big amounts to poor foreign countries would be annoyed. Effectively that is what they have done with the ukrainians.

    German rightwing have taken up the a** 1 million Syrians and now 2 million Ukrainians in only a few years. I don’t agree with it, but ultimately the improved living standards for the middle & upper & even some working classes from having the cheap foreign labour…..appears to be winning politically over the decreased cultural standards for them.

    Polish gays can’t be salvaged. These fags have been defeated militarily all the time for centuries………if they are not attracted to the many beautiful women of Poland , then the many beautiful women of Ukraine will not much change that situation.

  668. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    And yet you were caught living in the worst and most post-industrial part of England, alongside hordes from Pakistan
     
    LOL. No-you were caught fantasising about me living in the worst and most post-industrial park of England .....because you are a lying, fantasist, severely disturbed POS. Obviously you dream of that because Russians like me, living in Russia who speak Russian , can easily disprove your maniacally braindead BS. Its proven from multiple examples of your nonsense you have never been to Ukraine/Russia, and in the most comedic way it has been emphatically proven you can't speak the languages. And the sockpuppets blatantly of yours spamming the other equivalent sites.
    You are a sick individual.........and you know it.

    alongside hordes from Pakistan
     
    wtf!! HAHA! Pakistan must be at the same level as wealth as Banderastan you dumb fuck. Certainly superior to the Galicians in GDP. It's a bizarre statement to make because Pakistan's neighbour, Afghanistan ,would be a more suitable equivalent for Ukraine. Imagine how even more wealthy than Galician ukronazis the Pakistanis would be if they had received the same Russian/Soviet great education as them?

    What does it say about 404 that westerners trust the Pakistanis (bordered by the Taliban) to have nuclear weapons ahead of khokhols?!! The provincial mentality with fused with centuries of inbreeding and genetic defects.....must be viewed as far more of a problem in Galicia by the west....and the inbred with genetic defects in Pakistan viewed as far more sophisticated ,LOL.

    You could put about 20000 Pakistani's in Ukraine and they would be taking control of the country's money ahead of Khokhols ....just like the Jews, the americans, the British and others have done and are doing.

    Pakistan has western place names like Abbotabad........... the fake heartland of the fake "Ukraine" is the muslim world-name ,Cherkassy, LOL. It would not shock me if there are more muslim-world names in "Ukrainian" mova - than there are in whatever language in Pakistan.

    Muslims ruled over large parts of India, and you could consider them as Pakistanis. "Ukrainians" never ruled over ANY parts of ANYWHERE of "Ukraine" you dumb shit. They just whored and parasited off mostly Russian land but also the Turks and the Poles.


    Far more Muslims are named in fake "Ukrainian" national myths as "resistors" or practical contributers to the nation - Kozak Mamay, numerous Atamans and Getmans who were muslim converts/turkish citizens.....than any Uniate plankton , who are of course nowhere in these myths, that are written ( or plagiarised from Russian/Soviet liberals) by Uniate diaspora plankton.

    The West took Bid Laden from Pakistan. The homosexual couples of the west (and Belgian paedos probably) take children from Ukraine to raise as their own!!

    Imagine the shame where famous western entertainers looking to adopt children from the poorest countries like Angola,Benin etc - for the 1 famous western entertainer, famous faggot entertain Elton John looking to go "white" in his poor country homosexual adoption.......chooses Ukraine!!!!!

    So in most aspects state management in Pakistan is superior to Banderastan, certainly Pakistani nationalists are superior to Ukrainian nationalists you deranged , racist scumbag.......

    Muslim death cults are far less suicidal and primitive than Ukronazi deathcults - an undisputable fact as we are seeing now and in history.

    How rude for you to talk about Pakistanis like that.........but I suppose for a piece of garbage like you faking trying to be Ukrainian, the best way to fake it would be by showing delusions of grandeur and superiority to others that you have absolutely nothing to base that on, because that is "authentic Ukrainian" behaviour.


    I told you to cry more and you certainly did. For paragraph after paragraph.

     

    Explaining basic things to a retard with severe mental problems, while writing in my third language does require a few short paragraphs. Anyway I have been away from here a few months...you have been writing billions of comments in your non-life during that time. I deserve a few paragraphs.

    Replies: @AP

    LOL. No-you were caught fantasising about me living in the worst and most post-industrial park of England

    Our former host wrote here that he found you posting from an industrial part of England (he wasn’t specific about which one so as not to doxx you).

    So you moved to the worst part of England, where you post from. Your English has become okay, but you make mistakes with your Russian, which apparently you have partially forgotten as you’ve settled into your new life as a low-skilled immigrant in England.

    Quite a lot of crying because I visit Moscow, Russia’s best city, more than you do. I won’t count the paragraphs this time.

    And, as a Soviet civil “engineer”, you’ve still failed to understand why median is a better measure than mean when counting people.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Our former host wrote here that he found you posting from an industrial part of England (he wasn’t specific about which one so as not to doxx you).

    So you moved to the worst part of England, where you post from. Your English has become okay, but you make mistakes with your Russian, which apparently you have partially forgotten as you’ve settled into your new life as a low-skilled immigrant in England.
     
    LMAO!!! So you, as a non-life fantasist have no option but to lie and then lie again.......then lie even more just to make it so obvious that you are lying and projecting what you wish to be true ( and adding Britain to the list of places you know nothing about, outside of your Jabba the Hut non-life lifestyle.

    As you know. None of what you are saying is true ( neither does it matter anyway , but it just shows how tedious nonsense is the only tactic for filth like you) . Either you are lying by yourself or Karlin would have mislead you as I was having severe disagreement with him at the time and he had some PMS.......and attention-whores like you are probably having private correspondence with him before begging to ban me and do a stunt like that. But all ended fine with him and I wish him well. Different to you, he is sane and can speak Russian

    There is nothing threatening for me to be "doxx" or can I be anyway due to the connection I use, you though would without doubt commit suicide out of shame for the family if you were ( and lol do you act like that is the circumstance)

    Anyway, now repeat after me the glorious and typical slavic name of Cherkassy!!

    Replies: @AP

    , @Gerard1234
    @AP


    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.
     
    I agree about Moscow. Never been there in my life and could not locate in on the map. There is no sign of direct flights opening between Kazan and Idaho. Knowing nothing about Idaho, I would take a guess that is like Montana (which I have visited), but different to a lowlife like you - I am not going to write 1000's of spamtroll posts on something or place I know nothing about.

    I can only think of Moscow in Idaho is what you are talking about , because it sure as f**k isn't Moscow in Russia for a scumbag fantasist as yourself ! Notice there are Russian places in North America, different to "Ukrainian" place names ....where there is not a single one, LMAO.

    As for the real Moscow, I was there 7 weeks ago ,idiot.

    But that brings me to a serious point. Obviously you have never been to Ukraine or Russia, but by copying Banderatard diaspora in US, you can pretend to be like them by of course never stepping in "Ukraine" to defend "your" people. LOL. The last place to expect to find these Galician diaspora would of course be anywhere near the frontline.

    Even worse is why a fantasist loser as yourself, wasting time by doing total nonsense on here, isn't doing something useful ....like taking into the US on sponsorship scheme any "Ukrainian" currently being "genocided" by Russia? LOL. "Strange" why you wouldn't do that with no physical cost to yourself or even financial?

    Millions of ukrops DESPERATE to get the green card every year before the SMO. Now since the SMO , even more are desperate to come........and now they can get into America and Canada for free and earn a life-changing amount of money in a very short time for them and their families.
    US and Canada governments giving money to people taking them into their homes.........but no sign of any in your house (well, mothers basement not house for you possibly)

    Outside of WASPs, liberals, sextourists,Jews with Soviet or Russian vendetta......the pitiful number of 200000 ukrops allowed into US and Canada could only indicate that the large majority of scumbag, CIA-smuggled Banderetard diaspora have not allowed Ukrainians to immigrate and live in their homes.

    The SMO has allowed ANY Ukrainian to come, with those with relative in US even easier - but it seems mostly American fatslug sextourists have taken advantage of this..........it appears every Instagram Ukrainian whore who is young, beautiful and single appears to have acquired an American to sponsor her into the country. It seems to be Hawaii, Oregon, New York, Florida or California every time for each of them relocated to. Normal hardworking ukrop family that always dreamed of the US.......not so much luck in benefactor for them.

    Anyone else explain why this fake doctor AP troll, faking being Ukrainian .........is NOT saving any ukrops by bringing them into his house?? LOL

    Replies: @AP, @Jazman

  669. @songbird
    @QCIC

    Part of the problem is that they add ambient or diffuse light to the sky, in addition to being bright spots. Another is that some types of long exposure observations might not be able to sustain the data loss.

    BTW, I didn't realize some of these things are actually above Hubble.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I didn’t know that about Hubble.

    Maybe it turns out for most big telescopes with a very small field of view the satellites do not pass through the image very often. Wide field telescopes like the Rubin must have to deal with this issue.

  670. @Mr. Hack
    @songbird


    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the ’50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.
     
    Perhaps, the Lone Ranger show offered a bit of balance to the typical Hollywood depiction of American Indians as being only a cutthroat and savage race, picking on the innocent noble white race? I grew up watching this show and enjoyed the comradery and friendship displayed between the Lone Ranger and Tonto.

    Replies: @songbird

    Perhaps, the Lone Ranger show offered a bit of balance to the typical Hollywood depiction of American Indians as being only a cutthroat and savage race, picking on the innocent noble white race?

    Euro villains or other shady characters have generally long been a part of Westerns or other movies with Indians. In no period were they ennobled to the same extent.

    [MORE]

    IIRC, Stagecoach (1939) had a hooker and an embezzler. Drums Along the Mohawk (same year) a Loyalist giving the Indians arms and stirring them up.

    I am not entirely unsympathetic to the idea that Indians are a very defeated people and it is bad manners to kick them when they are down.

    Problem is that foundational American mythology is built on the conquest, and if that is made to seem evil, then you are undermining the foundational basis of America and even harming Europe by association. And there is no easy replacement for the founding myth, except the extreme universalism that has been purveyed, which really is just anti-Euro in nature, when you remove its veneer.

    One can be open-handed, without being suicidal.

    Victimhood doesn’t result in positive role models, if that is the goal.

    Personally, I would have much preferred to see Indians given some of the attention that blacks have been given. That is being in buddy cop movies and the like, where they could have been idealized masculine role models, and models for their people. Though, IMo, they seem to have been quite neglected in favor of blacks.

    I grew up watching this show and enjoyed the comradery and friendship displayed between the Lone Ranger and Tonto.

    Tonto is considered quite a taboo character by the Woke these days for being ESL.

    Presumably, they might prefer the Oxford-educated half-breed Mingo from Daniel Boone, who spoke a more cultivated lingo.

  671. @Beckow
    @AP

    You just dug yourself deeper into your idiotic, illogical nonsense...the electorate was obviously different: more pro-Russians stayed and only a part of Zaporzhie voted in 2021. People - everywhere - will go with the winner. But you seem too stupid to understand nuances of human behavior. I will leave you to it - if it was manipulated, so what? Do you really think anyone in Lviv feels free to express any pro-Russian views? Are you that dumb? But it makes no difference to the outcome of the war.

    Do you still maintain that the Ukie offensive is only "paused"? The situation is not good for Kiev (that is not in dispute), time is on Russia's side. How about your 45% chance of a breakthrough to the Azov Sea?

    The main question now is how large (or small) will be the rump-Ukraine and what restrictions it will have (no Nato). But the reality that Ukraine will be smaller and will have to live with some restrictions is now better than 80%...do you disagree? If yes, what will change the situation? And Putin not being alive or being overthrown is too speculative - do you have anything more tangible?

    Replies: @AP

    …the electorate was obviously different: more pro-Russians stayed and only a part of Zaporzhie voted in 2021.

    According to Russia, turnout was over 70%.

    The change in electorate of course would not be enough to swing pro-annexation form around 5% of the population to nearly 90%.

    People – everywhere – will go with the winner.

    Those are Slovaks, who were pro-Nazi and then pro-Commie.

    Most people are not Slovaks.

    Do you still maintain that the Ukie offensive is only “paused”?

    Until those accumulated forces are actually destroyed it is still a pause, that can potentially be restarted.

    The situation is not good for Kiev (that is not in dispute), time is on Russia’s side. How about your 45% chance of a breakthrough to the Azov Sea?

    It will depend on the USA’s funding, which is still uncertain. If it goes through adequately in January it will be the same.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...potentially restarted... still uncertain
     
    The weasel words of a loser. You are in a good place, keep on digging...

    Most people are not Slovaks.
     
    Thank god for that. We amuse ourselves with Polish 'heroism', Czech brown-nosing, Galician Ukie childish yearnings, and the scatological German lack of judgment...but we like the Austrians, good pastries...:)

    Replies: @AP

  672. @AP
    @QCIC


    Most of the destruction in Ukraine is the result of artillery battles between heavily armed troops on both sides with most civilians long gone.
     
    So Ukraine encouraged the evacuation of civilians while Hamas did not.

    Other nastier damage is the result of Russian missile attacks on Ukrainian military targets embedded amongst human shields leading to tragic collateral damage.
     
    Russia attacks a country's cities which have soldiers and military infrastructure in them, thereby killing civilians in those cities.

    Gaza is different.
     
    Of course it is.

    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza, triggering the Israeli response. Ukraine did not leave Ukraine's borders prior to being attacked.

    Ukraine encourages evacuation from front-line war zones.

    Hamas prevented evacuation from the war zone.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @LondonBob, @AnonfromTN

    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza

    FYI, many of the kibbutzes and Israeli military bases attacked by Hamas were not on Israeli territory, but on Gaza territory annexed by Israel. Just compare UN maps of 1946-47 with today’s ones.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    How about comparing numbers? Total numbers, per day numbers, the numbers of killed children, total and per day.

    I know honesty is politically incorrect. The reality would debunk the narratives promoted by the shameless empire and its equally shameless sidekicks.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza

    FYI, many of the kibbutzes and Israeli military bases attacked by Hamas were not on Israeli territory, but on Gaza territory annexed by Israel. Just compare UN maps of 1946-47 with today’s ones.
     
    Well, in 1948 Egypt and other Arab countries invaded Israel and most the war, resulting in new borders that were agreed upon as armistice lines in 1949 and formally recognized in 1979.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    How about comparing numbers? Total numbers, per day numbers, the numbers of killed children, total and per day.
     
    We don’t have credible numbers: the number of Gaza victims comes from Hamas and Russians aren’t allowing UN to investigate on Russian-controlled territory.

    Per UN, they have counted about 10,000 killed civilians since 2022 in Ukraine but the UN states that the actual number is far higher. There are probably at least another 10,000 dead in Mariupol alone.

    I would not be surprised if Israel has killed many more Palestinians per capita than Russia has killed Ukrainians per capita; Ukraine tries to evacuate civilians from the front*, while Hamas wants to maximize civilian deaths because these deaths are good for anti-Israeli PR.

    * The Ukrainians least likely to evacuate are the most pro-Russians ones, the so-called zhduny (ждуни), who are waiting for Russian rule. So ironically, Russia is killing off a disproportionate number of pro-Russian Ukrainians. Putin is doing Bandera’s dirty work.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  673. @Beckow
    @John Johnson

    You are evading the points: Kiev is fighting for Nato and to be in Nato. It follows that they by definition endorse what Nato has done - including the much more murderous bombings of Beograd and Baghdad. That's what matters, not your own personal stand.

    There is no third side: it is Kiev's Ukraine with Nato against Russia with its Ukr allies. All else is noise. Wars do that, they simplify.

    If there were second thoughts in the West about what Nato did in its wars they were silenced - the people who did the wars were rewarded, media celebrated. It is too late to try to start all over - the Ukraine war is part of this recent history.

    That leaves you out on the limb with a non-existent cause: there is no Maidan-Ukraine without Nato. Somebody will win the war and set the new rules - from the beginning it looked like it will be Russia. It still does. Kiev-Nato had a brief moment when they could have salvaged something by making a deal - they refused.

    But your pretense that there is some "third party" that you champion is a fantasy. There isn't. It is Russia or Nato in Kiev. There is no other choice now, if there ever was.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    You are evading the points: Kiev is fighting for Nato and to be in Nato.

    I’m not evading anything. Ukraine is fighting for their existence.

    We don’t know if they will eventually join NATO. A compromise could be reached that keeps them out of NATO. That was supposedly offered by Zelensky at the start of the invasion.

    It follows that they by definition endorse what Nato has done – including the much more murderous bombings of Beograd and Baghdad.

    That doesn’t follow at all. I don’t care if Ukraine joins NATO so by your own attempt at logic you can’t assume I take every NATO position.

    That leaves you out on the limb with a non-existent cause: there is no Maidan-Ukraine without Nato.

    How am I on a limb? I would like Russia out of Ukraine and have stated since the start of this war that Putin could very well walk with a huge Eastern chunk. It was Putin’s fanboy bloggers that told us:

    1. A war won’t happen, it’s just a CIA/MI6 conspiracy
    2. The invasion has started! Ukraine will be defeated in days
    3. Ukraine will be defeated any moment (every month since Feb 2022)
    4. The dollar is doomed (dollar finished ahead of Ruble in 2022)
    5. Russia can produce anything they need (currently short on planes, winter gear, body armor, camo, boots, rations, small arms ammo, medical kits, artillery shells, and eggs)
    6. Putin leading BRICs will change everything (cheap Russian oil for India/Brazil did not create a new world order). Most BRICs countries voted that the invasion is illegal or abstained. Meaning they just want cheap oil.

    Nothing they have said has come true. In fact some of the pro-Putin Unz bloggers at the start of the war no longer mention him. One completely disappeared.

    I will be thrilled if Ukraine recaptures most of their territory. That will lead to a Western infusion of aid and development. Putin is mortal and a future Russian leader could give back the annexed territories. As I pointed out before the only way for Putin to win is to take the entire country. Putin himself said the war is about stopping NATO and that already failed. Finland joined NATO and they have more border with Russia than Ukraine.

  674. @AP
    @Beckow


    …the electorate was obviously different: more pro-Russians stayed and only a part of Zaporzhie voted in 2021.
     
    According to Russia, turnout was over 70%.

    The change in electorate of course would not be enough to swing pro-annexation form around 5% of the population to nearly 90%.

    People – everywhere – will go with the winner.
     
    Those are Slovaks, who were pro-Nazi and then pro-Commie.

    Most people are not Slovaks.

    Do you still maintain that the Ukie offensive is only “paused”?
     
    Until those accumulated forces are actually destroyed it is still a pause, that can potentially be restarted.

    The situation is not good for Kiev (that is not in dispute), time is on Russia’s side. How about your 45% chance of a breakthrough to the Azov Sea?
     
    It will depend on the USA's funding, which is still uncertain. If it goes through adequately in January it will be the same.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …potentially restarted… still uncertain

    The weasel words of a loser. You are in a good place, keep on digging…

    Most people are not Slovaks.

    Thank god for that. We amuse ourselves with Polish ‘heroism’, Czech brown-nosing, Galician Ukie childish yearnings, and the scatological German lack of judgment…but we like the Austrians, good pastries…:)

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    potentially restarted… still uncertain

    The weasel words of a loser
     

    It is not weasel-like to be honest about uncertainty. Naturally, you wouldn’t understand that.

    Most people are not Slovaks.

    Thank god for that
     

    Not really. If every nation whored itself out to whoever appeared to be stronger at a given time (Slovakia did it for the Nazis, then Communists) then either Nazis would have won or later Soviets would have ruled forever. And before that, Turks or Arabs.

    It is because of stubborn Poles, Russians, Austrians, Ukrainians, Spaniards, even French that the world is not a lot worse than it is.

    In recent history, the refusal and resistance of the Poles and later the Soviet peoples brought down the Nazis. The Polish resistance brought down the Soviet system in Eastern Europe. The end of the USSR itself was spearheaded by the brave and stubborn Balts and actualised by the Ukrainians.

  675. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @songbird

    Why do you hide your comments like you are doing something dishonest?

    The incident you mentioned was 1837

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrison_incident

    The first Europeans to arrive in 1543 had taken Japanese as slaves.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Portugal#Asians

    Russians were there in 1811 and they were sent back with gifts exchanged.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Capture_of_Russians_and_Vasily_Golovnin_by_Tokugawa_c1811_Part_5.png
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golovnin_Incident

    Kanto earthquake 1923 was a six-digit death toll disaster. If something like that had happened in British Isles, ethnic tensions might exacerbate and a lot more of Irish might made into mincemeat, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Ireland

    Russians and other Slavs started arriving in Japan in 1920's and more came after the earthquake

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Japan#Russian_Revolution

    Replies: @songbird

    Why do you hide your comments like you are doing something dishonest?

    ‘More’ is deference to those who might not want to scroll through my spammy walls of text.

    [MORE]

    I don’t think it is controversial to say that East Asian societies, including Japan, were more closed off, on average, over the past 400 years or so, than European and in particular Western Europe.

    Probably a big part of it was related to geography.

    Of course, openness is something that be easily over-promoted or too idealized. But I am sure I have already said all of that.

    Russians were there in 1811 and they were sent back with gifts exchanged.

    Have never read Golovnin’s book about his captivity, but it might be interesting.

    Daikokuya Kodayu’s (another shipwreck survivor being returned earlier) companion seems have died when they were imprisoned in Hokkaido.

    Kanto earthquake 1923 was a six-digit death toll disaster. If something like that had happened in British Isles, ethnic tensions might exacerbate and a lot more of Irish might made into mincemeat, right?

    It’s not really a testable scenario, but my suspicion would be no. Of course, if you moved it back a few hundred years, things might be more sanguinary, but urban society doesn’t overlay too well with that history.

    I actually have some small reason to suspect that one of my ancestors was murdered in 1798 – but probably impossible to find out more about it, and it’s quite possible he was a revolutionary, who had been involved in an earlier killing.

  676. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Wow, they are good friends.

    My squirrel faves are:

    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.

    Little red squirrels since they are mega-hyperactive and have a lot of personality.

    Honorable mention for chipmunks because they are cute and friendly, industrious and have racing stripes.

    I agree with the notion that the standard grey ones are sort of rats with fluffy tails. The black ones are devil squirrels.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Mikhail

    agree with the notion that the standard grey ones are sort of rats with fluffy tails

    They actually exclude tree rats from their territory, just as wolves don’t tolerate coyotes.

    Just earlier today, I was walking underneath a tree, when, whammo, one dropped a shell on my head.

  677. @Matra
    @LatW


    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I’d have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it “biased” today after what I’ve learned. Love those wild nature scenes
     
    In my first year at university I had to write a book review on The Jesuit Letters and Allied Documents which I assume was the source material for the novel Black Robe, written by Brian Moore, himself a non-believing Catholic from Northern Ireland. I rented the movie right after handing in my review aware that the movie was criticised for its "savage" portrayal of what Canadians now call First Nations. My conclusion after reading so many in-depth Jesuit letters about their New France experiences was that the filmmaker had actually gone easy on the Indians. There was also one fairly condescending scene in which a French settler, who rejects the faith and goes off with an Indian woman, mocks Christian beliefs in a way that I thought was so 20th century in tone & content that I assume the author or screenwriter was just inserting his opinion on Christianity rather than being based on any recorded words from an early settler.

    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made - mind you, not a lot of competition in that category.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made

    I rewatched it, enjoyed it once again, and, yes, it is quite un-PC (using the 90s term), in many ways, a rather unflattering portrayal of the Natives. I’m also biased with this movie (because I oppose Christianization of indigenous peoples) but the movie was convincing enough that I felt sympathy for the Jesuit priest. The lead character is not super spectacular, but interesting, and I especially liked how the character was almost cast out from the rest of the group and the representation of his utter physical and spiritual loneliness and separateness on the background of these wild, menacing landscapes, which highlighted the seeming futility of his mission and maybe even the fragility of human life.

    So they get captured by Iroquois, not Algonquin – they are led by a group of Algonquin converts.

    And I liked the original masculinity that was shown in the brief scene with the small Motagnais group, it was meant to be in a negative light, but I personally found attractive (to see Indians that are not emasculated).

    in-depth Jesuit letters about their New France experiences was that the filmmaker had actually gone easy on the Indians.

    Maybe they did not present the physical barbarity as much, but they presented the Natives as very primitive spiritually and intellectually, as well as needlessly spiteful. I doubt they were that dumb or unaware (regardless the watch thing). Understand that they were under immense stress due to illness and tribal warfare. This is the one demographic where I will take the exception and not side with the Euros. That doesn’t mean one can’t admit the shortcomings of either side. The context here is also not so much Euro against Native, but different groups of Natives against each other, and different Euros against each other on a new continent (a rather brutal continent).

    The young squaw was portrayed in a good light.

    There was also one fairly condescending scene in which a French settler, who rejects the faith and goes off with an Indian woman, mocks Christian beliefs in a way that I thought was so 20th century in tone

    I actually liked that character because, he was able to both retain some of his European roots, but also accepted the wilderness and I also really liked his acceptance of human nature (he accepted his sexuality – in this wilderness, it helped him to survive to have a relationship). As to that conversation, I actually liked it too, it showed some tension between these different religions, world views. It showed that how well the native religion fits with such a wild landscape. Also, it showed the trial of the priest – among all the other trials he had to go through, even if the priest is a “bigoted Christian” – these kinds of scenes, where he was abandoned, both physically and his religion, shows his immense trial, his persistence.

    Him walking in a black robe the whole movie is a great visual element as well, especially in the background of the northern landscapes. It separates him from the landscape, accentuating his loneliness and abandonment, but also sets him apart as a willful actor attempting to overcome dominating and powerful Nature. The reappearing image of the She-Manitou is the symbol of the power of Nature and the old spirit of this land. But almost reminiscent of Mother Mary at times as her apparition lingers close to those who are going through a great ordeal or who are seeing visions or passing from this world. So it’s a good juxtaposition of the two competing world views that still have the same female symbol at their core.

    I would say this movie is still non-woke, partly because it is French-Canadian (they probably were not as brainwashed yet) and also because it is quite old, made in 1991, before the real social liberalism took hold in North America. I think the mid to late 90s was in fact when it hit with full force and they must have skipped that or avoided just in time, since they made it right before the PC craze started for real.

    Definitely one of the movies that I’ve seen in my life that still sticks in my mind.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @LatW


    I would say this movie is still non-woke, partly because it is French-Canadian (they probably were not as brainwashed yet)
     
    French-Canadians used to be more PC than Anglos but it is now the other way round. The movie was made by an Australian and was, as I mentioned, written by an Irish immigrant to Canada so it wasn't really a French-Canadian movie in that respect. Anyway, you made some good points. I haven't seen the movie since 1993 so I might rent it out to refresh my knowledge.

    Incidentally, the movie that is almost unanimously considered to be the best Canadian move ever made is Mon oncle Antoine (My Uncle Antoine) 1971. It is also in French and set in an area of Quebec called Thetford Mines and Irlande (then called Ireland). It is on YouTube but there are no English subtitles.
  678. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.
     
    Espionage.

    https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.5243422184.6554/st,extra_large,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

    Replies: @LatW

    Espionage.

    You don’t say. I was in a tent once at night while on a camping trip, and deep in the night, I hear something go “splat” on top of the tent – really, that was a weird sound, like a tiny body landing with full force. It was so puzzling – what critter is this, since a normal squirrel would not land that way and would not jump on top of the tent. And then the following morning, someone or something had crawled into the bags with food, listen to this – opened the tiny plastic bag in which the peanut butter sandwich was wrapped in and left a nice indentation of their teeth on the sandwich. It was so hilarious how deliberate and sneaky this animal had been. Seriously, borderline espionage level skills.

  679. Russia using unsupported infantry attacks:
    https://funker530.com/video/russian-infantry-assault-squashed-by-cluster-munitions/

    What is next? Will my joke about Russians on horseback actually come true?

    Nice to see the Ukrainians still have some cluster ammo left.

  680. @songbird
    @LatW


    The movie was called Black Robe.
     
    Haven't seen it.

    There is a huge number of tribes, even within a large family there could be tens of smaller tribes.

     

    Have heard that the last Europeans to have tribes were the Montenegrins. I've been curious if a more detailed description of them might exist than in other places.

    For example, in some tribes they were super strict about abortion.
     
    well, their numbers are declining, and traditionally, they didn't care much about legitimacy, other than the man potentially being cucked. Plus they don't have a lot and need a spiritual glue to unite them.

    I must be honest with you, LatW.

    Putting all the hardnosed mathematical considerations aside, in the past, I have often been very offput by teenage girls volunteering how they have essentially adopted the most anti-Euro political affiliation, seemingly based on a single issue: the desire to choose their sexual partner lightly, not use birth control, and then - and here is where I think of Indians, though a little unfairly - give birth and bash the babies head against a tree-trunk, just as an Indian warrior might to to an enemy's child.

    Perhaps, that is an unfair characterization and they are thinking of something else like rape. But IMO it is not a pleasing attitude in a potential mate.

    And there is violence against women on the rez sometimes.
     
    I wonder how much of it is alcohol.

    I was thinking recently about Roman attitudes toward beer (quite negative), and wondering if a lot of it was about alcohol tolerance clines, and they didn't realize it.

    Replies: @LatW

    Haven’t seen it.

    Actually, I would highly recommend (the movie is available in full on YT), you would like it because it is red pill. And it has a Montagnais medicine man character who is a midget – I’ve noticed that you have mentioned midgets a lot in your posts about movie characters, so you’d find this interesting. It’s a feisty character and a very unflattering portrayal of Indian religion and social life. So should be to your liking. 🙂

    As to the abortion part, I wasn’t defending the abortionists, but my point was more that the Indians used to be self-preserving and punished the women for it, they were not some egalitarian worshippers of Mother Earth. And women sometimes gave birth alone while walking in the mountains. I find that remarkable and admirable (although that was probably rare even for the Indians). As to young women and babies, most women’s instinct is to keep the child, and often there is a grandmother nearby who will help.

    • Thanks: songbird
  681. @Matra
    @LatW


    The movie was called Black Robe. I was quite mesmerized by it, seemed quite realistic. I’d have to rewatch it though to see if I would consider it “biased” today after what I’ve learned. Love those wild nature scenes
     
    In my first year at university I had to write a book review on The Jesuit Letters and Allied Documents which I assume was the source material for the novel Black Robe, written by Brian Moore, himself a non-believing Catholic from Northern Ireland. I rented the movie right after handing in my review aware that the movie was criticised for its "savage" portrayal of what Canadians now call First Nations. My conclusion after reading so many in-depth Jesuit letters about their New France experiences was that the filmmaker had actually gone easy on the Indians. There was also one fairly condescending scene in which a French settler, who rejects the faith and goes off with an Indian woman, mocks Christian beliefs in a way that I thought was so 20th century in tone & content that I assume the author or screenwriter was just inserting his opinion on Christianity rather than being based on any recorded words from an early settler.

    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made - mind you, not a lot of competition in that category.

    Replies: @LatW, @John Johnson

    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made – mind you, not a lot of competition in that category.

    But is it better than Strange Brew?

    • LOL: AP
  682. @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    Following from the previous thread:

    the massive bandstand at Mezhapark


    The bandstand has been completely redesigned and rebuilt now by Latvians (as have been many buildings, old and new). And looks much much better.
     
    LMAO. In Soviet architectural concepts of form, function and interaction in public spaces the whole idea of Mezhapark and the whole existence and rebuild of Mezhapark is TYPICALLY Soviet, classical Soviet you laughably stupid idiot!!!

    You have Baltic scum removing all great Russian/Soviet heritage that made these countries- the rebuilt Mezhapark is the complete opposite. Its like they got rid of a beautiful Red Army statue....and replaced it with a gold hammer and sickle monument !

    You do realise Peter the Great did not walk into Riga and see 20000 Latvians singing in a choir you dickhead? This particular type of contruction ( original or rebuilt) designed for this particular mass participation event is SPECIFICALLY soviet, typical Soviet nationalist you pathetic wakjob. How embarassing.

    I did write before:

    and the ethos of it ( travelling in Europe I haven’t seen a bandstand close to the size or style).
     
    That should have been enough to indicate to a dumb cretin like you that Mezhapark was a Soviet architecture of a typically soviet project.......and is now a soviet tribute structure in its redesign which was needed after 60 years. As I said there is no bandstands like this outside the USSR, certainly not in US or Europe.

    Difficult to know which set of scum are more schizophrenic - Ukronazis or Latvian earthworms.

    Replies: @LatW

    Mezhapark

    Mežaparks is a significant historic neighborhood with a rich architectural heritage that was already there before your filthy Soviet scum arrived. Near a lake that is folkloric in Latvian culture. Wooden architecture, mansions, etc. And still remains to this day an upscale neighborhood with many new rich private properties built by the current generations.

    That the bandstand was originally built is good (why, you expect to not build anything, just occupy? it has nothing to do with today’s RusFedians). And was completely remodeled recently.

    Return the fighter bombers to the Ukrainians that they themselves built but you took. You want to be petty? I can be petty all you like. And then some.

    all great Russian/Soviet heritage that made these countries

    The occupier symbols and statues should’ve been removed a long time ago – in fact, should not have been allowed to be built there in the first place. You do realize that even the boomer generation themselves moved on from this crap decades ago – not to mention the Gen X and our YOUNG who have nothing to do with this. And never will.

    You do realise Peter the Great did not walk into Riga and see 20000 Latvians singing

    Peter walked into that whole region, with violence as always, that was built up by Germans and Swedes (with the help of locals), with a law abiding and diligent Western Christian population – all of which he had absolutely nothing to do with. Everything had been rebuilt after the monster named Ivan Grozny had razed half of the population of those lands (literally) and bombed the castles and fortresses.

    You’re an old, uprooted (wow, old and uprooted in one, that’s messed up), Sovok boomer who drinks regularly with no manners. And you support the murder and maiming of young Ukrainian girls. This is how you are perceived along with 70% of the other bydlo in Russia who support this savagery. Why do you expect me to address you respectfully or kindly when you are unable to be that way yourself? You are sitting in the dust bin of history yet you don’t realize it yourself.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    Everything had been rebuilt after the monster named Ivan Grozny had razed half of the population of those lands (literally) and bombed the castles and fortresses.
     
    Nonsense you idiot. Anyway, Ivan Grozny was a kind, educated, successful and brilliant man. One of the greatest men in history.

    As Russia under him was achieving and showing great progress and enlightenment..........France was committing the Saint Bartholomew Day mass murder in the most evil way, Henry 8th was beheading his wives in the UK and the spanish were doing their Inquisition. The Germans, I assume , were doing something sadistic as usual.

    That the "law abiding and diligent Western Christian population" you were referring to you imbecile?

    Latvians at the time were trying to deduce if procreation was possible between man and inanimate objects

  683. @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    What are the greater odds?...rump Ukraine consisting only of former Habsburg ruled territory?
     
    This could still go in many unexpected directions...but more bloody it gets, more likely that there will be less of the 1991 Ukraine left.

    There were two options for the Ukies in the last generation:

    1. Ukraine with 40-50 million, the second largest state in Europe, rich in resources and trading in all directions (it is the centre), tolerant with the Russian speakers (around 40%), Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, all living in peace together. No stirring up of the WW2 Bandera crimes.

    Cost: maintain neutrality-no Nato, get paid for the Crimean bases, Russian language schools where people want it, take it easy and gradually live well. And possibly an end to the dream of "being in EU" (far-fetched anyway).

    2. Mono-ethnic Ukraine with the centuries deep Russian identity suppressed, Russia antagonized and trade cut-off. Nato invited in and Russians are kicked out of the crucial Crimea naval bases where they have been since the 18th century!

    Cost: Ukraine has shrunk to 25-30 million already and will be almost certainly much smaller. Nato has bailed on them and EU will keep promising and never deliver. And the destruction of the country.

    They will prevaricate, argue, live on dreams, wait for miracles, but the choice the Ukies made was tragic.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    I doubt Russia has the energy or desire to remake most of Ukraine. I expect they will place most of the country under ‘protective custody’ of some sort. The degree to which this is onerous will be based on how zealous the Ukrainian nationalists want to be combined with how much outside Western support and empowerment they receive. I imagine Russia hopes to slightly change the hearts and minds in the big cities expecting this attitude adjustment to gradually diffuse through the population.

    If Russia can rebalance her economy and then gradually re-integrate with parts of the Ukrainian economy the prosperity in both countries may not be much different from the EU after a decade. I wonder if they will start with a strong CIS agricultural union since that seems important and easy…except for the mine clearing 🙁

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC

    Your "ethics" are worse than those of the RusFedian occupying scum. If every American thought this way, and was unashamed to display that in public, the way you are, you'd be despised far and wide and most likely would no longer exist as a large country. Your dollar savings account would be toast.

    Who knows, maybe this is what you desire for normal Americans (most likely because you have a lousy personality).

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    , @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...Russia has the energy or desire to remake most of Ukraine. I expect they will place most of the country under ‘protective custody’
     
    It's going to be rough. Business will stay away, people will scatter, everyone will be angry at something - LatW is angry already. Regrets and looking for whose fault it was. This time nobody really wants to rebuild Ukraine, people are mobile, many more will leave.

    A possible scenario is a three-way split: Russian part in the east and along Black Sea, Western die-hards around Galicia, and the biggest in central Ukraine with Kiev. I don't think chunks will go to Poland or the others, it wouldn't be clean. EU and Nato will go quiet: there is no gain anymore so why bother? And it would cost a lot of money. Russia could surprise by offering a "brotherly" deal, Putin is a sentimental softie.

    Arestovich gave an interview blaming the West for its lack support. He started to create a new vague platform of Ukraine first! - "neither Nato, nor Russia, back to the multi-cultural Ukraine with Russians again equal"...it is the Yanuk's and Kuchma's Ukraine of the past. Something like that will re-emerge in the center. But it will be messy. Ukraine will never be what it could have been...but Nuland brought cookies, so it will be allright...

    Replies: @AP

  684. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    I doubt Russia has the energy or desire to remake most of Ukraine. I expect they will place most of the country under 'protective custody' of some sort. The degree to which this is onerous will be based on how zealous the Ukrainian nationalists want to be combined with how much outside Western support and empowerment they receive. I imagine Russia hopes to slightly change the hearts and minds in the big cities expecting this attitude adjustment to gradually diffuse through the population.

    If Russia can rebalance her economy and then gradually re-integrate with parts of the Ukrainian economy the prosperity in both countries may not be much different from the EU after a decade. I wonder if they will start with a strong CIS agricultural union since that seems important and easy...except for the mine clearing :(

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    Your “ethics” are worse than those of the RusFedian occupying scum. If every American thought this way, and was unashamed to display that in public, the way you are, you’d be despised far and wide and most likely would no longer exist as a large country. Your dollar savings account would be toast.

    Who knows, maybe this is what you desire for normal Americans (most likely because you have a lousy personality).

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @LatW

    You are angry, which means that you are not only wrong, but also desperate. It’s a good sign when inveterate Nazis are angry. Reminds one of May 1945.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @QCIC
    @LatW

    I am speculating on the Russian post-SMO policy. None of this is my plan and I wouldn't want to be involved in these government manipulations. I can recognize that such things happen and will continue to happen. This is part of my attempt to get you morons to see the error of your ways and help us all avoid World War Three. You think the Ukies are fighting the noble fight. I see nothing noble about it: just lies, stupidity and danger. You don't know me at all.

    Replies: @LatW

  685. @LatW
    @QCIC

    Your "ethics" are worse than those of the RusFedian occupying scum. If every American thought this way, and was unashamed to display that in public, the way you are, you'd be despised far and wide and most likely would no longer exist as a large country. Your dollar savings account would be toast.

    Who knows, maybe this is what you desire for normal Americans (most likely because you have a lousy personality).

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    You are angry, which means that you are not only wrong, but also desperate. It’s a good sign when inveterate Nazis are angry. Reminds one of May 1945.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @AnonfromTN

    There is nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents, wide scale destruction of the fruits of people's labor, of people's livelihoods, a country being violently partitioned is more than a legitimate source of righteous anger.


    Reminds one of May 1945.
     
    On the contrary - everything about the post-1945 will now be reorganized. Do not assume that yours will come on top in all instances.

    You're a retrograde boomer who sees "Nazis" under every bed.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234, @Beckow

  686. @songbird
    @LatW


    But don’t recall cannibalism.
     
    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:
    https://historyweblog.com/2017/06/tortures-of-the-algonquin-prisoners/

    some movie that showed European travelers being captured by Algonquin.
     
    I would say that America got a bit woke on Indians back in the '50s or earlier, when they were often depicted as noble innocents, with whites being the villains on some TV shows, like the Lone Ranger.

    Meanwhile Canada is super-woke on Indians, both feather and dot. They just sang O Canada! in Punjabi at an NHL game. Sher Singh might not have even known the words.

    Replies: @LatW, @Mr. Hack, @S

    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:

    Ever hear of St Clair’s defeat, also known as the Battle of the Wabash, which took place on November 4, 1791? It was far worse than Custer’s Last Stand.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair%27s_defeat

    One quarter of the entire US army was destroyed in a single day by the Northwestern Confederacy of Indian tribes. For days afterwards the Indian tribes were said to be operating ‘execution fires’, ie the burning alive of wounded. Sixty years after the battle the local townspeople organized a ‘Bone Burying Day’ to inter the last of the unburied remains on the battlefield.

    ‘The casualty rate was the highest percentage ever suffered by a United States Army unit and included St. Clair’s second in command, Richard Butler…Sixty years after the battle, in September 1851, the town organized Bone Burying Day to inter the remains of bones discovered at that location.’

    ‘The casualty rate was the highest percentage ever suffered by a United States Army unit and included St. Clair’s second in command, Richard Butler. Of the 52 officers engaged, 39 were killed and 7 wounded; around 88% of all officers had become casualties. The American casualty rate among the soldiers was 97 percent, including 632 of 920 killed (69%) and 264 wounded. Nearly all of the 200 camp followers were slaughtered, for a total of 832 Americans killed. Due to its relatively small size at the time, approximately one-quarter of the entire U.S. Army had been destroyed in one day. Only 24 of the 920 officers and men engaged came out of it unscathed. The survivors included Benjamin Van Cleve and his uncle Robert Benham; Van Cleve was one of the few who were unharmed. Native casualties were about 61, with at least 21 killed.’

    ‘So many people died on site that when 300 soldiers from the Legion of the United States returned to the site in late 1793, they identified the site by the unburied human remains. The detachment had to move bones to make space for their beds. The Legion buried remains in a mass grave. Sixty years after the battle, in September 1851, the town organized Bone Burying Day to inter the remains of bones discovered at that location. Historian William Hogeland calls the Native American victory “the high-water mark in resistance to white expansion. No comparable Indian victory would follow.”‘

    • Replies: @songbird
    @S

    Yes, I wonder if it was another case where the Indians had better guns. IIRC, that was the case with Custer's Last Stand

    Replies: @S

  687. Russian gold reserves in Europe – are they going to be used for Ukraine? This is going to hit the ruble.

    This will be a challenge to the Western sacrosanct value of private assets – the formulation to justify this needs to be unique and highly elaborate and convincing. This will be a “transfer of assets” with the goal of stopping aggression. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development can act as a mediator to legitimize the process of transfer. Basically, this means taking the Russian gold as a deterrent against further aggression.

    If this plan goes through, it will be a huge signal to the whole world that Ukraine will not be left without resources.

    RusFed is having to raise rates again. They’re fighting hard to sterilize the ruble and prop it up. Nevertheless the dollar value is still creeping up. Less and less foreign currency flowing into RusFed.

    In Russian grocery stores, you are now given the option to purchase separate eggs, by piece, e.g., you can buy one or two eggs (if you can’t afford the whole package). The military payouts are contributing to inflation. More and more of the families of the wounded are being paid while printing rubles.

    Warren Buffet’s son has invested half a billion in Ukraine (mostly in agriculture). Imagine, a large war is raging in the country, yet he still invested.

    Although my preference would’ve been giving shares in assets that are still owned by the Ukrainian state to those who are doing the actual fighting. This would make the future development slower, but it would be just.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    Wow shit-for-brains, you have excelled yourself with this. Just to summarise 2023 economic performances:

    Estonia ...recession
    Latvia.....recession
    Lithuania.....recession

    Now for the countries that aren't irrelevant losers/earthworms:

    UK.....very small growth
    Germany.......recession
    Finland.......recession
    Sweden......recession

    Russia.........good growth!!!! After a very moderate recession in 2022 when the worst from the west was applied against us.

    Well done retard.

    Some countries I would like to be doing badly aren't - like France, Canada or even the US, but we could at least get a moral victory in playing a role in making the US growth sufficiently low enough to make the current side lose the Presidential election

    The Ukraine /Banderastan is a great success though. I am not only permanently worried about the Blue and Yellow Down's syndrome flag being raised in Kazan very soon......I am so seduced by the economic performance of 404 and how well the politicians there run the country - I feel I have to apply for a ukronazi passport immediately!

    In addition. all the countries fully integrated into the russkiy mir have had excellent economic results mainly via a combination of ourselves, China and Turkey trading with them. The average diplomatic relations with Armenia under Pashinyan and the very bad diplomatic relations with the Gruzian pricks , doesn't change the very good economic relations in trade and our services that have made them have good years.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    And we're talking about 300 billion in American dollars, not chicken feed at all. Thank you Russian oligarchs! And you may thank Putler himself for this state of affairs.

  688. @AnonfromTN
    @LatW

    You are angry, which means that you are not only wrong, but also desperate. It’s a good sign when inveterate Nazis are angry. Reminds one of May 1945.

    Replies: @LatW

    There is nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents, wide scale destruction of the fruits of people’s labor, of people’s livelihoods, a country being violently partitioned is more than a legitimate source of righteous anger.

    Reminds one of May 1945.

    On the contrary – everything about the post-1945 will now be reorganized. Do not assume that yours will come on top in all instances.

    You’re a retrograde boomer who sees “Nazis” under every bed.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @LatW


    everything about the post-1945 will now be reorganized.
     
    FYI, post-1945 order (impotently sanctified in Helsinki declaration about inviolate post-war borders) is long dead: the breakup of Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and USSR, as well as unification of Germany blatantly violated it. Now the second rearrangement is coming, and your masters don’t like it: regardless who comes on top, the empire is losing its top position.

    My condolences to its first-, second-, and third-rate vassals.
    , @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    Tell your boyfriend, that prick Sudden Death , that when we are finished denazifying and demilitarising 404....I believe the reunification of the ancient Russian lands of Lithuania will be our next campaign.
    Lithuania isn't their name anyway - the new name or returned name of the state after we liberate will be Chyornarus, Black Russia.

    It's our land. Russian property. Belarus was always Belarus, Chyornarus was always Chyornarus. I will lobby the government to ensure Chyornarus does become what it says.............every Afghan,Somali, Eritrean, "persecuted" Chechen homo, OJ Simpson, Congan , Malawan, can come and seek refuge there, so that it does become a literal Black Russia.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @sudden death

    , @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents...country being violently partitioned is a legitimate source of righteous anger.
     
    Gaza? Donbas? Serbia? Iraq? Syria? You must be angry a lot...

    Judging wars only on moral grounds is a mistake. Morality is subjective as we see from your one-sided comments. Wars are too bloody and disruptive to hide in moral cliches.

    The only question is: what is the war fought over? Is it a reason to die and to destroy a country? All the other stuff is hot air, deceptions, lies, palliatives, posturing.

    People pretend to disagree that the war is about the attempted Nato expansion to Ukraine, it is too painful. All wars have multiple reasons, but the Nato expansion is the sine qua non - nobody in their right mind argues that there would be the war without it. As late as April 2022 the war could have been ended with Kiev agreeing to neutrality - as they agreed to in the Budapest memorandum.

    The sad reality is that thousands of Ukies are dying because Nato wanted to expand to Ukraine. So is it worth it?


    You’re a retrograde boomer who sees “Nazis” under every bed.
     
    There are many like that. But in Ukraine and Latvia the Nazis march in the streets, build monuments, re-write WW2 history, boast that they will do it again...as you do with your "post-1945 will now be reorganized". We will see how, but you may not like it either. There are also many who think that you got off too easily after WW2 - it was you who re-opened it. You may come to regret it.

    Replies: @LatW

  689. @LatW
    @QCIC

    Your "ethics" are worse than those of the RusFedian occupying scum. If every American thought this way, and was unashamed to display that in public, the way you are, you'd be despised far and wide and most likely would no longer exist as a large country. Your dollar savings account would be toast.

    Who knows, maybe this is what you desire for normal Americans (most likely because you have a lousy personality).

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @QCIC

    I am speculating on the Russian post-SMO policy. None of this is my plan and I wouldn’t want to be involved in these government manipulations. I can recognize that such things happen and will continue to happen. This is part of my attempt to get you morons to see the error of your ways and help us all avoid World War Three. You think the Ukies are fighting the noble fight. I see nothing noble about it: just lies, stupidity and danger. You don’t know me at all.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC


    I see nothing noble about it: just lies, stupidity and danger. You don’t know me at all.
     
    Of course, you don't see anything noble in defending one's land. I'm more than convinced you would barely be able to pick up a rifle to defend your own. Thus you don't fully understand what this even is.

    World War Three
     
    Four. The Cold War was the third one.

    I am speculating on the Russian post-SMO policy
     
    The "policy" in occupying lands is murder and torture. "Congratulations" on being someone who approves of that, especially on such a large scale.

    post-SMO policy
     
    I have news for you, the "SMO" may not end so soon for RusFed. They have decided to step on the warpath and will remain there forever, weakening themselves.

    They have been stupid and desperate enough to start offensive operations in winter. They will be barely able to move ahead (and that will come with great costs). The demilitarization will continue successfully.

    Replies: @QCIC

  690. @QCIC
    @LatW

    I am speculating on the Russian post-SMO policy. None of this is my plan and I wouldn't want to be involved in these government manipulations. I can recognize that such things happen and will continue to happen. This is part of my attempt to get you morons to see the error of your ways and help us all avoid World War Three. You think the Ukies are fighting the noble fight. I see nothing noble about it: just lies, stupidity and danger. You don't know me at all.

    Replies: @LatW

    I see nothing noble about it: just lies, stupidity and danger. You don’t know me at all.

    Of course, you don’t see anything noble in defending one’s land. I’m more than convinced you would barely be able to pick up a rifle to defend your own. Thus you don’t fully understand what this even is.

    World War Three

    Four. The Cold War was the third one.

    I am speculating on the Russian post-SMO policy

    The “policy” in occupying lands is murder and torture. “Congratulations” on being someone who approves of that, especially on such a large scale.

    post-SMO policy

    I have news for you, the “SMO” may not end so soon for RusFed. They have decided to step on the warpath and will remain there forever, weakening themselves.

    They have been stupid and desperate enough to start offensive operations in winter. They will be barely able to move ahead (and that will come with great costs). The demilitarization will continue successfully.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    Yes, that is why they were shelling their former neighbors in Donbass, defending their land. The Ukies got wrapped up in games of the empires and a vast number of people have died for their gullibility. Asshole cheerleaders like you egg them on to their deaths when they should have worked out a compromise. Instead they listen to the devil whispering in their ears. Go to hell.

    Replies: @LatW

  691. You can’t fight in here; this is the War Room.

  692. One of the small luxuries of America was the fact that restaurants used to give you free packages of ketchup.

    Never thought I’d see the day, but my local fish place no longer does this.

    Don’t know whether it is just inflation or the Greta-brigade, but the entire regime should be put on trial and exiled.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @S
    @songbird

    Yes, you know a restaurant is on it's very last legs when they start charging for the ketchup.

  693. @Beckow
    @Mikhail


    What are the greater odds?...rump Ukraine consisting only of former Habsburg ruled territory?
     
    This could still go in many unexpected directions...but more bloody it gets, more likely that there will be less of the 1991 Ukraine left.

    There were two options for the Ukies in the last generation:

    1. Ukraine with 40-50 million, the second largest state in Europe, rich in resources and trading in all directions (it is the centre), tolerant with the Russian speakers (around 40%), Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, all living in peace together. No stirring up of the WW2 Bandera crimes.

    Cost: maintain neutrality-no Nato, get paid for the Crimean bases, Russian language schools where people want it, take it easy and gradually live well. And possibly an end to the dream of "being in EU" (far-fetched anyway).

    2. Mono-ethnic Ukraine with the centuries deep Russian identity suppressed, Russia antagonized and trade cut-off. Nato invited in and Russians are kicked out of the crucial Crimea naval bases where they have been since the 18th century!

    Cost: Ukraine has shrunk to 25-30 million already and will be almost certainly much smaller. Nato has bailed on them and EU will keep promising and never deliver. And the destruction of the country.

    They will prevaricate, argue, live on dreams, wait for miracles, but the choice the Ukies made was tragic.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    They will prevaricate, argue, live on dreams, wait for miracles, but the choice the Ukies made was tragic.

    The undemocratic svido fringe and those that went with them, including Porky and the little delusional tyrant.

    As time passes more Ukes will blame the likes fat slob Bojo, US neocons/neolibs and Zelensky for the carnage

  694. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Wow, they are good friends.

    My squirrel faves are:

    Flying squirrels since flying is cool.

    Little red squirrels since they are mega-hyperactive and have a lot of personality.

    Honorable mention for chipmunks because they are cute and friendly, industrious and have racing stripes.

    I agree with the notion that the standard grey ones are sort of rats with fluffy tails. The black ones are devil squirrels.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @songbird, @Mikhail

    I had a cat that would take down squirrels and drop them in front of me as what’s believed by some to be a gift ritual. With their powerful jaws, squirrels can be deadly to a dog and cat.

  695. @S
    @songbird


    Not for the squeamish, but here is American historian Francis Parker quoting the Relation of 1642, involving what the Iroquois did to some Algonquins:
     
    Ever hear of St Clair's defeat, also known as the Battle of the Wabash, which took place on November 4, 1791? It was far worse than Custer's Last Stand.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair%27s_defeat

    One quarter of the entire US army was destroyed in a single day by the Northwestern Confederacy of Indian tribes. For days afterwards the Indian tribes were said to be operating 'execution fires', ie the burning alive of wounded. Sixty years after the battle the local townspeople organized a 'Bone Burying Day' to inter the last of the unburied remains on the battlefield.

    'The casualty rate was the highest percentage ever suffered by a United States Army unit and included St. Clair's second in command, Richard Butler...Sixty years after the battle, in September 1851, the town organized Bone Burying Day to inter the remains of bones discovered at that location.'


    'The casualty rate was the highest percentage ever suffered by a United States Army unit and included St. Clair's second in command, Richard Butler. Of the 52 officers engaged, 39 were killed and 7 wounded; around 88% of all officers had become casualties. The American casualty rate among the soldiers was 97 percent, including 632 of 920 killed (69%) and 264 wounded. Nearly all of the 200 camp followers were slaughtered, for a total of 832 Americans killed. Due to its relatively small size at the time, approximately one-quarter of the entire U.S. Army had been destroyed in one day. Only 24 of the 920 officers and men engaged came out of it unscathed. The survivors included Benjamin Van Cleve and his uncle Robert Benham; Van Cleve was one of the few who were unharmed. Native casualties were about 61, with at least 21 killed.'

    'So many people died on site that when 300 soldiers from the Legion of the United States returned to the site in late 1793, they identified the site by the unburied human remains. The detachment had to move bones to make space for their beds. The Legion buried remains in a mass grave. Sixty years after the battle, in September 1851, the town organized Bone Burying Day to inter the remains of bones discovered at that location. Historian William Hogeland calls the Native American victory "the high-water mark in resistance to white expansion. No comparable Indian victory would follow."'
     

    Replies: @songbird

    Yes, I wonder if it was another case where the Indians had better guns. IIRC, that was the case with Custer’s Last Stand

    • Replies: @S
    @songbird

    I think the Indians got the drop on the US forces...ie surprise. Also the troops seem to have been poorly led and demoralized. What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @songbird

  696. • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    New Troops for the Meat Grinder
     
    As there are no volunteers for many months now, Kiev regime is forcibly “recruiting” men for the meat grinder. With humongous losses at the front, regime recruiting commissars snatch their victims more and more aggressively. Recent scandal erupted when the footage of kidnapping yet another “recruit” in Odessa by Ukrainian conscription commissars using an ambulance appeared on the web. The story itself had happy ending: man’s wife fought off kidnappers and freed her husband. But the ambulance used was donated to Ukies by UUF and, according to Western useful idiots, was meant to be used on the front lines. UUF issued an aggrieved statement, but the scandal keeps rolling.

    More on this:
    https://www.txtreport.com/news/2023-12-22-%22military-commissars-%22squeezed%22-the-front-line-ambulance-%22--the-scandal-in-odesa-with-the-tough-mobilization-of-a-man-is-gaining-momentum.B1QdHs-QDp.html
  697. @LatW
    @QCIC


    I see nothing noble about it: just lies, stupidity and danger. You don’t know me at all.
     
    Of course, you don't see anything noble in defending one's land. I'm more than convinced you would barely be able to pick up a rifle to defend your own. Thus you don't fully understand what this even is.

    World War Three
     
    Four. The Cold War was the third one.

    I am speculating on the Russian post-SMO policy
     
    The "policy" in occupying lands is murder and torture. "Congratulations" on being someone who approves of that, especially on such a large scale.

    post-SMO policy
     
    I have news for you, the "SMO" may not end so soon for RusFed. They have decided to step on the warpath and will remain there forever, weakening themselves.

    They have been stupid and desperate enough to start offensive operations in winter. They will be barely able to move ahead (and that will come with great costs). The demilitarization will continue successfully.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Yes, that is why they were shelling their former neighbors in Donbass, defending their land. The Ukies got wrapped up in games of the empires and a vast number of people have died for their gullibility. Asshole cheerleaders like you egg them on to their deaths when they should have worked out a compromise. Instead they listen to the devil whispering in their ears. Go to hell.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @QCIC


    their former neighbors in Donbass
     
    There was a significant Ukrainian population in Donbas that was expelled. They are not neighbors, it is their land.

    cheerleaders like you
     
    They don't need cheerleaders, they just need ammo. A large part of them don't need to be urged to fight for their country, you're unable to grasp this (unable to relate to this conceptually).

    Replies: @QCIC

  698. @QCIC
    @LatW

    Yes, that is why they were shelling their former neighbors in Donbass, defending their land. The Ukies got wrapped up in games of the empires and a vast number of people have died for their gullibility. Asshole cheerleaders like you egg them on to their deaths when they should have worked out a compromise. Instead they listen to the devil whispering in their ears. Go to hell.

    Replies: @LatW

    their former neighbors in Donbass

    There was a significant Ukrainian population in Donbas that was expelled. They are not neighbors, it is their land.

    cheerleaders like you

    They don’t need cheerleaders, they just need ammo. A large part of them don’t need to be urged to fight for their country, you’re unable to grasp this (unable to relate to this conceptually).

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @LatW

    Don't be retarded. I can easily relate to this conceptually. I am simply telling you that you are too stupid to see the full context for this mess. There is a small chance the Ukies could have eventually gained what they dream of, if they had been wise enough to work with Russia and not the West. There is no chance of achieving their goals by working with the West. I understand that making a cooperation with Russia work to their liking is extremely difficult because of crooks on all sides and therefore uninspiring to many people. What they chose is worse and predictably has gotten a great many people killed. This is not about Ukraine it is about the West using Ukraine to hurt Russia. The Ukies have built a shared delusion which fits their dreams. This pattern is not uncommon, it happens to the best of us. They should be ashamed because it has gotten so many of their brothers killed. This sell out of their slavic connections could never achieve what you think they are fighting for. Their loss is not bad luck, it is due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what is going on.

    There is no honor or glory in being duped into killing your friends and neighbors to benefit a third party who doesn't give a shit about any of you. Even if it works out in your favor it is evil and immoral. In this case there is no chance of it working so it is even worse. I don't know of an English word that captures how badly the Ukies have fucked this up. They lusted for control and settling of old scores and were gullible and easily manipulated.

  699. @LatW
    @QCIC


    their former neighbors in Donbass
     
    There was a significant Ukrainian population in Donbas that was expelled. They are not neighbors, it is their land.

    cheerleaders like you
     
    They don't need cheerleaders, they just need ammo. A large part of them don't need to be urged to fight for their country, you're unable to grasp this (unable to relate to this conceptually).

    Replies: @QCIC

    Don’t be retarded. I can easily relate to this conceptually. I am simply telling you that you are too stupid to see the full context for this mess. There is a small chance the Ukies could have eventually gained what they dream of, if they had been wise enough to work with Russia and not the West. There is no chance of achieving their goals by working with the West. I understand that making a cooperation with Russia work to their liking is extremely difficult because of crooks on all sides and therefore uninspiring to many people. What they chose is worse and predictably has gotten a great many people killed. This is not about Ukraine it is about the West using Ukraine to hurt Russia. The Ukies have built a shared delusion which fits their dreams. This pattern is not uncommon, it happens to the best of us. They should be ashamed because it has gotten so many of their brothers killed. This sell out of their slavic connections could never achieve what you think they are fighting for. Their loss is not bad luck, it is due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what is going on.

    There is no honor or glory in being duped into killing your friends and neighbors to benefit a third party who doesn’t give a shit about any of you. Even if it works out in your favor it is evil and immoral. In this case there is no chance of it working so it is even worse. I don’t know of an English word that captures how badly the Ukies have fucked this up. They lusted for control and settling of old scores and were gullible and easily manipulated.

  700. I’ve generally found Meloni-chan to be much worse on policy than Salvini, but if she manages to make this law I might actually begin to respect her a bit.

    Adopted in November 1923, Mussolini’s notorious Acerbo Law established that the party winning the largest share of the vote — even if only 25 percent — would get two-thirds of the seats in parliament. And after his party won the subsequent election — although intimidation and violence proved more important there than tampering with electoral law — the road to dictatorship was paved.

    Meloni’s current proposal now echoes this Acerbo Law, as the Italian leader wants to automatically give the party with the highest percentage of votes a 55 percent share of the seats in parliament. In other words, as long as one party receives more votes than any other — even if that were, say, 20 percent of the national vote — it will be rewarded with outright parliamentary control.

    [..]

    In essence, this proposal would treat the whole of Italy like a single constituency in a first-past-the-post election, with the party winning a relative majority, however small, claiming safe control of parliament. It would be an extreme form of winner-takes-all, with massive disproportionality built in.

    And that’s not all. The proposal also requires each party to nominate a candidate for prime minister before the election, and the winning party’s candidate would automatically become prime minister — considered to be directly elected by the people.

    The prime minister would rule supreme.

    […]

    Meloni’s plan would thus combine the legitimacy and power of direct presidential elections (“The people voted for me!”) with the weak division of powers of a parliamentary system. It would see her command the executive as a directly elected prime minister, as well as the parliament through its 55 percent representation.

    It is also greatly concerning that Meloni and her party tried to do this by stealth. The government’s press release announcing the plan called it a “minimalist” approach — it is anything but.

    When it comes to constitutional changes, quality bears no relation to quantity. And although the reform only amends two articles of the constitution, it completely alters the power relations of the Italian republic.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/melonis-dangerous-constitutional-change-in-italy/

    https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/comunicato-stampa-del-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-57/24163

  701. @songbird
    One of the small luxuries of America was the fact that restaurants used to give you free packages of ketchup.

    Never thought I'd see the day, but my local fish place no longer does this.

    Don't know whether it is just inflation or the Greta-brigade, but the entire regime should be put on trial and exiled.

    Replies: @S

    Yes, you know a restaurant is on it’s very last legs when they start charging for the ketchup.

  702. @songbird
    @S

    Yes, I wonder if it was another case where the Indians had better guns. IIRC, that was the case with Custer's Last Stand

    Replies: @S

    I think the Indians got the drop on the US forces…ie surprise. Also the troops seem to have been poorly led and demoralized. What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @S

    There was an unusual degree of unity among Indian tribes, but it didn't last. One lasting consequence of the defeat was a re-organisation and upgrading of the US Army. The Indians received most of their weapons from the British, often obtained from trading posts in Ontario.

    , @songbird
    @S


    What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.
     
    Well, I think the Great Plains period of the American Indian Wars seems to have been more heavily romanticized.

    Whether that is down to its features (open skies and horseback) or more related to chronology (simultaneously promoted in theater and open air stage shows in major industrialized cities), who can say.

    Probably doesn't hurt that a lot more people today identify as Sioux than Shawnee.

    Replies: @S

  703. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    LOL. No-you were caught fantasising about me living in the worst and most post-industrial park of England
     
    Our former host wrote here that he found you posting from an industrial part of England (he wasn't specific about which one so as not to doxx you).

    So you moved to the worst part of England, where you post from. Your English has become okay, but you make mistakes with your Russian, which apparently you have partially forgotten as you've settled into your new life as a low-skilled immigrant in England.

    Quite a lot of crying because I visit Moscow, Russia's best city, more than you do. I won't count the paragraphs this time.

    And, as a Soviet civil "engineer", you've still failed to understand why median is a better measure than mean when counting people.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    Our former host wrote here that he found you posting from an industrial part of England (he wasn’t specific about which one so as not to doxx you).

    So you moved to the worst part of England, where you post from. Your English has become okay, but you make mistakes with your Russian, which apparently you have partially forgotten as you’ve settled into your new life as a low-skilled immigrant in England.

    LMAO!!! So you, as a non-life fantasist have no option but to lie and then lie again…….then lie even more just to make it so obvious that you are lying and projecting what you wish to be true ( and adding Britain to the list of places you know nothing about, outside of your Jabba the Hut non-life lifestyle.

    As you know. None of what you are saying is true ( neither does it matter anyway , but it just shows how tedious nonsense is the only tactic for filth like you) . Either you are lying by yourself or Karlin would have mislead you as I was having severe disagreement with him at the time and he had some PMS…….and attention-whores like you are probably having private correspondence with him before begging to ban me and do a stunt like that. But all ended fine with him and I wish him well. Different to you, he is sane and can speak Russian

    There is nothing threatening for me to be “doxx” or can I be anyway due to the connection I use, you though would without doubt commit suicide out of shame for the family if you were ( and lol do you act like that is the circumstance)

    Anyway, now repeat after me the glorious and typical slavic name of Cherkassy!!

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234

    Cry more about having been caught living in an English rust belt wasteland. You’ve mentioned specifically English things enough to confirm that this is where you are.

  704. @LatW
    Russian gold reserves in Europe - are they going to be used for Ukraine? This is going to hit the ruble.

    This will be a challenge to the Western sacrosanct value of private assets - the formulation to justify this needs to be unique and highly elaborate and convincing. This will be a "transfer of assets" with the goal of stopping aggression. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development can act as a mediator to legitimize the process of transfer. Basically, this means taking the Russian gold as a deterrent against further aggression.

    If this plan goes through, it will be a huge signal to the whole world that Ukraine will not be left without resources.

    RusFed is having to raise rates again. They're fighting hard to sterilize the ruble and prop it up. Nevertheless the dollar value is still creeping up. Less and less foreign currency flowing into RusFed.

    In Russian grocery stores, you are now given the option to purchase separate eggs, by piece, e.g., you can buy one or two eggs (if you can't afford the whole package). The military payouts are contributing to inflation. More and more of the families of the wounded are being paid while printing rubles.

    Warren Buffet's son has invested half a billion in Ukraine (mostly in agriculture). Imagine, a large war is raging in the country, yet he still invested.

    Although my preference would've been giving shares in assets that are still owned by the Ukrainian state to those who are doing the actual fighting. This would make the future development slower, but it would be just.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. Hack

    Wow shit-for-brains, you have excelled yourself with this. Just to summarise 2023 economic performances:

    Estonia …recession
    Latvia…..recession
    Lithuania…..recession

    Now for the countries that aren’t irrelevant losers/earthworms:

    UK…..very small growth
    Germany…….recession
    Finland…….recession
    Sweden……recession

    Russia………good growth!!!! After a very moderate recession in 2022 when the worst from the west was applied against us.

    Well done retard.

    Some countries I would like to be doing badly aren’t – like France, Canada or even the US, but we could at least get a moral victory in playing a role in making the US growth sufficiently low enough to make the current side lose the Presidential election

    The Ukraine /Banderastan is a great success though. I am not only permanently worried about the Blue and Yellow Down’s syndrome flag being raised in Kazan very soon……I am so seduced by the economic performance of 404 and how well the politicians there run the country – I feel I have to apply for a ukronazi passport immediately!

    In addition. all the countries fully integrated into the russkiy mir have had excellent economic results mainly via a combination of ourselves, China and Turkey trading with them. The average diplomatic relations with Armenia under Pashinyan and the very bad diplomatic relations with the Gruzian pricks , doesn’t change the very good economic relations in trade and our services that have made them have good years.

  705. @LatW
    @Gerard1234


    Mezhapark
     
    Mežaparks is a significant historic neighborhood with a rich architectural heritage that was already there before your filthy Soviet scum arrived. Near a lake that is folkloric in Latvian culture. Wooden architecture, mansions, etc. And still remains to this day an upscale neighborhood with many new rich private properties built by the current generations.

    That the bandstand was originally built is good (why, you expect to not build anything, just occupy? it has nothing to do with today's RusFedians). And was completely remodeled recently.

    Return the fighter bombers to the Ukrainians that they themselves built but you took. You want to be petty? I can be petty all you like. And then some.


    all great Russian/Soviet heritage that made these countries
     
    The occupier symbols and statues should've been removed a long time ago - in fact, should not have been allowed to be built there in the first place. You do realize that even the boomer generation themselves moved on from this crap decades ago - not to mention the Gen X and our YOUNG who have nothing to do with this. And never will.

    You do realise Peter the Great did not walk into Riga and see 20000 Latvians singing
     
    Peter walked into that whole region, with violence as always, that was built up by Germans and Swedes (with the help of locals), with a law abiding and diligent Western Christian population - all of which he had absolutely nothing to do with. Everything had been rebuilt after the monster named Ivan Grozny had razed half of the population of those lands (literally) and bombed the castles and fortresses.

    You're an old, uprooted (wow, old and uprooted in one, that's messed up), Sovok boomer who drinks regularly with no manners. And you support the murder and maiming of young Ukrainian girls. This is how you are perceived along with 70% of the other bydlo in Russia who support this savagery. Why do you expect me to address you respectfully or kindly when you are unable to be that way yourself? You are sitting in the dust bin of history yet you don't realize it yourself.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Everything had been rebuilt after the monster named Ivan Grozny had razed half of the population of those lands (literally) and bombed the castles and fortresses.

    Nonsense you idiot. Anyway, Ivan Grozny was a kind, educated, successful and brilliant man. One of the greatest men in history.

    As Russia under him was achieving and showing great progress and enlightenment……….France was committing the Saint Bartholomew Day mass murder in the most evil way, Henry 8th was beheading his wives in the UK and the spanish were doing their Inquisition. The Germans, I assume , were doing something sadistic as usual.

    That the “law abiding and diligent Western Christian population” you were referring to you imbecile?

    Latvians at the time were trying to deduce if procreation was possible between man and inanimate objects

  706. @QCIC
    @Sean

    Washington probably wants enough of a Russian military defeat in Ukraine such that pro-RusFed factions in Russia are discredited allowing Atlanticist factions to be boosted. They want enough of a victory that allows similar anti-Russia projects in Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, Kaliningrad, Kazakhstan and DPRK to be accelerated. They want enough of a Russian economic defeat that her military will not be able to rebuild conventional forces. As part of all this they eventually want to pressure Russia to make nuclear weapons concessions of some sort.

    The result on all of these goals seems to be disastrous failure.

    Replies: @Sean

    Washington probably wants enough of a Russian military defeat in Ukraine so that pro-RusFed factions in Russia are discredited allowing Atlanticist factions to be boosted. [….] They want enough of a Russian economic defeat that her military will not be able to rebuild conventional forces

    Not clear how such a defeat could possibly occur as Russia ccould always stubbornly keep fighting.

  707. Masha Gessen makes sense:

    Fiona Hill’s nonsense:

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/12/21/exp-amanpour-fiona-hill-intw-122101pseg2-cnni-world.cnn

    Hill absurdly speaks of a proxy war against the US, when it’s neocon/neolib foreign policy influenced America which is fighting a proxy war against Russia on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. My last two articles of December 12 and October 22 concern this very matter.

    On Hill’s bringing up the issue of a diminished US foreign policy influence, neolib Zbigniew Brzezinski said that the US’ global influence will see a decline in the coming years, while nevertheless remaining a world power (Brzezinski is wrong in foreseeing a weakened Russia, crawling to the West out of desperation.) Foolhardy advocacy like the parasitic proxy war against Russia serves to further enhance an American decline on the world stage. After the Soviet demise, Russia very much wanted to cooperate with the collective West on a reasoned basis.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Mikhail


    Masha Gessen makes sense:
     
    Such a lame interview, why did you post this?

    In any case, I always find hilarious this quote from a letter Hannah Arendt wrote to Karl Jaspers regarding her observations when reporting on the Eichmann Trial:

    On top, the judges, the best of German Jewry. Below them, the prosecuting attorneys, Galicians, but still Europeans. Everything is organized by a police force that gives me the creeps, speaks only Hebrew, and looks Arabic...
    they would obey any order. And outside the doors, the oriental mob, as if one were in Istanbul or some other half-Asiatic country.
    In addition, and very visible in Jerusalem, the peies and caftan Jews, who make life impossible for all the reasonable people here.”
     
    It's up there with Kissinger's "I weren't Jewish I would be anti-Semitic.'

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Wielgus, @QCIC

  708. @LatW
    Russian gold reserves in Europe - are they going to be used for Ukraine? This is going to hit the ruble.

    This will be a challenge to the Western sacrosanct value of private assets - the formulation to justify this needs to be unique and highly elaborate and convincing. This will be a "transfer of assets" with the goal of stopping aggression. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development can act as a mediator to legitimize the process of transfer. Basically, this means taking the Russian gold as a deterrent against further aggression.

    If this plan goes through, it will be a huge signal to the whole world that Ukraine will not be left without resources.

    RusFed is having to raise rates again. They're fighting hard to sterilize the ruble and prop it up. Nevertheless the dollar value is still creeping up. Less and less foreign currency flowing into RusFed.

    In Russian grocery stores, you are now given the option to purchase separate eggs, by piece, e.g., you can buy one or two eggs (if you can't afford the whole package). The military payouts are contributing to inflation. More and more of the families of the wounded are being paid while printing rubles.

    Warren Buffet's son has invested half a billion in Ukraine (mostly in agriculture). Imagine, a large war is raging in the country, yet he still invested.

    Although my preference would've been giving shares in assets that are still owned by the Ukrainian state to those who are doing the actual fighting. This would make the future development slower, but it would be just.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. Hack

    And we’re talking about 300 billion in American dollars, not chicken feed at all. Thank you Russian oligarchs! And you may thank Putler himself for this state of affairs.

  709. @Mikhail
    Masha Gessen makes sense:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU6kP9UqhGI

    Fiona Hill's nonsense:

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/12/21/exp-amanpour-fiona-hill-intw-122101pseg2-cnni-world.cnn

    Hill absurdly speaks of a proxy war against the US, when it's neocon/neolib foreign policy influenced America which is fighting a proxy war against Russia on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. My last two articles of December 12 and October 22 concern this very matter.

    On Hill's bringing up the issue of a diminished US foreign policy influence, neolib Zbigniew Brzezinski said that the US' global influence will see a decline in the coming years, while nevertheless remaining a world power (Brzezinski is wrong in foreseeing a weakened Russia, crawling to the West out of desperation.) Foolhardy advocacy like the parasitic proxy war against Russia serves to further enhance an American decline on the world stage. After the Soviet demise, Russia very much wanted to cooperate with the collective West on a reasoned basis.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    Masha Gessen makes sense:

    Such a lame interview, why did you post this?

    In any case, I always find hilarious this quote from a letter Hannah Arendt wrote to Karl Jaspers regarding her observations when reporting on the Eichmann Trial:

    On top, the judges, the best of German Jewry. Below them, the prosecuting attorneys, Galicians, but still Europeans. Everything is organized by a police force that gives me the creeps, speaks only Hebrew, and looks Arabic…
    they would obey any order. And outside the doors, the oriental mob, as if one were in Istanbul or some other half-Asiatic country.
    In addition, and very visible in Jerusalem, the peies and caftan Jews, who make life impossible for all the reasonable people here.”

    It’s up there with Kissinger’s “I weren’t Jewish I would be anti-Semitic.’

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean

    It looks like a comical German nationalism/racism and bad tourism, instead of interest about learning about countries in the Middle East she measures the Middle Eastern people in terms of their distance from Heidelberg University or knowledge of Goethe.

    It's like if I visit New York and say the Russians are the best people there, then Poles because they speak similar to Russian although some kind of lower quality than Russian. Afterall their language sounds strange, so they must be lower quality than Russians. But the Italians in New York are more creepy than the Poles because they are more different from me. And outside the doors are Mexicans - it's very mysterious, almost feeling like I am visiting a "half-American country", not the opera in Saint-Petersburg.

    In the 19th century, German society has a feeling of inferiority and believes it is behind Europe. This is at the same time, the German culture was productive and original. When the German culture was being creative, they believed they were inferior.

    In Pushkin's time and the letters, they writing how Russia is an undeveloped zone and often sceptical it could become civilized or European country. This is at the time, when the Russian classics are written, they believe they are in the most inferior culture. But when the Russian classics are beginning to be called Russian classics, this is when people are not able to write classics anymore.

    By the middle of the 20th century, Germans like Heidegger/Arendt are maybe near the end for German culture, while even more they are jingoists who believe Germany is the center of culture and civilization. Which is perhaps the intellectuals' claims about superiority of their culture are becoming more aggressive were symptom of the "falling of the dusk" for their culture.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    , @Wielgus
    @Hyperborean

    Arendt was adapting and extending a fairly longstanding prejudice of educated, partly assimilated Jews, especially in Western and Central Europe. The throwaway reference to "Galicians but still Europeans" is an alteration of earlier prejudices against Ostjuden. She grudgingly decided they were at least Europeans. For comparison, Kafka's father had been irritated when his son assisted a Jewish theatre troupe from Russian Poland that was visiting Prague. Arendt has moved on from that to being contemptuous of what I suspect were Sephardic or Oriental Jews, and also of ultra-pious Hasidim. The "oriental mob" may have been a reference to Israeli Arabs.

    , @QCIC
    @Hyperborean

    Thanks for the warning. Amanpour, Gessen and Fiona Hill, now that's a creep show!

  710. @Hyperborean
    @Mikhail


    Masha Gessen makes sense:
     
    Such a lame interview, why did you post this?

    In any case, I always find hilarious this quote from a letter Hannah Arendt wrote to Karl Jaspers regarding her observations when reporting on the Eichmann Trial:

    On top, the judges, the best of German Jewry. Below them, the prosecuting attorneys, Galicians, but still Europeans. Everything is organized by a police force that gives me the creeps, speaks only Hebrew, and looks Arabic...
    they would obey any order. And outside the doors, the oriental mob, as if one were in Istanbul or some other half-Asiatic country.
    In addition, and very visible in Jerusalem, the peies and caftan Jews, who make life impossible for all the reasonable people here.”
     
    It's up there with Kissinger's "I weren't Jewish I would be anti-Semitic.'

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Wielgus, @QCIC

    It looks like a comical German nationalism/racism and bad tourism, instead of interest about learning about countries in the Middle East she measures the Middle Eastern people in terms of their distance from Heidelberg University or knowledge of Goethe.

    It’s like if I visit New York and say the Russians are the best people there, then Poles because they speak similar to Russian although some kind of lower quality than Russian. Afterall their language sounds strange, so they must be lower quality than Russians. But the Italians in New York are more creepy than the Poles because they are more different from me. And outside the doors are Mexicans – it’s very mysterious, almost feeling like I am visiting a “half-American country”, not the opera in Saint-Petersburg.

    In the 19th century, German society has a feeling of inferiority and believes it is behind Europe. This is at the same time, the German culture was productive and original. When the German culture was being creative, they believed they were inferior.

    In Pushkin’s time and the letters, they writing how Russia is an undeveloped zone and often sceptical it could become civilized or European country. This is at the time, when the Russian classics are written, they believe they are in the most inferior culture. But when the Russian classics are beginning to be called Russian classics, this is when people are not able to write classics anymore.

    By the middle of the 20th century, Germans like Heidegger/Arendt are maybe near the end for German culture, while even more they are jingoists who believe Germany is the center of culture and civilization. Which is perhaps the intellectuals’ claims about superiority of their culture are becoming more aggressive were symptom of the “falling of the dusk” for their culture.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    It looks like a comical German nationalism/racism and bad tourism, instead of interest about learning about countries in the Middle East she measures the Middle Eastern people in terms of their distance from Heidelberg University or knowledge of Goethe.

    It’s like if I visit New York and say the Russians are the best people there, then Poles because they speak similar to Russian although some kind of lower quality than Russian. Afterall their language sounds strange, so they must be lower quality than Russians. But the Italians in New York are more creepy than the Poles because they are more different from me. And outside the doors are Mexicans – it’s very mysterious, almost feeling like I am visiting a “half-American country”, not the opera in Saint-Petersburg.
     
    But it isn't exactly the same, because there's an expected emotional connection. If a North American or European visits Morocco or Lebanon and dislikes it for its Middle Easternness that's one thing. But if the sentiment is that Western Jews should hold affinity towards Israel because it is a bit of the West implanted in the East (but with Jews instead of Gentiles) then it isn't unreasonable to expect it to feel European — particularly since this impression is from the early years of Israel before a lot of the significant demographic changes took place.

    But aside from the traditional feeling of superiority of German Jewry contra their eastern counterparts there's this common thread of many German émigrés at the time, despite their liberal and leftist allegiances, feeling alienated in exile.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  711. @Hyperborean
    @Mikhail


    Masha Gessen makes sense:
     
    Such a lame interview, why did you post this?

    In any case, I always find hilarious this quote from a letter Hannah Arendt wrote to Karl Jaspers regarding her observations when reporting on the Eichmann Trial:

    On top, the judges, the best of German Jewry. Below them, the prosecuting attorneys, Galicians, but still Europeans. Everything is organized by a police force that gives me the creeps, speaks only Hebrew, and looks Arabic...
    they would obey any order. And outside the doors, the oriental mob, as if one were in Istanbul or some other half-Asiatic country.
    In addition, and very visible in Jerusalem, the peies and caftan Jews, who make life impossible for all the reasonable people here.”
     
    It's up there with Kissinger's "I weren't Jewish I would be anti-Semitic.'

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Wielgus, @QCIC

    Arendt was adapting and extending a fairly longstanding prejudice of educated, partly assimilated Jews, especially in Western and Central Europe. The throwaway reference to “Galicians but still Europeans” is an alteration of earlier prejudices against Ostjuden. She grudgingly decided they were at least Europeans. For comparison, Kafka’s father had been irritated when his son assisted a Jewish theatre troupe from Russian Poland that was visiting Prague. Arendt has moved on from that to being contemptuous of what I suspect were Sephardic or Oriental Jews, and also of ultra-pious Hasidim. The “oriental mob” may have been a reference to Israeli Arabs.

  712. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    Well it’s an interesting topic.

    You said you need 10,000 CDs.
     
    Obviously, the 10,000 figure was just a metaphor for a whole library of many CD's, not to be taken literally, as you've proven with your math work. Let's say that I want to listen to some Debussy music, perhaps something brand new or even something familiar for that matter. I can go to Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD's including his music that I don't need to go out and buy. Quite a deal. I have a personal library of about 600 books, which is more than enough (I haven't even read them all yet), but it's nice to know that there are libraries, book stores, and even online libraries where I can access other books if the need arises (and it does occasionally).

    Anyway, I'm busy getting ready to go to work and will get back to you on some of your other questions later. I agree with you "it's interesting topic".

    Replies: @Dmitry

    You can use Spotify free, just with commercials. So you can test it and connect it to your Technics hi fi.

    But looking at the wider view, the introduction of streaming is at the same time as reduction of interest in music and probably will not reverse the trend of the current society.

    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don’t exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.

    While in 1960s America, working class people might only buy 12 albums each year, the society were more music connoisseurs on average and the music industries were more musically productive than today.

    What are possible reasons?

    Maybe one reason is because the problem of today is not the quantity of music, but quality of our attention. While streaming is increasing quantity of music in our “cupboard”, it’s possible the streaming format is also reducing quality of attention.

    Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD’s including his music that I don’t need to go out and buy.

    One of the reverse trends against streaming is the return to vinyl, which requires not only difficulty buying in terms of cost, also in terms of difficulty to even find a place where it’s possible to buy the music you had wanted to buy.

    If you compare with streaming, even those large collectors of vinyl are very limited access in terms of quantity of music. They don’t have “access hundreds” of albums instantly, but would maybe require weeks or months to find the music they want.

    But if we assume the problem is not quantity of music, but quality of attention. Then, the return to vinyl is making sense. Afterall it forces higher attention, as you cannot change albums easily and also their higher costs to buy mean you often have to re-listen.

    You also couldn’t easily speak like some of these vinyl fans on YouTube about streaming albums. Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Dmitry

    One cool development is the expanded new production of all-analog vinyl. Analog master tapes and analog all the way to your mind. Someday I will finish my essay explaining why the value of this may be real and not just technological nostalgia.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don’t exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.
     
    This may be true, but for many, I would think that streaming opens up a huge door of opportunity to experiment and listen to many forms of music and artists that they may never even listen to. We already know that many young people don't read books for entertainment, and now you're suggesting that many also don't really expand their interests in music beyond the everyday hum drum. Heck, whenever I occasionally breach the topic of older films at work with those younger than myself, they don't enen know what I'm talking about. They're losing touch with their own great inheritance whether its music, books or even film. It looks to me, like were fast developing a world full of ignorant boring and empty headed people, perhaps intentionally, that will be easy to control by our political elites. It's probably similar in Russia and Eastern Europe too. :-(

    In my clique of friends, it was easy to make the change from vinyl to CD's. The overall quality of sound was much better, and the insane level of hissing and pops that was always present in the background of vinyl records (that would only get worse as time went on) had been totally eliminated. Yay!

    What have you been listening to lately? Because of the easy access to new music through Spotify, I've become somewhat of a connoisseur of a new genre of music for me, the Canterbury sound, a subset of Prog-rock, with its roots in the past. Really great music that I would suggest to anybody that enjoys traditional prog-rock music. There's still a lot of interest it seems in prog-rock music to this day with new groups still popping up all over the place. Karfagen from Kharkiv is just such a group.


    Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.
     
    I think that you could be right here. I do remember the joy of beholding vinyl record album cover art. You just can't enjoy the minimizing effects of cover art of some albums. Although some CD covers have been quite creative too. This one, as originally sold, had incorporated some electronic components that were super cool:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Pink_Floyd_Pulse_Light_Case.jpg
    This is the outer shell of the 1995 Pink Floyd release, "Pulse" below the compartment designed to hold the blinking light that was inside the package. Normally this compartment is inside the lower outer case, and the book with the CD's in it rests in there. The ultimate in CD cover art. A very good album to own if your Pink Floyd collection is thin. A lot of great classic songs redone in concert format,

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @AP
    @Dmitry

    Spotify isn’t lossless though, so on a very good system it won’t sound quite as good.

  713. @S
    @songbird

    I think the Indians got the drop on the US forces...ie surprise. Also the troops seem to have been poorly led and demoralized. What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @songbird

    There was an unusual degree of unity among Indian tribes, but it didn’t last. One lasting consequence of the defeat was a re-organisation and upgrading of the US Army. The Indians received most of their weapons from the British, often obtained from trading posts in Ontario.

  714. @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean

    It looks like a comical German nationalism/racism and bad tourism, instead of interest about learning about countries in the Middle East she measures the Middle Eastern people in terms of their distance from Heidelberg University or knowledge of Goethe.

    It's like if I visit New York and say the Russians are the best people there, then Poles because they speak similar to Russian although some kind of lower quality than Russian. Afterall their language sounds strange, so they must be lower quality than Russians. But the Italians in New York are more creepy than the Poles because they are more different from me. And outside the doors are Mexicans - it's very mysterious, almost feeling like I am visiting a "half-American country", not the opera in Saint-Petersburg.

    In the 19th century, German society has a feeling of inferiority and believes it is behind Europe. This is at the same time, the German culture was productive and original. When the German culture was being creative, they believed they were inferior.

    In Pushkin's time and the letters, they writing how Russia is an undeveloped zone and often sceptical it could become civilized or European country. This is at the time, when the Russian classics are written, they believe they are in the most inferior culture. But when the Russian classics are beginning to be called Russian classics, this is when people are not able to write classics anymore.

    By the middle of the 20th century, Germans like Heidegger/Arendt are maybe near the end for German culture, while even more they are jingoists who believe Germany is the center of culture and civilization. Which is perhaps the intellectuals' claims about superiority of their culture are becoming more aggressive were symptom of the "falling of the dusk" for their culture.

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    It looks like a comical German nationalism/racism and bad tourism, instead of interest about learning about countries in the Middle East she measures the Middle Eastern people in terms of their distance from Heidelberg University or knowledge of Goethe.

    It’s like if I visit New York and say the Russians are the best people there, then Poles because they speak similar to Russian although some kind of lower quality than Russian. Afterall their language sounds strange, so they must be lower quality than Russians. But the Italians in New York are more creepy than the Poles because they are more different from me. And outside the doors are Mexicans – it’s very mysterious, almost feeling like I am visiting a “half-American country”, not the opera in Saint-Petersburg.

    But it isn’t exactly the same, because there’s an expected emotional connection. If a North American or European visits Morocco or Lebanon and dislikes it for its Middle Easternness that’s one thing. But if the sentiment is that Western Jews should hold affinity towards Israel because it is a bit of the West implanted in the East (but with Jews instead of Gentiles) then it isn’t unreasonable to expect it to feel European — particularly since this impression is from the early years of Israel before a lot of the significant demographic changes took place.

    But aside from the traditional feeling of superiority of German Jewry contra their eastern counterparts there’s this common thread of many German émigrés at the time, despite their liberal and leftist allegiances, feeling alienated in exile.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    many German émigrés at the time, despite their liberal and leftist allegiances, feeling alienated in exile
     
    Arendt was girlfriend of Martin Heidegger, who has thrown the German existentialist philosophy on the side of the Nazi movement in 1933 even though having a Jewish wife, Jewish son and Jewish ex-girlfriend (Arendt), also probably too much education to believe personally any parts of the Nazi ideology.

    In 1945, she supported Heidegger and helped to restore him from de-Nazification.

    In 1950s and 1960s, she visits Israel for vacations. Her interest in Israel was mainly because of the German-speaking community and having German friends who she was visiting.

    I didn't read her text. But from reading history books about Israel which discuss about her famous texts, it seems after the war she continues to view the world from a perspective of German philosophy with maybe something like a personal Goethe-index for assessing cultural progress.

    Most people agree German culture until 1933 is beautiful. But aside not being very relevant for use by tourists in the Middle East, surely using any German "civilization index" to describe Israel seems unusual after 1933-45.


    affinity towards Israel because it is a bit of the West implanted in the East (but with Jews instead of Gentiles) then it isn’t unreasonable to expect it to feel European — particularly since this impression is from the early years of Israel before a lot of the significant demographic changes took place.

     

    We can't visit the old Israel of 1950s/1960s, to experience. But from the traces, it would probably feel more like in the Eastern than Western side of the Iron Curtain.

    It could have been almost half-way to non-Soviet Warsaw Pact countries in some ways, also more like a third world frontier and refugee camp in many of the areas. It was operating as a one-party state until 1977. Fertility rate was around 4 children per women when Arendt was visiting, median age was only 22 in 1970. These demographics would be like only third world countries today.

    The alliance with America is developed mostly after 1973. The first MacDonald's opens in Israel only 1993, which is two years later than the Soviet Union. Shopping mall lifestyle, automobile culture, outdoor raves and the surfing on the beach, is only 1990s arriving culture.

    Until the 1970s television and popular culture usually seems more like it could be from communist Czechoslovakia or Poland with more collectivist media presentation of the Western music styles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkzBRGSCy4.

    The main television seemed to have probably more socialist editors so they were having Hebrew versions of The Threepenny Opera in the 1970s.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhp_Z_ok_0

    Replies: @Hyperborean

  715. @Hyperborean
    @Mikhail


    Masha Gessen makes sense:
     
    Such a lame interview, why did you post this?

    In any case, I always find hilarious this quote from a letter Hannah Arendt wrote to Karl Jaspers regarding her observations when reporting on the Eichmann Trial:

    On top, the judges, the best of German Jewry. Below them, the prosecuting attorneys, Galicians, but still Europeans. Everything is organized by a police force that gives me the creeps, speaks only Hebrew, and looks Arabic...
    they would obey any order. And outside the doors, the oriental mob, as if one were in Istanbul or some other half-Asiatic country.
    In addition, and very visible in Jerusalem, the peies and caftan Jews, who make life impossible for all the reasonable people here.”
     
    It's up there with Kissinger's "I weren't Jewish I would be anti-Semitic.'

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Wielgus, @QCIC

    Thanks for the warning. Amanpour, Gessen and Fiona Hill, now that’s a creep show!

  716. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack

    You can use Spotify free, just with commercials. So you can test it and connect it to your Technics hi fi.

    But looking at the wider view, the introduction of streaming is at the same time as reduction of interest in music and probably will not reverse the trend of the current society.

    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don't exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.

    While in 1960s America, working class people might only buy 12 albums each year, the society were more music connoisseurs on average and the music industries were more musically productive than today.

    What are possible reasons?

    Maybe one reason is because the problem of today is not the quantity of music, but quality of our attention. While streaming is increasing quantity of music in our "cupboard", it's possible the streaming format is also reducing quality of attention.


    Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD’s including his music that I don’t need to go out and buy.

     

    One of the reverse trends against streaming is the return to vinyl, which requires not only difficulty buying in terms of cost, also in terms of difficulty to even find a place where it's possible to buy the music you had wanted to buy.

    If you compare with streaming, even those large collectors of vinyl are very limited access in terms of quantity of music. They don't have "access hundreds" of albums instantly, but would maybe require weeks or months to find the music they want.

    But if we assume the problem is not quantity of music, but quality of attention. Then, the return to vinyl is making sense. Afterall it forces higher attention, as you cannot change albums easily and also their higher costs to buy mean you often have to re-listen.
    -


    You also couldn't easily speak like some of these vinyl fans on YouTube about streaming albums. Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFVUO04e1s

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    One cool development is the expanded new production of all-analog vinyl. Analog master tapes and analog all the way to your mind. Someday I will finish my essay explaining why the value of this may be real and not just technological nostalgia.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @QCIC

    I think another reason for the popularity and high price of the first press vinyl is people who want avoid the modern remastering engineers, who sometimes had strange ideas.

    From the historical view, also people often prefer to listen how the album was first released, not the remastered version which sounds different than in the epoch when it was popular, often for the 1960s/1950s stereo remixes when the original was mono.

    There is below a comparing video of the first press and the remaster for Pink Floyd.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S73CSL_YS3I

  717. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza
     
    FYI, many of the kibbutzes and Israeli military bases attacked by Hamas were not on Israeli territory, but on Gaza territory annexed by Israel. Just compare UN maps of 1946-47 with today’s ones.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.
     
    How about comparing numbers? Total numbers, per day numbers, the numbers of killed children, total and per day.

    I know honesty is politically incorrect. The reality would debunk the narratives promoted by the shameless empire and its equally shameless sidekicks.

    Replies: @AP

    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza

    FYI, many of the kibbutzes and Israeli military bases attacked by Hamas were not on Israeli territory, but on Gaza territory annexed by Israel. Just compare UN maps of 1946-47 with today’s ones.

    Well, in 1948 Egypt and other Arab countries invaded Israel and most the war, resulting in new borders that were agreed upon as armistice lines in 1949 and formally recognized in 1979.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    How about comparing numbers? Total numbers, per day numbers, the numbers of killed children, total and per day.

    We don’t have credible numbers: the number of Gaza victims comes from Hamas and Russians aren’t allowing UN to investigate on Russian-controlled territory.

    Per UN, they have counted about 10,000 killed civilians since 2022 in Ukraine but the UN states that the actual number is far higher. There are probably at least another 10,000 dead in Mariupol alone.

    I would not be surprised if Israel has killed many more Palestinians per capita than Russia has killed Ukrainians per capita; Ukraine tries to evacuate civilians from the front*, while Hamas wants to maximize civilian deaths because these deaths are good for anti-Israeli PR.

    * The Ukrainians least likely to evacuate are the most pro-Russians ones, the so-called zhduny (ждуни), who are waiting for Russian rule. So ironically, Russia is killing off a disproportionate number of pro-Russian Ukrainians. Putin is doing Bandera’s dirty work.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    No numbers, huh? Sorry to disappoint, but that’s an answer, loud and clear.

    I commiserate with the empire and its Israeli mad dog for having so inept (Russian word is more colorful “рукожопый”, which literally means “one with hands growing out of the ass”) defenders.

    Replies: @AP

  718. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...potentially restarted... still uncertain
     
    The weasel words of a loser. You are in a good place, keep on digging...

    Most people are not Slovaks.
     
    Thank god for that. We amuse ourselves with Polish 'heroism', Czech brown-nosing, Galician Ukie childish yearnings, and the scatological German lack of judgment...but we like the Austrians, good pastries...:)

    Replies: @AP

    potentially restarted… still uncertain

    The weasel words of a loser

    It is not weasel-like to be honest about uncertainty. Naturally, you wouldn’t understand that.

    Most people are not Slovaks.

    Thank god for that

    Not really. If every nation whored itself out to whoever appeared to be stronger at a given time (Slovakia did it for the Nazis, then Communists) then either Nazis would have won or later Soviets would have ruled forever. And before that, Turks or Arabs.

    It is because of stubborn Poles, Russians, Austrians, Ukrainians, Spaniards, even French that the world is not a lot worse than it is.

    In recent history, the refusal and resistance of the Poles and later the Soviet peoples brought down the Nazis. The Polish resistance brought down the Soviet system in Eastern Europe. The end of the USSR itself was spearheaded by the brave and stubborn Balts and actualised by the Ukrainians.

  719. @Mikhail
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/xi-jinping-and-russia-s-pm-took-a-victory-lap-over-the-us-s-failure-to-economically-isolate-russia-since-its-invasion-of-ukraine/ar-AA1lQBb3?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5caa2d28322842509efc645902890d8f&ei=18

    -------------------------------

    Kiev is Losing the Drone War Too, Kiev Regime to Conscript 500k New Troops for the Meat Grinder, Zelenskiy Bugging Zaluzhny?, Gaza Leads to Yemen and the Impotence of the UN.
    https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/kiev-is-losing-the-drone-war-too?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2


    -------------------------------

    https://www.rt.com/russia/589315-russian-tv-series-ukrainian-politicians/

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    New Troops for the Meat Grinder

    As there are no volunteers for many months now, Kiev regime is forcibly “recruiting” men for the meat grinder. With humongous losses at the front, regime recruiting commissars snatch their victims more and more aggressively. Recent scandal erupted when the footage of kidnapping yet another “recruit” in Odessa by Ukrainian conscription commissars using an ambulance appeared on the web. The story itself had happy ending: man’s wife fought off kidnappers and freed her husband. But the ambulance used was donated to Ukies by UUF and, according to Western useful idiots, was meant to be used on the front lines. UUF issued an aggrieved statement, but the scandal keeps rolling.

    More on this:
    https://www.txtreport.com/news/2023-12-22-%22military-commissars-%22squeezed%22-the-front-line-ambulance-%22--the-scandal-in-odesa-with-the-tough-mobilization-of-a-man-is-gaining-momentum.B1QdHs-QDp.html

  720. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    It looks like a comical German nationalism/racism and bad tourism, instead of interest about learning about countries in the Middle East she measures the Middle Eastern people in terms of their distance from Heidelberg University or knowledge of Goethe.

    It’s like if I visit New York and say the Russians are the best people there, then Poles because they speak similar to Russian although some kind of lower quality than Russian. Afterall their language sounds strange, so they must be lower quality than Russians. But the Italians in New York are more creepy than the Poles because they are more different from me. And outside the doors are Mexicans – it’s very mysterious, almost feeling like I am visiting a “half-American country”, not the opera in Saint-Petersburg.
     
    But it isn't exactly the same, because there's an expected emotional connection. If a North American or European visits Morocco or Lebanon and dislikes it for its Middle Easternness that's one thing. But if the sentiment is that Western Jews should hold affinity towards Israel because it is a bit of the West implanted in the East (but with Jews instead of Gentiles) then it isn't unreasonable to expect it to feel European — particularly since this impression is from the early years of Israel before a lot of the significant demographic changes took place.

    But aside from the traditional feeling of superiority of German Jewry contra their eastern counterparts there's this common thread of many German émigrés at the time, despite their liberal and leftist allegiances, feeling alienated in exile.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    many German émigrés at the time, despite their liberal and leftist allegiances, feeling alienated in exile

    Arendt was girlfriend of Martin Heidegger, who has thrown the German existentialist philosophy on the side of the Nazi movement in 1933 even though having a Jewish wife, Jewish son and Jewish ex-girlfriend (Arendt), also probably too much education to believe personally any parts of the Nazi ideology.

    In 1945, she supported Heidegger and helped to restore him from de-Nazification.

    In 1950s and 1960s, she visits Israel for vacations. Her interest in Israel was mainly because of the German-speaking community and having German friends who she was visiting.

    I didn’t read her text. But from reading history books about Israel which discuss about her famous texts, it seems after the war she continues to view the world from a perspective of German philosophy with maybe something like a personal Goethe-index for assessing cultural progress.

    Most people agree German culture until 1933 is beautiful. But aside not being very relevant for use by tourists in the Middle East, surely using any German “civilization index” to describe Israel seems unusual after 1933-45.

    affinity towards Israel because it is a bit of the West implanted in the East (but with Jews instead of Gentiles) then it isn’t unreasonable to expect it to feel European — particularly since this impression is from the early years of Israel before a lot of the significant demographic changes took place.

    We can’t visit the old Israel of 1950s/1960s, to experience. But from the traces, it would probably feel more like in the Eastern than Western side of the Iron Curtain.

    It could have been almost half-way to non-Soviet Warsaw Pact countries in some ways, also more like a third world frontier and refugee camp in many of the areas. It was operating as a one-party state until 1977. Fertility rate was around 4 children per women when Arendt was visiting, median age was only 22 in 1970. These demographics would be like only third world countries today.

    The alliance with America is developed mostly after 1973. The first MacDonald’s opens in Israel only 1993, which is two years later than the Soviet Union. Shopping mall lifestyle, automobile culture, outdoor raves and the surfing on the beach, is only 1990s arriving culture.

    Until the 1970s television and popular culture usually seems more like it could be from communist Czechoslovakia or Poland with more collectivist media presentation of the Western music styles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkzBRGSCy4.

    The main television seemed to have probably more socialist editors so they were having Hebrew versions of The Threepenny Opera in the 1970s.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    I didn’t read her text. But from reading history books about Israel which discuss about her famous texts, it seems after the war she continues to view the world from a perspective of German philosophy with maybe something like a personal Goethe-index for assessing cultural progress.

    Most people agree German culture until 1933 is beautiful. But aside not being very relevant for use by tourists in the Middle East, surely using any German “civilization index” to describe Israel seems unusual after 1933-45.
     
    Because it is not just about being a tourist. The question is, in so far as Israel claims to speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

    If Israeli culture and Western culture are deemed too far apart, then one can respond to this by either carrying out mental Israelisation or a distancing of oneself from the Israel that fell short.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one's own culture, the way the Jewish New York intellectuals of Commentary magazine and the like did.

    We can’t visit the old Israel of 1950s/1960s, to experience. But from the traces, it would probably feel more like in the Eastern than Western side of the Iron Curtain.

    It could have been almost half-way to non-Soviet Warsaw Pact countries in some ways, also more like a third world frontier and refugee camp in many of the areas.
     
    I don't disagree about the real conditions, I am just talking about what impression would the average Western person expect?

    Imagine Ruritanians, long oppressed, set out to establish a national state in South America (lets say in present day Suriname and Guyana). They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit... and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

  721. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Our former host wrote here that he found you posting from an industrial part of England (he wasn’t specific about which one so as not to doxx you).

    So you moved to the worst part of England, where you post from. Your English has become okay, but you make mistakes with your Russian, which apparently you have partially forgotten as you’ve settled into your new life as a low-skilled immigrant in England.
     
    LMAO!!! So you, as a non-life fantasist have no option but to lie and then lie again.......then lie even more just to make it so obvious that you are lying and projecting what you wish to be true ( and adding Britain to the list of places you know nothing about, outside of your Jabba the Hut non-life lifestyle.

    As you know. None of what you are saying is true ( neither does it matter anyway , but it just shows how tedious nonsense is the only tactic for filth like you) . Either you are lying by yourself or Karlin would have mislead you as I was having severe disagreement with him at the time and he had some PMS.......and attention-whores like you are probably having private correspondence with him before begging to ban me and do a stunt like that. But all ended fine with him and I wish him well. Different to you, he is sane and can speak Russian

    There is nothing threatening for me to be "doxx" or can I be anyway due to the connection I use, you though would without doubt commit suicide out of shame for the family if you were ( and lol do you act like that is the circumstance)

    Anyway, now repeat after me the glorious and typical slavic name of Cherkassy!!

    Replies: @AP

    Cry more about having been caught living in an English rust belt wasteland. You’ve mentioned specifically English things enough to confirm that this is where you are.

  722. @QCIC
    @Dmitry

    One cool development is the expanded new production of all-analog vinyl. Analog master tapes and analog all the way to your mind. Someday I will finish my essay explaining why the value of this may be real and not just technological nostalgia.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    I think another reason for the popularity and high price of the first press vinyl is people who want avoid the modern remastering engineers, who sometimes had strange ideas.

    From the historical view, also people often prefer to listen how the album was first released, not the remastered version which sounds different than in the epoch when it was popular, often for the 1960s/1950s stereo remixes when the original was mono.

    There is below a comparing video of the first press and the remaster for Pink Floyd.

  723. More evidence that Russia is trying to avoid paying its own soldiers:

  724. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN

    There is nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents, wide scale destruction of the fruits of people's labor, of people's livelihoods, a country being violently partitioned is more than a legitimate source of righteous anger.


    Reminds one of May 1945.
     
    On the contrary - everything about the post-1945 will now be reorganized. Do not assume that yours will come on top in all instances.

    You're a retrograde boomer who sees "Nazis" under every bed.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234, @Beckow

    everything about the post-1945 will now be reorganized.

    FYI, post-1945 order (impotently sanctified in Helsinki declaration about inviolate post-war borders) is long dead: the breakup of Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, and USSR, as well as unification of Germany blatantly violated it. Now the second rearrangement is coming, and your masters don’t like it: regardless who comes on top, the empire is losing its top position.

    My condolences to its first-, second-, and third-rate vassals.

  725. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack

    You can use Spotify free, just with commercials. So you can test it and connect it to your Technics hi fi.

    But looking at the wider view, the introduction of streaming is at the same time as reduction of interest in music and probably will not reverse the trend of the current society.

    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don't exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.

    While in 1960s America, working class people might only buy 12 albums each year, the society were more music connoisseurs on average and the music industries were more musically productive than today.

    What are possible reasons?

    Maybe one reason is because the problem of today is not the quantity of music, but quality of our attention. While streaming is increasing quantity of music in our "cupboard", it's possible the streaming format is also reducing quality of attention.


    Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD’s including his music that I don’t need to go out and buy.

     

    One of the reverse trends against streaming is the return to vinyl, which requires not only difficulty buying in terms of cost, also in terms of difficulty to even find a place where it's possible to buy the music you had wanted to buy.

    If you compare with streaming, even those large collectors of vinyl are very limited access in terms of quantity of music. They don't have "access hundreds" of albums instantly, but would maybe require weeks or months to find the music they want.

    But if we assume the problem is not quantity of music, but quality of attention. Then, the return to vinyl is making sense. Afterall it forces higher attention, as you cannot change albums easily and also their higher costs to buy mean you often have to re-listen.
    -


    You also couldn't easily speak like some of these vinyl fans on YouTube about streaming albums. Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFVUO04e1s

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don’t exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.

    This may be true, but for many, I would think that streaming opens up a huge door of opportunity to experiment and listen to many forms of music and artists that they may never even listen to. We already know that many young people don’t read books for entertainment, and now you’re suggesting that many also don’t really expand their interests in music beyond the everyday hum drum. Heck, whenever I occasionally breach the topic of older films at work with those younger than myself, they don’t enen know what I’m talking about. They’re losing touch with their own great inheritance whether its music, books or even film. It looks to me, like were fast developing a world full of ignorant boring and empty headed people, perhaps intentionally, that will be easy to control by our political elites. It’s probably similar in Russia and Eastern Europe too. 🙁

    In my clique of friends, it was easy to make the change from vinyl to CD’s. The overall quality of sound was much better, and the insane level of hissing and pops that was always present in the background of vinyl records (that would only get worse as time went on) had been totally eliminated. Yay!

    What have you been listening to lately? Because of the easy access to new music through Spotify, I’ve become somewhat of a connoisseur of a new genre of music for me, the Canterbury sound, a subset of Prog-rock, with its roots in the past. Really great music that I would suggest to anybody that enjoys traditional prog-rock music. There’s still a lot of interest it seems in prog-rock music to this day with new groups still popping up all over the place. Karfagen from Kharkiv is just such a group.

    Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.

    I think that you could be right here. I do remember the joy of beholding vinyl record album cover art. You just can’t enjoy the minimizing effects of cover art of some albums. Although some CD covers have been quite creative too. This one, as originally sold, had incorporated some electronic components that were super cool:
    This is the outer shell of the 1995 Pink Floyd release, “Pulse” below the compartment designed to hold the blinking light that was inside the package. Normally this compartment is inside the lower outer case, and the book with the CD’s in it rests in there. The ultimate in CD cover art. A very good album to own if your Pink Floyd collection is thin. A lot of great classic songs redone in concert format,

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    similar in Russia
     
    In Russia, especially after the internet there are a lot of audiophile groups which are recycling equipment of the 1980s and 1970s. The social media group of Vasiliy Zaytsev has a lot of those fans of 1980s equipment
    https://vk.com/retrosoundshop

    But, maybe 99% of the people of the group are men older than 30 years old .

    Young people mainly don't have much interest except headphones. Also general culture of interest about electronics falling as the education system progressively died and there is loss of possibility of jobs in electronics as a career in Russia.


    clique of friends, it was easy to make the change from vinyl to CD’s. The overall quality of sound was much better, and the insane level of hissing and pops that was always present in the background of vinyl records

     

    Lack of hissing was a demand of classical music fans. That's how Sony-Philips was marketing for years before the format launches in 1982.

    I'm not sure it's really so important for less dynamic music as today people don't seem to dislike the hissing in vinyl.

    CDs were a kind of luxury product for the first few years. Quality and design of the consumer electronics in those times when they made them in Japan was just a different level compared to today now most everything is from third world countries and value engineering.

    Some of those 1980s players are like something from a higher civilization. The spacious layout of the main board for the Elna and Nichicon caps.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnaCeFpskh0

    Replies: @QCIC

  726. @Matra
    Is the tweet below from the AaronGross who posts here as HeavilyMarbledSteak (or something similar) or I'm a mixing up my Jews?

    https://twitter.com/MatthewParrott/status/1736819866303344660

    Replies: @ShortOnTime, @silviosilver

    Is the tweet below from the AaronGross who posts here as HeavilyMarbledSteak (or something similar) or I’m a mixing up my Jews?

    No, that’s a different Aaron. I think it’s the same guy I’ve seen posting as “Aaron in Israel” or something like that. Aaron Gross is your typical “anti-racist” bullshit artist.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @silviosilver

    Could very well be wrong, but it is actually pretty hard for me to imagine HMS on Twitter. Don't think it fits his style, which is longform, and also he is someone who still reads novels. Don't recall him ever linking to a tweet.

    , @AP
    @silviosilver

    Aaron Gross never mentioned Utah, or David Bentley Hart. So he is not our Aaron.

  727. @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    many German émigrés at the time, despite their liberal and leftist allegiances, feeling alienated in exile
     
    Arendt was girlfriend of Martin Heidegger, who has thrown the German existentialist philosophy on the side of the Nazi movement in 1933 even though having a Jewish wife, Jewish son and Jewish ex-girlfriend (Arendt), also probably too much education to believe personally any parts of the Nazi ideology.

    In 1945, she supported Heidegger and helped to restore him from de-Nazification.

    In 1950s and 1960s, she visits Israel for vacations. Her interest in Israel was mainly because of the German-speaking community and having German friends who she was visiting.

    I didn't read her text. But from reading history books about Israel which discuss about her famous texts, it seems after the war she continues to view the world from a perspective of German philosophy with maybe something like a personal Goethe-index for assessing cultural progress.

    Most people agree German culture until 1933 is beautiful. But aside not being very relevant for use by tourists in the Middle East, surely using any German "civilization index" to describe Israel seems unusual after 1933-45.


    affinity towards Israel because it is a bit of the West implanted in the East (but with Jews instead of Gentiles) then it isn’t unreasonable to expect it to feel European — particularly since this impression is from the early years of Israel before a lot of the significant demographic changes took place.

     

    We can't visit the old Israel of 1950s/1960s, to experience. But from the traces, it would probably feel more like in the Eastern than Western side of the Iron Curtain.

    It could have been almost half-way to non-Soviet Warsaw Pact countries in some ways, also more like a third world frontier and refugee camp in many of the areas. It was operating as a one-party state until 1977. Fertility rate was around 4 children per women when Arendt was visiting, median age was only 22 in 1970. These demographics would be like only third world countries today.

    The alliance with America is developed mostly after 1973. The first MacDonald's opens in Israel only 1993, which is two years later than the Soviet Union. Shopping mall lifestyle, automobile culture, outdoor raves and the surfing on the beach, is only 1990s arriving culture.

    Until the 1970s television and popular culture usually seems more like it could be from communist Czechoslovakia or Poland with more collectivist media presentation of the Western music styles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkzBRGSCy4.

    The main television seemed to have probably more socialist editors so they were having Hebrew versions of The Threepenny Opera in the 1970s.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhp_Z_ok_0

    Replies: @Hyperborean

    I didn’t read her text. But from reading history books about Israel which discuss about her famous texts, it seems after the war she continues to view the world from a perspective of German philosophy with maybe something like a personal Goethe-index for assessing cultural progress.

    Most people agree German culture until 1933 is beautiful. But aside not being very relevant for use by tourists in the Middle East, surely using any German “civilization index” to describe Israel seems unusual after 1933-45.

    Because it is not just about being a tourist. The question is, in so far as Israel claims to speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

    If Israeli culture and Western culture are deemed too far apart, then one can respond to this by either carrying out mental Israelisation or a distancing of oneself from the Israel that fell short.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one’s own culture, the way the Jewish New York intellectuals of Commentary magazine and the like did.

    We can’t visit the old Israel of 1950s/1960s, to experience. But from the traces, it would probably feel more like in the Eastern than Western side of the Iron Curtain.

    It could have been almost half-way to non-Soviet Warsaw Pact countries in some ways, also more like a third world frontier and refugee camp in many of the areas.

    I don’t disagree about the real conditions, I am just talking about what impression would the average Western person expect?

    Imagine Ruritanians, long oppressed, set out to establish a national state in South America (lets say in present day Suriname and Guyana). They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit… and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Hyperborean

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/south-america/argentina/articles/la-cumbrecita-argentina-secret-german-village/

    Somebody should go down to Argentina and do some interviews and ask the ethnic German residents-citizens what they think of the modern castrated German nation.

    , @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews
     
    Her evaluation probably from the German philosophy and political theory, for her friends who are the circle of German philosophy and political theory. Maybe also with some views about a possibility of immigration for herself.

    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history's most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

    For the obvious reasons, Israel would not be somewhere to expect her culture to survive beyond the first generation of the immigrants from Germany and more people there were probably interested to lose German culture than to continue it.


    necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

     

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It's like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one’s own

     

    If you create a country using immigrants from all the Catholic countries, you would have as basis for the statement building all these immigrants like Catholics from Colombia, India, Africa, Filipinos, Germans, Irish, Hungarians, Italians.

    Obviously with such a blank state building, when the German culture was still prestigious, people would want more German culture, less Colombian culture.

    In the 19th century, when Meiji Japan or Russian empire is modernizing, importing German concepts, culture and expertise is prioritized.

    But not many people would prioritize German culture after the 1930s, especially in the example when Germany had persecuted the group who is doing statebuilding. Even especially immigrants from Germany, will be trying to remove the culture.


    They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit… and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

     

    You would expect before the visit the country will be a mix of military camp and refugee camp. Probably strictly management and collectivist, with features like the highest military spending as proportion of the economy in the world. So, you would expect a culture like 1950s/1960s Israel. So, someone to expect they would visit Heidelberg would be strange and just applying to the incorrect country.

    Eventually, Israel radically liberalized socially, econmoically and politically in the 1980s/1990s. It becomes a luxury Western country in 2000s/2010s, with individualist culture. Proportion of military spending falls 5 times. But the security level also seems to fall and the military attainments fall.

    If you consider the expectations vs. reality of the 1950s/1960s. Reality would have been more successful than most peoples' rational expectation. Ben-Gurion has similar attainments as Stalin in some aspects, with many less years. By the time, Ben-Gurion died, Israel early space programme, nuclear weapons, intercontinental ballistic missiles. Within 10 years, they build for people in refugee camps, higher or similar standard of living as the Soviet Union in the 1970s, which required more than 50 years of Soviet attainments.

    But compared to Stalin, Ben-Gurion and other Israeli leaders were weak and humanitarian in terms of the demographic aspect of the state building, not completely winning of internal and external wars, giving inheritance for later conflicts. Stalin would have deported the Arab population within a few weeks, if he followed his policies like the total Chechen population deported to Kazakhstan in a few weeks in 1944. Stalin wouldn't have followed Israeli policies like avoiding military victory in the end (in 1973).

    It's in the specific dimension of the security where the reality has been usually far worse than expectations for Israel. There is not anything rational in the perspective of Arendt that the problem was culture or to be "half-Asiatic".

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Emil Nikola Richard

  728. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    LOL. No-you were caught fantasising about me living in the worst and most post-industrial park of England
     
    Our former host wrote here that he found you posting from an industrial part of England (he wasn't specific about which one so as not to doxx you).

    So you moved to the worst part of England, where you post from. Your English has become okay, but you make mistakes with your Russian, which apparently you have partially forgotten as you've settled into your new life as a low-skilled immigrant in England.

    Quite a lot of crying because I visit Moscow, Russia's best city, more than you do. I won't count the paragraphs this time.

    And, as a Soviet civil "engineer", you've still failed to understand why median is a better measure than mean when counting people.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.

    I agree about Moscow. Never been there in my life and could not locate in on the map. There is no sign of direct flights opening between Kazan and Idaho. Knowing nothing about Idaho, I would take a guess that is like Montana (which I have visited), but different to a lowlife like you – I am not going to write 1000’s of spamtroll posts on something or place I know nothing about.

    I can only think of Moscow in Idaho is what you are talking about , because it sure as f**k isn’t Moscow in Russia for a scumbag fantasist as yourself ! Notice there are Russian places in North America, different to “Ukrainian” place names ….where there is not a single one, LMAO.

    As for the real Moscow, I was there 7 weeks ago ,idiot.

    But that brings me to a serious point. Obviously you have never been to Ukraine or Russia, but by copying Banderatard diaspora in US, you can pretend to be like them by of course never stepping in “Ukraine” to defend “your” people. LOL. The last place to expect to find these Galician diaspora would of course be anywhere near the frontline.

    Even worse is why a fantasist loser as yourself, wasting time by doing total nonsense on here, isn’t doing something useful ….like taking into the US on sponsorship scheme any “Ukrainian” currently being “genocided” by Russia? LOL. “Strange” why you wouldn’t do that with no physical cost to yourself or even financial?

    Millions of ukrops DESPERATE to get the green card every year before the SMO. Now since the SMO , even more are desperate to come……..and now they can get into America and Canada for free and earn a life-changing amount of money in a very short time for them and their families.
    US and Canada governments giving money to people taking them into their homes………but no sign of any in your house (well, mothers basement not house for you possibly)

    Outside of WASPs, liberals, sextourists,Jews with Soviet or Russian vendetta……the pitiful number of 200000 ukrops allowed into US and Canada could only indicate that the large majority of scumbag, CIA-smuggled Banderetard diaspora have not allowed Ukrainians to immigrate and live in their homes.

    The SMO has allowed ANY Ukrainian to come, with those with relative in US even easier – but it seems mostly American fatslug sextourists have taken advantage of this……….it appears every Instagram Ukrainian whore who is young, beautiful and single appears to have acquired an American to sponsor her into the country. It seems to be Hawaii, Oregon, New York, Florida or California every time for each of them relocated to. Normal hardworking ukrop family that always dreamed of the US…….not so much luck in benefactor for them.

    Anyone else explain why this fake doctor AP troll, faking being Ukrainian ………is NOT saving any ukrops by bringing them into his house?? LOL

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234

    That you were triggered into such a stream of coprolalia in response to what I wrote further confirms that you visit Moscow less often than I do.

    It’s funny that I, a non-Russian, have a better connection to Russia than do you, who left for work in some English post-industrial wasteland. I don’t blame you, Kazan was an even worse hole in the 90s than the hole you live in now.

    I’ve been in Moscow more than you have. Maybe if this war lasts a long time you’ll catch up eventually, I refuse to visit while the war is ongoing.

    , @Jazman
    @Gerard1234

    He knows if he let Ukrop into his home no matter how much he help they will never appreciate that lol

  729. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN

    There is nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents, wide scale destruction of the fruits of people's labor, of people's livelihoods, a country being violently partitioned is more than a legitimate source of righteous anger.


    Reminds one of May 1945.
     
    On the contrary - everything about the post-1945 will now be reorganized. Do not assume that yours will come on top in all instances.

    You're a retrograde boomer who sees "Nazis" under every bed.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234, @Beckow

    Tell your boyfriend, that prick Sudden Death , that when we are finished denazifying and demilitarising 404….I believe the reunification of the ancient Russian lands of Lithuania will be our next campaign.
    Lithuania isn’t their name anyway – the new name or returned name of the state after we liberate will be Chyornarus, Black Russia.

    It’s our land. Russian property. Belarus was always Belarus, Chyornarus was always Chyornarus. I will lobby the government to ensure Chyornarus does become what it says………….every Afghan,Somali, Eritrean, “persecuted” Chechen homo, OJ Simpson, Congan , Malawan, can come and seek refuge there, so that it does become a literal Black Russia.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    You will remain in this land forever (as fertilizer), rest assured.

    Btw, Ivan Grozny is not even fully Rus - his mother was half Lipka Tatar (so essentially a citizen of Lithuania), and half Serbian. Probably could not speak the Rus language of that time. Just like Tsar Nikolai's wife who never spoke Russian (Nikolai spoke English to her). Nikolai spoke Russian with an accent (there's an audio clip).

    "Аз есмь царь" (As esm' tsar) - ever heard of this phrase? The tsars wore it etched on their ring - it's pure Baltic speech (spoken even today).

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    , @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    Speaking of boyfriends & husbands, the wives are truly desperate now. As you can see from this documentary, it is not just ex-cons that they are sending to the front lines, no, they are sending normal middle class muzhiks. Most likely paid ones who wanted to make some extra cash by murdering people in a neighboring country - and now they are stuck there. The children want their dads. A good husband is actually not that easy to replace, especially if he's the father of your children.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP4tgxdok3c&t=1139s

    , @sudden death
    @Gerard1234

    Even in the earliest mentions, around 1450, Rossia Negra and Lituana were geographically entirely separate territorial entities:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Rossia_Fra_Mauro.png

    Anyway, while you have typical wet sovok dreams about negrifying foreign white lands wherever imaginable, never dissapointing IslamoPutin is already letting in and starting naturalizing muslim Gazan hordes in RF, lol


    MAKHACHKALA, December 23 - RIA Novosti. The first group of evacuated Palestinian residents who arrived in Dagestan received passports of Russian citizens on Saturday; the documents were handed to 45 refugees, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports.
    According to a representative of the Migration Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for Dagestan, among those who received a passport there were 26 men and 19 women. Among them are seven minors, the youngest is 14 years old.

    “Obtaining passports gives you the opportunity to realize yourself in various fields of activity, you receive rights and benefits that are provided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation. You will have the opportunity to receive medical care, education, and realize yourself in your profession,” said Deputy Chairman of the Government of Dagestan Abdurakhman Makhmudov.
    Since November 25, several groups of evacuees from the Gaza Strip arrived in Dagestan - more than 150 people in total, including over 70 children. They live at one of the recreation centers, where a temporary accommodation center has been set up.
     
    https://ria.ru/20231223/palestina-1917671253.html
  730. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack

    You can use Spotify free, just with commercials. So you can test it and connect it to your Technics hi fi.

    But looking at the wider view, the introduction of streaming is at the same time as reduction of interest in music and probably will not reverse the trend of the current society.

    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don't exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.

    While in 1960s America, working class people might only buy 12 albums each year, the society were more music connoisseurs on average and the music industries were more musically productive than today.

    What are possible reasons?

    Maybe one reason is because the problem of today is not the quantity of music, but quality of our attention. While streaming is increasing quantity of music in our "cupboard", it's possible the streaming format is also reducing quality of attention.


    Spotify and joilla, I have the opportunity to now access hundreds of CD’s including his music that I don’t need to go out and buy.

     

    One of the reverse trends against streaming is the return to vinyl, which requires not only difficulty buying in terms of cost, also in terms of difficulty to even find a place where it's possible to buy the music you had wanted to buy.

    If you compare with streaming, even those large collectors of vinyl are very limited access in terms of quantity of music. They don't have "access hundreds" of albums instantly, but would maybe require weeks or months to find the music they want.

    But if we assume the problem is not quantity of music, but quality of attention. Then, the return to vinyl is making sense. Afterall it forces higher attention, as you cannot change albums easily and also their higher costs to buy mean you often have to re-listen.
    -


    You also couldn't easily speak like some of these vinyl fans on YouTube about streaming albums. Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFVUO04e1s

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack, @AP

    Spotify isn’t lossless though, so on a very good system it won’t sound quite as good.

  731. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Hamas invaded beyond Gaza

    FYI, many of the kibbutzes and Israeli military bases attacked by Hamas were not on Israeli territory, but on Gaza territory annexed by Israel. Just compare UN maps of 1946-47 with today’s ones.
     
    Well, in 1948 Egypt and other Arab countries invaded Israel and most the war, resulting in new borders that were agreed upon as armistice lines in 1949 and formally recognized in 1979.

    But both Israel and Russia kill civilians.

    How about comparing numbers? Total numbers, per day numbers, the numbers of killed children, total and per day.
     
    We don’t have credible numbers: the number of Gaza victims comes from Hamas and Russians aren’t allowing UN to investigate on Russian-controlled territory.

    Per UN, they have counted about 10,000 killed civilians since 2022 in Ukraine but the UN states that the actual number is far higher. There are probably at least another 10,000 dead in Mariupol alone.

    I would not be surprised if Israel has killed many more Palestinians per capita than Russia has killed Ukrainians per capita; Ukraine tries to evacuate civilians from the front*, while Hamas wants to maximize civilian deaths because these deaths are good for anti-Israeli PR.

    * The Ukrainians least likely to evacuate are the most pro-Russians ones, the so-called zhduny (ждуни), who are waiting for Russian rule. So ironically, Russia is killing off a disproportionate number of pro-Russian Ukrainians. Putin is doing Bandera’s dirty work.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    No numbers, huh? Sorry to disappoint, but that’s an answer, loud and clear.

    I commiserate with the empire and its Israeli mad dog for having so inept (Russian word is more colorful “рукожопый”, which literally means “one with hands growing out of the ass”) defenders.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    You don’t have numbers for Gaza either. So far there are only Hamas claims.

    I posted numbers for Ukraine. Per the UN, around 10,000 civilian deaths confirmed but according to them the actual number is a lot higher.

    Putin is far more competent and effective at killing Russian-speaking people in Eastern Ukraine than is any Westerner or pro-Westerner though. You support that effort, congratulations.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  732. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.
     
    I agree about Moscow. Never been there in my life and could not locate in on the map. There is no sign of direct flights opening between Kazan and Idaho. Knowing nothing about Idaho, I would take a guess that is like Montana (which I have visited), but different to a lowlife like you - I am not going to write 1000's of spamtroll posts on something or place I know nothing about.

    I can only think of Moscow in Idaho is what you are talking about , because it sure as f**k isn't Moscow in Russia for a scumbag fantasist as yourself ! Notice there are Russian places in North America, different to "Ukrainian" place names ....where there is not a single one, LMAO.

    As for the real Moscow, I was there 7 weeks ago ,idiot.

    But that brings me to a serious point. Obviously you have never been to Ukraine or Russia, but by copying Banderatard diaspora in US, you can pretend to be like them by of course never stepping in "Ukraine" to defend "your" people. LOL. The last place to expect to find these Galician diaspora would of course be anywhere near the frontline.

    Even worse is why a fantasist loser as yourself, wasting time by doing total nonsense on here, isn't doing something useful ....like taking into the US on sponsorship scheme any "Ukrainian" currently being "genocided" by Russia? LOL. "Strange" why you wouldn't do that with no physical cost to yourself or even financial?

    Millions of ukrops DESPERATE to get the green card every year before the SMO. Now since the SMO , even more are desperate to come........and now they can get into America and Canada for free and earn a life-changing amount of money in a very short time for them and their families.
    US and Canada governments giving money to people taking them into their homes.........but no sign of any in your house (well, mothers basement not house for you possibly)

    Outside of WASPs, liberals, sextourists,Jews with Soviet or Russian vendetta......the pitiful number of 200000 ukrops allowed into US and Canada could only indicate that the large majority of scumbag, CIA-smuggled Banderetard diaspora have not allowed Ukrainians to immigrate and live in their homes.

    The SMO has allowed ANY Ukrainian to come, with those with relative in US even easier - but it seems mostly American fatslug sextourists have taken advantage of this..........it appears every Instagram Ukrainian whore who is young, beautiful and single appears to have acquired an American to sponsor her into the country. It seems to be Hawaii, Oregon, New York, Florida or California every time for each of them relocated to. Normal hardworking ukrop family that always dreamed of the US.......not so much luck in benefactor for them.

    Anyone else explain why this fake doctor AP troll, faking being Ukrainian .........is NOT saving any ukrops by bringing them into his house?? LOL

    Replies: @AP, @Jazman

    That you were triggered into such a stream of coprolalia in response to what I wrote further confirms that you visit Moscow less often than I do.

    It’s funny that I, a non-Russian, have a better connection to Russia than do you, who left for work in some English post-industrial wasteland. I don’t blame you, Kazan was an even worse hole in the 90s than the hole you live in now.

    I’ve been in Moscow more than you have. Maybe if this war lasts a long time you’ll catch up eventually, I refuse to visit while the war is ongoing.

  733. @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    No numbers, huh? Sorry to disappoint, but that’s an answer, loud and clear.

    I commiserate with the empire and its Israeli mad dog for having so inept (Russian word is more colorful “рукожопый”, which literally means “one with hands growing out of the ass”) defenders.

    Replies: @AP

    You don’t have numbers for Gaza either. So far there are only Hamas claims.

    I posted numbers for Ukraine. Per the UN, around 10,000 civilian deaths confirmed but according to them the actual number is a lot higher.

    Putin is far more competent and effective at killing Russian-speaking people in Eastern Ukraine than is any Westerner or pro-Westerner though. You support that effort, congratulations.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    Keep evading. What else can your ilk do?

    Even usually mealy-mouthed UN Guterres acknowledged that in Gaza thousands of children are killed by Israel within a few weeks:
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143772
    Imperial mouthpiece NYT:
    The war turns Gaza into a graveyard of children
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/18/world/middleeast/gaza-children-israel.html
    Another mouthpiece The Guardian puts the death toll of Gaza children at 4,000
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/05/gazas-children-face-catastrophe-as-death-toll-nears-4000-un-warns
    AP news cites 3,600
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021
    And so on…

    But defenders of genocide are blind by choice.

    Replies: @AP

  734. If massive solar power stations in space were realized, would we just be a hop, skip, and a jump from weather and climatic manipulation? Like could you make it rain more in Somalia? (Just as a hypothetical – not that I perceive any benefit to trying to maximalize the place.)

    Will the future water wars be over the manipulation of monsoon winds?

  735. @AP
    @AnonfromTN

    You don’t have numbers for Gaza either. So far there are only Hamas claims.

    I posted numbers for Ukraine. Per the UN, around 10,000 civilian deaths confirmed but according to them the actual number is a lot higher.

    Putin is far more competent and effective at killing Russian-speaking people in Eastern Ukraine than is any Westerner or pro-Westerner though. You support that effort, congratulations.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Keep evading. What else can your ilk do?

    Even usually mealy-mouthed UN Guterres acknowledged that in Gaza thousands of children are killed by Israel within a few weeks:
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143772
    Imperial mouthpiece NYT:
    The war turns Gaza into a graveyard of children
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/18/world/middleeast/gaza-children-israel.html
    Another mouthpiece The Guardian puts the death toll of Gaza children at 4,000
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/05/gazas-children-face-catastrophe-as-death-toll-nears-4000-un-warns
    AP news cites 3,600
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021
    And so on…

    But defenders of genocide are blind by choice.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    AP news cites 3,600
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021
    And so on…
     
    “More than 3,600 Palestinian children were killed in the first 25 days of the war between Israel and Hamas, according to Gaza’s Hamas-run Health Ministry

    You are just another gullible boomer.

    I am sure the numbers are pretty high because Hamas is motivated to have as many civilians dead as possible (it is not like the Ukrainian government), this motivation also makes their claims rather suspect. We don’t have exact numbers yet.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  736. @LatW
    @AnonfromTN

    There is nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents, wide scale destruction of the fruits of people's labor, of people's livelihoods, a country being violently partitioned is more than a legitimate source of righteous anger.


    Reminds one of May 1945.
     
    On the contrary - everything about the post-1945 will now be reorganized. Do not assume that yours will come on top in all instances.

    You're a retrograde boomer who sees "Nazis" under every bed.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Gerard1234, @Beckow

    …nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents…country being violently partitioned is a legitimate source of righteous anger.

    Gaza? Donbas? Serbia? Iraq? Syria? You must be angry a lot…

    Judging wars only on moral grounds is a mistake. Morality is subjective as we see from your one-sided comments. Wars are too bloody and disruptive to hide in moral cliches.

    The only question is: what is the war fought over? Is it a reason to die and to destroy a country? All the other stuff is hot air, deceptions, lies, palliatives, posturing.

    People pretend to disagree that the war is about the attempted Nato expansion to Ukraine, it is too painful. All wars have multiple reasons, but the Nato expansion is the sine qua non – nobody in their right mind argues that there would be the war without it. As late as April 2022 the war could have been ended with Kiev agreeing to neutrality – as they agreed to in the Budapest memorandum.

    The sad reality is that thousands of Ukies are dying because Nato wanted to expand to Ukraine. So is it worth it?

    You’re a retrograde boomer who sees “Nazis” under every bed.

    There are many like that. But in Ukraine and Latvia the Nazis march in the streets, build monuments, re-write WW2 history, boast that they will do it again…as you do with your “post-1945 will now be reorganized“. We will see how, but you may not like it either. There are also many who think that you got off too easily after WW2 – it was you who re-opened it. You may come to regret it.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Beckow


    There are also many who think that you got off too easily after WW2 – it was you who re-opened it.
     
    Well, if they think that way, then they are supporters of mass murder. Let God judge them in that case.

    You are speaking complete utter nonsense now - worse than a Russian propagandist. They are more skilled than you. Putin was the one who re-opened the Pandora box due to his vanity and revanchism - when they in fact had it quite good prior to 2022.

    As to post-1945, this time, the German is on our side (but of course that's a nuance that you won't be able to fully grasp due to your brainwashed state about "the Nazis"). Do not look down on the German., he may still show himself. Both the Brit and the German are on our side this time. This is different from all the previous times.

  737. @S
    @songbird

    I think the Indians got the drop on the US forces...ie surprise. Also the troops seem to have been poorly led and demoralized. What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @songbird

    What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.

    Well, I think the Great Plains period of the American Indian Wars seems to have been more heavily romanticized.

    Whether that is down to its features (open skies and horseback) or more related to chronology (simultaneously promoted in theater and open air stage shows in major industrialized cities), who can say.

    Probably doesn’t hurt that a lot more people today identify as Sioux than Shawnee.

    • Replies: @S
    @songbird



    What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.
     
    Well, I think the Great Plains period of the American Indian Wars seems to have been more heavily romanticized.
     
    It was a major defeat, so I can see from that point alone why they don't talk about it much.

    As a related aside, on some of those old Los Angeles based quasi reality Adam-12 police show episodes from circa 1968, sometimes they'll check on an elderly person in their 80's, ie people born in the 1880's. And many times the person will have a photo of their parents on the living room wall. And you can tell by looking at these daguerotypes that these were depictions of 'pioneers' who had lived through the Indian Wars of the 1870's and 1880's. I've always found that to be kind of fascinating as those events were really not all that long ago, and that even in the 1960's there were people around who had a close connection to that time period.

    As for all the romanticizing I could live without it. It was a pretty brutal series of events all around.
  738. @LatW
    @Matra


    Anyway, it is still one of the best Canadian movies ever made
     
    I rewatched it, enjoyed it once again, and, yes, it is quite un-PC (using the 90s term), in many ways, a rather unflattering portrayal of the Natives. I'm also biased with this movie (because I oppose Christianization of indigenous peoples) but the movie was convincing enough that I felt sympathy for the Jesuit priest. The lead character is not super spectacular, but interesting, and I especially liked how the character was almost cast out from the rest of the group and the representation of his utter physical and spiritual loneliness and separateness on the background of these wild, menacing landscapes, which highlighted the seeming futility of his mission and maybe even the fragility of human life.

    So they get captured by Iroquois, not Algonquin - they are led by a group of Algonquin converts.

    And I liked the original masculinity that was shown in the brief scene with the small Motagnais group, it was meant to be in a negative light, but I personally found attractive (to see Indians that are not emasculated).


    in-depth Jesuit letters about their New France experiences was that the filmmaker had actually gone easy on the Indians.
     
    Maybe they did not present the physical barbarity as much, but they presented the Natives as very primitive spiritually and intellectually, as well as needlessly spiteful. I doubt they were that dumb or unaware (regardless the watch thing). Understand that they were under immense stress due to illness and tribal warfare. This is the one demographic where I will take the exception and not side with the Euros. That doesn't mean one can't admit the shortcomings of either side. The context here is also not so much Euro against Native, but different groups of Natives against each other, and different Euros against each other on a new continent (a rather brutal continent).

    The young squaw was portrayed in a good light.


    There was also one fairly condescending scene in which a French settler, who rejects the faith and goes off with an Indian woman, mocks Christian beliefs in a way that I thought was so 20th century in tone

     

    I actually liked that character because, he was able to both retain some of his European roots, but also accepted the wilderness and I also really liked his acceptance of human nature (he accepted his sexuality - in this wilderness, it helped him to survive to have a relationship). As to that conversation, I actually liked it too, it showed some tension between these different religions, world views. It showed that how well the native religion fits with such a wild landscape. Also, it showed the trial of the priest - among all the other trials he had to go through, even if the priest is a "bigoted Christian" - these kinds of scenes, where he was abandoned, both physically and his religion, shows his immense trial, his persistence.

    Him walking in a black robe the whole movie is a great visual element as well, especially in the background of the northern landscapes. It separates him from the landscape, accentuating his loneliness and abandonment, but also sets him apart as a willful actor attempting to overcome dominating and powerful Nature. The reappearing image of the She-Manitou is the symbol of the power of Nature and the old spirit of this land. But almost reminiscent of Mother Mary at times as her apparition lingers close to those who are going through a great ordeal or who are seeing visions or passing from this world. So it's a good juxtaposition of the two competing world views that still have the same female symbol at their core.

    I would say this movie is still non-woke, partly because it is French-Canadian (they probably were not as brainwashed yet) and also because it is quite old, made in 1991, before the real social liberalism took hold in North America. I think the mid to late 90s was in fact when it hit with full force and they must have skipped that or avoided just in time, since they made it right before the PC craze started for real.

    Definitely one of the movies that I've seen in my life that still sticks in my mind.

    Replies: @Matra

    I would say this movie is still non-woke, partly because it is French-Canadian (they probably were not as brainwashed yet)

    French-Canadians used to be more PC than Anglos but it is now the other way round. The movie was made by an Australian and was, as I mentioned, written by an Irish immigrant to Canada so it wasn’t really a French-Canadian movie in that respect. Anyway, you made some good points. I haven’t seen the movie since 1993 so I might rent it out to refresh my knowledge.

    Incidentally, the movie that is almost unanimously considered to be the best Canadian move ever made is Mon oncle Antoine (My Uncle Antoine) 1971. It is also in French and set in an area of Quebec called Thetford Mines and Irlande (then called Ireland). It is on YouTube but there are no English subtitles.

  739. @silviosilver
    @Matra


    Is the tweet below from the AaronGross who posts here as HeavilyMarbledSteak (or something similar) or I’m a mixing up my Jews?
     
    No, that's a different Aaron. I think it's the same guy I've seen posting as "Aaron in Israel" or something like that. Aaron Gross is your typical "anti-racist" bullshit artist.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Could very well be wrong, but it is actually pretty hard for me to imagine HMS on Twitter. Don’t think it fits his style, which is longform, and also he is someone who still reads novels. Don’t recall him ever linking to a tweet.

    • Agree: silviosilver
  740. @AnonfromTN
    @AP

    Keep evading. What else can your ilk do?

    Even usually mealy-mouthed UN Guterres acknowledged that in Gaza thousands of children are killed by Israel within a few weeks:
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143772
    Imperial mouthpiece NYT:
    The war turns Gaza into a graveyard of children
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/18/world/middleeast/gaza-children-israel.html
    Another mouthpiece The Guardian puts the death toll of Gaza children at 4,000
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/05/gazas-children-face-catastrophe-as-death-toll-nears-4000-un-warns
    AP news cites 3,600
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021
    And so on…

    But defenders of genocide are blind by choice.

    Replies: @AP

    AP news cites 3,600
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021
    And so on…

    “More than 3,600 Palestinian children were killed in the first 25 days of the war between Israel and Hamas, according to Gaza’s Hamas-run Health Ministry

    You are just another gullible boomer.

    I am sure the numbers are pretty high because Hamas is motivated to have as many civilians dead as possible (it is not like the Ukrainian government), this motivation also makes their claims rather suspect. We don’t have exact numbers yet.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    You are just another gullible boomer.
     
    I guess you mean that UN Guterres, as well as the editors and writers of NYT and The Guardian, and many others across the world (I gave very few examples, many more are all over the internet) are all gullible boomers? That may be news to them.

    Are they all sovoks, as well? After all, why not? Not too long ago Ukie media called German pro-Ukie super-hawk Julian Röpcke a Kremlin stooge just for showing a modicum of uncharacteristic common sense.

    Replies: @AP

  741. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    I didn’t read her text. But from reading history books about Israel which discuss about her famous texts, it seems after the war she continues to view the world from a perspective of German philosophy with maybe something like a personal Goethe-index for assessing cultural progress.

    Most people agree German culture until 1933 is beautiful. But aside not being very relevant for use by tourists in the Middle East, surely using any German “civilization index” to describe Israel seems unusual after 1933-45.
     
    Because it is not just about being a tourist. The question is, in so far as Israel claims to speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

    If Israeli culture and Western culture are deemed too far apart, then one can respond to this by either carrying out mental Israelisation or a distancing of oneself from the Israel that fell short.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one's own culture, the way the Jewish New York intellectuals of Commentary magazine and the like did.

    We can’t visit the old Israel of 1950s/1960s, to experience. But from the traces, it would probably feel more like in the Eastern than Western side of the Iron Curtain.

    It could have been almost half-way to non-Soviet Warsaw Pact countries in some ways, also more like a third world frontier and refugee camp in many of the areas.
     
    I don't disagree about the real conditions, I am just talking about what impression would the average Western person expect?

    Imagine Ruritanians, long oppressed, set out to establish a national state in South America (lets say in present day Suriname and Guyana). They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit... and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/south-america/argentina/articles/la-cumbrecita-argentina-secret-german-village/

    Somebody should go down to Argentina and do some interviews and ask the ethnic German residents-citizens what they think of the modern castrated German nation.

  742. @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    Tell your boyfriend, that prick Sudden Death , that when we are finished denazifying and demilitarising 404....I believe the reunification of the ancient Russian lands of Lithuania will be our next campaign.
    Lithuania isn't their name anyway - the new name or returned name of the state after we liberate will be Chyornarus, Black Russia.

    It's our land. Russian property. Belarus was always Belarus, Chyornarus was always Chyornarus. I will lobby the government to ensure Chyornarus does become what it says.............every Afghan,Somali, Eritrean, "persecuted" Chechen homo, OJ Simpson, Congan , Malawan, can come and seek refuge there, so that it does become a literal Black Russia.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @sudden death

    You will remain in this land forever (as fertilizer), rest assured.

    Btw, Ivan Grozny is not even fully Rus – his mother was half Lipka Tatar (so essentially a citizen of Lithuania), and half Serbian. Probably could not speak the Rus language of that time. Just like Tsar Nikolai’s wife who never spoke Russian (Nikolai spoke English to her). Nikolai spoke Russian with an accent (there’s an audio clip).

    “Аз есмь царь” (As esm’ tsar) – ever heard of this phrase? The tsars wore it etched on their ring – it’s pure Baltic speech (spoken even today).

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @LatW


    Btw, Ivan Grozny is not even fully Rus – his mother was half Lipka Tatar (so essentially a citizen of Lithuania)
     
    That is all true. In previous threads I did or was going to mention that his mother , who ruled Russia as reagent when Ivan was too young, was born in Cherkassy. So a ukrop was in power of something for the first and only time outside of the USSR era.

    Just like Tsar Nikolai’s wife who never spoke Russian
     
    Very common in all the actually RELEVANT countries, dickhead. Each of the important countries married somebody from the other with the same language issue. She would have converted to Russian Orthodox Church though. Note how many female rulers Russia had in comparison to every other "progressive" gayropa country also. France and plenty of the other banned them. UK executed one of them after 9 days.
  743. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Have you seen the bear worship ceremonies of the Anu footage in Joseph Campbell Bill Moyers Power Myth Ep 3? I am curious where on the spectrum of real deal to show for tourists it falls. Scroll to 16:28 and it's only minute of recording. I have watched it at least ten times although I only had the sound on once.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij5cJtYLkvE

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It’s called iomante “sending away a bear” or 熊送り くまおくり Kumaokuri, there’s similar practice by Finns that probably has a common origin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peijaiset

  744. @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    Tell your boyfriend, that prick Sudden Death , that when we are finished denazifying and demilitarising 404....I believe the reunification of the ancient Russian lands of Lithuania will be our next campaign.
    Lithuania isn't their name anyway - the new name or returned name of the state after we liberate will be Chyornarus, Black Russia.

    It's our land. Russian property. Belarus was always Belarus, Chyornarus was always Chyornarus. I will lobby the government to ensure Chyornarus does become what it says.............every Afghan,Somali, Eritrean, "persecuted" Chechen homo, OJ Simpson, Congan , Malawan, can come and seek refuge there, so that it does become a literal Black Russia.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @sudden death

    Speaking of boyfriends & husbands, the wives are truly desperate now. As you can see from this documentary, it is not just ex-cons that they are sending to the front lines, no, they are sending normal middle class muzhiks. Most likely paid ones who wanted to make some extra cash by murdering people in a neighboring country – and now they are stuck there. The children want their dads. A good husband is actually not that easy to replace, especially if he’s the father of your children.

  745. @Beckow
    @LatW


    ...nothing wrong with being angry about injustice and murder of innocents...country being violently partitioned is a legitimate source of righteous anger.
     
    Gaza? Donbas? Serbia? Iraq? Syria? You must be angry a lot...

    Judging wars only on moral grounds is a mistake. Morality is subjective as we see from your one-sided comments. Wars are too bloody and disruptive to hide in moral cliches.

    The only question is: what is the war fought over? Is it a reason to die and to destroy a country? All the other stuff is hot air, deceptions, lies, palliatives, posturing.

    People pretend to disagree that the war is about the attempted Nato expansion to Ukraine, it is too painful. All wars have multiple reasons, but the Nato expansion is the sine qua non - nobody in their right mind argues that there would be the war without it. As late as April 2022 the war could have been ended with Kiev agreeing to neutrality - as they agreed to in the Budapest memorandum.

    The sad reality is that thousands of Ukies are dying because Nato wanted to expand to Ukraine. So is it worth it?


    You’re a retrograde boomer who sees “Nazis” under every bed.
     
    There are many like that. But in Ukraine and Latvia the Nazis march in the streets, build monuments, re-write WW2 history, boast that they will do it again...as you do with your "post-1945 will now be reorganized". We will see how, but you may not like it either. There are also many who think that you got off too easily after WW2 - it was you who re-opened it. You may come to regret it.

    Replies: @LatW

    There are also many who think that you got off too easily after WW2 – it was you who re-opened it.

    Well, if they think that way, then they are supporters of mass murder. Let God judge them in that case.

    You are speaking complete utter nonsense now – worse than a Russian propagandist. They are more skilled than you. Putin was the one who re-opened the Pandora box due to his vanity and revanchism – when they in fact had it quite good prior to 2022.

    As to post-1945, this time, the German is on our side (but of course that’s a nuance that you won’t be able to fully grasp due to your brainwashed state about “the Nazis”). Do not look down on the German., he may still show himself. Both the Brit and the German are on our side this time. This is different from all the previous times.

  746. @LatW
    @AP


    It’s some weird antinatilist emphasis on the popular culture that presents pregnancy as somehow unpleasant.
     
    Pregnancy can be quite pleasant, in the first trimester one can barely feel anything (some women don't have morning sickness, although I guess most do, also the woman's hair can get super beautiful), only the end of the last trimester can be a bit tough, but at that point you feel the baby moving all the time, which is exciting and gratifying. Pregnancy is pleasant, but the labor is very difficult. And what follows right after the labor. LOL

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    And what follows right after the labor. LOL

    Taking care of the baby?

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ

    Babies are adorable, but they like waking up every 2-3 hours. :) Thankfully, that ends after 6-8 months and they start sleeping through the night.

    Also, there are ways to trick toddlers - when a toddler throws one of their fits, do not try to appease them or calm them down (futile). Find another "object of interest" to show them - this will divert their attention to something new and exciting and they might stop screaming. They barely have any impulse control. Anyway, all this craziness ends at age 3 and a half or 4. So it won't last forever. LOL

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

  747. @silviosilver
    @Matra


    Is the tweet below from the AaronGross who posts here as HeavilyMarbledSteak (or something similar) or I’m a mixing up my Jews?
     
    No, that's a different Aaron. I think it's the same guy I've seen posting as "Aaron in Israel" or something like that. Aaron Gross is your typical "anti-racist" bullshit artist.

    Replies: @songbird, @AP

    Aaron Gross never mentioned Utah, or David Bentley Hart. So he is not our Aaron.

    • LOL: silviosilver
  748. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    AP news cites 3,600
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021
    And so on…
     
    “More than 3,600 Palestinian children were killed in the first 25 days of the war between Israel and Hamas, according to Gaza’s Hamas-run Health Ministry

    You are just another gullible boomer.

    I am sure the numbers are pretty high because Hamas is motivated to have as many civilians dead as possible (it is not like the Ukrainian government), this motivation also makes their claims rather suspect. We don’t have exact numbers yet.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    You are just another gullible boomer.

    I guess you mean that UN Guterres, as well as the editors and writers of NYT and The Guardian, and many others across the world (I gave very few examples, many more are all over the internet) are all gullible boomers? That may be news to them.

    Are they all sovoks, as well? After all, why not? Not too long ago Ukie media called German pro-Ukie super-hawk Julian Röpcke a Kremlin stooge just for showing a modicum of uncharacteristic common sense.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    I guess you mean that UN Guterres, as well as the editors and writers of NYT and The Guardian, and many others across the world (I gave very few examples, many more are all over the internet) are all gullible boomers
     
    Guterres is a politician, UN hasn’t issued its findings yet. I posted that your media source stated clearly that this was a claim by Hamas.

    As a gullible Russian boomer, you believe them. No better than American boomers believing Saddam had WMD back in the day.

    Again. I do t doubt they there were many casualties. Hamas wants as many as possible, they don’t evacuate much - it’s why they inflate their numbers.

    Replies: @German_reader

  749. @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    And what follows right after the labor. LOL
     
    Taking care of the baby?

    Replies: @LatW

    Babies are adorable, but they like waking up every 2-3 hours. 🙂 Thankfully, that ends after 6-8 months and they start sleeping through the night.

    Also, there are ways to trick toddlers – when a toddler throws one of their fits, do not try to appease them or calm them down (futile). Find another “object of interest” to show them – this will divert their attention to something new and exciting and they might stop screaming. They barely have any impulse control. Anyway, all this craziness ends at age 3 and a half or 4. So it won’t last forever. LOL

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Anyway, all this craziness ends at age 3 and a half or 4.
     
    some people do honestly remind me of toddlers well into middle age.

    Tempting but probably illogical to blame the mother during this period for cosseting them. More likely something physiological. I would call them "high-strung."

    But I do think it is a solid bet that they were really terrible back then.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW

    Do you have any babies of your own?

  750. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ

    Babies are adorable, but they like waking up every 2-3 hours. :) Thankfully, that ends after 6-8 months and they start sleeping through the night.

    Also, there are ways to trick toddlers - when a toddler throws one of their fits, do not try to appease them or calm them down (futile). Find another "object of interest" to show them - this will divert their attention to something new and exciting and they might stop screaming. They barely have any impulse control. Anyway, all this craziness ends at age 3 and a half or 4. So it won't last forever. LOL

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Anyway, all this craziness ends at age 3 and a half or 4.

    some people do honestly remind me of toddlers well into middle age.

    Tempting but probably illogical to blame the mother during this period for cosseting them. More likely something physiological. I would call them “high-strung.”

    But I do think it is a solid bet that they were really terrible back then.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    some people do honestly remind me of toddlers well into middle age.
     
    Well, at least they don't scream or roll on the ground (with some exceptions). :)

    How do you like that expression "May you never lose your inner child!"... :) I think it's meant well.

    Tempting but probably illogical to blame the mother during this period for cosseting them.
     
    Well, blaming the mother should be avoided in general, for civilizational purposes - it is already hard enough to be a mother, do not add to that. And it's not even true - for example, boys who are taken good care of and whose moms are very doting, actually do better in life. They might be a little bit more mellow and even more timid than what a boy should be, but they are more successful in life. Boys who have been neglected, do not do well. Girls are probably more conscientious about acting according to the rules.

    To be honest, the mother may not always have all that much control past a certain age. Some men are just out of control - even if they had good moms (and good dads). Parents can be vulnerable at times.

    But I do think it is a solid bet that they were really terrible back then.
     
    There could be stages based on age - life stages, for example in your 20s, you are maximalist and care about your success and how you are perceived, whereas some older people stop caring. They're more relaxed. Maybe they've been hit by life a few times and take things much easier than in their youth.
  751. @songbird
    @S


    What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.
     
    Well, I think the Great Plains period of the American Indian Wars seems to have been more heavily romanticized.

    Whether that is down to its features (open skies and horseback) or more related to chronology (simultaneously promoted in theater and open air stage shows in major industrialized cities), who can say.

    Probably doesn't hurt that a lot more people today identify as Sioux than Shawnee.

    Replies: @S

    What I find interesting is how little known the battle is.

    Well, I think the Great Plains period of the American Indian Wars seems to have been more heavily romanticized.

    It was a major defeat, so I can see from that point alone why they don’t talk about it much.

    As a related aside, on some of those old Los Angeles based quasi reality Adam-12 police show episodes from circa 1968, sometimes they’ll check on an elderly person in their 80’s, ie people born in the 1880’s. And many times the person will have a photo of their parents on the living room wall. And you can tell by looking at these daguerotypes that these were depictions of ‘pioneers’ who had lived through the Indian Wars of the 1870’s and 1880’s. I’ve always found that to be kind of fascinating as those events were really not all that long ago, and that even in the 1960’s there were people around who had a close connection to that time period.

    As for all the romanticizing I could live without it. It was a pretty brutal series of events all around.

  752. https://ia802603.us.archive.org/2/items/pdfy-G6vZW2zflmdELMlu/Victor%20Marchetti%20%26%20John%20Marks%20-%20CIA%20%26%20The%20Cult%20of%20Intelligence.pdf

    Victor Marchetti and John Marks
    The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence

    [MORE]

    See this interview Jesse Michaels Diana Pasulka, Maybe not during or right after eating. The cult vibrations are strong with these two. For example, since he started studying UFO’s Jesse Michaels has stopped drinking alcohol. Diana Pasulka says UFO’s are going to be the new global religion. Hoo boy.

    These guys have a discussion of every talk at the Stanford Sol Foundation Symposium on UFO’s. I have only made it to the 60 minute mark but so far nobody said one single new thing and they have already covered all the hard science (their description–I wouldn’t call it that) talks.

    On their page where they said none of us losers were invited Sol Foundation claimed they were going to release everything to the public. This was 7 November and they haven’t released jack. The above youtube from attendees is the only thing I have found so far.

  753. @QCIC
    @Beckow

    I doubt Russia has the energy or desire to remake most of Ukraine. I expect they will place most of the country under 'protective custody' of some sort. The degree to which this is onerous will be based on how zealous the Ukrainian nationalists want to be combined with how much outside Western support and empowerment they receive. I imagine Russia hopes to slightly change the hearts and minds in the big cities expecting this attitude adjustment to gradually diffuse through the population.

    If Russia can rebalance her economy and then gradually re-integrate with parts of the Ukrainian economy the prosperity in both countries may not be much different from the EU after a decade. I wonder if they will start with a strong CIS agricultural union since that seems important and easy...except for the mine clearing :(

    Replies: @LatW, @Beckow

    …Russia has the energy or desire to remake most of Ukraine. I expect they will place most of the country under ‘protective custody’

    It’s going to be rough. Business will stay away, people will scatter, everyone will be angry at something – LatW is angry already. Regrets and looking for whose fault it was. This time nobody really wants to rebuild Ukraine, people are mobile, many more will leave.

    A possible scenario is a three-way split: Russian part in the east and along Black Sea, Western die-hards around Galicia, and the biggest in central Ukraine with Kiev. I don’t think chunks will go to Poland or the others, it wouldn’t be clean. EU and Nato will go quiet: there is no gain anymore so why bother? And it would cost a lot of money. Russia could surprise by offering a “brotherly” deal, Putin is a sentimental softie.

    Arestovich gave an interview blaming the West for its lack support. He started to create a new vague platform of Ukraine first! – “neither Nato, nor Russia, back to the multi-cultural Ukraine with Russians again equal“…it is the Yanuk’s and Kuchma’s Ukraine of the past. Something like that will re-emerge in the center. But it will be messy. Ukraine will never be what it could have been…but Nuland brought cookies, so it will be allright…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Arestovich gave an interview blaming the West for its lack support. He started to create a new vague platform of Ukraine first! – “neither Nato, nor Russia, back to the multi-cultural Ukraine with Russians again equal“…it is the Yanuk’s and Kuchma’s Ukraine of the past. Something like that will re-emerge in the center.
     
    You demonstrate your cluelessness again.

    Arestovich’s words have nothing in common with attitudes in the center, which have totally converged with Galicia and which even before the war disliked Kuchma and Yanukovich. He may be trying to become the voice of Kharkiv of Odessa though even there, it is questionable.

    As a the Russian-speaking descendant of a Russian mother and a Belarusian Polish nobleman father he would best work as a head of liberated Belarus.

    Replies: @Beckow

  754. @songbird
    @LatW


    Anyway, all this craziness ends at age 3 and a half or 4.
     
    some people do honestly remind me of toddlers well into middle age.

    Tempting but probably illogical to blame the mother during this period for cosseting them. More likely something physiological. I would call them "high-strung."

    But I do think it is a solid bet that they were really terrible back then.

    Replies: @LatW

    some people do honestly remind me of toddlers well into middle age.

    Well, at least they don’t scream or roll on the ground (with some exceptions). 🙂

    How do you like that expression “May you never lose your inner child!”… 🙂 I think it’s meant well.

    Tempting but probably illogical to blame the mother during this period for cosseting them.

    Well, blaming the mother should be avoided in general, for civilizational purposes – it is already hard enough to be a mother, do not add to that. And it’s not even true – for example, boys who are taken good care of and whose moms are very doting, actually do better in life. They might be a little bit more mellow and even more timid than what a boy should be, but they are more successful in life. Boys who have been neglected, do not do well. Girls are probably more conscientious about acting according to the rules.

    To be honest, the mother may not always have all that much control past a certain age. Some men are just out of control – even if they had good moms (and good dads). Parents can be vulnerable at times.

    But I do think it is a solid bet that they were really terrible back then.

    There could be stages based on age – life stages, for example in your 20s, you are maximalist and care about your success and how you are perceived, whereas some older people stop caring. They’re more relaxed. Maybe they’ve been hit by life a few times and take things much easier than in their youth.

  755. @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    You are just another gullible boomer.
     
    I guess you mean that UN Guterres, as well as the editors and writers of NYT and The Guardian, and many others across the world (I gave very few examples, many more are all over the internet) are all gullible boomers? That may be news to them.

    Are they all sovoks, as well? After all, why not? Not too long ago Ukie media called German pro-Ukie super-hawk Julian Röpcke a Kremlin stooge just for showing a modicum of uncharacteristic common sense.

    Replies: @AP

    I guess you mean that UN Guterres, as well as the editors and writers of NYT and The Guardian, and many others across the world (I gave very few examples, many more are all over the internet) are all gullible boomers

    Guterres is a politician, UN hasn’t issued its findings yet. I posted that your media source stated clearly that this was a claim by Hamas.

    As a gullible Russian boomer, you believe them. No better than American boomers believing Saddam had WMD back in the day.

    Again. I do t doubt they there were many casualties. Hamas wants as many as possible, they don’t evacuate much – it’s why they inflate their numbers.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @AP


    they don’t evacuate much
     
    Evacuate where to? It's not like southern Gaza is safe, and the borders of the territory are sealed (unlike for Ukrainians who had the option of going to the EU).
    There's also the issue that Israeli politicians are quite openly talking about their desire to carry out a huge ethnic cleansing operation. Hard not to get the impression that a key goal of the current operation is to render large parts of Gaza unlivable (supposedly two thirds of the housing stock in northern Gaza have already been severely damaged or outright destroyed). Killing large numbers of civilians is a feature, not a bug in that regard. Plenty of indications that Israeli forces are also committing serious war crimes on the ground (e. g. the Latin patriarch recently complained about Israeli snipers having killed two Christian women in a church courtyard, hard to dismiss that as Hamas propaganda). The recent "friendly fire" incident with the hostages was also telling, looks like the logic might be "We've given evacuation orders, anybody still here is a terrorist and will be shot on sight".
    AnonfromTN may be a Sovok boomer, but his interpretation is beginning to be backed up even by Western msm:
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-bombs-destruction-death-toll-scope-419488c511f83c85baea22458472a796

    Anyway, for the West this is a moral and diplomatic disaster, given how much of this is enabled by the support of the US (which is literally sending bombs and artillery shells to Israel for this war) and other Western powers. All of that talk about Russia's "genocide" and "war of annihilation" in Ukraine was always hyperbolic propaganda, but looks like hypocrisy of the worst sort now. I usually don't have much sympathy for Arabs and Muslims or people from the "Global South" complaining about racism, but unfortunately they do have a point about double standards in this regard, and obviously that will have repercussions on other issues too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123, @AP

  756. German_reader says:
    @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    I guess you mean that UN Guterres, as well as the editors and writers of NYT and The Guardian, and many others across the world (I gave very few examples, many more are all over the internet) are all gullible boomers
     
    Guterres is a politician, UN hasn’t issued its findings yet. I posted that your media source stated clearly that this was a claim by Hamas.

    As a gullible Russian boomer, you believe them. No better than American boomers believing Saddam had WMD back in the day.

    Again. I do t doubt they there were many casualties. Hamas wants as many as possible, they don’t evacuate much - it’s why they inflate their numbers.

    Replies: @German_reader

    they don’t evacuate much

    Evacuate where to? It’s not like southern Gaza is safe, and the borders of the territory are sealed (unlike for Ukrainians who had the option of going to the EU).
    There’s also the issue that Israeli politicians are quite openly talking about their desire to carry out a huge ethnic cleansing operation. Hard not to get the impression that a key goal of the current operation is to render large parts of Gaza unlivable (supposedly two thirds of the housing stock in northern Gaza have already been severely damaged or outright destroyed). Killing large numbers of civilians is a feature, not a bug in that regard. Plenty of indications that Israeli forces are also committing serious war crimes on the ground (e. g. the Latin patriarch recently complained about Israeli snipers having killed two Christian women in a church courtyard, hard to dismiss that as Hamas propaganda). The recent “friendly fire” incident with the hostages was also telling, looks like the logic might be “We’ve given evacuation orders, anybody still here is a terrorist and will be shot on sight”.
    AnonfromTN may be a Sovok boomer, but his interpretation is beginning to be backed up even by Western msm:
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-bombs-destruction-death-toll-scope-419488c511f83c85baea22458472a796

    Anyway, for the West this is a moral and diplomatic disaster, given how much of this is enabled by the support of the US (which is literally sending bombs and artillery shells to Israel for this war) and other Western powers. All of that talk about Russia’s “genocide” and “war of annihilation” in Ukraine was always hyperbolic propaganda, but looks like hypocrisy of the worst sort now. I usually don’t have much sympathy for Arabs and Muslims or people from the “Global South” complaining about racism, but unfortunately they do have a point about double standards in this regard, and obviously that will have repercussions on other issues too.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @German_reader


    ...a point about double standards...that will have repercussions on other issues too.
     
    Double standards can't exist, it is an oxymoron - it is contrary to the definition of what a standard is. They actually have no standards, it is just situational morality that translates into "we can, and they can't."

    Israel is doing a genocide in Gaza - they want the Palis out. There is no way they could do it without the support of US-EU leaders. Biden and Macron are asking Israel to time-box the genocide, to be done by January, maybe kill fewer Palis, allow some food, etc...This is absolutely bizarre, how do they expect to "lead the world" after this? The repercussions have already been massive.

    The EU blondie lady flew to Israel to show her full support... AP here is lost in the contradictions, as always he does his idiotic "they are lying!" shtick.

    Now the world's premier democracy is removing Trump from the ballot...absolutely brilliant over-reach. Maybe they sense their end is near and all restraint is gone. 2024 could be an interesting year.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @A123
    @German_reader


    Hard not to get the impression that a key goal of the current operation is to render large parts of Gaza unlivable (supposedly two thirds of the housing stock in northern Gaza have already been severely damaged or outright destroyed).
     
    Hamas intentionally comingles civilian and military facilities. Many witnesses have openly admitted that Jihadist combat operations are launched from hospitals. Sadly, destroying Hamas bunkers and munitions depots means that attached structures also are wiped out.

    How else is the IDF supposed to fight such a degenerate foe?

    Violent Muslims in Gaza played the "victim card" one too many times, and
    their bluff has been called. The vast majority of Palestinian Jews, regardless of political party, are unified in fighting terror until Hamas is broken. The SJW Fake Stream Media keeps playing up weird, unbelievable exceptions in an attempt to serve anti-Semitic left/globalism.

    Hamas occupiers of Gaza are the only side advocating genocide. Their motto is Judenfrei from the River to the Sea. Anyone suggesting a one state solution is complicit in Muslim plans for ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Jews.

    PEACE 😇
    , @AP
    @German_reader


    they don’t evacuate much

    Evacuate where to? It’s not like southern Gaza is safe
     
    It’s a lot safer than northern Gaza.

    Israel was attacked rather brutally from Gaza, it decided to kill Hamas which was responsible for that brutal attack, Hamas chose to hide among civilians and tried to prevent evacuation by those civilians as Israel attacked, as a result Israel was faced with 2 choices:

    1. Eliminate the attackers who invaded Israel, slaughtered a bunch of people and declared that they would keep doing that if not stopped, at the cost of civilian life, who are often the relatives and supporters of those very murderers. But experience a global PR disaster.

    2. Decide to reward the murderers for hiding amongst civilians by letting them get away with the crime for fear of loss of civilian life, and giving them a chance to do it again.

    It’s not an easy choice, and the Israelis are of course far from being angels. In the overall conflict they are barely if at all better than their enemies, but in this specific series of events starting from October 7th, Hamas are more the villains.

    There’s also the issue that Israeli politicians are quite openly talking about their desire to carry out a huge ethnic cleansing operation

     

    After the over the top brutality on October 7 such rhetoric is expected. I remember the US after 9-11.

    Anyway, for the West this is a moral and diplomatic disaster
     
    Agree. Hamas leaders sacrificed their own people for the sake of screwing the West. For their sake I hope they were at least generously compensated by Iran or Russia or whoever else benefited from their incredibly brutal incursion into Israel and what followed.
  757. @German_reader
    @AP


    they don’t evacuate much
     
    Evacuate where to? It's not like southern Gaza is safe, and the borders of the territory are sealed (unlike for Ukrainians who had the option of going to the EU).
    There's also the issue that Israeli politicians are quite openly talking about their desire to carry out a huge ethnic cleansing operation. Hard not to get the impression that a key goal of the current operation is to render large parts of Gaza unlivable (supposedly two thirds of the housing stock in northern Gaza have already been severely damaged or outright destroyed). Killing large numbers of civilians is a feature, not a bug in that regard. Plenty of indications that Israeli forces are also committing serious war crimes on the ground (e. g. the Latin patriarch recently complained about Israeli snipers having killed two Christian women in a church courtyard, hard to dismiss that as Hamas propaganda). The recent "friendly fire" incident with the hostages was also telling, looks like the logic might be "We've given evacuation orders, anybody still here is a terrorist and will be shot on sight".
    AnonfromTN may be a Sovok boomer, but his interpretation is beginning to be backed up even by Western msm:
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-bombs-destruction-death-toll-scope-419488c511f83c85baea22458472a796

    Anyway, for the West this is a moral and diplomatic disaster, given how much of this is enabled by the support of the US (which is literally sending bombs and artillery shells to Israel for this war) and other Western powers. All of that talk about Russia's "genocide" and "war of annihilation" in Ukraine was always hyperbolic propaganda, but looks like hypocrisy of the worst sort now. I usually don't have much sympathy for Arabs and Muslims or people from the "Global South" complaining about racism, but unfortunately they do have a point about double standards in this regard, and obviously that will have repercussions on other issues too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123, @AP

    …a point about double standards…that will have repercussions on other issues too.

    Double standards can’t exist, it is an oxymoron – it is contrary to the definition of what a standard is. They actually have no standards, it is just situational morality that translates into “we can, and they can’t.”

    Israel is doing a genocide in Gaza – they want the Palis out. There is no way they could do it without the support of US-EU leaders. Biden and Macron are asking Israel to time-box the genocide, to be done by January, maybe kill fewer Palis, allow some food, etc…This is absolutely bizarre, how do they expect to “lead the world” after this? The repercussions have already been massive.

    The EU blondie lady flew to Israel to show her full support… AP here is lost in the contradictions, as always he does his idiotic “they are lying!” shtick.

    Now the world’s premier democracy is removing Trump from the ballot…absolutely brilliant over-reach. Maybe they sense their end is near and all restraint is gone. 2024 could be an interesting year.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Beckow


    Israel is doing a genocide in Gaza
     
    I wouldn't call it a genocide, but potentially at least it's certainly a lot closer to genocide than anything Russia has done in Ukraine so far.
    I still think you're overly biased yourself with your pro-Russian views, but I have to agree that Western credibility has sunk to new depths recently.

    Replies: @Beckow

  758. German_reader says:
    @Beckow
    @German_reader


    ...a point about double standards...that will have repercussions on other issues too.
     
    Double standards can't exist, it is an oxymoron - it is contrary to the definition of what a standard is. They actually have no standards, it is just situational morality that translates into "we can, and they can't."

    Israel is doing a genocide in Gaza - they want the Palis out. There is no way they could do it without the support of US-EU leaders. Biden and Macron are asking Israel to time-box the genocide, to be done by January, maybe kill fewer Palis, allow some food, etc...This is absolutely bizarre, how do they expect to "lead the world" after this? The repercussions have already been massive.

    The EU blondie lady flew to Israel to show her full support... AP here is lost in the contradictions, as always he does his idiotic "they are lying!" shtick.

    Now the world's premier democracy is removing Trump from the ballot...absolutely brilliant over-reach. Maybe they sense their end is near and all restraint is gone. 2024 could be an interesting year.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Israel is doing a genocide in Gaza

    I wouldn’t call it a genocide, but potentially at least it’s certainly a lot closer to genocide than anything Russia has done in Ukraine so far.
    I still think you’re overly biased yourself with your pro-Russian views, but I have to agree that Western credibility has sunk to new depths recently.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @German_reader

    What is it then, half-a-genocide? Violent expulsion? An angry temper-tantrum with a lot of killing?

    The West is in a mental cul-de-sac: their biases - your favorite word :) - have collided with their morality. There is no way back, it is now one or the other.

    Israel wants to power through it and so does Kiev-Nato. Even if they do, their morality and credibility are gone. The West now depends on hard power, on bayonets and the willingness to use them.

    Napoleon said: you can do a lot with bayonets, except sit on them...this is just the beginning. In the world of hard power the relatively soft West will not be able to dominate as much as before. That is what is going on, and biases are irrelevant.

  759. Evacuate where to?

    Exactly. Besides, the idea that Hamas benefits from having their women and children killed is like the idea that Zelensky benefits from having Ukrainian women and children killed. Not untrue, in a certain sense, but quite nonsensical as a general argument, absent categorical proof that they are purposefully using their relatives and kinsmen as human shields. And even if that was the case, the footage of totally leveled neighborhoods in Gaza clearly shows that the Israelis don’t care about causing massive damage to civilians for their military goals. Regardless of how much it benefits Hamas, it’s difficult to imagine an innocent fatality toll that doesn’t run in the thousands.

    I’m getting exhausted with the brainless pro-Israeli propaganda of all the major right-wing radio hosts in this country, btw. 2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program and he was still discussing how horrendous the slogan “From the river to the sea” is. The very same topic that got me tired 3 months ago and made me switch to woke NPR (!) during my morning drives. Basically, what I see is a concerted, non-stop effort in the US to ensure that anybody who feels uncomfortable with the idea of thousands of children killed by the Israelis feel bad about themselves. We are the problem, not Israel’s actions.

    • Agree: silviosilver
    • Replies: @A123
    @Mikel


    2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program and he was still discussing how horrendous the slogan “From the river to the sea” is. The very same topic that got me tired 3 months ago

     

    The Truth must be repeated because it is true. Everyone needs to understand that Hamas is totally committed to ethnic cleansing. Repeating the Truth may be tiring, but you should understand why it is necessary.

    anybody who feels uncomfortable with the idea of thousands of children killed by the Israelis feel bad about themselves
     
    Those who support Hamas use of Muslim children as human shields should feel uncomfortable. They need to accurately cast the blame on the Jihadists who created the problem. Especially distant Hamas leadership in places like Qatar and Iran.

    What is gained by defaming Palestinian Jews, who are desperately defending their families from Islamist aggression?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @silviosilver

    , @AP
    @Mikel


    Besides, the idea that Hamas benefits from having their women and children killed is like the idea that Zelensky benefits from having Ukrainian women and children killed
     
    Both are true in the sense that it is bad PR for their opponents. The difference though is that while Hamas seems to feel that this is a price worth paying because they don’t value their own peoples lives much (they openly embrace this), so they do not try hard to evacuate people, the Ukrainian government does actually try to evacuate people when the fighting gets near them.

    If the Ukrainian government placed PR above human lives it would try to keep as many people as possible, especially children, in frontline areas rather then evacuate them if Russians approach and the front moves in their direction. That would make for a lot of shocking pictures.

    Ukraine would also try not to evacuate people, if it was really motivated to ethnically cleanse Russian-speaking people as some of its Russian detractors claim.


    absent categorical proof that they are purposefully using their relatives and kinsmen as human shields
     
    Hasn’t it been proven that Hamas put its base underneath a hospital?

    And this:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-tells-gaza-residents-stay-home-israel-ground-offensive-looms-2023-10-13/

    “Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday, in defiance of an Israeli military call for more than a million civilians to move south within 24 hours in the build-up to its expected ground offensive.

    Leaders of the enclave's governing militant group Hamas also urged Palestinians to ignore the call, and by Friday afternoon there were no signs of any mass exodus from the north of the enclave”


    And even if that was the case, the footage of totally leveled neighborhoods in Gaza clearly shows that the Israelis don’t care about causing massive damage to civilians for their military goals

     

    They care enough to urge evacuation, warn the population, and give some time to evacuate, but not enough to cancel their offensive if Hamas refuses to cooperate with evacuation and chooses to use Gazans as human shields. They will blame Hamas for all subsequent deaths and do not hesitate to blast through Hamas human shields in order to kill Hamas. They are rather callous and only care a little bit more about Gazan civilian lives than do Hamas.

    2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program
     
    Why would you do this to yourself?

    Replies: @Mikel

  760. @German_reader
    @Beckow


    Israel is doing a genocide in Gaza
     
    I wouldn't call it a genocide, but potentially at least it's certainly a lot closer to genocide than anything Russia has done in Ukraine so far.
    I still think you're overly biased yourself with your pro-Russian views, but I have to agree that Western credibility has sunk to new depths recently.

    Replies: @Beckow

    What is it then, half-a-genocide? Violent expulsion? An angry temper-tantrum with a lot of killing?

    The West is in a mental cul-de-sac: their biases – your favorite word 🙂 – have collided with their morality. There is no way back, it is now one or the other.

    Israel wants to power through it and so does Kiev-Nato. Even if they do, their morality and credibility are gone. The West now depends on hard power, on bayonets and the willingness to use them.

    Napoleon said: you can do a lot with bayonets, except sit on them…this is just the beginning. In the world of hard power the relatively soft West will not be able to dominate as much as before. That is what is going on, and biases are irrelevant.

  761. @German_reader
    @AP


    they don’t evacuate much
     
    Evacuate where to? It's not like southern Gaza is safe, and the borders of the territory are sealed (unlike for Ukrainians who had the option of going to the EU).
    There's also the issue that Israeli politicians are quite openly talking about their desire to carry out a huge ethnic cleansing operation. Hard not to get the impression that a key goal of the current operation is to render large parts of Gaza unlivable (supposedly two thirds of the housing stock in northern Gaza have already been severely damaged or outright destroyed). Killing large numbers of civilians is a feature, not a bug in that regard. Plenty of indications that Israeli forces are also committing serious war crimes on the ground (e. g. the Latin patriarch recently complained about Israeli snipers having killed two Christian women in a church courtyard, hard to dismiss that as Hamas propaganda). The recent "friendly fire" incident with the hostages was also telling, looks like the logic might be "We've given evacuation orders, anybody still here is a terrorist and will be shot on sight".
    AnonfromTN may be a Sovok boomer, but his interpretation is beginning to be backed up even by Western msm:
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-bombs-destruction-death-toll-scope-419488c511f83c85baea22458472a796

    Anyway, for the West this is a moral and diplomatic disaster, given how much of this is enabled by the support of the US (which is literally sending bombs and artillery shells to Israel for this war) and other Western powers. All of that talk about Russia's "genocide" and "war of annihilation" in Ukraine was always hyperbolic propaganda, but looks like hypocrisy of the worst sort now. I usually don't have much sympathy for Arabs and Muslims or people from the "Global South" complaining about racism, but unfortunately they do have a point about double standards in this regard, and obviously that will have repercussions on other issues too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123, @AP

    Hard not to get the impression that a key goal of the current operation is to render large parts of Gaza unlivable (supposedly two thirds of the housing stock in northern Gaza have already been severely damaged or outright destroyed).

    Hamas intentionally comingles civilian and military facilities. Many witnesses have openly admitted that Jihadist combat operations are launched from hospitals. Sadly, destroying Hamas bunkers and munitions depots means that attached structures also are wiped out.

    How else is the IDF supposed to fight such a degenerate foe?

    Violent Muslims in Gaza played the “victim card” one too many times, and
    their bluff has been called. The vast majority of Palestinian Jews, regardless of political party, are unified in fighting terror until Hamas is broken. The SJW Fake Stream Media keeps playing up weird, unbelievable exceptions in an attempt to serve anti-Semitic left/globalism.

    Hamas occupiers of Gaza are the only side advocating genocide. Their motto is Judenfrei from the River to the Sea. Anyone suggesting a one state solution is complicit in Muslim plans for ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Jews.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: silviosilver
  762. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    ...Russia has the energy or desire to remake most of Ukraine. I expect they will place most of the country under ‘protective custody’
     
    It's going to be rough. Business will stay away, people will scatter, everyone will be angry at something - LatW is angry already. Regrets and looking for whose fault it was. This time nobody really wants to rebuild Ukraine, people are mobile, many more will leave.

    A possible scenario is a three-way split: Russian part in the east and along Black Sea, Western die-hards around Galicia, and the biggest in central Ukraine with Kiev. I don't think chunks will go to Poland or the others, it wouldn't be clean. EU and Nato will go quiet: there is no gain anymore so why bother? And it would cost a lot of money. Russia could surprise by offering a "brotherly" deal, Putin is a sentimental softie.

    Arestovich gave an interview blaming the West for its lack support. He started to create a new vague platform of Ukraine first! - "neither Nato, nor Russia, back to the multi-cultural Ukraine with Russians again equal"...it is the Yanuk's and Kuchma's Ukraine of the past. Something like that will re-emerge in the center. But it will be messy. Ukraine will never be what it could have been...but Nuland brought cookies, so it will be allright...

    Replies: @AP

    Arestovich gave an interview blaming the West for its lack support. He started to create a new vague platform of Ukraine first! – “neither Nato, nor Russia, back to the multi-cultural Ukraine with Russians again equal“…it is the Yanuk’s and Kuchma’s Ukraine of the past. Something like that will re-emerge in the center.

    You demonstrate your cluelessness again.

    Arestovich’s words have nothing in common with attitudes in the center, which have totally converged with Galicia and which even before the war disliked Kuchma and Yanukovich. He may be trying to become the voice of Kharkiv of Odessa though even there, it is questionable.

    As a the Russian-speaking descendant of a Russian mother and a Belarusian Polish nobleman father he would best work as a head of liberated Belarus.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    You are wrong about where the central Ukraine will go - the region is too strategic for Russia to allow outright hostility. Galicia is of little interest, remote and non-strategic, they will probably let it be.

    Russia will make the rules after the war and Kiev will be more like the south-east than like Galicia. I told you that for anti-Russia-in-Nato to be created, Kiev would have to win the war. But they are losing.

    Arestovich was a high-level radical war supporter - he has now changed his views. People are slowly sobering up, the smarter ones first, then the career oriented mid-wits, then the ordinary people followed by the unthinking dumbos...and then towards the end will people like you come around...

    You will come up with a cacamonie self-justification, maybe a combination of "but Lviv is now the true Ukraine", the exiles will rebuild it all, and schadenfreude that so many "Russians" died...or more likely you will simply disappear.

    Replies: @AP

  763. @Mikel

    Evacuate where to?
     
    Exactly. Besides, the idea that Hamas benefits from having their women and children killed is like the idea that Zelensky benefits from having Ukrainian women and children killed. Not untrue, in a certain sense, but quite nonsensical as a general argument, absent categorical proof that they are purposefully using their relatives and kinsmen as human shields. And even if that was the case, the footage of totally leveled neighborhoods in Gaza clearly shows that the Israelis don't care about causing massive damage to civilians for their military goals. Regardless of how much it benefits Hamas, it's difficult to imagine an innocent fatality toll that doesn't run in the thousands.

    I'm getting exhausted with the brainless pro-Israeli propaganda of all the major right-wing radio hosts in this country, btw. 2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program and he was still discussing how horrendous the slogan "From the river to the sea" is. The very same topic that got me tired 3 months ago and made me switch to woke NPR (!) during my morning drives. Basically, what I see is a concerted, non-stop effort in the US to ensure that anybody who feels uncomfortable with the idea of thousands of children killed by the Israelis feel bad about themselves. We are the problem, not Israel's actions.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program and he was still discussing how horrendous the slogan “From the river to the sea” is. The very same topic that got me tired 3 months ago

    The Truth must be repeated because it is true. Everyone needs to understand that Hamas is totally committed to ethnic cleansing. Repeating the Truth may be tiring, but you should understand why it is necessary.

    anybody who feels uncomfortable with the idea of thousands of children killed by the Israelis feel bad about themselves

    Those who support Hamas use of Muslim children as human shields should feel uncomfortable. They need to accurately cast the blame on the Jihadists who created the problem. Especially distant Hamas leadership in places like Qatar and Iran.

    What is gained by defaming Palestinian Jews, who are desperately defending their families from Islamist aggression?

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: silviosilver
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @A123

    Truly the most fitting end for an inhumane Israel-first troll like you would be suffocating on a Jewish cock half way down your throat.

    Anyway, to everyone else (except Israel123 and his favorite country), a very merry Christmas! (And since I know you're all deeply interested in my personal life - :) - I haven't been deliberately staying away from the OT's, just had a very full social calendar. It's been a good year in that respect.)

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @Mikel

  764. @Mikel

    Evacuate where to?
     
    Exactly. Besides, the idea that Hamas benefits from having their women and children killed is like the idea that Zelensky benefits from having Ukrainian women and children killed. Not untrue, in a certain sense, but quite nonsensical as a general argument, absent categorical proof that they are purposefully using their relatives and kinsmen as human shields. And even if that was the case, the footage of totally leveled neighborhoods in Gaza clearly shows that the Israelis don't care about causing massive damage to civilians for their military goals. Regardless of how much it benefits Hamas, it's difficult to imagine an innocent fatality toll that doesn't run in the thousands.

    I'm getting exhausted with the brainless pro-Israeli propaganda of all the major right-wing radio hosts in this country, btw. 2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program and he was still discussing how horrendous the slogan "From the river to the sea" is. The very same topic that got me tired 3 months ago and made me switch to woke NPR (!) during my morning drives. Basically, what I see is a concerted, non-stop effort in the US to ensure that anybody who feels uncomfortable with the idea of thousands of children killed by the Israelis feel bad about themselves. We are the problem, not Israel's actions.

    Replies: @A123, @AP

    Besides, the idea that Hamas benefits from having their women and children killed is like the idea that Zelensky benefits from having Ukrainian women and children killed

    Both are true in the sense that it is bad PR for their opponents. The difference though is that while Hamas seems to feel that this is a price worth paying because they don’t value their own peoples lives much (they openly embrace this), so they do not try hard to evacuate people, the Ukrainian government does actually try to evacuate people when the fighting gets near them.

    If the Ukrainian government placed PR above human lives it would try to keep as many people as possible, especially children, in frontline areas rather then evacuate them if Russians approach and the front moves in their direction. That would make for a lot of shocking pictures.

    Ukraine would also try not to evacuate people, if it was really motivated to ethnically cleanse Russian-speaking people as some of its Russian detractors claim.

    absent categorical proof that they are purposefully using their relatives and kinsmen as human shields

    Hasn’t it been proven that Hamas put its base underneath a hospital?

    And this:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-tells-gaza-residents-stay-home-israel-ground-offensive-looms-2023-10-13/

    “Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday, in defiance of an Israeli military call for more than a million civilians to move south within 24 hours in the build-up to its expected ground offensive.

    Leaders of the enclave’s governing militant group Hamas also urged Palestinians to ignore the call, and by Friday afternoon there were no signs of any mass exodus from the north of the enclave”

    And even if that was the case, the footage of totally leveled neighborhoods in Gaza clearly shows that the Israelis don’t care about causing massive damage to civilians for their military goals

    They care enough to urge evacuation, warn the population, and give some time to evacuate, but not enough to cancel their offensive if Hamas refuses to cooperate with evacuation and chooses to use Gazans as human shields. They will blame Hamas for all subsequent deaths and do not hesitate to blast through Hamas human shields in order to kill Hamas. They are rather callous and only care a little bit more about Gazan civilian lives than do Hamas.

    2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program

    Why would you do this to yourself?

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday
     
    Oh, I see. Hamas militants instruct Mosque imams to persuade their own wives and children to stay in their houses and they meekly comply, knowing that the Israelis are going to massacre them with missiles but obeying those orders anyway.

    Beckow is right about you. The closest you've ever been to combat is some Hollywood movie and you display the naive mentality of a provincial American whose mind has been shaped by Hollywood and the MSM. And then you accuse others of being gullible boomers...

    In the real world it takes a lot of effort to convince whole families to stay where they know they are going to be killed. Hamas militants are not particularly intelligent or disciplined. If that was the reason why so many thousands of civilians are dying, there would be tons of testimonies, images and footage of Hamas operatives forcing civilians to stay where they don't want to.

    Think a little before parroting neocon nonsense. You wouldn't like to hear that the reason why Russia has been killing Ukrainian civilians is because the Kiev government forces them to stay where they know they'll be bombed, would you? I don't feel much affinity for Gazans either but blaming the fathers and husbands of the victims while they're being culled by the thousands on live TV with nowhere to escape to is in bad taste.

    Replies: @AP

  765. @AP
    @Beckow


    Arestovich gave an interview blaming the West for its lack support. He started to create a new vague platform of Ukraine first! – “neither Nato, nor Russia, back to the multi-cultural Ukraine with Russians again equal“…it is the Yanuk’s and Kuchma’s Ukraine of the past. Something like that will re-emerge in the center.
     
    You demonstrate your cluelessness again.

    Arestovich’s words have nothing in common with attitudes in the center, which have totally converged with Galicia and which even before the war disliked Kuchma and Yanukovich. He may be trying to become the voice of Kharkiv of Odessa though even there, it is questionable.

    As a the Russian-speaking descendant of a Russian mother and a Belarusian Polish nobleman father he would best work as a head of liberated Belarus.

    Replies: @Beckow

    You are wrong about where the central Ukraine will go – the region is too strategic for Russia to allow outright hostility. Galicia is of little interest, remote and non-strategic, they will probably let it be.

    Russia will make the rules after the war and Kiev will be more like the south-east than like Galicia. I told you that for anti-Russia-in-Nato to be created, Kiev would have to win the war. But they are losing.

    Arestovich was a high-level radical war supporter – he has now changed his views. People are slowly sobering up, the smarter ones first, then the career oriented mid-wits, then the ordinary people followed by the unthinking dumbos…and then towards the end will people like you come around…

    You will come up with a cacamonie self-justification, maybe a combination of “but Lviv is now the true Ukraine”, the exiles will rebuild it all, and schadenfreude that so many “Russians” died…or more likely you will simply disappear.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    You are wrong about where the central Ukraine will go – the region is too strategic for Russia to allow outright hostility.
     
    Unless they conquer, occupy and garrison it (or ethnically cleanse almost everyone) that is what they will have there - outright hostility. Arestovich is not popular there. He may have some support in Kharkiv, at most. He can be the new face of the pro-Russian opposition minority.

    Russia will make the rules after the war and Kiev will be more like the south-east than like Galicia.
     
    Again, only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.

    But they are losing.
     
    Keep telling yourself that, as nothing much changes.

    Arestovich was a high-level radical war supporter – he has now changed his views.
     
    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky's entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts and became bitter. His statements do not reflect the view of people in Kiev or changing views in Ukraine, but rather his personal conflicts and breakdown in relations with his former colleagues. Analogous, I suppose, to someone like Kasyanov in Russia who was Putin's PM but became anti-Putin after things didn't work out for him, and now lives in Riga.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Beckow

  766. @German_reader
    @AP


    they don’t evacuate much
     
    Evacuate where to? It's not like southern Gaza is safe, and the borders of the territory are sealed (unlike for Ukrainians who had the option of going to the EU).
    There's also the issue that Israeli politicians are quite openly talking about their desire to carry out a huge ethnic cleansing operation. Hard not to get the impression that a key goal of the current operation is to render large parts of Gaza unlivable (supposedly two thirds of the housing stock in northern Gaza have already been severely damaged or outright destroyed). Killing large numbers of civilians is a feature, not a bug in that regard. Plenty of indications that Israeli forces are also committing serious war crimes on the ground (e. g. the Latin patriarch recently complained about Israeli snipers having killed two Christian women in a church courtyard, hard to dismiss that as Hamas propaganda). The recent "friendly fire" incident with the hostages was also telling, looks like the logic might be "We've given evacuation orders, anybody still here is a terrorist and will be shot on sight".
    AnonfromTN may be a Sovok boomer, but his interpretation is beginning to be backed up even by Western msm:
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-bombs-destruction-death-toll-scope-419488c511f83c85baea22458472a796

    Anyway, for the West this is a moral and diplomatic disaster, given how much of this is enabled by the support of the US (which is literally sending bombs and artillery shells to Israel for this war) and other Western powers. All of that talk about Russia's "genocide" and "war of annihilation" in Ukraine was always hyperbolic propaganda, but looks like hypocrisy of the worst sort now. I usually don't have much sympathy for Arabs and Muslims or people from the "Global South" complaining about racism, but unfortunately they do have a point about double standards in this regard, and obviously that will have repercussions on other issues too.

    Replies: @Beckow, @A123, @AP

    they don’t evacuate much

    Evacuate where to? It’s not like southern Gaza is safe

    It’s a lot safer than northern Gaza.

    Israel was attacked rather brutally from Gaza, it decided to kill Hamas which was responsible for that brutal attack, Hamas chose to hide among civilians and tried to prevent evacuation by those civilians as Israel attacked, as a result Israel was faced with 2 choices:

    1. Eliminate the attackers who invaded Israel, slaughtered a bunch of people and declared that they would keep doing that if not stopped, at the cost of civilian life, who are often the relatives and supporters of those very murderers. But experience a global PR disaster.

    2. Decide to reward the murderers for hiding amongst civilians by letting them get away with the crime for fear of loss of civilian life, and giving them a chance to do it again.

    It’s not an easy choice, and the Israelis are of course far from being angels. In the overall conflict they are barely if at all better than their enemies, but in this specific series of events starting from October 7th, Hamas are more the villains.

    There’s also the issue that Israeli politicians are quite openly talking about their desire to carry out a huge ethnic cleansing operation

    After the over the top brutality on October 7 such rhetoric is expected. I remember the US after 9-11.

    Anyway, for the West this is a moral and diplomatic disaster

    Agree. Hamas leaders sacrificed their own people for the sake of screwing the West. For their sake I hope they were at least generously compensated by Iran or Russia or whoever else benefited from their incredibly brutal incursion into Israel and what followed.

  767. @Beckow
    @AP

    You are wrong about where the central Ukraine will go - the region is too strategic for Russia to allow outright hostility. Galicia is of little interest, remote and non-strategic, they will probably let it be.

    Russia will make the rules after the war and Kiev will be more like the south-east than like Galicia. I told you that for anti-Russia-in-Nato to be created, Kiev would have to win the war. But they are losing.

    Arestovich was a high-level radical war supporter - he has now changed his views. People are slowly sobering up, the smarter ones first, then the career oriented mid-wits, then the ordinary people followed by the unthinking dumbos...and then towards the end will people like you come around...

    You will come up with a cacamonie self-justification, maybe a combination of "but Lviv is now the true Ukraine", the exiles will rebuild it all, and schadenfreude that so many "Russians" died...or more likely you will simply disappear.

    Replies: @AP

    You are wrong about where the central Ukraine will go – the region is too strategic for Russia to allow outright hostility.

    Unless they conquer, occupy and garrison it (or ethnically cleanse almost everyone) that is what they will have there – outright hostility. Arestovich is not popular there. He may have some support in Kharkiv, at most. He can be the new face of the pro-Russian opposition minority.

    Russia will make the rules after the war and Kiev will be more like the south-east than like Galicia.

    Again, only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.

    But they are losing.

    Keep telling yourself that, as nothing much changes.

    Arestovich was a high-level radical war supporter – he has now changed his views.

    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts and became bitter. His statements do not reflect the view of people in Kiev or changing views in Ukraine, but rather his personal conflicts and breakdown in relations with his former colleagues. Analogous, I suppose, to someone like Kasyanov in Russia who was Putin’s PM but became anti-Putin after things didn’t work out for him, and now lives in Riga.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage
     
    Just goes to show you can't even pass for a fantasist 4th generation American Banderite - even they would not could out with such blatant lack of knowledge and attention-whoring stupidity. Even when they are lying , its easy to see that they are at "Ukrainian" descendent. You don't even have that quality - just exposing yourself as some extremely disturbed weirdo.

    Here is who runs 404.
    (((Zelensky)))
    Defence Minister Umerov, previous Defence Minister......Reznikov, I think both their assistants Russian
    Strategic Industries - Riabkin (before)
    Prime Minister - Shmeigal, longest PM since Maidan coup (((Groizman)))
    Education Minister& Vice PM...Fedorov
    Education - Lisoviy
    Kamishin- Strategic Industries
    Minister of Kulture - some dickhead called Karandiev
    Ministry of Infrastructure - Kubrakov
    Most notorious scumbag politician in 404 since the coup and longest-serving MIA........Avakov
    Most important diplomatic position for this fake country ruled from outside.........Makarova
    Zelenskys Chief embezzler (sorry of Staff).....(((Yermak)))&Russian
    The wakjob Budanov
    Chief Prosecutor.......Kostin, preceeded by Venediktova
    Head of civil service..Alyushina
    SBU , as is of course totally normal....his "comedy" friend, Bakanov, was its head for 3 of the last 4
    Supreme Court, if my memory is correct last appointment was a Donetsk judge - and either then of the constitutional court it is majority Russian names you retard
    And of course that authentic "Ukrainian"..........Alexey Danilov head of SNBO
    Manager of football team - Rebrov
    Minister of Health - that true Ukrainian patriotic name.....Maxim Stepanov

    The Israeli cabinet is more Ukrainian than the Ukrainian one you dumb bag of excrement. LMAO.
    Russian government is more "Ukrainian" probably too.

    The "Human Rights commisioner" (LOL) who was in charge of all the "Bucha" and "rape" fakes.......Denisova


    It is shockingly amusing just how non-khokhol, khokholstan is you retard. There are some Poles and non-public Jews I omitted and the fact the country is run by foreign politicians

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    , @Beckow
    @AP


    ...only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.
     
    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks. The leaders will change and many anti-Russians will leave out of frustration and fear. There will be recriminations against the people who led Ukraine to the disaster - Maidan and the war will not be celebrated but seen as unnecessary carnage and a fool's errand on behalf of Nato.

    Central Ukraine doesn't have to be occupied - that would be self-defeating. But your blind belief that there wouldn't be enough Ukies willing to accommodate Russia and benefit is naive and ahistorical - there always are many people who live in the present. It first helped the Maidanistas and after a defeat it will be the reverse.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow, happy the war is over, saying things like "we never agreed to the radical nationalist closing of the Russian schools or with Bandera marches" and "we never cared for Nato" or "Nato betrayed us"...the focus will be on the horrific costs to Ukraine, destroyed infrastructure, lost lands, thousands of dead, millions who left permanently.

    There are always die-hards and their adventures would be covered in the West to cover up the loss. But with time the population would mostly turn on them due to the mayhem they are causing. People want normalcy more than anything else, the passionate damn-the-consequences fights last a few years and then fizzle out.


    Arestovich is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts
     
    Zelko is also a non-ethnic Ukie, and so are the prime ministers, etc...you have to dig deep and hard to find "pure Ukrainians". But whatever, if that is your thing.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly. These are signals from people who are looking for the way out - offering the de facto restoration of the Yanuk's status quo ante of a multi-cultural and neutral Ukraine would work. Of course sans Crimea, Donbas...Or at least it may appeal to Russia enough to buy time. But Arestovich is not bullsh.ing or settling personal scores - he is too smart and well connected for that.

    It is an opening gambit - offers to negotiate. There is a chance that Russia will bite and agree to a restored Yanuk-like Ukraine with new leaders and this time better guarantees. And we will get some peace. We would very much welcome it, the stupidity and lost business are not fun.

    Having Russia as our neighbor on the Carpathians benefits nobody, not us, nor Russia or EU. It is almost as bad as the raving Banderites marches there. No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying - we did a Sabine-women raid without having to move a finger, how great is that? They also make fantastic macchiatos...

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AP

  768. @AP
    @Mikel


    Besides, the idea that Hamas benefits from having their women and children killed is like the idea that Zelensky benefits from having Ukrainian women and children killed
     
    Both are true in the sense that it is bad PR for their opponents. The difference though is that while Hamas seems to feel that this is a price worth paying because they don’t value their own peoples lives much (they openly embrace this), so they do not try hard to evacuate people, the Ukrainian government does actually try to evacuate people when the fighting gets near them.

    If the Ukrainian government placed PR above human lives it would try to keep as many people as possible, especially children, in frontline areas rather then evacuate them if Russians approach and the front moves in their direction. That would make for a lot of shocking pictures.

    Ukraine would also try not to evacuate people, if it was really motivated to ethnically cleanse Russian-speaking people as some of its Russian detractors claim.


    absent categorical proof that they are purposefully using their relatives and kinsmen as human shields
     
    Hasn’t it been proven that Hamas put its base underneath a hospital?

    And this:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-tells-gaza-residents-stay-home-israel-ground-offensive-looms-2023-10-13/

    “Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday, in defiance of an Israeli military call for more than a million civilians to move south within 24 hours in the build-up to its expected ground offensive.

    Leaders of the enclave's governing militant group Hamas also urged Palestinians to ignore the call, and by Friday afternoon there were no signs of any mass exodus from the north of the enclave”


    And even if that was the case, the footage of totally leveled neighborhoods in Gaza clearly shows that the Israelis don’t care about causing massive damage to civilians for their military goals

     

    They care enough to urge evacuation, warn the population, and give some time to evacuate, but not enough to cancel their offensive if Hamas refuses to cooperate with evacuation and chooses to use Gazans as human shields. They will blame Hamas for all subsequent deaths and do not hesitate to blast through Hamas human shields in order to kill Hamas. They are rather callous and only care a little bit more about Gazan civilian lives than do Hamas.

    2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program
     
    Why would you do this to yourself?

    Replies: @Mikel

    Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday

    Oh, I see. Hamas militants instruct Mosque imams to persuade their own wives and children to stay in their houses and they meekly comply, knowing that the Israelis are going to massacre them with missiles but obeying those orders anyway.

    Beckow is right about you. The closest you’ve ever been to combat is some Hollywood movie and you display the naive mentality of a provincial American whose mind has been shaped by Hollywood and the MSM. And then you accuse others of being gullible boomers…

    In the real world it takes a lot of effort to convince whole families to stay where they know they are going to be killed. Hamas militants are not particularly intelligent or disciplined. If that was the reason why so many thousands of civilians are dying, there would be tons of testimonies, images and footage of Hamas operatives forcing civilians to stay where they don’t want to.

    Think a little before parroting neocon nonsense. You wouldn’t like to hear that the reason why Russia has been killing Ukrainian civilians is because the Kiev government forces them to stay where they know they’ll be bombed, would you? I don’t feel much affinity for Gazans either but blaming the fathers and husbands of the victims while they’re being culled by the thousands on live TV with nowhere to escape to is in bad taste.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday

    Oh, I see. Hamas militants instruct Mosque imams to persuade their own wives and children to stay in their houses
     

    Was Reuters lying when they stated that this happened?

    Have you seen the Palestinian videos extolling the virtues of martyrdom?


    and they meekly comply, knowing that the Israelis are going to massacre them with missiles but obeying those orders anyway

     

    They fear disobeying the militants and they fear getting killed as they flee.

    Israel claims they Hamas has been actively preventing people from fleeing. I would take that with a grain of salt. However, we do know:

    1. Israel told people to leave and gave them time to do so.

    2. Hamas ordered them to stay.

    3. Many stayed and were killed by Israel as it bombed Hamas which was integrated in civilian areas. (and I’m sure the Israelis were not nearly as careful as they should or could have been)


    The closest you’ve ever been to combat is some Hollywood movie
     
    Neither of us has been in urban warfare remotely comparable to Gaza. I’ve, at least, had patients who were combat veterans from Iraq.

    Have you been in an actual war zone, with missiles, artillery, etc?

    Have you dealt with Muslim militants?

    I don’t think your experience is any or at least much closer than my second-hand experience.


    In the real world it takes a lot of effort to convince whole families to stay where they know they are going to be killed
     
    Hamas has a well earned reputation for brutality and for killing those who disobey them. Including killing uncooperative Palestinians. Do you disagree?

    If that was the reason why so many thousands of civilians are dying, there would be tons of testimonies, images and footage of Hamas operatives forcing civilians to stay where they don’t want to
     
    Combination of fear of consequences for crossing Hamas by some, and fanatic acceptance of martyrdom by others, could explain it.

    Do you have another explanation for what I had posted?

    1. Israel told people to leave and gave them time to do so.

    2. Hamas ordered them to stay.

    3. Many stayed and were killed by Israel as it bombed Hamas which was integrated in civilian areas. (and I’m sure the Israelis were not nearly as careful as they should or could have been)


    You wouldn’t like to hear that the reason why Russia has been killing Ukrainian civilians is because the Kiev government forces them to stay where they know they’ll be bombed, would you

     

    Ukraine has been documented as evacuating people from war zones near the front and encouraging them to leave. Such as when they had evacuated Kupyansk awhile ago. Hamas has been documented as telling people to stay.

    Moreover the context is completely different. Russia didn’t invade Ukraine in response to Ukraine invading Belgorod or Bryansk and torturing, murdering, and raping a bunch of Russian civilians.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  769. @A123
    @Mikel


    2 1/2 months after the Hamas massacre yesterday I tuned in to the Glenn Beck program and he was still discussing how horrendous the slogan “From the river to the sea” is. The very same topic that got me tired 3 months ago

     

    The Truth must be repeated because it is true. Everyone needs to understand that Hamas is totally committed to ethnic cleansing. Repeating the Truth may be tiring, but you should understand why it is necessary.

    anybody who feels uncomfortable with the idea of thousands of children killed by the Israelis feel bad about themselves
     
    Those who support Hamas use of Muslim children as human shields should feel uncomfortable. They need to accurately cast the blame on the Jihadists who created the problem. Especially distant Hamas leadership in places like Qatar and Iran.

    What is gained by defaming Palestinian Jews, who are desperately defending their families from Islamist aggression?

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @silviosilver

    Truly the most fitting end for an inhumane Israel-first troll like you would be suffocating on a Jewish cock half way down your throat.

    Anyway, to everyone else (except Israel123 and his favorite country), a very merry Christmas! (And since I know you’re all deeply interested in my personal life – 🙂 – I haven’t been deliberately staying away from the OT’s, just had a very full social calendar. It’s been a good year in that respect.)

    • Replies: @AP
    @silviosilver

    Merry Christmas to you, too, and to yours.

    , @A123
    @silviosilver

    From the Third Sunday of Advent: (1)


    Reading 1 -- Is 61:1-2A, 10-11

    The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me,
    because the LORD has anointed me;
    he has sent me to bring glad tidings to the poor,
    to heal the brokenhearted,
    to proclaim liberty to the captives
    and release to the prisoners,
    to announce a year of favor from the LORD
    and a day of vindication by our God.

    I rejoice heartily in the LORD,
    in my God is the joy of my soul;
    for he has clothed me with a robe of salvation
    and wrapped me in a mantle of justice,
    like a bridegroom adorned with a diadem,
    like a bride bedecked with her jewels.
    As the earth brings forth its plants,
    and a garden makes its growth spring up,
    so will the Lord GOD make justice and praise
    spring up before all the nations.
     
    ✝️ 🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄 ☦️
    ___________________________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/17/third-sunday-of-advent-3/
    , @Mikel
    @silviosilver

    Merry Christmas to you too. Stop by and let us know if that busy social calendar leads to wedding.

    And Merry Christmas to everyone else, including my dialectical "enemies". In fact, A123 is not the one doing the heavy lifting for the IDF here. It's someone else who's making the untenable claims. For example: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-fails-prove-targeted-gaza-hospital-was-hamas-hub-washington-post But I've had more than enough of that discussion in the past months. Whatever.

  770. @Mikel
    @AP


    Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday
     
    Oh, I see. Hamas militants instruct Mosque imams to persuade their own wives and children to stay in their houses and they meekly comply, knowing that the Israelis are going to massacre them with missiles but obeying those orders anyway.

    Beckow is right about you. The closest you've ever been to combat is some Hollywood movie and you display the naive mentality of a provincial American whose mind has been shaped by Hollywood and the MSM. And then you accuse others of being gullible boomers...

    In the real world it takes a lot of effort to convince whole families to stay where they know they are going to be killed. Hamas militants are not particularly intelligent or disciplined. If that was the reason why so many thousands of civilians are dying, there would be tons of testimonies, images and footage of Hamas operatives forcing civilians to stay where they don't want to.

    Think a little before parroting neocon nonsense. You wouldn't like to hear that the reason why Russia has been killing Ukrainian civilians is because the Kiev government forces them to stay where they know they'll be bombed, would you? I don't feel much affinity for Gazans either but blaming the fathers and husbands of the victims while they're being culled by the thousands on live TV with nowhere to escape to is in bad taste.

    Replies: @AP

    Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday

    Oh, I see. Hamas militants instruct Mosque imams to persuade their own wives and children to stay in their houses

    Was Reuters lying when they stated that this happened?

    Have you seen the Palestinian videos extolling the virtues of martyrdom?

    and they meekly comply, knowing that the Israelis are going to massacre them with missiles but obeying those orders anyway

    They fear disobeying the militants and they fear getting killed as they flee.

    Israel claims they Hamas has been actively preventing people from fleeing. I would take that with a grain of salt. However, we do know:

    1. Israel told people to leave and gave them time to do so.

    2. Hamas ordered them to stay.

    3. Many stayed and were killed by Israel as it bombed Hamas which was integrated in civilian areas. (and I’m sure the Israelis were not nearly as careful as they should or could have been)

    The closest you’ve ever been to combat is some Hollywood movie

    Neither of us has been in urban warfare remotely comparable to Gaza. I’ve, at least, had patients who were combat veterans from Iraq.

    Have you been in an actual war zone, with missiles, artillery, etc?

    Have you dealt with Muslim militants?

    I don’t think your experience is any or at least much closer than my second-hand experience.

    In the real world it takes a lot of effort to convince whole families to stay where they know they are going to be killed

    Hamas has a well earned reputation for brutality and for killing those who disobey them. Including killing uncooperative Palestinians. Do you disagree?

    If that was the reason why so many thousands of civilians are dying, there would be tons of testimonies, images and footage of Hamas operatives forcing civilians to stay where they don’t want to

    Combination of fear of consequences for crossing Hamas by some, and fanatic acceptance of martyrdom by others, could explain it.

    Do you have another explanation for what I had posted?

    1. Israel told people to leave and gave them time to do so.

    2. Hamas ordered them to stay.

    3. Many stayed and were killed by Israel as it bombed Hamas which was integrated in civilian areas. (and I’m sure the Israelis were not nearly as careful as they should or could have been)

    You wouldn’t like to hear that the reason why Russia has been killing Ukrainian civilians is because the Kiev government forces them to stay where they know they’ll be bombed, would you

    Ukraine has been documented as evacuating people from war zones near the front and encouraging them to leave. Such as when they had evacuated Kupyansk awhile ago. Hamas has been documented as telling people to stay.

    Moreover the context is completely different. Russia didn’t invade Ukraine in response to Ukraine invading Belgorod or Bryansk and torturing, murdering, and raping a bunch of Russian civilians.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AP

    Deafness is the second most common disease in Palestine after thalassemia, as usually is in areas where cousin marriage is rampant (~50% for Palestine), so maybe many of Gazans simply did not hear Israeli communications... As for other dangers of cousin marriage, the news of today is so incredible that it borders on black humour, but apparently one Israeli missile/bomb took lives of 76 members of one family .... This is to what the cousin marriage custom forces people - if you do not have money to constantly travel from a cousin to a cousin, to secure necessary closeness, you end on living in a heap . One heap, exactly.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/23/israeli-strike-kills-76-members-of-one-gaza-family-rescue-officials-say-as-combat-expands-in-south-00133158


    Which leads to another interesting question: were first cities built by people practicing cousin marriage, in order to ensure such a mating form too? Well, as we know, inbreeding was never really popular among nomads...


    As for Gaza war, it seems that neither Israel nor Hamas are substantially interested in limiting casualties...
    Some other perspective:
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article220078.html

  771. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    I didn’t read her text. But from reading history books about Israel which discuss about her famous texts, it seems after the war she continues to view the world from a perspective of German philosophy with maybe something like a personal Goethe-index for assessing cultural progress.

    Most people agree German culture until 1933 is beautiful. But aside not being very relevant for use by tourists in the Middle East, surely using any German “civilization index” to describe Israel seems unusual after 1933-45.
     
    Because it is not just about being a tourist. The question is, in so far as Israel claims to speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

    If Israeli culture and Western culture are deemed too far apart, then one can respond to this by either carrying out mental Israelisation or a distancing of oneself from the Israel that fell short.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one's own culture, the way the Jewish New York intellectuals of Commentary magazine and the like did.

    We can’t visit the old Israel of 1950s/1960s, to experience. But from the traces, it would probably feel more like in the Eastern than Western side of the Iron Curtain.

    It could have been almost half-way to non-Soviet Warsaw Pact countries in some ways, also more like a third world frontier and refugee camp in many of the areas.
     
    I don't disagree about the real conditions, I am just talking about what impression would the average Western person expect?

    Imagine Ruritanians, long oppressed, set out to establish a national state in South America (lets say in present day Suriname and Guyana). They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit... and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Dmitry

    speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews

    Her evaluation probably from the German philosophy and political theory, for her friends who are the circle of German philosophy and political theory. Maybe also with some views about a possibility of immigration for herself.

    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history’s most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

    For the obvious reasons, Israel would not be somewhere to expect her culture to survive beyond the first generation of the immigrants from Germany and more people there were probably interested to lose German culture than to continue it.

    necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It’s like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one’s own

    If you create a country using immigrants from all the Catholic countries, you would have as basis for the statement building all these immigrants like Catholics from Colombia, India, Africa, Filipinos, Germans, Irish, Hungarians, Italians.

    Obviously with such a blank state building, when the German culture was still prestigious, people would want more German culture, less Colombian culture.

    In the 19th century, when Meiji Japan or Russian empire is modernizing, importing German concepts, culture and expertise is prioritized.

    But not many people would prioritize German culture after the 1930s, especially in the example when Germany had persecuted the group who is doing statebuilding. Even especially immigrants from Germany, will be trying to remove the culture.

    They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit… and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

    You would expect before the visit the country will be a mix of military camp and refugee camp. Probably strictly management and collectivist, with features like the highest military spending as proportion of the economy in the world. So, you would expect a culture like 1950s/1960s Israel. So, someone to expect they would visit Heidelberg would be strange and just applying to the incorrect country.

    Eventually, Israel radically liberalized socially, econmoically and politically in the 1980s/1990s. It becomes a luxury Western country in 2000s/2010s, with individualist culture. Proportion of military spending falls 5 times. But the security level also seems to fall and the military attainments fall.

    If you consider the expectations vs. reality of the 1950s/1960s. Reality would have been more successful than most peoples’ rational expectation. Ben-Gurion has similar attainments as Stalin in some aspects, with many less years. By the time, Ben-Gurion died, Israel early space programme, nuclear weapons, intercontinental ballistic missiles. Within 10 years, they build for people in refugee camps, higher or similar standard of living as the Soviet Union in the 1970s, which required more than 50 years of Soviet attainments.

    But compared to Stalin, Ben-Gurion and other Israeli leaders were weak and humanitarian in terms of the demographic aspect of the state building, not completely winning of internal and external wars, giving inheritance for later conflicts. Stalin would have deported the Arab population within a few weeks, if he followed his policies like the total Chechen population deported to Kazakhstan in a few weeks in 1944. Stalin wouldn’t have followed Israeli policies like avoiding military victory in the end (in 1973).

    It’s in the specific dimension of the security where the reality has been usually far worse than expectations for Israel. There is not anything rational in the perspective of Arendt that the problem was culture or to be “half-Asiatic”.

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    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history’s most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

     

    However pernicious its legacy may be I don't think the prominence and prestige of the Frankfurt School (to give an example of a group of prominent mainly culturally German philosophers) in the post-war decades can be denied. So to draw the line at the 1930s I don't think quite fits.

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It’s like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.
     
    But my point is that Israel as Hogwarts is the main base of Western popular support/approval of Israel. One of the main criteria that is used to buttress Israel's special status in the Western worldview is precisely that Israel is superior racially (in the conservative perspective)/culturally (in the liberal perspective) to its neighbours.

    If Israel is just yet another Qurac, then what the hell are we doing?

    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Dmitry

    In my Biblical Archaeology book there is a picture of a ceremonial knife that has the Priestly Benediction in proto Hebrew etched into it. I forget when it was dug up but it was absolutely 20th century. There is a possibility the discovery date was after the time when Hannah Arendt described Israel as meaningless. There are Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in the 1940's that still do not have accepted English translations.

    Arendt was wrong. Israel is a fascinating place if you are curious about certain subjects. Just not modern philosophy or culture. Poor old woman was kind of stuck in a rut. She peaked too young.

  772. @LatW
    @Gerard1234

    You will remain in this land forever (as fertilizer), rest assured.

    Btw, Ivan Grozny is not even fully Rus - his mother was half Lipka Tatar (so essentially a citizen of Lithuania), and half Serbian. Probably could not speak the Rus language of that time. Just like Tsar Nikolai's wife who never spoke Russian (Nikolai spoke English to her). Nikolai spoke Russian with an accent (there's an audio clip).

    "Аз есмь царь" (As esm' tsar) - ever heard of this phrase? The tsars wore it etched on their ring - it's pure Baltic speech (spoken even today).

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Btw, Ivan Grozny is not even fully Rus – his mother was half Lipka Tatar (so essentially a citizen of Lithuania)

    That is all true. In previous threads I did or was going to mention that his mother , who ruled Russia as reagent when Ivan was too young, was born in Cherkassy. So a ukrop was in power of something for the first and only time outside of the USSR era.

    Just like Tsar Nikolai’s wife who never spoke Russian

    Very common in all the actually RELEVANT countries, dickhead. Each of the important countries married somebody from the other with the same language issue. She would have converted to Russian Orthodox Church though. Note how many female rulers Russia had in comparison to every other “progressive” gayropa country also. France and plenty of the other banned them. UK executed one of them after 9 days.

  773. Ukraine has been a tactical defeat for Russia but the losses have been acceptable relative to what was achieved strategically.

  774. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    Most of everyone nowadays is streaming, while they don’t exactly seem like most people are becoming music connoisseurs. It probably reduces interest in music overall for many users.
     
    This may be true, but for many, I would think that streaming opens up a huge door of opportunity to experiment and listen to many forms of music and artists that they may never even listen to. We already know that many young people don't read books for entertainment, and now you're suggesting that many also don't really expand their interests in music beyond the everyday hum drum. Heck, whenever I occasionally breach the topic of older films at work with those younger than myself, they don't enen know what I'm talking about. They're losing touch with their own great inheritance whether its music, books or even film. It looks to me, like were fast developing a world full of ignorant boring and empty headed people, perhaps intentionally, that will be easy to control by our political elites. It's probably similar in Russia and Eastern Europe too. :-(

    In my clique of friends, it was easy to make the change from vinyl to CD's. The overall quality of sound was much better, and the insane level of hissing and pops that was always present in the background of vinyl records (that would only get worse as time went on) had been totally eliminated. Yay!

    What have you been listening to lately? Because of the easy access to new music through Spotify, I've become somewhat of a connoisseur of a new genre of music for me, the Canterbury sound, a subset of Prog-rock, with its roots in the past. Really great music that I would suggest to anybody that enjoys traditional prog-rock music. There's still a lot of interest it seems in prog-rock music to this day with new groups still popping up all over the place. Karfagen from Kharkiv is just such a group.


    Streaming albums are less objectified and difficult for people to organize attention on compared to the vinyl record, which would be popular for people to give as presents or use to decorate the bookshelf.
     
    I think that you could be right here. I do remember the joy of beholding vinyl record album cover art. You just can't enjoy the minimizing effects of cover art of some albums. Although some CD covers have been quite creative too. This one, as originally sold, had incorporated some electronic components that were super cool:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Pink_Floyd_Pulse_Light_Case.jpg
    This is the outer shell of the 1995 Pink Floyd release, "Pulse" below the compartment designed to hold the blinking light that was inside the package. Normally this compartment is inside the lower outer case, and the book with the CD's in it rests in there. The ultimate in CD cover art. A very good album to own if your Pink Floyd collection is thin. A lot of great classic songs redone in concert format,

    Replies: @Dmitry

    similar in Russia

    In Russia, especially after the internet there are a lot of audiophile groups which are recycling equipment of the 1980s and 1970s. The social media group of Vasiliy Zaytsev has a lot of those fans of 1980s equipment
    https://vk.com/retrosoundshop

    But, maybe 99% of the people of the group are men older than 30 years old .

    Young people mainly don’t have much interest except headphones. Also general culture of interest about electronics falling as the education system progressively died and there is loss of possibility of jobs in electronics as a career in Russia.

    clique of friends, it was easy to make the change from vinyl to CD’s. The overall quality of sound was much better, and the insane level of hissing and pops that was always present in the background of vinyl records

    Lack of hissing was a demand of classical music fans. That’s how Sony-Philips was marketing for years before the format launches in 1982.

    I’m not sure it’s really so important for less dynamic music as today people don’t seem to dislike the hissing in vinyl.

    CDs were a kind of luxury product for the first few years. Quality and design of the consumer electronics in those times when they made them in Japan was just a different level compared to today now most everything is from third world countries and value engineering.

    Some of those 1980s players are like something from a higher civilization. The spacious layout of the main board for the Elna and Nichicon caps.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Dmitry

    Hissing is great, it drowns out the ringing in my ears :)

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  775. @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews
     
    Her evaluation probably from the German philosophy and political theory, for her friends who are the circle of German philosophy and political theory. Maybe also with some views about a possibility of immigration for herself.

    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history's most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

    For the obvious reasons, Israel would not be somewhere to expect her culture to survive beyond the first generation of the immigrants from Germany and more people there were probably interested to lose German culture than to continue it.


    necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

     

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It's like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one’s own

     

    If you create a country using immigrants from all the Catholic countries, you would have as basis for the statement building all these immigrants like Catholics from Colombia, India, Africa, Filipinos, Germans, Irish, Hungarians, Italians.

    Obviously with such a blank state building, when the German culture was still prestigious, people would want more German culture, less Colombian culture.

    In the 19th century, when Meiji Japan or Russian empire is modernizing, importing German concepts, culture and expertise is prioritized.

    But not many people would prioritize German culture after the 1930s, especially in the example when Germany had persecuted the group who is doing statebuilding. Even especially immigrants from Germany, will be trying to remove the culture.


    They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit… and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

     

    You would expect before the visit the country will be a mix of military camp and refugee camp. Probably strictly management and collectivist, with features like the highest military spending as proportion of the economy in the world. So, you would expect a culture like 1950s/1960s Israel. So, someone to expect they would visit Heidelberg would be strange and just applying to the incorrect country.

    Eventually, Israel radically liberalized socially, econmoically and politically in the 1980s/1990s. It becomes a luxury Western country in 2000s/2010s, with individualist culture. Proportion of military spending falls 5 times. But the security level also seems to fall and the military attainments fall.

    If you consider the expectations vs. reality of the 1950s/1960s. Reality would have been more successful than most peoples' rational expectation. Ben-Gurion has similar attainments as Stalin in some aspects, with many less years. By the time, Ben-Gurion died, Israel early space programme, nuclear weapons, intercontinental ballistic missiles. Within 10 years, they build for people in refugee camps, higher or similar standard of living as the Soviet Union in the 1970s, which required more than 50 years of Soviet attainments.

    But compared to Stalin, Ben-Gurion and other Israeli leaders were weak and humanitarian in terms of the demographic aspect of the state building, not completely winning of internal and external wars, giving inheritance for later conflicts. Stalin would have deported the Arab population within a few weeks, if he followed his policies like the total Chechen population deported to Kazakhstan in a few weeks in 1944. Stalin wouldn't have followed Israeli policies like avoiding military victory in the end (in 1973).

    It's in the specific dimension of the security where the reality has been usually far worse than expectations for Israel. There is not anything rational in the perspective of Arendt that the problem was culture or to be "half-Asiatic".

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Emil Nikola Richard

    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history’s most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

    However pernicious its legacy may be I don’t think the prominence and prestige of the Frankfurt School (to give an example of a group of prominent mainly culturally German philosophers) in the post-war decades can be denied. So to draw the line at the 1930s I don’t think quite fits.

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It’s like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.

    But my point is that Israel as Hogwarts is the main base of Western popular support/approval of Israel. One of the main criteria that is used to buttress Israel’s special status in the Western worldview is precisely that Israel is superior racially (in the conservative perspective)/culturally (in the liberal perspective) to its neighbours.

    If Israel is just yet another Qurac, then what the hell are we doing?

    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    Israel is superior to its neighbours.
     
    It depends if we use Western post-Enlightenment concepts or the "Eastern" or pre-Enlightenment concepts?

    In view of many people in the Arab or Muslim world, Israel is "weaker than a spiders' web". Since probably with the withdrawing from Sinai in 1982 and later Oslo 1993, Israel is viewed by the Arab street as a weak country which loses every war since 1967, doesn't have willpower, always folds to international pressure, cannot have security for its civilians, regularly loses honor and is scared of children with stones. While many of the Arab street believe they have stronger willpower, commitment and solidarity, Israel is viewed as decadent,* not able to sacrifice for its strategic objectives, releases thousands of terrorists for some hostage or dead bodies, can be defeated in the international propaganda by tricks.

    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.

    But from the Western view? If you use the Western measurements, Israel is more developed than most of Europe in areas like economic complexity, scientific knowledge and probably some legal areas like property rights.

    If they solve the security problem, the economic level would probably bypass every European country except places like Switzerland, Norway or Luxembourg. Even although Israel is a security disaster country, which is viewed as weaker than a spiders' web by the Arab world, from the Western measurements it seems to be progressing, while the neighbors don't change.

    In the Western indicators like GDP per capita they are going to bypass Sweden this year. While their neighbors almost don't change for decades.

    https://i.imgur.com/qn0NPAR.jpg

    It's one of few areas in the world with border between the first and third world. If you think about few examples there are in the world, of the countries with border between the first world and third world. USA-Mexico border, intra-Korean border, and there was the Singapore-Malaysia border (today Malaysia is a middle income country).

    Israel has borders with third world Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Gaza and West Bank. Israel has at least numerically more borders between the first world and third world, than in all the rest of the world.

    So, it's geographically unexpected extension of the developed world to Western Asia.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But we are talking about perceptions of the 1950s/1960s. Israel was like a refugee camp and military camp of the 1950s. You can see in the buildings of the cities today which are still like a refugee camp.

    There are a lot of cities in Israel where the buildings look worse than Gaza. It's a trace of how cheap and rapid the situation was there in the 1950s. Although paradoxically they managed the security better in those years and they had a lot more deterrence in relation to the Arab world, compared to the situation now when Israel is viewed as weak in the Muslim world.

    In the Eastern view, the 1950s/1960s of Israel was very successful and the Arabs was scared about it.

    But in the Western view, the 1950s/1960s Israel was probably not somewhere you want to live. Every night trying to sleep there without airconditioning is an anti-luxury.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But the disappoint which would could be seen in an objective way is the failure of their security system. The idea the problem is Arendt's view of the culture, conformism or "half-Asiatic", is a very subjective and probably depends on political views which are almost like a religion.

    -

    *There are probably more progressed indications of this in Western European countries from the Eastern view.

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Hyperborean

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Hyperborean


    However pernicious its legacy may be I don’t think the prominence and prestige of the Frankfurt School (to give an example of a group of prominent mainly culturally German philosophers) in the post-war decades can be denied. So to draw the line at the 1930s I don’t think quite fits.
     
    Watch out. The days of Wilhelm Reich are yet to be!
  776. Is Scholz trying to dismantle AP’s dream of PLC being reconstituted, by stationing 5,000 troops in Lithuania?!

    Before Poland gets delivery on its 500 HIMARS.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @songbird

    The new PLC can use all of the help that it can get.

  777. @AP
    @Beckow


    You are wrong about where the central Ukraine will go – the region is too strategic for Russia to allow outright hostility.
     
    Unless they conquer, occupy and garrison it (or ethnically cleanse almost everyone) that is what they will have there - outright hostility. Arestovich is not popular there. He may have some support in Kharkiv, at most. He can be the new face of the pro-Russian opposition minority.

    Russia will make the rules after the war and Kiev will be more like the south-east than like Galicia.
     
    Again, only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.

    But they are losing.
     
    Keep telling yourself that, as nothing much changes.

    Arestovich was a high-level radical war supporter – he has now changed his views.
     
    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky's entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts and became bitter. His statements do not reflect the view of people in Kiev or changing views in Ukraine, but rather his personal conflicts and breakdown in relations with his former colleagues. Analogous, I suppose, to someone like Kasyanov in Russia who was Putin's PM but became anti-Putin after things didn't work out for him, and now lives in Riga.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Beckow

    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage

    Just goes to show you can’t even pass for a fantasist 4th generation American Banderite – even they would not could out with such blatant lack of knowledge and attention-whoring stupidity. Even when they are lying , its easy to see that they are at “Ukrainian” descendent. You don’t even have that quality – just exposing yourself as some extremely disturbed weirdo.

    Here is who runs 404.
    (((Zelensky)))
    Defence Minister Umerov, previous Defence Minister……Reznikov, I think both their assistants Russian
    Strategic Industries – Riabkin (before)
    Prime Minister – Shmeigal, longest PM since Maidan coup (((Groizman)))
    Education Minister& Vice PM…Fedorov
    Education – Lisoviy
    Kamishin- Strategic Industries
    Minister of Kulture – some dickhead called Karandiev
    Ministry of Infrastructure – Kubrakov
    Most notorious scumbag politician in 404 since the coup and longest-serving MIA……..Avakov
    Most important diplomatic position for this fake country ruled from outside………Makarova
    Zelenskys Chief embezzler (sorry of Staff)…..(((Yermak)))&Russian
    The wakjob Budanov
    Chief Prosecutor…….Kostin, preceeded by Venediktova
    Head of civil service..Alyushina
    SBU , as is of course totally normal….his “comedy” friend, Bakanov, was its head for 3 of the last 4
    Supreme Court, if my memory is correct last appointment was a Donetsk judge – and either then of the constitutional court it is majority Russian names you retard
    And of course that authentic “Ukrainian”……….Alexey Danilov head of SNBO
    Manager of football team – Rebrov
    Minister of Health – that true Ukrainian patriotic name…..Maxim Stepanov

    The Israeli cabinet is more Ukrainian than the Ukrainian one you dumb bag of excrement. LMAO.
    Russian government is more “Ukrainian” probably too.

    The “Human Rights commisioner” (LOL) who was in charge of all the “Bucha” and “rape” fakes…….Denisova

    It is shockingly amusing just how non-khokhol, khokholstan is you retard. There are some Poles and non-public Jews I omitted and the fact the country is run by foreign politicians

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for the list.

    I still believe Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don't think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) 'bona fides'. Do you believe these politicians and bureaucrats on your list have any real power or are they puppets as well?

    Russia is probably pressuring the oligarchs or other true leaders in Ukraine to change the power structure and break the destructive Western ties. This may be a touchy process depending on how the Russian Jewish oligarchs fit into the picture.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow, @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    , @AP
    @Gerard1234


    He [Arestovich] is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage
     
    Arestovich was also born n Georgia, not even in Ukraine.

    (((Zelensky)))
     
    Born in Ukraine, at least. And has a Ukrainian wife.

    Defence Minister Umerov
     
    Crimean Tatar. Crimea is officially Ukraine.

    Denys Shmyhal PM
     
    Jewish native of Lviv.

    Education – Lisoviy
     
    Ethnic Ukrainian from Kiev. His father was a Ukrainian nationalist anti-Soviet dissident.

    Education Minister& Vice PM…Fedorov
     
    He is the Deputy Prime Minister for Innovation, Education, Science and Technology/Minister for Digital Transformation. His surname is Russian, but he is from a small mostly ethnic Ukrainian town in Zaporizhia oblast.

    Most important diplomatic position for this fake country ruled from outside………Makarova
     
    Oksana Markarova (Ukraine's ambassador to the USA) is of mixed Ukrainian and Armenian descent, from Rivne in western Ukraine. Her given name is a very typical Ukrainian one.

    Ukraine's foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba is an ethnic Ukrainian from Sumy.

    Most notorious scumbag politician in 404 since the coup and longest-serving MIA……..Avakov
     
    Avakov, an ethnic Armenian, is no longer interior minister.

    The current one, Ihor Klymenko, is an ethnic Ukrainian from Kiev.

    Ministry of Infrastructure – Kubrakov
     
    Russian surname, from a city Dnipropetrovsk oblast.

    Zelenskys Chief embezzler (sorry of Staff)…..(((Yermak)))&Russian
     
    Ethnic Russian mother, Jewish father, born and lived in Kiev.

    Budanov
     
    Russian surname, born in Kiev.

    SBU , as is of course totally normal….his “comedy” friend, Bakanov
     
    Bakanov was replaced by Vasyl Malyuk, ethnic Ukrainian from Zhytomir

    Minister of Health – that true Ukrainian patriotic name…..Maxim Stepanov
     
    Stepanov left office in 2021. It's now Victor Liashko, ethnic Ukrainian from Rivne in western Ukraine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Liashko

    You forgot the Minister of Agriculture - Mykola Solskyi, ethnic Ukrainian from Lviv

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Your trick is to magnify percentage of the foreigners by including former officials who were not Ukrainians, rather than current ones who are Ukrainian. Anyways, the presence of some Russians among high Ukrainian government contradicts the fairy tale that the government is "genocidal" towards ethnic Russians. And one would expect some ethnic Russians among them, ethnic Russians were about 17% of the population before 2014. And Jews are talented wherever they are. Russia has had a couple Jewish PMs.

    It is shockingly amusing just how non-khokhol, khokholstan is
     
    Russians are traditionally ruled by foreigners, they are natural at it. Be it Germans like Catherine, or that Georgian whom they love despite his killing millions of them. An unfortunate aspect of Russian cultural influence upon Ukraine is that central and eastern Ukrainians have fallen into the same tendency (though unlike Russians, they at least do not love their Georgian killer). For example in the last presidential election, the Galicians voted for the ethnic Ukrainian Poroshenko (remember when you admitted that you are a gullible fool and kept repeating fairytales that he was Jewish?) but everyone else voted for Zelensky. Well, at least Zelensky was born and raised in the middle of the country and has a Ukrainian wife.

    Replies: @Beckow

  778. @silviosilver
    @A123

    Truly the most fitting end for an inhumane Israel-first troll like you would be suffocating on a Jewish cock half way down your throat.

    Anyway, to everyone else (except Israel123 and his favorite country), a very merry Christmas! (And since I know you're all deeply interested in my personal life - :) - I haven't been deliberately staying away from the OT's, just had a very full social calendar. It's been a good year in that respect.)

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @Mikel

    Merry Christmas to you, too, and to yours.

  779. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    similar in Russia
     
    In Russia, especially after the internet there are a lot of audiophile groups which are recycling equipment of the 1980s and 1970s. The social media group of Vasiliy Zaytsev has a lot of those fans of 1980s equipment
    https://vk.com/retrosoundshop

    But, maybe 99% of the people of the group are men older than 30 years old .

    Young people mainly don't have much interest except headphones. Also general culture of interest about electronics falling as the education system progressively died and there is loss of possibility of jobs in electronics as a career in Russia.


    clique of friends, it was easy to make the change from vinyl to CD’s. The overall quality of sound was much better, and the insane level of hissing and pops that was always present in the background of vinyl records

     

    Lack of hissing was a demand of classical music fans. That's how Sony-Philips was marketing for years before the format launches in 1982.

    I'm not sure it's really so important for less dynamic music as today people don't seem to dislike the hissing in vinyl.

    CDs were a kind of luxury product for the first few years. Quality and design of the consumer electronics in those times when they made them in Japan was just a different level compared to today now most everything is from third world countries and value engineering.

    Some of those 1980s players are like something from a higher civilization. The spacious layout of the main board for the Elna and Nichicon caps.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnaCeFpskh0

    Replies: @QCIC

    Hissing is great, it drowns out the ringing in my ears 🙂

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @QCIC

    Today, we only hear hissing with vinyl or cassettes, which is having for us Pavlovian association to focused voluntary listening to good music, maybe using antique equipment and good speakers.

    This is contrast with the non-hissing sounds of undesired digital music we hear all day involuntarily as a kind of noise pollution in the supermarket, YouTube adverts and television shows.

    But I wonder for people like Mr Hack who are older and can remember the introduction of digital music in the 1980s/1990s, they could have at least in that epoch the opposite association than today.

    When CDs were new, it was this luxury product for music fans, which was associated with focused voluntary listening to good music. So, if you imagine in 1982, the lack of hissing in the Beethoven symphony would imply are carefully listening to digital music which would be consciously selected, probably using good speakers by the reliable electronic equipment from Japan.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  780. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history’s most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

     

    However pernicious its legacy may be I don't think the prominence and prestige of the Frankfurt School (to give an example of a group of prominent mainly culturally German philosophers) in the post-war decades can be denied. So to draw the line at the 1930s I don't think quite fits.

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It’s like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.
     
    But my point is that Israel as Hogwarts is the main base of Western popular support/approval of Israel. One of the main criteria that is used to buttress Israel's special status in the Western worldview is precisely that Israel is superior racially (in the conservative perspective)/culturally (in the liberal perspective) to its neighbours.

    If Israel is just yet another Qurac, then what the hell are we doing?

    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Israel is superior to its neighbours.

    It depends if we use Western post-Enlightenment concepts or the “Eastern” or pre-Enlightenment concepts?

    In view of many people in the Arab or Muslim world, Israel is “weaker than a spiders’ web”. Since probably with the withdrawing from Sinai in 1982 and later Oslo 1993, Israel is viewed by the Arab street as a weak country which loses every war since 1967, doesn’t have willpower, always folds to international pressure, cannot have security for its civilians, regularly loses honor and is scared of children with stones. While many of the Arab street believe they have stronger willpower, commitment and solidarity, Israel is viewed as decadent,* not able to sacrifice for its strategic objectives, releases thousands of terrorists for some hostage or dead bodies, can be defeated in the international propaganda by tricks.

    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.

    But from the Western view? If you use the Western measurements, Israel is more developed than most of Europe in areas like economic complexity, scientific knowledge and probably some legal areas like property rights.

    If they solve the security problem, the economic level would probably bypass every European country except places like Switzerland, Norway or Luxembourg. Even although Israel is a security disaster country, which is viewed as weaker than a spiders’ web by the Arab world, from the Western measurements it seems to be progressing, while the neighbors don’t change.

    In the Western indicators like GDP per capita they are going to bypass Sweden this year. While their neighbors almost don’t change for decades.

    It’s one of few areas in the world with border between the first and third world. If you think about few examples there are in the world, of the countries with border between the first world and third world. USA-Mexico border, intra-Korean border, and there was the Singapore-Malaysia border (today Malaysia is a middle income country).

    Israel has borders with third world Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Gaza and West Bank. Israel has at least numerically more borders between the first world and third world, than in all the rest of the world.

    So, it’s geographically unexpected extension of the developed world to Western Asia.

    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

    But we are talking about perceptions of the 1950s/1960s. Israel was like a refugee camp and military camp of the 1950s. You can see in the buildings of the cities today which are still like a refugee camp.

    There are a lot of cities in Israel where the buildings look worse than Gaza. It’s a trace of how cheap and rapid the situation was there in the 1950s. Although paradoxically they managed the security better in those years and they had a lot more deterrence in relation to the Arab world, compared to the situation now when Israel is viewed as weak in the Muslim world.

    In the Eastern view, the 1950s/1960s of Israel was very successful and the Arabs was scared about it.

    But in the Western view, the 1950s/1960s Israel was probably not somewhere you want to live. Every night trying to sleep there without airconditioning is an anti-luxury.

    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

    But the disappoint which would could be seen in an objective way is the failure of their security system. The idea the problem is Arendt’s view of the culture, conformism or “half-Asiatic”, is a very subjective and probably depends on political views which are almost like a religion.

    *There are probably more progressed indications of this in Western European countries from the Eastern view.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Dmitry


    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas,
     
    Netanyahu responded to the Veggie-In-Chief's entreaties by ignoring him. Granted, every foreign leader does that to the fake president.

    International pressure is not causing Jews to abandon minimum necessary actions. Even if Netanyahu is displaced, the same policies will continue.

    while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term
     
    Violent Islam has been waiting for the last 70 years and it has not worked. There is every reason to believe that another 700 will not displace indigenous Palestinian Jews from their religious homelands.

    Instead of continuing failed strategy, why not look for real solutions? The Abraham Accords foreshadow such a change.

    Suitcases may be an impending event due to physical reality;
        • How many people can Gaza fresh water support? ~0.5 Million.
        • How many Muslims are in Gaza? ~2.5 Million.
    It is telling that none of the posters backing Hamas ethnic cleansing ever address this tangible reality.

    Unless a radical breakthrough for inexpensive desalinization occurs, a modified version of your "suitcase" prediction will likely come to pass. It would be wise for Islam to embrace the Right of Religious Return sooner rather than later. That would allow for an orderly exit from the Jihadist colony in Gaza.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @AP
    @Dmitry

    I'm not participating in this specific discussion but want to thank you guys for it. It makes for interesting reading.

    , @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.
     
    What are you talking about? Even a devastating failure like 7th October was in the end, even if psychologically scarring, unable to seriously threaten the Israeli state.

    Half a century ago Israel faced a full-scale invasion, today even with the massive bombing campaign upsetting the muslims the only ones actively attacking are the Houthis (with the Iranians using them as proxies). Egypt and Jordan are standing by. Erdogan is just blowing hit air and using the war as an opportunity to bomb Kurdish villages. Syria is occupied by internal problems and Israel bombs targets in Damascus at will, openly travelling over Lebanese airspace. Hezbollah is pursuing a bit of shelling, but despite their immense bravado is only tying down Israeli troops with shelling and the threat of intervening (but not actually doing it). The UAE, KSA and Bahrain are even helping Israel try and circumvent the Houthis' naval campaign.

    Israel isn't facing any sanctions like South Africa or domestic lack of legitimacy like South Vietnam. Despite how it may seem short-term, from a historical context present-day Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.

    I would also like to add that in addition to the military aid, the USA spent an equal amount of money to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Dmitry

  781. @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    speak for diaspora Jews, this also necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews
     
    Her evaluation probably from the German philosophy and political theory, for her friends who are the circle of German philosophy and political theory. Maybe also with some views about a possibility of immigration for herself.

    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history's most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

    For the obvious reasons, Israel would not be somewhere to expect her culture to survive beyond the first generation of the immigrants from Germany and more people there were probably interested to lose German culture than to continue it.


    necessitates an evaluation by diaspora Jews of how far they have that right.

     

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It's like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.

    Or one can turn Israel into a blank slate where one can project whatever joyful idea is desired while still retaining one’s own

     

    If you create a country using immigrants from all the Catholic countries, you would have as basis for the statement building all these immigrants like Catholics from Colombia, India, Africa, Filipinos, Germans, Irish, Hungarians, Italians.

    Obviously with such a blank state building, when the German culture was still prestigious, people would want more German culture, less Colombian culture.

    In the 19th century, when Meiji Japan or Russian empire is modernizing, importing German concepts, culture and expertise is prioritized.

    But not many people would prioritize German culture after the 1930s, especially in the example when Germany had persecuted the group who is doing statebuilding. Even especially immigrants from Germany, will be trying to remove the culture.


    They defeat a coalition of the locals, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia in an awe-inspiring display of martial fervour and the Ruritanians set out to distinctly mark that this land is part of the Ruritanian state and not just another Latin American country. You decide to visit… and it turns out to just be another Latin American country.

     

    You would expect before the visit the country will be a mix of military camp and refugee camp. Probably strictly management and collectivist, with features like the highest military spending as proportion of the economy in the world. So, you would expect a culture like 1950s/1960s Israel. So, someone to expect they would visit Heidelberg would be strange and just applying to the incorrect country.

    Eventually, Israel radically liberalized socially, econmoically and politically in the 1980s/1990s. It becomes a luxury Western country in 2000s/2010s, with individualist culture. Proportion of military spending falls 5 times. But the security level also seems to fall and the military attainments fall.

    If you consider the expectations vs. reality of the 1950s/1960s. Reality would have been more successful than most peoples' rational expectation. Ben-Gurion has similar attainments as Stalin in some aspects, with many less years. By the time, Ben-Gurion died, Israel early space programme, nuclear weapons, intercontinental ballistic missiles. Within 10 years, they build for people in refugee camps, higher or similar standard of living as the Soviet Union in the 1970s, which required more than 50 years of Soviet attainments.

    But compared to Stalin, Ben-Gurion and other Israeli leaders were weak and humanitarian in terms of the demographic aspect of the state building, not completely winning of internal and external wars, giving inheritance for later conflicts. Stalin would have deported the Arab population within a few weeks, if he followed his policies like the total Chechen population deported to Kazakhstan in a few weeks in 1944. Stalin wouldn't have followed Israeli policies like avoiding military victory in the end (in 1973).

    It's in the specific dimension of the security where the reality has been usually far worse than expectations for Israel. There is not anything rational in the perspective of Arendt that the problem was culture or to be "half-Asiatic".

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Emil Nikola Richard

    In my Biblical Archaeology book there is a picture of a ceremonial knife that has the Priestly Benediction in proto Hebrew etched into it. I forget when it was dug up but it was absolutely 20th century. There is a possibility the discovery date was after the time when Hannah Arendt described Israel as meaningless. There are Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in the 1940’s that still do not have accepted English translations.

    Arendt was wrong. Israel is a fascinating place if you are curious about certain subjects. Just not modern philosophy or culture. Poor old woman was kind of stuck in a rut. She peaked too young.

  782. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage
     
    Just goes to show you can't even pass for a fantasist 4th generation American Banderite - even they would not could out with such blatant lack of knowledge and attention-whoring stupidity. Even when they are lying , its easy to see that they are at "Ukrainian" descendent. You don't even have that quality - just exposing yourself as some extremely disturbed weirdo.

    Here is who runs 404.
    (((Zelensky)))
    Defence Minister Umerov, previous Defence Minister......Reznikov, I think both their assistants Russian
    Strategic Industries - Riabkin (before)
    Prime Minister - Shmeigal, longest PM since Maidan coup (((Groizman)))
    Education Minister& Vice PM...Fedorov
    Education - Lisoviy
    Kamishin- Strategic Industries
    Minister of Kulture - some dickhead called Karandiev
    Ministry of Infrastructure - Kubrakov
    Most notorious scumbag politician in 404 since the coup and longest-serving MIA........Avakov
    Most important diplomatic position for this fake country ruled from outside.........Makarova
    Zelenskys Chief embezzler (sorry of Staff).....(((Yermak)))&Russian
    The wakjob Budanov
    Chief Prosecutor.......Kostin, preceeded by Venediktova
    Head of civil service..Alyushina
    SBU , as is of course totally normal....his "comedy" friend, Bakanov, was its head for 3 of the last 4
    Supreme Court, if my memory is correct last appointment was a Donetsk judge - and either then of the constitutional court it is majority Russian names you retard
    And of course that authentic "Ukrainian"..........Alexey Danilov head of SNBO
    Manager of football team - Rebrov
    Minister of Health - that true Ukrainian patriotic name.....Maxim Stepanov

    The Israeli cabinet is more Ukrainian than the Ukrainian one you dumb bag of excrement. LMAO.
    Russian government is more "Ukrainian" probably too.

    The "Human Rights commisioner" (LOL) who was in charge of all the "Bucha" and "rape" fakes.......Denisova


    It is shockingly amusing just how non-khokhol, khokholstan is you retard. There are some Poles and non-public Jews I omitted and the fact the country is run by foreign politicians

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    Thanks for the list.

    I still believe Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don’t think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) ‘bona fides‘. Do you believe these politicians and bureaucrats on your list have any real power or are they puppets as well?

    Russia is probably pressuring the oligarchs or other true leaders in Ukraine to change the power structure and break the destructive Western ties. This may be a touchy process depending on how the Russian Jewish oligarchs fit into the picture.

    • Thanks: Gerard1234
    • Replies: @A123
    @QCIC

    Zelensky demonstrated his anti-Semitic bona fides when he travelled to Israel and intentionally offended Palestinian Jews. (1)


    Members of the opposition were even harsher than Hendel in their condemnation of Zelensky’s speech.

    Likud MK Yuval Steinitz said it “borders on Holocaust denial.”

    “War is always a terrible thing… but every comparison between a regular war, as difficult as it is, and the extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers in the framework of the Final Solution is a complete distortion of history,” he said in a statement.

    A number of Religious Zionism MKs also criticized Zelensky, with the far-right opposition party’s leader, Bezalel Smotrich, slamming the Holocaust comparisons and accusing the Ukrainian leader of trying “to rewrite history and erase the involvement of the Ukrainian people in the extermination of Jews.”

    Religious Zionism MK Simcha Rotman rejected Zelensky’s request that Israel treat Ukrainians the same way Zelensky claimed Ukraine treated Jews during the Holocaust.

     

    Likud and the religious parties are no longer in opposition. They are currently the governing majority.
    ____

    Try this instead.

    Zelensky is a puppet operated by non-Jewish masters, such as Merkel, Scholz, and Macron. Feel free to throw in some oligarchs. The bottom line remains his service the European Empire, which is dominated by Islamophiles.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ____________________________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    , @Beckow
    @QCIC


    Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don’t think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) ‘bona fides‘.
     
    Zelko is a puppet with so many strings that even he doesn't now know why he is there. He was asked to play a role and as an actor he embraced it but took it too far. The BoJo thing in April 2022 was pure idiocy...like when a Shakespearian drama needs a push toward more tragedy.

    But nobody told him the ending. Now he is like the fish out of the water: scared, frantic, twisting and paralyzed at the same time - like a Christmas carp as the water drains. A short loser in the Che outfit, unshaven, threatening and scared. This is good stuff...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Gerard1234
    @QCIC

    There are masses of Russians and Jews in important positions of power in Ukraine that I forgot to add -other government ministers, state agencies, banks, big companies etc.
    I forgot people like Klimkin who was Foreign Minister under Valtsman/Poroshenko, Serskiy - head of army and many others. Even though I knew they were in a minority, even I am shocked

    As for the power issue - I don't think any of these trash has any actual power - the state is completely run by foreign powers.
    What is does though have a large ruling "elite" scum and bureaucracy who are receiving masses of foreign money, far over Ukraine GDP, in a country with unknown number of people living there, based on already massively inflated numbers based on a census done 23 years ago.
    It's the most simple, high-earning corruption scheme in history and gives the officials zero incentive to stop the masses of ukrop cannon fodder getting annihilated and to end the SMO.

    , @Gerard1234
    @QCIC

    Many thanks. Apologies for my post there not being neat, or the list as comprehensive as it actually should be- I was in a rush as had to get to a busy but enjoyable night yesterday. I will do a better review next time.

    There are masses of Russians and Jews in important positions of power in Ukraine that I forgot to add -other government ministers, state agencies, banks, big companies etc.
    I forgot people like Klimkin who was Foreign Minister under Valtsman/Poroshenko, Serskiy - head of army and many others.
    I am not sure what ethnicity Zaluzhniy name is, though this scumbag is a stereotypical gopnik - what a disgrace that plankton like this is head of VSU.

    Even though I knew they were in a minority, even I am shocked at the total lack of khokhols running the country. Not shocked for Banderastan that "derussification" results in extreme russification of their ruling elite. LMAO

    As for the power issue - I don't think any of these trash has any actual power - the state is completely run by foreign powers.
    What is does have though is a large ruling "elite" scum and bureaucracy who are receiving masses of foreign money, far over Ukraine GDP, in a country with unknown number of people living there, based on already massively inflated numbers based on a census done 23 years ago.
    It's the most simple, high-earning corruption scheme in history and gives the officials zero incentive to stop the masses of ukrop cannon fodder getting annihilated and to end the SMO.

    There is something both scientific and amusing here though. The near total lack of "yuk" "yak" "chuk" etc ending familia for ukronazis current ruling elite............ or even in the Galician/UPA or whatever excrement "nationalist" movements in the early 20th century to the 1950s!!!

    Those names are emphatically concentrated in the west of the country (spasticsville), but are disproportionately low in getting to the top in 404. Those rare ones who did - their ancestors almost all moved to Novorossiya or Kiev.
    Of course in Russia there are huge numbers of yuk, yak, chuk etc guys who have made great success of their lives after their ancestors moved east (particularly in Soviet time), but from a scientific view those with these names who always were in the west of 404 have for centuries been the worst of the worst. Lived in the worst part of Europe,been treated like sh*t by their Polish slaveowners, had the worst education, worst health, least rights, inbreeding, by far the lowest viewed ethnic group in the empire they were in - and it directly shows in ukrop composition in power and the schizophrenia there.
    Those who weren't completely brain dead, or were the most enthusiastic at c*ck-sucking their Polish masters, did get allowed to adopt their Polish slaveowners name as their own (e.g ending in 'skiy' but still being non-Pole) and scientifically it appears to show in them doing better than the yak or yuk guys....and in having much more involvement or trust in Austrian/polish ukrop fake-nationalism movement

  783. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    German philosophy was influential for about 150 years. It conquers the world beginning in now Kaliningrad of Kant, ending with her friends like Heideggar.

    She was part of a very elite circle, in one of history’s most important groups. But she was in the last generation of this and the roots of German intellectual culture was mostly killed around the 1930s.

     

    However pernicious its legacy may be I don't think the prominence and prestige of the Frankfurt School (to give an example of a group of prominent mainly culturally German philosophers) in the post-war decades can be denied. So to draw the line at the 1930s I don't think quite fits.

    From the perspective which is especially Jewish or Christian, Israel is disneyland. It’s like Hogwarts for Harry Potter fans. From the Jewish view, they can see all the more unusual groups like Ethiopian Jews, Yemeni Jews, speak Hebrew as the normal language. For religious Christians, half of the cities where Jesus, they walk around them still today. Those evaluations are irrelevant from the normal viewpoint though.

    But judging in the opposite way from the lack of similarity to some idealized Europe, is also going to be quite an irrational and based in fantasies.
     
    But my point is that Israel as Hogwarts is the main base of Western popular support/approval of Israel. One of the main criteria that is used to buttress Israel's special status in the Western worldview is precisely that Israel is superior racially (in the conservative perspective)/culturally (in the liberal perspective) to its neighbours.

    If Israel is just yet another Qurac, then what the hell are we doing?

    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

    Replies: @Dmitry, @Emil Nikola Richard

    However pernicious its legacy may be I don’t think the prominence and prestige of the Frankfurt School (to give an example of a group of prominent mainly culturally German philosophers) in the post-war decades can be denied. So to draw the line at the 1930s I don’t think quite fits.

    Watch out. The days of Wilhelm Reich are yet to be!

  784. @QCIC
    @Dmitry

    Hissing is great, it drowns out the ringing in my ears :)

    Replies: @Dmitry

    Today, we only hear hissing with vinyl or cassettes, which is having for us Pavlovian association to focused voluntary listening to good music, maybe using antique equipment and good speakers.

    This is contrast with the non-hissing sounds of undesired digital music we hear all day involuntarily as a kind of noise pollution in the supermarket, YouTube adverts and television shows.

    But I wonder for people like Mr Hack who are older and can remember the introduction of digital music in the 1980s/1990s, they could have at least in that epoch the opposite association than today.

    When CDs were new, it was this luxury product for music fans, which was associated with focused voluntary listening to good music. So, if you imagine in 1982, the lack of hissing in the Beethoven symphony would imply are carefully listening to digital music which would be consciously selected, probably using good speakers by the reliable electronic equipment from Japan.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    The better the turntable and the diamond in the needle cartridge, the less hissing you would hear. A good friend of mine had better equipment than I, and everything was quite tolerable and we enjoyed high quality music that way for years. Yet, he was the first one in the neighborhood that made the switch to CD's, and he never turned back. He kept his mass of records and his turntable operable for years, and would occasionally use it whenever he wanted to listen to something that he didn't own on CD or couldn't find on CD. He actually would buy many CD's of records that he already owned on vinyl, so slanted was his preference for CD's. When he was considerably older and came upon financial hard times he ended up selling his whole large record library.

    Replies: @QCIC

  785. @Dmitry
    @QCIC

    Today, we only hear hissing with vinyl or cassettes, which is having for us Pavlovian association to focused voluntary listening to good music, maybe using antique equipment and good speakers.

    This is contrast with the non-hissing sounds of undesired digital music we hear all day involuntarily as a kind of noise pollution in the supermarket, YouTube adverts and television shows.

    But I wonder for people like Mr Hack who are older and can remember the introduction of digital music in the 1980s/1990s, they could have at least in that epoch the opposite association than today.

    When CDs were new, it was this luxury product for music fans, which was associated with focused voluntary listening to good music. So, if you imagine in 1982, the lack of hissing in the Beethoven symphony would imply are carefully listening to digital music which would be consciously selected, probably using good speakers by the reliable electronic equipment from Japan.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The better the turntable and the diamond in the needle cartridge, the less hissing you would hear. A good friend of mine had better equipment than I, and everything was quite tolerable and we enjoyed high quality music that way for years. Yet, he was the first one in the neighborhood that made the switch to CD’s, and he never turned back. He kept his mass of records and his turntable operable for years, and would occasionally use it whenever he wanted to listen to something that he didn’t own on CD or couldn’t find on CD. He actually would buy many CD’s of records that he already owned on vinyl, so slanted was his preference for CD’s. When he was considerably older and came upon financial hard times he ended up selling his whole large record library.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Some of the early CD players reportedly did not sound that great even though there was little added noise in the process (noise is not the only issue). This was blamed on perceptible limitations in the digital-to-analog reconstruction circuitry which were later addressed. The bigger problem which has already been mentioned is that many classic recordings were re-mixed for the CD product, supposedly to take advantage of the CD medium but more likely to indulge the people doing the mixing.

    Some claim that analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records and does not have any perceived artifacts from digitization and reconstruction. It seems to be making a tiny comeback for people who have both a lot of money and a lot of time.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  786. @silviosilver
    @A123

    Truly the most fitting end for an inhumane Israel-first troll like you would be suffocating on a Jewish cock half way down your throat.

    Anyway, to everyone else (except Israel123 and his favorite country), a very merry Christmas! (And since I know you're all deeply interested in my personal life - :) - I haven't been deliberately staying away from the OT's, just had a very full social calendar. It's been a good year in that respect.)

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @Mikel

    From the Third Sunday of Advent: (1)

    Reading 1 — Is 61:1-2A, 10-11

    The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me,
    because the LORD has anointed me;
    he has sent me to bring glad tidings to the poor,
    to heal the brokenhearted,
    to proclaim liberty to the captives
    and release to the prisoners,
    to announce a year of favor from the LORD
    and a day of vindication by our God.

    I rejoice heartily in the LORD,
    in my God is the joy of my soul;
    for he has clothed me with a robe of salvation
    and wrapped me in a mantle of justice,
    like a bridegroom adorned with a diadem,
    like a bride bedecked with her jewels.
    As the earth brings forth its plants,
    and a garden makes its growth spring up,
    so will the Lord GOD make justice and praise
    spring up before all the nations.

    ✝️ 🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄 ☦️
    ___________________________________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/17/third-sunday-of-advent-3/

  787. @AP
    @Beckow


    You are wrong about where the central Ukraine will go – the region is too strategic for Russia to allow outright hostility.
     
    Unless they conquer, occupy and garrison it (or ethnically cleanse almost everyone) that is what they will have there - outright hostility. Arestovich is not popular there. He may have some support in Kharkiv, at most. He can be the new face of the pro-Russian opposition minority.

    Russia will make the rules after the war and Kiev will be more like the south-east than like Galicia.
     
    Again, only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.

    But they are losing.
     
    Keep telling yourself that, as nothing much changes.

    Arestovich was a high-level radical war supporter – he has now changed his views.
     
    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky's entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts and became bitter. His statements do not reflect the view of people in Kiev or changing views in Ukraine, but rather his personal conflicts and breakdown in relations with his former colleagues. Analogous, I suppose, to someone like Kasyanov in Russia who was Putin's PM but became anti-Putin after things didn't work out for him, and now lives in Riga.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Beckow

    …only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.

    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks. The leaders will change and many anti-Russians will leave out of frustration and fear. There will be recriminations against the people who led Ukraine to the disaster – Maidan and the war will not be celebrated but seen as unnecessary carnage and a fool’s errand on behalf of Nato.

    Central Ukraine doesn’t have to be occupied – that would be self-defeating. But your blind belief that there wouldn’t be enough Ukies willing to accommodate Russia and benefit is naive and ahistorical – there always are many people who live in the present. It first helped the Maidanistas and after a defeat it will be the reverse.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow, happy the war is over, saying things like “we never agreed to the radical nationalist closing of the Russian schools or with Bandera marches” and “we never cared for Nato” or “Nato betrayed us”…the focus will be on the horrific costs to Ukraine, destroyed infrastructure, lost lands, thousands of dead, millions who left permanently.

    There are always die-hards and their adventures would be covered in the West to cover up the loss. But with time the population would mostly turn on them due to the mayhem they are causing. People want normalcy more than anything else, the passionate damn-the-consequences fights last a few years and then fizzle out.

    Arestovich is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts

    Zelko is also a non-ethnic Ukie, and so are the prime ministers, etc…you have to dig deep and hard to find “pure Ukrainians”. But whatever, if that is your thing.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly. These are signals from people who are looking for the way out – offering the de facto restoration of the Yanuk’s status quo ante of a multi-cultural and neutral Ukraine would work. Of course sans Crimea, Donbas…Or at least it may appeal to Russia enough to buy time. But Arestovich is not bullsh.ing or settling personal scores – he is too smart and well connected for that.

    It is an opening gambit – offers to negotiate. There is a chance that Russia will bite and agree to a restored Yanuk-like Ukraine with new leaders and this time better guarantees. And we will get some peace. We would very much welcome it, the stupidity and lost business are not fun.

    Having Russia as our neighbor on the Carpathians benefits nobody, not us, nor Russia or EU. It is almost as bad as the raving Banderites marches there. No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying – we did a Sabine-women raid without having to move a finger, how great is that? They also make fantastic macchiatos…

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Beckow

    They’ll kill half a dozen of the Zelenskyyites now. Can’t let these Jewish shits and their enablers get away with it.

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks.
     
    The nature of such a loss would have to be the conquest of Kiev and central Ukraine. Because no government from this region would acquiesce to Putin's demands of so-called demilitarization, so-called de-Nazification, etc.

    Central Ukraine doesn’t have to be occupied – that would be self-defeating.
     
    That would be the only way of having a non-hostile state there.

    Because a conquest of central Ukraine is extremely unlikely, there will be a state hostile to Russia there.

    And if a conquest were to occur, most of the population would simply leave and settle in other countries. This would contribute to those countries becoming more anti-Russian. Imagine a million fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainians living in your Slovakia. Fico would be in trouble.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow
     
    You are too dumb to realize that Ukrainians are not Slovaks. Neither are Balts, or Poles, or many other peoples. You go with the flow, we do not.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly.
     
    He was thrown out for saying silly things publicly.

    No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying
     
    The ones from the West and Center have largely returned. The Easterners not so much, it is dangerous in their lands. You might want to be careful with STDs from those Easterners, it's the epicenter. Good luck.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

  788. @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    Israel is superior to its neighbours.
     
    It depends if we use Western post-Enlightenment concepts or the "Eastern" or pre-Enlightenment concepts?

    In view of many people in the Arab or Muslim world, Israel is "weaker than a spiders' web". Since probably with the withdrawing from Sinai in 1982 and later Oslo 1993, Israel is viewed by the Arab street as a weak country which loses every war since 1967, doesn't have willpower, always folds to international pressure, cannot have security for its civilians, regularly loses honor and is scared of children with stones. While many of the Arab street believe they have stronger willpower, commitment and solidarity, Israel is viewed as decadent,* not able to sacrifice for its strategic objectives, releases thousands of terrorists for some hostage or dead bodies, can be defeated in the international propaganda by tricks.

    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.

    But from the Western view? If you use the Western measurements, Israel is more developed than most of Europe in areas like economic complexity, scientific knowledge and probably some legal areas like property rights.

    If they solve the security problem, the economic level would probably bypass every European country except places like Switzerland, Norway or Luxembourg. Even although Israel is a security disaster country, which is viewed as weaker than a spiders' web by the Arab world, from the Western measurements it seems to be progressing, while the neighbors don't change.

    In the Western indicators like GDP per capita they are going to bypass Sweden this year. While their neighbors almost don't change for decades.

    https://i.imgur.com/qn0NPAR.jpg

    It's one of few areas in the world with border between the first and third world. If you think about few examples there are in the world, of the countries with border between the first world and third world. USA-Mexico border, intra-Korean border, and there was the Singapore-Malaysia border (today Malaysia is a middle income country).

    Israel has borders with third world Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Gaza and West Bank. Israel has at least numerically more borders between the first world and third world, than in all the rest of the world.

    So, it's geographically unexpected extension of the developed world to Western Asia.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But we are talking about perceptions of the 1950s/1960s. Israel was like a refugee camp and military camp of the 1950s. You can see in the buildings of the cities today which are still like a refugee camp.

    There are a lot of cities in Israel where the buildings look worse than Gaza. It's a trace of how cheap and rapid the situation was there in the 1950s. Although paradoxically they managed the security better in those years and they had a lot more deterrence in relation to the Arab world, compared to the situation now when Israel is viewed as weak in the Muslim world.

    In the Eastern view, the 1950s/1960s of Israel was very successful and the Arabs was scared about it.

    But in the Western view, the 1950s/1960s Israel was probably not somewhere you want to live. Every night trying to sleep there without airconditioning is an anti-luxury.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But the disappoint which would could be seen in an objective way is the failure of their security system. The idea the problem is Arendt's view of the culture, conformism or "half-Asiatic", is a very subjective and probably depends on political views which are almost like a religion.

    -

    *There are probably more progressed indications of this in Western European countries from the Eastern view.

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Hyperborean

    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas,

    Netanyahu responded to the Veggie-In-Chief’s entreaties by ignoring him. Granted, every foreign leader does that to the fake president.

    International pressure is not causing Jews to abandon minimum necessary actions. Even if Netanyahu is displaced, the same policies will continue.

    while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term

    Violent Islam has been waiting for the last 70 years and it has not worked. There is every reason to believe that another 700 will not displace indigenous Palestinian Jews from their religious homelands.

    Instead of continuing failed strategy, why not look for real solutions? The Abraham Accords foreshadow such a change.

    Suitcases may be an impending event due to physical reality;
        • How many people can Gaza fresh water support? ~0.5 Million.
        • How many Muslims are in Gaza? ~2.5 Million.
    It is telling that none of the posters backing Hamas ethnic cleansing ever address this tangible reality.

    Unless a radical breakthrough for inexpensive desalinization occurs, a modified version of your “suitcase” prediction will likely come to pass. It would be wise for Islam to embrace the Right of Religious Return sooner rather than later. That would allow for an orderly exit from the Jihadist colony in Gaza.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Cheap solar electricity (photovoltaic) and revived nuclear power will improve the water desalination cost situation in many places.

  789. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    The better the turntable and the diamond in the needle cartridge, the less hissing you would hear. A good friend of mine had better equipment than I, and everything was quite tolerable and we enjoyed high quality music that way for years. Yet, he was the first one in the neighborhood that made the switch to CD's, and he never turned back. He kept his mass of records and his turntable operable for years, and would occasionally use it whenever he wanted to listen to something that he didn't own on CD or couldn't find on CD. He actually would buy many CD's of records that he already owned on vinyl, so slanted was his preference for CD's. When he was considerably older and came upon financial hard times he ended up selling his whole large record library.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Some of the early CD players reportedly did not sound that great even though there was little added noise in the process (noise is not the only issue). This was blamed on perceptible limitations in the digital-to-analog reconstruction circuitry which were later addressed. The bigger problem which has already been mentioned is that many classic recordings were re-mixed for the CD product, supposedly to take advantage of the CD medium but more likely to indulge the people doing the mixing.

    Some claim that analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records and does not have any perceived artifacts from digitization and reconstruction. It seems to be making a tiny comeback for people who have both a lot of money and a lot of time.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @QCIC


    early CD players reportedly did not sound
     
    This is probably unfair although I think we can infer the explanations for why some people experienced "harsh" sound when CDs were introduced in the 1980s.

    A blogger even tested this buying of an 1986 Technics CD player. You can see in his results it added +0,6 db at 15 kHz, although only around +0,2 db at 10 kHz.

    Would this create negative effect you could hear? Compared to more recent CD players? No. You are not going to notice only +0,2 db at 10 kHz.

    So what are the explanations for the view of early CDs are harsh?

    In terms of the hardware explanation, I would guess it is because people were comparing to vinyl, when there was often roll off on the cartridges even earlier than 10 kHz. For example, frequency response of Shure cartridges of 1970s look like a downhill ski race. Also, if you don't replace the cartridges they would develop roll off as they are aging.

    This theory would be some of the consumers of vinyl were habituated to roll-off. So, maybe the CD was viewed as harsh just because it didn't have roll off.


    digital-to-analog reconstruction circuitry which were later addressed. The bigger problem which has already been mentioned is that many classic recordings were re-mixed for the CD product, supposedly to take advantage of the CD

     

    With early digital recordings, the engineers were newbies with using of the new equipment so the rate of mistakes could have been higher, understanding of the best practices could have been lower.

    There are also often problems when the analogue recordings are digitally remastered. So, Deutsche Grammophon and EMI of 1990s have made really strange digital remastering of the analogues recordings for their CD releasing of analogue recordings.

    Also some of the 1980s Deutsch Grammophon digital recordings which sound strange even for my amateur hearing.


    analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records

     

    Lol those are the most wealthy and serious music fans with the 15 IPS reel-to-reel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDMJSg0a5u0

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  790. @QCIC
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for the list.

    I still believe Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don't think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) 'bona fides'. Do you believe these politicians and bureaucrats on your list have any real power or are they puppets as well?

    Russia is probably pressuring the oligarchs or other true leaders in Ukraine to change the power structure and break the destructive Western ties. This may be a touchy process depending on how the Russian Jewish oligarchs fit into the picture.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow, @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    Zelensky demonstrated his anti-Semitic bona fides when he travelled to Israel and intentionally offended Palestinian Jews. (1)

    Members of the opposition were even harsher than Hendel in their condemnation of Zelensky’s speech.

    Likud MK Yuval Steinitz said it “borders on Holocaust denial.”

    “War is always a terrible thing… but every comparison between a regular war, as difficult as it is, and the extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers in the framework of the Final Solution is a complete distortion of history,” he said in a statement.

    A number of Religious Zionism MKs also criticized Zelensky, with the far-right opposition party’s leader, Bezalel Smotrich, slamming the Holocaust comparisons and accusing the Ukrainian leader of trying “to rewrite history and erase the involvement of the Ukrainian people in the extermination of Jews.”

    Religious Zionism MK Simcha Rotman rejected Zelensky’s request that Israel treat Ukrainians the same way Zelensky claimed Ukraine treated Jews during the Holocaust.

    Likud and the religious parties are no longer in opposition. They are currently the governing majority.
    ____

    Try this instead.

    Zelensky is a puppet operated by non-Jewish masters, such as Merkel, Scholz, and Macron. Feel free to throw in some oligarchs. The bottom line remains his service the European Empire, which is dominated by Islamophiles.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ____________________________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @A123

    Zelensky is blatantly a puppet created by Jewish masters. One might claim that his Ukrainian masters such as Kolomoisky are in turn beholden to outside groups, but it seems likely that those more powerful groups are also Jewish. These weird Jewish contradictions in Ukraine such as Zelensky stirring up the Israeli politicians or Ukraine's outright support for pro-Nazi groups may suggest infighting between Jewish groups vying for control. There is no honor among thieves.

    I still expect that Mossad will play a role in de-Nazification of post-SMO Ukraine. Some Ukrainians will start to get it when this begins.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    , @Mr. Hack
    @A123

    Was the very erudite Raphael Lemkin who opened the door to the serious study of genocide and comparisons between the Holocaust and the Holodomor also an anti-semite?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/twR5P4BFmIjJoihoNY2RBAFANQk=/1440x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/L6Q7A37DLROYGED23IQPP23WNU.jpg
    Raphael Lemkin, the Lviv lawyer who helped draft the Genocide Convention, which maps out prevention and punishment for the crime of genocide.

  791. @A123
    @Dmitry


    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas,
     
    Netanyahu responded to the Veggie-In-Chief's entreaties by ignoring him. Granted, every foreign leader does that to the fake president.

    International pressure is not causing Jews to abandon minimum necessary actions. Even if Netanyahu is displaced, the same policies will continue.

    while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term
     
    Violent Islam has been waiting for the last 70 years and it has not worked. There is every reason to believe that another 700 will not displace indigenous Palestinian Jews from their religious homelands.

    Instead of continuing failed strategy, why not look for real solutions? The Abraham Accords foreshadow such a change.

    Suitcases may be an impending event due to physical reality;
        • How many people can Gaza fresh water support? ~0.5 Million.
        • How many Muslims are in Gaza? ~2.5 Million.
    It is telling that none of the posters backing Hamas ethnic cleansing ever address this tangible reality.

    Unless a radical breakthrough for inexpensive desalinization occurs, a modified version of your "suitcase" prediction will likely come to pass. It would be wise for Islam to embrace the Right of Religious Return sooner rather than later. That would allow for an orderly exit from the Jihadist colony in Gaza.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️

    Replies: @QCIC

    Cheap solar electricity (photovoltaic) and revived nuclear power will improve the water desalination cost situation in many places.

  792. Holiday festivities today in r/MapPorn

  793. @silviosilver
    @A123

    Truly the most fitting end for an inhumane Israel-first troll like you would be suffocating on a Jewish cock half way down your throat.

    Anyway, to everyone else (except Israel123 and his favorite country), a very merry Christmas! (And since I know you're all deeply interested in my personal life - :) - I haven't been deliberately staying away from the OT's, just had a very full social calendar. It's been a good year in that respect.)

    Replies: @AP, @A123, @Mikel

    Merry Christmas to you too. Stop by and let us know if that busy social calendar leads to wedding.

    And Merry Christmas to everyone else, including my dialectical “enemies”. In fact, A123 is not the one doing the heavy lifting for the IDF here. It’s someone else who’s making the untenable claims. For example: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-fails-prove-targeted-gaza-hospital-was-hamas-hub-washington-post But I’ve had more than enough of that discussion in the past months. Whatever.

  794. @songbird
    Is Scholz trying to dismantle AP's dream of PLC being reconstituted, by stationing 5,000 troops in Lithuania?!

    Before Poland gets delivery on its 500 HIMARS.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    The new PLC can use all of the help that it can get.

  795. @A123
    @QCIC

    Zelensky demonstrated his anti-Semitic bona fides when he travelled to Israel and intentionally offended Palestinian Jews. (1)


    Members of the opposition were even harsher than Hendel in their condemnation of Zelensky’s speech.

    Likud MK Yuval Steinitz said it “borders on Holocaust denial.”

    “War is always a terrible thing… but every comparison between a regular war, as difficult as it is, and the extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers in the framework of the Final Solution is a complete distortion of history,” he said in a statement.

    A number of Religious Zionism MKs also criticized Zelensky, with the far-right opposition party’s leader, Bezalel Smotrich, slamming the Holocaust comparisons and accusing the Ukrainian leader of trying “to rewrite history and erase the involvement of the Ukrainian people in the extermination of Jews.”

    Religious Zionism MK Simcha Rotman rejected Zelensky’s request that Israel treat Ukrainians the same way Zelensky claimed Ukraine treated Jews during the Holocaust.

     

    Likud and the religious parties are no longer in opposition. They are currently the governing majority.
    ____

    Try this instead.

    Zelensky is a puppet operated by non-Jewish masters, such as Merkel, Scholz, and Macron. Feel free to throw in some oligarchs. The bottom line remains his service the European Empire, which is dominated by Islamophiles.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ____________________________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    Zelensky is blatantly a puppet created by Jewish masters. One might claim that his Ukrainian masters such as Kolomoisky are in turn beholden to outside groups, but it seems likely that those more powerful groups are also Jewish. These weird Jewish contradictions in Ukraine such as Zelensky stirring up the Israeli politicians or Ukraine’s outright support for pro-Nazi groups may suggest infighting between Jewish groups vying for control. There is no honor among thieves.

    I still expect that Mossad will play a role in de-Nazification of post-SMO Ukraine. Some Ukrainians will start to get it when this begins.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    https://d3pc1xvrcw35tl.cloudfront.net/ln/feedImages/420x315/ANI-20230903113321_202309.jpg
    Who's the master and who's the puppet? Looks to me like Zelensky is exchanging his old "friend" for closer ties to Europe.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    , @A123
    @QCIC

    Zelensky is blatantly a puppet created by non-Jewish masters.

    One might claim that his European owner operators, such as Merkel, are in turn beholden to outside groups. However, those more powerful groups are also Islamophile & anti-Semitic (including the WEF).

    There are few contradictions in Ukraine. Anti-Semite Zelensky intentionally stirring up Palestinian Jewish politicians is in perfect alignment with Ukraine’s outright support for pro-Nazi groups.

    Oligarchs are usually much more aligned to personal power than religious practice. They often make public gifts that do not match their private lives.


    Cheap solar electricity (photovoltaic) and revived nuclear power will improve the water desalination cost situation in many places.
     
    Thorium cycle nuclear SMR's are long over due. But they will likely to be limited to countries running development programs for several decades.

    Incremental developments towards wide angle, organic solar cells routinely appear in research papers. However, this is also decades away from a wide adoption breakthrough.

    There really needs to be planning for the Muslim colony in Gaza that does not rely on speculative technologies. The ones you listed have an exceedingly low chance of availability in the relevant time frame.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️

  796. @QCIC
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for the list.

    I still believe Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don't think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) 'bona fides'. Do you believe these politicians and bureaucrats on your list have any real power or are they puppets as well?

    Russia is probably pressuring the oligarchs or other true leaders in Ukraine to change the power structure and break the destructive Western ties. This may be a touchy process depending on how the Russian Jewish oligarchs fit into the picture.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow, @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don’t think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) ‘bona fides‘.

    Zelko is a puppet with so many strings that even he doesn’t now know why he is there. He was asked to play a role and as an actor he embraced it but took it too far. The BoJo thing in April 2022 was pure idiocy…like when a Shakespearian drama needs a push toward more tragedy.

    But nobody told him the ending. Now he is like the fish out of the water: scared, frantic, twisting and paralyzed at the same time – like a Christmas carp as the water drains. A short loser in the Che outfit, unshaven, threatening and scared. This is good stuff…

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    This is good stuff…
     
    What's really good stuff is not that Zelensky forgot to shave recently, but that Ukrainians were able to knock out three SU-34's just a couple of days ago in the Kherson region near Krienke. These are the very best and most expensive jets that Russia has. If you think about it, this is really huge news on a par with knocking out a large Russian warship on the Black Sea. If I were you, I'd tell your boys to get their act together, so that you can continue to make your glib predictions about an impending Russian victory in Ukraine, otherwise. :-)

    https://youtu.be/CTECy76mOo8

    But wait the news gets even better! Russians down their own SU-25 recently too! The Russian fly-boys must be hitting the Christmas vodka a little bit early this year:

    https://youtu.be/gtOD6cVZwhw

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Derer

  797. @QCIC
    @A123

    Zelensky is blatantly a puppet created by Jewish masters. One might claim that his Ukrainian masters such as Kolomoisky are in turn beholden to outside groups, but it seems likely that those more powerful groups are also Jewish. These weird Jewish contradictions in Ukraine such as Zelensky stirring up the Israeli politicians or Ukraine's outright support for pro-Nazi groups may suggest infighting between Jewish groups vying for control. There is no honor among thieves.

    I still expect that Mossad will play a role in de-Nazification of post-SMO Ukraine. Some Ukrainians will start to get it when this begins.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    Who’s the master and who’s the puppet? Looks to me like Zelensky is exchanging his old “friend” for closer ties to Europe.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Do you understand the meaning of "many strings"? Some are cut and some are added - but a puppet stays a puppet...

    And what is it with the sweat-shirts and Ukies? Like village parvenus they put on the most ridiculous outfits...they have no style.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    When this happened it seemed staged.

    I wonder if the Ukrainian government actually has enough power to publicly arrest Kolomoisky against his will?

  798. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    He is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage
     
    Just goes to show you can't even pass for a fantasist 4th generation American Banderite - even they would not could out with such blatant lack of knowledge and attention-whoring stupidity. Even when they are lying , its easy to see that they are at "Ukrainian" descendent. You don't even have that quality - just exposing yourself as some extremely disturbed weirdo.

    Here is who runs 404.
    (((Zelensky)))
    Defence Minister Umerov, previous Defence Minister......Reznikov, I think both their assistants Russian
    Strategic Industries - Riabkin (before)
    Prime Minister - Shmeigal, longest PM since Maidan coup (((Groizman)))
    Education Minister& Vice PM...Fedorov
    Education - Lisoviy
    Kamishin- Strategic Industries
    Minister of Kulture - some dickhead called Karandiev
    Ministry of Infrastructure - Kubrakov
    Most notorious scumbag politician in 404 since the coup and longest-serving MIA........Avakov
    Most important diplomatic position for this fake country ruled from outside.........Makarova
    Zelenskys Chief embezzler (sorry of Staff).....(((Yermak)))&Russian
    The wakjob Budanov
    Chief Prosecutor.......Kostin, preceeded by Venediktova
    Head of civil service..Alyushina
    SBU , as is of course totally normal....his "comedy" friend, Bakanov, was its head for 3 of the last 4
    Supreme Court, if my memory is correct last appointment was a Donetsk judge - and either then of the constitutional court it is majority Russian names you retard
    And of course that authentic "Ukrainian"..........Alexey Danilov head of SNBO
    Manager of football team - Rebrov
    Minister of Health - that true Ukrainian patriotic name.....Maxim Stepanov

    The Israeli cabinet is more Ukrainian than the Ukrainian one you dumb bag of excrement. LMAO.
    Russian government is more "Ukrainian" probably too.

    The "Human Rights commisioner" (LOL) who was in charge of all the "Bucha" and "rape" fakes.......Denisova


    It is shockingly amusing just how non-khokhol, khokholstan is you retard. There are some Poles and non-public Jews I omitted and the fact the country is run by foreign politicians

    Replies: @QCIC, @AP

    He [Arestovich] is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage

    Arestovich was also born n Georgia, not even in Ukraine.

    (((Zelensky)))

    Born in Ukraine, at least. And has a Ukrainian wife.

    Defence Minister Umerov

    Crimean Tatar. Crimea is officially Ukraine.

    Denys Shmyhal PM

    Jewish native of Lviv.

    Education – Lisoviy

    Ethnic Ukrainian from Kiev. His father was a Ukrainian nationalist anti-Soviet dissident.

    Education Minister& Vice PM…Fedorov

    He is the Deputy Prime Minister for Innovation, Education, Science and Technology/Minister for Digital Transformation. His surname is Russian, but he is from a small mostly ethnic Ukrainian town in Zaporizhia oblast.

    Most important diplomatic position for this fake country ruled from outside………Makarova

    Oksana Markarova (Ukraine’s ambassador to the USA) is of mixed Ukrainian and Armenian descent, from Rivne in western Ukraine. Her given name is a very typical Ukrainian one.

    Ukraine’s foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba is an ethnic Ukrainian from Sumy.

    Most notorious scumbag politician in 404 since the coup and longest-serving MIA……..Avakov

    Avakov, an ethnic Armenian, is no longer interior minister.

    The current one, Ihor Klymenko, is an ethnic Ukrainian from Kiev.

    Ministry of Infrastructure – Kubrakov

    Russian surname, from a city Dnipropetrovsk oblast.

    Zelenskys Chief embezzler (sorry of Staff)…..(((Yermak)))&Russian

    Ethnic Russian mother, Jewish father, born and lived in Kiev.

    Budanov

    Russian surname, born in Kiev.

    SBU , as is of course totally normal….his “comedy” friend, Bakanov

    Bakanov was replaced by Vasyl Malyuk, ethnic Ukrainian from Zhytomir

    Minister of Health – that true Ukrainian patriotic name…..Maxim Stepanov

    Stepanov left office in 2021. It’s now Victor Liashko, ethnic Ukrainian from Rivne in western Ukraine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Liashko

    You forgot the Minister of Agriculture – Mykola Solskyi, ethnic Ukrainian from Lviv

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Your trick is to magnify percentage of the foreigners by including former officials who were not Ukrainians, rather than current ones who are Ukrainian. Anyways, the presence of some Russians among high Ukrainian government contradicts the fairy tale that the government is “genocidal” towards ethnic Russians. And one would expect some ethnic Russians among them, ethnic Russians were about 17% of the population before 2014. And Jews are talented wherever they are. Russia has had a couple Jewish PMs.

    It is shockingly amusing just how non-khokhol, khokholstan is

    Russians are traditionally ruled by foreigners, they are natural at it. Be it Germans like Catherine, or that Georgian whom they love despite his killing millions of them. An unfortunate aspect of Russian cultural influence upon Ukraine is that central and eastern Ukrainians have fallen into the same tendency (though unlike Russians, they at least do not love their Georgian killer). For example in the last presidential election, the Galicians voted for the ethnic Ukrainian Poroshenko (remember when you admitted that you are a gullible fool and kept repeating fairytales that he was Jewish?) but everyone else voted for Zelensky. Well, at least Zelensky was born and raised in the middle of the country and has a Ukrainian wife.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Well, at least Zelensky was born and raised in the middle of the country and has a Ukrainian wife.
     
    Riiiight, you are really scraping the ethnic-purity bottom: "but Herr Obersturmanfurher, I am a mishling, get it? I had a Bavarian mistress once, I think, and look I have lived in Rammstein...so I am ok, am I?"

    Your casual racism on top of your 'merican' moron education is quite amusing. But do you know who has ruled England for hundreds of years? And what were the Habsburgs really "ethnically"? They were heavily inbred, but initially it was quite a melange...then the donkey chin appeared and they were never able to breed it out.

    Replies: @AP

  799. @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    Israel is superior to its neighbours.
     
    It depends if we use Western post-Enlightenment concepts or the "Eastern" or pre-Enlightenment concepts?

    In view of many people in the Arab or Muslim world, Israel is "weaker than a spiders' web". Since probably with the withdrawing from Sinai in 1982 and later Oslo 1993, Israel is viewed by the Arab street as a weak country which loses every war since 1967, doesn't have willpower, always folds to international pressure, cannot have security for its civilians, regularly loses honor and is scared of children with stones. While many of the Arab street believe they have stronger willpower, commitment and solidarity, Israel is viewed as decadent,* not able to sacrifice for its strategic objectives, releases thousands of terrorists for some hostage or dead bodies, can be defeated in the international propaganda by tricks.

    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.

    But from the Western view? If you use the Western measurements, Israel is more developed than most of Europe in areas like economic complexity, scientific knowledge and probably some legal areas like property rights.

    If they solve the security problem, the economic level would probably bypass every European country except places like Switzerland, Norway or Luxembourg. Even although Israel is a security disaster country, which is viewed as weaker than a spiders' web by the Arab world, from the Western measurements it seems to be progressing, while the neighbors don't change.

    In the Western indicators like GDP per capita they are going to bypass Sweden this year. While their neighbors almost don't change for decades.

    https://i.imgur.com/qn0NPAR.jpg

    It's one of few areas in the world with border between the first and third world. If you think about few examples there are in the world, of the countries with border between the first world and third world. USA-Mexico border, intra-Korean border, and there was the Singapore-Malaysia border (today Malaysia is a middle income country).

    Israel has borders with third world Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Gaza and West Bank. Israel has at least numerically more borders between the first world and third world, than in all the rest of the world.

    So, it's geographically unexpected extension of the developed world to Western Asia.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But we are talking about perceptions of the 1950s/1960s. Israel was like a refugee camp and military camp of the 1950s. You can see in the buildings of the cities today which are still like a refugee camp.

    There are a lot of cities in Israel where the buildings look worse than Gaza. It's a trace of how cheap and rapid the situation was there in the 1950s. Although paradoxically they managed the security better in those years and they had a lot more deterrence in relation to the Arab world, compared to the situation now when Israel is viewed as weak in the Muslim world.

    In the Eastern view, the 1950s/1960s of Israel was very successful and the Arabs was scared about it.

    But in the Western view, the 1950s/1960s Israel was probably not somewhere you want to live. Every night trying to sleep there without airconditioning is an anti-luxury.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But the disappoint which would could be seen in an objective way is the failure of their security system. The idea the problem is Arendt's view of the culture, conformism or "half-Asiatic", is a very subjective and probably depends on political views which are almost like a religion.

    -

    *There are probably more progressed indications of this in Western European countries from the Eastern view.

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Hyperborean

    I’m not participating in this specific discussion but want to thank you guys for it. It makes for interesting reading.

  800. @A123
    @QCIC

    Zelensky demonstrated his anti-Semitic bona fides when he travelled to Israel and intentionally offended Palestinian Jews. (1)


    Members of the opposition were even harsher than Hendel in their condemnation of Zelensky’s speech.

    Likud MK Yuval Steinitz said it “borders on Holocaust denial.”

    “War is always a terrible thing… but every comparison between a regular war, as difficult as it is, and the extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers in the framework of the Final Solution is a complete distortion of history,” he said in a statement.

    A number of Religious Zionism MKs also criticized Zelensky, with the far-right opposition party’s leader, Bezalel Smotrich, slamming the Holocaust comparisons and accusing the Ukrainian leader of trying “to rewrite history and erase the involvement of the Ukrainian people in the extermination of Jews.”

    Religious Zionism MK Simcha Rotman rejected Zelensky’s request that Israel treat Ukrainians the same way Zelensky claimed Ukraine treated Jews during the Holocaust.

     

    Likud and the religious parties are no longer in opposition. They are currently the governing majority.
    ____

    Try this instead.

    Zelensky is a puppet operated by non-Jewish masters, such as Merkel, Scholz, and Macron. Feel free to throw in some oligarchs. The bottom line remains his service the European Empire, which is dominated by Islamophiles.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ____________________________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lawmakers-tear-into-zelensky-for-holocaust-comparisons-in-knesset-speech/

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mr. Hack

    Was the very erudite Raphael Lemkin who opened the door to the serious study of genocide and comparisons between the Holocaust and the Holodomor also an anti-semite?

    Raphael Lemkin, the Lviv lawyer who helped draft the Genocide Convention, which maps out prevention and punishment for the crime of genocide.

  801. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    https://d3pc1xvrcw35tl.cloudfront.net/ln/feedImages/420x315/ANI-20230903113321_202309.jpg
    Who's the master and who's the puppet? Looks to me like Zelensky is exchanging his old "friend" for closer ties to Europe.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    Do you understand the meaning of “many strings“? Some are cut and some are added – but a puppet stays a puppet…

    And what is it with the sweat-shirts and Ukies? Like village parvenus they put on the most ridiculous outfits…they have no style.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Ukrainian American superstar actor John Hodiak and his beautiful actress wife Ann Baxter. Real Hollywood royalty, no sweatshirts needed:

    https://tessa2.lapl.org/digital/api/singleitem/image/photos/34543/default.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @Gerard1234

  802. @QCIC
    @A123

    Zelensky is blatantly a puppet created by Jewish masters. One might claim that his Ukrainian masters such as Kolomoisky are in turn beholden to outside groups, but it seems likely that those more powerful groups are also Jewish. These weird Jewish contradictions in Ukraine such as Zelensky stirring up the Israeli politicians or Ukraine's outright support for pro-Nazi groups may suggest infighting between Jewish groups vying for control. There is no honor among thieves.

    I still expect that Mossad will play a role in de-Nazification of post-SMO Ukraine. Some Ukrainians will start to get it when this begins.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack, @A123

    Zelensky is blatantly a puppet created by non-Jewish masters.

    One might claim that his European owner operators, such as Merkel, are in turn beholden to outside groups. However, those more powerful groups are also Islamophile & anti-Semitic (including the WEF).

    There are few contradictions in Ukraine. Anti-Semite Zelensky intentionally stirring up Palestinian Jewish politicians is in perfect alignment with Ukraine’s outright support for pro-Nazi groups.

    Oligarchs are usually much more aligned to personal power than religious practice. They often make public gifts that do not match their private lives.

    Cheap solar electricity (photovoltaic) and revived nuclear power will improve the water desalination cost situation in many places.

    Thorium cycle nuclear SMR’s are long over due. But they will likely to be limited to countries running development programs for several decades.

    Incremental developments towards wide angle, organic solar cells routinely appear in research papers. However, this is also decades away from a wide adoption breakthrough.

    There really needs to be planning for the Muslim colony in Gaza that does not rely on speculative technologies. The ones you listed have an exceedingly low chance of availability in the relevant time frame.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️

  803. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    He [Arestovich] is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage
     
    Arestovich was also born n Georgia, not even in Ukraine.

    (((Zelensky)))
     
    Born in Ukraine, at least. And has a Ukrainian wife.

    Defence Minister Umerov
     
    Crimean Tatar. Crimea is officially Ukraine.

    Denys Shmyhal PM
     
    Jewish native of Lviv.

    Education – Lisoviy
     
    Ethnic Ukrainian from Kiev. His father was a Ukrainian nationalist anti-Soviet dissident.

    Education Minister& Vice PM…Fedorov
     
    He is the Deputy Prime Minister for Innovation, Education, Science and Technology/Minister for Digital Transformation. His surname is Russian, but he is from a small mostly ethnic Ukrainian town in Zaporizhia oblast.

    Most important diplomatic position for this fake country ruled from outside………Makarova
     
    Oksana Markarova (Ukraine's ambassador to the USA) is of mixed Ukrainian and Armenian descent, from Rivne in western Ukraine. Her given name is a very typical Ukrainian one.

    Ukraine's foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba is an ethnic Ukrainian from Sumy.

    Most notorious scumbag politician in 404 since the coup and longest-serving MIA……..Avakov
     
    Avakov, an ethnic Armenian, is no longer interior minister.

    The current one, Ihor Klymenko, is an ethnic Ukrainian from Kiev.

    Ministry of Infrastructure – Kubrakov
     
    Russian surname, from a city Dnipropetrovsk oblast.

    Zelenskys Chief embezzler (sorry of Staff)…..(((Yermak)))&Russian
     
    Ethnic Russian mother, Jewish father, born and lived in Kiev.

    Budanov
     
    Russian surname, born in Kiev.

    SBU , as is of course totally normal….his “comedy” friend, Bakanov
     
    Bakanov was replaced by Vasyl Malyuk, ethnic Ukrainian from Zhytomir

    Minister of Health – that true Ukrainian patriotic name…..Maxim Stepanov
     
    Stepanov left office in 2021. It's now Victor Liashko, ethnic Ukrainian from Rivne in western Ukraine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Liashko

    You forgot the Minister of Agriculture - Mykola Solskyi, ethnic Ukrainian from Lviv

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Your trick is to magnify percentage of the foreigners by including former officials who were not Ukrainians, rather than current ones who are Ukrainian. Anyways, the presence of some Russians among high Ukrainian government contradicts the fairy tale that the government is "genocidal" towards ethnic Russians. And one would expect some ethnic Russians among them, ethnic Russians were about 17% of the population before 2014. And Jews are talented wherever they are. Russia has had a couple Jewish PMs.

    It is shockingly amusing just how non-khokhol, khokholstan is
     
    Russians are traditionally ruled by foreigners, they are natural at it. Be it Germans like Catherine, or that Georgian whom they love despite his killing millions of them. An unfortunate aspect of Russian cultural influence upon Ukraine is that central and eastern Ukrainians have fallen into the same tendency (though unlike Russians, they at least do not love their Georgian killer). For example in the last presidential election, the Galicians voted for the ethnic Ukrainian Poroshenko (remember when you admitted that you are a gullible fool and kept repeating fairytales that he was Jewish?) but everyone else voted for Zelensky. Well, at least Zelensky was born and raised in the middle of the country and has a Ukrainian wife.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Well, at least Zelensky was born and raised in the middle of the country and has a Ukrainian wife.

    Riiiight, you are really scraping the ethnic-purity bottom: “but Herr Obersturmanfurher, I am a mishling, get it? I had a Bavarian mistress once, I think, and look I have lived in Rammstein…so I am ok, am I?

    Your casual racism on top of your ‘merican‘ moron education is quite amusing. But do you know who has ruled England for hundreds of years? And what were the Habsburgs really “ethnically”? They were heavily inbred, but initially it was quite a melange…then the donkey chin appeared and they were never able to breed it out.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    But do you know who has ruled England for hundreds of years?
     
    If you knew Russian history better you would know that not only the royal family but even much of the aristocracy were foreign - Baltic Germans, people from Tatar descent, Lithuanians, Rurikids, etc.

    The Soviets Revolution swept away the older foreigners who ruled Russians and brought rule by Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians over Russians.

    But you don't know much about history.

    And what were the Habsburgs really “ethnically”? They were heavily inbred
     
    You don't even know the history of the family who ruled over you.

    The house of Habsburg-Lorraine that ruled Austria and Austria-Hungary after 1736 were not inbred. Inbreeding had been a problem primarily with the earlier ones (especially the Spanish ones).

    Thanks for demonstrating the inferiority of Slovak education.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

  804. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Do you understand the meaning of "many strings"? Some are cut and some are added - but a puppet stays a puppet...

    And what is it with the sweat-shirts and Ukies? Like village parvenus they put on the most ridiculous outfits...they have no style.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Ukrainian American superstar actor John Hodiak and his beautiful actress wife Ann Baxter. Real Hollywood royalty, no sweatshirts needed:

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    He died in 1955! Did they have sweat-shirts at that time?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    , @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Hack, stop being a cretin. There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be "Ukrainian".

    Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.

    To have thought of self as "Ukrainian - American" he would have to be a proud Stalinist near the end of his life, because Stalin is the only thing that connects the land he was born in to any "Ukraine" LOL!!!

    That strange, sick-looking ukronazi bitch in the film "The Departed" with Jack Nicholson.... does look very similar around the eyes to that golodomor-fake statue of the fake-starving girl built in 404.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  805. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Ukrainian American superstar actor John Hodiak and his beautiful actress wife Ann Baxter. Real Hollywood royalty, no sweatshirts needed:

    https://tessa2.lapl.org/digital/api/singleitem/image/photos/34543/default.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    He died in 1955! Did they have sweat-shirts at that time?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    There was no such thing as a superstar before Willie Mays 1962 or so. His wife was 10X the star he was. He must have had a huge penis.

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I'm not sure? But here's another photo of two successful contemporary Ukrainians. Some might call them "Banderites" or even "Nazis". I would call them what most Ukrainians represent, both are patriotic Ukrainians (no sweatshirts needed):

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/28/98/6528986b642a9934c3f731ef89c0edb1.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

  806. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    He died in 1955! Did they have sweat-shirts at that time?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    There was no such thing as a superstar before Willie Mays 1962 or so. His wife was 10X the star he was. He must have had a huge penis.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
  807. @AP
    @Mikel


    Mosques broadcast messages telling Gaza Strip residents to stay put on Friday

    Oh, I see. Hamas militants instruct Mosque imams to persuade their own wives and children to stay in their houses
     

    Was Reuters lying when they stated that this happened?

    Have you seen the Palestinian videos extolling the virtues of martyrdom?


    and they meekly comply, knowing that the Israelis are going to massacre them with missiles but obeying those orders anyway

     

    They fear disobeying the militants and they fear getting killed as they flee.

    Israel claims they Hamas has been actively preventing people from fleeing. I would take that with a grain of salt. However, we do know:

    1. Israel told people to leave and gave them time to do so.

    2. Hamas ordered them to stay.

    3. Many stayed and were killed by Israel as it bombed Hamas which was integrated in civilian areas. (and I’m sure the Israelis were not nearly as careful as they should or could have been)


    The closest you’ve ever been to combat is some Hollywood movie
     
    Neither of us has been in urban warfare remotely comparable to Gaza. I’ve, at least, had patients who were combat veterans from Iraq.

    Have you been in an actual war zone, with missiles, artillery, etc?

    Have you dealt with Muslim militants?

    I don’t think your experience is any or at least much closer than my second-hand experience.


    In the real world it takes a lot of effort to convince whole families to stay where they know they are going to be killed
     
    Hamas has a well earned reputation for brutality and for killing those who disobey them. Including killing uncooperative Palestinians. Do you disagree?

    If that was the reason why so many thousands of civilians are dying, there would be tons of testimonies, images and footage of Hamas operatives forcing civilians to stay where they don’t want to
     
    Combination of fear of consequences for crossing Hamas by some, and fanatic acceptance of martyrdom by others, could explain it.

    Do you have another explanation for what I had posted?

    1. Israel told people to leave and gave them time to do so.

    2. Hamas ordered them to stay.

    3. Many stayed and were killed by Israel as it bombed Hamas which was integrated in civilian areas. (and I’m sure the Israelis were not nearly as careful as they should or could have been)


    You wouldn’t like to hear that the reason why Russia has been killing Ukrainian civilians is because the Kiev government forces them to stay where they know they’ll be bombed, would you

     

    Ukraine has been documented as evacuating people from war zones near the front and encouraging them to leave. Such as when they had evacuated Kupyansk awhile ago. Hamas has been documented as telling people to stay.

    Moreover the context is completely different. Russia didn’t invade Ukraine in response to Ukraine invading Belgorod or Bryansk and torturing, murdering, and raping a bunch of Russian civilians.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Deafness is the second most common disease in Palestine after thalassemia, as usually is in areas where cousin marriage is rampant (~50% for Palestine), so maybe many of Gazans simply did not hear Israeli communications… As for other dangers of cousin marriage, the news of today is so incredible that it borders on black humour, but apparently one Israeli missile/bomb took lives of 76 members of one family …. This is to what the cousin marriage custom forces people – if you do not have money to constantly travel from a cousin to a cousin, to secure necessary closeness, you end on living in a heap . One heap, exactly.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/23/israeli-strike-kills-76-members-of-one-gaza-family-rescue-officials-say-as-combat-expands-in-south-00133158

    Which leads to another interesting question: were first cities built by people practicing cousin marriage, in order to ensure such a mating form too? Well, as we know, inbreeding was never really popular among nomads…

    As for Gaza war, it seems that neither Israel nor Hamas are substantially interested in limiting casualties…
    Some other perspective:
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article220078.html

  808. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    He died in 1955! Did they have sweat-shirts at that time?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    I’m not sure? But here’s another photo of two successful contemporary Ukrainians. Some might call them “Banderites” or even “Nazis”. I would call them what most Ukrainians represent, both are patriotic Ukrainians (no sweatshirts needed):

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Two healthy looking guys in the right age group...what front are they fighting on? Or could they possibly have the "VIP" exception?

    Come to think of it, Zelko is the right age male as far as we know - he could flip once in exile but for now he identifies as a man... but Zelko, Porky (not in office now), Yatsenyuk, and all of their male kids and relatives are not dying on the front for the "right of Kiev to be in Nato"...They are telling others to go.

    Why is that? Is it not important to them? That tells us all we need to know...

    Replies: @AP

    , @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I have always thought that having the world heavyweight champ as mayor of Kiev said something about the level of organized crime in the city. Something bad.

    I had never heard of these impressive boxers until many years ago one's pretty starlet American girl girlfriend/wife became famous for having a misspelled tattoo.

    , @Wokechoke
    @Mr. Hack

    Jews

  809. @Beckow
    @QCIC


    Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don’t think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) ‘bona fides‘.
     
    Zelko is a puppet with so many strings that even he doesn't now know why he is there. He was asked to play a role and as an actor he embraced it but took it too far. The BoJo thing in April 2022 was pure idiocy...like when a Shakespearian drama needs a push toward more tragedy.

    But nobody told him the ending. Now he is like the fish out of the water: scared, frantic, twisting and paralyzed at the same time - like a Christmas carp as the water drains. A short loser in the Che outfit, unshaven, threatening and scared. This is good stuff...

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    This is good stuff…

    What’s really good stuff is not that Zelensky forgot to shave recently, but that Ukrainians were able to knock out three SU-34’s just a couple of days ago in the Kherson region near Krienke. These are the very best and most expensive jets that Russia has. If you think about it, this is really huge news on a par with knocking out a large Russian warship on the Black Sea. If I were you, I’d tell your boys to get their act together, so that you can continue to make your glib predictions about an impending Russian victory in Ukraine, otherwise. 🙂

    But wait the news gets even better! Russians down their own SU-25 recently too! The Russian fly-boys must be hitting the Christmas vodka a little bit early this year:

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    "Kiev says..."

    They say a lot of stuff, some possibly true, other lies or exaggerations. Kiev admits it lost 69 planes so far in the war, but Moscow says that Ukraine has lost almost all its planes.

    Who knows, didn't we agree that in a war none of the claims can be verified and since propaganda is key, why should we believe either side?

    What difference does it make? Are you saying that Kiev is winning now? Then why are they literally begging through intermediaries for a ceasefire and negotiations? Don't you know how to read the media tea leaves? Do you think when they say vaguely that "Kremlin is willing to negotiate a compromise" it is about Kremlin? Use those brain cells god gave you...that's what they are for, not for staring at pictures.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    , @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Russia has previously lost a number of Su-34 aircraft in the SMO. For the most part this looked like the pilots were flying many high risk missions, just like the Su-25 and Ka-52 losses.

    The Su-34 has been around since 2004 but is a late 1980's design. It is apparently a good plane and is the replacement for the Su-24 which was effectively a Soviet equivalent of the F-111.

    , @Derer
    @Mr. Hack

    You are a lying arse...have you ever reported anything Ukrainian destroyed. They must be at the Moscow gates by now, be happy.

  810. Nothing new: rats always try to leave a sinking ship. Still curious.

    Vehemently anti-Russian Ukie propagandist Alexey Pechiy ran away from Ukraine to Europe. On Ukie TV he used to run “Tele-marathon” and daily summarized the “news” on the “24th channel”.

    A few tidbits to give you an idea what he is. At the beginning of SMO he stated that Russian defense minister Shoygu is arrested, this summer he said that Ukies are entering Crimea, that people are running from Russian-controlled left bank of Dnieper to Okie-controlled right bank, that Putin is losing control of Russia, and that Israel is giving Merkava tanks to Ukraine. Being a typical Ukie propagandist, he never acknowledged that what he said were lies.

    Ukraine prohibits men from 18 to 60 years old to leave the country. He left Ukraine using special permission, as he was sent as a journalist to the EU summit on the 14-15 December. Now he announced that he won’t return. Maybe that’s the first time in his life when he told the truth.

  811. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I'm not sure? But here's another photo of two successful contemporary Ukrainians. Some might call them "Banderites" or even "Nazis". I would call them what most Ukrainians represent, both are patriotic Ukrainians (no sweatshirts needed):

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/28/98/6528986b642a9934c3f731ef89c0edb1.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

    Two healthy looking guys in the right age group…what front are they fighting on? Or could they possibly have the “VIP” exception?

    Come to think of it, Zelko is the right age male as far as we know – he could flip once in exile but for now he identifies as a man… but Zelko, Porky (not in office now), Yatsenyuk, and all of their male kids and relatives are not dying on the front for the “right of Kiev to be in Nato“…They are telling others to go.

    Why is that? Is it not important to them? That tells us all we need to know…

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    Come to think of it, Zelko is the right age male as far as we know – he could flip once in exile but for now he identifies as a man… but Zelko, Porky (not in office now), Yatsenyuk, and all of their male kids and relatives are not dying on the front
     
    A leader of a pro-Russian party (before the war) is in uniform, fighting against Russians though.

    It's Kharkiv mayor Dobkin, from the hilarious video from many years ago.

    https://censor.net/en/photo_news/3372029/markovich_on_a_tank_former_head_of_kharkiv_regional_state_administration_dobkin_was_spotted_in_afu_uniform

    The video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltEvbum6LlE

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

  812. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    This is good stuff…
     
    What's really good stuff is not that Zelensky forgot to shave recently, but that Ukrainians were able to knock out three SU-34's just a couple of days ago in the Kherson region near Krienke. These are the very best and most expensive jets that Russia has. If you think about it, this is really huge news on a par with knocking out a large Russian warship on the Black Sea. If I were you, I'd tell your boys to get their act together, so that you can continue to make your glib predictions about an impending Russian victory in Ukraine, otherwise. :-)

    https://youtu.be/CTECy76mOo8

    But wait the news gets even better! Russians down their own SU-25 recently too! The Russian fly-boys must be hitting the Christmas vodka a little bit early this year:

    https://youtu.be/gtOD6cVZwhw

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Derer

    Kiev says…

    They say a lot of stuff, some possibly true, other lies or exaggerations. Kiev admits it lost 69 planes so far in the war, but Moscow says that Ukraine has lost almost all its planes.

    Who knows, didn’t we agree that in a war none of the claims can be verified and since propaganda is key, why should we believe either side?

    What difference does it make? Are you saying that Kiev is winning now? Then why are they literally begging through intermediaries for a ceasefire and negotiations? Don’t you know how to read the media tea leaves? Do you think when they say vaguely that “Kremlin is willing to negotiate a compromise” it is about Kremlin? Use those brain cells god gave you…that’s what they are for, not for staring at pictures.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Larry Johnson makes some story about the Washington Post removing the Ukraine War from it's header bar. This is like detecting the hierarchy in the Kremlin by looking at who is sitting around the party secretary watching the May Day Parade.

    https://sonar21.com/ukraine-turn-out-the-lights-the-party-is-over/

    Replies: @Beckow

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    What difference does it make?
     
    It really doesn't, nothing will change in Russia until Putler's demise...another 25 years of Putler anybody?

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2023/11/16/de7121d7e122c71726ce53da911dac00.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

    Replies: @Beckow

  813. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    "Kiev says..."

    They say a lot of stuff, some possibly true, other lies or exaggerations. Kiev admits it lost 69 planes so far in the war, but Moscow says that Ukraine has lost almost all its planes.

    Who knows, didn't we agree that in a war none of the claims can be verified and since propaganda is key, why should we believe either side?

    What difference does it make? Are you saying that Kiev is winning now? Then why are they literally begging through intermediaries for a ceasefire and negotiations? Don't you know how to read the media tea leaves? Do you think when they say vaguely that "Kremlin is willing to negotiate a compromise" it is about Kremlin? Use those brain cells god gave you...that's what they are for, not for staring at pictures.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    Larry Johnson makes some story about the Washington Post removing the Ukraine War from it’s header bar. This is like detecting the hierarchy in the Kremlin by looking at who is sitting around the party secretary watching the May Day Parade.

    https://sonar21.com/ukraine-turn-out-the-lights-the-party-is-over/

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Yeah, they are shutting it down, the show is over. This was always a war of choice for Nato - all they had to do at any point is to simply state that Nato will not move to Ukraine and all other issues would be gradually resolved.

    But there was an obsession not to do it, possibly caused by their pathological hatred of Russia, or maybe career considerations - what will Nuland and that Norwegian Nazi-offspring dude do now?

    What about the Ukies? They were taken for a bloody ride and even they are starting to realize it. This is painful for them and they will grasp for straws.

  814. This hapa woman is quite pretty but still seems to feel like she doesn’t belong anywhere.

  815. @Gerard1234
    @LatW

    Tell your boyfriend, that prick Sudden Death , that when we are finished denazifying and demilitarising 404....I believe the reunification of the ancient Russian lands of Lithuania will be our next campaign.
    Lithuania isn't their name anyway - the new name or returned name of the state after we liberate will be Chyornarus, Black Russia.

    It's our land. Russian property. Belarus was always Belarus, Chyornarus was always Chyornarus. I will lobby the government to ensure Chyornarus does become what it says.............every Afghan,Somali, Eritrean, "persecuted" Chechen homo, OJ Simpson, Congan , Malawan, can come and seek refuge there, so that it does become a literal Black Russia.

    Replies: @LatW, @LatW, @sudden death

    Even in the earliest mentions, around 1450, Rossia Negra and Lituana were geographically entirely separate territorial entities:

    Anyway, while you have typical wet sovok dreams about negrifying foreign white lands wherever imaginable, never dissapointing IslamoPutin is already letting in and starting naturalizing muslim Gazan hordes in RF, lol

    MAKHACHKALA, December 23 – RIA Novosti. The first group of evacuated Palestinian residents who arrived in Dagestan received passports of Russian citizens on Saturday; the documents were handed to 45 refugees, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports.
    According to a representative of the Migration Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for Dagestan, among those who received a passport there were 26 men and 19 women. Among them are seven minors, the youngest is 14 years old.

    “Obtaining passports gives you the opportunity to realize yourself in various fields of activity, you receive rights and benefits that are provided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation. You will have the opportunity to receive medical care, education, and realize yourself in your profession,” said Deputy Chairman of the Government of Dagestan Abdurakhman Makhmudov.
    Since November 25, several groups of evacuees from the Gaza Strip arrived in Dagestan – more than 150 people in total, including over 70 children. They live at one of the recreation centers, where a temporary accommodation center has been set up.

    https://ria.ru/20231223/palestina-1917671253.html

  816. Never been to the Deep South, but I suspect that, if Jamaica were a US state, it would have the blacks with the most African autosomal DNA.

  817. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    "Kiev says..."

    They say a lot of stuff, some possibly true, other lies or exaggerations. Kiev admits it lost 69 planes so far in the war, but Moscow says that Ukraine has lost almost all its planes.

    Who knows, didn't we agree that in a war none of the claims can be verified and since propaganda is key, why should we believe either side?

    What difference does it make? Are you saying that Kiev is winning now? Then why are they literally begging through intermediaries for a ceasefire and negotiations? Don't you know how to read the media tea leaves? Do you think when they say vaguely that "Kremlin is willing to negotiate a compromise" it is about Kremlin? Use those brain cells god gave you...that's what they are for, not for staring at pictures.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Mr. Hack

    What difference does it make?

    It really doesn’t, nothing will change in Russia until Putler’s demise…another 25 years of Putler anybody?

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    He has been around a lot shorter than Biden has been floating around Washington. My guess is that if Putin leaves the next guy will be a lot harsher - less cautious, more angry. It is probably better for Putin to keep a lid on it. That's what he does.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  818. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    This is good stuff…
     
    What's really good stuff is not that Zelensky forgot to shave recently, but that Ukrainians were able to knock out three SU-34's just a couple of days ago in the Kherson region near Krienke. These are the very best and most expensive jets that Russia has. If you think about it, this is really huge news on a par with knocking out a large Russian warship on the Black Sea. If I were you, I'd tell your boys to get their act together, so that you can continue to make your glib predictions about an impending Russian victory in Ukraine, otherwise. :-)

    https://youtu.be/CTECy76mOo8

    But wait the news gets even better! Russians down their own SU-25 recently too! The Russian fly-boys must be hitting the Christmas vodka a little bit early this year:

    https://youtu.be/gtOD6cVZwhw

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Derer

    Russia has previously lost a number of Su-34 aircraft in the SMO. For the most part this looked like the pilots were flying many high risk missions, just like the Su-25 and Ka-52 losses.

    The Su-34 has been around since 2004 but is a late 1980’s design. It is apparently a good plane and is the replacement for the Su-24 which was effectively a Soviet equivalent of the F-111.

  819. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I'm not sure? But here's another photo of two successful contemporary Ukrainians. Some might call them "Banderites" or even "Nazis". I would call them what most Ukrainians represent, both are patriotic Ukrainians (no sweatshirts needed):

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/28/98/6528986b642a9934c3f731ef89c0edb1.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

    I have always thought that having the world heavyweight champ as mayor of Kiev said something about the level of organized crime in the city. Something bad.

    I had never heard of these impressive boxers until many years ago one’s pretty starlet American girl girlfriend/wife became famous for having a misspelled tattoo.

  820. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Beckow

    Larry Johnson makes some story about the Washington Post removing the Ukraine War from it's header bar. This is like detecting the hierarchy in the Kremlin by looking at who is sitting around the party secretary watching the May Day Parade.

    https://sonar21.com/ukraine-turn-out-the-lights-the-party-is-over/

    Replies: @Beckow

    Yeah, they are shutting it down, the show is over. This was always a war of choice for Nato – all they had to do at any point is to simply state that Nato will not move to Ukraine and all other issues would be gradually resolved.

    But there was an obsession not to do it, possibly caused by their pathological hatred of Russia, or maybe career considerations – what will Nuland and that Norwegian Nazi-offspring dude do now?

    What about the Ukies? They were taken for a bloody ride and even they are starting to realize it. This is painful for them and they will grasp for straws.

  821. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    What difference does it make?
     
    It really doesn't, nothing will change in Russia until Putler's demise...another 25 years of Putler anybody?

    https://static.kyivpost.com/storage/2023/11/16/de7121d7e122c71726ce53da911dac00.jpg?w=1280&q=90&f=webp

    Replies: @Beckow

    He has been around a lot shorter than Biden has been floating around Washington. My guess is that if Putin leaves the next guy will be a lot harsher – less cautious, more angry. It is probably better for Putin to keep a lid on it. That’s what he does.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Biden was around and a part of the "swamp" that Trump thought that he would drain (and it never happened). Putler actually had a meteoric rise and has been able to cement his authoritarian reign for what, 25 years now, always at the very top. This pattern is very unlikely to repeat itself again. The next leader of Russia, I think, will be a much more cautious and limited man than Putler and will not wield the kind of power that he now does. The oligarchs will be eager to share more power than serve the man at the top of the Russian mafia pyramid scheme like they do now. Biden will be gone soon either voted out of power or succumb to the vagaries of old age. Putler isn't getting any younger either, and has undoubtedly accumulated a lot of enemies within Russia too. .

  822. Breh.. Jatt run Iran.

  823. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    I'm not sure? But here's another photo of two successful contemporary Ukrainians. Some might call them "Banderites" or even "Nazis". I would call them what most Ukrainians represent, both are patriotic Ukrainians (no sweatshirts needed):

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/28/98/6528986b642a9934c3f731ef89c0edb1.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Wokechoke

    Jews

    • Troll: Mr. Hack
  824. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.
     
    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks. The leaders will change and many anti-Russians will leave out of frustration and fear. There will be recriminations against the people who led Ukraine to the disaster - Maidan and the war will not be celebrated but seen as unnecessary carnage and a fool's errand on behalf of Nato.

    Central Ukraine doesn't have to be occupied - that would be self-defeating. But your blind belief that there wouldn't be enough Ukies willing to accommodate Russia and benefit is naive and ahistorical - there always are many people who live in the present. It first helped the Maidanistas and after a defeat it will be the reverse.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow, happy the war is over, saying things like "we never agreed to the radical nationalist closing of the Russian schools or with Bandera marches" and "we never cared for Nato" or "Nato betrayed us"...the focus will be on the horrific costs to Ukraine, destroyed infrastructure, lost lands, thousands of dead, millions who left permanently.

    There are always die-hards and their adventures would be covered in the West to cover up the loss. But with time the population would mostly turn on them due to the mayhem they are causing. People want normalcy more than anything else, the passionate damn-the-consequences fights last a few years and then fizzle out.


    Arestovich is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts
     
    Zelko is also a non-ethnic Ukie, and so are the prime ministers, etc...you have to dig deep and hard to find "pure Ukrainians". But whatever, if that is your thing.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly. These are signals from people who are looking for the way out - offering the de facto restoration of the Yanuk's status quo ante of a multi-cultural and neutral Ukraine would work. Of course sans Crimea, Donbas...Or at least it may appeal to Russia enough to buy time. But Arestovich is not bullsh.ing or settling personal scores - he is too smart and well connected for that.

    It is an opening gambit - offers to negotiate. There is a chance that Russia will bite and agree to a restored Yanuk-like Ukraine with new leaders and this time better guarantees. And we will get some peace. We would very much welcome it, the stupidity and lost business are not fun.

    Having Russia as our neighbor on the Carpathians benefits nobody, not us, nor Russia or EU. It is almost as bad as the raving Banderites marches there. No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying - we did a Sabine-women raid without having to move a finger, how great is that? They also make fantastic macchiatos...

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AP

    They’ll kill half a dozen of the Zelenskyyites now. Can’t let these Jewish shits and their enablers get away with it.

  825. Would like to see Simon Whistler and a few others banished from YouTube, just to improve the quality.

  826. @sudden death
    @Sean


    Industrial scale production of arms including some pretty useful ones such as the FAB bombs and drones enable them to advance inexorably. All indications are that Russia is not quitting whatever the West does.
     
    FAB's are being released from fighter/bomber planes though, so here should come Western supplied aviation on the scene next year to counter some of it - not an aviation expert myself at all, but perhaps it might help more to hunt RF planes with air to air rockets or to blow up FAB's itself when they're still gliding in the air?

    Replies: @QCIC, @Sean, @sudden death

    Ukraine will very likely receive the first batch of F-16s before the end of 2023. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte confirmed on December 22 during a phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that the Dutch government will prepare an initial 18 F-16 fighter jets for delivery to Ukraine.[6] While Rutte did not confirm the timeline for F-16 delivery, a recent Estonian Ministry of Defense strategy document stated that the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, and Belgium have already committed to donating F-16s to Ukraine “before the end of the year [2023].”[7]

    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-22-2023

    • Replies: @sudden death
    @sudden death

    To think of it further, if the UA reports about three downed RF jets in a day will be confirmed, this might indicate that Western supplied planes are already operating in the skies of UA and the hunt has been succesful?

    Anyway, reality will break through anyway sooner or later and we will see more clear potential indications such as lowered intensity of air frontbombing by RF in the coming months if those F-16's will be truly effective.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  827. @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    Israel is superior to its neighbours.
     
    It depends if we use Western post-Enlightenment concepts or the "Eastern" or pre-Enlightenment concepts?

    In view of many people in the Arab or Muslim world, Israel is "weaker than a spiders' web". Since probably with the withdrawing from Sinai in 1982 and later Oslo 1993, Israel is viewed by the Arab street as a weak country which loses every war since 1967, doesn't have willpower, always folds to international pressure, cannot have security for its civilians, regularly loses honor and is scared of children with stones. While many of the Arab street believe they have stronger willpower, commitment and solidarity, Israel is viewed as decadent,* not able to sacrifice for its strategic objectives, releases thousands of terrorists for some hostage or dead bodies, can be defeated in the international propaganda by tricks.

    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.

    But from the Western view? If you use the Western measurements, Israel is more developed than most of Europe in areas like economic complexity, scientific knowledge and probably some legal areas like property rights.

    If they solve the security problem, the economic level would probably bypass every European country except places like Switzerland, Norway or Luxembourg. Even although Israel is a security disaster country, which is viewed as weaker than a spiders' web by the Arab world, from the Western measurements it seems to be progressing, while the neighbors don't change.

    In the Western indicators like GDP per capita they are going to bypass Sweden this year. While their neighbors almost don't change for decades.

    https://i.imgur.com/qn0NPAR.jpg

    It's one of few areas in the world with border between the first and third world. If you think about few examples there are in the world, of the countries with border between the first world and third world. USA-Mexico border, intra-Korean border, and there was the Singapore-Malaysia border (today Malaysia is a middle income country).

    Israel has borders with third world Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Gaza and West Bank. Israel has at least numerically more borders between the first world and third world, than in all the rest of the world.

    So, it's geographically unexpected extension of the developed world to Western Asia.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But we are talking about perceptions of the 1950s/1960s. Israel was like a refugee camp and military camp of the 1950s. You can see in the buildings of the cities today which are still like a refugee camp.

    There are a lot of cities in Israel where the buildings look worse than Gaza. It's a trace of how cheap and rapid the situation was there in the 1950s. Although paradoxically they managed the security better in those years and they had a lot more deterrence in relation to the Arab world, compared to the situation now when Israel is viewed as weak in the Muslim world.

    In the Eastern view, the 1950s/1960s of Israel was very successful and the Arabs was scared about it.

    But in the Western view, the 1950s/1960s Israel was probably not somewhere you want to live. Every night trying to sleep there without airconditioning is an anti-luxury.


    So I think it is fair for Arendt, speaking as a Western Jew, to feel disappointment.

     

    But the disappoint which would could be seen in an objective way is the failure of their security system. The idea the problem is Arendt's view of the culture, conformism or "half-Asiatic", is a very subjective and probably depends on political views which are almost like a religion.

    -

    *There are probably more progressed indications of this in Western European countries from the Eastern view.

    Replies: @A123, @AP, @Hyperborean

    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.

    What are you talking about? Even a devastating failure like 7th October was in the end, even if psychologically scarring, unable to seriously threaten the Israeli state.

    Half a century ago Israel faced a full-scale invasion, today even with the massive bombing campaign upsetting the muslims the only ones actively attacking are the Houthis (with the Iranians using them as proxies). Egypt and Jordan are standing by. Erdogan is just blowing hit air and using the war as an opportunity to bomb Kurdish villages. Syria is occupied by internal problems and Israel bombs targets in Damascus at will, openly travelling over Lebanese airspace. Hezbollah is pursuing a bit of shelling, but despite their immense bravado is only tying down Israeli troops with shelling and the threat of intervening (but not actually doing it). The UAE, KSA and Bahrain are even helping Israel try and circumvent the Houthis’ naval campaign.

    Israel isn’t facing any sanctions like South Africa or domestic lack of legitimacy like South Vietnam. Despite how it may seem short-term, from a historical context present-day Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.

    I would also like to add that in addition to the military aid, the USA spent an equal amount of money to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    • Replies: @Hyperborean
    @Hyperborean

    (Sorry to double post, the editing time expired)

    I would also like to add that in addition to the military aid, the USA spent an equally important amount of money to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/04/us-israel-aid-military-funding-chart

    Israel has benefited a lot from its powerful diaspora.

    , @Dmitry
    @Hyperborean


    Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.
     
    I don't think so. The largest terrorist attacks in the history in the past 80 years of Israel killed around 30 people and maybe a couple of people kidnapped. On October 7th, the terrorist attacks kill over a thousand and hundreds of kidnapped.

    It's completely not like any events in Israel history and is collapse of their security model. Something has changed with Israel in terms of the lack of deterrence and security of the population. From the Arab or Iran's view, there seemed to be very little deterrence.

    By the way, already in 2021 there was some indication of this with the Arab riots all over Israel. For comparison, 2021 they have no fear to burn neighborhoods in Lod or Yafo. In the 1950s this would impossible to imagine and they were scared to contravene curfew.

    Israel is also culturally a different society than in the 1970s and has a high extent of liberalization since the 1990s, it's a more of divided and individualist country, prioritizes economics, possibly with political leaders who would not follow difficult military decisions as in the past. For example, the decision to begin the Six-Day war.

    to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/04/us-israel-aid-military-funding-chart

    Israel has benefited a lot from its powerful diaspora

     

    $33 billion of economic aid from the USA to Israel over 80 years seems relatively small relative to the project of building the country, $400 million per year. Although loan guarantees were probably important to stabalize the financial system during the crisis.
    ttps://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-u-s-foreign-aid-to-israel-1949-present In the same time period, Intel invested more in Israel.

    For comparison, Intel is now to invest $25 billion to build a single factory in Israel between 2024-2027. https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-build-25-bln-factory-largest-foreign-investment-israel-netanyahu-2023-06-18/

    It's the open trade relation which is important for Israel and the country's economy would be very vulnerable for sanctions. Israel's products are not fungible exports like Russia's oil which can be sold anonymously.

    seem short-term, from a historical context present-day Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.

     

    Yes, as I said from the Western view. GDP is climbing every year. All the indexes of development are improving.

    But from the Islamist view, they sense weakness from Israel and after October 7 we should probably re-evaluate their perspective.

    Their are two alternative points of view. Israel is looking strong from the World Bank data, but the more primitive shark mind can feel weakness from them.

    I know it sounds like the Bashibuzuk theory of Islamic conquering Europe by "falling upwards" and Islamic State's self-confidence of 2015 was also measuring delusion levels.
  828. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.
     
    What are you talking about? Even a devastating failure like 7th October was in the end, even if psychologically scarring, unable to seriously threaten the Israeli state.

    Half a century ago Israel faced a full-scale invasion, today even with the massive bombing campaign upsetting the muslims the only ones actively attacking are the Houthis (with the Iranians using them as proxies). Egypt and Jordan are standing by. Erdogan is just blowing hit air and using the war as an opportunity to bomb Kurdish villages. Syria is occupied by internal problems and Israel bombs targets in Damascus at will, openly travelling over Lebanese airspace. Hezbollah is pursuing a bit of shelling, but despite their immense bravado is only tying down Israeli troops with shelling and the threat of intervening (but not actually doing it). The UAE, KSA and Bahrain are even helping Israel try and circumvent the Houthis' naval campaign.

    Israel isn't facing any sanctions like South Africa or domestic lack of legitimacy like South Vietnam. Despite how it may seem short-term, from a historical context present-day Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.

    I would also like to add that in addition to the military aid, the USA spent an equal amount of money to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Dmitry

    (Sorry to double post, the editing time expired)

    I would also like to add that in addition to the military aid, the USA spent an equally important amount of money to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/04/us-israel-aid-military-funding-chart

    Israel has benefited a lot from its powerful diaspora.

  829. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    He has been around a lot shorter than Biden has been floating around Washington. My guess is that if Putin leaves the next guy will be a lot harsher - less cautious, more angry. It is probably better for Putin to keep a lid on it. That's what he does.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Biden was around and a part of the “swamp” that Trump thought that he would drain (and it never happened). Putler actually had a meteoric rise and has been able to cement his authoritarian reign for what, 25 years now, always at the very top. This pattern is very unlikely to repeat itself again. The next leader of Russia, I think, will be a much more cautious and limited man than Putler and will not wield the kind of power that he now does. The oligarchs will be eager to share more power than serve the man at the top of the Russian mafia pyramid scheme like they do now. Biden will be gone soon either voted out of power or succumb to the vagaries of old age. Putler isn’t getting any younger either, and has undoubtedly accumulated a lot of enemies within Russia too. .

  830. @Beckow
    @Mr. Hack

    Two healthy looking guys in the right age group...what front are they fighting on? Or could they possibly have the "VIP" exception?

    Come to think of it, Zelko is the right age male as far as we know - he could flip once in exile but for now he identifies as a man... but Zelko, Porky (not in office now), Yatsenyuk, and all of their male kids and relatives are not dying on the front for the "right of Kiev to be in Nato"...They are telling others to go.

    Why is that? Is it not important to them? That tells us all we need to know...

    Replies: @AP

    Come to think of it, Zelko is the right age male as far as we know – he could flip once in exile but for now he identifies as a man… but Zelko, Porky (not in office now), Yatsenyuk, and all of their male kids and relatives are not dying on the front

    A leader of a pro-Russian party (before the war) is in uniform, fighting against Russians though.

    It’s Kharkiv mayor Dobkin, from the hilarious video from many years ago.

    https://censor.net/en/photo_news/3372029/markovich_on_a_tank_former_head_of_kharkiv_regional_state_administration_dobkin_was_spotted_in_afu_uniform

    The video:

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    @AP

    Out of curiosity has Dobkin been seen in uniform since 2022?

    Or is it more like Milonov who joined the Donbass campaign to great fanfare, was photographed in fatigues, and then quietly went back to politicking?

    PS. I actually just Googled that myself. LOL. https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/12/16/7381062/ When are you going to admit this is a mutual charade?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  831. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...Well, at least Zelensky was born and raised in the middle of the country and has a Ukrainian wife.
     
    Riiiight, you are really scraping the ethnic-purity bottom: "but Herr Obersturmanfurher, I am a mishling, get it? I had a Bavarian mistress once, I think, and look I have lived in Rammstein...so I am ok, am I?"

    Your casual racism on top of your 'merican' moron education is quite amusing. But do you know who has ruled England for hundreds of years? And what were the Habsburgs really "ethnically"? They were heavily inbred, but initially it was quite a melange...then the donkey chin appeared and they were never able to breed it out.

    Replies: @AP

    But do you know who has ruled England for hundreds of years?

    If you knew Russian history better you would know that not only the royal family but even much of the aristocracy were foreign – Baltic Germans, people from Tatar descent, Lithuanians, Rurikids, etc.

    The Soviets Revolution swept away the older foreigners who ruled Russians and brought rule by Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians over Russians.

    But you don’t know much about history.

    And what were the Habsburgs really “ethnically”? They were heavily inbred

    You don’t even know the history of the family who ruled over you.

    The house of Habsburg-Lorraine that ruled Austria and Austria-Hungary after 1736 were not inbred. Inbreeding had been a problem primarily with the earlier ones (especially the Spanish ones).

    Thanks for demonstrating the inferiority of Slovak education.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP

    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don't understand what a nation means, who are the English, French, Russians, Poles, Magyars...how a "nation" is formed. And that it is much better that way.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others. Sarkozy was a Magyar gypsy with Thessalonike Jew, Holland's name speaks for itself, Macron is a total weirdo, I am not sure French would want to claim his blood.

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite, then a large group of Protestant Germans came in...then Jews, and now they are ruled by an Indian guy. Charles has almost no "English" blood and BoJo was a Turko-Danish-Celtic concoction with lots of added booze.You come across as a total moron blabbing half-digested idiocies. Your selective look at only the purity of "Russians" betrays your incurable hatred of them - all are pure in your world, but the damn Russians...riiight.

    You may need more than your anti-autism pills. But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs - pretty scary, but you will cherrypick again to medicate yourself, whatever...Merry Christmas...:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    If you knew Russian history better you would know that not only the royal family but even much of the aristocracy were foreign – Baltic Germans, people from Tatar descent, Lithuanians, Rurikids, etc.

    The Soviets Revolution swept away the older foreigners who ruled Russians and brought rule by Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians over Russians.

    But you don’t know much about history.
     
    From Lothrop Stoddard, in the 1920s:

    (This specific book of his is called Racial realities in Europe and is from 1924.)

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89013486980&seq=210&q1=western&start=2


    Suddenly, dramatically, the situation changed. Peter
    the Great became Czar and determined to “open a win-
    dow to the West ” and let in the light df civilization. Peter
    was a man of tremendous energy and iron will. He hated
    half-measures and insisted that he be instantly obeyed.
    Accordingly, he tried to jump several centuries and or-
    dered Russia to become westernized overnight. But his
    subjects l^ung back. Ignorant and fanatical, they clung
    doggedly to their old ways and refused to.embrace a civi-



    196 RACIAL REALITIES IN EUROPE

    lization wMcL they did not in the least comprehend.
    This resistance, however, merely infuriated Peter and
    hardened his resolution. As much a tyrant as any of his
    predecessors, opposition seemed to him criminal and in-
    tolerable. Accordingly, he not only opened a window but
    dragged Russia by the hair of the head clear out of its
    dark house into the Western sunshine, and since he could
    get little aid from his subjects he imported multitudes of
    Westerners to act as drill-masters and carry out his orders.

    This policy, begun by Peter and continued by his suc-
    cessors, westernized Russia— on the surface. Within a
    short time Russia looked pretty much like a Western na-
    tion. The newcomers from Western Europe (mostly Ger-
    mans and Scandinavians) together with many Russians
    converted to the government’s policy gave Russia a veneer
    of Western civilization and formed a ruhng class which
    was almost a caste apart. Beneath this veneer, however.
    Old Russia lived on, the bulk of the Russian people, espe-
    cially the peasants, remaining almost untouched by West-
    ern influences. Henceforth Russia became more than
    ever a land of strange contrasts and conflicting ideas,
    where new and old, east and west, Europe and Asia, jos-
    tled, fought, and illogically combined.

    These contrasts and conflicts were nowhere better re-
    vealed than in Russian political life. Despite its western-
    izing policy, the Russian Government remained at heart
    un-westerrdzed. Its spirit was still that of the Tartar
    jEQians, even though it wore European clothes and built
    railroads. The Russian Government, in fact, tried to
    borrow the material equipment of Western civilization and
    fit it to haJf-Oriental ideals. This experiment, however.



    THE ALPINE EAST


    197


    created difSculties which led ultimately to disaster.
    Though outwardly Eussia became a great World Power,
    inwardly she was tom by mental and spiritual conflicts
    which grew sharper as time went on. Imperial Eussia
    was thus a giant with feet of clay. Not only did the Eus-
    sian masses remain instinctively hostile to westerniza-
    tion, but the upper classes quarrelled among themselves.
    Those Eussians who became truly westernized in spirit
    began demanding that Eussia adopt the liberal ideals as
    well as the material improvements of Western civilization.
    This, however, the despotic government refused, and.
    the liberal protesters were sent to Siberia, That embit-
    tered the liberals and,made them revolutionists, while
    revolutionary agitation in turn further infuriated the
    government and increased its persecuting activity. More
    and more Eussia became a house divided against itself,
    and consequently broke down whenever faced by a real
    test. The preliminary break down took place imder the
    strain of the Eusso-Japanese War in 1904, when Eussia
    fell into revolutionary turmoil. The old regime just man-
    aged to save itself and restore order, but below the sur-
    face Eussia went on seething and the social foundations
    wore badly shaken. Then came the far heavier strain of
    the Great War— and Imperial Eussia collapsed. The old
    order being hopelessly shattered, the extreme revolu-
    tionary elements took advantage of the chaotic confusion,
    established their Bolshevist dictatorship, and plunged
    Eussia into a hell of class war, terrorism, poverty, cold,
    disease, and famine.

    Into the horrors and failures of Bolshevism I do not
    propose to enter. They are well known and need no de-



    198 RACIAL REALITIES IN EUROPE

    tailed discussion here. What is not so well known is the
    important fact that the present Bolshevik government,
    though differing widely in its economic aims, is in its
    spirit and political methods strikingly like the old im-
    perial govermnent which it replaced. The outstanding
    characteristics of the Bolshevik regime are violence and
    despotism. But those were precisely the outstanding
    characteristics of the old imperial regime. Russia has
    thus merely changed tyrants, one despotism having been
    followed by another. The main outcome of the revolu-
    tion has been a cracking of the Western veneer which had
    been imposed upon Russia by Peter the Great. Much of
    the material equipment borrowed by Russia from the
    West has been destroyed, while the former upper classes
    (largely of Western origin) have been killed or driven
    into exile. The real losers by the revolution are the truly
    westernized elements who had worked for a Russia wes-'
    ternized in spirit but who now see their illusions shat-
    tered. In fact, the revolution was largely a revolt against
    Westernism. In many ways Russia is to-day farther from
    Europe and nearer to Asia than she has been since Peter
    opened his “window to the West.”
     
    He then proceeded to discuss how Russia is more just "merely big" rather than great:

    What will emerge from the obscure and troubled transi-
    tion period through which Russia is passing' ho one can
    say. Yet one word of caution is distinctly needed. Many
    persons imagine that because Russia is. a land of huge
    size, vast natural resources, and immense population,
    something “great” and “constructive” must necessarily
    arise. Such persons are thinking in terms of quantity
    rather than quality. The more we look at Russia's past
    and Russia’s racial make-up, the more we are led to sus-
    pect that Russia may not be really great, but merely



    THE ALPINE EAST


    199


    big— which is something very different from true great-
    ness. To-day, as in former days, Russia appears as a
    complex, unstable mass of diverse bloods, tendencies, and
    ideas. This of course makes possible startling and in-
    teresting developments, but i|; also works against crear
    tive, constructive progress. Russia Has given birth to
    many brilliant individuals, but as a people, what has
    Russia done? This distinction should be clearly kept in
    mind. Because a stock produces talented writers and
    artists is no necessary proof that it possesses high polit-
    ical and social capacities. Russian history has been the
    story of mixed populations dominated by a succession of
    masterful ruling minorities mainly of foreign origin. , Now,
    no people of high political initiative and creative capacity
    would be likely to leave the direction of their political
    and economic life so continuously and so generally in
    the hands of foreign masters. It is therefore only fair to
    judge the Russians, not so much by what they have said
    as by what they , have done— or rdther, by what they
    have failed to do.

    Brilliancy of thought combined with failure in action
    is char^eristic of the Russians-as it is of many mixed
    stocks. ^Ins is instinctively recognized by Russians them-
    selves. /Russian novels are full of attractive young heroes
    full of ideas who start out to do great things but soon
    slack off and end in futile melancholy. Russian life seems
    to be typified in those stimulatiog yet inconclusive con-
    versations so beloved by Russians, which go on all night
    long over innumerable cigarettes and cups of tea, and
    which end at dawn with everybody tired, everything dis-
    cussed— and nothing settled !
     
  832. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...only possible if Kiev is conquered and ethnically cleansed. Which is extremely unlikely.
     
    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks. The leaders will change and many anti-Russians will leave out of frustration and fear. There will be recriminations against the people who led Ukraine to the disaster - Maidan and the war will not be celebrated but seen as unnecessary carnage and a fool's errand on behalf of Nato.

    Central Ukraine doesn't have to be occupied - that would be self-defeating. But your blind belief that there wouldn't be enough Ukies willing to accommodate Russia and benefit is naive and ahistorical - there always are many people who live in the present. It first helped the Maidanistas and after a defeat it will be the reverse.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow, happy the war is over, saying things like "we never agreed to the radical nationalist closing of the Russian schools or with Bandera marches" and "we never cared for Nato" or "Nato betrayed us"...the focus will be on the horrific costs to Ukraine, destroyed infrastructure, lost lands, thousands of dead, millions who left permanently.

    There are always die-hards and their adventures would be covered in the West to cover up the loss. But with time the population would mostly turn on them due to the mayhem they are causing. People want normalcy more than anything else, the passionate damn-the-consequences fights last a few years and then fizzle out.


    Arestovich is a non-ethnic Ukrainian who was part of Zelensky’s entourage, who was expelled from the inner circle due to some conflicts
     
    Zelko is also a non-ethnic Ukie, and so are the prime ministers, etc...you have to dig deep and hard to find "pure Ukrainians". But whatever, if that is your thing.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly. These are signals from people who are looking for the way out - offering the de facto restoration of the Yanuk's status quo ante of a multi-cultural and neutral Ukraine would work. Of course sans Crimea, Donbas...Or at least it may appeal to Russia enough to buy time. But Arestovich is not bullsh.ing or settling personal scores - he is too smart and well connected for that.

    It is an opening gambit - offers to negotiate. There is a chance that Russia will bite and agree to a restored Yanuk-like Ukraine with new leaders and this time better guarantees. And we will get some peace. We would very much welcome it, the stupidity and lost business are not fun.

    Having Russia as our neighbor on the Carpathians benefits nobody, not us, nor Russia or EU. It is almost as bad as the raving Banderites marches there. No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying - we did a Sabine-women raid without having to move a finger, how great is that? They also make fantastic macchiatos...

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @AP

    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks.

    The nature of such a loss would have to be the conquest of Kiev and central Ukraine. Because no government from this region would acquiesce to Putin’s demands of so-called demilitarization, so-called de-Nazification, etc.

    Central Ukraine doesn’t have to be occupied – that would be self-defeating.

    That would be the only way of having a non-hostile state there.

    Because a conquest of central Ukraine is extremely unlikely, there will be a state hostile to Russia there.

    And if a conquest were to occur, most of the population would simply leave and settle in other countries. This would contribute to those countries becoming more anti-Russian. Imagine a million fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainians living in your Slovakia. Fico would be in trouble.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow

    You are too dumb to realize that Ukrainians are not Slovaks. Neither are Balts, or Poles, or many other peoples. You go with the flow, we do not.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly.

    He was thrown out for saying silly things publicly.

    No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying

    The ones from the West and Center have largely returned. The Easterners not so much, it is dangerous in their lands. You might want to be careful with STDs from those Easterners, it’s the epicenter. Good luck.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...if a conquest were to occur, most of the population would simply leave and settle in other countries. This would contribute to those countries becoming more anti-Russian. Imagine a million fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainians living in your Slovakia.
     
    First, I disagree that a conquest followed by an occupation has to occur - you are overestimating Ukies desire to ruin their lives in order to "be in Nato". Like other normal people they will make the best out of it. Poles and Balts don't seem very normal, but even they were accommodating. Latvians formed the first Bolshie militia and then in WW2 two (!) volunteer SS divisions, then back to being content under the commies for 40 years. Poland had 3 million commies - 15% of adults.

    If Ukies leave to settle in EU they will have to follow the regular immigration process. Their current status is explicitly temporary and they have no long-term residence or citizenship rights. Your fantasy of "1 million Ukies" is bulls..t. The current Ukies we have are not at all political, definitely not anti-Russian (most speak Russian to each other), and rather visibly neutral towards the war. They are from all over, but the two main regions are Subcarpathia and Kiev. We get almost no Galicians.

    You shouldn't badmouth the honor of the Ukie girls, they are way better than you. They are actually normal, sane, and know the history of the region. You don't.

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    You are too dumb to realize that Ukrainians are not Slovaks. Neither are Balts, or Poles, or many other peoples. You go with the flow, we do not.

     

    Makes one wonder what exactly Poland would have done had the Anglo-French fought over Czechoslovakia back in 1938 and France got quickly defeated in 1939, similar to what happened in 1940 in real life. Would Poland in such a scenario have flipped from pro-Allied to pro-Axis, similar to 1940 Romania in real life, or would Poland have acted like post-1941 coup Yugoslavia and voluntarily thrown itself under the Nazi bus, rejecting any hint of accommodating the Nazis?
  833. @Hyperborean
    @Dmitry


    There is even a little true about the Eastern view and Israel will possibly fold to the international pressure in the next months without defeating Hamas, while the Islamic militants win every war strategically waiting for Israel to fold to pressure in the short term and possibly eventually go with their suitcase in the long term while the country falls like South Vietnam or South Africa.
     
    What are you talking about? Even a devastating failure like 7th October was in the end, even if psychologically scarring, unable to seriously threaten the Israeli state.

    Half a century ago Israel faced a full-scale invasion, today even with the massive bombing campaign upsetting the muslims the only ones actively attacking are the Houthis (with the Iranians using them as proxies). Egypt and Jordan are standing by. Erdogan is just blowing hit air and using the war as an opportunity to bomb Kurdish villages. Syria is occupied by internal problems and Israel bombs targets in Damascus at will, openly travelling over Lebanese airspace. Hezbollah is pursuing a bit of shelling, but despite their immense bravado is only tying down Israeli troops with shelling and the threat of intervening (but not actually doing it). The UAE, KSA and Bahrain are even helping Israel try and circumvent the Houthis' naval campaign.

    Israel isn't facing any sanctions like South Africa or domestic lack of legitimacy like South Vietnam. Despite how it may seem short-term, from a historical context present-day Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.

    I would also like to add that in addition to the military aid, the USA spent an equal amount of money to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    Replies: @Hyperborean, @Dmitry

    Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.

    I don’t think so. The largest terrorist attacks in the history in the past 80 years of Israel killed around 30 people and maybe a couple of people kidnapped. On October 7th, the terrorist attacks kill over a thousand and hundreds of kidnapped.

    It’s completely not like any events in Israel history and is collapse of their security model. Something has changed with Israel in terms of the lack of deterrence and security of the population. From the Arab or Iran’s view, there seemed to be very little deterrence.

    By the way, already in 2021 there was some indication of this with the Arab riots all over Israel. For comparison, 2021 they have no fear to burn neighborhoods in Lod or Yafo. In the 1950s this would impossible to imagine and they were scared to contravene curfew.

    Israel is also culturally a different society than in the 1970s and has a high extent of liberalization since the 1990s, it’s a more of divided and individualist country, prioritizes economics, possibly with political leaders who would not follow difficult military decisions as in the past. For example, the decision to begin the Six-Day war.

    to economically build up Israel 1975-2000.

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/04/us-israel-aid-military-funding-chart

    Israel has benefited a lot from its powerful diaspora

    $33 billion of economic aid from the USA to Israel over 80 years seems relatively small relative to the project of building the country, $400 million per year. Although loan guarantees were probably important to stabalize the financial system during the crisis.
    ttps://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-u-s-foreign-aid-to-israel-1949-present In the same time period, Intel invested more in Israel.

    For comparison, Intel is now to invest $25 billion to build a single factory in Israel between 2024-2027. https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-build-25-bln-factory-largest-foreign-investment-israel-netanyahu-2023-06-18/

    It’s the open trade relation which is important for Israel and the country’s economy would be very vulnerable for sanctions. Israel’s products are not fungible exports like Russia’s oil which can be sold anonymously.

    seem short-term, from a historical context present-day Israel is much more secure than the Israel of the past.

    Yes, as I said from the Western view. GDP is climbing every year. All the indexes of development are improving.

    But from the Islamist view, they sense weakness from Israel and after October 7 we should probably re-evaluate their perspective.

    Their are two alternative points of view. Israel is looking strong from the World Bank data, but the more primitive shark mind can feel weakness from them.

    I know it sounds like the Bashibuzuk theory of Islamic conquering Europe by “falling upwards” and Islamic State’s self-confidence of 2015 was also measuring delusion levels.

  834. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Some of the early CD players reportedly did not sound that great even though there was little added noise in the process (noise is not the only issue). This was blamed on perceptible limitations in the digital-to-analog reconstruction circuitry which were later addressed. The bigger problem which has already been mentioned is that many classic recordings were re-mixed for the CD product, supposedly to take advantage of the CD medium but more likely to indulge the people doing the mixing.

    Some claim that analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records and does not have any perceived artifacts from digitization and reconstruction. It seems to be making a tiny comeback for people who have both a lot of money and a lot of time.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    early CD players reportedly did not sound

    This is probably unfair although I think we can infer the explanations for why some people experienced “harsh” sound when CDs were introduced in the 1980s.

    A blogger even tested this buying of an 1986 Technics CD player. You can see in his results it added +0,6 db at 15 kHz, although only around +0,2 db at 10 kHz.

    Would this create negative effect you could hear? Compared to more recent CD players? No. You are not going to notice only +0,2 db at 10 kHz.

    So what are the explanations for the view of early CDs are harsh?

    In terms of the hardware explanation, I would guess it is because people were comparing to vinyl, when there was often roll off on the cartridges even earlier than 10 kHz. For example, frequency response of Shure cartridges of 1970s look like a downhill ski race. Also, if you don’t replace the cartridges they would develop roll off as they are aging.

    This theory would be some of the consumers of vinyl were habituated to roll-off. So, maybe the CD was viewed as harsh just because it didn’t have roll off.

    digital-to-analog reconstruction circuitry which were later addressed. The bigger problem which has already been mentioned is that many classic recordings were re-mixed for the CD product, supposedly to take advantage of the CD

    With early digital recordings, the engineers were newbies with using of the new equipment so the rate of mistakes could have been higher, understanding of the best practices could have been lower.

    There are also often problems when the analogue recordings are digitally remastered. So, Deutsche Grammophon and EMI of 1990s have made really strange digital remastering of the analogues recordings for their CD releasing of analogue recordings.

    Also some of the 1980s Deutsch Grammophon digital recordings which sound strange even for my amateur hearing.

    analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records

    Lol those are the most wealthy and serious music fans with the 15 IPS reel-to-reel

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records

    Lol those are the most wealthy and serious music fans with the 15 IPS reel-to-reel
     

    Not quite sure how you could tell the difference...the tapes back then usually copied from stereophonic vinyl records? I had a friend who had such a tape player. I remember visiting him once and listening to King Crimson's first LP, "In the Court of the Crimson King". It was a very high quality listening experience (to my amateur ear) with a very deep sound. What made the experience even more interesting is that he had the option of running the music through some sort of an echo chamber too...

    Replies: @Dmitry

  835. German_reader says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-bomb-investigation.html

    During the first six weeks of the war in Gaza, Israel routinely used one of its biggest and most destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to an analysis of visual evidence by The New York Times.

    The video investigation focuses on the use of 2,000-pound bombs in an area of southern Gaza where Israel had ordered civilians to move for safety. While bombs of that size are used by several Western militaries, munitions experts say they are almost never dropped by U.S. forces in densely populated areas anymore.

    The Times programmed an artificial intelligence tool to scan satellite imagery of south Gaza for bomb craters. Times reporters manually reviewed the search results, looking for craters measuring roughly 40 feet across or larger. Munitions experts say typically only 2,000-pound bombs form craters of that size in Gaza’s light, sandy soil.

    Ultimately, the investigation identified 208 craters in satellite imagery and drone footage. Because of limited satellite imagery and variations in a bomb’s effects, there are likely to have been many cases that were not captured. But the findings reveal that 2,000-pound bombs posed a pervasive threat to civilians seeking safety across south Gaza.

    In response to questions about the bomb’s use in south Gaza, an Israeli military spokesman said in a statement to The Times that Israel’s priority was destroying Hamas and “questions of this kind will be looked into at a later stage.” The spokesman also said that the I.D.F. “takes feasible precautions to mitigate civilian harm.”

    But U.S. officials have said that Israel should do more to reduce civilian casualties while fighting Hamas. The Pentagon increased shipments to Israel of smaller bombs that it considers better suited to urban environments like Gaza. Still, since October, the United States has also sent more than 5,000 MK-84 munitions — a type of 2,000-pound bomb.

    Looks like my earlier comment has been confirmed by the NYT, lol.
    So the “evacuation”, “safe zones” etc. were just for show, to dupe Western audiences. Looks like Netanyahu and his government really were serious about that “expulsion to Sinai” proposal.

    • Replies: @A123
    @German_reader

    Everybody notices you did not answer the critical question:

    How else is the IDF supposed to fight such a degenerate foe?

    Palestinian Jews are not stupid. There are not going into tunnels on anything other than hostage rescue missions. Using large bombs to crack tunnels is solid strategy.

    Despite Not-The-President Biden's interference on behalf of Hamas, Palestinian Jews are making good progress against Jihadist terror. (1)


    Amid reports that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has eliminated more than 8,000 terrorists after eleven weeks of campaign in Gaza, the military is closing in on Hamas’s Gaza chief Yahya Sinwar, Israel’s defense minister said.

    “One thing is clear – Yahya Sinwar now hears the IDF tractors above him, the Air Force bombs and the IDF’s actions. He will soon meet the barrels of our guns,” Defense Minister Yoav Gallant declared Friday. Sinwar, who is regarded as the key architect of the October 7 massacre, is believed to be hiding in southern Gaza as Israeli ground troops bring most of the Hamas stronghold in the north under their control.
     
    There are no plans for disorderly migration into the Sinai after Hamas is defeated. Just the opposite. Everyone (except you) expects the Muslim occupiers to stay in Gaza.
    ____

    Sorry to repeat this -- In the real world, the post conflict concept remains the same. Short-term, a three tier system for Gaza seems inevitable:

    -1- Israel will maintain security control. This will prevent Hamas from reforming. It will have ongoing costs, however this is not an unaffordable burden.

    -2- Easily abused projects, such as heavy construction will go through a shared body that represents both Israel’s legitimate security concerns and Gaza’s needs. Eliminating diversion of resources to violence should produce better yield on these efforts.

    -3- Gaza will resume local control for civil administration — Water, electricity, sewage, courts, etc. Presumably this will include elections which will exclude remnants of Iranian Hamas and Palestinian Iranian Jihad [PIJ] from running.

    Long-term, Hamas unilaterally destroyed the aquifer under Gaza and that is unfixable. Islam 100% owns the problem of providing fresh water to the people of Gaza. Will Muslim nations band together to pledge construction and annual operating costs for the largest desalinization project in the world? If not, how will Islam align Gaza’s population and fresh water supply?

    One can still hope that eventually Islam will leave Bethlehem, allowing it to once again be a Christian city.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ____________________________

    (1) https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/12/idf-eliminated-over-8000-gaza-terrorists-since-october-7/
    , @Yevardian
    @German_reader


    Looks like Netanyahu and his government really were serious about that “expulsion to Sinai” proposal.
     
    If it really were going to end up there that I'd ultimately find that acceptable myself. I think the entire world is well and true sick of the endless Israel-Palestine Conflict and if the Palestinian Arabs began being mass deported, public opinion (outside the Muslim world) would secretly breathe a sigh relief that this tedious and bloody quagmire was finally over.

    But the problem is, the US and Europe is largely paying the bill for for Israel's war (in both money and reputation), whilst they'll probably recieve the brunt of refugees later as well.
    Most ironically the exact same Jewish and/or Zionist organisations most fervent in cheerleading this war of expulsion-or-annihilation now will also be the ones most shrill in hectoring the West for not being too mean and 'uninclusive' of the often raucous Palestinian refugees that'll inevitably end up here.

  836. @sudden death
    @sudden death


    Ukraine will very likely receive the first batch of F-16s before the end of 2023. Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte confirmed on December 22 during a phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that the Dutch government will prepare an initial 18 F-16 fighter jets for delivery to Ukraine.[6] While Rutte did not confirm the timeline for F-16 delivery, a recent Estonian Ministry of Defense strategy document stated that the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, and Belgium have already committed to donating F-16s to Ukraine "before the end of the year [2023]."[7]
     
    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-22-2023

    Replies: @sudden death

    To think of it further, if the UA reports about three downed RF jets in a day will be confirmed, this might indicate that Western supplied planes are already operating in the skies of UA and the hunt has been succesful?

    Anyway, reality will break through anyway sooner or later and we will see more clear potential indications such as lowered intensity of air frontbombing by RF in the coming months if those F-16’s will be truly effective.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @sudden death


    To think of it further, if the UA reports about three downed RF jets in a day will be confirmed, this might indicate that Western supplied planes are already operating in the skies of UA and the hunt has been succesful?
     
    From what I've heard:

    Ukrainian aviation expert Valeriy Romanenko told Ukrainian NV Radio he believed Patriot missiles most likely downed the Russian jets.

    "This was a situation there the Russians were...dropping up to 100 bombs in the south. Three were flying together and got caught. They didn't quite take into account that the Patriot has a range of 160 km for aerodynamic targets," Romanenko said.
     

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-claims-it-shot-down-3-russian-su-34-fighter-jets-4726299#:~:text=Ukrainian%20aviation%20expert%20Valeriy%20Romanenko%20told%20Ukrainian%20NV,south.%20Three%20were%20flying%20together%20and%20got%20caught.
  837. @sudden death
    @sudden death

    To think of it further, if the UA reports about three downed RF jets in a day will be confirmed, this might indicate that Western supplied planes are already operating in the skies of UA and the hunt has been succesful?

    Anyway, reality will break through anyway sooner or later and we will see more clear potential indications such as lowered intensity of air frontbombing by RF in the coming months if those F-16's will be truly effective.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    To think of it further, if the UA reports about three downed RF jets in a day will be confirmed, this might indicate that Western supplied planes are already operating in the skies of UA and the hunt has been succesful?

    From what I’ve heard:

    Ukrainian aviation expert Valeriy Romanenko told Ukrainian NV Radio he believed Patriot missiles most likely downed the Russian jets.

    “This was a situation there the Russians were…dropping up to 100 bombs in the south. Three were flying together and got caught. They didn’t quite take into account that the Patriot has a range of 160 km for aerodynamic targets,” Romanenko said.

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-claims-it-shot-down-3-russian-su-34-fighter-jets-4726299#:~:text=Ukrainian%20aviation%20expert%20Valeriy%20Romanenko%20told%20Ukrainian%20NV,south.%20Three%20were%20flying%20together%20and%20got%20caught.

    • Thanks: sudden death
  838. @Dmitry
    @QCIC


    early CD players reportedly did not sound
     
    This is probably unfair although I think we can infer the explanations for why some people experienced "harsh" sound when CDs were introduced in the 1980s.

    A blogger even tested this buying of an 1986 Technics CD player. You can see in his results it added +0,6 db at 15 kHz, although only around +0,2 db at 10 kHz.

    Would this create negative effect you could hear? Compared to more recent CD players? No. You are not going to notice only +0,2 db at 10 kHz.

    So what are the explanations for the view of early CDs are harsh?

    In terms of the hardware explanation, I would guess it is because people were comparing to vinyl, when there was often roll off on the cartridges even earlier than 10 kHz. For example, frequency response of Shure cartridges of 1970s look like a downhill ski race. Also, if you don't replace the cartridges they would develop roll off as they are aging.

    This theory would be some of the consumers of vinyl were habituated to roll-off. So, maybe the CD was viewed as harsh just because it didn't have roll off.


    digital-to-analog reconstruction circuitry which were later addressed. The bigger problem which has already been mentioned is that many classic recordings were re-mixed for the CD product, supposedly to take advantage of the CD

     

    With early digital recordings, the engineers were newbies with using of the new equipment so the rate of mistakes could have been higher, understanding of the best practices could have been lower.

    There are also often problems when the analogue recordings are digitally remastered. So, Deutsche Grammophon and EMI of 1990s have made really strange digital remastering of the analogues recordings for their CD releasing of analogue recordings.

    Also some of the 1980s Deutsch Grammophon digital recordings which sound strange even for my amateur hearing.


    analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records

     

    Lol those are the most wealthy and serious music fans with the 15 IPS reel-to-reel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDMJSg0a5u0

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records

    Lol those are the most wealthy and serious music fans with the 15 IPS reel-to-reel

    Not quite sure how you could tell the difference…the tapes back then usually copied from stereophonic vinyl records? I had a friend who had such a tape player. I remember visiting him once and listening to King Crimson’s first LP, “In the Court of the Crimson King”. It was a very high quality listening experience (to my amateur ear) with a very deep sound. What made the experience even more interesting is that he had the option of running the music through some sort of an echo chamber too…

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    y copied from stereophonic vinyl records?

     

    More popular or expensive tapes are often copied from the studio master. This is what the music fans are spending around $1000 per album for new 1st generation 15 IPS albums from the master tape.
    https://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&categoryid=406&OrderBy=price_d+desc

    From the technology view, the 16/44,1 redbook standard for CD can have almost all information our ears can perceive.*

    I guess the issue same as with the vinyl is people don't like the way a lot of the songs had been mastered, which is of course rational when you hear the digital mastering in the pop music world where they usually brickwall everything.


    I remember visiting him once and listening to King Crimson’s first LP, “In the Court of the Crimson King”.

     

    It seems this album costs around $1400 if we want to buy the 1969 version now in the relatively unplayed condition. https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2287669?sort=price%2Cdesc&ev=rb

    You can understand why the fan of pop/rock music are paying more for vinyl/tape. The original mastering was for the vinyl format and there have been so many problems of the remastering and the post-1990s mastering in the pop music world.

    The dynamics of pop music was destroyed by the people who listen to music in car or background. After the 1990s, pop music has been mastered as a kind kind of noise pollution,

    While classical music is impossible enough for anyone to listen in the car, so the engineers mostly brickwall for some kind of unusual compilations, classical radio stations, "Mozart for babies". Although there were still plenty of problems in the classical albums.

    -


    It's sad when you see that pop music in the 1980s for the vinyl release, they still mastered for people who were not listening in the car.

    I haven't measured the dynamic ranges for these 1980s songs, but checking with your ears you can see the vinyl original release had more dynamic range than pop music of today. Although the main difference was the artist's overall view about the dynamics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3uR8Gw0vNE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26_LgmwrpMc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek6VP60MPwA

    -


    *Visual information is very different than with audio, where we will need to go at least 8K perhaps next decade before we can represent all the detail which was seen in the cinema originally in the films especially 70mm. Unfortunately as most of the young generations don't have that much interest in films in this way, there will probably be lack of funding to restore many films to 8K.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  839. German_reader says:

    In reaction to the recent comments by Ukraine’s minister of defense about Ukrainians living abroad German “conservatives” have begun insinuating that Ukrainian men in Germany should be sent back to Ukraine to fight in the war:
    https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ukraine-krieg-es-gibt-kein-recht-auf-fahnenflucht-19400836.html
    (“There is no right to dodge conscription”).
    I would have preferred if they had come to such a conclusion regarding Eritreans and other groups, but I guess in those cases there isn’t an overriding Transatlanticist proxy war imperative.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    One thing at a time GR.

    https://image.cagle.com/174636/750/174636.png

    What's interesting to me is that European countries are more willing to turnback Ukrainian conscript age men than Canada was towards the US during the Vietnam war era.

    Replies: @German_reader

  840. @German_reader
    In reaction to the recent comments by Ukraine's minister of defense about Ukrainians living abroad German "conservatives" have begun insinuating that Ukrainian men in Germany should be sent back to Ukraine to fight in the war:
    https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ukraine-krieg-es-gibt-kein-recht-auf-fahnenflucht-19400836.html
    ("There is no right to dodge conscription").
    I would have preferred if they had come to such a conclusion regarding Eritreans and other groups, but I guess in those cases there isn't an overriding Transatlanticist proxy war imperative.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    One thing at a time GR.

    What’s interesting to me is that European countries are more willing to turnback Ukrainian conscript age men than Canada was towards the US during the Vietnam war era.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Mr. Hack

    I don't think it's going to happen. I just think it's crazy that such arguments are even being made.

  841. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow

    Ukrainian American superstar actor John Hodiak and his beautiful actress wife Ann Baxter. Real Hollywood royalty, no sweatshirts needed:

    https://tessa2.lapl.org/digital/api/singleitem/image/photos/34543/default.jpg

    Replies: @Beckow, @Gerard1234

    Hack, stop being a cretin. There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be “Ukrainian”.

    Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.

    To have thought of self as “Ukrainian – American” he would have to be a proud Stalinist near the end of his life, because Stalin is the only thing that connects the land he was born in to any “Ukraine” LOL!!!

    That strange, sick-looking ukronazi bitch in the film “The Departed” with Jack Nicholson…. does look very similar around the eyes to that golodomor-fake statue of the fake-starving girl built in 404.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234


    There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be “Ukrainian”.Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.
     
    I'm beginning to believe AP's assessments of your opinions here. Who's really the "cretin" here?:

    https://youtu.be/Njch2eqXXz4

    John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US and yet was a very patriotic supporter of Ukraine. His stirring speech starts at 10:07 (in Ukrainian), however, the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.

    Replies: @AP, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

  842. @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack

    Hack, stop being a cretin. There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be "Ukrainian".

    Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.

    To have thought of self as "Ukrainian - American" he would have to be a proud Stalinist near the end of his life, because Stalin is the only thing that connects the land he was born in to any "Ukraine" LOL!!!

    That strange, sick-looking ukronazi bitch in the film "The Departed" with Jack Nicholson.... does look very similar around the eyes to that golodomor-fake statue of the fake-starving girl built in 404.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be “Ukrainian”.Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.

    I’m beginning to believe AP’s assessments of your opinions here. Who’s really the “cretin” here?:

    John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US and yet was a very patriotic supporter of Ukraine. His stirring speech starts at 10:07 (in Ukrainian), however, the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    His speech is indeed very stirring. His language is interesting - a little different from that of the immediate post-war Galician immigrants, but closer to it than to modern speech in Ukraine. His parents were from what is now Lviv oblast, they came to America in 1912

    I know you probably celebrate on January 7, but Merry Christmas to you and to the others here.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. Hack

    , @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I wonder if this was funded by the CIA?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

    , @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack


    the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.
     
    Not even 10 minutes of playing time - and even then can't fill it with all "Ukrainian" music ( no such thing as a Ukrainian composer). A lady called Olga Dmitrieva playing piano. My Father, when I was a kid, did like me to play that particular nocturne by Chopin - it is a pleasant one.

    As for Hodiak. he is just talking generic shit about helping these children/orphans and thanking everyone. Doesn't mention a word that is anti-Soviet or anything about Russia. He doesn't say where exactly these children, particularly the orphans, are coming from before they arrive on American soil ( which is important to know if we are talking about OUN/UPA scum). Doesn't say a single thing about ukrop culture, its memory for him when he was a child etc.Is he even clear on v or na ukraini??!!!! It's just about helping these kids, and very difficult to guess what are the political and nationalistic themes from this concert/fundraiser. Is there anything definitive to suggest he thinks Ukrainians and Russians are separate people?

    It does seem clear that no orphans were actually taken to America - and all the time this was just some front for smuggling Banderetard scum and their families into the US.

    Now, I had never heard of this guy Hodiak before. It is interesting to see that one of his first acting parts was playing a Russian in an American film called "Song for Russia". Made during the war , so a propaganda film in favour of Russia and USSR. Presumably no Russian skills needed for his part - which make it more interesting he decided to act in it. So never played a "Ukrainian", but played a Russian ( zero surprise as there is zero hint of any "Ukraine" or ukrainian diaspora "community" in Hollywood,ever,LOL)

    One other thing is that this was in 1947, and this so-called "Mcarthyism" thing in US. Not something I know much about, but some very successful Hollywood actors, directors and writers had their careers destroyed for alleged pro-communist views. By1947, White Russia/Tsarist diaspora lobby in US would be near extinct as a force - particularly as of course helping the efforts to save Russia by defeating Nazi Germany, and Russia totally associated with USSR by now. So what exactly should a person in Hodiak's situation actually do? He has to preserve his career, has to disassociate himself from the pro-Russia/Soviet film, anything russophile would be viewed as pro-Soviet then...........so what exactly can he do except associate himself with this subtle Banderetard nonsense?

    The question remains, what ethnicity would he have put when emigrating into US?
    Question remains if he was lying in the early 1940's when playing a Russian to make pro-Soviet war effort film......or lying in 1947 when participating in this khokhol stuff?

    I’m beginning to believe AP’s assessments of your opinions here. Who’s really the “cretin” here?:
     
    In other words........you know just as much as me that this AP freak is not Ukrainian in any possible way. LOL - if you are fake only "beginning to believe" this spamtroll freaks assessments then considering how often he is here - that is not much of an endorsement.

    I will say thanks to you for the link though - interesting.

    Replies: @AP

  843. @Mr. Hack
    @German_reader

    One thing at a time GR.

    https://image.cagle.com/174636/750/174636.png

    What's interesting to me is that European countries are more willing to turnback Ukrainian conscript age men than Canada was towards the US during the Vietnam war era.

    Replies: @German_reader

    I don’t think it’s going to happen. I just think it’s crazy that such arguments are even being made.

  844. Been holding in this comment about bread because I didn’t want to appear too reactionary:

    [MORE]

    IMO, nothing could be more ahistorical than the fancy breads today, made with six grains, sugar, and very selective yeasts to give them an airy texture. Grown from GMO monocultures, free of toxic weeds and fungi.

    Where I do detect some similarities is in the relatively higher costs and in the fact that back then pieces of the grindstone would break off and be in the flour. Today this is emulated with indigestable seeds, which are added for purely cosmetic purposes. If you toast, it is like carbonizing steel or the tip of a spear, you are just making it more damaging to teeth.

    Probably Wonder Bread is the most nutritionally superior bread that has ever existed.

    But take that all with a grain of salt, as most of my people were probably not eating bread, but some kind of barley or oat gruel. And one of my parents was hospitalized because of celiac, while a young teenager.

  845. @German_reader
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-bomb-investigation.html

    During the first six weeks of the war in Gaza, Israel routinely used one of its biggest and most destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to an analysis of visual evidence by The New York Times.

    The video investigation focuses on the use of 2,000-pound bombs in an area of southern Gaza where Israel had ordered civilians to move for safety. While bombs of that size are used by several Western militaries, munitions experts say they are almost never dropped by U.S. forces in densely populated areas anymore.

    The Times programmed an artificial intelligence tool to scan satellite imagery of south Gaza for bomb craters. Times reporters manually reviewed the search results, looking for craters measuring roughly 40 feet across or larger. Munitions experts say typically only 2,000-pound bombs form craters of that size in Gaza’s light, sandy soil.

    Ultimately, the investigation identified 208 craters in satellite imagery and drone footage. Because of limited satellite imagery and variations in a bomb’s effects, there are likely to have been many cases that were not captured. But the findings reveal that 2,000-pound bombs posed a pervasive threat to civilians seeking safety across south Gaza.

    In response to questions about the bomb’s use in south Gaza, an Israeli military spokesman said in a statement to The Times that Israel’s priority was destroying Hamas and “questions of this kind will be looked into at a later stage.” The spokesman also said that the I.D.F. “takes feasible precautions to mitigate civilian harm.”

    But U.S. officials have said that Israel should do more to reduce civilian casualties while fighting Hamas. The Pentagon increased shipments to Israel of smaller bombs that it considers better suited to urban environments like Gaza. Still, since October, the United States has also sent more than 5,000 MK-84 munitions — a type of 2,000-pound bomb.
     

    Looks like my earlier comment has been confirmed by the NYT, lol.
    So the "evacuation", "safe zones" etc. were just for show, to dupe Western audiences. Looks like Netanyahu and his government really were serious about that "expulsion to Sinai" proposal.

    Replies: @A123, @Yevardian

    Everybody notices you did not answer the critical question:

    How else is the IDF supposed to fight such a degenerate foe?

    Palestinian Jews are not stupid. There are not going into tunnels on anything other than hostage rescue missions. Using large bombs to crack tunnels is solid strategy.

    Despite Not-The-President Biden’s interference on behalf of Hamas, Palestinian Jews are making good progress against Jihadist terror. (1)

    Amid reports that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has eliminated more than 8,000 terrorists after eleven weeks of campaign in Gaza, the military is closing in on Hamas’s Gaza chief Yahya Sinwar, Israel’s defense minister said.

    “One thing is clear – Yahya Sinwar now hears the IDF tractors above him, the Air Force bombs and the IDF’s actions. He will soon meet the barrels of our guns,” Defense Minister Yoav Gallant declared Friday. Sinwar, who is regarded as the key architect of the October 7 massacre, is believed to be hiding in southern Gaza as Israeli ground troops bring most of the Hamas stronghold in the north under their control.

    There are no plans for disorderly migration into the Sinai after Hamas is defeated. Just the opposite. Everyone (except you) expects the Muslim occupiers to stay in Gaza.
    ____

    Sorry to repeat this — In the real world, the post conflict concept remains the same. Short-term, a three tier system for Gaza seems inevitable:

    -1- Israel will maintain security control. This will prevent Hamas from reforming. It will have ongoing costs, however this is not an unaffordable burden.

    -2- Easily abused projects, such as heavy construction will go through a shared body that represents both Israel’s legitimate security concerns and Gaza’s needs. Eliminating diversion of resources to violence should produce better yield on these efforts.

    -3- Gaza will resume local control for civil administration — Water, electricity, sewage, courts, etc. Presumably this will include elections which will exclude remnants of Iranian Hamas and Palestinian Iranian Jihad [PIJ] from running.

    Long-term, Hamas unilaterally destroyed the aquifer under Gaza and that is unfixable. Islam 100% owns the problem of providing fresh water to the people of Gaza. Will Muslim nations band together to pledge construction and annual operating costs for the largest desalinization project in the world? If not, how will Islam align Gaza’s population and fresh water supply?

    One can still hope that eventually Islam will leave Bethlehem, allowing it to once again be a Christian city.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ____________________________

    (1) https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/12/idf-eliminated-over-8000-gaza-terrorists-since-october-7/

  846. Fourth Sunday of Advent (1)

    Reading 1 — 2 Sm 7:1-5, 8b-12, 14a, 16

    When King David was settled in his palace,
    and the LORD had given him rest from his enemies on every side,
    he said to Nathan the prophet,
    “Here I am living in a house of cedar,
    while the ark of God dwells in a tent!”
    Nathan answered the king,
    “Go, do whatever you have in mind,
    for the LORD is with you.”
    But that night the LORD spoke to Nathan and said:
    “Go, tell my servant David, ‘Thus says the LORD:
    Should you build me a house to dwell in?’
    “It was I who took you from the pasture
    and from the care of the flock
    to be commander of my people Israel.
    I have been with you wherever you went,
    and I have destroyed all your enemies before you.
    And I will make you famous like the great ones of the earth.
    I will fix a place for my people Israel;
    I will plant them so that they may dwell in their place
    without further disturbance.
    Neither shall the wicked continue to afflict them as they did of old,
    since the time I first appointed judges over my people Israel.
    I will give you rest from all your enemies.
    The LORD also reveals to you
    that he will establish a house for you.
    And when your time comes and you rest with your ancestors,
    I will raise up your heir after you, sprung from your loins,
    and I will make his kingdom firm.
    I will be a father to him,
    and he shall be a son to me.
    Your house and your kingdom shall endure forever before me;
    your throne shall stand firm forever.”

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ____________________________
    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/24/fourth-sunday-of-advent-5/

  847. @AP
    @Beckow


    Come to think of it, Zelko is the right age male as far as we know – he could flip once in exile but for now he identifies as a man… but Zelko, Porky (not in office now), Yatsenyuk, and all of their male kids and relatives are not dying on the front
     
    A leader of a pro-Russian party (before the war) is in uniform, fighting against Russians though.

    It's Kharkiv mayor Dobkin, from the hilarious video from many years ago.

    https://censor.net/en/photo_news/3372029/markovich_on_a_tank_former_head_of_kharkiv_regional_state_administration_dobkin_was_spotted_in_afu_uniform

    The video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltEvbum6LlE

    Replies: @Anatoly Karlin

    Out of curiosity has Dobkin been seen in uniform since 2022?

    Or is it more like Milonov who joined the Donbass campaign to great fanfare, was photographed in fatigues, and then quietly went back to politicking?

    PS. I actually just Googled that myself. LOL. https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/12/16/7381062/ When are you going to admit this is a mutual charade?

    • Thanks: AP
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin


    As you know I am against the existence of all nation-states including the RF but insofar as they continue to exist my ideal vision for Russia now is to become a gay merchant republic, aspiring to the likes of Sweden or the Netherlands.

     

    Anatoly, I have a question in regards to this from your last post: How exactly do you plan to make Russians respect the rule-of-law and oppose corruption to the same extent that Dutch and Scandinavians do? After all, East Slavic countries, even democratic Ukraine, don't exactly have a super-stellar reputation in this regard. I wonder what percentage of East Slavic corruption and distaste for the rule-of-law is a result of the Soviet legacy and how much of it is due to other, possibly genetic factors:

    https://jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/corruption-perceptions-index-2016.jpg

    By comparing Moldova vs. Romania and Taiwan vs. China in regards to corruption, we can see that Communism/a Communist legacy can affect a country's corruption levels by quite a bit. My hunch is that Galicia-Volhynia are more honest than the rest of Ukraine is due to them being less corrupted by Communism, but I don't know by just how much.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

  848. Sol Foundation Symposium report report.

    1. The report is a 3 hour video on the Through a Glass Darkly youtube channel.

    2. They present the only details I have been able to find on the entire internet of the two day meeting last month at Stanford of all the major actors in the current (since December 2017) CIA UFO disclosure project. The public was not invited. The Sol Foundation (i. e. Gary Nolan) has claimed that video of all the presentations will be made available to the public. They didn’t say when and it hasn’t happened yet.

    3. Not one single new item of any importance. Tyler (not his real name) in Pasulka’s book American Cosmic is biotech entrepreneur Tim Taylor. This is as close to new as the information gets and I presume just about everybody already knew this.

    4. Eric Davis, author of the now canonical Davis Wilson memo (the purported leak of the century) was listed on the agenda and not mentioned in the Through a G.D. video. Did he not show? Was what he said too shocking for these two guys (who were invited attendees and want to be invited to the next party) to discuss? Does anybody give a hoot?

    5. Lue Elizondo was mentioned. He was on the program and didn’t show up.

    6. David Grusch was mentioned. I forget what they said.

    7. Chris Mellon was discussed at length. The two guys are fans. I am not. His material is covered on his substack.

    https://thedebrief.org/disclosure-and-national-security-should-the-u-s-government-reveal-what-it-knows-about-uap/

    8. The only other item worth mentioning is something they didn’t mention. There isn’t a single scrap of reliable evidence that the government is in possession of one single scrap of reliable evidence that anybody would be interested in seeing. It all comes down to one sentence in the Davis Wilson memo. Somebody said somebody said somebody said . . . (the level of nested hearsay is not known–it could be as small as third hand and as large as a hundred) Lockheed has an intact spacecraft “not of this earth and not made by human hands” they are trying to reverse engineer.

    9. As I wrote above, Davis (the author of the Davis Wilson memo) was on the speaker agenda and nothing about Davis’s presence at the symposium, or absence at the symposium, or his past, present or future being was mentioned in the Beyond a G.D. video.

    I might possibly have missed something worth mentioning. I only tried to pay attention to these idiots because I am so obsessive compulsive on the topic that I am always looking up in the sky. I have seen a lot of weird stuff but I have never seen a flying saucer or a Martian.

    [MORE]

    the three hours of video with no new information

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence? Is there anything archaeological with star maps or pictures of spacecraft which is good enough to strongly suggest ET contact? Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?

    I believe I read about a star map in Japan and have heard of Vimanas but have not investigated.

    On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the "darker aspect" of alien contact?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It was just a 1960's sci-fi TV show but I always appreciated the original Star Trek series treatment of the subject... :-)

    https://youtu.be/57POF6c1pjc?si=3XwkTqf7DaVeFaBg

    https://youtu.be/fyPMtpE7kAE?si=PFC2eHDok6ouSnkw

    Replies: @songbird

  849. @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234


    There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be “Ukrainian”.Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.
     
    I'm beginning to believe AP's assessments of your opinions here. Who's really the "cretin" here?:

    https://youtu.be/Njch2eqXXz4

    John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US and yet was a very patriotic supporter of Ukraine. His stirring speech starts at 10:07 (in Ukrainian), however, the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.

    Replies: @AP, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    His speech is indeed very stirring. His language is interesting – a little different from that of the immediate post-war Galician immigrants, but closer to it than to modern speech in Ukraine. His parents were from what is now Lviv oblast, they came to America in 1912

    I know you probably celebrate on January 7, but Merry Christmas to you and to the others here.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Lmao-what an absurd charade!!!

    1. As has been proven numerous times, a worthless scumbag as yourself cannot speak Ukrainian. It's so sick and disturbing what trash like you tries to do - use your experience of writing a trillion posts on here to mimic pretending you listened to Hack's clip by writing generic nonsense based on the years this Hodiak guy was born and where (I. E this idiotic charade of "speech not like post-war galician"- which is of course instantaneous BS made based on his years of birth and nothing else)

    2. Satanist trash as yourself should in no way be associated with Christmas from a religious view, or even the 99% Jewish created, secular, in parts fun one they do in Pindostan

    3. Very pleasant that in addition to your fake Ukrainianism, there is your fake attempt to "rescue" Ukrainians by having them live in your place of residence. Just where are the ukrop refugees in your place over western Christmas? Lmao. Why wouldn't you have there, sorry "save" them from genocide you ridiculous fraud!

    Replies: @Jazman, @AP

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    Individuals like John Hodiak and yourself are examples of diaspora Ukrainians that hold the torch high and bright with Ukraine in your hearts!

    I just came home from church services. Because our parish recently voted and accepted to change to celebrating Christmas on the 25th, it will indeed soon be Merry Christmas. Evening vespers were celebrated right after the regular mass. It does seem a bit strange for a lot of us, but it is what it is...

    Replies: @LatW

  850. @AP
    @Beckow


    But do you know who has ruled England for hundreds of years?
     
    If you knew Russian history better you would know that not only the royal family but even much of the aristocracy were foreign - Baltic Germans, people from Tatar descent, Lithuanians, Rurikids, etc.

    The Soviets Revolution swept away the older foreigners who ruled Russians and brought rule by Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians over Russians.

    But you don't know much about history.

    And what were the Habsburgs really “ethnically”? They were heavily inbred
     
    You don't even know the history of the family who ruled over you.

    The house of Habsburg-Lorraine that ruled Austria and Austria-Hungary after 1736 were not inbred. Inbreeding had been a problem primarily with the earlier ones (especially the Spanish ones).

    Thanks for demonstrating the inferiority of Slovak education.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don’t understand what a nation means, who are the English, French, Russians, Poles, Magyars…how a “nation” is formed. And that it is much better that way.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others. Sarkozy was a Magyar gypsy with Thessalonike Jew, Holland’s name speaks for itself, Macron is a total weirdo, I am not sure French would want to claim his blood.

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite, then a large group of Protestant Germans came in…then Jews, and now they are ruled by an Indian guy. Charles has almost no “English” blood and BoJo was a Turko-Danish-Celtic concoction with lots of added booze.You come across as a total moron blabbing half-digested idiocies. Your selective look at only the purity of “Russians” betrays your incurable hatred of them – all are pure in your world, but the damn Russians…riiight.

    You may need more than your anti-autism pills. But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs – pretty scary, but you will cherrypick again to medicate yourself, whatever…Merry Christmas…:)

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don’t understand what a nation means
     
    A lot of people make this mistake: do not see a difference between a state (citizens of a state constitute a nation) and a tribe. Historically, tribes predate states and disappear with the appearance of states. Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.

    Tribal state is a contradiction in terms. Any attempt to make a state tribal dooms it. Hitler trued to make Germany a tribal state. The result was inevitable, This is a normal evolutionary process: unfit are culled, the fittest survive. Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.

    Replies: @Sean, @Barbarossa

    , @AP
    @Beckow


    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy.
     
    My comment had nothing to do with pure blood. Once again you reveal more about yourself than say anything about me. Do thoughts of pure blood come into your mind so easily because of the Nazis your Slovaks so eagerly served?

    I didn't mention or discuss anything about purity, I pointed out that Russia in rather unique in how it is basically a project of foreigners who rule over Eastern Slavs, using a despotic political framework inherited from Mongol rulers/teachers that is very good at internal exploitation.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others
     
    French elite have historically been Frenchman, who themselves are a mixture of Gauls, Franks, and Romans (more of the latter in the south).

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite
     
    The closest parallel to Russia would be the situation when the English elite were Norman conquerors. But this happened once, 1,000 years ago, and did not repeat.

    In Russia, however, it has been an ingrained part of history. The very name Russia is derived from Norse and Wendish overlords who forced Eastern Slavs to give them furs, grin, honey to sell and even sold the Eastern Slavs themselves as slaves.

    So the first part of Russian history involved about a dozen branches of a Norse ruling family and their retinues, consisting of mostly Norsemen and some Wends. Then the Mongols came, provided the political culture, and added Tatars and Mongols to the mix of foreigners ruling Eastern Slavs. This was the traditional Muscovite state. Who ruled all those Eastern Slavs? Russian historian Vernadsky provided a survey:

    229 of Western European (including German) origin, 223 of Polish and Lithuanian origin (this number included Ruthenian nobility), 156 of Tatar and other Oriental origins, 168 families belonged to the House of Rurik and 42 were of unspecified "Russian" origin.

    Peter the Great reformed the state and added a sea of Baltic Germans and other Western people to the mix of the ruling class who were non-Eastern Slavs, ruling Eastern Slavs. Eventually even his own ruling line was replaced by Germans.

    The Bolsheviks of course swept them all away, after the Revolution it was now the turn of Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians to rule over Eastern Slavs. They went much further and were far more brutal than their predecessors, they killed millions of them. Still, the Russian people love their cruel Georgian master.

    Such is the historical pattern of Russia: non Eastern-Slavs ruling Eastern Slavs.

    While other places had foreign ruling families (Germans in England) or a foreign ruling class immediately after a conquest, no other place consistently, century after century, had an entire ruling class that was so different in origin from the masses they ruled. An internal colonial system. Prussian Junkers were - Germans. Polish szlachta were - Poles. Same for France, Italy, etc. Ukrainian elites, such as they were, were mostly Eastern Slavs. But Russia's elites were largely families of Baltic German, Tatar, Lithuanian, etc. origins. Some had ancient East Slavic boyar origins, but they were just a part of the mix.

    To the extent that this is true in modern Ukraine, it is a product of Russian cultural influence. And naturally is not true of the least Russified parts of the country.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs
     
    Franz Josef was normal-looking and not inbred, same for Karl. Did you know that Slovakia was not part of Spain?

    But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.
     
    I'll return the sentiment.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

  851. @QCIC
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for the list.

    I still believe Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don't think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) 'bona fides'. Do you believe these politicians and bureaucrats on your list have any real power or are they puppets as well?

    Russia is probably pressuring the oligarchs or other true leaders in Ukraine to change the power structure and break the destructive Western ties. This may be a touchy process depending on how the Russian Jewish oligarchs fit into the picture.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow, @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    There are masses of Russians and Jews in important positions of power in Ukraine that I forgot to add -other government ministers, state agencies, banks, big companies etc.
    I forgot people like Klimkin who was Foreign Minister under Valtsman/Poroshenko, Serskiy – head of army and many others. Even though I knew they were in a minority, even I am shocked

    As for the power issue – I don’t think any of these trash has any actual power – the state is completely run by foreign powers.
    What is does though have a large ruling “elite” scum and bureaucracy who are receiving masses of foreign money, far over Ukraine GDP, in a country with unknown number of people living there, based on already massively inflated numbers based on a census done 23 years ago.
    It’s the most simple, high-earning corruption scheme in history and gives the officials zero incentive to stop the masses of ukrop cannon fodder getting annihilated and to end the SMO.

  852. @Emil Nikola Richard
    Sol Foundation Symposium report report.

    1. The report is a 3 hour video on the Through a Glass Darkly youtube channel.

    2. They present the only details I have been able to find on the entire internet of the two day meeting last month at Stanford of all the major actors in the current (since December 2017) CIA UFO disclosure project. The public was not invited. The Sol Foundation (i. e. Gary Nolan) has claimed that video of all the presentations will be made available to the public. They didn't say when and it hasn't happened yet.

    3. Not one single new item of any importance. Tyler (not his real name) in Pasulka's book American Cosmic is biotech entrepreneur Tim Taylor. This is as close to new as the information gets and I presume just about everybody already knew this.

    4. Eric Davis, author of the now canonical Davis Wilson memo (the purported leak of the century) was listed on the agenda and not mentioned in the Through a G.D. video. Did he not show? Was what he said too shocking for these two guys (who were invited attendees and want to be invited to the next party) to discuss? Does anybody give a hoot?

    5. Lue Elizondo was mentioned. He was on the program and didn't show up.

    6. David Grusch was mentioned. I forget what they said.

    7. Chris Mellon was discussed at length. The two guys are fans. I am not. His material is covered on his substack.

    https://thedebrief.org/disclosure-and-national-security-should-the-u-s-government-reveal-what-it-knows-about-uap/

    8. The only other item worth mentioning is something they didn't mention. There isn't a single scrap of reliable evidence that the government is in possession of one single scrap of reliable evidence that anybody would be interested in seeing. It all comes down to one sentence in the Davis Wilson memo. Somebody said somebody said somebody said . . . (the level of nested hearsay is not known--it could be as small as third hand and as large as a hundred) Lockheed has an intact spacecraft "not of this earth and not made by human hands" they are trying to reverse engineer.

    9. As I wrote above, Davis (the author of the Davis Wilson memo) was on the speaker agenda and nothing about Davis's presence at the symposium, or absence at the symposium, or his past, present or future being was mentioned in the Beyond a G.D. video.

    I might possibly have missed something worth mentioning. I only tried to pay attention to these idiots because I am so obsessive compulsive on the topic that I am always looking up in the sky. I have seen a lot of weird stuff but I have never seen a flying saucer or a Martian.



    the three hours of video with no new information

    https://youtu.be/tJKTIjgUJKQ

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence? Is there anything archaeological with star maps or pictures of spacecraft which is good enough to strongly suggest ET contact? Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?

    I believe I read about a star map in Japan and have heard of Vimanas but have not investigated.

    On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the “darker aspect” of alien contact?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence?
     
    My answer varies with time. I don't believe there is any one piece I would characterize as dependable. I am partial to professional civilian airplane pilot testimony. I don't know of any case where they witness beings but there are several where the phenomena display intentional behavior directly at the pilot.

    This one is a good example despite the wikipedia editorial process pooh pooh-ing of it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1628_incident


    Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?
     
    There is so damn much of it that you could spend twenty years of your life full time investigating and not get close to covering everything. No human has an answer to this question.

    > On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the “darker aspect” of alien contact?

    On this topic Tucker is an idiot. Roko's Basilisk takes a variety of forms.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @QCIC

  853. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence? Is there anything archaeological with star maps or pictures of spacecraft which is good enough to strongly suggest ET contact? Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?

    I believe I read about a star map in Japan and have heard of Vimanas but have not investigated.

    On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the "darker aspect" of alien contact?

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence?

    My answer varies with time. I don’t believe there is any one piece I would characterize as dependable. I am partial to professional civilian airplane pilot testimony. I don’t know of any case where they witness beings but there are several where the phenomena display intentional behavior directly at the pilot.

    This one is a good example despite the wikipedia editorial process pooh pooh-ing of it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1628_incident

    Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?

    There is so damn much of it that you could spend twenty years of your life full time investigating and not get close to covering everything. No human has an answer to this question.

    > On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the “darker aspect” of alien contact?

    On this topic Tucker is an idiot. Roko’s Basilisk takes a variety of forms.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My encounter with aliens did not go well.

     
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tractor_beam.png
     

    🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    , @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Sightings of UFO moving lights do not do much for me. Epistemologically it is less of a stretch to assume an explanation based on advanced human technology which is simply secret.

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am surprised the concept of Roko's Basilisk ever had any traction. If it actually does have any credibility with AI programmers. this suggests to me that these people know they are intentionally selling out humanity for a few pieces of silver (guilty conscience).

    Tucker is a limited hangout, but I wonder what message he is sending on this point? I don't think he would make such a cryptic statement unless there is some of his audience who knows what he means.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  854. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence?
     
    My answer varies with time. I don't believe there is any one piece I would characterize as dependable. I am partial to professional civilian airplane pilot testimony. I don't know of any case where they witness beings but there are several where the phenomena display intentional behavior directly at the pilot.

    This one is a good example despite the wikipedia editorial process pooh pooh-ing of it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1628_incident


    Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?
     
    There is so damn much of it that you could spend twenty years of your life full time investigating and not get close to covering everything. No human has an answer to this question.

    > On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the “darker aspect” of alien contact?

    On this topic Tucker is an idiot. Roko's Basilisk takes a variety of forms.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @QCIC

    My encounter with aliens did not go well.

     

     

    🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    Did you ever reply to the comment in the other thread where the guy wanted to know how you approved of Israel slaughtering women and children in Palestine and signed off with Peace?

    Replies: @A123

    , @sudden death
    @A123

    Somebody had it worse;)

    https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGE4qW5_460swp.webp

    🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄

  855. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence?
     
    My answer varies with time. I don't believe there is any one piece I would characterize as dependable. I am partial to professional civilian airplane pilot testimony. I don't know of any case where they witness beings but there are several where the phenomena display intentional behavior directly at the pilot.

    This one is a good example despite the wikipedia editorial process pooh pooh-ing of it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1628_incident


    Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?
     
    There is so damn much of it that you could spend twenty years of your life full time investigating and not get close to covering everything. No human has an answer to this question.

    > On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the “darker aspect” of alien contact?

    On this topic Tucker is an idiot. Roko's Basilisk takes a variety of forms.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @QCIC

    Sightings of UFO moving lights do not do much for me. Epistemologically it is less of a stretch to assume an explanation based on advanced human technology which is simply secret.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC

    A lot of people say Oumuamua.

    Not convinced but it does seem to have some pretty weird characteristics.

    Heard one guy theorizing the other day that it was some kind of interstellar beacon. But I have a really hard time understanding why anyone would believe that.

    For one thing, I don't understand why they wouldn't just use stars. That's what Voyager and Pioneer used, IIRC. Maybe, beacons would help between stars, if you needed to make adjustments or stops along the way, or maybe it could be a beacon that hands over planetary or other info, it has gathered - a beacon/sensing apparatus or base for sending probes.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    Yes. The disappearing aircraft carrier aircraft the Japanese pilot saw could have been a classified American aircraft. If the United States air force is that advanced why would we even care what anybody else does?

    The Phoenix lights I think was an American secret blimp. The thing the Japanese pilot saw was doing 747 cruising speed.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-227/#comment-6127643

  856. @QCIC
    @Gerard1234

    Thanks for the list.

    I still believe Zelensky is a puppet, probably operated by Jewish oligarchs (but which ones?). I don't think he makes any real policy, but he has clearly demonstrated his (((anti-Slavic))) 'bona fides'. Do you believe these politicians and bureaucrats on your list have any real power or are they puppets as well?

    Russia is probably pressuring the oligarchs or other true leaders in Ukraine to change the power structure and break the destructive Western ties. This may be a touchy process depending on how the Russian Jewish oligarchs fit into the picture.

    Replies: @A123, @Beckow, @Gerard1234, @Gerard1234

    Many thanks. Apologies for my post there not being neat, or the list as comprehensive as it actually should be- I was in a rush as had to get to a busy but enjoyable night yesterday. I will do a better review next time.

    There are masses of Russians and Jews in important positions of power in Ukraine that I forgot to add -other government ministers, state agencies, banks, big companies etc.
    I forgot people like Klimkin who was Foreign Minister under Valtsman/Poroshenko, Serskiy – head of army and many others.
    I am not sure what ethnicity Zaluzhniy name is, though this scumbag is a stereotypical gopnik – what a disgrace that plankton like this is head of VSU.

    Even though I knew they were in a minority, even I am shocked at the total lack of khokhols running the country. Not shocked for Banderastan that “derussification” results in extreme russification of their ruling elite. LMAO

    As for the power issue – I don’t think any of these trash has any actual power – the state is completely run by foreign powers.
    What is does have though is a large ruling “elite” scum and bureaucracy who are receiving masses of foreign money, far over Ukraine GDP, in a country with unknown number of people living there, based on already massively inflated numbers based on a census done 23 years ago.
    It’s the most simple, high-earning corruption scheme in history and gives the officials zero incentive to stop the masses of ukrop cannon fodder getting annihilated and to end the SMO.

    There is something both scientific and amusing here though. The near total lack of “yuk” “yak” “chuk” etc ending familia for ukronazis current ruling elite………… or even in the Galician/UPA or whatever excrement “nationalist” movements in the early 20th century to the 1950s!!!

    Those names are emphatically concentrated in the west of the country (spasticsville), but are disproportionately low in getting to the top in 404. Those rare ones who did – their ancestors almost all moved to Novorossiya or Kiev.
    Of course in Russia there are huge numbers of yuk, yak, chuk etc guys who have made great success of their lives after their ancestors moved east (particularly in Soviet time), but from a scientific view those with these names who always were in the west of 404 have for centuries been the worst of the worst. Lived in the worst part of Europe,been treated like sh*t by their Polish slaveowners, had the worst education, worst health, least rights, inbreeding, by far the lowest viewed ethnic group in the empire they were in – and it directly shows in ukrop composition in power and the schizophrenia there.
    Those who weren’t completely brain dead, or were the most enthusiastic at c*ck-sucking their Polish masters, did get allowed to adopt their Polish slaveowners name as their own (e.g ending in ‘skiy’ but still being non-Pole) and scientifically it appears to show in them doing better than the yak or yuk guys….and in having much more involvement or trust in Austrian/polish ukrop fake-nationalism movement

  857. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Sightings of UFO moving lights do not do much for me. Epistemologically it is less of a stretch to assume an explanation based on advanced human technology which is simply secret.

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    A lot of people say Oumuamua.

    Not convinced but it does seem to have some pretty weird characteristics.

    Heard one guy theorizing the other day that it was some kind of interstellar beacon. But I have a really hard time understanding why anyone would believe that.

    For one thing, I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just use stars. That’s what Voyager and Pioneer used, IIRC. Maybe, beacons would help between stars, if you needed to make adjustments or stops along the way, or maybe it could be a beacon that hands over planetary or other info, it has gathered – a beacon/sensing apparatus or base for sending probes.

  858. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    His speech is indeed very stirring. His language is interesting - a little different from that of the immediate post-war Galician immigrants, but closer to it than to modern speech in Ukraine. His parents were from what is now Lviv oblast, they came to America in 1912

    I know you probably celebrate on January 7, but Merry Christmas to you and to the others here.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. Hack

    Lmao-what an absurd charade!!!

    1. As has been proven numerous times, a worthless scumbag as yourself cannot speak Ukrainian. It’s so sick and disturbing what trash like you tries to do – use your experience of writing a trillion posts on here to mimic pretending you listened to Hack’s clip by writing generic nonsense based on the years this Hodiak guy was born and where (I. E this idiotic charade of “speech not like post-war galician”- which is of course instantaneous BS made based on his years of birth and nothing else)

    2. Satanist trash as yourself should in no way be associated with Christmas from a religious view, or even the 99% Jewish created, secular, in parts fun one they do in Pindostan

    3. Very pleasant that in addition to your fake Ukrainianism, there is your fake attempt to “rescue” Ukrainians by having them live in your place of residence. Just where are the ukrop refugees in your place over western Christmas? Lmao. Why wouldn’t you have there, sorry “save” them from genocide you ridiculous fraud!

    • Replies: @Jazman
    @Gerard1234

    I am glad you are back to give this fake Ukie what he deserve

    Replies: @AP

    , @AP
    @Gerard1234

    You were caught writing nonsense as usual about Ukrainian patriot John Hodiak, so now write more nonsense about me.

    Replies: @Derer

  859. @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My encounter with aliens did not go well.

     
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tractor_beam.png
     

    🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    Did you ever reply to the comment in the other thread where the guy wanted to know how you approved of Israel slaughtering women and children in Palestine and signed off with Peace?

    • Replies: @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    LOL... What a ridiculous Taqiyya Troll question.

    I want & encourage peace. I do not approve of Islam using Muslim women and children as human shields. However, that choice was taken in the name of the Anti-Christ Muhammad, enemy of Jesus.

    Everyone notices that you, like G_R, refuse to answer the critical question:

    How else is the IDF supposed to fight such a degenerate foe?

    Your hypocrisy and opposition to peace is discordant.

    PEACE 😇

  860. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Sightings of UFO moving lights do not do much for me. Epistemologically it is less of a stretch to assume an explanation based on advanced human technology which is simply secret.

    Replies: @songbird, @Emil Nikola Richard

    Yes. The disappearing aircraft carrier aircraft the Japanese pilot saw could have been a classified American aircraft. If the United States air force is that advanced why would we even care what anybody else does?

    The Phoenix lights I think was an American secret blimp. The thing the Japanese pilot saw was doing 747 cruising speed.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-227/#comment-6127643

  861. How well do these 6 SMRs that the Poles are building translate into nuclear weapons? Could they be “embezzling” the plutonium? And perhaps have spies in some of these nascent German rocket companies, which are built using international talent?

    • LOL: A123
  862. The Deer’s Cry by Arvo Pärt.

    Lyrics from an Old Irish lorica, “St Patrick’s Breastplate” (prayer of protection, 11th century).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Breastplate

    The translator in the Middle Ages mistranslated Féth fíada (magical mist or shroud of invisibility in Irish mythology, which ancient Celtic deities concealed themselves in) as “deer’s cry”.

    A good rendering of the prayer here:
    https://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/Poetry/StPatrick.html

    The (mis)translation of “deer’s cry” is reminiscent of Psalm 42:
    As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, my God.

    From the prayer:

    I arise today, through the strength of Heaven:
    light of Sun, brilliance of Moon, splendour of Fire,
    speed of Lightning, swiftness of Wind, depth of Sea,
    stability of Earth, firmness of Rock.

    Arvo Pärt used the following fragment of the invocation in his piece:

    Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me,
    Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right,
    Christ on my left, Christ in breadth, Christ in length,
    Christ in height, Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
    Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks of me,
    Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW

    Did you ever see the 2017 film Pilgrimage?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage_(2017_film)

    I did not enjoy it and am not recommending it. The film was too woke for me, among other shortcomings.

    But I thought the final minute or two was interesting because, if you can disregard what is probably meant to be woke nihilism in much of the narrative, there's maybe a hidden message - I'm thinking it wasn't intentional but accidental, though I am not sure. (Spoiler)
    Basically, at the beginning of the movie there is this sacred relic stone, and they say something like"If you replaced it with another stone, nobody would know."

    At the end, after some amount of fighting and death, one guy throws it from a boat into an estuary and it sinks down among the other rocks and becomes indistinguishable.

    And from that, I took the message that every stone of Ireland is sacred, even below the low tide mark, though I doubt that is what they intended.

    Replies: @LatW

    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW

    "Magical midst" is nowadays known simply as clouds, where gods, today known as UFO/UAP, still reside from time to time - notice very geometrical shapes of clouds from time to time.

    Unfortunately, early cult of gods was actually cargo cult leading to self-mutilation aimed at the imitatio of humanity creators, as this amazing news about the habit of chopping off fingers around the world hints at.... this is fully understandable only if you known that according to old tales about "ancient astronauts", gods had only 3 fingers per hand.... so the phenomenon belongs to the same category as one of artificially elongating heads. Marrying cousins is another remnant of this cargo cult worship.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/dec/23/prehistoric-handprints-finger-missing-ritually-removed


    Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me,
    Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right,
    Christ on my left, Christ in breadth, Christ in length,
    Christ in height, Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
    Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks of me,
    Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

     

    You (or Arvo Part, still one of my favourite composers) forgot about "Thunder, Thunder" as this modern religious song (devoted to Baal Hadad, as we can infer from the ubiquitous horned bull and "thunder"), cloaked as just a pop song about aliens, monotonously stresses. Still, notice that a religious song is a song about aliens too ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKopy74weus

    Plus,the band has "Dragons" in its name!

    Replies: @LatW

  863. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC


    In your opinion, what is the best piece of public information which supports the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligence?
     
    My answer varies with time. I don't believe there is any one piece I would characterize as dependable. I am partial to professional civilian airplane pilot testimony. I don't know of any case where they witness beings but there are several where the phenomena display intentional behavior directly at the pilot.

    This one is a good example despite the wikipedia editorial process pooh pooh-ing of it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1628_incident


    Or is EVERYTHING speculation and hearsay?
     
    There is so damn much of it that you could spend twenty years of your life full time investigating and not get close to covering everything. No human has an answer to this question.

    > On a different front, do you know what Tucker was alluding to with his recent mention of the “darker aspect” of alien contact?

    On this topic Tucker is an idiot. Roko's Basilisk takes a variety of forms.

    Replies: @A123, @QCIC, @QCIC

    I am surprised the concept of Roko’s Basilisk ever had any traction. If it actually does have any credibility with AI programmers. this suggests to me that these people know they are intentionally selling out humanity for a few pieces of silver (guilty conscience).

    Tucker is a limited hangout, but I wonder what message he is sending on this point? I don’t think he would make such a cryptic statement unless there is some of his audience who knows what he means.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @QCIC

    Roko's Baselisk is useful as a shorthand for ridiculously-improbable-explanation-for-the-inexplicable. Most AI programmers consider it ridiculous. The self-labeled Rationalists are a fringe minority group.

    Anyway there's three biggies, all inexplicable:

    Where did we come from?
    Why are we here?
    Where are we going?

    There are people who take themselves seriously who write or say the simplest explanation is some alien race made us as a slave race to work the planet and mine gold. Or Charles Fort, who was really a smart guy, theorized "we are property". So you might imagine that we somehow some day get our hands on sufficient data to figure this out which makes the project impossible to continue managing and THEY just pull the plug.

    This is one story. There are a lot of them. Tucker Carlson does not know enough to know he is an ignoramus. The CIA is using him, just like they used David Grusch, just like they used Lue Elizondo, just like they used Tom Delonge. Four identically useful idiots.

    The most probable explanation is the government officers don't know anything more than you or I do and this is all nothing but a wankfest that will get even more budget dollars next year.

    Jacques Vallee's books are mighty fine but he sure doesn't draw any useful conclusions save for the offhand intermittent remarks concerning the ghastly not good faith invariably displayed by the government UFO agents.

  864. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @A123

    Did you ever reply to the comment in the other thread where the guy wanted to know how you approved of Israel slaughtering women and children in Palestine and signed off with Peace?

    Replies: @A123

    LOL… What a ridiculous Taqiyya Troll question.

    I want & encourage peace. I do not approve of Islam using Muslim women and children as human shields. However, that choice was taken in the name of the Anti-Christ Muhammad, enemy of Jesus.

    Everyone notices that you, like G_R, refuse to answer the critical question:

    How else is the IDF supposed to fight such a degenerate foe?

    Your hypocrisy and opposition to peace is discordant.

    PEACE 😇

  865. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    https://d3pc1xvrcw35tl.cloudfront.net/ln/feedImages/420x315/ANI-20230903113321_202309.jpg
    Who's the master and who's the puppet? Looks to me like Zelensky is exchanging his old "friend" for closer ties to Europe.

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC

    When this happened it seemed staged.

    I wonder if the Ukrainian government actually has enough power to publicly arrest Kolomoisky against his will?

  866. President Trump releases his 2023 Christmas message.

    “This holiday we give thanks for the many blessings God has bestowed upon us. We pray for the safety of our men and women in uniform at home and abroad, and we ask God to guide us, give us strength and watch over us in this pivotal year ahead. With His help, by this time next year, we will be well on our way to making America safer, stronger, greater and more prosperous than ever before.”



    Video Link
    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️

    • Thanks: Derer
  867. @AP
    @Mr. Hack

    His speech is indeed very stirring. His language is interesting - a little different from that of the immediate post-war Galician immigrants, but closer to it than to modern speech in Ukraine. His parents were from what is now Lviv oblast, they came to America in 1912

    I know you probably celebrate on January 7, but Merry Christmas to you and to the others here.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. Hack

    Individuals like John Hodiak and yourself are examples of diaspora Ukrainians that hold the torch high and bright with Ukraine in your hearts!

    I just came home from church services. Because our parish recently voted and accepted to change to celebrating Christmas on the 25th, it will indeed soon be Merry Christmas. Evening vespers were celebrated right after the regular mass. It does seem a bit strange for a lot of us, but it is what it is…

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    Individuals like John Hodiak
     
    Thanks for posting that clip - his accent sounds quite Western Ukrainian (maybe one can call it Lusatian, it's a bit Polish sounding in some parts). I just wish that the content of what he was saying had not been so sad.... and it's sweet how he mentions holding a little girl.

    Because our parish recently voted and accepted to change to celebrating Christmas on the 25th
     

    This is a very big deal, all the Ukrainians are more than welcome to do so. Although the January 7 celebration is also really cool, a bit more austere in its traditions. (Does this change mean you no longer have to jump into a cold pond? Jk.) :)

    I'd like to share this with you - I do apologize for her attire but her strong and graceful mezzo soprano more than makes up for it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNaEpmNqeQY

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  868. @A123
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    My encounter with aliens did not go well.

     
    https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tractor_beam.png
     

    🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @sudden death

    Somebody had it worse;)

    🎄 MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄

    • Agree: A123
  869. @Mr. Hack
    @AP

    Individuals like John Hodiak and yourself are examples of diaspora Ukrainians that hold the torch high and bright with Ukraine in your hearts!

    I just came home from church services. Because our parish recently voted and accepted to change to celebrating Christmas on the 25th, it will indeed soon be Merry Christmas. Evening vespers were celebrated right after the regular mass. It does seem a bit strange for a lot of us, but it is what it is...

    Replies: @LatW

    Individuals like John Hodiak

    Thanks for posting that clip – his accent sounds quite Western Ukrainian (maybe one can call it Lusatian, it’s a bit Polish sounding in some parts). I just wish that the content of what he was saying had not been so sad…. and it’s sweet how he mentions holding a little girl.

    Because our parish recently voted and accepted to change to celebrating Christmas on the 25th

    This is a very big deal, all the Ukrainians are more than welcome to do so. Although the January 7 celebration is also really cool, a bit more austere in its traditions. (Does this change mean you no longer have to jump into a cold pond? Jk.) 🙂

    I’d like to share this with you – I do apologize for her attire but her strong and graceful mezzo soprano more than makes up for it:

    • Thanks: S
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @LatW

    Divine...beautiful...ethereal....Thanks very much.

  870. @QCIC
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    I am surprised the concept of Roko's Basilisk ever had any traction. If it actually does have any credibility with AI programmers. this suggests to me that these people know they are intentionally selling out humanity for a few pieces of silver (guilty conscience).

    Tucker is a limited hangout, but I wonder what message he is sending on this point? I don't think he would make such a cryptic statement unless there is some of his audience who knows what he means.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Roko’s Baselisk is useful as a shorthand for ridiculously-improbable-explanation-for-the-inexplicable. Most AI programmers consider it ridiculous. The self-labeled Rationalists are a fringe minority group.

    Anyway there’s three biggies, all inexplicable:

    Where did we come from?
    Why are we here?
    Where are we going?

    There are people who take themselves seriously who write or say the simplest explanation is some alien race made us as a slave race to work the planet and mine gold. Or Charles Fort, who was really a smart guy, theorized “we are property”. So you might imagine that we somehow some day get our hands on sufficient data to figure this out which makes the project impossible to continue managing and THEY just pull the plug.

    This is one story. There are a lot of them. Tucker Carlson does not know enough to know he is an ignoramus. The CIA is using him, just like they used David Grusch, just like they used Lue Elizondo, just like they used Tom Delonge. Four identically useful idiots.

    The most probable explanation is the government officers don’t know anything more than you or I do and this is all nothing but a wankfest that will get even more budget dollars next year.

    Jacques Vallee’s books are mighty fine but he sure doesn’t draw any useful conclusions save for the offhand intermittent remarks concerning the ghastly not good faith invariably displayed by the government UFO agents.

  871. @AP
    @Beckow


    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks.
     
    The nature of such a loss would have to be the conquest of Kiev and central Ukraine. Because no government from this region would acquiesce to Putin's demands of so-called demilitarization, so-called de-Nazification, etc.

    Central Ukraine doesn’t have to be occupied – that would be self-defeating.
     
    That would be the only way of having a non-hostile state there.

    Because a conquest of central Ukraine is extremely unlikely, there will be a state hostile to Russia there.

    And if a conquest were to occur, most of the population would simply leave and settle in other countries. This would contribute to those countries becoming more anti-Russian. Imagine a million fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainians living in your Slovakia. Fico would be in trouble.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow
     
    You are too dumb to realize that Ukrainians are not Slovaks. Neither are Balts, or Poles, or many other peoples. You go with the flow, we do not.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly.
     
    He was thrown out for saying silly things publicly.

    No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying
     
    The ones from the West and Center have largely returned. The Easterners not so much, it is dangerous in their lands. You might want to be careful with STDs from those Easterners, it's the epicenter. Good luck.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    …if a conquest were to occur, most of the population would simply leave and settle in other countries. This would contribute to those countries becoming more anti-Russian. Imagine a million fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainians living in your Slovakia.

    First, I disagree that a conquest followed by an occupation has to occur – you are overestimating Ukies desire to ruin their lives in order to “be in Nato”. Like other normal people they will make the best out of it. Poles and Balts don’t seem very normal, but even they were accommodating. Latvians formed the first Bolshie militia and then in WW2 two (!) volunteer SS divisions, then back to being content under the commies for 40 years. Poland had 3 million commies – 15% of adults.

    If Ukies leave to settle in EU they will have to follow the regular immigration process. Their current status is explicitly temporary and they have no long-term residence or citizenship rights. Your fantasy of “1 million Ukies” is bulls..t. The current Ukies we have are not at all political, definitely not anti-Russian (most speak Russian to each other), and rather visibly neutral towards the war. They are from all over, but the two main regions are Subcarpathia and Kiev. We get almost no Galicians.

    You shouldn’t badmouth the honor of the Ukie girls, they are way better than you. They are actually normal, sane, and know the history of the region. You don’t.

  872. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Lmao-what an absurd charade!!!

    1. As has been proven numerous times, a worthless scumbag as yourself cannot speak Ukrainian. It's so sick and disturbing what trash like you tries to do - use your experience of writing a trillion posts on here to mimic pretending you listened to Hack's clip by writing generic nonsense based on the years this Hodiak guy was born and where (I. E this idiotic charade of "speech not like post-war galician"- which is of course instantaneous BS made based on his years of birth and nothing else)

    2. Satanist trash as yourself should in no way be associated with Christmas from a religious view, or even the 99% Jewish created, secular, in parts fun one they do in Pindostan

    3. Very pleasant that in addition to your fake Ukrainianism, there is your fake attempt to "rescue" Ukrainians by having them live in your place of residence. Just where are the ukrop refugees in your place over western Christmas? Lmao. Why wouldn't you have there, sorry "save" them from genocide you ridiculous fraud!

    Replies: @Jazman, @AP

    I am glad you are back to give this fake Ukie what he deserve

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AP
    @Jazman

    Pro-Russian but too dumb to be an actual Russian.

    You are a Serb, right?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  873. @LatW
    The Deer's Cry by Arvo Pärt.

    Lyrics from an Old Irish lorica, "St Patrick's Breastplate" (prayer of protection, 11th century).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Breastplate

    The translator in the Middle Ages mistranslated Féth fíada (magical mist or shroud of invisibility in Irish mythology, which ancient Celtic deities concealed themselves in) as "deer's cry".

    A good rendering of the prayer here:
    https://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/Poetry/StPatrick.html

    The (mis)translation of "deer's cry" is reminiscent of Psalm 42:
    As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, my God.

    From the prayer:

    I arise today, through the strength of Heaven:
    light of Sun, brilliance of Moon, splendour of Fire,
    speed of Lightning, swiftness of Wind, depth of Sea,
    stability of Earth, firmness of Rock.

    Arvo Pärt used the following fragment of the invocation in his piece:

    Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me,
    Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right,
    Christ on my left, Christ in breadth, Christ in length,
    Christ in height, Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
    Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks of me,
    Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWxZf5ayDiI

    Replies: @songbird, @Another Polish Perspective

    Did you ever see the 2017 film Pilgrimage?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage_(2017_film)

    I did not enjoy it and am not recommending it. The film was too woke for me, among other shortcomings.

    But I thought the final minute or two was interesting because, if you can disregard what is probably meant to be woke nihilism in much of the narrative, there’s maybe a hidden message – I’m thinking it wasn’t intentional but accidental, though I am not sure. (Spoiler)

    [MORE]

    Basically, at the beginning of the movie there is this sacred relic stone, and they say something like”If you replaced it with another stone, nobody would know.”

    At the end, after some amount of fighting and death, one guy throws it from a boat into an estuary and it sinks down among the other rocks and becomes indistinguishable.

    And from that, I took the message that every stone of Ireland is sacred, even below the low tide mark, though I doubt that is what they intended.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    Did you ever see the 2017 film Pilgrimage? [..] I did not enjoy it and am not recommending it. The film was too woke for me, among other shortcomings.
     
    Decided to watch it and came away with sort of mixed feelings (love the genre, medieval drama, so that part was good, as well as the visuals - scenery, horsemen, the "Quest", original languages, etc). It's not really too woke by my standards, but it is a bit biased against the Crusaders, it might be connected to the perception of the Norman invasion, it's portrayed as very brutal. Not a very deep movie, but maybe interesting for the sake of atmosphere of those times (but hard to watch due to brutality).

    Interestingly, it has the same theme as in Black Robe- it shows converts following their new Christian overlords, and being led into their demise by doing so.

    Btw, those Irish monks were there in their rock houses in South West Ireland before the Norman invasion.

    Also, shows that these colonizers are unable to proceed much without some local help. It does feature the theme of féth fíada (the magical mist) and it does reference the Tuatha Dé Danann, but it doesn't look like it gives a proper representation of it (a bit too shallow and also too "demonized", too dark, those scenes were portrayed too much as if they were filled with superstition when in fact these supernatural beings were not seen as solely dark or evil, even if there may have been taboos around their dwelling areas - that's normal and present in other cultures as well, for example, entering the sacred grove was not always allowed).


    And from that, I took the message that every stone of Ireland is sacred, even below the low tide mark, though I doubt that is what they intended.
     
    Hm, this is a cool interpretation, but, iirc, it was the "evil" Norman knight who said that - I think it was meant as a moment of doubt - as in why are we chasing this rock, when it can easily be exchanged for another. That it's just some status symbol. Maybe to show the futility of the whole quest and to highlight the fanaticism of these early Christians. Fanaticism part seemed overplayed (but who knows).

    The pagans were not portrayed in a flattering way either. The paganism was not portrayed accurately at all - I don't get why they needed to hang those crows everywhere.

    So after I watched it on YT, a few other movies popped up - I watched another one, a Dutch movie about Frisians in the 8th century (called The Legend of Redbad). OMG, it was another completely inaccurate representation of pagans and very biased against Christianization as well. But it had great visuals. But again, probably not fully accurate attire and silly regalia everywhere (inappropriate pagan symbols for that century). But at least they had some cool looking knights and ancient Germanic warriors.

    My gosh, who makes these things... I think what I noticed was that in both movies, neither religious tradition is represented in a very positive light, but the hero, who is more of an individual on his own, is the good character. For example, in Pilgrimage, the Celtic boy from the old monasteries, even though he is forced to follow a fanatical priest, in the end, finds his own agency, finds the strength in himself to act independently, to have his own moral compass. Thus the ending scene with him in the boat, that looks like those old Celtic currachs, watching over the sea: "Where to now?" A kind of a representation of freedom, finally. Maybe freedom of an individual from both traditions.

    Btw, I have been to Newgrange, it's a very tranquil place.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @songbird

  874. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    You are just feeling bad because I visit Moscow more often than you do. Cry more.
     
    I agree about Moscow. Never been there in my life and could not locate in on the map. There is no sign of direct flights opening between Kazan and Idaho. Knowing nothing about Idaho, I would take a guess that is like Montana (which I have visited), but different to a lowlife like you - I am not going to write 1000's of spamtroll posts on something or place I know nothing about.

    I can only think of Moscow in Idaho is what you are talking about , because it sure as f**k isn't Moscow in Russia for a scumbag fantasist as yourself ! Notice there are Russian places in North America, different to "Ukrainian" place names ....where there is not a single one, LMAO.

    As for the real Moscow, I was there 7 weeks ago ,idiot.

    But that brings me to a serious point. Obviously you have never been to Ukraine or Russia, but by copying Banderatard diaspora in US, you can pretend to be like them by of course never stepping in "Ukraine" to defend "your" people. LOL. The last place to expect to find these Galician diaspora would of course be anywhere near the frontline.

    Even worse is why a fantasist loser as yourself, wasting time by doing total nonsense on here, isn't doing something useful ....like taking into the US on sponsorship scheme any "Ukrainian" currently being "genocided" by Russia? LOL. "Strange" why you wouldn't do that with no physical cost to yourself or even financial?

    Millions of ukrops DESPERATE to get the green card every year before the SMO. Now since the SMO , even more are desperate to come........and now they can get into America and Canada for free and earn a life-changing amount of money in a very short time for them and their families.
    US and Canada governments giving money to people taking them into their homes.........but no sign of any in your house (well, mothers basement not house for you possibly)

    Outside of WASPs, liberals, sextourists,Jews with Soviet or Russian vendetta......the pitiful number of 200000 ukrops allowed into US and Canada could only indicate that the large majority of scumbag, CIA-smuggled Banderetard diaspora have not allowed Ukrainians to immigrate and live in their homes.

    The SMO has allowed ANY Ukrainian to come, with those with relative in US even easier - but it seems mostly American fatslug sextourists have taken advantage of this..........it appears every Instagram Ukrainian whore who is young, beautiful and single appears to have acquired an American to sponsor her into the country. It seems to be Hawaii, Oregon, New York, Florida or California every time for each of them relocated to. Normal hardworking ukrop family that always dreamed of the US.......not so much luck in benefactor for them.

    Anyone else explain why this fake doctor AP troll, faking being Ukrainian .........is NOT saving any ukrops by bringing them into his house?? LOL

    Replies: @AP, @Jazman

    He knows if he let Ukrop into his home no matter how much he help they will never appreciate that lol

    • LOL: Gerard1234
  875. @Emil Nikola Richard
    Sol Foundation Symposium report report.

    1. The report is a 3 hour video on the Through a Glass Darkly youtube channel.

    2. They present the only details I have been able to find on the entire internet of the two day meeting last month at Stanford of all the major actors in the current (since December 2017) CIA UFO disclosure project. The public was not invited. The Sol Foundation (i. e. Gary Nolan) has claimed that video of all the presentations will be made available to the public. They didn't say when and it hasn't happened yet.

    3. Not one single new item of any importance. Tyler (not his real name) in Pasulka's book American Cosmic is biotech entrepreneur Tim Taylor. This is as close to new as the information gets and I presume just about everybody already knew this.

    4. Eric Davis, author of the now canonical Davis Wilson memo (the purported leak of the century) was listed on the agenda and not mentioned in the Through a G.D. video. Did he not show? Was what he said too shocking for these two guys (who were invited attendees and want to be invited to the next party) to discuss? Does anybody give a hoot?

    5. Lue Elizondo was mentioned. He was on the program and didn't show up.

    6. David Grusch was mentioned. I forget what they said.

    7. Chris Mellon was discussed at length. The two guys are fans. I am not. His material is covered on his substack.

    https://thedebrief.org/disclosure-and-national-security-should-the-u-s-government-reveal-what-it-knows-about-uap/

    8. The only other item worth mentioning is something they didn't mention. There isn't a single scrap of reliable evidence that the government is in possession of one single scrap of reliable evidence that anybody would be interested in seeing. It all comes down to one sentence in the Davis Wilson memo. Somebody said somebody said somebody said . . . (the level of nested hearsay is not known--it could be as small as third hand and as large as a hundred) Lockheed has an intact spacecraft "not of this earth and not made by human hands" they are trying to reverse engineer.

    9. As I wrote above, Davis (the author of the Davis Wilson memo) was on the speaker agenda and nothing about Davis's presence at the symposium, or absence at the symposium, or his past, present or future being was mentioned in the Beyond a G.D. video.

    I might possibly have missed something worth mentioning. I only tried to pay attention to these idiots because I am so obsessive compulsive on the topic that I am always looking up in the sky. I have seen a lot of weird stuff but I have never seen a flying saucer or a Martian.



    the three hours of video with no new information

    https://youtu.be/tJKTIjgUJKQ

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

    It was just a 1960’s sci-fi TV show but I always appreciated the original Star Trek series treatment of the subject… 🙂

    • Replies: @songbird
    @S

    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-4_Falcon

    I imagine they would definitely be able to make people forget short term memories by then, but I suppose that wouldn't make for a good dramatic narrative.

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

  876. @LatW
    @Mr. Hack


    Individuals like John Hodiak
     
    Thanks for posting that clip - his accent sounds quite Western Ukrainian (maybe one can call it Lusatian, it's a bit Polish sounding in some parts). I just wish that the content of what he was saying had not been so sad.... and it's sweet how he mentions holding a little girl.

    Because our parish recently voted and accepted to change to celebrating Christmas on the 25th
     

    This is a very big deal, all the Ukrainians are more than welcome to do so. Although the January 7 celebration is also really cool, a bit more austere in its traditions. (Does this change mean you no longer have to jump into a cold pond? Jk.) :)

    I'd like to share this with you - I do apologize for her attire but her strong and graceful mezzo soprano more than makes up for it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNaEpmNqeQY

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Divine…beautiful…ethereal….Thanks very much.

  877. @LatW
    @Mr. XYZ

    Babies are adorable, but they like waking up every 2-3 hours. :) Thankfully, that ends after 6-8 months and they start sleeping through the night.

    Also, there are ways to trick toddlers - when a toddler throws one of their fits, do not try to appease them or calm them down (futile). Find another "object of interest" to show them - this will divert their attention to something new and exciting and they might stop screaming. They barely have any impulse control. Anyway, all this craziness ends at age 3 and a half or 4. So it won't last forever. LOL

    Replies: @songbird, @Mr. XYZ

    Do you have any babies of your own?

  878. @Anatoly Karlin
    @AP

    Out of curiosity has Dobkin been seen in uniform since 2022?

    Or is it more like Milonov who joined the Donbass campaign to great fanfare, was photographed in fatigues, and then quietly went back to politicking?

    PS. I actually just Googled that myself. LOL. https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/12/16/7381062/ When are you going to admit this is a mutual charade?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    As you know I am against the existence of all nation-states including the RF but insofar as they continue to exist my ideal vision for Russia now is to become a gay merchant republic, aspiring to the likes of Sweden or the Netherlands.

    Anatoly, I have a question in regards to this from your last post: How exactly do you plan to make Russians respect the rule-of-law and oppose corruption to the same extent that Dutch and Scandinavians do? After all, East Slavic countries, even democratic Ukraine, don’t exactly have a super-stellar reputation in this regard. I wonder what percentage of East Slavic corruption and distaste for the rule-of-law is a result of the Soviet legacy and how much of it is due to other, possibly genetic factors:

    By comparing Moldova vs. Romania and Taiwan vs. China in regards to corruption, we can see that Communism/a Communist legacy can affect a country’s corruption levels by quite a bit. My hunch is that Galicia-Volhynia are more honest than the rest of Ukraine is due to them being less corrupted by Communism, but I don’t know by just how much.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Mr. XYZ


    By comparing Moldova vs. Romania and Taiwan vs. China in regards to corruption, we can see that Communism/a Communist legacy can affect a country’s corruption levels by quite a bit. My hunch is that Galicia-Volhynia are more honest than the rest of Ukraine is due to them being less corrupted by Communism, but I don’t know by just how much.

     

    Romania and Moldova spent an almost equal amount of time under Communism, but Romania rushed westwards much more quickly relative to Moldova after the collapse of Communism.

    Taiwan and China are real examples of Communism vs. no Communism, as are North Korea and South Korea.
    , @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    That map was created and paid for by a client, for a client. It is therefore a pure hogwash. The Anglo zone is the most corrupt block - congratulation.

  879. @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin


    As you know I am against the existence of all nation-states including the RF but insofar as they continue to exist my ideal vision for Russia now is to become a gay merchant republic, aspiring to the likes of Sweden or the Netherlands.

     

    Anatoly, I have a question in regards to this from your last post: How exactly do you plan to make Russians respect the rule-of-law and oppose corruption to the same extent that Dutch and Scandinavians do? After all, East Slavic countries, even democratic Ukraine, don't exactly have a super-stellar reputation in this regard. I wonder what percentage of East Slavic corruption and distaste for the rule-of-law is a result of the Soviet legacy and how much of it is due to other, possibly genetic factors:

    https://jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/corruption-perceptions-index-2016.jpg

    By comparing Moldova vs. Romania and Taiwan vs. China in regards to corruption, we can see that Communism/a Communist legacy can affect a country's corruption levels by quite a bit. My hunch is that Galicia-Volhynia are more honest than the rest of Ukraine is due to them being less corrupted by Communism, but I don't know by just how much.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    By comparing Moldova vs. Romania and Taiwan vs. China in regards to corruption, we can see that Communism/a Communist legacy can affect a country’s corruption levels by quite a bit. My hunch is that Galicia-Volhynia are more honest than the rest of Ukraine is due to them being less corrupted by Communism, but I don’t know by just how much.

    Romania and Moldova spent an almost equal amount of time under Communism, but Romania rushed westwards much more quickly relative to Moldova after the collapse of Communism.

    Taiwan and China are real examples of Communism vs. no Communism, as are North Korea and South Korea.

  880. @Beckow
    @AP

    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don't understand what a nation means, who are the English, French, Russians, Poles, Magyars...how a "nation" is formed. And that it is much better that way.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others. Sarkozy was a Magyar gypsy with Thessalonike Jew, Holland's name speaks for itself, Macron is a total weirdo, I am not sure French would want to claim his blood.

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite, then a large group of Protestant Germans came in...then Jews, and now they are ruled by an Indian guy. Charles has almost no "English" blood and BoJo was a Turko-Danish-Celtic concoction with lots of added booze.You come across as a total moron blabbing half-digested idiocies. Your selective look at only the purity of "Russians" betrays your incurable hatred of them - all are pure in your world, but the damn Russians...riiight.

    You may need more than your anti-autism pills. But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs - pretty scary, but you will cherrypick again to medicate yourself, whatever...Merry Christmas...:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don’t understand what a nation means

    A lot of people make this mistake: do not see a difference between a state (citizens of a state constitute a nation) and a tribe. Historically, tribes predate states and disappear with the appearance of states. Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.

    Tribal state is a contradiction in terms. Any attempt to make a state tribal dooms it. Hitler trued to make Germany a tribal state. The result was inevitable, This is a normal evolutionary process: unfit are culled, the fittest survive. Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @AnonfromTN


    Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.
     
    Clearly tribes have to come together to have a state (a pre colonist Amerindian state where the current USA is for example). Hitler tried to use military conquest to take back what had been taken from Germany after WW1 and expand East to make Germany an superpower ethno-empire, with the subjugated people slowly disappearing as the Germans multiplied . He anticipated a showdown with America after his time, and the ultimate destiny of German world domination to lie in an Iron Sky style colonisation of space.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.
     
    That is like saying children must do as their parents tell them to. Very often they do not . When Yeltsin abolished the USSR as part of a personal power grab, to his surprise Ukraine instantly became independent.

    I think at bottom the Soviet Union was a way for various ethic minorities to tame Russian nationalism, and those minorities were very prominent in the founding of the state. The Soviet leadership became more ethnic majority and Russian orientated as less willing to make sacrifices such as subsidise energy prices for the non Russians as time as went on, which made East Europe less obedient. When he tried to reform the economy, Gorby did not take those things into account. For Ukraine, being in the RusFed without anything like Soviet ideology to restrain leaders such as Yeltsin with his entirely ethnic Russian power base and political orientation did not appeal at all.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.
     
    Original peaceful idealism leads to military defeat and iconoclasm. I think those two states did not come into being in a normal way and had unrealistic expectations. Usually there is a longer process, but with Ukraine and Israel it was the case that the states were founded and then the political- cultural developments happened in an unfavorable environment. After the seventies UN resolution that Zionism was a form of Racism, Israel imported Ethiopians to ward off that accusation. Troops in the best units of the Israeli army are disproportionately non-Ashkenazim and the growing ultra Orthodox community do not serve at all. Working in the field under the burning sun is increasingly done by non Jewish workers. The original vision of Zionism was quite different so in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt. Ukraine is more tribal in every way because the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mikhail

    , @Barbarossa
    @AnonfromTN

    I think it can be a matter of degree and not a hard demarcation between tribalism and nationalism. Pure tribalism only works with relatively small homogeneous groups but has trouble scaling up. A good example would be Scottish clans who were hobbled by their infighting in resisting the English.

    On the other extreme is our own US of A where there are basically no cultural, religious, or racial commonalities and therefore basically no organic societal bonds. This inevitably unravels if times get worse as is already happening and a strong centralized state is absolutely necessary to maintain order owing to the lack of common culture and values.

    I think ideally there should be a fairly high degree of tribalism's shared values, at least if one wants stability over the long term. As I'm wont to say, Levi's and Coca-Cola are thin stuff to create a civilization on the backs of.

    Racialists get it wrong to think that racial demarcations are the primary criteria. It's a fine building block as far as it goes but not nearly as important as a common culture, by which I mean values, societal priorities and ethics. One of the rotten realities of today is that most of us have no way of knowing by what rules our neighbors are playing the game of life which leads to very low trust in society.

  881. @S
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    It was just a 1960's sci-fi TV show but I always appreciated the original Star Trek series treatment of the subject... :-)

    https://youtu.be/57POF6c1pjc?si=3XwkTqf7DaVeFaBg

    https://youtu.be/fyPMtpE7kAE?si=PFC2eHDok6ouSnkw

    Replies: @songbird

    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-4_Falcon

    I imagine they would definitely be able to make people forget short term memories by then, but I suppose that wouldn’t make for a good dramatic narrative.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    The widely used drug Midazolam patented in 1974 gives people amnesia (they cannot create memories while under the influence).

    This video reportedly shows people standing directly underneath one of these small nukes detonated 10,000 feet above them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAHHr0HsBgI

    Back in the day, nuclear warheads were developed for many tactical applications. Most of these were dismantled or mothballed after the cold war as part of the general arms reduction process. After the US dropped out of nuclear arms control treaties and expanded NATO, Russia responded by developing and deploying nuclear-powered doomsday torpedos as well as a nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed cruise missile. Great job Neocons.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @S
    @songbird


    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.
     
    Post WWII they went overboard with the nuclear stuff. I seem to recall they even came up with a nuclear powered airplane design. The air to air nuclear missiles were a part of that I suppose, until someone realized it was overkill to use a nuclear bomb to take out a single airplane.

    [Kind of remindful of the postwar 'better living through chemistry' craze. Then it occurred to folks that natural food was probably better for a person than artificial 'food' constructed wholly out of chemicals.]

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

  882. @songbird
    @S

    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-4_Falcon

    I imagine they would definitely be able to make people forget short term memories by then, but I suppose that wouldn't make for a good dramatic narrative.

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

    The widely used drug Midazolam patented in 1974 gives people amnesia (they cannot create memories while under the influence).

    This video reportedly shows people standing directly underneath one of these small nukes detonated 10,000 feet above them.

    [MORE]

    Back in the day, nuclear warheads were developed for many tactical applications. Most of these were dismantled or mothballed after the cold war as part of the general arms reduction process. After the US dropped out of nuclear arms control treaties and expanded NATO, Russia responded by developing and deploying nuclear-powered doomsday torpedos as well as a nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed cruise missile. Great job Neocons.

    • Thanks: songbird
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @QCIC

    Probably should have written "reduced ability to create new memories while under the influence of the drug".

  883. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don’t understand what a nation means
     
    A lot of people make this mistake: do not see a difference between a state (citizens of a state constitute a nation) and a tribe. Historically, tribes predate states and disappear with the appearance of states. Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.

    Tribal state is a contradiction in terms. Any attempt to make a state tribal dooms it. Hitler trued to make Germany a tribal state. The result was inevitable, This is a normal evolutionary process: unfit are culled, the fittest survive. Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.

    Replies: @Sean, @Barbarossa

    Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.

    Clearly tribes have to come together to have a state (a pre colonist Amerindian state where the current USA is for example). Hitler tried to use military conquest to take back what had been taken from Germany after WW1 and expand East to make Germany an superpower ethno-empire, with the subjugated people slowly disappearing as the Germans multiplied . He anticipated a showdown with America after his time, and the ultimate destiny of German world domination to lie in an Iron Sky style colonisation of space.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.

    That is like saying children must do as their parents tell them to. Very often they do not . When Yeltsin abolished the USSR as part of a personal power grab, to his surprise Ukraine instantly became independent.

    I think at bottom the Soviet Union was a way for various ethic minorities to tame Russian nationalism, and those minorities were very prominent in the founding of the state. The Soviet leadership became more ethnic majority and Russian orientated as less willing to make sacrifices such as subsidise energy prices for the non Russians as time as went on, which made East Europe less obedient. When he tried to reform the economy, Gorby did not take those things into account. For Ukraine, being in the RusFed without anything like Soviet ideology to restrain leaders such as Yeltsin with his entirely ethnic Russian power base and political orientation did not appeal at all.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.

    Original peaceful idealism leads to military defeat and iconoclasm. I think those two states did not come into being in a normal way and had unrealistic expectations. Usually there is a longer process, but with Ukraine and Israel it was the case that the states were founded and then the political- cultural developments happened in an unfavorable environment. After the seventies UN resolution that Zionism was a form of Racism, Israel imported Ethiopians to ward off that accusation. Troops in the best units of the Israeli army are disproportionately non-Ashkenazim and the growing ultra Orthodox community do not serve at all. Working in the field under the burning sun is increasingly done by non Jewish workers. The original vision of Zionism was quite different so in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt. Ukraine is more tribal in every way because the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.

    • Disagree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.
     
    The ones that are gone certainly will never come back, but there are many more Russian-speaking regions that are still under Kiev regime control. In more than half of the remaining rump Ukraine people in the cities, educated and uneducated, speak Russian (except for a few Western-most regions, Ukrainian is the native language of village hillbillies). I don’t think the RF will take them all, as that would entail massive outlays for reconstruction that RF population won’t accept. Putin is very sensitive to the wishes of the populace, so that huge mistake of the USSR won’t be repeated. After Ukraine capitulation the RF is more likely to reformat whatever it wishes to allow to remain Ukraine and leave it be under its watchful eye.

    in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt
     
    Israel is likely to crash and burn is a more literal way. Unfortunately, with rivers of spilled blood. Current Israel is busily digging its own grave even as we speak. Despite the hopes of Israeli elites, neither the empire, nor bought and paid for Arab elites will be able to save it for long.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Sean, @Mr. Hack

    , @Mikhail
    @Sean


    I think at bottom the Soviet Union was a way for various ethic minorities to tame Russian nationalism, and those minorities were very prominent in the founding of the state. The Soviet leadership became more ethnic majority and Russian orientated as less willing to make sacrifices such as subsidise energy prices for the non Russians as time as went on, which made East Europe less obedient.
     
    Given the time period, "Russian nationalism" was relatively tame. Russians being the most numerous in the USSR understandably led to many Russians in high positions. Meantime, it wasn't as if others weren't in such spots.

    EU now more reflects a large entity with some glaring management problems.
  884. @QCIC
    @songbird

    The widely used drug Midazolam patented in 1974 gives people amnesia (they cannot create memories while under the influence).

    This video reportedly shows people standing directly underneath one of these small nukes detonated 10,000 feet above them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAHHr0HsBgI

    Back in the day, nuclear warheads were developed for many tactical applications. Most of these were dismantled or mothballed after the cold war as part of the general arms reduction process. After the US dropped out of nuclear arms control treaties and expanded NATO, Russia responded by developing and deploying nuclear-powered doomsday torpedos as well as a nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed cruise missile. Great job Neocons.

    Replies: @QCIC

    Probably should have written “reduced ability to create new memories while under the influence of the drug”.

  885. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN


    Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.
     
    Clearly tribes have to come together to have a state (a pre colonist Amerindian state where the current USA is for example). Hitler tried to use military conquest to take back what had been taken from Germany after WW1 and expand East to make Germany an superpower ethno-empire, with the subjugated people slowly disappearing as the Germans multiplied . He anticipated a showdown with America after his time, and the ultimate destiny of German world domination to lie in an Iron Sky style colonisation of space.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.
     
    That is like saying children must do as their parents tell them to. Very often they do not . When Yeltsin abolished the USSR as part of a personal power grab, to his surprise Ukraine instantly became independent.

    I think at bottom the Soviet Union was a way for various ethic minorities to tame Russian nationalism, and those minorities were very prominent in the founding of the state. The Soviet leadership became more ethnic majority and Russian orientated as less willing to make sacrifices such as subsidise energy prices for the non Russians as time as went on, which made East Europe less obedient. When he tried to reform the economy, Gorby did not take those things into account. For Ukraine, being in the RusFed without anything like Soviet ideology to restrain leaders such as Yeltsin with his entirely ethnic Russian power base and political orientation did not appeal at all.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.
     
    Original peaceful idealism leads to military defeat and iconoclasm. I think those two states did not come into being in a normal way and had unrealistic expectations. Usually there is a longer process, but with Ukraine and Israel it was the case that the states were founded and then the political- cultural developments happened in an unfavorable environment. After the seventies UN resolution that Zionism was a form of Racism, Israel imported Ethiopians to ward off that accusation. Troops in the best units of the Israeli army are disproportionately non-Ashkenazim and the growing ultra Orthodox community do not serve at all. Working in the field under the burning sun is increasingly done by non Jewish workers. The original vision of Zionism was quite different so in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt. Ukraine is more tribal in every way because the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mikhail

    the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.

    The ones that are gone certainly will never come back, but there are many more Russian-speaking regions that are still under Kiev regime control. In more than half of the remaining rump Ukraine people in the cities, educated and uneducated, speak Russian (except for a few Western-most regions, Ukrainian is the native language of village hillbillies). I don’t think the RF will take them all, as that would entail massive outlays for reconstruction that RF population won’t accept. Putin is very sensitive to the wishes of the populace, so that huge mistake of the USSR won’t be repeated. After Ukraine capitulation the RF is more likely to reformat whatever it wishes to allow to remain Ukraine and leave it be under its watchful eye.

    in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt

    Israel is likely to crash and burn is a more literal way. Unfortunately, with rivers of spilled blood. Current Israel is busily digging its own grave even as we speak. Despite the hopes of Israeli elites, neither the empire, nor bought and paid for Arab elites will be able to save it for long.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN

    Gessen likening the Gaza siege to the Warsaw Uprising and following up about it on Amanpour's show is a sign.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    Going by the undersized army he first went into Ukraine with, Putin seems to banked on Kiev asking for terms once the invasion reached the capital rather than fight it out. Putin is desperate to end the war on terms he stipulates. Putin withdrawing without what he could present as a victory would be tantamount to admitting the war was a huge mistake in the first place and loosen his grip on power.

    .
    Too late for Putin to compromise, he must go on until the bitter end to (sort of) win or lose it all. The reformatting of Russian speaking Ukrainian cities leaves then like Mariinka, in which almost every building has been demolished transforming what was a city of 100,000 into a 'hellscape'. I don't see this war continuing as in anyone's interests but neither side is willing to accept they cannot win through in the end.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @Mr. Hack
    @AnonfromTN


    Putin is very sensitive to the wishes of the populace, so that huge mistake of the USSR won’t be repeated.
     
    Not just sensitive , but "Very sensitive" you say? How do you know this? Outside of few carefully staged interaction's, all staged for positive effect, doe he conduct any poles? Did he ask these grieving mothers at the gravesides of their sons who fell fighting in Ukraine, what they think of the war there?

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/22/article-2610606-1D44E8BD00000578-168_634x423.jpg

    https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/267907/getty-s-454291020.jpg?w=1280&h=853&f=5ca9f72fb2cd4cf0b27ade106af3568e
    The Russian Mothers Waiting for News of Their Missing Soldier Sons

  886. @LatW
    The Deer's Cry by Arvo Pärt.

    Lyrics from an Old Irish lorica, "St Patrick's Breastplate" (prayer of protection, 11th century).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Breastplate

    The translator in the Middle Ages mistranslated Féth fíada (magical mist or shroud of invisibility in Irish mythology, which ancient Celtic deities concealed themselves in) as "deer's cry".

    A good rendering of the prayer here:
    https://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/Poetry/StPatrick.html

    The (mis)translation of "deer's cry" is reminiscent of Psalm 42:
    As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, my God.

    From the prayer:

    I arise today, through the strength of Heaven:
    light of Sun, brilliance of Moon, splendour of Fire,
    speed of Lightning, swiftness of Wind, depth of Sea,
    stability of Earth, firmness of Rock.

    Arvo Pärt used the following fragment of the invocation in his piece:

    Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me,
    Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right,
    Christ on my left, Christ in breadth, Christ in length,
    Christ in height, Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
    Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks of me,
    Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWxZf5ayDiI

    Replies: @songbird, @Another Polish Perspective

    “Magical midst” is nowadays known simply as clouds, where gods, today known as UFO/UAP, still reside from time to time – notice very geometrical shapes of clouds from time to time.

    Unfortunately, early cult of gods was actually cargo cult leading to self-mutilation aimed at the imitatio of humanity creators, as this amazing news about the habit of chopping off fingers around the world hints at…. this is fully understandable only if you known that according to old tales about “ancient astronauts”, gods had only 3 fingers per hand…. so the phenomenon belongs to the same category as one of artificially elongating heads. Marrying cousins is another remnant of this cargo cult worship.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/dec/23/prehistoric-handprints-finger-missing-ritually-removed

    Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me,
    Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right,
    Christ on my left, Christ in breadth, Christ in length,
    Christ in height, Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
    Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks of me,
    Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

    You (or Arvo Part, still one of my favourite composers) forgot about “Thunder, Thunder” as this modern religious song (devoted to Baal Hadad, as we can infer from the ubiquitous horned bull and “thunder”), cloaked as just a pop song about aliens, monotonously stresses. Still, notice that a religious song is a song about aliens too 😉

    Plus,the band has “Dragons” in its name!

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Another Polish Perspective


    this is fully understandable only if you known that according to old tales about “ancient astronauts”, gods had only 3 fingers per hand….
     
    That's in the paleo times, I've never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.

    You (or Arvo Part, still one of my favourite composers) forgot about “Thunder, Thunder” as this modern religious song (devoted to Baal Hadad, as we can infer from the ubiquitous horned bull and “thunder”)
     

    That's just post-modern trash. Our Thunder is not the same as Baal (different tradition), although they are related to storms. Our Thunder is not chthonic. And of course we didn't forget (there are a ton of songs for Thunder). Doesn't mean we don't have plenty of Christians. Pluralism is not always bad, if one can learn how to live with it.

    And, btw, Arvo Pärt has been doing religious (Christian) music since the 1970s, probably before you were even born.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  887. @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW

    "Magical midst" is nowadays known simply as clouds, where gods, today known as UFO/UAP, still reside from time to time - notice very geometrical shapes of clouds from time to time.

    Unfortunately, early cult of gods was actually cargo cult leading to self-mutilation aimed at the imitatio of humanity creators, as this amazing news about the habit of chopping off fingers around the world hints at.... this is fully understandable only if you known that according to old tales about "ancient astronauts", gods had only 3 fingers per hand.... so the phenomenon belongs to the same category as one of artificially elongating heads. Marrying cousins is another remnant of this cargo cult worship.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/dec/23/prehistoric-handprints-finger-missing-ritually-removed


    Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ in me,
    Christ beneath me, Christ above me, Christ on my right,
    Christ on my left, Christ in breadth, Christ in length,
    Christ in height, Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
    Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks of me,
    Christ in every eye that sees me, Christ in every ear that hears me.

     

    You (or Arvo Part, still one of my favourite composers) forgot about "Thunder, Thunder" as this modern religious song (devoted to Baal Hadad, as we can infer from the ubiquitous horned bull and "thunder"), cloaked as just a pop song about aliens, monotonously stresses. Still, notice that a religious song is a song about aliens too ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKopy74weus

    Plus,the band has "Dragons" in its name!

    Replies: @LatW

    this is fully understandable only if you known that according to old tales about “ancient astronauts”, gods had only 3 fingers per hand….

    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.

    You (or Arvo Part, still one of my favourite composers) forgot about “Thunder, Thunder” as this modern religious song (devoted to Baal Hadad, as we can infer from the ubiquitous horned bull and “thunder”)

    That’s just post-modern trash. Our Thunder is not the same as Baal (different tradition), although they are related to storms. Our Thunder is not chthonic. And of course we didn’t forget (there are a ton of songs for Thunder). Doesn’t mean we don’t have plenty of Christians. Pluralism is not always bad, if one can learn how to live with it.

    And, btw, Arvo Pärt has been doing religious (Christian) music since the 1970s, probably before you were even born.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW


    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.
     
    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.


    "Four sites in Africa, three in Australia, nine in North America, five in south Asia and one in south-east Asia contain evidence of finger amputation." (from the quoted article")

    Likewise, there is tendency for other irrational deformations to appear around the world, deformations which sometimes co-exist. For example, the customs of cranial deformation and cousin marriage co-existed in ancient Egypt, Inca empire, ancient cultures of Fergana valley. Although cranial deformation ceased, cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.

    As for Arvo Part - I have even met him once in Warsaw during "Warsaw Autumn" festival, quite like his tintinabulli style, however, I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans....On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword), the accommodation conflict around Jesuits in China, as well as the general tendency of heresies and schism to become more strict than mainstream. In fact, for Christianity to retain its specific message, it would pay off to disavow any pagan custom -this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
    Overall, I find the idea of philosophia perennis really plausible. BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol. And you know, there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran ;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @S, @Barbarossa

  888. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.
     
    The ones that are gone certainly will never come back, but there are many more Russian-speaking regions that are still under Kiev regime control. In more than half of the remaining rump Ukraine people in the cities, educated and uneducated, speak Russian (except for a few Western-most regions, Ukrainian is the native language of village hillbillies). I don’t think the RF will take them all, as that would entail massive outlays for reconstruction that RF population won’t accept. Putin is very sensitive to the wishes of the populace, so that huge mistake of the USSR won’t be repeated. After Ukraine capitulation the RF is more likely to reformat whatever it wishes to allow to remain Ukraine and leave it be under its watchful eye.

    in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt
     
    Israel is likely to crash and burn is a more literal way. Unfortunately, with rivers of spilled blood. Current Israel is busily digging its own grave even as we speak. Despite the hopes of Israeli elites, neither the empire, nor bought and paid for Arab elites will be able to save it for long.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Sean, @Mr. Hack

    Gessen likening the Gaza siege to the Warsaw Uprising and following up about it on Amanpour’s show is a sign.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Gessen likening the Gaza siege to the Warsaw Uprising and following up about it on Amanpour’s show is a sign.
     
    Wow! I never expected Masha Gessen creature to make any sense. This is beyond belief.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  889. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN


    Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.
     
    Clearly tribes have to come together to have a state (a pre colonist Amerindian state where the current USA is for example). Hitler tried to use military conquest to take back what had been taken from Germany after WW1 and expand East to make Germany an superpower ethno-empire, with the subjugated people slowly disappearing as the Germans multiplied . He anticipated a showdown with America after his time, and the ultimate destiny of German world domination to lie in an Iron Sky style colonisation of space.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.
     
    That is like saying children must do as their parents tell them to. Very often they do not . When Yeltsin abolished the USSR as part of a personal power grab, to his surprise Ukraine instantly became independent.

    I think at bottom the Soviet Union was a way for various ethic minorities to tame Russian nationalism, and those minorities were very prominent in the founding of the state. The Soviet leadership became more ethnic majority and Russian orientated as less willing to make sacrifices such as subsidise energy prices for the non Russians as time as went on, which made East Europe less obedient. When he tried to reform the economy, Gorby did not take those things into account. For Ukraine, being in the RusFed without anything like Soviet ideology to restrain leaders such as Yeltsin with his entirely ethnic Russian power base and political orientation did not appeal at all.

    Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.
     
    Original peaceful idealism leads to military defeat and iconoclasm. I think those two states did not come into being in a normal way and had unrealistic expectations. Usually there is a longer process, but with Ukraine and Israel it was the case that the states were founded and then the political- cultural developments happened in an unfavorable environment. After the seventies UN resolution that Zionism was a form of Racism, Israel imported Ethiopians to ward off that accusation. Troops in the best units of the Israeli army are disproportionately non-Ashkenazim and the growing ultra Orthodox community do not serve at all. Working in the field under the burning sun is increasingly done by non Jewish workers. The original vision of Zionism was quite different so in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt. Ukraine is more tribal in every way because the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mikhail

    I think at bottom the Soviet Union was a way for various ethic minorities to tame Russian nationalism, and those minorities were very prominent in the founding of the state. The Soviet leadership became more ethnic majority and Russian orientated as less willing to make sacrifices such as subsidise energy prices for the non Russians as time as went on, which made East Europe less obedient.

    Given the time period, “Russian nationalism” was relatively tame. Russians being the most numerous in the USSR understandably led to many Russians in high positions. Meantime, it wasn’t as if others weren’t in such spots.

    EU now more reflects a large entity with some glaring management problems.

  890. @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN

    Gessen likening the Gaza siege to the Warsaw Uprising and following up about it on Amanpour's show is a sign.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    Gessen likening the Gaza siege to the Warsaw Uprising and following up about it on Amanpour’s show is a sign.

    Wow! I never expected Masha Gessen creature to make any sense. This is beyond belief.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @AnonfromTN

    Here it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU6kP9UqhGI

    Far more sense than this slop from Fiona Hill:

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/12/21/exp-amanpour-fiona-hill-intw-122101pseg2-cnni-world.cnn

    Hill absurdly speaks of a proxy war against the US, when it's neocon/neolib foreign policy influenced America which is fighting a proxy war against Russia on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. Related:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/12122023-ukraines-future-oped/

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/22102023-answering-biden-on-russia-ukraine-and-israel-palestine-oped/

    On Hill's bringing up the issue of a diminished US foreign policy influence, neolib Zbigniew Brzezinski said that the US' global influence will see a decline in the coming years, while nevertheless remaining a world power (Brzezinski is wrong in foreseeing a weakened Russia, crawling to the West out of desperation.) Foolhardy advocacy like the parasitic proxy war against Russia serves to further enhance an American decline on the world stage. After the Soviet demise, Russia very much wanted to cooperate with the collective West on a reasoned basis.

  891. @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234


    There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be “Ukrainian”.Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.
     
    I'm beginning to believe AP's assessments of your opinions here. Who's really the "cretin" here?:

    https://youtu.be/Njch2eqXXz4

    John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US and yet was a very patriotic supporter of Ukraine. His stirring speech starts at 10:07 (in Ukrainian), however, the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.

    Replies: @AP, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    I wonder if this was funded by the CIA?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @QCIC


    I wonder if this was funded by the CIA?
     
    I’d put it “CIA, MI6, or some other terrorist organization”.
    , @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    What in the world would make you think that?

    Replies: @QCIC

  892. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I wonder if this was funded by the CIA?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

    I wonder if this was funded by the CIA?

    I’d put it “CIA, MI6, or some other terrorist organization”.

  893. @LatW
    @Another Polish Perspective


    this is fully understandable only if you known that according to old tales about “ancient astronauts”, gods had only 3 fingers per hand….
     
    That's in the paleo times, I've never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.

    You (or Arvo Part, still one of my favourite composers) forgot about “Thunder, Thunder” as this modern religious song (devoted to Baal Hadad, as we can infer from the ubiquitous horned bull and “thunder”)
     

    That's just post-modern trash. Our Thunder is not the same as Baal (different tradition), although they are related to storms. Our Thunder is not chthonic. And of course we didn't forget (there are a ton of songs for Thunder). Doesn't mean we don't have plenty of Christians. Pluralism is not always bad, if one can learn how to live with it.

    And, btw, Arvo Pärt has been doing religious (Christian) music since the 1970s, probably before you were even born.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.

    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.

    “Four sites in Africa, three in Australia, nine in North America, five in south Asia and one in south-east Asia contain evidence of finger amputation.” (from the quoted article”)

    Likewise, there is tendency for other irrational deformations to appear around the world, deformations which sometimes co-exist. For example, the customs of cranial deformation and cousin marriage co-existed in ancient Egypt, Inca empire, ancient cultures of Fergana valley. Although cranial deformation ceased, cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.

    As for Arvo Part – I have even met him once in Warsaw during “Warsaw Autumn” festival, quite like his tintinabulli style, however, I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans….On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword), the accommodation conflict around Jesuits in China, as well as the general tendency of heresies and schism to become more strict than mainstream. In fact, for Christianity to retain its specific message, it would pay off to disavow any pagan custom -this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
    Overall, I find the idea of philosophia perennis really plausible. BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol. And you know, there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran 😉

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran
     
    I think that attempts to separate satanic from divine in the Bible, Quran, or any other religious book are misguided. The Bible (Old Testament, as well as the whole New Testament, canonical and apocryphal) is a collection of interesting historic documents, however much they were distorted to serve powers that be in different periods. If you look at it the rational way, the question of divine vs satanic does not arise.

    this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
     
    In the Old Testament Jewish god never said that the other gods do not exist, he only claimed that he is more powerful than the competition. The claim that he is the only true god came later, for purely economic and political reasons: Christian church wanted absolute power and monopoly on robbing the gullible.

    It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is)
     
    The reason for cousin marriage is purely economical: to keep the wealth in the family. That reason was valid in all societies where private property existed. No need to explain it by invoking space aliens. For similar economical/political reasons in ancient Egypt pharaohs married their own sisters. This is biologically even less healthy than cousin marriage.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    , @LatW
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Talking specifically about fingers
     
    Well, you're talking about ancient cultures that, while interesting, are not really relevant to European paganism (although the roots may go deep). Which, by the way, wasn't always benign, you're right about that - but we need to distinguish the actual beliefs and customs (customs usually have to do more with social mores and organizing society). As to missing fingers, has it ever occurred to you that those might have been ancient carpenters of some sort? There are actually guys who make expensive cabinets who are missing parts of their fingers. I mean... totally "ouch" but makes me kind of admire them a bit. :)

    So you see, there are admirable creatures already "among us", we don't need aliens. :)


    As for Arvo Part – I have even met him once in Warsaw during “Warsaw Autumn” festival
     
    Wonderful, wow! Warsaw Autumn sounds interesting, Appears to be very "experimental" - which is, of course, highly entertaining. :)

    I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
     
    Well, it is a deeply syncretic poem, and the verse he used as the lyrics for his piece - is also quite syncretic, in fact, reminds me of some ancient Baltic poems as well, they don't even know for sure if the poem was written by St Patrick, I'm sure this poem would be considered "heretical" by strict Catholics, but it does come from Ireland. :) Sorry, it just seemed beautiful and somewhat fitting. To dress this poem in minimalist style of music maybe accentuates the direct message in that verse, however, a pagan protection poem would most likely sound a bit more intense (more as an incantation, or recitation) and would not be as ethereal sounding with choral voices.

    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans….On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword)
     
    Both were present - both fire and sword, and some syncretism, accommodation. The conquered populations were quite large, you cannot police everyone. Plus, in the beginning the Mass was only 9n Latin. Only later the native languages came. And the old faith lives on.

    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
     
    There will always be conflict between the two (and I personally have no issue with it - I'm fine with living separately, but please from the beginning then, before they take our men and women, the only issue I see is that Christianity is under attack right now, so it makes sense to protect it for cultural reasons, because you are essentially preserving the European heritage, even if it contains the seed of its demise - but we live in very extraordinary circumstances now where this may be needed).

    If Christianity has become "crypto-pagan" - as you choose to call it - this is not because of some exploration or introduction of paganism - it's mostly because it had to accommodate to secularism and because of its own internal contradictions (or the contradictions with the modern world). I have sympathy for that actually, they simply do not want to lose people. But they will lose themselves. In this context nativist Christianity may not be that bad where you focus on how your Christian ancestors cultivated it just a hundred or so years ago (especially considering what the Pope just did - how is it fair to the believers?).

    So I wouldn't use "crypto-pagan", maybe a better term would be "altered to accommodate the needs of moderns". Sorry, probably shouldn't write those kinds of things on this day (and it's not even all that bad in all cases). Never allow gays to rule you and never allow gays to hold important religious posts.

    BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol.
     

    Absolutely, especially Celtic and North European (see Cernunnos). But stag is used in secular poetry and literature a lot as well to mystify, because it is a mystical, slightly elusive creature and beautiful. A deer in the mist...

    Replies: @Coconuts

    , @S
    @Another Polish Perspective



    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.
     
    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.
     
    There was an old 1967-68 US television series called The Invaders. One of the ways you could tell someone was an invading alien, despite appearing otherwise entirely human, was 'a deformed fourth finger'. I'm guessing in UFO lore the idea, or something like that, may go back some ways.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invaders

    They [the aliens] appear human except for a few telltale characteristics (they lack a pulse, the ability to bleed, or show emotion, and many have a deformed fourth finger).
     
    https://youtu.be/HEUdsXmCE7g?si=FX-L_6XUBy8VOFAz

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Barbarossa
    @Another Polish Perspective


    cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.
     
    I'll second AnonfromTN's point on cousin marriage. Variants have been practiced in fairly recent history to keep wealth and power consolidated. This makes sense since closer inbreeding has noticeable downsides quickly, hence the mostly universal taboos against it.

    I'm curious how you would even find out about the marriage customs of Nibiru, assuming the existence of such a place?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Another Polish Perspective

  894. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.
     
    The ones that are gone certainly will never come back, but there are many more Russian-speaking regions that are still under Kiev regime control. In more than half of the remaining rump Ukraine people in the cities, educated and uneducated, speak Russian (except for a few Western-most regions, Ukrainian is the native language of village hillbillies). I don’t think the RF will take them all, as that would entail massive outlays for reconstruction that RF population won’t accept. Putin is very sensitive to the wishes of the populace, so that huge mistake of the USSR won’t be repeated. After Ukraine capitulation the RF is more likely to reformat whatever it wishes to allow to remain Ukraine and leave it be under its watchful eye.

    in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt
     
    Israel is likely to crash and burn is a more literal way. Unfortunately, with rivers of spilled blood. Current Israel is busily digging its own grave even as we speak. Despite the hopes of Israeli elites, neither the empire, nor bought and paid for Arab elites will be able to save it for long.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Sean, @Mr. Hack

    Going by the undersized army he first went into Ukraine with, Putin seems to banked on Kiev asking for terms once the invasion reached the capital rather than fight it out. Putin is desperate to end the war on terms he stipulates. Putin withdrawing without what he could present as a victory would be tantamount to admitting the war was a huge mistake in the first place and loosen his grip on power.

    .
    Too late for Putin to compromise, he must go on until the bitter end to (sort of) win or lose it all. The reformatting of Russian speaking Ukrainian cities leaves then like Mariinka, in which almost every building has been demolished transforming what was a city of 100,000 into a ‘hellscape’. I don’t see this war continuing as in anyone’s interests but neither side is willing to accept they cannot win through in the end.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    The reformatting of Russian speaking Ukrainian cities leaves then like Mariinka, in which almost every building has been demolished transforming what was a city of 100,000 into a ‘hellscape’.
     
    Any unbiased observer had noticed by now that while Russian side works hard to minimize its own casualties, Russia is also trying to minimize the damage and casualties in Ukraine. Militarily it could have done a lot more destruction (e.g., US-style scorched earth – Raqqa is a good example), but chose not to. The reformatting will be done after capitulation of current Kiev regime. Russian troops won’t storm any big cities.

    he must go on until the bitter end
     
    The end will be bitter for the Kiev regime and its Western masters. For the RF it will be bitter-sweet: a victory paid for by sacrifices, like the previous war with Nazis. German Nazis were a lot more capable and not corrupt, so sacrifices were much greater, but the war still ended in Berlin, not in Moscow.

    Replies: @AP, @Sean

  895. @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW


    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.
     
    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.


    "Four sites in Africa, three in Australia, nine in North America, five in south Asia and one in south-east Asia contain evidence of finger amputation." (from the quoted article")

    Likewise, there is tendency for other irrational deformations to appear around the world, deformations which sometimes co-exist. For example, the customs of cranial deformation and cousin marriage co-existed in ancient Egypt, Inca empire, ancient cultures of Fergana valley. Although cranial deformation ceased, cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.

    As for Arvo Part - I have even met him once in Warsaw during "Warsaw Autumn" festival, quite like his tintinabulli style, however, I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans....On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword), the accommodation conflict around Jesuits in China, as well as the general tendency of heresies and schism to become more strict than mainstream. In fact, for Christianity to retain its specific message, it would pay off to disavow any pagan custom -this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
    Overall, I find the idea of philosophia perennis really plausible. BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol. And you know, there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran ;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @S, @Barbarossa

    there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran

    I think that attempts to separate satanic from divine in the Bible, Quran, or any other religious book are misguided. The Bible (Old Testament, as well as the whole New Testament, canonical and apocryphal) is a collection of interesting historic documents, however much they were distorted to serve powers that be in different periods. If you look at it the rational way, the question of divine vs satanic does not arise.

    this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.

    In the Old Testament Jewish god never said that the other gods do not exist, he only claimed that he is more powerful than the competition. The claim that he is the only true god came later, for purely economic and political reasons: Christian church wanted absolute power and monopoly on robbing the gullible.

    It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is)

    The reason for cousin marriage is purely economical: to keep the wealth in the family. That reason was valid in all societies where private property existed. No need to explain it by invoking space aliens. For similar economical/political reasons in ancient Egypt pharaohs married their own sisters. This is biologically even less healthy than cousin marriage.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    The reason for cousin marriage is purely economical: to keep the wealth in the family
     
    .

    I don't think it is true, since then it would spread everywhere, but it does persist mostly in cultures where it already did exist - and that regardless of their economic prosperity. In fact, it is most popular among the poor. Any kind of interests in preserving wealth must be conditioned on the stability of this wealth, which is not true since let's say ancient Egypt was conquered multiple times, and there is no correlation between inbreeding coefficient and wealth too.

    In fact, cousin marriage is quite popular among Fergana Valley peoples, people who were living in Soviet Union for a long time - I would think that cousin marriage or any substantial dowry would be banned then.

    Cousin marriage conserves chromosome X, which conserves some recessive traits but otherwise does not have any recognisable benefits outweighing its downsides. It is more like meme of conservation demanding replication etc. It could be very well implanted by some alien civilization/gods, since relevant cultures did not have an appropriate genetic knowledge. Its persistence has a character of religious practice, not economic necessity/benefit - otherwise every family practicing cousin marriage would live in a rich museum. In fact, cousin marriages have detrimental effect for family wealth in case if that family is not rich already, since it enforces wealth deconcentration as the practice puts stress on having large amount of children in order to provide marriage partners: if my brother has 5 sons, I must have 5 daughters etc.


    In the Old Testament Jewish god never said that the other gods do not exist, he only claimed that he is more powerful than the competition.
     
    Jahwism aka Biblical Judaism was an ethnic religion, which was concerned solely with Jews remaining faithful to Jahwe. The very possibility of being unfaithful presupposes the existence of other gods.
    On the other hand, Christianity is an universal religion which by this very fact must be both more accommodating (cannot simply condemn other people in the way Judaism does) and more denialist/unrealistic (claiming that Jesus is the only god etc). Maybe Judaism was chosen as its stem in order to preserve this universality, since it offers possibility of taking Jews into as well ? Objectively, Judaism and Christianity are not very compatible, I suppose Christianity would be more compatible with religions of other gods than Jahwe. Nevertheless,you can easily realize that it was Christianity which for a long time produced religious wars, not Judaism; that superficially looks like a paradox but in fact is a consequence of Christianity's nature.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  896. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    Going by the undersized army he first went into Ukraine with, Putin seems to banked on Kiev asking for terms once the invasion reached the capital rather than fight it out. Putin is desperate to end the war on terms he stipulates. Putin withdrawing without what he could present as a victory would be tantamount to admitting the war was a huge mistake in the first place and loosen his grip on power.

    .
    Too late for Putin to compromise, he must go on until the bitter end to (sort of) win or lose it all. The reformatting of Russian speaking Ukrainian cities leaves then like Mariinka, in which almost every building has been demolished transforming what was a city of 100,000 into a 'hellscape'. I don't see this war continuing as in anyone's interests but neither side is willing to accept they cannot win through in the end.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    The reformatting of Russian speaking Ukrainian cities leaves then like Mariinka, in which almost every building has been demolished transforming what was a city of 100,000 into a ‘hellscape’.

    Any unbiased observer had noticed by now that while Russian side works hard to minimize its own casualties, Russia is also trying to minimize the damage and casualties in Ukraine. Militarily it could have done a lot more destruction (e.g., US-style scorched earth – Raqqa is a good example), but chose not to. The reformatting will be done after capitulation of current Kiev regime. Russian troops won’t storm any big cities.

    he must go on until the bitter end

    The end will be bitter for the Kiev regime and its Western masters. For the RF it will be bitter-sweet: a victory paid for by sacrifices, like the previous war with Nazis. German Nazis were a lot more capable and not corrupt, so sacrifices were much greater, but the war still ended in Berlin, not in Moscow.

    • Agree: Derer, Mikhail
    • Disagree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Russia is also trying to minimize the damage and casualties in Ukraine. Militarily it could have done a lot more destruction (e.g., US-style scorched earth – Raqqa is a good example), but chose not to
     
    The places that Russia has captured have been razed to the ground, with almost no one left in them. Casualties have been minimized because Ukraine evacuates the civilians as the front approaches.

    Replies: @Mikel

    , @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN, @Mikhail

  897. @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW


    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.
     
    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.


    "Four sites in Africa, three in Australia, nine in North America, five in south Asia and one in south-east Asia contain evidence of finger amputation." (from the quoted article")

    Likewise, there is tendency for other irrational deformations to appear around the world, deformations which sometimes co-exist. For example, the customs of cranial deformation and cousin marriage co-existed in ancient Egypt, Inca empire, ancient cultures of Fergana valley. Although cranial deformation ceased, cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.

    As for Arvo Part - I have even met him once in Warsaw during "Warsaw Autumn" festival, quite like his tintinabulli style, however, I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans....On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword), the accommodation conflict around Jesuits in China, as well as the general tendency of heresies and schism to become more strict than mainstream. In fact, for Christianity to retain its specific message, it would pay off to disavow any pagan custom -this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
    Overall, I find the idea of philosophia perennis really plausible. BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol. And you know, there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran ;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @S, @Barbarossa

    Talking specifically about fingers

    Well, you’re talking about ancient cultures that, while interesting, are not really relevant to European paganism (although the roots may go deep). Which, by the way, wasn’t always benign, you’re right about that – but we need to distinguish the actual beliefs and customs (customs usually have to do more with social mores and organizing society). As to missing fingers, has it ever occurred to you that those might have been ancient carpenters of some sort? There are actually guys who make expensive cabinets who are missing parts of their fingers. I mean… totally “ouch” but makes me kind of admire them a bit. 🙂

    So you see, there are admirable creatures already “among us”, we don’t need aliens. 🙂

    As for Arvo Part – I have even met him once in Warsaw during “Warsaw Autumn” festival

    Wonderful, wow! Warsaw Autumn sounds interesting, Appears to be very “experimental” – which is, of course, highly entertaining. 🙂

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    I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.

    Well, it is a deeply syncretic poem, and the verse he used as the lyrics for his piece – is also quite syncretic, in fact, reminds me of some ancient Baltic poems as well, they don’t even know for sure if the poem was written by St Patrick, I’m sure this poem would be considered “heretical” by strict Catholics, but it does come from Ireland. 🙂 Sorry, it just seemed beautiful and somewhat fitting. To dress this poem in minimalist style of music maybe accentuates the direct message in that verse, however, a pagan protection poem would most likely sound a bit more intense (more as an incantation, or recitation) and would not be as ethereal sounding with choral voices.

    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans….On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword)

    Both were present – both fire and sword, and some syncretism, accommodation. The conquered populations were quite large, you cannot police everyone. Plus, in the beginning the Mass was only 9n Latin. Only later the native languages came. And the old faith lives on.

    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?

    There will always be conflict between the two (and I personally have no issue with it – I’m fine with living separately, but please from the beginning then, before they take our men and women, the only issue I see is that Christianity is under attack right now, so it makes sense to protect it for cultural reasons, because you are essentially preserving the European heritage, even if it contains the seed of its demise – but we live in very extraordinary circumstances now where this may be needed).

    If Christianity has become “crypto-pagan” – as you choose to call it – this is not because of some exploration or introduction of paganism – it’s mostly because it had to accommodate to secularism and because of its own internal contradictions (or the contradictions with the modern world). I have sympathy for that actually, they simply do not want to lose people. But they will lose themselves. In this context nativist Christianity may not be that bad where you focus on how your Christian ancestors cultivated it just a hundred or so years ago (especially considering what the Pope just did – how is it fair to the believers?).

    So I wouldn’t use “crypto-pagan”, maybe a better term would be “altered to accommodate the needs of moderns”. Sorry, probably shouldn’t write those kinds of things on this day (and it’s not even all that bad in all cases). Never allow gays to rule you and never allow gays to hold important religious posts.

    BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol.

    Absolutely, especially Celtic and North European (see Cernunnos). But stag is used in secular poetry and literature a lot as well to mystify, because it is a mystical, slightly elusive creature and beautiful. A deer in the mist…

    • Replies: @Coconuts
    @LatW

    When he talks about Christianity becoming crypto-pagan APP may be thinking of this happening in Antiquity, when the Church adopted Marian veneration, communion of saints, started using pagan philosophy to interpret its theology etc., rather than it being a recent tendency.

    I think the crypto-pagan thing has been a typical Protestant critique of Catholicism (and probably) Orthodoxy for some centuries.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  898. @LatW
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Talking specifically about fingers
     
    Well, you're talking about ancient cultures that, while interesting, are not really relevant to European paganism (although the roots may go deep). Which, by the way, wasn't always benign, you're right about that - but we need to distinguish the actual beliefs and customs (customs usually have to do more with social mores and organizing society). As to missing fingers, has it ever occurred to you that those might have been ancient carpenters of some sort? There are actually guys who make expensive cabinets who are missing parts of their fingers. I mean... totally "ouch" but makes me kind of admire them a bit. :)

    So you see, there are admirable creatures already "among us", we don't need aliens. :)


    As for Arvo Part – I have even met him once in Warsaw during “Warsaw Autumn” festival
     
    Wonderful, wow! Warsaw Autumn sounds interesting, Appears to be very "experimental" - which is, of course, highly entertaining. :)

    I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
     
    Well, it is a deeply syncretic poem, and the verse he used as the lyrics for his piece - is also quite syncretic, in fact, reminds me of some ancient Baltic poems as well, they don't even know for sure if the poem was written by St Patrick, I'm sure this poem would be considered "heretical" by strict Catholics, but it does come from Ireland. :) Sorry, it just seemed beautiful and somewhat fitting. To dress this poem in minimalist style of music maybe accentuates the direct message in that verse, however, a pagan protection poem would most likely sound a bit more intense (more as an incantation, or recitation) and would not be as ethereal sounding with choral voices.

    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans….On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword)
     
    Both were present - both fire and sword, and some syncretism, accommodation. The conquered populations were quite large, you cannot police everyone. Plus, in the beginning the Mass was only 9n Latin. Only later the native languages came. And the old faith lives on.

    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
     
    There will always be conflict between the two (and I personally have no issue with it - I'm fine with living separately, but please from the beginning then, before they take our men and women, the only issue I see is that Christianity is under attack right now, so it makes sense to protect it for cultural reasons, because you are essentially preserving the European heritage, even if it contains the seed of its demise - but we live in very extraordinary circumstances now where this may be needed).

    If Christianity has become "crypto-pagan" - as you choose to call it - this is not because of some exploration or introduction of paganism - it's mostly because it had to accommodate to secularism and because of its own internal contradictions (or the contradictions with the modern world). I have sympathy for that actually, they simply do not want to lose people. But they will lose themselves. In this context nativist Christianity may not be that bad where you focus on how your Christian ancestors cultivated it just a hundred or so years ago (especially considering what the Pope just did - how is it fair to the believers?).

    So I wouldn't use "crypto-pagan", maybe a better term would be "altered to accommodate the needs of moderns". Sorry, probably shouldn't write those kinds of things on this day (and it's not even all that bad in all cases). Never allow gays to rule you and never allow gays to hold important religious posts.

    BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol.
     

    Absolutely, especially Celtic and North European (see Cernunnos). But stag is used in secular poetry and literature a lot as well to mystify, because it is a mystical, slightly elusive creature and beautiful. A deer in the mist...

    Replies: @Coconuts

    When he talks about Christianity becoming crypto-pagan APP may be thinking of this happening in Antiquity, when the Church adopted Marian veneration, communion of saints, started using pagan philosophy to interpret its theology etc., rather than it being a recent tendency.

    I think the crypto-pagan thing has been a typical Protestant critique of Catholicism (and probably) Orthodoxy for some centuries.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Coconuts

    Starting from the repeated accusations of Revelation of St John against the group named "people who call themselves Jews but are not Jews", which in the context of its time could be reliably raised only against two groups - rabbinic Judaism (probably creation of Phoenicians, who introduced their own law into Judaism, aka oral law, later Talmud, and sidetricked all OT except Pentateuch and Five Megillot (Scrolls, eg. Book of Ruth, Book of Esther etc) or Pauline Christianity (Apocalypse is Judeochristian) or both of them - we can infer it came to some kind of hostile takeover of Judaism.

    A lot of Protestantism was some kind of Judaization, which I would read as "improving our cover as Christians became too clearly a false Jews/pagans". Protestants, though, relied heavily on St Paul, which in the context of Apocalypse charge denies them benefit of bona fide Judaization. Their core doctrine, sola fide, is very non-Jewish.

  899. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran
     
    I think that attempts to separate satanic from divine in the Bible, Quran, or any other religious book are misguided. The Bible (Old Testament, as well as the whole New Testament, canonical and apocryphal) is a collection of interesting historic documents, however much they were distorted to serve powers that be in different periods. If you look at it the rational way, the question of divine vs satanic does not arise.

    this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
     
    In the Old Testament Jewish god never said that the other gods do not exist, he only claimed that he is more powerful than the competition. The claim that he is the only true god came later, for purely economic and political reasons: Christian church wanted absolute power and monopoly on robbing the gullible.

    It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is)
     
    The reason for cousin marriage is purely economical: to keep the wealth in the family. That reason was valid in all societies where private property existed. No need to explain it by invoking space aliens. For similar economical/political reasons in ancient Egypt pharaohs married their own sisters. This is biologically even less healthy than cousin marriage.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    The reason for cousin marriage is purely economical: to keep the wealth in the family

    .

    I don’t think it is true, since then it would spread everywhere, but it does persist mostly in cultures where it already did exist – and that regardless of their economic prosperity. In fact, it is most popular among the poor. Any kind of interests in preserving wealth must be conditioned on the stability of this wealth, which is not true since let’s say ancient Egypt was conquered multiple times, and there is no correlation between inbreeding coefficient and wealth too.

    In fact, cousin marriage is quite popular among Fergana Valley peoples, people who were living in Soviet Union for a long time – I would think that cousin marriage or any substantial dowry would be banned then.

    Cousin marriage conserves chromosome X, which conserves some recessive traits but otherwise does not have any recognisable benefits outweighing its downsides. It is more like meme of conservation demanding replication etc. It could be very well implanted by some alien civilization/gods, since relevant cultures did not have an appropriate genetic knowledge. Its persistence has a character of religious practice, not economic necessity/benefit – otherwise every family practicing cousin marriage would live in a rich museum. In fact, cousin marriages have detrimental effect for family wealth in case if that family is not rich already, since it enforces wealth deconcentration as the practice puts stress on having large amount of children in order to provide marriage partners: if my brother has 5 sons, I must have 5 daughters etc.

    In the Old Testament Jewish god never said that the other gods do not exist, he only claimed that he is more powerful than the competition.

    Jahwism aka Biblical Judaism was an ethnic religion, which was concerned solely with Jews remaining faithful to Jahwe. The very possibility of being unfaithful presupposes the existence of other gods.
    On the other hand, Christianity is an universal religion which by this very fact must be both more accommodating (cannot simply condemn other people in the way Judaism does) and more denialist/unrealistic (claiming that Jesus is the only god etc). Maybe Judaism was chosen as its stem in order to preserve this universality, since it offers possibility of taking Jews into as well ? Objectively, Judaism and Christianity are not very compatible, I suppose Christianity would be more compatible with religions of other gods than Jahwe. Nevertheless,you can easily realize that it was Christianity which for a long time produced religious wars, not Judaism; that superficially looks like a paradox but in fact is a consequence of Christianity’s nature.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    In fact, it is most popular among the poor.
     
    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.

    cousin marriage is quite popular among Fergana Valley peoples, people who were living in Soviet Union for a long time – I would think that cousin marriage or any substantial dowry would be banned then.
     
    Soviet law prohibited both dowry and paying for the bride (which means, in effect, buying a girl from her parents). However, in real life both practices were common in Soviet Central Asia. I know for a fact from girls from that region that payments for the bride went all the way up to 10,000 rubles (in that period this was roughly the price of the best Soviet car, Volga, so by buying power it is equivalent to ~$100,000 in today’s US). Some Central Asian women were proud that their husbands were willing to pay so much for them. Apparently, they did not object to being sold like a commodity.

    We had some Central Asian girls in my years at the Moscow State University. They avoided the boys from the region, like a plague. They willingly went for anyone who was not from the region, even those other girls considered unattractive. Apparently, women with some education desperately wanted to get out of Central Asian culture and away from the clutches of their families/clans. Now I understand them well.


    if my brother has 5 sons, I must have 5 daughters
     
    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.

    Christianity is an universal religion
     
    Christianity always tried to achieve domination to the point of monopolizing the society. Hence the wars. In that sense it’s akin to the communist ideology in the USSR. That explains the hostility of early communists towards the church: crush the competition mentality. Yet in their attempts of maximum expansion both Christianity and communist ideology tended to absorb local customs and mores.

    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church. If you were caught cheating on your wife/husband, in the USSR you were not allowed to go abroad (even to Warsaw Pact countries) and could be kicked out of the party. If you were career-oriented, this was a huge setback, basically killing you prospects.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Mr. XYZ

  900. Steamboat Willie finally enters into the public domain next year.

    Just to tweak Disney, I would like to see people make a whole series where Willie steams up different rivers, encounters diverse natives, and battles homosexuals. In one episode, he can fight Amazon women, as a tribute to Kathleen Kennedy.
    ______
    Am skeptical of three-fingered aliens, as I suspect it would be impossible to make even Acheulean stone tools. And, if you are super-advanced, why give up fingers?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @songbird

    Perhaps the alien's fingers fused together following a long period of disuse (million years) after they developed telekinetic competency.

    In other words, our human "mechanical experience" may have zero relevance to understanding aliens, though our conceptual experience may be relevant if one is open-minded enough to translate.

    Replies: @songbird

  901. @Sean
    @AP


    The best and safest way of dealing with it is to keep it smaller,
     
    I don't think adding parts of Ukraine or even all Ukraine will add to Russian formidableness, especially as it has provoked a NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe. In air power Nato is already even more dominant

    Russia to direct its energies away from Europe.
     
    Militarily, Russia is a clumsy stubborn power strongish in its nearest abroad that are not Nato members (ukraine). The energy sales for high prices (to the West) are dead. In addition to losing its key energy deal that fueled manufacturing, German is going to have to pay for its own defence now, which amounts to a massive hit for the EC. If Trump gets it and repeats his demands that Germany stops freeloading on the US taxpayer, the economic outlook for Germans will be grim indeed. Putin could let the EC stew in its own juice, he certainly could not dream of attacking Nato, that is something his generals would tell him was a non-starter.

    Replies: @Beckow, @AP, @Philip Owen, @Cesar1191, @Derer

    NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe.

    Your childishly assume that Germany, in the case of conflict, would stay allied with their present occupier. They will switch to their beneficial alliance with Russia in a moment. They are listening to the ghost of Napoleon and Hitler.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Derer

    Mearsheimer said years ago that it drove many American statigist crazy that Germany had economic and energy deals with Russia, while protected from Russian by NATO; that has not worked out well. Germany wanted its exports to be competitive though the EU single currency that deindustrialises the other membersand cheap Russian energy, while cocooned within NATO, with its defence paid for by US taxpayers. Germany is aghast at how they are now dependent on the US for energy that is high cost, and being called on to rearm. As always the governments economic experts' cure for all troubles is more immigration and indeed it is a feature not a bug for the civil services of Western countries that immigration is inexorably rising year on year.

    Russia is a country that is unable to offer Germany such benefits as the West can. Also Russia is too close for a comfortable alliance as far as Germans are concerned. Leapfrogging to a country on the far side of a dangerous neighbour is the standard procedure in such a situation (alliance with Japan in ww2). So I think Germany will try to increase its capital goods sales to China and get establish friendly relations with it, but Germany needs the West when it comes down to it. The sconomits panacea will be repeat prescribed as nauseum: EthnoGermans will be a minority by 2090, somewhat later that Britain and France.

    Replies: @QCIC

  902. @Mr. XYZ
    @Anatoly Karlin


    As you know I am against the existence of all nation-states including the RF but insofar as they continue to exist my ideal vision for Russia now is to become a gay merchant republic, aspiring to the likes of Sweden or the Netherlands.

     

    Anatoly, I have a question in regards to this from your last post: How exactly do you plan to make Russians respect the rule-of-law and oppose corruption to the same extent that Dutch and Scandinavians do? After all, East Slavic countries, even democratic Ukraine, don't exactly have a super-stellar reputation in this regard. I wonder what percentage of East Slavic corruption and distaste for the rule-of-law is a result of the Soviet legacy and how much of it is due to other, possibly genetic factors:

    https://jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/corruption-perceptions-index-2016.jpg

    By comparing Moldova vs. Romania and Taiwan vs. China in regards to corruption, we can see that Communism/a Communist legacy can affect a country's corruption levels by quite a bit. My hunch is that Galicia-Volhynia are more honest than the rest of Ukraine is due to them being less corrupted by Communism, but I don't know by just how much.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    That map was created and paid for by a client, for a client. It is therefore a pure hogwash. The Anglo zone is the most corrupt block – congratulation.

    • LOL: Mr. XYZ
  903. @AP
    @Beckow


    If Kiev loses they will have to formally agree to what Russia asks.
     
    The nature of such a loss would have to be the conquest of Kiev and central Ukraine. Because no government from this region would acquiesce to Putin's demands of so-called demilitarization, so-called de-Nazification, etc.

    Central Ukraine doesn’t have to be occupied – that would be self-defeating.
     
    That would be the only way of having a non-hostile state there.

    Because a conquest of central Ukraine is extremely unlikely, there will be a state hostile to Russia there.

    And if a conquest were to occur, most of the population would simply leave and settle in other countries. This would contribute to those countries becoming more anti-Russian. Imagine a million fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainians living in your Slovakia. Fico would be in trouble.

    Bulk of the remaining people will go with the flow
     
    You are too dumb to realize that Ukrainians are not Slovaks. Neither are Balts, or Poles, or many other peoples. You go with the flow, we do not.

    Arestovich has a high-level family security background and has always been slightly dodgy. He clearly has some high-level cover and is not a fool to say these things openly.
     
    He was thrown out for saying silly things publicly.

    No matter what happens, the Ukie girls are staying
     
    The ones from the West and Center have largely returned. The Easterners not so much, it is dangerous in their lands. You might want to be careful with STDs from those Easterners, it's the epicenter. Good luck.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    You are too dumb to realize that Ukrainians are not Slovaks. Neither are Balts, or Poles, or many other peoples. You go with the flow, we do not.

    Makes one wonder what exactly Poland would have done had the Anglo-French fought over Czechoslovakia back in 1938 and France got quickly defeated in 1939, similar to what happened in 1940 in real life. Would Poland in such a scenario have flipped from pro-Allied to pro-Axis, similar to 1940 Romania in real life, or would Poland have acted like post-1941 coup Yugoslavia and voluntarily thrown itself under the Nazi bus, rejecting any hint of accommodating the Nazis?

  904. @AP
    @Beckow


    But do you know who has ruled England for hundreds of years?
     
    If you knew Russian history better you would know that not only the royal family but even much of the aristocracy were foreign - Baltic Germans, people from Tatar descent, Lithuanians, Rurikids, etc.

    The Soviets Revolution swept away the older foreigners who ruled Russians and brought rule by Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians over Russians.

    But you don't know much about history.

    And what were the Habsburgs really “ethnically”? They were heavily inbred
     
    You don't even know the history of the family who ruled over you.

    The house of Habsburg-Lorraine that ruled Austria and Austria-Hungary after 1736 were not inbred. Inbreeding had been a problem primarily with the earlier ones (especially the Spanish ones).

    Thanks for demonstrating the inferiority of Slovak education.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    If you knew Russian history better you would know that not only the royal family but even much of the aristocracy were foreign – Baltic Germans, people from Tatar descent, Lithuanians, Rurikids, etc.

    The Soviets Revolution swept away the older foreigners who ruled Russians and brought rule by Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians over Russians.

    But you don’t know much about history.

    From Lothrop Stoddard, in the 1920s:

    (This specific book of his is called Racial realities in Europe and is from 1924.)

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89013486980&seq=210&q1=western&start=2

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    Suddenly, dramatically, the situation changed. Peter
    the Great became Czar and determined to “open a win-
    dow to the West ” and let in the light df civilization. Peter
    was a man of tremendous energy and iron will. He hated
    half-measures and insisted that he be instantly obeyed.
    Accordingly, he tried to jump several centuries and or-
    dered Russia to become westernized overnight. But his
    subjects l^ung back. Ignorant and fanatical, they clung
    doggedly to their old ways and refused to.embrace a civi-

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    lization wMcL they did not in the least comprehend.
    This resistance, however, merely infuriated Peter and
    hardened his resolution. As much a tyrant as any of his
    predecessors, opposition seemed to him criminal and in-
    tolerable. Accordingly, he not only opened a window but
    dragged Russia by the hair of the head clear out of its
    dark house into the Western sunshine, and since he could
    get little aid from his subjects he imported multitudes of
    Westerners to act as drill-masters and carry out his orders.

    This policy, begun by Peter and continued by his suc-
    cessors, westernized Russia— on the surface. Within a
    short time Russia looked pretty much like a Western na-
    tion. The newcomers from Western Europe (mostly Ger-
    mans and Scandinavians) together with many Russians
    converted to the government’s policy gave Russia a veneer
    of Western civilization and formed a ruhng class which
    was almost a caste apart. Beneath this veneer, however.
    Old Russia lived on, the bulk of the Russian people, espe-
    cially the peasants, remaining almost untouched by West-
    ern influences. Henceforth Russia became more than
    ever a land of strange contrasts and conflicting ideas,
    where new and old, east and west, Europe and Asia, jos-
    tled, fought, and illogically combined.

    These contrasts and conflicts were nowhere better re-
    vealed than in Russian political life. Despite its western-
    izing policy, the Russian Government remained at heart
    un-westerrdzed. Its spirit was still that of the Tartar
    jEQians, even though it wore European clothes and built
    railroads. The Russian Government, in fact, tried to
    borrow the material equipment of Western civilization and
    fit it to haJf-Oriental ideals. This experiment, however.

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    197

    created difSculties which led ultimately to disaster.
    Though outwardly Eussia became a great World Power,
    inwardly she was tom by mental and spiritual conflicts
    which grew sharper as time went on. Imperial Eussia
    was thus a giant with feet of clay. Not only did the Eus-
    sian masses remain instinctively hostile to westerniza-
    tion, but the upper classes quarrelled among themselves.
    Those Eussians who became truly westernized in spirit
    began demanding that Eussia adopt the liberal ideals as
    well as the material improvements of Western civilization.
    This, however, the despotic government refused, and.
    the liberal protesters were sent to Siberia, That embit-
    tered the liberals and,made them revolutionists, while
    revolutionary agitation in turn further infuriated the
    government and increased its persecuting activity. More
    and more Eussia became a house divided against itself,
    and consequently broke down whenever faced by a real
    test. The preliminary break down took place imder the
    strain of the Eusso-Japanese War in 1904, when Eussia
    fell into revolutionary turmoil. The old regime just man-
    aged to save itself and restore order, but below the sur-
    face Eussia went on seething and the social foundations
    wore badly shaken. Then came the far heavier strain of
    the Great War— and Imperial Eussia collapsed. The old
    order being hopelessly shattered, the extreme revolu-
    tionary elements took advantage of the chaotic confusion,
    established their Bolshevist dictatorship, and plunged
    Eussia into a hell of class war, terrorism, poverty, cold,
    disease, and famine.

    Into the horrors and failures of Bolshevism I do not
    propose to enter. They are well known and need no de-

    198 RACIAL REALITIES IN EUROPE

    tailed discussion here. What is not so well known is the
    important fact that the present Bolshevik government,
    though differing widely in its economic aims, is in its
    spirit and political methods strikingly like the old im-
    perial govermnent which it replaced. The outstanding
    characteristics of the Bolshevik regime are violence and
    despotism. But those were precisely the outstanding
    characteristics of the old imperial regime. Russia has
    thus merely changed tyrants, one despotism having been
    followed by another. The main outcome of the revolu-
    tion has been a cracking of the Western veneer which had
    been imposed upon Russia by Peter the Great. Much of
    the material equipment borrowed by Russia from the
    West has been destroyed, while the former upper classes
    (largely of Western origin) have been killed or driven
    into exile. The real losers by the revolution are the truly
    westernized elements who had worked for a Russia wes-‘
    ternized in spirit but who now see their illusions shat-
    tered. In fact, the revolution was largely a revolt against
    Westernism. In many ways Russia is to-day farther from
    Europe and nearer to Asia than she has been since Peter
    opened his “window to the West.”

    He then proceeded to discuss how Russia is more just “merely big” rather than great:

    What will emerge from the obscure and troubled transi-
    tion period through which Russia is passing’ ho one can
    say. Yet one word of caution is distinctly needed. Many
    persons imagine that because Russia is. a land of huge
    size, vast natural resources, and immense population,
    something “great” and “constructive” must necessarily
    arise. Such persons are thinking in terms of quantity
    rather than quality. The more we look at Russia’s past
    and Russia’s racial make-up, the more we are led to sus-
    pect that Russia may not be really great, but merely

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    big— which is something very different from true great-
    ness. To-day, as in former days, Russia appears as a
    complex, unstable mass of diverse bloods, tendencies, and
    ideas. This of course makes possible startling and in-
    teresting developments, but i|; also works against crear
    tive, constructive progress. Russia Has given birth to
    many brilliant individuals, but as a people, what has
    Russia done? This distinction should be clearly kept in
    mind. Because a stock produces talented writers and
    artists is no necessary proof that it possesses high polit-
    ical and social capacities. Russian history has been the
    story of mixed populations dominated by a succession of
    masterful ruling minorities mainly of foreign origin. , Now,
    no people of high political initiative and creative capacity
    would be likely to leave the direction of their political
    and economic life so continuously and so generally in
    the hands of foreign masters. It is therefore only fair to
    judge the Russians, not so much by what they have said
    as by what they , have done— or rdther, by what they
    have failed to do.

    Brilliancy of thought combined with failure in action
    is char^eristic of the Russians-as it is of many mixed
    stocks. ^Ins is instinctively recognized by Russians them-
    selves. /Russian novels are full of attractive young heroes
    full of ideas who start out to do great things but soon
    slack off and end in futile melancholy. Russian life seems
    to be typified in those stimulatiog yet inconclusive con-
    versations so beloved by Russians, which go on all night
    long over innumerable cigarettes and cups of tea, and
    which end at dawn with everybody tired, everything dis-
    cussed— and nothing settled !

  905. BTW, I have thought about something important, and reached a conclusion: If you want me to support an anti-immigration candidate here in the US, then this candidate would probably need to support making the current child support situation much fairer, especially (but not exclusively) for males. What I’m thinking of here would be allowing people who have used long-acting reversible contraception and/or previously got sterilized to have a unilateral opt-out from paying child support, or at least to have such an opt-out with the consent of their partner before sex, with this opt-out actually being legally binding, unlike right now in real life. People with income can be charged a certain fee ahead of time if they will want this, and they would have to give up all of their parental rights to any resulting children in order to reduce the possibility of fraud in regards to this.

    Child support insurance is a great idea but unfortunately it doesn’t actually exist and even if it did exist it would be way too expensive because it takes a lot of money to design and draft specialty insurance and it might also be contrary to public policy because some judges might not like the idea of people and the government viewing children as losses and burdens.

  906. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Gessen likening the Gaza siege to the Warsaw Uprising and following up about it on Amanpour’s show is a sign.
     
    Wow! I never expected Masha Gessen creature to make any sense. This is beyond belief.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    Here it is:

    Far more sense than this slop from Fiona Hill:

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/12/21/exp-amanpour-fiona-hill-intw-122101pseg2-cnni-world.cnn

    Hill absurdly speaks of a proxy war against the US, when it’s neocon/neolib foreign policy influenced America which is fighting a proxy war against Russia on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. Related:

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/12122023-ukraines-future-oped/

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/22102023-answering-biden-on-russia-ukraine-and-israel-palestine-oped/

    On Hill’s bringing up the issue of a diminished US foreign policy influence, neolib Zbigniew Brzezinski said that the US’ global influence will see a decline in the coming years, while nevertheless remaining a world power (Brzezinski is wrong in foreseeing a weakened Russia, crawling to the West out of desperation.) Foolhardy advocacy like the parasitic proxy war against Russia serves to further enhance an American decline on the world stage. After the Soviet demise, Russia very much wanted to cooperate with the collective West on a reasoned basis.

  907. @Beckow
    @AP

    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don't understand what a nation means, who are the English, French, Russians, Poles, Magyars...how a "nation" is formed. And that it is much better that way.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others. Sarkozy was a Magyar gypsy with Thessalonike Jew, Holland's name speaks for itself, Macron is a total weirdo, I am not sure French would want to claim his blood.

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite, then a large group of Protestant Germans came in...then Jews, and now they are ruled by an Indian guy. Charles has almost no "English" blood and BoJo was a Turko-Danish-Celtic concoction with lots of added booze.You come across as a total moron blabbing half-digested idiocies. Your selective look at only the purity of "Russians" betrays your incurable hatred of them - all are pure in your world, but the damn Russians...riiight.

    You may need more than your anti-autism pills. But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs - pretty scary, but you will cherrypick again to medicate yourself, whatever...Merry Christmas...:)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @AP

    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy.

    My comment had nothing to do with pure blood. Once again you reveal more about yourself than say anything about me. Do thoughts of pure blood come into your mind so easily because of the Nazis your Slovaks so eagerly served?

    I didn’t mention or discuss anything about purity, I pointed out that Russia in rather unique in how it is basically a project of foreigners who rule over Eastern Slavs, using a despotic political framework inherited from Mongol rulers/teachers that is very good at internal exploitation.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others

    French elite have historically been Frenchman, who themselves are a mixture of Gauls, Franks, and Romans (more of the latter in the south).

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite

    The closest parallel to Russia would be the situation when the English elite were Norman conquerors. But this happened once, 1,000 years ago, and did not repeat.

    In Russia, however, it has been an ingrained part of history. The very name Russia is derived from Norse and Wendish overlords who forced Eastern Slavs to give them furs, grin, honey to sell and even sold the Eastern Slavs themselves as slaves.

    So the first part of Russian history involved about a dozen branches of a Norse ruling family and their retinues, consisting of mostly Norsemen and some Wends. Then the Mongols came, provided the political culture, and added Tatars and Mongols to the mix of foreigners ruling Eastern Slavs. This was the traditional Muscovite state. Who ruled all those Eastern Slavs? Russian historian Vernadsky provided a survey:

    229 of Western European (including German) origin, 223 of Polish and Lithuanian origin (this number included Ruthenian nobility), 156 of Tatar and other Oriental origins, 168 families belonged to the House of Rurik and 42 were of unspecified “Russian” origin.

    Peter the Great reformed the state and added a sea of Baltic Germans and other Western people to the mix of the ruling class who were non-Eastern Slavs, ruling Eastern Slavs. Eventually even his own ruling line was replaced by Germans.

    The Bolsheviks of course swept them all away, after the Revolution it was now the turn of Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians to rule over Eastern Slavs. They went much further and were far more brutal than their predecessors, they killed millions of them. Still, the Russian people love their cruel Georgian master.

    Such is the historical pattern of Russia: non Eastern-Slavs ruling Eastern Slavs.

    While other places had foreign ruling families (Germans in England) or a foreign ruling class immediately after a conquest, no other place consistently, century after century, had an entire ruling class that was so different in origin from the masses they ruled. An internal colonial system. Prussian Junkers were – Germans. Polish szlachta were – Poles. Same for France, Italy, etc. Ukrainian elites, such as they were, were mostly Eastern Slavs. But Russia’s elites were largely families of Baltic German, Tatar, Lithuanian, etc. origins. Some had ancient East Slavic boyar origins, but they were just a part of the mix.

    To the extent that this is true in modern Ukraine, it is a product of Russian cultural influence. And naturally is not true of the least Russified parts of the country.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs

    Franz Josef was normal-looking and not inbred, same for Karl. Did you know that Slovakia was not part of Spain?

    But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.

    I’ll return the sentiment.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Beckow
    @AP


    ...My comment had nothing to do with pure blood.
     
    No, your comment is all about pure blood...the usual obsessive cherrypicking of unprovable 1,000 year old minutia. Normans in England? Noooo...but Vikings in Russia? Yeees...do you even see your pathological biases? Your Hollywood view of the "heroic knight" past is a fantasy, with the ongoing Kiev collapse you need something to hold on to.

    Your primitive hatred of anything "Russian" is sad. To go to 1,000 year old history and repeat idiotic Hitler fairy-tales shows weakness and insecurity. But that's you, the leopard will not change his spots.

    In any case, Habsburgs were retards and Franz Joseph was the premier one: a piece of degenerate sh..t who ruined Central Europe. Even Austria - his home country - banned all Habsburgs from even stepping on the Austrian territory after 1918... Everyone at his time other than your Galician brown-nosing "relatives" knew it.

    Merry Christmas...you got the Ukie Orthodox now to change the Church Calendar to be more like the West, what's next? Changing the alphabet and maybe forcefully renaming people? Good one, this must go over really well in the more traditional countryside.

    Last and only time it was done was by the Nazis in 1941 - it s quite a circus now: Nazi instincts, desperation, with the smarter rats abandoning the ship. What a sh..t-show...maybe a bit more "Viking " blood would make the Ukies less pathetic. Is it too late for that?

    Replies: @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    In Russia, however, it has been an ingrained part of history. The very name Russia is derived from Norse and Wendish overlords who forced Eastern Slavs to give them furs, grin, honey to sell and even sold the Eastern Slavs themselves as slaves.

     

    Yep, AFAIK "Rus" means "rowers" in Old Norse.

    BTW, did you see and read those Lothrop Stoddard passages about Russia from 1924 that I have previously posted here? The man was a notorious racist and segregationist, but he nevertheless had a keen eye when it came to geopolitics.

    Replies: @Beckow

  908. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I wonder if this was funded by the CIA?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Mr. Hack

    What in the world would make you think that?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The CIA and other groups have acknowledged supporting Bandera-ites in that era. Full spectrum propaganda is part of that reality. It is difficult to know the full story and sometimes the situation is complex and gray. Nonetheless, getting hundreds of thousands of men murdered for no good reason is not gray, it is evil.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  909. @Gerard1234
    @AP

    Lmao-what an absurd charade!!!

    1. As has been proven numerous times, a worthless scumbag as yourself cannot speak Ukrainian. It's so sick and disturbing what trash like you tries to do - use your experience of writing a trillion posts on here to mimic pretending you listened to Hack's clip by writing generic nonsense based on the years this Hodiak guy was born and where (I. E this idiotic charade of "speech not like post-war galician"- which is of course instantaneous BS made based on his years of birth and nothing else)

    2. Satanist trash as yourself should in no way be associated with Christmas from a religious view, or even the 99% Jewish created, secular, in parts fun one they do in Pindostan

    3. Very pleasant that in addition to your fake Ukrainianism, there is your fake attempt to "rescue" Ukrainians by having them live in your place of residence. Just where are the ukrop refugees in your place over western Christmas? Lmao. Why wouldn't you have there, sorry "save" them from genocide you ridiculous fraud!

    Replies: @Jazman, @AP

    You were caught writing nonsense as usual about Ukrainian patriot John Hodiak, so now write more nonsense about me.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @AP

    It is all about your nonsense...make that visit they can help you, but your condition is beyond repair. Ukraine is at the level of Zimbabwe and you are stupidly making from them some great nation - the elite has left, they refused to serve the American installed midget.

    Replies: @AP

  910. @Jazman
    @Gerard1234

    I am glad you are back to give this fake Ukie what he deserve

    Replies: @AP

    Pro-Russian but too dumb to be an actual Russian.

    You are a Serb, right?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP

    At least Serbs should get credit for being non-homicidal for their level of average IQ. Almost as dull as US blacks are but roughly as homicidal as US whites are. Very impressive!

  911. @songbird
    Steamboat Willie finally enters into the public domain next year.

    Just to tweak Disney, I would like to see people make a whole series where Willie steams up different rivers, encounters diverse natives, and battles homosexuals. In one episode, he can fight Amazon women, as a tribute to Kathleen Kennedy.
    ______
    Am skeptical of three-fingered aliens, as I suspect it would be impossible to make even Acheulean stone tools. And, if you are super-advanced, why give up fingers?

    Replies: @QCIC

    Perhaps the alien’s fingers fused together following a long period of disuse (million years) after they developed telekinetic competency.

    In other words, our human “mechanical experience” may have zero relevance to understanding aliens, though our conceptual experience may be relevant if one is open-minded enough to translate.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @QCIC


    In other words, our human “mechanical experience” may have zero relevance to understanding aliens, though our conceptual experience may be relevant if one is open-minded enough to translate.
     
    If I saw a depiction of an alien with three fingers, I would suppose rather that it speaks to human biases.

    A lot of American cartoons have four. Because it is easier to animate, but doesn't cross into the Uncanny Valley, the way that three would.

    Three looks alien. I imagine because of deep instincts about wanting to preserve one's fingers, from leprosy, etc., or the other side in battle, or when hunting a dangerous animal, or working a tool.

    I once had a horse fly land on my pinky. It really freaked me out visually because it totally obscured a segment of it.

    Possibly there could be some reason for engineering three fingers. (they would need to be engineered and against strong instincts to preserve them.). like devoting the brain space to something else. But it is hard to perceive why a race would do such a thing.

    Anyway, willingness to do extreme body modification through DNA manipulation would probably result in more body-type diversity (like in the Hyperion saga) rather than some weird traits, like three fingers, being fixated in one species.

  912. @songbird
    @S

    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W54
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-4_Falcon

    I imagine they would definitely be able to make people forget short term memories by then, but I suppose that wouldn't make for a good dramatic narrative.

    Replies: @QCIC, @S

    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.

    Post WWII they went overboard with the nuclear stuff. I seem to recall they even came up with a nuclear powered airplane design. The air to air nuclear missiles were a part of that I suppose, until someone realized it was overkill to use a nuclear bomb to take out a single airplane.

    [Kind of remindful of the postwar ‘better living through chemistry’ craze. Then it occurred to folks that natural food was probably better for a person than artificial ‘food’ constructed wholly out of chemicals.]

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @S

    If the threat is a nuclear weapon, why not use nuclear weapons to destroy it? This is a problem from the beginning of the nuclear age. A nuclear-powered submarine may carry nuclear-armed missiles, why wouldn't one use nuclear armed weapons to stop it? An aircraft carrier is nuclear powered and has the possibility of carrying nuclear weapons. Why not use nuclear weapons to stop it? The risk of escalation with nuclear weapons is very high.

    Replies: @S

    , @songbird
    @S


    The air to air nuclear missiles were a part of that I suppose, until someone realized it was overkill to use a nuclear bomb to take out a single airplane.
     
    Must have been pretty hair-raising to fire - original version had a 12s fuse.

    But I think they made good sense for the time because homing technology was limited to start with, and WW2 had involved big formations of bombers. And they seem to have had limited escalatory potential, as they were only designed against aircraft and meant to be used after visual confirmation.

    Thousands were made. They seem to have had them in stockpiles, at least into the mid '80s. Canada too.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/air-air-nuke-could-have-decimated-bomber-fleets-no-problem-193157

    I think they got rid of them because nuclear bombers had essentially become obsolete, with the advent of advanced intercontinental ballistic missiles on the Soviet side in the mid '70s.

    They definitely liked nuclear tech back then, but I think we've moved too much in the opposite direction. No reason why we shouldn't be building experimental reactors on some isolated atoll in the Pacific.

    Replies: @S

  913. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    What in the world would make you think that?

    Replies: @QCIC

    The CIA and other groups have acknowledged supporting Bandera-ites in that era. Full spectrum propaganda is part of that reality. It is difficult to know the full story and sometimes the situation is complex and gray. Nonetheless, getting hundreds of thousands of men murdered for no good reason is not gray, it is evil.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Because John Hodiak was appealing for Ukrainians in America to help financially support Ukrainian refugees (mostly children) leaving Ukraine, he's to be considered a Banderite? This is just one more example of your skewed and faulty thinking that permeates everything that you write. Another reason to disregard you and anything that you write.

    Replies: @QCIC

  914. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    the most ethnic Russian populated parts of it are gone, and they are not coming back.
     
    The ones that are gone certainly will never come back, but there are many more Russian-speaking regions that are still under Kiev regime control. In more than half of the remaining rump Ukraine people in the cities, educated and uneducated, speak Russian (except for a few Western-most regions, Ukrainian is the native language of village hillbillies). I don’t think the RF will take them all, as that would entail massive outlays for reconstruction that RF population won’t accept. Putin is very sensitive to the wishes of the populace, so that huge mistake of the USSR won’t be repeated. After Ukraine capitulation the RF is more likely to reformat whatever it wishes to allow to remain Ukraine and leave it be under its watchful eye.

    in that sense Israel already has crashed and burnt
     
    Israel is likely to crash and burn is a more literal way. Unfortunately, with rivers of spilled blood. Current Israel is busily digging its own grave even as we speak. Despite the hopes of Israeli elites, neither the empire, nor bought and paid for Arab elites will be able to save it for long.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Sean, @Mr. Hack

    Putin is very sensitive to the wishes of the populace, so that huge mistake of the USSR won’t be repeated.

    Not just sensitive , but “Very sensitive” you say? How do you know this? Outside of few carefully staged interaction’s, all staged for positive effect, doe he conduct any poles? Did he ask these grieving mothers at the gravesides of their sons who fell fighting in Ukraine, what they think of the war there?
    The Russian Mothers Waiting for News of Their Missing Soldier Sons

  915. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The CIA and other groups have acknowledged supporting Bandera-ites in that era. Full spectrum propaganda is part of that reality. It is difficult to know the full story and sometimes the situation is complex and gray. Nonetheless, getting hundreds of thousands of men murdered for no good reason is not gray, it is evil.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Because John Hodiak was appealing for Ukrainians in America to help financially support Ukrainian refugees (mostly children) leaving Ukraine, he’s to be considered a Banderite? This is just one more example of your skewed and faulty thinking that permeates everything that you write. Another reason to disregard you and anything that you write.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I don't speak Ukrainian but I am on the look out for deeper patterns in situations like this. 1947 was in the Cold War and it is fair to be suspicious and ask the hard questions. That does not mean I give the USSR a free pass.

    By 1990 things were slightly more clear. I understand nationalistic impulses but I think they should be tempered by the reality of how dangerous warfare is after 1945.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  916. @S
    @songbird


    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.
     
    Post WWII they went overboard with the nuclear stuff. I seem to recall they even came up with a nuclear powered airplane design. The air to air nuclear missiles were a part of that I suppose, until someone realized it was overkill to use a nuclear bomb to take out a single airplane.

    [Kind of remindful of the postwar 'better living through chemistry' craze. Then it occurred to folks that natural food was probably better for a person than artificial 'food' constructed wholly out of chemicals.]

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    If the threat is a nuclear weapon, why not use nuclear weapons to destroy it? This is a problem from the beginning of the nuclear age. A nuclear-powered submarine may carry nuclear-armed missiles, why wouldn’t one use nuclear armed weapons to stop it? An aircraft carrier is nuclear powered and has the possibility of carrying nuclear weapons. Why not use nuclear weapons to stop it? The risk of escalation with nuclear weapons is very high.

    • Replies: @S
    @QCIC


    A nuclear-powered submarine may carry nuclear-armed missiles, why wouldn’t one use nuclear armed weapons to stop it? An aircraft carrier is nuclear powered and has the possibility of carrying nuclear weapons. Why not use nuclear weapons to stop it?
     
    You'll have to asks the politicians and their scientists why they do what they do. Good luck getting a straight answer.

    In actual fact they have developed nuclear tipped torpedoes and depth charges. The British fleet in the Falklands War of 1982 carried dozens of nuclear depth charges on their ships.

    [Purportedly (at least), most naval nuclear weaponry has been out of commission since 1990.]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_depth_bomb

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/DominicAsrockSwordfish.gif/427px-DominicAsrockSwordfish.gif

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_45_torpedo

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Mark_45_Nuclear_Torpedo.jpg/800px-Mark_45_Nuclear_Torpedo.jpg

    During the Falklands War, Britain's naval task force carried 31 nuclear depth charges. HMS Hermes had 18, HMS Invincible had 12 and RFA Regent had one by mid-May 1982. The ships were within the “total exclusion zone” imposed by Britain around the Falkland Islands. Details of the number of devices per ship were contained in a file marked “Top Secret Atomic” found at the UK National Archives by media outlet Declassified UK.

     


    All nuclear anti-submarine weapons were withdrawn from service by China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States in or around 1990.
     

    Replies: @QCIC

  917. @songbird
    @LatW

    Did you ever see the 2017 film Pilgrimage?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage_(2017_film)

    I did not enjoy it and am not recommending it. The film was too woke for me, among other shortcomings.

    But I thought the final minute or two was interesting because, if you can disregard what is probably meant to be woke nihilism in much of the narrative, there's maybe a hidden message - I'm thinking it wasn't intentional but accidental, though I am not sure. (Spoiler)
    Basically, at the beginning of the movie there is this sacred relic stone, and they say something like"If you replaced it with another stone, nobody would know."

    At the end, after some amount of fighting and death, one guy throws it from a boat into an estuary and it sinks down among the other rocks and becomes indistinguishable.

    And from that, I took the message that every stone of Ireland is sacred, even below the low tide mark, though I doubt that is what they intended.

    Replies: @LatW

    Did you ever see the 2017 film Pilgrimage? [..] I did not enjoy it and am not recommending it. The film was too woke for me, among other shortcomings.

    Decided to watch it and came away with sort of mixed feelings (love the genre, medieval drama, so that part was good, as well as the visuals – scenery, horsemen, the “Quest”, original languages, etc). It’s not really too woke by my standards, but it is a bit biased against the Crusaders, it might be connected to the perception of the Norman invasion, it’s portrayed as very brutal. Not a very deep movie, but maybe interesting for the sake of atmosphere of those times (but hard to watch due to brutality).

    Interestingly, it has the same theme as in Black Robe– it shows converts following their new Christian overlords, and being led into their demise by doing so.

    Btw, those Irish monks were there in their rock houses in South West Ireland before the Norman invasion.

    Also, shows that these colonizers are unable to proceed much without some local help. It does feature the theme of féth fíada (the magical mist) and it does reference the Tuatha Dé Danann, but it doesn’t look like it gives a proper representation of it (a bit too shallow and also too “demonized”, too dark, those scenes were portrayed too much as if they were filled with superstition when in fact these supernatural beings were not seen as solely dark or evil, even if there may have been taboos around their dwelling areas – that’s normal and present in other cultures as well, for example, entering the sacred grove was not always allowed).

    And from that, I took the message that every stone of Ireland is sacred, even below the low tide mark, though I doubt that is what they intended.

    Hm, this is a cool interpretation, but, iirc, it was the “evil” Norman knight who said that – I think it was meant as a moment of doubt – as in why are we chasing this rock, when it can easily be exchanged for another. That it’s just some status symbol. Maybe to show the futility of the whole quest and to highlight the fanaticism of these early Christians. Fanaticism part seemed overplayed (but who knows).

    [MORE]

    The pagans were not portrayed in a flattering way either. The paganism was not portrayed accurately at all – I don’t get why they needed to hang those crows everywhere.

    So after I watched it on YT, a few other movies popped up – I watched another one, a Dutch movie about Frisians in the 8th century (called The Legend of Redbad). OMG, it was another completely inaccurate representation of pagans and very biased against Christianization as well. But it had great visuals. But again, probably not fully accurate attire and silly regalia everywhere (inappropriate pagan symbols for that century). But at least they had some cool looking knights and ancient Germanic warriors.

    My gosh, who makes these things… I think what I noticed was that in both movies, neither religious tradition is represented in a very positive light, but the hero, who is more of an individual on his own, is the good character. For example, in Pilgrimage, the Celtic boy from the old monasteries, even though he is forced to follow a fanatical priest, in the end, finds his own agency, finds the strength in himself to act independently, to have his own moral compass. Thus the ending scene with him in the boat, that looks like those old Celtic currachs, watching over the sea: “Where to now?” A kind of a representation of freedom, finally. Maybe freedom of an individual from both traditions.

    Btw, I have been to Newgrange, it’s a very tranquil place.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW

    If you suffer comedy from time to time, I can recommend watching the recent Polish hit, made by Netflix (!), "1670", which is a Polish comedy set in that year. I have laughed myself several times, which happens VERY RARELY to me when watching comedies.

    Unfortunately, foreigners won't be able to appreciate fully, as some texts are rooted in Polish reality. For example, in the episode "Equality march" [of non-Catholics], Bogdan confronted with Tatars says "Nie ma zgody na basz-basz" [There is no agreement for basz-basz/Tatar practice of jasyr, in the context of the movie], where the phrase "Nie ma zgody na" is a phrase which appears very often in politics, said by opposition, and only there actually. So you can read it is a very subtle play on the current Polish opposition to foreign immigration to Poland.

    There are some pieces for Westerners too; for example, in the first episode "The Baroque Music" is a variation of the march by Michael Nyman from his music to "The cook, the thief, his wife and her lover" of Peter Greenaway.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29420686/

    Some things are completely lost in translation, eg.

    "Jan Paweł: Kto rządzi Polską? Zaczyna sie na "ż" [Who rules Poland? Starts with "ż" ]
    Bogdan: Żydzi? [Jews?]
    Jan Paweł: Nie, żyto! [no, Rye]

    In English, it is "whores" and "wheat' .

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    , @songbird
    @LatW


    the hero, who is more of an individual on his own, is the good character
     
    And kind of unmasculine too.

    And the other hero, the masculine one, the mute, was coincidentally very foreign-looking. Of course, we can make excuses and say he is supposed to be strange to highlight how greatly he has sinned, how far he has run to get from his past. But the film is so nihilistic and deconstructive that it is hard not to see his casting as the intersection of modern politics.

    My gosh, who makes these things… I think what I noticed was that in both movies, neither religious tradition is represented in a very positive light

     

    It is amusing how they can make a film set in the 13th century and not even try to have the same reverence that was common in a 20th century peasant.

    And the cretins who pass for professional critics will always say, "they got the dirt right."

    Thus the ending scene with him in the boat, that looks like those old Celtic currachs, watching over the sea: “Where to now?”

     

    They existed pretty well into modern times. My great grandfather probably used one - his father almost certainly - with the difference being they were made of tarred canvas, rather than leather. Each area had its own design.

    Don't remember the boat scene too well. Granted, currachs probably made it to at least Iceland and possibly Greenland. But they were very dangerous. It is very comical to me - if that was the idea they were going for. Each currach had a bottle of holy water and rosary beads, tied inside of it. Fishermen were extremely clannish, with their own "kings." No man had his own boat but each a crew.

    The life of a fisherman was often a short one. Men often lived through their children, if they lived long enough to have them.

    Replies: @LatW

  918. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    Because John Hodiak was appealing for Ukrainians in America to help financially support Ukrainian refugees (mostly children) leaving Ukraine, he's to be considered a Banderite? This is just one more example of your skewed and faulty thinking that permeates everything that you write. Another reason to disregard you and anything that you write.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I don’t speak Ukrainian but I am on the look out for deeper patterns in situations like this. 1947 was in the Cold War and it is fair to be suspicious and ask the hard questions. That does not mean I give the USSR a free pass.

    By 1990 things were slightly more clear. I understand nationalistic impulses but I think they should be tempered by the reality of how dangerous warfare is after 1945.

    • LOL: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I don’t speak Ukrainian but I am on the look out for deeper patterns in situations like this.
     
    Did it ever occur to you to keep your empty headed thoughts to yourself before criticizing somebody's actions based on what they say if you don't understand the language? But hey, if you're on a treasure hunt and trying to uncover "deeper patterns" who am I to try and stop you? LOL buddy.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

  919. @Mr. Hack
    @Beckow


    This is good stuff…
     
    What's really good stuff is not that Zelensky forgot to shave recently, but that Ukrainians were able to knock out three SU-34's just a couple of days ago in the Kherson region near Krienke. These are the very best and most expensive jets that Russia has. If you think about it, this is really huge news on a par with knocking out a large Russian warship on the Black Sea. If I were you, I'd tell your boys to get their act together, so that you can continue to make your glib predictions about an impending Russian victory in Ukraine, otherwise. :-)

    https://youtu.be/CTECy76mOo8

    But wait the news gets even better! Russians down their own SU-25 recently too! The Russian fly-boys must be hitting the Christmas vodka a little bit early this year:

    https://youtu.be/gtOD6cVZwhw

    Replies: @Beckow, @QCIC, @Derer

    You are a lying arse…have you ever reported anything Ukrainian destroyed. They must be at the Moscow gates by now, be happy.

  920. @AP
    @Gerard1234

    You were caught writing nonsense as usual about Ukrainian patriot John Hodiak, so now write more nonsense about me.

    Replies: @Derer

    It is all about your nonsense…make that visit they can help you, but your condition is beyond repair. Ukraine is at the level of Zimbabwe and you are stupidly making from them some great nation – the elite has left, they refused to serve the American installed midget.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Derer

    Ukraine “on level of Zimbabwe” has managed to wrest control of the western Black Sea from Russia and remains standing after almost 2 years of Russian invasion despite Russia having about 4.5. times more people.

    Seethe some more, loser :-)

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  921. @Coconuts
    @LatW

    When he talks about Christianity becoming crypto-pagan APP may be thinking of this happening in Antiquity, when the Church adopted Marian veneration, communion of saints, started using pagan philosophy to interpret its theology etc., rather than it being a recent tendency.

    I think the crypto-pagan thing has been a typical Protestant critique of Catholicism (and probably) Orthodoxy for some centuries.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Starting from the repeated accusations of Revelation of St John against the group named “people who call themselves Jews but are not Jews”, which in the context of its time could be reliably raised only against two groups – rabbinic Judaism (probably creation of Phoenicians, who introduced their own law into Judaism, aka oral law, later Talmud, and sidetricked all OT except Pentateuch and Five Megillot (Scrolls, eg. Book of Ruth, Book of Esther etc) or Pauline Christianity (Apocalypse is Judeochristian) or both of them – we can infer it came to some kind of hostile takeover of Judaism.

    A lot of Protestantism was some kind of Judaization, which I would read as “improving our cover as Christians became too clearly a false Jews/pagans”. Protestants, though, relied heavily on St Paul, which in the context of Apocalypse charge denies them benefit of bona fide Judaization. Their core doctrine, sola fide, is very non-Jewish.

  922. @QCIC
    @S

    If the threat is a nuclear weapon, why not use nuclear weapons to destroy it? This is a problem from the beginning of the nuclear age. A nuclear-powered submarine may carry nuclear-armed missiles, why wouldn't one use nuclear armed weapons to stop it? An aircraft carrier is nuclear powered and has the possibility of carrying nuclear weapons. Why not use nuclear weapons to stop it? The risk of escalation with nuclear weapons is very high.

    Replies: @S

    A nuclear-powered submarine may carry nuclear-armed missiles, why wouldn’t one use nuclear armed weapons to stop it? An aircraft carrier is nuclear powered and has the possibility of carrying nuclear weapons. Why not use nuclear weapons to stop it?

    You’ll have to asks the politicians and their scientists why they do what they do. Good luck getting a straight answer.

    In actual fact they have developed nuclear tipped torpedoes and depth charges. The British fleet in the Falklands War of 1982 carried dozens of nuclear depth charges on their ships.

    [Purportedly (at least), most naval nuclear weaponry has been out of commission since 1990.]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_depth_bomb

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_45_torpedo

    During the Falklands War, Britain’s naval task force carried 31 nuclear depth charges. HMS Hermes had 18, HMS Invincible had 12 and RFA Regent had one by mid-May 1982. The ships were within the “total exclusion zone” imposed by Britain around the Falkland Islands. Details of the number of devices per ship were contained in a file marked “Top Secret Atomic” found at the UK National Archives by media outlet Declassified UK.

    All nuclear anti-submarine weapons were withdrawn from service by China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States in or around 1990.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @S

    Progress in arms control combined with advancements in conventional "smarter" weapons apparently led to the retirement of many or even most smaller, tactical nuclear weapons.

    Russia brought back the nuclear armed torpedo in a larger form as a response to the USA policy of gradually dismantling the nuclear arms control framework. The broader context includes expansion of NATO and proxy wars against Russia. The new Russian weapon called the Poseidon is reportedly intended to destroy coastal cities. It is a high escalation directly related to the USA dropping out of the Anti-ballistic missile treaty. If I recall correctly, Russia teased information on this weapon for a long time before it was formally announced, probably as an attempt to coax the West back into a less suicidal policy with respect to Mutually Assured Destruction. Russia has apparently now accepted that there are no competent leaders in the West to discuss mutual security issues.

  923. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I don't speak Ukrainian but I am on the look out for deeper patterns in situations like this. 1947 was in the Cold War and it is fair to be suspicious and ask the hard questions. That does not mean I give the USSR a free pass.

    By 1990 things were slightly more clear. I understand nationalistic impulses but I think they should be tempered by the reality of how dangerous warfare is after 1945.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I don’t speak Ukrainian but I am on the look out for deeper patterns in situations like this.

    Did it ever occur to you to keep your empty headed thoughts to yourself before criticizing somebody’s actions based on what they say if you don’t understand the language? But hey, if you’re on a treasure hunt and trying to uncover “deeper patterns” who am I to try and stop you? LOL buddy.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The deeper pattern I notice is the West playing a bunch of Ukrainian idiots in a way that could easily lead to World War Three. I speak out so that your misrepresentations of the conflict do not increase support for this very dangerous insanity.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    , @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack


    Did it ever occur to you to keep your empty headed thoughts to yourself before criticizing somebody’s actions based on what they say if you don’t understand the language?
     
    Hack, how rude of you to speak to an intellectual like QCIC like that you dimwit. Show some respect. Show a bit of class, like me.

    I should add that QCIC's language skills in mova OVERQUALIFY him to be Ukronazi President. 4 of the last 5 Ukrainian Presidents have had zero to very poor ability in speaking "Ukrainian" language and have had to learn it on the job. It makes all their Nazi laws passed even more despicable
  924. @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry


    analog reel-to-reel tape still gives the best music playback. The idea is that tape is much better than LP records

    Lol those are the most wealthy and serious music fans with the 15 IPS reel-to-reel
     

    Not quite sure how you could tell the difference...the tapes back then usually copied from stereophonic vinyl records? I had a friend who had such a tape player. I remember visiting him once and listening to King Crimson's first LP, "In the Court of the Crimson King". It was a very high quality listening experience (to my amateur ear) with a very deep sound. What made the experience even more interesting is that he had the option of running the music through some sort of an echo chamber too...

    Replies: @Dmitry

    y copied from stereophonic vinyl records?

    More popular or expensive tapes are often copied from the studio master. This is what the music fans are spending around $1000 per album for new 1st generation 15 IPS albums from the master tape.
    https://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&categoryid=406&OrderBy=price_d+desc

    From the technology view, the 16/44,1 redbook standard for CD can have almost all information our ears can perceive.*

    I guess the issue same as with the vinyl is people don’t like the way a lot of the songs had been mastered, which is of course rational when you hear the digital mastering in the pop music world where they usually brickwall everything.

    I remember visiting him once and listening to King Crimson’s first LP, “In the Court of the Crimson King”.

    It seems this album costs around $1400 if we want to buy the 1969 version now in the relatively unplayed condition. https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2287669?sort=price%2Cdesc&ev=rb

    You can understand why the fan of pop/rock music are paying more for vinyl/tape. The original mastering was for the vinyl format and there have been so many problems of the remastering and the post-1990s mastering in the pop music world.

    The dynamics of pop music was destroyed by the people who listen to music in car or background. After the 1990s, pop music has been mastered as a kind kind of noise pollution,

    While classical music is impossible enough for anyone to listen in the car, so the engineers mostly brickwall for some kind of unusual compilations, classical radio stations, “Mozart for babies”. Although there were still plenty of problems in the classical albums.

    It’s sad when you see that pop music in the 1980s for the vinyl release, they still mastered for people who were not listening in the car.

    I haven’t measured the dynamic ranges for these 1980s songs, but checking with your ears you can see the vinyl original release had more dynamic range than pop music of today. Although the main difference was the artist’s overall view about the dynamics.

    *Visual information is very different than with audio, where we will need to go at least 8K perhaps next decade before we can represent all the detail which was seen in the cinema originally in the films especially 70mm. Unfortunately as most of the young generations don’t have that much interest in films in this way, there will probably be lack of funding to restore many films to 8K.

    • Thanks: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Dmitry

    Your choice of 1980's pop music is quite good. Sade managed to enter the scene with 2-3 great albums and then somehow her meteor blazed into the dark void. George Michael...nice. Dire Straits...solid.

  925. @LatW
    @songbird


    Did you ever see the 2017 film Pilgrimage? [..] I did not enjoy it and am not recommending it. The film was too woke for me, among other shortcomings.
     
    Decided to watch it and came away with sort of mixed feelings (love the genre, medieval drama, so that part was good, as well as the visuals - scenery, horsemen, the "Quest", original languages, etc). It's not really too woke by my standards, but it is a bit biased against the Crusaders, it might be connected to the perception of the Norman invasion, it's portrayed as very brutal. Not a very deep movie, but maybe interesting for the sake of atmosphere of those times (but hard to watch due to brutality).

    Interestingly, it has the same theme as in Black Robe- it shows converts following their new Christian overlords, and being led into their demise by doing so.

    Btw, those Irish monks were there in their rock houses in South West Ireland before the Norman invasion.

    Also, shows that these colonizers are unable to proceed much without some local help. It does feature the theme of féth fíada (the magical mist) and it does reference the Tuatha Dé Danann, but it doesn't look like it gives a proper representation of it (a bit too shallow and also too "demonized", too dark, those scenes were portrayed too much as if they were filled with superstition when in fact these supernatural beings were not seen as solely dark or evil, even if there may have been taboos around their dwelling areas - that's normal and present in other cultures as well, for example, entering the sacred grove was not always allowed).


    And from that, I took the message that every stone of Ireland is sacred, even below the low tide mark, though I doubt that is what they intended.
     
    Hm, this is a cool interpretation, but, iirc, it was the "evil" Norman knight who said that - I think it was meant as a moment of doubt - as in why are we chasing this rock, when it can easily be exchanged for another. That it's just some status symbol. Maybe to show the futility of the whole quest and to highlight the fanaticism of these early Christians. Fanaticism part seemed overplayed (but who knows).

    The pagans were not portrayed in a flattering way either. The paganism was not portrayed accurately at all - I don't get why they needed to hang those crows everywhere.

    So after I watched it on YT, a few other movies popped up - I watched another one, a Dutch movie about Frisians in the 8th century (called The Legend of Redbad). OMG, it was another completely inaccurate representation of pagans and very biased against Christianization as well. But it had great visuals. But again, probably not fully accurate attire and silly regalia everywhere (inappropriate pagan symbols for that century). But at least they had some cool looking knights and ancient Germanic warriors.

    My gosh, who makes these things... I think what I noticed was that in both movies, neither religious tradition is represented in a very positive light, but the hero, who is more of an individual on his own, is the good character. For example, in Pilgrimage, the Celtic boy from the old monasteries, even though he is forced to follow a fanatical priest, in the end, finds his own agency, finds the strength in himself to act independently, to have his own moral compass. Thus the ending scene with him in the boat, that looks like those old Celtic currachs, watching over the sea: "Where to now?" A kind of a representation of freedom, finally. Maybe freedom of an individual from both traditions.

    Btw, I have been to Newgrange, it's a very tranquil place.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @songbird

    If you suffer comedy from time to time, I can recommend watching the recent Polish hit, made by Netflix (!), “1670”, which is a Polish comedy set in that year. I have laughed myself several times, which happens VERY RARELY to me when watching comedies.

    Unfortunately, foreigners won’t be able to appreciate fully, as some texts are rooted in Polish reality. For example, in the episode “Equality march” [of non-Catholics], Bogdan confronted with Tatars says “Nie ma zgody na basz-basz” [There is no agreement for basz-basz/Tatar practice of jasyr, in the context of the movie], where the phrase “Nie ma zgody na” is a phrase which appears very often in politics, said by opposition, and only there actually. So you can read it is a very subtle play on the current Polish opposition to foreign immigration to Poland.

    There are some pieces for Westerners too; for example, in the first episode “The Baroque Music” is a variation of the march by Michael Nyman from his music to “The cook, the thief, his wife and her lover” of Peter Greenaway.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29420686/

    Some things are completely lost in translation, eg.

    “Jan Paweł: Kto rządzi Polską? Zaczyna sie na “ż” [Who rules Poland? Starts with “ż” ]
    Bogdan: Żydzi? [Jews?]
    Jan Paweł: Nie, żyto! [no, Rye]

    In English, it is “whores” and “wheat’ .

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Actually, one of the secondary characters is simply called 'spiskujący Żyd" (the conspiring Jew).

  926. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    The reformatting of Russian speaking Ukrainian cities leaves then like Mariinka, in which almost every building has been demolished transforming what was a city of 100,000 into a ‘hellscape’.
     
    Any unbiased observer had noticed by now that while Russian side works hard to minimize its own casualties, Russia is also trying to minimize the damage and casualties in Ukraine. Militarily it could have done a lot more destruction (e.g., US-style scorched earth – Raqqa is a good example), but chose not to. The reformatting will be done after capitulation of current Kiev regime. Russian troops won’t storm any big cities.

    he must go on until the bitter end
     
    The end will be bitter for the Kiev regime and its Western masters. For the RF it will be bitter-sweet: a victory paid for by sacrifices, like the previous war with Nazis. German Nazis were a lot more capable and not corrupt, so sacrifices were much greater, but the war still ended in Berlin, not in Moscow.

    Replies: @AP, @Sean

    Russia is also trying to minimize the damage and casualties in Ukraine. Militarily it could have done a lot more destruction (e.g., US-style scorched earth – Raqqa is a good example), but chose not to

    The places that Russia has captured have been razed to the ground, with almost no one left in them. Casualties have been minimized because Ukraine evacuates the civilians as the front approaches.

    • Replies: @Mikel
    @AP


    Casualties have been minimized because Ukraine evacuates the civilians as the front approaches.
     
    There was some very ugly stuff going on during the Russian attack on Mariupol with all those failed attempts to evacuate civilians. I don't know what exactly happened there but from a military and political perspective it's not easy to imagine the Russians being interested in having lots of civilians living in the city they were trying to storm.

    Of course, the Western media all went along with the Kiev narrative that the Russians not only wanted to occupy the city but also to kill as many (Russian speaking) civilians as possible while doing so and they were the only ones sabotaging the evacuation efforts. Absent any ethnic bias, it just boggles my mind how anyone can have any strong sympathy for any of the parties in this war.

    In any case, if the Ukrainians and Russians had managed to agree to a large-scale humanitarian evacuation, a huge amount of families would not be broken now and lots of civilians (possibly thousands) would be alive. The Azovs keeping hundreds of civilians inside the Azovstal catacombs along with them was quite unseemly too. If the Russians were willing to sign an agreement that meant the eventual release of the very Azov Battalion leaders, it's obvious that they would have also agreed to evacuate those women and children inside the catacombs, with 3rd-party mediation if necessary.

    Replies: @AP

  927. @Derer
    @AP

    It is all about your nonsense...make that visit they can help you, but your condition is beyond repair. Ukraine is at the level of Zimbabwe and you are stupidly making from them some great nation - the elite has left, they refused to serve the American installed midget.

    Replies: @AP

    Ukraine “on level of Zimbabwe” has managed to wrest control of the western Black Sea from Russia and remains standing after almost 2 years of Russian invasion despite Russia having about 4.5. times more people.

    Seethe some more, loser 🙂

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Ukraine “on level of Zimbabwe” has managed to wrest control of the western Black Sea from Russia and remains standing after almost 2 years of Russian invasion despite Russia having about 4.5. times more people.
     
    LOL

    1. That is total BS about the Black Sea.
    2. Any actions in the Black Sea has been done entirely with western plans, western technology, western orders, western intelligence ( suspect mostly British), western testing . I suppose a fraud like you can try to mimic being Ukrainian by attaching yourself to this - parasiting off and serving foreign powers, claiming their work as your own

    3. Zimbabwe's Tank program is equal (maybe even better) to the Ukrop "Oplot" tank program , which have of course been invisible in the SMO, lol.
    I suspect a bimbo as yourself would have cluelessly endlessly promoted the Oplot program before 2022 like the useless wakjob you are. Just WTF did these clowns do in the 8 year period on this upgrade?

    4. DOCTOR Mugabe managed to defeat the Europeans out of Zimbabwe. The "4.5 times population" is just you being an aimless bimbo idiot again. If Doctor Mugabe had cuckolded himself with 4 different groups and been kicked out of Harare 4 different times (after about 2 seconds each time) from 4 failed invasions ..then the great man would have been viewed as a joke, a failure............in Banderastan that catastrophe would get him viewed as "Ukrainian National hero" like that Petliura wakjob serial failure. Zimbabwe is standing, Ukraine failure is not.
  928. @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW


    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.
     
    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.


    "Four sites in Africa, three in Australia, nine in North America, five in south Asia and one in south-east Asia contain evidence of finger amputation." (from the quoted article")

    Likewise, there is tendency for other irrational deformations to appear around the world, deformations which sometimes co-exist. For example, the customs of cranial deformation and cousin marriage co-existed in ancient Egypt, Inca empire, ancient cultures of Fergana valley. Although cranial deformation ceased, cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.

    As for Arvo Part - I have even met him once in Warsaw during "Warsaw Autumn" festival, quite like his tintinabulli style, however, I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans....On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword), the accommodation conflict around Jesuits in China, as well as the general tendency of heresies and schism to become more strict than mainstream. In fact, for Christianity to retain its specific message, it would pay off to disavow any pagan custom -this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
    Overall, I find the idea of philosophia perennis really plausible. BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol. And you know, there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran ;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @S, @Barbarossa

    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.

    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.

    There was an old 1967-68 US television series called The Invaders. One of the ways you could tell someone was an invading alien, despite appearing otherwise entirely human, was ‘a deformed fourth finger’. I’m guessing in UFO lore the idea, or something like that, may go back some ways.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invaders

    They [the aliens] appear human except for a few telltale characteristics (they lack a pulse, the ability to bleed, or show emotion, and many have a deformed fourth finger).

    https://youtu.be/HEUdsXmCE7g?si=FX-L_6XUBy8VOFAz

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @S

    Cutting off a finger is used in magic or initiation rituals. It happens right before the climax action in Tigana.

    https://www.amazon.com/Tigana-Anniversary-Guy-Gavriel-Kay/dp/0451457765

    This is an excellent book and I rarely like this genre. I find Tolkein unreadable.

    Some of the supernatural powers are so twisted they will grant any favor as exchange for such a sacrifice. I had a dream the other day which lingered for a long time. I tried to make a grocery purchase with a small bill and the checkout lady threw it back at me. She said, "that thing is fake". I looked and it was a five dollar bill on the front and a one dollar bill on the back. Then she said, "pagans make that shit".

  929. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    The reformatting of Russian speaking Ukrainian cities leaves then like Mariinka, in which almost every building has been demolished transforming what was a city of 100,000 into a ‘hellscape’.
     
    Any unbiased observer had noticed by now that while Russian side works hard to minimize its own casualties, Russia is also trying to minimize the damage and casualties in Ukraine. Militarily it could have done a lot more destruction (e.g., US-style scorched earth – Raqqa is a good example), but chose not to. The reformatting will be done after capitulation of current Kiev regime. Russian troops won’t storm any big cities.

    he must go on until the bitter end
     
    The end will be bitter for the Kiev regime and its Western masters. For the RF it will be bitter-sweet: a victory paid for by sacrifices, like the previous war with Nazis. German Nazis were a lot more capable and not corrupt, so sacrifices were much greater, but the war still ended in Berlin, not in Moscow.

    Replies: @AP, @Sean

    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result

    • Disagree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    I think the Neocons would love a Korea-like situation after the SMO. I don't think Russia will accept that, but they may leave a situation which looks a bit like Korea to the casual observer.

    Kiev is the main problem. Russia does not want to wreck it but they cannot afford to leave a western-aligned power structure there to cause future flareups of combat. I have speculated that Kiev might become a city-state like Cold War West Berlin as a way to leave it intact while neutralizing the political power inherent there.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result
     
    Just look at the latest news from the front lines. Then consider domino effect.

    Kiev regime’s goose is cooked. The clown and many of his ilk will run away to those they consider their masters. Most likely they will be then “suicided” by their masters, like Berezovsky: nobody keeps a condom after it’s been used. Will serve them right.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mikhail
    @Sean

    Korean War saw America and other supporting boots on the ground. The Russian SMO is noticeably different. Comparatively speaking, the US Civil War and Soviet-Finnish War are much better military analogies.

    Russia will prevail. The main issues are when and what Ukraine's diminished configuration will be.

  930. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I don’t speak Ukrainian but I am on the look out for deeper patterns in situations like this.
     
    Did it ever occur to you to keep your empty headed thoughts to yourself before criticizing somebody's actions based on what they say if you don't understand the language? But hey, if you're on a treasure hunt and trying to uncover "deeper patterns" who am I to try and stop you? LOL buddy.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    The deeper pattern I notice is the West playing a bunch of Ukrainian idiots in a way that could easily lead to World War Three. I speak out so that your misrepresentations of the conflict do not increase support for this very dangerous insanity.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    So, in your brilliant analysis of Hodiak's speech you managed to spot some of my "misrepresentations" of Ukraine's defensive war against Russia? You're obviously living in some sort of a fantasy world. You and your "deeper patterns" need to take a hike to somewhere in the Twilight Zone.

    https://youtu.be/-b5aW08ivHU
    The source of QCIC's "deeper patterns"

    Replies: @QCIC

  931. @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW

    If you suffer comedy from time to time, I can recommend watching the recent Polish hit, made by Netflix (!), "1670", which is a Polish comedy set in that year. I have laughed myself several times, which happens VERY RARELY to me when watching comedies.

    Unfortunately, foreigners won't be able to appreciate fully, as some texts are rooted in Polish reality. For example, in the episode "Equality march" [of non-Catholics], Bogdan confronted with Tatars says "Nie ma zgody na basz-basz" [There is no agreement for basz-basz/Tatar practice of jasyr, in the context of the movie], where the phrase "Nie ma zgody na" is a phrase which appears very often in politics, said by opposition, and only there actually. So you can read it is a very subtle play on the current Polish opposition to foreign immigration to Poland.

    There are some pieces for Westerners too; for example, in the first episode "The Baroque Music" is a variation of the march by Michael Nyman from his music to "The cook, the thief, his wife and her lover" of Peter Greenaway.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29420686/

    Some things are completely lost in translation, eg.

    "Jan Paweł: Kto rządzi Polską? Zaczyna sie na "ż" [Who rules Poland? Starts with "ż" ]
    Bogdan: Żydzi? [Jews?]
    Jan Paweł: Nie, żyto! [no, Rye]

    In English, it is "whores" and "wheat' .

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Actually, one of the secondary characters is simply called ‘spiskujący Żyd” (the conspiring Jew).

  932. @S
    @QCIC


    A nuclear-powered submarine may carry nuclear-armed missiles, why wouldn’t one use nuclear armed weapons to stop it? An aircraft carrier is nuclear powered and has the possibility of carrying nuclear weapons. Why not use nuclear weapons to stop it?
     
    You'll have to asks the politicians and their scientists why they do what they do. Good luck getting a straight answer.

    In actual fact they have developed nuclear tipped torpedoes and depth charges. The British fleet in the Falklands War of 1982 carried dozens of nuclear depth charges on their ships.

    [Purportedly (at least), most naval nuclear weaponry has been out of commission since 1990.]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_depth_bomb

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/DominicAsrockSwordfish.gif/427px-DominicAsrockSwordfish.gif

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_45_torpedo

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Mark_45_Nuclear_Torpedo.jpg/800px-Mark_45_Nuclear_Torpedo.jpg

    During the Falklands War, Britain's naval task force carried 31 nuclear depth charges. HMS Hermes had 18, HMS Invincible had 12 and RFA Regent had one by mid-May 1982. The ships were within the “total exclusion zone” imposed by Britain around the Falkland Islands. Details of the number of devices per ship were contained in a file marked “Top Secret Atomic” found at the UK National Archives by media outlet Declassified UK.

     


    All nuclear anti-submarine weapons were withdrawn from service by China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States in or around 1990.
     

    Replies: @QCIC

    Progress in arms control combined with advancements in conventional “smarter” weapons apparently led to the retirement of many or even most smaller, tactical nuclear weapons.

    Russia brought back the nuclear armed torpedo in a larger form as a response to the USA policy of gradually dismantling the nuclear arms control framework. The broader context includes expansion of NATO and proxy wars against Russia. The new Russian weapon called the Poseidon is reportedly intended to destroy coastal cities. It is a high escalation directly related to the USA dropping out of the Anti-ballistic missile treaty. If I recall correctly, Russia teased information on this weapon for a long time before it was formally announced, probably as an attempt to coax the West back into a less suicidal policy with respect to Mutually Assured Destruction. Russia has apparently now accepted that there are no competent leaders in the West to discuss mutual security issues.

    • Thanks: S
  933. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN, @Mikhail

    I think the Neocons would love a Korea-like situation after the SMO. I don’t think Russia will accept that, but they may leave a situation which looks a bit like Korea to the casual observer.

    Kiev is the main problem. Russia does not want to wreck it but they cannot afford to leave a western-aligned power structure there to cause future flareups of combat. I have speculated that Kiev might become a city-state like Cold War West Berlin as a way to leave it intact while neutralizing the political power inherent there.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @QCIC

    The Korean war has never officially ended and because it would leave Ukraine free to join Nato, the war in Ukraine ending by explicit peace agreement would be a disaster for Russia's interests as the Russian leadership see them.

    Why on earth would Putin agree to a treaty that would mean Ukraine had no territorial disputes and could therefore join NATO. The best outcome for Russia now is to takes most of the land up to the Dnieper and then decline to sign any peace treaty even though the actual fighting slowly fades.


    The military industrial complex needed Russia to be a peer competitor so it was portrayed as such. The man in the Kremlin considers the cost of those results the Russian army is actually able to achieve as worth it and cannot be convinced to order a cession of hostilities. Russia sees neutralising Ukraine's Washington alliance aspirations by an endless official state of war as the objective.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  934. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    The reason for cousin marriage is purely economical: to keep the wealth in the family
     
    .

    I don't think it is true, since then it would spread everywhere, but it does persist mostly in cultures where it already did exist - and that regardless of their economic prosperity. In fact, it is most popular among the poor. Any kind of interests in preserving wealth must be conditioned on the stability of this wealth, which is not true since let's say ancient Egypt was conquered multiple times, and there is no correlation between inbreeding coefficient and wealth too.

    In fact, cousin marriage is quite popular among Fergana Valley peoples, people who were living in Soviet Union for a long time - I would think that cousin marriage or any substantial dowry would be banned then.

    Cousin marriage conserves chromosome X, which conserves some recessive traits but otherwise does not have any recognisable benefits outweighing its downsides. It is more like meme of conservation demanding replication etc. It could be very well implanted by some alien civilization/gods, since relevant cultures did not have an appropriate genetic knowledge. Its persistence has a character of religious practice, not economic necessity/benefit - otherwise every family practicing cousin marriage would live in a rich museum. In fact, cousin marriages have detrimental effect for family wealth in case if that family is not rich already, since it enforces wealth deconcentration as the practice puts stress on having large amount of children in order to provide marriage partners: if my brother has 5 sons, I must have 5 daughters etc.


    In the Old Testament Jewish god never said that the other gods do not exist, he only claimed that he is more powerful than the competition.
     
    Jahwism aka Biblical Judaism was an ethnic religion, which was concerned solely with Jews remaining faithful to Jahwe. The very possibility of being unfaithful presupposes the existence of other gods.
    On the other hand, Christianity is an universal religion which by this very fact must be both more accommodating (cannot simply condemn other people in the way Judaism does) and more denialist/unrealistic (claiming that Jesus is the only god etc). Maybe Judaism was chosen as its stem in order to preserve this universality, since it offers possibility of taking Jews into as well ? Objectively, Judaism and Christianity are not very compatible, I suppose Christianity would be more compatible with religions of other gods than Jahwe. Nevertheless,you can easily realize that it was Christianity which for a long time produced religious wars, not Judaism; that superficially looks like a paradox but in fact is a consequence of Christianity's nature.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    In fact, it is most popular among the poor.

    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.

    cousin marriage is quite popular among Fergana Valley peoples, people who were living in Soviet Union for a long time – I would think that cousin marriage or any substantial dowry would be banned then.

    Soviet law prohibited both dowry and paying for the bride (which means, in effect, buying a girl from her parents). However, in real life both practices were common in Soviet Central Asia. I know for a fact from girls from that region that payments for the bride went all the way up to 10,000 rubles (in that period this was roughly the price of the best Soviet car, Volga, so by buying power it is equivalent to ~$100,000 in today’s US). Some Central Asian women were proud that their husbands were willing to pay so much for them. Apparently, they did not object to being sold like a commodity.

    We had some Central Asian girls in my years at the Moscow State University. They avoided the boys from the region, like a plague. They willingly went for anyone who was not from the region, even those other girls considered unattractive. Apparently, women with some education desperately wanted to get out of Central Asian culture and away from the clutches of their families/clans. Now I understand them well.

    if my brother has 5 sons, I must have 5 daughters

    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.

    Christianity is an universal religion

    Christianity always tried to achieve domination to the point of monopolizing the society. Hence the wars. In that sense it’s akin to the communist ideology in the USSR. That explains the hostility of early communists towards the church: crush the competition mentality. Yet in their attempts of maximum expansion both Christianity and communist ideology tended to absorb local customs and mores.

    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church. If you were caught cheating on your wife/husband, in the USSR you were not allowed to go abroad (even to Warsaw Pact countries) and could be kicked out of the party. If you were career-oriented, this was a huge setback, basically killing you prospects.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.
     
    That would make sense only if "wealth" was land-based and providing living for an entire family. However, it would presuppose really iron rules of inheritance and as far as I know they not as iron as the rule of cousin marriage is, whereas they should be more iron than the cousin marriage as the enforcer of the latter. There are other solutions: in Europe the institution of majorat was introduced in order not to divide landed property.

    Otherwise, if our poor family has no land but just one riksha, are we really to enforce a life-long cousin marriage in order to retain this troubled riksha in our family??!


    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.
     
    Rarely it can work like that. Nevertheless, if just a single generation would be unevenly split (5 brothers on one side and 5 brothers on another), that would generate the need of 10 girls in the family, and would immediately explode the family in future, forsaking the preservation of wealth due to higher number of people! Plus, generational cousin marriage results in ~20% probability of severe diseases which exclude bearers from marriageable pool, yet they still bring costs to families.

    I have once read that Saudi royal family, who breeds among themselves, has uncontrollably exploded and is eating more and more revenues of Saudi Arabia - this is the reality of cousin marriage if there are no controls at all. In other words, cousin marriage is not preserving wealth, it is eating it (just state's wealth in this example).


    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church.
     
    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces. Earlier there was Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told - propagated "free love" as a way to increase worker's output (no need to expand energy for love, if love is free; energy is needed in industrial plants!)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN


    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church. If you were caught cheating on your wife/husband, in the USSR you were not allowed to go abroad (even to Warsaw Pact countries) and could be kicked out of the party. If you were career-oriented, this was a huge setback, basically killing you prospects.

     

    What about if the marriage was open (non-monogamous) by the mutual consent of both spouses? No difference to the Communists?
  935. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN, @Mikhail

    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result

    Just look at the latest news from the front lines. Then consider domino effect.

    Kiev regime’s goose is cooked. The clown and many of his ilk will run away to those they consider their masters. Most likely they will be then “suicided” by their masters, like Berezovsky: nobody keeps a condom after it’s been used. Will serve them right.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Just look at the latest news from the front lines. Then consider domino effect.

    Explain that for us given that Russia is throwing meat waves to take Avdiivka and temperatures are getting frigid. What domino effect exactly are you suggesting if it is taking Russia this much effort to capture a small city?

    Kiev regime’s goose is cooked. The clown and many of his ilk will run away to those they consider their masters. Most likely they will be then “suicided” by their masters, like Berezovsky: nobody keeps a condom after it’s been used. Will serve them right.

    The same claim was made 48 hours after the war started. The 2.5 week special military operation is now on day 672. Two of the pro-Putin bloggers at Unz no longer speak of him. One hasn't blogged in months. At the start of the war we had numerous bloggers quoting MacGregor/Ritter and declaring that Ukraine is doomed. They are now silent but you believe Ukraine is doomed....again?

    Explain why you think the government of Kiev is about to flee when Putin has signaled that he is willing to accept the current lines.

    Replies: @Sean

  936. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    The deeper pattern I notice is the West playing a bunch of Ukrainian idiots in a way that could easily lead to World War Three. I speak out so that your misrepresentations of the conflict do not increase support for this very dangerous insanity.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    So, in your brilliant analysis of Hodiak’s speech you managed to spot some of my “misrepresentations” of Ukraine’s defensive war against Russia? You’re obviously living in some sort of a fantasy world. You and your “deeper patterns” need to take a hike to somewhere in the Twilight Zone.

    The source of QCIC’s “deeper patterns”

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I agree that the pro-Ukie zone often seems like another dimension.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

  937. @AnonfromTN
    @Sean


    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result
     
    Just look at the latest news from the front lines. Then consider domino effect.

    Kiev regime’s goose is cooked. The clown and many of his ilk will run away to those they consider their masters. Most likely they will be then “suicided” by their masters, like Berezovsky: nobody keeps a condom after it’s been used. Will serve them right.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Just look at the latest news from the front lines. Then consider domino effect.

    Explain that for us given that Russia is throwing meat waves to take Avdiivka and temperatures are getting frigid. What domino effect exactly are you suggesting if it is taking Russia this much effort to capture a small city?

    Kiev regime’s goose is cooked. The clown and many of his ilk will run away to those they consider their masters. Most likely they will be then “suicided” by their masters, like Berezovsky: nobody keeps a condom after it’s been used. Will serve them right.

    The same claim was made 48 hours after the war started. The 2.5 week special military operation is now on day 672. Two of the pro-Putin bloggers at Unz no longer speak of him. One hasn’t blogged in months. At the start of the war we had numerous bloggers quoting MacGregor/Ritter and declaring that Ukraine is doomed. They are now silent but you believe Ukraine is doomed….again?

    Explain why you think the government of Kiev is about to flee when Putin has signaled that he is willing to accept the current lines.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Putin has signaled that he is willing to accept the current lines.
     
    Eventually he might implicitly accept whatever the lines are at that point in the future. Wherever the lines are by then if Putin were to recognise lines to the east or west or the same as the current ones as the borders of Ukraine and Ukraine agreed then Ukraine as a country not in any dispute over its territory would be theoretically eligible to join NATO. I think Putin will cease actual hostilities eventually, but he will have zero incentive to sign a peace treaty or recognise the borders of even a rump Ukraine.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

  938. @QCIC
    @Sean

    I think the Neocons would love a Korea-like situation after the SMO. I don't think Russia will accept that, but they may leave a situation which looks a bit like Korea to the casual observer.

    Kiev is the main problem. Russia does not want to wreck it but they cannot afford to leave a western-aligned power structure there to cause future flareups of combat. I have speculated that Kiev might become a city-state like Cold War West Berlin as a way to leave it intact while neutralizing the political power inherent there.

    Replies: @Sean

    The Korean war has never officially ended and because it would leave Ukraine free to join Nato, the war in Ukraine ending by explicit peace agreement would be a disaster for Russia’s interests as the Russian leadership see them.

    Why on earth would Putin agree to a treaty that would mean Ukraine had no territorial disputes and could therefore join NATO. The best outcome for Russia now is to takes most of the land up to the Dnieper and then decline to sign any peace treaty even though the actual fighting slowly fades.

    The military industrial complex needed Russia to be a peer competitor so it was portrayed as such. The man in the Kremlin considers the cost of those results the Russian army is actually able to achieve as worth it and cannot be convinced to order a cession of hostilities. Russia sees neutralising Ukraine’s Washington alliance aspirations by an endless official state of war as the objective.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @Sean

    I think that Russia was way better off economically and even militarily before this stupid war was started. Free trade with the West, including western businesses busily at work within Russia employing Russians, was a win win for everyone. If this weren't so, Putler wouldn't be continually moaning to have western sanctions removed. Think about it, NS2 would have been a very big deal for Russia, and today? Militarily, Russia had the 2nd greatest military in the world, and today? The laughing stock of the world. And all signs seem to indicate that Russia is quickly spinning out of control, down a rabbit hole of no return:

    https://youtu.be/gzKqxgaRYpI

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Sean

  939. @Dmitry
    @Mr. Hack


    y copied from stereophonic vinyl records?

     

    More popular or expensive tapes are often copied from the studio master. This is what the music fans are spending around $1000 per album for new 1st generation 15 IPS albums from the master tape.
    https://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&categoryid=406&OrderBy=price_d+desc

    From the technology view, the 16/44,1 redbook standard for CD can have almost all information our ears can perceive.*

    I guess the issue same as with the vinyl is people don't like the way a lot of the songs had been mastered, which is of course rational when you hear the digital mastering in the pop music world where they usually brickwall everything.


    I remember visiting him once and listening to King Crimson’s first LP, “In the Court of the Crimson King”.

     

    It seems this album costs around $1400 if we want to buy the 1969 version now in the relatively unplayed condition. https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2287669?sort=price%2Cdesc&ev=rb

    You can understand why the fan of pop/rock music are paying more for vinyl/tape. The original mastering was for the vinyl format and there have been so many problems of the remastering and the post-1990s mastering in the pop music world.

    The dynamics of pop music was destroyed by the people who listen to music in car or background. After the 1990s, pop music has been mastered as a kind kind of noise pollution,

    While classical music is impossible enough for anyone to listen in the car, so the engineers mostly brickwall for some kind of unusual compilations, classical radio stations, "Mozart for babies". Although there were still plenty of problems in the classical albums.

    -


    It's sad when you see that pop music in the 1980s for the vinyl release, they still mastered for people who were not listening in the car.

    I haven't measured the dynamic ranges for these 1980s songs, but checking with your ears you can see the vinyl original release had more dynamic range than pop music of today. Although the main difference was the artist's overall view about the dynamics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3uR8Gw0vNE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26_LgmwrpMc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek6VP60MPwA

    -


    *Visual information is very different than with audio, where we will need to go at least 8K perhaps next decade before we can represent all the detail which was seen in the cinema originally in the films especially 70mm. Unfortunately as most of the young generations don't have that much interest in films in this way, there will probably be lack of funding to restore many films to 8K.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    Your choice of 1980’s pop music is quite good. Sade managed to enter the scene with 2-3 great albums and then somehow her meteor blazed into the dark void. George Michael…nice. Dire Straits…solid.

  940. Startling difference in the age profile in the casualties Israel is taking compared to Russia. Russians have gone out of the way to call up older age groups, not an option for Israel.

  941. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    In fact, it is most popular among the poor.
     
    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.

    cousin marriage is quite popular among Fergana Valley peoples, people who were living in Soviet Union for a long time – I would think that cousin marriage or any substantial dowry would be banned then.
     
    Soviet law prohibited both dowry and paying for the bride (which means, in effect, buying a girl from her parents). However, in real life both practices were common in Soviet Central Asia. I know for a fact from girls from that region that payments for the bride went all the way up to 10,000 rubles (in that period this was roughly the price of the best Soviet car, Volga, so by buying power it is equivalent to ~$100,000 in today’s US). Some Central Asian women were proud that their husbands were willing to pay so much for them. Apparently, they did not object to being sold like a commodity.

    We had some Central Asian girls in my years at the Moscow State University. They avoided the boys from the region, like a plague. They willingly went for anyone who was not from the region, even those other girls considered unattractive. Apparently, women with some education desperately wanted to get out of Central Asian culture and away from the clutches of their families/clans. Now I understand them well.


    if my brother has 5 sons, I must have 5 daughters
     
    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.

    Christianity is an universal religion
     
    Christianity always tried to achieve domination to the point of monopolizing the society. Hence the wars. In that sense it’s akin to the communist ideology in the USSR. That explains the hostility of early communists towards the church: crush the competition mentality. Yet in their attempts of maximum expansion both Christianity and communist ideology tended to absorb local customs and mores.

    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church. If you were caught cheating on your wife/husband, in the USSR you were not allowed to go abroad (even to Warsaw Pact countries) and could be kicked out of the party. If you were career-oriented, this was a huge setback, basically killing you prospects.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Mr. XYZ

    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.

    That would make sense only if “wealth” was land-based and providing living for an entire family. However, it would presuppose really iron rules of inheritance and as far as I know they not as iron as the rule of cousin marriage is, whereas they should be more iron than the cousin marriage as the enforcer of the latter. There are other solutions: in Europe the institution of majorat was introduced in order not to divide landed property.

    Otherwise, if our poor family has no land but just one riksha, are we really to enforce a life-long cousin marriage in order to retain this troubled riksha in our family??!

    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.

    Rarely it can work like that. Nevertheless, if just a single generation would be unevenly split (5 brothers on one side and 5 brothers on another), that would generate the need of 10 girls in the family, and would immediately explode the family in future, forsaking the preservation of wealth due to higher number of people! Plus, generational cousin marriage results in ~20% probability of severe diseases which exclude bearers from marriageable pool, yet they still bring costs to families.

    I have once read that Saudi royal family, who breeds among themselves, has uncontrollably exploded and is eating more and more revenues of Saudi Arabia – this is the reality of cousin marriage if there are no controls at all. In other words, cousin marriage is not preserving wealth, it is eating it (just state’s wealth in this example).

    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church.

    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces. Earlier there was Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told – propagated “free love” as a way to increase worker’s output (no need to expand energy for love, if love is free; energy is needed in industrial plants!)

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Saudi royal family can rely on the wealth of Saudi Arabia. However, if they had to rely on their own family wealth, they would be effectively eating it, not preserving it.
    Perhaps for this reason we know of no generations-old rich families from cousin-marrying cultures.

    , @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Another Polish Perspective

    My female cousins ended up decent looking but when I was a teenager the thought of mating with them was hideous. There may be biological mechanisms (very good biological mechanisms!) at work there. I cannot imagine how even more my teenage years would have totally sucked if I was under some stupid stricture of eventual marriage to one of those girls. The thought of it makes my stomach tumble a little even now--that is the level of visceral repugnance.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    , @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told – propagated “free love”
     
    I wouldn’t take her too seriously, I guess she had an ax to grind.

    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces.
     
    The idea of free love was based Marx’ conclusion that family appeared in human society along with private property to preserve the latter (so that only your progeny can inherit your wealth). This idea had only fringe support among Bolsheviks. The supporters argued that the need for sex is as natural as a need to drink water. Lenin, who had no religious education (no formal education beyond school, for that matter), countered by saying that even though you need to drink water, you won’t drink from a dirty puddle.

    As soon as Bolsheviks took power they instituted an official procedure of registering marriage (with the state, bypassing the church) long before Stalin became the ruler. In that they were prudes (you can say more catholic than the Pope).

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  942. @S
    @Another Polish Perspective



    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.
     
    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.
     
    There was an old 1967-68 US television series called The Invaders. One of the ways you could tell someone was an invading alien, despite appearing otherwise entirely human, was 'a deformed fourth finger'. I'm guessing in UFO lore the idea, or something like that, may go back some ways.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invaders

    They [the aliens] appear human except for a few telltale characteristics (they lack a pulse, the ability to bleed, or show emotion, and many have a deformed fourth finger).
     
    https://youtu.be/HEUdsXmCE7g?si=FX-L_6XUBy8VOFAz

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Cutting off a finger is used in magic or initiation rituals. It happens right before the climax action in Tigana.

    This is an excellent book and I rarely like this genre. I find Tolkein unreadable.

    Some of the supernatural powers are so twisted they will grant any favor as exchange for such a sacrifice. I had a dream the other day which lingered for a long time. I tried to make a grocery purchase with a small bill and the checkout lady threw it back at me. She said, “that thing is fake”. I looked and it was a five dollar bill on the front and a one dollar bill on the back. Then she said, “pagans make that shit”.

    • Thanks: S
  943. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.
     
    That would make sense only if "wealth" was land-based and providing living for an entire family. However, it would presuppose really iron rules of inheritance and as far as I know they not as iron as the rule of cousin marriage is, whereas they should be more iron than the cousin marriage as the enforcer of the latter. There are other solutions: in Europe the institution of majorat was introduced in order not to divide landed property.

    Otherwise, if our poor family has no land but just one riksha, are we really to enforce a life-long cousin marriage in order to retain this troubled riksha in our family??!


    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.
     
    Rarely it can work like that. Nevertheless, if just a single generation would be unevenly split (5 brothers on one side and 5 brothers on another), that would generate the need of 10 girls in the family, and would immediately explode the family in future, forsaking the preservation of wealth due to higher number of people! Plus, generational cousin marriage results in ~20% probability of severe diseases which exclude bearers from marriageable pool, yet they still bring costs to families.

    I have once read that Saudi royal family, who breeds among themselves, has uncontrollably exploded and is eating more and more revenues of Saudi Arabia - this is the reality of cousin marriage if there are no controls at all. In other words, cousin marriage is not preserving wealth, it is eating it (just state's wealth in this example).


    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church.
     
    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces. Earlier there was Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told - propagated "free love" as a way to increase worker's output (no need to expand energy for love, if love is free; energy is needed in industrial plants!)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    Saudi royal family can rely on the wealth of Saudi Arabia. However, if they had to rely on their own family wealth, they would be effectively eating it, not preserving it.
    Perhaps for this reason we know of no generations-old rich families from cousin-marrying cultures.

  944. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.
     
    That would make sense only if "wealth" was land-based and providing living for an entire family. However, it would presuppose really iron rules of inheritance and as far as I know they not as iron as the rule of cousin marriage is, whereas they should be more iron than the cousin marriage as the enforcer of the latter. There are other solutions: in Europe the institution of majorat was introduced in order not to divide landed property.

    Otherwise, if our poor family has no land but just one riksha, are we really to enforce a life-long cousin marriage in order to retain this troubled riksha in our family??!


    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.
     
    Rarely it can work like that. Nevertheless, if just a single generation would be unevenly split (5 brothers on one side and 5 brothers on another), that would generate the need of 10 girls in the family, and would immediately explode the family in future, forsaking the preservation of wealth due to higher number of people! Plus, generational cousin marriage results in ~20% probability of severe diseases which exclude bearers from marriageable pool, yet they still bring costs to families.

    I have once read that Saudi royal family, who breeds among themselves, has uncontrollably exploded and is eating more and more revenues of Saudi Arabia - this is the reality of cousin marriage if there are no controls at all. In other words, cousin marriage is not preserving wealth, it is eating it (just state's wealth in this example).


    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church.
     
    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces. Earlier there was Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told - propagated "free love" as a way to increase worker's output (no need to expand energy for love, if love is free; energy is needed in industrial plants!)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    My female cousins ended up decent looking but when I was a teenager the thought of mating with them was hideous. There may be biological mechanisms (very good biological mechanisms!) at work there. I cannot imagine how even more my teenage years would have totally sucked if I was under some stupid stricture of eventual marriage to one of those girls. The thought of it makes my stomach tumble a little even now–that is the level of visceral repugnance.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    My female cousins ended up decent looking but when I was a teenager the thought of mating with them was hideous. There may be biological mechanisms (very good biological mechanisms!) at work there.
     
    That’s not biological, most likely social indoctrination. Imagine meeting one of them without knowing that she is your cousin. To an unselective (sex-deprived) teenager the idea of mating with that girl won’t feel hideous.

    Even brother-sister sex is not as rare as the society wants you to think, although biologically producing progeny with your sister is very bad.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

  945. @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    Just look at the latest news from the front lines. Then consider domino effect.

    Explain that for us given that Russia is throwing meat waves to take Avdiivka and temperatures are getting frigid. What domino effect exactly are you suggesting if it is taking Russia this much effort to capture a small city?

    Kiev regime’s goose is cooked. The clown and many of his ilk will run away to those they consider their masters. Most likely they will be then “suicided” by their masters, like Berezovsky: nobody keeps a condom after it’s been used. Will serve them right.

    The same claim was made 48 hours after the war started. The 2.5 week special military operation is now on day 672. Two of the pro-Putin bloggers at Unz no longer speak of him. One hasn't blogged in months. At the start of the war we had numerous bloggers quoting MacGregor/Ritter and declaring that Ukraine is doomed. They are now silent but you believe Ukraine is doomed....again?

    Explain why you think the government of Kiev is about to flee when Putin has signaled that he is willing to accept the current lines.

    Replies: @Sean

    Putin has signaled that he is willing to accept the current lines.

    Eventually he might implicitly accept whatever the lines are at that point in the future. Wherever the lines are by then if Putin were to recognise lines to the east or west or the same as the current ones as the borders of Ukraine and Ukraine agreed then Ukraine as a country not in any dispute over its territory would be theoretically eligible to join NATO. I think Putin will cease actual hostilities eventually, but he will have zero incentive to sign a peace treaty or recognise the borders of even a rump Ukraine.

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Sean

    If you look at the reporting of Ukraine war by Western MSM, you are reminded that, according to the model of the five stages of grief, those experiencing grief go through five emotions: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. The West was in denial in the Spring of 2023 before flopped Ukrainian “counter-offensive”. Western pro-Ukie commenters are divided now between bargaining and depression stages. Stay tuned.

    , @John Johnson
    @Sean

    I think Putin will cease actual hostilities eventually, but he will have zero incentive to sign a peace treaty or recognize the borders of even a rump Ukraine.

    He has plenty of incentive. The longer the war drags out the harder it will be for Roosan State TV to convince the public they are winning. Russian elections may be fixed but history suggests that it's a bad idea to be an unpopular Tsar. Putin also cares about his legacy and at this point will gladly take his "mission accomplished" banner while knowing his TV pundits won't speak of the original goals.

    Russia's actual inflation rate could be as high as 40% for foodstuff and other basic items. They again raised interest rates a few weeks ago which shows that they don't know what to do. They're just copying a Western response without understanding the actual problem. This isn't merely a case of demand outstripping supply. They have a hole in their labor market. When you remove rural men from farms and factories it destabilizes the economy. I'm not going to explain how to solve this problem but it doesn't involve aping a Western solution to a peacetime economy that can take a year to even work.

    Putin is clearly under pressure to end the war as seen by the meat attacks against Avdiivka. That isn't the action of someone that can play a long game. They just launched an unsupported infantry attack which is unreal. We are getting closer to my joke of them using horses.

    Replies: @Sean

  946. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Another Polish Perspective

    My female cousins ended up decent looking but when I was a teenager the thought of mating with them was hideous. There may be biological mechanisms (very good biological mechanisms!) at work there. I cannot imagine how even more my teenage years would have totally sucked if I was under some stupid stricture of eventual marriage to one of those girls. The thought of it makes my stomach tumble a little even now--that is the level of visceral repugnance.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    My female cousins ended up decent looking but when I was a teenager the thought of mating with them was hideous. There may be biological mechanisms (very good biological mechanisms!) at work there.

    That’s not biological, most likely social indoctrination. Imagine meeting one of them without knowing that she is your cousin. To an unselective (sex-deprived) teenager the idea of mating with that girl won’t feel hideous.

    Even brother-sister sex is not as rare as the society wants you to think, although biologically producing progeny with your sister is very bad.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @AnonfromTN

    How's your mom look?

    The social indoctrination and taboos are to discourage end member perverts. Shagging your relatives ain't natural and most of us don't need instructions. The bulk of my social conditioning was that social conditioning was a tool of the evil patriarchy and to be resisted. I had no inhibition of desire for attractive negro girls at all.

    Later I learned that this was a desire to be resisted.

    Muslims and Rothschilds and Hapsburgs marrying their cousins is fucked up.

  947. @Sean
    @AnonfromTN

    I think the best analogy to the current conflict in Ukraine is the Korean war. In my view there is unlikely to be a clear cut result

    Replies: @QCIC, @AnonfromTN, @Mikhail

    Korean War saw America and other supporting boots on the ground. The Russian SMO is noticeably different. Comparatively speaking, the US Civil War and Soviet-Finnish War are much better military analogies.

    Russia will prevail. The main issues are when and what Ukraine’s diminished configuration will be.

  948. @Sean
    @QCIC

    The Korean war has never officially ended and because it would leave Ukraine free to join Nato, the war in Ukraine ending by explicit peace agreement would be a disaster for Russia's interests as the Russian leadership see them.

    Why on earth would Putin agree to a treaty that would mean Ukraine had no territorial disputes and could therefore join NATO. The best outcome for Russia now is to takes most of the land up to the Dnieper and then decline to sign any peace treaty even though the actual fighting slowly fades.


    The military industrial complex needed Russia to be a peer competitor so it was portrayed as such. The man in the Kremlin considers the cost of those results the Russian army is actually able to achieve as worth it and cannot be convinced to order a cession of hostilities. Russia sees neutralising Ukraine's Washington alliance aspirations by an endless official state of war as the objective.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    I think that Russia was way better off economically and even militarily before this stupid war was started. Free trade with the West, including western businesses busily at work within Russia employing Russians, was a win win for everyone. If this weren’t so, Putler wouldn’t be continually moaning to have western sanctions removed. Think about it, NS2 would have been a very big deal for Russia, and today? Militarily, Russia had the 2nd greatest military in the world, and today? The laughing stock of the world. And all signs seem to indicate that Russia is quickly spinning out of control, down a rabbit hole of no return:

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Keep deluding yourself. Since 2/24/22, the economies of the collective West haven't held as well as Russia's. Russia's armed forces is stronger now than before 2/24/22. The Kiev regime can't honestly say the same. Putin hasn't been moaning about Western sanctions. Macron among others acknowledge they've failed.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/589516-macron-russia-sanctions-fail/

    Recalling Ben Hodges saying that Crimea will be taken by the end of the year. Now he babbles about how the Kiev regime should do what Germany did in 1944. .

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW

    , @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    I think Putin regret his lack of impetuosity in 2015, when he was holding all the cards. The West--America most of all--is supposed to represent the single locus ever more sophisticated future progress, so Russia to cut itself off from into those developments, yet whether the Chinese system is a failure or it is going to be America getting overtaken and ending up like Soviet system remains to be seen. Quite possibly China will become comparable to America in power within Putin's lifetime.

    Evidently Putin saw the situation Russia was in before the invasion as seriously bad but he attempted to maintain flexibility in his foreign policy for too long. He was indecisive about what to do about Ukraine until quite late in the run up to the SNO judging by the pre invasion televised conference when the foreign intelligence chief's waffling made clear he hadn't been told what was happening mere weeks before the operation stated.

    Most likely Putin was counting on sabre rattling to extract concessions and then was confronted with the prospect of backing down, or going ahead with an undersized force (he probably thought Kiev would give after the invasion started). I think the worst grand strategic outcome of the war for Russia is losing its freedom of action in regards to China. All Russia's eggs are firmly in the Chinese basket now, although that may be not such a bad place to have them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  949. @AP
    @Beckow


    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy.
     
    My comment had nothing to do with pure blood. Once again you reveal more about yourself than say anything about me. Do thoughts of pure blood come into your mind so easily because of the Nazis your Slovaks so eagerly served?

    I didn't mention or discuss anything about purity, I pointed out that Russia in rather unique in how it is basically a project of foreigners who rule over Eastern Slavs, using a despotic political framework inherited from Mongol rulers/teachers that is very good at internal exploitation.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others
     
    French elite have historically been Frenchman, who themselves are a mixture of Gauls, Franks, and Romans (more of the latter in the south).

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite
     
    The closest parallel to Russia would be the situation when the English elite were Norman conquerors. But this happened once, 1,000 years ago, and did not repeat.

    In Russia, however, it has been an ingrained part of history. The very name Russia is derived from Norse and Wendish overlords who forced Eastern Slavs to give them furs, grin, honey to sell and even sold the Eastern Slavs themselves as slaves.

    So the first part of Russian history involved about a dozen branches of a Norse ruling family and their retinues, consisting of mostly Norsemen and some Wends. Then the Mongols came, provided the political culture, and added Tatars and Mongols to the mix of foreigners ruling Eastern Slavs. This was the traditional Muscovite state. Who ruled all those Eastern Slavs? Russian historian Vernadsky provided a survey:

    229 of Western European (including German) origin, 223 of Polish and Lithuanian origin (this number included Ruthenian nobility), 156 of Tatar and other Oriental origins, 168 families belonged to the House of Rurik and 42 were of unspecified "Russian" origin.

    Peter the Great reformed the state and added a sea of Baltic Germans and other Western people to the mix of the ruling class who were non-Eastern Slavs, ruling Eastern Slavs. Eventually even his own ruling line was replaced by Germans.

    The Bolsheviks of course swept them all away, after the Revolution it was now the turn of Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians to rule over Eastern Slavs. They went much further and were far more brutal than their predecessors, they killed millions of them. Still, the Russian people love their cruel Georgian master.

    Such is the historical pattern of Russia: non Eastern-Slavs ruling Eastern Slavs.

    While other places had foreign ruling families (Germans in England) or a foreign ruling class immediately after a conquest, no other place consistently, century after century, had an entire ruling class that was so different in origin from the masses they ruled. An internal colonial system. Prussian Junkers were - Germans. Polish szlachta were - Poles. Same for France, Italy, etc. Ukrainian elites, such as they were, were mostly Eastern Slavs. But Russia's elites were largely families of Baltic German, Tatar, Lithuanian, etc. origins. Some had ancient East Slavic boyar origins, but they were just a part of the mix.

    To the extent that this is true in modern Ukraine, it is a product of Russian cultural influence. And naturally is not true of the least Russified parts of the country.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs
     
    Franz Josef was normal-looking and not inbred, same for Karl. Did you know that Slovakia was not part of Spain?

    But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.
     
    I'll return the sentiment.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    …My comment had nothing to do with pure blood.

    No, your comment is all about pure blood…the usual obsessive cherrypicking of unprovable 1,000 year old minutia. Normans in England? Noooo…but Vikings in Russia? Yeees…do you even see your pathological biases? Your Hollywood view of the “heroic knight” past is a fantasy, with the ongoing Kiev collapse you need something to hold on to.

    Your primitive hatred of anything “Russian” is sad. To go to 1,000 year old history and repeat idiotic Hitler fairy-tales shows weakness and insecurity. But that’s you, the leopard will not change his spots.

    In any case, Habsburgs were retards and Franz Joseph was the premier one: a piece of degenerate sh..t who ruined Central Europe. Even Austria – his home country – banned all Habsburgs from even stepping on the Austrian territory after 1918… Everyone at his time other than your Galician brown-nosing “relatives” knew it.

    Merry Christmas…you got the Ukie Orthodox now to change the Church Calendar to be more like the West, what’s next? Changing the alphabet and maybe forcefully renaming people? Good one, this must go over really well in the more traditional countryside.

    Last and only time it was done was by the Nazis in 1941 – it s quite a circus now: Nazi instincts, desperation, with the smarter rats abandoning the ship. What a sh..t-show…maybe a bit more “Viking ” blood would make the Ukies less pathetic. Is it too late for that?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Beckow


    No, your comment is all about pure blood
     
    It was not. Why your obsession with this idea?

    usual obsessive cherrypicking of unprovable 1,000 year old minutia
     
    The fact that Russia is in essence a project in which non-Eastern Slavs rule over Eastern Slavs is well proven and hardly minutia.

    Your primitive hatred of anything “Russian” is sad

     

    Another sick fantasy of yours. While I am no fan of Russia invading and killing Ukraine I certainly don’t hate “anything Russian.” Moscow remains my favorite city in the world, I adore its theater, I have close Russian family and friends.

    You who support a war in which 100,000s Eastern Slavs are killing each other because Putin chose to invade Ukraine are far more anti-Russian in a practical sense than I am.

    Is your support of this a reflection of your peoples servitude toward anti-Slavic Magyars or the more recent Nazis whom your people allied to?

    In any case, Habsburgs were retards and Franz Joseph was the premier one: a piece of degenerate sh..t who ruined Central Europe

     

    Lol, the best things in your country happened under his rule, which is why you hate him. Well, your Magyar masters didn’t like him too much. Neither did the Nazis. It is clear why you dislike him.

    abandoning the ship
     
    Speaking of ships….

    :-)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  950. @AnonfromTN
    @Emil Nikola Richard


    My female cousins ended up decent looking but when I was a teenager the thought of mating with them was hideous. There may be biological mechanisms (very good biological mechanisms!) at work there.
     
    That’s not biological, most likely social indoctrination. Imagine meeting one of them without knowing that she is your cousin. To an unselective (sex-deprived) teenager the idea of mating with that girl won’t feel hideous.

    Even brother-sister sex is not as rare as the society wants you to think, although biologically producing progeny with your sister is very bad.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    How’s your mom look?

    The social indoctrination and taboos are to discourage end member perverts. Shagging your relatives ain’t natural and most of us don’t need instructions. The bulk of my social conditioning was that social conditioning was a tool of the evil patriarchy and to be resisted. I had no inhibition of desire for attractive negro girls at all.

    Later I learned that this was a desire to be resisted.

    Muslims and Rothschilds and Hapsburgs marrying their cousins is fucked up.

  951. @Mr. Hack
    @Sean

    I think that Russia was way better off economically and even militarily before this stupid war was started. Free trade with the West, including western businesses busily at work within Russia employing Russians, was a win win for everyone. If this weren't so, Putler wouldn't be continually moaning to have western sanctions removed. Think about it, NS2 would have been a very big deal for Russia, and today? Militarily, Russia had the 2nd greatest military in the world, and today? The laughing stock of the world. And all signs seem to indicate that Russia is quickly spinning out of control, down a rabbit hole of no return:

    https://youtu.be/gzKqxgaRYpI

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Sean

    Keep deluding yourself. Since 2/24/22, the economies of the collective West haven’t held as well as Russia’s. Russia’s armed forces is stronger now than before 2/24/22. The Kiev regime can’t honestly say the same. Putin hasn’t been moaning about Western sanctions. Macron among others acknowledge they’ve failed.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/589516-macron-russia-sanctions-fail/

    Recalling Ben Hodges saying that Crimea will be taken by the end of the year. Now he babbles about how the Kiev regime should do what Germany did in 1944. .

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Keep deluding yourself.
     
    Those unwilling to see will remain blind. Nothing new there.

    Top seven economies by PPP in descending order: China, USA, India, Japan, Russia, Germany, Indonesia.

    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023. US-inspired sanctions had two objectives: damage Russian and European economies. They were 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    , @LatW
    @Mikhail

    They were given a fraction of what they requested (and no air cover). Are you following what is happening with the Russian Black Sea fleet? All the ships are now in Novorossiysk, hiding there, and yesterday in Feodosia the Ukes burned a ship.

    Incredible work, if you think about it.

    Replies: @Mikhail

  952. @Another Polish Perspective
    @AnonfromTN


    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.
     
    That would make sense only if "wealth" was land-based and providing living for an entire family. However, it would presuppose really iron rules of inheritance and as far as I know they not as iron as the rule of cousin marriage is, whereas they should be more iron than the cousin marriage as the enforcer of the latter. There are other solutions: in Europe the institution of majorat was introduced in order not to divide landed property.

    Otherwise, if our poor family has no land but just one riksha, are we really to enforce a life-long cousin marriage in order to retain this troubled riksha in our family??!


    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.
     
    Rarely it can work like that. Nevertheless, if just a single generation would be unevenly split (5 brothers on one side and 5 brothers on another), that would generate the need of 10 girls in the family, and would immediately explode the family in future, forsaking the preservation of wealth due to higher number of people! Plus, generational cousin marriage results in ~20% probability of severe diseases which exclude bearers from marriageable pool, yet they still bring costs to families.

    I have once read that Saudi royal family, who breeds among themselves, has uncontrollably exploded and is eating more and more revenues of Saudi Arabia - this is the reality of cousin marriage if there are no controls at all. In other words, cousin marriage is not preserving wealth, it is eating it (just state's wealth in this example).


    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church.
     
    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces. Earlier there was Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told - propagated "free love" as a way to increase worker's output (no need to expand energy for love, if love is free; energy is needed in industrial plants!)

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Emil Nikola Richard, @AnonfromTN

    Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told – propagated “free love”

    I wouldn’t take her too seriously, I guess she had an ax to grind.

    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces.

    The idea of free love was based Marx’ conclusion that family appeared in human society along with private property to preserve the latter (so that only your progeny can inherit your wealth). This idea had only fringe support among Bolsheviks. The supporters argued that the need for sex is as natural as a need to drink water. Lenin, who had no religious education (no formal education beyond school, for that matter), countered by saying that even though you need to drink water, you won’t drink from a dirty puddle.

    As soon as Bolsheviks took power they instituted an official procedure of registering marriage (with the state, bypassing the church) long before Stalin became the ruler. In that they were prudes (you can say more catholic than the Pope).

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN


    The idea of free love was based Marx’ conclusion that family appeared in human society along with private property to preserve the latter (so that only your progeny can inherit your wealth). This idea had only fringe support among Bolsheviks. The supporters argued that the need for sex is as natural as a need to drink water. Lenin, who had no religious education (no formal education beyond school, for that matter), countered by saying that even though you need to drink water, you won’t drink from a dirty puddle.

     

    Free love only makes sense if one is not financially on the hook for any resulting illegitimate children, no? But AFAIK, the Bolsheviks were very much in favor of forcing people to pay child support for their illegitimate children, even retroactively.
  953. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Putin has signaled that he is willing to accept the current lines.
     
    Eventually he might implicitly accept whatever the lines are at that point in the future. Wherever the lines are by then if Putin were to recognise lines to the east or west or the same as the current ones as the borders of Ukraine and Ukraine agreed then Ukraine as a country not in any dispute over its territory would be theoretically eligible to join NATO. I think Putin will cease actual hostilities eventually, but he will have zero incentive to sign a peace treaty or recognise the borders of even a rump Ukraine.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    If you look at the reporting of Ukraine war by Western MSM, you are reminded that, according to the model of the five stages of grief, those experiencing grief go through five emotions: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. The West was in denial in the Spring of 2023 before flopped Ukrainian “counter-offensive”. Western pro-Ukie commenters are divided now between bargaining and depression stages. Stay tuned.

  954. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Keep deluding yourself. Since 2/24/22, the economies of the collective West haven't held as well as Russia's. Russia's armed forces is stronger now than before 2/24/22. The Kiev regime can't honestly say the same. Putin hasn't been moaning about Western sanctions. Macron among others acknowledge they've failed.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/589516-macron-russia-sanctions-fail/

    Recalling Ben Hodges saying that Crimea will be taken by the end of the year. Now he babbles about how the Kiev regime should do what Germany did in 1944. .

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW

    Keep deluding yourself.

    Those unwilling to see will remain blind. Nothing new there.

    Top seven economies by PPP in descending order: China, USA, India, Japan, Russia, Germany, Indonesia.

    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023. US-inspired sanctions had two objectives: damage Russian and European economies. They were 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain.

    • Replies: @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023
     
    Russian economy shrank 2.1% in 2022 and government projections range from 2.8% to 3.5% in 2023.

    So at best, it is 1.4% improvement 2022-2023.

    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    German GDP grew 1.8% in 2022 and is expected to decline by .4% in 2023.

    French GDP grew 2.5% in 2022 and is expected to grow .8% in 2023.

    Europe is going down the drain.
     
    Well, since the war began, under the most optimistic projections for Russia, it's economy has performed about the same as Germany’s and worse than both the UK and France.

    Do you believe Europeans won’t have gas or food this winter? Did you believe that last winter?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @Mr. XYZ

    , @John Johnson
    @AnonfromTN

    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023. US-inspired sanctions had two objectives: damage Russian and European economies. They were 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain.

    No one knows Russia's actual GDP. It is undoubtedly smaller once you remove the increase in military spending.

    War is normally bad for the economy unless it is quick and the spoils can be decisively acquired. The Nazi war on Western Europe was profitable because they were able to loot the gold and art of neighboring countries. Once they went East it was a complete drain. This is why Hitler's top economist did not want them to attack Russia. Hitler of course ignored him and largely made the decision to attack based on feelings of superiority and not economic analysis.

    Putin's attack on Ukraine was similarly made on feels. He declared in 2014 that he could take Kiev in 2 weeks if he wanted to. Well that obviously didn't work.

    Russia is going to be in the economic trap where they have to keep spending to keep the economy stable. There is no Ukraine state bank filled with gold that they will be able to loot. Donbas has billions in coal but it will take years to recoup. We are already seeing lines in Russia for eggs which is a very bad sign. Eggs are something that can be produced without much startup costs and yet there is a shortage. Another year of war and we could easily see Soviet style lines for government food rations. I was skeptical of "Fortress Russia" claims but even this has surprised me. I expected shortages in Western parts/computer chips but not eggs. I'm also surprised by the shortages in small arms. I really thought they had endless warehouses of AK-74s and ammo. The AK-47 is the default conscript weapon and it sounds like they are limited on magazines.

  955. @AP
    @Beckow


    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy.
     
    My comment had nothing to do with pure blood. Once again you reveal more about yourself than say anything about me. Do thoughts of pure blood come into your mind so easily because of the Nazis your Slovaks so eagerly served?

    I didn't mention or discuss anything about purity, I pointed out that Russia in rather unique in how it is basically a project of foreigners who rule over Eastern Slavs, using a despotic political framework inherited from Mongol rulers/teachers that is very good at internal exploitation.

    French elite is a mix of barbarian Germans and Flemish with Italians-Romans and a lot of others
     
    French elite have historically been Frenchman, who themselves are a mixture of Gauls, Franks, and Romans (more of the latter in the south).

    English upper class was first the French-Scandie elite
     
    The closest parallel to Russia would be the situation when the English elite were Norman conquerors. But this happened once, 1,000 years ago, and did not repeat.

    In Russia, however, it has been an ingrained part of history. The very name Russia is derived from Norse and Wendish overlords who forced Eastern Slavs to give them furs, grin, honey to sell and even sold the Eastern Slavs themselves as slaves.

    So the first part of Russian history involved about a dozen branches of a Norse ruling family and their retinues, consisting of mostly Norsemen and some Wends. Then the Mongols came, provided the political culture, and added Tatars and Mongols to the mix of foreigners ruling Eastern Slavs. This was the traditional Muscovite state. Who ruled all those Eastern Slavs? Russian historian Vernadsky provided a survey:

    229 of Western European (including German) origin, 223 of Polish and Lithuanian origin (this number included Ruthenian nobility), 156 of Tatar and other Oriental origins, 168 families belonged to the House of Rurik and 42 were of unspecified "Russian" origin.

    Peter the Great reformed the state and added a sea of Baltic Germans and other Western people to the mix of the ruling class who were non-Eastern Slavs, ruling Eastern Slavs. Eventually even his own ruling line was replaced by Germans.

    The Bolsheviks of course swept them all away, after the Revolution it was now the turn of Caucasians, Jews, and Latvians to rule over Eastern Slavs. They went much further and were far more brutal than their predecessors, they killed millions of them. Still, the Russian people love their cruel Georgian master.

    Such is the historical pattern of Russia: non Eastern-Slavs ruling Eastern Slavs.

    While other places had foreign ruling families (Germans in England) or a foreign ruling class immediately after a conquest, no other place consistently, century after century, had an entire ruling class that was so different in origin from the masses they ruled. An internal colonial system. Prussian Junkers were - Germans. Polish szlachta were - Poles. Same for France, Italy, etc. Ukrainian elites, such as they were, were mostly Eastern Slavs. But Russia's elites were largely families of Baltic German, Tatar, Lithuanian, etc. origins. Some had ancient East Slavic boyar origins, but they were just a part of the mix.

    To the extent that this is true in modern Ukraine, it is a product of Russian cultural influence. And naturally is not true of the least Russified parts of the country.

    If you want to see some real in-breeding Google pictures of Habsburgs
     
    Franz Josef was normal-looking and not inbred, same for Karl. Did you know that Slovakia was not part of Spain?

    But it is Christmas, so I wish you all the best since 2024 could be a tough year.
     
    I'll return the sentiment.

    Replies: @Beckow, @Mr. XYZ

    In Russia, however, it has been an ingrained part of history. The very name Russia is derived from Norse and Wendish overlords who forced Eastern Slavs to give them furs, grin, honey to sell and even sold the Eastern Slavs themselves as slaves.

    Yep, AFAIK “Rus” means “rowers” in Old Norse.

    BTW, did you see and read those Lothrop Stoddard passages about Russia from 1924 that I have previously posted here? The man was a notorious racist and segregationist, but he nevertheless had a keen eye when it came to geopolitics.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ


    ...Lothrop Stoddard about Russia...the man was a notorious racist and segregationist, but he nevertheless had a keen eye when it came to geopolitics.
     
    I assume that "keen eye" in your world means that they hated Russia. So did Hitler, Napoleon, Churchill, and a few other mass murderers, all had a keen eye for Russia as did Stoddard. Thus they are by definition a good source of objective analysis of Russia.

    The geopolitics they all shared was sadly quite bumpy: in spite of the above-mentioned keen eye they all lost badly and their plans came to nothing. Maybe if they used both eyes and spent less time dreaming over maps after dinner they would avoid the defeats.

    It seems like it is something in the water in the West, the idiotic self-deception about the evil</ Russia. Or possibly it is in that "pure blood" that AP goes on and on...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

  956. @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Keep deluding yourself. Since 2/24/22, the economies of the collective West haven't held as well as Russia's. Russia's armed forces is stronger now than before 2/24/22. The Kiev regime can't honestly say the same. Putin hasn't been moaning about Western sanctions. Macron among others acknowledge they've failed.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/589516-macron-russia-sanctions-fail/

    Recalling Ben Hodges saying that Crimea will be taken by the end of the year. Now he babbles about how the Kiev regime should do what Germany did in 1944. .

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW

    They were given a fraction of what they requested (and no air cover). Are you following what is happening with the Russian Black Sea fleet? All the ships are now in Novorossiysk, hiding there, and yesterday in Feodosia the Ukes burned a ship.

    Incredible work, if you think about it.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @LatW

    The Germans after Stalingrad, Kursk and Normandy were still able to do some "incredible work" against the Allies. Kiev regime never had a chance.

  957. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    In fact, it is most popular among the poor.
     
    That actually supports my view: when there is little wealth, you don’t want to divide it.

    cousin marriage is quite popular among Fergana Valley peoples, people who were living in Soviet Union for a long time – I would think that cousin marriage or any substantial dowry would be banned then.
     
    Soviet law prohibited both dowry and paying for the bride (which means, in effect, buying a girl from her parents). However, in real life both practices were common in Soviet Central Asia. I know for a fact from girls from that region that payments for the bride went all the way up to 10,000 rubles (in that period this was roughly the price of the best Soviet car, Volga, so by buying power it is equivalent to ~$100,000 in today’s US). Some Central Asian women were proud that their husbands were willing to pay so much for them. Apparently, they did not object to being sold like a commodity.

    We had some Central Asian girls in my years at the Moscow State University. They avoided the boys from the region, like a plague. They willingly went for anyone who was not from the region, even those other girls considered unattractive. Apparently, women with some education desperately wanted to get out of Central Asian culture and away from the clutches of their families/clans. Now I understand them well.


    if my brother has 5 sons, I must have 5 daughters
     
    Simple math: if your brother has just one son, you only need one daughter.

    Christianity is an universal religion
     
    Christianity always tried to achieve domination to the point of monopolizing the society. Hence the wars. In that sense it’s akin to the communist ideology in the USSR. That explains the hostility of early communists towards the church: crush the competition mentality. Yet in their attempts of maximum expansion both Christianity and communist ideology tended to absorb local customs and mores.

    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church. If you were caught cheating on your wife/husband, in the USSR you were not allowed to go abroad (even to Warsaw Pact countries) and could be kicked out of the party. If you were career-oriented, this was a huge setback, basically killing you prospects.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @Mr. XYZ

    BTW, as far as marriage and infidelity go, communists were just as conservative as the strictest adherents of the church. If you were caught cheating on your wife/husband, in the USSR you were not allowed to go abroad (even to Warsaw Pact countries) and could be kicked out of the party. If you were career-oriented, this was a huge setback, basically killing you prospects.

    What about if the marriage was open (non-monogamous) by the mutual consent of both spouses? No difference to the Communists?

  958. @AnonfromTN
    @Another Polish Perspective


    Alexandra Kollontaj (what a Polish name, hm! but allegedly not Polish at all) who-I was told – propagated “free love”
     
    I wouldn’t take her too seriously, I guess she had an ax to grind.

    I heard that it started with Stalin rule. Maybe Stalin early clergy education had somehow left traces.
     
    The idea of free love was based Marx’ conclusion that family appeared in human society along with private property to preserve the latter (so that only your progeny can inherit your wealth). This idea had only fringe support among Bolsheviks. The supporters argued that the need for sex is as natural as a need to drink water. Lenin, who had no religious education (no formal education beyond school, for that matter), countered by saying that even though you need to drink water, you won’t drink from a dirty puddle.

    As soon as Bolsheviks took power they instituted an official procedure of registering marriage (with the state, bypassing the church) long before Stalin became the ruler. In that they were prudes (you can say more catholic than the Pope).

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    The idea of free love was based Marx’ conclusion that family appeared in human society along with private property to preserve the latter (so that only your progeny can inherit your wealth). This idea had only fringe support among Bolsheviks. The supporters argued that the need for sex is as natural as a need to drink water. Lenin, who had no religious education (no formal education beyond school, for that matter), countered by saying that even though you need to drink water, you won’t drink from a dirty puddle.

    Free love only makes sense if one is not financially on the hook for any resulting illegitimate children, no? But AFAIK, the Bolsheviks were very much in favor of forcing people to pay child support for their illegitimate children, even retroactively.

  959. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    In Russia, however, it has been an ingrained part of history. The very name Russia is derived from Norse and Wendish overlords who forced Eastern Slavs to give them furs, grin, honey to sell and even sold the Eastern Slavs themselves as slaves.

     

    Yep, AFAIK "Rus" means "rowers" in Old Norse.

    BTW, did you see and read those Lothrop Stoddard passages about Russia from 1924 that I have previously posted here? The man was a notorious racist and segregationist, but he nevertheless had a keen eye when it came to geopolitics.

    Replies: @Beckow

    …Lothrop Stoddard about Russia…the man was a notorious racist and segregationist, but he nevertheless had a keen eye when it came to geopolitics.

    I assume that “keen eye” in your world means that they hated Russia. So did Hitler, Napoleon, Churchill, and a few other mass murderers, all had a keen eye for Russia as did Stoddard. Thus they are by definition a good source of objective analysis of Russia.

    The geopolitics they all shared was sadly quite bumpy: in spite of the above-mentioned keen eye they all lost badly and their plans came to nothing. Maybe if they used both eyes and spent less time dreaming over maps after dinner they would avoid the defeats.

    It seems like it is something in the water in the West, the idiotic self-deception about the evil</ Russia. Or possibly it is in that "pure blood" that AP goes on and on…

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    It seems like it is something in the water in the West, the idiotic self-deception about the evil</ Russia.
     
    This tradition is several centuries old. The West feared and loathed The Russian Empire, then the USSR, now the RF. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    One thing actually changed: the feelings of Russian citizens about the West. The admirers of the West (among people who knew that something exists beyond their village) were fairly numerous in the Russian Empire (Peter the Great is an example), as well as in the USSR, but now their numbers are rapidly dwindling. In 5-10 years mutual loathing will be equal.

    The advantage of Russians is that they don’t fear the West one bit. Whatever fear was there is gone now, when burnt out hulks of Western wonder-weapons litter the fields in Eastern Ukraine. The funniest thing is about German tanks, which they keep naming after big cats: dead Leopards litter the same territories where dead Hitler’s Tigers and Panthers were rusting before.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  960. Does anyone else agree that East Asian creativity seems very formulaic? Like 80-90% of Japan’s cultural output, internationally known at least, is anime/manga and RPG games all which follow a very particular style.

    Same with South Korea, K-Pop is very popular and famous around the world but again it seems extremely formulaic, all groups are either girl bands or boy bands and they churn out very similar songs with similar dance routines.

    I’m not saying it never happens, but it’s rare anything truly different or innovative culturally comes out of Japan or South Korea. They have their own particular styles and formulas and they stick strongly to them the vast majority of the time, and they do have their fans, a lot of them, but you kinda know exactly what you’re going to get from those countries.

    I’m sure many would argue that US/UK music, films and computer games are also formulaic and samey, and I agree to a certain extent but I think it is to a lesser extent than in East Asia. I think in the US/UK there are a lot of artists genuinely trying to be different and stand out in away that rarely happens in East Asian culture.

  961. @Beckow
    @Mr. XYZ


    ...Lothrop Stoddard about Russia...the man was a notorious racist and segregationist, but he nevertheless had a keen eye when it came to geopolitics.
     
    I assume that "keen eye" in your world means that they hated Russia. So did Hitler, Napoleon, Churchill, and a few other mass murderers, all had a keen eye for Russia as did Stoddard. Thus they are by definition a good source of objective analysis of Russia.

    The geopolitics they all shared was sadly quite bumpy: in spite of the above-mentioned keen eye they all lost badly and their plans came to nothing. Maybe if they used both eyes and spent less time dreaming over maps after dinner they would avoid the defeats.

    It seems like it is something in the water in the West, the idiotic self-deception about the evil</ Russia. Or possibly it is in that "pure blood" that AP goes on and on...

    Replies: @AnonfromTN

    It seems like it is something in the water in the West, the idiotic self-deception about the evil</ Russia.

    This tradition is several centuries old. The West feared and loathed The Russian Empire, then the USSR, now the RF. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    One thing actually changed: the feelings of Russian citizens about the West. The admirers of the West (among people who knew that something exists beyond their village) were fairly numerous in the Russian Empire (Peter the Great is an example), as well as in the USSR, but now their numbers are rapidly dwindling. In 5-10 years mutual loathing will be equal.

    The advantage of Russians is that they don’t fear the West one bit. Whatever fear was there is gone now, when burnt out hulks of Western wonder-weapons litter the fields in Eastern Ukraine. The funniest thing is about German tanks, which they keep naming after big cats: dead Leopards litter the same territories where dead Hitler’s Tigers and Panthers were rusting before.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AnonfromTN


    One thing actually changed: the feelings of Russian citizens about the West. The admirers of the West (among people who knew that something exists beyond their village) were fairly numerous in the Russian Empire (Peter the Great is an example), as well as in the USSR, but now their numbers are rapidly dwindling. In 5-10 years mutual loathing will be equal.
     
    Russians had a complex love-loathe relationship with the West for a very long time now.
  962. @Beckow
    @AP


    ...My comment had nothing to do with pure blood.
     
    No, your comment is all about pure blood...the usual obsessive cherrypicking of unprovable 1,000 year old minutia. Normans in England? Noooo...but Vikings in Russia? Yeees...do you even see your pathological biases? Your Hollywood view of the "heroic knight" past is a fantasy, with the ongoing Kiev collapse you need something to hold on to.

    Your primitive hatred of anything "Russian" is sad. To go to 1,000 year old history and repeat idiotic Hitler fairy-tales shows weakness and insecurity. But that's you, the leopard will not change his spots.

    In any case, Habsburgs were retards and Franz Joseph was the premier one: a piece of degenerate sh..t who ruined Central Europe. Even Austria - his home country - banned all Habsburgs from even stepping on the Austrian territory after 1918... Everyone at his time other than your Galician brown-nosing "relatives" knew it.

    Merry Christmas...you got the Ukie Orthodox now to change the Church Calendar to be more like the West, what's next? Changing the alphabet and maybe forcefully renaming people? Good one, this must go over really well in the more traditional countryside.

    Last and only time it was done was by the Nazis in 1941 - it s quite a circus now: Nazi instincts, desperation, with the smarter rats abandoning the ship. What a sh..t-show...maybe a bit more "Viking " blood would make the Ukies less pathetic. Is it too late for that?

    Replies: @AP

    No, your comment is all about pure blood

    It was not. Why your obsession with this idea?

    usual obsessive cherrypicking of unprovable 1,000 year old minutia

    The fact that Russia is in essence a project in which non-Eastern Slavs rule over Eastern Slavs is well proven and hardly minutia.

    Your primitive hatred of anything “Russian” is sad

    Another sick fantasy of yours. While I am no fan of Russia invading and killing Ukraine I certainly don’t hate “anything Russian.” Moscow remains my favorite city in the world, I adore its theater, I have close Russian family and friends.

    You who support a war in which 100,000s Eastern Slavs are killing each other because Putin chose to invade Ukraine are far more anti-Russian in a practical sense than I am.

    Is your support of this a reflection of your peoples servitude toward anti-Slavic Magyars or the more recent Nazis whom your people allied to?

    In any case, Habsburgs were retards and Franz Joseph was the premier one: a piece of degenerate sh..t who ruined Central Europe

    Lol, the best things in your country happened under his rule, which is why you hate him. Well, your Magyar masters didn’t like him too much. Neither did the Nazis. It is clear why you dislike him.

    abandoning the ship

    Speaking of ships….

    🙂

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Moscow remains my favorite city in the world,
     
    Even better than Tokyo, which is just as if not even more so ethnically homogeneous and developed?

    Is your support of this a reflection of your peoples servitude toward anti-Slavic Magyars or the more recent Nazis whom your people allied to?

     

    Had the Anglo-French fought over Czechoslovakia in 1938 and France subsequently fell to the Nazis in 1939, would Poland have behaved itself any better?

    Lol, the best things in your country happened under his rule, which is why you hate him. Well, your Magyar masters didn’t like him too much. Neither did the Nazis. It is clear why you dislike him.

     

    Life for Slovaks strikes me as being better in the 1920-1937 time period than in the pre-WWI decades, no? In the interwar era, they were less oppressed by the Czechoslovak government than they were in the pre-WWI decades by the Hungarian government, no?

    Replies: @Derer

  963. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    Your obsession with pure blood is weird and unhealthy. You don’t understand what a nation means
     
    A lot of people make this mistake: do not see a difference between a state (citizens of a state constitute a nation) and a tribe. Historically, tribes predate states and disappear with the appearance of states. Yet a lot of whackos want their states to be tribal.

    Tribal state is a contradiction in terms. Any attempt to make a state tribal dooms it. Hitler trued to make Germany a tribal state. The result was inevitable, This is a normal evolutionary process: unfit are culled, the fittest survive. Israel and current Kiev regime got into the same trap. There can be only two outcomes: they crash and burn, or they stop being tribal and become viable states.

    Replies: @Sean, @Barbarossa

    I think it can be a matter of degree and not a hard demarcation between tribalism and nationalism. Pure tribalism only works with relatively small homogeneous groups but has trouble scaling up. A good example would be Scottish clans who were hobbled by their infighting in resisting the English.

    On the other extreme is our own US of A where there are basically no cultural, religious, or racial commonalities and therefore basically no organic societal bonds. This inevitably unravels if times get worse as is already happening and a strong centralized state is absolutely necessary to maintain order owing to the lack of common culture and values.

    I think ideally there should be a fairly high degree of tribalism’s shared values, at least if one wants stability over the long term. As I’m wont to say, Levi’s and Coca-Cola are thin stuff to create a civilization on the backs of.

    Racialists get it wrong to think that racial demarcations are the primary criteria. It’s a fine building block as far as it goes but not nearly as important as a common culture, by which I mean values, societal priorities and ethics. One of the rotten realities of today is that most of us have no way of knowing by what rules our neighbors are playing the game of life which leads to very low trust in society.

  964. @Another Polish Perspective
    @LatW


    That’s in the paleo times, I’ve never heard anything about our skeletons being mutilated in that way in any archeological sites. So never saw alien evidence, must disappoint you.
     
    Talking specifically about fingers, yes. However, the popularity of this amputation around the world, among cultures which did not have contact with each other, calls for bold conjectures.


    "Four sites in Africa, three in Australia, nine in North America, five in south Asia and one in south-east Asia contain evidence of finger amputation." (from the quoted article")

    Likewise, there is tendency for other irrational deformations to appear around the world, deformations which sometimes co-exist. For example, the customs of cranial deformation and cousin marriage co-existed in ancient Egypt, Inca empire, ancient cultures of Fergana valley. Although cranial deformation ceased, cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.

    As for Arvo Part - I have even met him once in Warsaw during "Warsaw Autumn" festival, quite like his tintinabulli style, however, I am not exactly sure what to think about him writing hymn to words which once accompanied a pagan prayer.
    The official story of Christianity claims that Christianity deliberately took over some pagan customs in order to win pagans....On the second look, it does not look very plausible if you know Christianity history, eg. the crusading custom (or winning pagans with fire and sword), the accommodation conflict around Jesuits in China, as well as the general tendency of heresies and schism to become more strict than mainstream. In fact, for Christianity to retain its specific message, it would pay off to disavow any pagan custom -this is actually what happens in Old Testament, when other religions are continuously scorned.
    So maybe this accommodating attitude of Christianity towards paganism could be better explained by Christianity becoming crypto-pagan?
    Overall, I find the idea of philosophia perennis really plausible. BTW, deer/stag is such an old pagan symbol. And you know, there are more satanic verses in the Bible than in Quran ;)

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @LatW, @S, @Barbarossa

    cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.

    I’ll second AnonfromTN’s point on cousin marriage. Variants have been practiced in fairly recent history to keep wealth and power consolidated. This makes sense since closer inbreeding has noticeable downsides quickly, hence the mostly universal taboos against it.

    I’m curious how you would even find out about the marriage customs of Nibiru, assuming the existence of such a place?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @Barbarossa


    I’m curious how you would even find out about the marriage customs of Nibiru, assuming the existence of such a place?
     
    Touché!
    , @Another Polish Perspective
    @Barbarossa


    Variants have been practiced in fairly recent history to keep wealth and power consolidated.
     
    It is absolutely not necessary. Ancient Rome had a very good institution for this: adoption of adults. Strangely, adoption of adults is banned nowadays in most jurisdictions.

    As for Nibiru... legends, myths, eg. Sumerian or Babylonian ones.

    Replies: @Barbarossa

  965. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    Russia is also trying to minimize the damage and casualties in Ukraine. Militarily it could have done a lot more destruction (e.g., US-style scorched earth – Raqqa is a good example), but chose not to
     
    The places that Russia has captured have been razed to the ground, with almost no one left in them. Casualties have been minimized because Ukraine evacuates the civilians as the front approaches.

    Replies: @Mikel

    Casualties have been minimized because Ukraine evacuates the civilians as the front approaches.

    There was some very ugly stuff going on during the Russian attack on Mariupol with all those failed attempts to evacuate civilians. I don’t know what exactly happened there but from a military and political perspective it’s not easy to imagine the Russians being interested in having lots of civilians living in the city they were trying to storm.

    Of course, the Western media all went along with the Kiev narrative that the Russians not only wanted to occupy the city but also to kill as many (Russian speaking) civilians as possible while doing so and they were the only ones sabotaging the evacuation efforts. Absent any ethnic bias, it just boggles my mind how anyone can have any strong sympathy for any of the parties in this war.

    In any case, if the Ukrainians and Russians had managed to agree to a large-scale humanitarian evacuation, a huge amount of families would not be broken now and lots of civilians (possibly thousands) would be alive. The Azovs keeping hundreds of civilians inside the Azovstal catacombs along with them was quite unseemly too. If the Russians were willing to sign an agreement that meant the eventual release of the very Azov Battalion leaders, it’s obvious that they would have also agreed to evacuate those women and children inside the catacombs, with 3rd-party mediation if necessary.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mikel


    There was some very ugly stuff going on during the Russian attack on Mariupol with all those failed attempts to evacuate civilians. I don’t know what exactly happened there but from a military and political perspective it’s not easy to imagine the Russians being interested in having lots of civilians living in the city they were trying to storm.
     
    The fault for this tragedy lies with Russia for invading.

    Of course, the Western media all went along with the Kiev narrative that the Russians not only wanted to occupy the city but also to kill as many (Russian speaking) civilians as possible
     
    My impression was that it was just total disregard for civilian life during the course of capturing the city, rather than deliberate attempt to kill as many as possible. Russians civilians were killed by Russian forces in Chechnya, too IIRC.

    and they were the only ones sabotaging the evacuation efforts
     
    This was fairly early in the war. Since then, Ukraine has done a good job evacuating most civilians. Ukrainians complain that civilian presence make it harder to defend the cities because they have to mind the civilians. The ones who stay behind tend to be either extremely unfortunate immobile invalids, or pro-Russians ones who are willing to risk their lives to get under Russian rule. There are still around 1,000 civilians left in Avdiivka (prewar population 32,000).

    The Azovs keeping hundreds of civilians inside the Azovstal catacombs along with them was quite unseemly too.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/world/europe/ukraine-war-mariupol-azovstal.html

    It looks like both civilians and troops (including Azov but also regular military) took shelter there, and ended up being trapped together. At least one of their civilians joined Azov. That massive steel mill/bunker with deep bomb shelters was probably a lot safer than some of the apartment buildings that were flattened during the war for the city. The presence of the civilians was inconvenient for the defenders (more mouths to feed, they had to be more careful).

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

  966. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Keep deluding yourself.
     
    Those unwilling to see will remain blind. Nothing new there.

    Top seven economies by PPP in descending order: China, USA, India, Japan, Russia, Germany, Indonesia.

    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023. US-inspired sanctions had two objectives: damage Russian and European economies. They were 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023

    Russian economy shrank 2.1% in 2022 and government projections range from 2.8% to 3.5% in 2023.

    So at best, it is 1.4% improvement 2022-2023.

    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    German GDP grew 1.8% in 2022 and is expected to decline by .4% in 2023.

    French GDP grew 2.5% in 2022 and is expected to grow .8% in 2023.

    Europe is going down the drain.

    Well, since the war began, under the most optimistic projections for Russia, it’s economy has performed about the same as Germany’s and worse than both the UK and France.

    Do you believe Europeans won’t have gas or food this winter? Did you believe that last winter?

    • Replies: @AnonfromTN
    @AP


    Do you believe Europeans won’t have gas or food this winter?
     
    Beliefs are irrelevant when the facts are known. Europeans will have food and natural gas this winter, but they are going to pay a lot more for both. The EU has already calculated that it payed for the natural gas in 2023 as much as in the preceding nine years combined.

    What Europe loses and will keep losing is prosperity. While I liked Europe as a mega-Disneyland I used to travel to on vacations, I am hard pressed to feel anything but schadenfreude. If Europeans are determined to destroy Europe, who am I to object?

    Although I did not travel to Europe for the last ~2 years and won’t go there any more, I do not feel any loss: the world is big and wonderful, and most of it does not toe the imperial line.
    , @Derer
    @AP

    Some corrections of AP statistics especially on Russia.

    GDP annual growth rates (%):


    Russia.....-2.1 (2022).......5.5 (2023)

    France......2.6...................0.6

    Germany..1.9...................-0.4

    UK............4.1....................0.3

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

     

    What made Britain grow so strongly? It couldn't have been immigration since it only increased the British population by, what? 1%? 1.5%?

    Replies: @AP

  967. @Barbarossa
    @Another Polish Perspective


    cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.
     
    I'll second AnonfromTN's point on cousin marriage. Variants have been practiced in fairly recent history to keep wealth and power consolidated. This makes sense since closer inbreeding has noticeable downsides quickly, hence the mostly universal taboos against it.

    I'm curious how you would even find out about the marriage customs of Nibiru, assuming the existence of such a place?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Another Polish Perspective

    I’m curious how you would even find out about the marriage customs of Nibiru, assuming the existence of such a place?

    Touché!

  968. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023
     
    Russian economy shrank 2.1% in 2022 and government projections range from 2.8% to 3.5% in 2023.

    So at best, it is 1.4% improvement 2022-2023.

    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    German GDP grew 1.8% in 2022 and is expected to decline by .4% in 2023.

    French GDP grew 2.5% in 2022 and is expected to grow .8% in 2023.

    Europe is going down the drain.
     
    Well, since the war began, under the most optimistic projections for Russia, it's economy has performed about the same as Germany’s and worse than both the UK and France.

    Do you believe Europeans won’t have gas or food this winter? Did you believe that last winter?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @Mr. XYZ

    Do you believe Europeans won’t have gas or food this winter?

    Beliefs are irrelevant when the facts are known. Europeans will have food and natural gas this winter, but they are going to pay a lot more for both. The EU has already calculated that it payed for the natural gas in 2023 as much as in the preceding nine years combined.

    What Europe loses and will keep losing is prosperity. While I liked Europe as a mega-Disneyland I used to travel to on vacations, I am hard pressed to feel anything but schadenfreude. If Europeans are determined to destroy Europe, who am I to object?

    Although I did not travel to Europe for the last ~2 years and won’t go there any more, I do not feel any loss: the world is big and wonderful, and most of it does not toe the imperial line.

  969. @Barbarossa
    @Another Polish Perspective


    cousin marriage is still relatively popular in those regions. It is hard to find a rational reason for this randomized deformation (which cousin marriage in effect truly is), and not to notice that it was marriage custom of the planet Nibiru, from which ancient astronauts were to stem from.
     
    I'll second AnonfromTN's point on cousin marriage. Variants have been practiced in fairly recent history to keep wealth and power consolidated. This makes sense since closer inbreeding has noticeable downsides quickly, hence the mostly universal taboos against it.

    I'm curious how you would even find out about the marriage customs of Nibiru, assuming the existence of such a place?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Another Polish Perspective

    Variants have been practiced in fairly recent history to keep wealth and power consolidated.

    It is absolutely not necessary. Ancient Rome had a very good institution for this: adoption of adults. Strangely, adoption of adults is banned nowadays in most jurisdictions.

    As for Nibiru… legends, myths, eg. Sumerian or Babylonian ones.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Extreme caution is generally a good policy in interpreting any ancient texts. It's really difficult to derive certain interpretations since we lack so much cultural and linguistic context. This is especially true when people try to weave a syncretic whole out of a hodgepodge of ancient and modern bits.

    I'm all for the notion that things may be significantly stranger than we know and that modern knowledge and interpretations may be very wrong, but I try to be circumspect. There are WAY too many similar rabbit holes on the interwebs.

    I'm not trying to convince you of anything one way or another, but I find it a useful litmus test to ask if devoting time and energy particular theory advances me as a human being. Does it make me a better, unfettered person, improve bonds with my family community, etc? If the answer is no, then I regard it as an entertainment at best and a distraction at worst.

    Since my mastery of cuneiform is sadly non-existent, I have low confidence that I could discern faulty interpretations in Sumerian history and religion from valid ones. So, if I get abducted by aliens and they fill me in personally I'll be on board, but until that point I'll leave it by the wayside as a probably unfruitful pursuit.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

  970. @LatW
    @Dmitry


    You mean finding the plastic bag of frozen dumpling in the freezer, put it in the pan of hot water, impatiently remove before defrosting and eat the wet salty half-cold half-hot factory mix of chemicals on your plate? Because, at least in terms of my origins, that’s my cooking roots.
     
    So funny... LOL. Maybe a bit too much social realism there (although I bet not too far from the truth... aw, poor you). :) For me it's more like, nice, steaming, freshly boiled dumplings, pork or mushroom... with a spoonful of sour cream and maybe a little bit of cut parsley on top. :) Maybe with some ground cheese.

    I don’t think any of his recipes would be easy or you could follow with some high levels of experiences and skill.
     
    I like how he goes "Hi, my bakers" as if we're all equally skilled. :) You shouldn't have shown me this blog, I looked at the rest of it and almost fainted. Check out his Instagram, too, he has a lot of classics and some international as well.

    He made brownies... :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjCu8aq0my0

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Barbarossa

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    I once incorrectly assumed that anyone can learn to cook.

    Any adult can follow instructions but some people should be kept out of the kitchen.

    People with bad taste normally aren't aware of it. They think everything tastes fine.

    So they follow the instructions but don't know when exactly to pull the noodles or vegetables. They will eat overcooked noodles and shrug.

    I have a relative who cooks daily and is still awful. She will serve burned toast with soggy eggs and then look grumpy if you don't eat it. If I cook the eggs she will think they are great and then go right back to making soggy ones the next day. People with terrible taste don't think the difference is significant. You can give them tips and they will go back to overcooking or using the wrong substitute. In fact they will often think you are being picky and rude for saying something. When at her house I try to get up early and make the eggs. There is a sigh of relief from everyone else.

    , @LatW
    @Barbarossa


    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.
     
    And you're posting this to me....er, exactly why? Are you assuming I can't cook good dishes just because I watched an entertaining food blog? I was just co-miserating with Dmitry since he hadn't seemed to be able to make a nice bowl of dumplings (and that he didn't have better food available). The darn 90s in Russia...

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    , @songbird
    @Barbarossa

    Deadly chef seems to be a common Japanese trope for waifus.

    Possibly because it makes for a good visual gag, when things are drawn and open to exaggeration. But maybe for some more interesting but obscure reason. Like how they appreciate imperfections.

    , @LatW
    @Barbarossa


    knowing how to cook
     
    Btw, how are your bantam chickens doing? Still mounting all the ladies? :) Don't worry, we won't cook them - they are too pretty. :)
  971. @Mr. Hack
    @Sean

    I think that Russia was way better off economically and even militarily before this stupid war was started. Free trade with the West, including western businesses busily at work within Russia employing Russians, was a win win for everyone. If this weren't so, Putler wouldn't be continually moaning to have western sanctions removed. Think about it, NS2 would have been a very big deal for Russia, and today? Militarily, Russia had the 2nd greatest military in the world, and today? The laughing stock of the world. And all signs seem to indicate that Russia is quickly spinning out of control, down a rabbit hole of no return:

    https://youtu.be/gzKqxgaRYpI

    Replies: @Mikhail, @Sean

    I think Putin regret his lack of impetuosity in 2015, when he was holding all the cards. The West–America most of all–is supposed to represent the single locus ever more sophisticated future progress, so Russia to cut itself off from into those developments, yet whether the Chinese system is a failure or it is going to be America getting overtaken and ending up like Soviet system remains to be seen. Quite possibly China will become comparable to America in power within Putin’s lifetime.

    Evidently Putin saw the situation Russia was in before the invasion as seriously bad but he attempted to maintain flexibility in his foreign policy for too long. He was indecisive about what to do about Ukraine until quite late in the run up to the SNO judging by the pre invasion televised conference when the foreign intelligence chief’s waffling made clear he hadn’t been told what was happening mere weeks before the operation stated.

    Most likely Putin was counting on sabre rattling to extract concessions and then was confronted with the prospect of backing down, or going ahead with an undersized force (he probably thought Kiev would give after the invasion started). I think the worst grand strategic outcome of the war for Russia is losing its freedom of action in regards to China. All Russia’s eggs are firmly in the Chinese basket now, although that may be not such a bad place to have them.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @Sean


    I think Putin regret his lack of impetuosity in 2015, when he was holding all the cards.
     
    Yep, very possibly. That (and 2014) was the time to go big or not to try anything at all, including Crimea, and simply letting Ukraine completely exit Russia's orbit. The latter course of action would have meant that Putin would not have experienced a huge popularity boost due to Crimea, of course.

    Replies: @QCIC

  972. @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Putin has signaled that he is willing to accept the current lines.
     
    Eventually he might implicitly accept whatever the lines are at that point in the future. Wherever the lines are by then if Putin were to recognise lines to the east or west or the same as the current ones as the borders of Ukraine and Ukraine agreed then Ukraine as a country not in any dispute over its territory would be theoretically eligible to join NATO. I think Putin will cease actual hostilities eventually, but he will have zero incentive to sign a peace treaty or recognise the borders of even a rump Ukraine.

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @John Johnson

    I think Putin will cease actual hostilities eventually, but he will have zero incentive to sign a peace treaty or recognize the borders of even a rump Ukraine.

    He has plenty of incentive. The longer the war drags out the harder it will be for Roosan State TV to convince the public they are winning. Russian elections may be fixed but history suggests that it’s a bad idea to be an unpopular Tsar. Putin also cares about his legacy and at this point will gladly take his “mission accomplished” banner while knowing his TV pundits won’t speak of the original goals.

    Russia’s actual inflation rate could be as high as 40% for foodstuff and other basic items. They again raised interest rates a few weeks ago which shows that they don’t know what to do. They’re just copying a Western response without understanding the actual problem. This isn’t merely a case of demand outstripping supply. They have a hole in their labor market. When you remove rural men from farms and factories it destabilizes the economy. I’m not going to explain how to solve this problem but it doesn’t involve aping a Western solution to a peacetime economy that can take a year to even work.

    Putin is clearly under pressure to end the war as seen by the meat attacks against Avdiivka. That isn’t the action of someone that can play a long game. They just launched an unsupported infantry attack which is unreal. We are getting closer to my joke of them using horses.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @John Johnson

    Dubious that Russia going onto the offensive, leveling a city to take it and losing lots of troops in the process, is an indication they want to end the war and sign a treaty recognizing Ukrainian territory, thereby making Ukraine theoretically eligible for Nato membership. My distinct impression is while Putin may in fact be taking Russia ever deeper into the slough of economic despond, he has not yet grasped that may be a way to lose the war, possibly because he is getting faulty economic analysis. Or maybe he has other priorities. I am confident that Putin, who understands a thing or two about the Russian masses, does not think keeping the war going will loosen his grip on power.

  973. @Barbarossa
    @LatW

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW, @songbird, @LatW

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    I once incorrectly assumed that anyone can learn to cook.

    Any adult can follow instructions but some people should be kept out of the kitchen.

    People with bad taste normally aren’t aware of it. They think everything tastes fine.

    So they follow the instructions but don’t know when exactly to pull the noodles or vegetables. They will eat overcooked noodles and shrug.

    I have a relative who cooks daily and is still awful. She will serve burned toast with soggy eggs and then look grumpy if you don’t eat it. If I cook the eggs she will think they are great and then go right back to making soggy ones the next day. People with terrible taste don’t think the difference is significant. You can give them tips and they will go back to overcooking or using the wrong substitute. In fact they will often think you are being picky and rude for saying something. When at her house I try to get up early and make the eggs. There is a sigh of relief from everyone else.

  974. @QCIC
    @songbird

    Perhaps the alien's fingers fused together following a long period of disuse (million years) after they developed telekinetic competency.

    In other words, our human "mechanical experience" may have zero relevance to understanding aliens, though our conceptual experience may be relevant if one is open-minded enough to translate.

    Replies: @songbird

    In other words, our human “mechanical experience” may have zero relevance to understanding aliens, though our conceptual experience may be relevant if one is open-minded enough to translate.

    If I saw a depiction of an alien with three fingers, I would suppose rather that it speaks to human biases.

    A lot of American cartoons have four. Because it is easier to animate, but doesn’t cross into the Uncanny Valley, the way that three would.

    Three looks alien. I imagine because of deep instincts about wanting to preserve one’s fingers, from leprosy, etc., or the other side in battle, or when hunting a dangerous animal, or working a tool.

    [MORE]

    I once had a horse fly land on my pinky. It really freaked me out visually because it totally obscured a segment of it.

    Possibly there could be some reason for engineering three fingers. (they would need to be engineered and against strong instincts to preserve them.). like devoting the brain space to something else. But it is hard to perceive why a race would do such a thing.

    Anyway, willingness to do extreme body modification through DNA manipulation would probably result in more body-type diversity (like in the Hyperion saga) rather than some weird traits, like three fingers, being fixated in one species.

  975. @Another Polish Perspective
    @Barbarossa


    Variants have been practiced in fairly recent history to keep wealth and power consolidated.
     
    It is absolutely not necessary. Ancient Rome had a very good institution for this: adoption of adults. Strangely, adoption of adults is banned nowadays in most jurisdictions.

    As for Nibiru... legends, myths, eg. Sumerian or Babylonian ones.

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    Extreme caution is generally a good policy in interpreting any ancient texts. It’s really difficult to derive certain interpretations since we lack so much cultural and linguistic context. This is especially true when people try to weave a syncretic whole out of a hodgepodge of ancient and modern bits.

    I’m all for the notion that things may be significantly stranger than we know and that modern knowledge and interpretations may be very wrong, but I try to be circumspect. There are WAY too many similar rabbit holes on the interwebs.

    I’m not trying to convince you of anything one way or another, but I find it a useful litmus test to ask if devoting time and energy particular theory advances me as a human being. Does it make me a better, unfettered person, improve bonds with my family community, etc? If the answer is no, then I regard it as an entertainment at best and a distraction at worst.

    Since my mastery of cuneiform is sadly non-existent, I have low confidence that I could discern faulty interpretations in Sumerian history and religion from valid ones. So, if I get abducted by aliens and they fill me in personally I’ll be on board, but until that point I’ll leave it by the wayside as a probably unfruitful pursuit.

    • Replies: @Another Polish Perspective
    @Barbarossa


    Extreme caution is generally a good policy in interpreting any ancient texts.
     
    Still, creators of these texts are closer to our finger-chopping predecessors than we are. It is the reality of these texts which can have clues concerning this practice, not ours.

    I’m not trying to convince you of anything one way or another, but I find it a useful litmus test to ask if devoting time and energy particular theory advances me as a human being. Does it make me a better, unfettered person, improve bonds with my family community, etc?
     
    Alien things are about the nature of power structure and confusion/obfuscation spread by it, which is by the way, the general subject of Unz (even if other answers are preferred). Man may be the measure of all things in everyday life, but there are still gods and religions, the fastest gateway to the subject of aliens.
  976. Islam attempted to ruin Christmas. (1)

    Major counter-terror operation across Europe after intelligence revealed plan for mass attacks on Christian landmarks

    Armed police guard cathedrals in Cologne and Vienna and sniffer dogs have been deployed to root out explosives ahead of Christmas church services
    ___

    Ahead of Christmas church services, all visitors to the cathedral will be screened upon entry, and security guards will be deployed throughout the holiday period, Cologne’s police chief Michael Esser announced.

    “We will take everything into account this evening to ensure the safety of cathedral visitors on Christmas Eve. In coordination with the security officer of the cathedral chapter, the cathedral is searched with sniffer dogs after the evening mass and then locked. Tomorrow all visitors will be screened before entering the church,” he said.

    Further counter-terror operations have taken place in Madrid and Vienna following additional terror threats, and Austrian authorities revealed the primary focus for attacks is on churches and religious events including Christmas markets.

    St. Stephen’s Cathedral in Vienna was specifically mentioned as a target and Austrian authorities are imposing access controls and deploying armed guards.

    “Since terrorist actors across Europe are calling for attacks on Christian events — especially around Dec. 24 — the security authorities have increased the corresponding protective measures in public spaces in Vienna and the federal states,” Austrian federal police wrote in a press release issued on Saturday evening.

    Fortunately, those who oppose servants of Anti-Christ Muhammad were successful.

    I belatedly wish a Merry Christmas to commenters here, those who protected the Houses of God in Europe, and Palestinian Jews who face the same implacable foe.

    ✝️ MERRY CHRISTMAS ☦️
    ___________________________

    (1) https://rmx.news/crime/major-counter-terror-operation-across-europe-after-intelligence-revealed-plan-for-mass-attacks-on-christian-landmarks/

  977. @AnonfromTN
    @Mikhail


    Keep deluding yourself.
     
    Those unwilling to see will remain blind. Nothing new there.

    Top seven economies by PPP in descending order: China, USA, India, Japan, Russia, Germany, Indonesia.

    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023. US-inspired sanctions had two objectives: damage Russian and European economies. They were 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain.

    Replies: @AP, @John Johnson

    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023. US-inspired sanctions had two objectives: damage Russian and European economies. They were 50% successful: Europe is going down the drain.

    No one knows Russia’s actual GDP. It is undoubtedly smaller once you remove the increase in military spending.

    War is normally bad for the economy unless it is quick and the spoils can be decisively acquired. The Nazi war on Western Europe was profitable because they were able to loot the gold and art of neighboring countries. Once they went East it was a complete drain. This is why Hitler’s top economist did not want them to attack Russia. Hitler of course ignored him and largely made the decision to attack based on feelings of superiority and not economic analysis.

    Putin’s attack on Ukraine was similarly made on feels. He declared in 2014 that he could take Kiev in 2 weeks if he wanted to. Well that obviously didn’t work.

    Russia is going to be in the economic trap where they have to keep spending to keep the economy stable. There is no Ukraine state bank filled with gold that they will be able to loot. Donbas has billions in coal but it will take years to recoup. We are already seeing lines in Russia for eggs which is a very bad sign. Eggs are something that can be produced without much startup costs and yet there is a shortage. Another year of war and we could easily see Soviet style lines for government food rations. I was skeptical of “Fortress Russia” claims but even this has surprised me. I expected shortages in Western parts/computer chips but not eggs. I’m also surprised by the shortages in small arms. I really thought they had endless warehouses of AK-74s and ammo. The AK-47 is the default conscript weapon and it sounds like they are limited on magazines.

  978. @AP
    @Beckow


    No, your comment is all about pure blood
     
    It was not. Why your obsession with this idea?

    usual obsessive cherrypicking of unprovable 1,000 year old minutia
     
    The fact that Russia is in essence a project in which non-Eastern Slavs rule over Eastern Slavs is well proven and hardly minutia.

    Your primitive hatred of anything “Russian” is sad

     

    Another sick fantasy of yours. While I am no fan of Russia invading and killing Ukraine I certainly don’t hate “anything Russian.” Moscow remains my favorite city in the world, I adore its theater, I have close Russian family and friends.

    You who support a war in which 100,000s Eastern Slavs are killing each other because Putin chose to invade Ukraine are far more anti-Russian in a practical sense than I am.

    Is your support of this a reflection of your peoples servitude toward anti-Slavic Magyars or the more recent Nazis whom your people allied to?

    In any case, Habsburgs were retards and Franz Joseph was the premier one: a piece of degenerate sh..t who ruined Central Europe

     

    Lol, the best things in your country happened under his rule, which is why you hate him. Well, your Magyar masters didn’t like him too much. Neither did the Nazis. It is clear why you dislike him.

    abandoning the ship
     
    Speaking of ships….

    :-)

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    Moscow remains my favorite city in the world,

    Even better than Tokyo, which is just as if not even more so ethnically homogeneous and developed?

    Is your support of this a reflection of your peoples servitude toward anti-Slavic Magyars or the more recent Nazis whom your people allied to?

    Had the Anglo-French fought over Czechoslovakia in 1938 and France subsequently fell to the Nazis in 1939, would Poland have behaved itself any better?

    Lol, the best things in your country happened under his rule, which is why you hate him. Well, your Magyar masters didn’t like him too much. Neither did the Nazis. It is clear why you dislike him.

    Life for Slovaks strikes me as being better in the 1920-1937 time period than in the pre-WWI decades, no? In the interwar era, they were less oppressed by the Czechoslovak government than they were in the pre-WWI decades by the Hungarian government, no?

    • Replies: @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    I am in agreement with your post and would like to add the Zakarpattia shafts. By the Versailles agreement Zakarpattia became a part of democratic Czechoslovakia that had border with Romania.

    At the start of the WWII, opportunistic Hungary immediately aligned with Hitler and then was able to annexed southern Slovakia and Zakarpattia for the 6 war years in violation of Versailles. After the WWII Stalin attached Zakarpattia to Ukraine in order to have access to Hungary. After the collapse of the communist countries and the Soviets the Zakarpattia should have been returned to Eurozone Slovakia but Ukinazi regime defended Stalin diktat and would not allowed any independent voice of the area inhabitants (Rusyns).

    Replies: @LatW

  979. @AnonfromTN
    @Beckow


    It seems like it is something in the water in the West, the idiotic self-deception about the evil</ Russia.
     
    This tradition is several centuries old. The West feared and loathed The Russian Empire, then the USSR, now the RF. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    One thing actually changed: the feelings of Russian citizens about the West. The admirers of the West (among people who knew that something exists beyond their village) were fairly numerous in the Russian Empire (Peter the Great is an example), as well as in the USSR, but now their numbers are rapidly dwindling. In 5-10 years mutual loathing will be equal.

    The advantage of Russians is that they don’t fear the West one bit. Whatever fear was there is gone now, when burnt out hulks of Western wonder-weapons litter the fields in Eastern Ukraine. The funniest thing is about German tanks, which they keep naming after big cats: dead Leopards litter the same territories where dead Hitler’s Tigers and Panthers were rusting before.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    One thing actually changed: the feelings of Russian citizens about the West. The admirers of the West (among people who knew that something exists beyond their village) were fairly numerous in the Russian Empire (Peter the Great is an example), as well as in the USSR, but now their numbers are rapidly dwindling. In 5-10 years mutual loathing will be equal.

    Russians had a complex love-loathe relationship with the West for a very long time now.

  980. @Sean
    @Mr. Hack

    I think Putin regret his lack of impetuosity in 2015, when he was holding all the cards. The West--America most of all--is supposed to represent the single locus ever more sophisticated future progress, so Russia to cut itself off from into those developments, yet whether the Chinese system is a failure or it is going to be America getting overtaken and ending up like Soviet system remains to be seen. Quite possibly China will become comparable to America in power within Putin's lifetime.

    Evidently Putin saw the situation Russia was in before the invasion as seriously bad but he attempted to maintain flexibility in his foreign policy for too long. He was indecisive about what to do about Ukraine until quite late in the run up to the SNO judging by the pre invasion televised conference when the foreign intelligence chief's waffling made clear he hadn't been told what was happening mere weeks before the operation stated.

    Most likely Putin was counting on sabre rattling to extract concessions and then was confronted with the prospect of backing down, or going ahead with an undersized force (he probably thought Kiev would give after the invasion started). I think the worst grand strategic outcome of the war for Russia is losing its freedom of action in regards to China. All Russia's eggs are firmly in the Chinese basket now, although that may be not such a bad place to have them.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    I think Putin regret his lack of impetuosity in 2015, when he was holding all the cards.

    Yep, very possibly. That (and 2014) was the time to go big or not to try anything at all, including Crimea, and simply letting Ukraine completely exit Russia’s orbit. The latter course of action would have meant that Putin would not have experienced a huge popularity boost due to Crimea, of course.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    I assume the Russian military thinks about these things strategically, not in the warm and fuzzy feel-good terms of Unz commenters. In 2015 the West had not fully wrecked the nuclear arms control framework. Preserving the remnants of this framework were probably still a priority before 2022, so avoiding a strong precipitous intervention in Ukraine probably seemed correct. It is also possible that Russia was not ready politically, economically or militarily in 2015 to fight an SMO on her terms. Something changed by 2022 and Russia started the SMO. Many aspects of the SMO are probably going better than Russia had hoped so they may not be in a rush to wrap it up. Moreover, the West is effectively starting a "forever war" with Russia so what is the rush? She can let the pieces click into place at the lowest cost even if it takes more time.

    By "forever war", I mean a war that will continue and probably escalate as long as the West pressures and threatens Russia. It is up to the West to stop pressuring and not up to Russia to stop resisting this pressure.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  981. @Barbarossa
    @LatW

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW, @songbird, @LatW

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    And you’re posting this to me….er, exactly why? Are you assuming I can’t cook good dishes just because I watched an entertaining food blog? I was just co-miserating with Dmitry since he hadn’t seemed to be able to make a nice bowl of dumplings (and that he didn’t have better food available). The darn 90s in Russia…

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @LatW

    I was generally heartily agreeing with you : )
    I apologize if it seemed random.

  982. @S
    @songbird


    Apparently, there really were nuclear air-to-air missiles, but they seem to have been pretty limited in their capabilities, based on the missiles.
     
    Post WWII they went overboard with the nuclear stuff. I seem to recall they even came up with a nuclear powered airplane design. The air to air nuclear missiles were a part of that I suppose, until someone realized it was overkill to use a nuclear bomb to take out a single airplane.

    [Kind of remindful of the postwar 'better living through chemistry' craze. Then it occurred to folks that natural food was probably better for a person than artificial 'food' constructed wholly out of chemicals.]

    Replies: @QCIC, @songbird

    The air to air nuclear missiles were a part of that I suppose, until someone realized it was overkill to use a nuclear bomb to take out a single airplane.

    Must have been pretty hair-raising to fire – original version had a 12s fuse.

    But I think they made good sense for the time because homing technology was limited to start with, and WW2 had involved big formations of bombers. And they seem to have had limited escalatory potential, as they were only designed against aircraft and meant to be used after visual confirmation.

    [MORE]

    Thousands were made. They seem to have had them in stockpiles, at least into the mid ’80s. Canada too.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/air-air-nuke-could-have-decimated-bomber-fleets-no-problem-193157

    I think they got rid of them because nuclear bombers had essentially become obsolete, with the advent of advanced intercontinental ballistic missiles on the Soviet side in the mid ’70s.

    They definitely liked nuclear tech back then, but I think we’ve moved too much in the opposite direction. No reason why we shouldn’t be building experimental reactors on some isolated atoll in the Pacific.

    • Replies: @S
    @songbird

    That would make sense that the nuclear air to air missiles, as designed, were intended to take out a fleet of aircraft.

    As an aside, some of the earlier jet fighters from the 1950's had horrible accident rates.



    Of the 2294 F-100 Super Sabres in service with the US Air Force (USAF) between 1954-1972 889 of the planes were destroyed in 'accidents'.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-100_Super_Sabre


    Over the lifetime of its USAF service, 889 F-100s were destroyed in accidents, resulting in the deaths of 324 pilots. The deadliest year for F-100 accidents was 1958, which saw 116 aircraft destroyed and 47 pilots killed.
     
    The F-104 Starfighter (Starship fighter? Hehe!) featured in the Star Trek clip was even worse in comparison safety wise for the USAF. The Canadian's lost 46 percent of their F-104's due to accidents. The Germans, who nicknamed the F-104 'the widow-maker', lost nearly a third of theirs in accidents.

    So maybe the Enterprise did a real favor beaming Captain Christopher safely on to the Enterprise, because it seems with or without the Enterprise 'tractor beam' there was a real chance the F-104 would of 'broke up' anyway. [To be fair, maybe the high accident rates for the early jets was something that just came with the territory, irregardless of which plane you might be flying or which air force you were flying for.]


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-104_Starfighter

    The cumulative destroyed rate of the F-104 Starfighter in USAF service as of 31 December 1983 was 25.2 aircraft destroyed per 100,000 flight hours. This is the highest accident rate of any of the USAF Century Series fighters.
     
  983. @Mikel
    @AP


    Casualties have been minimized because Ukraine evacuates the civilians as the front approaches.
     
    There was some very ugly stuff going on during the Russian attack on Mariupol with all those failed attempts to evacuate civilians. I don't know what exactly happened there but from a military and political perspective it's not easy to imagine the Russians being interested in having lots of civilians living in the city they were trying to storm.

    Of course, the Western media all went along with the Kiev narrative that the Russians not only wanted to occupy the city but also to kill as many (Russian speaking) civilians as possible while doing so and they were the only ones sabotaging the evacuation efforts. Absent any ethnic bias, it just boggles my mind how anyone can have any strong sympathy for any of the parties in this war.

    In any case, if the Ukrainians and Russians had managed to agree to a large-scale humanitarian evacuation, a huge amount of families would not be broken now and lots of civilians (possibly thousands) would be alive. The Azovs keeping hundreds of civilians inside the Azovstal catacombs along with them was quite unseemly too. If the Russians were willing to sign an agreement that meant the eventual release of the very Azov Battalion leaders, it's obvious that they would have also agreed to evacuate those women and children inside the catacombs, with 3rd-party mediation if necessary.

    Replies: @AP

    There was some very ugly stuff going on during the Russian attack on Mariupol with all those failed attempts to evacuate civilians. I don’t know what exactly happened there but from a military and political perspective it’s not easy to imagine the Russians being interested in having lots of civilians living in the city they were trying to storm.

    The fault for this tragedy lies with Russia for invading.

    Of course, the Western media all went along with the Kiev narrative that the Russians not only wanted to occupy the city but also to kill as many (Russian speaking) civilians as possible

    My impression was that it was just total disregard for civilian life during the course of capturing the city, rather than deliberate attempt to kill as many as possible. Russians civilians were killed by Russian forces in Chechnya, too IIRC.

    and they were the only ones sabotaging the evacuation efforts

    This was fairly early in the war. Since then, Ukraine has done a good job evacuating most civilians. Ukrainians complain that civilian presence make it harder to defend the cities because they have to mind the civilians. The ones who stay behind tend to be either extremely unfortunate immobile invalids, or pro-Russians ones who are willing to risk their lives to get under Russian rule. There are still around 1,000 civilians left in Avdiivka (prewar population 32,000).

    The Azovs keeping hundreds of civilians inside the Azovstal catacombs along with them was quite unseemly too.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/world/europe/ukraine-war-mariupol-azovstal.html

    It looks like both civilians and troops (including Azov but also regular military) took shelter there, and ended up being trapped together. At least one of their civilians joined Azov. That massive steel mill/bunker with deep bomb shelters was probably a lot safer than some of the apartment buildings that were flattened during the war for the city. The presence of the civilians was inconvenient for the defenders (more mouths to feed, they had to be more careful).

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    This was fairly early in the war. Since then, Ukraine has done a good job evacuating most civilians. Ukrainians complain that civilian presence make it harder to defend the cities because they have to mind the civilians. The ones who stay behind tend to be either extremely unfortunate immobile invalids, or pro-Russians ones who are willing to risk their lives to get under Russian rule. There are still around 1,000 civilians left in Avdiivka (prewar population 32,000).
     
    Seems like the East Slavic lands have a great ability to evacuate people during war. This was also evidenced during WWII. Of course, this isn't exclusively limited to those lands. A lot of Iraqis (hundreds of thousands of people, IIRC) successfully fled from Mosul when ISIS was about to conquer it in 2014 (and did, in fact, and held it for three years afterwards).
  984. @Mr. XYZ
    @Sean


    I think Putin regret his lack of impetuosity in 2015, when he was holding all the cards.
     
    Yep, very possibly. That (and 2014) was the time to go big or not to try anything at all, including Crimea, and simply letting Ukraine completely exit Russia's orbit. The latter course of action would have meant that Putin would not have experienced a huge popularity boost due to Crimea, of course.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I assume the Russian military thinks about these things strategically, not in the warm and fuzzy feel-good terms of Unz commenters. In 2015 the West had not fully wrecked the nuclear arms control framework. Preserving the remnants of this framework were probably still a priority before 2022, so avoiding a strong precipitous intervention in Ukraine probably seemed correct. It is also possible that Russia was not ready politically, economically or militarily in 2015 to fight an SMO on her terms. Something changed by 2022 and Russia started the SMO. Many aspects of the SMO are probably going better than Russia had hoped so they may not be in a rush to wrap it up. Moreover, the West is effectively starting a “forever war” with Russia so what is the rush? She can let the pieces click into place at the lowest cost even if it takes more time.

    By “forever war”, I mean a war that will continue and probably escalate as long as the West pressures and threatens Russia. It is up to the West to stop pressuring and not up to Russia to stop resisting this pressure.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I assume the Russian military thinks about these things strategically, not in the warm and fuzzy feel-good terms of Unz commenters.

    Why would you assume that? They were caught on video telling conscripts to scrounge for tampons (for bullet wounds). That means their existing inventory was woefully inadequate.

    What kind of military doesn't maintain enough basic med kits? Let's say that was some kind of oversight.

    Then what is the excuse for sending in clusters of men when Ukraine has decent artillery? That's not strategic thinking unless you want them killed.

    There are multiple videos of them doing exactly that and I can provide them if you want. Videos where men are huddled together when walking and a single shell destroys the entire group. What the hell are they teaching in basic training?

    Russian generals are ignoring lessons from 1914. You can also see this in their trench construction where they will stop at a shallow trench instead of digging out a German style bunker.

    The Russian Kiev invasion plan depended on them taking a single airport. What if the Ukrainians took or destroyed it? They had no backup plan. Does that sound like strategic thinking? Well it didn't work. You describe the commentors as fuzzy-feel good and which second largest military in the world was pushed out of Kiev? After Ukrainians correctly guessed the airport and had artillery waiting?

    This war from the start appears to be a bunch of rash decision made by drunk assholes that ignore history. Maybe you could suggest it all comes from Putin but I highly doubt it. The Russians made these same mistakes in WW1 and also the Winter War. As a people they just don't seem to value certain lessons until they learn them the hard way. And then they forget them 20-30 years later.

    Replies: @QCIC

  985. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    So, in your brilliant analysis of Hodiak's speech you managed to spot some of my "misrepresentations" of Ukraine's defensive war against Russia? You're obviously living in some sort of a fantasy world. You and your "deeper patterns" need to take a hike to somewhere in the Twilight Zone.

    https://youtu.be/-b5aW08ivHU
    The source of QCIC's "deeper patterns"

    Replies: @QCIC

    I agree that the pro-Ukie zone often seems like another dimension.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC

    It's in the right zone, only you stubbornly cling to the twilight zone of Russian primitivism.

    https://www.zois-berlin.de/fileadmin/media/_processed_/2/8/csm_Olexij_Kustovsky_57fad02305.jpg

  986. Ignores many Hindus such as Rajput Hill Chiefs or Gov Sucha Chand Khatri helped Mughals.
    The Sahibzadey and Mata Gujri Ji were betrayed by a Brahmin servant Gangu for money.

    ਅਕਾਲ

  987. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    Moscow remains my favorite city in the world,
     
    Even better than Tokyo, which is just as if not even more so ethnically homogeneous and developed?

    Is your support of this a reflection of your peoples servitude toward anti-Slavic Magyars or the more recent Nazis whom your people allied to?

     

    Had the Anglo-French fought over Czechoslovakia in 1938 and France subsequently fell to the Nazis in 1939, would Poland have behaved itself any better?

    Lol, the best things in your country happened under his rule, which is why you hate him. Well, your Magyar masters didn’t like him too much. Neither did the Nazis. It is clear why you dislike him.

     

    Life for Slovaks strikes me as being better in the 1920-1937 time period than in the pre-WWI decades, no? In the interwar era, they were less oppressed by the Czechoslovak government than they were in the pre-WWI decades by the Hungarian government, no?

    Replies: @Derer

    I am in agreement with your post and would like to add the Zakarpattia shafts. By the Versailles agreement Zakarpattia became a part of democratic Czechoslovakia that had border with Romania.

    At the start of the WWII, opportunistic Hungary immediately aligned with Hitler and then was able to annexed southern Slovakia and Zakarpattia for the 6 war years in violation of Versailles. After the WWII Stalin attached Zakarpattia to Ukraine in order to have access to Hungary. After the collapse of the communist countries and the Soviets the Zakarpattia should have been returned to Eurozone Slovakia but Ukinazi regime defended Stalin diktat and would not allowed any independent voice of the area inhabitants (Rusyns).

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Derer


    After the collapse of the communist countries and the Soviets the Zakarpattia should have been returned to Eurozone Slovakia
     
    Should Kenig have been returned to Germany (or even better - given to Lithuania)?

    And if Russia can take Crimea, can Taganrog be returned to Ukraine?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

  988. @Derer
    @Mr. XYZ

    I am in agreement with your post and would like to add the Zakarpattia shafts. By the Versailles agreement Zakarpattia became a part of democratic Czechoslovakia that had border with Romania.

    At the start of the WWII, opportunistic Hungary immediately aligned with Hitler and then was able to annexed southern Slovakia and Zakarpattia for the 6 war years in violation of Versailles. After the WWII Stalin attached Zakarpattia to Ukraine in order to have access to Hungary. After the collapse of the communist countries and the Soviets the Zakarpattia should have been returned to Eurozone Slovakia but Ukinazi regime defended Stalin diktat and would not allowed any independent voice of the area inhabitants (Rusyns).

    Replies: @LatW

    After the collapse of the communist countries and the Soviets the Zakarpattia should have been returned to Eurozone Slovakia

    Should Kenig have been returned to Germany (or even better – given to Lithuania)?

    And if Russia can take Crimea, can Taganrog be returned to Ukraine?

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @LatW


    And if Russia can take Crimea, can Taganrog be returned to Ukraine?

     

    It's not Taganrog. It's Tahanrih. And also Belgorod--oops, I mean Bilhorod.
    , @Derer
    @LatW

    My issue is Zakarpattia and Versailles. I accept only intelligent comments.

    Replies: @LatW

  989. @LatW
    @Derer


    After the collapse of the communist countries and the Soviets the Zakarpattia should have been returned to Eurozone Slovakia
     
    Should Kenig have been returned to Germany (or even better - given to Lithuania)?

    And if Russia can take Crimea, can Taganrog be returned to Ukraine?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    And if Russia can take Crimea, can Taganrog be returned to Ukraine?

    It’s not Taganrog. It’s Tahanrih. And also Belgorod–oops, I mean Bilhorod.

  990. @LatW
    @songbird


    Did you ever see the 2017 film Pilgrimage? [..] I did not enjoy it and am not recommending it. The film was too woke for me, among other shortcomings.
     
    Decided to watch it and came away with sort of mixed feelings (love the genre, medieval drama, so that part was good, as well as the visuals - scenery, horsemen, the "Quest", original languages, etc). It's not really too woke by my standards, but it is a bit biased against the Crusaders, it might be connected to the perception of the Norman invasion, it's portrayed as very brutal. Not a very deep movie, but maybe interesting for the sake of atmosphere of those times (but hard to watch due to brutality).

    Interestingly, it has the same theme as in Black Robe- it shows converts following their new Christian overlords, and being led into their demise by doing so.

    Btw, those Irish monks were there in their rock houses in South West Ireland before the Norman invasion.

    Also, shows that these colonizers are unable to proceed much without some local help. It does feature the theme of féth fíada (the magical mist) and it does reference the Tuatha Dé Danann, but it doesn't look like it gives a proper representation of it (a bit too shallow and also too "demonized", too dark, those scenes were portrayed too much as if they were filled with superstition when in fact these supernatural beings were not seen as solely dark or evil, even if there may have been taboos around their dwelling areas - that's normal and present in other cultures as well, for example, entering the sacred grove was not always allowed).


    And from that, I took the message that every stone of Ireland is sacred, even below the low tide mark, though I doubt that is what they intended.
     
    Hm, this is a cool interpretation, but, iirc, it was the "evil" Norman knight who said that - I think it was meant as a moment of doubt - as in why are we chasing this rock, when it can easily be exchanged for another. That it's just some status symbol. Maybe to show the futility of the whole quest and to highlight the fanaticism of these early Christians. Fanaticism part seemed overplayed (but who knows).

    The pagans were not portrayed in a flattering way either. The paganism was not portrayed accurately at all - I don't get why they needed to hang those crows everywhere.

    So after I watched it on YT, a few other movies popped up - I watched another one, a Dutch movie about Frisians in the 8th century (called The Legend of Redbad). OMG, it was another completely inaccurate representation of pagans and very biased against Christianization as well. But it had great visuals. But again, probably not fully accurate attire and silly regalia everywhere (inappropriate pagan symbols for that century). But at least they had some cool looking knights and ancient Germanic warriors.

    My gosh, who makes these things... I think what I noticed was that in both movies, neither religious tradition is represented in a very positive light, but the hero, who is more of an individual on his own, is the good character. For example, in Pilgrimage, the Celtic boy from the old monasteries, even though he is forced to follow a fanatical priest, in the end, finds his own agency, finds the strength in himself to act independently, to have his own moral compass. Thus the ending scene with him in the boat, that looks like those old Celtic currachs, watching over the sea: "Where to now?" A kind of a representation of freedom, finally. Maybe freedom of an individual from both traditions.

    Btw, I have been to Newgrange, it's a very tranquil place.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective, @songbird

    the hero, who is more of an individual on his own, is the good character

    And kind of unmasculine too.

    [MORE]

    And the other hero, the masculine one, the mute, was coincidentally very foreign-looking. Of course, we can make excuses and say he is supposed to be strange to highlight how greatly he has sinned, how far he has run to get from his past. But the film is so nihilistic and deconstructive that it is hard not to see his casting as the intersection of modern politics.

    My gosh, who makes these things… I think what I noticed was that in both movies, neither religious tradition is represented in a very positive light

    It is amusing how they can make a film set in the 13th century and not even try to have the same reverence that was common in a 20th century peasant.

    And the cretins who pass for professional critics will always say, “they got the dirt right.”

    Thus the ending scene with him in the boat, that looks like those old Celtic currachs, watching over the sea: “Where to now?”

    They existed pretty well into modern times. My great grandfather probably used one – his father almost certainly – with the difference being they were made of tarred canvas, rather than leather. Each area had its own design.

    Don’t remember the boat scene too well. Granted, currachs probably made it to at least Iceland and possibly Greenland. But they were very dangerous. It is very comical to me – if that was the idea they were going for. Each currach had a bottle of holy water and rosary beads, tied inside of it. Fishermen were extremely clannish, with their own “kings.” No man had his own boat but each a crew.

    The life of a fisherman was often a short one. Men often lived through their children, if they lived long enough to have them.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    And kind of unmasculine too.
     
    He had not yet grown into his masculinity, but maybe they purposefully selected this boy as the good character (to make him less "threatening"). I did like him, but mostly out of pity, because he was so obedient and "decent", yet was subjected to unduly strain, he was shown as to be very perceptive of the nastiness of the Crusaders, "who had no morals". And then finally he started making his own decisions, which is also kind of dubious, because you have to follow the leadership in such quests (but they made the leader priest into a complete scumbag). So you can see an excuse for individualism and rejection of authority there.

    And the other hero, the masculine one, the mute, was coincidentally very foreign-looking.
     
    I felt great pity for Mute, they used him. I think his character was meant to inspire pity, as someone whose loyalty is a bit slavish, and who means well but is used for "higher goals" of others. Or maybe a dumb person who follows Christianity? That's even worse. Was he supposed to be some kind of "black Irish"? He doesn't really pass for one very well. Oh, the actor is Jewish (eye roll). So now we have to feel like we owe him... sigh.

    The character who was supposed to be masculine was portrayed as "evil" (which is ok, since those two are not mutually exclusive, but they don't have to always be together). However... it was over the top. Although the actor looked really hot in this type of attire and with a beard, the actor is a bit more delicate in real life (Richard Armitage), but he looked much more menacing in this role. But too cruel and "evil" (although he wouldn't be cruel to a woman). He was supposed to be unlikable.

    I liked some of the visuals, such as the forest and the ocean scenes, and there was a lot of suspense, but, as to the cast, yes, it's kind of woke, now that you mention. But notice how there were no women there, maybe they couldn't find a "superwoman" for this type of setting. LOL the way they do with the warrior princesses in viking movies.


    It is amusing how they can make a film set in the 13th century and not even try to have the same reverence that was common in a 20th century peasant.
     
    I think they don't want Europeans to have any solid, traditional religious convictions. Because they view those as shackles. Well, some individualism is appealing, but then you do end up with the question "Where to now?" - so that part was accurate. They need develop a deeper and more meaningful theme that derives from this individualism to show how it benefits Europeans as a society and as people. Not just separate human beings. Maybe they tried, because those characters ended up surviving. At least the boy.

    Granted, currachs probably made it to at least Iceland and possibly Greenland.
     
    I think there were some Norsemen who sailed around Ireland, especially in the Western part. They were called Westmen, this was before much of recorded history, from what I gather. And, yes, Iceland is part Irish genetically, the wives, I saw an exhibit about it in a history museum in Reykjavik. It's at the very beginning of the exhibition (where they show the first couple of Iceland).

    The life of a fisherman was often a short one.
     
    Did I ever tell you about a Latvian drama about how a bunch of fishermen got stuck on an ice float in the open sea? They made a really gloomy movie about it in the 1970s.

    Replies: @songbird

  991. @QCIC
    @Mr. XYZ

    I assume the Russian military thinks about these things strategically, not in the warm and fuzzy feel-good terms of Unz commenters. In 2015 the West had not fully wrecked the nuclear arms control framework. Preserving the remnants of this framework were probably still a priority before 2022, so avoiding a strong precipitous intervention in Ukraine probably seemed correct. It is also possible that Russia was not ready politically, economically or militarily in 2015 to fight an SMO on her terms. Something changed by 2022 and Russia started the SMO. Many aspects of the SMO are probably going better than Russia had hoped so they may not be in a rush to wrap it up. Moreover, the West is effectively starting a "forever war" with Russia so what is the rush? She can let the pieces click into place at the lowest cost even if it takes more time.

    By "forever war", I mean a war that will continue and probably escalate as long as the West pressures and threatens Russia. It is up to the West to stop pressuring and not up to Russia to stop resisting this pressure.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I assume the Russian military thinks about these things strategically, not in the warm and fuzzy feel-good terms of Unz commenters.

    Why would you assume that? They were caught on video telling conscripts to scrounge for tampons (for bullet wounds). That means their existing inventory was woefully inadequate.

    What kind of military doesn’t maintain enough basic med kits? Let’s say that was some kind of oversight.

    Then what is the excuse for sending in clusters of men when Ukraine has decent artillery? That’s not strategic thinking unless you want them killed.

    There are multiple videos of them doing exactly that and I can provide them if you want. Videos where men are huddled together when walking and a single shell destroys the entire group. What the hell are they teaching in basic training?

    Russian generals are ignoring lessons from 1914. You can also see this in their trench construction where they will stop at a shallow trench instead of digging out a German style bunker.

    The Russian Kiev invasion plan depended on them taking a single airport. What if the Ukrainians took or destroyed it? They had no backup plan. Does that sound like strategic thinking? Well it didn’t work. You describe the commentors as fuzzy-feel good and which second largest military in the world was pushed out of Kiev? After Ukrainians correctly guessed the airport and had artillery waiting?

    This war from the start appears to be a bunch of rash decision made by drunk assholes that ignore history. Maybe you could suggest it all comes from Putin but I highly doubt it. The Russians made these same mistakes in WW1 and also the Winter War. As a people they just don’t seem to value certain lessons until they learn them the hard way. And then they forget them 20-30 years later.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall with a diverse mixture of advanced aircraft, submarines, ships, satellites, strategic missile defenses, etc. I don't know the answers to your questions. Bad things happen in war and mistakes are made. I believe that Russia could level much more of Ukrainian infrastructure with missile and air-strikes. This could in turn greatly weaken the supply chain for many of the Ukrainian troops, but might also increase the chance of escalation to WW3. This sort of battle plan would also greatly increase Ukrainian civilian casualties.

    If I accept all the pro-Ukraine reports at face value I would guess that Russia is using the C-team (third string) in Ukraine for the SMO. This was partially true for a time with militia and Wagner playing a serious role in the combat (including convict soldiers). If it is true they are using lower tier resources, this could suggest Russia expects a wider war at any time and is not overcommitting to the Ukraine theater. "Expects" meaning their leadership is obligated to prepare and hold forces at the ready. If Russia gets cornered by a multi-front war with the West they can always take out Kharkov and Kiev. Take out as in destroy, not conquer.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  992. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023
     
    Russian economy shrank 2.1% in 2022 and government projections range from 2.8% to 3.5% in 2023.

    So at best, it is 1.4% improvement 2022-2023.

    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    German GDP grew 1.8% in 2022 and is expected to decline by .4% in 2023.

    French GDP grew 2.5% in 2022 and is expected to grow .8% in 2023.

    Europe is going down the drain.
     
    Well, since the war began, under the most optimistic projections for Russia, it's economy has performed about the same as Germany’s and worse than both the UK and France.

    Do you believe Europeans won’t have gas or food this winter? Did you believe that last winter?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @Mr. XYZ

    Some corrections of AP statistics especially on Russia.

    GDP annual growth rates (%):

    Russia…..-2.1 (2022)…….5.5 (2023)

    France……2.6……………….0.6

    Germany..1.9……………….-0.4

    UK…………4.1………………..0.3

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    With an adjoiner:

    Russia’s military spending in 2024 will increase to 7.1% of its gross domestic product (GDP), accounting for 35% of total government spending,
    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/russia-s-military-spending-in-2024-estimated-at-140b-report-shows/3081698

    It's not real growth and he isn't fixing the underlying economy by spending money on the war.

    And these numbers are exaggerated since Putin can't be relied upon for any figure.

    Their claimed infantry numbers were clearly bullshit when they started drafting.

    Half the Russian military appears to have existed on paper.

    Does this look like a healthy economy?

    Russians stand in line for eggs
    https://www.newsweek.com/videos-show-massive-lines-eggs-russia-prices-skyrocket-1852279

    , @AP
    @Derer


    Some corrections of AP statistics especially on Russia.
     
    Why do you post nonsense when everything is available?

    GDP annual growth rates (%):

    Russia…..-2.1 (2022)…….5.5 (2023)
     
    Here is the most recent:

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-economic-growth-slow-2024-high-interest-rates-linger-2023-12-22/

    Russia's gross domestic product is expected to outperform early expectations and grow 3.1% this yea

    Putin is a bit more optimistic:

    Russia's GDP expected to grow by 3.5% in 2023 — Putin

    The 5.5% figure you cited was probably the figure for the third quarter. You were too illiterate to understand what you read.

    France……2.6……………….0.6
     
    It was 2.5% in 2022. As for 2023, latest projecton from December 19:

    https://www.banque-france.fr/system/files/2023-12/macroeconomic_projections_december-2023.pdf

    " the latest information available suggests a slight downward revision
    of growth for 2023 to 0.8%"

    Germany..1.9……………….-0.4
     
    About the same as what I wrote.

    UK…………4.1………………..0.3
     
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/bulletins/quarterlynationalaccounts/julytoseptember2023#:~:text=UK%20GDP%20is%20estimated%20to,one%20coherent%20estimate%20of%20GDP.

    UK GDP is estimated to have increased by 4.3% in 2022, unrevised from the first estimate.

    :::::::::::::::::

    The bottom line:

    Since the war began (2022-2023) Russia's economy has performed worse than that of the UK and France, and about the same as the German economy. As for the 4th largest European economy, Italy - it too has performed better in 2022-2023 than has Russia. Italy had 3.7% growth in 2022 and .7% growth in 2023.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locations=IT

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/bank-italy-cuts-2024-gdp-forecast-06-sees-inflation-below-2-2023-12-15/

    So it is a fantasy that since the war began, Russia's economy has performed better than has the economy of Europe. It has tied Germany but has fallen further behind the UK, France, and Italy.

    Replies: @Derer

  993. @Barbarossa
    @LatW

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW, @songbird, @LatW

    Deadly chef seems to be a common Japanese trope for waifus.

    Possibly because it makes for a good visual gag, when things are drawn and open to exaggeration. But maybe for some more interesting but obscure reason. Like how they appreciate imperfections.

  994. @LatW
    @Derer


    After the collapse of the communist countries and the Soviets the Zakarpattia should have been returned to Eurozone Slovakia
     
    Should Kenig have been returned to Germany (or even better - given to Lithuania)?

    And if Russia can take Crimea, can Taganrog be returned to Ukraine?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Derer

    My issue is Zakarpattia and Versailles. I accept only intelligent comments.

    • Replies: @LatW
    @Derer


    My issue is Zakarpattia and Versailles.
     
    Why, you don't want to play Beckow's game of "but what about them? You must be consistent!!!!" LOL
  995. Rural Russians remind me of Blacks.

    In theory they support criticizing the government but once they have a seemingly smart guy in charge they will back him to the bitter end. Criticizing your leader is a luxury of Whites. Blacks subconsciously feel like they don’t have enough potential leaders and will look the other way on practically anything. Marion Barry was caught smoking crack and was re-elected.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @John Johnson


    Rural Russians remind me of Blacks.
     
    Not only blacks of US Appalachia but any colour farmers living in wooden shacks that are destroyed by tornadoes every second years.
  996. @songbird
    @LatW


    the hero, who is more of an individual on his own, is the good character
     
    And kind of unmasculine too.

    And the other hero, the masculine one, the mute, was coincidentally very foreign-looking. Of course, we can make excuses and say he is supposed to be strange to highlight how greatly he has sinned, how far he has run to get from his past. But the film is so nihilistic and deconstructive that it is hard not to see his casting as the intersection of modern politics.

    My gosh, who makes these things… I think what I noticed was that in both movies, neither religious tradition is represented in a very positive light

     

    It is amusing how they can make a film set in the 13th century and not even try to have the same reverence that was common in a 20th century peasant.

    And the cretins who pass for professional critics will always say, "they got the dirt right."

    Thus the ending scene with him in the boat, that looks like those old Celtic currachs, watching over the sea: “Where to now?”

     

    They existed pretty well into modern times. My great grandfather probably used one - his father almost certainly - with the difference being they were made of tarred canvas, rather than leather. Each area had its own design.

    Don't remember the boat scene too well. Granted, currachs probably made it to at least Iceland and possibly Greenland. But they were very dangerous. It is very comical to me - if that was the idea they were going for. Each currach had a bottle of holy water and rosary beads, tied inside of it. Fishermen were extremely clannish, with their own "kings." No man had his own boat but each a crew.

    The life of a fisherman was often a short one. Men often lived through their children, if they lived long enough to have them.

    Replies: @LatW

    And kind of unmasculine too.

    He had not yet grown into his masculinity, but maybe they purposefully selected this boy as the good character (to make him less “threatening”). I did like him, but mostly out of pity, because he was so obedient and “decent”, yet was subjected to unduly strain, he was shown as to be very perceptive of the nastiness of the Crusaders, “who had no morals”. And then finally he started making his own decisions, which is also kind of dubious, because you have to follow the leadership in such quests (but they made the leader priest into a complete scumbag). So you can see an excuse for individualism and rejection of authority there.

    [MORE]

    And the other hero, the masculine one, the mute, was coincidentally very foreign-looking.

    I felt great pity for Mute, they used him. I think his character was meant to inspire pity, as someone whose loyalty is a bit slavish, and who means well but is used for “higher goals” of others. Or maybe a dumb person who follows Christianity? That’s even worse. Was he supposed to be some kind of “black Irish”? He doesn’t really pass for one very well. Oh, the actor is Jewish (eye roll). So now we have to feel like we owe him… sigh.

    The character who was supposed to be masculine was portrayed as “evil” (which is ok, since those two are not mutually exclusive, but they don’t have to always be together). However… it was over the top. Although the actor looked really hot in this type of attire and with a beard, the actor is a bit more delicate in real life (Richard Armitage), but he looked much more menacing in this role. But too cruel and “evil” (although he wouldn’t be cruel to a woman). He was supposed to be unlikable.

    I liked some of the visuals, such as the forest and the ocean scenes, and there was a lot of suspense, but, as to the cast, yes, it’s kind of woke, now that you mention. But notice how there were no women there, maybe they couldn’t find a “superwoman” for this type of setting. LOL the way they do with the warrior princesses in viking movies.

    It is amusing how they can make a film set in the 13th century and not even try to have the same reverence that was common in a 20th century peasant.

    I think they don’t want Europeans to have any solid, traditional religious convictions. Because they view those as shackles. Well, some individualism is appealing, but then you do end up with the question “Where to now?” – so that part was accurate. They need develop a deeper and more meaningful theme that derives from this individualism to show how it benefits Europeans as a society and as people. Not just separate human beings. Maybe they tried, because those characters ended up surviving. At least the boy.

    Granted, currachs probably made it to at least Iceland and possibly Greenland.

    I think there were some Norsemen who sailed around Ireland, especially in the Western part. They were called Westmen, this was before much of recorded history, from what I gather. And, yes, Iceland is part Irish genetically, the wives, I saw an exhibit about it in a history museum in Reykjavik. It’s at the very beginning of the exhibition (where they show the first couple of Iceland).

    The life of a fisherman was often a short one.

    Did I ever tell you about a Latvian drama about how a bunch of fishermen got stuck on an ice float in the open sea? They made a really gloomy movie about it in the 1970s.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @LatW


    Was he supposed to be some kind of “black Irish”?
     
    They often seem to cast half Italians as "black Irish." And they still look odd to me.

    But I got the idea that he was supposed to be a foreigner, gone to the edge of civilization. Opposite direction of the Middle East, to escape his past there. Vaguely, I guessed a Greek (were there Greeks in the Crusades?) But that might be just me trying to put the most reasonable frame (distance-wise) on his alien appearance.

    There were actually some foreigners who made pilgramage to Ireland. For example, to visit this cave:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick%27s_Purgatory

    I think they don’t want Europeans to have any solid, traditional religious convictions.
     
    I think that is true, but also that they wouldn't know how to do it, even if they wanted to, because it is alien to their own sentiments.

    Did I ever tell you about a Latvian drama about how a bunch of fishermen got stuck on an ice float in the open sea?
     
    Did that happen in modern times?

    Sea ice is very romantic to me because it is uncommon in my area and reminds me of Shackleton's Boat journey and the Brendan Voyage (a recreation of currach crossing the Atlantic).

    Replies: @LatW

  997. @Derer
    @LatW

    My issue is Zakarpattia and Versailles. I accept only intelligent comments.

    Replies: @LatW

    My issue is Zakarpattia and Versailles.

    Why, you don’t want to play Beckow’s game of “but what about them? You must be consistent!!!!” LOL

  998. @songbird
    @S


    The air to air nuclear missiles were a part of that I suppose, until someone realized it was overkill to use a nuclear bomb to take out a single airplane.
     
    Must have been pretty hair-raising to fire - original version had a 12s fuse.

    But I think they made good sense for the time because homing technology was limited to start with, and WW2 had involved big formations of bombers. And they seem to have had limited escalatory potential, as they were only designed against aircraft and meant to be used after visual confirmation.

    Thousands were made. They seem to have had them in stockpiles, at least into the mid '80s. Canada too.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/air-air-nuke-could-have-decimated-bomber-fleets-no-problem-193157

    I think they got rid of them because nuclear bombers had essentially become obsolete, with the advent of advanced intercontinental ballistic missiles on the Soviet side in the mid '70s.

    They definitely liked nuclear tech back then, but I think we've moved too much in the opposite direction. No reason why we shouldn't be building experimental reactors on some isolated atoll in the Pacific.

    Replies: @S

    That would make sense that the nuclear air to air missiles, as designed, were intended to take out a fleet of aircraft.

    As an aside, some of the earlier jet fighters from the 1950’s had horrible accident rates.

    [MORE]

    Of the 2294 F-100 Super Sabres in service with the US Air Force (USAF) between 1954-1972 889 of the planes were destroyed in ‘accidents’.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-100_Super_Sabre

    Over the lifetime of its USAF service, 889 F-100s were destroyed in accidents, resulting in the deaths of 324 pilots. The deadliest year for F-100 accidents was 1958, which saw 116 aircraft destroyed and 47 pilots killed.

    The F-104 Starfighter (Starship fighter? Hehe!) featured in the Star Trek clip was even worse in comparison safety wise for the USAF. The Canadian’s lost 46 percent of their F-104’s due to accidents. The Germans, who nicknamed the F-104 ‘the widow-maker’, lost nearly a third of theirs in accidents.

    So maybe the Enterprise did a real favor beaming Captain Christopher safely on to the Enterprise, because it seems with or without the Enterprise ‘tractor beam’ there was a real chance the F-104 would of ‘broke up’ anyway. [To be fair, maybe the high accident rates for the early jets was something that just came with the territory, irregardless of which plane you might be flying or which air force you were flying for.]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-104_Starfighter

    The cumulative destroyed rate of the F-104 Starfighter in USAF service as of 31 December 1983 was 25.2 aircraft destroyed per 100,000 flight hours. This is the highest accident rate of any of the USAF Century Series fighters.

    • Thanks: songbird
  999. @LatW
    @Mikhail

    They were given a fraction of what they requested (and no air cover). Are you following what is happening with the Russian Black Sea fleet? All the ships are now in Novorossiysk, hiding there, and yesterday in Feodosia the Ukes burned a ship.

    Incredible work, if you think about it.

    Replies: @Mikhail

    The Germans after Stalingrad, Kursk and Normandy were still able to do some “incredible work” against the Allies. Kiev regime never had a chance.

  1000. @Derer
    @AP

    Some corrections of AP statistics especially on Russia.

    GDP annual growth rates (%):


    Russia.....-2.1 (2022).......5.5 (2023)

    France......2.6...................0.6

    Germany..1.9...................-0.4

    UK............4.1....................0.3

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    With an adjoiner:

    Russia’s military spending in 2024 will increase to 7.1% of its gross domestic product (GDP), accounting for 35% of total government spending,
    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/russia-s-military-spending-in-2024-estimated-at-140b-report-shows/3081698

    It’s not real growth and he isn’t fixing the underlying economy by spending money on the war.

    And these numbers are exaggerated since Putin can’t be relied upon for any figure.

    Their claimed infantry numbers were clearly bullshit when they started drafting.

    Half the Russian military appears to have existed on paper.

    Does this look like a healthy economy?

    Russians stand in line for eggs
    https://www.newsweek.com/videos-show-massive-lines-eggs-russia-prices-skyrocket-1852279

  1001. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I assume the Russian military thinks about these things strategically, not in the warm and fuzzy feel-good terms of Unz commenters.

    Why would you assume that? They were caught on video telling conscripts to scrounge for tampons (for bullet wounds). That means their existing inventory was woefully inadequate.

    What kind of military doesn't maintain enough basic med kits? Let's say that was some kind of oversight.

    Then what is the excuse for sending in clusters of men when Ukraine has decent artillery? That's not strategic thinking unless you want them killed.

    There are multiple videos of them doing exactly that and I can provide them if you want. Videos where men are huddled together when walking and a single shell destroys the entire group. What the hell are they teaching in basic training?

    Russian generals are ignoring lessons from 1914. You can also see this in their trench construction where they will stop at a shallow trench instead of digging out a German style bunker.

    The Russian Kiev invasion plan depended on them taking a single airport. What if the Ukrainians took or destroyed it? They had no backup plan. Does that sound like strategic thinking? Well it didn't work. You describe the commentors as fuzzy-feel good and which second largest military in the world was pushed out of Kiev? After Ukrainians correctly guessed the airport and had artillery waiting?

    This war from the start appears to be a bunch of rash decision made by drunk assholes that ignore history. Maybe you could suggest it all comes from Putin but I highly doubt it. The Russians made these same mistakes in WW1 and also the Winter War. As a people they just don't seem to value certain lessons until they learn them the hard way. And then they forget them 20-30 years later.

    Replies: @QCIC

    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall with a diverse mixture of advanced aircraft, submarines, ships, satellites, strategic missile defenses, etc. I don’t know the answers to your questions. Bad things happen in war and mistakes are made. I believe that Russia could level much more of Ukrainian infrastructure with missile and air-strikes. This could in turn greatly weaken the supply chain for many of the Ukrainian troops, but might also increase the chance of escalation to WW3. This sort of battle plan would also greatly increase Ukrainian civilian casualties.

    If I accept all the pro-Ukraine reports at face value I would guess that Russia is using the C-team (third string) in Ukraine for the SMO. This was partially true for a time with militia and Wagner playing a serious role in the combat (including convict soldiers). If it is true they are using lower tier resources, this could suggest Russia expects a wider war at any time and is not overcommitting to the Ukraine theater. “Expects” meaning their leadership is obligated to prepare and hold forces at the ready. If Russia gets cornered by a multi-front war with the West they can always take out Kharkov and Kiev. Take out as in destroy, not conquer.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall

    You just don't seem to be in touch with the reality in front of you.

    I believe that Russia could level much more of Ukrainian infrastructure with missile and air-strikes.

    Do you deny that Russia is currently relying on Iranian 2 stroke drones to attack cities? And North Korean ammo for their artillery?

    The Russian military is not what it claimed to be on paper before this war.

    Much of it was sold off without any expectation that would actually be used.

    Have a look at this unsupported attack:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuPBq67J9F4

    Are you going to tell us that is what a well equipped military looks like? Sending men across frozen plains without armor support?

    Those men are AGAIN too close for being in range of enemy artillery. Not as bad as last year but it still looks like a LARP festival.

    If I accept all the pro-Ukraine reports at face value I would guess that Russia is using the C-team (third string) in Ukraine for the SMO.

    Ritter made the same claim last year. He said they were holding back the real force for the Great Winter Offensive. Well it never happened. What evidence do you have that some A team exists? ISW has never made such claims. Is there a secret bunker somewhere? This isn't WW2 where you can hide an entire army. Private satellites can track every single vehicle that moves inside of Russia.

    If Russia gets cornered by a multi-front war with the West they can always take out Kharkov and Kiev. Take out as in destroy, not conquer.

    Which would mean killing ethnic Russians and cementing Putin as a loser who couldn't win properly.

    A more likely scenario is that Putin drafts every last man and sends them to the front on horseback and with Nagants. He wants to go down as a war hero and not a loser Tsar. Well too late for that.

    Replies: @QCIC

  1002. @Barbarossa
    @LatW

    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @LatW, @songbird, @LatW

    knowing how to cook

    Btw, how are your bantam chickens doing? Still mounting all the ladies? 🙂 Don’t worry, we won’t cook them – they are too pretty. 🙂

  1003. Change the words of the Fiddler on the Roof song from tradition to: attrition, attrition…

  1004. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall with a diverse mixture of advanced aircraft, submarines, ships, satellites, strategic missile defenses, etc. I don't know the answers to your questions. Bad things happen in war and mistakes are made. I believe that Russia could level much more of Ukrainian infrastructure with missile and air-strikes. This could in turn greatly weaken the supply chain for many of the Ukrainian troops, but might also increase the chance of escalation to WW3. This sort of battle plan would also greatly increase Ukrainian civilian casualties.

    If I accept all the pro-Ukraine reports at face value I would guess that Russia is using the C-team (third string) in Ukraine for the SMO. This was partially true for a time with militia and Wagner playing a serious role in the combat (including convict soldiers). If it is true they are using lower tier resources, this could suggest Russia expects a wider war at any time and is not overcommitting to the Ukraine theater. "Expects" meaning their leadership is obligated to prepare and hold forces at the ready. If Russia gets cornered by a multi-front war with the West they can always take out Kharkov and Kiev. Take out as in destroy, not conquer.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall

    You just don’t seem to be in touch with the reality in front of you.

    I believe that Russia could level much more of Ukrainian infrastructure with missile and air-strikes.

    Do you deny that Russia is currently relying on Iranian 2 stroke drones to attack cities? And North Korean ammo for their artillery?

    The Russian military is not what it claimed to be on paper before this war.

    Much of it was sold off without any expectation that would actually be used.

    Have a look at this unsupported attack:

    Are you going to tell us that is what a well equipped military looks like? Sending men across frozen plains without armor support?

    Those men are AGAIN too close for being in range of enemy artillery. Not as bad as last year but it still looks like a LARP festival.

    If I accept all the pro-Ukraine reports at face value I would guess that Russia is using the C-team (third string) in Ukraine for the SMO.

    Ritter made the same claim last year. He said they were holding back the real force for the Great Winter Offensive. Well it never happened. What evidence do you have that some A team exists? ISW has never made such claims. Is there a secret bunker somewhere? This isn’t WW2 where you can hide an entire army. Private satellites can track every single vehicle that moves inside of Russia.

    If Russia gets cornered by a multi-front war with the West they can always take out Kharkov and Kiev. Take out as in destroy, not conquer.

    Which would mean killing ethnic Russians and cementing Putin as a loser who couldn’t win properly.

    A more likely scenario is that Putin drafts every last man and sends them to the front on horseback and with Nagants. He wants to go down as a war hero and not a loser Tsar. Well too late for that.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned. Their military receives new hardware deliveries on a regular basis. They do not have enough equipment to take over the world and that doesn't seem to be their plan. I think the Russian goal is to have enough conventional military power to protect her buffer areas and avoid escalation to nuclear weapons use if possible. They developed Sarmat, Avangard, Poseidon and other massively expensive weapon systems to make the point that they will not be pressured by USA nuclear weapons and ABM systems.

    As I have implied before, I think the Russians can effectively level Ukraine and do not want to do this. On the other hand, they are either unable or unwilling to "conquer" it in the way you think they should. So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign 'mercenaries' while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources. While the Russians have serious losses in some engagements they are probably prevailing overwhelmingly in the numbers game. If that doesn't work they can always attack the infrastructure more heavily. I expect this could happen if Ukraine becomes more heavily armed by the West.

    There is no shame in admitting you don't know the Russian plan.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @John Johnson

  1005. @LatW
    @songbird


    And kind of unmasculine too.
     
    He had not yet grown into his masculinity, but maybe they purposefully selected this boy as the good character (to make him less "threatening"). I did like him, but mostly out of pity, because he was so obedient and "decent", yet was subjected to unduly strain, he was shown as to be very perceptive of the nastiness of the Crusaders, "who had no morals". And then finally he started making his own decisions, which is also kind of dubious, because you have to follow the leadership in such quests (but they made the leader priest into a complete scumbag). So you can see an excuse for individualism and rejection of authority there.

    And the other hero, the masculine one, the mute, was coincidentally very foreign-looking.
     
    I felt great pity for Mute, they used him. I think his character was meant to inspire pity, as someone whose loyalty is a bit slavish, and who means well but is used for "higher goals" of others. Or maybe a dumb person who follows Christianity? That's even worse. Was he supposed to be some kind of "black Irish"? He doesn't really pass for one very well. Oh, the actor is Jewish (eye roll). So now we have to feel like we owe him... sigh.

    The character who was supposed to be masculine was portrayed as "evil" (which is ok, since those two are not mutually exclusive, but they don't have to always be together). However... it was over the top. Although the actor looked really hot in this type of attire and with a beard, the actor is a bit more delicate in real life (Richard Armitage), but he looked much more menacing in this role. But too cruel and "evil" (although he wouldn't be cruel to a woman). He was supposed to be unlikable.

    I liked some of the visuals, such as the forest and the ocean scenes, and there was a lot of suspense, but, as to the cast, yes, it's kind of woke, now that you mention. But notice how there were no women there, maybe they couldn't find a "superwoman" for this type of setting. LOL the way they do with the warrior princesses in viking movies.


    It is amusing how they can make a film set in the 13th century and not even try to have the same reverence that was common in a 20th century peasant.
     
    I think they don't want Europeans to have any solid, traditional religious convictions. Because they view those as shackles. Well, some individualism is appealing, but then you do end up with the question "Where to now?" - so that part was accurate. They need develop a deeper and more meaningful theme that derives from this individualism to show how it benefits Europeans as a society and as people. Not just separate human beings. Maybe they tried, because those characters ended up surviving. At least the boy.

    Granted, currachs probably made it to at least Iceland and possibly Greenland.
     
    I think there were some Norsemen who sailed around Ireland, especially in the Western part. They were called Westmen, this was before much of recorded history, from what I gather. And, yes, Iceland is part Irish genetically, the wives, I saw an exhibit about it in a history museum in Reykjavik. It's at the very beginning of the exhibition (where they show the first couple of Iceland).

    The life of a fisherman was often a short one.
     
    Did I ever tell you about a Latvian drama about how a bunch of fishermen got stuck on an ice float in the open sea? They made a really gloomy movie about it in the 1970s.

    Replies: @songbird

    Was he supposed to be some kind of “black Irish”?

    They often seem to cast half Italians as “black Irish.” And they still look odd to me.

    [MORE]

    But I got the idea that he was supposed to be a foreigner, gone to the edge of civilization. Opposite direction of the Middle East, to escape his past there. Vaguely, I guessed a Greek (were there Greeks in the Crusades?) But that might be just me trying to put the most reasonable frame (distance-wise) on his alien appearance.

    There were actually some foreigners who made pilgramage to Ireland. For example, to visit this cave:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick%27s_Purgatory

    I think they don’t want Europeans to have any solid, traditional religious convictions.

    I think that is true, but also that they wouldn’t know how to do it, even if they wanted to, because it is alien to their own sentiments.

    Did I ever tell you about a Latvian drama about how a bunch of fishermen got stuck on an ice float in the open sea?

    Did that happen in modern times?

    Sea ice is very romantic to me because it is uncommon in my area and reminds me of Shackleton’s Boat journey and the Brendan Voyage (a recreation of currach crossing the Atlantic).

    • Replies: @LatW
    @songbird


    But I got the idea that he was supposed to be a foreigner, gone to the edge of civilization.
     
    Oh, that's right, he was foreign and a former Crusader who was supposed to pay back for his sins, so he was serving them as some beast of burden. The idea was that he was "exploited", that the priest would make people do things to receive an indulgence. The cross tattoo on his back was a little much (as if he was the slave of the Christians).

    I think that black Irish have straight or wavy hair (kind of ashen black) and very pale skin.


    I think that is true, but also that they wouldn’t know how to do it, even if they wanted to, because it is alien to their own sentiments.
     
    I doubt they're able to relate to it, yet they are compelled to produce a "message". But at least they mentioned a few older traditions. Visually though these movies are good.

    I'm trying to think which movies portrayed Christians in a positive light... there are probably many, but the only one I can think of from the top of my head is the Polish Quo Vadis (the 2001 version, I haven't seen the older one). It is about Nero persecuting Christians. It has this horrific scene of a group of people being thrown to the lions in a colosseum that is super difficult to watch. They literally show real lions mauling them. But in that historical setting, I don't like the Roman legionaries portrayed in a negative light either (but they always are).


    Did that happen in modern times?
     
    Don't know if it happened in real life (quite possible), but it's based on a novel from 1899. They are doing underwater fishing during winter, and the ice floe breaks away and eventually shrinks as it floats in the open sea. And then their personalities show (they have to draw lots about who gets to eat the horse, etc). It's called In the Shadow of Death.

    Sea ice is very romantic to me because it is uncommon in my area
     
    Ireland is much, much warmer.
  1006. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall

    You just don't seem to be in touch with the reality in front of you.

    I believe that Russia could level much more of Ukrainian infrastructure with missile and air-strikes.

    Do you deny that Russia is currently relying on Iranian 2 stroke drones to attack cities? And North Korean ammo for their artillery?

    The Russian military is not what it claimed to be on paper before this war.

    Much of it was sold off without any expectation that would actually be used.

    Have a look at this unsupported attack:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuPBq67J9F4

    Are you going to tell us that is what a well equipped military looks like? Sending men across frozen plains without armor support?

    Those men are AGAIN too close for being in range of enemy artillery. Not as bad as last year but it still looks like a LARP festival.

    If I accept all the pro-Ukraine reports at face value I would guess that Russia is using the C-team (third string) in Ukraine for the SMO.

    Ritter made the same claim last year. He said they were holding back the real force for the Great Winter Offensive. Well it never happened. What evidence do you have that some A team exists? ISW has never made such claims. Is there a secret bunker somewhere? This isn't WW2 where you can hide an entire army. Private satellites can track every single vehicle that moves inside of Russia.

    If Russia gets cornered by a multi-front war with the West they can always take out Kharkov and Kiev. Take out as in destroy, not conquer.

    Which would mean killing ethnic Russians and cementing Putin as a loser who couldn't win properly.

    A more likely scenario is that Putin drafts every last man and sends them to the front on horseback and with Nagants. He wants to go down as a war hero and not a loser Tsar. Well too late for that.

    Replies: @QCIC

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned. Their military receives new hardware deliveries on a regular basis. They do not have enough equipment to take over the world and that doesn’t seem to be their plan. I think the Russian goal is to have enough conventional military power to protect her buffer areas and avoid escalation to nuclear weapons use if possible. They developed Sarmat, Avangard, Poseidon and other massively expensive weapon systems to make the point that they will not be pressured by USA nuclear weapons and ABM systems.

    As I have implied before, I think the Russians can effectively level Ukraine and do not want to do this. On the other hand, they are either unable or unwilling to “conquer” it in the way you think they should. So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign ‘mercenaries’ while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources. While the Russians have serious losses in some engagements they are probably prevailing overwhelmingly in the numbers game. If that doesn’t work they can always attack the infrastructure more heavily. I expect this could happen if Ukraine becomes more heavily armed by the West.

    There is no shame in admitting you don’t know the Russian plan.

    • Replies: @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    He doesn't mention Biden earlier (before the report saying the DPRK is giving arms to Russia) asking South Korea to help arm the Kiev regime on account of the US having supply problems. Likewise, the NYT said Russia has a 7 to 1 advantage over the entire collective West when it comes to artillery shell production.

    So much for a married moron who thinks he's stable on the mere account of being married as claimed - as if that's synonymous with being sane and rational. A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

    , @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned.

    You keep making these vague statements without addressing specific points.

    Do you think it is acceptable for what is supposedly the second largest military in the world to have a shortage of basic medical kits and winter gear? You don't think that is indicative of a military that has serious supply problems?

    What is your excuse for the latest video showing a Russian nest with a Maxim machine gun (1884 design)? Is that acceptable for a modern military in any context?

    So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign ‘mercenaries’ while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources.

    You believe they are conserving military resources? Why did they draft conscripts if they supposedly have over 1 million troops?

    There is no shame in admitting you don’t know the Russian plan.

    I don't think Russia has a plan. I think they expected a quick victory and have been winging it ever since.

    They outnumber Ukraine in manpower and it is certainly possible that they will walk with a chunk of Ukraine.

    It is also possible that the Russian frontline could collapse or a civil war inside Russia could take off...again This could go a lot of ways. Putin has not been honest from the beginning (It's a training exercise) and no one knows the true state of their economy. Based on interviews I do not believe that Putin was aware of his own trade dependencies. He seemed genuinely upset over production limitations as if they were artificial. I don't think he was aware of how dependent they became on Western computer chips in the last 20 years. The Russian economy could collapse but up until the last minute Putin would have everyone convinced that it is fine and any negativity is Western propaganda.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail, @Sean

  1007. @LatW
    @Barbarossa


    I firmly believe that life is far too short for crap food (or crap anything else for that matter) and that knowing how to cook well should be considered a basic life skill.
     
    And you're posting this to me....er, exactly why? Are you assuming I can't cook good dishes just because I watched an entertaining food blog? I was just co-miserating with Dmitry since he hadn't seemed to be able to make a nice bowl of dumplings (and that he didn't have better food available). The darn 90s in Russia...

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    I was generally heartily agreeing with you : )
    I apologize if it seemed random.

    • Thanks: LatW
  1008. @AP
    @Mikel


    There was some very ugly stuff going on during the Russian attack on Mariupol with all those failed attempts to evacuate civilians. I don’t know what exactly happened there but from a military and political perspective it’s not easy to imagine the Russians being interested in having lots of civilians living in the city they were trying to storm.
     
    The fault for this tragedy lies with Russia for invading.

    Of course, the Western media all went along with the Kiev narrative that the Russians not only wanted to occupy the city but also to kill as many (Russian speaking) civilians as possible
     
    My impression was that it was just total disregard for civilian life during the course of capturing the city, rather than deliberate attempt to kill as many as possible. Russians civilians were killed by Russian forces in Chechnya, too IIRC.

    and they were the only ones sabotaging the evacuation efforts
     
    This was fairly early in the war. Since then, Ukraine has done a good job evacuating most civilians. Ukrainians complain that civilian presence make it harder to defend the cities because they have to mind the civilians. The ones who stay behind tend to be either extremely unfortunate immobile invalids, or pro-Russians ones who are willing to risk their lives to get under Russian rule. There are still around 1,000 civilians left in Avdiivka (prewar population 32,000).

    The Azovs keeping hundreds of civilians inside the Azovstal catacombs along with them was quite unseemly too.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/24/world/europe/ukraine-war-mariupol-azovstal.html

    It looks like both civilians and troops (including Azov but also regular military) took shelter there, and ended up being trapped together. At least one of their civilians joined Azov. That massive steel mill/bunker with deep bomb shelters was probably a lot safer than some of the apartment buildings that were flattened during the war for the city. The presence of the civilians was inconvenient for the defenders (more mouths to feed, they had to be more careful).

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    This was fairly early in the war. Since then, Ukraine has done a good job evacuating most civilians. Ukrainians complain that civilian presence make it harder to defend the cities because they have to mind the civilians. The ones who stay behind tend to be either extremely unfortunate immobile invalids, or pro-Russians ones who are willing to risk their lives to get under Russian rule. There are still around 1,000 civilians left in Avdiivka (prewar population 32,000).

    Seems like the East Slavic lands have a great ability to evacuate people during war. This was also evidenced during WWII. Of course, this isn’t exclusively limited to those lands. A lot of Iraqis (hundreds of thousands of people, IIRC) successfully fled from Mosul when ISIS was about to conquer it in 2014 (and did, in fact, and held it for three years afterwards).

  1009. @AP
    @AnonfromTN


    While European economies are either not growing or contracting, Russian economy grew by >3% in 2023
     
    Russian economy shrank 2.1% in 2022 and government projections range from 2.8% to 3.5% in 2023.

    So at best, it is 1.4% improvement 2022-2023.

    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    German GDP grew 1.8% in 2022 and is expected to decline by .4% in 2023.

    French GDP grew 2.5% in 2022 and is expected to grow .8% in 2023.

    Europe is going down the drain.
     
    Well, since the war began, under the most optimistic projections for Russia, it's economy has performed about the same as Germany’s and worse than both the UK and France.

    Do you believe Europeans won’t have gas or food this winter? Did you believe that last winter?

    Replies: @AnonfromTN, @Derer, @Mr. XYZ

    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    What made Britain grow so strongly? It couldn’t have been immigration since it only increased the British population by, what? 1%? 1.5%?

    • Replies: @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    What made Britain grow so strongly?
     

    Don't know. 2022 was a good year for Europe (other than Russia) though. France grew 2.5%, Italy 3.7%, Poland 5.3%, Spain 5.8%, Netherlands 4.3%.

    Replies: @QCIC

  1010. @AP
    @Jazman

    Pro-Russian but too dumb to be an actual Russian.

    You are a Serb, right?

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ

    At least Serbs should get credit for being non-homicidal for their level of average IQ. Almost as dull as US blacks are but roughly as homicidal as US whites are. Very impressive!

  1011. @Derer
    @AP

    Some corrections of AP statistics especially on Russia.

    GDP annual growth rates (%):


    Russia.....-2.1 (2022).......5.5 (2023)

    France......2.6...................0.6

    Germany..1.9...................-0.4

    UK............4.1....................0.3

    Replies: @John Johnson, @AP

    Some corrections of AP statistics especially on Russia.

    Why do you post nonsense when everything is available?

    GDP annual growth rates (%):

    Russia…..-2.1 (2022)…….5.5 (2023)

    Here is the most recent:

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-economic-growth-slow-2024-high-interest-rates-linger-2023-12-22/

    Russia’s gross domestic product is expected to outperform early expectations and grow 3.1% this yea

    Putin is a bit more optimistic:

    Russia’s GDP expected to grow by 3.5% in 2023 — Putin

    The 5.5% figure you cited was probably the figure for the third quarter. You were too illiterate to understand what you read.

    France……2.6……………….0.6

    It was 2.5% in 2022. As for 2023, latest projecton from December 19:

    https://www.banque-france.fr/system/files/2023-12/macroeconomic_projections_december-2023.pdf

    ” the latest information available suggests a slight downward revision
    of growth for 2023 to 0.8%”

    Germany..1.9……………….-0.4

    About the same as what I wrote.

    UK…………4.1………………..0.3

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/bulletins/quarterlynationalaccounts/julytoseptember2023#:~:text=UK%20GDP%20is%20estimated%20to,one%20coherent%20estimate%20of%20GDP.

    UK GDP is estimated to have increased by 4.3% in 2022, unrevised from the first estimate.

    :::::::::::::::::

    The bottom line:

    Since the war began (2022-2023) Russia’s economy has performed worse than that of the UK and France, and about the same as the German economy. As for the 4th largest European economy, Italy – it too has performed better in 2022-2023 than has Russia. Italy had 3.7% growth in 2022 and .7% growth in 2023.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locations=IT

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/bank-italy-cuts-2024-gdp-forecast-06-sees-inflation-below-2-2023-12-15/

    So it is a fantasy that since the war began, Russia’s economy has performed better than has the economy of Europe. It has tied Germany but has fallen further behind the UK, France, and Italy.

    • Replies: @Derer
    @AP

    At the beginning of this thread, it says: "TO MINIMIZE THE LOAD, PLEASE CONTINUE TO LIMIT YOUR" garbage. It says "PLEASE"! Why the F you repeating your useless garbage, for current info go to : tradingeconomiccom and study it you stubborn arse. Another site economywatch.com.

    Replies: @AP

  1012. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned. Their military receives new hardware deliveries on a regular basis. They do not have enough equipment to take over the world and that doesn't seem to be their plan. I think the Russian goal is to have enough conventional military power to protect her buffer areas and avoid escalation to nuclear weapons use if possible. They developed Sarmat, Avangard, Poseidon and other massively expensive weapon systems to make the point that they will not be pressured by USA nuclear weapons and ABM systems.

    As I have implied before, I think the Russians can effectively level Ukraine and do not want to do this. On the other hand, they are either unable or unwilling to "conquer" it in the way you think they should. So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign 'mercenaries' while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources. While the Russians have serious losses in some engagements they are probably prevailing overwhelmingly in the numbers game. If that doesn't work they can always attack the infrastructure more heavily. I expect this could happen if Ukraine becomes more heavily armed by the West.

    There is no shame in admitting you don't know the Russian plan.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @John Johnson

    He doesn’t mention Biden earlier (before the report saying the DPRK is giving arms to Russia) asking South Korea to help arm the Kiev regime on account of the US having supply problems. Likewise, the NYT said Russia has a 7 to 1 advantage over the entire collective West when it comes to artillery shell production.

    So much for a married moron who thinks he’s stable on the mere account of being married as claimed – as if that’s synonymous with being sane and rational. A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    He doesn’t mention Biden earlier (before the report saying the DPRK is giving arms to Russia) asking South Korea to help arm the Kiev regime on account of the US having supply problems.

    There you go projecting fanboyism again.

    I never claimed that the US has plenty of artillery supply.

    The US was not prepared to contribute towards a WW1 style artillery duel.

    Canada however had a better supply of winter kits than Russia. They have been given to Ukraine.

    QCIC made this comment:
    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall

    Maybe try quoting me next time instead of assuming everyone has your fanboy brain.

    So much for a married moron who thinks he’s stable on the mere account of being married as claimed – as if that’s synonymous with being sane and rational. A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    Are you still upset that I pointed out how Putin's top US/EU bloggers are unmarried and most have criminal records or sexual harassment accusations? One of the most popular (The Duran) is a disbarred lawyer who committed fraud. We all know what Ritter did...twice.

    Men with children didn't cheer as an angry midget sent cruise missiles at Kiev. Anglin quickly decreed himself to be "Putin's #1 fanboy" but then a year later went back to ranting about Jews. Fuentes, the openly proud incel and White nationalist did a show where he thanked Putin for liberating the Ukrainians.

    Replies: @QCIC

    , @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.
     
    Are all of your brain cells in order Mickey? Err, Zelensky is happily married you DoDo.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

  1013. @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

     

    What made Britain grow so strongly? It couldn't have been immigration since it only increased the British population by, what? 1%? 1.5%?

    Replies: @AP

    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    What made Britain grow so strongly?

    Don’t know. 2022 was a good year for Europe (other than Russia) though. France grew 2.5%, Italy 3.7%, Poland 5.3%, Spain 5.8%, Netherlands 4.3%.

    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @AP

    A major economic issue of the SMO is that a very strong Western sanctions package was imposed as part of the hybrid war against Russia. This was in addition to existing sanctions in place since 2015. After two years this full group of sanctions and other financial measures have not had a drastically negative impact on Russia. Apparently the country adapted much better than the West expected. As expected, these sanctions had a negative effect on many Western countries who could no longer trade openly with Russia. In the short run the balance of impacts seems to suggest the sanctions are making Russia's economy stronger while negatively impacting the West. Therefore they are a failure.

    This could change over time, but the "protect Russia against Western aggression" mindset is probably also growing with time. The negative effects of sanctions will have less political potency as this meme grows.

  1014. @songbird
    @LatW


    Was he supposed to be some kind of “black Irish”?
     
    They often seem to cast half Italians as "black Irish." And they still look odd to me.

    But I got the idea that he was supposed to be a foreigner, gone to the edge of civilization. Opposite direction of the Middle East, to escape his past there. Vaguely, I guessed a Greek (were there Greeks in the Crusades?) But that might be just me trying to put the most reasonable frame (distance-wise) on his alien appearance.

    There were actually some foreigners who made pilgramage to Ireland. For example, to visit this cave:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick%27s_Purgatory

    I think they don’t want Europeans to have any solid, traditional religious convictions.
     
    I think that is true, but also that they wouldn't know how to do it, even if they wanted to, because it is alien to their own sentiments.

    Did I ever tell you about a Latvian drama about how a bunch of fishermen got stuck on an ice float in the open sea?
     
    Did that happen in modern times?

    Sea ice is very romantic to me because it is uncommon in my area and reminds me of Shackleton's Boat journey and the Brendan Voyage (a recreation of currach crossing the Atlantic).

    Replies: @LatW

    But I got the idea that he was supposed to be a foreigner, gone to the edge of civilization.

    Oh, that’s right, he was foreign and a former Crusader who was supposed to pay back for his sins, so he was serving them as some beast of burden. The idea was that he was “exploited”, that the priest would make people do things to receive an indulgence. The cross tattoo on his back was a little much (as if he was the slave of the Christians).

    I think that black Irish have straight or wavy hair (kind of ashen black) and very pale skin.

    [MORE]

    I think that is true, but also that they wouldn’t know how to do it, even if they wanted to, because it is alien to their own sentiments.

    I doubt they’re able to relate to it, yet they are compelled to produce a “message”. But at least they mentioned a few older traditions. Visually though these movies are good.

    I’m trying to think which movies portrayed Christians in a positive light… there are probably many, but the only one I can think of from the top of my head is the Polish Quo Vadis (the 2001 version, I haven’t seen the older one). It is about Nero persecuting Christians. It has this horrific scene of a group of people being thrown to the lions in a colosseum that is super difficult to watch. They literally show real lions mauling them. But in that historical setting, I don’t like the Roman legionaries portrayed in a negative light either (but they always are).

    Did that happen in modern times?

    Don’t know if it happened in real life (quite possible), but it’s based on a novel from 1899. They are doing underwater fishing during winter, and the ice floe breaks away and eventually shrinks as it floats in the open sea. And then their personalities show (they have to draw lots about who gets to eat the horse, etc). It’s called In the Shadow of Death.

    Sea ice is very romantic to me because it is uncommon in my area

    Ireland is much, much warmer.

    • Thanks: songbird
  1015. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned. Their military receives new hardware deliveries on a regular basis. They do not have enough equipment to take over the world and that doesn't seem to be their plan. I think the Russian goal is to have enough conventional military power to protect her buffer areas and avoid escalation to nuclear weapons use if possible. They developed Sarmat, Avangard, Poseidon and other massively expensive weapon systems to make the point that they will not be pressured by USA nuclear weapons and ABM systems.

    As I have implied before, I think the Russians can effectively level Ukraine and do not want to do this. On the other hand, they are either unable or unwilling to "conquer" it in the way you think they should. So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign 'mercenaries' while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources. While the Russians have serious losses in some engagements they are probably prevailing overwhelmingly in the numbers game. If that doesn't work they can always attack the infrastructure more heavily. I expect this could happen if Ukraine becomes more heavily armed by the West.

    There is no shame in admitting you don't know the Russian plan.

    Replies: @Mikhail, @John Johnson

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned.

    You keep making these vague statements without addressing specific points.

    Do you think it is acceptable for what is supposedly the second largest military in the world to have a shortage of basic medical kits and winter gear? You don’t think that is indicative of a military that has serious supply problems?

    What is your excuse for the latest video showing a Russian nest with a Maxim machine gun (1884 design)? Is that acceptable for a modern military in any context?

    So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign ‘mercenaries’ while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources.

    You believe they are conserving military resources? Why did they draft conscripts if they supposedly have over 1 million troops?

    There is no shame in admitting you don’t know the Russian plan.

    I don’t think Russia has a plan. I think they expected a quick victory and have been winging it ever since.

    They outnumber Ukraine in manpower and it is certainly possible that they will walk with a chunk of Ukraine.

    It is also possible that the Russian frontline could collapse or a civil war inside Russia could take off…again This could go a lot of ways. Putin has not been honest from the beginning (It’s a training exercise) and no one knows the true state of their economy. Based on interviews I do not believe that Putin was aware of his own trade dependencies. He seemed genuinely upset over production limitations as if they were artificial. I don’t think he was aware of how dependent they became on Western computer chips in the last 20 years. The Russian economy could collapse but up until the last minute Putin would have everyone convinced that it is fine and any negativity is Western propaganda.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • LOL: Mikhail
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I try to discuss the big picture because it includes some established information with important implications. If you want to discuss very specific facts on the ground in Ukraine what can I say? I don't know what they mean. The supply questions for the Russian military in the SMO have been around since the beginning. The list of items includes boots, socks, coats, food, medkits, ammo, etc. If they don't have these it seems to imply the military intentionally spent the money on nuclear weapons instead of important but non-flashy combat supplies. Was this a good choice for Russia overall, how do I know? Is it very bad for the combat troops who have to deal with the supply shortage, obviously it is. Is corruption involved, probably, but to what degree? Maybe they asked a general to make a choice, which would he chose: one fully armed Ka-52 or med kits and boots for everyone?

    It is interesting that Russia in 2022 apparently did not heavily use some advanced items which they have previously demonstrated, such as precision munitions and infrared countermeasures. From what I read, in 2023 these are being used more widely. So what does it mean? Were these items not available at all or were they being held aside for future purposes and new lots had to be made specifically for the SMO? I don't know, it could be either.

    The Iranian drones are interesting. Russia has built drones for decades, why use ones from Iran? Is it just easier? Some backroom deal? Maybe the Russians designed the Iranian drones?

    I haven't seem a video with a Maxim gun. I assume such a video is fake. The challenge with all the anecdotes is that in psywar the fake news comes from both sides 24/7.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Mikhail
    @John Johnson

    Certainly beats your shilling for the Kiev regime.

    , @Sean
    @John Johnson


    Russian economy could collapse but up until the last minute Putin would have everyone convinced that it is fine and any negativity is Western propaganda.
     
    I would say Russia is economically fragile but its industrial reserves of strength make it more robust that a financial analysis would suggest. And Russia is surely going to begin dialing down consumption of anything it is running short of; the missiles are being used at about the same rate so I assume use of them is sustainable. Russia is being hurt, no question, but the Kremlin seems to think it is worth it.
  1016. @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    He doesn't mention Biden earlier (before the report saying the DPRK is giving arms to Russia) asking South Korea to help arm the Kiev regime on account of the US having supply problems. Likewise, the NYT said Russia has a 7 to 1 advantage over the entire collective West when it comes to artillery shell production.

    So much for a married moron who thinks he's stable on the mere account of being married as claimed - as if that's synonymous with being sane and rational. A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

    He doesn’t mention Biden earlier (before the report saying the DPRK is giving arms to Russia) asking South Korea to help arm the Kiev regime on account of the US having supply problems.

    There you go projecting fanboyism again.

    I never claimed that the US has plenty of artillery supply.

    The US was not prepared to contribute towards a WW1 style artillery duel.

    Canada however had a better supply of winter kits than Russia. They have been given to Ukraine.

    QCIC made this comment:
    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall

    Maybe try quoting me next time instead of assuming everyone has your fanboy brain.

    So much for a married moron who thinks he’s stable on the mere account of being married as claimed – as if that’s synonymous with being sane and rational. A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    Are you still upset that I pointed out how Putin’s top US/EU bloggers are unmarried and most have criminal records or sexual harassment accusations? One of the most popular (The Duran) is a disbarred lawyer who committed fraud. We all know what Ritter did…twice.

    Men with children didn’t cheer as an angry midget sent cruise missiles at Kiev. Anglin quickly decreed himself to be “Putin’s #1 fanboy” but then a year later went back to ranting about Jews. Fuentes, the openly proud incel and White nationalist did a show where he thanked Putin for liberating the Ukrainians.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson


    QCIC wrote: I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall.
     
    My wording was unintentionally misleading. You reasonably interpreted "well-equipped...overall" to mean the military has everything the troops need. This is contradicted by reports that Russian troops do not have important basic supplies such as medkits. This was not my point. I don't have any detailed information on what is really happening on the battlefield.

    My intended meaning is the Russian military-industrial-complex has enough budget, manpower and industrial capability to create a large well-equipped military overall. In this context my use of the word "overall" means across all physical combat domains including air, land, space, surface Navy and submarines. I think this is accurate, though Russia has been in a rebuilding phase for decades and still has gaps in capability. "Well equipped" is intended to imply they have reasonably modern aircraft, ships, satellites, etc. They are reusing a lot of older equipment and upgrading as is common for the military.

    It is surprising that the troops in the SMO are missing important supplies. I don't know what this means. I believe Russia has recently put the Sarmat missile on alert and this represents more cost than all the medkits combined. So what does that imply?

    Here are some possibilities:

    - Local shortages because it is combat.
    - Completely fake news on the shortages.
    - Widespread shortages resulting from:
    --Lack of funds (spent the money on big-ticket items)
    --Incompetence
    --Corruption.

    My guess is there are local shortages due to various causes and this information is inflated by the fake news process. Note that this fake news could be created by the West to make Russia look weak or in trouble. It also could be Russian maskirovka to make themselves look weak and keep the West engaged. Or it could be Russian fake news to patriotically motivate people to support the SMO more strongly. The news on shortages could even be a combination of ALL of these factors.

    I think the political process enabled by the SMO allowed Russia to double her military budget. I assume this is intended to address the past issue of having money for big ticket items and not enough for smaller stuff including supplies, precision guided munitions, troop training, etc. It remains to be seen how inflation and corruption will degrade this effect.
  1017. @Barbarossa
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Extreme caution is generally a good policy in interpreting any ancient texts. It's really difficult to derive certain interpretations since we lack so much cultural and linguistic context. This is especially true when people try to weave a syncretic whole out of a hodgepodge of ancient and modern bits.

    I'm all for the notion that things may be significantly stranger than we know and that modern knowledge and interpretations may be very wrong, but I try to be circumspect. There are WAY too many similar rabbit holes on the interwebs.

    I'm not trying to convince you of anything one way or another, but I find it a useful litmus test to ask if devoting time and energy particular theory advances me as a human being. Does it make me a better, unfettered person, improve bonds with my family community, etc? If the answer is no, then I regard it as an entertainment at best and a distraction at worst.

    Since my mastery of cuneiform is sadly non-existent, I have low confidence that I could discern faulty interpretations in Sumerian history and religion from valid ones. So, if I get abducted by aliens and they fill me in personally I'll be on board, but until that point I'll leave it by the wayside as a probably unfruitful pursuit.

    Replies: @Another Polish Perspective

    Extreme caution is generally a good policy in interpreting any ancient texts.

    Still, creators of these texts are closer to our finger-chopping predecessors than we are. It is the reality of these texts which can have clues concerning this practice, not ours.

    I’m not trying to convince you of anything one way or another, but I find it a useful litmus test to ask if devoting time and energy particular theory advances me as a human being. Does it make me a better, unfettered person, improve bonds with my family community, etc?

    Alien things are about the nature of power structure and confusion/obfuscation spread by it, which is by the way, the general subject of Unz (even if other answers are preferred). Man may be the measure of all things in everyday life, but there are still gods and religions, the fastest gateway to the subject of aliens.

  1018. @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    I agree that the pro-Ukie zone often seems like another dimension.

    Replies: @Mr. Hack

    It’s in the right zone, only you stubbornly cling to the twilight zone of Russian primitivism.

  1019. @Mikhail
    @QCIC

    He doesn't mention Biden earlier (before the report saying the DPRK is giving arms to Russia) asking South Korea to help arm the Kiev regime on account of the US having supply problems. Likewise, the NYT said Russia has a 7 to 1 advantage over the entire collective West when it comes to artillery shell production.

    So much for a married moron who thinks he's stable on the mere account of being married as claimed - as if that's synonymous with being sane and rational. A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Mr. Hack

    A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    Are all of your brain cells in order Mickey? Err, Zelensky is happily married you DoDo.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Mr. Hack

    Is tough to know.

    Many people suspect Zelensky is just another Jewish gay actor and his wife is the obligatory beard.

    , @Mikhail
    @Mr. Hack

    Was interrupted by an important call. Yeah, that's what I meant. How do you know for sure they're happily married? Not that I particularly care either way. He's a charlatan and the Kiev regime is losing

  1020. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned.

    You keep making these vague statements without addressing specific points.

    Do you think it is acceptable for what is supposedly the second largest military in the world to have a shortage of basic medical kits and winter gear? You don't think that is indicative of a military that has serious supply problems?

    What is your excuse for the latest video showing a Russian nest with a Maxim machine gun (1884 design)? Is that acceptable for a modern military in any context?

    So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign ‘mercenaries’ while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources.

    You believe they are conserving military resources? Why did they draft conscripts if they supposedly have over 1 million troops?

    There is no shame in admitting you don’t know the Russian plan.

    I don't think Russia has a plan. I think they expected a quick victory and have been winging it ever since.

    They outnumber Ukraine in manpower and it is certainly possible that they will walk with a chunk of Ukraine.

    It is also possible that the Russian frontline could collapse or a civil war inside Russia could take off...again This could go a lot of ways. Putin has not been honest from the beginning (It's a training exercise) and no one knows the true state of their economy. Based on interviews I do not believe that Putin was aware of his own trade dependencies. He seemed genuinely upset over production limitations as if they were artificial. I don't think he was aware of how dependent they became on Western computer chips in the last 20 years. The Russian economy could collapse but up until the last minute Putin would have everyone convinced that it is fine and any negativity is Western propaganda.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail, @Sean

    I try to discuss the big picture because it includes some established information with important implications. If you want to discuss very specific facts on the ground in Ukraine what can I say? I don’t know what they mean. The supply questions for the Russian military in the SMO have been around since the beginning. The list of items includes boots, socks, coats, food, medkits, ammo, etc. If they don’t have these it seems to imply the military intentionally spent the money on nuclear weapons instead of important but non-flashy combat supplies. Was this a good choice for Russia overall, how do I know? Is it very bad for the combat troops who have to deal with the supply shortage, obviously it is. Is corruption involved, probably, but to what degree? Maybe they asked a general to make a choice, which would he chose: one fully armed Ka-52 or med kits and boots for everyone?

    It is interesting that Russia in 2022 apparently did not heavily use some advanced items which they have previously demonstrated, such as precision munitions and infrared countermeasures. From what I read, in 2023 these are being used more widely. So what does it mean? Were these items not available at all or were they being held aside for future purposes and new lots had to be made specifically for the SMO? I don’t know, it could be either.

    The Iranian drones are interesting. Russia has built drones for decades, why use ones from Iran? Is it just easier? Some backroom deal? Maybe the Russians designed the Iranian drones?

    I haven’t seem a video with a Maxim gun. I assume such a video is fake. The challenge with all the anecdotes is that in psywar the fake news comes from both sides 24/7.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    It is interesting that Russia in 2022 apparently did not heavily use some advanced items which they have previously demonstrated, such as precision munitions and infrared countermeasures.

    They've launched hundreds of cruise missiles. Where are you getting your information from? A couple pro-Russian bloggers cannot cover a war.

    The Iranian drones are interesting. Russia has built drones for decades, why use ones from Iran? Is it just easier? Some backroom deal? Maybe the Russians designed the Iranian drones?

    They're cheap and it is an Iranian design.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

    They use them on a near daily basis to terrorize Ukrainian cities. They aren't accurate enough for VIP hits.

    I haven’t seem a video with a Maxim gun. I assume such a video is fake.

    Well it's real and I posted the video in the newest thread.

    The challenge with all the anecdotes is that in psywar the fake news comes from both sides 24/7.

    Completely blocking out unwanted information is not a rejection of fake news. You're no different than the liberal trying to block out anything outside of CNN.

    Small media can be just as fake as anything corporate. The pro-Putin Moon of Alabama recently decided that Scott Ritter cannot be trusted. It actually wasn't over Ukraine. It was over his prediction that Israel would face hell with the Hamas tunnels. In reality they simply blew them up.

    There is no reason to trust Scott Ritter or Duran over a CNN host. You can prefer one over the other but there is no reason to assume that any of them aren't promoting an agenda or targeting an audience for profit. Both Duran and Ritter have clearly tapped into a pro-Putin audience. They're going to ignore certain information in favor of their fans.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer

  1021. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned.

    You keep making these vague statements without addressing specific points.

    Do you think it is acceptable for what is supposedly the second largest military in the world to have a shortage of basic medical kits and winter gear? You don't think that is indicative of a military that has serious supply problems?

    What is your excuse for the latest video showing a Russian nest with a Maxim machine gun (1884 design)? Is that acceptable for a modern military in any context?

    So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign ‘mercenaries’ while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources.

    You believe they are conserving military resources? Why did they draft conscripts if they supposedly have over 1 million troops?

    There is no shame in admitting you don’t know the Russian plan.

    I don't think Russia has a plan. I think they expected a quick victory and have been winging it ever since.

    They outnumber Ukraine in manpower and it is certainly possible that they will walk with a chunk of Ukraine.

    It is also possible that the Russian frontline could collapse or a civil war inside Russia could take off...again This could go a lot of ways. Putin has not been honest from the beginning (It's a training exercise) and no one knows the true state of their economy. Based on interviews I do not believe that Putin was aware of his own trade dependencies. He seemed genuinely upset over production limitations as if they were artificial. I don't think he was aware of how dependent they became on Western computer chips in the last 20 years. The Russian economy could collapse but up until the last minute Putin would have everyone convinced that it is fine and any negativity is Western propaganda.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail, @Sean

    Certainly beats your shilling for the Kiev regime.

  1022. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.
     
    Are all of your brain cells in order Mickey? Err, Zelensky is happily married you DoDo.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    Is tough to know.

    Many people suspect Zelensky is just another Jewish gay actor and his wife is the obligatory beard.

  1023. @Mr. Hack
    @Mikhail


    A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.
     
    Are all of your brain cells in order Mickey? Err, Zelensky is happily married you DoDo.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail

    Was interrupted by an important call. Yeah, that’s what I meant. How do you know for sure they’re happily married? Not that I particularly care either way. He’s a charlatan and the Kiev regime is losing

  1024. @AP
    @Mr. XYZ


    UK GDP grew 4.3% in 2022 and is projected to grow .5% in 2023.

    What made Britain grow so strongly?
     

    Don't know. 2022 was a good year for Europe (other than Russia) though. France grew 2.5%, Italy 3.7%, Poland 5.3%, Spain 5.8%, Netherlands 4.3%.

    Replies: @QCIC

    A major economic issue of the SMO is that a very strong Western sanctions package was imposed as part of the hybrid war against Russia. This was in addition to existing sanctions in place since 2015. After two years this full group of sanctions and other financial measures have not had a drastically negative impact on Russia. Apparently the country adapted much better than the West expected. As expected, these sanctions had a negative effect on many Western countries who could no longer trade openly with Russia. In the short run the balance of impacts seems to suggest the sanctions are making Russia’s economy stronger while negatively impacting the West. Therefore they are a failure.

    This could change over time, but the “protect Russia against Western aggression” mindset is probably also growing with time. The negative effects of sanctions will have less political potency as this meme grows.

  1025. @John Johnson
    @Sean

    I think Putin will cease actual hostilities eventually, but he will have zero incentive to sign a peace treaty or recognize the borders of even a rump Ukraine.

    He has plenty of incentive. The longer the war drags out the harder it will be for Roosan State TV to convince the public they are winning. Russian elections may be fixed but history suggests that it's a bad idea to be an unpopular Tsar. Putin also cares about his legacy and at this point will gladly take his "mission accomplished" banner while knowing his TV pundits won't speak of the original goals.

    Russia's actual inflation rate could be as high as 40% for foodstuff and other basic items. They again raised interest rates a few weeks ago which shows that they don't know what to do. They're just copying a Western response without understanding the actual problem. This isn't merely a case of demand outstripping supply. They have a hole in their labor market. When you remove rural men from farms and factories it destabilizes the economy. I'm not going to explain how to solve this problem but it doesn't involve aping a Western solution to a peacetime economy that can take a year to even work.

    Putin is clearly under pressure to end the war as seen by the meat attacks against Avdiivka. That isn't the action of someone that can play a long game. They just launched an unsupported infantry attack which is unreal. We are getting closer to my joke of them using horses.

    Replies: @Sean

    Dubious that Russia going onto the offensive, leveling a city to take it and losing lots of troops in the process, is an indication they want to end the war and sign a treaty recognizing Ukrainian territory, thereby making Ukraine theoretically eligible for Nato membership. My distinct impression is while Putin may in fact be taking Russia ever deeper into the slough of economic despond, he has not yet grasped that may be a way to lose the war, possibly because he is getting faulty economic analysis. Or maybe he has other priorities. I am confident that Putin, who understands a thing or two about the Russian masses, does not think keeping the war going will loosen his grip on power.

  1026. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    There is good evidence Russia is operating advanced systems of the types I mentioned.

    You keep making these vague statements without addressing specific points.

    Do you think it is acceptable for what is supposedly the second largest military in the world to have a shortage of basic medical kits and winter gear? You don't think that is indicative of a military that has serious supply problems?

    What is your excuse for the latest video showing a Russian nest with a Maxim machine gun (1884 design)? Is that acceptable for a modern military in any context?

    So they may be following a middle course of attrition warfare which gradually kills off AFU, SBU, NeoNazis and foreign ‘mercenaries’ while mostly protecting civilians and only requires limited Russian military resources.

    You believe they are conserving military resources? Why did they draft conscripts if they supposedly have over 1 million troops?

    There is no shame in admitting you don’t know the Russian plan.

    I don't think Russia has a plan. I think they expected a quick victory and have been winging it ever since.

    They outnumber Ukraine in manpower and it is certainly possible that they will walk with a chunk of Ukraine.

    It is also possible that the Russian frontline could collapse or a civil war inside Russia could take off...again This could go a lot of ways. Putin has not been honest from the beginning (It's a training exercise) and no one knows the true state of their economy. Based on interviews I do not believe that Putin was aware of his own trade dependencies. He seemed genuinely upset over production limitations as if they were artificial. I don't think he was aware of how dependent they became on Western computer chips in the last 20 years. The Russian economy could collapse but up until the last minute Putin would have everyone convinced that it is fine and any negativity is Western propaganda.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Mikhail, @Sean

    Russian economy could collapse but up until the last minute Putin would have everyone convinced that it is fine and any negativity is Western propaganda.

    I would say Russia is economically fragile but its industrial reserves of strength make it more robust that a financial analysis would suggest. And Russia is surely going to begin dialing down consumption of anything it is running short of; the missiles are being used at about the same rate so I assume use of them is sustainable. Russia is being hurt, no question, but the Kremlin seems to think it is worth it.

  1027. @John Johnson
    @Mikhail

    He doesn’t mention Biden earlier (before the report saying the DPRK is giving arms to Russia) asking South Korea to help arm the Kiev regime on account of the US having supply problems.

    There you go projecting fanboyism again.

    I never claimed that the US has plenty of artillery supply.

    The US was not prepared to contribute towards a WW1 style artillery duel.

    Canada however had a better supply of winter kits than Russia. They have been given to Ukraine.

    QCIC made this comment:
    I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall

    Maybe try quoting me next time instead of assuming everyone has your fanboy brain.

    So much for a married moron who thinks he’s stable on the mere account of being married as claimed – as if that’s synonymous with being sane and rational. A prime example debunking that is Putin presently unmarried like Zelensky.

    Are you still upset that I pointed out how Putin's top US/EU bloggers are unmarried and most have criminal records or sexual harassment accusations? One of the most popular (The Duran) is a disbarred lawyer who committed fraud. We all know what Ritter did...twice.

    Men with children didn't cheer as an angry midget sent cruise missiles at Kiev. Anglin quickly decreed himself to be "Putin's #1 fanboy" but then a year later went back to ranting about Jews. Fuentes, the openly proud incel and White nationalist did a show where he thanked Putin for liberating the Ukrainians.

    Replies: @QCIC

    QCIC wrote: I believe Russia has a large well-equipped military overall.

    My wording was unintentionally misleading. You reasonably interpreted “well-equipped…overall” to mean the military has everything the troops need. This is contradicted by reports that Russian troops do not have important basic supplies such as medkits. This was not my point. I don’t have any detailed information on what is really happening on the battlefield.

    My intended meaning is the Russian military-industrial-complex has enough budget, manpower and industrial capability to create a large well-equipped military overall. In this context my use of the word “overall” means across all physical combat domains including air, land, space, surface Navy and submarines. I think this is accurate, though Russia has been in a rebuilding phase for decades and still has gaps in capability. “Well equipped” is intended to imply they have reasonably modern aircraft, ships, satellites, etc. They are reusing a lot of older equipment and upgrading as is common for the military.

    It is surprising that the troops in the SMO are missing important supplies. I don’t know what this means. I believe Russia has recently put the Sarmat missile on alert and this represents more cost than all the medkits combined. So what does that imply?

    Here are some possibilities:

    – Local shortages because it is combat.
    – Completely fake news on the shortages.
    – Widespread shortages resulting from:
    –Lack of funds (spent the money on big-ticket items)
    –Incompetence
    –Corruption.

    My guess is there are local shortages due to various causes and this information is inflated by the fake news process. Note that this fake news could be created by the West to make Russia look weak or in trouble. It also could be Russian maskirovka to make themselves look weak and keep the West engaged. Or it could be Russian fake news to patriotically motivate people to support the SMO more strongly. The news on shortages could even be a combination of ALL of these factors.

    I think the political process enabled by the SMO allowed Russia to double her military budget. I assume this is intended to address the past issue of having money for big ticket items and not enough for smaller stuff including supplies, precision guided munitions, troop training, etc. It remains to be seen how inflation and corruption will degrade this effect.

  1028. @AP
    @Derer


    Some corrections of AP statistics especially on Russia.
     
    Why do you post nonsense when everything is available?

    GDP annual growth rates (%):

    Russia…..-2.1 (2022)…….5.5 (2023)
     
    Here is the most recent:

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-economic-growth-slow-2024-high-interest-rates-linger-2023-12-22/

    Russia's gross domestic product is expected to outperform early expectations and grow 3.1% this yea

    Putin is a bit more optimistic:

    Russia's GDP expected to grow by 3.5% in 2023 — Putin

    The 5.5% figure you cited was probably the figure for the third quarter. You were too illiterate to understand what you read.

    France……2.6……………….0.6
     
    It was 2.5% in 2022. As for 2023, latest projecton from December 19:

    https://www.banque-france.fr/system/files/2023-12/macroeconomic_projections_december-2023.pdf

    " the latest information available suggests a slight downward revision
    of growth for 2023 to 0.8%"

    Germany..1.9……………….-0.4
     
    About the same as what I wrote.

    UK…………4.1………………..0.3
     
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/bulletins/quarterlynationalaccounts/julytoseptember2023#:~:text=UK%20GDP%20is%20estimated%20to,one%20coherent%20estimate%20of%20GDP.

    UK GDP is estimated to have increased by 4.3% in 2022, unrevised from the first estimate.

    :::::::::::::::::

    The bottom line:

    Since the war began (2022-2023) Russia's economy has performed worse than that of the UK and France, and about the same as the German economy. As for the 4th largest European economy, Italy - it too has performed better in 2022-2023 than has Russia. Italy had 3.7% growth in 2022 and .7% growth in 2023.

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locations=IT

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/bank-italy-cuts-2024-gdp-forecast-06-sees-inflation-below-2-2023-12-15/

    So it is a fantasy that since the war began, Russia's economy has performed better than has the economy of Europe. It has tied Germany but has fallen further behind the UK, France, and Italy.

    Replies: @Derer

    At the beginning of this thread, it says: “TO MINIMIZE THE LOAD, PLEASE CONTINUE TO LIMIT YOUR” garbage. It says “PLEASE”! Why the F you repeating your useless garbage, for current info go to : tradingeconomiccom and study it you stubborn arse. Another site economywatch.com.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Derer

    Or you could go the source at Worldbank or the other places I linked to.

    They show that you can't read numbers.

  1029. @John Johnson
    https://youtu.be/RzBS2hdXI14?t=179

    Rural Russians remind me of Blacks.

    In theory they support criticizing the government but once they have a seemingly smart guy in charge they will back him to the bitter end. Criticizing your leader is a luxury of Whites. Blacks subconsciously feel like they don't have enough potential leaders and will look the other way on practically anything. Marion Barry was caught smoking crack and was re-elected.

    Replies: @Derer

    Rural Russians remind me of Blacks.

    Not only blacks of US Appalachia but any colour farmers living in wooden shacks that are destroyed by tornadoes every second years.

  1030. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I try to discuss the big picture because it includes some established information with important implications. If you want to discuss very specific facts on the ground in Ukraine what can I say? I don't know what they mean. The supply questions for the Russian military in the SMO have been around since the beginning. The list of items includes boots, socks, coats, food, medkits, ammo, etc. If they don't have these it seems to imply the military intentionally spent the money on nuclear weapons instead of important but non-flashy combat supplies. Was this a good choice for Russia overall, how do I know? Is it very bad for the combat troops who have to deal with the supply shortage, obviously it is. Is corruption involved, probably, but to what degree? Maybe they asked a general to make a choice, which would he chose: one fully armed Ka-52 or med kits and boots for everyone?

    It is interesting that Russia in 2022 apparently did not heavily use some advanced items which they have previously demonstrated, such as precision munitions and infrared countermeasures. From what I read, in 2023 these are being used more widely. So what does it mean? Were these items not available at all or were they being held aside for future purposes and new lots had to be made specifically for the SMO? I don't know, it could be either.

    The Iranian drones are interesting. Russia has built drones for decades, why use ones from Iran? Is it just easier? Some backroom deal? Maybe the Russians designed the Iranian drones?

    I haven't seem a video with a Maxim gun. I assume such a video is fake. The challenge with all the anecdotes is that in psywar the fake news comes from both sides 24/7.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    It is interesting that Russia in 2022 apparently did not heavily use some advanced items which they have previously demonstrated, such as precision munitions and infrared countermeasures.

    They’ve launched hundreds of cruise missiles. Where are you getting your information from? A couple pro-Russian bloggers cannot cover a war.

    The Iranian drones are interesting. Russia has built drones for decades, why use ones from Iran? Is it just easier? Some backroom deal? Maybe the Russians designed the Iranian drones?

    They’re cheap and it is an Iranian design.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

    They use them on a near daily basis to terrorize Ukrainian cities. They aren’t accurate enough for VIP hits.

    I haven’t seem a video with a Maxim gun. I assume such a video is fake.

    Well it’s real and I posted the video in the newest thread.

    The challenge with all the anecdotes is that in psywar the fake news comes from both sides 24/7.

    Completely blocking out unwanted information is not a rejection of fake news. You’re no different than the liberal trying to block out anything outside of CNN.

    Small media can be just as fake as anything corporate. The pro-Putin Moon of Alabama recently decided that Scott Ritter cannot be trusted. It actually wasn’t over Ukraine. It was over his prediction that Israel would face hell with the Hamas tunnels. In reality they simply blew them up.

    There is no reason to trust Scott Ritter or Duran over a CNN host. You can prefer one over the other but there is no reason to assume that any of them aren’t promoting an agenda or targeting an audience for profit. Both Duran and Ritter have clearly tapped into a pro-Putin audience. They’re going to ignore certain information in favor of their fans.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't trust any of these sources including you. There is plenty of evidence of faked or modified video and fact checking is difficult. Sure there is a video of a Maxim gun. It tells me nothing. That doesn't mean one has to be a full skeptic but I think the "broad strokes" information is slightly more reliable. Slightly. The "President" of Ukraine is a Jewish actor and some of the other players are Ukrainian NeoNazis, Tottenkopf and all. No amount of your nasty war porn makes these facts go away.

    I realize the Russians are using many long range missiles. I take this as a sign of their approach to limit infrastructure damage. The advanced items I was specifically referring to are precision guided munitions of several types as well as the Vitebsk infrared countermeasure system for aircraft. My impression is these items were only used on a limited basis in 2022 and this is possibly related to many of the Russian aircraft losses. The Arena tank protection system is in the same category, but I think it was known at the beginning the Russians had not rolled this out for full deployment.

    I understand the Russian military is weak in various ways, just not to the degree you seem to believe. I think they are working around soft spots and problems. Doing things like using the old equipment and ammo seems natural. They kept it for a reason. As they use it up this probably triggers obligations to replace it, as with the USA sending old stocks to Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Scott Ritter personally learned and understand the consequences of WMD heinous lie that sent American young boys to die for nothing. Iraq had pro-Iran Shia majority that Saddam dealt with much better than the Washington morons. Ritter knows what kind of crimes are committed in Washington…you lost him to other site.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  1031. @Mr. Hack
    @Gerard1234


    There was NO ukraine when Hodiak was born you dimwit, for him to be “Ukrainian”.Emigrating to the US he would definitely have thought himself as Russian, and that ethnicity on his immigration papers.
     
    I'm beginning to believe AP's assessments of your opinions here. Who's really the "cretin" here?:

    https://youtu.be/Njch2eqXXz4

    John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US and yet was a very patriotic supporter of Ukraine. His stirring speech starts at 10:07 (in Ukrainian), however, the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.

    Replies: @AP, @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.

    Not even 10 minutes of playing time – and even then can’t fill it with all “Ukrainian” music ( no such thing as a Ukrainian composer). A lady called Olga Dmitrieva playing piano. My Father, when I was a kid, did like me to play that particular nocturne by Chopin – it is a pleasant one.

    As for Hodiak. he is just talking generic shit about helping these children/orphans and thanking everyone. Doesn’t mention a word that is anti-Soviet or anything about Russia. He doesn’t say where exactly these children, particularly the orphans, are coming from before they arrive on American soil ( which is important to know if we are talking about OUN/UPA scum). Doesn’t say a single thing about ukrop culture, its memory for him when he was a child etc.Is he even clear on v or na ukraini??!!!! It’s just about helping these kids, and very difficult to guess what are the political and nationalistic themes from this concert/fundraiser. Is there anything definitive to suggest he thinks Ukrainians and Russians are separate people?

    It does seem clear that no orphans were actually taken to America – and all the time this was just some front for smuggling Banderetard scum and their families into the US.

    Now, I had never heard of this guy Hodiak before. It is interesting to see that one of his first acting parts was playing a Russian in an American film called “Song for Russia”. Made during the war , so a propaganda film in favour of Russia and USSR. Presumably no Russian skills needed for his part – which make it more interesting he decided to act in it. So never played a “Ukrainian”, but played a Russian ( zero surprise as there is zero hint of any “Ukraine” or ukrainian diaspora “community” in Hollywood,ever,LOL)

    One other thing is that this was in 1947, and this so-called “Mcarthyism” thing in US. Not something I know much about, but some very successful Hollywood actors, directors and writers had their careers destroyed for alleged pro-communist views. By1947, White Russia/Tsarist diaspora lobby in US would be near extinct as a force – particularly as of course helping the efforts to save Russia by defeating Nazi Germany, and Russia totally associated with USSR by now. So what exactly should a person in Hodiak’s situation actually do? He has to preserve his career, has to disassociate himself from the pro-Russia/Soviet film, anything russophile would be viewed as pro-Soviet then………..so what exactly can he do except associate himself with this subtle Banderetard nonsense?

    The question remains, what ethnicity would he have put when emigrating into US?
    Question remains if he was lying in the early 1940’s when playing a Russian to make pro-Soviet war effort film……or lying in 1947 when participating in this khokhol stuff?

    I’m beginning to believe AP’s assessments of your opinions here. Who’s really the “cretin” here?:

    In other words……..you know just as much as me that this AP freak is not Ukrainian in any possible way. LOL – if you are fake only “beginning to believe” this spamtroll freaks assessments then considering how often he is here – that is not much of an endorsement.

    I will say thanks to you for the link though – interesting.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    The question remains, what ethnicity would he have put when emigrating into US?
     
    You've forgotten how to speak Russian properly (remember when you didn't even know the Russian word for "Watch"?) but haven't even leaned English either properly.

    Hodiak was born in Pittsburgh. His parents were from Galicia. The fact that his parents came over was mentioned.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

  1032. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    It is interesting that Russia in 2022 apparently did not heavily use some advanced items which they have previously demonstrated, such as precision munitions and infrared countermeasures.

    They've launched hundreds of cruise missiles. Where are you getting your information from? A couple pro-Russian bloggers cannot cover a war.

    The Iranian drones are interesting. Russia has built drones for decades, why use ones from Iran? Is it just easier? Some backroom deal? Maybe the Russians designed the Iranian drones?

    They're cheap and it is an Iranian design.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

    They use them on a near daily basis to terrorize Ukrainian cities. They aren't accurate enough for VIP hits.

    I haven’t seem a video with a Maxim gun. I assume such a video is fake.

    Well it's real and I posted the video in the newest thread.

    The challenge with all the anecdotes is that in psywar the fake news comes from both sides 24/7.

    Completely blocking out unwanted information is not a rejection of fake news. You're no different than the liberal trying to block out anything outside of CNN.

    Small media can be just as fake as anything corporate. The pro-Putin Moon of Alabama recently decided that Scott Ritter cannot be trusted. It actually wasn't over Ukraine. It was over his prediction that Israel would face hell with the Hamas tunnels. In reality they simply blew them up.

    There is no reason to trust Scott Ritter or Duran over a CNN host. You can prefer one over the other but there is no reason to assume that any of them aren't promoting an agenda or targeting an audience for profit. Both Duran and Ritter have clearly tapped into a pro-Putin audience. They're going to ignore certain information in favor of their fans.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer

    I don’t trust any of these sources including you. There is plenty of evidence of faked or modified video and fact checking is difficult. Sure there is a video of a Maxim gun. It tells me nothing. That doesn’t mean one has to be a full skeptic but I think the “broad strokes” information is slightly more reliable. Slightly. The “President” of Ukraine is a Jewish actor and some of the other players are Ukrainian NeoNazis, Tottenkopf and all. No amount of your nasty war porn makes these facts go away.

    I realize the Russians are using many long range missiles. I take this as a sign of their approach to limit infrastructure damage. The advanced items I was specifically referring to are precision guided munitions of several types as well as the Vitebsk infrared countermeasure system for aircraft. My impression is these items were only used on a limited basis in 2022 and this is possibly related to many of the Russian aircraft losses. The Arena tank protection system is in the same category, but I think it was known at the beginning the Russians had not rolled this out for full deployment.

    I understand the Russian military is weak in various ways, just not to the degree you seem to believe. I think they are working around soft spots and problems. Doing things like using the old equipment and ammo seems natural. They kept it for a reason. As they use it up this probably triggers obligations to replace it, as with the USA sending old stocks to Ukraine.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Sure there is a video of a Maxim gun. It tells me nothing. That doesn’t mean one has to be a full skeptic but I think the “broad strokes” information is slightly more reliable.

    So you believe the logical assumption is that the Russians were not using a Maxim machine gun even though there are videos of recruits talking about how they don't have AK-47s for training?

    You do realize that the AK-47 is dated by the AK-74? Which means they don't have enough guns that use a design from 1974. Using AK-47s shows they are at the bottom of the barrel on small arms. But you think it is far fetched that they would use a Maxim machine gun even though the Ukrainians have used them?

    The “President” of Ukraine is a Jewish actor and some of the other players are Ukrainian NeoNazis, Tottenkopf and all.

    Who would you say is the biggest NeoNazi in the Jewish actor's cabinet?

    I realize the Russians are using many long range missiles. I take this as a sign of their approach to limit infrastructure damage.

    But you don't deny that they target infrastructure and cities with crude Iranian drones, right?

    Replies: @QCIC

  1033. @Mr. Hack
    @QCIC


    I don’t speak Ukrainian but I am on the look out for deeper patterns in situations like this.
     
    Did it ever occur to you to keep your empty headed thoughts to yourself before criticizing somebody's actions based on what they say if you don't understand the language? But hey, if you're on a treasure hunt and trying to uncover "deeper patterns" who am I to try and stop you? LOL buddy.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Gerard1234

    Did it ever occur to you to keep your empty headed thoughts to yourself before criticizing somebody’s actions based on what they say if you don’t understand the language?

    Hack, how rude of you to speak to an intellectual like QCIC like that you dimwit. Show some respect. Show a bit of class, like me.

    I should add that QCIC’s language skills in mova OVERQUALIFY him to be Ukronazi President. 4 of the last 5 Ukrainian Presidents have had zero to very poor ability in speaking “Ukrainian” language and have had to learn it on the job. It makes all their Nazi laws passed even more despicable

  1034. @Derer
    @AP

    At the beginning of this thread, it says: "TO MINIMIZE THE LOAD, PLEASE CONTINUE TO LIMIT YOUR" garbage. It says "PLEASE"! Why the F you repeating your useless garbage, for current info go to : tradingeconomiccom and study it you stubborn arse. Another site economywatch.com.

    Replies: @AP

    Or you could go the source at Worldbank or the other places I linked to.

    They show that you can’t read numbers.

  1035. @Gerard1234
    @Mr. Hack


    the whole concert is a good one and worth listening to.
     
    Not even 10 minutes of playing time - and even then can't fill it with all "Ukrainian" music ( no such thing as a Ukrainian composer). A lady called Olga Dmitrieva playing piano. My Father, when I was a kid, did like me to play that particular nocturne by Chopin - it is a pleasant one.

    As for Hodiak. he is just talking generic shit about helping these children/orphans and thanking everyone. Doesn't mention a word that is anti-Soviet or anything about Russia. He doesn't say where exactly these children, particularly the orphans, are coming from before they arrive on American soil ( which is important to know if we are talking about OUN/UPA scum). Doesn't say a single thing about ukrop culture, its memory for him when he was a child etc.Is he even clear on v or na ukraini??!!!! It's just about helping these kids, and very difficult to guess what are the political and nationalistic themes from this concert/fundraiser. Is there anything definitive to suggest he thinks Ukrainians and Russians are separate people?

    It does seem clear that no orphans were actually taken to America - and all the time this was just some front for smuggling Banderetard scum and their families into the US.

    Now, I had never heard of this guy Hodiak before. It is interesting to see that one of his first acting parts was playing a Russian in an American film called "Song for Russia". Made during the war , so a propaganda film in favour of Russia and USSR. Presumably no Russian skills needed for his part - which make it more interesting he decided to act in it. So never played a "Ukrainian", but played a Russian ( zero surprise as there is zero hint of any "Ukraine" or ukrainian diaspora "community" in Hollywood,ever,LOL)

    One other thing is that this was in 1947, and this so-called "Mcarthyism" thing in US. Not something I know much about, but some very successful Hollywood actors, directors and writers had their careers destroyed for alleged pro-communist views. By1947, White Russia/Tsarist diaspora lobby in US would be near extinct as a force - particularly as of course helping the efforts to save Russia by defeating Nazi Germany, and Russia totally associated with USSR by now. So what exactly should a person in Hodiak's situation actually do? He has to preserve his career, has to disassociate himself from the pro-Russia/Soviet film, anything russophile would be viewed as pro-Soviet then...........so what exactly can he do except associate himself with this subtle Banderetard nonsense?

    The question remains, what ethnicity would he have put when emigrating into US?
    Question remains if he was lying in the early 1940's when playing a Russian to make pro-Soviet war effort film......or lying in 1947 when participating in this khokhol stuff?

    I’m beginning to believe AP’s assessments of your opinions here. Who’s really the “cretin” here?:
     
    In other words........you know just as much as me that this AP freak is not Ukrainian in any possible way. LOL - if you are fake only "beginning to believe" this spamtroll freaks assessments then considering how often he is here - that is not much of an endorsement.

    I will say thanks to you for the link though - interesting.

    Replies: @AP

    The question remains, what ethnicity would he have put when emigrating into US?

    You’ve forgotten how to speak Russian properly (remember when you didn’t even know the Russian word for “Watch”?) but haven’t even leaned English either properly.

    Hodiak was born in Pittsburgh. His parents were from Galicia. The fact that his parents came over was mentioned.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    You’ve forgotten how to speak Russian properly (remember when you didn’t even know the Russian word for “Watch”?)
     
    LMAO. The bimbo fucktard "AP" embarrasses itself once more!As I said before - its like being physically attacked by Stephan Hawking and intellectually attacked by Vitaly Klitschko. Any sane person would not write and think such fantasist nonsense when reproducing the text you are mentioning (and it shows). Any bimbo who additionally can't speak a word of Russian - even they could not reach such idiotic conclusions. With yourself it is the combination of bimbo, sociopath wakjob, unable to speak Russian that makes you propagate this amusing lie and show how clueless you are when you copy and paste this.

    but haven’t even leaned English either properly.Hodiak was born in Pittsburgh. His parents were from Galicia

     

    For sure, I didn't bother to read this Hodiak guys biography - have other things to do other than maliciously looking at Wikipedia nonsense all day like yourself. I just looked at the year of his birth and made conclusions. So yes, he was born in the US, not Ukraine. So to modify my question to Mr Hack:

    So then - the question remains, what ethnicity would his parents have put when emigrating into US?

     


    The fact that his parents came over was mentioned.
     
    I said before you fantasist imbecile - stop faking by giving completely false impressions. It is clearly obvious you cannot speak or read Russian or move, and so do not understand a word in the video that is not spoken in English.But do show me your medical "knowledge", LOL!!

    His parents came over before WW1. Entirely possible a non-khokhol family in mentality, fully Russian-world. A "yak" also, which I mentioned in my post to QCIC.

    Nicholas 2nd was given a wonderful reception in Lvov in 1915 you dipshit. They were all poor the ukrops living in the disaster of Galicia under the Hapsburgs, but most galician peasants (particularly those that emigrated to US pre-1918)- orthodox or even of the fake Uniate church were very Russophile. Banderite diaspora (1945 - ) look to have been a closed society of freaks, pre-WW1 diaspora in US do not appear to have disassociated themselves from Russians at all, had large circulation newspapers and public participation societies/groups etc. They certainly do not appear to have disassociated themselves from Russians in front of the Americans you prick.

    Huge numbers of Galicians did go to Russia, during the retreat of the Army from Galicia in WW1, but this is supposed to be a conversation between people with connections to the areas ( me and Mr Hack) - not fantasist nutjob trash as yourself.

    Replies: @AP

  1036. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    It is interesting that Russia in 2022 apparently did not heavily use some advanced items which they have previously demonstrated, such as precision munitions and infrared countermeasures.

    They've launched hundreds of cruise missiles. Where are you getting your information from? A couple pro-Russian bloggers cannot cover a war.

    The Iranian drones are interesting. Russia has built drones for decades, why use ones from Iran? Is it just easier? Some backroom deal? Maybe the Russians designed the Iranian drones?

    They're cheap and it is an Iranian design.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

    They use them on a near daily basis to terrorize Ukrainian cities. They aren't accurate enough for VIP hits.

    I haven’t seem a video with a Maxim gun. I assume such a video is fake.

    Well it's real and I posted the video in the newest thread.

    The challenge with all the anecdotes is that in psywar the fake news comes from both sides 24/7.

    Completely blocking out unwanted information is not a rejection of fake news. You're no different than the liberal trying to block out anything outside of CNN.

    Small media can be just as fake as anything corporate. The pro-Putin Moon of Alabama recently decided that Scott Ritter cannot be trusted. It actually wasn't over Ukraine. It was over his prediction that Israel would face hell with the Hamas tunnels. In reality they simply blew them up.

    There is no reason to trust Scott Ritter or Duran over a CNN host. You can prefer one over the other but there is no reason to assume that any of them aren't promoting an agenda or targeting an audience for profit. Both Duran and Ritter have clearly tapped into a pro-Putin audience. They're going to ignore certain information in favor of their fans.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Derer

    Scott Ritter personally learned and understand the consequences of WMD heinous lie that sent American young boys to die for nothing. Iraq had pro-Iran Shia majority that Saddam dealt with much better than the Washington morons. Ritter knows what kind of crimes are committed in Washington…you lost him to other site.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Derer

    Ritter knows what kind of crimes are committed in Washington…you lost him to other site.

    Scott Ritter has lost his f-cking mind. He thinks Hamas is winning.

    No seriously watch the first 10 minute of this video. He is inventing all kinds of battles in his imagination.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEwcfAbNbyE

    Scott Ritter says that Israel doesn't have a solution to the tunnels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxeG08plxBQ

  1037. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    The question remains, what ethnicity would he have put when emigrating into US?
     
    You've forgotten how to speak Russian properly (remember when you didn't even know the Russian word for "Watch"?) but haven't even leaned English either properly.

    Hodiak was born in Pittsburgh. His parents were from Galicia. The fact that his parents came over was mentioned.

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    You’ve forgotten how to speak Russian properly (remember when you didn’t even know the Russian word for “Watch”?)

    LMAO. The bimbo fucktard “AP” embarrasses itself once more!As I said before – its like being physically attacked by Stephan Hawking and intellectually attacked by Vitaly Klitschko. Any sane person would not write and think such fantasist nonsense when reproducing the text you are mentioning (and it shows). Any bimbo who additionally can’t speak a word of Russian – even they could not reach such idiotic conclusions. With yourself it is the combination of bimbo, sociopath wakjob, unable to speak Russian that makes you propagate this amusing lie and show how clueless you are when you copy and paste this.

    but haven’t even leaned English either properly.Hodiak was born in Pittsburgh. His parents were from Galicia

    For sure, I didn’t bother to read this Hodiak guys biography – have other things to do other than maliciously looking at Wikipedia nonsense all day like yourself. I just looked at the year of his birth and made conclusions. So yes, he was born in the US, not Ukraine. So to modify my question to Mr Hack:

    So then – the question remains, what ethnicity would his parents have put when emigrating into US?

    The fact that his parents came over was mentioned.

    I said before you fantasist imbecile – stop faking by giving completely false impressions. It is clearly obvious you cannot speak or read Russian or move, and so do not understand a word in the video that is not spoken in English.But do show me your medical “knowledge”, LOL!!

    His parents came over before WW1. Entirely possible a non-khokhol family in mentality, fully Russian-world. A “yak” also, which I mentioned in my post to QCIC.

    Nicholas 2nd was given a wonderful reception in Lvov in 1915 you dipshit. They were all poor the ukrops living in the disaster of Galicia under the Hapsburgs, but most galician peasants (particularly those that emigrated to US pre-1918)- orthodox or even of the fake Uniate church were very Russophile. Banderite diaspora (1945 – ) look to have been a closed society of freaks, pre-WW1 diaspora in US do not appear to have disassociated themselves from Russians at all, had large circulation newspapers and public participation societies/groups etc. They certainly do not appear to have disassociated themselves from Russians in front of the Americans you prick.

    Huge numbers of Galicians did go to Russia, during the retreat of the Army from Galicia in WW1, but this is supposed to be a conversation between people with connections to the areas ( me and Mr Hack) – not fantasist nutjob trash as yourself.

    • Replies: @AP
    @Gerard1234


    For sure, I didn’t bother to read this Hodiak guys biography
     
    You did read Mr. Hack's post though. You replied to it. In it, he stated "John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US "

    You don't know English well. And you've forgotten Russian, while sweeping floors in the rustbelt hole in northern England that you ended up in after escaping from 90s Kazan, a real hole back then.

    Any bimbo who additionally can’t speak a word of Russian

     

    I speak it well enough to to get around my old home in central Moscow and be confused by the locals for a Russian-speaking Baltic or Czech tourist. I was ordering at a cafe off Tverskoy boulevard in Russian with our former host.

    You would never be worthy of living in central Moscow, of course.

    You are a loser in two worlds - the Russian one you fled, and the English one you fled to.

    Congratulations.

    Last time I was in Moscow, in late 2019, when taking a walk to Red Square I came upon this scene. I suspect you don't know what this is:

    https://i.imgur.com/j3wsdoR.jpg

    (I'll describe it after "more")

    And you will never guess this show I went to, or the theater:

    https://i.imgur.com/gIlz3Mc.jpg

    Nicholas 2nd was given a wonderful reception in Lvov in 1915
     
    He left a positive impression on my great-grandfather, who saw him.

    most galician peasants (particularly those that emigrated to US pre-1918)- orthodox or even of the fake Uniate church were very Russophile
     
    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry. And you are 40 years out of date. Russophilia in Galicia peaked in the 1840s-1860s. But by World War I both groups had become mostly Ukrainian nationalists. Only 10%-15% of Galicians were still pro-Russian. They were an embattled minority. The first world war mostly finished them off, though the interwar Polish government sponsored their remnants.

    Huge numbers of Galicians did go to Russia, during the retreat of the Army from Galicia in WW1,
     
    About 25,000 went to Rostov on Don. Including a few of my relatives.



    1. They were filming the New Year's show for Russian TV. They filmed it December 14, well before New Year's.

    2. Bulgakov's Бег. At the Moscow Art Theater.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. XYZ

  1038. @Gerard1234
    @AP


    You’ve forgotten how to speak Russian properly (remember when you didn’t even know the Russian word for “Watch”?)
     
    LMAO. The bimbo fucktard "AP" embarrasses itself once more!As I said before - its like being physically attacked by Stephan Hawking and intellectually attacked by Vitaly Klitschko. Any sane person would not write and think such fantasist nonsense when reproducing the text you are mentioning (and it shows). Any bimbo who additionally can't speak a word of Russian - even they could not reach such idiotic conclusions. With yourself it is the combination of bimbo, sociopath wakjob, unable to speak Russian that makes you propagate this amusing lie and show how clueless you are when you copy and paste this.

    but haven’t even leaned English either properly.Hodiak was born in Pittsburgh. His parents were from Galicia

     

    For sure, I didn't bother to read this Hodiak guys biography - have other things to do other than maliciously looking at Wikipedia nonsense all day like yourself. I just looked at the year of his birth and made conclusions. So yes, he was born in the US, not Ukraine. So to modify my question to Mr Hack:

    So then - the question remains, what ethnicity would his parents have put when emigrating into US?

     


    The fact that his parents came over was mentioned.
     
    I said before you fantasist imbecile - stop faking by giving completely false impressions. It is clearly obvious you cannot speak or read Russian or move, and so do not understand a word in the video that is not spoken in English.But do show me your medical "knowledge", LOL!!

    His parents came over before WW1. Entirely possible a non-khokhol family in mentality, fully Russian-world. A "yak" also, which I mentioned in my post to QCIC.

    Nicholas 2nd was given a wonderful reception in Lvov in 1915 you dipshit. They were all poor the ukrops living in the disaster of Galicia under the Hapsburgs, but most galician peasants (particularly those that emigrated to US pre-1918)- orthodox or even of the fake Uniate church were very Russophile. Banderite diaspora (1945 - ) look to have been a closed society of freaks, pre-WW1 diaspora in US do not appear to have disassociated themselves from Russians at all, had large circulation newspapers and public participation societies/groups etc. They certainly do not appear to have disassociated themselves from Russians in front of the Americans you prick.

    Huge numbers of Galicians did go to Russia, during the retreat of the Army from Galicia in WW1, but this is supposed to be a conversation between people with connections to the areas ( me and Mr Hack) - not fantasist nutjob trash as yourself.

    Replies: @AP

    For sure, I didn’t bother to read this Hodiak guys biography

    You did read Mr. Hack’s post though. You replied to it. In it, he stated “John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US ”

    You don’t know English well. And you’ve forgotten Russian, while sweeping floors in the rustbelt hole in northern England that you ended up in after escaping from 90s Kazan, a real hole back then.

    Any bimbo who additionally can’t speak a word of Russian

    I speak it well enough to to get around my old home in central Moscow and be confused by the locals for a Russian-speaking Baltic or Czech tourist. I was ordering at a cafe off Tverskoy boulevard in Russian with our former host.

    You would never be worthy of living in central Moscow, of course.

    You are a loser in two worlds – the Russian one you fled, and the English one you fled to.

    Congratulations.

    Last time I was in Moscow, in late 2019, when taking a walk to Red Square I came upon this scene. I suspect you don’t know what this is:

    (I’ll describe it after “more”)

    And you will never guess this show I went to, or the theater:

    Nicholas 2nd was given a wonderful reception in Lvov in 1915

    He left a positive impression on my great-grandfather, who saw him.

    most galician peasants (particularly those that emigrated to US pre-1918)- orthodox or even of the fake Uniate church were very Russophile

    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry. And you are 40 years out of date. Russophilia in Galicia peaked in the 1840s-1860s. But by World War I both groups had become mostly Ukrainian nationalists. Only 10%-15% of Galicians were still pro-Russian. They were an embattled minority. The first world war mostly finished them off, though the interwar Polish government sponsored their remnants.

    Huge numbers of Galicians did go to Russia, during the retreat of the Army from Galicia in WW1,

    About 25,000 went to Rostov on Don. Including a few of my relatives.

    [MORE]

    1. They were filming the New Year’s show for Russian TV. They filmed it December 14, well before New Year’s.

    2. Bulgakov’s Бег. At the Moscow Art Theater.

    • Replies: @Gerard1234
    @AP


    Last time I was in Moscow, in late 2019, when taking a walk to Red Square I came upon this scene. I suspect you don’t know what this is:

     

    LMAO. About as believable as the earth being flat or the sun orbiting the earth. Nothing is confirmed as fake as much as when a worthless tramp like you gives a link to it you idiot. Enormous number of examples. So stop wasting my time by propagating your disturbed fantasies you idiot.

    He left a positive impression on my great-grandfather, who saw him.
     

    About 25,000 went to Rostov on Don. Including a few of my relatives.

     

    LOL. Why does a worthless POS carry on propagating such blatant, tedious lies. No sane person would believe that garbage.

    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry.
     
    No. In particularly if talking about those who emigrated to the US out of the Galician disaster zone in 19th - pre-ww1 20th century. Anti-Russian "Ukrainian" movement created by Austrian authorities in response to further Russian military successes in southern Europe ( 1870's). Polish scum helping in this also. This was focused on pseudo-"Ukrainian" "elites" ( most of them outright or mixed Polish anyway) and the clergy.

    20th century arrives and from this until WW1 the focus is wider - not just fake intelligentsia and clergy , but youth organisations like Plast (ukrop scouts, formed under Austrian instruction - which of course a POS like you had never heard about before I type it) , paramilitary groups formed with the authorities approval and some other things.....but to say a mass "Ukrainian" consciousness had developed in the peasants living outside the cities is of course total BS. The ukrop national idea/myth did base itself on peasantry (hence why Grushevsky, Petliura and other scum prostituted themselves to the Bolsheviks at various stages because the national idea on peasantry of ukronazism was so closely linked to the Communists views on rise of the peasantry) ..... but that is not the same as saying Galician peasantry supported it.

    while sweeping floors in the rustbelt hole in northern England that you ended up in after escaping from 90s Kazan, a real hole back then. You are a loser in two worlds – the Russian one you fled, and the English one you fled to.
     
    LMAO. Once again, because you are a sociopath with a life lower than a slug.....you are projecting and wishing for what you WANT to be true. Every word in that quote is a lie.Now let's have another comedy medical lesson!
    I suspect all this attention-whoring is to provoke me into telling more about myself to occupy your non-life.
    Anyway at least 1 of the following things applies to me, maybe 2, maybe 3 of them, possibly all 4:

    Relatives in Moscow,
    Studied in Moscow,
    Lived in Moscow
    Worked in Moscow.

    You can spend the New Year debating with yourself these 4 things you sick retard.
    , @Mr. XYZ
    @AP


    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry. And you are 40 years out of date. Russophilia in Galicia peaked in the 1840s-1860s. But by World War I both groups had become mostly Ukrainian nationalists. Only 10%-15% of Galicians were still pro-Russian. They were an embattled minority. The first world war mostly finished them off, though the interwar Polish government sponsored their remnants.

     

    You have previously said that around 40% of the Ukrainian nobility in Galicia was still Russophile back in the early 1910s. Is this accurate? The peasants were of course at 10-15%, as you said.

    Also, seems like Russia missed a golden opportunity to conquer Galicia back in 1866 when Prussia fought against Austria, or even back in 1848-1849, when it could have probably demanded this from the Hapsburgs in exchange for helping them crush the Hungarian uprising--or, alternatively, decide to support the Hungarians and get Galicia for themselves. Given just how much Russia was subsequently obsessed with the Balkans, it was stupid of Russia not to dismember Austria back in 1848-1849 by supporting the Hungarians. The Hungarians would have probably been a more loyal ally for Russia than Austria was.
  1039. @German_reader
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-bomb-investigation.html

    During the first six weeks of the war in Gaza, Israel routinely used one of its biggest and most destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to an analysis of visual evidence by The New York Times.

    The video investigation focuses on the use of 2,000-pound bombs in an area of southern Gaza where Israel had ordered civilians to move for safety. While bombs of that size are used by several Western militaries, munitions experts say they are almost never dropped by U.S. forces in densely populated areas anymore.

    The Times programmed an artificial intelligence tool to scan satellite imagery of south Gaza for bomb craters. Times reporters manually reviewed the search results, looking for craters measuring roughly 40 feet across or larger. Munitions experts say typically only 2,000-pound bombs form craters of that size in Gaza’s light, sandy soil.

    Ultimately, the investigation identified 208 craters in satellite imagery and drone footage. Because of limited satellite imagery and variations in a bomb’s effects, there are likely to have been many cases that were not captured. But the findings reveal that 2,000-pound bombs posed a pervasive threat to civilians seeking safety across south Gaza.

    In response to questions about the bomb’s use in south Gaza, an Israeli military spokesman said in a statement to The Times that Israel’s priority was destroying Hamas and “questions of this kind will be looked into at a later stage.” The spokesman also said that the I.D.F. “takes feasible precautions to mitigate civilian harm.”

    But U.S. officials have said that Israel should do more to reduce civilian casualties while fighting Hamas. The Pentagon increased shipments to Israel of smaller bombs that it considers better suited to urban environments like Gaza. Still, since October, the United States has also sent more than 5,000 MK-84 munitions — a type of 2,000-pound bomb.
     

    Looks like my earlier comment has been confirmed by the NYT, lol.
    So the "evacuation", "safe zones" etc. were just for show, to dupe Western audiences. Looks like Netanyahu and his government really were serious about that "expulsion to Sinai" proposal.

    Replies: @A123, @Yevardian

    Looks like Netanyahu and his government really were serious about that “expulsion to Sinai” proposal.

    If it really were going to end up there that I’d ultimately find that acceptable myself. I think the entire world is well and true sick of the endless Israel-Palestine Conflict and if the Palestinian Arabs began being mass deported, public opinion (outside the Muslim world) would secretly breathe a sigh relief that this tedious and bloody quagmire was finally over.

    But the problem is, the US and Europe is largely paying the bill for for Israel’s war (in both money and reputation), whilst they’ll probably recieve the brunt of refugees later as well.
    Most ironically the exact same Jewish and/or Zionist organisations most fervent in cheerleading this war of expulsion-or-annihilation now will also be the ones most shrill in hectoring the West for not being too mean and ‘uninclusive’ of the often raucous Palestinian refugees that’ll inevitably end up here.

  1040. @Gerard1234
    @Dmitry

    All completely useless and irrelevant stuff.

    The so-called "anti-immigration" right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries. So-called "anti-ukrainian" rhetoric is irrelevant - these 2 sets of animals (Poles and Banderetards) have proven themselves completely incompatible living with each other for centuries - but even then we still have the situation that we have now.

    The european populations have proven themselves useless/total bydlo in these gayropa states at having objections 5-10%+ of their government health, education, social expenditure directed immediately to a group of immigrants - as they have in a situation where their countries have increased overnight by 1%,2%,3% even 5% population with most of these people being economically incapable (children and pensioners) from 404.

    Every country has pissed off farmers , ultimately there is always subsidies they can give, things they can pretend to do, international conditions they can blame. Though they make the loudest noise, most of them are wealthy anyway and are an easily expendable part of the electorate.

    Most gayropa states have had changes of governments in the last few years ( exception France) and a combination of conditions involving both the coronavirus and Russia indirectly I would guess has critical role in this - none of it changes the foreign policy

    Replies: @A123, @Yevardian

    The so-called “anti-immigration” right-wing in the EU countries proved themselves useless at having objections to masses of ukrops flooding into their countries.

    Yes, it’s a great shame. For every Ukrainian, Europe missed the chance getting a future Doctor Mugabe.

  1041. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I don't trust any of these sources including you. There is plenty of evidence of faked or modified video and fact checking is difficult. Sure there is a video of a Maxim gun. It tells me nothing. That doesn't mean one has to be a full skeptic but I think the "broad strokes" information is slightly more reliable. Slightly. The "President" of Ukraine is a Jewish actor and some of the other players are Ukrainian NeoNazis, Tottenkopf and all. No amount of your nasty war porn makes these facts go away.

    I realize the Russians are using many long range missiles. I take this as a sign of their approach to limit infrastructure damage. The advanced items I was specifically referring to are precision guided munitions of several types as well as the Vitebsk infrared countermeasure system for aircraft. My impression is these items were only used on a limited basis in 2022 and this is possibly related to many of the Russian aircraft losses. The Arena tank protection system is in the same category, but I think it was known at the beginning the Russians had not rolled this out for full deployment.

    I understand the Russian military is weak in various ways, just not to the degree you seem to believe. I think they are working around soft spots and problems. Doing things like using the old equipment and ammo seems natural. They kept it for a reason. As they use it up this probably triggers obligations to replace it, as with the USA sending old stocks to Ukraine.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Sure there is a video of a Maxim gun. It tells me nothing. That doesn’t mean one has to be a full skeptic but I think the “broad strokes” information is slightly more reliable.

    So you believe the logical assumption is that the Russians were not using a Maxim machine gun even though there are videos of recruits talking about how they don’t have AK-47s for training?

    You do realize that the AK-47 is dated by the AK-74? Which means they don’t have enough guns that use a design from 1974. Using AK-47s shows they are at the bottom of the barrel on small arms. But you think it is far fetched that they would use a Maxim machine gun even though the Ukrainians have used them?

    The “President” of Ukraine is a Jewish actor and some of the other players are Ukrainian NeoNazis, Tottenkopf and all.

    Who would you say is the biggest NeoNazi in the Jewish actor’s cabinet?

    I realize the Russians are using many long range missiles. I take this as a sign of their approach to limit infrastructure damage.

    But you don’t deny that they target infrastructure and cities with crude Iranian drones, right?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The actor-president is blatantly a puppet. I don't know if the cabinet is there to take care of lighting and makeup or perhaps they have some power and give him the script. I think the NeoNazi role in Ukraine is mainly to coerce and murder people. Some of them work for a Jewish guy with a shark tank in his office. I believe in the recent past there were Ukrainian political parties with some alignment with the NeoNazis.

    I imagine the drones are used as part of attacks on combat-relevant targets (including people) but to what degree the Russians are relaxing concerns on collateral damage is unknown. I expect Russia is gradually moving to a more conventional "total war". If and when they seriously target infrastructure it will probably be obvious, such as acres of buildings reduced to burning rubble in a few minutes. They have leveled several cities so the "reduced collateral damage" is mostly relative to large cities such as Kiev and a few others.

    I don't have an opinion on the information regarding the Maxim gun or the AK's. The Maxim gun is old. I don't know if that actually matters for spray and pray, but yeah it is very old. I will not be surprised when some Mosin-Nagants show up as you have mentioned in the past.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  1042. @Derer
    @John Johnson

    Scott Ritter personally learned and understand the consequences of WMD heinous lie that sent American young boys to die for nothing. Iraq had pro-Iran Shia majority that Saddam dealt with much better than the Washington morons. Ritter knows what kind of crimes are committed in Washington…you lost him to other site.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Ritter knows what kind of crimes are committed in Washington…you lost him to other site.

    Scott Ritter has lost his f-cking mind. He thinks Hamas is winning.

    No seriously watch the first 10 minute of this video. He is inventing all kinds of battles in his imagination.

    Scott Ritter says that Israel doesn’t have a solution to the tunnels.

  1043. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    Sure there is a video of a Maxim gun. It tells me nothing. That doesn’t mean one has to be a full skeptic but I think the “broad strokes” information is slightly more reliable.

    So you believe the logical assumption is that the Russians were not using a Maxim machine gun even though there are videos of recruits talking about how they don't have AK-47s for training?

    You do realize that the AK-47 is dated by the AK-74? Which means they don't have enough guns that use a design from 1974. Using AK-47s shows they are at the bottom of the barrel on small arms. But you think it is far fetched that they would use a Maxim machine gun even though the Ukrainians have used them?

    The “President” of Ukraine is a Jewish actor and some of the other players are Ukrainian NeoNazis, Tottenkopf and all.

    Who would you say is the biggest NeoNazi in the Jewish actor's cabinet?

    I realize the Russians are using many long range missiles. I take this as a sign of their approach to limit infrastructure damage.

    But you don't deny that they target infrastructure and cities with crude Iranian drones, right?

    Replies: @QCIC

    The actor-president is blatantly a puppet. I don’t know if the cabinet is there to take care of lighting and makeup or perhaps they have some power and give him the script. I think the NeoNazi role in Ukraine is mainly to coerce and murder people. Some of them work for a Jewish guy with a shark tank in his office. I believe in the recent past there were Ukrainian political parties with some alignment with the NeoNazis.

    I imagine the drones are used as part of attacks on combat-relevant targets (including people) but to what degree the Russians are relaxing concerns on collateral damage is unknown. I expect Russia is gradually moving to a more conventional “total war”. If and when they seriously target infrastructure it will probably be obvious, such as acres of buildings reduced to burning rubble in a few minutes. They have leveled several cities so the “reduced collateral damage” is mostly relative to large cities such as Kiev and a few others.

    I don’t have an opinion on the information regarding the Maxim gun or the AK’s. The Maxim gun is old. I don’t know if that actually matters for spray and pray, but yeah it is very old. I will not be surprised when some Mosin-Nagants show up as you have mentioned in the past.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    The actor-president is blatantly a puppet.

    How is he a puppet if he defied US advice on the invasion and Bakhmut?

    The US told Zelensky to put the military in a defensive posture in the expectation of a full invasion and he actually denied the request in favor of trying to appease Putin.

    Putin is actually lucky that Zelensky did not follow US advice. The invasion force was funneled in from Belarus and a trap could have been easily set. Zelensky screwed that up royally.

    The US also advised him to withdraw from Bakhmut as it had zero strategic utility. Zelensky again ignored that advice and chose to engage Wagner in various offensive actions.

    How is he a puppet if he did the opposite of what the US advised? Do explain.

    I believe in the recent past there were Ukrainian political parties with some alignment with the NeoNazis.

    I asked you to name the biggest NeoNazi in his cabinet and you didn't give me a single name.

    What exactly characterizes the government as NeoNazi? You can't name a single NeoNazi so what is the basis of this assertion?

    If and when they seriously target infrastructure it will probably be obvious, such as acres of buildings reduced to burning rubble in a few minutes.

    So you believe the latest attack on Kiev was against military targets? Is that right?

    You will go on record and state these were military targets?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvOaoYbHZU8

    Was the attack on the large apartment building a military strike?

    Replies: @QCIC

  1044. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    For sure, I didn’t bother to read this Hodiak guys biography
     
    You did read Mr. Hack's post though. You replied to it. In it, he stated "John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US "

    You don't know English well. And you've forgotten Russian, while sweeping floors in the rustbelt hole in northern England that you ended up in after escaping from 90s Kazan, a real hole back then.

    Any bimbo who additionally can’t speak a word of Russian

     

    I speak it well enough to to get around my old home in central Moscow and be confused by the locals for a Russian-speaking Baltic or Czech tourist. I was ordering at a cafe off Tverskoy boulevard in Russian with our former host.

    You would never be worthy of living in central Moscow, of course.

    You are a loser in two worlds - the Russian one you fled, and the English one you fled to.

    Congratulations.

    Last time I was in Moscow, in late 2019, when taking a walk to Red Square I came upon this scene. I suspect you don't know what this is:

    https://i.imgur.com/j3wsdoR.jpg

    (I'll describe it after "more")

    And you will never guess this show I went to, or the theater:

    https://i.imgur.com/gIlz3Mc.jpg

    Nicholas 2nd was given a wonderful reception in Lvov in 1915
     
    He left a positive impression on my great-grandfather, who saw him.

    most galician peasants (particularly those that emigrated to US pre-1918)- orthodox or even of the fake Uniate church were very Russophile
     
    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry. And you are 40 years out of date. Russophilia in Galicia peaked in the 1840s-1860s. But by World War I both groups had become mostly Ukrainian nationalists. Only 10%-15% of Galicians were still pro-Russian. They were an embattled minority. The first world war mostly finished them off, though the interwar Polish government sponsored their remnants.

    Huge numbers of Galicians did go to Russia, during the retreat of the Army from Galicia in WW1,
     
    About 25,000 went to Rostov on Don. Including a few of my relatives.



    1. They were filming the New Year's show for Russian TV. They filmed it December 14, well before New Year's.

    2. Bulgakov's Бег. At the Moscow Art Theater.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. XYZ

    Last time I was in Moscow, in late 2019, when taking a walk to Red Square I came upon this scene. I suspect you don’t know what this is:

    LMAO. About as believable as the earth being flat or the sun orbiting the earth. Nothing is confirmed as fake as much as when a worthless tramp like you gives a link to it you idiot. Enormous number of examples. So stop wasting my time by propagating your disturbed fantasies you idiot.

    He left a positive impression on my great-grandfather, who saw him.

    About 25,000 went to Rostov on Don. Including a few of my relatives.

    LOL. Why does a worthless POS carry on propagating such blatant, tedious lies. No sane person would believe that garbage.

    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry.

    No. In particularly if talking about those who emigrated to the US out of the Galician disaster zone in 19th – pre-ww1 20th century. Anti-Russian “Ukrainian” movement created by Austrian authorities in response to further Russian military successes in southern Europe ( 1870’s). Polish scum helping in this also. This was focused on pseudo-“Ukrainian” “elites” ( most of them outright or mixed Polish anyway) and the clergy.

    20th century arrives and from this until WW1 the focus is wider – not just fake intelligentsia and clergy , but youth organisations like Plast (ukrop scouts, formed under Austrian instruction – which of course a POS like you had never heard about before I type it) , paramilitary groups formed with the authorities approval and some other things…..but to say a mass “Ukrainian” consciousness had developed in the peasants living outside the cities is of course total BS. The ukrop national idea/myth did base itself on peasantry (hence why Grushevsky, Petliura and other scum prostituted themselves to the Bolsheviks at various stages because the national idea on peasantry of ukronazism was so closely linked to the Communists views on rise of the peasantry) ….. but that is not the same as saying Galician peasantry supported it.

    while sweeping floors in the rustbelt hole in northern England that you ended up in after escaping from 90s Kazan, a real hole back then. You are a loser in two worlds – the Russian one you fled, and the English one you fled to.

    LMAO. Once again, because you are a sociopath with a life lower than a slug…..you are projecting and wishing for what you WANT to be true. Every word in that quote is a lie.Now let’s have another comedy medical lesson!
    I suspect all this attention-whoring is to provoke me into telling more about myself to occupy your non-life.
    Anyway at least 1 of the following things applies to me, maybe 2, maybe 3 of them, possibly all 4:

    Relatives in Moscow,
    Studied in Moscow,
    Lived in Moscow
    Worked in Moscow.

    You can spend the New Year debating with yourself these 4 things you sick retard.

  1045. @AP
    @Derer

    Ukraine “on level of Zimbabwe” has managed to wrest control of the western Black Sea from Russia and remains standing after almost 2 years of Russian invasion despite Russia having about 4.5. times more people.

    Seethe some more, loser :-)

    Replies: @Gerard1234

    Ukraine “on level of Zimbabwe” has managed to wrest control of the western Black Sea from Russia and remains standing after almost 2 years of Russian invasion despite Russia having about 4.5. times more people.

    LOL

    1. That is total BS about the Black Sea.
    2. Any actions in the Black Sea has been done entirely with western plans, western technology, western orders, western intelligence ( suspect mostly British), western testing . I suppose a fraud like you can try to mimic being Ukrainian by attaching yourself to this – parasiting off and serving foreign powers, claiming their work as your own

    3. Zimbabwe’s Tank program is equal (maybe even better) to the Ukrop “Oplot” tank program , which have of course been invisible in the SMO, lol.
    I suspect a bimbo as yourself would have cluelessly endlessly promoted the Oplot program before 2022 like the useless wakjob you are. Just WTF did these clowns do in the 8 year period on this upgrade?

    4. DOCTOR Mugabe managed to defeat the Europeans out of Zimbabwe. The “4.5 times population” is just you being an aimless bimbo idiot again. If Doctor Mugabe had cuckolded himself with 4 different groups and been kicked out of Harare 4 different times (after about 2 seconds each time) from 4 failed invasions ..then the great man would have been viewed as a joke, a failure…………in Banderastan that catastrophe would get him viewed as “Ukrainian National hero” like that Petliura wakjob serial failure. Zimbabwe is standing, Ukraine failure is not.

  1046. @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The actor-president is blatantly a puppet. I don't know if the cabinet is there to take care of lighting and makeup or perhaps they have some power and give him the script. I think the NeoNazi role in Ukraine is mainly to coerce and murder people. Some of them work for a Jewish guy with a shark tank in his office. I believe in the recent past there were Ukrainian political parties with some alignment with the NeoNazis.

    I imagine the drones are used as part of attacks on combat-relevant targets (including people) but to what degree the Russians are relaxing concerns on collateral damage is unknown. I expect Russia is gradually moving to a more conventional "total war". If and when they seriously target infrastructure it will probably be obvious, such as acres of buildings reduced to burning rubble in a few minutes. They have leveled several cities so the "reduced collateral damage" is mostly relative to large cities such as Kiev and a few others.

    I don't have an opinion on the information regarding the Maxim gun or the AK's. The Maxim gun is old. I don't know if that actually matters for spray and pray, but yeah it is very old. I will not be surprised when some Mosin-Nagants show up as you have mentioned in the past.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    The actor-president is blatantly a puppet.

    How is he a puppet if he defied US advice on the invasion and Bakhmut?

    The US told Zelensky to put the military in a defensive posture in the expectation of a full invasion and he actually denied the request in favor of trying to appease Putin.

    Putin is actually lucky that Zelensky did not follow US advice. The invasion force was funneled in from Belarus and a trap could have been easily set. Zelensky screwed that up royally.

    The US also advised him to withdraw from Bakhmut as it had zero strategic utility. Zelensky again ignored that advice and chose to engage Wagner in various offensive actions.

    How is he a puppet if he did the opposite of what the US advised? Do explain.

    I believe in the recent past there were Ukrainian political parties with some alignment with the NeoNazis.

    I asked you to name the biggest NeoNazi in his cabinet and you didn’t give me a single name.

    What exactly characterizes the government as NeoNazi? You can’t name a single NeoNazi so what is the basis of this assertion?

    If and when they seriously target infrastructure it will probably be obvious, such as acres of buildings reduced to burning rubble in a few minutes.

    So you believe the latest attack on Kiev was against military targets? Is that right?

    You will go on record and state these were military targets?

    Was the attack on the large apartment building a military strike?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    I think the Russians are striking military targets including in the most recent missile and drone strikes. I don't have details of what exactly happened and this information is not published in the MSM on any side. I know that collateral damage and death always occur as well as fratricide and mistakes. I also know that if one starts a serious war and is losing, then hiding weapons, supplies and people directly among civilians is common throughout history.

    At some point the Russians may start striking civilian targets in order to pressure the civilians to stand up and throw out Western influence. I don't know if the Russians will take this approach, but it has happened in other wars. Even the bombing I mentioned would not be specifically against civilian targets, it is just that large area bombing is not very selective.

    If you believe MSM reports on Zelensky doing this or doing that (such as defying the West), I think you are very gullible.

    I don't claim the NeoNazis are part of the government leadership, but it is possible. As I have said many times I believe they serve as thugs operating above the law to pressure non-compliant leaders and people in the general Ukrainian population (pressure means threaten, assault and murder). They have respectability when Zelensky and other leaders have photo-opportunities with them. Even if they laugh in his face for being a gay Jewish actor he puts up with it. The NeoNazis are an accepted part of the system of control which the West uses to manipulate Ukraine. For the West, the NeoNazi leaders are totally expendable so when their usefulness is gone I expect them to evaporate, literally in some cases.

  1047. @John Johnson
    @QCIC

    The actor-president is blatantly a puppet.

    How is he a puppet if he defied US advice on the invasion and Bakhmut?

    The US told Zelensky to put the military in a defensive posture in the expectation of a full invasion and he actually denied the request in favor of trying to appease Putin.

    Putin is actually lucky that Zelensky did not follow US advice. The invasion force was funneled in from Belarus and a trap could have been easily set. Zelensky screwed that up royally.

    The US also advised him to withdraw from Bakhmut as it had zero strategic utility. Zelensky again ignored that advice and chose to engage Wagner in various offensive actions.

    How is he a puppet if he did the opposite of what the US advised? Do explain.

    I believe in the recent past there were Ukrainian political parties with some alignment with the NeoNazis.

    I asked you to name the biggest NeoNazi in his cabinet and you didn't give me a single name.

    What exactly characterizes the government as NeoNazi? You can't name a single NeoNazi so what is the basis of this assertion?

    If and when they seriously target infrastructure it will probably be obvious, such as acres of buildings reduced to burning rubble in a few minutes.

    So you believe the latest attack on Kiev was against military targets? Is that right?

    You will go on record and state these were military targets?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvOaoYbHZU8

    Was the attack on the large apartment building a military strike?

    Replies: @QCIC

    I think the Russians are striking military targets including in the most recent missile and drone strikes. I don’t have details of what exactly happened and this information is not published in the MSM on any side. I know that collateral damage and death always occur as well as fratricide and mistakes. I also know that if one starts a serious war and is losing, then hiding weapons, supplies and people directly among civilians is common throughout history.

    At some point the Russians may start striking civilian targets in order to pressure the civilians to stand up and throw out Western influence. I don’t know if the Russians will take this approach, but it has happened in other wars. Even the bombing I mentioned would not be specifically against civilian targets, it is just that large area bombing is not very selective.

    If you believe MSM reports on Zelensky doing this or doing that (such as defying the West), I think you are very gullible.

    I don’t claim the NeoNazis are part of the government leadership, but it is possible. As I have said many times I believe they serve as thugs operating above the law to pressure non-compliant leaders and people in the general Ukrainian population (pressure means threaten, assault and murder). They have respectability when Zelensky and other leaders have photo-opportunities with them. Even if they laugh in his face for being a gay Jewish actor he puts up with it. The NeoNazis are an accepted part of the system of control which the West uses to manipulate Ukraine. For the West, the NeoNazi leaders are totally expendable so when their usefulness is gone I expect them to evaporate, literally in some cases.

  1048. So you believe an attack on an apartment building in the Solomianskyi District was collateral damage?

    The area is entirely residential.

    When people around the world see Putin hit apartment buildings with missiles do you think they conclude it is all collateral damage?

    I also know that if one starts a serious war and is losing, then hiding weapons, supplies and people directly among civilians is common throughout history.

    Then why hasn’t Russia made any such claims?

    Do you think Iranian drones are accurate enough to hit a military target in a high rise building filled with civilians?

    If you believe MSM reports on Zelensky doing this or doing that (such as defying the West), I think you are very gullible.

    Once again you are projecting and not quoting me directly.

    There is cell phone video of Ukrainians being pulled from burning apartment buildings. Are you suggesting that I am gullible for believing that such events happened?

    I don’t claim the NeoNazis are part of the government leadership, but it is possible.

    So you are saying it is possible that Zelensky’s government is not NeoNazi?

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @John Johnson

    The Ukrainian government publicly approves of and accepts actual NeoNazis, probably to do the dirty work of the schemers in the government. The role of these Bandera types and other NeoNazis is not controversial. I never said the government is NeoNazi. I believe the NeoNazi thug aspect is related to why the more sane people in Ukraine were pressured into this war and have not ended it sooner when it is obviously a disaster for Ukraine. There are always nationalist loons around like AP and Hack who can rationalize a stupid war and cheerlead for it relentlessly. There are usually sane adults in the room to prevent this from happening. Thugs are used to drive these sensible people out of power or out of the country. The loons get their way and foolishly bumble into a proxy war.

    The Russians have pointed out since the beginning that the Ukrainians place air defense batteries near precious civilian targets such as schools.

    I doubt that Russia is using drones or missiles to kill random people. I can't rule it out just like I can't rule out that the US did this in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think the Israelis may be doing this in Gaza since it is more their style. If a Russian drone or missile is used to kill people in a building I generally assume there was a combat-relevant target there, either a specific person or some piece of equipment. We know the Ukrainians inevitably launch a lot of anti-air missiles over their own cities and use automatic cannon fire. Some attacking missiles may be aimed at relatively secluded targets but the debris and defensive missiles can impact randomly placed buildings in the city and kill bystanders. This is why people seek cover in the basements. It is also why countries do not start stupid proxy wars which only benefit a foreign power and simply get the pawns of the proxy killed.

    There are obviously Ukrainian civilians being killed by the Russian strikes. This information tells us nothing about the military purpose of a given strike.

  1049. @AP
    @Gerard1234


    For sure, I didn’t bother to read this Hodiak guys biography
     
    You did read Mr. Hack's post though. You replied to it. In it, he stated "John Hodiak, like AP, was born in the US "

    You don't know English well. And you've forgotten Russian, while sweeping floors in the rustbelt hole in northern England that you ended up in after escaping from 90s Kazan, a real hole back then.

    Any bimbo who additionally can’t speak a word of Russian

     

    I speak it well enough to to get around my old home in central Moscow and be confused by the locals for a Russian-speaking Baltic or Czech tourist. I was ordering at a cafe off Tverskoy boulevard in Russian with our former host.

    You would never be worthy of living in central Moscow, of course.

    You are a loser in two worlds - the Russian one you fled, and the English one you fled to.

    Congratulations.

    Last time I was in Moscow, in late 2019, when taking a walk to Red Square I came upon this scene. I suspect you don't know what this is:

    https://i.imgur.com/j3wsdoR.jpg

    (I'll describe it after "more")

    And you will never guess this show I went to, or the theater:

    https://i.imgur.com/gIlz3Mc.jpg

    Nicholas 2nd was given a wonderful reception in Lvov in 1915
     
    He left a positive impression on my great-grandfather, who saw him.

    most galician peasants (particularly those that emigrated to US pre-1918)- orthodox or even of the fake Uniate church were very Russophile
     
    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry. And you are 40 years out of date. Russophilia in Galicia peaked in the 1840s-1860s. But by World War I both groups had become mostly Ukrainian nationalists. Only 10%-15% of Galicians were still pro-Russian. They were an embattled minority. The first world war mostly finished them off, though the interwar Polish government sponsored their remnants.

    Huge numbers of Galicians did go to Russia, during the retreat of the Army from Galicia in WW1,
     
    About 25,000 went to Rostov on Don. Including a few of my relatives.



    1. They were filming the New Year's show for Russian TV. They filmed it December 14, well before New Year's.

    2. Bulgakov's Бег. At the Moscow Art Theater.

    Replies: @Gerard1234, @Mr. XYZ

    You have it backwards. The nobility were more likely to be Russophile than were the peasantry. And you are 40 years out of date. Russophilia in Galicia peaked in the 1840s-1860s. But by World War I both groups had become mostly Ukrainian nationalists. Only 10%-15% of Galicians were still pro-Russian. They were an embattled minority. The first world war mostly finished them off, though the interwar Polish government sponsored their remnants.

    You have previously said that around 40% of the Ukrainian nobility in Galicia was still Russophile back in the early 1910s. Is this accurate? The peasants were of course at 10-15%, as you said.

    Also, seems like Russia missed a golden opportunity to conquer Galicia back in 1866 when Prussia fought against Austria, or even back in 1848-1849, when it could have probably demanded this from the Hapsburgs in exchange for helping them crush the Hungarian uprising–or, alternatively, decide to support the Hungarians and get Galicia for themselves. Given just how much Russia was subsequently obsessed with the Balkans, it was stupid of Russia not to dismember Austria back in 1848-1849 by supporting the Hungarians. The Hungarians would have probably been a more loyal ally for Russia than Austria was.

  1050. @John Johnson
    So you believe an attack on an apartment building in the Solomianskyi District was collateral damage?

    The area is entirely residential.

    https://youtu.be/v7Nu1Yzwf7k?t=32

    When people around the world see Putin hit apartment buildings with missiles do you think they conclude it is all collateral damage?

    I also know that if one starts a serious war and is losing, then hiding weapons, supplies and people directly among civilians is common throughout history.

    Then why hasn't Russia made any such claims?

    Do you think Iranian drones are accurate enough to hit a military target in a high rise building filled with civilians?

    If you believe MSM reports on Zelensky doing this or doing that (such as defying the West), I think you are very gullible.

    Once again you are projecting and not quoting me directly.

    There is cell phone video of Ukrainians being pulled from burning apartment buildings. Are you suggesting that I am gullible for believing that such events happened?

    I don’t claim the NeoNazis are part of the government leadership, but it is possible.

    So you are saying it is possible that Zelensky's government is not NeoNazi?

    Replies: @QCIC

    The Ukrainian government publicly approves of and accepts actual NeoNazis, probably to do the dirty work of the schemers in the government. The role of these Bandera types and other NeoNazis is not controversial. I never said the government is NeoNazi. I believe the NeoNazi thug aspect is related to why the more sane people in Ukraine were pressured into this war and have not ended it sooner when it is obviously a disaster for Ukraine. There are always nationalist loons around like AP and Hack who can rationalize a stupid war and cheerlead for it relentlessly. There are usually sane adults in the room to prevent this from happening. Thugs are used to drive these sensible people out of power or out of the country. The loons get their way and foolishly bumble into a proxy war.

    The Russians have pointed out since the beginning that the Ukrainians place air defense batteries near precious civilian targets such as schools.

    I doubt that Russia is using drones or missiles to kill random people. I can’t rule it out just like I can’t rule out that the US did this in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think the Israelis may be doing this in Gaza since it is more their style. If a Russian drone or missile is used to kill people in a building I generally assume there was a combat-relevant target there, either a specific person or some piece of equipment. We know the Ukrainians inevitably launch a lot of anti-air missiles over their own cities and use automatic cannon fire. Some attacking missiles may be aimed at relatively secluded targets but the debris and defensive missiles can impact randomly placed buildings in the city and kill bystanders. This is why people seek cover in the basements. It is also why countries do not start stupid proxy wars which only benefit a foreign power and simply get the pawns of the proxy killed.

    There are obviously Ukrainian civilians being killed by the Russian strikes. This information tells us nothing about the military purpose of a given strike.

  1051. @Derer
    @Sean


    NATO build up that will soon increase the 4;1 advantage in ground forces that Nato has over Russia in East Europe.
     
    Your childishly assume that Germany, in the case of conflict, would stay allied with their present occupier. They will switch to their beneficial alliance with Russia in a moment. They are listening to the ghost of Napoleon and Hitler.

    Replies: @Sean

    Mearsheimer said years ago that it drove many American statigist crazy that Germany had economic and energy deals with Russia, while protected from Russian by NATO; that has not worked out well. Germany wanted its exports to be competitive though the EU single currency that deindustrialises the other membersand cheap Russian energy, while cocooned within NATO, with its defence paid for by US taxpayers. Germany is aghast at how they are now dependent on the US for energy that is high cost, and being called on to rearm. As always the governments economic experts’ cure for all troubles is more immigration and indeed it is a feature not a bug for the civil services of Western countries that immigration is inexorably rising year on year.

    Russia is a country that is unable to offer Germany such benefits as the West can. Also Russia is too close for a comfortable alliance as far as Germans are concerned. Leapfrogging to a country on the far side of a dangerous neighbour is the standard procedure in such a situation (alliance with Japan in ww2). So I think Germany will try to increase its capital goods sales to China and get establish friendly relations with it, but Germany needs the West when it comes down to it. The sconomits panacea will be repeat prescribed as nauseum: EthnoGermans will be a minority by 2090, somewhat later that Britain and France.

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Sean

    What does Germany have that China needs? Germany has no bargaining strength so China will strip mine Germany's remaining intellectual property.

    Germany would be much wiser to make up with Russia. She could lead a Baltic alliance with Russia and the other countries to create a mutual non-aggression pact which could gradually defuse the artificial ex-Cold War angst toward Russia.

  1052. @Sean
    @Derer

    Mearsheimer said years ago that it drove many American statigist crazy that Germany had economic and energy deals with Russia, while protected from Russian by NATO; that has not worked out well. Germany wanted its exports to be competitive though the EU single currency that deindustrialises the other membersand cheap Russian energy, while cocooned within NATO, with its defence paid for by US taxpayers. Germany is aghast at how they are now dependent on the US for energy that is high cost, and being called on to rearm. As always the governments economic experts' cure for all troubles is more immigration and indeed it is a feature not a bug for the civil services of Western countries that immigration is inexorably rising year on year.

    Russia is a country that is unable to offer Germany such benefits as the West can. Also Russia is too close for a comfortable alliance as far as Germans are concerned. Leapfrogging to a country on the far side of a dangerous neighbour is the standard procedure in such a situation (alliance with Japan in ww2). So I think Germany will try to increase its capital goods sales to China and get establish friendly relations with it, but Germany needs the West when it comes down to it. The sconomits panacea will be repeat prescribed as nauseum: EthnoGermans will be a minority by 2090, somewhat later that Britain and France.

    Replies: @QCIC

    What does Germany have that China needs? Germany has no bargaining strength so China will strip mine Germany’s remaining intellectual property.

    Germany would be much wiser to make up with Russia. She could lead a Baltic alliance with Russia and the other countries to create a mutual non-aggression pact which could gradually defuse the artificial ex-Cold War angst toward Russia.

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