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我们今天的主题是“种族是一个重要的话题还是一个虚构的话题?” 所以,我想开始我们对种族概念的讨论,提醒一下历史上种族指的是种族和身体特征。

但在此之前,我想通过描述自内战以来袭击印第安纳州的最大危机来解释思想类别与自然或现实类别之间的区别。 我在谈论将印第安纳州置于夏令时的决定:

29 年 2005 月 2 日,在州长米奇丹尼尔斯的经济发展计划的大力支持下,经过多年争议,印第安纳州议会通过了一项法律,规定自 2006 年 48 月 XNUMX 日起,印第安纳州将成为第 XNUMX 个州。遵守夏令时。[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana

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当时没人知道印第安纳州在 1970 年代经历了类似的危机,拒绝一年两次重设时钟。 1970年代时间变迁之战的无名女主角是一位女士,她打电话到一个脱口秀节目,认为她的草坪已经是棕色的,再多晒一个小时的阳光就会把它完全杀死。 这场争论在印第安纳州持续了将近 40 年,为了纪念那个女人,我写了这首歌,这可能是夏令时唯一存在的歌曲。

你们当中更有哲学头脑的人可能已经注意到她的论点存在缺陷。 她将自然或现实的类别与心灵的类别混淆,从而犯了一个类别错误。 一天根据可以改变的思维类别分为几个小时。 年份是基于一定的天数,是固定的,不能更改。

这一切与种族有什么关系? 正如我们现在对这个词的理解,种族是现实类别和思想类别的混合。 我被要求为种族是虚构的这一命题辩护,而不是“重要的现实”。 我们这些研究过哲学的人会认识到,这场辩论的主题是基于哲学家所说的错误二分法。

为了证明我的意思,我会请你思考我现在手里拿着的东西。 这是纳撒尼尔霍桑小说的复制品 “红字”. 这就是你所说的“一部小说”。 换句话说,它是真实的。 换句话说,小说不是小说。 如果你考虑像哈姆雷特、夏洛克或海丝特白兰这样的人物,我们知道他们的名字几个世纪之后,并且可以写关于他们的书,就像我写的时候一样 天使与机器,意味着这些小说在某种意义上比你在现实世界中遇到的任何犹太人、王子或清教徒女士都更真实,即使它们是心灵和夏洛克的范畴 从来没有作为真正的人存在。 在这种情况下,小说意味着思想的类别,这使我想到了我的论点:种族是一种虚构,我的意思是出于政治目的而强加于思想的种族类别。 更具体地说,种族,正如我们现在所理解的那样,是一种作为边缘化和控制形式强加于主体民族的思想类别。

根据 OED,种族是指“一群人、动物或植物,通过共同的血统或起源联系在一起。 一个人的后代或后代; 一组孩子或后代。 来自共同祖先的有限的一群人; 房子,家人,亲戚。 一个部落、国家或民族,被视为普通股。”

在中世纪的欧洲,每个人都属于一个“共同祖先后裔的有限群体”或另一个,但“白种人”是一个完全未知的概念。 欧洲作家将欧洲同胞称为“白人”的最早例子直到 1613 年才出现,当时托马斯·米德尔顿 (Thomas Middleton) 的戏剧中出现了一位非洲国王 真理的胜利 看着英国观众,并宣称:“我看到这些白人的脸上/脸上充满了惊奇,带着神奇的戒指和奇怪的目光。”[2]https://aeon.co/ideas/how-white-people-were-invented...n-1613

当我称自己为双种族时,意思是我来自爱尔兰和德国血统,我只是在利用曾经被 OED 接受的术语的含义,该术语将种族定义为“由几个部落组成的群体或民族,形成了独特的族群。” 1883 年格林在他的《征服英格兰》中写道:“勇气是整个德国种族的遗产。”

“种族”一词也被用来形容“人类最伟大的种族之一”。 在这种情况下,种族意味着“具有某些共同的身体特征”。 1861 年,布鲁门巴赫将这些“身体特征”分为“五个种族:1st. 白种人; 2nd 蒙古人; 3rd 埃塞俄比亚人; 4th 美国人; 5th 马来人。” 但这只是该术语的一种用法。

那么,当我们说种族是“真实的”时,我们的意思是什么? 我们的意思是种族一直是现实的一个类别。 我们还意味着物理特征是真实的,它们因您来自地球的哪个部分而异。 鼻子的形状和皮肤的颜色是现实的类别。 然而,与它们相关的美德或恶习是出于政治原因而适用的思想类别。

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那么,回到我们最初的例子,一天 24 小时是心智的一个范畴这一事实是否意味着白天和黑夜没有区别? 不,当然不是。 24小时昼夜组织; 它不会取代它们。 同样,像“白人种族”这样的类别,无论是被 Jared Taylor 还是 Noel Ignatiev 引用,都以一种独立于特征本身的方式为政治目的调动了生物学特征。

如果在中世纪就知道“白种人”,它就会被称为普遍的。 普遍性是自然之外的东西,它被带到自然中以组织自然并因此使其易于理解。 普遍性也可用于出于政治目的将自然武器化。

举一个最近出于政治目的操纵普遍性的例子,有一群人,我恰好是其中之一,他们在 2016 年投票支持唐纳德特朗普。 这是现实的一个类别。 这些人有真实的身份; 他们有姓名和地址,大概他们都是登记选民,如果不是,他们应该是。

失去那次选举的希拉里克林顿将这群人描述为“一篮子可悲的人”。 那是什么类型的术语? 我想这里的每个人都会同意它是一种思想的武器化类别。 更具体地说,“deplorables”是一个词,它描述了希拉里·克林顿的思想类别,除了希拉里·克林顿的思想之外,与其他任何事物都没有关系。 那些人是可悲的吗? 只有在希拉里克林顿的脑海中。 可悲是基于自然类别的心灵类别。 它类似于女性主义一词,后者是基于自然类别的另一个术语,即女性,但已被用于政治目的。 当我们从“妇女”转向“妇女权利”,从“妇女权利”转向堕胎时,这一点变得显而易见。 通过征用作为自然范畴的“女人”一词,女权主义者希望强迫人们同意那些不过是心灵范畴的命题。

“可悲”一词也是去年夏天发生在圣路易斯的身份盗窃的一种形式,当时作为白人男孩开始生活的奥马尔·李在上高中时变成了黑人,并结束了作为一名穆斯林,将那些想要阻止圣路易斯雕像拆除的人描述为“白人至上主义者”。 当他们聚集在雕像周围时,可以看到那群人正在念玫瑰经,这表明他们是天主教徒。 然而,如果李将他们认定为天主教徒,他就会输掉这场战斗。 事实上,当我在一篇文章中将他们认定为天主教徒时 文化战争,他确实输了这场战斗,因为天主教徒仍然拥有权利,而白人至上主义者则没有。 “白人至上主义者”是思想的范畴,而天主教是现实的范畴。

批判种族理论以社会学为基础; 白人种族主义基于生物学,但这两种意识形态都是身份盗窃的形式,它们为了政治目的操纵思想类别。 这两组之间的唯一区别是他们对白人和黑人类别的价值判断。 在这两种情况下,以自然类别为基础对身体特征的描述开始神奇地转变为思想类别,其目的是为经济不公正辩护。 这是真的 17th 世纪弗吉尼亚州,种植园主阶级决定根据肤色划分工人阶级,从而确保工人阶级白人被认为优于黑人工人阶级的温顺劳动力。 21 世纪的批判种族理论也是如此st 世纪,它同时扭转并维持了最初基于“种族”的好/坏二分法,并将其作为平权行动的理由,这也是经济不公正的一种形式。

如果我问每个观看这场辩论的人是否是白人,大多数人都会同意他们是。 但如果我问他们是否是 Mzungu,我可能会得到不同的回答。 如果你问我是不是 Mzungu 人,我会说是,但前提是我在东非,因为 Mzungu 是斯瓦希里语中白人的意思。 如果您说立陶宛语和/或住在立陶宛,那么您就是立陶宛人,但在您到达东非之前,您不是姆宗古人。

这一点, 比照,这正是欧洲人移民美国时发生的事情。 在他们到来之前,他们并不认为自己是白人,因为黑人和白人作为心灵的类别都依赖于地理和文化,尽管构成我们理解的特征是独立于上下文的自然类别。 因为立陶宛没有黑人,立陶宛人不认为自己是白人。 在维尔纽斯,他们被称为立陶宛人,但当马丁·路德·金出现在芝加哥的立陶宛社区马凯特公园时,他们变成了白人,主要是因为他们敢于反对金接管他们社区的企图。 “白色”是心灵的一个类别,即使在 1966 年,它也已被武器化以将其应用于的人非人化,以便在一场未宣战的战争中击败他们。

与基于不可否认真实但微不足道的特征的种族不同,种族是基于人类最重要特征的普遍性,这是将人与地球上所有其他动物区分开来的特征,即语言,这是人类最普遍的表现形式。徽标和我们作为理性生物的本质。

立陶宛人来自世界的某个地方。 他们吃某些种类的食物,但首先,立陶宛人是一个群体,因为他们讲一种特定的语言,立陶宛以外的人很少能理解这种语言。 被称为种族的普遍性主要基于语言。 举个例子,普遍的立陶宛人更像性,而不是“红发”,这是真实的但微不足道的或“可悲的”,这完全是一个人的思想范畴。 立陶宛语是指一种语言,它是现实的一个重要类别,因为它是特定人群中种族认同和理性话语的基础。

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坦桑尼亚有 76 个不同的民族,当谈到“种族”时,所有这些民族都无法区分,正如目前所理解的那样。 被称为 Kikuyu 的普遍性内容既客观又重要,因为语言在传递决定行为的价值观方面起着重要作用。 另一方面,被称为“黑人”或“白人”的普遍性,虽然基于我们已经讨论过的客观现实,但没有任何意义或有意义的内容,因为表面的种族差异对行为或身份没有影响,除了被预测的内容在他们作为心灵的类别。

心灵的类别可以成为决定行为的普遍性。 在参观了南达科他州斯特吉斯著名的摩托车拉力赛后,我曾经写过一篇关于美国摩托车文化的文章。 有人告诉我,在那个节日的高峰期,有人喊道:“嘿,混蛋,”然后每个人都转过身来。 “混蛋”是基于自然范畴还是心灵范畴的普遍性? 嗯,它既是人体的一部分,又是心灵的一个类别,被用作侮辱。

我为什么要提这个? 我是说,如果你认为自己是白人,那么你就像在骑自行车的集会上当有人大喊“嘿,混蛋”时转身的骑自行车的人,因为像“混蛋”一样,白人是一个贬义词,允许当权者剥夺他们的权利谁认定为白人他们的权利。 在夏洛茨维尔发生的事情之后,很明显,“白人”不仅是思想的一个类别,而且还是介于“可悲”和“混蛋”之间的明显贬义词。 任何采用这个词的人都是在将压迫者的命令内化并自找麻烦。

将弗吉尼亚州夏洛茨维尔发生的事情与同一州最近发生在里士满的事情进行比较。 那里的“普遍”是枪支拥有者,因此,尽管许多相同的人出现在两次集会上,但没有人入狱。 不同之处在于应用于它们的普遍性。 “枪支拥有者”是基于自然范畴的普遍性,它包含仍受宪法保障的权利。 “白色”是一种普遍性,如果我们谈论肤色、鼻子形状等,它与现实有一些微不足道的联系,但这种普遍性已成为思想或虚构的一个类别,现在被用于政治目的头脑。 与枪支拥有者不同,白人被剥夺了言论自由和集会的权利。 夏洛茨维尔就是证明。 这使我得出我的结论:种族是一种为政治目的而被武器化的思想类别。

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就像一般的女权主义者,特别是希拉里·克林顿一样,泰勒先生等种族理论家的论点基于一种诡计,这种诡计以一种故意欺骗的方式从现实类别转换为基于对同一词的模棱两可使用的思想类别.

贾里德·泰勒 (Jared Taylor) 于 2018 年在哥本哈根的 Scandza 论坛上展示了这种智力上的技巧,他整理了以下事实:“美国黑人的非法率为 77%。 在美国的某些地区,婚姻在黑人社区中完全消失了。 而白人的非婚生率为 30%。” 在引用“这些。 . . 显着的差异,”泰勒然后不诚实地问道,“我们如何解释它们?” 然后嘲弄地回答他自己的问题,他接着说“唯一的解释一定是白人种族主义。”

种族理论家相信诸如“科学”和“智商”之类的东西,但他们从不引用与“种族”是基本社会现实和社会病理学的最终原因这一既定结论相矛盾的研究。 泰勒没有引用的研究表明,在决定智力方面,家庭和信仰比种族更重要。

考虑到这样的研究,泰勒的事实提出的问题多于他们回答的问题。 黑人社区的非婚生人数是否一直保持在 77%? 白人非法率也是如此。 总是 30% 吗? 黑人与白人的非法性比例总是大约二比一吗?

通过提出黑人私生子问题,泰勒有意或无意地援引了以当时的交通部副部长丹尼尔·帕特里克·莫伊尼汉命名的莫伊尼汉报告,他在 1963 年报告说黑人私生子已经达到流行病的程度,因为所有黑人儿童中有 21% 是出生的非婚生子女。

如果我们随着时间的推移查看百分比,差异会变得更加显着。 根据布鲁金斯学会的一份报告:“1965 年,24% 的黑人婴儿和 3.1% 的白人婴儿是单身母亲所生。 到 1990 年,黑人婴儿的比率上升到 64%,白人婴儿的比率上升到 18%。”[3]https://www.brookings.edu/research/an-analysis-of-ou...tates/ 当然,这意味着白人的非法性现在高于当时的黑人非法性。 这告诉我们关于种族的什么? 答案是它什么也没告诉我们,但它确实告诉了我们很多关于文化变迁的信息。

仔细研究后,真正的问题似乎不是,为什么黑人的非婚生率是 1965 年的三倍,而是为什么白人的非婚生率在同一时期增加了 1965 倍? XNUMX 年,黑人的非法率是白人的八倍。 现在只有双倍的白费率。 如果种族是预测私生子的主要因素,为什么我们现在会出现白人现在比黑人生育更多私生子的情况? 泰勒没有表示种族在这段时间内发生了变化,但有些事情已经发生了变化。 然后怎样呢?

这个问题的答案是文化发生了变化,1965 年是这方面的关键一年。 同年春天,最高法院下达了 格里斯沃尔德对阵康涅狄格 决定废除康斯托克时代禁止销售避孕药具的法律。 大约在同一时间,好莱坞发布了大屠杀色情电影,打破了禁止裸体、亵渎和淫秽内容的制作法典。 典当行.

种族在这两个重要事件中都没有发挥任何作用,但种族却起了作用,特别是如果我们根据三重熔炉理论来定义美国的种族,该理论指出,在三代人之后,宗教成为美国种族认同的来源。 美国由基于三种宗教的三个民族组成:新教、天主教和犹太人。 埃斯特尔·格里斯沃尔德 (Estelle Griswold) 是一位耶鲁大学教授的白人妻子。 生育控制是一场新教运动,最初的资金来自同样是白人的洛克菲勒家族。

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好莱坞从一开始就是犹太人的创造,色情也是。 天主教徒在这些问题上与这两个团体进行了斗争。 种族在这场冲突中没有发挥作用,如果种族叠加在这场冲突上作为其最终解释者,那么发生的事情将永远神秘。 上世纪 60 年代的文化革命导致黑人和白人的非法率飙升,这完全是在三重熔炉的范围内发生的,三重熔炉将宗教而不是种族指定为美国文化冲突的母体。

换句话说,种族并不能解释泰勒自己引用的统计数据。 通过使用种族作为他的社会病理学标准,泰勒实际上为文化衰败的真正肇事者提供了掩护。 在谈到非法行为后,泰勒改变了立场并抱怨互联网平台上“对我们可以说的内容进行了严格的私人限制”,声称“谷歌、Facebook 和 Twitter 是 . . . 审查我们的想法”实际上是互联网审查的主要参与者,事实上,用来证明审查正当性的“仇恨言论”一词的发明者是反诽谤联盟,这是一个犹太组织。

这就引出了我们的第一个问题:犹太人是白人吗?

另一个犹太组织南方贫困法律中心已经为我们回答了这个问题,该中心对泰勒的组织美国复兴大加赞赏。 我指出了这一点 文化战争 在 2007 年的一篇文章中,描述了两个组织如何操纵种族来掩盖美国正在进行的文化部落战争传奇中的真正参与者。 南方贫困法律中心是一个类似于 ADL 的犹太人诽谤行动,该行动将约翰·夏普妖魔化为种族主义的反犹太主义者,因为他参加了贾里德·泰勒的美国文艺复兴时期会议之一。

然而,如果我们登录 SPLC 网站并在他们的搜索引擎中输入 American Renaissance,我们会发现 SPLC 有关于该组织的好话要说。 事实上,快速搜索 SPLC 网站告诉我们,AR 总裁 Jared Taylor 是“反犹太主义的反对者”。 我们被告知,美国文艺复兴时期网络讨论组的负责人肖恩·默瑟(Shawn Mercer)“删除了大多数谴责犹太人的帖子。”

这仅证实了我们从其他来源了解到的信息。 在出现在美国保守党的山姆弗朗西斯的讣告中,我们被告知贾里德泰勒想要为白人民族主义做些什么,就像威廉 F.巴克利为保守主义所做的那样。 那是什么? 好吧,为了犹太人的利益而颠覆它。 SPLC 网站上的一个条目声称:“众所周知,美国文艺复兴不允许反犹太主义; 它是住宅区,100% 干净的 WN [白人民族主义]。 如果您愿意,可以称其为第一步,但这是非常重要的第一步,Jared Taylor 取得了成功。”[4]https://culturewars.com/news/guilt-by-association

所以,祝贺贾里德让犹太人适合礼貌的陪伴。 然而,这种转变对任何参与文化战争的人都产生了严重的后果。 一旦犹太人变成白人,他们就变得隐形,而一旦革命的犹太人变得隐形,我们就遇到了严重的困难,无法对困扰西方 50 多年的任何病态提供令人信服的解释——从无限武器化移民到色情到堕胎到中东战争。

在他的一个 You Tube 视频中,Taylor 说:“如果我们什么都不做,我们就会被那些因为我们所创造的东西而憎恨我们并因为让他们把它从我们身边夺走而鄙视我们的人推到一边。”[5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFUUNQz3sYM 这些“因为我们所建造的东西而憎恨我们”的人是谁? 谁给了我们色情、同性婚姻、中东无休止的战争以及 60 年代美国和欧洲的武器化移民? 是来自密西西比州和南卡罗来纳州的无名佃农,还是像福特基金会的约翰·麦克洛伊这样的“白人”,利用莱昂·沙利文这样的黑人部长对费城的天主教堂区进行种族清洗? 是来自利比亚的无名船民,还是像芭芭拉·勒纳·斯佩克特这样的“白人”,她为席卷德国和瑞典等国家的武器化移民浪潮辩护说:“欧洲必须变得多元文化才能生存......。 由于犹太人将站在这场巨大变革的最前沿,犹太人会因为他们的领导作用而感到不满。”[6]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ERmOpZrKtw

Barbara Lerner Spectre 并不是唯一一个对欧洲传统文化表达敌意的犹太人。 约翰霍普金斯大学教授 Yascha Mounk 表示,犹太人“目前正在进行一项独特的实验,我们正在将单一民族的民主转变为多民族的多元文化社会。”[7]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hA5IZAVXnk „Wir führen ein historisch einzigartiges Experiment durch, indem wir eine monoethnische Demokratie in eine multiethnische und multikulturelle Gesellschaft verwandeln 在接受 Westdeutscher Rundfunk 的 Presseclub 采访时,Mounk 表示“国家必须惩罚任何‘出于仇恨’反对建立多民族社会的人。”[8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ansHGlc5pI

Im Presseclub des WDR (Westdeutscher Rundfunk) sagte Yascha Mounk den schweigenden, ins Leere schauende Gesprächsteilnehmern: „Der Staat muß diejenigen bestrafen, welche `aus Hass´ sich gegen die Erschaffung der multiethenschenft

在 2007 年爱尔兰公民公投前夕,以色列学者罗尼特·伦丁 (Ronit Lentin) 提出“审问爱尔兰民族如何成为非白人(基督徒和定居者),通过特权种族化的声音,颠覆国家移民,但也整合,政策。”[9]https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/08/30/bec...ivism/ 不熟悉美国情况的人可以查看 ADL 负责人格林布拉特先生在 You Tube 上解释为什么需要更多的互联网审查。[10]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1578&...b_logo 格林布拉特先生是白人吗? Barbara Lerner Spectre 是白色的吗? 如果答案是肯定的,那么当前的情况就变得完全不可理解,因为欧洲武器化移民和互联网审查的主要推动者突然与他们试图审查和摧毁的人同在一个团队。 这没有意义。

显然,这里出了点问题,问题在于贾里德泰勒对种族这个词的虚假使用。 正如泰勒所说,种族是一种与希拉里·克林顿 (Hilary Clinton) 使用的“可悲的”非常相似的心理类别。 它将自然类别武器化以达到政治效果。 这在他使用“白人”一词时变得显而易见,其中包括犹太人,但排除了像凯文麦克唐纳这样的人,他从未被邀请参加美国文艺复兴时期的会议,因为他批评犹太人。

大卫杜克同样是真的,他的试图被泰勒的“妻子”伊芙琳富裕地被淘汰了路易斯安那州的州路易斯安那州的总督。 泰勒鼓吹种族团结,但他的做法恰恰相反,他充当犹太人利益的政委,以确保“白人”一词不符合自然类别,而是符合贾里德·泰勒(Jared Taylor)思想的类别。 一旦有革命思想的犹太人变成白人,他就成为“我们中的一员”,这意味着他变得隐形,可以通过宣扬破坏文化的现象,如堕胎、同性婚姻、高利贷和色情,自由地对西方文化发动战争.

但这只是故事的一半。 通过让犹太人成为白人,泰勒同时让白人成为犹太人,将他们变成了不知情的帮凶,破坏了他们自己的文化和自己的生活,就像在夏洛茨维尔发生的那样。 任何声称犹太人是白人的人都是他声称领导的“白人”的敌人。 就像马赫迪激励他的成千上万的追随者向基奇纳的马克西姆枪冲锋,在恩图曼战役中挥舞着骆驼骑着弯刀一样,像贾里德泰勒这样的种族辩护者激励理查德斯宾塞向白人男孩分发长矛,并指向他们的方向。夏洛茨维尔的合法机关枪巢穴,在那里他们都被一个自称为“胖乎乎的女同性恋 kike”的名叫罗伯塔·卡普兰 (Roberta Kaplan) 的人砍倒了。

杰瑞德,罗伯塔·卡普兰是白人吗?

詹妮弗鲁宾是白人吗,贾里德? 如果是这样,为什么她只是在推特上说即将到来的“白人”少数民族地位是“神话般的消息”。 如果犹太人是白人,为什么詹妮弗·鲁宾觉得有必要“阻止少数白人统治”?

我想我知道这个问题的答案。 如果犹太人是白人,那么白人就是犹太人。 由于犹太人有权力而白人没有权力,这意味着遵循泰勒对种族理解的白人最终将压迫者的命令内化,并被他们需要反对的人控制。 贾里德知道这一点,但你知道吗? 当有人大喊“嘿,混蛋”时,你会转身吗? 你愿意因为品类错误而毁了你的生活吗?

说明

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana

[2] https://aeon.co/ideas/how-white-people-were-invented-by-a-playwright-in-1613

[3] https://www.brookings.edu/research/an-analysis-of-out-of-wedlock-births-in-the-united-states/

[4] https://culturewars.com/news/guilt-by-association

[5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFUUNQz3sYM

[6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ERmOpZrKtw

[7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hA5IZAVXnk „Wir führen ein historisch einzigartiges Experiment durch, indem wir eine monoethnische Demokratie in eine multiethnische und multikulturelle Gesellschaft verwandeln

[8] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ansHGlc5pI

Im Presseclub des WDR (Westdeutscher Rundfunk) sagte Yascha Mounk den schweigenden, ins Leere schauende Gesprächsteilnehmern: „Der Staat muß diejenigen bestrafen, welche `aus Hass´ sich gegen die Erschaffung der multiethenschenft

[9] https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/08/30/become-other-than-white-ireland-and-radical-jewish-activism/

[10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1578&v=DNJve-X895g&feature=emb_logo

 
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  1. I’m rather unconvinced there aren’t real differences between the races, but Jones is right to point out the holes in race realist arguments.

    I’d also like to ask, if America used to be Catholics, Protestants, and Jews, what is it now? Certainly Protestants have split into two tribes by now, at least. This is just an observation.

    Where the article really shines is pointing out the Jewish influence on so much of what is happening. Although, one may also find plenty of malignant old-money WASP influence, I think it’s clear there’s a special Jewishness to the rottenness in the West. But, Jones’s ascribing of collaborationism to Taylor is a bit much for me. I might be naive, but I can’t help but feel Taylor is sincere and trying to do good. I would hope Jones would pray for Taylor to see the light, instead of attacking him in such a hurtful way.

    • 同意: Liosnagcat
    • 回复: @AndrewR
    , @Publius 2
    , @Anonymous
  2. Richard B 说:

    我们今天的主题是“种族是一个重要的话题还是一个虚构的话题?”

    我谦虚地建议将该问题重新定义为:

    种族是工具上有效的类别吗?

    有趣的是,人们可能会争辩说,种族这个词在逻辑上是一个空的类别。 但这并不意味着它在工具上无效。

    事实上,请考虑介绍中来自 EMJ 的这句话。

    在这种情况下,小说意味着心灵的类别,这让我想到了我的论文: 种族是虚构的, 我的意思是,心灵的种族类别 出于政治目的强加. 更具体地说,种族,正如我们现在所理解的那样,是一种作为边缘化和控制形式强加于主体民族的思想类别。

    上面 EMJ 自己承认,种族这个词被用于政治目的,这一事实使得问题的答案很明显 种族是工具上有效的类别吗? is.

    简而言之,当我们使用“种族”这个词时,我们实际上是在谈论某些事情。

    当然,进一步的证明是这篇文章本身以及泰勒和琼斯之间的争论。 这基本上相当于对一个词的含义和用法的辩论。 在这种情况下,种族这个词。

    这是这类讨论中最好的部分,它们将注意力引向意义的本质,并且通过这样做使意义变得清晰 决心 由人。 毕竟,文字不指代,人指代。

    归根结底,语言的目的是行为控制。 EMJ 甚至在上面引用中使用了这个词。 就像他用上帝这个词来控制自己的行为一样。

    归根结底,问题是那些被称为白人的人,因此是历史上第一个全球替罪羊,他们将如何回应种族这个词以确保他们的生存。 因为很明显,敌对的精英正在利用他们对这个词的反应来确保他们指定的替罪羊要么变得无能为力,要么被迫灭绝。

    话很重要。 但是,最重要的是我们对他们的回应。

    • 同意: Astuteobservor II
    • 不同意: Liosnagcat
    • 回复: @Astuteobservor II
    , @AndrewR
  3. How do you explain BAMMAMA factor or blacks-are-more-muscular-and-more-aggressive? That accounts for black pathology and criminality in the West. It’s why blacks usually attack and beat up weaker/slower/softer whites.

    黑人在美国受到基督教的影响,因为他们是野蛮人,但随着自由,他们正在恢复他们的 oogity-boogity 丛林本性。

    Also, it’s wrong to compare Germanic Barbarians with black savages. Germanics were backward relative to the Romans, but they still had culture and semblance of complex societies.
    相比之下,黑人是令人毛骨悚然的丛林战车或大草原邦纳。

    But even among savages, we see differences. American Indians were savages, but their racial character is different from that of blacks. Indians are stone-faced fellers who barely say ‘juicy fruit’ whereas blacks be ragging and rapping all the time.

  4. Malcolm X 说:

    问题在于,在美国以及南非和澳大利亚等地,白人被定义为与黑人相对立。 在美国的背景下,它的定义特别针对美国动产奴隶制的黑人后裔。 白人是一种赋予白人社会政治地位和权力的方式,无论出于何种时尚原因,都拒绝黑人。 这就是为什么没有黑人的存在,白人以种族来定义自己。 由于政治遵循经济,因此黑人被系统地拒绝参与和发展规模经济,这将改变他们的社会地位和政治权力。 这种持久的关系正是贾里德·泰勒 (Jared Taylor) 所利用的,它帮助犹太人利用黑人作为恶棍来吓唬白人,使其遵守社会政治的死胡同,例如公民民族主义、犹太教-基督教、智商以及犯罪和社会统计分析。 这种焦点的转移使白人无法看到,不断对黑人文化缺陷的指责阻止了黑人在美国长期存在和历史存在的问题得到纠正。 整改不力导致犹太人利用这些意识形态的死胡同,通过增加越来越多的边缘化群体来安抚白人的情绪。 亚洲人被带进来,犹太媒体宣传白人,让他们相信他们是模范少数族裔。 他们被告知要相信亚洲人的智商更高,女性更受欢迎,最重要的是,他们不像黑人。 其他团体也有同样的宣传机器,影响白人对他们的看法。 因此,白人从不关心美国的褐变到想要一个“白人民族国家”,这本身就是一种矛盾。 这个问题的真正解决方案是解决美国奴隶制黑人后裔的社会政治问题。 这是唯一一个对美国政府有合法要求的非白人团体。 美洲原住民部落甚至没有要求,因为他们有应该执行的条约。 所有其他移民群体对美国政府没有任何要求,只是为各种关系密切的官员、公司和承包商提供经济机会。 我知道这个网站是针对美国传统问题的,但除非我被禁止,否则我不会停止谈论这个问题。 美国奴隶的黑人后裔需要赔偿,以便让美国传统文化能够推进您的政治计划。 没有其他办法解决它。 除非你能消除犹太人利用黑人作为棍棒接受其他各种来到美国“寻求更好生活”的心怀不满的群体的悲惨故事的能力,否则你将失败!!

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  5. Anon[381]• 免责声明 说:

    I truly enjoy much of EMJ’s work but he loses me on his definition of race. If you call yourself white you have a target on your back, well so be it.

    • 同意: Liosnagcat
  6. 我曾经与否认种族的老年白痴 E. Michael Jones 进行了直播辩论,他试图争辩说美国的三个主要种族是天主教徒、犹太人和新教徒。 是的——他真的被迷惑了。

    — 吉姆·戈德

    “Senile dipshit” – I hate insults and ad hominems, and favour always being courteous 但是, dang, I couldn’t but laugh!

    来源: https://counter-currents.com/2021/04/do-white-people-exist/

  7. KenH 说:

    鼻子的形状和皮肤的颜色是现实的类别。 然而,与它们相关的美德或恶习是出于政治原因而适用的思想类别。

    The disproportionate black homicide rate of 54-55% and their disproportionate violent crime rates are categories of the mind? What about their demonstrably lower IQ’s?

    Jared Taylor clearly won the debate when it came to race and why it’s a biological reality. E. Michael Jones could only offer bizarre explanations as to why race is just an artificial construct and a “state of the mind”. However, when it came to the subject of Jews, E. Michael Jones did have Taylor on the ropes for a bit and I was surprised when Taylor conceded that overall Jews have had a negative influence on America and the West.

    以前,泰勒会告诉我们犹太人是白人,因为他们在他看来是白人。 故事结局。

    Most everyone on this site knows that while some Jews do look phenotypically European it’s their psychological makeup which makes them averse and implacably hostile to all things non-Jewish and this will forever set them apart from not only white Europeans but the rest of mankind. Not only that but if white Americans and Europeans continue to blind themselves to what diaspora Jewry is doing to white, Western societies and implement strong countermeasures then there’s little hope of things getting better.

  8. Cutler 说:

    His position on race bonkers and has no basis in reality, Bizarre.

    • 同意: jamie b., RichardTaylor
    • 回复: @Ruckus
    , @Stan d Mute
  9. Chensley 说:

    Dr. Jones, I have a lot of respect for you but you appear to have tied your mind into quite a few knots in your attempt to square the circle of race into your understanding of the world.

    1. Small things first. Dr. Jones, with all due respect, I think you need to work on your sense of humor or at least your ability to detect it.

    Taylor then asks disingenuously “How do we account for them?” and then mockingly answering his own question, he goes on to say that “The only explanation must be white racism.”

    This is how Mr. Taylor presents information in a more light-hearted way. Perhaps you’ve watched enough of his AmRen videos but I suspect you haven’t. I don’t blame you for this as you probably have more productive things to do, but if you were more familiar with his delivery method, you would understand that he’s not being truly disingenuous as it’s a rhetorical device.

    I once wrote an article on motorcycle culture in America after visiting the famous biker rally in Sturgis, South Dakota. At the high point of that festival, I was told, someone yelled, “Hey, asshole,” and everyone turned around.

    Again, this wasn’t being used as an insult but more as an in-group joke that everyone there was an “asshole.” Maybe I’m not detecting that you understood this but it’s quite clear to me. Apologies if I’ve misread you.

    2. Race is not just a social construct or some designation that is arbitrarily handed out, although it has been wrongfully used that way as a cudgel against Whites where we are simultaneously both a group that is responsible for everything wrong in the world and a group that doesn’t exist! Everyone else gets to have a racial identity but not Whites. Racial differences are ubiquitous throughout our entire self, they are not superficial. fMRI, X-ray, biomarkers, IQ tests, sports performance all support these innate and unique differences within and between different racial groups.

    Your argument seems to stem from a continuum fallacy. Our race is in our blood (genetics). Europeans are the White race. Migration to a country does not change a persons race. DNA testing supports this as does history and our unique geographical distribution to the continent of European and our migrations to North America, Australia, South Africa and elsewhere. DNA analysis has allowed us to zoom in deeper than ever to examine our ancestral ties and your citing of previous definitions does not override modern changes in nomenclature. In fact, they support one another. Europeans are the White race. We evolved on the continent of Europe. We have shared ancestry and this makes us unique.

    For someone to move to a country and start having offspring that are eventually absorbed into that groups genetic profile would eventually mean that foreign outlier is erased from the history of that group as if they were never there. Their offspring may eventually merge into that ethnic group, but not so long as their racial/genetic profile is sufficiently different. This would make having an ethnicity an oxymoron and defy genetics and ancestry. Perhaps in the future a person may be able to change their genetics and then their race but not today.

    In Lithuania, the phenotype of the White race, the expression of our DNA, has evolved into the Lithuanian people with their language. Yes this makes them unique, but that doesn’t change the fact that we’re still part of the same family, cousins if you will, perhaps more distant or more proximal depending on where a person traces their ancestry. The same is true of all the European ethnic groups. We are a family, the White or European family. The same is true of the other peoples of the world.

    The deracination that has occurred to Europeans outside of Europe is why many of us now categorize ourselves as White. Yes it has been forced upon us. We live in proposition nations that no longer have a racial or ethnic requirement so we have been forced to find one for ourselves. This is what being White/European in our countries has been reduced to. It is a tragedy and one that you should acknowledge in it’s proper context.

    Race, as we now understand the term, is a conflation of categories of reality and categories of the mind.

    If race is not a category of nature/reality, then I don’t know what is. Your denial of this is absurd.

    Biology is upstream of behavior gives rise to all those so-called “social constructs.” Those contributions of environment/nurture have an origin in nature. The White/European phenotype has expressed itself throughout the world, often in very similar ways as would be expected. Just as the African or Asian phenotypes have as well. Your suggestion that a person’s innate behavior can be overridden by a different religious subscription may be well-meaning, but will not manifest into anything constructive while we’re around or even still alive in the memories of our descendants. The timeline is too long and it’s doubtful that the religions of today will still be around thousands of years from now. Hopefully White people still will be. Africa has never been more Christian and all the Christian Africans in the world will not behave or express themselves like Europeans do.

    3. Regarding Mr. Taylors aversion to openly naming Jews and the harm that some of them are doing, I think it’s quite obvious that he’s aware of Jewish power and seeks a way to get his message out to the masses without losing all ability to do so. This is an unfortunate situation, however, I think it’s clear why this is the case. Others, like yourself, fill the role of naming and pointing out their subversive actions. You’ve even mentioned some of the groups responsible for the attacks on Whites and the development of White racial consciousness, the ADL and SPLC. They aren’t attacking Whites for being Catholic Dr. Jones.

    4. Your suggestion that Whites are Jews by accepting race realism is nonsensical. As I stated above, Whites are simply not being attacked for being Catholics.

    Regarding “Jews becoming White”, this is not something that Whites actively encourage, although the fallacious history of the US being a “melting pot” for the entire world has brainwashed many into thinking this is true and adopting a worldview of colorblindness.

    See here for the shapeshifting nature of many Jews when it comes to masquerading as and denigrating Whites. They’re not pretending to be Catholics, Dr. Jones.
    https://archive.org/details/TheEuropeanManTweetArchive/page/n25/mode/2up

    They become White when it’s convenient to do so, e.g. when attacking us, and they suddenly become a minority to shield themselves from justified criticism, again when it’s convenient to do so. If you flip through that archive, again I think you’ll notice that they aren’t attacking us for being Catholic or masquerading as Catholics.

    The other part of this that I find rather baffling is your willingness, as a bi-racial Irish-German, to submit so readily to what is and will always be a Semitic religion. You seem to be quite wary of Whites becoming Jews but simultaneously have no problem subscribing to what will always be an offshoot of their religion.

    So White’s being Jewish is bad, okay sure, but Whites tethering themselves to a Semitic religion that will always be the child of Judaism is good. You can’t have it both ways. I do think Whites need a religion but it isn’t Christianity, not any more.

    Dr. Jones, thank you for your contributions elsewhere, but you are dead-wrong on your denial of race and it’s importance. Race is upstream of everything that a person is and is presently immutable during a single lifespan.

  10. Hitmarck 说:

    “我的白人同胞”

    仅此一点就可以证明琼斯的观点。

  11. anarchyst 说:

    E. Michael Jones is wrong about race.

    All one has to do is to observe the differences in efficacy of medical drugs and treatments, which are more effective in one race than another. Although this concept is well-known, medical professionals are loathe to admit that these differences are fact.

    This observation also applies to differences in IQ as well as the ability to rationalize and recognize the existence of spatial differences. For example, African black language has no term for proportion. Yes, there are definitions for “up” and “down, “left” and “right”, but there are no definitions for “how much” in each “direction”. Measurements do not exist in African languages. There is no definition for distances, the future, or exploration. Such concepts are alien to the African race.
    There are quantifiable differences in each race and are an indicator of the successes of each race.

    Africans do well in their own African societies, only have to be worried about being food for predators, both of the animal kingdom and their fellow humans. Africans thrive under a “strongman” type of dictatorial structure where “the man at the top” makes all major decisions for the tribe. Individual status is determined by proximity to the “chief”.

    Whites and Asians do better in colder climates where survival is dependent on the ability to plan for the future where group cooperation is necessary for survival.
    Domestication of plants and animals is a large part of the ability of Whites and Asians to survive in harsh climates.

    While EMJ follows church precepts concerning “equality of the races”, the truth is that leaving race out of it, “no one is equal to anyone else”

    • 回复: @mark green
    , @Suncoastcraig
    , @anon
  12. Angharad 说:

    琼斯正在从事与他指责泰勒相同类型的虚假言论。 种族是真实的。 因为DNA是真实的。 最底层的现实。 无论任何人使用什么词诡计,DNA 都是真实的。 生物学是真实的。

    琼斯是天主教徒,而天主教徒只关心让每个人都成为天主教徒。 这意味着天主教会的收入和控制权。 天主教网站上充斥着黑人和布朗人的图片。 他们不关心白人,因为白人是真正的全球少数,而天主教会想要让谢克尔继续滚滚而来。琼斯的天主教是唯一对他真正重要的事情,所以他不应该与任何人辩论关于种族。 他不会关心任何人口的种族,只要他们是天主教徒。

    我确实为他喊出泰勒这个具有颠覆性的欺骗性魔像而鼓掌。 我不明白为什么泰勒的追随者没有看到他的欺诈行为。

    • 巨魔: Hitmarck
    • 回复: @Hibernian
    , @chrimony
  13. Angharad 说:
    @Malcolm X

    Whites MUST demand reparations from negroids for the utter damage, mayhem, and horror they wreak every single day. But I’d be satisfied is every last one was booted OUT. We Whites don’t beed any one else but each other.

  14. Don’t play word games. We all know that “White” is shorthand for “of European descent” and “Black” for African descent. There’s some gray area around the edges, but so what. We’re also aware that these categories have been manipulated for political power. Again, so what. These categories still define biological realities, extended families of peoples.

    • 同意: ziggurat
    • 回复: @mc23
  15. 泰勒和 EMJ 都是巨人。 他们真的是。 这两个男人都为白人而战,并为此付出了巨大的痛苦。

    泰勒非常清楚犹太人具有颠覆性和破坏性……但他计算过,如果他避开 JQ,正常人会倾听。

    EMJ 对种族提出质疑……但公开批评犹太人的颠覆,尤其是在色情和性变态、ME 中的疯狂战争等方面。

    我想也许 EMJ 的宗教信仰,一种普遍的信仰,将他拉向了否认种族的方向。

    犹太人不是白人; 犹太人是反白人的。

    撇开 EMJ 对我们如何变成白人的分析……我们现在是白人。 这是一个已经使用了很长时间的标签。 我可以去面试并坚持说我是爱尔兰人……但胖 HR 女士仍会选中“白人”框。

    • 同意: Hitmarck, ziggurat
    • 回复: @thotmonger
    , @Suncoastcraig
    , @Anon
  16. Trinity 说:

    大多数是白人新教徒建立了美国,该死的都是建立美国的白人新教徒,而且他们都是英国人。

    I have members in my family who are Catholic, but the TRUTH IS THE TRUTH. And I sure don’t have much admiration for the English.

    RACE IS VERY REAL AND GOD INTENDED FOR THE RACES TO STAY SEPARATE. Uh, maybe that is why the races were separated by hundreds if not thousands of miles and oceans for starters. “Race is a fiction?” Sheesh, what is this Jew horseshit 101? “We all bleed red,” and “there are good people of every race, creed and color,” blah, blah, blah……..

    And then we have good ole JT, the guy who won’t touch the Jewish role behind the destruction of America with a 1,000 foot pole.

    Didn’t this guy debate that New England backwoods hippie, Styxhexnhammer once? The dude with specs and some douchebag leather jacket and no shirt?

    The “debate?” No thanks, I think I will switch on some music.

    Cue: Nothing From Nothing by Billy Preston

    • 回复: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Fur baby
  17. @KenH

    当谈到种族以及为什么它是生物学现实时,贾里德泰勒显然赢得了辩论。 E. Michael Jones 只能提供奇怪的解释,解释为什么种族只是一种人为的结构和“心理状态”。 然而,当谈到犹太人的话题时,E. Michael Jones 确实让泰勒陷入了困境,当泰勒承认整体犹太人对美国和西方产生了负面影响时,我感到很惊讶。

    以前,泰勒会告诉我们犹太人是白人,因为他们在他看来是白人。 故事结局。

    本网站上的大多数人都知道,虽然有些犹太人确实看起来像欧洲人,但他们的心理构成使他们对所有非犹太人的事物产生厌恶和无情的敌意,这将使他们永远与欧洲白人以及其他人类区别开来。

    大多是真的。

    种族主要是外表加上文化。 但是,尽管遗传占主导地位,但文化的重要性却不容忽视。

    Secular Jewish activists, as a group, don’t identify with white European civilization & are frequently opposed to it. So, I would say yes and no: most ordinary Jews are white; most self-conscious Jewish activists, journalists, .. are not.

    然后,真正的欧洲白人有一个死亡愿望。 如何解释法伦和他的观众的胡说八道行为——而且他不是犹太人。

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/with-wild-applause-on-the-tonight-show-great-replacement-celebrated-on-jimmy-fallons-show-as-400-u-s-counties-now-majority-non-white/

    With Wild Applause on the Tonight Show: Great Replacement Celebrated on Jimmy Fallon’s Show, as 400 U.S. Counties Now Majority Non-White

    • 同意: TKK
    • 回复: @Angharad
    , @lavoisier
  18. The entry for Human Race in the 1914 edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia describes different races and their unity.
    https://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=9808

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  19. @Jack McArthur

    I am willing to acknowledge that God has love for all of mankind.

    However, when you discover what organized jewry has done in terms of weaponizing a rainbow coalition of all the races against white people to destroy Christendom……you have to become a race realist to SAVE Christendom.

    Marxism (jewish internationalism) is dedicated to the destruction of Christianity, family, nation, and all forms of human unity…..but this is very difficult to explain to a grug level Christian who suffers from terminal jewbrain.

    This always goes back to the obvious problem of the naive, gullible, and trusting nature of whites that function under a Christian value system that has been corrupted by jewish subversion and race denial.

  20. E. Michael Jones: “So what do we mean when we say that race is “real”? We mean that ethnicity has always been a category of reality. We also mean that physical characteristics are real and that they differ depending on what part of the planet you come from. The shape of your nose and the color of your skin are categories of reality. The virtues or vices associated with them, however, are categories of the mind, which get applied for political reasons.”

    I’ve found both EMJ and Taylor are slippery characters, abundant sources of misinformation. Taylor is certainly not above twisting or even inventing facts if he thinks it will help his arguments (or increase donations), and here EMJ does the same thing. Either deliberately or from sheer ignorance, he’s misstating the racist case. Biological racists argue that human behavior, like any animal behavior, is substantially influenced by the genetics of race. EMJ here, writing that the “virtues and vices” associated with race are categories of the mind, is implying that they are not properties of races themselves, i.e., not “real”; or in other words, that race doesn’t play any role in determining behavior. While this accords perfectly with a Christian worldview, it’s at variance with reality.

    Also, let’s note that refuting Taylor’s rather hazy conception of race is obviously not the same thing as proving race is a fiction. That’s another bit of sophistry in which EMJ here is indulging.

    The sad truth is that both of these guys are second-rate intellects, and that’s probably being too generous. But then, “white nationalists” get the intellectuals they deserve. EMJ’s 4600 words can be summed up in just 12: “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.”

    • 同意: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
    , @jamie b.
    , @Hgfbk83
  21. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    泰勒和 EMJ 是一流的知识分子,也是一流的人类。

    两人都写了很棒的书,右边的每个人都应该阅读。 两人都以自己的方式为白人奋斗了一生的大部分时间。

    作为白人倡导者公开需要巨大的勇气,因为这会让他们背上目标,而且肯定会给他们的家人和朋友带来麻烦。

    此外,泰勒和琼斯作为公众演讲者都非常有效,他们为这场运动增添了一定的吸引力。

    无论如何,泰勒和琼斯都是真诚的活动家,他们尽最大努力帮助我们的事业。

    我看不出贬低那些既真诚又有效的白人拥护者会有什么好处。

    而且……如果你认为他们很烂……那么写你自己的书,建立你自己的亲白人网站……用你的才华让我们眼花缭乱。

    • 同意: Hitmarck, St-Germain
    • 谢谢: Nancy
    • 回复: @Alexandros
  22. @Vergissmeinnicht

    jim goad is a scared “white” boy who went to jail for felonious cocksucking. there he got roughed up by the blackies. and you know what they do to scared white boys in jail, right? jim goad has a chip off his ass errrrr shoulder, about those darkies. he also only hides behind other weak men, such as the gay racist anti-christian author of counter currents. jim goad is also incredibly intellectually dishonest, as he couldn’t wait to…uhhhh…hop on….with the homosexual liar greg johnson just to bash, as he put it, a “senile” old man. what a “white” racial warrior jim is hahah! it’s always 4v1 with jim goad as he hides behind other retarded keyboard racist gay warriors, just like the kneegrows he so much hates (the 4v1 part; jim is an honorable “white” man). jim would never fight 1v1. jim goad is such a small man it is hilarious. gay white racists who hate jesus. lmao.

    • 哈哈: AndrewR
    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  23. Children notice race several years before adults want to talk about it

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200827150954.htm

    Forensic anthropology and the concept of race: If races don’t exist, why are forensic anthropologists so good at identifying them?

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0277953692900866

    有人知道泰勒的股权平等幻灯片的链接吗?

    White is a category of the mind somewhere between 可悲混蛋.

    That’s a pretty good one.

    • 同意: Bernie
    • 回复: @Chensley
  24. Chensley 说:
    @Morton's toes

    有人知道泰勒的股权平等幻灯片的链接吗?

    这个? 从 23 分钟?

    也在这里

    https://www.amren.com/features/2021/08/equity-is-entropy/

    • 回复: @Hitmarck
    , @jamie b.
    , @Anon
  25. @fray juan crespi

    Jim Goad is funny af.

    A great writer.

    “The Redneck Manifesto” was one of my first redpill books and I remember laughing outloud many times reading that book.

    I’ve seen him interviewed many times and he ALWAYS delivers humorous and thought provoking material.

    And….he is VERY precise in his work. We corresponded on Twitter many years ago regarding the exact percentage of young blacks, 15 to 30, doing most of the violent crime. I said it was 2% of the black population….he corrected me, said it was 4% and he’d just completed research on an article.

    Like I said before…..any white man that speaks out on behalf of white people deserves a bit of respect.

    • 回复: @Nancy
  26. Rambam 说:

    Just be aware that fiction can get you killed if you end up in the wrong neighborhood.
    沙洛姆。

    • 回复: @anon
  27. thotmonger 说:

    格林布拉特先生是白人吗? Barbara Lerner Spectre 是白色的吗? 如果答案是肯定的,那么当前的情况就变得完全不可理解,因为欧洲武器化移民和互联网审查的主要推动者突然与他们试图审查和摧毁的人同在一个团队。 这没有意义。

    EMJ 在这里忘记了现实和虚构之间的区别是现实没有意义。 尽管如此,他还是在沙滩上划了一条清晰的线。 如果泰勒先生拒绝直接回答,他将失去很多可信度。 他最终会向犹太势力说出一点真相吗?

    https://www.commentary.org/articles/liel-leibovitz/jews-are-not-white/

  28. thotmonger 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    琼斯先生坚称种族无关紧要,而泰勒先生则避免提及犹太人的权力/犯罪。

    场景:公元 900 年,一名受伤的男子走近匈牙利的某个村庄。

    “停止! 说出你的目的!”
    “我们给酋长带来消息。 奴隶贩子又来抢劫了! 三个村庄被烧毁。 许多人被杀。”
    村民之间议论纷纷。
    “他们抓了多少人?!”
    “至少一百个女孩。 许多年轻小伙子也......都被出售,他们的厄运是白金。”
    一名妇女尖叫道:“犹太人会在他们被装载到伊斯兰国的船上之前将他们阉割!”
    更响亮的低语。 也发出呻吟。
    “安静!” 长官吼道。 他戴着领结的新助手在他耳边低语。 他继续说:“拿起这个橄榄枝。 交给掠夺者。 很好地告诉他们,我们的孩子不是白人,不管这意味着什么,也不是黄金。 一旦他们明白了这一点,他们肯定会停止这种胡说八道。 继续。”

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  29. Anon[254]• 免责声明 说:

    The jist of the argument is that good whites identify as being “good” because they never, ever, identify as being “white”.

    https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/nyt-midwit-mara-gay-affirmative-action-face-of-americas-anti-white-cultural-revolution/

  30. Hibernian 说:
    @Angharad

    …Catholics ONLY care about making everyone into a Catholic.

    List of people whom I’d rather not see convert to Catholicism:

    希拉里·克林顿

    安格拉·默克尔

    比尔·克林顿

    查克·舒默

    等等。

    • 回复: @Hitmarck
  31. @thotmonger

    虽然我不同意琼斯关于种族的看法……但他在其他领域也做了出色的工作。 他对我们如何成为白人而不是爱尔兰人、英国人或意大利人的分析非常有道理。

    泰勒知道犹太人的影响,但计算出它对许多人来说太热了。 他可能是对的。 无论如何,他提供了一种亲白人的立场,这可能更容易让普通人接受,因为他专注于黑人犯罪等。

    作为一般规则,我为白人倡导者辩护,因为他们代表我们承担了巨大的个人风险。 我唯一不会为之辩护的人是马特·海姆巴赫 (Matt Heimbach)。

    考虑到你们中的一些人向琼斯和泰勒扔石头……犹太人必须认为这些人很有效,否则他们就不会成为审查的目标。 我的立场是它们都非常有效。

    如果您正在寻找白人的完美拥护者……您将永远找不到这样的人。 如果你认为你可以做得更好,那就去做吧。

    我认为人们不知道在公共领域成为亲白人有多困难。 Lana 和 Henrick (Redice) 谈到了他们所面临的一些问题。 迈克·伊诺克 (Mike Enoch) 遭到毒打、失去工作和妻子后,他的生活破碎了。 (当然,迫害只会让人更加坚定)
    大卫杜克不仅被社交媒体开除,被妖魔化多年,而且最近他被自己的家庭医生拒绝了。
    尼克富恩特斯在禁飞名单上,政府从他的银行账户中偷走了 XNUMX 万美元。
    凯文·麦克唐纳 (Kevin Macdonald) 被他的大学拒之门外,被迫提前退休。

    这些人做出重大牺牲,是因为他们想拯救我们的人民免遭毁灭。 我们至少能做的就是向他们表示一点尊重。

    • 同意: Katrinka, St-Germain, Bill, Nancy, ziggurat
    • 回复: @ziggurat
  32. anon[254]• 免责声明 说:
    @Rambam

    I had my tire shot out whilst driving while white through the wrong part of my old neighborhood. Surprisingly, they didn’t bother asking if I was catholic or not.

    fiction can get you killed if you end up in the wrong neighborhood

  33. Possibly the most interesting take on the subject I’ve read so far.
    No surprise here that whomever is speaking on behalf of wn is prolly just another grifter selling us out.
    It seems to me that the people with the most to offer want nothing to do with wn and i can’t say i blame them.
    When was it not every man for himself?
    Survival of the fittest? I guess Stacy Abrams is the future.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  34. Evgenis 说:

    Jews are White. I mean Natalie Portman and Jerry Seinfeld are not White?

    But they are NOT European. They have hostility to the survival of of Ethnic Europeans.

  35. Panadechi 说:

    The term race is already very politicized, discredited and manipulated, due to people like Franz Boas (Jewish anthropologist who said that races did not exist), in opposition to Charles Darwin. So the most appropriate term would be the one associated with the theory of evolution. “Different Evolutionary Lines between species and subspecies”. Therefore the white, black or Asian race are different evolutionary lines that have diverged or differentiated from each other. Evolution is divergent but the Jew wants to transform it into convergent, to weaken or exterminate the whites.

  36. @Angharad

    The best reparation would be repatriation.

    • 同意: Angharad
    • 回复: @ziggurat
  37. mark green 说:
    @anarchyst

    Race realists such as Taylor (and myself) believe that there are significant behavioral, intellectual, and physical differences between various human groups. This common-sense view produced the concept of ‘race’.

    Up until a century ago, the belief in innate racial differences was a commonly-held view that was embrace by most of humanity; even by the vast majority of academics and intellectuals.

    ‘Race’ came from the undeniable fact that numerous human populations have evolved separately from one another. This eons-long separation produced evolutionary differences. They were also easy to see. Still are.

    Genetics explain why ‘race’ is a viable construct. Evolutionary pressures have produced differences in human 和人 基因型。

    Racial distinctions are logical. They remind us of why dog breeds are commonly (and appropriately) distinguished from one another. The shoe fits. A Labrador is not a pit bull. Similarly, a Zulu is not Japanese.

    By contrast, ‘nationhood’ (and citizenship) can be changed overnight. But race endures. The Jews understand this. Common-sense distinctions of this kind explains why Jews fight for 他们的人 (race) no matter where they (Jews) happen to live. After all, borders and nations come and go rapidly. Not genes.

    Whites however are scolded for thinking that way. European-derived peoples are no longer allowed to notice enduring human differences. Our peoplehood is also not supposed to matter. Yet it does to others.

    Our enemies accuse us of ‘racism’ for noticing and comprehending these enduring facts.

    For example, African black language has no term for proportion. Yes, there are definitions for “up” and “down, “left” and “right”, but there are no definitions for “how much” in each “direction”. Measurements do not exist in African languages. There is no definition for distances, the future, or exploration. Such concepts are alien to the African race.

    Yes, race exists. It’s an expression of nature and evolution. Race explains why children tend to naturally self-segregate along racial lines. CRT links this near-universal orientation to toxic white ‘racism’. That however is not a satisfactory explanation. Far from it.

    Below is a brilliant meditation on racial differences written by a man who spent decades in Africa.

    https://menghublog.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners-gedaliah-braun/

  38. GazaPlanet 说:

    It is pure fantasy that the major races were not recognized as distinct types throughout history. This thing advanced by EMJ is not a Catholic idea, either. 100 years ago, would anyone advance such a ludicrous position? Even 50 years ago, you’d be hard-pressed to find this sort of ridiculous talk. The idea that Europeans do not or did not recognize themselves as “white” (white being just a name for a clearly recognizable group of people, a reference to their skin tone compared to other groups, but not at all defined merely by that skin tone) of the until they came to America is of course a commonly spread lie that politically correct people will spread to signal their submission and support for the power structure. But it’s just that, a conscious lie. Race is a 100% biological reality that slaps you directly in the fact, especially little children, especially babies. There was never a time when different races came into contact and men said “the genetic differences between your people and my people are just an arbitrary division of the mind.” The absurdity of speciously claiming that because a collective group did not meet another group they did not think of belonging to their own group until they met the separate group is not only false as a matter of simple fact (certainly Europeans were aware of Christendom, Moors, the Indies, Cathay, etc, and were aware of racial differences) it is also logically absurd, the idea that you cannot know that nations around you are related to yours until you cross the ocean and find very alien peoples is just a patent absurdity on its face, to advance such an idea is sophistry, to accept such an idea is a sign of crippled cognitive capacity. The idea that because nations exist that race does not exist is just an in your face, aggressive lie that NO ONE would have dared advance before the dawn of political correctness. Your ancestors would never have bought it, including your medieval ancestors who supposedly didn’t know of other races existing! It is just shameless in the extreme and is a mark of a mind fractured and infiltrated with degenerate leftist rot. And it is rot that cannot be tolerated in polite society. When Leftist degenerate pseudo-intellectuals speak of “whiteness” is is simply a flagrant insult, a totalitarian assault on reality, related to the pretense that sex does not exist. It is a similar type of “reasoning.” – the boastful adherence to logical falsehood.

    Of course, this heuristic test is very simple. If they wouldn’t have bought it 100 years ago, or 500 years ago, or 1000 years ago, or 2000 years ago or 2500 years ago, THEY’RE RIGHT, AND YOU’RE WRONG. The same thing goes for anyone who accepts the post-conciliar sect, its flagrant sacrilege, blasphemies and heresies.

  39. Reg Cæsar 说:
    @Trinity

    大多数是白人新教徒建立了美国,该死的都是建立美国的白人新教徒,而且他们都是英国人。

    贵格会建造了宾夕法尼亚州和新泽西州的大部分地区。 天主教徒建造了马里兰州和路易斯安那州。 大多数创始人几乎都不是基督徒。

    作为新教徒的殖民者,以各种不同的方式,既不认识彩虹旗,也不认识今天的驯蛇者。

    Englishmen were a minority in Pennsylvania and New York for many years. And let’s not even mention the mountain folk…

    你知道天主教徒,特别是僧侣还发明了什么吗? 微小的. 你应该更多地利用它们。

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Joodie
  40. Anon[833]• 免责声明 说:

    If “race” is a tenuous philosophical concept, to speak of “European stock,” as opposed to Middle Eastern, North African or Central Asian origins (additional applicants to “Whiteness”) would be an objective reality, if one cared enough to ferret out his or her genealogy, as can realistically be done these days through computer searches and DNA testing. For example, I know that my forebears have inhabited the coasts of the Baltic and North Seas since at least the 1600’s. Know their names, villages and even parishes they were born into and buried from.

    The “Jews” have traditionally been rooted amongst the three aforementioned “outside” groups composing either the Sephardic (NA), Ashkenazi (CA) or Palestinian (ME) branches of Judaism. They may be “white” but they are not European stock, though I would never discriminate against them for that, and if they ever lived in Europe they were “European” in that sense, which, like their gene pool, is an additional objective fact or not.

    Practically speaking, the “White race” has pretty much become a synonym for “European” irrespective of religion–though historically religious conflicts were even much bigger deals in Europe than in the US, especially when one tosses in Orthodoxy as an additional major faction. I would venture to say most Americans care not a hoot if a white-looking person can trace his ancestry to this or that European kingdom, duchy, republik or empire. If he or she looks the part, we assume they are “White” and “European.”

    Heck, even the Iranians, Armenians, Northern Indians and Afghans are pale skinned and have “Caucasian” facial features–they are from the Indo-Iranian branch of Indo-European language centers. All assimilate well in the USA, often take Anglo names, intermarry and simply merge into the gene pool within just a few generations. Catholic Arabs from Lebanon, Syria and Iraq commonly integrated into the Mediterranean clans of Italy and Albania who later migrated to the US. Many of those folks are as “industrious” and socially mobile as the Jews. Just answer this: of what ethnic group is your family physician? Hardly ever a Marcus Wellby WASP any longer.

  41. jamie b. 说:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Taylor is certainly not above twisting or even inventing facts if he thinks it will help his arguments…

    你能举个例子吗?

  42. jamie b. 说:
    @Chensley

    These don’t show the two little men standing on the big man.

    • 回复: @Morton's toes
  43. klesko 说:

    is everything he writes this pedantic? i couldn’t get through half of the article

    • 回复: @gotmituns
  44. gotmituns 说:
    @Priss Factor

    How do you explain BAMMAMA factor or blacks-are-more-muscular-and-more-aggressive? That accounts for black pathology and criminality in the West. It’s why blacks usually attack and beat up weaker/slower/softer whites.
    ----------------------------------
    Sir, I’ve lived extremely physical life. In that time (I’m old now), I’ve watched blacks etempt to do what I and many other White men (Some American Indians as well) were doing. Except in a very few cases, blacks fell far short of what a White an could do, physically speaking. In that there was a lot of mental activity required to do the work I did as well as what we called “heart,” that left the blacks completely on the outside looking in. The idea of White physical inferiority is a complete a fiction. The TV and all other sources of propaganda and brainwashing are portraying blacks as something they’re not – physically stronger. Yes, they look stronger, but that is far from the case. What they are though is completely slaves to their emotions (very much like women). They easily become hysterical and lose all control over themselves. Of course, their overall low IQ doesn’t help matters much. Here they are in this high tech society without any marketable skills so what does it matter what they do, or don’t do? Why not burn and pillage. There’s really no way of punishing them.

  45. @Priss Factor

    It might be interesting to know what interesting conclusions you might draw if you studied Africa in relevant ways and were for example to take into account that there is indeed some Neanderthal DNA in Africans, that Africa has greater human genetic diversity than the whole of the rest of the world put together – including cast differences in some West African tribal groups, etc.

  46. @KenH

    1962年牙买加获得独立后,谋杀率是每3.9万居民100,000起,是世界上最低的谋杀率之一。 2005年,牙买加发生了1,674起谋杀案,谋杀率是每58万人中100,000起。 那一年,牙买加的谋杀率是世界上最高的。

    Jamaicans were blacks then as they’re blacks today. What’s murder rate got anything to do with it?

    • 回复: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @KenH
  47. @Malcolm X

    The credibility of everything you have to say is immediately undermined by your ignorant and careless tossing in of Australia in your first sentence. Total rubbish. Australia has an almost negligible black population (basically a small inoculating dose of refugees from South Sudan in the early 2000s). Of the 2 or 3 per cent who claim the advantages of being Aboriginal the striking fact is that most don’t appear black because the Aboriginal genes for skin and hair colour aren’t dominant. True, some very black Aborigines live in the top third of Australia but are so rarely seen by most Australians that they play no part informing Australians’ identities.

    • 回复: @JM
  48. geokat62 说:

    我对辩论的两位参与者提出异议。

    E 迈克尔琼斯在犹太人是白人的问题上呼吁贾里德泰勒是正确的。 尽管他们在生物学上可能是白人,但犹太人自己并不认为他们是白人。 那是因为种族差异在犹太教中没有意义。 犹太教的最大区别是犹太人和戈伊之间的区别。 如果goy 是白色的、黄色的、红色的、黑色的、棕色的或紫色的,他们就无所谓了。 这是犹太人反对世界其他地方,时期。

    也就是说,Jarod Taylor 在种族问题上呼吁 E Michael Jones 是正确的。 琼斯希望降低种族的重要性,并更加强调种族。 他辩称种族差异“无关紧要”,并使用非法性问题来证明他的观点。 他为什么不选择智力呢? 因为虽然非婚生率的差异在很大程度上确实是文化差异,但智力差异不是。 在过去的几十年里,政府花费了数十亿美元试图缩小黑人和白人之间的成绩差距,但收效甚微。

    琼斯还喜欢参考他的三重熔炉 (TMP) 理论。 1965 年,犹太至上主义组织通过哈特-塞勒打开闸门,印度教徒和穆斯林涌入全国,他必须很快将这一理论升级为五重熔炉 (QMP)。

    最后,关于“类别”白人不如“类别”种族重要。 请解释为什么美国第一届国会在 1790 年通过了《入籍法》,授予“品行良好的白人男性”公民身份,而不是引用西北欧的每个种族?

    • 回复: @White Elephant
  49. drogger 说:

    EMJ is a fiction. He doesn’t exist. But there is an idea of EMJ. You can shake his hand and feel muscle and bone. But he’s not really there.

  50. Hitmarck 说:
    @Hibernian

    两个黄蜂编程

    防白
    反天主教的

    都无能为力,太晚了,我们有更重要的事情要关心

    • 回复: @Angharad
  51. Ruckus 说:
    @Cutler

    But it makes sense given he’s an Irish Catholic. His fee-fees are blinding him.

    • 回复: @HenryB
  52. EMJ 所支持的关于种族的废话直接源于圣经中关于种族的疯狂教义,也就是说,这个世界上的所有种族都源于三兄弟——Shem、Ham 和 Japeth。 所以,当然,EMJ 会采取没有任何种族的立场,因为我们都来自同一个祖先。 疯狂。

    我记得当 EMJ 在他的书中公开反对犹太人时,当他不断宣传罗马天主教会的教义(这是犹太人渗透的 RCC)时,很明显要对他们做些什么(释义) “犹太人不能受到伤害,但反过来他们也不能干涉基督徒的生活方式”。
    我们看到 RCC 坚持这一点,部分是这样。 他们竭尽全力,满足了公会的所有愿望,在大屠杀宗教面前顶礼膜拜,却没有做任何事情来阻止犹太人在西方文明中的横冲直撞和基督教国家的毁灭。 结论 – RCC 受到犹太人的严重控制。

    在 EMJ 中,让我迷失的是当他说一名来自尼日利亚的黑人,代表波兰参加拳击比赛时,实际上是波兰人,因为他是天主教徒,会说波兰语。 是的,无论血统如何,属于任何国家所需的两件事是皈依天主教并能够说该国家的语言。 无非是绝对的疯狂。

    我将传递 EMJ 关于种族和国籍的更多废话。

  53. gotmituns 说:
    @klesko

    Yep, when a writer goes on like that, he shows he’s full of sh*t.

  54. In the end, applying stringent philosophical criteria, you cannot prove that anything is not fiction. This may be called idealism, or solipsism, or Zen, or the notion that our world is a simulation, or whatever. All irrefutable… and absolutely meaningless outside academia. This is the world we live in; for all intents and purposes it must be considered as real. The difference between a piece of steel and a piece of styrofoam is not a matter of philosophy.

  55. AndrewR 说:
    @J. Jonah Jameson

    Perhaps Taylor secretly agrees with mainstream WNs about the JQ but he thinks it’s wise to fool Jews into thinking that not all WNs detest Jews.

    这将是最讨人喜欢的可能性

    • 回复: @G J T
  56. megabar 说:

    There are some bad arguments here. Consider that:

    1. Socially constructed categories arise depending on the context. The fact that they change does not necessarily mean that there is no underlying truth, but that the context has changed. If all you know are Europeans, than you’ll focus on European differences. When you mean Asians and Africans, the true, immutable differences between the various Europeans become less important compared to the larger real, immutable differences between Europeans and them.

    2. Immutable characteristics do not create fixed outcomes. All traits vary in their expression by environment. As an example, if the crime rate for each race changes as the environment changes, that does not mean the crime rate for the races will be equal in any environment.

    3. Arguments that boil down to “members of group X are evil” are doomed to fail in the long run. Few people like to hate on a person merely because of group membership, and in the modern global world it is increasingly difficult to be definitive about what a person is. Furthermore, bad and subversive behavior exists in all groups of people. It is better to focus on how to create structures that aggressively find and punish (and thus weed out) antisocial, degenerate, and unproductive traits. Yes, I understand this is very difficult, because these behaviors are almost always hidden with a more appealing veneer.

    For #3, it’s important to realize that while different groups of people have different trait distributions, all groups of people have all of these traits. If you cultivate bad traits in any people, you will get more of them. Therefore, focusing on the cultivation is more important in the long run than anything else.

  57. AndrewR 说:
    @Richard B

    People outside of the West generally don’t scapegoat white people. Many quite admire and look up to us, and others consider themselves to be white even if few Americans would consider them white (specifically Persians, and Arabs to a lesser extent).

    • 同意: Richard B
    • 回复: @Richard B
  58. @geokat62

    “E Michael Jones 在犹太人是白人的问题上呼吁 Jared Taylor 是正确的。 尽管他们在生物学上可能是白人,但犹太人自己并不认为他们是白人。 那是因为种族差异在犹太教中没有意义。 犹太教的最大区别是犹太人和戈伊之间的区别。 如果goy 是白色的、黄色的、红色的、黑色的、棕色的或紫色的,他们就无所谓了。 这是犹太人反对世界其他地方,时期。”

    这显示了犹太人的疯狂。

    关于犹太人的底线很简单——他们不是一个国家,从来都不是。 “原始”犹太人来自以色列人和迦南人的混合。 然后我们进入 8 世纪,Bulan 国王将他的突厥-蒙古混血的人转变为崇拜塔木德教。 从那时起,大多数犹太人不再是“种族”犹太人,而是任何想成为其中一员的人。
    我们被告知犹太人的血统来自母亲,但如果母亲是新近皈依犹太教的基督教徒,那与犹大和可萨利亚无关怎么办? 如果她是一个金发蓝眼睛的瑞典居民呢? 她的孩子将被归类为犹太人,因为他们的母亲没有犹太血统,皈依了犹太教。 “犹太人”的整个概念至少可以说是可笑的。

    话虽如此,但发生的事情是犹太银行家渗透到西方君主制并在其中播种了他们的种子,创造了一个非常强大的犹太/戈伊姆家族统治着戈伊姆。 例如,人们认为维多利亚女王是罗斯柴尔德家族的成员。 至少不会让我感到惊讶。

    • 回复: @Johnny Johnny
  59. AndrewR 说:
    @Malcolm X

    There was a case for reparations in the past but, during the last 55 years or so, blacks have more than whittled that debt down to nothing. I would argue that all the crime and subsequent property value devaluation – as well as handouts like affirmative action, welfare, and make-work government sinecures – over the last half century means that blacks presently owe a debt to the rest of Americans. You and other black nationalists might point fingers towards whites or even Jews on this one, and you might make some valid points, but unless you at least admit that you are owed less than your grandparents were owed at your age, we cannot have a constructive dialogue. Far too few of you have spoken out against the worse ills. Maybe we can compromise by giving more compensation to people who have a proven track record of speaking out against Democrat polichave . But as a black nationalist you have to own all the behavior of your people.

    • 同意: bomag
    • 回复: @G. Poulin
  60. Dr. Jones is an interesting, of prolix, writer but he is wrong about race and The Jew Thing is so played…

    这是圣经中种族的链接

    http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?q=race&b=drb

    • 回复: @Anon
  61. @Cutler

    His position on race bonkers and has no basis in reality, Bizarre.

    他相信, fanatically believes, in an invisible Jewish sky fairy who loves, loves, loves him more than 什么.

    And yet we are supposed to be surprised that he can’t tell the difference between a Bantu and a Blonde.

    Two pathetic deluded boomers arguing about whether hills exist or are a social construct..

  62. It will be interesting to see when the first black Jews are elected to the Knesset and selected for the Israeli cabinet. It will be interesting to see when rabbis around the world started promoting more diversity within Judaism. It is time that Judaism opens up a bit and welcomes all into the fold–believers in Y***H but still waiting for a suitable Messiah.

  63. HenryB 说:

    他们在南本德印第安纳州没有闰年吗?

    • 回复: @White Elephant
  64. HT 说:

    在索马里或海地呆一年(如果你能活那么久),然后在瑞士或挪威呆一年,然后告诉我种族只是虚构的。

    • 回复: @White Elephant
  65. bomag 说:
    @Malcolm X

    美国在整合黑人方面做出了巨大努力,但结果不一。

    商誉被不可改变的差异所削弱。

    Why keep trying harder for something that won’t happen?

  66. Anon[360]• 免责声明 说:

    “Are Jews white?” isn’t the devastating kill shot that EMJ and others think it is.

    In an interview with Jared Taylor, CNN’s Fareed Zacharia asked “Who are whites?”, and Taylor responded that whites are people whose ancestors lived in Europe 500 years ago. I love that answer, because it’s so simple and it’s obviously true. It fits, more or less, with the genetic analysis and with the physical traits that any eight-year-old can observe. It cuts through the BS and the attempts to deconstruct whiteness.

    A race is basically a really big extended family, and it’s easier to understand when you think about it using analogies to family life. Many families have dysfunctional members whose actions harm their relatives and weaken the family overall. Their relatives are pained by their behavior and try to help them change, sometimes successfully and sometimes not. In severe cases, the wisest option is simply to keep them away so that the rest of the family can function.

    Jews are very disproportionately likely to fall within the destructive category of white people, and their actions often harm white people as a group. Not only Jews: a host of gentile white leftists are defiantly waving BLM flags and cheering for their own demise. Jewish intellectual movements play a role in that behavior, but there’s also a self-destructive impulse within many white gentiles: a fanatical altruism that appears in other contexts. You can see it clearly when you read about the abolitionists, for example.

    Implicit in the “Are Jews white” question is the premise that the family is an illegitimate category if certain family member are hostile to the rest. But that is false. You can still care about the family even if the behavior of certain of its members need to be suppressed.

    • 回复: @anon
  67. HenryB 说:
    @Ruckus

    Jones has yet to explain how he acquired a Welsh surname. His stated ‘ethnicity’ may be as false as his reasoning.

    • 回复: @Hibernian
  68. saggy 说: • 您的网站

    EMJ ‘believes’ the complete idiocy of Christianity and he is an active holohoax promoter and he argues that race is a fiction.

    And yet, we know that EMJ is intelligent, incredibly learned and industrious, and no doubt sincere. Conclusion – we have no idea how the mind works, we think it’s ‘logical’ and ‘reality based’, but .. there are many indications to the contrary.

  69. Magic Dirt 说:

    “White” as a political category has run its course. We need a new identity.

    • 回复: @ProudBLM
  70. @anarchyst

    If someone stood up at the biker rally and yelled “ice cube tray”, everybody would still turn around to see who the asshole was who was yelling.

    • 同意: Tony massey
  71. conatus 说:

    美国政府要求我们严格地(SAT 词)将自己硬塞进种族类别。如果他们真的希望我们都能相处融洽,美国政府会废除种族类别,但他们反而鼓励它。美国政府通过坚持我们成为种族的一部分来创建种族.

    人口普查规定:“1997 年,OMB 发布了一份联邦公报通知,内容涉及联邦种族和民族数据分类标准的修订。[8] OMB 制定了种族和民族标准,以便“在整个联邦政府中提供关于种族和民族的一致数据。 数据标准的发展在很大程度上源于执行民权法的新责任。” 维基'种族和民族。

    在美国政府眼中,谁仅仅因为肤色就属于“社会弱势群体”呢?
    美国联邦法规
    § 124.103 谁在社会上处于不利地位?(a) 一般。 社会弱势个人是那些在美国社会中由于他们作为群体成员的身份而不受种族或民族偏见或文化偏见影响的人,而不考虑他们的个人素质。 社会劣势必须源于他们无法控制的情况。(b) 指定群体的成员。 (1) 有一个可反驳的假设认为以下个人处于社会不利地位: 美国黑人; 西班牙裔美国人; 美洲原住民(阿拉斯加原住民、夏威夷原住民或联邦或州承认的印第安部落的注册成员); 亚太裔美国人(来自缅甸、泰国、马来西亚、印度尼西亚、新加坡、文莱、日本、中国(包括香港)、台湾、老挝、柬埔寨(柬埔寨)、越南、韩国、菲律宾、美国托管领土的人)太平洋岛屿(帕劳共和国)、马绍尔群岛共和国、密克罗尼西亚联邦、北马里亚纳群岛联邦、关岛、萨摩亚、澳门、斐济、汤加、基里巴斯、图瓦卢或瑙鲁); 次大陆亚裔美国人(来自印度、巴基斯坦、孟加拉国、斯里兰卡、不丹、马尔代夫群岛或尼泊尔的人); 以及 SBA 根据本节 (d) 段规定的程序不时指定的其他团体的成员。 出生在一个国家本身并不足以使出生国成为个人的原籍国,以便被包括在指定的群体中。
    美国政府要求种族,庆祝种族并鼓励我们以种族的方式思考以保持我们之间的分歧。“多样性是我们的力量!!”
    问南斯拉夫这个问题,对他们来说效果如何?
    问捷克斯洛伐克。 同上

  72. @Robert Dolan

    Jared 已经脱离了 Twitter、YouTube、PayPal 和地球上所有其他支付平台的平台。 他认为这一切的幕后黑手是谁? 黑人?

    • 哈哈: mark green
  73. I think Jones’ beef with “whiteness” is that rallying behind that banner is 1. racist and 2. a wedge issue that fragments the natural rainbow coalition that should be supporting his proposed Anti-Jew Party.

    I completely agree with Jones and wish him every success.

  74. TGD 说:

    EMJ 以简单或清晰的陈述开始他的著作,然后以毫无意义的哲学旁白和似是而非的论据出轨。 这就是 EMJ 失去我的地方,我怀疑大多数其他读者。

    EMJ 在他漫无目的的文章中提到了立陶宛人和 John J. McCloy。 根据记录,立陶宛人是整个纳粹占领的欧洲中最热情的犹太人杀手。 他们杀害了至少 200,000 名犹太邻居,纳粹允许他们没收犹太人的财产。 我敢肯定,当 EMJ 想到立陶宛时,他的脸上会浮现出笑容。

    有一半德国血统的约翰·麦克洛伊说服艾森豪威尔总统大赦几乎所有被监禁的纳粹战犯。 被赦免的人包括约阿希姆·派珀 (Joachim Piper),他是 120 年在马尔梅迪下令谋杀 1944 名美国战俘的党卫军军官和阿尔弗里德·克虏伯 (Alfried Krupp)。 克虏伯的军备工厂在最可怕的条件下使用了数十万欧洲奴隶劳工。 数千人因生病或虚弱而无法工作而死亡或被杀。 克虏伯不仅被释放,而且他的所有财产都归还给他,现在用马歇尔计划的资金重建。 Wunderbar 琼斯先生!

    • 回复: @ivan
  75. @HenryB

    你确定这不是'Round the Bend' 印第安纳州吗?

    • 回复: @HenryB
  76. @HT

    问题是 EMJ 会将差异归结为“文化”而不是种族。 他会宣传你可以从海地和索马里带走黑人并将他们融入瑞士和挪威,通过皈依天主教并学习说瑞士/挪威语,他们现在将成为瑞士/挪威语。
    这就是EMJ的疯狂。

    有趣的是,我在伦敦生活了近 20 年(谢天谢地没有更多了),我准确地观察了 Wind Rush 后裔的情况,他们生活在一块土地上,而不是他们自己的种族。 几乎没有任何整合,而且最近 BLM 的胡说八道,他们都在尽最大努力重新命名街道和建筑物,证明对他们的文化来说是殖民化,这当然不是英国文化。

    • 回复: @HT
  77. Richard B 说:
    @AndrewR

    People outside of the West generally don’t scapegoat white people. Many quite admire and look up to us, and others consider themselves to be white even if few Americans would consider them white (specifically Persians, and Arabs to a lesser extent).

    That’s true. And it’s certainly been my experience Andrew.

    But, the two most powerful groups in the world today 犹太至上公司。 和 中共, who are pretty much dividing up the world between them, are both on the same page in using their considerable power to prohibit positive white identity in any way, shape, or form. Though, naturally, they might go about it in different ways.

    And they’re doing it while at the same time, of course, reserving their right to maintain and promote positive racial identity themselves. In any event, this is what I meant by the term Global Scapegoat. I hardly need to tell you that evidence of this is everywhere, whether or not others see whites in a more positive and even admiring light. I also don’t need to tell you that of the two JSI is by far the worse offender.

    • 回复: @AndrewR
  78. Mike Tre 说:

    This “debate” is useless, self serving intellectual masturbation.

    Race is not a social construct, society is a racial construct.

    • 同意: Bernie
    • 谢谢: Charles
    • 回复: @Charles
  79. Dumbo 说:

    Race is just a form of classification of human beings. They could be classified in another way. Someone long ago classified the main races as White (Caucasian), Black (African), Mongoloid (Asian), Amerindian and Australasian (Aborigine). It made sense, as they are visibly different.

    Unfortunately, Blacks can breed with Whites, so they are not separate species. They are all homo sapiens. But they are also not exactly the same. So races is a useful concept. (Perhaps the mixture with neanderthals and denisovans explain? or perhaps, not).

    But race can be too broad a category. “Whites” can englobe a lot of people that have little in common (including, for some, Arabs and Jews), and Blacks the same (from Pygmies to Zulu).

    And this classification of course does not take into account other groups, such as groups like the mestizos, who are themselves a mixture more than a specific race.

    But, if the original races are the result of mixtures (neanderthal, denisovans, other “ghost” populations), then we are all mixtures in some way or another. The concept of “pure race” is a chimera, a Platonic ideal.

    So I agree that the concept of ethnicity is more useful. Ethnicity is both biological and cultural. And it is more specific than just “race”. We can easily identify and differentiate Germans from Italians from Poles. And even Black Africans from African-Americans.

    However, the concept of race has its uses. When you say “White”, or “Black”, or “Asian” everybody knows what you’re talking about. It’s a shorthand for a specific broad group.

    Anyway, I haven’t read the full thing, but, I think both are right, and also wrong. EMJ is mostly wrong on race, while JT is mostly wrong (or silent) on Jews, and, while EMJ is mostly right on Jews and JT is righter or race.

    • 回复: @gastao
  80. G J T 说:

    为什么古希腊文明达到了非白人地区现代所谓的基督教文明的水平,这一问题可以很容易地用基督教身份来解释。 事实上,基督徒身份很容易解释这两个人叙述中的所有空白。 基督徒身份是世俗 WNs 和右翼所谓的基督徒根本无法让自己承认的绝对真理。 因此,对于最重要的问题,他们总是缺乏真正的答案。

    EMJ 和 Jared Taylor 可能是这两个“正确”群体内部运作的这种非此即彼/或错误二分法的完美、截然相反的例子。

  81. G J T 说:
    @AndrewR

    如果我没记错的话,他嫁给了一个kike。 在这种情况下,他只是另一个看门人。

  82. I think EMJ makes the more powerful argument…are there really about 40M blacks in America? Or are many of them white, since most are some combination of both. Why would you call someone black who is half-white and half-black? Why not call them white? Are Quadroon and Octaroon races? Is Elizabeth Warren Native American? Are Germans with dark hair Oriental from the Hun invasions? Are Slavs a different race than Scandinavians than Italians than Spaniards? Are Jews a race with their own supposed distinguishing DNA markers, and if so, how can they be be white or black or Oriental or Indian? How are some races able to subsume other races and maintain their racial supremacy, or alternatively, how are some races able to contaminate other races and maintain their racial supremacy? Why was Bill Clinton called the first black president? Are tall northern Chinese a different race than short southern Chinese? Why are some Asian Indians almost black but others are almost white, is Indian or southwest Asian a race? And what the heck kind of a race is Hispanic supposed to be?

    • 回复: @UR2
  83. The last two years, humanity learned -or should have learned- that races exist not only in dogs, cats, horses or vine, but between viruses too. For the differences between the alpha, beta, gamma or delta variations of the corona virus are caused ba slight, tiny changes of the genetic setup which result in differences in behaviour, aggressiveness, reproduction rate – which is exactly the definition of race.

  84. @White Elephant

    I disagree that Jews are not a nation and never were – that is all they are, although I think Old Testament Judaism was a religion, but that disappeared 2,000 years ago and today it is a talmudic cult. They are not a religion since they can be, self-proclaimed, Messianic, atheist, JuBu, whatever, and claim jewish if one or other parent is and they “grew up jewish”. They are not a race since they can be white, black, Indian, Oriental, convert which would have no supposed claimed DNA markers, whatever. The only thing Jewish is nationality, always a nation within a nation. With their own national holidays, customs, and traditions, posing as religious holidays, customs, traditions. Some people make distinction between being jewish and being a jew….anyone can convert to being jewish, but can’t be a jew.

  85. @jamie b.

    Yeah the one where the tall guy is trampled under is the one I liked the most.

  86. HT 说:
    @White Elephant

    我知道,而且美国的大多数人似乎仍然为这种疯狂的争论而堕落。 在过去的 50 年里,黑人被赋予了一切可能的优势,试图将他们同化到曾经的美国文化中。 黑人拥有的自由和选择越多,他们就越能接受他们病态和功能失调的文化,而不是我们的文化。 70 年前,黑人似乎还文明一半的唯一原因是因为他们被种族隔离和吉姆·克劳 (Jim Crow) 严格控制。 现在他们正在将他们暴力疯狂的部落文化强加于我们!

    • 回复: @geokat62
  87. macilrae 说:

    Quite fascinating and Jared Taylor made his argument forcefully and in clear terms while E. Michael Jones tended to obfuscate and lapse into the kind of opaque terminology so beloved of the liberal university set.

    But then Jones seemed to come off the rails and completely lost the thread of the argument he was trying to make – careening into a diatribe – a rant, that called out the Jewish Conspiracy. Thereafter, though the essence of what he had to say was in line with what most thinking people can see for themselves, the actual style played right into the hands of propagandists who often seize upon such outpourings to invoke the second coming of Adolf Hitler – and well has this served them. Jones went so overboard with this that the the host had to check him, else he would “harm my channel”.

    Forced to confront this new and quite unexpected topic, Taylor was appropriately restrained and evidently by no means in disagreement.

    What I found remarkable was that the prevailing social engineering project on the part of a Jewish elite – in which people of colour are artificially and selectively elevated in status in order to degrade the white majority – is recognized and deplored by somebody who, at the same time, denies the existence of race.

  88. Bernie 说:

    The problem is, EMJ just doesn’t know a lot about race. He did not respond to any of JTs points about genes being able to accurately identify race and racial differences. At one point, EMJ used adoption studies to try and point out that race doesn’t exist. In fact, adoption studies show the opposite. Blacks adopted and raised by whites had IQs matching blacks, not whites.

    I lost a lot of respect for EMJ after hearing him try to present his case.

  89. aandrews 说:

    Amazon has delisted 屠杀城市. I guess it’s a book that shouldn’t be read.

  90. HenryB 说:

    @ 1:30.00 Jones pulls his usual trick of inserting fiction as fact. He says the words and idea of race didn’t exist in German until about the advent of National Socialism! This is dangerous nonsense and ignores (for instance) the miscegenating dream of Moses Hess as described in his 1862 publication: Rome and Jerusalem. The Last National Question

    第六封信

    引用:

    [And] yet, on the basis of my long experience, I feel inclined to assert that Germany as a whole, in spite of its collective intellectuality, is in its practical social life far behind the rest of the civilized nations of Europe. The race war must first be fought out and definitely settled before social and humane ideas become part and parcel of the German people, as was the case with the Romance peoples which, after a long historical process, finally defeated race antagonism.

    来源: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Rome_and_Jerusalem/Sixth_Letter

  91. Jared Taylor doesn’t fully understand what Michael Jones position really is…

    And it is this:

    Michael Jones is enthusiast for importing Negro African Christians into towns across America without any concern for the consequences for the Native White Christian Working Class….Jones’s is demanding that the Native White Christian Working Class surrender to the Nigerians…..Jones said just this to Mike Peinovich and Eric Striker on the Right Stuff two years ago…

    • 谢谢: Trinity
    • 回复: @Bernie
    , @Deep Thought
  92. This guy with the beard talked so long I gave up. Why do so many internet people waste so much of our time?

    • 回复: @Pierre Simon
  93. Race doesn’t exist for Jones because he doesn’t want it to exist. The Nigerians that Jones wants to import into your Native White Town are highly racialized Democratic Party Voting Bloc…is Jones not aware of this?…Jones is living in a fantasy world…it’s the same disease that afflicts numberusa.com...

    D0n’t ever think that Jones is a friend of the White Working Class…Jones is onboard with post-1965 race-replacement immigration policy…and providing Jeff Bezos with a massive Hindu scab labor subsidy….Really, Jones is just beyond the pale…

  94. @Commentator Mike

    “…Jamaicans were blacks then as they’re blacks today. What’s murder rate got anything to do with it..?”

    Remove the constraints of White rule and their real racial nature comes to the fore.
    This is true for all formerly White ruled countries. Watch the film 非洲addio for a graphic impression of that.

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  95. BaronAsh 说:

    The prose meanders somewhat, especially at the beginning, but the author is putting forward a very important topic, one that is behind and above so many things happening today including the pandemic and upcoming Middle East war with a freshly weaponized and independent Taliban.

    谢谢。

  96. Alexandros 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    希特勒是一流的知识分子。 相比之下,这些家伙就显得苍白了。 即使是二流也是慷慨的。

    A guy like Revilo Oliver towers above them both. That’s what you should read.

    • 谢谢: Carolyn Yeager
  97. Anon[122]• 免责声明 说:

    “The universals known as “black” or “white,” on the other hand, while based on the objective realities we have already discussed, have no significance or meaningful content because superficial racial differences have no effect on behavior or identity other than what gets projected on them as categories of the mind.(44:35)

    This is the very core of this fellow’s argument – and it is not only totally unsupported by his statements, but utterly ridiculous, and counter-factual. There is a vast amount of research showing huge difference in behavior between “racial” groups.

    • 同意: Bernie
  98. G. Poulin 说:
    @AndrewR

    Not sure that there was ever a legal basis for reparations, as (legally speaking) chattel slaves were property and not contracted employees. The case for reparations rests on a legal fiction, namely that the slaves possess rights after the fact, rights that they didn’t possess while they were slaves. It would be like suddenly declaring, after the fact, that the rights of farm animals had been violated by all farmers, so that the descendants of the farm animals were now owed reparations.
    Another problem with the idea of reparations is that it rests on a false economic theory, which is the notion that labor magically imparts value to the things produced by it. In fact, labor has zero intrinsic value and has nothing to do with the value eventually agreed upon by the market. The laborer is entitled to whatever wage he and his employer have settled on, and if that wage is “nothing”, then nothing it is.

    • 回复: @bike-anarkist
  99. Fur baby 说:

    Humans of all shades must accept the fact that not everyone is like them and it’s important to have peaceful relations with people who are not necessarily like yourself. The country can’t survive otherwise.

    The sad tragedy is that we have race hustlers that create disunity and exploit for sensational news purposes any thing they can find that can have a racial component attached to it whether it’s true or not.
    Example in today’s morning paper a story appeared on the front page about a state cop beating a black motorist on camera from two years ago.. These crazy social justice warrior news reporters must wish to get trouble in the streets or why else publish it ? It’s time for the news media to be held accountable and take responsibility and any liability for damages when half the town goes up in smoke from unjustified violence and civil strife that they the media provoked.

  100. “In Europe in the Middle Ages, everyone belonged to one “limited group of persons descended from a common ancestor” or another, but “the white race” was a completely unknown concept.”

    Pre-Columbus, American Indians would not have seen any racial similarity between their various tribes. But context is everything.

  101. AndrewR 说:
    @Richard B

    Idk about how the CCP is doing this, but certainly they love having a fifth column in the US, many of whom are eagerly anti-white. I think China loves how Koreans and other non-Chinese East and Southeast Asians in the US are starting to identify more as “Asian” than anything else (including American), and how the US media and the Democrats conflate any criticism of China (specifically the government) as “anti-Asian.” And implicitly the media blames whites for the anti Asian violence committed overwhelmingly by blacks.

    By the time China goes to seize Taiwan, any criticism of its actions will likely be condemned as “anti Asian” and get bug people of all ethnicities to condemn such criticism.

    • 回复: @Richard B
    , @Malla
  102. So Jared Taylor is finally called out for the subversive gatekeeper he is. We should not be compromising with our own side. They are either for the truth or they are not.

    Getting half the message right makes them an enemy, not an ally. This may seem paradoxical prima facie, but it is not.

  103. @White Elephant

    可悲的现实:

    我们看到 RCC 坚持这一点,部分是这样。 他们竭尽全力,满足了公会的所有愿望,在大屠杀宗教面前顶礼膜拜,却没有做任何事情来阻止犹太人在西方文明中的横冲直撞和基督教国家的毁灭。 结论 – RCC 受到犹太人的严重控制。

    但上帝道成肉身耶稣的教会将永远占上风:

    路加福音 4:16-30 死海古卷(1956 年发现)11QMelchizedek 迈克尔哈德森在他的地标中破译 “……并免除他们的债务” (2018);

    约翰福音 8:44(((无情的说谎者和杀人犯)))。

    • 谢谢: White Elephant
  104. @Tony massey

    Taylor and Jones are NOT “grifters.”

    I think the reason EMJ refuses to recognize race is due to his Catholic faith, that says that all men are the same in the eyes of God. Of course, EMJ is not alone, as this is probably what most modern Christians believe, and this exposes a deep problem in Christianity……because massive third world immigration has been weaponized to destroy Christendom. (So, the Christian begs people to accept/love the invading hordes that are being imported with the express purpose of national destruction) Christians that think this way need to be shown that the spiritual and political realms are separate…..Christ said, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, but to God what is God’s.”

    Jews are NOT white….and DNA supports this assertion. Perhaps Taylor hoped to get jews on board to help save our people, but I don’t see this happening. Jennifer Rubin’s maliciousness exposes the general anti-white hatred endemic to the small hats. Ask lovely Jennifer if she identifies as “white.”

    Taylor is formidable in debates…..his mind is encyclopedic and he retains mountains of facts and figures. Yet, some call him a sellout. Sure, a “sellout” that has been kicked off of every jewish social media in existence because he’s brilliant and EFFECTIVE.

  105. Angharad 说:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    犹太人不是白人。 DNA是非常不同的。

    • 回复: @anon
  106. geokat62 说:
    @HT

    现在 他们 are forcing their violent insane tribal culture on us!

    Slight correction…

    Now (((they))) are forcing their violent insane tribal culture on us!

  107. Each of these two gentlemen say countless things which we know to be true and are important.

    But as to this debate, EMJ nailed the important take-away bottom line:

    In an obit on Sam Francis which appeared in the American Conservative, we were told that Jared Taylor wanted to do for white nationalism what William F. Buckley did for conservatism. And what is that? Well, to subvert it for the benefit of Jewish interests. One of the entries at the SPLC site claims that “It is well-known that the American Renaissance does not allow anti-Semitism; it is uptown, 100% clean WN [white nationalism]. Call it a first step if you like, but it is a very important first step, and Jared Taylor has had success.”[4]

    所以,祝贺贾里德让犹太人适合礼貌的陪伴。 然而,这种转变对任何参与文化战争的人都产生了严重的后果。 一旦犹太人变成白人,他们就变得隐形,而一旦革命的犹太人变得隐形,我们就遇到了严重的困难,无法对困扰西方 50 多年的任何病态提供令人信服的解释——从无限武器化移民到色情到堕胎到中东战争。

  108. anon[238]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    While whites being those whose ancestors lived in Europe 500 years ago is a decent rough and ready answer to the question, who is white?, Jews don’t fit into that category very easily. Yes, the Ashkenazi lived in Europe, but they practiced endogamy, which is what led to their extreme separation from Europeans. In the same way, the gypsies are not white, but have also lived in Europe for generations.

    • 回复: @Treg
  109. anonymous[438]• 免责声明 说:

    I thought Jared Taylor was doing great until about 1:06 when E. Michael Jones raised the Jewish Question and proceeded to slaughter Mr. Taylor for the next 15 minutes. Way to go E. Michael Jones! You’re my new hero.

  110. HenryB 说:
    @White Elephant

    LOL….Sorry I missed your reply. I was busy mowing my “brown lawn”

  111. Charles 说:
    @Mike Tre

    “Society is a racial construct” explains it better than Jones or Taylor (in my reading of their work) ever have.

  112. Taylor won the debate on race, but Jones is totally right about Jared’s weird association with Jews.

    Extraordinary journalist Michael Collins Piper, now deceased, showed in one of his books available on line for free, Juda’s Goats. The enemy within, that Taylor is a Mossad asset:

    https://archive.org/details/MichaelCollinsPiperTheJudasGoatsTheEnemyWithin

    Taylor seems to be affected with double thought. He’s able on the one hand to denounce the war against Whites, but is unable at the same time to name the Jews that are responsable. He even sides with them and claims they are just as White as he.

    这是荒谬的。

    • 回复: @Druide
  113. Bernie 说:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Ironically, EMJ ends up taking the exact same position on race as the people he criticizes.

  114. @Tono Bungay

    It’s pretty normal for a catholic like Jones to think races don’t exist and that everyone is equal. He also thinks the meek will inherit the earth, so for him it is perfectly normal to import the meek in every developed White country. Dr Pierce talks a lot about this topic.

    • 回复: @gastao
  115. Anon[238]• 免责声明 说:

    Jones claims to have been raised in an Irish Catholic neighborhood in Philadelphia, but this is impossible, based on his doctrine of ethnicity. For to be Irish, properly speaking, one must be both Catholic and speak ancient Irish, which Jones apparently does not do, nor do the vast majority of those present day Catholics living in Ireland.

    • 回复: @Wokechoke
  116. Trinity 说:

    新教和天主教会(((渗透)))与学术界一样糟糕。 我离开了一个教堂,因为他们总是为海地收集藏品,而就在路上的是生活在肮脏中的白人。

    我正在 SBN aka Swaggart Broadcasting Network 上观看一个节目,他们有一个犹太人父子组合,据称他们皈依了 (((Christianity))),这两个犹太人主导了整个对话,而不是完全了解丹尼尔的书谈话针对的是以色列和美国和国外的反犹太主义。

    I remember back in the 1990s I was cruising down highway 60 in Brandon, Florida on a Sunday morning after a night of “dranking” and tom-catting, Cue: Sunday Morning Coming Down by Johnny Cash. I look over at a Catholic church and I must have seen at least a hundred East Indians milling around the Catholic church. I personally have known or met several Vietnamese or Laotian refugees who were brought over here by the Catholic church. Oh, the church that I was attending and the one that neglected poor Whites for Haitians? They were something called, “Freewill Baptist,” whatever the heck that is, so in the past it was MAINLY the Catholics doing this caca but now it is the Catholic and Protestant church that are willing to flood Browns, Blacks and Yellows into America, set them up with all kinds of freebies while they totally ignore their own White American that is homeless and hungry.

    IF you attend any Christian church that says race doesn’t exist or has loads of Christian Zionist who cater to Jews and nonwhites over their White brothers and sisters, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.

    • 回复: @babu
    , @Johnny Johnny
  117. @Bernie

    Yes…bad White People for revolting against post-1965 race-replacement policy…Jones is well aware of what’s going on…and he approves of it…

    • 同意: Trinity
  118. anarchyst 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    EMJ is missing one important fact, perhaps the most important.

    Racial differences are real and are innate.

    EMJ has been “poisoned” by the jewish led and run “multiculturalism and diversity” scam.

    Spreading Catholicism should not require “multiculturalism and diversity”, but quite the opposite…should encourage and promote stable monocultures, free of jewish influence.

  119. Jared was anointed by the “progressives” in the circumcised tribe to lead the “white” opposition into oblivion.

    E.M. Jones states the following which should sound alarm bells with everyone who understands the Cass Sunstein approach to infiltrating opposition. “Yet, if we log on to the SPLC website and type American Renaissance into their search engine, we find that the SPLC has good things to say about that organization. In fact, a quick search of the SPLC web site informs us that AR president Jared Taylor is ‘an opponent of anti-Semitism.’”

  120. gastao 说:

    当白人放松警惕时->“杀死白人!!”

    当白人获得种族意识时->“哦,哦,种族只是虚构的”

    • 同意: Rosie
    • 谢谢: Trinity
  121. gastao 说:
    @Pierre Simon

    if you notice there’s pretty much no difference between christianity and communism.
    they are both internationalist, which is designed for whites to lose their racial/ethnic solidarity and awareness, and they are both geared to “help the poor” which always translates into “help the africans”.

    • 同意: TTSSYF
    • 回复: @Quartermaster
  122. @War for Blair Mountain

    Native White …

    The Whites are no more “Native” to America than the Blacks, Browns, or Yellows!! Only the Reds are true Natives.

    • 回复: @Trinity
    , @Mike Tre
  123. gastao 说:
    @Dumbo

    ““Whites” can englobe a lot of people that have little in common (including, for some, Arabs and Jews)”.

    No, it doesn’t. White means European. When jews, blacks, etc say “kill whitey” they are talking about Europeans, not Persians.

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  124. KenH 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    Jamaicans were blacks then as they’re blacks today. What’s murder rate got anything to do with it?

    A lot. Black majority nations have higher murder rates than white nations. Blacks in America have always been more violent than whites. Blacks are genetically prone to violence.

    Like Franklin said when Jamaicans became independent and ruled over themselves their true nature revealed itself and crime exploded. The same explosion in violent crime happened in S. Africa after the white apartheid government abdicated to the black nationalist ANC which continues to this day.

    Every majority (or plurality) black U.S city with mostly black government officials is an urban hellscape.

  125. @gastao

    共产主义和基督教之间存在巨大差异。 共产主义是通过武力和颠覆传播的,因为它不能以任何其他方式传播。 它的目标是接管世界。 该计划是强加一个会导致乌托邦的制度,无论尝试过多少次,它都不会产生任何东西,只会产生暴力和贫困。

    另一方面,耶稣基督委托使徒使每个国家的人成为门徒。 基督教的目标不是接管世界,而是说​​服其他人归向基督以求得罪的赦免。 基督将回归统治,他将推翻我们现在所忍受的邪恶制度。 没有人能带来基督回归世界。 那个时间是由上帝单独决定的。

    • 不同意: TTSSYF
  126. Something about “white” has to deeper than mere skin color? If so then what? If an antifa in your face rainbow warrior is white at the skin level does that qualify as entry into whitedom?

    • 回复: @gastao
  127. follyofwar 说:
    @Vergissmeinnicht

    I did watch such a debate back before all the best content on YouTube got cancelled. It may have been on Richard Spencer’s podcast. Goad dressed for the occasion wearing a funny hat and a clown suit, no doubt to mock EMJ, who didn’t seem to get the joke.

    To Jones, it seems you are a logos practicing Roman Catholic or you are wrong (perhaps I’ve simplified it too much). In any case, I looked up an article from NPR (3-30-21) which reported that over half of US adults do not practice ANY religion. And, many of our Founding Fathers were Deists, skeptical of Christianity. EMJ’s hypothesis that the US is divided into Cath/Prot/Jew is far too narrow. I’d agree it is delusional.

    BTW, even as a non-believer myself, I’ve always enjoyed listening to Jones. I used to watch him all the time on YouTube. Goad was ignorant to call him a “senile dipshit.” That honor belongs to Joe Biden.

    • 回复: @Morton's toes
    , @Dr. Krieger
  128. @Robert Dolan

    You’ve identified the internal difficulty the Church must overcome so as to avoid contributing to white genocide and thereby the slaughter to the flock while doing the work of Christ:

    …this exposes a deep problem in Christianity……because massive third world immigration has been weaponized to destroy Christendom. (So, the Christian begs people to accept/love the invading hordes that are being imported with the express purpose of national destruction) Christians that think this way need to be shown that the spiritual and political realms are separate…..Christ said, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, but to God what is God’s.”

    • 回复: @S
  129. phil 说:

    Very interesting article, but “races” in the sense of continental ancestry groups do have a biological dimension. Globally, there are genetic clusters; the degree of genetic similarity inside a cluster is different than it is across clusters.

    In a similar vein, Ashkenazi Jews are biologically distinguishable from ethnic Europeans, who can be divided genetically into northwest Europeans and southeast Europeans. Differences in average IQ across these groups may have a genetic component. Whether or not Jews are called “white” is a cultural matter. In any case, on average they behave differently than other groups of “whites.”

    • 同意: eah
  130. Trinity 说:

    I knew a Vietnamese “refugee” who was sponsored over here by the Catholic church, she “attended” the church I think OCCASIONALLY but still practiced Buddhism. LMAO. In other words, she was playing the role.

    Just like the CUCKservative argument about being “legal” or illegal, I don’t give two shits about whether a nonwhite is “legal” or illegal, White America doesn’t need any more nonwhite immigrants here to game the system, take money and food from poor Whites, etc.

    NEARLY ALL of these “refugees” or nonwhite “immigrants” start hating America and Whitey as soon as they get all their freebies and become an official citizen. America was NEVER intended to be Brazil, and while the Catholic church hasn’t done the damage the Jew has done, they have done enough harm already. And now the good ole brainwashed Protestants are parroting the same horseshit.

    • 回复: @Anon
  131. Trinity 说:
    @Deep Thought

    Yeah, but WHITES BUILT AMERICA UP FROM NOTHING. The Black, Brown, Yellow and Jew have done little if anything to contribute to the building of this nation other than leeching off Whitey.

  132. There’s more than one definition of the word “race.”

    All those that identify themselves by their skin seem to think that the only definition is, “a tribe, nation, or people, regarded as of common stock.”

    Another definition of race is, “a group of persons, animals, or plants, connected by common descent or origin.” With this definition, all ethnic groups are variants of a single race.

    A better word to use when describing variants in the human race is “species.” This word is defined as, “the outward appearance or aspect, the visible form or image, of something, as constituting the immediate object of vision.”

    It seems that the majority of Whitey’s pushing the race narrative are assimilated Americans who have completely lost their region-specific European ethnicity and have nothing else to grasp on to except their semi-white “Epsilon” buttocks. Barbara Lerner Spectre, doesn’t give a shit about whiteness. She specifically stated that “Europe will not survive…..” What’s an American Diaspora Fake Jewish Princess doing in Sweden anyway???

    • 回复: @CelestiaQuesta
  133. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Maybe White rule of yesteryear. I don’t know if today’s White society manages to restrain them much.

  134. ivan 说:
    @TGD

    Of course when Jews, sorry the “Communists” defenestrated Lithuania and the other Baltic states, they had tears streaming down their faces like the Walrus in Lewis Carroll’s poem. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, said another Jew.

    And your story about the Krupps wouldn’t pass muster either, they were indeed ruthless capitalists, but a few hundred thousand slaves? I don’t recall reading that in William Manchester’s book.

  135. @Priss Factor

    与古典时代的德国人相比,混合了陶雷格/撒哈拉以南非洲人的努米底亚人的文明程度更高。 中世纪非洲最文明、最国际化的城市是突尼斯南部的加夫萨,它说自己的粗俗拉丁方言,直到 14 世纪都有一位活跃的天主教主教。 伊本·哈尔敦(Ibn Khaldun),泰勒一开始就提到,在提到加夫萨时,他自己的陈述是个例外。

  136. gastao 说:
    @Jack McArthur

    white -> European.

    that’s all there is to it.

    yes, there are white people who are completely brainwashed to hate their kind.

  137. @Robert Dolan

    Perhaps a poor choice then.
    I’ve always been very well informed on an anecdotal level but frankly until recently i had never heard of really any of these people.
    Duke i was semi aware of and i agreed with 30 years ago when i think he ran for(or gov?)Congress in la. I was in college at the time and i didn’t understand all the vitriol coming from my peers because it sure seemed to me he was dead on.
    But it wasn’t practical for me to listen to…advocates of whiteness.
    Its like when I’m reading say iSteve and he’s saying well .11 gets you this but over here you have .17 and looking at these coefficients well you can clearly see…that’s all non sense to me.

    [更多]

    Debates on IQ psssst. Having a higher IQ than an entire gang of aspiring rappers(even the honor students) ain’t much gonna help me. Who cares?
    Do we really. need to take tests(written or dna)to prove what my eyes and ears have alwaystold me was true? Maybe some do.
    Hey i appreciate the replyand I’ll stop rambling. I want to understand it all as best as i am able and i usually get more from the comments section than i do from the Articles. Much Much thanks to Mr Unz for such a wonderful thing. I’d never get a chance to engage in discussions routinely found here anywhere else but here. I cant even talk to the people I’ve known in some cases my entire life because it’ll get heated quick and words start getting exchanged and we all basically agree for crying out loud. Yeh all convo has stopped. I’d be a bigger fool than i am to speak freely where i live to any but just a few of my neighbors about race. It’s that fucking crazy. And the one’s i could speak freely without consequence to wouldn’t be necessary and any thing we might possibly agree on wouldn’t matter in the least to the world.
    To end i will say that imo anytime Catholic doctrine(or any religion) is brought into the race debate you just lost me because i mean come on i get it’s important to some but is it wise to introduce church doctrine to strengthen your argument that aspiring rappers are good/bad for White folk?
    Some people’s kids believe everyone is equally equal(and for those that believe that they would. becorrect) and some people’s kids believe God knocked up a virgin and said virgin produced a half jew half God(how do you be half a god?) And i dont much believe it is worth listening to much coming out of the mouths who do for a fact believe those 2 things.
    Hey ya know in the end we’re all fucked. I can’t prove it to ya but that’s my only for sure rock solid belief.
    I hope I’m wrong. 72 virgins would. be fantastic(i do agree with Dennis Miller that after the first 3or4 you’re gonna be looking around for a pro) i think alot better than having your own planet. Having your own planet is cool to.
    Again gracias

  138. anon[166]• 免责声明 说:

    I look forward to the next vid, in which E. Mike Jones will show that because the surface of the Earth is a continuum, mountains are a fiction. In fact, for that matter, so is dry land.

    Jones is a midwit.

    • 回复: @War for Blair Mountain
  139. anon[250]• 免责声明 说:

    在这场灾难性的辩论之后,我认真地认为 EMJ 将被从所有严肃的出版物中删除。

    他表现出他不理解也不能应用逻辑。 他很快就发起人身攻击,表明他无法辩论事实和数据。

    他是严肃期刊的耻辱。

    • 回复: @Anon
  140. Dumbo 说:
    @gastao

    Until recently for the U.S. government, Arabs were White.

    Jared Taylor says Jews are White.

    I don’t know. As I said, it depends on your definition of “White”. For instance, there are some radical Nordicists that argue that Sicilians, Sardinians or even Spaniards are “not white”. Even though they are and have always been European (despite some small and overhyped genetic contribution of Moors).

    Just for the looks, many Persians appear pretty White to me. (And weren’t Iranians the original “Aryans”?)

    But I suppose, being European (and euro-descendants) is partly cultural too, so it’s not just about skin colour or the shape of the face. It’s about the whole package. Language, culture, religion and ancestry.

    • 回复: @gastao
    , @S
  141. @Trinity

    The “Native Americans” from Siberia…..who enjoyed their neighbors American Injuns infants brains for some of that YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY MANCORN IN MY INJUN TUMMY!!!…Hey..I got me self a bubble gum pop tune here!!!!…Top of the Charts!!!

    • 回复: @Trinity
  142. Anon[238]• 免责声明 说:
    @Trinity

    I’ve known many pious Vietnamese Catholics. Some even spoke French (refugees from North Vietnam). It only occurred to me after reading Jones’ theories that these were Frenchman and not Vietnamese! trời đất ơi!

  143. Petermx 说:

    A great debate. Two very interesting speakers. Dr. Jones is very convincing and makes me question my own beliefs.

    Regarding ethnic slurs, I think the “N” word has been the most demeaning ethnic insult for at least 80 years but at some point (maybe in the 1980’s) “NAZI” replaced “Nigger” as the most hateful insult you could call someone and now it’s used against all Whites, including those whose grandfathers killed as many Germans as they could in WW II. This ethnic/racial insult was popularized and given its current level of hatred emoted by those oh so sensitive, decent and fair minded Jews. They may have also invented the insult.

    • 谢谢: mark green
  144. Trinity 说:

    作为一名基督徒,我宁愿住在一个充满白人无神论者的街区,也不愿住在一个充满所谓“基督徒”的非白人街区。

    • 同意: Rosie
    • 回复: @gastao
    , @Truth
  145. @anon

    And Michael and his Family get the Bantu Justice…Michael shrieks out:”but..but I am not European…my daughters are not European..” As the Bantus toss the Jones Family into a large black pot of boiling oil…..”

    • 回复: @Truth
  146. Trinity 说:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Oh boy, my mom had that 45 and I remember it well.

    Cue: Yummy, Yummy, Yummy by Ohio Express

    Of course do not mistake Ohio Express for The Ohio Players.

    Cue: Skin Tight by Ohio Players, yo.

    Or even the song, “The Express,” by BT Express. Here comes the express…..

  147. anon[388]• 免责声明 说:
    @Reg Cæsar

    我在这些页面中读到的白人种族主义者是我想象中的一小部分白人吗? 否则,白人就没有希望了,如果所有的白人都如此愚蠢,那么整个人类可能就没有希望了。

    作为所有这些观点的来源和基础的所有胡说八道都是白人几个世纪以来统治世界的结果,由英国/盎格鲁撒克逊美国人领导,由犹太人搭载,他们是人类退化的真正罪犯和灭绝,体面的人类进化文化的真正窒息

    但我们确实拥有大自然,而大自然讲述的真实的人类故事在英/美/犹太 3-4 世纪之外讲述了全面的人类历史。 迫在眉睫的伟大重置必须是彻底改变这些谎言,并解决世界上的英国、美国和犹太势力之一。 人类没有机会在自然中恢复理智和生命,按照自然的方式进行仲裁并无限期地进行自然,以查看我们可以对这种生活做出的永久性

    • 同意: bike-anarkist
  148. Patricus 说:

    如果给一个普通人提供 100 张来自世界各地的人的照片,他或她应该能够非常准确地识别这些人属于哪个种族。 尽管非洲人之间存在很多差异,但来自非洲的人具有独特的外观。 亚洲人也各不相同,但我们的普通观众不太可能将亚洲人与非洲人或欧洲人混淆。 美洲原住民可能在 15,000 年前来自欧亚大陆。 尽管玻利维亚人与加拿大的北美人有很大不同,但他们的外表很容易辨认。 我们的观众几乎肯定会认出土著美国人与非洲人、亚洲人或欧洲人不同。 澳大利亚原住民虽然肤色相同,但与非洲人不同。

    我们可以对什么构成种族问题不屑一顾,但我们不能忽视我们可以清楚地看到的东西。 种族可能是一个不科学的术语,但它清楚地描述了人。 我们称这些有翼飞行的生物为鸟类。 我们称这些有鳞的陆地生物为蜥蜴或爬行动物。 这些都不是官方的科学术语,但用文字来区分鸟类和蜥蜴是有帮助的。

  149. Indoctrinating whites and other non blacks with American black hoodrat lifestyle is one of the primary reasons whites and non black cultures around the world have embraced rap, booty shaking and BLM as a model to follow.
    Everywhere you look, globalists are pushing Magic Negros and GlobalHomo as if it magically was around for the last few thousand years and we just happen to wake up today to it’s existence. Now that’s (((Hollywood))) Magic.

    Nothing says FTL (faster than light) targeted influence peddling than the current forced CRT being pushed across every platform known and unknown. By FTL I mean the time it takes a propaganda hit piece signal to reach orbiting satellites and bounce back into every living room, computer and mobile device on the planet before the light of day.

  150. profnasty 说:

    Jews are liars.
    Whites are cucks.
    这是一种共生关系。

    (rimshot. Bam. I got a thousand of ’em.)

  151. S 说:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Sure, help others, but within the context of it not being harmful or destructive to yourself, your family, or, people.

    That is how the healthy individual/people does things.

    Destroying one’s self, family, and people, by taking away from them the necessities of life, ie food, shelter, and land, and giving those necessities away to others, supposedly to ‘help’ them, is simply murder/suicide, and is ultimately not helping anyone.

    KJV 1 Timothy 5:8: ‘But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.’

    • 同意: Robert Dolan
  152. TheMoon 说:

    Blah blah blah 让我们都假装和捣乱在一个伪智力的舞蹈中。

    10,000 年后,这个时代将被描绘成一群受过高等教育的人,如果他们愿意描绘它的话,他们会走进墙壁并从楼梯上绊倒。

  153. BorisMay 说:

    尽管作者巧妙地重新定义了“种族”,但对历史的无知并不是写这样一篇无知、傲慢和脱节的文章的借口。

    4000 多年前,在西欧的弗里斯兰邦联,“种族”是他们书面历史的一个突出方面,我们今天称之为“奥拉琳达”。

    它清楚地表明存在三个种族:白人、黄人和黑人。 它明确规定每个种族都与其他种族不同。

    那时弗里斯兰人不仅航行于世界,而且在印度北部也有大量弗里斯兰人定居。

    亚历山大大帝委托他们建造一支舰队供他的军队使用。

    Ora Linda 非常清楚种族的差异,尽管黑人非洲人被雇用作为弗里斯兰船只的桨手,这导致黑人在弗里西亚南部(现代比利时)定居,但他们坚持不应该进行种族混合。

    所以作者关于种族直到 15 世纪才在欧洲被提及的说法是错误的。 至少从公元前 2250 年开始,种族就成为西欧文化的一部分,当时奥尔达兰在短短三天内沉没在北海之下。

    我确实希望这些作家在纯粹的无知破坏他们的立场之前进行适当的研究。

    • 谢谢: CelestiaQuesta
    • 回复: @Marcion
  154. Reg Cæsar 说:
    @anon

    the white racists I read in these pages…
    all of the nonsense that is the source and basis…
    but we do have nature…

    Why don’t you and Trinity trade minuscules and majuscules? That way you’d both be more readable.

    • 回复: @anon
  155. babu 说:

    在这里,我们有两个白人在讨论美国的种族主义,但没有提及任何像阿莫斯·威廉姆斯或韦尔辛博士这样的黑人评论员或社会学家。 这对你来说是种族主义。

  156. Race doesn’t exist?

    Just what the fuck do you call that subhuman Amazonian deep forest monkey Jeb Bush married? Swedish?…Norwegian?…

    The Bush Family still hasn’t been able to paper train this little brained forest monkey….You can imagine the white haired Bush Family Matriarch Barbara waking up in the morning at Keneebunkport….stepping on some monkey shit screaming:”FUCK!!!!!!!”

    • 谢谢: Robert Dolan
  157. Publius 2 说:
    @J. Jonah Jameson

    种族将白色蹒跚学步的孩子从商场三楼扔下,但在(((新闻)))中几乎没有提到。

  158. Bruno 说:

    我无法决定这对中哪一个更温和。

  159. Mr. Ed 说:
    @Priss Factor

    @PF:

    I generally enjoy your comments, but you seem a bit obsessed with ‘muscular black men’; you mention it nearly every day. Most large black men are just obese.

  160. gastao 说:
    @Trinity

    基于。 相同的。

    EMJ 也是如此。

    • 回复: @Trinity
  161. Anonymous[111]• 免责声明 说:
    @J. Jonah Jameson

    THIS debate is USELESS/Futile/wasteful/pointless…TO (our overlords) there are only TWO categories of human beings: JEWISH and NONjewish=Goyim=savages=UNgodly. While we debate endlessly such irrelevant issues, the JEWS will give us Viruses/lockdowns/WARS/hunger/financial crisis/debt slavery/etc ….the DEBATE MUST BE about: the JEWS vrs Humanity/goyims..Sadly Mr. Jones , a devout catholic. forgets that catholicism before the spilt(s) meant Universal in the context of universal human covenant with God. Jones also forgets that CHRISTIANITY both catholic/non catholics MUST carry out their main task/mission/objecetive TO CONVERT THE JEWS to accept Christianity..thats what Paul/Peter/ said and thats the bases of the main theological tenets of Chtistainity (Paul) for It is your duty as christian to convert the jews,,,so as to save your soul and theirs…the universality of salvation…

    • 回复: @Nancy
  162. @Jon Baptist

    Lions don’t mate with chimpanzees or with other species. Nature should be the canary in a coal mine for CRT now being used against us.
    My ancestral lineage did not come from “Out Of Africa”. That bs is why we’re in this mess in the first place.
    You’re just another lying hoodrat like Truth and Demand and Supply, using your white masters language against him.

    • 回复: @Jon Baptist
  163. gastao 说:
    @anon

    what’s idiotic about caring about your people, your race, etc?

  164. babu 说:
    @Trinity

    你声称贫穷和需要帮助的白人是两次失败者。 这个国家建立在被盗土地、奴隶制和种族灭绝上,完全是为了白人的利益和名义。 你应该站出来为白人的权利而战。

  165. AReply 说:

    “我们今天的主题是“种族是一个重要的话题还是一个虚构的话题?”

    继续…。!

    阅读 Unz 的“刊头”声明,并注意关于他如何涵盖他“不同意”的另类观点的一小部分,但他无法涵盖所有​​的另类观点,因为实在是太多了。 那么想知道 Unz 对替代视图的选择标准是什么? 他没有说,所以你只剩下将发表的内容作为声明,正如你应该的那样,因为如果他始终只发表他不同意的观点而没有批评,那么这些就是他的观点。

    所以现在你所要做的就是扫描网站! 并考虑本条; 这是嘈杂的副歌中的众多歌曲之一:

    – 血液纯度

    罗恩·恩兹 (Ron Unz) 有另一个小角度来赞美自己的工作,这应该是一种模糊的衡量标准,可以衡量他与所有疯狂的白人什叶派的不满、散播恐惧和老派偏见之间的智力距离。 我的感觉是,Unz 真的认为这些空间之间没有任何联系,就像患有低级阿斯伯格症的人看不到肢体语言和所说内容之间的任何联系一样。 但是,当编辑的主要游戏是巡回演出时,他的无知是一个艰难的决定。

    它让这个网站看起来真的很蠢,但也很有趣

    除了血液纯净的东西

    “啦啦啦啦! (叮当,叮当,砰)”
    “反叛!”

    • 巨魔: Tony massey
  166. gastao 说:
    @Dumbo

    “Until recently for the U.S. government, Arabs were White”.

    So? Arabs are still genetically different from Europeans. The US government also considers some men as women. So?

    “Jared Taylor says Jews are White”.

    Yeah, but jews don’t. Only when it’s convenient, of course. “Fellow white people (…)”.

    “As I said, it depends on your definition of “White”.

    There is only one definition of white. It means racially/genetically European people. Everything else is just divide & conquer to prevent Europeans from uniting. When jews and blacks say “kill whitey” they are always talking about Europeans. Not Persians.

    “Just for the looks, many Persians appear pretty White to me”.

    So? There are asians who are also very pale skin. So? They are still genetically different from Europeans.

    “But I suppose, being European (and euro-descendants) is partly cultural too, so it’s not just about skin colour or the shape of the face. It’s about the whole package. Language, culture, religion and ancestry”.

    No. It’s entirely genetic. An European living like an indigeneous from south america is sill European.

  167. It pains me to see people shitting on Jones. Jones is a fine man and he believes in what he is saying. You can disagree…no need to get nasty about it.

    https://archive.org/details/BitChute-VMZsq9HgopN5

    The man has done some excellent work. In fact, his explanation regarding how the jews implemented the sexual revolution as a form of goy control is absolutely brilliant.

    I think he’s wrong on race, but…..I still admire the man.

  168. @anon

    让我澄清一下你是谁,你是什么; 你是一个充满仇恨的反白人偏执狂。

    eg子

  169. Treg 说:

    “…Taylor’s “wife” Evelyn Rich”.

    Is Michael trying to say that Jarod Taylor’s wife Evelyn Rich Jewish or that she only pretends to be a wife?

  170. @follyofwar

    To Jones, it seems you are a logos practicing Roman Catholic or you are wrong (perhaps I’ve simplified it too much).

    1. You are almost exactly correct.
    2. I cut him some slack because he is torn to pieces over what has happened to the institution. The pope would rather get anal-fisted than preach about traditional sexual values.

  171. S 说:
    @Dumbo

    这是关于 整个包裹. Language, culture, religion and ancestry.

    Yes, quite right.

    Individuals and peoples are products of nurture and nature, ie environment 基因。

    The idea that identity stems from only one, or, the other, I would submit is a false dichotomy.

    Presumably Jones was (and is) a big fan of the 1983 movie 交易场所.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_Places

  172. anon[388]• 免责声明 说:
    @Reg Cæsar

    ‘aren’t white people so intellectually superior they can figure anything and everything out. all one needs is a modicum of clarity and there they go! figuring everything out.’

    seriously I could not imagine anyone here would have a problem with that comment of mine. now that I know next time I will be careful, slow, simple and detailed

    • 巨魔: Richard B
  173. Treg 说:
    @anon

    “Cultural exogamy is marrying outside a specific cultural group; the opposite being endogamy, marriage within a social group.”

    I am curious if there is any statistical data, broken down by the many subethnic groups of man, showing that there is either an inherent genetic bias or a cultural genetic predilection towards exogamy and endogamy. Data something like this:

    Native Northern Americans:
    Apache —- 4/100 exogamy and .1 endogamy
    Hopi, —- 1/100 exogamy and .4 endogamy
    Navajo — 15/100 exogamy and .1 endogamy
    Maricopa, 5/100 exogamy and .1 endogamy

    European Whites:
    Irish — 5/100 exogamy and .1 endogamy
    Welsh — 1/100 exogamy and .4 endogamy
    Dutch — 5/100 exogamy and .1 endogamy
    French — 4/100 exogamy and .1 endogamy
    Scottish — 5/100 exogamy and .1 endogamy
    德语
    意大利语
    希腊语
    西班牙语

  174. Ruckus 说:
    @KenH

    Jews do have some reptilian DNA. Along with a higher degree of neanderthal genes than most Europeans.

  175. Trinity 说:
    @gastao

    LMAO. You know damn well EMJ would. As long as my neighbor is W-H-I-T-E and reasonably cool and easy to get along with, I could care less what their religion or belief system happens to be.

    My guess is EMJ and JT are really on the same team. haha. Let one of these two clowns debate David Duke.

  176. Nancy 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    Really? even the ‘senile dipshit’ Dr. Jones?

  177. Jihadijew 说:

    Why Arnie so pissed. Did he loose he pension and life savings?

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-on-the-jews-and-their-lies-%f0%9f%98%89/

    Where is ADL? Anti Semite Anti Semite. They go after weak and cowards.

    • 回复: @Trinity
  178. Wokechoke 说:
    @Priss Factor

    Ceasar’s cavalry bodyguard were all German. Cavalry are a technologically sophisticated warrior class.

  179. Wokechoke 说:
    @Anon

    They certainly don’t live in an American counterfeit facsimile of a Greek city. Baltimore is a bit closer to being pseudo Irish though.

  180. Trinity 说:
    @Jihadijew

    Lest we forget that Arnie was brought over and set up by (((Uncle Joe Weider.))) Don’t know IF the story is real or phony but there are rumors that either (((Weider))) was/is a homersexual. ( Not sure if the cat is still alive.))) I remember seeing pictures of his wife back in the day, she would often pose with Arnie or some other muscle dude for protein shake adds or some other type of bodybuilding pics. Betty Weider was her name IF I am not mistaken. She was a hawt looking babe for sure in her day. Probably was a beard unless (((Uncle Joe))) swung both ways. Arnie might be Austrian but he has been a shabbos goy all along. From what I have heard, he is a pompous jerk from way back.

    A lot of Austrians/Germans have been so cowed over the years that they are some of the worse shabbos goys out there, even worse than John Hagee or JT when it comes to not wanting to talk about the J-E-W. Worked with two Germans once, both still had heavy accents like Arnie even though they both had been here for awhile. One time I brought up Hitler to one them, and the guy looked like he had saw a ghost. “Hitler was an asshole” was this dude’s response. lolololol.

    • 回复: @Jihadijew
  181. S 说:

    While no doubt noting the similarities, the ancient Greeks had no problem also noting the differences between peoples, such as in the light humor of the drinking vessel below manufactured circa 500 BC.

  182. Jluker 说:

    Arguing a losing proposition that race is a fiction would test the skills of the most erudite logistician. It is a great a challenge as it is an impossible argument to win. It necessarily follows that any attempt to do so will devolve into mere sophistry as the facts are so one sided and self-evident.

    To deconstruct the sophistry in the authors argument I always use the rule of the opposite. It is an old trick of the sophists to use the opposing argument for their position and redefine words and maxims to construct a new supposition. For example, the author states, “To be more specific, race, as we now understand the term, is a category of the mind which gets imposed on subject peoples as a form of marginalization and control.” But his is absurd. Race is self-evident. Its genesis occurs naturally to the being. And how exactly is race “imposed” upon people? In fact, it is anti-race that is imposed, such as the authors attempt to create a fiction that race is a fiction. Hence, the rule of the opposite. The bread and butter of sophistry.

    “Category of the mind,” is a nonsensical, politically correct phrase that has no meaning. The actual marginalization and control technique is the proposition that race is a fiction. This argument is an old elitist trick. The object of this trick is to place the subject peoples under a central elitist rule. “Out of many, one.” The amalgamation of subject peoples under one single tyranny.

    The author defines a universal as, “A universal is something outside of nature which is brought to nature in order to organize nature and make it, as a result, comprehensible.” This description is incorrect. A universal is the total category of all things. If the discussion were about pencils, the universal is all writing instruments. Race is not a universal, human begins are a universal. Race is the categories of human beings. Race is inherently natural, as opposed to the politically correct, but nonsensical argument that race is a “category of the mind;” whatever that expression means. Race is an observable phenomenon. The fiction is the fiction that race is a fiction, or a simulacrum, meaning, “likeness or semblance.” Race is the real and the fiction is the imaginary.

    The authors historical knowledge is simply a misconstruction. He says, “This is true of 17th century Virginia, where the planter class decided to divide the working class according to skin color, thereby ensuring a docile workforce in which working class whites were considered superior to working class blacks.”

    There was nothing “docile” about the white working class of 17th century Virginia (e.g., Bacon’s rebellion). Insurrections were common and most farmers were independent. The negro race was bonded to service just as whites, only there were fewer blacks. The labor status of the negro race was altered via a court case ironically, involving a black slave owner (Casor v. Johnson ). This civil status did not create “slavery” it added the conditional of heredity and race. This was the correct ruling as it is the white race who owns the property, not other races. At any rate, this civil legal status led to the marginalization of white labor in the future, not black. This condition is self-evident upon examination of the labor prices of negro bondservants (erroneously referred to as slaves) until 1860. Compare this to the price New England slave traders paid for their negro slaves from Africa until 1865 (when the 19th century New England slave trade ended) and it’s clear that division by race was not a benefit to the dominant race, except for the New England slave traders. It was cheap, unskilled white labor that was marginalized in favor of higher priced and well-trained black labor.

    The author tries the trick of applying an old doctrine, … mutatis mutandis, to explain race as a conditional. He says that Englishmen had no concept of white. But “white” is one attribute of the racial category of the human universal. His application of the medieval Latin phrase mutatis mutandis is incorrect. According to the literature, Englishmen as well as other races, clearly observed the self-evident and natural truth of different races. Color being one of many attributes.

    Indeed, volumes were written about the peoples of the new world and their distinctive features in contrast to the Anglo-Saxon race. These analyses were written by all the European races in their studies of the new world. There are no counter factuals; the attributes studied and recorded are just that, observable facts. To make the blanket statement that these peoples had no idea of their race as defined by at least one attribute, color is patently false.

    The authors understanding of arithmetic proportions is lacking. He states,” If we look at the percentages over time, the differences become even more striking. According to a report from The Brookings Institute: “In 1965, 24 percent of black infants and 3.1 percent of white infants were born to single mothers. By 1990 the rates had risen to 64 percent for black infants, 18 percent for whites.” This means, of course, that white illegitimacy is now higher than black illegitimacy was then. What does this tell us about race?” The answer is that it tells us nothing, but it does tell us a lot about cultural change.”

    There are undoubtedly several factors of causation, there usually is but the obvious and simple answer is proportional growth. As the population grows and causal factors have not been addressed the effects, that is black or white bastardization will grow proportionately. Nevertheless, under certain conditions, or lack of conditions black families have broken down disproportionately to whites. Is this inherent to their race? Perhaps or not, but the causality is pre-existing and has risen proportionately. The white proportions are correlated with nominal growth and blacks are exponential.

    I agree with the authors assertion that contraceptives and aggressive pornography are causal factors in societal degradation. It is simply a technique of the ruling elitists to undermine the morality of society and make them more docile and subservient. But societies have been through this situation many times and survive it. The more desperate elites get the more desperate their actions. The increased perversions explain a marginal rate of increase in bastardization but not conclusively.

    The word change is used to justify any adverse effect or action by the ruling despotism. But the word is often used incorrectly. Correctly said, cultural change is a cultural variation. Change occurs when the state of a thing changes to another state of the thing, such as from life to death, or wood to paper. Variations are mutations in between changes. Societal degradation is a variation, not a change. If the introduction of perversions into society was a change, then no humans would exist as the change is ultimately destructive. Society can re-vary by throwing off the yolk of tyranny and rebuilding its values base.

    It is undoubtedly true that there are forces attempting to create some type of multi-ethnic and anti-white society. The author asserts it is Jewish influence. I can’t comment, I have no data to support the contention one way or another. The authors transition from the “race is a fiction” argument to a Jewish conspiracy to subvert white Christendom appears ham handed. But again, I am out of my dept in this regard. But the fact that there is a distinct species of white and black races under the universal biological human is self-evident and beyond dispute, though not beyond debate.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
    , @geokat62
  183. Joodie 说:

    Anyone who is too cowardly to deal with the Jewish Question should shut up and go away. More and more our freedom of speech is being suppressed by Jewish interests and their perfidious Gentile allies.

  184. Ron Unz 说:

    For anyone interested, here’s a column I wrote on this topic about seven years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/does-race-exist-do-hills-exist/

  185. Vigilius 说:

    错误:过去的面相概念是类似的错误
    当今种族的概念。
    是的,种族是虚构的——新的。

  186. jamie b.: “Could you give an example [of Taylor twisting or even inventing facts]?

    There are plenty of examples in his essay here:

    https://www.amren.com/features/2013/09/a-brief-history-of-american-race-relations/

    他写道:

    我现在想谈谈废奴运动,我认为这是美国历史上最容易被误解的运动之一。 今天大多数美国人认为废奴主义者想要解放奴隶并使他们与白人平等。 一点也不。 绝大多数人希望释放奴隶并将他们送出美国,这一过程被他们称为殖民化。

    “A huge majority”? LOL. This is pure invention; an outrageous lie contradicted by the historical fact that, far from wanting to round up the negroes and eject them from the country, immediately after the Civil War white Christian America made them full citizens and gave them the vote.

    Taylor continues:

    Nor was the movement to free the slaves an early expression of a desire to disregard race. The vast majority of Americans, including Abraham Lincoln, favored abolition only if it led to colonization. William Lloyd Garrison and Angelina and Sarah Grimké were exceptions. The majority view was that of Henry Ward Beecher, brother of the author of Uncle Tom’s Cabin, who wrote, “Do your duty first to the colored people here; educate them[,] Christianize them, and then colonize them.”[xv]

    More lies; more twisting of the facts. The Beecher quote does indeed appear in one of his speeches collected in the volume 爱国地址, but the context makes it clear that Beecher’s meaning was the opposite of a desire to expel all the negroes. The Christian abolitionists, of which the Rev. Henry Ward Beecher was one of the most notorious, looked upon it as their religious duty to help their fellow Christians, the freed slaves, return to Africa, but only if they wanted to go. No one ever spoke in terms of rounding them all up and forcibly sending them all back for the benefit of whites! No, such a course of action would have been sinful. Henry Ward Beecher speaks directly to this. Quoted in context, in 爱国地址, on page 186:

    我是为了殖民。 如果有人愿意去非洲,我会给他去的途径,为了非洲大陆,殖民化是真正的计划; 但是,如果为我们着想鼓吹殖民,我说,撒但,让我落后于你,你不是在保护属于上帝的东西,而是属于那些属于人类的东西。 首先对这里的有色人种负责,对其进行教育,基督教化和 然后 殖民他们。

    So we see that even in the 19th century the Christian point of view was that whites having any racial concern for themselves was grievously immoral. “Get thee behind me, Satan!” he says to anyone so sinful as to think of white racial interests. The remainder of Rev. Beecher’s sermon is devoted to bemoaning the fact that the negroes have been treated, as he thinks, so unjustly, how they ought to be given the vote, be regarded as the equals of whites, and so on.

    Taylor’s treatment of Abraham Lincoln, which also appears in this essay in a passage immediately following the ones I quoted, is likewise a treasure trove of lies. Lincoln never had any plan to forcibly round up and expel the negroes, and indeed he was vehemently opposed to such a thing. It’s a matter of historical record that in his last public address before being assassinated, he called for them to be made citizens and given the vote.

    • 回复: @Jluker
  187. @G. Poulin

    动产奴隶是财产,而不是合同雇员……
    就像事后突然宣布农场动物的权利受到侵犯一样

    奴隶不是人。

    谢谢。 我这辈子都被骗了。

  188. jhan 说:

    它以“种族是虚构的”开头

    那时你知道你不必阅读它,因为它只包含废话。

  189. UR2 说:
    @Johnny Johnny

    Agreed. And race will only be harder to determine as time goes on. Our overlords are using race to conceal their wicked hand: to create hatred and violence and chaos. Their lying voice connected to every ear worldwide, that tremendously successfull propaganda project. Many of these commentors could stand to analyse what deceptions they have fallen for. I. Q. is laughable. Evolution is disproved by the hard facts of paleontology. Anyone who is believing that our DNA is mixed with neanderthal is also falling for the deceptions which are there for a reason. Those overlords are censoring actual scientists and allowing ONLY what they want us to think, to fool us. You all know that right? And if you can’t follow along with reasoning, like categories of the mind and catagories of nature, then maybe you should hit the books instead of typing out a comment.

    • 不同意: Robert Dolan
    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  190. Anonymous[111]• 免责声明 说:
    @Angharad

    RACE is real….A Biological/DNA reality…BUT the speakers are confusing words like RACE with Ethnicity…Nationality..Being Phillipino en the Phillipines is a nationality, Being Phillipino in the USA is an ethnicity..and Asian ethnic group….According to Medical drs even human organs have markers for Race…so that looking at a kidney a dr can tell weather it comes from a black or white person. I am puzzle when I see dark Italians/Greeks/Turkish being called whites..!!! and even more puzzled when I see Indians/Hindus being as dark/darker (than USA Blacks) and yet MUCH more succesful why? For me the whole debate is useless…for JEWS there are two categories Jews and NON jews…and we the goyim must act on those basis also. PD what is a Black born in Brazil? a Brazilian/AfroBrazilian/AfroAmericanBrazilian/AfrolatinAmericanBrazilian????? you see the debate is useless…in the NWOrder humanity will belong to two and only two categories JEWS/oligarchy vrs Goyim LABOR…

  191. Truth 说:
    @Angharad

    We Whites don’t 蜜蜂 any one else but each other.

    我用“l”和“r”尝试了这个词,然后我去掉了一个“e”,但都不合适。

    • 哈哈: ziggurat
    • 回复: @ziggurat
  192. @CelestiaQuesta

    The argument for identifying as white is the same as it would be for a dog that thinks it is a noble beast because its father was a wolf and its mother a poodle. That dog is nothing more than a mutt.

    We’re in this mess because America was and is a Masonic/Solomon’s Temple project that uses Satanic principles to spread the Great Reset/Globohomo agenda worldwide. But please, go ahead and keep worrying about maintaining your whiteness. Maintaining an acceptable variance in skin color is the answer to combating the agenda of https://www.weforum.org/partners and the (((leadership))) of the https://www.cfr.org/about

  193. Trinity 说:

    Is race a fiction? No. Are these two goobers debating really relevant? No

  194. @UR2

    IQ is solid science, real science.

    You can track success via IQ…..you can track crime with IQ.

    You might want to read “The Bell Curve” and then get back with me.

    • 回复: @UR2
  195. @Alexandros

    琼斯博士对希特勒保持沉默,这种沉默非常有趣。

    • 回复: @GeneralRipper
  196. Mike Tre 说:
    @Deep Thought

    被称为美洲印第安人的人类从亚洲迁移到北美。 从历史上的技术术语来看,他们与后来抵达的欧洲人相比,并不多多少少是本地人。

    The definition of the word “native” is “belonging to a place by birth.” So by definition, anyone born in America is “native,” but what makes a true “native American” is not a singular definition.

    First, when some 3incher’s 9 month pregnant wife arrives from China just in time to have a tourism baby, that baby is by law and definition a citizen and native, respectively. But racially, culturally, ethnically, and essentially, that baby is an alien.

    Secondly, Amerindians are not “Native Americans” because there was no America before Europeans arrived. America is a place of European creation, on a piece of land previously inhabited, by primitive humans who had yet to discover written word, and thus had no history before Europeans arrived. Amerindians made no distinction between sovereignty and savagery, occupation and ownership, or possession and property. Thus, ethnically, racially, and culturally, only Europeans can be “Native Americans.”

  197. 我同意天主教博主的这篇文章,他对琼斯博士提出异议:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/12/10/ethnos-needs-logos-and-genos/

    作为一名天主教徒,我希望迈克能够阅读并做出回应。

    也就是说,任何将琼斯视为二流智力的人都充满了这种想法。 但是,琼斯博士应该再次回应上面 OO 文章中的观点。

    我非常感谢琼斯博士揭露了泰勒恼人的亲犹太主义。 你们都应该阅读汉普顿·贾雷尔 (Hampton Jarrell) 的《韦德·汉普顿和黑人》(Wade Hampton and the Negro),看看当白人不允许犹太人支配我们的辩证法时,白人和黑人如何相处得更好。

  198. Jihadijew 说:
    @Trinity

    有趣的背景。

    I wonder if ADL or alike are going take any notice. Probably not. Just lion’s false teeth. Propaganda. how powerful the lobby really is! These parasites thrive on such overblown free press/propaganda. This obvious case will not be registered in Anti Semite counting machine.

    I hope someone who is a subscriber of The JewYork Times and Washington compost could put the link on their comments section. I am going to put this link in Zionist Ilana Mercer post in UNZ so she could pass on to all vultures with a click of a button.

    • 哈哈: Trinity
  199. @Mike Tre

    他们说“美洲原住民”(印第安人)大约在公元前 12,000 年从俄罗斯草原来到这里。 他们还在美国发现了可追溯到公元前 19,000 年的箭头。 这些箭头是在另一个地方发现的——现代法国,其历史可以追溯到公元前 22,000 年。 最重要的是,欧洲人民在冰河时代迁移到北美,跨越当时冰冻的大西洋。 他们被称为 Solutreans。 当他们到达时,“美洲原住民”对索卢特人进行了种族灭绝并与他们混在一起——因此他们的外表是白人和亚洲人的混合体。 因此,具有讽刺意味的是,在美洲原住民之前,欧洲人是北美的原始居民。 欧洲人收回了最初属于他们的东西。

  200. GeneralRipper [又名“狮鹫”] 说:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Yes, and of course Dr Jones and the rest of the “academics” would be just as comfortable living in a black majority area, since race is a fiction.

    • 哈哈: Trinity
  201. Maddaugh 说:

    I am sure I can find some Academic with a Phd to debate that a clump of shit with peanuts covered in hot chocolate and a spoon stuck in it………. is a sundae. With a little bit of prodding the fellow may also produce a 700 page earth shattering research paper for others to study.

    I think that for most whites they know they are white, that race is important and so is their culture. If anyone else of any other race want to classify themselves as this or that as is so fashionable these days, if they feel race is unimportant and their culture irrelevant, I dont really care.

    Hence, this debate and the 4600 word article means nothing to me and is just another useless turd being examined and debated by a bunch of idlers with not much else to do.

  202. When does Taylor get his go? Or did I miss something? Will there be a show of hands at the end?

  203. This is frightfully bad stuff by E. Michael Jones. It’s practically nonsensical. When I saw the title of this article I was very curious to read it and I would have appreciated a thoughtful defense of the position, but this is just gibberish.

    • 同意: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @Henry's Cat
    , @buckyinky
  204. J1234 说:

    I can appreciate that Dr. Jones is approaching this debate from a philosophical (and, at times, historical) perspective rather than the somewhat overused scientific perspective (that can devolve into pseudo-science.) However, as others have said, I remain unconvinced by his arguments at some essential level.

    I say this while admitting that I haven’t listened to the debate. I’m basing my opinions of 他的 opinions on statements from this article. Why haven’t I listened to the debate? Because I’m less interested in a discussion about whether race is real or not than I am in the current real-life power struggle between those two different perspectives. Specifically, I’m more interested in whether one of those perspectives can actually become so socially or politically powerful as to eliminate the other from all manner of discussion. It appears to me that this is the direction this “debate” is going, and that’s ultimately the real issue.

    The vast majority of people on the planet believe that the world is round and orbits around the sun, and I’m guessing that view didn’t become prevalent because astronomers all got together and used their influence to make it happen. After 1492 (or sometime thereabouts) the discussion became pretty well settled for obvious reasons. With this in mind, an enforced perspective is usually enforced because it lacks confidence in its ultimate truth (and no, fanaticism and confidence are not the same thing.) A lack of confidence doesn’t bode well for the credibility of any argumentative perspective.

    Whether the “race is fiction” perspective comes from a thoughtful person like Dr. Jones, or a hivest brained antifa type, here’s what I have to do to buy into it: I have to believe that my eyes are constantly deceiving me with regards to one of the most general trends of human ancestry. If I’m walking down the street, I can’t tell for sure who has heart disease and who doesn’t, who is artistically gifted and who isn’t, who is smart and who isn’t, and those are all profoundly important traits.

    I can only tell three basic biological characteristics relatively accurately (in most cases): Whether the person is male or female, their general age and what continent their distant ancestors came from in a general sense. When these three traits have the prominence in individuals to convey this kind of information at ten paces, it’s plausible that they would come with secondary traits that go along with essential traits. Yes…some 80 year olds can run marathons. Yes…some women can bench press two hundred pounds. But we all know the general tendencies in this regard. Pretending that we don’t for moral reasons is – quite ironically – very immoral (for as long as honesty is a part of morality.)

    To be fair – and more importantly, honest – it’s probably true that there is less variance between groups of people based on race than there is based on gender or great differences in age, but there are racial differences. That’s not something to be ashamed of.

  205. Anonymous[466]• 免责声明 说:
    @White Elephant

    如果美国人由各种肤色的人组成,那么说黑人不能是波兰人就是短视、无知和傲慢。 事情变了。 为什么只允许美国人包含多种颜色?

    • 回复: @White Elephant
  206. @follyofwar

    I believe that Mr. Goad was cultivating a Harold Lloyd look when he did that debate with Jones.

  207. Anonimko 说:

    In which language the word ‘race’ originated and what is its meaning?

    • 回复: @Smith
  208. Fur baby 说:
    @Trinity

    Your onto something there… English and protestants did arrive first and did some serious building and conquering of land often using others to work it.

    I suppose Europeans such as the Irish Molly McGuires getting killed in coal mines or the Italians, Poles, and others being exploited to death in horrible work conditions in mills, mines railroads didn’t contribute to the greatness of the nation. Let’s suppose your correct and it’s the WASP who built the country and who we owe the biggest debt of gratitude towards.

    Then it can be deduced that it’s only fair that the wealthy privileged descendants of those WASPs who remain large land owners and titans of industry be the people specifically singled out to atone for any injustices and to pay out any reparations that are now being demanded by the groups who claim to have been used and abused by them.

    I think we need to be cautious when going down unknown roads because they can lead potentially into dead ends or worse over cliffs.

  209. @Anonymous

    “如果美国人由各种肤色的人组成,那么说黑人不能是波兰人就是短视、无知和傲慢。”

    LOL
    那么告诉我,如果我在苹果园里种一棵梨树,它会变成苹果树吗?
    那棵树结果子是梨还是苹果?

    要成为波兰民族,您必须属于种族。 你可以是外国人,住在波兰,说波兰语,但你永远不能成为波兰人。 为什么? 常识表明,要允许某物,而不是某物成为某物,您就否定了某物存在的概念。 如果梨可以是苹果,苹果可以是梨,那么就没有必要将一个定义为苹果或梨,因为两者都不存在,因为另一个抵消了另一个的存在。

    黑人不是白种人。 波兰人永远只能是白种人。 因此,黑人不可能是波兰人。

    你要么得到它,要么你不明白。

    至于美国? 好吧,我不想告诉你,但美国不是一个国家。 当它授予奴隶公民身份成为美国人的那一刻,他们再次摧毁了这个国家,因为不属于那种东西的东西不可能是那种东西。 如果你相信它,你就否定了那个东西的存在。 美国是一个多种族、多民族、全球化的国家。 您无法将美国与任何欧洲国家进行比较。 两者完全不同。

    你要么得到它,要么你不明白。
    我不是来辩论我刚刚写的真理。
    如果你想争论一个黑人是否可以成为波兰人,请联系白痴 EMJ,你可以坐下来讨论你的荒谬信仰,直到 EMJ 变黑你变白。 无论哪种方式,我对你们两个要说的话都不感兴趣。

    • 同意: Fur baby
    • 回复: @Anonymous
  210. Truth 说:
    @Trinity

    Then you’re not a Christian, you’re a “white guy.”

    基督教对于你是谁来说要么是基本的,主要是不可或缺的,要么你不是。

  211. GeneralRipper [又名“狮鹫”] 说:
    @Angharad

    天主教徒完全反对白人。

    Actually a majority of American Catholics voted for Trump.

    Catholics have ALWAYS been anti-abortion and anti- pornography etc…

    The first legal abortion clinic in the US was started by a white Baptist “minister”.

    The Catholic Church actually favored the Confederacy during the War of Northern Aggression. Even though the Pope did not recognize them, he did not recognize the “Union” either.

  212. Truth 说:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Michael shrieks out:”but..but I am not European…my daughters are not European..”

    I would estimate from being here, that a slight majority of Unzistas has done the latter by marrying Asians.

  213. @Angharad

    “Catholics are totally Anti White.”

    Sadly….there is some truth to this.

    Catholics tend to be loony liberals (and I know quite a few of them)

    And liberalism is a cover for the naked self interest of the jews.

    Years ago, WASPS and Catholics were enemies, and there is some lingering resentment yet today.

    The idiot whites on the Supreme Court are Catholics and they seem to make anti-white decisions very consistently.

    However, I do not think that EMJ is anti-white.

    • 回复: @GeneralRipper
    , @Trinity
  214. Jluker 说:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    摩根博士

    I commend on your impassioned reply, however your facts are simply erroneous in assessing Mr. Taylor’s essay. I will respond directly to your responses.

    1. ““A huge majority”? LOL. This is pure invention; an outrageous lie contradicted by the historical fact that, far from wanting to round up the negroes and eject them from the country, immediately after the Civil War white Christian America made them full citizens and gave them the vote.”

    This is patently false. Christian America did not give anyone anything. They were too busy burying a million dead and paying for a perpetual debt. The committee of 15 on reconstruction drafted and a pretend congress illegally ratified the 14th amendment that created a national citizen class repugnant to the Constitution for the United States of America over the objections of all the Southern states, Ohio, Delaware, Maryland and New Jersey. It is an illusion that blacks or anyone else has suffrage in national elections. Indeed blacks were confiscated as contraband of war under the 1863 Confiscation Act. There status after the illegal 14th Amendment is wards of the municipal government in Washington (House Congressional Record, June 13, 1967).

    Even a cursory examination of the periodicals, letters and books, beginning with the charter of the American Colonization Society c. 1816, reveals a clear majority of the people South and North supported colonization of emancipated bond servants and freedmen to Africa. It was Thomas Jefferson in 1777 who proposed the establishment of a colony for freedmen in the western lands which was Southern strategy even after the end of the war in 1865. It was the so-called abolitionists who attacked and ultimately prevented freed and bonded-servants from possessing their own wealth and political states. Instead their goal and what they achieved was the abolition of the constitution of 1787 and European colonization in Africa (M.Carrey, Letters on the Colonization Society, etc., April 26, 1832).

    2. ” Lincoln never had any plan to forcibly round up and expel the negroes, and indeed he was vehemently opposed to such a thing.”

    Again, patently false or intentionally misleading. The quote your responding to never used the word “force.” It is irrelevant in any case. Force was not a requirement to colonize blacks to Africa, yet Lincoln was a life long proponent, to wit:

    -December 31, 1862, Lincoln connected his name to a document that many of his adherents and later apologists would gladly forget: a contract with Bernard Kock, an ambitious and unscrupulous venturer, to use federal funds to remove some five thousand black men, women, and children from the United States to a small island off the coast of Haiti. It was Lincoln’s last effort at colonizing blacks outside the United States, executed only one day before he was to sign the illegal emancipation proclamation.

    -Lincoln first proclaimed an interest in colonization during his eulogy for Henry Clay in 1852, when he admitted his allegiance to the esteemed Kentuckian’s dual creed of gradual emancipation coupled with colonization. If slavery could be eliminated and the slaves returned to “their long-lost fatherland,” claimed Lincoln, “it will indeed be a glorious consummation.” Impressed by Lincoln’s commitment to colonization, the members of the Illinois Colonization Society repeatedly asked him to speak at their meetings, and he obliged them in 1853 and again in 1855.

    -Francis P. Blair, Jr., of Missouri, a longtime advocate of colonization, defended Lincoln’s policy in the House of Representatives. On April 12, 1862, the day after slavery was abolished in Washington, D.C., Blair admitted that Liberia had “failed to attract the freed negro population in any considerable numbers,” but proclaimed his optimism about the possibility of Negro colonization in Central America. “There is a vast difference,” he said, “between the idea of being colonized on our own continent, under our own flag, and being buried in Africa.” Blair not only believed in colonization as a remedy to present and future racial hostilities, but also well understood how the promise of colonization could help undercut the political power of slaveholders in the Confederacy: “We can make emancipation acceptable to the whole mass of non-slave-holders at the South by coupling it with the policy of colonization. The very prejudice of race which now makes the non-slaveholders give their aid to hold the slave in bondage will induce them to unite in a policy which will rid them of the presence of negroes.” The arguments of Blair in the House and Doolittle in the Senate helped lead to a congressional appropriation of \$100,000 to be used by the president for colonizing the freedmen of the District.

    -Three months later, on July 16, 1862, Congress appropriated \$500,000 more for the colonization of any other freedmen under the Second Confiscation Act, which allowed military commanders to confiscate as contraband of war the bond servants or slaves as held by Confederate civilians. Thus, only six months after suggesting a colonization policy, Lincoln had received \$600,000 in congressional appropriations.

    Though hardly comprehensive these three facts alone disabuse any notion that Lincoln was an emancipator or even liked blacks. It is simply historical fact that he loathed blacks and desperately wanted them out of the country. But not for the same reasons as the founders of the American Colonization Society, who sought to give blacks their own nation. As for the vote, that is hardly a boon as it matters nothing to anyone black or white as the so-called 14th amendment, actually an article of the newly revised constitution has substance only by force and not as an organic act of the people.

    • 谢谢: mark green
    • 回复: @S
  215. @Trinity

    Agree. The “Church” in America is a whited sepulchre full of dead mens’ bones, just like the Pharisees Jesus denounced in the Bible, they want to get new members and when they do they make them as bad off as themselves.

    A megachurch or some group brought over a Chinese underground pastor a few years ago, and after a month or so of touring America and seeing our churches, he was asked what he thought, and he said “I’m amazed how much the church in America can accomplish without God.”

    The churches are so blind it is incredible.

  216. Nancy 说:
    @Bernie

    Has anyone read Jones’ ‘Slaughter of Cities’ about the deliberate disbanding of ethnic neighborhoods in Philadelphia, using the ‘weaponizing’ of civil rights (by the Talmud Termites) to introduce the black culture?

  217. GeneralRipper [又名“狮鹫”] 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    The idiot whites on the Supreme Court are Catholics and they seem to make anti-white decisions very consistently.

    And who made up the the majority of the Supreme Court during the bulk of this Nation’s history?

    This “blame it on the Catholics” stuff is pretty funny.

    America is a thoroughly Protestant nation. It’s not Mexico or Italy or Spain.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  218. anon[985]• 免责声明 说:
    @anarchyst

    Africans thrive under a “strongman” type of dictatorial structure where “the man at the top” makes all major decisions for the tribe.

    Russia was run on similar system for over a millennium.

    Except that — Africans had local “dictators,” tribal chiefs.

    Not sure if there was a hierarchy of dictators in Russian society.
    The Orthodox Church had tremendous power, not quite Vatican but very closely linked to up-most echelons of Russian government.

    African tribal chiefs = similar to bishops similar to rabbis?

  219. Erikassimo 说:

    First off, we need more debates, splendidly done!

    However, too many words to describe something very simple. The purpose of a living organism is to reproduce. Hence, more lojalty to closer related people. Thats all. So, “race” is important if you have proximity to a lot of people of another “race”. If you do not, ethnicity, if not, clan. Simple, no?

  220. Dr. Doom 说:

    Jared Taylor is a race mixer himself and therefore has no claim to White nationalism.
    The Jews created Critical Race Theory or Racial Marxism to attack Whites.

    Whites are unique in that they fight against slavery.
    Slavery is what the end goal of Jews actually is really.

    Global slavery where 2800 slaves for every Jew “serves” them.
    Probably up for dinner since neither Jews nor browns can FARM.

    The Jew is the enemy of ALL LIFE. They are delusional.
    Their attempts at control end up wrecking and building NOTHING.

    The Jews must be destroyed before they kill everyone with their delusions.
    They are NOT SANE or rational therefore talking to them is pointless.

  221. Smith 说:
    @Anonimko

    From French, also written as “race”. So it probably comes from Latin.

    It means people sharing the same ancestors/descent.

  222. @GeneralRipper

    你完全是fos。

    This used to be a Protestant nation but that is LONG gone.

    I stand by what I said. The SC is Catholics and jews and they screw up every decision….no, let me correct that….they DELIBERATELY make decisions to harm white people…..I could list a dozen such decisions off the top of my head.

    Dumbass Ted Kennedy was the shabbos goy that helped the jews open the borders to wreck our country.

    Like I said, I know quite a few Catholics and they are ALL loony liberals, and this makes ZERO sense if you simply consider the single topic of abortion.

    I bet if I did a quick search regarding the worst of the shabbos goy shitheads in public office…..slimeballs that helped the jews’ subversive agenda…..the majority would probably be Catholics.

    Catholics have had a hard on for WASPS for a very long time. It’s not front and center anymore, but it’s still there.

    The Catholic Church has been totally subverted…the current Pope should be crowned the Head Shabbos of Globohomo.

    As I’ve been writing this….I’ve thought about all of the Catholics I know, some of whom are in my own family, and NONE of them are conservatives.

    • 回复: @GeneralRipper
  223. Jluker 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    Thankyou for the references. I will review them with great interest.

  224. Richard B 说:
    @AndrewR

    Idk about how the CCP is doing this

    I think the rest of your comment captures perfectly what I was referring to (regarding the Chinese) in my previous comment.

    • 回复: @AndrewR
  225. GeneralRipper [又名“狮鹫”] 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    No Robert YOU are totally full of shit, my friend.

    It’s so fucking obvious a kindergartner could comprehend it.

    America was founded by Protestants. A particularly virulent weirdo brand of the strain, to be exact. Puritans. And it goes without saying that they were completely enamored with Jews and the Old Testament.

    I don’t suppose you realize how fucking ridiculous you sound yakking about how Catholics ruined America, if you take the time to investigate how many Catholics have been Presidents or Senators or Congressmen or SUPREME COURT JUSTICES etc…etc… during it’s history.

    Maryland was the one and only Catholic colony, and the Protestants pretty much took it over in short order.

    We hear lots of bullshit about Catholics and immigration. As if the shit tons of weirdo Protty universalist cult fucks haven’t been doing the exact same thing for at least as long as the Catholics, if not sooner.

    Get a grip, do some reading and grow up.

    • 同意: Fur baby
    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  226. nickels 说:

    我所知道的是,我宁愿生活在一个充满乡下人、东正教埃塞俄比亚人、南方浸信会黑人和天主教西班牙裔的国家,那里有一群无神论犹太人、蓝发胖白女同性恋、毛茸茸的马克思主义白人和犹太人等等……等等。 ……

    我绕来绕去。

    E 迈克尔琼斯的观点是正确的和基督教的,但感觉很危险。

    贾里德泰勒的观点是愤世嫉俗的,陷入了令人讨厌的进化论胡说八道,但可以描述战争的发展方向。

    我很欣赏这场辩论,这是一次多么美妙的交流。 我觉得我目睹了一些非常文明的事情,值得欧洲基督教伟大传统的事情。

  227. nickels 说:

    是的,当 EMJ 指出 Jared Taylor 基本上是为了 Yid 的利益而培养白人民族主义时,EMJ 的视频结尾绝对是致命的打击。
    我不敢相信那个愚蠢的主持人试图审查 EMJ。
    什么垃圾。
    EMJ 是对的。
    贾里德是一个犹太人的韦纳傻瓜。 小主人也是。

  228. nickels 说:

    我认为显而易见的事情是贾里德泰勒不是白人。 他知道自己不是白人。
    贾里德·泰勒是一名黄蜂女。
    而且,作为一个 WASP,他知道他必须吮吸 jew root 才能得到他的 \$。

    WASP 是垃圾。 WASP 摧毁了美国,并对阻止美国坠入深渊的民族进行了大规模种族清洗; 天主教徒。

    希特勒可能是 [电子邮件保护]@hole,但是他没有把它们从地球上抹去真是太遗憾了。

    • 回复: @Sin City Milla
  229. Hibernian 说:
    @White Elephant

    是的,无论血统如何,属于任何国家所需的两件事是皈依天主教并能够说该国家的语言。

    皈依天主教与属于一个 天主教的 民族,即波兰。

  230. UR2 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    It is solid as you can track success and crime by it but what it actually measures and how that is connected with race is, as you know, very complex. The existence of any high intelligence black such as Clarence Thomas defeats the idea of innate inferiority.

    • 不同意: Robert Dolan
    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  231. Hibernian 说:
    @HenryB

    He mentioned Irish and German heritage, which does not rule out the possibility he also has Welsh heritage. Not all Catholics have surnames like Gallo or Kowalski.

    • 回复: @HenryB
  232. @GeneralRipper

    You are a dipshit dumbass, and you have ZERO intellectual integrity.

    Sorry I offended you, you nation wrecking LOSER.

    The number one nation wreckers are jews.

    The number two nation wreckers are Catholics.

    Catholic churches have gone out of their way to assist “refugees.” This is WELL KNOWN by anyone involved in immigration activism. (I’ve been an immigration activist for the last fifteen years and have risked life and limb on the FRONT LINES)

    Catholics are shabbos goy SELLOUTS, as disloyal as the slimy jews they work for.

    https://catholicmigration.org/about-catholic-migration-services/

    https://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/our-vision-and-ministry/immigration-refugee-services/

    https://uscatholic.org/articles/201702/why-the-catholic-church-stands-with-refugees/
    https://catholiccharities.org/supporting-refugees-immigrants/

    https://www.thecompassnews.org/2021/08/a-call-to-assist-afghan-refugees/

    https://catholiccharitiesla.org/assist-immigrants-and-refugees/
    https://www.catholicextension.org/stories/5-catholic-ministries-helping-migrants-border/

  233. Jungle Fever and Jungle Faith will destroy the West.

  234. The long debate didn’t resolve the central question of the Jews. Taylor, a soft spoken guy, avoids it completely and Jones, the abrasive one, wallows in it. Nevertheless, until the Jewish question is resolved, the downward trajectory of the European ethnic groups as a singular unit will not abate for they’re after the jugular and like a leopard that has caught a gazelle midair and won’t let it go, the Jew isn’t about to let go the one thing that has made him supreme in the affairs of the Western civilization.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  235. S 说:
    @Jluker

    Thanks for an informative and well thought out post.

    It was the so-called abolitionists who attacked and ultimately prevented freed and bonded-servants from possessing their own wealth and political states.

    It would be interesting to know what a financial forensic analysis of the US abolition movement, largely centered in New England (in particular Massachusetts) might find if it was conducted. Did large amounts of financial support come from New England industrialists, often early on being textile producers, and banks, even London banks perhaps?

    I’ve posted previously how Lawrence ‘Immigrant City’, Mass, and it’s infamous sister city, the ‘abolition center’ of Lawrence, KS, had each had their mid 19th century construction financed by the same Lawrence family of Massachusetts textile factory magnates.

    I’ve also posted the 1863 London economic calculations of former ‘Bleeding Kansas’ territorial governor Robert Walker, who was the financial representative of the Lincoln administration in London mid-war. Walker’s calculations had been republished in a March, 1864, US journal as part of a ‘why we fight’ article for Northern consumption.

    Taking numerous variables into account, Walker had compared the productivity of chattel slave dependent South Carolina with wage slave (ie cheap labor/mass immigration, so called) dependent Massachusetts, and had effectively found that Mass wage slave labor was four times more productive.

    The New England textile plant owners no doubt hated paying the incredibly expensive and inefficient chattel slave labor costs which picked the cotton which in turn fed their New England textile mills. They wanted a recalcitrant South to adopt the wage slave (cheap labor so called) system, as exemplified by Massachusetts’s ‘Immigrant City’.

    I think these industrialists original intent was that after the Civil War concluded the former Black chattel slaves would stay in situ on the Southern plantations, now as wage slaves, being paid far below what they would be if they were Anglo-Saxons, ie anything but anything than pay your own the prevailing real time local labor costs.

    If these same New England textile plant owners were financially sponsoring the abolitionists, it might explain the abolitionists opposition to the African slaves being returned to their Motherland.

    • 回复: @Jluker
  236. E.Michael Jones is a beautiful and clarifying wordsmith of the English language.
    I found the debate with Jared Taylor very stimulating, and E.M.J.’s thesis that “race is a product of the mind” creditably argued. I took note that E.M.J.’s devout Catholicism has imbued him with a fearlessness with regard to the question of Jewish power.
    The “race realism” of Jared Taylor is compelling, but there is no doubting that it has been contrived as an ideological weapon. Its adherents shout menacingly, but with their backs to the wall.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  237. AndrewR 说:
    @Richard B

    Glad you think so.

    There is a tendency from some in our circles to refuse to condemn China for anything because China is allegedly our ally against ZOG. One would think this argument is ludicrous on it’s face, but apparently not.

    ZOG and the CCP work together whenever they need to, as would be expected. ZOG is stronger for now but this won’t last long. CCP’s long term goal is total global domination, but some so-called “pro-white” advocates deny this out of some sort of pseudo-Jewish pilpul, or just pure childish opposition to any GOP-adjacent beliefs.

  238. GeneralRipper [又名“狮鹫”] 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    Robert, I really hate to rain on your parade, but I’d have say that you are delusional if you believe that American Catholics have ever wielded a fraction of the political power of either Protestants or Jews in the US.

    Let’s look at the religious breakdown of the Courts, the Congress and the Executive in the last 75 years for starters.

    I’m only going back that far to be generous, mind you.

    Your premise is silly and emotionally overwrought and does not stand up to scrutiny.

    For every Kennedy or Biden or Pelosi or Roberts, I can reel off ten or more white Protestants and Jews who have done the exact same if not worse.

    I might add that it’s rather convenient that Protestants are diced up into so many different retarded universalist cults…lol

    Much more difficult to pin down as compared to those Catholics, heh?

    Taken as a whole, the Catholic contribution to US history is an OVERWHELMINGLY positive and patriotic one. That much is certain.

    You would do well to examine your own “intellectual integrity”.

    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
  239. Liosnagcat 说:

    Race is a poor word for this discussion, as it is subject to too many interpretations (e.g., ethnicity, language, culture, etc.), as EMJ’s strained arguments have shown us.

    The proper taxonomical term is sub-species.

    Sub-Saharan Africans differ from Eurasians by more than just skin color & the shapes of their noses, Mr. Jones; they differ in scores of traits spanning categories such as hard and soft tissue, reproductive strategy, behavior, diseases, intelligence and civilizational characteristics.

    There are several different methods of determining whether or not life forms belong to he same subspecies, or species for that matter, and they are all, at some point, contradictory and rife with exceptions. All, that is, except genetic distance, a determination made possible by the advances in DNA analysis. By this measure, sub-Saharan Africans are not merely easily categorized as a different sub-species from Eurasians; their genetic distance from the rest of humanity qualifies them as a different species all together.

    EMJ’s strained, pilpul arguments denying this simple reality are, sadly, characteristic of the Jews of which he is so critical.

    While it is refreshing to see Jared Taylor (gradually) come to terms with the Jewish question, it would be far more gratifying to see EMJ abandon the Jewish mindset to which he has become enslaved. Race as a social construct indeed!

  240. Anonymous[466]• 免责声明 说:
    @White Elephant

    What’ s a Pole? Even your Pole is, if you go back far enough, comprised of different tribes. Same for every nation[ I bectcha]. In a few hundred years if there were to be a significant amount of Black skinned people or people who are part Black, who self identify as Poles , [ assuming Poland exists as a country] there would be nothing un Pole or controversial about outsiders recognizing a dark skinned Pole as a Pole. Just like there’s nothing un Italian about either dark skinned Italians or light skinned Italians .
    If they’re’ speaking Polish and Poland is a country, they’re Poles! Poles whose ancestors were of different tribes, colors “races”. That’s how all ethnicities emerge. Ethnicities keep emerging as people keep migrating. Today people speak English in England. Yet once some people there spoke French. Before that Romans there spoke Latin . You had Celts speaking Celtic. Different tribes intermingled and became one nation state speaking one language. What emerged is called the English! The color or original tribes, [ethnicities] the ancestors came from gets lost to history once you have a named unique identifying group united as one tribe or nation state, by language[usually].Today most people regard Indians from India living in England as more English then say a child of an Iraqi refugee. Why or how is that? because over time and much cross influence, Indians from India are part and parcel of todays Englishness. Iraqis no but in a hundred years or so if they keep coming in, that could happen too.

  241. @Australian Lady

    No….race realism has not been “contrived” in any way.

    In fact, race realism was common knowledge prior to jewish subversion in the early 20th century starting with Boas ad other slimy marxist liars.

    I’ve posted world maps that correlate race/IQ with GDP and race/IQ with crime.

    “The Bell Curve” deals with race and IQ. Your 90 IQ cannot refute it.

    Medicine supports race differences as races respond differently to medications, and races are prone to different kinds of diseases.

    You appear to be rather obtuse. The ideological weaponry comes from organized jewry and their unlimited supply of cash…..it has nothing to do with truth.

  242. Liosnagcat 说:
    @Malcolm X

    废话。

    Sub-Saharan Africans are of a primitive species, related to but not belonging to the rest of humanity. The American descendants of slaves have it better than any group of blacks anywhere else in the world. Their reparations consist of their being allowed to remain in the US after slavery was abolished, and, in retrospect, that was too high a price for the US to have paid for the “privilege” of their company.

  243. @GeneralRipper

    You talk about doing a breakdown…..and then you provide nothing.

    就像我说的,你的智力完整性为零。

    In fact, you harm your bullshit argument by listing Catholic sellouts….Pelosi…..Biden…..Kennedy…..Roberts…..

    不错的工作!

    让我加上 John Boehner 和 Paul Ryan,两个卑鄙的狗屎,你应该被包括在内。

    在大多数情况下,天主教徒是愚蠢的左翼犹太人。 我认识的所有天主教徒都是虚伪的低贱人渣。

    They vote LEFT, always, they virtue signal, they preen, they pretend to be sooooooooooo moral…..
    因为他们帮助做犹太人的工作来帮助破坏国家。

    Fuck off. You’re an asshole. You are not able to deal with the truth. Sorry for being so uncharitable,
    但是你的谎言让我很生气。

    I bet EMJ would be the first to agree with what I have said, as he is well aware of the jewish subversion of the Catholic church…..while you prefer to pretend that Catholics are pure as the driven snow.

    Oh! Dumbass! I gave a LONG list of the filthy Catholic groups helping to import “refugees” and help the jewish nation wreckers. You ignored it. Why would you ignore it? Because you have no fucking way to defend such malicious DISLOYALTY.

    • 同意: profnasty
    • 哈哈: Truth
  244. Shel100 说:

    If race is a fiction how does the Congressional Black Caucus choose its members?

    • 回复: @Liosnagcat
  245. “race is a fiction, by which I mean that race category of the mind which gets imposed for political purposes. ”

    Race is something which can be detected genetically and by facial-recognition AI. Unless genes and computers have political motivations, your proposition fails by definition.

    • 回复: @anon
  246. GeneralRipper [又名“狮鹫”] 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    LOL

    You’re upset and probably drinking.

    I understand that the truth hurts. but you really need to settle down, Robert.

  247. HenryB 说:
    @Hibernian

    ….or English heritage. The man is absurd as are his abstractions. He also tells lies. I’m not a fan of Taylor.

  248. anon[221]• 免责声明 说:
    @gutta percha

    Race is something which can be detected genetically and by facial-recognition AI.

    Even more fundamentally, forensic pathologists can look at bones that have been dug up out of the ground & state which race the dead person happened to be.

    E. Mike Jones is a midwit.

  249. Trinity 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    Good point about the Supreme Court. hahaha. My brother is Catholic and it isn’t as if I am anti-Catholic but I am all for THE TRUTH.

    I have already mentioned the Vietnamese and Laotians I knew who were brought over here AND SET UP BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, but the Protestant churches are becoming just as bad. Seeing all those East Indians milling around a Catholic church was surreal, man.

    What I find WEIRD about the Catholic church is how they worship a man of flesh and blood like the Pope. He is only a man, a man that goes around and kisses Black feet I might add. smdh.

    This whole “debate” is Jewish horseshit. Kind of like “Hispanics are natural conservatives.” You retards who believe this go out to California and vote for Larry Elder. Hell, that is what leftist and POC do, they travel to different states and vote. lololol. White people, man. WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN.

    To be fair, many Protestant churches have become just as bad with their sappy worship of the PHONY Jew doctrine of worshiping POC and helping them over their White brothers and sisters in need. Doesn’t the Bible say something along the lines that a man who will help outsiders before his family is worse than an infidel?

  250. UR2 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    You both are resorting to disgraceful language thereby degrading your points of view; furthermore l am embarressed for us in front of the Australian Lady. A main point you are missing is that Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy, etc., are not actual Catholics. They have all incured automatic excommunication when they publically supported abortion and they know that. Their “catholicism” is a farce put forward to fool unsuspecting voters or to try to gain moral credence.

    • 回复: @anon
  251. You have no answer for this….because it’s indefensible, traitorous, disloyal.

    https://catholicmigration.org/about-catholic-migration-services/

    https://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/our-vision-and-ministry/immigration-refugee-services/

    https://uscatholic.org/articles/201702/why-the-catholic-church-stands-with-refugees/
    https://catholiccharities.org/supporting-refugees-immigrants/

    https://www.thecompassnews.org/2021/08/a-call-to-assist-afghan-refugees/

    https://catholiccharitiesla.org/assist-immigrants-and-refugees/
    https://www.catholicextension.org/stories/5-catholic-ministries-helping-migrants-border/

    As I said, I’m an immigration activist. And all of the activists know what the Catholic church has done in regards to helping the jews with their open borders/nation wrecking agenda.
    I can list countless Catholic groups engaged in “refugee resettlement.” Truly despicable behavior….every bit as bad as the HIAS.

    No….you can’t justify this, so you will ignore it and pretend you didn’t see it.

    Catholics are jewbrained retards, for the most part. They vote 75% left. One of the primary reasons that the countries south of the border are so fucked up is because they are Catholic/marxist strongholds.

    I’m dealing with the awful truth here…..but you’re triggered (and not very bright) so you take it personally.

    If you had half a brain, you’d listen and maybe try to do something to change the diabolical policies of the Catholic church. But that would be too much work.

    • 哈哈: Truth
  252. It’s common knowledge in the anti-immigration movement that the Catholic church is a major offender to the defense of national sovereignty.

    The Catholic leadership wants butts in the pews, and they do not CARE what race is tithing on Sunday.

    So….the Catholic church is complicit with the jews in the effort to open the borders of every western nation.

    When not actively engaged in sodomizing young boys, Catholic bishops are devising new and ever more clever ways to fill the pews by promoting massive third world immigration.

    So, if you get down to it….the Catholic church is anti-white, and is actively engaged in the destruction of Christendom.

  253. @nickels

    希特勒可能是 [电子邮件保护]@hole,但他没有将它们从地球表面抹去真是太遗憾了

    向我展示他曾经想要或尝试过的证据。 大屠杀神话只不过是战时宣传,盟军认为如果没有巨大的政治代价,他们无法收回,因为他们将不得不承认他们无缘无故地开始了二战。

    • 回复: @Truth
    , @nickels
  254. @Trinity

    Yeah, but WHITES BUILT AMERICA UP FROM NOTHING. The Black, Brown, Yellow and Jew have done little if anything to contribute to the building of this nation other than leeching off Whitey.

    The whites are the biggest leechers:

    事实上,这种做法不应该让人感到意外,因为美国持续的种族紧张局势,由警官德里克·肖万 (Derek Chauvin) 残酷杀害乔治·弗洛伊德 (George Floyd) 开始,暴露了这个国家的本色,而这个国家的实力建立在来自非洲的奴隶回到原属于土著人民的土地,这些人现在居住在保留地,对从他们手中夺走的土地没有实际影响。

    催生了所谓“新世界”的白人至上主义身份,似乎不仅是美国与非白人居民(包括亚裔美国人)内部交往的惯用伎俩,也是美国对外交往的惯用伎俩。中王国。

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/china-needs-realism-not-wishful-thinking-on-us/

  255. “Critical Race Theory is based on sociology; white racism is based on biology, but both ideologies are forms of identity theft which manipulate categories of the mind for political purposes.”

    Uhhh CRT is the immediate response to ‘racism’ which would mean that it is dealing with biology if one juxtaposes one against the other

    However, that is me granting some salience to this rather complex mash of rhetoric. Failing to explicate the self serving meanings that shift from advocacy to in time and space of what is meany by race it’s safe to say — sense making of this article is a trifle hard

    but both racism and crt are deciphering the meaning as to the socialization of people via skin color. (by passing the game played about how its more than that.)

  256. 天主教会完全腐败,支持全球性和西方文明的破坏。

    天主教会不支持国家主权,而是支持犹太国际主义。

    边界以南的许多国家如此垃圾的主要原因是因为它们是天主教/马克思主义的据点。

    天主教领导层决定,在周日将屁股放在座位上并通过什一税增加收入比尊重任何特定国家的边界​​更重要。

    因此,从这个角度来看,天主教会是反白人的,实际上是在帮助犹太人摧毁整个基督教世界。

    • 回复: @Jack McArthur
  257. Jluker: “[Y]our facts are simply erroneous in assessing Mr. Taylor’s essay. I will respond directly to your responses. ”

    Your verbose reply provides only more concealment of the reality that it was white, Christian America that gave negroes the vote and citizenship. You make the usual whiny response that the citizenry was somehow strongly against this, and yet we must note that they had just fought a protracted and bloody war which achieved just this objective. More, they also had plenty of time to reverse course and repeal those Amendments, but never did. In fact, white Christian America never made even the slightest effort to do so. How do you explain this if they were as opposed to them as you claim? You can’t, because they obviously weren’t.

    You follow this up with even more squid ink, writing “Force was not a requirement to colonize blacks to Africa …”. This is delusional; completely laughable. 当然 it was a requirement for any serious effort to rid the country of negroes, as the ineffectual results of Lincoln’s completely unserious “efforts” at “colonization” show. It should be obvious to anyone who has studied the matter that Lincoln expected such efforts to fail, and only undertook them as a political sop to Christians like Beecher, who felt it was their religious duty to serve the negroes, and help them return to Africa if they so wished. Lincoln was canny enough to know that few of them would. That’s obviously why, in his last public address, Lincoln proposed giving them citizenship and the vote! It’s clear he had harbored such opinions for a long time.

    “我的朋友们,我一直想拘留你,我只想说,让我们抛弃所有关于这个男人和另一个男人的争论-这个种族以及那个种族和另一个种族次等,因此,它们必须置于劣等地位–丢弃我们离开我们的标准。 让我们抛弃所有这些东西,在这片土地上团结成一个人,直到我们再次站起来宣布所有的人都是平等的。”
    –亚伯拉罕·林肯(Abraham Lincoln),10年1858月XNUMX日在芝加哥致辞

    基督教本身是种族平等主义的,所以一个基督教国家得出这个结论是很自然的,而且可以预见的是,像林肯这样试图呼吁他们投票的政治家应该迎合他们的信仰。

    Taylor’s lies at least lack your tedious prolixity.

  258. geokat62 说:
    @Jluker

    The author asserts it is Jewish influence. I can’t comment, I have no data to support the contention one way or another.

    Read The Culture of Critique.

  259. JM 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    True. And I’m pretty old and this category wasn’t generally used in Australia till the last couple of decades. The native people were commonly identified by their origins – ‘aboriginal’/’aborigines’. And in the public school I was educated in, the message was respect for them as an almost mystical people highly adapted to their environment. I used to get a feeling of their presence in the bush when I ventured there. Hatred was non existent. Were it otherwise, I’d be the first to admit it because I despise the denial of the truth going under the name of ‘PC’ which characterises the modern world.

    Of course all of this was very gradually eroded as left liberals of assorted ethnicities and political creed grafted the US experience onto our own…for their own career trajectories and other motives, usually associated with border destruction.

  260. JM 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    Dirty Frank a Communist? As a man who spent a lifetime advocating a rationally planned economy – requiring either heavy control or nationalisation of monopolies and money issuance, I resent that. The footwasher never manages to squeeze in anything that might encourage a fundamental attack on the wealth and power of the Global Plutocracy, rather than pushing their carefully guided nation subverting plan leading to a World Government run by them with a degraded Catholic Church as a purely ancillary controller of the slaves. That’s what this bastard is about.

    Drop this stupid ‘Communist’ allegation and attack his ilk for what they really are: Neo-liberal components/shills, part of the logical ‘development’ of Monopoly Capitalism/Finance Capitalism.

  261. @Mike Tre

    The humans known as Amerindians migrated to North America from Asia. In historically technical terms, they are no more or less native than the Europeans who arrived later.

    If so, then the Blacks, Browns and Yellows are “no more or less native than the Europeans who arrived” before they did!!! Get your logic right.

    The definition of the word “native” is “belonging to a place by birth.” So by definition, anyone born in America is “native,” but what makes a true “native American” is not a singular definition.

    Then, all the non-whites, who were born in the US before now, and those who will be born there from now, are also NATIVE to America by your definition!!!

    You are merely confirming my earlier statement that ‘The Whites are no more “Native” to America than the Blacks, Browns, or Yellows!!’ Does your brain work?

    Secondly, Amerindians are not “Native Americans” because there was no America before Europeans arrived. America is a place of European creation, on a piece of land previously inhabited, by primitive humans who had yet to discover written word, and thus had no history before Europeans arrived.

    Whether the true Natives were “yet to discover written words” I don’t know but they certainly had spoken languages which they used to pass on their histories verbally. I am pretty sure that ALL human histories began that way. So, they HAD history before the Europeans arrived.

    If ‘Amerindians were not “Native Americans” because there was no America before Europeans arrived’, then white murrikans canNOT be “Native Americans” either because “there was no” present-day America before the Blacks, Browns and Yellows arrived. By your logic, with every arrival in America of another white or non-white, by immigration or by birth, it becomes a new and different America!!!

    If being displaced by the whites made the true Natives “primitive” and not worth claiming their land as their own, then the whites who are now being displaced by non-whites must ALSO be “primitive” and must NOT be allowed to claim America their own.

    Your view is not only white-biased but also not self-consistent!

    Amerindians made no distinction between sovereignty and savagery, occupation and ownership, or possession and property. Thus, ethnically, racially, and culturally, only Europeans can be “Native Americans.”

    Thief calling “thief”– typical white double-talk!

    It is the whites/Europeans who “made no distinction between sovereignty and savagery, occupation and ownership, or possession and property”. Otherwise, they would NOT have gone to the American continent, which they KNEW did NOT belong to them, and colonised it!

    And that still does not count the countries murrika has invaded– and whose sovereignty murrika had violated– since.

    The European colonial powers had also invaded and colonised many non-European countries, e.g. parts of China, India, Middle-eastern countries, African countries, which DID make “distinction between sovereignty and savagery, occupation and ownership, or possession and property”, all over the world!!!

  262. 琼斯博士关于宗教是社会最重要决定因素的论点,如果在经验基础上进行分析和检查,将毫无疑问地证明是正确的。 主导西方时代精神的种族关系的烟雾和镜子旨在剥夺整个西方社会,特别是美国社会所需的社会统一,这是任何社会政治实体行使自然权利所必需的繁荣、自由和稳定。

    纵观历史,政治和战争都是宗教的衍生物,而不是相反。 为了提供一个支持实证建议的实际例子,我将把黎巴嫩的 1997 个教派放在一个人口不足 XNUMX 万的土著人口中。 早在 XNUMX 年代和 XNUMX 年代初期,这个国家就曾是崛起中的第三世界国家的先锋,拥有非常强劲的经济、新闻自由以及由非常少的军队和警察部队管理的非凡安全。 那时,基督教马龙派和逊尼派穆斯林这两个教派的权力分享安排运作良好,但随着基督教总统和逊尼派总理争夺更大影响力,有时会造成轻微的紧张局势。 但在 XNUMX 年代中期,国际犹太复国主义决定通过激起一个本质上是多元宗教而非黎巴嫩人假装是多元文化的社会的潜伏紧张局势,将迄今为止受以色列停战条约约束的黎巴嫩拉入阿拉伯以色列冲突。 . 当每个宗教派别都开始吵着要分一杯羹时,一切都乱了套。 在长期的内战之后,教皇约翰保罗二世于 XNUMX 年访问了黎巴嫩,并宣布黎巴嫩不仅仅是一个国家,“这是一个信息”,意思是不同宗教教派共存的例子。 唉,正如后来的事件所证明的那样,黎巴嫩被证明是错误的信息,因为它的宗教多样性证明它是一个活生生的地狱,其唯一的解决方案是基于宗教人口的极端权力下放,而不是许多黎巴嫩和外国思想家难以捉摸的世俗主义提倡。

    另一方面,以色列大胆地向世界宣布它基于宗教信仰(更不用说以色列通过包括绝育在内的赤裸裸的歧视将非洲法拉沙人视为二等公民)。 在这里,犹太复国主义正在玩双重游戏,它在西方以无法控制的移民和虚假的世俗主义为基础促进混乱的社会,许多欧洲社会尤其是在法国,人口增长的穆斯林少数群体大体上紧随其后。一种文化社区主义的生活方式,它在世俗主义的旗帜下抵制更广泛的法国社会的融合。 在 XNUMX 世纪初的德雷福斯事件之后,法国人决定政教分离,在一个拥有新教徒和犹太人两个少数民族的总体天主教国家,事实证明这是对少数民族的福音,而牺牲了天主教多数。 法国现场最新的穆斯林竞争者证明了琼斯博士的理论,即宗教始终是某个社会特征的主要决定因素,无论理论上应该提供什么样的民主增强世俗主义的错误感觉。

    回到作为思想结构的种族问题,琼斯博士在他的著作《逻各斯崛起》中声称,科学研究证明人类起源于一对“亚当和夏娃”。 与此同时,琼斯博士否认进化论,恕我直言,这是正确的。 那么我们如何解释东方亚洲人与白人白种人与非洲黑人之间的不同生物学差异? 如果我们说环境因素加剧了这些生物学差异,我们岂不是冒着支持进化论的风险,或者冒着对亚当和夏娃的生物结构 DNA 可能产生如此多样的人类的无休止的猜测的风险吗?

    • 谢谢: utu
    • 回复: @UR2
  263. @Intelligent Dasein

    This is how they used to debate stuff in the Middle Ages.

    • 回复: @Intelligent Dasein
  264. @Robert Dolan

    I believe that all of the Catholics Charities’ lawyers are Jews.

  265. @Robert Dolan

    为了你自己的自尊,你真的应该在写愚蠢的东西之前三思而后行。

  266. “Race” is an Italo-French word meaning breed. Breeds are a concrete reality—NOT a category of the mind, Dr. Jones. You’re an idiot.

    Socrates would ask that if that is true that race is a category of the mind—then it would be the same thing in the Agrarian field.

    I’m a farm hand, the difference between Herefords and Holsteins—is NOT a category of my mind.

    Nation, Ethnos, Race all mean the same thing—Breeds of Mankind, Tribes of Mankind that are segregated by language. Language differentiates Breeds of Mankind and THAT IS NOT a “category of the mind”, you blithering idiot.

    Debate me,

    巴别塔,种族哲学和社会正义/政治正确性的种族灭绝思想
    https://www.academia.edu/14904951/
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  267. Jluker 说:
    @S

    对美国殖民社会努力的主要干扰来自英国。 新英格兰纺织厂当然不是支持废奴的。他们依赖南方棉花,战争期间有大规模裁员和关闭。工资劳动提高利润率是无可争议的,但这不是重点。 生产力是多种因素的结果。用一个黑人仆人代替北方的雇佣奴隶,反之亦然,两者的产量都不如另一个。 北方工厂工人从机械操作中产出。 种植园雇用了广泛的技能,而黑人则是训练有素的劳动力。 棉花种植只是众多任务中的一项。

    Comparing the productivity of bonded slaves to “wage slaves,” is comparing different outputs. Cotton production is unlimited. Even if sales decrease the extra inventory is an asset for loans. Factories must have new markets and technological development. Cotton is cotton. To this day the South is the largest exporter of cotton in the world to the tune of more than \$40 billion per annum. Plantation managers were the best in the world so that any variation in productive rates were simply adjusted by varying management techniques. If bonded servants were working in New England factories that would be a different story altogether. But plantations are still farms, not factories.

    顺便说一下,南方的黑人得到了工资。他们的劳动力从一个种植园租到另一个种植园,他们被允许保留这笔租金作为他们津贴的补充。这减少了原始所有者的维护成本。 黑人像白人一样在商店购买产品。

    新英格兰的纺织业主并没有因为南方的劳动制度而遭受利润损失。 事实上,到 1860 年,市场变得过剩。然而,来自英国和其他欧洲人的竞争成为了他们利润的障碍。新英格兰工人的工资可能很低,但不像欧洲人的工人生活在极度贫困中那样低。 欧洲人降低了国际市场上的销售价格,而且他们更接近那些市场。 新英格兰纺织厂只是想从南方控制市场资源,以此作为对抗欧洲的竞争优势。

    The Southern perspective was demographic not market oriented. Yankee or European didn’t matter. Cotton was King! They had markets and credit no matter what. This demographic problem was wicked and included several converging aspects. By 1860, here were 1.5 million poor whites in the South who would kill you just as soon as look at you. They lived at near subsistence levels and were a lower class than blacks. That’s why they endured the suffering in the war so well. It wasn’t much worse than living at home. But they needed work. Something had to be done. Whites will pick cotton, but there must be jobs available.

    The problem was more acute though. Bonded labor was simply too expensive. By 1860 a prime field hand sold for \$1200 on average, in gold! Convert that to today’s dollars. A blacksmith in his prime \$3600. A carriage driver, \$1500. A white man couldn’t have sold himself into bondage for a nickel. They had no skills, no value. The transition to wage labor had begun a decade earlier especially in Louisiana and Texas. But the problem was what to do with the Negroes. Mass emancipation? So, they starve to death, start killing, robbing, and whoring? Not a clever idea. That was the demographic disaster the South was desperately trying to avoid.

    但情况更糟。 到 1860 年,大中型种植园的平均利润约为 4.5%。 即使幸运,小种植园也大多破产。 这是由于管理种植园的间接成本,但主要是劳动力成本。 但种植园确实产生了很多收入,只是利润率很低。 银行向业主提供了他们想要的所有信贷。 信用才是最重要的。 然而,利润率正在收紧。 破产变得越来越普遍。 大的种植园很好,他们可以借任何他们想要的东西,但只有几个。 如果出现大规模破产、经济衰退、萧条等情况会怎样?现在数以百万计的黑人被赶出他们赖以生存的种植园,并加入了数百万从印第安人的战斗中走出来的白人的行列,与前几代的边疆搏斗者,手持步枪和腐肠威士忌。 有点戏剧性的描述,但可以看出南方政客们关心的是什么。

    因此,必须从黑人债役工过渡到白人雇佣工。 一个已经在进行的过渡。 到 1860 年,南方有 250 万黑人自由人。 他们通过解放成为自由人。 这个问题是预见到的,解决方案最初是由最著名的废奴主义者,实际上是第一位黑人民族主义者,托马斯杰斐逊在 1777 年提出的。在西部土地上给黑人他们自己的国家或政治社会。 作为替代的殖民非洲的提议。 问题再次出在大英帝国。

    The primary funding for the abolitionists came from London and Glasgow sister abolitionist organizations. British colonial policy since the 17th century was to colonize Africa. The American Colonization Society was a severe obstacle to that Geo-political goal, especially as colonized Southern freedman spoke English and were Christianized. William Lloyd Garrison, the public leader of the abolitionist movement was a British citizen. He never became naturalized in the United States (ABOLITIONISM EXPOSED! by W. W. SLEIGH, F. R. C. S. L. Philadelphia, 1838). He was a member of the free trade league. Fee trade is a British commercial strategy as opposed to the tariff strategy advocated under Henry Clay’s “American System.” The British went all out to prevent Southerners from colonizing Africa and securing that continent for the United States. And they succeeded. The American Colonization Society dissolved in the 1870s but never received the necessary support to achieve its aims.

    It wasn’t New England or Northern people who supported the abolitionists, they hated them (New York anti-abolitionist riots (1834). It was banking and wealthy families in Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, and New York who were supporting the British during and after the failure of colonization. Just as they did in the War of 1812. They were the financiers for the extremely lucrative slave trade. More importantly, they wanted the western lands to remain for whites and more so for collateral. To this day, 2/3rds of all lands in the west are held in trust managed by the BLM. That land was the collateral for all government loans.

    北方各州的土地和劳动力被承诺借用建立军队入侵南方所需的纸张。 所得税是对该国资本存量的留置权。 到 1865 年,欧洲人拥有所有债券的 65%,这是符合 1821 年维罗纳条约的战略。 最后一次所谓的内战债务直到 1920 年代才还清(财政部长报告,1921 年)。 政治影响要糟糕得多。

    The propaganda campaign to prevent the South from emancipating their bond servants and emigrating them to the west was branded as preventing the “extension of slavery.” But most people saw through this, especially in the North. You can’t spread or extend slavery. If you take from one place it’s a subtraction, not an addition. People aren’t butter, you can’t spread them. Furthermore, Labor is created under the laws of the source state. Once a border is crossed the laws no longer apply. Therefore, defacto emancipation. More importunately, you can’t grow cotton in the West. No cotton, no expensive blacksmiths, carpenters, etc., not to mention medicine, clothing, and all the necessaries for a healthy workforce.

    Furthermore, upon secession all bond servants in the South were de facto emancipated for another reason. The South repudiated over \$300 million in debt to Northern banks. This was intentional. Their credit was now gone. Without credit, no expensive black labor. Now they have to emigrate them out West. Not even the big plantation owners can get credit. But that was perfect, now they can hire cheap white labor and see that 4.5% margin go to about 50%. The more skilled blacks can be hired at wages until white labor is trained. The rest are emigrated to the West to farm grain, desperately needed by the South.

    对不同劳动制度的比较更像是一种政治论点,就像现代政治家大多无用的胡言乱语一样。 真正的问题与人口、货币或利润有关。 其他的东西只是政治言论。 当然,应该指出的是,今天的奴隶比过去要多得多。 苹果 iphone 是由中国的乌古尔奴隶制造的。 雀巢巧克力是或曾经是由非洲的黑奴制造的。 耐克和阿迪达斯的鞋子都是由印尼奴隶制作的。 美国政府并没有为了“解放”这些奴隶而杀害一百万人。 但他们会拿走他们的钱。

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/07/slavery-still-exists-wheres-black-lives-matter-robert-spencer/
    https://atlantablackstar.com/2013/08/26/17-major-companies-never-knew-benefited-slavery/
    https://www.apmreports.org/episode/2017/09/04/shackled-legacy

    顺便说一句,让我感到惊讶的是,为什么对南方分裂的原因存在争议。 这从来都不是秘密。 从国会辩论,到联邦、州和地方各级的演讲,当时每个人都知道南方将解放他们的奴仆,并将他们安置在西部。 但除了为政客买单的银行利益之外,没有人关心。 嗯,西方人做到了,他们不想与廉价黑人劳动力生产的廉价谷物竞争。 但这始终不是秘密。 它确实证明了宣传的力量。 它不能破坏,但可以掩盖真相。

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  268. ronehjr 说:
    @Malcolm X

    虽然你提出了一些不错的观点,但事实是黑人被用作恶棍,因为他们更暴力,而且令人作呕,通常对社会中最弱的人来说。 事实上,你忽略了这一点,并在小写白色的同时将黑色大写,这让我相信你是一长串黑人小贩中的另一个,他们只是使用现代仇恨白人神学来提升自己而不希望寻求真理。

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  269. @Henry's Cat

    This is how they used to debate stuff in the Middle Ages.

    No, it’s quite the opposite. I am a Traditional Catholic myself and I read quite a bit of Scholastic philosophy. They took logic and metaphysics quite seriously. The dreck the E. Michael Jones wrote in this column would have been justly laughed to scorn in any medieval discussion.

  270. @Robert Dolan

    Perhaps! But JT seems to be followed more than the learned KMAC… just my take on it.

  271. SteveK9 说:

    This seems to boil down largely to a nature vs nurture argument. Both matter, but I think nature (genetics) is the somewhat more powerful force. Michael Jones adds in his powerful belief in Catholicism and fear and hatred of the Jews. Those beliefs have a big effect on how he sees everything. Is he right? Don’t know.

  272. @Robert Dolan

    During negotiations for the Concordat between the Catholic Church and Germany in 1933, Hitler said to Bishop Wilhelm Berning: “I have been attacked because of my handling of the Jewish question. The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognised the Jews for what they were. In the epoch of liberalism the danger was no longer recognised. I am moving back toward the time in which a fifteen-hundred-year-long tradition was implemented. I do not set race over religion, but I recognise the representatives of this race as pestilant for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions”.

    Nazi Germany & the Jews: The Years of Persecution 1933–39, Saul Friedländer, p. 47

    Do not let them play you as a performing monkey. The virulently anti-catholic is often the star of david judas waver.

  273. Bernie 说:

    Good take from Ramz Paul on Jared Taylor v. E. Michael Jones debate on “is race real”?

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  274. ziggurat 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    遣返报酬,帮助黑人(和其他种族)搬迁到他们的祖先家园,这是为他们的种族优化的。 那样说听起来不错。

    任何抱怨不公平或类似问题的非白人,我们可以说:
    “We’re sorry this society is not for you. Let us help you move to a society that is better for you. In fact, we insist, as we hate to see you suffer. Thus, no jobs, loans, or charity for you, but only remunerations to repatriate.”

    In fact, the phrase “African-American” is still acceptable. Mentally speaking, it’s like blacks are already halfway in Africa, as it is.

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  275. Truth 说:
    @Sin City Milla

    Schikelgruber was a Jewish puppet who’s purpose was to galvanize world opinion and the Jewish people into a united group.

    They sacrificed a hundred thousand (or so) for the greater good, just as they are doing in South Khazaria now.

  276. ziggurat 说:
    @Truth

    我们白人不欺负任何人,而是互相欺负。

    我用“l”和“r”尝试了这个词,然后我去掉了一个“e”,但都不合适。

    Try “need”. A fat finger hit the “b” instead of the “n”.

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  277. Truth 说:
    @ronehjr

    While you make some decent points, the fact is blacks are used as boogeymen because the are more violent, and disgustingly so, often to the weakest in society.


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  278. ziggurat 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    There’s a great song called “Sacrifice” that was recently released by a lady in the “white art collective”.

    You can listen to song 14 “Sacrifice” at this site:
    https://hiraeth9.bandcamp.com/album/metamorphosis

    The artist is “Hiraeth”:

  279. E. 迈克尔琼斯用这些垃圾给传统天主教带来了坏名声。 我写过关于如何在本质主义系统中处理“种族”的文章。 完整版本发布在 Unz Review 上。

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/alt-wrong-paradigms/

  280. nickels 说:
    @Sin City Milla

    好吧,他至少可以摧毁英格兰。
    然而,你是对的。 Hit&er 一直试图尽可能地与 ChurchDevil 和解。
    为了自己的利益,他太钦佩英国人了。
    耻辱——他应该意识到斯拉夫人是智力和勇敢方面真正优越的种族(民族),尽管他们很野蛮。

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  281. Truth 说:
    @ziggurat

    大声笑,我知道巴迪,我只是玩得开心。

  282. @GeneralRipper

    不是我的意思。

    琼斯博士多次暗示二战的真实故事是不完整的。

    有不少天主教主教站在帝国一边。 就连红衣主教冯·盖伦也称赞巴巴罗萨。

  283. hillaire 说:

    琼斯应该上基本的生物课,然后四处寻找混合“种族”起源的备用器官,寻找在生物学上是不同种族混合的混合种族标本,然后重新检查各种物种的分类法,看看他的棕熊北极熊和各种狐狸都同意他的看法……

    你会看到像琼斯这样将希腊哲学和中东魔神混为一谈的低能者……

    唯一需要区分的是杰弗里·谢克尔斯坦是否接受了一些罗马低能者对耶稣基督教义的故意曲解(控制“大众”婴儿),以及您是否为“收藏”做出了贡献。

    希望上帝会从地球上抹去这种自以为是和自鸣得意的伪君子……

    并在他们创造的地狱中折磨他们……

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  284. anon[352]• 免责声明 说:
    @UR2

    你缺少的一个要点是佩洛西、拜登、肯尼迪等人并不是真正的天主教徒。

    “天主教”只是思想的一个类别。

  285. S 说:
    @Jluker

    感谢您的回复。 你提出了一些有趣的角度。 没有听说过南方计划在西方解放他们的奴隶,也没有听说过英国出于对自己帝国的担忧,不希望前美国奴隶在非洲殖民。

    胜利者写下了历史书。

    关于美国废奴主义者得到英国银行支持的评论符合我的直觉。

    你确定新英格兰纺织厂主不支持废奴主义,并且随着废奴主义,预期的更有效率和成本更低的工资奴隶(即所谓的“移民”“廉价劳动力”)取代动产奴隶的位置吗? 马萨诸塞州劳伦斯“移民城市”及其臭名昭著的姊妹城市劳伦斯废奴中心“流血”堪萨斯城,每个城市的建设都由马萨诸塞州纺织厂巨头劳伦斯家族的著名资助,又如何呢?

    您是否知道,在美国内战期间,“廉价劳动力”一词从字面上从所有美国企业媒体中消失,直到 1865 年战争结束后才神奇地重新出现? 也就是说,如果主题是内战,那么战争时代对廉价劳动力“自由劳动力”的委婉说法至今仍在使用。 [在美国制造的两个在线图书馆中进行的单词搜索证实了这一点。]

    关于沃克 1863 年的伦敦经济计算,当他比较依赖雇佣奴隶(即“廉价劳动力”)的大规模生产力与依赖动产奴隶的南卡罗来纳州的生产力时,他煞费苦心地考虑了许多变量。 请记住这些计算的背景,沃克,前美国财务主管和“流血”堪萨斯州的州长,伦敦林肯政府的财务代表,在那里获得贷款以资助联盟战争努力,他非常突出成功地做。

    我认为这场战争的一个主要原因,虽然通常是不言而喻的,但它是希望将美国北部的工资奴隶制制度,即所谓的“廉价劳动力”/“大规模移民”制度、经济和现代所谓的“进步”多元文化社会的政治基础。

    这是因为羞耻吗?

    可能不得不同意不同意后面的一些观点。

    再次感谢您的回复。

  286. Marcion 说:
    @BorisMay

    所以,白色意识的持续时间比琼斯提交的要长得多,谢谢。

    白人在过去的几个世纪里经历了太多的战争,并停止了认真的启蒙寻求,才退化到这一点:我们现在拥有这种削弱的父权制,以及无能的否认种族、逃避科学、反哲学、情绪化的社会秩序。 这是必须克服和取代的。

  287. anon[339]• 免责声明 说:

    RamZPaul 有权这样做,E. Michael Jones 的论点主要是大学宿舍公牛会议级别的二年级垃圾。

    让我们看一下琼斯陈述的两个核心部分:种族只是思想的一个类别,人们使用“种族”一词来伤害人们

    好吧,正如有人所说,“天主教”只是思想的一个类别,人们使用宗教术语来伤害他人,因此遵循 E. Michael Jones 自己的方向“宗教”只是思想和“天主教”的一个类别是小说。 我敢肯定,琼斯会对这种说法感到愤怒,但由于它直接来自他关于种族的争论,因此他不会真正反对它。 当然,除非他选择拆除自己的位置。

    琼斯并不像他自认为的那么聪明,他的谈话中带有强烈的伪善恶臭。

    这对他来说是一次失败的努力。

  288. Alexandros 说:
    @nickels

    那些斯拉夫人在犹太共产主义的统治下,帮助他们走向世界革命。

    希特勒不能仅仅摧毁英国。 他不是魔术师。 唯一的办法就是缩减军队规模,将所有资源都投入到一个过境点上。 双倍德国空军,三倍德国海军。

    斯大林完全不会像其他任何一次德国处于战争状态时那样利用这种情况。 整个国防军都在英格兰,实际上没有什么能阻止他占领整个欧洲。 这就是为什么他的军队尽可能靠近德国边境,并配备专为欧洲高速公路设计的高速坦克,准备开始工作。

    所以你告诉那些强大的斯拉夫人下次不要与犹太人的欧洲计划结盟。

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  289. 我忘记了问题中使用的确切词语,但我认为本质是:泰勒请琼斯博士解释犹太人在宣扬多样性和同化时如何成为种族主义者。 琼斯博士的回答不清楚。 他应该回答的是:作为一个goy,移民到以色列并嫁给一个犹太人。 它不会发生。 这是违反马赛克法的。

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  290. Jluker 说:

    废奴主义与废除所谓的“奴隶制”无关。 目标是废除 1787 年的宪法。这是一个古老的政治把戏,一个门面。 例如,今天以白人至上的指责为由做了同样的事情。 当然,白人至上,这是我们的土地。 地主在自己的土地上是至高无上的。 我们的祖先通过征服、发现或条约占领了这片土地,并通过条约将其遗赠给我们(“……为了我们和我们的子孙后代”)。 在自己的土地上至高无上是理所当然的,但它却是一种指责。 一些头脑简单的人会因为被指责为白人至上而采取防御态度。 我回答说我当然是我的土地上的至高无上的。 如果对白人至上的指责意味着它不是我们的土地,那么这就是问题所在。

    在劳动制度的背景下,正确的术语是解放。 这个词适用于父母和孩子。 根据法律,种植园的所有者是监护人,而受约束的仆人是受监护人。 南方的法律就是这样安排的,以确保没有奴隶制。 因此,他们是奴仆(劳力是买来的,不是人买来的); 他们的监护人或主人的监护人(主人的意思是老板); 并制度化(就像一所大学,疯人院)。 这种安排在南北政客的解释中知之甚少,但你必须阅读国会辩论、判例法和他们的演讲才能理解区别。

    废除一词在普通法中没有定义,但在民法中却有定义。 这就是辩论的精髓。 如果建立了联邦政府可以废除国家机构的先例,那么这些州就没有名义上的存在,因为华盛顿政府可以废除任何东西。 那是南方正在捍卫的“州权利”,但代表所有州,除非假设所有北方州都想自愿废除他们在华盛顿中央暴政的权利。 如果人们阅读那个时期的马萨诸塞州宪法,情况就几乎不可能。 “废奴主义者”是与英国结盟的银行和企业分子。 除其他原因外,英国人想要他们在 1776 年被叛军收回的财产。

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    棉花是一种无限或可再生资源。 种植园主将为他的资源获得最优惠的价格。 工资补偿无关紧要,市场价格才是相关的。 新英格兰的利润受到他们与欧洲人竞争的影响,而不是受到南方债券仆人的影响。 南部种植园主的利润受到影响。 他们希望雇佣劳动力来增加净利润。

    补偿可以通过多种方式进行,正如我之前指出的那样,黑人经常获得工资,因为他们的劳动力是从一个种植园租到另一个种植园。 即使他们在政治上同意与否,新英格兰纺织业主在南方也不需要雇佣劳动力。 他们需要基础资源,而在南方则是无限的。 市场价格对他们来说很重要。

    南方种植园主想要雇佣劳动力,因为利润率更高。 但你必须解决人口问题。 雪上加霜的是,坦率地说,白人雇佣劳动是有问题的,现在仍然是。 例如,1855 年在路易斯安那州的梅泰里,一位种植园主卖掉了他的“奴隶”,并以高薪雇佣了当地的德国和爱尔兰劳动力。 到了修炼的时候,他们已经联合起来,要求更多的钱。 种植园主说不,他们“走了出去”。 他净损失了\$10,000(黄金)。 许多南方白人更喜欢黑人作为劳动力,因为白人往往是个麻烦事。

    纺织厂所有者和其他人可能出于多种原因支持政治解决方案。 使用该术语的“废奴主义”始于托马斯杰斐逊的南方,南方充满了他们。 事实上,所有的种植园主、政治家,每个人。 同样,问题是如何处理黑人。 这不是他们的土地。 所以,唯一剩下的就是共同的领土,西部。

    我已经回顾了沃克的计算,事实上所有这方面的论点。 我的背景是金融。 当时有许多支持和反对北方或南方劳动制度的计算。 报告后报告。 辩论后辩论,一切都无关紧要。 南方人垄断了,朴实无华。 这就是激怒北方工业家的原因。 南方人想借什么借什么都可以。 他们可以协商他们想要的贷款的任何利息。 当南方人去纽约或波士顿时,银行会铺开红地毯。 贷款是基于他们生产棉花的劳动力的资产价值。 这就是人口普查记录计算“奴隶财产”价值的原因。 他们没有计算雇佣劳动的价值。 雇佣劳动者不是资产,因为他是可替代的。

    这就是为什么南方人从不购买或解决奴隶,他们买卖劳动力。 因此,债券仆人。 债券是合同义务,仆人是服务,或服务合同。

    奴隶既便宜又无用。 当新英格兰奴隶贩子在非洲购买奴隶时,他们在新英格兰购买的廉价商品平均每人支付 25 至 50 美元。 非洲国王奴役他们的人民,而不是新英格兰人。 奴隶是通过征服创造出来的,这是唯一的方法。 但在南方出售时,他们得到的是劳动力价格(以黄金计)。 这就是为什么交易如此有利可图。 南方人支付劳动力价格,因为这决定了劳动力的资产价值,从而决定了银行和人口普查评估员的资产与贷款价值。

    在工资劳动制度下,银行控制利息,否则你就得不到贷款。 结果,更高的利息,更低的工资。 银行不能对南方人做到这一点。 如果银行 A 拒绝条款,那么南方人就会去费城、芝加哥、伦敦或巴黎。 有人会按照他们想要的条件贷款。 结果,银行回应了南方关于贷款的要求。 银行不喜欢这样。 他们想设定贷款条款。 正如他们今天所做的那样。 我们任由他们摆布,自 1861 年以来一直如此。

    无论如何,北方工业家无法与南方人支付的薪酬竞争,南方人至少在几十年内愿意接受较低的净利润率。 种植园是黑人的家和食物。 住在种植园里的黑人拥有最好的食物、药品、假期和退休计划。 没有北方企业主可以与这种水平的薪酬竞争。 所以当然,他们憎恨南方的垄断。 这就是为什么所有宣传攻击都声称在种植园虐待黑人的原因。 事实正好相反。 唯一要做的就是阅读“奴隶叙事”,了解实际情况。

    北方工业家和国际银行家希望建立基于雇佣劳动的垄断地位。 他们在政治和物质上付出了巨大的代价得到了它。

    • 回复: @Tony massey
    , @S
  291. anarchyst 说:

    天主教信仰与种族隔离相容。
    在新约或天主教教义中,没有任何地方鼓励或要求种族融合。 期望一个人会努力成为一个好人 在各自的社会中,无论一个人属于哪个种族。 天主教的 “普遍性” 是关于 对待他人和自己的行为-而已。
    这是关于天主教的一个因素 普遍性 是 EMJ “错过船”的地方。
    在犹太布尔什维克接管教育和娱乐之前,每个种族都喜欢自己的种族是完全可以接受的。 梵蒂冈二世“敲定了”天主教抛弃现代天主教的协议 “出轨”,使它更像新教或犹太教。

    • 同意: Liosnagcat
  292. anarchyst 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    你是对的。 “goy”和犹太人合法结婚的唯一方式是在另一个国家结婚。 这“迫使”以色列政府承认这种婚姻。

  293. anarchyst 说:
    @hillaire

    甚至卡修斯·克莱(穆罕默德·阿里)也反对通婚。 在一次电视采访中,他举了一个很好的例子——狗。 他指出,虽然德国牧羊犬和吉娃娃“交配”是“可能的”,但这种交配不太可能发生,因为狗品种也倾向于“自己的同类”。

  294. UR2 说:
    @Joe Levantine

    生物学差异但仍然是物种,即无论两个不同的种族如何交配,后代都是由同一物种产生的。 如果进化是真的,黑人、黄人、红人和白人的内在就会有所不同。 线粒体夏娃是一种理论,是面对令人眼花缭乱、庞大且尚未发现的基因组意义的轻率想法。 现在是骗子声称 DNA 支持他们的理论的黄金机会。 我很遗憾看到琼斯在他的《逻各斯崛起》的第一章中宣布了这么多蹩脚的科学。 糟糕的科学一直是他的弱点,我相信我不是唯一一个看到文化战争中的不幸事件的人。 至于亚当和夏娃,毫无疑问,精神意义是必不可少的。

    • 谢谢: Joe Levantine
  295. UR2 说:
    @ziggurat

    几年前,当我不得不在 S 的一所大型社区学院度过时,这件事让我震惊。 凤凰城 75% 的学生是墨西哥人、黑人、东方人和毫无疑问的白人的混合体。 他们混杂得如此彻底,就像一个我从未见过但有个性的新种族……矮、高、美、丑等等。你会把他们送回哪个国家?

    • 回复: @Trinity
    , @ziggurat
    , @Alexandros
  296. lydia 说:
    @KenH

    但可以肯定的是,琼斯是一名克格勃特工,完全了解摧毁西方文明并以犹太新苏联欧亚为中心的多极世界秩序取而代之的计划,他犯下了不可估量的叛国罪。 这需要被广泛曝光,以及完整的阴谋。

    至于西方,欧亚宣传正在全力以赴使其合法化,我们仍然必须捍卫我们的土地和文明,无论它们多么腐朽。 与世界一样,西方最终可以而且必须被福音治愈,我们必须认识到并传达为西方人设置的陷阱,以同意欧亚多极世界的隐藏共产主义。 我们绝不能被琼斯所说的“上帝正在使用唐纳德特朗普来终结美利坚帝国”的言论所欺骗。 洗脑西方已经完蛋了——即使是按照上帝的旨意。 (169)。
    “””
    3) 单极西方与世界多极其他地区的对抗,来自欧亚宣传网站 Evrasia。

    4) 多极世界的设计是临时的,因为它隐藏了西欧将被并入东方以及大以色列的创建。

    https://fitzinfo.net/2020/12/25/e-michael-jones-is-a-kgb-asset-and-guilty-of-immeasurable-treason-against-the-usa-west/

    • 哈哈: mark green
    • 回复: @Robert Dolan
    , @buckyinky
  297. @Robert Dolan

    耶稣是个直言不讳的人(马太福音 5:37)——下面是 50 年前的音乐版本。 尽管弗朗西斯是毁灭西方的柱子和工具,但我怀疑,即使帷幕即将落下,他口中说出的最后一句话也会令人惊讶并兑现耶稣所给予的应许。

    • 回复: @Jack McArthur
  298. @Jack McArthur

    记录在木马记录上可能会给你一个借口 - 耶稣也有幽默感🙂

  299. @Jluker

    这样的系统怎么破?
    在此之前,他们曾经是这样的吗?

  300. ProudBLM 说:
    @Magic Dirt

    “蓝眼恶魔”怎么样? 当贾里德说非洲人会带着他们的孩子去西非看到他时,贾里德是在钱上,而那些小孩子会害怕地哭起来。

  301. Trinity 说:
    @UR2

    很明显,以色列会张开双臂欢迎这些人,所以这将是一个不错的选择。

    嗯,其他一些接受这些人的国家没有特别的顺序

    México
    萨尔瓦多
    非洲的任何国家
    Brasil
    洪都拉斯
    危地马拉
    巴基斯坦

    哦,地狱,这个群体中有很多非白人和非种族主义国家。

  302. 使用“心灵范畴”这个表达就像国际象棋棋手将饺子扔在棋盘上而不是采取行动。

  303. S 说:
    @Jluker

    诚然,南方的奴隶主并不太在意“奴隶”这个词,而是更喜欢你所阐述的“仆人”这个词。

    [更多]

    我认为这只是语义学,即文字游戏,并且不想向自己承认他们确实从事奴隶制的可怕事实。

    然而,北方人也在用他们所谓的“廉价劳动力”(更准确地称为工资奴隶制)来玩语义学。 他们, 也有,从事奴隶制。

    我不会轻易或夸张地使用“工资奴隶制”这个词。

    在南方,对个人劳动价值的系统性盗窃,即“奴隶制”,是通过实际拥有一个人作为笨重的财产(即“动产”)来实现的,因此术语 动产 奴隶制。

    在北方,通过支付进口的“移民”来更有效地实现对个人劳动价值的系统窃取,这些“移民”通常足以支付给爱尔兰人或法裔加拿大人等破碎和失败的人,远低于盛行的劳动力的实时本地费率曾经或曾经没有移民发生或移民不在场。

    个人劳动价值的系统性窃取直接来自个人的工资、工资,因此 工资 奴隶制。

    确实,后一种制度下的人可以退出,但这完全没问题,因为雇主/剥削者只会用每年(通过 diktat)允许的另一群移民代替他们,而不是被称为 质量 移民一事无成。

    北方或南方,除了支付你自己的盎格鲁撒克逊人(最初)普遍的实时本地劳动力成本之外,什么都没有。 进口动产奴隶或工资奴隶“移民”,而不是在他们的地方做工作,但要少得多。

    很多人认为北方至少使用了“白人”进口劳动力,即欧洲人,但即使在欧元之间也存在真正和显着的差异,有些差异很大,有些差异不大,这在北方城市造成了严重的社会弊病,即骚乱。

    19 世纪中叶,他们在当时关于大规模移民的问题上想尽办法逍遥法外。 1861 年美国内战开始时,他们已经通过美国加利福尼亚州的“后门”每年从中国直接进口数千名雇佣奴隶。 这些中国人的工资通常仅为加州 1877 年制定的当地劳动标准的三分之一左右。

    我会让一位南方女性伊丽莎·安德鲁斯(Eliza Andrews)在这个问题上拥有最终决定权。 作为一个成年人,她经历了战争。

    她用语言表达了与北方人罗伯特沃克在他 1863 年伦敦经济计算中所说的完全相同的事情,该计算比较了依赖工资奴隶的马萨诸塞州和依赖动产奴隶的南卡罗来纳州的生产力。

    “由于我们实际上垄断了世界主要纺织原料,我们的南部各州仍处于农业阶段,是最后一个发现动产奴隶制不如雇佣奴隶制有利可图的伟大文明国家,因此是“伟大的道德十字军东征”反对顽固不振的南方的北方”。

    ``这纯粹是经济决定论的案例,这意味着我们的巨大道德冲突在最后的分析中将其自身简化为美元和美分的问题,尽管真正的问题被其他考虑因素所掩盖,以至于我们南方国家诚实地相信了这一点。直到今天,我们一直在为国家权利而战,而北方也坚信它在为释放奴隶而进行了大刀阔斧的斗争,这一点同样是诚实的。”

    https://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/andrews/andrews.html

  304. ziggurat 说:
    @UR2

    其实,我的提议的一个方面只是一种幻想的尝试,而不是可以实施的东西。 由于他们的非白人传统和反白人意见,我们不能将任何人派往任何地方。

    然而,提供报酬以支持自愿遣返到他们最认同的非白人国家并不是不可想象的。 这可能是他们的选择,但它必须是一个非白人国家,因为如果这个人抱怨美国是种族主义者,那么他们可能会对每个白人国家都有这种感觉。 甚至加拿大也被称为种族主义者,尽管它们有着相当原始的历史。 瑞典和冰岛也是如此。

    我们不必使用“遣返”这个词。 我们可以称之为“离职报酬”。 (另一个想法:搬迁赔偿)。 通过这种方式,我们可以避免混淆他们认为自己的起源在哪里。

    因此,我们可以为非白人反白人提供离职补偿,以便他们搬到他们选择的非白人国家。 这没有任何“歧视”。 这对非白人来说是一个好处。 当然,它歧视白人,但这在当今世界是司空见惯的。

  305. Ranchpig 说:

    我不明白为什么每个人似乎都在这场辩论中“站在一边”。 他们根本没有在辩论。 他们甚至无法就 RACE 一词的含义达成共识。
    琼斯至少试图定义他正在争论的内容,即我们当前的定义实际上是心灵的一个类别。
    泰勒争论的是完全不同的东西。 物种(或更准确地说,亚种)。

    对我来说,最重要的是泰勒从未解决琼斯重新定义中隐含的差异,而是坚持认为存在基因/行为差异可以“证明”种族是真实的,而不承认种族的武器化定义。

    我认为最重要的部分被忽略了,因为我们没有看到使用种族作为武器(以及许多其他方式)如何破坏文化。 琼斯的主要目标是确定那场战争以及谁负责。 不管泰勒是否真诚,尽管汇总了大量数据,但他未能确定来源和更广泛的影响。

    • 回复: @buckyinky
    , @Jack McArthur
  306. cortesar 说:

    确实对琼斯博士的精彩曝光,关闭了这些种族歧视
    真正的救赎在于让每个人都皈依天主教
    看看他跟随繁荣的国家作为基督教成功和天才的证明
    埃塞俄比亚最古老的基督教国家之一(4世纪)
    巴西是世界上最虔诚的国家
    海地如何评价这颗文明的明珠和真正信仰的堡垒

    • 回复: @Franklin Ryckaert
  307. @cortesar

    的确,种族是“思想的范畴”,因此不是真实的。 然而真实的是宗教,尤其是天主教,它是世界上最单一的文明创造力量。

    作为证明,我在这里添加了一张来自天主教海地的照片。 请注意天主教是如何激发前景中的人发明一种完全依靠环保能源运行的汽车的:

    琼斯“赢得了辩论”。 毫无疑问!

    • 哈哈: Tony massey
    • 回复: @HenryB
  308. Smith 说:

    为什么这些白人不邀请一些黑人、阿拉伯人或亚洲人与他们辩论?

    让我们看看他们怎么说。

  309. @Vergissmeinnicht

    说出你对 Jim Goad 的看法,但他既诚实又好笑。

  310. 琼斯引用了“武器化移民”,但由于他是天主教徒,并从宗教的角度看待社会分歧,他没有理由将移民视为一个问题。 他应该关注这样一个事实,即作为天主教徒,他在美国是少数; 按照他自己的标准,他可能应该被驱逐或失去政治权利,或者被强制皈依新教,或者他认为对倾向于“武器化”他们的少数派的人适当的任何措施。

    因此,天主教徒的大规模移民(例如来自拉丁美洲)应该被视为解决他自己问题的方法。 如果犹太人在这方面提供帮助——这显然是他的意见——他们实际上是在帮助他。

  311. buckyinky 说:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    如果你愿意的话,我对详细说明这一点很感兴趣。 在我看来,辩论进行得并不顺利,因为 EMJ 主要是在形而上学术语上进行辩论,而 Jared Taylor 和主持人似乎并不了解一种称为形而上学的知识,更不用说他们会允许让步了EMJ 提出的(我认为的)形而上学观点。

    EMJ 对此并没有做太多,但在辩论接近尾声时,他似乎对推动 Taylor 和主持人争论的唯物主义预设表示沮丧。 他们(或至少主持人)暗示了生物学对智力的重要影响,当 EMJ 承认您收到的大脑与生物学有很大关系的辅助观点时,他们(或者再次,至少主持人)似乎目瞪口呆EMJ 坚持认为大脑不能与思想混为一谈。

    这种交流在辩论中很典型,很不令人满意。

    • 回复: @Intelligent Dasein
  312. buckyinky 说:
    @Ranchpig

    是的,泰勒专注于物质主义的关注,但很明显他没有考虑过 EMJ 提出的形而上学概念。 然而,据我所知,它被称为 目标物理学,因为它应该被理解 接近物理/材料/生物问题。

  313. buckyinky 说:
    @lydia

    琼斯在他最近的一次采访中谈到了这个问题:

    这是一个很长的视频,但我相信面试官问他一个听众提出的关于 Alexander Dugin 的问题。 就在 1:11:29 标记附近。

  314. @buckyinky

    如果你愿意的话,我对详细说明这一点很感兴趣。

    我写了一篇关于这个主题的(相当长的)文章。 我在那篇文章中的观点是证明种族是真实的,而且一个人实际上可以成为种族现实主义者,而不必成为生物决定论者或达尔文主义者。 那篇文章的中间部分包括对达尔文主义的不足之处以及为什么需要用新范式取代的长篇讨论。 如果您有兴趣,可以在这里阅读:

    http://intelligentdasein.blogspot.com/2020/05/alt-wrong-paradigms-id-contra-hbd.html

    和 E. Michael Jones 一样,我也是一个传统的天主教徒; 但与他不同的是,我实际上似乎对亚里士多德-托马斯主义和现代科学有所了解。

    • 回复: @buckyinky
    , @anon
  315. HenryB 说:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    看来他们终于找到了他们发明的八角轮的用途!

  316. @Ranchpig

    “我认为最重要的部分被忽视了,因为我们看不到将种族作为武器是如何摧毁文化的”

    确切地说,种族是远离真正目标的干扰因素,而真正的目标是建立在基督教价值观之上的文化。 犹太文本憎恨耶稣,憎恨基督教,其精神希望将这一切彻底摧毁。 这是一场在种族烟幕掩护下的文化战场上的精神战争。

  317. Alexandros 说:
    @UR2

    你问灭虫员把白蚁从你家搬走后会安置在哪里?

    尽管如此,严肃地说,美国似乎正在很好地成为所有这些人的接受者。 有足够的空间让整个欧洲解决问题。 世界其他地方已经在这样做了

  318. GeneralRipper [又名“狮鹫”] 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    好吧,罗伯特仍然在努力工作谷歌搜索……哈哈

    如果多年来我在互联网上与天主教指责者发生同样的争论时,每一次我都有一美元,我就会有一笔可观的款项。 它总是以你对移民提出的同样荒谬的指责开始,并迅速演变成一个简单的针对天主教会的简单粗暴的练习。

    首先,你喜欢使用“基督教世界”这个词。 好吧,我的朋友,如果没有天主教会,就不会有基督教世界这样的东西,或者就此而言,圣经是不存在的。 事实上,多年来,许多新教异教徒在他们更清醒的时刻也承认了同样的事情。 此外,您可能希望告知这里的其他一些海报,天主教徒不“崇拜”圣母玛利亚、教皇或“墓碑”等……这些是许多新教徒对天主教徒提出的一些比较突出的顽固指责.

    其次,我不觉得有必要给你“证明”过去 75 年来法院、国会和行政部门的构成,因为对于对美国历史最了解的每个人来说,这是显而易见的。 但既然你已经提出了问题,我非常愿意仔细研究一下。

    https://www.pewforum.org/2021/01/04/faith-on-the-hill-2021/

    你想解释这些数字,还是想让我解释?

    猜猜鲍比是什么? 你走得越远,就白人新教徒的优势而言,数字变得越明显。 这适用于法院、国会和行政部门。 我将更进一步,添加自美国建国至今的绝大多数州立法机构和州长。

    如果算上 2020 年被骗入白宫的老年马铃薯,美国正好有两位天主教总统。此外,第一位甚至连任四年都没有。 挂着“国家毁灭者”的称号,这不是一个令人印象深刻的记录,是吗?

    那么下一个合乎逻辑的问题是谁做出了绝大多数决定并通过/执行了绝大多数使我们完全处于我们现在所处境地的法律?

    专业提示:这不是天主教徒……哈哈

    通过臭名昭著的哈特地窖法案的第 89 届国会的组成如何? 当然,正如你勇敢地指出的那样,我们都知道泰德·肯尼迪的角色。 但是,难道不应该让所有其他白人新教徒与入侵的部落保持一致,而不是对廉价地下室劳动的想法垂涎三尺吗? 当然LBJ是总统,他为什么不否决呢? 很确定他不是天主教徒……哈哈

    [更多]

    作出影响当今美国人的最重要和影响最深远的决定的最高法院的构成如何? Roe v wade、Brown v Board of Education、Engle v Vitale 等等……你很清楚你会发现什么,我也是。

    话虽如此,我当然不会原谅你或我提到的个别天主教徒或天主教组织,但我认为你往往缺乏远见,听起来好像你是故意这样做的。

    出于透视的目的,让我们来看看这个细分。

    https://christianityfaq.com/largest-christian-denominations-america/

    然后把点连起来……

    浸信会

    https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/baptists/north-american-baptists-called-embrace-immigrants-refugees/

    https://abwomensministries.org/page.aspx/contentId/35/Immigration/

    https://www.friendlyhouse.org/immigration

    还有更多……

    https://www.umc.org/en/what-we-believe/umc-topics/social-issues/immigration

    https://um-insight.net/perspectives/views-from-a-ridge/united-methodists-aiding-and-advocating-for-migrants_1/

    https://um-insight.net/in-the-church/umc-global-nature/united-methodists-ramp-up-efforts-to-aid-world-s-migrants/

    还有更多……

    路德

    https://www.lirs.org/about/

    https://lscarolinas.net/refugee-and-immigrant-services/

    https://lssnca.org/

    还有更多……

    主教

    https://www.episcopalchurch.org/ministries/office-government-relations/migration-refugees-immigration/

    https://www.edow.org/ministries-and-networks/justice-advocacy/sanctuary

    https://episcopalmigrationministries.org/

    还有更多……

    长老的

    https://pda.pcusa.org/situation/refugee-ministry/

    https://oga.pcusa.org/section/mid-council-ministries/immigration/

    还有更多……

    我想你明白了。

    至于你对天主教徒吐出的其他荒谬侮辱的洪流,“Jew Brained”必须是最好的之一......哈哈

    与新教美国人相比,没有人能接近对被选中的人的奉承和亲吻。 这甚至不需要辩论。 比利·格雷厄姆、约翰·哈吉、杰瑞·法威尔、帕特·罗伯逊以及大量的福音传道者和“电视传道者”一直在这方面吃到了蛋糕。

    此外,你断言琼斯先生会支持你对美国天主教徒所说的大部分内容,这一点可以肯定。

    总而言之,放下 Jack Chick 的小册子,把你的脑袋从你的屁股里拿出来,在你跳下来之前想一想。

    感谢在前进。

    • 同意: anarchyst
  319. buckyinky 说:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    谢谢,我看看你的文章。 我似乎比你更相信琼斯的能力,但我对他似乎在这个种族问题上建立的二分法感到有些困惑。 正如你所暗示的,他确实已经确定只有两个选项可供选择:(1)你预定的生物学特征与你的个人道德完全没有任何关系,或者(2)你的个人道德是预先确定的功能完全取决于您预定的生物学。 如果他实际上不接受这种二分法,那么我很奇怪为什么他从不竭尽全力承认他们之间的任何中间立场。

    • 回复: @UR2
  320. anon[335]• 免责声明 说:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “传统天主教徒”是心灵的一个类别。

    • 回复: @Intelligent Dasein
  321. 罗伯特·多兰:“无论如何,泰勒和琼斯都是真诚的活动家,他们尽最大努力帮助我们的事业。 ”

    真诚本身并不是美德。 犹太人和黑人真诚地希望白人死亡。 这是他们美德的标志还是他们的恶意? 同样,泰勒对美国历史的歪曲和彻头彻尾的谎言可能是真诚的,但散布这种谎言并没有什么好处,实际上与犹太人或黑人所做的任何事情一样恶毒。 事实是,一些 XNUMX 世纪的白人基督徒美国人不知何故鼓起勇气礼貌地询问黑人是否愿意离开这些海岸,而泰勒将其扭曲成“绝大多数”的强烈愿望白人来“驱逐”他们。 应该很明显,如果他们真的有这样的愿望,那么他们肯定会付诸行动。 但就像琼斯一样,这些善良的基督徒相信种族只是“思想的范畴”,而不是将黑人强行运出美国,而是给了他们公民身份和投票权。

    毫无疑问,他们是真诚的,我们今天仍然可以在我们周围看到他们的基督教真诚所带来的令人厌恶的结果。

    • 同意: HenryB
  322. UR2 说:
    @buckyinky

    这种二分法似乎归结为:我们是否有自由意志? 这就是为什么没有中间立场。 在由生物学决定的道德领域中,不可能做出任何决定。 那些不愿将自己的情感判断服从于理性的人是一大群人,他们希望为自己的失职找一个生物学上的借口。

    • 回复: @anon
  323. anon[403]• 免责声明 说:
    @UR2

    这种二分法似乎归结为:我们是否有自由意志?

    不,它没有。

  324. nickels 说:
    @Alexandros

    也许如果他没有拔出拳头,让盎格鲁人逃往敦刻尔克。
    那是一个愚蠢的错误。

    是的,斯大林让 Hi&&er 别无选择,只能战斗。
    我想说 25 万人的死亡是对德国人的一个很好的打击,但结果是浪费了两场最好的比赛来赢得那些讨厌的愚蠢的小黄蜂和他们爱黄金的小伙伴们的胜利。

  325. Malla 说:
    @AndrewR

    中共已经在美国收买了很多政客,尤其是民主党,共和党也收买很少,收买了好莱坞、NBA、一些媒体、一些社交媒体,还有一些韩国和日本的政客。 他们还收买了台湾的一些政客。 他们在印度收买了一些政客,但这完全没用,因为在印度支持中国在政治上是自杀。 群众会闻到老鼠的气味,永远不会投票给那个人。 印度对他们来说是不可能破解的,可能是世界上唯一的国家,因为大众对中国如此愤怒。

  326. anon[336]• 免责声明 说:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “人”只是心智的一个范畴。

  327. anarchyst 说:

    传统天主教与世界

    有很多关于传统天主教的错误信息需要解决。 为了做到这一点,我们必须审视传统天主教的“根源”,在这种“根源”中,罗马天主教堂直到耶稣基督死而复活后的几个世纪才被正式委任。

    首先,许多人错误地认为所有犹太教派都是一样的,耶稣基督是占主导地位的犹太教派法利赛派的成员。

    事实上,耶稣基督的血统是艾赛尼派的一部分,艾赛尼派是一个被法利赛人看不起的小犹太教派,但它信奉许多类似基督教的原则,这些原则与法拉赛教义相悖。 例如,与他们的法利赛人弟兄不同,艾赛尼派并不看不起或负面地看待“外人”或外邦人。

    这就是对天主教的大部分仇恨来自于那些怀有负面犹太敌意的人。 这是可以理解的,因为今天的天主教不仅免除了犹太人对耶稣基督被杀的责任,而且还创造了另一种虚构,即犹太人是“我们的长兄”,从而使犹太人在天主教圈子中受到“尊重”,尽管犹太人对他们充满了尖刻的仇恨。直到今天,全世界的天主教徒和基督徒仍然如此。 梵蒂冈二世之前的天主教并没有为耶稣基督的死赦免犹太人。 这一切都随着梵蒂冈二世的“政变”而改变。

    梵蒂冈二世大公会议在(试图)摧毁传统天主教方面做了很多工作,他们在这方面取得了部分成功。 那些在梵蒂冈二世时期成年或长大的天主教徒不知道所造成的变化既涵盖又破坏了传统的天主教教义和教义。

    有许多天主教徒从未参加过 Tridentine 弥撒,这比为今天的天主教徒规定的 Novus Ordo 弥撒更具表现力和美丽。 事实上,现任“教皇”正试图限制并最终禁止庆祝三叉戟弥撒。

    这是梵蒂冈二世的结果,实际上是犹太人和新教徒的政变。

    幸运的是,有些天主教教派仍然赞同梵蒂冈二世之前的教义。 尽管罗马试图将他们边缘化并最终禁止他们的做法,但他们正在蓬勃发展。

    有一些关于天主教的谎言需要纠正。

    一个是天主教徒向圣徒祈祷……事实并非如此。 天主教徒崇敬圣人,但不向他们祈祷。 圣人被视为过着模范生活,是值得效仿的好榜样。 那些为信仰献出生命的殉道者尤其受到尊重。

    另一个谬论是天主教徒在他们的教堂里有圣经禁止的“雕刻图像”。 没有东西会离事实很远。 圣经中并未禁止雕刻图像。

    据说天主教徒不遵守圣经。 天主教徒确实参考了圣经,但不要按字面意思遵守。 我们不要忘记圣经是人写的,为了支持某种观点而修改了许多段落,这是建立(和重写)国王詹姆斯版本以促进和编纂“国王的权利”——皇室的一个很好的例子超越平民的权利。
    最近,一个名叫斯科菲尔德的骗子写了他对圣经的解释,将犹太人提升到了他们今天的至上主义地位。
    可悲的是,新教徒已经购买了斯科菲尔德对圣经的解释,“钩线和坠子……不好。 这就是为什么天主教徒承认圣经应该被用作参考,而不是像人写的、被人解释和重新解释的神的话。

    让我们来看看被一些人认为是“出狱”卡或“犯罪”许可的“放纵”。 尽管他们过去曾受到虐待,但赎罪券取决于接受他们的人所做的“善行”。 放纵不是通往天堂的捷径,也不应该被认为是这样。 是的,过去存在虐待行为,在某些情况下直到今天仍然存在,其中之一是婚姻无效。 由于天主教会明确禁止离婚,因此废除离婚是绕过禁止离婚的一种简单方法。 废止,当成功宣布不存在有效婚姻时,大多数情况下不成熟被宣布为理由。 当然,对教会的大笔“捐赠”(放纵)可以“润滑”并获得废止批准。 这是天主教需要研究的领域之一。

    与新教的另一个不同之处是命令天主教徒做好“好事”。 新教教导说,只有上帝的恩典才能保证“得救”,而“善行”绝对不能保证得救。 在新教教义下,一个人可能是一个不做善事的害羞者,他一生都在利用他的同胞的不公平和犯罪优势,然后在临终前宣布他的“宽恕”请求,他将“保存”。 那张照片肯定有问题……

    新教徒似乎忘记了,是天主教会建立了医院、高等院校,如高等院校,并采用科学原理引导人类,利用科学观察和原理造福全人类。 即使“善行”不适用于救恩,它们也不会受到伤害。

    当谈到肆无忌惮的资本主义时,资本主义新教领袖的许多成功(他们变得非常富有,超出了大多数人的梦想)无情地行使着他们的权力,而不考虑他们的同胞。 狗咬狗的资本主义是当时的规则——支付给你的工人最低限度的工资,甚至不足以维持生存,同时为自己攫取财富。 这是天主教徒在商业上不如新教徒成功的原因之一。 天主教的教义要求调节肆无忌惮的资本主义,需要注意自己的同胞——而不是新教伦理。

    至于教皇的首要地位,无误性是一种较新的现象,值得质疑。 无误性仅适用于信仰的文章和教义,而不适用于社会问题。 教皇不能改变天主教的基本戒律。 最近,主流媒体将教皇在社会问题上的声明视为无懈可击——完全不是真的。 教皇和其他任何人一样是一个人,当涉及到当今的社会问题时,他很容易做出判断错误。 然而,天主教教义是不能改变的。

    我试图纠正许多好人对天主教会和信仰的误解。 我欢迎对我的断言和声明作出回应。

  328. chrimony 说:
    @Angharad

    我确实为他喊出泰勒这个具有颠覆性的欺骗性魔像而鼓掌。 我不明白为什么泰勒的追随者没有看到他的欺诈行为。

    这是纯度在最坏的情况下螺旋式上升。 当被问及“犹太人问题”时,泰勒承认犹太人对白人社会产生了不当的负面影响。 但他采取了战略立场,不被视为在太多问题上的怪人。 他已经因为他对白人民族主义的倡导而站在了一个壁架上。 但他不会四处捍卫犹太人。 现在将其与 E. Michael Jones 进行比较,后者抨击泰勒没有喊出犹太人,但随后提出了最荒谬的论点,即种族只是“思想的构建”,并抨击那些在种族现实中打交道的人。

  329. 我怀疑是否存在次要文化特征的遗传硬连线,例如生育私生子的倾向等; 请注意这些行为在近几十年来跨越种族和民族界限的转变。 但是在种族和族裔社区中起作用的心理力量是如此普遍和强大,以至于他们可能是天生的。 当像“黑人”这样的“身份”变得根深蒂固时,无论是在 DNA 中,还是在脑细胞和神经节中,都可能没有实际差异。

    • 回复: @anon
  330. anon[346]• 免责声明 说:
    @James Solbakken

    我怀疑是否存在次要文化特征的遗传硬连线,例如生育私生子的倾向等;

    为什么?

  331. jojodancer 说:

    认为其他大多数犹太人支持芭芭拉·勒纳·斯佩克特的观点是一个很大的错误。 有许多拉比表达犹太人至上主义的观点,认为他们也代表犹太人的多数观点是错误的。 二战后,西欧的犹太人过着自由繁荣的生活。 只有随着穆斯林移民的大量涌入,这种生活方式才在 21 世纪的欧洲受到威胁。 我觉得 Spectre 女士令人厌恶和卑鄙。 她竟敢假装为大多数犹太人说话! 为什么大多数散居国外的犹太人想要弄脏他们居住的欧洲巢穴?

    • 回复: @mark green
    , @anarchyst
  332. “我怀疑是否存在次要文化特征的遗传硬连线,例如生育私生子的倾向等;” 我怀疑是否存在次要文化特征的遗传硬连线,例如生育私生子的倾向等;

    为什么? ”

    我在接下来的句子中说了为什么“请注意这些行为在最近几十年中跨越种族和民族界限的变化。”

    混蛋的白人率比之前的黑人混蛋率要高。 你如何解释白人和黑人? 白人越来越黑,是的,但不是因为白人 DNA 的变化。 白人正在恢复与黑人更接近的原始形式,现在白人比过去的黑人更加原始和野蛮。 我将其称为“Devolution”,以纪念我在 1980 年代曾经喜欢的乐队。

    许多后现代人无法理解约翰·洛克 (John Locke) 所说的人类理解是“白纸”时试图解释的内容。 洛克绝对不是说种族和繁育对个人及其个性没有影响,也不是说种族和繁育对文明的形态和形式和实质没有影响。 他试图解释的是一种认识论理论:我们不是天生就知道伦敦金融城是什么,它在哪里,它来自哪里,或者为什么它很重要。 我们通过“经验”学习这些细节。 我们被告知,或者如果我们文明和受过教育,我们会阅读有关伦敦金融城的信息,然后形成对它的看法。 一个英国血统的人可能会更喜欢这个地方,而来自爱尔兰的人一旦在他出生前发现了几个世纪以来发生的事情,就更有可能讨厌这个地方。

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Hibernian
  333. mark green 说:
    @jojodancer

    我觉得 [Barbara] Spectre 女士令人厌恶和卑鄙。 她竟敢假装为大多数犹太人说话! 为什么大多数散居国外的犹太人想要弄脏他们居住的欧洲巢穴?

    大多数宗教犹太人(以及许多“世俗”犹太人)相信,犹太预言预示(并要求)在上帝命定的(犹太)弥赛亚来临之前将 goyim 混合在一起。 这些预言宣称只有犹太人才能保留他们作为一个民族的独特性。 这个已经写完了。 这种宗教观点解释了为什么世俗犹太人和宗教犹太人都喜欢大规模的非白人移民进入戈伊斯世界(但从来没有在以色列)。

    许多犹太人(包括 Gideon Levy 和 Israel Shahak)也相信,许多自称为犹太“无神论者”的人暗中希望(并相信)犹太人先于上帝。 他们私下认为上帝偏爱犹太人而不是外邦人。 这解释了为什么犹太人(宗教和世俗的)在与非犹太人的对手打交道时如此不妥协和无情。 犹太人很特别。 他们是上帝的选民! 大多数犹太人(宗教的以及“世俗的”)都暗中坚持这种世界观。 对他们来说,支配外邦人强调了这一格言。

  334. Rocha 说:

    饿死爱尔兰天主教徒的不是黑人或亚洲人。 把白人荷兰新教徒关进南非集中营的不是黑人和亚洲人,当然也不是天主教徒。 不是黑人或亚洲人在两次世界大战结束后继续封锁德国城市,并让无辜平民饿死。
    在日本这两个天主教徒集中的城市投下原子弹的不是黑人或亚洲人。 不是黑人或亚洲人在克里米亚站在奥斯曼帝国一边反对白人俄罗斯,也不是将鸦片推给中国人。 不是黑人和亚洲人通过非法入侵正在摧毁中东的千年文明,这是基督教的发源地。
    有一个种族对更多的白人基督教欧洲人的死亡负责(他们计算出 100, 百万人在 2WW 中死亡),那就是白人盎格鲁撒克逊新教徒,他们在过去 300 年里为高利贷者提供了力量。 没有 WASPS 和穆斯林,犹太人将无能为力。

    • 回复: @anon
    , @Hibernian
  335. anon[254]• 免责声明 说:
    @Rocha

    天主教社区服务一直在悄悄地将南美洲和中美洲的非法天主教徒涌入红州,由美国纳税人支付费用。 难怪 EMJ 准备像他的统治阶级 WASP Woke 邻居一样,把贫穷的、工作的和中产阶级的白人扔到公共汽车下面。

    • 回复: @Rocha
  336. anon[277]• 免责声明 说:
    @James Solbakken

    我在接下来的句子中说了为什么“请注意这些行为在最近几十年中跨越种族和民族界限的变化。”

    我建议你学习 r/K 策略。 然后考虑阿尔卑斯山以北的农业与撒哈拉以南的农业之间的差异。 犁必须用在什么地方? 锄头在哪里就够了? 锄头经济中的男人如何与其他男人竞争? 犁式经济中的人如何做同样的事情?

    查找 r / K 和 Hajnal 线。

    许多后现代人无法理解约翰·洛克 (John Locke) 所说的人类理解是“白纸”时试图解释的内容。 洛克绝对不是说种族和繁殖对个人及其个性没有影响,也不是说种族和繁殖对形状和形式和实质没有影响……

    请提供一些支持此主张的约翰·洛克 (John Locke) 的引述。 我注意到洛克从未结婚,也从未有过孩子,因此限制了他的知识基础。

    珍贵的白板在美国已被珍爱50多年,每一项政策都倾心于“养育规则,自然流口水”的Procrustean床。 它奏效了吗? Head Start 已经存在了 50 多年,一个又一个研究又一个研究表明,Head Start 的孩子在三年级之前并不比非 Head Start 的孩子更博学或更擅长学习。 怎么可能? 这 珍贵 Tabula Rasa 多年来一直由充满爱心、善良的 Head Start 教师编写,他们的课程丰富。 然而,他们在白板上写的东西在几年后就会消失。

    不是差异的差异就是没有差异。

    您想从事养犬业吗? 我建议你准备一些吉娃娃和几只灵缇犬。 确保所有的幼崽都在同一个领域一起饲养。 如果您的信仰是正确的,吉娃娃将学会像赛狗一样跑得快。 他们一定! 想想你的吉娃娃参加赛狗会赚多少钱!

    It 必须 那样工作,因为赛狗的速度会写满小家伙的 Tabula Rasa。 一定是真的,因为 珍贵 Tabula Rasa 不能以任何其他方式拥有现实。

    什么可能出错? 怎么可能不发财?

    • 回复: @James Solbakken
  337. Druide 说:
    @Pierre Simon

    请注意,《犹大山羊》中有一部分是派博根据法庭命令被迫从书中摘除的。 这本书经过审查的部分是关于贾里德泰勒和他的密友马克韦伯是骗子和情报资产,与 ADL 和中央情报局有关,就像与摩萨德有关的知名科学教派(因为现在的邪教是以色列通过布朗夫曼家族掌握的) )。 这本书经过审查的部分可以在互联网上免费获得,标题为“Coup d'Etat”,作者是 Michael Collins Piper。 派珀去世后,卡罗琳·耶格尔在她的节目和博客上讨论了这个问题。

  338. @anon

    “珍贵的白板在美国已被珍藏了 50 多年,”

    错误是将 tabula rasa 解释为 tabulas 之间没有区别。 将其视为一台计算机与另一台计算机。 并非所有计算机都具有相同的硬件、相同的内存容量、相同的处理速度等。但是,无论计算机多么强大,在您提供输入之前,它都一无所知。 和人一样。 天生就有巨大的差异,但在输入来自洛克所说的“经验”之前,没有人知道任何特别的东西。

    如果这个哲学原则超出了你的头脑,那么抱歉打扰你了。 如果你认为 tabula rasa 意味着可以教吉娃娃跑过赛狗,我真的为你感到难过。

    • 回复: @anon
  339. Rocha 说:
    @anon

    是 WASPS 杀死的欧洲基督徒比任何其他群体都多。也许如果你没有像你在中东所做的那样摧毁他们的国家来强加中央银行,他们就不会觉得有必要迁移。 你们 WASPS 以银行家和民主的名义犯下的罪行!

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  340. anon[561]• 免责声明 说:
    @James Solbakken

    错误是将 tabula rasa 解释为 tabulas 之间没有区别

    那是种族主义。 所有表格都完全相同。 这就是为什么黑人和白人之间结果的任何差异只能归因于堕落的、有偏见的种族主义......白人种族主义。 你不想成为种族主义者,是吗? 当然不是。

    如果你认为 tabula rasa 意味着可以教吉娃娃跑过赛狗,我真的为你感到难过。

    逻辑是心智的一个范畴。

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Reductio_ad_absurdum

    我注意到你没有费心提供你对洛克的 Tabula Rasa 的解释的参考。 也许是因为你不能这样做?

  341. “我注意到你没有费心提供你对洛克的 Tabula Rasa 的解释的参考。 是不是因为你做不到?”

    除了我读过的洛克的著作之外,没有特别的参考。 所以,阅读他的作品,尤其是他关于人类理解的论文,就会解释这个想法的来源。

    http://www.pinkmonkey.com/dl/library1/book1284.pdf

    • 回复: @anon
  342. anon[324]• 免责声明 说:
    @James Solbakken

    除了我读过的洛克的著作,没有特别的参考

    所以如果我重读 政府两论 我会以某种方式找到支持你声称的东西?

    LOL

    “Muh 参考是整本书!”......大声笑。

    你甚至还达不到西方文明 II 中的二年级论文的水平。 文科的标准已经严重下滑,但即使在今天,你的论文上也会出现红色墨水,并附有“见我在我的办公室”的说明。

    伙计,你做出了断言。 要么你用事实支持它,要么很明显你根本不能支持它。

    基本逻辑可能是大脑的一种构造,但你在这方面失败了。

    有你的狗了吗?

  343. ““Muh 参考是整本书!”......大声笑。 ”

    有的人用文字思考,有的人用句子思考,有的人用段落思考。 我认为在图书馆。 对不起,你跟不上。

  344. Hibernian 说:
    @James Solbakken

    ......而来自爱尔兰土地的人一旦在他出生前发现了几个世纪以来发生的事情,就更有可能讨厌这个地方。

    我的祖父是 1902 年 16 岁来到美国的爱尔兰反叛者,当我们的孩子问他要去哪里(总是去当地的一家小杂货店)时,他常常高兴地说:“我去伦敦见女王。”

  345. Hibernian 说:
    @Rocha

    尽量减少刻板印象。 通常被称为“WASPS”的人是白人、盎格鲁撒克逊人和新教徒中的一小部分,其中许多人长期与德国和斯堪的纳维亚新教徒、德国天主教徒以及恐怖的爱尔兰天主教徒混在一起。

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  346. Rocha 说:
    @Hibernian

    我的意思是白人盎格鲁撒克逊人,自 1694 年英格兰银行成立以来,他们为高利贷者提供了军事力量,以便在世界各国发行基于债务的货币。 没有盎格鲁撒克逊人的支持,犹太人将无能为力。

  347. anon[254]• 免责声明 说:
    @Rocha

    你黄蜂

    我不是黄蜂女。 关键是 EMJ 正在转向类似 WASP 的 Wokery。

  348. anarchyst 说:
    @jojodancer

    你的问题: /“为什么大多数散居国外的犹太人想要弄脏他们居住的欧洲巢穴?”/ 可以回答如下:
    有一种心理变态 “永远的受害者心态” 存在于犹太人的心理中,他们永远不会满足于“现状”, 不管这对他们有多么有利。 犹太人总是试图摧毁他们居住的占主导地位的白人外邦人经营的社会,总是保留“按照自己的方式行事”的“权利”,即使他们本质上是犯罪分子。 犹太人讨厌异教徒白人管理成功社会的概念,并尽其所能从内部摧毁这样的社会。 在中世纪,犹太人为了他们的血祭仪式(他们仍然这样做)在井里下毒并绑架外邦儿童。
    人们所要做的就是看看纽约乔尔基里亚斯的“仅限犹太人”社区,在那里,每一项“民权”法律和法规都被无视和藐视,而不受惩罚。 如果您不属于“部落”,则无法购买房产、将您的孩子送到“公立(仅限犹太人)学校”或参与他们的政治活动。 此外,许多纳税人欺诈计划和骗局都在那个(和其他仅限犹太人的)社区中使用,例如医疗保险欺诈、福利欺诈和其他犯罪活动。
    在国家层面,看看公共资助的“大屠杀™博物馆”(实际上是犹太怪胎表演)和节日期间公共财产上展示的大量犹太烛台。 地狱,甚至白宫也展示了一个大烛台。 在我看来,犹太人处于最前沿 “政教分离”,(不存在)对敢于允许基督教在公共财产上展示的社区提起诉讼。 既然 (((他们))) 已经成功地将基督教从公共领域消灭了,他们就公然蔑视他们在推动自己的“宗教”的同时将基督教赶出公共领域的“成功”。
    犹太人必须被拴在一条短皮带上,禁止从事某些职业(银行等),并禁止担任任何公职或政府职位。 必须假设犹太人持有 “双重忠诚” (对以色列)并且不能相信他们会为他们的收养国家美国的最大利益着想。

  349. Hgfbk83 说:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “生物种族主义者……”邓宁克鲁格 + 大规模洗脑 = 这个无知的底层饲养者。

    现实就是这样,你没有愚弄任何人。

  350. mc23 说:
    @Maximo Bianco

    欧洲人和欧美人,白色是一种描述

  351. @Bardon Kaldian

    然后,真正的欧洲白人有一个死亡愿望。 如何解释法伦和他的观众的胡说八道行为——而且他不是犹太人。

    的确。 自由派受骗的白人傻瓜显然是对文明的威胁。

    我认为他们的毒药来自想要“酷”。 所以他们喝了犹太人的 kool-aid,今天的味道是讨厌的白酒。

  352. 多年来,我一直理解 Jared 将 JQ 视为一种吸引更广泛受众的方法的策略。

    但是在视频的 1:47:55,贾里德似乎实际上为犹太人的有毒行为辩护和开脱。

    这是一种完全不同的立场,对于任何接近白人民族主义者的人来说都是不可接受的。 多年来我一直支持 Jared Taylor,但这可能是一个转折点。 他问这个问题我很不安。

    贾里德提出的问题大致如下:

    如果犹太人是最初将种族武器化的人,那么犹太人如何同时成为现在试图说服我们种族无关紧要的人?

    对于不知道这个问题答案的人来说……犹太人玩同一张牌的两面是为了对白人种族造成尽可能多的破坏。 一方面,他们以将种族武器化以引发冲突,羞辱白人以使其处于防御状态,为他们的民权运动辩护等形式传播有毒宣传。另一方面,他们否认种族的存在以合理化开放边界和大规模非白人移民,促进种族混合,否认白人拥有集体身份的基础等。 双手合十的结合导致大多数白人完全道德解除以抵抗犹太人的冲击摧毁白人社会的运动。

    犹太人玩这张种族牌的双方类似于他们在某些时候识别为白人,在其他时候根据情况识别为犹太人。 这是教科书式的卑鄙、欺骗和颠覆性的犹太人行为。

    而贾里德只是为他们辩护? 我是否正确解释了这一点?

  353. 去年我写了一篇关于琼斯信仰的概述。 他说他的使命是改变种族主义者和“纳粹”,因此他在这个网站上进行了一些传福音。 让我们不要忘记,琼斯还相信智商测试是虚构的,如果没有徽标,德国人会像非洲人一样生活。 这样的人怎么能在这些话题上被认真对待? 这些是一个死在羊毛自由主义者的论点。

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/04/20/the-logos-of-e-michael-jones/

  354. profnasty 说:

    琼斯博士提议将天主教作为道德/国家基础。 RC 教会有许多历史问题(罗马异教)。 它并不比更一般的“种族”标准更好的基础。
    种族融合是混血。
    玛加。

  355. Anon[134]• 免责声明 说:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    仔细查看链接中的每一个参考资料,无论您是否决定同意,您都会更清楚地了解琼斯先生的观点。

    以下哪个是指“白种人”、“黑种人”、“高加索人种”、“黑人”或“蒙古人种”?

    [更多]

    a) “亚伦的种族”

    b) “祭司种族”

    c) “你们族类中的每一个人,只要亲近那些被分别为圣的事物”

    d) “以色列民族”

    e) “Enac 种族”

    f) “巨人的种族”

    g) “利未族”

    h) “但族”

    i) “阿拉法种族”

    j) “亚甲族”

    k) “他的族类,那首先是由地球造成的”

    l) “你的种族(加包人)”,他们将成为“砍柴的,汲水的”

    m)“女性种族”

  356. Bill Jones 说:

    种族是一种虚构,当它真的很重要时,比如骨髓移植,它是他们筛选的第一件事。

  357. 琼斯先生,我非常感谢您为 JQ 所做的努力和工作。 你肯定可以“上学”
    贾里德·泰勒在这个问题上,除了他之外,所有人都清楚。 被警告,他是顽固的
    无法理解或承认理解犹太人不是白人。

    类似地,他可以就生物种族差异和可能的炼金术转化的可能性向您进行教育。

    也就是说,如果一个犹太人通过洒圣水皈依基督教,
    仪式和咒语,他的基因和基本人格特征在以前保持不变
    之后。

    此外,任何正在或已经被迫或声称要皈依基督教的人确实
    并不意味着无论皈依的程度或强度如何,他们实际上都成为真正的基督徒
    涉及的处理。 从历史上看,皈依宗教只是一种权宜之计。 在伊斯兰教中,要么皈依要么死亡(除非缴纳异教徒税)。 皈依不是爱、意志或信仰的问题,而是生存。 我建议那些支付异教徒税的人默默地受到穆斯林的尊重,因为他们没有出卖自己的宗教信仰,因为他们可以选择。

    琼斯先生,我在你的一个专业领域支持你,但不支持另一个领域。

    ps 顺便问一下,你熟悉呆伯特的角色“大声霍华德”吗?

  358. 哇,这真是大开眼界! 不要只阅读琼斯对自己的片面记录,观看嵌入的视频,这样你就会看到他在“反驳”什么。 在看到这个之前,我以为他是反对“犹太人”的重要声音,反对西方仇恨,否定西方,消灭西方的颠覆,但不,他实际上是他们的代表,甚至可能是他们的腐败代理人,就像几乎我见过的所有其他天主教徒。 我不会再叫他“医生”了,只叫“琼斯”。 他不再评价我的那种敬意。

    它说明了他从“虚构是真实的”的专利错觉开始建立论点的一切。 这是一个迷失在纯思想的幻想世界中的人,不再明白现实与“辩证法”不同并且总是胜过它。 他对“徽标”的喋喋不休总是让我觉得过于理智化的宗教狂热腐烂。

    生物学就是现实。 优生学家、社会达尔文主义者等一直是 100% 正确的。 我们无视他们是危险的,而像琼斯这样领导这样做的人是一种威胁。

  359. Nancy 说:

    闪亮一点澄清...... EMJ 与 JT 辩论的回顾...... (如果你仍然对思维和生物学的类别感到困惑...... :)

    https://odysee.com/@E.MichelJones:f/The-Crucible-E.-Michael-Jones-vs.-Jared-Taylor-Recap-:3

  360. Nancy 说:
    @Anonymous

    我同意白蚁所服务的总体双重道德,并成功隐藏。 回复:关于“如何”完成对美国的“拯救”,在对坩埚(Odysee)的辩论结束时,当征求策略时,EMJ 从消除任何双重公民的政府就业开始。 毫无疑问,但是...... 又是谁来领导这次游行? 有任何好的“模因”(显然这是“政治漫画”的新名称……一种非常有效的交流工具,通常包含尖锐的幽默🙂 对于新手来说,一张图片真的值 1 字。

  361. Nancy 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    罗伯特,作为摇篮天主教徒,我怀疑你和我一样住在西雅图。 并与 EMJ (Bitchute) 在他的采访中核对:第二个增值税委员会,这是犹太人的颠覆。 并为所有上帝的孩子祈祷...... 我们需要每一个人!

  362. Anonymous[208]• 免责声明 说:

    琼斯怎么会期望任何人相信他实际上愚蠢到可以相信他不断滑倒并向所有人展示他显然很聪明时所发表的胡说八道?

  363. anon[390]• 免责声明 说:
    @Angharad

    听说过吗?

    以色列国家(课程)与 Rav Michael Laitman:

  364. eby 说:

    在我们能够在欺诈的背景下讨论宗教和在情报的背景下讨论“种族”之前,未来将在隧道尽头看不到光。

  365. 杰瑞德·泰勒 (Jared Taylor) 谈论白人的“至高无上”,否认基督教在强大的西方文化的形成中具有至高无上的重要性,这是非同寻常的。

    他满意地指出,古希腊人和古罗马人不是基督徒,却建立了他们的文明,是西方文明的先驱。

    顺便说一句,有许多非基督教的古代文明可以与罗马和希腊相提并论,包括印度、中国、日本、波斯、墨西哥(各种类型)等。

    泰勒显然不是任何类型的基督徒,因为他与一个不是妻子的“伴侣”组织了家庭生活,通过通奸,他有了两个孩子。

    或许,在上帝的宏伟计划中,上帝正在等待耶稣的到来最能传播他的信息的那一刻,使用各种前身希腊和罗马文明/帝国,导致本丢彼拉多,他宣布了将耶稣送上十字架的决定性命令.

    没有彼拉多,就没有钉十字架;没有耶稣的钉十字架,就没有基督教的救恩。 罗马和希腊的角色可能是存在的,以协助和准备这场圣经革命。

    对于像泰勒和他的许多追随者一样聪明和博学的人来说,他们从未想出这种似是而非的历史分析线索。
    Kidist 保罗斯·阿斯拉特
    https://artandcommentarybykidist.blogspot.com/

  366. Anon[129]• 免责声明 说:
    @Robert Dolan

    胖 HR 女士仍然会为任何明显不是别的东西的人勾选“白色”框。

    你们所有人都错过了“白色”的基本定义,它在南非得到了很好的编纂:

    任何明显是白人的人 或采取白色=

    白色是一个错误的类别,因为我可以带很多爱尔兰人并在头上缠上头巾,产生一个穆斯林。 它在最广泛的意义上是真实的,但在欧洲、北非、近东、欧亚大陆等之间高度模糊。

    重要的不是“种族”,而是发展。

  367. @UR2

    你到处都是狗屎。

    YES, it IS solid that you can track success and crime by using race and IQ.

    You have ZERO intellectual integrity.

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