好文章。

These institutions have outlived their usefulness–all that remains is the zombies screaming in the hallways.

(My alma mater with the insane endowment still calls me asking for money–They must think their graduates are _really_ stupid!)

A College Degree was not a hard and fast requirement for at least 95% of jobs in the 1960’s.

Standardized College Entrance Tests (ACT, SAT) scores starting in the late 1970’s became an objective measure of a student’s capability.

HR Managers in the late 1980’s became the gatekeepers extraordinaire into many corporate postings. The fact that interviews became less of ‘what you know’ and more ‘what school you went to’ corrupted the merit factor in hiring.

The resulting pressure on students to ‘get the right degree from the right school’ was enough to empower University Deans seeking to improve their economics to act as ‘college mafia’ dons, with the attendant skyrocketing of college costs… coupled with the dumbing down to allow more minorities to ‘pass’, further distanced college education status from knowledge and merit to properly work.

What really caused all this?

Money as the decision factor that trumped all others.

I agree college has become far too expensive. In fact, parents would be well advised to spend their education dollars earlier on private high schools and or tutors to make sure their kids master algebra, geometry and a basic science like chemistry. I understand that is more or less how it works in Japan. Students admitted to University there are so well prepared they can basically coast to their degree.

Its a pity the NYT , WaPo and magazines like the Economist have gone full PC/Woke but reading such publications does increase one’s vocabulary and writing skills. R. Emmett Tyrrell’s American Spectator did more to increase my vocabulary than all the English Lit classes I took in high school so parents might want to subscribe to more magazines and less Netflix or Call of Duty video games and get their kids to read them. There are real wars and power struggles going on in the world. I could tell you how many Americans were killed and wounded each week in Vietnam and what the situation was along the Suez Canal and Golan Heights because I was nearing draft age and it mattered to me personally.

是的。在美国，知识分子生活一直由洋基派[1]主导，他们被非正式地称为“新英格兰人”，这个地区位于纽约市以北，现在从事洋基社会学研究的地区就是从这里定居的。美国其他地区一直专注于商业和各种农业，并将智力追求视为富人和愚人的休闲活动。在新英格兰早期，神学是占主导地位的知识追求，并被普遍认为对整个人类的生存和个体人类的灵魂至关重要。
当然是这样。在新英格兰的气候下，社会团结（尽管不是凝聚力）对于生存至关重要。富有成效的工作和缺乏内乱首先带来了生存，然后带来了繁荣。投入神学的智力努力也应用于物理现实的管理，并使农村人口能够耕种高度边缘化的土地，这意味着对于今天所使用的工具集来说，人口密度似乎高得惊人。
这将新英格兰的突破带向西部（参见地图，[1]）并进入现在的领土。

然而，洋基队有几个缺陷[2]。一种是倾向于将事物视为绝对善或绝对恶。这有助于维持一群意志坚强、高度独立的人的社会团结（他们个人相信自己是根据事实为自己的最大利益行事），但也导致了过度行为：塞勒姆女巫审判、辉格党努力应用洋基水平的组织对美国其他社会学地区的影响、一神论普遍主义的出现、内战（提前 0.6 年结束法律认可的奴隶制导致 3 万人死亡），以及（跳过其他一些项目）当前对“不分种族”的支持”和“无国界”。曾经带来（并且在某种程度上仍然存在）统一的北方社会的同样信念已经转变为压倒性的知识分子骄傲的罪恶。你不能和这些人说话——他们不听[3]。他们经过深思熟虑、彻底讨论并确信他们是对的。他们为什么要听取没有经历过这个过程的人的意见？

如此新的他们又失败了。与《香蕉》中的独裁者一样：

教育是好的，所以任何为教育付费的东西都是好的，无论如何，性工作是赋权的：
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-20/these-are-top-colleges-sugar-babies

这就是洋基队和洋基王国的情况[1]。他们被自己的普遍主义信念所困扰，而这种信念得到了社会组织的全力支持。纽约市/市区正在失去除了左海岸[1]之外的唯一盟友，而左海岸也有自己的麻烦。再见，祝你好运，愿你有一天能对其他美国社会学保持一点谦逊。

从更广泛的角度来看，目前美国政治建制派的一半联盟正在走向失败。如果没有洋基队作为知识分子的执行者，整个后现代主义/SJW运动就会变成一群冒充美国人的侵略性外国人的乌合之众，但他们并不属于任何美国社会学的组成部分。他们只有纽约市（地图上的“新荷兰”）领导的城市联盟。一旦它们作为政治权力来源的效用消失并且不再产生税收收入，纽约市和城市联盟就会将它们卖给任何购买者（或将它们放弃并假装无辜），并且毫不犹豫。

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1] http://www.colinwoodard.com/files/ColinWoodard_AmericanNations_map.pdf

2] 南方人也是如此，但他们却在自己的缺点上行走。 （口音笑话）

3]科幻设定：
看看。一台旧的帝国人工智能计算机！我想知道它是什么类型的？
B：哲学家机器
A：你怎么能这么快就说出来呢？
B：有输出外设，但无输入。

Despite your “frivolous” description of the Humanities, Hague gets it right: only the Humanities provide EDUCATION, properly so called (as Plato and Aquinas would have agreed); the rest provide TRAINING, a kind of high-IQ barber college.

Whatever the value of various “conservative” nostrums regarding What When Wrong, (Jews, Masons, the Enlightenment, Communism, etc.) the root cause of the modern crisis is the ignoring and forgetting of this fact.

But why would Brits come to US Universities? This is where the rot started and is most advanced. I guess it’s like all the Americans we’ve known who brag about their year at Oxford. To a Brit parent Berkeley just sounds exotic and learned. To US graduates it’s another dysfunctional shadow of past quality.

我的耶稣会高中、普林斯顿大学、牛津大学和哈佛大学向我提供的希腊和罗马经典教育无疑使我能够思考。

The dissolution of the monasteries in England was a tragedy. Institutions, however corrupt, whose reason for being was providing charitable works for the general population, were privatized, and went into the hands of the monarch, the nobles, and the gentry. It was indeed a taxpayers’ revolt, and it had much the same disastrous results as privatization and taxpayers’ revolts have today.

我曾经看到一则求助广告，上面写着：“需要学士学位。 涉及一些繁重的工作。”。 我想知道这样的广告有多普遍。

Pretty sure it was the result of making hiring exams by companies illegal that caused all this.

Super high chance of that move being deliberate and calculated.

Which is why I hate affirmative action with a passion.

It is all related.

英国教育仍然是世界上大多数国家的黄金标准，我不知道这种情况会持续多久。

But a key problem with the Left is that they are, like Plato, essentialists. They assume that we live in a world of fixed forms.

But a key problem with your article is your simplistic notion of a Left-Right spectrum.

Where you have written “the Left” you needed to write, “the idle rich”. That’s who they are. We are back in the mid-19th century, when society was divided between the super-rich who lived in mansions and the super-poor who camped on the streets. That is the USA today. That society gave rise to the 共产党宣言.

Your “anti-science Social Justice Warriors” are not the Left. They are, as I said the idle rich. Who else would they be? (Not super-rich, perhaps, but comfortable enough, having nothing of importance before them, so needing to invent something.) Are they concerned about those living on the streets? Is that what they are lobbying about? Is that what they destroy careers for? No.

I have a copy (can’t find it now) of a later 19th-century edition (in reprint) of the 共产党宣言, with an introduction by Engels.

Engels in his introduction explains why they were unable to call their work the Socialist Manifesto. The reason was that by about 1840 the meaning of “socialism” had degenerated. As I say, the copy is not to hand, but one phrase he used (in translation) stands out on my memory. The “socialists” of the era were in reality multifarious social quacks. They were not concerned about the plight of the workers, which is what the Manifesto is all about. A different word was needed.

The same applies today to the SJWs campaigning for “social progress”. They are not campaigning for those sleeping on the streets of the cities of California. They are not building affordable housing. They are not calling for boycott of Walmart. Their full weight goes in support of the super-sensitive who may be offended by the objective topics and words of the non-compliant academics. Heartlessly, they destroy careers for nothing.

That is not the Left. The SJWs, better called the SJQs, the Social Justice Quacks, are of the Right. If you want to use the simplistic notion of a spectrum.

像往常一样，这类文章忽略了现代学术界的社会学现实。它不是一个可以“切掉”以揭示其下面的“实体经济”的表面肿瘤——现代学术界是一个超越大学的网络的一部分，并包含大量参与风险降低、屁股覆盖、评估的“专业人士” （教育、社会服务、人力资源、卫生、军事）。而且，“私营”部门（就大型跨国公司而言这个名称的价值而言）并不缺乏大量的中层管理人员、行话制造者和屁股掩护者。是的，许多从事此类工作的人生活在南方并投票支持特朗普。

这就是当代“先进”资本主义，而不是对它的歪曲！如果你开始削减它，你就会剥夺一大批“中产阶级”。您希望他们做什么？木工？我不确定答案是什么，但显然安德鲁·杨至少一直在思考这个问题。

My alma mater is Penn State, and most of its alumni are indeed educated idiots reliving their glory days at the Cathedral of Beaver Stadium. I look forward to the day the bubble bursts there Used to be a good, solid school. Now it’s run by a bunch of tenured SJWs in need of unemployment.

One thing that will make university bubble burst here in the states is that H1 visas holders are increasingly staffing the STEM jobs. Why go into debt for a job you won’t ever get?

我本以为是俄语或德语。

正是通过大学，极左派成为了新的政治机构。 1960 世纪 XNUMX 年代后，一旦大学成为一党制国家，西方文明也成为一党制国家。

大学培养了我们的官僚、教师、记者、律师、法官、艺术家和艺人。这就是现代国家的真正力量所在。这就是为什么你投票给谁并不重要。

政客和政党来来去去。真正的力量是无法收回的。

这与柏拉图关于自由开放的思想交流场所的愿景完全相反。

因此，我们应该希望作者的感情能够实现。取消对大学的资助将是削弱一党制国家的良好第一步。

Nah, you’re wrong, James. The study of engineering and the sciences are not “training”. Perhaps you never took a “weed-out” physics or fluid dynamics class. The students would certainly LIKE it to be done as training, being spoon-fed formulas and rubrics (“rubrics” is the new big thing), but the amount of serious thinking/contemplating and visualization needed to do well is at a level that you coffee-shop-barist majors can’t come close to.

Actually, I wrote that last part just as an insult – I really think there IS a place for the humanities, but not for anything near 50% of the US population, attending for 4-6 years while accumulating 50 Large in debt guaranteed by the American taxpayer.

“Pretty sure it was the result of making hiring exams by companies illegal that caused all this.”

Absolutely correct. And they did this because of disparate impact. Impartial tests were just too revealing of essential differences. Idiology [sic] trumps reality.

Teachers spoon feed students a textbook. Now you can get books online free and read them yourself. Many students use the internet to cheat with and some use it to grow with. There is a greater divide now. Some students are super smart, well educated and informed, and then you have a lot of dumb shallow trolls, brainwashed to repeat what they are told, like the climate change children. You nailed it on the shallow snowflake generation. A product of the no fail education system. Because failing would hurt their extremely fragile self esteem. So, illiterates were given High School diplomas. Some sued the schools. There is a divide. Pre internet scholarship is now considered shallow. Many pre internet books with tiny bibliographies, would not pass muster in High School. A good post internet book is much more noted with a much larger bibliography. Same with degrees. Many pre internet degrees as less valuable than a post internet degree, if they did not cheat. Cheaters are exposed in any interview. Since the internet the old lies and propaganda of the left is completely exposed and worthless. No one in their right mind would spend a dime for a college class still spewing out the old lies.

I’ve got to assume now that this Lance Welton is a British guy, though the short bio. says “a freelance journalist living in New York.” It’s just that all the numbers and much of the other examples he gives are for the UK. Is that from Mr. Brimelow’s 1993 “福布斯” 刊文 that VDare republished today? (Mr. Brimelow wrote his “Are Universities Necessary?” without even taking the internet into account (for obvious reasons – it was 1993).

That aside, I agree with the gist of this (will read Peter Brimelow’s old article later today), though I think the financial aspect of the whole “University Bubble” is more important, at least in America.. Writer Steve Penfield, here on the unz blog, published
“Student Debt Cancellation: A Good Idea and a Political Hoax” about a week back. It is VERY comprehensive with discussion of every aspect of the finance of current-day American higher education. The only thing I don’t agree with is his conclusion! I recommend the reading of Penfield’s long article nonetheless.

One could do worse than read 峰值愚蠢 on the University Bubble. Some short posts (in order) on the subject are:

大学泡沫101,
University Bubble 99 –美国的补救性全球金融愚蠢,
University Bubble 99 – U的补救GFS –第2部分,
University Bubble 99 – U的补救GFS –第3部分及
University Bubble 99 – Part 4 (Conclusion, it’s not a PERFECT STORM),

I never made it clear that I also think the University system as it functions today is obsolete. There are better ways. However, the entrenched interests, bureaucracy and alumni will fight hard to keep the status quo. That is, until the financial stupidity that supports the whole thing stops. That will happen when more and more parents realize what a boondoggle it is that they are being told to sign on the line for.

In the meantime, new buildings go up, more Deans of Diversity are hired in, and freshman class size is increased every year. Watch out, if you live nearby – it’s gonna pop hard!

The anglophone part of the world.
And, as another commenter wrote, the US is where the rot set in after the war.

Humanities would be a lot better for students if it didn’t teach them to be inhuman.

Objective example: NASA fellowship, long time ago. We had humanities types in the group that decided, all on their own, to have a “humanities party” separate from all the non-humanities types. Hard to interpret that as anything except snobbery which, while human, isn’t thought of as one of the virtues supposedly taught by the humanities.

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That is excellent news as many reports predict that by the mid 2020s, at least half of all colleges will close.

a bunch of tenured SJWs in need of unemployment.

Beautifully put, sir.
Wish I had come up with that one myself.

But why would Brits come to US Universities?

Because 90% of them are too lazy to learn a foreign language.

That article needed to be written, as the concept of a University has been in dissolution for a long time, in my opinion beginning in the 1960s in earnest. That was the time of student revolts, directly after the soul-destroying war, when, materially it was possible to live quite free of care, and at the same time a sense of meaninglessness was persistently imbuing everything in life. The authority of academic teachers in their subject was attacked by a vociferous minority of students who ostensibly were there to exercise and hone their intellectual faculties, yet did not just not attend a lecture, they prevented it altogether. The rejection of authority of knowledge (a professor simply knows a lot more about the subject than students) spread outside of the universities. And it was the Left clamoring for lowering of admission standards with the results in all their twisted interconnectedness as we see them today. Admitting theoretically everyone into university when 100 years ago perhaps 5 % of the population could meet the intellectual standards for it must lead to an internal error. The standards and rigor must fall, an attitude of flippancy in teaching will follow and the pursuit of knowledge will become trivialized and doubtful. The intellectual output of universities has not been impressive for decades, and the intermediate use of them as tax-funded basic research institutions for the benefit of industry is petering out. Professors are now gladly willing to sign petitions against their colleagues who don’t follow the latest path of required ideological interest and insight (I am thinking of Richard Duchesne or Kevin MacDonald).
对于更加进化和聪明的学生来说，安全空间的概念一定是一个尴尬。怀疑越来越多，大学作为高等教育机构的概念基础和为未来做准备的基础正在崩溃。这个概念不仅有一件事是错误的，很多事情都是错误的。
与此同时，大学的建设也掀起了疯狂的热潮。所有的钱从哪里来？

Same here. I’m a grad of PA’s State University System (formerly State Teachers Colleges). They are located all over the state and are far too numerous to remain viable. They are all begging for any warm bodies to go there, and I don’t think they turn any applicant down. Instead of shutting some down, which will happen one day regardless, they keep increasing tuition and fees, and pleading to the taxpayers for more money every year. Problem is, like any overgown government institution, they still have way too much power in Harrisburg.

Money as the decision factor that trumped all others.

It was the decisive driver, agreed.

An enabler was the Uniterian Universalist (UU) conviction that all people would eventually be saved by God, and the New England strong influence or dominance in the universities. This enabled the universities to tell themselves that all applicants were essentially equal (since they would all be saved), and that lowering standards and difficulty was really a moral act, since more students would be gain the advantages of certification. Granted, there would be losses also, but treating students more the way God treated everybody was thought to be more important than the losses. It’ has the same structure as the open borders idea.

This kind of thinking is described as “doing well by doing good”.

I once had an Anabaptist (Not Unitarian Universalist, but still radical Protestant) professor tell me that the Aztec society should have been preserved. he was unable to discuss the subject coherently, but his general statements were that, since everybody would eventually be saved by God, it is best to preserve them in the secular world as well.

I can see it now: UU is saved, gets to Heaven, and is mobbed and beaten half to death by people who didn’t have the UU’s prosperity while they were alive.
Just think, if only everybody had been given goodies enough to equalize things, the UU wouldn’t have been beaten!!
Strange idea, but the UUs & radical Protestants and more or less secular Yankees are acting as if they fear this scenario above all else. Heck, they might be severely beaten every day of eternity if they can’t prove a good faith effort to protect foreigners during their life here in the secular world! What could possibly be more important than avoiding that?

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I did both, went to College, and worked as an apprentice. College was interesting, even back in the 80s I found myself constantly arguing with liberal professors in the humanities classes I was forced to take. But in my apprenticeship. for which no college was required, I earned a living and learned about reality. 13% is too many going to college, I’d whittle it down to 5% and send the rest to apprenticeships.

Excellent point, Mig. (I already used up my ‘Agree’ button.)

Most kids go to college because they are very interested in the college social experience and because they perceive that their friends and family will look down upon them, if they did not go to college.

Whenever I contract plumbing, electrical, or any trade work, I rarely see young people doing the hard physical work. The Tradesmen always tell me that they offer young people high pay, but they say the young people will not do the work because it is demeaning. The Tradesmen also tell me that when they do hire someone young, they are not reliable nor hard working. Rightly or wrongly, I think our media or culture has indoctrinated people to look down upon trades work, factory work, farm work, and other low-skilled work. It’s a shame, because young people who never experience hard work end up too soft.

An old friend, now gone, was professor of a renowned department in one of the top London University colleges. The work they did was mathematical and applied to the management of finance. He told me that he was constantly asked why he had no black students in his graduate courses and his resolute but politically unacceptable reply was “I don’t look at their skin colour – I only look at what they show me they are capable of doing.” His department had devised its own very demanding aptitude test because he was so shocked at the low standard of the hundred or so applicants for a single place.

他对我的评论之一是，当今（例如 18 年）英国纯数学高级考试（学生年龄 2000）几乎与 16 世纪 1950 年代的普通一级考试（学生年龄 XNUMX）处于同一水平，他和我拿。

他们可能决定举办一个仅限人文学科的聚会，因为科学界人士正在进行的对话超出了他们的理解范围。他们在社交场合中感到更加自在，因为很多对话对他们来说不会是难以理解的。

I knew a guy who had a classics degree in Shakespearian literature and of that period. A very clear thinking guy, who had a roofing job to pay the bills. Always had a good looking girl on his arm. He was completely bald at 28, and wore it like he was proud.

I asked him how did everything fit in. He said he enjoyed the work, being outdoors, making something, but in his spare time, he wrote poetry and immersion in his love of the period-and all-literature. Only 1 of 50, optimistically, current students are smart enough to follow this path. Or too lazy or delusional.

Problem: they can’t think for themselves and come up with solutions from within.

This is compensation for the feelings of inferiority and deficit of cognition and character. Gloming together for succor and balmy salve to cover the psychological wounds of the lame members of the herd. As a sheep dog, I would turn a deaf ear to the wolves running down these sheeple.

The requirement of bachelor’s degree was no doubt to ensure that the prospective heavy lifter had a fair chance of being able to read packaging labels on the heavy objects being worked with since, alas, high school and community college diplomas confer no such guarantee. In the not too distant future Ph.D.’s will be the minimum requirement for tenured janitorial positions, to ensure that labels such as “toxic” and “for toilet bowls only” can be read and understood.

More, more! No more tax support or public and pubic funding.

… why should non-EU postgrads who are British higher education’s cash cow continue to pay their incredible stratospheric fees?

Lulz … the fees (EU Resident) for my UK law degree were a fraction of the fees for my US MBA (US Resident at the time). The academic standards in the UK (at least a decade ago) were considerably more demanding than those in the US a couple decades ago. The cultural rot in UK universities was preceded by that in US schools by a couple decades.

If UK students are looking to the US, it’s because they want to be in a more dynamic market or to go to a bigger party-school environment (given the nightly town-centre slut-walks one sees pictured in the tabloids, I would posit it is more likely the latter).

Hiring exams by companies still exist in some cases, in the form of personality tests. However, those companies would be much better off if they were allowed to test mathematical and reading ability, as this would weed out a large number of applicants. It would be better for applicants too, including those who don’t make it, since at least they wouldn’t have to pay 10s of thousands of dollars for the chance to do menial work.

Completely correct. It’s not exactly a bad deal for large companies if an undergraduate university education is the norm. What do they lose, after all? It’s not as if they are supporting their applicants’ education, as they would have to do with a high school graduate who would rightly expect to receive on-the-job training and perhaps a costly certification. Besides, university education saddles prospective candidates with debt, meaning that they are more likely to accept whatever position they find, even if it is very poorly paid.

对于更加进化和聪明的学生来说，安全空间的概念一定是一个尴尬。

我偶尔会在科罗拉多大学博尔德分校的校园里度过一段时光。几乎到处都有“安全空间”的标志，这很有趣。

但并不有趣的是我们的国家如何被社会腐朽所吞噬，我们的教育机构如何被文化马克思主义所淹没。

作为一个美国人，这是悲伤的一天。

Correction to link:

Who needs Oxbridge? Meet the British students headed for Europe, By Rosie Ifould, Guardian, October 3, 2015

I think the STEM-focussed universities will not go pop, nor should they. STEM-focus, BTW, I arbitrarily define as 70-80% STEM and 20-30% social “sciences” and liberal arts/humanities. What most definitely needs to go pop are courses in various kind of “studies”, such as gender studies. I wouldn’t go to a dentist who trained mainly on the internet (fount of wisdom and knowledge though it is claimed to be), nor would I hire an engineer with such training. But I would have no objection to being driven by a taxi driver who majored in literature or anthropology. I have had pizzas delivered by majors in economics, with no adverse consequences to the quality of the pizza, though I was left wondering why anyone would spend thousand of borrowed dollars to end up delivering pizzas or driving taxis.

only the Humanities provide EDUCATION, properly so called (as Plato and Aquinas would have agreed); the rest provide TRAINING, a kind of high-IQ barber college.

Do the forensic experiment: get two roughly equal in decent IQ metric (BS, of course, but at least some criterion) students and teach them the course in history, or comparative politics to one student, and Dynamics or Differential Equations to the other. After that remove professors teaching them and offer students to autonomously study each-others discipline. See the result. As per “humanities” in general–in the West it is long ago stopped being education and turned into indoctrination. I know a number of engineers, fundamental scientists and industrial managers who are extremely well read and would have no problems in obtaining graduate or post-graduate degree in “humanities”. I never encounter a single humanities “educated” graduate or post-graduate who knows how to write manufacturing plan for trailing edge of the wing for aircraft or have a faintest idea on testing procedures (including metrology part) for complex structures. It is, I think, not accidental that late Bea Arthur in The History Of The World, Part 1, calls Mel Brook’s character (a Stand-Up Philosopher) a Bullshitter. In conclusion: the real schooling in logic, good level reasoning, ability to generalize and systematize comes not from reading Plato or Tomas Aquinas, but from rigorous training in mathematical logic , both through Algebra and Geometry with Trigonometry, and Physics at the early school age.

人文学科提供教育，正确地称为（正如柏拉图和阿奎那会同意的那样）； 其余提供培训，一种高智商的理发学院。

That is the usual belief in the humanities, true enough. The “humanities” used to becalled “the liberal arts”, and taught the reading and writing and rhetoric (“3 Rs”) needed to participate in government and interact with the upper (ruling) classes. This was thought to make one free, and also had something to do with books, hence “liberal” arts. [1].

You might find it interesting to see Adler’s comments on the subject of scientific knowledge [2]. Additionally, if you want to know what mathematics is about at root, you might get a copy of Adler’s “The New Mathematiccs_, a 1960s work that tried to teach real basic mathematics on an elementary school level. Didn’t work, but the book is good.

The basic problem with the humanities is that the universe doesn’t really work the same way that human language (any language) does. Nor do human games, nor human activities, nor those of animals. If you want to have prediction level of knowledge about humans and their interactions with the real world, you need to have mathematics — something different from human language. Took me years to figure that out, took millennia from first rule of thumb surveying rules to Galileo’s description of falling bodies using algebra.

So I’m essentially left with something told me by another student at an engineering school: Humanities is about sounding good (e.g. participation in government). Science and engineering are about telling the truth. If you want to see what that really means, follow the references.

平叛

1] 中古英语，源自盎格鲁-法语，源自拉丁语 自由主义 适合自由人，大方，从 解放者 自由; 也许类似于古英语 莱奥丹 成长, 希腊语 刺五加 免费
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberal
LIBER also means “scroll or codex” in Latin, hence the word Library. Suggests some link between literacy/knowledge and ability to participate in society.

另见：
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber

One thing that will make university bubble burst here in the states is that H1 visas holders are increasingly staffing the STEM jobs. Why go into debt for a job you won’t ever get?

And then the fact that native students don’t get STEM degrees will be used as evidence that we “need” immigrants, when in fact our youth would get STEM degrees but for the immigrants!

In any event, these universities will not fail if they are allowed to import foreign students from the growing global middle class, and that is what they will do if they are allowed any influence over immigration policy.

My alma mater in London kept on sending me begging letters. I was in Australia. Eventually, I phoned them up and told them that they were wasting their time on me. A Hong Kong class mate of mine was a billionaire many times over. He was chairman of the second most valuable property company in the world. They didn’t know. They emailed me to say the the dean will be contacting him in person. 🙂

Much earlier, I was IT manager of the number one business school in Europe according to the Financial Times “European Business School Rankings 2018” (full time MBA).

Their most critical application was for handling students who had left and sending out begging letters. They got a large source of their funding that way. Their database system in shambles. I sorted it out.

When all started running smoothly, the professors wanted to take back control of the department so I left. I had at least 5 meetings with professors during my time there where they recommended different programming languages or systems that we should use. None of them had ever written a line of code.

Since math is now being declared racist and gender studies grads are having getting jobs, maybe we should take Groucho Marx’s advice and close the college classrooms to save money to play football?

From the excellent Marx Brothers movie, “Horse Feathers.”

他的手臂上总是抱着一个漂亮的女孩。

她在智力和心理社会整合方面与他平等吗？
If so, where did he find all these “good looking girls” that were also well integrated?

While there are numerous causes for the explosion of useless and even harmful college level institutional growth and expansion, one major factor is that they are largely created by socialist style planning from above.

It has been politically popular (and easy) for state legislatures and the federal educational subsidy bureaucracy to increase funding for both the institutions (often labeled “research” grants) and the students themselves. The students are given easy money loans on the thinnest of pretexts with only some willing institution (to take their money) as a barrier to getting the money.

So, work, military or “college student” for you after high school? Why not party hearty for a few years and maybe even end up with a very expensive and useless degree in some soft subject? Who wants to be a teacher or gym coach? Of course those loans now have to be repaid and special rules exist for collecting these come hell or high water. No tax refunds for you, ever! No bankruptcy either. But you can do semi slave labor for some government do-good agency (Peace Corp, Indian reservation teacher, etc.) and some of that will disappear. Otherwise, those bloated “universities” get your loan money (and taxpayer funding, unlimited) and you get the debt.

Colleges have “no skin in the game” so admit anyone. Affirmative action ensures that even the dumbest non white applicant can get in. So it’s free money for them, not the student. And today’s Dems want to expand that option to illegal aliens and anyone who can breathe.

Karl Marx & Co. would be proud. Lemonade and gum drops for the masses…

在第二段中那个荒谬的比较之后，你失去了我。真的吗？我想知道继 Brimelow、Sailor、Derbyshire 等人之后谁会拿起替换钢笔。清空他们的墨水井。带着那把迟钝的剑和缺乏朴素的修整，我们将等待。

I think the STEM-focussed universities will not go pop, nor should they.

They will not, agree, but due to steady decline of the STEM education in the West in schools, requirements for STEM universities may get lower even more.

What most definitely needs to go pop are courses in various kind of “studies”, such as gender studies.

Same with journalism (a glorified degree in language), the way history is taught in the US is altogether the case of myopia, same goes for a host of other so called “studies” and subjects such as political pseudo-science. The world became so complex that “philosophers” simply have no required cognitive faculties and instrumentation allowing them to be correct even once in a long while. Take a look at US field of “geopolitics” which, through its academe, produced in the last 30 years and incredible body of 8utter BS, which does not pass even most lax academic smell test. No wonder the country (the US) is in such a shape. I am not talking about EU here–that is a complete basket case.

答对了。

What really caused all this?

Griggs v. Duke Power, 401 U.S. 424 (1970) had a great deal to do with employers abandoning internal testing as a basis for hiring or promotion.

“人文学科”曾被称为“文科”

正确的。 但我认为你在脚注中留下了最重要的部分。 “来自拉丁语 自由主义 适合自由人”

文科是自由人需要适当地集中自己以便成为公民社会的充分参与者的那些。 IOW，一个统治者。 不是一个暴君，而是一个知道如何说服其他自由人跟随他的人，最重要的是，一个对生活中有价值的东西有足够的了解来引导他们走向正确方向的人。

这不是目前的文科。 事实上，今天的“文科” 否认实际值确实存在或可以存在. 存在的只是群体之间的权力关系以及由此产生的压迫，因为交流本身就是一种权力和排斥的行使。 一个人不需要说服别人，只需要强迫他们。 事实上，说服是不可能的。 而这样的价值观也是一种幻觉。

这些立场完全自相矛盾是无关紧要的。 他们相信他们，并且兴高采烈地使用他们的力量来摧毁那些挑战他们的人。

因此，今天的“文科”在非常真实的意义上与古典、中世纪和近代早期的情况相反。

the UK Advanced Level examination (student age 18) in pure mathematics of today (say 2000) was almost on a level with the Ordinary Level one (student age 16) of the 1950s

This is quite true. A UK student of today would not be able to understand the questions in an A’level pure math paper of 1968 – let alone answer them.

One additional twist to the disaster that is the educational system of the UK is that there are different examination boards.

Examination boards in the United Kingdom

In order to attract schools to use their own papers, these boards started competing by making their papers easier. Schools were attracted to boards that set the easiest papers.

In my opinion, the educational system of the UK is totally screwed up. The elite universities are attractive to students because of the networking opportunities. Their “Foreign Office” will only ever employ kids from certain institutions. Everyone knows which colleges are harvested by MI6 and so on.

In Britain, for example, as Oxford and Cambridge become increasingly woke and socially engineered [Oxford University agrees to let in disadvantaged students with lower grades, By Gabriela Swerling, Telegraph, May 21, 2019], British pupils from elite backgrounds are increasingly going to colleges abroad, especially in the U.S.A. Between 2013 and 2017, British applications to U.S. colleges increased by 31%. In 2016, half of students at two leading “public schools” (prestigious private schools in British English) applied to an American university and almost half of these applicants ended up going to one [Why British students are heading to America for an elite education, By Helen Kirwan-Taylor, Telegraph, September 27, 2017].

This doesn’t make any sense because Oxford and Cambridge are still far less woke than American universities (although rapidly catching up, as recent diversity efforts have shown).

The main question is, did people bang after the party?

与此同时，大学的建设也掀起了疯狂的热潮。所有的钱从哪里来？

These are the times of easy money. I see building booms everywhere.

At the next recession, there will be serious de-booming while sub-intellectual fa**ots will proclaim in the NYT and from Central Bank ass-warming thrones that even MORE money needs to be printed and/or interest rates need to be even more below zero to keep the cocaine party going.

They will be burnt out of there like nests of yellowjackets.

The author fails to grasp the tremendous anxiety parents have about their offsprings’ chances in the economic game of life. Those parents/alumni will continue to pay the exorbitant price for a crap service because, “My darling will end in poverty hell without a sheepskin!”

Yeah. I keep trying to explain it to the bozos on here, but they are too un-educated (maybe I should say uncultivated, un-refined) to understand.

College is not trade school. It is meant to civilize you at the very least to the extent that civilized people can stand to live around you.

The article just says the “bubble” is bursting (it probably is, and should), not that college/university degrees will be generally less sought after, have less cachet, or lower value in the job market.

My experience has been that starting in the late 1980s or so, there was a noticeable downward trend in the ability of graduates to speak professionally, write well (including vocabulary), and think analytically, the latter being true even among the technically educated — an open question is whether secondary (high school) education in the US will react and begin some kind of reasonable vocational training instead of pushing college on everyone, and in the end leaving pretty much every student, including those who take the college prep track, largely unprepared for anything resembling real life — my guess is no.

The fact that interviews became less of ‘what you know’ and more ‘what school you went to’ corrupted the merit factor in hiring.

I remember reading a newspaper article (so you know it was at least a couple of decades ago) about some pompous tech blowhard who said he let the universities do candidate screening for him, ie he only considered people who’d graduated from the “best” schools.

If only there was some kind of warning:

Standardized College Entrance Tests (ACT, SAT) scores starting in the late 1970’s became an objective measure of a student’s capability.

That seems like an odd thing to say given that the SAT has been around since 1926.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT

But I think you are on target with the rest of your comment.

That’s a good question. Some of them were, uh, short expiration if you know wadda mean. Just another pretty face, etc. Others were from his intellectual level, from the University of Texas at Austin, literature groups, friends and networks. He was a very bright boy, born and raised on a farm. Women found him hard to resist: was good enough looking with well defined facial features, outgoing, friendly, confident, and content to be who he was. He was easy on the outside-very approachable-but complex on the inside. And of course, he was “good with his hands”.

He was say, like a perfect martini, just the right mixture of the ingredients, in harmony and balance.

鼻子使得我们必须上大学，这样他们才能向我们的孩子灌输思想。

他们抬高了大学费用，这样他们就可以靠我们的孩子赚钱。

You have to understand…..there really is a force behind the scenes…..a money power that gets nearly everything it wants, by hook or by crook.

Griggs v. Duke Power, 401 U.S. 424 (1970) had a great deal to do with employers abandoning internal testing as a basis for hiring or promotion.

Thank you. So this is why some companies overhire, force the tranches of hires into competitive situations, and cut loose the losers at the end of the year.

In an expansion of that scenario …

I was a hiring manager for years. Identifying the losers was relatively easy. Look for someone who appears to jump jobs every two years. That generally meant that the company took a year to realize who they had to let go … and spent the second year contriving a scheme that would pass legal muster to get rid of them.

Companies had to be careful. One could not fire a protected minority or female for anything assumed to be personal … such as performance. If you did, expect a lawsuit.

Better: Do away with the position as the rationale for letting someone go … and then hire someone back into the position under a new job description that, generally, covered the same work.

What a waste of my time … and another part of the contorted illusions and delusions that pass as Western civilization.

我的耶稣会高中、普林斯顿大学、牛津大学和哈佛大学向我提供的希腊和罗马经典教育无疑使我能够思考。

同意。
Unfortunately few now enable ‘thinking’.
They seem to enable non thinking personal opinionating 代替。

至少有人了解我们这个时代的黑暗现实。

Ah, but if that was the case, surely the ad would have stated that a Master’s was required. This is the 21st century, after all.

Where’s all the money coming from?

El Data replied already, but let me put it this way:

Taxpayers that haven’t even been born yet.

The. building boom is done with tuition money, which is 5-10X higher per student than 30 years ago. Additionally, many colleges have increased their enrollments 50% or more since then. Colleges can afford to charge whatever they desire, as they will make it clear to prospective freshman, or the parents thereof, that “we will make sure you can get the money”. They’d be glad to help you apply for the big loans, or you can do it yourself. The main thing is, loan amounts can go up to cover tuition.

The reason loan amounts can keep going up, is that it’s not the loan officer of 1985 going “hmmm, you want enough for tuition and board for 4 years of Art History? Nah, it’s took big a risk, son. I’d get fired for this. We could probably loan you $500 a year…” Nope, when Uncle Sugar has your ass, you don’t need to worry about it none.

As these loans start defaulting more, and right now something like 15% of the $1,600,000,000,000 is in default, it may not be you the taxpayer who’s on the hook, because Uncle Sugar will just get the FED to back them in creating more Treasury bonds (please don’t get picky with me on this – it’s more complicated than just that). That brings the $23,000,000,000,000 national debt up even higher for the as-yet-unborn future taxpayers.

Well, it’ll all crash before too long.

有一个很好的一天！

“My darling will end in poverty hell without a sheepskin!”

That’s a true characterization of the average parents’ anxiety. They don’t realize that with a sheepskin, their offspring will end up in debt slavery, another level of hell.

Just when one is convinced that the value of a college education is going into the tank, a handful of brilliant and well spoken young students come along and restore one’s faith in the system:

Fantastic article I agree and it will only get worse. The University of North Carolina had thousands of students (guess what color) received grades for fake courses in African Studies and similar credits without even attending class. It was a massive academic fraud that went on for years and the university attacked the whistle blowers. It was completely played down by the Jewish Controlled media. North Carolina should have lost their accreditation but nothing happened.

Accreditation should be abolished because it means absolutely nothing. It raises the prices of education and gives jobs to a bunch SJW who believe everyone should get a degree. The Blank Slate Theory of Locke is endangering society because it has now invaded the sciences which were once the dominion of the highest caliber students.

The idea that everyone is “college material” and that everyone can do science will collapse many of the institutions of society. This is what Obama and his Marxists friends call “Equalization.” Obama believes it’s just a matter of numbers and all we have to do is give degrees and put the people in society with these fake degrees in their Utopian World. We as a society are on the verge of complete insanity and as a nation are suicidal in trying to prove that everyone is the same intellectually.

Don’t seem to be going bust here in Canada…

The unis are just bringing in hundreds of thousands of “international students” per year… with a path to PR and eventual citizenship, of course.

Why hook a white kid with 30k debt when you can hook some Indian with 65k debt AND have him work for peanuts afterwards.

哇！

多棒的一篇文章啊！ 我同意一切，所以我们在家上学。

八九岁的时候，我的孩子们会操作推土机、13速手动自卸车、汽车和卡车、电动工具和设备等。他们是迷你大人了。

另外九岁的孩子正在做微积分。 这位八岁的孩子正在建筑承包领域做学徒。

在“公立学校”中，男孩想做的几乎所有事情都被禁止。

所以操他们。 不仅仅是大学。 所有的。 K-12也是。

哈利路亚！

Nobody much cared about SAT until the 1970’s.

American colleges today function as slave markets, trapping “students” into lifetime debt peonage to the financial elite. “Professors” are bait. Administrators are slave mongers — that’s why they’re highest paid. Most (75%+) “teaching” is now “performed” by graduate student instructors and “adjunct” professors for McDonalds wages. Circus clowns are better paid, more entertaining, and have more intellectual integrity.

But the “wokeness” of American colleges is strictly fake. They pose as “left” (or “right”) on decoy issues — mostly “identity politics” — but rigorously repress discussion of causes — notably the financial operations of the Wall Street elite kleptocracy. Department by department, they are “captive” agencies of the powers that be. Economics departments are mouthpieces for usury finance. Science departments are enserfed to corporate and military “research” projects. Political science and humanities provide foot-soldiers for deep state agencies. Medical schools team with the AMA and corporate medicine to enforce America’s horrific deadly “health care system” (with the highest prices on the planet producing third world public health rates — Cuba has better infant mortality, e.g.). The law schools provide foot soldiers for Just Ice, Inc. History departments maintain an iron censorship in favor of the Official Version — you will look long and hard and never find honest fact based documentary discussion of, even, the First World War, let alone the Second, or JFK, let alone 9/11. And so on.

In private and public colleges alike, on the Boards of Regents the plutocracy rules. In the Departments group think and official ideas are rigorously enforced. The all purpose PhD exam question is “tell me what I want to hear.” Dissenters who probe beneath the surface of permissible discussion are promptly excreted. Junior faculty are incessantly harassed into neurotic speechlessness — “careful what you say” is the prevailing law. The idea that it is a question of “left” or “right” just buys into the hoax. Official ideas define the limits of both the fake “left” and the fake “right” (and the author of this article buys in). There is nothing at all new about this situation in American colleges. Thorstein Veblen discusses it at length in The Higher Learning In America (1918). Veblen did not last long anywhere he taught.

The dumbing down of the level of instruction and the dilution of ‘requirements’ for the various degrees has obvious economic motives — the more debt slaves the merrier.

The dissolution of the monasteries was a power grab and a land grab. The monasteries — their buildings, lands, tenants — passed into the hands of Henry VIII, his henchmen, and his backers among the aristocracy and gentry. It was looting on a vast, national scale. The “theological” issues were largely a cover story for a political and kleptocratic maneuver. Henry began the establishment of the English Church as independent of the Church of Rome to free England from the financial demands and corrupting administrative control of a foreign power. Sir Thomas More (who burnt heretics himself) was executed for “praemunire” — a form of treason which consists in furnishing support (munire) to another power “first” (prae) — i.e. sooner than — to his Sovereign Lordship the King. If America had such a statute numerous plutocrats would need to emigrate with all due speed.

到 1920 年，华尔街财神崇拜取代了美国佬统治。这篇评论中的文化历史已经过时一个世纪了。

州立法者可以通过拒绝对胡言乱语的课程和部门征税来启动这一进程。私立学校可能会也可能不会效仿——所以让他们见鬼去吧。

The so-called “left” is an authoritarian thug with the Happy Face mask with which the so-called “right” dispenses. Both terms are pure fog.

No mention of the fact that one primary reason was the de facto outlawing of IQ tests in hiring decisions by employers.

University admission usefully served as a rough IQ proxy.

A simple 45 minute test would have saved trillions of dollars and prevented the ruin of millions of lives.

英国教育仍然是世界上大多数国家的黄金标准，我不知道这种情况会持续多久。

你的意思是势利的吸引力。这就是牛津、剑桥和常春藤盟校的营销宣传。

至于要持续多久，你只需要看看他们任命谁来领导这样的地方 牛津。这些人被带到清洁厕所、扫街并压低工资，而不是经营培养像牛顿这样的人的学习机构。

对于技术领域来说，德国绝对是物有所值的。

Back in 1985 Edward Damerell wrote Education’s Smoking Gun: How Teachers’ Colleges Have Destroyed Education in America, a hilarious account of UMass’ ed programs granting functionally illiterate black women masters and doctorates in education based, literally, on being able to set up audio-visual equipment in a classroom. The problem was compounded because, as these women could not possibly teach, female and racial affirmative action combined to place them all over the Northeast as principals and administrators. We’ve all encountered this insanity visiting almost any government office in America. Damerell also tells the story of how Bill Cosby got his doctorate, which was showing videos of the Fat Albert cartoons to staff at lavish dinner parties.

Before his death in 2004, Richard Mitchell, the Underground Grammarian, published a free newsletter by that name, which was a hilarious expose of the clown shows passing for teachers’ colleges in America and the insane programs inflicted on children who I’d guess qualify as GenX. The newsletter and his several books are free on the Internet and worth a look. They’re may seem a bit staid these days, however, due to the debasement of critical thinking and being overwhelmed by the edgy crassness typifying the Ignatius J. Reillys who make up most of today’s keyboard commandos.

Another one accepted to seven different ivies (top pic):

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/08/a-reservation-restored/535656/

I wonder if any of the admissions officials realize what a fucking joke everyone thinks they are.

虽然你说的有很多道理，但我的观点是，无论左右的分歧在实践中多么模糊，只有一种意识形态在我们的西方校园中作为国教被教导和宣扬。

“I phoned them up and told them that they were wasting their time on me. A Hong Kong class mate of mine was a billionaire many times over. He was chairman of the second most valuable property company in the world. They didn’t know. They emailed me to say the the dean will be contacting him in person. ”

Assholes like you are the reason for the right to bear arms.

1470 to 1600’s the majority of the printing presses in Europe were in catholic monasteries not secular print shops. Map printing was a monopoly of the a monastery scriptorium in the Duchy of Lorraine France That’s where the first maps of America were printed. That monastery had non monk non catholic map makers and specialists from all over Europe working there.

Monasteries were publishers. They welcomed the printing press. Unlike the Protestant print ships, they printed a variety of books, not just endless copies of the blood thirsty fairy tales of the Jewish Bible.

And btw, the English universities were catholic monastery libraries and schools 800 years before Henry 8.

Another author totally ignorant of the subject skims through Wikipedia and makes a fool of himself with his ignorance. He could have written the article without the Protestant church grade school history inserted.

Author doesn’t know much about the American university system and degree requirements at all. So he mixes information about 2 different countries and produces thus mish mash.

The most ignorant thing he wrote was that English universities are so expensive English students are going to America. English universities are more expensive now than decades ago when they were free.

But the cost of an English university is much much cheaper than ours. Like 5k a year vs 35k a year.

American employees still require the degree for many jobs. Starbucks store managers work 60 70 a week for a few dollars more than minimum wage for 40 hours. A lot of these lower management jobs are designed to get around the paid overtime laws. Clerks work 40 hours a week and are paid for 4o hours. Managers work 60,70 hours a week but are paid for 40 hours.

The author’s attempt to discuss the American degree and hiring system with the English is a failure because of his ignorance of the American system

Apprenticeship? The few private sector unions in America with well paid jobs and an apprenticeship program are under the gun of the affirmative action gestapo. Goes back to republican Richard Nixon’s Philadelphia Plan designed to destroy the White man. May he burn in hell forever and ever.

An English relative by marriage did very well with an apprenticeship. Finished high school at 16. Apprenticed himself to a cabinet maker. Now he has his own shop. He designs and makes very expensive bespoke furniture for designers, not retail.

But that’s England, not America. Do we even make furniture in America anymore? If Herndon and Baker are still around have they replaced all the Americans with illegal Central Americans making $3 an hour.

To me this suggests that your recent contact with “Western campuses” is superficial, mostly mediated, and ideologically partial.

ADVICE TO AMERICANS THINKING OF MED SCHOOL WHO FEAR COST AND LOSS OF INCOME FOR 13 YEARS.

Medical school in Britain including Ireland is only 5 years. No 4 year undergrad degree required. Internship included in the one 5 year medical school.

So after passing the licensing exam, a young Dr can start adult life working and earning as 22 or 23 instead of early 30s. Have your babies at 25 26 instead of 40.

Reasonable costs not half a million including living expenses. Pay back you student loans at 30 instead of 60.
It’s definitely worth applying. Britain has many med s hooks. Maybe one will take you. The U.K. schools England Scotland N Ireland are extremely anti White. They tend to recruit in the commonwealth especially Africa

But Ireland doesn’t have affirmative action yet. High school diploma and pass the admission exam.

Canada same as us. 8 years school not quite as expensive as US but pricey.

去吧

Just build the fighter jets and weapons of war, Martyanov, and leave it to the philosopher-kings to decide when, how, and against whom they shall be used.

Name some outstanding political leader with a science and math background? Mike Pompeo (Mech Eng)? Angela Merkel (Ph.D., Quantum Chemistry)?

http://cdn3.chartsbin.com/chartimages/l_38380_f00312c62dd7f8593bab17be1b8decf3

You obviously flunked out. (or should have)

Name some outstanding political leader with a science and math background? Mike Pompeo (Mech Eng)? Angela Merkel (Ph.D., Quantum Chemistry)?

It is not in my rules to respond to anonymous entities, but if you call Mr. Pompeo or Merkel “leaders”, you, obviously, have very little understanding of what leadership is and how it develops. This, of course, not to mention a peculiar fact that Mr. Clinton, Obama, most in US media and government class have zero natural-precise science training and most came from law and other “humanities” pseudo-sciences.

and leave it to the philosopher-kings

Looks like you read my last book. Marcus Aurelius, certainly, comes to mind. Per Western lawyers or “philosophers” and most political “scientists”–I wouldn’t trust them with mowing my lawn, let alone make decisions on the use of modern weapons. You also, evidently, lack a grasp of the fact that Ph.D in political science or in philosophy would have about the same understanding of modern warfare and its consequences as a pony in the traveling circus.

需要澄清的是，我同意你提到的变化可能会毁掉这些机构，但我也同意评论者吉姆·琼斯的观点，即在其中获得的教育仍然是世界大部分地区的标准。

正在发生的事情是令人愤慨的。

Wall Street Mammon worship superseded Yankeedom [1] by 1920. The cultural history in this comment is a century out of date.

Arguable, maybe. I’ve had a fair amount of experience with universities up to about 2010. The Jewish influence was very strong, but not universal.

a) The basic problem of the Jewish establishment is lack of headcount. Assume for the sake of this demonstration only that the average IQ of the Ashkenazim is 115, standard deviation 15 points. That gives the Ashkenazim about 5.3 times as many people with an IQ over 125, suitable for university service. However, Ashkenazim population in the US is about 12 million, of which about 3 million would qualify for university work. White population, 233 million, about 11 million would qualify for university work. The Jewish population with IQ over 125 is thus outnumbered by a non-Jewish factor of maybe 3 to 4. That is not enough to maintain a position of dominance against serious opposition.
Opposition has been weak since at least the end of WW II, but the current anti White / open borders appears to be strengthening the opposition. If it strengthens enough, it wins.

b) Mammon won in NYC (in the Empire State) a long time before the AD 1920s. NYC was commercially dominant over New England once it opened the Erie Canal, AD 1825, and NYC was an intensely commercial city from the day of its foundation as a trading post by the Dutch around AD 1630. At present, Yankeedom is in alliance with New Netherlands, searching for a millenarian equality of homo sapiens, and Yankeedom supplies the administrators and subordinates for the universities and for the corporations. Granted that they are being displaced, they are not being displaced by competent people. They are usually the only people there who can keep the place running. Should the Yankeedom/NYC (and the urban coalition it effectively leads) alliance break up, as it seems to be doing, NYC could not keep the universities running and could not keep the corporations functioning. That would be enough to expel NYC from its position of dominance/leadership. The current dysfunction in both universities and corporations suggests that the breakup is already underway.

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1] http://www.colinwoodard.com/files/ColinWoodard_AmericanNations_map.pdf

Nah, the whole bunch of us sounded as dumb as rocks when talking to each other. That wasn’t it. And the humanities types acted friendly as anything.

At the end the Humanities types monopolized the final presentation, which they gave as “Space travel isn’t good for people, but it might be possible to avoid some of the harm” and mentioned no benefits whatsoever. Standard Left talk.

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There was only one woman, so it would have been a bit Hells Angels-ish, or maybe just very gay. I couldn’t say, though, I wasn’t there.

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奥尔登：

I’m surprised that Ireland does not yet have affirmative action academic admissions. I emphasize “yet” since Ireland is vying mightily to be the #1 SJW nation.

“(My alma mater with the insane endowment still calls me asking for money–They must think their graduates are _really_ stupid!)”

They’re literally counting on it.

Lol, I did read/listen to your book. Bought a Kindle 和 Audible version. And I agree with your position on education. I was just having fun with your first comment.

Relative sent his begging letters back with a note scribbled in red marking pen

“ get me a job and I’ll send you money”

My mother gave tens of thousands to Cornell which doesn’t need her money. She wasn’t even thinking donating might get her children in. It just made her feel good. Cornell needs me. Yeah right.

存在的只是群体之间的权力关系以及由此产生的压迫，因为交流本身就是一种权力和排斥的行使。

And they are correct during intervals of complete social breakdown. I think they believe that their belief in power relationships as the only relationships existing means that they can _threaten_ to break down society (“make the wheels run backwards”) but not actually do it. It is something like the game of chicken, and they think their opponents (too squeamish to actually fight) will always flinch first.

Unfortunately, while playing the game (and winning) they’ve damaged society enough that it’s apt to break down on its own, in which case nobody is going to stop.

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Can you provide copies of the old tests?

它们是否被粘贴在某个地方？

No, the Liberal Arts provide education. Plato and Aquinas would have agreed with that. Humanism is a swamp creature from the “Renaissance.”

迷人。

https://www.gs.unsw.edu.au/policy/documents/equitystatement.pdf

这些大学还公然表现出政治歧视，但实际上却声称相反。

So at the University of New South Wales you have this:

“3.1.大学需要所有教职员工和学生的持续合作，以提高我们的公平、多样性和包容性原则的意识，并将其融入到他们的日常行为、语言和决策中。”

So in effect, thought-policing. Avoid thought-crime for admission and advancement. Any deviation equates to non-admission and non-advancement.

Which in practice means this:

“Embracing the diversity and cultural richness of our communities and ensuring that our staff and students can achieve their full potential regardless of background, as is outlined in the UNSW 2025 Strategy. For example, this may entail action to reverse the impact of disadvantage stemming from a person or group’s differences (such as those based on a person or group’s social standing, economic status, demographic characteristics, or geographic location).”

Which means you can have entire faculties consisting only of homosexual disabled immigrant Jews and Indians and Chinese and this is still ‘diverse’ because of these individuals’ relation to their group representations. And this is actually the case. Entire faculties at places like Maquarie University, or the University of Sydney are literally non-white – but this is regarded as diverse on that perverse logic.

It’s just diabolical.

然而，这在某种程度上是为了与此相协调：

“当一个人或一群人由于受保护的属性而受到不如另一个人或群体的待遇（直接或间接）时，就会发生歧视。 ”

And the attributes include political opinion, religious affiliation and social origin – yet conservative, Christian, white people may be excluded both via

1. affirmative action, and
2.要求他们推动大学的多元化计划。

https://www.2025.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/uploads/unsw_2025strategy_201015.pdf

Then you look at ‘A Just Society’ Theme B1 of the plan.

你会看到这个：“3.确保员工招聘、发展、保留和晋升方面的平等，特别注意确保不因性别、文化背景、残疾或土著出身而处于不利地位。新南威尔士大学将成为澳大利亚大学的典范，也是来自不同背景的人们的首选雇主。”

“Given the limitations of relying solely on high school grades, entry criteria and processes will be a focus of review and reform. Bonus point schemes will be used when there is evidence to demonstrate additional value over the use of crude measures of academic performance alone in reducing the effects of disadvantage on admission decisions. UNSW’s Scholarship Program will include more ‘equity-based’ scholarships to support students from disadvantaged and under-represented groups and the number of scholarships for Indigenous and low socioeconomic status students will be increased.”

And more variations on that theme. Total overt discrimination against students and staff of anything western, and anything merit-based.

All in all, absolute overt gate-keeping and discrimination against anything remotely western, white, Christian, and majoritarian. And perhaps now Asian. But that is a separate argument.

Always the double-think of anti-discrimination and forms of affirmative action based on minority statuses across every possible dimension of identity.

I know all of this is trite and well-canvassed compared to the economic structures you’re discussing which are remarkable – but I’m sure it’s like this in all the US universities and colleges.

So you can see that it is impossible for staff in a modern university to advance – literally impossible, if they don’t espouse and positively facilitate the most egregious progressivism, in Australia.

And Liberals preen about why conservatives aren’t represented in the Universities. It’s because they aren’t permitted. They are ruthlessly culled and filtered.

所以我希望保守派在未来也能采取同样的做法。使用相同的政策，并简单地调整它们，以无情地清除任何左派身份。保守派必须了解他们正在处理什么。这些政策是第四代战争的行为，需要受到严厉的实物报复。

The universities need to burn. They need to burn.

Ron this is something I’m considering doing. And I know it’s presumptive and possibly rude to request a man doing so much to consider something additional.

But have you ever considered compiling old curricula, texts and tests that could be used by people to home-school their kids in parallel with the official converged and subverted marxist curricula?

Is there anything like that in your archives of the periodicals?

Leave Plato out of this! First of all he’s right: we do live in a world of (objects that approximate to ) fixed forms, which is why we can utilize general terms like ‘rock’, ‘cheese’, ‘square’, ‘mountain’, ‘music’, etc. Aristotle ‘essentially’ agreed. Second of all, ‘the left” opposes what they think of as “essentialism.” One fire-breathing feminist says there is no idea more important to her project than “opposing essentialism.” By which she likely means the notion that there are men and women, whites and blacks, old and young, etc.

Wall Street took control of American government incrementally from the Civil War forward. By 1898 it was in a position to drive the country into war and by 1916 toward the pursuit of world empire, achieved in the later 40s.

Yes, there’s that too. Big money and slavery always go together.

This is an O level GCE mathematics paper from 1957 – intended for 16 year olds.

https://www.tes.com/teaching-resource/old-1957-o-level-maths-papers-11194130

An IQ of 125 is too low to enter the ranks of PhDs, who are generally over 140, depending on the subject. Influential professors are presumably drawn from the top fraction of PhDs. Unfortunately I can’t do the math — Mr. Unz or Derbyshire or Steve Sailer might — but the over 150, over 160, and still higher cohorts are probably dominated by Ashkenazis, despite their tiny headcount overall.
Asians, if we look at the international situation, are more likely to give the Ashkenazim competition in math and the sciences.

When I was attending college, I was amazed that few people who were paying their schooling with government grants, were allowed to get going with almost zero passing grades! When you say ‘minorities’, you must be kidding! They were as white as any body else, and dumb. I saw some refugees from Vietnam and other Southwest Asian areas, getting good grades, while these white females, (yes they were women), so dumb and who did not care at all. So If you do think that ‘minorities’ are dumb, it was not my experience when attending higher ed. In Utah.

伯尼·桑德斯妻子的财务管理不善最终导致佛蒙特州一所小型大学破产并关闭。
想想如果当选总统他们可以为国家做些什么。

How does philanthropy play into the building boom?

Intuition tells me it’s a scam, and one whose endgame is a debt-burden for the donee institution: the donor puts up initial money, gets a name on a building and occupies and prominent piece of real estate, but the university is obligated for 80% or 65%, for the next 30 years.
Which means taxpayers pay twice for that “gift” — the 慈善家 gets to write off taxes, while the tax base is saddled with 30+ years bonds.
Campuses become a collection of monuments to tax-dodging combined with hubris.

That may already be included in their long-term forecasting and planning. Suddenly their building boom makes sense.

They already have huge influence over immigration policy, so they can play a part in guaranteeing that the immigration Ponzi scheme continues and they have an endless supply of suckers to fill those beautiful buildings and pay the cost.

The college scam could conceivably go on for a long time, without the bubble bursting, as they simply forget to care about the Citizens of the very country where their campuses are located.

Globalism works in their favor, as it does for most other big businesses.

二战后的大学以犹太社会科学、历史和人类学为主。
Post Modernism is Jewish. The question is why did your WASP’s give it up to the Jews

“I think our media or culture has indoctrinated people to look down upon trades work, factory work, farm work, and other low-skilled work. It’s a shame, because young people who never experience hard work end up too soft.”

And what ethnic group has always looked with disdain on hands on physical productivity? What ethnic group owns and runs the media, the entertainment industry and non scientific higher education?

” The Jewish population with IQ over 125 is thus outnumbered by a non-Jewish factor of maybe 3 to 4. That is not enough to maintain a position of dominance against serious opposition.
Opposition has been weak since at least the end of WW II,”

Opposition hasn’t been weak. It has been virtually nonexistent. Jews dominate, not through absolute or even relative numbers, but through ideology which is rooted in the guilt chain hung around white necks after WW2 because of the supposed Holocaust and pre war “racist” theorizing. Cultural Marxism dominates the humanities and social sciences and it is Jewish, “Economics” in the Anglosphere has always been Jewish. Gentiles do Jew think or they don’t teach. They don’t even graduate.

But at least you are talking about the right subject I am amazed by how few of the commentators are addressing it

It’s worth pointing out — and Mr. Unz could do this better than I can — that there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the mathematics involved that characteristically distorts this discussion. It may be true that a marginally higher proportion of Ashkenazi fall into the upper reaches of the IQ bell curve, but since Ashkenazi comprise under 2% of Americans, this results in a comparatively slight higher number of actual Ashkenazi persons falling into this category, by no means sufficient to account for the actual gross over-representations encountered in specific fields, so that proposals to account for these over-representations by the putative higher intelligence of the subjects amount to semi-smart sleights-of-hand.

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James Forrestal, first Secretary of Defense, reports on the Cabinet meeting of January 6, 1948, to discuss President Truman’s upcoming State of the Union message: “There was a passage about getting a college education for everyone. I offered it as my belief that the really serious question was the lack of proper secondary education, that a lot of them who went to college simply wasted their time, and that in the Service we had found great deficiencies in the training in simple mathematics, ability to write legibly and with clarity of expression, and that as a matter of fact in the case of a good many university graduates their education was not much use in preparing them for military service or for that matter for any other practical work.” (Forrestal Diaries p. 356)

Thirty years earlier (as I note above) Thorstein Veblen’s The Higher Learning in America points out the dominance of “business interests” and the Official Lie over American colleges. Plus ça change …

Obviously haven’t got around to it. So hurry up if you’re thinking of applying.

My mother had a chemistry PHD from Cornell with an IQ tested at 118. That was before affirmative action so she didn’t get any breaks.

I can’t see any non science MA or PHD needing an IQ over 110 or 105 especially for affirmative action people happy to follow their thesis advisor’s PC dogma. Last job before retirement was at a major university. Have had a lot of grad student tenants. Humanities theses are unbelievable loads of ….

Russian educations seems to be pretty good, but the public schools are stuck in the book-heavy Soviet era, and crippled by the masses of Central Asians. Same shit as in America with Central Americans. Pay to get your kid out of the brown morass, or pray for the best. Universities, however, are of very good quality, as the lower orders seldom get that far.

The number of international students has been growing strongly for decades — since most public universities have discounted in-state tuition/fees, international (and out-of-state) students have been and will continue to be a significant source of additional revenue.

I think American WASPs just had their day. Don’t just think in terms of British descent WASPs vs Jews. Think of other Christian European immigrants. I think German is still America’s largest ethnicity. They seem to occupy Pennsylvania to the Rockies. And a lot in the south too.

Germans were a large and important population in 19th early 20th century NYC St Louis Indianapolis Cleveland all Ohio cities Chicago Milwaukee Minneapolis and Philadelphia. About half are Catholic not Lutheran . Dutch were very influential and important in New York State and City for centuries.

Cities are more important than rural areas. Mid and late 19th century 1860 to 1950 saw many cities ruled by Irish Catholic politicians and German businesses

WASP domination stopped at the Appalachians.

The south was always more Scots, Irish and Scots Irish descendants than English. Lots of influential French in the south too. The religion was different than New England Protestants.

The south was genteel Anglicans and enthusiastic fundamentalist, not intellectual buttinsky save the world universalists. Southern fundamentalist have a personal relationship with God and the Bible. The New England Congregationalists and universalists just want to reform the world or something

Personal opinion is that the WASP ascendancy was just a myth created by resentful Irish and Jewish 19th century immigrants.

School bussing and black crime blasted the Irish and Germans out of the cities leaving them to the blacks and their Jewish leadership

If Jews are so intelligent why have the 3 places they ruled and still ruled Soviet Russia and American cities total failures under Jewish rule. Israel reasonably successful but only because it’s a welfare dependency of America I believe it’s GNP is the same as American aid

This is all just my opinion It’s not something I’m an expert on.

The California legislature does something right every 20 years or so. The state schools heaped on so many requirements without the necessary classes available students were taking 6 or 7 years to graduate. They weren’t slackers at all. Just couldn’t take BS 2 till they finished BS 1 but couldn’t sign up for BS 1

So the law was passed that if students didn’t graduate in 5 years their classes no tuition charged. Put the fault where it belonged; on the school.

嗨，有一段时间没有收到你的消息了。 希望看到您更多的评论。 恭喜你抚养孩子的方式。

I don’t know all those details, #299. The school I am most familiar with is no Ivy League type, but it has one new building that is a “gift” from a donor. Now that you present this likely scenario, I would like to find out how it worked. Lots of the new buildings though, new dorms, a new gym that is too good for the staff/faculty (only for the students) etc. aren’t even fake gifts such as you say.

Wall Street took control of American government incrementally from the Civil War forward. By 1898 it was in a position to drive the country into war and by 1916 toward the pursuit of world empire, achieved in the later 40s.

That explains it. What you are calling “Wall Street”, I am calling “NYC” and “New Netherland”. The confusion comes in that I’m assuming that “business culture” has always dominated NYC (founder effect from the original Dutch trading post in the AD 1600s) and you are assuming that NYC has another “culture”, independent of business, to which “Wall Street”, the financial part of the business culture, can be contrasted.

Not really much of a difference. The population of NYC has been pretty much ignored since the start of massive immigration in the 1840s, which the local population was strongly against (rioting at times, I’m told), and the business culture favored. No contest, the immigration continued. I’m looking at NYC from the standpoint of “what net effect did the region actually have”, and that effect has been a trading ethos with no loyalty to anybody, especially posterity.

Given that, we’re actually saying pretty much the same thing, except that I’m following the history a but further back.

Note that the net effect of “there is money in poverty” was to drive out the existing NYC population (funded by salaries, and requiring placation) and replace it with a foreign population that was directly funded by NYC government, hence easier to control. NYC for most purposes, needn’t consider its population’s desires at all now, and actually makes money from them by tax inflow to support the NYC welfare programs. Of course, NYC culture is getting replaced by its foreign inhabitants, and its inhabitants aren’t really interested in business, so long term the strategy has failed [1].

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Rosie, I didn’t have an 同意 left earlier, but the importing of rich foreigners to pay full tuition at the Universities is a big thing. The 2nd is to import Chinese and Indians to fill science/engr departments in grad school in order to do research on the cheap.* You are also right with that scenario (a big discussion that I got into with commenter AnonFromTn) that we are told we need these foreigners because Americans aren’t signing up to those grad schools. They aren’t signing up because the grad schools are full of cheap labor already, and people barely speak any English.

I’m talking mostly grad school here, because that’s where the preponderance of foreigners is. I don’t think the numbers are high enough at the undergrad level to stop the University Bubble from popping. For the State-supported schools** the State governments are going to get wise when their populations get wise to the fact that there is no benefit for the State coming out of them.

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* It may not be quite as cheap as they think, once you account for industrial and defense espionage – see the stories on “LA Woman” Si Chen 和 “California Professor” Yi-Chi Shih.

** and for Mr. Unz here, these are the ones I’ve been observing. It’s true they don’t get as big a proportion of their money from the States’ taxpayers anymore. I don’t think those are the big “hedge funds”. The Ivies are in a league all by themselves, and I neither have respect for, nor keep up with, the Harvards and such.

No objection here. Note, however, that even under the assumptions I used the headcount problem is still prohibitive. 1 vs. 3 or 4 is not a lot better than 1 vs. 10.

And if PhDs are IQ 140 — don’t think so. Varies by field, but for most outside the sciences 125 is about right, at least in my experience. 140 is rare.

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“攻读人文学科学位简直是无意义的——除非愚昧的雇主仍然要求大学学位。 （例如，没有一个就很难成为一名美国陆军军官）”……没有一个就很难获得任何类型的政府管理工作。没有大学学位，你可以成为微软、甲骨文或苹果公司的首席执行官，但可能不会成为美国的首席执行官。上一位不戴羊皮的美国总统是哈里·杜鲁门，上一位根本没有上过大学的总统是格罗弗·克利夫兰，他仍然通过在一家律师事务所当学徒来通过律师资格考试。更多证据表明，你甚至不需要大学学位就可以成为一名律师，更不用说成为一名电工了（尽管 ABA 现在需​​要一个大学学位来展示）。安德鲁·约翰逊没有获得任何学位或接受过任何形式的正规教育；林肯先生和他在 1864 年共和党总统竞选中的竞选伙伴——仍然被认为是有史以来最伟大的总统之一——并没有更多。但今天，很难想象一位没有文凭的总统，就像很难想象一位像林肯一样鼓舞人心的总统。所有总统候选人、内阁和其他高层任命者不仅需要学位，而且通常需要来自著名机构的学位。 2016 年总统竞选中，宾夕法尼亚大学对阵耶鲁大学； 2012年是哈佛商学院与哈佛法学院； 2008年，安纳波利斯诉哈佛法学院； 2004年，耶鲁vs耶鲁； 2000年，哈佛法学院 vs 哈佛商学院； 96 年，耶鲁大学法学院对阵沃什伯恩大学 (?!)（猜猜谁赢了？）； '92，耶鲁大学与耶鲁大学法学院； 88 年，哈佛法学院 vs 耶鲁大学。例外的当然是 1980 年的尤里卡学院，但在大多数情况下，如果你想在今天获得严肃的政治权力，你最好进入地位学校循环，即使只是为了你能保留的同伴。绅士的C就可以了。

“在美国，知识分子生活一直由洋基队 [1] 主导，他们非正式地称为“新英格兰人”，位于纽约北部地区……这就是洋基队和洋基统治者 [1]。他们已经被他们自己的普遍主义信仰所困扰，并得到了他们社会组织的全力支持……再见，祝你好运，愿你有一天对其他美国社会学保持一点谦逊”……只要他们有新英格兰爱国者队！

Post Modernism is Jewish. The question is why did your WASP’s give it up to the Jews

They didn’t just give up, they were enthusiastic about it. The 1950s were the era of the enormous organization, and people were overjoyed to give up their autonomy both mental and physical to the corporation. Discussion of ideas was forbidden. It remained so until quite recently, and may be changing now only after the widespread abuses of the Obama years and post-Obama TDS. To be blunt, complaisant ubcyruisuty (at about an IQ 110 level for office workers) was the preferred personality for everybody by Whites.

Which strengthens your question.

OK, best answer; I’ve been reading Kevin MacDonald’s _individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_ (available free as an Amazon Prime book, $22 or so as paperback). He actually has an answer. His book has neither index nor TOC in the Kindle version, but start looking for his work on puritans, which is summarized at Loc 5467 in the Kindle version. He and I, working independently, have hit on the same general conclusion (although is work is a lot better than mine): the end of resistance to non-European groups (in the US and Europe) was due to internal intellectual development. McDonald emphasizes the pathologies of individualism (esp. the idea that every H. Sap. is identical to every other, planet wide) whereas i emphasize the politics and the stunning effect of WW II, but the conclusions are about the same. If you really want an answer, I’d recommend the book mentioned above, perhaps supplemented by Woodward’s _American Nations_ and Ron Unz’s current article “understanding WW II”.

I maintain that it is the internal dynamics of the White group that are largely to blame in that they not only paralyzed resistance, but actually welcomed having somebody tell them what to do. I remember the heyday of that — it was almost as if God had spoken to the Whites and told them that from now on outgroups and non-Christian religions would be lifting the burden of responsibility off of their shoulders. They were so _happy_ [1]. Kind of appalling when you realize what these organizations did to their kids.

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1] See
William H. Whyte.
_The Organization Man_
originally published 1956.
Whyte was an old school editor of _Fortune_ magazine, and he reports (with a sort of amazed incredulity) the happiness I report above..

Looks like you read my last book. Marcus Aurelius, certainly, comes to mind.

Well, Marcus Aurelius ended a good thing for the Roman empire when he foisted his useless and depraved son Commodus on them as his successor. He himself, as well as his three forerunners Trajan, Hadrian, and Antoninus Pius had been hand-picked for ability, regardless of family connections.

Medical school in Britain including Ireland is only 5 years.

Only Veterinarian school is more difficult to enter.

The doctors’ union – The British Medical Association – has severely restricted training places for the past 50 years. That is why the NHS would collapse without doctors from India and Nigeria.

哦耶？
（引用）贫困学生被允许进入“精英大学”。 他们不明白，如果发生这种情况，“精英”只会将他们的孩子送到别处的大学，而原来的大学将不再被视为“精英”。 （取消引用）
允许所有学生平等进入一流大学的社会，或者像中国一样使用不同的第三级系统呢？
所以你说我们完全受精英人士和未来“精英”雇主的支配——你忘记了
资本主义趋于垄断，因此很少有雇主……
你作为一个老西方人，你忘记了最多30年内……模式、理想、成功的标杆将是中国？ 而美国/欧洲只是一个脚印？ …
还有软实力
世界会因为同样的原因而彻底改变吗？ （你瘦非洲54个国家，拉美20个国家会去哪里寻求灵感和保护？？？）
而唯一指明中国作为领导者走的所有道路的就是中国共产党？
那么你的“精英”选择会在哪里避难或为之奋斗？

没有大学学位你也可以成为微软、甲骨文或苹果的首席执行官

Yes, you probably could. But you wouldn’t be able to become a CEO, meaning competent and effective CEO, of Boeing, Caterpillar, Siemens, MTU or FANUC Robotics without serious engineering background. I will omit here R&D part altogether. You may thank US media and primarily this very same humanities “educated” punditry class who were hard at work for decades at removing correct understanding of real hi-tech industry from public by substituting it with code-writing and assembling iPhones (or Teslas). I’ll give you a hint–designing, testing and manufacturing a modern jet engine with FADEC to a high specifications is on several orders of magnitude more complex task than writing some “solutions”.

Well, Marcus Aurelius ended a good thing for the Roman empire

Marcus Aurelius was used merely as an example of the King-Philosopher, who he certainly was. Modern “philosophers” wouldn’t be qualified to maintain, pardon my French, basic sewer system of the basic commercial building, forget running effectively modern state, let alone win any war. Explaining to them, as an example, what Net-Centric Warfare is and how it influences, say, a political dimension of state’s (or nation’s) activities would simply freeze them. 21 Century is a bitch with its technology requiring totally different type of “philosophy”.

People, any people, try to externalize their internal problems. Here, many people say “it is the Jews” who have done this. And many Jewish representatives say “No it is not, so I’ll call you names and waste your time until you go away”. Punch and Judy theater, a wish to have some other group (Jew or non-jew) entirely responsible for things. I’ve always liked “Waiting for the barbarians” as a description of the entire West after WW II:
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/51294/waiting-for-the-barbarians

Kevin McDonald’s _Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_ offers what I think is a good explanation of how this state of affairs came about.

Actual change is coming as the current system runs out of resources and starts to fail.

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It should be obvious that granting degrees for opinions is ridiculous. The entirety of the ‘Humanities’ is nothing but opinions dictated from upon high by the last set of these useless graduates. The ‘Social Sciences’ are similarly a fraudulent attempt to associate science with what is largely opinion. Only the STEM areas of study have empirical evidence to back up their assertions and their graduates end up producing all the tangible things in the entire world.

If someone can successfully argue that there is some worth in the Humanities and Social Sciences, then cap their degrees at Bachelors until such time that they can prove with empirical evidence that what they claim is in fact truth. Handing out degrees above that limit for what today are just opinions makes no sense.

Once these bogus areas of study are publicly exposed for the frauds that they surely are, interest in them will wane and, if we’re lucky, disappear leaving only the STEM fields as higher education options.

Utah wasn’t demographically, say, North Carolina when you were attending college and Utah still, by and large, is not a negro magnet. So I guess the college administrators had to find another demographic to work their scam on.

内战的根本问题是美国从墨西哥和印第安人手中夺取的西部领土的使用上存在不可调和的国家政策分歧。国会或全国都没有意愿结束奴隶制，直到奴隶制被视为缩短战争和惩罚叛乱分子的工具。激进废奴主义只不过是一种政治上无能为力的边缘意识形态，但它为奴隶主提供了一个方便的外部敌人，用来分散和恐吓日益不满的南方白人。

南方种植园贵族开始相信，其经济生存取决于扩张，因为南方数十年的集约化烟草和棉花种植正在耗尽土壤，导致农作物产量不断减少。然而，美国人民显然希望这些肥沃的土地开放供自由白人家庭定居。

考虑到她们领导层的性格，“犯错的姐妹”不太可能打算“平静地离开”。他们在失去对联邦政府行政部门的长期控制权后才离开联邦，以其他方式追求其向西扩张的目标。

HBD是真实的。

(I believe HBD, along with 👌 and six gorillion, has been labeled “hate speech” by the ADL.)

” that a lot of them who went to college simply wasted their time, and that in the Service we had found great deficiencies in the training in simple mathematics, ability to write legibly and with clarity of expression, and that as a matter of fact in the case of a good many university graduates their education was not much use in preparing them for military service or for that matter for any other practical work.” (Forrestal Diaries p. 356)”

To reflect on my father, none of that rings true. He graduated from a small southern hick town HS in 1945. He was in the last class of eleventh grade graduates as the War Department imposed the 12 year high school diploma thereafter. I’m guessing his IQ was around 110-120. His childhood home life, while not one of abject poverty (in its day) was not especially advantageous either in terms of economics, physical comforts or family functionality. Thrift and pride were about the only things that kept it out of the “White trash” zone of the day.

By 1954 (without further formal education) he designed and drafted the plans for the construction of his first owner occupied dwelling which he speculatively had built in an undeveloped rural fringe of a small town. By 1957 he had sold the house for a substantial gain, bought a decent downscale house, quit his job and used the difference in housing to finance the start up of a family merchantile business that prospered until the middle 1980s. He designed, built and flew several homebuilt airplanes in his spare time. He also had several friends with eleventh grade educations from the same school system who had similar and even greater successes.

It’s all anecdotal, but just sayin’.

An IQ of 125 is too low to enter the ranks of PhDs, who are generally over 140, depending on the subject. Influential professors are presumably drawn from the top fraction of PhDs.

Richard Feynman’s IQ score was 126 (in his bio and his sister confirmed it). He got his Ph.D. in physics from Princeton and was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics. Ron Unz once had lunch with Feynman and said was awed by Feynman’s brilliance.

William Shockley’s IQ score was 129, then 125 when tested a year later (his 2007 bio). He got a Ph.D. in physics from MIT and was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics.

Luis Alvarez’s IQ score was below 135 (he failed to qualify for Terman study). He got his Ph.D. in physics from Chicago and was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics.

Francis Crick’s IQ score was 115. He got his Ph.D. in physics from Cambridge and went into the field of biology and was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine.

Btw, Ron, I’m waiting for your thoughts on the Harvard Asian discrimination case ruling. The NYT was honest enough to give you credit for the research proving this discrimination so I’m surprised they haven’t reached out to you after the ruling.

是他的妈妈。

解散寺院是一项掠夺工程

Marcus Aurelius was used merely as an example of the King-Philosopher

Right. And my point (made somewhat obliquely) was that it is hard to find a good example.

It seems there is simply to little a margin between bright and semi-dull. We should envision human nature as too limited to scale into anything that changes the systemics of society in the long term, but by mere hazardous, random betting …and once out of a few tens of thousand times, and by a single processor(individual), outside of any conventional credit, winning.

We cannot select at the age that matters, the human material that has the potential to envision and eventually, once in a while, produces original outcomes. We cannot and we want not. The rest is Aspirin, or for the US centrists, Advil for the brain.

Crock at 115 IQ seems implausibly low given his ww2 work and double helix
Do you have a cite ?

Read the British, not, Irish application information. They come right out and say we only want former colonial non Europeans. Maybe if the schools accepted some White British natives, the NHS wouldn’t need all those foreigners.

Compared to most advanced (White) countries
Britain has a lot of med schools.

I don’t mean to endorse Forrestal’s comments, just cite them. My sense is that, in some parts of America, anyways (probably excluding the South), the level of instruction, the quantity and quality of the curriculum, in grammar schools and in high schools, in 1930, say, was very significantly in advance of today’s average, and the level of instruction in colleges still moreso. In the 20s and 30s in America, the consensus was for disarmament, non-intervention, the pursuit of peace, live-and-let live, egalitarian social values, and in many communities the high school curriculum reflected this consensus. Big wealth and big business, on the other hand, seem to have already placed an iron grip on colleges before 1900, as is clear from Veblen’s discussion, for instance, or Upton Sinclair’s The Goose Step (c. 1920), and tightened it in response to the strong progressive upsurge of 1900-1916, which became a casualty of “preparedness” and official and unofficial repression on a national scale during the war.

是的。

My local less selective state university I’ve sometimes described as a jobs program with a schoolhouse attached, a regional, branded entertainment center, a day care center for young adults with a bookstore attached, an asylum for yesteryear’s four-eyed kids who became professors to get back at those who’d taunted them.

I think of 1000 freshmen, only 100 will have a job requiring a college degree in six years after matriculating.

The school once had a good reputation as a local backstop for the sons and daughters of blue-collar ethnics, talented Blacks, and Puerto Ricans. It still does, but undeservedly so. I’m certain the school is under state scrutiny for a raft of unsavory practices.

The lawsuit should have been narrower in purpose.

It should have conceded AA for blacks and American Indians.

It should have argued Latin American whites should count as whites.

It should have called for meritocracy only among whites(Latino whites included), Asians, and Jews.

With a fist full of hunreds, that’s how Marx found them, where doesn’t matter.

“the WASP ascendancy was just a myth”

That is an original idea. No, I think the WASP Ascendency was real. It was not a question of numbers. If it was, there never would have been an American entry into WW2 because German, and CAtholic Americans -actually most Americans – didn’t want it right up until Pearl Harbor. However Roosevelt, the Anlo elite and organized Jewry wanted to bring Fascism down. Fascism offered an alternative to Anglo Jewish capitalism – free markets and usury – and did so in the middle of the great depression. Something had to be done about it. The WASP got it done. But then what happened to the WASP? Today, who even talks abut them? They do seem like a myth. But I do not think Jews rule because they are so intelligent though it doesn’t hurt. I think Jews rule because there is something Jewish value-wise about Anglo societies as opposed to Germanic societies. Why this is so is my question.

Second reply:

Kevin McDonald’s new book _Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_ discusses the importance of Puritan (New England / Yankeedom) thought to the emergence of the present system. It is well worth reading.

In practice, I have run across many more Yankee enforcers than I have Jewish enforcers, and the Yankee enforcers thoroughly believed what they were enforcing. True enough that the Jewish “intellectuals”[1] of the 1950s tweaked Puritan thought, they didn’t tweak it much.

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1] Writings by “intellectuals” (any sort) of the 1950s don’t hold up very well. You get the idea that they didn’t have much intellect. It was all grandiose promises that, in the event, could not be kept. Example: Social policy back then was to produce students of absolute equality in education _and in reasoning ability_. I got caught up in that and hurt badly enough to remember it. The literature said that educators would use drugs as needed to raise the dumb students up and dumb the smart students down.
I know, an atrocity, but not only is it what they said, it’s what they later did (fortunately I was ot of their reach by the time drugs came into common use).
Turned out the drugs only worked one way — dumbing the smart ones down. That and teaching almost nothing — dumb students could learn nothing just as well as smart drugged students.
Add in the dumb students beating up the smart drugged ones and the ideal of identical results came closer.
The ideal was students who tested the same, and the 1950s ideal of identical output is still being achieved — one hears of “black / white” gap in testing, and continued efforts to decrease it. Output may be almost unemployable, but if so that’s too bad. Th intent is to make output testing uniform, not to employ graduates.

This was supported by the “intellectuals”, is a truly stupid thing to do, and is here mentioned to show how non-intellectual _all_ “intellectuals were”. I should add a few things about how liberal education actually blinded people to the disaster of Communist rule in Russia and under Mao in China, but I’ve said enough already. “Intellectuals”. Ha! Seriously stupid people who wrapped jargon around themselves like a cocoon around a pupal stage moth.

It should have conceded AA for blacks and American Indians.

Why should plaintiffs have “conceded” that? — Harvard class of 2023 is 14.3% black (given a class size of 2009, that’s 287 students), greater than the black share of the US population — given test scores at the very top of the distribution, which is where Harvard draws (or ought to draw) its students, there is simply no way — 无道 — there would be so many black admittees without heavy affirmative action — reducing black admittees to well under 5%, which is doubtless appropriate on merit, would immediately free up 200 places.

Making themselves at home in Harvard Yard — check out the fotos: looks like they’re trying to recreate Noah’s Ark, or populate a zoo.

Affirmative action at elite universities is absurd — these less-qualified students can simply study somewhere else.

Typical cuck nonsense — way too much has already been “conceded”.

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If anything, one could say the lawsuit against Harvard was a foolish waste of money — the ‘axiomatic’ view of the American Establishment is that diversity is a Good Thing where “the end justifies the means” — see Grutter v Bollinger, which upheld the “compelling interest” language that first appeared in the Bakke case — so the (sad) truth is, any court has sufficient precedent to find against the plaintiffs in such cases — it’s pointless to ‘concede’ anything.

“To a Brit parent Berkeley just sounds exotic and learned. To US graduates it’s another dysfunctional shadow of past quality.=

It really depends on what you study, so it makes no sense to generalize like that.

2016年世界自然科学与数学大学学术排名

http://shanghairanking.com/FieldSCI2016.html

Here are the top ten universities in their most recent ranking within this domain:

1. UC-Berkeley, 2. Stanford, 3. Princeton, 4. Harvard, 5. MIT,
6. Cal-Tech, 7. Cambridge, 8. Tokyo, 9. ETH-Zurich, 10. UCLA.

The key fallacy that ruled in the 1950s (and continues in a diluted form to this day) was that “social science” would work sorta like science.

Any problem could be fixed through a complete analysis of data, and then we would all live together in a perfect world.

Gigantic institutions (government, education, non-profit, even corporate) were built in pursuit of this dream.

The result–total and complete failure–and an attempt at censoring any and all critics of these bloated zombie institutions.

If you want to understand the problem behind the problem I would encourage you to check out Rupert Sheldrake’s classic “banned Ted Talk” on the fallacies of “science”:

Most parents cannot afford a private school or tutors.

It’s time for tuition vouchers to end the government schools’ advantage, and a universal basic income to replace the welfare state bureaucracy.

与此同时，大学的建设也掀起了疯狂的热潮。所有的钱从哪里来？

I could tell you – but someone would have to kill me.

Good, I hope so.

2016年世界自然科学与数学大学学术排名

All those “rankings” are a complete BS, no matter how one tweaks all kinds of criteria. Just to give an example: effectively Bauman MGTU produced world’s first Soviet space program (Korolev, Chelomei bunch of cosmonauts), Russian/Soviet aviation (Zhukovsky, Tupolev, Sukhoi, Myasishev), hell, even German national-socialism was created by its alumni–Alfred Rosenberg. None of them were Nobel Prize winner–yet they created world’s best rockets, space stations, rocket engines, best fighter planes and strategic bombers, a dazzling array of the state-of-the-art weapons and were behind nuclear power revolution, just to name a few. Do you see this institution in these rankings? I know how those rankings and other “models” are created–it is all complete crap, same as “quotation index” and publication mills. Do you want to see what entrance exams in MGTU require? Good luck for Harvard or MIT prospective students solving couple of entrance exam problems in Physics or Math to MGTU.

MGTU:

Do you see this institution in these rankings?

Perhaps their supposed merits are kept so secretive that they can defy outside assessment.

Maybe they’re just a “one trick pony” institute, of which there are plenty in the world.

It could be that their published output is only Russian language, hence “under the radar”.

It’s possible their aeronautical engineering expertise is outside the scope of science and math.

You ought to file a complaint with MGTU if you feel they didn’t promote their expertise.

The point of my initial response was merely to counteract the unwarranted supposition about UC-Berkeley.

Perhaps their supposed merits are kept so secretive that they can defy outside assessment.

Yeah, sure. So you, obviously, never heard of Korolev or Tupolev.

http://www.bmstu.ru/en/

That pretty much explains your post. You are aware that that humanity flies into space and uses nuclear power, right?

Mig, l agree – but would say that the SJW’s are liberals and merely useful idiots for TPTB.
这里有 没有 leftists, as you describe, providing effective action -and may l add -standing firm and screaming truth to power against the secret- police alphabet agencies and their pliant lackeys in the media.
I see the same old Birkenstock hippie types who have all the time in the world to protest every Tuesday across the street from my shop here in Philly; not one of them will risk calling out the secret police- ( and both criminal mafia “ political” parties) in fact they are oblivious and outright angered by assertions that they are essentially advocating for their version of the not -so -deep -state.

So who won the fight in the parking lot afterward?

This was supported by the “intellectuals”, is a truly stupid thing to do, and is here mentioned to show how non-intellectual _all_ “intellectuals were”. I should add a few things about how liberal education actually blinded people to the disaster of Communist rule in Russia and under Mao in China, but I’ve said enough already. “Intellectuals”. Ha! Seriously stupid people who wrapped jargon around themselves like a cocoon around a pupal stage moth.

You’re really talking about leftists that only fancy themselves as intellectuals and then will ex-communicate anyone that questions egalitarian orthodoxy.

Yes the social sciences are filled with leftist and egalitarian junk from the 50’s and 60’s and they still quote it today as if it is established science. A lot of it was written by a handful of egalitarians and is not “peer reviewed” as one might assume.

But I’m not convinced that the social sciences are filled with idiots. If anything it is a certain personality type that is attracted to them. A non-questioning type that wants to believe in blank slate and that “the man” is holding everyone down. Then there are also cynical personalities that are fully aware of the flaws but believe we need to be dishonest about certain issues (or most in the social sciences) or fascism will come back. So basically the naive do-gooder and the dishonest socialist.

“…never heard of Korolev or Tupolev.=

These men were aerospace engineers and designers at a time when the USSR was extremely secretive in that industrial endeavor, and both of them died nearly half a century ago. This is barely relevant to a contemporary assessment, based on a published methodology, of top university engagements in the specific fields of Physics, Chemistry, and Mathematics.

Yeah, thanks. I am getting MacDonald’s book. I do not mean to suggest that “the Jews” are THE
prime mover in any of our problems though they are obviously among the major players. I do think that our Western individualism needs analysis because it is both our strength and our tragic flaw. But I also think there is something special about the anglo – a reciprocity with the Jews which has had huge effects in this country. Being neither Anglo nor Jew I am particularly curious about how these two interact. Enjoy your comments

This is barely relevant to a contemporary assessment, based on a published methodology

Again, this is the point: “methodology” is fraud, or in more lay language–BS. Per contemporary assessment namely 21st century: do you know what GLONASS is, any idea which ships and rocket engines take NASA to space, do you know why West lost conventional (and nuclear too, actually) arms race? I’ll give you a hint–it is one way or another related to MGTU and a hist of STEM top-notch schools it sprouted, including such institutions as MAI. I offered above, in a post, to compare pathetic academic level of SAT/ACT required for acceptance into say MIT or Berkley with entrance exams’ requirements in Physics and Mathematics for those who enter examination process after taking EGE tests on the exit from schools. So simple. This is not to mention that I knew and know quite a few people from US universities from STEM field. The ONLY thing US Universities have on the rest of the world and even this gap is closing are their magnificent science labs.

designers at a time when the USSR was extremely secretive in that industrial endeavor

Whole scientific world knows who Sergei Korolev, Andrei Tupolev, Nikolai Dollezal or Pavel Sukhoi were and what they left from scientific and engineering schools to a very tangible things one can observe today on TV, Internet and in media. All of them and many more living are one way or another connected to MGTU. So this beaten to death “secret argument” is just that–BS. I omit elaborating here on a larger point of, in general, most “ratings” based on primarily Western “methodologies” are fraud, be that in purely academic, economic and military issues.

do you know why West lost conventional (and nuclear too, actually) arms race?

I don’t mean to take away one iota from the Russians’ accomplishments, I have always considered them a highly talented people. But the key reason why the West lost the arms race is simply corruption – both moral and financial. The state of the education system doesn’t help, but many other sectors of technical development that draw their employees from the same pool as the arms industry are a lot less dysfunctional than the latter. Of course, the rot is spreading, as evident from Boeing’s ongoing debacle.

That’s one of the views on the Civil War. It became generally known after about AD 1960, and is frequently associated with the “Civil War doesn’t mean anything racially because …” thesis. There are other views.

I think you’d be interested in Kevin MacDonald’s _Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_, which assigns a much larger role to abolitionists than the does the view you recapitulated. MacDonald makes a very strong case.

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谢谢你的赞美！

I do not mean to suggest that “the Jews” are THE
prime mover in any of our problems though they are obviously among the major players. I do think that our Western individualism needs analysis because it is both our strength and our tragic flaw. But I also think there is something special about the Anglo – a reciprocity with the Jews which has had huge effects in this country.

I’m in full agreement here. And after reading MacDonald’s book, I think you’ll be even firmer in your belief about the Anglo. MacDonald has plenty to say about NW Europe as well.

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我无意抹杀俄罗斯人的成就一丁点

Neither am I trying to degrade or diminish West’s in general, and US in particular, very real tangible accomplishments in fundamental and applied science–this goes without saying. But having said all that–the state of American public schools can only be described in one word when related to STEM–a catastrophe. This, automatically, drags down higher education. As one my acquaintance, Ph.D in Mathematics, taught in 2000s and early 2010s in one of the best California universities: it is a normal occurrence to meet students with great SAT scores and entering STEM who cannot factor simple quadratic trinomial. The meme of American math and physics Olympiad national team (all Chinese, Hindus and Jews) is not really a meme–it is a testimony of the US public education deliberately dumbing down courses. As per military field–oh, boy, the problem is not only technological–such as US could not design and build simple supersonic anti-shipping missile before this missile became so expensive that Congress shut down the whole program. Not just that, the problem is cultural and doctrinal. As per Boeing, they should recover–too great of a history and achievements. I still love B-747 and 777. In fact, I loved B-727 too. But yes, I would rather fly today West coast-East one on A-321. Jet Blue A-321s are immaculate and a great service with wonderful leg room.

““freelance fringe” of academia—who would hang around university towns and do occasional university tutoring in addition to other work, such as journalism”

It’s for the tail. So much sweet tail.

If you want to understand the problem behind the problem I would encourage you to check out Rupert Sheldrake’s classic “banned Ted Talk” on the fallacies of “science”

完成。

Agree that “social science” wasn’t either: its practitioners were more anti-social than social, and they wee politics, not science. Still are, hence Antifa, doxing, firing from jobs as auxillary parts of social science practice.

Sheldrake’s critique of science is interesting. Science is just as mystic and dogma ridden as anything else, that part is true. It rests on the idea that there are symbol systems (mathematics, human languages) that permit understanding of the physical universe, hence at least some questions can be answered. And, in practice, quite a few questions can be answered. Quite few can’t, also — elementary chaos theory [1], NP complete problems [2], and the Abelian sandpile model [3] suggest that some physical problems exist that can never be solved. Science is thus necessarily incomplete forever. In fact, nobody knows how Homo Sapiens, supposedly developed by evolution to survive in the wild with a troop of other Homo Sapiens, can possibly have a mind that can know about events in the center of the Milky Way galaxy. Did the brain structure capable of that just happen to evolve? Seems unlikely, but what other answer is there? Why does the human ability to invent different mathematics tend to invent mathematics that describes the entire universe? Why is there any connection at all between human mathematics and, say, the motion of the planets of our star system? No answer, and in that sense science has no foundation.

That’s not as confining as it may seen; scientific theories predict, although we don’t know why. There are plenty of unsolved and very important physical problems, some of
which can be solved an others not. The difficulty is in _picking the right problems_ and _asking questions that can be answered_ in some useful way.

The social sciences never did quite ask questions that could be answered, just questions that they could lie about having answered. Population genetics and human history are just now this decade starting to formulate questions that can be answered, and that might really be answered in a relaible way given another 50 years or so of development in biology. Social sciences were, as you said and I said above, neither social nor science.

So I’d say that Sheldrake is right about science being constrained by a refusal to consider certain questions (“dogmas”). However, he apparently can’t ask dogma relate questions that can be answered, and so he doesn’t have a solution, hence his questions aren’t all that interesting (at least to me). A question with no answer is a mildly interesting diversion, but no more. At least Sheldrake is simply posing the questions, not claiming to answer them, and deserves some praise because nobody else is doing even that.

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1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Theory

2] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/210829/what-is-an-np-complete-in-computer-science

2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Theory

3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abelian_sandpile_model

I think that the term “intellectuals” goes back to the “intelligentsia” of Eastern Europe [1]; an “intellectual” is a member of the “intelligentsia”. As I remember the account, when Imperial Russia took over Poland they tried “nation building”, sending locals to school so that they could administer their own country according to Imperial Russian standards [2]. The graduates of these schools who made it into the bureaucracy were called the “intelligentsia” by the Russians, and proved to be a source of very strongly held anti Imperial Russian revolutionary sentiments, supposedly validated by their education and position (both provided by Imperial Russia). Stalin tried much the same “educate a new middle and upper-middle class” plan, and avoided the revolutionary aspect by claiming to _be_ the revolution himself, and destroying anybody who did more than parrot Party slogans.
“Intelligentsia” thus means, in practice, a group of half educated (and often half-bright) people with an exaggerated sense of their own knowledge and a serious desire to change things in some unworkable way. An “intellectual” is a member of the Intelligentsia.

For examples of intellectuals, look at the public figures with TDS.

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1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligentsia

2] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/intelligentsia
Note Russian origin of the term.

they keep increasing tuition and fees

No, they keep increasing tuition 费.

Actual tuition is disappearing, along with the proper meaning of the word. The corruption can be seen as early as 1828:

TUI’TION, noun [Latin tuitio, from tueor, to see, behold, protect, etc.; Latin duco, to lead.]

1. Guardianship; superintending care over a young person; the particular watch and care of a tutor or guardian over his pupil or ward.

2. More especially, instruction; the act or business of teaching the various branches of learning. We place our children under the preceptors of academies for tuition [This is now the common acceptation of the word.]

3. The money paid for instruction. In our colleges, the tuition is from thirty to forty dollars a year.

“。..methodology” is fraud, or in more lay language–BS.=

Are you suggesting that MGTU ought to be listed within the world’s top five universities, pertaining to the field of science and mathematics, in an alternative ranking, based on objective criteria?

If so, what would be such fair and objective criteria? Which, if any, of the ten universities mentioned in post #165 would still remain in a top ten ranking done according to your standards?

题外话，但读了更多关于太平洋战争的内容，我以前对太平洋战争知之甚少，我不禁意识到日本人有多么强大。它们确实横跨太平洋很远，大约在它们高度的一半处。他们曾经一度被东南亚的英国人和荷兰人（还有美国人）摧毁了。

美国空军从中国基地对日本目标的轰炸似乎造成了重大、决定性的损害。事情后来就不再是一场真正公平的游戏了。苏联已经完成了对抗纳粹的大部分工作，这意味着美国和英国接下来有更多的应对措施来对付日本，日本正在太平洋南部和东部与盎格鲁人作战，并且拥有大量中国人口美国/英国的大量物资援助在另一边抵制他们。更不用说石油瓶颈了。我只是说，考虑到日本人的相对规模，他们非常强大。今天我对俄罗斯也有同样的看法。人口只有150亿，但在军事上却可以造成巨大的破坏，更不用说俄罗斯拥有得天独厚的自然资源。

日本人在科学和工程方面也取得了如此多的成就。纯数学和理论物理乃至最困难的应用领域的世界级工作。当然，作为二战的战败国，他们在战后受到了很大的阻碍。

就太平洋和东南亚的实际海空军力量投射而言，中国与二战时的日本相比还有很长的路要走。有一些白痴中国人看不起俄罗斯，认为他们很穷，甚至说中国最南端的广东省，包括深圳、广州、香港等，本身就相当于或高于俄罗斯（以GDP衡量）。他们没有意识到，当人数较少但军事力量强大的人可以轻易从你手中夺走GDP时，GDP就毫无意义了。我相信过去十年中国在太平洋和东南亚的空军和海军方面取得了长足的进步，但他们在某种程度上仍然缺乏正确的政治姿态，其中很大一部分原因是缺乏经验。中国打过的所有战争都是陆地战争，只有很少的空中或海军部分。中国已经在近海陆战中证明了自己，但通过海军和空中力量投射到远离家乡的地方需要更高的水平，这才是超级大国的定义。这种情况很可能在未来十年或两三年内发生变化，可能会在太平洋上与美国发生一些对抗，而中国会进一步类似于日本在二战中所做的那样。我们拭目以待。

我很好奇你对我的想法有何看法。

Are you suggesting that MGTU ought to be listed within the world’s top five universities, pertaining to the field of science and mathematics, in an alternative ranking, based on objective criteria?

Absolutely. Plus MAI in top 10. Per US Universities–MIT and Caltech look proper in this ranking.

If so, what would be such fair and objective criteria?

Applicability in terms of tangible technological achievements. In other words, not some abstract “scientific” output judged by publications but impact on actual scientific-technological progress of humanity.

我很好奇你对我的想法有何看法。

Generally–agree. Per this:

有一些白痴中国人看不起俄罗斯，认为他们很穷，甚至说中国最南端的广东省，包括深圳、广州、香港等，本身就相当于或高于俄罗斯（以GDP衡量）。

I guess the events with Missile Attack Warning System, Center-2019 maneuvers and CR-929 development (and, rather lack of progress in Comac-919), and nuclear power stations contract have all answers to those people. Real hi-tech, even for all China’s impressive achievements, is an extremely hard thing and requires more than just money–it needs a scientific school which is much harder to develop.

Real hi-tech, even for all China’s impressive achievements, is an extremely hard thing and requires more than just money–it needs a scientific school which is much harder to develop.

That sort of scientific achievement needs more than money, and also more than just money and talent – it needs an ethos of honesty, rigour, and perseverance. The modern trend of judging “excellence” simply by paper output per unit of time, which is an important metric in all those silly beauty contests (a.k.a. “rankings”), makes it difficult for scientists to focus on the hard but important problems.

China has imported too much of that American academic culture of bedazzlement. They should start sending more of their young people elsewhere for training.

“Applicability in terms of tangible technological achievements设立的区域办事处外，我们在美国也开设了办事处，以便我们为当地客户提供更多的支持。“

So you’re really referring to engineering rather than basic science and mathematics.

How about chip design and software? For instance, central processing units, graphical processing units, programmable integrated circuits, micro-controllers, the kind of innovations coming from California’s extended Silicon Valley. That ought to put UC-Berkeley and Stanford at the top of your ranking too.

Is there anything analogous to Silicon Valley in the Moscow or St. Petersburg region, perhaps on a smaller scale? Or do the majority of graduates from those Russian universities you cited move to northern California to begin their careers?

Or do the majority of graduates from those Russian universities you cited move to northern California to begin their careers?

You need to update yourself on a number of key issues re: Russian grown talent–accidentally grown in Russian universities–this is not to mention some funny little things called naukograds such as Skolkovo or NGU and some other places, especially under auspices of such organization as Rosatom. US leads the world, for now, in chip design. I do not contest Berkley or Stanford as not merited to be in this list, I merely presented you with MIT as one of the most important engineering and scientific schools. Silicon Valley was all the fad in 1990s and 2000s. Silicon Valley didn’t help the United States “win” the arms race for all its designs. Using Google Translate you may review trends (through 2015) in international students here:

https://popecon.ru/otrivki/701-kolichestvo-inostrannyh-studentov-v-stranah-mira.html

And even then it will point out to a significant (from 23 to 18%) decrease of international students in the US. The joke that what is the US STEM university as a place in American where Russian Jews teach Chinese mathematics is increasingly valid. You may also read this (in Russian) and assess some key factors in all educational statistics.

https://rg.ru/2017/11/13/chislo-inostrannyh-studentov-v-rossii-vyrastet-vtroe.html

或在这里

https://studyinrussia.ru/actual/articles/skolko-inostrannykh-studentov-v-rossii/

As I already stated–most (not all) US students, even with high SAT/ACT scores, unless they received intensive private tutoring beyond the scope of public school STEM programs, will fail entrance exams to a large number (up to 50) leading Russian universities in STEM because knowledge stipulated for the entrance into them is much larger than American schools’ programs. Here is you answer to Russian computer geeks in Silicon Valley. Foreign students from near and far abroad go to study in Russia first of all science-engineering specialties and discipline, with medicine close second.

That sort of scientific achievement needs more than money, and also more than just money and talent – it needs an ethos of honesty, rigour, and perseverance. The modern trend of judging “excellence” simply by paper output per unit of time, which is an important metric in all those silly beauty contests (a.k.a. “rankings”), makes it difficult for scientists to focus on the hard but important problems.

Excellent point, simply superb.

China has imported too much of that American academic culture of bedazzlement. They should start sending more of their young people elsewhere for training.

There are very many Chinese students in Russia, primarily in fundamental science and engineering (surprise…). I really liked your term “bedazzlement”. The whole Bologna Process is crap, as is “credit base” as opposed to rigorous program-based “education”.

“You may also read this (in Russian)…=

Though I don’t read Russian, I am at least familiar with the basic word PECTOPAH from prior travel.

I was amused by the first image at the “Study in Russia” link you cited; low frontal camera angle of five young people sitting on green grass, of which two are African (male and female) and two are likely Chinese (male and female). This is the most ultra 政治正确 imagery than I have seen before. (Western images will usually feature only one male Negro and one female Chinese appearing in a group of five.) And in case viewers didn’t get the message the second photo depicts a Negress with glasses and fuzzy hair. The third (and last) image shows four students, all of which are Chinese. This is truly hilarious.

谢谢你给我启发。

I am not sure I follow your point (because it could be altogether a stock photo) but if you would follow the link here:

https://studyinrussia.ru/why-russia/testimonials/

You would be able to read responses of students (from Russia’s universities) ranging from Arab world, to France, Italy, Spain, India, US, Brazil etc. All with photos of students.

Good comments–you may enjoy the “Trialogues” that were discussions with Sheldrake, Terence McKenna, and the mathematician Ralph Abraham on a wide range of philosophical issues.

https://www.sheldrake.org/audios/the-sheldrake-mckenna-abraham-trialogues

These are the kinds of discussions that universities need to have–to teach students to really think instead of just parroting the opinions of authority figures.

I do not claim to have answers on this stuff–I just want to see intelligent discussions about them. That is the way that human knowledge can advance.

American ‘elite’ universities where celebrities with a lot of $ bribe the admissions office to get their underachieving children admitted.

This is what contemporary ‘advanced’ capitalism IS, not a distortion of it! If you start cutting at it, you’ll be tearing out a huge chunk of the ‘middle class’. And what do you expect them to do? Carpentry? I’m not sure what the answer is but obviously Andrew Yang at least has been thinking about it.

No it is a distortion because they aren’t doing what they claim which is studying social problems. They aren’t taking a check for any type of production which is also a distortion. Sure you can find fluff jobs built with meaningless jargon in corporate America but there is a huge difference which is that they aren’t indoctrinating students for a living.

Forget carpentry, we would be better off paying these lying professors to sit around and watch television.

They are doing more harm than good. Half the point of the Frankfurt School is to replace critical thinking. Basically turn students into leftist zombies.

@J Alfred Powell
But the “wokeness” of American colleges is strictly fake. They pose as “left” (or “right”) on decoy issues — mostly “identity politics” — but rigorously repress discussion of causes — notably the financial operations of the Wall Street elite kleptocracy.

The right posturing in the colleges is centered around Chicago school ideology. Basically the belief that everything you are taught about Socialism in your other classes is wrong for economic reasons but race also doesn’t matter. Libertarian horse manure but with neat little charts and graphs and overuse of the word 无弹性的.

Just don’t ask why there are so many s-thole capitalist countries. Must be a trade imbalance or something. Have they seen the graphs?

You can find a variety of jargons and theories and ideological stances in American colleges, varying by colleges, areas, and disciplines but they all have several things in common. Each has its agenda, according to which some facts are emphasized and other suppressed, and each and all viewed from one rigid perspective according to the dictates of the discipline’s regnant “authorities.” But all are tacitly agreed about what facts and what issues are allowed on the table and what aren’t. The saying that “if you want to know who rules you, consider who you are not allowed to criticize” is played out on a deeper level: what deeply matters, in the social sciences and humanities, is what you are not allowed to discuss at all, what questions are not to be asked, what facts are forbidden to investigate or state. The fake “left” and the fake “right” concur in simply refusing to treat honestly the simple facts of — for three salient example among hundreds — fractional banking, or the real distribution of wealth in America, or the concentration of corporate ownership under the control of banks — notwithstanding the fact that, if you can find them, there are published scholarly factual studies conclusively discussing all these subjects. Which are consigned to obscurity and silence. Similarly in history, for example, the vast literature published between 1919 and 1939 conclusively establishing the facts of the causes of the First World War and how America was driven into it, is simply ignored. Colleges teach official history, the facts be damned. Not only ‘recent’ history is effected. The myth that Athenian democracy depended fundamentally and extensively on slavery was concocted out of whole cloth by anti-democratic British historians in the early 19th century and conclusively debunkt about 50 years ago, in a book (Osborne, Demos) which subsequent discussion simply ignores — and evidently collaborates in ignoring, for all that its discussion is conclusive and obvious. Fifty years ago Lawrence Goodwyn’s Democratic Promise demolished the toxic lies of the likes of Hofstadter and established the genuine history of the American populist tradition on the basis of indubitable fact. Which is totally ignored in favor of continuing to parrot Hofstadter’s toxic lie. Why? In every case, because the truth threatens power. The first “charter” ever granted to a university was granted to the Sorbonne by the Vatican — to get control over its free-discussion of theological matters. Today’s American Boards of Regents are appointed to serve the interests and ends the financial-industrial-military-media-political complex — call it Wall Street.

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Despite your “frivolous” description of the Humanities, Hague gets it right: only the Humanities provide EDUCATION, properly so called (as Plato and Aquinas would have agreed); the rest provide TRAINING, a kind of high-IQ barber college ”

You tried some math and science courses, but they were too hard for you, weren’t they?

You have to distinguish between quantitative social science, which is often interesting itself as well as providing stores of interesting and useful data, and 垃圾学术界: this is where a lot of what you want to call “social science” originates: it is junk produced by 垃圾学者 (新的真实同行评论).

People like eg Arthur Jensen, Charles Murray, and Richard Herrnstein can all conceivably be called “social scientists” — there are many others who do (and did in the past) equally interesting and valuable work.

The concept of social science has a deep underlying fallacy.

The only way to study any of this stuff “scientifically” would be with Monte Carlo simulations–try a social policy from _identical_ initial conditions, and run the model millions of times to see what happens.

That is impossible of course.

Human beings are just not understood–period.

Large groups of human beings are even less understood.

We don’t even know what consciousness is.

We don’t know our place in the universe–whether we have a purpose, or not, or, if so, what it might be.

PHDs in this field are indeed smelly stuff piled higher and deeper.

There is no there there–that is the dirty little secret of “social science”.

>因为科学家们正在进行的对话超出了他们的想象

哦是的。永远不要低估人文学科类型对 STEM 的自卑情结，以及他们感受到的持续压力，发明越来越荒谬的“理论”和古怪的术语，以维持他们学科的难度在任何方面都可以与 STEM 相媲美的幻觉。

事实是，我们 STEM 可以做他们所做的事情。但他们做不到我们所做的。

哦是的。永远不要低估人文学科类型对 STEM 的自卑情结，以及他们感受到的持续压力，发明越来越荒谬的“理论”和古怪的术语，以维持他们学科的难度在任何方面都可以与 STEM 相媲美的幻觉。

Exactly. One of the greatest summaries of the Political and Social “Science” field in history. A stroke of genius written and acted.

安德烈·马尔佳诺夫，

有几个问题要问我们尊敬的前苏联红军军官。

1）在俄罗斯还有很多中国学生？最好的往往会去美国。根据我有限的观察，较小比例的优秀产品会流向德国。当然，很多人都呆在家里。中国国防部门的人员往往缺乏海外经验。

1950世纪50年代，许多最优秀的中国人被派往苏联学习或工作。我个人知道杜布纳有一个联合核研究所。我知道王淦昌（我读到他在那里领导了一个团队，发现了一些粒子），也知道周光召（一位理论家，根据他在那里所做的工作，后来成为美国国家科学院院士，那是 60 世纪 XNUMX 年代初） XNUMX年代，两人均回到中国，并在核武器计划中发挥了主导作用。

2）这个狂热的反共反中华人民共和国（也反俄罗斯）的美国犹太人（现在是美国顶尖学校的博士生，专业非常理论化）对我说，他认为在苏联研制出第一颗核武器之前不用核武器攻击苏联是正确的做法。一个可怕的错误。您对此有何看法？ 1945-49 年间，美国的核选择可能会造成什么损害？他们的轰炸机如何轻松地成功轰炸俄罗斯大城市和/或重要的军事和工业目标而不被击落？

有趣的是，那家伙甚至说，因为俄罗斯人是白人，所以美国人对他们的自由、民主和人权有更高的标准，而把普京与习近平相比，很多人会被冒犯。

3）你甚至声称在朝鲜战争期间，苏联飞行员驾驶的MIG-15击败了美国飞行员。但蒋介石/美国物理学教授的这位远亲声称，美国空军退伍军人的叙述是基于其他情况的。他说，因为美国的审查力度不如苏联，所以这可能是真的，或者类似的事情。您对中国军队在那场战争中的能力和表现有何看法？在中国的一些电视剧中，他们声称联合国总共伤亡了大约700,000万（其中包括韩国人），而中国军队则损失了300,000万。 （我忘了具体的，被杀，受伤，被俘等等之间有区别）。我只是觉得这有点夸张了。但中国军队确实占领了首尔大约三个月，对此没有争议。

4）我记得，你认为美国在与苏联的军备竞赛中失败了。为什么这么说？苏联的军事技术在哪些方面优于美国，哪些方面劣于美国。

5）最后，您对中国审查互联网有何看法。甚至像 Quora 和 Twitter 这样的英文网站也被淘汰了。 WordPress 也很慢。他们还关闭了 VPN。结果就是像我这样忙忙碌碌的人根本不关心上西方媒体。我可以在工作中使用，因为公司提供了它。由于香港的事情和国庆节，他们更加严格了。因此，Unz Review 在加载时遇到了一些问题，只要网站嵌入了 YouTube 或 Google 分析，这种情况就可能发生。因此，我无法直接回复您的评论。该回复按钮实际上并未出现。您认为俄罗斯也应该这样做吗？俄罗斯没有自己的 YouTube，这意味着我在那里观看苏联音​​乐视频会更加困难。也许中国会更进一步，公开拒绝有谷歌或Facebook经验的中国公民。有人告诉我，如果你的简历上有这些，它可能而且很可能会在政府组织中用来对付你，你肯定无法成为其中的领导者。

托瓦里什·马尔蒂亚诺夫还有一些话，

您如何看待美国记录您的所有信息、电子邮件等，以及您所写的内容引发的强烈反对。返回俄罗斯怎么样？在那里你不是默认的外国颠覆特工。你看，我在俄罗斯使用 mail.ru 与俄罗斯人交谈感觉更舒服。

还有，在他们控制的媒体上用他们的语言与讨厌你的人争论是一场失败的游戏。许多与美国老板发生争执的美国人都是具有这种性格的东欧人。我只是不明白这一点。在美国，你在那里做技术工作，充其量是一名中层管理人员，美国企业不会提拔你或真正接受你作为自己的人，也作为东欧人，尤其是具有浓厚苏联背景的俄罗斯人。他们只接受反苏联的俄罗斯移民，他们不是真正的俄罗斯人，比如永远惹恼中国政府的谢尔盖·布林。公平地说，在美国企业界，在创办公司、致富、成为高管方面，台湾人和非中国人比俄罗斯人做得更好。

Jensen Huang – Nvidia（严肃技术）
杨致远 – 雅虎（他被踢出了，但仍然如此）
微软有陆奇，还有沉向洋向首席执行官汇报（他们是中国大陆人，基本上都是美国的混蛋）
甚至更早之前，有一个王安，他在20,000年代创办了王氏实验室，雇用了80多名员工，他发明了一些使用了20年的存储设备或类似的东西，以此为基础创办了公司。

如果我没记错的话，AMD CEO也是一位台湾女性？台湾人在半导体和芯片设计方面做得非常好？俄罗斯不是也去台积电买一些东西吗？

Garmin这家价值数十亿美元的GPS公司也是由台湾人共同创立的。

马里兰大学校长是这个人，他的家族在上海拥有5块房产，49年就逃走了。

为什么美国人不给俄罗斯人那么多这样的机会（甚至是看起来反共的机会）？也许是因为俄罗斯人被认为更具威胁性？

Reality eventually overcomes affirmative action, diversity and leftist PC.

“You’re firing me because I’m Black!? No, we hired you because you’re black. We’re firing you because you’re useless!”

希望我的评论207和208能得到回复。

1950世纪XNUMX年代，许多最优秀的中国人被派往苏联学习或工作

There are still very many Chinese students studying in Russia and, precisely, in STEM field. I don’t have the actual number (I don’t think its takes that much effort to find out) but the link I gave above contains many Chinese students and their testimonials. I expect this number to grow, but that is a separate issue.

这位狂热反共、反中华人民共和国（也反俄罗斯）的美国犹太人（现在是美国顶尖学校的博士生，主修理论性很强的学科）对我说，他认为在苏联研制出第一颗核武器之前不用核武器攻击苏联是一件可怕的事情错误。您对此有何看法？

This is a very popular POV among significant strata of American policy-makers and political “scientists”, not all but many. Same goes for “destroying” Russia in the wake of the Soviet collapse. My opinion on that is extremely simple–US “elites”, even those who are supposedly Russia “scholars” are extremely badly educated and most of them are afflicted with dangerous decease of American “exceptionalism”, which is an obverse form of complex of inferiority. Russia Studies field in the West in general, and US in particular is a pseudo-academic wasteland.

你甚至声称在朝鲜战争期间，苏联飞行员驾驶的MIG-15击败了美国飞行员。但蒋介石/美国物理学教授的这位远亲声称，美国空军退伍军人的叙述是基于其他情况的。他说，因为美国的审查力度不如苏联，所以这可能是真的，

I don’t claim anything–I cite sources, but this “distant relative” has no idea what is he talking about because even number of reputable Western sources admit that taken in isolation (from N.Korean and Chinese) the score of the Soviet Air Corps under command of Kozhedub in Korea and USAF is roughly 2 to 1 in favor of Soviet AF. Not only MiG-15 and F-86 were roughly matched but Soviet pilots all were veterans of Eastern Front where they fought for four years the cream of Luftwaffe. Very many of them had scores in dozens of German planes. Kozhedub had 62 to his credit.

我记得，你认为美国在与苏联的军备竞赛中失败了。为什么这么说？苏联的军事技术在哪些方面优于美国，哪些方面劣于美国。

I write about it in my books and blog–it is a very large subject for a discussion board post. In short, the US lead in 1970-80s was in some radio-electronic aspects and computing power. This was the main one, the rest was in dynamics (changing constantly) and by 1970s it was clear that Soviet Air Defense systems were by far superior. Nowadays I don’t see any US lead in air force technology, it is not even a contender in Air Defense one and in the end, Russia is generation (maybe two) ahead of the US in missile technology which radically, together with few other military and economic factors, shifted geopolitical balance.

最后，您对中国审查互联网有何看法？甚至像 Quora 和 Twitter 这样的英文网站也被淘汰了。 WordPress 也很慢

It is purely China’s internal affair and I am in no position to judge it, albeit, I am, of course, for free exchange of the ideas. Another matter that political and ideological trash in social media can hardly be called a “free exchange” and there are, certainly, very few ideas there. Don’t worry West is catching up with China fairly fast.

您如何看待美国记录您的所有信息、电子邮件等，以及您所写的内容引发的强烈反对。返回俄罗斯怎么样？在那里你不是默认的外国颠覆特工。你看，我在俄罗斯使用 mail.ru 与俄罗斯人交谈感觉更舒服。

I give full cognizance to this fact so I merely act as any normal person will do. I am a US citizen and the only serious consideration I may give to going (not back–after Soviet collapse I never became Russian citizen) to Russia if I see the United States turning into a complete Orwellian mad house–it is already far advanced on this path and all my previous idealistic thoughts about US Constitution, liberties and rule of law have been dispelled. Other than that, we’ll see.

在美国，你在那里做技术工作，充其量是一名中层管理人员，美国企业不会提拔你或真正接受你作为自己的人，也作为东欧人，尤其是具有浓厚苏联背景的俄罗斯人。他们只接受反苏联的俄罗斯移民，他们不是真正的俄罗斯人，比如永远惹恼中国政府的谢尔盖·布林。公平地说，在美国企业界，在创办公司、致富、成为高管方面，台湾人和非中国人比俄罗斯人做得更好。

It depends, but I have no problems with that since I am in no rush to be promoted–I love what I do and, evidently, I am very good at it. I have the chance to get to high managerial position in the group I work for–I don’t want to, at least for now. I like industry, I don’t like unjustified amount of additional pain in the ass which comes with promotion in my case. I had enough of this in my life.

为什么美国人不给俄罗斯人那么多这样的机会（甚至是看起来反共的机会）？也许是因为俄罗斯人被认为更具威胁性？

Again, as I said, I don’t see it this way but, it is just me. I know my efforts are NOT in demand in the US think-tankdom, that is for sure;)))

我想问一下，根据您所了解的情况，作为在美国生活了 20 多年的美国公民，您在俄罗斯会受到怎样的待遇。你能找到什么样的工作？您是否认为人们可能会因为您的美国背景而在工作场所给您带来困难，质疑您的忠诚度等？

我的猜测是，除非你放弃美国公民身份，否则几乎可以肯定你将无法在俄罗斯国防部门工作。

You’re welcome to reply to me at gmachine1729 at Foxmail.com if you don’t feel comfortable answering here.

我确实知道，在美国的华人，包括50后60后出生的第一代移民，与本土华人有很大不同。许多（如果不是大多数）中国人不再认为他们是中国人，特别是如果他们入籍美国和/或在那里抚养孩子。他们现在与中国脱节了，夏天来访不足以让他们恢复联系，你必须全职工作才能与这个快速变化的社会保持联系。所以中国人很难认真对待他们，尤其是当他们傲慢的时候。

我想问一下，根据您所了解的情况，作为在美国生活了 20 多年的美国公民，您在俄罗斯会受到怎样的待遇。你能找到什么样的工作？

任何不需要国家秘密（和机密信息）许可的工作。

您是否认为人们可能会因为您的美国背景而在工作场所给您带来困难，质疑您的忠诚度等？

There are scores of foreigners working in Russia at Russian industries–they have no problems in general.

我确实知道在美国的华人

俄罗斯不是中国。

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Despite your “frivolous” description of the Humanities, Hague gets it right: only the Humanities provide EDUCATION, properly so called (as Plato and Aquinas would have agreed); the rest provide TRAINING, a kind of high-IQ barber college ”

Are you assuming that humanities students are studying Plato and thinking deeply about the republic? Seriously?

Plato is too White and male for the humanities.

Go crack open an English 101 book and have a look at the White guilt garbage that is peddled through the reading selections.

I have far more respect for someone that goes to barber school instead of the humanities. In fact I would bet that the barber school graduate is better at logical thinking. The social sciences and humanities actively discourage critical thinking. That is all part of post-modernism / frankfurt school non-sense.

In fact I would bet a million dollars that the the typical barber school graduate would beat the humanities student at a basic logic test. Strong logical thinkers are driven away from the humanities courses at the freshmen level. Most of the profs are liberal and aren’t very good at hiding their bias against White male students, and even more so if said students show strong logical thinking skills.

@justvisiting.

The concept of social science has a deep underlying fallacy.

The only way to study any of this stuff “scientifically” would be with Monte Carlo simulations–try a social policy from _identical_ initial conditions, and run the model millions of times to see what happens.

That is impossible of course.

Human beings are just not understood–period.

This is too post-modern and an avoidance of actually studying what we can. You are basically saying we can’t study people because we can’t have perfect conditions.

Well the problem with this belief is that some social science predictions have been more useful than others. We can look back and see that some predictions were more useful to public policy than others. I would argue that most of the useful predictions did not come from the social sciences since the 1960s.

So it’s not simply a situation where every explanation has equal value. There have been some very politically incorrect and predictions made by a few outsiders that have been more accurate than the opinions of 1000s of Anthro and Sociology professors. Some of those opinions could have saved hundreds of billions along with countless lives.

还有几个问题。

1）你一直强调潜艇。我查了一下，发现数量非常多。最多的国家其实是朝鲜，有78个，当然质量低很多。美国和中国都有大约70艘。我记得你一直说中国的核潜艇落后了好几代，因此，中国不会赢得南海的海军军备竞赛。你能详细说明一下吗？特别是，你如何自信地知道这一切？因为这些东西相当秘密，而且你也只是一个仍在从事全职工作的人，我猜你已经离开俄罗斯 20 多年，拥有美国公民身份，你怎么能如此确定你对所有这些东西的判断取决于标记？

2）您还评论说中国的歼20不是真正的国产飞机，或者不是很好。你怎么确定这一点？我认为它现在也可以运行（因为我相信是在一两年前），或者至少网上公开的消息来源是这么说的？无论如何，我会对网上有关这些东西的信息持怀疑态度，包括部署了多少。说到这里，您认为网上对各国核库存的估算有多准确？

3）我读到美英最终通过其潜艇舰队封锁了日本的补给，这艘潜艇以极高的速度摧毁了日本商船。荷属东印度群岛的石油对日本来说并没有多大用处。这让我想知道太平洋上有多少艘美国潜艇，以及有哪些海军基地支持它们。我知道关岛有一个，但是关岛可以被摧毁吧？美国也可以使用新加坡的海军基地，也可能使用菲律宾的海军基地？更不用说日本、韩国了？还有建造核潜艇需要多长时间。每单位至少要花费十亿美元，难怪它们的数量不多。

4) 您对中国的北斗（中国版的GPS/GLONASS）有何看法？我最近在中国媒体上看到了一些。他们说它对于反舰导弹的终端制导很有用，或者可能还有其他一些卫星用于此目的。

5）你还提到中国直到2003年才进入太空。我认为他们在1970年代就尝试过（比如训练了一些宇航员），但据我所知，他们真正完成的只是将一颗卫星送入太空并将其带回地球。您认为中国在 90 年代从俄罗斯购买了大部分技术吗？我看到90年代有几个中国宇航员在尤里加加林中心接受训练？我确实问过太空计划秘密部门的一个人与俄罗斯太空计划有多少合作，他基本上没有。我确实提到过，这不是 2008 年穿着俄罗斯宇航服进行的太空行走吗？他说是的，他们从俄罗斯购买的，或者类似的东西。

有趣的是，你似乎对中国评价不高。我还相信，在军事技术方面，它与俄罗斯还有很大差距。一些在中国国防工业工作的人在这方面对俄罗斯给予了很高的评价，他们在资金较少的情况下取得了更大的成就，很大程度上是因为他们的基础更强大。

PS：从你的背景和你写的内容来看，你看起来相当有权威，我相信你所说的大部分内容。但公平地说，一个人只能确定地知道这么多，尤其是在像我们正在谈论的这样秘密的事情上，人们通常只能猜测。即使所有信息都是公开的，一个人也只能消化其中的一小部分。此外，拥有美国公民身份并在 20 年内离开俄罗斯也是值得怀疑的。我预计那些仍在俄罗斯研究俄罗斯武器的人太忙了，无法像您一样写那么多文章。国防工业领域的中国人未经明确许可不得出境。

这是我必须回答的大量问题，其中许多问题都在我的书籍和博客中得到了解答。但是重新。这：

即使所有信息都是公开的，一个人也只能消化其中的一小部分。

That is why I concentrate primarily on the issues which require a systemic knowledge in a fairly narrow field. You will not find me offering my opinions on genetics, gynecology or quantum mechanics. I know my significant limitations and act within them. When I assume things–I usually state it clearly.

根据此：

我记得你一直说中国的核潜艇落后了几代人，因此中国不会赢得南海的海军军备竞赛。你能详细说明一下吗？特别是，你如何自信地知道这一切？因为这些东西相当秘密，而且你也只是一个仍在从事全职工作的人，我猜你已经离开俄罗斯 20 多年，拥有美国公民身份，你怎么能如此确定你对所有这些东西的判断取决于标记？

I’ll give you a hint: compare Chinese COMAC-919 and Russian MC-21 programs. You will find a lot (not all) answers in that. Just to orient you more on that issue–any modern submarine, especially nuclear sub is much more complex than even most advanced commercial aircraft.