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所谓的武汉实验室泄漏及其科学怀疑论者

在去年的大部分时间里,关于 Covid 起源的理论,无论是阴谋还是其他,都从公开辩论中消失了,被全国范围内的“黑人的命也是命”抗议活动和激烈的总统竞选的最后阶段搁置一旁。

12,000 月初,著名的自由主义作家和公共知识分子 Nicholson Baker 试图用 XNUMX 字的封面故事重振这个问题。 纽约 杂志,却看到他的 Covid 实验室泄漏理论在两天后被一群愤怒的特朗普主义者袭击时被淹没并被遗忘。

  • 实验室泄漏假说
    几十年来,科学家一直在热销病毒,希望能够预防而不是引起大流行。 但是,如果……怎么办?
    尼科尔森·贝克• 纽约杂志 •4年2021月12,000日•XNUMX个单词

但随后在 2 月 XNUMX 日,一场革命发生在前 “纽约时报” 科学记者和编辑 Nicholas Wade 发表了一篇关于 中等. 他对 11,000 字的仔细分析收集了强有力的证据,证明该病毒是人类实验室的人造产品,这表明它很可能是从中国最先进的病毒研究机构武汉病毒研究所泄露出来的。 众所周知,该实验室一直在研究这些类型的冠状病毒,并且位于最初爆发的武汉,引起了各种明显的怀疑。

  • Covid的起源
    人或自然界是否在武汉打开了潘多拉魔盒?
    尼古拉斯·韦德• 原子科学家通讯 •5年2021月11,000日•XNUMX个单词

闸门很快就打开了,在接下来的几周里,关于这个主题的文章比过去 XNUMX 个月的总和还要多。 仅举一个例子,小唐纳德 G.麦克尼尔 (Donald G. McNeil, Jr.),这位拥有 XNUMX 年 他率先报道了他的论文 Covid 报道,发表了一篇引人注目的文章 MEA过失 并接受了实验室泄漏假设,承认他和其他人 计时员 此前,他认为这个想法是“极右翼”的疯狂,与“披萨门、瘟疫、功夫流感、Q-Anon、停止偷窃和 6 月 XNUMX 日国会入侵”密切相关。

麦克尼尔已经从 去年 XNUMX 月发生了一场无关的争议之后,但他以前的报纸的其他人也经历了类似的改变。 一年多来,编辑们一直对唐纳德特朗普及其盟友大力宣传的实验室泄漏理论持严厉批评态度,但随着特朗普现在安全离开,他们的观点发生了变化。

5,500 月下旬,他们的一位意见专栏作家 Zeynep Tufekci 发表了一篇 XNUMX 字的文章,严厉批评中国,认为全球流行病很可能是中国实验室泄漏的结果。 Tufekci 教授的研究领域是社会学而不是生物科学,她的专长在于社交媒体,但她长篇文章的出现无疑反映了她的顶级编辑观点的巨大转变。

同月月初出现了对这种新兴的美国媒体共识的更长的阐述。 “名利场”. 这篇 12,000 字的文章强烈支持实验室泄漏理论,并重点关注特朗普政府国家安全机构内部有关该问题的官僚内讧。 根据数月的调查报告和大量采访,这篇文章似乎严重依赖匿名的特朗普情报来源,同时通常以表面价值看待我们政府的主张。

  • 实验室泄漏理论:在揭开 COVID-19 起源的斗争中
    整个 2020 年,新型冠状病毒从实验室泄漏的想法都是禁止的。 那些敢于推动透明度的人说,有毒的政治和隐藏的议程让我们一无所知。
    凯瑟琳·埃班 • “名利场” •3年2021月12,000日•XNUMX个单词

此外,尽管该建议以防御性、暗示性的方式提出,但这篇长文也引发了严重怀疑 Covid 是作为中国生物武器开发的,该词在文本中出现了 XNUMX 次。 世界各地已有数百万人死亡,其中包括数十万美国人,因此有些人可能会感到不安的是,这种煽动性的指控出现在美国最负盛名的大众利益杂志之一上,尤其是考虑到几乎完全缺乏任何支持证据。 这篇文章展示了精英媒体情绪的急剧转变,以前仅限于极端反华意识形态边缘的理论现在占据了美国新闻业的中心。

这种情况产生了令人不安的回响,即二十年前,这些主流媒体机构如何在助长萨达姆大规模杀伤性武器的骗局和促进我们灾难性的伊拉克战争方面发挥了类似的作用。 的确,我发现那篇文章中引用的特朗普政府 Covid 专家之一和其他人是大卫·费思(David Feith),这颇具讽刺意味,他的父亲道格拉斯·费思(Douglas Feith)是参与臭名昭著的布什政府情报欺诈的主要新保守主义者之一。 此外,头版的主要作者 “华尔街日报” 故事 在 2020 月下旬帮助重振实验室泄漏理论的是迈克尔·R·戈登,他之前曾与朱迪思·米勒分享过大部分将我们推入战争的欺诈性伊拉克大规模杀伤性武器故事的署名。 XNUMX 年初,前摩萨德特工丹尼·肖汉姆是最早的人物之一 建议 Covid 是从武汉实验室泄露的中国生物武器,很少有人记得在 2001 年 他错误地指责萨达姆政权 作为炭疽邮件的来源。 似乎老伊拉克大规模杀伤性武器演员的成员正在重新集结以进行复兴。

左倾监督组织公平与准确报告 (FAIR) 发表了一篇 4,500 字的文章,对这一突如其来的支持性实验室泄漏报道进行了有用的综述。 这篇文章通过引用来自 “华盛顿邮报”中, 纽约客, 纽约 杂志美国广播公司新闻,并强烈反对它,继续争论病毒的自然起源。

不幸的是,尽管这篇文章作为媒体链接的概要非常有用,但提供的分析远没有说服力。 作者 Joshua Cho 被描述为应届大学毕业生和前任 公平 实习生,大概是他 20 岁出头,所以我几乎没有惊讶地注意到他的演讲中有很多事实和逻辑错误。 最令人震惊的是,他用一半的文章来攻击韦德,他无知而侮辱地谴责韦德是臭名昭著的“伪科学”的推动者,而且他似乎对托马斯·弗兰克和乔纳森·库克等著名左翼自由派记者采纳了韦德的观点感到非常沮丧。这么认真。 也许这个自以为是的前实习生应该意识到他们可能知道一些他不知道的事情,并且可能会认为韦德已经成为了科学编辑 “纽约时报” 在 Cho 出生前将近十年。

然而,其他拥有更高可信度和科学专业知识的人最近也以更有力的理由挑战了实验室泄漏假说。 Cho的文章出现的前一天, 彭博 曾对丹妮尔·安德森进行了长时间的采访,丹妮尔·安德森是一位经验丰富的澳大利亚病毒学家,她是在此期间唯一在武汉实验室工作的西方人。 根据她的说法,西方媒体对实验室及其运作的描述与她在那里看到的完全不符,病毒泄漏的可能性似乎为零。

根据美国政府电报中的几句话,我们的媒体 曾多次指控 武汉实验室的操作标准很差,但安德森自己的经历完全不同,安全协议令人印象深刻,她后来建议在她自己的研究机构采用。 几个月来,特朗普政府的前成员 一直在宣传 一些来源可疑的“第三方”情报声称三名实验室工作人员在 2019 年 XNUMX 月病重,出现类似 Covid 的症状,但安德森博士无法回忆起此类病例,并相信她会听说过这些病例。 她与中国同事的关系通常非常友好和开放,经常来回分享科学八卦。 在这种情况下,她确信如果发生疑似实验室泄漏,她会听说的,但从未有过任何此类事件的迹象。

此外,创建像 Covid 这样的危险病毒需要实验室管理员的多层官方授权,她怀疑是否可以在没有消息的情况下做出如此重要的决定。 虽然她承认理论上有可能是一些流氓的中国实验室研究人员秘密进行了这样的项目并对该病毒进行了生物工程改造,然后意外感染了自己或他人,但她认为这种可能性“非常渺茫”。

因此,根据她在武汉实验室的个人经历,她认为 Covid 病毒不太可能是在那里发展起来的,同样不可能发生任何实验室泄漏。 由于这些原因,她仍然倾向于病毒爆发的天然来源。

在 XNUMX 月初对德国病毒学家克里斯蒂安·德罗斯滕(Christian Drosten)的采访中也得出了类似的结论,后者被评为 SARS 和 Covid 方面的世界领先专家之一。 该讨论发表在一份小型德语出版物上,受到的关注很少,但谷歌翻译的魔力使全世界的观众都能获得这一重要材料:

尽管德罗斯滕博士完全接受了病毒的自然起源,推测未发现的中间宿主可能在中国庞大的毛皮养殖业的某个地方发现,但他也对生物工程病毒或实验室泄漏的可能性发表了自己的看法。 特别是,他提出了病毒是作为生物武器制造和释放的想法,但故意回避讨论它:

实际上有两个实验室论文。 有人故意构建了这种病毒,这将是恶意的。 另一个是研究事故,尽管有良好的意图和好奇心,但实验还是出了问题。 说实话,恶意的事情:你必须和特工部门谈谈。 作为一名科学家,我无法判断。

他接着说,病毒的结构使得它不太可能是一个无辜的科学研究项目的结果,或者它来自武汉实验室并被意外释放:

这种研究事故的想法对我来说是极不可能的,因为它太麻烦了。 某地某特工实验室恶意使用的想法:如果有的话,这样的东西可能不会来自武汉病毒研究所。 这是一所著名的学术机构。

尽管他们的理由不同,但病毒学家安德森和德罗斯滕的综合证词引起了人们对武汉实验室意外泄漏事件的相当怀疑,这种情况现在越来越代表美国主流媒体的传统智慧。 两位专家都非常怀疑 Covid 可能是无辜科学研究的产物,他们也认为武汉实验室不太可能创造或意外释放它。 因此,尽管他们仍然更喜欢自然病毒理论,但他们似乎将可能的替代方案视为非法或恶意项目,似乎暗示制造和故意释放致命的生物武器。 但在这种情况下,中国最大的城市之一和主要交通枢纽武汉的最初爆发显然倾向于为该国开脱,同时在逻辑上将责任归咎于完全不同的方向。

值得注意的是,我们拥有世界领先的 Covid 科学权威之一,小心翼翼地提出它是一种非中国生物武器的可能性,并在一份小发行量的德语出版物中这样做。 然而,这种非常简短和粗略的猜测似乎是我在过去一年或更长时间阅读的关于 Covid 可能起源的 100,000 字或更多字的主流文章中唯一一次遇到这个明显的想法。 当然,许多其他记者和科学家肯定已经考虑过这种可能性,但几乎没有人允许这种想法出现在印刷品中。 我们如何才能最好地理解这种完全的知识禁运?

我认为部分解释可以在 去年年底的一次有趣的交流 在著名自由派记者马特·泰比和克里斯·赫奇斯(以前是 滚石“纽约时报” 分别。 正如他们所描述的,在职记者非常依赖社交媒体,尤其是当他们与主要出版物没有直接关联时。 这些人认识到,一些错误选择的词可能会引发蜂拥而至的 Twitter 私刑暴徒,可能会导致去平台化的致命命运。 所以作家和他们的雇主必须进行大量的自我审查,害怕粗心大意的判决带来的灾难性后果。

鉴于这一现实,一年多来完全主导主流媒体的自然病毒宣传泡沫突然的、惊人的崩溃变得不那么令人惊讶了。 想必不少人一直都有疑惑,但又怕被清洗,一直保持缄默。 然而,一旦韦德的文章出现并开始在社交媒体上引起一些积极的讨论,他们逐渐失去了恐惧并加入了进来,很快证明这些观点比任何人意识到的要广泛得多。

生物武器的合理否认及其在经济战中的有效性

对于 Covid 是一种非中国生物武器的可能性,可能存在也可能不存在类似的隐藏支持,但如果是这样,这些支持仍然非常隐蔽。

在过去的一年里,我发表了一系列文章,明确说明 Covid 病毒是在对中国(和伊朗)的蓄意生物战攻击中释放出来的。 总而言之,这些作品已被观看了大约 250,000 次。 然而,除了一些罕见的例外,这种材料被认为放射性太强,无法在替代媒体的任何地方得到承认,更不用说主流媒体了。 以下是该系列最重要的元素:

这些文章使我们的出版物成为为数不多的对此类有争议的想法开放的场所之一。 因此,我们最近收到并发表了一位具有政治和安全问题背景的欧洲名誉教授的投稿,他的笔名是“Andreas Canetti”。 虽然有些笨拙和粗糙,但他的文本有 26,000 字和 280 多个脚注,并提供了大量的信息和参考资料,其中大部分是分析和解释生物战假说的。 虽然我不一定赞同其中的一些论点,但这篇文章是有关该主题许多方面的非常有用的信息来源。

  • 会飞的穿山甲
    安德烈亚斯·卡内蒂 • Unz评论 •18年2021月26,000日•XNUMX个单词

漫长的 “名利场” 文章曾透露,特朗普政府的一些国家安全官员强烈反对挑战自然病毒理论,担心谈论人工起源会“打开一罐蠕虫”,这句话意义重大,甚至被用作其中之一。主要章节标题。 但是,在我们吸收了卡内蒂文章中揭示的一些重要材料后,这些担忧的可能性质就会得到更好的理解。

例如,卡内蒂引用了一位著名军事专家关于生物战在削弱国际对手经济方面的特殊效力的长篇文章,但这样做的方式保留了任何攻击甚至发生过的合理否认:

[T]二十一世纪将是一个经济战争的世纪……[经济竞争]的出现……提出了一种新型战争形式的可能性。 这包括针对经济目标开发和使用生物战 (BW)。 使用 BW 攻击牲畜、农作物或生态系统为对手提供了发动一种潜在的微妙但具有破坏性的战争形式的手段,这种战争形式将影响社会的政治、社会和经济部门,并可能影响国家生存本身……[细菌]和病毒] 使人类、动物或植物丧失能力或杀死它们在发动经济战中具有令人不安的价值……[使用 BW 可能对该国的经济或社会造成严重打击,并可能导致一些政治影响。 历史记录了饥荒和流行病等自然灾害造成的混乱和不稳定。 以这种方式使用 BW 可以应用于发动具有战略结果的低强度战争。

[生物武器] 是唯一一种在整个冲突范围内都有用的大规模杀伤性武器。 在地方性或自然疾病的掩护下使用生物武器为攻击者提供了合理否认的可能性。 在这种情况下,[生物武器] 提供了比核武器更大的使用可能性……[生物武器] 可以以自然事件为幌子在非战斗环境中使用,在战争以外的行动中使用,或者可以在针对所有生物的公开战斗场景中使用系统——人、动物或植物。 自然发生的疾病和事件可能会拒绝故意传播 BW 毒剂……生物战造成重大经济损失和随后的政治不稳定的可能性超过任何其他已知武器。

这些字 由 Robert P. Kadlec 于 1998 年编写,他后来成为乔治·W·布什政府的顶级生物战顾问,然后最近在 2017 年作为特朗普的助理国务卿重返政府。 他令人信服的分析使我想起了我在 我 2020 年 XNUMX 月的原始文章:

[D]前两年,中国经济已经遭受了其他神秘的新疾病的严重打击,尽管这些疾病的目标是农场动物而不是人。 2018 年,一种新的禽流感病毒席卷全国,消灭了中国的大部分家禽业,而 2019 年,猪流感病毒的流行摧毁了中国的养猪场,摧毁了全国 40% 的国内主要肉类来源,并普遍声称后一种疾病是通过神秘的小型无人机传播的……因此,中国连续三年受到奇怪的新型病毒性疾病的严重影响,尽管只有最近一次对人类致命。 这个证据只是间接的,但这种模式似乎非常可疑。

此外,Covid 本身的特定功能似乎也属于同一类别。 去年年初, 我们发表了 一位在美国生物防御领域工作了 1 年的退休老兵的观点,他专注于该病毒不寻常的流行病学特征,这种病毒具有极强的传染性,但死亡率仅为 XNUMX% 或更低。 正如我 总结他的分析:

他提出的一个重要观点是,高致死率在生物武器中通常会适得其反,因为使许多人衰弱或住院使他们丧生的经济损失要比仅仅造成同等死亡人数的生物制剂要多得多。 用他的话说:“高传染性,低致死性疾病非常适合破坏经济”,这表明冠状病毒的表观特征在这方面已接近最佳。

几十年来,美国一直保持着世界上最广泛的生物战计划, 吸收了以前苏联的大部分能力 苏联解体后。 我们现在在 25 个国家/地区运营着一个全球生物实验室网络,其中许多国家与中国或俄罗斯接壤。

美国在俄罗斯和中国周边 25 个国家以及非洲的生物实验室(来自 Dilyana Gaytandzhieva)
美国在俄罗斯和中国周边 25 个国家以及非洲的生物实验室(来自 Dilyana Gaytandzhieva)

调查记者惠特尼·韦伯 (Whitney Webb) 在 2020 年 XNUMX 月的一篇文章中总结了大量此类信息,我们在她当时的常规媒体拒绝发布后发表了这篇文章:

最后,网站 迪利亚娜·盖坦芝耶娃(Dilyana Gaytandzhieva),前保加利亚记者,包含一篇长文章,提供了有关美国生物战努力的丰富链接和信息,对于那些有兴趣进一步调查这一重要主题的人来说,这是一个非常有用的资源:

从执政初期开始,特朗普的主要官员就将中国视为美国最强大的地缘政治对手,并精心策划了对抗政策。 然后从 2019 年 XNUMX 月到 XNUMX 月,Kadlec 的部门跑了 “猩红传染病”模拟演练,涉及一种危险的呼吸道病毒疾病在中国的假设爆发,最终传播到美国,参与者专注于在该国控制它的必要措施。 作为美国最重要的生物战专家之一,卡德莱克早在 1990 年代末就强调了生物武器的独特有效性,我们必须赞扬他在 2019 年组织了一次与实际情况非常相似的重大病毒流行演习的相当大的先见之明。几个月后才开始进入现实世界。

由于特朗普的主要官员非常迷恋生物战,对中国充满敌意,并在 2019 年对该国神秘病毒爆发的后果进行大规模模拟,完全无视这种极其鲁莽的计划可能是完全不合理的,这似乎是完全不合理的。私下讨论并最终实施,尽管可能没有总统授权。

被遗忘已久的伊朗早期爆发

中国是我们最强大的地缘政治对手,当它在我们国际紧张局势最激烈的时候突然被一场神秘的病毒瘟疫袭击时,我们胆怯的媒体完全忽视了其影响。 但他们也完全忽略了一个更奇怪的巧合,就像我一样 在我 2020 年 XNUMX 月的原始文章中指出:

随着冠状病毒逐渐开始蔓延到中国境外,另一件事情发生了,这大大增加了我的怀疑。 这些早期病例中的大多数都发生在与中国接壤的东亚国家中,正如人们所预料的那样。 但到二月底 伊朗已成为全球疫情的第二个震中. 更令人惊讶的是, 它的政治精英 受到的打击尤其严重,与 整个伊朗议会的整整10%即将感染 和至少 十几个官员和政治家 死于疾病,包括一些 相当高级. 事实上,推特上的新保守派活动人士开始兴高采烈地指出,他们憎恨的伊朗敌人现在像苍蝇一样坠落。

让我们考虑这些事实的含义。 在全世界范围内,唯一遭受重大人员伤亡的政治精英是伊朗的政治精英,他们很早就去世了,甚至在中国以外的世界上几乎任何地方都没有爆发大爆发之前就已经死亡。 因此,我们在2月XNUMX日让美国暗杀了伊朗的最高军事指挥官,然后在几周后,伊朗统治精英分子的大部分被一种神秘而致命的新病毒感染,其中许多人很快因此丧命。 任何理性的人都可能将这仅仅是巧合吗?

伊朗最初的爆发也奇怪地集中在圣城库姆,该国政治和宗教精英领袖的所在地,而不是更大的大都市德黑兰。 无论新冠病毒是作为一种天然病毒出现在武汉还是由于实验室意外泄漏而被释放,武汉距离库姆约 5,500 公里,因此后者似乎不太可能是病毒下一次主要出现的最有可能的地点。

到 XNUMX 月,意大利北部和不久之后的西班牙也发生了新的主要 Covid 疫情,但情况大不相同。 根据维基百科, 约300,000万中国人 在那个意大利地区生活和工作,而另一个 150,000万华人居住在西班牙,而且这些人中的许多人肯定是从一年一度的中国农历新年旅行中回来的,也许他们把病毒带了回来。 相比之下,伊朗的中国总人口是世界上最少的之一, 编号仅 5,000-9,000,并且绝大多数集中在德黑兰而不是库姆。

中国在世界各地拥有非常广泛的贸易和商业联系,也许 一百万中国人在非洲数百万中国移民 在美国和加拿大,其中许多人与他们的祖国保持着密切的个人联系。 因此,如果一个国际流行病学专家小组被告知中国武汉出现新流行病的假设病例,并被要求预测该疾病将传播到的下一个城市,我怀疑伊朗的库姆会接近最低点。他们的名单。 但在我们 XNUMX 月初暗杀卡西姆·索莱米尼将军和伊朗对我们中东基地的报复性巡航导弹袭击之后,任何军事战略家小组肯定都会将伊朗的领导地位列为美国目标的绝对最高点。

长期以来,美国与其亲密的以色列盟友在伊朗保持着有效的特工和特工网络,他们成功地进行了多次重大破坏行动和高层暗杀行动。 与对戒备森严的目标进行如此艰难的袭击相比,在一些政治精英聚集地中悄悄释放一种看不见、无法追踪但具有高度传染性的病毒本来是一项极其容易的操作,特别是因为结果只会在几周后才显现出来,因为受害者生病了,疾病开始蔓延。

间接证据表明美国(或其以色列伙伴)在库姆针对伊朗的领导阶层部署了新冠病毒,这似乎非常有力,我感到令人困惑的是,伊朗人自己显然没有得出同样的结论并公开谴责所发生的事情。 他们可能没有任何证据,但这样的生物战袭击将是对重要国际公约的前所未有的违反,而且这种可信的指控肯定会成为全球头条新闻并引起相当多的同情。 但是几个月前,我非常惊讶地发现伊朗人确实做到了这一点。

2021 年 XNUMX 月,隶属于建制派大西洋理事会的社交媒体研究小组发布了 17,000字庞大的报告,共54页 记录和谴责有关 Covid 流行病的各种据称是虚假或未经证实的“阴谋论”,以及 投入了好几页 展示他们认为广泛存在的伊朗“谎言”,但我从完全不同的角度看待它们。 到 2020 年 XNUMX 月上旬, 伊朗将军 监督他的国家的生物战防御已经开始 暗示Covid是西方的生物攻击 反对他的国家和中国,几天后半官方的伊朗通讯社 FARS 伊朗最高革命卫队军事指挥官宣称:

今天,该国正在进行一场生物战。 我们将战胜这种病毒,它可能是美国生物[攻击]的产物,它首先在中国传播,然后传播到世界其他地方……美国应该知道,如果这样做了,它将返回给自己。

不久之后,伊朗 最高领袖阿里哈梅内伊 采取了同样的公开立场,而民粹主义前总统艾哈迈迪内贾德几个月来在推特上特别直言不讳,甚至直接向联合国秘书长安东尼奥·古特雷斯提出正式指控。 他的众多推文中只有一个就吸引了成千上万的转发和点赞。

伊朗广播和电视及其国际新闻服务反复播放这些故事,并得到了对马来西亚前总理的高级政治助手的支持性采访。 但美国对英语全球媒体的压倒性统治确保了这场重大的国际争议在发生时从未引起我的注意。

美国对互联网基本基础设施的控制进一步促进了阻止这些伊朗指控到达英语世界的封锁。 就在一个月前,伊朗 强调 英国频道 已被 YouTube 删除,在其主要全球频道早些时候被移除之后。 最近,美国政府采取了史无前例的夺取行动。 强调的互联网域,完全消除对该网站的所有访问。

维基百科也受到敌对控制,所以我们应该毫不奇怪,无处不在的全球信息来源 相当难以置信地暗示 一个从中国返回的伊朗商人是库姆爆发的原因。

操纵科学家转移伊朗的指责

尽管近几十年来美国似乎在工业生产、治理能力和军事技术的一些重要方面落后于其他许多国家,但我们宣传机构的效力并未减弱。 当我考虑到我们由新保守主义主导的国家安全媒体综合体如此毫不费力地转移了那些看似可怕的伊朗指控的手段时,一个明显的策略变得清晰起来。 作为 我解释道 在我 2020 年 XNUMX 月的文章中:

使用替代媒体立即宣传冠状病毒爆发是中国生物战实验室泄密的结果的理论,这是一种自然的手段,可以先发制人以后任何类似的指责,从而使美国甚至在中国开始之前就赢得了国际宣传战战斗......我发现互联网的边缘充斥着声称这种疾病是由同一个武汉实验室意外释放的中国生物武器引起的,前特朗普顾问史蒂夫班农和 ZeroHedge,一个受欢迎的右翼阴谋网站,在推进该理论方面发挥着主导作用。 事实上,这些故事在这些意识形态圈子中变得如此普遍,以至于共和党新保守派参议员汤姆·科顿开始在 Twitter 和 福克斯新闻,从而引发 一篇文章纽约时报 这些“边缘阴谋论”。

正如 文章指出,这些早期关于 Covid 可能是泄露的中国生物武器的说法很快就 大量放大 通过面向 Neocon 的国际新闻媒体,例如 华盛顿时报 和亚历克斯琼斯的流行 InfoWars 网络。 由于担心这种爆炸性炸药可能造成的国际后果,好心的科学家们动员起来辩解,即这种病毒是完全自然的,无论他们是否真的相信证据如他们声称的那样有力。 这方面的公开声明出现在 29 月 XNUMX 日 “华盛顿邮报” 文章 几周后 “纽约时报” 文章 揭穿 参议员 Cotton 的指控。

这也可能是最有可能对《宣言》发表的高调声明作出的解释。 柳叶刀“ 19 年 2020 月 27 日,由 XNUMX 名病毒学家和其他著名科学家组成的小组谴责对人造病毒的猜测是站不住脚的“阴谋论”,并在接下来的一个月中同样备受瞩目 自然医学 争论自然的 Covid 起源。 这些在著名期刊上发表的早期声明在一年多的时间里完全影响了媒体的讨论,因此,这种所谓的科学共识确保了伊朗对生物战袭击的任何指控都会自动被视为荒谬可笑的。

我认为这种对事件的重构得到了美国政府采取的非常矛盾的公共立场的支持。 Richard H. Ebright 教授,一位享有盛誉的罗格斯大学分子生物学家和生物安全专家,他最近将自己确立为武汉实验室泄漏理论最广泛引用的科学支持者之一。

一月,尼科尔森贝克 曾引用 Ebright 多年来,他一直关注武汉实验室以及那里正在开展的工作,以创造“具有增强人类传染性”的“嵌合”与 SARS 相关的蝙蝠冠状病毒。 在一封电子邮件中,这位科学家进一步宣称:“在这种情况下,武汉的新型冠状病毒的消息***尖叫***实验室发布。”

不久之后,埃布赖特成为了该协议的主要签署人之一。 三月公开信 严厉批评世卫组织报告并呼吁重新对武汉实验室进行国际调查,并用长篇大论概述了他的观点 独立科学新闻 访问. 根据 “名利场” 文章,当最早的 Covid 爆发报告出现时,他立即怀疑武汉实验室泄漏了一种人造病毒,并在“纳秒或皮秒”内出现。 埃布赖特的声明也构成了韦德的核心内容 开创性文章:

很明显,武汉病毒研究所正在系统地构建新型嵌合冠状病毒,并正在评估它们感染人类细胞和表达人类 ACE2 的小鼠的能力。 同样清楚的是,根据选择用于分析的恒定基因组背景,这项工作可能产生了 SARS-CoV-2 或 SARS-CoV-2 的近端祖细胞……很明显,部分或全部工作正在进行中使用生物安全标准……这会对实验室工作人员造成不可接受的高感染风险。 很明显,这项工作不应该得到资助,也不应该进行。

然而奇怪的是,在疫情爆发的最初几个月,埃布赖特似乎采取了完全相反的公开立场。 在他 29 年 2020 月 XNUMX 日接受采访时 “华盛顿邮报”, 他已经宣布:“根据病毒基因组和特性,没有任何迹象表明它是一种工程病毒。” 并且根据一个 岗位 几周后的故事, 他还补充说 “可以坚决排除这是故意释放的生化武器的可能性。”

埃布赖特的全面声明旨在反驳广泛的指控,即 Covid 是 中文 意外泄露的生物武器,但很快证明它们对我们自己的政府资助非常有帮助 RFE / RL,这 谴责 伊朗的生物战指控是“毫无根据的主张”,以“没有证据”为支持,并引用了 Ebright 的全面断言作为有效的反驳。 病毒是自然形成的明显的科学共识确保了伊朗的任何进一步指控都被国际媒体认为完全不合理而被立即拒绝,迫使德黑兰很快放弃了适得其反的努力。

无论我对 Ebright 动机的分析是否正确,不可否认的现实是,支持 Covid 是自然的早期科学声音中最响亮的声音已经成为争论它来自实验室的最响亮的声音,他现在声称这一信念从最开始。 媒体中似乎没有人评论或什至没有注意到这种激进的逆转。

我不能说这种政治/媒体策略是否真的是计划好的,但事实证明它非常有效,并且早期对中国发布Covid的猛烈攻击取得了双重结果。 这些指控成功地在美国和世界公众中妖魔化了这个国家,因此根据 XNUMX 月底的一项民意调查, 杰出的美国人占45% 认为致命病毒“可能”或“肯定”起源于中国实验室,74% 的共和党人持这种观点。 但这些指控也激起了信誉良好的科学权威的防御性反应,他们倾向于将可疑的自然病毒理论作为他们最好的防御,事实证明,这对挫败伊朗的指控非常有用。 此外,由此产生的自然病毒共识仍然仅限于主流媒体,这是一种受到民粹主义保守派广泛不信任的信息来源,他们中的大多数人可能仍然顽固地相信新冠病毒确实来自武汉实验室,很可能是中国的生物武器。

到 2021 年初,伊朗早期爆发的极其可疑的方面早已被遗忘,伊朗的生物战指控也被放弃,因此让新冠病毒是实验室人造产品的理论复活几乎没有成本。 这为沿着这些路线达成新的媒体共识扫清了道路。

试图伪装一支吸烟枪

正如伊朗最高领导人当时公开宣布的那样,库姆很早就爆发的新冠肺炎疫情极其可疑,这将矛头指向了一个明显的方向。 但与武汉本身有关的证据更令人信服,新冠病毒首次出现的可能时间线构成了这个故事的关键因素。

整个 2020 年,来自美国的调查记者团队 “纽约时报”中, “华尔街日报”,并 美联社有时在泄露的中国文件的帮助下,已经确定中国中央政府直到 XNUMX 月底才意识到病毒的流行,然后立即将信息提供给世界卫生组织和其他国际机构。 同年一个 分析得很透彻 作者:Philippe Lemoine Quillette 还强烈辩称,武汉当地官员是在几天前才发现病毒爆发的。

武汉零号病人的确切日期更难确定,但大概可以粗略估计。 多年的审查和意识形态策划严重削弱了谷歌作为有争议话题的客观搜索引擎的效用,但它作为既定标准叙述的指南仍然是无价的。 如果我们用谷歌搜索“武汉首例新冠肺炎病例”这样的词,最高的结果是发表在《武汉肺炎》上的学术论文的官方摘要。 科学 18 年 2021 月 XNUMX 日,加州大学圣地亚哥分校医学院的一组研究人员发表了论文,第一作者是 Jonathan Pekar 博士。

研究人员根据病毒的特征,并使用标准分子钟技术进行了一系列模拟,得出结论,湖北省的爆发可能不早于 2019 年 17 月中旬,而地区性报纸报道表明,Covid 已经在2019 年 1 月 2019 日。这使我们能够有效地将零号患者出现在 XNUMX 月中旬和 XNUMX 月中旬之间进行划分,而 XNUMX 月初是最有可能的日期。 根据该论文的估计,到 XNUMX 月中旬,感染者可能不超过 XNUMX 人,到 XNUMX 年 XNUMX 月 XNUMX 日只有 XNUMX 人,但显然所有这些日期和总数都只是近似值。 去年春天,沿着这些路线的粗略时间表已经被广泛接受,但一项严谨的学术研究现在已将其置于更加稳固的基础上。

然而,当我们将某些其他事实与这些看似可靠的科学结论结合起来时,其含义是爆炸性的,正如我所言 反复强调 一年多:

但是由于后来我们自己的政府无所作为的可怕后果是显而易见的,我们情报机构中的人员试图证明他们不是在转瞬即逝的人。 本月初, an 美国广播公司新闻 故事 引用四个不同的政府消息来源透露,早在 XNUMX 月下旬,我们国防情报局下属的一个特殊医学情报部门就发布了一份报告,警告称中国武汉地区正在发生一场失控的疾病流行,并广泛传播。将该文件分发给我们政府的高层,警告应采取措施保护驻扎在亚洲的美军。 故事播出后,五角大楼发言人正式否认了 XNUMX 月报告的存在,而其他各级政府和情报官员拒绝发表评论。 但几天后, 以色列电视台提到 在XNUMX月,美国情报机构确实与北约和以色列盟友分享了有关武汉疾病暴发的报告,因此似乎独立地确认了原始报告的完整准确性。 美国广播公司新闻 故事及其政府的一些消息来源。

因此,国防情报局的人员似乎比中国政府本身的官员早一个多月就意识到武汉发生了致命的病毒性暴发。 除非我们的情报机构率先采用预知技术,否则我认为发生这种情况的原因可能与纵火犯最早了解未来火灾的原因相同。

根据这些多方来源的主流媒体报道,到“11 月的第二周”,我们的国防情报局已经在准备一份秘密报告,警告武汉正在发生“灾难性”疾病爆发。 然而,在那个时候,在这个拥有 XNUMX 万人口的城市中,感染的人可能不超过几十人,其中很少有人出现任何严重的症状。 影响是比较明显的。

创建 石板 编辑迈克尔·金斯利 (Michael Kinsley) 曾有一句著名的讽刺说,失态是指政治家无意中说出了一些被禁止的真相,并且未能认识到秘密情报局报告日期的明显影响,四位政府消息人士透露其存在,而以色列消息人士则独立证实披露已制造了一个巨大的政治炸弹,只有我们胆怯的媒体“无恶不作”的行为才得以保持未引爆。

因为原来的标称焦点 美国广播公司新闻 报道称,特朗普政府无能,没有注意到 XNUMX 月疫情迫在眉睫的警告,这个故事在早期引起了广泛的讨论,非常 在推特上广为流传 并吸引了 1,700 多条评论。 主要作者是新闻网首席调查记者乔什·马戈林,他出色的政府和情报来源极大地增强了其可信度和影响力。 即使是确认秘密报告在国际范围内传播的不那么突出的以色列故事也吸引了 50 多条评论。

但美国政府的一份秘密报告有着严重的影响,该报告描述了武汉尚未真正发生的潜在“灾难性”疾病爆发,一旦这些被发现,整个事件迅速被冲进媒体记忆洞,几乎从未提及再次,即使是另类记者。

DIA 报告中一个特别可疑的方面是,据称它是“对电线和计算机拦截的分析结果,再加上卫星图像”。 然而,在它准备好的时候——XNUMX 月的“第二周”——我们现在相信,在那个城市被 Covid 感染的中国人不超过少数,这几乎不是卫星侦察中那种明显的情况相片。

五角大楼的第一道防线只是否认该报告曾经存在过,尽管在以色列人确认他们和北约当时都收到了副本后,这变得更加困难。 但考虑到所涉及的巨大赌注,似乎已经迅速采取了额外的努力来混淆明显的吸烟枪。

在他无意间发表的重磅炸弹发表两个月后,Margolin 与他人合着了另一篇几乎两倍长的文章,这篇文章大力宣传了一篇未发表的文章。 哈佛医学院研究 据称复制了那些 DIA 调查结果。 作者声称已使用卫星图像和电子互联网数据证明,到 XNUMX 月或 XNUMX 月,病毒爆发已经在武汉造成了重大健康危机,据推测,当地医院已经承受了新冠肺炎患者的沉重负担,比之前认为的提前了几个月。 此类调查结果显然是为了解释 DIA 如何在 XNUMX 月得出类似结论,新闻报道的第二句话指出,这项研究是“[使用]与情报机构采用的技术类似的技术”,同时明确指出对 DIA 报告的引用也出现在正文的后面。

该研究的主要作者 John Brownstein 博士担任 美国广播公司新闻 贡献者,他被描述为在该项目上花费了一个多月,这表明它是在以色列电视台确认存在官方否认的 DIA 秘密报告几天后开始的。 大量使用了卫星成像,并聘请了领先的地理空间分析公司 RS Metrics 来评估数据。 作者声称没有收到任何外部资金,但可以肯定的是,此类服务的价格并不便宜,而且该项目似乎已在创纪录的时间内启动和完成。

未发表的研究很少受到媒体的广泛报道,但该报告以 2,500 个字的光辉进入公众视野 美国广播公司新闻 故事,比论文本身还长,并且 立马发了推文 小唐纳德特朗普和人权观察执行主任等知名人士,从而引起了极大的关注。 根据 Margolin 的文章,它已提交给 自然数字健康 并且正在接受同行评审,但十三个多月后它从未出现在该出版物或其他任何地方,这意味着它被一致拒绝发表。 而且,如此吉祥的发布会,在后续对武汉早期疫情的主流分析中,也从未被提及或引用过,表明这是一种尴尬,一种没有受人尊敬的记者和编辑会认真对待的分析。

原因显而易见。 Covid是一种传染性极强的疾病,一旦在城市社区形成,感染通常每3-6天就会增加一倍,所以如果XNUMX月或XNUMX月成千上万的Covid受害者堵塞了武汉的医院,整个城市就会到 XNUMX 月中旬实施封锁和其他强有力的公共卫生措施时,可能已经达到群体免疫。 然而,对于当时仍居住在这座城市的许多西方人来说,这场所谓的当地巨大健康危机完全没有察觉。

哈佛研究人员团队在如此短的时间内被动员起来,进行了一项明显是错误的和不合逻辑的研究,旨在解释 DIA 的秘密报告,这一事实只是强调了这种无意泄露的巨大重要性。 尽管显然被所有学术期刊拒绝并被常规媒体回避,但该研究仍然是易受骗者的有用谈话点,在线评论者经常引用它来解释和证明那些不可能的 DIA 结论,这就是它的方式第一次引起我的注意。

基于假阳性的虚假叙述

宣传武汉新冠病毒爆发比人们普遍认为的要早得多的错误证据是反华阵营的产物。 但类似的说法在亲中国的宣传者中变得相当普遍,他们经常争辩说,这种病毒在 2019 年期间在欧洲、美国和其他国家的部分地区传播,早在中国当局于 XNUMX 年在武汉发现其存在之前很久。那年年底。 这一理论显然是为了转移关于中国病毒(无论是否自然)造成全球数百万人死亡的指责。

这些所谓的早期 Covid 感染的最确凿证据是对不同国家储存的废水或血液样本的测试,结果发表在著名的科学期刊上。 出于参考目的,以下是我所知道的示例列表:

  • 西班牙巴塞罗那。 路透社, 谈话. 废水,12 年 2019 月 XNUMX 日。 造纸.
  • 意大利米兰, 路透社. 肺癌筛查中的血样,最早于2019年XNUMX月。 造纸.
  • 巴西圣卡塔利娜。 SCMP. 废水,27 年 2019 月 XNUMX 日。 造纸.
  • 法国。 CGTN, INSERM. 2019 年 2020 月至 XNUMX 年 XNUMX 月期间十二个地区的血液样本。 造纸.
  • 意大利米兰和都灵。 路透社. 废水,18 年 2019 月 XNUMX 日。 造纸.
  • 加利福尼亚州和其他八个州。 纽约时报. 红十字会 CDC 血液样本,最早于 13 年 2019 月 XNUMX 日。 造纸.
  • 伊利诺伊州和其他四个州, 纽约时报, WSJ. 血液样本,最早在 24 年 2019 月 XNUMX 日。 造纸.

乍一看,这六项科学研究的集合似乎是一个非常令人印象深刻的证据。 但是,尽管这些个案经常被组合在一起,并作为 Covid 在西方早期出现的证据,但必须做出重要的区分。 根据我们的标准时间表,Covid 病毒可能在 2019 年 XNUMX 月中旬至 XNUMX 月中旬之间首次出现在武汉,因此考虑到广泛的国际喷气式飞机旅行,它可能在 XNUMX 月之前最初到达欧洲或美洲部分地区的可能性几乎不会推翻我们的看法。现有框架,对于那些病毒似乎在 XNUMX 月下旬出现在其他地方的例子,情况也可能如此。

武汉是一个人口稠密的城市大都市,非常适合未知传染病的快速传播,但我们仍然认为,从零号病人的出现到疫情稳定增长引起当地卫生部门的关注,已经过去了几个月,因此,预计病毒在世界其他地区的最初出现与严重的局部爆发之间存在大致相似的差距。 此外,上述 Pekar 研究中运行的流行病学模拟表明,大多数最初的针刺感染会自行消失,只有一小部分会演变成规模更大、呈指数增长的局部流行病,并获得公众的关注。

所以在上述案例中,只有前两个——2019 年 XNUMX 月和 XNUMX 月——似乎严重挑战了我们现有的武汉原始来源假设。 当我们详细检查这些案例时,它们的可信度就会瓦解。

2020 年 12 月,存储的巴塞罗那废水显示 2019 年 2020 月 XNUMX 日的单一阳性 Covid 结果,而在随后的 XNUMX 个月内没有发现其他实例,直到 XNUMX 年 XNUMX 月,也就是发现最早的受害者和西班牙大规模爆发开始前几周。 这样一个单一的异常数据点很容易归因于实验室错误或样本的意外污染,甚至其他 西班牙语中文 专家们正是基于这些理由对测试结果表示强烈怀疑。

同样,早在 2019 年 11.6 月,意大利关于 Covid 感染的证据是基于一项大型癌症筛查试验中储存的血液样本,也非常值得怀疑。 根据所使用的抗体测试,到 2020 年 111 月,所有健康志愿者中有 XNUMX% 的人对该病毒呈阳性反应,这似乎意味着到那时已经有大量意大利人被感染,远远高于相应的总数。住院或死亡。 因此,如果这 XNUMX 例 Covid 感染总数中的绝大多数似乎是假阳性,那么追溯到 XNUMX 月的 XNUMX 例病例很可能也是如此。

假阳性的可能流行也削弱了其他研究的可信度,据称这些研究在 2019 年 XNUMX 月或 XNUMX 月之前在法国、巴西、意大利和美国部分地区检测到了该病毒。例如, 法语学习 根据血液抗体测试似乎表明,到 1.9 年 2019 月,已有 XNUMX% 的人口(超过 XNUMX 万人)已经被感染,这将在 XNUMX下一年。

同样, 抗体分析 我们自己的 CDC 研究人员对红十字会的血液样本进行的分析似乎表明,到 2 年 2020 月,98% 的美国人(超过 XNUMX 万人)已经被感染,这早在我们自己的第一次大规模爆发之前。 如果这么早就有如此多的美国人被感染,我们肯定会看到直接的证据,而感染的指数级增长将在接下来的一个月内淹没我们的医疗保健系统。 事实上,文章的主要作者似乎承认发现的抗体证据实际上相当可疑,这表明检测到的假设感染中多达 XNUMX% 可能是错误的。

一旦我们仔细考虑列表中最后一项研究的细节,我们强烈怀疑几乎所有这些异常结果都只是由于假阳性引起的。

15 年 2021 月 XNUMX 日 “纽约时报”“华尔街日报” 报告了一项新发表的研究的结果,该研究将抗体测试应用于大量储存的血液样本,并早在 24 年 2019 月 2019 日发现了美国人感染的证据,也就是第一个已知病例的几周前。 病毒可能在 XNUMX 年底之前到达这个国家并不奇怪,这些结果并没有严重挑战我们现有的说法。 然而,所采用方法的某些方面提供了重要信息。

由于对假阳性的严重担忧,研究人员决定对他们分析的 24,000 个血液样本进行两次 Covid 抗体检测,第一个检测标记了 147 个阳性结果,然后总数减少到第二个测试。 这意味着大约 9% 的初始 Covid 抗体匹配实际上是假阳性,并且很有可能第三次抗体测试可能会进一步减少检测到的真实感染总数。 一旦我们意识到单抗体测试中至少 95% 的匹配可能是假阳性,那么其他论文中极少数异常的早期 Covid 结果似乎就不再神秘了。

所有这些研究都是为了在世界各地寻找新冠病毒的最早迹象,肯定还有许多其他研究没有发现值得发表的结果,更不用说媒体报道了。 然而,除了两个轻微且明显是虚假的情况外,在我们目前认为它首次出现在武汉的日期之前,这项全球努力在世界任何地方都完全没有发现该病毒的迹象。 这为零假设提供了强有力的支持,充分肯定了我们现有的 Covid 时间表。

促进英尺。 Detrick 实验室泄漏是神经衰竭

应牢记在 2019 年 2019 月之前在数万份美国血液样本中完全不存在任何 Covid 抗体,因为我们考虑了 XNUMX 年夏季 Ft。 Detrick 泄密,这一理论在亲华宣传人员和反美“阴谋”网站中广为流行。

从 2020 年 XNUMX 月开始,反华分子一直在宣传武汉实验室泄密的理论,所以几周后,他们的亲华反美人士开始做出同样的回应,认为 Covid 确实是从实验室泄密的,但来源是英尺。 Detrick,美国首屈一指的生物战中心。 公平地说,鉴于该设施因违反安全规定而被 CDC 下令关闭八个月,后一种假设至少有一些坚实的事实基础,如 报道“纽约时报” 和其他报纸:

《纽约时报》截图,08 年 2019 月 XNUMX 日
屏幕截图 纽约时报 08年2019月XNUMX日

然而,该理论的另一半更令人怀疑。 2019 年,美国各地发生了一连串不寻常的呼吸道疾病,其中包括 2,600 多人需要住院治疗和 68 人死亡。 CDC 标记为 EVALI. 公然关闭 Ft。 德特里克因违反安全规定很快就出现了一波症状与 Covid 类似的疾病,这构成了一个整洁的一揽子计划,提供了简单的谈话要点,这使得病毒的责任被推回给美国人。 许多亲华游击队抓住了这个诱人的机会,中国官员或媒体机构有时会放大这些指责。

不幸的是,如果仔细检查证据,这个假设就会瓦解。 Covid 一个不寻常的方面是极端的年龄偏差,60 岁以上的受害者的死亡率可能是 40 岁以下的人的一百倍,而年轻人几乎无懈可击。 事实上,根据一些估计,大多数死亡发生在 70 多岁或以上的人中。 相比之下,EVALI 是一种年轻人的疾病,52% 的严重病例发生在 25 岁以下的人群中,而 Covid 可能只有 0.2%。 因此,受害者的情况似乎完全不同,相差超过两个数量级。

此外,Covid 最重要的一个特征是该疾病的传染性极强,如果没有强有力的公共卫生措施加以控制,其爆发将呈指数级增长。 但 CDC 网站上提供的 EVALI 病例图表讲述了一个非常不同的故事,在 2019 年夏季急剧上升,但到 XNUMX 月下旬下降到低水平。

EVALI 住院(CDC 网站)
EVALI 住院(CDC 网站)

如果到 2019 年年中,成千上万的美国人感染了 Covid,那么到年底感染总数将达到数千万,由此产生的数十万超额死亡将确保没有人关注新出现的新冠病毒。有报道称世界另一端的武汉爆发了一些病毒。 相比之下,似乎没有证据表明 EVALI 具有传染性,据 CDC 称,这与在电子烟产品中使用维生素 E 醋酸酯密切相关。

因此,这两种疾病具有完全不同的年龄特征、完全不同的流行病学特征和明显不同的病因。 在 EVALI 病例的高峰期,在美国没有发现任何 Covid 抗体的痕迹,而在我们的 Covid 爆发前几个月,这种抗体已经下降到低水平。 Ft 中只有几十个 EVALI 病例。 Detrick 地区以及加利福尼亚州、德克萨斯州、伊利诺伊州和纽约州的更多地区。 尽管有很多猜测,但没有证据表明任何东西,无论是传染性的、Covid 的还是其他的,已经从 Ft. 泄露出去了。 Detrick 在其临时关闭期间。

与高度难以置信的 Ft 理论密切相关。 德特里克实验室泄露的说法是,该病毒是由参加在该城市举行的世界军事运动会的美国参与者意外带到武汉的,该运动会于 27 年 2019 月 300 日结束。这个日期似乎几乎完全符合Covid 爆发,一年多来我一直建议,如果有 XNUMX 名美国军人和来自其他国家的数千名军人的存在,就可以为几个特工潜入城市以悄悄释放提供完美的掩护病毒。 值得一提的是,武汉汉口喜来登酒店接待了部分美军特遣队 位于仅一英里半 华南海鲜市场是爆发的早期震中,而武汉实验室则在 XNUMX 英里之外。

但是没有证据表明任何美国参与者自己都被感染了,如果 Covid 已经在美国广泛传播到足以感染团队的随机成员,那么我们自己的爆发就会在中国爆发之前几个月而不是之后几个月发生.

我强烈怀疑亲中国的游击队广泛关注 Ft。 德特里克实验室泄漏或其他一些意外的美国释放主要是出于政治上的权宜之计。 如上所述,有强有力甚至压倒性的证据表明,全球 Covid 流行是由美国对中国(和伊朗)的生物战袭击引起的,可能是由我们国家安全机构的流氓分子与特朗普高层附近的深州新保守派有关行政。 但随着数百万人的死亡,其中许多是美国人,这种不朽的指控可能很容易超过几乎所有记者和编辑的内心坚韧,即使是那些在其他媒体中发现的人。 因此,他们认为谴责美国因涉嫌 Ft. 实验室泄漏而安全得多。 Detrick,从而反映了武汉实验室的收费。 但是,推进没有事实依据的理论存在严重困难,包括严重损害一个人未来的可信度。

将“阴谋论者”引向死胡同

在 9/11 袭击事件发生后的几年里,互联网上发展了一场充满活力的“阴谋论者”运动,他们认为真实情况与官方故事大不相同,其中大多数都暗示美国政府严重参与了这些重大事件.

那时,互联网的渠道和监管远没有它最终成为的那样,政治机构几乎没有有效的手段来关闭这种令人不安的讨论。 因此,即将成为奥巴马高级助手的哈佛法学教授卡斯·桑斯坦 (Cass Sunstein), 精明地建议 那些精力充沛的人的活动最好通过“认知渗透”来破坏和扰乱。 政府的代理人或其亲密盟友应该加入这些在线社区,并推广各种额外的理论,通常是相当荒谬的理论,从而激起内部冲突,将成员引向理论的死胡同,并在更广泛的美国人中严重抹黑他们。上市。

没有证据表明桑斯坦本人曾尝试实施该项目,他也没有开创这个想法。 这种方法并不新鲜,J. Edgar Hoover 在 1950 年代末和 1960 年代臭名昭著的 Cointelpro 计划使用了非常相似的方法,尽管 FBI 的目标是现实生活中的激进组织,而不是那些不存在的互联网之前的在线社区天。 确实,使用 特工煽动者 一直是国内情报部门的标准操作手法。 但是,我们应该牢记这些显而易见的策略,因为我们考虑到在全球 Covid 流行及其对许多美国人的日常生活造成的严重压力之后如雨后春笋般涌现的大量不同阴谋理论。

许多人,也许是大多数人都非常不愿意接受任何没有受到他们个人权威人物祝福的理论,无论这些人是 “纽约时报” 或权威人士 福克斯新闻。 只有一小部分人愿意跨越这样的意识形态界限,冒着被贴上“阴谋论者”标签的危险。

坚持某些异端信仰的越轨者通常也愿意接受许多其他信仰,并且往往非常渴望这样做,有时会表现出令人不安的逻辑思维和仔细分析判断的缺乏,这可能会玷污他们的整个社区。 这让他们可以急切地咬住欺骗性但有吸引力的理论的毒饵,无论这些理论是由善意的倡导者、自私自利的骗子,还是从事“认知渗透”的机构的秘密代理人提出的。 在视频、推文和网站中大力宣传的大量非正统 Covid 理论可能来自这三个不同的来源。

有些人声称 Covid 不存在,或者说它几乎是无害的,比普通流感危险一点,我们所谓的死亡人数只是欺诈和媒体宣传的产物。 其他人则更进一步,认为病毒一般不存在。 这种情绪在本网站非常温和的评论线程中频繁出现,令人讨厌,导致我离开 以下回应 有几次:

但这里列出了过去几年美国因各种原因死亡的总数,直接取自 CDC 网站:

2014:2,626,418
2015:2,712,630
2016:2,744,248
2017:2,813,503
2018:2,839,205
2019:2,854,838
2020:3,384,426

您会注意到,直到2020年,这些数字突然跃升了500,000万以上,这个数字还是相当稳定的。

如果我不知道更好,我几乎会以为美国那一年就被危险的疾病流行所震惊。

显然,到2020年再有XNUMX万人死亡是大还是小,这只是个人观点。

该国和其他地方为控制病毒传播而实施的强有力的公共卫生措施——封锁、戴口罩和保持社交距离——对许多人来说非常具有破坏性和不愉快,引发了广泛的严厉批评,从合理到荒谬的。 开发和分发有效疫苗(包括新的和经过简单测试的疫苗)的全力以赴将 Covid 争议与长期存在的反 vaxx 运动合并,后者最著名的倡导者是 小罗伯特·肯尼迪,

由于没有在这些问题上花费太多时间,我只能说,关于这个主题的大量激动人心的评论显得古怪和难以置信。 许多活动家似乎认为这是一个全球统一的阴谋,涉及中国、美国、俄罗斯、以色列、伊朗和几乎所有其他国家,他们都在秘密合作,假装 Covid 是危险的,而针对它的疫苗不是,尽管事实是正好相反。 但是所有这些相互敌对的国家在这样一个奇怪的计划中合作的想法似乎极不可能,俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔普京最近 正是这一点 在他向关心的公民发表的冗长的年度报告中:

听说:什么都没有,现实中没有疫情。 当你告诉他们这正在世界各地发生时,他们会回答:“对,国家领导人串通一气。” 他们是否知道世界上正在发生的事情,以及困扰当今世界的矛盾,据称所有领导人都在互相勾结和密谋? 这绝对是垃圾。

对于这些激动的活动家来说,特别荒谬的是主要恶棍的演员阵容,他们经常将世界经济论坛的克劳斯施瓦布和微软创始人比尔盖茨视为我们全球灾难的恶魔般的策划者,他们的阴谋被确定为“伟大的重置” 。” 几个月前,我解决了其中一些主张 在我的评论之一中:

我承认,整个伟大的重置/2021 年议程/世界经济论坛的内容在我看来一直是彻头彻尾的疯狂,如此荒谬以至于我除了有时在自己的网站上阅读一些文章或讨论之外从未研究过它。 我还把所有“比尔盖茨的邪恶灭绝人类阴谋”都归入了几乎相同的类别。

我非常怀疑,这些(在我看来)令人难以置信和荒谬的“阴谋论”可能被宣传以转移人们对 Covid-19 是美国生物战攻击的非常真实和有力的证据的注意力。 毕竟,中央情报局或任何更喜欢互联网上激动的激进分子的人,难道不会把所有的时间都花在对一位名叫克劳斯·施瓦布 (Klaus Schwab) 的 83 岁瑞士国际银行家的咆哮上,他在达沃斯举行年度公开会议,而不是关注所有这些我积累的证据表明美国的国家安全机构与这场巨大的全球灾难有关?

实际上,难道不是卡斯·桑斯坦(Cass Sunstein)几年前就说过,使用“认知渗透”来提倡荒谬的废话是在互联网上击败“阴谋理论家”的最佳手段吗? 它在9/11上效果很好,所以为什么不将它也应用到Covid-19?

我会第一个承认,各种团体和个人肯定在利用病毒流行,特别是让美联储花费数万亿美元来救助他们的业务和贷款,并大幅推高他们的股价。 但在 2008 年金融危机之后,他们利用政治权力以完全相同的方式掠夺美国财政部,并在不需要任何疾病爆发的情况下获得了巨额政府救助。 所以我怀疑他们为此目的创建了 Covid-19。

最近,我们 NIH 的 Anthony Fauci 博士被妖魔化为一个特定的目标,部分原因是他已经因为与我们不受欢迎的封锁和其他控制流行病的措施有联系而被许多活动家憎恨。 有线新闻节目的重点是他参与资助武汉实验室的研究,包括病毒的增强,这似乎暗示他对创建 Covid 负有责任。

但这些事实已经广为人知一年多,呈现在 2020年XNUMX月的文章 in 新闻周刊。 无论如何,由于 Covid 可能不是来自武汉实验室,所以整个问题完全无关紧要,一个经典的红鲱鱼用来分散轻信者的注意力。 正如我在上个月的评论中所讨论的:

我认为目前 95% 的人在谈论“功能增益”时甚至从未听说过这个词,直到几周前 福克斯新闻美国有线电视新闻网 在韦德的重要文章之后,他开始 24/7 全天候发布它。

甚至中度感兴趣的每个人都知道一年或更长时间,NIH 通过 Daszak 的组织为武汉实验室的病毒研究提供了大部分资金,并且此类研究包括增强病毒的特性,即 GoF。 我阅读了 2020 年 12,000 月发表的 Deigin 长篇文章,以及 Nicholas Baker 于 2021 年 XNUMX 月发表的长达 XNUMX 字的长篇封面故事。正如韦德本人所强调的那样,他讨论的几乎所有事实都因一年或更长时间,但只是被讨厌特朗普的美国男男性接触者忽视了。

武汉实验室做了增强病毒的研究。 所以呢? 许多许多其他实验室,其中大多数是美国实验室,其中一些是秘密的生物战站点,进行完全相同的研究。 人们指向武汉实验室的唯一原因是因为它在武汉。

未解决的系统发育分析之谜

为完整起见,我还应该讨论全球 Covid 流行病的一个奇怪方面,即使它得到了亲华活动家和媒体的大力宣传,我们的西方媒体也完全忽视了这一方面。

与任何 RNA 冠状病毒一样,Covid 在世界各地传播时经历了一系列随机突变,科学家们创建了一个国际数据库,其中包含来自不同地理区域的大量全测序 Covid 病毒,使专家能够追踪可能的起源的特定爆发。

从 2020 年 XNUMX 月开始,几个不同的病毒学家和其他科学家研究团队发表了学术论文,试图利用这些基因数据构建病毒的完整祖先树,使用数学技术将病毒划分为几个主要的进化枝或祖先家族。 但相当令人惊讶的发现似乎只揭示了武汉本身的一个统一分支,而在广东、亚洲和欧洲其他国家,尤其是在美国发现了几个不同的祖先家族。 下面的图表说明了这一点,摘自其中一篇论文。

这样的结果似乎很违反直觉,因为我们通常会期望在病毒首次出现的地点发现最大的基因多样性,而各种亲中国的作家 迅速抓住 根据这些发现,争辩说 Covid 并非起源于武汉,而是从拥有最多不同 Covid 毒株的美国带到那里。

这些期刊文章发表于中美之间就这场全球灾难的责任进行大规模国际宣传战的早期阶段,其成本总计达数万亿美元。 大多数论文是由中国学术机构的中国研究人员撰写的,这自然会引起人们对研究结果可能不准确或至少是歪曲的怀疑。 但其中一篇最著名的文章是由一个英德团队撰写的,并出现在 PNAS,我们自己国家科学院的著名旗舰期刊,无论如何,所有结果都应该基于对公共遗传数据集的客观分析。 以下是两篇最早的论文以及一篇更新的论文的链接:

正如我们所见,对美国、欧洲和世界其他地区储存的废水和血液样本的分析,在武汉爆发之前的任何地方都没有发现任何可信的新冠病毒痕迹,因此亲华分子对这些研究结果的解释似乎是错误的。 但是 Covid 进化枝的国际地图仍然令人费解。

鉴于在我咨询的主流资源中完全没有对这些异常进行任何讨论,我试图自己阅读这些文章,但我完全缺乏技术专长让我感到无所适从。 重要的 PNAS 这篇论文引起了其他研究人员的三封批评性信件,对结果提出异议,作者随后反驳了这些,同时承认他们的发现的含义被一些作者误解了。 但我发现无法正确评估这些相互矛盾的科学主张。

由于在任何地方都找不到对结果的知情讨论,并且无法正确解释它们,我联系了一位知识渊博的人并征求他的意见。 尽管以前不知道这些科学发现,但他认为,在最初武汉爆发与很快在世界其他地方爆发之间的几个月内,少量 Covid 突变可能会使祖先树技术无效或具有误导性,这或许可以解释这种差异. 但是,如果这个问题由无私的科学家在公开场合彻底辩论而不是被我们的媒体完全忽视,我会感到更自在。

了解三代人中最重要的世界事件

第二次世界大战已在 75 多年前结束,在过去的三代人中,似乎没有任何事件像持续的全球 Covid 流行病一样对世界产生如此大的影响。 苏联的解体将是唯一严重的对手,尽管这一戏剧性的发展极大地改变了数亿苏联公民和东欧人的生活,但其他地方的大多数人认为它只不过是新闻中的一个故事。 相比之下,数十亿人的日常生活已经受到新冠病毒的严重影响,包括我们在内的主要国家的财政和经济政策也发生了变化。

从一开始,许多领先的科学专家就认为 Covid 是人类设计的产物, 特别是包括病毒学家大卫巴尔的摩,诺贝尔奖获得者,加州理工学院前校长。 但出于各种原因,我们的西方媒体机构反而迅速建立了一种类似波将金的共识,即病毒完全是自然的,全球灾难是随机的、不可预见的事件,没有人可以为此受到指责。 然而,在过去的几个月里,这种宣传泡沫已经破裂,现在越来越多的人认为 Covid 可能是在某个实验室设计的人造产物。

同一个美国主导的宣传机构花了十二个多月收集事实和逻辑的碎片,大声宣布病毒是自然的,无视所有异议的声音,现在又聚集了其他事实和逻辑的碎片,争辩说它是在中国创造的并从武汉实验室泄露,再次无视那些提出不同意见的人。

但是,推动这一新共识的主流作家的洪流将他们的叙述建立在薄如丝的事实基础上,而那些猜测的蜘蛛网最近被一扫而空 通过直接的个人证词 丹妮尔·安德森 (Danielle Anderson) 是一位受人尊敬的西方病毒学家,当时她在武汉实验室工作,她将 Covid 要么是在那里制造的,要么曾发生过任何实验室泄漏的可能性“非常渺茫”。

从一开始,这种疾病就有三个可能的起源。 Covid 要么是一种天然病毒,要么是一种中国病毒,要么是一种美国病毒。 但是,尽管我们的媒体在第一种和第二种可能性之间摇摆不定,但第三种可能性被完全排除在考虑之外,而那些建议完全忽略的人。

这种信息封锁甚至扩展到世界主要政府。 病毒以惊人的速度从武汉传播到库姆超过 3,000 英里,并感染了伊朗议会和政治领导阶层的大部分成员,导致该国及其媒体谴责此次爆发可能是美国对其两个主要国际对手发动的生物战袭击,中国和伊朗,伊朗前总统 向联合国提出正式投诉. 但几乎没有美国人被告知一个拥有 80 万人口的国家对这些严重的公开指控。

几周前 我总结了我自己的结论 关于疫情:

因此,我们很可能认为 Covid 来自实验室,并且很有可能将其设计为生物武器,但我们缺乏严重的迹象表明发生了任何实验室泄漏。 因此,如果最初的武汉爆发是由于部署了一种强大的生物武器而不是从任何实验室意外泄漏的生物武器,那么中国肯定是预定目标,受害者而不是肇事者。 事实上,中华人民共和国之所以避免遭受破坏,只是因为它以极其迅速的方式作出反应,并迅速实施了异常强大的公共卫生控制。 大约 700 亿中国人被限制在家中长达数周,这种封锁可能比历史上以前任何时候都严重一千多倍。

鉴于我们与中国的持续军事和地缘政治对抗,美国似乎是袭击的可能来源。 然而,一旦病毒最终到达我们自己的国家,特朗普总统完全懒惰的反应表明他自己完全不知道自己正面临着危险的生物武器的威胁,从而证明了自己的清白。 最有可能的嫌疑人是我们国家安全机构的流氓分子,可能是特朗普将其置于政府高层附近的一些深州新保守派。

这一小撮高级策划者随后会利用美国国家安全机构的资源来实际执行行动。 该病毒及其传播装置可能是从 Ft. 德特里克和中央情报局的特工或特种部队成员会被派往武汉释放它。 然而,所有这些后者都会相信他们正在参与对美国主要地缘政治对手的完全授权的秘密军事打击。 实际上,发生的事情是 Strangelove博士- 类型的场景,但被带到现实生活中。

我在其他地方提供了支持生物战攻击而不是随机实验室泄漏的证据摘要,以及假设情景的概述:

在我倡导同样的基本论点的 XNUMX 个月里,最令人惊讶的反应来自特朗普政府的激烈批评者,这些批评者在精英圈子中如此之多。

在过去的几年里,特朗普经常以几乎漫画书的方式受到诽谤,他是一位威胁我们整个生活方式的独特危险总统,这种歇斯底里的指控通常是基于他粗俗的公开言论,甚至是他拼错的推文。 与此同时,这些批评者完全忽视了一个非常真实的证据,即他所任命的个人对中国和伊朗进行了异常鲁莽的生物战攻击,其意外后果摧毁了我们自己的社会,并杀死了我们自己的数十万人。公民。 猛烈抨击特朗普的统治精英们,对他粗俗的琐事,放大得面目全非,而对这些大事不屑一顾,从而表现出令人震惊的颓废和唯我主义。

未来的历史学家肯定会将此标记为可能在衰败的美利坚帝国的黄昏时期非常有说服力的一集。

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  1. Ron Unz 说:

    鉴于这篇长文章的主题和许多评论者的情绪,我担心许多评论可能会大大偏离该主题的正确主题。

    请注意,关于流感恶作剧、反疫苗、非正统医学疗法或类似切线问题的讨论可能会被视为严重偏离主题,发表的可能性要小得多。 因此,只需将它们带到其他地方,包括在本网站上。

  2. I found this short video of great interest. The man who developed the two mRNA based vaccines is unsure they are safe. (Pfizer and Moderna) The Johnson and Johnson is based on the proven/traditional dead virus vaccine. For unknown reasons, Youtube allowed this video, and it got 2.5 million views in one month!

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTX

    Governments are confused why millions of Americans don’t want a COVID vaccine. One problem is they read. For example, here is an article where the two mRNA vaccine makers say a booster shot is required every six to eight months, and brag about the money they will make. Meanwhile, government experts think they may be good for a year, but are not sure, while some studies claim that vaccines are good for years.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/will-we-need-covid-19-booster-shots-increasingly-the-expectation-is-yes-11621956459?mod=home-page

    If the vaccines are only good for a short term, then the vaccination rate will decline! Most people became ill from their first vaccine, do they want one twice a year?

    • 不同意: Sarah
  3. “From the first, there had been three plausible origins for the disease. Covid was either a natural virus, a Chinese virus, or an American virus. But although our media has wildly swung between the first and second possibilities, the third has been entirely excluded from consideration, with those who suggest it completely ignored.”

    The scientific experts conflict one another and without a scientific certainty whether this virus was man made or not, it’s irrelevant. Would we think it so important to find the origination of each flu virus, or any virus? Maybe. If it’s politically important, yes. For example the Spanish Flu, no one knows for certain where it came from, but our government and allies wanted to blame it on someone else. It never came from Spain that much is sure. AIDs? For some reason it was important to blame an African monkey and not drug using homosexuals. Either way we will never truly know.

    This blame game is absolutely a waste of time. The governments and media narratives surrounding the virus are what is important. Especially when you consider how exaggerated all initial estimates of infections and deaths were and who benefited from the coordinated global lockdown response. The WHO and CDC have a strong history of over blowing supposed pandemics. It is accepted now for instance that heterosexuals have no risk of getting AIDS. How they count AIDS cases in Africa is also bogus. The WHO, CDC, and big pharma only get paid when there is a big boogy man out there, so they will always exaggerate the dangers.

    If I had to speculate I would ask, who benefits? Technology, Healthcare industries, and Banking (getting the entire western world to double their debt in 1 year). I won’t get conspiratorial in regards to privacy rights and other liberties, mainly because those have all been slowly eroding away anyway, the covid pandemic just has accelerated the erosion.

    • 同意: Red Pill Angel, Skeptikal
    • 回复: @animalogic
    , @TTSSYF
  4. Let’s do a quick CTRL-F analysis:
    “Bioweapon” appears a remarkable 21倍.
    “Gain of function?” zero
    “Daszak” zero
    “Baric” zero
    “PREDICT” zero
    “USAID” zero
    “NIAID,” “NIH,” “Fauci” — also zero

    I realize that Unz is pretty invested in the “ZOG bioweapon!” vs. “CCP bioweapon!” dialectic, and conflating “possible lab origin” with “bioweapon,” but still… it would be good if he at least acknowledged the well-known existence of high level collaboration between Chinese AND American government entities in sponsoring research intended to enhance the virulence and transmissibility of bat coronaviruses for ostensibly “peaceful” purposes.

    其他说明:

    Together with its close Israeli ally, the U.S. has long maintained an effective network of agents and operatives in Iran…

    Leaving aside the [obviously false] characterization of the Zionist entity as somehow an “ally” to America — which country runs the port of Haifa again?
    And to which country has Israel been selling US military technology for the past 40 years?
    另见:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/06/israels-growing-ties-china-are-testing-its-relationship-with-us/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Israel_relations
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=blackstone+china&ia=web
    等等

    Also, Unz engages in some slick maneuvering with the Ebright quotes here in a way that seems a little unfair to Ebright:

    In his January 29, 2020 interview with the Washington Post, he had declared: “Based on the virus genome and properties there is no indication whatsoever that it was an engineered virus.”

    1. That was very early on in the epidemic.
    2. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

    That quote is mmediately followed by this one:

    And according to a Post story a couple of weeks later, he also added “The possibility that this was a deliberately released bioweapon can be firmly excluded.”

    Again, accidental leak from gain of function research =/= intentional bioweapon deployment. But by citing these two short quotes in quick succession, then repeating the term “bioweapon” yet again in the very next sentence, Unz attempts to give the reader the impression that the two ,那恭喜你, 相同。

    What did Ebright have to say about that important distinction? From 琼斯妈妈, 5/14/20:

    One of the few scientists to speculate publicly was the well-known Rutgers microbiologist Richard Ebright. “The possibility that SARS-CoV-2 entered humans as a direct result of the activities of PREDICT—during field collection of bats and bat excreta, or during laboratory characterization of bats, bat excreta, or bat viruses—cannot be excluded and cannot be dismissed,” he told me, comparing the idea of actively seeking new viruses in remote places and bringing them back to labs (in densely populated areas) to “looking for a gas leak with a lighted match.”

    Good point. The process of collecting all of these viruses from the wild and storing/ culturing them in a major urban center enhances the risk of accidental release into human populations, even before they start in with the “gain of function” stuff. It would be interesting to know exactly what Ben Hu was doing with his research with chimeric bat coronaviruses in humanized mice from the lab of American microbiologist Ralph S. Baric of the University of North Carolina, though…

    • 谢谢: Dieter Kief, Kali, Alfred
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  5. But the international map of Covid clades remains puzzling.

    If the coronavirus pandemic was an example of biological warfare, then not expecting blowback from the attack would be rank stupidity.

    How could a country instigating biological warfare protect its home and its allied populations? A vaccination campaign in the home and allied countries prior to the attack would be too obvious. A possible solution is to release far more infectious but relatively benign variants in the home country and its allied populations and an extremely damaging variant in the target countries.

    How could plan possibly go wrong? Testing only on the young and failing to take account of the elderly.

    The former Novartis and now CSL (Seqirus) Fluad and the Hungarian Fluart flu vaccines include an adjuvant designed to activate the immune system and it is mainly the elderly and the immuno compromised who are given flu vaccines. If the more infectious but supposedly benign variant reacted with the adjuvant to cause the cytokine storm you have an explanation both for the high mortality among the elderly and the sudden panic of Western politicians who early on were so unconcerned and talking of herd immunity.

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    Look at the excess mortality figures in Europe which are available at https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps, note that Germany had a greater peak of excess deaths in 2018 than 2020-2021 and Greece for example had no excess deaths, while the peaks for the UK and to a lesser extent Spain, France and Italy are extraordinary.

    The flu vaccination rates by country offer a partial explanation https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org//sites/2700bb99-en/index.html?itemId=/content/component/2700bb99-en#figure-d1e22268. However not all flu vaccines have an adjuvant so the real test would be to compare the adjuvanted flu vaccine sales per country (which are available for a fee from market analysts) to the excess deaths.

    I would also note that knowledge of the bioweapon’s use would have to be limited and that once blowback occurred the bioweapons party in government would rapidly lose favor and power and their opponents would take over.

    • 谢谢: Alfred, Bugey libre, RichardDuck
    • 回复: @Anonymous
    , @Mark Hunter
  6. angmoh 说:

    The analysis in 本文 suggests that there is a lack of molecular genetic evidence for recent GOF selection. There is further discussion of other aspects of the current debate on this topic.

    Of course there is still a dearth of reliable and unbiased information on this issue – the questions are still worth asking.

  7. Anonymous[333]• 免责声明 说:

    So-called weapons of mass destruction are usually taken to fall into one of three categories: Biological, Chemical or Nuclear. I think we have now seen how catastrophic the first class can be when set loose in the world either by accident or design. Someone seems to be walking a dangerous fine line, either the Russians and their allies or more likely Washington and its allies, with their reckless handling of purported batches of “Novichok” in Europe and Sarin in the Middle East. I hope the warrior chemists have learnt a lesson from the warrior microbiologists about the dangers of being sloppy or being full of much more hubris than caution and good sense. The nuclear warriors are as crazy as ever, making threats that if put into play would see the end of all civilisation.

    Instead of electing a competent “philosopher king” to judiciously hammer out agreements with Putin and Xi to contain these dangerous genies capable of killing us all, maybe even the cockroaches, the string pullers behind the scenes give us the corrupt-to-the-core and barely lucid Dementia Joe as the preferred alternative to the much maligned snatch-grabbing tax dodger whom nobody realised was actually meant to lose the previous presidential election by design to the scarily ferocious Hillary. If such inherently lethal WMD’s cannot be negotiated into oblivion by national leaders of good will, just what is the plan for the day they break jail? You know, because Murphy’s Law and all that? Maybe coming to pass by virtue of something an AI entity we also create and assign too much decision-making prerogatives down the road? We cannot use the “Iraq Gambit” of blowing their nation-state owners to smithereens without causing the very devastation we wish to avoid. Even taking out the nuclear weapons stockpiles of a North Korea, Pakistan, India or Israel–to say nothing of the major players–with a military strike would precipitate a nuclear winter. When contemplating such days, I really wish those anonymous space aliens so befuddling our finest minds in military spookdom would step forward and volunteer their wisdom on the subject. All I’m hearing from team H. sapiens right now is “I got nothin’.”

  8. I doubt the world is capable of honestly figuring out the origins of COVID-19. The media is a tool to create narratives for people to believe in. I don’t expect much more than delusions and deceptions from the media.

    The US military is afraid of blow back from COVID-19. Particularly, they don’t want scrutiny of their bio-warfare programs and the Vanity Fair article documented a little bit of this. The US military establishment has a lot of power to make inconvenient stories go away. We aren’t privy to classified Chinese communications and maybe the DIA is. The Moderna vaccine was ready two days after the Chinese had sequenced the virus’s genome.

    I’ll add to the conspiracy theory. What if agents of the US military were inoculated with this vaccine and were asymptomatic carriers of the virus? They could go to all these countries or meet people who would go to these countries and shed the virus like at the games in Wuhan. The danger of fixating on Wuhan or any spot is that it leads to tunnel vision like WTC 7 and 9/11. It doesn’t change the fact that our country is run by evil human beings, and despite China being a better country in many respects it is still authoritarian. If the virus is man-made then it could have been initially released anywhere. There could be multiple versions of it that were developed and released. The new ones coming out could be updates in their field experiment. I’m no expert. Is it productive to focus on who did it like 9/11, rather than the very real policies of the US government like its terrible COVID-19 response, the existence of biolabs with dangerous pathogens, and US warmongering? Why do we need biolabs with dangerous pathogens, including gain-of-function research if we can have a vaccine within 2 days of a dangerous pathogen’s genome being sequenced? The development of Moderna’s 2 day miracle needs to be thoroughly explained. Did they have to tweak an existing vaccine that was in development, did they have it already due to insider knowledge, or are vaccine manufacturers just that good nowadays!

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  9. GMC 说:

    Most of us don’t need much more evidence than this, but one has to wonder how the public refuses to see the writing on the wall, if they just do a little research. Just one look at the number of BioWeapons labs that the US, Israel, Brits, Germans, Italians, Ukrainian and other militaries have around the world, should be pretty convincing.
    . Now add the BioLabs from Monsanto/Bayer, Carghill, DuPont, all the Big Pharma ones , and let’s not forget about all the interrelated Universities and Research centers around the world who are funded by the same governments, corporations and “philanthropist/ Humanitarian” foundations. The verdict is Guilty , and there is nyet need for any – investigation or trial because the last thing we will ever get is Justice from these liars, Thieves and Murderers. What’s next – Cyber Wars, false flags and more death.

    • 同意: Alfred, Red Pill Angel
  10. When technopolies aka deep state censors a sitting president who surrounds himself with traitorous big government goons, hell bent on the enslavement of the white working class, I’m more than convinced that this plandemic is a mixture of US/ChiCom collusion to undermine Trump and his 75 million supporters exposing all the corruption in offshoring American factories and the jobs that went with it.
    Big tech aka technopolies and their banker baron handlers decided it would be in the best interest for (((them))) to roll out a global virus to protect their vital interest by declaring themselves ‘essential assets’ to destroy nonessential businesses, reaping trillions in added value as small businesses collapse under the cloak of a fake pandemic.
    Countries the world over need to send a middle finger to every NWO state with a clear message, fuck off, we don’t buy your NWO B.S.

    • 同意: Morton's toes, Dystopian
  11. Anonymous[224]• 免责声明 说:

    2014:2,626,418
    2015:2,712,630
    2016:2,744,248
    2017:2,813,503
    2018:2,839,205
    2019:2,854,838
    2020:3,384,426

    Was there much difference between states that drastically locked down and those with less draconian policies? Also, the lockdown policies made things worse in places like NY where Covid patients were placed in nursing homes, negatively affecting the most vulnerable population.

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    Also, might not a comparable number of people have died even without a pandemic as the result of severe disruptions to the economy, culture, and daily routines? One thing for sure, the panic kept many people away from hospitals out of fear of infection. Many people with serious illnesses weren’t treated. Many turned to alcoholism and drugs. Suicide rate spiked among certain age groups.

    Millions of Russians died prematurely in the 1990s due to massive economic shocks that also led to social malady and alienation. There was no pandemic.

    So, the idea that all 500,000 excess deaths were related to Covid seems unlikely. Perhaps, 200,000, but the rest were negatively affected by profound disruptions to their normal lives.

    Suppose there was no pandemic in 2020 but the government, federal and local, had mandated lockdowns and ground much of the economy, social life, and health-related activity to a standstill. With rising depression and isolation, along with many people going untreated or unexamined out of fear of hospitals, the death rates would surely have risen sharply.

    • 同意: Skeptikal
  12. @Ron Unz

    Great article, but the warning to censor is unbecoming of this great site I’ve come to embraced with informed topics declared taboo by the usual cast and crew.
    Thank you for exposing truth in a world of disinformation.

    • 同意: Johnny Smoggins
    • 不同意: Sarah
    • 回复: @Avery
  13. Feb. 25, 2021: “Positive COVID-19 samples had been reported earlier than those officially accepted by health authorities in other countries, such as France and Italy. Analyzing Covid genomes using k-mer natural vector method, we conclude that the virus likely already existed in France, India, Netherlands, England, and the USA before the Wuhan outbreak”.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10473-021-0323-x

    The CDC found Covid endemic in the US in December, 2019, and on June 23, 2021, an NIH study confirmed that by announcing COVID-19 prevalence far exceeded early pandemic cases. NIH researchers estimate nearly 17 million undiagnosed cases in the U.S. by mid-July 2020 and that there were 4.8 undiagnosed cases for every diagnosed COVID-19 case in this time frame, representing an additional 16.8 million cases by July alone.
    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-suggests-covid-19-prevalence-far-exceeded-early-pandemic-cases

    June 19, 2021: the Chief Scientist at the European Precision Research Institute in France, told the media that her team found the outbreak in France before 2020 was caused by an indigenous virus. After she published her paper disproving the connection between France’s outbreak and Wuhan, the French government and politicians silenced and shunned her institute.
    https://newcoldwar.org/us-scientists-report-earliest-known-covid-19-case-a-solid-proof-next-stage-should-be-focused-especially-on-the-us-chinese-epidemiologist/

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Paul2
    , @MEH 0910
  14. The reason that the origins of COVID is so “mysterious” is that the published mainstream material we get to read about its origin is generated under the watchful eye of the Intelligence Services that represent the interests of the forces responsible for creating this entire global fraud.

    The truth of this will never be nailed down until the world has been broken and is in the process of reconstruction.

    The labs are most likely responsible for producing the spike-protein-manufacturers in the vaccine. That’s where the real bio-weapon lurks.

    Prime suspect for the original COVID symptoms is 5G. EMF radiation was recognised as the cause of severe chest infections in the 1600s when outbreaks were correlated to high sunspot activity by the Galileos of this world (using their telescopes) … hence the name INFLUENZA (del stelle) or, “influence of the stars.

    Science used to be a thing in the 1600s.
    Today the ‘wisest’ skeptics edit their perspective, shutting off the obvious as possible cause.

    Weep while ye may.

    • 谢谢: Kali, Bugey libre
  15. 罗恩,我总是觉得你的文章很有趣,有时也很有说服力。 我还认为,美国作为对抗中国的生物武器支持该病毒(尽管适得其反)。

    但是,忽略疫苗的危险性和其他令人信服的论点,尤其是罗伯特·肯尼迪、米歇尔·乔苏多夫斯基教授(全球研究)和威廉·恩达尔的阴谋论,根本没有说服力。

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    我们如何知道真正的影响何时对我们隐藏?

    在民法中,您使用称为“概率平衡”的证明程度来对任何事项得出结论。 丹宁勋爵在 Miller 诉 Pensions (1974) 2 All ER 372 一案中指出,在评估“证据”时,我们必须说:“我们认为这更有可能”。 那么,一个版本是否超过另一个版本?

    在“天平”中衡量的不是证据的数量,而是由该证据产生的概率以及案件的所有情况。

    有很多理由不信任当前的疫苗。 也有很多理由要求“ quo bono”(谁获得利益)从这一切中脱颖而出,因为它可以带来对真相的迷信。

    辩论必须继续使我们更接近做出更好的决定。

    • 谢谢: Bugey libre
  16. ISL 说:

    罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)

    Each of your articles has strengthened the arguments. Also supportive is that China acted in exactly the manner one would expect for a bioweapon (not a highly toxic flu), particularly the construction of special permanent infectious disease hospitals in an amazingly short time. Russia followed suit.

    It is almost as if they expected more new pandemics. Of course plausible deniability works both ways, and if your scenario is correct, retaliation seems likely – particularly since the US health care system has been revealed as singularly incapable of addressing a pandemic – i.e., economic damage is magnified due to structural incompetence and corruption.

    Given the uncertainty of vaccines and variants, this fall would present an ideal opportunity.

  17. 作为一个无法完全诚实的人,Unz 认为美国(或其以色列合作伙伴)是伊朗病毒式攻击其领导层的源头。
    显然,伊朗是以色列而不是美国的敌人。一个诚实的人会注意到这一点,并将这次袭击归功于摩萨德。 但鉴于犹太人(缺乏)性格的习惯性不诚实,Unz 吐出垃圾。
    事实上,13 家族的先锋和黑石都拥有世界的大部分。 罗斯柴尔德是其中的核心。 据估计,罗斯柴尔德拥有 500 万亿资产。 任何事情都未经他的批准或支持而发生的想法是可笑的。
    因此,我们必须争辩说,对人类的攻击是犹太人对世界的攻击。 是的,伙计们,撒旦的选民像往常一样,正在尝试另一场种族灭绝。
    由于 Event 201 预示着 Covid 19,因此 Cyber​​ Polygony(从 9 月 XNUMX 日开始)将看到网络攻击、物流中断、导致饥荒的粮食短缺以及对互联网和所有通讯的全面控制。
    欢迎来到 6 年 1940 月 XNUMX 日华盛顿邮报的犹太人世界秩序。

    • 谢谢: Kramer, Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • 巨魔: Mark Hunter
    • 回复: @Badger Down
    , @Wizard of Oz
  18. @Ron Unz

    I’m in total agreement with you Ron – we should just deal in FACTS.

    Seeing as I’m Australian, let’s look at this graph which shows the percentage of Australians that have received the experimental mRNA jabs and try to extrapolate if there’s a relationship between low vaccination rates and Covid Mortality:

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    https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/Y66oYna6c-q85rTZy6qJbbFYivU=/800×0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2F7af70cb1-e844-4cbf-bca0-f0d0466280c0

    Oh dear, it seems that Australia is a stone-cold dead motherless LAST PLACE compared to other major countries, with just over 4% of the population having been gullible enough to accept the experimental gene therapy that’s masquerading as a vaccine.

    Surely then, our Covid mortality statistics must be horrific.

    ACTUAL OUTCOME: Only ONE (1) person is alleged* to have died from Covid-19 this year in Australia.

    (* I say alleged because said very old individual had multiple co-morbitities that almost certainly killed them, but miraculously Covid got the blame).

    • 同意: acementhead
    • 谢谢: Bugey libre
  19. Anonymous[270]• 免责声明 说:

    The fact that the natural origin narrative had been pushed so hard by the Western MSM for many months strongly suggests the US Deep State bioweapon. At the time, they wanted to hide their weapon by claiming it’s not a weapon at all.

    The good news is that the Chinese are finally starting to figure out the gravity of the situation. In related news, it looks like they’re building hundreds of new nuclear silos. I can’t say I blame them.

    • 回复: @MarkU
  20. utu 说:

    (1) Wade and possibly Baker cited opinion of David Baltimore (related to the furin cleavage) in support that the virus was man made. I got an impression that Baltimore was the only high calibre scientist they could come up with because most of their claims were based on Yuri Deigin and Steven Quay who are not biologists. Steven Quay (physicians and successful entrepreneur) was clearly recruited by some ex State Dept guy currently with some conservative think tank while Deigin (mathematician) is a puzzle but his bio (is in one of my comments) indicates that he is a hustler.

    Anyway David Baltimore changed or significantly qualified his opinion in June 2021.

    Column: A Nobel laureate backs off from claiming a ‘smoking gun’ for the COVID-19 lab-leak theory (Jun 8)
    https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-06-08/nobel-laureate-baltimore-smoking-gun-for-the-covid-lab-leak-theory

    The Debate over Origins of SARS-CoV-2 (Jun 22)
    https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/the-debate-over-origins-of-sars-cov-2

    So where did it come from in SARS-CoV-2? There are other viruses that have furin cleavage sites, other coronaviruses, though not the family of beta-coronaviruses. So this sequence’s nucleotides could have hopped from some other virus. No one has identified a virus that has exactly this sequence, but it could have come from something close, then evolved into the sequence that we see today.

    So it appears that there are no scientists who would unequivocally and publicly support artificial origin of the COvid-19 virus. Luc Montagnier who lost his marbles long time ago does not count.

    (2) As I understand it the construction of the phylogenetic tree as a mathematical problem has no unique solution. That one solution is produced it is because of constraints that sometimes can be invalid or arbitrary. The algorithms are complex and different algorithms produce different solutions. For example Peter Forster used the method that calls for an outgroup reference which in his case was the virus that Shi Zhengli revealed as 解围 in late January 2020 claiming that it was sequenced in 2013 but it was never cataloged or published and it no longer physically existed.

    Using different rooting methods results can be completely different:

    评估 SARS-CoV-2 系统发育根源的不确定性(2020 年 XNUMX 月)
    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/38/4/1537/6028993?login=true

    我们研究了几种不同的 SARS-CoV-2 树根策略,并为所有方法提供了统计不确定性的度量。 我们表明基于分子钟的方法倾向于将根置于 B 进化枝中,而基于外群根的方法倾向于将根置于 A 进化枝中。

    先前的分析对系统发育的根源得出了不同的结论。 尽管使用外群的分析达到了一个位置(Shen et al. 2020; Tang et al. 2020; Yu et al. 2020; Zhang et al. 2020),但使用中点生根的分析达到了另一个位置(Li、Zai、Zhao,等人 2020;Li、Zai、Wang 等人 2020 年;Nie 等人 2020 年),还有其他使用贝叶斯分子钟的分析已经达到了根的不同位置(Benvenuto 等人 2020;Giovanetti 等人. 2020;Lemey 等人,2020 年;Li, Li 等人,2020 年)。

    Molecular clock method places the age of the rood in mid October 2019 while the outgroup rooting method places it in mid August 2019. The latter is similar to Peter Forster’s result.

    One reason that you won’t get biologists discussing too much the phylogenetic tree ambiguities is because the practitioners do not understand methodology too well. They use mathematical idiot proofed packages that were written by mathematicians.

    • 巨魔: Alfred
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    , @Alfred
  21. Anon[994]• 免责声明 说:

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/fake-or-true-patents-filed-in-america-as-far-back-as-2002-concerning-sars-cov-2-coronavirus-who-really-created-the-pandemic-fact-checkers-needed

    Senator Rand Paul along with other fact checkers need to check on these following patents that can be found in the official site of the American Patent Office. https://www.uspto.gov/

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    Go to this section of their website and key in the following patent numbers: https://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm

    Patent Number: 7279327
    https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7279327.PN.&OS=PN/7279327&RS=PN/7279327

    This is a SARS-Cov-2 patent filed in April 2002 by researchers from University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill University and also Ralph Baric for a “an infectious, replication defective, coronavirus particle, that specifically targets lung epithelial cells wherein said cell is a coronavirus permissive cell…..” This virus was genetically modified to infect humans more effectively! The research and development of this research was funded by Dr Anthony Fauci from the NIH! There were claims that this research was initiated to develop HIV vaccines using coronaviruses as vectors. However the research deployed genetically modifying platforms to enhance the coronavirus to infect human cells using the ACE2 receptors!

    Patent Number: 7220852
    ;p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7220852.PN.&OS=PN/7220852&RS=PN/7220852″>https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7220852.PN.&OS=PN/7220852&RS=PN/7220852

    Patent filed in April 2003 by US CDC for the SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 genome. (Note that American laws do not allow a naturally occurring virus to be patented!)

    Patent Number: 46592703P and 776521 concerning the SARS-CoV-2 were classified by the CIA and masked in the last 24 hours! (These patents cover about PC RCT testing platforms for SARS-CoV-2!)

  22. From the first, there had been three plausible origins for the disease. Covid was either a natural virus, a Chinese virus, or an American virus. But although our media has wildly swung between the first and second possibilities, the third has been entirely excluded from consideration, with those who suggest it completely ignored.

    No, there have been two plausible origins for the disease. Your “third” option has been “ignored”, because it is absurd.

    Using the world’s most contagious virus as a bioweapon, against your biggest trade partner, and keeping borders open long after it has been discovered, and preparing in no other way, is utterly implausible behaviour.

  23. utu 说:

    That viruses escape from labs or are deliberately released there is a precedence in Russia:

    The Reemergent 1977 H1N1 Strain and the Gain-of-Function Debate (2015 Jul-Aug)
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4542197/

    The 1977-1978 influenza epidemic was probably not a natural event, as the genetic sequence of the virus was nearly identical to the sequences of decades-old strains.

    In 1977, an H1N1 influenza virus appeared and circled the globe. Colloquially referred to as the “Russian flu,” as the USSR was the first to report the outbreak to the World Health Organization (WHO), the 1977 strain was actually isolated in Tientsin, Liaoning, and Jilin, China, almost simultaneously in May of that year.

    Indeed, outbreaks of A/USSR/90/77(H1N1) in military academies were described in official memos as “explosive”. The Royal Air Force in Upper Heyford, England, was first affected in January 1978, followed by the U.S. Air Force Academy (USAFA) in Colorado in February. The outbreak at the USAFA was so severe—over the course of 9 days, 76%, or 3,280 cadets, became ill—that all academic and military training was suspended. This was the “first such interruption in training due to influenza illness in the cadet population” .

  24. utu 说:

    What about Russia? September 2019 explosion in VECTOR facility in Russia.

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    What happened after an explosion at a Russian disease research lab called VECTOR?
    https://thebulletin.org/2019/11/what-happened-after-an-explosion-at-a-russian-disease-research-lab-called-vector/

    The World Health Organization-led international inspection team last visited VECTOR in February 2019, and while the report from the inspection is still in review, previous inspection reports have found that VECTOR meets international standards of biosafety and biosecurity for smallpox research.

    Today, research at VECTOR is focused on studying the properties of highly contagious pathogens like HIV, Marburg, Ebola, influenza, and measles, and on developing vaccines and antiviral treatments against infections, including those resulting from genetically engineered viruses.

    Novosibirsk: ‘No risk’ after blast and fire at Russian lethal virus lab (17九月2019)
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49727101?piano-modal

    In May 2004 a scientist working in a Vektor lab at Koltsovo died after accidentally jabbing her left hand with a syringe containing Ebola.

    Kommersant described the facility as a “military installation”, surrounded by a barbed-wire fence and armed guards in watchtowers.

    Tailored intelligence to detect unusual epidemic activity following the explosion at Vector, Russia (31年2020月XNUMX日)
    C Raina MacIntyre , Xin Chen, Mohana Kunasekaran, Anjali Kannan, Veethika Nayak, Khulan Bayaraa, Elena Sitnikova, Phi Yen Nguyen, Tracey German
    https://jglobalbiosecurity.com/articles/10.31646/gbio.85/

    There were some unexplained outbreaks in Russia in the three months following the explosion.

    We detected an accidental release of brucella from a laboratory in China in early December 2019 and two reports of severe pneumonia prior to official reports, which could have been early COVID-19 cases.

    C Raina MacIntyre wrote paper on epidemiology of MERS that according to her strongly suggested artificial origins.

    • 回复: @anonym25
  25. 与该主题有些相关,但老实说,COVID 并不是什么大问题。 是的,它是一种全球性病毒,但老实说,它太无效了,不能成为生物武器或严重的流行病。 它距离首次亮相还有 1.5 年左右,并且在可预见的未来将继续存在。 每一种病毒都是如此。

    每一种病毒都会继续存在。 SARS 和埃博拉病毒并没有消失。 随着时间的推移,每种病毒都会变异成良性形式,或者人们只是对它产生免疫力。

    然而,对这种轻微疾病的反应如此极端,以至于令人难以置信并引起怀疑。

    每年有数百万人死于流感,但整个经济并没有关闭,你也不会因此被迫接种实验性疫苗。

    在全球 3.9 亿人口中,新冠病毒在两年内杀死了 7.9 万人。 那是 0498% 的全球人口在 18 个月内死亡。

    相比之下,1918 年西班牙流感大流行在 50 个月内造成 26 万人死亡。 当时的全球人口为 1.8 亿,这意味着它在 2.77 个月内杀死了世界人口的 26%。

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    它是一种比 Covid 更致命的病毒,但它并没有导致大规模封锁和经济停摆。 政府和大型企业没有推出实验性疫苗并强迫人们接受它。

    COVID属于可接受风险的标准。 是的,它会导致死亡,但可能性很小,可以冒险。 就像飞机事故一样。 风险是存在的,但它足够低,无论如何都可以继续正常进行。

    95% 的死者年龄在 60 岁以上,并且已经患有合并症。 绝大多数死亡也发生在肥胖者身上。 这意味着那些不老不病的人几乎没有什么可害怕的。 这是一个可以接受的风险。

    而就疫苗而言,研制出一种安全的疫苗并完成所有试验所需的平均时间为10年。 然而,据说新冠疫苗在短短两年内就能发挥作用? 辉瑞疫苗甚至还没有完成第 3 阶段的试验。

    他们研究了流感疫苗 60 年,结果产品的有效率只有 50%。 但不知何故,两年内匆忙接种的疫苗有 99% 的效果? 您知道现在英格兰受影响的大多数人是接种疫苗的人吗?

    这种病毒狂热真正揭示了人的两件事:

    A. 受过教育的中产阶级是被洗脑的布偶,他们会相信媒体告诉他们的任何事情。

    B. 资产阶级自恋。 现代职业阶级是如此舒适和厌恶危险,以至于他们会为最轻微的风险而生不如死。

    在最好的情况下,这是一次公司现金攫取,其中人们被用作豚鼠。 最坏的情况太可怕了,无法言说。

    • 同意: Carroll Price, acementhead
    • 回复: @Dumbo
    , @MarkU
  26. Half Back 说:

    Good article Ron. You never get a smoking gun- so you must see whats a best fit.

  27. anonym25 说:

    Also, the ex-MI6 director Richard Dearlove jumped in the controversy pointing to the Wuhan lab leak back in may – june 2020. It is precisely him who delivered fake evidence to the Bush administration to justify the Iraq war in 2003. All the ingredients for another false flag operation are present and yet no one has taken that into account here in the west. Furthermore, the Wuhan lab leak theory is now prevalent among US citizens without even questioning the motivation behind this abrupt switch.

    Similarly, Murdoch’s media empire and other English tabloids, such as The Sun, The Daily Maily and the Times, have been relentless in blaming China for the virus since day one, deforming people’s perception in order to manufacture consent. And the western media have with unswerving fealty embraced in lockstep the Anglo-Saxon narrative while they have crushed dissent that strayed from the adopted official storyline with deadly efficiency. Meanwhile, the China propaganda has been lackluster and has even encouraged some to consider their views towards China in a negative light.

    If I may politely suggest to Ron Unz, he should seriously contemplate a collaboration between the usual suspects in this sordid affair, that is, the five-eyes nations, not only the US, and Israel because they’ve been scratching each other’s back to protect any suspicions that could hint at their involvement.

  28. While no-one can deny the existence of biological warfare and the research thereinto, I shall await the fullfilment of Koch/Rivers’s Postulate/s before I accept in the possibility that this Covert1984 scamdemic exists anywhere outside of computer simulations. Instead I reflect that Coca Cola \$cie recently replaced a lot of sugar with aspartame* to circumvent sugar taxes. Compare the “symptom list” with covidiocy…another brand new “additive” being investigated.

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    This whole mess revolves mainly around mass psychology, even their “scientific consensus” papers are written by professional disseminators; psychologsts and oncologists and economists.
    I admit to doing the author the disservice of skimming those parts familiar from his earlier work, which I did read. If I missed the part where he pointed out the symbology and modus operandus of the Protocols of Zion, I apologise.
    To sum: This is a Virtual Reality pandemic being exploited to furtherance of The Protocols. All the “solutions” we are being offered is in the spirit of the crowning of the One King. Hell, the Rockefeller Institute even “predict” that we will “arise spontaneously after 13 years of the pandemic 响应 …” against the tyrranical rule our leaders usurped unto themselves in 响应 to the ‘pandemic’.
    Just like The Protocols demand:
    P3v15: “Ever since that time we have been leading the peoples from one disenchantment to another, so that in the end they should turn also from us in favour of that king-despot …whom we are preparing for the world.”
    Notice how the Baal Gateses and Klaus Schwabs suddenly became universally hated? Suddenly “we know” who is funding all that dangerous research, and profiting thereby…suddenly Palestinian lives matter.

  29. These articles have established our publication as one of the very few venues open to such controversial ideas.

    … and you are to be commended for your courage in daring to speak out.

    …there exists strong even overwhelming evidence that the worldwide Covid epidemic was caused by an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), probably by rogue elements of our national security establishment associated with the Deep State Neocons near the top of the Trump Administration.

    IMO you are spot-on with this assessment – if you need a nasty bug to screw over a strategic competitor with plausible deniability, who you gonna call?

    Of course, that deniability becomes less plausible when you have a massive military-industrial network of bioweapon labs sprinkled all around the world and especially concentrated around the borders of your strategic competitors.

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    According to our standard timeline, the Covid virus probably first appeared in Wuhan between mid-October and mid-November of 2019…

    It’s around this area that your otherwise compelling and admittedly very comprehensive analysis seems to encounter a blind spot. I sense an elephant sitting quietly in a dark corner of the room, seemingly unnoticed and entirely disregarded, even deliberately ignored, by the investigative sleuth.

    Please be warned that discussion of Flu Hoaxery, anti-Vaxxery, unorthodox medical cures, or similar tangential issues are likely to be regarded as seriously off-topic…

    Your analysis does make an attempt (and a persuasive one, I might add) to correlate motive with both the means and incriminating evidence to finger elements of the American establishment for the Corona Chan “pandemic” – to quote once more:

    …probably by rogue elements of our national security establishment associated with the Deep State Neocons near the top of the Trump Administration.

    So consideration of “motive and means” (and presumably, opportunity) is an important part of your analysis on the origins of Corona Chan. It’s an on-topic area for this subject.

    According to our standard timeline, the Covid virus probably first appeared in Wuhan between mid-October and mid-November of 2019…

    Consider Event 201, a “coronavirus pandemic” simulation conducted on 18 October 2019 by the Davos crowd, most specifically by the Gates’ Foundation and the World Economic Forum and a gaggle of effectively subordinate medical and regulatory agencies from around the world.

    The near-universally coordinated policy response of the Western world to Corona Chan now has us marching in lockstep towards Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset.

    For the teeming lemmings trapped in this madness all across the Western world, our real and present danger is being forcefully poisoned by bioweapons disguised as “vaccines”, while being herded into a dystopian future where everyone is microchipped, and to quote Uncle Klaus, “we will all own nothing and be happy”.

    In considering the means, motives and opportunities for the genesis and propagation of Corona Chan around the planet, the pool of suspects is expansive. The bioweapon labs provide the means – to both the Neocons and the Globalists like creepy Bill and Uncle Klaus, and let’s not overlook that creepy Bill’s Mini-Me Fauci has been up to his neck in (plausibly deniable) bioweapons research.

    As to the underlying purpose of Corona Chan, whose agenda is actually in play – the Neocons or the Globalists? Wheels within wheels.

    • 谢谢: Kali
  30. Another exceptionally well put together article from Ron Unz although I suspect a dinner conversation with him would tend to be a tedious affair.

    • 哈哈: Carroll Price
  31. 起初我相信COVID是美国开发的一种用于削弱中国的生物武器。 但现在这个理论似乎不再合理了。

    第一,如果是这样,美国将其视为生化武器,为什么不在 1 年 2020 月或 XNUMX 月关闭与中国的旅行? 特朗普提出了这个建议,他们以法西斯主义以及边界如何显然不能阻止疾病的指责作为回应。

    如果真的是这把可怕的武器,那么年纪大得不成比例的美国精英应该比任何人都害怕它。 他们会愿意一有机会就关闭边界。

    其次,如果该计划是要放慢中国的步伐或建立反对它的全球共识,那么美国精英会以新冠病毒为借口寻求与中国脱钩是合乎逻辑的。 他们会称中国邪恶的共产主义者试图摧毁世界经济并制裁她或对她征收关税。

    相反,情况正好相反。 美中贸易创下历史新高,拥有世界的犹太银行贝莱德正在中国以前不透明的市场取得巨大突破。

    https://www.silkroadbriefing.com/news/2020/09/18/foreign-investment-into-china-increases-by-us90-billion-in-2020-ytd/

    https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/blackrock-wins-chinese-regulatory-approval-onshore-mutual-fund-business-2021-06-11/

    这是中共的“爱国者”为拉里·芬克(Larry Fink)掠夺价值 15 万亿美元的中国储蓄开了绿灯。

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-11/blackrock-receives-nod-to-start-china-mutual-fund-business#:~:text=Investable%20assets%20in%20China%20are,globally%20as%20of%20March%2031.

    美国与中国的贸易逆差在新冠病毒大流行期间有所增长,而不是缩小。 这是怎样的破坏?

    如果你想摧毁你的竞争对手,你为什么要让你的银行在那里开店并允许他们增加与你的贸易逆差?

    另外,如果你担心中国的统治地位,你为什么要允许成群结队的中国移民去美国? 为什么你希望你的敌对国民填满你的大学并窃取科学数据?

    https://www.timesrecordnews.com/story/news/local/2020/01/03/net-immigration-us-lowest-decade-china-tops-migrants/2804697001/

    中国没有。 现在是美国的 1 个移民来源。

    3、为什么媒体会在叙事上翻盘? 如果这是一开始的计划,那么媒体的合乎逻辑的做法就是从一开始就抨击武汉实验室泄漏理论。 相反,他们诋毁和攻击任何提出这一点的人,并坚持认为这是自然的。

    他们反其道而行之,他们在整个2020年都死板地捍卫了中国的声誉。直到现在,他们才对实验室泄漏理论发出轻声。

    我的猜测是中国人正在武汉研究这种疾病,但它泄露了。 中共一开始采取了果断的措施,但一旦看到新冠病毒威胁不大,就放松了肌肉。 美国精英利用大流行来推动他们所有的反乌托邦项目:伟大的重置、绿色新政、数字身份等。

    很多这些捍卫中国荣誉的理论都源于持不同政见者认为中国是主权的堡垒。 中共是爱国的,关心中国的利益。 好吧,中国正在迅速开放其金融部门,而犹太金融正在那里取得巨大进展。
    https://business.cornell.edu/hub/2020/05/11/chinas-financial-liberalization/

    至于光荣和爱国,这是中共向黑人学生拉皮条的女人。

    • 谢谢: Stan d Mute
  32. laodan 说: • 您的网站

    Thanks for this master piece.

    The reality is that no other country comes even close to the US excellence in the field of propaganda. Not only is the US mastering the narrative it also masters its diffusion channels…

    In this very particular context the ABC News story of 9 April 2020, about a report produced by the military’s National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) which is a component of the Pentagon’s DIA, was a confirmation of the 8 April 2020 news by “Israeli television Channel 12 news” as it was reported a few days later by The Times of Israel :

    ” US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the corona-virus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday. According to Channel 12 news, the US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document.“

    This News story, initiated by the “Israeli television Channel 12 news” that was reported on by the Times of Israel and confirmed by ABC News, has implications indeed …that are rather obvious as you write.

    But what is most interesting is how the Chinese authorities themselves were perceiving the situation. I write about this in “A first societal blow in Late-Modernity. 2.3.3. How do things stand in the eyes of the Chinese authorities ?

    • 谢谢: CelestiaQuesta
  33. Unz先生,你会 非常 对专利专家 David Martin 博士最近向 Reiner Füllmich 博士领导的 Stifftung Corona Ausschuss(电晕调查委员会)提供的证词感兴趣:

  34. @Ron Unz

    Does anyone know why the herring is red?

    • 回复: @Alfred
    , @barn moose
  35. Olger 说:

    27 年 2019 月 XNUMX 日来自巴西的废水样本是在圣卡塔琳娜州发现的,而不是圣卡塔琳娜州。 它有一个 R,而不是 L。这是收集样本的城市弗洛里亚诺波利斯所属的州(和岛屿)。

    Just because the (Brazilian) authors of the original preprint misspelt the name of their own state in the title does not mean that we have to perpetuate the typo. Incidentally, it gives even less credibility to their unpublished work. Just hover over the names of the first authors to see their official affiliations for confirmation purposes. Or look at the very first comment on medRxiv by a certain “Igor”. Or look at the South China Morning Post article that you reference: at least, Chinese journalists know how to spell the names of Brazilian states correctly…

    • 回复: @thotmonger
  36. clickkid 说:

    “If thousands of Americans had become infected with Covid by mid-2019, the total would have reached many tens of millions by the end of the year..”

    Germany had 1.76 million ‘cases’ in 2020 with no impact on overall mortality.

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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4tzAUQX0AIOvWv?format=jpg&name=4096×4096

    Sars-Cov-2 was very likely present in those countries where blood samples and waste waster analysis indicates it was present – in 2019. The reason it wasn’t conspicuous is because it had no effect on overall mortality – as the German data shows.

    In my opinion the mortality spikes witnessed in March/April of 2020 are much more easily explained by the social and economic dislocation of lockdown and associated measures. This is supported by the strong positive correlation between the severity of lockdown measures and the death rate in the period immediately following the imposition of lockdown, and also by the narrow and sharp mortality curve, which differs completely from the slowly developing hump of mortality typically seen as an infection moves organically through a population.

    Robert Henderson, who led the effort to eradicate smallpox, wrote this:

    “Experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted. Strong political and public health leadership to provide reassurance and to ensure that needed medical care services are provided are critical elements. If either is seen to be less than optimal, a manageable epidemic could move toward catastrophe.”

    https://www.aier.org/article/how-a-free-society-deals-with-pandemics-according-to-legendary-epidemiologist-and-smallpox-eradicator-donald-henderson/

    This is exactly what happened in March/April 2020.

    I agree with Ron Unz that ‘something else’ very likely happened in Iran.

  37. anon[294]• 免责声明 说:

    The challenge Washington now has is to convince Americans that THIS time it’s telling the truth.

  38. I can go with your conclusion that this began with a deliberate attack on China for economic reasons. I’ll even play along with your total mortality figures. This all comes off the rails however when we see the NET results of the entire affair.

    Hundreds of millions of perfectly healthy people were imprisoned as if pre-trial detainees under electronic home monitoring awaiting a murder trial. There was never a medical justification for this. It’s unprecedented.

    Obviously our dear leaders will take advantage of any crisis, but there was far too much collusion and all in the same direction. I think it’s at least as plausible that this was not an attack on China, but on the deplorables in America who were about to re-elect literally hitler.

    It’s also interesting that one of the best attacks on the fiasco now comes from The Tablet. We’ve never seen any other cases where that cohort is first to blame others for their own behaviors.. (https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-war-on-reality-gutentag)

  39. Dumbo 说:

    Meanwhile, these same critics have entirely ignored the very real evidence that individuals he had placed in authority had carried out exceptionally reckless biowarfare attacks against China and Iran, with the unintended blowback consequences devastating our own society and killing many hundreds of thousands of our citizens.

    Typical American solipsism. The disease, whatever it is caused by, affected much more than China, Iran and the U.S. as “blowback”. All countries in the world were affected one way or another.

    I find it very, very hard to believe that whoever created or spread this disease didn’t know that, or at least wasn’t strongly aware of such possibility.

    Therefore, the conclusion is that this was not an “attack on Iran or China”, but a global operation from the start.

    In the meantime, while lines and lines are wasted on a secondary issue located in the past, what about the future? Why no discussion of vaccines, vaccine passports, tracking technology, the apparent new resurgence of the virus, all the new forms of control, the new “pandemic society” that is slowly being formed?

    It’s like discussing 9/11 and not mentioning the Patriot Act, the Iraq/Afghan war, the changes to air travel, etc.

    • 同意: Kali
    • 回复: @JH9
    , @Rahan
  40. Alfred 说:

    French researchers said they found traces of covid-19 in Nov 2019…scientists from National Cancer Institute of Milan and University of Siena found 10% of blood samples from a cancer screening trial contained COVID antibodies… samples included some from Sept 2019.

    COVID Began Far Earlier Than We Were Told

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  41. Lee 说:

    很公平。

    So let’s just advise everyone to NOT read this 13K word article since comments about it are to be restricted.

  42. Jamesc 说:

    @罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)

    Ron, this is a side issue, but I am very interested in what was going at the Wuhan Lab.

    My understanding is that the US were very closely involved in the research, having trained some of the Chinese researchers in the US.

    They also funded some of it, and although the amounts were only token, it suggests further cooperation and involvement.

    My question is why they were doing this. One supposed reason is that the US were off-shoring banned research.

    That might be part of the reason, but surely, they had dozens of other labs that they could have used.

    Then, why would they want to share this research with China? I really don’t see any obvious reason, so it seems likely to me that they had some reason based on intelligence and spying.

    One obvious motive would be to get close to Chinese scientists.

    Another would be to establish a paper trail for viruses. For example, US researchers could direct the Chinese to develop a particular virus in Wuhan. The Chinese would sequence it and then the US researchers could prouduce the virus is secret in their own labs, there being no need for the virus ever to leave Wuhan.

    So, Wuhan would give the US deniability.

    I wonder what other people think

    • 回复: @James N. Kennett
  43. Alfred 说:

    The circumstantial evidence suggesting that America (or its Israeli partner) had deployed Covid against Iran’s leadership class in Qom seemed so strong, I found it puzzling that the Iranians themselves had apparently not drawn those same conclusions and publicly denounced what had occurred.

    You underestimate how smart the Iranians are. They don’t think like the Neocons. They are playing the long game – as are Russia and China. They are biding their time. They didn’t want Netanyahu to tell his people how smart he is – like after 9/11.

    Netanyahu Says 9/11 Good for Israel – Ahmadinejad Calls 9/11

    Youtube has pulled the video. That proves that the video was an embarrassment.

    • 谢谢: GMC
  44. MLK 说:

    Many, perhaps most individuals are quite reluctant to embrace any theory not blessed by their personal figures of authority, whether these be the editors of the New York Times or the pundits of FoxNews. Only a small minority of the population is willing to cross such ideological boundaries and risk the stinging epithet of being labeled “a conspiracy theorist.”

    As we’ve seen, there are many rhetorical cudgels deployed, not just the conspiracy theorist label. I smiled and thought of this author’s jaw-dropping lack of self-awareness further in my reading of this article. Exactly here, with this middle-schooler reveal after all was said and done:

    In effect, what happened was a Dr. Strangelove-type scenario, but brought to real life.

    Look, grand conspiracies are not puzzles that can be solved. They are phenomena in motion, as the relevant players struggle offensively and defensively. Thus they are coalitions of the willing and unwilling, with comments like the one you cite from Putin signaling a partial resolve, or at least his part of a bargain.

    If you can’t yet see that anyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic, was committed to “Trump Must Go!” by any means necessary then you never will. The psychology of this has fascinated me since Trump won in 2016. Not to put to fine a point on it, but it’s driven by unbounded resentment toward the man that leads smart people to latch onto anything anti-Trump to make them fell better about themselves.

    If you’re still shouting at the absurdity of anyone going out of their way to destroy and remove Trump you’re well and truly lost. You don’t have to admit you were wrong about the man only, finally, believe your lying eyes.

    As deeply unsatisfying as it is, especially for Deputy Dawgs like this author, accept that high-level conspiracies like the Kennedy Assassination and the myriad malefactions against Trump, occur because a critical mass of interested parties share the objective and are willing to or have been prevailed upon to participate or acquiesce.

    As 2019 was ending, Trump was on track for reelection in a landslide. Pelosi pulled the trigger on Impeachment yet held back transmittal to the Senate for trial, almost as if she was waiting for something to happen that would lead to his conviction and removal by RINO and NeoCon filth in her pocket. Say, like, a pitch perfect replay of the Iranian Hostage Crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection prospects. After that op was neutralized by putting Soleimani down, we were off to the races with the Covid . . .

    • 谢谢: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • 回复: @utu
    , @I'm Goygeous
  45. Anon[401]• 免责声明 说:

    “Unchallenged Orientalism”
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/why-liberals-suddenly-love-lab-leak-theory/277882/

    A Toxic ‘Infodemic’: The Viral Spread Of COVID-19 Conspiracy Theories
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-social-media_n_5e83d701c5b6a1bb764f6d3b

    Methods for producing recombinant coronavirus
    https://patents.google.com/patent/US7279327B2/en

    Pirbright Institute does not have patent for a COVID-19 vaccine
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pirbright-patent-covid-19-idUSKCN2521X4

    False claim: “the Coronavirus” is designed and any vaccine that is developed could infect you with the disease
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-coronavirus-vaccine-design-idUSKBN20W2FB

    冠状病毒
    https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701

    A patent for the coronavirus spreading in Wuhan was not applied for in 2015
    https://fullfact.org/online/wuhan-virus-patent-gates/

  46. No. Lost me about half way. My money is on Ft Dietrich with some Canadian lab and maybe a bit of outsourced details to Wuhan and others. Fauci has been funding this project to the tune of 191 billion dollars since the nineties and more than 100 patents directly lead to what we have now. It is not novel, every aspect of this thing has been patented for 20 years.

    Here, chew collectively on the staggering implications of this.

    [更多]

    https://catherineedwards.life/aiovg_videos/a-manufactured-illusion-dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich-9-7-21/

    One interesting detail, though only my anecdotal evidence. I am certain I had this thing in July/August 2019, in Perth, Western Australia where I live. Nor was I the only one. I know people in Europe who also had the same symptoms. It was notable to me as the first viral infection I have had in 38 years. It hit me very hard, I’m 58 now and had a couple of heart attacks though nothing wrong in that respect anymore. I did end up with severe pneumonia. This was cured overnight when I finally went to the doctor. Notably he was concerned about a shadow on y lungs showing up in scans. I chose to ignore it. He was uncertain of what I had also. Now I am sure it’s unique immune avoiding ability is why I got it but the timing is interesting. There were also five strains found in the USA when but one in China was known by the way.

  47. Rich 说:

    When we look at the psychopaths that run this country, this horrible idea is actually plausible. If some idiots in our national security apparatus thought spreading a disease in China to slow economic activity might work, I could see them eagerly agreeing to it. Right up to the president. Israel’s massive vaccination campaign, faster and more complete than most, if not all, other countries, could also be an indication they were afraid of an Iranian response. I don’t want to believe our government would engage in this kind of insanity, and it’s probably unprovable, but with the terrible leadership America has had for the last 40 or even 60 years, this crime is very possible.

  48. Ron Unz 说:
    @James Forrestal

    Let’s do a quick CTRL-F analysis:
    “Bioweapon” appears a remarkable 21 times.
    “Gain of function?” zero
    “Daszak” zero
    “Baric” zero
    “PREDICT” zero
    “USAID” zero
    “NIAID,” “NIH,” “Fauci” — also zero

    Based upon your foolish complaint, I have now added a previous comment of mine to the “Conspiracy Theories” section.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#diverting-conspiracy-theorists-into-dead-ends

    “Gain of Function” is simply the technical term for the enhancement of viruses, and a standard technique in the production of bioweapons, both of which I had substantially discussed in my text. I saw no particular reason to use that euphemism, although it has now been popularized by the talking-heads on cable.

    On a different matter, Ebright now claims that he suspected Covid had leaked from the Wuhan lab “a nanosecond” after he heard about the outbreak, and also that had always been very worried about the lab’s work creating chimeric viruses such as Covid, clearly indicating that he believed it was probably bioengineered.

    Yet he immediately became the loudest scientific voice shouting “there is no indication whatsoever that it was an engineered virus.” That appears entirely contrary to his more recent public position.

    As Wade emphasizes, none of the major facts have changed over the last year, but very many public positions have completely reversed.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  49. Ron Unz 说:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    I’ll add to the conspiracy theory. What if agents of the US military were inoculated with this vaccine and were asymptomatic carriers of the virus?

    That seems very unlikely to me, not only because there’s no evidence any vaccine was available at that point.

    Releasing a bioweapon can be done much more effectively than sending out infected individual to cough into the faces of random people on the street. As I emphasized, there’s no evidence that any of our 300 military service at the Wuhan Games were themselves infected. They probably just provided cover for us to slip a couple of operatives into the delegation, and have them surreptitiously release the virus.

    • 同意: By-tor
  50. Ron Unz 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Feb. 25, 2021: “Positive COVID-19 samples had been reported earlier than those officially accepted by health authorities in other countries, such as France and Italy…The CDC found Covid endemic in the US in December, 2019, and on June 23, 2021

    You are just an incompetent pro-China propagandist and as usual, your claims are total garbage. Apparently you were too lazy to even bother noticing that my new article included an entire section debunking the nonsense you have been promoting for the past year:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

    • 同意: TKK
    • 谢谢: Kramer
    • 巨魔: Godfree Roberts
    • 回复: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  51. Ron Unz 说:
    @utu

    Anyway David Baltimore changed or significantly qualified his opinion in June 2021…So it appears that there are no scientists who would unequivocally and publicly support artificial origin of the COvid-19 virus. Luc Montagnier who lost his marbles long time ago does not count.

    I assume Baltimore is a quiet academic and his “revised” position reflects his desire to avoid being in the middle of a very heated public debate with international ramifications. When Twitter-mobs are yelling at you, it’s hardly surprising that you back off a bit. Didn’t those emails show that Kristian Andersen also thought that the virus was clearly artificial? He then became the leading figure on the other side, presumably to deflect the biowarfare accusations against China, deploying very fallacious arguments. In this sort of heated public controversy I consider early views and private ones more likely to be honest than latter, public ones.

    As I understand it the construction of the phylogenetic tree as a mathematical problem has no unique solution. That one solution is produced it is because of constraints that sometimes can be invalid or arbitrary…One reason that you won’t get biologists discussing too much the phylogenetic tree ambiguities is because the practitioners do not understand methodology too well. They use mathematical idiot proofed packages that were written by mathematicians.

    That seems pretty plausible to me. However, I’d really prefer seeing some public discussion of the issue, instead of just ignoring it entirely, thereby leaving the door open to what seem likely to be misleading uses of the analysis by highly-interested parties.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @last straw
    , @Sezsue
  52. RudyM 说:
    @Simon Tugmutton

    我仍在通过 David Martin 的这个演示文稿,它非常令人兴奋,并且显然与手头的主题非常相关。 到目前为止,最重要的信息之一是,作为冠状病毒新特征的刺突​​蛋白在 XNUMX 年前就已被鉴定和研究。 随着时间的推移,“新型冠状病毒”看起来越来越不新颖。

    I have not read most of what Ron has written about Covid-19, because when I see the truly global extent of draconian Covid-19 “responses,” it leads me to think he is on the wrong track in thinking this was something aimed at specific nations. This looks like it is about a much broader transformation than that. In general, I have not found 乌兹网 very useful on Covid-19 issues, and have founded myself relying heavily on blogs specifically devoted to the subject of Covid-19. Again, trying to fit Covid-19 into a framework of a state actor (however rogue) targeting multiple other states just doesn’t cut it. This looks like a truly globalist conspiracy. And one thing the American Pravda series has taught us is that while Ron is brilliant, he can be really slow on the uptake. He’s given us lots of examples of this.

    作为最近在工作中面临强制接种疫苗威胁的人(幸运的是现在不在讨论范围内),我保留关注 真正的 新奇的、极其危险的“疫苗”,与特定国家的破坏相比,它似乎更接近 Covid-19 事件的核心目标。

  53. Avery 说:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    {… but the warning to censor...}

    Will you guys please stop it already with the ‘censor’ 投诉?

    没有这样的事情 审查 for a private site.
    Censorship applies to the Government.
    This is a private enterprise: 资助 and run by Ron Unz.
    He sets the rules, which in my opinion are extremely generous.
    But it can’t be totally free-for-all where you can post anything you want: there are a lot of crazy people in the blogosphere. Without 一些 rules moderating posters, the site would quickly deteriorate into chaos, and Ron would have to shut it down.

    Nobody pays to have access to this site, so nobody has any rights to complain about anything. Just be happy that a site such as this exists.

    • 同意: Poco, Sarah, CelestiaQuesta
    • 回复: @Yevardian
  54. Emblematic 说:

    So who exactly within the American bio-warfare military structure would have the ability to organize such an attack? Mike Pompeo? John Bolton? The CIA?

    There’s something else to consider. COVID19 was the perfect excuse to justify a postal vote election. And large scale postal voting with lax oversight was the environment that allowed the Democrats to deploy massive ballot harvesting and thereby ensure the removal of Donald Trump.

    Was the intention of releasing COVID19 just to hurt China? Or was the CIA more concerned that a re-elected Donald Trump would finally make some wise appointments and thereby succeed in exposing the CIA’s pattern of astonishing criminal behavior?

    The CIA was involved both in illegally trying to stop Trump winning in 2016, and then in illegally trying to have him removed after he won.

    Would they release a deadly virus to help cover up their own crimes?

    • 回复: @SkyBot
  55. MarkU 说:
    @Anonymous

    I agree. Whenever a narrative is being pushed, especially prior to investigation, then it is almost certain that the deep state is the real culprit. Unfortunately first impressions tend to be decisive and seem to persist even after the alleged evidence has failed to materialise and even when the initial claims have been debunked.

  56. TKK 说:

    Also, we can never underestimate the shocking timing – unprecedented! – of the American government embracing UFOs and the belief in alien life in the middle of the pandemic.

    Even their mascot Obama was trotted out to support it. One can’t underestimate how bizarre this is.

    What reason would the Department of Defense have to start releasing grainy black and white footage of small lights in the sky 联系? It’s circumstantial evidence, but powerful.

    • 同意: Red Pill Angel
  57. @utu

    … while Deigin (mathematician) is a puzzle but his bio (is in one of my comments) indicates that he is a hustler.

    There’s nothing particularly opaque about Deigin. His social media accounts are open and he’s an active member of the Moscow transhumanism/life extension community.

    His current company: http://youthereum.ca/ (Aubrey de Grey and Josh Mitteldorf on the list of advisors, these are big endorsements in this sphere).

    This pandemic has revealed that there are plenty of charlatans amongst professional epidemiologists. Mathematicians and physicists do better epidemiology, just as they do better history.

    • 同意: Brás Cubas
    • 回复: @utu
    , @utu
  58. Dumbo 说:
    @Caspar von Everec

    “Don’t think of it as a bad sign”

    LOL. “Just close your eyes and think of England.”

    绝大多数死亡也发生在肥胖者身上。

    也许只是胖子应该接受测试和/或接种疫苗?

    Perhaps it was a bioweapon against obese people? But in that case, China would have a clear advantage over America. So this is another strike against the “bioweapon” theory. Why would Americans create a bioweapon virus that overwhelmingly affects obese people?? That’s suicide right there. Not so many fatties in China or Iran, compared to the US.

    • 同意: Godfree Roberts
  59. skrik 说:

    G’day Mr Unz,

    I’m not a virologist. I’m up to your section on EVALI. I’ve mentioned it before, but you have until now brushed it away, but I’ll propose it again:

    1. EVALI could have been a test of a CoV-2 precursor *前* PRRA was inserted = v.low infectivity;

    2. “No trace of Covid antibodies” is a ‘der’ since CoV-2 was at that time unknown; how could one test for an unknown?

    3. The EVALI graphs may parallel E-vaping use, mostly by young nicotine-addict idiots, hence no or v.few old casualties.

    4. Since CoV-2 is a chimera, EVALI could also have been a chimera, containing the CoV-2 spike minus PRRA with some another ‘backbone’ virus including harmful CoV-2 components as a test but which would not raise suspicion, plus who would research lung-fluid samples [CDC, say, and how corrupt are they?]

    5. We needn’t theorise a Ft. Detrick lab-leak; EVALI could have been caused by a deliberately tainted E-vaping input fluid batch, distributed by mail-order, say.

    Just saying. rgds

  60. Stephane 说:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Actually no, the J&J is an adenovirus-vectored vaccine, similar to russian Sputnik.

    It use a human adenovirus altered to be unable to replicate in humans to deliver an ADN string encoding for the spike protein (or maybe a slightly altered version of it) in cells to trigger an immune response.

  61. @Ron Unz

    I recall a report of a half dozen US troops at Wuhan who did fall ill with “severe flu like symptoms” and were put into local hospital care. Then the story changed the very next day to Malaria. For which no doubt they were given Quinine. Malaria is of course a stupid tale. They’d just come from Maryland where they were training next door to that very infamous lab. Similar time to it’s shut down. I can see if I can find reference to this but it may well be scrubbed by now and I have no recollection of where I read it. Only that it was very early reporting. When often the most critical details of these things does slip past the media’s grasp. In the same way back in Port Arthur I recalled reading in the local newspaper both the serial number guns Bryant supposedly used were listed as destroyed after surrender during a previous gun amnesty. Directly implying police involvement of course. I know the journalist on that got put onto another case the next day and never a word was heard again. The source was actually a high ranking Tasmanian cop too. The fact that story got buried so fast was all I needed at the time to know Port Arthur was more bullshit. What is sad is how few people can see past it or even resist slavery when it is all said and done.

    [更多]

    Quinine which by the way I knew was effective and bought a good supply from India just before sales got shut down. A Chinese paper tipped us off. It took me a while to find out what it was about though because the discovery quinine and zinc cures all corona-viruses in 4-6 days was made in 2005 and thoroughly tested since. This info was hidden and lied about as I expected it would be since the Plandemic got underway. It is still online, just do a search and exclude all dates after 2018. A ‘vaccine’ was always the obvious agenda and to get it I knew they’d have to suppress any cures. I guessed right. So I have enough cures for 100 people from any corona-virus now and I’ve sat back and watched the pantomime about quinine playing out, once again with incredulity.

    By the way quinine/zinc is a more sensitive subject even than COVID. Since all bio-weapons research has been around corona-viruses since the seventies, this combination makes it all redundant by my estimation. They certainly knew about it. The Australian mining industry was informed early in 2020 that it worked, how to use it and were advised to stock it. I happen to know people in admin of some big mining companies up north. They have towns and islands to administer and considered essential industry were kept updated in real time. One thing, for all their critical nature. None of those towns or facilities instituted masks, lock-downs or social distancing. That kind of raises it’s own questions. Or answers some. It is all bullshit and has become so insane I’m pretty sure zombies are just around the next bend in the road. I can even predict the mechanism by which they’ll go zombie. While the masks is a surprise the biggest one was the realisation they’ll probably be faster than movies depict. No reason to assume that most will lose their mobility before their brains and being slower than I was in my youth this does spoil the vision a bit. Fast zombies not as much fun as the slow kind I bet.

  62. 美国生物武器(针对中国/伊朗)起源于 Covid 19 理论,与 Great Reset/Big Pharma 理论并不矛盾,也与表明 Covid 19 实际上并不那么危险的信息相矛盾(参见葡萄牙最高法院的裁决)关于 Covid 19 的致死率)

    美国的“轻症”可能针对中国,而另一种“重度”可能针对伊朗。 因为第二个更致命,它的传染性也更低,并且会更快地变异或消失。

    作为计划的一部分,生物武器本可以推动 WEF 大重置和 Great BigPharma 赚钱。

    Unz 先生没有提到他毫不怀疑地引用了 Christian Drosten,他参与了 PCR 测试的非常重要的第一个公式,负责推动“病例流行”和增加“死于 Covid”的人数,因此他是不是辩论的“无私方”。

    Unz 先生没有提到中国疾控中心的中国负责人是 201 年 2019 月初在美国进行的 COVID 模拟事件 Event 19 的积极参与者,并且是第一篇关于 Covid XNUMX 的科学论文的作者,因此是显然位置很好……

    世界上所有的精英都对收集世界人口的生物数据感兴趣,不仅仅是为了控制,而是为精英们开发延长寿命和恢复活力的医疗干预措施。 中国和俄罗斯不反对搜索引擎的数据收集,他们自己做,所以他们的精英也认识到收集生物数据的优势。

    • 谢谢: St-Germain
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  63. Paul2 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Very interesting links, thanks.

    I think it likely that the whole “CoVid” crisis is a long and carefully planned, rehearsed, organized and orchestrated operation.

    I consider it likely there were one or more biological agents deliberately released at certain times at certain places for various purposes.

    At the same time the syndrome “CoVid-19” is often ill-defined, the detection methods used to indicate an “infection” (PCR tests) are fraudulent, and the official “case” and “death with or of” numbers are fraudulent and/or misleading.

    That means there does not necesserily exist a connection between the PCR tests and a real bio weapon used. Therefore possible early appearances of materials tested positive for “SARS-CoV-2” (the virus) or illnesses associated with “CoVid-19” (the syndrome) do not rule out the use of a bio weapon in 2020 (and possibly also later).

    I also consider it likely that — just as in the case with 9/11 — what could be seen as “blowback” is not blowback at all but something that was intended from the beginning as part of the overall plan.

    So two positions which may appear irreconcilable from one point of view may in fact be both correct, at least partially.

    • 同意: St-Germain
    • 回复: @Ultrafart the Brave
  64. Thinking about it, it seems to me that this entire article is just another , thinly disguised “argument from authority” type of deal, where the reader is supposed to assume (because Mr Unz himself does, and he’s, you know, Mr Unz after all),that:

    (1) the virus has been isolated and therefore it exists, and…

    (2) that the US is the sole culprit……

    When, at this point in time neither assumption can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt .

    Although I do myself strongly suspect that, virus or no virus, the US government was , at the very least, a major player in this ongoing worldwide criminal conspiracy.

    But unlike Unz, apparently, there is no way at this time that I can prove it to myself.

    But given the length of the article, and given the length of previous articles by him on the same subject with the exact same primary conclusion, it seems to me that there is definite agenda going on here.

    I wonder, what could that be?

    “问候” onebornfree

  65. MarkU 说:

    将“阴谋论者”引向死胡同

    在 9/11 袭击事件发生后的几年里,互联网上发展了一场充满活力的“阴谋论者”运动,他们认为真实情况与官方故事大不相同,其中大多数都暗示美国政府严重参与了这些重大事件.

    Back then, the Internet was far less channeled and regulated than it eventually became, and few effective means existed for the political establishment to shut down such troubling discussions. So Harvard Law professor Cass Sunstein, soon to become a top Obama aide, shrewdly suggested that the activities of those energetic individuals could best be undermined and disrupted by means of “cognitive infiltration.” Agents of the government or its close allies should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader American public.

    This is something have been trying to get across to my fellow ‘conspiracy theorists’ for about two decades now (Kevin Barrett please take note) Critical faculties are meant to be used at all times, not just when one hears something disagreeable. It is folly to take anything on trust, even if the source claims to be on the side side as you.

  66. Thim 说:

    Short version. Deep State created virus, uses it against China and Iran. While Trump is in, Deep State and its Mockingbird media hold to natural origin theory, so as not to help Trump politically, who was attempting to get political gain by blaming it on China. Trump now gone, Deep State pivots to Wuhan Lab theory, and instructs Mockingbird Media at its various levels, from journals, mags, newsrags, Facebook and the talmudvision to run with the Wuhan conspiracy theory.

    Unz only half agrees. Lab theory, check, but Wuhan Lab, wrong venue.

  67. pietro 说:

    完整揭示 77 年所有拥有 Corona、Sars、Covid1999 及其疗法的 papietrotents (19)。 不自然。

  68. Poco 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s a sino-american virus. The chinese and americans were tinkering in collaboration and they let a little goblin loose and have been scrambling ever since. They don’t really know what to do but came up with some vaccines that they aren’t to sure of either. But hey, whatever it takes to muddy the waters (and make some money as a bonus.) Including half-heartedly pointing fingers at each other. Or claiming a natural phenomenon.

    • 回复: @pietro
    , @Triteleia Laxa
  69. IronForge 说:

    The Incidents at Qom, IRN, may be the telltale Sign that “At least One Entity” was targeting IRNian Officials with it.

    *SARS2-COV being developed.

    *Gain of Function with Patented Components would allow for projection of Symptomatic Pathways.

    *Possibly Leaked/Stolen/Tested_as_Bioweapon in stages to see who it kills.

    *”At least One Entity” determined that it could be used as an effective Bioweapon against Elderly IRNian Leadership in Qom, since IRN are under restrictive Economic(read, ‘Medical’) Sanctions placed upon them by the USA+Vassals.

    *Released in different parts of the World, followed by a “Concentrated+Press-Narrative-Enabled Mass Release” in Wuhan using the Backdrops of City, Lab, Intl_Military_Olympics, and Market to make CHN bear the Blame as the Primary Nexus of the Outbreak…

    *CHNese Virologist who filed a Patent for a SARS2-COV Vaxx in early 2020 was Murdered
    soon thereafter.

    *Targeted Release in Qom.

    *Rest of World left to deal with COVID-19. Low Lethality – save for Elderly with Pre-existing Medical Conditions made it workable with PharmaCorps to include them via the Vaccine Production. Gates-WHO Conference make this look like a “Plandemic Fait Accompli”.

    *All Workable Treatments outside of the “Developing Vaxx” due to be released in Late 2020 were suppressed+censored in favor of the Future Vaxx.

    So Called 2-Week, then 2-Month Lockdown Policies to “Flatten the Curve” here were extended.

    @罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz),

    I wouldn’t “write off” the early findings of 2019/2020 and Fort Dietrich (IIRC, theft were reported as well) so easily. Those Samples should be looked held on and looked into.

    SARS2-COV was used as a Targeted Bioweapon in Qom. That Implies for the Users to have already known of the Virus’ Baseline Symptoms.

    Too Many Players.
    Too Many Incompetents.
    Too Many Profiteers.
    Too Many Political Schemers.

    • 回复: @skrik
  70. animalogic 说:
    @Beetlejuice

    “It is accepted now for instance that heterosexuals have no risk of getting AIDS.”
    Yes, sure. Heterosexuals have a special T-cell that protects them…. Thank God….

    • 哈哈: MarkU, Iris
  71. JH9 说:
    @Dumbo

    You believe you are very knowledgeable? Why not do this yourself and post it for public inspection?

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  72. Tom Verso 说:

    我认为你有倒退的因果关系。

    你写:

    我认为部分解释可以在去年年底就著名自由派记者之间完全不同的问题进行的有趣交流中找到 马特·泰比和克里斯·赫奇斯,前身分别为滚石和纽约时报。

    正如他们所描述的那样, 工作记者非常依赖社交媒体, 特别是如果他们与主要出版物没有直接关联。 这些人认识到,一些错误选择的词可能会引发蜂拥而至的 Twitter 私刑暴徒,可能会导致去平台化的致命命运。

    所以作家和他们的雇主必须进行大量的自我审查,害怕一个粗心的判决带来的灾难性后果.

    严重地?!?

    您认为 新闻媒体 (影响) 关注社交媒体 (原因).

    相反,我应该认为,相当 反对!

    社交媒体是新闻媒体的一面镜子。

    新闻媒体 (原因) 制造舆论 (影响)
    公众舆论在社交媒体上表现得淋漓尽致 (影响).

    你写:

    然而,一旦韦德的文章出现并开始在社交媒体上引起一些积极的讨论,他们 (即作家及其雇主) 渐渐 失去了恐惧 并加入,很快证明这些观点比任何人意识到的要广泛得多。

    严重地?!?

    大量社交媒体参与者不知道也从未阅读过出版物中几篇几乎看不见的文章 引起 练习 影响那些群众的民意变化又反过来 引起 大众传媒的变化。
    .............

    非常低的难以置信的假设怎么样:

    新闻媒体/经济/政府寡头认为与中国进行新冷战是他们的最大利益,他们利用新冠病毒制造了大规模的反华舆论?

    我知道这对 Taibbi、Hedges 等人来说似乎有些牵强……

    ..........

    请注意:
    马特·泰比 (Matt Taibbi) 和克里斯·赫奇斯 (Chris Hedges) 不停地以比喻的方式谈论媒体!
    但是,他们从不提及拥有媒体的寡头的名字。

    他们谈论的是《华盛顿邮报》,而不是杰夫·贝索斯。

    就像迈克尔哈德森隐喻地谈论“美联储”一样,但从未提到拉里芬克。

    社会不受制度影响 (媒体、美联储、党等)。
    社会受到个体决策者的影响。
    对社会的社会科学分析需要谈论个人决策者。

  73. @Rabbitnexus

    @Ron Unz. I did a quick search for the story but no luck. It’s late here so I need to call it a day. I did recall though just now, I’m pretty sure I read about the sick troops in the Army Times or something like that. A dedicated US military journal.

    • 回复: @Anon62
  74. @Carlton Meyer

    Sorry, my link to the mRNA inventor expressing doubts about vaccine safety had the last letter cut. Here is the link to that short video.

    • 回复: @Cranberries
    , @skrik
  75. Having spent several of the past years with coronaviridae and viral vaccine experts, I never ever understood how now one cannot cope with the current status of our knowledge. That is, no herd immunity exists and it could hardly ever existed against coronaviridae. It is well known for practically the whole veterinary community.
    Speaking about legitimate human coronaviruses, their hyper-infective and benign versions have formed, yes, but they return and infect.
    Herd immunity could not have been a “secret antidote” of the syndicate or consortium that have developed SARS-CoV-2 and several of its test runs. (From the viral protein structures it seems very sharp minds worked relentlessly for decades on producing this one. Luc Montagnier was right “a very smart clockmaker`s product”.)
    I agree with Ron Unz that the most plausible explanation is an intentional release to reach some complicated network of aims. I can also well agree with Yoichi Shimatsu that the culprits could probably be found in those nations that have not participated at the military games in Wuhan, i.e. British, Israeli and Japanese.
    What still remains a mystery to me is if those who finally assembled the agent (Porton Down could be one production site) were ever developing a remedy, a therapeutic or an ‘antidote’. The S-protein is a well constructed trap. Vaccines and antibodies produced against that are doing the second ‘tap’ as in a double tap attack. One possible exemption could be adjuvanted protein subunit vaccines, but again immunity against coronaviridae is usually faint and short, even with miracle vaccines.
    So there must be some other agent at the hands or at least the minds of the “consortium” to prevent or cure the disease caused by their own creation. Ivermectin and resveratrol, the two known very potent general host-directed antivirals do not qualify, they are unspecific (though very effective here, too).
    Does anyone have any idea.

    • 回复: @Blackjack
  76. @Ron Unz

    I am psychologically invested in the credibility that UR derives from your arguments as I might have to admit to squandering my time were you to lose the prima facie credibility that you have earned over decades. Accordingly I am pleased to admit that your early description of the ABC report as a smoking gun (ipsissima verba I think) is almost vindicated. I still think you closed off your imagination too soon against the near certainty (and actuality) that the US had inside friends at Wuhan IV. As it happens it seems very likely that their presence provides just about the best evidence that error at WIV was not the cause of the pandemic. (But, en passant, what about the other Wuhan lab?).

    I cannot omit to note that you engaged in almost handwaving rationalisation when confronted with my challenge that you needed an explanation for China not exploiting your thesis or its own version of it. You explained that the Chinese knew they wouldn’t win the propaganda battle so would avoid it but I pointed out that the case didn’t have to be made by the Chinese themselves and you have now confirmed the correctness of the guess I proffered that China might be content to have the case raised by Iran or others as proxies.

    I have implicitly conceded that your smoking gun from ABC Radio and Israel TV could carry some weight although the original alternative explanations are not dead. Clearly the medical intelligence unit could have had enough motivation to make bricks with little straw. But I would also invite you to revisit the mathematics of the virus’s spread as I have jus glanced through a couple of articles from an elementary Googling for the rate of virus spread and this highlights the point I wish to proffer pretty well:

    https://www-wired-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.wired.com/story/how-fast-does-a-virus-spread/amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16260935272180&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fstory%2Fhow-fast-does-a-virus-spread%2F

    In the early stages 8000 cases in the US became 16000 in two days . Obviously the early stages of exponential growth can be randomly erratic. Thus one superspreader amongst the Iranian leaders and MPs could leave 30 infected on the first day and they might infect another 40 within 24 hours after which the 70 infected people became 140 by day 4, 280 by day 6, 560 by day 8 , 1120 by day 10, and 4480 after only a fortnight. That could be conservative. Why is it unlikely that sharing what medical scientists’ regard as gossip some friendly and gossipy person at WIV talking to an American known to be keeping an eye on American military athetes’ health was told “if I were you I would be taking a look at what I am told is an anomalous surge in respiratory cases at our biggest hospital: just the sort of thing that will be blamed on a lab like ours if it isn’t down to the local bats”?

    I concede that the precise timing so far seems to support your anti coincidence ideas but there are still plenty of known unknowns without counting the unthought of possibilities.

    *** *** ***

    I was till a couple of days ago moving toward positive consideration of JFK assassination connected with Ben Gurion and Yitzak Shamir when I saw a 2013 PBS Frontline program on “Who was Lee Harvey Oswald?”

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/oswald/

    If it was meant to be a spinner’s cover up it certainly was brilliantly subtle in leaving a strong impression that there was nothing much to wonder about except for the unexplained actions of Jack Ruby. (And maybe anything that can be made of RFK’s killing, not mentioned in this film).

    Now you may forgive me boring the s**t out of you because I think this link about Ruby will be enjoyed by a lot of UR readers. I was trying to find out if Ruby might have known he was dying of cancer before he shot Oswald but he was not. On the other hand there is no suggestion that he was part of a conspiracy.

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/who-was-jack-ruby/

  77. pietro 说:
    @Poco

    Would you watch what was just posted you would wipe “china” in your attribution

  78. Ron notes correctly:

    “However, over the last couple of months, this propaganda-bubble has collapsed, and there is now increasing agreement that Covid was probably an artificial creation, engineered in some laboratory.”

    Wow, two months ago is mid-May, isn’t it?

    And on May 19th of this year, tired and utterly frustrated by the continuous obstruction of otherwise unanimous UN Security Council motions of relatively mild censure and requests for restraint by Israel for its obvious bloody and continuing massive over-reaction to Gazan rockets prompted by Israel’s violent disruption of Friday prayers at Al Aqsa mosque, more dispossessions of Palestinian homeowners in East Jerusalem, etc., important China media (CGTN) openly speculated that the USA’s ridiculously pro-Israel obstreperousness in the UNSC was borne of elite Jewish financial control of the US Congress, and Jewish elite power in American society in general:

    “在周二的CGTN广播中,主持人郑俊峰质疑美国对以色列的支持是否真的基于共同的民主价值观,并说:“有些人认为,美国的亲以色列政策可以追溯到美国富有的犹太人和犹太游说者的影响。美国外交政策制定者。”

    “犹太人在金融和互联网领域占主导地位,”郑说英语。 “那么,有人说他们有强大的大厅吗? 可能的。”

    Here is the AP article dated May 19th of this year: https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-race-and-ethnicity-anti-semitism-54fd7d8a6b42c6afcfdb3dc2b16f7e0e. Note well the AP’s open and loud amplifying of Israeli accusations against China of ‘antisemitism’ for simply speaking the truth about elite Jewish influence on American politics and society, and its ‘possible’ effect on American foreign policy in the Middle East. (The former Chinese-Israeli ‘love affair’ is now officially over, apparently.)

    I am sure that the two events, the very public Chinese naming of Jewish financial elite and supremacist interests controlling US foreign policy, and a fortiori, the US Congress and White House, as well as large parts of the US media, circa May 19th, and the immediate groundswell thereafter of the “China did it!” lab-leak chorus of accusations amplified from predominately neocon and Jewish elite controlled quarters and MSM outlets are entirely unconnected…….

  79. Smith 说:

    Used to believe China profit from this.

    But with the recent development, with the whole Asia lagging down and in turn affecting China, I fully believe this is an US weapon against China now.

    My only question is how the fuck is Fauci, an american, having anything to do with a biolab in Wuhan, China?

  80. Alfred 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I fail to see how proof of the existence of the virus prior to the Wuhan outbreak is off-topic. Can you please clarify. Thank you. 🙂

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  81. 9 年 2021 月 2002 日,David Martin 与 Reiner Fuellmich 进行了交谈。 马丁是专利方面的专家,历史悠久。 XNUMX年,他知道这片土地的位置并这么说。 他现在提出了无懈可击的证据,将其交到 Fuellmich 团队手中——其他人可以自己检查的证据。 大规模“流行病”骗局和 The Great Reset 的尝试推出的这一部分是 RICO 案例,纯粹而简单。

    [更多]

    从来没有一种“新型病毒”。 从来没有“实验室泄漏”。 [原文如此]“疫苗”被设计成致命一击。 一切都经过精心设计; 西方通常的嫌疑人都直接卷入其中。

    [旁白:并不是说中国人也没有参与。 此外,通过或与[原文如此]“疫苗”(最有可能有多个版本)一起对人类进行大规模生物攻击的其他部分仍然隐藏着,因此马丁提供的关于特定犯罪活动的线索并不明确他解决的专利。]

    采访开始在许多地方发布。 看这里:

    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/Fyoh6Px2bRuv/

    https://odysee.com/$/search?q=David%20Martin%20%2B%20Reiner%20Fuellmich

    任何愿意的人,请让自己相信大卫·马丁分享的真相,并尽可能快地保存/传播它。

    决心接管地球并使其人口减少/超人类化的全球主义暴徒的力量仍然巨大,仍有许多可怕的举动有待进行。 然而他们的权力不是绝对的; 确实,据说他们非常害怕。

    伟大的游戏还没有结束。

    • 回复: @Mark Hunter
  82. @Simon Tugmutton

    Mr Unz, you will be very interested in the testimony given recently by Dr David Martin…

    非常感谢您提供链接。

    The conference with Doctors Martin and Fuellmich leaves no room for doubt – it’s unambiguous and crystal clear –

    1. Corona Chan 是一个工程漏洞。
    2. 陈冠希是故意放出来的。
    3. The Corona Chan “vaccines” are bioweapons.
    4. Neocons 和 MIC 只是顺其自然,利用形势推进他们自己的好战目标。
    5. The entire Corona Chan “pandemic” was principally engineered by the likes of creepy Bill, Fauci, Klaus and the rest of the Davos crowd to both enrich themselves and grind the rest of the world underfoot in their relentless drive to the Great Reset and technocratic One World Government, where those of us who survive “will own nothing, and be happy”.

    • 同意: Getaclue, Red Pill Angel
    • 回复: @lysias
  83. Anon[261]• 免责声明 说:

    Authoritative piece, especially compelling in its evolving arguments. Only, it’s not twilight, it’s the crack o’ dawn, and the executioner’s unbarring the door. The evidence is in. China, Iran, and Russia have cited it. This is war.

    SARS-COV-2 is a US government sneak attack with banned biological weapons in breach of the 1929 Geneva Convention, the Hague (III) Convention, and the Biological Weapons and Toxins Convention. It is a crime of aggression and an internationally wrongful act in breach of jus cogens giving rise to US government responsibility for restitution, compensation or satisfaction including but not limited to prosecution for command responsibility.

    This is a US government attack of unprecedented lethality with the most disproportionate and indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction ever devised. Every country on earth has been wronged, manifestly establishing erga omnes responsibility to stop US government criminals and hold them responsible. Justified reparations make the Treaty of Versaille look like a parking ticket. International legal precedent includes nuclear attack as a countermeasure for sneak attack, and this US sneak attack is aggravated by duplicitous misattribution and illegal war propaganda. This gravest of crimes forfeits US government sovereignty under the UN doctrine of Responsibility to Protect, justifying Pillars 2 and 3.

    This tears it. Does anybody think that the SCO will let this slide? Can anyone imagine the regime that did this being allowed to survive? Morally, legally, vitally, the US regime has got to go. Erga omnes responsibility includes us, the US population. They killed 600,000 of us. The world need to round up these criminals and deal with them. We need to prepare for successor states that will never repeat these crimes.

    Dibs on the hangman job at Khabarovsk!

    • 回复: @Ultrafart the Brave
    , @Anon
  84. Zago 说:

    除了惠特尼之外,还有另一个“韦伯”,他是一位名叫乔治·韦伯的独立新闻记者。 我会鼓励 Unz 先生利用前者的研究。

    乔治韦伯的书 Corona 911:美国国会对巴基斯坦和中国的暗黑武器 对我遇到的 CV19 进行了最深入的报道。 他的 Ytube 频道已被删除,他的书籍也被亚马逊禁售。 他仍然可以在以下位置找到:

    https://www.neighborhoodnewsstudio.com/george-webb-library

  85. Ron Unz 说:
    @Alfred

    French researchers said they found traces of covid-19 in Nov 2019…scientists from National Cancer Institute of Milan and University of Siena found 10% of blood samples from a cancer screening trial contained COVID antibodies… samples included some from Sept 2019.

    Unfortunately, you were just too lazy to even bother reading my long article, which contains an entire section debunking all those supposed cases of very early Covid infections as obviously being due to false-positives:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#false-narratives-based-upon-false-positives

    • 回复: @Godfree Roberts
    , @Alfred
  86. MarkU 说:
    @Caspar von Everec

    95% 的死者年龄在 60 岁以上,并且已经患有合并症。 绝大多数死亡也发生在肥胖者身上。

    60 岁以下的肥胖人群很多。如果肥胖是一个主要因素,那么为什么这些年龄组的死亡率很低? 年龄显然是最重要的因素,即使根据您引用的统计数据也是如此。

  87. Ron Unz 说:
    @Alfred

    I fail to see how proof of the existence of the virus prior to the Wuhan outbreak is off-topic. Can you please clarify. Thank you.

    Your comment was trashed because it proved you hadn’t even bothered reading my article, in which I specifically addressed the point you were making, though I’ve now restored it. However, that sort of bad behavior might get many of your future comments trashed.

  88. Dumbo 说:
    @JH9

    Huh? Are you mentally retarded? I’m just a commenter here. I’m commenting on the article here, which I find is yet more misdirection and avoiding the real issues.

  89. @Triteleia Laxa

    No, there have been two plausible origins for the disease. Your “third” option has been “ignored”, because it is absurd.

    You mean the option that Corona Chan is an American invention?

    Absurd? That sounds like wishful thinking, or perhaps just outright denial.

    If you truly have belief in your convictions, then I challenge – no, 我赌你 to take the time to watch the conference with Dr. Martin and Dr. Fuellmich generously provided in a link by Mr. Tugmutton at Comment 33, and reproduced here for your convenience:

    Dr. David Martin & Dr. Reiner Fuellmich – Corona Chan Genesis

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html

    • 回复: @The Real World
  90. anonymous[139]• 免责声明 说:

    The US already has a proven track record of engaging in biowarfare from the days it acquired the assets of the notorious Japanese Unit 731 through primitive attempts in the Korean war and targeting Cuba’s pig population in the 70’s. There’s no reason to assume it’s ever stopped. In this environment of constant lying, deceit, disinformation, intimidation it’s hard to cut through the fog and get an idea of what has really taken place. The Wuhan lab leak seems to be the fallback position and fits in with the current campaign of demonizing China. As noted, the usual suspects have been assembled to conduct the propaganda campaign. Recently there was a flap in Russia regarding the supposed collection of Russian DNA by the US military which seems rather sinister. One thing is clear, the truth is probably the opposite of whatever the mainstream media is pushing. If they endorse something you know it’s false.

    • 同意: Sarah, anonym25, Godfree Roberts
    • 回复: @Sarah
  91. funny 说:

    Who is responsible for it’s release matters not. Was it deliberate? Yes. The billionaires around the world reaped mega profits. An economic reset of sorts.

  92. @Rabbitnexus

    For American readers, who may not be familiar with the incident, when Rabbitnexus mentions ‘Port Arthur’ and ‘Bryant’ in his comment # 61, he is of course referring to the government psyop perpetrated on the Australian people in 1996 (a template for the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting some have suggested, with the ultimate intention of disarming the Australian populace), otherwise known as the Port Arthur Massacre in Tasmania, Australia.

    A patsy by the name of Martin Bryant was falsely accused of murdering 35 people and has been incarcerated ever since.

    Good to see you’re on top of that issue Rabbit and looking forward to more of your output.

    • 同意: Alfred
    • 巨魔: Mark Hunter
  93. @Carlton Meyer

    Malone seems like a smart guy but no one (including himself) should refer to him as “the inventor” of mRNA vaccines. Really hurts his credibility and that of anyone saying this.

    (1) mRNA vaccination is a general scientific idea. Many people have had that idea. One guy having had that idea decades ago does not make him “the inventor”. I think Malone was a coauthor on an early mRNA vaccination paper from a few decades ago, but it’d be nice if someone who knew more could clear this up.

    (2) To my knowledge, he has no involvement whatever in the development of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Saying that Malone “developed the two mRNA vaccines” is like saying a guy who worked on some experiments with electric motors at Ford in 1988 “developed the Tesla Model S”.

    • 同意: utu
    • 巨魔: Alfred
  94. Branko 说:
    @Anonymous

    Those numbers are misleading.

    I don’t know anyone who passed away but I know four people who overdosed cause of the lockdowns.

    There was a lot of death last year- and most of it not related to Covid…

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  95. @Anon

    This is a US government attack of unprecedented lethality with the most disproportionate and indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction ever devised.

    There’s government involvement, to be sure, but probably not in the way that you think.

    It’s creepy Bill, Uncle Klaus and the rest of the Davos crowd that are calling the shots.

    The “weapon of mass destruction” is actually the custom bioweapons disguised as “vaccines” intended to be injected into every person on the planet, repeatedly, forever.

    I highly recommend all and sundry avail themselves of the video link provided by Mr. Tugmutton at Comment 33 (and also reproduced as as community service at Comment 90). If the evidence provided there doesn’t open some eyes, I can’t imagine what will.

    • 同意: Getaclue, Alfred
  96. Cowboy 说:

    哦神圣的科学,从中获得所有知识
    愿所有的奴才都遵循科学,否则就会被臭名昭著
    因为它在理论上可能会成为共识的真理
    今天给我们完整的数据和正确的相关性,因为我们歪曲对手的相关性
    不要引导我们进入主观性,而是将我们带入超人类主义。

    阿门

  97. TTSSYF 说:
    @Beetlejuice

    第四种可能性如何……它是由中共及其在美国政府中的同情者/代理人联合发布的,仅用于一个目的:驱逐特朗普。

    • 回复: @MarkU
    , @monopduly
  98. @Ron Unz

    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/the-origins-of-sars-cov-2/13441308

    This segment of Dr Norman Swan’s weekly Health Report syndicated in Canada as well as made in Australia for our ABC has the considerable merit of being an interview with our local Nobel Laureate Peter Doherty**who should know a bit about Covid 19. Unfortunately Norman Swan seems unaware of your hypothesis and asks no relevant question.

    I have a slight acquaintance and some correspondence with NS and might be able to get him to read your latest article, or, probably, to have a junior colleague do so. I would prefer to put him in touch with you to, ideally, at least get him to tackle Doherty seriously with your theory. How should I best go about effecting that if, after considering the linked interview, you would like to communicate with him.

    **Doherty, (born October 15, 1940, Australia), Australian immunologist and pathologist who, with Rolf Zinkernagel of Switzerland, received the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1996 for their discovery of how the body’s immune system distinguishes virus-infected cells from normal cells.

  99. izzy 说:

    The half million excess deaths might well be accounted for by the fact that early treatment – with long used and well understood drugs – was simply squashed by unprecedented interference with qualified doctors prescribing such treatments. “Go home and wait until you’re really sick” is not standard practice. The dam is starting to break on all this as well, which is the real tragedy of the last year and a half. Much of the death and suffering could have been easily avoided. The question of origin is almost an afterthought in that context.

    • 同意: MarkU
    • 回复: @Dumbo
  100. Schuetze 说:

    “World War II ended more than 75 years ago, and across the last three generations there seems no single event that has impacted the world as much as the ongoing global Covid epidemic.”

    WWII was merely a continuation of WWI. WWI was remarkable for the “Spanish Flu” among other things. One reason the “Spanish Flu” was remarkable was not only for the way it spread so rapidly throughout the world, but also for the way it devastated Europe exactly at the same time that the Communist International was organizing general strikes all across the defeated Axis and the Allied empires.

    My Grandfather was a pilot for the US Army Aircorps in WWI, stationed in France. So I would submit that the Spanish Flu occurred within the last 3 generations. The Spanish Flu also was coincident to the Rockefeller take over the the US medical system with a massive push to allopathic cures over natural medicine.

    So I see “Covid-19” as just another staged event in a long spectrum of staged events going back more than 3 generations. I also believe that “Covid-19” will prove itself to not be nearly as significant in the long run as the mRNA gene therapy. Just like WWI, WWII, and especially the Holocaust, these events are all parts of a very long term strategy, if not a plan. Wars, Pestilence, and Financial crisis are all components of this same nefarious Talmudic plan, and it is far more than 3 generations old.

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    This cartoon was made in 1896.

  101. All this arguing about which country did it, but nobody asking – why does it have to be a country? Private companies can go into outer space now; why couldn’t a private company operate a secret bio lab somewhere? Which private entities might be best fixed to have a facility like that, and to pay scientists well enough they wouldn’t squeal? Think hard: Cui bono? Of course, there might be certain countries that could 帮助. Wuhan might have been chosen for the rollout just to throw everyone off the scent, which it did. Just my theory of the day.

    • 回复: @Titus Jerusalem Smasher
  102. The science is beyond my understanding.

    BUT, having an arrested development child as President might explain such irresponsibility. He followed the most vicious of neocons when he wasn’t golfing of course.

  103. 感谢 Ron UNZ 在追求真理的道路上举起每块石头! 保持良好的工作,你会到达那里。 关于“谁做的”这个话题,我相信一位著名的心理学家说过“罪犯过去的行为是他们未来行为的指标”。

  104. anonym25 说:
    @utu

    It’s good that someone mentions the Russian lab accident in september 2019. We have three labs involved in some kind of accident within a span of three months: US’s Ft Detrick, Russia’s Vektor lab and China’s Wuhan lab. I think that they’re all three being set up to make look it like that the virus came from one of those labs. This is mere speculation but it’s more than a coincidence that those events happen particularly near the same time just before the sars-cov-2 outbreak in Wuhan in 2019.

  105. 但这里列出了过去几年美国因各种原因死亡的总数,直接取自 CDC 网站:

    2014:2,626,418
    2015:2,712,630
    2016:2,744,248
    2017:2,813,503
    2018:2,839,205
    2019:2,854,838
    2020:3,384,426

    您会注意到,直到2020年,这些数字突然跃升了500,000万以上,这个数字还是相当稳定的。

    如果我不知道更好,我几乎会以为美国那一年就被危险的疾病流行所震惊。

    Epidemic, like when the Black Death killed 50% of Europe’s population? The US Census counted 331 million American in 2020, so COVID killed .05% of the population. And its been proven that deaths from COVID were wildly over reported, counting people who died from other causes but had COVID at the time. People in hospice are counted too. And what about the higher suicide rate from lock downs?

    According to the CDC “Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.”
    More deaths from cigarettes than from COVID! Each year! Where is the tobacco lock down!

    • 同意: Alfred
  106. @Wizard of Oz

    I have a slight acquaintance and some correspondence with NS and might be able to get him to read your latest article…

    As you might gather from the following, I have a rather low opinion of Dr. Norman Swan.

    Dr. Norman Swan, using his national radio platform, in the complete absence of any proper investigation or evidence, publicly ridiculed the very notion of using Ivermectin to treat Corona Chan patients, describing Ivermectin as “sheep dip”.

    Since then, Australia has had around 1,000 Corona Chan fatalities, of which perhaps 85% could have been saved had they been allowed to use Ivermectin.

    If you do indeed have access to the notorious Dr.Swan, I wonder if you would have sufficient influence to challenge him with the following inconvenient truths?

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    伊维菌素拯救印度

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/ivermectin-saves-india/article_14b1f1d6-cd2f-11eb-8b78-9710d864f627.html

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    伊维菌素在墨西哥城和印度摧毁 Corona Chan

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    伊维菌素在德里消灭电晕陈

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html

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    Indian Bar Association Prosecuting Indian WHO Chief Scientist For Mass Murder

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indian-bar-association-sues-who-scientist-over-ivermectin/article_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html

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    Corona Chan – 伊维菌素研究

    https://c19ivermectin.com/

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    Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance – Corona Chan Treatment – Ivermectin

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/

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    Ryan Cole 博士谈论 Covid-19、伊维菌素和维生素 D 的重要性

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/06/no_author/talk-about-covid-19-mrna-bioweapon-ivermectin-the-importance-of-vitamin-d-dr-ryan-cole/

    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/embed/InH89amCpy7S/

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    It also occurs to me to wonder how Dr. Swan might regard his name appearing on the following or any similar list currently being compiled at various locations around the world for eventual prosecution of individuals complicit in crimes against humanity? One might note the current predicament of the WHO Chief Scientist mentioned in one of the articles listed above.

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    命名 Corona Chan 阴谋者的网站

    https://facescrimesagainsthumanity.club/

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    • 回复: @sb
  107. Sarah 说:
    @anonymous

    警察调查犯罪时,他的一种方法是在过去犯下类似罪行的人中进行搜索。
    即使这种方法不成功,他也不要忽视它。

    从美国通过在朝鲜战争中的原始尝试获得臭名昭著的日本 731 部队的资产并在 70 年代瞄准古巴的猪群以来,它就已经拥有参与生物战的良好记录。 

    https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/censored-north-korea-accused-u-s-of-working-with-unit-731-war-criminals-on-bw-attacks-d7fd819ed8b7

    https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/a-concealed-war-crime-u-s-anthrax-bombings-of-china-during-the-korean-war-14782ceb40a9

    感谢UNZ的另一篇文章,我发现了美国对朝鲜人民发动的生物战。 恶心。 以前我永远不会相信。 如果美国在 1950 年做到了,那么他们很可能在 2019 年做到。

    Do you have a source about Cuba ?

  108. SafeNow 说:

    The athletes and support staff returned from the games, to their 219 bases. Okay, I can see not testing them at that time, as the Covid outbreak was not then public information. But then January rolls around and Covid is known — why not test them then? Esper is asked this at a later press conference. He replies “I have no idea what you are talking about.” The official transcript of the press conference deletes that Esper comment. The video of the conference goes silent when Esper makes that comment.

    https://prospect.org/coronavirus/did-the-military-world-games-spread-covid-19/

    There might be more to this than hesitancy to acknowledge malfeasance in early, logically crucial testing. Rather, it arguably evinces an unwillingness to draw any attention to the question of who the heck was there with the team. There were claims that there exists a paucity of images and videos of the team. (This reminds me of the current refusal to release security video of the January 6 Capitol intrusion – – such video what show who was present.)

  109. VICB3 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Would like to get it in here for discussion.

    the researchers concluded that the outbreak in Hubei province probably began no earlier than mid-October 2019, while regional newspaper reports suggest that Covid was already actively circulating by November 17, 2019.

    At about the same time, U.S. diplomats were in North Korea. Per the Rolling Stone:

    十月7th

    After another visit to North Korea, Pompeo says that Kim agreed to let inspectors visit a key nuclear site that had been demolished in testing in May. “Chairman Kim invited inspectors to visit the Punggye-ri nuclear test site to confirm that it has been irreversibly dismantled,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said in a statement.

    来源: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-kim-jong-un-summit-800204/

    (Using my best Leonard Nimoy 寻找 voice) Could it be that a variant of the bioweapon was also released in North Korea, targeting the senior leadership, at this time?

    As evidence, I point to Kim Jong-un and his significant weight loss and haggard appearance as well as the current food crisis in that country:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kim+jung+ung+weight+loss+&t=ffab&ia=web

    The place is highly secretive and closed off to be sure, but this be the result of a specialized bioweapon attack akin to what may have taken place in Iran with their leadership?

    欢迎所有评论。

    仅仅是一个想法。

    维克B3

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  110. Samala 说:

    The main argument about using a virus as a bioweapon is – how do you keep it from blowing back on the source country? Leaving aside the accuracy of the numbers – in China 5,000 people died, in the US 650,000 people died. How would a country with a poor chaotic medical infrastructure like the USA assure they wouldn’t suffer more than the presumed target of the bioterror operation?

    • 回复: @Ultrafart the Brave
  111. StanJ 说:

    Add the Sh–t tests into the discussions.
    ¬Trail Site News

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    June 5, 2021 Dr. Erin Stair talks with Dr. Sabine Hazan about the Microbiome, her research, and the Covid-19 genetic sequence found in stool samples. https://youtu.be/VtMo7r5e7Gg

  112. JimDandy 说:
    @Ron Unz

    “Now, hear me out: the virus 可以 have been created as a bioweapon in a lab outside of China and then released near Wuhan by a covert cabal of rogue military operatives to make it LOOK like the virus leaked from the Wuhan lab and to hurt China in other ways… 认为 about it. But write anything about how the rushed vaccine might be dangerous or mention the massive benefits Big Pharma is getting from this pandemic. I don’t like conspiracy theories.”

    Haha, great article, though. Extremely well-written, well-researched, and compelling (just like a lot of papers about alternative therapy for Covid.)

    • 哈哈: AaronB
  113. MarkU 说:
    @TTSSYF

    Because now that Trump has gone, all the demonization of China and all the sabre rattling has stopped, right?

    • 回复: @TTSSYF
  114. Kali [又名“fb 无人值守”] 说:

    One implicit assumption in your article, Mr Unz, is that what has come to be called the “deep state” operates exclusively within the USA and is not 全球化 在自然界。

    This assumption allows you to dismiss, without any serious or meaningful equiery, any notion that avowed 全球主义者 billionaires opperating within and between national and supranational govermental and non-governmental organisations, businesses and “charitable” foundations, and who fund various “leftist” and state media outlets and health organisations, and who arrange and participate in, amongst other things, global pandemic gaming exercises, the possibity that they have played any part in this current “pandemic” of an arguably man-made and deliberately released virus. Despite evidence to the conyrary.

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    Besides this, to my mind, glaring ovetsight, you offer no evaluation what-so-ever of the very well documented inconsistencies regarding the gathering and collating of official “covid” statistics; false possitives, inflated death counts and unreliable “case” counts. One wonders whether the analitical eye you turned toward evaluating crime and ethnicity in America could be of value if used to evaluate the case/death numbers offered as evidence of a deadly contagion. – Should annual mortality figures not be adjusted for age? Should age adjusted mortality comparisons not go back more than a few short years? Should nothing be considered besides what our governments offer as unquestionable truth? To be sure, there are several qualified statisticians whos work I have read who do present a more cimplete pucture, one which calls the official narrative into doubt.

    Your “appraisal” of the highly dubious lockdowns is entirely without depth or even an attempt at evaluation. Rather you parrot the “Chinese lockdown worked, therefore lockdowns work” meme, offering no details as to how or why that might be (I have read elsewhere that the Chinas’ lockdown was very different to those being inflicted on the West). Nore do you give any meaningful consideration to the devestating consequences of such an unwarrented approach, which will be felt by the survivors of Free Introduction deep-state biowarfare attack for years to come. Maybe even fotever, this being our “new normal” and all.

    Meanwhile any discussion of the dangers of the messenger rna, spike-protien inducing “vaccine” (which some argue is a biowepon in itself) is verboten. Presumably discussion of the impending covid passports is likewise off limits?

    In conclusion, your single-minded focus on the origins of the initial outbreak and the soley American “deep state” actors behind it, as per your original assessment way back, seems to have resulted in some strange inability on your part to see or assess the much bigger picture that is unfolding all around us.

    What a great shame that someone with the outstanding analytical skills which you demonstrate in spades in approaching so many other topics, and someone whose work reachers many tens of thousands of readers, chooses to turn a blind eye (“see no evil”) to the many, many questions surround this alledged pandemic and the unprecedented responses to it which we lowly surfs are being subjected to, up to and including death by largely untested vaccine technogy which many qualified practitioners state is killing more than the supposed pathogen it has allegedly been deployed to combat.

    Nontheless, in all other regards I greatly appreciate your excellent website and your writings on many other subjects, all of which remain of immense value, regardless. I continue to thank you for them.

    问候,
    卡利

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  115. Anonymous[340]• 免责声明 说:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Epidemic, like when the Black Death killed 50% of Europe’s population?

    Epidemics take on many shapes and sizes. What term would you use to describe a widespread 传染的 疾病?

    In terms of a bioweapon, the CDC totals support the hypothesis that the virus was developed to disrupt economic activity – not wipe out a population – hence the high infection/much lower mortality.

  116. Miro23 说:

    Meanwhile, these same critics have entirely ignored the very real evidence that individuals he had placed in authority had carried out an exceptionally reckless biowarfare attack against China and Iran, with the unintended blowback consequences having devastated our own society and killed many hundreds of thousands of our citizens.

    未来的历史学家肯定会将此标记为可能在衰败的美利坚帝国的黄昏时期非常有说服力的一集。

    One aspect is that MSM propaganda is still working.

    I cannot say if this political/media strategy was actually planned, but it proved very effective, and the fierce, early attacks on China for having released Covid achieved a double result. The accusations successfully demonized that country with much of the American and world public, so that according to a poll taken at the end of April, a remarkable 45% of Americans believed that the deadly virus had “probably” or “definitely” originated in a Chinese laboratory, with 74% of Republicans holding that opinion.

    Along with the effectiveness of the rest of the anti-China propaganda, the suggestion is that the US public would be all in for a conflict with China – even more so if it started with a false flag “event”.

    It seems clear that the Chinese are being set up as a result of their multiple challenges to the Empire (ignoring US embargo on Iran, main purchaser of Saudi oil, fading the US dollar, refusing China access for US banking/finance/media). In other words China doesn’t want to be looted (“Yeltsined”) so the US military are going to force them to comply.

  117. @Samala

    The main argument about using a virus as a bioweapon is – how do you keep it from blowing back on the source country?

    This is a valid question when operating from the premise that the villains in this movie are nation states.

    The calculus changes somewhat if we are dealing with entities that have no national loyalties, while still having access to all the resources and technologies that any state might have to offer.

    The likes of creepy Bill and his Mini-Me Fauci, and Klaus Schwab and the rest of the Davos crowd, come to mind. There’s their closed club, and then there’s the rest of us.

    • 同意: MarkU
    • 回复: @Anonymous
  118. @Carlton Meyer

    I’m sorry about my horrible math guess. COVID did not kill .05% of Americans in 2020, but .0015% of the American population. Not one friend or relative of mine died from COVID.

    • 回复: @David
  119. @Paul2

    I think it likely that the whole “CoVid” crisis is a long and carefully planned, rehearsed, organized and orchestrated operation.

    I think you’re correct. At least two decades of preparation led up to the Corona Chan “pandemic”.

    I also consider it likely that — just as in the case with 9/11 — what could be seen as “blowback” is not blowback at all but something that was intended from the beginning as part of the overall plan.

    Again, you’re on the money.

    But here’s the twist – the warmongering Neocon psychos, who think they’re running the show, were actually just accessories to the crime – useful tools, as it were.

    The real perps have loyalty to no nation and no people other than themselves.

    See Comment 33 from Mr. Tugmutton for a highly illuminating video, in which all this becomes abundantly and irrefutably clear.

    The Nuremburg 2 Trials are getting closer.

  120. In terms of a bioweapon, the CDC totals support the hypothesis that the virus was developed to disrupt economic activity – not wipe out a population – hence the high infection/much lower mortality.

    It was the CDC that disrupted economic activity with lockdown orders, so is the CDC key to this bioweapon?

    Also, did the government’s promise to cover all COVID treatment lead to high hospitalization rates? We have a for profit system, and with minor surgeries cancelled hospitals had lots of extra staff and empty beds. Were millions of healthy Americans with minor COVID symptoms hospitalized “in an abundance of caution” for several days but not treated?

    One interesting event occurred when some suggested that those who developed vaccines share their formula with the world so other nations and companies could help produce them. The idea of waving patent rights and going generic to save tens of thousands of lives was immediately rejected by Bill Gates and Big Pharma.

    The CDC has great pandemic powers. Why didn’t Fauci order this done? Everyone would applaud and the Feds would save billions of dollars with cheaper vaccines.

  121. Anonymous[317]• 免责声明 说:
    @M. Le Docteur Ralph

    The Biowarfare attacker is using his biowarfare weapon not just directed at certain “enemies.” It is directed at everybody, INCLUDING ITS OWN PEOPLE. Remember, it’s “Globalism.” As Trotsky taught, you can’t have a Reset anywhere without a Reset everywhere. Or, “World Revolution.”

  122. Alfred 说:
    @utu

    Luc Montagnier who lost his marbles long time ago does not count.

    That is really funny. Luc Montagnier is no fool. The fact that the French scientific establishment is envious of him is a factor in his favour. 🙂

    Montagnier said that the Covid-19 virus was made in a lab when it was unfashionable to do so. They tried to tell us that it came from bats in a Chinese market. 🙂

    Several scientists, including Montagnier, have performed experiments which confound orthodox science. They proved that water has memory. Conventional scientists hate this discovery. It upsets their mental balance.

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  123. “GOF 透露 SARS-CoV-2 是人造的,由美国纳税人支付

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    1999 年:美国卫生与公众服务部 (HHS) 资助扩大冠状病毒传染性的研究。

    2000 年:XNUMX 月* Ralph Baric 成功使用反向遗传学(cDNA**) 拯救感染性克隆*** SARS-CoV Urbani。

    2002 年:63228 月,Christopher M Curtis、Boyd Young 和 Ralph Baric 为一种重组(嵌合)DNA 方法申请了专利,该方法可以生产“一种传染性、复制缺陷型冠状病毒”。 由 NIH Grant GM1 资助。 石正丽博士及其同事通过将 HIV 假病毒与 SARS-CoV-XNUMX 结合来增加传染性。

    2003 年:UNC 教堂山的 Ralph Baric 博士获得 NIH 拨款 AI23946-08,正式归类为隶属于 NIAID。 • Baric 致力于合成改变冠状病毒科。

    2006年:中文**** 研究人员将 HCV、HIV-1、SARS-CoV-1 和 SARS-CoV-2 结合起来。

    2007 年:NSF Grant IIS-0513650(意大利、法国和印第安纳大学)研究解决了控制大流行的第一步——关闭国际旅行。 鉴于这些知识,为什么福奇告诉特朗普旅行禁令是不必要的?

    2011 年:威斯康星州和荷兰的实验室对已经致命的 H5N1 亚洲禽流感病毒(禽流感)进行变异,增加传染性后,科学家对 GoF 表示担忧。

    2013 年:沙特阿拉伯(30 年)和韩国(40 年)爆发中东呼吸道病毒 (MERS),死亡率为 2014-2015%。 恒河猴显示使用干扰素-α2b 和利巴韦林进行早期治疗,这对治疗成功至关重要。

    巴里克***** 中国科学家从蝙蝠中分离出 3 种带有 HKU4 刺突蛋白的冠状病毒——无法感染人类细胞。

    2014 年:CDC 意外将工人暴露于炭疽病; 运送致命的流感病毒。 NIH 发现了 50 年前被遗忘的天花小瓶。 奥巴马政府停止功能获得性研究

    2015 年:Zhengli 博士等人“重新设计了 HKU4 尖峰,旨在建立其感染人类细胞的能力。” “为此,我们引入了两个单一突变……冠状病毒尖峰中这些基序的突变已证明对病毒进入人体细胞具有显着影响。”

    巴里克和郑丽宣布他们可以制造一种更危险、更具毒性和传染性的病毒。 ******

    2017 年:功能获得性研究禁令解除

    2018年:郑丽于14年2018月XNUMX日在上海交通大学发表题为“蝙蝠冠状病毒及其跨物种感染研究”的研究。
    此演示文稿已从大学网站上删除。

    2019年:武汉病毒研究所冠状病毒数据库夏季删除。

    31月XNUMX日武汉市卫健委报告******* 讨论 COVID-19 肺炎 – 已删除”
    * 美国临时申请号 60/206,537,于 21 年 2000 月 XNUMX 日提交
    ** 互补 DNA 是经常使用莫洛尼鼠白血病病毒的逆转录 (mRNA->DNA)。
    *** https://www.pnas.org/content/100/22/12995
    **** Huang Q、Cheng Y、Guo Q、Li Q. 制备一种嵌合装甲 RNA 作为多种病毒检测的多功能校准品。 Clinchem 2006; 52(7):1446-1448 和补充 A。
    ***** 杨 Y…Baric RS,等。 蝙蝠冠状病毒 HKU4 的受体使用和细胞进入有助于深入了解 MERS 冠状病毒在蝙蝠与人类之间的传播。 美国国家科学院院刊 2014;111(34):12516-12521。 由 NIH 资助 RO1AI089728 &
    ****** 郑丽 S、​​巴里克 RS 等。 两种突变对于中东呼吸综合征冠状病毒的蝙蝠-人传播至关重要。 J Virol.2015;89(17):9199-9123。 由 NIH 资助 RO1AI089728、RO1AI110700。
    ******* 武汉市卫生委员会(WCHC)。 武汉市卫健委关于2019年我市当前肺炎疫情情况通报[31年2019月14日更新,2020年XNUMX月XNUMX日]。 可从: http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2019123108989

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_6f632cc8d75d4d8c8b90cc749262f4b4.pdf

    '它本来会更糟'?
    ”。 . . 我的
    49:09 理解
    49:10 是呃呃死亡
    49:13 呃是 nipah 大约 100 [%]
    49:16 病毒
    49:17 呃 peter dayzak 和他的小组在
    49:20 平等健康
    49:21 参与实验
    49:23 尼帕病毒。 . . “

    • 回复: @James Charles
  124. On balance I agree with Ron’s thesis that an American biowarfare attack was involved. But it is difficult to understand how such a poor decision could be undertaken. The blowback has weakened the US relative to China, and this should not have been difficult to predict. At the beginning of the pandemic I predicted the US response would be wildly incompetent, annd I was not mistaken.

    There is lots of evidence that big pharma knew this was coming and was salivating over the profit potential. For another bit of evidence, take a look at the 2016 patent for the “prefusion-stabilized” spike protein. (US10960070B2, search Google patents or even a web search will pull it up) This is a supposedly less dangerous form of the S protein which all vaccines chose to use. The background discussion makes it clear that a corona-virus pandemic was expected. Maybe somebody got tired of waiting for it to emerge naturally.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  125. @TTSSYF

    假设每个秘密行动都有一个官方故事,一个后备阴谋论(认知渗透),当然还有一个最好忽略或压制的潜在真相。 然后在 911 的情况下,我们有官方故事,飞机劫机者炸毁巨大的钢柱塔并击中五角大楼。 紧接着 9/11 之后,我们看到了两种相互竞争的阴谋论的出现:1. LIHOP 故意让它发生故意的情报失败,以及 2. MIHOP 认为五角大楼与切尼掌舵的想法精心策划了整个事情作为虚假旗帜, MIHOP, 让它有目的地发生。 也许被压抑的真相是建造者特朗普早期的断言,即喷气燃料客机不可能拆除一座塔,而且确实在其他地方断言,没有证据表明飞机撞上了五角大楼('没有刨床的理论)。 回想一下,LIHOP 被国会认真考虑为“吹哨人”LTC Anthony Shaffer 断言的“Able Danger”。 LIHOP 被压制的替代方案是 Whitney Webb 和其他人所描述的对劫机者的明显预知和跟踪。 MIHOP当然将注意力从以色列的先见之明转移到迪克·切尼的邪恶天才上,就像重置理论指向比尔·盖茨和达沃斯~施瓦布的邪恶天才一样。 对于大多数五角大楼的退伍军人来说,MIHOP 是难以置信的,五角大楼和中央情报局是官僚的纸上谈兵,笨拙的泰坦尼克号无法快速、秘密地进行分区行动。 我会将这种批评添加到 Unz covid MIHOP 假设中,除非我们将他对“流氓元素”的描述解释为包括整个美国政府之外的组织和运营能力。 也就是说,必须存在一种跨国的、不同于政府和国际组织的组织和运作能力,但能够通过腐败或恐吓阻挠政府调查,就像以色列对 9/11 事件的预知那样。

    回想一下,9/11 事件中有炭疽攻击形式的生物战成分,其信件被归为伊斯兰动机,很像 1997 年的 B'nai B'rith 伪攻击,而且这两起事件都涉及评论,如果不是怀疑的话, USAMIRD 科学家 Stephen Hatfill 博士在事件发生前获得了对抗炭疽的处方。 这显然是一条红鲱鱼或假头,而《大西洋》杂志对 Hatfill 进行了讨好辩护,而 FBI 同意向他支付一笔可观的和解金。 此前,“骆驼俱乐部”对科学家阿亚德·阿萨德(Ayaad Assaad)指手画脚。 这与 Unz 观察到的情报行动将有多个后备转移故事一致。 有趣的是,攻击者使用的实际毒株是一种广泛分布的毒株,起源于 USAMIRD。 因此,无论是机遇还是预先计划,尽管 Amerithrax 样本中存在明显的突变和武器化以及“所谓的以色列克隆载体”,但从一开始就不得不怀疑美国的生物战科学家。 '这没东西看:

    2010 年 03 月向委员会提供的调查摘要提到在某些储存库分离株 (B3D1) 中存在被称为“以色列克隆载体”的 pE11 载体。 在 2011 年 322 月 2011 日的会议上,联邦调查局被要求澄清有关该载体的已知信息。 委员会被告知,该载体是在一些分离株中发现的常用克隆载体 pBRXNUMX 的衍生物,并且它对调查没有法医价值(FBI/USDOJ,XNUMX)。

    差不多二十年后,安东尼·谢弗 (Anthony Schaeffer) 中校和斯蒂芬·哈特菲尔 (Stephen Hatfill) 博士作为原始嘉宾出现在史蒂夫·班农 (Steve Bannon) 的“战争室大流行”节目中,其主要任务是宣传武汉实验室生物武器泄漏的叙述。 班农曾在安德鲁·布莱巴特 (Andrew Breitbart) 支持特朗普、支持以色列和支持英国退欧的杂志工作,该杂志由拉里·索洛夫 (Larry Solov) 在以色列创立。 他的共同主持人是前英国脱欧的 Raheem Kassam 和现在 MAGA 社交网络 GETTR 的 Jason Miller,后者由一个阴暗的中国侨民海外财团资助。
    特朗普律师俄罗斯移民鲍里斯·埃普什泰恩是常客,这将特朗普家族与俄罗斯有组织犯罪人物菲利克斯·萨特的联系联系起来。

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    班农已被特朗普政府和布赖特巴特驱逐出境,显然是因为与贾万卡和默瑟家族的争执。 尽管如此,他甚至在世卫组织和疾病预防控制中心承认大流行的存在之前,就利用该财团的资金推出了大流行节目。 Schaeffer 和 Hatfill 是 9/11 的故事讲述者,现在在武汉实验室生化武器叙事中以相同的角色重新出现。

    Unz 希望我们相信,根据《以色列时报》以及 ABC 的乔什·马戈林和詹姆斯·戈登·米克的说法,五角大楼已经预见到了这种流行病。 五角大楼没有选择“不予评论”的声明否认了这一点。 如果存在国防情报报告,那么这将与他们的绝对否认相矛盾。 这表明它不存在,而是他们报告了他们收到的有关大流行存在的信息。 以色列似乎更有可能通过其广泛的情报机构向五角大楼发出警报,然后让 TOS 和 Margold 报告相反的情况。

    所有这一切都是说,Bannon、Schaeffer、Hatfill、Kassam 和 Miller 背后的财团,其认知渗透努力的公众形象,比特朗普五角大楼更有可能存在预知,以及以色列元素。中央情报局仍然敌视美国优先和利库德民族主义。 事实上,如果根据结果而不是某种无意的反击来判断,大流行的主要目标是 2020 年和 2021 年的选举,这将特朗普和内塔尼亚胡都从目前和未来可能的民选职位上撤职。 大流行的财务后果,就像 9/11 一样,不应被最小化,导致财富净转移高达数万亿美元。 正如 Unz 所言,盖茨-施瓦布对此次事件的推演并不一定牵涉到达沃斯精英,但它确实证明了他们的评估,即存在一个有意图和能力进行重大生物攻击的组织运营联盟。

    这个像幽灵一样的实体,一个私人财团(反情报、恐怖主义、报复和勒索特别执行官的首字母缩写词),将不得不既敌视伊朗,表面上也敌视中国,同时还寻求罢免特朗普和内塔尼亚胡. 但值得注意的是,虽然它以杀戮的意图攻击伊朗领导层,但并没有攻击中国领导层。 特朗普家族被感染,内塔尼亚胡在以色列进行大规模疫苗接种工作的 AIPAC 会议上出现了重大突破。 他清楚地感觉到了病毒的生物威胁。

    因此,对事件有第四种解释。它不是自然发生的,也不是实验室泄漏,也不是美国对中国的生物武器攻击。 这是对美国的攻击,或者更具体地说是对特朗普-利库德集团民粹主义民族主义的攻击,并带来了随之而来的好处。 随着工作旅行健康和意识形态护照的启动,言论自由和实际投票权遭到破坏。 如果武汉实验室泄漏是它的“假头”,那么 Bannon-GETTR 财团背后的资金以及 Schaeffer-Hatfill Brexit 的努力为其来源提供了一些指导。

    英国脱欧似乎主要是通过离开欧盟捐助者亚伦班克斯的捐款来绕过的。 LTC Anthony Schaeffer 是位于纽约市的伦敦政策研究中心的首席执行官。 那里还接待了前中央情报局局长詹姆斯·伍尔西、国家安全局罗伯特·麦克法兰和班农的客人,前警察局长伯尼·凯里克。 和炭疽病嫌疑人斯蒂芬·哈特菲尔博士。 米勒的 GETTR 和班农的作战室由郭文贵资助,郭文贵显然是受 FBI 保护的中国持不同政见者,据称是中国的双重间谍:

    [证据]显示郭先生自称于2015年初抵达美国之日在中国被拘留[并且]他在中国之后多年在中美之间来回发送数亿美元据称当局开始没收他的资产,并且他利用数十起诉讼对与中国政权有关联的实体进行看似虚假的纠纷,同时对合法的中国持不同政见者提起非常真实的诉讼,以破坏他们的声誉并榨干他们的财务。”

    这是了不起的。 推动投票审计和武汉生物武器理论的亲特朗普宣传网络是否有可能是由中国情报资产在联邦调查局批准下冒充持不同政见者资助的? 英国脱欧、大流行病和当前的亲特朗普主义本身,很可能在不知不觉中创造了一个寡头政治、中国推动的西方破坏稳定计划。 在中国爆发的大流行然后让亲中国的西方精英和中共免于任何可能的指责? 如果达沃斯-盖茨和大重置只是旁观者,他们也是主要受益者。

    五角大楼的 MIHOP 理论和以色列的袭击一样不可信。 与资助反特朗普新保守主义者和全球主义有关的寡头似乎更有可能成为嫌疑人。 目标不是中国,也不是美国本身,而是西方民主抵抗精英“人类种内社会寄生”(HISP)的基础,即言论自由和真正的选举。

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  126. Anonymous[833]• 免责声明 说:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Exactly right. During the anthrax attacks of 2001 the government narrative allowed that the infectious source material (the Ames strain of Bacillus anthracis) came from a federal bioweapons lab but the targets the law enforcement agencies went after were not high on the totem pole–not the director of Fort Detrick, for example, but rather a couple of “quirky loners” (Steven Hatfill and Bruce Ivins) one of whom conveniently committed suicide (BI) the other of whom sued the federal government and won (SH).

    Long ago there was a scenario floated, which I don’t recall being revisited any time recently, that said perhaps the bug escaped when an intelligence agent under cover in the Canadian biolab allegedly involved in the overarching research chain, encompassing labs in Maryland, Winnipeg and Wuhan, swiped a culture of the bug for delivery to the Chinese and it inadvertently got out. Could just as well have been an agent working for Washington based in Wuhan who messed up. These bright boys are famous for storing pathogens virulent and contagious enough to exterminate the human race if let loose next to their brown bagged lunch in the employee break room. Then there are the potential religious zealots who may believe they are working as the eyes, ears and hands of God. Any guilty spook need not be a top spook at all.

    • 回复: @monopduly
  127. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    美国视伊朗为敌人。
    伊朗在遭到美国多次袭击后,视美国为敌人。

    “israel” is everybody’s enemy. Such a parcel of haters in a nation!

  128. Alfred 说:
    @Simon Tugmutton

    感谢。

    这消除了巨魔@utu 在他上面的评论中写的废话。

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#comment-4774165

    美国专利局有明确的证据表明这种病毒是制造出来的。 在授予病毒专利之前,制药公司已为其测试申请了专利。 这将导致针对所有参与者的敲诈勒索案。

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  129. @Ron Unz

    The article you cite does not debunk anything, though it attempts to do so.

    I begins with the naive statement, “According to our standard timeline, the Covid virus probably first appeared in Wuhan between mid-October and mid-November of 2019”. That is an assertion made before the WHO has been allowed to investigate the many, many documented examples of Covid’s earlier appearance elsewhere.

    Nor has anyone investigated the implications of the 95,000 deaths the CDC recorded in January 2020. Since Covid’s death doubling interval is 140 days, we can reasonably speculate that the virus has been amongst us since at least 2016.

    [更多]

    If that sounds farfetched, consider this: “The Coronavirus might have been spreading quietly in humans for years, or even decades, without causing a detectable outbreak”. Dr. Francis Collins, Director, The National Institutes of Health.

    和这样的:

    • 同意: Alfred
  130. Alfred 说:
    @Spike Protein

    There is no fish species “red herring”, rather it is a name given to a particularly strong kipper, made with fish (typically herring) that has been strongly cured in brine or heavily smoked. This process makes the fish particularly pungent smelling and, with strong enough brine, turns its flesh reddish. In this literal sense, as a strongly cured kipper, the term can be dated to the mid-13th century, in the poem The Treatise by Walter of Bibbesworth: “He eteþ no ffyssh But heryng red.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring#History_of_the_idiom

  131. MarkU 说:
    @Dieter Kief

    一篇论文 假设 that it originated naturally you mean.

    How could it even be possible to 证明 that a virus had not been tampered with?

    • 同意: Iris
  132. christoso 说:
    @pietro

    It would be helpful to this discussion if Ron were to watch this video and comment on it. All of David Martin’s claims are easily verified or debunked by looking at the patent filings. If they are true, as I suspect they are, they bring us much closer to understanding what has happened in the last 20 months. In short, this is a bombshell interview.

  133. peterike 说:

    显然,到2020年再有XNUMX万人死亡是大还是小,这只是个人观点。

    It’s a completely inconsequential number, whether big or small. More so since most of the dead were elderly. Sure, if it’s your grandma, than that matters to you. But as a nation, an extra 500K deaths is a non-event that effects nothing whatsoever. The population didn’t even go down. What kind of “pandemic” results in more people being alive in the nation after it than before it?

    Simply put, the lockdown regimes were vastly more destructive, and ended up not making any difference to the course of the disease. But the rich got much, much richer, so I guess we should all be grateful.

    I’ll say it for the umpteenth time: if you took away the panic, media hysteria and lockdowns, almost nobody would have even noticed anything different was going on.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  134. @Ron Unz

    Out of ignorance on the history of Moderna’s vaccine production I find this suspect: “Moderna’s groundbreaking coronavirus vaccine was designed in just 2 days.” https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna-designed-coronavirus-vaccine-in-2-days-2020-11?op=1

    The DoD had a part in creating the vaccine according to KEI via grants. I’m ignorant on this, it may be nothing, but at a glance it looks suspect. The people releasing the virus would either be stupid or psychopathic if they didn’t take measures to defend themselves from the virus they released. https://www.keionline.org/wp-content/uploads/KEI-DoD-DARPA-Moderna.27aug2020.pdf
    https://www.keionline.org/33832

    DARPA can create vaccines (how much capability does it have?): “Pentagon’s DARPA Plans To Create COVID-19 ‘Temporary Vaccine’ Until Regular Vaccine Is Developed.” What happened with this?
    https://www.ibtimes.com/pentagons-darpa-plans-create-covid-19-temporary-vaccine-until-regular-vaccine-2966544

    Yes, they probably released it as you said if it is a bio-weapon. Athletes were ill at and after the Wuhan military games so the virus was probably there: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8291755/Did-European-athletes-catch-coronavirus-competing-World-Military-Games-Wuhan-OCTOBER.html

    Could more variants that are popping up everywhere be released the same way? Why stop at Wuhan? We have Delta and Lambda variants to worry about now. What is natural and what is not?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  135. @Anonymous

    为了追踪可能的来源,必须追踪其认知渗透附件,或者更具体地说是他们的资助财团,即:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#comment-4775203

    这是伦敦中心的班农作战室大流行病名单,包括 Schaeffer、Hatfill 和其他各种情报清洗人员,如 Kerik、MCFarlane 和 Woolsey:

    https://www.londoncenter.org/about/leadership-and-fellows

    民粹民族主义,例如特朗普和内塔尼亚胡,是目标,而不是源头。

    • 回复: @monopduly
  136. Thank you for this deep analysis of the viral crisis.

    Regarding the seemingly crazy notion that no new virus has been proven to exist, I do not know the answer. The most telling rebuttal seems to be the 500,000 excess deaths announced by the CDC.

    But on the other hand, if a virus has never been isolated and purified, and then subjected to the rigors of the proper methodology of virology to analyze and prove the thing exists, one can make a good inference. The world’s governments need not conspire to reach identical conclusions about a viral epidemic. All that is necessary is that the people who run public health agencies around the world hold to identical assumptions and so think basically alike.

    That they do think alike, as I am sure they have been trained (indoctrinated) to think, is clearly true. They are not interested in truth per se, but in issuing and enforcing marching orders. That’s what government bureaucracies do. They use coercion always and everywhere.

    If this claim of mine seems far fetched, consider other subjects in which there appears to be near unanimity among governments around the world. Global warming, the “science of”. The “science” of Keynesian economics featuring endless government spending and inflating as promotive of prosperity.

    But these instances of “science” are falsehoods.

    I could cite other such examples, but I hope my point is already clear.

    Your analysis is really excellent, thanks again.

  137. Yevardian 说:

    @罗恩兹

    About a fifth into McMeekin’s “Stalin’s War”, somewhat disappointed so far. Although this is due more to his extremely polemical writing style, constantly referring to Stalin as ‘the Vozhd’ in an obvious attempt to bring connotations of the ‘Fuhrer’ title, and his always highly emotive language, which often sounds like cold-war agitprop. I got a taste of this in his last (so far, much better and more soberly written) book on the Russian Revolution, in that book’s ridiculous afterword, warning of a Communism’s recrudescence in the form of.. Bernie Sanders. He actually makes Robert Conquest’s prose look elegant and objective. This isn’t to detract from McMeekin’s actual research, but his writing just swarms with hackneyed cliches, it’s painful to read his English after someone like A.J.P Taylor or E.H. Carr, he should get a ghostwriter.

    On the book’s actual contents, I noticed McMeekin’s tone can barely hide his disappointment and frustration that the allies, did not, in fact declare war on the USSR over Finland, or attempt Operation Pike. His contemptuous descriptions of the Red Army’s (admittedly abysmal) performance during the Winter War, or even the 4th partition of Poland, suggest he genuinely believes that the Anglo-Americans could have taken on both Hitler’s Germany and the “Vozhd’s” USSR and won.

    Anyway, the core revisionist argument of the book is still ahead, and it’s virtually impossible to make WW2 tedious, so I’ll continue on.

    • 谢谢: Iris, utu
  138. lysias 说:

    The LBJ administration got so many people to accept its line that the lone nut Oswald was alone responsible for the JFK assassination by pointing to the unacceptable n ature of what it claimed was the only alternative: Cuba and/or the USSR, which the intel community made sure there was evidence to support. Ignoring the true alternative, that the US deep state did it.

  139. @Ron Unz

    Ron, I’m surprised at you going ad-hominem on Godfree Roberts yet again. There is enormous American anti-China propaganda. That an American counters that by pointing to the real facts is praiseworthy. Possibly, neither of you is 100% correct, and yes, we can slam China over annexing Tibet, and grabbing other countries’ mineral resources in the South-Of-China Sea. But … Erm… America?

    It’s great, your site is great, in providing us with information from you both. I put Ron Unz and Godfree Roberts in the same basket.

    • 回复: @Realist
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
    , @TKK
  140. TTSSYF 说:
    @MarkU

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend, if only for meeting a short-term goal.

  141. @monopduly

    更正 - 资助史蒂夫班农大流行节目名册的伦敦中心似乎是 Hudon Institute(也曾由 Herb London 担任主席)的一个分支,赞助其他幽灵角色,例如 Dick Cheney 的 Scooter Libby。

    哈德逊研究所源观察
    https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Hudson_Institute

    拉迪玛·汤普森
    运营副总裁兼财务主管

    拉迪玛·汤普森 (Laddyma Thompson) 是一位 25 年的非盈利高管。 她负责伦敦中心的整体运营,并担任其财务主管。 在加入伦敦中心之前,Laddyma 担任哈德逊研究所纽约办事处的办公室经理。 Laddyma 有幸为伦敦中心的创始人 Herbert London 博士工作了近 20 年。

    https://www.londoncenter.org/fellows/E4C97AB2-8C75-11E9-A081-0ACD4829D8DB/profile

    这往往会强化 Ron Unz 的假设,即大流行背后的新保守主义流氓元素,并警告说目标是特朗普和美国民主,而不是中国。 有趣的是,虽然哈德森是反特朗普的新保守派,但它的分支伦敦中心表面上是支持特朗普的。

    • 谢谢: Mark Hunter
  142. Sollipsist 说:

    Biowarfare as geopolitical game, sure. But why so little mention of simple lust for money and power as a motive?

    It doesn’t take a complex clandestine effort to coordinate the leaders of various countries to realize that lockdown = increased consolidation of wealth and power.

    An individual country’s rollout and severity of quarantine restrictions could mean no more than how long it took for each country’s ruling class to fully realize how lucrative an opportunity it could be.

    Making the most of a new disease may just be the latest version of capitalizing on new resources, new technology, or ‘innovations’ in finance.

    • 回复: @Harold Smith
  143. MEH 0910 说:
    @Godfree Roberts

    中国新闻社:

    美国出版商拒绝 COVID-19 的随机实验室泄漏理论
    2021-07-09 • Xinhua • Editor: Feng Shuang

    一家美国出版商在最近的一篇文章中表示,与生物战攻击相比,COVID-19 的爆发不太可能是实验室泄漏的结果。

    Ron Unz 在 XNUMX 月底发表在 Unz Review 网站上的一篇评论文章中说,现有证据表明,华盛顿发动冠状病毒生物战攻击的可能性比实验室泄漏理论要大。

    该网站的主编和出版商 Unz 指出,就在中国多年来与美国陷入日益激烈的冲突之时,中国已经遭受了各种病毒的袭击。

    此外,COVID-19 的爆发“出现在对中国来说最糟糕的时间和地点”,指的是旅行高峰期的农历新年假期,以及中国中部地区客运量巨大的主要交通枢纽武汉,说Unz 认为 COVID-19 出现的时间“可疑”。

    “作为世界军人运动会的一部分,300 名美国军人刚刚访问了武汉,这为释放病毒武器提供了绝佳机会,”他指出,称这种情况是“一个奇怪的巧合”。

    “COVID-19 的特点,包括高传染性和低致死率,在反经济生物武器中绝对是理想的,”Unz 说,并补充说,推测中国实验室会释放一种完全旨在破坏中国经济的病毒是很奇怪的。

    • 回复: @Tdstype2
  144. Realist 说:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    It’s great, your site is great, in providing us with information from you both.

    It is a great site, but Unz sometimes seems determined to fuck it up.

    • 巨魔: Mark Hunter
  145. It doesn’t matter if we wear the masks, take the vaccines, or not. It’s all political now and everyone is working an instant gratification angle to advance an agenda. It’s no accident that everyone’s agenda leave us abused or dead somewhere down the road in the ditch.

    Wearing masks shows loyalty to the narrative. It’s corporate update of the Heil Hitler salute. Allows instant ID of true believers. Vaccines are another loyalty test. Wear your rainbow arm band with pride.

    America offers nothing to the larger world community. Everything they are leaving behind in all the countries they invaded since Sept. 11 has been “Made in China.”

    The Democrats hate America and the Republicans love Israel. Looks like both are nearing their goal of a total Jonestown.

  146. Da's Reich 说:

    I don’t think that the ‘conspiracy theorists’ really think that all the governments are in it together and throwing that into an otherwise excellent article makes me thing that Ron will be admitting that he was very wrong on this at some point in the future,

    Most western governments are owned by ‘big money’ one way or another, so for example in Ireland we are heavily dependent on the corporation tax take from American pharmaceutical companies, in fact a full 60% of our exports are pharmaceutical products made in Ireland by American companies which are then exported back to the US,

    Add to that the tax take from the tech industry, mainly American, and you have a country that essentially has no sovereignty,

    Our political class know this very well and are implementing the longest and most stringent lockdown and restrictions in the world which reached a new low today when our government announced the plan to restrict indoor dining to the vaccinated,

    Now the pharmaceutical industry worldwide is owned by the same people as the tech industry (Vanguard, SSGA, Blackrock, Capital etc) so it’s not like the Irish government are in on some worldwide conspiracy, they are simply doing what they are told by those who rule the world through the power of the purse,

    There were approximately 600 extra deaths in Ireland in 2020 as against 2019 and less deaths in 2020 that 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015 etc,

    In other words – No deadly ‘disease’ rampaged through the country,

    How come if the virus is a low lethality one as Mr Unz suggests did you guys have an extra 500,000 deaths,

    And finally, what is up with the desire by all these ‘owned’ governments to vaccinate the young and indeed even children?

    • 回复: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  147. MarkU 说:
    @pietro

    Assuming the guy is genuine, the information contained in the video should be enough to blow the whole thing wide open.

    • 回复: @Morton's toes
  148. kemerd 说:
    @Carlton Meyer

    I could not resist have to respond to this nonsense: does tobacco addicted individuals also double every few days? or traffic accidents, another example used by many other idiots.

    Yet, we spend time and money to create elaborate rules and enforcement mechanisms to minimize traffic accidents. There are smoking bans in public places to discourage people from smoking, not to mention public money spent on campaigns against smoking.

    Your kind really irritates me immensely

  149. harfang67 说:

    温兹先生
    You merite our most sincere congratulations for your analyses if such a world event. Inconsider you like a prophet . I just hope they don’t elimanate you.

    Harfang67(Jean-Marie)

    • 同意: Ann Nonny Mouse
  150. @Anonymous

    Where, anywhere in the desert of fith-rate Sabbat Goyim in public life in the West, would you find a ‘philosopher king’?The idea is LUDICROUS.

    • 同意: Kratoklastes
    • 回复: @Anonymous
  151. Mike Tre 说:
    @Anonymous

    That graph is meaningless without an age breakdown. It’s also meaningless until we have total deaths from 2021.

    • 回复: @Anonymous
  152. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Tibet has been part of China for many times greater than Aztlan has been part of the USA. In fact many times greater than there has been a USA. Are you a fan of serfdom, theocracy, mass illiteracy, nil healthcare, life expectancy below forty etc, as was the lot of Tibetans before their liberation? As for the South China Sea, seeing as US plans for aggressive war (ie LandSea Battle)and blockade were predicated on US control of those waters, China’s response was wise and timely.

    • 回复: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  153. michael888 说:

    蝙蝠 β 冠状病毒有四个(或五个,取决于来源)亚属或谱系。 谱系 B 是包含 SARS 和 SARS-CoV2 的谱系。 从大流行开始,众多科学家就指出,SARS-CoV2 是 B 系中唯一具有弗林蛋白酶裂解位点的成员; 这包括添加 12 个核苷酸(不太可能来自简单突变)创建新密码子,导致多碱基插入(PRRAR;弗林蛋白酶识别位点)。“双 R”密码子是人类而非冠状病毒精氨酸 (R) 编码. 虽然大自然有时可以施展魔法,但这将是非常令人印象深刻的。 此外,刺突蛋白也明显针对人 ACE-2 酶进行了人源化; SARS-CoV2 不能感染假定的宿主物种。 虽然不能排除任何可能性,但病毒似乎是经过改造的,这就是为什么“这不是来自实验室!” 从一开始就在大多数科学界响起了错误的声音。 然而,几乎所有站出来发声的人都受到那些工作和事业受到威胁的人的“共识”的严厉谴责。 如果这些专家只是说他们不知道 SARS-CoV2 的起源,而不是坚决地尖叫“这不是从实验室出来的!”,他们很可能会逃避审查超过一年。

    在一些人给他发电子邮件说该病毒看起来是“工程化的”之后,福奇与他资助的一些冠状病毒专家举行了紧急会议。 他关于那次会议的电子邮件都被完全删掉了,但那些担心序列表明它来自实验室的病毒学家也在这些信件上签名(据说福奇参与了,但没有签名)。 大肆宣传的 2014 年功能获得暂停从未应用于蝙蝠冠状病毒的功能获得。

    丹妮尔·安德森 (Danielle Anderson) 可能老实说,该病毒并非来自 WIV。 在我的科学生涯中,我的大部分时间都与中国科学家一起工作,他们通常非常友善和开放。 然而,那里的政府在很多事情上都严格保密(例如,在公布了不同初始患者的病毒序列后,中国科学家将他们的数据从 NIH 数据库中取出;这可能是在上述人士的要求下)。 当然,所有其他国际冠状病毒专家都谎称“这不是来自实验室!” 如果该病毒被证明来自中国(目前不太可能),那么安德森的职业生涯可能会更加危险。

    Ron Unz 注意到 Covid-19 脆弱性的巨大年龄差异,但没有注意到受害者的平均年龄(以及英格兰和威尔士的平均年龄)是 82 岁: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/average-age-of-coronavirus-fatalities-is-82-pcwqrzdzz
    据报道,如果感染 80 岁老人,死亡风险为六分之一。到目前为止,大多数西方大城市都有(部分)自然免疫力(甚至在疫苗出现之前),只有老年人和身体虚弱的人面临很大风险。 在接种疫苗流行之前,1 月中旬至 6 月期间美国病例大幅减少,几乎可以肯定是由于自然免疫力,除了需要疫苗的弱势群体外,其他所有人都可能受到保护。

    无症状和轻度病例携带者使情况复杂化。 杰伊·巴塔查里亚 (Jay Bhattacharya) 早期因注意到(通过抗体测定;他知道假阳性和假阴性率,因此可以纠正流行病学研究,但没有说明个人)而被钉在十字架上,从 Covid-19 中康复的人数为 10比 PCR 诊断的高 -50 倍(这意味着 Covid-19 的危险性比想象的低 10-50 倍)。 你必须关注 Covid-19 的死亡,因为“病例”几乎毫无意义(奇怪的是,在追踪了所有 Covid-19 病例之后,CDC 现在只想追踪住院的疫苗突破病例。)想知道为什么精英只在伊朗死亡? 我们在DC有很多老人吗?

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  154. @Alfred

    Utu is NOTHING if not a BigPharma, Russophobe, troll. Slander is pert of the job description. I do it for free, in cases like him.

  155. @Da's Reich

    Don’t really think that all the governments are in it together?

    Well, how come Russia is not publicizing the Ivermectin solution, and not manufacturing and distributing huge amounts?

    (Tablets, not liquid solution.)

    Those two, Putin and Biden, are two rats nestling in the same rat hole, aren’t they?

    Or they are equally senile, that’s why Putin is not trumpeting the obvious and very safe solution, right?

    • 回复: @Da's Reich
  156. lysias 说:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    Fauci is 80 years old. Why would he care about enriching himself?

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @TTSSYF
  157. Tony Ryals 说:
    @Carlton Meyer

    The vaccine magnetic effect appears to be limited to the two mRNA ‘vaccines’ Pfizer and Moderna and after watching this video it appears to me so far,to be a real phenomen.The ‘fact checkers’ lie to begin with by putting words into the mouths of critics claiming they are insisting the magnetic effect is a microchip when in fact they are saying no such thing – they are simply saying something in the vaccine is causing a magnetic effect and it is not explained by the manufacturers list of ingredients.

    The Magnet Challenge. True of False? ‘Not On The Beeb’ investigates.

    [更多]

    In my opìnon after over one year of this so called ‘pandemic’ covid-19’s barks are much less dangerous than the ‘vaccines’, illegally developed to combat it, bites.After all it has miraculously erased the common flu from the face of the earth.

    If not for the media,including unz.com and the medical globalists-fascists invading the house I live in on March 15,2020 like clockwork orange and leaving police ‘guarding and imprisoning us for two nweeks after that,I wouldn’t even know ‘covid-19’ even existed even now.

    As regards the Johnson and Johnson jab……….

    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/7/12/fda-expected-to-issue-new-warning-on-jj-covid-jab

    FDA expected to issue new warning on J&J COVID jab

    The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is preparing to issue a new warning for Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine, linking it to a rare autoimmune disorder, The Washington Post reported on Monday, citing four individuals familiar with the matter.

    The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said in a statement on Monday that about 100 preliminary reports of Guillain-Barre syndrome – a disorder in which the immune system attacks the nerves – have been detected after 12.8 million doses of J&J’s COVID-19 jab in the US……….

    • 回复: @Anon
    , @Commentator Mike
  158. Anonymous[340]• 免责声明 说:
    @Mike Tre

    That’s not a graph. Holy crap dude LOL

    • 回复: @Mike Tre
  159. TKK 说:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    IT
    IS
    HIS
    SITE!!!!!

    Unbelievable- the level of ungrateful arrogant crass craven moronic freak shows in the world.

    It would serve us right if he shut it down.

    • 同意: Robert Dolan, Poco
  160. Anon62 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I also encountered that story so can confirm it was reported but is no longer to be found.

    One of the affected was a female cyclist who despite being very ill participated in her event. There were reports of five [??] others who were sick to the point they sought medical attention.

    The fact of attending a hospital does not indicate severity of illness. In China the medical system is organized differently than in the US. There are next to no physicians in private practice. If you are sick in China you do not head off to see your GP. You go to your local hospital for diagnosis and treatment. The claim by US Intelligence {??} that 3 staff of Wuhan Institute were so sick they required hospitalization and this hospitalization is supportive of a severe lab leak illness is a bogus claim and simply underscores that US Intelligence [??] has little knowledge of China.

    Finally the reports that members of the US Military Games team required treatment for [malaria ??] makes little sense.China has recently been certified to have eradicated malaria. This would not have been achieved if a major urban centre such as Wuhan documented 5 cases in 2019.

    • 谢谢: Rabbitnexus
    • 回复: @Rabbitnexus
  161. Anon[285]• 免责声明 说:
    @lysias

    Do you know any actual greedy persons?

  162. @Alfred

    utu is a troll.

    You are right; Montagnier is no fool. In fact, that’s the last thing he is. He was the first to observe that the sars-cov-2 spike protein was genetically engineered.

    • 同意: Mark Hunter
  163. Balaji 说:

    Are you not at risk from the powers that be? Would they not like to disappear you and this site? I hope you have a “dead nan switch” or some other mechanism to deter this from happening.

  164. @Triteleia Laxa

    Using the world’s most contagious virus as a bioweapon, against your biggest trade partner, and keeping borders open long after it has been discovered, and preparing in no other way, is utterly implausible behaviour.

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the robust historical record shows that the devil-worshiping demon-possessed madmen that run the corrupt West do what reasonable people might see as “utterly implausible behaviour” on a regular basis.

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  165. bayviking 说:

    实验室设计的 Covid,经过精心设计,可最大限度地增加经济损失。 根据 Unz(以及 Mike Stone 一直理解的 Karl Malden)的说法,这似乎比自然变体更有可能发生,因为偶然发生的巧合太多了。

    除了 2012 年,3 名矿工中有 6 名在铲蝙蝠粪时死亡。 当对该病毒进行样本采集时,发现它与 Covid-19 相同,但在中国研究中被单独分类。 样品已储存在湖南冰柜中。

    所有这些都被这些实验室是政府对付人类的另一种武器这一事实所掩盖。 就像核武器一样,它们必须在更多生命被摧毁之前被拆除。 美国培训并资助了武汉中国实验室。 在这场悲剧中,他们是中国的罪魁祸首,这些悲剧很可能是从武汉或美国几个实验室中的任何一个泄露出来的。

    如果 Unz 是正确的,那么最终结果将具有极大的讽刺意味。 随着中国继续繁荣和发展,美国的阴谋再次摧毁了我们的经济。

  166. Ron Unz 说:
    @WingsofADove

    美国的“轻症”可能针对中国,而另一种“重度”可能针对伊朗。 因为第二个更致命,它的传染性也更低,并且会更快地变异或消失。

    That’s actually been my own suspicion, which I’ve briefly alluded to in some of my articles. One possibility is that the more dangerous Iran strain was what spread back into the West and caused such serious casualties. But I haven’t seen any solid evidence supporting the hypothesis. It’s unfortunate that the interesting Forster article didn’t seem to include any Iranian clade.

    • 同意: Rabbitnexus
  167. InnerCynic 说:
    @Ron Unz

    No different than the sudden and targeted illnesses at meat packing plants across the country. I thought to myself, “Really?… How odd”. Its quite possible somebody visited these places and released a virus unbeknownst among those working there. It seemed all together too convenient and coincidental to simply be random events.

    • 回复: @Anon62
  168. Ron Unz 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I recall a report of a half dozen US troops at Wuhan who did fall ill with “severe flu like symptoms” and were put into local hospital care. Then the story changed the very next day to Malaria.

    I certainly remember seeing that story was floating around the Internet, but I think it was probably just a heavily-distorted account of what actually happened.

    There were something like 9,000 foreign participants in the Wuhan Military Games, and a few of them got sick while there, which is hardly surprising. Naturally, as excitable people quoted and requoted the story on the Internet, it became Americans who got sick, and their symptoms were Covid, which seems pretty unlikely.

    Although pro-China activists have been promoting the story, a few months ago a couple of journalists from China’s 环球时报 investigated the whole issue and published an article about it:

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1221102.shtml

    According to the WHO report, during the Military Games, four African participants were diagnosed and treated for malaria, and one American citizen presented with gastroenteritis….

    Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital which received the foreign patients explained in February 2020 that the cases had nothing to do with COVID-19, following speculation that those foreign patients were carriers of the novel coronavirus.

    But according to the scientist, both malaria and COVID-19 could lead to fever and some COVID-19 patients do have stomach symptoms similar to gastroenteritis.

    While it’s possible, there really doesn’t seem to be any serious supportive evidence.

    • 回复: @Rabbitnexus
    , @Anon62
  169. cassandra 说:

    This article is disappointing compared with most of Ron’s fare. Although he recounts the resurgence of the natural origin theory reasonably completely, he omits his characteristic analytical critique, here of of the quality of the arguments the nature-proponents.

    A lot of the evidence cited in this article are opinionated pronouncements from experts, with very little discussion of evidence. These “arguments from opinion” are in the same genre as Dumas Malone’s argument that Jefferson could not have had an affair with Sally Hemmings, because Thomas Jefferson was a gentleman and a gentleman would never do such a thing. Plausible nonsense. They fail my own definition of an expert, as someone who has a strong enough intellectual grasp to present technical reasoning incisively enough to be clearly understood. Bret Weinstein is an example. Drosten, Fauci and Daszak are NOT in this class.

    [更多]

    One can argue forever over how likely is the occurrence of an unlikely event. Just because highway safety protocols make accidents unlikely doesn’t mean they don’t happen. S**t happens, labs leak. The only question is how often.

    Christian Drosten’s opinions about laboratory virology are the weakest “expert” opinion. In fact, synthesis of something very much like SARS-Cov-2 was presented in the 2015 paper, “A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence”, co-authored by “Bat-lady” Zhengli-Shi and America’s own Ralph Baric. The work was started before the Gain-of-Function ban in the US, and allowed to be completed afterward.

    From the abstract: “Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein.”

    Either this was COVID’s gransfather, or there’s another ready for prime time.

    If natural, should there not be an animal carrier somewhere? How do you explain the furin cleavage site? What about genetic fingerprints that indicate that SARS-Cov-2 is an evolutionary orphan?

    Yuri Degin’s article still stands for me as one of the most complete descriptions of genetic evidence, and shows why lab origin is likely and natural origin improbable:
    https://yurideigin.medium.com/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

    Our fearless medical leadership ought to be framing their argument in these terms, instead of expecting pontification to sway our opinions

    I’m with Ron Unz, in thinking that the important question is whether the leak was accidental or deliberate. Whether the virus was made in a military or civilian lab, or to what extent those cites are at all separable, is, well, academic.

  170. InnerCynic 说:

    My gut feeling is that this talk of bioweapons or lab leaks is simply cover and misdirection in order to move forward on a far more sinister agenda. It’s the straining for gnats and swallowing of camels sort of exercise. A global shell game.

    Bioweapon? I suspect if true then we would have people dropping dead left and right. And our erstwhile “leaders” would be shown to be even more useless than they already are but the power grab thats evident now wouldn’t be so well coordinated.

    Lab leak? Here again…. maybe but more of the same as above. But even if it were true… so what! We have an all too well coordinated effort to push a narrative based on lies. That takes time and conscious planning.

    We’re being constantly lied to. The navel gazing masses clamor for “answers” but they don’t really want to hear them. They think they’re smart and thats whats going to kill them.

    • 同意: John Fisher
  171. @Carlton Meyer

    The Youtube link is dead now; if that was about the magnets sticking to COVID jab sites, meh. That’s just progressives trolling anti-vaxxers, who have no way to test this short of having a pro vax friend and magnet handy right after the jab.

    If there was really a magnet problem, this would be official medical news as everyone would need to be convinced the magnetic effect is safe, not that it doesn’t exist.

    The fake magnet sticks with a bit of two-sided tape, honey, or similar adhesive not visible to the camera, not magnetism.

    The amount of ferrous material needed to make an ordinary fridge magnet stick magnetically is quite a bit. Magnets won’t stick to the chip on your credit card, for example. An injection of magnetic microbots or nanobots would similarly lack the strength to stick a magnet.

    It would be far more convincing to see a magnet stick to a syringe of vax, as magnets won’t stick to the stainless steel needle.

    The phenomenon has never been verified by any reliable source than the say-so of people who support the vaccine enough claim to have gotten the jab or otherwise troll the anti-vax movement.

  172. Mike Tre 说:
    @Anonymous

    You didn’t end your sentence with a period, dude. Holy crap, you must be a fuckin’ moron! LOLOLOL!

    Care to address the point, or is this more your level of discussion?

  173. Ron Unz 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I have a slight acquaintance and some correspondence with NS and might be able to get him to read your latest article, or, probably, to have a junior colleague do so. I would prefer to put him in touch with you to, ideally, at least get him to tackle Doherty seriously with your theory. How should I best go about effecting that if, after considering the linked interview, you would like to communicate with him.

    Sure, I’d be very glad if you could help get me in contact with him. My current article contains the most material, but given how long it is, my previous two might work as well.

    I’d be very glad to send him some information along with a few links.

    As for the discussion itself, Doherty seems very knowledgeable about immunization issues, but as I’ve mentioned Nobel Laureate David Baltimore is a virologist, and he saw strong evidence of bioengineering in the virus, as have (apparently) quite a number of other virologists. I don’t have any expertise myself, but I have a lot of confidence in Nicholas Wade’s overall judgment on the matter.

    It’s interesting that Swan seemed taken in by the latest anti-China propaganda that they were responsible for the 1977 Asian Flu outbreak, but that’s Doherty’s specialty, and he said it was total nonsense, the outbreak started in the USSR.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  174. Ron Unz 说:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Out of ignorance on the history of Moderna’s vaccine production I find this suspect: “Moderna’s groundbreaking coronavirus vaccine was designed in just 2 days.”

    I’ve seen these sorts of statements floating around and cited as proof of guilt. For example, some Israeli company claimed to have been working on exactly that sort of virus vaccine at the beginning of epidemic and would have it ready immediately. Everyone said that proved the Israelis did it.

    The problem is that business executives are always bragging/lying about how great they are, partly to boost their stock price and get additional investors. The Israeli company never deployed a vaccine, and Moderna didn’t seem to have one any sooner that four or five other companies.

    I don’t know anything about vaccines, but that would be my guess about the quote.

  175. @Anon62

    The malaria call came I think to cover the use of quinine in their treatment. It made no sense for any other reason. The severe flu like symptoms was what vanished from the report. I took it to mean they knew quinine worked. That was before I found out they definitely knew it worked. You can’t recall the publication by any chance? It might still be found on The Wayback Machine.

    • 回复: @Anon62
    , @Mehen
  176. Ron Unz 说:
    @michael888

    From the start of the pandemic, numerous scientists pointed out that SARS-CoV2 was the only member of lineage B with a furin cleavage site; this consisted of an addition of 12 nucleotides (not likely from a simple mutation) creating new codons, leading to a polybasic insertion (PRRAR; a furin recognition site.) The “double R” codons are HUMAN not CORONAVIRUS arginine (R)-coding. While Nature can do magic at times, this would be very impressive…Fauci had an emergency meeting with a number of his funded coronavirus experts after some e-mailed him that the virus looked “engineered”. His e-mails concerning that meeting are totally redacted, but the same virologists who were concerned that the sequence suggested it came out of a lab, were among those who signed the letters

    I don’t have technical expertise in that area, but that’s very much my impression based upon the Wade, Baker, and other articles. There seems to have been a great deal of pressure on virologists to not see what was in front of their eyes.

    Ron Unz 注意到 Covid-19 脆弱性的巨大年龄差异,但没有注意到受害者的平均年龄(以及英格兰和威尔士的平均年龄)是 82 岁:

    实际上,我确实说过,大约一半的死亡人数似乎是 70 多岁或以上。

    丹妮尔·安德森 (Danielle Anderson) 可能老实说,该病毒并非来自 WIV。

    I think the most crucial points she made was that the WIV safety protocols seemed absolutely excellent, contrary to the claims floating around the media, and also that the rumor of three researchers falling ill with Covid-like symptoms in November 2019 was entirely false. I’d take her direct personal evidence over those sorts of vague claims floating around. She was also extremely skeptical of any lab leak and thought it very unlikely WIV was working on a virus like Covid.

    无私的目击者证词胜过情报机构和激进组织宣传的模糊谣言。

    • 回复: @michael888
  177. @Ron Unz

    I still have my suspicions, mainly because it was so early when I read this. I first read about it in January. I’d never heard of the Wuhan Games prior to that and the article I read referred to a report from late in 2019. I followed the reference and that was to an Army journal I’m even more certain today. The original story and the update next day were from before the declared pandemic. I was buying the whole story having nothing else at the start and do have a lot of science including virology in my swag. I took notice not because it was once again, from a CRISPR lab, which I stated in January was not debatable for the same reasons Professor Luc Montagnier said the same 6 months later. It was in fact the tone of the media reporting and sudden focus of the political world which really got my full attention. It seemed way bigger in some way than SARS or Bird Flu for which I went back to sleep after a couple of weeks. I was soaking up everything, including every theory or supposed inside story. I watched the development of some of these and how some failed to gain traction while others got the royal treatment. Even if that means media debunking. That is a sign usually they want people to grab onto that if they don’t buy the official narrative. The Chinese didn’t introduce any new ideas as I saw it, instead they adopted some of what was already being said by others. They began implying a US source rather clumsily and with entirely different emphasis before settling on what was already circulating in this regard. The analysis by Reiner Fuellmich’s company as told here I think ends the debate about where it was made and by who though for the record. There’s a lot in this Ron, if you’ve not seen it I suggest you do. This is the bomb.
    https://catherineedwards.life/aiovg_videos/a-manufactured-illusion-dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich-9-7-21/

    I am not any great shakes in microbiology but it is so obvious this is man made, any professional saying otherwise is simply lying or a fraud.

  178. Ron Unz 说:
    @Sparkylyle92

    On balance I agree with Ron’s thesis that an American biowarfare attack was involved. But it is difficult to understand how such a poor decision could be undertaken. The blowback has weakened the US relative to China, and this should not have been difficult to predict. At the beginning of the pandemic I predicted the US response would be wildly incompetent, annd I was not mistaken.

    Actually, international organized ranked America and the UK being the best prepared to cope with an epidemic, while China was considered much more vulnerable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/america-first-in-epidemic-preparedness/

    The US is really great at propaganda, but unfortunately its officials often tend to believe it.

    • 回复: @Tdstype2
  179. @Caspar von Everec

    第一,如果是这样,美国将其视为生化武器,为什么不在 1 年 2020 月或 XNUMX 月关闭与中国的旅行? 特朗普提出了这个建议,他们以法西斯主义以及边界如何显然不能阻止疾病的指责作为回应。

    Trump did impose some travel restrictions on travelers from mainland China on Feb. 2, 2020. Most likely he couldn’t do anything more drastic because the virus was apparently already in the U.S. and he needed to admit some potentially infected travelers for the sake of plausible deniability.

    如果真的是这把可怕的武器,那么年纪大得不成比例的美国精英应该比任何人都害怕它。 他们会愿意一有机会就关闭边界。

    The “elite” are not reasonable people but demon-possessed devil-worshiping madmen. If they are willing to risk nuclear war with Russia and/or China in pursuit of their Satanic agenda (consider Trump’s nuclear brinkmanship which continues under Biden) why would they not be willing to risk the consequences of unleashing a bioweapon on their “enemies”?

    其次,如果该计划是要放慢中国的步伐或建立反对它的全球共识,那么美国精英会以新冠病毒为借口寻求与中国脱钩是合乎逻辑的。 他们会称中国邪恶的共产党人试图摧毁世界经济并制裁她或对她征收关税(原文如此)。

    Isn’t that basically what they’re trying to do?

  180. denk 说:

    XNUMXD压花不锈钢板 阴谋 exonerated jap unit 731 criminals in exchange for their treasure dome of bio warfare data.
    They lose no time using it on Chinese and NK civilians in the Korean war.

    抽泣 have never stopped crapping all kind of shits on the Chinese ever since.

    非典1
    http://www.fromthewilderness.net/free/ww3/050903_SARS.html
    http://www.whale.to/v/sars1.html
    http://whale.to/a/sars2.htm

    H7N9, H5N1, HxNx….
    2017
    Mysterious “Weaponized” Virus Sweeps World As Bill Gates Warns 30 Million Will Die
    [Behind every pandemic lurks a FUKUS GOF proj]
    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2242.htm

    [更多]

    bubonic , again,
    US builds bubonic plague lab close to Chinese border – and to Yumen City in Gansu province
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140924233213/https://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/us-builds-bubonic-plague-lab-close-to-chinese-border-and-to-yumen-city-in-gansu-province/

    https://www.salon.com/2014/07/23/pneumonic_plague_puts_chinese_town_on_lockdown/

    Then SARS2 popped up ,at the place [Wuhan] and the time [CNY].
    完美的 plausibe deniability.

    After an avalanche of H5N1, H7N9, swine flu, army worms had already devastated Chinese food supply chain, after the trade blitzkrieg had failed to smash the Chinese hi tech network, the virus pop up right at the time of peak migration, the CNY.
    对不起,
    这无视 Ian Fleming’s fundamental law of probability.

    Gotta be a bio attack from the U同性Suspects/
    -----

    Agree with skrik, Ultrafart the Brave, Alfred, miro23, Harod Smith etc etc
    Just a quick scan over the comments..
    might’ve missed out others.

    PS
    army worms are native to North murikka.

  181. @Ultrafart the Brave

    FYI…. R. Fuellmich is a practicing lawyer, not a Doctor.

    This is an interesting read. https://www.aeginagreece.com/aegina-island/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Transcript-testimony-Reiner-Fuellmich-.pdf

    I agree with your assessment in comment #82. I have deduced the same.

    • 谢谢: Ultrafart the Brave
    • 回复: @Ultrafart the Brave
  182. Great article. Fifth Generation/Hybrid warfare, is where civilians become the agents and objects of war over – yet still alongside – the formal military. Command and control is decentralized such that rogue factions, at least in the West, feel far freer and empowered to ‘save’ and ‘change’ the world.

    The COVID-19 attack on China was ultimately aimed at the United States and Western liberty by neocon Globalists. Far worse for the West than COVID-19, is COVID-1984.

    China was already a police state; the pretext of medical tyranny was almost redundant except to roll back expanding civil liberties. Perhaps under threat of scrutiny in China, was CCP collusion with Western oligarchs, especially Europe’s financial dynasties. However, the independence of the free world was a far greater threat to the Western financialist oligarchy.

    Despite extreme wealth disparity, the Information Age brought information parity and with that, greater elite accountability as they lost overwhelming narrative control.

    Europe’s financial aristocracy is attempting its own imperial renewal at America’s expense, but also against what America stood for as the embodiment of the Western Enlightenment. There is no Globalism, only Europe First imperialism. Globalism is a nice safe inclusive term that fools many into thinking its a greater good. Mackinderan doctrine leaves the imperial powers of Western Europe few other options to stay on top of world civilization than manic 5G hybrid warfare.

    Lacking geographical base, Europe’s financial aristocracy needs to own by soft power as much rival territory as possible while sabotaging them such that Europe First can always come up the middle. Especially of the more natural geopolitical giants; the United States, Russia, India, and China. All while keeping Europe’s own lower and middle classes and the developing world from catching up, or where caught up, preventing them from fully owning, enjoying and leveraging socio-economic power. Especially the power of information.

    COVID-1984, therefore, is critical to the future success of Europe First oligarchy.

    The whole ‘reset’ narrative took off as if already there in whole cloth, ready to go from the start. Every Globalist pawn across borders and social strata got something to play along; Western leftists thought they were going to overthrow capitalism, sinophobes thought they were attacking China, progressive social engineers got to waste useless eaters and expand police statism.

    China’s CCP can’t be that innocent. Euro globalists could never have pulled this off without enjoying the same degree of internal penetration and collusion against Chinese patriots as they enjoyed against Western patriots. China has become the poster child and testing grounds for ideas on Western authoritarianism beyond Marxist police statism.

    The CCP mantra, ‘Socialism with Chinese characteristics’, openly states that Chinese-ness is just an affectation to the CCP Marxist New Man. This is little better than Western crony capitalist Mc-culturalism, which also has no use for humanitarian quality of person beyond expendable worker-consumer.

    COVID-1984 is politicized disaster capitalism, mis-Bastiatian broken-windows economics on steroids that redistributes influence, wealth and power to window breakers and window fixers over everyone else. COVID-1984 must be defied, ended, and its enablers brought to account, or there will be no end to engineered plagues topping off every other engineered crisis.

    • 回复: @Kali
  183. Erebus 说:

    It’s somewhat surprising to me how little consideration is given to the hypothesis that it was indeed an attack, but not on China by the US, or vice versa, or any state on any other, but on the entire world (particularly the developed world) by a supra-national group or loosely coordinated amalgam of such groups with the goal of changing the way the world works.

    If one leaves the binary universe of China/USA, bioweapon/zoonotic origin, intentional/accidental release, etc and their corollaries, and takes a wider (dare I say global) view of the totality of the evidence, one finds oneself compelled to the notion of an attack on 每周 state and its internal socio-political norms 还有 the international systems within which states relate to one another.

    Such an attack could only be contemplated by a group(s) who’s members don’t necessarily identify strongly with any nation, but live globally. If they think of any particular nation at all, it is in the abstract and in the context of the global issue being considered.

    Such a group(s) would naturally employ useful rogue-wannabee idiots from a variety of key nations whose nationalistic/ideological predilections would lead them to playing their allotted role in the execution of a vastly larger plan quite organically without having much of an inkling about the workings, much less the goals of the latter.

    Such a group(s) would also make sure to include carefully thought out narrative management in their plans, and narrative management in their case would include allowing, indeed steering those who would question matters to bog themselves down in just the sort of binary discussions I find myself recently refusing to be bogged down in.

    • 同意: Kali, Mehen
    • 回复: @orchardist
  184. Alfred 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Unfortunately, you were just too lazy to even bother reading my long article

    My apologies. I have read so many of your standard scripts that I did lose my patience. 🙁

    The history of patents as described so well by Dr David Martin demolishes any pretense that this thing is some sort of random event. Work in this direction started at least 20 years ago. This is undoubtedly a bioweapon. The vaccines of the West are nothing of the sort – just as professor Montagnier maintains.

    [更多]

    Here it is once more.

    Dr David Martin | Dr Reiner Fuellmich – July 9, 2021

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html

    Nobel Prize Winner Prof Luc Montagnier (Dicoverer of HIV)

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/nobel-prize-winner-prof-luc-montagnier-dicoverer-of-hiv_M5N2ULAWlGAgSGn.html

    • 同意: Ultrafart the Brave
  185. @Sollipsist

    Biowarfare as geopolitical game, sure. But why so little mention of simple lust for money and power as a motive?

    What “money” and what “power” did the “U.S. government” get from the Vietnam war, the war against Afghanistan or the war against Iraq for example? Evil people do what they do because they’re evil.

    It doesn’t take a complex clandestine effort to coordinate the leaders of various countries to realize that lockdown = increased consolidation of wealth and power.

    What “increased consolidation of wealth and power” are you talking about?

    • 回复: @Sollipsist
  186. utu 说:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    “There’s nothing particularly opaque about Deigin.” – Yes, his bio is pretty clear that he could not be the sole author of the long document he posted on his Medium account (April 22, 2020). Ron Unz’s instincts were correct that it must have been a collaborative effort and that Deigin was just a front man. Wade acknowledges this suspicion but dismisses it and fully endorses Deigin’s document in acknowledgements. So who was Deigin fronting for? How was it arranged and orchestrated? Why the true authors did not publish it under their names? I do not know but there are few clues.

    In the 2nd half of 2020 Deigin began to publish articles with Rossana Segreto who is a post doc at the U. of Graz in Austria. She always is the lead author. There are other coauthors: Dan Sirotkin and Karl Sirotkin. It seems that Dan is Karl’s son. And Karl throughout his carrier was involved in bioinformatics. My impression is that he is indeed a mathematician. In 1988 he was Theoretical Division, Los Alamos National Laboratory and Department of Microbiology and Graduate Program in Cellular, Molecular and Developmental Biology, University of Tennessee Knoxville. Later publications where he is a coauthor list his affiliation as National Center for Biotechnology Information (NIH), Bethesda. MD but in 2010 also University Clinic of Blood Group Serology and Transfusion Medicine, Medical U. of Graz where perhaps he was a visiting scholar. This gives us connection between Segreto and Sirotkin. There is no affiliation for Dan and Karl in Degin’s papers, just a private address in Florida.

    Are Rossana Segreto and Karl Sirotkin real authors of the Deigin’s document? How did they get connected with Deigin? Who picked whom? This brings us to the strange case of Dan Sirotkin. First this is what Dan Sirotkin writes about himself at his Harvard to the Big House blog:

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/contact-2/
    Social and geopolitical analysis and commentary from the ex-con who caught the virological community with their pants down, and left the NSA in 2006 to sound the alarm about the inevitability of racial inequality in America tearing us apart.

    From the very beginning of the pandemic Dan Sirotkin on his blog was pushing the WIV/bioweapon theory giving support to everything that was coming from the ZeroHedge. Why the Big House?

    Md. Coach (Daniel Sirotkin) Gets 7 Years In Girl’s Sex Abuse (Sept 2014)
    https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/09/17/md-coach-to-be-sentenced-in-girls-sex-abuse/

    It is possible that he was still on parole and finding and keeping employment was hard. In Oct 2018 he published his letter to a judge about his parole:

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2018/10/23/theres-no-going-back/

    My crime wasn’t just a betrayal of my and my victim’s families, it was a betrayal of our entire communities ….

    I think I have a unique perspective to write from being that not many Harvard graduates end up serving two-and-a-half-years in a state prison …

    Included with this letter is a list of the books I’ve read during my incarceration which tie into my future freelance writing career…

    And in addition to these books 我的父亲 has sent in several dozen Wikipedia articles….

    As far as deterrence goes, with my 父亲的 help I’ve contacted roughly 100 different college coaches and athletic directors in Maryland hoping to come talk to their athletes about not making the mistakes that I did, or other mistakes that involve 性犯罪 on their own campuses…

    His letter indicates that he has no clue about his situation but knows that a chutzpah often works in our society. Strange thing about sex crimes and the covid debate. No different form another impactful on the covid debate individual, the Metallicman who took a refuge in China after jumping parole in the US. The Metallicman intuited and insinuated the theory of the biowarfare attach on China before Ron Unz. Both Metallicman and David Sirotkin argue on the sides the states that control their destiny like.

    Somebody else looked into Dan Sirotkin:

    Harvard Graduate Dan Sirotkin Backs COVID-19 Whistleblower Dr. Li-Meng Yan’s Claims in a ‘Peer-Reviewed’ Essay —Credibility Questioned (Sept 2020)
    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/252681/20200919/harvard-graduate-dan-sirotkin-backs-covid-19-whistleblower-dr-li.htm

    The first job listing on Sirotkin’s profile shows that he was a former correctional janitor for the Montgomery County Government for three years from 2015-2017. Sirotkin’s next two jobs are for Season 52 and Cafe Mozart as a Food Server or waiter before facing termination after his criminal records are discovered.

    Why on earth Karl Sirotkin and Yuri Deigin put Dan Sirotkin as a coauthor? Who is really in the driving seat of the Sirotkin, Segreto, Deigin project?

    As far as their argument which is not different from what Steven Quay tried to do it is all about the furin cleavage site. Coronoviruses do have furin cleavage site. But it seems that Covid-19 is the first beta-coronavirus with the furin cleavage site. Steven Quay tried to calculate the improbability of such sequence arising at random which was not different form the efforts of intelligent design advocates who argue about improbability of evolution using monkeys and typewriters. Steven Quay could have applied the same argument to coronaviruses that have the furin cleavage site and conclude that they are impossible while clearly they do exist so they must be a result of intelligent design. Probabilities can be very misleading and tricky. That’s why I think David Baltimore reversed his position. It takes a biologist to know and appreciate that mutations and inserts occur in real environment and can’t be easily reduced to mathematical probabilities which are not really known. Biological clock does not run uniformly and sometimes it speeds up.

    Furthermore Deigin insinuates that the virus precursor RaTG13 that Shi Zhengli revealed in January 2020 as a virus discovered and sequenced in 2013 is a fake digitally composed sequence.

    • 谢谢: Mark Hunter
    • 回复: @Brás Cubas
  187. thotmonger 说:
    @Olger

    拼写错误并不像 RP Kadlec 的文章《二十一世纪细菌战》(由 Unz 引用)中的那样糟糕,其中 Kadlec 错误地将亚洲虎蚊归于按蚊属(疟疾蚊子)。 有了这样的科学,毫无疑问,生化武器将横扫一切!

    • 哈哈: John Fisher
  188. @Tony Ryals

    I’m sure this kid never took the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine:

    [更多]

  189. @Kali

    Is that Kali from the Portuguese highlands? If so, why the change in username?

    • 回复: @Kali
  190. Rahan 说:
    @Dumbo

    I find it very, very hard to believe that whoever created or spread this disease didn’t know that, or at least wasn’t strongly aware of such possibility.
    Therefore, the conclusion is that this was not an “attack on Iran or China”, but a global operation from the start.

    This depends on how do we interpret Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and so on. Were these caused by:
    a) incompetent morons?
    b) corrupt assholes?
    c) psychopaths with a big agenda?
    d) a combination of all three?

    Same for the current viral pneumonia-related great reset. I personally tend to view the whole thing as a combination of all three.

    The incompetent morons are told “let’s do X because of Y”, the corrupt assholes go along because doing X will bring Z levels profits and career climbing, and the big agenda psychopaths use the incompetent and the corrupt in order to bring about the situation they wish to bring about.

    Thus it’s a question of dividing the people doing this into three categories. What is being done due to incompetence, what is being done due to corruption, and what is being done as part of the overall big agenda in which the incompetent and the corrupt play their parts.

    Thus you for example:
    1) Convince incompetent morons hey, let’s hit China, it’ll stay there just like SARS did
    2) You convince corrupt assholes, hey, let’s make a ton of money from masks and vaccines by pretending the virus is worse than it really is
    3) All the while pushing forward your own big agenda to do with for example suffocating Western economies and freedoms to 1974 USSR levels, and economic situation of normal folks to neo-feudal neo-pleb levels.

    Very likely preparing the ground for a shift from a few years of “just two more weeks” to “we shall continue all of this indefinitely in order to save Mother Earth”.

    Plus, big players tend to make plans heads I win tails you lose. In the sense of if China had screwed up and allowed the virus to scramble it this was “I win”, but even if China did the impossible and handled the virus, it’s still “you lose” for the Western portion of the feeding ground.

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  191. Anonymous[833]• 免责声明 说:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    That would be a common literary expression connoting someone competent for the job of leading his country and solving problems rather than precipitating disaster, Mr. Mumblebrain. Someone who does not shoot first before even saying hello. Perhaps no such person exists in the world’s only exceptional country, but Putin comes close in his neck of the woods, as does Xi in his. In America, those veiled elites in charge of selecting its “front man” prefer choosing barbarians. It’s sad, I don’t think it will ever change in my lifetime.

  192. utu 说:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    This pandemic has revealed that there are plenty of charlatans amongst professional epidemiologists. Mathematicians and physicists do better epidemiology,

    Most theoretical epidemiologist are mathematicians. That Sunetra Gupta (professor of theoretical epidemiology in the Department of Zoology at the University of Oxford) or John Ioannidis (National Award of the Greek Mathematical Society) turned to charlatanry was not their lack of mathematical knowledge but their weaknesses and flaws of character. In the case of Ioannidis it was his contrarian hubris and vanity and in the case of Gupta it was her entanglement with a segment of British deep sate that wanted to impede and sabotage the policy of mitigation. But they survived and are very popular in libertarian and neo-liberal circles and supported by the network of Koch organizations.

    I agree though that physicists and mathematicians write better papers because they actually understand what they are doing. For example the paper on the IFR of Covid-19 from Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore physicists was better than anything else I read on the subject.

    Cliodynamics? Really? You have a tendency of nullifying your own arguments with excess and absurdity which comes from your need to be noticed. The enfant terrible syndrome?

  193. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Ro , you could counter this defamatory account of your writings with 100% assurance but can you do us all a favour by automatic censorship of the obviously mad. I suggest “Rothschild” used as it is to mean something like “disguised Satan in human form” should be enough. But either half of “It is estimated that Rothschild has 500 trillion in assets. The idea that anything happens without his approval or support is laughable.” should seal it.

    实际上,您还可以增加娱乐价值,方法是在评论中出现可笑的事情时定期打电话给有影响力的临床精神病医生给我们一个诊断。 我知道你有编辑自由和个人信心给评论者贴上荒谬的标签,但那是在浪费你的说服才能,严格评估充其量是克鲁格曼式的挥手。 请务必请真正的专家证人,最好加上机智。

  194. @Branko

    There are lazy obscurantists on this thread Ike many UR threads which attract them like the obsessives they often are. I Google for “how many suicides has the pandemic caused” and the BMJ gave me this in 10 seconds:

    “Views And ReviewsWhat has been the effect of covid-19 on suicide rates?BMJ 2021; 372 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n834 (Published 29 March 2021)Cite this as: BMJ 2021;372:n834

    Read our latest coverage of the coronavirus outbreak

    ArticleMetricsResponses

    Louis Appleby, professor of psychiatryAuthor [电子邮件保护]
    Follow Louis Appleby on Twitter @ProfLAppleby

    Suicide rates haven’t risen, but we should be cautious

    Not a week passes without a story in the press about the impact of covid-19 on suicide. Claims on social media seem to appear daily. A year into the pandemic, what is the evidence? The short answer is that there has been little effect. But it’s more complex than that, as it always is with suicide statistics.

    Firstly, it’s important to stress that the graphs and figures that are used to answer this question are not dry data. They represent real lives lost, real families devastated. No suicide rate, whether high or low, rising or falling, is acceptable. Even before covid-19, there were over 6000 deaths by suicide per year in the UK, an estimated 800 000 worldwide.1

    From the earliest days of the pandemic there was concern that suicide would increase.2 It wasn’t hard to see where the risks might come from: anxiety about infection, isolation, disrupted care, domestic violence, alcohol, recession. Actual figures, though, took months to appear. Now we have reports from several countries, based on national or state level suicide data. They come from Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Sweden, and the US—high income countries in most cases—and they carry a consistent message. Suicide rates have not risen.3…..”

    It defies common sense to explain the 2020 rise in deaths without the only known likely cause. Speculation about the number of false diagnoses of causes of death is entirely inconclusive because almost certainly competent scientists have dismissed the exact figures as irrelevant.

    • 回复: @Dnought
  195. sb 说:
    @Ultrafart the Brave

    I haven’t done a proper survey but have formed a strong impression that Dr Norman Swan ( Australian public television’s resident Jewish, Scottish , qualified paediatrician but now full time heath commentator ) is very popular with those who lack a STEM background and very much not so by those who do

    • 谢谢: Ultrafart the Brave
    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  196. Sarah 说:

    This situation carried disturbing echoes of how those same mainstream media organs had played a similar role twenty years ago in fostering the hoax of Saddam’s WMD and promoting our disastrous Iraq War. Indeed, I found it rather ironic that one of the main Trump Administration Covid experts quoted in that article and others was David Feith, whose father Douglas Feith had been one of the leading Neocons involved in that notorious Bush Administration intelligence fraud. Moreover, the lead author of the front-page Wall Street Journal story that helped to revive the lab-leak theory in late May was Michael R. Gordon, who had previously shared a byline with Judith Miller on most of the fraudulent Iraqi WMD stories that had propelled us into war. And in early 2020, former Mossad agent Dany Shoham had been one of the earliest figures suggesting that Covid was a Chinese bioweapon leaked from the Wuhan lab, with few remembering that in 2001 he had falsely fingered Saddam’s regime as the source of the Anthrax mailings. It almost seemed that members of the old Iraqi WMD cast were reassembling for a revival.

    This is one of the key passages of the article. It could be funny to see the same journalists who accused Iraq of threatening the USA with WMD, accusing today China of being at the origin of the Covid-19.
    It would be funny if it had not had horrible consequences and it could not lead to new horrible consequences.

  197. Dumbo 说:
    @izzy

    “Go home and wait until you’re really sick” is not standard practice.

    Yeah, I thought I was the only one who thought that “stay home and do nothing until you feel so bad that you need to go to the hospital to be ventilated” was a weird way to treat a disease.

    In other news, cases are supposedly rising again even in countries such as Israel, with 60% of the people fully vaccinated. They blame the “delta” variant which supposedly kills even vaccinated people, and “vaccine effectiveness” was reduced to 64%… And these are the official numbers.

    It seems that this is still going to continue for a while now, next winter probably new lockdowns or something worse.

  198. utu 说:
    @MLK

    Se nonè vero, è ben trovato or in other words you say nothing though it reads well.

    • 回复: @MLK
  199. Sarah 说:

    Another key passages of the article:

    Given our ongoing military and geopolitical confrontation with China, America seems the likely source of the attack. However, once the virus eventually reached our own country, President Trump’s completely lackadaisical response demonstrated that he himself had absolutely no idea that he was confronting the threat of a dangerous bioweapon, thereby proving his own personal innocence.

    Or…diverting attention from him; remember his thunderous statements: “the Chinese virus”, “the virus of the CCP”. Weren’t these unproven and defamatory accusations?

    The most likely suspects would be rogue elements of our national security establishment, probably some of the Deep State Neocons whom Trump had placed near the top of his administration

    It is me who put a passage in bold.

  200. @Ron Unz

    抱歉,但似乎 Cass Sustain 的“认知渗透”正在发挥作用……加班!
    悲伤……非常悲伤……可以想象……非常害怕!

  201. Anon62 说:
    @InnerCynic

    Virii are known to degrade on exposure to UV radiation such as is found in natural sunlight. Abbotoirs tend to be large warehouse like buildings with limited sun exposure.

    SARS-CoV2 is reported to prefer cold and humid environments. An abbotoir is normally fed with chilled air and humidity levels are high to avoid drying the meat and to slow natural decomposition of the the animal carcass.

    The high incidence of COVID in meatpacking plants is therefore likely due to the characteristics of that working environment rather than the diabolical machinations of Bill Gates and friends.

    It must be noted that the northern hemisphere decline in infections is likely shaped by the fact it is now summer with a high degree of insolation and relatively high temperatures, environmental conditions unconducive to the spread of the virus. Once we return to the dark days of winter with cold temperatures and reduced sunlight it is expected there will be an increase in infections with a concommitant demand for masks, vaccine boosters, forced isolation, curtailed public events, increased reporting of fellow citizens behaving badly, draconian movement controls, the shuttering of all forms of commerce other than those centered on digital transactions and increased demands to punish China for the conditions imposed upon us by our authoritarian government.
    这就是生活!

    • 回复: @InnerCynic
  202. Anon62 说:
    @Ron Unz

    some COVID-19 patients do have stomach symptoms similar to gastroenteritis.

    The majority of COVID affected experience GI problems such that it is now accepted that testing of urban wastewater flows can provide advance notice of a pending viral outbreak.

    • 回复: @Wokechoke
  203. Anon62 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I followed a process similar to the one you described at the onset of the pandemic. Trying to puzzle out the degree of severity and hazard exposure resulted in the perusal of a lot of web sites.

    I think that it was a military related web publication but am unable to recollect the name.

    干杯!

  204. Kali [又名“fb 无人值守”] 说:

    KDear Mr Unz,
    Please allow me to try a different aproach.

    You have, in my opinion, correctly identified that at least one lab engineered virus was deliberately released in China and Iran in late 2019.

    I’m not convinced that you have gone far enough along the “who done it” line of enquiry, but you seem at least to be in the right ballpark when you suggest “deep state” involvement.

    That is the beginning of the story, which you have covered very well in several essays since spring 2020. But there are so many questions yet to be exored regarding the extent of the impacts of that initial attack.

    The ongoing medical, political, economic and social impacts of that biowarfae attack continue to fundamentally reshape the lives of hunderds of millions of people throughout the political west in so many ways., with highly questionable data being used to justify those on-going and wide-ranging changes to the way we live.

    In the meantime, known and effective treatments for the illness caused by that biowarfare attack continue to be deliberately supressed, whilst billions are being spent on the roll out of experimental vaccine technogy which is actuall doing more harm to more people than the initial attack, if reports from medical whistke-blowers are to be believed.

    [更多]

    Simultaniously, certain prominant globalists appear (if they are to be believed) to be using this increadibly over-hyped crisis to “reset” the economic and social peramiters of the entire western world.

    All of the above, and more besides, calls into question the notion that the initial attack was primerally an attack on China/Iran and all the rest is nothing other than blowback.

    The efforts of our political, corporate and economic “elites”, together with their media organs, have been far to well coordinated and uniform across national boundries to be mearly coincidental.

    I could go on, but I want to keep this note as breif as possible because I actually want you to read it.

    So many question need to be asked, so many “conspiracy theories” need to be explored, so many prominant scientists, medical practitioners and statisticiabs need to be heard as they blow the whistle and point out the massive inconsistancies in many aspects of this world-changing event.

    To be sure, cognative infiltration has created a minefield which makes the exploration of these things rather dangerous. It’s much easier, I know, to accept the “deadly pandemic” narrative, particularly when one has a hard-earned reputation to maintain. But you have explored many other potentially reputation-destroying topics throughout your American Pravda series, and your reputation, I believe, has been enhansed as a result.

    So please, Mr Unz, I implore yoy, I beg you, in all sincerity, to go further in your analysis of this biowarfare attack to explore the many, many ways it is being used by our “elites” to reshape our lives, and draw whatever conclusions you may.

    To dismiss such important questions out-of-hand, as you seem to be doing and as our media conglomerations do, amounts to a disservice to your readers and to your excellent efforts to expose the ongoing “American Pravda”.

    Please at least consider the possibility that this is all a highly sophisticated, well organised and coordinated effort on the part of those same hidden powers that shaped the 20th century to consilidate their power in the 21st.

    非常感谢,
    卡利

    • 回复: @Kali
  205. Kali [又名“fb 无人值守”] 说:
    @Kali

    And please forgive the horrible, horrible typos which litter my comment!

  206. @peterike

    I think I know a bit more about the motivations of politicians than most people on UR threads and I think I picked it one early last year when, with particular concentration on Australian state and federal governments, I saw the need for polling to avoid being blamed by voters at the next election whether it was a result of daily beatups in the media about tearful people who didn’t value an early inheritance from old Granny or the loss of employment. I don’t think I fully appreciated how popular state governments could make themselves in terms of approval ratings and potential votes by imposing tough conditions at borders and even in Victoria’s mismanaged case early necessary lockdowns. Still, though not doing it brilliantly politicians would be aiming to win the next election.

    Your figuring is entirely theoretical so far as it tells you how to assess the state of public opinion and the all important voting intentions. And you have made a grandiloquent overstate.ent. just consider your “an extra 500K deaths is a non-event that effects nothing whatsoever”. Not so fast: 3000 extra deaths on 9/11 had huge effects. You may claim that people’s perceptions caused that, and you might be right but, equally, news from all round the world, as well as insular USA, would have produced fear and confusion which as countries like Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand as well as many others have shown lock downs can effectively counter. (A pity Australia has fallen behind on vaccination).

  207. @The Real World

    Thanks for that link – a good read indeed.

    I hope for Fuellmich’ sake that he has proper personal security.

    [更多]

    FYI…. R. Fuellmich is a practicing lawyer, not a Doctor.

    Going on the link text ( https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-david-martin-dr-reiner-fuellmich-july-9-2021_RlmKScwsMf6ATEG.html ) and the text on the video site, I’d hazard a guess that he is both. Whatever the details, it seems he’s got a doctorate of some sort.

    This isn’t unusual at the elite levels of these professions. For example, Dr.Richard Fleming, who conducted the Event 2021 Corona Chan Information Conference, is also a practicing attorney, as is another high profile (lady) anti Corona Chan activist doctor whose name I can’t recall just now.

    https://thehighwire.com/videos/live-from-event-2021-in-dallas-tx/

    The way things are going, the more legal know-how the medics have, and the more medical knowledge the lawyers have, the better.

    And God help the politicians.

    • 回复: @The Real World
  208. Da's Reich 说:
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    “Don’t really think that all the governments are in it together?”

    Only in so far as they are all owned to varying degrees by those with the purse strings of the world.

    And with regard to Putin, I can’t say, I’m not sure of the extent to which he has to pander to the ‘purse string mafia’.

  209. Kali [又名“fb 无人值守”] 说:
    @Brockland A.T.

    极好的评论。

    There is no Globalism, only Europe First imperialism. Globalism is a nice safe inclusive term that fools many into thinking its a greater good.

    Interesting perspective too.
    As is your differentiation between covid19 and covid1984, which I will make good use of from now on.

    感谢。

    亲切的问候,
    卡利

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  210. Dumbo 说:
    @Rahan

    也许。

    But, who profited from it? (Cui bono)?

    Big Pharma and Big Tech (Amazon, Google, Fb etc), and governments (who now have much more power over the common citizen).

    And who had documents planning for the “eventuality of a coronavirus global pandemic” MANY years before 2019?

    Big Pharma, Big Tech, and several governments. (Sure, this doesn’t prove intent, but the way they responded from the pandemic was very similar to such simulations).

    So, it makes sense to believe that the culprits were Big Pharma, Big Tech and the U.S./Western governments in collusion, perhaps with other entities or government. Perhaps China was involved from the start, perhaps not. I really don’t know.

    Perhaps a “small cabal of rogue neocons”, as Mr. Unz says, did it, BUT the idea that they were unaware that there would be a global blowback and would be limited to China / Iran is disingenuous. If they did it, they really wanted to hit the whole world (or counted that possibility as a likely result).

    Oh well, I don’t know anymore.

    • 回复: @Wokechoke
  211. Anonymous[317]• 免责声明 说:
    @Alfred

    And all along I thought that Homeopathy was mere suggestion. As you say, I hate this discovery that water has memory. You have upset my mental balance. Now I see it! Of course, Water must remember everything! That must be why it is the universal solvent! That is why it is WET!

  212. Wokechoke 说:
    @Anonymous

    The numbers could just be the first die off of the boomer cohorts.

    • 回复: @GazaPlanet
  213. Kali [又名“fb 无人值守”] 说:
    @Commentator Mike

    Yes, this is the same Kali. I’ll explain bow a “more” tag.

    [更多]

    By the time my fb account was removed (I suspect because I shared a link to a forbes article reporting facebooks removal of 1.3 BILLION accounts) I’d not commented on UR for quite some time.
    I was acctually quite upset by my fb ban (because its yet another wedge separating me from my now ‘global’ family) and wanted to highlight the technological totalitanarianism we now face.

    Basically the change in username was a folly… and a mistake, as it has already caused confussion for other commenters.

    Maybe I’ll ask out host to merge my comments under my Kali username.

    Hope this finds you well Mike.

    亲切的问候,
    卡利

    • 谢谢: Commentator Mike
  214. Wokechoke 说:
    @Anon62

    There’s a lot of video footage of Chinese researchers spelunking in batcaves. Cool damp areas like sewers. Only needed one over eager moron to bring this catastrophe out of the mouth of hell to do this.

  215. @Harold Smith

    Thank you for summarising the true and single basis for his arguments. “This completely circumstantial evidence for my theories, which experts see as irrelevant, is actually crucial and true, because all of my other equally flimsy theories say that the people running the West have every trait I hate so much that I deny them in myself.”

    What is interesting is that most of Ron’s acolyte’s allege evilness, because they see themselves as too good and perfect, while Ron himself alleges complete incompetence, because Ron sees himself as just too brilliant for this world.

    Without realising it, you are all making arguments born out of psychological need, and have entered the cliche of the toxic relationship between cult leader and led, between “too competent” and “too pure”. It must be very frustrating for Ron, that most of you are not inclined to follow him into taking Covid more seriously, because you want a greater evil phantom and his theory serves only the purpose of a completely stupid one. This is the point on which your psychological needs are misaligned.

    I suppose you “Harold Smith” are making a bold attempt to bridge the gap, but “evil” and “utterly incompetent” is too much of a stretch. Too basic a character for the bad guys for even the silliest children’s cartoon.

    • 巨魔: Harold Smith, Mark Hunter
    • 回复: @Harold Smith
    , @Dumbo
    , @Kali
  216. Wokechoke 说:
    @Dumbo

    Neocons could just mean insider Jewish appointees or Shabbos lackeys. Anyone spoiling for a fight with the Chinese before this event could be audited.

  217. MLK 说:
    @utu

    . . . or in other words you say nothing . . .

    Not true. Though I get why you say that. I do my best to avoid childish, discrediting tells like the following, refusing to feed bias confirmation:

    “. . . President Trump’s completely lackadaisical response . . . ”

    Look, I know it’s frustrating but when it comes to grand conspiracies the devil really isn’t in the details. At least not in the manner the author of this article asserts.

    For example, he spends a lot of time on the import of the early outbreak in Iran. Let’s just say that right after Trump foiled Iran’s plot to seize American Embassy hostages in Bagdad (and elsewhere) in a replay of the crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection in 1980 Iran’s Covid travails, oddly enough broadcast worldwide, were just what the doctor ordered.

    As you saw with the fairy stories about Trump, to understand their function you cannot disconnect them from their timing and publicized exploitation thereof.

    As I’ve explained before, conspiracies are coalitions of the willing and unwilling. The Covid in all its uncertainty was and remains a perfect tool for concentrating minds and ensuring compliance. Globally, anyone’s death from Covid became and remains plausible. As could the poor or “lackadaisical” response thingie to the extent leaders didn’t accept the “strong” totalitarian measures this author so admires of CCP China.

    Consider what is right in front of your face. The foreign and domestic anti-Trump alignment that coalesced in 2016, failed repeatedly to destroy and remove him, yet consolidated and grew as Trump delivered peace and prosperity. That only makes sense when you notice the uninterrupted signaling from what’s playfully known as the Intelligence Community that they would use any means necessary, and accept any outcome including civil war, to keep him from taking the oath again.

    Don’t you find it odd that psychopathic filth Brennan was very publicly attacking the elected POTUS? Don’t make the mistake of thinking he and the others were there to signal to the hot polloi. If foreign powers were going to participate or at least acquiesce they needed constant reassurance they were backing “the strong horse” and would get paid off.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @Skeptikal
  218. @Ron Unz

    I hope to get round to doing it properly but I have just had an interesting day in which the good news is that, with luck, my once only ten yearly kidney stones will never again require anything to be inserted inside me but will be blasted from outside using focused ultrasound in a half day procedure. (You’ll still want to pay an anaesthetist, though not one that will damage your vocal cords with intubation – that took six months to fix!). And I can’t help noting how my lifelong scepticism about experts got a boost from my distinguished urologist saying “it’s the right kidney isn’t it?” and, when I said no, it was the left one and he scribbled on his notes he mumbled something about “keeping an eye on the right”. Come to think of it I told him in 2004 that I thought a stone that had to be removed before I could fly to the US had already passed. It had, so what he did to me left a lot of discomfort. Just to make sure you are ready for the trials of late middle age I add my experience of about 12 years ago when, to my surprise a neuro surgeon friend actually recommended a back operation and nominated a former chiropractor who, he said, had the fastest hands in the business , for a minimally invasive microdiskectomy. I told him 5 times (last time as I was wheeled in for the op) that the right side problem was now a both sides problem but he only did the right and finally, weeks post op, said “well if this one works we can do the other” ….[it didn’t work well enough to bother]. Maybe I should draw some conclusions from the fact that my tennis club is full of high paid surgeons and consulting physicians (and psychiatrists) whose immediate attentions one would not call on if a club professional was on the spot to administer first aid.

    And I have been much distracted by other comments that irritated even my anaesthetised self on my way back to finding your reply about the Swan-Doherty interview.

    *** *** ***
    I don’t apologise for delivering that rambling lot of conceivably useful information from experience . And I don’t apologise either for noting some more factual information derived from experience and realistic imagination that I should probably share with Dr Norman Swan.**.

    1. One idea I would repeat is that greed, or greed and resentment, is just as likely as neo-con Madness as motive, and it could be a Chinese person’s greed. What is more, however the virus was spread it mightn’t have been the first try that worked.

    2. A gap in reliable information in my experience of relying on UR and links in Comments is the actual number of the alleged scores of US bioweapons or just viral research labs around the world and what they do or could do. However it strikes me as very unlikely BTW that China would experiment with bioweapons at WIV with such obvious sources of likely indiscreet gossip and not a suggestion that there was some sealed off secure section that only CCP members could enter.

    3. Just a final query in the hope that the answer is at the tip of your fingers. You refer to Nicholas Wade’s important article being in Medium. But I have just come across this from The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists that I hadn’t seen mentioned, let alone identified as from that source:

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    4. I would encourage checking the mathematics of the possible rates of spread from the early days of no herd immunity even locally (Cf. my hypothesis of a superspreader on Day 1 at the Iranian Parliament)

    **As you will have detected he emigrated from Scotland, and, as you will have guessed, is Jewish. As a matter of interest his son Jonathan who went to Sydney’s best private school is a journalist for Axios “covering both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue” per Wikipedia.

  219. utu 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I do not know about Baltimore’s motives but saying “I do not know” may not only be the most prudent for him but also it might be the only honest position.

    “I’d really prefer seeing some public discussion of the issue” – Absolutely. I would like Peter Forster’s database used to generate different phylogenetic trees using different algorithms and assumptions and more importantly carrying out stability studies. How does the tree change if some data points are removes and how it changes when more data points that became available since Forster paper publication are added.

    While Peter Forster is a geneticists his specialty is archaeogenetics where data are sparse and conclusion are grand sweeping because they are not likely to be challenged as there is a slim chance that additional data would be found soon or if at all. This is not the case with Covid-19 data. I think the criticisms of his paper were reasonable and sound while his responses were defensive and not constructive. So it is possible he is ignored by his colleagues. For example this 09 December 2020 paper

    Assessing Uncertainty in the Rooting of the SARS-CoV-2 Phylogeny
    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/38/4/1537/6028993?login=true

    does not to cite Forster while possibly is addressed to the adherents of Forster’s conclusion:

    These results suggest that phylogenetic evidence alone is unlikely to identify the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and we caution against strong inferences regarding the early spread of the virus based solely on such evidence.

    The rooting of the SARS-CoV-2 phylogeny has important implications for our understanding of Covid19 epidemiology. Rooting in the B clade is compatible with an origin in or near Wuhan, whereas a rooting in Clade A suggests alternative origins of the virus, perhaps outside East Asia. The phylogenetic evidence alone, which is the focus of our study, is not sufficient to resolve this issue. However, we note that the vast majority of epidemiological evidence points to an origin of the virus in or near Wuhan.

    For that reason we consider the rooting in Clade B, as estimated in molecular clock analyses, and implied in standard phylodynamic analyses (e.g., Lemey et al. 2020), to be the most plausible rooting.

    • 回复: @Iris
  220. Dystopian 说:
    @Anonymous

    I agree that given the evidence we have the most likely explanation for the “pandemic” is US/CCP collaboration. But, correlation is not causation and using government data to make any argument is dubious at best. These are the same people who claim there is no voter fraud, that Jan 6th was an armed insurrection, global warming will cause sea levels to rise and flood Florida by 2010, and that blacks built this country. The CDC report that these figures came from clearly states that it is an estimate. If your premise that the pandemic was a joint US/CCP op is correct, and I agree that it is, it only stands to reason that they would lie to magnify the size of the problem.

  221. Blackjack 说:
    @Tubib Thawr

    I’m no virologist and I’m not sure what “adjuvanted protein subunit vaccines” (perhaps the normal antiviral vaccines with which we have been familiar with for a long time?) but I did recently hear an interesting anecdote in this regard. I met a 49 year old man from Baton Rouge, LA, whose father is an ER doc and mother is a cardiologist. They, and the groups of MD’s who are their associates, vaccinated themselves with the common MMR vaccine booster and none of them have come down with Covid19. He said this was commonly being done by the Louisiana medical community, including at Tulane University Medical School. A brief search engine search revealed that studies are being initiated to see if this inoculation has merit to prevent Covid infections.

  222. @Kali

    Did FB tell you perhaps that people living on another planet didn’t qualify as sufficiently hominid?

    • 回复: @Kali
  223. @VICB3

    A lazy brain fart . You should indeed welcome this comment as promised. It might make you switch your brain on before tossing a turd into the sandpit.

  224. @Triteleia Laxa

    What does your incoherent comment have to do with anything I said?

  225. utu 说:
    @MLK

    “when it comes to grand conspiracies the devil really isn’t in the details” – Or when you have no details all you have are grand conspiracy theories. Weaving them is easier and they can be grander as you are not constrained by details.

    As I indicated what you write is pleasant to read but it is anchored in the presupposition of Trump being grand to the grandest possible extent that justifies the grandest possible conspiracy against him.

    • 回复: @MLK
  226. annamaria 说:
    @Anonymous

    The truth is much more banal and the culprits are the usual kind – the profiteers by any means:
    “A Manufactured Illusion: Dr. David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich: The Illusion of Demand”

    [更多]

    It is time for the ghastly moral dwarf Fauci to commit suicide.

    • 回复: @cassandra
    , @annamaria
  227. @MarkU

    22 小时 XNUMX 分钟是不可能的。 如果这很重要,一些好公民需要转录它。 大多数人会假设他们已经阅读或听到了其中所有重要的内容。

    • 同意: Kali
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  228. Sollipsist 说:
    @Harold Smith

    The increase in wealth to billionaires at the expense of everyone else, from the start of lockdowns to now, has been called the “greatest transfer of wealth in history.” Even allowing for media hyperbole, it’s a shockingly obvious trend.

    I don’t know about “evil.” I’m sure there are broken people who get up in the morning fully intending to cause suffering, but I doubt the wealthy and powerful are united by any conscious dedication to malice. Like most of us, they either fully believe in their own rightness or simply seek advantage without thinking too deeply about the consequences to others.

    • 同意: Triteleia Laxa
    • 回复: @Harold Smith
    , @Harold Smith
  229. orchardist 说:
    @Erebus

    now we’re getting somewhere!

  230. thotmonger 说:
    @pietro

    这就是大卫·马丁在《瘟疫2》中主演和踢屁股的人,去年这部纪录片警告美国每个人都不要观看,因为他们害怕手掌上长毛。 在那里我听说了离岸功能研究的增益以及福奇与大毒枭和武汉实验室的乱伦关系……

    [更多]

    因此非常有争议但与 Unz 等人不兼容。 只能是一名幸存者。 辩论,辩论!

    ps 这个措辞特别让我烦恼:

    在过去的三代人中,似乎没有任何事件像持续的全球 Covid 流行病那样对世界产生如此大的影响。

    面对现实: 过度反应 对 Covid19/Sars2 或其他任何原因而言,是导致(或原谅)这种经济内爆和世界范围内的权力攫取的原因,而不是过度死亡或对基础设施的实际破坏的程度。 理解这一点非常重要。

    注意:我已经阅读了 RU 的本系列文章的每一部分。 上面的文章比大多数文章都要好,但它在很大程度上取决于非常稀疏和简短的年表。 为什么要保持如此狭隘的态度,同时拒绝涵盖其他关键方面,例如应对措施的负面影响以及谁从中受益?

    我们都在驾驶员培训中了解到,当鹿跳到您的车前时,您必须抵制用力猛拉方向盘的诱惑。 最好留在路上。 冒着对您的前端造成一点损坏的风险,而不是最终在峡谷底部被弄皱。 教训:不要反应过度!

    无论如何,由于社会和经济 影响 很容易与 1990 年代的苏联解体相提并论,也许我们应该看看与在那次事件后掠夺俄罗斯的寡头有什么联系? 他们也在玩这个吗? 或者至少将当前的一组奸商和权力掮客作为这场混乱背后的主要嫌疑人。 回答为什么比尔盖茨说整个星球都需要紧急接种疫苗? 为什么不理会 RFK jr. 在疫苗危险和安全需求方面的工作,而是将他归咎于反疫苗炒作? 那是不公平的、懒惰的,或者更糟。

    或许 Unz 的这个系列是一个精心制作的陪衬,以吸引 Big Dope 公司的注意力?

    • 同意: John Fisher
    • 回复: @bike-anarkist
  231. Anonymous[317]• 免责声明 说:
    @lysias

    Fauci has tried many times to get out of the racket. But every time he does, they pull him back in.

  232. 另一位 Unz 评论作者表示,在发表评论之前,应该阅读这样的长篇文章。

    我没有读过这篇文章,正在发表评论以抗议这种观点。

    话虽如此,我确实读过 Unz 勋爵攻击 Godfree Roberts 作为“无能的亲中国宣传员”并笑了笑。

  233. @M. Le Docteur Ralph

    If the coronavirus pandemic was an example of biological warfare, then not expecting blowback from the attack would be rank stupidity.

    Ron Unz addressed that in his very first article putting forth the biowarfare hypothesis. I may misremember but in my own words:  1. They ,那恭喜你, stupid.  2. Psychopaths don’t think of other people, or rather, they think of them as merely physical objects which may or may not affect them. Mass death and mayhem to get what they want was for them a calculated risk.  3. They could have believed that the West’s medicine was so superior to the East’s that any pandemic here could quickly be squelched. Finally, and I don’t recall this in RU’s article, the pandemic in the West has been used, like 9-11, to vastly increase government power, as in the famous statement Hermann Göring made to Gustave Gilbert. Whether the Deep State intended it or not they came out ahead in the U.S.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  234. MLK 说:
    @utu

    You make my point about the devil not being in the details better than I could:

    . . . Trump being grand to the grandest possible extent that 证明 the grandest possible conspiracy against him. (emphasis mine)

    How is it possible you’re still unsure that the anti-Trump alignment felt justified in their pursuit of “Trump Must Go!”

    The irony is that justification is the easy part. “Let me count the ways . . . .” It’s meaningless absent a willingness to bear the risk of conspiring/acting in furtherance of the objective.

  235. Herald 说:
    @Ron Unz

    但这里列出了过去几年美国因各种原因死亡的总数,直接取自 CDC 网站:

    2014:2,626,418
    2015:2,712,630
    2016:2,744,248
    2017:2,813,503
    2018:2,839,205
    2019:2,854,838
    2020:3,384,426

    您会注意到,直到2020年,这些数字突然跃升了500,000万以上,这个数字还是相当稳定的。

    How many of those excess deaths relate to refused medical treatment, poor medical treatment, criminal medical treatment and perhaps most importantly downright lies, which is a CDC speciality? I don’t know the answer to any of the above, but neither does anyone else, outside the CDC. Using the CDC’s figures without qualification is heading down the road to nowhere.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  236. cassandra 说:
    @annamaria

    Youtube took down your video
    “A Manufactured Illusion: Dr. David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich: The Illusion of Demand”.

    Thank you, youtube, for drawing my attention with your censorship. Here it is on bitchute:
    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/JyZqaOm5cBFO/

    • 谢谢: annamaria
  237. From RU’s article:

    The all-out effort to develop and distribute effective vaccines, including new and briefly-tested ones, has merged the Covid controversy with the longstanding anti-vaxx movement …

    … a great deal of the agitated commentary on this subject appears outlandish and implausible. Many activists seem to assume a unified worldwide conspiracy … to pretend that Covid is dangerous and that the vaccines against it are not, even though the truth is exactly the reverse. …

    Opposition to the experimental vaccines for Covid should not be confused with the longstanding anti-vaxx movement, even if some in the latter have joined the former.

    There are many intelligent, knowledgeable, and accomplished people speaking out against the experimental Covid vaccines. Among them are Robert Malone, inventor of the delivery technology used in those vaccines, and Steve Kirsch, inventor of the optical mouse. Here is a video discussion featuring these men, boiled down to 43 minutes from the over-an-hour-long original — hosted by Brett Weinstein on his 黑马 播客:

    The Regulatory Mess and the Suppression of Adverse Events

  238. Ron Unz 说:
    @Morton's toes

    22 小时 XNUMX 分钟是不可能的。 如果这很重要,一些好公民需要转录它。 大多数人会假设他们已经阅读或听到了其中所有重要的内容。

    坦率地说,我不确定我从未从视频中得到任何有用的东西,所以我几乎从不看它们。

    相对于书面时期的信息,它们的密度非常低,浪费时间,不容易被审查或考虑,不能包含来源链接,并且经常充斥着各种分散注意力的心理宣传,很多像电视。 也许,可能有一些例外,例如本质上具有压倒性视觉效果的材料。

    但是,如果有人不想花时间至少写一篇简短的书面文章来概述他试图证明的内容,那么那里可能什么都没有。

  239. Dumbo 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I am not sure what you’re trying to say, but it is perfectly possible (and we’ve seen a lot of examples of that) to be both very evil and very incompetent or even stupid. They are not opposites.

    Now, I personally don’t think that the elite are “stupid”; they are incompetent, sure, but the incompetence is by design; the destruction and the dysfunction of the modern world are by design. It is much easier to destroy than to create.

    But notice that the supposed “incompetence” rarely affects their own pockets or livelihoods; no, it is only others who suffer, and they, even in the middle of a supposed pandemic, increased their fortunes in a few billions more.

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  240. @thotmonger

    全心全意地同意。

    这条评论会不会因为违背权威而被暂停?

    人类害怕自然、他们的身体主权和他们的个人免疫力,并用它来换取健康卖淫的这种失败。

    • 同意: John Fisher
  241. GazaPlanet 说:
    @Wokechoke

    Or the first wave of mass euthanasia in shut-up nursing homes. Because if they can do everything else they’ve gotten away with, they can do that.

    • 同意: Kali
  242. @Ron Unz

    是的,感谢您准确表达了我对此的看法。

    播客虽然很好,但您可以在散步或开车时收听它们。

    我看到你为你的书面作品制作了一些,这是受欢迎的,但我发现这种写作风格对于播客来说不太好。 它太密集了,人们听得更心烦意乱。 这就是为什么对话风格效果更好的原因。

    对话可以在线录制,几乎不需要准备。 我希望你可以利用这一点。

    就我个人而言,我很乐意您录制一系列可能与您自己的作家进行的对话。

    • 回复: @lysias
  243. @Red Pill Angel

    But then why would governments go along with it and protect the guilty parties? This narrows down the list of suspects. Ask yourself: who has been able to pull off massive global hoaxes on the scale of Covid-19 in the last 100 years and keep governments and media from exposing them? WW1, WW2, the Holohoax, JFK, 911…. only Jews are capable of pulling off an operation this large, and keeping foreign governments and the media quiet about it.

    • 回复: @Red Pill Angel
  244. @Herald

    Switch your few neurons on dear boy. Plenty of people connected to compiling the figures know what you assert no one knows to the usual levels of approximation with some little error that apply to all figures. (That is unless you are asserting that the 500,000 is just about all lies by the CDC, which you fail to give any explanation for). More important, what possible reason is there for believing the factors you mention could net out to that 500,000 in one year? No, on second thoughts you haven’t enough neurons to make them worth deploying.

    • 巨魔: Kali
  245. @sb

    I know medical doctors who listen to the Health Report and I wonder if you are implying that only those with Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics degrees are habituated to applying the right level of intellectual rigour to the medicine related discussions on Dr Swan’s program? Really?

  246. Ron Unz 说:
    @Mark Hunter

    If the coronavirus pandemic was an example of biological warfare, then not expecting blowback from the attack would be rank stupidity.

    Ron Unz addressed that in his very first article putting forth the biowarfare hypothesis.

    Yes, and one point I made is that is that Covid had inflicted a gigantic disaster upon American society, and according to most estimates killed somewhere between 600,000 and a million Americans.

    Obviously, some more “conspiratorially-minded” individuals believe that disaster was deliberate. Okay, but if we leave that possibility aside, our ruling elites otherwise seem totally incompetent. For example, all the East Asian countries avoided problems of similar magnitude.

    A few other points to consider regarding the insouciance of the Deep State Neocons, who probably were behind the biowarfare attack:

    (1) International organizations had ranked America #1 in ability to cope with an epidemic, while China had been considered very vulnerable:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/america-first-in-epidemic-preparedness/

    (2) And as I just pointed out in this article, Robert Kadlec, one of America’s top biowarfare experts, had been brought in by Trump in 2017. His focus was the covert use of bioweapons to inflict serious economic damage upon adversaries, and by 2018 and 2019 China had begun to suffer mysterious and severe viral epidemics targeting its poultry and meat supply.

    Next, Kadlec spent most of 2019 organizing governmental practice-simulations on the hypothetical outbreak of a dangerous viral respiratory disease in China and how America could prevent it from spilling over into our own society. Then, a couple of months after the simulations were concluded, the Covid epidemic began in Wuhan:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-wuhan-iran-and-several-red-herrings/#the-plausible-deniability-of-bioweapons-and-their-effectiven

    I’d assume that the results of the 2019 epidemic-simulations were much more successful than what actually transpired a few months later. Plans always work better on paper.

    Frankly, when you simply put together all the pieces I’ve provided in my (admittedly) very long article, I think you’re left with this sort of “mystery”:

    Suppose the Colombos and the Bonnanos are involved in a bloody gang-war in NYC, and a couple of the Colombo capos tell their friends they’re about to meet with the Bonnanos to try to resolve things. The next day, they’re both found shot to death. Now who in the world could have been responsible?…

    • 谢谢: Mark Hunter
    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  247. GayDad69 说:

    IIRC Fauci 于 2017 年在武汉重启了功能增益研究,即使特朗普命令他这样做也没有停止。

    我认为它最初是与中国作为全面合作伙伴一起制定的(你到底为什么要与经济和军事对手进行生物武器研究?),但随着时间的推移,中国证明他们没有加入全球犹太人美国政府即兴指责他们的霸权和全球性。

    也许他们有中国的“伙伴”,他们很清楚中国人太无能而无法妥善遏制它?

    无论哪种方式,双方都不是好人。

  248. @Ron Unz

    Obviously, some more “conspiratorially-minded” individuals believe that disaster was deliberate. Okay, but if we leave that possibility aside, our ruling elites otherwise seem totally incompetent. For example, all the East Asian countries avoided problems of similar magnitude.

    “Totally incompetent” is an inapt phrase for a “performance” which is somewhat better than almost everywhere, but the East Asian countries.

    I’m curious. Do you think it is “competence” that saw Cambodia outperform Germany from Covid-19? And all of Europe?

  249. aandrews 说:

    https://i.imgur.com/XtNHs3J.png

    [更多]

    超级市场。

    • 回复: @Commentator Mike
  250. @Dumbo

    Read your own post. Notice how you can’t swallow Ron’s allegations of “total incompetence”, without turning it into “extremely evil competence”, or, as you say “destruction by design.”

    Don’t you find that interesting?

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  251. @Ron Unz

    阅读和写作是有史以来最伟大的发明,而这样做的工作人员是一群受到启发的人。 音频和视频可以提供良好的 娱乐 虽然。

    Yesterday I saw a youtube on Lenny Dykstra the baseball player and felon and it was most fun. Dykstra reported he never read a book because he didn’t want to drain his visual system as he needed it all in the batter’s box. Then later I listened to Art Bell and Michael Heiser and it’s a great show that I am going to finish when I have time. As learning resources they are not good.

    我曾经害怕参加大学讲座和企业培训课程。 如果你是一个熟练的网络工作者,他们是必不可少的。 如果你不是,他们几乎都是在浪费时间。

  252. @Ultrafart the Brave

    I hope for Fuellmich’ sake that he has proper personal security.

    Exactly what I thought when watching that video with Dr Martin. RF is hovering very closely over-the-target and some globally powerful people don’t want that.

    another high profile (lady) anti Corona Chan activist doctor whose name I can’t recall just now.

    Dr. Simone Gold also has a JD, yes. She’s part of America’s Frontline Doctors – https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/?s=simone+gold
    She is whip-smart and very brave.

    The way things are going, the more legal know-how the medics have, and the more medical knowledge the lawyers have, the better.

    AGREED and include some strong spine!

  253. annamaria 说:
    @GayDad69

    您需要寻找更简单的解释。 钱。 经销商在 2004 年就预想了很多钱。经销商是美国人(国际人)。 你还能在哪里找到这种程度的愤世嫉俗?



    视频链接

    • 回复: @the grand wazoo
  254. @aandrews

    So how are the unvaccinated supposed to live? Will they at least be allowed to go to jail for free food and board if they commit a serious crime to try to get out of this predicament?

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  255. @pietro

    GooTube nuked not only the vid but the non-ironic, hard-core leftist account behind it

  256. @utu

    I had already signalled my disagreement with you by agreeing with Karlin’s comment, and I still think you are wrong, though certainty is totally out of question in these matters. That Deigin may have had collaboration on his initial paper, and the co-authors preferred to stay anonymous at that point in time (and understandably could not retract from that position except in later collaborations), is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis which does not detract from Deigin’s credibility (or anyone’s for that matter). Unless every single word coming from him (including his tweets) is ghost-written, Deigin is an undeniably brilliant fellow, and I would have a very hard time imagining him to be simply a “front man”.

    I am not a specialist on virology or any science field for that matter, but I seriously think that you are wrong by equating Quay and Deigin’s probability estimation regarding the furin cleavage with Intelligent Design theory. Whereas Intelligent Design proponents simply reject that, given infinite time and space, intelligence would appear through evolution, the appearance of a specific feature in a virus is an occurrence in a limited time and space, in an already existing environment. So, my understanding is that some probabilities are necessarily greater than others.

    Here’s a curious event which could allay your suspicions (or on the contrary intensify them):

    On Harvard2TheBigHouse (Dan Sirotkin’s) Expulsion from DRASTIC & Related
    https://yurideigin.medium.com/on-harvard2thebighouse-expulsion-from-drastic-8992ae463add

    • 回复: @utu
  257. @Jamesc

    The US researchers wanted to study coronaviruses of Chinese bats. It would have been hard to do so without collaborating with the Chinese: only they could provide the specimens.

    A bonus was that the US researchers could get close to Chinese scientists and their labs.

  258. Robbyj73 说:

    The lab theory serves 2 purposes. One is to divide the country into separate opinions on its origin. Second, and more importantly, is to keep the narrative alive that it is actually real and to keep moving vaccines. The fact that the intelligence agencies put out the lab idea is hopefully a reaction to people waking up and realizing this is a scam. The fact that it isn’t real should make us all very concerned with what’s in that shot. Seems to be graphene oxide, which is very toxic.

    • 回复: @John Fisher
    , @cassandra
  259. Mehen 说:
    @Caspar von Everec

    我相信你注意到的奇怪的异常、矛盾和不一致可以通过参考一个事实来解释:任何对民族国家或政府的地缘政治分析,将它们视为很大程度上是单一的实体,可悲的是缺乏细微差别。

    也许你注意到的不一致的双方都可以通过考虑这种可能性来解决:存在较老的精英派系——让我们称他们为盎格鲁犹太复国主义帝国主义者——他们在某种意义上确实关心美国,如果只是寄生在它身上以维持对美国的霸权全球主义和国际全球主义共产主义派系,他们更愿意看到美国作为一个国家解散到一个世界政府/新世界秩序中。 似乎这两个派系——虽然有相当大的重叠——仍在为某些方法和目标而战。

    或许 Unz 先生是在如此固执地指责盎格鲁犹太复国主义者,以转移对国际全球主义派系的注意力? 这种可能性肯定会在某种程度上解释他在更大的全球性问题上的特殊盲点,许多其他评论者恳求他考虑。

    仅仅是一个想法。

  260. @Commentator Mike

    The unvaccinated in Europe will have to get vaccinated. Continental European traditions see “freedom” differently than the US does. I assume it will be 在法律上, 不只 事实上的, mandatory in China for the same reason.

    Freedom requires sacrifices that many people are not willing to pay. It also gives wonderful benefits, but most people are not subtle-minded enough to see through the sacrifices to the benefits.

    Any country that does not find a way to enforce vaccination will have more Covid-19 deaths than those that do.

    This is a big, blatant fact that is silly to deny. It takes calmness and long-sightedness to see through it to the benefits of avoiding allowing your government that power and of trusting in your populace to make their own decisions.

    Sadly, that type of wisdom is rare, or, maybe, when that wisdom is too rare, its very rareness stops it from being true and wise.

    Are people smart and complete and measured enough for that kind of freedom anymore?

    The only way I have of guessing is in looking whether they ensure they fight for and keep it, or not.

  261. MarkU 说:
    @Ron Unz

    坦率地说,我不确定我从未从视频中得到任何有用的东西,所以我几乎从不看它们。

    相对于书面形式的信息,它们的密度非常低,浪费时间,不容易审查或考虑,不能包含来源链接,并且经常充斥着各种分散注意力的心理宣传

    我完全同意,我自己也说过很多相同的话,播客尤其可怕。 然而,我确实观看了 David Martin 的采访(跳过了德语翻译)为了争论,假设这些信息是合法的,我认为它可能会改变游戏规则。

    但是,如果有人不想花时间至少写一篇简短的书面文章来概述他试图证明的内容,那么那里可能什么都没有。

    幸运的是,已经有人这样做了。 浏览这篇文章最多需要 5 分钟,看看它是关于什么的。

    https://mydundasvalley.com/2021/07/12/a-manufactured-illusion-covid-19-patents/

    • 谢谢: Morton's toes, Kali
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @zoomy
  262. lysias 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I would never listen to a podcast while driving. It would take too much of my attention away from the road.

  263. Dnought 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I don’t think the post you are replying to qualifies as “obscurantism”. Overdose deaths up by 29% in 2020 compared to the previous year, in the United States.

    No doubt the virus is responsible for a good portion of the excess deaths in the US (and other locales) but I have seen reputable researchers who estimate that non-COVID deaths are responsible for 25% to 30% or more of the excess death total(s).

  264. @Rabbitnexus

    In the same way back in Port Arthur I recalled reading in the local newspaper both the serial number guns Bryant supposedly used were listed as destroyed after surrender during a previous gun amnesty.

    If you remember which paper and the approximate time you read it, it would be worth tracking this information down in a library.

    • 回复: @Rabbitnexus
  265. thotmonger 说:
    @Ron Unz

    所以不重要的 Youtube 审查了它。 哈。 你在这里犯了一个错误,或者正在避免一个问题。

    同时,人们应该意识到“视频”采访主要是音频,而不是视频,并且以正常的精心设计的速度进行,可能由来源思想者提供。 就像作者从他们的书中读到一些段落或提炼出他们的信息要旨一样……如果你不喜欢这个人的表情,你可以闭上眼睛。 闭上眼睛,偶尔听听人声,而不是根据字母组合对所有内容进行评分。

  266. @Ron Unz

    如果视频中的人是“高质量”的,那可能值得一看。 在帖子 #243 中,我链接到一段视频,其中包括我认为符合该标准的 Robert Malone 和 Steve Kirsch。 然而,除了视频之外,他们确实发表了概述他们立场的文章:

    你应该接种疫苗吗?
    史蒂夫·基尔希 (Steve Kirsch) 是光学鼠标的发明者,也是他创立的 COVID-19 早期治疗基金的执行董事。

    疫苗安全证据
    由 mRNA 技术的发明者 Seve Kirsch 和 Robert Malone 提出。

    • 谢谢: Morton's toes
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  267. @Ron Unz

    好吧,我通过听它结束了我的医学消费日,我认为你应该认为它更像是你在 UR 上的采访,或者可能是广播节目的播客,在那里你可以轻松地拥有一个 Dt Norman Swan 和两个医学教授。 CP。 Swan & Doherty(也许一个诺贝尔奖得主算两个)。

    I have had the two Astra Zeneca vaccine jabs without a problem but was thinking of topping up with Pfizer later in the year. Now I’m not sure that I shouldn’t at least wait longer and encourage young family members that if, as good citizens or would be travellers, they think they should be vaccinated they accept the very small risk of blood clots with the Astra Zeneca vaccine. I am inclined to think also that the discouragement to using Ivermectin in modest dosesclose to the actual or possible time of infection has much to be said for it after many years of use without anything much in the way of side effects.

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @John Fisher
  268. @Wizard of Oz

    I see that I didn’t send that reply until I had checked on “Ivermectin side effects” and when I got back to that search found that there were side effects cautioned about….

  269. Ron Unz 说:
    @MarkU

    幸运的是,已经有人这样做了。 浏览这篇文章最多需要 5 分钟,看看它是关于什么的。

    https://mydundasvalley.com/2021/07/12/a-manufactured-illusion-covid-19-patents/

    Well, I glanced through that outline and wasn’t at all impressed. I don’t know anything about patents, but it struck me as typical anti-vaxx crackpottery, e.g.

    Are the “vaccines” a bio-weapon tool for population control? [44:50]…

    – “任何制药公司都没有努力对抗这种病毒。 这是关于让人们注射已知有害的 S-1 刺突蛋白。” 大卫·E·马丁博士[46:58]

    “悲剧是我们现在所处的世界有数亿人被注射了病原体刺激计算机序列,该序列以专利局、医学专业和 FDA 的名义出售。自己的临床标准不会建议是疫苗,但通过使用 [疫苗] 一词,我们实际上正在使数亿人受到 2005 年已知的生物武器的影响。” 大卫·马丁博士[50:10]

    I’ve never heard of any of those people, I suspect they’re just a bunch of nuts.

    Russia, America, China, Israel, Iran, and every other country are using various vaccines to combat Covid, and none of their leaders have said anything about this diabolical plot, so are they all in it together? That’s exactly the sort of “rubbish” that Putin was ridiculing in that passage of his talk that I quoted.

  270. Ron Unz 说:
    @Mark Hunter

    If the people in the vdieo are “high quality” it might be worth watching. In post #243 I linked to a video featuring Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch who I think meet that standard.

    Well, I’ve never heard of Malone, but I had a few very slight dealings with Steve Kirsch about twenty ago, and although he’d been quite successful in his tech business, he struck me as an extreme egomaniac and something of a nut. Frankly, I’d regard him as having negative-credibility, so if he supports something, it’s a little more likely to be nonsense.

    • 回复: @Mark Hunter
  271. Notsofast 说:
    @GayDad69

    fauci didn’t restart gain of function research in wuhan in 2017, he restarted it in ft. detrick in 2017. fauci moved gain of function research to wuhan in 2014 when it had been outlawed in the u.s. and brought it home in the back door when the h.h.s. was between directors in dec 2017. in aug 2019 the bioweapons lab was shut down by the c.d.c. for “safety violations”. all roads lead to fauci.

  272. Dumbo 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    没有

    As I said, it’s easier to destroy than to create, so you don’t need a lot of “extremely evil competence” to destroy stuff or create chaos.

    Also, it’s easier to believe that rich and powerful people are evil than they are stupid, they didn’t make money or get power by being stupid or incompetent, did they? But by being evil? Maybe…

    But, as I said, people can be both evil and incompetent. Being both good and competent is much, much harder, perhaps impossible for mortals.

    你相信什么?

    晚安。

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  273. Dumbo 说:
    @Ron Unz

    anti-vaxx crackpottery

    So which vaccine did you take, Mr. Unz?

    Perhaps we should make a poll, and see which vaccine every columnist and commenter at UR took, and place our bets on the side effects down the line. So far, I only know that Anatoly Karlin took the Sputnik, and it didn’t make him much more deranged than he already was… LOL.

    Me, I’m still undecided. Astra Zeneca gives you blood clots, J&J Guillain-Barré syndrome, Pfizer and Moderna myocarditis…. Hmmm…

    Of those who were fully vaccinated who caught the Delta variant, 50 died, data from Public Health England that was published on Friday indicated.

    The figure represents almost half of the total 117 deaths associated with the variant in the UK, where Delta now represents most cases.

    But experts said this does not undermine what we know about the efficacy of the vaccines

    LOL. What would we do without experts?

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  274. Iris 说:
    @utu

    does not to cite Forster while possibly is addressed to the adherents of Forster’s conclusion:

    No. The article does not cite Pr Forster so it can pretend to ignore that Pr Forster has already produced rebuttals about the points raised, including the politically-sensitive issue of the genetic “outgroup”, the starting point used to kick off the algorithm that built the phylogenetic network and uncovers its possible ancestor strain.

    In their view, such a distant outgroup is unlikely to provide a reliable root for the network. We argue, on the contrary, that the bat virus is surprisingly conclusive, as shown by its stable rooting in cluster A despite incrementally increasing the epsilon “fuzziness” setting in the median-joining network algorithm as described in PNAS (1). Where Mavian et al. (8) have gone wrong is to look no further than the 3.8% difference between bat and human coronavirus differences. However, if they had considered that the bat virus genome is 30,000 nucleotides long, and then had looked at the 1,200 nucleotide differences between bat and human virus, they would have seen that only 19 nucleotides are shared polymorphisms between the bat coronavirus and the consensus of the 160 human coronavirus genomes, encompassing maximum parsimony trees of 212 mutations. On this basis, the bat coronavirus is an excellent outgroup for rooting the network. Furthermore, since publication we have confirmed the bat coronavirus rooting with two strains of the more distant pangolin coronavirus.

    https://www.pnas.org/content/117/23/12524?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Proc_Natl_Acad_Sci_U_S_A_TrendMD_0#sec-2

    So Forster is sticking by his guns and affirming the genetic chronology of SARS-CoV2 he came up with. He also provides two argument which are clear enough for the maths-savvy but genetics-ignorant like you and me: increasing the genetic distance tolerance on intermediate missing sequences, or kicking off the iterations with other, different outgroups (either of the two pangolin viruses), he stills came up with a similar network, presenting the similar strains A, B and C in chronological order. So much for the enlightened critics.

    The three strains Forster came up with in April 2020 were very visible in the early snapshots directly taken from the very mainstream GISAID database, such as this one from April 2020, although GISAID chose a linear phylogenetic presentation to avoid controversy.

    Forster’s classification hasn’t been withdrawn. It can be accessed on the embedded Excel file (Click on “Download classification of 1001 SARS-C0V2 genomes“). There are over a 1000 samples listed. Out of those, 326 genomes are of the ancestor A type, but only 72 came from Asia, and only a miniscule subset of 4 were sampled in Wuhan.
    https://www.fluxus-engineering.com/cov2020.htm

    Out of all candidates considered to be the cradle of SARS-CoV 2, Wuhan fares as the most unlikely, including when compared to other Chinese cities such as Shanghai.

  275. @Dumbo

    I believe that both the commenters’ line of “the other” being “evil” is implausible and that Ron’s line that the same “others” are “totally incompetent” is equally implausible.

    As you say, you don’t get that high by being completely stupid, and these are huge institutions, with hundreds of thousands of workers, so luck doesn’t suffice as an explanation either.

    同时,邪恶,一个真诚地做大坏事的问题,因为你 喜欢 真诚地做坏事和任何事情一样罕见。 这些人通常需要非常极端的时间才能获得权力,因为他们身边的人可以感觉到,不会轻易提拔这些人。

    Instead, you’re both projecting, and, as proof, that you’re both doing that, I have demonstrated the fundamental and unbridgeable mismatch between Ron and his commenters’ psychological needs. It is there for anyone astute to see.

    The pattern has even become so frustrating for Ron that he has had to bring out the ban hammer, when this is his most hated instrument. I don’t blame him, but I thought he might appreciate insight into the cause of his problems. I don’t expect most commenters will be subtle enough thinkers to follow, but I am sure that Ron is a capable, if he chooses.

  276. @Dumbo

    Me, I’m still undecided. Astra Zeneca gives you blood clots, J&J Guillain-Barré syndrome, Pfizer and Moderna myocarditis…. Hmmm…

    Covid also gives you those, but with higher frequency. Perhaps this is unsurprising, since the vaccines are all 部分的 simulations of the disease.

    If you’ve had it, there’s little point in getting vaccinated, at least for a year or two after. If you haven’t, then it is highly likely that you’ll get Covid over the next year as vaccinated people go back to normal, and transmission ramps us.

    The disease is worse than the vaccine.

    • 回复: @John Fisher
    , @Dumbo
  277. @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Okay. It was China’s response to American treachery on Taiwan. Let’s remember the Long March, PLA fleeing for months, finally winning, and their pursuers going offshore, taking over Taiwan.

    All American mischief. That’s what’s behind the South-Of-China Sea troubles. And a mountain of others.

    Let the US 支持 China’s takeover of it’s own island. End of a mountain of troubles. Don’t blame China.

  278. Mehen 说:
    @Rabbitnexus

    I believe Gary Webb covered this story extensively. I believe the cyclist’s name was something like “Banaressi”(sp)

    • 回复: @Anon62
  279. @Triteleia Laxa

    The disease is worse than the vaccine.

    Just stop. This site is clearly divided into three camps:

    1. Clear thinkers who easily spot paid narrative engineers and dupes.
    2. Paid narrative engineers.
    3. Dupes (call them normies if you wish).

    Notice there is no category for those undecided who can be moved by your bullshit.

    You are either in category 3, in which case I would say to PYHOOFA as soon as possible, or you are in category 2, in which case I would say GFY.

    No offense, of course.

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  280. 罗恩·恩兹(Ron Unz)
    If you aren’t familiar with Dr. Dave Martin’s research on Covid19 you may want to watch this interview. I think he nails it. In this interview he delivers his evidence concisely. Now it’s up to a prosecutor to panel a grand jury and bring forth the indictments. Here’s the link.

    [更多]

    xxhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/4ihoQNwnerEs/

  281. @Wizard of Oz

    My first attempt at responding to you in this thread was purged. It was three words:

    克服自己

    Now I add the following words for the censors: “You cannot be a real person. You have to either be a caricature or a bot.”

    But you are starting to become interesting in an artistic sort of way.

    So carry on!

  282. @annamaria

    Anamaria, rather than read this article I went straight to comments and posted a plea to Ron Unz to watch my link to Dr. Dave Martin’s presentation. I applaud you for doing the same. Can there be remaining, in the USA, one brave prosecutor? Let’s hope so, As the crimes committed effected everyone, it could be a federal, state or county prosecutor.
    Sadly it appears that in 2002 Dr. Martin nailed the cause of the Anthrax false flag, and at that time his investigation went nowhere. Pray the same doesn’t happen here.
    I think there are people in Germany, and other countries, actively seeking prosecution.

    • 回复: @Herald
  283. @Robbyj73

    实验室理论有两个目的。 一是将国家划分为不同的来源。 其次,更重要的是,要保持真实的叙述,并继续推动疫苗的发展。

    现货 Robbyj73。

    Ron Unz 开始看起来像是 1.) “团队”的成员或 2.) 一个有用的白痴。

    如果是第一次,那他的可信度正是为了这个盛大的时刻而建立起来的。

    如果是第二个(我的希望),他可能会被原谅。

    关于起源的争论是基于一个错误的前提,在建立真正的前提之前,要么是偏离(由团队成员),要么是浪费时间(由有用的白痴)。

    此评论线程似乎经过精心设计。

    • 同意: Mehen, bike-anarkist, Skeptikal
  284. @GayDad69

    Watch and LISTEN to the Dave Martin interview before commenting again. It’s worth the hour.

  285. anon[175]• 免责声明 说:

    Anti-vax is a cunning bit of neurolinguistic programming, and we see our host using the catchphrase in a careless way. The problematique is not vaccines but US industry corruption and regulatory capture. Blanket liability protection obviates duty of care. Malversation in procurement combines with ulterior constraint and coercion to institutionalize lethal drugs – we saw that with opioids, and now we see it with m-rna gene therapy.

    Existing vaccines for SARS-COV-2 are products of the most atrocious false claims in history. Suppression of alternative treatments permitted a fraudulent EUA as a pretext for coercive human experimentation of unprecedented scale. You can make a case that SARS-COV-2 vaccines are eugenic toxins, but what is indisputable that they are dangerous because they’re good enough for government work when the government is rotten to the core.

    • 谢谢: John Fisher, annamaria
    • 回复: @annamaria
  286. @John Fisher

    I will reach out to you and apologise if the vaccine turns out as you predict. I hope you will do the same to me if it doesn’t?

  287. @Triteleia Laxa

    一开始没有病毒。
    对 HIV、SARS-1、猪流感等进行了类似的尝试。
    ……无济于事!

    [更多]

    同时,邪恶,因为你喜欢真诚地做大坏事而真诚地做大坏事,这和任何事情一样罕见。 这些人通常需要非常极端的时间才能获得权力,因为他们身边的人可以感觉到,并且不会轻易提拔这些人。

    邪恶是我们过度补偿的权威,它恳求每个人都害怕自然和彼此! 在我们现代,最好的办法是让经济如此糟糕,以至于大多数人会默认保护他们的财产或财务,而不是面对当局的永久盗窃和渎职。 增加的邪恶是试图对公民进行二分法,制造恐惧、仇恨、替罪羊、美德信号等。

    当局通过非民主手段制造了所有暴力:
    缺乏立法或议会或代表的上升。 不这么认为吗?

  288. Skeptikal 说:
    @monopduly

    非常有趣的假设。

    I can’t follow all the details, but I wonder how you think the ongoing rising tide of censorship of all discussion of covid-19 and especially the treatment options, the vaccine medical fascism, and the distortion of data by means of the mainstream media and the Big Social Media corporations fits in with your scenario.

    • 回复: @monopduly
  289. Skeptikal 说:
    @Alfred

    Absolutely. RICO case. If it is possible to bring a RICO case internationally.
    The covid op is obviously a pan-national op.

    The Pandemic Gang of Six: Fauci, WHO, Wellcome, Gates, CDC, Big Pharma

    [更多]

    See Dr. David Martin,
    https://odysee.com/@Corona-Ausschuss:3/Sitzung-60-Die-Zeit-ist-kein-flacher-Kreis-5-Martin:f
    (in English; you can skip the German translation bits)

    https://www.davidmartin.world/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The_Fauci_COVID-19_Dossier.pdf

    Sure looks like plenty of smoking guns here.

    • 同意: John Fisher
  290. Pontius 说:

    可悲的是,在一个福音派家庭中长大,我可以保证数百万人将库姆的疫情视为上帝在控制并打击以色列敌人的证据。

  291. @Paul Revere

    我还没有看过 David Martin(不要与 DC Dave 混淆)的视频,但如果他说 Covid-19 并不是什么新鲜事,那很难相信。

    系统性血栓形成医生所见是该病的一个独特特征。

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
    , @Mark Hunter
  292. Skeptikal 说:
    @RudyM

    I think it is by now quite obvious that the real bioweapon is the “gene therapy vaccine,” not the

    “novel coronavirus,” which is not novel at all.

    [更多]

    彻底参与由提供的非常清晰的视频中的信息

    1. Robert Malone 博士(采访保守党女性的 Sonia Elijah),

    2. 彼得·麦卡洛博士

    3. David Martin 博士(和他的 pdf)

    suffices to provide a solid informational framework to start to divine the purposes of and identify and nail the perpetrators of this international op. Of course many side agendas have also played out, muddying the field somewhat. But once you grasp that the imposition of a “universal vaccines” is the end point of the op—the shots are not a “cure for covid19—-the fog starts to clear. That is, the “vaccine” is the reason for the pandemic; the pandemic/covid19 is not the “reason” for the gene therapy vaccines. It is a pretext for them. A cover story.

  293. @Triteleia Laxa

    同时,邪恶,因为你喜欢真诚地做大坏事而真诚地做大坏事,这和任何事情一样罕见。 这些人通常需要非常极端的时间才能获得权力,因为他们身边的人可以感觉到,并且不会轻易提拔这些人。

    Hannah Arendt Eichman in Jeruselem the Banality of Evil.

    Have you ever seen technocrats at work up close and personal? Very few ever have the time and energy left to plot evil schemes with their schedule consumed by the tasks of kissing the ass of their bosses and covering their own. When I was hired out of college some paternal guy gave me a xerox’d paragraph to explain all. It was the analogy of the sea squirt. I don’t know how biologically accurate it is but they were purported to have a caterpillar-> butterfly style metamorphosis. They swim around with a functioning brain and spinal-type central nerve and then when they mature they park like a coral. The punchline was that no longer needing their brain they then consume it.

    • 谢谢: Triteleia Laxa
  294. I will reach out to you and apologise if the vaccine turns out as you predict. I hope you will do the same to me if it doesn’t?

    I’m not biting. So just go away with your faux good intentions and passive-aggression.

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  295. @John Fisher

    How about a money bet? We can find an escrow service and put in some reasonable terms. Name a stake as high as you want and suggest some terms.

    This is open to anyone in this thread.

  296. utu 说:
    @Brás Cubas

    Thanks for your comment. I am just groping in the dark. Probably I am wrong about the role of Karl Sirotkin. Perhaps Rossana Segreto did not know Yuri Deigin prior to him publishing his work in April 2020 (Deigin claims he has published earlier on a Russian site but I haven’t been able to verify it).

    Dan Sirotkin is clearly a toxic psychopathological personality. But him stating that he once worked for the NSA got my attention. And I also wondered why Deigin would get involved with Sirotkins in the first place knowing about Dan’s past unless Karl Sirotkin was somehow essential. Now they parted their ways and there are recrimination mostly coming from the crazy Dan Sirotkin.

    Thanks for the link because I was not aware of this happening

    https://yurideigin.medium.com/on-harvard2thebighouse-expulsion-from-drastic-8992ae463add

    as well as I did not not know of Dan Sirotkin new site

    https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/the-ex-con-who-kicked-the-idiots/comments

    and I was not aware of DRASTIC Twitter group that was one of connections for Deigin and Segreto and Sirotkins

    https://www.cnet.com/features/how-the-coronavirus-origin-story-is-being-rewritten-by-a-guerrilla-twitter-group/

    “I seriously think that you are wrong by equating Quay and Deigin’s probability estimation regarding the furin cleavage with Intelligent Design theory. ” – Iirc Deigin did not make a quantitative argument. It was Quay. I glanced at his 193 page document

    https://zenodo.org/record/4477081#.YO4wuS2ZPq0

    and it gives me an impression that he threw everything he had including the kitchen sink at the problem. There is a part there where he estimates probabilities of sequences arising by natural process. My point was that the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses. It is only the beta coronavirus that do not have them at least the ones that we knew so far. How can he argue that the sequence in beta coronavirus is not possible while in other coronavirus it does exist. This is somewhat similar to the probabilistic argumentation used in the intelligent design circles. That’s why I brought up the Intelligent Design.

    I still suspect that Yuri Deigin had silent collaborators and perhaps even hidden motivators.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Brás Cubas
  297. utu 说:
    @Ron Unz

    David Martin 误导性声明(在 2020 年瘟疫视频中)在此处处理:

    新的“ Plandemic”视频兜售错误信息,阴谋
    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/

    大卫·马丁(David Martin)和专利主张

    • 谢谢: Ron Unz
    • 哈哈: thotmonger
  298. cassandra 说:
    @Robbyj73

    If this is a scam, it sure is a doozy.

    I just finished the video by Sergei Kurginian mentioned by Israel Shamir, in which mention is made of Harvard Prof Charles Lieber, who was accused of working with Chinese intel. Until this I hadn’t realized that Lieber was renowned for his work on nanowires.

    Just before that, I came across the viewgraphs (in Spanish) of a research group at the University of Almeira in Spain that a sample of COVID vaccine that they tested was mostly graphene oxide. They publish ultraviolet fluorescence data, transmission electron microscopy images, optical microscopy, and electron diffraction patterns. An interim report in English is here:
    https://carterheavyindustries.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/official-interim-report-in-english-university-of-almeria.pdf
    Fact checking sites pooh-pooh the reports’ conclusions as unsubstantiated because the vaccine package insert didn’t list graphene oxide as an ingredient (I’m not making that up).

    Turns out, graphene is commonly used for supporting nanowire circuits. It makes you wonder how little in this COVID episode is truly accidental.

    (I didn’t bring up magnets sticking to vaccinated arms lest Ron ban me.)

  299. Skeptikal 说:
    @annamaria

    AM: Excellent compilation and summary.

    谢谢。 已收藏。

    I would welcome a debate between Ron Unz and Dr. David Martin.

  300. Anon[588]• 免责声明 说:

    Mr Unz might be interested in this study published in the New England Journal of Medicine. Apparently the Chinese live-attenuated virus vaccine has very good real-life results.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2107715?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed

    Comparable to Pfizer’s real life 64%, without the creepy side effects.

  301. Ron Unz 说:
    @utu

    Thanks for your comment. I am just groping in the dark. Probably I am wrong about the role of Karl Sirotkin. Perhaps Rossana Segreto did not know Yuri Deigin prior to him publishing his work in April 2020 (Deigin claims he has published earlier on a Russian site but I haven’t been able to verify it).

    Thanks for the links, which I’ll try to take a look at. The problem is that I just don’t regard myself as having much expertise in microbiology let alone virology, so I’m not really sure I can judge these conflicting arguments on the plausibility of Covid being a natural virus. That’s the reason I tend to rely upon the analysis of others, whether experts in the field or top science journalists such as Nicholas Wade.

    顺便说一句,这正是这个特定评论线程的意图,并且将其与流感骗局、反 Vaxxery、瘟疫流行和庸医疗法混在一起会大大降低对我和其他人的用处。

    我一直忙于其他事情,我发现尽管有我的警告,很多这种废话已经悄悄出现,所以你们所有人都应该被警告,你未来的评论只会被丢弃,直到你吸取教训并离开其他地方.

    I also noticed that in direct violation of my request, a bunch of people have included multiple duplicate Bitchute versions of that crackpottery, which has made the thread very slow to load because Bitchute is “heavy.” Since I’d warned you not to do that, I went through and disabled most of them. Probably all future Bitchute comments will just get trashed.

    Unlike the vast majority of other websites, we already have lots of comment-threads open to that sort of nonsense, so you can go over to those if you want. But stay out of this one, or you’ll just end up in the trash can. If you don’t like this, the go away to some other website, and good riddance to you.

    • 同意: Rahan
  302. @Skeptikal

    我不相信特朗普的蓬佩奥或其他亲特朗普的新保守主义者用生物武器攻击中国,这与 Unz 博士的主张相反,尽管我理解他对 MIHOP 叙述的论点。

    我确实相信并在上面记录了以班农的作战室和拉希姆·卡萨姆的国家脉搏为中心的大规模新保守主义虚假信息或叙事塑造努力。 他们把责任归咎于中共是一种转移,但不是来自美国的袭击,而是来自一个私人幽灵类型的组织,私有化的雇佣军为财团工作,最近在海地的半途而废就是一个最近的例子

    强生和 mRNA 疫苗是基因疗法,而不是传统疫苗,因为他们很乐意承认。 俄罗斯疫苗是一种真正的疫苗。

    我不知道为什么他们希望每个人都接受基因治疗。 我的猜测是,很难摆脱尚未到来的助推器。 它的收入来源。

    关于财团雇佣假说,叙利亚杰出的编剧加格农从他与鲍勃·贝尔的研究中解释了世界是如何运作的。 我希望 Unz 博士仔细聆听他的主张:

    • 回复: @annamaria
  303. @Sollipsist

    I don’t know about “evil.”

    的确。

    I’m sure there are broken people who get up in the morning fully intending to cause suffering, but I doubt the wealthy and powerful are united by any conscious dedication to malice.

    Nonsense; the West is ruled by Satanists, and the fundament of Satanism is calculated evil, i.e. rising to the top not by their own merits but by bringing everything and everyone else down. Evil cannot tolerate a good example. They cannot control or compete with China for example so they try to destroy it. That’s what Satanists do; they destroy.

    Like most of us, they either fully believe in their own rightness or simply seek advantage without thinking too deeply about the consequences to others.

    No; (bad) consequences to others is what it’s all about.

    • 回复: @Sollipsist
  304. Thank You, Ron Unz for a unique line of inquiry.

    Ron’s analysis is probably the only one that looks at the strange behavior of the media – mainstream and social, and how it was likely manipulated, to help arrive at the very plausible conclusions that he has been proposing for over a year. Why Ron’s analysis gets such limited exposure is in itself very puzzling, and very very disturbing. Common sense seems to have vanished even among supposedly intelligent individuals. … Sigh.

    Deploying presumably trusted sources – Harvard professors, reputable journalists and the like, to engineer consent and social behavior has been a known technique in the CIA toolbox. Apparently, the CIA is used to deploying trusted individuals, e.g. prominent writes, to covertly promote their narratives. See:

    Keep up your line of inquiry to help seek the truth, Ron. Two Thumbs up!

  305. @Sollipsist

    The increase in wealth to billionaires at the expense of everyone else, from the start of lockdowns to now, has been called the “greatest transfer of wealth in history.” Even allowing for media hyperbole, it’s a shockingly obvious trend.

    Well what else would you expect under the circumstances? Just because Amazon for example was in a position to prosper during the pandemic doesn’t mean that “lust for money and power” (by Amazon stockholders?) was a “motive” for the release of SARS-CoV-2.

    • 回复: @Sollipsist
  306. It’s funny how Exponential Unz never addresses one very inconvenient truth: the average age of a coronasnuffles decedent is 更高* than average human lifespan in the US and every European nation. Viz:

    Imagine, if you will, a virus so deadly that it increases average human lifespan.

    To whatever degree the elderly died in greater numbers over the past year, it was 因为* of facediapering and solitary confinement, not in spite of these barbaric and demeaning “health measures” [sic]. Hard men in prison tremble at the prospect of solitary confinement – I have seen it firsthand.

    Further, if every man, woman, and child supra 80 years old died 现在可以做些什么*, it would not be a crisis – period, end of discussion. Almost no one over 80 does anything productive or civilization-sustaining.

    *emphasis in author’s original

    • 谢谢: John Fisher
  307. Dumbo 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    over the next year as vaccinated people go back to normal, and transmission ramps us.

    I doubt there will be a “back to normal”.Yes, the outer appearances (masks etc) will go out, but the control mechanisms and the possibility to use them for other purposes will remain.

    I don’t think that the vaccine is the main desired outcome, but the tracking apps, the societal changes, things such as digital cash, and the use of mRNA therapy for several other purposes in the future.

    The problem of the vaccine is that it may (?) reduce symptoms, but it’s clearly showing that it’s useless to stop transmission (and apparently, even death, as almost 50% of the dead with Delta in the UK were fully vaccinated people). So even if you vaccinate all the population on the Earth, the virus doesn’t go away. Does it became like a new flu and you need a vaccine every year, like the flu vaccine? Or do you simply accept that you may get Covid one day, like you get the flu every now and then?

    Well, even before vaccines existed, diseases used to come and go, they never kill everyone, so perhaps it will disappear by itself.

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
    , @Skeptikal
  308. @Dieter Kief

    “然后你会听到呃呃呃
    43:46 拉尔夫巴里克承认
    43:48 如果他们不想让你知道
    43:50 他们制作的是在人类实验室中制作的
    43:53 他们可以让它看起来像
    43:55 自然发生的“

  309. @Ron Unz

    “俄罗斯、美国、中国、以色列、伊朗和其他所有国家都在使用各种疫苗来抗击新冠病毒,而他们的领导人都没有对这个恶魔般的阴谋发表任何言论,所以他们都在一起了吗? “

    同意。 这是一个荒谬的想法。

    因此,“富豪统治”{通过其对媒体和政治进程的控制,例如英国的 J. Corbyn?,仍然没有受到挑战?} 故意{或应 WHG 的要求?} 使成千上万的年轻人失业并可能扰乱粮食供应?
    有人起义吗?

  310. TTSSYF 说:
    @lysias

    He’s 80 years old. Why is he still working?

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
  311. @Ron Unz

    I hadn’t looked at that video but, like you glanced at the written purported summary and was not greatly impressed. Eventually I began listening to the video but went to sleep before it got beyond the prima facie likely-to-be relevant discussion of patent searches. I gather I didn’t miss much food for the critical intellect. But please allow me to put in further mild plea to you and others to make use of podcasts of respectable broadcast programs, especially the likes of our ABC’s Science Show and Health Report (and of course Geraldine Doogue’s ABC Saturday Extra on which she no.inated a possible 4.5 million as the sacred Holocaust figure without objection). I live on a park in which during a 30 -40 minute walk I can sample several podcast interviews and, if points to follow up overflow memory I can easily scribble a memo on phone or wrist.

  312. Skeptikal 说:
    @Mark Hunter

    Mark, I think you might be comparing apples and oranges.

    My understanding from a number of sources is that it is the spike protein in both the virus and the “vaccines” that is causing inflammatory symptoms in the vascular system.

    I do suggest that you watch the video first before deciding you understand what Dr. David Martin is saying about the thousands of patents already taken out on coronaviruses generally and the 73 taken out on the gene sequence in question now or other very similar ones.

  313. Erebus 说:
    @utu

    A gold-boxed comment referring to an official censor in a comment thread pursuant to an article who’s title begins with the words American Pravda… The mind’s eye blinks in disbelief at the sight.

    The irony isn’t diluted by the censor site’s failure to address Dr. Martin’s primary point. Namely, that the patent and patent application record exposes the patent holders as a public-private cabal with deep conflicts of interest and full control of the virus, the spike protein, the tests and the vaccines. The circle is fully closed outside of the patent record in that some of the patent owners also have the power to authorize, if not mandate the use of the patented vaccines at their whim and further to suppress alternative vaccines and treatments.

    That this interlocking matrix of patent protection and institutional power didn’t arise organically is patent. In fact, it looks like a textbook case of racketeering. That is the thrust of Dr. Martin’s presentations. That you and factcheck.org ignore it in favour of tilting at incidentals is something we’ve all come to expect.

    • 同意: Skeptikal
  314. @Ron Unz

    Can I confirm that you give no weight or credence to any of the insinuations that Fauci has done anything sinister? About a year ago a lifelong friend who had been Chief Medical Officer for the Australian Government (at the yime of the original SARS I hink), a man of unimpeachable integrity, said he knew and had worked with Fauci and had no doubt he was honestly s serving the public interest. It seems to me that Fauci was very keen to anticipate future pandemics and to prepare vaccines and other measures against them. “Gain of function” aka genetic engineering, was an essential part of that and there is no need to suspect any wrongdoing in his finding a workaround Obama’s ban so that a laboratory in China, staffed by a number of people known to him, could work on something of potential utility to both China and the US.

    Not totally unconnected: how do you rate the timing of Event 201 just before the Wuhan outbreak as a relevant coincidence compared to the significance you see in the outbreak being well timed for New Year holiday visits to family in other provinces of China.? I don’t see anything sinister in Event 201 but why isn’t it’s timing as significant as the Chinese New Year? (On reflection I think the military games would have been avoided as likely to throw suspicion on some American team hangers on of no clear sporting relevance).

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  315. Kali 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Without realising it, you are 所有 making arguments born out of psychological need

    (我的重点。)

    Which, of course, conveniently saves you the time and effort of actually considering and evaluating the merits or demerits of any arguments made by any one here.

    One can only assume, such is your own “psychological need”.

    I can’t think why, but suddenly I’m reminded of Monty Pythons’ Mr Gumby visiting the Gumby doctor:
    “Are you de… brain specialist?” (Funny scatch. You should look it up.)

    问候,
    卡利

    (P.S. @Ron Unz – (Our very own “cult leader! – Who knew? ) Thank you for altering my username as per my reply to Commenter Mike. Appreciated.)

    • 同意: Mehen
    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  316. @TTSSYF

    Using one’s brain to solve interesting problems and do something useful to mankind would surely be enough. Think of Supreme Court judges. To be paid to do it and have authority to implement one’s ideas must make it just about irresistible.

    • 回复: @PetrOldSack
  317. @James N. Kennett

    It was in our local West Australian. I talked about it for months before finally ringing the paper in Perth. I asked for the reporter who was writing about Port Arthur in the days following. Got put onto a guy who confirmed he wrote it, that the story was checked out. I asked what more came of it, and he said he was taken off the story next day and put onto something else.

    It was within days of the event. Very early reporting. I knew Joe Vialls, he was practically a neighbor. I was going to see him the day he died. I’ve got family in Tassie who know the Gunshop owner they tried to frame up. They wrecked the man’s life the bastards.

  318. Anon62 说:
    @Mehen

    Her name is “Maatje Benassi”

    An Army reservist recently found herself at the center of the coronavirus conspiracy mill after she participated in the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan, China, last fall.

    Sgt. 1st Class Maatje Benassi competed in cycling for the U.S. team during the October games, placing 8th in the 50-mile race despite suffering bruised ribs and a cracked helmet after crashing in the final stretch.


    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/04/28/conspiracies-falsely-accuse-an-army-reservist-of-being-patient-zero-of-coronavirus-pandemic/

    评论
    The story refutes allegations that either Benassi or her husband (also active military) have ever had COVID-19.

    Benassi is reported to have a security occupation at Fort Belvoir VA. Fort Belvoir is in close proximity to Springfield and Burke two towns which experienced an unexplained outbreak of an unusual pneumonia in senior citizen facilities.

  319. skrik 说:
    @IronForge

    Thanks for the well thought out post.

    *Possibly Leaked/Stolen/Tested_as_Bioweapon in stages to see who it kills

    Ah! You mean some way of *evaluating* some ‘critical’ component(s)? How ‘funny’ then, that a mystery lung disease (from which 68 died), the symptoms of which included turning blue and pink-foam choking to death, then post-mortem ‘ground-glass’ lung x-ray images, ‘uncannily similar’ to fatal CoV-2 cases, again ‘mysteriously’ turned up then waned away [see Mr Utz’ “During 2019 there had been a flurry of unusual respiratory illnesses across America” and my #59 above]. The ‘mystery lung disease’ was called EVALI – perhaps an ‘encoded’ form of ‘evaluation,’ eh?

    But I especially do not like this bit [apparently correct]:

    *All Workable Treatments outside of the “Developing Vaxx” due to be released in Late 2020 were suppressed+censored in favor of the Future Vaxx

    *一* effective treatment would blow *全部* EUA to bits. rgds

  320. Ron Unz 说:
    @truthdigger

    Thank You, Ron Unz for a unique line of inquiry.

    Ron’s analysis is probably the only one that looks at the strange behavior of the media – mainstream and social, and how it was likely manipulated, to help arrive at the very plausible conclusions that he has been proposing for over a year. Why Ron’s analysis gets such limited exposure is in itself very puzzling, and very very disturbing. Common sense seems to have vanished even among supposedly intelligent individuals. … Sigh.

    感谢您的客气话。

    Although certainly disturbing, the media/journalistic silence really isn’t entirely surprising, and I alluded to the reasons near the end of the first section of my very long article. Various somewhat prominent journalists have privately told me flat-out they fully agree with my analysis, but they obviously won’t say anything. Others have told me they can’t mention my theory, even just to attack or denounce it, for fear of being “cancelled.” Obviously, this means that many other journalists or intellectuals never hear about it in the first place.

    Meanwhile, there are an infinitude of videos or columns on the Internet promoting the most ridiculous sort of nonsense regarding vaccines, “patented viruses,” and Bill Gates’ diabolical plan to exterminate most of humanity.

    If you were the Deep State Neocons who probably caused this global disaster, which would you be more concerned about? Releasing a huge amount of such “chaff” is a good way of distracting people from considering that really happened.

  321. @Caspar von Everec

    I’m not sold on Ron’s theory but I think you may be ignoring important features of it. One is that he attributes the attack on China to a small group of rogue actors, not necessarily elderly, and, clearly, not well up on what might happen to America if borders weren’t closed or the precedents of SARS and MERS weren’t appropriate to predict what might happen.

  322. Erebus 说:
    @Ron Unz

    坦率地说,我不确定我从未从视频中得到任何有用的东西,所以我几乎从不看它们。

    尽管存在三重否定,但现实是,在这个世界上,如果有人希望广泛传播信息,那么最有效的方式就是视频格式。

    How many more people are aware of Doctors Yeadon’s, McCullough’s, Bhakdi’s, Tenpenny’s, Fleming’s, Malone’s, et al along with various groups of health practitioners’ thoughts and opinions on matters surrounding this pandemic due to their video interviews than would have even heard of them had they simply been published in some obscure journal that would accept and publish their paper? Orders of magnitude more, I’d warrant.

    You yourself claimed to have never heard of Dr. Malone, who’s almost as famous as they come in mRNA circles, but I’d bet my last dollar that more people know at least a few of those names than have ever heard of Ron Unz. That is not trivial if one has a message, and all those named feel that they have a message of vital interest to the public.

    Sure, some videos get a little hyperbolic and/or erroneous, but we’ve surely seen that just as often and just as egregiously in print. Most of the videos I’ve watched that intended to inform in this area are in the form of an interview/conversation with a prominent expert in the field of interest, and can be an eminently useful introduction to the subject matter.

    但是,如果有人不想花时间至少写一篇简短的书面文章来概述他试图证明的内容,那么那里可能什么都没有。

    Most of them have, and the message dies. Why doesn’t UR invite some or all of the names mentioned above to write “a short article” for this e-zine with a promise to give it more than sidebar prominence?

    • 同意: Truth Vigilante
  323. @truthdigger

    Apparently, the CIA is used to deploying trusted individuals, e.g. prominent writes, to covertly promote their narratives.

    Irony, thy name is truthdigger. LOL

  324. Anonymous[267]• 免责声明 说:

    A thousand thanks, Cassandra, for the Martin transcript,

    https://www.covidtruths.co.uk/2021/07/reiner-fuellmich-interviews-dr-david-martin-cdc-patent-fraud/

    Martin’s detailed investigation is extremely valuable. He reinforces Francis Boyle’s sources, civil society domain experts who have been monitoring US BWTC breaches.

    His timeline shows that the building blocks of the virus were being assembled around the turn of the century. That is when former DCI Bob Gates was at UT, overseeing compartmented biological weapons development at non-governmental research institutes nationwide.

    After publicly telling a UT audience that he loved it at UT and there was nothing for him in Washington, he skedaddled to the SecDef job. Why? His university researchers started dropping like flies from selected agents. UT waited a year to report it and took and the most draconian research suspension in US history, to cover Gates’ ass.

    Naturally, Big Pharma was profiteering from the grant bonanza and the privatized benefits of public research. Naturally Big Pharma doesn’t give a shit about safety or efficacy – they got complete liability protection. But Big Pharma was not driving the research. The prime mover was a CIA arms race.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  325. Kali 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    They told me my contributions were “out of this world” Wiz. – Or may have done if they’d told me anything at all.

    Try lemon juice (one or 2 lemons per day) to reduce the size of kidney stones. Works well for my gall stones.

    最良好的祝愿,
    卡利

    • 谢谢: Wizard of Oz
  326. @utu

    Factcheck 不太热衷于 Unz 评论。

    https://www.factcheck.org/2018/05/bezos-didnt-endorse-michelle-obama-for-2020/

    仅供参考

    https://www.factcheck.org/our-funding/

    我们不接受来自公司的资金,但 Facebook 提供资金,作为 Facebook 揭穿病毒式欺骗计划的一部分,谷歌提供了一次性赠款以支持我们在 19 年的 COVID-2020 报道。公司既不寻求也不对我们的编辑决定有任何控制权。

    那么,没关系。

  327. Ron Unz 说:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Can I confirm that you give no weight or credence to any of the insinuations that Fauci has done anything sinister?

    As far as I can tell, Fauci was somewhat involved in funding the viral research of the Wuhan lab. Obviously, this became a huge concern to him when Trump and others began claiming that Covid was a bioengineered virus leaked from that lab, so he seems to have tried to cover up his involvement and help support the effort to have Covid disingenuously regarded as a natural virus, even what virologists privately told him it looked artificial. That’s certainly dishonest, but not very surprising, and it hardly makes him the henchman of Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab in their diabolical plot to exterminate most of the world.

    Not totally unconnected: how do you rate the timing of Event 201 just before the Wuhan outbreak as a relevant coincidence

    Sure, that’s certainly suspicious. But don’t forget that Robert Kadlec, one of America’s top biowarfare advocates, was brought into the Trump Administration in 2017, and then by 2018 and 2019, China was being hit by mysterious viral epidemics that devastated its poultry and pigs.

    So it seems plausible that if plans were also being considered for a Covid-type attack, vague suggestions/gossip of the growing possibility of a global virus epidemic might start floating around in elite circles, and this eventually persuaded the World Economic Forum people to organize their Event 201 exercise, even though almost none of the participants would have had actual knowledge of the plot.

    Under this plausible reconstruction, the general idea behind Event 201 might have been linked to plans for the attack, but the particular timing was probably coincidental.

    I find it much more suspicious that Kadlec had spent January-August 2019 personally running an American governmental simulation-exercise called “Crimson Contagion,” in which our government departments tried to protect the US from infection by a sudden huge viral respiratory epidemic in China. The Wuhan outbreak of exactly that type began two months after the exercise ended:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion

    There’s a 3,000 word “纽约时报” story describing all the details, so it’s hardly a “crazy conspiracy theory.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html

    • 谢谢: Wizard of Oz
    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  328. @Dumbo

    While the vaccine is only suppressing transmission, it has drastically lowered the death rate.

    The UK, where people have been socialising like crazy, has reached 36,000 cases a day. The last time the UK was at this rate, it also had 357 deaths a day; now it has only 50, most of which are antivaxx holdouts.

    I don’t think that the vaccine is the main desired outcome, but the tracking apps, the societal changes, things such as digital cash, and the use of mRNA therapy for several other purposes in the future.

    They could have easily brought in proper tracking apps at the beginning if the pandemic, but didn’t. This was remarkably pro-liberty of them; if according to my sadly lowered standards.

    The rest is just the direction of technology and what those in charge think would be best for the countries they govern. We can disagree with them, but it is hardly surprising when hammers always see nails.

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  329. @Kali

    Which, of course, conveniently saves you the time and effort of actually considering and evaluating the merits or demerits of any arguments made by any one here.

    Already done that. There are very few merits and a lot of demerits.

    1. The military games isn’t cover. It is anti-cover. It would be the very worst time to seed a virus in Wuhan. Incompetence can’t explain the US using the absolutely worst time.

    2. The most contagious virus in the world is the very worst weapon to use against your biggest trade partner. Incompetence doesn’t explain using the very worst weapon at your disposal.

    3. The US had an anti-plan for if this particular virus escaped China. Everything they thought they knew about it, was the opposite of the truth, from symptom free transmission being missed, to certainty that it was not airborne. Even the CDC tests were wrong. You might perhaps claim that the US would not have a vaccine for its own virus, at a tremendous stretch, but to claim that they would know absolutely nothing about its characteristics is just so stupid.

    The idea that the US used the worst possible weapon, at the worst possible time and knew nothing about their own weapon, is a clown show that has gone on for over a year. It needed analysis of the participants.

    Notice, also how my analysis is so spot on that it has perfect predictive power for how people would try to “understand” each other? Kind of amazing for a psychological analysis on the internet.

    • 哈哈: Skeptikal
  330. SBaker 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I haven’t commented here in quite sometime; I am not a politician from some 3rd world country and became bored with the ridiculous diatribes always pointing the finger at the civilized world to plae the blame for failures of their own making. I know something about biological agents and bioscience in general. Ron’s first comment is right on target. In early 2020, I expressed my concern about the bio-attack, primarily economic in nature, on the western world. The Chicoms have escaped their responsibility by blaming the west and covering their tracks–our media helped. Half the people in the US sided with China to hang the blame on President Trump–the old media empire has a powerful way of influencing the dull-witted and half the country followed.

  331. @Ron Unz

    China was being hit by mysterious viral epidemics that devastated its poultry and pigs.

    Ye, just like the EU tried to economically disable the UK by secretly funding a British Union of Chimneysweeps. Really going for the jugular.

    • 回复: @skrik
    , @Iris
  332. Iris 说:
    @truthdigger

    Deploying presumably trusted sources – Harvard professors, reputable journalists and the like, to engineer consent and social behavior has been a known technique in the CIA toolbox. Apparently, the CIA is used to deploying trusted individuals, e.g. prominent writes, to covertly promote their narratives.

    This judgement of yours is correct and can unfortunately be extended to scientists.

    No need to dwell on the buffoons who have signed the 9/11 NIST engineering report, which was ridiculed at the time by high school-level Physics teachers, and has now been completely obliterated by the independent University of Alaska WTC7 collapse study, proving controlled demolition.

    The worst example of intellectual prostitution and public deception was the experiment carefully and trickily designed by Physics Noble Prize laureate Luis Alvarez, of all people, where he used an empty melon to “prove” that a headshot from the back could still project President Kennedy to the back, against common sense.

  333. Dumbo 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It doesn’t seem to be suppressing or reducing transmission at all…
    Death rate, maybe, but I don’t trust any of their statistics… Anything can be manipulated.

    Also, you forget we are in Summer in the North Hemisphere now… Last Summer things seemed to be improving too…

    We will see what happens in the Winter, I guess.

    As long as this story ends and we don’t hear anymore so much about it, I’m happy.

    But I fear they already have other “next pandemic” in the works. This was a great success for certain people, so I’d expect a repeat.

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  334. @Ron Unz

    I found the following Covid19 timelines interesting. Not really much new info and mileage may vary, but both timelines seemingly support your hypothesis.

    The YouTube video mentions up to a 24 day incubation period. I had to back into longer incubation periods to make your timeline work. Just thoughts, I haven’t followed this nearly as closely as you and others. Fyi, Dr. Eric Topol was involved in the Merck-Vioxx debacle.

    • 回复: @Blackjack
  335. Kali 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    A short while ago, commenting on one of Gilad Atzmons’ threads, I suggested you read The Controvercy of Zion by Douglas Reed, as featured on the home page of this website.

    I also suggested that you take a look at Rons’ American Pravda series.

    从你在这个帖子中的评论来看,很明显你没有做过。

    I can only guess that your “subtle” thinking proccess precludes you from admiting new information which may lead to accute or critical thinking on your part.

    但无论如何,请做简单的阅读更多。 它可能会有所帮助。

    问候,
    Free, unvaccinated Kali in Portugal. 😉

  336. skrik 说:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Because I’m a ‘data-pack-rat’ I have downloaded the video you cited:

    “刺突蛋白非常危险,具有细胞毒性(罗伯特·马龙、史蒂夫·基尔希、布雷特·温斯坦)”

    But I don’t usually ‘do’ videos, preferring [cut’n paste capable] text.

    Now, I do know that the CoV-2 spike strongly resembles that of RaTG13 (bat,Yunnan), with the RBD/RBM apparently ‘snipped’ from MP789 (pangolin,Guangdong), whether that was by ‘natural’ recombination [kindly note that for that to happen, a covid-sick bat would have to be close enough to a similarly covid-sick pangolin, so that they actually exchanged bodily fluids *和* one of them became doubly-infected, the ‘magic’ of equivalent-component recombination of *确切地* the most critical component (to enable binding to human ACE2) *然后* the infection would have to endure through multiple further infections, *最后* zoonotically ‘jumping’ to some human … phew! … OR by genetic manipulation = GoF in a) WIV AND/OR b) Ft. Detrick – phew again.]

    So [to cut a long story short] can you cite a proper, peer-reviewed paper that proves that the CoV-2 spike is cytotoxic? rgds

    PS The covid-sick MP789 pangolin captured as an intending illegal import was one of a batch, which was transferred to an animal shelter where, unfortunately, they all died. A witness said “They (the pangolins) were all crying.”

  337. @Titus Jerusalem Smasher

    Good points. Certain countries would be behind it, but they seem to be in league with private companies acting as proxies for an agenda, driven by certain bad actors. I don’t pretend to have all the answers, just an intuition that this is, as some other commenters have pointed out, not a China – USA thing, but a worldwide power grab.

  338. Skeptikal 说:
    @truthdigger

    It seems that “mainstream” doctors and scientists are keeping their heads down.
    Many of them are beholden to Big Pharma.

    Even if not, they have jobs, families, mortgages.

    The few who speak up and attempt to explain to a lay public some of the things that are wrong with the current picture are immediately labeled “truthers” or some such.

    There has never been a greater need for critical thinking.

    Nothing can replace that. We are in a fog-of-war situation. Information warfare.

    Some are “regulars” and some are guerrillas. Some are “regiments” and some are Indians.

    你明白了。

  339. @Dumbo

    It doesn’t seem to be suppressing or reducing transmission at all…

    There has been a tremendous surge in other respiratory diseases, recently. This reflects the fact that people are socialising much more than they ever did during Covid-19, when no one seemed to get any other illness that was contagious.

    This means that the vaccine has likely been good at suppressing transmission but far from a solution.

    The real point is that it has drastically lowered the lethality rate of the virus. You may be skeptical of official statistics, but I know doctors who see the evidence of this every day.

    But I fear they already have other “next pandemic” in the works. This was a great success for certain people, so I’d expect a repeat.

    These newer variants are a genuine worry. There is now a lot of evolutionary pressure on Covid-19 to continue to mutate in ways that will make the vaccines less effective at suppressing transmission. New vaccines for newer variants will be rolled out, much as they are for the flu. One hope, though, is that the virus will continue to mutate to escape the transmission suppression of the vaccine but not escape the vaccine’s effects on reducing lethality as much.

    A Covid-19 strain that was twice as infectious but non-lethal would end the disease as a concern of anyone. It would swiftly out-compete the current pandemic.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
    , @Dumbo
  340. @truthdigger

    It is eye-opening to see how many Boomer 反主流文化 heroes and icons were on the CIA payroll. Jackson Pollack, Peter Matthiessen, and too many others to list. Those limousine liberals skewered by Tom Wolfe were on the grift by the hundreds.

    Also Saunders’ book was vetted by the agency so all the best parts got deleted. For all we know the Beatles and the Rolling Stones could have been parts. The project was that huge.

    • 谢谢: Skeptikal
  341. Skeptikal 说:
    @Dumbo

    We are all familiar with the notion and I believe established fact that the overuse of antibiotics both prophylactically and as treatment has created selection pressure that has resulted in the evolution of strains of bacteria that are resistant to said antibiotics.

    It doesn’t require an above-average IQ to grasp the fact that overuse of “vaccines” that merely suppress symptoms but do not cure the disease nor kill the virus is creating an analogous selection-pressure situation.

    Still, those with intact immune systems and robust general health will be far better equipped to fend off all of these viruses, delta to lambda, alpha to omega, which deviate from the “original” by no more than 3%.

    • 谢谢: Kali
  342. Blackjack 说:
    @Ron Unz

    阅读 TUR 多年,并且非常感谢其发表有争议的文章,无论政治观点如何,看到 RU 的#1 评论让我感到震惊。 将“非正统的医学疗法称为切线问题”然后在此处审查他们的讨论对本网站的实际性质具有非常严重的影响。 究竟什么是“反Vaxery”?

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    作者是不是认真的意思是,实际上强加于美国每个人手臂的实验性基因疗法是一种真正的疫苗? 他愿意证明这一点吗? 他是不是不知道 VAERS 报告的数据,尽管有缺陷,但已经表明这些注射由于多种原因已经证明它们是极其危险的,应该立即停止? 任何关注过这些数据的人都可以随处找到这些数据,但在 Steve Kersch 的文章(https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/) 由 Mark Hunter 在评论 #273 中链接。 有趣的是,RU 对 Mark Hunter 评论的回复包括对 Kersch 先生的简单人身攻击。 RU 是否也害怕回答 Kersch 先生提出的事实?

    自从钻石公主号游轮和美国海军舰艇的 Covid 数据以来,很明显,Covid 远没有尼尔弗格森、MSM、政府和公共卫生当局所宣称的那样具有毒性或传染性世界各地。 因此,很明显,解决这种病毒性疾病的方法不是在疫苗中,而是通过自然群体免疫和对绝大多数健康人的病毒治疗。 当盖茨、福奇、雷德菲尔德等人开始推动“疫苗优步”这一主题时,很明显这种“疫苗解决方案”正在酝酿中。 现在,一年后,随着数据、广泛的病例报告、对诚实医生和科学家信息的压制表明,注射被揭露是主要的,如果不是主要的,那么实际上是幕后黑手的武器。除了拉动字符串的微小内部团体之外,对全人类的未宣战。

    在评论#4 中,James Forrestal 提出了这个问题,并认为这是犹太复国主义者和中共之间的勾结。 实际上,这对我来说很有意义。 唯一有悖于这一假设的事实是,以色列犹太人口中强制接种疫苗的比例很高。 但这并不是犹太复国主义者第一次将自己的人口扔到公共汽车下。 再举一个例子,只需追溯到 80-90 年前。

    • 谢谢: Skeptikal, PetrOldSack
  343. Skeptikal 说:
    @Anonymous

    “Why? His university researchers started dropping like flies from selected agents. UT waited a year to report it and took and the most draconian research suspension in US history,”

    Can you provide some documentation on this?

    谢谢!

  344. @utu

    My point was that the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses.

    If you think it is irrelevant that those sequences do not exist in betacoronaviruses, shouldn’t it be equally irrelevant that they do exist in other types of coronaviruses?
    I mean, your point seems to be that one can’t predict mutations based on what already exists.

    This is not to say that I know how to calculate any of those probabilities. I am just sticking to the logic of the thing.

    • 回复: @utu
    , @skrik
  345. Sollipsist 说:
    @Harold Smith

    That’s assuming there was an intentional “release” that requires a motive. I don’t have enough certainty to make that assumption. On the other hand, evidence of human fallibility and opportunism is all around us, every day. People are far more full of mistakes and casual selfishness than they are of intent to cause harm.

  346. skrik 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Troll: I**3 = 识别、告知、忽略。

  347. Sollipsist 说:
    @Harold Smith

    Are you talking about a literal devil-worshipping cult that the most powerful people in the world consciously belong to, or is this more of a metaphorical description of an amoral mindset among the powerful?

  348. Blackjack 说:
    @Herd Stupidity

    Do you have sources on Dr. Topol’s role in the Vioxx case?

  349. BaronAsh 说:

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-racketeering-and-corruption-that-led-to-man-made-covid-virus-being-unleashed/

    An article published today (July 14) about all this. In a sane, honest world, this would be on the headlines of every paper. I think that it could add to Ron’s lead article here, taking it into new levels both of detail and scope.

    No matter how it all shakes out, at some point it will be impossible to deny that from a macro perspective, the entire SARS/COVID dynamic involves coordinated geopolitical regime change / command and control elements that seem to be at the helm.

    For decades various US Presidents warned about the behemoth being built in DC – Military-Industrial-Complex, The Money Power, Deep State, Intelligence etc. – and now it is becoming increasingly obvious as the last US election results are being substantively challenged (better late than never) that unless and until at least the Intelligence aspect is thoroughly dismantled that the old nation state system we have all lived in for generations now is about to be scrapped.

    In any case, hopefully some heads will roll about all this covid business.
    (Not holding breath, though!)

  350. Anonymous[103]• 免责声明 说:

    Wow, Skeptical 351, it’s remarkably well scrubbed, which in today’s modern totalitarian world is corroborating evidence. I can reconstruct it with bookmarks and 档案馆 when I’m in the mood. U. of Arizona also had a lot of the most batshit work at the time. СВР РФ doubtless filed it all away for the climactic war crimes trials, because that was contemporaneous with Fruitfly, if you recall, which was primarily trained on Battelle, the guys who would do the most illegal touchy parts.

  351. Kali 说:
    @Ron Unz

    If you were the Deep State Neocons who probably caused this global disaster, which would you be more concerned about? Releasing a huge amount of such “chaff” is a good way of distracting people from considering that really happened.

    Fair point, Mr Unz, but contained within all of that chaff are some very significant grains of truth.

    Unlike some other commenters here, I do understand why your focus has stayed on the initial outbreak/biowarfare attack. But I once again implore you to a deeper consideration of the near uniform Western response and its impacts on all of our lives.

    With that in mind, a week or so ago I read an open letter to members of the British government from a lawyer representing a former NHS practitioner, which succinctly and straight forwardly outlines most of “our” primary concerns.

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    Please do take a look, Mr Unz. I promise that it is entitely free of chaff, IMHO.

    Here’s a link to the pdf:
    https://lexmaxims.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/letter-to-sir-simon-stevens.pdf

    Or it can be read online here:
    https://principia-scientific.com/doctors-damning-legal-letter-on-nhs-covid-misconduct/

    It was also featured in Off Guardian, but was difficult to read on that sight where the pdf was “embedded” and cut whole paragraohs out.

    I assure you, if the aftermath wasn’t at least as earth-shatteringly important as the initial attack I would gladly shut up about it!

    最良好的祝愿,
    卡利

  352. utu 说:
    @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, there are an infinitude of videos or columns on the Internet promoting the most ridiculous sort of nonsense regarding vaccines, “patented viruses,” and Bill Gates’ diabolical plan to exterminate most of humanity.

    I would be very interested in reading an analysis of this phenomenon. A good taxonomy of that zoo would be handy. To what extent it is organic and grassroots and which part of it is being steered and by whom. There are articles looking at anti-vaxxers beliefs and psychological profiles. In the US and in fact in all Five Eyes countries (in Canada in particular) the correlation (0.4-0.5) with conspiratorial thinking among the anti-vaxxers is higher than in other countries. Twice as high as in Chile (0.2).

    A concern about vaccination is normal and understandable. People look at side effects and they worry. There were cases of Guillain-Barre syndrom which is serious and very rare disease (I know because I had it) form swine flu vaccine in the US and the vaccinations were stopped. More recently there were side effects from MMR vaccine in Japan and also the vaccinations were suspended.

    But then there is this paranoid style of thinking about vaccines which IMO is particularly virulent in the US and Canada. One part of it is that the greedy and unscrupulous corporations want to make money disregarding our needs and rights and the other part of it is that ‘they’ want to kill us or something even worse like turn us into zombies with brains directly connected via the G5 network to Bill Gates basement.

    Is it possible as you seem to insinuate that the anti-vaxx conspiracy theories are a part of Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration? Is it possible that there are strong external and foreign influences?

    We know that the USSR engaged in conspiracy trolling like the Operation INFEKTION in 1980s in relation to AIDS. Also more recently several years ago vaccination debate was heavily infiltrated by Russian bots and trolls during the measles outbreak.

    武器化的健康传播:推特机器人和俄罗斯巨魔放大了疫苗辩论
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6137759/

    There is no doubt that Russian media and websites were engaged in amplifying doubts about western vaccines just as earlier during the pandemic they were amplifying doubts about lockdowns and masking.
    _________

    As far as your concern that the thread is cluttered with too much nonsense you have means to fix it. You just need to find a resolve to do it. But then who will comment under your articles? As the saying goes if you go to bed with dogs you wake with fleas. Your webzine is one of the greatest disinformation source. You have been giving platform to writers spreading all kinds of disinformation, foreign propaganda and all kinds of nonsense about the pandemic.

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
    , @Skeptikal
  353. utu 说:
    @Brás Cubas

    ” I am just sticking to the logic of the thing.” – In a wrong way. I think you do not or do not want to understand my point. Let me use Ralph Baric’s argument he used on Quay: we do not know what is out there, what is the pool of coronaviruses.

    • 回复: @Brás Cubas
  354. SkyBot 说: • 您的网站
    @Emblematic

    If DJ Trump made an oral ex.ord. concerning the realease of the virus like “do something but I don’t want to know what you ‘ll do …” that would explain the behavour of the deep state and Trump during the election

  355. Ron Unz 说:
    @utu

    Is it possible as you seem to insinuate that the anti-vaxx conspiracy theories are a part of Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration? Is it possible that there are strong external and foreign influences?

    That wouldn’t surprise me. As I suggested in my article, the promoters of these various type of nonsense are probably a mixture of sincere advocates, self-serving charlatans, and disinformation operatives. But it’s very hard to say what the mix would be.

    The anti-vaxxers have been around for a while, and I doubt they started with any sort of government prompting. At least here in California, it was mostly affluent suburban women I think. But now that it’s merged with the various Covid conspiracies, maybe someone is using them as “chaff.” It’s obviously easier to get people deplatformed if you can argue they’re creating a huge health crisis.

    I don’t know anything about vaccines and haven’t bothered looking into the issue, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the anti-vaxxers are correct that the Covid vaccines are far, far more dangerous than the typical ones. After all, they were developed so extremely quickly, with minimal testing. I think I’ve seen claims that they’ve already killed 6,000 Americans.

    But let’s suppose that that’s correct and they’re horrifically dangerous by vaccine standards, killing 6,000/200 million people = 0.003%. That’s still more than two orders of magnitude better than Covid itself, which has a 0.5+% fatality rate.

    • 回复: @Dumbo
  356. skrik 说:
    @Brás Cubas

    1st from utu @303 then from you Brás Cubas @352 [this subject mentioned by michael888 @157]:

    My point was that the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses

    I’m presuming that you are referring to [what else?] the PRRA polybasic furin cleavage site insertion? IF so THEN kindly listen up: AFAIK, the PRRA insert is, to coin a phrase, 非常独特. It not only does not occur in any betacoronaviruses, it does not occur anywhere else at all [I did see one ‘claimant’ mention ENaC but no proof was provided, nor could I find any.] Worse, the PRRA insert uses human-type codons [mentioned by Deigin; “Odd CGG-CGG codon” ... “Most common codon for arginine in humans” = PRRA would most likely have to be human-sourced, and appears as an out-of-frame insertion to boot] as opposed to coronavirus-type codons [chicken/egg? Do I need to stress this? Recombination works by swapping like for like – there is no like. CoV-2 couldn’t infect humans without PRRA so it couldn’t be incorporated before infection = contradiction.] That’s enough for now; your task is to produce some proof of the assertion:

    the same sequences exist in other coronaviruses

    Just show us *一* “same sequence,” with credible proof, OK?

    My posit [repeat]: PRRA is a) lab-made and b) the ‘smoking gun.’ Find out who put it in, prepare the gallows; but only after the success of the \$squillion-suit for the crimes causing damages to humanity. All as usual and only IMHO. rgds

    • 谢谢: Brás Cubas
    • 回复: @utu
  357. Anon[264]• 免责声明 说:
    @Anon

    “This is a US government attack of unprecedented lethality with the most disproportionate and indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction ever devised.”

    Which is the weapon, again, the vaxx or the bug?

  358. @Kali

    哪些作品给了你最大的内心烟火感?

    • 回复: @Mehen
    , @Kali
  359. Mehen 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Douglas Reed’s “The Controversy of Zion” is a dense, magisterial work. I have not finished it myself as it is quite a slog, so I don’t begrudge anyone turning down the recommendation on that basis.

    Fortunately, today’s your lucky day, Triteilia. Here is quite good 40 page review of the book for someone who wants the “Cliff’s Notes” version. The reviewer also goes a bit into the author’s background/pedigree, the circumstances surrounding the writing of the book, and the aftermath in the wake of the book’s publication.

    https://www.robertsungenis.org/2018/01/review-of-controversy-of-zion-by.html?m=1

    However, I predict you will continue to turn your nose up and instead go for the low-hanging fruit of psychologizing your interlocutors.

  360. Skeptikal 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    “This reflects the fact that people are socialising much more than they ever did during Covid-19, when no one seemed to get any other illness that was contagious.”

    Well, yeah . . .that is the point of having an *有效的* vaccine in the first place. People seem to have forgotten the purpose of an actual vaccine: to prevent infection/illness; kill the virus; prevent transmission. Socializing is what life is *应该* to be like when people have been jabbed with a real vaccine. You make it sound like such behavior is the culprit in virus transmission. The culprit is really the defective “vaccine.”

    Obviously it is an admission that the “vaccines” to not kill the virus—if they did there would be nothing to transmit.

    “A Covid-19 strain that was twice as infectious but non-lethal would end the disease as a concern of anyone. It would swiftly out-compete the current pandemic. ”

    But in most cases the current virus is nonlethal. The best course therefore is to let the virus run its course mutating at will until it peters out, as do all viruses eventually, and treat those who fall ill with the numerous treatments now described in treatment protocols, to prevent hospitalization and death.

  361. Skeptikal 说:
    @utu

    Sycophantic toady alert!

    “Will no one rid me of these dissenting commenters?!”

  362. This whole back and forth seems to confirm that while various parties may have engaged in conspiratorial activity around the Covid Crisis, the entire phenomenon is too big to fit into any uniform conspiracy box. The seem to be 2 primary conspiracy boxes which attract attention here, with perhaps some derivative offshoots. One is the anti-China, anti-Iran conspiracy box. The other is the anti-Trump conspiracy box. Although there are select facts which can be used to one and the other, the 2 together do not fit.

    Ron Unz has done here an interesting useful job of summarizing arguments for the anti-China, anti-Iran conspiracy box. If what Unz hypothesizes turns out to be true then this would point to a conspiracy made by Sterling Hayden and General Jack D. Ripper. It wouldn’t make much sense to say that the Rothschilds of London were out to strike at China or Iran this way. Most of the major business representatives such as Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg have generally favored business relations with China. Netanyahu’s defeat in Israel corresponds to the fact that many political forces on the international scene have turned against the Likudniks. Pushing Trump out of office was actually an important precedent for Netanyahu losing the Prime Minister slot. Although it is possible that some neocons linked with the military may have schemed to bring down China and Iran with a bio-attack, it seems clear that such people are not controlling the main agenda right now.

    On the other hand it’s obvious that Democrats and whole host of other officials around the world, including people in China and Iran, sought to use the Covid Crisis as a basis for tearing Trump down. If CV-19 had first started in northern Mexico and then spread across the border to the US then it would make a lot of sense to hypothesize that maybe the whole thing was a bio-attack planned by China and Iran to take down Trump. Trump had been playing up to hard-liners over China and Iran so it would have made sense for the leaders in these countries to want him out. I’m pretty sure that tradcon sites like RedState have occasionally featured editorials which suggest this as the cause of Covid. The problem is that such a conspiracy scenario makes no sense when the disease first seems to break out in China and Iran.

    If one looks at the way that Netanyahu went to work on assassinating Iranian scientists then it could seem easy to believe that maybe Covid was just the outcome of a Mossad plot to ruin Iran. But other developments elsewhere show that this has not been made to work for Netanyahu’s agenda. Hence why Netanyahu lost the Prime Minister slot. Most of the really vulgar political uses made of CV-19 read as opportunistic rather that conspiratorial. It’s obvious that Nancy Pelosi, Andrew Cuomo, Bill DeBlasio et al all did the most they could to first accuse Trump of racism for wanting to close the borders and then blamed his for letting the virus in. That was hypocritical in the extreme, but nothing suggests that it was more than opportunism.

    The latest wave of pot-shots against China reads more like damage control rather than as a well-crafted conspiracy. There certainly doesn’t seem to be much desire for disinvesting from China, so it’s not really likely this was a well-played conspiracy against China. But the way that it started out would resemble a conspiracy against China more than a conspiracy against Trump. So the main conclusion is that no single agenda has really been behind everything here.

    • 回复: @Morton's toes
  363. Dumbo 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I’m personally not so worried about Covid itself, although I guess some might be. I was and am more annoyed by the global changes and the increase of control that will likely not be rolled back. Also booster shoots every six months or every time you want to travel is not something I’m looking forward to.

    Look, as far as I’m concerned, Covid is just a cover or an excuse for other things they want. Is it natural from some bat? Is it man-made in a lab? Or is it all a hoax? It doesn’t really matter, Big Tech and Big Gov increased their control, Big Pharma made big bucks, some people lied and others died, “Never let a crisis go to waste” is how they think.

    And as for vaccines… We will see… The polio vaccine, that arguably “saved millions of lives”, also contaminated millions by mistake with a simian virus SV-40, resulting in many people getting cancer 20 years later.

    http://www.sv40.org/

  364. Dumbo 说:
    @Ron Unz

    But let’s suppose that that’s correct and they’re horrifically dangerous by vaccine standards, killing 6,000/200 million people = 0.003%. That’s still more than two orders of magnitude better than Covid itself, which has a 0.5+% fatality rate.

    Perhaps. But Covid kills mostly people older than 70-80, while the (supposed) victims of the vaccine have been much younger.

    Also, many people died from Covid even after the two shots, so I’m not sure if that enters into the “Covid” count, or the “vaccine” count. And we don’t know the long-term effects.

    Is it possible as you seem to insinuate that the anti-vaxx conspiracy theories are a part of Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration?

    This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard, but coming from Utu, it doesn’t surprise me.

    Look, millions of people, not just fringe “anti-vaxxers”, are suspicious of the mRNA vaccines and of the whole Covid thing, for pretty obvious reasons. Keeping insisting everywhere that they are “100% safe” makes it even more suspicious, it’s like putting a “Come in, It’s Safe” sign in white van next to a school.

    If you can’t understand why so many people are suspicious or concerned about what has been happening since 2019, then there’s probably something wrong with you, or you’re on the Big Pharma payroll.

    “If I have to explain, you wouldn’t understand.”

    • 回复: @Kali
    , @Wizard of Oz
  365. Fr. John 说:

    Never forget. When all is said and done, Unz…. is a Jew.

    “The existence of the Zionist regime is based upon the belief that they have to destroy the belief in God throughout the world. Another one of their goals is to destroy the other peoples both physically and economically. Every believer throughout the world should fight Zionism. Whoever cooperates with Zionism in any way is, in fact, opposing his own religion. Whoever believes in Islam and wants to support the Zionist regime in any way, rather than be hostile to it is, in fact, casting doubt upon the sincerity of his belief…. We have a great problem. By fabricating lies about the Holocaust global Zionism has succeeded in distorting historical truth in its favor…
    – Rabbi Moshe Aryeh Friedman [ Austria]

    “如果我儿子不想要战争,那就没有了”。 Gutle Schnaper Rothschild,Mayer Amschel Rothschild 的妻子,在她临终前,1849 年。

  366. @Mehen

    However, I predict you will continue to turn your nose up and instead go for the low-hanging fruit of psychologizing your interlocutors.

    I’ll read the 40 pages, mainly because I appreciate the effort to offer it.

    I also agree that analysing the interlocutors is low-hanging fruit, but I believe that I don’t do so until I’ve given sufficient reason for rejecting the theories they present.

    Once I find that they can no longer continue what I perceive as rational discussion, I move onto analysing what is obstructing them.

    There would be no material to work with if they only presented impersonal reasons.

    I’ll report back to you once done. Maybe I’ll even write about it. I have been considering writing a series of “love letters” to the various political personality archetypes I encounter. Experience has taught me that all change begins internally, so it would be the closest thing I could sincerely offer as 基本上 有帮助的。

    • 回复: @Morton's toes
    , @Kali
  367. Another element of the vaccine promotion are the rabid attacks on proven treatments for COVID. From my blog:

    Vaccine or Ivermectin

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    Ivermectin is a cheap FDA approved drug that has been used for decades. Dozens of studies have proven it a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19. COVID vaccines are not approved by the FDA and side effects are worrisome, but is encouraged by the FDA for “emergency use” since their is no FDA approved treatment. If the FDA admits that ivermectin is effective, then the experimental COVID vaccines will instantly disappear from the market! A single ivermectin tablet taken weekly prevents COVID. If everyone began taking it COVID-19 would disappear in a month.

    As a result, the FDA warns that taking life saving ivermectin for COVID is unsafe

    “Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19” https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

    which as experts on a recent Joe Rogan broadcast explain is absurd. (Youtube quickly deleted it. Watch highlights here on Bitchute.)


    视频链接
    The FDA states that is hasn’t reviewed data or begun trials to evaluate the value of ivermectin in treating COVID, but is sure that it’s not safe. “The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; however, some initial research is underway. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too.”

    Meanwhile, the FDA says everyone must get COVID vaccines that the FDA has not approved and have not been proven safe, although the FDA does say ivermectin is safe for treating a dozen diseases, just not COVID.

  368. @Dumbo

    我同意。

    I do not like how the reaction to Covid has changed the political economy of the world.

    I dislike even more how it has affected the culture of the places I frequent; and I am close to hating what it has done to the type of anxious, need to be in control, but fundamentally generous people, who have transformed into full lock-in germaphobes, despite being in extremely low risk groups.

    May the experience teach them to step outside of themselves to avoid literally imprisoning themselves.

  369. @Dumbo

    I often hear people exclaim they got the vaccine and feel fine. But then they could be exposed to high levels of radiation or lead and feel fine for years, until…

  370. Herald 说:
    @the grand wazoo

    The Martin video blows the lid off the Covid scam. Martin, perhaps not always convincingly, tends to the view that “they” are doing it for the money and yes many of those down the chain will be doing just that. However high level globalists don’t need the money and are being driven by something other than financial greed.

    For me it’s almost certainly depopulation that the real monied want and the heavily massaged figure of five hundred thousand deaths is just a pinprick in this savage throw of the eugenicist dice.

    We know that by itself Covid-19 can’t bring about the desired carnage and likely, well almost certainly, the real bioweapons are the “vaccines”, that they have been working on for years, as Martin tells us. Over the next year or so the vaccines will probably be causing untold havoc amongst those who have unwisely rolled up their sleeves, after having put their trust in Fauci and his globalist friends.

    As for China, well it’s hard not to go along with Ron Unz here and I would suggest that the Chinese were being set up, from the very moment that the Wuhan Institute naively undertook to do work for Fauci. The security services would also have been heavily involved in a plot of this magnitude and the Wuhan World Military Games, in the fall of 2019, were an opportunity that was just too good to let pass by.

    • 同意: Kali
    • 回复: @annamaria
    , @the grand wazoo
  371. Let us recall “Gulf War Illnesses”. Tens of thousands of veterans were forcibly injected with a new anthrax vaccine that had not been fully tested. The problems caused by this are disputed and of course downplayed by the government and Wiki, but does state:

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    Anthrax vaccine
    Iraq had loaded anthrax, botulinum toxin, and aflatoxin into missiles and artillery shells in preparing for the Gulf War and these munitions were deployed to four locations in Iraq.[48] During Operation Desert Storm, 41% of U.S. combat soldiers and 75% of UK combat soldiers were vaccinated against anthrax.[18](p73) Reactions included local skin irritation, some lasting for weeks or months.[49] While the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the vaccine, it never went through large-scale clinical trials.[50]

    While recent studies have demonstrated the vaccine is highly reactogenic,[51] and causes motor neuron death in mice,[52] there is no clear evidence or epidemiological studies on Gulf War veterans linking the vaccine to Gulf War illness. Combining this with the lack of symptoms from current deployments of individuals who have received the vaccine led the Committee on Gulf War Veterans’ Illnesses to conclude that the vaccine is not a likely cause of Gulf War illness for most ill veterans.[9] However, the committee report does point out that veterans who received a larger number of various vaccines in advance of deployment have shown higher rates of persistent symptoms since the war.[53][9],

  372. Si1ver1ock 说:

    I don’t like the way patents are involved in any of these things, vaccines or viruses . Bringing the profit motive into this area of public health makes me squeamish.

    https://tv.gab.com/channel/realalexjones/view/top-equities-investor-there-is-no-60ee0fb8032e3093a342d284

  373. utu 说:
    @skrik

    Furin cleavage sites naturally occur in coronaviruses (January 2021)
    YiranWu SuwenZhao
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165

    Furin cleavage sites occurred independently for multiple times in the evolution of the coronavirus family, supporting the natural occurring hypothesis of SARS-CoV-2.

    There is no evidence of SARS-CoV-2 laboratory origin: Response to Segreto and Deigin (May 2021)
    亚历山大·泰什科夫斯基,亚历山大·Y·潘钦
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.202000325

    “Therefore, there is no evidence that the 12-nucleotide fragment of the SARS-CoV-2 furin cleavage site was introduced artificially and did not, instead, emerge in nature.”

    多个冠状病毒尖峰中自然发生的插入缺失(20 年 XNUMX 月)
    Robert F. Garry and William R. Gallaher

    严重急性呼吸综合征冠状病毒 2 (SARS-CoV-2) 非自然起源理论的支持者断言,spike 基因中的 12 个核苷酸插入物导致在穗中获得弗林蛋白酶切割位点,可能是由实验室操作(Relman,2020;Segreto 和 Deigin,2020;Seyran 等人,2020;Sirotkin 和 Sirotkin,2020)。 在这里,我们收集的证据表明,刺突前体的 S1/S2 和 S2' 蛋白酶切割位点的插入/缺失 (indel) 事件是冠状病毒进化的常见自然特征。 我们还发现了迄今为止未描述的多种冠状病毒尖峰的 S1/S2 和 S2' 切割位点的相似性,这为反对 SARS-CoV-2 的实验室来源提供了进一步的证据。

    Spike protein mutations in novel SARS-CoV-2 ‘variants of concern’ commonly occur in or near indels (Jan 20)
    Robert F. Garry, Kristian G. Andersen…

    Hence, analyses suggesting that the evolutionary origins of the RmYN02 S1/S2 cleavage site can be revealed by a simple nucleotide alignment (Segreto and Deigin, 2020) are overly simplistic.

    The Sarbecovirus origin of SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site
    https://virological.org/t/the-sarbecovirus-origin-of-sars-cov-2-s-furin-cleavage-site/536

    • 回复: @skrik
  374. @utu

    we do not know what is out there, what is the pool of coronaviruses.

    This seems to be a different kind of argument from the one you used before which seemed to imply there is no point in knowing what is out there, since a lot could happen in evolution, so even if there is nothing out there, a lot that is not out there could still happen.

  375. @Patrick McNally

    That is a great take P. McNally.

    Who do you work for? : )

  376. Ron you are right to raise the very odd attack on Iran early on. Other than that I am really surprised at how many things you get wrong or seem oblivious to.

    You raise Kadlec’s Crimson Contagion simulation exercise. I can’t tell if you think Kadlec is therefore an arsonist / one who has foreknowledge – or if you are sincere in your statement “… we must commend him for his considerable prescience…”. You do not come across as sarcastic here. If you are credulous, then perhaps that explains why you find no fault with Bill Gates and his Event 201, held in the fall of 2019 simulating a global corona virus pandemic. Did you know that Gates initially lied about the exercise and said some BS like “we had no idea this could happen, we were unprepared…”

    Have you looked at who joined this “exercise”? Members of the Team come from Johns Hopkins, Columbia University, the World Economic Forum – of Klaus Schwab fame, the UN, the Chinese Center for Disease Control, the US Center for Disease Control,
    Companies represented include Marriott, UPS and oh by the way, Johnson and Johnson.
    At least one member of the team has quite the background with the CIA & the NSA (Avril Hines https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/players/haines.html). I’m quite sure Fauci had his minions present too.

    Further, you repeatedly talk about the “strong public health measures implemented” as if they were necessary, justified and effective. This is stunning. The measures were unjustified, unnecessary and far more harmful than helpful.

    Where do you note the massive censorship campaign (which Bill Gates publicly supports) and call attention to it? Where is your rejoinder that those who are censored are the ones we should listen to?

    You cast aspersions on those who question germ theory. How about you turn your investigations to Terrain Theory versus Germ Theory and Exosome Theory versus Virus Theory?

    You claim that the virus is dangerous and the “vaccines” are safe. Jesus Ron, what the fuck?

    [更多]

    Do you know about VAERS? Do you know that it has recorded more vaccine deaths from Covid in a 6 month period than all the deaths ever reported in VAERS combined? Do you know that a CDC sponsored Harvard study found in 2013 that less than 1% of vaccine injuries or deaths get recorded?

    Do you know that the Euro equivalent of VAERS (EudraVigilance) has recorded 20,000 deaths and close to 2,000,000 million injuries – half of which are serious? I think you don’t know this.

    As one commenter pointed out, your ZOG / CDC dialectic seems to blind you to other more likely scenarios. How about if global elites fucking hate their populations? Just because Putin says there’s no way the leadership of multiple countries conspired together, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen Ron.

    Have you overlooked how closely the Gates Foundation, the WHO, EcoHealth Alliance, the NIH & NIAID etc, etc., work together?

    Have you seen how Gates funds universities (such as the Imperial College), media (such as NPR and the Guardian), NGOs (such as the WHO), etc. etc..

    What the fuck is wrong with you Ron? For someone who is able to see through the machinations of the Talmudic devils who run much of the world, why can’t you see all of this blatantly obvious collusion around Covid and the “vaccines”?

    Finally Ron – before you destroy all of your hard-earned credibility – stop writing about this until you do some actual investigation into the elements I bring forward here and those brought forward by so many commenters. Pull your head all the way out of your ass on this one Ron.

    I’ll give you one thing to watch right now that should disabuse you of the most idiocies in one fell swoop. Here is Dr. David Martin who uses the trail of patents around all things SARS, going back to the early 2000’s. This is full proof of massive RICO conspiracy. Then come back here and share with us your new and far greater understanding of the Covid fuckery.

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/a-manufactured-illusion-dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich-9-7-21_hPChWe1no7nxGDM.html

    • 谢谢: Skeptikal, Kali
    • 哈哈: Mehen
    • 回复: @MarkU
    , @Mehen
    , @Commentator Mike
  377. MarkU 说:
    @utu

    I decided to fact check the ‘fact check’ site for myself and it appears that it is basically nothing but a gatekeeper site for official narratives. Apparently…

    1) 伊维菌素、HCL 和维生素 D 已被证明无效。
    2)刺突蛋白是完全无害的。
    3)实验室释放理论没有可信的证据。

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/baseless-conspiracy-theories-claim-new-coronavirus-was-bioengineered/

    I have given a link to the latter claim because if that website is to be trusted then Ron Unz may as well stop writing on the subject and should seriously consider retracting this and his previous related articles. Personally I wouldn’t trust that website as far as I could chuck the server but perhaps Ron Unz has a different view, he appears happy enough to accept its authority when it suits him to do so.

  378. @Ron Unz

    Yes, obfuscation by releasing, or encouraging the release of, a huge amount of ‘chaff’ to distract attention has to be a tactic in the toolbox of a well-oiled social engineering machine.

    Those behind-the-scene people with an agenda, e.g. the Deep State Neocons, will continue to do what they always do to engineer ‘reality’ (Karl Rove’s style) in the minds of the masses. Most disturbing though is that the masses in America, including many intelligent people, seem to, time and time again, make it easy for those people to implant whatever ‘reality’ they want to implant in our collective brain. We seem to be incapable of even considering alternate narratives, however reasonable, let alone sifting through the chaffs for the wheat.

    I care enough about this country to be very disturbed. Insanity is the inability to see reality as it truly is. By that definition, we are going collectively insane but are incapable of noticing it.

    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  379. @MLK

    Excellent comment. This is the side of Ron that blows my mind.
    I’d have hit Agree or Thanks but I comment too infrequently to have that privilege.

  380. Iris 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Ye, just like the EU tried to economically disable the UK by secretly funding a British Union of Chimneysweeps. Really going for the jugular.

    Go easy on sarcasm, since you are so ignorant; it only attracts more attention on your idiocies.

    Using the military technology available today, it would have been easy for any ill-intentioned party to spread crop and cattle bio-agents in China without being noticed.

    Military micro-drones such as the Black Hornet Nano unmanned aerial vehicle have only a size of 4X1 inches (10X2.5 cm), weigh 18 grams and fit in one hand. They are so extremely tiny as to be easily smuggled inside a target country. They have an autonomy of 25 minutes and can be flown by one single person.

    Fitted with night vision capability, they can be flown at night to spread viruses or bacteria. I am not sure this would be even necessary since, unless one gets close, they will probably pass for birds.

    American, British and Dutch special forces have been using them in Syria, where some prototypes were fetched by the Syrian national forces. Possibly, other bio-catastrophes are being engineered there as well by the “Human-Rights worshipping” imperialists.

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
    , @d dan
  381. @RudyM

    阿门·鲁迪 M. 你比我更有外交手腕。

    美国真理报系列告诉我们的一件事是,虽然罗恩很出色,但他的吸收速度真的很慢。 他给了我们很多这样的例子。

    RON – READ THIS AND TAKE IT TO HEART.

  382. @Triteleia Laxa

    I also agree that analysing the interlocutors is low-hanging fruit, but I believe that I don’t do so until I’ve given sufficient reason for rejecting the theories they present.

    Like many of the commenters here I actually am in possession of a psychiatric diagnosis. Performed by a board certified M.D. psychiatrist. He wrote it down mid way through my third 50 minute hour.
    I would tell the world no problem if it seemed relevant. Also since it took him 125 minutes to decide I presume if anybody else were to write down here what it happened to be from reading my comments it would be a lucky guess.

    Comments regarding a commenter are 99.99% noise. If they are making a stupid or a crazy comment it is more than sufficient to point out the stupidity or the craziness in their point if you are capable of doing so!

    • 回复: @Triteleia Laxa
  383. @Iris

    Using the military technology available today, it would have been easy for any ill-intentioned party to spread crop and cattle bio-agents in China without being noticed.

    Very easy, but pointless, with extreme consequences if caught, and negligible gain, no matter how successful.

    It is so easy to do this that cannabis producers across North America regularly pull nasty tricks against each other using drones, according to a major player I met in the industry.

    Given the complete lack of motive for US government involvement, and given the ease with which highly-motivated Chinese farmers could disrupt their competition, those farmers are much more likely culprits, if anything even happened at all.

  384. Anonymous[437]• 免责声明 说:

    One of the important factors here is the intensity of brainwashing to coerce consent for this medical experiment.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/an-army-of-big-biotech-companies-is-using-psych-tactics-to-create-vaccine-demand

    No doubt part is it is standard commercial demand induction, “coke for breakfast” scaled up by two orders of magnitude. But part of it is probably intended to divert intention from the criminal origins of this banned biological weapon. CIA mad scientists want to fixate discourse on the medical response and avoid investigation and prosecution of their crime against humanity.

  385. @Morton's toes

    I appreciate you for sharing, but if you go back and read the comment which you are replying to, you should find that it already answers your reply.

    I will also emphasise that I am analyzing, not diagnosing, their comments.

    Diagnoses can be useful, especially if medication will be involved, but they are blunt tools. I find that descriptions of the actual person need to be much more personalised to be accurate.

    A lot of people will be diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder, for example, but often they have a lot things to think through and, taking advantage of modern technology, are merely living with unusual priorities. Their unhappiness can come more from them judging themselves for their choices, and not understanding those choices, than from the consequences of their lifestyle.

    • 巨魔: Kali
    • 回复: @Skeptikal
  386. @Wizard of Oz

    用自己的大脑解决有趣的问题,做一些对人类有用的事情就足够了。 想想最高法院的法官。 获得报酬并有权实施自己的想法必须使其几乎不可抗拒。

    大多数人很难掌握。

    相反……支付的重量,使任何“有用”的东西更频繁地只是机会主义地有用。 最高法院法官有一堆卡片可供参考:自我、薪酬、后代的代际声望、朋友、共同投资者、其他。 南希佩洛西或克里斯汀拉加德花更多的时间梳理他们的脾气暴躁的驴,然后思考“有用的”。 或者看起来它是你不恰当的doxing?

    • 回复: @Wizard of Oz
    , @PetrOldSack
  387. @Ron Unz

    … I had a few very slight dealings with Steve Kirsch about twenty ago, and although he’d been quite successful in his tech business, he struck me as an extreme egomaniac and something of a nut. Frankly, I’d regard him as having negative-credibility, so if he supports something, it’s a little more likely to be nonsense.

    There is more evidence about the vaccines than probabilities based on personalities.  Dr. Meryl NassDr. Peter McCullough are compelling sources of information on the vaccines and they make the same points Kirsch does.  (Dr. Nass 赞同 the video an abridgement of which I linked to in post #243.)

    [更多]

    Somewhere in another video – I don’t have a reference handy – Dr. MCCullough calls Kirsch “flamboyant,” which sort of meshes with your observation of 20 years ago, but he was smiling when he said it.

    Personally I find all four people mentioned in this and my early posts (or five counting Brett Weinstein, who is more of a popularizer) very credible. I hope you won’t let Kirsch’s apparent obnoxious personality keep you from investigating the safety of these particular vaccines, especially among the young, and the “elite’s” massive propaganda effort behind them.

    • 巨魔: Realist
    • 回复: @Herald
  388. Skeptikal 说:
    @truthdigger

    ” Most disturbing though is that the masses in America, including many intelligent people, seem to, time and time again, make it easy for those people to implant whatever ‘reality’ they want to implant in our collective brain. ”

    I think this is a result of watching TV.

    Also the “intelligent” and “intellectual” get their news and views—especially the parameters of what is “acceptable”—from the NYT and NPR. And both of those are controlled.

    [更多]

    Think WMD. Think Russiagate. Think 9/11. . . . . [the list is long] Think covid-19.

    When the wheels come off (plausibility no longer deniable) these narratives these outlets can be relied upon to cover for the liars (“At the time everyone thought Saddam had WMD”—uh, no).

    Other than that if the wheels don’t come off (plausibility still deniable) they can be relied on to maintain the fictions via constant repetition by constantly restating lies as established fact to back up other ostensibly unrelated narratives lies (“if a few jihadis armed with box cutters could bring down two sky scrapers, then X . . .”).

    As for “collectively insane” it’s called mass hysteria, and it is of course fueled by an endless stream of lies and half-lies, otherwise known as propaganda. When it comes to the covid-19 op and the resulting hysteria about a “lethal novelvirus setting out to kill us and mutate itself visciously,” it is seems as though our host, Mr. Unz, has not yet been able to rip aside the veil. Not quite as blinded as the blogger known as The Saker, but close.

  389. @Mehen

    It is not what I expected. I would never have imagined that it would call Arius Jewish, the French Revolution a Jewish plot and the Jew’s existence in Israel, a literal summoning of the anti-Christ.

    It also claims that Jews are the pawns of Satan, but, in giving them sole agency over the world, it actually makes them out to be God, which is equally extravagant and silly.

    I especially find it amusing the way in which it cowardly backs down from this implied thesis, by arguing that Jews only wield that omnipotence, because of the absence of the Catholic Church.

    This seems a motivated and jammed-in answer, and completely unconvincing, even within the text’s internal logic.

    I don’t like demonisation of the “other” ever; even demons deserve love and compassion. It also harms the person doing the demonizing in insidious ways, and places them into darkness equally as impenetrable as the imagination of the person doing the othering.

    I am, therefore, exceptionally uninclined to like this book.

    [更多]

    Finally, to engage with people on this book, considering that it deals with religious, occasionally spiritual matters, you might want to find out where they stand on these. I am not religious and my spiritual beliefs are my own, and entirely from first-hand experience.

    Fundamentally, this means that I can only find religious arguments as persuasive as to the extent with which they interact with my own experiences; which I also don’t see any point in explaining at length.

    Suffice to say, no one ever really dies, everyone deserves, and will one day, receive love and light or even become it. The only darkness is in ignorance. If some phenomena like Satan exists, then he could do with a hug and some understanding, to help him release himself from his own prison; as he would not have been placed there by God or the universe; because everyone imprisons themselves and can walk out as soon as they, in their heart, feel they are worthy.

    Everyone is worthy, they just can’t see it, but I can, which is nice for me. Now people will consider me crazy…

    • 回复: @Mehen
    , @Mehen
  390. Skeptikal 说:
    @MLK

    “The Covid in all its uncertainty was and remains a perfect tool for concentrating minds and ensuring compliance.”

    Yes, Gleichschaltung 2.0, International edition.

    Well done, MLK.

  391. @Ron Unz

    Conspiracies are propagating claims that the virus was developed by the United States/CIA for use as a bioweapon. Rumors are also being widely circulated in Russia and Iran that the coronavirus is a U.S.-made bioweapon. Across the Arab world, disinformation campaigns are peddling the idea that the pandemic is the product of a Jewish or Jewish-American conspiracy to decimate the world population. In Iraq, for example, conspiracy theorists are pushing the narrative that a rich Jewish family, the Rothschilds, is behind the global outbreak.

    • 回复: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  392. Mike Tre 说:
    @Anonymous

    20,000 more deaths from OD in 2020 than in 2019:

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/overdose-deaths-record-pandemic/2021/07/14/id/1028609/

    There were also thousands more negroes killed during the Summer of George.

    No data on increased suicides that I have found as of yet.

  393. d dan 说:
    @Iris

    “Using the military technology available today, it would have been easy for any ill-intentioned party to spread crop and cattle bio-agents in China without being noticed.”

    Thanks Iris for your excellent comments. Just a quick reminder to the readers of how 2018 Africa swine fever happened in China.

    Africa swine fever was first discovered in 1921 in Kenya. Before 2018, there wasn’t a SINGLE case in China. On Aug 3, 2018, the first case in China was detected in the Northeast province of Liaoning. In about 2 months, it spread to 8 provinces, and by November 2018, to 20 provinces. Chinese government was very diligent and slaughtered millions of swine to contain the fever. But it continued to spread, and by December 2018, it spread to ALL 22 provinces in the entire country (China has 23 provinces including Taiwan).

    The speed and scope in which the Africa swine fever had spread was just amazing, to say the least. China is a continental-size country. The weather, conditions, customs and techniques of farming are so vastly different in many regions, this event was very unique in history.

    The strange things didn’t stop here. In Sept 2018, local authorities in China caught some Chinese farmers employing anti-drone radio jamming devices because they interfered with the aviation. The farmers admitted the reason for doing so was because they spotted mini-drones spraying strange chemical into their pig farms. Around late October, I started noticing debates in Internet, when there were commenters taunting that Chinese wouldn’t have their favorite pork dishes for the holiday seasons. At the same time, Western media started (and still doing so today) reporting that the Africa swine fever was spread by Chinese gangsters or competitor farmers. This is so unbelievable because all gangsters in China are local, and there are simply no groups in China with the capability, motivation, resources and audacity to do so in a country of China size.

    2018 also happened to be in the heat of Trump initiated trade war against China. It started with Trump imposing tariff in early 2018 on solar panel, steel, etc. In March, Trump imposed tariffs on US\$50–60 billion worth of Chinese goods. In April, China retaliated. In May, China started to cancel their order of US farm products. Around that time, we heard that China will lose the trade war not only because US imports so much more from China, but also because China could NOT stop buying US farm products. The following months continued to see the escalation.

    Whoever spread the swine fever in 2018 obviously didn’t see any repercussion of their actions. Then came the Covid-19 in Wuhan in 2019.

    OK, may be these were all just coincidences. The timing was so perfect that some dumb commenters actually believe it “proves” that was NOT done by US – because US will not choose such obvious timing.

    谈论哑巴和哑巴。

    • 同意: acementhead
    • 谢谢: Kali, Iris
  394. MarkU 说:
    @I'm Goygeous

    You cast aspersions on those who question germ theory. How about you turn your investigations to Terrain Theory versus Germ Theory and Exosome Theory versus Virus Theory?

    I will continue to put the anti-germ-theory-of-disease people into the same category as the flat earthers until I hear a reasonable alternative explanation for contagiousness and immunity and what ‘really’ happened to smallpox etc.

    • 同意: Triteleia Laxa
    • 回复: @Kali
  395. @d dan

    Pigs. Pigs. Pigs. Well, as you say, below, this place gets…

    dumb and dumber.

    Henchman: Dr Evil, how will we take down the Chinese economy?

    Dr Evil: We will lower their ability to breed pigs!

    Henchman: What is the risk of this going wrong?

    Dr Evil: If we are exposed, the whole world will turn against us.

    Henchman: But is the Chinese economy that dependent on pigs?

    Dr Evil: No, but our plot will serve as excellent foreshadowing, tipping off all suspicious people for future equally absurd plans, and we will even boast about it on the internet.

    Henchman: Are we real, or are we totally unrealistic cartoon bad guys on a Saturday morning childrens’ show?

    • 巨魔: Skeptikal
    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  396. Mehen 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Actually, Triteleia, I am roughly in agreement with many of your “””metaphysical””” notions myself.

    But that’s beside the point. You may have missed the fact the reviewer is a Catholic theologian. I merely offered his review because it was the best condensation of the themes of that tome I could find. I certainly didn’t mean to endorse the review. I merely wanted you to SEE that there is serious scholarship undergirding some of the theories here at UR. As far as I know, the author Douglas Reed was not particularly religious and was merely an investigative journalist who eventually came to some uncomfortable conclusions (I can relate).

    I’m disappointed you did exactly what I predicted you would do: shield your eyes from the voluminous data and instead retreat into psycho-philosophical speculations with the aim of making the “demons” go away (or at least making the demons become “humanized”)

    By the way, I can usually tell when the female side of the purported duo operating your account is writing 😉

  397. Mehen 说:
    @I'm Goygeous

    Jesus Ron, what the fuck?

    LOL. See my comment #266 for possible clarification.

    Short answer: it is beginning to seem apparent that our host is not quite the dispassionate objective observer we have hailed him for. A little voice in my head is whispering he just might have his thumb on the scale. Capische?

    (It’s possible I am insane, of course)

    • 回复: @Mehen
  398. Ron Unz 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Pigs. Pigs. Pigs. Well, as you say, below, this place gets…dumb and dumber.

    Well, the sudden, mysterious destruction of 40% of China’s primary meat source—one-quarter of all the world’s pigs—might seem like a pretty big deal to some people. And it generated a big article in the “纽约时报”, which is how I found out about it:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/business/china-pigs-african-swine-fever.html

    It also seems to very closely match the biowarfare theories of Robert Kadlec, as seen from the extensive quotes from his late 1990s writings in my article. Perhaps coincidentally, Kadlec had taken a senior position in the Trump Administration two years earlier…

  399. @Ron Unz

    When England went through Foot & Mouth disease, the main, yet still negligible effect on the economy, was actually on tourism.

    The poor farmers also suffered tremendously, they even had lots of odd stories “explaining” the event and their trauma, but, as a weapon of economic warfare, it would have been ridiculous. There was no effect on GDP, especially long-term.

    It was certainly newsworthy, and reported globally, constantly, but, for still zero economic effect.

    Why would the US take the risk of alienating the entire world’s opinion for zero economic effect?

    Playing the game of noticing that the federal bureaucracy is huge and so you can draw tenuous “coincidences” from people’s overly “publish or perish” careers is mired in confirmation and selection bias.

    An American Pravda: extreme confirmation bias. It is “hard facts”, listed without context and taken to mean far more than they do; while the very basics are ignored.

    Again, China is a big international trader. Pigs are a tiny part of their economy. This was irrelevant to China as a whole; just a sad storyline. Why would the US risk everything for that?

  400. @Ron Unz

    Kadlec also obviously wasn’t in on your purported scheme by the US to seed the least likely possible bio-warfare weapon, at the least likely possible time, under the least likely possible cover, into China; or maybe he was; considering he came up with the worst possible response.

    From January through March 2020, Kadlec and his team focused on evacuating U.S. nationals from cruise ships and countries hard-hit by the pandemic; Kadlec’s defenders said that this focus was necessary to protect Americans, while detractors criticized him for missing opportunities to prepare for pandemic COVID-19 in the United States.

    Utterly implausible.

    • 回复: @utu
  401. zoomy 说:
    @Ron Unz

    I don’t know a thing about patents either, but that doesn’t stop me from seeing that there are clear evidences various US organisations and scientists have been tinkering with Coronavirus for decades, and they surely stand out as prime suspects behind the current scourge . Seems to me, even meticulous investigators of Covid-19 can still swallow whole elephants while studiously straining at gnats !

    • 回复: @Ron Unz
  402. Mehen 说:
    @Mehen

    恩兹先生

    Given your sharp stance towards the deplorables here who traffic in what you call “nonsense”, I suggest it might be more efficient (and funny) for your mods to simply replace those deplorables’ screeds with Mr. Goygeous’s pithy:

    “Jesus Ron, what the fuck?”

    Just imagine a comment thread peppered with “Jesus Ron, what the fuck?” among the more substantial contributions.

    I for one would laugh.

    (I’m kidding. Please don’t do that)

    更严重的是:

    Hey Deplorables, I don’t think Ron is really censoring (not me, anyway)

    He trashes the true crazies, perhaps.

    He’s just trying to tell y’all to up your game.

    Don’t slouch or slack.

    • 哈哈: Kali, I'm Goygeous
  403. Ron Unz 说:
    @zoomy

    I don’t know a thing about patents either, but that doesn’t stop me from seeing that there are clear evidences various US organisations and scientists have been tinkering with Coronavirus for decades, and they surely stand out as prime suspects behind the current scourge.

    Sure, I certainly agree with you on that, and it’s been the central theme of my articles. But I don’t think the case is helped by adding in all that crackpottery about the vaccines being bioweapons that will kill hundreds of millions with spike-proteins, maybe as part of a diabolical plot by Bill Gates or whomever.

    If you’re seriously interested in the subject, here’s an excellent article we published last year by investigative journalist Whitney Webb:

    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

    • 回复: @zoomy
  404. utu 说:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    “他想出了最糟糕的反应” – He had more bright ideas like \$21 million for studying anti-acid medication (Pepcid) as a cure for covid-19. One person who was pushing for the study was Robert Malone, yes the same Malone of the recent Youtube fame as the “inventor” of mRNA vaccine. He was Alchem’s chief medical officer when it won the Pepcid contract. He claims “he was the first to come up with the idea that Pepcid might be effective against covid-19. Anyway once Alchem was awarded the \$21 million Malone quit or was fired.

    “Malone resigned as Alchem’s chief medical officer the week the company got the testing contract. He complained of a difficult work environment, and has since been critical of Callahan and the project.”

    Study of Pepcid as virus remedy stalls after \$21M
    https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2020/jul/24/study-of-pepcid-as-virus-remedy-stalls-after-21m/

    There is something about Robert Malone that he suffers from premature exits. If he stuck around in 1988 were he worked at that time perhaps indeed he would have become the mRNA inventor. Instead now he has his wife writing letters how he was harassed, abused and robbed of the discovery and denied credit:

    mRNA 疫苗的发现历史(2 年 2021 月 XNUMX 日)
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/history-how-mrna-vaccines-were-discovered-jill-glasspool-malone-phd

    所以,想象一下在过去的一年里,看到其他人在非专业媒体上称赞他的工作是多么令人沮丧。 然后昨天看到这篇文章作为CNN的头条新闻是非常令人沮丧的

    We never were able to capture a single NIH or government grant for this work. This all happened thirty years ago, it is a terrible but old story. One that Robert likes to forget. It is not worth dredging up.

    • 回复: @Mehen
    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
  405. Alfred 说:

    Fauci really has to explain what is going on, but the Biden Administration will NEVER question Fauci nor fire him. He is their key to pretending they care about the people. The novel coronavirus outbreak began in Wuhan, China, in December 2019. Interestingly, Moderna, together with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), sent mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill on December 12, 2019. I had information that Schwab was telling friends that a virus was coming in January 2020.

    Timeline of Covid Proves it was a Deliberate Leak? (Martin Armstrong)

  406. Mehen 说:
    @utu

    Your editorializing about Malone reveals an autistic misunderstanding of interpersonal negotiations or perhaps you’re just a shill.

    In all honesty I can’t tell which.

    迷人。

  407. Mehen 说: